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| 00:06.42 | iluminator101 | rvsjoen: is 2.6.30-2 on the repos |
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| 00:08.03 | nsadmin | iluminator101: use your search powers to stretch to the sky |
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| 00:08.25 | amphi | heh |
| 00:08.25 | iluminator101 | i couldnt find it thats why i asked...lol |
| 00:08.27 | EagleScreen | can I convert from ogg to mp3? |
| 00:08.35 | themill | iluminator101: note that 2.6.30-2 is not the same as 2.6.30.2 |
| 00:08.43 | nsadmin | it's not -2 |
| 00:08.47 | nsadmin | it's .2 |
| 00:08.57 | iluminator101 | lol |
| 00:09.01 | rvsjoen | that was my mistake |
| 00:09.07 | teonanacatl | spdif with passthru runs out of the box. yay. |
| 00:09.36 | themill | since debian doesn't use the submiro version number on the kernel packages, you'll never find that in the archive |
| 00:11.23 | adama_ | EagleScreen: yes |
| 00:11.55 | EagleScreen | any name adama_? |
| 00:12.30 | hedgehoginfog | I have (again) the same problem with this: http://www.udel.edu/topics/udelsecure/xpcomps.html |
| 00:12.33 | jpinx-eeepc | where is the ssh lockout time set and where is the number of attempts at the password set? |
| 00:12.57 | hedgehoginfog | I now have a new backported kernel 2.6.30 with ath9k driver for my atheros wireless card |
| 00:13.23 | hedgehoginfog | Can anybody help me to configure this for debian? |
| 00:13.26 | iluminator101 | linux-image-2.6.30-1-6 is the latest image that i see |
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| 00:13.43 | chovy | hi everyone... |
| 00:13.48 | hedgehoginfog | i still receive No DHCPOFFERS received. |
| 00:13.54 | Cain | abrotman : FYI in my case to have the expert mode in installation ==> kernel /boot/lenny5.0.2/vmlinuz priority=low vga=normal initrd=initrd.gz -- |
| 00:14.02 | chovy | can someone tell me if there is a debian package to install "Net::SSH::Expect" with apt-get? |
| 00:14.13 | abrotman | Cain: never would have guessed that |
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| 00:14.21 | Cain | ^^ |
| 00:14.25 | abrotman | chovy: it'd be like `apt-cache search libperl net ssh` i believe |
| 00:14.51 | adama_ | EagleScreen: sox |
| 00:14.52 | Cain | abrotman : i was 'pushed' to see the cfg files in the iso file... |
| 00:14.53 | abrotman | chovy: sorry .. wrong |
| 00:15.00 | abrotman | chovy: apt-cache search perl ssh net |
| 00:17.07 | chovy | abrotman: i don't think that is the one, I installed it, and my script still doesn't find Net::SSH:Expect |
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| 00:17.59 | hedgehoginfog | Can anyone help with that wireless problem? |
| 00:18.05 | abrotman | chovy: well, if ti's not there, you can use dh-make-perl |
| 00:18.07 | hedgehoginfog | THere's a set of instructions for WinXp |
| 00:18.13 | abrotman | hedgehoginfog: what about it doesn't work or make sense ? |
| 00:18.20 | abrotman | hedgehoginfog: wait .. weren't you in russia ? |
| 00:18.21 | hedgehoginfog | I need to configure it on debian |
| 00:18.24 | nsadmin | libnet-ssh-perl? |
| 00:18.36 | nsadmin | libnet-ssh-expect-perl? |
| 00:18.39 | abrotman | hedgehoginfog: right .. and what part have you used so far ? |
| 00:18.44 | hedgehoginfog | abrotman, I was. I'm at the University of Delaware now. |
| 00:18.59 | abrotman | waves from nearby |
| 00:19.14 | hedgehoginfog | what do you mean doesnt make sense? |
| 00:19.19 | abrotman | hedgehoginfog: did you try the wpa-supplicant stuff ? |
| 00:19.20 | hedgehoginfog | it just works on WinXP |
| 00:19.26 | abrotman | !wpa |
| 00:19.26 | dpkg | wpa is Wi-Fi Protected Access. A WPA supplicant is provided for Debian Lenny, Etch and Squeeze in the 'wpasupplicant' package. Read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz to configure the supplicant as desired (esp. "Troubleshooting" regarding association to hidden SSIDs). Lenny's Debian Installer does not support WPA. http://wiki.debian.org/WPA http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpasupplicant |
| 00:19.27 | nsadmin | hedgehoginfog: usb? |
| 00:19.38 | hedgehoginfog | nsadmin, ? |
| 00:20.20 | abrotman | hedgehoginfog: did the device work before? and it's just a configuration issue ? |
| 00:21.02 | hedgehoginfog | I have a wlan0 interface |
| 00:21.13 | teonanacatl | does anybody know what i need to read the GPU-temperature of my nvidia-card? |
| 00:21.18 | hedgehoginfog | whenever i'm trying to scan i dont have any access points though |
| 00:21.31 | abrotman | hedgehoginfog: which device is it? which chipset ? |
| 00:21.48 | hedgehoginfog | abrotman, Atheros Wireless CArd |
| 00:21.57 | hedgehoginfog | Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) |
| 00:21.58 | teonanacatl | packages.debian.org says NVIDIA graphics cards (with separate sensors-applet-nvidia package) - but there that package doesn't exist separately |
| 00:22.19 | abrotman | hedgehoginfog: so what have you done so far to try to set it up ? |
| 00:22.35 | hedgehoginfog | abrotman, I'm trying to get it worked with network-manager |
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| 00:22.38 | RoBoT-NeW | ciao a tutti! ::mIRC p2p:: |
| 00:22.44 | abrotman | oh awesome |
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| 00:23.02 | abrotman | hedgehoginfog: do similar options exist ? |
| 00:23.16 | hedgehoginfog | I chose authentificcation: Protected EAP (PEAP) |
| 00:23.36 | hedgehoginfog | Security: WPA & WPA2 Enterprise |
| 00:23.48 | hedgehoginfog | it keeps asking me for a certificate |
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| 00:23.58 | abrotman | hedgehoginfog: like the XP instructions says it will ? |
| 00:24.24 | hedgehoginfog | the xp instructions say you will RECEIVE it perhaps |
| 00:24.34 | hedgehoginfog | and that you should accept it in that case |
| 00:24.57 | hedgehoginfog | i'm worried about the fact that I dont can detect the point when i scan |
| 00:25.55 | abrotman | hedgehoginfog: do you see any ? |
| 00:26.10 | abrotman | hedgehoginfog: does the same machine also have windows ? |
| 00:26.16 | hedgehoginfog | no it doesnt |
| 00:26.41 | hedgehoginfog | there is another laptop here with windowze on board and wifi works on it |
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| 00:27.03 | hedgehoginfog | NetworkManager is configured through graphical interfaces, which are available for GNOME and KDE. Your wireless interface should not be referenced within Debian's /etc/network/interfaces file. |
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| 00:29.26 | Serraphyn | Hello, I just installed Apache2 on Debian5 and want to change default from index.html to index.php or as it as an option so I dont' get the silly IT WORKS! page anymore when I have an index.php page there already. Any ideas? |
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| 00:30.12 | abrotman | hedgehoginfog: do you see any APs ? |
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| 00:31.35 | hedgehoginfog | abrotman, you mean physically around me? no, I dont |
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| 00:32.05 | adama_ | Serraphyn: remove the index.html file |
| 00:32.06 | abrotman | no .. i mean that your system picks up .. or does the windows laptop see more than just the udel one |
| 00:32.07 | abrotman | ? |
| 00:32.14 | Serraphyn | adama_ I did already |
| 00:32.40 | abrotman | Serraphyn: you need to alter the DocumentRoot probably |
| 00:33.26 | nsadmin | in some web servers there is a setting for the order of extensions |
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| 00:33.34 | hedgehoginfog | abrotman, no. My laptop doesnt see any access point |
| 00:33.34 | hedgehoginfog | s |
| 00:33.37 | adama_ | Serraphyn: you can also edit the file /etc/apache2/mods-available/dir.conf (I believe) and switch the order (priority) of index.html vs. index.php |
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| 00:34.01 | Serraphyn | okay thanks guys I'llt ry those idea (wonders over to the other screen) |
| 00:34.32 | nsadmin | like, if there's an index.gif, an index.html, an index.tcl and an index.perl, you should be able to set which takes priority over which |
| 00:35.06 | abrotman | hedgehoginfog: do you get any errors in your system logs ? |
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| 00:36.02 | hedgehoginfog | abrotman, no, except for LINK IS NOT READY in dmesg tail |
| 00:36.18 | Serraphyn | thanks, just changing the order worked :) |
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| 00:36.57 | nsadmin | Serraphyn: changing the DocumentRoot would have worked if your index.php were in a different dir |
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| 00:41.21 | abrotman | hedgehoginfog: i wonder if there's a verbose mode |
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| 00:49.19 | jpinx-eeepc | judd: versions OpenLDAP |
| 00:49.19 | judd | jpinx-eeepc: OpenLDAP -- |
| 00:51.04 | abrotman | that's not the name ofthe package |
| 00:51.46 | TbbW | anyone link to info about connecting to a vpn network without setting it as default gw ? |
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| 00:52.49 | abrotman | TbbW: you don't always have control over that |
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| 00:53.22 | nsadmin | TbbW: so you want the ip range in the vpn available but you don't want it to be seen as "the rest of the internet" |
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| 00:55.16 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: yea - I'm casting about for an application that'll lockout a user for n1 minutes after n2 failed password attempts |
| 00:55.37 | nkuttler | TbbW: set the route accordingly, if possible |
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| 00:58.20 | abrotman | jpinx-eeepc: just a temp lock ? |
| 00:58.34 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: like for about an hour or so |
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| 00:59.08 | abrotman | jpinx-eeepc: first hit on google http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/lock-unlock-set-number-of-login-attempts.html |
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| 00:59.31 | intelikey | my 2.6.26-2-686 initramfs image seems to have a broken init all i can get out of it is kernel panics |
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| 01:01.02 | jpinx-eeepc | me doffs his cap to abrotman 's google-fu :) |
| 01:01.28 | abrotman | it wasn't hard |
| 01:01.59 | TbbW | TbbW: yes |
| 01:02.28 | TbbW | err |
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| 01:02.44 | TbbW | nsadmin: yes |
| 01:02.51 | TbbW | finaly got that right... heh |
| 01:02.58 | abrotman | waits for TbbW to start asking himself questions |
| 01:03.23 | TbbW | lol |
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| 01:04.10 | ajavid | good evening |
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| 01:05.41 | zhxk | i see the solar eclipse!!! |
| 01:05.51 | abrotman | zhxk: wrong channel |
| 01:06.06 | yurikoles | how to dwonload all debian docs in ru, uk and en ? |
| 01:06.48 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: thanks - fwiw that app doesn't appear to be in stable, but the functionality I was looking for appears to exist in login - now to test ;) |
| 01:06.56 | abrotman | app ? |
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| 01:07.19 | abrotman | oh .. the pam_tally ? |
| 01:08.40 | jpinx-eeepc | heh - pam_tally is in there by default - silly me |
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| 01:08.52 | jpinx-eeepc | multiple ways of fixing the issue ;) |
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| 01:09.34 | abrotman | jpinx-eeepc: got it all working ? |
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| 01:10.04 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: give me a minute - this is only part of the bigger issue ;) |
| 01:10.11 | abrotman | issue? |
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| 01:11.06 | hedgehoginfog | abrotman, |
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| 01:11.54 | abrotman | hedgehoginfog: yes? |
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| 01:12.40 | hedgehoginfog | i've been trying to solve that wifi problem for almost a week |
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| 01:12.49 | hedgehoginfog | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:13.03 | hedgehoginfog | which would really tough considering that i'm not a geek |
| 01:13.07 | hedgehoginfog | and you know what the problem was |
| 01:13.15 | hedgehoginfog | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:13.33 | [blackbuRn] | anyone knows how to install ati drivers with --buildandinstallpkg or generating debian/lenny package |
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| 01:15.30 | konr | Is there something like a stage3 tarball for debian? I don't want to burn a cd :( |
| 01:15.31 | abrotman | hedgehoginfog: is that all ? |
| 01:15.42 | abrotman | konr: there's debootstrap |
| 01:15.53 | ajavid | there is netboot |
| 01:16.01 | ajavid | hd-media install as well |
| 01:16.45 | hedgehoginfog | abrotman, yep. THat's the end. |
| 01:17.06 | abrotman | hedgehoginfog: should we take away your beer? |
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| 01:17.27 | hedgehoginfog | abrotman, theres even a chance that i didnt have to install a backported kernel and could with a standard one from squeeze |
| 01:17.37 | hedgehoginfog | yeah |
| 01:17.41 | abrotman | possibly .. no big deal i guess |
| 01:17.45 | hedgehoginfog | alternatively you can shoot me |
| 01:18.12 | hedgehoginfog | abrotman, Should I switch back on that kernel or stay on the backported one? |
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| 01:18.33 | abrotman | hedgehoginfog: you can try them both .. the old one may not work (but it would have security support) |
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| 01:19.16 | hedgehoginfog | abrotman, fglrx failed to compile on this new kernel |
| 01:19.23 | abrotman | so try the old one |
| 01:19.43 | abrotman | hedgehoginfog: isn't there a blue/orange light or something on the wifi kill switch ? |
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| 01:22.29 | hedgehoginfog | abrotman, |
| 01:22.31 | hedgehoginfog | yes |
| 01:22.55 | hedgehoginfog | but because of the slope on the front panel you can't see it when you normally sit in your chair |
| 01:22.57 | abrotman | okay .. just checking |
| 01:23.01 | abrotman | is it an HP ? |
| 01:23.15 | hedgehoginfog | TOSHIBA Satellite A300D 158 |
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| 01:31.23 | zhxk | http://tech.qq.com/a/20090722/000620.htm |
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| 01:33.24 | abrotman | zhxk: you've been silenced for 10 minutes for being offtopic .. again |
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| 01:46.03 | yurikoles | PHP is programming lang? |
| 01:47.26 | yurikoles | >PHP is a scripting language originally designed for producing dynamic web pages. |
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| 01:48.04 | abrotman | yurikoles: ask ##php |
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| 01:52.35 | elik | I'm trying to get a init.d script to work. It's rtorrent starting script, that starts rtorrent under a certain user through screen "su -c "screen rtorrent" user" |
| 01:54.00 | elik | Whenever I try to connect to that screen, I su to the user, then try to reattach to screen, but it complains about /dev/pts/[01234] not being able to be opened |
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| 01:55.40 | elik | that being said, I start the service in a console started as my user, sued to root (and the script start screen as another user) |
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| 02:22.43 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 02:22.43 | dpkg | < hp_omnifook_2000> sry, i'm still windows-dumb |
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| 02:24.41 | abrotman | morning liable |
| 02:25.00 | liable | gday abrotman |
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| 02:32.54 | matthewpucc | anyone familiar with pygrub boot arguments? |
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| 02:33.57 | elik | abrotman, I'm having a hard time with pts and stuff, you know much about that? |
| 02:34.09 | abrotman | need to be more descriptive |
| 02:34.21 | elik | well, I can tell you the whole story... |
| 02:34.43 | beardy | Just ask a real question and everyone will be happy. |
| 02:35.00 | elik | So I have this rtorrent startup script, that starts rtorrent in a screen as a given third user |
| 02:35.21 | elik | beardy, join/part traffic often flood questions |
| 02:35.41 | elik | I start a terminal, su to that third user, and screen reattach |
| 02:35.50 | elik | I'm told that screen cannot open the terminal |
| 02:36.14 | elik | If I ssh to the user, or use one of the terminals, it works... but not su-ing |
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| 02:37.17 | elik | Using the who command, I can see that, even though I su'ed to the third user, the pts is still owned by the user that started the xsession |
| 02:37.20 | beardy | elik: man su, 'su -l user3' |
| 02:37.57 | elik | beardy, I just have to make it a login session? |
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| 02:40.58 | elik | beardy, no, doesn't work |
| 02:42.17 | beardy | elik: Ok. |
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| 02:43.39 | elik | beardy, same error |
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| 02:43.52 | elik | abrotman, did my description help? |
| 02:43.56 | beardy | elik: Then perhaps 'man screen' search "acl" is the best idea. Add the user you want to have access to user3's screen. |
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| 02:52.33 | JoshH | wtf, vsftpd's hide_file and deny_file don't seem to have any effect when the server is accessed with ipv6 |
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| 02:53.46 | beardy | Yet another reason to use ftp then. |
| 02:54.24 | beardy | (sarcasm) ;)))) etc. |
| 02:55.09 | pickcoder | almost missed the {sarcasm]" |
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| 02:56.47 | pickcoder | has anyone had problems with Dansguardian fouling up SSL connections under Lenny>? |
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| 02:58.05 | JoshH | beardy, this is just for downloads, actually a bunch of mirrors, accessible via http and ftp |
| 02:58.17 | JoshH | but with http, there is an index page, and a few other random php files that do stuff |
| 02:58.32 | JoshH | you can't see them via ftp with ipv4, but you can with 6 |
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| 03:00.15 | abrotman | if it's just for downloads .. use http |
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| 03:01.21 | JoshH | people like using either/or |
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| 03:02.09 | pickcoder | you can really screw with them and forward port 21 to 80 |
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| 03:03.56 | EruditeHermit | hi, does anyone know how to set up a git repo on alioth? |
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| 03:04.19 | JoshH | heh, it's actually an official mirror for a bunch of distros, including debian |
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| 03:06.15 | jpinx-eeepc | does aptitude search look through the configurable options of an application for matches? |
| 03:06.46 | Agent_bob | anyone care to help with a non-bootable kernel issue ? it seems that the 2.6.26-2-686 from the repos fails to boot |
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| 03:09.20 | pickcoder | root won't mount? |
| 03:09.33 | Agent_bob | it dumps me into the busybox shell with a fail to mount rootfs message. so i check "ls /root" it's empty of course, so i issue "mount /dev/sda /root; ls /root" now it's all like it should be: so, i do an "exit" and it kernel panics on me |
| 03:09.43 | pickcoder | I had the same problem on one box |
| 03:10.03 | pickcoder | no time to research it.. I just booted 2.6.26-1 and left it |
| 03:10.25 | ranix | someone else was having this issue earlier today |
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| 03:10.34 | Agent_bob | heh. they tell me i need the -2 for the wifi to work |
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| 03:10.57 | Agent_bob | @pickcoder |
| 03:11.33 | JoshH | i use that kernel on a bunch of servers with no problems |
| 03:11.40 | ranix | Agent_bob: make sure your grub options are correct, that hda is actually hda, etc. |
| 03:11.51 | ranix | update-grub may have fucked itself |
| 03:12.02 | pickcoder | ranix: that's not the problem on mine. root (hd0,0) is viewable from grub console |
| 03:12.03 | JoshH | but it's probably either a wrong grub setting, or a nonstandard /boot setup |
| 03:12.06 | Agent_bob | JoshH well maybe it doesn't like laptops ? |
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| 03:12.21 | JoshH | or / i guess |
| 03:12.24 | ranix | that doesn't really apply, Agent_bob |
| 03:12.33 | ranix | there's nothing special about a laptop |
| 03:12.59 | pickcoder | if Ihave time tomorrow I'll more closely at it |
| 03:13.07 | Agent_bob | ranix grub "shouldn't" be the issue. if i mount the rootfs on /root and exit the busybox shell it should boot as normal... |
| 03:13.36 | ranix | I have no experience with that |
| 03:13.46 | pickcoder | at first, I though it was fs corruption so I booted a live CD and ran e2fsck to see no errors |
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| 03:14.12 | Agent_bob | also i'm using grub2 and it boots other kernels ok... |
| 03:14.47 | JoshH | what's on the grub root and kernel lines? |
| 03:14.48 | Agent_bob | s/other/the only other .* i have installed/ |
| 03:14.56 | Agent_bob | uuid |
| 03:15.13 | JoshH | i'm using grub 0.97-47lenny2 |
| 03:15.40 | Agent_bob | but i have edited the kernel line and it doesn't change anything |
| 03:16.16 | JoshH | you installed the kernel with apt-get and let grub update itself? |
| 03:16.41 | Agent_bob | i did |
| 03:16.59 | Agent_bob | again grub is not the issue. that i'm pretty sure of. |
| 03:17.18 | pickcoder | I did a dist-upgrade a while back and didn't reboot with the -2 kernel |
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| 03:17.44 | pickcoder | we had a power problem one night and it failed to reboot the new -2 kernel |
| 03:17.56 | Agent_bob | pickcoder that's what i've done lost my working .26. |
| 03:18.19 | Agent_bob | less the power outage |
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| 03:33.50 | weldan\ganteng | if I getting error message when running lintian |
| 03:33.57 | weldan\ganteng | whe should I consult? |
| 03:34.01 | weldan\ganteng | where* |
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| 03:37.17 | somiaj | weldan\ganteng: google will sometimes bring up forms where others have posted and disccused such a message |
| 03:37.18 | somiaj | weldan\ganteng: does take a bit of serching at time to find a solution though |
| 03:38.14 | weldan\ganteng | thank you somiaj |
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| 03:40.24 | gurugeek | I can use nslookup to resolve name addresses to ip addresses but i can't browse the net using firefox. Please help. |
| 03:41.05 | somiaj | gurugeek: might want to state the issue. Can you ping any of the addresses, what error is firefox giving you? |
| 03:42.14 | gurugeek | somiaj: I can ping the IP address but not the name address, firefox "Looking up for www.facebook.com" |
| 03:42.47 | somiaj | do you have a valid nameserver entry in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 03:42.58 | gurugeek | yes i believe... |
| 03:43.25 | gurugeek | somiaj: i believe yes... i use the same setting for other machines |
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| 03:43.56 | gurugeek | somiaj: i can ping the dns servers and the gateway... i can perform nslookup, dig, host to outside sites |
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| 03:44.36 | gurugeek | somiaj: but ping won't reply back when i use their name addresses |
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| 03:45.24 | peterrooney | gurugeek: what happens if you put a manual entry into /etc/hosts? |
| 03:45.34 | somiaj | gurugeek: well you can cat /etc/resolv.conf to see what is there, and then try to ping the nameserver. If you are behind a router maybe the router is set at the nameserver and having trouble relaying it correctally. Sounds like a nameserver problem. I don't know nslookup to well, but it my use other sources besides the default nameserver to get its info. |
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| 03:46.48 | peterrooney | gurugeek: also, how did your irc client connect? |
| 03:46.59 | gurugeek | peterroney: I can browse the site but it stops when it communicates with other sites that are not in my /etc/hosts |
| 03:47.08 | ultraj6 | can debian be run on a motorola vanguard 6425? |
| 03:47.19 | gurugeek | peterrooney: I can browse the site but it stops when it communicates with other sites that are not in my /etc/hosts |
| 03:47.34 | gurugeek | peterrooney: i use the IP address of chat.freenode.net |
| 03:48.10 | somiaj | yea, it looks like dig/nslookup are other tools from BIND that may not use the same default nameserver query that is located in /etc/resolv.conf. So start there, maybe try another nameserver, that sounds like what your problem is |
| 03:48.11 | peterrooney | gurugeek: just wanted to be sure it wasn't just firefox having an issue. |
| 03:48.19 | gurugeek | somiaj: the other machines in my network can surf the net....i'm the only one using ubuntu 9.04 who can't |
| 03:48.53 | somiaj | gurugeek: well what do you get when you cat /etc/resolv.conf [please paste valuable info here but don't flood the chan] |
| 03:49.08 | gurugeek | peterrooney: all of my apps cannot connect to the net unless i use IP addresses |
| 03:49.37 | gurugeek | nameserver 121.1.3.199 |
| 03:49.39 | gurugeek | nameserver 203.84.191.216 |
| 03:50.48 | somiaj | gurugeek: as I thought those nameservers are not responding. I get no domain names being resolved if I use those. Go find yourself some valid nameservers |
| 03:51.06 | somiaj | gurugeek: they may only allow certain hosts to use them and you aren't on that list. |
| 03:51.25 | jmarsden | gurugeek: Better yet, see which DNS server(s) the other machines on your network use, and use those. |
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| 03:53.33 | gurugeek | jmarsden: i tried to use what the other machines use and i still can't browse the net |
| 03:54.22 | somiaj | gurugeek: I don't think your listening to me. Your nameservers are not set correctlly. Try to find a vaild nameserver. |
| 03:54.48 | jmarsden | gurugeek: What nameservers are the other machines using? |
| 03:55.33 | gurugeek | somiaj: when you say "valid" do you mean everyone in my network using that nameserver should be able to connect to the internet? |
| 03:55.54 | gurugeek | jmarden: the same nameservers i got |
| 03:55.58 | gurugeek | nameserver 121.1.3.199 |
| 03:56.02 | gurugeek | nameserver 203.84.191.216 |
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| 03:56.51 | somiaj | gurugeek: I'm done. But as I said it could be some requirment of your nameserver to be a valid host to use them. And you are somehow not set up as a valid host, which seems like a question for your isp. |
| 03:57.22 | somiaj | gurugeek: but you don't have to use your isp's nameservers, you could go look and find a free one out there you could use if you want to trust a strange nameserver to resolve domain names correctally |
| 03:58.05 | squisher | hm, anyone know a good technique to keep some single packages installed from experimental up-to-date? |
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| 03:58.29 | craigevil | squisher: pin the package |
| 03:58.57 | squisher | craigevil, so I can just pin it to experimental, instead of to a specific version number? |
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| 04:00.09 | craigevil | squisher: when Ooo was way ahead in exp i had in my /apt/preferences Package: * |
| 04:00.11 | craigevil | Pin: release a=experimental Pin-Priority: 101 |
| 04:00.39 | squisher | craigevil, thanks |
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| 04:02.48 | Rusty1 | 208.67.222.222, 208.67.220.220 for opendns, gurugeek |
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| 04:05.02 | DanDare | Hello. Trying to record GRUB into a floppy, using stable. When invoking 'grub-install /dev/fd0' i got: "grub-probe: error: Cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/fd0. Check your device.map". I have the entry for /dev/fd0 on device.map file, how to fix? Any clue? |
| 04:05.16 | DanDare | I have also fd0 entry on fstab |
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| 04:06.41 | gurugeek | somiaj: thanks anyways, but when i use my Windows OS from a separate partition, i can surf the net without problem, i'm using the same IP addess as my host... |
| 04:07.25 | adb | DanDare: grub-install --recheck /dev/fd0 , and insert a floppy in drive , my guess |
| 04:07.39 | Agent_bob | DanDare there is a script for "making grub floppies" |
| 04:08.21 | jmarsden | gurugeek: OK, and what DNS servers does ipconfig /all say your Windows networking setup is using? |
| 04:09.06 | gurugeek | Rusty1: i still can't browse even i'm using opendns :( i tried that before |
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| 04:09.43 | DanDare | adb, already tried with --recheck and same error message |
| 04:09.54 | gurugeek | jmarsden: Same DNS servers |
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| 04:09.57 | DanDare | Agent_bob, i can find such a script into stable installation ? |
| 04:10.26 | somiaj | gurugeek: well maybe there is something strange happening. I think its something to do with your nameservers. I am not able to use the nameservers you posted so you have to be a valid host. Maybe your ubuntu is not authenticating to be a valid host correctally with dhcp while your windows partition does. |
| 04:10.34 | gurugeek | jmarsden: somiaj: peterrooney: is my linux box broken? |
| 04:10.39 | somiaj | gurugeek: but since your using ubuntu, please goto #ubuntu |
| 04:10.54 | Rusty1 | gurugeek: i know this is lame , but tried /etc/init.d/networking restart ? |
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| 04:11.33 | jmarsden | Rusty1: If he can ping the remote nameservers then networking itself (and routing) is fine already... so why would that be likely to help? |
| 04:11.33 | gurugeek | somiaj: we both know i can get better answers in this channel than in #ubuntu :) no offense |
| 04:11.42 | iluminator101 | What is net.agent? |
| 04:12.25 | Rusty1 | jmarsden: i did say it was lame |
| 04:12.41 | jmarsden | gurugeek: Do you have a (Ubuntu?) live cd you can boot the machine from and see whether DNS works from that? Just as a test? |
| 04:12.46 | somiaj | gurugeek: well the issue could be ubuntu specific. But did you manually modify your /etc/resolv.conf and put in the two ip adresses in place of the two you have that Rusty1 gave you |
| 04:13.04 | jmarsden | Rusty1: OK, I though you had some insight into the issue I had missed :) |
| 04:13.08 | somiaj | gurugeek: or comment out '#' the nameserver lines you have and add the ones for the free ones |
| 04:13.09 | jmarsden | *thought |
| 04:13.52 | gurugeek | somiaj: By default, our DHCP servers provide DNS information, it wont work, i modified it to openDNS, still won't work |
| 04:14.36 | somiaj | gurugeek: I think its your network. It could be blocking other nameserver requests. Talk to a network admin |
| 04:15.24 | gurugeek | actual /etc/resolv.conf content ---> nameserver 208.67.222.222 nameserver 208.67.220.220 |
| 04:15.26 | Rusty1 | jmarsden: only that some weird dnsmasq fubar (or somesuch) was possible |
| 04:15.32 | gurugeek | the above does not work |
| 04:15.54 | jmarsden | gurugeek: That is on two separate lines in the file, right? |
| 04:16.28 | DanDare | ""Cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/fd0"" on google returns just 4 matches. Seems that im having a sort of problem nobody has before :) |
| 04:17.18 | gurugeek | somiaj: actually I can access configs of our routers. All users can surf the net but not me :) When i use my windows OS, I can surf the net. |
| 04:17.20 | jmarsden | DanDare: Google for just "Cannot find a GRUB drive" -- which device it is happening on should not affect the basic cause. |
| 04:17.27 | gurugeek | jmasden: yes |
| 04:18.03 | gurugeek | another /etc/resolv.conf content ---> nameserver 192.168.1.254 |
| 04:18.05 | jmarsden | gurugeek: OK. So cayou try a Ubuntu LiveCD (a) in your PC and (b) in a different PC, let DNS be configured by DHCP, and see if either or both of them work? |
| 04:18.33 | gurugeek | still wont work but it works when i'm in windows, other machines uses this local DNS and it works for them |
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| 04:18.41 | somiaj | gurugeek: your nameservers could require some auth from dhcp to say 'you are a valid' host which you are getting when you boot in windows but not in linux [as I have said many times]. Since I don't know your network I cannot guess [or have much experince] figuring out what sort of info it requires to authenticate you |
| 04:18.53 | gurugeek | jmasden: ok i'll try it |
| 04:19.57 | Rusty1 | gurugeek: got wireshark? |
| 04:20.11 | gurugeek | somiaj: hmmmm |
| 04:20.23 | gurugeek | Rusty1: yes... |
| 04:20.25 | jmarsden | gurugeek: Good. This is (I hope) a fairly quick way to check if the issue is with (a) your hard drive Ubuntu installation, (b) your hardware, or (c) "something weird relating to Ubuntu vs Windows DNS" |
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| 04:21.09 | jmarsden | Rusty1: Passing around Wireshark capture files and doing troubleshooting at that level over IRC would be... timeconsuming :) |
| 04:21.15 | gurugeek | jmarsden: i'm not so familiar with it though.. can you guide me? |
| 04:21.33 | jmarsden | gurugeek: Let's try the livecd tests first... |
| 04:21.50 | gurugeek | jmarsden: ok :) |
| 04:21.52 | jmarsden | I do know wireshark, but explaining how to use it and getting the info over IRC would take a while... |
| 04:22.09 | gurugeek | Rusty1: what should i look for? |
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| 04:22.34 | gnr | anybody with openvpn and pkcs11 experiences here? |
| 04:23.14 | gurugeek | thanks you guys... i'll be back after the live cd tests :) |
| 04:23.58 | Lako | mount: no permission to look at /dev/loop<N> |
| 04:24.00 | Lako | ahh |
| 04:24.02 | Lako | Hi! I'm hungarian user and i dont speek very good english, but i have a problem with a ISO mount in a VPS. The error message is: mount: no permission to look at /dev/loop<N> |
| 04:24.03 | Lako | :D |
| 04:24.04 | Lako | sry. |
| 04:24.05 | Lako | :D |
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| 04:25.23 | joeytwiddle | probably you must make the mount as root |
| 04:25.32 | joeytwiddle | or put it in fstab with the 'user' option |
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| 04:25.43 | joeytwiddle | or allow a sudo command to the user |
| 04:26.11 | Lako | i'm root :( |
| 04:26.21 | Lako | and i try sudo with lako user |
| 04:26.26 | Lako | but dont work :( |
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| 04:27.21 | joeytwiddle | strange i have never seen that "no permission" error |
| 04:27.23 | joeytwiddle | google it! |
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| 04:28.06 | jmarsden | Lako: Does the mount command you are using work if you do su first? And (just as a check) what does ls -l /dev/loop0 output? |
| 04:28.45 | Agent_bob | ah there is a new linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 in the updates. maybe it will fix my kernel panic... if not i'll be back tomarrow. |
| 04:29.37 | Lako | jmarsden i copy to you in msg ok? |
| 04:29.44 | jmarsden | Lako: OK. |
| 04:29.50 | adb | dpkg: tell Agent_bob -about bpo |
| 04:30.25 | adb | Agent_bob: beckports has 2.6.30 |
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| 04:31.19 | Agent_bob | adb for lenny i guess ? |
| 04:31.24 | adb | yes |
| 04:32.08 | jmarsden | Lako: ... wait... You did ls -l / dev/loop0 and the extra space after the first / is not wanted... :) Just do ls -l /dev/loop0 exactly like that. Should be just one line of output. |
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| 04:33.27 | Lako | :D |
| 04:33.31 | Lako | yes i know :D |
| 04:33.40 | Lako | i send you msg |
| 04:33.54 | Lako | see u? |
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| 04:42.19 | kdorf | Hey folks, I'm looking at getting into using Sid since I want the convenience a rolling release style provides. I've heard that lots of people use it in day to day tasks but I am curious to hear what people say about its stability. Thoughts? |
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| 04:43.15 | maxagaz | can i get the ip of a device from it's MAC ? |
| 04:44.43 | Esine | only if the device is in your LAN maxagaz |
| 04:45.01 | Esine | with RARP |
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| 04:46.57 | wad | I've put together a new machine, and I'd like to install debian on it. I don't have an optical drive handy, though. I do have a couple of USB flash drives. Is there a way to install from one of these? |
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| 04:47.08 | dkr | yes |
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| 04:47.14 | itsosimpo | hello, i'm looking for this: PS2 LINUX RTE CD 1.0 (Install BlackRhino) by CERF4 |
| 04:47.34 | itsosimpo | hello, i'm looking for this: PS2 LINUX RTE CD 1.0 (Install BlackRhino) by CERF4 |
| 04:47.42 | wad | whoops... nature calls. Sorry, back in a few. |
| 04:47.46 | _abbenormal | try google |
| 04:47.48 | dkr | !tell wad about usb install |
| 04:48.23 | itsosimpo | i found a couple torrents with no seeds |
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| 04:57.23 | itsosimpo | anyone have the linux boot cd for playstation2? |
| 04:57.30 | itsosimpo | <---wants it |
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| 05:10.04 | alsd | hi there |
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| 05:13.25 | alsd | i'm having trouble here setting up dwww (www debian help system) using lighttpd as a HTTPD : dwww relies on CGI scripts, which work only if the URL is of the form 'http://localhost/cgi-bin/<script>' but not 'http://<fqdn>/cgi-bin' . i'm using lenny's lighttpd default config with CGI enabled, but I can't realy grok lighttpd's doc in this respect |
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| 05:13.52 | jmarsden | Hmmm, Lako did not return yet? Testing a LiveCD boot on a couple of PCs should not take this long... |
| 05:15.17 | CcSsNET | pentium 133 :P maybe give him 20 more minutes |
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| 05:16.07 | jmarsden | Ouch! OK... |
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| 05:21.41 | alsd | CcSsNET: the first debian version I ever tried was on a P75 with 16Mb RAM ;) |
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| 05:22.09 | alsd | CcSsNET: seems like far away now |
| 05:22.26 | alkyC | P75? |
| 05:22.46 | alsd | alkyC: pentium 75 MHz ;) nothing sooo fancy |
| 05:22.52 | alkyC | ahhh |
| 05:23.46 | alsd | it's still running NetBSD at this time, btw. The only UNIX that works out of the box on older hardware |
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| 05:24.04 | alkyC | that pentium 75 is still up and running? |
| 05:24.47 | alsd | yes, it's here. running is not the word i would use, but it's my FTP file server |
| 05:26.20 | jmarsden | alsd: The first Linux distro I tried was Manchester Computer Center Interim, in late 1992, on a 386SX16 .. and no, that is not still running :) |
| 05:27.59 | bpun | hi |
| 05:28.00 | bpun | :) |
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| 05:28.25 | bpun | i have radeon driver for a dualhead card. anyone has a hint how i can activate my second monitor? |
| 05:28.33 | bpun | http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.0/doc/radeon.4.html |
| 05:28.39 | alsd | jmarsden: for me it was SLS, now known as slackware, on the same hardware. couldn't get it far because of a proprietary CD-ROM drive with (sbpcd module, i still remember) that wouldnt work at the time ;) |
| 05:29.15 | bpun | (my bootup screen is closed prior loading the X daemon) |
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| 05:29.27 | bpun | (rather /cloned/ than closed) |
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| 05:30.10 | antii | having problems with samba and permissions, when i write a file from my computer to my server it saves as like "antii" and not www-data, how do I set permission so it saves and only can be read/write by www-data? I want the files to be saved as: www-data:www-data |
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| 05:31.34 | alsd | antii: i'm no samba expert, but maybe fiddle with the unix->smb username mappings? |
| 05:32.00 | alsd | antii: or simply log onto the server as www-data |
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| 05:32.09 | antii | im logged in as www-data. |
| 05:32.15 | antii | wierd part it saves as my user :/ |
| 05:32.47 | jmarsden | alsd: I didn't get a CDROM until later... MCC was on floppies, as was Slackware when I "upgraded" to that a bit later... when I did get a CDROm it was external SCSI so I didn't have to deal with the proprietary CDROM stuff :) |
| 05:33.09 | jmarsden | antii: man smb.conf, especially the force user = and force group = parameters ? |
| 05:34.24 | alsd | antii: if you have the same regular user name on your windows session, and on the server, with same password, then windows might silently open a regular user session |
| 05:34.31 | bpun | antii, u shouldn't use www-data as a user |
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| 05:34.52 | bpun | antii, u can try to use samba to impersonate www-data, so that the www-data permissions are reflected |
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| 05:35.33 | jmarsden | bpun: That is what the force user = and force group = parameters I just mentioned do... isn't it? |
| 05:35.50 | alsd | antii: if you only want to remotely modify www data on the server, you'd better use a ftp server, but that's another story |
| 05:36.12 | bpun | jmarsden, i know samba can do impersonatios.. probably related to those keywords you mentioned.. mapping |
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| 05:37.26 | antii | hm |
| 05:37.31 | jmarsden | alsd: FTP? SSH would be a lot more secure... can use FileZilla or WinSCP or whatever on the Windows client side if needed. |
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| 05:38.34 | bpun | y, |
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| 05:38.40 | antii | I had this solved before but I forgot to backup the content, I just had to do something with chmod :/ |
| 05:38.43 | alsd | jmarsden: well, whatever. I don't like SSH because as mentioned earlier, i'm working on old hardware, so it's noticeably using much more CPU than regular FTP. but YMMV |
| 05:38.44 | bpun | filezilla can do sftp against ssh |
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| 05:39.25 | jmarsden | FTP is painful not just for lack of encryption of passwords, but all the extra ports in your firewall needed for remote acces, etc etc... |
| 05:39.56 | bpun | ftp is a thing of the past.. only the security-less minded people use it :) |
| 05:40.06 | bpun | and "telnet" |
| 05:40.15 | alsd | is a security-less minded people, and proud of it |
| 05:40.19 | bpun | ssh replaces both telnet and ftp.. |
| 05:40.32 | nooper | dont forget irc servers... like freenode |
| 05:40.39 | bpun | alsd, if you're already using ssh, u can just fire up that filezilla client |
| 05:41.19 | alsd | bpun: i'm not using redmond, WA operating systems, it's antii's problem i guess |
| 05:42.02 | bpun | alsd, antii , you dont know that sftp is already available with ssh? |
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| 05:42.14 | bpun | it's easy as 123 :) |
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| 05:42.23 | alsd | jmarsden: one point. but once it's set up, it's ok. much like NFS, insecure thing of the past blah blah |
| 05:42.37 | alsd | bpun: i know all that, thanks |
| 05:42.42 | bpun | alot of people that come into using *nix stuff, think u have to use ftp.. but sftp is already there under the openssh-server package |
| 05:42.53 | jmarsden | antii: Well, you can chown www-data:www-data /path/to/directory and then chown ug+s /path/to/directory |
| 05:42.54 | alsd | bpun: please backlog a little to understand my point ;) |
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| 05:43.09 | jmarsden | antii: Is that what you were thinking of? |
| 05:43.26 | antii | jmarsden: so sudo chgrp www-data:www-data /var/www/ && chown ug+s /var/www ? |
| 05:43.36 | bpun | spots "* alsd is a security-less minded people, and proud of it" |
| 05:43.36 | alsd | jmarsden: u+s on directory doesnt make user created file become directory UID |
| 05:43.38 | jmarsden | Second one would be chmod, my typo... |
| 05:43.41 | bpun | hums |
| 05:43.56 | alsd | jmarsden: i've been beaten by this one no later than yesterday |
| 05:44.14 | jmarsden | alsd: It most certainly used to last time I tried it.. I'll try it again here... |
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| 05:44.57 | alsd | jmarsden: in the shell, doesn't work. with servers in the middle fiddling, maybe it does |
| 05:45.09 | alsd | jmarsden: g+s works as expected, not u+s |
| 05:46.03 | alsd | jmarsden: it's in the GNU coreutils (think chmod) manual : the u+s trick work on "some systems" while g+s on "most systems" |
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| 05:46.40 | alsd | jmarsden: but no mention is made of the "some" or "most". i guess it's a POSIX requirement |
| 05:46.40 | gnr | anybody with openvpn and pkcs11 experiences here? |
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| 05:48.30 | alsd | bpun: i'm a bit tired of wasting time when doing SCP or SFTP waiting for the CPU to RSA2048bits-cypher the file and RSA2048bit-decypher on the other side, if you see what i mean |
| 05:49.01 | bpun | alsd, don't use scp.. it's slower.. use sftp.. |
| 05:49.02 | alsd | bpun: when there's 1MB worth of data, no problem, but much is just not possible |
| 05:49.54 | Cain | "the attempt to mount a file system with type reiserfs in IDE1 master partition #1 (hda1) at / failed" <== what's the problem ? (hard failure ?)) |
| 05:50.04 | alsd | bpun: and I agree with you, it's worth it on insecure WAN links, but for LAN, it's simply useless |
| 05:50.29 | bpun | alsd, fast here.. i'm using an nslu2 as well as pentium3 .. |
| 05:50.57 | Cain | (i'm partitionning the hd under installation mode (debian lenny)) |
| 05:51.11 | jmarsden | alsd: Hmmm, You are right on Debian... I must have been doing that on some other flavored server at the time... |
| 05:53.45 | alsd | bpun: the trouble is that, even with a 100Mb/s ethernet link and a 686-grade CPU on both sides, the bottleneck lies in SSH cypher. for internet wan links, I guess using a nslu2 for SSH cypher won't make it the bottleneck |
| 05:54.10 | alsd | bpun: but frankly, security minded or not, on a home LAN, what's the point in using cyphered transfers? |
| 05:54.22 | bpun | alsd, you guessing.. |
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| 05:54.30 | bpun | alsd, whatever suits you.. |
| 05:54.34 | bpun | :) |
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| 05:56.23 | fogus | hi, how do I get isolinux for debian? I am trying to create a bootable usb stick so I can install debian on a pc with no optical drive |
| 05:57.12 | bpun | fogus, there's also netboot.. so u can install over lan if your bios supports it.. |
| 05:57.32 | bpun | fogus, there's wiki guides for it online (setting one machine as tftp server, etc..) |
| 05:59.00 | fogus | bpun: I have this mobo: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=31420&vpn=P5Q-Premium&manufacture=ASUS |
| 05:59.20 | jmarsden | fogus: Wouldn't you be better off with syslinux rather than isolinux ? |
| 05:59.21 | fogus | it says it supports PXE |
| 05:59.34 | fogus | jmarsden: I don't know what syslinux is actually |
| 05:59.37 | alsd | bpun: i've been working for people using some "operating system" from redmond, WA, lately, using a standard remote desktop protocol for this "OS" without any security, VPN or otherwise, having setup the router NAT to the boss' computer from the outside: it was like, the boss' computer had all ports open for the world to use, gently redirected by the stupid router. and they wanted to sue me cos their LAN got hit by Blaster(tm) at the time |
| 05:59.55 | alsd | bpun: so i know a little about security, y'know ;) |
| 06:00.00 | jmarsden | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:00.02 | fogus | my program "flashboot" says that I need to get isolinux |
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| 06:00.26 | beardy | fogus: Read the package description of it. It includes isolinux, and pxelinux and so on. |
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| 06:00.48 | fogus | beardy: package discription of what? |
| 06:00.56 | jmarsden | fogus: syslinux :) |
| 06:00.58 | beardy | fogus: syslinux |
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| 06:04.09 | fogus | beardy: is syslinux debian? |
| 06:04.28 | jmarsden | fogus: Try apt-cache show syslinux |
| 06:04.40 | bpun | fogus, syslinux is a project on making linux bootable... |
| 06:04.48 | fogus | jmarsden: I am on windows xp here |
| 06:04.55 | bpun | fogus, similar to grub and lilo |
| 06:05.22 | jmarsden | fogus: Then use http://packages.debian.org and search for syslinux :) |
| 06:05.22 | alsd | fogus: shit happens ;) |
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| 06:06.28 | fogus | alsd: how do I use this to boot from usb? |
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| 06:07.02 | fogus | alsd: I just want to install linux |
| 06:07.39 | jmarsden | fogus: http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.php/SYSLINUX |
| 06:07.56 | alsd | fogus: it's a bit tricky to do, but can be done. i've been told the debian install manual documents using USB sticks as an installation medium |
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| 06:08.42 | alsd | fogus: trouble is, it's better to have an UNIX handy to do that |
| 06:09.00 | jmarsden | fogus: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en |
| 06:09.07 | jmarsden | But syslinux exists on Windows too. |
| 06:09.09 | alsd | fogus: you can also try http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ |
| 06:09.22 | fogus | alsd: sweet name! |
| 06:09.31 | alsd | fogus: no need for any usb stick or CD ROM |
| 06:09.42 | alsd | fogus: see the link, it's all explained in video |
| 06:09.43 | fogus | alsd: ?? |
| 06:10.08 | beardy | !usb install |
| 06:10.08 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. (Older, outdated article at http://d-i.pascal.at/) |
| 06:10.44 | alsd | beardy: thanks, i was a bit lazy on this one ;) |
| 06:10.49 | beardy | Not tricky at all, just follow the instructions. |
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| 06:11.04 | beardy | alsd: Hehe, or I was the lazy one. |
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| 06:11.58 | fogus | beardy: that guide doesn't work. I already tried it yesterday |
| 06:12.18 | beardy | fogus: What doesn't work? |
| 06:13.23 | alsd | fogus: try the goodbye-microsoft.com, it's no joke, you can install directly from windows without any installation media other than your internal hard disk |
| 06:14.01 | alsd | fogus: i've been told it's a regular debian developper who sat up this web site |
| 06:14.19 | fogus | beardy: #1. I am running windows and the guide requires linux. #2. is is not possible format the stick to fat16. #3 I get no boot |
| 06:14.25 | beardy | (Admittedly that guide looks a bit weird.. not using dd to put it on the stick..) |
| 06:15.03 | fogus | beardy: #4 dd does not work. |
| 06:15.33 | fogus | alsd: I have another computer (not this one) that lacks the optical drive) |
| 06:15.50 | beardy | fogus: No. And that does not mean the guide is wrong. 2. You don't format it if writing an image to it. 3. You didn't do it correctly, since you statd 1. as a problem, so how can you say 3. |
| 06:15.55 | fogus | this new computer has no OS on it |
| 06:16.15 | alsd | fogus: well, as i told you twice already, as long as you have a windows operating system with an internet connection and a web browser, it's ok |
| 06:16.17 | jmarsden | fogus: if you need yet more alternatives, try unetbootin also. http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ |
| 06:16.27 | beardy | fogus: No, but rawrite does. |
| 06:16.39 | fogus | jmarsden: I tried unetbootin but I get no boot from it |
| 06:16.58 | alsd | fogus: you go with your browser to http://goodbye-microsoft.com , click on the image, run the windows-based installer, reboot, install, and voila, debian is on your computer |
| 06:17.16 | jmarsden | alsd: On a machine with no OS, browsing to anywhere is difficult... |
| 06:17.19 | fogus | alsd: computer 1: this one. no want change os. |
| 06:17.29 | fogus | alsd: computer 2: the other one: has no OS |
| 06:17.40 | fogus | alsd: computer 2 want debian |
| 06:17.40 | alsd | fogus: oh ok ;) |
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| 06:17.56 | alsd | needs another cofee |
| 06:18.06 | alsd | fogus: sorry for the inconvenience |
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| 06:18.34 | fogus | I just formated to straight FAT with another tool. trying unetbootin again. |
| 06:18.41 | alsd | isn't it possible to HTTP netboot over the internet? |
| 06:18.55 | alsd | i've been told some people managed to do that |
| 06:18.58 | fogus | alsd: I can't find the bios switch to do pxe |
| 06:19.34 | alsd | fogus: maybe with qemu you can do stuff |
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| 06:19.45 | alsd | fogus: or with any virtualization thingy |
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| 06:20.18 | alsd | fogus: qemu for windows can use your usb stick like a regular hard disk, so you can follow debian installation manual for usb stick based install |
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| 06:20.34 | fogus | alsd: what do you mean qemu? |
| 06:20.48 | alsd | fogus: www.qemu.org |
| 06:20.57 | bpun | fogus, qemu is like vmware.. |
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| 06:21.31 | fogus | alsd: but this computer has NO OPERATING SYSTEM |
| 06:21.58 | alsd | fogus: yes sir. but on your other computer you just mentionned, you can use qemu |
| 06:22.06 | alsd | fogus: http://www.h6.dion.ne.jp/~kazuw/qemu-win/qemu-0.9.0-windows.zip for the windows port |
| 06:22.45 | alsd | fogus: it comes with a light linux installation, where you can dd all you want |
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| 06:24.39 | fogus | alsd: oh. sorry. this is an emulated windows? |
| 06:24.55 | fogus | alsd: oh. sorry. this is an emulated linux?8 |
| 06:25.02 | fogus | alsd: oh. sorry. this is an emulated linux?* |
| 06:25.03 | alsd | fogus: yes |
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| 06:25.48 | fogus | thankgoodnes for something better than cygwin |
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| 06:26.49 | alsd | fogus: see there for the full details http://homepage3.nifty.com/takeda-toshiya/ |
| 06:27.08 | uman | how can I turn up the volume in debian |
| 06:27.13 | uman | "alsamixer" doesn't exist |
| 06:27.13 | alsd | fogus: well, for a screenshot and link, that is |
| 06:27.57 | uman | oh, I have to install alsa-utils |
| 06:28.05 | uman | wouldn't have thought alsamixer came in a separate package, but whatever |
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| 06:28.38 | peterrooney | uman: apt-file can tell you which package a file can be found in. |
| 06:28.53 | bpun | also apt-cache policy <packagename> |
| 06:29.01 | bpun | ( i mean repo ) |
| 06:29.13 | bpun | oops -- wrong context :) |
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| 06:30.11 | peterrooney | bpun: context? you should see what happens when I hit eraseword in xchat :) |
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| 06:30.31 | bpun | sorry.. |
| 06:30.42 | bpun | that's better than dpkg -S :) |
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| 06:31.25 | alsd | fogus: see the docs http://www.nongnu.org/qemu/qemu-doc.html#SEC21 for how to use your USB stick like a regular hard disk under qemu |
| 06:31.40 | bpun | anyone here using xinerama? i have dualheaded card.. |
| 06:31.49 | bpun | the dam thing is using radeon.. |
| 06:31.59 | bpun | :/ |
| 06:32.37 | alsd | fogus: if you want a more pleasent user experience than qemu's harsh one, you can do the same with virtualbox (http://www.virtualbox.org) |
| 06:33.02 | alsd | fogus: it has all features and stuff at a few mouse clicks away |
| 06:33.50 | alsd | fogus: but qemu is light and fast, doesn't install system drivers unless specifically requested, and can be forgotten afterwards |
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| 06:34.55 | beardy | fogus: If your windows box has an optical drive, you can alsso use a livecd. |
| 06:35.42 | fogus | beardy: alsd: I don't see that this gets me much closer to booting my linux box to usb. I keep trying things that "should" work |
| 06:36.13 | fogus | my bios doesn't seem to allow me to boot without switching on some emulation (like CDROM) |
| 06:36.24 | bpun | fogus, you have 2 machines? |
| 06:36.35 | fogus | bpun: yes |
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| 06:36.58 | beardy | fogus: One rather assumes you can boot from USB when that is what you are trying to do, and don't have anything else to boot from. |
| 06:37.29 | beardy | fogus: If you can't, then get something to boot from instead. |
| 06:37.37 | bpun | fogus, do you have an ide cd-rom available? some of them work on usb-enclosures.. that way u can do a usb-cdrom boot |
| 06:37.40 | fogus | beardy: well I can't tell if I can. nothing has woked so far |
| 06:38.15 | beardy | fogus: What kind of machine is it you are trying to install on? |
| 06:38.33 | alsd | fogus: the thing is, it allows you to follow the debian installation manual, as you can use a real linux system to prepare your usb stick |
| 06:38.43 | fogus | beardy: http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=31420&vpn=P5Q-Premium&manufacture=ASUS |
| 06:38.56 | fogus | beardy: I just built it |
| 06:39.07 | alsd | fogus: besides, the usb stick method described in the install manual is quite stupid-BIOS proof |
| 06:40.21 | fogus | well, I guess, to be honest, I could rip out another cd drive and use it. I would like to use usb though and I want to learn about the boot process. I would be happy with pxe boot (which this bios apparently has according to http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=31420&vpn=P5Q-Premium&manufacture=ASUS ) |
| 06:40.27 | alsd | fogus: the i'm telling you (prepare usb stick with qemu or virtualbox) is the one i used to install my stupid dell laptop, the one i use at this precise moment |
| 06:40.29 | fogus | but I cannot find the pxe switch |
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| 06:41.05 | beardy | alsd: You said it has cdrom emulation? Just write the netinstaller imag to the USB stick and boot. |
| 06:41.18 | beardy | image* |
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| 06:41.21 | alsd | beardy: from windows? |
| 06:41.56 | beardy | alsd: From anywher as long as it's written correctly, raw to the stick. |
| 06:41.57 | fogus | beardy: yes, it says it has cdrom emulation. does that mean I can use an iso image? |
| 06:42.05 | beardy | fogus: Yes. |
| 06:42.17 | alsd | fogus: don't you have some sort of boot menu in your bios? (usually F12, F11 or F8 during BIOS POST) |
| 06:42.19 | fogus | beardy: how do I write the files to the disk? |
| 06:42.46 | jmarsden | fogus: rawrite is the classic way from Windows... |
| 06:43.11 | alsd | jmarsden: works with usb sticks too?? |
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| 06:43.59 | fogus | jmarsden: rawrite doesn't work actually. it only works for floppies! |
| 06:44.00 | jmarsden | Hmmm.... if it can see the device.... alternate would be physdiskwrite or whatever it is called... that uses devices |
| 06:44.22 | beardy | fogus: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Install#PuttingtheimageontoaUSBstick look at the windows methods there. But use the standard netinstaller image. |
| 06:44.37 | jmarsden | Or try dd from http://www.chrysocome.net/dd |
| 06:44.59 | ajavid | hola |
| 06:45.19 | beardy | fogus: IIRC I used flashnul successfully. |
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| 06:47.03 | fogus | ohh... I may have PXE!!! |
| 06:47.58 | fogus | I'm gonna do pxe tomorrow. I'm tireded |
| 06:48.00 | alsd | fogus: machines sold these days usually do |
| 06:48.02 | beardy | I'm sure you do, but just get the netinstaller on the stick.. |
| 06:48.17 | alsd | fogus: but setting up a netboot machine is a tiresome process too |
| 06:48.19 | fogus | beardy: well, that dd thing is confusing! |
| 06:48.35 | beardy | fogus: No. And I recommendd flashnul. |
| 06:48.40 | bpun | fogus, i told ya so :) LIKE AN HOUR AGO |
| 06:48.42 | bpun | hehehehe |
| 06:48.43 | beardy | ded. |
| 06:49.50 | bpun | netboot has good wiki with debian.. the process is straight forward... |
| 06:49.55 | fogus | beardy: flashnul? http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Install_from_USB_stick ? |
| 06:50.16 | beardy | fogus: Read the link I gave you. |
| 06:50.29 | bpun | fogus, i spotted debian-on-usb stick archive online.. but i'm not sure if its simply to flash to a disk.. |
| 06:50.48 | beardy | fogus: Under dd. |
| 06:51.48 | bpun | wonders about the wikipedia page about the dangers of using dd when copying to a device.. |
| 06:51.56 | bpun | hehe |
| 06:51.59 | bpun | maybe it's wrong.. |
| 06:52.04 | bpun | so i just use cat :) |
| 06:52.11 | beardy | ? |
| 06:52.15 | bpun | oh that.. |
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| 06:53.43 | bpun | the notrunc whatever thing it mentions.. |
| 06:54.29 | dacs | hi, is there Wild deuces poker game for lenny please |
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| 06:54.58 | fogus | beardy: can I use fat32? |
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| 06:55.45 | simonrvn | dacs: nope. never. /msg dpkg search |
| 06:55.46 | ronalwo | can't scan with my hp f380. "no devices". anyone using this all-in-1? |
| 06:56.16 | dacs | simonrvn: why never |
| 06:56.25 | beardy | fogus: Writing an image to a media means writing a filesystem to it. Any formating and data on the stick will be lost, so formating it is a waste of time. |
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| 06:57.06 | fogus | oh, cool |
| 06:57.36 | fogus | beard |
| 06:57.54 | fogus | beardy: you know this is not an eeepc, right? |
| 06:57.54 | beardy | fogus: Be really careful that you give dd or flashnul the correct device to write to. |
| 06:58.08 | beardy | fogus: You do read what people tell you right? |
| 06:58.24 | fogus | beardy: occasionally |
| 06:58.26 | beardy | fogus: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Install#PuttingtheimageontoaUSBstick look at the windows methods there. But use the standard netinstaller image. |
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| 06:58.51 | beardy | Start doing it all the time here, atleast what I say when speaking to you. |
| 06:59.02 | fogus | beardy: gotcha |
| 06:59.52 | fogus | beardy: I can't find the standard img on that page |
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| 07:00.03 | beardy | !netinstall |
| 07:00.03 | dpkg | [netinst] a small CD image which installs Debian using an Internet connection, but the connection is not required for a base install to complete. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ and ask me about <check iso image>. If you use a dial-up connection, ask me about <dialup install>. See also <usb install>, <pppoe install>, <netboot>, <bf>. |
| 07:00.11 | beardy | fogus: ^^^ |
| 07:00.24 | fogus | beardy: I need the .img for this one, right? |
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| 07:00.45 | beardy | fogus: Yes. The img for i386. |
| 07:01.33 | fogus | beardy: well, those are ISOs |
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| 07:03.15 | fogus | beardy: can I convert the ISO to an IMG? |
| 07:03.30 | fogus | beardy: I need some sleep. this is taking a long time! |
| 07:03.36 | fogus | I'll be back! |
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| 07:03.51 | beardy | fogus: Right. You need the ISO filesystem image, in this case it has a filename ending in .iso http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.2/i386/iso-cd/debian-502-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 07:04.09 | fogus | no, beardy says I need the ... |
| 07:04.13 | fogus | ISO? |
| 07:04.19 | fogus | IMG? |
| 07:05.17 | beardy | fogus: Download the file above. Write it to your USb stick with the methods I told you previously. Boot it. |
| 07:05.37 | fogus | beardy: I already have the amd64 version which I want |
| 07:05.56 | beardy | fogus: Write it, boot it. |
| 07:07.26 | fogus | beardy: yes, sir. |
| 07:08.24 | fogus | beardy: emulate cdrom? |
| 07:09.26 | beardy | fogus: What about it? That is what you should select in yur BIOS yes, if that's what you mean. |
| 07:09.40 | beardy | your. |
| 07:09.47 | fogus | beardy: yes, I will select it |
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| 07:12.01 | _RedGhost_ | hi there |
| 07:12.27 | _RedGhost_ | what package should I install to get spellchecking in kde 4.3? |
| 07:13.18 | beardy | _RedGhost_: Depends what you are typing in, in your KDE, any version. |
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| 07:13.55 | _RedGhost_ | beardy: I got this dictionary plasmoid which doesn't do anything right now |
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| 07:14.11 | R1ck | anyone here with experience ssh'ing to junipers? I get the error 'derive_ssh1_session_id: bad server modulus (len 48)' |
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| 07:15.48 | fogus | beardy: Reboot and Select proper boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key |
| 07:15.48 | beardy | _RedGhost_: plasmoid? |
| 07:16.03 | fogus | beardy: same as always |
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| 07:16.19 | _RedGhost_ | beardy: the little widgets you can put on the desktop in kde 4 |
| 07:16.31 | beardy | fogus: What did yu use to write the ISO to the USB stick? |
| 07:16.43 | fogus | beardy: flashnul |
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| 07:17.27 | beardy | _RedGhost_: Ok. Well, it depends what program you ar typing in, where you ant spellchecking, different programs use different spellcheckers. |
| 07:18.32 | beardy | fogus: Hmm, ok. Any other alternativees in your bios? USB without cd emulation? |
| 07:18.39 | _RedGhost_ | beardy: yeah, I know |
| 07:18.44 | fogus | beardy: trying that now |
| 07:18.55 | fogus | beardy: same result |
| 07:19.12 | fogus | beardy: there is also hard drive, forced floppy, auto |
| 07:19.23 | fogus | beardy: I've tried them all |
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| 07:19.44 | fogus | thanks for you help but maybe I just have a weird bios |
| 07:19.48 | beardy | fogus: Mor than one USB port in the machine? Use the "first" one (try them all). |
| 07:20.15 | beardy | fogus: Yes, it's possible.. also worth trying another stick. You're welcome, hope you sort it out. |
| 07:20.27 | fogus | beardy: my bios sees the usb stick quite clearly and it is configured as the first boot device |
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| 07:20.55 | beardy | fogus: Ok. I mean the first, as in the first one connectd to your motherboard. |
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| 07:22.26 | beardy | fogus: Sometimes you have extended ones, so, the first physical port, if it matters, I don't know, but stranger things have been known to happen. |
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| 07:23.03 | fogus | beardy: there are 10 usb ports on the back panel |
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| 07:24.06 | mycelium | Hello. I use Debian testing and yesterday i had update the mutt: |
| 07:24.06 | mycelium | mutt 1.5.18-6+b1 -> 1.5.20-2 |
| 07:24.06 | mycelium | After this the mutt had stop display messages in MX mailboxes. |
| 07:24.06 | mycelium | mbox mailboxes displayed nice |
| 07:24.06 | mycelium | .mh_sequences file in MX mailbox present. |
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| 07:24.12 | [dksuiko] | Hello. |
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| 07:24.59 | fogus | beardy: I'm trying ghost32 with hirens now, just to make sure that I can boot |
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| 07:25.50 | beardy | fogus: If it's hard to see which one is the first on the USB bus, you have some testing to do then. |
| 07:27.08 | beardy | fogus: Yes, that's a good idea too. If your other machine can boot from USB, make sure the stick is ok an can be booted from at all, too. |
| 07:28.12 | beardy | blames his fingers or a small laptop keyboard for the missed characters everywhere |
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| 07:32.19 | mycelium | hello. my question about mutt is visible or removed by debhelper (flood)? |
| 07:32.20 | fogus | beardy: nothing seems to boot. tyring another stick |
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| 07:33.03 | beardy | mycelium: The question is there, but use a pastebin to paste things. |
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| 07:34.12 | HelpSeeeker | anyone here installed debian on Sparc? |
| 07:35.46 | beardy | !sparc |
| 07:35.47 | dpkg | [sparc] the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded ones usually run Solaris, but to run Linux on it, visit http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html, Type make vmlinux (not kernel, bzImage, lilo, anything like that) to compile the kernel. For more information about the SPARC architecture, see http://www.sparc.org. For help with Linux on SPARC look in #debian-sparc on irc.oftc.net, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARC |
| 07:36.07 | mycelium | beardy: ok. but i had think that pastebin for code and log. i wrote a normal chat messages, but send this too fast and debhelper kick me |
| 07:36.16 | beardy | Hmm. Not terribly helpful.. |
| 07:37.14 | beardy | mycelium: Yes. It did, but what you wrote it can not remove :) |
| 07:37.36 | mycelium | ammm... sorry, MH-mailbox, not MX |
| 07:37.41 | beardy | mycelium: Pastebin is for anything longer than two-three lines. |
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| 07:38.44 | mycelium | beardy: ok, I dont want to argue |
| 07:40.38 | mycelium | me intrest the mutt behavior :) |
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| 07:45.32 | Lemon_BE2 | How can i get more detailed info about a package thati want to install with apt-get install, |
| 07:45.34 | Lemon_BE2 | ? |
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| 07:45.45 | Lemon_BE2 | for example i want to know the version that it will be installing |
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| 07:46.22 | craigevil | apt-get show package |
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| 07:46.35 | streuner_ | Lemon_BE2: apt-cache show package, packages.debian.org/<package> |
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| 07:51.31 | Lemon_BE2 | hmmm looks like my debian Etch wants to install subversion 1.4 |
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| 07:51.39 | Lemon_BE2 | while the latest stable version is 1.6.3 |
| 07:51.51 | streuner_ | judd, versions subversion |
| 07:51.51 | judd | streuner_: subversion -- etch: 1.4.2dfsg1-2 etch-backports: 1.5.1dfsg1-1~bpo40+1 lenny: 1.5.1dfsg1-2 squeeze: 1.5.6dfsg-1 experimental: 1.6.1dfsg-1 sid: 1.6.3dfsg-1 |
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| 07:52.35 | streuner_ | dpkg, info subversion sid |
| 07:53.10 | streuner_ | !+tell Lemon_BE2 -about backports |
| 07:53.10 | dpkg | told Lemon_BE2 about backports. |
| 07:53.20 | dpkg | subversion: (Advanced version control system), section vcs, is optional. Version: 1.6.3dfsg-1 (sid), Packaged size: 1252 kB, Installed size: 4148 kB |
| 07:53.21 | Lemon_BE2 | ok thx |
| 07:53.37 | Lemon_BE2 | what does the sid stand for? |
| 07:53.46 | R1ck | its a release name |
| 07:53.57 | R1ck | like etch, lenny |
| 07:53.57 | EmleyMoor | It's short for Sidney <g> |
| 07:54.19 | Lemon_BE2 | ah ok, i should upgrade to lenny? |
| 07:54.23 | R1ck | anyone remember what deb 3.0 was called? |
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| 07:55.11 | EmleyMoor | R1ck: potato IIRC |
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| 07:55.23 | EmleyMoor | (BICBW) |
| 07:55.27 | Lemon_BE2 | hmm it looks like my previous serverwhere i currently hold the repository is using subversion 1.4.2 |
| 07:55.41 | Lemon_BE2 | so i guess i should install 1.4.2 then on the new server for minimal problems |
| 07:56.28 | R1ck | oh i thought that was called sid too |
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| 07:57.05 | beardy | 3.0 is Woody. Potato is 2.2. |
| 07:57.07 | EmleyMoor | buzz, rex, bo, hamm, slink, potato, etch, lenny, squeeze... "sid" is always unstable |
| 07:57.13 | EmleyMoor | Ah, woody |
| 07:57.20 | EmleyMoor | Knew I'd wissed one |
| 07:57.23 | EmleyMoor | missed |
| 07:57.30 | purplepenguins | and sarge |
| 07:57.47 | beardy | Which is 3.1. |
| 07:58.03 | EmleyMoor | Ah, yes... potato, woody, sarge, etch... |
| 07:58.14 | beardy | That's right. |
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| 07:58.24 | purplepenguins | it seems so long ago |
| 07:58.35 | purplepenguins | when woody was stable |
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| 07:58.51 | EmleyMoor | remembers hamm being stable |
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| 07:59.05 | Lemon_BE2 | I wonder how their meetings go for deciding the new names |
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| 07:59.17 | purplepenguins | woody was my first |
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| 07:59.21 | EmleyMoor | All Toy Story characters |
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| 08:01.10 | EmleyMoor | slink was my personal first but we had one on hamm at work |
| 08:02.03 | beardy | Woody was my first installation, but I was introduced on potato. |
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| 08:03.28 | EmleyMoor | I think sarge is the only recent release I never once installed from scratch |
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| 08:05.07 | purplepenguins | i haven't tried squeeze yet |
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| 08:05.34 | EmleyMoor | I have one real box on testing - been following it since that was woody |
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| 08:06.59 | EmleyMoor | (I keep it on testing as there are unfixed bugs in some of the packages I need and they were only in testing way back then... once all fixed I intend to bring it to stable and then possibly merge it with another box |
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| 08:09.05 | simonrvn | < potato, and reinstalled once. |
| 08:09.39 | beardy | I have a box that I run Woody on, not networked, and it does what I need and want. (Too little RAM to bother with upgrading fs and push it back and.. such.) |
| 08:09.46 | simonrvn | new installs... not since this box, don't recall which. |
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| 08:09.53 | EmleyMoor | I've had several new systems over the years - and my most important one went amd64 last year |
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| 08:11.03 | EmleyMoor | I have plans to upgrade the hardware of my other very important box next year |
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| 08:11.33 | EmleyMoor | I may even hand down the remains of the old one to the testing box. |
| 08:12.10 | EmleyMoor | However, top of the list is a new laptop |
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| 08:12.42 | beardy | installed Lenny, last time he installed anything, on this eeepc. |
| 08:13.22 | beardy | His first new laptop. |
| 08:13.53 | EmleyMoor | Did lenny/amd64 in late freeze and lenny/i386 a few weeks ago. |
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| 08:15.16 | js_ | i always forget, is there a limit of 4 partitions when using primary partitions? |
| 08:15.29 | js_ | i have 4 partitions, and 220gb which is "unusable" in cfdisk |
| 08:15.39 | js_ | do i need to repartition/reinstall? |
| 08:15.51 | EmleyMoor | js_: On PC hardware, yes... you need to use extendeds or LVM |
| 08:15.53 | beardy | Will hopefully install a misc project and playbox within te next weeks.. for gateway/asterisk server, possibly bbs.. |
| 08:16.01 | maligor | Sid will come and torture your "stable" installations too! |
| 08:16.17 | EmleyMoor | has an asterisk server |
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| 08:17.36 | g00se | EmleyMoor: What's the minimum special phone hardware you need for that? |
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| 08:18.05 | EmleyMoor | g00se: If you just want to do VoIP with IP phones, none. |
| 08:18.31 | EmleyMoor | g00se: If you want to use a POTS line you need a card with an FXO |
| 08:18.43 | beardy | (If the P133 with whatever RAM I can match up, hopefully atleast 384MB will do) |
| 08:18.51 | EmleyMoor | g00se: If you want to use a POTS-type phone you need a card with an FXS |
| 08:18.51 | g00se | EmleyMoor: Right, thanks |
| 08:19.08 | EmleyMoor | has a 3 FXS 1 FXO card |
| 08:20.09 | g00se | EmleyMoor: 3 FXS? Do you need one per POTS phone? |
| 08:20.29 | EmleyMoor | g00se: No... you can p.ut 3 REN worth on each |
| 08:20.49 | R1ck | i have an asterisk server but with BRI ISDN |
| 08:21.06 | EmleyMoor | has his port, his partner's and a spare which is wired to the hall |
| 08:21.07 | R1ck | and in three weeks it will be PRI :) |
| 08:21.52 | g00se | EmleyMoor: You in the UK by any chance? |
| 08:21.58 | EmleyMoor | g00se: Yes |
| 08:22.27 | g00se | EmleyMoor: What does it give you in functionality over BT's best throws? |
| 08:22.47 | weldan | how do i fix this error |
| 08:22.49 | weldan | E: imspector: no-shlibs-control-file lib/libimspector.so |
| 08:22.49 | weldan | E: imspector: postinst-must-call-ldconfig lib/libimspector.so |
| 08:22.53 | beardy | guesses low cost and control |
| 08:22.59 | weldan | no idea what its about |
| 08:23.06 | EmleyMoor | g00se: Do you mean what can I do on it better than BT's services? |
| 08:23.30 | g00se | EmleyMoor: Yes. I suppose monitoring CLI would be free e.g. |
| 08:23.33 | weldan | output from running lintian |
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| 08:24.16 | EmleyMoor | g00se: If you have caller ID on the BT line, the box can read it - and on VoIP incoming, it's there anyway... |
| 08:24.45 | EmleyMoor | g00se: I have colour lists for various phone numbers - to control what can get through when |
| 08:25.08 | EmleyMoor | Also, I can force anonymous calls to voicemail... |
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| 08:26.00 | EmleyMoor | At night, all calls go to voicemail unless the CLI is whitelisted |
| 08:28.01 | g00se | EmleyMoor: I'm going into #debian-offtopic in case you're interested ... |
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| 08:37.08 | KU0N | I have an apt-get error: http://pastebin.com/m951ca14 I'm on an embedded debian on a small arm based motherboard. |
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| 08:41.22 | g00se | KUON: Looks somewhat like one of those packages could be broken. Did you ask #emdebian? |
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| 08:43.31 | rdz | hi all. i am running several openvz hosts and i would like to have the possibility to vzmigrate VEs between them. however, vzmigrate requires to have public_key enabled ssh access between the real machines. for security reasons, i am concerned to do that. does someone have an idea how i could use vzmigrate without having to use public_keys? |
| 08:43.35 | greenmang0 | KU0N: also run # aptitude update that might solve the authentication issue |
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| 08:50.50 | tawan | hi. making my first footsteps into Debian and doing an "expert" install. Non expertly I set root to "ro" and now have boot problems - Question is, how to remove that ro option? |
| 08:51.22 | tawan | ...i deleted ro from menu.lst but it seems to exist elsewhere. |
| 08:52.32 | jmarsden | tawan: First steps suggests that you are not (yet) an expert... so why did you pick the expert option? Can't you just reinstall without using the expert install? |
| 08:53.00 | tawan | jmarsden, indeed i am no expert but want the debian base to put openbox on |
| 08:53.26 | tawan | can i just get rid of this "ro" option on root? |
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| 08:54.03 | miniBill | kdm doesn't start, and I dunno why, cause xinit works |
| 08:54.46 | jmarsden | tawan: Simpler to install Debian, but do so using the normal default installer... if you insist, see if there is an ro option in /etc/fstab that needs to be removed? |
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| 08:56.59 | tawan | thanks jmarsden :) |
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| 08:58.44 | miniBill | error message is:"kdmgreet: Fatal IO error: client killed" |
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| 09:02.57 | jacks_ | hi, i'm using debian lenny, when trying to install build-essential i get errors saying i have unmet dependencies, ive tried apt-get update, etc but i still can't get it workng, suggestions ? |
| 09:03.21 | miniBill | you can try to manually install dependencies |
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| 09:04.06 | jacks_ | i've tried that also, when i install the dependency it says i have the newest version installed but it still refuses to install |
| 09:04.28 | themill | jacks_: can you pastebin the command and the entire output, along with the output of "apt-cache policy" |
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| 09:04.38 | jacks_ | sure |
| 09:04.38 | Aldus | hi, big trouble on my debian server: if I run tar I have a "Illegal istruction" error. If I run "RM" I have a "Segmentation fault" error. What to do, it looks scary |
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| 09:06.06 | miniBill | Aldus: what did you do before it started going crazy_ |
| 09:06.45 | jacks_ | http://pastebin.com/m2183b2b1 |
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| 09:07.02 | Aldus | miniBill: nothing, installed new sites on apache |
| 09:07.06 | Aldus | and created a mysql server |
| 09:07.59 | miniBill | Aldus: what user you were when you installed these new sites? maybe you mistyped something and overwrote system files |
| 09:09.35 | Aldus | no it's impossible... |
| 09:09.38 | Aldus | damn... what to do :( |
| 09:10.59 | themill | jacks_: what does "aptitude -f install build-essential" want to do? At the very least, it will usually provide more information on what is going on and usually, apitutude will work out what to do and solve the problem. (/msg dpkg why aptitutde) |
| 09:11.11 | nkuttler | Aldus: well, check system hardware, ready backups, prepare reinstall/new box? |
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| 09:12.08 | Aldus | yes...i guess this is what will happen |
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| 09:13.27 | jacks_ | themill: aptitude is saying dpkg & libc6-dev is broken heh |
| 09:14.51 | themill | jacks_: can you pastebin the full output (say "q" to its suggested solution) |
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| 09:15.21 | themill | jacks_: the output of "apt-cache policy build-essential libc6-dev g++ dpkg-dev libstdc++6-4.1-dev" is likely to be helpful here too |
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| 09:18.14 | bpun | does dri, require a user to be in a group? |
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| 09:26.09 | jacks_ | themill: they all have the same mirror debian.lcs.mit.edu etch/main shall i update the apt sources and see what happens? |
| 09:26.31 | jacks_ | weird i could have sworn it was running lenny |
| 09:26.59 | jacks_ | .. no wonder.. someone has installed lenny and used etch mirrors ? |
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| 09:27.02 | themill | if you have a lenny/etch mix there, that will certainly give rise to these sorts of problems |
| 09:27.05 | jacks_ | that would explain alot |
| 09:27.45 | themill | (and the output of that apt-cache command that I asked for would show "lenny" versions of packages with no mirror being available for them) |
| 09:28.01 | jacks_ | ah okay |
| 09:28.05 | jacks_ | wow thanks for the help |
| 09:28.06 | jacks_ | appreciated |
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| 09:29.44 | bpun | jacks, you better be :) |
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| 09:30.08 | jacks_ | :P |
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| 09:30.25 | Tiffon | nas |
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| 09:30.51 | nsadmin | jacks_: for a limited time, etch mirrors and lenny mirrors are the same thing |
| 09:31.46 | bpun | anyone knows about wtf is penrose? i have no idea why it would show up in top |
| 09:32.25 | nsadmin | bpun: that question can be answered by searching |
| 09:33.56 | craigevil | bpun: running xscreensaver? |
| 09:34.22 | bpun | ah |
| 09:34.30 | bpun | thanks.. that makes sense craigevil.. |
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| 09:35.03 | themill | .o0( apt-file search penrose ) |
| 09:35.08 | bpun | i have that trivial feeling again :) |
| 09:35.09 | DexterF | hi |
| 09:35.20 | DexterF | I accidentally copied a passwdless ssh-key to a machine, how do I remove it? |
| 09:36.29 | Polarina | DexterF: The private key? |
| 09:36.34 | bpun | DexterF, passwordless? that's good.. |
| 09:36.45 | bpun | lol |
| 09:36.47 | DexterF | Polarina: ah, nvm, removed the authorized key on the target, that did it |
| 09:37.06 | DexterF | bpun: no problem on my local machines. |
| 09:37.09 | Polarina | DexterF: The public key doesn't change when you change/add/remove the password from the private one. |
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| 09:43.11 | nvucinic | hello, i have a problem with my stmp, from this morning the port is mareked as "filtered" i even run iptables -F and it's still filtered... |
| 09:43.28 | nvucinic | smtp* |
| 09:43.42 | petemc | nvucinic: perhaps its not you doing the filtering |
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| 09:44.20 | nvucinic | petemc: it's my host? then who? the service provider ? |
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| 09:45.10 | yusiki | which is better to use, apt-get or aptitude? |
| 09:45.18 | petemc | nvucinic: no idea, obviously - but its not uncommon for port 25 to be filtered due to virus infected machines sending spam |
| 09:45.26 | petemc | yusiki: generally, aptitude |
| 09:45.58 | nvucinic | but this is from this morning... pretty anoying... |
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| 09:46.06 | EmleyMoor | aptitude is good - like apt-get asd dselect rolled together |
| 09:46.09 | EmleyMoor | and |
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| 09:47.40 | nvucinic | petemc: what can i do now ? if i cant user my own smtp server ? |
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| 09:48.45 | jmarsden | nvucinic: Contact your ISP and ask them to unblock TCP port 25 for you. |
| 09:50.00 | nvucinic | jmarsden: my server and my ISP are not connected... |
| 09:50.32 | jmarsden | Then you does the Internet connect to your server? ask whoever you pay for that Internet connection for the server. |
| 09:50.46 | jmarsden | s/you does/how does/ |
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| 09:51.12 | nvucinic | jmarsden: thx :D |
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| 09:53.10 | nvucinic | yup, that was it, i just made tunnel to another ISP and my mail worked |
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| 09:55.42 | makayabou | hello |
| 09:55.44 | makayabou | I'm going to get mad because I can't what is the launcher for Quit applet in Gnome-panel |
| 09:56.04 | Phasy13 | I can't what |
| 09:56.11 | Phasy13 | i can't what you are saying |
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| 09:56.25 | makayabou | I can't find |
| 09:56.28 | EmleyMoor | Phasy13: Sorry? |
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| 09:56.38 | Phasy13 | EmleyMoor you are forgive |
| 09:56.42 | EmleyMoor | Ah... I see |
| 09:56.42 | makayabou | I'm going to get mad because I can't find where is the launcher for Quit applet in Gnome-panel |
| 09:56.49 | Phasy13 | s/forgive/forgiven |
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| 09:56.55 | Hal9000 | hello! i wanted to upgrade my etch machine but the debian keay has changed... what can i do now? |
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| 09:59.21 | makayabou | Which is the launcher for quit applet in gnome-panel? |
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| 10:00.33 | EugenMayer | is it possible to let find return absolute paths? |
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| 10:01.43 | petemc | EugenMayer: give it an absolute path and it will return one |
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| 10:02.09 | EugenMayer | petemc: thank you |
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| 10:02.53 | makayabou | How can I add a quit entry to gnome main menu |
| 10:03.52 | EmleyMoor | What do you mean by "main" menu? |
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| 10:06.17 | nsadmin | the gnome menu is read from the debian menu system |
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| 10:06.43 | nsadmin | what would quit do? |
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| 10:07.38 | nsadmin | (and if you think before you strike, you'll realize the answer is not so obvious) |
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| 10:09.02 | makayabou | EmleyMoor, I want to add quit button in applications-menu |
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| 10:09.33 | EmleyMoor | makayabou: And what exactly do you want it to do? |
| 10:10.08 | makayabou | I'm customizing computers for people learning |
| 10:10.36 | makayabou | I want a simple menu, with list of applications, and "Quit" to shutdown, restart, the computer |
| 10:10.39 | nsadmin | well maybe you've figured out already what quit will do |
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| 10:19.36 | KU0N | Sorry for asking again, I was disconnected. |
| 10:19.40 | KU0N | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:19.44 | KU0N | Any idea? |
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| 10:30.51 | makayabou | How can I add quit entry in applications.menu? |
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| 10:31.11 | makayabou | I'm looking for the location of the launcher |
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| 10:33.17 | mhymn_ | makayabou: how about asking #gnome ? |
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| 10:34.17 | makayabou | WHat is server for #gnome |
| 10:35.01 | mhymn_ | there should be one here on freenode |
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| 10:36.26 | lvh | makayabou: irc.gnome.org |
| 10:36.29 | makayabou | There is just #gnome-uk on Freenode but only 8 people in |
| 10:36.32 | lvh | there is a gnome channel here but it sucks |
| 10:36.49 | themill | !gnome |
| 10:36.49 | dpkg | gnome is, like, a Desktop Environment ("DE", so are <KDE> and <XFCE>) based on GTK+. To get GNOME, ask me about <install gnome>. See also <gnome status>. http:/wiki.debian.org/Gnome http://www.gnome.org/ #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org. |
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| 10:37.56 | makayabou | !gnome |
| 10:37.56 | dpkg | gnome is, like, a Desktop Environment ("DE", so are <KDE> and <XFCE>) based on GTK+. To get GNOME, ask me about <install gnome>. See also <gnome status>. http:/wiki.debian.org/Gnome http://www.gnome.org/ #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org. |
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| 10:40.16 | tawan | is miket AKA avanceIT in here by any other name? |
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| 10:43.28 | nkuttler | hrm, any ideas why running a php file that only contains <?php ?> would randomly lead to segfaults while apache is happily running all kind of php apps? i'm thinking bad ram, but that should lead to more problems than just this.. |
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| 10:45.48 | edoreld | I have a self-signed certificate which I created from my server, in which path should I put it in the client (and under which name) so that when I go to "https://server" it will not say "Connect to untrusted site? etc" ? |
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| 10:47.43 | meglo | I ran into a "kernel bug" according to the netinstall syslog... |
| 10:48.08 | meglo | I'm trying to install from a netinstall cd(which was hell to get working with bad hardware burning bad disks and bad readers on another computer) |
| 10:48.13 | nkuttler | edoreld: debian client? |
| 10:48.19 | meglo | Used supplemental repos to grab xfce4-desktop |
| 10:48.25 | meglo | It chocked on Openoffice-common |
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| 10:48.32 | edoreld | nkuttler: yar, debian server und client |
| 10:48.35 | meglo | while unpacking it to my loop encrypted hard disk |
| 10:48.44 | edoreld | lenny as well |
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| 10:49.05 | nkuttler | edoreld: check the docs for ca-certificates i guess |
| 10:49.26 | edoreld | nkuttler: where are thise? |
| 10:49.28 | edoreld | those* |
| 10:50.01 | meglo | "Kernel BUG at fs/jdb/journal.c:1790". The unpacking stage of installing the software has hanged. the dpkg process is dead, and I can't kill it from busybox... how do I continue the installation if at all possible? It is chocking on OO.o-common... I knew that would screw me over. I was miffed when it was installing along xfce4 |
| 10:50.03 | nkuttler | edoreld: /usr/share/doc/package |
| 10:50.11 | edoreld | thank ye |
| 10:50.23 | nkuttler | edoreld: or just link yours in /etc/ssl/ |
| 10:51.03 | digitaloktay | hi people |
| 10:51.08 | meglo | Would anyone here happen to know how to rescue debian-installer from dying? I had to frantically hit my keyboard for 20 goddamn minutes to get enough entropy for the disk encryption loop thing to work. |
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| 10:51.55 | meglo | This is sorta ridiculous. I would post on a mailing list but you know, I don't have email and I'm going to turn the machine off if it is just going to hang/choke on a package during installation. |
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| 10:53.07 | meglo | Now that I know it was a bad disk controller, IDE cable, and drive, and NOT the disk I burned, I can go back to computing simplicity with ubuntu-8.04-i386-desktop.iso :( |
| 10:53.16 | bpun | meglo, you can't bugreport with that kind of attitude. |
| 10:53.17 | nkuttler | meglo: just install base from the cd and boot into a real system? |
| 10:53.34 | meglo | bpun: don't you need a working system to bugreport? and working sendmail? |
| 10:53.45 | meglo | nkuttler: I am installing from a base netinstall. |
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| 10:53.50 | bpun | ignores meglo |
| 10:53.54 | meglo | I don't understand... I don't have a working system. |
| 10:54.06 | meglo | bpun: I was being serious but oh ok. |
| 10:54.25 | meglo | nkuttler: I can install base.... |
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| 10:55.01 | meglo | But I downloaded all these packages nkuttler and that took a long time and setting up the perfect partitioning ;_; |
| 10:55.06 | riot | humho.. mkdir (and only mkdir) lags HARD when i create a directory on a large ext3-fs. Every other access to that fs is paused until mkdir returns after 10 seconds. How comes? |
| 10:55.15 | riot | and only since the fs is quite full (>95 %) |
| 10:55.17 | themill | meglo: What bug is there to report if it was a hardware failure? |
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| 10:55.54 | meglo | themill: I'm not certain it was a hardware failure. I've cleared out the hardware mess I was in, and it isn't relevant |
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| 10:56.25 | meglo | I'm trying... as the dpkg install process is dead/frozen - to figure out if I can rescue it |
| 10:56.29 | meglo | and kill it, maybe get back to main menu |
| 10:56.34 | meglo | and re-try to unpack everything |
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| 10:56.48 | themill | meglo: in any case, nkuttler's suggestion is right: complete the base install first and once you've rebooted into the installed system, *then* think about installing other stuff. |
| 10:56.48 | meglo | because 'Kernel BUG at fs/jdb/journal.c:1790' |
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| 10:57.39 | meglo | themill: That was the original plan. I saw debian-installer offered supplements but I *should* know by now not to trust 'intelligent' installers on GNU+Linux. |
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| 10:58.06 | themill | meglo: thousands of other people have no problems with that step. You must be very unlucky. |
| 10:58.15 | nkuttler | sounds like bad hardware anyway |
| 10:58.27 | meglo | themill: I think I'm cursed, I ran into many other problems prior to this in a span of 4~ hours. |
| 10:58.30 | nkuttler | oh, crypto loop |
| 10:58.36 | meglo | yes |
| 10:58.47 | meglo | I tested the ram, the cd, the disk |
| 10:58.50 | nkuttler | meglo: sounds even more like hardware |
| 10:58.55 | meglo | no bad sectors, ram is OK, the cd checksums correctly |
| 10:58.56 | themill | ahh... way to make life hard |
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| 10:59.13 | meglo | nkuttler: sure but what does fs/jbd/journal.c do even hahaha |
| 10:59.48 | meglo | kernel BUG. Must be my hardware, even though I've had it working well and only switchedfffff |
| 10:59.50 | meglo | It could be many things |
| 11:00.19 | meglo | But blaming the hardware is easy - does anyone know of good methods to try to rescue debian installer, if it chokes on a certain step? |
| 11:00.30 | meglo | I see the menu still running, but the dpkg process is frozen |
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| 11:01.09 | meglo | can't kill it, ctrl+c in the verbose tty5 terminal or whatever just produces tail from syslog |
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| 11:02.24 | meglo | I should be more reserved when seeking help. Sorry :( |
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| 11:02.58 | meglo | I'm probably not going to solve this and will take the easy route. :\ |
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| 11:04.23 | meglo | 'oh no microsoft is coming out with an OS based on coyotos with type-safe managed code in sand-boxed virtual machine i don't know what means i'm only a user i must pursue hackerdom immediately!' is sorta why I did this tonight. |
| 11:04.39 | meglo | I'm going to install some simple system and go back to reading library books :| |
| 11:05.02 | maligor | these computers are becoming too fast! make them slower! |
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| 11:07.17 | eshat | Hi all, just upgraded my sid installation (new intel gfx driver). and suddently KDE 4.3 (RC2) does not enable effects anymore, any help ? |
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| 11:11.11 | nsadmin | is it possible to use pg-7.4.something under lenny (other than compiling it, I'm aware of that possibility) |
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| 11:12.51 | nsadmin | I guess I could fwd-port the packages |
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| 11:19.15 | mns | I've got a debian/squeeze laptop. At the office it is a Windows world mostly, including Active Directory. What's probably the best way to make sure that I use AD for authentication to my laptop ? This way its a single sign-on. Samba ? LDAP ? either of those with PAM ? |
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| 11:21.35 | nsadmin | mns: you have to be able to bind to the authentication server |
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| 11:21.54 | nsadmin | this might require a password |
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| 11:21.56 | DaveLP | Does somebody have a quick tutorial on how to SSH to a Debian server without a password? |
| 11:22.00 | DaveLP | ssh keys |
| 11:22.12 | nkuttler | !ssh keys |
| 11:22.13 | dpkg | i heard ssh keys is http://www.puddingonline.com/~dave/publications/SSH-with-Keys-HOWTO/ |
| 11:22.38 | nsadmin | DaveLP: create a key pair, then you have public and private keys, put the public key on the server |
| 11:23.21 | DaveLP | I already have a .ssh/id_dsa.pub on my local machine, just put that into .ssh/authorized_keys on the remote machine? |
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| 11:24.22 | vaq | DaveLP: yes |
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| 11:24.37 | nsadmin | DaveLP: append the text of the .pub to the authorized_keys file on the remote |
| 11:24.42 | DaveLP | vaq: There is no .ssh/ folder on the remote machine, does that mean something is not installed? or should i just create it? |
| 11:24.57 | vaq | DaveLP: just create the folder and file manually |
| 11:25.02 | nsadmin | can you ssh in using a password? |
| 11:25.06 | DaveLP | yeh |
| 11:25.12 | DaveLP | is sftp installed by default too? |
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| 11:25.20 | nsadmin | so sshd is installed on the remote |
| 11:25.22 | vaq | DaveLP: same protocol, yes. |
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| 11:26.30 | nsadmin | if you create .ssh yourself, then you should decide the perms on that dir |
| 11:26.41 | DaveLP | what should they be? |
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| 11:26.57 | nsadmin | depends. do you want other users in that dir? |
| 11:27.58 | DaveLP | no. just this user |
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| 11:28.31 | nsadmin | then I would recommend perms appropriate to that. do you understand unix-style permissions? |
| 11:28.50 | vaq | DaveLP: chmod -R 600 .ssh |
| 11:29.14 | DaveLP | vaq: chmod: cannot access `.ssh/authorized_keys': Permission denied |
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| 11:29.24 | vaq | DaveLP: did you create .ssh from root? |
| 11:29.36 | DaveLP | no, the user |
| 11:29.36 | vaq | DaveLP: You should create .ssh from within the user you want to ssh as |
| 11:29.45 | nsadmin | and be -very- careful with -R on chmod, chown, chgrp, rm and possibly a few other commands |
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| 11:30.43 | DaveLP | not working |
| 11:30.52 | DaveLP | can i use that chmod command as root |
| 11:30.56 | DaveLP | to change permissions to that user |
| 11:31.20 | vaq | DaveLP: chown -R user.user /home/user/.ssh |
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| 11:31.24 | vaq | as root |
| 11:31.26 | nsadmin | why isn't it working? ("not working" only transmitting a single bit of info) |
| 11:31.57 | nsadmin | I think you should slow down |
| 11:32.03 | DaveLP | would chown -hR user /home/user/.ssh do the same thing |
| 11:32.35 | nsadmin | DaveLP: are you conversant with bash? |
| 11:32.48 | DaveLP | nsadmin: yes |
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| 11:33.21 | nsadmin | ok, this situation requires care as you must know |
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| 11:33.52 | nsadmin | count to ten before hitting enter on these, make sure the cmd line is correct, no extra spaces, no missing spaces |
| 11:34.17 | DaveLP | hmm im still getting -bash: cd: .ssh: Permission denied |
| 11:34.33 | nsadmin | ok, |
| 11:34.44 | nsadmin | ls -ld ~/.ssh |
| 11:34.48 | nsadmin | show that line |
| 11:34.59 | nsadmin | and do that as your user |
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| 11:35.19 | DaveLP | drw------- 2 dave dave 4096 2009-07-22 12:26 /home/dave/.ssh |
| 11:35.44 | nsadmin | chmod u+x /home/dave/.ssh |
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| 11:36.15 | nsadmin | after doing that, it should be 0700 |
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| 11:36.32 | DaveLP | 0700? |
| 11:36.55 | nsadmin | (wait, execute perms on dirs?? what does it mean to execute a dir?) |
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| 11:37.03 | DaveLP | drwx------ 2 dave dave 4096 2009-07-22 12:26 /home/dave/.ssh |
| 11:37.22 | kripz | Why is my JFS raid5 always entering read only mode? Im getting errors in dmesg but i dont know what is causing it. Ive run samsung diagnostic tools on all the harddrives and smarmontools, they all pass. Tested ram with memtest, passed. Heres log: http://pastebin.com/m2f62fbf0 |
| 11:37.37 | nsadmin | it doesn't... it's a trick, dirs use that bit to have filescan perms |
| 11:38.00 | nsadmin | now, dave should be able to get to the file |
| 11:38.05 | DaveLP | ok |
| 11:38.07 | DaveLP | thank you |
| 11:38.08 | DaveLP | :) |
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| 11:42.12 | nsadmin | DaveLP: so do you have the key there? |
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| 11:49.22 | DaveLP | hi |
| 11:49.27 | nsadmin | DaveLP: so do you have the key there? |
| 11:49.45 | DaveLP | Yes, just wondering something |
| 11:49.56 | DaveLP | on the actual authorized_keys file the permissions are -rw-r--r-- |
| 11:49.58 | DaveLP | is that right? |
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| 11:50.40 | nsadmin | well you created it... so it was created using a particuilar kind of default |
| 11:50.55 | DaveLP | that means all users can read it? |
| 11:51.06 | nsadmin | all users on that box, yes |
| 11:51.34 | DaveLP | what would be the command to change it to -rw------- |
| 11:51.37 | DaveLP | just so i can read/write |
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| 11:51.54 | nsadmin | that's 0600 |
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| 11:54.56 | DaveLP | nsadmin: chmod -r authorized_keys? |
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| 11:55.26 | nsadmin | not -r |
| 11:55.35 | nsadmin | becareful with -r |
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| 11:56.30 | nsadmin | chmod 0600 authorized_keys |
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| 11:57.24 | DaveLP | thank you |
| 11:57.28 | nsadmin | and you said before you understand the shell pretty well... you can try reading man pages of other commands, and you should do so |
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| 11:57.48 | cobra_ | does debian 4 has support for realtek ethernet cards ? |
| 11:57.55 | nsadmin | you need to start getting familiar with the power of the shell |
| 11:58.35 | nsadmin | cobra_: debian 4 is etch, and maybe. which realtek chipset specifically? |
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| 12:00.34 | brahman_ | bored at work |
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| 12:01.09 | cobra-the-joker | nsadmin , it really differs ??? |
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| 12:01.39 | nsadmin | which? debian 4? chipsets? realtek? |
| 12:01.59 | cobra-the-joker | the version of the realtek |
| 12:02.07 | nsadmin | oh yeah |
| 12:02.19 | pozic | Which file system number do I need to use if I want to use NTFS on an external harddisk? Also, is there any technical advantage of using ext3 over ntfs? Practically, I think it's more convenient to format it as NTFS, because you will always see that at some point in time I want to plug the external harddisk in the computer of someone else who doesn't have the ext3 drivers in Windows. |
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| 12:02.22 | nsadmin | chipsets can differ A LOT |
| 12:02.49 | cobra-the-joker | i will try to get the version right now |
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| 12:03.20 | nsadmin | cobra-the-joker: try lspci if you're running a unix-alike, and also try lspci -n and lspci -k |
| 12:03.21 | pozic | In fdisk, l returns NTFS volume set in two entries, with hex numbers 86 and 87. |
| 12:03.39 | cobra-the-joker | nsadmin ...i am running windows ^ ^ |
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| 12:03.48 | pozic | But that's of course kind of silly. Why use 2 numbers if they are the same? |
| 12:03.59 | pozic | So, probably they are not the same. So, what is the difference? |
| 12:04.05 | nsadmin | cobra-the-joker: do you have unpartitioned disk space? |
| 12:04.15 | cobra-the-joker | nsadmin , its 8150 S 10/100 Mbps |
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| 12:04.26 | cobra-the-joker | nsadmin , no ...every thing is partitioned |
| 12:04.44 | nsadmin | cobra-the-joker: ok, what are you looking to do? |
| 12:05.20 | cobra-the-joker | nsadmin , i am using linux right now ...and i really love it ...so i want to install it on my old machine |
| 12:05.35 | nsadmin | oh, on your old machine? |
| 12:05.46 | nsadmin | and when you say old... |
| 12:05.57 | nsadmin | err hold that thought |
| 12:05.59 | cobra-the-joker | yeah ...256 MB ram ..... 64 MB VGA |
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| 12:06.12 | themill | cobra-the-joker: the device manager can give you a PCI-Id in "Details" "Hardware Ids" |
| 12:06.13 | nsadmin | oh, that's not too bad, what cpu? |
| 12:06.15 | cobra-the-joker | 1.2 processor (32-bit ofcourse ) |
| 12:06.33 | cobra-the-joker | themill , thats what i did |
| 12:06.36 | nsadmin | that's not bad too |
| 12:06.48 | cobra-the-joker | really :D? |
| 12:07.00 | nsadmin | yeah, you won't have much problem there |
| 12:07.07 | cobra-the-joker | i just have to get internet working on the machine |
| 12:07.17 | themill | cobra-the-joker: care to share the device id with us then? It will look like PCI\VEN_1234&DEV_1234 (it's the 8 numbers that are most interesting) |
| 12:07.18 | nsadmin | what are you going to do about the disk? |
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| 12:07.41 | cobra-the-joker | i will format the windows partition C: |
| 12:07.55 | nsadmin | ok |
| 12:08.25 | nsadmin | how much space is that? is that the only thing on the drive? you are sure you're ok with erasing that? |
| 12:08.27 | cobra-the-joker | themill , the windows is cracked right now ...sorry :( |
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| 12:08.57 | cobra-the-joker | nsadmin , its not the only partition i have ....and its 5 Gb i think |
| 12:09.06 | themill | cobra-the-joker: if you don't know what the device is, there's not much we can tell you about it. |
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| 12:09.14 | ranix | is lastfm down? |
| 12:09.17 | nsadmin | that will be enough to play with |
| 12:09.19 | ranix | whoops wrong channel |
| 12:09.40 | cobra-the-joker | themill , can i get from the motherBoard settings or something ?? |
| 12:10.09 | nsadmin | you could just give it a shot |
| 12:10.12 | ranix | does the install image have lspci? |
| 12:10.21 | nsadmin | it should |
| 12:10.30 | themill | cobra-the-joker: might be easier to either stick a live cd in it or just stick the install cd in and see if it works. |
| 12:10.48 | themill | chances are it will be an 8139 chipset and that's quite well supported by etch |
| 12:10.56 | nsadmin | as long as you're ok with blowing it away |
| 12:11.04 | cobra-the-joker | ok |
| 12:11.06 | nsadmin | it should be fine |
| 12:11.10 | nsadmin | however, |
| 12:11.19 | nsadmin | you said you have other things on that drive |
| 12:11.40 | nsadmin | you sure you don't want to back those up first? you probably should. |
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| 12:12.39 | cobra-the-joker | nsadmin , i just formated it for windows |
| 12:12.45 | cobra-the-joker | and windows just got cracked |
| 12:12.49 | mosno | nice, my Lenny acpid depends on module-init-tools >= 3.1-rel-2ubuntu2 ... |
| 12:12.52 | cobra-the-joker | Windows SUUX!!! |
| 12:13.10 | nsadmin | no I mean the other partitions |
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| 12:13.40 | nsadmin | mosno: yay! |
| 12:13.41 | cobra-the-joker | yeah .i have stuff on the other partitions |
| 12:13.45 | nsadmin | I mean wtf! |
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| 12:14.06 | jelly | mosno: that's correct |
| 12:14.35 | nsadmin | jelly: debian and ubuntu are finally sharing like they should be? |
| 12:15.32 | jelly | nsadmin: couldn't really say, I just confirm that the version on my mirror have the same Depends |
| 12:15.45 | jelly | versions* |
| 12:15.54 | nsadmin | interesting |
| 12:16.17 | nsadmin | cobra-the-joker: the stuff is important? |
| 12:16.34 | nsadmin | losing the stuff is not an option? |
| 12:17.53 | cobra-the-joker | nsadmin , somehow ...yes |
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| 12:18.07 | nsadmin | you should consider backing it up |
| 12:18.23 | cobra-the-joker | ok |
| 12:18.25 | cobra-the-joker | nsadmin , i got the version of the card |
| 12:18.34 | nsadmin | oh ok, what is it? |
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| 12:18.48 | nsadmin | do you have the numbers themill were asking for? |
| 12:18.57 | nsadmin | was |
| 12:18.58 | cobra-the-joker | PCI\VEN1904&DEV_8139 |
| 12:19.10 | cobra-the-joker | shall i continue |
| 12:19.16 | themill | judd pciid 1904:8139 --release etch |
| 12:19.17 | judd | themill: [1904:8139] is 'RTL8139D [Realtek] PCI 10/100BaseTX ethernet adaptor' from 'Hangzhou Silan Microelectronics Co., Ltd.' with no known kernel module in etch but has kernel module 'set(['sc92031'])' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1904:8139 |
| 12:19.22 | nsadmin | no I think that's enough |
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| 12:20.02 | themill | that's a bit hard to believe... |
| 12:20.32 | nsadmin | you mean that an 8139 card isnt' supported in etch? |
| 12:20.42 | nsadmin | or what part is hard to believe? |
| 12:21.09 | cobra-the-joker | :( .....i think i will keep with windows then |
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| 12:21.49 | fluxdude | how do you folks automate package updates across lots of systems? Does debconf get in the way? Do you use preseeding to get around debconf? |
| 12:21.49 | themill | an 8139 card that old should definitely be supported.... |
| 12:21.55 | nsadmin | cobra-the-joker: do you see how he used the numbers to feed to judd? |
| 12:21.58 | fluxdude | Is there some central package management server that you can install? |
| 12:21.59 | themill | judd pciid 1904:8139 --release lenny |
| 12:22.01 | judd | themill: [1904:8139] is 'RTL8139D [Realtek] PCI 10/100BaseTX ethernet adaptor' from 'Hangzhou Silan Microelectronics Co., Ltd.' with kernel module 'sc92031' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1904:8139 |
| 12:22.07 | abrotman | fluxdude: you mean the questoins? or just the getting of the packages? |
| 12:22.10 | cobra-the-joker | nsadmin , yes |
| 12:22.13 | mosno | there's an ubuntu in my debian! |
| 12:22.22 | fluxdude | abrotman: the questions |
| 12:22.25 | mosno | jelly: does debian use ubuntu versioning now? |
| 12:22.28 | fluxdude | pre-seeding? |
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| 12:22.46 | mosno | jelly: or does it only matter that the dpkg-compare-versions thingy works out in our favour? |
| 12:22.46 | fluxdude | I want to be able to manage packages across lots of systems without interactivity |
| 12:22.49 | nsadmin | mosno: is it a restaurant in santa rosa, ca? |
| 12:22.59 | mosno | nsadmin: sorry? |
| 12:23.04 | abrotman | fluxdude: puppet? cfengine? |
| 12:23.29 | cobra-the-joker | so ..its working in lenny |
| 12:23.42 | nsadmin | mosno: one time a search for ubuntu yielded a restaurant in northern california |
| 12:23.55 | cobra-the-joker | i have the lenny CD right here ...but i cant use it on that old PC ...can i ? |
| 12:23.56 | jelly | mosno: the latter |
| 12:23.58 | mosno | nsadmin: were you searching from band camp? |
| 12:24.02 | mosno | jelly: ah, cool |
| 12:24.04 | fluxdude | abrotman: I use those already, but what do you do about the questions that debconf hits you with during pkg changes? |
| 12:24.22 | abrotman | fluxdude: i thought puppet could manage that ? |
| 12:24.26 | nsadmin | mosno: they didn't have internet at the band camp... |
| 12:24.30 | fluxdude | abrotman: have you used puppet for that? |
| 12:24.39 | abrotman | no |
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| 12:24.57 | fluxdude | I use puppet but apt-get install (err... sorry aptitude install) wants to ask you interactive questions does it not? |
| 12:25.05 | JyZyGyZyX | apt-file search doesn't seem to be able to find anything |
| 12:25.10 | jelly | fluxdude: that's what preseeding (the debconf's database) is all about |
| 12:25.23 | fluxdude | jelly: that's what I thought. seems a bit sucky though |
| 12:25.30 | cobra-the-joker | JyZyGyZyX , aptitude search does |
| 12:25.30 | JyZyGyZyX | even apt-file search * doesn't return anything |
| 12:25.57 | nsadmin | JyZyGyZyX: apt-file update |
| 12:26.03 | themill | JyZyGyZyX: think about what * would do in that command, btw |
| 12:26.03 | Titan8990 | apt-file search * probably reads from your directory, not all packages |
| 12:26.05 | jelly | fluxdude: also, you can configure debconf to use a noninteractive frontend and ask only critical questions |
| 12:26.07 | fluxdude | in rhel, gentoo etc the system doesn't try to get in your way like this, it just creates the new config file and saves the old one or creates the new one next to the existing one... |
| 12:26.14 | JyZyGyZyX | themill: yea well it didn't :) |
| 12:26.21 | g00se_ | search '*' ? |
| 12:26.28 | abrotman | why would you do that? |
| 12:26.28 | fluxdude | jelly: setting priority critical I guess would help... |
| 12:26.50 | fluxdude | what if the thing is going to ask questions but realizes there is no attached tty? |
| 12:26.58 | fluxdude | does it just use defaults or something? |
| 12:27.25 | nsadmin | cobra-the-joker: try it... |
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| 12:27.30 | fluxdude | what I am hoping is that package changes will be possible but only config files need be dealt with...# |
| 12:27.33 | g00se_ | abrotman: malicious bandwidth wasting? |
| 12:27.35 | jelly | fluxdude: <jelly> fluxdude: also, you can configure debconf to use a noninteractive frontend |
| 12:27.36 | fluxdude | not debconf |
| 12:27.50 | nsadmin | cobra-the-joker: you can boot and poke around a bit without altering your disk |
| 12:27.55 | abrotman | g00se_: i meant the apt-file search * |
| 12:28.03 | fluxdude | jelly: ok will try that, thx |
| 12:28.21 | g00se | abrotman: i know ;-) |
| 12:28.24 | fluxdude | I think the front end becomes non-interactive if it determines that there is no interactive session, can anyone confirm that? |
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| 12:28.42 | oxi | can anyone please tell me if this init.d script looks reasonable?: http://paste.debian.net/42377/ |
| 12:28.43 | cobra-the-joker | nsadmin , the lenny CD 1 is a liveCD |
| 12:28.47 | abrotman | g00se_: if you just wanted to list all the files .. just grab the Contents and gunzip it |
| 12:29.03 | oxi | I'm trying to start/stop tomcat automatically, but I didn't suceed yet |
| 12:29.05 | nsadmin | cobra-the-joker: and that's what you have? |
| 12:29.08 | g00se | Yes |
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| 12:29.25 | cobra-the-joker | nsadmin , i have CD 1 |
| 12:29.31 | fluxdude | one dev on forums.debian.net told me not to auto upgrade packages for some reason along these lines though a few years ago when I was doing something like a cronned apt-get upgrade -y in script. |
| 12:29.34 | abrotman | oxi: the tomcat packages come with an init script |
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| 12:29.40 | abrotman | fluxdude: cron-apt ? |
| 12:29.40 | EmleyMoor | gwsgws |
| 12:29.56 | nsadmin | I don't think that's a live cd... is that what you want? |
| 12:30.02 | oxi | abromtman: mine didn't :-( ... I was using tomcat6 backport very early |
| 12:30.03 | abrotman | oxi: i'd use the full path to the .sh |
| 12:30.14 | fluxdude | i think it was because of debconf wanting to ask you interactive questions and I'm never sure what it will do when it doesn't receive answers... |
| 12:30.18 | oxi | abrotman: yeah, that's my question, if it could work that way |
| 12:30.19 | cobra-the-joker | nsadmin , you told me to boot and try |
| 12:30.33 | EmleyMoor | I got very lagged then |
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| 12:30.50 | nsadmin | you can do that, you won't have net tho... |
| 12:30.52 | oxi | abrotman: the full path is a better option, but currently there is a lot of relative stuff to the working dir in my tomcat webapps |
| 12:31.00 | nsadmin | are you ircing from that machine? |
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| 12:31.13 | oxi | and all of that would break if I use the full path |
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| 12:31.24 | cobra-the-joker | nsadmin , no i am from my linuxBox |
| 12:31.36 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 12:31.41 | oxi | abrotman: any idea why my init.d script isn't working or how I could fix it? |
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| 12:31.49 | abrotman | oxi: which version of debian are you using for this ? |
| 12:31.55 | ims | Is it possible to put clamav into flashdisk and use that usb flashdisk to scan a standalone pc? |
| 12:31.56 | nsadmin | do you want to try the install? |
| 12:32.02 | oxi | abrotman: sarge |
| 12:32.07 | abrotman | holy jeez |
| 12:32.14 | oxi | yeah, sorry :-( |
| 12:32.14 | cobra-the-joker | nsadmin , i think i will try 4 |
| 12:32.19 | oxi | I can't switch at the moment |
| 12:32.20 | abrotman | oxi: you realize that security support for sarge ended like a year ago ? |
| 12:32.25 | cobra-the-joker | and if it doesnt work i will try 5 |
| 12:32.36 | oxi | abrotman: unfortunately, yep :-( |
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| 12:32.51 | cobra-the-joker | and if it doesnt :....i will get winows 98 or something ^ ^ |
| 12:32.53 | abrotman | oxi: you can start tomcat manually just fine ? |
| 12:32.54 | oxi | abrotman: argh, sorry, it's etch |
| 12:32.57 | nsadmin | cobra-the-joker: according to the info from your card, 4 |
| 12:32.59 | nsadmin | err |
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| 12:33.01 | oxi | Connected to server running SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9etch3 |
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| 12:33.13 | nsadmin | cobra-the-joker: according to the info from your card, 4's kernel doesn't support your card, but 5 |
| 12:33.15 | oxi | abrotman: yeah I can start it fine manually |
| 12:33.15 | nsadmin | does |
| 12:33.30 | cobra-the-joker | i will go for 5 directly then |
| 12:33.54 | abrotman | oxi: there aren't any errors in the tomcat logs ? |
| 12:33.56 | cobra-the-joker | nsadmin , thanx ...i really appreciate your time |
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| 12:34.18 | nsadmin | welcome |
| 12:34.38 | oxi | abrotman: I also did ln -s /etc/init.d/tomcat /etc/rc1.d/K99tomcat and ln -s /etc/init.d/tomcat /etc/rc2.d/S99tomcat and .... chmod 755 /etc/init.d/tomcat |
| 12:34.46 | oxi | abrotman: let me check |
| 12:34.52 | dutchfish | why, oh why is this in squeeze: http://pastebin.com/m3872fa77 |
| 12:35.23 | abrotman | dutchfish: would you like us to make nasty comments? |
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| 12:35.40 | nsadmin | whether I read the paste or not, I wouldj't be able to answer the question... |
| 12:35.53 | dutchfish | abrotman, on, but i dont want it, and will it be fixed? |
| 12:36.05 | abrotman | dutchfish: IIRC there's more than one bug about it |
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| 12:36.47 | oxi | abrotman: as tomcat does run fine for itself, I expected that I don't have to care about the logs, as it would either start or not start |
| 12:36.49 | TiMiDo | can someone help me with this error please http://pastebin.ca/1503136 |
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| 12:37.04 | dutchfish | abrotman, yes, 2 i have a workaround, but this is nasty during initial install, thats why i asked, so if i dont want it i need manaully install kde-full ....sigh |
| 12:37.16 | AlienPenguin | hi ppl, i am sorry for the dumb question but i am new to debian... i am using lenny and i'd like to know the configuration options that was given at compile time for samba |
| 12:37.29 | AlienPenguin | i.e. i'd like to know if it has been compiled with clustering support or otn |
| 12:37.45 | dutchfish | abrotman, filing a bug, well is it a bug? |
| 12:37.56 | oxi | abrotman: as I expected, there's no log created |
| 12:38.04 | oxi | so it's not even trying to start tomcat |
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| 12:38.34 | oxi | abrotman: any ideas? |
| 12:38.58 | abrotman | dutchfish: there are bugs on it .. not much point filing another unless you've got useful info |
| 12:39.23 | abrotman | oxi: try a `set -x` after the shebang in the initscript |
| 12:39.29 | JyZyGyZyX | truecrypt sure is crappy for linux |
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| 12:39.46 | oxi | abrotman: what does it do? |
| 12:40.16 | oxi | I think I don't have a shebang in the initscript |
| 12:40.23 | oxi | http://paste.debian.net/42377/ |
| 12:40.33 | abrotman | you can add one |
| 12:40.34 | EmleyMoor | oxi: I think you should |
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| 12:40.41 | abrotman | and probably at the top of your startup.sh too |
| 12:40.55 | oxi | abrotman: alright, thanks |
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| 12:41.33 | dutchfish | abrotman, can i do something like aptitude forbid-version kdepim=4:4.2.2-1 and still satisfy kde-full so it wont install the nasty tail? |
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| 12:41.54 | abrotman | dutchfish: i doubt it |
| 12:42.15 | dutchfish | abrotman, who needs a pim anyway |
| 12:42.27 | JyZyGyZyX | not many deniable encryption systems seem to exist for linux |
| 12:43.06 | oxi | abrotman: I added #!/bin/sh ... no luck |
| 12:43.22 | oxi | now I'll try your `set -x` |
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| 12:46.26 | oxi | abrotman: I did that, nothing changes |
| 12:46.28 | nsadmin | judd versions postgresql |
| 12:46.28 | judd | nsadmin: postgresql -- etch: 7.5.22 sid: 8.3.5-1 sid: 8.3.6-1 etch-backports: 8.3.7-0lenny1~bpo40+1 lenny: 8.3.7-0lenny1 squeeze: 8.3.7-1 lenny-backports: 8.4.0-1~bpo50+1 sid: 8.4.0-2 |
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| 12:46.32 | oxi | what should I notice? |
| 12:46.38 | abrotman | oxi: you're suposed to add the set -x after that |
| 12:46.54 | oxi | abrotman: yeah, that's what I did: |
| 12:47.00 | oxi | #!/bin/sh |
| 12:47.01 | oxi | set -x |
| 12:47.48 | oxi | Maybe I should mention that it's a KVM with VServer and I'm restarting it by 'reboot -f' |
| 12:47.49 | dutchfish | abrotman, nope, you are right, i gone manually build my own kde-full.... jeez |
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| 12:48.44 | oxi | But I guessed that doesn't change anyhting, that I'm doing this on a vserver |
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| 12:50.23 | oxi | abrotman: I'm lost on this |
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| 12:51.54 | donavan01 | need some help figuring how a little Arm processor based is printing ... I know its running debian 3.1 using 2.4.27 kernel ... but I cant figure out what program it is using for printing ... I need to see how it handles print jobs because when it prints reports out it screws up if it prints more than one report at a time |
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| 12:52.44 | enouf | likely lpr |
| 12:54.06 | oxi | abrotman: I tried: update-rc.d tomcat defaults |
| 12:54.11 | oxi | still no luck |
| 12:54.12 | enouf | use ps aux (or similar) - and let it show the PID changes |
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| 12:54.25 | oxi | enouf: thanks |
| 12:54.37 | enouf | not you oxi - but you're welcome |
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| 12:54.44 | enouf | :-O |
| 12:54.59 | oxi | :-D |
| 12:55.41 | enouf | donavan01: also; upgrade that server |
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| 12:55.58 | cire | I am trying to connect my Fujifilm Finepix f47fd with my deian system to copy the images. It doesn't get mounted as external volume. I googled a bit, but didn't find a solution. Does anybody have experience with those fujifilm cameras&linus? |
| 12:56.12 | cire | s/linus/linux |
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| 12:56.32 | Shtl | Hello all |
| 12:56.39 | enouf | cire: what matters is the Device/VendorID pair |
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| 12:56.55 | enouf | cire: like this; [xxxx:xxxx] |
| 12:57.09 | g00se | cire: anything in dmesg|tail ? |
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| 12:57.23 | donavan01 | enouf its not a server its a custum built little data entry box ... touchscreen interface with a custom GUI and its making me crazy .... I would love to upgrade it but it is running almost completely propritary software so as soon as I do it is sure to break something |
| 12:57.28 | enouf | cqbut mounting it, and loading a proper kernel module for it, are entirely two separate issues |
| 12:57.35 | Shtl | i am using squid proxy server and trying to block urls menstioned in text file but its not blocking any one can help me please?? |
| 12:57.49 | enouf | er s/cqbut/ cire but/ |
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| 12:58.00 | cire | enouf: WOW! I now had kde started when connecting the cam, and it told me "one action available: load images with digikam" |
| 12:58.08 | cire | there seems to be an implementation for this |
| 12:58.21 | enouf | donavan01: it doesn't matter what it is, per se; i say upgrade the sucker ;-) |
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| 12:58.53 | donavan01 | enouf I like the idea but its about 5000 dollars if screw it up |
| 12:59.06 | enouf | cire: yes, digiKam is a KDE based (or QT) application |
| 12:59.27 | enouf | donavan01: it's 10 gazillion if it get's rooted |
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| 12:59.53 | cire | I don't like the concept of having some weird standard for copying my images instead of having just a volume, but it's more than I'd expected. |
| 13:00.04 | enouf | donavan01: just my silly own take - nevermind me and all that' |
| 13:00.06 | donavan01 | well it is on a completely seperate network never touches the outside world otherwise I would be worried about it |
| 13:00.18 | enouf | then just use Windows ffs |
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| 13:00.28 | fluxdude | does anyone here actually use invoke-rc.d? |
| 13:00.29 | fluxdude | why? |
| 13:00.37 | enouf | fluxdude: scripts do |
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| 13:00.47 | enouf | and maintainers - it'srunlevel specific |
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| 13:01.01 | themill | cire: there are a lot of cameras that use PTP (picture transfer protocol) because it allows them to do things like send only a thumbail, mark images as being downloaded/new/viewed etc. |
| 13:01.08 | allure | Hi guys. I need to monitor what other people do on the server while they are using a shell (bash). I noticed that there is a app for that called "script", but I've tried to implement it on .bashrc and it forks a ton of stuff and gets the cpu load skyhigh. Anyone has a better idea for this monitoring? |
| 13:01.23 | fluxdude | why call invoke-rc.d and not just /etc/init.d/blah? |
| 13:01.31 | fluxdude | which is more portable |
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| 13:01.51 | enouf | fluxdude: same reason run-parts, and stop-start-daemon exist ... very specific |
| 13:01.54 | cire | themill: you are right, it is recognized as PTP device... It's okay for me but I'd appreciate some kind of legacy mode ;) |
| 13:02.19 | enouf | cire: try /msg dpkg automount ? |
| 13:02.23 | themill | cire: that *is* the legacy mode... most new devices do use USB mass storage now that it's fast enough |
| 13:02.30 | scream_ | cire, there is a FUSE module that mount PTP as normal FS |
| 13:02.47 | donavan01 | enouf ...let me ask this ... is there a way to capture the print job being sent to an IP printer from this little arm box using another PC so I can see what is actually being sent to the printer |
| 13:03.02 | cire | scream: cool, I'll search for it... |
| 13:03.03 | themill | cire: and digikam is excellent for managing all the photos anyway... so if you're going to use it, it doesn't matter what protocol the camera talks |
| 13:03.04 | g00se | scream_: That's a clever one |
| 13:03.11 | cire | I am using it |
| 13:03.16 | enouf | donavan01: yes, i already told you how, and there are other ways |
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| 13:03.43 | dutchfish | abrotman, http://www.mail-archive.com/sqlite-users@sqlite.org/msg27456.html |
| 13:03.46 | donavan01 | enouf must have missed that part I will read back up sorry |
| 13:03.51 | themill | fluxdude: I use invoke-rc.d all the time. It tab completes more easily. Also it supports things like a "policy" to determine if things should actually be started or not. It can (does?) also support dependencies of actions so it can work with dependency-based init schemes |
| 13:04.10 | dutchfish | abrotman, seams bullocks that they moved to mysql-server |
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| 13:04.59 | abrotman | dutchfish: i'm hardly surprised .. it's kde? |
| 13:05.14 | abrotman | oxi: the script should give you more output |
| 13:05.35 | g00se | allure: At worst, you can look at their bash history |
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| 13:06.16 | allure | g00se: I'm looking for other solutions such as screen (but with transcript somehow) or script app ^^ |
| 13:07.04 | enouf | themill: also; doesn't invoke-rc.d allow for adding/removing SNN/KNN symlinks per runlevel, as opposed to update-rc.d which would require one to list all values, for all runlevels (if not called using 'defaults', which uses S20 for everything) |
| 13:07.16 | dutchfish | abrotman, nope look at this its kpilot: http://www.mail-archive.com/sqlite-users@sqlite.org/msg27416.html |
| 13:07.29 | scream_ | allure, sometime ago i saw kernel modules that snooped on ptys |
| 13:07.29 | abrotman | dutchfish: and what ? |
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| 13:07.43 | enouf | scream_: ttysnoop |
| 13:07.43 | themill | enouf: invoke-rc.d doesn't do any changing of links that I know of. It only invokes not updates |
| 13:08.01 | themill | allure: you can use PROMPT_COMMAND to echo the command into a log file. Of course the user can always turn that off if they want |
| 13:08.05 | enouf | themill: i see - i need to delve more into it then ... thanks |
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| 13:08.24 | scream_ | enouf, yeah that's the one :) |
| 13:08.28 | dutchfish | abrotman, they could fix the sqlite bug they are expiriencing and make them decide to step over to akonadi-server wich makes use of mysql-server-5.0 |
| 13:08.34 | cire | scream_: found gphotofs which works very well! Thank you. |
| 13:08.42 | abrotman | dutchfish: could .. but haven't |
| 13:08.55 | scream_ | cire, no problem. just had the same need ;) |
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| 13:09.21 | allure | themill: I just got a really nice sugestion from Kevin` on channel Linux, using bashlogger (syslog patch for bash). Then I could use a log server and voila...! :) |
| 13:09.24 | dutchfish | abrotman, thats my point, i consider this ... at least bad practise |
| 13:10.08 | maxagaz | what is the right way to make this permanent: modprobe saa7134 card=33,33,33,33 ? |
| 13:10.29 | tarzeau | maxagaz: /etc/modules ? |
| 13:10.42 | scream_ | somebody's making a nice DVR ;) |
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| 13:11.21 | maxagaz | tarzeau, I've put this but it doesn't work (while modprobe works fine): alias char-major-81 saa7134 |
| 13:11.22 | maxagaz | options saa7134 card=33,33,33,33 |
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| 13:11.58 | enouf | er. depmod -a ? |
| 13:12.26 | abrotman | dutchfish: and i said there are already bugs filed aboutit |
| 13:13.14 | enouf | how about - does a modules.alias even exist for your kernel? |
| 13:13.31 | dutchfish | abrotman, yep, like this one (there are more) http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=535324 |
| 13:13.43 | abrotman | dutchfish: so what are you going to do about it ? |
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| 13:14.16 | maxagaz | enouf, i have a dir /etc/modprobe.d |
| 13:14.30 | dutchfish | abrotman, no sure, the best solution is that they revert back to to old version until they have fixed it, at least this shoul dnot have hit testing!!!! |
| 13:14.42 | JyZyGyZyX | err dm-crypt uses 256bit aes |
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| 13:14.48 | abrotman | dutchfish: or you could just let it install .. fix it later ? |
| 13:14.49 | JyZyGyZyX | isn't that like pretty unsecure |
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| 13:15.14 | enouf | haha @ "I want an addressbook client, not a mysql server" |
| 13:15.55 | enouf | maxagaz: how about an /etc/modules.conf or a /modprobe.conf ? |
| 13:15.59 | dutchfish | abrotman, i would ove to , but for the time, its a man with a lead legg .... as i told you, if they wont fix it i fix it myself by redoing kde-full, that snot thta hard |
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| 13:16.22 | dutchfish | abrotman, sorry for all the typos |
| 13:16.45 | maxagaz | enouf, i don't have that |
| 13:16.58 | enouf | maxagaz: still - the modules alias database is under each kernel in /lib/modules/$KERNVER/ afaict |
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| 13:18.08 | enouf | maxagaz: if you had either of the two i mentioned, they'd take precedence over whatever is in /etc/modprobe.d/ (atleast it used to be that way - likley still is, not sure) |
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| 13:19.47 | enouf | maxagaz: and then ... this is where System.map* might be an issue as well |
| 13:20.11 | abrotman | dutchfish: you oculd use gnome? :) |
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| 13:20.29 | enouf | maxagaz: (i jumped in real late to your original issue though -- missed the entire beginning) |
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| 13:21.03 | enouf | occult? |
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| 13:22.36 | maxagaz | enouf, thanks |
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| 13:25.58 | oxi | Can anyone please help me with an init.d script: http://paste.debian.net/42379/ |
| 13:26.13 | oxi | I can't get tomcat to start automatically when I do a "reboot -f" |
| 13:26.53 | oxi | Tomcat 6 runs fine when I do: cd /usr/share/tomcat/bin ... ./startup |
| 13:27.00 | oxi | argh, I mean startup.sh |
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| 13:27.33 | oxi | but I can't start it with /etc/init.d/tomcat start |
| 13:27.44 | oxi | I din't figure out yet why |
| 13:27.44 | abrotman | oxi |
| 13:27.52 | abrotman | where's your set -x ? |
| 13:28.12 | abrotman | oxi: and i said before to use the full path to the startup.sh |
| 13:28.14 | oxi | abrotman: I tried that before, but I had no luck with it, so I removed it again |
| 13:28.42 | oxi | abrotman: I can't use the full path currently, ... as many webapps are doing stuff relative to the working path |
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| 13:29.14 | abrotman | oxi: do you think the script has /usr/local/tomcat/bin/ in its $PATH ? |
| 13:29.41 | oxi | abrotman: excellent question |
| 13:29.44 | abrotman | oxi: do you think that when you call the 'sh' it inherits the CWD ? |
| 13:30.05 | oxi | yes, I assumed it inherits CWD ... |
| 13:30.12 | oxi | does it not? |
| 13:30.25 | abrotman | that's why you're debugging and not me :) |
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| 13:30.56 | oxi | abrotman: I see, but thanks a lot for pointing me to that, I think the scripts are not in the $PATH and that might be the issue |
| 13:30.59 | abrotman | you could have your startup.sh echo $PWD ? |
| 13:31.09 | oxi | I'll try sh ./startup.sh in the sript |
| 13:31.34 | MichalPenka | hello community! can anyone help with forwarding my server's local mails to my e-mail box on google? |
| 13:31.54 | oxi | abrotman: nope, hold on, ... if I do: /etc/init.d/tomcat start |
| 13:32.35 | oxi | Using CATALINA_BASE: /usr/share/tomcat6 |
| 13:32.35 | oxi | Using CATALINA_HOME: /usr/share/tomcat6 |
| 13:32.35 | oxi | ,.. |
| 13:32.47 | abrotman | oxi: i don't care if *you* do it |
| 13:32.54 | oxi | that means the startup.sh script is executing |
| 13:33.02 | abrotman | oxi: you likely have a very different environment than that initscript |
| 13:33.04 | oxi | abrotman: alright |
| 13:33.18 | \amethyst | oxi: what error do you get ? |
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| 13:33.31 | oxi | amethyst: I see no error |
| 13:33.42 | abrotman | \amethyst: when he runs it, no error, but the initscript is failing |
| 13:33.45 | oxi | the server is just not reachable via http |
| 13:33.45 | hugo | i want to have a sandbox where i can install packages and make it a mess and once it's done drop it whole. what way do you recommend to my sandbox? |
| 13:33.49 | abrotman | when run at startup |
| 13:33.56 | JyZyGyZyX | Command failed: device-mapper: reload ioctl failed: Invalid argument |
| 13:33.57 | MichalPenka | anybody? |
| 13:33.59 | JyZyGyZyX | any idea what this is about |
| 13:34.11 | MichalPenka | I use postfix |
| 13:34.13 | abrotman | MichalPenka: use a .forward or try to setup google as your smart host |
| 13:34.17 | valdyn | !chroot |
| 13:34.17 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, chroot is a way to change the root directory of a process, see also http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot |
| 13:34.25 | valdyn | hugo: ^^ |
| 13:34.29 | valdyn | !debootstrap |
| 13:34.30 | dpkg | debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a UNIX/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>. Be aware that debootstrap can't --include packages involving non-required Pre-Depends (e.g. `--include=linux-image-686' will fail), see #487908 in the <BTS>. http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
| 13:34.32 | MichalPenka | abrotman: problem is I don't know anything about postfix |
| 13:34.35 | valdyn | hugo: + ^^ |
| 13:35.06 | MichalPenka | I think the problem is I can't send anything to the world, just local mailing :/ |
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| 13:35.22 | valdyn | MichalPenka: whats wrong with google? |
| 13:35.40 | MichalPenka | valdyn: nothing :) I need send my local mails to my google box |
| 13:35.40 | valdyn | MichalPenka: maintaining your own mail servers is not easy |
| 13:35.59 | MichalPenka | valdyn: yes, I know....and that's why I'm here :( |
| 13:36.00 | hugo | valdyn: the first one was dead link |
| 13:36.37 | valdyn | hugo: i bet wikipedia can tell you what a chroot is |
| 13:37.07 | abrotman | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch09.en.html#_chroot_system |
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| 13:37.19 | hugo | valdyn: i know what it is |
| 13:37.23 | hugo | abrotman: thx |
| 13:37.31 | valdyn | hugo: alright, then you dont need that link anyway |
| 13:37.35 | hugo | valdyn: thought you might want to fix the link |
| 13:37.50 | abrotman | !chroot |
| 13:37.50 | dpkg | a way to change the root directory of a process, see also http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch09.en.html#_chroot_system |
| 13:37.51 | abrotman | fixed |
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| 13:38.18 | hugo | abrotman: good. |
| 13:39.21 | themill | abrotman: err... not fixed. Should be http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch09.en.html#_chroot_system |
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| 13:39.21 | valdyn | MichalPenka: you need postfix to send to a smarthost and on top of that configure the authentication |
| 13:39.21 | abrotman | themill: it does work ? |
| 13:39.21 | MichalPenka | valdyn: what is smarthost? |
| 13:39.21 | themill | nfm |
| 13:39.21 | valdyn | MichalPenka: "dpkg-reconfigure postfix" |
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| 13:39.22 | abrotman | themill: reference and debian-reference are symlinks ? |
| 13:39.22 | valdyn | MichalPenka: and the authentication is explained in /usr/share/doc/postfix iirc |
| 13:39.23 | themill | abrotman: 403 forbidden |
| 13:39.28 | abrotman | for woh ? |
| 13:39.31 | abrotman | or which |
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| 13:39.55 | MichalPenka | valdyn: so that means that postfix uses another smtp server for outgoing mail? |
| 13:39.56 | themill | abrotman: for the URL that "/msg dpkg chroot" gives |
| 13:40.03 | abrotman | themill: both work here |
| 13:40.05 | valdyn | MichalPenka: yes |
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| 13:40.12 | MichalPenka | valdyn: great |
| 13:40.17 | MichalPenka | that's exactly what I need |
| 13:40.17 | hugo | valdyn: hell, this is damn good. |
| 13:40.24 | valdyn | hugo: yep |
| 13:40.41 | themill | abrotman: not here. We were seeing this the other day... something about geo-ip on www.debian.org now giving fun with syncing or something |
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| 13:41.22 | abrotman | themill: let's go lart #debian-www :) |
| 13:41.27 | themill | abrotman: .fr. works, .uk. and .us. don't. (for me) |
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| 13:42.09 | __neo__ | hi guys |
| 13:42.12 | abrotman | themill: it hates you ? |
| 13:42.23 | __neo__ | I've just crashed my ssh daemon on my server |
| 13:42.23 | enouf | wtf is the terminology called for when fools use a http://.../.../#something to jump to that (_something_) part of a certain html page? I used to think it was ASP heh |
| 13:42.28 | abrotman | themill: so it's a bum mirror ? |
| 13:42.37 | abrotman | enouf: anchor tag IIRC |
| 13:42.38 | __neo__ | is there any way to connect to it without the ssh daemon? |
| 13:42.47 | hugo | valdyn: does it has to be on root directory? |
| 13:42.54 | themill | abrotman: seems to. Also hugo though as he reported it as broken too |
| 13:43.03 | abrotman | themill: the original one was broken |
| 13:43.11 | abrotman | themill: the one that valdyn triggered |
| 13:43.15 | __neo__ | are there any services that run on debian that I can use to connect to? |
| 13:43.18 | enouf | abrotman: well, that kind of shit is severely broken in some browsers - and likely shouldn't be used or _standardized_ if it is |
| 13:43.19 | abrotman | i've altered it since then |
| 13:43.28 | __neo__ | I'd like to restart the server |
| 13:43.35 | abrotman | enouf: i think links2 works with it ? |
| 13:43.35 | enouf | abrotman: not to blame you ; mind you ;-) |
| 13:43.42 | hugo | themill: it was. |
| 13:43.45 | abrotman | and probably w3m |
| 13:44.20 | enouf | abrotman: yes, mostly, but i guess it's specific pages, and the way they are coded that's horribly broken - oh well ... that's expected |
| 13:44.31 | abrotman | file bugs! |
| 13:44.32 | __neo__ | please give me any idea :) |
| 13:44.39 | __neo__ | I don't know what to do |
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| 13:44.52 | __neo__ | I don't have physical access to that server |
| 13:45.03 | themill | hugo: broken == 404 not found or broken == 403 forbidden? |
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| 13:45.18 | abrotman | themill: the first was 404 |
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| 13:45.29 | Eternal_Sin | hi everyone! |
| 13:45.29 | themill | abrotman: no, the first was 404 for you. It's 403 for me. |
| 13:45.30 | abrotman | themill: this one http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot |
| 13:45.39 | abrotman | themill: big pile of awesome! |
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| 13:45.58 | __neo__ | is ssh the only way to connect to my server? |
| 13:46.07 | TPC | anyone know of any fun linux games that can use a gamepad? |
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| 13:46.23 | enouf | themill: abrotman FWIW, _both_ /debian-reference/ and /reference/ go to the exact same place here (using sid's links2) |
| 13:46.32 | TPC | I've finished supertux, and looking for something else to keep me entertained |
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| 13:46.54 | abrotman | enouf: yeah .. for me too |
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| 13:46.58 | Eternal_Sin | I'm having some troubles with debian :\ |
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| 13:47.02 | themill | enouf: it's not a browser issue. |
| 13:47.04 | abrotman | Eternal_Sin: just ask |
| 13:47.11 | enouf | abrotman: you don't use such non-Bloat! |
| 13:47.17 | enouf | hides |
| 13:47.19 | __neo__ | no ideas about the ssh issue? |
| 13:47.24 | abrotman | enouf: i meant about the links |
| 13:47.35 | enouf | abrotman: i meant about the browser :-p |
| 13:47.39 | donavan01 | enouf.... can you tell me if any of these are the printing process I looked at them but to be honest I dont know what exactly what im looking for http://pastebin.org/3561 |
| 13:47.40 | hugo | themill: try yourself http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot |
| 13:47.42 | enouf | themill: ok |
| 13:48.12 | abrotman | enouf: i know what you meant |
| 13:48.15 | Eternal_Sin | well, there is a process called Artsd (from ALSA) that is overflowing my RAM |
| 13:48.16 | __neo__ | anybody there? |
| 13:48.34 | enouf | IIRC, the #reportbug or similar tag is broken in the Installation Guide (or was, around Etch) |
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| 13:48.57 | __neo__ | without ssh, any way to connect to a debian server? |
| 13:49.14 | Eternal_Sin | Artsd stars one and another time untill my RAM is full :\ I end the process with pkill artsd but in 10 seconds it starts again |
| 13:49.25 | themill | hugo: no, I need to know what *you* find because I am seeing different errors to other people in the channel. |
| 13:49.49 | hugo | themill: 404 notfound |
| 13:49.52 | themill | thanks |
| 13:49.59 | Eternal_Sin | any idea? |
| 13:50.37 | __neo__ | any idea? |
| 13:50.48 | hugo | valdyn: debootstrap is handy but it took some time to set up. can i make this quick? |
| 13:50.57 | __neo__ | pls..guys, anything is good for me :) |
| 13:51.10 | __neo__ | I just need access to my server without ssh |
| 13:51.19 | enouf | donavan01: no, i can't tell from that - but i don't like the looks of some of those processes - and it's not any of the bracketed [kernel-related] ones |
| 13:51.25 | abrotman | __neo__: unless you can break in, have someone with physical access reboot it |
| 13:51.57 | __neo__ | abrotman: so there aren't any other daemons that I can connect to? |
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| 13:52.12 | enouf | donavan01: not to mention, that's an extremely sparse post - that's not a ps aux{f} nor pstree -lunap output |
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| 13:52.15 | Eternal_Sin | Artsd stars one and another time untill my RAM is full :\ I end the process with pkill artsd but in 10 seconds it starts again, any idea? |
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| 13:52.21 | enouf | also - no users are listed |
| 13:52.23 | __neo__ | because I don't have physical access - the server is at home and nobody's home :D |
| 13:52.49 | enouf | (except root, obviously - which is nuts, for printing) |
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| 13:53.28 | donavan01 | enouf ... when I run "ps aux" I dont get anything back and pstree doesnt exist ... I think the manufacturer may have stripped this thing down a little too much |
| 13:53.34 | themill | abrotman: if I proxy through .au then the URL works. I'm going for the uk mirror not having symlinks enabled. |
| 13:53.51 | enouf | Eternal_Sin: not sure - and BTW. which kde version? |
| 13:54.16 | joltcan | __neo__: no, there is no other default way of connecting to your server. |
| 13:54.19 | Eternal_Sin | O.o I'm not using KDE |
| 13:54.20 | enouf | Eternal_Sin: i've seen some sort of "ksmserver artsd..." kind of command somewhere |
| 13:54.31 | enouf | Eternal_Sin: huh? |
| 13:54.39 | abrotman | themill: BUG TIME! |
| 13:54.44 | enouf | Eternal_Sin: artsd is KDE's sound server |
| 13:54.49 | joltcan | __neo__: Also, ssh crashing is something very, very unlikely, so I guess you have bigger problems then that |
| 13:54.59 | enouf | !artsd |
| 13:54.59 | dpkg | methinks artsd is the much maligned soundserver of the much maligned analog Real time synthesizer |
| 13:55.05 | themill | abrotman: bugging #debian-www as we speak |
| 13:55.06 | abrotman | (sung to the cheesy Batman theme (the one with Adam West)) |
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| 13:55.13 | __neo__ | joltcan: actually I ran killall sshd :D |
| 13:55.24 | __neo__ | and then everything went offline :D |
| 13:55.30 | __neo__ | damn!! |
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| 13:55.48 | enouf | Eternal_Sin: as root ; lsof | egrep 'arts|esd|pulse|flash' heh |
| 13:55.48 | Eternal_Sin | enouf I use fluxbox O.o |
| 13:56.08 | Eternal_Sin | wait here |
| 13:56.11 | __neo__ | joltcan, abrotman: thanks anyway! |
| 13:56.15 | enouf | Eternal_Sin: aptitude purge kde ? :-P |
| 13:56.19 | enouf | runs |
| 13:56.21 | hugo | debootstrap still running. so slow |
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| 13:57.45 | hugo | no way to debootstrap from an image file? |
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| 13:58.16 | hugo | that way i dont have to retrieve whole debian system from mirrrr |
| 13:58.56 | JyZyGyZyX | root 32175 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S< 04:26 0:00 [loop1] |
| 13:59.02 | JyZyGyZyX | even kill -9 didn't kill that |
| 13:59.16 | valdyn | JyZyGyZyX: you cannot kill that |
| 13:59.22 | JyZyGyZyX | why not |
| 13:59.28 | JyZyGyZyX | its causing problems |
| 13:59.29 | valdyn | JyZyGyZyX: because its not a process |
| 13:59.31 | JyZyGyZyX | sudo losetup -d /dev/loop1 |
| 13:59.33 | JyZyGyZyX | ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy |
| 13:59.54 | valdyn | JyZyGyZyX: duh |
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| 14:00.18 | JyZyGyZyX | stupid truecrypt jammed it in there real hard |
| 14:00.19 | JPT | everything in [] is kernel-stuff |
| 14:00.36 | valdyn | JyZyGyZyX: losetup -a will probably show why its in use |
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| 14:01.01 | JyZyGyZyX | valdyn: yea it shows the file |
| 14:01.01 | stew | JyZyGyZyX: that is part of your kernel, you don't want to kill your kernel |
| 14:01.05 | enouf | JyZyGyZyX: stop trying to remove/delete mount points in use |
| 14:01.19 | JyZyGyZyX | how do i unuse it |
| 14:01.36 | valdyn | JyZyGyZyX: [] is kernel threads. Thats only similar to a process, its not a process, so you cannot send signals to it |
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| 14:01.40 | enouf | JyZyGyZyX: losetup -d without any /mnt/point should do the correct thing, IIRC |
| 14:02.03 | JyZyGyZyX | no it requires the loop_device |
| 14:02.12 | valdyn | losetup -d /dev/loop1 |
| 14:02.19 | JyZyGyZyX | sudo losetup -d /dev/loop1ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Device or resource busy |
| 14:02.32 | valdyn | JyZyGyZyX: because its mounted |
| 14:02.39 | valdyn | JyZyGyZyX: or used in some other way |
| 14:02.40 | JyZyGyZyX | not acording to 'mount' |
| 14:02.45 | enouf | crap - /me hasn't had to man losetup in a long time |
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| 14:03.41 | enouf | JyZyGyZyX: lsof and fuser are your friends |
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| 14:04.06 | JyZyGyZyX | i did sudo lsof | grep loop1 |
| 14:04.15 | JyZyGyZyX | [loop1] is the only thing using it |
| 14:04.31 | enouf | wrong grep |
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| 14:04.38 | valdyn | loop1 isnt using it |
| 14:04.52 | valdyn | [loop1] IS /dev/loop1 |
| 14:04.59 | enouf | heh |
| 14:05.15 | valdyn | ..simplyfied |
| 14:05.26 | Eternal_Sin | enouf, purge kde? |
| 14:05.35 | enouf | s/y/i/ .. just a fwiw |
| 14:05.42 | JyZyGyZyX | /dev/loop1: [0900]:63012883 (/home/foo/random.dmp) |
| 14:05.59 | cognitiaclaeves | I got a message this morning that / is nearly full. I intend to free up more space, but I'd like to delete something that can be replaced that is taking up space, in the meantime. /var/cache/apt looks like a good candidate. How do i flush those files? |
| 14:06.07 | valdyn | JyZyGyZyX: good, now check whats using /home/foo/random.dmp |
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| 14:06.12 | JyZyGyZyX | valdyn: nothing |
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| 14:06.26 | enouf | Eternal_Sin: if i had artsd laying about and not using anything KDE, i'd likely go bonkers .. then yes; purge the crap out of it -- actually /msg dpkg remove kde |
| 14:06.28 | valdyn | JyZyGyZyX: reboot |
| 14:06.36 | JyZyGyZyX | yea i knew it would come down to that |
| 14:06.40 | cognitiaclaeves | That's /var/cache/apt/archives, that is, on etch, I think. |
| 14:06.59 | JyZyGyZyX | damn truecrypt to hell |
| 14:07.07 | valdyn | cognitiaclaeves: aptitude clean |
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| 14:07.23 | Eternal_Sin | enouf I only use Amarok from kde |
| 14:07.57 | enouf | cognitiaclaeves: i think you can use autoclean .. but there are other options, depending on which /dirs/ you have as separate partitions, and such |
| 14:08.21 | enouf | Eternal_Sin: that's KDE :-p |
| 14:08.22 | cognitiaclaeves | enouf: I only have /home as a separate partition. |
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| 14:08.28 | cognitiaclaeves | valdyn: Thanks. :) |
| 14:08.36 | enouf | cognitiaclaeves: then localepurge will also help |
| 14:08.43 | Eternal_Sin | enouf In that case what can i use to listen music? |
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| 14:08.52 | cognitiaclaeves | enouf: localpurge? For apt? |
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| 14:09.50 | enouf | cognitiaclaeves: i use apt-get autoclean .. also, you can remove /usr/share/doc/* for temporary room as well - but .. you should cp it somewhere prior |
| 14:10.08 | enouf | cognitiaclaeves: apt-cache show .... |
| 14:10.09 | Eternal_Sin | enouf I've found this apt-get remove --purge arts could be valid? |
| 14:10.35 | enouf | Eternal_Sin: no idea - i purged all that crap some time ago - use the -s option |
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| 14:11.04 | enouf | Eternal_Sin: the "apt-get remove --purge " part is valid, yes |
| 14:11.11 | Eternal_Sin | enouf xD |
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| 14:11.38 | cognitiaclaeves | aptitude clean has given me some breathing room. Thanks. :) |
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| 14:11.46 | Eternal_Sin | enouf I use Knetworkmanager, any alternative? |
| 14:11.47 | enouf | Eternal_Sin: i don't think you can siphon off arts{d} from KDE the way it's pkg'd in Debian atleast |
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| 14:11.57 | enouf | Eternal_Sin: that's KDE :-p |
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| 14:12.13 | enouf | Eternal_Sin: sure - wicd, et al |
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| 14:13.05 | Eternal_Sin | enouf, well, is time to remove kde... |
| 14:13.07 | themill | Eternal_Sin: there's also network-manager-gnome that presents a similar interface to knetworkmanager |
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| 14:13.21 | Eternal_Sin | ok thanks :) |
| 14:13.28 | themill | Eternal_Sin: if you have kcontrol installed, you can tell it to never use artsd anyway. |
| 14:14.07 | Eternal_Sin | when i try to deactivate it, kcontrol crashes |
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| 14:14.27 | themill | that's really odd... never seen anything like that before. Seems arts really hates you |
| 14:14.47 | enouf | themill: kcontrol is kde 3.x.x related, no? oh duh, right - Phonon is the kde4 one anyways |
| 14:14.55 | themill | yep |
| 14:15.18 | enouf | Eternal_Sin: might want to close any open apps that might be using it prior |
| 14:15.28 | enouf | Eternal_Sin: then restart your kde session :-p |
| 14:15.29 | themill | !list alsa users |
| 14:15.29 | dpkg | To see what processes are using (and perhaps blocking) your sound device: ps `lsof +D /dev -F rt | awk '/^p/ {pid=$1} /^t/ {type=$1} /^r0x74..$/ && type == "tCHR" {print pid} /^r0xe..$/ && type == "tCHR" {print pid}' | cut -c 2- | uniq`. Alternatively, fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp /dev/mixer |
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| 14:16.02 | Eternal_Sin | enouf I restarted kde, how can i deactivate arts? |
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| 14:16.31 | enouf | as themill mentioned |
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| 14:17.02 | oxi | I did update-rc.d tomcat defaults |
| 14:17.08 | oxi | which set 5 symlinks |
| 14:17.11 | Eternal_Sin | enouf but I don't know how |
| 14:17.14 | oxi | how can I remove those again? |
| 14:17.38 | oxi | is there a reverse command for update-rc.d tomcat defaults? |
| 14:17.48 | enouf | crap -- i forgot to reEnable my Onboard sound and remove this silly emu10k soundblaster dell crap card when i rebooted last .. alsamixer is horribly broken |
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| 14:18.26 | enouf | makes a list of "things to do" |
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| 14:18.45 | nsadmin | can you resize an ext3 while it's mounted? |
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| 14:18.59 | nsadmin | I want to resize my / |
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| 14:19.10 | enouf | oxi: you can just rm the symlinks, but i prefer update-rc.d -f remove blah |
| 14:19.23 | enouf | oxi: actually, i prefer rcconf |
| 14:19.28 | oxi | enouf: thanks! |
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| 14:19.33 | __neo__ | if a file has Write permissions by Others, am I able to write to it from outside the server? |
| 14:19.36 | Eternal_Sin | themill, How can I deactivate artsd in kcontroll? I have removed it but still appearing in conky |
| 14:19.45 | enouf | nsadmin: in some cases, yes |
| 14:19.54 | nsadmin | __neo__: Others means users on the same machine |
| 14:19.57 | enouf | nsadmin: man resize2fs for starters |
| 14:20.07 | oxi | update-rc.d -f remove tomcat |
| 14:20.07 | oxi | update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/remove: file does not exist |
| 14:20.10 | oxi | hmm |
| 14:20.19 | enouf | oxi: man the friggin man page! |
| 14:20.29 | oxi | true, srry |
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| 14:20.55 | nsadmin | man man? |
| 14:21.03 | petemc | man man, man |
| 14:21.04 | oxi | enouf: man which one? |
| 14:21.06 | oxi | man update-rd.d |
| 14:21.07 | oxi | No manual entry for update-rd.d |
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| 14:21.10 | Eternal_Sin | enouf, How can I deactivate artsd in kcontroll? I have removed it but still appearing in conky |
| 14:21.12 | enouf | haha |
| 14:21.26 | JPT | how about going into the kde control center, deactivating kde sound system? |
| 14:21.32 | nsadmin | miss pell: you've misspelled |
| 14:21.34 | petemc | oxi: take your time and read what you're typing |
| 14:21.36 | enouf | Eternal_Sin: dude ... you're on your own man |
| 14:21.37 | jelly | nsadmin: you can. But do you have extra space on the block device the filesystem is on? |
| 14:21.52 | nsadmin | yeah, I lvmd it |
| 14:21.54 | jelly | nsadmin: that means the partition |
| 14:22.00 | jelly | or, carry on then |
| 14:22.05 | jelly | oh* |
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| 14:22.14 | oxi | petemc: alright |
| 14:22.17 | Eternal_Sin | enouf I'm gonna purge this s*** kde is getting me insane |
| 14:22.26 | enouf | !attaboy Eternal_Sin |
| 14:22.33 | nsadmin | so if I do this resize, will it assume the current partition size as default? |
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| 14:22.58 | oxi | petemc: yeah, stupid typo, you're right, thanks |
| 14:23.25 | nsadmin | the least kde could have done was give postgres as a choice |
| 14:23.56 | Eternal_Sin | enouf I'm gonna try to upgrade my kde version |
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| 14:24.37 | enouf | Eternal_Sin: you better brace yourself ... |
| 14:25.17 | nsadmin | Eternal_Sin: unless you compile it yourself you're in for stuff |
| 14:25.26 | Eternal_Sin | enouf, This is insane... |
| 14:25.35 | enouf | if you think things are not working smoothly for you now ... hah! |
| 14:25.39 | nsadmin | hmm, if you compile it yourself you're also in for stuff |
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| 14:26.02 | Eternal_Sin | nsadmin I thouht that there wrere backports of kde 4 for lenny |
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| 14:26.19 | nsadmin | there might be... |
| 14:26.36 | nsadmin | if there are, then youi're only sorta in for stuff :) |
| 14:26.38 | pozic | When I run gparted to delete a partition I get: Partition map has no partition map entry! |
| 14:26.43 | oxi | apt-get install autoconf .... |
| 14:26.45 | oxi | Err http://ftp.de.debian.org stable/main perl-modules 5.8.8-7etch4 |
| 14:26.46 | oxi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:26.51 | oxi | any ideas how to fix this? |
| 14:26.55 | nsadmin | autotools? |
| 14:27.05 | Eternal_Sin | nsadmin next time I will use netinst xD |
| 14:27.12 | pozic | I just want to format a disk to one partition with NTFS. How hard can that be? |
| 14:27.18 | oxi | nsadmin: nope, autoconf |
| 14:27.20 | enouf | pozic: try ##windows |
| 14:27.24 | pozic | It appears that all the GUI tools are simply broken. |
| 14:27.32 | enouf | oxi: autoconf has versions |
| 14:27.42 | oxi | enouf: I see, thanks! |
| 14:27.44 | pozic | enouf: no, this is on Debian. |
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| 14:27.44 | enouf | oxi: try tab completion for starters |
| 14:27.45 | nsadmin | oxi: oh, try apt-get update |
| 14:27.57 | oxi | nsadmin: I did |
| 14:28.13 | pozic | enouf: and unfortunately, it is easier to use NTFS from Linux than EXT3 on Windows. |
| 14:28.17 | enouf | pozic: Linux doesn't like Redmond FSTypes :-p |
| 14:28.21 | nsadmin | and stillno perl modules? |
| 14:28.31 | oxi | enouf: no tab completion for apt get insall autoconf ... for me |
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| 14:28.37 | enouf | s/Linux/Tux!/ :-) |
| 14:28.39 | pozic | enouf: I will just use fdisk then. |
| 14:28.58 | joltcan | pozic: cfdisk is nice |
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| 14:29.07 | pozic | But imho, such non-functional software should just be deleted from the repositories. It gives Debian a bad name. |
| 14:29.33 | oxi | apt-get install autoconf2.13 |
| 14:29.38 | oxi | ... same error |
| 14:29.47 | pozic | There is no QA in Debian. Nobody to say that something just sucks too much not to include it. That's the real reason year * is not the year of the Linux desktop. |
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| 14:30.21 | Eternal_Sin | enouf, kde4 uses artsd or pulseaudio? |
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| 14:30.50 | enouf | oxi: http://pastebin.org/pastebin.php?dl=3567 |
| 14:30.55 | enouf | any more questions? |
| 14:31.00 | Eternal_Sin | enouf, kde4 uses artsd or pulseaudio? |
| 14:31.03 | Eternal_Sin | :P |
| 14:31.14 | enouf | Eternal_Sin: Phonon, iinm |
| 14:31.29 | enouf | Eternal_Sin: do some googling or something - like try #kde |
| 14:31.47 | Eternal_Sin | ok thanks for all ;) |
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| 14:31.58 | pozic | joltcan: yes, it is, but what is the diference between numbers 07 and 86 and 87 as file system type? |
| 14:32.09 | oxi | enouf: that rocks, thanks! |
| 14:32.20 | oxi | enouf: may I have a look at your sources.rc? |
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| 14:32.25 | pozic | joltcan: 07 is H<something>/NTFS and the others are both NTFS volume set. |
| 14:32.30 | oxi | I mean sources.list |
| 14:32.31 | enouf | pozic: there is no "Desktop" .. it's a figment of redmond imagination |
| 14:32.51 | pozic | enouf: I know, there are a gazillion different configurations. |
| 14:32.58 | enouf | oxi: i'm running sid - not recommended ;-) |
| 14:33.14 | oxi | enouf: true, thanks anyway! |
| 14:33.22 | oxi | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.backports.org etch-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.backports.org_debian_dists_etch-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 14:33.58 | pozic | Anyway, I just want to know which number is a "normal" NTFS partition type. I suspect it is 07. |
| 14:34.07 | enouf | hrm ... oxi - you recently removed stuff from /var/* ? |
| 14:34.10 | oxi | hmm, there's some gpg errors again |
| 14:34.13 | enouf | oxi: manually? |
| 14:34.20 | enouf | !new archive key |
| 14:34.20 | dpkg | If you have fallen behind with your updates, then you may be getting this warning from apt-get update: "W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: 9AA38DCD55BE302B". Install the debian-archive-keyring package to load the new key or manually load the new key using apt-key after verifying that it has been correctly signed. Ask me about <secure apt> <apt-key 55BE302B>. |
| 14:34.26 | oxi | enouf: nope, not really, I didn't fiddle at all |
| 14:34.36 | oxi | W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B |
| 14:34.36 | oxi | W: GPG error: http://ftp.de.debian.org stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B NO_PUBKEY 4D270D06F42584E6 |
| 14:34.46 | enouf | oxi: you ran aptitude clean or somesuch? or was that not you? |
| 14:34.59 | enouf | oxi: look up at waht dpkg mentioned |
| 14:35.00 | oxi | I remeber fixing a gpg error a few months ago, but now again :-( |
| 14:35.20 | enouf | pozic: cfdisk has a nice listing |
| 14:35.21 | oxi | enouf: I might have run clean a half a year ago, yes |
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| 14:35.34 | enouf | pozic: i think under [Type] IIRC |
| 14:35.49 | oxi | aptitude clean didn't help |
| 14:35.59 | pozic | enouf: yes, I am already talking about the list. It's not a surjective function, IIRC. |
| 14:36.04 | enouf | feels alone ... |
| 14:36.10 | pozic | enouf: two keys map to the same thing. |
| 14:36.15 | henry-nicolas | Hello everybody, I would like to do firewall conntrack syncing using ct_sync and Debian, could anybody told me how to use ct_sync under debian ? |
| 14:36.33 | pozic | enouf: so, 86 and 87 both map to NTFS volume set. |
| 14:36.54 | enouf | pozic: i've never seen 86 and 87 used for any NTFS partition ID |
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| 14:37.08 | pozic | enouf: ok, then it is HPFS/NTFS which is 07. |
| 14:37.12 | enouf | pozic: but then again, i never use NTFS ;-) |
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| 14:37.34 | enouf | yes, that sounds more likely |
| 14:37.47 | pozic | enouf: I only use it to be "compatible with the rest of the world". |
| 14:38.05 | enouf | pozic: i hate to be homogenized |
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| 14:39.55 | pozic | enouf: it is just more efficient to just plugin a device than to explain someone not in the know that this is a Linux file system and requires extra drivers to work. |
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| 14:41.39 | enouf | pozic: the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, yet expecting different results |
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| 14:42.20 | enouf | now do you see why i say; "i hate to be homogenized" ? :-) |
| 14:42.40 | pozic | enouf: not really, but I admit that I had to lookup that word. |
| 14:42.52 | enouf | pozic: think of Milk :-p |
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| 14:44.12 | Ezep | Hi debian lovely users :-) |
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| 14:45.38 | Ezep | Well, my problem is that I'm using an oldie PC with Sis 6326 graphic card, when I (like debian always allow) do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to configure xorg, I see that there are few options to configure, and it makes an ugly short xorg.conf |
| 14:46.01 | Ezep | So, WTF is happening to xorg? forgetting old hardware? :| |
| 14:46.01 | pozic | enouf: I think I get it. |
| 14:46.02 | enouf | Ezep: /msg dpkg drxx |
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| 14:46.29 | enouf | Ezep: since Lenny, it's mostly autoconfigured now |
| 14:46.45 | pozic | Why are TNT2 cards not supported anymore with the same features that were available when the card was released? |
| 14:46.49 | enouf | Ezep: xorg.conf will override the defaults though still |
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| 14:46.55 | pozic | Do they just want you to buy a new one? |
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| 14:47.17 | enouf | pozic: erm, i have a riva tnt2 pro - which features? |
| 14:47.37 | pozic | enouf: basically, I just want to run Google Earth on it. |
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| 14:47.52 | enouf | (though i replaced it with a geforce400 or something) |
| 14:48.06 | enouf | pozic: you need 3D drivers for that? |
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| 14:48.11 | pozic | enouf: yes |
| 14:48.16 | enouf | !nvidia |
| 14:48.16 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
| 14:48.26 | Ezep | enouf: but, I don't have the possibility to disallow modules, and things like it? :( |
| 14:48.29 | pozic | enouf: I already tried that months ago. |
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| 14:48.35 | Ezep | Or to configure resolution? (!) |
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| 14:48.46 | pozic | enouf: the problem is that it says " falling back to legacy AGP-1.0 mode" or something like that. |
| 14:48.49 | enouf | pozic: i've installed and used the 3D drivers at one time and used it with that TNT2 card |
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| 14:48.57 | pozic | enouf: it does that for no reason at all. |
| 14:49.11 | jthan | Does anyone know when the Debian installer will be ported to the sheevaplug and is in a usable state? |
| 14:49.14 | pozic | enouf: they just made the drivers lose features. |
| 14:49.35 | pozic | enouf: I know that when the card was new the drivers worked. |
| 14:49.38 | enouf | pozic: that's a somewhat separate issue, IINM, perhaps /proc/mtrr related, or something with the module options ... i foirget now offhand |
| 14:49.54 | abrotman | jthan: there are instructoins for installing on the plug already |
| 14:50.13 | pozic | enouf: so, you think that with a newer Debian it should be possible to get Google Earth to work? |
| 14:50.18 | jthan | abrotman: The ones I read were to install to USB and boot to it from the plug, do you know of further instructions that actually get the install onto the flash? |
| 14:50.20 | pozic | enouf: (without buying a new card) |
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| 14:50.43 | yitz_ | Is there away to prevent wtmp or lastlog from being updated on a login? |
| 14:50.49 | enouf | pozic: then maybe you know more about it than i - try your Aperture settings in BIOS too - and if you're on X86_64/amd64, look into boot-options.txt |
| 14:51.09 | abrotman | jthan: http://planet.debian.org/cgi-bin/search.cgi?terms=sheeva .. Martin has posted a bunch of stuff about it .. nto sure if that's what you've read already |
| 14:51.25 | abrotman | jthan: so has Marco |
| 14:51.29 | jthan | abrotman: Nope - I didn't check any debian docs or anything. I have been going off of www.plugcomputer.org |
| 14:51.36 | pozic | enouf: oh, I didn't know about boot-options.txt, but it is a 64 bits kernel, yes. |
| 14:51.38 | jthan | abrotman: thanks for the link. |
| 14:51.43 | Ezep | enouf: I know I ugly, but I think i'm not totally wrong :/ |
| 14:51.48 | enouf | pozic: heh, i snatch cards like that and much better off the curbside computers that people toss when they throw theirs out :-) |
| 14:52.12 | abrotman | jthan: if you're so inclined .. you could create a page on wiki.debian.org with more well defined instructions |
| 14:52.18 | enouf | pozic: it's under /Documentation/x86/x86_64/ IIRC |
| 14:52.28 | pozic | enouf: found it |
| 14:52.37 | jthan | abrotman: I'll consider. I want to try to go through the install process first and I can document it, if it will be helpful to enough people. |
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| 14:52.51 | pozic | I think it is just silly to get new hardware when the old still functions. |
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| 14:53.29 | enouf | pozic: tried other kernels? .. oh . duh, you need separate kernel modules for each -- heh |
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| 14:53.54 | Sazpaimon | Im beginning to suspect that one of my 2 hard drives in my RAID array is going bad (processes in endless disk sleep), what would be the best method of finding out which one it is |
| 14:53.58 | enouf | pozic: indeed - if the old stuff does it's job, then use it, i say |
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| 14:54.08 | Sazpaimon | keep in mind this is a remote server, I don't have physical access |
| 14:54.12 | Ezep | Sazpaimon: deadblocks |
| 14:54.44 | abrotman | Sazpaimon: is it hardware raid ? |
| 14:54.50 | Sazpaimon | abrotman, no, mdadm |
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| 14:55.02 | Sazpaimon | Ezep, never heard of it, got a link? |
| 14:55.14 | enouf | Sazpaimon: cat /proc/mdstat ? |
| 14:55.39 | Sazpaimon | enouf, both hard drives show up as U on all partitions |
| 14:55.41 | enouf | Sazpaimon: smartmontools ? |
| 14:56.22 | jelly | Sazpaimon: dmesg showing which tasks are hung? |
| 14:56.25 | enouf | Sazpaimon: anything (errors) in dmesg? or /var/log/* ? |
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| 14:56.37 | Sazpaimon | jelly, its usually apache |
| 14:56.44 | Sazpaimon | and no, no errors in /var/log that I can see |
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| 14:56.57 | Ezep | Sazpaimon: actually, I don't remember the tool to scan the disk to see deadblocks :S |
| 14:56.58 | Sazpaimon | I'm in a rescue console now so I can have unadulterated access to the drives |
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| 14:57.20 | jelly | Sazpaimon: did you reboot? |
| 14:57.22 | enouf | Ezep: badblocks? |
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| 14:57.39 | Sazpaimon | jelly, i rebooted into rescue mode |
| 14:57.46 | Sazpaimon | it loads the OS into RAM |
| 14:57.49 | enouf | Ezep: or .. do you mean something like iotop? |
| 14:58.02 | Ezep | Yeap, maybe the disk is with deadblocks |
| 14:58.15 | Ezep | Nopes, agr, I cannot remember the tool :/ |
| 14:58.19 | jelly | Sazpaimon: eh. If there's nothing in /var/log/kern.log and the md arrays look sane, it could be you hit something else |
| 14:58.19 | Sazpaimon | jelly, i neeeded to reboot every time this happens |
| 14:58.20 | enouf | dead != bad! |
| 14:58.22 | enouf | :-P |
| 14:58.27 | Ezep | d'oh! |
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| 14:58.32 | Ezep | I meant that :P |
| 14:58.41 | Sazpaimon | jelly, one of my partitions has been marked as degraded ONCE |
| 14:58.51 | Sazpaimon | but i re-enabled it to see if it was a fluke |
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| 14:58.54 | jelly | Sazpaimon: kernel notes if a process is hung (for more than 120 seconds by default) in dmesg/kern.log\ |
| 14:59.05 | Sazpaimon | jelly, i'll mount the drive and see |
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| 14:59.44 | enouf | Sazpaimon: you know about /etc/cron.d/mdadm ? |
| 14:59.47 | oxi | apt-get install autoconf |
| 14:59.48 | oxi | Err http://ftp.de.debian.org stable/main perl-modules 5.8.8-7etch4 |
| 14:59.49 | oxi | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:59.53 | jelly | Sazpaimon: if them's ATA disks smartmontools might show something |
| 14:59.58 | Ezep | oxi: change the repos |
| 14:59.59 | oxi | enouf: can you help me on that one? |
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| 15:00.07 | oxi | I fixed the gpg errors |
| 15:00.08 | Sazpaimon | jelly, SATA count? |
| 15:00.12 | jelly | Sazpaimon: esp. if regular tests are scheduled |
| 15:00.21 | jelly | Sazpaimon: yes |
| 15:00.24 | oxi | Ezep: I've got deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/pub/debian stable main contrib non-free currently |
| 15:00.39 | oxi | Ezep: how do you suggest me to switch it? |
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| 15:00.47 | abrotman | oxi: stable is not etch .. don't mix |
| 15:00.58 | oxi | abrotman: ah, I see |
| 15:01.29 | Ezep | Maybe .de is down, sometimes it happens |
| 15:02.00 | stew | Ezep: its clearly not down, if you see the error message |
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| 15:02.17 | Ezep | stew: ups, 404 |
| 15:02.35 | Ezep | This is not my day, I should go to sleep |
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| 15:03.02 | enouf | Ezep: sometimes i feel the same .. if it's any comfort ;-) |
| 15:03.12 | stew | its just that he hasn't run apt-get update for at least a half a year and his machine thinks that etch is still stable |
| 15:03.42 | enouf | and .. he's been told atleast once in the last hour to run apt-get update |
| 15:03.45 | Ezep | enouf: hehe |
| 15:03.48 | stew | oxi: you want to replace "stable" with "etch" and run "at-get update" |
| 15:03.56 | stew | he shouldn't run apt-get update before fixing his sources.list |
| 15:04.04 | stew | oxi: make that "apt-get update" |
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| 15:04.22 | oxi | stew: I already run apt-get bfore fixing the sources.list :-( |
| 15:04.41 | stew | oxi: then fix them and run it again, just don't install software until you change it back to etch |
| 15:04.44 | Ezep | And upgrade... I feel that the system is from last century |
| 15:05.05 | stew | oxi: you should consider switching to lenny sometime, but its not as easy a just changing your sources, see: /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
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| 15:05.21 | enouf | well. there's atleast one good reason for using NAME over release-version |
| 15:05.32 | oxi | stew: true, I fear to make the switch right now |
| 15:05.52 | oxi | enouf: yep, I agree |
| 15:06.05 | stew | Ezep: last century being 6 months ago |
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| 15:06.08 | Ezep | enouf: not if you want to have the mostly up-to-date stable version :P |
| 15:06.09 | teonanacatl | hi there |
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| 15:06.30 | stew | Ezep: yes, even if you want to have the mostly up-to-date stable version |
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| 15:07.04 | Ezep | Think what you have said |
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| 15:07.19 | stew | believe me, i have, many time for many years in here |
| 15:07.30 | Sazpaimon | jelly, here is all I can find in my kern.log: http://pastebin.com/m5f90c506 |
| 15:07.43 | stew | Ezep: one should pretty much never use "stable" in sources.list, which is why the installers don't do that anymore, thankfully |
| 15:07.47 | Ezep | But, mine are not "many" but are years :) |
| 15:07.48 | Sazpaimon | well, all I can find from the last 24 hours |
| 15:07.53 | poisonbit | I want to clean a program, whose Makefile doesn't has 'uninstall'... I use to undo steps, from the 'install' lines in the Makefile... there is another solution in this situation ? |
| 15:07.56 | oxi | enouf/stew/Ezep: tank you very much, that worked fine! |
| 15:08.02 | oxi | *thank |
| 15:08.08 | Ezep | oxi: you are wellcome |
| 15:08.31 | teonanacatl | i've installed debian from an usb-stick. the first boot failed, because the entry in grub's menu.lst were wrong: hd(0,5) and sdf6 instead of hd(0,5). i manually changed that in menu.lst. but now everytime debian "automatically" modifies that file, it falls back to hd(1,5) and sdf6 - how can i avoid that? were does debian put the info from? |
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| 15:08.43 | Sazpaimon | jelly, what does that lead you to believe |
| 15:08.59 | Ezep | poisonbit: my headache solution= see the makefile, install section... and do it manually :P |
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| 15:09.34 | pozic | enouf: was there any particular option you were thinking of in that file? |
| 15:09.58 | poisonbit | Ezep, that is wath i'm doing now :) |
| 15:10.02 | poisonbit | what |
| 15:10.03 | teonanacatl | (problem could be caused by my card-reader-stuff instead of the installation from usb-stick either) |
| 15:10.22 | Ezep | poisonbit: te debes estar rompiendo el coco, alto laburo |
| 15:10.37 | teonanacatl | *hd(1,5) instead of hd(0,5) and sda6 |
| 15:10.49 | enouf | pozic: i forget where we were ... |
| 15:11.07 | poisonbit | Ezep, its simple, i'm lucky |
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| 15:11.54 | rdz | what is the common way to keep the clock in time on debian? |
| 15:12.06 | poisonbit | rdz, ntp |
| 15:12.07 | Sazpaimon | also: Enabling S.M.A.R.T..../dev/sda...unable to fetch IEC (SMART) mode page [unsupported field in scsi command] |
| 15:12.16 | rdz | poisonbit, thanks |
| 15:12.31 | g00se | teonanacatl: are you modifying the right part of menu.lst? |
| 15:13.07 | teonanacatl | yes, i am able to boot with "my" settings - but as soon as debian automatically edits it (e.g. after installing a new kernel), it falls back to the "wrong" settings |
| 15:13.11 | jelly | Sazpaimon: are you using a custom kernel? |
| 15:13.16 | g00se | teonanacatl: And are you running update-grub? |
| 15:13.24 | Sazpaimon | jelly, no |
| 15:13.38 | teonanacatl | g00se, i edited the menu.lst and ran grub-install /dev/sda |
| 15:13.40 | teonanacatl | -> no |
| 15:14.09 | Sazpaimon | jelly, 2.6.26-2-amd64 |
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| 15:14.32 | g00se | teonanacatl: Try running update-grub after edit |
| 15:14.37 | stew | teonanacatl: you should not be editing the "AUTOMAGIC" section of menu.lst, you should be editing the "#kopt=" line instaead |
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| 15:15.00 | yangp | I am wondering how to proceed with installation of broken dependancy - http://pastebin.com/m30122948 |
| 15:15.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah, stew was faster :) |
| 15:15.38 | pozic | enouf: the boot-options file |
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| 15:16.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions sysvconfig |
| 15:16.06 | judd | CutMeOwnThroat: sysvconfig -- etch: 0.70 lenny: 0.81 sid: 0.81 squeeze: 0.81 |
| 15:16.16 | teonanacatl | g00se, that seems to be the command which produces that "wrong" settings.. after running it, i have to correct the file again |
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| 15:16.36 | jelly | Sazpaimon: you have a kernel oops in there. If it was only that, I'd first suspect RAM, then a real kernel bug, then perhaps disks. |
| 15:17.18 | SparFux1 | Hi all. I read a message about that grub v2 is recommended and grub v1 is obsolete. I want to upgrade. Are there any tutorials to read before doing aptitude install grub-pc ? |
| 15:17.24 | teonanacatl | stew, i guess the entries wont be touched than by update-grub, but that's not the solution i am looking for. there seems to be some inconsistency. would be nice if "update-grub" produces the correct entries |
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| 15:18.17 | stew | teonanacatl: the entries inside the AUTOMAGIC section are generated by update-grub by looking at the #kopt and #groot lines above it |
| 15:18.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | it *is* what you're looking for |
| 15:18.23 | Sazpaimon | jelly, does memtest86 work over serial console? |
| 15:18.32 | teonanacatl | stew, oh, i see. i'll have a look |
| 15:18.37 | jelly | Sazpaimon: try getting an opinion from kernel people or maybe debian-kernel people wrt that oops |
| 15:18.38 | Sazpaimon | because thats all i can use at the moment (no IP/KVM) |
| 15:18.48 | stew | teonanacatl: if you want the entries inside the AUTOMAGIC section to be different, you need to edit the #kopt, #groot lines (or add new ones) then re-run update-grub |
| 15:18.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | !wdyti Sazpaimon |
| 15:18.58 | dpkg | Why don't you just try it, Sazpaimon? |
| 15:19.01 | stew | teonanacatl: note that the # at the beginning of those lines is required |
| 15:19.02 | jelly | Sazpaimon: dunno, the newer one I have in squeeze says it does (never tried it) |
| 15:19.20 | Sazpaimon | i guess i'll backport it |
| 15:19.34 | Sazpaimon | if it doesnt i'll send a reboot signal to the server |
| 15:19.36 | teonanacatl | stew, that's what i wanted. ;-) thanks a lot |
| 15:20.31 | jelly | Sazpaimon: probably not needed to backport anything, just pick the .bin file out of the package and give it to grub |
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| 15:20.45 | enouf | teonanacatl: there are even more options there that could affect how/what update-grub alters - just a FYI |
| 15:21.17 | Sazpaimon | jelly, better for me to know months in the future that I have the testing version of it in case I forget |
| 15:21.39 | teonanacatl | enouf, yes, i understood. shame on me for not having a look at the whole file |
| 15:21.41 | Sazpaimon | because I can and will forget |
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| 15:23.20 | Sazpaimon | jelly, you sure squeeze has it, I'm checking http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/m/memtest86+/memtest86+_2.11-3/changelog and I don't see serial console support anywhere but in unstable |
| 15:24.12 | jelly | memtest86+ (2.11-2) experimental; urgency=low |
| 15:24.20 | jelly | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:24.20 | jelly | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:24.20 | jelly | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:24.41 | jelly | judd: versions memtest86+ |
| 15:24.42 | judd | jelly: memtest86+ -- etch: 1.65-1 lenny: 2.01-1.1 sid: 2.11-3 squeeze: 2.11-3 |
| 15:25.15 | Sazpaimon | i guess i misread the changelog |
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| 15:25.46 | stew | Sazpaimon: whatever you read in the changelog, if it is in unstable it must be in squeeze, since they both have the same version, currently |
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| 15:26.44 | stew | Sazpaimon: oh, were you confused by the changelog mentioning unstable? note that pacakges are first uploaded to unstable, and are later migrated to testing if they meet certain conditions, its very rare for a pacakge to be ever uploaded directly to testing |
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| 15:27.10 | Sazpaimon | stew, thanks for clarifying then |
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| 15:27.29 | Ryushin | Anyone running sid and using xfce4 here? |
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| 15:27.44 | stew | Ryushin: its safe to assume someone is |
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| 15:28.08 | Ezep | And healthy |
| 15:28.09 | Ryushin | stew: Yea, that is probably the case. But can they test something for me. |
| 15:28.30 | stew | Ryushin: probably |
| 15:28.40 | stew | Ryushin: you should just ask your real question |
| 15:29.08 | Ryushin | The tsclient applet doesn't seem to work any longer XfApplet. |
| 15:29.18 | Ryushin | Though I don't know if it works in gnome anymore either. |
| 15:29.38 | stew | Ryushin: have you checked the bts? |
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| 15:29.49 | Ryushin | I just get an internal error occurred and the applet cannot be loaded. |
| 15:29.51 | jelly | Ryushin: which package is "tsclient"applet in? |
| 15:29.56 | Ryushin | tsclient |
| 15:30.16 | Ryushin | /usr/lib/tsclient/tsclient-applet |
| 15:30.19 | jelly | Ryushin: 0.150-2? |
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| 15:30.34 | Ryushin | jelly: Yes. |
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| 15:31.13 | Ryushin | I tried deleting the ~/.tsclient folder to see if there was some bad config in there but there wasn't. |
| 15:32.00 | stew | Ryushin: have you checked the bts? |
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| 15:32.02 | Ryushin | stew: Sorry, no, I hadn't checked the bts yet. Sometimes I've had something going on with my system. Heck, my debian install is 11 years old (or so) at this point. |
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| 15:32.15 | jelly | Ryushin: lemme upgrade tsclient to sid |
| 15:32.22 | stew | Ryushin: you should check the bts, and if there is no bug filed, file one |
| 15:32.24 | Ryushin | I'll go check bts. |
| 15:33.04 | Ezep | Ryushin: 11 years? wow |
| 15:33.22 | Ryushin | Yea, but is it a bug with XfApplet or the tsclient. If does the same thing under gnome then I know it's tsclient's fault. |
| 15:33.56 | Ryushin | Ezep: Yea, I think that's about right. Just transferred the information from one laptop to another over the years. |
| 15:33.58 | jelly | Ryushin: confirming on a mostly-squeeze i386 installation. |
| 15:34.08 | jelly | Ryushin: 0.150-1 worked, -2 doesn't |
| 15:34.22 | Ryushin | jelly: Thanks much! So it's borked. |
| 15:34.27 | Ryushin | I'll open a bug. |
| 15:34.41 | Ryushin | jelly: Is that under xfce4 or under gnome. |
| 15:35.07 | jelly | Ryushin: dunno, now try it under gnome. |
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| 15:37.10 | jelly | Ryushin: fwiw, when run manually from shell, the 0.150-1 does something, but -2 just exits |
| 15:37.32 | Ryushin | jelly: Good to know. I'll put that in the bug as well. |
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| 15:38.33 | Ezep | That's why I love deb comunity :) |
| 15:38.50 | enouf | pozic: oh .. rightm boot-options.txt -- yeah - the xxx=noaperture and such options |
| 15:38.58 | Ryushin | Don't want to use anything else but Debian. |
| 15:38.58 | oxi | ./configure --with-java=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.07 |
| 15:38.59 | oxi | -bash: ./configure: Permission denied |
| 15:39.06 | oxi | can anyone help me to get permission? |
| 15:39.31 | enouf | pozic: but have you googled that AGP message? lspci -k might also help |
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| 15:39.47 | Ryushin | oxi: sudo chmod 777 ./configure |
| 15:40.21 | oxi | Ryushin: thanks a lot that helped |
| 15:40.22 | mattt | has anyone experienced any issues w/ a broadcom netxtreme II in an etch box? |
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| 15:40.30 | __neo__ | hi guts |
| 15:40.35 | __neo__ | *hi guys |
| 15:40.48 | __neo__ | I've access to a php shell on my server |
| 15:40.59 | __neo__ | I'm running using the www-data user from apache |
| 15:41.14 | __neo__ | if I try /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 15:41.29 | __neo__ | it gives me:Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key |
| 15:41.39 | Sazpaimon | so i started memtest86+ in serial console mode |
| 15:41.40 | __neo__ | any ideas how to restart the ssh server? |
| 15:41.43 | Sazpaimon | but im getting a bunch of grabage |
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| 15:42.12 | __neo__ | or at least run something that I could log-in as root |
| 15:42.28 | Ezep | __neo__: starting a daemon as www-data? |
| 15:42.35 | __neo__ | yes |
| 15:42.52 | __neo__ | or anything where I could type my root password |
| 15:43.07 | Ezep | Your? :-) |
| 15:43.14 | enouf | boot into rescue (single) mode? |
| 15:43.20 | Sazpaimon | __neo__, wite an ssh daemon using PHP? |
| 15:43.29 | Sazpaimon | and start that using your browser |
| 15:43.44 | __neo__ | how do I do that? is it complicated/much to write? |
| 15:43.52 | Ezep | Hacking attempt :/ |
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| 15:45.17 | __neo__ | Ezep: it's my home server and I killed the ssh daemon via killall sshd |
| 15:45.19 | Sazpaimon | __neo__, google one |
| 15:45.21 | __neo__ | no hacking :D |
| 15:45.33 | Ryushin | jelly: Thanks for you help. Bug is submitted and downgraded back to -1 and it's working fine for me now. |
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| 15:46.35 | jelly | __neo__: you can't restart the ssh server if you're not root. |
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| 15:46.49 | __neo__ | hmm.. |
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| 15:46.51 | Ezep | __neo__: just remember your root pass, enough |
| 15:47.04 | __neo__ | I know my root pass |
| 15:47.07 | jelly | and log in properly! |
| 15:47.22 | __neo__ | but I can't login via putty because I killed by mistake the ssh daemon |
| 15:47.29 | jelly | __neo__: if you have a shell, su should work. |
| 15:47.31 | Ezep | __neo__: su -c "/etc/init.d/sshd start" |
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| 15:47.49 | __neo__ | it says: su: must be run from a terminal |
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| 15:47.53 | tawan | i may be incredibly new to this but I am now running Debian (with xorg, openbox, xchat and icewaesel) - so i know nothing yet, journey begining, but i can sit in the #debian channel and learn :) |
| 15:48.17 | jelly | __neo__: I guess if you had sudo configured, you'd know about it |
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| 15:48.22 | Ezep | tawan: a pretty nice begining :) |
| 15:48.47 | Ezep | __neo__: tried using cgi-bin? |
| 15:49.11 | pozic | How can I find the kernel that was used to build the running kernel? |
| 15:49.14 | __neo__ | Ezep: what do you mean? |
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| 15:49.30 | enouf | __neo__: su ; enter your passwd ; then run commands |
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| 15:49.48 | jelly | pozic: the kernel used, or the compiler used? |
| 15:49.51 | SerajewelKS | what's a good text templating system useful to substitute placeholders in certain files with contents of other files, possibly modified first? |
| 15:49.55 | enouf | pozic: headers? |
| 15:50.09 | sedutom | says hello |
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| 15:50.10 | SerajewelKS | if it can be used from make that's even cooler |
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| 15:50.21 | pozic | jelly: the compiler used to compile the currently running kernel. |
| 15:50.21 | jelly | pozic: what are you really trying to do? |
| 15:50.25 | Ezep | __neo__: listen what enouf had said :P |
| 15:50.32 | __neo__ | enouf: I can't interact with it - it's not a console |
| 15:50.35 | pozic | jelly: I am trying to revive my TNT2 card. |
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| 15:50.50 | __neo__ | I mean, it just outputs the command's output but no interaction |
| 15:50.58 | enouf | jelly: I _think_ pozic is trying to match known working kernels with each apropos *nvidia* kernel module - to test which version works - or something |
| 15:51.04 | pozic | jelly: and by revive I mean installing the legacy 71 nvidia edrivers |
| 15:51.06 | __neo__ | is there a way to tell sudo the password in the same command? |
| 15:51.16 | pozic | enouf: no |
| 15:51.24 | enouf | pozic: ok - my bad then |
| 15:51.29 | Ezep | __neo__: see the output of man su |
| 15:51.53 | pozic | enouf: I just want to have the following command work without errors: m-a auto-install nvidia-kernel${VERSION}-source |
| 15:51.53 | Ezep | __neo__: or see the man from die.net, and make a script :-) |
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| 15:51.57 | pozic | jelly: ^^ |
| 15:52.11 | pozic | jelly: of course I set VERSION to the right value |
| 15:52.42 | pozic | The error message I get is that the compiler versions not match and sometimes this is not a problem, but I think that this time it is. |
| 15:52.56 | enouf | pozic: well, 1st off, for a card that old, you need -legacy- drivers, IIRC |
| 15:53.12 | pozic | enouf: yes, I am already using the right package, trust me on this. |
| 15:53.36 | enouf | export CC=gcc-version ; commands |
| 15:53.37 | jelly | pozic: and ls -l `which gcc` says what? |
| 15:54.00 | pozic | enouf: yes, the problem is that I do not know what Debian used to compile this kernel. |
| 15:54.00 | jelly | enouf: that's not enough for kernel |
| 15:54.12 | Sazpaimon | anyway, I still cant get memtest86+ to show up correctly in serial console. it just gives garbage |
| 15:54.16 | pozic | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 jul 20 2008 /usr/bin/gcc -> gcc-4.3 |
| 15:54.20 | Sazpaimon | and i used the same aguments i use to boot the kernel with |
| 15:54.27 | jelly | pozic: uname -r? |
| 15:54.28 | enouf | oh - i thought ... oh nm |
| 15:54.36 | Sazpaimon | and I'm getting nothing but garbage, i can't even remote reboot the box anymore |
| 15:54.36 | Sazpaimon | :/ |
| 15:54.41 | pozic | jelly: 2.6.30-1-amd64 |
| 15:54.44 | enouf | pozic: cat /proc/version |
| 15:54.53 | enouf | will tell you which gcc was used |
| 15:55.08 | pozic | enouf: ah, thanks, that was what I needed. |
| 15:55.18 | Sazpaimon | so NOW i need to call the server company and see if they could physically reboot the box |
| 15:55.22 | enouf | finally understood the question - heh |
| 15:55.31 | Sazpaimon | which will take, oh, probably a few days |
| 15:55.35 | Sazpaimon | great... |
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| 15:55.49 | Ezep | Sazpaimon: :s |
| 15:55.50 | jelly | Sazpaimon: yay. Tell them to run memtest while they're at it. |
| 15:56.13 | Sazpaimon | jelly, so I can turn those few days into a few weeks? no thanks |
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| 15:56.37 | Sazpaimon | wait |
| 15:56.42 | Sazpaimon | if memtest86+ IS running |
| 15:56.46 | Sazpaimon | will it reboot on its own? |
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| 15:57.13 | jelly | Sazpaimon: there's a key to reboot it |
| 15:57.24 | Sazpaimon | jelly, well i'm fucked then |
| 15:57.35 | jelly | Sazpaimon: but if the serial is misconfigured, yeah |
| 15:57.57 | Sazpaimon | since i cant recieve anything but garbage on serial console |
| 15:57.57 | __neo__ | I've tried sudo -u root -S /etc/init.d/sshd start <<< my_password but it asks for password for www-data |
| 15:57.57 | Sazpaimon | so even if the test finishes it wont reboot? |
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| 15:58.05 | __neo__ | why can't I make it to ask the password for root? |
| 15:58.11 | Ezep | __neo__: not sudo, su! |
| 15:58.18 | jelly | Sazpaimon: I dont quite get it, you don't get a grub menu when you use the reboot functionality? |
| 15:58.21 | pozic | How do I get the lenny key btw? |
| 15:58.33 | __neo__ | Ezep: thanks |
| 15:58.41 | Ezep | __neo__: np |
| 15:58.41 | jelly | Sazpaimon: memtest86 works forever |
| 15:58.45 | Sazpaimon | jelly, no, if I need to reboot i reboot using the control panel |
| 15:58.56 | Sazpaimon | which sends some signal to the server to reboot |
| 15:58.58 | Sazpaimon | it should work always |
| 15:58.59 | jelly | Sazpaimon: right, and that doesn't get you a grub menu on serial? |
| 15:59.04 | Sazpaimon | jelly, yes it does |
| 15:59.11 | Sazpaimon | that's how I selected memtest86+ |
| 15:59.12 | jelly | Sazpaimon: so what's the problem? |
| 15:59.41 | Sazpaimon | jelly, when I selected memtest86+, I got nothing but garbage on the serial console, and the reboot signals arent doing jack |
| 15:59.42 | jelly | (apart from memtest86+ showing garbage) |
| 16:00.01 | enouf | Sazpaimon: tried sysrq stuffs? |
| 16:00.08 | jelly | ah. Their reboot method sucks |
| 16:00.14 | jelly | enouf: in memtest86? |
| 16:00.34 | enouf | jelly: in anything - i've never tried it in memtest86+ though |
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| 16:00.46 | jelly | enouf: that's a Linux feature. |
| 16:00.57 | Sazpaimon | jelly, iirc it's PXE boot |
| 16:01.09 | enouf | ahh .. yep. kernel things |
| 16:01.48 | jelly | Sazpaimon: I have no idea what that last line means, sorry |
| 16:01.57 | Sazpaimon | jelly, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preboot_Execution_Environment |
| 16:02.48 | jelly | Sazpaimon: that's after boot; not for initiating a reboot AFAIK |
| 16:03.38 | jelly | (well, after POST) |
| 16:03.51 | Ezep | Sazpaimon: well, I think you would have memtest86+ running for days.. and days |
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| 16:04.20 | Trolly | Hello you old gangstas! |
| 16:04.21 | Sazpaimon | I'll call them up and tell them to reboot it physically |
| 16:04.43 | Trolly | Everything upgebouncht with you? |
| 16:05.10 | Trolly | HEY! I have you what gequestioned! |
| 16:05.35 | jelly | Sazpaimon: sorry for the memtest suggestion O;-) |
| 16:05.35 | JyZyGyZyX | my sshd doesn't allow root logins, where is that set? |
| 16:05.47 | Trolly | Should I you a song singing? |
| 16:05.51 | Trolly | Wait... |
| 16:05.59 | Trolly | It's close to midnight and something evil's lurking in the dark |
| 16:06.04 | Trolly | Under the moonlight, you see a sight that almost stops your heart |
| 16:06.06 | jelly | !ops Trolly ... well, trolling. |
| 16:06.06 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: jelly complains about: Trolly ... well, trolling. |
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| 16:06.11 | Trolly | You try to scream but terror takes the sound before you make it |
| 16:06.20 | jelly | JyZyGyZyX: /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 16:06.28 | stew | Trolly: can you please stay on-topic |
| 16:06.42 | Trolly | What is then topic??? |
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| 16:07.01 | stew | Trolly: debian end-user support |
| 16:07.19 | Trolly | Ah! Therefor am I an expert! |
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| 16:07.25 | jelly | stew: must we go through these steps even with a nick like that! |
| 16:07.39 | Trolly | 'Cause this is thriller, thriller night |
| 16:07.40 | stew | jelly: no |
| 16:07.44 | Trolly | Yes! |
| 16:07.55 | Trolly | Why are you lieing? |
| 16:07.58 | enouf | JyZyGyZyX: check out http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/faq.html#1_3 and perhaps also look into fail2ban |
| 16:08.04 | KavanS | no. |
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| 16:08.07 | Sazpaimon | wow, when did these guys start hiring white guys for their techsupport department |
| 16:08.08 | KavanS | stop that. |
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| 16:08.15 | JyZyGyZyX | k |
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| 16:08.40 | JyZyGyZyX | i only need root logins from 192.168.0.0/24 so i can run backups |
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| 16:09.30 | enouf | JyZyGyZyX: debian-administration.org also has useful info |
| 16:09.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | huh? |
| 16:09.37 | Ezep | Troll... |
| 16:10.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, wondering about the re-join |
| 16:10.24 | enouf | CutMeOwnThroat: you actually watch all that crap? heh |
| 16:10.30 | jelly | wishes trolls would just beat it. |
| 16:10.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course |
| 16:10.34 | enouf | (or allow it i should say) |
| 16:10.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't have TV |
| 16:11.18 | jelly | JyZyGyZyX: sshd_config has a man page |
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| 16:14.51 | themill | stew: libapache-mod-php5 is another stale package only in lenny/updates on security.debian.org |
| 16:15.09 | JyZyGyZyX | would be kinda cool if everyone whos not from LAN would be forced to use OTP |
| 16:15.56 | enouf | you could force port knocking on them with knockd, IINM |
| 16:16.22 | Sazpaimon | well that was easier than i thought |
| 16:16.39 | Sazpaimon | apparently the monkies at 1&1 finally gave their tech support people direct access to the switch |
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| 16:16.43 | stew | themill: thanks |
| 16:16.46 | Sazpaimon | i asked him if he could replace the ram and he said no problem |
| 16:16.53 | Sazpaimon | i should have new ram in about an hour |
| 16:16.59 | stew | themill: i'm hoping to get it all sorted this evening your time |
| 16:17.04 | themill | :) |
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| 16:17.17 | Sazpaimon | crisis averted for now i guess |
| 16:17.20 | stew | themill: i have a list of a bunch of others too: courier-authlib geshi libspf2 liquidsoap mediawiki mplayer snort vlc |
| 16:17.29 | enouf | Sazpaimon: still the original issue though? |
| 16:17.30 | stew | i don't know why this script isn't finding the ones you are finding though |
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| 16:17.54 | Sazpaimon | enouf, i wont knot until the ram is replaced |
| 16:17.59 | Sazpaimon | at least i can access my server now |
| 16:18.02 | enouf | Sazpaimon: right-e-o |
| 16:18.03 | themill | stew: fools are too ingenious |
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| 16:18.42 | stew | oh i'm using an old sources file |
| 16:18.58 | themill | stew: it's not as if apache1.3 has been in lenny recently though |
| 16:19.14 | JyZyGyZyX | the /etc/security/access.conf had some cool stuff |
| 16:19.15 | beardy | I saw it yesterday don't try that! |
| 16:19.21 | tawan | who would recomend a panel for a minimal debian/openbox setup? |
| 16:19.28 | stew | themill: we haven't done testing security cruft removal since lenny afaik |
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| 16:19.33 | iwkse | tawan: lxpanel |
| 16:19.38 | d1b | Sazpaimon: 1&1 are said to be over sold / slow :) |
| 16:19.42 | tawan | iwkse, tq |
| 16:19.55 | beardy | (No, I didn't.) |
| 16:20.19 | stew | themill: hmm, now I come up with "apt cyrus-sasl2 cyrus-sasl2-heimdal ghostscript" |
| 16:20.42 | themill | stew: yeah, there's a stale apt in testing/security |
| 16:21.21 | themill | stew: are you checking for lenny/updates that are outdated too? or just squeeze/updates? |
| 16:21.36 | stew | themill: squeeze |
| 16:21.38 | stew | right |
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| 16:22.04 | beardy | I recall ghostscript being replaced with ghostscript-gpl. (I don't need it, but ia32libs pulls in all kinds of crap.) |
| 16:22.15 | Sazpaimon | d1b, I guess my result begged to differ |
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| 16:22.22 | themill | stew: the libapache-mod-php5 was a lenny/updates package not a squeeze/updates package though. |
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| 16:22.40 | Sazpaimon | d1b, i'll tell you how long it takes for the ram to be replaced |
| 16:22.41 | oxi | 22/07/2009 18:13:42 30499 jsvc error: Cannot find any VM in Java Home /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.07 |
| 16:22.42 | oxi | Segmentation fault |
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| 16:22.56 | oxi | oops sorry |
| 16:23.12 | oxi | wrong channel |
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| 16:24.25 | stew | themill: aha |
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| 16:24.46 | stew | themill: wow, now my list is HUGE |
| 16:24.52 | omid8bimo | just upgraded to 2.6.30 on deb sid ><>< lovin' it |
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| 16:25.31 | themill | stew: I bet... a mix of outdated testing/updates that got copied across when lenny was released and some crap left behind from point releases no doubt |
| 16:26.01 | stew | themill: and yes, it now includes php5 |
| 16:26.08 | themill | all of it :P |
| 16:26.13 | stew | acpid amule apache2 apr-util apt audacity auth2db avahi barnowl clamav courier-authlib cscope ctorrent cups curl cyrus-sasl2 cyrus-sasl2-heimdal devil dkim-milter drupal6 ejabberd ffmpeg-debian freetype gedit geshi gforge ghostscript git-core glib2.0 gnumeric gnutls26 icu imp4 ipsec-tools kdegraphics krb5 lcms ldns libapache-mod-jk libpam-heimdal libpam-krb5... |
| 16:26.18 | stew | that's about a third of it |
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| 16:27.23 | pozic | omid8bimo: yes, it appeared to be a bit faster, no? |
| 16:27.49 | themill | stew: I'm guessing your working on source package names there not binary package names |
| 16:27.55 | omid8bimo | pozic: yeah, but still i have issues on kvm! |
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| 16:28.19 | stew | themill: yes |
| 16:28.32 | clearscreen | Is it me, or are all directories empty? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/ |
| 16:29.22 | stew | clearscreen: all directories are empty |
| 16:29.43 | clearscreen | awright |
| 16:29.55 | stew | clearscreen: use a stable installer and upgrade to testing |
| 16:30.26 | clearscreen | I am not sure if stable will support my ethernet hardware |
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| 16:30.59 | Philky | Is Debian secure? What security measures does it provide by default? |
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| 16:32.04 | omid8bimo | Philky: on it's own, do provide security measures which u can take |
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| 16:32.23 | Philky | omid8bimo: Does it have a firewall etc by default? |
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| 16:32.57 | omid8bimo | Philky: depends what kinda firewall. all linux have iptables, u can install firestarter for more default rules |
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| 16:33.17 | omid8bimo | Philky: also enable selinux for huge security but its hard to work with |
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| 16:34.43 | somiaj | Philky: debian's defaults usually go for the more secure options when installing new servers, services, etc. The debian security team also provides updates for the stable release to any exploits in any of the packages for additional security. |
| 16:35.16 | somiaj | Philky: but the default I wouldn't say is secure up to most security concerned people. This means that you will of course have to configure and secure things in which you want to run. |
| 16:35.26 | BubbaT | How can I lookup what package a file is in if I want some version that is different from the one I have installed? |
| 16:35.27 | Philky | somiaj: ok |
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| 16:36.01 | somiaj | Philky: here of course you will have various ways to do it. From just configuring all the servers/services you have to the more secure settings, to taking admin control and putting things into chroots, setting up firewalls, primisions etc. |
| 16:36.13 | enouf | BubbaT: you could search p.d.o |
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| 16:36.44 | somiaj | BubbaT: dpks -S /full/path/to/file will tell you what package put the file on the system. |
| 16:36.48 | enouf | BubbaT: perhaps apt-show-versions , along with apt-file |
| 16:37.09 | enouf | uses dlocate, much faster |
| 16:37.11 | somiaj | BubbaT: you can also use packages.debian.org to look up all packages which contain a paticular file. |
| 16:37.45 | enouf | (and ... less to even type out when searching) |
| 16:38.14 | themill | Except that it can't answer the question in this case. |
| 16:38.22 | enouf | correct |
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| 16:41.24 | tawan | modprobe command not found after sudo modprobe -r iwl3945 ?? |
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| 16:41.41 | valdyn | tawan: sudo /sbin/modprobe |
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| 16:42.08 | somiaj | sounds like something is wrong with sudo if /sbin is not in the path. |
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| 16:42.53 | tawan | valdyn, thanks i found that on a forum but missed the preceding / |
| 16:43.01 | tawan | valdyn, works :) |
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| 16:43.58 | pelle_k | Does anyone know if APT has got any "hooks" for executing bash scripts? Or even better, a python plugin api where you can register python methods? |
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| 16:45.11 | valdyn | !wayttd pelle_k |
| 16:45.11 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, pelle_k? |
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| 16:45.48 | pelle_k | I'm trying to run a script before and after installation/removal of packages! :) |
| 16:46.14 | valdyn | pelle_k: look at how apt-listchanges does it |
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| 16:46.44 | pelle_k | valdyn: will do, thanks for the tip! |
| 16:46.44 | enouf | and perhaps even localepurge |
| 16:46.57 | ch1pl3t | how do i fix: W: GPG error: http://www.mirrorservice.org etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B |
| 16:47.01 | valdyn | pelle_k: pretty easy |
| 16:47.05 | pelle_k | enouf: that too ;) thanks |
| 16:47.11 | enouf | ch1pl3t: /msg dpkg new archive key |
| 16:47.27 | WormFood | where do I get "tun" support in stable (for openvpn)? |
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| 16:47.42 | valdyn | WormFood: modprobe tun |
| 16:48.03 | filePeter | WormFood: It’s a module of the standard kernel. |
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| 16:48.26 | valdyn | WormFood: or maybe you were looking for "man tunctl" |
| 16:48.33 | WormFood | weird, but this setup has no modules |
| 16:48.52 | filePeter | ? |
| 16:48.53 | valdyn | WormFood: then its not a debian kernel |
| 16:48.59 | valdyn | WormFood: ask your isp |
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| 16:49.13 | WormFood | FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.18-92.1.1.el5.028stab057.2/modules.dep: No such file or directory <-- and the /lib/modules/ dir is empty |
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| 16:49.27 | ch1pl3t | enouf: thx |
| 16:49.33 | enouf | WormFood: generate your own file of modules.dep .. er |
| 16:49.37 | WormFood | wtf? that is an el5 kernel.... |
| 16:49.40 | themill | WormFood: that's a redhat kernel |
| 16:49.49 | stew | WormFood: a redhat kernel |
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| 16:49.56 | WormFood | I know, but this is a debian system |
| 16:50.03 | themill | WormFood: Xen? |
| 16:50.08 | stew | WormFood: probably running as a virtual machine in a redhat host |
| 16:50.18 | filePeter | WormFood: Maybe it is already compiled into the kernel. |
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| 16:50.35 | WormFood | # cat /etc/debian_version 5.0.2 |
| 16:50.49 | ch1pl3t | my apt-get upgrade is hung at 64% [Connecting to www.mirrorservice.org (212.219.56.135)] - is that dead? |
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| 16:51.03 | valdyn | WormFood: it does not necessarily run its own kernel |
| 16:51.22 | WormFood | That is possible (running inside a VM), but I know the guy who setup and he does not like roothat....that is why he installed debian |
| 16:51.37 | enouf | crap - where's that bug now ... darnnit |
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| 16:51.55 | WormFood | I'll ask him about it....I didn't even notice that wasn't the correct kernel until after I pasted it and saw "el5" in it |
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| 16:52.12 | filePeter | WormFood: Hmm. Maybe try: mknod /dev/net/tun c 10 200 That’s what created it on my eeepc. |
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| 16:53.03 | stew | filePeter: note that one shouldn't be running mknod when udev is in use (which is hard to avoid these days) |
| 16:53.25 | filePeter | stew: Uhhh. Thanks. |
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| 16:54.20 | g00se | slim is remaining after logon, obscuring my xfce4 desktop suddenly |
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| 16:54.36 | t_corr | i am so tired |
| 16:54.55 | Philky | can someone help me setup some cron jobs |
| 16:55.08 | valdyn | !tell Philky -about smart question |
| 16:55.11 | valdyn | !tell Philky -about ask |
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| 16:56.17 | Philky | I need cron.trace and cron.ping to be run at these times: Tuesday 10pm, Wednesday 7am, Wednesday 5pm, Friday 5pm, Saturday 7am, Saturday 5pm |
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| 16:56.18 | Philky | Just once. |
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| 16:57.10 | somiaj | Philky: man crontab, et up a correct cron job |
| 16:57.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | Philky, or use "at" if they're not recurring |
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| 16:58.15 | Philky | CutMeOwnThroat: huh? |
| 16:58.20 | Philky | CutMeOwnThroat: these are a one off |
| 16:58.25 | Philky | those times, for one week |
| 16:58.39 | g00se | Philky: That's the whole point - use at not cron |
| 16:58.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's what I said! |
| 16:58.56 | enouf | WormFood: FWIW (and i needed to refind this to bookmark it anyway) http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=523828#15 was what i was talking about, however - doesn't pertain to your issue, i guess - perhaps a missing (corresponding) System.map is missing for your kernel version |
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| 17:02.04 | enouf | i suppose only these files would be missing., modules.usbmap modules.inputmap modules.isapnpmap modules.ofmap modules.ccwmap modules.ieee1394map modules.seriomap modules.pcima (not modules.dep*) |
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| 17:02.22 | Posterdati | hi |
| 17:04.03 | Posterdati | please I need a program that takes strings from serial ports and takes action on their values |
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| 17:04.17 | Philky | hmm |
| 17:04.21 | Philky | g00se: syntax error. Last token seen: c |
| 17:04.26 | Philky | i followed man at |
| 17:04.35 | Philky | at -file cron.ping 10pm Jul 28 |
| 17:04.38 | Philky | is what i typed |
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| 17:05.27 | WormFood | enouf, this problem appears to be related to the wrong kernel |
| 17:05.30 | enouf | Posterdati: use a modem? |
| 17:05.41 | enouf | WormFood: understood |
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| 17:06.12 | stew | Philky: that says "run the commands from the file named 'ile' at the time 'cron.ping'" and then had some bogus data at the end |
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| 17:06.37 | stew | Philky: you perhaps want at -f cron.ping "10pm Jul 28" |
| 17:06.40 | valdyn | Philky: at -f script 1pm SUN |
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| 17:06.53 | Philky | it has to be in speech marks? |
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| 17:07.00 | valdyn | Philky: no |
| 17:07.03 | Philky | ok |
| 17:07.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | WormFood, guess you can install the redhat rpm that has the modules? |
| 17:07.24 | stew | Philky: -file means "in the file named 'ile'' |
| 17:07.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell WormFood -about alien |
| 17:07.42 | Philky | they shuda made it so -f is an alias of -file |
| 17:07.44 | Philky | maybe |
| 17:08.09 | stew | Philky: -file should mean the same as -f ile or -f -i -l -e |
| 17:08.09 | oxi | hi |
| 17:08.15 | oxi | ./configure --with-java=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.07 |
| 17:08.15 | oxi | *** Current host *** |
| 17:08.16 | oxi | checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu |
| 17:08.17 | oxi | .... |
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| 17:08.18 | stew | Philky: --file would be a more typical alias |
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| 17:08.27 | oxi | sorry |
| 17:08.27 | pozic | module assistant cannot build the nvidia package: http://paste.debian.net/42402/ |
| 17:08.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, actually you can also install rpm itself... |
| 17:08.43 | oxi | how should I fix the configure above? |
| 17:08.44 | pozic | Should I just use an older kernel? |
| 17:08.58 | enouf | Philky: or use '-f -- name' if you want to stop passing options |
| 17:09.20 | clearscreen | how is software priority decided for debian images? popularity contest? |
| 17:09.31 | enouf | Philky: google rute linux is a good read for general understanding |
| 17:09.34 | oxi | ./configure --with-java=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.07 -DCPU=i386 .... does that sound reasonable? |
| 17:09.38 | tarzeau | clearscreen: like on the cds? |
| 17:09.53 | tarzeau | clearscreen: yes |
| 17:09.57 | Ezep | clearscreen: yea |
| 17:09.57 | oxi | is -DCPU a parameter which is usually passed to make or to configure? |
| 17:10.04 | clearscreen | awright |
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| 17:10.28 | tarzeau | clearscreen: i hardly know anyone downloading more than the 1st cd image, if at all |
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| 17:10.46 | oxi | ... or autoconf? |
| 17:11.03 | tarzeau | i've been installing debian on non-x86 from network only, for a decade of years now, and x86/amd64 since 5 years with netboot |
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| 17:11.42 | oxi | and is the correct flag -DCPU=386 or -DCPU=i386? |
| 17:11.44 | clearscreen | tarzeau: me neither, I was just curious |
| 17:12.12 | pozic | oxi: ./configure --help should say that |
| 17:12.25 | pozic | oxi: if it doesn't complain to whoever built the configure script |
| 17:12.34 | oxi | pozic: right, thanks |
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| 17:13.24 | pozic | oxi: most likely it is under compiler options or something like that, which means that you need to find the documentation for your compiler and so on. |
| 17:13.37 | oxi | yeah, that's what I just guessed |
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| 17:14.19 | jelly | oxi: your paste was cut short, we didn't even see the actual error |
| 17:14.22 | jelly | !paste |
| 17:14.22 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
| 17:14.23 | oxi | it's probably an argument of CFLAGS |
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| 17:14.57 | enouf | it's not anywhere in gcc -v --help options, AFAICT |
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| 17:16.07 | Ezep | cflags in debian? |
| 17:16.34 | pozic | enouf: module assistant cannot build the nvidia package: http://paste.debian.net/42402/ |
| 17:16.58 | oxi | jelly: I think the problem is that the configure script is assuming amd64: http://paste.debian.net/42403/ |
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| 17:17.40 | RichiH | !find lomount |
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| 17:18.49 | oxi | jelly: when I hit ./configure --with-java=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.07 it configures fine and makes a binary later on with make. ... however, when I try to run that binary, it's searching wrong paths for virtual machines: jsvc debug: Attempting to locate VM library /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.07/lib/amd64 for example, while it should be searching in jsvc debug: Attempting to locate VM library /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.07/lib/i386 |
| 17:19.27 | enouf | pozic: i see that now .. however i'm no expert on this - i'm not even sure where to tell you to look for help -- is that supposed to work correctly using an amd64 kernel with i386 userland? |
| 17:19.28 | oxi | therefore I assume configure is picking up the wrong -DCPU flag or using the wrong -DCPU flag by default |
| 17:19.41 | oxi | I have to figure out now how to change such flags |
| 17:20.06 | pozic | enouf: I am fairly sure that it used to work a few years ago. |
| 17:20.18 | jefferai | I'm having trouble with the Debian 5.0 installer. It keeps failing on the "Detect and mount CD-ROM" stage. Why that's even necessary I haven't the faintest idea, but it won't get past that. |
| 17:20.18 | jelly | oxi: is this an i386 or an amd64 installation? |
| 17:20.27 | oxi | enouf: I can't tell, I've never gone such deep. But I believe my installation is i386 |
| 17:20.38 | jelly | oxi: uname -r |
| 17:20.42 | pozic | enouf: the userland is x86-64 too, and I understand that you might not know. |
| 17:20.43 | oxi | jelly: I believe it's i386, but I'm not 100% sure |
| 17:20.51 | pozic | enouf: it is a quite specific configuration. |
| 17:20.55 | jelly | oxi: don't believe, run that command please |
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| 17:21.10 | oxi | jelly: uname -r: 2.6.22.18-nine-vserver-grsec2.1.11-vs2.2.0.6 |
| 17:21.15 | jelly | oxi: also run dpkg --print-architecture |
| 17:21.22 | oxi | jelly: :-) yeah, can you assume anything out of that |
| 17:21.30 | jelly | oh sorry, uname -a |
| 17:21.42 | pozic | enouf: I could fix the compilation errors if I would inspect the souce code probably; the errors seem to be fairly simple, but that would still probably take at least an hour. |
| 17:22.07 | oxi | jelly: thanks .... dpkg --pring-architecture: i386 |
| 17:22.10 | oxi | this is interesting |
| 17:22.12 | enouf | pozic: ok - all amd64 - that's clear now ... but is that legacy pkg supposed to work with amd64 is what i was getting at - although, if you apt-get installed the correct source pkgs, it should |
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| 17:22.30 | oxi | uname -a: Linux scheurin 2.6.22.18-nine-vserver-grsec2.1.11-vs2.2.0.6 #1 SMP Tue Feb 24 19:24:54 CET 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 17:22.41 | oxi | hmm, now x86_64? |
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| 17:22.45 | oxi | I'm confused |
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| 17:23.05 | Eternal_Sin | hi everyone |
| 17:23.17 | jelly | oxi: so you have a 64bit kernel and a 32bit Debian. This is all nice, and the stupid script shouldn't look in uname for the architecture, but it does. |
| 17:23.22 | zzo38 | I know FORTUNE collection on my computer appears to have a lot of messages from this channel, I think? |
| 17:23.26 | oxi | is it possible that I'm on a KVM i386 in Vserver running in a 64 host? |
| 17:23.28 | rozie | oxi: you can have 64bit kernel... |
| 17:23.34 | Eternal_Sin | enouf, hi again |
| 17:23.38 | rozie | just as jelly says |
| 17:23.45 | Eternal_Sin | enouf, my problem is solved |
| 17:23.46 | jelly | oxi: no, it's a proper 64bit kernel. It supports running i386 apps. |
| 17:23.50 | oxi | jelly: huh, I didn't even know it's possile to have 2 kernels |
| 17:23.56 | oxi | jelly: I see |
| 17:23.57 | enouf | pozic: http://packages.debian.org/sid/nvidia-kernel-legacy-71xx-2.6-amd64 ? |
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| 17:24.02 | jelly | oxi: there's only one kernel. |
| 17:24.18 | enouf | Eternal_Sin: excellent - what was it again? |
| 17:24.27 | jelly | oxi: but both i386 and amd64 userspace can run on it. |
| 17:24.31 | oxi | yeah, that's what I thought, I never heard of hybrid kernels or double kernels yet :-) |
| 17:24.37 | enouf | pozic: erm ... not necessarily the /sid/ one ... wait |
| 17:24.40 | oxi | cool stuff |
| 17:24.41 | Eternal_Sin | enouf, nothing, just having a break ^^ |
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| 17:24.58 | jelly | oxi: there should be a --target or a similar configure parameter |
| 17:24.59 | enouf | oh pozic - heh, it's only in sid |
| 17:24.59 | zzo38 | Which packages are good enough for Debian? For example, is PHIRC good enough? |
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| 17:25.13 | enouf | Eternal_Sin: coffee break? :-p |
| 17:25.33 | oxi | jelly: do you think I've got a wrong java installation? (i've done mine through backports, when there was no official java 6 installation with apt) |
| 17:25.45 | Eternal_Sin | enouf, the problem wasn't Artsd, was knotify, I don't know why knotify was calling Artsd, and no, I'm having H2O :P xD |
| 17:25.51 | pozic | enouf: yes, the sid one. |
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| 17:26.03 | oxi | my java isntallation seems to be i386, since the directories contain i386 subdirs but not amd64 subdirs |
| 17:26.07 | jelly | oxi: No. You corece configure to think your system is a "i386-unknown-linux-gnu" |
| 17:26.08 | zzo38 | /msg dpkg guidelines |
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| 17:26.15 | jelly | s/You/Just/ |
| 17:26.27 | oxi | jelly: ok, thanks for clearyfying |
| 17:26.43 | pozic | enouf: I wouldn't mind downgrading the kernel, but then I would need to know for sure that it will at least work. I think just some simple internal kernel interfaces changed. |
| 17:26.51 | jelly | oxi: what are you trying to build? |
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| 17:27.14 | zzo38 | Where can I download the channel guidelines, please? |
| 17:27.33 | jefferai | zzo38: just look at the subject |
| 17:27.34 | enouf | pozic: but that Sid pkg seems to Depend on an old 2,6,18 pkg .. |
| 17:27.38 | oxi | jelly: how do you suggest to fix it? .... figure out how to set the -DCPU flag within CFLAGS? |
| 17:27.44 | oxi | jelly: jsvc... |
| 17:27.48 | pozic | enouf: where do you see that? |
| 17:27.55 | jelly | oxi: ./configure --help |
| 17:28.00 | pozic | enouf: Oh, an a minimum kernel version you mean? |
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| 17:28.07 | oxi | it's some kind of a weird java service that comes with the tomcat package to run tomcat as a service |
| 17:28.09 | pozic | enouf: so the dependencies are just not constrained. |
| 17:28.24 | pozic | enouf: most likely that 2.6.18 version will work then. |
| 17:28.28 | jelly | oxi: oh, java service wrapper. |
| 17:28.35 | jelly | not weird at all :-) |
| 17:28.42 | zzo38 | jefferai: Sorry, there is a NOTICE from ChanServ and the topic line also, I don't see the URL I just see "/msg dpkg guidelines"? |
| 17:29.00 | oxi | jelly: yeah, it seems to bypass some port80/root user issue with debian |
| 17:29.07 | jefferai | dunno |
| 17:29.10 | jefferai | I'm having trouble with the Debian 5.0 installer. It keeps failing on the "Detect and mount CD-ROM" stage. Why that's even necessary I haven't the faintest idea, but it won't get past that. |
| 17:29.11 | zzo38 | /msg dpkg guidelines |
| 17:29.12 | dutchfish | !tell zzo38 about guidelines |
| 17:29.15 | oxi | and I also think it's probably the proper way for a java web server |
| 17:29.39 | oxi | jelly: yep, I hit that (./configure --help) ... but I lack to understand how to set the -DCPU flag |
| 17:29.51 | jelly | oxi: you can run tomcat on, say, port 8080, and use iptables to NAT from :80 to :8080 |
| 17:30.22 | jelly | oxi: ignore the DCPU, if there's a --target use that |
| 17:30.24 | pozic | Only probably there are some root exploits in 2.6.18, not? |
| 17:30.35 | oxi | jelly: here's the --help : http://paste.debian.net/42406/ |
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| 17:31.02 | pozic | enouf: I do not see where you see that kernel dependency. |
| 17:31.02 | oxi | jelly: ah, I see DCPU was pointing me to the wrong direction ... I'll hunt for a target |
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| 17:31.48 | jelly | oxi: --host or --build, it seems |
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| 17:32.15 | enouf | pozic: http://packages.debian.org/sid/nvidia-kernel-legacy-71xx-2.6-amd64 --> * dep: nvidia-kernel-legacy-71xx-2.6.18-4-amd64 NVIDIA binary kernel module for Linux 2.6.18-4-amd64 (legacy version) |
| 17:32.21 | oxi | jelly: thanks a lot!!! |
| 17:32.32 | oxi | jelly: I guess one of those it is |
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| 17:32.53 | oxi | now I think it's trial and error or look into the configure scripts |
| 17:33.54 | zzo38 | Thanks I found the instruction about policy for Debian packages |
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| 17:34.29 | jelly | oxi: you already have its wrong guess of "amd64-unknown-linux-gnu" so base it off that |
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| 17:34.38 | oxi | since the configure script previously said: *** Current host *** |
| 17:34.38 | oxi | checking build system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu |
| 17:34.38 | oxi | checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu ... |
| 17:34.41 | wildc4rd | evening all |
| 17:34.50 | jelly | right |
| 17:34.58 | cognitiaclaeves | Anyone know what this means: "The file /boot/grub/stage2 not read correctly." ? How do I generate a new stage2 file? |
| 17:35.25 | zzo38 | But I can't do it because I don't currently have Linux, I just want to know if my softwares (cross-platform softwares) are of sufficient quality that someone might want to have them in a Debian package. |
| 17:35.30 | Titan8990 | cognitiaclaeves, reinstall grub |
| 17:35.30 | oxi | jelly: exactly ... --build=x86_64-i386-linux-gnu ..might do the trick |
| 17:35.40 | cognitiaclaeves | Titan8990: I tried that. |
| 17:35.40 | jelly | no. |
| 17:35.44 | pozic | enouf: I still cannot install nvidia-glx-legacy-71xx then because it depends on the package that results from the module assisant output. |
| 17:35.46 | jelly | oxi: try again. |
| 17:36.02 | cognitiaclaeves | Titan8990: Do I need to purge with apt-get or something? |
| 17:36.03 | Titan8990 | cognitiaclaeves, not reinstall grub to the MBR... reinstall grub |
| 17:36.12 | Titan8990 | cognitiaclaeves, from a chroot using aptitude |
| 17:36.20 | cognitiaclaeves | Titan8990: I tried that too. |
| 17:36.23 | zzo38 | I know the license complies. |
| 17:36.25 | oxi | jelly: .... hmmm --build=x86-i386-linux-gnu ? |
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| 17:36.44 | cognitiaclaeves | Titan8990: I guess I'll try it again. |
| 17:36.45 | pozic | oxi: all that stuff is documented in compiler manuals. |
| 17:36.46 | enouf | 13:20 < pozic> enouf: I am fairly sure that it used to work a few years ago <-- Yes, it did (atleast for me, on i386, when i tried it) however, kernel versions change, and nvidia likes to break kernel things (or vice-versa) :-p |
| 17:36.51 | oxi | jelly: sorry mate for my lack of exerience with build architecture types |
| 17:36.52 | jelly | oxi: why not just replace x86_64 with i386 for start? |
| 17:37.02 | oxi | ok, thanks |
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| 17:37.31 | pozic | enouf: oh, well, then I will give up. Spend enough time on it already and there is another machine here where it does work, so it is not _that_ important. |
| 17:37.33 | Titan8990 | cognitiaclaeves, give purge a try I guess |
| 17:37.36 | jelly | oxi: it's just a matter of pattern recognition, I've no idea what it means either |
| 17:37.41 | oxi | pozic: thanks... I didn't expect that to be there, I'll look into it |
| 17:37.52 | oxi | jelly: ok, thanks a lot for your great help |
| 17:38.11 | enouf | pozic: same Kernel versions and same nvidia pkgs and same Video Card? |
| 17:38.58 | pozic | enouf: I didn't try with the 2.6.18 kernel yet. |
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| 17:39.50 | pozic | enouf: well, I could try that, since I already installed it. It will only take one reboot. I can try that. |
| 17:39.50 | pozic | bbiab |
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| 17:41.01 | oxi | jelly: absolutely awesome! .... ./configure --with-java=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.07 --build=i386-unknown-linux-gnu ... and the errors are all gone! |
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| 17:41.31 | enouf | oxi: doesn't your ./configure --help show you a --build option? |
| 17:42.03 | oxi | enouf: it does, but it doesn't explain |
| 17:42.14 | oxi | and it also shows a --host option |
| 17:42.26 | enouf | then yell at the configure script writer |
| 17:43.08 | oxi | enouf: aight! |
| 17:43.47 | jelly | nothing much to explain, those come by default |
| 17:44.04 | jelly | --help isn't going to have the whole autotools manuals in it |
| 17:44.25 | enouf | No manual entry for autotools |
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| 17:45.55 | pozic | enouf: I cannot install 2.6.18 in sid anymore (the "it is mentioned in the data base but cannot installed"-error). |
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| 17:46.26 | pozic | enouf: (and yes, I could work around that, but I think it is better to just give up). |
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| 17:49.22 | enouf | pozic: are you fingering lines 135-137 etc as the real issue? perhaps #debian-amd64 or the mailing list would have a better reply than i could give |
| 17:49.33 | enouf | http://paste.debian.net/42402/ <-- from your paste pozic |
| 17:50.15 | enouf | or even lines 108 - 113 . |
| 17:50.39 | pozic | enouf: yes, I was thinking of 135-137. |
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| 17:51.00 | pozic | enouf: oh, and also the other lines you mentioned. |
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| 17:51.55 | moustafaza | how can I disable dhcp? |
| 17:52.41 | dutchfish | moustafaza, remove the package or better edit /etc/network/interfaces accordingly |
| 17:53.32 | g00se | moustafaza: why do you want to? |
| 17:53.49 | Titan8990 | moustafaza, when I told you to join #debian, I was saying you should switch to debian |
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| 17:53.55 | Titan8990 | moustafaza, your not ready for gentoo |
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| 17:54.30 | dutchfish | Titan8990, dont judge ... just help ... ontopic |
| 17:54.34 | moustafaza | Titan8990: But I've installed Gentoo many times and it used to work fine I've never had any problem during the installation expect for this one, which is the DNS problem. |
| 17:54.57 | pozic | Titan8990: read the Gentoo handbook :) I heard it makes you feel like an expert ;) |
| 17:55.01 | moustafaza | Titan8990 I'm always able to figure my way through it, except for this 1 silly problem. |
| 17:55.13 | pozic | Oh, sorry , moustafaza |
| 17:55.19 | Titan8990 | dutchfish, you haven't been trying to explain things to him for 15min |
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| 17:55.55 | dutchfish | Titan8990, still.. there are no stupid questions, only stupid answers ;) |
| 17:56.18 | Ezep | claps |
| 17:56.29 | moustafaza | Titan8990 you haven been explaining things to me for 15 minutes about this problem. You just helped me fix the problem which happened to me when I followed zid, so my real problem didn't get fixed yet which is the problem with the DNS. |
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| 17:57.02 | Titan8990 | moustafaza, echo nameserver xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx > /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 17:57.11 | enouf | pozic: perhaps filing a bug about it would help us all that still like our older hardware ;-) |
| 17:57.12 | moustafaza | Titan8990 and I bet you if you can fix anything in google about it, because I've been searching for the last 6 hours |
| 17:57.41 | moustafaza | *find |
| 17:57.49 | Titan8990 | moustafaza, i have been trying to tell you that you are asking the wrong question, you don't "disable" dhcp you configure it otherwise |
| 17:58.05 | enouf | pozic: i mean, it's possible things fall through the cracks as fewer and fewer people are around to test (fewer using older hardware and newer kernels) as newer kernel releases keep coming out |
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| 18:03.42 | Suppermann | Can i use a debian package for squeeze even though I am running Lenny? |
| 18:04.03 | tarzeau | Suppermann: which pkg is it? |
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| 18:04.13 | tarzeau | Suppermann: you should take the source package and build it on lenny... |
| 18:04.18 | Suppermann | libboost1.38 |
| 18:04.24 | jackarutu | I'm looking for advise on installing server latest using SiI 4723 RAID for the OS drive? |
| 18:04.35 | tarzeau | Suppermann: i doubt that'll work properly. but try w/ src pkg |
| 18:04.48 | Suppermann | hm |
| 18:04.53 | enouf | oxi heh, did autoconf generate your configure? |
| 18:05.33 | Suppermann | tarzeau: How do i do that? (I am somewhat of a newbie to debian) |
| 18:06.03 | chellomere | !tell Suppermann about ssb |
| 18:06.06 | husimon | can someone point me at a doc that will explain the throughput differences of the bonding types? |
| 18:06.07 | enouf | Suppermann: /msg dpkg backports.org |
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| 18:06.12 | jackarutu | I've googled my fingers to the bone but can't find a difinative souce on hwo to get Debian to install on the Sil 4723 RAId controller |
| 18:06.15 | husimon | I'm looking at bonding two interfaces for a file storage server |
| 18:06.15 | moustafaza | Titan8990 I really can't figure out how to configure the dhcp otherwise, I've been googling and I read the gentoo networking handbook but all useless for my specific problem. The pinging is working, I can download files and browse, but I can't emerge packages it just keeps on resolving the hostname. |
| 18:06.19 | chellomere | Suppermann, (but replase sid with squeeze) |
| 18:06.23 | chellomere | *replace |
| 18:06.24 | husimon | wanted to maximize both send and receive bandwidth. |
| 18:06.34 | enouf | judd: versions libboost1.38 |
| 18:06.34 | judd | enouf: libboost1.38 -- |
| 18:06.43 | enouf | judd: versions libboost |
| 18:06.43 | judd | enouf: libboost -- |
| 18:06.47 | enouf | oh well |
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| 18:09.28 | husimon | anyone? |
| 18:09.33 | Suppermann | I don't understand this. I think I'll download it from boost.org |
| 18:09.37 | pozic | moustafaza: behind a proxy? |
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| 18:09.47 | steven_ | Hi |
| 18:10.28 | steven_ | anyone knwo how to get fetchmail to delete messages older than a certain period (IMAP) |
| 18:10.44 | enouf | Suppermann: apt-get update ; apt-cache search libboost |
| 18:10.57 | pozic | steven_: it seems more sane to do that in your mailclient. |
| 18:11.05 | enouf | Suppermann: i see in my sid, many 1.38 thingsa |
| 18:11.18 | Suppermann | i am running lenny |
| 18:11.22 | pozic | thinks setting up mail like it should work in the Unix sense it quite difficult, though. |
| 18:11.28 | pozic | is* |
| 18:11.29 | steven_ | pozic: but fetchmail delivers my mail to a maildir so i have all my mail locally |
| 18:11.34 | enouf | so - packages.debian.org would as well - now ... again which package? :-) |
| 18:11.47 | pozic | steven_: yes, so the mailcient you use can delete the mail. |
| 18:12.12 | pozic | steven_: it might be that fetchmail can also do it, but I assume you already ready the manual. |
| 18:12.14 | enouf | Suppermann: libboost1.38 is not a pkg name .. and there are many with 'libboost...' |
| 18:12.14 | steven_ | pozic: but the mail client won't remove the mail from the server... only locally |
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| 18:12.31 | moustafaza | pozic no |
| 18:13.02 | pozic | steven_: ah, ok, that's a slightly different problem. |
| 18:13.06 | steven_ | pozic: the whole point of imap is that mail stays on the server to be accessd from multiple clients :) |
| 18:13.16 | moustafaza | pozic that's why it's so strange, everthing seems to be fine and i'm following the book still I get this strange problem, only when I'm at home :S |
| 18:13.18 | pozic | steven_: yes, I know what the point is of imap. |
| 18:13.24 | enouf | husimon: perhaps ##networking and google for lartc - see if there's a related channel? |
| 18:13.42 | steven_ | but i like mail local, so i download it to a Maildir and a month or so on the server that i can access using my android phone :) |
| 18:13.46 | Suppermann | enouf, it says i need libboost-filesystem1.38.0, libboost-regex1.38.0 and python-support (all newer versions than available in my sources.list) |
| 18:13.59 | enouf | Suppermann: ok - so now we do; |
| 18:14.02 | pozic | steven_: I lost you. |
| 18:14.08 | enouf | judd: versions libboost-filesystem1.38.0 |
| 18:14.08 | judd | enouf: libboost-filesystem1.38.0 -- squeeze: 1.38.0-6 sid: 1.38.0-7 |
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| 18:14.31 | pozic | steven_: you use fetchmail to get your mail in Maildir format. OK. Now, you want to delete mail from _where_ after sometime? |
| 18:14.43 | enouf | ok, that's not in backports, AIUI .. someone correct me if i'm mistaken -- best to search p.d.o |
| 18:14.46 | pozic | steven_: just locally, also on server, just on server? |
| 18:14.53 | steven_ | pozic: sorry what im trying to accomplish is fetchmail access my account via imap, and delvering mail locally, and only deleteing mail older than say 3 months, so on the server will always be 3 monts of email i can access from elsewhere |
| 18:15.21 | pozic | steven_: so, the fetchmail is completely unrelated to the problem. |
| 18:15.43 | enouf | Suppermann: so, you follow the steps that "/msg dpkg ssb" tells you (which was already sent to you in a separate Window as a PM from dpkg by chellomere ) |
| 18:15.49 | pozic | steven_: do you have shell access to the server? |
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| 18:16.23 | steven_ | pozic: nope it's an exchange server :) |
| 18:16.34 | steven_ | imap only |
| 18:16.38 | Suppermann | enouf, but i don't have sid. This is confusing |
| 18:17.02 | enouf | Suppermann: you only need to follow those steps |
| 18:17.17 | steven_ | pozic: no matter i was just hoping someone was using fetchmail the same way already |
| 18:17.31 | petemc | steven_: imapsync works well |
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| 18:17.45 | enouf | Suppermann: you add ONE and only ONE "deb-src ..." line for sid - be sure it's deb-src, not deb .. /msg dpkg deb-src for more about all that |
| 18:17.45 | petemc | it has a maxage option |
| 18:17.46 | steven_ | petemc: thats a new one... |
| 18:17.57 | steven_ | petemc: thanks will check it out |
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| 18:18.33 | enouf | Suppermann: you are basically going to make your own "backport"{ed} package |
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| 18:18.46 | enouf | !backports |
| 18:18.47 | dpkg | [backport] a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.org/. Ask me about <backports.org> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 18:18.59 | enouf | Suppermann: see what dpkg just said |
| 18:19.46 | Suppermann | um |
| 18:20.18 | enouf | !tell Suppermann -about msgthebot |
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| 18:21.22 | enouf | !tell Suppermann -about sources.list |
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| 18:22.27 | Suppermann | okay thank you. I think i know what to de |
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| 18:22.49 | action09 | hi all |
| 18:22.52 | action09 | \0/ |
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| 18:23.35 | Ezep | Anyone uses a SIS 6326 graphic carad? |
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| 18:25.03 | Debmin | sup! |
| 18:25.50 | Debmin | I got an ext3 partition and want make it fat32 without need to reinstall debian... is there a way to change the partition type ext3 to fat32? |
| 18:26.17 | \amethyst | Debmin: is this your root or home partition? |
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| 18:26.38 | Debmin | \amethyst, nope there is nothing there |
| 18:26.41 | DaveyH | Hi. Are PGP key servers all linked? |
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| 18:27.30 | \amethyst | Debmin: then you can use parted or fdisk to change the partition type, and mkdosfs (from the package dosfstools) to format it |
| 18:27.51 | \amethyst | Debmin: just make sure it's not mounted first |
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| 18:28.38 | scientes | it seems that lenny mutes alsa sound channels on boot up |
| 18:28.39 | Debmin | \amethyst, will reboot and try it... brb] |
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| 18:29.20 | g00se | scientes: Does it? What makes you say that? |
| 18:30.01 | dutchfish | DaveyH, http://www.rossde.com/PGP/pgp_keyserv.html#pubserv |
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| 18:31.13 | DaveyH | dutchfish: Is there a command to find out which one you originally uploaded it too? |
| 18:32.46 | mischief | what's the difference between /etc/passwd and /etc/passwd-? |
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| 18:33.29 | tingle | hi, is there a tool to convert gif to png? pref. cli tool. i dont like gimp tbh way to big |
| 18:33.38 | tarzeau | tingle: convert (imagemagick) |
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| 18:34.07 | dutchfish | DaveyH, not sure but i thought it was in the revocation certificate ... |
| 18:34.17 | scientes | g00se, ive seen it happen on two differnt systems |
| 18:34.21 | scientes | both with gnome and without |
| 18:34.28 | DaveyH | dutchfish: Where can I view that |
| 18:34.36 | scientes | every time you boot all the alsa channels are all the way down and muted |
| 18:34.48 | dutchfish | DaveyH, it shoul dbe on your cmputer where you created it |
| 18:34.55 | DaveyH | okt |
| 18:34.58 | DaveyH | thank you |
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| 18:35.18 | tingle | tarzeau: thanks you |
| 18:35.31 | tingle | tarzeau: s/thanks you/thank you/ |
| 18:35.33 | tingle | keke |
| 18:36.06 | dutchfish | DaveyH, here you can find some more links on this topic: http://www.rossde.com/PGP/index.html#links |
| 18:36.07 | enouf | mischief: one's a backup- IINM |
| 18:36.25 | mischief | iinm? |
| 18:37.00 | enouf | erm, there's already a .bak here though too -- hrm, i wonder if i did that :-P |
| 18:37.20 | enouf | -rw------- 1 root root 1231 2006-06-20 13:29 /etc/passwd.bak heh, checkout the date |
| 18:37.54 | enouf | mischief: but note the perms, the one- with the hash appended is NOT world readable |
| 18:38.18 | enouf | nor even group for that matter :-p |
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| 18:38.41 | enouf | $ ls -l /etc/passwd* |
| 18:38.41 | g00se | scientes: I'm curious. I'd be interested in confirmation/refutation of this. In alsaconf, alsa actually uses amixer to mute |
| 18:39.06 | scientes | i will reboot right now and recheck |
| 18:39.11 | hark | scientes: install alsa-utils |
| 18:39.12 | enouf | alsamixer is horribly broken :-( |
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| 18:39.31 | scientes | i have alsa-utils |
| 18:39.36 | mischief | enouf, well, i see there is group(-) shadow(-) gshadow(-) |
| 18:39.46 | scientes | only way i could turn up the volume |
| 18:39.54 | mischief | enouf, i just migrated systems and i need to re-add a user from the old system |
| 18:40.09 | mischief | i only have his password hash and i basically need to create his user then insert his hash |
| 18:40.13 | callahad | Hi, Gnome question (#gnome is dead). If I configure my display with gnome-display-properties (part of gnome-control-center), where the heck does it save the settings? |
| 18:40.16 | mischief | all i'd need to edit is /etc/shadow right? |
| 18:40.32 | enouf | mischief: erm, i think not |
| 18:40.38 | luke3321 | A little help with evolution mail: Even though I have a contact saved with first and last name and an email, when receiving mail from them, it still shows as only there email |
| 18:40.52 | luke3321 | Is there any way to make it show their name as well? |
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| 18:41.31 | mischief | enouf, what needs to be edited then..? |
| 18:42.18 | enouf | atleast both .. but shadow is PAM modules related, so i'd be careful about what you expect as the outcome -- why not just use adduser, or useradd? |
| 18:43.11 | scientes | g00se, meh, guess i was wrong-- however i do have a GNOME lenny system that always starts with alsa muted and volume down |
| 18:43.36 | mischief | enouf, i don't know his password |
| 18:43.40 | mischief | i only have his hash |
| 18:43.54 | mischief | i'm saying - i'm going to adduser, then insert the hash into /etc/shadow |
| 18:43.55 | g00se | scientes: I'm not saying you are wrong. |
| 18:44.22 | scientes | g00se, well on this system it doesnt reset |
| 18:44.27 | scientes | thats what i was saying |
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| 18:45.37 | g00se | scientes: Do you find your mixer settings have been changed? |
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| 18:46.54 | scientes | on the other system |
| 18:47.05 | scientes | always at 0, and muted |
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| 18:47.37 | scientes | its on a SiS ECS chipset, prob AC'97 |
| 18:47.42 | hark | scientes: is alsa-utils installed there as well? |
| 18:47.45 | jefferai | I'm having trouble with the Debian 5.0 installer. It keeps failing on the "Detect and mount CD-ROM" stage. Why that's even necessary I haven't the faintest idea, but it won't get past that. |
| 18:48.08 | g00se | scientes: So - you set the mixer as suits, reboot and find levels down? |
| 18:48.30 | scientes | yep |
| 18:48.31 | mjt | /etc/init.d/alsa-utils save? |
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| 18:48.43 | scientes | not sure if alsa-utils are installed |
| 18:48.58 | mjt | it's the alsa-utils who does save/restore of levels |
| 18:49.04 | enouf | mischief: my password isn't in /etc/passwd and why would you need to know his passwd to generate a brand new user? |
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| 18:49.36 | mjt | 's password is in /etc/tcb |
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| 18:51.07 | action09 | jefferai i'm not sure to help you but when installing, the cdrom modules must be available to access the cdrom (cdrom, ide_cd_mod) maybe.. is it an old cdrom/computer ? |
| 18:51.09 | mischief | enouf, no no.. i know passwords aren't in /etc/passwd |
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| 18:51.32 | mischief | enouf, i want him to be able to log in without having to have me set his password or tell him a new one |
| 18:51.49 | enouf | mischief: but why do you need to use a username's hash? did you delete him at one point? |
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| 18:52.09 | mischief | enouf, i'm migrating machines, and all i have is a backup of the old one |
| 18:52.49 | enouf | mischief: you could make him change his passwd and set a new one - or .. |
| 18:52.55 | hark | jefferai: /msg dpkg usb install |
| 18:53.05 | valdyn | mischief: just reuse his /etc/shadow entry |
| 18:53.12 | jefferai | hark: I can't do a USB install |
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| 18:53.33 | mischief | valdyn, that's what i am asking, is /etc/shadow the only thing i need to update after i adduser <user> ? |
| 18:53.44 | valdyn | mischief: I think so |
| 18:53.51 | jefferai | action09: No, it's a very new computer. It's loading the installation program off of the DVD, which is why I don't quite understand why it then needs to re-mount the CD (which fails) |
| 18:54.25 | jefferai | I've installed various other distros on this same machine successfully (Kubuntu, CentOS, Gentoo) with their respective installation discs |
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| 18:54.35 | enouf | valdyn: i bet that would work - yes, however, couldn't issues arise should versions of PAM be different, or installed software on one box different than the other (i realize now, about the migration thing, so doesn't apply in this case) -- any thoughts though? |
| 18:54.52 | valdyn | enouf: crypt is the same everywhere |
| 18:55.08 | enouf | hrmph |
| 18:55.27 | action09 | jefferai i see :/ if i were you i'd start to search on special boot parameters during the install (like noapic, noacpi) but referring to cdrom options.. look in F1,F2,F3 options at start |
| 18:55.39 | jefferai | action09: good advice, will try |
| 18:55.43 | valdyn | enouf: confirming to: SVr4, 4.3BSD, POSIX.1-2001. crypt_r() is a GNU extension. |
| 18:55.48 | valdyn | enouf: ^^ manpage |
| 18:55.54 | action09 | jefferai hop succeed :) |
| 18:56.02 | jefferai | I'll let you know |
| 18:56.24 | enouf | valdyn: interesting, thanks for the pointer |
| 18:57.21 | g00se | scientes: fwiw i have problems at boot time too. Sometimes i have to run alsaconf to restore sound |
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| 18:58.12 | action09 | can anyone tell me the difference in debian pkg between mozilla-firefox-adblock and adblock-plus ??? :) |
| 18:58.25 | jefferai | action09: erm, it doesn't display options for F1, F2, F3 like most installation discs |
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| 18:58.34 | valdyn | jefferai: its not reading anything off the dvd, your bios is doing that |
| 18:58.49 | valdyn | jefferai: and the bios can only read the floppy image on that cdrom |
| 18:59.04 | action09 | jefferai at boot ? when you can select expert install...etc you can pass parameters afair |
| 18:59.29 | jefferai | valdyn: dunno, I'm more used to the Gentoo install where it just loads the environment off the disc and you get going :-) |
| 18:59.33 | Ezep | enouf: knowing the changes to xorg, if for example, I want to change the resolution, how may I do it? |
| 18:59.41 | jefferai | action09: yeah, I just saw that..you hit Tab |
| 18:59.43 | valdyn | jefferai: it does not work any different on gentoo |
| 19:00.08 | jefferai | valdyn: maybe, but Gentoo doesn't tell me it wants to remount the CD drive and then fail to do so :-) |
| 19:00.27 | valdyn | jefferai: it just doesnt fail |
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| 19:00.48 | jefferai | yes, that's my point |
| 19:00.49 | valdyn | jefferai: and you arent telling us that gentoo is using a newer kernel than 2.6.26 |
| 19:01.08 | valdyn | !kmuto |
| 19:01.08 | dpkg | For Debian Lenny (or Etch) installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ . The included <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files (in 0627 images) are required to be moved prior to network hardware detection, see comments of http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2630-lenny.htm |
| 19:01.16 | enouf | jefferai: are you using the 5.0.2 version of the installer? and ... you can check output on alt-f4 for messages, ...also you might need a kernel module that's not in the installer kernel for your controller, or |
| 19:01.16 | valdyn | jefferai: ^^^ |
| 19:01.19 | jefferai | Sure, 2.6.30. Although CentOS was using 2.6.18 (with Red Hat's uber-backporting) |
| 19:01.38 | jefferai | enouf: yes, 5.0.2 |
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| 19:01.55 | enouf | jefferai: try passing libata.atapi_enable=1 or something |
| 19:02.01 | valdyn | jefferai: i dont know which drivers got backported by redhat |
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| 19:02.11 | jefferai | valdyn: neither do I |
| 19:02.20 | valdyn | !which driver |
| 19:02.20 | dpkg | To work out what module you need to load for your PCI card, try pasting the output from "lspci -n" into http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ . To determine the driver currently associated with an existing network interface: grep PHYSDEVDRIVER /sys/class/net/*/uevent |
| 19:02.25 | valdyn | jefferai: ^^ |
| 19:02.31 | jefferai | valdyn: what about it? |
| 19:02.52 | valdyn | jefferai: get the pci id of your disk controller and figure out which kernels support your disk controller |
| 19:03.24 | jefferai | valdyn: why are you assuming that it's not supported? |
| 19:03.31 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.33 | valdyn | jefferai: Im not |
| 19:03.48 | valdyn | jefferai: im assuming you didnt check the most obvious things, like if your device is supported |
| 19:03.56 | jefferai | valdyn: sure it's supported |
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| 19:04.07 | jefferai | has a sneaking suspicion he knows what the problem is |
| 19:04.18 | enouf | jefferai: perhaps not via the installer kernel |
| 19:04.34 | valdyn | jefferai: you dont know if its supported by the lenny installer |
| 19:04.36 | jefferai | There are two drives -- I think it's looking in the wrong drive |
| 19:04.52 | jefferai | valdyn: true, it could be a regression in lenny |
| 19:04.55 | enouf | or .. if it's a SATA dvd drive, enable AHCI in your BIOS, and such |
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| 19:04.55 | valdyn | jefferai: thats easy to check |
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| 19:05.16 | veritos | Why is the kdelibs 4 package called kdelibs5? |
| 19:05.22 | enouf | haha |
| 19:05.31 | valdyn | jefferai: you said "its a very new computer" |
| 19:05.42 | valdyn | jefferai: that doesnt make "regression" likely i guess |
| 19:05.43 | jefferai | veritos: because deb version numbers go by SO version |
| 19:05.49 | g00se | jefferai: It's probably little to do with 'regression' |
| 19:05.54 | jefferai | valdyn: well, Debian 4.0 worked |
| 19:06.05 | jefferai | if 5.0 doesn't work on the same hardware... |
| 19:06.27 | enouf | jefferai: as valdyn is mentioning - even though i see you said "Although CentOS was using 2.6.18" like stated - it's probably been patched to death |
| 19:06.29 | action09 | valdyn if it's a computer older than a week it's regression ^^ |
| 19:06.44 | jefferai | enouf: of course it has, that's what I said |
| 19:06.52 | enouf | now _that_ would be insane |
| 19:06.52 | valdyn | jefferai: i didnt know and i dont yet understand why you used 4.0 on that new box |
| 19:07.00 | enouf | jefferai: you're trolling |
| 19:07.15 | abrotman | it's also possible the centos kernel included some blob that the debian kernel didn't |
| 19:07.18 | jefferai | valdyn: I used a product (Vyatta) that was based on older non-Lenny debian install |
| 19:07.20 | valdyn | jefferai: and if it *is* a new box then 4.0 doesnt support it |
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| 19:07.29 | valdyn | jefferai: Vyatta isnt debian |
| 19:07.33 | enouf | abrotman: that's my point precisely |
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| 19:07.39 | jefferai | valdyn: why must a new box not be supported by 4.0? |
| 19:07.42 | enouf | valdyn: indeed |
| 19:07.50 | valdyn | jefferai: because thats how it works |
| 19:07.53 | Sazpaimon | looks like they just took my server down for the ram change |
| 19:07.56 | jefferai | that's nonsense |
| 19:07.57 | enouf | jefferai: hardware is too new for kernel ... |
| 19:08.05 | jefferai | enouf: that's just an assumption |
| 19:08.20 | abrotman | jefferai: usually the driver will have a set of IDs that it will support .. if that kernel didn't know about it .. it's not going to magically try them all |
| 19:08.26 | valdyn | jefferai: you shouldnt come here, ask a question, get actually useful advice, then ignore that advice |
| 19:08.29 | enouf | jefferai: a pretty positive 99% sure one ;-) |
| 19:08.29 | Sazpaimon | they said they would do it at 12:22, and its now 15:07 |
| 19:08.29 | jefferai | I said it was a new box, not that every piece of hardware in it isn't supported in kernels before 2.6.30 |
| 19:08.34 | valdyn | jefferai: im not into teaching you hardware basics |
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| 19:08.47 | Sazpaimon | so it took just under 3 hours for them to respond to the ticket |
| 19:08.59 | jefferai | valdyn: I don't need you to teach me hardware basics. I understand them. What I'm waiting for is for you to elaborate on your previous comment. |
| 19:09.15 | jefferai | abrotman: yes, I'm well aware of thsi |
| 19:09.25 | jefferai | valdyn: I told you that I believed it was looking in the wrong CD drive |
| 19:09.30 | jefferai | you said "that's easy to check" |
| 19:09.35 | jefferai | and didn't actually tell me how to do so |
| 19:09.40 | valdyn | jefferai: run dmesg |
| 19:09.41 | jefferai | or how to force it to use the right one |
| 19:09.55 | abrotman | jefferai: so if your hardware was created after say .. Feb 2007 .. might not be supported |
| 19:09.55 | enouf | put the DVD in the other drive! :-p |
| 19:10.11 | jefferai | enouf: I can't |
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| 19:10.11 | valdyn | jefferai: or unplug the other drive |
| 19:10.19 | jefferai | can't do that either (remote install) |
| 19:10.19 | enouf | hah ... it's a CD only drive? |
| 19:10.22 | abrotman | and he's using the etch installer? or the lenny installer? |
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| 19:10.29 | valdyn | abrotman: lenny |
| 19:10.29 | jefferai | abrotman: lenny |
| 19:10.39 | abrotman | abrotman: lenny |
| 19:10.47 | enouf | haha |
| 19:10.52 | action09 | lenny: yes ? |
| 19:10.56 | abrotman | do we konw the PCIIDs of the system ? |
| 19:11.06 | enouf | not one bit |
| 19:11.12 | g00se | jefferai: So what DOES dmesg say? |
| 19:11.19 | jefferai | g00se: looking right now |
| 19:11.36 | abrotman | g00se: Welcome to McDonald's, Would you like to super size your meal |
| 19:12.21 | g00se | jefferai: I don't think that's the lenny installer |
| 19:12.33 | jefferai | g00se: you don't think what is the lenny installer? |
| 19:12.43 | enouf | alt-f2 and modprobe the needed controller or something, it's easy enough to do - if that is indeed the issue (unloaded module that is there, and would work, if only inserted) |
| 19:12.47 | jpinx-eeepc | applies a hot hamburger to abrotman s leg |
| 19:13.02 | g00se | jefferai: never mind |
| 19:13.03 | abrotman | oh .. |
| 19:13.14 | jefferai | enouf: you're assuming that the needed controller isn't already loaded by the kernel, which is an incorrect assumption |
| 19:13.29 | valdyn | jefferai: how do you know that? |
| 19:13.32 | enouf | jefferai: that's what i said |
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| 19:13.40 | jefferai | because dmesg shows the kernel detecting the drive and assigning it a device node |
| 19:13.47 | valdyn | jefferai: good |
| 19:13.59 | enouf | jefferai: detecting BOTH optical drives? |
| 19:14.09 | enouf | or .. are there more that 2? |
| 19:14.16 | enouf | s/that/than |
| 19:14.26 | jefferai | there are two, and I'm looking for the second one...I'm hampered by a lack of scrollback and no "less" command :-) |
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| 19:14.33 | jefferai | the one that the disc is actually in is definitely detected |
| 19:14.38 | enouf | shift+pageup |
| 19:14.48 | jefferai | enouf: I didn't say I don't know how to use scrollback |
| 19:14.56 | jefferai | you guys really keep assuming everyone is an idiot |
| 19:14.57 | enouf | gives up |
| 19:15.23 | jefferai | enouf: I said I have a lack of scrollback, which is because there are issues with the iKVM software |
| 19:15.27 | abrotman | wasn't there a libata option you could pass to the instaler ? |
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| 19:15.30 | jefferai | I can't properly send PgUp/PgDown |
| 19:16.26 | jefferai | Anyways, yes, both drives are detected...sr0 and sr1 |
| 19:16.38 | jefferai | the one with the (proper) disc in it is sr1 |
| 19:16.43 | jefferai | my guess is that the installer is looking in sr0 |
| 19:16.54 | valdyn | jefferai: you can access the bios? |
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| 19:17.03 | jefferai | yes, but I'd rather not disabled the drive |
| 19:17.09 | jefferai | *disable |
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| 19:17.33 | valdyn | jefferai: you can probably reverse the order |
| 19:17.52 | jefferai | hm, maybe |
| 19:18.02 | jefferai | there's no explicit option to do so, but if I change the boot order, it might let me |
| 19:18.08 | abrotman | you could see if has a legacy mode ? |
| 19:18.11 | valdyn | jefferai: that should do it |
| 19:18.17 | abrotman | wait .. is it even sata ? |
| 19:18.21 | jefferai | valdyn: is there any way to tell the installer specifically to use cd drive X? |
| 19:18.32 | valdyn | jefferai: no idea, i dont really know the installer |
| 19:18.39 | jefferai | OK |
| 19:18.48 | jefferai | abrotman: the problem isn't it reading the disc |
| 19:18.53 | jefferai | the problem is it using the wrong drive |
| 19:19.20 | valdyn | jefferai: you can probably switch one drive off with a boot option too |
| 19:19.22 | abrotman | jefferai: i realize that |
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| 19:19.44 | jefferai | valdyn: true...I would prefer to have both available at install time, but can do that if need be |
| 19:19.53 | jefferai | (in that case I could just do it in the BIOS too) |
| 19:21.48 | enouf | abrotman: FWIW, i mentioned the "libata.atapi_enabled=1" earlier - there's also the generic.all_generic_ide=1 option that one could try - though, shouldn't be an issue for a .26 anymore -- or .. right, now i'm forgetting Lenny has .26 .. i kept thinking of .18 .. wtf? |
| 19:22.02 | g00se | jefferai: Just to recap - you're 'loading the installer off of a DVD'? |
| 19:22.38 | abrotman | that was it! |
| 19:22.54 | valdyn | thats irrelevant anyway |
| 19:23.08 | abrotman | valdyn: i thought it might have been a SATA issue |
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| 19:23.37 | enouf | he's got a misconfigured BIOS ; done |
| 19:23.40 | enouf | ;-) |
| 19:24.16 | valdyn | god knows why the installer is thinking that the boot drive is sr0 |
| 19:24.17 | enouf | votes to fire the McDonald's manager |
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| 19:26.23 | goldins | can I run wlan devices in AP mode if they are using ndiswrapper drivers? |
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| 19:27.10 | enouf | goldins: you might get more/better answers in ##linux or ##networking if nobody here chimes in |
| 19:27.22 | abrotman | #wireless ? |
| 19:27.27 | enouf | even better |
| 19:27.54 | enouf | keeps forgetting *all* available channels :-p |
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| 19:28.56 | tawan | does anyone have a sucessful way to launch nm-applet in debian/openbox as my variations on "sleep 4 && sudo nm-applet &" are all failing |
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| 19:29.40 | dec3pti0n | does anyone know if there will be a postgres 8.4 backport for etch ? |
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| 19:30.51 | stew | dec3pti0n: ask the backports mailing list(s) |
| 19:30.54 | jefferai | g00se: The Lenny install DVD is in a dvd drive. I don't know exactly how the Lenny installer behaves. |
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| 19:31.05 | loulouloulou | Hi I am getting this error .. mkdir: cannot create directory `./keys/autoUsers/xvp-009765fvwb/ssl': Not a directory |
| 19:31.05 | loulouloulou | .. |
| 19:31.06 | enouf | tawan: how and where are you placing that? |
| 19:31.11 | loulouloulou | however that is a dir ..i mean I can cd into it |
| 19:31.15 | enouf | tawan: man openbox openbox-gnome-session openbox-kde-session openbox-session |
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| 19:32.18 | tawan | enouf, in ~/.config/openbox/autostart.sh |
| 19:32.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | how does one free loop devices? |
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| 19:33.17 | enouf | tawan: i just never used nm-applet, does it need to come up prior to runlevel2? if so, then you want /etc/network/interfaces (or, the proper /if-{pre.post}up/ dir) .. otherwise rc.local would be ok |
| 19:33.32 | enouf | tawan: oh, hrm, likely too late to start it? |
| 19:33.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | losetup! |
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| 19:34.24 | tawan | enouf, ok will try i guessed in autostart.sh and some forum posts were saying similar but i will place it else where |
| 19:34.26 | enouf | tawan: does a /etc/init.d/nm-applet or similar exist? |
| 19:34.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | and they do go away automatically when you unmount :) |
| 19:34.56 | enouf | CutMeOwnThroat: heh - a little late?, hrm? :-p |
| 19:35.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | ? |
| 19:35.08 | tawan | enouf, no entry in init.d |
| 19:35.23 | enouf | CutMeOwnThroat: wasn't that leftover from yesterday? |
| 19:35.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | enouf, I answered my own question... |
| 19:35.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | no |
| 19:35.41 | enouf | it wasn't you asking ... heh |
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| 19:36.23 | tawan | enouf, although there is a networking-manager (just not the applet) |
| 19:36.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | wouldn't have occured to me |
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| 19:37.07 | enouf | tawan: hrm ... what's the pkgname? and what is it you want to happen, and when? Also, is your /etc/sudoers configured properly? -- is the applet related to it? |
| 19:37.27 | jefferai | valdyn: changing the boot order didn't change the order in the installation environment :-| Guess I'm down to disabling the disc in the BIOS after all |
| 19:37.54 | enouf | CutMeOwnThroat: i have mount/points that don't go away that i regularly use for loop'ing mounts |
| 19:38.52 | tawan | enouf, possibly related to sudoers as i have to launch the applet with sudo nm-applet from termainal - the package is simply called network-manager.I want it to launch at log on so i have wifi |
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| 19:39.19 | enouf | tawan: is it (the applet) supposed to bring up an iface? |
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| 19:40.12 | enouf | tawan: IOW, does ifconfig or even ls /sys/class/net show the wireless iface even when nm-applet isn't coming up? |
| 19:40.31 | sponzor | when will debian support ext4? |
| 19:40.48 | enouf | there's ext4-dev in Lenny |
| 19:41.08 | enouf | in testing and sid, there's more / better support |
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| 19:41.16 | sponzor | ok |
| 19:41.43 | enouf | sponzor: see the e2fstools pkg. IIRC, read the changelogs - compare dates when things were done |
| 19:41.49 | tmpuser | hi, i've just installed squeeze. Would you please suggest me how to make fonts look better? |
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| 19:42.31 | viric_ | Hello all |
| 19:42.47 | enouf | sponzor: bah, it's e2fsprogs |
| 19:42.49 | viric_ | How can I install the debug symbols for the ld interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so* ? |
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| 19:43.32 | tarzeau | viric_: what are you trying to debug? |
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| 19:43.44 | j00bar | howdy! i'm trying to build a .deb package and my .deb package needs to stomp on a config file in a conf.d directory installed by another package -- what's best practices in this regard? |
| 19:44.40 | peterrooney | j00bar: change your filename, or explicitly declare a conflict. |
| 19:44.42 | enouf | viric_: ~$ apt-cache search libc6 debug |
| 19:44.52 | jefferai | enouf: valdyn: abrotman: etc. That was it -- it was only looking at /dev/sr0...hope they fix that someday :-( |
| 19:44.52 | enouf | viric_: nm |
| 19:45.01 | j00bar | peterrooney: i'd be happy to change my filename -- how do i ensure that mine is the one that wins out versus theirs? |
| 19:45.13 | viric_ | enouf: I'll try |
| 19:45.24 | viric_ | I don't get any answer from that search libc6 debug |
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| 19:45.34 | j00bar | peterrooney: if it matters, this conf.d is /etc/php5/conf.d |
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| 19:45.42 | viric_ | ah, libc6-dbg maybe |
| 19:45.42 | enouf | i know - neither do i - hence the nm |
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| 19:45.51 | enouf | e2dbg - The Embedded ELF debugger Yes- though |
| 19:46.04 | jdu | if isolinux on debian lenny complains about a bad disk checksum, and my test of the cd is the following: http://pastebin.com/f12c6404d (correct md5sum after dding the cd back to disk), does it most likely mean my disc is bad, or is there some other problem? |
| 19:46.19 | enouf | ~$ apt-cache search dbg libc6 |
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| 19:46.21 | enouf | libc6-dbg - GNU C Library: detached debugging symbols |
| 19:46.30 | enouf | should know better |
| 19:46.31 | jdu | or a bad cdrom drive |
| 19:46.39 | jdu | probably more likely? |
| 19:46.45 | viric_ | enouf: where are the debug files installed? |
| 19:46.46 | peterrooney | j00bar: try apt-file search /etc/php5/conf.d/<proposed-filename> |
| 19:47.15 | enouf | jefferai: could you perhaps file an Installation report? |
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| 19:47.40 | j00bar | peterrooney: so i assume that the conf.d files are processed sequentially and therefore if theirs is processed before mine, mine will be the one whose configuration persists. what's the ordering they are processed in? |
| 19:47.41 | tmpuser | no one? |
| 19:48.02 | viric_ | enouf: ok, got it! |
| 19:48.04 | enouf | jefferai: /msg dpkg reportbug |
| 19:48.12 | enouf | viric_: cool |
| 19:48.33 | jefferai | enouf: yes, I can |
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| 19:48.42 | peterrooney | j00bar: i could not say. it may be that the ordering is not explicitly carved in stone; i'm not familiar enough with php5 in particular to comment on that. |
| 19:49.00 | enouf | viric_: i use dlocate, you can use dpkg -S, or dpkg -L <pkgname> as update-dlocatedb would need to be run on newly installed things to find thing |
| 19:49.18 | sponzor | should boot be primary or logical? |
| 19:49.19 | adb | enouf: what's your browser? : links -g |
| 19:49.21 | peterrooney | j00bar: Umm, I mean, I dno't know if they're read in any order. |
| 19:49.24 | sponzor | /boot ivn |
| 19:49.38 | j00bar | peterrooney: k. thx for your help. |
| 19:49.38 | viric_ | enouf: why you tell me about dlocate? |
| 19:49.46 | enouf | viric_: generally, you should have a cron job running cron,daily that runs the script each day, so the DB is never older than 1 day |
| 19:49.47 | jdu | sponzor, doesn't matter as long as the boot load supports it (grub does) |
| 19:49.54 | viric_ | enouf: Ah, I didn't knew at all what files to find. |
| 19:49.55 | sponzor | ok |
| 19:49.59 | enouf | cron<DOT>daily heh |
| 19:50.10 | viric_ | enouf: I didn't know of /usr/lib/debug before. |
| 19:50.23 | enouf | viric_: me neither :-p |
| 19:50.30 | jdu | sponzor, though I have always left it primary myself... |
| 19:50.36 | enouf | adb: yes, links2 -g though |
| 19:50.38 | adb | enouf: cool , thanks |
| 19:50.45 | enouf | ;-) |
| 19:51.00 | enouf | jefferai: thanks |
| 19:51.04 | Ezep | Framebuffer rockz |
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| 19:51.46 | enouf | viric_: dlocate is fast, just like locate is (when performing general searches) |
| 19:52.31 | viric_ | enouf: Ok. But that only helps if you know the names of the files you want. |
| 19:52.34 | jefferai | enouf: stupid question, how do I actually report a bug on the web interface? |
| 19:52.42 | jefferai | it says how to email them in, or how to use reportbug |
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| 19:52.49 | enouf | viric_: not really - but you need some sort of outline, sure |
| 19:53.06 | chellomere | jefferai, you can't. |
| 19:53.07 | enouf | jefferai: you know? i'm not sure offhand ... |
| 19:53.12 | rahsputin | what does the bin: /usr/bin/[ do ? |
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| 19:53.22 | themill | rahsputin: man [ |
| 19:53.35 | rahsputin | thankx |
| 19:53.37 | enouf | jefferai: IIRC, reportbug can save your report so you can then later send it, however ... |
| 19:53.42 | tmpuser | just say yes or no :-): apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer ? |
| 19:53.46 | jefferai | meh, oh well |
| 19:54.37 | enouf | jefferai: you could join the debian-boot mailing list and send it that way i guess too |
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| 19:55.05 | jefferai | OK. I'll look around |
| 19:55.06 | enouf | jefferai: that's what i did initially, IIRC, i then sent it using web mail interface or something |
| 19:55.19 | iluminator101 | is there an open source software similar to tversity? |
| 19:55.30 | jefferai | iluminator101: ps3mediaserver |
| 19:55.34 | jefferai | (it's not just for ps3s) |
| 19:55.37 | petemc | ushare |
| 19:55.44 | jefferai | mediatomb |
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| 19:56.00 | maligor | ps3mediaserver? |
| 19:56.08 | enouf | themill: shanme on you ;-) ~$ type [ |
| 19:56.13 | jefferai | http://code.google.com/p/ps3mediaserver/ |
| 19:56.15 | enouf | er, shame even |
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| 19:56.20 | jefferai | it's awesome |
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| 19:56.25 | themill | enouf: what about it? |
| 19:56.29 | enouf | 'help [' |
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| 19:56.34 | iluminator101 | well which one is the most reliable of the ones you mentioned |
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| 19:56.39 | jefferai | ps3mediaserver |
| 19:56.41 | enouf | themill: the man page is not for shell builtins? |
| 19:56.41 | themill | enouf: that doesn't tell you what /usr/bin/[ is though |
| 19:56.47 | enouf | oh, i suck - sorry |
| 19:56.47 | jefferai | I've tried mediatomb, tversity, and that |
| 19:56.47 | maligor | it's a shame UPnP is such a piece of crud tho |
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| 19:57.00 | jefferai | maligor: maybe, but the DLNA part of it works quite well |
| 19:57.04 | jefferai | if you have a non-sucky server |
| 19:57.06 | enouf | themill: you are so correct ... he DID say the binary ,,, duh |
| 19:57.13 | themill | :) |
| 19:57.14 | maligor | jefferai, well, mediatomb seems to flakify for my clients |
| 19:57.31 | maligor | sometimes it finds it, and when it doesn't, sometimes restarting it helps .P |
| 19:57.32 | jefferai | yes |
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| 19:57.44 | jefferai | so try something else :-) |
| 19:57.46 | petemc | ushare works for me |
| 19:57.52 | klikklak | hi, is there a way to pipe a file to tail over ftp? |
| 19:57.59 | viric_ | How can I know what package a file came from? |
| 19:58.14 | amphi | viric_: apt-file or dpkg -S |
| 19:58.16 | maligor | made me think of writing my own upnp client and got somewhere too until I realized I'd go mad if I finished it |
| 19:58.16 | klikklak | apt-file search |
| 19:58.22 | iluminator101 | Would PS3 Media Server work with xbox360 |
| 19:58.27 | jefferai | yes |
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| 19:58.30 | jefferai | as I said |
| 19:58.34 | jefferai | it's not just for the PS3 |
| 19:58.38 | jefferai | it was just originally started for it |
| 19:58.48 | jefferai | uses it with his 360 |
| 19:59.11 | maligor | err.. it's java? |
| 19:59.15 | jefferai | the 360 is a bit more finicky about some formats, but when you're browsing media, pay attention to the TRANSCODE folder |
| 19:59.17 | jefferai | yes, it's java |
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| 19:59.27 | jefferai | using a plethora of other stuff under the hood |
| 19:59.41 | maligor | I think I'll skip trying to use it on my armel 500mhz with 64mb ram then |
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| 20:03.09 | jefferai | maligor: it's not the server that's heavyweight, it's any transcoding that may need to be done |
| 20:03.44 | petemc | that, and the java |
| 20:03.58 | viric_ | I'm trying to debug a program using the interpreter in /usr/lib/debug |
| 20:03.59 | viric_ | I use: |
| 20:04.16 | viric_ | LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/debug /usr/lib/debug/ld-linux* ./myprogram |
| 20:04.21 | viric_ | this works |
| 20:04.26 | viric_ | but I don't know how can I run gdb on that. |
| 20:04.41 | jefferai | petemc: you can, believe it or not, have relatively lightweight java apps these days |
| 20:04.58 | jefferai | (or maybe it's that most other apps have gotten so bloated that they look lightweight now :-) ) |
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| 20:07.17 | simonrvn | jefferai: i think the latter... |
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| 20:08.17 | simonrvn | the mentality of waste amongst some programmers should stop, not get worse. |
| 20:08.34 | viric_ | Starting program: /usr/lib/debug/ld-linux.so.3 /usr/lib/debug/ld-linux.so.3 ./patchelf |
| 20:08.37 | viric_ | Cannot access memory at address 0x256b0 |
| 20:09.15 | paxcoder | simonrvn: agreed, any proposals in how to achieve that? |
| 20:09.52 | simonrvn | start thinking that you don't have lots of memory, code like you're working with 64 MB of RAM |
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| 20:10.22 | paxcoder | simonrvn: oh that. sure. |
| 20:10.25 | simonrvn | think that you have 20 MB of drive space to work with. |
| 20:11.07 | paxcoder | i never wrote a prog that needed any more - save a rabbit that i only ran on my own PC to see how forking works |
| 20:11.33 | simonrvn | then it'll slowly get ingrained.. "conserve! recycle! reuse!" - it's also good for long-term, less resource use (everything, not just the system it's running on) |
| 20:11.48 | maligor | simonrvn, well... the 64mb ram armel has 360GB of drive space :P |
| 20:11.59 | simonrvn | eco or green programming i guess |
| 20:12.34 | simonrvn | then you get ppl like me bitching so much :P |
| 20:12.38 | maligor | the upnp server I partially built used libdb for minimum footprint |
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| 20:12.47 | jelly-home | maligor: that's nothing, I have a 128MB arm (not even armel) with 2TB. |
| 20:12.51 | simonrvn | don't get* , sorry |
| 20:13.33 | jelly-home | slow arm is slow. |
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| 20:13.47 | maligor | jelly-home, why not armel? |
| 20:13.53 | maligor | a ancient core? |
| 20:14.20 | jelly-home | maligor: yep |
| 20:14.30 | jelly-home | a 2008 product |
| 20:14.38 | simonrvn | paxcoder: i could expound on it, i have a coupla ideas brewing |
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| 20:15.17 | maligor | jelly-home, what? it doesn't have thumb? |
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| 20:17.05 | jelly-home | maligor: right. It's an arm4something, arm5+ have thumb afaik |
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| 20:17.36 | maligor | got to love them cheap asian arm copies :P |
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| 20:23.37 | cizra | Hi. How to tell dpkg-buildpackage not to strip the binaries? I once knew but forgot. |
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| 20:26.38 | vvvv | What does this mean?: [ 6615.662550] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Sense Key : No Sense [current] |
| 20:26.38 | vvvv | [ 6615.662559] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Add. Sense: No additional sense information |
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| 20:27.44 | enouf | cizra: dh_makeshlibs (1) - automatically create shlibs file and call dpkg-gensymbols ? |
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| 20:28.36 | abrotman | vvvv: uname -a |
| 20:29.38 | vvvv | Linux voip 2.6.24-24-generic #1 SMP Wed Apr 15 15:54:25 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 20:29.59 | abrotman | vvvv: please ask #ubuntu |
| 20:30.00 | vvvv | happens when i try to copy things from a usb ide adapter |
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| 20:30.05 | paissad | hi everybody ! |
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| 20:30.40 | abrotman | vvvv: you should be using #ubuntu for support, this channel supports Debian |
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| 20:30.51 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 20:30.54 | vvvv | But the question is not related to ubuntu |
| 20:31.05 | paissad | i'm trying to install debian for the 1st time with the netinst.iso i downloaded but the matter is that during the installation, i got corrupted files which cannot be installled |
| 20:31.05 | abrotman | and how is it related to Debian ? |
| 20:31.09 | enouf | cizra: the binaries (contained within a pkg) would have to be built with their symbols enabled, i don't think dpkg-buildpackage has anything to do with that--per se ... it's more that you'd need those _other_ pkgs in order to build the binaries as non-stripped in the 1st place |
| 20:31.10 | paissad | so that the setup aborted ! |
| 20:31.11 | vvvv | Also not |
| 20:31.18 | abrotman | right .. have a good day |
| 20:31.28 | paissad | btw, i had checked the md5sum of the iso i donwloaded |
| 20:31.31 | paissad | it was ok |
| 20:31.35 | pickcoder | paissad: try different CD media, a different CD reader, and check the md5 sum |
| 20:31.50 | paissad | ok |
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| 20:31.54 | pickcoder | I've gone through 10 CDs before with half the install working fine |
| 20:31.58 | cizra | enouf: um. I thought dpkg-buildpackage compiles binaries and has the option of stripping them or not. |
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| 20:32.01 | pickcoder | when I changed CD brands it worked the first time |
| 20:32.07 | cizra | enouf: What other pkgs? |
| 20:32.10 | abrotman | usually works way better if you burn the ISOs at a slower speed |
| 20:32.16 | abrotman | like 8x or slower |
| 20:32.24 | enouf | vvvv: those things are fromthe SCSI MMC set, whichever version we're up to .... - you could likely grep the kernel code even for such messages |
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| 20:32.26 | pickcoder | abrotman: I've seen no difference on cheap media between 8X and 32X |
| 20:32.32 | pickcoder | they all at the same point |
| 20:32.35 | pickcoder | ~all fail |
| 20:32.46 | abrotman | pickcoder: i'm saying to not go faster than 8x .. i personally burn at 4x for ISOs |
| 20:32.49 | maligor | paissad, I also hope you're not trying to install IA64 on AMD64 system |
| 20:32.50 | pickcoder | some readers read thin media better than others too |
| 20:32.58 | enouf | cizra: dpkg-buildpackage builds the .deb, there are many other tools - (see the devscripts pkg) |
| 20:33.00 | pickcoder | abrotman: yeah.. 4/8X is definately safer |
| 20:33.06 | pickcoder | definitely |
| 20:33.22 | maligor | I think I've ever had 2 coasters |
| 20:33.26 | enouf | cizra: for the real nitty-gritty; /msg dpkg mentors |
| 20:33.37 | maligor | but I don't buy crap discs |
| 20:34.06 | cizra | enouf: Thanks for the tips. I'll dig deeper. |
| 20:34.13 | action09 | http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/7/20/167 |
| 20:34.14 | action09 | lol |
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| 20:34.38 | action09 | MS is maybe going to release next version (after 7..8) in GPLv3 ? |
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| 20:35.04 | action09 | sorry for the post i tought it was important enough |
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| 20:35.35 | paissad | maligor, no :) |
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| 20:37.25 | jelly-home | action09: it's not debian related at all |
| 20:38.02 | paxcoder | action09: i don't think so (about v3). nor is this any good news. it's even borderline interesting. |
| 20:38.23 | paxcoder | *considering the agenda |
| 20:38.57 | cizra | enouf: I got what I wanted. Thanks. |
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| 20:39.33 | \amethyst | action09: I don't see how it would help to release the drivers under GPLv3 |
| 20:39.44 | \amethyst | action09: that would just prevent them from being included in the kernel |
| 20:40.51 | action09 | yes |
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| 20:41.07 | action09 | jelly-home yes it's ye i said 'sorry for the post..' |
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| 20:41.12 | action09 | anyway |
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| 20:41.14 | action09 | :) |
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| 20:54.27 | testbunny | hi all, wondering if i could get a full install of Debian Lenny KDE onto a partition of 2.66GB? |
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| 20:54.41 | JPT | mhh |
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| 20:55.20 | JPT | it took me ~16 minutes for the netinstall... |
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| 20:55.46 | Ezep | JPT: pro x) |
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| 20:56.02 | JPT | testbunny: it might fit, but there won't be very much free space left |
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| 20:56.38 | Ezep | testbunny: yea, it'll fit |
| 20:56.40 | paissad | hey, i'm installing the debian-502, and the proposed kernels to install are linux-image -2.6 and 2.6.26.6 |
| 20:56.54 | testbunny | hmm is only a quick fix to Vista DVD fail, want to bang in a dual boot |
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| 20:56.57 | paissad | not at least 2.6.27 |
| 20:57.06 | testbunny | Ezep: thanks |
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| 20:57.20 | paissad | it's amd64 |
| 20:57.27 | paissad | it's weird |
| 20:57.28 | Ezep | paissad: update your repos |
| 20:57.43 | paissad | Ezep, i'm using the netinst.iso |
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| 20:57.57 | Ezep | :/, yeah, weird |
| 20:58.12 | paissad | i'm at the installation step, first time i install debian :) |
| 20:58.59 | adb | paissad: finish installing , reboot and add bpo later , note bpo come whit 2.6.30 kernel |
| 20:59.13 | Ezep | bpo? |
| 20:59.19 | adb | dpkg: tell paissad -about bpo |
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| 20:59.36 | Ace2017_- | guys, where is chroot? |
| 20:59.50 | Ezep | which chroot |
| 21:00.02 | Ace2017_- | ah its a sudo app |
| 21:00.09 | adb | Ezep: /msg dpkg bpo |
| 21:00.19 | Ezep | Ace2017_-: do in a tty, "which chroot" |
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| 21:00.28 | NickelBack | HoLaaà aScReEéEeem a TuTti :oOoOPpPp by N|ckelBack |
| 21:00.29 | paissad | adb, thanks |
| 21:00.31 | Ezep | adb: ty |
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| 21:00.44 | Ace2017_- | ok it worked, i needed the sudo |
| 21:00.57 | Ezep | Ace2017_-: yeah, you need root privilegies |
| 21:01.23 | Ace2017_- | and i got the missing chroot instead of the permissions error so i ended up wondering where chroot had gotten to |
| 21:01.25 | Ezep | adb: oh, bpo = backports, sorry :) |
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| 21:01.26 | BiKeR_BOyZ`` | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.29 | Ace2017_- | thanks |
| 21:01.31 | NickelBack | AahuAHUauhAUH |
| 21:01.44 | BiKeR_BOyZ`` | AUUAuhaUHAuhuaHa |
| 21:01.45 | NickelBack | BIKER |
| 21:01.45 | BiKeR_BOyZ`` | Nickel |
| 21:01.45 | NickelBack | qui saranno tutti dei gran |
| 21:01.46 | NickelBack | coglioni |
| 21:01.48 | NickelBack | XD |
| 21:01.51 | NickelBack | auhAUHahuUHAUHahAahHUAahuAHUahuAUH |
| 21:01.53 | Ace2017_- | ..... |
| 21:01.53 | BiKeR_BOyZ`` | aUHauhAUHAuhAUHAuhaUHAuhaUHauh |
| 21:01.54 | BiKeR_BOyZ`` | Nickel |
| 21:01.58 | adb | !ops BiKeR_BOyZ`` spam |
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| 21:01.58 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: adb complains about: BiKeR_BOyZ`` spam |
| 21:01.58 | Ace2017_- | spambots? |
| 21:02.00 | NickelBack | qualche italiano? |
| 21:02.12 | paissad | just wanna know, most of you use generic or targeted initrd ? |
| 21:02.15 | NickelBack | adb kazzo fai |
| 21:02.16 | adb | !it |
| 21:02.16 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 21:02.17 | NickelBack | sta kap i kazz |
| 21:02.22 | BiKeR_BOyZ`` | aUHauhAUHAuhAUHAuhaUHAuhaUHauh |
| 21:02.27 | NickelBack | HUAhauuhAHUahuAHUAhuaUHahuaHUAhuhaUUAhuAHUUHA |
| 21:02.29 | NickelBack | HUAhauuhAHUahuAHUAhuaUHahuaHUAhuhaUUAhuAHUUHA |
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| 21:02.55 | Ace2017_- | paissad: well i ran update initrd, because i wanted my modules and blacklists used |
| 21:03.13 | paissad | i don't care about space disk, just want to know if it's really necessary |
| 21:03.18 | paissad | to have the generic |
| 21:03.32 | Ace2017_- | its not about disk space, its about configuration files |
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| 21:04.15 | paissad | don't understand a lot, but i think it's wiser to take the generic |
| 21:04.21 | adb | paissad: generate initrd is ok |
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| 21:05.14 | paxcoder | what's with the GNU/Linux's sound system's inability to be used by multiple applications in the same time? #:-( |
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| 21:05.54 | adb | paxcoder: here it works |
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| 21:06.24 | ranix | paxcoder: alsa's mixer solves that problem |
| 21:06.43 | paxcoder | I don't think i left it on OSS... |
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| 21:09.01 | paxcoder | what's pulse audio? |
| 21:09.37 | ranix | that sounds like a question for... google! |
| 21:09.45 | ranix | or man |
| 21:09.56 | ranix | (man is manly) |
| 21:10.05 | paxcoder | i asked man, no luck there. i figured #debian |
| 21:10.13 | Ezep | Yeah!, he is so cool, sometimes he invite me beers :) |
| 21:10.25 | jiimmy_ | has anyone spent time with nstx? |
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| 21:10.34 | Ezep | paxcoder: pulseaudio have his official page... |
| 21:10.49 | paxcoder | i don't know where i got that... |
| 21:10.52 | Zharf | paxcoder, use oss4 |
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| 21:11.43 | paxcoder | removes pulseaudio |
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| 21:12.06 | paxcoder | Zharf: why? |
| 21:12.37 | Zharf | it's a solution to the alsa problem |
| 21:13.32 | paxcoder | apt-get install mosquito-repellant |
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| 21:15.13 | zmitya | hi everybody |
| 21:15.33 | paxcoder | LOL. Krusty the clown flashback. |
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| 21:15.47 | zmitya | guys, how do I copy a kernel (+ its settings + its initrd) to another etch ? |
| 21:15.58 | zmitya | create a deb would be the best |
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| 21:16.21 | zmitya | so how do I create a deb from an existing system's kernel ? |
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| 21:17.17 | adb | zmitya: why not just install same kernel on second etch box |
| 21:17.22 | tarzeau | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:19.51 | coldtobi | zmitya: get kernel source, copy /boot/.config-<versoin; make-kpkg ? |
| 21:21.28 | zmitya | well, I need to change the motherboard and the disk controller under the system... I changed it and I was not able to boon into the new kernel, however I added the required stuff into the initrd I think |
| 21:22.18 | zmitya | I change back the motherboard and tried to install a fresh install on the new motherboard with an other disk |
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| 21:22.33 | zmitya | the installer works well and the new system boots up |
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| 21:22.52 | zmitya | so I wuold like to get this kernel and copy it to the old server and change the motherboard again |
| 21:22.59 | coldtobi | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:23.13 | zmitya | coldtobi: I don't have a custom kernel |
| 21:23.25 | coldtobi | so apt-get install linux-image ? |
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| 21:23.28 | g00se | zmitya: that's what i thought. Just use the same one |
| 21:23.34 | alex_hopp | anyoen up for helping me with some kernel rebuilding questions |
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| 21:23.40 | alex_hopp | shoot me a message |
| 21:23.48 | zmitya | g00se: well, I did, but it did not worked for some reason :( |
| 21:24.09 | adb | zmitya: try again |
| 21:24.15 | g00se | zmitya: What you have is a stock kernel. You can simply use it elsewhere |
| 21:24.31 | zmitya | the problem is that this is a live system, I don't have time to trying 10 kernels :( |
| 21:24.55 | coldtobi | whats was the problem with the old one? Did not install? Did not boot? |
| 21:25.04 | stableable | hi all -- i've just installed debian stable -- and the thing won't boot -- it gets to printing "Loading, please wait..." and eventually timesout, dropping me to an (initrdfs) prompt, claiming the UUID device can'r be found. If I then reboot, and at the Grub prompt. delete the root=UUID_STRING part, and replace it with "/dev/sda1", I still get the same thing which is bollocks, as "/dev/sda1" *really* is the root devic |
| 21:25.04 | stableable | e. Any thoughts as to what's causing this? |
| 21:25.04 | zmitya | that is why I would like to install it to a new disk on this MB that copy the kernel somehow |
| 21:25.30 | zmitya | coldtobi: the old kernel does not boot with the new SATA controller |
| 21:25.43 | zmitya | I was not able to set it up somehow |
| 21:25.47 | g00se | zmitya: The kernel is just a blob. Use a different blob |
| 21:26.08 | zmitya | g00se: blob ? |
| 21:26.32 | g00se | zmitya: It's monolithic - there's no config to copy. What kernel is it? |
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| 21:27.01 | coldtobi | could it be that hes needing his initrd updated for SATA? |
| 21:27.05 | DetrotiLibertyPe | !monlithic |
| 21:27.12 | DetrotiLibertyPe | !monolithic |
| 21:27.42 | DetrotiLibertyPe | g00se: since dpkg doens't know do you think you could let me know what monolithic |
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| 21:28.11 | zmitya | g00se: 2.6.18-4-amd64 |
| 21:28.35 | zmitya | g00se: I don;t think it is monolithic |
| 21:28.35 | elninja | DetrotiLibertyPe, means it is rolled together as one piece |
| 21:28.43 | g00se | zmitya: Not sure about SATA support there |
| 21:29.21 | zmitya | g00se: there is SATA support and I put it to the initrd and re-generated it, but it did not boot for some reason |
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| 21:29.38 | elninja | DetrotiLibertyPe, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monolithic_kernel |
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| 21:30.22 | coldtobi | Are there some details of "not booting"? Like kernel panics or like? |
| 21:30.25 | zmitya | g00se: the strange thing is that it boots well if I use a fresh install in a different disk |
| 21:30.36 | zmitya | with the same kernel from Etch |
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| 21:31.05 | pozic | What's a normal CPU usage for X when not a lot is happening on the screen? I got a bigger screen, but it is using 10% CPU continously now, which seems a lot. |
| 21:31.07 | coldtobi | zmitya: Maybe kernel-params leftovers? |
| 21:31.12 | g00se | zmitya: 'in a different disk'? |
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| 21:31.56 | zmitya | g00se: yes, I swap back to the original motherboard, get home the new one and the SATA card as well and install a fresh etch in a new disk |
| 21:32.01 | alex_hopp | so the last time i compiled a kernel was on alinux system about 4 years ago, what are the differences on a debian system |
| 21:32.13 | zmitya | coldtobi: well, maybe that is the problem |
| 21:32.15 | alex_hopp | and what do i need to know, because im having proiblems compiling my kernel |
| 21:32.29 | zmitya | coldtobi: unfortunately I had no time because it is a live system |
| 21:32.33 | coldtobi | are u using grub? |
| 21:32.53 | zmitya | coldtobi: no, I'm using lilo |
| 21:33.07 | pozic | Moving a window over the screen makes the CPU spike to 40% which also seems too much. |
| 21:33.12 | coldtobi | alex, think if you really need a custom kernel. |
| 21:33.20 | zmitya | coldtobi: and I run lilo after the initrd creation |
| 21:33.55 | alex_hopp | coldtobi: yes, i would like to build a custom kernel |
| 21:33.56 | coldtobi | Dropped Lilo years ago... But check your lilo.conf |
| 21:34.07 | coldtobi | aley, why? |
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| 21:35.14 | zmitya | coldtobi: what should I check in it ? I just add one more module for initrd and created it, than ran lilo. Should I do something else as well ? |
| 21:35.23 | g00se | zmitya: Why are you installing Etch at all btw? |
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| 21:35.38 | alex_hopp | coldtobi: you mean i need a reason aside from i want to? |
| 21:35.39 | zmitya | g00se: this is the old live system :) |
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| 21:36.06 | zmitya | g00se: we just want to add a new motherboard new disks and new disk controller to it |
| 21:36.24 | zmitya | but the first step is to change the MB and the dist controller |
| 21:36.31 | coldtobi | ASAIR hardcodes LILO some kind of infos when updating. Could be that it does not know about your new harddrive (sda instead of hda) |
| 21:36.38 | Esine | would be easier to buy a new server |
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| 21:37.09 | zmitya | Esine: well, basically it will be a new server :) |
| 21:37.23 | Esine | well yes but.. what you're doing, is it really supported? |
| 21:37.24 | g00se | zmitya: It's getting clearer now. So essentially you're putting an already installed Etch onto different hardware? |
| 21:37.32 | coldtobi | alex, you save you lots of trouble when sticking to stock kernels. So I just want to make to think about your decission. |
| 21:37.36 | Esine | what if something goes wrong, or do you have someone from dell/hp/wherever installing it? |
| 21:37.47 | zmitya | g00se: exactly |
| 21:38.12 | zmitya | Esine: yes, etch is still supportedthis year (AFAIK) |
| 21:38.24 | alex_hopp | coldtobi: i have run linux (redhat) since i was 14, always built my own kernels... have a good handle on the better part of the process... just between the time since the last time i did it and the fact that debian seems to be different i do prety well |
| 21:38.25 | Esine | I meant more hardware wise but yeah.. |
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| 21:38.32 | g00se | zmitya: That's asking for trouble ;-) |
| 21:38.35 | alex_hopp | i already have the configuration file |
| 21:40.14 | coldtobi | thats fine... I was once like you, but I now love the convenience of the prepackaed kernels. |
| 21:40.14 | pozic | alex_hopp: you can make Debian kernels from custom configuration files, so that there is about zero trouble. |
| 21:40.14 | g00se | zmitya: You're essentially taking an install that's been configured for one set of hardware and hoping it's going to work with different hardware |
| 21:40.14 | zmitya | g00se: exactly :) |
| 21:40.15 | pozic | Generic kernels should work. |
| 21:40.32 | pozic | But I don't know how different the hardware is. |
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| 21:40.37 | enouf | stableable: try perhaps rootdelay=20 or so -- is the only thing that comes to mind offhand |
| 21:40.38 | alex_hopp | i already went through and generated the configuration file |
| 21:40.44 | zmitya | g00se: well, there should be no big dramas except this stupid SATA controller |
| 21:41.23 | alex_hopp | and in case i change something major in the future. also, learning is good, and this is learning |
| 21:41.28 | zmitya | g00se: I did it so many times before, maybe coldtobi is right, I just missed a kernel parameter |
| 21:41.32 | g00se | zmitya: I would be more inclined to extract the data from the disk, mirror the packages, etc |
| 21:41.33 | coldtobi | alex: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/90 |
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| 21:41.46 | zmitya | that is wy I'm looking for a solution just "copy" a kernel |
| 21:42.10 | enouf | what? |
| 21:42.20 | zmitya | g00se: well, thet would be the easiest but unfortunately there are a n*100 Gbytes there |
| 21:42.27 | ranix | ls / |
| 21:42.29 | ranix | hey look at that |
| 21:42.31 | ranix | vmlinuz |
| 21:42.35 | g00se | zmitya: It's not a kernel issue (for the nth time) |
| 21:42.36 | zmitya | g00se: I can't shut down a system that much time |
| 21:42.38 | ranix | cp vmlinuz somewhere else |
| 21:42.44 | ranix | what's the drama |
| 21:42.48 | enouf | you shouldn't have data and your / FS all lumped together like that |
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| 21:43.13 | g00se | zmitya: n*100 G of what? |
| 21:43.14 | enouf | ranix: hehe |
| 21:43.34 | enouf | g00se: i bet zettabytes of n*100G |
| 21:43.39 | zmitya | g00se: porno :) |
| 21:43.51 | zmitya | g00se: half of it is DB |
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| 21:43.58 | coldtobi | zmitya: cant you play with the new computer and let the old one online? dd the old drive to the new drive ? |
| 21:44.00 | zmitya | the rest of them are pics I thikn |
| 21:44.02 | zmitya | the rest of them are pics I think |
| 21:44.11 | g00se | zmitya: So move it elsewhere |
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| 21:44.54 | zmitya | coldtobi: yes, that is a solution I mean install a disk to a single drive than boot from it... |
| 21:45.20 | zmitya | coldtobi: the only issue here is that I will loose the redundancy |
| 21:45.54 | g00se | zmitya: Essentially you've comingled data and binaries so want, as a solution, to install an old version of Debian on changed hardware |
| 21:45.55 | coldtobi | I thought you've got a spare drive (like brand-new) |
| 21:46.31 | alex_hopp | im getting some errors i have made it for the most part, but dont know if these are fatal errors or not |
| 21:46.33 | coldtobi | anyway, such a big change like hw-change can lead to unexpected down-times.... |
| 21:46.50 | zmitya | coldtobi: I have one, but I wuold need 2, because running from one drive is now allowed in that company |
| 21:46.51 | enouf | you should also try to get a (the latest) bpo~etch kernel going |
| 21:47.13 | alex_hopp | dpkg-buildpackage: warning: Failed to sign .changes file |
| 21:47.17 | enouf | so atleast your kernel will know most of the newer hardware |
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| 21:47.28 | enouf | alex_hopp: dch |
| 21:47.46 | alex_hopp | dch? |
| 21:48.06 | enouf | yeah, or pass the -uc and -u<something> options |
| 21:48.47 | enouf | !package recompile |
| 21:48.47 | dpkg | 1) Add a <deb-src> line for your current release to your sources.list 2) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential devscripts fakeroot; aptitude build-dep packagename 3) as any user, apt-get source packagename 4) cd packagename-version/; ask me about <debian/rules>; 5) dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us 6) as root, dpkg -i ../packagename-version.deb. Ask me about <debian/rules> <apt-get source> |
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| 21:49.21 | alex_hopp | what is dch |
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| 21:49.36 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:49.40 | enouf | there - heh |
| 21:49.48 | enouf | !dch |
| 21:50.01 | enouf | for altering the debian/changes file or something |
| 21:50.04 | coldtobi | even for "playing" on a non-productive system? |
| 21:50.12 | alex_hopp | yeah i just did thjat and i idnt get any errors on make |
| 21:50.45 | enouf | alex_hopp: twas a Warning, not an error ;-) |
| 21:51.05 | alex_hopp | so it makes the kernel files and puts them in the /usr/src directory instead of the top source file? |
| 21:51.14 | alex_hopp | s/file/directory |
| 21:51.30 | enouf | Make can be made to not be so chatty - however, ... that's likley not going to be a good thing heh |
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| 21:51.53 | alex_hopp | yeah i like to watch whats going on |
| 21:51.54 | enouf | just run it in the bg :-o |
| 21:51.59 | alex_hopp | lol |
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| 21:52.36 | alex_hopp | so i do the gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: secret key not available |
| 21:53.05 | enouf | when building kernels, and after failing at several compiles, it can get very boring .. even irritating to have to watch it .. fail, over and over .. a little further on each time .. ugh |
| 21:53.13 | coldtobi | you dont need to sign your own packages (pass -us -uc ) |
| 21:53.20 | alex_hopp | wrong clipboard ;) |
| 21:53.27 | alex_hopp | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:53.30 | alex_hopp | much better |
| 21:53.30 | alex_hopp | lol |
| 21:53.35 | enouf | whoa |
| 21:53.42 | alex_hopp | ? |
| 21:53.43 | enouf | wait a cotten picken ... |
| 21:53.47 | alex_hopp | uh oh |
| 21:54.07 | enouf | make-kpkg doesn't need you to call dpkg-buildpackage |
| 21:54.13 | pozic | alex_hopp: you can also let it use more cores. |
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| 21:54.26 | enouf | alex_hopp: /msg dpkg kp mantra |
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| 21:54.59 | alex_hopp | ok...... |
| 21:55.01 | alex_hopp | huh? |
| 21:55.02 | alex_hopp | lol |
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| 21:57.07 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 21:57.11 | enouf | fakeroot debian/rules binary (if you like) for regular packages |
| 21:57.17 | enouf | TrueDD: yo yo .. nite |
| 21:57.54 | TrueDD | hi e:) |
| 21:58.00 | TrueDD | hi enouf |
| 21:58.07 | TrueDD | and good night |
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| 21:58.42 | enouf | ;-) |
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| 21:59.56 | Akufen | sorry for the OT question, but has anyone ever had to use lynx to configure a d-link? |
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| 22:00.26 | enouf | Akufen: i've used links2 to configure my router .. does that count? |
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| 22:01.03 | Akufen | enouf well the problem is that the d-link configuration uses all images it seems |
| 22:01.37 | Akufen | and I only see image names, and I can't even select them using the arrows, so I'm guessing javascript is involved instead of general links |
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| 22:01.44 | Akufen | was hoping for a workaround |
| 22:01.49 | mjt | anyone have bluetooth working? |
| 22:02.34 | Akufen | enouf yours is a d-link too? |
| 22:03.03 | stableable | enouf: Thanks, but that only quickens the problem --- each time it is the same, eventually it will timeout. |
| 22:03.07 | enouf | Akufen: links2 can/does utilize some javascript and yes, it's much more sparse (my router config) |
| 22:03.24 | mjt | Akufen: there are many models/vendors which looks pretty much the same over http (except company logo pictures) :) |
| 22:03.50 | enouf | stableable: you don't have any 'quiet' kernel options do you? go over your entire menu.lst file's settings |
| 22:04.07 | g00se | Akufen: Won't it do telnet? |
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| 22:04.22 | enouf | stableable: note; the # in the Automagic area (i.e.; # groot) are NOT to be removed |
| 22:04.28 | Akufen | goose apparantly not |
| 22:04.38 | stableable | enouf: i do, yes. should i remove them? I don't even know if this is a generic kernel thing or a GRUB thing. |
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| 22:04.48 | g00se | Akufen: What model? |
| 22:04.52 | Akufen | I'm ssh'd to a pc behind the router (it's at the office) |
| 22:04.52 | enouf | stableable: note that one and the # kopt= one |
| 22:05.00 | Akufen | goose, I'm not even sure |
| 22:05.09 | stableable | enouf: What's that? |
| 22:05.12 | enouf | stableable: yes, remove the 'quiet' to see messages |
| 22:05.36 | enouf | stableable: and look through dmesg .. if you can,. or paste a screenshot from a digital camera |
| 22:06.00 | enouf | Akufen: no d-link - some off-brand |
| 22:06.12 | Akufen | but I was thinking that if I could get the url that contains the form with the checkbox for remote access, I could manage it with lynx |
| 22:06.29 | enouf | lynx -dump? heh |
| 22:06.42 | Akufen | enouf ah, that is new to me |
| 22:06.49 | enouf | try w3m, and links2 - both operate in console - links2 -g for GUI |
| 22:07.00 | enouf | Akufen: /msg dpkg links2 |
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| 22:07.06 | Akufen | kk will try that |
| 22:07.28 | g00se | Akufen: Did you TRY to telnet? |
| 22:07.33 | Akufen | goose yep |
| 22:07.39 | stableable | enouf: Well now that I've removed "quiet", it hangs at: "Begin Waiting for root file system ..." -- eventually it will drop me to that (initramfs) prompt -- where I can't type anything -- not even the LEDs on my keyboard for capslock are working then -- this is a USB keyboard, should that matter. |
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| 22:07.53 | Akufen | "telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused" |
| 22:08.20 | coldtobi | stableable: it won't find your root... is the root=... kernel param set correctly? |
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| 22:09.17 | stableable | coldtobi: It's set to a UUID -- if I change that UUID to "/dev/sda1" which is what it should be, it still hangs -- yet a live CD will boot just fine from its kernel using "/dev/sda1", for instance. |
| 22:09.17 | Akufen | goose I also tried nmap and it doesn't show the port |
| 22:09.29 | enouf | stableable: that might be changeable through BIOS, try legacy USB mode or enable it or something -- but that message is from the rootdelay= option likely (from the initrd) /msg dpkg can't mount root |
| 22:10.10 | g00se | Akufen: Of course you'd have to try that when you're in internally. It wouldn't accept telnet from outside the LAN normally |
| 22:10.27 | Akufen | goose yup that's what I'm trying |
| 22:10.36 | enouf | stableable: you using LVM? |
| 22:10.47 | stableable | enouf: But this is a vanilla kernel, not a stock one --- so I fail to see how dpkg's message applies here --- and all the settings make sense in GRUB. |
| 22:10.53 | stableable | enouf: no LVM. |
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| 22:11.00 | enouf | stableable: well .. then hehe, all bets are off |
| 22:11.04 | stableable | s/stock/custom/ |
| 22:11.10 | enouf | go build your kernel properly ;-) |
| 22:11.23 | g00se | Akufen: Nothing interesting from nmap then? |
| 22:11.25 | enouf | vanilla == kernel.org to me |
| 22:11.29 | themill | !waiting root |
| 22:11.29 | dpkg | If you've recently upgraded your kernel and your system hangs at "waiting for the root filesystem", this may be from the libata transition. /dev/hd? disks might now be known as /dev/sd?. At the GRUB menu, press e to edit the entry, change the ROOT= part, then press b to boot. You need to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst and perhaps also your /etc/fstab. Also ask me about <can't mount root> <uuid> |
| 22:11.36 | stableable | I haven't built my kernel yet -- I would if I could boot from the fucking stock one Debian gave me. |
| 22:11.44 | enouf | themill: righto .. good one |
| 22:11.53 | themill | one of the many causes... |
| 22:12.18 | enouf | indeed - but it should be able to use UUID as easily .. or LABEL= |
| 22:12.25 | Akufen | goose print and httpd |
| 22:12.32 | stableable | themill: Thanks, but as previously mentioned, I am already referencing /dev/sda1 |
| 22:12.36 | enouf | stableable: is that the Installer? |
| 22:12.45 | stableable | enouf: After the installer. :) |
| 22:12.51 | enouf | ... |
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| 22:13.12 | stableable | Installer ran fine, I rebooted, and now this, hanging... |
| 22:13.24 | themill | stableable: do you have more than one hard disk in that machine? |
| 22:13.31 | g00se | Akufen: What kind of box are you ssh'd into? |
| 22:13.37 | stableable | themill: Nope. Just the one. |
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| 22:14.00 | Akufen | goose: debian |
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| 22:14.45 | ksnp | i am trying to do ./confgure, make and make install using a single line |
| 22:14.49 | Akufen | I think this is the model: 'DI-524' |
| 22:14.51 | g00se | Akufen: No browser then or is it just that you have no X at your end or what? |
| 22:14.52 | ksnp | i see fewe places that one can separate them using && |
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| 22:15.02 | ksnp | but shouldn't just separating using ; do the same thing ? |
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| 22:15.45 | Akufen | goose: no X on debian no |
| 22:16.07 | Akufen | I could install it I suppose.. |
| 22:16.08 | coldtobi | stableable: did you try /dev/hda1 ? Saw some time ago where a BIOS had a "legacy-function" making SATAs IDes |
| 22:16.12 | Akufen | but seems like a waste |
| 22:16.24 | Akufen | besides |
| 22:16.31 | Akufen | even if I install it, I can't get into it |
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| 22:16.56 | stableable | colby: Just tried it -- same as specifying /dev/sda1 -- the thing eventually timesout to the (initramfs) prompt; |
| 22:17.03 | Akufen | port forwarding is exactly the reason why I need to get into the d-link |
| 22:17.52 | enouf | Akufen: you don't need X o run links2 in GUI from within Console |
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| 22:17.58 | enouf | s/o/to/ |
| 22:18.00 | coldtobi | are there other messages than "waiting for root"? |
| 22:18.17 | stableable | coldtobi: No, alas. |
| 22:18.18 | Akufen | enouf I tried, but after the login all I get is a white page |
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| 22:18.38 | g00se | Akufen: No other box you can remote into? |
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| 22:19.08 | Akufen | goose nope |
| 22:19.21 | enouf | stableable: where did the 'quiet' option come from, i don't recall the Installer doing that .. but then, it's been awhile since using recent ones - is there a (bootable) CD in the optical drive? remove it |
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| 22:19.34 | stableable | coldtobi: Hmm, that's not true: "i8042.c: No controller found." is what I see before the "Loading, please waig. |
| 22:19.47 | stableable | s/waig/wait hang/ |
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| 22:20.18 | stableable | enouf: Already removed, and nothing I personally have added to add this "quiet" option in. |
| 22:20.19 | enouf | Akufen: there are many options - hit ESC, then choose whatever you want to edit -- iunder View and Settings are options |
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| 22:21.06 | Akufen | enouf, yup thanks having a look atm |
| 22:21.11 | coldtobi | stable:whats grubs kernel params? |
| 22:21.22 | enouf | stableable: Installation went off without any major issues? Network was up? used apt-get install? |
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| 22:21.54 | stableable | enouf: Yes, and yes. |
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| 22:23.06 | enouf | stableable: btw, is there any Virtual Machine stuff going on? or any RAID, or Crypt you've setup? |
| 22:23.13 | ircDon | I am seeing a lot of hard drive activity from my case led. iotop reports it is coming from [kjournald] and [pdflush]. There is activity every 3 seconds or so. Is this normal? |
| 22:23.38 | enouf | stableable: you have a digital camera? pst to pastepic.com or something |
| 22:23.49 | enouf | s/pst/paste/ |
| 22:24.17 | enouf | ircDon: fixed in recent kernels, due to ... erm .. |
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| 22:24.44 | enouf | ircDon: firstly, is your /etc/cron.daily running now? |
| 22:24.51 | coldtobi | your bootloaders (GRUB) kernel parameters line |
| 22:24.51 | ircDon | enouf: Ah OK - thanks. I am on 2.6.26-2-amd64 |
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| 22:25.16 | \amethyst | ircDon: those are kernel threads responsible for flushing dirty pages and journal transactions to disk |
| 22:25.18 | ircDon | enouf: no cron activity at the moment. |
| 22:25.46 | enouf | ircDon: ok - as \amethyst is noting, i thought i recall it being JBD related |
| 22:26.02 | \amethyst | ircDon: does remounting with relatime or even noatime help? |
| 22:26.05 | ircDon | I'd like to get up to 2.6.30 - is that known to resolve the issue? |
| 22:26.12 | enouf | right - try those mount options ircDon |
| 22:26.21 | enouf | ircDon: not yet .. |
| 22:26.22 | ircDon | THanks guys - I didn't try that. |
| 22:26.30 | enouf | ircDon: hold one second |
| 22:26.40 | \amethyst | ircDon: mount / -o remount,relatime |
| 22:26.43 | enouf | (i mean don't go anywhere) :-) |
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| 22:27.50 | ircDon | no luck - same behavior with mount / -o remount,relatime |
| 22:28.01 | \amethyst | oh |
| 22:28.04 | \amethyst | logs |
| 22:28.17 | ircDon | checking |
| 22:28.23 | ajavid | hola |
| 22:28.23 | enouf | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=481653 (partially related) but see the URLS within |
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| 22:28.28 | enouf | ircDon: ^^^ |
| 22:28.31 | ajavid | I using opera! |
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| 22:28.47 | enouf | ajavid: yah00? |
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| 22:29.03 | ircDon | Nothing is /var/log/messages for an hour and a half |
| 22:29.08 | ajavid | its not bad |
| 22:29.22 | \amethyst | ircDon: any files changing quickly? |
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| 22:29.37 | \amethyst | ircDon: if anything is changing, kjournald will write every five seconds |
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| 22:30.15 | ircDon | iotop -o is handy - db2fmcd shows up - I will kill that. |
| 22:30.39 | \amethyst | ircDon: err |
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| 22:30.54 | \amethyst | ircDon: that's a fault monitor for the IBM DB2 database system |
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| 22:31.22 | stableable | enouf: http://yfrog.com/6wp1000040j -- best I can do. |
| 22:32.13 | valdyn | ircDon: kjournald accesses your disk every 5 seconds |
| 22:32.21 | \amethyst | ircDon: I wouldn't go killing it unless you're sure it's unimportant, but if you're running DB 2 1. you shouldn't do that 2. you should expect your disk to be active |
| 22:32.24 | ircDon | killed db2 fault montior - no change in activity |
| 22:32.36 | stableable | enouf: I get the same error message: "/dev/sda1". or "/dev/hda1", or the UUID Grub assigned. It matters not. |
| 22:32.42 | ircDon | Thanks - its OK - it is a personal DB2 copy on a desktop. |
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| 22:33.12 | \amethyst | ircDon: anything else in iotop -o ? |
| 22:33.15 | enouf | ircDon: also http://lwn.net/Articles/326471/ |
| 22:33.34 | g00se | Akufen: Somebody mentions having got telnet to a DI-524 btw |
| 22:33.39 | enouf | stableable: did you show us your kernel line? as coldtobi asked for? |
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| 22:33.51 | ircDon | Thanks for the link. Others are console-kit-daemon |
| 22:34.07 | Akufen | goose, hm yea.. it's possible the g |
| 22:34.14 | Akufen | *guy who installed it disabled it |
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| 22:34.48 | g00se | Akufen: Maybe. What command did you use? |
| 22:35.09 | ircDon | Also gconfd-2 |
| 22:35.44 | \amethyst | ircDon: are they doing reads or writes? |
| 22:35.47 | ircDon | Then xchat-gnome which I am actually running now so it has some business being there - I suspect it is logging or something. |
| 22:35.51 | ircDon | writes |
| 22:35.54 | Akufen | goose telnet ip 23 ? |
| 22:36.12 | \amethyst | ircDon: gconfd is the GNOME registry |
| 22:36.40 | enouf | ircDon: see if ps aux or pstree -lunap shows tons of {console-kit-dae} entries - i have to kill all 65 or so every reboot here |
| 22:36.48 | ircDon | Yes, it is sort of a mystery what that might need to be writing out. It looks like it was a one-time deal |
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| 22:36.53 | \amethyst | ircDon: anything you do something that a program uses gconf to remember, you'll get writes |
| 22:36.56 | enouf | not that it's causing your HDD access/writes issues |
| 22:36.59 | \amethyst | s/anything/any time/ |
| 22:36.59 | ircDon | activity is only on [kjournald] |
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| 22:37.35 | enouf | ircDon: could've been a cron.weekly or even /etc/cron.d/mdadm ... |
| 22:38.36 | ircDon | Yes, perhaps I misunderstand iotop - wouldn't the thread initiating the write be listed or do they all get rolled up into kjournald? |
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| 22:40.20 | anewbie | hey there guys |
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| 22:40.29 | anewbie | how can i regonize my wifi NIC model |
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| 22:40.56 | stableable | enouf: No -- it's a PITA to screenshot though |
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| 22:41.35 | ircDon | anewbie: lspci -v |
| 22:41.41 | sharp15 | where does /etc/X11/Xsession find the commands it uses to launch an xsession? i'm using debian lenny and trying to setup a vnc server it keeps using xfce and i don't see the setting. vnc is using the default .vnc/xstartup file. |
| 22:41.50 | Akufen | goose are you talking to someone with the same model? or atleast the same web management ? |
| 22:42.00 | sharp15 | the server is from tightvnc |
| 22:42.26 | anewbie | ircDon, :) a lot of 10x :D |
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| 22:42.37 | Akufen | I might be able to fill the form if I knew the url of this page: http://www.fixya.com/support/p277725-d_link_airplus_di_524_wireless_router/manual-14181/page-30 |
| 22:42.47 | ircDon | Does smartd trigger activity on disk? |
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| 22:46.05 | ircDon | iotop has settled down - no activity reported - disk led is still lighting every few seconds |
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| 22:51.18 | ircDon | Well anyway - thanks for the help. I am stumped on this one. I'll have to learn about more about how disk is accessed since iotop does not appear to be the whole story. Or I plugged the led into the wrong thing on the motherboard :) - but I don't think that is the issue. |
| 22:51.22 | enouf | stableable: you posted a 4MB screenshot? wtf?! |
| 22:52.48 | alex_hopp | is there a package manager method of compiling and installing modules or is it the traditional make modules; modules_install |
| 22:53.13 | pickcoder | ircDon: look at vmstat and iostat for transactions per second and I/O bandwidth |
| 22:53.14 | enouf | sharp15: /etc/X11/xinitrc/xserverrc * or something is where it starts basically |
| 22:53.49 | coldtobi | alex: see package "modules-assistant" |
| 22:53.50 | enouf | er /xinit/ |
| 22:54.16 | coldtobi | !m-a |
| 22:54.16 | dpkg | hmm... module-assistant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and install them. "aptitude install module-assistant && m-a prepare". See usage examples at http://wiki.debian.org/ModuleAssistant |
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| 22:54.45 | Akufen | goo |
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| 22:54.59 | Akufen | err .. |
| 22:55.08 | ircDon | alex: it depends - modules packages have dependencies on kernel and arch and include the binary - making it available for autoloading - source packages depend on the kernel source and require m-a to install. |
| 22:56.39 | coldtobi | probably you want make-kpkg modules_image |
| 22:56.44 | pickcoder | they also are gcc version specific to the kernel running |
| 22:57.00 | pickcoder | s/kernel running/running kernel |
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| 22:58.06 | pickcoder | module-assistant will make sure you don't compile module-A under GCC 4.5 while the kernel was compiled under 4.3 or something goofy |
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| 22:58.40 | pickcoder | (as well as pull in source dependencies and compile those too) |
| 22:58.49 | stableable | enouf: Hi-def camea? |
| 22:58.52 | stableable | :) |
| 23:00.25 | coldtobi | stable: next time, try without flash |
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| 23:00.44 | coldtobi | but the message was: /dev/sda1 does not exists. Did you tell us that before? |
| 23:02.16 | coldtobi | anyway. it seems that the device is not found. So whats the GRUB kernel line? |
| 23:03.07 | enouf | stableable: did you partition the disk at all? is it possible you should try using /dev/sda? i say that because i have a disk here with FStype (reiserfs) but it's not my boot drive |
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| 23:03.48 | enouf | erm .. ++ /and no partition table/ ++ |
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| 23:04.42 | enouf | stableable: is that a flashdrive, CF-Card ? ... or an internal PATA/SATA? |
| 23:05.13 | stableable | enouf: I partitioned it once, but kept the partitions -- i.e., assigned them mount points and asked the installer not to format the partitions. No flashdrive, this is an internal SATA disk. |
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| 23:07.08 | enouf | stableable: what FStypes? |
| 23:08.16 | enouf | stableable: you installed using Lenny? 5.0.2? |
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| 23:09.06 | enouf | IIRC, grub1 has a bug that it won;t boot a disk that doesn't have atleast one partition ... hrm |
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| 23:09.49 | stableable | enouf: Yes, and it's EXT3. More than one partition. |
| 23:10.34 | coldtobi | stableable is there an initrd in the kernel line? |
| 23:10.57 | enouf | well. it'd be an initrd line |
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| 23:12.07 | enouf | stableable: show us your two lines, like this; a) kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.29-2-686 root=/dev/hdc1 ro vga=791 acpi=force lapic |
| 23:12.13 | enouf | b) initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.29-2-686 |
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| 23:12.27 | alex_hopp | here goes nothing.... |
| 23:12.30 | enouf | and your root (hd0,0) |
| 23:12.32 | alex_hopp | cringes for reboot |
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| 23:15.55 | kripz | Why is my JFS raid5 always entering read only mode? Im getting errors in dmesg but i dont know what is causing it. Ive run samsung diagnostic tools on all the harddrives and smarmontools, they all pass. Tested ram with memtest, passed. Heres log: http://pastebin.com/m2f62fbf0 |
| 23:16.03 | stableable | enouf: Ok, tomorrow. Thanks for your help! |
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| 23:17.18 | enouf | kripz: how long does it go without remounting as ro? |
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| 23:17.40 | kripz | enouf, its random. I might be able to copy 50gb of data to it, or maybe a touch will lock it |
| 23:18.10 | kripz | Another log from a few days ago: http://pastebin.com/m3acd7f17 |
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| 23:20.34 | anewbie | hi there again i have rtl8180 pci wifi adapter and i wan to put it in master mode |
| 23:20.44 | anewbie | can i do that with rtl8130+sa2400 driver |
| 23:20.55 | anewbie | or that driveri is not for my NIC ? |
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| 23:22.50 | enouf | kripz: try replacing HDD cables? make sure nothing is getting too hot? I wonder how many free inodes you have, you seem to have plenty of space |
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| 23:24.05 | kripz | enouf, I have only used 50% of my 2.7tb array. Ill try replace the cables but i doubt its the issue. It all started when i added another drive to the LVM and grew the JFS partition. |
| 23:24.29 | kripz | I have to go to work, if you have any thougs can you please post here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7661397#post7661397 im desperate for an answer. |
| 23:24.36 | sharp15 | how do i store the result of 'iptables -P INPUT DROP' so it is automatically put into place? unless ipv6 is disabled by default on lenny. |
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| 23:25.39 | enouf | kripz: i see - ok .. but i can really only guess |
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| 23:26.29 | Mark21 | hello, how can I find the MAC address or remove the cache for the MAC addresses? I moved the harddisc to another system and now it isn't booting the network anymore |
| 23:26.34 | enouf | kripz: your LVM resize/grow commands (pvcreate/extend) etc, perhaps your extents are off -- i'm thinking an LVM misconfiguration issue |
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| 23:27.19 | enouf | kripz: and .. did you add using mdadm --add .. or similar to add to array? |
| 23:28.01 | enouf | Mark21: /msg dpkg 70 |
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| 23:28.24 | enouf | ls /sys/class/net will show you ifaces, as would ifconfig |
| 23:28.48 | enouf | Mark21: then update-initramfs once setup correctly and working |
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| 23:36.09 | Mark21 | enouf: the new network card doesn't show up at ifconfig |
| 23:36.15 | Mark21 | enouf: thank you, I will try that |
| 23:36.43 | k-man | how can i tell which dns server is being used when i do a lookup (such as ping x.y.z) from the command line? |
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| 23:37.34 | adb | cat /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 23:39.59 | blendmaster1024 | the driver from my sound card is missing from the binary alsa but not from the source |
| 23:40.14 | blendmaster1024 | and when i compile the source it doesn't compile the driver |
| 23:40.25 | blendmaster1024 | it skips it for some reason |
| 23:40.34 | blendmaster1024 | it's "cs46xx" |
| 23:40.37 | blendmaster1024 | WHY?????? |
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| 23:41.39 | k-man | adb: so, i have 3 nameservers in resolv.conf - is there some way to tell which server it used? |
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| 23:42.30 | enouf | the first one k-man , unless it failed, then it would fallover |
| 23:42.35 | blendmaster1024 | no one knows? |
| 23:42.37 | k-man | i added a host to dnsmasq - when i look up that host using dig, it finds it fine, but when i do a ping host, it is unable to resolve it |
| 23:42.46 | enouf | kripz: could use dig, hostname, whois to prod and see what you get |
| 23:43.21 | adb | lspci -nn| grep Au , says ? |
| 23:43.29 | k-man | enouf: was that directed at me? |
| 23:43.33 | enouf | blendmaster1024: ~$ modprobe -l | grep cs46xx doesn't return anything here |
| 23:43.49 | enouf | k-man: yes, sorry kripz |
| 23:43.53 | blendmaster1024 | what does modprobe -l do? |
| 23:43.57 | blendmaster1024 | shows all available modules? |
| 23:44.04 | blendmaster1024 | if so, i already knew that |
| 23:44.05 | enouf | man modprobe - yeah |
| 23:44.11 | blendmaster1024 | that's what i just said |
| 23:44.17 | enouf | so, you have alsa-source? |
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| 23:44.38 | sharp15 | does apt-cache or another program have the ability to tell me what depends on a specific package? |
| 23:44.47 | blendmaster1024 | hmm i figured it out |
| 23:45.02 | blendmaster1024 | (from #alsa): |
| 23:45.04 | blendmaster1024 | <dtchen> * Removed because of DFSG violations: |
| 23:45.04 | blendmaster1024 | <dtchen> - alsa-kernel/pci/cs46xx/cs46xx_image.h |
| 23:45.04 | blendmaster1024 | <dtchen> - alsa-kernel/pci/cs46xx/imgs |
| 23:45.04 | blendmaster1024 | <dtchen> - alsa-kernel/pci/korg1212/korg1212-firmware.h |
| 23:45.04 | blendmaster1024 | <dtchen> - alsa-kernel/pci/maestro3.c |
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| 23:45.07 | enouf | omg |
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| 23:45.18 | blendmaster1024 | oops |
| 23:45.18 | adb | k-man: ifdown/ifup your ethx will tell nameserver |
| 23:45.20 | blendmaster1024 | lol |
| 23:45.22 | enouf | sharp15: yes, apt-rdepends, and apt-cache depends |
| 23:45.34 | enouf | sharp15: and apt-cache rdepends |
| 23:46.33 | enouf | sharp15: aptitude why packagename1 packagename2 also if you like |
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| 23:47.17 | sharp15 | enouf: the aptitude one is better. thank you. |
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| 23:47.53 | sharp15 | what is the standard way of configuring what launches in each runlevel? |
| 23:48.17 | sharp15 | i've been using sysv-rc-conf. |
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| 23:48.34 | enouf | sharp15: well, i use rcconf - but there's sysv-rc-conf and others, even update-rc.d |
| 23:48.54 | k-man | hmmm... seems it might be a problem with ndots in resolv.conf as i'm attempting to lookup a local hostname like "mylocalhost" |
| 23:49.07 | enouf | sharp15: you shouldn't really have to play with S,0,1 .. you could toy with 2-5 though ;-) |
| 23:49.33 | enouf | ahem . er S,1,6 i meant |
| 23:50.10 | sharp15 | enouf: the service labeled 'networking' is there a default group of runlevels? i cleared it by accident using sysv-rc-conf. |
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| 23:50.52 | enouf | adb: ~$ dig google.com | grep -i server (any good?) |
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| 23:51.36 | enouf | sharp15: reinstall the pkgs ... and let the scripts do their thing |
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| 23:51.41 | adb | maybe , i don't use it .. |
| 23:51.49 | sharp15 | enouf: i'm not sure what package that would be. |
| 23:52.14 | enouf | sharp15: i don;t recall a service called "networking" .,, ever |
| 23:52.46 | sharp15 | hrm. maybe this box needs rebuilt then. |
| 23:52.57 | enouf | see if you can find where sysv-rc-conf stores it's settings |
| 23:53.22 | enouf | it's in /var/ IIRC ... see /usr/share/doc/<pkgname> and man pages |
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| 23:54.28 | \amethyst | sharp15: rc0.d/S35networking, rc6.d/S35networking, and rcS.d/S40networking |
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| 23:55.18 | \amethyst | sharp15: so "start" (really it stops, but it's S for ordering reasons) at 35 in 0 and 6, and start at 40 in S |
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