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| 00:14.19 | rgr | xrdb -query as root and as a normal user shows exactly the same even though I ran xrdb -merge as different users with different resource files. Why is that? |
| 00:15.00 | srart | I'm having a problem with a 32 bit app in my 64 bit system. Most of my 32 bit stuff is fine, but I have one program that is trying to load the 64 bit version of a library, then complaining about the wrong elf class. I have verified I have the 32 bit version of the file in /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib. Any ideas on how to get it to use the correct library? |
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| 00:16.52 | DexterF | hi |
| 00:17.08 | fas3r | somebody strong in regex :p |
| 00:17.10 | fas3r | ? |
| 00:17.57 | DexterF | I just hooked up my nForce3Gb250 NIC to my brand new GB switch, but I can't get the NIC to talk to any other machine. it won't even get a dhcp lease. module used is forcedeth. any advice? |
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| 00:18.17 | DexterF | machine runs etch |
| 00:18.54 | srart | I can handle regex, but I would strongly suggest the new oreilly regex book, and jgsoft's editpad and regexbuddy |
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| 00:21.05 | fas3r | i have 2 files, test1 and test2. test1 and test2 have two column and 3 lines. i need to calcul the value of test1 colunm 1, lines 2+ the value of test2 colunm 1, lines 2... if you have an idea :) |
| 00:21.32 | jonathanpoon | hey guys...I recently did a dist-upgrade to squeeze and the system also installed a the newer 2.6.26-2-686-bigmem kernel. When I boot with the new kernel, it does not see my software raid |
| 00:21.50 | jonathanpoon | is there something I am missing that I need to do after the new kernel is installed? |
| 00:22.13 | jonathanpoon | I ran update-initramfs -u and it creates a initrd-2.6.26-2-686-bigmem, but it didn't work as well |
| 00:23.14 | sohum | how do I put spaces in the apt-pin o= line? |
| 00:23.55 | srart | fas3r: not quite understanding, put up a small data example |
| 00:24.19 | srart | but already I would say awk is probably what you want. |
| 00:25.12 | fas3r | srart: ok i pastbin it an example of file |
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| 00:27.03 | sohum | never mind, it was working but being overriden by the stable line |
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| 00:29.30 | fas3r | srart: http://pastebin.com/m4bf47fca |
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| 00:37.30 | fas3r | srart: do you understand what i want to do with the pastebin ? |
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| 00:38.17 | srart | yep |
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| 00:38.37 | srart | http://www.vectorsite.net/tsawk_3.html#m1 is the tutorial. |
| 00:39.18 | srart | What you want to do, is copy the contents of both files into one file (read them both into memory as one file) |
| 00:39.42 | fas3r | yes |
| 00:41.00 | srart | find all lines that match on the first column, grab the second column and add |
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| 00:41.34 | srart | print the first column out and the total of that match. |
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| 00:42.03 | srart | make sure that you either erase the lines as you read them or keep a table of what has already been read |
| 00:42.05 | abrotman | fas3r: and you must do this in shell ? |
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| 00:42.21 | srart | repeat process with next uniq first column |
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| 00:42.40 | fas3r | abrotman: you have better solution ? if you have i can try if it's more easy :) |
| 00:42.55 | srart | it's not a regex problem, more of a proceadural program type thing. |
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| 00:43.07 | abrotman | fas3r: i'm just asking .. i mean .. is it always going to be Wireless1, Wireless2 .. WirelessN ? |
| 00:43.21 | fas3r | abrotman: yes is it |
| 00:43.23 | abrotman | and will both files have tghe same first columns ? |
| 00:43.34 | fas3r | N file like you said :) |
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| 00:44.28 | fas3r | it's report from python script on N wireless devices ... |
| 00:44.34 | acu | I have a dual AMD the cpu fan runs continously - I know the flash is screwed - so usually if I close the webrowser was OK - now it goes on - my Gnome -System monitor does not work - what should I do - is any other system monitor |
| 00:44.50 | srart | fas3r: is this for yourself, as a convienience, a work tool, or a school project |
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| 00:45.07 | fas3r | work / school |
| 00:45.13 | abrotman | it can't be both! |
| 00:45.21 | fas3r | ;) |
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| 00:45.46 | srart | will anyone else ever see this code, or can it just be ugly dirty and just work? |
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| 00:46.18 | fas3r | it's a project for school at work |
| 00:46.29 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: teacher = work/school |
| 00:46.31 | abrotman | huh ? |
| 00:46.40 | abrotman | jpinx-eeepc: teacher should know how :) |
| 00:46.57 | jpinx-eeepc | heh - should != does |
| 00:47.08 | abrotman | IIRC there's a command that can take column1 from one file and column2 from another file |
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| 00:47.11 | srart | that conceptual model I gave you is the correct answer for school. |
| 00:47.32 | freenose | Hi, where can I disable the system bell? |
| 00:47.39 | srart | abrotman: awk, not sure about anything else. |
| 00:47.45 | abrotman | no .. something else |
| 00:47.49 | abrotman | !tell freenose about bell |
| 00:47.57 | peterrooney | freenose: on the motherboard |
| 00:47.59 | srart | freenose: pull the plug from the speaker. |
| 00:48.07 | fas3r | it's my final step after this i'm done :p |
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| 00:49.27 | abrotman | fas3r: i'd imagine if you ask #bash .. they'd have a quick answer |
| 00:49.30 | freenose | abrotman: thanks |
| 00:49.33 | srart | cut pulls columns, but since it's dependant on the first column, its an entire program. |
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| 00:50.40 | fas3r | it's i dont understand how i can take a columns from a file and paste it on a other file |
| 00:50.54 | srart | though you may get away with a grep loop and cut. pipe those together with bc |
| 00:51.02 | fas3r | i know how to add two columns but not from an other file :p |
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| 00:51.33 | srart | read them all in at once and then do stuff. read file, then append other file. |
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| 00:54.39 | fas3r | i can do a for.. in .. with a grep in all file on the second colunm .... redirect it in a file for all file in column (with awk maybe ..) |
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| 00:55.57 | srart | fas3r: start here, nice tutorial of how to do data manipulation with little tools all strung together. http://lowfatlinux.com/linux-columns-cut.html |
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| 00:56.25 | Eitan | Need help: I'm running a debian live cd. I have a debian drive that has i/o errors, but the file system is still readable. I want to burn the files from the hard drive to a dvd. The "cd/dvd creator" that comes with gnome is not working. The package manager cannot find k3b. I need help! What can I do? |
| 00:57.15 | srart | fas3r: Pay special attention to the cruncing data section (a few links in) |
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| 00:57.38 | srart | Eitan: growisofs |
| 00:58.03 | Eitan | srart: what? |
| 00:59.07 | srart | man and google are your friends. I don't remeber the invocation, but it will burn a cd/dvd |
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| 00:59.28 | Eitan | I was hoping to find a friend here. |
| 00:59.54 | Eitan | Can anyone help me with burning a cd when running a debian live cd? |
| 01:00.12 | abrotman | might need the dvd+rw-tools ? |
| 01:00.48 | fas3r | srart: ok nice thank ;) |
| 01:00.50 | Eitan | abrotman: would that be command line or in gnome? |
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| 01:03.16 | abrotman | that'd be a package |
| 01:03.46 | Eitan | abrotman: that's my point... the debian live cd that I'm using doesn't seem to recognize any packages that are not already on the cd. |
| 01:04.45 | srart | Eitan: did you run aptitude update? |
| 01:04.59 | Eitan | srart: let me try that... hold on. |
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| 01:05.33 | srart | then aptitude install <package> |
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| 01:06.07 | lindenle | hi, in squeeze when I try to sleep my laptop i get a warning that says it is administorly disabled |
| 01:07.04 | Eitan | srart: that worked. I'm going to try installing and using k3b. |
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| 01:07.40 | srart | have fun. Glad to help |
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| 01:11.48 | cryptoD | hi qll |
| 01:11.50 | cryptoD | all |
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| 01:14.05 | cryptoD | i have a problem with debian 5.02 (all english), i have only one keyboard layout and its french(azerty) but when i log in the keyboard is set to qwerty even if the gnome lan applet tells me that im using french. any ideas ? |
| 01:14.22 | cryptoD | lang applet * |
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| 01:16.34 | cryptoD | no one ? |
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| 01:18.42 | cryptoD | i have a problem with debian 5.02 (all english), i have only one keyboard layout and its french(azerty) but when i log in the keyboard is set to qwerty even if the gnome lang applet tells me that im using french. any ideas ? |
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| 01:18.42 | abrotman | you just said that |
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| 01:18.53 | abrotman | !keymap |
| 01:18.53 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap", or ask me about <drxx> or use kcontrol, gnome-control-center or similar. For setting up X keymaps, also check out xkeycaps and xev, or ask me about <multimedia keys>. In console you can also use "loadkeys" for once-only/temporary adjustments. |
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| 01:19.47 | cryptoD | Okay thx i'll see |
| 01:20.03 | Nwallins | Hi, I upgraded an xfce lenny install to testing, but I lost some xfce icons in the process. I have tried to dpkg-reconfigure several xfce packages to no avail |
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| 01:20.41 | Nwallins | i am missing some context menu icons, the terminal icon on the 'dock', and another dock icon that I didn't use before |
| 01:22.01 | billybigrigger | hey all, quick question, i installed the lenny live image to a usb drive, and now i have setup another linux on the flash drive, but when i boot the usb disk, it still boots to the debianlive image...even after running setup (hd3,1) at my grub prompt...any suggestions? |
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| 01:22.17 | digitalirony | hello |
| 01:22.21 | TheCoffeMaker | Hi, just a simple question, I'm trying to install ia32-apt-get but I can't find it. I'm trying to pin with testing and unstable ... someone knows how can I get it? |
| 01:22.33 | digitalirony | was wondering if someone could help me out with xdmcp issues? |
| 01:22.38 | digitalirony | ^^ using gdm |
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| 01:23.14 | digitalirony | looking at the debug, I am getting "Session already managed" |
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| 01:24.37 | Bravewolf | Hello all. Are there plans/projects to modify deb format to: 1) use lzma or bzip2 instead of gzip (to save bandwidth) ; 2) allow incremental upgrades (again to save bandwidth) ? AFAIK current deb format is more than 10 years old... |
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| 01:26.14 | abrotman | Bravewolf: i saw an analysis of lzma vs gzip .. havne't seen anything about binary deltas |
| 01:26.25 | abrotman | but bandwidth is cheap! |
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| 01:27.45 | paissad-hp | hi everybody ! |
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| 01:27.59 | paissad-hp | i would like to kill X , here is what i did |
| 01:28.00 | paissad-hp | ps ax | grep -r '/usr/bin/X' | grep -v grep | awk '{print $1}' | xargs kill -9 |
| 01:28.15 | paissad-hp | but the matter is that X comes back again :( |
| 01:28.15 | abrotman | jebus .. pgrep ? |
| 01:28.19 | abrotman | pidof ? |
| 01:28.29 | abrotman | paissad-hp: /etc/init.d/?dm stop |
| 01:28.37 | DexterF | anyone happen to know if etch's 2.6.22 kernel supports the realtek 8169 gbe chip? |
| 01:28.38 | Bravewolf | abrotman: yes... it's cheap ad long as you have a DSL line and the mirror doesn't have congestion. Sometimes happened to me to need to install some new packages, but the only connect was the old 56k. Too slow! ... where you read about lzma/bzip2 vs gzip? |
| 01:28.39 | paissad-hp | yes , you're right |
| 01:28.43 | paissad-hp | abrotman, thx |
| 01:29.15 | abrotman | Bravewolf: http://planet.debian.org/cgi-bin/search.cgi?terms=lzma .. i'm sure it'll show up |
| 01:29.24 | Bravewolf | abrotman: fortunately now I've an adsl, but sometimes where i'm not at home I can have high seed internet |
| 01:29.37 | Bravewolf | abrotman: ok, thanks. i'll try to find it |
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| 01:30.22 | abrotman | Bravewolf: i understand .. i used to be on dial-up .. but i'd usually do stuff at night like that (for updates) |
| 01:30.36 | abrotman | DexterF: etch doesn't have a .22 ? |
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| 01:31.33 | abrotman | DexterF: etch has a .18 and etchnhalf has a .24 .. and we'd need the PCIID |
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| 01:32.23 | kazzy | I'm looking for a way to convert Debian packages (32-bit) to be used on a 64-bit system |
| 01:32.26 | paissad-hp | there's something else i would like to do ... i want to startx using my simple user, but the system says that |
| 01:32.27 | paissad-hp | error in locking authority file /home/paissad/.Xauthority |
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| 01:32.41 | paissad-hp | X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. |
| 01:32.47 | paissad-hp | i'm using ssh ! |
| 01:33.13 | paissad-hp | i want to start X via ssh , the X of desktop-server station |
| 01:33.19 | kazzy | now, I know I can use "getlibs", that works. however, I'd prefer if I didn't have to do the work of APT |
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| 01:34.09 | paissad-hp | i need to open a web-browser from the server station, i need to start X |
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| 01:35.21 | paissad-hp | but if i start X as root, it does work, but i see that the settings for the window manager is different from the simple user, it's like i just installed the system |
| 01:35.55 | DexterF | abrotman: havent bought the card yet, so... weird, uname gives me a .22 kernel... |
| 01:36.07 | abrotman | kazzy: which package is it ? |
| 01:36.30 | kazzy | abrotman: gstreamer and all dependencies |
| 01:36.41 | abrotman | but gstreamer was built on amd64 ? |
| 01:36.53 | kazzy | but I am running a 64-bit Debian |
| 01:37.20 | abrotman | yes .. gstreamer is available for amd64 |
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| 01:37.44 | kazzy | Yes, it is, but I would prefer to be able to run 32-bit apps which depend on gstreamer |
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| 01:38.17 | abrotman | i don't see how what you're trying to do would help |
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| 01:39.04 | kazzy | what do you mean? "getlibs" lets me install ANY 32-bit package, and it's converted properly |
| 01:39.32 | kazzy | I just don't want the headache of downloading and converting approximately 50 packages |
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| 01:40.48 | fas3r | i have an other problem :) more easy this time :p my problem is one line on two i have no value (example: http://pastebin.com/m374bf455) |
| 01:41.04 | abrotman | kazzy: it's nto converted |
| 01:41.10 | fas3r | if you know how i can copy the name of router and the status (Up) on the second and fourth line ... :p |
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| 01:41.20 | kazzy | abrotman: what do you mean, it's not converted? |
| 01:41.32 | abrotman | fas3r: ask #bash |
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| 01:42.04 | kazzy | abrotman: no, the binary format is not converted |
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| 01:42.14 | digitalirony | Can anyone help me out with why I am getting "DEBUG: gdm_xdmcp_handle_manage: Session id 488289151 already managed" when I try to connect with xdmcp? |
| 01:42.16 | kazzy | I /want/ the 32-bit version. |
| 01:42.18 | abrotman | kazzy: for which version of debian ? |
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| 01:42.34 | kazzy | abrotman: Debian Lenny amd64 |
| 01:43.15 | kazzy | amd64, is also compatible with 32-bit binaries. However, you can't simply run a 32-bit binary without the supporting libraries |
| 01:43.36 | abrotman | kazzy: it doesn't convert anything .. it installs 32bit libraries |
| 01:43.42 | abrotman | AIUI getlibs anyways |
| 01:43.52 | kazzy | exactly |
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| 01:44.13 | paissad-hp | guys, how can i run X via ssh as a simple user, i don't want to run X as root knowing that it does work if i do so |
| 01:44.19 | paissad-hp | thanks in advance |
| 01:44.22 | kazzy | but conversion takes place, otherwise you'd overwrite libraries in /usr/lib |
| 01:44.24 | abrotman | !sshx |
| 01:44.24 | dpkg | You can run X11 apps over an ssh connection so that neither <xhost> nor X tcp support are necessary. Enable X11Forwarding *on the remote server* (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth (lenny) or xbase-clients (etch) on both the client and the server. Then "ssh -X" from the client and run X apps on the remote machine. Authorisation is only given to your remote user to connect and $DISPLAY is set. Also ask me about <root x>. |
| 01:44.34 | abrotman | kazzy: or it puts them in a different place ? |
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| 01:44.49 | kazzy | it has to |
| 01:45.24 | paissad-hp | abrotman, that's what i did |
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| 01:45.31 | BillGay | http://www.crankup.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/7.jpg |
| 01:45.35 | kazzy | basically, what I want to know is if there is a dependency-resolving version of getlibs |
| 01:45.38 | paissad-hp | i did " ssh -X -2 paissad-server |
| 01:45.47 | abrotman | BillGay: don't spam here |
| 01:45.59 | abrotman | kazzy: AIUI .. that's what it's supposed to do |
| 01:46.24 | kazzy | it doesn't |
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| 01:47.10 | paissad-hp | !root x |
| 01:47.10 | dpkg | If you need to run an X application as root (or another user), ask me about <sux> <gksu> <sshx> <mit-magic-cookie> <xauth> or look at kdesu and gksudo. Whatever you do, don't use <xhost> or try <running x as root>! |
| 01:47.15 | abrotman | kazzy: you could create a 32bit chroot |
| 01:47.35 | kazzy | yeah, I've done that, but it's somewhat of a pain. there are no truly multiarch distributions |
| 01:47.44 | pipeline | !xhost |
| 01:47.44 | dpkg | methinks xhost is EVIL! There are so many other ways of getting remote X apps to work that xhost should never be needed. For a more sensible approach, use ssh X11 forwarding (ask me about <sshx>). Also see <mit-magic-cookie>, http://www.acm.uiuc.edu/workshops/cool_unix/xauth.html <nolisten> and "apt-cache show xbase-clients | grep xhost". To run applications on your local machine as another user, see <root x>. See also <xhost +localhost>. |
| 01:47.55 | pipeline | mit-magic-cookie hahahah worst idea ever |
| 01:47.57 | abrotman | please don't use xhost |
| 01:48.08 | pipeline | xhost + |
| 01:48.12 | abrotman | pipeline: it's better than using xhost |
| 01:48.32 | Nwallins | I figured out my missing icon issue, apt-get install xfce4. now i have some 'extra' packages in `dpkg -l 'xfce4*'` -- (pn) xfce4-mcs-plugin; (un) xfce4-mixer-alsa; (un) xfce4-mixer-oss |
| 01:48.53 | abrotman | kazzy: debian is trying .. squeeze/sid have better support for it (though seems buggy currently) |
| 01:49.10 | Nwallins | should i do anything about 'pn' or 'un' items as reported by dpkg -l? |
| 01:49.31 | kazzy | abrotman: have you heard of ia32-apt-get? it seems to do what I would like, but it is horribly unstable and usually fails |
| 01:49.33 | pipeline | kazzy: SuSE and RHEL install 32 bit versions of most applications in 64 bit. That's not to say that it is helpful to do that :P |
| 01:49.33 | abrotman | it means they're not installed |
| 01:49.39 | abrotman | kazzy: that's what i'm talking about |
| 01:49.53 | kazzy | err, that's the thing, I could care less about the applications |
| 01:50.00 | pipeline | I actually run a 64 bit kernel, with a 32 bit userland, and a 64 bit chroot. |
| 01:50.09 | pipeline | the number of times I need 64 bit tools is pretty small |
| 01:50.11 | paissad-hp | !sshx |
| 01:50.11 | dpkg | You can run X11 apps over an ssh connection so that neither <xhost> nor X tcp support are necessary. Enable X11Forwarding *on the remote server* (/etc/ssh/sshd_config) and install xauth (lenny) or xbase-clients (etch) on both the client and the server. Then "ssh -X" from the client and run X apps on the remote machine. Authorisation is only given to your remote user to connect and $DISPLAY is set. Also ask me about <root x>. |
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| 01:50.38 | digitalirony | heh,is that no one knows anything about xdmcp? I can't really find anything on it |
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| 01:50.54 | pipeline | digitalirony: XDMCP isn't very useful in this day and age |
| 01:51.04 | digitalirony | whats better? |
| 01:51.07 | digitalirony | don't say vnc :X |
| 01:51.21 | pipeline | digitalirony: ?? vnc and xdmcp are not comparable |
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| 01:51.27 | digitalirony | I know that |
| 01:51.29 | pipeline | digitalirony: so the thing about xdmcp is that it doesn't like, err, abstract your session or anything |
| 01:51.34 | digitalirony | thats why I didn't want that as an answer |
| 01:51.41 | pipeline | digitalirony: it just handles the authentication bits to get your X-terminal running. |
| 01:51.46 | digitalirony | well what can I use thats better? |
| 01:51.54 | pipeline | huh ? |
| 01:51.57 | pipeline | run your X session locally |
| 01:52.02 | pipeline | remote X11 is painful nowadays |
| 01:52.06 | pipeline | client-side fonts ;_; |
| 01:52.08 | kazzy | now, does anyone know how to set APT to a different root for installing packages? |
| 01:52.26 | digitalirony | well, I really need to login to a remote X server :X |
| 01:52.28 | pipeline | digitalirony: there's also NoMachine NX, but that's semi-proprietary and a pain in the ass to set up. |
| 01:52.32 | kazzy | this is clearly possible, and I will figure it out myself if I must (but it's not very documented) |
| 01:52.34 | pipeline | digitalirony: err, ssh -X |
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| 01:52.59 | digitalirony | I need to be able to do it from a windows machine |
| 01:53.02 | pipeline | digitalirony: if you need to start a complete X session, use Xnest or Xephyr to get a nested X server and start your window manager or session manager or whatever as your first client through ssh -X |
| 01:53.14 | pipeline | digitalirony: ssh runs on windows just like X11 does :P |
| 01:53.15 | abrotman | kazzy: you can manually extract packages |
| 01:53.47 | kazzy | abrotman: yeah, yeah, I know |
| 01:53.57 | abrotman | kazzy: AFAIK.. no way to have apt do it for you |
| 01:54.03 | kazzy | which means I can wrap a perl script to do it for me, but I /will/ have apt do it for me |
| 01:54.04 | Cryptic_Donkey | I waged war on my Hp officejet 6310 mfp lastnight, God i was up untill well past 1:00am fiddling with hpoj and hplip |
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| 01:54.38 | paissad-hp | via ssh, here what i have, is this correct ? |
| 01:54.39 | paissad-hp | paissad@paissad-server:~$ env | grep -i display |
| 01:54.39 | paissad-hp | DISPLAY=localhost:10.0 |
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| 01:55.07 | paissad-hp | but still when i run X (startx) , i have a problem of autorisation , the same matter |
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| 01:56.25 | paissad-hp | into my /etc/ssh/ssh_config, here is a part of the config ! |
| 01:56.26 | paissad-hp | http://pastebin.com/ff279d78 |
| 01:56.37 | abrotman | paissad-hp: can you start a single GUI app ? |
| 01:56.55 | paissad-hp | abrotman, dunno what you really mean ? |
| 01:56.59 | paissad-hp | tty ? |
| 01:57.23 | paissad-hp | sorry for the pastebin, i was wrong, you saw it :) |
| 01:58.58 | paissad-hp | http://pastebin.com/f3f7539c8 |
| 01:59.24 | paissad-hp | X11 forwading is enabled |
| 02:00.38 | paissad-hp | abrotman, actually, i want the display to be onto the screen of the server, not into my laptopo |
| 02:00.40 | paissad-hp | laptop* |
| 02:00.41 | Nwallins | abrotman: i thought dpkg -l listed installed packages? should i clean up the non-ii entries? |
| 02:00.47 | Nwallins | or install them? |
| 02:00.51 | paissad-hp | i was not clear enough, sorry again |
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| 02:01.47 | abrotman | Nwallins: it lists other status also |
| 02:01.52 | Nwallins | is there a guide to what ii vs un vs pn means, besides the dpkg -l output header? |
| 02:02.05 | abrotman | Nwallins: yeah .. at the top of the dpkg -l |
| 02:02.13 | Nwallins | the output header :) |
| 02:02.24 | abrotman | what's worng with that ? |
| 02:02.50 | Nwallins | what does purge mean? i know what apt-get purge means |
| 02:03.01 | Nwallins | as in, pn |
| 02:03.27 | abrotman | man dpkg ? |
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| 02:03.49 | Nwallins | i looked, not anything under -l |
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| 02:04.29 | paissad-hp | maybe it's not ssh i should use, but a vnc server/client |
| 02:04.40 | Nwallins | i could not find any info about the columns |
| 02:04.43 | abrotman | sounds more like what you're trying to do |
| 02:04.50 | abrotman | Nwallins: those are the package states |
| 02:05.25 | Nwallins | how can i find out what p/Purge means? |
| 02:06.45 | Nwallins | also, why are Unknown pkgs being listed? |
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| 02:19.30 | paissad-hp | what must i do if i wan to reconfigure cups into it's defaults settings ? |
| 02:19.37 | paissad-hp | a reinstallation ? |
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| 02:26.23 | DeepFrz | I've just (almost) installed Debian, stable release and it hangs asking me to insert my next install disk. This is just at the point where it is going to install Grub. This is the 3rd time I 've tried the install with slightly different results. Is there any way I can recover without going through the whole process again? |
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| 02:27.33 | abrotman | next install disc ? |
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| 02:27.48 | abrotman | what's the error that you get when you boot ? |
| 02:28.15 | DeepFrz | abrotman: sorry, the install cd #2. The CDrom is locked and wont open |
| 02:28.32 | abrotman | just tell it you don't hve anymore |
| 02:28.34 | DeepFrz | abrotman: it will only boot from the cd |
| 02:28.38 | KNY | hey folks, I feel stupid but I'm trying to install 5.0.2 but I don't have a CD rom drive. How can I get that ISO onto a usb drive so I can boot it via USB? |
| 02:28.41 | abrotman | you can have it do the rest later |
| 02:28.45 | abrotman | !usb install |
| 02:28.45 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. (Older, outdated article at http://d-i.pascal.at/) |
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| 02:28.53 | KNY | yay, thanks abrotman |
| 02:29.12 | superjoe | is there a way I can use the debian package manager on a system in which I don't have root? can I bootstrap some kind of fake root? |
| 02:29.12 | abrotman | KNY: the install guide lists a few methods |
| 02:29.28 | abrotman | superjoe: maybe wiht a chroot |
| 02:29.35 | abrotman | eh .. no i bet not |
| 02:29.41 | DeepFrz | abrotman: so it's the whole install again then as the only option? |
| 02:29.45 | abrotman | you can manually unpack your .deb files |
| 02:29.50 | abrotman | !rescue |
| 02:29.50 | dpkg | rescue is probably at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ ("Can I use d-i as a rescue system?"). Ask me about <rescue mode>. See also <fixmbr> and <i forgot root's password>. |
| 02:30.32 | DeepFrz | okay, thanks, I'll take a look |
| 02:30.38 | superjoe | abrotman: it's not a rescue deal, it's a shared host |
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| 02:30.59 | abrotman | superjoe: that wasn't for you |
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| 02:31.13 | abrotman | i'm not sure if aptitude would work in a chroot or not |
| 02:31.32 | superjoe | ah |
| 02:32.21 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: aptitude worked for me in a chroot |
| 02:32.45 | abrotman | did you need root? |
| 02:32.49 | jpinx-eeepc | but i am never sure if it is called from with the chroot or from outside |
| 02:32.56 | jpinx-eeepc | yes - I was root |
| 02:33.05 | abrotman | he's trying to not be root .. |
| 02:33.12 | abrotman | though .. maybe hecould be root in the chroot .. |
| 02:33.18 | abrotman | time to explore! |
| 02:33.27 | superjoe | # chroot . |
| 02:33.27 | superjoe | chroot: cannot change root directory to .: Operation not permitted |
| 02:33.28 | jpinx-eeepc | ah - ok - that's not going to work |
| 02:33.31 | superjoe | I'm afraid not :( |
| 02:33.54 | jpinx-eeepc | chroot is always root when you're in there |
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| 02:34.08 | superjoe | hmm? |
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| 02:34.19 | jpinx-eeepc | I don't think you can be anything else within a chroot |
| 02:34.33 | jpinx-eeepc | but I could be wronf |
| 02:34.34 | superjoe | I don't have permission to use chroot |
| 02:34.39 | jpinx-eeepc | wrong -- even |
| 02:34.42 | dmoerner | no, you can be a regular user using dchroot or schroot |
| 02:35.02 | superjoe | ah thanks I'll try that |
| 02:35.04 | jpinx-eeepc | dmoerner: Ah '- ok - that could be useful |
| 02:35.06 | dmoerner | you could also just chroot su user |
| 02:35.07 | abrotman | fakechroot ? |
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| 02:43.21 | ajavid | good freakin' evenin' |
| 02:43.31 | ajavid | whats goin' on in the world of debian |
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| 02:44.53 | Cope57 | Not much, just hanging out in the room of 864 idle individuals. ;) |
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| 02:45.36 | gravity | Standards Versioning in the hizzie |
| 02:47.21 | ajavid | word |
| 02:47.38 | ajavid | I was feeling shitty earlier, back hurt |
| 02:47.44 | ajavid | I am now on 60mg codiene and feeling pretty alright |
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| 02:47.57 | ajavid | Titan8990, I may have gotten short with you earlier, I apologize. |
| 02:51.21 | ajavid | almost 10pm |
| 02:52.24 | KNY | hey guys, I followed the "easy way" instructions at ( http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 ) but the installer can't find the ISO image. It's in the root of the flash drive. What did I miss? |
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| 02:57.17 | jeeves_Moss | why does this process "/usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -" user ~40% of my CPU time, and ~30% of my RAM |
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| 03:00.17 | ajavid | KNY, I've never attempted a usb install myself, however the sheer number of people coming in here and having the same problem as you is staggering |
| 03:00.39 | ajavid | I'm not sure why so many people have this same issue about not finding the ISO file on the usb after booting the installer |
| 03:00.56 | KNY | ajavid, :-/ |
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| 03:01.09 | ajavid | KNY, the one fix I've heard about in this channel is to go to tty2 and mount the iso manually to the location debian would normally mount it and move forward from there |
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| 03:01.27 | ajavid | KNY, and to get the actual menu options you might have to change your debconf priority to medium at least |
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| 03:03.35 | ajavid | KNY, do you _have_ to do a usb install? |
| 03:03.48 | KNY | ajavid, I don't have an external cdrom drive |
| 03:03.51 | ajavid | KNY, simplest way is to use a burned cd, or if you have an OS already, you can start the installer from there |
| 03:03.59 | ajavid | windows or linux, either would work |
| 03:04.08 | KNY | no os |
| 03:04.10 | KNY | new server |
| 03:04.12 | ajavid | debootstrap, netboot, goodbye-microsoft |
| 03:04.14 | ajavid | hmm |
| 03:04.30 | dondelelcaro | KNY: what does ls -l; report when you've mounted the usb filesystem on it? |
| 03:04.42 | dondelelcaro | KNY: what is the output on tty3 or 4 when it can't find the iso? |
| 03:05.27 | dondelelcaro | (almost every time it's because someone hasn't actually followed the directions correctly; the usb install method does work) |
| 03:05.33 | ajavid | 4 is output, 2 and 3 are busybox shells, right? |
| 03:05.42 | dondelelcaro | normally |
| 03:05.58 | dondelelcaro | I'm just too used to there only being one shell |
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| 03:06.35 | KNY | dondelelcaro, ls -l reports the ISO in the flash drive root |
| 03:06.47 | dondelelcaro | KNY: which iso is it? |
| 03:06.54 | KNY | 502 businesscard |
| 03:07.00 | dondelelcaro | oh, there's your problem. |
| 03:07.05 | KNY | oh wait sorry |
| 03:07.06 | KNY | netinst |
| 03:07.08 | ajavid | you can't use a businesscard? |
| 03:07.09 | dondelelcaro | KNY: you can't use the business card iso. |
| 03:07.11 | KNY | amd64 |
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| 03:07.17 | ajavid | did not know that |
| 03:07.28 | KNY | dondelelcaro, sorry, it's actually the netinst one |
| 03:07.29 | ajavid | (I've never used a business card iso) |
| 03:07.39 | dondelelcaro | KNY: and you used the amd64 boot.img? |
| 03:08.06 | KNY | oh.. heh :) |
| 03:08.07 | dondelelcaro | KNY: give me the output of ls -l in the root directory of the usb key, along with the contents of syslinux.cfg |
| 03:08.13 | KNY | the guide links to the i386 folder |
| 03:08.24 | dondelelcaro | that's because you're reading the i386 guide |
| 03:08.26 | KNY | let me try again with the amd64 boot.img |
| 03:08.29 | KNY | yeah, sorry |
| 03:08.43 | KNY | it's been a long day (that's my excuse and I'm sticking with it! :P ) |
| 03:09.12 | dondelelcaro | KNY: no worries; in the future, the output in tty4 or 5 is often informative; it'll tell you exactly what filenames it's looking for) |
| 03:09.31 | KNY | awesome, thanks for the tip |
| 03:10.08 | paissad-hp | how can i know which package contains /usr/lib/*/*/lpd |
| 03:10.10 | paissad-hp | ? |
| 03:10.15 | dmoerner | paissad-hp: apt-file |
| 03:10.23 | dondelelcaro | !tell paissad-hp -about search |
| 03:10.27 | paissad-hp | ok thanks |
| 03:10.44 | ajavid | KNY, oops! |
| 03:10.45 | ajavid | :) |
| 03:11.11 | ajavid | KNY, install guides are arch specific (becuase of so many archs) |
| 03:11.14 | ajavid | 13 is it? or 11 |
| 03:11.23 | paissad-hp | dondelelcaro, i've searched before, i did apt-cache search and show |
| 03:11.24 | ajavid | something like that anyway |
| 03:11.25 | KNY | yeah, I should have checked first |
| 03:11.39 | dondelelcaro | paissad-hp: uh... read the factoid... |
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| 03:11.45 | ajavid | paissad-hp, the factoid contains additional information |
| 03:11.56 | paissad-hp | what's the factoid ? |
| 03:12.06 | ajavid | paissad-hp, what the bot messaged you with |
| 03:12.12 | paissad-hp | ok |
| 03:12.18 | ajavid | paissad-hp, check your private messages, you received one from dpkg |
| 03:12.23 | ajavid | !dpkgbot |
| 03:12.23 | dpkg | Please visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively search the factoids database for FAQ, and not flood in the channel with !tell <who> about <what>. Also ask me about <msg the bot>. We ask that you learn to search for yourself first, unless it is a specific problem. Many questions are asked repeatedly, and the factoid database can be of great help to you. Ask me about <search dpkg>. |
| 03:12.25 | paissad-hp | i see |
| 03:12.36 | ajavid | !factoid |
| 03:12.36 | dpkg | methinks factoid is something resembling a fact or unverified (often invented) information that is given credibility because it appeared in print or a brief (usually one sentence and usually trivial) news item, or often-repeated info, stored to keep people from having to repeatedly explain something This thing you're reading right now is called a "factoid". |
| 03:14.32 | ajavid | is the code for paste.debian.net freely available somewhere? I am looking for a pastebin script (pref. already packaged) |
| 03:15.00 | ajavid | I have not yet found one in deb |
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| 03:16.44 | craigevil | ajavid: isnt pastebinit basically just a script |
| 03:16.56 | ajavid | you misunderstand |
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| 03:17.06 | ajavid | I'd like to run my own personal pastebin script on my server |
| 03:17.20 | ajavid | I don't want to have to write one (wouldn't take long but eh...) |
| 03:17.49 | ajavid | like atirjavid.com/paste |
| 03:17.51 | ajavid | or something |
| 03:18.21 | ajavid | or paste.atirjavid.com (to hold/save indefinitely all my code snippets, pastes etc. )( |
| 03:18.30 | ajavid | fuck it... I'll have to write it to do what I want. |
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| 03:19.09 | ajavid | unless you can tell me of one! :) |
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| 03:19.54 | craigevil | something like basket wouldnt work for that? or one of the other journal apps? |
| 03:19.56 | Cryptic_Donkey | !songbird |
| 03:19.56 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, songbird is a desktop web player, digital jukebox and web browser. Not in Debian, see http://bugs.debian.org/412437 for the <ITP>. |
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| 03:20.03 | ajavid | craigevil, hmm |
| 03:20.09 | ajavid | journal... |
| 03:20.46 | ajavid | basket I already have installed |
| 03:20.58 | ajavid | hmmm.. nice |
| 03:21.22 | ajavid | craigevil, thank you |
| 03:21.27 | craigevil | Cryptic_Donkey: you can get the .deb to install songbird from the liquorix repo |
| 03:21.44 | ajavid | !dbugs #412437 |
| 03:21.48 | dpkg | #412437:W[wnpp] ITP: songbird -- desktop Web player, a digital jukebox and Web browser (); Mon, 26 Feb 2007 00:30:01 UTC [507218] |
| 03:21.56 | ajavid | oh nm, its an itp |
| 03:22.29 | craigevil | Cryptic_Donkey: songbird: Installed:1.1.2-2 |
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| 03:22.44 | craigevil | ITP? |
| 03:22.46 | ajavid | songbird has problem in stable on amd64 |
| 03:22.51 | ajavid | craigevil, intent to package |
| 03:22.55 | craigevil | ah |
| 03:22.56 | ajavid | its under wnpp, packages needing work |
| 03:22.58 | ajavid | !wnpp |
| 03:22.59 | dpkg | For information on packages which are not in Debian but you think should be, check the Work-Needing and Prospective Packages list at http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp Also use the script wnpp-alert (from the devscripts package) to see what packages you are using that are in need of help. |
| 03:23.26 | ajavid | as I was mentioning, songbird here has issues with sound |
| 03:23.39 | craigevil | works ok here but i run 32bit |
| 03:23.41 | ajavid | it can't work with any of the sound outputs I have, and I get absolutely no sound from it |
| 03:24.02 | ajavid | it used to work excellent in the developer preview release 2 years ago |
| 03:24.05 | ajavid | heh |
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| 03:25.42 | ajavid | oh oh ohoh oh fuck |
| 03:25.59 | ajavid | I filed an ITP on php5-gtk2 and I build some stuff its still sitting in ~/tmp |
| 03:26.06 | ajavid | oh man... I totally forgot about that |
| 03:26.30 | craigevil | hehehe get it uploaded :) |
| 03:26.31 | ajavid | alright, cool, I got stuff to do now :) |
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| 03:26.58 | ajavid | I'd have to rebuilt, new version is out |
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| 03:36.42 | Cryptic_Donkey | !songbird |
| 03:36.42 | dpkg | [songbird] a desktop web player, digital jukebox and web browser. Not in Debian, see http://bugs.debian.org/412437 for the <ITP>. |
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| 03:45.18 | ajavid | that reminds me, I have to go feed the birds... |
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| 04:01.35 | zloog | Hi, I'm stuck at a recovery prompt and have 3 HDs on my computer with 3 diffrent manufacturers is there a way i can go from /dev/sda -> HD size/make? |
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| 04:03.53 | Cope | zloog: have a look at smartctl |
| 04:05.42 | ajavid | np: (Arsonists Get All The Girls - The Game Of Life - Shoeshine For Neptune) - (Death Metal - 2:53 - 2007) |
| 04:05.47 | ajavid | oh crap |
| 04:05.50 | ajavid | sorry. |
| 04:05.56 | zloog | Cope: Thanks but it isn't installed (and no networking) :( |
| 04:06.19 | ajavid | zloog, what are you trying to do, I don't understand |
| 04:06.33 | ajavid | zloog, you are on a recovery prompt? why? what is wrong? |
| 04:06.41 | ajavid | zloog, what are you intending to do with the hdds? |
| 04:06.48 | zloog | ajavid: I... tried to install windows |
| 04:06.59 | ajavid | zloog, more details please |
| 04:07.06 | ajavid | zloog, the more we know, better we can help you |
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| 04:07.57 | zloog | ajavid: really i just need to nuke an MBR on one of these drives but i dont remeber what the device name is. Only that it is the one made by Maxtor and is 300GB. |
| 04:08.19 | ajavid | zloog, so you want to recover your mbr to get linux/grub back? |
| 04:08.20 | ajavid | !fixmbr |
| 04:08.21 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> simply boot to your Debian install disk, live CD or whatever else you have, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev), then chroot into it (chroot /target) then run "mount /proc ; update-grub && grub-install /dev/hda". Also ask me about <rescue mode> and <dual boot guide>. |
| 04:08.37 | zloog | ajavid: no i want to dd out the mbr to zero |
| 04:09.00 | ajavid | zloog, so you want to find out correct device to nuke? |
| 04:09.07 | zloog | ajavid: yea |
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| 04:09.58 | ajavid | zloog, that I do not know how to do from a recovery console apart from going to say... tty2 and try something there. Try what? I do not know. Someone else might, now that we know what you need to do |
| 04:10.25 | zloog | ajavid: well maybe recovery console was the wrong thing to say |
| 04:10.45 | ajavid | recovery console means single user mode from the grub boot/lilo boot prompt |
| 04:10.56 | zloog | ajavid: It wont boot all the way anymore and since everything was LVMed I just get dumped onto a root shell |
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| 04:11.39 | ajavid | oh boy |
| 04:11.46 | zloog | ajavid: sorry it is actually running linux not grub recovery |
| 04:12.16 | ajavid | there is no thing as runing a grub recovery |
| 04:12.35 | ajavid | so you boot it, it goes to where and stops? |
| 04:12.56 | ajavid | zloog, are you in a shell? logged in? Where are you currently? |
| 04:13.07 | ajavid | busybox? |
| 04:13.12 | zloog | ajavid: Yea its in a root shell |
| 04:13.31 | zloog | ajavid: no its umm got / but not /home or anything |
| 04:14.10 | ajavid | zloog, it dumped you at a root shell? or did you login as root? you said it wont' boot all the way, that means it probably dumped you in shell like that |
| 04:14.20 | zloog | ajavid: yup |
| 04:14.42 | ajavid | zloog, as for finding out which manufacturer's hdd is which device in udev (I don't know if udev is running at this point), I do not know how |
| 04:14.53 | ajavid | zloog, I'm kinda noob myself ;) |
| 04:14.56 | zloog | ajavid: i think if im really lucky it might just be a loose sata cable |
| 04:15.05 | zloog | udev sounds like the right track ill google it |
| 04:15.18 | ajavid | I can't help you |
| 04:15.26 | zloog | thanks] |
| 04:15.29 | ajavid | sure |
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| 04:16.10 | ajavid | zloog, how is a loose sata cable related to mbr/installing windows? |
| 04:18.22 | KNY | dondelelcaro, you still around? |
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| 04:23.00 | heffay | zloog are you using lenny? |
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| 04:25.53 | heffay | if you are, the grub it comes with wont play with lvm. youll need grub2 or lilo to boot. from your shell mkdir /mnt and look in /dev/mapper for something to mount if you want to browse your files |
| 04:29.21 | zloog | ajavid: Well it was more related to my LVM not coming up |
| 04:29.33 | ajavid | zloog, I think heffay knows more about this than I |
| 04:29.35 | ajavid | :) |
| 04:30.13 | zloog | ajavid: sorry I was finishing things. When the LVM was up and I could get into X figuring out this stuff was trivial and I am now happly finishing my install |
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| 04:30.54 | ajavid | zloog, so you're good to go? |
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| 04:31.00 | ajavid | zloog, 100% a-ok? |
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| 04:31.13 | zloog | yup |
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| 04:31.25 | zloog | sweating it for a while though |
| 04:32.34 | ajavid | :) |
| 04:32.48 | ajavid | I was earlier, but then I turned on the air |
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| 04:38.36 | ajavid | Debian Wins! Flawless Victory! |
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| 04:54.55 | lkthomas | hey guys |
| 04:55.02 | lkthomas | how could I check if a program socket is full or not ? |
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| 04:58.16 | Firefishe | Is there a way to get `updatedb' to do a search to my mounted windows partition--which it seems to be omitting--and then add it to the current locate database? |
| 04:59.43 | jmarsden | Firefishe: edit /etc/updatedb.conf so it does what you want. man 5 updatedb.conf for more info |
| 05:00.03 | ajavid | man updatedb show syou how to add more dires |
| 05:00.05 | ajavid | nm |
| 05:00.27 | Firefishe | jmarsden: Thanks, jmarsden. I'll give it a look. |
| 05:00.43 | jmarsden | Firefishe: no problem. |
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| 05:04.23 | Firefishe | jmarsden: Eliminating /media from the prunepaths line did the trick.. thanks :) |
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| 05:04.57 | jmarsden | Firefishe: Glad to help :) |
| 05:06.03 | Firefishe | jmarsden: I appreciate it. Also, I learned a new item of interest tonight, and realize how much of the basics I've neglected over the last 8 years. Time to reacquaint myself with basic files, and not do so much gui based stuff. Bad Fishe, Bad! ;) |
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| 05:06.34 | ajavid | heh |
| 05:06.48 | Firefishe | jmarsden: Do you know of a distro that does absolutely everything by simple configuration files? |
| 05:06.58 | Firefishe | this question is open to everyone, btw ;) |
| 05:07.58 | jmarsden | Firefishe: Well, it depends how you look at it. In a sense, *every* Linux/*BSD distro configures everything using config files, if you do not install X :) |
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| 05:09.23 | ajavid | actually even with X, everythign still uses config files :) |
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| 05:09.39 | Firefishe | jmarsden: Point taken. Sure would be nice if the X developers would realize this. This way, kde4 would be in ~/.kde4 and not in weird places it shouldn't be (imho on this last one). |
| 05:09.40 | ajavid | where else do you think config data is stored? (certainly not a db) |
| 05:09.53 | ajavid | Firefishe, not X developers |
| 05:10.02 | ajavid | Firefishe, debian kde packaging team |
| 05:10.14 | Firefishe | ajavid: Sorry. Your correction is salient |
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| 05:10.54 | Firefishe | ajavid: I shouldn't have lumped the gui stuff into one project...bad fishe, bad. |
| 05:11.16 | ajavid | kde4 initially (when 4.1 was introduced to stable) installed its settings in ~/.kde4 and left kde3.5 on ~/.kde |
| 05:11.31 | ajavid | since testing/sid now only contain kde4, it was sensible to put it in ~/.kde |
| 05:11.55 | ajavid | on debian stable lenny, kde 4.1 still installs into ~/.kde4 I believe (its settings) whereas kde3.5 is still in ~/.kde |
| 05:12.21 | ajavid | Firefishe, more information can be found on kde.debian.org |
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| 05:12.35 | ajavid | http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 05:12.38 | ajavid | sorry wrong url |
| 05:13.12 | ajavid | ahh, it was kde4.debian.net |
| 05:13.22 | ajavid | KDE 4.1.x backports for Debian Lenny |
| 05:13.27 | ajavid | kde4.debian.net/ |
| 05:13.46 | ajavid | is a KDE nut |
| 05:13.49 | ajavid | :) |
| 05:14.34 | ajavid | but 4.1 isn't worth using actually, its garbage. 4.3 is the best release yet, and its not in stable, will never be, no backports are planned either |
| 05:14.59 | sauvin | No KDE4 for Debian at all? |
| 05:15.08 | ajavid | sure |
| 05:15.20 | ajavid | I just told you the link to get 4.1 backports in stable, but beyond that, no |
| 05:15.28 | ajavid | yes, kde4 is in debian testing and sid |
| 05:15.29 | ajavid | !kde4 |
| 05:15.30 | dpkg | kde 4 is, like, the version of kde that you will find in Squeeze. Because kde4 is so new, you might get more assistance in #debian-kde on irc.oftc.net. Backports for lenny of older versions of kde4 are available from http://kde4.debian.net/ |
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| 05:16.00 | sauvin | I can wait. I'm using *debian* for a reason. |
| 05:16.14 | ajavid | http://www.ppcnux.com/?q=kde-4-2-3-backport-for-debian-gnu-lenny <- if you are desperate for 4.2 |
| 05:16.27 | ajavid | I don't recommend unofficial packages, not now, not ever |
| 05:16.32 | nevyn | <3's unstable+experimental on his notebook. |
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| 05:17.20 | ajavid | Notorious, I agree |
| 05:17.23 | ajavid | nevyn, ^ |
| 05:17.24 | sauvin | Frankly, if I get desperate to use KDE4, I'll install some other distro on a machine I don't care as much about. |
| 05:17.39 | nevyn | :) |
| 05:17.39 | ajavid | sauvin, debootstrap a kubuntu |
| 05:17.59 | ajavid | run it in a chroot and launch it on a diff X :1 or something |
| 05:18.06 | ajavid | run kde3 and 4 side by side if you like |
| 05:18.35 | Cryptic_Donkey | !vlc |
| 05:18.36 | dpkg | [vlc] VLC media player, a free software multimedia player developed by the VideoLAN project, packaged for Debian. For DVD support, ask me about <dvd playback>. Embedded video is buggy in 0.9.x, see http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=51124 and VLC ticket #2136; resolved in the 1.0.0 release candidates. http://www.videolan.org/support/faq.html #videolan on irc.videolan.org. |
| 05:18.44 | ajavid | !msg the bot |
| 05:18.44 | dpkg | Please message the bot... not doing so could be considered an unnecessary flood. Instead of typing "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" you can just type "/msg dpkg <topic>". See also <selftell>. Also visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively use the factoids database, or ask me about <bot help> <help> |
| 05:18.55 | craigevil | http://www.debian-desktop.org/doku.php has kde4.2 for stable, but not an official repo |
| 05:19.35 | Cryptic_Donkey | !dvd playback |
| 05:19.35 | dpkg | To play DVDs, you need some media playing software (ask me about <dvd> for some suggestions on viewers). You will also need libdvdcss2 libdvdnav4 libdvdread3 some of which are in <debian-multimedia.org> (see <libdvdcss>). You will also need to set a region on your DVD player if you have never done so before using regionset. Also ask me about <dvd playback troubleshooting>. |
| 05:19.51 | ajavid | Cryptic_Donkey, seriously. |
| 05:20.12 | craigevil | !tell Cryptic_Donkey about selftell |
| 05:20.25 | ajavid | !dpkg.web.search |
| 05:20.26 | dpkg | Pick my brains at http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php or ask me about <help listkeys>, <help-listvals> or <search>. Also, my factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ in archives that are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are archived. |
| 05:20.43 | craigevil | Cryptic_Donkey: /msg the bot not in the channel its fraking annoying |
| 05:21.14 | norc | I remember that there was a way to change a kernel without a reboot, what should I be looking for? |
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| 05:21.49 | FreakGuard | norc: ksplice |
| 05:22.40 | norc | FreakGuard: oh. now I remember. kexec was what I had in mind |
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| 05:27.36 | ajavid | hm |
| 05:28.08 | ajavid | aptitude instal kexec-tools |
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| 05:32.56 | DaveQB | How does one install the fuse module on Lenny? |
| 05:33.13 | valdyn | DaveQB: modprobe fuse |
| 05:33.20 | DaveQB | not found :( |
| 05:33.24 | valdyn | DaveQB: usually not required |
| 05:33.41 | valdyn | DaveQB: so youre using a custom kernel? |
| 05:33.42 | DaveQB | the fuse package has been installed |
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| 05:34.06 | DaveQB | Hmmm, actually good point, its on a proxmox, a KVM guest, so I guess you're right |
| 05:34.35 | DaveQB | I have apt-get source fuse and have the source files |
| 05:34.54 | DaveQB | valdyn I guess I should look at the steps to install form source rather than searching for fuse |
| 05:34.55 | valdyn | DaveQB: thats useless, you need to use a kernel that has fuse support |
| 05:34.57 | DaveQB | valdyn thanks :) |
| 05:35.11 | DaveQB | How can I check? In /proc huh |
| 05:35.26 | Cryptic_Donkey | I really don't want to uninstall debian for my ms windows class after having customized it and familierized my self with it |
| 05:35.27 | valdyn | DaveQB: "modprobe fuse" was the check |
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| 05:36.43 | ajavid | Cryptic_Donkey, you don't need to |
| 05:37.40 | Cryptic_Donkey | ajavid: unfortunate ly i going to have to because my father is " done buying me computers. |
| 05:37.51 | valdyn | !dual boot |
| 05:37.52 | dpkg | dual boot is, like, This describes a system that can boot to two different operating systems. Some OSs, such as Windows NT and OS/2, allow for dual booting when installed. Of course, you can also use other methods such as commercial programs that install a special boot partition that is capable of launching operating systems from other partitions. You can also boot to more than two operating systems on the same machine. see <dual boot guide> |
| 05:38.11 | craigevil | Cryptic_Donkey: dual boot or install windows in virtualbox |
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| 05:39.52 | Cryptic_Donkey | It look like I will have to duel boot and shrink the heck out of the fat ass partion that the thinkvantage restordisks make for christ sakes the take up the whole entire hard drive with windows. |
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| 05:40.12 | Cryptic_Donkey | craigevil: ^^ |
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| 05:41.28 | Cryptic_Donkey | not to mention the frigging restore image/partion that the lenovo system manager makes |
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| 05:45.19 | Cryptic_Donkey | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:52.28 | ajavid | virtualbox |
| 05:52.46 | ajavid | While in my bachelors program at OSU there was a class which required IE specifically |
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| 05:52.58 | ajavid | becuase the class was online, and it used an activeX control |
| 05:53.23 | ajavid | I filed a formal complaint against it, to the dean stating that MS should not be a requirement in order to do this |
| 05:53.36 | ajavid | and also, I installed windows in a virtual machine to get my homework done |
| 05:53.44 | ajavid | if you can't afford another machine, just virtualize |
| 05:54.01 | superjoe | you still have to pay for the windows softtware |
| 05:54.08 | shah16 | +1 |
| 05:54.28 | ajavid | not as a student |
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| 05:54.33 | ajavid | you can get xp pro student edition for free |
| 05:54.43 | superjoe | neat |
| 05:54.46 | ajavid | from your local university, as long your declared major is in IT or computers |
| 05:55.14 | ajavid | different shcools have differnet policies, but usually student versions are available free of charge |
| 05:55.31 | ajavid | (that is what I used, and they also gave me lots of other MS software for free, again student editions) |
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| 05:59.58 | BillyCrook_ | I'm in the debian installer, and my bios time was incorrect when I booted |
| 06:00.17 | ajavid | its ok |
| 06:00.19 | BillyCrook_ | I need to correct the time in the installer, and I have a shell right now |
| 06:00.26 | ajavid | make sure your bios battery works |
| 06:00.29 | BillyCrook_ | but there is no date binary |
| 06:00.29 | ajavid | finish your install |
| 06:00.39 | ajavid | you can set the time later |
| 06:00.48 | ajavid | !set date |
| 06:00.52 | ajavid | argh |
| 06:00.54 | BillyCrook_ | the installer refuses to install the base system |
| 06:00.54 | ajavid | !ntp |
| 06:00.54 | dpkg | The Network Time Protocol. Try "apt-get install ntp" for basic usage. Use "pool.ntp.org" as your NTP server if you don't have one of your own already. See http://www.ntp.org/ or http://www.openntpd.org/ for more information. See also <set time>. |
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| 06:01.04 | ajavid | BillyCrook_, why? |
| 06:01.04 | BillyCrook_ | I bloody well know what ntp is |
| 06:01.17 | ajavid | Then I bloody well can't help you. |
| 06:01.20 | ajavid | Good luck. |
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| 06:01.57 | BillyCrook_ | idk why the Debian devels saw fit to just leave out ntpdate or even the date command in their installer environment |
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| 06:02.24 | BillyCrook_ | I'm about to look for some stub in /proc or /sys out of desperation |
| 06:03.04 | BillyCrook_ | a couple times a year, I decide to give debian one more shot, just to reinforce what I already know about it, and give it a chance to prove its worthyness |
| 06:03.15 | ajavid | debian is not worth it |
| 06:03.18 | ajavid | its shit, and it sucks |
| 06:03.21 | ajavid | go use something else |
| 06:03.28 | BillyCrook_ | no kidding |
| 06:03.41 | ajavid | no one is forcing you to use debian. |
| 06:03.50 | BillyCrook_ | oh hell I know |
| 06:04.03 | ajavid | coming in here with a bad attitude, get the fuck outta my face man. |
| 06:04.11 | ajavid | plonked. |
| 06:04.19 | BillyCrook_ | I just wouldn't feel right so vehemently warning the world not to use it if I didn't regularly reconfirm how worthless it was |
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| 06:04.48 | BillyCrook_ | (so again that's why I'm giving it this chance today |
| 06:04.54 | craigevil | then go play with ubuntu, my debian install has been rock solid for 5 yrs and counting |
| 06:05.19 | BillyCrook_ | ew |
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| 06:06.25 | ajavid | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:06.26 | BillyCrook_ | I've already got its mac address set up to kickstart into fedora |
| 06:06.28 | ajavid | if it hadn't been for the damn power failure |
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| 06:09.10 | BillyCrook_ | 94 days on my main desktop. I'm ready to upgrade to F11, but can't seem to find time to stop what I'm doing and reboot. |
| 06:09.18 | BillyCrook_ | Lovin the ext4 on my laptop though! |
| 06:09.31 | BillyCrook_ | and for the record, I came in here with a question about the install environment |
| 06:09.49 | BillyCrook_ | surely it can't just be assumed that a human will spend time in a bios setting a clock before every install |
| 06:10.05 | BillyCrook_ | and I get called an idiot basically |
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| 06:11.04 | BillyCrook_ | whats especialy odd is that it picked up the ntp server I advertise in DHCP options, and noted it earlier on in the install |
| 06:11.07 | BillyCrook_ | but apparently didn't use it |
| 06:11.32 | BillyCrook_ | because apt thinks the signing key isn't yet valid, and refuses to continue |
| 06:13.10 | ajavid | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6726522426109060914&ei=rK6DSr3bL43-rAKY0emWBw&q=debian&hl=en |
| 06:13.13 | ajavid | Anatomy Of A Debian Package |
| 06:13.19 | ajavid | The slides for this talk are available online at http://jon.oxer.com.au/talks/id/30 |
| 06:13.31 | ajavid | Google Tech Talk, very informative video, enjoy |
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| 06:20.01 | BarbaSucia_ | hi, good night |
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| 06:21.31 | BarbaSucia_ | this chat is for?? |
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| 06:22.31 | ajavid | !#debian |
| 06:22.31 | dpkg | hmm... #debian is home sweet home! :) |
| 06:22.33 | ajavid | doh |
| 06:22.52 | ajavid | BarbaSucia_, this is a support channel for Debian GNU/Linux |
| 06:23.02 | ajavid | BarbaSucia_, /topic |
| 06:23.24 | BarbaSucia_ | i'm sorry, thank u very much ajavid |
| 06:23.43 | ajavid | don't be |
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| 06:23.46 | ajavid | you're welcome |
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| 06:24.18 | jvdm | hello, please, i'm trying to compile mplayer with alsa support, with no success... do I need any specific package for that? |
| 06:24.34 | ajavid | jvdm, mplayer in debian already is compiled with alsa support |
| 06:24.35 | jvdm | i'm running lenny. |
| 06:25.01 | ajavid | jvdm, in lenny's version of mplayer, the configuration (in gmplayer) features alsa in the audio output plugins list |
| 06:25.09 | ajavid | jvdm, there is no need to rebuild |
| 06:25.17 | ajavid | jvdm, I actually grab my mplayer from dmm |
| 06:25.21 | ajavid | !dmm lenny |
| 06:25.21 | dpkg | To add the debian-multimedia repository run (as root) # echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ lenny main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; aptitude update && aptitude install debian-multimedia-keyring && aptitude update. For an alternative way to load Marillat's archive key, ask me about <apt-key 1F41B907>. |
| 06:25.28 | jvdm | ajavid: but i'm trying to compile it, from source... |
| 06:25.33 | ajavid | jvdm, why? |
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| 06:26.06 | jvdm | well, just for fun... and i like to tweek things sometime... |
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| 06:27.22 | ajavid | jvdm, you would maybe need libasound2-dev |
| 06:27.22 | ajavid | ? |
| 06:27.26 | ajavid | I don't know |
| 06:27.32 | ajavid | jvdm, try apt-get build-dep mplayer |
| 06:27.46 | ajavid | jvdm, that should satisfy all the dependencies you would need in order to build mplayer |
| 06:27.50 | ajavid | even from source |
| 06:28.44 | jvdm | i'll look into it, thank you ajavid |
| 06:28.48 | ajavid | sure |
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| 06:42.17 | dondelelcaro | KNY: ? |
| 06:42.36 | KNY | dondelelcaro, heh, sorry man, I got it sorted out :) |
| 06:42.41 | dondelelcaro | cool |
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| 06:49.25 | Skipp_OSX | Debian! |
| 06:51.28 | pl4yer0ne | Random! |
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| 06:52.51 | mythomaniac | Satan! |
| 06:53.03 | ajavid | boredom? |
| 06:53.12 | mythomaniac | perhaps |
| 06:54.03 | mythomaniac | why doesn't debian play well with vbox :/ |
| 06:55.53 | Skipp_OSX | mythomaniac: as in Sun's Virtual Box? |
| 06:56.07 | mythomaniac | Skipp_OSX, correct |
| 06:56.33 | ajavid | works fine |
| 06:56.48 | ajavid | ask a more specific question related to your specific vbox problem on debian please. |
| 06:56.51 | Skipp_OSX | I agree with ajavid, it works for me |
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| 06:57.01 | cydork | mythomaniac: are you using virtualbox-ose? |
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| 06:58.18 | BillyCrook_ | I'd like to change the time on a system, and I don't think it's reasonable to reboot, and enter the BIOS to do so. |
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| 06:58.36 | mythomaniac | not for me, d/l lenny biz installer and got through the install and cannot log in as root or user - use the biz install rescue mode, drop to shell and then chroot in and reset root passwd, set up the user - log on as user and no /home/<usr> for the user .... |
| 06:58.39 | steven43126 | BillyCrook_: date |
| 06:58.43 | BillyCrook_ | I'm sitting at a busybox shell at the point during a debian install where it would normally begin 'Installing the base system' but it is refusing to do so because the signing key is "not yet valid" |
| 06:59.05 | BillyCrook_ | steven43126: there is no date binary in this environment |
| 06:59.36 | _AnywhereIs_ | hey guys what would you suggest me to use as VNCÂ server to be able to control my desktop from windows computer? debian lenny, xfce4. |
| 07:00.15 | mythomaniac | BillyCrook_, keep choosing base install - at some point it will work |
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| 07:00.23 | steven43126 | BillyCrook_: hmm good question |
| 07:00.25 | BillyCrook_ | lol |
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| 07:00.53 | mythomaniac | BillyCrook_, happens too me a few times |
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| 07:01.12 | ajavid | vnc4server imo |
| 07:01.21 | ajavid | _AnywhereIs_, vnc4server |
| 07:01.27 | BillyCrook_ | i dont think I'm just going to keep trying until three years from now when the clock advances normally to a time when the key is valid |
| 07:01.41 | ajavid | _AnywhereIs_, tightvncserver maybe |
| 07:01.51 | _AnywhereIs_ | ajavid: does it have windowed config tool? i mean GUI |
| 07:02.02 | ajavid | I don't know |
| 07:02.17 | ajavid | you start the server via command line and thats how you specify its options |
| 07:02.26 | ajavid | its trivial, install it and read the manpage |
| 07:02.31 | _AnywhereIs_ | i have to move out now still no remote control soft. k ill try now |
| 07:02.50 | ajavid | _AnywhereIs_, at minimum, vncserver -geometry 800x600 -depth 24 :1 |
| 07:02.53 | ajavid | something of that nature |
| 07:03.13 | ajavid | you can specify other optinos there as well, like diff depth, etc, read the manpage |
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| 07:04.41 | ajavid | _AnywhereIs_, http://www.joreybump.com/code/howto/debian/vnc.html |
| 07:04.44 | _AnywhereIs_ | i remember there was a default server |
| 07:04.56 | ajavid | this is better |
| 07:05.02 | ajavid | _AnywhereIs_, http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Remotely_administering_machines_graphically_with_VNC |
| 07:05.19 | _AnywhereIs_ | will vnc4server create a new session or will allow current one? |
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| 07:05.52 | ajavid | read the link please |
| 07:05.57 | ONE_PATE | anzone knows how to configure iphone 3g, that it connects automatikalz to a wifi |
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| 07:06.30 | _AnywhereIs_ | yeh i think i should just run it as root not as logged in user |
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| 07:06.57 | ajavid | _AnywhereIs_, for current X11 session you need to use x11vnc etc. |
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| 07:07.02 | ajavid | read the link I gave, it explains all that |
| 07:07.39 | ajavid | ONE_PATE, afaik no debian currently runs on an iphone 3g, so why are you asking this here? |
| 07:08.10 | steven43126 | BillyCrook_: drop back to the debian intall menu ? |
| 07:08.23 | steven43126 | BillyCrook_: is there no option for setting time and timezone ? |
| 07:08.27 | BillyCrook_ | I redid all the previous steps of the install |
| 07:08.30 | BillyCrook_ | and chose another mirror |
| 07:08.33 | BillyCrook_ | and now its working |
| 07:08.57 | BillyCrook_ | I advertise NTP via dhcp option on my networks |
| 07:09.21 | BillyCrook_ | and it showed be the ntp server i use at one point |
| 07:09.32 | steven43126 | BillyCrook_: if it keeps happening i would check the d-i docs im sure there must be some option that can be passed |
| 07:09.46 | Skipp_OSX | ONE_PATE: you want it to connect automatically to wifi, or you don't? |
| 07:09.59 | ONE_PATE | right! |
| 07:10.03 | BillyCrook_ | ajavid: nice tech talk |
| 07:10.34 | Skipp_OSX | ONE_PATE: You can set it in setting either way |
| 07:10.39 | ONE_PATE | to Skipp_OSX to a certain, because there are 30 wlan |
| 07:10.57 | ONE_PATE | how ? |
| 07:10.59 | ajavid | maybe I am uninformed yet, but what has this got to do with debian support? |
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| 07:11.05 | ajavid | ONE_PATE, Skipp_OSX |
| 07:11.26 | ONE_PATE | -.- |
| 07:11.32 | ONE_PATE | where ist the problem |
| 07:11.33 | steven43126 | i can install debian on my G1, but im not sure about the phone ;) |
| 07:11.52 | Skipp_OSX | ONE_PATE: Settings => Wi-Fi => Ask to Join Networks => On or Off |
| 07:11.53 | steven43126 | s/phone/ i phone/ |
| 07:12.00 | ajavid | please keep it on topic |
| 07:12.33 | EagleScreen | is UXA enabled by default in xserver-xorg-video-intel in Sid? |
| 07:12.55 | craigevil | EagleScreen: yes |
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| 07:13.15 | ajavid | only knows radeon |
| 07:13.23 | EagleScreen | UXA cause kdm to cras at logout |
| 07:13.25 | ajavid | I've never owned onboard intel chip |
| 07:13.40 | ajavid | EagleScreen, switch your render accel method to EXA then? |
| 07:13.46 | ajavid | maybe |
| 07:13.54 | ajavid | or turn off UXA |
| 07:13.55 | EagleScreen | how? switch to EXA? |
| 07:14.11 | cahoot | isn't exa obsoleted? |
| 07:14.12 | ajavid | xorg.conf, in your device section,option renderaccel |
| 07:14.15 | craigevil | change the accelmethod in xorg.cong to exa |
| 07:14.16 | EagleScreen | is there xorg.conf file on current Debian Sid? |
| 07:14.31 | ajavid | there is always an xorg.conf |
| 07:14.53 | EagleScreen | lastest xorg in Ubuntu haven't xorg.conf |
| 07:15.04 | ajavid | this is not ubuntu |
| 07:15.09 | EagleScreen | yes, i know |
| 07:15.22 | EagleScreen | but will come that change in Debian? |
| 07:15.32 | ajavid | EagleScreen, 7.4 still contains with xorg.conf |
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| 07:15.48 | ajavid | EagleScreen, I believe 7.5+ maybe do all automatically... I think |
| 07:15.53 | ajavid | 7.6 |
| 07:16.10 | craigevil | EagleScreen: just add Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" under the Device section |
| 07:16.10 | ajavid | however, sid contains 7.4, and you have xorg.conf, if you don't have it, create it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 07:16.36 | ajavid | craigevil, thanks for the correction, I mistakenly thought it was RenderAccel |
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| 07:16.52 | simonrvn | sid's autoconfs already |
| 07:16.53 | craigevil | http://paste.debian.net/44035/ thats all thats in my xorg.conf but i use lxde with slim |
| 07:17.15 | EagleScreen | it is impossible to me memorize a xorg.conf to create manually |
| 07:17.22 | _AnywhereIs_ | thanks ajavid :) gotta run |
| 07:17.53 | EagleScreen | is it possible to use KMS in current Debian Sid? |
| 07:18.03 | g00se | craigevil: Did you ever have an issue with your desktop window disappearing with slim? |
| 07:18.25 | ajavid | simonrvn, hi |
| 07:18.29 | craigevil | g00se: nope, everything works just fine |
| 07:18.35 | ajavid | simonrvn, really ltns, how are you? |
| 07:18.44 | simonrvn | Section "Device"\n Option "AcccelMethod" "EXA"\nEndSection - now how hard is that? ;) |
| 07:18.55 | simonrvn | hello. i'm ok. you? |
| 07:18.56 | g00se | craigevil: I had one with xfce, but that might not have been slim's fault |
| 07:19.02 | ajavid | simonrvn, fantastic, thanks |
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| 07:19.27 | cahoot | FWIW EXA seems to be removed in the sid verion of video-intel |
| 07:19.37 | ajavid | cahoot, I see |
| 07:19.47 | ajavid | cahoot, =D (/me never owned intel) |
| 07:20.07 | g00se | I'm finding it difficult to get security.debian.org. Is it just me? |
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| 07:20.26 | AlexC_ | morning, |
| 07:20.28 | craigevil | g00se: there are some posts on forums.debian.org about it |
| 07:20.41 | EagleScreen | i think to remove xorg.conf is a very bad idea |
| 07:20.50 | kraut | moin |
| 07:20.51 | craigevil | security.debian.org that is, so its not just you |
| 07:21.13 | AlexC_ | I have around 7 Debian 5 servers that I manage, and it is a pain every morning manually doing updates - would you say it is wise or not to setup a cronjob to do the updates automatically say every day? |
| 07:21.21 | g00se | craigevil: Thanks |
| 07:21.38 | ajavid | AlexC_, on stable boxes, sure |
| 07:21.46 | ajavid | AlexC_, on testing/unstable, not a good idea |
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| 07:21.54 | ajavid | AlexC_, unstable, definitely not a good idea |
| 07:21.57 | AlexC_ | ajavid, good, they all run stable so =) |
| 07:22.03 | ajavid | AlexC_, go for it |
| 07:22.06 | AlexC_ | I'll make sure to log the output as well |
| 07:22.13 | ajavid | AlexC_, also, make the cron job once a week |
| 07:22.21 | g00se | What if input is required for the updates? |
| 07:22.24 | ajavid | AlexC_, stable isn't updated all the time (or even everyday) |
| 07:22.39 | AlexC_ | ajavid, ok, weekly then |
| 07:22.40 | ajavid | once a month maybe |
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| 07:22.52 | AlexC_ | g00se, such as? |
| 07:23.37 | ajavid | sigh |
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| 07:24.01 | g00se | Any conf stuff |
| 07:24.36 | ajavid | there has to be an 'assume-yes' type option |
| 07:24.42 | ajavid | you can specify through the command line |
| 07:24.43 | AlexC_ | there is |
| 07:24.44 | ajavid | as an argument |
| 07:25.12 | g00se | There is, but i'm not sure if is *always* as simple as yes/no |
| 07:25.17 | EagleScreen | i have a laptop, how good works suspend and resume in Debian testing? |
| 07:25.26 | craigevil | AlexC_: you might take a look at unattended-upgrades |
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| 07:25.29 | AlexC_ | EagleScreen, well that's going to depend on the laptop |
| 07:25.41 | EagleScreen | it is Acer Aspire 2920Z |
| 07:25.43 | AlexC_ | craigevil, thansk |
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| 07:26.24 | g00se | There's also something that propagates the same commands over n ssh sessions, but i forget what it is |
| 07:26.28 | jawi | the man page for apt-get option -y reads: If an undesirable situation, such as changing a |
| 07:26.31 | jawi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:27.32 | g00se | jawi: Yes, so then you don't know what's happened unless you start investigating |
| 07:27.57 | AlexC_ | g00se, tis why I'll log the output |
| 07:28.00 | jawi | well, even after automatic updates you should at least read the log output |
| 07:28.31 | EagleScreen | i need a currently debian-installer (for testing) which supports ext4 |
| 07:28.40 | ajavid | EagleScreen, hmm |
| 07:28.48 | ajavid | what kernel does the daily image have? |
| 07:28.49 | craigevil | !tell EagleScreen about kmuto |
| 07:28.54 | g00se | Yes. I think some sysadmins prefer the method i mentioned though |
| 07:28.57 | ajavid | craigevil, he asked for testing |
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| 07:29.20 | ajavid | judd versions linux-image-2.6 |
| 07:29.20 | judd | ajavid: linux-image-2.6 -- |
| 07:29.21 | craigevil | testing wont work dont you need 2.6.30 for ext4? |
| 07:29.23 | ajavid | doh |
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| 07:29.29 | ajavid | you need .28 or higher |
| 07:30.26 | ajavid | when I install stable, (since my /home is ext4) I install it, login as root, enable backports, install .30 bpo, reboot with .30, mount /home and login as user, startz |
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| 07:30.29 | ajavid | startx |
| 07:30.45 | craigevil | testing only has 2.6.26+17+lenny1 |
| 07:30.49 | ajavid | you can do the same on testing (if it does not contain a higher kernel than .28) |
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| 07:31.00 | EagleScreen | i know there is a Debian isntaller with 2.6.29 it upper, i used it some weeks ago for a computer |
| 07:31.00 | ajavid | ok, then do this or grab kmuto's installer |
| 07:31.06 | ajavid | !kmuto |
| 07:31.06 | dpkg | For Debian Lenny (or Etch) installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ . The included <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files (in 0627 images) are required to be moved prior to network hardware detection, see comments of http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2630-lenny.htm |
| 07:31.09 | ajavid | EagleScreen, use this |
| 07:31.15 | ajavid | backported di images |
| 07:32.32 | EagleScreen | this? |
| 07:32.32 | EagleScreen | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/current/ |
| 07:32.37 | ajavid | no |
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| 07:32.55 | ajavid | http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 07:32.57 | ajavid | stick to stable. |
| 07:33.22 | flourish | howto see the configure option of a package when install it with apt-get |
| 07:34.29 | ajavid | flourish, apt-get source pkgname; cd pkgname/debian/rules |
| 07:34.57 | ajavid | flourish, its in the rules files of the source package (unless the maint put it in /usr/share/doc/pkgname) |
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| 07:35.24 | flourish | ajavid: thanks |
| 07:36.00 | ajavid | yup |
| 07:38.35 | flourish | btw, the channel of cyrus is ? |
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| 07:39.00 | flourish | #cyrus ? but almost no people there |
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| 07:41.41 | neo8848 | hey guys i have a wmp300n lan card, and i have the lenny distro dvd disks, what do i need to set up my wifi? |
| 07:43.23 | ajavid | wmp hm.. is that a linksys? |
| 07:43.29 | ajavid | find out which wifi chipset you have |
| 07:43.32 | ajavid | lspci |
| 07:43.45 | ajavid | more than likely a broadcom chip |
| 07:44.06 | ajavid | neo8848, lspci | grep Net |
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| 07:51.33 | g00se | If i've just changed resolv.conf, how do i refresh any cache that's operational? |
| 07:52.21 | craigevil | g00se: any changes to resolv.conf are instant you shouldnt have to mess with any else |
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| 07:52.48 | g00se | craigevil: Thanks |
| 07:53.04 | ajavid | craigevil, afaik it takes effect as soon as you change your nameservers |
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| 07:53.12 | craigevil | yes thats whay i meant :) |
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| 07:53.14 | ajavid | craigevil, there is no cache so to speak |
| 07:53.18 | craigevil | what* |
| 07:53.27 | ajavid | I meant g00se |
| 07:53.31 | ajavid | fucking tab |
| 07:53.45 | neo8848 | ajavid : here's what I have : Network controller : Broadcom Corporation BCM43XG (rev 01) |
| 07:53.46 | norc | language. |
| 07:54.03 | ajavid | norc, fuck fuckity fuck. Get over it. |
| 07:54.14 | ajavid | yup, it was a broadcom, Iknew it |
| 07:54.22 | ajavid | neo8848, /msg dpkg b43 |
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| 07:54.52 | EagleScreen | your broadcom may works with wl driver kernel module |
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| 07:59.50 | neo8848 | ajavid, i used synaptic for b43 and got an error |
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| 08:00.42 | EagleScreen | neo8848: is it a wireless cars? |
| 08:00.56 | ajavid | !ask |
| 08:00.56 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 08:01.03 | neo8848 | subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 |
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| 08:01.06 | neo8848 | yes it is wireless |
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| 08:01.19 | ajavid | hm |
| 08:01.28 | ajavid | that doesn't tell us anything |
| 08:01.32 | ajavid | don't use synaptic |
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| 08:01.47 | themill | there are earlier errors than that. |
| 08:01.48 | ajavid | aptitude install b43-fwcutter or whatever the package name is |
| 08:01.57 | ajavid | also, paste the entire error log |
| 08:02.04 | EagleScreen | b43-fwcutter, yes |
| 08:02.40 | EagleScreen | neo8848: if b43 does not work, try later with broadcom-sta and building it with module-assitant |
| 08:03.06 | ionte | hi. i'm getting gray hairs over this: i have a script that runs daily with cron. it's scheduled to run at 3:25, but it starts at 4:25. i guess that's because of my timezone. What I DON'T understand is why it is run AGAIN at 7:25 (3 hours later ....) ?!! |
| 08:03.06 | ajavid | dislikes wifi |
| 08:03.29 | ajavid | ionte, what is your cron job, show us |
| 08:03.46 | ajavid | and on that note, I think it is also my bedtime |
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| 08:03.51 | ionte | ajavid: well, it's a quite long script that checks for virus and does backups |
| 08:03.59 | ajavid | no, your cron job |
| 08:04.01 | ajavid | not your script |
| 08:04.18 | ajavid | want to see your timings |
| 08:04.26 | ajavid | cron should NOT misbehave |
| 08:05.01 | ajavid | yup, its my bedtime, I've started hitting enter like a motherfucker |
| 08:05.04 | ionte | ajavid: oh. i've put the script in /etc/cron.daily, and I havn't touched /etc/crontab |
| 08:05.10 | ajavid | good night |
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| 08:07.56 | neo8848 | is looking for broadcom-sta |
| 08:08.04 | ionte | oh. i think i've found my problem. there is a /etc/crontab, and that is not the same as the file I get running "crontab -e" as root |
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| 08:08.55 | neo8848 | EagleScreen: is broadcom-sta part of the stable package list? |
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| 08:11.53 | ananthgs | Hi All. |
| 08:12.08 | ananthgs | Are all the debian repositories for sid dead? |
| 08:12.19 | ananthgs | I am getting 404 error for each one of them |
| 08:12.39 | ananthgs | I tried us.debian.org |
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| 08:12.48 | Trolly | lalalalalala |
| 08:12.54 | Trolly | Na, ihr Debians? |
| 08:13.03 | Trolly | Alles fit in Lampukistan? |
| 08:13.05 | DimmuR | anyone can advise some tsocks proxy client other than tsocks? |
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| 08:13.17 | Trolly | wat is los? |
| 08:13.18 | ananthgs | even ftp.debian.org too has the same problem |
| 08:13.27 | Trolly | Proxy Socken? Hab ich! |
| 08:13.39 | Trolly | Socken! Heute nur 1⬠! |
| 08:13.51 | Trolly | Will niemand? |
| 08:14.04 | Trolly | Okay, dann eben nur 50 ct! |
| 08:14.10 | Trolly | Alles muss raus! |
| 08:14.19 | Trolly | Heute im Sonderangebot! |
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| 08:15.16 | Trolly | SOOCKEN! Nur 25 ct! |
| 08:15.17 | Trolly | rot, gelb, lila punktiert... alles ist dabei! |
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| 08:15.17 | Trolly | Lecker Socken! Nur 10 ct! |
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| 08:15.32 | themill | Trolly: wrong channel |
| 08:15.40 | Trolly | Gar nicht! |
| 08:15.49 | fireba11 | themill: is there such a thing as a right channel for morons? |
| 08:15.50 | CraiZE | jawohl! |
| 08:15.53 | Trolly | Der hat doch was von Socken gesagt! |
| 08:16.03 | CraiZE | fireba11, he found it? |
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| 08:16.09 | Trolly | SOCKEN! 5ct! Zugreifen, Leute! |
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| 08:16.20 | themill | !ops Trolly would like to take German lessons elsewhere |
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| 08:16.27 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: themill complains about: Trolly would like to take German lessons elsewhere |
| 08:16.45 | Trolly | Hä? |
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| 08:16.52 | CraiZE | trolly, geh weg |
| 08:16.56 | CraiZE | kein deutsch hier |
| 08:16.58 | Trolly | Ich will euch hier nur schöne Socken verkaufen! |
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| 08:17.09 | CraiZE | ja, witz iss nu alt, geh weg :) |
| 08:17.42 | Trolly | Hier ein Bild einiger Socken: http://batikart.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/batik_socken_500x366.jpg |
| 08:18.02 | CraiZE | he thinks he is being funny as well :S |
| 08:18.05 | Trolly | Sind die nicht hübsch? |
| 08:18.17 | Trolly | Nur einen Cent! ZUGREIFEN! |
| 08:18.31 | Trolly | Socken, Socken, lecker Socken! |
| 08:18.57 | Trolly | Will den niemand Socken für diesen Superpreis haben? |
| 08:19.22 | ananthgs | Trolly this is a wrong channel. Please use #debian.de if u want to convey in german. |
| 08:19.26 | morpheus | english dude english |
| 08:19.42 | Trolly | 3 Paar für nur einen Cent, und eine Extra Socken-Waschmaschine kostenlos dazu! |
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| 08:20.03 | CraiZE | there u go |
| 08:20.11 | ananthgs | Finally he left the room |
| 08:20.12 | CraiZE | i wonder why he would do that |
| 08:20.18 | CraiZE | its not even funny |
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| 08:22.05 | EagleScreen | debian netinst-amd64 cd does not boot |
| 08:22.37 | fireba11 | EagleScreen: be more specific |
| 08:22.39 | EagleScreen | it stops in sdb attached, but i think there isn't any sdb disk in this computer |
| 08:23.22 | EagleScreen | md5sum is checked and ok |
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| 08:23.49 | EagleScreen | I used this image http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 08:25.52 | fishsponge | hey people - i have created a "spamcheck" user - does anyone know how to get the spamd processes to run as that user instead of root? |
| 08:26.43 | ananthgs | can someone give me a address for a sid branch ? |
| 08:26.59 | fishsponge | well actually, more to the point, i know how that's done, but although spamd runs as "spamcheck" on my debian machine, the -u option doesn't seem to be applied anywhere! any ideas?? |
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| 08:27.14 | ananthgs | i am having problems downloading files from the sid branch using synaptic. |
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| 08:29.10 | EagleScreen | ananthgs: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free |
| 08:29.36 | themill | except of course that testing != sid and /msg dpkg ftp.debian.org |
| 08:29.46 | EagleScreen | ananthgs: you must change testing by stable or sid |
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| 08:32.03 | ananthgs | Hi EagleScreen. Thanks a lot. |
| 08:32.11 | ananthgs | But this the error I am getting |
| 08:32.12 | ananthgs | ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/Release.gpg: Could not resolve 'ftp.debian.org' |
| 08:32.27 | ananthgs | I have given my proxy values |
| 08:32.40 | ananthgs | do i need to give the same in apt.conf? |
| 08:32.49 | ananthgs | i have set in synaptic |
| 08:33.00 | EagleScreen | ananthgs: pastebin for us your /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 08:36.16 | ananthgs | http://pastebin.com/f725600d3 |
| 08:36.19 | ananthgs | here u go |
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| 08:37.16 | enmerkar | ananthgs: er, pastebin output from dig ftp.debian.org |
| 08:37.54 | Seb | dpkg: doesn't work ? |
| 08:37.54 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
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| 08:38.31 | ewook | haha |
| 08:38.58 | ananthgs | enmerkar: sorry what are u asking me to do? |
| 08:39.02 | ananthgs | i dont understand u |
| 08:39.20 | themill | wonders why ananthgs is trying to run sid |
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| 08:39.27 | enmerkar | yeah |
| 08:39.39 | enmerkar | ananthgs: try man dig or apropos dig |
| 08:39.39 | ananthgs | themill: i want to run kde 4.3 |
| 08:39.47 | ananthgs | thats the reason |
| 08:40.06 | themill | dpkg: tell ananthgs about sid |
| 08:40.26 | ananthgs | themill: yes i know about sid |
| 08:40.29 | ananthgs | thanks themill |
| 08:40.36 | enmerkar | though the host won't magically resolve if he changes his source to stable |
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| 08:41.27 | themill | ananthgs: do you know what you are getting yourself in to in trying to run sid? sid is not for people who can't help themselves. |
| 08:42.30 | ananthgs | themill: I have been using Debian for the past 3 years or so. I can manage myself most of the things. |
| 08:42.49 | ananthgs | the worst times i m stuck...then i would seek some help |
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| 08:46.21 | craigevil | ananthgs: you have to tell apt-get to use your proxy |
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| 08:51.11 | maxagaz | how to remove a address from the arp table ? |
| 08:52.01 | koollman | maxagaz: arp -d address |
| 08:52.36 | maxagaz | koollman, it doesn't work |
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| 09:00.25 | kchr | maxagaz, try it as root with the ip address as only argument. |
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| 09:02.37 | Cope | I'm trying to run grub-update inside a chroot of a debootstrap system; this is part of a Xen guest install on a CentOS host |
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| 09:03.00 | Cope | grub-probe complains that it can't find a drive fr /dev/loop2 |
| 09:03.03 | JNSamuel | centos-- |
| 09:03.13 | Cope | I've tried bindn mounting dev |
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| 09:03.20 | Cope | but still get the same error |
| 09:03.22 | Cope | any ideas? |
| 09:03.51 | Cope | JNSamuel: At least it's getting a debian domU on it! |
| 09:03.57 | FuzzyBrain | Hi, I am on Lenny & use KDE. I think there's a bug in KDE's control center. I block adservers from /etc/hosts & everytime I use Control center to change IP/DNS & hit apply, the /etc/hosts file gets corrupted |
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| 09:04.45 | FuzzyBrain | Is this a bug or am I doing something incorrect? |
| 09:04.53 | themill | FuzzyBrain: where is this IP and DNS control in KControlCentre? |
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| 09:05.36 | m0rph3uss | !staff |
| 09:05.40 | FuzzyBrain | Kmenu > control center > Internet & Network > network settings |
| 09:06.18 | themill | FuzzyBrain: hmm... I have no such kcontrol plugin as "network settings" in lenny. |
| 09:08.21 | FuzzyBrain | strange, I have the KDE control module under 'Internet & Network. But it does reformat /etc/hosts & it's unnecessary |
| 09:08.26 | ethanol | good mornin' all |
| 09:09.30 | spaceodyssey | moin. |
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| 09:15.46 | outlaw84 | is there a way to run strace on an ssh-session? |
| 09:17.27 | kchr | outlaw84, yeah... strace -o /tmp/file.log should do it? |
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| 09:17.54 | luyi | è¿é讲ä¸æåï¼ |
| 09:17.59 | RichiH | http://paste.debian.net/44039/ -- i am getting a lot of those after upgrading to lenny. i am not sure if this is directly related, but the timing is suspicious. ideas? |
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| 09:18.10 | themill | luyi: #ubuntu, not #debian. |
| 09:18.17 | luyi | å¦ã |
| 09:18.20 | luyi | YAP |
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| 09:18.38 | RichiH | !cn |
| 09:18.38 | dpkg | methinks cn is China, or for help in chinese please join irc.oftc.net #debian-zh, Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读 |
| 09:18.43 | outlaw84 | kchr: thanks |
| 09:18.57 | skynix_ | hi |
| 09:19.21 | skynix_ | how can i install with apt-get all liberys from debian lenny in me system ? |
| 09:19.50 | skynix_ | .. apt-get install lib* ??? |
| 09:19.57 | skynix_ | for example |
| 09:20.01 | kchr | skynix_, _all_ libraries? why would one want to clutter up your system that much :-) |
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| 09:20.13 | kchr | skynix_, although apt-get install lib* should work, i guess. |
| 09:20.44 | skynix_ | kchr: ok thanks, i needit all at future . |
| 09:20.46 | kchr | but that will install any non-lib package beginning with "lib" aswell. |
| 09:21.11 | Evet | CentOS or Debian? For shared hosting provider server? |
| 09:21.20 | skynix_ | kchr: and that is an problem...yes ?! |
| 09:21.34 | themill | !wayttd skynix_ |
| 09:21.34 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, skynix_? |
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| 09:22.02 | kchr | skynix_, yes - if you only want to install lib packages i guess installing non-lib packages would pose a problem. |
| 09:22.40 | skynix_ | kchr: ok, then i dont do that. ok thank you |
| 09:22.54 | superlinux | help! i want an alternative to mumble. i want to be able to do voice chat rooms. similar to IRC |
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| 09:23.21 | FuzzyBrain | 'apt-get install lib*'? |
| 09:23.47 | superlinux | i just in need of clients only |
| 09:24.06 | spaceodyssey | no, dont' do an % apt-get install lib*... |
| 09:24.06 | superlinux | is there a voip tool for that? |
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| 09:24.43 | skynix_ | ok, when i need liberys, i do apt-get -f install . |
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| 09:26.29 | Mac101 | hi i just setup my xp laptop to ics (internet connection share) the wireless through the lan tested and worked with another xp laptop, now i would like to plug the laptop into my debain box and do a clean install but was wondering if will get connectivity just from the xp ics? |
| 09:26.34 | kchr | skynix_, when you need a library as a dependency on another package, it will get installed automatically. why do you want to get _all_ libraries (even though you might not use 99% of them)? |
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| 09:27.12 | Mac101 | as in will debian be able to tell xp is offering net over the lan? |
| 09:27.28 | skynix_ | kchr: it was an crasy idea from me... all liberys installed in my system |
| 09:27.37 | Mac101 | (sorry for the non tech explaination) :o |
| 09:27.44 | skynix_ | bud i dont do it |
| 09:28.07 | skynix_ | you tell me the problem end coming errors. thx |
| 09:28.21 | skynix_ | ( sorry for me bad english ) |
| 09:28.46 | spaceodyssey | oh, kchr, fight club! *s*. nice. |
| 09:29.38 | skynix_ | bye |
| 09:29.41 | spaceodyssey | bye. |
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| 09:31.32 | ethanol | Mac101: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-networking-3/windows-xp-ics-and-linux-client-32371/ just the first google result I found |
| 09:31.42 | kchr | spaceodyssey, it is a great novel/movie indeed :-) |
| 09:31.55 | spaceodyssey | indeed, kchr. |
| 09:32.18 | spaceodyssey | kchr: i noticed the quote from ircname. +1. |
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| 09:34.17 | Mac101 | ethanol thx but i read that before it doesnt seem to offer a solution :( |
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| 09:34.44 | ethanol | Mac101: clearly it seems ics + windows works, to some extend at least |
| 09:34.56 | ethanol | Mac101: so to answer the question you asked, 'yes'. |
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| 09:35.13 | Mac101 | yeah i have it working xp ics to other xp machines |
| 09:35.14 | kchr | spaceodyssey, yeah... figured that out. but it was a bit creepy (and random) at first ;-) |
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| 09:35.19 | cahoot | Mac101: bypassing win just for the installation isn't an option? |
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| 09:35.57 | Mac101 | i can install debian ok but i run into the same prob afterwards? |
| 09:36.46 | spaceodyssey | kchr: random!? a _fight_club_ fan shouldn't be concerned, hehe. |
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| 09:41.00 | JJOliver | Hey I'm looking at a printer problem with using the latest lenny install, can't seem to get my HP Laserjet 1005 working? Is there a full list of drivers that cups uses? |
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| 09:42.16 | alkyC | I can't seem to find any updated software, I'm stuck with Eclipse 3.2.2 when the latest edition is 3.5... :/ what would be the problem? |
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| 09:43.16 | spaceodyssey | alkyC: no. it's all right. |
| 09:43.41 | kchr | spaceodyssey, of course not! i had my head in the clouds over other stuff here at work, excuse me for not greeting you with the secret 'club nod' ;-) |
| 09:43.45 | alkyC | How is it possibly all right? I can't update software |
| 09:43.54 | sphenxes | I would like to copy files (film, vob format) to my Debian hard drive. i get the following error message: Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume. how can i solve such a problem |
| 09:44.13 | davidef1986 | alkyC: just download eclipse 3.5 from the official site and extract it if you want that version. |
| 09:44.13 | petemc | alkyC: which version of debian are you using? |
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| 09:44.36 | alkyC | How would I check my version of debian? Yes I'm a noob when it comes to linux |
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| 09:45.10 | petemc | alkyC: you can look in /etc/apt/sources.list , be aware that stable doesnt get new software, only security updates |
| 09:45.10 | kchr | alkyC, cat /etc/debian_release |
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| 09:45.29 | petemc | alkyC: you can add backports for newer versions of software |
| 09:45.32 | alkyC | petemc, thats the problem. Should I not use stable then? |
| 09:45.35 | kchr | alkyC, sorry, /etc/debian_version |
| 09:46.04 | alkyC | Using version 5.0.2 |
| 09:46.11 | petemc | alkyC: well, considering you've stated you dont know much about linux, probably not - newer software is inevitably buggy |
| 09:46.44 | petemc | alkyC: a stable system with the few packages you really need newer versions of is probably best |
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| 09:47.02 | petemc | newer softare from backports, i should say |
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| 09:47.43 | spaceodyssey | kchr: oh, no problem, no problem. it's cloudy in here, too. *s*. |
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| 09:48.47 | alkyC | Thanks all for the info |
| 09:48.59 | alkyC | Am currently downloading the tar.gz from the site |
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| 09:49.18 | alkyC | Wouldn't be surprised if I blow up my laptop. Chances are I won't know how to install so I think I'll stay here for that bit too |
| 09:49.36 | alkyC | Would I have to uninstall the original one I have (3.2.2), then install the downloaded one? |
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| 09:49.54 | petemc | alkyC: generally, the support in here is for debian packages, once you start grabbing stuff from source and compiling you're on your own |
| 09:50.05 | alkyC | Ahh, fun stuff |
| 09:50.20 | spaceodyssey | hehe, true. |
| 09:50.24 | petemc | it also means you lose all the advantages a packaging system provides |
| 09:50.39 | alkyC | I'm guessing I'll need to do a ./configure & make |
| 09:51.00 | spaceodyssey | you'd better use existing packages |
| 09:51.01 | spaceodyssey | . |
| 09:51.26 | spaceodyssey | alkyC: yes. % ./configure && make && make install. |
| 09:51.37 | alkyC | whats with the % sign? |
| 09:51.56 | spaceodyssey | alkyC: just to show there's a shell line. |
| 09:52.06 | alkyC | Ahh |
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| 09:52.49 | spaceodyssey | i mean, shell prompt, which, if you're most probably using bash - like in a modern *unix -, it's a '$'. |
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| 09:54.20 | Nurbs | alkyC: Eclipse (mostly) only needs to be extracted, though. And a JRE or better JDK installed. But there should be lots of information around if you just search for "eclipse linux install" or similar. |
| 09:54.49 | spaceodyssey | yeah... |
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| 09:55.49 | alkyC | Thanks. Would I need to just extract it to my /home or something? |
| 09:55.56 | alkyC | In a folder called eclipse maybe |
| 09:56.00 | alkyC | idk the formalities :p |
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| 09:57.32 | davidef1986 | alkyC: yes just download it and extract it (maybe create a link to the startup script on desktop/menu/panel) |
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| 09:58.22 | Nurbs | Developing software is more complicated than installing Eclipse on your own, though *g* |
| 09:58.24 | cypr1nus | hello, are there any news about kde4.4 in testing? |
| 09:58.29 | cypr1nus | kde4.3 :) |
| 09:58.52 | alkyC | Nurbs, I'm not new to software development, just linux |
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| 10:01.18 | jawi | cypr1nus: as far as i know it's just been added to sid |
| 10:02.03 | cypr1nus | jawi: so it should be there 10 days, if fatal no errors then it goes to testing |
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| 10:04.07 | jawi | i wouldn't count on the 10 days schedule. i'm pretty sure that there are more than enough issues to prevent kde4.3 to hit testing within the 10 days |
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| 10:04.52 | benjamin2 | Hello, does anyone know the debian equivalent for kldstat or modstat ? |
| 10:06.02 | kchr | benjamin2, to do what? |
| 10:06.44 | benjamin2 | to get a view of loaded kernel modules |
| 10:06.51 | petemc | lsmod |
| 10:07.13 | benjamin2 | thank you petemc |
| 10:07.16 | petemc | np |
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| 10:10.02 | cantoma | guys, I have an eps graph documents that i need to edit (add text, arrows ...) what is the best program for doing this? |
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| 10:12.27 | g00se | cantoma: gimp? |
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| 10:13.29 | cantoma | g00se, i try to add arrows and boxes but its not simple |
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| 10:14.39 | MrWax | what is the best way I can start a screen when debian boots with 4 predefined screens inside that screen? |
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| 10:14.45 | MrWax | a screen session I mean* |
| 10:14.50 | MrWax | is there any way I can config it like this? |
| 10:15.09 | g00se | cantoma: This is not really the chanell for this but what's the problem? |
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| 10:16.57 | cantoma | g00se, to add arrows, text and other figures to a graph that i generate using octave |
| 10:17.03 | cantoma | to show my idea |
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| 10:17.48 | kchr | cantoma, so what's the problem. octave cannot edit eps documents? |
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| 10:17.55 | kchr | s/documents/files |
| 10:18.41 | cantoma | kchr, yes but i need to create boxes with arrows and add one graph in the corner of another one |
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| 10:19.16 | cantoma | kchr, the idea is in the paper i just need a capable editor |
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| 10:20.25 | g00se | cantoma: This is a matter for #gimp |
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| 10:20.42 | mikeX | hello, I tried to file a bug report with reportbug, but had an smtp failure, can I use reportbug to retry sending the saved report? |
| 10:20.53 | cantoma | g00se, i will ask them |
| 10:21.07 | fdd | kchr: unterminated `s' command. : ). |
| 10:21.19 | g00se | cantoma: (unless you want it done for you [pm]) |
| 10:21.31 | themill | cantoma: you can also use inkscape for that or try something like latexdraw. |
| 10:21.44 | fishsponge | hey people - eth1 in my machine is not configured, and i want to configure it - how can i do this? i basically want each NIC plugged into a different firewall... and i know i have to sort the routing tables properly, but how do i configure a network interface? |
| 10:22.06 | cantoma | themill, does inkscape opens eps |
| 10:22.57 | kchr | fdd, vim syntax. it's more forgiving ;-) |
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| 10:23.32 | g00se | fishsponge: man interfaces |
| 10:24.20 | fdd | kchr: oh. *s*. |
| 10:24.43 | kchr | cantoma, inkscape was primarily made for editing vector graphics. eps should be a walk in the park. |
| 10:24.54 | themill | cantoma: tias. |
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| 10:25.59 | armornick | hey does anyone know what the difference between bluez and bluetooth is? |
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| 10:26.09 | mazzachre | Is there an ETA for MySQL update on stable? 5.0 is missing some features of 5.1 and 5.2, both of which is marked as stable. |
| 10:26.40 | azeem | mazzachre: check backports, maybe |
| 10:26.51 | azeem | stable itself will not get updated with 5.1 or 5.2 |
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| 10:27.01 | mazzachre | Oh |
| 10:27.02 | cantoma | kchr, Failed to load the requested file /home/jduro/qin/test.eps |
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| 10:28.26 | cantoma | themill, what is tias? |
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| 10:29.28 | themill | !tias |
| 10:29.28 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, tias is try it and see, or what you should have done first. |
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| 10:34.20 | kchr | cantoma, sorry - i could have sworn that one of our design guys used inkscape for that... |
| 10:35.11 | EagleScreen | some kernel releases switch on wifi and bluetooth at boot up, and some kernel releases does not. How can I manage this? |
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| 10:37.53 | themill | kchr, cantoma: I've never had any problems opening and editing EPS files in inkscape |
| 10:38.30 | rgr | when one does something like "xrdb -load .Xresources" this is a system wide thing for X as opposed to per use? If I load one set in .bashrc for a root terminal they are then applicable to my normal user in Lenny. Does that sound right to you? |
| 10:39.08 | cantoma | kchr, themill, apart from eps .. is there any other vectorial format that would be more compatible with all editors ... in the end i will convert it to eps |
| 10:39.26 | themill | cantoma: can octave outputin svg format? |
| 10:39.38 | cantoma | themill, i am not shore but i think so |
| 10:39.53 | cantoma | themill, it would be better don't you think |
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| 10:43.41 | cantoma | themill, i could convert it to svg using octave, then i try to open in gimp (everything looks great) then i tried to open it in inkscape (i only see the border and the graph is missing) |
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| 10:46.12 | [-Blade-] | hi all |
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| 10:48.27 | armornick | hello, does anyone know the difference between the bluetooth and bluez packages? |
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| 10:51.54 | cantoma | themill, xfig seems to eat the thing |
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| 10:52.32 | [-Blade-] | someone can help me with KNetworkManager ? i cant find wireless networks |
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| 10:54.39 | marcel | hi, i would like to install the latest version of iceweasel/firefox on my debian lenny box. i realize its not in the resources nor in bpo. what is the cleanest way of install the LATEST iceweasel/firefox?? perhaps compiling? |
| 10:54.58 | EagleScreen | [-Blade-]: post your wireless card model |
| 10:55.01 | armornick | marcel, just download vanilla firefox from the website |
| 10:55.13 | marcel | armornick: what vanilla? |
| 10:55.27 | maxagaz | kchr, arp -d 10.100.100.10 in root doesn't fluch this address, why ? |
| 10:55.30 | armornick | marcel: the tarball you can download from mozilla.com |
| 10:55.39 | craigevil | marcel: > http://glandium.org/blog/?p=406 or just grab mozilla's firefox |
| 10:55.49 | marcel | ok thanks everyone |
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| 10:57.08 | the_gamer | how to do updatedb in debian? it says command not found |
| 10:57.27 | the_gamer | locate also isn't found... so it isn't installed? |
| 10:57.38 | maxagaz | someone to help for my problem ? |
| 10:57.55 | foo-nix | If I specify multiple wireless networks in /etc/network/interfaces, then will it automatically support roaming? |
| 10:58.18 | the_gamer | roaming? you mean routing and no |
| 10:58.37 | craigevil | the_gamer: as root run updatedb |
| 10:58.55 | the_gamer | craigevil, i am root, the commands are not found |
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| 10:59.56 | chron_ | how do i get deb file only without installing? |
| 11:00.42 | craigevil | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:01.34 | the_gamer | craigevil, thanks, i use find at the moment, think it will be faster for only one search then :) |
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| 11:01.59 | kchr | maxagaz, maybe that address is constantly announcing new arp packets in your network? |
| 11:02.03 | the_gamer | chron_, apt-get -d |
| 11:02.15 | EagleScreen | chron_: http://packages.debian.org |
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| 11:03.55 | marcel | i need gkt2 or hight for a application im building from source. what debian package do i need to install for gtk2? gtk2-engines perhaps? |
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| 11:07.02 | Blade23 | EagleSreen my wireless card model is intel centrino (sony vaio notebook) |
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| 11:10.22 | cahoot | Blade23: try lspci -v | grep -i net |
| 11:10.57 | chron_ | how do i get older deb files? |
| 11:11.21 | miasma | hi, it seems I cannot upgrade kde 4.2 to 4.3 in debian like I did before: http://de.pastebin.ca/1527885 -- does the package manager need some special options to make it work |
| 11:12.21 | miasma | this box uses kde 4.2.4 (from sid repositories) on amd64 now. I thought 4.3 was already available |
| 11:13.42 | humbolt | Anybody any experience with KVM? |
| 11:13.55 | humbolt | Is that production stable? |
| 11:14.00 | EagleScreen | miasma: did you do apt pinning? |
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| 11:14.19 | miasma | EagleScreen: nope, on this system I've just manually tried to install each time |
| 11:14.27 | trumpen | marcel, for c/c++ use libgtk2.0-dev |
| 11:14.53 | EagleScreen | KDE 4.3 may need some packages from Sid |
| 11:14.55 | miasma | EagleScreen: it also uses unstable packages by default so I'm not sure what to change |
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| 11:15.48 | Blade23 | cahoot Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG ( Calexico2) |
| 11:15.54 | EagleScreen | enable Sid repository, reload packages, install kde-minimal, and later disable Sid repository if you want |
| 11:16.50 | miasma | EagleScreen: how do I check if it's enabled? I used the daily unstable installer when installing this system |
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| 11:17.42 | EagleScreen | Blade23: look for the firmware, there was a package in repository |
| 11:17.51 | craigevil | miasma: check your /etc/apt/sources.list kde-minimal install just fine here on sid |
| 11:17.52 | chron_ | a package failed with apt-get and tells me to do apt-get -f install |
| 11:17.56 | chron_ | how can i remove this error? |
| 11:18.01 | EagleScreen | miasma: /etc/apt/sources.list is the key |
| 11:18.14 | miasma | craigevil, EagleScreen : I have unstable repositories on sources.list |
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| 11:18.43 | miasma | should I comment/remove the repository lines for stable and testing there? |
| 11:18.55 | g00se | Blade23: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ |
| 11:18.59 | EagleScreen | miasma: #aptitude update; # aptitude install kde-core |
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| 11:19.25 | craigevil | miasma: doing apt-get install kde-minimal -s shows 0 upgraded, 85 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. and doesnt give any weird errors |
| 11:19.29 | miasma | EagleScreen: it says I don't have the package kde-core |
| 11:19.31 | Blade23 | before forks fine but today i install pppoE driver and pppoEconf and now i cant see wireless networks |
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| 11:20.07 | EagleScreen | then kde-minimal |
| 11:20.20 | miasma | didn't work either. that's what I've tried |
| 11:20.45 | miasma | should I try to remove old kde packages first? can they somehow conflict with the new ones |
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| 11:22.22 | Bagualas | what may I do to test if the I/O is slowing down the machine? |
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| 11:25.07 | abrotman | something like top might show processes in wa |
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| 11:26.20 | pjj | hm I was curious what kind of disk encryption debian uses with the normal installer where you are able to encrypt your disks? |
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| 11:27.30 | trumpen | Bagualas, try pidstat -d 1 |
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| 11:29.18 | thrashold | If I want to install sid, what should I do? get stable, and upgrade to sid, get testing and upgrade to sid, or there is an installer I could use to install sid? |
| 11:29.19 | miasma | craigevil: after removing the old kde4 and kde4-minimal packages I managed to install the new ones |
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| 11:29.51 | pjj | thrashold: I just installed stable and upgraded to sid |
| 11:30.22 | abrotman | thrashold: if you have to ask .. you shouldn't |
| 11:30.52 | thrashold | pjj, thanks, that's what I would do |
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| 11:31.11 | pjj | np |
| 11:31.36 | pjj | so anyone knows what's the default encryption used for disks in the installer? |
| 11:32.13 | abrotman | pjj: the installer doesn't mention? |
| 11:32.23 | abrotman | erm .. install guide |
| 11:32.38 | Bagualas | trumpen ty |
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| 11:33.00 | pjj | a few minutes of google-ing didn't help me much further, that's why I tried here, I'll check the install guide abrotman |
| 11:33.05 | abrotman | pjj: i thought it dm-crypt, not sure if tha'ts the answer to your question |
| 11:33.08 | abrotman | !dm-crypt |
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| 11:33.31 | abrotman | plans to leave words out all day .. |
| 11:33.45 | mazzachre | Any "official" backports I should use for a production server? I want a "stable" (As stable as possible) MySQL 5.1 because I need partitioning... |
| 11:34.23 | abrotman | mazzachre: should use? backports.org migth be the closest you'll get .. but i don't think it has mysql5.1 |
| 11:34.26 | pjj | the answer I'm looking for is mostly something like AES (or something else ofcourse) 128 bit |
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| 11:35.08 | abrotman | pjj: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/PartmanCrypto .. like that? |
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| 11:35.45 | abrotman | pjj: seems a bit out of date .. but does mention a few kinds ? |
| 11:36.51 | Bagualas | trumpen hehehe dont have pidstat in my debian... already installed syssstat |
| 11:36.51 | abrotman | mazzachre: also be warned that the dotdeb.org packages are not supported here |
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| 11:39.56 | Deiu | Hello! |
| 11:40.04 | nickoe | hello |
| 11:40.19 | Deiu | Does anyone have problems with the mouse after the latest updates? |
| 11:40.26 | Deiu | Mine just won't work anymore. |
| 11:40.26 | nickoe | How can I know if crond is running on my machine? |
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| 11:40.57 | trumpen | Bagualas, oops, it seems you need (at least) lenny for that |
| 11:40.58 | Deiu | nickoe, `ps ax|grep cron` |
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| 11:42.06 | Bagualas | trumpen :( |
| 11:43.39 | abrotman | Bagualas: are you lookign for which processes are using all the IO or to see if there are processes waiting ? |
| 11:44.35 | nickoe | Deiu, "2438 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/cron" does that mean that it is running? |
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| 11:45.49 | nickoe | but shouldent it be crond instead of cron? Or has it been renamed ro something? Deiu |
| 11:46.11 | Deiu | nickoe, Yep, that's it |
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| 11:46.55 | Deiu | nickoe, it's just cron |
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| 11:47.14 | Deiu | check out /etc/init.d/ |
| 11:47.29 | neo8848 | i am completely having a hard time with wifi on debian lenny for linksys wmp300n bcm43xg... |
| 11:47.41 | neo8848 | ndiswrapper doesn't work |
| 11:47.47 | Deiu | Now coming back to my issue...wth is going on with the USB mouse after the latest updates? |
| 11:47.53 | abrotman | neo8848: you may not need ndiswrapper |
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| 11:48.06 | Deiu | it shows up in dmesg but it won't move on the screen |
| 11:48.13 | nickoe | Deiu, only contains cron not crond, so it should be running i suppose. btw it is lenny I am running. |
| 11:48.21 | neo8848 | abrotman: is there any good way? |
| 11:48.26 | Deiu | nickoe, yep, it's running, don't worry |
| 11:48.29 | abrotman | neo8848: is it pci or usb ? |
| 11:48.34 | neo8848 | pci |
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| 11:48.43 | abrotman | neo8848: lspci -k .. what is the PCI ID ? |
| 11:49.12 | neo8848 | Broadcom Corporation BCM43XG (rev 01) |
| 11:49.23 | nickoe | So I should be able to run this script in /etc/cron.hourly/pstats (http://pastebin.com/d60b877ad) Deiu ? |
| 11:49.49 | Deiu | nickoe, sorry man, I wish I could help but I got no mouse. It's kinda hard to click links, etc ;) |
| 11:50.01 | abrotman | neo8848: pciid .. |
| 11:50.41 | Deiu | nickoe, just google for a howto on how to properly setup cron jobs |
| 11:51.14 | abrotman | neo8848: sorry .. lspci -nn |
| 11:51.37 | nickoe | Deiu, it should work now, as I understand it... :/ but it doesent seem to. |
| 11:52.01 | neo8848 | abrotman: would that be the 04:03.0? |
| 11:52.10 | abrotman | it would be like 4234:652a |
| 11:52.20 | neo8848 | ah |
| 11:52.28 | neo8848 | 14e4:4329 |
| 11:52.35 | abrotman | judd: pciid 14e4:4329 |
| 11:52.37 | judd | abrotman: [14e4:4329] is 'BCM43XG' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with kernel module 'ssb' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=14e4:4329 |
| 11:52.49 | abrotman | says the 'ssb' module should make it work |
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| 11:53.54 | neo8848 | i'm sorry to be a newbie, but i looked up ssb in the package list and only got ssbd voice keyer for hamradio use |
| 11:54.08 | abrotman | it's not a package ... it's a kernel module |
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| 11:54.43 | nickoe | Well Deiu thank you anyway |
| 11:54.43 | neo8848 | oh.. would you be kind enough to explain how i'd go about enabling it? |
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| 11:55.14 | abrotman | neo8848: you probably have to start by undoing the ndiswrapper stuff |
| 11:55.27 | neo8848 | yup, i removed the packages |
| 11:55.59 | abrotman | lsmod .. is 'ssb' there? |
| 11:56.41 | neo8848 | yes |
| 11:56.42 | sHyLoCk_ | hey if i set a package on hold as root i can't use sudo to unhold it? |
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| 11:58.08 | abrotman | neo8848: you have a wired connection currently ? |
| 11:58.18 | neo8848 | for this pc |
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| 11:58.28 | neo8848 | for the one i'm using |
| 11:58.48 | neo8848 | the pc with debian lenny has no network for the moment |
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| 11:59.22 | abrotman | i can't figure out if it's supported or not .. but if it were, you'd need the b43-fwcutter package |
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| 11:59.33 | abrotman | the driver page doesn't seem clear |
| 11:59.38 | neo8848 | abrotman: note, i do have the entire dvd disto disks |
| 11:59.40 | Titan8990_ | ewww, broadcom |
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| 11:59.58 | neo8848 | i did try the b43-fwcutter and ended up with an error |
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| 12:00.08 | abrotman | an error ? you need the internet for it to work |
| 12:00.15 | neo8848 | subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 |
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| 12:00.34 | neo8848 | oh |
| 12:00.46 | phiwer | anyone having problems with the cpu frequency selector? my cpu on the x60 is overheating when selecting the performance or ondemand selector. |
| 12:00.51 | neo8848 | i meant the package installation |
| 12:00.58 | neo8848 | returned an error |
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| 12:01.01 | abrotman | it shouldn't .. it's a pretty simple package |
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| 12:01.57 | neo8848 | hmm... but it did result to an error, using synaptic |
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| 12:02.27 | Titan8990 | sorry about nick flood |
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| 12:03.37 | neo8848 | i did it on cli, it seems i need to be online to install b43-fwcutter |
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| 12:04.30 | abrotman | you can't get the machine online via a cable ? |
| 12:05.05 | neo8848 | it seems i'll have to wait for the other guys in the office to leave.. for that. |
| 12:05.18 | abrotman | just pull their plugs |
| 12:05.23 | neo8848 | in any case, if i do get to install the package properly, |
| 12:05.30 | neo8848 | is there anything else to do? |
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| 12:07.21 | abrotman | i'm not 100% sure .. the bot seems to think it's supported, the website says it's not .. freaking broadcom .. |
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| 12:09.29 | neo8848 | i was peaking over at an ubuntu guy over here, and he's got it working, his driver appears as broadcom-sta |
| 12:10.22 | abrotman | there is that driver also .. but you'd still need a wired connection |
| 12:10.38 | abrotman | you'd install module-assistant .. then m-a a-i broadcom-sta |
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| 12:10.55 | abrotman | shakes his fist at broadcom |
| 12:11.01 | neo8848 | i went to the package list and saw that , through some dependency hell, i'll have to get my kernel updated? |
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| 12:11.44 | neo8848 | did i get that right? |
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| 12:15.12 | comos | how to use ibus in debian testing? |
| 12:15.22 | abrotman | neo8848: very likely .. there have been a few security updates for the kernel |
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| 12:17.53 | comos | .h |
| 12:19.37 | neo8848 | found no cables in the castle dungeon |
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| 12:20.01 | abrotman | use the one you're currently using ? |
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| 12:20.50 | neo8848 | this pc has the same wifi |
| 12:20.53 | neo8848 | on xp |
| 12:21.10 | abrotman | oh .. no cable ? |
| 12:21.29 | neo8848 | yup, and it's pointless.. because we have desktop pcs anyway |
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| 12:24.26 | chommik | hello |
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| 12:26.03 | chommik | I can't find a grsecurity patch for 2.6.29 kernel. Is there any? |
| 12:26.38 | neo8848 | thinks it is not fair that ubuntu users get their wifi running out of the box |
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| 12:28.14 | marcompile | what was that livecd linux distro with security tools, someone talked about it here last week |
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| 12:28.49 | abrotman | there are quite a few |
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| 12:29.00 | marcompile | there was one the bot talked about |
| 12:29.44 | abrotman | neo8848: they don't care about the freeness |
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| 12:34.16 | neo8848 | recalls why he's in to debian in the first place |
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| 12:35.38 | JyZyXEL | what was that program that allowed to run X applications on different permissions |
| 12:35.53 | marcompile | !blacktrack |
| 12:35.59 | marcompile | !backtrack |
| 12:36.00 | dpkg | BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Intrepid (as of BackTrack 4), formerly <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.remote-exploit.org/backtrack.html #remote-exploit on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>. |
| 12:36.03 | marcompile | nice |
| 12:36.04 | marcompile | found it |
| 12:36.14 | JyZyXEL | no thats not it |
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| 12:36.55 | marcompile | JyZyXEL: gksudo ? |
| 12:37.50 | JyZyXEL | oh yea i guess that works |
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| 12:39.53 | abrotman | sux ? |
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| 12:41.17 | neo8848 | thanks abrotman for the help, but he needs to test a project now, so he'll just revert to his debian on virtualbox |
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| 13:01.53 | underguiz | hello, I want to tell a script to come up on boot after mysql, how can I do it? |
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| 13:03.17 | abrotman | underguiz: you create the init script, and then use update-rc.d to tell it when to strat |
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| 13:03.20 | abrotman | start |
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| 13:04.04 | underguiz | abrotman, ok, but can I tell the script to start after a given daemon using update-rc.d? |
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| 13:06.50 | underguiz | abrotman, update-rc.d example start 99 2 3 4 5 . stop 20 0 1 6 would to it/ |
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| 13:07.06 | underguiz | the 99 says it will start after everything, right? |
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| 13:10.15 | zhxk` | hello, how to sepcify dns address ? |
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| 13:12.11 | stew | zhxk`: in ubuntu? |
| 13:12.17 | zhxk` | yes |
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| 13:12.35 | stew | zhxk`: we've talked about this many times. |
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| 13:20.38 | abrotman | underguiz: you already know the number for mysql .. just choose a higher number |
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| 13:22.19 | underguiz | abra, ok, so a I remove the links first, then i recreate then |
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| 13:22.43 | underguiz | abrotman, ok, so a I remove the links first, then i recreate then |
| 13:22.48 | ranix | underguiz: you can just mv a simlink to rename it |
| 13:23.01 | ranix | mv foolink barlink |
| 13:23.07 | ranix | still points to the same place |
| 13:23.15 | underguiz | ranix, but i'll have to do it in every runlevel it's set to run |
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| 13:25.55 | underguiz | what i'm not understanding is that the script i wish to run after mysql have the S20 prefix and mysql have the S18 prefix... the the damn script runs before everything |
| 13:26.04 | underguiz | right after the fs mounts |
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| 13:26.24 | underguiz | it should run after mysql |
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| 13:27.26 | s4br3 | Hi, I am running Sid w KDE 4.3 from unstable. All is fine except that the icons under the K menu Applications > Debian are missing. Any tips what is wrong? |
| 13:27.52 | s4br3 | Sorry, 4.3 from experimental |
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| 13:30.12 | Gent | ok, long time Linux user here, but not so long time debian user... |
| 13:30.32 | Gent | I have an external USB drive that I would like to be auto mounted on startup |
| 13:30.48 | Gent | I'd like to keep it in fstab... but the drive doesn't initialize by the time debian starts mounting filesystems |
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| 13:31.00 | Gent | is there any way to modify the init scripts so that drive mounts a bit later |
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| 13:31.29 | Gent | and which scripts might I be looking at... |
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| 13:34.28 | Roland | Gent, mount it when you log in |
| 13:34.35 | ranix | bad idea |
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| 13:34.45 | ranix | Gent: check hotplug, in /etc/hotplug or man hotplug |
| 13:34.48 | Gent | Roland, this is a server... |
| 13:35.01 | Gent | I might not log in immediately |
| 13:35.02 | Roland | Gent, didn't know that |
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| 13:35.16 | Gent | if power goes down and it comes back on... it will hang at boot |
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| 13:35.35 | ranix | Gent: why |
| 13:35.54 | Gent | it fails to mount cause the USB device is not initialized, then tries to run e2fsck |
| 13:36.05 | Gent | and can't, so it wants root pw or ctrl+d to bypass |
| 13:36.22 | ranix | Gent: why is the presence or absense of a usb drive critical to the start of your server |
| 13:36.32 | Roland | maybe there's some kernel parameter like waitroot |
| 13:36.33 | Gent | the server is a backup server |
| 13:36.39 | Gent | and the usb drive is used for bacula backups |
| 13:36.39 | ranix | still not following |
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| 13:37.38 | Gent | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=386006 -- seems relevant but they're indicating not to mess with init scripts |
| 13:37.44 | Gent | and a more robust solution... |
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| 13:39.25 | Roland | Gent, you're using udev? |
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| 13:39.53 | Gent | presumably if that is what debian is using by default, again, I'm somewhat new to debian |
| 13:39.56 | ranix | Gent: there's also autofs |
| 13:39.57 | ONE_PATE | is there a portable virtualbox |
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| 13:40.07 | ONE_PATE | because havent root pw for install it |
| 13:40.09 | ranix | Gent: you first want to get rid of whatever's causing your system to hang |
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| 13:40.23 | Gent | I come from slackware background... and I primarily made this switch to make it a bit easier to maintain |
| 13:40.23 | ranix | then worry about automounting usb devices |
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| 13:40.37 | Gent | and it's quickly becoming more of a nightmare... |
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| 13:40.52 | csioktel_ | how to change /dev/mapper/someblock group permission with udev? |
| 13:40.57 | Roland | i think the hang is caused by usb initialized later than automount scripts |
| 13:41.05 | ranix | there's no major difference except the locations of some files, and you should be able to figure that out with Google, Gent |
| 13:41.06 | Gent | Roland, yes, it is |
| 13:41.17 | ranix | and DFSG and support |
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| 13:41.40 | Roland | why won't you mount the drive whenever someone want's to do a backup? |
| 13:41.54 | Gent | Roland, cause the backups are automated via bacula... |
| 13:41.55 | ranix | Roland: you slaughtered that apostrophe |
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| 13:42.15 | Gent | I'm thinking of just throwing noauto in fstab and modifying an init script (perhaps the bacula one) to mount it |
| 13:42.15 | ranix | Gent: your automation can't mount a drive? |
| 13:42.27 | ranix | Gent: why not mount it when the backup is performed |
| 13:42.38 | Roland | ranix, sry, dunno why I put the aposthrope there |
| 13:42.42 | ranix | ;) |
| 13:42.50 | craigevil | anyone know why mibbit doesnt work in #debian, i can get in the channel and see the chat but cant send to the channel using it |
| 13:42.55 | Roland | i'm not a native english speaker |
| 13:42.56 | Gent | ranix, my understanding of bacula is that it won't do that for flat FILE backups |
| 13:42.57 | Gent | tapes yes... |
| 13:43.07 | Gent | but the file one simply uses a directory |
| 13:43.23 | Gent | and it just so happens we're using our external media, making sure that directory is on a mounted fs, etc, is left up to other devices |
| 13:43.39 | ranix | so use autofs |
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| 13:44.39 | ranix | I dislike bacula as a rule, it's too complex |
| 13:44.50 | ranix | I use custom backup scripts with dump/restore |
| 13:45.06 | ranix | and/or rsync depending on circumstances |
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| 13:45.37 | Gent | ranix, I have yet to find a more reliable and universal solution |
| 13:45.45 | ranix | I just presented one |
| 13:46.02 | Gent | custom backup scripts are not a complete option when not all systems are linux or even unix based |
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| 13:46.19 | Gent | given time needed to set that up, etc... |
| 13:46.28 | Roland | Gent, read this http://www.adsm.org/lists/html/Bacula-users/2008-06/msg00363.html |
| 13:46.28 | ranix | the final destination of the script is a standardized file format |
| 13:46.32 | Gent | we have OS X, Win2k3 servers, etc... |
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| 13:46.43 | ranix | you can't screw up dump -0 /home/ >/dev/tape |
| 13:46.44 | esaym153 | what happened to acroreader in debian multimedia? |
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| 13:47.04 | ranix | what are you doing with a win2k3 server |
| 13:47.19 | ranix | what's it doing, jacking off in a corner |
| 13:47.33 | abrotman | esaym153: it's not there? it's not part of debian .. use evince,xpdf,kpdf |
| 13:48.03 | ranix | esaym153: dmm is maintained by someone else, you can contact them and ask what's up |
| 13:48.12 | ranix | they likely have an irc channel also |
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| 13:48.17 | esaym153 | hmm |
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| 13:51.42 | Gent | I will give those a go Roland |
| 13:52.23 | Gent | although judging by the topic of the actual thread... it doesn't work |
| 13:52.23 | Gent | heh |
| 13:52.31 | craigevil | esaym153: acroread is the package name its still in dmm |
| 13:52.40 | ranix | Gent: use autofs |
| 13:52.57 | Gent | not sure what version of bacula debian is pushing |
| 13:53.05 | ranix | judd: versions bacula |
| 13:53.06 | judd | ranix: bacula -- etch: 1.38.11-8 sid: 2.4.3-1 etch-backports: 2.4.4-1~bpo40+1 lenny: 2.4.4-1 sid: 2.4.4-1 squeeze: 2.4.4-1 experimental: 3.0.1-2 |
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| 13:53.31 | Gent | ranix. autofs seems a bit overkill for one fs |
| 13:53.38 | esaym153 | craigevil: craigevil it is not working for me, I will post the aptitude output, one seconds |
| 13:53.42 | Gent | when /etc/fstab should be able to handle... |
| 13:53.50 | Gent | or for that matter, if bacula can mount it |
| 13:53.54 | Gent | that way it stays in one place |
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| 13:54.03 | ranix | if bacula can mount it that is the best |
| 13:54.09 | ranix | fstab cannot |
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| 13:54.58 | Roland | Gent, the backported version was said to work |
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| 13:55.55 | esaym153 | craigevil: I have tried several mirrors: http://pastie.org/582661 |
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| 13:57.01 | cdleonard | hello, is there a way to diff conffiles outside of an upgrade? |
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| 13:58.02 | craigevil | esaym153: maybe try dmm sid, idk i run sid and the package is there |
| 13:58.26 | esaym153 | craigevil: yea I tried sid, stable works, but it is old version |
| 13:58.46 | craigevil | acroread: Installed: 9.1.3-0.0 |
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| 14:00.33 | craigevil | esaym153: i just reinstalled it using > apt-get install --reinstall acroread with no problems |
| 14:00.47 | esaym153 | =C |
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| 14:01.02 | craigevil | Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y Get:1 http://www.debian-multimedia.org unstable/main acroread 9.1.3-0.0 [37.2MB] |
| 14:01.14 | esaym153 | ugh |
| 14:01.25 | esaym153 | I have been messing with this for 2 days now... |
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| 14:02.05 | craigevil | why do you need acroread? kpdf, evince, okular all works as well or better |
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| 14:02.27 | craigevil | esaym153: try using deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org sid main |
| 14:02.27 | esaym153 | don't like kpdf |
| 14:02.34 | esaym153 | haven't tried using anything else |
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| 14:02.40 | teknishun | I'd like to know of there's any PDF reader that supports text-hihglighting etc |
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| 14:03.23 | teknishun | Evince is a good PDF reader, but like most things Gnome, it offers predefined choices |
| 14:03.55 | donavan01 | got a question ... I have a little debian box here that is running an FTP server ... now it is probably not a standard setup ... when I FTP into it via a browser to the address x.x.x.1 I get dumped into some directory that is not the root ... however when I do a "cd .." to get to the root I can't find the dirrectory that I was in when I first logged in ... I am having some issues in writing... |
| 14:03.57 | donavan01 | ...a VB program that access this box but can't figure out why it keeps telling me the file doesnt exist and ideas? |
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| 14:05.00 | esaym153 | craigevil: yea something is just wrong with the repos or something, |
| 14:05.23 | Roland | donavan01, does ftp have pwd command? |
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| 14:05.53 | Roland | or some way of seeing working directory |
| 14:05.56 | wols_ | !info acroread |
| 14:06.10 | abrotman | wols! |
| 14:06.17 | abrotman | it's still not in debian |
| 14:06.29 | abrotman | judd: versions acroread |
| 14:06.29 | judd | abrotman: acroread -- etch-multimedia: 8.1.3-0.0 lenny-multimedia: 8.1.6-0.0 sid-multimedia: 9.1.3-0.0 squeeze-multimedia: 9.1.3-0.0 |
| 14:06.32 | wols_ | thought dpkg searches non-free as well |
| 14:07.17 | wols_ | and it will never be in |
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| 14:07.18 | donavan01 | roland ...ahh thats was stupid of me ... yeah it does thanks ... see thats what I get for using a GUI ftp too much I forget the basics |
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| 14:07.19 | abrotman | wols_: dpkg does search non-free .. but it's still not there |
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| 14:07.51 | Roland | donavan01, np |
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| 14:08.17 | teknishun | 'acroread' is in Lenny repos here |
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| 14:09.17 | donavan01 | Roland or anyone else ...here is another question is there a way to get the ftp to connect directly to ../ rather then ../root which is where it takes me now I have telnet and root access to this machine but no gui its some propietary little piece of hardware |
| 14:09.47 | wols_ | donavan01: use ssh instead with sftp if possible |
| 14:10.06 | Roland | donavan01, wols_ idea is good |
| 14:10.08 | wols_ | where you come out when you log in depends on the ftpd config |
| 14:11.48 | esaym153 | bla I installed okular. It is smaller anyway... |
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| 14:11.51 | donavan01 | wols_ ...no can do on the ssh ... though a good idea .... im stuck dealing with a program that doesnt really know what he is doing so im at his whim and we are using FTP like it or not... where would the ftpd config files live? |
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| 14:12.12 | wols_ | donavan01: depends on the ftpd used. most times, /etc |
| 14:12.29 | wols_ | depending on the ftpd, what you want might not even be configurable |
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| 14:13.01 | wols_ | donavan01: no possibility to install dropbear? |
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| 14:14.02 | donavan01 | well I need to access a file that lives in ../tmp .... cant really install anything on these machines they are very very very stripped down and I think there using just about all the space on the system already |
| 14:14.25 | Roland | donavan01, dropbear is ~200K |
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| 14:16.39 | Roland | donavan01, what ftp daemon is it using? |
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| 14:17.51 | donavan01 | yeah but that may be too much ... this is an ARM based setup with very little memory to it dont even think it has more than a a few megs of ram to the whole thing... as far as what ftp daemon I honestly couldnt tell you I have been trying to figure this thing out but my linux skills are still lacking |
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| 14:18.23 | Roland | donavan01, look into /bin/ is there busybox? |
| 14:18.33 | daemon | donavan01, if you have a shell |
| 14:18.39 | daemon | ps aux | grep -i ftp |
| 14:18.41 | daemon | see if anything shows |
| 14:18.47 | fishsponge | hey people - i have what is basically a default debian 5.0 box and i want to replace the default imap and pop3 server with dovecot. The question is - how can i disable the current imap and pop3 services? |
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| 14:19.09 | wols_ | fishsponge: uninstall it |
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| 14:19.22 | wols_ | btw, there is no "default" |
| 14:19.56 | wols_ | fishsponge: dpkg -l |grep imap |
| 14:20.27 | donavan01 | Roland... yeah I have busybox |
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| 14:20.54 | abrotman | fishsponge: if you install the dovecot imap/pop3, it would uninstall whatever is installed now |
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| 14:21.31 | Roland | donavan01, you have to edit ftpd startup command |
| 14:21.41 | fishsponge | abrotman - so if i install dovecot, whether it's configured to do pop3 and imap or not, it would actually uninstall uw-imapd and qpopper?? really? |
| 14:22.04 | Roland | donavan01, ftpd --help for more information |
| 14:22.25 | abrotman | fishsponge: i'd think it would conflict |
| 14:22.44 | abrotman | could be wrong |
| 14:22.45 | Roland | donavan01, your system uses some init scripts, i guess something in /etc/init.d |
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| 14:22.49 | abrotman | just uninstall whatever is there |
| 14:23.05 | fishsponge | abrotman, i reckon it would conflict as well, but you just said it would uninstall... lol |
| 14:23.08 | donavan01 | roland no good ... I think they took all the --help files out to save space |
| 14:23.29 | donavan01 | roland checking the etc/init.d |
| 14:24.08 | donavan01 | ugh... they ever took vi out |
| 14:24.19 | donavan01 | ugh... they even took vi out |
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| 14:24.45 | metalfan_ | hi |
| 14:26.02 | Roland | donavan01, try busybox vi |
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| 14:26.53 | jeeves_Moss | how can I set a site wide favicon.ico in apache? |
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| 14:27.02 | donavan01 | ok so they didnt take vi out ... weird ... didnt seem to work the other way around |
| 14:27.19 | justin | jeeves_Moss: put a favicon.ico in / |
| 14:27.33 | justin | jeeves_Moss: apache is irrelevant |
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| 14:27.37 | ewet | hi, in http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/iceweasel.html I read "There were override disparities found in suite unstable" -- what does that mean? |
| 14:27.43 | jeeves_Moss | justin, it is in the / of the site, but it's still showing up with errors |
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| 14:27.57 | justin | jeeves_Moss: "it" "errors"? |
| 14:28.16 | ranix | !ask |
| 14:28.16 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 14:28.25 | jeeves_Moss | justin, when I read though the logs, I get a 404 on the favicon.ico |
| 14:28.32 | justin | jeeves_Moss: cause you put it in the wrong place |
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| 14:29.44 | jeeves_Moss | justin, so, as long as the favico.ico is in the /, it's fine to be sitewide |
| 14:29.55 | neo8848 | abrotman: you're still there, i finally got the b43-fwcutter download |
| 14:30.00 | mazoni | hey guys, i'm having a problem really weird. I bought a board, a router board but i haven't managed to access it yet. First i tried by serial port and it doesn't worked because the serial por of this board is configured to just read data. And i haven't managed to access by ethernet too. It has a static ip that still is unknown for me. I've tried to sniff the network but the board doesn't... |
| 14:30.00 | abrotman | yep |
| 14:30.01 | mazoni | ...send any package. |
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| 14:31.15 | mazoni | does someone have any idea? how can i figure out the ip? |
| 14:31.27 | wols_ | mazoni: ask the seller of said hardware |
| 14:31.28 | neo8848 | abrotman: um.. where do i go from this point |
| 14:31.45 | abrotman | neo8848: wait .. you told me you were going to use broadcom-sta ? |
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| 14:32.07 | Roland | donavan01, busybox is a collection of generic commandline tools |
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| 14:32.18 | neo8848 | i like to make that my last option |
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| 14:32.42 | donavan01 | yeah sorry got over run by people in the office be back in a min |
| 14:32.46 | Roland | donavan01, run busybox without arguments to see whats available |
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| 14:33.15 | Gent | grr... |
| 14:33.18 | Gent | still banned from PHP |
| 14:33.19 | donavan01 | I get a list of functions |
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| 14:33.52 | jeeves_Moss | justin, thanks. that fixed it |
| 14:35.19 | Roland | donavan01, so did you find where ftpd is called? |
| 14:35.42 | donavan01 | no not yet |
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| 14:36.18 | Roland | donavan01, look into /etc/inetd.conf |
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| 14:38.33 | donavan01 | is this it ftpstreamtcpnowaitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd/usr/sbin/in.ftpd |
| 14:39.12 | wols_ | yes |
| 14:39.32 | wols_ | wonders if this is a debian embedded box |
| 14:39.54 | Roland | donavan01, /usr/sbin/in.ftpd is probably symlink |
| 14:40.00 | Roland | to a folder |
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| 14:40.58 | donavan01 | wols_ yeah this this things most likely an embedded device ... its a really old build of debian too forget what it is now |
| 14:41.45 | Roland | donavan01, it's no debian |
| 14:42.03 | Roland | it's just busybox |
| 14:42.28 | action09 | oy |
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| 14:42.45 | wols_ | donavan01: cat /etc/debian_version and you know if it'S debian. alternatively: uname -a |
| 14:42.49 | donavan01 | ok ... so debain lives on top of busy box or something or did busybox just steal parts of debian |
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| 14:43.01 | harrachi | hi, cans someone help about xdm ? |
| 14:43.04 | wols_ | but as Roland said it'S very unlikely it's debin |
| 14:43.12 | wols_ | harrachi: only if you can do a proper problem description |
| 14:43.29 | harrachi | vols_: i'll try :) |
| 14:43.42 | wols_ | donavan01: busybox is simply a program like many others. it's even part of debian |
| 14:44.17 | harrachi | vols_: the keyboard is in qwerty and i can't find where can i change it in azerty |
| 14:44.38 | Roland | donavan01, BusyBox combines tiny versions of many common UNIX utilities into a single small executable. It provides replacements for most of the utilities you usually find in GNU fileutils, shellutils, etc. The utilities in BusyBox generally have fewer options than their full-featured GNU cousins; however, the options that are included provide the expected functionality and behave very much like their GNU counterparts. BusyBox provides a fairly complete |
| 14:44.39 | Roland | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:44.41 | wols_ | !tell harrachi about keymap |
| 14:44.44 | harrachi | vols_: when it askss me for user and pass |
| 14:45.08 | jelly-home | wonders about harrachi's east european accent |
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| 14:45.30 | wols_ | "askss" sounds more like a rattlesnake accent to me |
| 14:45.31 | donavan01 | roland.... thanks |
| 14:45.34 | Blade23 | someone know how use pppoE authentication with wireless conection ? |
| 14:45.59 | wols_ | Blade23: tons of people |
| 14:46.03 | harrachi | vols_: what about keymap? |
| 14:46.31 | wols_ | you got a message from dpkg, harrachi |
| 14:46.36 | donavan01 | sad thing is I used to use linux years ago before x windows came out and had no issues with it but I got suduced by the dark side and got sucked in by windows |
| 14:46.42 | ranix | !xwindows |
| 14:46.42 | dpkg | X Windows is NOT the name of it. It's simply called X, X11, the X Window System, etc. Do a "man X" for more. < Zxcvb> X + KDE/Gnome + Codeweavers Wine == X-windows, or ask me about x windows trap |
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| 14:47.02 | petemc | donavan01: you used linux before x windows came out? really? |
| 14:47.10 | Blade23 | wols howto ? |
| 14:47.12 | gravity | I don't think that's possible |
| 14:47.17 | wols_ | time machines are a wonderful thing petemc |
| 14:47.34 | PepperBob | i try to create a local user but useradd tells me that this one already exists. and indeed it exists as domain user (server is domain member) in the ADS. Can I force to create a local user? |
| 14:47.35 | wols_ | gravity: just add more paradoxons and you will be fine |
| 14:47.36 | petemc | could be the theory of the mobious |
| 14:47.39 | gravity | heh |
| 14:47.47 | donavan01 | well unix environment no so much linux ... more the big old VAX systems and what not |
| 14:47.50 | justin | it's not, X predates linux :) |
| 14:47.52 | PepperBob | the informix sdk installer looks for a local user named "informix" :/ |
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| 14:47.53 | ranix | X was around before linux |
| 14:48.04 | wols_ | donavan01: VAX are very very unlike Unix |
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| 14:48.13 | donavan01 | oh I know |
| 14:48.20 | wols_ | and now you did it and thousands of former VAX admins will ask for your head |
| 14:48.23 | ranix | I detect a bs artist |
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| 14:48.57 | wols_ | Blade23: ask a specific qustion. if you need a howto: google. a wlan interface is like any other |
| 14:48.59 | donavan01 | just giveing you a time frame ... back before the WWW if that gives you a better understanding ... not the internet of course ... back when you had to use gopher and telnet to do everything |
| 14:49.05 | wols_ | any other network interface that is |
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| 14:49.24 | Roland | this all sounds like before my time :D |
| 14:49.34 | petemc | it sounds confabulatory |
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| 14:49.56 | ranix | petemc: absolutely fabricatastic |
| 14:50.06 | petemc | that too |
| 14:50.24 | wols_ | anyways, it's all not debian, so just choose the appropriate channel. which happens to be not #debian |
| 14:50.40 | donavan01 | roland it was kind before mine too I was in junior high and conned a friend of my sister go give me access to his shell account at the local college ... this was in the days of prodigy and delphi |
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| 14:50.46 | ranix | everything is debian in #debian-offtopic |
| 14:50.46 | harrachi | vols_: yes it install fr-latin9, |
| 14:50.58 | harrachi | vols_: i'll restart |
| 14:51.03 | wols_ | harrachi: fr-latin9 doesn't sound like a keymap |
| 14:51.11 | wols_ | and we are not on windows here. restarts don't help |
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| 14:51.14 | wols_ | !reboot |
| 14:51.14 | dpkg | You want to reboot for WHAT?? If it's not a new kernel or a hardware change, you probably don't need to reboot. Ask me about <qotd2>. |
| 14:51.42 | xxtjaxx | !qotd2 |
| 14:51.42 | dpkg | <mrvn> Broadcast message from root (Sat Aug 7 05:48:42 2004): <mrvn> The system is going down for system halt NOW! <mrvn> What the fuck is dselect/dpkg doing a reboot for? <trave11er> mrvn: for changes to take effect? ;-) <StevenK> mrvn: You *had* to move the mouse, didn't you? <mrvn> StevenK: damn, yes. I accidentally pushed it. |
| 14:51.45 | Roland | donavan01, I actually dont know what you're talking about, but if you need more busybox help, come to #elinux |
| 14:51.48 | donavan01 | well folks I thank you for the help i will need to do some more reading so I dont sound like as big an idiot next time I as a question |
| 14:51.49 | harrachi | vols_: its the result of dpkg |
| 14:52.14 | wols_ | harrachi: simply "dpkg" doesn't spit out fr-latin9, ever |
| 14:52.19 | wols_ | harrachi: be more precise |
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| 14:52.53 | todd-- | Hello. Does anyone know how to execute a command when a server first boots? So that if my webserver is ever restarted I can make sure my daemons are showing? |
| 14:53.03 | abrotman | !tell todd-- about run at startup |
| 14:53.19 | lvh_ | hi |
| 14:53.27 | harrachi | vols_: i tried dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
| 14:53.36 | lvh_ | im debootstrapping on an amd64 box for an x86 box -- does that mean I need the --foreign flag? |
| 14:53.41 | lvh_ | Since my CPU can execute x86 code. |
| 14:53.43 | harrachi | vols_: (msg from dpkg) |
| 14:53.45 | wols_ | harrachi: xdm is not console, is it? |
| 14:53.55 | wols_ | lvh_: no |
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| 14:54.20 | wols_ | lvh_: you can run debootstrap normally unless you run on a x86-64 OS right now probably |
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| 14:54.34 | harrachi | no |
| 14:54.40 | harrachi | vols_: no |
| 14:54.48 | wols_ | harrachi: so use what it says about X instead |
| 14:55.01 | wols_ | drxx for starters (dunno if it still asks for all this) |
| 14:55.09 | wols_ | looks at gravity with the evil eyew |
| 14:55.11 | wols_ | -w |
| 14:55.23 | neo8848 | hello anyone, i've just finished extracting broadcom firmware via the b43-fwcutter, what should i do next to get my wifi up? |
| 14:55.41 | lvh_ | wols_: Yes, I'm running an amd64 userspace and kernel. |
| 14:56.08 | petemc | neo8848: put it in /lib/firmware |
| 14:56.14 | wols_ | !tell neo8848 about b43-fwcutter |
| 14:56.34 | neo8848 | they're already there |
| 14:56.38 | lvh_ | wols_: Does that mean I need to set --arch but not --foreign? |
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| 14:57.36 | cahoot | neo8848: modprobe the relevant kernelmodule and check dmesg for any complaints/errors |
| 14:58.02 | petemc | probably modprobe bnx2 |
| 14:58.25 | wols_ | lvh: not really sure tbh, sorry |
| 14:58.39 | wols_ | lvh: just try it? :) you should see if it fetches i386 or something else |
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| 14:59.34 | lvh | wols_: yeah :-) thanks :-) |
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| 14:59.56 | lvh | wols_: the problem is, its for an embedded device, so if I dont do the postinstalls here, well :-) |
| 15:00.13 | lvh | wols_: I cant really see what the embedded device will be doing since it's headless and I dont have my JTAG tools |
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| 15:00.39 | neo8848 | hmm... for starters, i tried modprobe b43..? ( have no idea what i'm trying to do now) |
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| 15:01.23 | petemc | neo8848: what exact card is it? lspci |grep Eth |
| 15:01.31 | lvh | wols_: debian/var/cache/apt/archives/apt_0.7.20.2+lenny1_i386.deb |
| 15:01.34 | lvh | Victory! |
| 15:01.42 | neo8848 | bcm43xg |
| 15:02.01 | abrotman | neo8848: broadcom-sta ? |
| 15:02.15 | abrotman | neo8848: that's what you told me your cow-orker was using |
| 15:02.51 | neo8848 | ok, but i'm got an error earlier |
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| 15:03.01 | neo8848 | trying to install that package |
| 15:03.29 | neo8848 | "has no available version, but exists in the database" |
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| 15:05.02 | abrotman | neo8848: m-a a-i broadcom-sta ? |
| 15:05.17 | abrotman | neo8848: it'd probably be easier if you could IRC from the machine without wifi |
| 15:05.50 | neo8848 | i've the keyboards side by side anyway |
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| 15:06.20 | neo8848 | here's what i get : broadcom-sta, what is broadcom-sta? |
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| 15:07.34 | sash_ | does debian on an eee-pc 1000h run out of the box or do i really need this eee-version? |
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| 15:09.20 | Titan8990 | sash_, one has a realtek chipset, avoid that one |
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| 15:09.37 | cahoot | sash_: try #debian-eeepc on oftc |
| 15:09.39 | abrotman | neo8848: is this lenny or squeeze/sid ? |
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| 15:09.46 | neo8848 | i'm on lenny |
| 15:09.55 | abrotman | nevermind .. broadcom-sta isn't in lenny .. |
| 15:10.04 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=broadcom-sta |
| 15:10.05 | karme | why doesn't the munin iostat plugin work by default in lenny? |
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| 15:11.17 | neo8848 | hmm.. does this absolutely mean, that i can't install the broadcom-sta? |
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| 15:11.59 | fishsponge | hey people - i have the same package (different versions) available in two apt sources - when i run "apt-get install package", i seem to get the older version from the standard repository instead of the newer version from the repository i added myself... can i fix this? |
| 15:12.05 | abrotman | neo8848: just means you can't do it via that package directly .. if you grab the http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/b/broadcom-sta/broadcom-sta-source_5.10.91.9-1_all.deb and dpkg -i it .. you might still be able to build it |
| 15:12.11 | sash_ | Titan8990: lshw does not find any realtek-thing in my eee. |
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| 15:12.47 | Titan8990 | sash_, lshw is kind of overkill for that but ok.... so it has atheros? |
| 15:12.58 | pickcoder | does anyone know what library the math calculations are emulated in on the arm release? |
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| 15:14.17 | ranix | pickcoder: I cannot parse your sentence, can you retry? |
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| 15:14.31 | fishsponge | does anyone know how to install a later version of a package from a repository i just added to the bottom of my sources.list ? it keeps installing the older package from the standard repos... |
| 15:15.16 | pickcoder | sqrt for example is not implemented in libc6 so which library performs the calculation? |
| 15:15.26 | wols_ | fishsponge: it should always install the newest available |
| 15:15.26 | justin | pickcoder: libm? |
| 15:15.35 | Titan8990 | fishsponge, did you run aptitude update? |
| 15:15.39 | wols_ | fishsponge: apt-cache policy <packagename> |
| 15:16.03 | pickcoder | hmm |
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| 15:16.13 | sash_ | Titan8990: wireless interface : vendor : ralink |
| 15:16.28 | pickcoder | apparently there is a floating point math bug somewhere in there on Debian |
| 15:16.29 | fishsponge | wols_, http://pastebin.ca/1528126 |
| 15:16.46 | pickcoder | is performing proxy for a vendor |
| 15:17.00 | wols_ | !tell fishsponge about backports |
| 15:17.17 | wols_ | fishsponge: read the backports.org docs more carefully |
| 15:17.19 | pickcoder | Unfortunately I don't have an ARM device to test the sample on |
| 15:17.42 | pickcoder | here's the original bug reported to GCC: http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=39085 |
| 15:17.44 | ranix | pickcoder: probably math.h? |
| 15:17.50 | fishsponge | wols_, i just read the backports thing that "dpkg" sent me, but i knew that already |
| 15:18.07 | Titan8990 | sash_, oh, thats actually the one i meant |
| 15:18.11 | fishsponge | they are newer versions compiled against "old" debian releases... that means i can install it, right?? |
| 15:18.15 | sash_ | *no* |
| 15:18.24 | pickcoder | ranix: I'm not sure. I don't have an ARM release to look at. |
| 15:18.25 | Titan8990 | sash_, the ralinks are the ones to avoid |
| 15:18.38 | gaintsura | how can I detach a process on my server so it can do its thing and then connect to it from my local system specifically to see what it is doing? |
| 15:18.40 | pickcoder | looks in packages |
| 15:18.56 | petemc | gaintsura: screen, but you need to run it before the process starts |
| 15:19.28 | fishsponge | wols_, i already know it's a newer "non-stable" version, but require it in this instance, hence configuring the repository - now i can see that the package is available, but the repository is effectively being ignored as it is installing the old package from the std repo anyway |
| 15:19.35 | gaintsura | petemc: so screen; <my command> ? |
| 15:19.36 | fishsponge | i need to install the version from the backports repo |
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| 15:19.45 | sash_ | Titan8990: so it will not be supported by kerneldefaults? is there a module available so that i can patch? |
| 15:20.03 | petemc | gaintsura: essentially, it has documentation and many options |
| 15:20.30 | ranix | pickcoder: there's little difference in C for arm compared to C for x86. Just cross-compile and you're fine |
| 15:21.02 | Titan8990 | sash_, i am not familar with ralinks but there are drivers |
| 15:21.10 | ranix | pickcoder: when writing code for arm I ran into some minor problems with the size of longs, but I think that was more a problem with the DOS software I was porting than the processor itself |
| 15:21.11 | Titan8990 | sash_, they just don't support injection like the atheros |
| 15:21.14 | ranix | it's been yearsthough |
| 15:21.46 | ranix | the processor I was working on was little-endian, same as x86 |
| 15:21.48 | gaintsura | petemc: thanks... I'll probably be asking more questions here in an hou |
| 15:21.50 | gaintsura | hour( |
| 15:21.52 | gaintsura | * |
| 15:22.00 | fishsponge | can anyone help, at all? i have a later version in a backports repo, but apt-get isn't installing it... it's choosing the old version from the lenny repos instead, despite apt-cache showing it's available... |
| 15:22.06 | pickcoder | it looks like a precision issue to me and libm is included in libc6 on Debian so I dunno what the response on the GCC bugzilla means |
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| 15:22.35 | ranix | !tell pickcoder -about xyproblem |
| 15:22.37 | ranix | !tell pickcoder -about ask |
| 15:22.53 | ranix | pickcoder: start conversations by asking your real problem, please |
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| 15:23.19 | pickcoder | ranix: if I knew that I'd ask |
| 15:23.23 | pickcoder | I'm proxying for a vendor |
| 15:23.26 | pickcoder | as I said before |
| 15:23.49 | ranix | pickcoder: what is your problem |
| 15:23.53 | RR | Hi. Can anybody help me with configuring a firewall for a 4.04r4 server? |
| 15:23.54 | pickcoder | all I know is that there is a floating point issue with a software app being compiled on Debian |
| 15:23.59 | pickcoder | I'm still waiting for version info |
| 15:24.11 | pickcoder | and wanted to know which package contained the math functions |
| 15:24.42 | ranix | pickcoder: it's very likely your customer is using a vendor-supplied crosstool that has absolutely nothing to do with Debian |
| 15:25.22 | pickcoder | I have no customer |
| 15:25.31 | ranix | are you the coder? Are you the vendor? |
| 15:25.35 | pickcoder | geez |
| 15:25.50 | pickcoder | neither |
| 15:25.55 | pickcoder | I'm helping them out |
| 15:25.56 | RR | Anyone that could help with iptables? |
| 15:26.04 | ranix | it's not useful to pop into #debian and ask "hey guys, someone is having a problem with something that I don't know anything about plz help" |
| 15:26.13 | gaintsura | RR: maybe, just ask, if not here try #iptables |
| 15:26.56 | RR | gaintsura: Which ports need absolutely to be open (except 22, 80)? |
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| 15:27.15 | neo8848 | abrotman: i'm into the deb files, but somehow got stuck with linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 15:27.26 | neo8848 | "is not configured yet" |
| 15:27.56 | gaintsura | RR: DNS, NTP, and HTTP (maybe https too) are the only ones that I use for the base of iptables |
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| 15:30.17 | trakcyia | When a program has a specific menu for right clicking the window border how do I access the functions provided by the default gnome menu? |
| 15:30.50 | sash_ | Titan8990: i think, downloading and dpkg the firmware will work. will see it in the next week, i think |
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| 15:33.12 | dokma | OT: you guys know of any good channel to ask questions about wireless problems on vista? |
| 15:33.23 | dokma | I don't know of any windows chans here... |
| 15:33.32 | sash_ | dokma: ##windows ? |
| 15:33.32 | humbolt | Shall |
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| 15:33.44 | humbolt | Shall I use Xen or KVM for virtualization? |
| 15:34.30 | dokma | sash_: damn... tried #win #winxp #vista |
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| 15:34.39 | dokma | sash_: never thought of #windows |
| 15:34.44 | sash_ | hehe |
| 15:34.49 | fishsponge | can anyone help at all? anyone? |
| 15:34.56 | fishsponge | i have a later version of a package in a backports repo, but apt-get isn't installing it... it's choosing the old version from the lenny repos instead, despite apt-cache showing it's available... |
| 15:35.27 | PepperBob | fishsponge: i'd use aptitude for that |
| 15:35.34 | PepperBob | fishsponge: it's likely due to pinning |
| 15:35.43 | PepperBob | fishsponge: by default apt takes the stable branch |
| 15:35.50 | fishsponge | PepperBob, i have been using apt-get install as usual... |
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| 15:35.53 | PepperBob | (i assume you have stable installed) |
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| 15:36.17 | PepperBob | fishsponge: what does you /etc/apt/preferences file say? |
| 15:36.21 | PepperBob | s/you/your |
| 15:36.41 | craigevil | apt-get -t lenny-backports install foo |
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| 15:37.13 | craigevil | you have to tell apt-get/aptitude to install from backports |
| 15:37.35 | fishsponge | PepperBob, /etc/apt/preferences does not exist on my system |
| 15:37.47 | PepperBob | fishsponge: see - then it totally applies what craigevil said |
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| 15:38.08 | PepperBob | i think aptitude is smarter in handling such things as apt is.. |
| 15:38.35 | fishsponge | so "apt-get -t lenny-backports install package" will work... let me give that a go :-) |
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| 15:39.21 | fishsponge | if i do that, then will apt-get upgrade then look back at the backports or will it be missed out? |
| 15:39.32 | PepperBob | it will work as usual |
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| 15:39.38 | PepperBob | it just don't take the backports by default |
| 15:39.43 | PepperBob | to install new stuff |
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| 15:40.55 | mefiX | hi folks =) |
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| 15:41.37 | fishsponge | PepperBob, thanks! :-) |
| 15:41.39 | mefiX | can i assemble a debian-package containing software that are currently installed on my machine and install them on another machine? |
| 15:41.51 | PepperBob | fishsponge: happy to help :)= |
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| 15:42.32 | hark | mefiX: dpkg-repack |
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| 15:43.34 | dimberti | Hi. |
| 15:44.19 | dimberti | I'm running a game in wine, and the fullscreen mode is bigger than my actual screen... |
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| 15:45.46 | mefiX | hark: thx, would that also work with packages "repacking" on etch and using on lenny? (namely dcc-client, which is not present in the repos anymore)? |
| 15:45.49 | rdz | hi all. though google find a lot on the topic, i wasn't able to figure out, what this kernel error means: kernel:[34743.893506] Code: Bad RIP value. is that related to networking, probably nfs? |
| 15:46.42 | justin | !+rip |
| 15:46.42 | dpkg | rumour has it, rip is an old routing protocol, still in use in many places however, but probably better to use OSPF or BGP accordingly |
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| 15:47.34 | steven43126 | anyone know whats the correct place for custom OCF scripts in debian for linux ha ? |
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| 15:48.01 | justin | rdz: http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v2.6.30.4/arch/x86/kernel/dumpstack_64.c#L278 |
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| 15:49.34 | hark | mefiX: see http://bugs.debian.org/464161 |
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| 15:51.31 | rdz | justin, thanks for the link.... i guess i am not able to get some useful info from it, though |
| 15:51.49 | justin | rdz: it doesn't have anything to do with networking |
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| 15:52.08 | rdz | justin, aha.. i thought RIP was a protocol.. |
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| 15:52.19 | justin | rip is a protocol, yes |
| 15:52.24 | rdz | justin, what do you think might could have caused that? |
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| 15:52.55 | justin | RIP is also "Register instruction pointer" |
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| 15:53.37 | rdz | justin, thanks |
| 15:53.37 | eevar | is there a boot.img(.gz) for squeeze out there? |
| 15:53.45 | ajavid | good morning |
| 15:54.18 | mefiX | hark: damn, are those issues fixed in the current source? |
| 15:54.29 | ajavid | eevar, /msg dpkg di |
| 15:55.34 | eevar | ajavid: thanks |
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| 15:58.50 | ajavid | np |
| 15:59.05 | grig | hi guys. I have lenny on my machine and I need tomcat 6 which is not yet available for lenny. what should I do? build my own package? |
| 15:59.20 | ajavid | hey cool, kde has "klash" (standalone flash playeR) |
| 15:59.24 | ajavid | didn't know that |
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| 15:59.31 | ajavid | !tomcat |
| 15:59.32 | dpkg | Apache Tomcat is a reference implementation of the Java Servlet and JavaServer Pages technologies. Packaged for Debian as tomcat5 (Etch), tomcat5.5 (Etch, Lenny, Squeeze) and tomcat6 (Squeeze). http://tomcat.apache.org/ http://wiki.apache.org/tomcat/FAQ #tomcat on irc.freenode.net. |
| 15:59.43 | ajavid | grig, there it is |
| 15:59.44 | hark | mefiX: probably in upstream, but looks like not in the debian version |
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| 16:00.15 | ajavid | grig, if you require latest versions there is a new thing you can try, its not debianzed though |
| 16:00.37 | grig | ajavid: I'm all ears :) |
| 16:00.43 | mefiX | hark: ok i'll build the source form the website directly |
| 16:00.44 | ajavid | grig, if you grab the netbeans 6.7.1 (full package) it comes with tomcat/glassfish etc. and you can simply install everything into ~/bin or some such |
| 16:00.58 | ajavid | grig, thats what I do, works fine on lenny that way, again... its not debainized |
| 16:01.08 | ajavid | grig, you may not like it.. it works though |
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| 16:01.32 | ajavid | grig, netbeans from upstream, not in debian |
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| 16:01.57 | ajavid | grig, in debian it is still at 6.0 (the maintainer is very busy and has a lot of other things on his plate) |
| 16:02.07 | grig | ajavid: thanks for the suggestion. I think I'll be much comfortable with a .deb though |
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| 16:02.58 | ajavid | grig, just to let you know, it doesn't affect your system in anyway, and you can easily test everything from within your IDE |
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| 16:03.28 | ajavid | just make sure if you do decide to use it, to not install anything outside ~/bin or some such (no global locations) |
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| 16:04.00 | ajavid | grig, you can also try to backport tomcat from testing/sid if you do need a later version |
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| 16:05.05 | grig | ajavid: is there any doc available on how to backport? |
| 16:05.17 | Titan8990 | !tell grig about backports |
| 16:05.23 | ajavid | grig, /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 16:05.40 | ajavid | grig, I would first check backports.org to see if its already there |
| 16:05.43 | ajavid | in fact |
| 16:05.48 | ajavid | judd versions tomcat6 |
| 16:05.49 | judd | ajavid: tomcat6 -- squeeze: 6.0.20-2 experimental: 6.0.20-4 sid: 6.0.20-5 |
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| 16:05.58 | ajavid | nope, its not in backports |
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| 16:06.17 | shah16 | ajavid, thanks for the tip, i have installed netbeans from official site, so can i plug-in the tomcat/glassfish thing easily right? and also i am not getting what u mean by "not to anything outside ~/bin or some such (no global locations)" .? |
| 16:06.18 | Titan8990 | source build would work find though |
| 16:06.39 | ajavid | shah16, just don't install netbeans into any system wide locations (just to be safe) |
| 16:06.42 | thanda_ | What is the best method to wipe out the hard drive? I used dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdx |
| 16:06.45 | ajavid | shah16, /usr/local should be ok I suppose |
| 16:06.49 | Titan8990 | shah16, hes saying don't install as root basically |
| 16:06.51 | ajavid | shah16, but definitely not /bin or /usr/bin |
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| 16:07.00 | ajavid | Titan8990, yes, that is what I meant to sya, thank you |
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| 16:07.07 | cr3rzemjest | hi |
| 16:07.20 | Titan8990 | thanda_, define "wipe? |
| 16:07.23 | ajavid | thanda_, thats fine, you can fill it with random or /dev/zero |
| 16:07.38 | ajavid | thanda_, usually the gov standard is wiping 7 times with 0's |
| 16:07.45 | Titan8990 | thanda_, is it really necessary you erase all the data? |
| 16:07.47 | ajavid | afaicr (I don't know much) |
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| 16:07.55 | Titan8990 | ajavid, gov standard is to melt the platter..... |
| 16:08.00 | shah16 | ajavid: i've followed a tutorial and i think i've installed it from root(few weeks back), how can i check if im safe or not? |
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| 16:08.11 | ajavid | shah16, I don't know man |
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| 16:08.27 | Titan8990 | shah16, whereis netbeans |
| 16:08.33 | shah16 | okay |
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| 16:08.49 | Titan8990 | shah16, its not dangerous, its just a PITA to have applications installed from outside the package management |
| 16:08.58 | grig | Titan8990: thanks for the tip |
| 16:09.29 | thanda_ | Titan8990: Yes, I need to wipe before I RMA that drive. I wrote random numbers just once...is that enough. Since it took 25 hours to write on 500 GB hard drive. |
| 16:09.46 | thanda_ | Titan8990: After that I ran out of patience |
| 16:09.51 | ajavid | you don't have to wipe unless you have massive gay porn ;) |
| 16:09.51 | ajavid | j/k |
| 16:09.58 | Titan8990 | thanda_, yes once is more than enough |
| 16:10.05 | ajavid | thanda_, let it go and go to sleep |
| 16:10.09 | shah16 | Titan8990: output is ... netbeans: |
| 16:10.10 | ajavid | thanda_, wake up and it will be wiped |
| 16:10.25 | Titan8990 | shah16, that means its not installed to a common path |
| 16:10.37 | ajavid | throws everything into ~/bin |
| 16:10.42 | Titan8990 | shah16, and you don't have any easy way of finding it since it wasn't done via package management |
| 16:10.59 | Titan8990 | only throws his own scripts in ~/bin |
| 16:11.00 | ajavid | and ~/src, ~/tmp, ~/sid32, ~/projets |
| 16:11.02 | ajavid | etc. etc. |
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| 16:11.13 | ajavid | I hate having to go outside my home |
| 16:11.14 | shah16 | yes, i've downloaded and installed from official site Titan8990, ajavid |
| 16:11.15 | thanda_ | ajavid: thankyou. may be I write zeros one more time. |
| 16:11.20 | ajavid | np |
| 16:11.41 | thanda_ | Titan8990: Thankyou, may be I write zeros one more time... |
| 16:12.01 | cr3rzemjest | hi, after i "spoof" my mac adress(so that my isp "sees" my laptop as one of my pc's) and run dhclient, i have access to internet. However, after some time (15-30min) my connection is lost and i have to do the "spoof" and obtain ip again. dhclient says: " renewal in 27620 seconds." what is about 7h.... how to find out why connection is lost? |
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| 16:12.21 | shah16 | well, i'll install tomcat from pck mgmt and will let netbeans to detect them |
| 16:12.24 | ajavid | cr3rzemjest, its called mac address cloning for isp, not spoofing, but anyway |
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| 16:12.42 | Titan8990 | cr3rzemjest, are you using the same IP as the MAC your spoofing? |
| 16:13.29 | Titan8990 | oh, ISP.... |
| 16:13.34 | Titan8990 | what is the purpose of that? |
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| 16:13.40 | ajavid | go get online... |
| 16:13.43 | ajavid | to* |
| 16:14.04 | ajavid | (I'm not too sure, I had to do this for verizon and cox, but not roadrunner) |
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| 16:15.22 | ajavid | thats when I used to smoke a lot of pot, I don't remember much |
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| 16:17.26 | fxiny | wonders what ajavid was doing when "nyling" |
| 16:17.59 | cr3rzemjest | Titan8990, the purpose is, i can't access teh internets without it |
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| 16:18.31 | osfd | Hi, someone tried to compile hugin 0.8 ?? please ? |
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| 16:19.23 | osfd | Hi, someone tried to compile hugin 0.8 ?? please ? |
| 16:19.24 | cr3rzemjest | how to find out why my connection is "reset" after some time? how do i disable all network stuff and tell Debian "don't touch" |
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| 16:21.01 | eevar | hmm.. are there di/netinstaller -images for unstable? |
| 16:21.19 | cr3rzemjest | i just thought, i could make a script that ping some reliable website every 2-5 minutes and if there is no response then run other script for changing mac and running dhclient |
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| 16:22.13 | trakcyia | Trivial question here... How do I restore all open windows from the taskbar, so that none are minimized? |
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| 16:23.16 | cr3rzemjest | trakcyia: in gnome u have a button in lower left corner |
| 16:23.32 | taiyedbrodel | that depends on what WM are you using trakcyia |
| 16:23.33 | peterrooney | trakcyia: first, tell the channel what desktop environment you are using |
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| 16:24.40 | durka42 | is it possible to block a particular user from creating/modifying files in a given directory? |
| 16:25.01 | trakcyia | Ah, my mistake. I am using Gnome |
| 16:25.37 | cr3rzemjest | trakcyia: click the button 2x, that will minimize/restore all windows i think |
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| 16:26.51 | cahoot | osfd: out of interest - what's 'new' in 0.8 vs 0.7? |
| 16:27.35 | trakcyia | That "button" isnt in the taskbar, though I probably removed it, and I don't see it in the list of things + to panel |
| 16:29.02 | cr3rzemjest | what is the package that used to be in debian that searches repo servers and puts them automatically in sources.list? |
| 16:29.34 | osfd | cahoot: http://hugin.sourceforge.net/releases/0.8.0/en.shtml |
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| 16:30.22 | cr3rzemjest | trakcyia: dunno, i have it here.... something like"show desktop button".... but i have gnome 2.22.3, maybe it's too old for "show desktop" buttons.. |
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| 16:31.13 | trakcyia | Show desktop will set all windows to not display, and then display them again when clicked again. |
| 16:31.16 | Titan8990 | durka42, http://linux.die.net/man/1/setfacl |
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| 16:31.54 | trakcyia | It's similar to minimizing all windows but I believe xorg handles it differently. Either way my question is this. I want all the windows that are minimized to be maximized andor restored |
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| 16:32.17 | trakcyia | Show desktop will not restore a window that was minimized when it was originally clicked |
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| 16:32.40 | tempuser | is this xen disk declaration supported in lenny? disk = ['drbd:drbd1,sda2,w','drbd:drbd10,sda1,w'] |
| 16:32.43 | mederEsite | swfdec keeps TRYING to play flash in Iceweasel. If I try to remove it, it says gnome relies on it to play flash on the desktop. How can I basically force Iceweasel to use Adobe Flash only? I don't care about licensing issues. |
| 16:33.13 | Titan8990 | trakcyia, ctrl+alt+d |
| 16:33.41 | trakcyia | Er, I have a compiz set to that LOL. BRB |
| 16:33.48 | trakcyia | ^keybinding |
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| 16:34.42 | Titan8990 | mederEsite, update-alternatives I would say |
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| 16:34.54 | Titan8990 | mederEsite, or uninstall swfdec |
| 16:35.06 | hacker_kid | im trying to syncronize ftp accounts across a cluster, so an account created on a copied to b and vice versa. how could i do that? (yes i am using the shadow file) |
| 16:35.31 | hacker_kid | ftp accounts are just user accounts right? |
| 16:36.11 | deface | could be user or virtual |
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| 16:36.41 | hacker_kid | deface, lets assume it was virtual (which i think is how ispCP configures proFTPd) where would that be stored? |
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| 16:36.49 | trakcyia | ctrl-alt-d invokes show desktop |
| 16:36.56 | osfd | ok, just forget about that, I'll install it from repos |
| 16:37.35 | mederEsite | Titan8990which one would you do personally |
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| 16:38.11 | Titan8990 | trakcyia, it worked for me |
| 16:38.39 | Titan8990 | trakcyia, ah, you are right |
| 16:38.54 | mederEsite | And btw, what's the preferred way to install Adobe Flash? |
| 16:39.05 | trakcyia | LOL this is so trivial but I can't find a solution |
| 16:39.28 | Titan8990 | trakcyia, after show desktop you can click 1 window, stay moused over it then scroll the mouse wheel real fast lol |
| 16:39.47 | durka42 | thanks Titan8990 |
| 16:39.50 | trakcyia | LOL nice |
| 16:40.10 | trakcyia | Only problem is that doesn't work for all desktops. |
| 16:40.18 | trakcyia | (at once) |
| 16:40.26 | cr3rzemjest | mederEsite: dunno, but if you want to use alternatives and stuff, what i did was: put the *so in mozilla plugins dir, and made symlink/"updated alternatives" to point to that file |
| 16:40.30 | Titan8990 | yeah, i was thinking about that |
| 16:40.30 | deface | hacker_kid, not sure, i prefer pureftpd ;) |
| 16:40.40 | tempuser | If i use that disc declaration, it throws and error that isnt very helpful "Error: Device 2050 (vbd) could not be connected. /etc/xen/scripts/block failed; error detected." |
| 16:40.46 | mederEsite | cr3rzemjest: uhm.. have no idea what you specifically did :p |
| 16:40.58 | Titan8990 | mederEsite, personally i would remove the flash player that i would never use |
| 16:41.14 | mederEsite | Titan8990: but *gnome* relies on it, or it says it does. |
| 16:41.24 | mederEsite | And then it asks to remove about 400 things, which equates to around 500 mbish. |
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| 16:41.52 | cr3rzemjest | mederEsite: in /etc/alternatives there is alternative for flash.... if u put adobe flash in mozilla plugins directory, still there's symlink pointing to opensource flash. |
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| 16:42.18 | mederEsite | cr3rzemjest: ok, where do you get adobe flash? do you get an rpm, a deb, how did you get it firstly? |
| 16:42.47 | mederEsite | through a source in sources.list? |
| 16:43.21 | Titan8990 | mederEsite, backports |
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| 16:43.46 | mederEsite | i added backports to my sources.list, i dont see it in aptitude.. or am i not supposed to see it at all there 'til i configure it? |
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| 16:44.11 | mederEsite | god i'm so clueless |
| 16:44.13 | mederEsite | heh |
| 16:44.14 | deface | did u refresh ? |
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| 16:45.05 | tempuser | \/etc/xen/scripts/block-drbd exists, but it doesn't seem to be working......if anyone cares to know |
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| 16:52.19 | dan2 | how do I take a list of jpg files and make them into a pdf file |
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| 16:53.34 | mederEsite | in aptitude how can i go 'next' to whatever was selected to be installed? |
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| 16:53.55 | el_critter | hi, can you please recommend me a "logmein" equivalent for debian? |
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| 16:58.51 | justin | !wayttd el_critter |
| 16:58.51 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, el_critter? |
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| 17:00.40 | Titan8990 | el_critter, hamachi |
| 17:00.56 | mederEsite | how can i completely reset everything i marked for aptitude? |
| 17:00.57 | cr3rzemjest | mederEsite: well, i just downloaded it from adobe website :P ... i KNOW it's just 1 file, libflashplayer.so, so why play with backports, configure stuff etc... another thing is, in mozilla dir there is 'flash-mozilla.so' symlink, so i had to make a proper symlink as well |
| 17:01.14 | mederEsite | cr3rzemjest: i actually found flashplayer-mozilla after adding some debian multimedia domain to my sources.list |
| 17:01.16 | mederEsite | hehe |
| 17:01.29 | mederEsite | but i accidently have all the nasty 400+ package leftovers from trying to get rid of that swf-dec |
| 17:01.38 | mederEsite | so im trying to reset aptitude's marks for installation/removal now |
| 17:01.41 | el_critter | dpkg: trying to establish an active connection to bypass a firewall (fw accepts established connections but not new ones so ssh server is discarted) |
| 17:01.42 | dpkg | that's too long, el_critter |
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| 17:04.40 | Hobbes` | i got the 2.6.30 kernel from sid to make my wifi device work .. now the power button doesn't work |
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| 17:04.59 | Hobbes` | upgradeing acpi-support-base to sid .. didn't help |
| 17:05.17 | Hobbes` | anyone know a fix ? |
| 17:05.28 | el_critter | thanks all |
| 17:05.29 | el_critter | bye |
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| 17:08.39 | cr3rzemjest | is it possible to make apt choose between dvd and internet packages? i mean when there is dvd in drive then install from dvd, when there isn't install from net etc? |
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| 17:12.16 | jamon | Hobbes`: diff the script(s) in /etc/acpi that apply to your laptop, from lenny/squeeze and sid |
| 17:12.33 | Hobbes` | jamon upgrading acpi and acpid fixed it |
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| 17:16.44 | tamizh_geek | When will emacs 23 become available for lenny? |
| 17:16.55 | ranix | judd: versions emacs |
| 17:16.56 | judd | ranix: emacs -- etch: 21.4a+1-3etch1 etch-security: 21.4a+1-3etch1 lenny: 22.2+2-5 sid: 22.2+2-5 sid: 23.1+1-2 squeeze: 23.1+1-2 |
| 17:17.02 | themill | dpkg: tell tamizh_geek about ssb |
| 17:17.14 | ranix | tamizh_geek: it won't unless you backport it |
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| 17:17.56 | tamizh_geek | ranix, Is anybody working on it? |
| 17:18.04 | abrotman | you ? |
| 17:18.13 | tamizh_geek | no |
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| 17:18.23 | grig | can anyone running sid tell me how a deb-src looks like? |
| 17:18.24 | ranix | tamizh_geek: many people are working on emacs |
| 17:18.35 | tamizh_geek | Anybody tried compiling that from source? |
| 17:18.46 | ranix | tamizh_geek: many people have compiled it from source |
| 17:18.47 | grig | I mean a deb-src line from /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:19.22 | themill | tamizh_geek: it compiles fine under lenny as a backport just as dpkg described. I've not tried it out though. |
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| 17:19.58 | craigevil | grig: deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free |
| 17:20.08 | tamizh_geek | themill, Ok. I ll try it now. |
| 17:20.14 | grig | craigevil: thanks a lot! |
| 17:20.15 | tamizh_geek | craigevil, Thanks :-) |
| 17:20.39 | themill | !ftp.debian.org |
| 17:20.40 | dpkg | ftp.debian.org is not the principal mirror for debian. It is just one mirror that uses bandwidth that was donated to the Debian project; you are kindly requested not to use this mirror but to instead use a mirror that is closer to you. Use a local mirror instead. Ask me about <mirrors>. See http://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror#wherefrom for more information. |
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| 17:22.45 | HellMind | guys where is /dev/hda :( or, what can I try to find my cd rom |
| 17:22.49 | Titan8990 | mirror.anl.gov = win |
| 17:23.08 | adama_ | HellMind: ls -l /dev/sd* /dev/hd* |
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| 17:23.23 | Titan8990 | HellMind, you just gave a full file path and asked where it was..... there is usually a symlink to /dev/cdrom from your cdrom |
| 17:23.25 | adama_ | and look for one that is owned by group "cdrom" |
| 17:23.29 | Theoden | http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/debian_contempt_end_user_values_has_stop |
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| 17:24.23 | lvh | man |
| 17:24.24 | HellMind | not found :( |
| 17:24.30 | HellMind | its a guest vm |
| 17:24.31 | lvh | that guy needs to stop complaining and install ubuntu or something |
| 17:24.40 | lvh | nobody is shoving debian down his throat |
| 17:24.55 | lvh | if you dont want to use it, here's a really bright idea: *don't* |
| 17:24.58 | Titan8990 | HellMind, you have to mount the cd in your vm software first |
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| 17:25.12 | Titan8990 | HellMind, go to: #MYVMSOFTWAREHERE |
| 17:25.16 | HellMind | sd* is found but dunno who is who |
| 17:25.20 | HellMind | -_- |
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| 17:26.25 | adama_ | HellMind: yes you have to get the host system to give the CDROM to the guest |
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| 17:27.39 | HellMind | i mounted the iso |
| 17:27.56 | ranix | !congratulate HellMind |
| 17:27.57 | dpkg | Huzzah HellMind, you did it! |
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| 17:31.27 | tamizh_geek | What's this dpkg? |
| 17:31.30 | tamizh_geek | A bot? |
| 17:31.33 | martian67 | yes |
| 17:31.36 | ranix | !bot |
| 17:31.37 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 17:31.45 | martian67 | !abuse |
| 17:31.45 | dpkg | RAPE! RAPE!! Don't ever come near me again! |
| 17:31.52 | HellMind | I mean in the host :@ |
| 17:32.00 | tamizh_geek | Heh Cool guys! |
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| 17:32.26 | tamizh_geek | How should i interact with that? |
| 17:32.26 | peterrooney | dpkg listkeys |
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| 17:32.41 | Judge-- | Hello.. What's the default layout for iptables in Debian? |
| 17:32.44 | abrotman | leave the bot alone .. |
| 17:32.49 | peterrooney | tamizh_geek: /msg dpkg listkeys |
| 17:32.55 | abrotman | Judge--: there are no default rules setup |
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| 17:33.19 | HellMind | how can I identify the cdrom :( how do I know if sd5 is cdrom? |
| 17:33.22 | abrotman | Judge--: or are you asking how to set them up |
| 17:33.26 | abrotman | HellMind: which OS is this? |
| 17:33.35 | Judge-- | Yes.. I would like some guideline please |
| 17:33.45 | abrotman | Judge--: have you read the iptables docs at netfilter.org ? |
| 17:34.07 | Judge-- | ah.. didn't tried netfilter |
| 17:34.11 | Judge-- | it changed the name? |
| 17:34.15 | HellMind | debian |
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| 17:34.18 | abrotman | !tell Judge-- about iptables |
| 17:34.36 | Judge-- | great.. thank you |
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| 17:44.03 | pingouin | i got a computer with 36 users,in groups etc.. i want the same users, added in same groups, on another computer, i must do it by adduser ? for each ? or there is a trick ? |
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| 17:45.44 | ranix | pingouin: copy /etc/shadow from one system to the other |
| 17:46.04 | \amethyst | pingouin: use LDAP or NIS+ for your user DB, or sync the passwd/shadow/group/gshadow files (assuming the system users are the same) |
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| 17:46.38 | pingouin | ranix: only the /etc/shadow ? |
| 17:46.44 | antii | Hmm, my Debian VPS seems to have screwed up, I can't write my "unicode" characters in bash anymore, only if i press the shift+alt+p combination, what could I have done? |
| 17:46.54 | ranix | pingouin: \amethyst seems to know more about it than me, pay attention to him |
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| 17:47.03 | pingouin | \amethyst: i want it to be the same, without do it by hand, adding each user with adduser :/ |
| 17:47.49 | \amethyst | pingouin: do you need to e.g. create home directories on each machine? |
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| 17:48.15 | pingouin | \amethyst: yes, if possible |
| 17:48.38 | pingouin | \amethyst: ranix ok i guess ldap would be something better..... |
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| 17:50.03 | \amethyst | pingouin: probably, though that still won't manage the home dirs... usually you'd share homedirs over NFS (or some other distributed fs) in a situation like this |
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| 17:51.00 | \amethyst | pingouin: libpam-ldap and (libnss-ldap or libnss-ldapd) would be the relevant packages |
| 17:51.11 | pingouin | thanks \amethyst |
| 17:51.38 | \amethyst | pingouin: plus e.g. slapd as the LDAP server |
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| 17:53.49 | antii | anyone knows? :( |
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| 17:57.25 | marcompile | every time I log in as root (in console) I have to change password, how can I change that to never ask me to change it again? |
| 17:58.29 | drwahl | i have been trying to get wine installed on a 64bit debian sid, but it is failing on some 32bit libs. apt-get install ia32-libs doesnt seem to resolve the libs. a google search suggests using an app called ia32-apt-get or ia32-aptitude, however, neither of those packages show up when i search my repo (ftp.us.debian.org). is there some new way to get 32 bit libs installed in sid? |
| 17:58.40 | bwlang | i'm having a bit of trouble with socat... if i use socat TCP4-LISTEN:10161,fork UDP4:localhost:161 i can get multiple connections, however i get lots of dead processes hanging around. How can i get the children to die after communication is over? |
| 17:58.47 | bwlang | is there a better place to ask? |
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| 18:03.54 | marcompile | drwahl: ia32-apt-get update |
| 18:04.20 | wildc4rd | evening all |
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| 18:04.40 | drwahl | marcompile: where can i get that package from? it doesnt seem to be in debian's repo |
| 18:04.42 | valdyn | judd: versions ia32-apt-get |
| 18:04.42 | judd | valdyn: ia32-apt-get -- |
| 18:04.44 | Titan8990 | marcompile, it should only do that if you set an expiration time with -e |
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| 18:04.57 | drwahl | http://packages.debian.org/sid/ia32-apt-get gives an error |
| 18:05.00 | valdyn | drwahl: currently not available |
| 18:05.09 | drwahl | :-/ wtf not? :) |
| 18:05.30 | Titan8990 | marcompile, or -x but anyways, after it forces you to change you pw, invoke passwd directly and do it manually |
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| 18:05.43 | Blok | About 10-30 minutes post boot I loose a hard drive. If I try to access it I get an I/O error. Before the I/O error happens it seems to work just fine. Any ideas? |
| 18:05.46 | marcompile | titan8990 what command? |
| 18:05.46 | Titan8990 | marcompile, or you can get brave and remove the expiration time of /etc/shadow |
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| 18:05.53 | Titan8990 | marcompile, passwd |
| 18:06.09 | valdyn | Blok: broken harddisk or broken psu |
| 18:06.18 | marcompile | titan8990: i will look the shadow syntax |
| 18:07.22 | vagothcpp | How does debian handle Broadcom drivers? |
| 18:07.22 | valdyn | Blok: we cant debug hardware really |
| 18:07.23 | Titan8990 | vagothcpp, same way the linux kernel handles all other drivers |
| 18:07.23 | valdyn | Blok: ( except for some special easy cases like broken ram ) |
| 18:07.23 | abrotman | vagothcpp: some well, some not so much .. depends on the card |
| 18:07.23 | Titan8990 | Blok, there is a #hardware on freenode |
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| 18:07.34 | Blok | valdyn: There are six hard drives in the system, two of the same model as the troubeling one. |
| 18:07.45 | Titan8990 | vagothcpp, broadcom ethernet is pretty well supported but the wireless cards are a PITA from my experience |
| 18:07.48 | valdyn | Blok: maybe its a disk with a broken firmware |
| 18:08.04 | Titan8990 | Blok, are you using a hardware RAID card? |
| 18:08.06 | valdyn | Blok: maybe its a broken psu |
| 18:08.08 | vagothcpp | It is wireless, what is PITA? |
| 18:08.09 | Blok | I get that. But I want to be some what sure before I return the drive. |
| 18:08.16 | Titan8990 | vagothcpp, pain in the ass |
| 18:08.18 | abrotman | vagothcpp: which broadcom device is it specifically ? |
| 18:08.24 | cahoot | vagothcpp: depends - get hold of its pciid |
| 18:08.30 | marcompile | titan8990: i don't want to ever need to change password even that its 1st january 1970 or anywhere in the future. Is there any way to do that? |
| 18:08.34 | valdyn | Blok: to be sure you need to test that disk in a different computer |
| 18:08.37 | vagothcpp | I am buying a new one, any recommendations? |
| 18:08.51 | abrotman | vagothcpp: something not broadcom :) |
| 18:08.52 | Titan8990 | marcompile, thats default behavior, you have done something that has changed it |
| 18:08.53 | Blok | Titan8990: nope, no hardware raid |
| 18:09.04 | marcompile | vagothcpp: you can use NDISWrapper |
| 18:09.07 | Titan8990 | vagothcpp, atheros chipsets are ideal |
| 18:09.20 | abrotman | it's better to get something other than broadcom .. to hell with ndiswrapper |
| 18:09.24 | vagothcpp | Now I must find something atheros |
| 18:09.26 | Titan8990 | vagothcpp, alfa USBs are pretty popular in linux right now |
| 18:09.29 | ranix | ndiswrapper is terrible |
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| 18:09.40 | vagothcpp | stuff USB, PCI only |
| 18:09.42 | clusty | hey |
| 18:09.47 | marcompile | titan8990: I bootstrapped debian-arm and copied my /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow from the system I am using right now (x86) over them |
| 18:10.05 | clusty | is ther some thing to grind CPUs to make sure they don;t overhear or such? |
| 18:10.09 | vagothcpp | My LAN is Atheros =D |
| 18:10.14 | cahoot | vagothcpp: http://linuxwireless.org/ |
| 18:10.16 | Titan8990 | marcompile, don't have any experience with doing something like that |
| 18:10.22 | clusty | like for example some multithreaded PI computation |
| 18:10.25 | vagothcpp | cahoot: thanks |
| 18:10.27 | valdyn | clusty: hah |
| 18:10.28 | ranix | clusty: I use an application called QuickTech Pro for that |
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| 18:10.29 | marcompile | titan8990: ok, thanks for the info |
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| 18:10.31 | Titan8990 | clusty, as in --- put them under a max load? |
| 18:10.33 | abrotman | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open_source_wireless_drivers |
| 18:10.35 | Blok | valdyn: I'll do that, thanks |
| 18:10.48 | valdyn | clusty: or while true;do true;done |
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| 18:10.59 | Blok | ...and thanks all for your time |
| 18:11.13 | clusty | valdyn, do that 8 times? |
| 18:11.16 | clusty | valdyn, :D |
| 18:11.18 | Titan8990 | clusty, ^ infinite loops are good for stress tests |
| 18:11.20 | marcompile | :() { :|:& };: |
| 18:11.21 | marcompile | ? |
| 18:11.23 | valdyn | clusty: once for each core |
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| 18:11.38 | valdyn | marcompile: thats a forkbomb? |
| 18:11.45 | clusty | would have preferd something that grinds RAM and all. to check sys stability |
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| 18:11.54 | abrotman | marcompile: please don't do that again |
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| 18:11.54 | marcompile | valdyn: yeah |
| 18:11.56 | Titan8990 | clusty, or you could just compile open office with make -j6 |
| 18:11.56 | vagothcpp | Apparently my wireless card works with linux, yyet, I never have got it to work |
| 18:12.02 | clusty | wold have to settle to that |
| 18:12.04 | valdyn | marcompile: so for fucks sake dont post that here |
| 18:12.08 | marcompile | lol |
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| 18:12.14 | abrotman | marcompile: it's not funny |
| 18:12.19 | clusty | Titan8990, i used to do: cat /dev/zero > /dev/null |
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| 18:12.27 | clusty | Titan8990, that any good? |
| 18:12.29 | Titan8990 | clusty, compiling will also make good use RAM |
| 18:12.44 | Titan8990 | clusty, uh, no idea, never tried |
| 18:12.48 | marcompile | clusty: i used to run pifast43 on wine |
| 18:12.51 | valdyn | clusty: its not trivial to know the op that will generate the most heat |
| 18:13.07 | vagothcpp | The card is bust anyway, can never get it to connect |
| 18:13.08 | marcompile | abrotman: it is good cpu stress tool |
| 18:13.13 | clusty | valdyn, I need to make PC also suck most electricity it can |
| 18:13.21 | valdyn | clusty: you could try going multiplications or use "cpuburn", but its not reliably finding your weak spot |
| 18:13.24 | abrotman | marcompile: please don't do it again |
| 18:13.27 | clusty | valdyn, cause power supplyu has not best ventilaltion |
| 18:13.39 | cahoot | vagothcpp: so what device do you have at hand? |
| 18:13.48 | valdyn | clusty: switching it on is the point where it draws most power |
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| 18:13.57 | paxcoder | how do I find out GTK version? |
| 18:13.59 | Titan8990 | clusty, so get to compiling openoffice, firefox or evolution |
| 18:14.00 | Blok | Just noticed that the company from which I bought the drives has gone bankrupt, awsome :) |
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| 18:14.08 | valdyn | clusty: or alternatively turning all disks off and spinning all of them up at a time |
| 18:14.12 | abrotman | paxcoder: dpkg -l "libgtk*" |
| 18:14.23 | clusty | thanks :D |
| 18:14.29 | vagothcpp | My ID: 14e4:4318 |
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| 18:14.38 | paxcoder | abrotman: thanks |
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| 18:16.07 | cahoot | vagothcpp: no luck with that using kernels b43 and b43-fwcutter? |
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| 18:16.39 | vagothcpp | cahoot: What is the atheros driver name? |
| 18:16.44 | valdyn | clusty: maybe your gfx card can draw more power than any other component in your system, btw |
| 18:16.57 | Titan8990 | vagothcpp, ath5k, ath9k, or my favorite, madwifi-ng |
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| 18:17.05 | clusty | valdyn, gpu is lame geforce 400 mx :D |
| 18:17.11 | Titan8990 | vagothcpp, or, in rare cases: madwifi-old |
| 18:17.16 | clusty | valdyn, it's a headless rack PC |
| 18:17.32 | clusty | valdyn, som box is very small and poorly ventilated |
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| 18:17.39 | clusty | valdyn, that is why i wanna test |
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| 18:17.54 | Titan8990 | vagothcpp, ath5k/9k works out of the box but has limited injection support |
| 18:18.14 | valdyn | clusty: all in all compiling a linux kernel is a reasonable hardware test |
| 18:18.36 | valdyn | clusty: certainly better at exposing ram issues than memtest86 |
| 18:18.38 | fxiny | or encrypting/decrypting a large file |
| 18:18.45 | Titan8990 | valdyn, i was recommending openoffice because it takes considerably more time to compile |
| 18:19.03 | valdyn | Titan8990: same thing i guess |
| 18:19.11 | valdyn | Titan8990: i mean, he can just repeat over and over |
| 18:19.12 | Titan8990 | clusty, if you do use a compile method just make sure you use -jn where n = # of cores +1 |
| 18:19.36 | Titan8990 | clusty, e.g.: make -j5 for a quad core cpu |
| 18:19.36 | clusty | Titan8990, will give that a shot. thanks |
| 18:20.05 | vagothcpp | injections support? |
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| 18:20.24 | valdyn | vagothcpp: sending fake packets |
| 18:20.32 | vagothcpp | gdamnit |
| 18:20.42 | abrotman | vagothcpp: not osmething most normal people do |
| 18:20.51 | vagothcpp | It's something I do |
| 18:21.08 | vagothcpp | isnt normal |
| 18:21.18 | abrotman | vagothcpp: which driver do you use now? |
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| 18:21.36 | vagothcpp | none, My internet isnt connected... |
| 18:21.52 | Titan8990 | vagothcpp, even drivers that do support injection need to be patched before compiled |
| 18:22.00 | valdyn | *some* |
| 18:22.01 | vagothcpp | I don't even have debian, just planning ahead as I know past attempts with my card have failed |
| 18:22.01 | abrotman | you don't have a workign wifi, but you do wifi injection ? |
| 18:22.09 | Titan8990 | valdyn, which doesn't? |
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| 18:22.14 | valdyn | ipw2100 |
| 18:22.17 | valdyn | err |
| 18:22.23 | lindylex | hello all |
| 18:22.24 | valdyn | no, i got that reversed i think |
| 18:22.34 | valdyn | my rt2500 card needs no patch |
| 18:22.45 | valdyn | ip2100 doesnt support injection at all |
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| 18:22.47 | lindylex | How can I fix this error "http://www.pastebin.org/8819" |
| 18:22.54 | lindylex | sorry not that |
| 18:23.09 | lindylex | how can I fix this error "error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libgnutls.so.26: invalid ELF header" |
| 18:23.11 | clusty | getting now the kernel |
| 18:23.21 | clusty | guess OO needs tons of dependencies |
| 18:23.29 | abrotman | lindylex: are you running a 32bit binary on a 64bit system ? |
| 18:23.30 | vagothcpp | ELF header, u compiling the kernel? |
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| 18:23.54 | Titan8990 | clusty, probably but aptitude can install depends for a package |
| 18:24.05 | lindylex | abrotman no. I just ran an updat then Icecast started pushing this error out |
| 18:24.22 | clusty | want to keep it minimal :D |
| 18:25.13 | lindylex | vagothcpp no |
| 18:25.16 | abrotman | lindylex: you could reinstall that package if it somehow got corrupt |
| 18:26.23 | Titan8990 | clusty, i forget that its a server, probably for the best |
| 18:26.28 | lindylex | abrotman apt-get purge libgnutls I don't hink that is the name of the package. do you know the name of it? |
| 18:26.55 | clusty | Titan8990, can spend 15min to reinstall it. no biggy D: |
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| 18:28.11 | abrotman | lindylex: reinstall .. not purge |
| 18:28.11 | Titan8990 | clusty, hehe might as well have unpacked a gentoo stage 3 and recompiled all the package on it then :) emerge -avueD world system |
| 18:28.40 | clusty | any clue how i can reach the temp sensor from command line? |
| 18:28.49 | lucas_ | so, my cross build environment for ARM, in Fedora |
| 18:28.50 | clusty | thermal_zone is empty |
| 18:29.01 | lucas_ | apparently has libraries that are incompatible with the ones running under Debian |
| 18:29.02 | cahoot | acpi -t or sensors |
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| 18:29.33 | lucas_ | specifically ncurses, but probably others. should I try just copying over libraries directly from the target, or should I just forget about using them |
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| 18:30.57 | lindylex | abortman this worked "apt-get install --reinstall libgnutls26" thanks |
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| 18:31.38 | abrotman | would be more suspicious why it changed. |
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| 18:35.20 | LoneWlf | after my upgrade on Aug 6, 2009, in Ubuntu 8.10, my monitoring machine stacks its cron processes and eventually becomes unresponsive due (I believe) to too many open files |
| 18:35.22 | LoneWlf | I've been trying to capture more data for a week, a list of the packages upgrade can be had from http://paste.ubuntu.com/252619/ |
| 18:35.24 | LoneWlf | has anyone heard of an issue like this? |
| 18:35.31 | abrotman | LoneWlf: i think you want to ask #ubuntu |
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| 18:37.55 | lindylex | Is their a way to repair an interrupted "apt-get dist-upgrade"? |
| 18:38.12 | ajehals | Hi, Bit of a drama after a recent upgrade on Debian sparc. I am seeing SABRE0: PCI bus error messages and no longer have any working nics... wondered if anyone had any ideas. This was an issue a few years ago caused by the dmfe driver, but I am using the tulip driver.... |
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| 18:38.44 | ajehals | lindylex: apt-get -f install followed by reissuing the dist-upgrade command should work |
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| 18:40.05 | lindylex | ajehals: thanks seriously |
| 18:40.10 | ajehals | np |
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| 18:42.31 | rebgil | Hi, I need to find files using grep that contain controlM Dollar sign in vi, versus files that dollar sign dollar sign, any suggestions? |
| 18:43.21 | Titan8990 | wth is c-m $ in vim? |
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| 18:43.46 | LoneWlf | abrotman : I did, thought I'd try here just for kicks and giggles |
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| 18:43.52 | rebgil | when I do a set list, it shows one file with ^M$, and the other one at the end of the line $ and on a line under by itself $ |
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| 18:44.25 | Titan8990 | rebgil, anyways, if your comparing files you should use diff, not grep |
| 18:44.54 | rebgil | I don't want to compare them, I want to identify all files that have $$, the ones that have ^M$ are fine |
| 18:45.26 | Calvin | hi all, is there any way to limit bandwidth per debian user ? |
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| 18:45.37 | ajehals | Oh. |
| 18:46.23 | ajehals | Looks like it might be an issue tiwh kernels > 2.6.17. Downgrade time methinks |
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| 18:46.42 | bob4891 | hi... i was trying to install a weekly snapshot of squeeze on my new i7 workstation... i was getting a warning about address space.. does this sound familiar to anyone? |
| 18:47.04 | Titan8990 | rebgil, is that actually there or does it represent something in vi? if you cat the file are those chars displayed? |
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| 18:47.46 | bob4891 | i think it said something in the 32 bit address space was occupied and the device may not work... then it locks up... can't seem to find any similar bug reports either... hoping it is just an issue with that snapshot |
| 18:47.48 | rebgil | Titan8990: yes when I vi and do :set list I see ^M$ in one file and $$ in the other ($ at the end of one line, and $ alone on the next ine) |
| 18:48.18 | Titan8990 | rebgil, my question contained a "or" yet you answed with "yes" |
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| 18:48.37 | Titan8990 | s/answed/answered |
| 18:48.45 | rebgil | Titan8990: it is actually there |
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| 18:49.42 | Titan8990 | rebgil, alright so file A contains "^M$" and file B contains "$$", whats our end goal? |
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| 18:50.02 | rebgil | I want to identify all files that have $$ in them using grep |
| 18:50.04 | bob4891 | no takers? |
| 18:50.21 | bob4891 | i7 + squeeze weekly of netinst = Crash! |
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| 18:52.05 | macrobat | rebgil: has that anything to do with encoding? or windows files having both linefeed and carriage return at the end of the line? |
| 18:52.14 | ajehals | Is there a list of which kernel versions are on which CD image anywhere? |
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| 18:52.27 | dutchfish | bob489, you might wanne try a kmuto one (you need a later kernel the squeeze curently contains) |
| 18:53.25 | rebgil | macrobat: no I have a problem with the files that have $$ in them and need to identify which files have this pattern to solve my problem |
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| 18:55.22 | macrobat | rebgil: doesn't grep '$$' file work? |
| 18:55.24 | Titan8990 | rebgil, grep '$$' * |
| 18:55.37 | Titan8990 | rebgil, from the directory that contains the files to be checked |
| 18:55.47 | Titan8990 | rebgil, -r if you want it to recurse into subdirs |
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| 18:56.54 | rebgil | Titan8990: grep '$$' * didn't return anything |
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| 18:57.44 | Titan8990 | rebgil, then none of the files contained the string '$$' |
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| 18:58.14 | rebgil | Titan8990: $$ is linefeed how do we search for 2 linefeed characters ? |
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| 19:01.00 | Titan8990 | rebgil, no clue, what does $$ represent? |
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| 19:02.10 | rebgil | Titan8990: $=linefeed |
| 19:02.28 | Titan8990 | rebgil, you mean, as in, newline? |
| 19:02.38 | Titan8990 | "\n"? |
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| 19:04.09 | cypr1nus | what's the name of the application which is very similar to winamp, but written in qt4 ? |
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| 19:05.09 | Titan8990 | cypr1nus, vlc? |
| 19:05.22 | cypr1nus | Titan8990: i've fond- qmmp :) |
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| 19:12.13 | mederEsite | `ies |
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| 19:14.41 | younes | howto install gnome from xfce4 |
| 19:15.59 | marcompile | apt-get install gnome ? |
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| 19:16.19 | lindylex | <marcompile> apt-get install gnome ? this is what i thought |
| 19:16.31 | abrotman | !why aptitude |
| 19:16.32 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available, and will automatically uninstall unneeded dependencies, read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for more info. Aptitude can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
| 19:16.37 | v4nelle | anybody know about a bug,which dont create users via debian-installer on debian testing? |
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| 19:17.02 | tamizh_geek | I tried installing emacs 23 on lenny from sid repo source. |
| 19:17.19 | tamizh_geek | It installs but with some dependency prblems :( |
| 19:17.33 | tamizh_geek | So am forced to uninstall them. |
| 19:17.41 | tamizh_geek | Can anyone help me? |
| 19:18.03 | v4nelle | dpkg and apt-get can uninstall unneeded deps....right? |
| 19:18.04 | dpkg | v4nelle: are you using Windows? |
| 19:18.05 | gravity | tamizh_geek: I just backported it along with install-info to ubuntu. It was pretty easy. Just rebuild those two source packages on lenny and it should just work |
| 19:18.15 | v4nelle | abrotman, and apt-get can uninstall unneeded deps....right? |
| 19:18.27 | gravity | I don't have a lenny install available to do this for you though. |
| 19:18.44 | tamizh_geek | Which packages? can you be more specific? |
| 19:19.02 | gravity | emacs23 and install-info were what I needed for current ubuntu stable. You might need others, but I doubt it. |
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| 19:19.29 | gravity | tamizh_geek: You'll want to rebuild them though. Have you ever done this? |
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| 19:20.01 | tamizh_geek | Yeah i got deb-src files from debian source and build it. |
| 19:20.09 | tamizh_geek | from sid repos. |
| 19:20.20 | tamizh_geek | I have .deb files now in hand. |
| 19:20.26 | gravity | tamizh_geek: Ok, great. Yeah, emacs23 and texinfo |
| 19:20.33 | gravity | not install-info (that's built by texinfo) |
| 19:20.54 | tamizh_geek | But while installing them they throw dependency errors. |
| 19:20.55 | abrotman | v4nelle: you really should use aptitude .. |
| 19:21.02 | gravity | tamizh_geek: I also ended up making a local apt repo with the packages and letting aptitude handle things |
| 19:21.07 | tamizh_geek | I have some 6 .deb files after building. |
| 19:21.11 | gravity | tamizh_geek: What dependency errors? |
| 19:21.20 | v4nelle | lindylex, http://members.cox.net/tonyt/d830/#gnome here you can find ,how to install a minimal gnome :) |
| 19:21.36 | tamizh_geek | gravity, Wait i ll paste those. |
| 19:21.43 | gravity | tamizh_geek: patebin it please |
| 19:21.54 | eOliva | Hi, I'm trying to run DebianInstaller on my new machine, a Q9950 ADM QUAD processor, with a Asus M4N78-SE mb, and a 320gb sata hdd...but when I enter in normal installation....it loads and then show me nothing but a dark screen....and then I tried to choose the expert install... |
| 19:21.56 | tamizh_geek | gravity, |
| 19:22.00 | tamizh_geek | Yeah |
| 19:22.14 | eOliva | it showed me something...and the relevants that I found are: |
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| 19:23.14 | tamizh_geek | gravity, http://pastebin.ca/1528436 |
| 19:23.23 | eOliva | "Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods" |
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| 19:24.01 | tamizh_geek | gravity, Could you find anything? |
| 19:24.27 | gravity | tamizh_geek: Yeah, so two things. One is that you can't have all the emacs packages installed. nox conflicts with gtk. |
| 19:24.35 | justin | eOliva: not relevant |
| 19:24.37 | gravity | tamizh_geek: The other is that you need to backport texinfo to get install-info |
| 19:25.00 | justin | eOliva: /msg dpkg kmuto, try that |
| 19:25.20 | tamizh_geek | gravity, Hmmm, i tried leaving nox and installed only with gtk. |
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| 19:25.32 | tamizh_geek | gravity, It again threw errors! |
| 19:25.32 | gravity | ponders doing an official backport for emacs23. I don't use lenny, but this'd be worthwhile |
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| 19:26.02 | gravity | tamizh_geek: You need a new install-info package (from the texinfo source package) as a dependency |
| 19:26.05 | tamizh_geek | gravity, Can you explain me the part of backporting install-info |
| 19:26.05 | gravity | That has to be done |
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| 19:26.21 | gravity | tamizh_geek: Grab the texinfo source package and build it the same way you did for the emacs package |
| 19:26.35 | tamizh_geek | gravity, ok :-) |
| 19:26.49 | tamizh_geek | gravity, I ll try that and get back to you? |
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| 19:27.01 | gravity | tamizh_geek: Sure |
| 19:27.23 | tamizh_geek | gravity, Is there any order in installing those build .deb s |
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| 19:27.29 | tamizh_geek | ? |
| 19:27.43 | gravity | tamizh_geek: There is, although I just ended up letting aptitude handle it for me |
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| 19:27.54 | gravity | local apt repos++ |
| 19:27.57 | thrashold | Hello. I'm trying to install debian sid. I've installed lenny. I'm using dm-crypt encryption, with an lvm on it. After dist-upgrade which died in the middle of the process, update-initramfs is giving this error: http://pastebin.com/m64bb00f . Can anyone give any suggestions? (The error with which dist-upgrade failed is the same, but it was about the lenny kernel) |
| 19:28.04 | tamizh_geek | gravity, how shall i do that too? |
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| 19:28.49 | gravity | tamizh_geek: http://odzangba.wordpress.com/2006/10/13/how-to-build-local-apt-repositories/ explains it |
| 19:29.07 | gravity | tamizh_geek: Basically scan your directory with dpkg-source, add the directory to sources.list, update, and install |
| 19:29.45 | tamizh_geek | gravity, Thanks buddy :) |
| 19:29.53 | tamizh_geek | gravity, I am reading that :) |
| 19:29.55 | bluethundr__ | I am setting up cacti monitoring. how do I tell which version of SNMP i have installed? I installed it via aptitude I am assuming I am version 3 |
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| 19:31.23 | gravity | tamizh_geek: No problem |
| 19:32.16 | tamizh_geek | gravity, Hey a silly doubt! I should copy all my newly built .deb's to /var/cache/apt/archives/ before letting synpatic to handlde that? |
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| 19:32.50 | tamizh_geek | gravity, Mean, before following the steps in the link u gave? |
| 19:32.59 | gravity | tamizh_geek: I just put it in a directory in my home folder |
| 19:33.17 | gravity | tamizh_geek: ~/archive is the one I use. But yes, the debs need to be in there. dpkg-scanpackages looks in the directory you point it to |
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| 19:33.40 | tamizh_geek | gravity, OK :) |
| 19:34.43 | tamizh_geek | gravity, Why doesn't apt-get build-deps emacs23 solve the dependencies for tex-info? |
| 19:35.09 | gravity | tamizh_geek: Because you need a newer version of install-info than what's in lenny |
| 19:35.28 | gravity | I don't think lenny ships that package at all, actually |
| 19:35.36 | tamizh_geek | gravity, Hmmm. |
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| 19:36.35 | gravity | tamizh_geek: It's basically that you just need to backport the package. It's exact same reason why apt-get install emacs23 doesn't work for lenny. |
| 19:37.03 | tamizh_geek | gravity, Ok. which version of tex-info should i use? |
| 19:37.20 | gravity | tamizh_geek: The version in unstable or testing should be ok. I think there's identical. |
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| 19:38.53 | DetroitLibertyPe | Hey I just want to thank you all in #debian, i've learned more about GNU/Linux after a month just kinda hanging out in here, vs. 2 years of reading Linux Forums, mostly due to people having enough balls to be an asshole and tell me to RTFM |
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| 19:39.57 | tamizh_geek | DetroitLibertyPe, :) |
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| 19:40.46 | tamizh_geek | DetroitLibertyPe, Learn it by using it :) Its far better than these ones :) |
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| 19:41.24 | tamizh_geek | DetroitLibertyPe, And give the same help back to the community :) |
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| 19:41.39 | abrotman | DetroitLibertyPe: tell biella |
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| 19:41.51 | gravity | Ha! |
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| 19:42.10 | bluethundr__ | how do I determine which version of SNMP I am running? |
| 19:42.32 | abrotman | bluethundr__: which package version or which version of SNMP? |
| 19:42.47 | DetroitLibertyPe | I"m certainly doing my best to do so, I've now written a few KDE bugs and even helped test and fix a Mozilla one, so I'm getting started in my infacy, but its good too at least start too feel like less of a NOOB |
| 19:43.23 | ranix | n00b, not NOOB |
| 19:43.28 | gravity | DetroitLibertyPe: That's awesome. Keep it up! :-) |
| 19:43.32 | DetroitLibertyPe | Haha |
| 19:43.43 | ranix | you need to master the nomenclature |
| 19:43.46 | bluethundr__ | abrotman: I installed the snmp package via aptitude also snmpd and php5-snmp |
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| 19:43.51 | DetroitLibertyPe | true dat |
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| 19:44.11 | abrotman | bluethundr__: yes . i get that part .. do you need to know which package version, or which version of SNMP ? |
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| 19:45.28 | bluethundr__ | which version of SNMP not the package |
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| 19:46.32 | synnaptics | I have a number of images within a directory and I'm trying to make my computer cp -Rv *.img from within those directories, how do I do that? Thank you : ) |
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| 19:47.36 | markybob | synnaptics, #bash |
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| 19:48.26 | synnaptics | All of the img files are in different directories |
| 19:48.41 | synnaptics | markybob: hmm? |
| 19:48.54 | cusco__ | hi |
| 19:49.06 | cusco__ | my eth0, is renamed for eth0_rename |
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| 19:49.27 | cusco__ | is that related to udev/z25_presistend rules |
| 19:49.30 | cusco__ | ? |
| 19:49.39 | bluethundr__ | also I am trying to use snmp walk but it keeps saying host unreachable |
| 19:49.45 | bluethundr__ | snmpwalk that is |
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| 19:50.45 | tamizh_geek | gravity, I am done :D |
| 19:51.06 | gravity | tamizh_geek: You mean you got it installed? |
| 19:51.07 | tamizh_geek | done a clean install |
| 19:51.10 | gravity | Great! :-) |
| 19:51.13 | tamizh_geek | yes :-) |
| 19:51.23 | tamizh_geek | Gonna document this! |
| 19:51.34 | gravity | Enjoy antialised fonts, pdf reading, and --daemon (and a whole bunch of other stuff I don't even know about yet) |
| 19:51.41 | tamizh_geek | Can i add those to backports? |
| 19:51.47 | gravity | I don't know |
| 19:51.58 | tamizh_geek | Actually whats the procedure to do so? |
| 19:52.19 | gravity | tamizh_geek: I honestly don't know. I've never made an official backport. You may need to check the docs on the site. |
| 19:52.21 | synnaptics | Woohoo I did it with "cp -Rv 1*/*/*/*.jpg img" |
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| 19:52.35 | synnaptics | Thanks markybob |
| 19:52.51 | tamizh_geek | gravity, OK buddy :) |
| 19:53.11 | tamizh_geek | That aptitude part is reallly cool :) |
| 19:53.19 | tamizh_geek | Thanks. |
| 19:53.24 | gravity | tamizh_geek: Yeah, custom repos are absurdly useful |
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| 19:53.29 | mederEsite | how do i escape a shell variable space |
| 19:53.36 | gravity | Never do a custom X build without them |
| 19:53.38 | mederEsite | export GREP_OPTIONS = --something --anotherThing |
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| 19:54.56 | tamizh_geek | I was thinking of creating offline cd based repos for my friends using ubuntu. They have very poor connectivity. So they deadly need that. |
| 19:55.13 | tamizh_geek | gravity, THis could help me now |
| 19:55.14 | tamizh_geek | :) |
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| 19:55.52 | gravity | tamizh_geek: Cool |
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| 20:02.46 | vinilios | is debian python policy available in pdf somewhere ? |
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| 20:06.19 | gravity | vinilios: I think it's pretty much kept in docbook, so you should be able to process that to pdf if you want |
| 20:06.37 | gravity | If it's kept as part of the debian-policy package, at any rate |
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| 20:07.14 | sphenxes | I would like to copy files (film, vob format) to my Debian hard drive. i get the following error message: Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume. how can i solve such a problem |
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| 20:19.03 | sash_ | sphenxes: if you are trying to copy to your debian-hd from another drive, try to remount it manually |
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| 20:19.41 | sphenxes | sash_, thanks |
| 20:19.56 | sash_ | sphenxes: is the other drive ntfs? |
| 20:20.30 | sphenxes | sash_, no it is a DVD but i don't know the format |
| 20:21.00 | sash_ | what if you try mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/whatev? |
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| 20:21.43 | sphenxes | i will give it a try right now, one moment please |
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| 20:23.41 | karrotx | booby tassles |
| 20:23.44 | sphenxes | samount: block device /dev/hdd is write-protected, mounting read-only |
| 20:23.44 | sphenxes | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd, |
| 20:23.44 | sphenxes | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:23.47 | Gijs | hey all |
| 20:23.51 | CodeNinja | notes to self, check to see if power bar even has a plug before trusting your laptop on it... |
| 20:24.03 | Gijs | is it possible to see a CPU usage of a process? |
| 20:24.07 | sphenxes | sash_, i get the above the error |
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| 20:24.32 | raz0 | Gijs, use the ps command |
| 20:24.43 | raz0 | err.. I mean, use top |
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| 20:25.03 | Gijs | no i wanna use it for php |
| 20:25.16 | sash_ | sphenxes: you could also try mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/mountpoint or use the gui, dont know, what you use, but nautilus for example, has a very good automount. have to go now, sry |
| 20:25.16 | sash_ | sphenxes: mom |
| 20:25.16 | sphenxes | sash_, thanks |
| 20:25.16 | sash_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.18 | sash_ | why hdd? |
| 20:25.19 | Gijs | then i only wanna see the CPU of that process |
| 20:26.32 | sash_ | sphenxes: you said, its a dvd. /dev/hdd is not your cdrom-drive |
| 20:26.41 | Gijs | no i wanna use it for php then i only wanna see the CPU of that process |
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| 20:27.49 | Gijs | ? |
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| 20:28.24 | smacnay | Just to update you folks. I removed my gtalk account and recreated it. Now my gtalk account seems to stay connected. |
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| 20:33.25 | delaman | im trying to compile a program but i get errors http://pastebin.com/m119c5a21 lines 601-618 |
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| 20:38.52 | TrueDD | Hi all |
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| 20:40.35 | pzn | Hi! I need to "finish" a debian install at an external HD, later I'll put this HD in another computer and boot it. What should I do to reinstall kernel at /mnt/newmachine? |
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| 20:41.14 | cypr1nus | is there any program that allows to print multiple pages on one and allows to choose which pages to print? |
| 20:41.24 | CodeNinja | any suggestions on an application to rip a DVD to AVI? |
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| 20:43.12 | lvh | can anyone reccomend a good debian-based recovery disk that allows debootstrapping? |
| 20:43.16 | dutchfish | Gijs, one word, google: http://phpsysinfo.sourceforge.net/ |
| 20:43.17 | lvh | console is no problem. |
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| 20:43.51 | TeXnicer | Sorry I get mad, I downloaded a bunch of .debs to /media/usb0/Debian/ and now want apt-get populate that, I cannot find the right syntax for sources.list... |
| 20:44.03 | TeXnicer | deb file:/media/usb0/Debian/ ...? |
| 20:44.22 | tamizh_geek | gravity, I have documented the steps in my blog! <http://tamizhgeek.blogspot.com> |
| 20:44.52 | TeXnicer | Gijs, from FlightGear? Huie daag! |
| 20:46.21 | tamizh_geek | TeXnicer, Create Packages.gz of all the deb's you have downloaded. |
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| 20:47.19 | TeXnicer | tamizh_geek, kk |
| 20:47.36 | tamizh_geek | TeXnicer, cd into that folder and do, dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9c > Packages.gz |
| 20:47.48 | gravity | tamizh_geek: Cool |
| 20:47.51 | dutchfish | Gijs, its also a package in Debian |
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| 20:48.33 | Gijs | but that i want it on one process |
| 20:48.41 | Gijs | not the whole server |
| 20:48.46 | tamizh_geek | TeXnicer, Add that path to sources.list |
| 20:48.54 | dutchfish | Gijs, well, with te example in it, that wont be that hard |
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| 20:48.56 | Gijs | oh i see it |
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| 20:49.34 | tamizh_geek | gravity, :-) |
| 20:49.44 | Gijs | where is a debian package? |
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| 20:50.22 | dutchfish | Gijs, in your repository |
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| 20:50.39 | Gijs | lol |
| 20:50.41 | Gijs | what? |
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| 20:50.54 | adb | apt-cache show dpkg-dev < Gijs |
| 20:50.56 | Gijs | dutch: wat is dat :P? |
| 20:50.57 | TeXnicer | tamizh_geek, its netinst w/o network yet |
| 20:51.05 | TeXnicer | packages include wpa_supplicant ;) |
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| 20:51.19 | TeXnicer | no dpkg-scanpackages, yet |
| 20:51.26 | delaman | i added the testing to the sources.list and upgraded, but now i dont want that , how can i sync up the computer to have everything before i added testing to sources.list? |
| 20:51.36 | dutchfish | Gijs, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto |
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| 20:52.20 | Gijs | adb, that doesn't show it for a process |
| 20:52.48 | adb | Gijs: install it |
| 20:53.17 | SerajewelKS | is anyone else having problems playing videos over a gvfs mount in totem with squeeze? |
| 20:53.17 | Gijs | what is it? |
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| 20:53.34 | SerajewelKS | since upgrading lenny->squeeze videos played over network gvfs mounts skip horribly |
| 20:53.40 | SerajewelKS | music does not |
| 20:53.59 | TeXnicer | tamizh_geek, for i in *.deb; do gzip -9c $i > Packages.gz; dont? |
| 20:54.12 | adb | Gijs: dpkg-dev ? |
| 20:54.25 | Gijs | no: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto |
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| 20:55.07 | TeXnicer | tamizh_geek, whats the pathsyntax? |
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| 20:55.17 | TeXnicer | deb file:/media/usb0/Debian/ ? |
| 20:55.35 | behrad | i dont have mkfs.vfat or mkdosfs! which pckage must be install for fat? |
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| 20:56.27 | gravity | TeXnicer: That for loop is so wrong I don't even know where to start |
| 20:56.56 | dutchfish | Gijs, normally you install a package like aptitude install foo .... |
| 20:57.12 | dutchfish | Gijs, where foo is the package name |
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| 20:57.46 | dutchfish | Gijs, i fyou only want to download but not install it ... |
| 20:57.50 | SerajewelKS | behrad: i think it's dosfstools |
| 20:57.50 | adb | dpkg: tell behrad -about apt-file |
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| 20:58.08 | TeXnicer | gravity, see.. I have .debs |
| 20:58.14 | TeXnicer | how to apt-get them? |
| 20:58.16 | dutchfish | Gijs, apt-get -d foo |
| 20:58.32 | behrad | SerajewelKS, thanks |
| 20:58.47 | gravity | TeXnicer: Read the document that dutchfish pointed you to. You need to have dpkg-scanpackages build you a Packages file |
| 20:58.52 | TeXnicer | gravity, I dont have dpkg-scanpackages yet |
| 20:58.54 | ethanol | how can I perform a grep and pipe that through another grep? |
| 20:58.56 | Gijs | ooooooh |
| 20:58.58 | gravity | TeXnicer: Install it. It's in dpkg-dev |
| 20:59.03 | ethanol | cause I need to match 2 words |
| 20:59.11 | SerajewelKS | behrad: np |
| 20:59.16 | ethanol | grep | grep seems to work as an OR case |
| 20:59.17 | gravity | You could create the file by hand if you want, but it's not worth your time |
| 20:59.34 | TeXnicer | gravity, see, the problem is... I need to do that the same way? or dpkg -i dpkg-dev ? |
| 20:59.39 | TeXnicer | what about the dependencies? |
| 20:59.46 | gravity | ... |
| 20:59.57 | adb | TeXnicer: aptitude install dpkg-dev |
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| 21:00.00 | gravity | TeXnicer: Ok... wtf are you doing? |
| 21:00.07 | gravity | TeXnicer: Do you have a Debian installation? |
| 21:00.11 | behrad | adb, thanks for tools |
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| 21:00.21 | Gijs | dutchfish, is there not a cmd for it |
| 21:00.22 | Gijs | ? |
| 21:00.37 | dutchfish | Gijs, that are the commands |
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| 21:00.58 | gravity | TeXnicer: Also, have you ever installed any software in linux before? |
| 21:00.59 | TeXnicer | gravity, as already pointed out, its a netinst w/o netcontact, since the only allowed acces is WEP. Right now I am about to install wpasupplicant in order to gain access to the net |
| 21:01.17 | gravity | TeXnicer: So just dpkg -i it, don't bother with an apt repo |
| 21:01.22 | TeXnicer | gravity, |
| 21:01.28 | TeXnicer | I have netinst w/o network |
| 21:01.38 | gravity | dpkg -i |
| 21:01.38 | dpkg | gravity: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 21:01.48 | gravity | dpkg: I'm illiterate :-( |
| 21:01.48 | dpkg | wish i knew, gravity |
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| 21:01.51 | TeXnicer | Those packages are for wpasupplicant in order to gain net access |
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| 21:03.07 | vasuvi | Out of curiosity, anybody know when Iceweasel 3.5 will make it out of Experimental and hit Unstable? |
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| 21:05.55 | SerajewelKS | vasuvi: when it's ready |
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| 21:06.46 | Gijs | dutchfish, i mean to view the CPU of a process |
| 21:06.48 | Gijs | only the CPU |
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| 21:07.30 | paxcoder | !ping |
| 21:07.31 | dpkg | Yes, paxcoder, you are online. |
| 21:07.56 | Gijs | !ping |
| 21:07.56 | dpkg | Yes, gijs, you are online. |
| 21:07.59 | Gijs | lol |
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| 21:08.08 | dutchfish | Gijs, you mean like cat /proc/stat | grep cpu ? |
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| 21:08.45 | SerajewelKS | Gijs: "top" is good if you want an interactive view |
| 21:08.46 | Gijs | if i start something like example: znc |
| 21:08.57 | Gijs | and i wanna know the CPU from it then what cmd i need to use? |
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| 21:09.33 | dutchfish | Gijs, top -p [pid of process] |
| 21:10.39 | dutchfish | Gijs, ps auxww | grep [pid of process] |
| 21:10.41 | Gijs | and then i wanna do that with php lol |
| 21:11.39 | dutchfish | Gijs, see the fie manuals: http://nl2.php.net/shell_exec |
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| 21:17.21 | TeXnicer | ,memoserver |
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| 21:21.52 | yangpp | is there a way to clean /etc/apt/sources.list archive and re-create it ? |
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| 21:22.19 | markybob | uh. rm /etc/apt/sources.list && touch /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 21:23.16 | yangpp | I mean not that specific file, but the packages list |
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| 21:24.51 | xFred_ | Running iceweasel on a 64-bits Debian 5, Flashplayer 10 can't produce any sound since I've installed an ens-1370. I also hold an NVIDIA soundcard that is now card-1. Both sound cards work well, but not ens-1370 (card-0) with Flash. Any idea to get Flash working on ens-1370 ? |
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| 21:26.31 | yangpp | markybob: somewhere like /var/cache/apt...? |
| 21:26.35 | dutchfish | xFred_, have you tried the 64 bit one fro adobe's latest, unpack and coy it in .mozilla/plugin dir |
| 21:26.46 | dutchfish | s/coy/cpoy |
| 21:26.48 | mederEsite | I'm browsing a network drive but I can't seem to copy the files from it |
| 21:26.52 | dutchfish | copy* |
| 21:27.02 | mederEsite | Could it be because I'm not root? Or? |
| 21:27.19 | mederEsite | And, how could I browse it from within the command line? I'm connecting to it with smb:// .. |
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| 21:28.12 | kazzy | does anyone know how to get Alien to run a few commands before wrapping up a package? |
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| 21:29.05 | xFred_ | dutchfish: no .mozilla/plugin in ~. It seems (used) plugin installs in /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/ (but I also see /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flash-mozilla.so). The latest 64-bit flash is in /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/. |
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| 21:32.43 | dutchfish | xFred_, if those dont work rmeove them, create .mozilla/plugin and download it from http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html (at bottom of page) unpack it into that dir |
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| 21:33.53 | mederEsite | how can i setup a new samba connection as root? |
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| 21:35.00 | xFred_ | dutchfish: Ty. Same thing yet. (Did I mention that video does work and only sound disappeared after physical installation of second soundcard ?) |
| 21:35.30 | dutchfish | xFred_, is alsa configured correctly |
| 21:36.00 | acu | I want to use a higher version of EKIGA - the difference between EKIGA 2.2 (which comes with Lenny) and SID (3.25) is HUGE - however if I enable temporary SID and try to install ekiga only - it tries to remove everything even the dependencies are few - is any solution ? |
| 21:36.03 | xFred_ | dutchfish: I guess it is, as both sound cards can play sounds (eg. using mplayer or games). |
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| 21:37.35 | acu | mederEsite: I am using gadmin-samba - is a GUI which allows you to do everything |
| 21:37.50 | mederEsite | acu: ah, i can get that from aptitude? |
| 21:38.03 | acu | of course |
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| 21:38.22 | acu | I use Synaptic Package Manager but aptitude is the same |
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| 21:39.08 | Gent | ok... does anyone know where I might be able to find pretty vanila php 5.3 packages for debian |
| 21:39.17 | Gent | no Suhosin... no additional patches they might add |
| 21:39.26 | Gent | as vanilla as possible... |
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| 21:40.25 | xFred_ | dutchfish/*: using aptitude, flashplugin-nonfree package suggests (unavailable) flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound package. Would it help ? |
| 21:40.43 | valdyn | judd: versions ekiga |
| 21:40.44 | judd | valdyn: ekiga -- etch: 2.0.3-6 etch-backports: 2.0.11-2~bpo40+1 lenny: 2.0.12-1+nmu1 sid: 3.2.5-1 squeeze: 3.2.5-1 |
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| 21:42.21 | acu | valdyn: how is squeeze? |
| 21:42.45 | valdyn | !squeeze |
| 21:42.46 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the next release. It is the three-eyed space alien. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/09/msg00000.html Ask me about <testing>. Not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze. Expected to be released in early 2010, see http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090729 Will be known as Debian 6.0. |
| 21:43.10 | valdyn | acu: have you tried backporting ekiga? |
| 21:43.49 | acu | no, I have to look what is in backports at all - but any version above 3 will do it - the difference is huge from the 2.0 |
| 21:43.56 | acu | !backports |
| 21:43.56 | dpkg | somebody said backport was a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.org/. Ask me about <backports.org> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 21:44.08 | valdyn | acu: its not at backports.org |
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| 21:44.20 | valdyn | acu: you want to try simple sid backport |
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| 21:44.41 | Evet | is the XD (Execute Disable Bit) supported by debian |
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| 21:45.04 | valdyn | !nx |
| 21:45.04 | dpkg | [nx] http://www.nomachine.com/ NX terminal server client/server. Like VNC but faster, with security, multi-client. Partially non-free. #nx |
| 21:45.10 | valdyn | oo |
| 21:45.11 | valdyn | !xd |
| 21:45.12 | dpkg | xD is a one-eyed, stoned, shit-eating grin, or a really unfunny smily face like :) but worse |
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| 21:45.18 | valdyn | haha |
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| 21:45.20 | valdyn | !smash |
| 21:45.34 | Evet | lol |
| 21:45.43 | valdyn | Evet: i thought it was standard across most if not all distros |
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| 21:46.08 | dutchfish | xFred_, you can try, but i had succes with my former suggestion |
| 21:46.27 | acu | valdyn: I would try anything which works - I have a workstation with Debian Lenny - AMD64 could you tell me what to do to have ekiga 3 or above - could I have a sid backport to lenny ? |
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| 21:47.04 | acu | Evet: try x11vnc |
| 21:47.10 | valdyn | acu: thats what a sid backport is |
| 21:47.32 | valdyn | acu: it does not work straightforward for all packages, you need to try ( or find someone who did ) |
| 21:47.37 | xFred_ | dutchfish: I've followed it, but without success. I'm trying to remove flash related debian package before trying your solution again. But it seems that there is an huge mess in dependencies... |
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| 21:48.51 | dutchfish | xFred_, yes |
| 21:48.52 | eevar | any simple way to upgrade lenny to a 2.6.26 kernel offline? -- have a 2GB usb stick as my only media |
| 21:48.57 | Evet | ty |
| 21:49.14 | acu | valdyn what is sid backport - where can I get it |
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| 21:49.22 | valdyn | !simple sid backport |
| 21:49.22 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
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| 21:50.34 | cypr1nus | what kde metapackage should I install to have whole KDE4? (everyting included) apt-get install kde ? |
| 21:50.43 | valdyn | Evet: 32-bit debian probably has no nx while debian/amd64 should have it |
| 21:50.49 | cypr1nus | i've got only kde-minimal |
| 21:50.51 | blendmaster1024 | i heard that debian is going to a "regular" release schedule. that's just silly nonsense, right? |
| 21:50.55 | maligor | cypr1nus, kde4 I think |
| 21:51.06 | valdyn | blendmaster1024: define "regular" |
| 21:51.10 | Evet | valdyn, yes, found out from wikipedia |
| 21:51.11 | Evet | ty |
| 21:51.24 | maligor | or kde-full in sid |
| 21:51.27 | blendmaster1024 | "regular" = "6 month" |
| 21:51.31 | cypr1nus | maligor: there's no such package like kde4 |
| 21:51.37 | valdyn | blendmaster1024: thats nonsense then |
| 21:51.41 | blendmaster1024 | phew |
| 21:51.59 | blendmaster1024 | onyone know of a tutorial on programming with Objective C? |
| 21:52.02 | valdyn | blendmaster1024: but its trying to have fixed freeze times |
| 21:52.08 | xFred_ | dutchfish: no way. |
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| 21:52.20 | blendmaster1024 | anyone* |
| 21:52.27 | acu | how can I check what version of ekiga is in squeeze |
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| 21:53.04 | valdyn | google gives me 3.420.000 results for "objective+c+tutorial" |
| 21:53.05 | dutchfish | xFred_, .mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so |
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| 21:53.30 | valdyn | acu: we just check that |
| 21:53.38 | valdyn | judd: versions ekiga |
| 21:53.38 | judd | valdyn: ekiga -- etch: 2.0.3-6 etch-backports: 2.0.11-2~bpo40+1 lenny: 2.0.12-1+nmu1 sid: 3.2.5-1 squeeze: 3.2.5-1 |
| 21:53.46 | blendmaster1024 | ok thanks valdyn, i was googling the wrong thing |
| 21:54.01 | xFred_ | dutchfish: yeah, I've tryed that. Plugin works - as good as when I use Debian packaged one. That is to say without any sound. |
| 21:54.15 | dutchfish | xFred_, check alsa |
| 21:54.24 | acu | valdyn: so I can enable squeeze repos to install ekiga and go back to lenny then ? |
| 21:54.56 | themill | cypr1nus: /msg dpkg install kde4 |
| 21:55.37 | dutchfish | xFred_, do the other packages like amarok or the like work on alsa? |
| 21:56.21 | xFred_ | dutchfish: yes. mplayer and few games I've tested do. |
| 21:56.32 | xFred_ | dutchfish: alsa levels seem OK. |
| 21:56.34 | valdyn | acu: you should make a simple sid backport |
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| 21:56.47 | dutchfish | xFred_, 2nd, no other osnds devices in the system? |
| 21:56.56 | valdyn | acu: where you can use the same procedure to make a simple squeeze backport |
| 21:57.00 | ranix | xFred_: alsa levels OK, dilithium refraction green, all systems go |
| 21:57.00 | dutchfish | sound* |
| 21:57.03 | valdyn | acu: dpkg gave instructions |
| 21:57.05 | acu | valdyn: how do I do that ? |
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| 21:57.36 | xFred_ | dutchfish: two sound devices, if that's your question. |
| 21:57.53 | xFred_ | dutchfish: trouble started when I've installed second sound card. |
| 21:57.57 | dutchfish | xFred_, then you need to alter the preferred one in a config |
| 21:57.59 | Evet | how to run need for speed undercover on debian? |
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| 21:58.11 | xFred_ | dutchfish: iceweaselrc ? |
| 21:58.20 | dutchfish | xFred_, nope |
| 21:58.28 | acu | how can I remove only ekiga and nothing else apt-get --purge remove ekiga (and what ?) |
| 21:59.14 | valdyn | acu: nothing else |
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| 22:00.19 | xFred_ | dutchfish: I've only changed /etc/modprobe.d/sound to get my latest installed card as the default's. |
| 22:01.04 | Nikke | why cant i access my debian server with ssh? i just installed it.. i added sshd : all into /etc/hosts.allow |
| 22:01.07 | dutchfish | xFred_, have you tried /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-sound-blacklist.conf (blacklist the unwanted one) ? |
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| 22:02.56 | xFred_ | dutchfish: I'm not sure to understand. Why should I blacklist some modules since both sound cards work (expect for Flash) ? |
| 22:03.39 | dutchfish | xFred_, just to find out if that lib gets confused by 2 soundcards, if not we yes, we now what to fix |
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| 22:04.02 | dutchfish | s/now/know |
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| 22:06.13 | phoenix_andthor | Hello everyone! |
| 22:06.16 | dutchfish | xFred_, you could also try changing index in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf |
| 22:06.35 | xFred_ | dutchfish: hm ok. I guess I can try to rmmod corresponding module also. This seems more quick. |
| 22:07.30 | dutchfish | xFred_, i am not sure, but give it a try |
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| 22:08.13 | dutchfish | xFred_, i had simular troubles with a headphone |
| 22:09.20 | phoenix_andthor | I'm sorry to interrupt, but I just managed to get online booting from USB external hard drive (fresh install, no dist upgrade). So far, everything is working great except Synaptic. I just updated and now the search button in Synaptic is broken, display no search results. I've tried search for xorg and got nothing, so the problem isn't what I am trying to find. Any ideas? |
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| 22:09.42 | ranix | phoenix_andthor: can you apt-get update? |
| 22:09.54 | phoenix_andthor | yes |
| 22:10.10 | phoenix_andthor | that doesn't fix the problem though |
| 22:10.14 | ranix | phoenix_andthor: can you apt-cache search mysql? |
| 22:11.00 | phoenix_andthor | yes |
| 22:11.37 | ranix | phoenix_andthor: no clue |
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| 22:12.46 | phoenix_andthor | The strange thing about it is if I just start typing something, a little box appears down the lower right portion of the screen and it starts highlighting the package names that match |
| 22:13.05 | phoenix_andthor | it won't let me search by description |
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| 22:14.18 | phoenix_andthor | I already tried search on google, no dice |
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| 22:15.52 | phoenix_andthor | someone want to tell me why my search button in Synaptic suddenly stopped working? |
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| 22:16.53 | cypr1nus | themill: thanks, it works :) |
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| 22:17.09 | themill | :) |
| 22:17.38 | xFred_ | dutchfish: nothing more. I've disabled 2d card. Shouldn't a "fuser /dev/snd/*" show me a couple of line when flash is using sound ? |
| 22:17.58 | bododo | hi folks! :) |
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| 22:19.08 | bododo | I'm on an ibook G4 (ppc) and sometimes my trackpad freezes (doesn't work well) is there a way I can restart the daemon (if deamon is) and what is it, please? |
| 22:19.43 | dutchfish | xFred_, not sure |
| 22:21.10 | dutchfish | xFred_, on mine i have pcmxxxxx in there |
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| 22:21.16 | phoenix_andthor | I fixed it! Everyone, if the Search button in Synaptic suddenly stops working, then run gksu nautilus and navigate to /root/ From there, delete the .synaptic folder, close nautilus, and then start Synaptic again. |
| 22:21.51 | phoenix_andthor | resetting Syaptic configuration, what a simple solution |
| 22:22.08 | bododo | anyone, please? The only thing that works for me, shame, is to reboot my machine :( |
| 22:22.30 | phoenix_andthor | alright, someone hit me with a problem, I'm bored :) |
| 22:22.43 | xFred_ | dutchfish: that sounds normal. |
| 22:23.02 | dutchfish | xFred_, editing the options snd-xxxx index= param in alsa-base.conf did it for me |
| 22:23.06 | bododo | phoenix_andthor: mine :) |
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| 22:23.42 | bododo | phoenix_andthor: trackpad freezes, I want to restart something to make it work again |
| 22:23.44 | xFred_ | dutchfish: bah. gtg now. Ty for your help... I did edit those options and soundcards /work/ (except for flash). |
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| 22:24.05 | dutchfish | xFred_, ok, give it another hsot tommorrow good luck |
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| 22:24.31 | xFred_ | dutchfish: tyvm, see you. |
| 22:25.16 | phoenix_andthor | bododo, you there? |
| 22:25.42 | bododo | phoenix_andthor: yes |
| 22:26.02 | phoenix_andthor | okay what kind of laptop do you have? |
| 22:26.10 | bododo | phoenix_andthor: did you get my problem? (sorry English is my 4th language) |
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| 22:26.19 | bododo | phoenix_andthor: ibook G4 |
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| 22:26.36 | phoenix_andthor | Ah, the PowerPC arch |
| 22:26.42 | phoenix_andthor | very troublesome |
| 22:26.46 | bododo | yeah :) |
| 22:26.50 | bododo | definitely |
| 22:27.17 | bododo | I'm not looking for a parmanant fix since I'm sure the hardware sucks anyway |
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| 22:27.30 | bododo | I'm just looking for a fix when it happens |
| 22:27.43 | phoenix_andthor | never used it, always though anything Apple was for Mac OS |
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| 22:28.30 | phoenix_andthor | So how often does your thouchpad problem happen? Upon boot? waking from hibernate/suspend? |
| 22:28.41 | bododo | phoenix_andthor: well, I'm fine with it (very minimal needs) |
| 22:29.03 | bododo | No, no, often on hibernate/suspend but not all the time |
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| 22:29.38 | bododo | I thought there's a service I can restart to reinitialize it. I tried with hald but it didn't work |
| 22:29.56 | phoenix_andthor | if it happens mostly during the process of "waking up" then your on the right track with a wervice prob |
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| 22:30.02 | phoenix_andthor | service |
| 22:30.02 | bododo | also restarting X doesn't sole it |
| 22:30.15 | phoenix_andthor | sole? |
| 22:30.23 | bododo | solve :) |
| 22:30.38 | phoenix_andthor | interesting |
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| 22:31.38 | bododo | well, that's more frustrating than "interesting" for me ;-) |
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| 22:32.04 | phoenix_andthor | Hold on, I think I found something |
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| 22:32.34 | bododo | oh! really? /me crossing fingers |
| 22:33.04 | Sashi | how can one disable sudo su? |
| 22:33.20 | jelly-home | Sashi: man sudoers |
| 22:33.58 | jelly-home | you can impose almost arbitrary limits on which commands can be run with sudo |
| 22:34.43 | phoenix_andthor | I think you will have to manually edit Xorg.conf because the auto-detection doesn't work |
| 22:35.13 | bododo | phoenix_andthor: ah! what do I have to do? Enable hal or something? |
| 22:35.28 | bododo | that SHMConfig param or something? |
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| 22:39.16 | phoenix_andthor | Okay, first bring up your file manager and try to find /etc/X11/ |
| 22:40.00 | phoenix_andthor | there should be a file called xorg.conf |
| 22:40.41 | phoenix_andthor | open that and tell me what you see |
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| 22:43.20 | phoenix_andthor | you still there bododo? |
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| 22:44.22 | bododo | phoenix_andthor: I can do that :) I'm on screen, and vim is my girlfriend |
| 22:44.35 | phoenix_andthor | vim? |
| 22:45.03 | phoenix_andthor | are you running from text only mode? |
| 22:45.38 | phoenix_andthor | brb |
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| 22:46.56 | hosler | my new debian box has started to short circuit or something. when i press the power button the cpu fan and power supply fan turn on and then off. I took it out of the case and it boots %50 percent of the time. can anyone give me tips as to find the problem? |
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| 22:48.01 | phoenix_andthor | bododo, you still there? |
| 22:48.06 | phoenix_andthor | *back* |
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| 22:49.24 | phoenix_andthor | I guess she left or something |
| 22:49.56 | bododo | phoenix_andthor: sorry wifi problems |
| 22:50.00 | bododo | I'm still here |
| 22:50.03 | phoenix_andthor | hosler: so you have a bunch of spare parts lying around, specifically a new power supply? |
| 22:50.05 | phoenix_andthor | Okay |
| 22:50.22 | phoenix_andthor | hosler: or motherboard? |
| 22:50.25 | bododo | phoenix_andthor: yes mostely (abt txt mode, using ratpoison) |
| 22:50.34 | phoenix_andthor | ?? |
| 22:50.37 | phoenix_andthor | interesting |
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| 22:51.24 | bododo | so what should I edit in my xorg.conf? |
| 22:51.24 | hosler | phoenix_andthor, yeah |
| 22:51.51 | phoenix_andthor | bododo: you should see something pertaining to synaptics, which is the driver that all laptops supposedly use |
| 22:52.08 | bododo | yes |
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| 22:52.23 | phoenix_andthor | Load "synaptics"? |
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| 22:53.01 | bododo | phoenix_andthor: "Driver" |
| 22:53.43 | phoenix_andthor | It should saying something about synaptic in the Module section |
| 22:53.51 | bododo | I mean, I have the Driver set to synaptics for that input device |
| 22:54.21 | phoenix_andthor | yes but it must also be in the Module section for the driver to load |
| 22:54.30 | bododo | ah wait, you mean, I should add load synaptics in the module section? |
| 22:54.41 | bododo | ok, ok, thanks! Will try this :) |
| 22:55.11 | bododo | brb |
| 22:55.59 | phoenix_andthor | Load "synaptics" |
| 22:56.03 | phoenix_andthor | *sigh* |
| 22:56.37 | phoenix_andthor | I can only keep my eyes focused on one window at a time people |
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| 22:58.34 | phoenix_andthor | next |
| 22:58.36 | phoenix_andthor | shoot |
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| 22:58.57 | CcSsNET | http://blog.cr0.org/2009/08/linux-null-pointer-dereference-due-to.html |
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| 23:05.04 | eno_2001 | Looking for help with 64 Studio i386 v 2.1 (a Debian based distro). MD5sum is good on DVD image, DVD will boot, but the installer dies about 80 packages in during "Select and install software". |
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| 23:05.26 | eno_2001 | Dies at tetex-bin package. |
| 23:05.36 | hark | eno_2001: it's not supported here |
| 23:06.20 | hark | eno_2001: try #64studio |
| 23:06.24 | Interphase | can anyone recommend a banwidth monitor that will remember the total used after a reboot? |
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| 23:08.56 | CcSsNET | u might be able to do that with some clever scripting with iptraf if its not already a feature |
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| 23:13.46 | askvictor | I have a machine that uses RAID+LVM, and am trying a test restore into a virtual machine without RAID and LVM. When I boot into the VM, it hangs on 'Begin: waiting for root filesystem' (or something to that effect). Any ideas? I've changed fstab to reflect the new layout, but am unsure what else needs changing. |
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| 23:14.51 | Dimitree | Hello, i'm little confused which CD image should i get for my Intel E2200 processor ... Is it the IA64 or should i get AMD64 ?! |
| 23:16.38 | askvictor | Dimitree: AMD64 |
| 23:16.39 | valdyn | askvictor: the options given to your kernel do need changing, you can edit the line in your boot menu |
| 23:16.49 | valdyn | Dimitree: i386 is amd64 |
| 23:16.52 | valdyn | !why amd64 |
| 23:16.52 | dpkg | The Debian architecture that runs on 64-bit processors from AMD and Intel is called "amd64" because the architecture was first developed by AMD. AMD64 is variously known as x86-64, x64, IA-32e, EM64T, EMT64 and Intel 64 (most of which are the Intel marketing people changing their mind). See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64. |
| 23:17.14 | valdyn | Dimitree: i meant i386 *or* amd64 |
| 23:17.34 | Dimitree | thank you askvictor and valdyn |
| 23:17.35 | askvictor | valdyn: the kernel boots - it knows where to find the root fs and the initrd |
| 23:18.04 | Dimitree | hmm there is no live-cd for debian ? |
| 23:18.05 | valdyn | askvictor: being stuck "waiting for root fs" mean that it does not |
| 23:18.13 | askvictor | hmmm... |
| 23:18.32 | askvictor | will have a look further |
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| 23:20.37 | Dimitree | can i use the debian-502-amd64-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso as kind of a live cd replacement ? |
| 23:20.55 | Dimitree | or this image is addition to the rest of the cd sets |
| 23:20.56 | valdyn | Dimitree: not really |
| 23:21.20 | valdyn | Dimitree: its an installer with xfce+lxde |
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| 23:21.40 | valdyn | Dimitree: theres another with kde and another with gnome |
| 23:21.53 | Dimitree | valdyn, well i remamber that i tryed the net install and it simply didnt have an option to configure pppoe :/ |
| 23:22.04 | Dimitree | so without a live cd no debian for me :( |
| 23:22.16 | valdyn | Dimitree: use debian-502-amd64-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso |
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| 23:22.29 | valdyn | Dimitree: you dont need a live cd, pppoe is on the CD anyway |
| 23:22.30 | Dimitree | valdyn, which one is with gnome ? |
| 23:22.40 | valdyn | Dimitree: the default number one |
| 23:22.54 | valdyn | Dimitree: debian-502-amd64-CD-1.iso or somesuch |
| 23:23.12 | Dimitree | valdyn, will it ask for CD n2 up to 30+ after installing from N1 ? |
| 23:23.23 | valdyn | Dimitree: not exactly |
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| 23:24.02 | valdyn | Dimitree: the remaining cds contain optional software |
| 23:24.04 | Dimitree | valdyn, so the rest of the CDs are "extras" or something ? |
| 23:24.09 | Dimitree | jesus ... |
| 23:24.13 | valdyn | Dimitree: you are free to use either CD or internet |
| 23:24.40 | Dimitree | thanks valdyn |
| 23:24.40 | valdyn | Dimitree: yes, "extras" |
| 23:24.54 | valdyn | Dimitree: most people dont use more than the first cd or netinstall |
| 23:25.08 | valdyn | Dimitree: and get whatever else they need from the net |
| 23:25.38 | Dimitree | valdyn, i have up using the CDs because it seamed as in old times when you have Floppy 1, 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 9 you need all of them for the thing to install |
| 23:25.56 | Dimitree | so i kinda said no way am i writing 31 CDs lol |
| 23:26.05 | Dimitree | o well thank you very much :) |
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| 23:26.56 | Dimitree | i hope i can finally go away from ubuntu with this distro o-o |
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| 23:43.08 | ajavid | hello |
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| 23:46.25 | Hoxzer | ok, Lirc-modules-source is just awsome. debian/rules binary-modules decided to compile whole kernel. |
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| 23:54.07 | ajavid | lxde is nice |
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| 23:57.38 | TrueDD | Good night all |
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