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| 00:04.30 | jerojasro | hi all. have any of you used wikipediafs? I can't get authentication working |
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| 00:06.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | watch the traffic? It's all http anyway, isn't it? |
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| 00:06.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | probably uses a cookie |
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| 00:07.23 | jerojasro | CutMeOwnThroat: well, yes, that's an option, but I'd rather <insert-your-nick-here> than start fiddling with ethereal right now... |
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| 00:07.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | sniffit/wireshark should be easier to use |
| 00:08.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | did you check the bts? perhaps really is something wrong with the package |
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| 00:09.34 | jerojasro | good idea |
| 00:09.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmm, it's a cookie - uses dewikiUserName/dewikiUserID/dewiki_session |
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| 00:11.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=462480 |
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| 00:13.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | seems to work on general principles, though |
| 00:13.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | what version of debian are you using |
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| 00:13.44 | somehow | guyz how to connect to Rdp |
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| 00:14.14 | jerojasro | CutMeOwnThroat: testing |
| 00:14.43 | somehow | ? |
| 00:15.33 | abrotman | somehow: rdesktop |
| 00:16.16 | fr3nk | i'm building a new comp with q9550 i wan't dual screen at 1920x1080. what should i choose? ati, nvidia, or mobo integrated intel? |
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| 00:16.52 | fr3nk | i mean which will work with the least hassle? |
| 00:18.03 | jerojasro | fr3nk: nvidia has worked well for me in the past |
| 00:18.18 | fr3nk | jerojasro: in dual screen? (1920 wide) |
| 00:18.24 | jerojasro | (I've seen it working, at least) |
| 00:18.29 | fr3nk | hmm |
| 00:18.34 | jerojasro | fr3nk: dual screen? or xinerama? |
| 00:18.42 | fr3nk | i think it's dual screen |
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| 00:18.55 | fr3nk | my whole desktop is one desktop right now |
| 00:18.56 | loomsen_ | jerojasro: fr3nk it works, but you should be aware that the nvidia driver is a running binary not a module as supposed |
| 00:19.08 | fr3nk | i want it that way with my new config as well |
| 00:19.19 | fr3nk | loomsen_: thx! |
| 00:19.35 | jerojasro | loomsen_: oops, yep, that tiny detail |
| 00:19.39 | fr3nk | will a cheap, low power consumer nvidia work? |
| 00:19.58 | fr3nk | i dont want serious 3d and all that stuff |
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| 00:20.04 | fr3nk | just youtube @ 1920 :) |
| 00:20.07 | jerojasro | fr3nk: in my experience, as long as the card ain't too old, you should be fine |
| 00:20.15 | fr3nk | but dual screen is a must |
| 00:20.18 | jerojasro | well, and not too new, either... |
| 00:20.27 | Dimitree | Any way to install debian from 1gb USB ? I tryed with unetbootin and the debian-502-amd64-CD-1.iso image, but during the steps it fails to "read from the CDROM" .... and even when asked to insert other media it fails again to find what's needed with "Failed to read from the " device or something |
| 00:20.34 | fr3nk | jerojasro: ty i will look for a cheap NEW nvidia |
| 00:20.43 | fr3nk | oh not too new... |
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| 00:20.53 | abrotman | Dimitree: did you read the install guide ? |
| 00:20.54 | fr3nk | hm hm |
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| 00:21.09 | jerojasro | with nvidia, you want 75% new |
| 00:21.12 | loomsen_ | fr3nk: you shouldn't get anything below the 6 series |
| 00:21.18 | Dimitree | abrotman, i tryed and now i'm more confued then before ... |
| 00:21.25 | Dimitree | *confused |
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| 00:21.34 | jerojasro | check their website to see which cards are supported by the driver |
| 00:21.47 | loomsen_ | fr3nk: recently chatted to a guy who shot a card on ebay for 20 bucks or so |
| 00:22.00 | loomsen_ | fr3nk: 6000+ |
| 00:22.05 | fr3nk | http://mark.zoomcities.com/images/gfx/GFXpowerchartbyidle.png |
| 00:22.22 | fr3nk | loomsen_, jerojasro could u recommend one from the list? |
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| 00:22.26 | fr3nk | lower the better:) |
| 00:23.14 | loomsen_ | fr3nk: phew, too many :D 6000+ |
| 00:23.17 | jerojasro | holy cow |
| 00:23.26 | loomsen_ | fr3nk: is what counts for nvidia |
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| 00:23.38 | jerojasro | no, I can't. haven't bought any since some years ago |
| 00:23.42 | Dimitree | "Many Debian boxes need their floppy and/or CD-ROM drives only for setting up the system and for rescue purposes. If you operate some servers, you will probably already have thought about omitting those drives and using an USB memory stick for installing and (when necessary) for recovering the system. This is also useful for small systems which have no room for unnecessary drives." |
| 00:23.43 | fr3nk | ok, so a 6000 |
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| 00:23.53 | fr3nk | so a 6000+ is working with dual |
| 00:23.54 | Dimitree | so how is this suposed to help me with my problem :) |
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| 00:24.02 | jerojasro | well, about intel..., xinerama works sort-of-fine |
| 00:24.13 | loomsen_ | fr3nk: all other cards will work as well |
| 00:25.12 | fr3nk | jerojasro: i've read that intel integrated supports dual |
| 00:25.18 | loomsen_ | 6000+ cause anything below isn't supported by the newest drivers (- nvidia drops a lot of them, tho, still, I don't like them for being binaries ) |
| 00:25.20 | fr3nk | but dont know if it allows 1920 wide dual.. |
| 00:25.36 | fr3nk | maybe the screen is limited to 2560 or so total |
| 00:26.13 | fr3nk | hm me neither |
| 00:26.21 | loomsen_ | fr3nk: you maybe want to read some wikis or so on the different options (separate screens, twinview, clone output= |
| 00:26.34 | fr3nk | loomsen_: is it possible that they will drop support for my card within a few years? wtf.. |
| 00:27.00 | loomsen_ | fr3nk: not if you choose a 6K+ :) |
| 00:27.02 | fr3nk | maybe the open radeon driver is a better option then |
| 00:27.13 | ajavid | huh |
| 00:27.16 | loomsen_ | fr3nk: a good friend of mine has a R500 |
| 00:27.25 | loomsen_ | fr3nk: guess what, support dropped |
| 00:27.47 | fr3nk | is an r500 an old one? (sry i'm totally out of the recent vidcards) |
| 00:28.07 | loomsen_ | r500 is ATi |
| 00:28.15 | fr3nk | i have a radeon 9200 now, and it works in 1680 dual. |
| 00:28.19 | fr3nk | loomsen_: oops |
| 00:28.41 | fr3nk | but it's agp and my new mobo cant handle it:( |
| 00:28.51 | fr3nk | i would stick with this without any hassle:/ |
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| 00:29.13 | Dimitree | abrotman, will it simply work if i burn the debian-live-501-amd64-gnome-desktop.img instead of the the debian-502-amd64-CD-1.iso with unetbootin ? :/ |
| 00:29.37 | loomsen_ | Dimitree: what are your intentions |
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| 00:30.29 | loomsen_ | Dimitree: i dont like unetbootin 2 much, doesn't work really well (guess because of the different fs used for live cds and installer cds) |
| 00:30.34 | Dimitree | loomsen_, i need to install Debian from my USB stick and i'm a windows loser who used ubuntu for a short time, i use unetbootin to make image of ubuntu and install it |
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| 00:31.35 | loomsen_ | Dimitree: aight, i see, so you already have an ubuntu installation |
| 00:31.36 | Dimitree | loomsen_, i tryed using the debian-502-amd64-CD-1.iso but this image failed with "can't read from the Cdrom" and so on |
| 00:31.38 | Dimitree | :/ |
| 00:32.02 | Dimitree | loomsen_, nope right now i'm on Fedora ... |
| 00:32.22 | loomsen_ | aight, me too :) however, I always use netinstall images |
| 00:32.43 | Dimitree | loomsen_, netinstall doesnt have the option to configure pppoe :( |
| 00:33.05 | loomsen_ | true |
| 00:33.10 | abrotman | Dimitree: i've never used unetbootin |
| 00:33.12 | abrotman | !usb install |
| 00:33.12 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. (Older, outdated article at http://d-i.pascal.at/) |
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| 00:35.03 | Dimitree | abrotman, if i use the debian-live-501-amd64-gnome-desktop.img will debian update to 5.0.2 after installation ? |
| 00:35.06 | ajavid | r580 radeon is the highest supported by radeon/3D. For 2D only, 6xx/7xx/ chipsets are fine, radeon/radeonhd will support them. As for fglrx, it works on all, except legacy, look in the docs, I believe they stopped support for a lot more cards in the latest version, however the one in stable works just fine |
| 00:35.18 | ajavid | Dimitree, yes |
| 00:35.36 | ajavid | Dimitree, aptitude full-upgrade will take care of it after you finish installing (if it already doesn't update) |
| 00:35.48 | ajavid | I believe the installer should update the pcakages before it even restarts the system iirc |
| 00:37.40 | fr3nk | ajavid: what about a radeon hd4350? (with 5watts idle wow) |
| 00:37.46 | isofunk | I'll think about it |
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| 00:39.09 | loomsen_ | fr3nk: I'd probably have a deeper look into the vendors and cards which are fully supported (KMS, DRM for example) and open source |
| 00:39.20 | loomsen_ | fr3nk: intel is making some nice progress |
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| 00:41.12 | fr3nk | loomsen_: yeah an integrated intel would be fine if it worked |
| 00:41.19 | zhxk` | hello |
| 00:41.22 | fr3nk | loomsen_: yep, right now i'm googling them |
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| 00:42.05 | fr3nk | loomsen_: but i've asked anyway.. maybe somebody is using a dual cheap ass recent card with high res |
| 00:42.18 | ajavid | fr3nk, I do not know off the top of my head the chipsets each series features |
| 00:42.20 | fr3nk | and he can recommend one |
| 00:42.37 | fr3nk | ajavid: ofkoz, i see, thx |
| 00:42.40 | ajavid | I use 1920 |
| 00:42.52 | ajavid | on my 24" dual monitors |
| 00:43.01 | ajavid | 1920 each, I use x1900xt |
| 00:43.13 | ajavid | r580chipset, and my enter key is going crazy again.... fuck. |
| 00:43.22 | ajavid | whooo... goosefraba... |
| 00:43.36 | loomsen_ | fr3nk: well, most cards should be able to do what you want... just depends on how much effort you're willing to invest |
| 00:43.40 | fr3nk | ajavid: ty these are some nice infos |
| 00:43.57 | fr3nk | is a r580 a lowend or a high idle powered one? |
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| 00:44.26 | loomsen_ | fr3nk: i'm using separate screens (simply because my TV and my laptop arent of the same size nor max resolution) |
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| 00:45.44 | racecar56 | how do i install nvidia drivers with 32-bit compatibility files? |
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| 00:47.46 | loomsen_ | racecar56: the readme tells you shouldnt unless you encounter serious problems |
| 00:47.55 | loomsen_ | racecar56: so why would you? |
| 00:48.26 | loomsen_ | racecar56: (if you still want it bad, you have to get a pk2.run binary) |
| 00:48.48 | loomsen_ | +g |
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| 00:52.23 | fr3nk | wtf... the 6xxx cards are made only with agp socket? |
| 00:52.28 | ajavid | 1900xt is fully supported in debian sid |
| 00:52.38 | ajavid | unfortunately not in stable (without fglrx) by radeon |
| 00:53.02 | ajavid | that one is mid range (2 years ago it was top of the line), I bought one for 250USD |
| 00:53.40 | ajavid | go to gpureview. something, .com or .org or something I dunno |
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| 00:54.11 | ajavid | I used to own nvida 7600gs, I hated it |
| 00:54.19 | ranix | I have a 7600gt I hate |
| 00:54.47 | ajavid | well, I took my gs to gt, overclocked from 400mhz core to 533, and memory from 800 to 1200mhz |
| 00:54.51 | ajavid | :D |
| 00:54.57 | ranix | but only because the board manufacturer has the wrong default clock so I have to down it by 30mhz to stop it from throwing faults all over the f'n place |
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| 00:55.01 | ajavid | thats actualy faster than 7600gtx (on stock cooling)( |
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| 00:55.13 | racecar56 | i just installed nvidia drivers with m-a and kdm won't start >:( |
| 00:55.36 | racecar56 | i love my 8600gt |
| 00:55.37 | ajavid | I'd help you, but I have to study!! |
| 00:55.41 | ranix | this one is clocked at 580mhz it needs to be 550 |
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| 00:55.52 | ajavid | check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 00:55.59 | ranix | but the mfg default is 580 so it dies ;( |
| 00:56.01 | ajavid | find out why X isn't starting (its not kdm, its X) |
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| 00:57.50 | ajavid | eh.. I'll study later, its music/debian time. |
| 00:57.53 | Bravewolf | hello |
| 00:57.58 | ajavid | hi |
| 00:58.00 | fr3nk | lol |
| 00:58.10 | Bravewolf | how can I config live helper to create an italian xfce livecd? |
| 00:58.19 | ajavid | has no experience with debian live |
| 00:58.29 | ajavid | I probably should mess with it just to mess with it |
| 00:58.38 | racecar56 | debian live? live cd? :D |
| 00:58.42 | ajavid | yup |
| 00:58.50 | ajavid | that or remaster my own etc. |
| 00:58.57 | racecar56 | yaaay |
| 00:59.05 | Dimitree | ok ... i ended up using "dd debian.img /dev/sdb" the Usb booted and Debian loaded, unfortunately there was no icon with "Install Debian" also the network manager didnt have DSL configuration options, and pppoeconf doesn't exist as a command in terminal ... |
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| 01:00.00 | joaop | hi, where can i begin to setup my wireless? the modulo is in use |
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| 01:00.28 | racecar56 | "Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"." looks like m-a still isn't working right |
| 01:00.28 | ajavid | joaop, you're installed the firmeware needed by your wifi chipset? |
| 01:00.32 | racecar56 | peeks at xorg log |
| 01:00.52 | Bravewolf | racecar56: yes. I need to test an updated sid on a laptop |
| 01:00.58 | ajavid | racecar56, thats fine, look towards the end of the log to see why it failed |
| 01:01.03 | ajavid | racecar56, or grep it for WW/EE |
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| 01:01.17 | joaop | ajavid, yes, it was installed in the instalation |
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| 01:01.30 | racecar56 | failed to load module "glx" |
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| 01:01.39 | ajavid | racecar56, install nvidia-glx ? |
| 01:01.40 | ajavid | perhaps |
| 01:01.53 | racecar56 | aha! looks like i found it |
| 01:02.17 | ajavid | joaop, install wireless-tools and use iwconfig to setup your wifi card |
| 01:02.27 | ajavid | joaop, or manually configure it in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 01:02.36 | ajavid | !wireless |
| 01:02.36 | dpkg | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>, <madwifi>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <b43>, <wl>; Intel: <ipw2100>, <ipw2200>, <ipw3945>, <iwlagn>; Intersil: <prism>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <rtl-wifi>; TI: <acx100>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also: <wlan howto>, <wpa>, <killswitch>, <wmaster0>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 01:02.50 | ajavid | joaop, look on the wiki page |
| 01:02.52 | racecar56 | Version mismatch detected between the NVIDIA libglx.so and libGLcore.so shared libraries (libglx.so version: 185.18.14; libGLcore.so version: ) |
| 01:03.04 | racecar56 | looks like libGLcore.so is at version nothing O_o |
| 01:03.19 | ajavid | is not an nvidia guy |
| 01:03.24 | Dimitree | !pppoe |
| 01:03.24 | dpkg | [pppoe] Point-to-Point Protocol over Ethernet, a network protocol for encapsulating <PPP> frames in Ethernet frames, frequently used in DSL connections. There are kernel-space and user-space PPPoE drivers available for Debian. To install Debian using a PPPoE connection, ask me about <pppoe install>. To enable on established systems, "aptitude install pppoeconf && pppoeconf". See also Debian bug #377987. http://wiki.debian.org/PPPoE |
| 01:03.49 | Dimitree | !pppoe install |
| 01:03.49 | dpkg | To install Debian via PPPoE, append 'modules=ppp-udeb' to the Debian Installer boot line (e.g. installgui modules=ppp-udeb). This method is not available for <netboot>, <boot floppies> or the <businesscard> image. See also <pppoe>, <install guide>. |
| 01:03.52 | racecar56 | i have a pny geforce 8600gt on this comp |
| 01:03.54 | ajavid | Dimitree, /msg dpkg |
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| 01:04.00 | ajavid | !tell Dimitree -about selftell |
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| 01:04.07 | loomsen_ | racecar56: i've got the same |
| 01:04.09 | Dimitree | ok sorry |
| 01:04.12 | ajavid | np |
| 01:04.26 | subcritical | http://acp.atari.org/ |
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| 01:04.38 | subcritical | is debian ready? |
| 01:04.43 | ajavid | subcritical, ...? |
| 01:04.43 | loomsen_ | racecar56: so what did you do? did you install binary pkges from the repos or compile it yourself? |
| 01:04.54 | racecar56 | loomsen_: module assistant |
| 01:05.03 | racecar56 | loomsen_: i did /msg dpkg nvidia m-a |
| 01:05.09 | subcritical | i think that atarian hardware is obscure |
| 01:05.17 | subcritical | and very very rare |
| 01:05.29 | subcritical | strange and crazy |
| 01:05.31 | ajavid | subcritical, oh.. that. I think so... what process arch is it using? |
| 01:05.31 | loomsen_ | racecar56: o.O ok, I never did that actually |
| 01:05.58 | ajavid | subcritical, people run debian on all sorts of gaming consoles (well.. a lot of modern popular mainstream ones) |
| 01:05.59 | racecar56 | loomsen_: how'd you get it working, nvidia-installer or what? |
| 01:06.14 | joaop | ajavid, thanks, im reading |
| 01:06.21 | loomsen_ | racecar56: no, I'm always using the drivers from the nvnews forum |
| 01:06.23 | ajavid | yup |
| 01:06.44 | loomsen_ | racecar56: if it doesn't bleed, it's not cutting edge :D |
| 01:06.56 | ajavid | bleeding on the edge man! |
| 01:07.10 | racecar56 | yea, it's debian sid i'm working with |
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| 01:07.28 | loomsen_ | racecar56: but it's actually pretty simple, just drop yourself to a shell |
| 01:07.36 | ajavid | !sid faq |
| 01:07.36 | dpkg | http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html or http://weda.mine.nu/sidfaq.html (mirror); it doesn't hurt if you read the FAQ, even if you are using testing/squeeze... http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/08/msg00041.html |
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| 01:07.54 | loomsen_ | racecar56: run telinit <whichever debian uses, multiuser without X> |
| 01:08.04 | loomsen_ | racecar56: telinit 3 |
| 01:08.06 | ajavid | loomsen_, debian doesn't have that |
| 01:08.09 | ajavid | !runlevels |
| 01:08.10 | dpkg | 0 is halt, 1 is single user, 2, 3, 4, 5 are multiuser, 6 is reboot. By default 2, 3, 4 and 5 are identical (no graphic/non-graphic runlevels), but you can configure this if you wish. Read /usr/share/doc/sysvinit/*; read /etc/init.d/README; man update-rc.d; if that doesn't make sense, consider installing <rcconf> instead. http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/212, or ask me about <startup>, or for a real twist, see <file-rc>. |
| 01:08.10 | loomsen_ | racecar56: it is for fedora |
| 01:08.24 | abrotman | this isn't fedora ? |
| 01:08.44 | racecar56 | loomsen_: i haven't hardly used any RPM distros befre |
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| 01:08.55 | racecar56 | loomsen_: i'm used to debian, i learned from ubuntu |
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| 01:09.03 | racecar56 | loomsen_: i am using debian these days |
| 01:09.15 | loomsen_ | racecar56: I've used deb a lot, but rpm is clearly superior |
| 01:09.17 | ajavid | what isn't fedora? |
| 01:09.22 | racecar56 | debian |
| 01:09.34 | ajavid | duh |
| 01:09.42 | ajavid | heh,..what are you on about |
| 01:10.00 | ajavid | loomsen_, keep it on topic please |
| 01:10.09 | pl4yer0ne | lol rpm superior |
| 01:10.14 | ajavid | stop |
| 01:10.15 | racecar56 | is annoyed about debian's odd installer thinking my main hdd is /dev/sdf |
| 01:10.24 | racecar56 | i installed from usb |
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| 01:10.57 | racecar56 | loomsen_: i do see that rpm's are common but i like debian the best |
| 01:11.36 | ajavid | like I say |
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| 01:11.50 | ajavid | Debian Wins! Flawless Victory! Ubuntu... Fatality! |
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| 01:12.04 | racecar56 | i like debian *much* better than ubuntu |
| 01:12.10 | racecar56 | brb |
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| 01:14.24 | loomsen_ | racecar56: how come? ... if you're as addicted to cutting yourself to see how much it bleeds as i am take a look into sidux... |
| 01:14.33 | gravity | Or just run sid |
| 01:15.07 | gravity | If you're bleeding on sidux, then sidux just sucks. I've been running straight sid for close to 10 years with little bleeding, especially as of late |
| 01:15.42 | ajavid | 7.. actually 8 years for myself here |
| 01:15.47 | ajavid | its wicked (sid) |
| 01:16.13 | loomsen_ | gravity: i'm out of debian for a while now, but still I think there's barely a difference |
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| 01:16.25 | ajavid | no man |
| 01:16.41 | ajavid | the difference is that it isn't debian. Regardless of what little they do to it |
| 01:16.44 | ajavid | its still not debian |
| 01:16.52 | ajavid | and thats my beef. |
| 01:17.06 | abrotman | i dislike your enter key ... |
| 01:17.11 | ajavid | I dislike it myself |
| 01:17.42 | gravity | Speaking of which, I need to figure out why my backspace key fails on alioth when I ssh in via emacs' ansi-term |
| 01:17.55 | gravity | doubts anyone else here has run in to that one though |
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| 01:18.22 | ajavid | a bit mundane |
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| 01:18.54 | gravity | heh |
| 01:20.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | nice runlevel factoid |
| 01:20.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually, why are the runlevels identical? |
| 01:20.59 | ajavid | you can change if you'd like |
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| 01:21.19 | loomsen_ | CutMeOwnThroat: good question, why did the initial config get changed at all? |
| 01:21.35 | loomsen_ | ajavid: any reasonable explanation? |
| 01:21.41 | ajavid | Under Debian the runlevel isn't used to handle the graphical login functionality |
| 01:21.41 | gravity | CutMeOwnThroat: To let the admin use them however they want |
| 01:21.47 | gravity | Back in the day, people actually would do that |
| 01:21.51 | ajavid | only admins who need to modify it can do it |
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| 01:22.00 | ajavid | its a old redhat thing... iirc |
| 01:22.21 | gravity | RH probably still uses 2 for non-X and 5 for X, but I haven't checked |
| 01:22.27 | abrotman | it's older than RH |
| 01:22.29 | gravity | Next time I get drunk with RH's X guy, I'll ask him |
| 01:22.32 | ajavid | Debian maintainers decided that they |
| 01:22.37 | martian67 | slackware uses it |
| 01:22.43 | ajavid | fucking enter |
| 01:22.45 | martian67 | and thats significantly older than redhat |
| 01:22.56 | ajavid | Debian maintainers decided that they would let the system administrator have full reign over the runlevels |
| 01:22.58 | loomsen_ | fedora uses 3 for multiuser with nw, 5 for X |
| 01:23.07 | ajavid | and not apply any meaning to them (for levels 2-5, obviously) |
| 01:23.18 | gravity | wishes he had a use for all those runlevels |
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| 01:23.26 | martian67 | i doubt many people bother with runlevels anymore |
| 01:23.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, I thought it was 2 and 3 in RH? having a non-X runlevel seems a kind of sensible choice - having one more idendical doesn't seem like an advantage to me |
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| 01:25.12 | ajavid | I think the policy manual chapter 8-9 or something has more informaion regrding init scripts changing run levels in packages |
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| 01:25.27 | ajavid | that is for packages |
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| 01:26.31 | loomsen_ | martian67: I'm making pretty extensive use of rl's |
| 01:26.42 | loomsen_ | martian67: I do bother |
| 01:26.47 | ajavid | yup, 9 |
| 01:26.51 | martian67 | loomsen_, one of few i expect :) |
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| 01:27.12 | racecar56 | back |
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| 01:27.53 | loomsen_ | :) |
| 01:27.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah, I don't remember ever needing multiple runlevels.... |
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| 01:28.31 | gravity | loomsen_: What do you do with them? |
| 01:28.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | gravity, rebooting for fun and profit? |
| 01:28.51 | ajavid | lol |
| 01:28.52 | gravity | hehe |
| 01:28.53 | ajavid | crackheads |
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| 01:28.58 | eitan | hello all. I am having trouble getting cups to recognize the high resolution setting on my hp laserjet 2200. Can someone help with this? |
| 01:29.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah, got me, that was "smashing the stack for fun and profit" |
| 01:29.01 | ajavid | heh |
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| 01:30.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | by a guy called aleph... back in the times when buffer overflow exploits where considered novel |
| 01:30.38 | loomsen_ | gravity: any system maintainances, altering drivers, handling my other distros in chroots... i like it |
| 01:30.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | and exciting |
| 01:30.54 | eitan | anyone? |
| 01:31.01 | gravity | Interesting |
| 01:31.12 | flourish | hi |
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| 01:31.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | eitan, get a ppd file specific to your printer and feed it to cups? |
| 01:32.28 | ajavid | hehehehe |
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| 01:33.09 | eitan | cutmeownthroat: ok... let me see about that. |
| 01:33.41 | loomsen_ | gravity: i really enjoy kms too, if you're limited to a laptop screen this improves things a lot. tho i miss tabs or some way to split a shell, which would increase productivity a lot |
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| 01:34.27 | gravity | wonders if that's a hint |
| 01:35.06 | gravity | loomsen_: Actually, do you mean kernel-modesetting? Or something else? |
| 01:35.07 | beardy | loomsen_: Use screen. |
| 01:35.33 | loomsen_ | kernel mode settings yes |
| 01:35.52 | gravity | You use this without X then? |
| 01:36.06 | gravity | wonders again if this is a hint to get his ass in gear |
| 01:36.10 | loomsen_ | yes |
| 01:36.19 | gravity | Ah. Yeah, as beardy says, screen is your bff |
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| 01:36.40 | beardy | Nowadays there's even vertical split, if you're into that. |
| 01:36.49 | loomsen_ | gravity: beardy somehow i never started using it... |
| 01:37.00 | gravity | Emacs also will work |
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| 01:37.04 | abrotman | did gravity just use .. 'bff' ? |
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| 01:37.11 | loomsen_ | lol |
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| 01:38.18 | racecar56 | is annoyed with m-a as it installs broken nvidia drivers that don't even provide glx, and yes nvidia-glx is installed |
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| 01:40.13 | careta | is there a way to "upgrade" an installation from i386 to amd64? |
| 01:40.31 | abrotman | reinstall |
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| 01:40.58 | racecar56 | careta: make sure your processor is 64bit |
| 01:41.34 | careta | can I make a list of installed packages and feed it to aptitude in amd64? |
| 01:42.15 | abrotman | !aptitude clone |
| 01:42.15 | dpkg | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>. <debian clone> |
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| 01:42.52 | racecar56 | how do i get nvidia drivers installed with 32bit compatibility |
| 01:42.53 | mythomaniac | i love aptitude clone! |
| 01:43.01 | mythomaniac | i love aptitude! |
| 01:43.20 | ajavid | the greatest thing since sliced bread |
| 01:43.25 | ajavid | :) |
| 01:43.27 | racecar56 | !confetti aptitude |
| 01:43.27 | dpkg | throws loads and loads of confetti all over aptitude and shouts "Hooray!". |
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| 01:43.35 | mythomaniac | agreed ajavid |
| 01:43.50 | ajavid | racecar56, there are 32bit nvidia packages |
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| 01:44.00 | ajavid | racecar56, apt-cache search ia32|grep nv |
| 01:44.02 | ajavid | something |
| 01:44.03 | racecar56 | ajavid: k |
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| 01:44.44 | Texou | racecar56: proprietary or free? |
| 01:44.45 | KidneyBeans | so erm LOL |
| 01:44.55 | KidneyBeans | would anyone actually want a canonical developer to work on debian? |
| 01:44.58 | racecar56 | Texou: nonfree |
| 01:44.59 | KidneyBeans | and lets think now |
| 01:45.01 | KidneyBeans | LOL |
| 01:45.07 | careta | and if one of these packages is not present in amd64 won't that break the cloning? |
| 01:45.10 | KidneyBeans | where is abrotman? i want to find out where this is ontopic |
| 01:45.17 | ajavid | oh god |
| 01:45.24 | ajavid | dude... c'mon man. be wiser. |
| 01:45.42 | gravity | KidneyBeans: We have tons of Canonical developers working on Debian |
| 01:45.50 | KidneyBeans | lol ok ;p |
| 01:45.52 | racecar56 | :D |
| 01:45.59 | ajavid | that isn't the point, don't instigate shit |
| 01:46.04 | gravity | Also true |
| 01:46.15 | Texou | racecar56: have you enabled nonfree repositories in sources.list? |
| 01:46.22 | racecar56 | Texou: yes |
| 01:46.37 | Texou | racecar56: so install nvidia-glx |
| 01:46.44 | KidneyBeans | i just find it to be strange; if canonical find debian to be so in-need, then why do they even use it as a basis? |
| 01:46.50 | racecar56 | Texou: already installed |
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| 01:46.58 | ajavid | KidneyBeans, why are ou asking us? |
| 01:47.07 | KidneyBeans | ajavid i dont know where else to go |
| 01:47.10 | KidneyBeans | where is this sorta stuff ontopic? |
| 01:47.10 | ajavid | KidneyBeans, and this isn't ontopic here |
| 01:47.17 | ajavid | KidneyBeans, #debian-offtopic |
| 01:47.20 | abrotman | KidneyBeans: #debian-offtopic .. this is a support channel |
| 01:47.21 | Texou | racecar56: and what do you want so? they're nonfree drivers |
| 01:47.22 | KidneyBeans | i know but im trying to find out |
| 01:47.25 | KidneyBeans | nah nobody talks in there |
| 01:47.32 | ajavid | try #debian-chat |
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| 01:47.44 | racecar56 | Texou: i need them because i need full 3D support |
| 01:47.49 | gravity | tries out gconf-cleaner |
| 01:47.58 | KidneyBeans | nah those channels r all pretty dead |
| 01:47.59 | KidneyBeans | anyway |
| 01:48.04 | KidneyBeans | i think ill be a bit supportive |
| 01:48.11 | ajavid | we party hardy in -chat |
| 01:48.15 | ajavid | every day :) |
| 01:48.15 | KidneyBeans | anyone of you like 1000 people need support? |
| 01:48.20 | Texou | racecar56: are you sure it's not a different issue than driver? |
| 01:48.31 | ajavid | racecar56, Texou, check logs |
| 01:48.31 | KidneyBeans | (i think this is idlerpg in disguise_ |
| 01:48.43 | racecar56 | Texou: i don't think so, i can look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 01:48.49 | ajavid | racecar56, you should |
| 01:48.49 | gravity | KidneyBeans: If you want to solve my bizarre esoteric backspace key via emacs' ansi-term to alioth, that'd be nice :-) |
| 01:49.00 | racecar56 | peeks at Xorg.0.log |
| 01:49.01 | ajavid | esoteric |
| 01:49.03 | ajavid | heh, nice |
| 01:49.03 | abrotman | he might need your alioth acount for that |
| 01:49.03 | Texou | right |
| 01:49.08 | KidneyBeans | gravity is it making a ^H ? |
| 01:49.15 | gravity | Or, you know, fix some X bugs. That'd be support too. |
| 01:49.44 | gravity | KidneyBeans: No, surprisingly. It seems to be a tab instead, or something similar. It's weird. |
| 01:49.49 | abrotman | or fix any bugs .. |
| 01:49.54 | KidneyBeans | hmmmhmmmhmmm |
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| 01:50.06 | ajavid | oftc, #debian-bugs |
| 01:50.11 | KidneyBeans | what keyboard you using? |
| 01:50.13 | ajavid | have at it, it would help |
| 01:50.32 | gravity | KidneyBeans: Just a normal pc106 keyboard from dell |
| 01:50.35 | KidneyBeans | yeah i aint gunna solve bugs but gimme some tough support queries, i wont mind the experience; i found that helping others really teaches you stuff |
| 01:50.39 | gravity | KidneyBeans: Mind you, this all works fine locally. |
| 01:50.42 | Phil4 | anyone seen this and have any idea when apt will contain a patched kernel? http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/08/13/2022212/Local-Privilege-Escalation-On-All-Linux-Kernels?from=rss |
| 01:50.51 | racecar56 | Texou ajavid: it seems that there is this version mismatch between the NVIDIA libglx.so and libGLcore.so, nvidia libglx.so is at version 185.18.14 and libGLcore.so dosen't have a version |
| 01:50.54 | KidneyBeans | gravity so when you log in through ssh or the like you get that error? |
| 01:50.55 | abrotman | Phil4: http://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_294 |
| 01:51.03 | Phil4 | looking, cheers |
| 01:51.20 | ajavid | again, unfortunately i don't know much nvidia stuffs |
| 01:51.21 | Texou | hmm |
| 01:51.23 | gravity | KidneyBeans: No error message. Yeah, I log in via ssh in the terminal which is actually emacs 23's ansi-term |
| 01:51.25 | Texou | I dont know |
| 01:52.00 | Phil4 | thanks, abrotman :) |
| 01:52.03 | KidneyBeans | its because the ansi/ascii/whatever sequence of data is being interperreted incorrectly |
| 01:52.17 | gravity | Well, eyah |
| 01:52.39 | KidneyBeans | you wont get error messages because it doesnt know that its doing that |
| 01:52.47 | KidneyBeans | can you get the hex for that stuff? |
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| 01:52.58 | KidneyBeans | have you tried pressing other buttons to see if the same thing happens? |
| 01:53.21 | racecar56 | Texou ajavid: im reinstalling the nvidia driver now, it said i should do so in Xorg.0.log |
| 01:53.33 | ajavid | I dunno nothin' man |
| 01:53.37 | ajavid | I know nussin' |
| 01:53.55 | Phil4 | abrotman, that doesn't completely prevent the exploits does it, abrotman? |
| 01:53.59 | gravity | KidneyBeans: Any idea how to get the hex value when I'm logged in via ssh? |
| 01:54.18 | KidneyBeans | open a text file, press the button, save it |
| 01:54.22 | KidneyBeans | open that file in a hex editor |
| 01:54.23 | KidneyBeans | lol |
| 01:54.25 | Texou | racecar56: are you on lennyr2? |
| 01:54.26 | Phil4 | -double nick |
| 01:54.30 | racecar56 | Texou: sid |
| 01:54.33 | KidneyBeans | just see if it matches up with the hex of tab or backspace |
| 01:54.33 | abrotman | Phil4: supposedly those modules are the ones that contain code that would be affected |
| 01:54.38 | KidneyBeans | if it does- the problem is emacs |
| 01:54.49 | KidneyBeans | if it matches up with tab something is really odd |
| 01:54.58 | racecar56 | Texou ajavid: >_< reinstalling didn't fix it |
| 01:54.59 | gravity | KidneyBeans: How do I get the hex value? |
| 01:55.00 | Phil4 | abrotman, looking at the advisories, it can be done with datagram sockets also |
| 01:55.01 | Texou | racecar56: hmm. no I dont know |
| 01:55.07 | Phil4 | but one would assume you can't remove the IP modules |
| 01:55.08 | Phil4 | lol |
| 01:55.14 | gravity | Ah, I see |
| 01:55.29 | racecar56 | Texou: you know what gfx card i use right? |
| 01:55.56 | gravity | Interesting, vim via ssh works, but zsh fails |
| 01:55.58 | Texou | no I'm not an expert about video cards |
| 01:56.03 | Texou | I dont use 3D |
| 01:56.06 | gravity | Oh and bash works. How odd. |
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| 01:56.22 | racecar56 | Texou: you know what gfx card i use right? |
| 01:56.27 | racecar56 | Texou: shoot |
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| 01:56.45 | KidneyBeans | gravity maybe your ssh is a buggy version or summing? |
| 01:56.51 | racecar56 | Texou: sorry i was going to send something else but i hit up >_< stupid laptop keyboard |
| 01:57.09 | Texou | :) |
| 01:57.17 | racecar56 | Texou: (and i'm chatting on another comp than the one that has the nvidia problem) |
| 01:57.19 | gravity | KidneyBeans: No, it looks like my remote zsh is being weird. Plus, the term that ansi-term mode uses seems to be bizarre |
| 01:57.29 | gravity | Bash works fine |
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| 01:58.05 | racecar56 | am i going to have to experiment with nvidia-installer? |
| 01:58.11 | Phil4 | packages site down for anyone else? |
| 01:58.46 | racecar56 | Phil4: not me |
| 01:58.55 | nalioth | Phil4: packages? |
| 01:58.57 | racecar56 | Phil4: not to mention my internet fails O_. |
| 01:59.01 | nalioth | Phil4: like united parcel service? |
| 01:59.09 | racecar56 | no, packages.debian.org |
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| 01:59.33 | nalioth | racecar56: are you sure? he might be talking about amazon.com's order fulfillment database |
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| 01:59.57 | racecar56 | nalioth: i think he's talking about packages.debian.org |
| 01:59.57 | KidneyBeans | gravity its like you have one of those problems that only pop up every 1000 installations or so and you will never know why it happened |
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| 02:00.09 | KidneyBeans | but you will be able to solve it, but it will probably be incredibly complex |
| 02:00.14 | gravity | KidneyBeans: Yeah, I figured. I can bug the zsh maintainer about it. |
| 02:00.29 | gravity | KidneyBeans: Thank you though |
| 02:00.29 | nalioth | racecar56: you are probably right :) |
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| 02:05.53 | binarystar | does anyone know " A server : redirect server to b , B server : a lot domains , A, B server diffrence IP class. i want each mrtg per domains" help me |
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| 02:06.23 | abrotman | not again ... |
| 02:06.39 | gravity | Is this homework or something? |
| 02:06.47 | loomsen_ | obv |
| 02:06.49 | abrotman | he's been asking for two weeks ? |
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| 02:07.33 | ajavid | its not obvious |
| 02:07.45 | ajavid | binarystar, is this homework? ask a more specific question as to what you are doing. |
| 02:07.51 | ajavid | and/or trying to do |
| 02:08.27 | binarystar | :'( |
| 02:08.28 | ajavid | bad grammar is hard to decipher as it is... |
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| 02:09.34 | binarystar | gravity, not homework |
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| 02:12.04 | binarystar | ajavid, do you use to network bridge? |
| 02:12.53 | ajavid | how do you know? |
| 02:12.57 | ajavid | do I know you? |
| 02:13.34 | ajavid | and yes. wifi bridging |
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| 02:13.51 | ajavid | (I currently do it right now) |
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| 02:14.15 | ajavid | binarystar, are you familiar to me? |
| 02:14.34 | racecar56 | plans to reinstall due to libGL stupidity |
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| 02:14.42 | ajavid | no no no |
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| 02:14.49 | gravity | reinstall the whole distro? |
| 02:14.49 | binarystar | i dont know you |
| 02:14.55 | ajavid | he left? |
| 02:14.58 | racecar56 | gravity: yes |
| 02:15.00 | ajavid | racecar56, no don't do that |
| 02:15.06 | ajavid | racecar56, thats not oing to help your problem you know |
| 02:15.08 | ranix | reinstall what |
| 02:15.08 | gravity | racecar56: This is a wonderful learning experience. Just fix it. |
| 02:15.08 | binarystar | looking for helper |
| 02:15.12 | racecar56 | ajavid: then how do i fix libGL |
| 02:15.16 | ranix | what are you reinstalling due to opengl |
| 02:15.19 | ajavid | I don't know, sir |
| 02:15.27 | racecar56 | ranix: the entire distro |
| 02:15.27 | ranix | what's wrong with your libgl? |
| 02:15.30 | ajavid | racecar56, nvidia problems |
| 02:15.32 | ajavid | can't startx |
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| 02:15.35 | ranix | that would be retarded |
| 02:15.39 | boingful | The only place on the Internet where grammar, spelling and punctuation actually matters: http://www.anontalk.com/ |
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| 02:15.44 | pickcoder | binarystar: location? |
| 02:15.47 | racecar56 | ranix ajavid gravity no i can startx |
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| 02:15.54 | ajavid | but no 3d? |
| 02:15.58 | racecar56 | ranix ajavid gravity: right |
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| 02:16.04 | ajavid | ok |
| 02:16.27 | racecar56 | ranix ajavid gravity: i need 64bit debian, but also have 32bit libs |
| 02:16.46 | pickcoder | ia32-libs are normally installed |
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| 02:16.50 | loomsen_ | racecar56: you dont need nvidias 32bit compat libs |
| 02:16.51 | pickcoder | if not you can install the package easily |
| 02:16.55 | ajavid | pickcoder, I got something for ya |
| 02:17.14 | Nikke | how do i clear the dns table in debian? |
| 02:17.23 | racecar56 | ranix ajavid gravity loomsen_: so i get this weird mysterious error when i /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 |
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| 02:17.56 | ajavid | pickcoder, http://picpaste.com/5288_1219258761171_1219977375_653613_7701716_n.jpg |
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| 02:18.05 | ajavid | :) |
| 02:18.05 | ranix | what error |
| 02:18.16 | racecar56 | ranix ajavid gravity loomsen_: it's sickening to type |
| 02:18.20 | racecar56 | ranix ajavid gravity loomsen_: it's long |
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| 02:18.26 | ranix | !pastebinit |
| 02:18.26 | dpkg | well, pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>; specially convenient if you don't have a graphical interface. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list" ; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit" |
| 02:18.36 | pickcoder | cute |
| 02:18.43 | ajavid | pickcoder, how are the little ones mate? |
| 02:18.45 | ranix | startx | pastebinit |
| 02:18.49 | ajavid | pickcoder, ltns, how are you |
| 02:18.52 | pickcoder | the girls turned 2 this weekend |
| 02:18.57 | ajavid | aww wicked |
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| 02:19.06 | racecar56 | ranix ajavid gravity loomsen_: [ 3217.322044] libGL.so.1[9385]: segfault at 1 ip 0000000000000001 sp 00007fff05c36ac8 error 4 in libGL.so.185.18.31]7f3d91f49000+8d000] Segmentation fault |
| 02:19.24 | pickcoder | terrible 2's doubled |
| 02:19.37 | ajavid | hehe, oh boy |
| 02:19.55 | ajavid | Luna is about to be 2 in a few months |
| 02:19.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | racecar56, also, gpm gives mouse support on the console (inclusive copy&paste) |
| 02:20.02 | ranix | racecar56: can you dpkg -l | grep GL | pastebinit |
| 02:20.03 | ajavid | anyway. |
| 02:20.09 | ajavid | nice to see you agai man, word |
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| 02:20.20 | pickcoder | thanks you too |
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| 02:20.50 | ajavid | i think guerin had a baby too lately |
| 02:21.04 | ajavid | man, everyone is growing up, it feels only like yesterday I came in here about 9 years ago |
| 02:21.07 | racecar56 | ranix ajavid gravity loomsen_: http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f4388233e |
| 02:21.07 | ajavid | heh |
| 02:21.36 | pickcoder | really? |
| 02:21.38 | ajavid | 8 years |
| 02:22.03 | ajavid | yup, few months ago he had |
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| 02:23.25 | racecar56 | ranix ajavid gravity loomsen_: the poster is lisa because it isn't my comp |
| 02:23.43 | ranix | racecar56: do you have glx enabled in your xorg.conf; if so why? |
| 02:24.21 | ajavid | with nvidia you have to disable the GLCore and glx extentions |
| 02:24.23 | ajavid | iirc |
| 02:24.29 | racecar56 | ranix: O_. i don't |
| 02:24.32 | binarystar | ajavid, i got virtual eth0:0, that's possible bridge with eth0? |
| 02:24.35 | binarystar | help |
| 02:24.45 | ajavid | I'm not a networking guru, im a noob !:( |
| 02:24.48 | ranix | racecar56: can you cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | pastebinit |
| 02:24.49 | racecar56 | ranix ajavid gravity loomsen_: i don't have glx |
| 02:24.50 | gravity | remains willfully as ignorant as possible about nvidia-glx |
| 02:24.50 | ajavid | sure its possible |
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| 02:24.57 | ajavid | is with gravity |
| 02:25.01 | gravity | racecar56: You can stop adding me to your nick assault |
| 02:25.08 | pickcoder | binarystar: I'm not sure if you can create a br device on a virtual |
| 02:25.08 | ajavid | and me |
| 02:25.10 | abrotman | you sure know a lot for someone that doesn't want to know about it |
| 02:25.29 | ajavid | well, that happens abrotman |
| 02:25.31 | ajavid | :) |
| 02:25.42 | ajavid | its a side effect of being here |
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| 02:25.50 | gravity | abrotman: I know, it's sad, isn't it? |
| 02:25.55 | abrotman | heh |
| 02:26.21 | racecar56 | ranix: http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f234629e0 |
| 02:26.22 | acu | I run lenny on AMD I intend to upgrade to squeeze - is any warning - I use KDE |
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| 02:26.38 | acu | !squeeze |
| 02:26.38 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the next release. It is the three-eyed space alien. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/09/msg00000.html Ask me about <testing>. Not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze. Expected to be released in early 2010, see http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090729 Will be known as Debian 6.0. |
| 02:26.43 | ajavid | yes, kde3.5 will go caput |
| 02:26.58 | ajavid | 4.2 is not so great, and if you want kde3, you need to stay with stable as long as possible |
| 02:27.05 | ajavid | (as I do) |
| 02:27.15 | acu | ajavid: but my settings remain the same ? |
| 02:27.22 | ajavid | no |
| 02:27.24 | acu | and home etc ? |
| 02:27.31 | ajavid | but there is a tool to migrate your kde3 settings to kde4 |
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| 02:27.34 | ajavid | it launches after you upgrade |
| 02:27.36 | ranix | racecar56: what card are you using here |
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| 02:27.44 | racecar56 | ranix: pny geforce 8600gt |
| 02:27.57 | ajavid | acu, yes |
| 02:28.07 | ajavid | acu, /etc/ etc. will remain safe |
| 02:28.20 | ajavid | packages might update thier config files or some such, but no big deal |
| 02:28.31 | ranix | racecar56: how did you install the nvidia driver you are using? |
| 02:28.41 | acu | OK, then is OK to rock-and-roll (do not wait for perfect life !) |
| 02:28.49 | acu | Perfection has its price |
| 02:28.53 | ajavid | I wouldn't. I love kde3 too much |
| 02:29.06 | ajavid | I am happy with stable :) |
| 02:29.19 | mosno | high-fives ajavid |
| 02:29.24 | acu | ajavid: do not love anything - is an evolutionary trick to get you pregnant :) |
| 02:29.26 | ajavid | ^5 |
| 02:29.29 | racecar56 | ranix: first i used nvidia-installer and then i uninstalled it (nvidia-uninstall) and now i'm using modula-assistant's nvidia driver (/msg dpkg nvidia m-a) |
| 02:29.39 | pickcoder | binarystar: you can try it, but odds are the forwarding will fail if you've got more than one MAC assigned to a bridge point |
| 02:29.51 | racecar56 | ranix: i uninstalled nvidia-insatller's driver because it didn't have the 32bit libs i needed |
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| 02:30.02 | pickcoder | er.. more than one device sharing the same MAC |
| 02:30.16 | acu | ajavid: then I will stay so - I needed EKIGA to run decent - and the 2. so was so crapy - and 3. so rocks |
| 02:30.40 | ajavid | ok, good stuff |
| 02:31.04 | ajavid | stable ftw. |
| 02:31.37 | acu | what means ftw (fuck the way) sorry for organic english |
| 02:31.53 | pickcoder | for the win |
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| 02:32.12 | abrotman | hehe .. organic |
| 02:32.28 | pzn | any hint about a graphical app like "gedit" that encrypts/decrypts files automatically with gpg (need to always save them encrypted with my gpg key on disk). I use gpg for this, but I wonder if there is any app for regular dumb users that can do this |
| 02:32.40 | acu | Oh, I should have thought that debians are so sensible |
| 02:32.57 | racecar56 | is still thinking about reinstalling |
| 02:33.02 | acu | I just found a definition for Debian - is the WHOLESALE OS |
| 02:33.05 | ranix | < racecar56> yea, it's debian sid i'm working with |
| 02:33.11 | ranix | found ur problem |
| 02:33.18 | acu | bulk |
| 02:33.20 | gravity | pzn: emacs23 has a new encrypt/decrypt menu. You could easily script it to decrypt based on file-type extension |
| 02:33.20 | acu | OS |
| 02:33.31 | ranix | looks like you may very well have found a bug in the nvidia driver's 32 bit compat options |
| 02:33.56 | ranix | if you're savvy, dump a stack trace, gzip it, and email it to nvidia |
| 02:34.01 | unomystEz_ | is there an IP whois command line utility queries arin? |
| 02:34.12 | abrotman | whois ? |
| 02:34.13 | ranix | and file a bug against the sid package |
| 02:34.22 | abrotman | unomystEz_: did you try the 'whois' command ? |
| 02:34.24 | unomystEz_ | can it? i tried someip@arin.net |
| 02:34.30 | unomystEz_ | said not recognizable |
| 02:34.37 | unomystEz_ | might be the wrong whois client though |
| 02:34.44 | unomystEz_ | oh shit |
| 02:34.48 | unomystEz_ | im rittarded |
| 02:35.02 | unomystEz_ | sometimes things are simpler than they seem |
| 02:35.02 | ranix | reinstalling is actually not the worst idea in the world here, racecar56, but I'd bug report it first |
| 02:36.00 | ranix | sorry I got on your ass about it, it's just we see a lot of new users in here waste a lot of time reinstalling when they shouldn't |
| 02:36.18 | ranix | sorry I couldn't help |
| 02:36.33 | Phil4 | can anyone enlighten as to the problem with this: http://pastebin.com/m66ca129c? |
| 02:36.43 | Phil4 | logs report "the working directory is not writable" |
| 02:36.51 | Phil4 | which, unless I've gotten the wrong directory, it is writable |
| 02:37.08 | racecar56 | ranix: i have to use it, but anyway i don't know what i'd put in my report, just the weird libGL.so.1 error? i think they'll say it's because i used nvidia-installer which is unsupported and broke the system |
| 02:38.04 | ranix | racecar56: the nvidia install/uninstall might be leaving crap in your system it shouldn't (that's why it's unsupported), the best thing to do would be to stack traze, gzip it, and ship it off to nvidia with a complaint |
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| 02:40.33 | racecar56 | ranix: i agree |
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| 02:41.42 | racecar56 | ranix: because my internet is 200kbps i'll save my entire apt archive collection |
| 02:41.56 | racecar56 | ranix: and i have an empty hard drive for it too :D |
| 02:43.16 | Phil4 | eh, nvm |
| 02:43.25 | Phil4 | for some weird reason, bind wasn't in group bind :S |
| 02:44.42 | ajavid | !ping |
| 02:44.43 | dpkg | Yes, ajavid, you are online. |
| 02:44.45 | ajavid | ok |
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| 02:50.08 | edju | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:52.08 | abrotman | dhcp ? |
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| 02:54.24 | edju | not sure i use dhcp - dhclient? aren't those different? |
| 02:55.08 | markybob | uhmm...dhclient is a "dhcp" client. get it? |
| 02:55.12 | pickcoder | dhcp is a protocol. dhclient is a client app |
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| 02:55.45 | edju | man, i hate showing my ignorance in public. |
| 02:55.50 | MrBIOS-OSX | hi folks, is there a MIPS-specific Debian channel by chance? |
| 02:56.04 | MrBIOS-OSX | edju: humility shows wisdom :) |
| 02:56.33 | markybob | MrBIOS-OSX, probably your best bet is debian-mips@lists.debian.org |
| 02:56.39 | MrBIOS-OSX | yeah I saw it |
| 02:56.44 | abrotman | MrBIOS-OSX: #mipslinux .. not debian specific though |
| 02:56.46 | MrBIOS-OSX | I just want instant gratification, dontcha know |
| 02:57.01 | MrBIOS-OSX | abrotman: good enough for me :) |
| 02:57.05 | MrBIOS-OSX | and thanks |
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| 02:57.16 | abrotman | edju: tell him that 'humility shows wisdom' :) |
| 02:58.12 | edju | abrotman, tell who? |
| 02:58.19 | abrotman | nevermind |
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| 02:59.53 | edju | i seemed to have stumbled into monty python's flying circus. |
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| 03:02.43 | careta | please can anyone test if my proxy server works? 87.196.55.28:8081 |
| 03:03.47 | markybob | careta, lesson #1: dont make your proxy server publicly accessible |
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| 03:05.01 | ctmjr | wow |
| 03:05.07 | careta | markybob, i need that proxy server working for my boss |
| 03:05.50 | markybob | careta, i'm sure your boss doesnt want it open to the public |
| 03:06.04 | careta | markybob, can you please try it? |
| 03:06.25 | adb | careta: Not Found: Apache/2.2.9 (Debian) Server at 87.196.55.28 Port 8081 |
| 03:06.36 | careta | thanks adb |
| 03:06.42 | markybob | adb, please surf child porn when using his proxy server |
| 03:07.08 | markybob | dumbass |
| 03:07.13 | adb | :( |
| 03:07.17 | Nikke | i messed up my permissions in ~/ what should they be? |
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| 03:08.29 | markybob | Nikke, probably sudo chown -R user:user /home/user && sudo chmod -R 770 /home/user |
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| 03:13.05 | somehow | how i can enter sharing folder on linux |
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| 03:16.00 | Wooga | how do i reinstall package forcing writing missed config files? |
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| 03:16.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | !confmiss |
| 03:16.09 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>; |
| 03:16.17 | Wooga | thanks |
| 03:16.37 | tonsofpcs | ok, so i have a machine running lenny [not r2] with only a cdrom drive. it has no internet connectivity. it is in the middle of nowhere. i need to get telnet installed on it, as well as possibly X, firefox, a jre, and flash. ideas on a good way to do this? is there a lenny cd set that i can dl and then add to apt-sources? |
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| 03:17.18 | markybob | tonsofpcs, yes. you download the cds or dvds and add them to sources.list. nothing's special about it |
| 03:17.33 | markybob | tonsofpcs, however, you probably have no reason to use telnet instead of ssh |
| 03:18.03 | tonsofpcs | markybob: can i connect to a tcp port with ssh and type raw without encryption or automated authentication? |
| 03:18.14 | tonsofpcs | [i looked in man briefly earlier and didn't see how] |
| 03:18.42 | markybob | tonsofpcs, you can connected with automated authenticated (iow keys), and yes, it's over tcp |
| 03:18.53 | tonsofpcs | without authentication. |
| 03:19.12 | markybob | dude. sigh |
| 03:19.17 | tonsofpcs | like, to a machine that hosts a custom interface for any client running telnet. |
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| 03:19.35 | tonsofpcs | anyway, the reason i ask is that i originally installed on my workbench with netinstall cd |
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| 03:20.02 | tonsofpcs | i know what ssh does. i need telnet. if the ssh client can essentially function as telnet, i don't need telnet |
| 03:20.19 | markybob | tonsofpcs, you dont need telnet. and you're an idiot if you use telnet |
| 03:20.39 | ajavid | markybob, don't namecall |
| 03:20.50 | ajavid | tonsofpcs, ssh is better than telnet, it isn't cleartext |
| 03:20.50 | markybob | shivers |
| 03:20.55 | ranix | telnet is not idiotic |
| 03:21.03 | Arrowmaster | markybob: you dont understand his needs |
| 03:21.06 | ranix | (if you're telnetting over a serial interface) |
| 03:21.08 | tonsofpcs | markybob: i'm an idiot for using telnet to manage an embeded system on a closed network on top of a mountain? |
| 03:21.28 | Tramp | tonsofpcs: netcat can speak telnet (and is more versatile). However, then you need netcat :) |
| 03:21.36 | tonsofpcs | Tramp: exactly :-p |
| 03:21.37 | ajavid | netcat ftw |
| 03:22.00 | ajavid | swissarmy chainsaw of networking isnt it called? |
| 03:22.18 | tonsofpcs | lol |
| 03:22.30 | bluethundr_ | erm.. what da heck http://beezag.pastebin.com/m56881cf6 |
| 03:22.34 | Tramp | ... and that it is. |
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| 03:22.56 | tonsofpcs | ok, now another issue that i'm hoping someone here knows something about |
| 03:23.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | tell us what mountain... we'll hack your embedded device! |
| 03:23.15 | tonsofpcs | CutMeOwnThroat: good luck getting past the state police |
| 03:23.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | I'll lie about my age |
| 03:23.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | no problem |
| 03:23.34 | tonsofpcs | lol |
| 03:23.37 | bluethundr_ | shouldn't this script create the directory? |
| 03:24.32 | markybob | bluethundr_, no |
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| 03:24.52 | bluethundr_ | markybob: how can I get the script to create the dirs? |
| 03:25.04 | pickcoder | fires an EMP device as he flies by the mountain |
| 03:25.11 | tonsofpcs | running mgetty, was working fine, but i need to line share with a different device. -R seems to meet my needs. I set -R 240 and now when a RING is detected on the line, mgetty complains about DSR being pulled to off [high if i recall the spec correctly] and tries resetting the modem, so it never answers when the second call comes in. Any clue how to get -R to work properly? |
| 03:25.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | bluethundr_, mkdir -p is your friend |
| 03:25.13 | markybob | bluethundr_, same way you do it normally. add mkdir before it |
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| 03:26.00 | bluethundr_ | http://beezag.pastebin.com/d56832355 |
| 03:26.20 | bluethundr_ | CutMeOwnThroat: cool |
| 03:26.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | or skip the date in the directory... you have it in the filename already |
| 03:26.28 | markybob | bluethundr_, so? add mkdir to the for loop |
| 03:26.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | so what's the point |
| 03:26.43 | bluethundr_ | markybob: right on, thanks |
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| 03:28.00 | pickcoder | tonsofpcs: is it talking to a real modem? |
| 03:28.10 | markybob | bluethundr_, you should probably try #bash for further help if you need it. it's more on topic |
| 03:28.23 | tonsofpcs | pickcoder: yes. [who uses fake modems?] |
| 03:28.29 | bluethundr_ | markybob: cool thank u |
| 03:28.47 | pickcoder | tonsofpcs: I wasn't sure if you were trying to talk to some UART-based device |
| 03:28.51 | bluethundr_ | bam! success! thanks! |
| 03:28.59 | tonsofpcs | well, the device calling to test is just my phone [i don't have a second line on-site to use a real modem on. if i did, i wouldn't need -R] |
| 03:29.05 | pickcoder | doesn't DSR turn off during rign if autoanswer is enabled? |
| 03:29.11 | tonsofpcs | but it never latches the line,s o it wouldn't know. |
| 03:29.49 | tonsofpcs | pickcoder: not sure. it's a multitech, i may need to check its S registers to make mgetty happy [or is there a way to make mgetty ignore DSR?] |
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| 03:30.05 | tonsofpcs | [while waiting for a ring, that is] |
| 03:30.06 | tonsofpcs | hi a2! |
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| 03:31.37 | tonsofpcs | pickcoder: but i find it odd that with mgetty in answer-on-ring-mode, it doesn't complain about DSR going off. with it in -R mode, it does. |
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| 03:31.49 | tonsofpcs | the modem shouldn't behave any differently. |
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| 03:33.24 | acu | what kernel is in squeeze |
| 03:33.38 | Nikke | any vsftpd user here? |
| 03:33.57 | tonsofpcs | i haven't been in some time now, Nikke |
| 03:33.58 | Nikke | when i upload things to my public_html on my server the files gets wrong permissions |
| 03:34.06 | Nikke | -rw------- |
| 03:34.18 | tonsofpcs | are owner and group 'correct' ? |
| 03:34.23 | Nikke | yes |
| 03:34.27 | markybob | acu, http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 03:34.34 | Evet | how can i play need for speed undercover on debian? |
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| 03:34.45 | ajavid | what is the file/directory creation mask in /etc/vsftpd.conf |
| 03:35.02 | Nikke | #local_umask=022 |
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| 03:35.13 | ajavid | its commented out |
| 03:35.18 | Nikke | it shouldnt? |
| 03:35.30 | markybob | ...depends on what you want |
| 03:35.40 | markybob | if you want 022, uncomment it |
| 03:35.55 | Nikke | i want ppl to se the files when i uload to my userdir |
| 03:35.57 | Nikke | apache webserver |
| 03:36.12 | ajavid | use webdav instead |
| 03:36.21 | Nikke | whats that? |
| 03:36.24 | ajavid | look it up |
| 03:36.31 | acu | thanks margybob |
| 03:36.41 | hn8456 | hi all |
| 03:36.42 | acu | markybob |
| 03:36.44 | ajavid | acu, learn tab completion |
| 03:37.13 | acu | ajavid: how is that done |
| 03:37.13 | hn8456 | can i connect to the internet with the modem TP-Link 8817 via USB port ? |
| 03:37.19 | ajavid | like you type aj<tab> to finish my name |
| 03:37.42 | acu | ajavid, |
| 03:37.45 | acu | wow |
| 03:37.54 | acu | you are smacnay (smart |
| 03:37.57 | acu | :) |
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| 03:38.23 | tonsofpcs | wow, lenny is 31 cds?!?! |
| 03:38.34 | ajavid | 50~ish gb |
| 03:38.37 | Nikke | then what should the ~/public_html have for their permissions? |
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| 03:38.59 | tonsofpcs | are the cds ordered in some sort of sensical manner, or at least with most oft used packages in earlier cds, or do i really need all of them? |
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| 03:39.22 | markybob | Nikke, owned by user:www-data and chmod -R 775 probably |
| 03:39.36 | BillyCrook_ | anyone here familiar with grub2 and luksified lvm in lenny? |
| 03:39.39 | adb | dpkg: tell tonsofpcs -about netinstall |
| 03:39.45 | markybob | tonsofpcs, yes, most used is first |
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| 03:40.16 | tonsofpcs | markybob: so for my situation, cds 1-10 plus 30-31 should do it :-p |
| 03:40.30 | markybob | tonsofpcs, i've never used anything passed the first dvd |
| 03:40.40 | bluethundr_ | mount.nfs: backup:/var/backups failed, reason given by server: Permission denied |
| 03:40.42 | tonsofpcs | are some of the CDs sources and some binaries? |
| 03:40.46 | bluethundr_ | permission accepted? |
| 03:41.47 | Nikke | markybob: Forbidden |
| 03:41.49 | Nikke | You don't have permission to access / on this server. |
| 03:41.54 | ajavid | !popcon |
| 03:41.54 | dpkg | i guess popcon is the Debian Popularity contest, the basis for what packages appear on the first few CDs/DVDs etc (by rank). Install the popularity-contest package to participate. See the results at http://popcon.debian.org/ |
| 03:41.55 | Nikke | when i try to access the empty public_html |
| 03:41.57 | BillyCrook_ | I just did a lenny install with the goodbye-microsoft.com thing, and both grub legacy and grub2's install step failed. I just need to know how to get it booted, and then do the normal grub-install |
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| 03:42.15 | racecar56 | ajavid: i almost thought that said !popcorn |
| 03:42.23 | racecar56 | !popcorn |
| 03:42.23 | dpkg | pours a bag of popcorn into mluser-work's lap. (You probably mean popcon, ask me about <popcon>) |
| 03:42.28 | racecar56 | haha |
| 03:42.50 | racecar56 | gotta go |
| 03:42.55 | pickcoder | mm popcorn |
| 03:42.58 | ajavid | Nikke, http://kerneltrap.org/node/6237 |
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| 03:43.40 | pickcoder | tonsofpcs: I dunno what to tell you about the ringback thing. What model modem is it. |
| 03:43.42 | ajavid | http://vsftpd.beasts.org/vsftpd_conf.html |
| 03:43.56 | bluethundr_ | logged in as root can ssh from box to box without entering login |
| 03:44.01 | tonsofpcs | pickcoder: it's a multitech... lemme find model |
| 03:44.39 | tonsofpcs | adb - thanks, the machines were made with netinstall, i'm finding packages that i didn't install and i'm sure i'll find more. they're in the middle of nowhere with no internet access |
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| 03:45.43 | pickcoder | set up a local apt mirror on a small box and ship it there |
| 03:46.32 | tonsofpcs | how much space would i need for that? |
| 03:46.56 | pickcoder | less than an 80GB drive |
| 03:46.57 | adb | local mirror on a hard drive ~ 49 GB |
| 03:46.59 | ajavid | for what? |
| 03:47.25 | tonsofpcs | don't have anything that big and easy to travel. cds are by far the easiest, even 31 of them |
| 03:47.40 | pickcoder | better yet.. set up a hot-swap machine and stick the apt mirror on a seperate drive |
| 03:47.54 | pickcoder | you can send out new repos on just the disk |
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| 03:52.16 | ajavid | !tell BillyCrook_ -about fixmbr |
| 03:52.24 | ajavid | BillyCrook_, this will help |
| 03:52.42 | BillyCrook_ | ajavid: thanks! |
| 03:53.10 | ajavid | !reinstall grub |
| 03:53.11 | dpkg | See http://wiki.debian.org/GrubRecover http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s07.html. Boot a cd like knoppixgrml, mount your disk read/write, (mount boot partition into your / partition if applicable,) mount -o bind /dev/ /your/root/dev; chroot /your/root; mount -t proc none /proc; grub-install /dev/foo (you may need to edit /etc/mtab and/or /boot/grub/device.map). Also ask me about <fixmbr> <rescue mode> |
| 03:53.16 | ajavid | this as well |
| 03:53.26 | bluethundr_ | setting up NIS :) |
| 03:53.33 | BillyCrook_ | slight problem though. those are the instructions for grub legacy. I know that because I've given them to other people before. And I don't have any boot media for this machine |
| 03:53.45 | ajavid | I have no experience with grub2 |
| 03:53.46 | BillyCrook_ | no ability to boot usb. no optical drives |
| 03:54.10 | bluethundr_ | ajavid: I think I might've friended u on facebook and lastfm |
| 03:54.13 | BillyCrook_ | ajavid: gnu sure does push it hard |
| 03:54.23 | ajavid | bluethundr_, you did |
| 03:54.41 | bluethundr_ | ajavid: right on.. cool to know a deb dev! :) |
| 03:56.16 | tonsofpcs | pickcoder: multitech MultiModem ZDX (MT5656ZDX) |
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| 03:56.29 | ajavid | tonsofpcs, I know you from somewhere... |
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| 03:56.48 | ajavid | tonsofpcs, I can't recall where though, #kde maybe |
| 03:56.49 | ajavid | ? |
| 03:57.00 | jza | hi how can I watch a color terminal under Bash through ssh |
| 03:57.16 | tonsofpcs | ajavid: maybe |
| 03:57.27 | tonsofpcs | ajavid: although it may be somewhere aja or vid related... |
| 03:57.42 | ajavid | tonsofpcs, lol |
| 03:57.48 | tonsofpcs | [that was sort of a joke :-p] |
| 03:57.59 | ajavid | I'm aware, I somewhat got it |
| 03:58.10 | tonsofpcs | i've been around for quite some time... people know me from all over |
| 03:58.17 | BillyCrook_ | ajavid: the grub legacy equivalent problem to what I am experiencing is the blinking grub> _ prompt. Whereat you can type root (hd0,0); setup (hd0); reboot; and it's usually able to boot again |
| 03:58.41 | ajavid | BillyCrook_, I've never experienced it |
| 03:58.47 | tonsofpcs | ajavid: i do video, engineering, and old computer stuffs :) |
| 03:58.56 | ajavid | oh yes, ##hardware |
| 03:58.59 | ajavid | Nyle |
| 03:59.15 | ajavid | I remember now, I loved your nickname, tons of pcs, send me some! :) |
| 03:59.30 | ajavid | you said you would if I paid for shipping! hah! I remember now |
| 03:59.35 | jza | hi how can I watch a color terminal under Bash through ssh |
| 03:59.36 | ajavid | anyway, offtopic. |
| 03:59.47 | ajavid | jza, what do you mean 'watch' ? |
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| 04:00.10 | ajavid | !wayttd jza |
| 04:00.10 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, jza? |
| 04:00.17 | jza | when I am on an ssh terminal i want to see the files displayed with colors |
| 04:00.29 | ajavid | jza, oh |
| 04:00.41 | ajavid | jza, edit ~/.bashrc and add an alias for ls |
| 04:00.50 | jza | dpkg: I want to see a colored files on the terminal also on vim to see a color separated with the file |
| 04:00.50 | ajavid | jza, like alias ls='ls --color=always' |
| 04:00.50 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, jza |
| 04:01.01 | ajavid | jza, man ls |
| 04:01.15 | jza | ajavid: ok what about vim color coded? |
| 04:01.21 | ajavid | I don't use vim |
| 04:01.38 | jza | what you use? |
| 04:01.40 | ajavid | emacs |
| 04:01.53 | jza | I think emacs also color-code the code |
| 04:02.20 | ajavid | syntax hilighting in emacs is not the same as vim or nano or jed... they are all different |
| 04:02.36 | ajavid | they all use different configurations |
| 04:02.50 | ajavid | try #vim (or google debian vim how to) etc. |
| 04:02.54 | ajavid | !vim |
| 04:02.54 | dpkg | [vim] Vi IMproved, an enhanced <vi> editor. Extremely popular clone with syntax highlighting and graphical X interface available. 'vim-tiny' no longer installs vim <alternatives> as of 2:7.2.049-1 (Debian bug #529977). See also <vim syntax highlighting> and <colored pager>. http://www.vim.org/ http://vim.wikia.com/ #vim on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 04:03.19 | ajavid | ahh, there you go, you can get a colorized pager using 'most' probably |
| 04:03.29 | ajavid | and try /msg dpkg vim syntax highlighting |
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| 04:06.03 | acu | I am confused - I enabled squeeze repos and try to upgrade Konqueror and the KDE is to be removed - strangely enough the KDE version is 5 what the f |
| 04:06.14 | ajavid | acu, do not do that |
| 04:06.39 | ajavid | acu, squeeze onwards kde3 is depcrecated and kde4 is to be default |
| 04:06.59 | ajavid | acu, if you upgrade to squeeze your stable kde3 _will_ be removed |
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| 04:07.34 | acu | ajavid: Ok I got it but is not there on the list to be installed - |
| 04:07.42 | ajavid | acu, you can setup a sid chroot, install konqueror there and then launch it in your stable and use it |
| 04:07.54 | ajavid | acu, this is not hard to do |
| 04:07.56 | ajavid | !chroot |
| 04:07.56 | dpkg | a way to change the root directory of a process, see also http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch09.en.html#_chroot_system |
| 04:08.03 | pickcoder | tonsofpcs: &S1 will set DSR high all of the time |
| 04:08.56 | tonsofpcs | pickcoder: isn't DSR line high == DSR off? or is DSR line high when it's DSR? |
| 04:09.11 | acu | OK cross finger - make a cross and press enter |
| 04:10.07 | tonsofpcs | [again, i forget this stuff, it's been years, but i know some high = on and some high = off |
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| 04:11.51 | chetan | hey. the debian testing installer isos fail in a virtualbox machine. anyone know why? |
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| 04:13.53 | pickcoder | I don't remember |
| 04:14.01 | AJKhan | chetan, any errors at all? where does it fail? (virtualbox is not a supported arch is it?) |
| 04:14.14 | pickcoder | I think DSR high is on, but I haven't looked at a line-level RS232 box in a while |
| 04:14.33 | chetan | i set up virtualbox to emulate a 64-bit processor |
| 04:14.34 | pickcoder | there's one plugged into a scale in the warehouse but I don't even remember what the LED colors mean |
| 04:14.35 | AJKhan | virtualbox emulates what amd64 and 386? |
| 04:14.46 | AJKhan | chetan, so did you use a amd64 iso? |
| 04:14.56 | chetan | debian stable installer works |
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| 04:15.27 | chetan | yes. i used the amd64 iso. it throws me a blank cursor right after i select "Install" from the initial menu |
| 04:15.44 | ajavid | chetan, ok then try install stable and upgrade to squeeze |
| 04:16.12 | chetan | :( |
| 04:16.16 | ajavid | :( |
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| 04:17.31 | Dassu | Is anybody here running Nvidia binary drivers with debian testing? I'm having " |
| 04:17.31 | Dassu | niko@mythbox:~$ |
| 04:17.35 | Dassu | Sry. |
| 04:18.15 | Dassu | Anyways. very often Xorg load rises to the 99% and dmesg has message: " NVRM: Xid (0001:00): 8, Channel 00000000" |
| 04:18.48 | Dassu | http://pastebin.ca/1528997 full message |
| 04:18.57 | binarystar | does anyone know "mutiple bridge from vitual ethernet"? i got error . #brctl addif br0 eth0 eth0:0 eth0:1 |
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| 04:19.29 | binarystar | is that possible ? |
| 04:19.58 | Tramp | !nvidia |
| 04:19.58 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
| 04:20.06 | Dassu | Tramp: Yes. |
| 04:20.11 | Dassu | I did as they said :< |
| 04:20.26 | Tramp | Dassu: read the last sentence |
| 04:20.38 | Dassu | FFUUU |
| 04:20.42 | Dassu | ;P. |
| 04:21.00 | Dassu | is sad ;-( |
| 04:23.28 | MrBIOS-OSX | you'll survive, somehow |
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| 04:33.21 | BillyCrook_ | what commands must I issue at the grub prompt to boot a debian lenny system with a kernel and initrd/initramfs on a /boot filesystem on /dev/sde1 aka (hd0,0) and the root filesystem on an LV inside of a VG supported by a PV that's sde2 luksified? |
| 04:33.37 | BillyCrook_ | do I need some special kernel arg because of the luks? |
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| 04:34.20 | BillyCrook_ | based on http://grub.enbug.org/grub.cfg, I did set root=(hd0,1); linux /vmlinu[tab key] root=/dev/mapper/rootlvname; initrd /initrd[tabkey] and that got it to boot into its initramfs, but it never asked for a passphrase and subsequently never found the root fs |
| 04:35.05 | BillyCrook_ | and I should clarify the sh:grub> prompt of a GRUB2 system (not the grub> prompt of a legacy grub system |
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| 04:36.39 | Lindenle | Hi I am getting error -19 error submitting urb with Barry and tmobile in squeeze, can anyone help? |
| 04:39.42 | Lindenle | Hello? |
| 04:42.10 | Wyzard | has heard of T-Mobile, but wonders what "submitting urb with Barry" means |
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| 04:43.19 | Lindenle | It is some usb error from pppob but with no connection I can't google it .... |
| 04:43.39 | Lindenle | A serious catch 22 |
| 04:44.30 | Wyzard | So you're trying to connect a computer to the Internet via USB connection to a T-Mobile phone? |
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| 04:45.22 | Lindenle | Yes, it works for about 10 to 30 seconds then I get the error mentioned above. |
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| 04:45.39 | Wyzard | (That's not something I know anything about, but you'll have better luck seeking help if you're clear about what you're trying to do) |
| 04:45.50 | Wyzard | though if you can IRC, you can Google... |
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| 04:46.01 | Lindenle | Sorry for the lack of info... Typing on a BB is a serious pain |
| 04:46.20 | Wyzard | oh, you're IRCing from the phone, I guess |
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| 05:04.10 | BillyCrook_ | do you need to pass special kernel args to your kernel if you're booting to a luks+lvm machine set up by the luks+lvm option in the debian lenny installer? |
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| 05:09.54 | hacker_kid | im trying to syncronize ftp accounts across a cluster, so an account created on a copied to b and vice versa. how could i do that? (yes i am using the shadow file for user accounts) |
| 05:09.58 | Nikke | is there any repo for seamonkey? |
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| 05:11.58 | BillyCrook_ | hacker_kid: would you be able to accept synchronizing ALL accounts from one machine to the other? |
| 05:12.20 | hacker_kid | BillyCrook_, yeah no problem |
| 05:12.38 | BillyCrook_ | (if so just copy passwd and shadow) (assuming they're the same or similar distros) |
| 05:12.54 | hacker_kid | BillyCrook_, yeah same debian etch |
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| 05:13.06 | hacker_kid | BillyCrook_, nothing else required? |
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| 05:13.29 | BillyCrook_ | nope. my employer sells clusters, and thats how we do it |
| 05:13.35 | BillyCrook_ | we also copy group and gshadow |
| 05:13.48 | BillyCrook_ | which you might want to do as well |
| 05:14.20 | hacker_kid | BillyCrook_, now my proftpd was auto configured by ispCP's setup script, do you know how i could tell if the ftp accounts are user accounts or virtual accounts? |
| 05:14.27 | BillyCrook_ | 99% of the time just copying those four files does the job good enough. the next step up from that is a big one, to ldap |
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| 05:14.48 | BillyCrook_ | hacker_kid: no idea. never used one of those control panel things |
| 05:14.51 | hacker_kid | BillyCrook_, good idea, thats easy since unison is already running, hmm ldap would probably be hard |
| 05:16.24 | hacker_kid | BillyCrook_, thanks for the help, that should be the last piece to sync.. if that doesnt work drbd and just sync / lol |
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| 05:17.08 | dondelelcaro | there's no real reason not to use ldap |
| 05:17.37 | dondelelcaro | it's pretty trivial to set up and configure |
| 05:17.41 | hacker_kid | dondelelcaro, except that i would have to integrate it into an existing system, would be a difficult switch |
| 05:18.09 | dondelelcaro | hacker_kid: not really; there are tools to convert an existing systemto laddap |
| 05:19.07 | hacker_kid | dondelelcaro, yes but not reprogram a code base to use ldap, ie creating and configuring the accounts automatically |
| 05:19.30 | hacker_kid | an admin wasting time setting up ftp users is expensive |
| 05:19.35 | flourish | hi all, i want to create a auto-loadable CD, which channel should i go or if someone has such experience, please help |
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| 05:21.31 | hacker_kid | BillyCrook_, what about shadow- passwd- group- and gshadow- ? |
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| 05:23.53 | DarwinSurvivor | I'm having problem connecting to one of my machines |
| 05:24.22 | BillyCrook_ | hacker_kid: they probably are backups from some editor, but it can't hurt to sync them as well |
| 05:24.29 | DarwinSurvivor | It's running ubuntu (jaunty netbook remix), but nobody on the #ubuntu channel had any idea how to fix it and directed me this way |
| 05:24.30 | hacker_kid | BillyCrook_, odd |
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| 05:25.00 | BillyCrook_ | after the first sync, check to make sure ownership of homedirs and mailspools is as expected |
| 05:25.06 | BillyCrook_ | (on the dest machine |
| 05:25.11 | DarwinSurvivor | Basically, no computer can connect to the machine (ping/ssh/http/etc) until it pings the client first (the ubuntu machine is used as a server) |
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| 05:25.31 | dondelelcaro | hacker_kid: right, that's why tools exist to do all of it for you |
| 05:25.39 | BillyCrook_ | DarwinSurvivor: have you "done something" with ebtables or iptables? |
| 05:25.43 | DarwinSurvivor | pinging it results in "Destination Host Unreachable" |
| 05:26.19 | DarwinSurvivor | BillyCrook_: iptables has been disabled (iptables -L shows everything as empty) |
| 05:26.25 | hacker_kid | dondelelcaro, my point is no tool exists to integrate ldap into the existing codebase, i wont take the time when what i have will work with just simple file sync |
| 05:26.29 | DarwinSurvivor | wait, what is ebtables...? |
| 05:26.39 | dondelelcaro | DarwinSurvivor: it's either not replying to arp requests, is on the wrong subnet, has the wrong gateway configured, or is otherwise misconfigured. |
| 05:26.57 | BillyCrook_ | http://bother.bcrook.com/?q=ebtables&l=1 |
| 05:27.07 | dondelelcaro | DarwinSurvivor: but since it's on Debian, it's not on topic here; if someone wishes to answer your question, they're free to do it in #ubuntu (or in PRIVMSG) |
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| 05:27.28 | DarwinSurvivor | dondelelcaro: It can connect to anything else, and once it pings (or connects any other way) to a specific client, that client can then connect to it with no problem (until it ignores it for about an hour, then the problem returns) |
| 05:27.29 | dondelelcaro | hacker_kid: everything should be using pam, and there are ldap modules for pam. |
| 05:28.05 | dondelelcaro | DarwinSurvivor: that doesn't really change anything |
| 05:28.16 | DarwinSurvivor | #ubuntu had no idea what the problem was, they thought it could be a debian problem (since ubuntu is based on debian) |
| 05:28.32 | BillyCrook_ | #ubuntu would tell you to reboot and make sure your mouse was plugged in |
| 05:28.43 | dondelelcaro | DarwinSurvivor: we only support Debian here. |
| 05:28.49 | hacker_kid | lol they arent that bad, close tho |
| 05:29.11 | dondelelcaro | (those of us who do support derivatives of Debian do it in channels associated with that derivative) |
| 05:29.12 | hacker_kid | ubuntu is for the lazy, like me. just doesnt make a good server |
| 05:29.25 | BillyCrook_ | DarwinSurvivor: just say its debian, or that oh look you just found the same problem on a debian machine that happens to be sitting right next to it |
| 05:29.28 | dondelelcaro | whatever ubuntu is or is not isn't on topic here; nor is #ubuntu. |
| 05:29.28 | shivraj | !isos |
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| 05:31.09 | shivraj | I wonder how many people are using wget -c like it says to get their isos |
| 05:31.13 | shivraj | does it matter ? |
| 05:31.31 | shivraj | im downloading cd1.iso ... since Im tired of netinstall |
| 05:31.34 | shivraj | taking so long |
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| 05:32.15 | BillyCrook_ | -c matters if your connection gets interrupted, so you can pick up where you left off |
| 05:33.11 | DarwinSurvivor | i have to take my sister to work, i'll be back in about 20 minutes |
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| 05:35.23 | shivraj | whats debian-update ?? which was released on Jun-29 ? |
| 05:36.05 | shivraj | this is just cd1 with updated packages correct ? |
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| 05:49.02 | pfp | help |
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| 05:49.17 | pfp | how to add a user on debian? that adduser syntax |
| 05:49.21 | magdalene | skitters out from under the #debian_couch and hides in the lush and dark foliage of the #debian_fern |
| 05:49.34 | magdalene | *skitter* *skitter* |
| 05:49.37 | magdalene | useradd? |
| 05:49.47 | pfp | yup whats the syntax |
| 05:49.57 | magdalene | you have to be root obviousl |
| 05:50.00 | pfp | yes |
| 05:50.06 | Kamping_Kaiser | takes a potshot at magdalene |
| 05:50.13 | magdalene | adduser <name> |
| 05:50.20 | Kamping_Kaiser | pfp: have you considered running the command? looked at the man page? check command --help? |
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| 05:50.25 | pfp | no but then it gives some problem when u connect to it |
| 05:50.29 | magdalene | and the rest should ju8st come up |
| 05:50.31 | pfp | there is one more command u need to do |
| 05:50.37 | pfp | so that the user can do wget etc |
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| 05:51.49 | magdalene | offers Kamping_Kaiser a free #debian_herbivore T-shirt in his choice of dayglow colour |
| 05:52.10 | Kamping_Kaiser | \o/ |
| 05:52.34 | magdalene | come a little closer, I'm really napping |
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| 05:53.43 | vargadanis | hello everyone... is it gonna cause my any problems if I installed a 32bit system and i want to migrate to a 64bit kernel? |
| 05:53.48 | vargadanis | so i have all 32bit apps |
| 05:53.54 | magdalene | Kamping_Kaiser: you must be one of the very few people who haven't seen aliens |
| 05:53.55 | vargadanis | and i want to make em all 64bit |
| 05:54.10 | vargadanis | so I recompile my kernel and then update each one of the apps to 64bit |
| 05:54.17 | magdalene | pdg: man wget |
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| 05:54.37 | Kamping_Kaiser | magdalene: quite probably |
| 05:54.54 | magdalene | or jurassic park |
| 05:54.55 | magdalene | ... |
| 05:54.56 | craigevil | vargadanis: it would probably be quicker to just reinstall with 64bit |
| 05:55.15 | vargadanis | craigevil, possibly however i can't do that :S |
| 05:55.16 | magdalene | vargadanis: and less hassle |
| 05:55.36 | vargadanis | well anyway... I was just interested in the possibility |
| 05:55.47 | vargadanis | it's really only for 'educational purposes' :) |
| 05:55.49 | craigevil | to go from 32bit to 64bit involves all new libs including important ones that cant just be changed to 64bit |
| 05:55.50 | magdalene | its like building on a shitty foundation |
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| 05:56.05 | magdalene | exqse me |
| 05:56.27 | vargadanis | well shitty fundation !== debian => no go -_- |
| 05:56.40 | magdalene | heh |
| 05:57.02 | vargadanis | is anyone using linux-vserver on debian here? |
| 05:57.25 | vargadanis | ohh btw... how do i get information on what mods the debian guys did to the kernel? |
| 05:57.43 | magdalene | trust me, debian can be just as buggy as windows if its installed piecemeal and repaired with binding wire and bandades |
| 05:57.52 | magdalene | er bandaids rather |
| 05:58.15 | vargadanis | hehe :) I belive this applies to anything out there |
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| 05:58.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | vargadanis: you could look at the source diff for a start |
| 05:58.39 | magdalene | vargadanis: ... at the beginning of the compile package or the debian website |
| 05:58.56 | vargadanis | it's not the possiblity of being bugged that makes linux distros so good but the possiblity of being able to fix those bugs :) |
| 05:59.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | vargadanis: theres also a package with the debian changes iirc |
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| 06:02.30 | vargadanis | Kamping_Kaiser, do you happen to know the name of that package? |
| 06:02.52 | vargadanis | what does it leave me with if i use a vanilla kernel with only grsec and vserver patches? |
| 06:03.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | linux-source-2.6.26 is the package i was thinking of, which isnt a diff package. |
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| 06:03.23 | magdalene | vargadanis: a really stable system? |
| 06:03.30 | Kamping_Kaiser | so if you want the source diff you'll want to grab the diff.gz out of the archive |
| 06:04.08 | Phasy13 | How to crack up a wifi password? |
| 06:04.13 | vargadanis | muhaha |
| 06:04.17 | vargadanis | wireshark |
| 06:04.21 | Phasy13 | I've heard many people telling stories about that |
| 06:04.27 | vargadanis | capture all traffic on the interface |
| 06:04.34 | vargadanis | one of them will be an auth one |
| 06:04.37 | vargadanis | might take a while |
| 06:04.44 | vargadanis | and then just run a password cracker on it |
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| 06:04.55 | vargadanis | if you get lucky you have access to the wifi in a matter of days |
| 06:05.01 | Phasy13 | vargadanis no one at the moment is using the router |
| 06:05.08 | Phasy13 | I here alone ;( |
| 06:05.13 | magdalene | it *is* amazing what people think is private about wifi |
| 06:05.15 | vargadanis | in that cose you can't crack it |
| 06:05.21 | Phasy13 | FAIL |
| 06:05.25 | vargadanis | another option |
| 06:05.26 | magdalene | unless you know them |
| 06:05.34 | vargadanis | try the guess and hope the best option |
| 06:05.36 | magdalene | and can psych it |
| 06:06.07 | magdalene | but... |
| 06:06.40 | magdalene | why on earth would you want to be doing such a .... morally degenerate .... act.. tsk. tsk.. |
| 06:06.50 | Phasy13 | magdalene I don't think anything about wifi... I don't actually know how it works and stuff, but I heard stories about cracking them in minutes. that's why I ask |
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| 06:07.02 | craigevil | Phasy13: google aircrack-ng howto |
| 06:07.08 | vargadanis | magdalene, I fail to understand the purpose of debian patches on the kernel if I recompile a vanilla version I get a very stable system... |
| 06:07.53 | craigevil | vargadanis: my system is stable considering i run sid and my install is 5 yrs old, using debian kernel and daily apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 06:07.53 | Phasy13 | magdalene well, I'm sitting in the office, noone is here except me... If I use wired network I musst sit on a shitty chair, at a shitty table... If I use wifi, I can sit at the cool table. The password isn't secret |
| 06:08.01 | Phasy13 | there's just noone here to tell me |
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| 06:08.51 | vargadanis | Phasy13, try connecting to the router through cable and go to the admin UI of the router |
| 06:09.02 | magdalene | verg: I was assuming you would be keeping it up to date with apt-get |
| 06:09.04 | vargadanis | there is a list of default passwords on the internet for each one of those |
| 06:09.06 | vargadanis | you can try that |
| 06:09.21 | vargadanis | magdalene, of couse I would |
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| 06:10.10 | vargadanis | ohh boy... on my poor 1.8GHz 512MB ram system it's gonna take 4EVER to compile the kernel |
| 06:10.18 | vargadanis | and then recompile it cause it doesn't work O_o |
| 06:10.26 | magdalene | bah |
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| 06:10.52 | magdalene | im on a toshiba 2100cdt laptop with 516k cry me a river |
| 06:11.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | vargadanis: it takes about 10 hours to build a full debian kerenl from source on my box, which is 2.4ghz |
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| 06:11.38 | magdalene | Kids today |
| 06:11.41 | vargadanis | 10 hours? |
| 06:11.51 | vargadanis | it's like a DOS attack to my users :) |
| 06:11.52 | vargadanis | muhaha |
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| 06:12.21 | konr | Guys, I've deleted an important file at /etc/mpdscribble.conf. How can I make aptitude recreate it? |
| 06:12.39 | avu | !tell konr abour confmiss |
| 06:12.42 | vargadanis | let's make it a pit more complex... is it possible to download many diff's (patches) and then unite them in a single file? and if i get collisions I can resolve them manually? |
| 06:12.54 | magdalene | takes her antique tech and settles further back into the #debian_fern foilage, leaving behind several herbivore snares |
| 06:13.33 | avu | !tell konr about confmiss |
| 06:13.35 | avu | (oops) |
| 06:13.51 | vargadanis | tell me too about confmiss O_o |
| 06:14.13 | avu | !tell vargadanis about msg the bot |
| 06:14.13 | avu | :) |
| 06:15.05 | vargadanis | now that worked :) |
| 06:15.10 | vargadanis | i'll try that :) |
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| 06:16.08 | konr | wow, interesting... |
| 06:16.19 | vargadanis | wooo :) I luv this |
| 06:16.23 | konr | is the aptitude command perhaps outdated, however? |
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| 06:16.34 | avu | no |
| 06:16.34 | vargadanis | damn I always feel like a noob when i am on IRC O_o |
| 06:16.35 | konr | it skipped the replacing part |
| 06:16.38 | Shtl | %how i can close or release the already opened TCP port???? |
| 06:16.51 | Shtl | how i can close or release the already opened TCP port???? |
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| 06:17.02 | vargadanis | we got it for the first time |
| 06:17.08 | vargadanis | kill the deamon lisening on it |
| 06:17.12 | DarwinSurvivor | BillyCrook_: you mentioned ebtables, what is that and how do i check if it's installed? |
| 06:17.16 | |racecar56| | how do i fix this: "Error requesting name, org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied: Connection ":1.20" is not allowed to own the service "org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerInfo" due to security policies in the configuration file" |
| 06:17.44 | BillyCrook_ | DarwinSurvivor: `which ebtables` |
| 06:17.55 | BillyCrook_ | and for reading about it, install it and man ebtables |
| 06:18.13 | Shtl | vargadanis: deamon is showng as unknown |
| 06:18.22 | DarwinSurvivor | BillyCrook_: if it's not installed, i don't really care (i'm just worrying it may be installed and causing my problem) |
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| 06:18.23 | BillyCrook_ | if the which command says its not found, then its not installed |
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| 06:18.47 | DarwinSurvivor | BillyCrook_: hmm, which ebtables returned nothing. Another dead end i guess :( |
| 06:18.51 | vargadanis | Shtl, ps -u root -> you got the pid... kill $PID |
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| 06:18.59 | BillyCrook_ | it is exceptionally rare, but can be used to create weird things interfering with arp and layer2 networking |
| 06:19.20 | vargadanis | Shtl, netstat -nlp I think.. list the apps listening on TCP |
| 06:19.23 | BillyCrook_ | DarwinSurvivor: really really saturated asymetic network links can cause that behavior |
| 06:19.33 | DarwinSurvivor | BillyCrook_: would that be a router problem? |
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| 06:20.06 | BillyCrook_ | DarwinSurvivor: could. especially check that the wan port is 100mbps if your internet service is more than 10mbps |
| 06:20.19 | BillyCrook_ | and pause your torrents for a moment for chrissake |
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| 06:21.18 | DarwinSurvivor | BillyCrook_: no torrents loaded (on any machine on the network) |
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| 06:21.42 | DarwinSurvivor | BillyCrook_: i'll try rebooting the server and the router, but i've had the same problem on other networks (same server), so i doubt that's the problem |
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| 06:24.21 | magdalene | shtl: shutdown -now restart? |
| 06:24.40 | magdalene | damn, am I lagged?? |
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| 06:32.55 | Shtl | magdalene: wats that? |
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| 06:33.39 | vargadanis | restarts your system |
| 06:34.40 | Shtl | yes it has restarted??? |
| 06:36.38 | vargadanis | is it still there? |
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| 06:36.53 | vargadanis | the the app that binds itself to port |
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| 06:37.30 | vargadanis | afk 30 mins... after that i can help you trace it |
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| 06:39.37 | BillyCrook_ | if booting fails, and you get dumped out into the initramfs, and you think you found and fixed the problem, what's the command to try booting again? |
| 06:39.54 | BillyCrook_ | (to re-run the scripts in the initramfs that do the boot |
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| 06:45.11 | nachos | whats something like kermit that is free? |
| 06:45.49 | Shtl | vargadanis: what is happening is, a web based java application is running on tomcat5.5 which is inturn running on 8085, so when the system restrts, and if i run the java application it says the 8085 port is already in use |
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| 06:46.45 | Shtl | so how to make use of the same port??? |
| 06:47.55 | BillyCrook_ | how do you continue with the debian boot process in the initramfs after making a change in the initramfs to fix something that was causing it to fail earlier |
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| 07:04.03 | simonrvn | Shtl: different ip, same port. make sure they don't try to bind to all interfaces. |
| 07:05.03 | Shtl | same ip and same port, its web based apps i simply just invike it through browser |
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| 07:08.25 | thrashold | Hello. I'm trying to upgrade lenny to sid. apt-get dist-upgrade fails with this error: http://pastebin.com/m29232d2e |
| 07:08.29 | thrashold | Can anyone give any suggestions? |
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| 07:10.03 | dmoerner | thrashold: did you do what it askes you? |
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| 07:11.18 | thrashold | MODULES is most |
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| 07:12.04 | FuriousRage | how long does it usually take for the repos to get the latest sun java package? (in this case Java 6 update 15 or never)? all info i find about it only points to the long way to download some bin to run make-jpkg ect. |
| 07:12.49 | g00se | Is there a good, official security mirror? Am having problems with security.debian.org |
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| 07:15.03 | g00se | FuriousRage: You'd probably have to ask the maintainers and offer to help if necessary |
| 07:16.27 | FuriousRage | g00se: im quite new to linux even if i have run it on and off since 2002 or there about, so offering help on that part seems pointless to me since i still use tons of guides to accomplish stuff :D and i just wondered how long it usually take, im currently run java 6 update 12 which seems to be "bad" because of some xml bug |
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| 07:18.38 | thrashold | Ah, it wasn't most, I was looking in the wrong file. dmoerner, yup, doing what it said fixed it :) |
| 07:18.45 | thrashold | Thanks |
| 07:20.08 | dmoerner | thrashold: well i'm glad i inspired you :) |
| 07:23.08 | g00se | FuriousRage: If it's that important you could probably abandon the package and install it directly |
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| 07:24.06 | FuriousRage | g00se: i have tried, but i cant seem to find nor install that make-jpkg program, so it always fails at that point :D |
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| 07:27.43 | kraut | moin |
| 07:27.52 | craigevil | FuriousRage: aptitude install sun-java6-jdk (jre etc) $ apt-cache policy sun-java6-jre |
| 07:27.54 | craigevil | sun-java6-jre: Installed: 6-15-1 |
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| 07:28.21 | FuriousRage | craigevil: mine says: Installed: 6-12-1 Candidate: 6-12-1 |
| 07:29.09 | craigevil | 6-12-1 is all that stable has, you would have to use testing to get 6-14 or sid to get 6-15 |
| 07:29.37 | FuriousRage | what package to i need to install to get "make-jpkg"? |
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| 07:30.32 | craigevil | FuriousRage: aptitude install java-package |
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| 07:33.34 | FuriousRage | craigevil: thanks, now i gotta solve why it doesnt create the .deb :d |
| 07:34.02 | craigevil | FuriousRage: http://wiki.debian.org/JavaPackage |
| 07:34.25 | FuriousRage | i have done that fakeroot make-jpkg but it doesnt output a .deb |
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| 07:35.18 | SeReF | s.a |
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| 07:36.50 | FuriousRage | craigevili: this is what it outputs: http://paste.debian.net/44128/ |
| 07:36.57 | g00se | FuriousRage: How were you running make-jpkg without java-package installed? |
| 07:37.14 | FuriousRage | g00se: i just installed java-package a few minutes ago |
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| 07:39.14 | craigevil | FuriousRage: take a look at http://www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/java.jspx |
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| 07:43.53 | g00se | FuriousRage: You renamed the bin file? |
| 07:44.46 | FuriousRage | g00se: when i downloaded it using wget i got its filename plus the part of the download url containing ? and = ect in it, but maybe the download was damage during download so now im downloading it using this computer and gonna ftp it over to my server to see if it works |
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| 07:47.07 | FuriousRage | hmm nope, still doesnt outputs a deb ;/ |
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| 07:48.12 | g00se | FuriousRage: The current size of the jre is 20857148 |
| 07:48.23 | FuriousRage | i just downloaded the 80MB jdk |
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| 07:52.49 | FuriousRage | and it doesnt seem to throw any error either ;/ |
| 07:53.14 | g00se | FuriousRage: That seems to be 81790339 |
| 07:53.39 | FuriousRage | yep, thats the size of the jdk binary i have |
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| 07:54.03 | g00se | FuriousRage: It's probably OK then. Best of luck - gotta go |
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| 08:23.03 | xtraeme | Hey |
| 08:23.31 | xtraeme | do anyone know how to know what packages are marked as "essential" in debian? I don't have it installed, is there any way to know it without installing? |
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| 08:24.08 | xtraeme | I just need the list of all them |
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| 08:25.33 | xtraeme | anyone? |
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| 08:26.16 | xtraeme | by essential I mean the property used in the control file |
| 08:26.42 | vargadanis | debootstrap |
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| 08:27.04 | vargadanis | chk out the script and it will tell you what you need for a very very barebone debian install |
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| 08:27.23 | xtraeme | vargadanis: I know about it, but I only want to know the list |
| 08:27.34 | vargadanis | it's in the script |
| 08:27.37 | xtraeme | and only "essential" pkgs, not all them |
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| 08:27.47 | vargadanis | what do you mean by essential? |
| 08:27.54 | vargadanis | cause it's only there kernel |
| 08:27.58 | xtraeme | 10:28 < xtraeme> by essential I mean the property used in the control file |
| 08:28.22 | vargadanis | what do you mean by the property used in the control file? |
| 08:28.34 | xtraeme | a binary pkg contains debian/control file which defines the Essential property |
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| 08:28.51 | vargadanis | ohh the dependencies? |
| 08:28.55 | xtraeme | yes |
| 08:29.13 | vargadanis | gush... you can get the dependencies of a package by using dpkg |
| 08:29.17 | vargadanis | i am not sure tho how :S |
| 08:29.38 | vargadanis | or you can check out the packages.debian.org site and look for the package |
| 08:29.44 | vargadanis | that site will list the dependencies |
| 08:29.51 | xtraeme | heh, ok. Well, I think you aren't understanding what I say... |
| 08:29.53 | xtraeme | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-binary.html |
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| 08:30.01 | xtraeme | look at 3.8 |
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| 08:30.29 | ONE_PATE | how to search packages with apt-get? |
| 08:30.31 | vargadanis | http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-debian-package-management-cheat-sheet.html |
| 08:30.40 | xtraeme | ONE_PATE: apt-cache search foo |
| 08:30.48 | xtraeme | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Essential |
| 08:30.51 | xtraeme | this one |
| 08:30.56 | ONE_PATE | thx |
| 08:31.13 | xtraeme | I don't have debian installed, that's why I'm asking |
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| 08:31.37 | morphex | when can one expect the debian kernels to get patched for the recent root-access exploit? |
| 08:31.42 | xtraeme | if someone knows a way to know all pkgs with the Essential boolean enabled |
| 08:31.44 | vargadanis | xtraeme, if you wanna install a package through aptitude or apt-get you just issue: apt-get install packagename |
| 08:31.53 | vargadanis | this will install the pacakges needed |
| 08:32.06 | ONE_PATE | whats the package name of apache server |
| 08:32.24 | xtraeme | vargadanis: yes, I know... but that's not what I'm asking. |
| 08:32.28 | vargadanis | gotcha |
| 08:32.32 | vargadanis | i finally understood what you mean |
| 08:32.44 | vargadanis | and the answer is: I have no friggin clue O_o |
| 08:32.54 | xtraeme | ok :-) |
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| 08:33.33 | xtraeme | vargadanis: packages with the Essential property cannot be removed, only replaced. |
| 08:33.48 | xtraeme | and I need to know the list of all them |
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| 08:34.30 | xtraeme | some examples are libc, sh, and others... |
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| 08:34.52 | craigevil | its required not essential> Priority: required |
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| 08:35.13 | xtraeme | no, Priority is just another thing |
| 08:35.41 | xtraeme | Priority is used for the dependency sorting algorithms |
| 08:36.58 | kchr | xtraeme, where do you see the "essential" tag/flag? |
| 08:37.15 | xtraeme | apt-cache show foo |
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| 08:37.40 | xtraeme | try with libc6 or coreutils |
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| 08:38.18 | kchr | just tried with libc6, i do not see anything matching "essential". |
| 08:38.45 | xtraeme | tried with grep -i? |
| 08:38.47 | craigevil | The base system consists of all those packages with priority required or important. Many of them will be tagged essential (see below). |
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| 08:39.25 | vargadanis | xtraeme, i tried it too |
| 08:39.30 | craigevil | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Essential |
| 08:39.32 | vargadanis | i can't see essential among tags |
| 08:40.25 | xtraeme | hmm. Is Essential obsolete now or something? |
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| 08:40.37 | xtraeme | I remember seeing it in a few packages... |
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| 08:42.33 | craigevil | xtraeme: some packages still show essential> Package: bash Essential: yes Priority: required |
| 08:42.41 | xtraeme | ah! see |
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| 08:42.58 | xtraeme | craigevil: could you please show me a list with all them? |
| 08:43.10 | craigevil | havent a clue what one have that flag |
| 08:43.29 | craigevil | libc6 doesnt, bash does |
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| 08:43.56 | humbolto | I have 4 Intel Gbit NICs assigned to a bridge, in order to simulate a switch in my server and that way provide a dedicated 1Gbit link from the server to each client. |
| 08:44.19 | craigevil | base-files does, debianutils does |
| 08:44.24 | humbolto | I am having trouble with MDI-X autonegotiation however. |
| 08:44.26 | rudi_s | xtraeme: aptitude search '~E' for a list of all essential packages. |
| 08:44.33 | xtraeme | strange that libc6 is not marked as essential... |
| 08:44.44 | humbolto | How can I make link autonegotiation work better? |
| 08:44.53 | xtraeme | rudi_s: thx! |
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| 08:45.11 | rudi_s | np |
| 08:46.15 | xtraeme | how is it that libc is not marked as essential? theoretically you can't remove it, isn't it? |
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| 08:48.53 | craigevil | xtraeme: yes thats weird but "bash" predepends on libc6 |
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| 08:49.37 | xtraeme | ah ok |
| 08:49.56 | xtraeme | thx * |
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| 08:52.10 | humbolto | how can I make settings changed with ethtool persistent even when I reboot? |
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| 08:52.58 | vargadanis | to an ethernet intarface? |
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| 08:53.21 | vargadanis | to set IP/MAC/NETMASK etc for an interface you need to edit the /etc/networks/interfaces file |
| 08:53.28 | vargadanis | for more info: man interfaces |
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| 08:55.50 | humbolto | vargadanis: settings set with ethtool not ifconfig. |
| 08:56.12 | humbolto | vargadanis: ergo, link speed, duplex, autonegotiation |
| 08:56.39 | vargadanis | ohh... i didn't know about that... <- noobie here O_o |
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| 08:58.15 | pozic | Which program can pretty print an XML file? |
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| 08:59.38 | vargadanis | vim :) :syntax on |
| 08:59.59 | pozic | vargadanis: I mean for use in a script. |
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| 09:00.50 | vargadanis | ahm... you want sytax highlighting? i might show once again my noobishness O_o |
| 09:01.37 | pozic | vargadanis: no, just indent the XML decently given an XML file which is just on one line. |
| 09:02.00 | vargadanis | pozic, ohh... sorry dunno O_o |
| 09:03.13 | themill | xmllint --format |
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| 09:21.33 | Bogdar | Hello! How can I get list of packages which was installed from unstable ? |
| 09:22.07 | Bogdar | I have 'lenny' server with some packages from unstable |
| 09:22.20 | cast | hey nice, the aptitude man page is fixed :) |
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| 09:24.11 | cast | http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html see ?archive |
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| 09:25.42 | CoolCold | hello |
| 09:26.10 | CoolCold | guys, what is CHGPASSWD ? man says it changes group passwords in batch mode, but what is 'group password' ? |
| 09:26.50 | cast | Bogdar: you'll also want ~i, to get installed, too |
| 09:27.01 | cast | CoolCold: a legacy thing no one uses anymore |
| 09:27.29 | cast | CoolCold: there used to be a time where groups had passwords, that everyone shared, needless to say it ended up not being a good plan |
| 09:28.02 | CoolCold | oh |
| 09:28.04 | CoolCold | okay |
| 09:28.21 | CoolCold | i just need to add 3 users on all machines..so newusers will be ok i guess |
| 09:29.42 | cast | perhaps some centralized method of authentication would be nice |
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| 09:30.51 | CoolCold | well, it may |
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| 09:36.23 | crazyfrog | when i installed xen kernel,i can not start graphic login.what is the problem? |
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| 09:36.48 | cast | crazyfrog: video driver, i imagine. what does the log say? |
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| 09:38.15 | jimcooncat | looking for a live-PXE setup for disk checking and partitioning prior to running PXE debian installer. Any projects I can check out that does this? |
| 09:40.05 | crazyfrog | cast:but when i use the normal kernel boot,it can work fine.do you mean that xen kernel uses special video driver? |
| 09:40.49 | cast | i suspect it needs a xen aware video driver, |
| 09:42.47 | crazyfrog | cast:thanks,now i will check the log |
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| 09:54.31 | fishsponge | hey people - where can i find the "mailutil" command? i installed the "mailutils" package, but i still don't have the "mailutil" command... any suggestions? |
| 09:54.38 | fishsponge | i need it to do my mbox to maildir conversion... |
| 09:55.46 | cast | apt-file will let you search for bin/mailutil, alternative http://packages.debian.org |
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| 10:01.33 | schgidoo | can anybody help me to mount nas under debian? |
| 10:01.44 | cast | maybe. |
| 10:01.52 | cast | what protocol does your NAS use? |
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| 10:03.32 | schgidoo | cast: may i pm u? |
| 10:03.38 | cast | nope. |
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| 10:05.00 | schgidoo | it's not mine cast... i don't work with debian... i try to help a friend how don't know if he mount it |
| 10:05.08 | schgidoo | he say tcp/ip |
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| 10:06.40 | cast | and what protocol ontop of tcp/ip? |
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| 10:08.27 | schgidoo | how he can check it? |
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| 10:08.28 | cast | by reading |
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| 10:08.57 | cast | normally on the packaging, or the spec sheet |
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| 10:09.27 | meglo | so does the debian community like man or info pages |
| 10:09.50 | cast | either or |
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| 10:10.02 | meglo | there can only be one |
| 10:10.05 | zhxk | abrotman is gone? |
| 10:10.06 | meglo | online documentation system |
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| 10:12.38 | schgidoo | he search spec sheet ^^ |
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| 10:14.14 | schgidoo | * Microsoft Network (CIFS/SMB) |
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| 10:14.26 | cast | is NFS listed? |
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| 10:16.36 | schgidoo | when he try cifs he get an error msg: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.1.36, |
| 10:16.36 | schgidoo | missing codepage or helper program, or other error |
| 10:16.36 | schgidoo | (for several filesystems (e.g. nfs, cifs) you might |
| 10:16.36 | schgidoo | need a /sbin/mount.<type> helper program) |
| 10:16.36 | schgidoo | In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try |
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| 10:16.58 | schgidoo | sry :( |
| 10:17.25 | cast | i have nfi how to use windows file sharing. |
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| 10:19.34 | schgidoo | hmm |
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| 10:22.33 | joltcan | schgidoo: tried smbmount? |
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| 10:23.04 | schgidoo | he say jeah... but get same error msg |
| 10:23.12 | joltcan | have he installed smbfs? |
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| 10:24.18 | Shtl | through ssh is it possible to connect to windows machine??? |
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| 10:24.30 | petemc | if the windows machine has a sshd running |
| 10:24.31 | themill | schgidoo: try using smbclient first. |
| 10:24.38 | cast | sure, thats not a debian question though |
| 10:24.49 | Shtl | i know |
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| 10:25.45 | FuriousRage | Shtl: you can use vnc, remote desktop, team viewer, ssh to connect to a windows machine in various ways, check in ##Windows for more help on thatr. |
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| 10:26.38 | telmich | good morning |
| 10:26.48 | schgidoo | seems not joltcan |
| 10:26.59 | telmich | any debian dev in here who already fixed the security hole in the current linux kernel? |
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| 10:27.20 | schgidoo | mount: unknown filesystem type 'smbfs' |
| 10:27.40 | joltcan | schgidoo: try smbclient first |
| 10:27.51 | petemc | also ensure the smbfs package is installed |
| 10:28.48 | Shtl | FuriousRage: whats the vnc command to contect?? |
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| 10:29.17 | FuriousRage | Shtl: you first need to intall a vnc server on the remote machine and a viewer on the local one |
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| 10:29.43 | Shtl | ok ok |
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| 10:32.06 | schgidoo | ok i tell him joltcan... thanks :) |
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| 10:34.30 | lari | Greetings. |
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| 10:34.52 | lari | I seem to have lost my LVM. this creates a vaccuum. |
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| 10:35.55 | cast | lari: redownload it? |
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| 10:36.28 | lari | hurr. what i meant to say is, i lost the logical volume somewhere |
| 10:36.31 | lari | well, i didn't |
| 10:36.47 | lari | but the server did. now says that it can't find the storage volume |
| 10:37.16 | cast | does pvscan/vgscan/lvscan find it? |
| 10:37.34 | lari | nope |
| 10:37.50 | cast | and how did you lose it? |
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| 10:38.10 | lari | server crashed for unknown reasons, tried everything |
| 10:38.14 | lari | still responded to ping |
| 10:38.16 | lari | but nothing else |
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| 10:38.25 | cast | hmm |
| 10:38.31 | cast | and the logs reported anything? |
| 10:38.39 | lari | everything as in had a physical console aswell which i tried to fiddle with |
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| 10:39.17 | lari | bit of a paste: Reading all physical volumes. This may take a while... |
| 10:39.17 | lari | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:39.17 | lari | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:39.17 | lari | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:39.17 | lari | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:39.27 | lari | fine. flood it is |
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| 10:40.24 | cast | hmm, annoying. i'd pull out the backup rather than fuss around, but it might be an interesting exercise in LVM recovery |
| 10:40.25 | thrashold | Can anyone point me to some resource where I can read enough about the format of a .deb file, so that I can edit the .deb file and change the architecture? |
| 10:40.35 | cast | !nmg |
| 10:40.35 | dpkg | The New Maintainer's Guide (http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/), Developer's Reference and Policy document how packages should be made and how they should interact with each other. See also http://www.debian.org/devel/ or ask me about <package basics>, <mentors> and <mg>. |
| 10:40.49 | lari | Cast, yeah. well the backup is also somehow interestingly missing |
| 10:40.55 | lari | i have no idea how that happened |
| 10:41.01 | cast | coughs |
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| 10:41.14 | lari | the external drive apparently broke in a thunderstorm we recently had |
| 10:41.40 | cast | shame tapes are so expensive |
| 10:41.57 | lari | haha. last log entry before crash: Aug 13 11:33:47 debian nagios3: HOST ALERT: localhost;DOWN;SOFT;1;(Host Check Timed Out) |
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| 10:43.01 | fireba11 | haah |
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| 10:43.15 | lari | cast: this is awesome. never had to work this hard to get my porn back before |
| 10:43.28 | fireba11 | ^^! |
| 10:43.37 | lari | i wish it only was porn. |
| 10:43.41 | lari | goddamnit |
| 10:43.47 | lari | how often do both backups fail |
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| 10:43.54 | lari | HOW OFTEN DOES THAT HAPPEN TO YOU :/ |
| 10:43.59 | cast | you only have one |
| 10:44.10 | cast | and this happens pretty often :P |
| 10:44.11 | lari | this is the backup server |
| 10:44.20 | lari | which has backup drives for it's backup |
| 10:44.26 | lari | and the backups are now broken |
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| 10:44.44 | cast | person loses files; discovers backups were duds |
| 10:45.17 | fireba11 | that's why i check one part of the backup every month and try a restore of it |
| 10:45.37 | lari | everything was working fine until yesterday |
| 10:45.41 | lari | the backups ran ok |
| 10:45.43 | lari | the check was ok |
| 10:45.48 | lari | aaaand then nothing |
| 10:46.06 | cast | wish tape drives were cheaper :< |
| 10:46.17 | lari | I wish i could afford more drives |
| 10:46.25 | cast | nah, drives are delicate |
| 10:46.30 | lari | delicate, yes |
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| 10:46.34 | lari | but if you have a hundred of them |
| 10:46.40 | lari | it's less likely that all of them fail |
| 10:46.44 | cast | big lightening bolt, all electronics fried in all of them at once |
| 10:47.02 | thrashold | How to extract a deb, and them archive it back? |
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| 10:47.15 | lari | Cast: yes, but that's why they're not all in the same place |
| 10:47.46 | cast | we tried it your way, and look where we ended up! |
| 10:48.01 | fireba11 | lari: if you're serious about backup you need some off-site storage at least in another building. preferably in a safe |
| 10:48.11 | lari | wtf. |
| 10:48.20 | lari | pvscan decided to find the drives ? |
| 10:48.29 | lari | cast: arr. |
| 10:48.43 | lari | fireba11 i know. i can't afford that though :D |
| 10:49.06 | fireba11 | cast: our emergency abckup is in the bank vault. they charge 70 bucks per year ^^ |
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| 10:49.44 | lari | hm. how do i figure out what it means by the missing volume |
| 10:50.34 | cast | since a cassette player is 1/20th the price of a tape drive, i feel tapedrive folks may be ripping me off |
| 10:51.02 | lari | :D |
| 10:51.06 | lari | hahahaha |
| 10:51.20 | cast | anyone used cassettes for digital data? |
| 10:51.22 | lari | you can buy a tape2pc drive for less |
| 10:51.26 | lari | and then use it for digital data |
| 10:51.38 | lari | also, there at least used to be a 5.25" drive which took cassettes |
| 10:51.42 | lari | and you could store files on it |
| 10:51.45 | cast | hmm, neat |
| 10:51.48 | lari | yeah |
| 10:51.53 | cast | how many mb? |
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| 10:52.09 | lari | I have no idea, never owned one |
| 10:52.12 | lari | always wanted one though |
| 10:52.29 | lari | I mean, what's more awesome than going: "Wanna play digger?" |
| 10:53.04 | lari | then whipping out a cassette labeled "DIGGER" containing dosbox and the original digger, whipping it in, and starting to play the game. |
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| 10:53.32 | lari | hmm. |
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| 10:54.50 | lari | the lvm backup files are surprisingly helpful |
| 10:55.01 | petemc | its surprising? |
| 10:55.27 | lari | i thought that they'd be incomprehensible binary fuzz |
| 10:55.30 | lari | they weren't |
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| 10:56.03 | lari | then again, i forgot i wasn't working with 2k8 server |
| 10:56.13 | petemc | oh, i dont much bother reading them, just use them with vgcfgrestore |
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| 10:57.50 | lari | how do i tell it that i've found the disk it wants, even though it can't recognize it having the right UUID |
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| 11:08.09 | hareldvd | after installing flash player v 10.0.32.18 from: http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/thankyou/?installer=Flash_Player_10_for_Linux_(.deb) in FF add ons plugin the version stamp is still 9.0.r999. How can I check if FF uses the right version? |
| 11:08.25 | fireba11 | http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Klage-gegen-Lenovo-wegen-Microsoft-Steuer--/meldung/143530 |
| 11:08.28 | fireba11 | hummm |
| 11:08.36 | fireba11 | ups, wrong window |
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| 11:09.39 | PrimoTurbo | Does anyone work for Google? Any clue if any of these are real screenshots of Google Chrome OS - http://ubuntucorner.blogspot.com/2009/08/google-chrome-os-screenshots.html |
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| 11:13.28 | Zusez | Hi :) I got a general question. If i connect via ssh to an vRoot-Server and start my IRC Client there...is it still a Security risk for the company / do i crack holes in our net? |
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| 11:15.20 | kornholi | depends on the client's security ;) |
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| 11:16.46 | lari | cast: hey, got any idea on how to start up a logical volume without having all the physical volumes in the group present? |
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| 11:17.32 | NantoRokuseiken | hi any programs such as MathType for linux? i want to be able to write my mathematical functions easily |
| 11:18.01 | Guerin | LaTeX |
| 11:18.52 | Zusez | kornholi: What do you mean exactly? The vRoot is an minimal Debian5.0, the Client here in the company is an minimal ArchLinux... |
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| 11:20.15 | kornholi | i meant the irc client's security (irssi?) |
| 11:21.08 | Zusez | kornholi: I want to try irssi & weechat. Havent tried both before.. |
| 11:21.26 | kornholi | do irssi. im using it atm |
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| 11:21.41 | kornholi | sshing to a remote server, running irssi via screen for weeks |
| 11:21.49 | kornholi | lots of people do so |
| 11:22.57 | Zusez | Ok..thanks for the infos :) |
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| 11:28.39 | schgidoo | cu there... thx for help |
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| 11:29.17 | [Ese] | hi |
| 11:29.28 | [Ese] | I'm trying to get my gamepad to work in debian |
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| 11:30.08 | [Ese] | i downloaded this joy2key app that translate well, the gampad to keyboard stroke for non gamepads game |
| 11:30.20 | cast | lari: no, if it's not a mirror i think you might be up shit creek |
| 11:30.25 | gilesw | heya all |
| 11:30.35 | [Ese] | the thing is joy2key is opening /dev/js0 |
| 11:30.36 | gilesw | is there a way to get dh_make to not prompt you? |
| 11:30.46 | [Ese] | but it ask if my gamepad is conected |
| 11:30.51 | [Ese] | it's a usb gamepad |
| 11:31.00 | [Ese] | if I do lsusb it is listed |
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| 11:31.41 | datenritter | hmm, is there an easy way to reinstall all packages? i have a damaged filesystem and really don't want to give up... |
| 11:31.57 | datenritter | sth like aptitude --reinstall install all ? ;) |
| 11:32.12 | datenritter | i could get the dpkg-selections and feed that into aptitude... |
| 11:32.20 | datenritter | (on the command line) |
| 11:32.30 | cast | !reinstall |
| 11:32.30 | dpkg | it has been said that reinstall is aptitude reinstall '~i' ; or COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt , then later, dpkg --set-selections < my_packages.txt && apt-get install . See also <aptitude clone> <debian clone> |
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| 11:33.07 | datenritter | whohoo |
| 11:33.13 | kornholi | <3 dpkg |
| 11:33.23 | datenritter | dpkg++ |
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| 11:35.36 | lari | f u c k y e a h |
| 11:35.38 | lari | ! |
| 11:36.00 | lari | i got it to work :D just removed the broken drive and it's lv's from the vg, and it werks |
| 11:36.01 | lari | woo |
| 11:36.13 | lari | now i just need to install a new disk for backups |
| 11:36.18 | lari | urgh |
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| 11:53.27 | ikanobori | Hello, how do I turn off the 'write' command? |
| 11:53.49 | abrotman | ikanobori: so people can't write to you ? |
| 11:53.55 | ikanobori | abrotman: Yes. |
| 11:54.06 | abrotman | man mesg |
| 11:54.06 | ikanobori | Remove it from /usr/bin? Chmod it to my user? |
| 11:54.12 | ikanobori | That's better. |
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| 11:55.14 | abrotman | ikanobori: uhm .. i didn't say that .. if you're going to be lazy .. why even ask here? |
| 11:55.41 | ikanobori | abrotman: Because I didn't want to do either of those. |
| 11:55.47 | ikanobori | This is the 'nice' solution :-) |
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| 12:07.02 | ^shark_ | is there any open source software to protect windows machines against trojans, spyware, and rootkits |
| 12:07.21 | cast | yeah, there is |
| 12:07.39 | cast | its called don't go on the internet or transfer any files onto it |
| 12:07.49 | ^shark_ | cast: get serious |
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| 12:08.56 | cast | ^shark_: use debian, problem solved. |
| 12:09.14 | ^shark_ | cast: i use debian lenny as my gateway server |
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| 12:09.41 | abrotman | clamav has a windows version |
| 12:10.06 | ^shark_ | abrotman: ok i wll check it out, thanks |
| 12:10.10 | abrotman | ^shark_: you want to pass every one through a proxy to control their traffic ? |
| 12:10.17 | kooll | clamav won't protect windows well enough. no 'realtime' scans last time I checked |
| 12:10.19 | vargadanis | ^shark_, try avg antivirus |
| 12:10.28 | vargadanis | i think you can even scan windows systems remotely with it |
| 12:10.29 | cast | palms face |
| 12:10.31 | abrotman | vargadanis: he said open source |
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| 12:10.41 | ^shark_ | abrotman: i have squid3 doing that, now i want to protect them against security thefts |
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| 12:10.53 | vargadanis | so what? i believe many people confuse open source with 'free' |
| 12:10.56 | abrotman | ^shark_: good luck! |
| 12:11.03 | abrotman | vargadanis: the asker said open source .. not me |
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| 12:11.47 | vargadanis | well the lack of such software for linux proves one thing: no real need for one? |
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| 12:12.37 | abrotman | yes .. because there's no open source software for platforms other than linux ... |
| 12:12.44 | cast | if you have everything sitting in a trusted software repo, and don't teach users google+downloading+executing is *the* way to install software, most problems are solved imho |
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| 12:16.15 | vargadanis | http://www.openantivirus.org/ |
| 12:16.27 | vargadanis | this is one i found |
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| 12:18.03 | abrotman | now you just have to compile it ? |
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| 12:19.17 | keith4 | wtf |
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| 12:21.07 | vargadanis | well it seems that the latest virus db was released in 2k4 so ehm.. |
| 12:21.14 | vargadanis | not so up-to-date O_o |
| 12:21.58 | keith4 | "Please DO NOT use ScannerDaemon/VirusHammer as your sole virus protection at all!" |
| 12:22.07 | keith4 | always reassuring |
| 12:22.15 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | < hugs abrotman |
| 12:22.20 | keith4 | I guess it's better than nothing, though |
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| 12:23.34 | cast | nothing would run faster |
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| 12:24.00 | keith4 | true. and clamwin isn't absolutely worthless |
| 12:24.29 | keith4 | also, AVG is only free for personal use |
| 12:24.32 | cast | every now and against we get the ironic situation where a AV/firewall provides a means to a remote root |
| 12:24.38 | cast | s/against/again |
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| 12:26.21 | vargadanis | Some unofficial debs for Debian woody can be grabbed |
| 12:26.25 | vargadanis | that's oldschool |
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| 12:27.33 | alien | hello, is debian still vulnerable to the new kernel root exploit? |
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| 12:28.38 | keith4 | "still"? |
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| 12:28.44 | abrotman | keith4: and now it's a freaking hog .. almost as bad as symantec/norton |
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| 12:29.00 | abrotman | alien: http://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_294 |
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| 12:29.16 | keith4 | abrotman: they have to sell new hardware *somehow* :-P |
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| 12:31.29 | alien | abrotman: that's not a proper fix :p |
| 12:31.42 | abrotman | alien: but it "solves" the issue |
| 12:31.59 | abrotman | alien: to answer your question, yes, the issue still exists officially ... |
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| 12:44.30 | cr3rzemjest | what should i install to compile things? i remember there was something like g++-base etc, that would install me 'make'/'automake', and other stuff |
| 12:44.42 | asg | cr3rzemjest: build-essential |
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| 12:44.50 | cr3rzemjest | asg: thx |
| 12:44.56 | cast | stow is good, too |
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| 12:45.32 | TheCount | hello! |
| 12:45.45 | TheCount | how do I find out what make-kpkg commandline was used to create a specific kernel? |
| 12:45.59 | TheCount | i'm trying to patch my linux-image-2.6.26-2-vserver-amd64 |
| 12:46.14 | binB4SH | Hi I tried to build a package (imagemagick) using pbuilder but I got this error |
| 12:46.17 | binB4SH | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 12:46.17 | binB4SH | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:46.24 | binB4SH | how to solve this? thx 4 help |
| 12:46.40 | TheCount | binB4SH: apt-get install liblqr-1-0-dev |
| 12:46.55 | TheCount | binB4SH: READ the error messages ;) they MAY make sense ;) |
| 12:47.10 | binB4SH | I have it installed TheCount |
| 12:47.15 | binB4SH | that's the problem ;) |
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| 12:49.04 | binB4SH | I get the same for libgraphviz-de |
| 12:49.09 | TheCount | binB4SH: you didn't tell us ;) and: you can't. it's a virtual package. what's the real package (supposedly) providing the virtual package? |
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| 12:49.56 | |RicharD| | hi to all |
| 12:50.03 | binB4SH | How do I find out TheCount? |
| 12:50.30 | |RicharD| | u have an problem with |
| 12:50.34 | |RicharD| | openvpn |
| 12:50.38 | |RicharD| | i have installed it on my vps |
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| 12:50.57 | |RicharD| | but into /etc/openvpn/ thereisn't server.conf |
| 12:51.01 | |RicharD| | where is it ? |
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| 12:52.36 | TheCount | binB4SH: dpkg -l liblqr\* |
| 12:53.00 | TheCount | |RicharD|: try dpkg -L openvpn |
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| 12:53.51 | |RicharD| | nothing |
| 12:53.53 | |RicharD| | there isn't :S |
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| 12:54.23 | binB4SH | and what to do with this output TheCount? |
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| 12:54.42 | TheCount | binB4SH: identify the package that _should_ help you, but doesn't |
| 12:54.45 | d34df00d | Hi! |
| 12:54.57 | TheCount | binB4SH: check whether it's descriptions says it provides the virtual package |
| 12:55.06 | d34df00d | Is there any kind of a build farm for Debian? |
| 12:55.16 | TheCount | hm. nobody helps with my make-kpkg problem? |
| 12:55.30 | TheCount | any idea how to use dpkg-buildpackage to just build one kernel flavour instead? |
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| 12:55.52 | d34df00d | I'm not a maintainer, so I'd like to find a publically available server, just like OpenSUSE build service for the OpenSUSE. |
| 12:56.00 | abrotman | |RicharD|: are you sure that's the server package ? |
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| 12:56.14 | |RicharD| | ? i have installed openvpn |
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| 12:56.50 | binB4SH | hmm |
| 12:57.23 | binB4SH | not very helpful imho ;) |
| 12:57.40 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:00.29 | |RicharD| | oky thanks |
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| 13:15.22 | bigwookie | I need Good Time intensive Terminal games! ( and please a little bit easyer than nethack= |
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| 13:25.15 | abrotman | bigwookie: enigma |
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| 13:27.29 | SerajewelKS | bigwookie: i used to play atc a lot |
| 13:28.06 | SerajewelKS | bigwookie: simple concept (so easy to learn) but the harder levels can be quite challenging |
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| 13:28.24 | bigwookie | abrotman: i'm sorry but this is not terminal |
| 13:28.31 | abrotman | oh .. sorry |
| 13:28.39 | abrotman | bigwookie: bsdgames ? |
| 13:28.50 | bigwookie | SerajewelKS: umm i don't understand it xD |
| 13:28.53 | bigwookie | abrotman: got them |
| 13:29.48 | bigwookie | SerajewelKS: and after it soundet very hard and mathematic i didn't dtried it |
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| 13:30.23 | bigwookie | sorry for my bad english |
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| 13:32.58 | abrotman | bigwookie: did you look in the games section ? |
| 13:33.22 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/stable/games/ |
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| 13:34.02 | SerajewelKS | bigwookie: it's an air traffic controller simulation |
| 13:34.09 | SerajewelKS | bigwookie: you have to land planes at airports |
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| 13:35.49 | Mick27 | hi |
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| 13:36.24 | Zesturian | What would be the best (and best performance) protocol to use for NAS? |
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| 13:36.57 | |RicharD| | how i can extrat an file with extension cnf.gz ? |
| 13:37.14 | abrotman | gunzip |
| 13:37.15 | racecar56 | |RicharD|: gunzip filename |
| 13:37.17 | abrotman | !grounding |
| 13:37.18 | dpkg | Before asking in here or on the debian-user mailing list, you should read the Installation Guide, or if you already have Debian installed, the Debian Reference. Ask me about <ig>, <reference>, <docs>, <manuals>, <fundamentals>, <newbiedoc>, <refcard>, <faq>, <unix lessons>, <general cli tutorial>. (e.g. in your IRC client, type /msg dpkg reference) |
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| 13:37.47 | |RicharD| | thanks;). |
| 13:38.12 | racecar56 | how come telnetd isn't working? i try to do 'telnet localhost' and it says the connection was refused, on this comp it's fine |
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| 13:38.39 | abrotman | racecar56: did you install/start telnetd ? |
| 13:38.44 | petemc | racecar56: do you have telnetd installed and started? and out of interest, why? |
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| 13:39.18 | racecar56 | abrotman petemc: yes i installed it, i even tried reinstalling it |
| 13:39.37 | justin | racecar56: why are you installing telnet? |
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| 13:40.39 | racecar56 | justin: well, if 'telnet localhost' works on this computer but not my other one, something's odd, this computer's telnetd was started the minute i installed telnetd |
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| 13:41.34 | SerajewelKS | racecar56: it's normal for services to start after installing them |
| 13:42.16 | SerajewelKS | racecar56: there are two probable causes here: (1) you have some firewall on or between the two boxen that is blocking telnet or (2) telnetd is only listening on the lo interface, which is probably the case |
| 13:42.18 | abrotman | though pretty sure telnetd runs from inetd.conf .. |
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| 13:42.52 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: depends on the telnetd i suppose... either way, the postinst script would ping inetd to reload |
| 13:43.03 | abrotman | SIGHUP you mean ? |
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| 13:43.21 | SerajewelKS | or whatever inetd uses sure :) |
| 13:43.22 | sly007 | hello, my soud output is the pc speaker, how do I enable the real speakers? |
| 13:43.34 | SerajewelKS | (i've seen services use USR1 to trigger a reload of conf) |
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| 13:44.19 | zaleth | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:44.23 | Dalvion | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 13:44.29 | Dalvion | ;) |
| 13:44.38 | abrotman | please go play somewhere else |
| 13:44.40 | SerajewelKS | you forgot one of the numbers |
| 13:44.42 | racecar56 | sly007: lol i hated it when my laptop was beeping so loud on the login screen and some other stuff, also you should see if dpkg can help |
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| 13:44.56 | racecar56 | !alsa-checklist sly007 |
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| 13:45.07 | racecar56 | !alsa-checklist > sly007 |
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| 13:45.08 | Dalvion | aww |
| 13:45.12 | SerajewelKS | i thought phone numbers had seven digits |
| 13:45.14 | Dalvion | no fun |
| 13:45.17 | abrotman | just drop it |
| 13:45.26 | Dalvion | drops abrotman |
| 13:45.27 | sly007 | racecar56: all my alsa modules are loaded |
| 13:45.29 | Dalvion | whoops |
| 13:45.34 | Dalvion | ahahahahhehheehheh |
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| 13:45.48 | racecar56 | sly007: you are in group audio, right? |
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| 13:47.29 | sly007 | racecar56: yes I am |
| 13:48.08 | racecar56 | sly007: hmmm, you did try the alsa checklist, right? /msg dpkg alsa-checklist if you didnt |
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| 13:51.44 | Nikke | why cant apache open .php files |
| 13:51.48 | Nikke | i installed php5 |
| 13:51.56 | Nikke | what do i need to change in apache conf? |
| 13:52.05 | justin | Nikke: what exactly did you install? |
| 13:52.06 | petemc | you shouldnt have to do anything |
| 13:52.11 | Nikke | petemc: hmm |
| 13:53.01 | Nikke | ahh now |
| 13:53.01 | ranix | Nikke: there are two versions of apache in stable, iirc |
| 13:53.13 | ranix | Nikke: apache2 and apache-1.4 or something |
| 13:53.14 | justin | there are also multiple php pachages |
| 13:53.15 | racecar56 | i installed debian from a usb drive and debian first thought my main disk was /dev/sdf and grub thought it was (hd1,X) so then i changed them, so then when i install kernel image it reverts it back, how do i stop this madness? |
| 13:53.36 | ranix | you could have installed the wrong php package for the apache you're not using |
| 13:53.41 | justin | racecar56: what does "I changed them" mean? |
| 13:54.03 | racecar56 | justin: i changed /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab |
| 13:54.05 | ranix | racecar56: edit /etc/grub/menu.lst |
| 13:54.14 | ranix | racecar56: ehr |
| 13:54.16 | racecar56 | ranix: i did, it reverts it back |
| 13:54.24 | ranix | /boot/grub.menu.list |
| 13:54.26 | justin | you probably need to fix /boot/grub/device.map |
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| 13:54.57 | ranix | see where it says "### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST |
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| 13:55.18 | racecar56 | (hd0) /dev/sde (hd1) /dev/sdf hmmmmmmmmm |
| 13:55.20 | ranix | you want to change your options in there |
| 13:55.25 | racecar56 | i need one for /dev/sda |
| 13:55.48 | ranix | there should be a line that says # groot=(hd0,0) |
| 13:56.06 | ranix | or, 1,0 in your case |
| 13:56.15 | ranix | change it to what you need it to be, don't uncomment that line |
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| 13:57.31 | |RicharD| | why |
| 13:57.34 | ranix | you can also set default kernel options there that will get added to entries for new kernels installed, such as # defoptions=vga=0x324 splash |
| 13:57.40 | |RicharD| | my openvpn don't have the pam plugin ? |
| 13:57.43 | |RicharD| | how i can istall it ? |
| 13:58.07 | racecar56 | ranix: i only saw 2 lines, (hd0) /dev/sde (hd1) /dev/sdf and i just made the file say (hd0) /dev/sda and nothing else |
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| 13:58.34 | ranix | racecar56: there are only two lines in your menu.lst? |
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| 13:59.35 | racecar56 | ranix: no, i misunderstood |
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| 14:00.21 | racecar56 | ranix: ah i see it |
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| 14:04.31 | micols | anybody experienced pppd dieing just after launch from wvdial and solved it? hdspa network |
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| 14:11.32 | Evet | Which virtualization software do you suggest? |
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| 14:11.47 | racecar56 | Evet: qemu or virtualbox |
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| 14:12.28 | racecar56 | now for the annoying nvidia drivers, i installed them using dpkg's m-a method and i still don't have 3D |
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| 14:13.23 | Evet | racecar56, qemu and virtualbox doing full virtualization, right? |
| 14:13.27 | Evet | not kernel-sharing? |
| 14:13.38 | racecar56 | Evet: i don't know |
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| 14:15.33 | racecar56 | oh dang not the annoying no glx on display :0.0 error |
| 14:15.45 | racecar56 | and yes i did install nvidia-glx |
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| 14:16.43 | EagleScreen | hola |
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| 14:18.06 | EagleScreen | hi i cannot boot any Debian installer CD for Squeeze/Testing, it stops when sdb drive detected, but there isn't any sdb drive in this cumputer |
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| 14:19.55 | Evet | package manager cant download anything. how can i change the mirror server? |
| 14:19.56 | hark | try the stable installer or another build |
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| 14:20.32 | hark | Evet: edit your sources.list |
| 14:21.38 | racecar56 | yay!!!! nvidia drivers are working |
| 14:21.46 | EagleScreen | i have booted a kubuntu live CD and tty are constantly printing this: http://pastebin.com/ |
| 14:21.51 | racecar56 | !confetti dpkg |
| 14:21.51 | dpkg | throws loads and loads of confetti all over dpkg and shouts "Hooray!". |
| 14:21.53 | Evet | hark, where i can find sources? |
| 14:21.54 | _csioktel | how to change /dev/mapper/lvm-kvm group permission? |
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| 14:22.21 | hark | Evet: /msg dpkg mirrors |
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| 14:22.50 | Evet | hark, ty |
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| 14:23.48 | _csioktel | i mean config it automatilly permission when it create at bootup. |
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| 14:25.44 | morphex | on redhat's bugzilla there are instructions on how to mitigate the latest linux kernel exploit, is there something similar for debian? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=516949#c10 |
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| 14:30.19 | Evet | i cant install packages via aptitude > http://pastebin.com/d3e052c7f |
| 14:31.31 | ranix | Evet: ping ftp.uni-bayreuth.de |
| 14:31.35 | mohan3k | looks like a dns/inet issue, evet |
| 14:32.10 | Evet | aww right |
| 14:32.16 | Evet | i deleted bind, forgot |
| 14:32.19 | Evet | thanks ;) |
| 14:32.44 | lvh | keep it that way |
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| 14:38.39 | alexfranci | hello! i use a raid 1 on my computer. how can i see how big is the strip? |
| 14:39.25 | ranix | alexfranci: strip? Can you rephrase your question |
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| 14:40.50 | alexfranci | ranix, of course. i know that raid 0 and raid 1 use the strips: the strips are sectors, blocks or an other multipler. |
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| 14:41.27 | alexfranci | for example, when you want to write to a raid0 disk, if your multipler is "sector" |
| 14:41.37 | drwahl | i'm having a hard time findind the status of ia32-apt-get. should it be available in sid? |
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| 14:41.46 | alexfranci | you will write a sector to one disk and a sector to the second disk... |
| 14:42.18 | alexfranci | if your stripe is, for example, 13 sectors, you will write 13 sectors to one disk and 13 sectors to the second disk |
| 14:42.47 | alexfranci | ranix, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_striping |
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| 14:43.40 | alexfranci | my question is how can i see how big is my stripes on linux |
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| 14:44.36 | Phil4 | alexfranci, is this software or hardware RAID? |
| 14:44.37 | ranix | alexfranci: raid 1 is not striped |
| 14:44.43 | ranix | alexfranci: it is mirroring |
| 14:44.53 | Phil4 | oh, it's RAID1? |
| 14:44.54 | Phil4 | nvm |
| 14:44.55 | Phil4 | lol |
| 14:45.06 | alexfranci | Phil4, is software raid |
| 14:45.13 | alexfranci | ranix, raid1 is striped too |
| 14:45.25 | alexfranci | but the striped are copied on the disks |
| 14:45.45 | ranix | from wikipedia: RAID 1 mirrors the contents of the disks, making a form of 1:1 ratio realtime backup. The contents of each disk in the array are identical to that of every other disk in the array. |
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| 14:46.17 | alexfranci | ranix, yes i know but they use stripe however :) |
| 14:46.29 | alexfranci | well, maybe my teacher is wrong |
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| 14:47.22 | ranix | perhaps you're mindlessly regurgitating the "argument from authority" fallacy without thinking it over for yourself? No offense |
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| 14:48.14 | ranix | the source of MD is there if you need proof that raid 1 is not striped |
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| 14:49.19 | nick4 | Why isn't this Bash function valid? And what do I need to change to make it valid? function base_print() { echo " BASE: $1" } |
| 14:49.52 | Kamping_Kaiser | what does bash say is wrong? |
| 14:49.53 | justin | nick4: a ; |
| 14:50.03 | nick4 | let me try this |
| 14:50.36 | keith4 | maybe ask #bash |
| 14:50.46 | nick4 | where exactly justin ? |
| 14:50.53 | alexfranci | ranix, ok. maybe my teacher refers to hardware raid. can it be? |
| 14:51.13 | keith4 | no |
| 14:51.31 | keith4 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels |
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| 14:52.40 | EagleScreen | !kmuto |
| 14:52.41 | dpkg | For Debian Lenny (or Etch) installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ . The included <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files (in 0627 images) are required to be moved prior to network hardware detection, see comments of http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2630-lenny.htm |
| 14:53.14 | ranix | alexfranci: the notion that a mirror could be striped is in itself ludicrous |
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| 14:53.41 | ranix | alexfranci: striping is when you put some information on drive A and some on drive B |
| 14:53.57 | ranix | alexfranci: a mirror has all information on drive A and all information on drive B |
| 14:54.06 | alexfranci | <ranix> alexfranci: striping is when you put some information on drive A and some on drive B |
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| 14:54.24 | alexfranci | what do u mean exactly? do u put ONE STRIP to drive A and AN OTHER STRIP to drive B? |
| 14:54.48 | ranix | not exactly |
| 14:54.51 | ranix | a |
| 14:55.05 | ranix | a "strip" an abstract concept |
| 14:55.28 | ranix | alexfranci: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Block_(data_storage) |
| 14:55.32 | keith4 | more like half of each file goes on disk A, the other half on disk B |
| 14:56.07 | ranix | yeah, you can understand the basic concept with what keith4 said. If you want to try to get more in-depth you need to understand blocks and nodes |
| 14:56.12 | alexfranci | keith4, yes but i think that the file is splitted into stripes |
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| 14:56.51 | alexfranci | so if your stripes is a block, you split the file in block parts |
| 14:57.29 | ranix | alexfranci: data striping, verb - spreading out blocks of each file across multiple disk drives |
| 14:57.39 | alexfranci | blocks? |
| 14:57.47 | ranix | < ranix> alexfranci: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Block_(data_storage) |
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| 14:58.03 | tawan | openbox - can i tell a program to load without focus? |
| 14:58.28 | ranix | you cannot understand hardware from some arbitrary middle point, you need to understand how a hard drive works to understand the fundamentals behind data striping |
| 14:58.54 | ranix | otherwise just use the Tom's Hardware guide to RAID and blindly fudge your way through it |
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| 14:59.23 | keith4 | alexfranci: doesn't matter what you think. raid 0 is not redundant, it is striped (for performance). raid 1 is a mirror. AKA a copy. it's redundant. go read the wikipedia article |
| 14:59.35 | keith4 | this isn't really open for discussion |
| 14:59.37 | alexfranci | keith4, yes i got it for raid1 |
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| 15:00.07 | keith4 | raid 0 is really a misnomer, since the R in Raid = redundant, and "raid 0" isn't redundant at all |
| 15:00.18 | drwahl | i'm having a hard time findind the status of ia32-apt-get. is it supposed to be available in sid? |
| 15:00.28 | alexfranci | keith4, i know |
| 15:00.30 | keith4 | now, you can mirror your stripes, or stripe your mirrors, by using raid 1+0 or "raid 10" |
| 15:01.00 | alexfranci | ranix, i am tring to do it |
| 15:01.37 | alexfranci | *trying |
| 15:02.42 | alexfranci | however, thank you |
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| 15:10.27 | rgr | something is blanking my screen after 10 minutes. its not xscreensaver or gnomescreensaver, what else could it be? |
| 15:10.45 | alexfranci | rgr, X itself |
| 15:10.49 | path | yes |
| 15:10.55 | path | try xset rgr |
| 15:11.01 | path | it might be DPMS |
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| 15:11.19 | rgr | xset? |
| 15:11.24 | keith4 | yep. xset -dpms |
| 15:11.35 | keith4 | and/or "xset s off" |
| 15:11.47 | alexfranci | rgr, /etc/X11/xorg.conf -> see this options: http://nopaste.org/p/asVnNrf7C |
| 15:12.51 | ajavid | good morning! |
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| 15:13.02 | ajavid | fantastic day in the world of debian, whats goin on people |
| 15:13.30 | rgr | no standby time setting in my xorg.conf |
| 15:13.56 | rgr | but I guess xset -dpms in my .xsession will do to keep it off? |
| 15:14.15 | alexfranci | rgr, standby off time or suspend time, or blank time? |
| 15:14.41 | ajavid | keith4, its an AID, not RAID |
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| 15:14.48 | phorce1 | where would I see logs for bootp attempts (so I can tell if the system I'm trying to netboot is reaching my tftp host) |
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| 15:17.32 | phorce1 | I don't see anything in syslog |
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| 15:18.45 | keith4 | do you actually mean bootp? |
| 15:18.47 | keith4 | or... dhcp? |
| 15:18.53 | keith4 | either way, it should be in syslog |
| 15:19.09 | drwahl | anyone have any info on the status of ia32-apt-get. is it supposed to be available in sid? |
| 15:19.51 | phorce1 | keith4: bootp |
| 15:20.33 | phorce1 | keith4: looks like i have to set up dhcpd though. bootpd doesn't seem to do PXE. Now the fun part. |
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| 15:21.20 | paxcoder | any way to hide "hidden" - ie ".*" files from the GtkFileDIalog? |
| 15:21.31 | keith4 | drwahl: there is no package by that name, according to packages.debian.org |
| 15:21.34 | paxcoder | *FileChooser - Open/Close thingies |
| 15:21.35 | phorce1 | When I install dhcp-server with aptitude does it, by default, start trying to server up addresses on one of my networks? I need it to NOT server any addresses, this is for a PXE boot of a single machine only |
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| 15:22.08 | phorce1 | s/server /serve / |
| 15:22.09 | drwahl | keith4: ya, that is what i have seen, so the next question would be, how am i supposed to get 32bit libs in a 64bit sid install? |
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| 15:23.10 | keith4 | ... what? |
| 15:24.18 | drwahl | for example, Wine wants a 32bit version of libGL to run opengl apps. on debian sid, ia32-libs does not exists (from what i read, its because i need ia32-apt-get to install it). so how am i supposed to get the 32bit libGL installed? |
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| 15:26.20 | ajavid | phorce1, i think when you right click in the actual file list, you can select a checkbox in the popup context menu which says 'show hidden files' |
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| 15:26.30 | ajavid | s/phorce1/paxcoder |
| 15:26.45 | ajavid | in gtk file open/save dialog |
| 15:27.14 | paxcoder | ajavid: correct. Thanks. Never would've expected something so intuitive XD |
| 15:27.23 | ajavid | np |
| 15:28.14 | phorce1 | really? I never tried that because I have "show hidden files" set ON in nautilus. Thanks for the mis-nick ajavid |
| 15:28.31 | ajavid | bow to the master baby. |
| 15:28.37 | ajavid | thas right, I said it. |
| 15:28.42 | paxcoder | who's the master baby? |
| 15:28.44 | phorce1 | heh |
| 15:28.58 | ajavid | I am the master baby, infantile! dun dun dun |
| 15:29.06 | ajavid | moving this right along |
| 15:29.13 | Wooga | is there any way to limit globaly max process cputime/realtime (aka cpu % load) consuming in order of prevention processes consuming all available resources and thus causing denial of service ? |
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| 15:29.22 | ajavid | phorce1, that is not the same as the nautilus option |
| 15:29.36 | ajavid | phorce1, that option only affects nautilus file browser, not gtk open save dialog box |
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| 15:29.51 | ajavid | its a totally diff gtk widget |
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| 15:30.02 | phorce1 | ajavid: ahhh |
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| 15:32.28 | Mick27 | anyone familliar lsyncd ? |
| 15:32.37 | ajavid | !anyone |
| 15:32.37 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 15:33.33 | Mick27 | that is my question :-/ |
| 15:33.40 | Mick27 | I rephrase |
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| 15:34.20 | Mick27 | Does -anyone- know hot to use lsyncd with an ssh server on a different port than 22 ? |
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| 15:46.16 | paul___ | Hi is there a way to install debian without a bootable cd ? |
| 15:46.28 | steven43126 | Anybody heard about a debian update for the recent kernel vuln ? |
| 15:46.33 | paul___ | im want to downgrade this installation back to lenny |
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| 15:49.11 | nootoyahora | can I paste a two-line error? |
| 15:49.21 | abrotman | slowly! |
| 15:49.24 | peterrooney | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:49.39 | steven43126 | paul___: pxeboot ? |
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| 15:50.51 | nootoyahora | Setting up openjdk-6-jre-headless (6b16-4) ... |
| 15:50.51 | nootoyahora | update-alternatives: error: alternative rmiregistry can't be master: it is a slave of java |
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| 15:51.20 | nootoyahora | this an error that my debian (testing version) has from some weeks ago... waht can I do? |
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| 15:52.22 | steven43126 | nootoyahora: what are you running to generate this error ? |
| 15:52.39 | nootoyahora | steven43126, apt-get update |
| 15:52.47 | nootoyahora | steven43126, apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 15:52.53 | steven43126 | nootoyahora: sounds like a problem with the package |
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| 15:53.24 | nootoyahora | I supossed it, but.. tis there anything I can do? |
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| 15:53.39 | steven43126 | nootoyahora: try running update-altenatives manually |
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| 15:54.30 | nootoyahora | steven43126, but the problem is that it must be given some parameters that I don't know... |
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| 15:54.50 | steven43126 | nootoyahora: man update-alternatives |
| 15:55.08 | steven43126 | nootoyahora: you can run it with --all and set through all the options that easiest |
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| 15:55.19 | steven43126 | NiveusLuna: but the longest :) |
| 15:55.30 | steven43126 | nootoyahora even, sorry |
| 15:55.53 | peterrooney | steven43126: i learned all kinds of things about my system doing that the long way. |
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| 15:56.27 | NiveusLuna | hehe. gotta love tab-complete. |
| 15:56.38 | steven43126 | peterrooney: true there are a lot of alternatives ;) |
| 15:56.41 | Phil4 | hrmmm |
| 15:56.49 | Phil4 | got an update the other day talking about replacing sh with something else |
| 15:56.50 | Phil4 | and, now... |
| 15:56.57 | steven43126 | NiveusLuna: yup sorry to tab happy ;) |
| 15:57.02 | themill | nootoyahora: you need to do some house cleaning. Try removing the gij-4.0 package. |
| 15:57.03 | Phil4 | $ echo -e "abc" |
| 15:57.03 | Phil4 | -e abc |
| 15:57.03 | Phil4 | $ |
| 15:57.15 | NiveusLuna | happens to the best of us, no problem :P |
| 15:57.15 | Phil4 | anyone know wtf that's about? |
| 15:57.49 | steven43126 | Phil4: sh is replaced with dash i belive |
| 15:58.00 | Phil4 | I see |
| 15:58.04 | steven43126 | Phil4: your user shell should not have changed though |
| 15:58.08 | Phil4 | and dash doesn't do echo -e |
| 15:58.09 | Phil4 | it hasn't |
| 15:58.14 | nootoyahora | themill, I'm going to do it now, one moment (why cleaning?) |
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| 15:58.37 | themill | nootoyahora: that's a very very old package that you should have removed years ago. (It's from sarge) |
| 15:58.45 | steven43126 | Phil4: man dash, there are incompatabilites but im not sure what they are :) i haven't seen any problems yet |
| 15:59.17 | nootoyahora | themill, my debian box is a sarge upgraded box I think ;D |
| 15:59.32 | themill | Phil4: echo -e is one of the common bashisms that creeps into shell scripts. /msg dpkg dash ; /msg dpkg bashism |
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| 16:00.20 | bpun | wth is this? https://gallery.debconf.org/d/43597-2/dsc01125.jpg |
| 16:00.22 | bpun | lol |
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| 16:00.49 | bpun | was just checking out some of 'em pics from this years debconf |
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| 16:02.27 | Hydroxide | bpun: that's Joerg Jaspert, one of Debian's ftpmasters and account managers :) he also has a shirt saying "Just Shy, Not Antisocial (you can talk to me!)" |
| 16:02.37 | Hydroxide | bpun: he wore them in consecutive days at one point |
| 16:02.53 | Phil-Laptop` | fscking wireless... |
| 16:02.58 | ajavid | badass shirt |
| 16:02.58 | nootoyahora | themill, I have erased it, and it gives less errros now but.. the error still is there... |
| 16:03.03 | Hydroxide | ajavid: yes |
| 16:03.14 | ajavid | Hydroxide, where have you been hiding? |
| 16:03.19 | Hydroxide | I've been around |
| 16:03.29 | themill | nootoyahora: can you pastebin the output of "aptitude search ~o ; aptitude -f install" |
| 16:03.38 | ajavid | How goes plans for 2010 debconf |
| 16:03.53 | nootoyahora | theof course, pastebin? or #flood? |
| 16:04.05 | Hydroxide | ajavid: fine |
| 16:04.06 | themill | nootoyahora: pastebin is easiest |
| 16:04.06 | bpun | Hydroxide, and then he reverses it.. to having switch the not and just words on another pic.. funny guy lol |
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| 16:04.12 | ajavid | I haven't read debian-nyc in a couple of weeks |
| 16:05.03 | spectre | what's the best way to have a linux box be a fileserver in a windows active directory domain? |
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| 16:06.35 | spectre | is there a good way to handle the synchronization with user accounts, folder redirection, and permissions? |
| 16:08.34 | bpun | spectre, i'm guessing ldap and adtool packages are worth looking into.. |
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| 16:09.05 | spectre | will that handle replication user creation in ad? |
| 16:09.15 | spectre | i also want to integrate my postfix server |
| 16:09.40 | spectre | so we don't have to create/modify accounts on the deb box vs doing it all from AD |
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| 16:10.12 | bpun | spectre, you'd have to do some research.. there may be something with ms$ site.. as m$ is wanting to make more compat (especially it's UNIX service bundle which should be avail under m$ server ) |
| 16:10.30 | spectre | k |
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| 16:11.08 | bpun | spectre, i'm sure any chan with ldap here on freenode would be able to offer some hints.. sorry i dont know of any :/.. |
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| 16:11.17 | spectre | ok good idea |
| 16:11.19 | spectre | thanks |
| 16:11.27 | nootoyahora | themill, http://pastebin.com/d7ff468bc |
| 16:12.38 | zmc | how can I netinstall a machine that needs the atl1e drivers from 2.6.27 on lenny (2.6.26) i have the source for the drivers and a lenny netinstallcd. |
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| 16:14.24 | themill | nootoyahora: yikes. Just about all of the packages in the output of "aptitude search ~o" are packages that have been removed from debian. There may be a couple of packages that you've installed with dpkg -i there, but you can probably uninstall every single one of them unless you know that you want the old package or that you have compiled stuff that uses it (and so apt doesn't know you still need the package). |
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| 16:16.47 | nootoyahora | themill, my debian is a sarge installation upgraded again and again ;D nd if I don't rememberbad NEVER have I compile anythhing that needed libraries oro similar so I'm pretty sure I can remove al that packages |
| 16:17.14 | themill | nootoyahora: "aptitude -f install gcj-4.0-base_ gcj-4.1-base_ gcj-3.3_" should hopefully be enough to sort out your alternatives |
| 16:18.17 | nootoyahora | themill, ok, I will try... and one question please... |
| 16:18.22 | themill | nootoyahora: mmm... you might also need to get rid of the gij-* packages (I can't recall which of those old packages had the rmiregistry alternative) |
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| 16:19.09 | nootoyahora | themill, ok I will erase all of them (how did you know thatwas the problem?) |
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| 16:19.48 | themill | nootoyahora: seen it a couple of times recently.... the first time took a *very* long time to figure out what the issue was. |
| 16:20.32 | nootoyahora | themill, ah! I feel better now, becuase I read the erro message and I get nuts about it and tohught of me "you're a l00ser" xD |
| 16:21.29 | themill | nootoyahora: nah... that's a pretty strange error message and it only comes up if people have mixtures of sarge and sid on the same box which is a pretty impressive effort. |
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| 16:22.06 | nootoyahora | themill, is not an "effort" is more like "garbage adn", fromevolution you know ;D |
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| 16:23.21 | bpun | nootoyahora, if you use apt-cache policy <packagename> , you should be able to see which repo it's coming from |
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| 16:28.13 | nootoyahora | bpun, did not kow about that, thank you |
| 16:29.05 | nootoyahora | themill, http://pastebin.com/d7fa61a62 :( |
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| 16:30.52 | wildc4rd | evening all |
| 16:30.59 | forest | Trying to install flash (ugh) on fully up-to-date Lenny machine but I am getting this: |
| 16:31.06 | forest | "The following packages are BROKEN: flashplugin-nonfree: Depends: libnss3-1d but it is not installable |
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| 16:31.10 | forest | Any suggestions? |
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| 16:31.30 | forest | evening wildc4rd (actually its still morning here) |
| 16:31.39 | honschu | hi, I have compiled a window manager, now I would like kdm to start it. Where do I have to add it? |
| 16:32.00 | wildc4rd | aye, 'Hi all' is probably a more international greeting |
| 16:32.26 | bpun | is using www.debian-multimedia.org for his flashplayer-mozilla package |
| 16:32.37 | wildc4rd | you tried removing it and installing again forest? |
| 16:32.43 | bpun | forest, you're missing some repo settings.. |
| 16:32.44 | themill | nootoyahora: what about it? Are you sure you want to remove gij and gij-4.3? |
| 16:33.08 | wildc4rd | aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree should work every time |
| 16:33.31 | bpun | forest, see that u enabled contrib and non-free, then apt-get the multimedia keyring (apt-get install debian-multimedia-keyring)-- |
| 16:33.35 | bpun | !mm |
| 16:33.35 | dpkg | methinks mm is Myanmar (Burma) |
| 16:33.59 | bpun | !dmm lenny |
| 16:33.59 | dpkg | To add the debian-multimedia repository run (as root) # echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ lenny main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; aptitude update && aptitude install debian-multimedia-keyring && aptitude update. For an alternative way to load Marillat's archive key, ask me about <apt-key 1F41B907>. |
| 16:34.02 | nootoyahora | themill, you said that I need to remove the gij packages, or did I understood you bad? |
| 16:34.07 | themill | wildc4rd: no, it won't work for lenny at all |
| 16:34.09 | spectre | spent a few months in burma :o |
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| 16:34.49 | themill | nootoyahora: I mean some of the old gij packages -- you have gij-3.4 and gij-4.1 on that list of obsolete packages. |
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| 16:35.43 | nootoyahora | themill, f I try to aptitude -f install gcj-4.0-base_ gcj-4.1-base_ gcj-3.3_ then I tries to erase packages... (maybe old packges that are on the ~o list?) |
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| 16:36.27 | themill | nootoyahora: adding _ to the end of a package name will cause aptitude to try to purge the package. |
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| 16:37.04 | nootoyahora | well <themill> nootoyahora: "aptitude -f install gcj-4.0-base_ gcj-4.1-base_ gcj-3.3_" should hopefully be enough to sort out your alternatives |
| 16:37.07 | nootoyahora | :) |
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| 16:38.47 | themill | nootoyahora: yes. "aptitude -f install" will ask aptitude to try to fix up the situation by installing packages. Adding packagename_ to the end will also ask it to try to purge packages at the same time. So we get rid of the ancient packages that are causing trouble and try to fix (finish off configure etc) |
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| 16:40.27 | nootoyahora | themill, waht does it mean http://pastebin.com/d30a64b1b, what are all those {u}'s and {p}'s? |
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| 16:41.17 | lelu | im having trouble installing awstats under debian |
| 16:41.19 | lelu | any help? |
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| 16:43.51 | themill | nootoyahora: {p} indicates that it's going to be purged. {u} that it will be uninstalled. Aptitude doesn't want to remove some old gcj stuff though but I think you'll be ok from there. At that "Y/n/q" prompt, you could type "_gij-4.1 libgcj6 libgcj6-awt libgcj7-0 libgcj7-1 libgcj7-1-awt libgcj7-jar" to get it to remove some of those other crufty packages if you want |
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| 16:45.11 | nootoyahora | themill, I do really want, I would like to purge all of my "old stuff" from sarge, but I did not know how(I hoped that the debian system would take care of it, but it seems it doesn't) |
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| 16:45.30 | lelu | anyone have a propper install guide to awstats for debian? |
| 16:45.35 | lelu | the apt-get version is broken |
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| 16:45.50 | spectre | also interested |
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| 16:47.23 | themill | nootoyahora: get things sorted out with this alternatives problem first and then worry about that. apt doesn't remove old packages unless something new conflicts with them as it can't tell the difference between locally installed packages and ones that have been removed from the mirrors |
| 16:48.07 | nootoyahora | themill, aha, trying now to remove first... |
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| 16:50.31 | hark | lelu: /msg dpkg bat |
| 16:51.01 | phorce1 | is there a debian SPECIFIC howto for getting netboot to work using tftp-hpa and dhcp3-server? The install manual seems to be a bit too generic for me to get a handle on. I need a setup that just serves a single address and the tftp files to one machine on one of my networks for fresh lenny install |
| 16:51.22 | lelu | hark: its not apt-get thats wrong its the debian version of awstats is not set up to work with debian by default when its installed via apt-get |
| 16:51.27 | phorce1 | will be afk for a few so please be sure to tag my nick on replies |
| 16:51.52 | lelu | hark: im having to bugger about with a ton of things it should have automatically done so the awstats_configure.pl doesnt kick up an error |
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| 16:52.54 | hark | lelu: did you read /usr/share/doc/awstats/README.Debian ? |
| 16:53.02 | lelu | hark: yes |
| 16:53.11 | hark | and check the bts? |
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| 16:55.03 | lelu | hark: i get the error Error: Failed to open '/usr/share/doc/awstats/examples/wwwroot/cgi-bin/awstats.model.conf' for read. when i run the setup perl script |
| 16:55.11 | lelu | and thats because wwwroot dont excist |
| 16:55.20 | lelu | its like it hasnt installed the whole lot |
| 16:55.33 | lelu | even when i mkdir it, it still kicks up a fuss |
| 16:55.39 | lelu | so i think its missing a lot of files |
| 16:55.55 | lelu | looking in the forums ive seen a lot of people cursing the debian dev people for being lazy and not fixing this in a long time |
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| 16:57.53 | lelu | hmm i suppose i shall have to do it the old fashioned way. |
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| 16:58.28 | dehqan | good day every body, i'll be thankfull if you guide ,libfprint0 needs glibc 2.8 but version 2.7 is installed now on debian ,and changing glibc version may cause problems ,is it possibe to install lower version of libfprint0 that wants glibc 2.7 ? |
| 16:58.54 | dehqan | to sending one msg to some users in twitter what should be done ? |
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| 17:01.49 | hark | lelu: you might have to edit the script, the file should be in the exmaples directory |
| 17:02.13 | lelu | hark: yeah i found a patch for this just now, and applied it. I hope it works. the patch is from 2006 |
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| 17:04.21 | hark | it's here: /usr/share/doc/awstats/examples/awstats.model.conf.gz |
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| 17:05.55 | nootoyahora | themill, http://pastebin.com/d42b8bdfa the same... |
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| 17:06.46 | themill | nootoyahora: urgh. Can you pastebin the contents of "/var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/java" for me? |
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| 17:06.58 | nootoyahora | themill, sure |
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| 17:07.40 | nootoyahora | themill, http://pastebin.com/maf7592c |
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| 17:08.34 | themill | nootoyahora: right.... so we need to kill whatever package contains gij-wrapper-3.4 |
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| 17:09.29 | themill | (probably gij-3.4 but I thought you'd already purged that one) |
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| 17:09.40 | nootoyahora | themill, how do you know it? |
| 17:09.50 | nootoyahora | themill, I thought it was pruged too |
| 17:10.08 | themill | nootoyahora: that's package that has installed this alternative for rmiregistry |
| 17:11.23 | sparr | when a ssh server "hangs up" on me, which I discover by the client being nonresponsive, is there any way out other than killing the client? |
| 17:12.18 | nootoyahora | themill, and what do I need to erase? I have done apt-get remove gij... |
| 17:12.31 | bpun | sparr, use "screen -RR" |
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| 17:13.08 | themill | nootoyahora: Can you pastebin aptitude search '~n3\.4~i' ; dpkg -S /usr/bin/gij-wrapper-3.4 |
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| 17:14.53 | nootoyahora | themill, http://pastebin.com/d3833946b (waht does it mean that command? I don't understand it) |
| 17:14.59 | bpun | ~tell sparr about screen |
| 17:15.12 | steven43126 | sparr: enter ~. enter |
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| 17:15.30 | bpun | !tell bpun about test |
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| 17:15.47 | bpun | !screen |
| 17:15.47 | dpkg | [screen] a terminal multiplexor, allowing you to have n terminals and easily switch between them, add keybindings, scroll back, copy/paste and lets you resume all your sessions if your terminal dies or are disconnected. "aptitude install screen". See /usr/share/doc/screen/README.Debian and also ask me about <screen tutorial>. http://www.gnu.org/software/screen #screen on irc.freenode.net. |
| 17:15.49 | sparr | steven43126: what does that do? |
| 17:16.04 | steven43126 | sparr: causes the ssh client to close the connection |
| 17:16.10 | sparr | bpun: how is that relevant to my question? ssh is still going to be stuck even if it's running in screen |
| 17:16.21 | steven43126 | sparr: like ^] in telnet :) |
| 17:16.26 | bpun | sparr, not sure |
| 17:16.28 | sparr | thanks steven43126, i'll try that next time |
| 17:16.56 | bpun | sparr, but even if it does and you close the window.. screen -RR can resume your session |
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| 17:17.27 | sparr | i don't see how that's relevant |
| 17:17.40 | bpun | sparr, i have no idea if you wre using screen.. |
| 17:18.09 | sparr | whether I was or was not using screen has no bearing on the problem of ssh getting stuck |
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| 17:18.12 | sparr | or how to resolve it |
| 17:18.13 | themill | nootoyahora: aptitude searches are funky and worth learning about. That searched for all packages with "3.4" in the name (~n) that were also installed (~i). Since that tells us that gij-3.4 is still installed and that all the packages it turned up are old, we can now: aptitude purge '~n3\.4~i' |
| 17:18.27 | bpun | sparr, resolve ssh server? |
| 17:18.31 | p3rror | hi |
| 17:18.34 | bpun | sparr, dunno.. you using dialup? |
| 17:18.36 | p3rror | please i need some help |
| 17:18.58 | ranix | sparr: according to my knowledge there is no good way of killing a hung-up (i.e. disconnected as if a phone) ssh session besides running it in an xterm and closing said xterm (or inside a screen and closing that screen window) |
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| 17:19.01 | bpun | sparr, maybe optimize your net connection? |
| 17:19.12 | ranix | sparr: or actually pkilling it |
| 17:19.12 | nootoyahora | themill, I uninstall them but, how do you know they'reold? where do you see it? |
| 17:19.14 | sparr | it's not a connection problem |
| 17:19.15 | themill | nootoyahora: "/msg dpkg aptitude search" for more on aptitude searches |
| 17:19.17 | p3rror | i run accidentally hdparm on my ide disk with the option -w |
| 17:19.23 | sparr | the server just disconnects after a certain amount of idle time |
| 17:19.24 | bpun | sparr, ok.. so you know.. i give up |
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| 17:19.31 | themill | nootoyahora: everything about gcc 3.4 is old and they're all gcc 3.4 packages |
| 17:19.34 | ranix | sparr: did you perhaps ctrl+s the session and freeze the window |
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| 17:19.37 | sparr | every ssh server i deal with does it |
| 17:19.41 | ranix | sparr: try ctrl+q |
| 17:19.44 | abrotman | p3rror: and you'd like to do what about it? |
| 17:19.46 | ranix | sparr: if it closes, fg it |
| 17:19.59 | sparr | ranix: session? |
| 17:20.16 | p3rror | abrotman, nothing i played with hdparm and its options |
| 17:20.25 | ranix | I am using the wrong word, I don't know what the ctrl+s/ctrl+d/ctrl+q are actually called |
| 17:20.30 | ranix | also ctrl+x |
| 17:20.42 | p3rror | well the read speed was decrease to 3MB/sec |
| 17:20.43 | sparr | i was unaware that the ssh client had hotkeys of that sort |
| 17:20.52 | sparr | what should i expect them to do? |
| 17:21.00 | ranix | it's not ssh itself, they're bash things |
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| 17:21.15 | mcgreg | any alsa "pro's" in here? I have a problem with my new mainboard+alsa. the sound fails with almost every application. except vlc and kde itself can use it somehowe. mplayer/aplay/amarok ... and some games (nexuiz) - they all fail with ALSA lib pcm_direct.c:1605:(snd1_pcm_direct_parse_open_conf) The field ipc_gid must be a valid group (create group audio). I changed the mianboard todaxy. with my old mainboard everything was fine |
| 17:21.21 | sparr | maybe i wasn't specific enough |
| 17:21.26 | sparr | the server is disconnecting me for being idle |
| 17:21.40 | bpun | sparr, do you know about ctl-s in bash? |
| 17:22.07 | ranix | sparr: ok then in that case just kill the ssh process or close the window |
| 17:22.14 | Hadaka | I installed a package, it asked about what to do with a configuration file (use old, new, show differences, etc.) - I answered to use the installed version, but now I'd like to change my mind - how do I fix this? |
| 17:22.19 | p3rror | abrotman, in the man it marked "-w Perform a device reset (DANGEROUS). don't use this option" |
| 17:22.27 | p3rror | and i did |
| 17:22.58 | sparr | ranix: what if I am in a console, without another console to use? it seems like very shitty design for the program to just lock up |
| 17:23.05 | abrotman | so why would you do it if it were dangerous ? |
| 17:23.15 | abrotman | p3rror: uname -a .. what does it say ? |
| 17:23.17 | steven43126 | sparr: enter ~. enter will do the trick |
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| 17:23.34 | sparr | steven43126: thanks, I'll try that next time |
| 17:23.38 | ranix | sparr: in that event man ssh and search for "escape characters" |
| 17:23.44 | ranix | provide the -e directive |
| 17:23.47 | p3rror | Linux aldebaran 2.6.29 #2 SMP Thu Apr 2 20:37:46 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 17:23.59 | bpun | steven43126, what is ~. ? |
| 17:24.09 | ranix | bpun: disconnect |
| 17:24.19 | abrotman | p3rror: so it's not Debian ? |
| 17:24.28 | p3rror | it's |
| 17:24.30 | steven43126 | it happens to me occosianly we have a few dodgy machines with some init scripts that hold the terminal open and don't shut down there pipes properly (why no one will fix them i don't know) |
| 17:24.33 | phorce1 | is there some spot that I have to specify that a machine is offering a dhcp/bootp address to get a system to PXE boot if the machine offering the address is not the network default gateway? |
| 17:24.39 | abrotman | p3rror: that's not a debian kernel |
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| 17:24.41 | steven43126 | but that will cleanly close the client |
| 17:25.00 | eOliva | after installing debian, how can I add some repositories in sources.list using the interface showed in debian-installer?? I remember something like apt-setup .. but I can't find it anymore... |
| 17:25.02 | steven43126 | bpun default ssh escape |
| 17:25.18 | p3rror | I think that the debian kernel is 2.6.25 |
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| 17:25.42 | abrotman | p3rror: so you reset the device .. has anything bad happened since ? |
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| 17:25.59 | p3rror | no nothing |
| 17:25.59 | phorce1 | eOliva: manually edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:26.00 | steven43126 | it's documented in the usual place :) |
| 17:26.20 | bpun | phorce1, probably u may have to use f12 with your booting up client pc and specify the tftp address... |
| 17:26.23 | p3rror | only the read speed that was decrease to 3MB/sec |
| 17:26.27 | nootoyahora | themill, it is working right now!!!!!!!!!!!!! no more errors!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 17:26.33 | nootoyahora | themill, you're great man ;D |
| 17:26.44 | p3rror | from 50.92 MB/sec |
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| 17:26.51 | abrotman | p3rror: tried restarting the machine ? |
| 17:26.58 | phorce1 | bpun: it's an rtl8139 chipset --- lemme try that, brb |
| 17:27.10 | abrotman | p3rror: you probably reset some other driver or hdparm parameter |
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| 17:27.13 | p3rror | yes i will do, hoping that will load the default value of hard drive |
| 17:27.14 | steven43126 | p3rror: hdparm -i or -I i don't remember check PIO / DMA settings ? |
| 17:27.15 | bpun | phorce1, hitting f12 is done after u see "...." after showing the mac address after the bios screen.. |
| 17:27.17 | themill | nootoyahora: yay.... glad that's sorted. Now have a look through the output of "aptitude search ~o" or in the section "Obsolete and locally installed packages" in the aptitude UI and do some more spring cleaning :) |
| 17:27.27 | eOliva | phorce1, but if I dont remember the exact address of a repository I want use? |
| 17:27.47 | nootoyahora | themill, that's the way to keep udated upgrades of a debian box? |
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| 17:29.29 | phorce1 | bpun: no keys have any effect once it's in the PXE bios |
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| 17:29.44 | goonterp | hi I just installed debian .. my sound is not working |
| 17:29.55 | ranix | !doesn't work |
| 17:29.56 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
| 17:30.00 | goonterp | I installed base, then installed gnome once I restarted |
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| 17:30.03 | phorce1 | eOliva: go search debian.org for the list of mirrors? |
| 17:30.13 | goonterp | alsa is installed |
| 17:30.20 | ajavid | !asla checklist |
| 17:30.26 | ajavid | !alsa checklist |
| 17:30.26 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels) 3) arts or esound stopped? 4) OSS modules unloaded? 5) speakers on? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. See also <list alsa users>. |
| 17:30.40 | hark | goonterp: run speaker-test -c2 -twav |
| 17:31.06 | goonterp | hark: I have a headphone connected just incase its the speakers |
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| 17:31.48 | Mikey^ | Hey |
| 17:31.57 | bpun | phorce1, so what gets stuck? does the pxe machine ever reach it's server? (tcpdump ?) |
| 17:32.17 | Mikey^ | How do I install vlc 1.0 from backports, though I have added backports repo and ask apt-get to install from that, it only installs 0.8.6 |
| 17:32.23 | hark | headphones are like tiny speakers |
| 17:32.31 | ranix | goonterp: can you cat /proc/asound/cards? |
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| 17:33.02 | phorce1 | bpun: the pxe machine never seems to reach the server. No messages in syslog from the dhcp server. What would I look for in tcpdump on the server |
| 17:33.02 | hark | Mikey^: read the instructions at backports.org |
| 17:33.14 | goonterp | ranix: yes, it says Intel HD |
| 17:33.15 | Mikey^ | apt-get -t lenny-backports install vlc |
| 17:33.22 | ranix | goonterp: is there only a card0? |
| 17:33.22 | steven43126 | Mikey^: have you run an aptitude update ? run an apt-cache policy vlc to see why debian chooses that version |
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| 17:33.32 | goonterp | ranix: yes |
| 17:34.03 | goonterp | plus I am part of the audio group |
| 17:34.04 | hark | judd: versions vlc |
| 17:34.05 | judd | hark: vlc -- etch: 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-5.1+etch2 etch-security: 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-5.1+etch3 lenny: 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2 lenny-security: 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2 squeeze: 0.9.9a-3 sid: 1.0.1-1+b1 |
| 17:34.09 | p3rror | steven43126, what the rapport between reseting device and dma |
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| 17:34.23 | Mikey^ | steven43126, it shows the candidate as 0.8.6 |
| 17:34.23 | hark | Mikey^: see judd output ^ |
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| 17:35.38 | ranix | goonterp: do your programs appear to play but you hear nothing, and they give no errors? |
| 17:35.43 | hark | goonterp: did you run the command? |
| 17:35.45 | goonterp | ranix: yes |
| 17:35.46 | steven43126 | Mikey^: is the version from the backport listed |
| 17:35.48 | goonterp | hark: yes |
| 17:35.56 | Mikey^ | no |
| 17:36.02 | goonterp | ranix: what does that mean ? |
| 17:36.06 | hark | goonterp: what do you get? |
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| 17:36.08 | steven43126 | p3rror: i don't know iv'e never run that dagerous option :) |
| 17:36.15 | goonterp | hark: no sound |
| 17:36.27 | steven43126 | p3rror: but DMA, can really affect the transfer rate of the HD |
| 17:36.29 | p3rror | :) |
| 17:36.29 | hark | goonterp: unmuted all channels? |
| 17:36.44 | ranix | goonterp: can you run alsamixer, and unmute everything, switch to 2channel audio, and max out all your volumes?? |
| 17:36.52 | ranix | sorry for the double-? |
| 17:36.54 | ranix | typo |
| 17:37.04 | goonterp | hark: yes |
| 17:37.09 | hark | goonterp: run /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0 |
| 17:37.15 | goonterp | ranix: how do you unmute ? |
| 17:37.17 | p3rror | yes DMA allow access to systems memory independent of cpu |
| 17:37.23 | steven43126 | Mikey^: then you have a problem with you apt line for backports repo |
| 17:37.23 | hark | you should have sound then |
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| 17:37.40 | steven43126 | Mikey^: check and go through the docs at backports website |
| 17:37.46 | Mikey^ | steven43126, backports doesnt have a vlc package |
| 17:37.52 | p3rror | but i don't think that can restore my disk options |
| 17:37.54 | hark | steven43126: Mikey^ vlc is not in backports |
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| 17:38.07 | steven43126 | Mikey^: then im really confused and mis-read the issue :) |
| 17:38.07 | ranix | goonterp: letter M |
| 17:38.23 | ranix | green zeros means it's unmuted |
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| 17:38.58 | steven43126 | Mikey^: thniking about doesn't vlc provide it's oen repo ? |
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| 17:39.16 | abrotman | judd: versions vlc |
| 17:39.17 | judd | abrotman: vlc -- etch: 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-5.1+etch2 etch-security: 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-5.1+etch3 lenny: 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2 lenny-security: 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2 squeeze: 0.9.9a-3 sid: 1.0.1-1+b1 |
| 17:39.28 | abrotman | there's no vlc at backports.org ? |
| 17:39.43 | hark | nope |
| 17:39.49 | Mikey^ | surprising |
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| 17:40.04 | abrotman | not really .. but anyways .. |
| 17:40.05 | Mikey^ | I installed vlc 1.0 before on another computer |
| 17:40.16 | abrotman | maybe oyu want /msg dpkg ssb ? |
| 17:40.19 | Mikey^ | cant remember how I did it, I thought it was backports |
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| 17:41.24 | Mikey^ | any other way to get vlc 1.0 on lenny / |
| 17:42.08 | abrotman | maybe you want /msg dpkg ssb ? |
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| 17:42.34 | steven43126 | Mikey^: plenty, see what version's are in sid, install from source ? |
| 17:42.50 | Mikey^ | sid has 1.0.1 I guess |
| 17:42.53 | dehqan | to install glibc 2.8 which package should be installed |
| 17:43.04 | Mikey^ | can I just add sid repos and install vlc ? |
| 17:43.05 | p3rror | I think that i have to do a backup on second disk and reboot |
| 17:43.12 | hark | dehqan: you don't want to be doing that |
| 17:43.26 | p3rror | i'm confused may that infect the ide interface |
| 17:43.41 | Dominicus | Is it an aspect of X11(freedesktop whatever) that should be handling the automatic power off of my display after so much time on Debian Testing? I've tried using Gnome's "System -> Preferences -> Power Management", and it's set to the lowest value of 11 minutes, but it doesn't work on two different computers. |
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| 17:43.47 | rozie | Mikey^: you can try, but read about apt-pinning first |
| 17:43.51 | l3x | yo |
| 17:43.57 | dehqan | hark: what do u mean ? |
| 17:44.15 | steven43126 | Mikey^: squeeze even has version Version: 1.0.1-1 |
| 17:44.26 | hark | Mikey^: no |
| 17:44.40 | steven43126 | Mikey^: i suggest you have a read through the apt guide on keeping amixed system though |
| 17:45.16 | Mikey^ | ok thanks guys |
| 17:45.27 | abrotman | Dominicus: you can turn off power saving |
| 17:45.29 | steven43126 | Mikey^: if your up for some fun you can always backport the package your self |
| 17:45.38 | Mikey^ | :) |
| 17:45.54 | steven43126 | Mikey^: not usually as hard as you'd think |
| 17:46.04 | Mikey^ | ok :) |
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| 17:46.48 | Dominicus | abrotman: I want it to work, i.e. I need to turn it on. lol |
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| 17:46.55 | dehqan | to install glibc 2.8 which package should be installed |
| 17:46.58 | dehqan | ? |
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| 17:47.39 | Titan8990 | !tell denqan about glibc |
| 17:47.52 | dehqan | tanx |
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| 17:48.18 | Dominicus | abrotman: My monitors aren't shifting into standby after the 11 minutes like I've been expecting. That's the problem. And if I'm not around to use them, I think I'll save the energy. Besides, I can only assume (hopefully correctly) that doing so will extend the life of the backlight component. |
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| 17:48.53 | Mikey^ | I am not able to play a flash file in vlc 0.8.6 |
| 17:49.07 | Mikey^ | do I need to install any other codec ? |
| 17:49.27 | Mikey^ | thought vlc came with most plugins |
| 17:49.54 | abrotman | Dominicus: oh .. sorry .. did you some how turn off acpi or dpms ? |
| 17:50.17 | Titan8990 | Mikey^, you need a specific flash player, not just a codec |
| 17:50.35 | Mikey^ | I have played flash files using vlc |
| 17:51.38 | Dominicus | abrotman: Not intentionally. If anything my usual behavior would be to turn them on. I like lots of options and compatibility (sort of need to have packages installed to get that, lol). |
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| 17:52.12 | dehqan | ! |
| 17:52.15 | Dominicus | abrotman: I wouldn't even know how to determine their startup state, or their current running state. |
| 17:52.25 | Titan8990 | dehqan, what are you up to? |
| 17:52.40 | dehqan | to install glibc 2.8 which package should be installed |
| 17:52.41 | dehqan | ? |
| 17:52.53 | abrotman | dehqan: on lenny? don't do that |
| 17:53.17 | Titan8990 | dehqan, i was asking because you tried to send me a file.... |
| 17:53.18 | dehqan | why ? |
| 17:53.21 | Dominicus | abrotman: I'm just doing the usual "Gimme a gentle nudge in the right direction." here. =) So, from the sound of things, I should look for acpi and dpms stuff then. thanks. |
| 17:53.42 | abrotman | dehqan: because it's the most base library on your system .. the whole rest of the system expects 2.7 .. don't change it |
| 17:53.51 | abrotman | !tell Dominicus about dpms |
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| 17:54.07 | Titan8990 | abrotman, would essentially need to recompile everything, correct? |
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| 17:54.35 | dehqan | some one in glibc channle told that they would not conflict and a glibc 2.8 library will provide symbols for glibc 2.7 compatibility |
| 17:55.02 | abrotman | dehqan: you're going to break your system .. have fun |
| 17:55.07 | dehqan | abrotman: some one in glibc channle told that they would not conflict and a glibc 2.8 library will provide symbols for glibc 2.7 compatibility |
| 17:55.19 | abrotman | i read you the first time |
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| 17:55.36 | dehqan | so don't u accept that claim ? |
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| 17:55.46 | Titan8990 | abrotman, dehqan, i checked and the gentoo guide for upgrading/downgrading glibc requires recompiling ALL packages, not an easy task for debian |
| 17:55.47 | abrotman | i wouldn't do it .. go ahead and do whatever yu'd like |
| 17:55.59 | cire | What is the recommended system id for an usb stick? b (W95 Fat32) or c (W95 FAT32 LBA) |
| 17:56.01 | abrotman | Titan8990: it's not awful .. but not something i'd want to do |
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| 17:56.05 | lindenle | Does debian have some gui printer config utility (other than cups) since kde4 seems to be missing such a thing.... |
| 17:56.15 | Titan8990 | abrotman, its not as easy as emerge -e world system.... |
| 17:56.19 | abrotman | lindenle: i'm sure kde4 has such a thing |
| 17:56.24 | abrotman | Titan8990: /msg dpkg apt-build |
| 17:56.28 | rsnix | How do I use grep -P on lenny, got error like: grep: Support for the -P option is not compiled into this --disable-perl-regexp binary |
| 17:56.30 | cuco | hi all, i am trying to install debian on virtualbox (host is XP), the installer does not even load up. any ideas? |
| 17:57.08 | brah | lindenle, cups can be configured through web |
| 17:57.47 | lindenle | brah: I know but I want something that goes and finds my network printers like kde did in 3.5 |
| 17:58.11 | Titan8990 | abrotman, dpkg said not to bother with it because " the gcc O flags and friends that you specify are not even parsed properly." |
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| 17:58.21 | abrotman | Titan8990: i'm just showing that you can rebuild the system |
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| 17:58.40 | cuco | sweet, it dies while trying to load the cdrom driver |
| 17:58.51 | Titan8990 | abrotman, i got ya.... doesn't seem practical in debian though |
| 17:58.53 | hark | rsnix: install libpcre3 |
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| 17:59.04 | abrotman | Titan8990: it's not practical in gentoo either :) |
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| 17:59.19 | sebastian00 | zoltanh is here? |
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| 17:59.38 | abrotman | sebastian00: /whois zoltanh |
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| 17:59.52 | sebastian00 | thanks |
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| 18:00.06 | sebastian00 | abrotman |
| 18:00.12 | Titan8990 | abrotman, i would disagree.... gentoo is a rolling release so it is intended that gcc/glibc is upgraded at some point |
| 18:00.17 | rsnix | hark: but it's already installed. |
| 18:00.22 | Titan8990 | abrotman, but thats starting to get OT |
| 18:00.42 | abrotman | Titan8990: i meant the idea in general |
| 18:00.45 | dehqan | ok but abrotman: for libfprint0 needs glibc 2.8 , may lower version of libfprint uses glibc 2.7 ? |
| 18:01.07 | Titan8990 | abrotman, of recompiling all packages? |
| 18:01.30 | abrotman | dehqan: what is libfprint0 and why do you need it ? |
| 18:01.31 | hark | rsnix: oh, probably not in lenny's version then. check the bts |
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| 18:01.46 | Titan8990 | did it yesterday on his VPS when he switched a hardened toolchain |
| 18:01.49 | dehqan | is lib needed to use finger print |
| 18:01.53 | dehqan | device |
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| 18:03.15 | hark | rsnix: it's avaiable from version 2.5.4-4 |
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| 18:04.29 | rsnix | hark: I have 2.5.3 version, how do I upgrade it? |
| 18:05.01 | Titan8990 | judd, versions libpcre3 |
| 18:05.01 | judd | Titan8990: libpcre3 -- etch: 6.7+7.4-4 etch-security: 6.7+7.4-4 lenny: 7.6-2.1 sid: 7.8-2+b1 squeeze: 7.8-2+b1 |
| 18:05.03 | dehqan | abrotman: that lib is needed to use finger print device |
| 18:05.44 | Titan8990 | dehqan, what finger print device? where are you getting your information? |
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| 18:07.20 | smarf | hey I want to set up rinetd, though it doesn't seem to "LISTEN" in netstat. |
| 18:07.46 | smarf | I've set the foreward rule in the configuration file.. what could be the cause? |
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| 18:08.35 | hark | rsnix: probably backport it. it's in the bts here: http://bugs.debian.org/364998 |
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| 18:09.30 | dehqan | Titan8990 thinkpad wiki |
| 18:09.33 | hatredx | hello |
| 18:10.31 | smarf | anyone? |
| 18:10.58 | Titan8990 | dehqan, link? |
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| 18:12.11 | hark | rsnix: though you should be able to directly install it from squeeze/sid. it's upto you how much you want that feature |
| 18:12.12 | rsnix | hark: I will check it out, thx. |
| 18:12.29 | dehqan | http://www.reactivated.net/fprint/wiki/Libfprint:Supported_devices |
| 18:12.51 | rsnix | hark: very much! lol, I will check it out. |
| 18:12.58 | abrotman | Titan8990: yes |
| 18:13.03 | abrotman | dehqan: i don't think it is |
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| 18:13.14 | lelu | is there a way of getting awstats to process old log files. i just installed it but it has only loaded this weeks stats and i have the past four months in log archive things |
| 18:13.20 | hark | rsnix: another alternative would be pcregrep |
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| 18:13.49 | dehqan | abrotman what do u mean exactly? |
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| 18:13.53 | Titan8990 | dehqan, alright... i see nothing about glibc |
| 18:13.56 | hatredx | ?? |
| 18:14.32 | Titan8990 | dehqan, hes saying that it is unlikely that the drivers for your fingerprint scanner requires a higher version of glibc |
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| 18:15.53 | dehqan | yes log shows that |
| 18:16.02 | Titan8990 | what log? |
| 18:16.07 | dehqan | Aug 12 11:45:07 debian su[3250]: PAM unable to dlopen(/lib/security/libpam_fingerprint.so): /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.8' not found (required by /lib/security/libpam_fingerprint.so) |
| 18:16.19 | dehqan | auth.log |
| 18:16.26 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 18:16.48 | Titan8990 | dehqan, did you compile that? |
| 18:16.56 | dehqan | yes |
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| 18:17.17 | rsnix | hark: that's a better alternative, great, thanks a lot. |
| 18:17.33 | dehqan | no that log is for a time that there is attempt to login in gdm |
| 18:17.40 | rsnix | hark: pcregrep works fine for me. |
| 18:17.53 | dehqan | anyway dont u think glibc 2.8 is needed |
| 18:17.54 | dehqan | ? |
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| 18:19.25 | Titan8990 | dehqan, did you see this note? Note that libfprint is young project, and its API isn't stable so you can broke pam_fprint and fprint_demo when updating to new versions. Reinstall pam_fprint and fprint_demo immediatelly after libfprint update. |
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| 18:20.31 | dehqan | no what do you mean Titan8990 |
| 18:20.34 | dehqan | see |
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| 18:20.56 | eitan | Can someone here help with problems with printing in a gnome app? |
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| 18:21.06 | dehqan | there is a app named finger print GUI |
| 18:21.28 | dehqan | that needs libfprint0 to be installed before |
| 18:21.31 | dehqan | ok? |
| 18:21.32 | justin | dehqan: you need to compile it youself, not install binaries |
| 18:21.40 | Titan8990 | dehqan, forget it, just a double check.... you installed COMPILED libfprint and didn't use some type of deb? |
| 18:22.00 | Titan8990 | dehqan, because that looks to me that whoever compiled it had a different version of glibc |
| 18:22.02 | dehqan | yes and libfprint0 is installed from rep |
| 18:22.07 | dehqan | .deb one |
| 18:22.28 | Titan8990 | dehqan, that .deb was for ubuntu, you will need to compile it yourself |
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| 18:22.41 | dehqan | now to use finger print device while dm login that error will be shown in log |
| 18:23.05 | dehqan | no that .deb was for exp debian rep |
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| 18:23.40 | dehqan | w8 5 min |
| 18:23.41 | Titan8990 | dehqan, exp? what debian repo? |
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| 18:23.52 | dehqan | experimntal |
| 18:24.07 | dehqan | w8 5 min please tel ... |
| 18:24.08 | Titan8990 | dehqan, dude, you need to compile it, period |
| 18:24.24 | dehqan | tanx |
| 18:24.30 | dehqan | thanks alot |
| 18:24.33 | dehqan | titan |
| 18:24.35 | shah16 | I always get the error 'gtalk0 Network error' while signing into gtalk from EMPATHY, i'm really not able to figureout what the problem is.. im using pidgin, but im not able to place voice calls from pidgin.. what might be the problem in empathy? |
| 18:24.41 | dehqan | and brot |
| 18:24.43 | dehqan | abrot |
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| 18:25.44 | abrotman | i have a name! |
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| 18:27.41 | shah16 | anyone having luck with empathy plz help me out, i've given correct account details, and settings are right.. |
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| 18:35.52 | computergeeksjw | Does anyone know of an RSS feed reader for Debian that synchronizes with Google Reader? |
| 18:36.30 | eitan | I guess not. |
| 18:36.43 | computergeeksjw | eitan That was helpful... |
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| 18:36.56 | deface1 | computergeeksjw, i use liferea |
| 18:37.02 | deface1 | but idk about google reader sync |
| 18:37.26 | computergeeksjw | defacecl Liferea (in aptitude) is not a new enough version to support syncronization |
| 18:38.08 | adama_ | can I use the date command to find out when unix-time 1242075861 was? |
| 18:38.20 | computergeeksjw | someone on #liferea told me that in Debian lenny, certain components are too old to run the latest version of liferea |
| 18:38.22 | justin | adama_: yes |
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| 18:38.41 | adama_ | I tried "date -d1242075861" said invalid |
| 18:38.47 | computergeeksjw | defacel the latest version is required to use google reader sync |
| 18:39.38 | lelu | oh and i got awstats working |
| 18:39.44 | lelu | poxy thing was all over the place |
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| 18:40.32 | cuco | computergeeksjw: how about firefox? |
| 18:40.36 | adama_ | justin: well I can't make it tell me, can you? |
| 18:40.58 | computergeeksjw | cuco I want something that isn't web-based |
| 18:41.03 | computergeeksjw | Firefox is what i've been using |
| 18:41.26 | computergeeksjw | I'd like something that will work when I'm not on the network |
| 18:42.07 | fxiny | adama_: date -d @1242075861 |
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| 18:42.48 | adama_ | ahhh, undocumented syntax |
| 18:42.54 | adama_ | thankts |
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| 18:43.19 | khaije|amalt | computergeeksjw: akregator has some form of greader intergration in progress but i'm not sure where it stands currently |
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| 18:43.41 | khaije|amalt | i do agree with you thought that this is a desirable thing |
| 18:44.00 | computergeeksjw | I'm looking that up now. Thanks! |
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| 18:44.26 | khaije|amalt | i've imported the opml from greader into miro (had to parse it a lot to clean it up) but that is currently working well for me |
| 18:44.36 | dutchfish | does debian provide somthing like a mib-compiler for use with mbrowse (ie loadin gmibs)? i cant find any docs |
| 18:45.14 | khaije|amalt | miro has some need for polish and refinement but it still delivers a high entertainment to fuddle-with-this-crap ratio |
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| 18:45.36 | computergeeksjw | khaije|amalt I wanted something that would Synchronize (i.e.When i marked an item as read on Reader, it would appear as read in my program |
| 18:47.12 | ranix | I didn't know about miro |
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| 18:48.31 | deface1 | anyone have nvidia drivers running on 2.6.30-bpo.1-686 kernel ? |
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| 18:48.52 | callahad | Is it possible to install Squeeze with Lenny's network install images? |
| 18:48.58 | deface1 | build is failing |
| 18:49.14 | justin | callahad: you can always just install base lenny system and then upgrade |
| 18:49.20 | abrotman | callahad: probably .. but just upgrade afterwards |
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| 18:49.38 | callahad | Well, I guess an upgrade won't hurt me. |
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| 18:49.49 | callahad | Yay for testing netinst images being broken :) |
| 18:49.52 | khaije|amalt | computergeeksjw: the only thing i know of that satisfies that criteria currently is mozilla's prism (running greader as a desktop app) |
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| 18:50.22 | abrotman | callahad: or testing packages being broken ... |
| 18:50.34 | ranix | ah, because miro is lame |
| 18:50.35 | ranix | ok |
| 18:50.58 | callahad | abrotman: Is testing having issues at the moment? All of my machines are either lenny or sid |
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| 18:51.43 | stix | Hi guys. Can anyone give me help on creating a shell-script which can be run by a non-root user but execute as root? |
| 18:52.30 | dutchfish | callahad, http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/points.html |
| 18:52.36 | computergeeksjw | stix: Do you mean that both a non-root user and the root user can run your script? |
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| 18:53.18 | ranix | !setuid |
| 18:53.19 | dpkg | [setuid] a bit which, when set on a program, makes the program execute with the privileges of the owner, as opposed to the person who ran it. Example: chmod u+s <file...> |
| 18:53.19 | dutchfish | stix, well, chmod +x foo would do |
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| 18:53.49 | dutchfish | stix, see ranix, misread it |
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| 18:53.59 | micols | how do i check if my hsdpa card is simlocked in minicom/with wvdial? |
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| 18:55.29 | ranix | stix: don't forget to make your script UNEDITABLE by anybody but the owner (root) |
| 18:55.47 | ranix | stix: else anyone who has access to run that thing has rights escalation |
| 18:56.01 | stix | yes good idea |
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| 18:56.23 | stix | but I have tried to do a chmod u+s and it seems like it is run as the non-root user |
| 18:56.36 | justin | you can't +s scripts |
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| 18:58.05 | bhnbfhg | Discuss anything anonymously without registering an account at the only place on the Internet where grammar, spelling and punctuation actually matters: http://www.anontalk.com/ (or https://www.anontalk.com/ for immediate encryption). |
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| 18:58.45 | DetroitLibertyPe | bhnbfhg: why are you spamming us? |
| 18:59.02 | asg | DetroitLibertyPe: because he isn't old enough to go to a pub |
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| 19:00.25 | computergeeksjw | Does anyone know of an RSS feed reader for Debian that synchronizes with Google Reader? |
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| 19:01.41 | ranix | stix: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/faq/part4/section-7.html |
| 19:01.53 | ranix | stix: apparently there is a good reason setuid scripts are disabled |
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| 19:02.14 | ranix | stix: re-evaluate your need to do this, maybe ask us your real question (see /msg dpkg xyproblem) |
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| 19:02.31 | asg | stix: if you need to give a non-root user or users access to run a script as root, use sudo. |
| 19:02.34 | Titan8990 | yeah... you could modify the script to do whatever you want... would be a major security issue |
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| 19:03.10 | stix | asg: yes I suppose so. I am just figuring out how to append a password so it can be run from a script |
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| 19:05.07 | justin | stix: nonono. configure sudo not to require the password to run the program. |
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| 19:06.00 | Woodi | justin: ubuntu default is to ask user pass |
| 19:06.06 | justin | Woodi: that's nice |
| 19:07.06 | DetroitLibertyPe | woodi: what? |
| 19:07.15 | callahad | Whee. Now the netisnt twiddling-of-thumbs begins! |
| 19:07.20 | callahad | er, netinst |
| 19:07.22 | stix | justin: oh, I can do that on a specific script or user? |
| 19:07.27 | justin | stix: yes |
| 19:07.44 | stix | cool, gotta look into to sudo then |
| 19:07.58 | asg | stix: the manpage has a ton of examples |
| 19:08.04 | computergeeksjw | Does anyone know of an RSS feed reader for Debian that synchronizes with Google Reader? |
| 19:08.10 | stix | yes I found some already :) |
| 19:08.31 | abrotman | computergeeksjw: maybe google reader has an RSS feed ? |
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| 19:08.42 | racecar56 | "E: Couldn't configure pre-depend libc6-i386 for lib32stdc++6, probably a dependency cycle." |
| 19:09.10 | cuco | computergeeksjw: i exported the feeds from g-reader and imported it into akregator. not ideal, since i cannot sync the list of messages i read. but at least i am under control. |
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| 19:09.57 | computergeeksjw | abrotman: That still wouldn't be synchronization |
| 19:10.05 | racecar56 | i get "E: Couldn't configure pre-depend libc6-i386 for lib32stdc++6, probably a dependency cycle." on trying to aptitude full-upgrade, safe-upgrade don't work either, using debian sid |
| 19:10.22 | FuzzyBrain | Hi, can someone tell me how do I gracefully kill (allow the process to finish what it's doing before exiting) a process using process name? |
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| 19:10.32 | computergeeksjw | I have a Mac running OS X that syncs with Google Reader so I want it to be the same for bth computers, that and this one |
| 19:10.38 | asg | FuzzyBrain: pkill |
| 19:10.39 | racecar56 | FuzzyBrain: signal 9 is the only one that dosen't |
| 19:11.08 | racecar56 | FuzzyBrain: use pkill as asg said |
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| 19:12.08 | FuzzyBrain | pkill kills the process abruptly. I am trying to create a script to stop torrent client at certain time & then shut down the machine |
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| 19:13.04 | asg | FuzzyBrain: then just shutdown the machine. It will send appropriate signals to the torrent client and, if it cannot shut it down gracefully, will give it the finger. |
| 19:13.16 | Woodi | FuzzyBrain: it depends on program you want to kill... type: man kill |
| 19:13.29 | stew | pkill sends SIGTERM by default |
| 19:13.35 | stew | (but can send any signal) |
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| 19:16.07 | EagleScreen | hi am going to install Debian |
| 19:16.55 | EagleScreen | my laptop cannot boot a testing image, but boot stable image, so i am going to install stable (base system only) and later upgrade to testing |
| 19:17.30 | EagleScreen | my home is ext4 and i do not want to loose it, and stable cannot manage ext4 filesystems |
| 19:17.48 | justin | EagleScreen: /msg dpkg kmuto |
| 19:17.59 | EagleScreen | kmuto image does not boot |
| 19:18.33 | EagleScreen | i will install root in ext3 and later i will install a 2.6.30 kernel to start using again my old ext4 home |
| 19:18.55 | Titan8990 | EagleScreen, then just do this: Install, leave /home partition alone (not mounted), upgrade, edit fstab to automount your /home partition |
| 19:18.59 | EagleScreen | but what happened with the home in ext3? |
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| 19:19.31 | Woodi | EagleScreen: do not do autopartition |
| 19:19.32 | Titan8990 | EagleScreen, don't make a new /home, leave it as part of / and rm the contents before re-adding you existing home partition |
| 19:19.43 | sobersabre | hi. I am watching the /etc/inittab file, and I can see the lines like: |
| 19:19.53 | sobersabre | 2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2 |
| 19:20.30 | asg | and? |
| 19:20.40 | sobersabre | can anything go wrong if I say put the getty speed to 153600 ? |
| 19:20.45 | EagleScreen | i understand, but i have a dude, what happens if i do not remove the home files under / before add the ext4 as new home? |
| 19:21.11 | sobersabre | I have a terrible feeling that whan polling over large outputs (e.g. while following a compilation) |
| 19:21.13 | asg | sobersabre: try it on one of them and see. Most likely, it will either fail and default back or you won't see any difference. |
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| 19:21.32 | Woodi | EagleScreen: probably nothing, files in /home on / will be not visible |
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| 19:21.38 | sobersabre | asg: I think this can improve my compilation speed. |
| 19:21.52 | asg | sobersabre: switching to another vt will also do that |
| 19:22.08 | EagleScreen | ok thanks, if lucky nex time i am here i will be in Debian |
| 19:22.18 | Woodi | gcc > /dev/null ? |
| 19:22.28 | sobersabre | asg: when I'm using redirection, at what speeds does the *writing* occur ? |
| 19:22.33 | sobersabre | at what getty's been told to do ? |
| 19:22.35 | asg | sobersabre: also, run your compile in a screen session and detatch it |
| 19:22.36 | ranix | EagleScreen: remember, the best IRC client is irssi |
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| 19:22.52 | sobersabre | asg: I do that, but not always. |
| 19:22.54 | Woodi | EagleScreen: GL |
| 19:23.02 | computergeeksjw | Does anyone know of an RSS feed reader for Debian that synchronizes with Google Reader? |
| 19:23.04 | Titan8990 | ranix, xchat or erc.... |
| 19:23.08 | ranix | !irssi |
| 19:23.08 | dpkg | from memory, irssi is the best <IRC> client ever. "aptitude install irssi" and read http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup . See also http://irssi.org/documentation/faq . http://www.irssi.org/ #irssi on open.ircnet.net and irc.freenode.net. |
| 19:23.11 | asg | sobersabre: does it help? |
| 19:23.16 | ranix | Titan8990: irssi is the best irc client ever |
| 19:23.21 | ranix | Titan8990: this is undisputed fact |
| 19:23.27 | Titan8990 | lol |
| 19:23.30 | EagleScreen | oh is it for irc in tty ? |
| 19:23.37 | sobersabre | asg: I'm not compiling anything, I'm just doing a thought-experiment. |
| 19:23.39 | sobersabre | :) |
| 19:23.48 | sobersabre | before compilation. |
| 19:24.05 | Woodi | sobersabre: use screen anyway :) |
| 19:24.05 | sobersabre | I noticed there's a serious difference between compiling same codebase on freebsd and debian. |
| 19:24.09 | Titan8990 | ranix, "best" is subjective.... i would go with something more like "most configurable" or "most features" |
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| 19:24.22 | sobersabre | serious is noticeable. |
| 19:24.24 | ranix | Titan8990: irssi is the best irc client ever |
| 19:24.35 | safruhani | why? |
| 19:24.38 | sobersabre | Titan8990: irssi is indeed the best irc client. |
| 19:24.41 | asg | sobersabre: basically, anything that doesn't write to the screen will not be limited by the baudrate of the getty. Also, FreeBSD and Debian are not likely to be using the same toolchains versions so that's not a good comparison. |
| 19:25.14 | sobersabre | asg: I don't think there's a serious difference in performance of sub-sub-versions of gcc/ld on both these systems. |
| 19:25.21 | ranix | Titan8990: some bizarro graphical client might be better for you. However, you must still acknowledge that while you do not use the best client, it is the best client |
| 19:25.28 | asg | sobersabre: also, BSD and Linux kernels do different things with filesystem caching which will also affect your results. |
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| 19:25.47 | sobersabre | asg: yes. that one is taken. ... didn't think of that. |
| 19:25.49 | Titan8990 | ranix, IMO being able to run out of EMACs makes erc > irissi... but again, "best" is subjective |
| 19:26.17 | karrotx | i want to install mailman but i dont want to install apache2 |
| 19:26.20 | karrotx | is that possible? |
| 19:26.28 | sobersabre | asg: although i did look at fs performance comparison graphs, there were no SERIOUS differences. |
| 19:26.40 | safruhani | computergeeksjw: i use mozilla prism with google reader, it is an easy way |
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| 19:26.49 | ranix | Titan8990: no it's not |
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| 19:27.10 | sobersabre | asg: will i be wrong assuming that both systems write an output module from memory ? |
| 19:27.12 | Titan8990 | ranix, best is not subjective? |
| 19:27.14 | asg | sobersabre: based on their tests on their hardware. Basically, unless you need it compiled *NOW* and *QUICKLY*, just compile overnight and be done with it. |
| 19:27.28 | computergeeksjw | safruhani How do you set up Prism? |
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| 19:27.37 | ranix | Titan8990: that is correct. irssi is best |
| 19:27.39 | sobersabre | asg: I am considering a compile farm. So I'm ... thinking aloud. |
| 19:27.39 | computergeeksjw | and will it work with PowerPC |
| 19:27.59 | Titan8990 | ranix, and gentoo is the best... its still subjective |
| 19:28.06 | ranix | Titan8990: no, that's just wrong |
| 19:28.17 | Titan8990 | is done |
| 19:28.22 | ranix | yhbt |
| 19:28.27 | computergeeksjw | seriously, is there a way to block a certain user? |
| 19:28.28 | sobersabre | JohnDeer is the best, much better than gentoo or debian. |
| 19:28.29 | safruhani | computergeeksjw: /home/username/prism/prism -webapp google.reader@prism.app |
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| 19:28.52 | sobersabre | computergeeksjw: what do you want to block: a low kick or a baseball bat hit ? |
| 19:29.05 | asg | sobersabre: a distcc type farm? |
| 19:29.11 | infantejg | como verifico mi version del gnome en lenny? |
| 19:29.12 | sobersabre | smthg like that. |
| 19:29.39 | asg | infantejg: dpkg -l | grep gnome |
| 19:29.43 | computergeeksjw | safrihani How do you install Prism? |
| 19:29.46 | sobersabre | it doesn't write to the terminal though. |
| 19:29.52 | infantejg | muchas gracias |
| 19:29.57 | asg | de nada |
| 19:29.58 | sobersabre | anyway, asg thanks for the ideas. |
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| 19:30.08 | asg | sobersabre: good luck with the project |
| 19:30.14 | sobersabre | :) |
| 19:30.46 | sobersabre | ciao che. |
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| 19:31.23 | safruhani | computergeeksjw: http://people.mozilla.com/~mfinkle/prism/prism-0.9.en-US.linux-i686.tar.bz2 |
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| 19:32.15 | computergeeksjw | safruhani: Thanks! downloading now |
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| 19:33.16 | foo-nix | I have this setup: http://pastebin.com/m44df6a1c but after /etc/init.d/networking there is no wpa_supplicant process running (nor dow my roaming work :) ). Should it run? |
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| 19:34.31 | safruhani | computergeeksjw: use and spread it to rest of the world ;) |
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| 19:34.54 | computergeeksjw | safruhani: Still have to set it up first |
| 19:35.05 | computergeeksjw | I don't have the fastest connection :) |
| 19:35.10 | computergeeksjw | 1 MB left |
| 19:35.17 | computergeeksjw | of 7.9 |
| 19:35.46 | safruhani | no setting up, easy to use, try and find out |
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| 19:36.05 | computergeeksjw | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:36.30 | computergeeksjw | what was the command you gave me |
| 19:36.32 | racecar56 | how do i enable xorg ctrl+alt+backspace restart |
| 19:36.34 | MNZ | hi. Where do I find the gstreamer jack backened? I already installed the good/bad/ugly plugins, but haven't got it |
| 19:36.36 | computergeeksjw | to run prism? |
| 19:36.46 | safruhani | computergeeksjw: yes run |
| 19:37.01 | computergeeksjw | no, what was the command |
| 19:37.27 | computergeeksjw | racecar56: isn't it enabled by default |
| 19:37.33 | foo-nix | What starts the wpa_supplicant and wpa_cli in debian? Does the networking init script does this somehow? |
| 19:37.51 | racecar56 | computergeeksjw: well it dosen't seem to do anything |
| 19:37.58 | computergeeksjw | oh |
| 19:38.00 | MNZ | nvm LS |
| 19:38.02 | MNZ | :S* |
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| 19:38.26 | safruhani | computergeeksjw: ok ? |
| 19:38.27 | computergeeksjw | safruhani How do you run prism? |
| 19:38.44 | safruhani | computergeeksjw: cd to directory and ./prism |
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| 19:39.15 | computergeeksjw | safruhani: bash: ./prism: cannot execute binary file |
| 19:39.40 | safruhani | i'm checking |
| 19:40.11 | Zvpun | a friend of mine has a quota problem: quotas says she uses 665M in her home dir yet "du -sh ~" says she has only 258 M. Can you help us please? |
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| 19:40.44 | Woodi | Zvpun: what about mails in /var/mailher ? |
| 19:41.05 | safruhani | computergeeksjw: cd /home/username/prism |
| 19:41.12 | safruhani | computergeeksjw: ./prism |
| 19:41.15 | computergeeksjw | safruhani I'm there |
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| 19:41.21 | Zvpun | Woodi: they are listed seperatly and dont count for home |
| 19:41.26 | computergeeksjw | stephen@g4:~/prism$ ./prism |
| 19:41.28 | computergeeksjw | bash: ./prism: cannot execute binary file |
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| 19:42.02 | Woodi | Zvpun: maybe she have many temp files or cache somewhere ? |
| 19:42.23 | Zvpun | Woodi: but why does du not show them? relogin doesnt change it. |
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| 19:44.03 | safruhani | computergeeksjw: this is my prism directory : http://qurl.com/bqyhl |
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| 19:44.03 | racecar56 | wow |
| 19:44.03 | safruhani | ! |
| 19:44.03 | racecar56 | what the heck were all those leaves in a row for? is it one of those weird things that happen? |
| 19:44.03 | racecar56 | ive seen that before |
| 19:44.03 | computergeeksjw | safruhani colorful! |
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| 19:44.12 | safruhani | computergeeksjw: yes beatfiul colors :) |
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| 19:44.31 | computergeeksjw | mine has the same content |
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| 19:45.03 | abrotman | racecar56: google "netsplit" |
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| 19:47.10 | abrotman | gets a leaf blower for christel |
| 19:47.34 | safruhani | computergeeksjw: in your extracted folder, is there a bin file ? |
| 19:47.42 | pickcoder | abrotman: hah.. I just made a similar comment in another channel |
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| 19:47.54 | computergeeksjw | I think prism is a binary file |
| 19:48.13 | computergeeksjw | -rw-r--r-- 1 stephen stephen 354 2008-03-05 17:13 application.ini |
| 19:48.13 | computergeeksjw | drwxr-xr-x 3 stephen stephen 4096 2008-03-05 17:15 chrome |
| 19:48.13 | computergeeksjw | drwxr-xr-x 2 stephen stephen 4096 2008-03-03 13:50 components |
| 19:48.13 | computergeeksjw | drwxr-xr-x 3 stephen stephen 4096 2008-03-03 13:50 defaults |
| 19:48.13 | computergeeksjw | drwxr-xr-x 2 stephen stephen 4096 2008-03-05 17:15 extensions |
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| 19:48.28 | computergeeksjw | oops |
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| 19:48.42 | computergeeksjw | didn't know that would happen |
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| 19:50.18 | computergeeksjw | could it be that the binary is only for i386? I'm running PowerPC |
| 19:50.22 | racecar56 | computergeeksjw: been there done that |
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| 19:50.36 | racecar56 | computergeeksjw: got kicked for accidentally pasting TONS of text |
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| 19:52.43 | computergeeksjw | :) |
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| 19:52.53 | computergeeksjw | nick computergeeksjw_away |
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| 19:54.42 | Martin_vW | Hello, I have made changes to apache config files, and I would like to see a diff of my changes so I can undo some of them. Is it possible to get the original config files without restoring them with dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 19:54.44 | FuriousRage | i have managed somehow unset PATH, so now when i try just about any command i get command not found, how to restore this? |
| 19:55.10 | Martin_vW | FuriousRage: just in your current session? Close and reopen the shell. |
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| 19:55.35 | FuriousRage | Martin_vW: i was editing /etc/profile to add java path |
| 19:55.42 | abrotman | or re-source the file that set your pat |
| 19:55.43 | abrotman | path |
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| 19:56.03 | abrotman | FuriousRage: ". /etc/profile" |
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| 19:56.39 | Martin_vW | FuriousRage: this is a copy of my /etc/profile: http://pastie.org/584426 |
| 19:56.49 | FuriousRage | abrotman: omg thanks, it works now :D yay, i can ls, i felt to left out before :D now to find another guide how to realyl set java default home since the guide i used didnt work :d |
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| 19:57.06 | abrotman | FuriousRage: if you install java with the debian packages, shuldn't be a problem |
| 19:57.24 | Martin_vW | FuriousRage: if just sourcing the profile file helped, closing and reopening the shell should have worked too? |
| 19:57.30 | FuriousRage | Martin_vW: i had this (with out the commends) http://pastie.org/584429 |
| 19:57.43 | FuriousRage | re-open the shell/"re-"su didnt work |
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| 20:01.52 | foetus | evening:). |
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| 20:02.41 | foetus | are xdeltas for the latest update-dvd available? |
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| 20:03.39 | dutchfish | !tell foetus about jigdo |
| 20:03.49 | FuriousRage | thanks all, i got it working now :d |
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| 20:04.43 | foetus | dutchfish: oh, no, not jigdo..:-/ |
| 20:05.47 | foetus | xdelta is what i need.. |
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| 20:07.03 | abrotman | foetus: jigdo is the closest .. or just use the -update- ISOs |
| 20:07.55 | foetus | abrotman: ok, thanks.. i will try it tomorrow.. |
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| 20:08.40 | pem | hi all |
| 20:08.54 | pem | i've a problem with debian, apache and cgi-bin |
| 20:09.06 | pem | cgi-bin in public_html |
| 20:09.29 | pem | in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default i've add these line: http://dpaste.com/80677/ |
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| 20:09.56 | pem | and in apache2.conf i've added this line: ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/home/*/public_html/cgi-bin/" |
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| 20:10.11 | pem | but cgi-bin not work. anyone can help me??? |
| 20:10.28 | logyati | hey guys, i have a weird problem here... the time in my etch server is not passing by! i mean time freeze... the DATE command always return the same date and time! |
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| 20:10.57 | foetus | dutchfish: ok, thanks for the dpkg-message. i will try it. |
| 20:11.04 | dutchfish | foetus, yw |
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| 20:13.02 | abrotman | pem: a2enmod cgi |
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| 20:14.34 | uman | what's the "debian way" to install the browser jre plugin? |
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| 20:15.10 | centolo | uman: apt-get ? |
| 20:15.33 | pem | abrotman: thnx |
| 20:15.40 | ranix | uman: probably the package sun-java6-plugin installed via apt |
| 20:15.47 | abrotman | pem: you can probably remove the other bits you added |
| 20:15.47 | mederEsite | open office fails to open a simple .doc, "general input/output error" i googled, dozens of threads say kill your profile, i killed my profile, restarted whole pc, same thing. |
| 20:15.52 | mederEsite | or should i be asking elsewhere? |
| 20:16.01 | abrotman | mederEsite: try as another user |
| 20:16.02 | uman | ranix: thanks |
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| 20:16.19 | mederEsite | abrotman: i dont mind killing my profile, but i have way too many things open now to try this second |
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| 20:16.37 | computergeeksjw | mederEstite: is the file on your hard drive or removable media? |
| 20:16.46 | uman | The thing is |
| 20:16.50 | mederEsite | oh. |
| 20:16.53 | uman | that wants to pull in Iceweasel and a bunch of other shit |
| 20:16.55 | mederEsite | AH. i think i know what it is |
| 20:17.00 | uman | I'm running a Firefox trunk build |
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| 20:17.25 | mederEsite | I'm using smb:// network link to connect to a network drive, and I actually can't even copy files from there in SOME CIRCUMSTANCES |
| 20:17.27 | computergeeksjw | I opened a file on a flash drive, forgot that it was open, and unplugged the flash drive (no unmount or eject) and then I tried to save the file |
| 20:17.39 | mederEsite | that's probably it |
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| 20:17.43 | pem | abrotman: libapache2-mod-fastcgi ? |
| 20:17.44 | computergeeksjw | I got the I/o error that you did |
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| 20:17.50 | marco | hey |
| 20:17.52 | marco | a question |
| 20:17.53 | mederEsite | has anyone had issues using smb:// to copy files from a network drive? |
| 20:17.55 | marco | i got a ext3 drive |
| 20:18.05 | cast | mederEsite: lots of people. |
| 20:18.15 | mederEsite | is there a common solution? |
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| 20:18.43 | marco | which is totally empty (find /mnt/mountpoint shows nothing except lost+found, and du -h /mnt/mountpoint says 12,0 K in total) |
| 20:19.05 | marco | yet, df -h shows that there are 129M occupied |
| 20:19.07 | marco | why? |
| 20:19.33 | computergeeksjw | marco: possibly hidden files/folders taking up space |
| 20:19.46 | computergeeksjw | though it's odd that there would be 129m of it |
| 20:20.14 | marco | computergeeksjw: ls -lah in the root folder shows only lost-found |
| 20:20.24 | marco | computergeeksjw: may it be the journal file? |
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| 20:20.30 | SPEED | hola alguen vivo'? |
| 20:20.30 | computergeeksjw | I wouldn't know |
| 20:21.22 | computergeeksjw | marco Is anything in the lost+found folder? |
| 20:21.29 | marco | hmm... i am on a GPRS connection so unable to use google... what is the command to remove the journal from an ext3 partition (and so turning it into a ext2 drive) |
| 20:21.35 | marco | computergeeksjw: negative |
| 20:21.49 | computergeeksjw | I've never known what the lost+found folder even is :) |
| 20:21.50 | marco | find shows nothing, nd executing ls -lah in the folder also shows nothing |
| 20:22.12 | marco | it is for damaged files found by fsck after severe corruption, AFAIR |
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| 20:24.33 | xand | !es |
| 20:24.33 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 20:24.38 | xand | SPEED: ^ |
| 20:24.47 | centolo | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:24.56 | SPEED | xand, |
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| 20:25.02 | abrotman | maybe ask #kernel or ##kernel |
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| 20:25.36 | pem | abrotman: what mod of apache2 i must install for cgi-support? |
| 20:25.38 | pem | :| |
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| 20:27.29 | abrotman | i told oyu already |
| 20:28.03 | pem | a2enmod cgi ? |
| 20:28.24 | pem | apt say me "not found" :| |
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| 20:33.12 | Martin_vW | marco: it could be the inode table. The only way to reduce it's size is by reformatting with a lower inode ratio (-T largefile4 e.g.), but that only makes sense if you plan to store only few big files. |
| 20:33.25 | Kobaz | what's the proper way to set samba passwords these days... smbpasswd writes the /etc/smbpasswd file,. but this file doesn't seem to be used at all by samba 3.4... passdb.tdb seems to be the file |
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| 20:34.28 | Abo | hey guys |
| 20:34.32 | ajavid | hi |
| 20:34.32 | Abo | I have a problem |
| 20:34.40 | Martin_vW | logyati: is it possible that your hardware clock is damaged? Does the clock work if you are in the BIOS? |
| 20:34.42 | ajavid | we have a solution |
| 20:34.53 | Abo | I suddenly noticed that my ssh port which in ssh/sshd_config is untouched |
| 20:34.56 | Abo | changed to 22 |
| 20:34.58 | Martin_vW | I have made changes to apache config files, and I would like to see a diff of my changes so I can undo some of them. Is it possible to get the original config files without restoring them with dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 20:35.04 | ajavid | Abo, ssh is 22 |
| 20:35.11 | marco | Martin_vW: i managed to remove the journal... now du -h reports 8K used :) |
| 20:35.11 | ajavid | Abo, it is always 22.. |
| 20:35.12 | Abo | I restarted ssh with my ssh port set in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and it remains 22!! |
| 20:35.15 | Abo | why? |
| 20:35.18 | ajavid | Abo, becasue. |
| 20:35.24 | Abo | ajavid I have specified another port in that file |
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| 20:35.28 | ajavid | oh you have |
| 20:35.30 | Abo | and it used to work till today |
| 20:35.41 | ajavid | so what do you want, port 22 for ssh or not? |
| 20:35.52 | ajavid | you can change it and restart sshd and you're good to go (open any firewalls) |
| 20:35.55 | Abo | and I wonder how the heck can it stop working on that port just like that without anyone doing anything |
| 20:36.04 | Abo | I do not want port 22 |
| 20:36.14 | Abo | Port 5013 |
| 20:36.21 | Martin_vW | marco: are you sure you don't need the journal? I would always prefer the fast fsck over some hundreds meg more free space. |
| 20:36.28 | Abo | and still when I restart ssh it works on 22 |
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| 20:36.41 | Abo | It worked since months but today it fck3d up, and I did nothing |
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| 20:37.05 | Martin_vW | Abo: one can supply a port via the -p option to sshd. Does the initscript specify this option? |
| 20:37.18 | Martin_vW | Abo: if so, this could override the sshd_config setting. |
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| 20:37.57 | ajavid | Abo, are you on debian lenny? |
| 20:38.17 | Abo | no it doesnt specify that Martin_vW |
| 20:38.22 | ajavid | Abo, I just logged in to both a sid machine and a stable machine and changed sshd_config port 22 to port 55000 and restarted, and its fine |
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| 20:38.25 | Martin_vW | Abo: you can also try to run /usr/sbin/sshd -d (up to -ddd) to debug it. |
| 20:38.26 | ajavid | ssh: connect to host laptop port 22: Connection refused |
| 20:38.27 | Abo | ajavid on debian etch |
| 20:38.36 | ajavid | it seems to work fine |
| 20:38.43 | Abo | it doesnt work fine here |
| 20:39.01 | ajavid | but the problem is that you changed your sshd port and restart ssh and still it only works on port 22? |
| 20:39.04 | Kobaz | what's the proper way to set samba passwords these days... smbpasswd writes the /etc/samba/smbpasswd file,. but this file doesn't seem to be used at all by samba 3.4... passdb.tdb seems to be the file |
| 20:39.19 | Abo | ajavid exactly, and before it was working on the port I've specified |
| 20:39.19 | ajavid | Kobaz, smbpasswd -a username |
| 20:39.27 | Kobaz | yeah, that doesn't work |
| 20:39.29 | ajavid | Kobaz, man smbpasswd |
| 20:39.41 | trumpen | why doesn't aptitude warn me to reboot after a kernel upgrade? (on Lenny) |
| 20:39.41 | Abo | but today I found it this way and heck... I didnt modified anything.. |
| 20:39.49 | ajavid | Kobaz, check config as to which kind of auth you have enabled |
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| 20:39.55 | pem | ok =) guys thanks im going to sleep :) bye |
| 20:40.00 | Kobaz | ajavid: password is always invalid |
| 20:40.02 | Kobaz | hmm |
| 20:40.11 | Kobaz | i don't have any auth specificly specified, lemme see what the default is |
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| 20:40.14 | ajavid | Kobaz, how are you testing? |
| 20:40.21 | ajavid | Kobaz, what is your security level? |
| 20:40.34 | Kobaz | security = user |
| 20:40.43 | Kobaz | trying to connect from a windows client |
| 20:40.48 | ajavid | as user, smbclient -L localhost |
| 20:40.57 | ajavid | enter credentials you created with smbpasswd |
| 20:41.03 | Kobaz | Enter kobaz's password: |
| 20:41.03 | Kobaz | session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE |
| 20:41.15 | ajavid | pastebin your smb.conf |
| 20:41.28 | Abo | does anyone got any idea how the heck to change the ssh port again? |
| 20:41.41 | ajavid | Kobaz, and everything else is being done right? password is right? user exists on the system? |
| 20:42.11 | Kobaz | http://pastebin.com/m54072c65 |
| 20:42.12 | ajavid | Kobaz, make sure to do this as user and not root, root is diabled |
| 20:42.15 | marco | Martin_vW: i just wanted to verify if there are really no files left |
| 20:42.18 | marco | that's all |
| 20:42.22 | marco | ^^ |
| 20:42.33 | marco | thanks to you all |
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| 20:43.18 | ajavid | !dbugs #528134 |
| 20:43.23 | dpkg | #528134:N[samba-common] samba-common: smbpasswd -a user does not creat /etc/samba/smbpasswd file (unreproducible); Mon, 11 May 2009 00:06:01 UTC [] |
| 20:43.50 | ajavid | Found in version samba/2:3.2.5-4lenny2 |
| 20:43.53 | ajavid | unlucky. |
| 20:44.01 | ajavid | Kobaz, read the bugreport and go from there |
| 20:44.40 | Abo | does anyone got any idea how the heck to change the ssh port back again? |
| 20:44.40 | Kobaz | well the smbpasswd file exists |
| 20:45.06 | Kobaz | ajavid: what's the link to the bug? |
| 20:45.10 | ajavid | oh |
| 20:45.17 | ajavid | I thought you said it didn't write the password file |
| 20:45.21 | Kobaz | no |
| 20:45.22 | ajavid | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=528134 |
| 20:45.25 | ajavid | nm |
| 20:45.27 | Kobaz | it's not reading that password file, i don't think |
| 20:45.33 | ajavid | in your config you have commented it out |
| 20:45.34 | ajavid | why? |
| 20:45.37 | Kobaz | the only password file samba has open it seems, is passwd.tdb |
| 20:45.38 | justin | Kobaz: did you modify your samba config? |
| 20:45.51 | ajavid | justin, http://pastebin.com/m54072c65 |
| 20:45.55 | Kobaz | justin: i was playing with forcing the location of smbpasswd, and that didn't help |
| 20:46.01 | ewook | openvpn truly gives me a headbut.. |
| 20:46.10 | justin | Kobaz: the default samba config works just fine, if you changed things,you probably broke it |
| 20:46.20 | ajavid | Kobaz, try this |
| 20:46.22 | Kobaz | i use the same samba config on like 20 other servers |
| 20:46.27 | ajavid | Kobaz, rm smb.conf |
| 20:46.28 | Kobaz | but this is a newer samba version |
| 20:46.31 | ajavid | Kobaz, and /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 20:46.41 | ajavid | Kobaz, or backup your file I mean |
| 20:46.49 | FuriousRage | amacing, lspci showed my what i thouht "odd" pci-e network card, downloaded the drivers and modprobe:d it and it works |
| 20:46.50 | ajavid | start from a fresh new debian config file |
| 20:46.52 | FuriousRage | amazing¨' |
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| 20:47.27 | ajavid | Kobaz, backup your smb.conf, take it out of /etc/samba/ and do the confmiss factoid to get a default file, and go from there |
| 20:48.01 | Kobaz | can't i just use the one in /usr/share/samba |
| 20:48.07 | ajavid | whatever man |
| 20:49.13 | justin | yeah, the one in there is the default |
| 20:49.40 | Abo | anyone got any idea how to fix my ssh server?! |
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| 20:50.34 | justin | Abo: grep -i port /etc/ssh/* |
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| 20:51.44 | Abo | /etc/ssh/sshd_config:#Port 5013 |
| 20:51.51 | justin | Abo: fail. |
| 20:51.54 | Abo | I tryed to comment it |
| 20:51.58 | Abo | here |
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| 20:52.04 | Abo | /etc/ssh/sshd_config:Port 5013 |
| 20:52.08 | Abo | restarted it now |
| 20:52.11 | Abo | same 22 working |
| 20:52.15 | justin | Abo: STOP |
| 20:52.20 | justin | Abo: grep -i port /etc/ssh/* |
| 20:52.23 | justin | Abo: pastebin the output of that |
| 20:52.26 | Abo | /etc/ssh/ssh_config:# Port 22 |
| 20:52.29 | Abo | ok |
| 20:52.50 | Kobaz | ajavid: |
| 20:52.51 | Kobaz | Enter kobaz's password: |
| 20:52.51 | Kobaz | Server requested plaintext password but 'client plaintext auth' is disabled |
| 20:52.56 | Abo | /etc/ssh/ssh_config:# Port 22 /etc/ssh/sshd_config:# What ports, IPs and protocols we listen for /etc/ssh/sshd_config:#Port 5013 |
| 20:52.57 | Abo | here |
| 20:52.59 | Abo | this is all of it |
| 20:53.03 | justin | Abo: pastebin the output of that |
| 20:53.53 | Abo | http://pastebin.com/mb250ab8 |
| 20:54.05 | yangp | I am wondering where does the database build for /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
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| 20:54.21 | Kobaz | ajavid: i turned off encrypted password, and turned on plaintext passwords, and now it works |
| 20:54.23 | ajavid | seems fine |
| 20:54.28 | bob489 | hi, can someone please tell me what version of the kernel is in squeeze? |
| 20:54.28 | ajavid | Kobaz, I see |
| 20:54.29 | bob489 | thanks |
| 20:54.39 | ajavid | bob489, .26 I beleive |
| 20:54.45 | bob489 | ahh |
| 20:54.48 | yangp | bob489: 2.6.26-2 |
| 20:54.53 | bob489 | explains why my i7 wont boot |
| 20:55.04 | ajavid | bob489, /msg dpkg kmuto |
| 20:55.07 | Kobaz | ajavid: the config from /usr/share/samba didn't work, until i monkied with it and enabled plaintext auth |
| 20:55.09 | justin | Abo: netstat -plunt|grep sshd |
| 20:55.11 | ajavid | bob489, stable + .30 |
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| 20:55.26 | Abo | justin, tcp6 0 0 :::22 :::* LISTEN 16793/sshd |
| 20:55.30 | Abo | whats this shit???????? |
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| 20:56.08 | Kobaz | ajavid: and now it works in windows too... yay |
| 20:56.11 | ajavid | pkill -9 sshd; /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 20:56.17 | ajavid | maybe... |
| 20:56.20 | justin | no |
| 20:56.31 | justin | kill -9 16793; /etc/init.d/ssh stop;/etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 20:56.32 | ajavid | oh |
| 20:56.32 | cast | could just /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 20:56.33 | ajavid | tcp6 |
| 20:56.41 | ajavid | justin, I see |
| 20:56.46 | ajavid | cast, hasn't been working |
| 20:56.49 | justin | cast: theoretically, who knows what he did though |
| 20:56.54 | cast | ahh. |
| 20:56.54 | ajavid | cast, that is what we originally suggested |
| 20:57.02 | Abo | justin did that |
| 20:57.09 | Abo | and look, tcp6 0 0 :::22 :::* LISTEN 17198/sshd |
| 20:57.12 | cast | just tell him to install lsh \m/ |
| 20:57.17 | justin | Abo: grep -i port /etc/ssh/* |
| 20:57.33 | Abo | justin, same as I pasted on pastebin |
| 20:57.49 | justin | Abo: what you pastebind was also different from what you pasted here |
| 20:58.59 | Abo | http://pastebin.com/m774d3ae1 |
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| 21:00.13 | justin | Abo: what else did you do to break it like that? |
| 21:00.14 | Martin_vW | Abo: have you tried to stop your sshd and then run |
| 21:00.14 | Martin_vW | /usr/sbin/sshd -ddd |
| 21:00.26 | justin | yeah, that's a good idea |
| 21:00.39 | Martin_vW | That should print lots of debugging explanation that could possibly explain why the server chooses which port. |
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| 21:00.43 | justin | not sure if sshd will pick up another copy of sshd_config in another location like ~ |
| 21:00.48 | justin | X used to do that :) |
| 21:00.53 | Abo | LOL |
| 21:00.56 | Abo | it is working now |
| 21:01.08 | Abo | tcp6 0 0 :::5013 :::* LISTEN 17540/sshd |
| 21:01.15 | Abo | wtf i just restarted it one more time |
| 21:01.16 | Martin_vW | Then your initscript is doing something strange, or there is a faulty /etc/default/sshd or something |
| 21:01.17 | Abo | huh |
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| 21:01.45 | Martin_vW | e.g. SSHD_OPTS=-p22 could cause this |
| 21:01.58 | justin | I change the ssh with puppet, I swap out the sshd_config and restart it, works perfect every time |
| 21:02.19 | justin | s/ssh/ssh port/ |
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| 21:06.20 | Abo | ty for the help, later |
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| 21:08.28 | mederEsite | fastest way to recursively delete a directory named '.foo' ? |
| 21:08.33 | mederEsite | from cwd |
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| 21:13.39 | Martin_vW | Am I right that there is no really a way to compare configs in /etc with their packaged originals? I now did aptitude download, dpkg -x and diffed manually, that worked. If there's no tool, then I'd write one, I guess... |
| 21:14.06 | ewook | there's diff? |
| 21:14.23 | ajavid | read the whole thing first |
| 21:15.22 | Martin_vW | ewook: Yes, by saying "diffed manually" I meant I ran diff. The point is: I want a tool that will automagically get the original of a config file I specified and diff these two files, to see my local modifications. |
| 21:16.02 | ewook | that still happens when you do a apt-get and there's a diff in the configs, right? |
| 21:16.19 | ewook | but, usually you don't wanna alter the newer file as in your edit |
| 21:16.33 | Martin_vW | ewook: sorry, I don't understand your question |
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| 21:17.37 | ewook | Martin_vW: well, if you get a newer config from the apt-source, it usually prompts you about a newer config / differs from you original. so why do you have to diff it manually? |
| 21:17.57 | Martin_vW | I want to see the changes I made month ago, to decide which of them I should undo. |
| 21:18.42 | Martin_vW | There are no updates or new config files, I just decided that some or all of my changes back then were nonsense and I'd like to undo them. |
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| 21:32.20 | Wooga | can i somehow get the list of packages installed from sid for example? |
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| 21:33.39 | stew | Wooga: have a look at apt-show-versions |
| 21:34.30 | Wooga | stew: thanks! |
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| 21:42.27 | rafael | hi |
| 21:42.59 | rafael | i am going to start to use a ext4 partition as /home so i have to add it to /etc/fstab, any recommended option? |
| 21:43.38 | cast | up to you and your needs |
| 21:43.41 | cast | defaults are fine. |
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| 21:44.32 | dob1 | hi, how can i know if i am connected at 10mbps or 100mbps to the lan? |
| 21:44.52 | rafael | what must i set in <dump> and <pass> ? |
| 21:45.03 | konr | can you guys recommend me a couple of ncurses irc clients? Is BitchX available once again? |
| 21:45.09 | pickcoder | dob1: ethtool |
| 21:45.20 | adama_ | dob1: or mii-tool ethX |
| 21:45.23 | rafael | konr: i am using irssi tight now |
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| 21:45.53 | konr | rafael: hmmm, is there a way to add firefox-like tabs to it? |
| 21:46.01 | dob1 | thanks |
| 21:46.11 | rafael | konr: i have no idea |
| 21:46.44 | rafael | muat i add ANY option to my ext4 partition as /home ? |
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| 21:47.01 | konr | rafael: how do deal with multiple #channels? Doesn't it get a little confusing when you are in 15 or more channels? |
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| 21:47.38 | OltreIrc`38867 | !list |
| 21:47.38 | dpkg | oltreirc`38867: VATTENE VIA |
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| 21:47.59 | rafael | konr: run //join #channel to switch channels, but i am using it now for first time, do not domine it |
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| 21:52.25 | Wooga | how do i delete packages with 'deinstall' status from dpkg --get-selection list? |
| 21:52.42 | avu | aptitude purge '~c' |
| 21:52.46 | avu | if you want them all gone |
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| 21:52.54 | avu | it will delete their configuration though |
| 21:53.06 | Wooga | thanks |
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| 22:09.55 | cr3rzemjest | hi |
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| 22:10.44 | cr3rzemjest | how do i use mouse in addition to touchpad? i thought i could just plug it in and it would be detected as in pc... do i have to edit xorg.conf? |
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| 22:13.41 | Tramp | cr3rzemjest: I don't know much about this stuff - but do you have both devices configured in your xorg.conf - for me it "just works". |
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| 22:14.24 | Tramp | i.e. I have a 'Section "InputDevice"' for both mouse and touchpad |
| 22:14.51 | mederEsite | I'm trying to copy files from a shared network drive which I completely dont have root access to, multiple people are able to copy and share files who are on mac/linux/pc .. so I'm pretty sure the network drive *ISNT* the problem but it's just me.. when I try to copy it I get a network file read error - any clue? Maybe because I'm not "mounting" it as superuser? |
| 22:15.22 | mederEsite | or maybe I'm mounting it as su, but not copying as su? |
| 22:15.36 | mederEsite | i'm not doing this on the command line, but through Nautilus or whatever gnome's default thing is. |
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| 22:17.52 | macrobat | cr3rzemjest: hal can autodetect a mouse and you can have different settings for your mouse than your touchpad |
| 22:17.59 | Woodi | mederEsite: maybe try commend line ? it's samba/win share ? |
| 22:18.12 | mederEsite | Um |
| 22:18.27 | mederEsite | Woodi: I have no clue how to start w/ command line for samba.. what command should I use if its already mounted? |
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| 22:19.29 | Woodi | mederEsite: smbclient //<hostname>/<sharename> -U <username> |
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| 22:19.57 | Woodi | mederEsite: it's like ftp client |
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| 22:21.04 | wald0 | is there a way to know when xserver-xorg 7.4 will enter on testing ? |
| 22:21.50 | Titan8990 | Woodi, i think he wants to mount it.... mount -t cifs -o smb://<hostname>/<sharename> -o username <username> |
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| 22:22.39 | Woodi | Titan8990: right, but first he need to know if it is accesible... |
| 22:22.55 | cr3rzemjest | macrobat: so why didn't it detect my mouse.... i dont understand |
| 22:23.02 | cooldude13233 | is there any experts here with Debian Linux and UnrealIRCd with installing/compiling SSL? |
| 22:24.15 | tuantub | ls |
| 22:24.24 | tuantub | sr |
| 22:25.07 | Woodi | mederEsite: errr... "if its already mounted" then just 'cd' command and 'ls' then :) |
| 22:25.24 | mederEsite | I dont know what exact thing its mounted as |
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| 22:25.27 | mederEsite | if you get what i mean |
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| 22:25.28 | mederEsite | :p |
| 22:25.50 | mederEsite | where would i be able to see active "mounted" drives? |
| 22:25.56 | mederEsite | not in /mnt/ i guess |
| 22:26.04 | mederEsite | smb command and some arguments? |
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| 22:26.14 | mederEsite | i guess /mnt/ is like, real, and smb + command is virtual prob |
| 22:26.15 | Woodi | mederEsite: usually mount command... |
| 22:26.52 | Woodi | mederEsite: /mnt/ is just dir, mounts can be done wverywhere |
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| 22:28.32 | Titan8990 | mederEsite, cat /etc/mtab will show all mounted filesystems |
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| 22:28.56 | Titan8990 | mederEsite, or the mount command with no arguements will display the contents of /etc/mtab |
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| 22:32.17 | donkeyofdarkness | y halo thar |
| 22:32.38 | cast | hai |
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| 22:42.51 | mederEsite | huh |
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| 22:46.22 | mcgreg | hi |
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| 22:46.47 | mcgreg | it is possible to somehow set make to use 4 cpus? like pre-setting "-j 4" for make somewhere? |
| 22:47.36 | cast | yes. |
| 22:47.47 | cast | you do it via make -j 4 |
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| 22:47.50 | cast | looks around |
| 22:48.01 | mederEsite | what does debian use to mount network drives if smbclient isnt installed |
| 22:48.10 | mederEsite | maybe that's why it fails to copy the files mounted. |
| 22:48.17 | mederEsite | or if not that i don't know |
| 22:49.10 | mcgreg | cast: so, not possible? or you simply dont know? |
| 22:49.23 | donkeyofdarkness | nfs? |
| 22:49.25 | donkeyofdarkness | o_O |
| 22:49.36 | Titan8990 | mederEsite, i believe its parts of the smbfs package |
| 22:49.41 | mederEsite | oh. |
| 22:49.47 | mederEsite | i installed smbclient now |
| 22:49.52 | mederEsite | so i should use it instead of smbfs or whatever? |
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| 22:50.56 | Titan8990 | mederEsite, if you wanted to do something like automount, you would need to use smbfs |
| 22:51.00 | cast | mcgreg: sems a strange question, i suspect there's more to it - like you're using some kind of automated build infrastructure |
| 22:51.11 | mederEsite | Titan8990: how does automount differ from regular mount? |
| 22:51.38 | Titan8990 | mederEsite, one occurs automatically, and the other has to be mounted manually each time |
| 22:51.45 | mcgreg | cast: no really. the question. I donmt want to type "make -j 4" everytime. I want to make "make" use -j 4 ALWAYS. nothing more |
| 22:51.53 | cast | then make an alias |
| 22:52.25 | cast | make -j 4 can break some builds, or at least used to |
| 22:52.26 | Titan8990 | mcgreg, gentoo user? |
| 22:52.35 | mcgreg | Titan8990: no |
| 22:53.11 | macrobat | i guess there is somegeneral conf file for building |
| 22:53.51 | mcgreg | cast: I dont compile lot of things .. mesa / drm/ xorg-drivers - but okay.- an alias might be a solution, thank you |
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| 23:17.05 | aboyz | I got a command like this. "ftpasswd --passwd --name=test --uid=1001 --home=/mnt/raid5/vendors/test --shell=/bin/false" Is there some way to put it in a file called GO. so everytime I run GO john , it'll run this command "ftpasswd --passwd --name=john --uid=1002 --home=/mnt/raid5/vendors/john --shell=/bin/false" Also I need it also to create a directory "mkdir /mnt/raid5/vendors/john" Also the UID need to be change to UID=1002. Anyone know of a way to do this |
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| 23:23.41 | tuantub | aboyz: ftpasswd --passwd --name=test --uid=1001 --home=/mnt/raid5/vendors/test --shell=/bin/false |
| 23:24.03 | tuantub | aboyz: ftpasswd --passwd --name=test --uid=1001 --home=/mnt/raid5/vendors/$1 --shell=/bin/false |
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| 23:24.56 | tuantub | aboyz: $1 will be the parameter you pass to GO :) |
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| 23:25.08 | joltcan | aboyz: put it into a file, exchange '--name=john' for '--name=$1', chmod +x GO, then type './GO john' |
| 23:25.08 | konr | fhow do I increase the brightness of my laptop screen? |
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| 23:25.54 | joltcan | konr: can't you just press Fn + The little sun? |
| 23:26.21 | konr | joltcan: wow! I thought it was software-dependent |
| 23:26.41 | tuantub | konr: it's hardware-dependent ;) |
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| 23:27.03 | joltcan | konr: It might be the only thing that is NOT software-dependent. Worked on all my laptops running linux so far |
| 23:27.10 | joltcan | Well, good night ppl |
| 23:27.37 | konr | bye, and thanks! |
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| 23:32.12 | Evet | Which Proxy ARP software do you suggest? |
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| 23:49.28 | TrueDD | Good night all |
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