| 00:00.22 | \amethyst | I don't know where the "rc[06].d/S??foo really means stop" thing is documented, other than policy 9.3.1 |
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| 00:00.47 | sharp15 | \amethyst: so that would be 'update-rc.d networking start 35 0 6 . stop 40 S' or is there something i should be editing. sysv-rc-conf only has the runlevels. |
| 00:01.22 | \amethyst | sharp15: hm update-rc.d networking start 35 0 6 . start 40 S . |
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| 00:02.25 | sharp15 | oh. missed the last '.'. |
| 00:02.30 | \amethyst | sharp15: it's 'start' in both, but that really means 'stop later' in 0 and 6 |
| 00:02.31 | sharp15 | \amethyst: thank you. :) |
| 00:02.49 | olivr | hey i have a network wifi card that works no worry known as wlan0 iwlist wlan0 scan shows no results are there common problems with that ? |
| 00:03.11 | olivr | im on another pc that finds it ect ... |
| 00:03.30 | sharp15 | \amethyst: so the update-rc.d manual page is wrong? the example given is 'update-rc.d foobar start 30 2 3 4 5 . stop 70 0 1 6 .' |
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| 00:03.43 | \amethyst | sharp15: that's usually right |
| 00:04.08 | sharp15 | but in this case its wrong because of the S runlevel? |
| 00:04.09 | \amethyst | sharp15: but networking needs to stop later in 0 and 6, so it's an S (start) rule instead of K (stop) |
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| 00:04.33 | \amethyst | sharp15: not the S runlevel, but because networking has to stop fairly late |
| 00:05.05 | \amethyst | sharp15: in runlevels 0 and 6 first all the K scripts are run with the "stop" argument, then all the S scripts with the "stop" argument |
| 00:05.36 | sharp15 | \amethyst: ok. i'm guessing i should stop messing with this now that it's back in order. thank you for your help. |
| 00:05.42 | \amethyst | sharp15: if you do update-rc.d networking start 40 S . stop 35 0 6 . networking would go down too early, and other init scripts might fail |
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| 00:06.14 | \amethyst | sharp15: and stop 40 S . would be wrong because that would stop networking on system boot, the opposite of what you want :) |
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| 00:08.15 | sharp15 | goes to find the manual pages explaining init |
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| 00:09.49 | Muffin | Hey...I think I may be missing something. I appear to have installed both linux-image-2.6.26-1-powerpc and linux-image-2.6.26-2-powerpc, but 1 is the one that loads when the system boots. Do I need to tweak a thing to get it to default to -2? |
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| 00:15.32 | adb | Muffin: try #debianppc on irc.oftc.net |
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| 00:19.18 | ksnp | my debian guest keeps loosing dhcp/network connectivity anyone know how to fix it ? |
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| 00:22.36 | Muffin | adb: irc.oftc.net! Who wolud have expected that? Thanks. |
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| 00:24.04 | mischief | does synaptic use apt-get or aptitude as it's backend? |
| 00:25.17 | \amethyst | mischief: apt-get |
| 00:25.28 | \amethyst | mischief: aptitude is the only thing that uses the aptitude resolver |
| 00:25.44 | mischief | hmm, k |
| 00:26.36 | \amethyst | mischief: (technically, I think libapt-pkg, not apt-get) |
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| 00:47.47 | z8000 | Hello. How might I determine which pkg a particular file originated with? |
| 00:48.33 | \amethyst | z8000: dpkg -S (slow), dlocate -S (faster but requires building a database), or apt-file search (searches packages in the archive, not packages on your system) |
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| 00:48.46 | z8000 | wow! thanks! |
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| 01:04.46 | Akufen | enouf, was able to tunnel my way in through ssh :) |
| 01:04.48 | jrdave | hey guys... aquick question for u... I have an old PC with 512MB RAM... debian (free -m) is reporting 504MB only! Any explanations? (the video is NOT shared) |
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| 01:09.32 | enouf | Akufen: hrm .. interesting .. no GUI though eh? :-p |
| 01:10.31 | enouf | z8000: if you use dlocate, familiarize yourself with "update-dlocatedb" and also see what dpkg -L <pkgname> tells you (just a FWIW) |
| 01:11.02 | enouf | jrdave: Mem: 503 318 185 0 26 38 |
| 01:11.30 | adb | jrdave: /msg dpkg -about MB |
| 01:11.32 | z8000 | enouf: thanks! |
| 01:12.10 | Akufen | enouf, I can now access the web interface from here so yes, gui :p |
| 01:12.19 | enouf | jrdave: you really should read something like ~$ cat /proc/meminfo | grep MemTotal |
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| 01:12.40 | enouf | and/or see dmesg, or /proc/iomem |
| 01:13.00 | enouf | and do some hex conversion :-p |
| 01:13.13 | enouf | 00100000-1fffdbff : System RAM |
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| 01:13.39 | enouf | Akufen: heh |
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| 01:15.53 | Akufen | enouf: thanks for the suggestions though, but it would've never worked, the interface are all image maps/js/cgi .. |
| 01:16.05 | enouf | z8000: you will find _some_ files are *not* contained within any pkg, but are added (if needed) usually through the pkgs debconf scripts, which are the (ones such as) .postinst and .postrm ones in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 01:16.18 | z8000 | ok |
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| 01:17.07 | enouf | z8000: you also might find the 'configure-debian' pkg handy (to show which can be "dpkg-reconfigure <pkgname>" to alter settings) |
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| 01:17.57 | foxtrot | whats a secure command for useradding a new user |
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| 01:18.20 | foxtrot | dpkg useradd |
| 01:18.20 | dpkg | from memory, useradd is a command to create users on your system |
| 01:18.20 | z8000 | man you guys are thorough! most other channels are full of people much less helpful. |
| 01:18.51 | jrdave | enouf: cat /proc/meminfo shows 516536KB... which is 504.4MB not 512MB as reported in BIOS |
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| 01:20.14 | jrdave | enouf: Windoze reports 512MB!!! |
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| 01:21.14 | enouf | jrdave: do you know what MiB is? |
| 01:21.28 | jrdave | MB=1024KB |
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| 01:22.51 | enouf | no, MiB==1024, linux is reporting MiB |
| 01:23.21 | jrdave | enouf: I dont understand |
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| 01:23.40 | enouf | foxtrot: secure? |
| 01:23.49 | luke3321 | How can I make evolution show a message as "John Smith <jsmith@gmail.com>" instead of just the email address in the "From" column? |
| 01:23.55 | enouf | jrdave: i don't either ... i could care less honestly |
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| 01:24.10 | jrdave | enouf: oh... sweet... well thanks then |
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| 01:25.13 | adb | !binary units |
| 01:25.13 | dpkg | binary units is probably 'k', 'M', 'G' each have two common meanings, the binary and the decimal, e.g. k can mean 1,024 (binary) or 1,000 (decimal). There's a new set of prefixes 'Ki', 'Mi' etc for the 2^X meanings - See http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html and http://www.pcguide.com/res/tablesBinDec-c.html. Hard disk manufacturers use 1MB = 1,000,000 bytes, so that they can sell you smaller disks than you expect. |
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| 01:26.22 | foxtrot | enouf: just a good practice one, I am writing a script to setup accounts and i want to use the best one-liner possible for it |
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| 01:27.15 | adb | foxtrot: man adduser |
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| 01:27.29 | enouf | foxtrot: i'm not sure, but checkout /etc/default/useradd and /etc/adduser* |
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| 01:39.15 | rtmex | Hello all, I'm trying to install Debian woody via ftp |
| 01:39.51 | adb | why woody ? |
| 01:40.43 | rtmex | but I don't know the exactly url I need since the installer says server unavailable or not release file contained |
| 01:40.45 | rtmex | becuz is a 386sx with just 16MB of RAM |
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| 01:41.42 | rtmex | I tryied http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/woody and every posibble paht on that site and nothing |
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| 01:42.54 | adb | deb http://archive.debian.org/debian woody main |
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| 01:43.34 | rtmex | adb the floppy installer would recognize that? I guess that line would work in an apt file |
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| 01:44.15 | adb | try it and see |
| 01:44.23 | rtmex | ok, let me try :) |
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| 01:45.20 | VerusGladiator | Do you people know of any program that can add a wallpaper to ttys? |
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| 01:46.41 | adb | what's `ttys` ? |
| 01:47.02 | VerusGladiator | ctrl + alt + f1 |
| 01:47.26 | rtmex | adb: it didn't work, it says unknown protocol |
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| 01:47.40 | rtmex | as I told you, that line will only work on an apt file :) |
| 01:48.03 | z8000 | adb: I assume he means how do you have a background image on a xterm or something. |
| 01:48.08 | adb | VerusGladiator: tty1 -6 |
| 01:48.09 | VerusGladiator | Maybe he doesn't know how to return to X now. :) |
| 01:48.13 | VerusGladiator | Yes. |
| 01:48.19 | JyZyGyZyX | where does debian openvpn put its error logs? |
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| 01:48.59 | adb | /var/log ? |
| 01:49.09 | JyZyGyZyX | under what name |
| 01:49.28 | adb | take a look man |
| 01:49.39 | JyZyGyZyX | i took a look |
| 01:49.58 | JyZyGyZyX | do you think i would be asking here if it was /var/log/openvpn.log |
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| 01:51.42 | racecar56 | ttest |
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| 01:51.46 | wad | Got a new computer, yay! I just installed a bare-bones debian lenny on it. Since the machine will not have a hard drive (OS lives on a USB drive), I'm being as tight as I can on disk space, so I went with the tiniest install I could. But now there are a couple of things preventing me for proceeding. 1. No network, 2. can't mount the IDE CD-ROM drive for some reason. Anyone have a pointer for me? |
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| 01:52.13 | adb | rtmex: change to http instead of ftp |
| 01:52.16 | racecar56 | anyone know a irc client that has history like xchat but has qt? |
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| 01:52.39 | wad | racecar56, have you tried bitchx? |
| 01:52.49 | racecar56 | wad: no |
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| 01:52.53 | wad | racecar56, wait, that's a curses app, I think. |
| 01:52.55 | racecar56 | wad: never used it before but i tried it |
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| 01:53.01 | racecar56 | wad: once |
| 01:53.11 | racecar56 | wad: wait a minute... |
| 01:53.22 | racecar56 | wad: slipped, i tried it once but thats the only time |
| 01:53.32 | racecar56 | wad: yes it is curses |
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| 01:54.16 | JPT | since the last server-update i am unable to su to users which have no password... |
| 01:54.25 | racecar56 | i know that konversation has it but not much of it, maybe i can configure it |
| 01:54.33 | JPT | i can su to them, but when i type one single char, i'm automagically logged out |
| 01:55.00 | JPT | hmm |
| 01:55.08 | JPT | actually i cannot su from root to anybody |
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| 01:57.03 | rtmex | adb: I'm using http |
| 01:57.20 | JPT | mhh |
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| 01:58.10 | PrMoriarty | hello how can i get the src of the linux system binary? |
| 01:58.34 | gravity | PrMoriarty: Where did the binary come from? |
| 01:58.37 | pickcoder | PrMoriarty: which binary |
| 01:58.39 | PrMoriarty | want to read the code of ls, cd, objdump etc? |
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| 01:58.50 | PrMoriarty | it s the system base binary |
| 01:59.01 | gravity | PrMoriarty: apt-get source yourpackage if you have the src lines in your sources.list |
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| 01:59.19 | gravity | PrMoriarty: Or just go to packages.debian.org and pull it down manually |
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| 01:59.33 | PrMoriarty | i want the source code of "ls" command |
| 01:59.48 | gravity | You can use dpkg -S to find out where the ls binary is stored |
| 01:59.54 | gravity | Or rather, in which package it came from |
| 01:59.58 | PrMoriarty | for the other binary i know the command apt-get source "package" |
| 02:00.07 | PrMoriarty | gravity, understood |
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| 02:01.07 | mnuhmnuh | PrMoriarty: apt-file search $blah is useful too. |
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| 02:01.26 | PrMoriarty | mnuhmnuh, thank you |
| 02:01.34 | pickcoder | PrMoriarty: apt-get source coreutils |
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| 02:02.04 | enouf | PrMoriarty: apt-cache showsrc pkgn..<TAB><TAB> |
| 02:02.04 | PrMoriarty | pickcoder, thanks ;) |
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| 02:06.01 | mnuhmnuh | PrMoriarty: aptitude show coreutils |
| 02:06.46 | PrMoriarty | thanks a lot i found |
| 02:07.18 | PrMoriarty | the real problem in fact was to found from whick pacakge come from the binary "ls" |
| 02:08.30 | mnuhmnuh | PrMoriarty: that's why apt-file is so useful. |
| 02:09.43 | adb | rtmex: debootstrap woody woody http://archive.debian.org/debian , works here ;) I: Base system installed successfully |
| 02:10.45 | PrMoriarty | nice |
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| 02:15.28 | rtmex | adb: you just put http://archive.debian.org/debian |
| 02:15.33 | rtmex | ? |
| 02:15.43 | adb | yes |
| 02:16.07 | rtmex | don't you have to say if you want woody, slink, etc??? |
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| 02:16.56 | mnuhmnuh | rtmex: what was the question? :-) |
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| 02:17.28 | adb | i installed a woody in woody/ folder using deboostrap , as showed |
| 02:18.10 | adb | rtmex: ^^ |
| 02:18.23 | rtmex | adb: You were right, I don't know why it dind't worked before, I musttyped wrong I think |
| 02:18.58 | rtmex | mnuhmnuh: I need it the url for installing woody via ftp :) |
| 02:18.59 | mnuhmnuh | rtmex: btdt |
| 02:19.35 | adb | rtmex: i guess via ftp is dropped |
| 02:19.41 | rtmex | adb: thanks |
| 02:19.47 | mnuhmnuh | rtmex: no, woody's long dead. you want stable, at least (lenny). |
| 02:20.35 | rtmex | mnuhmnuh: I'm installing it on a 386sx with just 16MB RAM |
| 02:20.46 | rtmex | so lenny won't work |
| 02:21.04 | mnuhmnuh | rtmex: Damn Small Linux, Debian based. |
| 02:21.34 | CcSsNET | slitaz |
| 02:21.37 | rtmex | mnuhmnuh, thanks but I don't want a loop installation :) |
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| 02:23.10 | _sid_ | rtmex: you might want to check out http://www.delilinux.org/index.html for installing some really lightweight distro |
| 02:23.25 | adb | rtmex: i run sid on 32MB ram ... but m68k motorola processor |
| 02:23.33 | mnuhmnuh | rtmex: bootable usbkey install! :-) unetbootin.* |
| 02:24.09 | adb | mnuhmnuh: heh usbkey on 386sx .. |
| 02:24.37 | rtmex | mnuhmnuh: usb was not invented when 386sx was made :) |
| 02:24.45 | mnuhmnuh | Sigh. yeah, that's a stretch. |
| 02:25.34 | rtmex | adb: the max memory this mahcine supports is 16Mb |
| 02:25.42 | mnuhmnuh | usb --> serial converter?!? |
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| 02:27.01 | rtmex | mnuhmnuh: This machine has a CD, I can download the ISO image if I want, but, I'm trying to put in the shows of those that don't have a CD-ROM :) |
| 02:27.09 | rtmex | and show them that it's possible |
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| 02:27.39 | mnuhmnuh | with no X running, and few services running, it should boot slow, but function. |
| 02:28.05 | rtmex | _sid_thanks for the tip, I know delilinux, but I don't want redhat or slackware based distros, :) |
| 02:28.25 | rtmex | mnuhmnuh: yes, I won't instaal X |
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| 02:28.44 | adb | rtmex: have a FPU proc too , and which clock rate ? |
| 02:29.01 | rtmex | adb: no FPU, 40mhz :) |
| 02:29.27 | mnuhmnuh | give it plenty of swap, as fast a disk as you can find (SSD?). |
| 02:29.51 | rtmex | mnuhmnuh: I made a 32MB swap partition |
| 02:30.04 | rtmex | not need more if not running X :) |
| 02:30.07 | mnuhmnuh | rtmex: plenty. |
| 02:30.26 | rtmex | mnuhmnuh: the HD is only 630MB |
| 02:30.43 | rtmex | so I can't make a 256 MB swap :) |
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| 02:31.05 | adb | AMD proc ? |
| 02:31.21 | rtmex | adb: yes. AMD :) |
| 02:31.37 | adb | i have one in my hands |
| 02:31.44 | rtmex | really? |
| 02:31.47 | adb | yes |
| 02:32.02 | rtmex | and what did you installt it? |
| 02:32.22 | adb | nothing for moment |
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| 02:32.28 | rtmex | ok :) |
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| 02:32.32 | type32 | I noticed something is failing after 2 fresh installs of debian. One was fresh lenny (minimal) then upgrade to squeeze. Other squeeze netinstall |
| 02:32.38 | type32 | Problem is at http://pastebin.com/d419e5316 |
| 02:32.39 | mnuhmnuh | i must say, you're even more of a Don Quixote than I. That machine is a serious waste of time. Bon chance. :-) |
| 02:33.11 | rtmex | mnuhmnuh: I like the challenge :) |
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| 02:33.30 | adb | AMD Am 386DX-40 |
| 02:33.36 | type32 | I don't think I need sane, since I never use scanners, but FAM I don't know about |
| 02:33.46 | rtmex | mine is 386SX-40 |
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| 02:35.03 | DarkJustice | I have two issues, one which I hope is fairly easy... I have a USB webcam but I get the error messsage "Could not connect to video device (/dev/Video0)" .. I don't really use it but I have my son this week and no other way to take any pics of him, any help would be extremely appreciate |
| 02:35.30 | rtmex | adb: why you said ftp install was dropped? |
| 02:35.32 | DarkJustice | appreciated^ |
| 02:35.39 | mnuhmnuh | rtmex: I learned a lot the other day, attempting to shoehorn * onto an old Toshiba. Not wasted time. :-) |
| 02:36.31 | adb | rtmex: i tried url http: ... in ftp:// and wont worked ;-( |
| 02:36.41 | rtmex | mnuhmnuh: Of couers, I don't see it as a waste of time, I installed Lenny on a Toshiba with only 64MB RAM and 6Gb HD |
| 02:37.17 | rtmex | add: The machine now says Validating http://...Packages.gz |
| 02:37.23 | rtmex | So I think it's working |
| 02:37.39 | adb | found too an AMD Am 386DX/DLX-40 |
| 02:39.59 | mnuhmnuh | rtmex: that's the machine I was trying the other day. It only *sporadically* boot froM CD-ROM. :-P |
| 02:41.57 | rtmex | adb: this is the proeceesor I have http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ic-photo-AMD--Am386SX-40--(NG80386SX-40)--(386-CPU).png |
| 02:42.11 | _sid_ | When I once installed Debian in 2000 I just unpacked one or two litte tar archives on a formatted partition and made the harddisk bootable. After that I could boot the machine and do an apt-get install blabla, that was all. No floppy installer involved. Don't know if this works with woody. |
| 02:43.01 | adb | rtmex: No file by this name exists. |
| 02:43.31 | mnuhmnuh | rtmex: do you have a FP chip too, or just SX? |
| 02:44.00 | mnuhmnuh | lsmod? |
| 02:44.24 | mnuhmnuh | cat /proc/cpu<TAB> |
| 02:45.00 | paissad | guys, i begin with debian, so don't be hard with me :) ... i did apt-cache search netbeans but i had no good results, |
| 02:45.11 | paissad | but netbeans exits here |
| 02:45.24 | DarkJustice | anyone at all have any suggesttions for the usb cam? |
| 02:45.50 | CcSsNET | apt-cache search net | grep beans |
| 02:46.03 | rtmex | mnuhmnuh; just SX |
| 02:46.04 | paissad | http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/pool/contrib/n/netbeans-ide/netbeans-ide_6.0.1+dfsg-2_all.deb |
| 02:46.27 | paissad | knowing that http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian is in my /etc/apt/source.list |
| 02:46.52 | adb | judd: versions netbeans-ide |
| 02:46.52 | mnuhmnuh | paissad: aptitude search beans |
| 02:46.52 | judd | adb: netbeans-ide -- lenny/contrib: 6.0.1+dfsg-2 sid/contrib: 6.0.1+dfsg-2 squeeze/contrib: 6.0.1+dfsg-2 |
| 02:46.56 | rtmex | adb: search for this on google american micro devices am386sx-40 |
| 02:47.05 | adb | ok |
| 02:47.29 | rtmex | ad; is that what you ment? or what file were you talking baoiut? :) |
| 02:47.36 | rtmex | about |
| 02:47.57 | adb | yes your link don't worked |
| 02:47.57 | paissad | mnuhmnuh, no result |
| 02:48.49 | adb | paissad: add contrib to sources.list |
| 02:48.52 | Cain | paissad : it's a contrib package if you want it you have to add contrib on source.list |
| 02:49.06 | Cain | deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib <== here |
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| 02:51.05 | rtmex | adb: Th installation is going on, the files are being retrieved |
| 02:51.07 | paissad | do you have a link to edit the /etc/apt/source.list in order to add some repositories to have access to much more packages ? |
| 02:51.40 | enouf | paissad: generally /msg dpkg dmm ; and /msg dpkg contrib and /msg dpkg non-free (will all do) |
| 02:51.53 | adb | rtmex: cool , all install will take 36 hours .. |
| 02:52.20 | mnuhmnuh | paissad: debian includes ca. 18k pkgs already. ;-) |
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| 02:52.25 | rtmex | adb: just the base system? I don't think that much :) |
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| 02:52.38 | adb | no . a bit more |
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| 02:53.15 | enouf | oh, and if using Lenny paissad /msg dpkg bpo |
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| 02:53.32 | rtmex | adb: SO i don't think you are plannign to install woody on your 386dx mahcine :) |
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| 02:53.46 | adb | heh |
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| 02:54.28 | rtmex | well, I have to go now, thank you all :) |
| 02:54.48 | adb | later rtmex ;) |
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| 03:07.17 | houdini | I'm sure this is a dumb question, so free free to tell me RTFM (with a pointer to TFM, please) |
| 03:07.35 | houdini | I have a recent install of Lenny, upgraded from 4.0 (etch?) |
| 03:07.54 | houdini | I don't seem to have either the ipip or gre tunnel modules available. how do I get them? |
| 03:08.07 | houdini | from a google search, it looks like people just have them, no installing needed |
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| 03:08.28 | enouf | houdini: filename: /lib/modules/2.6.29-2-686/kernel/drivers/net/tun.ko ? |
| 03:09.10 | enouf | houdini: modinfo <modulename> should do - whose kernel? Debian made? |
| 03:09.23 | houdini | all I've got in /lib/modules/2.6.(my kernel)/drivers/ is scsi/ |
| 03:09.36 | houdini | pretty sure it's the debian kernel |
| 03:09.48 | houdini | clanspum:~# uname -a |
| 03:09.49 | houdini | Linux clanspum.net 2.6.27.25-20090615a #1 SMP Mon Jun 15 08:04:18 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 03:10.19 | houdini | tell me if I'm wrong :) |
| 03:10.30 | enouf | houdini: erm .. did you use make-kpkg? debian source? grep TUN /boot/config-`uname -r` |
| 03:10.39 | enouf | houdini: it's not |
| 03:10.43 | houdini | hm |
| 03:10.49 | adb | ibuntu |
| 03:10.53 | houdini | ok, one of the other admins here must have been messing with it |
| 03:10.56 | houdini | grr |
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| 03:11.29 | houdini | or... |
| 03:11.36 | enouf | ~$ egrep 'IPIP|CONFIG_TUN' /boot/config-`uname -r` | xargs |
| 03:11.46 | enouf | CONFIG_NET_IPIP=m CONFIG_TUN=m |
| 03:11.50 | houdini | I'm using the debian mirror that my dedicated server company provides. wonder if they gave me something strange |
| 03:12.08 | houdini | clanspum:~# egrep 'IPIP|CONFIG_TUN' /boot/config-`uname -r` | xargs |
| 03:12.08 | houdini | # CONFIG_NET_IPIP is not set CONFIG_TUN=y |
| 03:12.10 | enouf | !versions |
| 03:12.13 | enouf | !version |
| 03:12.13 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a, or cat /proc/version. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distros |
| 03:12.45 | mnuhmnuh | houdini: you need to install ipip. at least. |
| 03:12.57 | houdini | I looked at that |
| 03:13.05 | houdini | it looks like it is separate from the kernel ipip module |
| 03:13.07 | enouf | houdini: your missing a LOT if "23:09 < houdini> all I've got in /lib/modules/2.6.(my kernel)/drivers/ is scsi/" |
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| 03:13.19 | houdini | I'd use it, but there doesn't seem to be any documentation for it |
| 03:13.26 | enouf | houdini: and if it's not configured all as =y .. heh |
| 03:13.28 | houdini | (the ipip daemon, package named ipip) |
| 03:13.35 | houdini | shrugs |
| 03:13.39 | houdini | seems to work ok, except for this :) |
| 03:14.03 | enouf | you can check the config as i mentioned |
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| 03:14.51 | houdini | I don't quite follow how I would use that to figure out the kernel ver |
| 03:14.53 | houdini | sorry |
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| 03:15.08 | fogus | I am having a hard time shutting down an eth interface |
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| 03:15.16 | mnuhmnuh | eh? uname -a |
| 03:15.37 | enouf | i'm talking about built in (=y) or built as modules (=m) or #not set |
| 03:15.38 | paissad_ | my keyboard is type qwerty when i use xfce4 guys, how can i change it please |
| 03:15.49 | fogus | why can't I do "ethdown eth1" ? |
| 03:15.50 | houdini | clanspum:~# uname -r |
| 03:15.50 | houdini | 2.6.27.25-20090615a |
| 03:16.00 | houdini | ok, I'll go beat the other admins into telling me what they've done |
| 03:16.01 | houdini | thanks |
| 03:16.10 | enouf | fogus: ifdown? |
| 03:16.18 | paissad_ | i even typed loadkeys fr |
| 03:16.22 | paissad_ | nothing changed |
| 03:16.22 | fogus | enouf: or ethdown? |
| 03:16.29 | enouf | never heard of ethdown |
| 03:16.59 | adb | setxkbmap fr , paissad |
| 03:17.06 | fogus | enouf: well, how do you shutdown an eth ? |
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| 03:17.09 | enouf | paissad_: for X use .... ahh too fast that adb |
| 03:17.20 | paissad_ | ok i see now thanks ! |
| 03:17.37 | enouf | shutdown? ifdown it, or ifconfig <iface> down |
| 03:18.01 | paissad_ | do i really need to add to the rc.local for startup or is there another way to fix that ? |
| 03:18.33 | paissad_ | i don't really want to type manually setxkbmap fr after each startup |
| 03:18.46 | fogus | enouf: ifdown: interface eth2 not configured |
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| 03:19.35 | mnuhmnuh | paissad_: this should be controlled by your X config, I think. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ... |
| 03:19.36 | enouf | fogus: ls /sys/class/net should show known ifaces |
| 03:19.42 | adb | paissad: dpkg-reconfigure console-data , and dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 03:20.06 | enouf | paissad_: XkbOption in xorg.conf |
| 03:20.28 | fogus | enouf: my bad. I had it commented out in the /etc/network/interfaces |
| 03:20.33 | enouf | paissad_: er, Option "XkbLayout |
| 03:20.33 | fogus | works now |
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| 03:20.49 | enouf | ok ;-) |
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| 03:21.56 | enouf | paissad_: you could perhaps also utilize your ~/.config/autostart/*.sh files for autoloading things when your WM starts or whatever |
| 03:22.15 | adb | paissad: http://www.commentcamarche.net/forum/affich-2201638-clavier-a-reconfigurer-systematiquement |
| 03:22.15 | enouf | paissad_: but an xorg.conf entry seems best to me |
| 03:22.46 | paissad_ | my xorg.conf is empty ! |
| 03:22.49 | paissad_ | weird |
| 03:23.10 | adb | paissad: X -configure |
| 03:23.19 | enouf | xfce likely has xfce4-session and things, even update-alternatives --config xfce4-session-* or something |
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| 03:24.15 | enouf | paissad_: for completeness, /msg dpkg locales |
| 03:25.12 | enouf | oh - adb beat me there too :-/ |
| 03:25.27 | enouf | !win adb |
| 03:25.27 | dpkg | Congratulations, adb! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 03:25.35 | houdini | hm |
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| 03:25.49 | adb | !!win enouf |
| 03:26.39 | adb | houdini: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 03:26.43 | adb | says ? |
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| 03:29.03 | enouf | cat /proc/version too :-) |
| 03:29.12 | enouf | but we already know it's not a Debian kernel |
| 03:30.35 | JyZyGyZyX | /etc/init.d/openvpn start |
| 03:30.37 | JyZyGyZyX | Starting virtual private network daemon: client failed! |
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| 03:30.46 | JyZyGyZyX | i would really like to know where the more verbose log file is |
| 03:32.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | houdini, possibly also dpkg -l linux-image\* |grep ii to see how tinkering went |
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| 03:32.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | JyZyGyZyX, /var/log/ ? :) |
| 03:33.01 | JyZyGyZyX | and in what file? |
| 03:33.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | *vpn*? |
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| 03:33.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | also... dmesg |tail ... and /var/log/messages |
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| 03:34.45 | pickcoder | JyZyGyZyX: syslog |
| 03:34.58 | pickcoder | look for ovpn |
| 03:35.01 | JyZyGyZyX | oh ok |
| 03:35.11 | JyZyGyZyX | now we talkin |
| 03:35.35 | JyZyGyZyX | lol the problem was i forgot to use sudo |
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| 03:36.07 | ksnp | how do i make a few scripts start upon boot up ? |
| 03:36.20 | Cain | where to find the logs for started daemons (on startup) ? |
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| 03:36.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | dmesg |
| 03:36.54 | Cain | i don't see them in dmesg |
| 03:37.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | scrolling up 4 lines might provide some alternatives |
| 03:37.25 | Cain | CutMeOwnThroat : i just see hardware in dmesg |
| 03:37.43 | DarkJustice | uggh, what's the command to find out what my cam is on it's apparently not /dev/Video0 |
| 03:38.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | I think we just discussed logs quite exhaustively :) |
| 03:38.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | DarkJustice, watch the messages in dmesg when you connect it? |
| 03:38.36 | Cain | CutMeOwnThroat : oh i missed it then :/ (^^) |
| 03:38.47 | adb | dpkg: tell Cain -about bootlog |
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| 03:39.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | not exhaustively yet, then |
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| 03:39.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | but gettin close |
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| 03:40.47 | DarkJustice | ok that's odd it's deregistrering it |
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| 03:41.00 | DarkJustice | and it says it's v4l2 and it's not |
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| 03:42.54 | pickcoder | DarkJustice: what driver is being loaded |
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| 03:43.22 | DarkJustice | pickcoder: gspca driver 01.00.20 registered |
| 03:43.45 | pickcoder | what does lsusb say about the device |
| 03:44.03 | DarkJustice | Bus 002 Device 007: ID 0c45:600d Microdia TwinkleCam USB camera |
| 03:44.21 | adb | judd: pciid 0c45:600d |
| 03:44.22 | judd | adb: [0c45:600d] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in lenny or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=0c45:600d |
| 03:45.22 | DarkJustice | I did modprobe -r gspca and modprobe -r sn9c102 before and did a wget of the gspca driver so that's the only one on the system |
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| 03:46.42 | Cain | adb : arigato ^^ |
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| 03:46.48 | pickcoder | try the sn9c102 driver |
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| 03:47.14 | DarkJustice | snap! I removed it |
| 03:47.15 | pickcoder | debug=3 |
| 03:47.23 | pickcoder | modprobe sn9c102 debug=3 |
| 03:47.33 | pickcoder | dmesg should show more detail |
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| 03:48.01 | DarkJustice | oh yeah dmesg has more info but I didn't wanna paste it in here |
| 03:48.13 | pickcoder | did it create the video device? |
| 03:48.17 | ksnp | anyone know shell script here ? i have code http://pastebin.com/m35952466 but get errors |
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| 03:48.23 | DarkJustice | yes |
| 03:48.31 | ksnp | can someone take a quick look at tell how to fix it ? its just 8 lines |
| 03:48.40 | pickcoder | if that one worked then the gspca driver should work too |
| 03:48.45 | pickcoder | just don't load them both |
| 03:48.46 | adb | ksnp: try #bash |
| 03:48.53 | DarkJustice | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:48.55 | ksnp | ok |
| 03:49.09 | pickcoder | oh well.. the debug option is moot then |
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| 03:49.25 | adb | ksnp: just next room ;) |
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| 03:49.45 | DarkJustice | I'm getting this error though......... usb 2-1: usb_submit_urb() failed, error -28 |
| 03:49.59 | DarkJustice | unfort. I'm new to linux and that means very little to me |
| 03:50.10 | ksnp | yep i joined but no response :( |
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| 03:50.33 | adb | ksnp: keep waiting |
| 03:50.50 | DarkJustice | pickcoder: the cam worked up until about a month ago when gspca updated and now nothing |
| 03:50.52 | ricoshady | everytime my apache rotates the logs it crashes, any ideas? |
| 03:50.52 | ksnp | ya got some, but not yet conclusive |
| 03:51.19 | adb | ksnp: keep quiet here , too |
| 03:51.20 | DarkJustice | and I don't really use the thing but I din't have a digital cam and I have my son this week and cut his hair, I'd like to get some pics |
| 03:51.39 | pickcoder | DarkJustice: how much stuff is plugged into your primary hub |
| 03:51.57 | DarkJustice | pickcoder: 4 usb devices plugged into the board |
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| 03:53.05 | DarkJustice | pickcoder: when I do lsusb though I get 7 listings |
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| 03:53.25 | pickcoder | which kernel is this |
| 03:54.06 | DarkJustice | pickcoder: uhh crud, not sure I know it's lenny |
| 03:54.25 | pickcoder | uname -r |
| 03:54.43 | DarkJustice | pickcoder: 2.6.26-2-686 |
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| 03:57.52 | DarkJustice | I should have stuck with winblows, I feel totally stupid on this |
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| 03:58.48 | adb | keep trying, knowledge is power |
| 03:59.12 | adb | dpkg: tell DarkJustice -about grounding |
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| 04:00.05 | pickcoder | DarkJustice: I dunno at this point. I've seen lots of problems with v4l under .28+ with the gspca driver |
| 04:00.15 | pickcoder | try unplugging everything from the USB hub except the cam |
| 04:00.41 | DarkJustice | then I lose my mouse and KB though lol |
| 04:00.42 | pickcoder | if it's not a power/bandwidth issue then it's the driver |
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| 04:00.45 | pickcoder | leave those on |
| 04:00.49 | pickcoder | they don't draw that much |
| 04:01.11 | pickcoder | drives, especially, run in high-speed mode |
| 04:01.11 | DarkJustice | ok the 4th item is the printer but it's turned off |
| 04:01.51 | DarkJustice | just irritates me that it worked fine before, haven't made any hardware changes, and when gspca updated last time it stopped |
| 04:02.59 | ajavid | hey pick |
| 04:02.59 | DarkJustice | I've been googling for a few days and reading diff. forums, seems I've done everything they've said |
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| 04:05.17 | DarkJustice | whoah I fixed it |
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| 04:05.56 | mnuhmnuh | DarkJustice: about time. :-) |
| 04:06.19 | DarkJustice | hehe I'm a lil slow and new to this |
| 04:06.33 | DarkJustice | here's one though... the more difficult issue |
| 04:06.58 | DarkJustice | the system seems to hang a lot, just totally freeze up, and I don't have another system I can ssh in with while it's frozen to see what's going on |
| 04:07.45 | adb | DarkJustice: try a memtest |
| 04:08.17 | DarkJustice | adb: sorry but how do I do that? |
| 04:08.20 | adb | dpkg: tell DarkJustice -about memtest |
| 04:08.26 | mnuhmnuh | DarkJustice: PuTTY from any Win* box? |
| 04:08.44 | DarkJustice | mnuhmnuh: dont have a win box :( |
| 04:09.00 | mnuhmnuh | me neither. |
| 04:09.16 | mnuhmnuh | friends? |
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| 04:09.31 | adb | echo )))) me neither |
| 04:09.41 | DarkJustice | not any that would have a clue what to look for when it freezes lol |
| 04:10.07 | adb | DarkJustice: live your IP and passwd |
| 04:10.16 | adb | run away |
| 04:10.28 | DarkJustice | hahahaha |
| 04:10.44 | pickcoder | DarkJustice: if you have anything with a serial port you can use a serial console |
| 04:10.51 | ricoshady | any apache/logrotates gurus? when logrotate runs it crashes my apache process? any ideas? |
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| 04:11.21 | DarkJustice | unfortunately this is the only box I have |
| 04:11.48 | pickcoder | memtest86 first then |
| 04:12.41 | DarkJustice | don't suppose that's the command to run in bash is it? |
| 04:13.05 | adb | not it run from grub at boot |
| 04:13.30 | DarkJustice | ok saw that in the msg from dpkg just thought there was a way to do it now lol |
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| 04:13.46 | pickcoder | DarkJustice: that tester is normally a boot-up tester |
| 04:13.50 | pickcoder | floppy or CD boot |
| 04:13.59 | Dominicus | Does anyone have any recent experience with ntfs-3g? Is it stable enough to use? Last time I tried a few months ago, it was disgustingly slow. At least 10x slower than what I would have expected. Does anyone know if this has improved or not? |
| 04:14.03 | icedwater | Hi, I'm using Debian lenny amd64, and I can't get my wireless card recognised. |
| 04:14.39 | adb | pickcoder: ? no any need of floppy or CD boot |
| 04:14.39 | icedwater | Any ideas how I could set up atheros support? I tried installing atl2-module-2.6 but it didn't help. |
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| 04:15.02 | adb | !ath5k |
| 04:15.02 | dpkg | [ath5k] a completely free (no proprietary HAL) driver for Atheros 5xxx PCI wireless LAN chipsets. See http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k for more information and supported devices. Included in Debian kernels since 2.6.24. NOT for AR5007UG (aka AR2624/AR5524) chipsets, ask me about <zd1211rw> instead. For 802.11n device support, ask me about <ath9k>. See also <wireless tree>. |
| 04:15.12 | pickcoder | adb: I've always booted it from media so nothing is in the middle |
| 04:15.28 | DarkJustice | ok I edited the menu.lst in boot/grub, will reboot and hope it works.... is there anything specific I should be watching for? |
| 04:16.05 | pickcoder | if you have a lot of RAM it can take some time |
| 04:16.13 | DarkJustice | 1GB |
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| 04:16.32 | DarkJustice | which sux cuz it's a dual-core |
| 04:17.16 | DarkJustice | I hope it's a memory issue though I can't afford to replace it |
| 04:17.39 | DarkJustice | bbiaf though, tyvm for the help, and not making me feel like a total moron |
| 04:17.44 | DarkJustice | hope it's not^^^ |
| 04:17.52 | DarkJustice | anyway thx again, bbs |
| 04:17.59 | adb | DarkJustice: later |
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| 04:19.40 | icedwater | adb, thanks. I'll see what I can get. |
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| 04:20.40 | racecar56 | my grub is broken, how do i install it again |
| 04:21.10 | adb | grub-install --recheck ? |
| 04:21.20 | adb | icedwater: about ? |
| 04:21.58 | racecar56 | im on a live cd and i have to do something to fix my grub |
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| 04:22.46 | adb | !fixgrub |
| 04:22.46 | dpkg | fixgrub is, like, As root: mkdir /mnt/point ; mount -t <fstype> -orw /dev/blah /mnt/point (where /blah = your / partition) ; mount --bind /dev /mnt/point/dev ; mount --bind /proc /mnt/point/proc ; chroot /mnt/point ; grub-install /dev/blah (to install in MBR) |
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| 04:23.25 | mnuhmnuh | racecar56: describe. What's fstab & grub use, UUID or /dev/[sh]d*? |
| 04:23.32 | icedwater | Hmm... well, it seems the default install has already detected and loaded the ath5k module |
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| 04:23.50 | adb | cool |
| 04:23.53 | icedwater | But I still can't find a wireless network, even though I'm sitting next to the router! |
| 04:24.15 | adb | wifi-radar , wicd |
| 04:24.49 | icedwater | Hm... so network-manager is not recommended? :P It was the first thing I installed, coming from an Ubuntu setup :P |
| 04:25.04 | racecar56 | adb: it dosen't work when i do the final step |
| 04:25.21 | racecar56 | mnuhmnuh: ? |
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| 04:25.44 | adb | icedwater: (nope maybe just me ) |
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| 04:27.11 | racecar56 | how do i fix grub |
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| 04:27.26 | DarkJustice | ok that didn't work gonna have to make a memtest floppy |
| 04:28.05 | mnuhmnuh | racecar56: pastebin /etc/fstab /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 04:28.54 | mnuhmnuh | !pastebin |
| 04:28.54 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
| 04:29.22 | fogus | hey guys. I just installed tftpd to do the pxe install. what I don't get is how to start it up. what is the generic way to start something that you just installed? I read the man page and it only says that some pathnames can be set in the /etc/initd.conf file. how do I setup tftpd so that it can accept requests for a pxe boot? what files do I need to put on the server for a pxe boot? |
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| 04:31.07 | jerc | some one can help me with mysql? |
| 04:31.12 | mnuhmnuh | fogus: /etc/init.d/$blah start |
| 04:31.30 | mnuhmnuh | jerc: possibly. :-) |
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| 04:32.08 | mnuhmnuh | fogus: also see /etc/default/* |
| 04:33.03 | fogus | mnuhmnuh: what does the /etc/default/* do? |
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| 04:33.48 | fogus | mnuhmnuh: I get "-bash: etc/init.d/tftpd: No such file or directory" when I do "etc/init.d/tftpd start" |
| 04:33.57 | jerc | i need a database for a login the true is that i don't know much i was trying to learn in w w w.php. net but i can't understand |
| 04:34.10 | mnuhmnuh | fogus: overall config stuff for daemons. that may be where it's turned on or off. |
| 04:35.10 | mnuhmnuh | fogus: need a leading "/"? |
| 04:35.15 | fogus | mnuhmnuh: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/130232/ |
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| 04:35.35 | fogus | mnuhmnuh: -bash: /etc/init.d/tftpd: No such file or directory |
| 04:36.30 | fogus | mnuhmnuh: also http://paste.pocoo.org/show/130234/ |
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| 04:37.26 | fogus | its strange. I can open the manual. I installed it. I cannot find it anywhere though. where does aptitude install it normally? |
| 04:37.35 | mnuhmnuh | fogus: yup, nothing there about *ftp*. :-| |
| 04:38.00 | fogus | I did a find . / -name tftpd and it turned up: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/130235/ |
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| 04:39.47 | lefty556 | fogus: hey what are you looking for? |
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| 04:39.49 | adb | fogus: dpkg -l tftpd , says ? |
| 04:40.06 | fogus | lefty556: I am trying to install tftpd so I can do a pxe install |
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| 04:41.01 | fogus | I'll be back... |
| 04:41.10 | mnuhmnuh | fogus: hey, you even got a manpage! :-O |
| 04:42.15 | fogus | adb: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/130236/ |
| 04:42.41 | fogus | I don't get what dpkg -| tftpd does |
| 04:42.45 | fogus | brb |
| 04:42.51 | lefty556 | fogus: i just did a search http://paste.pocoo.org/show/130237/ |
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| 04:43.01 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:43.11 | lefty556 | did you install atftpd already? |
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| 04:45.48 | mnuhmnuh | aptitude install tftpd |
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| 04:47.49 | icedwater | adb: Hm, I've installed wifiradar, but nothing has changed as far as I know :( |
| 04:48.24 | fogus | lefty556: no, did I need to? |
| 04:48.26 | adb | and wicd ? |
| 04:48.40 | icedwater | Couldn't find that package in the repos. |
| 04:48.52 | icedwater | Maybe I should try getting a deb from somewhere.. |
| 04:49.00 | mnuhmnuh | icedwater: !paste /etc/network/interfaces |
| 04:49.02 | adb | icedwater: lenny |
| 04:49.11 | adb | ? |
| 04:49.35 | icedwater | Yup, I'm using lenny. |
| 04:49.36 | fogus | uhh, guys? did I miss something? did I install everything I needed to? |
| 04:49.42 | adb | judd: versions wicd |
| 04:49.43 | judd | adb: wicd -- sid: 1.5.2-1 sid: 1.5.9-1 lenny-backports: 1.5.9-5~bpo50+1 sid: 1.6.1-3 squeeze: 1.6.1-3 |
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| 04:50.08 | adb | icedwater: ^^^ lenny-backports |
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| 04:50.24 | icedwater | adb: I'm also on the amd64 version, don't think that makes a difference though would it? |
| 04:50.40 | mnuhmnuh | fogus: describe the symptoms. :-| |
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| 04:51.08 | adb | icedwater: that doesn;t count |
| 04:51.30 | icedwater | I'm also hitting the volatile repo for some things ... not sure why it's set up that way. |
| 04:51.39 | jadew | hi guys, I get this in my mail log, any idea why and how can I make it stop? http://pastebin.com/d4a88a339 |
| 04:51.54 | fogus | mnuhmnuh: when I try to start tftpd, it does not start, it goes "command not found" |
| 04:54.14 | adb | fogus: as root |
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| 04:54.25 | majnoon | is there a way with apt-get you can just upgrade files (foe EXAMPLE update eg kernel 1.2 to 2.6 AND mc .1 to mc1 ) at SAME time after it checks for updates |
| 04:54.32 | fogus | adb: yes, I'm root. I haven't figured out how to do sodoers yet |
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| 04:55.21 | adb | fogus: what's the command to start tftpd ? |
| 04:55.22 | majnoon | fogus, it "sudo command" then it SHOULD ask you for password |
| 04:55.46 | fogus | adb: I can see "ii tftpd 0.17-16 Trivial file transfer protocol server" in the dpkg --list |
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| 04:55.59 | fogus | adb: no, I logged in as root. |
| 04:56.02 | adb | it's ok |
| 04:56.12 | enouf | majnoon: i don;t understand your question |
| 04:56.24 | ganesh | the creative webcam of live Im pro is not supported in debian what to do? |
| 04:56.27 | enouf | your example is weird |
| 04:56.34 | fogus | adb: this is just the basic netintall for amd64 |
| 04:56.47 | majnoon | where i type in command and it automatically installs all possible upgrades |
| 04:56.57 | fogus | adb: I cannot find the command to start tftpd |
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| 04:57.04 | fogus | that is part of the problem I think |
| 04:57.07 | enouf | fogus: have a look at this perhaps http://lackof.org/taggart/hacking/d-i-tricks/ |
| 04:57.27 | ygonza | fogus: apt-cache shows that tftpd depends on xinetd. xinetd will start the tftp daemon "on demand". Check the man pages. |
| 04:57.33 | adb | fogus: 06:51:54] <fogus> mnuhmnuh: when I try to start tftpd, it does not start, it goes "command not found" |
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| 04:58.16 | adb | fogus: a bit weird , no ? |
| 04:58.40 | mnuhmnuh | fogus: shot in the dark: (as root) "updatedb && /etc/cron.daily/find && which tftpd" # though it may be /etc/cron.daily/*locate |
| 04:58.42 | fogus | ygonza: well, if it depends on it, then why doesn't the package manager resolve the dependency? |
| 04:59.36 | fogus | mnuhmnuh: -bash: updatedb: command not found |
| 04:59.38 | mnuhmnuh | fogus: fwiw, i'm amd64 too. |
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| 05:00.04 | adb | fogus: you are not root |
| 05:00.09 | fogus | darn |
| 05:00.12 | adb | agin |
| 05:00.17 | adb | again* |
| 05:00.33 | fogus | how to tell if I am root? |
| 05:00.42 | enouf | whoami |
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| 05:01.25 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:01.39 | icedwater | Heh. |
| 05:02.00 | mnuhmnuh | fogus: aptitude install mlocate |
| 05:02.27 | mnuhmnuh | id |
| 05:02.42 | fogus | mnuhmnuh: I forget now. it says that I am root@debian1 but I think I have to go "su -" or something |
| 05:03.22 | fogus | I tried su - and after I enter "updatedb && /etc/cron.daily/find && which tftpd" I get "-su: updatedb: command not found" |
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| 05:03.45 | mnuhmnuh | fogus: if i'm root here, id says "uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root) |
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| 05:04.12 | fogus | mnuhmnuh: it says "uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)" |
| 05:04.17 | fogus | when I do "I'd" |
| 05:04.18 | ganesh | the creative webcam of live Im pro is not supported in debian what to do? |
| 05:04.36 | fogus | sorry,"id" |
| 05:04.37 | ganesh | is there any driver for this |
| 05:04.44 | adb | fogus: forget that tftpd for now, is to hard for your level , learn first using debian , and try later 1-2 years |
| 05:05.02 | mnuhmnuh | fogus: then you're walking around with lit sticks of dynamite in your hands. :-) |
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| 05:05.32 | fogus | mnuhmnuh: well, what's the best way to get off of root and be more safe? |
| 05:05.43 | mnuhmnuh | exit |
| 05:05.53 | fogus | mnuhmnuh: yes, but then I have to login again |
| 05:06.21 | icedwater | How do I add the backports repositories into Synaptic? |
| 05:06.37 | adb | !backports |
| 05:06.37 | dpkg | backport is probably a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.org/. Ask me about <backports.org> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 05:06.37 | fogus | mnuhmnuh: the sudoers manual is more than 1000 lines long |
| 05:07.05 | mnuhmnuh | login to X Window as normal user. su - to root only when you need to, and get the @#$% out asap. :-) |
| 05:07.26 | icedwater | I've been to backports.org, I'm guessing no other repos have backports sections? Or is backports.org the safest one to add? |
| 05:07.46 | enouf | adb: haha @ " ...try later 1-2 years" |
| 05:08.11 | fogus | mnuhmnuh: but shouldn't I try to use sudoers? |
| 05:08.12 | TiMiDo | can someone please help me with this error http://pastebin.ca/1504007 |
| 05:08.22 | enouf | fogus: sounds like a chroot issue, or something you haven't installed - /msg dpkg installit |
| 05:08.31 | fogus | enouf: I can't wait that long. I have to buld a file server by August |
| 05:08.32 | mnuhmnuh | fogus: I avoid sudo. "su -" and supply root pword. Smiple. [sic] |
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| 05:09.19 | icedwater | Hm... the bot advice is to add only deb-src for backports, but backports.org tells you to add the regular deb repos ... which should I follow? |
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| 05:09.31 | icedwater | (I'm thinking of just adding both and seeing how it goes.) |
| 05:09.37 | adb | icedwater: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free |
| 05:11.03 | craigevil | the deb-src factoid is for building a backport from sid, not using the backports.org repo |
| 05:11.24 | flourish | hello every, i have some opensource softwares for windows in my notebook, and i want to create a autorun cd with intro with each software, any good idea |
| 05:11.58 | flourish | b.t.w i know little about perl :-( |
| 05:12.05 | fogus | mnuhmnuh: it still says "-su: updatedb: command not found" |
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| 05:12.46 | adb | fogus: is trolling for now .. |
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| 05:13.39 | fogus | adb: sorry, man. |
| 05:14.17 | mnuhmnuh | fogus: i admit i've no idea what's going on in debian with *locate & updatedb atm, sorry. it's a mess. |
| 05:14.32 | mnuhmnuh | slocate, mlocate, ... |
| 05:14.45 | fogus | mnuhmnuh: I am confused. is it a mess on my PC or in general? |
| 05:15.07 | mnuhmnuh | in debian, imo. |
| 05:15.18 | fogus | whereis updatedb just gives "updatedb:" |
| 05:15.42 | mnuhmnuh | try as root just running updatedb |
| 05:15.50 | fogus | mnuhmnuh: tell me honestly: should I be running ubuntu? |
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| 05:16.12 | fogus | mnuhmnuh: I did exactly that: "-su: updatedb: command not found" |
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| 05:16.27 | mnuhmnuh | no, lenny. failing that, slackware. |
| 05:16.37 | mnuhmnuh | :-) |
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| 05:16.59 | fogus | I just installed nss-updatedb |
| 05:17.09 | fogus | running updatedb still gives the same error |
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| 05:17.17 | TiMiDo | can someone please help me with this error http://pastebin.ca/1504007 |
| 05:17.19 | fogus | should it work out of the box on a netinstall? |
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| 05:17.39 | mnuhmnuh | (0) infidel /home/keeling_ apt-file search `which updatedb` |
| 05:17.46 | mnuhmnuh | locate: /usr/bin/updatedb.findutils |
| 05:17.46 | mnuhmnuh | mlocate: /usr/bin/updatedb.mlocate |
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| 05:18.13 | TiMiDo | can someone please help me with this error http://pastebin.ca/1504007 |
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| 05:18.42 | fogus | mnuhmnuh: what, do I enter those on the command line? |
| 05:18.55 | mnuhmnuh | fogus: assuming you install locate, you should have it. |
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| 05:19.36 | mnuhmnuh | aptitude install locate |
| 05:19.49 | fogus | darn, I forget again. I'll write it down this time. what does the "p" mean next to a package in aptitude search? |
| 05:20.01 | mnuhmnuh | purged |
| 05:20.09 | fogus | what does that mean? |
| 05:20.31 | mnuhmnuh | not on your box, configs blown away too. |
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| 05:21.32 | icedwater | Hm |
| 05:21.43 | icedwater | It removed network-manager when I installed wicd. |
| 05:21.57 | icedwater | But then I am still unable to see any wireless networks. |
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| 05:22.26 | icedwater | I've checked on my router, and the wireless is definitely still up. |
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| 05:28.27 | J_Dahmer | Howdy |
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| 05:31.43 | ksnp | is thera different way to direct output of script being called in a cron.d file ? |
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| 05:41.02 | icedwater | adb: Still no luck with the wireless, even using wicd. Should I restart networking? |
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| 05:42.22 | ksnp | i don't see crond, but see /usr/sbin/cron - is this the process name on debian ? |
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| 05:42.59 | ksnp | how do i restart cron daemon on debian ? |
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| 05:43.09 | allu2 | hi i got some problem with my audios i am not sure where exactly the problem is i am quite new using debian and after i upgraded to testing version i can only use "one" sound, for example if i listen music from audacious or even just have it running i can't listen music anywhere else |
| 05:44.04 | allu2 | anyone know how i could fic this? |
| 05:44.06 | adb | ksnp: /etc/init.d/cron (re)start ? |
| 05:44.44 | ksnp | ok |
| 05:45.02 | ksnp | is redo_dchp a valid name to put in cron.d ? i see some websites that say don't use . in filenames |
| 05:46.22 | ksnp | files in cron.d need not be executable right |
| 05:47.07 | adb | ksnp: but what are trying to do , in short ? |
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| 05:48.24 | racecar56 | my sessions aren't working, what's wrong? |
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| 05:50.21 | KeyboardWarrior | Okay, big problems. |
| 05:50.37 | KeyboardWarrior | Keyboard isn't working in the Debian installer. :S |
| 05:51.04 | adb | try another Keyboard ? |
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| 05:52.17 | KeyboardWarrior | It worked perfectly at the bootloader prompt for Installer/Graphical install/Whatever |
| 05:52.24 | KeyboardWarrior | Then after boot, stopped working. |
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| 05:52.52 | KeyboardWarrior | (after boot to installer) |
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| 05:53.13 | krfkeith | is there a way to install debian from windows? |
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| 05:53.49 | KeyboardWarrior | krfkeith: http://www.goodbye-windows.com/ |
| 05:54.47 | KeyboardWarrior | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:56.01 | KeyboardWarrior | The hardware is an IBM Aptiva 233 MHz Pentium II with 192 MB of RAM and a 20GB HDD. Well supported by Debian, right? |
| 05:56.12 | KeyboardWarrior | The keyboard is PS/2 (the BIOS doesn't support USB). |
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| 05:57.07 | KeyboardWarrior | It's interesting to note that the keyboard does work if I boot to Debian's graphical installer, but not from the legacy installer that I prefer. |
| 05:57.21 | KeyboardWarrior | Sounds like a bug. |
| 05:57.33 | krfkeith | will that debian installer install grub? |
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| 05:58.14 | KeyboardWarrior | krfkeith: I'm not sure. |
| 05:58.25 | KeyboardWarrior | I'm sure it will offer that option. |
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| 05:58.47 | KeyboardWarrior | Will you be dualbooting? |
| 05:59.04 | KeyboardWarrior | Why do you want to install from within Windows? |
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| 06:00.01 | KeyboardWarrior | Damn it, this is crude. |
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| 06:01.24 | KeyboardWarrior | I have to use two keyboards to get through a Debian install. The first keyboard is PS/2 which is the only thing supported by the BIOS and by extension what is necessary to select the Debian install type from the boot menu. The second is a USB keyboard two actually use for the install because the PS/2 keyboard goes dead. |
| 06:01.31 | KeyboardWarrior | adb: Why? |
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| 06:01.54 | adb | you trolling ? |
| 06:01.59 | KeyboardWarrior | No I'm not. |
| 06:02.15 | KeyboardWarrior | I am trying to find out if anyone knows why my PS/2 keyboard stops working. |
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| 06:02.40 | adb | so use other install method that's all |
| 06:02.42 | KeyboardWarrior | IBM Aptiva Pentium II 233 MHz with 192 MB RAM. |
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| 06:02.59 | KeyboardWarrior | That seems...unnecessary. |
| 06:03.10 | KeyboardWarrior | I'll do the two keyboard thing, though. |
| 06:03.30 | [bm] | hi. where i can download vfat module for Debian 3.0 ? |
| 06:04.02 | KeyboardWarrior | [bm]: From the old Sarge directory on a mirror? |
| 06:04.39 | KeyboardWarrior | Maybe you can get the kernel module for your kernel version. |
| 06:05.07 | [bm] | debian 3.0 == sid ? |
| 06:05.12 | enouf | !sdn |
| 06:05.12 | dpkg | it has been said that snapshots is an archive that contains all Debian packages uploaded since 2002, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way undistributable. Much of 2004 was lost because of harddisk problems. See http://snapshot.debian.net/ for more information. |
| 06:05.14 | KeyboardWarrior | Maybe. |
| 06:05.38 | enouf | no ... /msg dpkg releases |
| 06:05.42 | KeyboardWarrior | There's a debian_version or whatever file in your root directory, [bm]. |
| 06:05.49 | enouf | !ado |
| 06:05.50 | dpkg | Find old Debian releases at http://archive.debian.org/ |
| 06:06.22 | KeyboardWarrior | Okay, the installer just stopped doing anything. |
| 06:06.26 | KeyboardWarrior | checks other terminal |
| 06:07.02 | KeyboardWarrior | Lots of read errors related to /dev/hdc, hmm. |
| 06:07.32 | KeyboardWarrior | Apparently, the CD-ROM drive is crap. |
| 06:08.13 | enouf | my ps/2 ports also flake once in a while - regularly - bad/older worn hardware :-O |
| 06:08.48 | enouf | but if yours always stalls at the same place/time ... likely a BIOS setting or kernel issue |
| 06:09.00 | KeyboardWarrior | Hmm. Well, I apparently have more than that to worry about. I'm getting lots of IDE-related errors (failed opcode, et cetera) related to my CD-ROM drive. |
| 06:09.23 | enouf | and how are you "The second is a USB keyboard" |
| 06:09.39 | KeyboardWarrior | I wonder if this is even worth it... will a 233 MHz PII machine with 192 MB of RAM make a suitable Samba file server? |
| 06:09.40 | enouf | when "The keyboard is PS/2 (the BIOS doesn't support USB)" |
| 06:10.08 | enouf | could work out |
| 06:10.11 | KeyboardWarrior | enouf: The BIOS doesn't support USB, but once I am booted into the kernel/installer. |
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| 06:10.23 | KeyboardWarrior | Then it will work. |
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| 06:10.58 | KeyboardWarrior | I have to use the PS/2 keyboard to select the installer from the bootmenu on the Debian install CD, then the USB keyboard in the install because the PS/2 dies. |
| 06:11.00 | enouf | KeyboardWarrior: if you have USB ports - the system supports it ;-) ... oh, you mean you cannot entire SETUP for the CMOS using the USB one? |
| 06:11.31 | \3tatuk | I used to get sound in Quake3 on Etch but now I get no sound in Quake3(even as root) on lenny.. anyone have an idea? (it says "/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy", but `lsof -n|grep dsp` return nothing...) |
| 06:11.44 | enouf | yeah, that sounds so much like just the typical non-working USB keys for GRUB and BIOS. etc |
| 06:11.44 | KeyboardWarrior | Well, I'm not sure. I have USB ports, but the keyboard doesn't work anywhere like BIOS setup, boot loaders, probably anything real mode. |
| 06:11.49 | icedwater | Sigh, the wireless networks around my estate are still not showing up. Not even mine, and I'm 1m away from my router :( |
| 06:12.00 | jerc | fuck every boy |
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| 06:12.03 | enouf | Legacy USB support == Enable in BIOS |
| 06:12.08 | KeyboardWarrior | Hmm. |
| 06:12.48 | icedwater | Also, I'd like to thank whoever told dpkg about the Ctrl-Alt-numpad+/- thing for changing resolutions, it's pretty cool. |
| 06:13.16 | icedwater | Only, I don't get why I still can't display more than 1024x768. Is it that my system is detecting only a generic VGA card? |
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| 06:14.34 | icedwater | Brb... |
| 06:14.39 | KeyboardWarrior | This IBM Aptiva has no option that I see for. |
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| 06:15.19 | KeyboardWarrior | I see "Universal Serial Bus port" option under I/O in the BIOS, but that's enabled. |
| 06:15.24 | KeyboardWarrior | Nothing else. |
| 06:15.44 | enouf | KeyboardWarrior: hrm ... well the ps/2 controller shouldn't die either :-) |
| 06:15.49 | KeyboardWarrior | No. |
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| 06:15.53 | enouf | KeyboardWarrior: maybe it's not worth it |
| 06:16.04 | KeyboardWarrior | I'm going to try a graphical install, the keyboard works there. |
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| 06:16.31 | KeyboardWarrior | It's strange that the PS/2 keyboard doesn't die booting the graphical install when it dies in the regular install. |
| 06:16.58 | enouf | check alt-f4 for messages |
| 06:17.10 | KeyboardWarrior | Yeah, I will. |
| 06:17.18 | enouf | you still haven't installed though? is this an Installer only issue? |
| 06:17.24 | enouf | which one? |
| 06:17.28 | KeyboardWarrior | Not installed yet. |
| 06:17.57 | KeyboardWarrior | It is the legacy "Installer" option that I prefer that kills the keyboard. The graphical installer works with the PS/2 keyboard. |
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| 06:18.36 | KeyboardWarrior | I don't have too much hope because there were a lot of CD-ROM/IDE errors when I tried the legacy install with the USB keyboard. |
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| 06:19.12 | enouf | !check iso imagew |
| 06:19.16 | enouf | !check iso image |
| 06:19.16 | dpkg | To verify you have a valid and official Debian CD image, see http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify . To test an ISO image was burned correctly, compare the output of md5sum filename.iso; dd if=/dev/cdrom | head -c `stat --format=%s filename.iso` | md5sum |
| 06:19.30 | KeyboardWarrior | Hmm, the problem isn't as consistent as I thought. Now the PS/2 keyboard is not working in the graphical installer. :o |
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| 06:19.44 | enouf | use "check integrity" option too |
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| 06:20.07 | icedwater | Does anyone know what I can do to ensure my wireless card is working correctly? |
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| 06:20.14 | enouf | replace cables, and get a new PSU :-p |
| 06:20.26 | icedwater | lspci -v shows it has been recognised and has loaded the ath5k module.. |
| 06:20.37 | icedwater | But it's still unable to scan for networks. |
| 06:20.59 | KeyboardWarrior | I'm not throwing any money at this machine. I can get an old P4 or Celeron for almost nothing. |
| 06:21.10 | enouf | icedwater: for your earlier VGA issue ; grep drv /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 06:21.48 | enouf | and also glxinfo - see if direct rendering is being utilized - libgl* pkgs and mesautils pkg |
| 06:21.52 | icedwater | Hmm, enouf, it seems to have loaded only the vesa drivers. |
| 06:22.03 | icedwater | vesa_drv.so, to be precise. |
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| 06:22.18 | enouf | righto |
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| 06:22.53 | enouf | so, X -configure and add correct driver to xorg,conf |
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| 06:22.57 | enouf | !drxx |
| 06:22.57 | dpkg | To reconfigure your X server, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root; this will overwrite your xorg.conf but your old file will be backed up. If you're not using Xorg (sarge or earlier) ask me about <sarge->etch>. From lenny onwards, most of these settings are configured by your desktop environment or with <xrandr>. You can still make a minimalist /etc/X11/xorg.conf, however, using the output of X -configure as a template. |
| 06:23.46 | enouf | icedwater: are the relevant xserver-xorg-video-* pkgs installed? |
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| 06:24.04 | icedwater | xserver-xorg-video-nv, as far as I can tell, is the only relevant one, and it's installed. |
| 06:24.29 | enouf | erm. libgl1-mesa and -dri etc .. |
| 06:24.46 | icedwater | Hold on, I only just installed mesa-utils. |
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| 06:26.59 | KeyboardWarrior | Hmm, the graphical installer doesn't let me go to the other consoles, i.e. alt-f4 does nothing. |
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| 06:27.08 | KeyboardWarrior | No getty? |
| 06:27.27 | enouf | ugh |
| 06:27.43 | KeyboardWarrior | It stopped at "Detect and mount CD-ROM" |
| 06:27.45 | enouf | stop with the GUI mode ffs |
| 06:28.00 | KeyboardWarrior | I was only using it because the other one wasn't working. |
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| 06:28.32 | KeyboardWarrior | I prefer the other install method. |
| 06:28.49 | enouf | also - look into flashing your BIOS and replacing the CMOS battery |
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| 06:31.27 | KeyboardWarrior | Okay, cdrom-detect isn't working. |
| 06:31.47 | icedwater | enouf: I don't seem to have direct rendering on. |
| 06:31.47 | KeyboardWarrior | The CD-ROM is timing out. |
| 06:31.56 | KeyboardWarrior | I think I'll try another CD drive. |
| 06:32.42 | dennister | i'm a debian newb here, on console, have a stupid question: stuck a usb thumb drive in, where in the filesystem would it mount, or do I have to mount it manually? |
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| 06:32.49 | \3tatuk | Why would I be getting "/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy", when `lsof -n|grep dsp` returns nothing...? |
| 06:34.17 | icedwater | dennister: You might have to mount it manually. |
| 06:34.42 | dennister | icedwater: k, filesystem is auto? |
| 06:34.46 | icedwater | Check your /etc/fstab, I don't think there will be any sort of mount instructions for USB drives |
| 06:34.49 | enouf | icedwater: i wouldn't think you would using vesa_drv ... but ok - load up nv in xorg.conf |
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| 06:35.01 | icedwater | enouf: Heh, true. |
| 06:35.02 | dennister | k...used ot using a gui i'm afraid |
| 06:35.19 | enouf | !list alsa users |
| 06:35.19 | dpkg | To see what processes are using (and perhaps blocking) your sound device: ps `lsof +D /dev -F rt | awk '/^p/ {pid=$1} /^t/ {type=$1} /^r0x74..$/ && type == "tCHR" {print pid} /^r0xe..$/ && type == "tCHR" {print pid}' | cut -c 2- | uniq`. Alternatively, fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp /dev/mixer |
| 06:35.34 | icedwater | But I'm not sure if I have the libgl1-mesa-* installed. Should I be using the -dri or the -glx version? |
| 06:35.43 | enouf | and it's usually Flash hogging it |
| 06:36.02 | enouf | icedwater: one pulls in the other - install -dri |
| 06:36.19 | icedwater | Hm, OK. |
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| 06:36.49 | enouf | icedwater: dpkg -l libgl1* | grep ^,i |
| 06:36.57 | icedwater | Strange, it's already there. So I guess it's an xorg.conf issue? |
| 06:37.05 | enouf | also - icedwater lspci -nn | grep VGA |
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| 06:38.04 | enouf | dennister: usbmount pkg perhaps |
| 06:38.15 | \3tatuk | thanks enouf |
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| 06:38.58 | enouf | dennister: could write a udev rule too i suppose - see pmount as well - and /msg dpkg automount ... though they may all be GUI related |
| 06:39.13 | enouf | np |
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| 06:40.19 | dennister | no joy, i'm afraid, tried mounting, keep being told i have to specify filesystem type (i've tried auto and udf) |
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| 06:41.05 | dennister | it's not in fstab, 'usbmount pkg' doesn't work...I'm not online so can't install anything, ence using the usb) |
| 06:41.22 | \3TATUK | enouf: didn't help :| |
| 06:41.26 | \3TATUK | same error |
| 06:42.02 | icedwater | enouf: Thanks for your help :) But still, I went through dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, choosing most of the defaults, but somehow my xorg.conf is an empty file now. |
| 06:42.29 | dennister | heck, it would be great if I could get an ip address from my router, then i wouldn't needn't need the sneakernet |
| 06:42.40 | enouf | \3TATUK: lsof | egrep 'artsd|pulse|esd|flash' ... when are you seeing ""/dev/dsp: Device or resource busy"" |
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| 06:43.29 | enouf | icedwater: it mostly was, and will be, since Lenny - man xorg.conf -- look for backups in the /etc/X11/ dir too |
| 06:43.37 | icedwater | Ah, right. OK. |
| 06:43.44 | enouf | also - icedwater lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 06:43.54 | KeyboardWarrior | Hmm, maybe I should try the Debian install from Windows option (goodbye-microsoft.org). I have a working Windows 2000 install. |
| 06:43.57 | icedwater | I was just wondering since it was nonempty earlier. |
| 06:44.03 | KeyboardWarrior | Or network boot the install via PXE. |
| 06:44.13 | icedwater | KeyboardWarrior: keyboard issues getting you down? |
| 06:44.19 | enouf | X -configure will generate a minimal one |
| 06:44.21 | icedwater | enouf: I've tried that, what am I supposed to see? |
| 06:44.32 | enouf | lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 06:44.44 | enouf | your friggin video card |
| 06:44.47 | dennister | can you believe this? blaster funders are insisting we use ms word...have crossover here, but it's bottle is win2000, and my copy of word is 2003 |
| 06:44.48 | KeyboardWarrior | icedwater: Keyboard issues fixed by using two keyboards (PS/2 in boot menu; USB in installer). Now CD-ROM drive trouble is causing problems. |
| 06:44.57 | KeyboardWarrior | It can't mount the CD-ROM drive. :\ |
| 06:45.13 | icedwater | enouf: Tried the lspci, I mean. Regarding the xorg.conf, I will have to run X -configure only when X isn't already running :P |
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| 06:45.24 | icedwater | And yes, I do see my friggin' video card. |
| 06:45.45 | enouf | icedwater: i'm asking you to show US |
| 06:45.53 | KeyboardWarrior | dennister: Blaster? |
| 06:46.05 | icedwater | Gah, silly me. |
| 06:46.12 | dennister | sorry, *blasted |
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| 06:46.34 | KeyboardWarrior | PDPC? |
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| 06:47.14 | \3TATUK | enouf: strange i'm getting a lot of results for libesd but ps -A|grep esd returns nothing http://paste.pocoo.org/show/130243/ |
| 06:47.19 | icedwater | 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation Device [10de:086f] (rev b1) |
| 06:47.32 | enouf | http://pastebin.ca/raw/1504057 |
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| 06:47.40 | TiMiDo | can someone please help me with this error http://pastebin.ca/1504007 |
| 06:47.41 | enouf | is just easier for me |
| 06:47.51 | TiMiDo | A non-dpkg owned copy of the libc6-i686 package was found. |
| 06:47.51 | TiMiDo | It is not safe to upgrade the C library in this situation; |
| 06:47.51 | TiMiDo | please remove that copy of the C library and try again. |
| 06:47.51 | TiMiDo | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.9-21_i386.deb (--unpack): |
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| 06:47.52 | dpkg | timido: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
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| 06:47.59 | TiMiDo | I'm getting that error |
| 06:48.02 | enouf | use it as a template - i can't handhold everyone through this |
| 06:48.27 | \3TATUK | enouf: maybe i should remove libesd0 ? |
| 06:48.36 | enouf | shrugs |
| 06:48.46 | \3TATUK | i'll try |
| 06:48.59 | icedwater | TiMiDo: You got dumped out of the channel. |
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| 06:49.07 | icedwater | Try putting it in a pastebin, and putting the link here? |
| 06:49.10 | TiMiDo | right |
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| 06:49.20 | TiMiDo | can someone help me out with that error? |
| 06:49.33 | KeyboardWarrior | Okay, time to start swapping hardware... the worst thing about IBM Aptiva was figuring out how to get the case cover off. |
| 06:49.49 | enouf | \3TATUK: i asked you what you are doing to see that error |
| 06:50.07 | \3TATUK | oh i missed that |
| 06:50.13 | enouf | aptivas were easy cases |
| 06:50.24 | \3TATUK | quake3 is reporting it in it's sound initialization log |
| 06:50.39 | icedwater | enouf: Thanks, I think I will borrow the xorg.conf you gave in the pastebin. |
| 06:50.39 | KeyboardWarrior | enouf: This tower isn't too bad, but I had a P133 Aptiva that was horrible to get apart. |
| 06:50.47 | enouf | gah .. games and their /dev/dsp ... heh |
| 06:50.56 | \3TATUK | lol |
| 06:51.05 | \3TATUK | it used to work on etch but not now on lenny :( |
| 06:51.08 | enouf | icedwater: edit to suit YOUR setup ;-) |
| 06:51.18 | icedwater | Of course, of course. |
| 06:51.20 | KeyboardWarrior | Haha, it has a cardboard/paper fan shroud. |
| 06:51.38 | enouf | real quality |
| 06:51.42 | icedwater | Just the line with Modes and nv :) |
| 06:51.48 | KeyboardWarrior | Other than that, I like IBM, though. |
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| 06:52.27 | KeyboardWarrior | The paper shroud may have been an afterthought to deal with complaints about overheating due to ineffectiveness of the case fan. |
| 06:52.47 | enouf | \3TATUK: is alsa-oss and aoss installed? |
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| 06:52.58 | KeyboardWarrior | There's no fan on the PII 233 MHz CPU heat sink. |
| 06:53.11 | enouf | indeed - it's a passive massive |
| 06:53.19 | \3TATUK | enouf: yes and the funny thing is if i run with aoss i get sound (but not playable.. ie, super lag) |
| 06:53.29 | enouf | same here for my 350MHz |
| 06:53.30 | \3TATUK | but maybe that can help you figure what's actually wrong? |
| 06:53.51 | enouf | \3TATUK: /me shrugs |
| 06:54.08 | dennister | perhaps a better solution would be for someone to help me get online? its eth2, interfaces is correct, hosts is correct, but this thing refuses to get an ip address at boot |
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| 06:54.28 | enouf | !70 |
| 06:54.28 | dpkg | As of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename Ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. See also <forcedeth mac>. As of version 0.124-1, the file is called /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules . |
| 06:54.31 | KeyboardWarrior | dennister: Does it work when you run dhclient? |
| 06:54.35 | enouf | !interfaces |
| 06:54.35 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client>, read "man resolv.conf" for DNS. Also ask me about <static route>. |
| 06:55.01 | enouf | dennister: wait, using DHCP or static? |
| 06:55.34 | enouf | dennister: and does route and arp output show good/correct info? |
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| 06:56.03 | dennister | static from router...how as I said, resolv.conf and interfaces are correct...what's the dhclient command? |
| 06:56.07 | enouf | and how and does it _eventually_ get it's IP? is that WiFi? |
| 06:56.46 | dennister | not wifi, wired, same cable and same router as worked yesterday |
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| 06:56.48 | enouf | you need some dnsresolver line or something in interfaces, IIRC |
| 06:57.09 | DarkJustice | adb: you still around? |
| 06:57.53 | dennister | dns resolver? have nameserver and network info in resolv.conf |
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| 06:58.02 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:58.24 | KeyboardWarrior | !seen adb |
| 06:58.24 | dpkg | adb is currently on #debian. Has said a total of 108 messages. Is idling for 55m 44s, last said: 'so use other install method that's all'. |
| 06:58.28 | enouf | that's old though - so see /etc/dhclient.conf or something with a 3 in it |
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| 06:59.13 | DarkJustice | ok guess not, maybe someone else can help though.. my system seems to keep totally freezing/hanging.. adb suggested I run memtest and there were 0 errors, it happens even if I'm selecting text in a document to paste |
| 06:59.32 | enouf | dennister: i'm wasn't talking about resolv.conf -- althgouht is resolvconf pkg installed too? |
| 06:59.46 | \3TATUK | sweet found my solution |
| 06:59.48 | \3TATUK | http://nullkey.ath.cx/~stuff/et-sdl-sound/ |
| 07:00.21 | dennister | enouf: yes, and interfaces has a ip line, netmask, network, broadcast, and gateway lines |
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| 07:01.33 | enouf | dennister: there's one missing - only needed when using static, IIRC, i could be wrong |
| 07:01.56 | enouf | \3TATUK: heh - alsa hacks ... nice |
| 07:02.25 | enouf | !listvals sdl |
| 07:02.27 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'sdl' by value (15 of 17): acronym ;; esd-sdl ;; libsdl1.2debian ;; linux kernel bug database ;; ltp ;; opengl tutorial ;; prboom ;; rfc1747 ;; sdl ;; sdl-esd ;; sdls ;; smc ;; sopwith ;; starfighter ;; zsnes sound. |
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| 07:02.35 | dennister | k well if i have to, i'll make it dhcp, then move it to static |
| 07:02.38 | enouf | there ya go |
| 07:02.53 | DarkJustice | and.. other than the system freezing is there any way to get a usb headphones/mic to work properly? I get the headphones fine, no mic |
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| 07:03.35 | allu2 | maybe i should get back to stable, testing have some problems :P |
| 07:03.42 | TiMiDo | how come I'm getting this error /var/lib/dpkg/info/locales.config: line 480: 8423 Done echo "$SUPPORTED_LOCALES" |
| 07:03.42 | TiMiDo | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:03.42 | TiMiDo | /usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory /usr/bin/locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory |
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| 07:05.24 | KeyboardWarrior | Found a 500 MHz Compaq Deskpro in the garage! :D |
| 07:05.29 | KeyboardWarrior | puts the Aptiva aside |
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| 07:05.56 | dennister | i can't even ping the router :( and yet the router isn't the problem 'cuz all the other stuff runs from it fine |
| 07:06.03 | dennister | including this one |
| 07:06.30 | fogus | is there a list of software somewhere that I can go through when I have done a netinstall for me to be able to run tftpd? |
| 07:07.07 | KeyboardWarrior | fogus: aptitude? |
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| 07:07.22 | fogus | KeyboardWarrior: aptitude came installed actually |
| 07:07.23 | KeyboardWarrior | apt-get install tftpd should satisfy any requisite dependencies. |
| 07:07.41 | fogus | KeyboardWarrior: well, I can't figure out how to start it then |
| 07:07.41 | dennister | what could be causing the debian network setup to not be able to ping the router |
| 07:08.02 | KeyboardWarrior | fogus: Oh, you have tftpd installed but not starting from rc? |
| 07:08.13 | fogus | KeyboardWarrior: what is rc? |
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| 07:08.22 | KeyboardWarrior | dennister: ICMP ping not allowed by router? |
| 07:08.34 | KeyboardWarrior | dennister: Try ignoring and see if it works. |
| 07:08.48 | dennister | no, other servers can ping the router, just not the debian one |
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| 07:08.55 | KeyboardWarrior | KeyboardWarrior: You are trying to install tftpd or have you already installed it? |
| 07:08.57 | dennister | try ignoring? |
| 07:09.07 | KeyboardWarrior | dennister: I'm not sure. |
| 07:09.22 | KeyboardWarrior | err, fogus. |
| 07:09.45 | powertool08 | Can anyone help me install ATI drivers for my radeon 9600XT? The ones in the repo's don't work and I can't get the ones from ATI's site to work either. |
| 07:09.50 | fogus | KeyboardWarrior: yes? |
| 07:10.08 | enouf | dennister: ls /sys/class/net |
| 07:10.38 | enouf | dennister: does ifconfig show it has an ad.dr.es.ss ? |
| 07:10.45 | KeyboardWarrior | fogus: apt-get install tftpd should automatically installed tftpd and any dependencies and probably setup tftpd to start automatically at boot. |
| 07:12.08 | fogus | KeyboardWarrior: well, how do I start it manually? |
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| 07:12.32 | dennister | sys/class/net has the0, eth1, the2, lo |
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| 07:12.45 | dennister | ifconfig does not show an ip addy for eth2 |
| 07:12.49 | enouf | openbsd-inetd? xinetd? see vsftpd anyway |
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| 07:13.08 | ganesh | the creative webcam of live Im pro is not supported in debian what to do? |
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| 07:13.22 | enouf | dennister: well - that's a start - it kind of needs one ;-) |
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| 07:13.46 | dennister | yeah, no kidding...why can't it get one? |
| 07:13.48 | enouf | !webcam |
| 07:13.48 | dpkg | For webcam device support in Debian, ask me about <gspca>, <uvcvideo>, <ov51x-jpeg>, <ov511>, <quickcam>, <m560x-driver>. For device usage suggestions, see http://www.aboutdebian.com/webcam.htm or "mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l:width=352:height=288:outfmt=yv12:device=/dev/video0". http://wiki.debian.org/Webcam |
| 07:14.15 | dennister | it certainly did have one yesterday, but every time there's a reboot, it's like hell to get one again |
| 07:14.35 | enouf | dennister: is avahi* running? and ... what about your MAC and what's in /msg dpkg 70 |
| 07:14.38 | KeyboardWarrior | fogus: Run tftpd with proper arguments from the command line? |
| 07:14.45 | KeyboardWarrior | which tftpd to find it |
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| 07:15.20 | fogus | KeyboardWarrior: that's just the thing: I get no results from "which tftpd" |
| 07:15.59 | fogus | KeyboardWarrior: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/130248/ |
| 07:16.10 | dennister | i don't believe avahi's running, /msg dpkg 70 gives me nada...Mac shows up |
| 07:16.49 | KeyboardWarrior | fogus: find / -name tftpd |
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| 07:17.11 | KeyboardWarrior | Ah, I see. |
| 07:17.19 | fogus | KeyboardWarrior: what does taking out the dot do? |
| 07:17.38 | KeyboardWarrior | Nothing. |
| 07:17.43 | KeyboardWarrior | . is your current directory |
| 07:17.50 | icedwater | enouf: Now I get an error, it says no device detected. :P |
| 07:18.25 | g00se | sudo which tftpd |
| 07:18.31 | fogus | KeyboardWarrior: my boss always uses the dot |
| 07:18.52 | KeyboardWarrior | fogus: Try running /usr/sbin/in.tftpd |
| 07:19.17 | KeyboardWarrior | That's a script that starts tftpd |
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| 07:20.50 | fogus | KeyboardWarrior: ok. how do I tell if it ran? |
| 07:21.16 | KeyboardWarrior | fogus: Look is ps or top. |
| 07:21.26 | KeyboardWarrior | fogus: ps aux | grep -i tftpd |
| 07:21.38 | fogus | KeyboardWarrior: what does the -I do? |
| 07:21.44 | KeyboardWarrior | Case insensitive |
| 07:21.48 | KeyboardWarrior | Probably not necessary. |
| 07:21.56 | enouf | see 5.3.5. The network interface with the static IP et al; http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch05.en.html#_the_basic_network_configuration_with_ifupdown |
| 07:22.11 | fogus | KeyboardWarrior: I already ran it before I asked you. there is nothing listenign on port 69 either. |
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| 07:22.34 | megatog615 | how do i *really* blacklist intel_agp? |
| 07:22.40 | KeyboardWarrior | fogus: Apparently, tftpd isn't installed properly, then. :S |
| 07:22.42 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:22.49 | fogus | sighs |
| 07:22.59 | megatog615 | even if 'blacklist intel_agp' is in blacklist.conf, it still loads |
| 07:23.01 | enouf | but with no IP assigned - there's other issues |
| 07:23.46 | fogus | keyboard: thanks for the help! |
| 07:24.10 | dennister | nameservers is there, tho, does it need to be dns-nameservers instead? |
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| 07:24.23 | yangp | I am wondering how to resolve this "sysvconfig" dependancy - http://pastebin.com/m30122948 |
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| 07:25.10 | fogus | what is the best iso image to use to install a fully functional version of debian? I want a single image (not 4 or something crazy) |
| 07:25.23 | fogus | the netinstaller is clearly broken |
| 07:25.29 | yangp | fogus: the lenny CD-version |
| 07:25.30 | enouf | icedwater: check what Xorg.0.log says about it |
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| 07:26.09 | yangp | fogus: you just need to install the first CD |
| 07:27.02 | fogus | yangp: which one of these: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.2/amd64/iso-cd/ ? |
| 07:27.17 | fogus | yangp: debian-502-amd64-CD-1.iso ? |
| 07:27.20 | enouf | megatog615: it's needed for your Chipset? agpgart 30624 1 intel_agp |
| 07:27.24 | yangp | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.2/amd64/iso-cd/debian-502-amd64-CD-1.iso |
| 07:27.33 | megatog615 | enouf: no |
| 07:27.38 | megatog615 | i just rmmod -f'ed it |
| 07:27.53 | fogus | yangp: ok, and after I install that one, then I am good to go? the others are just extra stuff? |
| 07:27.54 | yangp | fogus: you could also try the -KDE one or -XFCE if you would like to have that installed |
| 07:27.55 | megatog615 | and i was able to initialize nvidia NvAGP |
| 07:28.05 | megatog615 | that is my goal here |
| 07:28.09 | \amethyst | yangp: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=537465 |
| 07:28.13 | yangp | fogus: the others are packages, but you can get them off the internet |
| 07:28.19 | megatog615 | but without having to rmmod it after bootup and re-modprobe nvidia |
| 07:28.24 | fogus | yangp: this is just for a file server |
| 07:28.38 | \amethyst | yangp: for the moment, your only real choice is to remove sysvconfig |
| 07:28.40 | enouf | megatog615: nah |
| 07:28.41 | megatog615 | blacklist does not seem to do what it is advertised to do |
| 07:28.55 | yangp | \amethyst: thanks for the hint |
| 07:29.02 | enouf | megatog615: rmmod is out - modprobe -r is in .. an NvAGP sucks ass |
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| 07:29.15 | megatog615 | enouf: it will let me suspend |
| 07:29.18 | fogus | yangp: so I could use http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.2/amd64/iso-cd/debian-502-amd64-kde-CD-1.iso ? I think I could just use putty and forget the gui |
| 07:29.20 | megatog615 | which is the other goal |
| 07:29.24 | \amethyst | yangp: since sysvinit-utils is required (and is depended on by initscripts, which is also required) |
| 07:29.41 | megatog615 | enouf: either way i need to use NvAGP |
| 07:29.44 | enouf | megatog615: maybe you should just start rm'ing modules right out of /lib/modules/ ,,, heh |
| 07:29.53 | megatog615 | i dont care if it 'sucks ass' |
| 07:30.03 | enouf | suspending sucks ass too |
| 07:30.06 | megatog615 | enouf: i thought of that |
| 07:30.19 | megatog615 | but i'd rather not go rm'ing willy nilly |
| 07:30.42 | megatog615 | enouf: that is your opinion |
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| 07:31.15 | megatog615 | i dont care what you think about suspending, just tell me what you think is wrong with blacklist |
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| 07:31.27 | enouf | megatog615: /msg dpkg blacklist-initramfs and learn how modules.deps works |
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| 07:31.38 | KeyboardWarrior | Okay, that was weird... |
| 07:31.57 | megatog615 | enouf: why would intel_agp be loaded in the initramfs |
| 07:32.32 | enouf | and check /etc/modules and mv any /etc/{modules,modprobe}.conf files out of the way |
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| 07:33.49 | enouf | agpgart needs it ... which is needed for my AGP Bridge - ie. Chipset |
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| 07:34.15 | enouf | 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03) Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel |
| 07:34.33 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:35.38 | megatog615 | agpgart does not 'need it' |
| 07:35.42 | ksnp | scripts in my cron.d and cron.hourly are not running ! |
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| 07:35.50 | megatog615 | agpgart is loaded |
| 07:35.59 | ksnp | usr/sbin/cron is running though |
| 07:36.00 | megatog615 | nvidia checks if agpgart is using a agp driver |
| 07:36.05 | ksnp | anyone suggest how to fix ? |
| 07:36.07 | megatog615 | if its not it uses its own driver |
| 07:36.09 | enouf | depends: agpgart |
| 07:36.26 | megatog615 | yeah, intel_agp needs agpgart |
| 07:36.29 | megatog615 | not the other way around |
| 07:36.44 | ksnp | in the log i see error : bad command; while reading the file |
| 07:36.46 | enouf | good god |
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| 07:37.14 | enouf | you're messing with nvidia kernel bullshit and wondering about agpgart and intel_agp? |
| 07:37.31 | megatog615 | enouf: nevermind, i dont need your opinions |
| 07:37.37 | megatog615 | all i wanted was to know how to do it |
| 07:37.41 | megatog615 | i dont care what you think |
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| 07:37.53 | megatog615 | i already figured it out anyway |
| 07:37.56 | megatog615 | goodbye |
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| 07:38.33 | enouf | have a nice day |
| 07:38.41 | enouf | !customer |
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| 07:38.41 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 07:39.26 | enouf | and intel AGP shouldn't be getting in the way anyway - as i said the Chipset needs it you weenie, not the Video card |
| 07:39.38 | simonrvn | what an attitude. could've said thank you instead of dissing you. |
| 07:39.45 | simonrvn | he left... |
| 07:40.00 | enouf | i know - i'm being an ass anyways, it's ok |
| 07:40.25 | enouf | is tired is all - i'll take a break i think |
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| 07:56.54 | DarkJustice | anyone have any suggestions on 1. how to get a usb mic/headphones to work (phones work mic doesn't) or 2. how to figure out why my system keeps locking up and totally freezing randomly? |
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| 08:10.04 | icedwater | enouf: Thanks for all the help. I was on the phone earlier, so I couldn't check my stuff. |
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| 08:13.17 | icedwater | OK, guys, this is weird. /var/log/Xorg.0.log says my Primary Device is 02.00 and on the next line it says no device detected. |
| 08:15.23 | ksnp | how to run a script each time i reboot ? |
| 08:15.35 | DarkJustice | anyone have any suggestions on 1. how to get a usb mic/headphones to work (phones work mic doesn't) or 2. how to figure out why my system keeps locking up and totally freezing randomly? |
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| 08:15.50 | icedwater | Any suggestions, guys? |
| 08:16.01 | icedwater | I'm going to try rebooting after I redid *another* X -configure. |
| 08:16.05 | icedwater | Brb. |
| 08:16.56 | acemi | ksnp: see (crontab and @reboot) or (/etc/init.d/ and update-rc.d) |
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| 08:21.34 | ksnp | acemi : cron is running |
| 08:21.42 | ksnp | i can see logs in /var/log/syslog |
| 08:22.06 | ksnp | but i see bad command; while reading /etc/cron.d/test when i put a reference to file in this file |
| 08:22.16 | ksnp | and bad username; if i put a command itself in this file |
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| 08:22.59 | acemi | ksnp: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/372 |
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| 08:24.45 | phorce1 | DarkJustice: First solve the random lockups. I'd suggest running memtest overnight first. If the lockups are truly random (ie. not always when you are doind some specific thing) then it's probably hardware problems |
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| 08:25.07 | DarkJustice | phorce1: yeah I ran memtest, no erros |
| 08:25.11 | DarkJustice | errors^ |
| 08:25.37 | ksnp | acemi : sorry i should have explained better with full conext, i am trying to simply run a job using cron |
| 08:25.44 | ksnp | (not just after reboot, please ignore that) |
| 08:26.06 | DarkJustice | well it happens sorta specific, but seems to be random lately.. was just when I was on a java enabled website, now it's java, flash, using Amarok, or copying/pasting in text editor too |
| 08:26.19 | ksnp | and i put in * * * * * echo "1234" > /root/test.log in a file called /etc/cron.d/test with chomd a+x |
| 08:26.28 | ksnp | i see error saying bad username; in the syslog |
| 08:27.29 | DarkJustice | I tried changing the vid driver to the actual nvidia driver but that jacked up xorg, and I have no clue how to manually install it, followed 2 diff. tutorials and got jack |
| 08:27.34 | acemi | youhave to give the username too, see /etc/crontab file |
| 08:28.22 | acemi | ex: * * * * * root echo "1234" > /root/test.log |
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| 08:29.11 | icedwater | Well, good news is my X is up and running again. Bad news is it doesn't seem to think my nVidia is capable of more than 1024x768. |
| 08:29.14 | phorce1 | DarkJustice: that's a broad spectrum. I'd still suspect hardware, and probably RAM. If you have more than one stick installed pull one and see if it keeps happening, if it does then swapo them and test again |
| 08:29.36 | icedwater | I tried replacing the drivers in xorg.conf, but to no avail. |
| 08:30.16 | DarkJustice | phorce1: so it's probably RAM rather than the vid driver? |
| 08:30.23 | lnostdal | hi .. could anyone check what about:plugins say about "video/mpeg" ..? (i had to compile totem-mozilla from source to add a "video/mpeg" entry proper here) |
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| 08:30.43 | ksnp | i keep getting following syslog with cron bad username; while reading /etc/cron.d |
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| 08:30.54 | ksnp | i have a legiimate /etc/cron.d/test |
| 08:30.54 | anewbie | hello there guys |
| 08:31.03 | anewbie | i have problem with mine wifi adapter it is |
| 08:31.04 | anewbie | Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8185 IEEE 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Controller |
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| 08:31.20 | anewbie | i want to put it in master mode toumake wifi router from my box |
| 08:31.27 | anewbie | but i have problem with that |
| 08:31.45 | anewbie | Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) : |
| 08:31.45 | anewbie | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:31.55 | anewbie | i think there is aproblem with the driver |
| 08:32.11 | anewbie | in that moment i am with rtl8180 |
| 08:32.19 | anewbie | can some one give me some guide lines |
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| 08:32.27 | icedwater | anewbie: I'm assuming you're doing it as root? |
| 08:32.35 | anewbie | yes yes |
| 08:32.36 | anewbie | sure |
| 08:32.41 | anewbie | i have 2.6.29 kernel |
| 08:33.44 | lvh | anewbie: are you sure that that card *supports* master mode? |
| 08:33.51 | lvh | both the card and the driver need to. |
| 08:33.55 | lvh | a lot of cards don't. |
| 08:34.07 | anewbie | lvh, no i am not sure |
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| 08:34.25 | anewbie | but where can i check it |
| 08:34.31 | lvh | anewbie: you probably want to spend time googling for "rtl8180 master mode linux" :-) |
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| 08:35.16 | anewbie | infact lspci -v gives me RTL8185 |
| 08:35.24 | anewbie | but the card work with 8180 |
| 08:35.36 | phorce1 | DarkJustice: With hard lockups that are random always start by testing RAM. Easiest test there is (swap it out and run) |
| 08:35.49 | DustyDingo | first check if te driver supports it at least |
| 08:36.26 | phorce1 | DarkJustice: did you custome compile the video driver or do anything odd that would cause you to think it ois the problem? |
| 08:36.48 | DarkJustice | phorce1: no it was a suggestion from someone else but they aren't really all that familiar with linux either |
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| 08:37.10 | DarkJustice | phorce1: and it just started happening a few weeks ago, was running fine for like 5 months |
| 08:37.52 | phorce1 | DarkJustice: RAM |
| 08:38.21 | DarkJustice | phorce1: lol so memtest is pretty much pointless then |
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| 08:39.01 | phorce1 | has a PICKY motherboard. Had 4G installed. Pulled one of the 2G sticks and used it another machine for a week. Put it back and this machine won't boot with it installed. |
| 08:39.17 | DarkJustice | wow |
| 08:40.08 | phorce1 | The stick still works in any other machine. A surge or static jolt changed the latency on the ram stick or something |
| 08:40.28 | DarkJustice | well dang, ok I'll shut down and swap it out, thanks for the tip |
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| 08:40.42 | phorce1 | DarkJustice: no, memtest finds weak areas a lot of times |
| 08:40.46 | sauvin | I'm having all kinds of troubles with USB drives on my older computer running debian etch, troubles I'm not having at ALL on the newer one running debian lenny. Any ideas? |
| 08:41.11 | DarkJustice | ok well I'll go try the swapping the sticks :) |
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| 08:41.41 | phorce1 | DarkJustice: but X with Flash/java/C++/video/audio/kitchen sink sometimes hits even deeper |
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| 08:43.22 | anewbie | guys with little googling :D i found that |
| 08:43.23 | anewbie | rtl8180-sa2400 project |
| 08:43.37 | anewbie | but i cant understand what about this sa2400 |
| 08:43.49 | anewbie | it is some kind of chipset instruction |
| 08:44.02 | anewbie | or it's a software add to the driver |
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| 08:46.01 | allu2 | anyone wouldn't have cop of /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_alsa.so and could give it to me? :P |
| 08:46.06 | allu2 | *copy |
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| 09:12.44 | JJOliver | Hi Peeps i'm trying (again) to get my domain server up and running. |
| 09:13.05 | Liquid- | good luck? |
| 09:13.14 | cromag | have fun |
| 09:13.21 | JJOliver | ldapsearch -x -b dc=newhope,dc=local gives me some output. |
| 09:13.32 | JJOliver | Result = :32 no such object |
| 09:13.37 | JJOliver | so something must be wrong?! |
| 09:14.45 | JJOliver | As when I ran dpkg-reconfigure slapd I put in the domain name as newhope.local |
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| 09:16.25 | JJOliver | http://pastebin.ca/1504200 |
| 09:16.46 | DarkJustice | phorce1: thanks for the tip but no way to know now lol.. none of the other sticks I put in work at all, won't boot, the only one that works is the 1GB stick in there now |
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| 09:19.16 | JJOliver | Any suggestions as to how I messed it up already? |
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| 09:20.55 | phorce1 | DarkJustice: ouch |
| 09:21.25 | DarkJustice | yup lol |
| 09:21.54 | DarkJustice | and I can't afford to buy new sticks, I'm so broke my apt. got broken into.. they left ME a new tv |
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| 09:23.37 | phorce1 | I've been living on Ramen noodles for a while now |
| 09:23.44 | CcSsNET | me 2 |
| 09:23.53 | CcSsNET | lol @ tv |
| 09:24.14 | DarkJustice | yeah I think I own stock in the ramen noodle company |
| 09:24.18 | DarkJustice | or I should at this point |
| 09:24.27 | Liquid- | ramen is good |
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| 09:24.43 | Liquid- | buy some oil, and fry it up, gives you a little change from the norm ;) |
| 09:24.44 | DarkJustice | ramen is ok the first 45,000 bowls of it |
| 09:24.54 | phorce1 | Liquid-: after a coule of months, not so good |
| 09:24.59 | Liquid- | i still like it ;) |
| 09:25.10 | Liquid- | at one point i was living on it for 9 months straight |
| 09:25.16 | Liquid- | now i get some variety, but |
| 09:25.21 | Liquid- | still lots of ramen and rie |
| 09:25.22 | Liquid- | rice* |
| 09:25.37 | DarkJustice | i did switch from chicken flavor to beef at one point |
| 09:25.41 | DarkJustice | that was new and exciting |
| 09:25.48 | Liquid- | lol, you only get one flavour? |
| 09:25.50 | mmu_man | hmm do we have a howto setup a vhost quickly (bind+apache) around ? |
| 09:25.57 | phorce1 | is going to grab a nap. 0425 here and I turn the phones back on at 0700 |
| 09:26.03 | mmu_man | the bind docs seems a bit huge to eat in a day |
| 09:26.10 | phorce1 | the beef is too salty when serevd with Debian |
| 09:28.11 | DarkJustice | ya want salty, try the oriental flavor lol |
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| 09:30.07 | Liquid- | oriental is super salty :S |
| 09:30.24 | DarkJustice | yup |
| 09:30.30 | DarkJustice | but a change in variety lol |
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| 09:30.45 | icedwater | Try it without the soup, or use just a small fraction of the powder. |
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| 09:30.55 | icedwater | Just boil it in regular water. |
| 09:31.08 | DarkJustice | yeah that's how I do it, just add a partial packet if any |
| 09:31.14 | DarkJustice | after it's done |
| 09:31.18 | CcSsNET | MSG soup |
| 09:31.19 | CcSsNET | yay |
| 09:31.35 | icedwater | Then use something like tomato ketchup or barbecue sauce with a bit of ground black pepper for flavouring. |
| 09:31.35 | CcSsNET | ur better off without any of that salt packet :P |
| 09:31.43 | icedwater | Or soy sauce, if you can find that. |
| 09:31.54 | JJOliver | hrm |
| 09:32.01 | icedwater | Toss the noodles with the sauce and you're done. |
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| 09:32.20 | icedwater | (Oh, and you could break an egg into the soup too, for a bit of colour and flavour.) |
| 09:32.28 | icedwater | apt-get install nom |
| 09:32.32 | DarkJustice | being old and on Disability.. in a word.... SUX |
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| 09:41.46 | rocketmaster | hello. i own a p4 HT with 3Ghz and i like to throttle the cpu if its idle, like on my laptop. on my thinkpad i have a pentium M and e.g. kpowermanager let me choose dynamic cpu frequency scaling. can i do this on my local workstation with a generic old p4 ht too? what packages are needed? i already installed kpowermanager and cpufreuqd and utils, but can not asign dynamic mode because it's 'not loaded, supported' or whatever. |
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| 09:42.33 | JJOliver | Anyone know why my domain isn't working? I've run slapd reconfigure, domain name =kiwoko.local, afterwards run ldapsearch -x -b dc=kiwoko dc=local result=32 no such object |
| 09:42.36 | kripz | Why is my JFS raid5 always entering read only mode? Im getting errors in dmesg but i dont know what is causing it. Ive run samsung diagnostic tools on all the harddrives and smarmontools, they all pass. Tested ram with memtest, passed. Heres log: http://pastebin.com/m2f62fbf0 |
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| 09:43.16 | paissad-hp | guys, i have a real problem to configure Xorg ! |
| 09:43.34 | paissad-hp | i did Xorg -configure |
| 09:43.49 | paissad-hp | X -config /root/xorg.new |
| 09:44.12 | paissad-hp | X -reconfigure locales |
| 09:44.48 | paissad-hp | but when i start the system, the keymap is en, not fr |
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| 09:45.17 | paissad-hp | i'am obliged to type setxkbmap fr after each startup |
| 09:45.51 | paissad-hp | when i run X -configure, after have removed /tmp/.X0-lock |
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| 09:46.10 | paissad-hp | i have a fatal errror saying that X seems to be still running :-( |
| 09:46.20 | paissad-hp | dunno what to do now :s |
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| 09:50.48 | adam-_- | i installed debian inside a vmware machine on my mac with the defaults for hd and ram, im now out of diskspace. ive upped the harddrive allowance in vmware settings from 8-15gb but how can i repartition/reconfigure debian to use the extra space without wiping everything ive already set up? |
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| 09:54.07 | paissad-hp | i've checked the locales, they are all fr_**** |
| 09:54.35 | paissad-hp | but the matter remains after a startup, the keyboard layout is still en_**** |
| 09:54.52 | paissad-hp | i see no keyboard layout into /etc/*/xorg.conf |
| 09:55.08 | mmu_man | french ought to still rule the world, but eh |
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| 10:04.05 | stevie[xxx] | hello |
| 10:04.50 | stevie[xxx] | my rsyslog timestamps are wrong (7 h in the past), systemtime und timezone ist correct, any idea? |
| 10:05.15 | scream_ | maybe they are in UTC |
| 10:05.17 | tarzeau | anyone has backports of e17 to lenny? |
| 10:06.16 | stevie[xxx] | http://paste.debian.net/42468 |
| 10:06.29 | stevie[xxx] | scream_ how can i check this? |
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| 10:08.45 | scream_ | stevie[xxx], what's your UTC offset? |
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| 10:09.39 | JPT | i need to be noticed when my vps is shutting down via e-mail... is there a quick and easy solution for this? :) |
| 10:10.03 | stevie[xxx] | +2 i think |
| 10:10.08 | stevie[xxx] | europe |
| 10:10.39 | stevie[xxx] | yeah |
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| 10:11.22 | scream_ | stevie[xxx], then it's strange that the offset in logs is -7 |
| 10:12.02 | stevie[xxx] | yes |
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| 10:14.38 | npasque | hi to all...i have a question...i've got a dell insprion 5150 pc, and debian crash some times, i cannot understand the reason...where can i find some informations? |
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| 10:16.21 | the-dude | npasque: define crash? |
| 10:17.08 | npasque | freeze the system.... |
| 10:17.39 | npasque | the-dude: like a screenshot on the screen....and i can do nothing with keyboard |
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| 10:18.46 | scream_ | npasque, does it crash with no X loaded? |
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| 10:19.54 | stevie[xxx] | scream_ any idea? |
| 10:20.34 | the-dude | npasque: does it happen when being used? |
| 10:20.48 | the-dude | possible thermal problem? check /var/log/syslog |
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| 10:21.54 | scream_ | i think it's got something to do about accelerated X drivers :) |
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| 10:24.11 | linduxed | if powertop tells me that i should enable USB autosuspend, will that have any implications? |
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| 10:25.40 | edoreld | I'm getting this error on apt-get update, W: GPG error: http://ftp.hosteurope.de etch Release: Die folgenden Signaturen konnten nicht überprüft werden, weil ihr öffentlicher Schlüssel nicht verfügbar ist: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B how can I (Something like the signatures can't be authenticated I guess), how can I add the public key? |
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| 10:26.55 | teonanacatl | try aptitude search keyring |
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| 10:27.20 | edoreld | teonanacatl: thanke, |
| 10:27.22 | teonanacatl | maybe there is a keyring for hosteurope |
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| 10:28.20 | christiann | hi can help me with apache? |
| 10:28.51 | edoreld | teonanacatl: I think i solved it with > pt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 9AA38DCD55BE302B < |
| 10:29.09 | edoreld | teonanacatl: although I now realize the weirdness of it using ubuntu keyserver being debian...but oh well it worked :D |
| 10:29.59 | teonanacatl | that's the main thing, edoreld ;-) |
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| 10:30.51 | edoreld | teonanacatl: well, in a perfect world, it shouldn't even fail ^^ |
| 10:31.45 | teonanacatl | it's just for your own safety ;-) |
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| 10:31.57 | teonanacatl | and.. it doesn't fail. it's just a warning |
| 10:32.49 | teonanacatl | it fails getting a signature, yes, but it updates anyway |
| 10:32.56 | edoreld | ah well, my german is not so good so I didn't know it was a warning |
| 10:33.03 | edoreld | also, it says error...O_o |
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| 10:33.12 | edoreld | so that kinda confused me ^^ |
| 10:33.32 | teonanacatl | so why is it german when it's not your native language? |
| 10:33.53 | edoreld | is a German company to which I have access through SSH |
| 10:33.59 | teonanacatl | i see |
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| 10:34.44 | teonanacatl | i guess you can change the locale for your account's environment |
| 10:34.56 | JPT | export LANG=C ? |
| 10:35.08 | edoreld | teonanacatl: yes, I thought of it, but I don't really need to have it in English |
| 10:35.15 | efaistos | is there a way to know when a debian system has been installed ? |
| 10:35.37 | edoreld | Usually I install external packages that are in English so... |
| 10:35.51 | edoreld | (luckily!) |
| 10:36.23 | teonanacatl | the packages themself ARE not IN any language, are they? |
| 10:36.56 | edoreld | well, the error messages they give when I install them are in English :) |
| 10:37.06 | edoreld | and I only need to know the errors they give, heh |
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| 10:41.57 | teonanacatl | so they seem to be english in fact, just don't using the locale-stuff |
| 10:41.59 | teonanacatl | whatever ;-) |
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| 10:42.46 | edoreld | teonanacatl: conclusion: they are in English, that's all I care about \(^_^)/ |
| 10:43.01 | teonanacatl | :-) |
| 10:43.40 | g00se | edoreld: Was it you who was doing something with fit-PC? |
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| 10:43.51 | edoreld | g00se: nein |
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| 10:44.09 | edoreld | thanks |
| 10:44.13 | edoreld | I'll check it out |
| 10:44.16 | edoreld | oops |
| 10:44.18 | edoreld | wrong irc.. |
| 10:44.20 | g00se | edoreld: Memory playing tricks. You were doing something interesting though.. |
| 10:44.46 | edoreld | g00se.: yesssss.....i wass admiring my precioussss...my precioussss. |
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| 10:44.54 | edoreld | my precious server :) |
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| 10:46.14 | g00se | edoreld: We're talking about 4 days to almost a week ago poss. Don't worry ;-) |
| 10:46.41 | k0opa | booted my computer and got 640x480 resolution... I have nvidia card and I had drivers working etc. |
| 10:46.49 | k0opa | may it be a kernel update or something? |
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| 10:47.55 | edoreld | g00se: voice recognition, last wednesday ;) |
| 10:47.58 | teonanacatl | k0opa: did you install the newest nvidia-driver? |
| 10:48.09 | k0opa | I think I have installed |
| 10:48.12 | teonanacatl | loaded the module, modified Xorg.conf, etc? |
| 10:48.18 | k0opa | but on this boot I haven't done anything |
| 10:48.20 | k0opa | ye ye |
| 10:48.25 | k0opa | I did what was on debian wiki |
| 10:48.57 | k0opa | how I can know if its now loaded? |
| 10:48.59 | k0opa | the module |
| 10:49.23 | ustunozgur | what is the best way to define two mice in xorg so that one is lefty and the other is a righty mouse? |
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| 10:49.42 | teonanacatl | lsmod | grep nvidia |
| 10:50.20 | k0opa | I have nvidia on the list O_o |
| 10:50.29 | k0opa | "nvidia 7086148 24" |
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| 10:50.55 | teonanacatl | usually the nvidia-installer modifies your Xorg.conf if you confirm that |
| 10:51.03 | k0opa | ye |
| 10:51.05 | teonanacatl | did you? if not: did you modify Xorg.conf yourself? |
| 10:51.18 | k0opa | I am not sure |
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| 10:51.31 | teonanacatl | u should be |
| 10:51.42 | k0opa | does the nvidia installer do automatic .backup files? |
| 10:51.47 | k0opa | if not I have manually done something |
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| 10:52.01 | teonanacatl | i guess so |
| 10:52.05 | k0opa | hmmr |
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| 10:52.35 | teonanacatl | cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep nvidia |
| 10:52.53 | k0opa | driver "nvidia" |
| 10:52.57 | k0opa | with tabs |
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| 10:53.23 | teonanacatl | or just try "glxinfo" with running x-server |
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| 10:53.45 | k0opa | I dont have glxinfo |
| 10:53.51 | k0opa | and can't find with apt |
| 10:54.20 | k0opa | I am pretty sure that i use the un-free drivers |
| 10:54.56 | k0opa | trying nvidia-xconfig |
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| 10:55.14 | JJOliver | Does anyone know where I could get a default ldap.conf file from. Realised that mine is empty for some reason.\ |
| 10:55.53 | k0opa | ooh great out of range... |
| 10:55.54 | petemc | nothing in /usr/share/doc/openldap.. |
| 10:55.56 | JJOliver | Well not empty, but mostly empty. |
| 10:56.01 | teonanacatl | nice |
| 10:56.13 | k0opa | restoring backup... |
| 10:56.34 | g00se | edoreld: That's it! How did you get on? |
| 10:56.45 | teonanacatl | did you try to change the resolution in your gnome-control-stuff or whichever desktop-env you are using? |
| 10:57.16 | k0opa | on kde3 there is only the 650x430 and something 300x |
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| 10:57.25 | edoreld | g00se: it's not in the island of the "I'm sorry but I don't have enough time for you" projects, I'm afraid :/ |
| 10:57.27 | JJOliver | petemc: nope, nothing there. |
| 10:57.27 | k0opa | not the resolution 1240x1082 what I looking for |
| 10:57.29 | edoreld | I'ts in* |
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| 10:58.18 | teonanacatl | what kind of display do you have? kind of weird resolutions you are talking about |
| 10:58.32 | k0opa | I am not usre if thats the exactly size |
| 10:58.40 | g00se | edoreld: I tried sphinx4. It was meant to recognise the word 'hello' but didn't work :-( |
| 10:58.49 | k0opa | I have standart LG L1918s 19" flat screen |
| 10:59.01 | teonanacatl | k0opa: i would download the latest nvidia-driver, start it and let it configure the Xorg.conf |
| 10:59.10 | k0opa | hmmr |
| 10:59.15 | k0opa | apt-get or from nvidia? |
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| 10:59.37 | teonanacatl | from nvidia |
| 10:59.41 | g00se | k0opa: did you look in ~/.xsession-errors ? |
| 10:59.47 | k0opa | nope |
| 10:59.49 | k0opa | looking now |
| 11:00.11 | llinear | hi im having troubles finding mod_tidy for apache in any package |
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| 11:00.45 | k0opa | g00se: found it |
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| 11:01.13 | k0opa | some nepomuk stuff |
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| 11:02.37 | kay2 | hi |
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| 11:05.01 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'lomount' returned no results. |
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| 11:06.07 | g00se | llinear: maybe coz it's not part of official Apache stuff? http://mod-tidy.sourceforge.net/ |
| 11:06.30 | k0opa | great... |
| 11:06.36 | k0opa | I hate to surf on nvidia site with 600 reso |
| 11:06.57 | JJOliver | Is there somewhere specific I should look for finding support with setting up a LDAP on debian using openLDAP? |
| 11:07.02 | g00se | k0opa: What did you find? |
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| 11:07.14 | k0opa | some errors about nepomuk etc |
| 11:07.16 | k0opa | kde stuff |
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| 11:07.24 | k0opa | and some bad window errors |
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| 11:07.28 | k0opa | nothing that looks like x |
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| 11:07.59 | g00se | JJOliver: http://wiki.debian.org/LDAP |
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| 11:08.32 | g00se | k0opa: it's *all* x ;-) |
| 11:08.37 | JJOliver | g00se: thanks, checking now |
| 11:08.38 | k0opa | O_o |
| 11:08.45 | k0opa | why it looks like kde stuff themn |
| 11:08.46 | k0opa | *n |
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| 11:09.25 | g00se | k0opa: Look in dmesg too |
| 11:09.31 | k0opa | wheres that |
| 11:09.35 | k0opa | ah |
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| 11:10.08 | k0opa | module licens taints kernel ! :D |
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| 11:10.22 | k0opa | and then load message |
| 11:10.29 | k0opa | so the nvidia driver is up and running |
| 11:11.13 | JJOliver | how do i delete a directory? |
| 11:11.20 | k0opa | rmdir |
| 11:11.24 | JJOliver | thanks |
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| 11:11.40 | k0opa | but if there is stuff inside you need to add flags to it I think |
| 11:11.56 | k0opa | or what the -x things are called? |
| 11:12.00 | JJOliver | yeah, how do I remove the dir that has contents |
| 11:12.06 | k0opa | mc! |
| 11:12.17 | petemc | rm -r dir/ |
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| 11:12.20 | Ezep | rm -r dir/ |
| 11:12.27 | Ezep | d'oh! |
| 11:12.27 | JJOliver | thanks |
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| 11:13.00 | k0opa | I don't like nvidia |
| 11:13.40 | edoreld | envidia is bad |
| 11:13.48 | edoreld | (You can only get this if you understand spanish) |
| 11:13.59 | k0opa | but is ati's card usable? |
| 11:14.10 | Ezep | yeap |
| 11:14.21 | k0opa | only cards that really work well is integrated intel stuff |
| 11:14.38 | Ezep | Intel <3 |
| 11:15.04 | k0opa | ye :P |
| 11:15.04 | k0opa | it won't run games :( |
| 11:15.16 | k0opa | I think I stop dual booting and get another computer for games |
| 11:15.20 | k0opa | would be much easier |
| 11:15.31 | Ezep | Sure, buy me one too |
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| 11:15.52 | k0opa | :( |
| 11:16.10 | k0opa | I don't have money to one computer, how you think I buy 2 gaming computers? |
| 11:16.32 | edoreld | k0opa: win the lottery |
| 11:16.41 | k0opa | ooh thats so simple and easy |
| 11:16.42 | k0opa | :D |
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| 11:17.06 | edoreld | yes, there's a method that can't fail |
| 11:17.22 | edoreld | but every posible ticket with every possible number combination |
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| 11:17.27 | edoreld | believe me, you'll win |
| 11:17.32 | k0opa | only problem is that 3 million other ppl also tries to win |
| 11:17.51 | edoreld | yes but they won't buy every single ticket with every possible number combination |
| 11:18.03 | Cheef-Daniel | has someone a tip how to configure monit to deliver alert mails to an external mailserver that requires smtp-auth? |
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| 11:18.07 | ethanol | edoreld: I think said method is more expensive than the gains from it. |
| 11:18.20 | edoreld | ethanol: he should reach that conclusion himself O_o |
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| 11:18.35 | ethanol | oh sorry I spoiled it |
| 11:18.35 | ethanol | )x |
| 11:18.51 | Cheef-Daniel | mean not deliver but send to... |
| 11:18.55 | kripz | Why is my JFS raid5 always entering read only mode? Im getting errors in dmesg but i dont know what is causing it. Ive run samsung diagnostic tools on all the harddrives and smarmontools, they all pass. Tested ram with memtest, passed. Heres log: http://pastebin.com/m2f62fbf0 |
| 11:19.06 | k0opa | edoreld: yes but change to buy that winning ticket is very small |
| 11:19.26 | ethanol | chance |
| 11:19.36 | edoreld | k0opa: not if you buy every possible combination, since at least one of the tickets will be the winning one |
| 11:19.37 | k0opa | ye ye |
| 11:20.08 | k0opa | edoreld: but it would cost much more than the jackpot! |
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| 11:20.29 | edoreld | k0opa: good, now we are doing some progress. |
| 11:20.35 | edoreld | k0opa: now how did you reach that conclussion? |
| 11:20.45 | petemc | Cheef-Daniel: doesnt monit use local sendmail? |
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| 11:21.01 | edoreld | k0opa: why is that more expensive? |
| 11:21.05 | edoreld | k0opa: have you calculated it? |
| 11:21.15 | k0opa | lets calculate then |
| 11:21.22 | k0opa | how many rows is on lottery? |
| 11:21.36 | edoreld | how would I know? I don't play it |
| 11:21.43 | k0opa | lets say 10 |
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| 11:21.52 | edoreld | ok |
| 11:21.53 | k0opa | and numbers from 1- 36 |
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| 11:21.59 | k0opa | and I don |
| 11:22.04 | edoreld | of course, let's take completely random numbers and make a conclussion |
| 11:22.06 | k0opa | 't know how to calculate more |
| 11:22.13 | k0opa | okey lets see wikipedia... |
| 11:22.14 | petemc | this isnt very debian related |
| 11:22.14 | edoreld | you're on the path to wisdom my friend :) |
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| 11:22.36 | edoreld | k0opa is using a debian calculator, so it's somehow related ;) |
| 11:22.39 | Cheef-Daniel | petemc: it seems to deliver it through my postfix, but posfix uses virtual mailboxex (mysql). So if mysql is down or postfix I dont get alert mail. |
| 11:22.41 | edoreld | (Tell them so k0opa) |
| 11:22.44 | k0opa | ye! |
| 11:22.53 | k0opa | and I am using debian to talk about it :) |
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| 11:23.00 | k0opa | without x because its broken |
| 11:23.01 | petemc | tenuous |
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| 11:23.31 | k0opa | wikipedia won't show the chance of winning :( |
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| 11:23.48 | petemc | uk lottery is 1 - 49 and us 14 million to 1 |
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| 11:23.55 | petemc | s/us/is/ |
| 11:24.05 | Cheef-Daniel | petemc: I can set a external mailserver in monitrc, but every external mailserver I know requires smpt-auth |
| 11:24.15 | edoreld | petemc: thanks, let's take those numbers |
| 11:24.23 | edoreld | k0opa: please proceed with the calculations |
| 11:24.30 | TiMiDo | A non-dpkg owned copy of the libc6-i686 package was found. |
| 11:24.30 | TiMiDo | It is not safe to upgrade the C library in this situation; |
| 11:24.30 | TiMiDo | please remove that copy of the C library and try again. |
| 11:24.30 | TiMiDo | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.9-21_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 11:24.30 | TiMiDo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:24.31 | edoreld | we need to know the price of a single ticket as well |
| 11:24.31 | dpkg | timido: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
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| 11:24.35 | TiMiDo | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:24.37 | TiMiDo | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 11:24.41 | TiMiDo | can someone help me with this error please |
| 11:24.52 | k0opa | edoreld: okey, you play, I can pay you 100 tickets if you win |
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| 11:25.10 | k0opa | and I can't calculate |
| 11:25.18 | edoreld | I can, but my brain refuses to do so |
| 11:25.19 | k0opa | I don't know how to do it |
| 11:25.32 | k0opa | ye my brain refuses also! |
| 11:25.40 | k0opa | its not easy way to get quick money |
| 11:25.45 | k0opa | its easy way to lose money |
| 11:26.11 | edoreld | yes |
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| 11:26.15 | edoreld | anyone can see that |
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| 11:26.22 | Cheef-Daniel | some of the error is: postfix/qmgr[13941]: fatal: mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-transport.cf(0,lock|fold_fix): table lookup problem |
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| 11:27.00 | k0opa | who was the ppl who tried to make me play lottery? |
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| 11:27.32 | Ezep | k0opa: scroll up |
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| 11:27.50 | k0opa | edoreld: YOU! |
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| 11:28.10 | k0opa | if you can see its not clever, why you tried to make me do it? |
| 11:28.10 | edoreld | why would I want to make you play lottery? |
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| 11:28.21 | k0opa | ezep wanted computer |
| 11:28.26 | k0opa | with my money :( |
| 11:28.59 | Ezep | Yeap, everybody wants a free computer |
| 11:29.02 | edoreld | k0opa: you can also steal, it's a fast and easy way to get money |
| 11:29.12 | k0opa | hmmmr |
| 11:29.15 | k0opa | have you tried it? |
| 11:29.24 | k0opa | if you fail, it sucks |
| 11:29.55 | edoreld | k0opa: if it doesn't fail, you can become rich very quickly |
| 11:29.56 | abrotman | wrong channel ? |
| 11:30.01 | edoreld | k0opa: the important thing is to know when to stop |
| 11:30.03 | abrotman | !ot |
| 11:30.04 | dpkg | Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e. Debian support); imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
| 11:30.10 | edoreld | and abrotman is right, let's not troll |
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| 11:30.18 | k0opa | ookey |
| 11:30.40 | edoreld | instead, let's troll #debian-offtopic :) |
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| 11:30.46 | k0opa | ye :p |
| 11:31.27 | mnemonic | hi * |
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| 11:32.18 | Ezep | abrotman: be cool, peace and love x) |
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| 11:34.16 | IceReaper | Hey, can some1 please help me with my problem? i want the user www-data to store subversion access. i already gave him an new home-dir but that didnt work. has any1 maybe an idea how to get him to create his .subversion directory under his homedir and saving authentication information`? |
| 11:34.58 | zamuro | !anyone |
| 11:34.58 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 11:38.53 | stevie[xxx] | is rsyslog the default logger in lenny? |
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| 11:42.34 | k0opa | how to kill x11 server.. |
| 11:42.51 | abrotman | how did you start it? |
| 11:42.56 | k0opa | its running |
| 11:43.01 | k0opa | but with wrong resolution |
| 11:43.08 | k0opa | what ever removed the lock file |
| 11:43.31 | Ezep | ctrl+alt+backspace |
| 11:43.31 | k0opa | it restarts |
| 11:43.33 | k0opa | wont stop |
| 11:43.39 | abrotman | how did you start it? |
| 11:43.53 | k0opa | it starts when computer boots... |
| 11:44.00 | abrotman | k0opa: which distro is this? |
| 11:44.05 | k0opa | debian |
| 11:44.17 | Ezep | k0opa: X is a daemon, so.. |
| 11:44.20 | abrotman | k0opa: so shut down your kdm/gdm/xdm whatever you used to start it |
| 11:44.32 | k0opa | ok |
| 11:44.36 | k0opa | thats not problem anymore |
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| 11:44.54 | k0opa | now its that I can't reinstall/configure driver because its already loaded |
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| 11:45.09 | bAndie9100 | hi all |
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| 11:45.22 | EagleScreen | k0opa: go to tty terminal and run # /etc/init.d/kdm stop |
| 11:45.30 | Ezep | k0opa: rmmod "nameofmodule" |
| 11:45.36 | k0opa | ookkey |
| 11:45.42 | EagleScreen | k0opa: or if you use gdm: # /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
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| 11:45.56 | k0opa | ok |
| 11:46.02 | bAndie9100 | how to run X under an ssh connection? |
| 11:46.09 | k0opa | nope |
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| 11:46.11 | k0opa | local machine |
| 11:46.11 | darkhamm | hi people, i've this http://pastebin.com/m7d6e3ea8 with ffmpeg, can you help me? |
| 11:46.16 | k0opa | or whatoahjsdpoasjc |
| 11:46.20 | k0opa | ait wasn't question |
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| 11:47.12 | bAndie9100 | user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. |
| 11:47.30 | dondelelcaro | bAndie9100: you don't, generally speaking. |
| 11:47.48 | dondelelcaro | bAndie9100: X is restricted to users who are logged into a console (or sometimes only root) |
| 11:47.50 | Ezep | bAndie9100: you could ONLY exec X apps, not even X |
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| 11:48.27 | bAndie9100 | i want to start an x session on the remote pc |
| 11:48.55 | Ezep | bAndie9100: google vnc |
| 11:49.20 | bAndie9100 | not equivalent |
| 11:50.22 | bAndie9100 | to start an x session on the remote pc and let run there too. |
| 11:50.23 | Ezep | Sorry? |
| 11:50.58 | k0opa | 3d app is running fine with current x/nvidia drivers |
| 11:50.59 | bAndie9100 | (and type x2x later to bind the screens) |
| 11:51.04 | k0opa | only problem is resolution |
| 11:51.10 | k0opa | anyone knows anything about it? |
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| 11:51.35 | Ezep | bAndie9100: Oh, remote X login? use gdm/xdm/*dm |
| 11:51.44 | Ezep | With network support |
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| 11:52.17 | bAndie9100 | Ezep, no, simple `ssh remotepc xinit` |
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| 11:52.40 | Ezep | No ssh, stop with that idea |
| 11:52.57 | bAndie9100 | so how to grant `console` privileges to ssh connected user? |
| 11:53.04 | bAndie9100 | like in /etc/login.defs |
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| 11:53.18 | k0opa | I give up this driver stuff... |
| 11:53.43 | _Wesley | is there a debian download manager? or something that is able to download multiple files (without having to use screen & wget) |
| 11:54.09 | azeem | _Wesley: you mean whether a download manager is packaged for Debian? |
| 11:54.22 | k0opa | gwget |
| 11:54.27 | k0opa | or something |
| 11:54.28 | k0opa | kget? |
| 11:54.36 | x1250 | what is the best text to speech software in debian? I mean best like in natural voice... |
| 11:54.36 | _Wesley | doesn't have to do resume and all these fancy things, just multiple downloads |
| 11:54.39 | k0opa | or cli? |
| 11:54.40 | bAndie9100 | its sure an distro depending setting, because of i used this method under uhu |
| 11:54.54 | bAndie9100 | x1250, espeak |
| 11:54.55 | k0opa | kget on kde gwget on gnome wget on cli |
| 11:54.57 | _Wesley | yes, cli - should have mentioned that first sorry |
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| 11:55.30 | bAndie9100 | does wget support multi thread download? |
| 11:55.40 | x1250 | bAndie9100, mmm, I was hoping there was a better one :) |
| 11:55.49 | Ezep | _Wesley: multiple tabs in w3m or wget "file1" "file2" |
| 11:56.23 | _Wesley | Hmm yeh, I have that right now.. but downloads file on one per one base |
| 11:56.30 | _Wesley | but ill google around a bit more, thanks |
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| 11:58.11 | Esto | can anyone give manual for configuring internet sharing through wifi on debian? |
| 11:58.26 | darkhamm | hi people, i've this http://pastebin.com/m7d6e3ea8 with ffmpeg, can you help me? |
| 11:59.07 | Esto | on http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse i see mainly strange gui utils |
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| 11:59.42 | aaron_ | can soemone help me why i'm getting this error while apt-get update W: not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock E: unable to write to /var/cache/apt E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. |
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| 12:01.19 | pozic | Which package is responsible for automatically mounting a usbkey when entered? |
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| 12:01.35 | EagleScreen | gnome-media? |
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| 12:01.38 | pozic | Mounting to /media/disk, /media/disk-1 and so on. |
| 12:01.48 | zxd__ | is it possible to switch to single usermode and have network and ssh working |
| 12:03.09 | pozic | zxd__: are you talking about sshd working or ssh? In case of ssh, I would say it is possible. |
| 12:03.18 | zxd__ | sshd |
| 12:03.34 | pozic | zxd__: then, AFAIK, not. |
| 12:04.04 | pozic | zxd__: but to know for sure, you could like, just try it :) |
| 12:04.40 | pozic | zxd__: actually, probably you can run sshd then as root. |
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| 12:05.48 | JJOliver | hey peeps, i've just installed phpldapadmin and then tried to goto https://my.ip.ad.dd.re.ss/phhldapadmin/ |
| 12:06.15 | JJOliver | but it's saying my.ip.ad.dr.es.s refused the connection . . . |
| 12:06.34 | the-dude | JJOliver: does it listen of 443? |
| 12:07.05 | JJOliver | the-dude: huh? it has apache installed and is already running a http server |
| 12:07.17 | JJOliver | I assume you meant to so does it listen TO 443? |
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| 12:07.25 | JJOliver | and I think the answer should be yes, but how do I check? |
| 12:07.30 | the-dude | JJOliver: yeah |
| 12:07.48 | JJOliver | as it is a https rather than http |
| 12:07.55 | the-dude | and did you check if it is enabled in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled |
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| 12:08.15 | Ezep | pozic: I think HAL |
| 12:09.36 | JJOliver | the-dude: how do I enable an additional site? |
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| 12:11.27 | enouf | pozic: it's udev+hal+dbus (and other things if weirdo FSTypes, such that FUSE modules are also needed) i'd say |
| 12:11.42 | the-dude | JJOliver: ln -s ln -s /etc/phpldapadmin/apache /etc/apache2/sites-available/. |
| 12:11.53 | the-dude | just once ln -s |
| 12:11.59 | the-dude | ln -s /etc/phpldapadmin/apache /etc/apache2/sites-available/. |
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| 12:12.57 | the-dude | sorry ln -s /etc/phpldapadmin/apache /etc/apache2/sites-available/phpldapadmin.conf would be better |
| 12:13.11 | the-dude | then enable it with a2ensite phpldapadmin.conf |
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| 12:14.45 | JJOliver | the-dude: "No site found matching phpldapadmin.conf |
| 12:14.47 | JJOliver | " |
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| 12:23.10 | Devjos | Hello All |
| 12:23.41 | borman | Hi, how could I know what resolution is used via command? |
| 12:24.26 | jelly | borman: in X? xdpyinfo or xrandr show that information, among other stuff |
| 12:24.32 | Devjos | i think via is driver |
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| 12:25.26 | Devjos | borman: please see your xorg.conf |
| 12:25.27 | abrotman | Devjos: 'via' is a word also |
| 12:25.27 | Devjos | file |
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| 12:25.41 | abrotman | Devjos: lenny doesn't specify a resolutoin there by default |
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| 12:26.15 | borman | yes via is a word is not the driver |
| 12:26.26 | Devjos | ok borman |
| 12:27.13 | borman | xorg.conf is configured automatically there are no resolution values there |
| 12:27.33 | Titan8990 | xorg.conf is no longer required |
| 12:27.46 | abrotman | borman: jelly gave you two answers |
| 12:27.49 | Titan8990 | or atleast, shouldn't be for non-proprietary drivers |
| 12:28.42 | borman | nice |
| 12:28.56 | borman | thanks, jelly |
| 12:28.59 | pozic | enouf: I installed those, but it doesn't automount. I can manually mount it, however. |
| 12:29.12 | JJOliver | Oh the muter fecker. . . . openLDAP and Samba are really a bit shite. |
| 12:29.14 | abrotman | pozic: /msg dpkg automount |
| 12:29.29 | JJOliver | I've spent a month trying to get them to work and i'm about to give up and use the 2 copies of windows server 2008. |
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| 12:29.58 | Ezep | Samba is not deprecated yet? |
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| 12:30.18 | Titan8990 | Ezep, why would it be? |
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| 12:30.44 | Ezep | There is a ssl variation, I don't remember the name |
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| 12:31.57 | Titan8990 | SMB isn't meant to be used over the internet |
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| 12:32.07 | petemc | its not routable, for one thing |
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| 12:32.29 | JJOliver | I love the idea of open source material being out there. But if you have to be a designer to understand how to make it work, seems a little bit 'eccentric' at best. |
| 12:32.52 | enouf | pozic: write a udev rule that calls a script |
| 12:32.56 | petemc | a designer? itym engineer |
| 12:33.01 | enouf | !udev rules |
| 12:33.01 | dpkg | file:///usr/share/doc/udev/writing_udev_rules/index.html, or or read it online at http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html |
| 12:33.04 | abrotman | JJOliver: you're trying to make samba/ldap act as an Active Directory server ? |
| 12:33.10 | Titan8990 | JJOliver, thats a problem of poor documentation than anything else |
| 12:33.15 | enouf | pozic: note RUN+== |
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| 12:33.30 | Titan8990 | JJOliver, and yes the openldap documentation is terrible |
| 12:33.41 | JJOliver | abrotman: I'm trying to get a domain server, using active directory to work across multiple OS and technologies |
| 12:33.42 | abrotman | thinks the samba docs are worse |
| 12:33.44 | JJOliver | mostly just old ones. |
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| 12:34.02 | enouf | Ezep: there's cifs |
| 12:34.05 | Titan8990 | JJOliver, why are you trying to implement windows methodology in a linux env? |
| 12:34.07 | JJOliver | Well for one, nothing has worked first time. |
| 12:34.15 | abrotman | JJOliver: using which veresion of samba ? |
| 12:34.32 | jelly | JJOliver: welcome to the wonderful free software world! |
| 12:34.42 | JJOliver | Titan8990: otherway round, I have 80 windows terminals that i'm setting up a debian domain |
| 12:34.48 | Titan8990 | JJOliver, oh, you just want your linux samba server to authenticate to a windows active directory? |
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| 12:34.51 | JJOliver | abrotman: the latest one (i have a localised mirror) |
| 12:35.02 | JJOliver | Titan8990: nah, it'll be the PDC |
| 12:35.04 | abrotman | JJOliver: latest samba or latest debian ? |
| 12:35.09 | JJOliver | abrotman: both |
| 12:35.22 | Devjos | i have problem with nsswitch.conf file |
| 12:35.24 | JJOliver | Titan8990: so maybe you were right, i'm dislexic so I may have flipped your sentance. |
| 12:35.32 | Devjos | which is for ldap client |
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| 12:35.48 | Titan8990 | JJOliver, look in to winbind |
| 12:35.59 | Titan8990 | JJOliver, there shouldn't be a need to run an openldap server |
| 12:36.06 | JJOliver | googles |
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| 12:36.22 | Devjos | i this file i hav an entry like hosts: dns ldap |
| 12:36.32 | paxcoder | why are there three versions of GNU octave in the repo? |
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| 12:36.55 | Devjos | how do i knw if dns service is on or off |
| 12:36.59 | Devjos | ? |
| 12:37.05 | JJOliver | Titan8990: I still need a domain controller and that means I'll need an AD right? |
| 12:37.16 | abrotman | Devjos: man nsswitch.conf |
| 12:37.29 | abrotman | JJOliver: i don't think samba3 can be the PDC for AD ? |
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| 12:37.52 | abrotman | isn't that one of the coming features of samba4? |
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| 12:37.57 | tempuser | i recently upgraded from etch-lenny and have discovered that my ldap auth has mysteriously stopped working. i have read a few reports that libpam-ldap and libnss-ldap is now built against gnutls instead of openssl and is causing some installations to 'break'. is there any validity to those reports or does the old configs just need to be tweaked to reflect the change? |
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| 12:38.48 | the-dude | JJOliver: does it work yet? |
| 12:39.02 | JJOliver | abrotman: I though that OpenLDAP handled the AD / LDAP and acted as PDC, but Samba servered up the info to windows clients? |
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| 12:39.26 | JJOliver | the-dude: no. I've given up on this, as it seems the same thing that stops SWAT working . . . and there was no solution to that problem either. |
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| 12:39.49 | the-dude | use 2 run samba2 and samba3 with ldap backend as a PDC |
| 12:40.47 | JJOliver | Part of my grump is I'm missing a friend, he went to the spanish Debian conference and is doing some workshops there. So he's not online anymore . . . for a WHOLE week. |
| 12:41.02 | abrotman | JJOliver: the stuff i'm reading says it can act as a PDC, but not an AD PDC |
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| 12:41.21 | g00se | thinks JJOliver might need Samba 4 for this |
| 12:41.25 | JJOliver | abrotman: Sorry, i'm prolly switching terminolgy. It needs only to be a PDC. |
| 12:41.39 | the-dude | samba3 works as NT4 |
| 12:41.40 | abrotman | oh .. tons of docs for that |
| 12:42.07 | enouf | 'info libc "Name Service Switch"' <--nice, heh |
| 12:43.06 | g00se | "One of the goals of Samba4 is to implement an Active Directory compatible Domain Controller." http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba4 |
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| 12:43.37 | abrotman | g00se: he said he doesn't need the AD part |
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| 12:43.54 | the-dude | then samba3 will be fine :) |
| 12:44.25 | JJOliver | So all I want it my debian mirror / web server, to also act as a domain Server, so all computers have to log on to their terminal, get access governed by the server (there will be radius authentication involved). All documents will need to be stored on the server (backuped up by an rsync server) but appear like they are on the terminal. The terminals will not be able to be logged in locally (except for admin purposes) |
| 12:45.01 | g00se | abrotman: Sorry - missed that |
| 12:45.03 | abrotman | JJOliver: there is a #samba .. and the samba docs cover samba acting as a PDC |
| 12:45.06 | JJOliver | I have spent about 2 months researching and find out how to do that. |
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| 12:45.30 | JJOliver | Without success, following documents and guides has screwed up my server . . . |
| 12:45.54 | abrotman | why aren't you testing on another box ? or in a VM ? |
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| 12:46.31 | JJOliver | abrotman: Because I don't have the resources to have a second box . . . I have a desktop that will become my server |
| 12:46.42 | abrotman | so you can still test in a VM ? |
| 12:46.43 | JJOliver | I'll raid it once I know how to set it up. |
| 12:47.00 | JJOliver | abrotman: I don't mind reformatting my server install. |
| 12:47.17 | abrotman | didn't you just complain about it screwing up your server ? |
| 12:47.51 | jelly | abrotman: hey, don't accuse the users of being incoherent! |
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| 12:49.10 | JJOliver | abrotman: yes and no, all i have managed to achieve is a screwed up server, i'm not bothered about the screwed up server, i'm bothered by having nothing to show for a month's part time work! |
| 12:49.25 | ronalwo | system doe not recognise my scanner. xsane says "no devices". |
| 12:49.29 | JJOliver | well other than a screwed up server. |
| 12:49.29 | abrotman | thought it was two months |
| 12:49.47 | darkhamm | hey people, how can i add amr_nb support on my ffmpeg? |
| 12:49.50 | JJOliver | abrotman: hehehe Okay, honestly i've been working on this 3 months, but it's part time, few hours here and there. |
| 12:49.59 | JJOliver | but I'll check out the #samb |
| 12:50.07 | JJOliver | #samba even |
| 12:50.11 | JJOliver | Thanks for the help so far. |
| 12:50.19 | abrotman | JJOliver: like this: http://edin.no-ip.com/content/ldap-samba-pdc-pamnss-debian-lenny-howto ? |
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| 12:50.24 | ronalwo | anyone using hp f300 series printer? |
| 12:51.01 | JJOliver | abrotman: looking. Thanks |
| 12:51.14 | abrotman | seriously? first hit on google |
| 12:51.20 | abrotman | is pretty sure his google-fu can't be that good |
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| 12:51.40 | Devjos | how to check dns service is on or off |
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| 12:51.46 | Devjos | ok debian 4 |
| 12:51.47 | Devjos | ? |
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| 12:52.04 | Devjos | on debian 4 |
| 12:52.34 | JJOliver | abrotman: I've been here before but it didn't work when it came to php/apache |
| 12:52.44 | tempuser | i recently upgraded from etch-lenny and have discovered that my ldap auth has mysteriously stopped working. i have |
| 12:52.44 | tempuser | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:52.44 | tempuser | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:53.08 | tempuser | sorry about that guys. |
| 12:53.15 | JJOliver | (-: |
| 12:53.49 | Devjos | how to check dns service is on or off on debian 4 ? |
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| 12:54.12 | petemc | lsof -i :53 |
| 12:54.29 | JJOliver | abrotman: i'm gonna try a fresh instal of server, to see if that helps. Thanks for the support though. |
| 12:54.33 | tempuser | aside from my tired fingers and poor etiquette, any ideas on the libpam-ldap or libnss-ldap issue? |
| 12:54.56 | enouf | tempuser: i see you also inquired over on OFTC.net -- anyways; file:///usr/share/doc/libgnutls26/NEWS.Debian.gz any good info? |
| 12:55.19 | enouf | or just file:///usr/share/doc/libgnutls26/NEWS.gz for that matter |
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| 12:55.25 | tempuser | i did, there didnt seem to be much going on over there. |
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| 12:56.14 | tempuser | enouf: /usr/share/doc/libgnutls26/NEWS.gz does not exist on my system. |
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| 12:57.24 | lord_rob | Hi ! Which package contains the xorg drivers for the intel video card ? (xserver-xorg-video-XXXX) |
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| 12:57.41 | rgr | I have a really annoying dependency issue with aptitude. Could some guru here please help me work it out? I have tried purging all emacs etc. But where to start here? Link to follow : |
| 12:57.57 | rgr | pasted "problem with aptitude" at http://paste2.org/p/337381 |
| 12:58.17 | Titan8990 | lord_rob, xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 12:58.32 | enouf | tempuser: well. find which version is installed - many ways - or see p.d.o and follow links to devel pages and changelogs |
| 12:58.47 | tempuser | enouf: sorry about that, i mistyped. it does exist. reading now. |
| 12:58.52 | lord_rob | thx Titan8990 |
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| 13:00.38 | enouf | tempuser: no worries -- there's also the BTS and /msg dpkg lenny release notes |
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| 13:03.38 | abrotman | Devjos: you're askign the wrong question |
| 13:03.46 | abrotman | JJOliver: what does apache have to do with it? |
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| 13:04.04 | JJOliver | abrotman: well if you can't get that bit to work, the rest won't work right |
| 13:04.20 | abrotman | doesn't see what apache has to do with a PDC |
| 13:04.31 | JJOliver | so you need the apache to work to get the phpldapadmin |
| 13:04.33 | JJOliver | to work |
| 13:05.19 | JJOliver | so if the tutorial requires you use the phpldapadmin and apache doesn't work for whatever reason (the same problem i've had with SWAT) |
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| 13:05.32 | JJOliver | so i can't finnish the tutorial and so the thing stilld oesn't work. |
| 13:06.08 | jelly | !tutorials |
| 13:06.08 | dpkg | A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their system without reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to look for hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way. |
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| 13:06.46 | JJOliver | sure jelly but here isn't the place to learn how to do high end debian stuff, without any background experience. |
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| 13:07.14 | JJOliver | So then I have to rely heavily on what's online (as i'm in the bush of uganda working as a missionary) and I only have a 6KB/s internet |
| 13:07.20 | JJOliver | So i've learnt by doing. |
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| 13:07.51 | tempuser | enouf: i'll take a look and see if i can come up with anything useful. |
| 13:07.51 | jelly | JJOliver: just saying, if you have to do ldap stuff, you might as well do it with .ldifs and command line instead of relying on optional GUI |
| 13:07.54 | JJOliver | So for example. Although Rsync is technically the correct way of setting up a mirror, doesn't work in my situation. I learnt that by following the tutorials 'That is not the Proper Way'. |
| 13:08.23 | JJOliver | jelly: without reading the tutorial on how stuff works, how am i supposed to know what .ldifs are. |
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| 13:08.50 | JJOliver | jelly: most of the technical help require significant fore knowledge on how linux / unix works. . . . which I don't have. |
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| 13:09.17 | JJOliver | I have 'The Linux Bible' even that assumes foreknowledge. |
| 13:09.33 | linduxed1 | is there a way to make ssh-add entries permanent? |
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| 13:09.54 | g00se | JJOliver: The point is, using a gui only adds further layers of complexity in a mistaken effort to sidestep stuff you need to know anyway. You might escape it for a while, but it'll bite you later if you don't learn it |
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| 13:09.59 | jelly | JJOliver: most tutorials will leave you hanging clueless if anything goes wrong; so the Proper Way is to peruse the real documentation for the services used (ie. openldap and samba) |
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| 13:10.48 | jelly | if you need to create a ldap user, having to set up apache and phpmyldapsomething is likely overkill |
| 13:10.59 | Xilent | back again, still no luck with mga |
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| 13:11.21 | jelly | but yes, that requires you to know there's a way to do it in command line and being able to figure out that way |
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| 13:12.11 | JJOliver | jelly: the documentation assumes a higher level of foreknowledge to make them usable. |
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| 13:12.24 | giacomo | hello |
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| 13:12.47 | JJOliver | g00se: I totally agree, the tutorials skip over a lot. |
| 13:12.53 | giacomo | I've a problem here, I'm looking at the "who's online" of my website and I see a lot of multiple connections from a single ip, for some ips. I can't track down which are search engine crawling bots and which are not, by the way I need a system to limit this, because is blocking the apache server |
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| 13:13.24 | Xilent | system-config-display --reconfig fails |
| 13:13.35 | Xilent | only black screen on both displays |
| 13:13.36 | JJOliver | But where else tells you how to do things that you don't know how to do yet. The Samba document is 400 odd pages long, and assumes alot of the reader. |
| 13:13.46 | jelly | JJOliver: that's right, and official docs are often crappy coming from 0 knowledge position, but a tutorial builds _on top_ of that not around it |
| 13:13.50 | the-dude | JJOliver: is has very practical examples |
| 13:14.06 | JJOliver | the-dude: sure Okay. |
| 13:14.10 | the-dude | download smbldap-tools it comes with a pdf with instructions |
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| 13:14.56 | jelly | since all this won't help you with the real problem at hand, I'll withdraw instead of stating the obvious |
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| 13:15.23 | ronalwo | I am using lenny. If i install hplip, the message says cupsys, cupsys-client, cupsys-common will be removed. does that make sense? |
| 13:15.37 | JJOliver | the-dude: thanks. |
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| 13:16.47 | JJOliver | the-dude: Though i've managed to ruin Slapd so it won't work, and the install is killed by a non-functioning slapd. |
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| 13:17.12 | the-dude | JJOliver: just start from scratch with instructions in the pdf file |
| 13:17.17 | jelly | ronalwo: not really. what happens if you "aptitude -s install hplip cupsys"? |
| 13:17.24 | JJOliver | thanks. |
| 13:17.36 | jelly | ronalwo: (in an effort to keep both installed) |
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| 13:19.05 | ronalwo | jelly: know what, msg says :Need to get 123MB/128MB of archives. |
| 13:19.07 | ronalwo | After this operation, 237MB of additional disk space will be used. |
| 13:19.08 | enouf | ronalwo: i've seen things like that |
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| 13:19.23 | ronalwo | just to install hplip! |
| 13:19.43 | jelly | ronalwo: that's not all it says. Please pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy hplip cupsys-common" |
| 13:19.46 | enouf | ronalwo: seems like the cupsys-bsd or lpr stuffs, oe somesuch interferes |
| 13:20.18 | jelly | ronalwo: your system may be outdated a bit and needing updates, or you may have extra repositories enabled. |
| 13:20.55 | jelly | ronalwo: oh, and the complete output of that command above might be helpful, too. |
| 13:21.54 | enouf | ronalwo: also; "aptitude why hplip cupsys cupsys-client cupsys-common" perhaps might shed some light - when was the last time you upgraded or installed something? |
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| 13:24.03 | Devjos | how to use sshd in debian 4 ? |
| 13:24.13 | abrotman | aptitude install openssh-server |
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| 13:26.33 | Whoop | Do we have any preseeding gurus in here who would be so kind to take a look at why my preseed file is failing during the partitioning section? |
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| 13:31.36 | nOStahl | hi all, Anyone here ever involved in ps2linux? (running linux on your playstation2) |
| 13:32.44 | Whoop | http://pastie.org/556379 - Can anyone see why that fails during the partitioning section please? (I know its the partitioning section as I commented everything below it out) |
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| 13:34.47 | Terminus1 | hello. question, how do i stop a specific network interface? |
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| 13:35.32 | the-dude | Terminus1: ifconfig $eth down |
| 13:35.36 | abrotman | ifdown |
| 13:36.07 | Terminus1 | will that run /etc/network/if-post-down.d/* ? |
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| 13:36.33 | iuso | hello. the company i work for needs a private deb repository; i've set one up using ssh keys. the "problem" is that the client machines' root users of course need a key, either named ~/.ssh/id_rsa or loaded using ssh-agent. is there no third option, like telling apt-get which key files correspond to which repositories in sources.list? |
| 13:36.50 | Terminus1 | tries |
| 13:38.21 | justin | iuso: why not use https? |
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| 13:41.41 | iuso | justin: ssh is the safest afaik |
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| 13:41.44 | iuso | justin: especially with keys |
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| 13:41.53 | Derick | good day |
| 13:41.56 | justin | iuso: true, but it is harder to manage |
| 13:42.06 | justin | iuso: depends how much security you need and how paranoid you are |
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| 13:42.41 | Derick | I'm having issues with isntalling the ia32-libs packages (on unstable) with the error "ia32-libs: Depends: ia32-apt-get (>= 21) but it is not going to be installed". I googled to see how I can force this install but no luck. Any hints? |
| 13:42.51 | iuso | justin: i'll go the extra mile for security, so if there's no way to have other key names than /root/.ssh/id_rsa i'll accept it as an unfortunate fact. :) |
| 13:43.03 | justin | iuso: there should be |
| 13:43.08 | iuso | justin: but would you happen to know any apt-get developers? i could throw them an idea |
| 13:43.15 | justin | iuso: either through one of the apt config files, or definitely though the ssh_config |
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| 13:43.42 | iuso | justin: hmm, i should read ssh's config man page through |
| 13:43.45 | iuso | justin: thanks |
| 13:44.06 | iuso | justin: (i think apt-get's config only knows about gpg signing keys) |
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| 13:48.10 | davelp | Hi, what is the solution to this |
| 13:48.10 | davelp | no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH |
| 13:48.19 | petemc | !b-e davelp |
| 13:48.19 | dpkg | davelp: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
| 13:48.21 | JyZyGyZyX | interesting, i just did apt-get update; apt-get upgrade and im still in 2.6.26-1 when there is a 2.6.26-2 available |
| 13:48.43 | stew | JyZyGyZyX: why is that interesting? |
| 13:48.46 | JyZyGyZyX | shouldn't it like... upgrade |
| 13:49.01 | stew | JyZyGyZyX: apt-get upgrade doesn't install random new packages |
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| 13:49.04 | Probe89 | how do i get adobe flash player for ice weasel? |
| 13:49.11 | JyZyGyZyX | oh? |
| 13:49.15 | stew | JyZyGyZyX: yes |
| 13:49.26 | JyZyGyZyX | but its a newer version of a package |
| 13:49.33 | stew | JyZyGyZyX: no its a different package |
| 13:49.48 | stew | JyZyGyZyX: one package is named linux-image-2.6.26-1 and the other package is named linux-image-2.6.26-2 |
| 13:49.56 | JyZyGyZyX | oh so you gotta install new kernels manually? |
| 13:50.25 | stew | JyZyGyZyX: you can install a kernel metapackage like linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 13:50.47 | JyZyGyZyX | oh and then ill always have the newest :) |
| 13:50.50 | abrotman | Probe89: /msg dpkg adobe flash |
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| 13:52.41 | RichiH | JyZyGyZyX: only if they update linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 13:52.42 | TiMiDo | !squeezy |
| 13:52.49 | RichiH | which they are known not to do ;) |
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| 13:53.27 | stew | and then do you end up getting your running kernel removed as being auto installed? that I've wondered about. I dont' use the meta-packages |
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| 13:53.33 | JyZyGyZyX | locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 13:53.36 | JyZyGyZyX | locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 13:53.45 | JyZyGyZyX | what are these warnings i get with apt-get sometimes? |
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| 13:55.23 | Probe89 | wow |
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| 13:57.13 | stew | JyZyGyZyX: I believe it is warning you that your are setting those variables to a locale which doesn't exist |
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| 13:57.54 | JyZyGyZyX | how do you fix it o.O |
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| 13:58.36 | Probe89 | E: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation candidate |
| 13:58.38 | stew | JyZyGyZyX: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 13:59.12 | kira__ | Hi i have installed and confgured ivman but nothing happens no error and the automount thing also |
| 13:59.17 | Derick | What does this line exactly mean: "ia32-libs: Depends: ia32-apt-get (>= 21) but it is not going to be installed" (I have ia32-apt-get version 22 installed) |
| 13:59.20 | stew | Probe89: that package can't be in debian becuase it depends on the non-free flash plugin, its in contrib, /msg dpkg contrib |
| 13:59.50 | stew | kira__: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 14:00.21 | stew | Derick: show us the output of "apt-cache policy ia32-libs ia32-apt-get" ; use a pastebin: /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 14:00.29 | Derick | sure |
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| 14:00.54 | kira__ | i have ubuntu 9.04 running with fluxbox |
| 14:01.02 | stew | kira__: ask #ubuntu |
| 14:01.05 | Derick | stew: http://pastebin.com/m6fc5a7b9 |
| 14:01.06 | Probe89 | what stew that makes no sense |
| 14:01.21 | stew | Probe89: i'm sure that it does. what part didn't you understand? |
| 14:01.25 | kira__ | the dont know ivman |
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| 14:01.49 | Probe89 | u have to add something to source or whatever |
| 14:02.05 | Probe89 | never been that hard to get flash player in other linux distros |
| 14:02.07 | stew | Probe89: yes, you have to add contrib |
| 14:02.20 | Probe89 | how? |
| 14:02.43 | stew | Probe89: yes, because other distros aren't trying to be 100% free like debian is |
| 14:02.50 | stew | Probe89: /msg dpkg contrib ; man sources.list |
| 14:03.05 | stew | kira__: there are people in there that know a lot about ivamn, like me |
| 14:03.22 | edoreld | How can I see a package size (on repository) before installing it? |
| 14:03.27 | Derick | stew: I found http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=534237 but that's for the -18 version... seems to be the same issue though |
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| 14:04.08 | stew | Derick: hmm |
| 14:04.15 | stew | edoreld: apt-cache show packagename |
| 14:04.21 | edoreld | thnanks |
| 14:04.22 | edoreld | thanks |
| 14:04.28 | JyZyGyZyX | stew: hmm it didn't help |
| 14:04.52 | JyZyGyZyX | when i update-initramfs i still get locale errors |
| 14:05.08 | Probe89 | welp im out |
| 14:05.28 | stew | JyZyGyZyX: what does "echo $LC_CTYPE $LANG" return? |
| 14:05.42 | JyZyGyZyX | en_US.UTF-8 |
| 14:05.49 | stew | JyZyGyZyX: that's it? |
| 14:06.02 | JyZyGyZyX | thats it |
| 14:06.14 | stew | JyZyGyZyX: what does "echo $LC_CTYPE" return? |
| 14:06.24 | JyZyGyZyX | \n |
| 14:06.30 | enouf | heh |
| 14:06.57 | enouf | same here |
| 14:07.16 | enouf | but 'locale' shows LC_CTYPE="en_US" |
| 14:07.34 | JyZyGyZyX | for me it doesn't |
| 14:07.36 | enouf | odd, eh? |
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| 14:07.47 | enouf | JyZyGyZyX: pastebin output of locale |
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| 14:08.15 | JyZyGyZyX | http://pastebin.com/f5e187a23 |
| 14:08.27 | Derick | stew: you think I should reopen the bug? |
| 14:08.31 | enouf | JyZyGyZyX: and also note whether you;re root user, or regular user |
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| 14:08.43 | JyZyGyZyX | im a regular user |
| 14:08.56 | JyZyGyZyX | sudo locale returns the same |
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| 14:09.38 | enouf | JyZyGyZyX: odd ... that pastebin looks fine - what's in /etc/default/locale? |
| 14:09.58 | JyZyGyZyX | LANG=en_US.UTF-8 |
| 14:09.59 | g00se | JyZyGyZyX: Try it after locale>l.sh;source l.sh |
| 14:10.02 | JyZyGyZyX | only that |
| 14:10.13 | enouf | JyZyGyZyX: all i could suggest is try - wait, you use "sudo apt-get install ..." (which is fine too) |
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| 14:10.58 | enouf | JyZyGyZyX: "export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8" ..if it doesn't do anything useful, you could always just unset it |
| 14:11.38 | JyZyGyZyX | bah ill do nothing |
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| 14:11.54 | JyZyGyZyX | i don't give a rats ass about the whole locale system |
| 14:12.15 | enouf | JyZyGyZyX: to unset, just "export LC_ALL=" to return to nothing -- it's a shell sesion specific command |
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| 14:12.30 | \amethyst | JyZyGyZyX: does locale -a list en_US.UTF-8 as an available locale? |
| 14:12.39 | JyZyGyZyX | yea |
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| 14:13.21 | g00se | JyZyGyZyX: Did you try what i suggested? |
| 14:13.48 | JyZyGyZyX | no i gave up |
| 14:13.52 | enouf | JyZyGyZyX: run "dpkg-reconfigure locales" just for the heck of it - and view what's selected and deselected -- (and/or 'apt-get -f install' to --fix-broken) |
| 14:13.54 | JyZyGyZyX | ill just live with the warnings |
| 14:14.23 | enouf | wants JyZyGyZyX to learn strace :-p |
| 14:14.34 | abrotman | enouf: /etc/locale.gen has that i believe |
| 14:15.18 | Esto | is there any manuals about configuring wpa with madwifi ? |
| 14:15.20 | enouf | abrotman: ahh .. also though, wasn';t there some 'localegen' or 'genlocale' command at one point? |
| 14:15.58 | Esto | in wpasup* manual said to use wpa-driver madwifi, but in debian wpa said not to, because it depricated |
| 14:15.58 | g00se | enouf: That rings a bell |
| 14:16.07 | enouf | JyZyGyZyX: dpkg -l localepurge <--is that installed? |
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| 14:16.21 | JyZyGyZyX | no |
| 14:16.40 | Esto | but with wext it is giving such errors: http://paste2.org/p/337487 |
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| 14:16.53 | enouf | interesting output from; ~$ cat /usr/share/doc/localepurge/reinstall_debs.sh |
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| 14:17.21 | enouf | g00se: aye |
| 14:17.52 | enouf | g00se: aha! locales: /usr/sbin/locale-gen |
| 14:18.17 | enouf | heck, there's even a man page; locales: /usr/share/man/man8/locale-gen.8.gz |
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| 14:19.45 | abrotman | enouf: localegen .. afaik, uses that file |
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| 14:21.11 | enouf | abrotman: i see that now (man page ;-)) |
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| 14:21.28 | g00se | Isn't the problem that a var that's meant to be set isn't set? |
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| 14:26.00 | teonanacatl | mh, i can't get multiple applications playing sounds concurrently. i thought enabling ESD should be enough, but it seems not to be |
| 14:26.06 | teonanacatl | any hints? |
| 14:26.30 | stew | Derick: what does "dpkg -l ia32-apt-get | tail -1" return? |
| 14:26.40 | linduxed1 | why do i get "unknow host" for everything i type after traceroute6? |
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| 14:27.00 | g00se | teonanacatl: Sure the hardware supports it? |
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| 14:28.30 | Derick | stew: |
| 14:28.33 | Derick | ii ia32-apt-get 22 Apt-get, aptitude and dpkg wrapper for on-the-fly conversion |
| 14:29.09 | teonanacatl | g00se, i think so |
| 14:29.13 | stew | Derick: quite odd |
| 14:29.23 | Derick | stew: tell me about it :P |
| 14:29.38 | Derick | not sure how to re-install them all either |
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| 14:30.36 | stew | Derick: "aptitude reinstall package1 package2..." but I doubt it would help |
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| 14:30.44 | Derick | stew: it doesn't |
| 14:30.45 | Esto | anyone know how to configure wpa for madwifi on debian ap? |
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| 14:30.53 | Derick | stew: Any way how I can force the install? |
| 14:30.55 | stew | Derick: the bug you found is unrelated. this seems like a problem with libapt/dpkg, not with the actual packages |
| 14:31.03 | Derick | oh |
| 14:31.04 | Esto | is there any manuals or config examples exists? |
| 14:31.05 | stew | Derick: are you using apt-get or aptitude? |
| 14:31.05 | teonanacatl | g00se, i didn't have these problems with any hardware yet - what exactly does it need? |
| 14:31.10 | Derick | stew: apt-get |
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| 14:31.39 | Derick | (and synaptic) |
| 14:31.41 | stew | Derick: try with aptitude ; or maybe try "apt-get -f install" or "aptitude -f install" to see if anything needs to be -f(ixed) |
| 14:31.47 | g00se | teonanacatl: I don't know, but try a live disk and eliminate hw as a problem source |
| 14:31.50 | Derick | stew: I tried that, no luck |
| 14:32.07 | teonanacatl | g00se, now, as you mention it - it worked fine with ubuntu |
| 14:32.07 | stew | Derick: try aptitude install ia32-libs |
| 14:32.29 | g00se | teonanacatl: If it works then try to emulate the config - save it somewhere |
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| 14:32.46 | teonanacatl | so i dont need more than the working alsa-stuff? |
| 14:32.56 | Derick | stew: http://pastebin.com/m2ca9269d |
| 14:33.23 | stew | Derick: ohhhh |
| 14:33.25 | Derick | stew: it seems like "22" of ia32-libs has not made it into the repository? |
| 14:33.31 | stew | Derick: ia32-apt-get conflicts with the older ia32-libs |
| 14:33.37 | stew | Derick: so you just have to wait for a newer ia32-libs |
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| 14:33.42 | g00se | teonanacatl: Again i don't know the full answer to that, but certainly start with the alsa stuff |
| 14:33.45 | Derick | stew: it's been a week already though :) |
| 14:33.46 | tuantub | Esto: try to use wpasupplicant : http://wiki.debian.org/WPA#wpasupplicantinDebian5.0.28Lenny.29 |
| 14:33.57 | stew | Derick: welcome to unstable |
| 14:34.01 | Derick | hehe, yeah |
| 14:34.07 | Derick | stew: can I force the installation though? |
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| 14:34.17 | stew | Derick: yes, but you shouldn't |
| 14:34.23 | teonanacatl | mh, okay, gonna bug google again |
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| 14:34.27 | Derick | i know I shouldn't... |
| 14:34.31 | stew | Derick: good |
| 14:34.32 | tuantub | Esto: note that you should turn off your network manager when using wpasupplicant |
| 14:34.39 | Derick | stew: but still, *how* do I do that? |
| 14:34.40 | g00se | teonanacatl: If a technique could be developed with this methodology, it could be quite useful |
| 14:34.45 | Esto | what network manager? |
| 14:34.50 | Derick | (as a theoretical excersise) |
| 14:34.56 | Esto | you mean if-up/down system? |
| 14:35.03 | Esto | but isn't it just a scripts? |
| 14:35.23 | Esto | thats called on demand |
| 14:35.29 | tuantub | Esto: if you are using gnome as default, it should be nm-applet |
| 14:35.32 | stew | Derick: dpkg has force commands, but note that it only forces the operation it doesn't force it into a happy state, so it will try to remove the package again at every subsequent operation until you fix it |
| 14:36.01 | Derick | stew: yeah, but when I try to apt-get install -d the package, I get the same errors... so I wonder how to get to dl the package |
| 14:36.06 | Esto | ah, you mean network-manager thing |
| 14:36.10 | Esto | no, i don't have one |
| 14:36.35 | stew | Derick: download it with a web browser of ftp client |
| 14:36.46 | Derick | right, let me see if I can find the path :) |
| 14:36.55 | Esto | tuantub: but by the way, in http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-wpa/wpasupplicant/branches/unstable/debian/README.Debian?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 said to use wpa-driver madwifi |
| 14:36.58 | stew | Derick: /msg dpkg pdo |
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| 14:37.05 | Esto | and link you gived said that it is depricated |
| 14:37.19 | tuantub | Esto: :-ss |
| 14:37.25 | g00se | teonanacatl: Are you running Lenny? |
| 14:37.26 | stew | Derick: why do you need ia32-apt-get version 22 instead of version 21? |
| 14:37.40 | Esto | so it switching to wext and gives errors: http://paste2.org/p/337487 |
| 14:38.04 | teonanacatl | g00se, squeeze |
| 14:38.53 | tuantub | Esto: btw which version of debian are you using ? |
| 14:39.03 | Esto | tuantub: lenny |
| 14:39.28 | Derick | stew: I don't need it, but it's what gets installed |
| 14:39.37 | Derick | I'd be fine with version 21 |
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| 14:39.44 | stew | Derick: then use 21 |
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| 14:39.55 | Derick | stew: can I force that? |
| 14:39.57 | tuantub | Esto: have you had a look on this link: ? http://wiki.debian.org/WPA#wpasupplicantinDebian5.0.28Lenny.29 |
| 14:40.28 | Esto | yes, there said "ipw, madwifi, ndiswrapper and test wpa_supplicant driver backends are no longer provided in the wpasupplicant package" |
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| 14:41.14 | stew | Derick: why would you have to force it? |
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| 14:41.36 | Derick | stew: If I install the package, it does version 22 by default, right? |
| 14:41.47 | stew | yes |
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| 14:42.01 | tuantub | Esto: sorry, i think i cant help you further then :( |
| 14:42.27 | Derick | stew: need to find the -21 package :-) |
| 14:42.36 | stew | yes |
| 14:42.43 | Derick | http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/pool/main/i/ia32-libs-tools/ |
| 14:42.45 | Derick | it's not there |
| 14:42.56 | stew | Derick: is it in your cache? |
| 14:43.02 | Derick | doubt it, I can check |
| 14:43.30 | Derick | nope :/ |
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| 14:44.10 | jelly | !sdn |
| 14:44.10 | dpkg | snapshots is probably an archive that contains all Debian packages uploaded since 2002, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way undistributable. Much of 2004 was lost because of harddisk problems. See http://snapshot.debian.net/ for more information. |
| 14:44.28 | stew | !sdn is also unmaintained since May 2008 |
| 14:44.29 | dpkg | stew: okay |
| 14:44.33 | Derick | awesome |
| 14:44.35 | Derick | :) |
| 14:44.39 | stew | not awesome |
| 14:44.47 | Derick | yeah, that was sarcastic... |
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| 14:46.19 | jelly | aw. |
| 14:47.03 | macrobat | i have a file with pkgs i'd like to install, but i cant do aptitude install `cat file` how do i solve this ? |
| 14:47.04 | Derick | seems none of the mirrors have it either |
| 14:47.18 | stew | Derick: you'll have to wait |
| 14:47.25 | Derick | seems like it |
| 14:47.26 | jelly | stew: noone stepped in? |
| 14:47.27 | Derick | thanks anyway |
| 14:48.01 | stew | jelly: DSA wants to run it officially, but afaik we are still waiting on hardware donations we'd need to run it |
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| 14:50.27 | gum2tux | why i changed the time zone, after close and check again, it still remain unchange, please advise |
| 14:50.27 | jelly | stew: oh. $employer would be probably be able to provide connectivity and hardware, but not send the hw away |
| 14:50.53 | stew | jelly: we're looking for a 10TB sas |
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| 14:51.41 | jelly | sata not good enough, eh. |
| 14:51.58 | gum2tux | why i changed the time it still remain unchanged. is it related to NTC ? |
| 14:52.00 | enouf | Esto: /msg dpkg wifi howto (wiki.debian.org is/was regularly updated concerning wifi stuffs, or try #wireless , etc) |
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| 14:52.28 | d1b | what's the command you run so you can add an item / version increase to a debian package? |
| 14:52.31 | d1b | dh something |
| 14:52.31 | jelly | stew: oh, you probably mean a box with 10TB net and sas connectivity. |
| 14:52.39 | tempuser | having just caught the last few sentnences of your guys conversions: what hardware if desired? |
| 14:52.47 | tempuser | s/if/is |
| 14:53.09 | jelly | stew: ie. some 15TB gross sata disks + controller + sas to server |
| 14:53.21 | enouf | heh, and i was going to donate a powermac 7300/200 as possible hardware? .... |
| 14:53.25 | enouf | hides |
| 14:53.53 | stew | jelly: i'm trying to find weasel's original solicitation |
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| 14:54.07 | icedwater | Still can't seem to get my nvidia card's max resolution to work. |
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| 14:55.09 | d1b | *cough* |
| 14:55.11 | icedwater | Screwed up my xorg.conf earlier, only just brought it back :P |
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| 15:02.41 | ajavid | good morning |
| 15:03.09 | ajavid | icedwater, you can specify it in xorg.conf manually |
| 15:03.09 | Buruno | morning |
| 15:03.14 | olivr | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:03.24 | olivr | works perfectly... DRI and such |
| 15:03.26 | somebody | I have a eeepc 701 , with Debian intalled ( debain-eee special version with wirless drivers installed) Its alt2 and a lsmod show they are load but if i do a iwlist scan for my acces point on wlan0 i get nothing. |
| 15:03.30 | ajavid | icedwater, if its not picking up all the modes, look at the log file, see if you get EDId readout from the monitor |
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| 15:04.52 | pngwn | somebody, have you tried #debian-eeepc on irc.oftc.net ? |
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| 15:05.20 | bense | can someone assist me in finding the kernel config that my debian system uses? |
| 15:05.31 | somebody | pngwn , no was not aware of it. |
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| 15:05.34 | icedwater | ajavid: EDId? |
| 15:05.47 | ajavid | !edid |
| 15:05.47 | dpkg | edid is probably Extended Display Identification Data. you can modify the edid mode if you have problem with the res in X windows, because some monitors are known to lie about their capabilities, sometimes your screen can't use a higher resulution than e.g. 1024x768 in X windows, but there's a solution to this, by using 'Option' "IgnoreEDID" "1" in the section "Screen" in the XF86Config-4 file, note - this wont make your monitor able to use higher ... |
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| 15:06.14 | icedwater | I'm hearing lenny doesn't use xorg.conf that much any more. |
| 15:06.20 | ajavid | it does |
| 15:06.28 | ajavid | it has to |
| 15:06.50 | ajavid | its another thing that most of the settings are automatically detected |
| 15:06.56 | stew | icedwater: that's correct |
| 15:07.01 | ajavid | it still uses xorg.conf |
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| 15:07.20 | ajavid | stew, no |
| 15:07.21 | oxi | hi |
| 15:07.23 | ajavid | it is not. |
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| 15:07.40 | abrotman | it doesn't require one |
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| 15:07.45 | ranix | icedwater: FYI there's still some confusion on the issue |
| 15:07.46 | stew | icedwater: it can, but it doesn't use it much by default, and doesn't require one |
| 15:07.49 | olivr | i don't use it here... under freebsd |
| 15:07.51 | oxi | is there an easy way to dist upgrade from lenny to squeeze? |
| 15:08.01 | abrotman | !tell oxi about lenny->squeeze |
| 15:08.10 | oxi | abrotman: perfect, thanks! |
| 15:08.17 | stew | icedwater: you can still use a fully specified, verbose xorg.conf if you wish, but if you don't, it will auto-detect settings in most cases |
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| 15:08.22 | ajavid | *sigh* are you sure it doesn't require it? Obviously I see xorg working just dandy for him. |
| 15:09.00 | icedwater | Ah, I see. |
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| 15:09.06 | icedwater | Brb. |
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| 15:09.33 | oxi | does anyone think it would be okay to use squeeze for production, if I only stick to java6 and tomcat6? |
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| 15:09.37 | enouf | icedwater: yo |
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| 15:09.51 | olivr | What can replace gdm? since there is no GDM setup and its ugly as hell... |
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| 15:09.56 | ajavid | kdm |
| 15:10.02 | enouf | icedwater: read about X autoconfig detection via following last URL shown from /msg dpkg hal |
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| 15:10.05 | ajavid | xdm too, but its actually crappier |
| 15:10.06 | olivr | thats ugly too no ? |
| 15:10.11 | ajavid | yup |
| 15:10.13 | abrotman | oxi: is it something for the outside world ? |
| 15:10.13 | enouf | !nodm |
| 15:10.14 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm slim". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console. |
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| 15:10.15 | ajavid | much crappier. |
| 15:10.16 | enouf | heh |
| 15:10.21 | oxi | abrotman: yes |
| 15:10.24 | ajavid | enouf, nodm is no dm! |
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| 15:10.30 | abrotman | oxi: i wouldn't |
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| 15:10.41 | enouf | ajavid: you don't need no stinking DM! |
| 15:10.54 | ajavid | need? probably not. want, yessir, very much. |
| 15:11.02 | oxi | abrotman: ... even if I only stick to the packages for java & tomcat hosting? |
| 15:11.02 | enouf | eww |
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| 15:11.25 | ajavid | oxi, stable is the way to go |
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| 15:11.30 | jpinx-eeepc | oxi: use lenny with backports |
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| 15:11.46 | oxi | abrotman: ajavid: stable has no proper tomcat6 integration I think |
| 15:12.14 | oxi | jpinx-eeepc: I've been using backports in the past, but I haven't been that happy with it |
| 15:12.15 | ajavid | icedwater, when xorg works universally without an xorg.conf, then I will believe that it doesn't 'require' an xorg.conf. Until then, whatever. |
| 15:12.19 | ajavid | :D |
| 15:12.32 | ajavid | oxi, I use stable and I backport whatever I need |
| 15:12.38 | oxi | I'm mainly interested in http://packages.debian.org/de/squeeze/tomcat6 |
| 15:12.45 | jelly | oxi: I'd use stable and get tomcat tarballs from upstream |
| 15:12.56 | jpinx-eeepc | judd: versions tomcat |
| 15:12.57 | enouf | icedwater: show us relevant info to pastebin, as we tried yesterday -- lspci -nn | grep VGA ; Xorg.0.log ; xrandr output, etc |
| 15:12.57 | judd | jpinx-eeepc: tomcat -- |
| 15:13.03 | jpinx-eeepc | judd: versions tomcat6 |
| 15:13.03 | judd | jpinx-eeepc: tomcat6 -- sid: 6.0.20-2 squeeze: 6.0.20-2 experimental: 6.0.20-4 |
| 15:13.04 | oxi | Jelly: ok, thanks! ... I think I'll try that |
| 15:13.12 | abrotman | olivr: gdmsetup still exists ? |
| 15:13.15 | olivr | nop |
| 15:13.19 | ajavid | people still use gdm? |
| 15:13.24 | ajavid | unbelievable. |
| 15:13.29 | olivr | i don't anymore... |
| 15:13.35 | jelly | but that's me, we just never bothered to spend more than 5 minutes trying to figure out what debian packager of tomcat was smoking |
| 15:13.36 | abrotman | olivr: in which version of debian ? |
| 15:13.36 | olivr | i wanted a replacement. |
| 15:13.42 | olivr | im not on debian :/ |
| 15:13.46 | ajavid | linduxed1, I swear by KDM |
| 15:13.47 | abrotman | what are you on? |
| 15:13.50 | ajavid | olivr, * |
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| 15:13.52 | oxi | jelly: hehe, ok! |
| 15:13.52 | olivr | freebsd. |
| 15:13.57 | abrotman | olivr: so why are you asking here? |
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| 15:14.05 | olivr | but that was a common question... nothing specific to debian |
| 15:14.06 | abrotman | !find bin/gdmsetup lenny |
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| 15:14.15 | ajavid | abrotman, I'm not sure but isn't there a way to use debian on freebsd kernel or something |
| 15:14.19 | ajavid | what was that all about |
| 15:14.25 | oxi | jelly: what's the process? ... mainly just get the tarball from http://packages.debian.org/de/squeeze/tomcat6 and extract it to my root in lenny? |
| 15:14.25 | ajavid | i forgot |
| 15:14.28 | enouf | abrotman: thanks .. .twas afraid i'd kill a bot trying that - heh |
| 15:14.28 | abrotman | he said not debian .. freebsd .. not debian/kfreebsd |
| 15:14.31 | olivr | we usualy use FC. but you can yes |
| 15:14.32 | ajavid | oh |
| 15:14.40 | ajavid | oh yeh thas what that was |
| 15:14.42 | jelly | oxi: not from debian, from apache. |
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| 15:14.53 | linduxed1 | ajavid: i dont know if i asked you something but i prefer gdm |
| 15:14.57 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/gdmsetup' (1): (/usr/sbin/gdmsetup) in gnome/gdm. |
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| 15:15.00 | oxi | jelly: hmm, that's what I wanted to avoid |
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| 15:15.01 | ajavid | linduxed1, misfire |
| 15:15.07 | ajavid | linduxed1, I meant someone else, sorry |
| 15:15.10 | linduxed1 | ajavid: oh |
| 15:15.15 | abrotman | olivr: ask you can see .. Debian does have gdmsetup .. so it sounds like a freebsd problem |
| 15:15.34 | olivr | no no, gdm was rewritten because of security problems frçm scratch. |
| 15:15.41 | oxi | jelly: I fell like it's properly integrated in the package ( http://packages.debian.org/de/squeeze/all/tomcat6/filelist ) ... than if I'd do it myself |
| 15:15.45 | lord_rob | Hi ! Now that xorg requires no more xorg.conf, can I create a small xorg.conf with instructions for mouse mapping, the rest still being autodetected ? |
| 15:15.49 | jelly | oxi: we create a tomcat user and just use apache tarballs (oh, and sun's java tarballs too but that's less important) |
| 15:15.54 | ajavid | see |
| 15:15.55 | ajavid | wtf |
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| 15:16.02 | ajavid | how can yo usay it doesn't 'require' it |
| 15:16.03 | ajavid | ffs. |
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| 15:16.05 | olivr | in the latest gnome its its removed, but i just wanted to know what could replace gdm... kdm... what you poeple used. |
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| 15:16.27 | abrotman | olivr: please go to #freebsd for support |
| 15:16.31 | ajavid | lord_rob, yes you can |
| 15:16.37 | idimmu | xdm!! |
| 15:16.40 | olivr | arf. i have a debian too thats why im on both. |
| 15:16.41 | oxi | jelly: yeah, sure, but I feel like the debian package of squeeze is a little more properly streamlined |
| 15:16.46 | lord_rob | ok thanks ajavid |
| 15:16.47 | jelly | oxi: yeah, it's that integration that made me puzzled and lose interest in tomcat5 packaging. Our apps don't need tomcat6, so I don;t know about it |
| 15:16.56 | abrotman | but debian has gdmsetup .. freebsd does not |
| 15:16.57 | SparFux | Hi! Can I install iceweasel 3.0.11/unstable and 3.5.1/experimental at the same time on one system? |
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| 15:17.04 | zxd__ | "linux-image-2.6-xen-686 - Linux 2.6 image on i686, oldstyle Xen support" - is there a NEW style? |
| 15:17.05 | oxi | jelly: ok, I see, thanks for your info |
| 15:17.07 | ajavid | SparFux, yes |
| 15:17.16 | abrotman | SparFux: maybe if one is in a chroot |
| 15:17.21 | jelly | oxi: maybe it looks nicer and I'm feeding you crap, dunno. Caveat emptor. |
| 15:17.21 | olivr | abrotman, yeah ;) my question isn't about gdm setup but what could gdm be replaced with. |
| 15:17.23 | ajavid | SparFux, from experimental... not on the same system |
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| 15:17.33 | abrotman | olivr: and we have no idea what software is in freebsd .. go to #freebsd |
| 15:17.37 | ajavid | SparFux, you can however rebuilt the experimental pckage to work alongside |
| 15:17.41 | olivr | and anyhow i have gnome installed on my debian without gdmsetup |
| 15:17.42 | stew | jelly: so it seems we have an official replacement for snapshot.debian.net which is being updated, just not publicly accessible yet |
| 15:17.46 | olivr | and it was compiled frm source |
| 15:17.46 | felix_da_catz | So how can I test my internet connection during install? I hit alt-f2 and ping or ifconfig is not available. I just want to see if I have a link or not (I have four nics and I am not sure if I am connecting to the right one) |
| 15:17.54 | ajavid | SparFux, if you are unable to hack debs I would use deb of 3.0 and I would get 3.5 from upstream |
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| 15:18.01 | petemc | felix_da_catz: wget should be available |
| 15:18.05 | jelly | stew: that's very useful! To know, at least. |
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| 15:18.16 | the-dude | felix_da_catz: check dmesg? |
| 15:18.18 | ajavid | SparFux, launch with -P, for profile, create two profiles, one for 3.0, one for 3.5 |
| 15:18.24 | SparFux | ajavid: well, 3.5 is available in experimental. So, I would not have to hack it. |
| 15:18.38 | ajavid | yes you would. |
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| 15:18.47 | ajavid | more than likely you need to backprot xul for it to work on stable |
| 15:18.52 | ajavid | (since you m entioned 3.0) |
| 15:18.53 | SparFux | ajavid: I can use different users perhaps . Then I don't need profiles? |
| 15:18.56 | oxi | jelly: I should probably start to fiddle with own packages... |
| 15:19.07 | ajavid | SparFux, its better to use firefox -P |
| 15:19.12 | ajavid | man firefox |
| 15:19.33 | SparFux | Why do you think it's better to use firefox? |
| 15:19.38 | ajavid | I use amd64 Shiretoko 3.5.1pre nightly |
| 15:19.57 | ajavid | because you are on stable and that is an experimental package you can't install it just like that |
| 15:20.03 | ajavid | problems, potentially |
| 15:20.17 | SparFux | ajavid: I am on unstable and want this experimental package. |
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| 15:20.26 | ajavid | ok, go for it |
| 15:20.43 | felix_da_catz | thanks guys... wget is definitely not working (no route to host) but I have a default route setup correctly... Interface looks like it comes up with a connection... Must be my firewall. |
| 15:20.45 | ajavid | judd versions iceweasel |
| 15:20.45 | SparFux | ajavid: well, I think it's a better idea to use such a nightly build in a seperate directory with a different user though :-) |
| 15:20.45 | judd | ajavid: iceweasel -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1 etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1 lenny: 3.0.6-1 squeeze: 3.0.9-1 sid: 3.0.11-1 experimental: 3.5-1 |
| 15:21.05 | stew | jelly: when I was asking about what was happinging I was getting BS answers like "your question is based on an invalid precondition". So I gave up on asking about it |
| 15:21.06 | ajavid | doesn't ahve to be a diff user |
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| 15:21.41 | ajavid | SparFux, -P or diff user, whatever. Its more convenient to use profiles... but as you wish |
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| 15:22.04 | zxd__ | if UTF-8 is supposed to cover all language why are there still language specific UTF-8 files like UTF-8 |
| 15:22.12 | zxd__ | like en_US-UTF-8 |
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| 15:22.59 | ajavid | SparFux, I threw it into ~/bin/firefox and ~/bin is in $PATH, and #!/bin/bash \n /home/ajavid/bin/firefox/firefox -P (same with iceweasel -P) |
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| 15:23.11 | ajavid | SparFux, I pick the profile I want to use with each version |
| 15:23.15 | nkuttler | zxd__: which files are you talking about? and en_US != en_UK |
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| 15:23.17 | ajavid | SparFux, (keeps your settings seperte) |
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| 15:23.54 | NicoOOoOo_ | vive exalt :d |
| 15:24.08 | zxd__ | nkuttler, files in locales |
| 15:24.09 | ajavid | SparFux, it picks up all the plugins installed via debian pcakges, vlc, mplayer, adobe etc. etc. |
| 15:24.20 | giacomo | hello |
| 15:24.25 | SparFux | that's good. |
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| 15:24.39 | zxd__ | nkuttler, but isn't UTF-8 supposed to cover most languages why are there still country specific UTF-8 locales |
| 15:24.40 | SparFux | I am searching for the site to download shiretoko |
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| 15:24.49 | ajavid | are you amd64? |
| 15:24.51 | giacomo | do you know why the forein address of netstat -nt command isnt complete? |
| 15:24.54 | jelly | stew: thanks anyway. I might throw a question in #d-security channel in a week, when they forget about you having poked around. |
| 15:25.40 | nkuttler | zxd__: diff them |
| 15:26.13 | stew | jelly: no, this is not DSA as in security this is DSA as in admin |
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| 15:26.15 | SparFux | ajavid: yes, amd64 |
| 15:26.21 | jelly | stew: oh, then I won't. |
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| 15:29.45 | jackarutu | Can anyone enlighten me as to why the DVD ISO for ia64 doesn't contain the files nessary to boot it and install it? What is it I'm overlooking? |
| 15:29.54 | abrotman | jackarutu: on which CPU? |
| 15:30.04 | jackarutu | core 2 duo |
| 15:30.09 | abrotman | that's not ia64 |
| 15:30.19 | abrotman | you want either i386 or amd64 |
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| 15:31.01 | ajavid | SparFux, back. Sorry, morning ablutions.. you understand |
| 15:31.03 | jackarutu | silly me I was thinking amd meant AMD cpus |
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| 15:31.07 | jackarutu | thanks |
| 15:31.14 | ajavid | SparFux, mozilla shiretoko download is at ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/nightly/ |
| 15:31.40 | SparFux | ajavid: thx |
| 15:32.12 | Esto | damn. is there any comple debian manuals about configuring wifi network with wpa encryption from ap to clients ? |
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| 15:33.36 | Esto | all i can find or hostapd config or wpasupp, but noting working together |
| 15:33.57 | ajavid | SparFux, http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-trunk/ <- 3.6alpha1 pre release if you want |
| 15:34.10 | ajavid | firefox-3.6a1pre.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 |
| 15:34.14 | petemc | Esto: is your debian machine an access point? or just a client? |
| 15:34.37 | Esto | two machines: ap and client, both on debian |
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| 15:35.15 | petemc | oh |
| 15:35.38 | Esto | all i want just simple WORKING 'Node A'/'Node B' config sets |
| 15:36.52 | ajavid | SparFux, if you happen to find an addon that doesn't work with 3.6 but for 3.5, (if you decide to use 3.6 nihtly) you can just download the .xpi, unzip it (its a zip archive, edit Install.rdf and change the version string) |
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| 15:37.10 | ajavid | SparFux, and rezip it up |
| 15:37.35 | SparFux | ok. |
| 15:37.56 | ajavid | for further help you can join us in irc.mozilla.org #extdev |
| 15:37.57 | SparFux | It works. I just unpack firefox-3.5.2pre.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 and cd into new dir and run ./firefox :-) |
| 15:38.04 | ajavid | :) |
| 15:38.05 | SparFux | ajavid: ok. |
| 15:38.31 | ajavid | SparFux, http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/nightly/latest-mozilla-1.9.1/ |
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| 15:38.44 | ajavid | SparFux, this is where shiretoko 3.5.1pre amd64 is located (not 3.6) |
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| 15:39.34 | adb | ajavid: wrong channel for firefox support |
| 15:39.56 | ajavid | adb, pay attention to what you read dude. |
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| 15:40.46 | SparFux | ajavid: in irc.mozilla.org extdev I am RedFoX |
| 15:41.16 | ajavid | adb, I will help him install firefox in debian, even if you do not like it. 10:37 < ajavid> for further help you can join us in irc.mozilla.org #extdev <-- for specific firefox/extention support I already told him where to do. Once again, it would be wise to pay more attention to what you read. |
| 15:41.35 | ajavid | SparFux, see you there |
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| 15:49.01 | maxagaz_ | hi |
| 15:49.15 | maxagaz_ | usually, how should a ldap slave be updated ? |
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| 15:55.02 | JyZyGyZyX | what shitty day |
| 15:56.12 | ajavid | what?! |
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| 15:56.20 | ajavid | beautiful day outside |
| 15:56.25 | ajavid | beautiful day inside too :) |
| 15:56.47 | JyZyGyZyX | yea and just got huge dataloss |
| 15:56.52 | ajavid | if you feel shitty, go outside, look up at the sky, put a smile on your face and it will make you feel alright |
| 15:57.04 | ajavid | JyZyGyZyX, big bold yellow letters |
| 15:57.07 | JyZyGyZyX | managed to corrupt an encrypted container |
| 15:57.10 | ajavid | JyZyGyZyX, DON'T PANIC! |
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| 15:57.27 | JyZyGyZyX | no need to panic cause the game is already lost |
| 15:57.33 | ajavid | yup |
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| 15:57.48 | ajavid | now just 'disaster' recovery |
| 15:58.02 | ajavid | hopefully you have some backups in place |
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| 15:58.11 | JyZyGyZyX | yea no |
| 15:58.29 | ajavid | I did something stupid like it once, I had amachine with 7 years of 1 sid installation. One night few years ago i was high off my balls |
| 15:58.38 | ajavid | I logged into the wrong machine and reinstalled stable... |
| 15:58.46 | ajavid | Boy did THAT piss me off. |
| 15:59.05 | ajavid | I didn't have backups either. |
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| 16:00.04 | rgr | Zzzzz. |
| 16:00.35 | JyZyGyZyX | im feeling pissed and sad |
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| 16:00.53 | JyZyGyZyX | this is like the worst dataloss i've ever had |
| 16:01.03 | ajavid | :( I'm sorry dude |
| 16:01.10 | ajavid | it'll be alright |
| 16:01.10 | macrobat | im trying to startx on lenny and i dont know which nvidia pkg i should have. maybe nvidia-kernel-2.6-amd64 ? which pkg is which? :) |
| 16:01.12 | abrotman | JyZyGyZyX: do you have a Debian question about this? |
| 16:01.26 | ajavid | macrobat, uhm.. /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 16:01.28 | nooper | JyZyGyZyX: how'd you do it? |
| 16:01.30 | ajavid | macrobat, did you install the drivers? |
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| 16:02.11 | macrobat | i think so... |
| 16:02.31 | macrobat | im not sure, ther are a couple of pkgs |
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| 16:02.54 | ajavid | macrobat, msg the bot like I said |
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| 16:03.38 | macrobat | reading... |
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| 16:06.54 | riot | i'm trying to run some daemon on port 80, but it can't open that privileged port; What rights or modifications are necessary so that it works? |
| 16:07.06 | ajavid | root |
| 16:07.23 | riot | only the root-account can open privileged ports? |
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| 16:07.26 | ajavid | what daemon are you trying to run? how are you trying to run it? was it packaged in debian? |
| 16:07.41 | riot | no, its not packaged. I'm trying to run openerp-web |
| 16:07.53 | ajavid | never heard of it |
| 16:07.53 | \amethyst | riot: only root can listen on privileged ports, yes |
| 16:08.04 | riot | comes with an init.d and is a cherrypy-script |
| 16:08.24 | \amethyst | riot: the init.d script should probably, as most init.d scripts, be run as root |
| 16:08.36 | felix_da_catz | How can I tell which nick has a link or not? |
| 16:09.01 | riot | \amethyst: yes, esp. when i'm starting it manually, but it seems to drop rights too early or something |
| 16:09.09 | SPF | riot: what you also could do is chmod 4755 <program> so that the program has root privileges |
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| 16:09.24 | felix_da_catz | UP BROADCAST MULTICAST are the three things that are showing up with ifconfig -a |
| 16:09.55 | \amethyst | don't go making programs setuid that aren't intended to be |
| 16:10.34 | \amethyst | it's very dangerous... there's probably a way of configuring the web server so that it overwrites an arbitrary file with arbitrary data |
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| 16:10.40 | riot | yep. |
| 16:10.43 | aliceinwire | checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! |
| 16:10.49 | aliceinwire | what libraries ? |
| 16:10.50 | riot | especially since its a python script. |
| 16:11.08 | riot | i'm gonna ask the guys from openerp.. |
| 16:11.23 | riot | another way would be proxying through apache.. |
| 16:11.25 | \amethyst | riot: you could bind it to a different port and use something else to do the forwarding |
| 16:11.29 | \amethyst | yeah |
| 16:11.58 | riot | \amethyst: they even have a guide how to enable ssl via forwarding through apache, but its quite some work and i wanted some fast results to show off ;) |
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| 16:16.04 | g00se | aliceinwire: Do you have X installed? |
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| 16:17.00 | rhineheart_m | I need a suggesti0n here on what apps to use with debian to stream movies in the LAN using http |
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| 16:19.16 | ajavid | vlc |
| 16:19.25 | ajavid | rhineheart_m, vlc |
| 16:19.33 | rhineheart_m | vlc server? |
| 16:19.59 | ajavid | http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/29/how-to-stream-almost-anything-using-vlc/ |
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| 16:20.25 | ajavid | http://www.videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/en/streaming-howto-en.html |
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| 16:21.19 | aliceinwire | what x lib dev i have to install ? |
| 16:21.43 | ajavid | aliceinwire, what are you trying to build? |
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| 16:21.53 | aliceinwire | kdeteatime |
| 16:22.03 | ajavid | aliceinwire, sudo apt-get build-dep kdeteatime |
| 16:22.27 | rhineheart_m | thanks ajavid |
| 16:22.32 | ajavid | np |
| 16:22.35 | rhineheart_m | I hope I could run it |
| 16:22.35 | rhineheart_m | ;) |
| 16:22.40 | ajavid | its easy |
| 16:22.56 | rhineheart_m | http://www.howtoforge.com/video_streaming_lighttpd_flowplayer |
| 16:23.03 | rhineheart_m | do you think that's a good how to? |
| 16:23.07 | ajavid | no idea |
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| 16:24.31 | ajavid | I can't comment on anything I've not used (lighttpd/flowplayeR) |
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| 16:24.41 | rhineheart_m | I jus want to create something like this: http://www.watch-movies-links.net/movies/blood_the_last_vampire/ |
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| 16:25.04 | rhineheart_m | like this: http://www.novamov.com/video/0jj7ob4o3hgwr |
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| 16:25.18 | ajavid | huge project |
| 16:25.22 | ajavid | lots of money in it |
| 16:25.36 | ajavid | you need a full development team ( i doubt you can do something as huge as yourself ) |
| 16:25.45 | ajavid | by yourself* |
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| 16:25.50 | ajavid | unless I completely misunderstood you |
| 16:25.59 | ajavid | for this you shouldn't be streaming with vlc |
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| 16:26.38 | ajavid | rhineheart_m, you want to be one of the movie hosts or one of the movie spiders? |
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| 16:26.47 | ajavid | anyway, this is not debian related anymore I don't think |
| 16:26.51 | ajavid | rhineheart_m, join #web |
| 16:26.56 | abrotman | since when does that stop you? |
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| 16:27.02 | rhineheart_m | ajavid, just for local use |
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| 16:27.07 | rhineheart_m | thanks anyway ajavid |
| 16:27.09 | rhineheart_m | :) |
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| 16:27.17 | ajavid | abrotman, not in the mood. Kindly get the fuck off my dick. |
| 16:27.29 | ajavid | fucking instigating shit. Just grow up man. |
| 16:27.30 | ajavid | ffs. |
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| 16:28.09 | stew | ajavid: take 10 minutes to improve your mood instead then |
| 16:28.10 | dutchfish | can someone explain why there no kde as task in tasksel (debian amd64 squeeze)? |
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| 16:29.20 | stew | dutchfish: there are kde tasks in aptitude iirc |
| 16:29.36 | stew | dutchfish: (not that it answers your question, but it might make you not care about your question) |
| 16:29.41 | dutchfish | stew, i have looke din aptitude, but no |
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| 16:29.58 | stew | oh, hmm |
| 16:30.09 | woshty | hat sich in 6.30 gegenüber 6.28 irgendetwas getan, das man unbedingt konfigurieren will? |
| 16:30.17 | g00se | !de |
| 16:30.18 | dpkg | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 16:30.22 | rhineheart_m | stew, is lenny now in KVM? |
| 16:30.25 | woshty | sry, rong kannel |
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| 16:30.41 | stew | rhineheart_m: what do you mean by "in KVM"? |
| 16:30.42 | dutchfish | stew, while the are only virtual packages like kde-full, kde and kde-minimal |
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| 16:31.42 | stew | dutchfish: well, the desktop task isn't specific to any one DE, so perhaps "aptitude install kde ; tasksel install desktop" gets you where you want to be? |
| 16:32.19 | stew | dutchfish: the desktop task installs desktop-base which can be satisfied by multiple DEs |
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| 16:32.48 | dutchfish | stew, almost, but i am shooting images, without aptitude (dbootstrap) and tasksel is there not aptitude (at that point), aptitud isnt in base |
| 16:32.49 | JyZyGyZyX | if you overwrite a file on ext3 does it overwrite the old data? |
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| 16:33.13 | dutchfish | s/aptitud/aptitude |
| 16:33.36 | stew | JyZyGyZyX: what operations are you using to overwrite a file? |
| 16:34.19 | stew | dutchfish: you can always provide your own tasks to tasksel |
| 16:34.32 | JyZyGyZyX | stew: well echo "hello world" > file; echo "overwritten" > file |
| 16:34.42 | JyZyGyZyX | is it possible the "hello world" still exists somewhere? |
| 16:35.05 | dutchfish | stew, i only can find Gnome, Graphical envirenment, LXDE, Laptop, Xfce (end user tasks) |
| 16:35.15 | dutchfish | stew, ow, can it? |
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| 16:35.44 | dutchfish | stew, any link or hint, that would surely solve my problem |
| 16:35.47 | stew | JyZyGyZyX: no, afaik, you've overwritten it |
| 16:36.16 | JyZyGyZyX | happen to know anything about time travel backwards? |
| 16:36.20 | stew | dutchfish: you can drop *.desc files into /usr/local/share/tasksel |
| 16:36.34 | dutchfish | stew, very cool, thank you much Sir |
| 16:36.49 | stew | JyZyGyZyX: the larger you are, the harder it is. try to be an elementary particle |
| 16:37.01 | JyZyGyZyX | i see |
| 16:37.09 | stew | JyZyGyZyX: perhaps your backups can help |
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| 16:37.29 | JyZyGyZyX | stew: no i think im gonna have to go get lots of alcohol |
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| 16:38.41 | dutchfish | stew, works smooth as silk, thanks again |
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| 16:39.28 | ajavid | it is currently impossible, regardless of the particle size. He has no backups. |
| 16:39.34 | keika | Can i access to system tray with keyboard without mouse emulation? |
| 16:39.40 | ajavid | JyZyGyZyX, why do not have backups? :( |
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| 16:41.24 | ajavid | keika, which DE? WM? |
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| 16:43.12 | riot | is there a comfy way to generate a new apache2-ssl cert? |
| 16:43.20 | abrotman | make-ssl-cert |
| 16:43.56 | riot | i tried that but didn't work, now i see: weird. my shell just didn't have that in its path yet |
| 16:44.03 | riot | i wondered... |
| 16:44.05 | riot | thanks |
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| 16:53.49 | fahad | Hi, I am having problems with apache config. I've left ErrorLog set to /var/log/apache2/error.log in the apache.conf and then in a VHost config file in I have set it to something else. Everything works fine for static pages but for scripts the errors end up in the main server log and not in the Vhost's error log. Any clues? |
| 16:54.31 | asg | fahad: #apache may also be of some assistance |
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| 16:54.44 | Cyrsss | Hi lads |
| 16:54.47 | fahad | thanks. |
| 16:54.58 | Cyrsss | anyone actually managed to get the wireless working on an MSI Wind U100 and Debian 5.0 ?? |
| 16:55.02 | Cyrsss | having major issues :S |
| 16:55.10 | Cyrsss | looked all over the net and cant find much info |
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| 16:56.18 | dutchfish | fahad, look at the phrase CustomLog /path/foo Combined in your vhost def's |
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| 16:56.40 | RSD | Hi lads |
| 16:56.42 | RSD | anyone actually managed to get the wireless working on an MSI Wind U100 and Debian 5.0 ?? |
| 16:56.45 | RSD | looked all over the net and cant find much info |
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| 16:56.53 | chrsv | Have you looked at ndiswrapper? |
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| 16:57.00 | RSD | no I havent |
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| 16:57.03 | RSD | hold on ill google it :) |
| 16:57.23 | rysiek|pl | guys, what would be the best path to take to set-up a quick-and-dirty (only for a single account) autoresponder with exim4 on Debian? |
| 16:57.39 | RSD | chrsv another thing is there any way I can tell my debian box to get the IP info from the router? |
| 16:57.48 | RSD | in windows you do ipconfig /release |
| 16:57.53 | RSD | then ipconfig /renew |
| 16:57.55 | RSD | in linux..? |
| 16:58.18 | chrsv | dhclient should ask for an IP |
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| 16:59.17 | dutchfish | rysiek|pl, http://wiki.exim.org/EximAutoReply |
| 16:59.30 | rysiek|pl | dutchfish: thanks a lot |
| 16:59.47 | rysiek|pl | should've thought about searching the exim wiki... *facepalm* |
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| 16:59.58 | dddd | sorry guys |
| 17:00.00 | dddd | its RSD |
| 17:00.02 | dddd | i timed out |
| 17:00.04 | dddd | :S |
| 17:00.06 | dddd | chrsv any clues? |
| 17:00.33 | chrsv | clues on what? you timing out? |
| 17:00.41 | dddd | no |
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| 17:00.48 | chrsv | to ask a dhcp server for an IP type 'dhclient' |
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| 17:01.18 | dddd | thank you |
| 17:01.19 | dddd | :) |
| 17:01.21 | dddd | lets see if it works |
| 17:02.19 | dddd | no DHCPOFFERS received :S |
| 17:02.23 | g00se | RSD: There's a wireless driver here :http://eu.msi.com/index.php?func=driverfile&dno=6922&i=0 |
| 17:02.27 | dddd | no working leases in persistent database |
| 17:02.42 | chrsv | seems to be a problem with your dhcp server |
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| 17:03.15 | dddd | omg fuck me... thank you soo much!! i must have been looking at older posts on the forums!!! |
| 17:03.18 | dddd | Thank you! |
| 17:03.24 | dddd | chrsv i think i know what it is :) |
| 17:03.29 | chrsv | :) |
| 17:03.29 | dddd | going to disconnect for a while be back :P |
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| 17:05.08 | rgr | pasted "Help needed removing aptitude errors - emacs-snapshot" at http://paste2.org/p/337649 |
| 17:05.30 | rgr | I asked earlier but went offline and missed any replies. Can someone please guide me on how to determine the issue with my update/upgrade i the paste I linked to. |
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| 17:09.20 | mnuhmnuh | rgr: what's in /tmp/emacs-snapshot.TzbvKF and /tmp/emacs-snapshot.oByMeu ? |
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| 17:14.44 | enouf | ajavid: don't be such a wiseass sometimes - thanks ;-) |
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| 17:14.56 | caraconan | Hi. Now I'm not able to send attachments with mutt: echo "My mail content" | mutt -s "My mail subject" -a /path/to/attachment.txt destination@domain.com |
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| 17:16.33 | caraconan | http://pastebin.com/m30b9f8da |
| 17:16.33 | caraconan | Some help? Thanks |
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| 17:16.33 | caraconan | In the past it works... |
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| 17:17.45 | jorgp | can someone help me with X and unstable.. I changed video cards and now X does not work, I ran dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg, but it did not help, X loads and then locks the system |
| 17:18.03 | nan8 | anybody using mobile internet via simply data in germany? if yes - do you use the "driver" included on the usb umts stick? or is ther some information available to get away with AT commands? |
| 17:18.28 | nkuttler | jorgp: try the vesa driver |
| 17:19.07 | jorgp | nkuttler: not sure how to do that |
| 17:19.08 | mnuhmnuh | caraconan: why are you attaching and piping it in as well? |
| 17:19.16 | nkuttler | jorgp: exit your xorg.conf |
| 17:19.17 | enouf | caraconan: tried #mutt? no idea offhand |
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| 17:19.27 | nkuttler | jorgp: edit even |
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| 17:19.37 | jorgp | nkuttler: ok |
| 17:19.48 | enouf | but destination@domain.com seems unreachable or invalid |
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| 17:20.14 | enouf | mnuhmnuh: right - you saw that too? |
| 17:20.22 | caraconan | <mnuhmnuh> I simply post the two ways I know |
| 17:20.35 | caraconan | The two ways fail with same error |
| 17:20.42 | enouf | strace |
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| 17:21.09 | enouf | caraconan: can you mail without attachemnts to test? |
| 17:21.21 | enouf | did your MTA go tits up? |
| 17:21.29 | mnuhmnuh | caraconan: i suspect you need to fix SMTP. |
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| 17:21.39 | enouf | SmartHost died? |
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| 17:21.54 | caraconan | No, I just receive a mail without attachments... |
| 17:22.12 | caraconan | I'm absolutely sure that smtp relay works |
| 17:24.00 | enouf | jorgp: from what to what? disable your onboard video for time being? drxx doesn't do a proper config anymore, it's all autoconfig -- grep drv /var/log/xorg.0.log or pastebin the whole of it |
| 17:24.11 | caraconan | [FIXED] http://pastebin.com/m62a0e20c |
| 17:24.15 | caraconan | Thanks to all |
| 17:24.41 | enouf | jorgp: were you using proprietary drivers with old card? what's loading from /etc/modules and /etc/modprobe.d/* ? |
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| 17:26.08 | mnuhmnuh | caraconan: you're still doing it *both* ways. use -a file OR < file. |
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| 17:26.32 | fxiny | 'cat file1 file2 ... | mail ... |
| 17:26.46 | g00se | caraconan: You seem to have two commands there ... |
| 17:27.11 | caraconan | No, it works sure. Look at that: |
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| 17:27.39 | caraconan | echo "My mail contente" | mutt my_destination@domain.com -a /path/to/attachment.txt -s "Subject" |
| 17:27.59 | enouf | yeah, just syntax intolerance then |
| 17:28.07 | fxiny | 'cat file1 file2 file3 | mail -s "subject" -s Test addr@ess' |
| 17:28.21 | fxiny | leave mutt alone :P |
| 17:28.27 | enouf | haha fxiny !! |
| 17:28.29 | jelly | fxiny: attachments rule. |
| 17:28.31 | fxiny | enouf: :) |
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| 17:28.42 | fxiny | jelly: i am a mutt servant :P |
| 17:28.52 | jelly | fxiny: two subjects in your mail! |
| 17:28.54 | enouf | jelly: i love the HTML versioned ones that people send to linux-* mailing lists! |
| 17:29.10 | jorgp | enouf: no, just using an old card... dmesg says its a via twister-K/KT133x/KM133 |
| 17:29.20 | jelly | enouf: I only read those via http:// anyway |
| 17:29.21 | fxiny | jelly: two ? i see one |
| 17:29.25 | enouf | jorgp: what was the last one? |
| 17:29.27 | tuxcrafter | hi all, what part of my debian unstable update of the last few days is causing my system to be so slow responsive :D |
| 17:29.34 | fxiny | jelly: ahjhh two -s ? ok |
| 17:29.38 | enouf | jelly: still -- nasty ... |
| 17:29.52 | jorgp | enouf: dmesg says its a via twister-K/KT133x/KM133 |
| 17:30.03 | enouf | jorgp: lspci -nn | grep VGA says? |
| 17:30.07 | jelly | enouf: we often get "changes are in blue" from vendors and similar |
| 17:30.13 | enouf | jorgp: what was the last one? not the present one! |
| 17:30.17 | caraconan | Thanks to all, guys |
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| 17:31.05 | enouf | jelly: syntax highlighting ... nice .. i suppose for certain things |
| 17:31.38 | jorgp | enouf: ati rage 128 PF/PRO agp 4x TMDS [1002:5046] |
| 17:32.06 | enouf | jorgp: ok - so, now you can pastebin all the other info we asked for ... |
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| 17:32.16 | jelly | enouf: what syntax! Their English ranges from appalling to adequate... |
| 17:32.29 | owen1 | my clock is not correct. how to sync it? |
| 17:32.37 | enouf | !confuse jelly |
| 17:32.37 | dpkg | Yes, how was my gerbil yesterday, jelly? Shirts of the People's Republic of Mongolia with extra herring. |
| 17:32.38 | jorgp | enouf: I can not, its a different machine and i have no way of doing that |
| 17:32.40 | SPF | owen1: ntpdate |
| 17:32.46 | fxiny | enouf: hahaah |
| 17:32.49 | macrobat | will menu-xdg change my xfce4 menu? |
| 17:32.55 | fxiny | jelly: :P |
| 17:32.56 | mnuhmnuh | owen1: ntp |
| 17:33.00 | enouf | jorgp: sure you can ... is it networked at all? |
| 17:33.07 | jorgp | yes |
| 17:33.12 | enouf | then send it |
| 17:33.18 | enouf | !pastebin pipe |
| 17:33.18 | dpkg | Download http://pastebin.ca/download/paste2pastebin.pl and install libwww-mechanize-perl. Then pipe your output to perl paste2pastebin.pl. You can also "aptitude install pastebinit" if you are on Lenny or later (ask me about <pastebinit>). Upload a file to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php pipe to "nc paste.dyndns.org 1234". |
| 17:33.26 | SPF | owen1: ntpdate 0.debian.pool.ntp.org |
| 17:33.42 | jelly | jorgp: does r128 driver not work? |
| 17:33.57 | jorgp | i will try it |
| 17:34.04 | enouf | jelly: i _think_ he had that one, now using jorgp> enouf: dmesg says its a via twister-K/KT133x/KM133 |
| 17:34.29 | enouf | whatever load of crap that is ... |
| 17:34.50 | enouf | it's a older 133 chipset though - that's for sure :-p |
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| 17:35.20 | jorgp | no, r128 locks the machine |
| 17:35.34 | jelly | enouf: that's the motherboard; "ati rage 128 PF/PRO agp 4x TMDS [1002:5046]" is the graphics |
| 17:35.35 | jorgp | and vesa does not display anything |
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| 17:35.50 | jelly | jorgp: you're SOL, fall back to older xorg |
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| 17:36.13 | Spaghetti-code | high |
| 17:36.13 | abrotman | use vesa ? |
| 17:36.27 | jelly | jorgp: does it really hang the machine, no answer to ping? sysrq not working? |
| 17:36.45 | Spaghetti-code | vesa local bus? |
| 17:37.17 | jelly | jorgp: is the framebuffer console enabled at boot? if it is, try disabling that first. |
| 17:37.19 | jorgp | jelly: yes, trying a different card |
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| 17:38.47 | jelly | has an oldish geforce 7100 in reserve if things decide to stop working |
| 17:39.23 | jelly | jorgp: framebuffer drivers make X cry a little. |
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| 17:41.48 | Ricky_RocK | when i write cp -Rp * /dir/of/copy/ it not copying .htaccess files why ? |
| 17:42.04 | fxiny | enouf : ati rage 128 is pretty modern and advanced , mine is a mach64 rage , but pro ;) |
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| 17:47.12 | NicoOOoOo | personne ne joue a faire d screenshots de son bureau ? et me le montrerai ? |
| 17:47.21 | nkuttler | !fr |
| 17:47.22 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net. |
| 17:47.32 | pozic | After a reboot, the root fsck failed. It tells me to input the admin password, which I did and then ran the fsck.ext3 -v /dev/sdb1 manually, but it says it's ok. Then after a reboot it says the root file system is not OK. Help? |
| 17:47.55 | Cyrsss | hi lads |
| 17:47.55 | Cyrsss | :) |
| 17:47.58 | Cyrsss | got my net stable at last |
| 17:47.59 | Cyrsss | :) |
| 17:48.17 | g00se | Godo |
| 17:48.22 | g00se | Good even |
| 17:48.34 | fxiny | pozic: fsck.ext3 -vf ? |
| 17:49.09 | Cyrsss | the drive for my laptop MSI Wind U100 it states "Linux: For SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 10 SP1 only." |
| 17:49.10 | Cyrsss | :S |
| 17:49.24 | maligor | heh |
| 17:49.32 | pozic | fxiny: yes, also tried that. |
| 17:49.33 | maligor | Maybe it explodes if you install debian |
| 17:49.39 | pozic | fxiny: it says it's OK. |
| 17:49.50 | Cyrsss | ok to still try and install on debian? |
| 17:50.11 | pozic | fxiny: basically the problem is that it seems that whatever program calls fsck.ext3 with the wrong arguments. |
| 17:50.13 | maligor | Cyrsss, they probably mean they only support running suse on it |
| 17:50.24 | pozic | fxiny: it calls it with an option -a none, which doesn't seem to exists. |
| 17:50.27 | pozic | exist* |
| 17:50.35 | Cyrsss | ahh ok |
| 17:50.48 | Cyrsss | mmm |
| 17:50.51 | fxiny | pozic: -a -CO ? |
| 17:50.53 | pozic | fxiny: so, the whole thing is fsck.ext3 -a none -C0 /dev/sdb1 |
| 17:50.55 | Cyrsss | unzip xxxx.zip does not work? |
| 17:51.02 | pozic | fxiny: exactly like above. |
| 17:51.16 | pozic | fxiny: if I run that manually, I get a usage message. |
| 17:51.27 | Cyrsss | ;P |
| 17:51.30 | pozic | fxiny: so, it appears someone f*cked up. |
| 17:51.31 | Cyrsss | install unzip package lol |
| 17:52.02 | tempuser | to anyone who was here earlier and saw my post on the libnss-ldap issues: i found the issue to be with the libnss-ldap package. it wasnt backwards compatible with my TLS setup. no encryption would work, but with tls, it simple would friggn work and i realy have no idea why. i do know that replacing libnss-ldap with libnss-ldapd resolved my issues. |
| 17:52.42 | pozic | So, if there would be a way to disable the program which calls the fsck, I could repair it. |
| 17:52.56 | enouf | tempuser: excellent - now, anything on BTS you could perhaps amend, or ... file a new one? |
| 17:52.58 | pozic | I am pretty sure there is nothing wrong with my rootfs. |
| 17:52.59 | tempuser | this issue poped up after the upgrade from etch->lenny and i imagine it has to do with gnutls |
| 17:53.33 | pozic | So, how can I disable the file system checks at least temporarily. |
| 17:53.46 | tempuser | i can, as soon as i finger out how to file a bug or search for an existing bug ;) |
| 17:54.10 | tempuser | enouf: http://bugs.debian.org? |
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| 17:54.33 | tempuser | nm |
| 17:54.39 | tempuser | bot to the resce |
| 17:54.46 | enouf | tempuser: thanks .. btw, while i was poking about earlier, i found some things gnutls-openssl related .. one sec, perhaps they were -dev pkgs as well |
| 17:54.55 | fxiny | pozic : tune2fs ? |
| 17:54.57 | enouf | tempuser: /msg dpkg reportbug |
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| 17:55.16 | enouf | fxiny: reiserfstune! |
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| 17:55.32 | Cyrsss | man the fucking wonders of google :p |
| 17:55.34 | fxiny | enouf: reiser ? |
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| 17:55.39 | fxiny | pozic: resiser ? |
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| 17:55.52 | pozic | fxiny: no, ext3 |
| 17:56.04 | xsamurai | im getting temporary crontab no longer owned by you |
| 17:56.09 | xsamurai | anybody see this error before |
| 17:56.10 | xsamurai | ? |
| 17:56.18 | jorgp | thanks everyone, got it to work, tried 5 different video cards, of course 5th worked perfectly |
| 17:56.30 | Spaghetti-code | e4defrag i cannot execute it |
| 17:56.31 | xsamurai | i can list my jobs with -l but i cant seem to edit them |
| 17:56.33 | xsamurai | or save them |
| 17:56.57 | fxiny | defrag ? wt4x ! |
| 17:56.59 | abrotman | Spaghetti-code: why not? |
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| 17:57.14 | enouf | tempuser: stuff like libgnutls13: /usr/lib/libgnutls-openssl.so.13.8.4 and libgnutls26: /usr/lib/libgnutls-openssl.so.26.11.7 and libgnutls-dev: /usr/include/gnutls/openssl.h .. but ok |
| 17:57.44 | justin | xsamurai: ls -la /var/spool/cron/cronjobs |
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| 17:58.18 | Spaghetti-code | its not installed |
| 17:58.27 | Spaghetti-code | i use kernel 2.6.30 |
| 17:58.43 | tempuser | enouf: reportbug -- wow, what a novel app |
| 17:58.46 | Spaghetti-code | e2fstools should contain the e4defrag afaik |
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| 17:59.02 | enouf | Spaghetti-code: which version of e2fstools? |
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| 17:59.15 | enouf | it's e2fsprogs |
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| 17:59.57 | Spaghetti-code | ok |
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| 18:00.00 | Spaghetti-code | i check it |
| 18:00.03 | xsamurai | justin: i dont see a cronjobs folder , i see a crontabs folder which has drwx-wx--T permissions on it for root:crontab |
| 18:00.20 | justin | xsamurai: oh yeah, taht |
| 18:00.34 | justin | xsamurai: what about the file in it? |
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| 18:00.54 | donald | pozic: have a look at tune2fs |
| 18:01.40 | xsamurai | file in it is opened is only for root and a user |
| 18:01.42 | Titan8990_ | is there any danger is copying a regular user's .bashrc to roots? |
| 18:01.44 | pozic | donald: I already did. I will now start it from my Knoppix rescue CD. |
| 18:01.46 | xsamurai | user file is owned by crontab:crontab |
| 18:01.49 | pozic | donald: 16 - Usage or syntax error |
| 18:01.51 | xsamurai | root ofcourse is root:root |
| 18:02.02 | pozic | donald: some debian script starts fsck in the wrong way. |
| 18:02.19 | enouf | Titan8990_: not that i'm aware of, just make it as sparse as possible at first |
| 18:02.26 | justin | xsamurai: it should be user:crontab |
| 18:02.38 | Spaghetti-code | its 1.41-8 |
| 18:03.03 | Titan8990_ | enouf, thanks |
| 18:03.13 | enouf | Titan8990_: or just comment out the things you are unsure about |
| 18:03.19 | enouf | np |
| 18:03.35 | pozic | Can anyone tell me which program decides that the root file system might or might not be checked? I know that with tune2fs you can, well, tune it, but I would like to see the real script which starts fsck. |
| 18:03.48 | xsamurai | that didnt help either |
| 18:04.04 | Titan8990_ | enouf, honestly, i just wanted ls to return colors and didn't want to spend the time to look through it... if I was at home and not at work I would have looked through |
| 18:04.06 | enouf | pozic: /etc/init.d/checkroot or something |
| 18:04.17 | enouf | pozic: rgrep fsck //etc/init.d/ |
| 18:04.18 | Titan8990_ | enouf, but copying did it and I made a backup just in case |
| 18:04.25 | pozic | enouf: yes, then it is checkroot.sh |
| 18:04.33 | enouf | ok |
| 18:05.05 | Cain | how to remove safety (& completly) a package installed with aptitude ? (aptitude remove pack will be enough ?)) |
| 18:05.06 | xsamurai | justin: still get this error "crontab.eyE4e8/crontab" E212: Can't open file for writing |
| 18:05.21 | fxiny | Cain: purge |
| 18:05.31 | donald | Cain: to remove also config files try --purge |
| 18:05.59 | Cain | aptitude remove pack --purge ? |
| 18:06.08 | justin | xsamurai: i think your /tmp is broke too |
| 18:06.11 | enouf | donald: apt-get uses --purge syntax; aptitude uses purge, which also removes |
| 18:06.15 | enouf | IINM |
| 18:06.19 | mnuhmnuh | pozic: checkfs.sh checkroot.sh mountall-bootclean.sh mountall.sh mountkernfs.sh ... all /etc/init.d |
| 18:06.20 | xsamurai | seems like it |
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| 18:07.18 | pozic | How cool is that: that what happens is impossible according to the code, on a quick reading. |
| 18:07.30 | enouf | xsamurai: /tmp should be 1777 IIRC |
| 18:07.40 | enouf | Access: (1777/drwxrwxrwt) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root) |
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| 18:08.06 | pozic | Unless someone can explain me how -a none gets generated as an option in this script: /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh |
| 18:08.14 | xsamurai | the temp directory cron creates has the permission 700 root:user and the crontab file in the directory has the permission |
| 18:08.15 | xsamurai | setup |
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| 18:08.21 | pozic | It does say -a -t <sometype> |
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| 18:08.42 | xsamurai | enouf: yes tmp is 777 |
| 18:08.47 | enouf | pozic: there's a setting in /etc/default/rcS |
| 18:08.57 | enouf | xsamurai: no, 1777 ;-) |
| 18:09.11 | kdorf | can anyone offer words of experience using debian unstable on a home machine? primarily doing this to have up-to-date packages and a 'rolling-release' style distro. I am a pretty smart user and I can fix problems from time to time if they pop up, but I'd rather not spend all my time troubleshooting. |
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| 18:09.18 | linduxed | whats the difference between a system group and a user group? |
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| 18:11.28 | Cyrsss | lads |
| 18:11.32 | Cyrsss | for some reason my debian isnt updating :S |
| 18:11.36 | Cyrsss | im doing apt-get update |
| 18:11.39 | Cyrsss | which goes through the list |
| 18:11.46 | Cyrsss | but when I go to update manager I see 19 updates |
| 18:11.51 | Cyrsss | everytime I click install updates |
| 18:11.53 | Cyrsss | nothing happens :S |
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| 18:12.12 | kdorf | Cyrusss: did you try apt-get upgrade? |
| 18:12.13 | maxdemian81 | do it from the command line |
| 18:12.21 | maxdemian81 | and then run apt-get upgrade |
| 18:12.35 | Cyrsss | ok hold on :) |
| 18:12.41 | Cyrsss | yep apt-get upgrade is working |
| 18:12.46 | Cyrsss | its odd :S |
| 18:12.47 | maxdemian81 | cool |
| 18:12.56 | maxdemian81 | apt-get update refreshes the list |
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| 18:13.03 | Cyrsss | ahh i see |
| 18:13.21 | maxdemian81 | if you ever break a package running the upgrade will often fix it |
| 18:13.32 | Cyrsss | and how can i upgrade the kernal then? |
| 18:13.44 | maxdemian81 | thats a whole different story |
| 18:14.00 | maxdemian81 | what version you running |
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| 18:14.08 | abrotman | Cyrsss: update-manager lies a lot |
| 18:14.11 | kdorf | install an updated linux-image package |
| 18:14.46 | pozic | enouf: I do not see how any of those settings will help me. |
| 18:14.52 | fxiny | abrotman: no more bonuses ? |
| 18:14.54 | Cyrsss | kdorf as in re-install ? |
| 18:14.58 | xsamurai | sorry back, enouf: i have the same flags as well Access: (1777/drwxrwxrwt) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root) |
| 18:15.01 | pozic | I am currently doing the fsck via Knoppix. |
| 18:15.25 | enouf | pozic: i don;t even know what your issue is .. i'm just answering questions |
| 18:15.29 | kdorf | Cyrsss: `aptitude search linux-image`, find the one that fits your arch and is the version you want |
| 18:15.40 | pozic | It only appears that the rootfs label in Knoppix is not the same one Debian thinks is the rootfs. |
| 18:15.59 | pozic | OTOH, it does boot. |
| 18:16.13 | xsamurai | http://dpaste.com/70547/ |
| 18:16.26 | pozic | Which brings us to the question: why does it boot if it cannot read the root fs? |
| 18:16.32 | enouf | pozic: did you chroot prior? |
| 18:16.51 | pozic | enouf: no, but there is no need to that AFAIK. |
| 18:16.53 | enouf | what boots? knoppix? it's a livecd ffs |
| 18:16.55 | fxiny | pozic: it boots because it resets the count , perhaps ? |
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| 18:17.02 | pozic | enouf: no, Debian. |
| 18:17.08 | pozic | enouf: Knoppix boots completely. |
| 18:17.25 | Cyrsss | i see ok thanks lads :) |
| 18:18.15 | pozic | Stupid machines with their stupid maintenance requirements :( |
| 18:18.30 | fxiny | so the question is : where's the fsck count db ? |
| 18:18.54 | fxiny | is any |
| 18:18.57 | fxiny | if* |
| 18:19.01 | pozic | fxiny: yes, that might help me to skip one of those checks. |
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| 18:19.26 | pozic | fxiny: I think it is stored on the rootfs, which is of course mounted ro. |
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| 18:19.40 | pozic | fxiny: so, setting the flag with Knoppix should work then. |
| 18:19.47 | PuppetMaster_ | How can I disable the auth.log? |
| 18:19.55 | enouf | it's stored in the FS superblock, IINM, which is why tune2fs helps set that |
| 18:20.08 | pozic | enouf: yes, that makes more sense. |
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| 18:20.45 | fxiny | pozic: mount it ? |
| 18:20.45 | enouf | pozic: in order to use tune2fs, use chroot with knoppix to affect your Debian |
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| 18:20.52 | tempuser | enouf: bug found. i appended my $.02 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425379 |
| 18:21.09 | enouf | tempuser: !bravo ... thanks |
| 18:21.18 | pozic | enouf: why cannot I just do fsck.ext3 <file system as seen by Knoppix and inspected to be the right one>? |
| 18:21.23 | pozic | enouf: that's what I am doing now. |
| 18:21.27 | xsamurai | cron binary had the wrong flag settings |
| 18:21.27 | pozic | No need for chroot. |
| 18:21.35 | xsamurai | odd though because i dont remember making a change to it |
| 18:22.01 | tempuser | enouf: is there a delay before updates get posted to the bts? |
| 18:22.21 | enouf | tempuser: yes .. i forget how long, but no longer than 1 day, IIRC |
| 18:22.37 | tempuser | enouf: never mind. i was just a little too impatient. my updates have been posted. |
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| 18:22.43 | enouf | ;-) |
| 18:23.09 | fxiny | pozic: are you fsck.ext3 a mounted device ? |
| 18:23.44 | enouf | pozic: yes there is a reason for chroot -- *not* to perform a fsck on your debian /, but to affect tune2fs params |
| 18:24.11 | fxiny | ahhh still editing tune2fs params ? ok |
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| 18:26.11 | drewby | what sorting function does array.sort implement? |
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| 18:26.35 | enouf | pozic: (self-test) mount your '/' from within knoppix ; apt-get update .. what happens? you think your /mnt/point/var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin or whatever gets updated? |
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| 18:28.28 | enouf | thinks he still misunderstands what the real _issue_ is .. though still hanging in there |
| 18:29.04 | bpun | wonders if enouf means hanging as in the middle ages :) |
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| 18:29.59 | Wormfood | how do I turn off arrow keys mouse in X11? I tried everything I can think of, can't seem to turn it off (and I didn't explicitly turn it on) |
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| 18:31.33 | bpun | Wormfood, I never heard of something called "arrow keys mouse".. perhaps you're trying to get too comfortable with your machine |
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| 18:31.54 | enouf | bpun: i mean, like an ape from the spinning ceiling fan :-p |
| 18:32.18 | Wormfood | bpun, there is a key sequence to enable use of the number pad, and arrow keys as the mouse |
| 18:32.28 | enouf | Wormfood: shift+Numlock used to work for me |
| 18:32.31 | Wormfood | really nice when you don't have a mouse handy, or if something happens to your mouse |
| 18:32.38 | pozic | fxiny: no |
| 18:32.44 | Wormfood | I tried that, but didn't work for me...will try again now |
| 18:33.01 | enouf | Wormfood: it still should, .. just my keyboard is totally fubared |
| 18:33.10 | enouf | ok |
| 18:33.12 | Wormfood | WTF? it works now...thanks enouf (I can almost bet my life that I tried that) |
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| 18:33.34 | enouf | usually, i end up missing Numlock and hit something else nearby :-p |
| 18:33.51 | pozic | enouf: but what's wrong with tune2fs <rootdev> outside a chroot, since as you say the information is stored on the device anyway. |
| 18:33.53 | fxiny | pozic: ok . anyway your problem is interesting . fsck.ext3 reports nothing but at boot your fs seems unclean , am i right ? |
| 18:34.13 | pozic | fxiny: the problem is that some script starts fsck with the wrong parameters. |
| 18:34.14 | Wormfood | now my caps lock led is inverted (I've seen that happen quite frequently in Linux....somehow it gets out of sync |
| 18:34.28 | pozic | fxiny: -a none is a substring of the command, which should be impossible. |
| 18:34.30 | Wormfood | I mean...my caps lock led has been inverted for the last few weeks |
| 18:34.31 | fxiny | pozic: exactly , it seems a bug |
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| 18:34.52 | pozic | fxiny: further investigation shows that I do not have a / entry in my /etc/fstab anymore ! |
| 18:34.58 | fxiny | because fsck.ext3 -vf do fix ext3 problems |
| 18:35.02 | pozic | fxiny: I am sure that _I_ didn't remove it. |
| 18:35.22 | ramzi123 | my i-sight is not recognized by linux though lsusb shows it , any help how to install my macbook webcam? |
| 18:35.28 | enouf | pozic: is your debian rootfs mounted? if so, where? |
| 18:35.40 | enouf | pozic: be sure you look at /mnt/point/etc/fstab |
| 18:35.45 | pozic | enouf: you mean inside knoppix? |
| 18:35.49 | simonrvn | i have to do alt-ctrl-shift numlock to turn it on/off (though that might be a customization i did) |
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| 18:36.09 | pozic | enouf: I will simply add the relevant entry to the /etc/fstab file and it should at least do something els.e |
| 18:36.13 | enouf | tries that |
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| 18:36.24 | pozic | Maybe a cosmic ray, or something like that. |
| 18:36.30 | pozic | Or you know, gremlins. |
| 18:36.35 | enouf | pozic: i'm sorry, i'm having trouble following |
| 18:36.48 | pozic | enouf: doesn't matter, I will first have to try something else. |
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| 18:37.57 | enouf | pozic: here's perhaps some info you maybe could use -- i mean, i _think_ the "dirty bit" gets set and stored within the FS superblock somewhere |
| 18:38.21 | ramzi123 | my i-sight is not recognized by linux though lsusb shows it , any help how to install my macbook webcam? |
| 18:38.44 | enouf | http://ext2.sourceforge.net/2005-ols/paper-html/index.html |
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| 18:41.55 | linduxed | any suggestions for a name for a group of users that see everything in the samba share? (in a system where not everyone does) |
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| 18:42.31 | Titan8990 | smbmasters |
| 18:42.45 | asg | Ubermensch |
| 18:42.46 | linduxed | Titan8990: that one's good |
| 18:42.48 | lafrance | Would recompiling php be a pain for a noob ? |
| 18:42.55 | fxiny | pa-ti , ask santana:P |
| 18:43.03 | Titan8990 | lafrance, probably |
| 18:43.05 | stew | lafrance: why would you want to? |
| 18:43.06 | chellomere | lafrance, yes. do you have any specific reason to go on that endeavour? |
| 18:43.12 | lafrance | Could you please ask your hosting to recompile their php with curl enabled? |
| 18:43.31 | stew | lafrance: aptitude install php5-curl |
| 18:43.40 | simonrvn | just install php5-curl ... |
| 18:44.10 | lafrance | it is install that the weard part however if run script get curl error -1 |
| 18:44.24 | chellomere | lafrance, did you restart apache? |
| 18:45.11 | stew | lafrance: you'll have to be more specific |
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| 18:46.13 | pozic | enouf,fxiny: I fixed it. Thanks for the moral support. |
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| 18:46.25 | lafrance | sorry brb phone |
| 18:46.59 | fxiny | pozic: fixed it , how ? |
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| 18:47.09 | pozic | fxiny: simply added a line to /etc/fstab |
| 18:47.14 | fxiny | right |
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| 18:47.30 | pozic | fxiny: but I have no idea how this situation was possible to begin with. |
| 18:47.41 | pozic | fxiny: it could be some cruel hackers joke. |
| 18:47.54 | bluethundr_ | apache2-ssl-certificate : -bash: apache2-ssl-certificate: command not found |
| 18:47.59 | pozic | fxiny: but that should be non-trivial on this particular network. |
| 18:48.13 | fxiny | hackers are busy coding |
| 18:48.27 | pozic | fxiny: oh, crackers, whatever you want. |
| 18:48.41 | abrotman | make-ssl-cert |
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| 18:48.54 | pozic | fxiny: I think hackers can be an overloaded word :) |
| 18:49.06 | bluethundr_ | abrotman: k, I'll give that a try. did that change in lenny? |
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| 18:49.13 | fxiny | pozic: crackers ? google for Jon Callisti manifesto |
| 18:49.15 | abrotman | bluethundr_: changed in etch IIRC |
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| 18:49.44 | bluethundr_ | ah cool |
| 18:49.46 | lafrance | sorry brb phone |
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| 18:50.12 | lafrance | ok curl php5 is install apache2 was restarted however seem that curl show same error |
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| 18:50.35 | tonhe | i'm having a grub issue after telling my raid array to rebuild |
| 18:51.57 | pozic | fxiny: well, that was not really interesting. |
| 18:52.02 | CardinalFang | hi all. I have a packaging question. Suppose I have a package, foo. After a while, I want to split it into two packages, foo and foo-ui. What's the right stuff to make "foo" users get "foo-ui" automatically if upgrading, but allow users who don't want "-ui" to remove it? |
| 18:52.09 | pozic | fxiny: just some random guy proposing to change the meaning of a word. |
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| 18:52.53 | CardinalFang | foo-ui depends on foo, but foo dpesmn |
| 18:52.59 | CardinalFang | doesn't depend on foo-ui |
| 18:53.29 | bluethundr_ | /usr/sbin/make-ssl-cert generate-default-snakeoil |
| 18:53.34 | bluethundr_ | didn't ask me any questions |
| 18:53.49 | fxiny | pozic: why ? it looks very visual to me |
| 18:53.56 | bluethundr_ | maybe this is more like it? where does apache want this cert to live? |
| 18:53.57 | bluethundr_ | openssl genrsa -des3 -out beta.beezag.com.key 1024 |
| 18:54.16 | tonhe | anwyay, when I try to boot the server now, I'm getting an error 17 from grub |
| 18:54.37 | fxiny | pozic: "cold hard street" "lab" "Alphabet City" ... |
| 18:54.44 | tonhe | I've never really used grub much, as a matter of fact, this is the first time I've had it on a server.. |
| 18:55.56 | tonhe | with lilo its fairly simple to specify which disk to boot from etc from the lilo prompt.. anything i can do with grub to try and recover? |
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| 18:56.41 | acu | I saved all my /etch/apache2 folder reformat my hard - reinstalled lenny copy the apache2 folder back and I get all kind of messages - I want to reinstall Apache as it would be from installation - I tried with Synaptic - complete uninstallation then reinstallation - but the folders created were empty - how can I reinstall Apache so it gives me full working server |
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| 18:58.17 | bluethundr_ | how about conf.d ? good place for ssl certs? |
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| 18:58.42 | hark | acu: reinstall the apache2.2-common package |
| 18:59.17 | hark | acu: if that does not work, /msg dpkg confmiss |
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| 19:00.08 | bluethundr_ | hmmm aparently not. :( apache won't restart with my keys in tehre |
| 19:00.16 | pozic | fxiny: according to his definition, what is the name difference between one who actively destroys systems and one who identifies flaws? |
| 19:00.37 | TPC | hello, I have a program that depends on wine, however the package for the version of wine I have installed is not called wine, but ia32-wine (installed using ia32-apt-get) |
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| 19:00.51 | TPC | so I installed using dpkg --force-all, and it seems to work fine |
| 19:01.03 | TPC | how can I get apt-get/aptitude to stop complaining about it being broken each time I try to install something? |
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| 19:01.59 | hark | !force-all |
| 19:02.00 | dpkg | You should never, ever have to use --force-all. If you are using unstable, and there are bugs in packages, you may need to use a specific --force option (ask me about <force-overwrite> or <confmiss>), but then you should use the precise --force option required. Using --force-depends and/or --force-conflicts is *ALWAYS* broken. Fix the offending packages or use equivs instead. |
| 19:02.07 | abrotman | or unpack the package .. fix the dep .. repack and install |
| 19:02.14 | bpun | TPC, apt-get -f install may help |
| 19:02.26 | bpun | o |
| 19:02.33 | bpun | force-all << not good |
| 19:02.38 | TPC | bpun, that just makes it want to remove the version of wine I have installed and install the version of wine from the debian repositories |
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| 19:02.42 | TPC | which I do not want |
| 19:02.51 | fxiny | pozic: no , it's different , he started with "I Have No Voice But I Must Scream |
| 19:03.08 | fxiny | pozic: and it ends with a scream |
| 19:03.27 | bpun | TPC, i dont know anything about the details of your package system.. so i can't help -- wine sucks in my opinion, what are you using it for anyways? GAMES ? |
| 19:03.28 | Esine | Is there a special channel for debian-live? |
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| 19:03.51 | fxiny | he breaks the hackers/crackers definition on historic ground |
| 19:03.53 | TPC | bpun, I just want to play a bit of age of empires |
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| 19:04.20 | Esine | I was wondering if there is a version of debian live cd which includes mdadm, lvm2 and loop-aes support out of the box, or possibly installable via apt *while on the live cd* |
| 19:04.33 | TPC | so I need to get the source package that depends on wine, change the dependency, and recompile? |
| 19:05.06 | TPC | there is no way to make the debian package system think that an app is installed when its not? |
| 19:05.07 | hark | Esine: there's #debian-live on oftc |
| 19:05.10 | Esine | thanks |
| 19:05.10 | cmyers_work | TPC: you might try asking in #wine when the newest version will be fixed, or they may have advice about this specific issue. Last I checked, the newest version is full of bugs that breaks games like eve online |
| 19:05.40 | cmyers_work | TPC: did you install the deb downloaded from winehq, or did you add their repository to your soruces.list? |
| 19:05.47 | TPC | I installed the deb |
| 19:06.11 | chellomere | TPC, I believe you may need to build the depending program using ia32-apt-get too |
| 19:06.20 | cmyers_work | TPC: you can tell apt to stop trying to install the version from the debian repo by adding the wine repo and giving it a higher pin priority |
| 19:06.47 | TPC | that won't fix it, winehqs repo is broken, it doesn't have the newest .deb |
| 19:06.49 | cmyers_work | TPC: you have a deb that works - you shouldn't need to build any debs from source to make apy stop trying to install a different one - that'd be a sucky situation |
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| 19:07.46 | cmyers_work | TPC: then the problem is the wine guys need to fix their repo =/ but in the mean time, you can use pin-priority to make it stick to the old version, or just not upgrade until they have stuff fixed. |
| 19:07.52 | chellomere | you could try: |
| 19:07.56 | chellomere | !equivs |
| 19:07.56 | dpkg | i heard equivs is a package that enables you to create dummy packages that tell apt you really have installed (through some other means) the package. apt-get install equivs, and read /usr/share/doc/equivs/*, or see also <usrlocal> |
| 19:08.10 | TPC | ok, I'll try that |
| 19:08.14 | TPC | and the one from winehqs repo won't install, since it depends on ia32-libs, which isn't installable in sid |
| 19:08.22 | cmyers_work | chellomere: nice suggestion, I've never heard of that one. |
| 19:08.26 | TPC | since its been replaced with ia32-apt-get |
| 19:08.42 | cmyers_work | TPC: AHH, you are running sid, I missed that part |
| 19:08.52 | pozic | fxiny: you lost me |
| 19:08.54 | chellomere | TPC, wine for amd64 from debian doesn't work? |
| 19:08.57 | cmyers_work | you already signed the "please break me" contract =) |
| 19:09.08 | maligor | TPC, that's the price of using sid |
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| 19:09.20 | TPC | maligor, indeed, I'm not complaining, just trying to figure out the sanest way to fix it |
| 19:09.29 | cmyers_work | winehq's repos aren't broken, then they just aren't updated for sid yet. |
| 19:09.29 | maligor | you can make a empty |
| 19:09.34 | maligor | or can you |
| 19:09.41 | cmyers_work | yeh, sounds like equivs might be the way to go |
| 19:09.41 | maligor | the ia32 packages might conflict now |
| 19:09.43 | bpun | TPC, you like sid? |
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| 19:09.55 | maligor | but a empty might be worth trying |
| 19:09.57 | TPC | chellomere, age of empires doesn't install with the stable version of wine as far as I can tell from winehq, so debians version won't work |
| 19:10.15 | bpun | TPC, you really using debian or not? |
| 19:10.31 | TPC | yes, I'm using debian, have been for 6 years |
| 19:10.42 | bpun | TPC, so why do yo u mention sid? |
| 19:10.45 | TPC | bpun, and sid works fine most of the time, and when it doesn't I usually just wait with upgrading until its fixed |
| 19:10.57 | TPC | why wouldn't I? I'm not sure what you're getting at |
| 19:10.57 | bpun | "<TPC> and the one from winehqs repo won't install, since it depends on ia32-libs, which isn't installable in sid." |
| 19:11.11 | bpun | TPC, I dont need to help you. |
| 19:11.11 | fxiny | pozic: is ok , happy hacking :) |
| 19:11.24 | bpun | lol |
| 19:11.26 | bpun | sid boy. |
| 19:11.31 | bpun | he sure is a stable kid.. |
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| 19:11.36 | chellomere | TPC, experimental has 1.1.24 |
| 19:11.44 | ranix | bpun: stop trolling please |
| 19:11.48 | TPC | chellomere, interesting, I could get that instead |
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| 19:13.12 | bpun | hates sid users who never use reportbug |
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| 19:14.16 | enouf | it's always some windows homogenization issue ... sigh |
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| 19:14.44 | fxiny | enouf: heheh |
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| 19:16.15 | tonhe | is there anyway to tell grub to boot a specific disk like you can in lilo? |
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| 19:16.38 | maligor | tonhe, as opposed to the uuids? |
| 19:16.40 | dravekx_ | okay |
| 19:16.42 | dravekx_ | hello |
| 19:17.08 | tonhe | maligor: I know nothing about grub.. I'm getting an error 17 after telling an array to rebuild.. just want it to boot /dev/sda1 |
| 19:17.10 | dravekx_ | Im about to wipe out my win2k8 server and install debian, and Im a noob to linux :) |
| 19:17.29 | dravekx_ | so hello everyone, ill be in here asking stupid questions alot |
| 19:17.34 | dravekx_ | lol |
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| 19:17.57 | maligor | tonhe, well, syntax depends on what grub version |
| 19:18.18 | tonhe | maligor: hmm, thats neat. I have no clue, its a etch system if that helps |
| 19:18.21 | mnuhmnuh | dravekx_: you might want to play with a live CD a bit. |
| 19:18.49 | maligor | tonhe, if you can see the grub menu you should see the way to access editing the menu items runtime |
| 19:19.10 | tonhe | maligor: i'd just use a boot cd / live cd but I have no optical drive |
| 19:19.15 | dravekx_ | mnuhmnuh, i played with ubuntu a little and everyone says linux is the way to go, so Im switching |
| 19:19.31 | maligor | tonhe, you can use usb sticks also |
| 19:19.32 | tonhe | maligor: i dont see the menu, but then again, I have no clue how ot access the grub menu on boot, never used grub before. |
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| 19:19.50 | tonhe | maligor: you're a genious.. i didn't even think of usb sticks |
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| 19:20.26 | tonhe | any reccomendations for a usb stick image? |
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| 19:20.32 | maligor | debian :P |
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| 19:21.04 | maligor | you just dd the hd-media image to the usb stick |
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| 19:21.13 | mnuhmnuh | tonhe: unetbootin |
| 19:21.15 | maligor | and then mount & copy a cd .iso to it |
| 19:21.53 | jake[work] | i'm trying to get remote syslogs working . added *.* @myserver and restarted sysklogd. nothing is being sent. verified w tcpdump. any ideas? |
| 19:22.24 | tonhe | hmm |
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| 19:22.36 | tonhe | looking at the unetbootin page.. they have no software for os |
| 19:22.38 | tonhe | os x |
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| 19:24.05 | abrotman | supergrub CD ? |
| 19:24.28 | g00se | http://goodbye-microsoft.com/demo.html |
| 19:24.51 | enouf | jake[work]: rsyslogd? or check out /etc/default/sys* |
| 19:25.07 | g00se | (That could be good for dravekx_ - don't know about tonhe - only just got back) |
| 19:25.32 | enouf | http://goodbye-macintosh_and_apple.com/demo.html ? |
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| 19:30.04 | tonhe | hmm |
| 19:30.12 | tonhe | found a usb edition of slax.. but the download is freaking slow |
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| 19:32.28 | Spaghetti-code | what does the word ubuntu mean? |
| 19:33.01 | stew | Spaghetti-code: ask #ubuntu |
| 19:33.09 | psilikon | can't install debian |
| 19:33.12 | stew | Spaghetti-code: (ubuntu is off-topic here) |
| 19:33.22 | Spaghetti-code | yeah |
| 19:34.08 | Spaghetti-code | debora ian is a nice girl |
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| 19:37.53 | psilikon | what is meant by 'pristine' kernel source? |
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| 19:38.24 | rudi_s_ | psilikon: With no patches, directly from kernel.org for example. |
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| 19:39.39 | psilikon | Oh ok |
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| 19:41.42 | marcin__ | Hi. I'm using default debian kernel with modules support, I want to disable using some modules. Is it possible rather then using rmmod in /etc/rc.local? |
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| 19:42.11 | stew | marcin__: /msg dpkg blacklist |
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| 19:42.27 | tonhe | ohgod |
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| 19:42.42 | tonhe | forgot, my down file server is also DHCP server.. just lost my address |
| 19:42.58 | tonhe | and of course, my downloads died.. so those get to restart |
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| 19:45.22 | nooneelse | how can I see which flags/params the packages were compiled ? |
| 19:45.24 | scientes | tonhe, and what can we help you with? |
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| 19:45.51 | tonhe | maligor was already attempting to help |
| 19:45.53 | linduxed | how do i add an existing user to an existing group? |
| 19:46.06 | tonhe | had an issue with grub error 17 after a power failure and my raid array got all wacky |
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| 19:46.24 | snilleblixt | will "make" & "make install" also upgrade software from source or are they just for fresh installs? |
| 19:46.38 | tonhe | now i'm lurking incase I need some grub help.. i dont know bubkiss about grub |
| 19:46.38 | scientes | grub error 17 is unable to find stage 1.5 error |
| 19:46.46 | scientes | 1.5/2.0 |
| 19:46.52 | tonhe | i have no clue what that means |
| 19:47.07 | tonhe | I've never used grub in my life, always used Lilo |
| 19:47.14 | scientes | tonhe, it means the filesystems your grub points to are gone |
| 19:47.20 | tonhe | hmm |
| 19:47.22 | tonhe | thats not good |
| 19:47.26 | scientes | as grub cannot fit on a singly 512byte MBR |
| 19:47.44 | scientes | the only bootloader that can is FreeBSD's boot0 |
| 19:47.48 | tonhe | probably related to my bad magic number |
| 19:48.12 | scientes | If you can chroot into your system you can reinstall grub |
| 19:49.19 | tonhe | I can't boot the system |
| 19:49.29 | scientes | with a LiceCD |
| 19:49.32 | scientes | *LiveCD |
| 19:49.36 | tonhe | yeah.. I have no optical on here |
| 19:49.41 | scientes | then netboot |
| 19:49.42 | tonhe | i'm downloading a slax usb cd |
| 19:49.46 | scientes | or that |
| 19:49.50 | tonhe | er |
| 19:49.50 | scientes | or install to SD |
| 19:49.51 | tonhe | usb image |
| 19:50.17 | tonhe | what do i have to do to reinstall grub? |
| 19:50.24 | tonhe | just so I know when I'm finally able to get into the system |
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| 19:50.44 | scientes | if the partition it is set up to use isnt avalable you will get error 17 |
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| 19:51.04 | scientes | but yeah you may not need to reinstall if you can fix it |
| 19:52.03 | mnuhmnuh | linduxed: edit /etc/group, add the user onto end of group line. |
| 19:52.24 | linduxed | mnuhmnuh: thought so |
| 19:52.45 | mnuhmnuh | linduxed: takes effect on next login. |
| 19:53.07 | g00se | linduxed: sudo adduser <user> <group to be added to> |
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| 19:54.03 | wildc4rd | evening all |
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| 19:54.48 | linduxed | g00se: did that |
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| 19:55.16 | Elmoe | Hi, could someone point me towards any official thread regarding the ongoing shenanigans surrounding ia32-apt-get vs. ia32-libs in sid? |
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| 19:55.58 | tonhe | ugh |
| 19:55.59 | tonhe | sorry |
| 19:56.19 | tonhe | my mac freaks out occasionally when I plug in a monitor that isn't powered on |
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| 19:59.26 | deco | i just installed kde but chose not to use it's graphical login manager but now i do how do i set it to be default ? |
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| 20:01.00 | maligor | deco, in what? |
| 20:01.11 | deco | maligor: debian 5 |
| 20:01.17 | maligor | if you use gdm, you just use the session selection and it'll ask you if y ou want to make it default |
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| 20:01.44 | deco | maligor: but i want to remove gnome so i better set kdm before i remove it |
| 20:02.08 | maligor | deco, dpkg-reconfigure kdm |
| 20:02.17 | deco | maligor: thank you ! :-) |
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| 20:06.08 | deco | how do i remove gnome from debian 5? |
| 20:06.13 | abrotman | !remove gnome |
| 20:06.13 | dpkg | To remove or purge GNOME 1.x, do: aptitude remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (use purge instead of remove if that's what you want). For GNOME 2.x, use aptitude remove libgnome2-* libbonobo2-* liborbit2* libgnomeui* libgnomevfs2-* (or use purge accordingly). |
| 20:06.59 | deco | abrotman: thanks! |
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| 20:08.32 | bluethundr_ | guys I really need to get an ssl apache2 server going.... |
| 20:08.34 | bluethundr_ | estarting web server: apache2[Thu Jul 23 16:04:18 2009] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts |
| 20:08.34 | bluethundr_ | [Thu Jul 23 16:04:18 2009] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts |
| 20:08.34 | bluethundr_ | (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:443 |
| 20:08.38 | bluethundr_ | whoops |
| 20:08.39 | bluethundr_ | sory |
| 20:08.44 | bluethundr_ | accidental paste :( |
| 20:09.05 | bluethundr_ | accidentally pasted buffer was goiing to pastebin |
| 20:09.22 | jelly-home | the clock on your server seems to be a bit late, or the paste is four minutes old |
| 20:09.45 | bluethundr_ | hmmm |
| 20:09.47 | bluethundr_ | k |
| 20:10.12 | bluethundr_ | need to setup ntp I guess |
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| 20:10.20 | bluethundr_ | tahts' not the current problem however |
| 20:10.21 | jelly-home | "Address already in use" usually means there's another process holding that port -- :443 in your case |
| 20:10.35 | bluethundr_ | netstat -tulpn ? |
| 20:11.28 | jelly-home | -tupan is a mnemonic in my language so I use that |
| 20:14.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | you're already running it? |
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| 20:39.32 | drw | someone have a tutorial for galleria module ? |
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| 20:39.52 | drw | I'm test for get a result like as http://devkick.com/lab/galleria/demo_02.htm |
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| 20:42.09 | helo | does not |
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| 20:44.21 | Melior | Hi i removed my normal repo urls, how do i find them again? |
| 20:44.35 | nkuttler | !tell Melior about sources.list |
| 20:44.43 | mjt | /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/ |
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| 20:50.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | sings 976 channels err, ppl and nothing on... |
| 20:50.44 | Melior | and apt pinning? |
| 20:50.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | what about it |
| 20:51.49 | adb | CutMeOwnThroat: hi |
| 20:52.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | adb, hi, too |
| 20:52.01 | adb | !pinning |
| 20:52.01 | dpkg | Pinning is a method to choose which version of a package to install when multiple versions are available from sources.list. man apt_preferences, http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning Bugs are explained at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/debian.html#errata If you use stable, pinning won't help you from messing up the system... use <backports> instead. |
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| 20:52.32 | Patric7 | Is there any way to reinitialize a PCMCIA card from the command line ? After coming out of suspend, I need to eject and reinsert my wireless PCMCIA network card in order to join wireless networks. If I could skip the "eject/reinsert" stage (and replace this with a workaround) this would help. |
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| 20:53.15 | nkuttler | Patric7: pccardctl |
| 20:53.19 | Melior | iøm trying to use these, but not working :/ http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html |
| 20:54.17 | Melior | says: W: "Failed to fetch http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/dists/unstable/non-US/non-free/i18n/Translation-en_GB.bz2 Could not resolve 'non-us.debian.org'" |
| 20:54.32 | jake[work] | enouf: rsyslogd worked! tnx for the recommendation! |
| 20:54.49 | nkuttler | Melior: that's horribly outdated, /msg dpkg non-us |
| 20:55.20 | nkuttler | !tell Melior about pinning |
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| 20:58.05 | Patric7 | nkuttler: Thanks for your help. pccardctl eject && pccardctl insert works after a resume |
| 20:58.28 | Melior | nkutter: isn't the urls with out of date=? |
| 20:59.01 | nkuttler | Melior: ?? pinning is evil anyway |
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| 21:00.48 | pozic | After an "upgrade" (feels more like a downgrade) I get "Unable to start backend "ptal" - Success." in the web interface in CUPS 1.3.11. |
| 21:01.12 | rgr | Anyone know of a workaround in debian with gnome to stop flash in full screen minimising when it loses focus? Its crazy not to be able to watch FS video on the other head. Works fine in the other OS :-( |
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| 21:01.14 | pozic | It seems that Google doesn't know about this one. |
| 21:01.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, where are you? |
| 21:01.26 | bbelt16ag | hi peeps |
| 21:01.29 | dpkg | I am located at Latitude: 33.9695129 Longitude: -117.3275986 |
| 21:01.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | ha |
| 21:01.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | I thought you're dead |
| 21:01.41 | bbelt16ag | whats the name of the cups dev |
| 21:02.01 | bbelt16ag | file so i can install it |
| 21:02.01 | ghostkni1e | I know this is not a debian request, but people in the channel where this is probably most appropriate don't know how to FTP. Can someone tell me if they can successfully login to the ftp server "ubuntu.mirror.ac.za" |
| 21:02.06 | ghostkni1e | Would be greatly appreciated |
| 21:02.19 | stew | !they don't know |
| 21:02.19 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 21:02.53 | mnuhmnuh | Irssi 0.8.12 (20071006) - http://irssi.org/ |
| 21:03.05 | ghostkni1e | stew: nm then. I just figured I'd ask a favour. too much too ask I guess |
| 21:03.17 | craigevil | ghostkni1e: It's just you. http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za is up. :) http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ |
| 21:03.28 | ghostkni1e | stew: This was the only way I could think off to quickly find someone in another country |
| 21:03.31 | Melior | nkuttler: No i like it. Need to get something from unstable from time to time |
| 21:03.33 | ghostkni1e | stew: sorry to bother you |
| 21:03.40 | ghostkni1e | craigevil: thanks alot! from what country are you? |
| 21:04.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | ghostkni1e, it's there, but no files on it |
| 21:04.54 | ghostkni1e | CutMeOwnThroat: very weird. gotcha thanks. most of south africa can't even resolve it or access it via IP. Might be a firewall thing if it's empty. |
| 21:04.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | dammit, I thought the link in the !usb install factoid also had a trick ready how to boot from the stick when the bios doesn't have that option |
| 21:04.59 | ghostkni1e | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks for the info. |
| 21:05.24 | pozic | Got it working again :) |
| 21:05.50 | ghostkni1e | craigevil: also, thanks for the downforeveryone link |
| 21:05.55 | ghostkni1e | over and out |
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| 21:08.43 | bbelt16ag | question what is the debian way to install some driver on the cli for my printer? |
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| 21:08.56 | enouf | jake[work]: cool |
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| 21:10.05 | enouf | bbelt16ag: erm .. lpr/lpd? |
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| 21:11.29 | bbelt16ag | found it.. |
| 21:11.35 | g00se | craigevil: I'm not sure i understand the answer when i put http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com into http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com ... |
| 21:11.39 | bbelt16ag | didnt know i could go the website through links.. |
| 21:11.41 | bbelt16ag | cool |
| 21:11.43 | bbelt16ag | go links |
| 21:12.04 | enouf | linux-printing.org too or something |
| 21:14.13 | enouf | CutMeOwnThroat: it's called memdisk, from syslinux.zytor.com |
| 21:14.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | ? |
| 21:14.29 | mnuhmnuh | craigevil: what is http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com doing? ping -c 1? |
| 21:14.41 | enouf | CutMeOwnThroat: "trick ready how to boot from the stick when the bios doesn't have that option" |
| 21:14.45 | enouf | trick ready how to boot from the stick when the bios doesn't have that option |
| 21:14.46 | enouf | ooops |
| 21:15.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | what does syslinux have to do with it? |
| 21:15.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's part of the bootprocess, no? |
| 21:15.10 | enouf | gives up |
| 21:15.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's just simpler to set up than grub |
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| 21:15.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | as I understood that |
| 21:15.45 | mjt | hmm |
| 21:15.49 | enouf | are you trying to boot a USB stick on a machine with a BIOS that cannot boot from USB? |
| 21:15.55 | enouf | tries again |
| 21:15.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh... I could put that on a floppy and configure it to start from the stick |
| 21:16.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah |
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| 21:16.57 | enouf | CutMeOwnThroat: SmartBootManager was another option (i know it can load HDD ...and CDs that (BIOS) cannot boot, not sure of USB sticks) - maybe even grub4dos :-p |
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| 21:17.39 | Ezep | How do you set X modules with the new ultra mega xorg autodetect solution? |
| 21:17.56 | enouf | CutMeOwnThroat: http://syslinux.zytor.com/wiki/index.php/MEMDISK |
| 21:17.56 | g00se | It should probably be http://downforyouandperhapsacoupleofproxiesyoucanbebotheredhittingorjustme.com/ |
| 21:18.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually I did have the stick prepared for computer 1) now thought of reusing it and damn computer 2) doesn't boot from usb... I guess it would have been too easy :) |
| 21:18.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | enouf, good links, thx |
| 21:19.05 | enouf | happy to help when i can |
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| 21:19.41 | enouf | Ezep: set X modules? xorg.conf |
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| 21:20.28 | Ezep | enouf: yeap, but without the "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"?, you mean... manually? |
| 21:21.07 | bbelt16ag | um will lp and cups interfere with each other? |
| 21:21.49 | mnuhmnuh | bbelt16ag: cups interferes with everything. :-) |
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| 21:22.20 | krfkeith | I have a problem |
| 21:22.28 | bbelt16ag | sigh |
| 21:22.35 | enouf | Ezep: yerp - man xorg.conf and learn about xrandr perhaps |
| 21:22.41 | bbelt16ag | i am trying to sena test page but its not working |
| 21:22.48 | krfkeith | for some reason the debian installer will not configure the DHCP for the WLAN |
| 21:22.51 | enouf | Ezep: oh, and man <your-Xorg-module> |
| 21:22.57 | krfkeith | it keeps saying it failed |
| 21:23.01 | enouf | like intel, radeon, nv, etc |
| 21:23.07 | bbelt16ag | recoverable: Network host 'localhost' is busy; will retry in 30 seconds... |
| 21:23.16 | bbelt16ag | it cant be busy |
| 21:23.21 | Ezep | enouf: an old Sis |
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| 21:23.32 | enouf | ok, so see it's man page ;-) |
| 21:23.34 | g00se | krfkeith: can you use wired for the moment? |
| 21:23.42 | Ezep | enouf: ty <3, I will need time for this |
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| 21:23.56 | krfkeith | well it won't recognize the interface |
| 21:24.16 | krfkeith | my computer uses a docking station for the LAN interface |
| 21:24.18 | datenritter | i just installed squeeze on a box and the xorg.conf is empty (?!). what should i do to get one created automagically? |
| 21:24.28 | krfkeith | and it doesn't recognize it when I scan for network interfaces |
| 21:24.30 | iddo | can i force apt-get install a package without its dependecies? |
| 21:24.37 | enouf | bbelt16ag: sometimes, it's the -bsd stuff that either enables/replaces/disables the lp stuff -- or will only accept certain lp -options |
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| 21:25.13 | bbelt16ag | do i have to download the hplip drivers from sourcefore? i never had to do this before |
| 21:25.21 | enouf | datenritter: /msg dpkg drxx |
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| 21:25.24 | bbelt16ag | alredy tried it and it want depends i cant find.. |
| 21:25.39 | enouf | bbelt16ag: i went nuts getting mine to work - not even sure what fixed it eventually |
| 21:25.57 | enouf | bbelt16ag: which release? Lenny? |
| 21:26.09 | adb | Ezep: X -configure |
| 21:26.19 | enouf | s/fixed/made it work finally/ |
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| 21:27.35 | datenritter | enouf: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't have an effect. xorg.conf is still empty, no backup created, nada. |
| 21:27.46 | stew | datenritter: that's the expected behavior |
| 21:27.49 | g00se | krfkeith: can you plug in directly for the moment? |
| 21:27.53 | datenritter | maybe i'm missing a package... the dependencies in squeeze seem to be rotten |
| 21:28.00 | datenritter | stew: p? |
| 21:28.06 | stew | datenritter: in most cases an empty xorg.conf should be all that is necessary |
| 21:28.29 | bbelt16ag | enouf: lenny 5.x |
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| 21:28.34 | bbelt16ag | is this right socket://192.168.1.202:9101 |
| 21:28.36 | bbelt16ag | ? |
| 21:28.37 | krfkeith | g00se: no, unfrtunately, the computer has no LAN port |
| 21:28.42 | enouf | datenritter: it's not supposed to work the way you think -- read the info from the factoid |
| 21:28.49 | krfkeith | that is, without the docking station |
| 21:29.02 | enouf | bbelt16ag: http://localhost:631/admin |
| 21:29.05 | bbelt16ag | its locally attached |
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| 21:29.18 | datenritter | enouf: oups... thx |
| 21:29.23 | g00se | krfkeith: what os did it have before? |
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| 21:29.52 | krfkeith | Vista, it still has it |
| 21:29.54 | bbelt16ag | should it be localhost or the ip adder? |
| 21:30.02 | enouf | for? |
| 21:30.17 | bbelt16ag | the URI |
| 21:30.19 | enouf | i'm presuming you mean CUPS setup/panel |
| 21:30.21 | g00se | krfkeith: And how and what are you truing to install? |
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| 21:30.38 | blouf | why |
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| 21:30.49 | blouf | does this PCM controller appears only when i run VLC ? |
| 21:30.52 | krfkeith | GUI installer, and I did the thign where it installs it from Widnows |
| 21:31.10 | blouf | 15+ times i rebuild/install alsa drivers, changing drivers' version |
| 21:31.29 | blouf | but this PCM controller managing the global sound only appear in alsamixer/other when i run vlc |
| 21:31.32 | blouf | HELP |
| 21:32.17 | Ezep | adb: nice tip, let me see |
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| 21:35.58 | inet6 | hi to all |
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| 21:38.50 | mcbane | hi |
| 21:38.59 | bbelt16ag | i did a search for the printer and added it that way and it worked |
| 21:39.07 | mcbane | does etch work with a 2.4.31 kernel? |
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| 21:39.48 | Supertanker | What would be the easiest way for me to get Python 3.1 onto my Debian 5 Lenny (5.0, iirc) distro? |
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| 21:40.05 | Supertanker | I'd just compile from source, but I imagine I'd have to remove Python 2.5, and that would be an insane undertaking. |
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| 21:46.22 | mnuhmnuh | mcbane: i do not understand you guys who are afraid to stay at least as current as stable. :-P |
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| 21:48.15 | mcbane | mnuhmnuh: I really would like to install lenny with a 2.6 kernel. However this is an xbox and not really supported. I am happy id it even runs somehow with etch. And since I have little experience in how to compile a kernel I would like to stick with the pre installed one (2.4.31) |
| 21:49.27 | mnuhmnuh | mcbane: ah, get it, thx. carry on. |
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| 21:54.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | mcbane, I don't see why not... I've ran it with a 2.4.20 kernel |
| 21:55.04 | mcbane | CutMeOwnThroat: that is good news. Thanks :) |
| 21:55.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | mnuhmnuh, we're afraid of updates :) |
| 21:55.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | mcbane, actually it still runs with a 2.4.20 kernel after updating to lenny |
| 21:55.48 | mnuhmnuh | CutMeOwnThroat: you're running xboxes, is what's wrong. :-) |
| 21:55.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | but then the machine now is only/mostly used for mail/web server things |
| 21:55.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | mnuhmnuh, I'm not! |
| 21:56.28 | mnuhmnuh | CutMeOwnThroat: :-) |
| 21:56.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | mcbane, so I wouldn't notice a lot of the problems that might have crept up after the update (actually I updated the kernel, too, afair, but didn't reboot for las 130 days or so) |
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| 21:57.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | mcbane, I think most problems you'd get from using 2.4.x on lenny come from the switch to udev from the hotplug system... |
| 21:57.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | apart from that... I guess lenny should be ok with a 2.4 kernel |
| 21:58.02 | mcbane | that's going to be interesting |
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| 22:11.00 | nsadmin | mnuhmnuh, one thing to understand is there might not be a version of something that's required... newer replaced older, and I (for one) can't go there until I crawl out of that need (which I'm doing as we speak) |
| 22:11.37 | nsadmin | in my particular case I'm running etch on my desktop because I need postgresql 7.4 |
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| 22:13.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions postgresql |
| 22:13.10 | judd | CutMeOwnThroat: postgresql -- etch: 7.5.22 sid: 8.3.5-1 sid: 8.3.6-1 etch-backports: 8.3.7-0lenny1~bpo40+1 lenny: 8.3.7-0lenny1 squeeze: 8.3.7-1 lenny-backports: 8.4.0-1~bpo50+1 sid: 8.4.0-2 |
| 22:13.18 | nsadmin | that's not going to go away until I migrate my data over to 8.1 (again, old, but I'm not particularly willing to go with anything that doesn't work |
| 22:13.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | interesting |
| 22:13.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | didn't think it'd matter so much which version you run |
| 22:13.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | they changed the file format? |
| 22:13.47 | nsadmin | right, there's no 7.4 in etch, and there used to be |
| 22:14.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | or database-save-file-format or whatever you want to call it |
| 22:14.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | but can't you keep 7.4 around on an upgrade? |
| 22:14.32 | nsadmin | well the only way for me to do that is to build my own |
| 22:14.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | my apache1.3 stuck around even in lenny... until I decided perhaps it's time to go apache2 now |
| 22:14.39 | nsadmin | which I can do and have done |
| 22:14.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | lenny can't fulfill it's dependencies? |
| 22:15.26 | nsadmin | I need 7.4 until I migrate out |
| 22:16.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | I mean lenny can't fulfill 7.4s dependencies? |
| 22:16.17 | nsadmin | then the way is open to 8, but I don't know how far I can go |
| 22:16.30 | nsadmin | no, there's no 7.4 in lenny |
| 22:16.36 | nsadmin | but you saw that |
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| 22:17.11 | nsadmin | it's going to be a week or two worth of work |
| 22:17.34 | nsadmin | at that point I could try a chroot to see how it goes |
| 22:17.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | nsadmin, I'm talking of *ghasp* mixing |
| 22:17.59 | nsadmin | no, that's just a can of worms |
| 22:18.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | chickens like worms |
| 22:18.18 | nsadmin | believe me I considered upgrading the other day |
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| 22:19.22 | nsadmin | that means I should love worms :P but I'm not going for it until I'm done with the development cycle... as you upgrade, things change... and I'm not willing to have them change on me in the middle of said dev cycle |
| 22:19.41 | slimjimflim | hi i need to install pppd...does anyone know what the package name is? |
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| 22:19.52 | nsadmin | pg being one part of that pita |
| 22:19.59 | slimjimflim | running lenny |
| 22:20.06 | nsadmin | judd, versions pppd |
| 22:20.06 | judd | nsadmin: pppd -- |
| 22:20.09 | nsadmin | judd, versions ppp |
| 22:20.10 | judd | nsadmin: ppp -- etch: 2.4.4rel-8 lenny: 2.4.4rel-10.1 sid: 2.4.4rel-10.1 squeeze: 2.4.4rel-10.1 |
| 22:20.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | nsadmin, right... probably not really saving work - to be sure you'd need to try it out somewhere 1st |
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| 22:20.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | which might turn out to be mttiw |
| 22:20.48 | slimjimflim | ty |
| 22:21.01 | nsadmin | more to the inward wookie? |
| 22:21.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | more trouble than it's worth :) |
| 22:21.16 | nsadmin | bigtime |
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| 22:21.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | I thought regarding computers, that's a phrase that deserves its own acronym :) |
| 22:21.51 | nsadmin | it's way more trouble, I'm used to things the way they are, and I'm in the middle of something :) |
| 22:22.47 | nsadmin | have I qualified myself enough yet? :) |
| 22:23.23 | adb | yeap . |
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| 22:24.08 | nsadmin | believe me, I want to go there, it's not time yet |
| 22:24.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | qualified? for what? |
| 22:24.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | as a chicken? |
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| 22:24.55 | nsadmin | as a robot chicken! |
| 22:25.08 | nsadmin | cmon, gotta love les claypool :P |
| 22:25.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | cooool |
| 22:25.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | robot chicken wings |
| 22:25.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | crunchy... and healthy... loads of iron |
| 22:25.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | bad for teeth, though |
| 22:25.37 | nsadmin | oxydized too |
| 22:25.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | err |
| 22:25.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | bad for teesh shough |
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| 22:26.21 | nsadmin | oh, I see you've tried them |
| 22:26.34 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:26.45 | nsadmin | OneTaste? |
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| 22:27.34 | nsadmin | see what you can learn to do THERE... |
| 22:28.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | I think 'ot' means on-topic |
| 22:28.07 | derekja | hey, i'm trying to write files to a dvd, and for some reason my computer will acknowledge blank cd's, but not any blank dvd's that i put in |
| 22:28.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps it's just a CD burner |
| 22:28.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | using k3b for burning? |
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| 22:29.09 | derekja | it says dvd rewritable on the tray |
| 22:29.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | you need dvd+rw-tools... got those? |
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| 22:29.35 | derekja | i have no idea what i'm using for burning, it's just the default i suppose |
| 22:29.40 | derekja | i have no idea |
| 22:29.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | well I for sure have no idea what you're using for burning |
| 22:30.08 | derekja | how would i get or know if i had these tools? |
| 22:30.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | but I think they're all just frontends... |
| 22:30.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | what does dpkg -l dvd+rw-tools tell you? |
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| 22:31.02 | derekja | Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold |
| 22:31.02 | derekja | | Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |
| 22:31.02 | derekja | |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) |
| 22:31.02 | derekja | ||/ Name Version Description |
| 22:31.02 | derekja | +++-==============-==============-============================================ |
| 22:31.02 | derekja | ii dvd+rw-tools 7.1-3 DVD+-RW/R tools |
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| 22:31.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | *sigh* |
| 22:31.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | |grep ii |
| 22:31.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | :-/ |
| 22:31.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | you'd think they see which line is important in all this |
| 22:31.45 | nsadmin | he's not back yet :) |
| 22:31.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | I know |
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| 22:31.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | time to talk about him badly |
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| 22:32.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | !paste |
| 22:32.08 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
| 22:32.21 | derekja | ah ok |
| 22:32.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | "ii dvd+rw-tools 7.1-3 DVD+-RW/R tools" would have been enough in this case |
| 22:32.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | so you got that |
| 22:32.26 | derekja | yea |
| 22:32.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | (I thought that was kinda obvious) |
| 22:32.42 | nsadmin | well it's understandable if he doesn't know the shell and command-line survival in general |
| 22:32.57 | derekja | yea sorry i didn't really look at it |
| 22:33.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | you might want to try k3b anyway... it's quite nice, it'll warn you if backends it needs are missing and, sadly, it's part of KDE and will use some KDE libraries |
| 22:34.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | so as you have that, you can do something like /usr/bin/dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/dvd |
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| 22:34.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | or possibly /usr/bin/dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/cdrom |
| 22:34.23 | derekja | what does that do |
| 22:34.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | dunno, I just saw it |
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| 22:34.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | dvd+rw-mediainfo - display information about dvd drive and disk |
| 22:35.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | should tell you that it's a dvd inside |
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| 22:35.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | "man dvd+rw-mediainfo" would provide a clue as to what it does |
| 22:35.28 | derekja | INQUIRY: [_NEC ][DVD+RW ND-2100AD][103D] |
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| 22:35.47 | derekja | it says no media mounted |
| 22:35.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | wierd |
| 22:36.09 | derekja | yea, and it doesn't have a problem with normal disks |
| 22:36.09 | BCM43 | derekja: did you put it in right side up? |
| 22:36.19 | derekja | screw you simon lol |
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| 22:36.46 | BCM43 | derekja: does the cd burner detect it? |
| 22:36.54 | nsadmin | CutMeOwnThroat, I'm guessing you have a better idea of what his capabilities are than I do... all I know is the range of obviousness varies -widely- |
| 22:37.10 | derekja | neither one detects it |
| 22:37.21 | BCM43 | derekja: no, I mean the application |
| 22:37.32 | derekja | no, nothing does |
| 22:37.52 | BCM43 | derekja: try the dvd in annother computer. |
| 22:37.58 | derekja | i was thinking that |
| 22:38.30 | nsadmin | is the dvd drive working under the os you're running on that machine? |
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| 22:39.05 | derekja | yea i guess, i've written to disks to it multiple times |
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| 22:39.16 | derekja | it's the first time i'm trying to write to a dvd |
| 22:39.48 | ranix | try a permanent marker, derekja |
| 22:40.24 | nsadmin | ok, so the reader and writer seem to work |
| 22:40.29 | derekja | ranix: clever |
| 22:40.46 | derekja | yea, it's just dvd's that it seems to have a problem detecting |
| 22:41.18 | BCM43 | derekja: did you try it on annother computer? |
| 22:41.49 | derekja | simon: about to |
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| 22:43.27 | derekja | simon: it doesn't detect anything interestingly enough |
| 22:43.33 | derekja | so it's the dvd? |
| 22:44.23 | BCM43 | derekja: most likley. What is the origin of it? |
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| 22:44.43 | derekja | simon: the origin? |
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| 22:45.07 | BCM43 | derekja: is it 5 years old or did you just buy it? Has it been sitting on a shelf? |
| 22:45.35 | derekja | simon: i don't know, but it's in very good condition |
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| 22:46.51 | BCM43 | derekja: are you sure that they can burn dvd's? |
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| 22:47.22 | nsadmin | are one of those linksys linux routers a good buy? |
| 22:47.23 | derekja | it says dvd-rw on the tray, i assume that means that i can write to a dvd |
| 22:47.44 | BCM43 | nsadmin: get a regular one and put tomato on it |
| 22:47.47 | BCM43 | derekja: yea |
| 22:47.52 | nsadmin | to a specific kind of rw |
| 22:48.03 | nsadmin | regular? tomato? |
| 22:48.28 | nsadmin | kinda wanna put some flavor of debian on there |
| 22:48.31 | mnuhmnuh | derekja: might be dvd read, cdrom r+w |
| 22:49.06 | pickcoder | you should be able to get the model# from dmesg when it finds the block devices |
| 22:49.13 | derekja | mnuhmnuh: well then why would it say dvd-rw |
| 22:49.29 | mnuhmnuh | sorry, missed that. |
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| 22:49.51 | derekja | mnuhmnuh: it says not only dvd-rw, but cd-rw |
| 22:49.56 | nsadmin | derekja: a dvd-rw is a specific kind of dvd |
| 22:49.56 | derekja | so it's deffinitely both |
| 22:50.05 | mnuhmnuh | wodim -scanbus |
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| 22:50.27 | derekja | oh, right, well i have a dvd-r in there, i figure that would still work |
| 22:50.52 | nsadmin | there's dvd-r and dvd+r |
| 22:51.03 | nsadmin | and those are two different things |
| 22:51.34 | derekja | ok, well the disk is dvd-r, and the burner is dvd + rw |
| 22:51.46 | zinx | not +/-? |
| 22:52.06 | derekja | zinx: huh? |
| 22:52.09 | zinx | what's the burner's model number? dmesg | grep DVD may help. |
| 22:52.33 | pickcoder | there's DVD+RW, DVD-RW, and DVD+/-RW |
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| 22:52.42 | zinx | derekja: DVD-R is different from DVD+R, and some burners only do one or the other, though it's common to see them do both these days |
| 22:52.43 | pickcoder | +/- is multi-format |
| 22:52.52 | derekja | ah |
| 22:52.55 | LordVorp | you know the place at INSTALL that asks what kind of keyboard you're using? like, what COUNTRY of keyboard you're using? Is there a way to change that later? |
| 22:53.18 | nsadmin | sure |
| 22:53.25 | rgr | LordVorp: yes, run the package configuration. |
| 22:53.30 | LordVorp | which package |
| 22:53.47 | LordVorp | and, do you mean dpkg-reconfigure {something} ? |
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| 22:54.12 | Janhouse | Is it possible to store synaptic (and other apps) sudo password in keyring in ubuntu jaunty? |
| 22:54.26 | LordVorp | (I realized AFTER installing that the laptop I was working with had a UK keyboard, not US) |
| 22:54.28 | streuner | Janhouse: #ubuntu |
| 22:54.36 | Janhouse | oh, sorry :) |
| 22:54.40 | rgr | LordVorp: yes |
| 22:54.59 | LordVorp | rgr: great, then I already know how. which package? |
| 22:55.07 | rgr | xorg-server I think |
| 22:55.12 | rgr | google |
| 22:55.14 | LordVorp | ! ok |
| 22:55.20 | LordVorp | (not the answer I expected) |
| 22:55.31 | LordVorp | and if I knew the right keywords I would have JFGI already. :) |
| 22:55.39 | rgr | Its confusing at times because the DE/WM have config settings too. |
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| 23:21.36 | Phil4 | if a .list file was deleted from /var/lib/dpkg/info/ is it possible to rebuild it? |
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| 23:22.46 | unitypunk | what ports does smb need fowraded to the host pc? |
| 23:22.58 | Phil4 | 139 |
| 23:23.01 | Phil4 | TCP |
| 23:23.09 | unitypunk | that it? |
| 23:23.12 | Phil4 | yah |
| 23:23.30 | unitypunk | then i can hit it through the internet |
| 23:23.37 | unitypunk | right |
| 23:23.46 | Phil4 | correct |
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| 23:24.17 | nick4 | How do I tell lftp to upload a dir from my disk to a server? (recursively) |
| 23:24.25 | bkjoe | isp's filter netbios.. |
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| 23:25.03 | Phil4 | not all ISPs, bkjoe |
| 23:25.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | "put"? |
| 23:25.11 | nick4 | mine doesn't |
| 23:25.28 | Phil4 | mine doesn't either |
| 23:25.28 | unitypunk | in and out phill4/ |
| 23:25.28 | unitypunk | ??? |
| 23:25.33 | Phil4 | in and out what, unitypunk? |
| 23:25.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | err, mput |
| 23:25.52 | unitypunk | ALLOW INBOUND AND OUTBOUND traffic |
| 23:25.55 | unitypunk | pardon caps |
| 23:26.23 | Phil4 | yes |
| 23:26.34 | nick4 | CutMeOwnThroat: CutMeOwnThroat assuming I want to actually upload many files and not just a dir. mput * doesn't work |
| 23:27.32 | ramzi123 | anyone instaled linux on a macbook |
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| 23:29.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | nick4, I don't think there's recursion for that as such... I don't see any in the manpage or the internal help |
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| 23:30.03 | nick4 | CutMeOwnThroat: yes, me neither :-/ I just came here because I hoped that I missed something on the manual and google. |
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| 23:31.03 | mnuhmnuh | nick4: tried gftp? gui, but useful. |
| 23:31.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | guess you can alway do something like p=password; find . -type f -exec lftp your.host -u user,$p -c put '{}' some/additional/path/'{}' \; |
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| 23:31.50 | nkuttler | nick4: ncftpput does recursive uploads |
| 23:31.56 | nkuttler | nick4: at least in unstable .. |
| 23:32.23 | ramzi123 | anyone instaled linux on a macbook |
| 23:32.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | right, in lenny, too mput -R |
| 23:32.34 | nkuttler | ramzi123: ask the google |
| 23:33.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | nick4, actually, lcftp has "mirror -R"? |
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| 23:34.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | lftp* |
| 23:34.02 | petemc | ramzi123: http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook |
| 23:34.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | nick4, "help mirror" within lftp |
| 23:35.20 | nick4 | yes, thank you CutMeOwnThroat |
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| 23:35.28 | nick4 | just don't cut my throat :P |
| 23:35.33 | nick4 | sorry, lame joke |
| 23:36.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell nick4 -about dibbler |
| 23:37.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | saussage inna bun? they've hardly gone green at all |
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| 23:38.23 | cusco | hi |
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| 23:38.31 | jaggz | why's Xorg taking 78% cpu? |
| 23:38.37 | jaggz | my computer's hot :( |
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| 23:38.51 | nick4 | okey CutMeOwnThroat, I got the memo :) |
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| 23:39.13 | jaggz | oh.. it was this build of audacity which is broken.. damn. |
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| 23:39.26 | cusco | I once read something on linuxformat about some line that you could add to .bashrc to make the kernel use somewhat more than usual xyz of physical memory, before using swap |
| 23:39.29 | cusco | any hints? |
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| 23:40.11 | beardy | !swappiness |
| 23:40.11 | dpkg | somebody said swappiness was A number of Linux kernel developers debated "swappiness" - exploring when an application should or should not be swapped out, versus reclaiming memory from the cache. http://kerneltrap.org/node/3000 http://kerneltrap.org/node/3202 http://kerneltrap.org/node/3660 |
| 23:41.14 | nan8 | how do i get my umts/hsda flat to work with debian? |
| 23:42.10 | cusco | thanks beardy |
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| 23:49.20 | unitypunk | Phil4, you around still |
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| 23:49.26 | Phil4 | yip |
| 23:49.33 | unitypunk | i opened the port. |
| 23:49.37 | Phil4 | mmhmm |
| 23:49.51 | unitypunk | and i still cant find a share at unity.hopto.org |
| 23:50.32 | unitypunk | i can ssh to it though. |
| 23:50.41 | unitypunk | and telnet |
| 23:51.03 | Phil4 | phil@127dot0dot0dot1:~$ telnet unity.hopto.org 139 |
| 23:51.03 | Phil4 | Trying 66.237.95.41... |
| 23:51.03 | Phil4 | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No route to host |
| 23:51.03 | Phil4 | phil@127dot0dot0dot1:~$ |
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| 23:51.06 | Phil4 | oops |
| 23:51.10 | Phil4 | looks firewalled |
| 23:51.29 | unitypunk | telnet is for my eggdrop |
| 23:51.34 | unitypunk | different port. |
| 23:51.53 | Phil4 | I was just using it as a means of connecting via TCP to port 139 |
| 23:52.14 | Phil4 | and the packets are being blocked by, I can only assume, a firewall |
| 23:52.32 | unitypunk | except they arent :( |
| 23:52.45 | beardy | cusco: If you don't want any swapping to happen (only using the swap for hibernation), add "vm.swappiness=0" in /etc/sysctl.conf, 'sysctl -w vm.swappiness=0' to set it now, without a reboot. A value of 1-100 if you want to use your swap for regular swapping, the higher the number, the more the swap will be used. |
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| 23:53.03 | Phil4 | as bkjoe suggested, your ISP may be doing it |
| 23:53.36 | unitypunk | oh crap. |
| 23:53.41 | unitypunk | missed a check b0x |
| 23:53.43 | unitypunk | box* |
| 23:53.44 | unitypunk | lol |
| 23:53.46 | beardy | cusco: 'cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness' to see the current value, mine was 60 on one machine. |
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| 23:54.02 | Phil4 | I still can't connect to it |
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| 23:54.48 | unitypunk | i cant either.. |
| 23:55.08 | unitypunk | im sure its enabled right now. |
| 23:56.19 | Phil4 | it's not sending a no route to host message now |
| 23:56.26 | Phil4 | something is just dropping packets |
| 23:57.11 | unitypunk | try ssh to unity.hopt0.org |
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| 23:57.18 | unitypunk | *unity.hopto.org |
| 23:57.29 | Phil4 | yup |
| 23:57.32 | nan8 | hmm - i guess my real problem is that i don't know the apn |
| 23:57.46 | unitypunk | apn? |
| 23:58.31 | unitypunk | ssh works right phill? |
| 23:58.36 | Phil4 | yup |
| 23:58.48 | unitypunk | same box. |
| 23:58.51 | unitypunk | same settings |
| 23:58.54 | unitypunk | different port. |
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| 23:59.28 | Phil4 | no firewall on the box itself? |
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| 23:59.34 | unitypunk | uh |
| 23:59.38 | unitypunk | not that im aware of |
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| 23:59.45 | paissad-hp | hi all |
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