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| 00:00.13 | purplepenguins | as in, 77x and not 75x |
| 00:00.31 | Clint_ | its the default index.html |
| 00:00.43 | Clint_ | whats the list command |
| 00:00.56 | purplepenguins | ls -lah is one |
| 00:01.10 | abrotman | Clint_: the group probably doesn't have permission to delete |
| 00:01.10 | Clint_ | -rw-r--r-- |
| 00:01.14 | Clint_ | dosnt look like it |
| 00:01.18 | purplepenguins | okay |
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| 00:01.34 | Clint_ | so chmod 777? |
| 00:01.35 | purplepenguins | then do chmod g+w on the thing, i think |
| 00:01.36 | abrotman | Clint_: and ls -l . ? |
| 00:01.39 | abrotman | Clint_: NO |
| 00:01.48 | abrotman | using 777 is almost always *wrong* |
| 00:01.57 | purplepenguins | 777 is bad |
| 00:02.04 | Clint_ | -rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data 45 Aug 19 23:09 index.html |
| 00:02.05 | Clint_ | 226 Transfer complete |
| 00:02.05 | jelly-home | 666 is evil |
| 00:02.06 | zinx | 0777 is extremely bad |
| 00:02.10 | loki_ | yea g+w sounds like ti would take care of it |
| 00:02.14 | zinx | 1777 can be ok if you're using it in the right spot(s) |
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| 00:02.19 | Clint_ | ok setting |
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| 00:02.30 | zinx | (on temp directories, namely) :P |
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| 00:02.33 | purplepenguins | 775 is about the laxest perms you should reasonable do |
| 00:02.34 | jelly-home | zinx: it can make things a bit sticky |
| 00:02.50 | purplepenguins | lol, i see what you did there jelly-home |
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| 00:02.54 | zinx | jelly-home: hehe |
| 00:03.15 | Clint_ | ftp> delete index.html |
| 00:03.15 | Clint_ | 550 index.html: Permission denied |
| 00:03.46 | Clint_ | the webmaster user is part of the group www-data |
| 00:03.53 | Clint_ | i did adduser webmaster www-data |
| 00:04.18 | purplepenguins | check /etc/group to make sure |
| 00:04.20 | Clint_ | ive never goten this to work before |
| 00:04.22 | Clint_ | ok checking |
| 00:04.55 | Clint_ | www-data:x:33:webmaster |
| 00:05.28 | Clint_ | yeah looks like its there |
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| 00:06.30 | Clint_ | restart apache and proftpd? |
| 00:07.41 | Clint_ | dang. didnt do it ether |
| 00:08.11 | purplepenguins | yeah |
| 00:08.13 | purplepenguins | maybe |
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| 00:09.41 | Clint_ | maby...? |
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| 00:10.39 | purplepenguins | did you change the whole directory |
| 00:10.42 | purplepenguins | or just one file |
| 00:10.51 | purplepenguins | you should make all of the home directory writeable to the user |
| 00:10.57 | purplepenguins | err, the group |
| 00:10.59 | Clint_ | i chowned www-data:www-data /var/www |
| 00:11.03 | Clint_ | and the index.html in it |
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| 00:11.21 | purplepenguins | yes, but you're connecting with webmaster |
| 00:11.35 | purplepenguins | and you did chmod g+w on the whole directory? |
| 00:11.44 | Clint_ | negative |
| 00:11.46 | Clint_ | doing it |
| 00:12.25 | Clint_ | ahhh |
| 00:12.27 | Clint_ | that did it |
| 00:12.30 | Clint_ | :D |
| 00:12.34 | Clint_ | Gracious!!! |
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| 00:13.49 | rektide | how do i create a virtual lan? |
| 00:13.57 | rektide | i want to add 10.0.0.2/24 to my host |
| 00:14.13 | rektide | but i dont want the host trying to send data to that address over its eth0 |
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| 00:19.46 | loki_ | how do i change a program permissions to allow my user to use it. it says i dont haver permission |
| 00:20.03 | abrotman | whic program? |
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| 00:21.27 | loki_ | kppp |
| 00:21.55 | abrotman | put your user in the dialout group |
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| 00:23.52 | loki_ | ok and is "adduser dialout <username>"? |
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| 00:24.56 | gerry214 | i just enabled ipv4 forwarding in sysctl.conf ,do i need to restart a daemon for this to take effect? I want to avoid system restart or network restart script |
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| 00:26.33 | Titan8990 | gerry214, echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
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| 00:28.18 | gerry214 | thanks, i have done that, still not getting a return ping from the other system tho |
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| 00:30.05 | loki_ | when id my username it shows it being part of the group "dialout(20)" but when i try to open the program it says permission denied |
| 00:30.39 | gerry214 | the interface of the main network is eth1, the box that is trying to pass through this debian is attached to vmnet8 (virtual) |
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| 00:32.26 | Titan8990 | are you using nat for the two interfaces? |
| 00:32.39 | abrotman | !ipmasq |
| 00:32.39 | dpkg | If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), aptitude install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/ |
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| 00:33.03 | Titan8990 | abrotman, thats no fun |
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| 00:33.46 | Titan8990 | option 1 i mean |
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| 00:34.10 | abrotman | Titan8990: yeah .. but usually it does exactly what they want .. and it's easier |
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| 00:35.26 | gerry214 | ipmasq wasn't installed, apt-getting that now ty |
| 00:35.30 | Murrlin | good evening |
| 00:35.47 | gerry214 | ok, ping is passing through now, thanks everyone |
| 00:36.19 | Murrlin | I'm playing with a debian netinst cd. for some reason, it isn't working with either eth card I have in the machine |
| 00:36.35 | Murrlin | unable to configure the network |
| 00:37.10 | abrotman | Titan8990: see :) |
| 00:37.20 | abrotman | Murrlin: what are they? |
| 00:38.20 | Murrlin | a realtek card and an intel card |
| 00:38.50 | Murrlin | (either has worked with other distros... more or less) |
| 00:38.51 | Titan8990 | is it a sid netinst? |
| 00:38.58 | Murrlin | lenny |
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| 00:40.02 | Murrlin | or, 'debian testing i386 netinst' |
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| 00:42.05 | adb | Murrlin> |
| 00:42.08 | abrotman | that's not lenny .. unless it's months old |
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| 00:43.05 | Murrlin | ooo |
| 00:43.40 | Murrlin | ok it's sid |
| 00:43.46 | Murrlin | sid "squeeze" |
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| 00:44.01 | markybob | sid isnt squeeze |
| 00:44.03 | abrotman | sid is not squeeze |
| 00:44.05 | adb | use stable |
| 00:44.12 | Titan8990 | judd, versions linux-image-686 |
| 00:44.13 | judd | Titan8990: linux-image-686 -- etch: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-security: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-backports: 2.6.26+17~bpo40+2 lenny: 2.6.26+17+lenny1 lenny-backports: 2.6.30+20~bpo50+1 sid: 2.6.30+20 squeeze: 2.6.30+20 |
| 00:44.16 | Murrlin | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 00:44.34 | abrotman | Murrlin: those can be broken for weeks at a time .. don't use those |
| 00:44.48 | Murrlin | eeee |
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| 00:45.12 | Murrlin | what might I use instead? |
| 00:45.13 | Titan8990 | the words "daily-builds" in the path is the give-away |
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| 00:46.33 | Titan8990 | Murrlin, lenny |
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| 00:50.27 | Clint__ | points a shotgun at readyou |
| 00:50.28 | Murrlin | thank you |
| 00:50.40 | Murrlin | hopes http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/lenny_d-i/20090209-4/i386/iso-cd/ is the right place |
| 00:51.15 | abrotman | Murrlin: probably not the one you want either |
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| 00:51.38 | Clint__ | ok so vote. who says i should install vista to my poor laptop. 1.7ghz and 2 gb ram. or should i install linux? |
| 00:51.42 | abrotman | Murrlin: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/5.0.2a/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 00:51.54 | abrotman | Clint__: you're in #debian ... |
| 00:51.59 | Clint__ | oh dang |
| 00:52.02 | Clint__ | lol |
| 00:52.10 | gusnan | Is it just me who see this: http://paste.debian.net/44651 |
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| 00:52.29 | purplepenguins | install both Clint__ |
| 00:52.49 | abrotman | gusnan: put your sources.list in the pastebin |
| 00:53.31 | Clint__ | purplepenguins, but its only an 80 gb hd... :( |
| 00:53.34 | Redeuxx | are there any debian sources that have sun java that isn't the jdk? |
| 00:53.46 | purplepenguins | that's plenty of room for both |
| 00:53.56 | abrotman | Redeuxx: so what would it be ? |
| 00:54.39 | Murrlin | thanks again! |
| 00:54.40 | Redeuxx | what do you mean? |
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| 00:55.09 | gusnan | abrotman, http://paste.debian.net/44652 , just lenny, secutity and debian multimedia (all other stuff commented.) |
| 00:55.12 | abrotman | Redeuxx: if you don't wan thte jdk .. what do you want ? |
| 00:55.39 | Clint__ | If Ubuntu supports my wireless out of the box. would a install of pure debian do it as well? |
| 00:55.39 | abrotman | gusnan: you can try a full-upgrade |
| 00:56.10 | gusnan | abrotman, same result as with dist-upgrade ... |
| 00:56.11 | abrotman | gusnan: but it looks like you've been mixing versions of debian .. this is a bad thing |
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| 00:56.28 | abrotman | Clint__: maybe, maybe not .. depends on the card |
| 00:56.35 | purplepenguins | Clint__: debian may not, depending on the card |
| 00:56.49 | Clint__ | hold |
| 00:56.53 | purplepenguins | also sometimes dependent on how old the most recent version is |
| 00:56.57 | purplepenguins | but lenny is pretty new |
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| 00:57.07 | Redeuxx | oh, i guess what i meant ... not openjdk ... but the version from sun |
| 00:57.15 | purplepenguins | the sun-jdk? |
| 00:57.21 | Clint__ | Intel Pro Wireless 2200 (b/g) |
| 00:57.33 | abrotman | Redeuxx: do you have contrib/non-free sources ? |
| 00:57.38 | abrotman | Clint__: no, you'll need firmware |
| 00:57.44 | abrotman | !tell Clint__ about installer firmware |
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| 00:57.58 | sparse | Hi, I would like to boot from network, but not only the architecture of the computer I want to boot from, as I learned, the process of new image installation is usually done by chroot. Is there any way how to get not only i386, but also amd64, powerpc ... boot images for PXE? |
| 00:58.10 | Clint__ | id have to add it to the image |
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| 00:58.18 | Clint__ | where do i get this firmware |
| 00:58.19 | abrotman | or use your wired LAN to install it |
| 00:58.26 | Clint__ | will it work that? |
| 00:58.28 | Redeuxx | hmm, i don't ... could u tell me the address please? |
| 00:58.33 | Titan8990 | gusnan, you can usually work your way out of that by removing packages giving issues and reinstalling them once things are worked out |
| 00:58.42 | oh_noes1 | How do I add a link for a directory inside a CHROOT'd SFTP users? |
| 00:58.54 | oh_noes1 | I tried ln -s, but they only see a dumb link which they cant use |
| 00:59.07 | sparse | oh_noes1: which server? |
| 00:59.23 | sparse | oh_noes1: I mean which server do you use (proftpd, ...) |
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| 00:59.39 | BillyCrook_ | how do you find out which /dev/sdX file is behind an ata#? |
| 00:59.41 | Clint__ | could i possibly netboot debian? to install |
| 00:59.44 | Titan8990 | gusnan, e.g.: aptitude remove libpurple0 pidgin |
| 00:59.50 | abrotman | BillyCrook_: dmesg |
| 00:59.50 | Clint__ | i have a vmed debian installation |
| 00:59.58 | abrotman | !tell Redeuxx about non-free |
| 01:00.00 | abrotman | !tell Redeuxx about contrib |
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| 01:00.05 | sparse | Clint__: it is possible to netboot debian |
| 01:00.13 | BillyCrook_ | abrotman: orly? dmesg | grep ata | grep sd, and tell me what you get? |
| 01:00.23 | gusnan | Titan8990, Thanks - I'll think I will have to go that route yes. |
| 01:00.24 | sparse | Clint__: sorry, I have not followed your disscussion |
| 01:00.34 | abrotman | BillyCrook_: dmesg | grep sd ? |
| 01:00.36 | Titan8990 | gusnan, you may run into a case where two packages can't be concurrently installed on a system |
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| 01:01.13 | sparse | oh_noes1: if you want the sftp server to follow links, look to pure-ftpd with virtual chroot |
| 01:01.15 | BillyCrook_ | abrotman: i don't see any reference to ata numbers there |
| 01:01.47 | Clint__ | so how do i get started with netbooting? |
| 01:01.51 | Clint__ | !netboot |
| 01:01.51 | dpkg | hmm... netboot is a Debian installation method involving the use of TFTP and DHCP (or BOOTP, RARP) servers, to provide installation media to clients on a local network. Not recommended for novice users, ask me about <netinst> instead. See also <install guide>, <netboot miniiso>, <installer firmware>. |
| 01:01.59 | oh_noes1 | sparse: well i have it working with openssh and using mount -o bind, but i wasnt sure if this was the best solution |
| 01:02.10 | BillyCrook_ | Clint__: first google debian netboot iso. Then extract the iso and look for a kernel and initrd pair in a directory named PXEsomething |
| 01:02.13 | abrotman | BillyCrook_: you mean the channel on the drive ? |
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| 01:02.19 | abrotman | erm .. on the controller |
| 01:02.23 | BillyCrook_ | then set up a dhcp server and tftp, and read about pxelinux for 5 min |
| 01:02.30 | BillyCrook_ | abrotman: correct |
| 01:02.39 | maher | my curl security upgrade is getting stuck - anyone else have this problem? |
| 01:02.46 | abrotman | stuck ? |
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| 01:03.03 | BillyCrook_ | abrotman: it is my understanding that all ata channels, on all controllers have a unique channel number assigned to each channel |
| 01:03.05 | Clint__ | BillyCrook_, got the netboot iso. extracting |
| 01:03.12 | Redeuxx | abrotman: thanks for the help! |
| 01:03.17 | BillyCrook_ | errors are sometimes reported only by ata number |
| 01:03.31 | Murrlin | ttfn. |
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| 01:03.38 | abrotman | BillyCrook_: i'd guess somewhere in /sys/, but i've never looked for it |
| 01:03.46 | BillyCrook_ | :-( |
| 01:03.51 | maher | abrotman: aptitude safe-upgrade has been running for some time without appearing to do anything - ps says it is D+ |
| 01:04.08 | abrotman | BillyCrook_: and grep -r no workie in /sys/ |
| 01:04.12 | abrotman | maher: that's not good |
| 01:04.14 | BillyCrook_ | I'm grepping everything in sys and proc for it and haven't found it, and have boggled up the console with weird deprecation warnings |
| 01:04.41 | BillyCrook_ | abrotman: I was going one level at a time (grep /sys/* /sys/*/* etc |
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| 01:05.00 | maher | abrotman: actually dpkg.log says 2009-08-20 01:10:20 status installed curl 7.18.2-8lenny3 |
| 01:05.17 | maher | abrotman: does that mean it is completely finished with curl? |
| 01:05.35 | abrotman | BillyCrook_: for me /sys/bus/ide/devices/0.0 (this is an old laptop) |
| 01:05.45 | maher | abrotman: that was about an hour ago |
| 01:05.48 | abrotman | maher: it should have gone back to the prompt |
| 01:06.15 | maher | abrotman: unresponsive at the prompt |
| 01:06.26 | maher | abrotman: ^Z doesn't work |
| 01:06.33 | abrotman | you mean ^C ? |
| 01:06.47 | maher | abrotman: that doesn't work either |
| 01:07.22 | maher | abrotman: i mean when i do ^Z the process doesn't bg itself so i don't get the prompt back |
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| 01:07.29 | abrotman | so it's in a zombie state |
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| 01:07.45 | maher | abrotman: should i blow its brains out with a shotgun? |
| 01:07.52 | BillyCrook_ | abrotman: I don't have a /sys/bus/sata. I do have sys/bus/scsi, and there are numbers but they're four octets! |
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| 01:08.54 | abrotman | maher: seems drastic |
| 01:09.15 | abrotman | BillyCrook_: /sys/bus/scsi/devices/ ? |
| 01:09.24 | maher | abrotman: well i killed the parent process, but I am disturbed that aptitude safe-upgrade is failing |
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| 01:09.45 | abrotman | maher: dpkg --configure -a |
| 01:09.48 | maher | abrotman: ok - it works now |
| 01:10.17 | BillyCrook_ | abrotman: correct. are you sure the #:#:#:# numbers correlate to ata# numbers? |
| 01:10.31 | abrotman | BillyCrook_: i don't have sata here .. told you before i've never looked |
| 01:10.43 | BillyCrook_ | I'll take your word for it. |
| 01:10.51 | abrotman | what could go wrong ... |
| 01:10.58 | BillyCrook_ | smoke comes out |
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| 01:11.03 | Evet | how to list running programs? |
| 01:11.07 | abrotman | oh . that hasn't happened this week |
| 01:11.09 | BillyCrook_ | Evet: man ps |
| 01:11.10 | abrotman | Evet: ps aux |
| 01:11.12 | maher | abrotman: thnaks |
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| 01:11.48 | BillyCrook_ | how to change directory? |
| 01:12.23 | Evet | how to kill a running program? |
| 01:13.16 | abrotman | !grounding |
| 01:13.16 | dpkg | Before asking in here or on the debian-user mailing list, you should read the Installation Guide, or if you already have Debian installed, the Debian Reference. Ask me about <ig>, <reference>, <docs>, <manuals>, <fundamentals>, <newbiedoc>, <refcard>, <faq>, <unix lessons>, <general cli tutorial>. (e.g. in your IRC client, type /msg dpkg reference) |
| 01:13.20 | abrotman | BillyCrook_: huh ? cd ? |
| 01:13.33 | markybob | it's cd even on windows, isnt it? |
| 01:13.37 | BillyCrook_ | abrotman: i was wondering if anyone would actually answer that |
| 01:13.40 | BillyCrook_ | markybob: yes |
| 01:13.46 | markybob | wtf |
| 01:14.07 | abrotman | BillyCrook_: i was wondering how you went from using grep to not knowing 'cd' :) |
| 01:14.12 | BillyCrook_ | :-) |
| 01:14.14 | Clint__ | Starting DHCP server: dhcpd3check syslog for diagnostics. failed! |
| 01:14.18 | Clint__ | where are sys logs |
| 01:14.21 | BillyCrook_ | maybe I had a stroke |
| 01:14.36 | BillyCrook_ | Clint__: /var/log/messages is very verbose for dhcp |
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| 01:21.55 | Clint_ | Do i *HAVE* to install a seperate DHCP server? or can i use my routers? for netboot |
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| 01:23.06 | BillyCrook_ | Clint_ you HAVE to have A dhcp server that can advertise the 'next-server' and 'filename |
| 01:23.13 | BillyCrook_ | filename' options |
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| 01:23.47 | BillyCrook_ | most vanilla (nat) routers, (home gateways) do not support complex dhcp options |
| 01:24.04 | Clint_ | danget. well dhcp wont start on my box and the logs say nothing |
| 01:24.08 | Clint_ | but the welcome message |
| 01:24.19 | Clint_ | or should i say information message |
| 01:24.36 | BillyCrook_ | dhcp is rather nice to set up. copy /usr/share/docs/dhcp*/example to /etc/dhcpd.conf, and edit appropriately |
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| 01:24.48 | Clint_ | oh |
| 01:24.51 | Clint_ | im being stupid |
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| 01:24.56 | Clint_ | i though it was install and play |
| 01:24.58 | BillyCrook_ | you will probably make a typo, and it will probably tell you the exact line and column of it in var log messages |
| 01:25.01 | joshudson | what would it take for an instant on initrd? |
| 01:25.28 | BillyCrook_ | joshudson: making it out of neutrinos |
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| 01:28.26 | joshudson | Billy, got any link for that. Google for "linux neutrinos" turned up something else |
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| 01:28.41 | DetroitLibertyPe | what do I need to do to ensure that my change of resolution is saved. everytime I boot up I have to change the setting |
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| 01:30.23 | BillyCrook_ | joshudson: neutrinos [in physics] are predicted, but as of yet unproven particles which exceed the speed of light |
| 01:30.37 | BillyCrook_ | DetroitLibertyPe: make the change in Xorg.conf? |
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| 01:31.42 | joshudson | oh, it was supposed to be a joke |
| 01:31.59 | joshudson | there is a linux audio package by that name |
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| 01:37.19 | DetroitLibertyPe | BillyCrook:that was the first thing I thought too, but I don't see anything that looks like a resolution currenlty in Xorg.conf |
| 01:37.35 | abrotman | !xorg config |
| 01:37.35 | dpkg | From Lenny onwards, xorg mostly configures itself. Things like resolution are configured by your desktop environment or <xrandr>. As a result, the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is usually no longer needed and is often mostly blank but you can feed xorg settings using it still. Use "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to set your keyboard layout and use "X -configure" as a template for your handwritten xorg.conf. |
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| 01:37.48 | purplepenguins | BillyCrook_: neutrinos are pretty well observed by now |
| 01:38.13 | purplepenguins | though it's kinda hard to find them |
| 01:38.37 | purplepenguins | wait, i didn't read the rest of that |
| 01:38.40 | purplepenguins | you're thinking of tachyons |
| 01:38.42 | purplepenguins | not neutrinos |
| 01:38.45 | BillyCrook_ | yeah |
| 01:39.03 | BillyCrook_ | correct, that's what I meant |
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| 01:39.20 | BillyCrook_ | which ever one god chose to create at a velocity exceeding that of light |
| 01:39.26 | purplepenguins | which have been observed in star trek tng and some sci-fi but not many other places |
| 01:40.05 | purplepenguins | tachyons have the effect of moving backwards in time |
| 01:40.14 | purplepenguins | due to being superluminal |
| 01:40.20 | purplepenguins | but this is not #physics |
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| 01:41.50 | DetroitLibertyPe | when i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I don't see anything about monitor resolution (I had tried that before to via IXQUICK search) |
| 01:41.59 | joshudson | I forgot, I've already got a minimal debian lying around |
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| 01:42.11 | joshudson | all I need is a new sources.list file |
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| 01:42.31 | superlinux | hi all |
| 01:44.14 | superlinux | I want to make a RAM disk on runtime, not at boot time. I want to make 90MB RAMdisk. can someone give the steps please? |
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| 01:44.56 | purplepenguins | at the runtime of what? |
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| 01:45.30 | BillyCrook_ | superlinux: step 1) mount -t tmpfs none /foo |
| 01:45.45 | superlinux | ok |
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| 01:45.49 | superlinux | BillyCrook_, ok |
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| 01:46.37 | superlinux | BillyCrook_, what about the size? is't auto-increasing? |
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| 01:46.58 | superlinux | is there a limit? |
| 01:47.09 | superlinux | other than the physical limit |
| 01:47.17 | BillyCrook_ | yes. limit of no more than 50% of the physical memory |
| 01:47.26 | superlinux | ok cool |
| 01:47.54 | superlinux | thanks |
| 01:47.59 | BillyCrook_ | so if you have four banks of four 2GB dimms you can put up to 16GB of stuff in the ramdisk |
| 01:48.04 | superlinux | I can compile faster now |
| 01:48.09 | BillyCrook_ | there is usually already a ramdisk mounted at /dev/shm |
| 01:48.16 | superlinux | cos i have 4 apparent CPU's |
| 01:48.17 | BillyCrook_ | and don't count on that (the compiling faster |
| 01:48.28 | BillyCrook_ | do you think you actually read files from disk more than once when working with them? |
| 01:48.38 | BillyCrook_ | all that is cached in memory |
| 01:48.46 | BillyCrook_ | all disk reads are done by pagefaulting |
| 01:48.52 | superlinux | anyway we'll see |
| 01:48.55 | BillyCrook_ | which causes a disk seek and loading into memory |
| 01:49.01 | superlinux | it's just a test i am doing |
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| 01:49.52 | superlinux | BillyCrook_, it's just the access time that will differ i think |
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| 01:50.35 | adb | and how , if some system would like to use ALL physical memory ? |
| 01:51.01 | BillyCrook_ | superlinux: its only the FIRST access time that will differ |
| 01:51.14 | BillyCrook_ | after the first read, a file "on disk" is as fast as a file in a ramdisk |
| 01:51.15 | superlinux | ok |
| 01:51.30 | BillyCrook_ | and that first read's slowness is nowhere near as slow as your human slowness mounting a ramdisk and copying files in before you start |
| 01:51.40 | superlinux | there is a little bit of difference |
| 01:51.51 | superlinux | just a li_____ttle bit |
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| 01:57.23 | rsmith | is typing "/msg dpkg guidelines" supposed to have a noticeable effect? |
| 01:57.55 | markybob | rsmith, ...its /msgs you. |
| 01:58.27 | rsmith | I just got ">dpkg< guidelines" and that's it |
| 01:58.44 | superlinux | BillyCrook_, I just wanted to see the difference between the ram and the disk when compiling |
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| 01:58.54 | markybob | !guidelines |
| 01:58.54 | dpkg | 1) Read the /topic, the FAQ, and google before asking us. 2) Don't ask to ask. Just ask. 3) Don't repeat; show that you have tried to help yourself by refining the question. 4) Reading docs (man/info pages, READMEs) is a worthwhile skill. Practice it. 5) Use /msg to talk to the bots (not the people). See <msg>. 6) Be polite and patient. 7) Paste on #flood or <paster>, not here. 8) No trolls or spam. |
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| 01:59.36 | rsmith | ahhh, I see "!" is the shorthand |
| 01:59.50 | BillyCrook_ | super ram IS disk. |
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| 02:00.17 | BillyCrook_ | superlinux: your files are not on the disk. They are in a virtual construct called a file system.. the disk is only used for longterm storage |
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| 02:00.36 | superlinux | I knooow |
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| 02:04.35 | joshudson | libpango has an undeclared dependency on /usr/bin/cmp |
| 02:05.27 | markybob | good for it |
| 02:05.35 | keith4_ | how do I assign a second IP address to a network interface? |
| 02:05.54 | abrotman | keith4_: /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 02:06.04 | abrotman | joshudson: in which version of debian ? |
| 02:06.08 | joshudson | stable |
| 02:06.09 | markybob | keith4_, alias. ifconfig eth0:0 foo |
| 02:06.12 | joshudson | lenny |
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| 02:06.32 | keith4_ | abrotman, I tried copying a static interface stanza, and just naming if eth0:0 or eth0:1 |
| 02:06.38 | abrotman | ok |
| 02:06.46 | keith4_ | but when I try to ifup it, it fails with: ifup: failed to open statefile /etc/network/run/ifstate: No such file or directory |
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| 02:09.40 | beardy | Malmis: malmen? |
| 02:10.51 | Wyzard | keith4: That file ought to exist... it's what ifup/ifdown uses to keep track of which interfaces are currently up |
| 02:11.08 | Wyzard | keith4_: I'd create it if it doesn't exist |
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| 02:12.27 | keith4_ | Wyzard, this is a xen domU, forgot to mention that |
| 02:12.28 | Wyzard | keith4_: btw, I don't think the ifupdown system supports the newer (Linux 2.6) way of assigning multiple IPs to an interface, putting multiple addresses directly on eth0 |
| 02:12.45 | Wyzard | keith4_: You have to use aliases like eth0:0 |
| 02:12.59 | keith4_ | Wyzard, yah, that's what I'm doing |
| 02:13.25 | Wyzard | keith4_: Just checked my domUs and the ifstate file doesn't look any different than on other systems |
| 02:13.32 | keith4_ | hmmmm |
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| 02:13.58 | Wyzard | It contains two lines: "lo=lo" and "eth0=eth0" |
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| 02:14.04 | keith4_ | Wyzard, on my domUs, /etc/network/run is a symlink: run -> /dev/shm/network |
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| 02:14.34 | Wyzard | hmm... that's true in mine too, and strange; I'm not sure why it'd be any different |
| 02:15.02 | keith4_ | wtf. in another domU, /dev/shm/network is as you describe yours |
| 02:15.08 | keith4_ | but in this one, /dev/shm/network doesn't exist |
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| 02:15.55 | Wyzard | keith4_: Looks like /etc/init.d/ifupdown is supposed to create the ifstate file -- look for the comment "# Create the state file" |
| 02:16.42 | keith4_ | Wyzard, interesting |
| 02:17.01 | keith4_ | you're brilliant, you know that? |
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| 02:17.08 | keith4_ | /etc/init.d/ifupdown restart fixed it |
| 02:17.13 | Wyzard | thanks :-) |
| 02:17.44 | Wyzard | I just did "grep ifstate /etc/init.d/*" figuring it'd have to be created at boot time if it's in /dev/shm, and that found the IFSTATE variable in the ifupdown script |
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| 02:19.28 | purplepenguins | damn spammer |
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| 02:19.38 | keith4_ | Wyzard, too bad you don't drink, or i'd buy you a beer next time i see you |
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| 02:21.36 | keith4_ | ugh. why doesn't 'host' respect nsswitch? |
| 02:21.59 | joshudson | so what's the recommended flash plugin these days? |
| 02:22.00 | BillyCrook_ | host isn't designed to resolve names |
| 02:22.02 | BillyCrook_ | host resolves DNS |
| 02:22.10 | BillyCrook_ | getent resolves names |
| 02:22.43 | BillyCrook_ | joshudson: swfdec or gnash if freedom is important |
| 02:22.59 | BillyCrook_ | if you're in to bondage, try the one from adobe |
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| 02:26.02 | planet8 | updated my testing desktop today, and sound is gone now, anyone who knows if there are some problems on this area? |
| 02:26.09 | Galaxor | Hi. I'm using a non-debian system. I want to install debian on a usb disk attached to this. How can I do that? I'd like to use something like debootstrap, but I'm using archlinux and can't apt-get install debootstrap. |
| 02:26.42 | Titan8990 | Galaxor, unetbootin maybe |
| 02:26.51 | stew | Galaxor: you can download debootstrap from http://packages.debian.org/debootstrap |
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| 02:28.47 | Galaxor | stew: Okay. I downloaded a deb file. What do I do with it? |
| 02:29.00 | lafrance | ok trying to install debian on my computer so be easier to manage server do I really need all 5 dvd to install deb ? |
| 02:29.28 | markybob | lafrance, no. |
| 02:29.35 | Galaxor | lafrance: Get the netinstall or some other cd. |
| 02:29.38 | markybob | Galaxor, dpkg -i foo.deb |
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| 02:29.46 | lafrance | thank god so first dvd be ok then use the great apt get |
| 02:29.56 | Galaxor | markybob: My host system is not running debian. I don't have dpkg. |
| 02:29.58 | lafrance | thanks time to trash this wiondoz |
| 02:30.01 | stew | Galaxor: oh, no, sorry you want that .tar.gz |
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| 02:30.14 | Galaxor | stew: Where is that? |
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| 02:30.22 | stew | Galaxor: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.10lenny1.tar.gz |
| 02:31.03 | joshudson | how big is that one? |
| 02:31.07 | Galaxor | stew: Oh yeah, that's the real shit. |
| 02:31.20 | joshudson | I have what I think is a bootstrap package at 25mb |
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| 02:31.42 | stew | joshudson: this one is 48k |
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| 02:32.24 | Galaxor | stew: Hm. That package didn't come with a README or anything, and when I run the script, it says that it can't find /usr/share/debootstrap/functions. |
| 02:33.28 | Galaxor | Oh. It came with the functions file. |
| 02:33.29 | stew | Galaxor: it comes with a manpage at least |
| 02:33.43 | stew | (and its just a shell script) |
| 02:33.44 | joshudson | oh, this one downloads the installer |
| 02:33.45 | Galaxor | And now I recognize that hte .8 file was the manpage. |
| 02:33.54 | stew | joshudson: no, it doesn't |
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| 02:34.06 | joshudson | mine comes up able to run apt-get immediately after unpack |
| 02:34.43 | joshudson | apt has 25mb of dependencies (I traced them manually as most of dpkg's dependencies were not declared) |
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| 02:37.23 | micheal-0-8-15 | Hello, i hope someone can help me out with my Problem. I am trying to apt-get update my server and i recieve an error message. Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/Release.gpg |
| 02:38.16 | micheal-0-8-15 | i have set up my firewall and this could be the only problem. but |
| 02:38.57 | stew | micheal-0-8-15: "wget http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/Release.gpg" works for me |
| 02:38.59 | micheal-0-8-15 | i have added rules for debian ip's for input, forward and output and the ip's are allowed to connect but i get the same message |
| 02:39.09 | micheal-0-8-15 | yes. |
| 02:39.23 | micheal-0-8-15 | since i have set up my firewall |
| 02:39.29 | micheal-0-8-15 | i got this message |
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| 02:39.39 | micheal-0-8-15 | and the firewall could be thr problem! |
| 02:40.22 | Galaxor | Hey, the debootstrap doesn't seem to have a lenny script. It's only got potato sarge sarge.buildd sarge.fakechroot sid woody woody.buildd |
| 02:40.38 | Galaxor | It's the one I got from here : http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.10lenny1.tar.gz |
| 02:40.53 | purplepenguins | Galaxor: that sounds like a pretty ancient version of debootstrap |
| 02:41.07 | purplepenguins | are you sure you grabbed the latest version? |
| 02:41.10 | micheal-0-8-15 | ACCEPT all -- 128.31.0.51 anywhere |
| 02:41.10 | micheal-0-8-15 | ACCEPT all -- anywhere 128.31.0.51 |
| 02:41.10 | micheal-0-8-15 | ACCEPT all -- 128.31.0.51 anywhere |
| 02:41.10 | micheal-0-8-15 | ACCEPT all -- anywhere 128.31.0.51 |
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| 02:41.43 | micheal-0-8-15 | :) sorry for paste line by line |
| 02:41.46 | micheal-0-8-15 | ahm |
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| 02:41.47 | purplepenguins | try a pastebin |
| 02:42.04 | micheal-0-8-15 | Input |
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| 02:42.17 | micheal-0-8-15 | how that pastebin works? |
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| 02:43.11 | Galaxor | I got this debootstrap: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.10lenny1.tar.gz |
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| 02:43.42 | purplepenguins | michael-0-8-15: http://pastebin.com/ |
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| 02:44.44 | joshudson | full dependencies for Xorg server and iceweasel weigh in at 400 MB unpacked ?!? |
| 02:44.49 | micheal-0-8-15 | Input |
| 02:44.49 | micheal-0-8-15 | ACCEPT all -- 128.31.0.51 anywhere |
| 02:44.49 | micheal-0-8-15 | Forward |
| 02:44.49 | micheal-0-8-15 | ACCEPT all -- 128.31.0.51 anywhere |
| 02:44.49 | micheal-0-8-15 | ACCEPT all -- anywhere 128.31.0.51 |
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| 02:45.01 | purplepenguins | like i said Galaxor that verion is highly out of date |
| 02:45.07 | micheal-0-8-15 | :/ wasnt a paste -.- |
| 02:45.09 | purplepenguins | micheal-0-8-15: did you get the link i sent |
| 02:45.22 | purplepenguins | paste it there, then give us the link to it here |
| 02:45.25 | micheal-0-8-15 | didnt notice, was typing sorry |
| 02:45.50 | micheal-0-8-15 | ahm, yes, where can i use pastebin!? |
| 02:45.54 | Galaxor | purplepenguins: Is there a newer verion? Or has that project been abandonded? |
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| 02:46.17 | purplepenguins | it hasn't been abandoned..though the1.0.10 is the newest version |
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| 02:47.11 | Galaxor | That sounds awful abandoned to me, if the latest version is 2 releases out of date. |
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| 02:47.47 | micheal-0-8-15 | <purplepenguins> http://pastebin.org/10418 |
| 02:47.50 | purplepenguins | no, it must not be the newest one, and that site is out of date |
| 02:48.26 | purplepenguins | are you sure that lenny isn't available |
| 02:48.44 | purplepenguins | i just downloaded debootstrap on debian, same version, and it has lenny available |
| 02:49.43 | Galaxor | purplepenguins: Where did you get it from? I just got one from ftp.us.debian.org. |
| 02:50.17 | purplepenguins | that is where i got it from as well |
| 02:50.40 | purplepenguins | did you try "debootstrap lenny /lenny-chroot ftp.us.debian.org" |
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| 02:51.40 | purplepenguins | rather |
| 02:51.53 | purplepenguins | did you try "debootstrap lenny /lenny-chroot http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/" |
| 02:51.57 | purplepenguins | that command works for me |
| 02:52.22 | micheal-0-8-15 | <purplepenguins> you are still talking with Galaxor, right? |
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| 02:52.52 | Galaxor | E: No such script: /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/lenny |
| 02:53.09 | micheal-0-8-15 | Okay, yes :) |
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| 02:53.29 | purplepenguins | what is in /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/ |
| 02:53.50 | purplepenguins | hmm, mine has a lot of things |
| 02:54.33 | purplepenguins | every version of ubuntu and debian back to potato |
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| 02:54.51 | Galaxor | purplepenguins: Well, nothing was there at first (I installed from the tarball). So I copied the contents of scripts/debian from out of the tarball. That has these things: potato sarge sarge.buildd sarge.fakechroot sid woody woody.buildd |
| 02:55.18 | purplepenguins | where did you find this tarball? |
| 02:55.27 | purplepenguins | oh, that was what you installed from |
| 02:55.29 | Galaxor | purplepenguins: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.10lenny1.tar.gz |
| 02:55.40 | Galaxor | purplepenguins: Or http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_1.0.10lenny1.tar.gz |
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| 02:56.13 | purplepenguins | you're right, this tarball's not right at all |
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| 02:56.33 | Galaxor | purplepenguins: I see, so the deb is up to date, but hte tarball isn't, huh. |
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| 02:56.47 | Galaxor | purplepenguins: Could you, like, pastebin the lenny script for me? |
| 02:57.15 | purplepenguins | i'll find the link to a good tarball |
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| 02:57.24 | micheal-0-8-15 | yeaa, and hopefully someone can explain how to be able to apt-get my debian :) |
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| 02:57.41 | Abo | guys I have a problem |
| 02:57.43 | Galaxor | purplepenguins: I'll email the maintainers about this problem, then. |
| 02:57.44 | purplepenguins | hmm, debian's use all debs |
| 02:57.51 | purplepenguins | that's annoying |
| 02:57.52 | Abo | I am trying from a debian machine to connect to another debian machine |
| 02:57.57 | Abo | here is what I do and what I get |
| 02:58.01 | purplepenguins | they don't have any source bundles |
| 02:58.08 | Abo | ssh -i /usr/local/gcp/userdata/BuruianaFlorin/BuruianaFlorin -f -o NumberOfPasswordPrompts=0 -o ConnectTimeout=1 -o PasswordAuthentication=no -o StrictHostKeyChecking=no -p 4588 BuruianaFlorin@82.77.65.182 "/bin/bash scontrol-cstrike.126 stop ; /bin/bash scontrol-cstrike.126 start '' ; rm -f /home/BuruianaFlorin/scontrol-cstrike.126 " Permission denied (publickey,password). |
| 02:58.14 | Abo | sorry for pasting |
| 02:58.14 | micheal-0-8-15 | bam |
| 02:58.36 | markybob | wtf |
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| 02:58.55 | micheal-0-8-15 | squireels |
| 02:58.56 | purplepenguins | okay, both the .tar.gz files lack the right parts |
| 02:58.57 | micheal-0-8-15 | :) |
| 02:59.08 | purplepenguins | they must not have updated the tarballs as frequently as the .deb's |
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| 02:59.17 | purplepenguins | Galaxor: I'll pastebin the lenny script, one moment |
| 02:59.31 | Galaxor | purplepenguins: Yeah. I'll have to notify the maintainers. |
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| 03:00.28 | ret | Anyone know where I can find MicroSoft LifeCam VX-1000 Drivers for Debian Lenny? My cam worked on Ubuntu Karmic |
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| 03:01.31 | Abo | anyone has any idea about my issue? |
| 03:02.04 | micheal-0-8-15 | Abo: you are trying to connect from server to server? |
| 03:02.06 | micheal-0-8-15 | :) |
| 03:02.07 | micheal-0-8-15 | ?? |
| 03:02.10 | Abo | yes |
| 03:02.28 | micheal-0-8-15 | have heard from an command like: ssh USER@IP |
| 03:02.38 | micheal-0-8-15 | type in: |
| 03:02.44 | micheal-0-8-15 | ssh USER@IP |
| 03:02.47 | micheal-0-8-15 | example: |
| 03:02.57 | micheal-0-8-15 | ssh root@123.45.67.89 |
| 03:02.59 | pickcoder | ret: you need the spca drivers |
| 03:03.14 | ret | Any way you can grab me a link? I'm currently trying to find my other cam |
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| 03:03.51 | pickcoder | which kernel is it |
| 03:04.08 | purplepenguins | Galaxor: http://pastebin.com/d3ff7fd8c |
| 03:04.11 | Abo | micheal-0-8-15, I need to type what I pasted above |
| 03:04.17 | micheal-0-8-15 | purplepenguin, are you there? dont know how to fix my problem |
| 03:04.20 | ret | um, idk. i didn't compile my own so it's the default debian lenny kernel |
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| 03:04.34 | pickcoder | uname -r |
| 03:04.53 | ret | 2..6.26-2-686 |
| 03:04.59 | ret | sans double dot |
| 03:05.00 | micheal-0-8-15 | then sorry abo. I am not that perfect. i do know the command i typed. your command looks heavy |
| 03:05.03 | ret | 2.6.26-2-686* |
| 03:05.21 | pickcoder | install the gspca-modules-2.6-686 package |
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| 03:05.39 | micheal-0-8-15 | to connect from server to server via ssh, this command works for me, i dont know other commands for this issue sorry |
| 03:05.48 | purplepenguins | i don't know for sure michael-0-8-15, but it seems like the input and output directives are in the wrong place |
| 03:05.48 | recklessop | abo: you need to see if you can login to the other server without a password first manually |
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| 03:05.57 | recklessop | otherwise the command your trying to use wil NEVER work |
| 03:06.05 | purplepenguins | i haven't used iptables recently |
| 03:06.05 | Abo | recklessop I can connect to that machine from my desktop |
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| 03:06.17 | micheal-0-8-15 | purplepenguins: here is my pastebin http://pastebin.org/10418 |
| 03:06.18 | recklessop | did you setup private ket authentication between the two hosts alreadty? |
| 03:06.23 | purplepenguins | i saw it already |
| 03:06.27 | Abo | recklessop yes and they seem OK |
| 03:06.50 | micheal-0-8-15 | ive set the ip ACCEPTED in all directions and i cant update my debian? |
| 03:06.53 | recklessop | and you created them for whatever user your running that command as? cause that will matter too |
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| 03:07.13 | micheal-0-8-15 | i was searching for different ip's but this was the only one |
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| 03:07.21 | Abo | yup |
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| 03:07.30 | ret | okay, I installed them and my cam isn't working yet = |
| 03:07.33 | Abo | I set the same config for others machines and worker |
| 03:07.36 | Abo | worked |
| 03:07.41 | Abo | but now I dont know whats up with it |
| 03:08.13 | purplepenguins | have you tried turning off your firewall, and then connecting? |
| 03:08.21 | purplepenguins | just to make sure it's the firewall |
| 03:08.43 | Abo | who me? aint running firewalls |
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| 03:08.56 | Abo | tryed google, I see alot of issues but none apply to me |
| 03:09.02 | purplepenguins | i'm talking to michael |
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| 03:09.18 | purplepenguins | who's name refuses to tab complete |
| 03:09.19 | ret | purplepenguins: I got the cam working but the image is like, purple and black. No effects are enabled o,o |
| 03:09.25 | micheal-0-8-15 | and no, the input and output are set correct! i have globally disabled all connections and only added 2 ips. the one from which i am connected to this server and the one for debian in the same way, i dont know what i have to put in to be able to update ! unfortunately. havent found any other ip adresses |
| 03:09.42 | Galaxor | Cool, thanks. |
| 03:09.48 | Galaxor | Okay, I gotta go for now, but thanks much. |
| 03:10.10 | purplepenguins | i don't know what's wrong michael |
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| 03:10.39 | purplepenguins | "the one for debian" |
| 03:10.44 | purplepenguins | what does that mean |
| 03:10.48 | micheal-0-8-15 | referrs? |
| 03:10.58 | micheal-0-8-15 | the one which is pastedbin |
| 03:11.22 | micheal-0-8-15 | the one in the pastebin link |
| 03:11.35 | purplepenguins | i meant, what computer is it |
| 03:11.59 | micheal-0-8-15 | http://whois.to/debian.org |
| 03:12.33 | purplepenguins | oh |
| 03:12.34 | micheal-0-8-15 | there you see, this ip adress is used by debian.org. security.debian.org and all other sources in my sources.list |
| 03:13.24 | purplepenguins | for me, those sites use different IP's |
| 03:13.48 | purplepenguins | 128.31.0.36, and 128.31.0.51 |
| 03:14.19 | micheal-0-8-15 | that was the problem, i was searching for an ip list which are used by debian |
| 03:14.27 | micheal-0-8-15 | but i havent found |
| 03:14.37 | purplepenguins | i'm not sure exactly why you need to block all ip's except debian |
| 03:14.45 | micheal-0-8-15 | i was hoping i can get a solution here |
| 03:14.47 | purplepenguins | if for some reason the ip changes you're going to have to manually edit it |
| 03:15.36 | micheal-0-8-15 | yes, i do block all connections for only one reason. it is an only backup server, no need for http and something. |
| 03:15.39 | micheal-0-8-15 | the only way |
| 03:15.59 | micheal-0-8-15 | is to enable connections and after my updates to disable |
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| 03:16.14 | micheal-0-8-15 | or can i get a ip list from debian? |
| 03:16.18 | purplepenguins | if it's a backup server, just put it behind a gateway or a router |
| 03:16.49 | purplepenguins | you don't know to block OUTPUT, and you don't need to keep any INPUT open |
| 03:16.58 | micheal-0-8-15 | no ip list ? :/ |
| 03:17.00 | purplepenguins | err, don't need |
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| 03:17.28 | purplepenguins | err, is that right...i'm confused now |
| 03:17.40 | micheal-0-8-15 | what? |
| 03:17.46 | purplepenguins | i'm confused why you need this firewall |
| 03:17.47 | micheal-0-8-15 | i am also confused ^ |
| 03:17.57 | purplepenguins | you are not hosting any servers on the computer right? |
| 03:18.04 | micheal-0-8-15 | honestly, i am not sure how to use an proxy |
| 03:18.12 | micheal-0-8-15 | i can not use an proxy |
| 03:18.19 | purplepenguins | proxy has nothing to do with it, you don't need to block http input |
| 03:18.19 | micheal-0-8-15 | it is an box |
| 03:18.24 | purplepenguins | why would you need to do that |
| 03:18.47 | micheal-0-8-15 | just because only one server need to connect with it. |
| 03:19.00 | micheal-0-8-15 | to backup all files. |
| 03:19.25 | purplepenguins | but it's too much of a pain to keep it configured for that |
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| 03:19.25 | micheal-0-8-15 | ahm no, |
| 03:19.25 | purplepenguins | you have to manually add every ip address you expect it to connect to |
| 03:19.31 | micheal-0-8-15 | not really. i just enable all traffic for updates |
| 03:19.43 | micheal-0-8-15 | was on that oppinion debian offers an ip list |
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| 03:20.24 | micheal-0-8-15 | and yes, i was going to add every ip from debian |
| 03:21.11 | purplepenguins | anyway, you don't need to keep OUTPUT open if you're not running a server |
| 03:21.12 | micheal-0-8-15 | but, its not hard to enable it for ~10 minutes |
| 03:21.29 | purplepenguins | or something which has ports open that you need other computers to connect to |
| 03:21.57 | micheal-0-8-15 | i need output for my own ip to communicate with my server, sure :) |
| 03:22.16 | purplepenguins | that was vague |
| 03:22.28 | purplepenguins | let's say computer A is your backup server, and B is your desktop |
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| 03:22.49 | micheal-0-8-15 | you may laugh, during my learn with iptables i was setting up my server serveral times because i was not able to login anymore for some reasons xD |
| 03:22.51 | purplepenguins | A doesn't need to run any servers |
| 03:22.59 | micheal-0-8-15 | wrong iptable settings :) its funny... |
| 03:23.05 | micheal-0-8-15 | but thanks for the input |
| 03:23.08 | purplepenguins | yeah, we all make mistakes with iptables and block our access |
| 03:23.10 | micheal-0-8-15 | i just enable the traffic |
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| 03:23.25 | markybob | What's C? |
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| 03:23.54 | bpun | markybob, C is a curved line |
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| 03:24.07 | purplepenguins | A needs to connect to debian and get updates |
| 03:24.17 | campassi | How would I go about submitting a package to the debian repositories? |
| 03:24.36 | pickcoder | campassi: beg for someone to sponsor it |
| 03:24.50 | micheal-0-8-15 | well, nice time peoples. and nice channel. !!! well done, cya around |
| 03:24.53 | campassi | What does that mean pickcoder? |
| 03:25.04 | pickcoder | or you can take the long route and try to become a DD |
| 03:25.36 | pickcoder | campassi: if you can find a DD that will sponsor the package for you (upload it and pass the maintance to you) you can get it listed in a short period |
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| 03:30.20 | pickcoder | !tell campassi about mentors |
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| 03:32.58 | peterrooney | is there a way to stop syslog messages from showing up on my tty? |
| 03:33.33 | peterrooney | s/is there a way to/how can i/ |
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| 03:34.23 | purplepenguins | syslog is outputting to your tty, how did that happen |
| 03:35.22 | peterrooney | purplepenguins: fresh install of squeeze. |
| 03:35.56 | peterrooney | purplepenguins: [19825.944040] eth0: interrupt(s) dropped! |
| 03:36.16 | peterrooney | and more like that |
| 03:36.45 | markybob | peterrooney, you should probably edit /etc/syslog.conf to your liking |
| 03:37.14 | purplepenguins | man rsyslogd tells me you may have set the debug option |
| 03:37.27 | purplepenguins | or somehow it's thinking you didn't set NoStdOut |
| 03:38.02 | markybob | purplepenguins, this is normal for many things |
| 03:38.34 | purplepenguins | it's normal for syslogd to send you messages to your tty? |
| 03:38.44 | peterrooney | markybob: you mean, cat /dev/null > /etc/syslog.conf? |
| 03:39.03 | purplepenguins | ...don't do that |
| 03:39.10 | markybob | peterrooney, no, dude. wtf? why would you think that? |
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| 03:39.14 | markybob | i said edit, not fuck |
| 03:39.16 | LittleDeadPengui | heh |
| 03:39.26 | markybob | jesus christ |
| 03:39.37 | purplepenguins | hmm, there is a section about spouting stuff onto tty8 |
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| 03:41.18 | Abo | does anyone here is able to gimme a hand? |
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| 03:43.20 | peterrooney | markybob: heh. having read the conf file, it says "you noob, we aren't going to document here how this file is supposed to bew used" |
| 03:43.59 | peterrooney | anyways, i may have found a solution: /proc/sys/kernel/printk ( http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/02/msg00457.html ) |
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| 03:46.40 | peterrooney | markybob: sorry, i didn't mean to cause a ruckus. |
| 03:47.39 | pickcoder | peterrooney: no worries, he's always like that |
| 03:47.55 | markybob | true :P |
| 03:49.16 | LittleDedPenguin | sorry, i laughed |
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| 03:50.48 | peterrooney | i never said i was _good_ at comedy. |
| 03:51.51 | peterrooney | and yes, `echo "4 4 1 7" > /proc/sys/kernel/printk' has made it stop bothering me with trivial system messages. |
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| 04:17.36 | BillyCrook_ | when I installed, the debian installer build an initrd that tries to cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sde2. Sde is now sda when it boots, and I need to know how to tell it to use sda2 instead, in a kernel arg |
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| 04:23.15 | toolz | can I create a debian net-insta on a USB device to install from? |
| 04:23.21 | toolz | net-install cd |
| 04:24.23 | lafrance | who ever told me only need 1 dvd to install deb thank you work like a charme |
| 04:24.35 | lafrance | not the nightnmare of deb 4 |
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| 04:28.24 | hellowe | Do you care? http://www.anontalk.com/ICARE ! |
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| 04:35.19 | toolz | how do I create an install USB device? |
| 04:36.17 | BillyCrook_ | toolz: try unetbootin |
| 04:36.46 | toolz | how |
| 04:36.49 | toolz | where can I get it |
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| 04:37.03 | albech | when having a disk with lvms on it, how do i see how much space is left for for additional volumes? lvdisplay only show each volume |
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| 04:41.20 | _pepo_ | Hi friends |
| 04:41.25 | BillyCrook_ | albech: vgdisplay |
| 04:42.40 | albech | BillyCrook_: ty |
| 04:42.45 | _pepo_ | Ive upgraded my Squeeze to kernel 2.6.30, now I cant use my wireless card (Atheros based) like Access Point with Hostapd (and madwifi) |
| 04:42.58 | _pepo_ | do someone can help me with that? |
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| 04:44.23 | iceyp | Hey guys, needing a litle help with an issue I have... I have a perl script that when run takes 1 second to send the command to the remote end and receive a response, if that same script is run 10 times (for example) in a row, all is fine, but then it starts taking times up to 17 seconds to respond. On looking at tcpdump, I dont even see the traffic leaving the interface, when I do, the response comes back quickly |
| 04:44.56 | iceyp | I have tested using IP, so not DNS related, I have tried no https, same problem, I even tried setting the host to localhost and I see the same results |
| 04:45.22 | iceyp | I'm wondering if debian has something inbuilt that notices when a program has been run too many times, then it throttles it |
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| 04:56.05 | peterrooney | iceyp: nope, it doesn't. |
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| 04:58.03 | iceyp | peterrooney strange though how if i leave it for a short time it's fine |
| 04:58.08 | iceyp | and if i run 10 in a row it's fine |
| 04:58.22 | iceyp | but after about 10-15 then I dont see it leaving the interface for the destination |
| 04:58.37 | iceyp | until about 3-17 seconds later |
| 04:58.50 | iceyp | then if i leave it for 20 seconds, its fine again |
| 04:59.06 | iceyp | there is absolutely no load on the server, plus it's dual CPU, with 4 gb ram |
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| 05:30.02 | dserban | is ia32-apt-get done? Doesn't seem like it's in the repository anymore. |
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| 05:41.39 | craigevil | yes it was abandonded and removed, ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk replace it |
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| 05:58.54 | JJOliver | I peeps, how do I resize an image? I have the latest lenny install. |
| 05:59.12 | d0htem | use gimp |
| 05:59.40 | d0htem | u can make ascii versions of images with gimp :) |
| 05:59.56 | obie | use gimpyep use the scaler tool |
| 05:59.58 | JJOliver | cool thanks. |
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| 06:02.31 | JJOliver | I'm struggling to find the image scaler, any suggestions? |
| 06:03.10 | JJOliver | (or any way to export at a lower quality. |
| 06:03.11 | JJOliver | ) |
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| 06:03.52 | d0htem | yeah 1 sec ill open up gimp |
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| 06:04.09 | JJOliver | thanks. |
| 06:04.34 | d0htem | image -> scale image |
| 06:05.20 | d0htem | JJOliver: then save as -> select file extention to change to a smaller format |
| 06:05.33 | d0htem | it will give you compression ratio and stuff as an option then |
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| 06:05.57 | x1250 | Sashi, maybe you could replace the original adduser with your own script, and call the renamed original from there and do your stuff? |
| 06:06.12 | d0htem | also i think #gimp might be a channel |
| 06:06.23 | JJOliver | d0htem: thanks so much. Sorry for being dense. Really appreciate the help! |
| 06:06.24 | Sashi | wll x1250 i dont even know where to being in the adduser script |
| 06:06.30 | Sashi | x1250: because its soo messy |
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| 06:06.37 | kraut | moin |
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| 06:10.40 | x1250 | Sashi, just create a bash script that calls adduser and do your own stuff. I don't know if this is the best way, and I don't think so, but who cares... |
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| 06:24.24 | talin | hello and spello. i am running debian (on a virtual vmvare machine).. and when i boot, it says "set_rtc_mmss: can't update from 59 to 3".. and this makes certain things fail, since the time keeps jumping back and forth. there must be some conflict somewhere? |
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| 06:27.58 | eqisow | I'm running debian stable and want some of the features from the newer kernels; is there a repository or some such that would be easier than having to build and keep my own kernels up to date? |
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| 06:52.30 | gps23 | how can i set password in grub2? |
| 06:52.57 | adfasdf | did you know that your root password when types comes in as ******** |
| 06:53.16 | adfasdf | just kdding it doesn't |
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| 06:53.38 | adfasdf | sorry i'm not that fmailiarwith grub |
| 06:54.29 | adfasdf | yhou might try doing a sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.list |
| 06:54.38 | adfasdf | i think in there is where you can change the pw |
| 06:54.50 | adfasdf | be careful thought |
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| 06:55.31 | adfasdf | sorry menu.lst |
| 06:58.10 | gps23 | adfasdf, i knew how to do it in legacy grub |
| 06:58.24 | gps23 | grub2 is totally different and has too less help |
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| 06:59.34 | adfasdf | good luck |
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| 07:07.34 | gps23 | adfasdf, alright, i will try there. thanks :) |
| 07:08.01 | unitypunk_ | man |
| 07:08.08 | unitypunk_ | can anyone help my poor debian box. |
| 07:08.18 | unitypunk_ | it can ping me i can ping it. |
| 07:08.27 | unitypunk_ | but it wont show up in netwrking |
| 07:08.35 | unitypunk_ | and my samba shares arent availablle |
| 07:08.42 | Skipp_OSX | unitypunk_: is it hosted? |
| 07:08.51 | unitypunk_ | hosted? |
| 07:09.00 | unitypunk_ | like an alternate host |
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| 07:09.04 | unitypunk_ | its in my room. |
| 07:09.06 | unitypunk_ | lol |
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| 07:10.04 | Skipp_OSX | unitypunk_: okay, so, it is on the network.... so it has an IP |
| 07:10.19 | Skipp_OSX | but the Samba shares are not working |
| 07:10.32 | unitypunk_ | yeah |
| 07:10.34 | Skipp_OSX | so perhaps samba has a problem |
| 07:10.39 | unitypunk_ | gah |
| 07:10.42 | unitypunk_ | it shouldnt |
| 07:10.46 | unitypunk_ | it didnt when i shut it down. |
| 07:10.52 | Skipp_OSX | I really don't know enough to help you |
| 07:10.53 | unitypunk_ | or rebooted it last time. |
| 07:10.59 | Skipp_OSX | is samba running? |
| 07:10.59 | unitypunk_ | oh |
| 07:11.02 | unitypunk_ | yeah |
| 07:11.05 | unitypunk_ | pretty sure. |
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| 07:12.05 | Skipp_OSX | unitypunk_: well, I am installing samba now, but a guess is /etc/init.d/samba start |
| 07:12.29 | Saj | hi to all,i have promag rfid reader will this work under debian if yes then which driver it needs? |
| 07:12.39 | unitypunk_ | hmm |
| 07:12.43 | unitypunk_ | failed |
| 07:12.53 | Skipp_OSX | unitypunk_: okay, well, that is a clue |
| 07:12.54 | unitypunk_ | Starting Samba daemons: nmbd/etc/init.d/samba: line 42: start-stop-daemon: command not found |
| 07:13.02 | unitypunk_ | :-/ |
| 07:13.06 | unitypunk_ | beyond my level. |
| 07:13.17 | unitypunk_ | let me pull ip that file |
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| 07:14.49 | Skipp_OSX | unitypunk_: I got the same message |
| 07:14.57 | unitypunk_ | no way. |
| 07:15.00 | unitypunk_ | lol |
| 07:15.31 | unitypunk_ | cant do any of the commands. |
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| 07:17.58 | Skipp_OSX | ah, unitypunk_, sudo /etc/init.d/samba start |
| 07:18.08 | Skipp_OSX | unitypunk_: or run the command as root |
| 07:18.49 | cast | Skipp_OSX: yeah, sudo isn't in the default install and it isn't setup unless you do it yourself when it is installed |
| 07:20.32 | unitypunk_ | ah |
| 07:20.34 | Skipp_OSX | cast: I guess I am such a Unix guy that I forget these things |
| 07:20.54 | Skipp_OSX | cast: sudo is my world |
| 07:21.07 | unitypunk_ | i use su.. |
| 07:21.15 | unitypunk_ | because im never included in sudoers file. |
| 07:21.17 | unitypunk_ | :-p |
| 07:21.40 | Skipp_OSX | unitypunk_: you have to install sudo and then add yourself to the sudo'ers file as root |
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| 07:21.48 | Skipp_OSX | unitypunk_: it is completely painless |
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| 07:24.12 | cast | Skipp_OSX: Unix or Ubuntu? |
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| 07:26.24 | unitypunk | started nmbd and smbd and still nothing |
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| 07:28.11 | Skipp_OSX | cast: huh? Ubuntu is Unix |
| 07:28.14 | neonoe_ | Saj: i cannot answer to your question but I am interested in your solution. If you go further could you tell me how you did please ? |
| 07:28.40 | Skipp_OSX | unitypunk_: how do you know that it is not working? |
| 07:28.44 | Saj | neonoe_, k |
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| 07:29.17 | Rapp | hi everyone! |
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| 07:29.23 | cast | Skipp_OSX: Ubuntu is GNU/Linux, GNU is Not UNIX |
| 07:29.23 | unitypunk | well my pc says the local name is alreaddy in use. |
| 07:29.29 | cast | Skipp_OSX: ;P |
| 07:29.29 | Rapp | when running update-exim4.conf, i always get this: "grep: /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template: No such file or directory" |
| 07:29.34 | unitypunk | and |
| 07:29.47 | unitypunk | atleast on the mapped drive |
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| 07:30.17 | unitypunk | but i cant even seee it on the network overview |
| 07:30.38 | Skipp_OSX | cast: well, I am am unsurprisingly on Debian |
| 07:30.39 | Rapp | any ideas why? |
| 07:30.50 | Skipp_OSX | and I run Mac OS X, which is Unix tm |
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| 07:31.05 | Skipp_OSX | unitypunk_: local name is already in use.... |
| 07:31.43 | manu_hack | hi, am trying to install lenny on a new desktop, but the xserver fails to start with: "please change your input timing to 1280x1024@60Hz", before I used to do it in xorg.conf, but now this file is empty, they have new way of handling x-related config? |
| 07:31.43 | unitypunk | only get that one on them if i try to use the mapped network drives in my computer |
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| 07:32.25 | Skipp_OSX | manu_hack: I am a little rusty on configuring X |
| 07:32.34 | Skipp_OSX | manu_hack: X -configure |
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| 07:33.57 | Skipp_OSX | manu_hack: apparently that no longer works.... |
| 07:35.04 | unitypunk | might be xconf |
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| 07:35.40 | Skipp_OSX | manu_hack: according to the docs I am reading, it should autoconfig X11, but if it doesn't, you have to manually edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 07:35.54 | manu_hack | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org used to be doing the trick, but now it generates me an empty file |
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| 07:36.47 | Skipp_OSX | manu_hack: according to the docs I read, that was disabled as of Winter 2008 |
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| 07:37.45 | unitypunk | man |
| 07:37.47 | unitypunk | frustrating. |
| 07:37.52 | Skipp_OSX | unitypunk_: you are going to have to read some samba docs to figure out what is going on, try searching on that error message |
| 07:39.00 | manu_hack | Skipp_OSX: |
| 07:39.29 | manu_hack | Skipp_OSX: thanks, need to reread the docs again, been a long time I dealt with X |
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| 07:41.11 | Martin_vW | Hello. exim4 is segfaulting on my server whenever OTRS tries to send a mail with it, but I can't reproduce it in the command line. I'd like to debug it using gdb, but exim4-dbg does not seem to contain debug symbols for /usr/sbin/exim4. Any suggestions? |
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| 07:41.36 | manu_hack | so this is not updated: http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg |
| 07:42.28 | Skipp_OSX | manu_hack: generally you don't have to, unfortunately, I looks like you are going to have to screw with your xorg.conf which kind of sucks |
| 07:42.38 | Martin_vW | Oh, never mind. I just noticed the correct package is exim4-daemon-light-dbg. |
| 07:43.21 | Skipp_OSX | manu_hack: now it sounds like it is complaining about the resolution which probably means that you just need to add a Display: line to your Monitors section to choose the resolution |
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| 07:43.36 | Skipp_OSX | manu_hack: but that really should not keep the X server from starting.. |
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| 07:45.33 | manu_hack | Skipp_OSX: actually that X -configure does give me a working xorg.conf |
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| 07:45.43 | manu_hack | so thanks a lot Skipp_OSX :) |
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| 07:46.29 | njathan | guys.. i want to install Debian on my laptop. Do i need to download all the 5 DVDs? where do i get info as which DVD serves what purpose? |
| 07:46.50 | unitypunk | crappy |
| 07:46.56 | cast | njathan: hell no. just grab the first DVD at most |
| 07:47.01 | unitypunk | whats the command to change a users smb password? |
| 07:47.10 | cast | njathan: i grab the netinst cd, which is <300mb |
| 07:47.12 | Skipp_OSX | manu_hack: oh, okay, I am glad, I know that works on FreeBSD but I wasn't sure if it would work in Debian |
| 07:47.41 | Skipp_OSX | njathan: generally no |
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| 07:48.00 | Skipp_OSX | njathan: if you want to install packages from the Internet you just need the netinst cd |
| 07:48.39 | Skipp_OSX | njathan: otherwise for a basic install you only really need the first CD |
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| 07:49.39 | njathan | cast, oh okay. I get the first DVD. I presume it has XFCE (which i intend to use). I dont think i'd get the netinst CD as bandwidth may be an issue. Secondly i dont want to rely on a internet if and when i need to reinstall. |
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| 07:50.00 | doubleclick | hi |
| 07:50.07 | Skipp_OSX | hi |
| 07:50.22 | unitypunk | hmm |
| 07:50.29 | unitypunk | so i san see the server |
| 07:50.32 | unitypunk | but cant connect now. |
| 07:50.48 | Skipp_OSX | njathan: The first CD should be fine.... the first DVD will definitely work |
| 07:51.05 | njathan | thanks Skipp_OSX |
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| 07:51.29 | Skipp_OSX | they are playing the Beatles on MTV, I don't know how to feel about that |
| 07:51.58 | unitypunk | all better now :D |
| 07:52.01 | unitypunk | hallejluha |
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| 07:52.06 | unitypunk | or whatever. |
| 07:52.07 | Skipp_OSX | unitypunk: what did it? |
| 07:52.11 | unitypunk | not too sure |
| 07:52.18 | unitypunk | something broke in my config i assume |
| 07:52.32 | unitypunk | i apt-get removed samba |
| 07:52.36 | unitypunk | and installed it again |
| 07:52.40 | Skipp_OSX | unitypunk: ah.... okay |
| 07:52.53 | unitypunk | and then used the g config tool inside |
| 07:52.58 | unitypunk | like i did last time. |
| 07:53.09 | unitypunk | now i have to remeber how to install php |
| 07:53.10 | Skipp_OSX | unitypunk: strange, you must have had something misconfigured in a config file |
| 07:53.13 | unitypunk | and run it. |
| 07:53.17 | unitypunk | strange |
| 07:53.20 | unitypunk | as i didnt do anything |
| 07:53.22 | unitypunk | to it. |
| 07:53.26 | Skipp_OSX | unitypunk: don't know |
| 07:53.35 | unitypunk | i have computer ghosts i tihnk |
| 07:53.41 | unitypunk | things like that happen all the time |
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| 08:05.30 | Abo | guys, whats this process about? |
| 08:05.32 | Abo | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:05.51 | Abo | and my load average is always: load average: 1.00, 1.00, 0.84 |
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| 08:06.05 | Abo | and when using top, there is nothing using memory/cpu, I stopped everything |
| 08:06.13 | Leonidas | does anyone know why debian stays with gdm 2.20 instead of updating to anything more recent? |
| 08:06.31 | Leonidas | (arch linux does it too, probably for the same reasons) |
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| 08:10.56 | Abo | anyone> |
| 08:11.39 | crzedmonk | hi |
| 08:11.54 | crzedmonk | someone please recomend an mp3 player that will work in terminal |
| 08:12.02 | crzedmonk | or if it is gui I guess that is ok |
| 08:12.09 | crzedmonk | xmms appears to not be around any more |
| 08:12.10 | crzedmonk | :( |
| 08:12.16 | cahoot | aptitude search mp3? |
| 08:12.23 | crzedmonk | it could not play .flac anyways |
| 08:12.25 | crzedmonk | woah |
| 08:12.32 | crzedmonk | wait you can aptitude search |
| 08:12.34 | crzedmonk | SWEET! |
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| 08:14.03 | cahoot | crzedmonk: if nothing else - mplayer |
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| 08:14.30 | mihamina | hi all |
| 08:17.02 | mihamina | I made a "zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdb" and then mounted "/dev/sdb". I want to copy one 700MB iso into it, to be my install CD. When copying, no space left. how to add space? |
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| 08:20.22 | taras | hi taras_by :) |
| 08:25.07 | kchr | crzedmonk, try moc |
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| 08:50.56 | ribasushi | how come I can't access the changelog of this: |
| 08:50.59 | ribasushi | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/linux-libc-dev |
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| 08:59.31 | Leonidas | ribasushi: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/current/changelog ? |
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| 08:59.59 | jeeves_Moss | how can I set up a random number generator to insert a "wait" command after a script before the next one starts? |
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| 09:00.56 | ribasushi | Leonidas: how do I figure out where to look for it (when the link gives a 404) |
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| 09:01.55 | petemc | apt-listchanges , perhaps - unless it looks in the same place |
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| 09:41.59 | DevilChaos | hey have a problem with my xserver was working but till i installed fglrx driver x wont start now and i cant get Xorg -configure to generate a skelital xorg.conf.new file is there something im missing here? |
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| 09:48.05 | DevilChaos | because i cant generate the conf file is it possible for me to write it by hand? |
| 09:48.20 | cast | yes. |
| 09:48.38 | DevilChaos | doh will take me ages lol |
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| 09:50.03 | DevilChaos | cast why do you think that it isnt generating the conf file? |
| 09:51.19 | DevilChaos | nevermind im going to write it out now ~:( |
| 09:51.31 | DevilChaos | cheers |
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| 09:59.12 | imduffy15 | Hi, do any of the network-manager packages support ipv6? |
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| 10:00.42 | tawan | lulz, running debian sid and this came up in iceweaswel |
| 10:00.42 | tawan | "Warning! Your PC is at risk of virus and malware attack. |
| 10:00.42 | tawan | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:00.42 | tawan | Your system requires immediate check! |
| 10:00.43 | tawan | System Security will perform a quick and free scan of your PC for viruses and malicious programs." |
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| 10:01.08 | tawan | spam pah |
| 10:01.08 | themill | dpkg: tell tawan about paste |
| 10:01.26 | tawan | it's not the kind of output that warrants pastebin :P |
| 10:01.50 | cast | or pasting |
| 10:01.54 | themill | it's not the kind of channel that likes masses of text being pasted into it. Particularly with random blank lines in the middle. |
| 10:02.37 | tawan | bla bla ye i op a channel and i know what a bot does not, that some pastes are of code and long outputs and some are ok |
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| 10:03.21 | cast | yeah, he'as an op somewhere other than here. he knows what time it is |
| 10:03.37 | jelly | but you don't know that arguing with a bot is not very useful? :-) |
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| 10:37.54 | nick4 | I want wget to just download 1kb from a file. However it ignores my command: wget -c --quota=1k ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/ls-lR.gz |
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| 10:38.01 | nick4 | Why? and how can I fix it? |
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| 10:48.11 | zeroConf | hey folks - just wanted to say thanks |
| 10:48.39 | zeroConf | thanks for being helping me realize that humans are fucked up - the only good ones are online - thanks folks |
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| 10:50.07 | Woodi | zeroConf: easy man, humans are REALY complicated... |
| 10:50.40 | Woodi | just try understand them |
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| 10:57.09 | rudi_s | JyZyXEL: aptitude search '~dsocks' |
| 10:57.47 | JyZyXEL | but their all clients |
| 10:58.22 | zeroConf | woodi - i can never understand something that can answer true and false to the same question given the same paramaters |
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| 10:59.30 | Maulkin | JyZyXEL: apt-cache search socks |
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| 10:59.52 | Woodi | zeroConf: ppls are not equations... or equations with additional parameter (time)... |
| 10:59.53 | JyZyXEL | theres socks4-server |
| 10:59.57 | JyZyXEL | i wanted socks5 |
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| 11:00.09 | Maulkin | JyZyXEL: Did you actually type that command and look at the result? |
| 11:00.17 | JyZyXEL | yes? |
| 11:00.19 | Woodi | so answer two answer can be different |
| 11:00.29 | JyZyXEL | Maulkin: but did you? |
| 11:00.38 | Maulkin | Then you;'ll have seen hpsocksd |
| 11:00.49 | Maulkin | hpsockd even |
| 11:00.52 | JyZyXEL | HP |
| 11:00.58 | Woodi | add add parameters called mood, lazines, angriness etc... |
| 11:01.05 | JyZyXEL | doesn't sound like free to me |
| 11:01.11 | zeroConf | woodi - i cant do em... they just dont work how things are supposed to be |
| 11:01.28 | Maulkin | It was written by HP. As it says in the description |
| 11:01.51 | JyZyXEL | HP does open source? |
| 11:02.24 | Woodi | i think you should be more patient for ppls. then ppls will be patient for you |
| 11:02.53 | zeroConf | woodi - i give you full credit for being so willing to deal with it - but i am officially over it for now |
| 11:03.30 | Woodi | don't be 0/1 human type man... |
| 11:03.52 | Woodi | but sometimes we need to drop some relationships... |
| 11:04.29 | Woodi | our exceptations is real probblem |
| 11:04.42 | Woodi | but it's offtopic discusion :) |
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| 11:11.27 | talin | hello. how can i check if APM is enabled? |
| 11:12.13 | petemc | grep APM /boot/config-`uname -r` |
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| 11:19.34 | shafu | how can I see the version of an installed app? |
| 11:19.55 | petemc | dplk -l foo or apt-cache policy foo |
| 11:19.58 | petemc | dpkg |
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| 11:21.01 | crzedmonk | how do you enable all repos |
| 11:21.08 | crzedmonk | I hear we are locked out of some in lenny |
| 11:21.34 | cast | you don't want to enable all repos, whatever that means. |
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| 11:21.52 | shafu | How can I update from bash 3.1 to 4.X ? |
| 11:21.53 | talin | petemc: thank you |
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| 11:22.48 | craigevil | crzedmonk: what repo do you want? a pretty much complete lenny lists would have main contrib non-free, security, backports, dmm and maybe volatile |
| 11:22.51 | abrotman | shafu: that's only in experimental |
| 11:22.58 | abrotman | craigevil: you fixed your client? |
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| 11:23.14 | craigevil | abrotman: yes it was a irssi script i removed it |
| 11:23.19 | abrotman | thanks :) |
| 11:23.55 | cast | what the fuck is going on, i cant seem to > into a file, or f.write() into a file |
| 11:24.06 | craigevil | it was only supposed to message someone that sent me a message while i was away not channels |
| 11:24.21 | abrotman | it didn't :) |
| 11:24.30 | craigevil | so i heard |
| 11:24.31 | cast | [said limitations only apply to this python script, everything else works fine] |
| 11:24.32 | abrotman | cast: does it give an error ? |
| 11:24.42 | cast | nah, file is created - but it's just empty |
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| 11:25.11 | abrotman | cast: STDERR instead of STDOUT ? |
| 11:25.53 | cast | hmm, for some reason the timing changes |
| 11:26.14 | cast | ahh night guys |
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| 11:33.21 | IsoLnCHiP | Hi, does anyone have an Idea, what could be wrong with my sound. After I had some sound looping from the flashplayer I unloaded the sound modules and ever since cant get any sound, even after rebooting the whole system. |
| 11:34.24 | Bushmills | cast, disk full |
| 11:34.43 | IsoLnCHiP | (and yes, the volumes look sensible in alsamixer, nothing muted all non-zero) |
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| 11:37.19 | Woodi | IsoLnCHiP: do you manually loaded modules ? |
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| 11:38.34 | Woodi | what you get after 'lsmod|grep snd' ? |
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| 11:38.56 | IsoLnCHiP | I first manually unloaded the modules, but then found alsa reload. |
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| 11:39.25 | IsoLnCHiP | lots of loaded snd modules, and if my memory serves me right the same ones I unloaded before |
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| 11:40.16 | AcTiVaTe | alsamixer works? |
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| 11:42.33 | jamesstanley | Does anyone know how to configure the power-saving mode on the screen in Debian? |
| 11:42.35 | Woodi | sometimes speaker cables can be unplugged or speaker completly muted... |
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| 11:43.51 | abrotman | jamesstanley: what about it? |
| 11:43.56 | jamesstanley | turn it off |
| 11:44.07 | jamesstanley | i don't want power-saving mode to happen |
| 11:44.12 | jamesstanley | if i want to power-save i'll turn the thing off |
| 11:44.32 | Woodi | jamesstanley: sometimes it is set in bios |
| 11:44.32 | IsoLnCHiP | Woodi, its a laptop, and I checked that its not a hardware fault by booting to windows shortly, hardware vol is also not muted :) |
| 11:44.32 | abrotman | !tell jamesstanley about dpms |
| 11:44.47 | jamesstanley | thanks abrotman :) |
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| 11:45.08 | serwou | hi |
| 11:45.13 | jamesstanley | hi |
| 11:45.55 | Woodi | IsoLnCHiP: sometimes music player can be unconfigured - wrong sount output device selected |
| 11:46.41 | IsoLnCHiP | Woodi, im checking with speaker-test which had worked fine before I fiddled with the modules. |
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| 11:47.52 | Woodi | unloading modules can broke player/tester config |
| 11:48.56 | IsoLnCHiP | Ok, sounds like that might be the problem I have, any idea how to fix it? |
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| 11:49.58 | IsoLnCHiP | (btw even a simple cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp should produce some noise, or am I mistaken?) |
| 11:50.22 | Woodi | only if dsp is link to real device |
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| 11:51.35 | IsoLnCHiP | Its a chardev not a symlink on my system |
| 11:51.46 | Saj | hi to all, i have compiled d-i then i got a mini iso image while doing net installation from this i want to give debian-installer/allow_unauthenticated=true ..is it ok to give at kernel command line |
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| 11:52.05 | Woodi | do lspci show some audio/sound device ? |
| 11:52.28 | abrotman | Saj: at the installer prompt .. yes |
| 11:53.04 | Saj | abrotman, thanks |
| 11:54.11 | IsoLnCHiP | Woodi, yes, snd_intel8x0 (which was the one I unloaded earlier) and 16 other modules related to sound, such as snd_pcm(_oss) etc |
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| 11:55.16 | abrotman | does sound work for root ? |
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| 11:56.57 | IsoLnCHiP | abrotman, checking everything as root, neither speaker-test, nor direct cat to /dev/dsp nor mp3blaster |
| 11:57.26 | abrotman | !alsa checklist |
| 11:57.26 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels) 3) arts or esound stopped? 4) OSS modules unloaded? 5) speakers on? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. See also <list alsa users>. |
| 11:58.52 | Woodi | can i install dpkg in command line ? :> |
| 11:59.03 | abrotman | the bot? |
| 11:59.09 | Woodi | yes :) |
| 11:59.16 | abrotman | !tell Woodi about your factoids |
| 11:59.20 | abrotman | it's in a mysql database |
| 11:59.46 | abrotman | oh .. someone messed that up .. see the last URL about the 18 day archive |
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| 12:00.30 | Woodi | !tell abrotman thanx |
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| 12:01.50 | IsoLnCHiP | abrotman, checklist done, except for 4 maybe, dont know how to be sure, no oss modules are loaded. |
| 12:02.17 | Woodi | IsoLnCHiP: oss mus be unloaded |
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| 12:02.34 | Woodi | alsa should be used now |
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| 12:03.52 | IsoLnCHiP | Woodi, as I said about an hour ago everything worked fine, till flashplayer crashed my sound ;) |
| 12:04.38 | IsoLnCHiP | I dont recall having used OSS in ages, I only sometimes use the aoss wrapper for some legacy programs |
| 12:04.49 | Woodi | IsoLnCHiP: so maybe there is problem with flash not system ? |
| 12:05.25 | IsoLnCHiP | Of course flash is broken, but the issue is, that no sound is working at all anymore, even after multiple reboots |
| 12:05.32 | abrotman | have you tried actually shutting the machine down? |
| 12:05.37 | ranix | IsoLnCHiP: due to the problems flash has generally, I suggest it's more likely the problem is flash than you misconfiguring something |
| 12:05.45 | abrotman | leaving it off for a few minutes |
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| 12:06.07 | ranix | your chip could be temporarily fubared if it got put in an odd state of mind |
| 12:06.15 | IsoLnCHiP | Sound worked fine in windows, Im fairly sure its not a hardware issue |
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| 12:06.40 | ranix | hardware issue should be about the farthest thing from your mind |
| 12:06.52 | Woodi | temporaily fubar'ed ? :) |
| 12:07.00 | IsoLnCHiP | (i rebooted to windows to check and reinit the chipset to a 'sane' state) |
| 12:07.30 | ranix | IsoLnCHiP: you rebooted and still no sound then? |
| 12:07.34 | Woodi | acording to fubar definition it is permament :) |
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| 12:07.55 | ranix | Woodi: beyond recognition is not necessarily permanent, just means you can't recognize it |
| 12:08.10 | IsoLnCHiP | correct, thats whats confusing me, previously a clean reboot allways fixed any sound issues |
| 12:08.25 | Woodi | i thinked it was "repair" |
| 12:08.40 | ranix | IsoLnCHiP: try checking your alsamixer for things that have been muted |
| 12:08.41 | Woodi | bot it's ot |
| 12:09.12 | IsoLnCHiP | all levels in alsamixer are non-zero and if trying muting and unmuting all channels |
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| 12:09.18 | IsoLnCHiP | if=i've |
| 12:09.41 | IsoLnCHiP | ups... and trying=tryed, lol |
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| 12:12.10 | AcTiVaTe | IsoLnCHiP: Can you put an lsmod on pastebin? |
| 12:12.26 | IsoLnCHiP | Ive gone through all the alsa checklists, even redid alsaconf, im at a loss. |
| 12:12.29 | IsoLnCHiP | sure, hang on |
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| 12:13.12 | wide_awake | hullo |
| 12:13.28 | wide_awake | how do I check which drive(s) have grub installed in the MBR? |
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| 12:14.11 | petemc | head -c512 /dev/foo | strings | grep GRUB |
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| 12:14.25 | petemc | theres probably other, better ways |
| 12:14.28 | wide_awake | hehe |
| 12:14.44 | wide_awake | I'll try it. |
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| 12:15.25 | IsoLnCHiP | AcTiVaTe, http://paste.debian.net/44675/ |
| 12:16.06 | wide_awake | petemc: works :) |
| 12:16.13 | wide_awake | now I have to install grub on all the other drives. |
| 12:16.14 | petemc | oh, i know it works |
| 12:16.24 | petemc | just not very elegant |
| 12:16.28 | Saj | abrotman, at installation prompt after giving debian-installer/allow_unauthenticated=true it is throwing error as could not find kernel image : debian-installer/allow_unauthenticated=true |
| 12:16.30 | wide_awake | elegant schmelegant ;) |
| 12:16.34 | petemc | :) |
| 12:16.45 | abrotman | Saj: what's the full line you type in ? |
| 12:16.58 | wide_awake | is it normal to install grub on all the drives when using software raid? |
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| 12:17.03 | Saj | abrotman, debian-installer/allow_unauthenticated=true |
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| 12:18.27 | abrotman | Saj: you need mroe than that .. you have to specify an image to boot |