| 00:00.00 | nevyn | you need to edit the partition table. |
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| 00:00.14 | Holle_ | no the command says nothing and seem to work. palantir says cannot open device. |
| 00:00.23 | abrotman | Holle_: do you have the contrib/non-free sources enabled ? |
| 00:00.24 | nsadmin | qop: an indirect way is using nice |
| 00:00.26 | cantido | I think you've been able to grow vmware images with the commandline tools for a while.. |
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| 00:00.39 | Holle_ | where could i see this? |
| 00:00.48 | nsadmin | Holle_: so the driver is not inserted |
| 00:00.49 | qop | nsadmin: uhm... and the direct? :) |
| 00:00.52 | nevyn | oh_noes: you can run parted online. |
| 00:01.02 | nevyn | meetings :( |
| 00:01.05 | nsadmin | qop: no idea |
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| 00:01.13 | qop | :P oks |
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| 00:01.31 | Holle_ | how do i insert the driver? |
| 00:01.45 | nsadmin | try modconf |
| 00:01.57 | Holle_ | command not found |
| 00:02.04 | brbrbr | so udev lack of any v4l devices |
| 00:02.15 | abrotman | Holle_: /etc/apt/sources |
| 00:02.18 | abrotman | erm |
| 00:02.18 | nsadmin | you use its user interface to locate the driver... then hit enter |
| 00:02.19 | abrotman | Holle_: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 00:02.21 | brbrbr | which meant, asap, lack of other, critical, v4l, tools |
| 00:02.30 | abrotman | nsadmin: he needs to compile the driver? |
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| 00:02.44 | abrotman | !quickcam |
| 00:02.44 | dpkg | QuickCam is a brand of web camera manufactured by Logitech. UVC and non-UVC device lists: http://quickcamteam.net/devices . To install the driver for old-model QuickCam Express/Web: "aptitude install module-assistant qc-usb-utils && m-a a-i qc-usb && modprobe quickcam". Later models are supported by either the GSPCA or USB Video Class drivers, ask me about <gspca> or <uvcvideo> respectively. See also <webcam>. |
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| 00:03.07 | Holle_ | abrotman: a big list with links. |
| 00:03.09 | nineclock | hiz |
| 00:03.22 | qop | Google say that he needs the module sn9c102 |
| 00:03.33 | nsadmin | abrotman: I'm not familiar with the driver... I'm hoping it's already built and already in the kernel... but I don't think the device is known |
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| 00:03.35 | qop | modprobe sn9c102 should suffice |
| 00:03.39 | brbrbr | latest cams are "USB class"-compliant, more or less ;) |
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| 00:04.14 | nsadmin | qop: modconf would arrange for that to be done on boot |
| 00:04.35 | nsadmin | which might be what he wants; I dunno... |
| 00:04.43 | brbrbr | if im remember correctly debain even have one GUI[meant x11] utility for v4l devices |
| 00:04.44 | qop | nsadmin: we need to know if it is working before |
| 00:05.23 | cantido | plently of apps will work for v4l devices, vlc, tvtime, kaffeine,.. |
| 00:05.24 | qop | I test cam with cheese |
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| 00:05.55 | brbrbr | but which one can *control* devices itself ? not use it ? |
| 00:06.02 | nsadmin | I rhyme cam with green eggs and ham! |
| 00:06.30 | nineclock | i' have created an openvpn and i have two server working 10.0.0.1 and .2 , now i need to mount /home/dir1/ from server1 to /home/dir2/ into server2 , some ideas ? |
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| 00:07.00 | brbrbr | ha, its called "dov4l" |
| 00:07.05 | Holle_ | so many strange names of programs/drivers... what should i do now? |
| 00:07.08 | cantido | brbrbr: what do you mean by control? |
| 00:07.09 | brbrbr | funny name |
| 00:07.12 | qop | hates flash and its gigantic cpu usage |
| 00:07.22 | brbrbr | "program to set and query settings of video4linux devices" (c) |
| 00:07.28 | nsadmin | Holle_: see if that modprobe works |
| 00:07.28 | cantido | brbrbr: most of them can set the grab resolution etc |
| 00:07.53 | Holle_ | "modprobe sn9c102" ? |
| 00:07.58 | brbrbr | yeah |
| 00:08.21 | Holle_ | should i unplug the cam after the command? |
| 00:08.33 | nsadmin | no, keep it where it is |
| 00:08.54 | nsadmin | does it work? or give an error? |
| 00:08.57 | Holle_ | "ls /dev/vid*" no such file... |
| 00:09.04 | qop | nsadmin: ah ah.. guess I can limit it with policykit |
| 00:09.04 | Holle_ | no error |
| 00:09.26 | qop | as a matter of fact I am sure |
| 00:09.33 | nsadmin | ok, lsmod | grep sn9 |
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| 00:09.57 | nsadmin | how many lines? |
| 00:10.01 | Piet | hi |
| 00:10.08 | Holle_ | 4 |
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| 00:10.43 | nsadmin | ok, not sure why there would be 4... |
| 00:10.48 | Holle_ | sn9c102, videodev, usbcore, d,uhci_hcd |
| 00:10.56 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 00:10.56 | Piet | i have a mysql database which a long time ago lost its mysql/table_priv.MYI file |
| 00:11.07 | nsadmin | so it did work |
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| 00:11.25 | Piet | i still have the .MYD and .frm files. Is there a chance I can recover the mysql/table_priv.MYI from this? |
| 00:11.28 | Holle_ | what does this mean? the driver is loadede`? |
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| 00:11.54 | nsadmin | yes, and other modules are using it |
| 00:12.00 | Piet | alternatively, if the info is lost (no big deal), how do i get back into a consistent state? |
| 00:12.31 | Piet | loves wesnoth |
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| 00:12.52 | konr | Hmm, my notebook's network card cannot detect my hotspot, which in 30cm away from me. A (cheap) usb wireless adapter, however, can. What could be wrong? |
| 00:12.59 | Holle_ | and how could palantir use it? |
| 00:13.15 | Titan8990 | konr, lack of driver or proper configuration |
| 00:13.25 | nsadmin | Piet: that depends pretty strongly on the data model... you should be able to add user-defined constraints to the table definitions... but I don't think mysql has constraints |
| 00:13.56 | brbrbr | yep and other SQL-related things |
| 00:14.01 | brbrbr | even in 5 tree |
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| 00:14.06 | brbrbr | not much |
| 00:14.25 | Piet | nsadmin: this is a generic mysql table which stores access privileges of mysql users to mysql databases |
| 00:14.51 | nsadmin | what's inconsistant about it now? |
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| 00:15.37 | konr | Is there a way to make aptitude use axel instead of wget? |
| 00:15.52 | Holle_ | "cannot open video device /dev/video0." where is the right video device? |
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| 00:16.17 | nsadmin | Holle_: what reason does it give? |
| 00:16.19 | Piet | nsadmin: the myisam index file is missing completely |
| 00:16.33 | Holle_ | no such file |
| 00:16.45 | nsadmin | Piet I guess you could remake the index |
| 00:17.01 | nsadmin | Holle_: look in /dev and see what is there videowise |
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| 00:17.20 | nsadmin | you can try ls -C | less |
| 00:17.28 | Piet | nsadmin: supposedly, but i would not know how. i tried a lot of ways, but did not succeed |
| 00:17.44 | nsadmin | you don't have the source? |
| 00:18.16 | Piet | nsadmin: whom are you talking to? |
| 00:18.22 | konr | or perhaps can I get a list of the files that need downloading with aptitude? It's a shame to see 22kb/s in a 12mbps connection |
| 00:18.24 | nsadmin | see... I work with the sql statements in text files |
| 00:18.52 | nsadmin | I can add the data model to the db using one script and drop it using another |
| 00:18.59 | Holle_ | i can't find anything the could be the video device :( |
| 00:19.25 | nsadmin | Holle_: see if dmesg says anything about it |
| 00:19.32 | brbrbr | so, you need to re-initialize v4l(Video For Linux)subsystems |
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| 00:19.38 | Holle_ | usb 1-1: new usb device... |
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| 00:20.02 | brbrbr | which leads to creating appropriate devices in udev. among other things. |
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| 00:20.13 | brbrbr | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:20.18 | Titan8990 | konr, sure its not the mirror your using? |
| 00:20.23 | nsadmin | brbrbr: how can he do that? |
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| 00:20.52 | nsadmin | or what doc would he read that describes it |
| 00:20.53 | Titan8990 | konr, sorry, i read up.... |
| 00:20.53 | brbrbr | /me have no clue[at now], but checking man pages :) |
| 00:21.14 | brbrbr | check all "video for linux" -related |
| 00:21.31 | Piet | nsadmin: i think it is possible to recreate generic priviledge tables with some command, yes. i could try to stop mysql, remove the .MYD and .frm files, too, and restart it, and eother hope that it self heals, or run the script which will reinster the default priviledge tables. |
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| 00:22.37 | Holle_ | that means, that i need to create a device? |
| 00:23.02 | nsadmin | I think he means you have to cause a subsystem to restart |
| 00:23.07 | brbrbr | maybe, but in perfect case, v4l create it by itself |
| 00:23.42 | Holle_ | do i have to start v4l extra? |
| 00:24.23 | nsadmin | Piet: dunno what that command would be |
| 00:24.42 | nsadmin | I run postgres, and suggest you look into it |
| 00:25.03 | Holle_ | what is this driver used for? http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/ do i need this? |
| 00:25.25 | brbrbr | eventually found http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Main_Page and enjoed it :) |
| 00:25.51 | nsadmin | I also suggest that when you are developing a data model that you write scripts that (1) create it and (2) drop it |
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| 00:27.10 | nsadmin | when you're experimenting you can also run the mysql text-based client inside emacs shell mode |
| 00:28.04 | brbrbr | Holle_ how do you say, you WebCam model ? |
| 00:28.34 | Holle_ | logitech quickcam web |
| 00:28.41 | nsadmin | (and just like that, you could also run the postgres text client, or the oracle text client that way) |
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| 00:32.30 | Piet | nsadmin: hehe, thanks for your help nevertheless |
| 00:32.50 | Holle_ | do you have any idea what i could do? |
| 00:33.30 | nsadmin | Holle_: try aptitude install modconf |
| 00:33.36 | nsadmin | see if that works |
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| 00:35.06 | nsadmin | if it does... modprobe -r sn9c102 |
| 00:35.35 | Holle_ | modprobe -r sn9c102 -> OK |
| 00:35.48 | nsadmin | then run modconf, poke around looking for sn9c102, when you find it, hit enter, have it install that driver, then back out and exit |
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| 00:35.57 | zeroConf | brbrbr - check #v4l |
| 00:36.00 | nsadmin | then you could try rebooting |
| 00:36.30 | nsadmin | Holle_: modconf installed correctly? |
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| 00:37.52 | brbrbr | gosh, most enumerate pages/docs just crappy outdated/incoherent |
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| 00:38.40 | Holle_ | modconf installed correctly. i added sn9c102 to the kernel. linux is rebooting. |
| 00:38.41 | cusco | hi |
| 00:39.05 | Holle_ | now "modprobe -r sn9c102" again? |
| 00:39.10 | cusco | I fucked up real good |
| 00:39.28 | cusco | so... is there any sane solution for some one who remover /var |
| 00:39.41 | cusco | not much installed here, only a mysqlserver |
| 00:39.52 | nsadmin | Holle_: no, you shoudl find when it comes back up that sn9c102 is automatically inserted |
| 00:40.03 | cusco | I have a backup of the db so its no problem |
| 00:40.18 | cusco | I removed /var/ for chirst sake |
| 00:40.21 | nsadmin | cusco: I'd reinstall then restore the backup |
| 00:40.56 | cusco | im thinking fopr i in $(dpkg -l) do apt-get install -o dpkg:confmiss |
| 00:41.05 | Holle_ | lsmod | grep sn9 says so. |
| 00:41.15 | cusco | q dpkg confmiss |
| 00:41.20 | nsadmin | it's a damn lucky thing you have a backup |
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| 00:41.40 | cusco | this is actually a backup machine |
| 00:41.50 | cusco | so, no problem, if primary fils this one kicks in |
| 00:41.58 | nsadmin | well sure, you could try that... do you have the time? |
| 00:42.08 | cusco | but I FUCKIN REMOVED /var |
| 00:42.11 | cusco | how stupid is that |
| 00:42.37 | cusco | the packages should still be in... errr .... /var/cache... ohoh |
| 00:43.01 | cusco | "#$%&/( |
| 00:43.02 | abrotman | senses anger |
| 00:43.11 | cusco | sorry |
| 00:43.13 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:43.16 | cusco | im mad at myself |
| 00:43.18 | nsadmin | | anger (i=anger@xob.kapsi.fi) (Finland) |
| 00:43.18 | nsadmin | : ircname : Tuomas Angervuori |
| 00:43.18 | Holle_ | how could i do this? |
| 00:43.27 | cusco | nsadmin: lol |
| 00:43.46 | nsadmin | abrotman: wow! you found a fin! |
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| 00:43.56 | cusco | would anybody else have another solution |
| 00:44.00 | cusco | for restoring /var? |
| 00:44.03 | abrotman | there are fins in here ? |
| 00:44.13 | abrotman | cusco: all of it ? |
| 00:44.14 | nsadmin | well he's not in here... |
| 00:44.26 | cusco | abrotman: the bits that are needed for the system to run |
| 00:44.47 | Holle_ | nsadmin: what to do now? |
| 00:45.02 | abrotman | cusco: you'd have to give more info .. like what the system does .. where's the backup of the backup machine ? :) |
| 00:45.12 | nsadmin | Holle_: see if theres now anything in /dev that looks like a video device |
| 00:45.27 | Holle_ | nothing. |
| 00:45.41 | cusco | abrotman: only base system with mysql server, I still have the dupm in /root that I used to set musql up |
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| 00:45.53 | nsadmin | maybe your v4l isn't set up properly |
| 00:45.54 | cusco | forgetting mysql, what about the base-system |
| 00:46.07 | Holle_ | i would say the same devices as before. video device = device name that contains somthing with "vid"? |
| 00:46.28 | nsadmin | Holle_: that would be a good first guess |
| 00:46.32 | abrotman | cusco: you're going to have a hard time recreating all the dpkg/apt* files |
| 00:46.55 | cusco | you mean, the archives? |
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| 00:46.58 | nsadmin | oh right, he doesn't have a debian |
| 00:47.04 | nsadmin | no, the package databse |
| 00:47.06 | cusco | right, dpkg -l |
| 00:47.07 | cusco | ouch |
| 00:47.11 | cusco | ok |
| 00:47.22 | cusco | no can do, I will re-install |
| 00:47.28 | cusco | bloody hell |
| 00:47.28 | abrotman | !tell cusco about reinstall |
| 00:47.29 | Holle_ | could i check/test v4l? |
| 00:47.56 | nsadmin | cusco: you do have a backup of the data in the db? |
| 00:48.06 | cusco | nsadmin: yes, its running live lol |
| 00:48.07 | nsadmin | like a dump file? |
| 00:48.14 | abrotman | !reinstall |
| 00:48.14 | dpkg | methinks reinstall is aptitude reinstall '~i' ; or COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt , then later, dpkg --set-selections < my_packages.txt && apt-get install . See also <aptitude clone> <debian clone> |
| 00:48.16 | nsadmin | oh, ok... so you could make one |
| 00:48.16 | cusco | abrotman: dpkg -l canf stat som /var archive to read from |
| 00:48.23 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 00:48.26 | cusco | nsadmin: yes no prob |
| 00:48.28 | abrotman | oh .. where'd the other one go |
| 00:48.42 | nsadmin | abrotman: that would be hard without a /var :) |
| 00:48.43 | abrotman | oh wait |
| 00:48.45 | cusco | !listvalues *reinstall* |
| 00:48.47 | dpkg | Factoid search of '*reinstall*' by value (15 of 26): compromised system ;; downgrades ;; fixmbr ;; flw29 ;; grub read error ;; moron quote 1 ;; netbook ;; reinstall ;; reinstall everything ;; synaptic ;; u3 ;; unfrenchfry ;; windows-mentality ;; xm4n ;; zimnyx. |
| 00:48.49 | abrotman | nah |
| 00:49.07 | brbrbr | Holle_ do you sure its not Labtec Webcam ? |
| 00:49.26 | abrotman | !status-recovery |
| 00:49.27 | dpkg | If your dpkg status file has become corrupted, first backup the current version, and restore a backup from /var/backups/dpkg.status. If all of those are corrupted/missing, then you will have to reinstall all of the packages you currently have installed. try this: find /usr/share/doc -maxdepth 1 -mindepth 1 -type d -not -name texmf -not -name debian -printf '%f install\n'|xargs aptitude --schedule-only reinstall; aptitude install;; |
| 00:49.30 | gaintsura | is kde4 a stable package yet? |
| 00:49.34 | abrotman | no |
| 00:49.39 | abrotman | and it won't be part of lenny officially |
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| 00:49.51 | gaintsura | what about through contrib/non-free? |
| 00:50.06 | abrotman | how does contrib/non-free relate ? |
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| 00:50.15 | cusco | damn how to copy that now.. ok hold |
| 00:50.16 | brbrbr | Holle_, according to http://www.quickcamteam.net/devices/non-uvc-webcams, you need "qc-usb" webcam driver |
| 00:50.23 | gaintsura | .. nvm.. so I have to build kde4 from source? |
| 00:50.25 | abrotman | i said that .. like an hour ago |
| 00:50.29 | abrotman | !quickcam |
| 00:50.29 | dpkg | QuickCam is a brand of web camera manufactured by Logitech. UVC and non-UVC device lists: http://quickcamteam.net/devices . To install the driver for old-model QuickCam Express/Web: "aptitude install module-assistant qc-usb-utils && m-a a-i qc-usb && modprobe quickcam". Later models are supported by either the GSPCA or USB Video Class drivers, ask me about <gspca> or <uvcvideo> respectively. See also <webcam>. |
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| 00:50.45 | abrotman | for some reason .. he got led off on some goofy trail |
| 00:50.49 | Holle_ | it is definitly a logitech quickcam web |
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| 00:50.58 | abrotman | gaintsura: or you can use kde4.2 on lenny via a backport |
| 00:51.24 | brbrbr | Holle_ check http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/ |
| 00:51.28 | abrotman | wtf |
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| 00:51.51 | abrotman | Holle_: did you enable contrib/non-free sources yet? |
| 00:52.03 | gaintsura | abrotman: mind guiding me through that in a readers digest like version? |
| 00:52.06 | Holle_ | brbrbr: should i try to install it, as it is described on the site? |
| 00:52.08 | nsadmin | Holle_: oh well... try that driver... go into modconf again, find the other driver and uninstall it, then find qc-usb and install that |
| 00:52.15 | abrotman | gaintsura: ask #debian-kde on OFTC |
| 00:52.17 | abrotman | Holle_: did you enable contrib/non-free sources yet? |
| 00:52.25 | abrotman | nsadmin: BUILD IT |
| 00:52.36 | brbrbr | Holel_ im this you should :) at least, Logitech, thinks that way ;) |
| 00:52.42 | nsadmin | he has to build it? |
| 00:52.44 | abrotman | Holle_: please don't do that |
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| 00:52.50 | brbrbr | until they become supported by UVC |
| 00:53.00 | abrotman | nsadmin: i said that *an hour* ago .. maybe you should do more reading, less shouting |
| 00:53.19 | nsadmin | didn't notice any shouting :) |
| 00:54.04 | abrotman | Holle_: please use the debian driver .. not the website |
| 00:54.25 | Holle_ | i removed sn9c102 from the kernel. now i look for qc-usb? |
| 00:54.42 | abrotman | thinks he must be invisible ... |
| 00:55.11 | nsadmin | Holle_: no... evidently you wont' find that driver so easily... you have to build it... see what abrotman is saying to you |
| 00:55.24 | Holle_ | so what i have to do? |
| 00:55.48 | abrotman | the bot has said .. about three times .. and i've asked you repeatedly about contrib/non-free sources |
| 00:56.12 | cusco | abrotman: error on that find command |
| 00:56.14 | Holle_ | what are contrib/non-free sources? the sources.list? |
| 00:56.14 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 00:56.18 | cusco | it says path must come first |
| 00:56.27 | bcolenj | is there any way to tar the root filesystem and save it to a secondary disk, unmount root and remount a new disk, then transfer over the contents, while the system is running? |
| 00:56.28 | cusco | I do not understand, path comes first |
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| 00:56.41 | abrotman | cusco: what did you type in ? |
| 00:56.50 | nsadmin | cusco: find <pathsGoHere> <expression> |
| 00:56.51 | cusco | copy past from dpkg |
| 00:56.59 | cusco | yes exactlty |
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| 00:57.02 | brbrbr | abrotman, but its harder way for beginner |
| 00:57.18 | abrotman | brbrbr: the hell it is |
| 00:57.23 | brbrbr | -) |
| 00:57.54 | Holle_ | how could i enable contrib/non-free sources? |
| 00:58.10 | cusco | paths must precede expression - find errors out |
| 00:58.17 | nsadmin | Holle_: you would edit your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 00:58.37 | abrotman | Holle_: at the end of each line in there .. put a " contrib non-free" |
| 00:58.55 | nsadmin | cusco show the command you're running to produce that error msg |
| 00:59.08 | cusco | that one |
| 00:59.23 | nsadmin | yes, that one. show the command |
| 00:59.24 | brbrbr | butit maybe same driver in result ;) |
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| 00:59.31 | cusco | I cannot copy paste, no X |
| 00:59.38 | abrotman | gpm can copy/paste |
| 00:59.51 | DetroitLibertyPe | so there is a particular website that shows OK in opera, but in Iceweasal its mostly a big white block, I tried to check the source to see if I was missing a plugin or something, and the source box is just a big white space, any ideas what could be causing this? |
| 00:59.53 | cusco | tho I lastloged that from irssi, and then $(cat file) |
| 00:59.55 | Holle_ | abrotman: at the and of each line already stands contrib non free |
| 01:00.02 | cusco | gpm? |
| 01:00.07 | abrotman | gpm |
| 01:00.10 | nsadmin | or you can aptitude install pastebinit |
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| 01:00.24 | cusco | cant install... no var |
| 01:00.25 | cusco | lol |
| 01:00.26 | abrotman | Holle_: aptitude install module-assistant qc-usb-utils && m-a a-i qc-usb && modprobe quickcam |
| 01:00.35 | DetroitLibertyPe | webpage is http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2009_08_24_louaaa_tolaaa_1 if that helps |
| 01:00.41 | cusco | hold |
| 01:01.13 | h725 | does anybody else (besides me) experience issues with fglrx-drivers lately (i.e., computer freezes as soon as X starts) |
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| 01:01.34 | brbrbr | jsp, hmm |
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| 01:02.07 | cusco | ok it works if I type it by hand |
| 01:02.22 | abrotman | DetroitLibertyPe: version of debian ? |
| 01:02.33 | DetroitLibertyPe | 5.0.2 |
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| 01:03.03 | abrotman | DetroitLibertyPe: it's a flash page |
| 01:03.14 | abrotman | DetroitLibertyPe: toledo won 32-5 |
| 01:03.20 | brbrbr | -) |
| 01:03.35 | DetroitLibertyPe | no, they lost 5-0 |
| 01:03.51 | abrotman | so what do you want the page for ? :) |
| 01:04.00 | abrotman | DetroitLibertyPe: anyways .. do "about:plugins" |
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| 01:04.14 | nineclock | hi |
| 01:04.17 | abrotman | DetroitLibertyPe: which flash is it using .. is it gnash? swfdec? adobe flash ? |
| 01:04.27 | DetroitLibertyPe | well its too late for tonight, but I'm more considered with learning why my system is doing |
| 01:04.31 | nineclock | it possibile to mount /dir1 to /dir2 in fstab ? |
| 01:04.40 | nineclock | fstab can do it? |
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| 01:04.59 | DetroitLibertyPe | i know its not adobe (though opera maybe) how do I check that again? |
| 01:05.09 | abrotman | about:plugins |
| 01:05.09 | nevyn | nineclock: I think what you want is a symlink |
| 01:05.14 | djahandarie | I'm trying to get Tor+Privoxy to work on Debian, and I followed all the guides, but for some reason Firefox+Torbutton doesn't seem to work |
| 01:05.24 | Holle_ | abrotman: m-a says that i have to add the contrib and non free archieves. what's wrong? |
| 01:05.29 | DetroitLibertyPe | sorry didn't read all of that |
| 01:05.30 | nevyn | nineclock: mount does something different from what you want... |
| 01:05.39 | abrotman | Holle_: put your /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin |
| 01:05.47 | cusco | abrotman: after typing it by hand, cannot do it /var/lib/dpkg/status cannot be found |
| 01:05.50 | cusco | lol |
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| 01:05.53 | nineclock | yes but is possibile to do with fstab ? |
| 01:05.58 | abrotman | cusco: but you're trying to rebuild it ? |
| 01:06.04 | cusco | ok im going to reinstall it |
| 01:06.10 | cusco | abrotman: I was following that dpkg command |
| 01:06.21 | abrotman | which one? |
| 01:06.32 | cusco | find blah|cxaregs aptiotude -schedule only |
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| 01:06.39 | cusco | sorry (keyboard) |
| 01:06.44 | abrotman | that's not the command |
| 01:06.52 | Interphase | howdy, what do I need to do to have a script run on shutdown? |
| 01:06.59 | abrotman | find /usr/share/doc -maxdepth 1 -mindepth 1 -type d -not -name texmf -not -name debian -printf '%f install\n'|xargs aptitude --schedule-only reinstall; aptitude install;; |
| 01:07.01 | abrotman | that one ? |
| 01:07.28 | cusco | yes |
| 01:07.29 | DetroitLibertyPe | abortman:swfdec |
| 01:07.49 | bcolenj | is there any way to tar the root filesystem and save it to a secondary disk, unmount root and remount a new disk, then transfer over the contents, while the system is running? |
| 01:07.52 | abrotman | Interphase: /etc/init.d/ and /etc/rc0.d/ |
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| 01:07.57 | abrotman | DetroitLibertyPe: that's why |
| 01:07.58 | dondelelcaro | bcolenj: yes |
| 01:07.59 | cusco | really, nevermind, I will reinstall |
| 01:08.04 | abrotman | !tell DetroitLibertyPe about adobe flash |
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| 01:08.22 | bcolenj | dondelelcaro: could you point me in the correct direction? |
| 01:08.26 | cusco | $@#$#/!§ |
| 01:08.32 | dondelelcaro | bcolenj: but it's not trivial at all, so you're much better off doing it from a rescue disk |
| 01:08.35 | Interphase | abrotman, probably /etc/rc6.d/ too? |
| 01:08.51 | abrotman | that's reboot, not shutdown .. but if that's waht you want,yes |
| 01:08.53 | dondelelcaro | (and it's certainly not something you can do from anything but single user mode) |
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| 01:08.56 | Holle_ | abrotman: http://haskell.pastebin.com/m54e0a18b |
| 01:09.25 | bcolenj | dondelelcaro: i was trying to avoid a rescue disk but i guess i will just do that |
| 01:09.26 | abrotman | wtf |
| 01:09.40 | abrotman | Holle_: where the hell did you get that sources.list ? |
| 01:10.06 | Holle_ | somewhere from the net. the standard list was empty. |
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| 01:10.42 | abrotman | no it wasn't |
| 01:10.56 | abrotman | that might be the worst sources.list i've ever seen |
| 01:10.59 | Holle_ | i thought so. |
| 01:11.05 | Holle_ | sorry |
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| 01:11.18 | abrotman | judd: versions qc-usb-source |
| 01:11.18 | judd | abrotman: qc-usb-source -- etch: 0.6.6-1 lenny: 0.6.6-6 sid: 0.6.6-6 squeeze: 0.6.6-6 |
| 01:11.45 | DetroitLibertyPe | so there are still quite a few flash (i'm not really sure what the right word is, sites, componets, something) that don't work withouth the non-free flash plugin? |
| 01:11.56 | DetroitLibertyPe | on a side not, I really, really hate flash |
| 01:12.01 | abrotman | Holle_: aptitude update && aptitude install module-assistant qc-usb-utils && m-a a-i qc-usb && modprobe quickcam |
| 01:12.11 | abrotman | DetroitLibertyPe: right |
| 01:12.39 | Holle_ | i have a new problem: my cf card is nearly filld ./ |
| 01:13.09 | Holle_ | is there a way to get some free space? |
| 01:13.21 | Interphase | what does the 'S' or the 'K' mean in rc.? script titles? |
| 01:13.26 | abrotman | start/kill |
| 01:13.29 | nsadmin | Holle_: get a larger card? |
| 01:13.30 | Interphase | thank you |
| 01:14.13 | Holle_ | nsadmin: nice idea :) |
| 01:14.57 | Holle_ | maybe i reinstall debian and use instead of the netinst the minimum inst |
| 01:15.20 | abrotman | and don't screw up your sources.list |
| 01:15.32 | DetroitLibertyPe | so why do so many people use flash, is it really easy to code or something, it always seems to make everything so slow and ridiculous? not to mention its not open |
| 01:16.19 | abrotman | it makes creating bad websites really easy |
| 01:16.20 | brbrbr | because most people dont aware of w3c.org w3sc flash alternatives existence ;P |
| 01:16.26 | nevyn | DetroitLibertyPe: a lot of it is inertia.. flash was on the scene really early.. |
| 01:16.38 | abrotman | nevyn: define 'early' ... |
| 01:16.47 | nevyn | long before svg was actually supported |
| 01:16.52 | nevyn | in browsers. |
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| 01:17.28 | SuperMiguel | whats the best raid 0 stripe size to install debian? |
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| 01:18.11 | sharpie1 | hi, i don't have sound in vlc or gmplayer |
| 01:18.14 | sharpie1 | sound works on youtube |
| 01:18.28 | dondelelcaro | SuperMiguel: the defaults should be perfectly reasonable; anything else requires benchmarks with your hardware, configuration and use case. |
| 01:19.09 | Holle_ | abrotman: is this the right image: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.2a/i386/iso-cd/debian-502a-i386-CD-1.iso |
| 01:19.21 | AcTiVaTe | sharpie1: vlc and such work again when you close the browser? |
| 01:19.40 | abrotman | Holle_: that's CD1 .. you could probably get it done with the netinst |
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| 01:19.49 | sharpie1 | AcTiVaTe: what browser? |
| 01:20.06 | AcTiVaTe | sharpie1: What do you use to watch YouTube then? |
| 01:20.22 | Holle_ | abrotman: during the installation i don't have a internet connection, because i have to use vpnc. |
| 01:20.37 | abrotman | the netinst doesn't need the web to finish the install |
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| 01:21.00 | Holle_ | so i take the netinst and finish setup. |
| 01:21.22 | sharpie1 | AcTiVaTe: still no sound... |
| 01:22.03 | nsadmin | Holle_: so when the netinst gets to the place where network might be configured, you would continue without configuring network, and the netinst has some packages on it that will be installed |
| 01:22.20 | AcTiVaTe | sharpie1: Perhaps running either of those commands from terminal will show why in the console output. |
| 01:22.31 | nsadmin | the only caveat being, you have to configure the network later |
| 01:22.47 | Holle_ | ok i'll try it. |
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| 01:24.07 | sharpie1 | AcTiVaTe: here's the output. ideas? http://pastebin.com/m7ad84df7 |
| 01:25.02 | AcTiVaTe | sharpie1: The PCM name looks wrong |
| 01:25.23 | Interphase | abrotman, what does it mean to start or kill a script? |
| 01:25.26 | AcTiVaTe | sharpie1: Try aplay -L |
| 01:25.42 | abrotman | Interphase: /etc/init.d/skeleton |
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| 01:25.55 | nsadmin | and /etc/init.d/README |
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| 01:26.36 | sharpie1 | AcTiVaTe: http://pastebin.com/m248fdb73 |
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| 01:27.04 | nsadmin | Interphase: start: /etc/init.d/someserver start ; kill: /etc/init.d/someserver stop |
| 01:27.30 | Interphase | nsadmin, thank you, that is what I wanted to know |
| 01:27.57 | nsadmin | Interphase: now look at /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 01:28.03 | Interphase | I am |
| 01:29.17 | nsadmin | then look at ls -l /etc/rc2.d |
| 01:29.32 | nsadmin | notice how they are links to scripts in /etc/init.d |
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| 01:29.43 | AcTiVaTe | sharpie1: aplay file.wav does work ? |
| 01:29.50 | Holle_ | abrotman: could i install debian on a usb stick instead of my cf card? |
| 01:30.04 | abrotman | you could |
| 01:30.28 | sharpie1 | AcTiVaTe: no... |
| 01:30.39 | AcTiVaTe | sharpie1: same message? |
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| 01:30.44 | nsadmin | Holle_: one caveat, make sure yhou can boot |
| 01:31.01 | Holle_ | because the stick is bigger than the card. or would 512 mb be enough? |
| 01:31.04 | sharpie1 | AcTiVaTe: http://pastebin.com/m5a475f47 |
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| 01:31.22 | abrotman | Holle_: depends what you want to do with it |
| 01:31.34 | Holle_ | only webcam server |
| 01:31.52 | konr | is there a way to use multithreaded download with aptitude? |
| 01:31.55 | brbrbr | with what ? vls ? |
| 01:32.06 | Holle_ | palantir |
| 01:32.20 | sharpie1 | AcTiVaTe: do i need to resetup alsa? |
| 01:32.29 | sharpie1 | i tired editing some config files for 5.1 sound |
| 01:32.31 | Holle_ | or something similiar that could stream a video |
| 01:32.32 | abrotman | which isn't in debian .. and would need to be compiled .. yay |
| 01:32.41 | Holle_ | ups. |
| 01:32.58 | Holle_ | do you know another streaming app? |
| 01:33.25 | DetroitLibertyPe | I change my resolution everytime I boot up and my settings aren't saved, any idea what I'm doing wrong? |
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| 01:33.49 | brbrbr | should fit, i think |
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| 01:34.29 | Holle_ | brbrbr: to use palantir? |
| 01:34.37 | Holle_ | or do you mean the space? |
| 01:34.42 | brbrbr | uhuh |
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| 01:34.49 | brbrbr | its not to BIG :) |
| 01:35.01 | brbrbr | as im suspect initially :) |
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| 01:35.11 | AcTiVaTe | sharpie1: My guess is there is a typo |
| 01:35.20 | sharpie1 | AcTiVaTe: which file? |
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| 01:35.32 | AcTiVaTe | sharpie1: Something behing surround51 which is misinterpreted. No idea which file. You edited it ;) |
| 01:35.35 | Holle_ | and what software could i use for streaming a video of the webcam? |
| 01:35.38 | AcTiVaTe | sharpie1: ~/.asoundrc perhaps? |
| 01:35.38 | konr | how can I select a mirror from a list of mirrors, like there was in the installation? |
| 01:35.49 | abrotman | apt-spy or netselect-apt |
| 01:35.53 | abrotman | !tell konr about mirrors |
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| 01:36.21 | cablguy | Just installed 5.0 on my laptop, Toshiba satellite and can't get the network settings to save.. thus, can't get a net connection. any help? |
| 01:36.47 | abrotman | to save ? |
| 01:36.52 | cablguy | indeed.. |
| 01:37.01 | cablguy | tried a least 3 times. |
| 01:37.05 | cablguy | even rebooted.. |
| 01:37.07 | cablguy | no go |
| 01:38.14 | abrotman | cablguy: wired or wireless ? |
| 01:38.16 | sharpie1 | AcTiVaTe: i just edited asoundrc and remove everything. still having no sound in vlc |
| 01:38.20 | cablguy | wired.. |
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| 01:38.35 | abrotman | cablguy: dmesg | grep eth .. do you see anything ? |
| 01:38.42 | cablguy | just a sec.. |
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| 01:39.10 | AcTiVaTe | sharpie1: And mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=0.0 whatevermediafileyoulike.ext ? |
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| 01:39.36 | DetroitLibertyPe | xorg.conf is basically empty in Lenny, is there something I can edit in there to keep my resolution at 1024X768 so it doesn't default back to 1600x1200 every time I boot? |
| 01:39.47 | abrotman | that's normal |
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| 01:39.59 | abrotman | if you don't like it empty, use X -configure to generate one |
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| 01:40.53 | cablguy | abrotman: I see two lines that says needs updating.. but recignizes the net. |
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| 01:41.07 | abrotman | cablguy: did you configure it in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 01:41.30 | cablguy | abrotman: no, I used the gui... |
| 01:41.39 | DetroitLibertyPe | is there a better way to save the resolution setting? I would guess its not normal to change resolution at each boot |
| 01:41.43 | sharpie1 | AcTiVaTe: i got it working with that line after running alsaconfig. |
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| 01:42.02 | AcTiVaTe | sharpie1: And just mplayer without the -ao option ? |
| 01:42.34 | sharpie1 | AcTiVaTe: works in vlc without any command line |
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| 01:43.44 | sharpie1 | AcTiVaTe: wokrs fine, thank you! |
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| 01:45.08 | cablguy | abrotman: why would it not see a hard line though? First time Ive ever run across that in any distro... |
| 01:45.10 | cablguy | weird |
| 01:45.24 | abrotman | it still has to be configured |
| 01:45.42 | cablguy | ok, so how doI configer i? |
| 01:45.45 | Ambush | hacks the gibson |
| 01:45.49 | cablguy | lol |
| 01:46.00 | abrotman | cablguy: is it dhcp? what is the device from dmesg ? |
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| 01:47.02 | Ambush | i recommend setting your password to one of the three following suggestions: secret, sex, or god |
| 01:47.07 | cablguy | eth0: RTL8101e |
| 01:47.21 | djahandarie | I like 'password' as well |
| 01:47.22 | cablguy | and yes, dhcp |
| 01:47.25 | djahandarie | Has a nice ring to it |
| 01:47.26 | Ambush | no brute force generator hits those words, as they dont think anyone would possibly use them! |
| 01:47.37 | abrotman | Ambush: do you have a Debian question? |
| 01:47.49 | Ambush | not at the moment, no |
| 01:47.51 | Ambush | thank you though? |
| 01:47.54 | abrotman | cablguy: in your /etc/network/interfaces .. is there any reference to eth0 |
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| 01:48.02 | Ambush | my debian boxen dont give me any issues |
| 01:48.02 | Ambush | heh |
| 01:48.06 | cablguy | abrotman: gimme a sec.. |
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| 01:51.37 | cablguy | abrotman: there is not eth0 in that file.. just says auto lo iface lo inet loopback |
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| 01:52.14 | abrotman | cablguy: so make two lines 'auto eth0\niface eth0 inet dhcp' |
| 01:52.15 | SuperMiguel | whats the best tool to find my HD transfer rate? |
| 01:52.32 | abrotman | obviously the \n means a line break |
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| 01:52.40 | cablguy | abrotman: ok gimem a sec.. |
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| 01:56.00 | cablguy | abrotman: ok done.. and the \ is included in the code.. right? |
| 01:56.08 | nsadmin | no |
| 01:56.12 | abrotman | no .. \n means line break |
| 01:56.14 | nsadmin | \n means line break |
| 01:56.24 | cablguy | ok,. so no \ |
| 01:56.27 | cablguy | brb ;p |
| 01:56.29 | abrotman | no, no "\" |
| 01:56.29 | nsadmin | correct |
| 01:56.47 | cablguy | ok saved. |
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| 01:57.15 | nsadmin | try ifup eth0 |
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| 01:57.29 | cablguy | on command line? |
| 01:57.32 | nsadmin | yeah |
| 01:57.35 | cablguy | k. |
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| 01:57.38 | nsadmin | sea af worky |
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| 01:58.08 | nsadmin | if it worky, then maybe it come up on boot |
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| 01:58.43 | nsadmin | (that's what auto eth0 is for) |
| 01:59.18 | cablguy | ok, says interface eth0 declared allow auto twice ifup: couldn't read interface file |
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| 02:00.56 | cablguy | so, im guessin that I need to do somethng else. |
| 02:01.10 | cablguy | err.. somethnig more |
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| 02:01.56 | abrotman | cablguy: grep -c eth0 /etc/network/interfaces .. what does that return ? |
| 02:02.49 | cablguy | abrotman: I get 1 |
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| 02:03.09 | abrotman | wtf .. how |
| 02:03.17 | abrotman | cablguy: grep eth0 /etc/network/interfaces .. what does that return ? |
| 02:03.19 | abrotman | type the lines in |
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| 02:04.05 | cablguy | it says auto eht0 iface eth0 inet dhcp |
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| 02:05.00 | abrotman | it's supposed to be two separate lines |
| 02:05.03 | abrotman | auto eth0 |
| 02:05.10 | abrotman | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
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| 02:05.29 | cablguy | abrotman: ummmmm ok, so, what I gotta do to fix it.. |
| 02:05.51 | abrotman | remove the one line you have .. type int eh two lines i just typed here |
| 02:06.48 | cablguy | abrotman: ok, got two lines now.. |
| 02:06.59 | cablguy | auto eth0 |
| 02:07.09 | cablguy | and iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 02:07.41 | abrotman | okay .. so now "/etc/init.d/networking restart" |
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| 02:10.00 | cablguy | abrotman: ummm init.d? |
| 02:10.23 | luke3321 | the dir with all the system init scripts in it |
| 02:10.31 | hakr | cd /etc/init.d |
| 02:10.33 | hakr | then |
| 02:10.34 | abrotman | cablguy: uhm .. type it |
| 02:10.35 | nsadmin | cablguy: yes, spelling is correct. spaces are critical |
| 02:10.36 | abrotman | no |
| 02:10.38 | hakr | ./networking restart |
| 02:10.41 | abrotman | just use the command i gave you |
| 02:10.43 | hakr | either way works |
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| 02:12.39 | cablguy | ok, in DHCP discover.. |
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| 02:13.06 | cablguy | ok done |
| 02:13.18 | nsadmin | cablguy: good, so it worked... |
| 02:13.42 | Ezep | How do I know which device alsa use? For example: hw:0,0 |
| 02:13.42 | cablguy | I assume.. I'm not on a hard line w the laptop.. I will have to test it on this line.. |
| 02:13.42 | nsadmin | can that box ping yahoo.com? |
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| 02:14.09 | nsadmin | Ezep: cat /proc/asound/cards |
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| 02:14.14 | nsadmin | take a look at that |
| 02:14.15 | cablguy | so, brb |
| 02:14.15 | Holle_ | new debian installation, but i can't mount my fat32 stick: you must specify the filesystem type |
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| 02:14.41 | Tordek | heya |
| 02:14.58 | Ezep | nsadmin: thanks for you attention, no.. only a memory allocation |
| 02:15.02 | Ezep | And the IRQ |
| 02:15.07 | AcTiVaTe | Ezep: Check aplay -L and -l for devices and cards respectively |
| 02:15.08 | Holle_ | "mount /dev/sda /mnt/usb" doesn't work |
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| 02:15.24 | Tordek | random question: why would I want to build a custom kernel? |
| 02:15.49 | luke3321 | Tordek: The fun of it of course! |
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| 02:15.56 | luke3321 | AKA I have no idea |
| 02:16.13 | nsadmin | Ezep: you mentioned hw:0,0 and by that you may have meant hw:irq,port but that;s a misinterpretation |
| 02:16.22 | nsadmin | irq and port are handled by the driver |
| 02:16.27 | Tordek | well, yeah, I had my share of kernel-building fun on Slack |
| 02:16.39 | Ezep | AcTiVaTe: card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD198x Analog [AD198x Analog] \ Subdevices: 0/1 \ Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 |
| 02:16.57 | Ezep | I think it's hw:0,0, isn't it? |
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| 02:17.10 | Tordek | but, aside of that... speed? memory? anything of interest other than the kernel image size? |
| 02:17.10 | Ezep | nsadmin: oh, that's the 'syntax'? |
| 02:17.13 | nsadmin | well that's hw:0 |
| 02:17.19 | nsadmin | i.e., card 0 |
| 02:17.38 | nsadmin | the ,0 refers to a subdevice of that |
| 02:17.39 | Ezep | I see, and the other umber is the subdevice? |
| 02:17.47 | nsadmin | yes |
| 02:17.56 | Ezep | Cool :), thanks for your help! |
| 02:18.26 | nsadmin | now how you enumerate the subdevices, I think you could try aplay -L |
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| 02:19.54 | Ezep | Yes, a lot of information |
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| 02:22.15 | Holle_ | abrotman: now i have a fresh netinst debian installed and connected to the internet. what shoul i do first to install the qc driver? |
| 02:22.43 | abrotman | Holle_: do you have a sane sources.list ? |
| 02:22.54 | abrotman | do they include contrib/non-free ? |
| 02:22.59 | luke3321 | Tordek: I'm not really sure, I think it may allow for extra support and such you can build in and such. Maybe slightly faster since it is built for the CPU it will run on (that one is a guess. |
| 02:23.26 | abrotman | Tordek: unless you have a good reason, you don't |
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| 02:23.42 | luke3321 | And there is our answer |
| 02:23.55 | markybob | 42! |
| 02:24.03 | izua | 42 ftw. |
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| 02:24.10 | luke3321 | haha |
| 02:24.22 | willmore | Is there a standard tool/methodology for editing xorg.conf in debian? |
| 02:24.34 | izua | i have a box with grub, so other people can use it in windows and i can use it in linux. grub boots by default in windows |
| 02:25.05 | abrotman | !xorg config |
| 02:25.05 | dpkg | From Lenny onwards, xorg mostly configures itself. Things like resolution are configured by your desktop environment or <xrandr>. As a result, the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is usually no longer needed and is often mostly blank but you can feed xorg settings using it still. Use "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to set your keyboard layout and use "X -configure" as a template for your handwritten xorg.conf. |
| 02:25.06 | izua | this is the family computer, so i have to move to it to power it up and select grub, then move back, ssh into it and transfer a file, then move back to it and print the file (most common case) |
| 02:25.27 | izua | i need a way to select linux remotely in grub. i can power the box remotely with wol/magic packets |
| 02:25.54 | Holle_ | abrotmann: http://haskell.pastebin.com/m47680693 |
| 02:26.02 | Holle_ | i changed nothing. |
| 02:26.13 | izua | (moving is like 6 rooms, and i'm getting lazy of doing this routine just to print something) |
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| 02:26.17 | willmore | abrotman, thanks. That narrows the question down to 'what resolution setting program does gnome on debian use?' |
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| 02:27.35 | nsadmin | Holle_: you're in us? |
| 02:27.37 | abrotman | willmore: it has a Resolution applet |
| 02:27.58 | Holle_ | nsadmin: what do you mean? |
| 02:28.09 | nsadmin | what country |
| 02:28.09 | abrotman | nsadmin: he's german |
| 02:28.15 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 02:28.23 | nsadmin | are you in germany? |
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| 02:28.28 | Holle_ | yes |
| 02:28.28 | willmore | abrotman, aparently, I didn't install gnome and friends by the traditional means, so I'm not finding the normal resolution setting applet in the menus. I must be missing some package. |
| 02:28.34 | nsadmin | ok, add this line |
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| 02:28.43 | abrotman | willmore: aptitude install gnome xorg |
| 02:28.48 | cablguy | ok, im good guys.. |
| 02:28.52 | cablguy | now, I need to know how to use apt-get to install on Debian.. |
| 02:28.53 | abrotman | nsadmin: he needs security sources too |
| 02:29.00 | abrotman | !tell cablguy about grounding |
| 02:29.01 | cablguy | I'm used to it cause I've used it in Ubuntu and Mint.. but, if I do an apt-get install on the command line, nothing comes up. :| |
| 02:29.02 | abrotman | !tell cablguy about refcard |
| 02:29.07 | nsadmin | deb http://http.de.debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free |
| 02:29.16 | willmore | abrotman :) I wonder what that adds that I left out. One sec and I'll ask aptitude to figure it out for me. :) Thanks for the help. |
| 02:29.30 | nsadmin | abrotman: he could just uncomment the existing line, yes? |
| 02:29.40 | abrotman | he could .. i'm skeptical though |
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| 02:29.53 | nsadmin | of? |
| 02:29.57 | markybob | ubuntu |
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| 02:30.05 | cablguy | I'm good.. |
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| 02:30.17 | cablguy | just need to know why apt-get install aint workin. |
| 02:30.19 | nsadmin | markybob: thank you for sharing :P |
| 02:30.26 | nsadmin | ;) |
| 02:30.41 | abrotman | cablguy: please use aptitude, not apt-get |
| 02:30.46 | Holle_ | now it looks like this: http://haskell.pastebin.com/m40eb7ae1 |
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| 02:30.52 | cablguy | aahhhhhhHHHHHHhhhhhh |
| 02:30.58 | cablguy | I guess that would help huh.. |
| 02:30.59 | cablguy | :p |
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| 02:31.06 | markybob | abrotman, know when aptitude will get super cow powers? |
| 02:31.12 | markybob | still uses apt-get |
| 02:31.20 | LittleDedPenguin | what is wrong with using apt-get? |
| 02:31.20 | abrotman | markybob: aptitude -vvvvv moo :) |
| 02:31.24 | cablguy | lol |
| 02:31.27 | abrotman | !why aptitude |
| 02:31.27 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available, and will automatically uninstall unneeded dependencies, read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for more info. Aptitude can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
| 02:31.31 | cablguy | and here we go... |
| 02:31.59 | nsadmin | add " contrib non-free" to the end of lines 3 and 4, and comment line 1 |
| 02:31.59 | Holle_ | abrotman: http://haskell.pastebin.com/m7b9cbce3 |
| 02:32.03 | cablguy | ok.. so, either works so, why am I not able to get packages?? |
| 02:32.22 | cablguy | already did an apt-get update |
| 02:32.23 | Holle_ | nsadmin: http://haskell.pastebin.com/m5baf0e5c |
| 02:32.54 | nsadmin | Holle_: good, aptitude update |
| 02:33.01 | nsadmin | errors? |
| 02:33.13 | abrotman | cablguy: put your /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin |
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| 02:33.49 | cablguy | I'll have to boot up the lappy.... |
| 02:33.51 | cablguy | brb |
| 02:34.06 | willmore | Arggggg. How can 'gnome' depend on 'arj'? What kind of bizarre dependencies are in here? |
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| 02:34.33 | nsadmin | by depending on something that needs arj |
| 02:34.38 | abrotman | willmore: what's wrong with that ? |
| 02:34.57 | markybob | people cry about world hunger and war...i cry about php 5.3 from experimental not building on squeeze :( |
| 02:35.02 | willmore | arj? What does a desktop environment need some outdated compression/archiver tool? |
| 02:35.11 | abrotman | willmore: probably the gnome archive tool |
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| 02:35.16 | Holle_ | nsadmin: could not resolve "http.de.debian.org" |
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| 02:35.31 | nsadmin | ok, change that to ftp.de.debian.org |
| 02:35.32 | Holle_ | oh i see ^^ |
| 02:35.33 | willmore | Hmmm... "Kitchen sink". :) |
| 02:36.01 | nsadmin | then rerun aptitude update |
| 02:36.07 | nsadmin | errors? |
| 02:36.11 | abrotman | willmore: also .. you can try to use -R |
| 02:36.30 | willmore | abrotman, -R in what context? |
| 02:36.36 | abrotman | man aptitude ? |
| 02:36.56 | willmore | :) |
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| 02:37.15 | Holle_ | nsadmin: how does vim work? |
| 02:37.18 | cablguy | ok abrotman I got an empty apt/sources file.. :p |
| 02:37.27 | Holle_ | how could i edit a file and save it? |
| 02:37.29 | abrotman | i doubt it's empty |
| 02:37.34 | abrotman | cablguy: where do you live? |
| 02:37.37 | markybob | ...ok. |
| 02:37.45 | nsadmin | you could use vim or nano or anything else you like |
| 02:37.53 | cablguy | abrotman: NC |
| 02:37.59 | abrotman | No Clue ... |
| 02:38.05 | willmore | abrotman, Nope, I think I have that set in the preferences. It says 'arj' is a *dependency*, not just a recommendation. :) |
| 02:38.08 | markybob | i choose notepad |
| 02:38.13 | abrotman | willmore: bummer .. okay |
| 02:38.20 | nsadmin | nano is probably better as a more "leading" editor, it shows you more how to use it while you're using it |
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| 02:38.24 | willmore | NP, the HD is plenty big. |
| 02:38.31 | abrotman | wonders why www.d.o is so slow ? |
| 02:38.35 | brbrbr | btw, why debian install "recommended" by default, too ? |
| 02:38.49 | willmore | abrotman, probably me downloading gnome and xorg. :P |
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| 02:39.08 | markybob | willmore, no. master ftp is at osuosl |
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| 02:39.26 | abrotman | cablguy: you'll bve adding two lines |
| 02:39.29 | markybob | willmore, that's some serious pipe...300MB/s |
| 02:39.32 | willmore | markybob, *joke* |
| 02:39.38 | cablguy | abrotman: okey... |
| 02:39.46 | abrotman | cablguy: deb http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/debian/ lenny main |
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| 02:40.09 | abrotman | cablguy: deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main |
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| 02:40.25 | cablguy | ok, lemme go add those.. brb |
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| 02:40.36 | nsadmin | Holle_: bbi 20 mins |
| 02:41.13 | Holle_ | somthing i could do during the time? |
| 02:41.22 | cablguy | abrotman: and real quick... it's gedit /etc/apt/sources right? |
| 02:41.36 | nsadmin | Holle_ depends... did you get errors this time? |
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| 02:41.47 | Holle_ | update was ok |
| 02:41.54 | abrotman | cablguy: uhm .. whatever editor you want |
| 02:42.01 | cablguy | ok, brb |
| 02:42.19 | nsadmin | alright... abrotman has your next step.... as far as installing packages you're all set |
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| 02:42.41 | nsadmin | (other than sources, but that's not relevent now) |
| 02:43.00 | markybob | cablguy, sources.list ....not sources |
| 02:43.02 | abrotman | what did i do ? |
| 02:43.24 | konr | how many gigabytes do I need to make an amd64 debian mirror? |
| 02:43.44 | nsadmin | abrotman: inst. m-a, etc |
| 02:43.59 | Holle_ | abrotman: waht packages should i install after the update? 156 MB available |
| 02:44.02 | abrotman | why is it always my fault ? |
| 02:44.06 | abrotman | Holle_: to do what? |
| 02:44.07 | markybob | konr, www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror |
| 02:44.15 | abrotman | konr: a lot .. what's this for ? |
| 02:44.39 | konr | abrotman: just for me and my friends |
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| 02:44.41 | Holle_ | abrotman: to ge my webcam running... :) |
| 02:45.09 | abrotman | konr: /msg dpkg apt-proxy |
| 02:45.31 | abrotman | Holle_: apt-cache search webcam stream |
| 02:45.33 | Holle_ | abrotman: i need the driver, so i need something to compile the driver. |
| 02:46.05 | abrotman | !quickcam |
| 02:46.05 | dpkg | QuickCam is a brand of web camera manufactured by Logitech. UVC and non-UVC device lists: http://quickcamteam.net/devices . To install the driver for old-model QuickCam Express/Web: "aptitude install module-assistant qc-usb-utils && m-a a-i qc-usb && modprobe quickcam". Later models are supported by either the GSPCA or USB Video Class drivers, ask me about <gspca> or <uvcvideo> respectively. See also <webcam>. |
| 02:46.13 | abrotman | the command is in the quotes |
| 02:47.12 | Holle_ | abrotman: m-a: command not found - what do i need? |
| 02:47.22 | abrotman | you're not reading the whole thing |
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| 02:47.28 | markybob | aptitude install module-assistant |
| 02:47.29 | markybob | it says |
| 02:47.34 | abrotman | aptitude install module-assistant qc-usb-utils |
| 02:47.44 | Holle_ | ah ok, sorry :) |
| 02:47.48 | abrotman | IN QUOTES |
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| 02:48.53 | bowens | Is there a reason why a file system (ext3 in this case) will not use all available block space? I have a formatted 1tb partition, it says I have 961k blocks but at 905k says that it's 100% full |
| 02:49.11 | bowens | I also ran fsck in case it needed it but it came out clean |
| 02:49.14 | markybob | because 5% is reserved |
| 02:49.15 | abrotman | bowens: df -i ? |
| 02:50.30 | bowens | abrotman: it says inode used: 68062, ifree 60986914, iuse 1% |
| 02:51.07 | bowens | markybob: well the end result is the macos formatted disk gets 70gb more than the ext3 one, did I set the cluster size too high? |
| 02:51.38 | abrotman | bowens: you can tune the reserved space |
| 02:52.16 | bowens | abrotman: what is it being reserved for, journal file? |
| 02:52.25 | abrotman | root |
| 02:52.47 | markybob | bowens, man tune2fs |
| 02:52.49 | bowens | abrotman: well this disk is just for raw data (ie files) storage, root won't have any particular need |
| 02:53.15 | abrotman | bowens: you can tune the reserved space |
| 02:53.22 | bowens | abrotman: thanks :) |
| 02:53.25 | bowens | thanks markybob |
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| 02:54.10 | deface | anyone know where i can get a perl listing for debian? |
| 02:54.12 | deface | Net::Ident == ? |
| 02:54.21 | deface | apt-cache is ass for searching |
| 02:54.39 | gravity | libnet-ident-perl |
| 02:54.41 | abrotman | or you did it wrong |
| 02:54.46 | abrotman | apt-cache search perl ident net |
| 02:54.59 | deface | some are failing via cpan, so i'd like to try the 'debian' route |
| 02:55.07 | deface | abrotman: never |
| 02:55.10 | gravity | From that example you should be able to figure out the naming convention |
| 02:55.23 | markybob | gravity, dont be logical |
| 02:56.19 | nsadmin | is the naming convention held at the newport beach hilton? |
| 02:56.36 | markybob | newport beach...virginia's for lovers! |
| 02:56.44 | deface | IP::Country::Fast ... |
| 02:56.52 | markybob | lived in virginia beach |
| 02:56.53 | deface | doesnt match the naming convention |
| 02:56.59 | cablguy | markybob: yea, thanks for that.. found that out.. :p |
| 02:57.07 | cablguy | is there no package for firefox in Debian?? |
| 02:57.12 | markybob | !iceweasel |
| 02:57.13 | dpkg | Iceweasel is a DFSG-free fork of Firefox, which replaces it in Debian as of Etch. It is not GNU's Firefox fork (now known as <IceCat>). Ask me about <why iceweasel> and <iceweasel user-agent>. Use gnome-default-applications-properties to change settings such as the mail reader. No longer supported in Etch, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2009/msg00063.html and ask me about <d-s-a>. http://wiki.debian.org/Iceweasel |
| 02:57.13 | abrotman | cablguy: iceweasel |
| 02:57.14 | nsadmin | nope |
| 02:57.14 | nsadmin | it' |
| 02:57.20 | nsadmin | s iceweasel |
| 02:57.37 | markybob | cablguy, or else the terrorists win |
| 02:57.49 | nsadmin | my typing sux tonite |
| 02:57.56 | flourish3 | hi, a question about cups. How can i limit the access permission to certain ip address |
| 02:58.08 | cablguy | markybob: LMAO....... |
| 02:58.25 | markybob | flourish3, you should probably use iptables. if you need to block cups, you should probably block it all |
| 02:58.25 | cablguy | ok, how do I get adblocker plus installed? |
| 02:58.48 | markybob | cablguy, install iceweasel, then do the add-on search within iceweasel |
| 02:59.12 | markybob | cablguy, or mozilla-firefox-adblock |
| 02:59.14 | cablguy | markybob: think I tried that but, I'll try it again later.. |
| 02:59.28 | markybob | cablguy, or adblock-plus. *shrug* i use chromium |
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| 03:01.14 | cablguy | ok, I think I'm good for tonight guys.. thanks for the help.. |
| 03:01.15 | cablguy | 0/ |
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| 03:07.14 | flourish3 | markybob: i don't know howto use iptables yet :-( so i cannot quick solve the problem. i thought the cupsd must have something to do with this, but it seems deny / allow doesn't work |
| 03:07.35 | LittleDedPenguin | something in KDM seems to making my mouse pointers disappear, mouse still works, but no pointer, doesn't happen on initial login, but when i use kdm to start another session, most the time, the pointer disappears ... any clue how i can make it visible again? |
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| 03:08.55 | Holle_ | nsadmin + abrotman: IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:09.01 | LittleDedPenguin | i've gone as far as shutting down and restarting x to no avail, the only thing that brings it back so far is a reboot |
| 03:09.33 | LittleDedPenguin | and i hoped that the upgrade to squeeze would fix that |
| 03:09.43 | nsadmin | Holle_: wazzat? couldn't hear ya... |
| 03:09.51 | LittleDedPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:10.08 | Holle_ | YOU ARE THE GREATES =D |
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| 03:10.48 | nsadmin | Holle_: thanks... but I noticed abrotman was getting you to a specific point... all I did was get your aptitude working right |
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| 03:11.34 | Holle_ | YOU = abrotman + nsadmin :) |
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| 03:12.55 | Holle_ | do i always have to type "modprobe quickcam" at startup? is there something like "autostart"? |
| 03:13.38 | nsadmin | run modconf, poke around to find quickcam, hit enter, install, back out, exit |
| 03:14.27 | nsadmin | oh, you'll actually have to uninsert it first |
| 03:15.07 | nsadmin | modprobe -r quickcan |
| 03:15.10 | nsadmin | cam |
| 03:15.36 | nsadmin | quickcan is my usb toilet |
| 03:18.00 | Holle_ | and how could i start palantir automatically? |
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| 03:21.22 | nsadmin | no idea. what's that? |
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| 03:23.37 | Holle_ | i just wan't to run a command at startup. |
| 03:23.56 | Holle_ | ./palantir -r 30 |
| 03:24.31 | nevyn | Holle_: when? |
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| 03:25.28 | Holle_ | i would like to push the power button -> the pc boots and starts automatically the webcam software |
| 03:25.37 | nevyn | yeah... |
| 03:25.41 | nevyn | WHEN? |
| 03:26.09 | nevyn | before the disks are mounted (probably not) after networking is initialised but before the webserver starts WHEN? |
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| 03:27.55 | Holle_ | now: power button -> login -> command to start webcam server |
| 03:28.04 | Holle_ | this should work automatically. |
| 03:28.07 | nevyn | ok. |
| 03:28.24 | nevyn | when do you want it to run? |
| 03:28.42 | nevyn | what does it need to work? |
| 03:29.01 | lkthomas | anyone use dovecot ? I can't get rawlog running! |
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| 03:29.57 | Holle_ | now it is the first command after loggin on i'm typing |
| 03:30.00 | jmarsden | nevyn: As long as it runs before Holle_ logs in, he'll be happy, I would think. So /etc/rc.local should be fine. |
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| 03:31.18 | nevyn | Holle_: so the right way to do this is wrap it in a sysvinit script but you can just put the command in /etc/rc.local |
| 03:31.39 | Holle_ | thanks |
| 03:31.45 | nevyn | jmarsden: cron @startup would work and might be better. |
| 03:32.24 | linuxjones317 | what does (total events = number ) mean at the end of a line in dmesg? |
| 03:32.29 | jmarsden | nevyn: Sure. So help him do it, either way, rather than asking for exact timing details :) |
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| 03:33.15 | nevyn | Holle_: run crontab -e and put @reboot /home/holle/palantir -r 30 |
| 03:33.47 | linuxjones317 | does that means its happened that many times? or is it related to the message itself? |
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| 03:36.39 | konr | I'm not "authorized to run the x server". Which group should my users be part of to do that? |
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| 03:40.26 | jmarsden | konr: I don't think that is about groups... man xauth |
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| 03:48.32 | bcolenj | i need to change the disk /var is on without shutting down the system, how should i go about this process |
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| 03:50.50 | lhx | SUP |
| 03:52.01 | simonrvn | bcolenj: shutdown anything using /var and start moving stuff (with a few steps in between, like mounting the new /var somewhere) |
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| 03:52.24 | bcolenj | everything is using the log files |
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| 04:10.16 | konr | It seems that there is no xorg.conf file. How can I set my video driver? |
| 04:10.56 | markybob | you should probably install xorg. pretty sure that file is created by default :P |
| 04:10.59 | nevyn | konr: where did you look? |
| 04:11.21 | konr | nevyn: /etc/X11/ |
| 04:12.13 | nevyn | ok it should be there.. but it isn't supposed to be nessicary anymore.. sigh. |
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| 04:13.30 | simonrvn | necessary |
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| 04:28.57 | daemon | hey all I just installed debian lenny |
| 04:29.00 | daemon | and cpan does not work? |
| 04:29.09 | daemon | have not mofieid the config in any special ways |
| 04:29.20 | daemon | Warning: No success on command[/usr/bin/perl Build.PL ] |
| 04:29.24 | daemon | for everything I try to install |
| 04:29.36 | simonrvn | !dh-make-perl |
| 04:29.36 | dpkg | hmm... dh-make-perl is a packaged script that converts Perl modules snagged from CPAN into .deb archives. You get to use CPAN archives, Debian's dependencies stay in one piece, everybody's happy. |
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| 04:30.05 | McL0VIN | hello, anyone here got GNS3 0.6.1 working under Debian? |
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| 04:30.44 | daemon | ah ha |
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| 04:30.45 | daemon | thanks |
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| 04:36.12 | racecar56 | I just looked at the goals for debian squeeze (latest news) and i see 'Large File Support'. WHAT? |
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| 04:37.03 | McL0VIN | `wget http://gpl.code.de/DB898410.key.pub.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add -` <----- what is wrong with this? |
| 04:37.34 | simonrvn | noithing |
| 04:37.40 | simonrvn | no* |
| 04:38.05 | McL0VIN | simonrvn: ^^ Cannot write to `-' (Broken pipe). |
| 04:39.01 | McL0VIN | got it ...i was root |
| 04:39.03 | McL0VIN | ;) |
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| 04:44.35 | McL0VIN | how to i setup a vnc on my box so that i can access it from windows |
| 04:44.51 | markybob | McL0VIN, on gnome? install vino |
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| 04:46.48 | McL0VIN | markybob: is that the server side of the client ! |
| 04:47.10 | markybob | McL0VIN, yes |
| 04:47.20 | markybob | McL0VIN, server :P |
| 04:47.37 | Bhavic | Does anyone know if Software RAID 0 actually increases writing/reading speed at all. |
| 04:47.51 | McL0VIN | and i will be able to use tightvnc in windows to veiw it right! |
| 04:47.53 | markybob | Bhavic, no. |
| 04:48.08 | markybob | McL0VIN, yes. or realvnc, or ultravnc, or any other client |
| 04:48.10 | Bhavic | ahk |
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| 04:49.06 | konr | How can I exit Xorg, now that Ctrl-Alt-Backspace is gone? |
| 04:49.07 | McL0VIN | markybob: V.I.N.O --- V.I.N.O and VINO was his nameooo :) |
| 04:50.05 | gravity | konr: Use setxkbmap -option terminate:ctrl_alt_bkspc to enable that again for the session. then kill away |
| 04:50.21 | McL0VIN | markybob: now how do i run it |
| 04:50.41 | konr | gravity: interesting... can I set it permanently? |
| 04:50.54 | markybob | McL0VIN, once you set the preference in system->preferences->remote desktop, it'll start automatically |
| 04:51.17 | gravity | konr: Yeah, using XkbOptions in xorg.conf. google for the exact syntax, since I don't have it offhand |
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| 04:51.30 | gravity | konr: Alternately, just run that in your ~/.xsession along with whatever else |
| 04:52.07 | McL0VIN | markybob: i was trying to avoid this...am too lazy to walk to next room ...is there is a way i can set it up from cli :) |
| 04:52.47 | markybob | McL0VIN, yes. easily? no. |
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| 04:59.15 | McL0VIN | markybob: thank you man |
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| 05:30.56 | agike | Hi, lenny only allows 640x480 resolution. How do I allow 1024x768 ? |
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| 05:34.15 | EmleyMoor | agike: What graphics card are you using? |
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| 05:46.27 | chris_goe | hi here. |
| 05:46.50 | chris_goe | anybody knows why mdadm now conflicts with dmsetup lvm2 udev? |
| 05:47.19 | chris_goe | well, it does not say Conflicts:, but it wants to remove them when I try to install them (on sid) |
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| 05:48.29 | filePeter | Donât ask to ask! |
| 05:48.58 | EmleyMoor | filePeter: Who asked to ask? |
| 05:49.39 | filePeter | EmleyMoor: Sorry, showed my friend here how irssi shortcuts work... wrong channel... =) |
| 05:49.48 | EmleyMoor | Ah, right |
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| 05:49.56 | filePeter | :-/ |
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| 05:51.56 | agike | EmleyMoor: VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 630/730 PCI/AGP VGA Display Adapter (rev 31) |
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| 05:52.52 | zeroConf | anyone know what NOP NOP SackOK means ? |
| 05:53.31 | EmleyMoor | agike: Not used one of those for X - normally, provided your card and monitor can agree it's possible and you are using the right driver, it should be possible to use that resolution |
| 05:53.48 | EmleyMoor | zeroConf: When and where do you see that? |
| 05:54.30 | zeroConf | in an email i got about a server that a friend of mine has, he got hacked and i am trying to find out as much as i can about the hack before the server comes back online.... |
| 05:54.46 | zeroConf | so i can try and clean it up as much as possible... |
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| 05:58.30 | gaintsura | anyone have any idea how to enable my fn/special keys without the kernel going awol after awhile? |
| 05:58.57 | gaintsura | Toshiba Satellite A215 |
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| 05:59.55 | jof | I'm trying to branch out with fonts on my desktop |
| 06:00.01 | jof | and installed some font packages |
| 06:00.45 | jof | but I can't figure out how to format the name of the newly-installed font in my .xresources file |
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| 06:01.36 | SerajewelKS | i don't suppose anyone knows of an open-source alternative to radiotime's redbutton? |
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| 06:02.06 | gaintsura | describe what it is a bit more? |
| 06:02.34 | EmleyMoor | jof: Were these "font packages" in Debian? |
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| 06:04.10 | konr | should I select my virtual server running xen or openvz? |
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| 06:06.20 | jof | EmleyMoor: yes |
| 06:06.32 | adfasdf | is there a front-end to selinux yet? |
| 06:06.35 | jof | ttf-alee |
| 06:06.57 | EmleyMoor | jof: I wouldn't have thought any action like that was needed... |
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| 06:07.31 | EmleyMoor | If it is, the package may well have installed some docs |
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| 06:08.11 | jof | I'm just wondering if I should put "aterm*font: bandal" or "aterm*font: Bandal" or "aterm*font: *-bandal", etc. |
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| 06:10.12 | zeroConf | how do i disable root from being allowed to login via ssh ? |
| 06:11.11 | zeroConf | found it |
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| 06:11.18 | zeroConf | it is in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
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| 06:12.01 | konr | Hmm, there is no way of measuring it, but do you think that a VPS might be slower than an AMD2000 by a factor bigger than 2x less? |
| 06:12.19 | nevyn | VPS? |
| 06:12.44 | konr | Virtual Private Server |
| 06:13.13 | jmarsden | konr: If there are many other VPSes on the same physical machine, your VPS can be any factor you like slower, so yes :) |
| 06:13.57 | zeroConf | ?vps |
| 06:14.00 | zeroConf | vps? |
| 06:14.07 | zeroConf | hmmmm - it wasnt a script.... intresting |
| 06:14.13 | konr | jmarsden: haha, the interesting thing is that few VPSes are cheaper than ServerPronto's $30 dedicated server |
| 06:14.17 | zeroConf | sweet typing konr |
| 06:15.12 | jmarsden | konr: I think the smallest Linode slice is $20/mo ... it's up to you what you choose. |
| 06:16.49 | tabris|away | iirc i've done serverpronto. |
| 06:16.53 | tabris|away | they're fast about getting you the server |
| 06:16.56 | tabris|away | slow about fixing stuff |
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| 06:17.30 | zeroConf | tabris - if you run a good server, it shouldnt need fixing from anyone except you .... |
| 06:17.44 | tabris|away | unless of course something happens like the hardware crashes. |
| 06:17.53 | tabris|away | and it can take 24+ hours to respond to a ticket. |
| 06:18.30 | zeroConf | yea ill give you that..... |
| 06:18.36 | konr | I have a dedicated server on gigahosting, from Germany |
| 06:18.43 | zeroConf | but for 20 dollars a month, you cant complain much... |
| 06:18.50 | konr | It's funny how those guys are serious, compared to other places |
| 06:19.20 | zeroConf | seven dollars a month.... FARK MAN |
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| 06:19.33 | konr | In a previous company, from the US, the payment reminder was something like "Please make the payment etc etc" |
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| 06:19.55 | konr | In the german one it was "Notice: you have 7 days left until disconnection" |
| 06:21.21 | zeroConf | much more sensible.... |
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| 06:30.34 | joeyjones | lol |
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| 06:30.39 | joeyjones | i like vps4less.de |
| 06:31.44 | flourish3 | hello, question about su. As i know, when setup a password for root, every user on the system can su to root. But howto customize that only users belong to certain group have permission to "su' |
| 06:32.06 | joeyjones | flourish3: afaik that can;t be done |
| 06:32.21 | joeyjones | and there's really no reason to either |
| 06:33.26 | flourish3 | joeyjones: can't? hum, is there such restriction to sudo ? |
| 06:33.33 | joeyjones | yes |
| 06:33.47 | joeyjones | su is just switchuser, so there's no reason to restrict it |
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| 06:33.55 | flourish3 | then howto do this |
| 06:34.03 | minsa | there's a full 4.5 to 5 seconds delay between DNS reply and http request on my system.. what is the best way to debug it.. ping works fine.. very responsive.. |
| 06:34.51 | minsa | it is the same for both custom kernel and stock kernel |
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| 06:35.23 | minsa | can't find the bottle neck |
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| 06:35.47 | gaintsura | minsa: I dont think its you |
| 06:35.51 | gaintsura | I think its comcast |
| 06:36.00 | gaintsura | same problem here, Colorado, with comcast |
| 06:36.03 | minsa | seriously ? |
| 06:36.10 | nsadmin | I thought http requests were made before dns to look up the hostname |
| 06:36.17 | minsa | on windows, it's fine though |
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| 06:36.31 | gaintsura | just checked my mail, took 5+ seconds to lookup my mail server, which is 5 feet from me |
| 06:36.50 | joeyjones | it could just be the dns server lagging |
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| 06:37.04 | gaintsura | thats what I was talking about |
| 06:37.09 | gaintsura | its not a problem with him |
| 06:37.21 | minsa | dns response is fine.. |
| 06:37.22 | nsadmin | probably your mail server doesn't have a host name and the dns is bogging down looking for something that's not going to exist |
| 06:37.29 | gaintsura | it does |
| 06:37.37 | joeyjones | or comcast could purposefully lag *nix |
| 06:37.41 | minsa | it's about 30 miliseconds.. as it shows on wireshark |
| 06:37.47 | nsadmin | it's fine for me |
| 06:38.28 | minsa | it's a 4-5 seconds before initiating.. the TCP connection for http |
| 06:39.17 | minsa | so I am guessing either it's information is slowly getting to the browser or the browser is slow initiating connection.. |
| 06:39.48 | minsa | but I am comparing with the responsiveness of the ping and the browser.. |
| 06:40.19 | minsa | but and I am looking at time stamp on the wireshark |
| 06:40.45 | dutchfish | what would be the right channel to address debian-kernel-related questions? |
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| 06:42.54 | jelly | dutchfish: #debian-kernel, irc.d.o? |
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| 06:43.06 | jelly | or here if you're lucky enough? |
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| 06:44.14 | dutchfish | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:49.29 | triplc | hi all |
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| 06:49.41 | triplc | how to get KDE4 for lenny? |
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| 06:53.56 | rafuch0 | what cut be happening here i want to log in into my friends laptop using ssh his ip is on the same range that mine boht are using the same nat server to go outside he can make ping to my laptop but i cant make ping to his iptables show all accept what cut be happening ? |
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| 06:58.25 | dutchfish | rafuch0, if you are on the same lan, maybe route tables are not setup properly |
| 06:58.34 | cantido | rafuch0: have you looked at your routes, used tcpdump to see what is happening on both ends |
| 06:58.50 | rafuch0 | ok |
| 06:59.16 | rafuch0 | but if i make in his laptop |
| 06:59.20 | rafuch0 | iptables -F |
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| 06:59.30 | rafuch0 | all the rules are gone |
| 06:59.50 | rafuch0 | and by default is accept all right ? |
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| 07:00.41 | rafuch0 | cantido: |
| 07:01.49 | dutchfish | rafuch0, maybe he has also disabled ping replies? |
| 07:02.15 | rafuch0 | icmp ? |
| 07:02.19 | dutchfish | yes |
| 07:02.28 | rafuch0 | no his rules are all accept |
| 07:02.47 | dutchfish | rafuch0, and you cant ping him? |
| 07:02.53 | rafuch0 | nop |
| 07:03.06 | cantido | rafuch0: if packets are being dumped you should have messages in dmesg saying that |
| 07:03.10 | dutchfish | rafuch0, are the default gateway setups correct? |
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| 07:06.13 | rafuch0 | dutchfish: yes we both can go outside from the same gateway and we both have internet connection enable :D |
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| 07:06.37 | cantido | ponders tcpdump..... |
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| 07:08.13 | cantido | rafuch0: if it's an iptables issue you will see messages from iptables in dmesg telling you what is going on, if you are sure your routes etc are correct use tcpdump to see the packets going out and what is coming back if anything |
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| 07:09.33 | rafuch0 | yes i know i must be iptables welll i will figure out latter thanks for all the comments mates >D |
| 07:11.32 | cantido | if you flushed all the rules.. :/ |
| 07:13.56 | minsa | gaintsura, it is indeed comcast |
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| 07:27.33 | hatter_au | how do i disconnect a user that shows up in 'who' that was left logged in as a console user ? |
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| 07:28.25 | cantido | kill their shell |
| 07:28.36 | cantido | maybe there's some properr way of doing it though |
| 07:28.55 | ewook | I thought that was the propper way :P |
| 07:29.41 | cantido | killall can kill all processes belonging to a user too.. s |
| 07:29.44 | konr | I started installing debian 16h ago |
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| 07:30.06 | konr | handled networking problems |
| 07:30.11 | konr | configured my xmonad |
| 07:30.18 | konr | installed clojure |
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| 07:30.29 | konr | but now it's too late to sleep :( |
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| 07:30.34 | cantido | ewook:That was just for safety, you say something like that an people start ripping your head off for not using the correct method ;) |
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| 07:31.23 | cantido | konr: were you install over serial at 9600 baud?! |
| 07:31.31 | ewook | true, but I haven't heard anyone telling us it's the wrong way yet :p |
| 07:32.59 | konr | cantido: theorically over a 12mbps link |
| 07:34.26 | cantido | I think the only time I spent more then 5 hours installing something was install win95 from floppies on a pc emulator on an amiga, but that was for fun |
| 07:35.15 | jelly | cantido: if you count in configuring stuff so it works the way you want it, _any_ Debian installation takes more than 5 hours |
| 07:35.27 | Evet | is SysCP ok? |
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| 07:36.50 | g0rd0n | Evet: i prefer virtualmin, but probably syscp is more user-friendly |
| 07:37.06 | cantido | jelly: really? maybe really fiddly stuff, but I haven't had major hardware problems recently :/ |
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| 07:37.37 | Evet | g0rd0n, for your customers? |
| 07:37.46 | jelly | cantido: selective memory is a gift given to many |
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| 07:38.07 | g0rd0n | Evet: yes... virtualmin is really powerful and i really like it, but for some users it might be over-complicated |
| 07:38.30 | g0rd0n | just try them both :P |
| 07:38.32 | cantido | the only thing that didn't work on this machine out of the box was the keyboard.. and that's because Apple didnn't id it properly or something |
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| 07:38.51 | cantido | g0rd0n: you actually like syscp? |
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| 07:39.19 | g0rd0n | cantido: not really :P why? |
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| 07:39.21 | Evet | g0rd0n, i couldnt run virtualmin. only webmin works on my lenny vps |
| 07:39.38 | g0rd0n | uh... im running virtualmin fine on lenny |
| 07:40.03 | g0rd0n | ohh, vps... |
| 07:40.10 | cantido | g0rd0n: I installed it for a mate so that he could run his own sites and its been nothing but trouble really, doing it all manually would take half the time and go tits up less |
| 07:40.25 | Evet | cantido, so you recommend syscp |
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| 07:41.01 | cantido | Evet: well, if you want a free control you don't have all that much choice really |
| 07:41.09 | g0rd0n | yeah the learn curve in virtualmin is pretty high compared to other panels... |
| 07:41.11 | cantido | I wouldn't use it for anything important though |
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| 07:41.49 | Evet | cantido, i want provide a simple control panel for my non-experienced clients |
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| 07:43.43 | cantido | Evet: I'm having flashbacks, I'm pretty sure you've asked about this stuff before |
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| 07:44.58 | Evet | cantido, yes i asked for plesk and cpanel |
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| 07:46.46 | cantido | from my experience control panel look nice to start with an then end in big pile of shit.. we still have some acient fedora box that's broken to hell because the isp couldn't get their control panel running on pyhton2.5 correctly |
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| 07:48.18 | Evet | cantido, you're right |
| 07:48.38 | Evet | but my future customers wont their work on shell |
| 07:49.02 | Evet | then i create a virtual server to install control panel in it |
| 07:49.22 | Evet | i still dont trust control panels to install for whole server |
| 07:49.39 | MikeSeth | Evet: i refer you to slicehost |
| 07:49.50 | MikeSeth | (which by the way has virtual server creation API now) |
| 07:50.03 | cantido | I think I said this before, but it all depends on what you want to allow them to do,.. |
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| 07:51.50 | cantido | MikeSeth: I think he intends to setup his own slicehost, if I remember correctly he needs to make some money to cover his hosting fees |
| 07:52.40 | Evet | cantido, u r right |
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| 07:52.52 | Evet | and, im gonna provide only shared hosting |
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| 07:53.53 | cantido | Evet: do they need to be able to configure their own dns settings, things like that,.. or really do they just need an uploader for their files? |
| 07:54.04 | feitingen | the debian mirrors; are they building packages and release files and such, or is everything from one central location? |
| 07:54.33 | feitingen | i get funny size mismatch and hash sum mismatches on german debian mirrors |
| 07:55.15 | cantido | feitingen: the buildds build them and then they get mirrored out |
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| 07:55.43 | Evet | cantido, they will need only a file manager and traffic monitor |
| 07:56.28 | feitingen | cantido: so the mismatches i get is also mirrored? |
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| 07:57.12 | cantido | Evet: ok, you can easily find some upload applications, there must be a few thousand php ajax 2.0 uploaders out there, then give them some stats package like awstats or maybe piwik if you want something flashy |
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| 07:58.37 | cantido | feitingen: mm it shouldn't, with the release files I'm not sure were those are built, if they are mirrored from ftp.debian.org and some packages are behind you would get mismatches |
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| 07:58.47 | sylar | what's the name of serial via network? |
| 07:59.08 | Evet | cantido, good idea, thanks ;) |
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| 08:01.56 | cantido | sylar: like with a BCM .. ipmi etc? |
| 08:02.18 | sylar | cantido, doesn't ring a bell |
| 08:02.25 | sylar | cantido, something to do with sysrq |
| 08:03.00 | cantido | s/bcm/bmc/.. |
| 08:03.40 | sylar | netconsole |
| 08:03.43 | cantido | not sure then, I thought that sysreq stuff was magic that only people with a sysreq key were allowed to do ;) |
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| 08:04.13 | sylar | cantido, I am getting into it only due to bugs :( |
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| 08:04.40 | sylar | cantido, I need to learn how to make netconsole work |
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| 08:06.08 | cantido | sylar: first hit on netconsole howto seems helpful.. it's for suse but should apply to debian |
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| 08:07.47 | bb__ | hello |
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| 08:08.09 | bb__ | i tried to remap my keys on a vt but it does not work: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MovingTheCtrlKey#toc3 |
| 08:08.42 | bb__ | i have tried it also with keycode 66, since that is what xev prints out when i press caps_lock under X |
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| 08:11.17 | bb__ | sorry wrong link. this one is right: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MovingTheCtrlKey#toc5 |
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| 08:13.31 | konr | hmmm, any idea on why my .xsession is not being run after I log in via gdm? |
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| 08:14.41 | sylar | k |
| 08:14.42 | cantido | seems to remember it needing +x, not sure though |
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| 08:15.33 | cantido | sylar: there should be more genric docs out there, doesnt seem to hard though |
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| 08:26.47 | kraut | moin |
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| 08:37.21 | radex | hello, it's posible to run debian installer and install debian on the other working linux? |
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| 08:38.02 | dutchfish | radex, you mean debootstrap it? |
| 08:38.03 | iloveyou | radex: ...what? |
| 08:38.40 | radex | i have some linux on my PC, and from this linux i want to run debian installer and install debian on the other hard disk |
| 08:39.17 | chiak | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.en |
| 08:39.24 | chris_goe | debootstrap |
| 08:39.29 | Bushmills | or multistrap |
| 08:39.32 | jelly | radex: debootstrap is a way to install a base system in any directory or mountpoint; then you can set up a boot loader manually |
| 08:39.39 | jelly | multiwha? |
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| 08:39.58 | Bushmills | multistrap - multiple repository bootstrap based on apt |
| 08:40.17 | dutchfish | !coffee Bushmills |
| 08:40.17 | dpkg | decants a fine mug of hippy-blend Tanzanian for Bushmills, courtesy of dutchfish |
| 08:40.17 | grazymax | hi all |
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| 08:40.54 | Bushmills | thanks, I needed that one |
| 08:40.56 | jelly | "needs a working dpkg+apt" |
| 08:41.10 | jelly | gets a physical cup of |
| 08:41.18 | Bushmills | "radex: i have some linux on my PC, and from this..." |
| 08:41.42 | radex | jelly: i know that solution but i'm thinking if i can run debian installer |
| 08:42.35 | radex | on the freebsd for example is posible to run installer on the working system |
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| 08:46.09 | flourish | joeyjones: /etc/pam.d/su seems does the job |
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| 08:47.03 | oreo | hey guys! i just saw the mention of wajig in a howto; what do you guys think about it? |
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| 09:02.27 | darkskiez | oreo: apt-cache show wajig |
| 09:02.46 | oreo | darkskiez: what's the point of doing that? |
| 09:03.01 | darkskiez | tells you what debian thinks about it |
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| 09:11.16 | Fox_1_ | people how to change local only for one program? |
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| 09:11.48 | oreo | darkskiez: debian doesn't give opinion |
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| 09:44.47 | humbolt | Xen or KVM for virtualization of linux on linux? |
| 09:45.08 | the-dude | xen |
| 09:45.22 | humbolt | the-dude: because? |
| 09:45.49 | the-dude | stable, good support, compatable enz |
| 09:46.03 | humbolt | what is the last one? |
| 09:46.16 | fissie | it has been around for much longer, it has been pretty well tested, with PV offers unbeatable performance, ... |
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| 09:46.51 | the-dude | kvm is still under heavy development imho |
| 09:47.14 | humbolt | fissie: Is that still the case (PV performance). Thought KVM has paravirtualized drivers now as well. |
| 09:47.56 | fissie | does it? hmm, interesting :) |
| 09:48.46 | humbolt | fissie: have not tested it yet. Have not tested KVM at all yet. |
| 09:49.23 | humbolt | fissie: I already have a Xen environment running on the old server and am wondering if I need to switch to KVM on my new one. |
| 09:49.35 | humbolt | fissie: replace need with should |
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| 09:57.29 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 09:57.29 | dpkg | <wols_> vzrb a devuab betubstakk CD <wols_> *burn a dbeian netinstall CD <jelly> wols_: you're drifting to the right... republican? <wols_> jelly: my equipment drifts to the left. anarchist |
| 09:57.39 | liable | !seen wols |
| 09:57.39 | dpkg | wols <i=klingens@p549DCB80.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 230d 12h 55m 21s ago, saying: 'thank you'. |
| 09:57.46 | jelly | !been liable |
| 09:58.00 | liable | ive been unreliable |
| 09:58.14 | jelly | it's a substring match... |
| 09:58.17 | jelly | good enough for me |
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| 09:58.50 | jelly | wols is awols |
| 09:59.04 | amo | hi to all,which search engine is used in packages.debian.org to search a package? |
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| 09:59.25 | liable | yeah, hope he is ok, i vaguely recall him mentioning some medical problem |
| 10:00.09 | fireba11 | 230d is a long time |
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| 10:00.18 | liable | amo: i think its home rolled. dondelelcaro is the man iirc |
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| 10:03.59 | jelly | major error... he was drifting _left_ in that frst part of the quote |
| 10:04.35 | lvh | 2/j #xmonad |
| 10:04.38 | lvh | whoops. |
| 10:06.39 | hark_ | liable: try with the tail |
| 10:06.46 | tri | Hello, I have a problem I've been hacked. And I would like if there's something I can do except re-install the computer from the begining. From what I can see they have enterd through my phpmyadmin using somekind of http-scanner to start with trying to find diffrent services. In my apache2 access.log I see allot of tryes followed by the text "Toata dragostea mea pentru diavola" |
| 10:07.04 | tri | like to know* |
| 10:07.04 | liable | hark_: huh? i'm not a furry! ;) |
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| 10:07.31 | liable | tri: reinstall is really the only good option |
| 10:07.35 | amo | hi to all, after plug in usb disk i am getting error as No additional sense information |
| 10:07.35 | amo | end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 0 |
| 10:08.10 | poppiez | I just set the MAILTO variable in my /etc/crontab. I restarted the cron daemon but it keeps mailing to root@domainname.com instead of the specified mail in the MAILTO variable. what am I missing here? |
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| 10:08.52 | dehqan | good day everybody ,while removing libxml2 ,many other packages have been removed ,how can find names of those packages that have been removed with libxml2 ? |
| 10:09.18 | liable | dehqan: check your dpkg/aptitude log |
| 10:09.44 | amo | after connecting usb disk it is not showing in #fdisk -l |
| 10:10.02 | liable | IO errors aren't usually a good sign |
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| 10:11.27 | jelly | amo: is the disk supposed to be powered over usb? Is it possible your usb port don't give out enough power for a hard disk to work? |
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| 10:11.42 | jelly | doesn't* |
| 10:12.00 | amo | jelly, usb port works fine other usb devices works on same. |
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| 10:12.20 | amo | jelly, dmesg shows Sense Key : Medium Error [current] Info fld=0x0 |
| 10:12.51 | jelly | amo: dmesg shows more than that; pastebin the last 50-100 lines |
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| 10:13.48 | hark_ | !seen wols_ |
| 10:13.49 | dpkg | wols_ <i=klingens@p549DF3AF.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 11d 18h 56m 31s ago, saying: 'fishsponge: read the backports.org docs more carefully'. |
| 10:13.49 | jelly | amo: I assume you've already tried plugging the device into some other port with no change, and giving it additional power to work around that possible issue? |
| 10:14.22 | liable | eh, thats a bit odd. oftc? |
| 10:14.33 | hark_ | here! |
| 10:14.40 | dehqan | liable thanks and there are many packages that have been removed , now how can have a list of their names and install them again ? |
| 10:14.54 | hark_ | afk |
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| 10:14.57 | amo | jelly, http://pastebin.com/m1f879101 |
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| 10:15.00 | jelly | amo: you didn't answer whether the device was supposed to be powered solely over usb or not. Is it a hard drive? |
| 10:15.17 | liable | dehqan: you cant really get a clean list of them easily, unless you are good with awk and shit |
| 10:15.43 | amo | jelly, it is pen drive Bus 006 Device 004: ID eeee:1234 |
| 10:15.53 | dehqan | any opinion else ? |
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| 10:15.59 | liable | hark_: why did it say 230d before? I havent seen him here for ages, but i havent been around much either |
| 10:16.13 | jelly | liable: tailing underscore |
| 10:16.24 | liable | oh, right, didnt notice |
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| 10:17.41 | amo | jelly, same device on same port was working before after some formating it is not working. |
| 10:18.25 | jelly | amo: same kernel/debian release? |
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| 10:19.02 | amo | jelly, i hav erecompiled kernel using debian config file |
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| 10:19.11 | jelly | amo: uname -a? |
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| 10:19.35 | amo | jelly, Linux boss 2.6.22-3-486 #2 SMP Tue Feb 24 13:11:57 IST 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 10:20.13 | jelly | uhh, that's a very old kernel |
| 10:20.28 | chickchick | Hi. I want to know what entry I put into my /etc/fstab to mount my NTFS partition on boot. I can already mount it and it shows "/dev/sda1 on /media/NTFS type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)" when mounted. |
| 10:21.09 | jelly | amo: there have a good number of fixes for that chipset since; some of my SD-card issues have been fixed after ~2.6.24 among all; I'd try a newer kernel first. |
| 10:21.51 | jelly | amo: also, that machine will have a -686 capable cpu |
| 10:22.59 | chickchick | I will be needing an answer. Thank you. |
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| 10:24.46 | jelly | amo: which debian release are you using? cat /etc/debian_version; dpkg -l libc6|tail -1 |
| 10:25.10 | iloveyou | chickchick: ... "/dev/sda1 /media/NTFS ntfs defaults 0 0" ? |
| 10:25.31 | azm | lol |
| 10:25.54 | chickchick | iloveyou, the question mark does not create confidence. However, I salute your initiative |
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| 10:26.53 | chickchick | Oh, I see you are an Australian. How exciting. G'day cobber, 'ow's it goin'? |
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| 10:27.58 | chickchick | I believe I have issued a standard Australian greeting. I wish a reciprocal greeting. Thank you. |
| 10:29.00 | chickchick | Oswald! Oswald! Oswald! Oi! Oi! Oi! |
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| 10:29.12 | liable | g'day oldmate, grab us a VB from the esky will ya.. |
| 10:29.29 | jelly | k 's a VB? |
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| 10:29.52 | chickchick | no worries, mate. All I have is Cooper's. You'll be right? |
| 10:29.58 | liable | beer, horrible mass produced australian beer, which i drink way too many of |
| 10:30.16 | chickchick | oh I see. Why do you wantonly reject Coopers? |
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| 10:30.57 | liable | i drink it. dunno why i drink VB, uncultered perhaps? |
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| 10:31.01 | chickchick | Anyway, as long as you aren't hooked on alcopops, you'll be right |
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| 10:31.11 | chickchick | the K-bot loves to tax the fun stuff |
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| 10:31.27 | liable | actually, i drank 4 pale ales today in the qantas club in darwin |
| 10:31.46 | chickchick | ah, I'm drinking one now. Hmm, sounds like the old VB ad ... |
| 10:32.01 | liable | only cause they were free. then i had two james squires on the plane, now im drinking VB |
| 10:32.08 | chickchick | and if I was in Darwin waiting for a plane, I would have skolled a slab |
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| 10:33.27 | chickchick | I find Darwinites to be very coarse and common |
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| 10:33.53 | liable | i love darwin. its full of backpackers |
| 10:33.55 | chickchick | Often wearing thongs and saying "fuggin'" every 2nd word |
| 10:34.11 | liable | you sound like a fucking snob |
| 10:34.11 | chickchick | yes, the non-Darwinites there can be most pleasant |
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| 10:34.22 | chickchick | oh, I prefer the term "elitist" |
| 10:34.25 | liable | melbournite? |
| 10:34.30 | chickchick | yes, of course |
| 10:34.40 | Without | hi is there any command to kill all port 80 ? |
| 10:34.44 | liable | figures |
| 10:34.45 | jelly | is chickchick a chick? Bwaak bwaak |
| 10:34.55 | iloveyou | jelly: doubtful |
| 10:35.00 | chickchick | no |
| 10:35.08 | jelly | Without: what do you mean by "kill all port 80"? |
| 10:35.22 | Without | example kill process |
| 10:35.29 | Without | but i wanna kill all incoming port 80 |
| 10:35.33 | Without | i mean outgoing |
| 10:35.35 | chickchick | killall <app name> |
| 10:35.38 | chickchick | ah |
| 10:35.47 | karme | you want to kill all processes listening on tcp port 80? |
| 10:35.47 | liable | Without: kill the service thats running on 80 |
| 10:35.55 | chickchick | use iptables then. But it's a strange request |
| 10:36.05 | jelly | Without: fuser or lsof will help you to find out which processes sue that port |
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| 10:36.15 | yawn_ | hi |
| 10:36.15 | Without | chickchick: my iptables is not working |
| 10:36.16 | chickchick | if you kill port 80 outgoing you won't be able to use the web. You know that? |
| 10:36.18 | Without | unable to load it |
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| 10:36.25 | liable | what? |
| 10:36.28 | yawn_ | can somebody help me with fluxbox please? |
| 10:36.28 | chickchick | Without, is the module loaded? |
| 10:36.43 | Without | chickchick: how to check if it's loaded? |
| 10:36.51 | liable | Without: what exactly are you wanting to do? |
| 10:36.54 | chickchick | lsmod |
| 10:37.00 | jelly | yawn_: just ask the question, and if anyone's knowledgeable it'll get answered |
| 10:37.03 | Without | i wannna do APF + Dos-Deflate |
| 10:37.06 | yawn_ | ok thanks |
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| 10:37.14 | yawn_ | well the problem is I'm using GNU screen |
| 10:37.22 | yawn_ | and I set up my .screenrc |
| 10:37.28 | jelly | !enter |
| 10:37.28 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 10:37.35 | yawn_ | it works pretty fine but when I switch window |
| 10:37.40 | Without | i trying install APF.. when i start it i got unable to load iptables |
| 10:37.43 | yawn_ | (I've got two shells) |
| 10:37.56 | yawn_ | shell n1 disappear and I get the n2 on both halves |
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| 10:38.00 | chickchick | Without, anyway, why do you want to kill port 80 outgoing? Maybe there's a better solution |
| 10:38.08 | yawn_ | (I splitted my screen) |
| 10:38.24 | yawn_ | so how can I switch window without losing one? |
| 10:38.35 | yawn_ | so I have to set up something? |
| 10:38.42 | yawn_ | *do I |
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| 10:39.50 | oreo | could someone tell me if there's an advantage in using CUPS's normal system rather than using the printers as raw for samba? thanks |
| 10:39.55 | jelly | yawn_: where does fluxbox come into the whole story, btw? |
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| 10:40.42 | Without | can anyone help me with installing APF ? |
| 10:40.57 | Without | seems i'm unable to load iptables |
| 10:40.59 | yawn_ | because I'm using urxvt not something like GNOME-terminal or stuff like that |
| 10:41.47 | chickchick | Without, what output do you get when you type "iptables -L" into the console? |
| 10:41.54 | martin12345 | I inserted a PC Card(PCMCIA) 8MB Flash Memory to my laptop. Dmesg looks like this --> http://pastebin.com/d64473605 How can I access this memory? I mean read and write to it? |
| 10:42.36 | Without | erm |
| 10:42.40 | Without | where do i paste? |
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| 10:43.05 | chickchick | pastebin |
| 10:43.08 | Without | i got this |
| 10:43.08 | Without | http://pastebin.com/d160046a6 |
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| 10:44.14 | chickchick | Without, ok, it's installed. Just to be thorough pastebin the output of "lsmod | grep ip" |
| 10:44.35 | Without | ok |
| 10:44.37 | Without | i type lsmod | grep ip |
| 10:44.40 | Without | nothing is shows |
| 10:45.02 | jelly | yawn_: to recap, you're using one terminal, have screen running in it, and when you use screen's split function, you get the same shell in both halves? |
| 10:45.24 | chickchick | Without, ok. Type "modprobe ip_tables" then do the lsmod again |
| 10:45.43 | Without | FATAL: Module ip_tables not found. |
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| 10:46.05 | yawn_ | not really |
| 10:46.06 | yawn_ | I mean |
| 10:46.15 | chickchick | Without, ok, do "modprobe iptable_filter" and the lsmod again |
| 10:46.23 | yawn_ | I get two halves... in n1 I have nano running |
| 10:46.30 | yawn_ | in n2 i have a shell |
| 10:46.35 | Without | FATAL: Module iptable_filter not found. |
| 10:46.41 | yawn_ | but I get to type only in the left part |
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| 10:47.04 | yawn_ | so if I try to switch to n2 (the shell) i get the shell on the left AND on the right |
| 10:47.09 | jelly | yawn_: switching focus is done with ctrl-a TAB |
| 10:47.33 | jelly | when you've switched focus, you can switch to some other screen in that half |
| 10:47.52 | jelly | so ctrl-a 0 or 1 or ... in there |
| 10:48.14 | jelly | this has nothing to do with the window manager or anything in X btw |
| 10:48.21 | chickchick | Without, ok. let's go PM and I'll walk you through it |
| 10:48.27 | yawn_ | yeah but what if I want to type on the right half |
| 10:48.27 | Without | ok |
| 10:48.33 | chickchick | no cyber though |
| 10:48.37 | yawn_ | so that I can see in the same time the left half? |
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| 10:49.22 | jelly | yawn_: it works for me here |
| 10:49.32 | yawn_ | CTRL+A + TAB? |
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| 10:49.52 | jelly | yawn_: to switch focus to the other half, yes. |
| 10:50.12 | millun | hi, anybody knows why lenny keeps on sending me source of PHP file |
| 10:50.16 | millun | even though php5 mod is enabled |
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| 10:51.04 | yawn_ | i don't understand.. I'll have a look to .screenrc for the 100th time |
| 10:51.07 | yawn_ | thanks anyway |
| 10:52.10 | xand | !eeepc |
| 10:52.10 | dpkg | The Eee PC (aka RM Asus Minibook) is a <netbook> designed by Asus. Linux models are supplied with <Xandros> and are not supported in #debian, join #eeepc on irc.freenode.net. To install Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC for installation and configuration details. See also <atl2>, <atl1e>, <rt2860 eee>. Mailing list: http://alioth.debian.org/mail/?group_id=31309 #debian-eeepc on irc.oftc.net. |
| 10:52.34 | jelly | yawn_: I assume you know how to switch between started screens in a session; you can do that independently for each "region" of a split screen |
| 10:52.54 | `^-fs|fgs|fdd-^` | screen does splits? |
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| 10:53.34 | xand | !tell Kryo-Genesis -about eeepc |
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| 10:53.55 | jelly | `^-fs|fgs|fdd-^`: why yes. the manual will tell you about those |
| 10:54.39 | sylar | I am trying to use netconsole and it doesn't work |
| 10:54.45 | chickchick | hmm, I have a 1000H eeePC upon which I run Debian. There is no longer one eeePC model. The bot should be updated |
| 10:55.02 | sylar | anyone knows it maybe? |
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| 10:56.35 | amo | jelly, i am using debian lenny ii libc6 2.7-13 |
| 10:57.33 | jelly | amo: in that case, install linux-image-686, that'll get the latest supported lenny kernel |
| 10:58.16 | g00se | chickchick: 'not supported' means (i think) don't come to #debian asking for advice, not that they don't run under Debian |
| 10:58.26 | jelly | amo: if you're using binary nvidia or ati graphic drivers, they'll break |
| 10:59.17 | chickchick | g00se, I understand. Most of the ppl coming in in the early days would have been asking eeePC and Xandros questions and not debian questions |
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| 10:59.45 | chickchick | however, anecdotally, debian works just fine on my 1000H eeePC. Awesomely well! |
| 11:00.06 | g00se | chickchick: All special keys too? |
| 11:00.11 | iloveyou | chickchick: did you work out the fstab line? |
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| 11:00.27 | chickchick | iloveyou, ah yes |
| 11:00.40 | chickchick | g00se, er, no :) some though |
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| 11:00.54 | chickchick | g00se, at least dimming is ok |
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| 11:01.15 | iloveyou | chickchick: it just so happens that I have an ntfs volume that I need to mount in my fstab too. |
| 11:01.21 | g00se | chickchick: Well you see, that's the sort of thing that fits into the 'don't ask' category ;-) |
| 11:01.53 | chickchick | g00se, heh, gotcha |
| 11:01.59 | chickchick | iloveyou, you want my line? |
| 11:02.06 | iloveyou | chickchick: yes please |
| 11:02.07 | ryanhaigh1 | !pastebin |
| 11:02.08 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca or http://picpaste.com for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Just use pastebinit (package) if you cannot cut & paste. |
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| 11:04.01 | ryanhaigh1 | hi all, im having problems installing packages from backports using the instructions provide. see paste here: http://paste.debian.net/44987/ |
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| 11:05.36 | chickchick | iloveyou, sorry, I was helping Without. I'll PM you the line |
| 11:05.47 | g00se | ryanhaigh1: Are you trying to get voice support? |
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| 11:06.55 | anewbie | hi there i have problem with ssh connection sshd listen on port 22 i make iptables -F iptables -X iptables -P ACCEPT on all chains |
| 11:07.01 | anewbie | and still can't connect |
| 11:07.09 | anewbie | the nmap output show's me that the port is filtred |
| 11:07.14 | chickchick | umask=022 sets permissions of 755 and that gid is for my group. You won't need that |
| 11:07.16 | chickchick | sorry, wrong window |
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| 11:07.31 | anewbie | netstat -natp | grep LISTEN shows that sshd listen on port 22 |
| 11:07.32 | anewbie | .. |
| 11:07.36 | mitrax | hello, has the openssl package been renamed? apt-get can't find it |
| 11:07.36 | ryanhaigh1 | g00se: no i was just trying to get the backported version |
| 11:07.51 | jelly | anewbie: pastebin the output of iptables-save and that netstat command |
| 11:07.54 | ryanhaigh1 | as far as i know voice is only available in 2.6 |
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| 11:08.26 | anewbie | jelly, just a sec |
| 11:09.06 | Displacer | how to show available package versions from backport? |
| 11:09.35 | jelly | mitrax: use "apt-cache search stuff" for searching; "apt-cache policy packagename" to see available versions of a package; the policy line is for Displacer, too |
| 11:10.00 | ryanhaigh1 | i also wanted to try xfce4.6 from backports, but figured I would start with pidgin, i receive similar errors when trying to install xfce4 package |
| 11:10.32 | ryanhaigh1 | Displacer: in synaptic on the bottom left you can select origin |
| 11:10.37 | Displacer | pidgin dependencies seems broken on backports |
| 11:10.42 | jelly | judd: versions openssl |
| 11:10.55 | jelly | judd`: test |
| 11:10.56 | judd` | jelly: Error: "test" is not a valid command. |
| 11:11.00 | jelly | judd`: versions openssl |
| 11:11.01 | judd` | jelly: openssl -- etch: 0.9.8c-4etch4 etch-security: 0.9.8c-4etch5 lenny: 0.9.8g-15 lenny-security: 0.9.8g-15+lenny1 sid: 0.9.8k-4 squeeze: 0.9.8k-4 |
| 11:11.02 | chickchick | and "apt-cache show <package>" to show everything about that puppy! |
| 11:12.00 | jelly | mitrax: it seems to be there... do an update if you haven't already, check your mirror |
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| 11:12.31 | ryanhaigh1 | Displacer: are you saying that to help me, or is it just a coincidence you are having the same issues |
| 11:12.59 | Displacer | ryanhaigh1, i have the same issues |
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| 11:16.13 | ixiion | hallo |
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| 11:16.53 | anewbie | jelly, i solve it alone :D |
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| 11:17.07 | Displacer | ryanhaigh1, dpkg -i pidgin-data_2.5.8-1~bpo50+1_all.deb solved my problem |
| 11:17.37 | Displacer | until pidgin 2.5.9 is uploaded to backports |
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| 11:18.27 | mitrax | jelly: actually the file is missing from my mirror, i'm trying to find another repository that has it for lenny, without success, do you know any repository i can use? |
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| 11:21.03 | jelly | !mirrors |
| 11:21.03 | dpkg | it has been said that debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/, see also <debmirror>. |
| 11:21.25 | jelly | !cookie anewbie |
| 11:21.27 | dpkg | pulls out the cookie jar and finds ... |
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| 11:21.39 | jelly | no, dummy, give them a cookie |
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| 11:22.17 | mitrax | thanks |
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| 11:24.15 | MrWax | if i like to unzip 20 zip files in the directory i am in now in linux, how can i do this best? with a foreach? |
| 11:26.47 | ratono | is back (gone 00:08:17) |
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| 11:27.12 | ratono | is away: Estoy ocupado | I'm busy |
| 11:27.23 | DimmuR | MrWax: just something like for i in `ls *zip` do unzip $i; done |
| 11:27.29 | azeem_ | ratono: please turn off public away |
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| 11:27.58 | jelly | DimmuR: NO |
| 11:28.18 | ratono | azeem_, yes, i try xchat, sorry ;) |
| 11:28.24 | MrWax | thanks |
| 11:28.32 | jelly | !bash pitfalls |
| 11:28.32 | dpkg | Read about common sh/bash script mistakes at http://wooledge.org:8000/BashPitfalls |
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| 11:29.08 | jelly | DimmuR: read the page ^^ |
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| 11:29.49 | jelly | the general idea is sound, but the execution has a number of errors. |
| 11:30.01 | DimmuR | jelly: just reading - you're right |
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| 11:31.00 | MrWax | oh and what would be the best way for example to delete everything in a dir except the .dmg file? |
| 11:31.06 | MrWax | all dirs + files apart *.dmg |
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| 11:31.20 | MrWax | find . -type f -type d -not -name *.dmg | blabla . ? |
| 11:31.27 | jelly | MrWax: are there *.dmg only in there current directory, or anywhere below? |
| 11:31.41 | DimmuR | MrWax: for find you have -exec afaik |
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| 11:32.40 | jelly | MrWax: if the latter, do you need to preserve the directory structure? |
| 11:32.51 | jelly | !using find |
| 11:32.51 | dpkg | rumour has it, using find is http://wooledge.org:8000/UsingFind, or "man find" |
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| 11:33.46 | MrWax | jelly: i only have one .dmg file in the directory i am in |
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| 11:33.53 | MrWax | and i like to del everything else in the dir i am in |
| 11:34.04 | jelly | MrWax: move it somewhere else and delete everything :-) |
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| 11:34.28 | MrWax | thats not so efficient P:) |
| 11:34.45 | jelly | MrWax: moving in the same mountpoint has virtually 0 cost |
| 11:34.55 | MrWax | putting in alias and executing is much faster |
| 11:35.41 | jelly | MrWax: well then, read the using find page and make an efficient command |
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| 11:37.49 | MrWax | ok got it |
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| 11:38.48 | jelly | thinks mv * ..; rm -rf blah is efficient use of his time |
| 11:39.05 | jelly | mv *.dmg .., that is |
| 11:39.41 | petemc | im sure you know this, but you dont need the f |
| 11:39.44 | dutchfish | !bashism |
| 11:39.44 | dpkg | Many people think all that is in bash is in sh and put #!/bin/sh to start their script with bash extensions instead of #!/bin/bash. From squeeze onwards, /bin/sh won't be bash but <dash>. See "checkbashisms" in the devscripts package -- you will need to either fix your scripts to only use real "sh" functionality (and leave them as #!/bin/sh) or change the first line to read #!/bin/bash." |
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| 11:43.14 | MrWax | find . -type f -not -name *.dmg | xargs /bin/rm -r |
| 11:43.17 | MrWax | will also work right? |
| 11:44.15 | oreo | is it possible to have cross-subnet smb browsing without having a samba server relay on each subnet? |
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| 11:45.04 | valdyn | oreo: thats the default? |
| 11:45.17 | oreo | valdyn: what do you mean? |
| 11:45.26 | dutchfish | oreo, not without a smart router, but without that it wont stop you from connecting through smb |
| 11:46.00 | valdyn | oreo: smb jsut does broadcasts, it would "work" accross the whole internet if routers didnt drop that |
| 11:46.11 | oreo | dutchfish: i know it won't stop me, but i would just like that feature. do i just need to forward netbios brodcast traffic on the firewall for it? |
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| 11:46.24 | dutchfish | oreo, follow valdyn |
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| 11:46.53 | oreo | is it possible to forward broadcast netbios traffic? |
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| 11:47.06 | valdyn | oreo: if your router is capable |
| 11:47.08 | dutchfish | oreo, sure, but i would not recommend that |
| 11:47.16 | abrotman | forward it to where? |
| 11:47.27 | oreo | to local subnet |
| 11:47.40 | oreo | 192.168.1.255 -> .2.255 |
| 11:47.43 | oreo | and vice versa |
| 11:47.45 | oreo | for netbios only |
| 11:48.02 | oreo | i have iptables |
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| 11:48.20 | valdyn | !netbios |
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| 11:48.23 | valdyn | oo |
| 11:48.38 | valdyn | oreo: what is your router? a debian box? |
| 11:48.43 | oreo | valdyn: yes |
| 11:48.57 | abrotman | the router controls both subnets? |
| 11:49.09 | oreo | yes it does |
| 11:49.12 | dutchfish | oreo, if you just point your wins servers from dhcp to the lcient in the other subnet, you prevent to chatty lan in total, so do you really want that? |
| 11:49.23 | dutchfish | s/lcient/client |
| 11:49.33 | rdz | in case one has completely messed up the routing table, is there way to easily reset everything, as after a reboot but without actually rebooting? |
| 11:49.33 | oreo | i already point clients to the wins server |
| 11:49.36 | oreo | doesn't seem to help |
| 11:50.08 | dutchfish | oreo, this only works in a DOMAIN setup however |
| 11:50.15 | oreo | ah that's why then |
| 11:50.22 | oreo | i don't want to set up a domain |
| 11:50.42 | oreo | basically the samba server is in the .3.0 subnet (services subnet) |
| 11:50.52 | dutchfish | oreo, then your total number of pc's is not large enough to have a need for subnetting, isnt it? |
| 11:50.54 | oreo | and i have clients in .1.0 (LAN) and .2.0 (WLAN) |
| 11:51.10 | oreo | doesn't have to do with size, but "security" |
| 11:51.22 | oreo | to protect my wired PC's (LAN) from WLAN |
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| 11:51.35 | dutchfish | oreo, what about vpn? |
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| 11:52.33 | dutchfish | oreo, or restrict wlan access mac based? |
| 11:52.55 | dutchfish | oreo, or radius or whatever |
| 11:53.05 | oreo | dutchfish: i could want to give wlan access to guests, but not want them to access everything on my LAN |
| 11:53.30 | dutchfish | oreo, in that case you dont want them to SEE the others, isnt it? |
| 11:53.32 | oreo | also VPN wouldn't work, since the server would be in the .3.0 range, not the LAN one |
| 11:53.49 | oreo | you have a point =) |
| 11:54.05 | oreo | ahh networking and security sucks |
| 11:54.17 | dutchfish | oreo, its always a tradeoff |
| 11:54.25 | oreo | yes, unfortunately |
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| 11:54.51 | oreo | i wonder if i shouldn't just combine wlan and lan; it's a home setup after all |
| 11:54.52 | dutchfish | oreo, why not make 2 wlans 1 for guests 1 for trusted members ? |
| 11:54.56 | oreo | i guess i'll have to ponder a bit |
| 11:55.19 | oreo | means i'd have to use two AP's |
| 11:55.39 | oreo | i guess i'll just have to trust my guests, if i combine the two subnets hehe |
| 11:55.40 | dutchfish | oreo, yes, but you save a lot of trouble by placing the guest one in a separate DMZ zone |
| 11:55.46 | sylar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:56.01 | liable | it shows whatever is in syslog |
| 11:56.53 | oreo | what do you guys think about wajig btw? |
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| 11:57.14 | oreo | seems like a nice front end, although for services you have to remember the names |
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| 12:04.46 | sbyrne | Is there a preferred way in debian to do fsck on halt instead of boot? |
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| 12:05.22 | justin | sbyrne: shutdown has an option to do fsck on reboot |
| 12:05.47 | liable | on halt? not that i recall |
| 12:05.48 | abrotman | i think he wants to do it as it shuts down |
| 12:06.08 | sbyrne | It currently does it every 27 boots. I want it to do it on every 27th shutdown. |
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| 12:06.19 | datenritter | i have this postgresql-8.3 installation here (lenny), and when i run "/etc/init.d/postgresql-8.3 start", it tells me it would start, but doesn't. any idea what i should check? syslog doesn't have anything about psql. i didn't find a "non-deamon"-mode or anything, so no error messages, nothing... i'm lost. |
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| 12:07.10 | liable | had to do some fsck'ing of /home today. must buy a new drive i think |
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| 12:09.32 | justin | datenritter: /var/log/postgresql |
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| 12:09.59 | justin | datenritter: sh -x /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.3 start |
| 12:11.14 | jpinx-eeepc | is it just me or does clive not work at extracting youtube videos anymore? |
| 12:11.22 | abrotman | been rumors |
| 12:12.11 | jpinx-eeepc | I can confirm them - it's not extracting |
| 12:12.27 | jpinx-eeepc | purges clive |
| 12:12.27 | SPF | is it possible to scp multiple files from differend source locations to a remote system with differend target locations without using keys? |
| 12:12.39 | jpinx-eeepc | SPF: use rsync |
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| 12:15.29 | SPF | jpinx-eeepc: wouldn't that prompt me with a password after every rsync command? |
| 12:15.45 | datenritter | justin: nothing in the logs. sh -x - output here: http://pastebin.com/d328d60c9 |
| 12:15.47 | Without | how can i install netfilter ?? |
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| 12:16.37 | jpinx-eeepc | SPF: read man rsync - it will do multiple files with the various filtering options |
| 12:16.58 | liable | Without: its part of the kernel. you should just have it, unless your box is an openvz thing or something |
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| 12:17.07 | pdvyas | has any body any luck with Linux kernel webcams Driver GSPCA / SPCA5xx |
| 12:17.27 | Without | liable: my provider ask me to install netfilter by myself |
| 12:17.31 | Without | how can it be? |
| 12:17.45 | abrotman | Without: did you provider tell you that yu don't have it? |
| 12:18.05 | liable | Without: netfilter is actually kernel modules, iptables is the tool to manipulate them |
| 12:18.07 | fas3r | i want to block user who use hub or switch behind computer .. i have see it's possible to do it with iptables and ttl patch... it's in the mangle table but it's in the INPUT or OUTPUT table ? |
| 12:18.10 | Without | yep i've asked them.. they told me it's not installed.. ask me to use iptables instead |
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| 12:19.44 | Without | i've try modprobe_iptable_filter |
| 12:19.45 | Without | FATAL: Module iptable_filter not found. |
| 12:19.55 | liable | Without: is your box a virtual one? i know openvz has shit iptables support with my providor. xen has the full range of modules apparently |
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| 12:20.18 | Without | how to check if it's virtual ? |
| 12:20.18 | abrotman | Without: what are you actually trying to do? |
| 12:20.21 | Without | its dedicated |
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| 12:20.30 | datenritter | fas3r: you should read about ip-networks in general and then study an iptables tutorial. what you want to do is to change the TTL (which is done in the mangle table) so the packets run out of ttl when they arrive at that pc. |
| 12:20.32 | liable | plus netfilter names did change in about 2.6.24 too |
| 12:20.33 | Without | i'm trying to install APF + Dos-Deflate |
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| 12:20.54 | Without | mine is /lib/modules/2.6.28.9 |
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| 12:22.00 | datenritter | fas3r: the user can change it back anyway... it's not going to ork with a switch or hub, just against router i think |
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| 12:25.34 | Snadder | Where can I find a guide on how to install a diffrent os in a vm? |
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| 12:25.47 | petemc | internet |
| 12:26.19 | Snadder | Well.. I dont remember the name of the package I need to search for.. I dont want to use vmware. |
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| 12:26.32 | petemc | virtualbox, perhaps |
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| 12:27.26 | Snadder | petemc, I remember there was another package too.. ? |
| 12:27.26 | Without | anyone could solve my prob? |
| 12:27.42 | liable | Snadder: qemu? |
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| 12:28.33 | azeem_ | datenritter: maybe it's the start=manual thing? |
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| 12:29.28 | datenritter | azeem_: no idea... i'm fiddleing with the pg_ctlcluster command atm |
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| 12:30.15 | orion_x11 | Hi. After upgrading my squeeze, wicd disappeared. And when I try to reinstall it again it says that is going to remove gnome and all its stuff. So, how do I reinstall it again without removing gnome? |
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| 12:32.00 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: apparently there is a clive2 but it's not in backports yet |
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| 12:32.11 | jpinx-eeepc | judd`: versions clive2 |
| 12:32.11 | judd` | jpinx-eeepc: clive2 -- |
| 12:32.17 | jpinx-eeepc | judd`: versions clive |
| 12:32.17 | judd` | jpinx-eeepc: clive -- etch-backports: 0.4.14-1~bpo40+1 lenny: 0.4.18-1 sid: 1.0.2-1 sid: 2.2.4-1 squeeze: 2.2.4-1 |
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| 12:32.22 | azeem_ | datenritter: what does /etc/postgresql/8.3/main/start.conf say? |
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| 12:34.03 | datenritter | azeem_: "# This cluster was upgraded to a newer major version. The old # cluster has been preserved for backup purposes, but is not started # automatically." :-( |
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| 12:34.28 | azeem_ | datenritter: so fix tat |
| 12:34.29 | azeem_ | that* |
| 12:34.54 | datenritter | azeem_: funny, 8.3 is the latest version on this box. :( |
| 12:35.05 | datenritter | what should i do? install 8.4? |
| 12:35.07 | azeem_ | why is that funny? |
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| 12:35.51 | datenritter | funny, because: if i get it right, the file says, the installation is outdated. but nobody installed a newer version. kinda weird... |
| 12:36.07 | azeem_ | I don't read that |
| 12:36.40 | azeem_ | I read that you upgraded postgresql since the database was created, and cluster was set to manual so you can check everything works correct before setting it to auto again |
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| 12:37.04 | datenritter | hmm |
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| 12:37.09 | azeem_ | not that I know a lot about postgresql administration or postgresql packaging |
| 12:37.18 | azeem_ | I suggest you check README.Debian etc. |
| 12:37.21 | datenritter | k |
| 12:37.48 | azeem_ | is this some production server for the piratenpartei; or your home thingy? |
| 12:37.56 | Without | how can i install netfilter manually ? |
| 12:38.27 | datenritter | azeem_: production server that failed exactly the day when the "chief" admin went on vacation. as usual. |
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| 12:38.38 | datenritter | azeem_: university network |
| 12:38.46 | azeem_ | datenritter: did you upgrade to lenny on that day? |
| 12:38.50 | datenritter | nope |
| 12:39.00 | azeem_ | rebooted? |
| 12:39.07 | datenritter | the only change i made yesterday was the kernel version. yes, rebooted |
| 12:39.15 | datenritter | the USV failed on friday |
| 12:39.32 | azeem_ | then it most probably did not automatically start back then either |
| 12:39.37 | tawan | anyone sucessfully using xcompmgr in sid? |
| 12:39.44 | Titan8990_ | maybe upgrading kernel while admin is gone wasn't best |
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| 12:40.09 | Titan8990_ | doesn't even see how it sounds like a good idea |
| 12:40.49 | abrotman | Titan8990_: pshw .. i let the accountant update kernels all day... |
| 12:41.06 | datenritter | Titan8990_: i don't really worry about kernel versions... i know what i am doing there. but i don't know anything about postgresql. neither can i look into the "chief" admin's mind. he's kind of... confusing sometimes. e.g. setting postgresql to manual startup. |
| 12:41.38 | datenritter | Titan8990_: i even took the debian kernel this time, not my own. ^^ |
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| 12:42.16 | Evet | how to hard-format whole harddisk? |
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| 12:42.28 | datenritter | Evet: what are you trying to achive? |
| 12:42.47 | datenritter | Evet: do you want to make all data unreadable? |
| 12:42.55 | abrotman | Evet: dban.sf.net |
| 12:43.06 | Evet | datenritter, clean the disk non-recoverable |
| 12:43.16 | datenritter | Evet: use shred or wipe |
| 12:43.20 | datenritter | wipe is recommended |
| 12:43.28 | datenritter | set the options so the disk is zeroed ONCE |
| 12:43.34 | abrotman | Evet: dban.sf.net |
| 12:43.37 | datenritter | do not believe in military-standards |
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| 12:43.39 | azeem_ | datenritter: I don't think the admin set it to manual |
| 12:44.04 | datenritter | azeem_: oh, you mean it's the default setting after an upgrade? |
| 12:44.11 | datenritter | i see |
| 12:44.21 | Evet | hmm |
| 12:44.22 | xota | hi! I'm trying to execute a programa at debian's start. but I didn't run it as a background program, so I haven't the control of my tty now and I can stop the program to login |
| 12:44.27 | Evet | abrotman, ty |
| 12:44.29 | azeem_ | datenritter: well, it's probably done on some conditions on an upgrade |
| 12:44.33 | azeem_ | not necessarily default |
| 12:44.37 | datenritter | Evet: zeroing a large dsik once will take hours. fullfillng mil-standards doesn't help but will take weeks. |
| 12:44.43 | azeem_ | but maybe it's explained in README.DEbian |
| 12:44.51 | datenritter | azeem_: reading already... |
| 12:45.03 | Evet | hmm |
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| 12:46.03 | datenritter | "pg_ctlcluster 8.3 main start" just works |
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| 12:46.35 | datenritter | hrpf |
| 12:46.41 | Evet | datenritter, how to zero? |
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| 12:49.23 | datenritter | Evet: with wipe or shred |
| 12:49.37 | datenritter | Evet: "shred -n0 -z /dev/hda" |
| 12:49.58 | datenritter | Evet: or just burn the disc with thermite. it's faster. |
| 12:50.22 | Evet | dd can zero? |
| 12:51.01 | datenritter | Evet: you can copy zeros from /dev/zero to /dev/hda with dd, yes. |
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| 12:52.40 | sep | query dpkg |
| 12:52.48 | Titan8990_ | Evet, you shouldn't ask the samething in multiple chans at the same time |
| 12:53.06 | Titan8990_ | Evet, its bad etiquette as i see your getting help from the same problem from two chans.... |
| 12:53.55 | Evet | thanks datenritter |
| 12:54.39 | sylar | I have made an mdadm raid5 array of 3 disks and it thinks that one of the disks is a spare :/ |
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| 12:56.19 | datenritter | sylar: don't use raid5 without a spare drive. |
| 12:56.24 | ReT__ | Anyone here other than DPKG bot know anything about the x11 and configuring it? |
| 12:56.34 | datenritter | sylar: you should have 4 disks, 3 for the array, one a spare |
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| 12:56.48 | datenritter | sylar: so two disks can fail w/o data loss |
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| 12:57.16 | datenritter | sylar: not sure if it's possible to set up raid5 with 2 disks and one spare. i wonder how the parity data looks like... |
| 12:57.31 | datenritter | would be the same as raid1 then |
| 12:57.45 | datenritter | ReT__: me |
| 12:58.09 | ReT__ | Well, I need some help. I'm fairly new to Debian and I'm trying to install ATI Radeon drivers. |
| 12:58.11 | sylar | I am ok this way |
| 12:58.51 | ReT__ | Basically, my card came packaged as a Radeon 9250... but I'm positive it isn't. Nothing that's made for 9250 works with it. Can you help me find the right drivers and properly install then, datenritter? |
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| 12:59.54 | comradekingu | ReT__: If you have xorg 7.4 the fglrx drivers arent compatible. Ati pulled support for it |
| 13:00.18 | ReT__ | So am I screwed as far as drivers go? I really want to play HoN :P |
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| 13:01.37 | _marix | hmm, would the following be correct as a crontab entry: @reboot user /path/to/script >/dev/null 2>&1 |
| 13:01.40 | comradekingu | ReT__: You can install catalyst 9.3 |
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| 13:02.02 | ReT__ | >.> Catalyst doesn't go that high for my card I don't think. |
| 13:02.32 | ReT__ | As of now I downloaded the ati-driver-installer-8.28.8 |
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| 13:03.18 | datenritter | ReT__: what's wrong with the ati installer? |
| 13:03.36 | ReT__ | Whenever I try it either gives me: Detected configuration: |
| 13:03.36 | ReT__ | Architecture: i686 (32-bit) |
| 13:03.36 | ReT__ | X Server: unable to detect |
| 13:03.36 | ReT__ | Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install |
| 13:03.36 | ReT__ | ret@Ret:~$ |
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| 13:03.37 | datenritter | ReT__: installation should be straghtforward, it will fix the xorg.conf for you |
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| 13:03.43 | ReT__ | -_- |
| 13:03.44 | comradekingu | ReT__: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_hardware_and_FOSS#ATI.2FAMD try radeonhd |
| 13:03.59 | Snadder | How do I know if I have CPU with virtualization support.. so I can use kvm? |
| 13:04.04 | j_14 | Hello. Is irc.debian.org down? |
| 13:04.28 | Snadder | I'm using AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+ |
| 13:04.45 | ReT__ | "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd"? |
| 13:04.49 | datenritter | Snadder: should work, yes |
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| 13:07.47 | datenritter | i just can't find out how to make postgresql start automatically. all the faqs say the distrbutions would have their start scripts. well, duh... |
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| 13:08.06 | abrotman | and debian does |
| 13:08.07 | ReT__ | Comradekingu: It's already installed, but I'm lacking any sort of representation of it. Is there a way to check my default drivers? |
| 13:08.58 | datenritter | abrotman: yeah, but it doesn't do the cluster start dance. |
| 13:09.23 | abrotman | did you initiate the cluster? |
| 13:09.27 | azeem_ | datenritter: eh, didn't we discuss this earlier? |
| 13:09.36 | abrotman | datenritter: did you do a dist-upgrade and not follow the instructions? |
| 13:09.55 | eoliva | Why every time I reboot my Debian Sid, it comes with sound muted. |
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| 13:10.43 | datenritter | abrotman: i could follow those instructions _now_, if i new them. if you're talking about the drop and upgrade stuff - that has been done already. |
| 13:11.00 | abrotman | pg_upgradecluster stuff ? |
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| 13:12.13 | datenritter | pg_dropcluster --stop 8.3 main ; pg_upgradecluster --locale de_DE.UTF-8 -v 8.3 8.1 main |
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| 13:12.27 | datenritter | this is what the other admin (let's not call him chief anymore) did |
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| 13:12.55 | datenritter | since then i guess the init-script doesn't do anything anymore. it doesn't even stop a cluster. |
| 13:13.04 | azeem_ | 15:08 < azeem_> datenritter: eh, didn't we discuss this earlier? |
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| 13:13.11 | sharket | hi there |
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| 13:13.21 | Dassu | Hmm |
| 13:13.26 | datenritter | azeem_: i looked at the readme. no luck... |
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| 13:13.43 | sharket | i've installed debian stable right now, and i can't "mount" my multimedia HD |
| 13:13.44 | Dassu | When considering runlevels and init. Does debian system go from runlevel 0 to 2 during normal boot or directly to the 2 ? |
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| 13:13.57 | azeem_ | datenritter: the fact that your cluster is set to "manual" and not "auto" is not making you think of something? |
| 13:14.03 | sharket | it just say, it cann't mount |
| 13:14.20 | sharket | someone with info about this |
| 13:14.31 | abrotman | sharket: which filesystem is it? |
| 13:14.40 | sharket | ntfs i guess |
| 13:14.44 | abrotman | don't guess |
| 13:14.57 | sharket | and how can i knoe ? |
| 13:15.00 | sharket | know* |
| 13:15.02 | datenritter | azeem_: not except that i would like to gently change that setting... somehow. |
| 13:15.08 | abrotman | sharket: you formatted the thing .. /msg dpkg ntfs-3g |
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| 13:15.45 | sharket | abrotman: it's a multimedia HD |
| 13:15.47 | azeem_ | datenritter: are you asking us how to use a text editor now? |
| 13:16.00 | sharket | i donkt know if i should change any fs |
| 13:16.01 | abrotman | sharket: that means nothing to me .. USB? internal? bernouli? |
| 13:16.02 | Dassu | it kidna has to go since udev starts before everythign and it is not located in /etc/rc2.d |
| 13:16.06 | sharket | usb |
| 13:16.08 | sharket | of course |
| 13:16.25 | azeem_ | sharket: what about eSATA? |
| 13:16.26 | sharket | to upload stuff and whatch it on tv* |
| 13:16.30 | tri | ohhh fancy ext4 is avil, do you recommend? :) |
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| 13:16.53 | liable | damn |
| 13:16.57 | sharket | dont know azeem_ , i'll check out now |
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| 13:17.05 | azeem_ | sharket: just saying |
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| 13:17.14 | azeem_ | sharket: not everything external is usb these days |
| 13:17.37 | abrotman | tomaw: Sorry, I thought it was ignoring me, not running slow |
| 13:17.40 | sharket | yes, i'm sorry |
| 13:17.49 | datenritter | geeez, syntax highlighting hid that word "manual" as dark grey on black... |
| 13:17.51 | tomaw | abrotman: it klined anyway |
| 13:18.09 | abrotman | tomaw: ah okay, thanks |
| 13:18.10 | tomaw | I suspect the sponsor it's running at has problems as they just split from efnet |
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| 13:18.16 | abrotman | oh cute .. okay |
| 13:18.20 | Thybo | hello :) |
| 13:18.33 | abrotman | stops being mean to the bot |
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| 13:19.09 | liable | sure, you say that now, then your urges start to mount again.. |
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| 13:19.40 | datenritter | azeem_: found it. didn't you notice i overlooked the "manual" line in start.conf earlier? :-\ |
| 13:19.46 | Thybo | i have an issue with time.... hwclock is set to the right time... "date" gives me the right time but "date -u" gives me a wrong time (+4 hours) does anyone know how to fix this? |
| 13:19.54 | sharket | http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/spe9025cc_10/spe9025cc_10_pss_aen.pdf |
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| 13:19.59 | sharket | this is what i hve |
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| 13:20.52 | petemc | datenritter: set background=dark , if you're using a black terminal |
| 13:20.56 | sylar | do you know how to make mdadm use the spair disk? |
| 13:21.14 | sharket | maybe it uses fat32 |
| 13:21.14 | datenritter | petemc: done |
| 13:21.24 | sharket | or anyone only can used in windows... |
| 13:21.42 | sharket | always i'm oblied to use windows :S |
| 13:21.45 | azeem_ | datenritter: it didn't occur to me that it was overlookable |
| 13:21.55 | sharket | forone or another reason |
| 13:21.59 | datenritter | petemc: doesn't help against display reflections, as it's still grey |
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| 13:22.34 | datenritter | is so happy about autostart postgesql now... :-) |
| 13:22.37 | azeem_ | datenritter: besides that, you trace of the init scripts clearly indicated it was seeing manual mode and exiting out |
| 13:22.41 | azeem_ | your* |
| 13:22.41 | sharket | azeem_: what info do u need to give me any tip ? |
| 13:22.55 | azeem_ | sharket: I am not looking at your problem |
| 13:23.08 | sharket | oh |
| 13:23.10 | sharket | :( |
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| 13:23.39 | datenritter | sharket: ntfs or fat? |
| 13:23.42 | sharket | abrotman: are u still there ? |
| 13:23.47 | abrotman | no? |
| 13:23.51 | sharket | i dont know how to check it |
| 13:24.12 | datenritter | sharket: try to mount with -t vfat and -t ntfs and see if the error msgs change |
| 13:24.21 | datenritter | check kernel modules |
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| 13:24.53 | datenritter | sharket: copy your command line (not the results!) here |
| 13:25.53 | jelly | Thybo: pastebin the output of: grep UTC /etc/default/rcS; hwclock --utc; hwclock; date; date -u |
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| 13:27.49 | sharket | exit |
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| 13:28.22 | Thybo | jelly, http://pastebin.com/mcc8db60 |
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| 13:30.35 | jelly | Thybo: which timezone are you in? |
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| 13:31.10 | jelly | Thybo: it looks like you should be in CET (central european), not EDT |
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| 13:31.27 | jelly | !tell Thybo -about set time |
| 13:32.15 | Tommy\DO | is anybody successfully using the performance control provided by eee-control on an eeepc 901? I can't change neither fsb nor cpu voltage settings. I'm using lenny with kernel 2.6.30 from lenny-backports. (it also didn't work with the generic 2.6.26 from lenny) |
| 13:32.38 | jelly | Thybo: if you're only running Linux on that machine, it's better to run the BIOS clock in UTC |
| 13:32.49 | sylar | how do I add the spare to the array? |
| 13:32.53 | sylar | (mdadm) |
| 13:32.58 | Thybo | jelly, and if i'm not? |
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| 13:33.41 | jelly | Thybo: Windows wants the bios clock to be in local time |
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| 13:34.44 | PriitM | windows is the dumb too |
| 13:34.58 | jelly | Thybo: your machine is already set up that way, so you don't have to mess with /etc/default/rcS in that case |
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| 13:35.06 | Thybo | jelly, ndp install did it thank you :) |
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| 13:35.18 | Thybo | was reluctant to have my time set by the web but... it's done now |
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| 13:35.43 | jelly | Thybo: did what? Fix your timezone? |
| 13:35.56 | Thybo | yes :) |
| 13:36.09 | jelly | mutters *unlikely* under breath |
| 13:36.19 | Thybo | jelly, problem was evolution & kworldclock having the wrong time |
| 13:36.28 | Thybo | kworldclock now dispays it correctly :) |
| 13:36.46 | jelly | they merely displayes what you had configured |
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| 13:37.44 | jelly | Thybo: this is correct for CET, now: date: Tue Aug 25 15:37:21 CEST 2009 date -u: Tue Aug 25 13:37:21 UTC 2009 |
| 13:38.40 | Thybo | jelly, agreed |
| 13:38.48 | Thybo | utc is 13h28 ? |
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| 13:39.27 | j_14 | i have 13:40 |
| 13:39.34 | EmleyMoor | 13:39 by me |
| 13:39.59 | jelly | oh no! Time keeps on shifting! |
| 13:40.13 | Thybo | loool |
| 13:40.43 | datenritter | (15:32:48) sylar: how do I add the spare to the array? <-- with --add maybe? ;) |
| 13:41.00 | Dassu | aargh. are scripts in rcS.d ran bebofore ones in rc2.d ? |
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| 13:41.31 | datenritter | sylar: you should have create the array with -l5 -n3 |
| 13:41.39 | Thybo | sylar stopped time!!! |
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| 13:41.43 | {g} | Hey People! Whats a good way to get lines 100 to 200 from a file? |
| 13:41.50 | Thybo | he stole the power from the other heroe |
| 13:42.08 | kronic | {g}: head -100 or tail -100 |
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| 13:42.43 | kronic | {g}: sorry, misread, look at piping head and tail |
| 13:42.46 | jelly | kronic: both of those, combined! |
| 13:43.00 | datenritter | {g}: grep -A100 "textinlastline" |
| 13:43.10 | datenritter | oh no, -B100 |
| 13:43.16 | Thybo | thanks for the help jelly :) |
| 13:43.26 | jelly | {g}: something like tail -n +100 file | head -n 101 |
| 13:43.31 | datenritter | there is also a pretty complicated way for sed and awk... google for it if you dare ^^ |
| 13:43.55 | jelly | {g}: assuming you wanted 100-200 inclusive |
| 13:44.04 | jelly | echo '1 |
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| 13:44.15 | sylar | datenritter, no , add don't work |
| 13:44.25 | jelly | oops |
| 13:44.34 | sylar | datenritter, I did create with -l5 -n3 |
| 13:44.45 | datenritter | sylar: everything should be ok then |
| 13:44.53 | {g} | jelly: i think `cat file | head -n 200 | tail -n 100` would do it.. but its kind of ugly... |
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| 13:45.12 | llutz | useless use of cat |
| 13:45.38 | datenritter | sylar: read the man page. the spare drive is not really a hot-spare like you think... |
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| 13:45.49 | rgr | whats the command to use in a shell to show changes to the end of a log? tail? |
| 13:46.05 | jelly | {g}: same thing (except you wanted head -n 201) |
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| 13:46.19 | rgr | tail -f, whoops |
| 13:46.31 | {g} | jelly: ok |
| 13:46.44 | jelly | no wait |
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| 13:47.04 | jelly | {g}: make that tail -n 101, and keep head -n 200 |
| 13:47.10 | {g} | ok |
| 13:47.40 | EmleyMoor | TFMTOWTDI |
| 13:47.41 | {g} | hey!! how about `head -n 200 | head -n 100` ? |
| 13:47.42 | jelly | head -n 200 <(seq 1 300 | xargs -n1 -iX echo 'line X') | tail -n 101 |
| 13:47.44 | {g} | thats more intuitive |
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| 13:48.01 | jelly | {g}: and it gives you the first 100 lines |
| 13:48.14 | {g} | oh ok its nonsense :) |
| 13:48.27 | jelly | you stated you wanted lines 100-200 (there's 101 of them) |
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| 13:50.10 | j_14 | head -n 200 file | tail -n 101 |
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| 13:50.29 | datenritter | sylar: it's just temporarily marked as inactive or spare or something to speed up the build process.... it's explaned in the mdadm manpage somewhere... it think... |
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| 13:52.17 | {g} | sed -n '100,200p' is the nicest i think. |
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| 13:56.27 | jelly | but if you have a zillion lines, a bit inefficient |
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| 13:59.31 | Evet | Why people choose Ubuntu instead of Debian for servers? |
| 14:00.06 | j_14 | it must be because of the nice splash screen... |
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| 14:01.18 | lsd | haha |
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| 14:05.41 | tamizh_geek | Evet, May be because they don't know to configure debian :) |
| 14:05.54 | oreo | how do i make it so that NTP changes the local clock instantly? |
| 14:06.06 | oreo | NTPd* |
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| 14:06.39 | tamizh_geek | oreo, Not clear. Come again. |
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| 14:06.58 | oreo | reftime=ce3e6ce7.42fb6710 Tue, Aug 25 2009 16:00:07.261, poll=6, |
| 14:06.58 | oreo | clock=ce3e6db4.2f88c531 Tue, Aug 25 2009 16:03:32.185, state=4, |
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| 14:08.27 | oreo | tamizh_geek: get the point? |
| 14:09.10 | tamizh_geek | oreo, Sorry no idea :( |
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| 14:09.29 | oreo | tamizh_geek: do you see what i'm trying to do though? |
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| 14:09.59 | ajavid | good morning world |
| 14:10.06 | tamizh_geek | oreo, Sync-ing them? |
| 14:10.09 | ajavid | eats oreo |
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| 14:10.18 | fronix_ | How does the hostname and host work, im trying to setup my own mailserver but im stuck at the point where i need to get mail.mydomain.com to work |
| 14:10.41 | oreo | tamizh_geek: apparently by default ntpd slowly synchronises the clock; very slowly |
| 14:10.56 | Titan8990_ | fronix_, do you have your MX records properly configured? |
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| 14:11.22 | dehqan | good day everybody , how to install all packages in rep ?with which command ? |
| 14:11.23 | tamizh_geek | oreo, Something weird! No idea. |
| 14:11.30 | fronix_ | No i don't im totaly new to it :S |
| 14:11.43 | oreo | probably does that for log file consistency or whatever |
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| 14:11.51 | Titan8990_ | fronix_, then your in for a LOT of reading... email isn't very simple |
| 14:12.04 | fronix_ | well i have to learn some time |
| 14:12.13 | fronix_ | i found this guide on google -> http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/#abstract |
| 14:12.15 | jelly | dehqan: which repository? If you want to install all the packages available in Debian, that's impossible. |
| 14:12.28 | abrotman | watches jelly walk into the trap |
| 14:12.37 | Titan8990_ | fronix_, the MX records for you FQDN need to point to a URL, which has an A record of its own that will resolve to your mail server |
| 14:12.39 | dehqan | no it is local rep |
| 14:12.41 | tamizh_geek | jelly, Why its impossible? |
| 14:12.47 | dehqan | yes all pack in loc rep |
| 14:12.47 | Holle__ | i get an error: "CSYNC: No space left on device" but there are about 50 mb free. what's the problem? |
| 14:12.57 | abrotman | not enough space? |
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| 14:13.23 | Holle__ | aren't 50 mb enoug? |
| 14:13.23 | Titan8990_ | some space is reserved |
| 14:13.25 | liable | root has bolcks it can use, that users cant |
| 14:13.43 | liable | blocks even |
| 14:13.46 | Holle__ | i am logged on as root |
| 14:13.48 | oreo | fronix_: MX record -> A record -> IP address |
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| 14:14.00 | oreo | it's also wise to have a reverse DNS record |
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| 14:14.27 | zeroConf | dcc's a reverse dns record to the poor bugga |
| 14:14.38 | Holle__ | how could i find packages, that i could remove |
| 14:14.40 | Holle__ | ? |
| 14:14.50 | Holle__ | to get more free space |
| 14:15.03 | liable | aptitude clean |
| 14:15.09 | liable | is a good start |
| 14:15.20 | fronix_ | hmm ok so i shall set up these for example mx1.mydomain.com on my domain? |
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| 14:16.19 | zeroConf | holle - if you just wanna clean out some space jump in /var/ and then rm -rf * you could try the same in a few other directories... you might need to reboot after you delete everythig too.... |
| 14:16.50 | justin | zeroConf: a) never run rm -rf *. b) /var is kind of important |
| 14:17.20 | fronix_ | should the mx1.mydomain.com be dynamic? |
| 14:17.25 | zeroConf | if you go back in time in your own life, and go back to before you were conceived, will you become a sperm or a egg ? |
| 14:17.34 | oreo | fronix_: what do you mean by dynamic? |
| 14:17.39 | fronix_ | ah nvm |
| 14:18.05 | Holle__ | now i have 130 free space and the same problem :/ |
| 14:18.07 | zeroConf | justin - that doesnt sound right, i am sure you can get lots of space from running rm -rf * maybe i had the base directory wrong, should it be / not /var ? |
| 14:18.43 | fronix_ | Ok im done setting up the records now ive added the mail.mydomain.com and mx1.mydomain.com and they point to the server thats going to be the mailserver |
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| 14:19.48 | jelly | zeroConf: deleting everything in /var is disastrous for a Debian system |
| 14:19.57 | abrotman | Holle__: paste `df -h` in a pastebin |
| 14:20.16 | Holle__ | ok, one moment. |
| 14:20.28 | Holle__ | what does CSYNC? |
| 14:20.43 | zeroConf | jelly - so / is better then /var for rm -rf * |
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| 14:20.47 | dehqan | how can install all packages in local rep ?any way ? |
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| 14:21.04 | gaintsura | zeroConf: not in the slightest |
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| 14:21.51 | jelly | zeroConf: please stop trolling |
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| 14:22.27 | zeroConf | ok - stop feeding me |
| 14:22.44 | fronix_ | Could someone just point me how i should setup the host, hostname and mailname files? |
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| 14:23.03 | Holle__ | http://pastebin.com/m623c0db8 |
| 14:23.32 | kristianpaul | is that the same channel in irc.debian.org? |
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| 14:24.53 | abrotman | Holle__: and which package are you installing ? |
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| 14:25.50 | Holle__ | http://www.fastpath.it/products/palantir/ |
| 14:26.25 | Holle__ | i get the tar unpacked it and it runs. but then the next day this erro message. |
| 14:26.44 | Holle__ | does anybody know a webcam streaming software? |
| 14:26.53 | kristianpaul | Holle__: camserv |
| 14:27.00 | kristianpaul | Holle__: simple fastter ! |
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| 14:28.19 | Holle__ | i'll try, but therefore i have to disconnect from the intern i'll be back. |
| 14:28.22 | zeroConf | sends some appologies |
| 14:29.02 | fronix | Did someone reply on my message i got disconnected |
| 14:29.13 | j_14 | is irc.debian.org down? |
| 14:29.40 | Bushmills | dehqan, dpkg -i /path/to/local/rep/*.deb |
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| 14:31.18 | suryan49 | can any one help me out..... |
| 14:31.18 | suryan49 | i hav installed flashplayer for debian ...after dat the synaptic is not opening it is showin n error message |
| 14:31.18 | suryan49 | The error is E: The package adobe-flashplugin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
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| 14:31.54 | suryan49 | when i tried apt-get policy adobe-flashplugin the ouput is http://pastebin.com/m7ded235e |
| 14:32.06 | zeroConf | ok in fairness - for whoever wanted to delete some files - cd / du -h --max-depth=1 then have a look at what is using your hard disk space, and slowley walk about your computer and check it all out..... use cd DIR then do it again, slowley you can find out what is taking up all your drive space.... |
| 14:32.07 | Bushmills | Holle__: ffmpeg2theora can encode, fit for distribution with icecast (which is a stream server) |
| 14:32.15 | tamizh_geek | suryan49, apt-get install -f |
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| 14:32.26 | zeroConf | i think that was Holle__ |
| 14:32.39 | suryan49 | same error E: The package adobe-flashplugin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
| 14:32.43 | jelly | suryan49: this means you installed it manually. the name is the same as Adobe's package for Ubuntu (which is not made to work on Debian) |
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| 14:33.11 | suryan49 | how to find the package then ??? |
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| 14:34.00 | Titan8990_ | we have no idea, you installed it |
| 14:34.12 | \amethyst | suryan49: flashplugin-nonfree is the package you're looking for, in sid, squeeze, and lenny-backports (not lenny itself) |
| 14:34.17 | xayon | I've seen lately an increment of people complaining about flash's debs from adobe not working on debian... =( why does people not try the repos first? or even better, why does people use flash? |
| 14:34.25 | jelly | suryan49: you'll have to remove it, and install a package for Debian instead... there's one in /msg dpkg dmm |
| 14:34.35 | Holle___ | kristianpaul: how to configure camserv? |
| 14:34.47 | \amethyst | suryan49: you'll need contrib in your sources.list, as well as backports.org if you use lenny |
| 14:34.54 | jelly | !adobe flash |
| 14:34.54 | dpkg | Adobe Flash Player is <non-free> and cannot be in a stable Debian release because Adobe doesn't provide security support for older versions (see http://bugs.debian.org/457291). The easiest way to install flash is with the flashplayer-mozilla package from <debian-multimedia.org>; there is also a flashplugin-nonfree package for sid and backports.org users. Ask me about <dmm> <non-free> <bpo> <flash64beta> http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
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| 14:35.22 | dehqan | thanks bushmills if it is possible send me ur email |
| 14:36.15 | Bushmills | dehqan: what for? |
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| 14:37.55 | Holle___ | camserv says: bind(): Address already in use |
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| 14:38.41 | suryan49 | but the package is workin ofr debian also |
| 14:39.13 | suryan49 | with this error |
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| 14:41.11 | Holle___ | how could i see the stream? via browser? |
| 14:41.23 | \amethyst | suryan49: which is one of the ways in which a package might not work... you'll have to try to dpkg -i the package again to fix it |
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| 14:41.40 | \amethyst | suryan49: that should either fix it, or give you an error message about why it cannot be fixed |
| 14:42.08 | Holle___ | nobody can help me with camserv? |
| 14:42.19 | \amethyst | suryan49: at the very worst you can do dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq adobe-flashplugin |
| 14:42.49 | ajavid | no |
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| 14:44.25 | gaintsura | hm I think I've got it... apic=off instead of force |
| 14:44.38 | fronix | omg there is not a soul that can help me |
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| 14:45.15 | suryan49 | after tryin dpkg -r --force ----- tghe output is http://pastebin.com/me86966c |
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| 14:45.33 | gaintsura | fronix: quickly, go get satan some toast and eggies for satan will eat your soul with toast and eggies for breakfast!!!! |
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| 14:45.58 | fronix | yeah |
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| 14:46.41 | ajavid | http://wiki.debian.org/Network |
| 14:46.44 | Holle___ | dows anybody know a nother webcam streaming program an could help to configure it? |
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| 14:47.06 | djahandarie | xscreensaver seems to be complaining that XFree86-Misc doesn't exist, I tried googling it and nothing there helps |
| 14:47.12 | ajavid | fronix, http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/ChangeHostname |
| 14:47.50 | ajavid | fronix, http://wiki.debian.org/MailQuestions |
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| 14:47.54 | fronix | Thankyou |
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| 14:48.07 | ajavid | those three links should do you good |
| 14:48.12 | ajavid | !networking |
| 14:48.13 | dpkg | methinks networking is at http://www.fokus.gmd.de/linux/HOWTO/Net-HOWTO/ , http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Networking-Overview-HOWTO.html and "man interfaces". ##networking @ irc.freenode.net. |
| 14:48.20 | ajavid | nm |
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| 14:49.08 | abrotman | Holle___: apt-cache search webcam stream |
| 14:49.11 | OldMonk | anyone know what cause this? aptitude -R install <some-package> \n E: Unable to parse package file /etc/apt/preferences (1) |
| 14:49.25 | abrotman | your preferences file is munged ? |
| 14:49.35 | OldMonk | it's a load of comments now |
| 14:50.13 | OldMonk | # <- i presume that's comment in the file? |
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| 14:50.19 | OldMonk | the man doesn't say |
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| 14:50.37 | hyperthing | Hello, how can I add unicode support to a terminal I can only access through ssh? |
| 14:51.06 | valdyn | hyperthing: the terminal is your local thing |
| 14:51.28 | OldMonk | weird -- i uncommented and now it's fixed itself |
| 14:51.28 | hyperthing | valdyn: I'm aware the question might not make much sense |
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| 14:51.32 | cognitiaclaeves | I have a large number of cron jobs that I want to run, splitting the jobs on odd and even minutes. I figure even can be specified with */2, but how do I specify "run every odd minute" ? |
| 14:51.47 | hyperthing | valdyn: the situation is, basically, I connect to a remote machine, and unicode characters aren't shown |
| 14:51.55 | justin | cognitiaclaeves: add sleep 60;? |
| 14:52.00 | OldMonk | hyperthing: what's LANG set to on the remote system? |
| 14:52.02 | hyperthing | valdyn: while on my local machine it works perfectly |
| 14:52.03 | valdyn | !locale |
| 14:52.03 | dpkg | i guess locale is set your own locale in your shell rc files, or dpkg-reconfigure locales, or see /etc/default/locale, or run apropos locale (mainly for programmers) |
| 14:52.16 | ajavid | OldMonk, try // |
| 14:52.32 | OldMonk | ajavid: it's working now, with a few lines #'d out |
| 14:52.34 | valdyn | hyperthing: that means that the locale in that remote *shell* does not match your local *terminal* |
| 14:52.35 | cognitiaclaeves | justin: I'm not sure what you mean there. |
| 14:52.37 | ajavid | !dbugs #189866 |
| 14:52.42 | dpkg | DONE:#189866:M[apt] Please allow '#' comments in /etc/apt/preferences (patch); Sun, 14 Oct 2001 03:33:01 UTC [374654 433623] |
| 14:52.49 | ajavid | 2001 :) |
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| 14:53.32 | valdyn | hyperthing: maybe that cleared up for you what the terminal is |
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| 14:53.48 | OldMonk | there was also a 'echo >> /etc/apt/preferences' fix sometime for the same problem :) |
| 14:54.07 | hyperthing | valdyn: let me see what the locale is |
| 14:54.21 | hyperthing | valdyn: but I seem to remember that $LANG wasn't set at all |
| 14:54.41 | valdyn | hyperthing: proves my point |
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| 14:54.48 | mrfree | hi all |
| 14:54.52 | mrfree | I'm using live-helper |
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| 14:55.29 | OldMonk | hyperthing: try setting $LANG to a UTF-8 locale on the remote |
| 14:55.37 | gostfaced | hello |
| 14:55.54 | ajavid | So you can use/write comments and newlines n-times before, between and Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:02:39 +0000 |
| 14:55.55 | mrfree | I'm on an amd64 arch but I want to build a i386 iso image, so I used lh_config --architecture i386 this command modify the config file correctly but the lh_build seems to ignore the setting and build amd64 image |
| 14:55.59 | ajavid | Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:02:39 +0000 |
| 14:56.13 | valdyn | hyperthing: you need to set it to an UTF-8 locale. That locale might have to be generated first ( dpkg-reconfigure locales ) |
| 14:56.15 | ajavid | We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of apt, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive: |
| 14:56.22 | gostfaced | how do i get admin access, whenever i try to save a file it says i dont ave the permission, even though i have root |
| 14:56.28 | ajavid | OldMonk, looks good in sid |
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| 14:57.24 | OldMonk | ajavid: testing here, this happened just now after i safe-upgraded |
| 14:57.24 | Tommy\DO | is anybody successfully using the performance control provided by eee-control on an eeepc 901? I can't change neither fsb nor cpu voltage settings. I'm using lenny with kernel 2.6.30 from lenny-backports. (it also didn't work with the generic 2.6.26 from lenny) |
| 14:57.49 | cognitiaclaeves | Is there a channel for cron? |
| 14:57.55 | valdyn | Tommy\DO: you are sure it does not need a special driver? |
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| 14:58.18 | OldMonk | new versions: apt-utils 0.7.21, aptitude 0.4.11.11-1+b1 |
| 14:58.42 | hyperthing | valdyn: here we go... "LANG=POSIX" |
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| 14:58.53 | suryan49 | for installing the flashplayer for debian from adobe.com/flashplayer wat shuld we do with the libflashplayer.so |
| 14:59.18 | ajavid | suryan49, throw it in ~/.mozilla/plugins |
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| 14:59.26 | hyperthing | valdyn: alright |
| 14:59.28 | ajavid | suryan49, restart bruiser |
| 14:59.38 | Computer | How do I install one of these live usb-hdd .img files onto a usb drive? |
| 14:59.39 | Tommy\DO | valdyn: i2c-dev is used, and i successfully modprobe'd it. |
| 14:59.47 | hyperthing | valdyn: the machine is in production right now, so I can't just spontaneously reconfigure, but thanks all the same :) |
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| 15:00.01 | ramo102 | Hi all, I have some problems with compiz, I'm running squeeze and |
| 15:00.04 | gostfaced | is there a way to set my profile to admin, or do i have to do everything though the root terminal? |
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| 15:00.21 | ajavid | !sudo |
| 15:00.21 | dpkg | [sudo] (Substitute User DO) better than su, according to talon. It is able to give limited super user privileges to specific users, or can allow you to do silly things like run X apps with root perms, or good in scripts with "username ALL = NOPASSWD: /some/program", or http://www.aplawrence.com/Basics/sudo.html, or you need to setup /etc/sudoers first before you can use it, ask me about <visudo>. http://wiki.debian.org/sudo |
| 15:00.25 | ajavid | gostfaced, ^^ |
| 15:00.56 | ramo102 | first: if I try to run "compiz --replace", I obtain a lot of errors like: /usr/bin/compiz.real (ini) - Warn: Could not open main display config file ~/.compiz/options/general-allscreens.conf |
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| 15:01.20 | ramo102 | the ~/.compiz dir does not exist |
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| 15:02.13 | ramo102 | second: I cannot install the compiz-gnome package, unmet dependencies for compiz-gnome: libgnome-desktop-2 (>= 2.22.0) and libmetacity0 (>= 1:2.22.0) |
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| 15:02.23 | karme | mrfree: did not use live-helper for quite some time - but maybe you first had a different config and have to run lh_clean? otherwise using lh_build --verbose --debug might help |
| 15:02.25 | ajavid | ramo102, what do you expect from unstable? |
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| 15:02.32 | ajavid | testing/unstable. |
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| 15:02.47 | ajavid | ramo102, you want it to be stable and work? Its unstable. |
| 15:02.55 | ramo102 | I expect testing to be "somewhat stable", as always |
| 15:03.00 | ajavid | don't. |
| 15:03.05 | ajavid | oh testing... sure |
| 15:03.11 | gostfaced | so theres no way to set admin access? |
| 15:03.14 | ajavid | ramo102, check the BTS first |
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| 15:03.24 | ajavid | gostfaced, I just told you. |
| 15:03.35 | mrfree | karme, I try... |
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| 15:04.09 | karme | mrfree: and maybe take a closer look at the files in config/ |
| 15:04.20 | ramo102 | ajavid, what is BTS? |
| 15:04.40 | ajavid | You shouldn't be using testing. |
| 15:04.42 | OldMonk | gostfaced: you can use su or sudo to run commands as "admin" (root) |
| 15:04.47 | ajavid | !tell ramo102 -about bts |
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| 15:05.50 | suryan49 | when i'm opening synaptic i'm geting the error E: The package adobe-flashplugin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
| 15:05.57 | suryan49 | can anyone help me out plzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 15:06.14 | ramo102 | ah, ok |
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| 15:06.29 | ajavid | \amethyst, told you |
| 15:06.33 | ajavid | suryan49, |
| 15:06.51 | mrfree | karme, ok I had to set LH_LINUX_FLAVOURS="486" too ;) |
| 15:06.56 | hyperthing | suyryan49: do yo have non-free in your repository list? |
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| 15:07.00 | suryan49 | it didn't work |
| 15:07.06 | Titan8990_ | suryan49, do you think if you keep asking something will change? |
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| 15:07.33 | Titan8990_ | hyperthing, adobe flash is in backports, not non-free |
| 15:08.12 | OldMonk | suryan49: did you apt-get update (or reload in synaptic)? |
| 15:08.18 | hyperthing | Titan8990_: really? wouldn't know, don't have it installed. Last time I did I think it was on non-free though. I guess I'm a bit behind times haha |
| 15:08.40 | suryan49 | yeah i'v updated it |
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| 15:09.26 | ajavid | suryan49, where did you get this adobe package?> |
| 15:09.37 | suryan49 | http://adobe.com |
| 15:09.40 | ajavid | suryan49, apt-cache policy whatever_your_packagename_is |
| 15:09.44 | OldMonk | flashplugin-nonfree: 990 http://ftp.fi.debian.org testing/contrib Packages here |
| 15:09.44 | suryan49 | my repo's list is http://pastebin.com/mca4f803 |
| 15:10.23 | suryan49 | for apt-policy http://pastebin.com/m7ded235e |
| 15:10.35 | ramo102 | Can I compile compiz from source? |
| 15:10.38 | ramo102 | Can I download and compile compiz-gnome only, or have I to compile compiz entirely? |
| 15:10.47 | OldMonk | suryan49: try flashplugin-nonfree |
| 15:10.51 | ajavid | ok |
| 15:10.57 | ajavid | suryan49, 1) fix your sources.list |
| 15:11.07 | ajavid | suryan49, you have testing + etch security |
| 15:11.17 | ramo102 | BTS seems not to mention my problem |
| 15:11.41 | ajavid | suryan49, remove testing, replace with 'squeeze', remove etch, replace with squeeze, aptitude update, aptitude upgrade |
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| 15:12.02 | ajavid | suryan49, after that try to manually remove that adobe package like aptitude purge whatever_pkg_name |
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| 15:12.54 | j_14 | ramo102: compiz-gnome and compiz-core come from the same source package. |
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| 15:14.53 | suryan49 | wat is this squeeze ???? |
| 15:15.00 | ajavid | !squeeze |
| 15:15.00 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the next release. It is the three-eyed space alien. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/09/msg00000.html Ask me about <testing>. Not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze. Expected to be released in early 2010, see http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090729 Will be known as Debian 6.0. |
| 15:15.05 | hyperthing | >.< |
| 15:15.26 | hyperthing | suryan49: how long have you been using debian? |
| 15:15.30 | ramo102 | j_14, are these repositories correct? http://pastebin.com/d76d6df6b |
| 15:15.45 | suryan49 | 1 year' |
| 15:15.59 | ajavid | ramo102, don't use 3rd party packages |
| 15:16.11 | ajavid | ramo102, don't ask us to support 3rd party non-official debs |
| 15:16.13 | ajavid | please. |
| 15:16.33 | ramo102 | Which are official repositories for compiz? |
| 15:16.42 | ramo102 | ajavid, ok, I'm sorry |
| 15:16.42 | ajavid | ramo102, use compiz from debian repositories official, have problems, come to us. otherwise go to #compiz-fusion |
| 15:16.43 | j_14 | ramo102, i've never used anything other than debian repos |
| 15:16.59 | j_14 | ramo102, debian already has compiz |
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| 15:17.04 | ajavid | !compiz |
| 15:17.04 | dpkg | Compiz is a compositing window manager using OpenGL for rendering. It can run when <AIGLX> and the composite extension are enabled for your X server; see http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz for installation, configuration and usage details. Current state of Compiz (et al) in unstable can be found at http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/Compiz . http://www.compiz.org/ #compiz on irc.freenode.net. |
| 15:17.24 | hyperthing | !sarge |
| 15:17.24 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for Debian version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Sarge security support ended on 2008-03-31, this release is no longer supported. Sarge users should upgrade to Etch, ask me about <sarge->etch>. Removed from the mirrors; ask me about <archive>, <sarge sources.list>. Get old Sarge ISOs here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.1_r8/ http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSarge |
| 15:17.29 | brbrbr | o.O |
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| 15:17.46 | brbrbr | bookmarked |
| 15:18.06 | hyperthing | !sarge->etch |
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| 15:18.28 | ajavid | !dpkgbot |
| 15:18.28 | dpkg | Please visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively search the factoids database for FAQ, and not flood in the channel with !tell <who> about <what>. Also ask me about <msg the bot>. We ask that you learn to search for yourself first, unless it is a specific problem. Many questions are asked repeatedly, and the factoid database can be of great help to you. Ask me about <search dpkg>. |
| 15:18.31 | ajavid | !msg the bot |
| 15:18.31 | dpkg | Please message the bot... not doing so could be considered an unnecessary flood. Instead of typing "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" you can just type "/msg dpkg <topic>". See also <selftell>. Also visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively use the factoids database, or ask me about <bot help> <help> |
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| 15:18.54 | _budo | running debian lenny xfce and panel manager disappeared |
| 15:19.12 | simonrvn | hit alt-f2 and type xfce4-panel |
| 15:19.18 | ajavid | _budo, look for the xfpanel4 process I think or is it |
| 15:19.19 | ajavid | nm |
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| 15:19.28 | ajavid | i guess they changed the name to xfce4-panel |
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| 15:19.53 | ajavid | simonrvn, hi :) |
| 15:20.02 | simonrvn | kwe |
| 15:20.04 | _budo | ok. thanks |
| 15:20.16 | hyperthing | just out of curiosity, what debian version are you all using? (stable, testing, combination...) |
| 15:20.21 | _budo | what happened? is it going to disappear again ? |
| 15:20.25 | ajavid | hyperthing, all of them. |
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| 15:20.43 | ajavid | _budo, who knows. look in ~/.xsession-errors |
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| 15:21.10 | hyperthing | ajavid: at the same time? :p |
| 15:21.15 | ajavid | hyperthing, yes |
| 15:21.27 | lomba | Hola |
| 15:21.41 | ajavid | hyperthing, and a couple of other os which can't run in a chroot ;) |
| 15:21.50 | j_14 | hyperthing: stable |
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| 15:21.59 | ajavid | !polls |
| 15:21.59 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a valid question. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls>. |
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| 15:23.02 | hyperthing | my question was, is there a way to make gnome-panel behave when using multi-head setups? |
| 15:23.12 | _budo | ** (xfce4-panel:2561): WARNING **: xfce4-panel is not running |
| 15:23.23 | ajavid | hyperthing, does it support multihead?: |
| 15:23.35 | ajavid | I doubt it |
| 15:23.49 | _budo | what created the error? i did not modify anything. |
| 15:23.57 | ajavid | hyperthing, I'm talking about a windows xp/vista software called 'ultramon' |
| 15:24.08 | hyperthing | ajavid, basically I want the laptop screen to keep the panel, not the other output |
| 15:24.13 | ajavid | hyperthing, that 2 seperate taskbars with only the windows on that screen |
| 15:24.20 | ajavid | hyperthing, that is not in kde3.5 or in gnome afaik |
| 15:24.25 | ajavid | I could be wrong |
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| 15:24.43 | ajavid | hyperthing, I dunno, maybe they added a option i dunno |
| 15:25.07 | ajavid | hyperthing, irc.gnome.org #gnome or #debian-gnome oftc |
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| 15:25.35 | ajavid | hyperthing, I have 2x 24" |
| 15:26.02 | ajavid | hyperthing, I want 2 seperate taskbars, one on each monito |
| 15:26.06 | gaintsura | :( exaile doesn't work with my media buttons |
| 15:26.17 | ajavid | gaintsura, /msg dpkg keytouch |
| 15:26.24 | j_14 | hyperthing: i have the same problem, i just move it when it starts up, i don't really mind |
| 15:26.38 | ajavid | gaintsura, configure them to, i think keytouch has a plugin for exaile, i know it does for xmms and amarok |
| 15:26.56 | ajavid | gaintsura, if not you can manually configure the button to send a signal |
| 15:28.28 | hyperthing | ajavid: I guess creating additional panels and adding the necessary *thingies* to it would work :p |
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| 15:29.00 | hyperthing | j_14: yeah, well I'm using testing and for some reason, when gnome-panel is set to Expand, you can't drag them |
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| 15:29.15 | hyperthing | j_14: really annoying, that, and it has a couple of other rather annoying bugs |
| 15:29.24 | suryan49 | i'm still gettin the same error http://pastebin.com/m7ded235e |
| 15:29.26 | gaintsura_ | network cable :( |
| 15:29.30 | gaintsura_ | thx ajavid |
| 15:29.42 | hyperthing | j_14: I should learn how to properly use autotools and git so I could try to hack a bit har har har |
| 15:29.57 | suryan49 | after doing remove also http://pastebin.com/me86966c |
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| 15:30.29 | j_14 | hyperthing: well, you can delete it and create a new one, but that would be super annoying... |
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| 15:30.38 | Without | hi.. what's the command to check how much connection are connected ? |
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| 15:31.00 | hyperthing | j_14: yes it is, but you can still drag if it's NOT set to expand |
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| 15:31.25 | suryan49 | after purging the adobe-flashplugin http://pastebin.com/d3953b54a |
| 15:31.33 | hyperthing | j_14: then you just gotta remember to set them to expand again, otherwise when you kill the alternative output, gnome-panel crashes and you gotta delete its configuration for it to work again |
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| 15:32.31 | bluethundr___ | for some reason I can load the url for dtcadmin in lynx from the local host but not when I go to another client on the same subnet from firefox... clues? |
| 15:33.21 | j_14 | Without: i think you're looking for netstat |
| 15:34.00 | llutz | Without: or lsof -i |
| 15:34.27 | hyperthing | Without: netstat -n | head |
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| 15:35.48 | Without | hyperthing: i want the exactly connection connected.. not shows the ip |
| 15:35.55 | Without | i mean how much* |
| 15:36.49 | keith4 | can anyone suggest a small, packaged GUI java app that I can use to test functionality of java X libs? |
| 15:36.56 | hyperthing | Without: netstat -n | egrep '^tcp|^udp' | wc -l |
| 15:37.01 | hyperthing | Without: hahaha maybe |
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| 15:37.56 | Without | yep it's :) tq |
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| 15:38.36 | nootoyahora | hello to everyone |
| 15:39.05 | hyperthing | Without: haha no problem |
| 15:39.41 | nootoyahora | when I start gnome I got the next window: "There was an error starting the gnome settings daemon" and more things, what's going on? I'm using debian testing |
| 15:40.18 | Without | hyperthing: may i know the command banning ip's ? |
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| 15:43.27 | suryan49 | the output on purging the adobe-flashplugin is http://pastebin.com/d4712459d |
| 15:43.38 | JordiGH | How do I figure out what's the fourth number in the Linux version? |
| 15:43.40 | hyperthing | nootoyahora: Happens to me as well. There's a bug report about it, I suggest you look it up. Apparently, it's caused because of some steps being done in incorrect order, but it doesn't cause any problems, so don't worry. |
| 15:44.03 | hyperthing | Without: I think iptables would be useful for that. I don't know how to use it though, sorry :( |
| 15:44.20 | nootoyahora | hyperthing, how can I find that bug report? |
| 15:44.31 | suryan49 | HOW TO REMOVE THE PACKAGE BY REINSTALLING IT ???? |
| 15:44.40 | valdyn | suryan49: install it |
| 15:44.41 | hyperthing | nootoyahora: google? :-P |
| 15:44.48 | valdyn | suryan49: the same way you installed it first |
| 15:44.55 | hyperthing | nootoyahora: or go to (I think) bugzilla.gnome.org and search for the description |
| 15:45.20 | suryan49 | k will try.... |
| 15:45.21 | Without | hyperthing: my iptables is not working.. |
| 15:45.36 | ajavid | suryan49, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/adobe-flashplugin/+bug/371890 |
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| 15:45.50 | ajavid | suryan49, this is what happens when you use ubuntu shit on debian |
| 15:45.54 | ajavid | STOP DOING THAT! |
| 15:46.25 | suryan49 | k... |
| 15:46.32 | valdyn | that bug is more like someone tried to install two flash debs at once |
| 15:46.44 | hyperthing | Without: what's the problem? |
| 15:47.20 | ajavid | suryan49 dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq adobe-flashplugin |
| 15:47.26 | Without | hyperthing: ok 1st.. how use iptable to ban ip's ? |
| 15:48.01 | hyperthing | Without: for that, you'll have to go to someone more experienced than I, young grasshopper |
| 15:48.30 | Without | okays |
| 15:48.36 | suryan49 | the output is http://pastebin.com/d36b95ae6 |
| 15:49.08 | ajavid | ok |
| 15:49.40 | dutchfish | Without, something like iptables -D INPUT -s xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -j DROP |
| 15:49.44 | suryan49 | shuld i re-install how i hav installed earlier ???? |
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| 15:50.24 | dutchfish | Without, but remember this rule will not sustain over reboots |
| 15:51.14 | ajavid | suryan49, no |
| 15:51.40 | suryan49 | ok.. |
| 15:52.15 | ajavid | hangon |
| 15:52.26 | suryan49 | k.. |
| 15:53.03 | dutchfish | Without, something like iptables -I INPUT -s xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx -j DROP (I for making, use D to rmeove the rule) |
| 15:53.16 | fronix | whats the command for mysqladmin to login via shell? |
| 15:53.27 | fronix | its something like mysqladmin -u root -p |
| 15:53.37 | fronix | but it aint working :S |
| 15:53.49 | Without | dutchfish: iptables: Bad rule (does a matching rule exist in that chain?) |
| 15:54.16 | hyperthing | fronix: what's the error msg? |
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| 15:54.35 | fronix | alot of text |
| 15:54.56 | dutchfish | Without, -D i for removing the rule -I for making it |
| 15:55.02 | ajavid | suryan49, I would assume... taking a peek in /var/lib/dpkg/info/adobe-flashplugin.prerm |
| 15:55.05 | CodeNinja | fronix: mysqladmin is not meant to have a login |
| 15:55.11 | Without | okays got it |
| 15:55.14 | fronix | yes it is |
| 15:55.27 | ajavid | suryan49, I don't have time right now to grab the package and look at the script |
| 15:55.42 | ajavid | suryan49, I imagine the update-alternatives call is in that script, you can comment it out |
| 15:55.48 | ajavid | suryan49, try to remove the package again |
| 15:55.58 | CodeNinja | :( Lockups still continue, apic=force and apic=off did not work |
| 15:56.02 | fronix | nvm i fixed it =) |
| 15:56.10 | fronix | it was mysql -u root -p |
| 15:56.16 | CodeNinja | exactly |
| 15:56.17 | CodeNinja | :P |
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| 15:56.22 | CodeNinja | mysqladmin does not have a login |
| 15:56.27 | suryan49 | i didn't get xactly |
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| 15:57.32 | ajavid | if [ "$1" = "remove" ] || [ "$1" = "deconfigure" ]; then update-alternatives |
| 15:57.36 | ajavid | something like that |
| 15:57.42 | ajavid | suryan49, just edit the prerm script |
| 15:57.45 | CalJohn | Why does SVN complain it can't connect to a server when I can get access to it though firefox just fine? |
| 15:57.51 | CalJohn | *iceweasel |
| 15:58.02 | ajavid | suryan49, when debian package is removed, the prerm (pre removal) script runs and checks for update-alternatives |
| 15:58.03 | syslq78_ | What is the most "proper" way of installing python 2.6.x on lenny? |
| 15:58.06 | ajavid | just comment those lines out |
| 15:58.07 | CodeNinja | CalJohn: permissions problem? |
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| 15:58.10 | syslq78_ | It's not in the repo |
| 15:58.24 | CalJohn | CodeNinja: "could not connect to server (https://subversion.cs.uu.nl)" |
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| 15:58.51 | CalJohn | CodeNinja: do permissions problems give that error? |
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| 15:58.52 | CalJohn | (I've not used svn much beforE) |
| 15:58.54 | CodeNinja | CalJohn: I don't think so |
| 15:58.56 | ajavid | suryan49, does that make sense? |
| 15:59.08 | CodeNinja | CalJohn: is it your svn server or someone elses? |
| 15:59.09 | ajavid | suryan49, i know its a bit complicated than usual, but its just a bash script |
| 15:59.18 | CalJohn | someone elses |
| 15:59.44 | CalJohn | it's not a giant deal, i can just get someone else to make the commit |
| 16:00.29 | CodeNinja | thats bad for an SVN server.. perhaps you need a user/pass ? |
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| 16:00.38 | CalJohn | i think it's because the port is blocked |
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| 16:00.48 | CalJohn | svn does runs on 3690, not 80 |
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| 16:01.20 | suryan49 | will look at it thnx a lot ...... |
| 16:01.49 | ajavid | suryan49, just pastebin the whole script |
| 16:02.01 | ajavid | suryan49, /var/lib/dpkg/info/adobe-flashplugin.prerm |
| 16:02.38 | dutchfish | CalJohn, https://subversion.cs.uu.nl/index.php?login=1 ;) |
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| 16:03.48 | suryan49 | the script is http://pastebin.com/d29685849 |
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| 16:06.23 | Evet | im using 2.6.26-2 on lenny, do you recommend kernel upgrade? |
| 16:06.25 | ajavid | suryan49, comment lines 19-53, save, try remove again |
| 16:06.50 | ajavid | suryan49, actually |
| 16:06.52 | ajavid | suryan49, hang on |
| 16:06.56 | Without | how can i upgrade my kernel? may i know the latest version? i'm on lenny |
| 16:07.00 | ajavid | suryan49, don't do that yet |
| 16:07.22 | ajavid | suryan49, $VARIANTS="" |
| 16:07.36 | ajavid | blank that and try again, or on console export $VARIANTS="" |
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| 16:07.49 | ajavid | and then try remove (just an idea, im not a guru packager) |
| 16:07.55 | ajavid | yet... anyway |
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| 16:08.10 | j_14 | ajavid: shouldnt he leave the variant that matches what he has? |
| 16:08.11 | suryan49 | wer shuld i keep $variants ??? |
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| 16:08.40 | ajavid | j_14, no, trying to remove this pacakge |
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| 16:10.48 | j_14 | ajavid: i mean if he should leave $VARIANTS= "whatever he has" and then attempt to remove the package |
| 16:11.34 | ajavid | j_14, I was thinking no |
| 16:11.47 | ajavid | j_14, reason being, it prevents him from being able to remvoe the pacakge |
| 16:12.02 | ajavid | j_14, I want him to remove this package, and settings variants to blank or commenting out that section will do that |
| 16:12.11 | ajavid | j_14, we are trying to disable the update-alternative calls just right now |
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| 16:12.23 | ajavid | j_14, after which, he can simply rm /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so |
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| 16:12.58 | ajavid | j_14, then he will be alright, well before he can rm (if need be) he'd have to remove the package |
| 16:13.28 | ajavid | j_14, i haven't yet looked at the other script in this piece of shit package from ubuntu |
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| 16:13.40 | ajavid | suryan49, and don't ever install another ubuntu package on your debian system.. ever. |
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| 16:13.56 | suryan49 | yeah got a very very gud lesson |
| 16:14.15 | ajavid | suryan49, also, know that you will NEVER find this kind of in depth support in #ubuntu |
| 16:14.18 | ajavid | :) |
| 16:14.36 | ajavid | they'll tell you to reboot! i think. |
| 16:14.59 | suryan49 | :-D |
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| 16:16.29 | seria-mau | is there another way to tackle driveready seekcomplete errors in 2.6.28+ kernels? |
| 16:16.55 | seria-mau | because i get them on 2.6.30 and config_idedisk_multi_mode is gone |
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| 16:18.28 | ajavid | suryan49, dont msg me |
| 16:18.41 | ajavid | suryan49, i told you what to do |
| 16:18.54 | ajavid | suryan49, unfortunately I have to leave |
| 16:19.16 | stonk | hi there. My lenny box is failing to boot stating that mdadm.conf does not specify any arrays, however I've just booted into a live environment and it certainly does. I've checked menu.lst, fstab and mdadm.conf and they correlate. Any ideas? Thanks |
| 16:19.37 | suryan49 | k..... once again thnx a lot buddy....... |
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| 16:20.16 | ajavid | Atir Javid wget -O - http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.txt | grep 127.0.0.1 | sed -e '2,$s/127.0.0.1/0.0.0.0/g' -e 's/[[:space:]]*#.*$//' > hosts; sort hosts | uniq > hosts.unique.sorted; cat hosts.unique.sorted >> /etc/hosts |
| 16:20.30 | ajavid | I was fucking around with some hosts based adblocking... enjoy. |
| 16:20.38 | dutchfish | seria-mau, for what it helps: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-2.6.30.y.git;a=commit;h=7c51c17e0431d2f26bc23ee07de12eafb125ce83 |
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| 16:20.58 | ajavid | entire command may not be 100% accurate, my regex sucks and uhm... also my bash scripting |
| 16:21.01 | ajavid | :D |
| 16:21.07 | ajavid | *afk* |
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| 16:23.15 | papul | hi. after i install the base system what do i hav to install to get the gui/ |
| 16:23.33 | dutchfish | papul, depend on what you want |
| 16:24.07 | papul | dutchfish, i want gnome |
| 16:24.34 | adb | xorg gdm gnome-core |
| 16:24.41 | dutchfish | papul, well, one of the possibilities aptitude install gnome |
| 16:24.49 | cydork | !install gnome |
| 16:24.50 | dpkg | To install GNOME on sarge or later, install the 'gnome' package to install everything, the 'gnome-desktop-environment' package for slightly less stuff, or the 'gnome-core' package for even less. You will need X installed as well, ask me about <install x>. http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome |
| 16:24.58 | azm | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=12256 papul |
| 16:25.15 | papul | dutchfish, is there no apt-get? |
| 16:25.37 | dutchfish | papul, yes there still is but aptitude is preffered |
| 16:25.38 | papul | and how much data s download to install a base system? |
| 16:25.38 | adb | papul: use for now aptitude |
| 16:25.46 | papul | ok |
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| 16:27.23 | ajavid | suryan49, blank line #19 to say VARIANTS="" |
| 16:27.32 | brbrbr | how to prevent kexec reboot temporally ? |
| 16:27.43 | ajavid | suryan49, save and try to remove package using aptitude purge adobe-blahdla |
| 16:27.50 | ajavid | blahblah |
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| 16:31.23 | ajavid | c'mon man I gotta leave soon... |
| 16:31.29 | racecar56 | bugreport is flaky -_- |
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| 16:34.22 | coreGrl | hi |
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| 16:34.42 | coreGrl | After a mdadm update I can't rebuild md device.. any hint? |
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| 16:35.25 | racecar56 | found a bug in the bug reporter :P |
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| 16:35.47 | racecar56 | what's the email to send bugs to? |
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| 16:36.48 | racecar56 | anyway, is debian.org down? |
| 16:37.20 | dutchfish | racecar56, it depends on the package, you can find it by aptitude show [package-name] |
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| 16:38.09 | racecar56 | dutchfish: kk, send to maintainer? |
| 16:38.41 | racecar56 | dutchfish: and it's generated with bugreport but it can't send the bug so it generated that file |
| 16:38.42 | dutchfish | racecar56, normally yes, but first check if the bug is already reported |
| 16:39.04 | racecar56 | dutchfish: there is one that looks like it could be but my internet is very flaky so i can't get much done |
| 16:39.39 | racecar56 | dutchfish: ahh actually it's debian's server O_o |
| 16:39.39 | dutchfish | racecar56, cant help you with your connection .... |
| 16:39.49 | racecar56 | dutchfish: is debian.org down for you too? |
| 16:40.10 | dutchfish | racecar56, nope |
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| 16:40.21 | racecar56 | dutchfish: then it is my internet, figures |
| 16:40.38 | j_14 | racecar56: debian.org works for me |
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| 16:40.45 | racecar56 | i'm going to see if a router power cycle helps |
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| 16:41.26 | coreGrl | I've two disc partitioned as autodetected raid partition, but mdadm fails can I try to mount one of them manully? |
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| 16:41.41 | rcbarnes | I can't get any application to bind to ports on localhost. Google (or my search string there) is of little help. Where do I start diagnosing this problem (URLs or improved search results welcome, of course). |
| 16:42.02 | hyperthing | rcbarnes: are they restricted ports? (<1024) |
| 16:42.09 | dutchfish | rcbarnes, is lo up? |
| 16:42.16 | coreGrl | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:42.16 | coreGrl | ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=066bb00b:6f8c3c84:c518b161:9671d7e3 |
| 16:42.16 | rcbarnes | hyperthing: no, they're not restricted |
| 16:42.21 | coreGrl | so it seems ok |
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| 16:42.34 | rcbarnes | dutchfish: Oh... It's not. |
| 16:42.54 | wm4 | apparently, the package vche was removed in debian unstable; it was a hex editor; is there a good replacement? |
| 16:42.55 | dutchfish | rcbarnes, there you go fix /etc/network/interfaces ... rince and repat |
| 16:43.14 | dutchfish | s/repat/repeat |
| 16:43.26 | hyperthing | s/\<repat\>/repeat |
| 16:43.46 | dutchfish | hyperthing, thank you |
| 16:43.53 | hyperthing | dutchfish: welcome haha |
| 16:43.56 | rcbarnes | dutchfish: thanks |
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| 16:44.04 | dutchfish | rcbarnes, yw |
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| 16:45.24 | iloveyou | Will "Bad Things(tm)" happen if I use different versions of git to keep something synced between two computers? |
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| 16:45.55 | dutchfish | iloveyou, not if you carefully configured the git repo |
| 16:46.05 | action09 | oy |
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| 16:47.31 | iloveyou | dutchfish: how do you mean, carefully configured? Will I have to change things much from the defaults? |
| 16:47.33 | dehqan | good day everybody ; while removing libxml2 ,many other packages have been removed from system and now system is corrupted ,is there any way to find out names of those packages that have been removed ? |
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| 16:48.10 | dokma | Hey guys. I'm trying to share a CUPS printer without Samba. http://localhost:631/printers/D1560 is accessible while http://192.168.1.2:631/printers/D1560 is not. I added Listen *:631 to cupsd.conf but no change. Any ideas? |
| 16:48.12 | hyperthing | dehqan: that really shouldn't have happened o.o Isn't that what apt is for? |
| 16:48.39 | dutchfish | iloveyou, normally not, but it depends on your content, if no binaries and you have setup the standard things like exclusions, the git is very forgiving |
| 16:49.00 | dokma | dehqan: install libxml2 and all packages that depend, suggest and recommend libxml2 for starters |
| 16:49.56 | dokma | aptitude does not have undo atm ? |
| 16:49.59 | dehqan | ok dokma how to install it that it's dependecies install with it ? |
| 16:50.01 | wm4 | fuuuuuuuuck |
| 16:50.08 | wm4 | why doesn't my numpad work anymore |
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| 16:50.21 | hyperthing | wm4: because numlock is off! :D |
| 16:50.22 | dokma | dehqan: use aptitude and just mark all packages in those sections |
| 16:50.27 | wm4 | hyperthing: that's not it |
| 16:50.39 | wm4 | I started "systemsettings" and now all keys are dead (except numlock) |
| 16:50.39 | dokma | dehqan: you are familiar with aptitude I guess? |
| 16:50.42 | hyperthing | wm4: haha obviously...check the kdb config with xorg? |
| 16:50.59 | wm4 | oh wait, something switched on the keyboard mouse |
| 16:51.08 | wm4 | I didn't... |
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| 16:51.24 | wm4 | so back to the issue of fucking KDE not reading my cursor theme, and the removed hex editor |
| 16:51.30 | racecar56 | something weird happened to the router, now it's working |
| 16:52.24 | dokma | abrotman: you got any experience with CUPS? |
| 16:52.25 | dehqan | dokma not really |
| 16:52.37 | dutchfish | iloveyou, this might be usefull: http://ftp.newartisans.com/pub/git.from.bottom.up.pdf |
| 16:52.49 | dokma | dehqan: well, if it's not install go with 'apt-get install aptitude' |
| 16:53.03 | dehqan | no it is installed |
| 16:53.10 | dokma | start with aptitude and then use forward slash to find libxml2 |
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| 16:53.24 | dokma | expand it and find the sections that contain dependencies |
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| 16:53.35 | iloveyou | dutchfish: thanks |
| 16:53.36 | dokma | those are depends, suggests and recommends |
| 16:53.40 | wm4 | oh god, why doesn't my cursor theme work anymore... |
| 16:53.42 | dutchfish | iloveyou, yw |
| 16:53.49 | wm4 | this is so frustrating |
| 16:53.54 | racecar56 | yay debian's site is still 'down' |
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| 16:54.45 | j_14 | dokma: did you restart cups? |
| 16:54.52 | wm4 | does anyone have a working industrial-cursor-theme package? |
| 16:54.57 | wm4 | for debian unstable |
| 16:56.18 | oreo | I need help; I set up exim4 to use TLS, yet Outlook cannot establish an encrypted connection |
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| 16:58.41 | wm4 | does anybody know which X cursor files correspond to the hourglass? |
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| 16:59.38 | dehqan | dokma after finding dependencies recommends ... what should be done ? |
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| 17:00.34 | abrotman | dokma: eh? |
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| 17:01.41 | dehqan | are u around dokma |
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| 17:02.16 | abrotman | dehqan: please you whole words |
| 17:02.18 | abrotman | use |
| 17:02.55 | dehqan | yes abrotman |
| 17:02.57 | dehqan | ok |
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| 17:03.24 | syslq78_ | vim-full <--- can I get this shugers without installing gui vim? |
| 17:03.45 | valdyn | syslq78_: you can get vim without getting the gui version |
| 17:03.55 | syslq78_ | valdyn: yes but it's barebone |
| 17:04.02 | syslq78_ | I want numbers, coloring etc |
| 17:04.19 | syslq78_ | And I get it trough vim-full but on server it's nonsense |
| 17:04.36 | valdyn | syslq78_: vim-nox + vim-scripts I guess |
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| 17:04.58 | syslq78_ | valdyn: thanks |
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| 17:06.06 | lsd | syslq78, of course, you also need to set the appropriate vim vars/settings |
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| 17:06.22 | syslq78_ | lsd: yeah I know vimrc |
| 17:06.25 | syslq78_ | thanks |
| 17:06.42 | lsd | ok :) |
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| 17:06.49 | dehqan | in aptitude for installing dependecies what should be done ? |
| 17:06.55 | lsd | has syntax highlighting etc with straight vim... |
| 17:07.02 | valdyn | dehqan: that happens automatically |
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| 17:07.47 | dehqan | how while we see list of dependecies recommends ... what should be done |
| 17:07.52 | syslq78_ | lsd: do tell, can you paste me you'r vimrc? |
| 17:08.13 | dehqan | just key g ? |
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| 17:10.26 | lsd | syslq78_, http://pastebin.com/d4cccc4c4 |
| 17:10.34 | syslq78_ | lsd: thanks matew |
| 17:10.44 | lsd | k |
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| 17:12.46 | NiveusLuna | wow. spam in #debian. |
| 17:12.49 | dehqan | valdyn key g should be pushed ? |
| 17:13.22 | NiveusLuna | [12:11:47] <aYCa\> http://www.videoturk.tr.gs Free Porno Videos |
| 17:13.24 | NiveusLuna | was on join |
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| 17:14.20 | abrotman | NiveusLuna: please don't help the spammer by repeating the spam |
| 17:15.00 | dehqan | Processing was halted because there were too many errors is shown what should be done now ? |
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| 17:15.55 | NiveusLuna | if you say so... who are the ops in this channel, anyway? I'm not used to freenode's usual "no auto-opping of ops" style. |
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| 17:16.20 | abrotman | the spammer will be gone in a moment |
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| 17:17.47 | CVirus | aYCa\ just sent me spam |
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| 17:18.52 | CVirus | abrotman: thanks |
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| 17:22.09 | zeroConf | species8472 |
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| 17:25.25 | hoxu | NiveusLuna, if you see a spammer you report them by saying !ops <message> |
| 17:25.49 | NiveusLuna | ah, thank you. |
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| 17:29.07 | Titan8990_ | its lunch break, someone break something |
| 17:29.12 | Titan8990_ | and make it interesting |
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| 17:30.55 | NiveusLuna | writes a program for the demanding 30-foot-tall man and purposely puts a bug in it. |
| 17:31.26 | j_14 | i have'nt been able to connect to any of the OFTC serves, has this happened to someone else too? |
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| 17:32.24 | zeroConf | titan8990 - would 15 borg vessels make it interesting ? |
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| 17:33.30 | Titan8990_ | zeroConf, i always see your name and think zeroChaos from #remote-exploit.... |
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| 17:34.13 | zeroConf | gotta keep you on your toes titan8990 |
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| 17:37.19 | zeroConf | so titan8990 - wanna tell more about #remote-exploit |
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| 17:38.57 | simonrvn | zeroConf: /topic #remote-exploit |
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| 17:40.09 | njaard | Is there a way to add a key to the gpg keyring for the installer? |
| 17:40.26 | njaard | because the debian installer is broken and there doesn't seem to be any information on fixes right now |
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| 17:43.44 | abrotman | broken how? |
| 17:44.23 | njaard | exactly like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=534106 but for i386 |
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| 17:44.52 | njaard | I fixed it by copying over /usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg from another machine to the installing machine with wget |
| 17:45.03 | dutchfish | njaard, you mean something like this? http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/82 |
| 17:45.17 | teddymills | I work at an ISP..400 linux servers..sometimes it is soooo boring i want to just a fibre optic line just to liven things up... |
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| 17:45.36 | teddymills | I work at an ISP..400 linux servers..sometimes it is soooo boring i want to just CUT a fibre optic line just to liven things up... |
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| 17:45.40 | njaard | dutchfish: that does not apply to the installer, I don't believe |
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| 17:46.01 | abrotman | !5% error |
| 17:46.01 | dpkg | hmm... 5% error is d-i stopping at 5%? Boot the installer with `linux debian-installer/allow_unauthenticated=true' or drop to a shell, chroot /target, kill the existing aptitude process and add the latest key, then run aptitude and install what you like. Since <etch> has been released, you should be downloading a released version of the installer from debian.org which would not have this problem. |
| 17:46.04 | abrotman | njaard: ^^ |
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| 17:46.18 | abrotman | njaard: or get an up to date installer .. hopefully you're not really installing etch |
| 17:46.19 | njaard | abrotman: um... that solves the problem... how? |
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| 17:46.43 | njaard | no, I got an uptodate installer |
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| 17:46.53 | abrotman | etch? |
| 17:47.01 | njaard | http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/debian-502a-i386-businesscard.iso |
| 17:47.03 | abrotman | the bug you pointed at is etch, not lenny |
| 17:47.27 | njaard | lenny=debian 5.0, right? |
| 17:47.30 | abrotman | yep |
| 17:47.39 | njaard | well then looks like something's broken :) |
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| 17:48.38 | abrotman | does it work with the netinst? |
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| 17:49.00 | njaard | I don't know, but I could find out with a VM |
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| 17:49.46 | delcoyote | hi |
| 17:49.49 | hochron | why does my box lag?? The drive light does not go on, the mouse pauses and the catches up, I dont think I am running anything? What gives? |
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| 17:50.28 | njaard | hochron: try to elaborate a little bit on the symptoms |
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| 17:50.46 | hochron | It seems to alway do it for like 10-15 minutes after I start it up, then it acts normally |
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| 17:51.15 | njaard | well then never reboot :) |
| 17:51.25 | hochron | njaard: hmmm |
| 17:51.35 | njaard | hochron: dunno, try to see what top says while it's happening |
| 17:51.46 | njaard | maybe dmesg finds something strange as well |
| 17:52.09 | hochron | njaard: Do you think I have a trojan horse, that is a very good idea |
| 17:52.18 | njaard | I doubt it, hoch |
| 17:52.26 | hochron | ok |
| 17:52.35 | njaard | I mean maybe, but it sounds more like a hardware problem |
| 17:53.09 | njaard | you can tell I'm a programmer because I blame the hardware for everything ;) |
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| 17:54.02 | TheOnly | sounds too like sth's eating up cpu |
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| 17:54.32 | njaard | probably a broken driver specfically, I would guess |
| 17:54.42 | TheOnly | as njaard said, top would give you some more details if it's a process that causes it |
| 17:54.44 | njaard | abrotman: would you like me to actually test out netint? it will take a whil |
| 17:54.45 | njaard | e |
| 17:55.00 | TheOnly | yeah, that's a good guess |
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| 17:55.51 | abrotman | njaard: i'd find it odd that the netinst works but the bizcard fails |
| 17:55.57 | abrotman | they should have the same set of keys |
| 17:56.11 | abrotman | njaard: or try the above installer option to see if it stops the issue |
| 17:56.14 | TheOnly | or maybe not, cause if it were a driver failure it wouldnt go away in 10-15 mins, but rather stay until the device associated with it is removed or disabled |
| 17:56.19 | njaard | abrotman: what installer option? |
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| 17:57.09 | TheOnly | could be a some executable trying to perform sth and keep on failing, then after N fails stop performing the loop |
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| 17:57.19 | spvensko | what's a good simple locking program that doesn't require too many deps? |
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| 17:57.44 | TheOnly | spvensko, locking as in... lock a session? |
| 17:57.47 | njaard | TheOnly: I would be surprised if it were any user space thing, unless it's forking a million times |
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| 17:58.11 | spvensko | TheOnly: right |
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| 17:58.28 | spvensko | similar to what a screensaver would do, so that it requires the user's password to gain access |
| 17:58.28 | TheOnly | spvensko, you could use xscreensaver, it's usually installed by default |
| 17:58.41 | spvensko | ty |
| 17:58.54 | abrotman | njaard: see the bot spew above |
| 17:58.56 | TheOnly | spvensko, you'll need to set it up to ask for password though |
| 17:59.03 | hochron | hmmm, thanks for the help, I did some stuff that might do it |
| 17:59.27 | njaard | abrotman: well, as for finding a workaround, I already did |
| 17:59.29 | fronix_ | hmm ive just setup my mailserver and configured postfix with mysql and when i tested last time the smtp was working now when i write telnet localhost smtp it closes the connection instant. |
| 17:59.43 | abrotman | !5% error |
| 17:59.43 | dpkg | [5% error] d-i stopping at 5%? Boot the installer with `linux debian-installer/allow_unauthenticated=true' or drop to a shell, chroot /target, kill the existing aptitude process and add the latest key, then run aptitude and install what you like. Since <etch> has been released, you should be downloading a released version of the installer from debian.org which would not have this problem. |
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| 18:01.38 | njaard | hm, this laptop has a radeon |
| 18:01.43 | njaard | I've never used an ATI card before :) |
| 18:02.05 | TheOnly | njaard, maybe, but if it were constatly forking that much it wouldn't it eventually die if a proc limit is reached, or get the whole system hang if there isn't one? |
| 18:02.09 | bjoernb | hi, i asked 10 hours ago, but nobody answered: |
| 18:02.18 | bjoernb | i tried to remap my keys on a vt but it does not work: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MovingTheCtrlKey#toc3 |
| 18:02.25 | bjoernb | i have tried it also with keycode 66, since that is what xev prints out when i press caps_lock under X |
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| 18:02.51 | bjoernb | link is http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MovingTheCtrlKey#toc5 |
| 18:02.52 | njaard | TheOnly: the top process isn't guaranteed to get killed, and linux's "bad process killer" has a tendency of always picking the wrong process |
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| 18:03.03 | bjoernb | can anybody help me? |
| 18:03.18 | njaard | bjoernb: I know how to do this in X, but not a vt |
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| 18:03.51 | bjoernb | njaard: how do you do it in X? i used xmodmap for that. |
| 18:03.58 | njaard | yes, xmodmap for me, too |
| 18:04.03 | TheOnly | njaard, i see... about the ATI card, that's really bad :) ATi's proprietary driver sucks hard and the opensource radeon & radeonhd aren't there yet |
| 18:04.37 | njaard | TheOnly: I was under the impression that the ATI drivers improved significantly recently |
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| 18:04.42 | njaard | "improved... from what?" ;) |
| 18:04.52 | jelly-home | bjoernb: wait, are you asking about X or console now? |
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| 18:05.34 | jelly-home | bjoernb: you want to make CapsLock an extra Control or switch them around or what? |
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| 18:06.06 | TheOnly | njaard, it hasn't improved at all... you cant even compile a kernel module on newer kernel versions unless ATi release a newer version of the driver, which in my case doesnt work because my gfx card is no longer supported |
| 18:06.20 | jelly-home | bjoernb: because in X that's setxkbmap -option ctrl:nocaps |
| 18:06.27 | njaard | bjoernb: it's funny you bring it up, this stupid laptop I'm installing debian on has the Fn key where Ctrl should be (on a PC keyboard), which means I'll need to start using the "traditional" location of control on it or I'll go crazy |
| 18:06.32 | TheOnly | so i'm stuck with 2.6.26... |
| 18:06.44 | njaard | 2.6.26 isn't so bad ;) |
| 18:06.46 | jelly-home | bjoernb: and to switch them setxkbmap -option ctrl:swapcaps |
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| 18:06.58 | bjoernb | jelly-home: i want to use only ctrl not caps_lock in every case: vt, console, X |
| 18:07.08 | njaard | TheOnly: I mean, likewise, module-assistant with the nvidia drivers fails 75% of the time as well |
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| 18:07.31 | bjoernb | njaard: same here thinkpad.... |
| 18:07.39 | njaard | bjoernb: hah, exactly |
| 18:07.55 | njaard | obviously someone braindead designed this keyboard |
| 18:08.01 | jelly-home | bjoernb: um vt = console? |
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| 18:08.07 | Rasthufa | Hi, I have just installed lenny on my (kinda old) Compaq N610c with wireless LAN W200. And I'm having trouble getting the orinoco driver to complie (step 3 on the wiki) |
| 18:08.07 | TheOnly | njaard, nvidia's gfx driver is way better... they say 2.6.x and it really is 2.6.x (well, in most cases). i've compiled 4 year old linux edition driver kernel module on 2.6.30 with no problems whatsoever |
| 18:08.30 | TheOnly | it still fails sometimes too, but not with a 100% fail rate |
| 18:08.31 | TheOnly | :) |
| 18:08.32 | njaard | TheOnly: if it's worse than nvidia, that's pathetic |
| 18:08.32 | bjoernb | jelly-home: everywhere |
| 18:08.49 | TheOnly | njaard, it's not just worse, it's WAY worse :) |
| 18:09.05 | njaard | woohoo :/ |
| 18:09.06 | jelly-home | well, I don't know about the console, but that nocaps thing ought to work |
| 18:09.10 | njaard | well, X starts |
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| 18:09.49 | njaard | I wonder what driver it's using, considering that I didn't configure X at all, and xorg.conf is empty |
| 18:10.14 | bjoernb | jelly-home: will it be saved, so i have the option after reboot? |
| 18:10.17 | jelly-home | njaard: /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell |
| 18:10.18 | njaard | yay I have kde! |
| 18:10.42 | bjoernb | njaard: kde will be able to tile sometime in the future. |
| 18:10.49 | TheOnly | njaard, i wish i had your gfx card ^^ at least it should be supported for quite some time from now |
| 18:10.53 | fronix_ | Ive just setup my mailserver and configured postfix with mysql and when i tested last time the smtp was working now when i write telnet localhost smtp it closes the connection instant. |
| 18:11.10 | TheOnly | njaard, it uses fglrx by default |
| 18:11.11 | jelly-home | bjoernb: nope; if you use Gnome or KDE, it can be configure in there. Otherwise there's also a way to put it in xorg.conf |
| 18:11.17 | TheOnly | if you have it |
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| 18:11.40 | bjoernb | jelly-home: i use a window manager not an desktop environment. |
| 18:11.42 | njaard | let's see what glxgears thinks |
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| 18:11.44 | TheOnly | if you don't it switches to either radeon or radeonhd which fits best, or if neither does to vesa |
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| 18:12.04 | njaard | seems like it's using radeon |
| 18:12.14 | jelly-home | bjoernb: http://paste.debian.net/45003/ |
| 18:12.15 | njaard | yay, glxgears looks great |
| 18:12.22 | njaard | in that gears are spinning. |
| 18:12.24 | bjoernb | jelly-home: i will look for the way to put it into xorg.conf. but this does not help if using one of the terminals (F1-F6) |
| 18:12.35 | jelly-home | obviously not. |
| 18:12.54 | TheOnly | njaard, i get 170 fps with the radeon driver :( |
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| 18:13.09 | bjoernb | thx jelly-home |
| 18:13.23 | TheOnly | though i have a radeon xpress 1100 (integrated) |
| 18:13.29 | njaard | 876 fps here |
| 18:13.39 | njaard | this machine is probably unpathetic enough to run kde4, even |
| 18:13.39 | TheOnly | which sucks but still, i get 1500 with fglrx |
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| 18:14.07 | jelly-home | bjoernb: watch out for that XkbModel, it may not be correct for your machine (check with xev what misc. Thinkpad specific keys generate) |
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| 18:14.15 | magno | Hola |
| 18:14.20 | magno | alguien anda |
| 18:14.51 | Rasthufa | magno va al site de espanol de debian |
| 18:15.08 | magno | ok.. |
| 18:15.11 | TheOnly | aye i get about 880 with my dekstop pc too with the radeonhd driver |
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| 18:15.35 | njaard | well, I'm not complanining, it feels snappy |
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| 18:15.49 | jelly-home | bjoernb: I've picked the options with KDE4's kxkb tool, which generates and shows setxkbmap command line for its configuration. A useful feature. |
| 18:16.06 | bjoernb | k |
| 18:16.22 | MagnoBalt | Rasthufa, i need help with apache. about .htaccess |
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| 18:16.39 | dehqan | good day everybody ; while removing libxml2 ,many other packages have been removed from system and now system is corrupted ,is there any way to find out names of those packages that have been removed ? |
| 18:16.43 | Mac101 | hi im having some trouble getting samba working on lenny this is my config: http://fpaste.org/MW9X/ and netiher my xp client machine or the lenny server has firewalls? |
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| 18:17.22 | bjoernb | jelly-home: there is no manpage for kxkb. |
| 18:17.31 | Rasthufa | i'm not gunna be much help |
| 18:17.33 | jelly-home | bjoernb: it's a clicky tool! |
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| 18:17.41 | justin | Mac101: yno? |
| 18:17.46 | njaard | dehqan: uh.. practically everything? ;) |
| 18:17.58 | justin | Mac101: the default samba config works fine, if samba isn't working, most likely you broke it |
| 18:18.12 | dehqan | what ? njaard ? |
| 18:18.18 | valdyn | dehqan: why would you need to know? |
| 18:18.22 | njaard | I'm commenting about how everything depends on libxml2 |
| 18:18.23 | jelly-home | dpkg: find /bin/kxkb |
| 18:18.26 | valdyn | dehqan: just install back your gnome or kde or whatever you want |
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| 18:19.00 | dehqan | system is corrupted now |
| 18:19.11 | valdyn | dehqan: so reinstall or restore from backup |
| 18:19.11 | njaard | how could it be corrupted? |
| 18:19.34 | dehqan | valdyn how to restore ? |
| 18:19.49 | valdyn | dehqan: you should have thought about that when making the backup |
| 18:19.56 | dpkg | Debian Search of '/bin/kxkb' (2): (/usr/bin/kxkb) in kde/kdebase-workspace-bin ;; (/usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/kxkb) in debug/kdebase-workspace-dbg. |
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| 18:20.23 | j_14 | dehqan: what do you mean by corrupted? |
| 18:20.25 | valdyn | dehqan: you should be able to run aptitude still |
| 18:20.30 | timidboy | hi, I have a big problem. I had recompiled my kernel to 2.6.28 enabling layer7. And after I reboot my system, I had one error. This system dont boot. This kernel switch hda to sda, very strange, but my hard disk is IDE, and he set to sata.. |
| 18:20.40 | njaard | hm, what driver associates with: "Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter" |
| 18:20.42 | bjoernb | jelly-home: i have a tiling window manager installed. if i start kxkb nothing is visually happening |
| 18:20.43 | dehqan | valdyn yes aptitude can be run |
| 18:20.58 | valdyn | dehqan: so run aptitude install synaptic |
| 18:21.03 | valdyn | dehqan: or *whatever* you want |
| 18:21.37 | dehqan | valdyn see , debian was lenny 5 first ok ? |
| 18:21.51 | valdyn | dehqan: how is that relevant? |
| 18:22.05 | dehqan | then has been upgarded to 5.0.2 |
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| 18:22.20 | timidboy | "warning: bootdevice may be renamed. Try root dev=/dev/sda1" |
| 18:22.24 | timidboy | :S |
| 18:22.37 | jelly-home | bjoernb: oh, that's bad... the thing appears as a systray icon |
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| 18:22.38 | valdyn | dehqan: i dont see the relevance in that |
| 18:22.43 | dehqan | with all packages in /var/cache/apt/archive a local rep has been made |
| 18:22.48 | jelly-home | no systray, no kxkb |
| 18:22.49 | valdyn | dehqan: I pretty much told you what to do. What is the problem? |
| 18:23.03 | dehqan | a local rep with lenny 5 and 5.0.2 packages |
| 18:23.14 | dehqan | now |
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| 18:23.42 | dehqan | while installing all packages of dependencies of libxml2 |
| 18:23.49 | dehqan | some error accours .. |
| 18:23.54 | fronix_ | Anyone here worked with Postfix, pop3, smtp, telnet before? |
| 18:24.24 | njaard | fronix_: funny question of the day award goes to you |
| 18:24.25 | njaard | congratulations |
| 18:24.28 | dehqan | is it cause of that local rep is made of packages 5 and 5.0.2 debian ? |
| 18:24.31 | bjoernb | this happens when starting kxkb: |
| 18:24.33 | bjoernb | <unknown program name>(1847)/: KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server |
| 18:24.36 | bjoernb | <unknown program name>(1846)/: KUniqueApplication: Pipe closed unexpectedly.<unknown program name>(1847)/: KUniqueApplication: Cannot find the D-Bus session server |
| 18:24.42 | valdyn | dehqan: do you think we can guess the error message? |
| 18:25.39 | dehqan | before the error |
| 18:25.53 | dehqan | in aptitdue warning has een said |
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| 18:26.11 | njaard | dehqan: tell them to us! |
| 18:26.17 | dehqan | that some packages are in untrusted versions |
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| 18:26.21 | valdyn | !tell dehqan -about smart questions |
| 18:26.27 | valdyn | !tell dehqan -about enter |
| 18:26.44 | valdyn | dehqan: untrusted versions is just a warning, its not an actual problem |
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| 18:28.02 | dehqan | one of the errors is that |
| 18:28.03 | dehqan | samba depends on libattr1 (>= 2.4.41-1); however: |
| 18:28.03 | dehqan | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.09 | MrWax | when i execute like cat * | grep -i "string" <- and it searches multiple files, is there some kind of way to get as result in which files it has found that certain string? |
| 18:28.19 | valdyn | judd: versions libattr1 |
| 18:28.35 | hyperthing | MrWax: Erm..using only grep? |
| 18:28.39 | jelly-home | MrWax: grep -li "string" * |
| 18:28.41 | valdyn | judd`: versions libattr1 |
| 18:28.41 | judd` | valdyn: libattr1 -- etch: 2.4.32-1 lenny: 1:2.4.43-2 sid: 1:2.4.43-3 squeeze: 1:2.4.43-3 |
| 18:28.56 | konr | how can I check which machine is mine? The vendor says it's a Pentium 4, but there are two processors! |
| 18:28.57 | njaard | ok, it was a pleasure,. bye all |
| 18:29.00 | jelly-home | MrWax: or do it without -l and see what happens |
| 18:29.00 | valdyn | dehqan: this is an etch package |
| 18:29.12 | njaard | konr: what?! |
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| 18:29.38 | konr | njaard: which processor has my machine |
| 18:29.43 | njaard | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 18:30.22 | fronix | Anyone here worked with Postfix, pop3, smtp, telnet before? |
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| 18:30.37 | Mac101 | ok defualt debian samba config and smbclient -L myip results in: |
| 18:30.45 | Mac101 | Server requested plaintext password but 'client plaintext auth' is disabled |
| 18:30.45 | Mac101 | session setup failed: SUCCESS - 0 |
| 18:30.50 | dehqan | yes notice this valdyn , while making local rep , some packages were with 2 versions(lenny etch) in folder then lower version (etch) has been added to list |
| 18:31.50 | dehqan | how is it possible while creating local rep ,add upper versions to list instead of lower version of same packages ? |
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| 18:32.28 | dehqan | e.g package libc6 in 2 version is in the folder |
| 18:32.44 | MrWax | thanks jelly-home |
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| 18:33.38 | bjoernb | jelly-home: do you know if r61 is also xkbmodel thinkpad60? |
| 18:33.42 | dehqan | valdyn did you find out problem ? |
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| 18:34.15 | jelly-home | bjoernb: most likely yes |
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| 18:35.19 | bjoernb | thx. |
| 18:35.25 | jelly-home | bjoernb: on my squeeze system, /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.xml seems to list the models |
| 18:35.50 | jelly-home | or /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/base: |
| 18:36.15 | bjoernb | thx |
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| 18:37.30 | dehqan | good day every body , while making local repository ,if one package is in 2 different versions in the folder , dpkg-scanpackages will add lower version of that package in the list , is it possible to add lower version in the list ? |
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| 18:37.52 | bjoernb | bbl |
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| 18:41.38 | bjoernb | re |
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| 18:41.52 | jelly-home | nothing happened |
| 18:42.06 | bjoernb | thx jelly-home. it worked with /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 18:42.11 | dehqan | any idea ? |
| 18:42.23 | bjoernb | i used xkbmodel thinkpad60 |
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| 18:42.42 | jelly-home | dehqan: no, remove the higher version |
| 18:43.28 | dehqan | good day every body , while making local repository ,if one package is in 2 different versions in the folder , dpkg-scanpackages will add lower version of that package in the list , is it possible to add higher version in the list ? |
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| 18:44.04 | sigmonsays_ | Hello. |
| 18:44.06 | dehqan | jelly-home there is many packages that are in 2 version |
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| 18:44.29 | dehqan | how is it possible easily to remove lower version of them ? |
| 18:44.38 | jelly-home | dehqan: you mean, the higher |
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| 18:45.03 | jelly-home | dehqan: if you have more than one version, dpkg-scanpackage picks the highest |
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| 18:45.24 | jelly-home | has a crapload of downloaded operas in ~/packages/ |
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| 18:45.59 | Danic | I messed up my php5 config file. Can I repair the package somehow? |
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| 18:46.10 | dehqan | no picks the lower methinks ,does not it ? |
| 18:47.06 | Mac101 | do u have to do some sort of samba specific add user for the defualt debian smb.conf? |
| 18:47.12 | Mac101 | is lost >.< |
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| 18:48.58 | sigmonsays_ | trying to pass flags to ./configure with dpkg-buildpackage |
| 18:49.13 | sigmonsays_ | setting DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS says it's a unsupported option |
| 18:49.19 | sigmonsays_ | any site for this? |
| 18:49.54 | Bushmills | Mac101: smbadduser |
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| 18:52.31 | Mac101 | is that an essential step for the default debian smb.conf? |
| 18:52.55 | fronix_ | What ports should i open for my mailserver to work? |
| 18:53.06 | fronix_ | 24, 587 and what more? |
| 18:53.15 | fronix_ | 25* |
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| 18:54.25 | joltcan | fronix_: 465 |
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| 18:54.39 | fronix_ | ah thnx |
| 18:54.55 | dehqan | /usr/bin/perl: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/perl5/auto/Locale/gettext/gettext.so: undefined symbol: Perl_Istack_sp_ptr |
| 18:55.02 | fronix_ | anything else? |
| 18:55.26 | joltcan | fronix_: 993 / 465? |
| 18:55.32 | Danic | I messed up my php5 config file. Can I repair the package somehow? |
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| 18:55.39 | fronix_ | 993? |
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| 18:55.46 | fronix_ | what is that port for? |
| 18:56.01 | joltcan | fronix_: Depends on what services you are opening. 465/993 is tls smtp and 993 is tls imap |
| 18:56.27 | fronix_ | well im behind a router so i need to open all the ports so the mails can go thru |
| 18:56.32 | adb | dpkg: tell Danic -about confmiss |
| 18:56.51 | joltcan | fronix_: yes, but that depends on which services you are using |
| 18:57.09 | fronix_ | well SMTP |
| 18:57.26 | joltcan | fronix_: so 25 is sufficient for sending and receving mails to your MTA, while different ports are used for pop, imap and also the same over tls(ssl) |
| 18:57.36 | fronix_ | hmm ok |
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| 18:58.01 | joltcan | fronix_: but if you are planning on hosting an pop server, then you need to open more ports |
| 18:58.12 | fronix_ | and those are? |
| 18:58.54 | joltcan | fronix_: Well, if you know the name of it, you can always look at /etc/services |
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| 18:59.11 | Danic | adb, I tried the line mentioned by the dpkg-user here in irc. but it did not solve the problem. the missing config file is stil missing |
| 18:59.13 | joltcan | fronix_: or your regular friend google and wikipedia |
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| 18:59.49 | adb | fronix: rtfm , don't ask us to read for you |
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| 19:01.29 | adb | Danic: wget you package , extract it (dpkg -e packname ) , and pick his conf file |
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| 19:02.58 | fronix_ | I must done someting srlsly wrong i can't even send a mail to the mailaccount :S |
| 19:03.29 | dokma | Guys my router is driving me nuts |
| 19:03.43 | dokma | I can't make him pass through CUPS connections |
| 19:03.55 | dokma | ssh and http pass no problemos |
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| 19:04.20 | dokma | CUPS comes on port 631 and I forwarded it to my local machine |
| 19:04.30 | dokma | http://localhost:631 works |
| 19:04.42 | dokma | http://192.168.1.2:631 does not |
| 19:05.17 | dokma | I've configured CUPS to listen on all interface with Listen *:631 in cupsd.conf |
| 19:05.29 | dokma | is there some way to verify this with nmap ? |
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| 19:05.46 | jpcooper | hello |
| 19:06.19 | jpcooper | I am on Debian Lenny 64-bit, and it seems that amongst other things, my bookmarks are not being saved between successive openings of Iceweasel. Does anyone have the same problem? |
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| 19:14.49 | macrobat | jpcooper: export your bookmarks and import them the next session :) |
| 19:14.59 | macrobat | i dont know, sry |
| 19:15.26 | jpcooper | well thanks for that |
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| 19:16.01 | bjoernb | hi |
| 19:16.29 | syslq78_ | Is there deb for python 2.6 that's stable to use |
| 19:16.33 | zrin | hi, is there a pxe menu / config file editor? |
| 19:17.36 | bjoernb | jelly-home: hej i found out how to change the keys in a virtual terminal, so that the keymap remains the same after boot: edit carefully /etc/console/boottime.kmap.gz to change the keyboard to nocaps you have to change keycode 58 = Control |
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| 19:21.11 | zrin | I'd like to call debian netboot (pxe) menu out of my own menu, I'm looking at debian-installer/i386/boot-screens/syslinux.cfg but it doesn't look trivial |
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| 19:22.21 | justin | zrin: what are you tryig to do? |
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| 19:23.53 | zrin | justin: I have a dhcp/bootp/tftp server offering pxelinux.0 - I'd like to call debian netboot menu out of my own pxelinux.cfg/default |
| 19:24.12 | justin | zrin: look at txt.cfg ignore the other fules |
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| 19:25.08 | datacrusher | hi everyone. i wanna install kompozer here, but dont have it in the repos, and the official site os down |
| 19:25.16 | datacrusher | anyone knows the right repos to install it? im on etch |
| 19:26.03 | zrin | justin: you're suggesting to drop the whole debian netboot menu and just take the needed kernel and options, is that correct? |
| 19:26.17 | adb | datacrusher: apt-cache search kompozer |
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| 19:27.54 | datacrusher | adb, thanks! but i see that you didnt read my question. I dont have kompozer either on apt-cache, or synaptic list. |
| 19:28.31 | adb | judd`: versions kompozer |
| 19:28.32 | judd` | adb: kompozer -- lenny-backports: 1:0.8~alpha4+dfsg+svn163-2~bpo50+1 sid: 1:0.8~alpha4+dfsg+svn163-2 squeeze: 1:0.8~alpha4+dfsg+svn163-2 |
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| 19:29.23 | adb | datacrusher: try backports it in etch .. |
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| 19:30.11 | datacrusher | hm. does it run on debian 64? |
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| 19:31.14 | adb | dpkg: tell datacrusher -about pdo |
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| 19:35.09 | Idle | I'm having some serious performance issues with my aacraid sas/sata controller, that didn't have any issues when on windows, running on the latest stable, on amd64 |
| 19:35.14 | Mac101 | Server requested plaintext password but 'client plaintext auth' is disabled |
| 19:35.24 | Mac101 | is all i can get from samba :( |
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| 19:37.14 | adb | datacrusher: it seems not , http://www.backports.org/debian/pool/main/k/kompozer/ |
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| 19:38.24 | vladbr | GOGOGO fight now on http://armyofdead231.mybrute.com and win a 5+ bonus levels!!! GOGOGO just now!!! |
| 19:38.25 | vladbr | GOGOGO fight now on http://armyofdead231.mybrute.com and win a 5+ bonus levels!!! GOGOGO just now!!! |
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| 19:38.56 | jelly-home | !stew++ |
| 19:39.19 | jelly-home | FASTER THAN !ops |
| 19:39.31 | jelly-home | tastier than a great chili? |
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| 19:40.06 | Hydroxide | jelly-home: depends. I'm vegetarian. I wouldn't want to eat him. |
| 19:40.41 | alokat | hey forks, maybe this is the wrong channel, but does someone uses icinga 0.8.2? |
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| 19:41.56 | jelly-home | Hydroxide: don't be so caustic! |
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| 19:44.30 | sharp15 | is the virtualbox-ose package in apt patched by debian? |
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| 19:44.55 | adb | yes |
| 19:45.02 | macman_ | can i make a wireless router into an AP so it can get internet ? |
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| 19:45.18 | datacrusher | too bad adb... ill try using quanta them |
| 19:45.22 | datacrusher | thanks anyway |
| 19:45.57 | adb | sharp15: apt-cache show virtualbox-ose |
| 19:46.25 | Defense | Hi, is debian sid able to make use of the NetworkManager? |
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| 19:46.43 | adb | Defense: tias |
| 19:46.52 | sharp15 | adb: did that. what about it? |
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| 19:48.05 | adb | Defense: as unstable user must now how to test it |
| 19:48.57 | hyperthing | Defense: should be, but it's incompatible with gnome-network-manager |
| 19:49.28 | hyperthing | *gnome-network-admin |
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| 19:51.05 | JordiGH | There's a really horrible horrible system bell in bash now. |
| 19:51.17 | JordiGH | It started showing up in Linux 2.6.30, I think. |
| 19:51.20 | JordiGH | How can I turn this off? |
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| 19:51.37 | hyperthing | JordiGH: are you using a laptop? |
| 19:51.45 | JordiGH | hyperthing: Yes. |
| 19:52.00 | JordiGH | it sounds like... a pc speaker? |
| 19:52.05 | JordiGH | Wow, I'm old enough to remember those. |
| 19:52.05 | adb | judd: wb |
| 19:52.11 | hyperthing | JordiGH: what I do is Mute, then Unmute |
| 19:52.16 | hyperthing | JordiGH: and it's gone for me |
| 19:52.23 | hyperthing | JordiGH: don't ask me why that works, I have no idea |
| 19:52.35 | JordiGH | aaaah! |
| 19:52.38 | JordiGH | It's still there. |
| 19:52.47 | Bushmills | JordiGH: bash 4? look in /usr/share/doc/bash, in Readme.DEBIAN or in changes, one of those says so. |
| 19:52.47 | hyperthing | JordiGH: but it IS a PC speaker, cause laptops dont' have the little device that desktops do have |
| 19:53.04 | abrotman | !bell |
| 19:53.04 | dpkg | To disable the bell: "xset b off" in X, "setterm -blength 0" in console. For some reason, bash beeps excessively when in emacs (default) mode; "set -o vi" puts it in vi editing mode, which doesn't beep on partial completions. In konsole, Settings->Bell->Visible Bell. In kernel 2.6.26 and later, modprobe -r snd-pcsp, then <blacklist> the snd-pcsp module. Also ask me about <shell beep>. |
| 19:53.17 | JordiGH | Bushmills: No, 3.2.48 |
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| 19:53.29 | judd | adb: Error: "wb" is not a valid command. |
| 19:53.31 | JordiGH | aha. |
| 19:53.34 | JordiGH | snd-pcsp |
| 19:54.33 | JordiGH | Hm, I don't have snd-pcsp loaded... |
| 19:54.38 | JordiGH | !shell beep |
| 19:54.39 | dpkg | [shell beep] man inputrc ; man readline (i.e. edit ~/.inputrc and set bell-style none) - also man setterm. |
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| 19:54.59 | bjoernb | byw |
| 19:55.01 | bjoernb | bye |
| 19:55.11 | Idle | I'm having a horrible time with writes to an aacraid controller (adaptec 31205, sas/sata), with xfs (it had issues with ext3 as well), and I am having a really difficult time trying to figure out how to speed it up... Its on a 4.7T array |
| 19:56.12 | JordiGH | Oh, god, it's in xchat too. |
| 19:56.14 | JordiGH | make it stop |
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| 19:58.37 | Cosmo` | i've just installed ACPID onto my server, and the shutdown event when hitting the power button worked fine |
| 19:58.45 | Cosmo` | now i've rebooted the machine and it doesn't work anymore! |
| 19:58.48 | Cosmo` | anyone seen this before? |
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| 19:59.19 | adb | dpkg: tell Cosmo` -about ask |
| 19:59.20 | d0htem | i got some security updates being held back, how can i find out what is keeping them back? |
| 20:00.07 | JordiGH | Aha, there's a PC beep in alsamixer. |
| 20:00.08 | JordiGH | It's gone now. |
| 20:00.42 | JordiGH | Phew! |
| 20:00.42 | d0htem | lol |
| 20:00.42 | JordiGH | lol |
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| 20:00.42 | JordiGH | d0htem: aptitude why-not my-beloved-security-upgrade |
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| 20:01.18 | Cosmo` | i'd love to give you more information adb, but frankly, i'm stumped ... /var/log/acpid doesn't appear to do anything when i actually press the power button |
| 20:01.37 | d0htem | JordiGH: thx |
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| 20:01.59 | d0htem | it was the damn virtualbox kernel mod i bet |
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| 20:02.56 | adb | dpkg: tell Cosmo` -about bootlog |
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| 20:03.19 | JordiGH | So I think I need a library linked against something that Debian didn't link it with. |
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| 20:03.26 | JordiGH | What do you guys recommend? |
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| 20:03.58 | d0htem | recompile the deb or find the lib manually in .deb form |
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| 20:04.12 | d0htem | brb kernel , requires reboot |
| 20:04.24 | JordiGH | Ah, compile the Debian way. I've forgotten how to do this. |
| 20:04.44 | JordiGH | Too bad it's a long-ass compilation. |
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| 20:05.59 | Cosmo` | adb - seems fine, no complaints when starting ACPI services ... |
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| 20:07.19 | adb | Cosmo`: i dunno, maybe others may help |
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| 20:07.55 | Cosmo` | thanks for the hints though |
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| 20:09.32 | Scurz | hello |
| 20:09.39 | Scurz | I'm installing postfix (the conf comes from another server) with courier and I get that error during auth : "LOGIN FAILED", and I don't find from where the errors comes, would you have any ideas ? |
| 20:10.03 | Scurz | "Authentication FAILED: Operation not permitted" with "authtest user@domain password" (login and pwd are ok) |
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| 20:11.56 | Interphase | how possible is it to transfer my debian install to another computer, so that I don't have to apt-get and configure everything again |
| 20:12.41 | konr | how's that site in which you can answer questions and get points called? |
| 20:12.53 | abrotman | konr: debian.org ? |
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| 20:13.07 | konr | abrotman: no, it's one about programming |
| 20:13.14 | abrotman | then ask a programming channel |
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| 20:13.21 | konr | stack overflow! |
| 20:13.39 | d0htem | smashthestack.org ? |
| 20:13.53 | d0htem | ur fing bad for asking here |
| 20:14.35 | jelly-home | expert sex change |
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| 20:15.36 | outlaw84 | does anyone happen to know how to set the speed limit in filezilla client? |
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| 20:19.07 | Cosmo` | so i can confirm that the ACPI kernel modules are loaded and ACPID is installed and running with the correct scripts |
| 20:19.14 | Cosmo` | yet hitting the power button doesn't shut the machine down ... |
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| 20:19.46 | wr| | outlaw84: take a look at trickle |
| 20:19.55 | ajaya | hello.. please recommend a debian etch IPTABLES frontend |
| 20:20.00 | zapster | anyone have any idea why the evolution new message editor locks up with the exchange server plugin installed? |
| 20:20.18 | simonrvn | ajaya: vim |
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| 20:20.41 | ajaya | simonrvn: i wish I was that brave |
| 20:20.50 | xand | ajaya: iptables is the frontend... |
| 20:20.53 | rudi_s | ajaya: shorewall, but simonrvn is right, just use plain iptables, it's not that complex. |
| 20:20.56 | xand | to netfilter |
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| 20:21.41 | ajaya | xand: agree. just wanted to avoid learning all the rules syntax right now. |
| 20:22.09 | Idle | I've recently switched one of our servers from windows to debian, with the same raid controller, but under debian 5.0.2 amd64, the raid controller is horrifically slow... hdparm shows normal speeds at 344MB/sec, but performance on xfs is awful, at under 1MB/sec |
| 20:22.19 | xand | for most things it's easy to learn |
| 20:22.22 | stew | ajaya: i like fwbuilder, note that you should consider upgrading to the current stable |
| 20:22.33 | xand | I've never used anything other than iptables o.o |
| 20:22.36 | ajaya | rudi_s: thanks. was thinking abt shorewall. but it does so many things. I just wanted a simple one. and I am on etch. shorewall rel on that is obosolete |
| 20:22.55 | ajaya | stew: yes. would love to upgrade. stupid php 4 need |
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| 20:23.13 | xand | php 4 shouldn't be used anymore, it has unpatched vulnerabilities |
| 20:23.17 | rudi_s | ajaya: You have to sooner or later, just pick some tutorials on the net .. http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html |
| 20:23.21 | xand | not on the public internet anyway |
| 20:24.05 | ajaya | xand: u r preaching to the choir. client doesn't want to hear it. good for them. |
| 20:24.19 | ajaya | thanks rudi |
| 20:24.45 | rudi_s | np |
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| 20:26.17 | Azhrarn | what seems to be an odd display bug in mke2fs: http://paste.debian.net/45010/ |
| 20:26.22 | Azhrarn | doesn't seem to hurt anythign though |
| 20:27.03 | Cosmo` | damn, i wish i had the time to troubleshoot this |
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| 20:27.51 | elux | how can i make a new system user? |
| 20:27.57 | elux | that will run a daemon |
| 20:28.03 | Scurz | adduser |
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| 20:28.11 | elux | that makes a home directory |
| 20:28.13 | elux | and a high uid |
| 20:28.14 | Scurz | elux: adduser |
| 20:28.19 | Cosmo` | does anyone at least know how i can see which ACPI events are being parsed? |
| 20:28.26 | Cosmo` | because i have no idea if the event is getting through to acpid |
| 20:28.31 | Azhrarn | man adduser, check out --system |
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| 20:29.22 | elux | cool thanks |
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| 20:35.33 | chow | Hi all, does anyone know why i cant do an install on a 250GB Western Digital HD ? |
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| 20:35.52 | chow | Im sitting in front of the desktop now and its giving me a partition errof |
| 20:35.56 | chow | error* |
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| 20:36.22 | chow | Anyone? |
| 20:36.42 | MikaelLindmark | I have a "Gport GT750" GPS. What Debian software (packages) can use it? |
| 20:36.52 | beardy | !error |
| 20:36.52 | dpkg | user error at console, abort, retry, fail? see also <don't work> |
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| 20:37.50 | beardy | chow: Please be a bit more specific, when do you get an error? What exactly is the error? |
| 20:38.04 | chow | beardy: im re-doing it now |
| 20:38.07 | chow | Give me a sec |
| 20:38.17 | ewook | *shrugs*. anyone got a bios-update for via's mini-itx motherboards so I can stop having nightmares putting the boot on a floppy *_* |
| 20:38.22 | chow | beardy: its detecting hardware now |
| 20:38.49 | chow | But the error said something like "Partition of 241.1GB hda1 failed" |
| 20:38.51 | chow | Or something |
| 20:39.01 | chow | I'll give you the full message when it comes up again |
| 20:39.04 | adb | btw, "apci" bot message needs an update " The Linux/ACPI project home page has moved to http://www.lesswatts.org/projects/acpi/" |
| 20:39.24 | adb | as in http://acpi.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 20:39.57 | jelly-home | dpkg: literal apci |
| 20:39.57 | dpkg | "apci" is "<reply> see acpi" |
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| 20:40.40 | adb | s/apci/acpi , sory |
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| 20:42.51 | chow | Ugh |
| 20:43.16 | chow | The partitioner is hung at 47% - does this mean the HD is too big or what? |
| 20:43.24 | zeroConf | what does rpcbind do ? |
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| 20:43.52 | chow | Was that to me? |
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| 20:44.40 | crzedmonk | hi |
| 20:44.44 | beardy | chow: Probably not to you. Ok, so you are installing? The partitioner of the installer? |
| 20:44.46 | crzedmonk | anyone around? |
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| 20:45.01 | beardy | !tell crzedmonk about ask |
| 20:45.04 | chow | beardy: yes |
| 20:45.12 | chow | Remember its a 250GB HD |
| 20:45.13 | adb | Cosmo`: tried "noacpi acpi=off" as boot parameters ? see http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=kernel+cheat_codes&aq=f&oq=&aqi= |
| 20:45.18 | crzedmonk | how do you set the windows to open what you click in the same window and not open a new one? |
| 20:45.23 | chow | So i guess i can understand why its taking so long |
| 20:45.38 | crzedmonk | beardy: sorry you hate people saying hi |
| 20:45.41 | beardy | chow: Yes, it might take a while. Did you give it time? |
| 20:45.49 | chow | beardy: as we speak |
| 20:45.50 | beardy | crzedmonk: I don't, hi. |
| 20:46.04 | crzedmonk | beardy: hi |
| 20:46.05 | crzedmonk | :D |
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| 20:46.14 | beardy | chow: Last time, did you do anything to abort it, and get the error? |
| 20:46.19 | chow | No |
| 20:46.24 | chow | I left and came back to the error |
| 20:46.35 | chow | When its finished i'll tell you the full error |
| 20:46.41 | beardy | chow: Ok. Is the disk new? Yes please. |
| 20:46.44 | chow | I cant google for it because its a long string |
| 20:46.50 | chow | beardy: yes |
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| 20:46.55 | chow | There isnt a OS on it |
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| 20:47.09 | chow | I would assume the debian installer would format it |
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| 20:47.33 | crzedmonk | how do you set the windows in lenny to open what you click in the same window and not open a new one? |
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| 20:48.18 | beardy | chow: Hmm, well, you could make an oldschool screenshot (digital camera) to check it up later. |
| 20:48.43 | chow | beardy: i just selected the "Save and write changes to hard disc" option |
| 20:48.50 | Pryon | crzedmonk: edit->preferences->behavior-> check the box that says "always open in browser windows" |
| 20:49.08 | chow | Its trying to format it now, this is where i got the error |
| 20:49.23 | beardy | chow: If you don't have a USB stick or something to mount while running the installer and save a textfile on. (You have a shell on Alt-F2, if you can use it depends .. if you know how.) |
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| 20:49.30 | crzedmonk | Pryon: thank you |
| 20:49.48 | Pryon | np |
| 20:49.56 | beardy | chow: Ok. What kind of disk is it? SATA? |
| 20:49.58 | chow | beardy: i have a usb drive |
| 20:49.59 | crzedmonk | man I am really enjoying debian |
| 20:50.11 | chow | beardy: no its IDE |
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| 20:50.29 | kobox | online boxing game http://www.kobox.org/kobox-fande-Nourine.html |
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| 20:51.19 | beardy | stew: ^^^ still on |
| 20:51.25 | beardy | chow: Ok. |
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| 20:53.50 | chow | beardy: it looks like its doing the partition |
| 20:54.07 | chow | Im glad it wasnt a 500GB |
| 20:54.15 | chow | Woulda took longer =/ |
| 20:54.29 | beardy | chow: Should be no problem, but yeah.. just give it time and don't touch :) |
| 20:55.31 | chow | heh |
| 20:55.36 | chow | Its installing the OS now |
| 20:55.44 | beardy | Great. |
| 20:55.58 | chow | And i almost was gonna have a heart attack |
| 20:56.04 | chow | I need this HD for my job |
| 20:56.16 | chow | All the files on the 40GB was filled up in a week |
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| 20:58.42 | beardy | chow: Since you got a yet unexplained error.. be sure you back it up, back it up, back it up, when you use it. |
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| 20:58.47 | beardy | !badblocks |
| 20:58.47 | dpkg | well, badblocks is badblocks(8): search device for bad blocks |
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| 20:59.35 | hamsand | !socket |
| 20:59.35 | dpkg | it has been said that socket is Normally, it's where your limbs are attached to, as in "I'm going to rip your arm out of the socket." In network speak, a socket is composed of an IP address and a port number. For example, a socket could be "206.119.148.38 port 80." See also TCP/IP and ports. |
| 20:59.46 | hamsand | !ioctl |
| 20:59.52 | beardy | !botmsg |
| 20:59.53 | dpkg | talk to me in /msg unless there is a reason to do it in the channel |
| 20:59.56 | hamsand | !nonblock |
| 20:59.59 | hamsand | !noblock |
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| 21:00.33 | mhymn | !tell hamsand -about msg the bot |
| 21:00.52 | hamsand | my bad. i will do that |
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| 21:01.46 | epsas | Hello |
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| 21:02.14 | epsas | I am trying to use make-kpkg to package a kernel that does not allow module loading |
| 21:02.28 | epsas | the package gets built, but it always fails at install |
| 21:02.35 | epsas | User postinst hook script [update-grub] exited with value 137 |
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| 21:02.51 | epsas | i am guessing that is because of mkinitrd |
| 21:02.53 | epsas | dunno |
| 21:02.59 | epsas | scratching my head all day on this one |
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| 21:03.39 | beardy | epsas: When I compile(d) my own kernels I never used initrd.. do you need it for some reason? |
| 21:03.50 | wildc4rd | evening all |
| 21:04.02 | epsas | beardy, I don't |
| 21:04.10 | epsas | i am using make-kpkg by the way |
| 21:04.18 | epsas | and i don't know what that error is in reference to |
| 21:04.31 | anAngel | Hello. I have some problems configuring amavis with postfix and dovecot with virtual domainsa and users. It doesnt put any Headers. Anyone can help me? I 'm using debian lenny |
| 21:04.35 | beardy | epsas: Yes. Good. But just deselect initrd when configuring it. |
| 21:04.42 | cmyers_work | epsas, are you running make-kpkg with the --initrd flag? |
| 21:05.01 | cmyers_work | I thoguht that without that flag, it wouldn't even build the initrd and stuff. |
| 21:05.09 | beardy | Or listen to cmyers_work. |
| 21:05.16 | beardy | It wont no. |
| 21:05.33 | cmyers_work | hasn't built a kernel in like, 6 months, so grain of salt here - and I always use initrd mostly. |
| 21:05.56 | beardy | Haven't built one since 2.4. |
| 21:05.58 | epsas | hmm |
| 21:06.14 | epsas | so i guess i need to find out why the build is failing |
| 21:06.19 | epsas | s/build/install |
| 21:06.26 | cmyers_work | it doesn't give you any helpful output, huh? =/ |
| 21:06.46 | epsas | not really |
| 21:06.55 | cmyers_work | I imagine there is some way to make it more spammy and tell you more. |
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| 21:07.02 | cmyers_work | but I don't know it off hand. that's what I'd look for. |
| 21:07.03 | beardy | epsas: Probably because of what cmyers_work said, that you use initrd but aren't building it. But yes, those errors could be a bit more helpful. |
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| 21:07.36 | epsas | http://pastebin.ca/1542336 |
| 21:08.04 | cmyers_work | oh yeh, what beardy suggests is true, if you are including initrd support, then you should use "--initrd", and if you aren't, you should make sure not to use that flag. I think the kernel config and make-kpkg invocation must agree. |
| 21:08.34 | epsas | ahh - let me see if I have initrd set in the kernel |
| 21:08.43 | beardy | epsas: Yes.. but read what cmyers_work said again about the --initrd option. |
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| 21:08.46 | epsas | i turned off loadable module support, but i might have kept that |
| 21:08.49 | cmyers_work | yeh. failing that - wow, that is a sucky error =/ maybe dpkg can be instructed to give better error msgs. |
| 21:09.02 | beardy | Oh.. sorry, had my screen scrolled up, ignore that one. |
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| 21:09.47 | epsas | yup, i had initrd support in the kernel |
| 21:09.49 | beardy | (or not, as it fit in anyway ;) ) |
| 21:09.55 | beardy | epsas: Ok. |
| 21:09.59 | cmyers_work | I always use initrd because I am a pussy, and I got tired of building broken kernels where I had forgotten this module or that module needed to mount /. with initrd, you don't have to worry about it - but I agree, using no initrd is nicer if you have the right modules built in =) |
| 21:10.11 | anAngel | Hello. I have some problems configuring amavis with postfix and dovecot with virtual domains and users. It doesn't scan/put any Headers in my mail. Anyone can help me? I 'm using debian lenny |
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| 21:11.06 | cmyers_work | anAngel: postfix is crazy hard to configure correctly, in my experience (but worth it). Is there a particular walkthrough you have been following? |
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| 21:12.00 | anAngel | cmyers_work: yes i was following - http://workaround.org/ispmail/lenny/amavis-filtering-spam-and-viruses |
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| 21:13.56 | cmyers_work | that walkthrough looks pretty good, way over my head at this point =/ wish I could be more helpful. |
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| 21:19.09 | Evil_Cat | Hi |
| 21:19.13 | Evil_Cat | i'm installing debian |
| 21:19.22 | brbrbr | thats good |
| 21:19.23 | brbrbr | -) |
| 21:19.38 | Evil_Cat | i dont know how to config ethernet |
| 21:19.45 | Evil_Cat | to access to internet |
| 21:20.02 | hyperthing | Evil_Cat: did you google up a few tutorials? |
| 21:20.15 | Evil_Cat | yes |
| 21:20.23 | Evil_Cat | thats good |
| 21:20.24 | hyperthing | Evil_Cat: and they didn't help you? |
| 21:20.29 | Evil_Cat | ou ye |
| 21:20.38 | pingouin | Evil_Cat: how are you installing debian ? |
| 21:20.47 | Evil_Cat | by DVD |
| 21:20.53 | pingouin | Evil_Cat: the installer configure your connetion usualy..well |
| 21:21.19 | pingouin | Evil_Cat: it ask if you want to use dhcp or not - give it a try |
| 21:21.27 | Evil_Cat | now is wrong |
| 21:21.29 | Evil_Cat | okey |
| 21:21.32 | Evil_Cat | :) |
| 21:21.32 | anAngel | Evil_Cat: what type is your internet access? |
| 21:21.34 | pingouin | Evil_Cat: and normaly detect your network card |
| 21:21.47 | Evil_Cat | dsl |
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| 21:22.13 | pingouin | Evil_Cat: if you have something wrong : look in /etc/network/interfaces you'll find what you need |
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| 21:22.34 | pingouin | Evil_Cat: man interfaces give you also good exemples |
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| 21:23.21 | pingouin | Evil_Cat: and if you edit this config files, dont forget to /etc/init.d/networking stop and /etc/init.d/networking start |
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| 21:23.52 | brbrbr | default "network-admin" Gnome UI tool installed ? :) |
| 21:24.04 | blast_hardcheese | Hey all! For some reason xorg only gives me an 800x600 box in the center of my screen. My xorg.conf is here: http://pastebin.org/12059 |
| 21:24.06 | brbrbr | i suspect you don't familar with ifconfig |
| 21:24.12 | blast_hardcheese | I did Xorg -configure and added the stuff for my wacom touchscreen |
| 21:24.43 | blast_hardcheese | pingouin: Also /etc/init.d/networking restart combines those two lines |
| 21:24.46 | simonrvn | "aren't familiar" |
| 21:24.56 | blast_hardcheese | but ifdown ethX; ifup ethX > * |
| 21:25.16 | blast_hardcheese | Don't know if there's a "refresh interface" command |
| 21:25.27 | gravity | blast_hardcheese: Can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log? |
| 21:25.38 | gravity | also, ew trident |
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| 21:25.44 | blast_hardcheese | gravity: Yep, a few seconds |
| 21:26.10 | brbrbr | whoa !! wait a minute ! WHAT dsl ? and how set-up. routed, bridged, what inside: atm, pp2p, ppoa? |
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| 21:27.05 | anAngel | Hello. I have some problems configuring amavis. It doesn't scan/put any Headers in my mail. Anyone can help me? I 'm using debian lenny |
| 21:27.34 | blast_hardcheese | gravity: http://pastebin.org/12068 |
| 21:28.13 | brbrbr | Evil_Cat for example, sometimes im use, ppoe bridget DSL, sometime, routed ppoa, and etc. this configured differently and you need to know what is you case |
| 21:28.43 | simonrvn | will start ignoring brbrbr's grammar ... |
| 21:29.30 | jelly-home | simonrvn: not fond of bridget? |
| 21:29.35 | brbrbr | simonrvn, forgive me if my "english" hurt you :/ its not my native and im not good in typing[big finger]too |
| 21:29.41 | simonrvn | which one? ;) |
| 21:30.02 | brbrbr | fixed 4 you: "bridged" |
| 21:30.04 | brbrbr | -) |
| 21:30.10 | simonrvn | brbrbr: it's ok, would be counter-productive for me to do so anyway, and annoying for everyone else |
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| 21:30.59 | jelly-home | simonrvn: umm... Zellweger. |
| 21:31.15 | gravity | blast_hardcheese: It seems that your monitor is giving bad hsync and vrefresh info by default for 1024x768. You'll have to specify them |
| 21:31.22 | blast_hardcheese | brbrbr: You speak well enough to be understood, which is more than can be said for many people who learn more than one language (myself included) |
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| 21:31.41 | blast_hardcheese | gravity: It's a tablet PC, shouldn't both of those be 0? |
| 21:31.53 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 21:32.57 | gravity | blast_hardcheese: No, the server still wants them to exist. You can use cvt to generate a modeline |
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| 21:33.17 | gravity | heads back to work |
| 21:33.27 | blast_hardcheese | gravity: Thanks! |
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| 21:41.02 | mandric | hello, i am looking for a way to monitor various logs from applications that I need to support and need to know when something goes wrong. is there a good tool available for this type of custom log parsing and reporting? |
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| 21:42.42 | joltcan | mandric: maybe logcheck is for you? |
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| 21:43.30 | DebianUser | I ran the command apt-get upgrade and upon reboot it gives me the command line grub. I have no experience with it and always relied on automatic settings. How do I get it to boot like normal |
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| 21:44.33 | mandric | joltcan: do you happen to know what the difference between logcheck and audit is? |
| 21:44.44 | mandric | do they serve a different purpose? |
| 21:44.46 | joltcan | mandric: Nope |
| 21:44.48 | joltcan | No idea |
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| 21:47.10 | Mac101 | hey can anyone help me deficer wats wrong with my samba setup? this is my config http://fpaste.org/2hqk/ (almost the same as the defualt which i have also tried) and i have no firewalls and i can ping |
| 21:47.32 | Mac101 | if i do smbclient -L myip on the server i get: |
| 21:47.52 | Mac101 | Server requested plaintext password but 'client plaintext auth' is disabled |
| 21:47.52 | Mac101 | tree connect failed: SUCCESS - 0 |
| 21:48.06 | Mac101 | same msg usign the default config |
| 21:48.18 | Mac101 | how can this be :( |
| 21:48.21 | joltcan | hosts deny = ALL ? |
| 21:48.40 | joltcan | since you only allow 192.168.0.1 to connect? |
| 21:48.48 | Mac101 | yeah but allow overides deny and with the defualt that line doesnt exist |
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| 21:50.19 | Mac101 | is there anything besides 'smbpasswd -a me' i need to do? |
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| 21:50.25 | joltcan | Mac101: ah, you say "encrypt passwords = no", but you still use "passdb backend = tdbsam" which needs encrypted passeds |
| 21:50.48 | joltcan | Mac101: Why not use encrypted passwds? |
| 21:51.04 | Mac101 | o yeah just turned it off as a test it been yes for most my testing |
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| 21:51.44 | joltcan | set it to yes again and do a restart |
| 21:52.11 | joltcan | But otherwise then that I see no reason why it shouldn't work |
| 21:52.18 | joltcan | restart samba that is |
| 21:52.29 | Mac101 | yeah did that already :( |
| 21:52.52 | joltcan | what does it say then? |
| 21:53.03 | Mac101 | Server requested plaintext password but 'client plaintext auth' is disabled |
| 21:53.03 | Mac101 | tree connect failed: SUCCESS - 0 |
| 21:53.18 | joltcan | do you have a regular user called "me"` |
| 21:53.19 | joltcan | ? |
| 21:53.30 | Mac101 | nope i used matt |
| 21:53.38 | Mac101 | my user account |
| 21:53.52 | joltcan | ok, but with security user you need a corresponding unix user |
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| 21:54.10 | Mac101 | does the smbpasswd maybe need to match the unix usr pass? |
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| 21:54.23 | Titan8990 | Mac101, no |
| 21:54.24 | joltcan | not the passwd, just the username |
| 21:54.45 | Titan8990 | doesn't understand why people use samba, even for winfail boxes |
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| 21:55.19 | Mac101 | i want to share a load of drives rfom the root and not see lost+found folders got an alt :( ? |
| 21:55.28 | joltcan | Mac101: So if you have an account called "matt", then do "smbpasswd -a matt" and set a username |
| 21:55.46 | Titan8990 | Mac101, webdav or ftp, depending on your security needs |
| 21:56.00 | joltcan | Mac101: you can also try and remove unix password sync = true and see if that helps |
| 21:56.01 | Titan8990 | Mac101, although, i don't see a reason to hiding the lost and found dir |
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| 21:56.45 | Mac101 | joltcan will try that now |
| 21:56.47 | purplepenguins | in a private network, samba is the easiest and most sane way to share files |
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| 21:57.32 | purplepenguins | for example, sharing files between your main computer, and the media center pc hooked up to the bigscreen tv |
| 21:57.39 | nsx | unless your private network wants file sharing for several hosts |
| 21:57.45 | nsx | smb scales very poorly :| |
| 21:57.57 | purplepenguins | several hosts? |
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| 21:58.20 | nsx | several client hosts |
| 21:58.23 | nsx | for the same machine |
| 21:58.36 | nsx | purplepenguins, when I say it scales horribly, I mean really horribly. I think after 5-10 smb connections to the same host, there's noticable nasty latency |
| 21:58.40 | purplepenguins | ah |
| 21:58.51 | purplepenguins | i only use samba on the network in my shared apartment |
| 21:58.54 | nsx | nfs can't be beat for raw performance |
| 21:59.00 | nsx | yeah for something like that it can be practical |
| 21:59.00 | purplepenguins | which would never get that heavy |
| 21:59.12 | nsx | like because, for example, xbox media center supports smb |
| 21:59.18 | purplepenguins | and there is no real useful alternative, when it's a mixed windows, mac and linux group |
| 21:59.20 | Mac101 | no luck still the same msg :( |
| 21:59.20 | nick_h | when i use mysqldump, special characters aren't encoded properly. eg: pushââ¬â¢ rather than pushâ . i've tried setting --default-character-set to "UTF8" and "latin1", but neither helps |
| 21:59.22 | nsx | as do a lot of other devices |
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| 21:59.26 | nick_h | any suggestions? |
| 21:59.38 | nsx | purplepenguins: won't nfs work for windows and mac? |
| 21:59.42 | purplepenguins | my desktop is debian, the media server is a powermac g5, my friend uses vista on his box |
| 21:59.51 | nsx | unix tools for windows or whatever? |
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| 21:59.54 | purplepenguins | i'm sure it could, but samba is supported by default |
| 21:59.58 | nsx | right |
| 22:00.16 | purplepenguins | also that would require convincing my friends that nfs is any good |
| 22:00.20 | nsx | I've never used anything other than smb for windows client machines |
| 22:00.23 | purplepenguins | which they don't entirely believe |
| 22:00.34 | nsx | why don't they? security reasons? |
| 22:00.48 | purplepenguins | ...hooray, firefox crashed again |
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| 22:01.28 | purplepenguins | i wasn't even doing anything with it |
| 22:01.31 | purplepenguins | besides running pandora |
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| 22:01.44 | purplepenguins | and had a wikipedia tab open |
| 22:02.14 | purplepenguins | nfs has a really screwed up way of working as i understand |
| 22:02.54 | purplepenguins | though that understanding is based on my reading of the UNIX haters handbook |
| 22:03.00 | purplepenguins | it might be outdated |
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| 22:03.48 | epsas | There is a Unix Haters Handbook? |
| 22:03.49 | epsas | I want |
| 22:04.30 | purplepenguins | it's a guide to what parts of unix need to be redesigned with a chainsaw |
| 22:04.51 | purplepenguins | X being one |
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| 22:06.23 | gravity | The X of today is pretty radically different than the X of that era |
| 22:07.24 | epsas | nowadays, chainsaw wouldn't suffice |
| 22:07.25 | gravity | And no one writes X apps the way that they used to either, everyone uses a toolkit like the gtk or qt, which eliminates a lot of the issues |
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| 22:10.39 | Titan8990 | gravity, wern't people using a tk for a while before that? |
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| 22:11.13 | comm | Hello, I have two nics, on two different networks, with different gateways. I want 0.0.0.0 to go out eth0, and never eth1. However route -n shows that 0.0.0.0 should go out both. How do I change this in the /etc/network/interfaces config? |
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| 22:11.40 | Titan8990 | comm, only define a single gateway unless your using CARP |
| 22:11.54 | gravity | Titan8990: As in tcl/tk? |
| 22:12.07 | gravity | Yeah, sometimes they were |
| 22:12.14 | Titan8990 | gravity, yes |
| 22:12.20 | gravity | And Xaw |
| 22:12.36 | gravity | But basically no one really writes directly to X anymore. They code to the gtk or qt |
| 22:12.50 | gravity | That wasn't true in the Xaw and Motif era |
| 22:13.30 | Titan8990 | when i did my playing around with gui programming i used pygtk |
| 22:14.07 | anAngel | Hello. I cant make amavis to scan/put any Headers in my mail. Anyone can help me? |
| 22:14.24 | Titan8990 | web interfaces is where its at for GUIs imo |
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| 22:18.55 | _budo | any utility out there extracts files from iso and bin images? |
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| 22:19.20 | Titan8990 | _budo, just mount the iso... |
| 22:19.44 | Titan8990 | _budo, be more specific on the bin images... some type of virtual hard disk? |
| 22:20.18 | _budo | mount it and read it with what ? |
| 22:20.38 | markybob | sudo mount -o loop foo.iso /mnt |
| 22:20.39 | Titan8990 | _budo, w/e your preferred file browser is |
| 22:21.16 | _budo | browsers read iso files ? |
| 22:21.20 | Titan8990 | markybob, i think that its bad habit to mount directly to /mnt and not a subdir of /mnt |
| 22:21.34 | _budo | cd image |
| 22:21.34 | markybob | Titan8990, good for you |
| 22:21.36 | Titan8990 | _budo, no, the linux system does by default |
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| 22:22.04 | Titan8990 | as long as there is support for cd/dvd filesystems in the kernel |
| 22:22.21 | Titan8990 | the file browser just lets you do whatever with the files, or you can use a terminal |
| 22:22.39 | Titan8990 | or you can do a little both and use mc :) |
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| 22:23.53 | _budo | the browser is asking me to save the file |
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| 22:24.12 | Titan8990 | _budo, you don't listen very good |
| 22:24.13 | _budo | while i want to play the files inside the image |
| 22:24.31 | Titan8990 | _budo, mount -o loop file.iso /mnt/foobar |
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| 22:25.10 | Titan8990 | _budo, the same way you mount anything else except with the -o loop |
| 22:25.40 | Titan8990 | _budo, then you view the files on the filesystem, wherever you mounted it |
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| 22:25.46 | Titan8990 | _budo, just like a real cd |
| 22:25.52 | _budo | ok thanks |
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| 22:26.49 | fas3r | i have recompile my kernel and all time when i use apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade .. apt want update my kernel how can i block it ? |
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| 22:27.56 | Titan8990 | !tell fas3r about hold |
| 22:28.10 | markybob | fas3r, you remove what you no longer use. dpkg -l 'linux-image*' |grep ^i |
| 22:28.11 | Titan8990 | fas3r, it doesn't compile the kernel, they are precompiled binaries |
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| 22:28.42 | [SomikadzE] | FUCK YOU BITCH - maza facka |
| 22:28.44 | [SomikadzE] | FUCK YOU BITCH - maza facka |
| 22:28.46 | [SomikadzE] | FUCK YOU BITCH - maza facka |
| 22:28.49 | epsas | hmm |
| 22:28.52 | [SomikadzE] | hi LOZER |
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| 22:29.03 | [SomikadzE] | ))) |
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| 22:29.15 | [SomikadzE] | o my god |
| 22:29.20 | [SomikadzE] | oh my god |
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| 22:29.31 | [SomikadzE] | I'm FROM RUSSIA |
| 22:29.33 | Titan8990 | gravity, having trouble? |
| 22:29.35 | macrobat | no ban? |
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| 22:29.46 | gravity | Yeah, wrong command |
| 22:29.49 | macrobat | :) |
| 22:30.04 | epsas | forgot the kick |
| 22:30.06 | Titan8990 | still needs to be kicked |
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| 22:31.49 | fas3r | Titan8990: what can i see with dpkg -l 'linux-image*' |grep ^i ? if is it installed ? |
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| 22:33.20 | Titan8990 | fas3r, yes |
| 22:33.40 | fas3r | Titan8990: i can block it ? |
| 22:34.19 | Titan8990 | fas3r, didn't dpkg tell you about hold? |
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| 22:34.51 | fas3r | Titan8990: ho i didn't see the private msg ^^ |
| 22:34.53 | fas3r | thank ^^ |
| 22:34.54 | Titan8990 | fas3r, yeah, check your pms, hold will stop it from upgrading |
| 22:35.00 | Titan8990 | fas3r, ah, np |
| 22:35.12 | fas3r | thank a lot |
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| 22:37.41 | oreo | hey everyone! when rejecting an email with exim and using variables in the deny message, outlook then gives me "503 Valid RCPT command must precede DATA", when it does not without a use of variables. any help would be nice |
| 22:38.07 | _budo | the linux kernel can read .bin images ? |
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| 22:38.37 | abrotman | oreo: might be more appropriate for #exim |
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| 22:39.00 | markybob | _budo, assuming you mean the bin/cue variety, use bchunk to convert it to iso, then mount that |
| 22:39.03 | oreo | abrotman: i did post in exim as well; i decided to post here in case there are exim admins who forgot to join #exim =) |
| 22:39.20 | jaggz | This call is turning ON my microphone (unmuting). ioctl(fd, SOUND_MIXER_WRITE_MIC, &mask) It does it to the LINE input too, if I use ...WRITE_LINE, &mask) ... anyone know how to stop the mic from being unmuted?? |
| 22:39.55 | Titan8990 | oreo, mind if i see your rule? |
| 22:40.23 | _budo | well thats great |
| 22:40.57 | oreo | Titan8990: http://nopaste.org/p/ajQvta2Zhb |
| 22:42.01 | oreo | (i haven't actually checked to see if the dnslists message is sent correctly since i don't have an easy way to test it :p) |
| 22:42.43 | petemc | you do |
| 22:42.48 | petemc | run the daemon in debug mode |
| 22:43.11 | petemc | the dnslist variable works for me in deny messages |
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| 22:43.51 | oreo | why wouldn't my auth message work then |
| 22:44.03 | petemc | why dont you do what ive advised twice to do and find out |
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| 22:45.32 | oreo | petemc: what's the command? |
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| 22:45.52 | petemc | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:46.03 | petemc | it prints to stderr if you want to log it |
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| 22:47.06 | Titan8990 | oreo, what is the regular expression the local_parts supposed to grab? |
| 22:47.53 | oreo | Titan8990: something that's commonly used for invalid local parts in most usages |
| 22:47.55 | E|Tomas | need help with http://paste.debian.net/45026/ |
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| 22:49.13 | oreo | petemc: http://nopaste.org/p/aFxwB1jsrb |
| 22:49.33 | E|Tomas | need help with http://paste.debian.net/45026/ i get it when i try to "remove users" and "apt-get" |
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| 22:50.56 | petemc | oreo: so outlook is failing your check on whether sender address matches authenticated_id, where did you get the idea to do this test? |
| 22:51.06 | Titan8990 | oreo, alright, it has been a long time since i have done exim |
| 22:51.07 | petemc | oreo: also, endpass is often misunderstoon |
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| 22:51.32 | Titan8990 | oreo, but i think you are requiring authentication in the wrong place |
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| 22:52.28 | Titan8990 | oreo, i believe this would prevent incoming mail from being delivered |
| 22:55.28 | Titan8990 | oreo, sorry, that is right |
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| 22:56.48 | LordBrain | who is running testing? I see this critical bug on iceweasel... Is anyone running this with no problem? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=5;bug=541323 |
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| 22:57.01 | hyperthing | \leave Hi-ho Hi-ho It's off to work I go~~ |
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| 22:57.41 | cantido | LordBrain: bugs in testing can be there for a long time |
| 22:58.08 | LordBrain | i am just wondering if it is safe to upgrade my iceweasel |
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| 22:58.16 | abrotman | LordBrain: is that your system ? |
| 22:58.21 | abrotman | i've not seen that at all |
| 22:58.21 | cantido | LordBrain: I have a feeling that bug report is from someone that doesn't have a clue also.. |
| 22:58.44 | LordBrain | yeah... i mean that's pretty major... i'd be surprised that something like that was happening to everyone... |
| 22:58.59 | cantido | LordBrain: It's probably a video driver issue |
| 22:59.13 | cantido | LordBrain: That version of iceweasel is fine here |
| 22:59.21 | abrotman | cantido: seems more like a RAM issue to me |
| 22:59.22 | LordBrain | ok, i'm going to dive in then |
| 22:59.23 | abrotman | oh well |
| 22:59.44 | abrotman | cantido: or overheating :) |
| 22:59.46 | cantido | abrotman: yeah, something like that.. flash can crash X from experience though |
| 23:00.03 | abrotman | shouldn't restart the box though |
| 23:00.27 | LordBrain | a hardware failure tho |
| 23:00.51 | cantido | LordBrain: applications shouldn't cause the machine to crash, that's the idea of these modern preemptive multitasking oses ;) |
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| 23:01.05 | LordBrain | yeah.. |
| 23:05.20 | cantido | There aren't any options for running debian on machines that don't have MMU's are there? like Debian doesn't run on uclinux does it? |
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| 23:06.05 | abrotman | !elks |
| 23:06.10 | abrotman | oh ffs |
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| 23:06.33 | abrotman | eh .. wrong thing i think |
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| 23:06.38 | cantido | googles elks |
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| 23:07.19 | dondelelcaro | !elks |
| 23:07.19 | dpkg | from memory, elks is http://elks.sf.net/ and is the Embeddable Linux Kernel Subset, a project to build a small kernel subset of Linux (which will provide more or less UNIX V7 functionality within the kernel) that can run on machines with limited processor and memory resources. The initial proposed targets are the Intel 8086 and eventually the 286's 16-bit protected mode. |
| 23:07.28 | abrotman | hey .. dpkg came back! |
| 23:07.43 | abrotman | cantido: but i don't think that was what you meant ? |
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| 23:08.48 | cantido | I have a SH2 thingy in the post, would be interesting to get debian running on it, but as far as I can tell there's no mmu |
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| 23:09.09 | cantido | the SH2-A seems to have one though |
| 23:09.09 | abrotman | yeah .. defintely not what you were asking .. sorry |
| 23:09.19 | abrotman | in the post? |
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| 23:09.45 | cantido | yeah, devkit :) |
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| 23:10.55 | abrotman | cantido: SH2? |
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| 23:11.05 | abrotman | SuperH ? |
| 23:12.34 | cantido | yeah .. just loking for the actual part, .. |
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| 23:12.51 | cantido | ＳＨï¼ï¼ï¼ï¼ï¼¦ |
| 23:13.07 | cantido | sorry, sh7144f.. crazy latin chars |
| 23:13.16 | abrotman | there was a SuperH version of debian .. not sure if it still exists |
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| 23:14.03 | abrotman | http://www.linux-sh.org/shwiki/FrontPage |
| 23:14.08 | abrotman | unless i'm still not getting the question :) |
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| 23:17.45 | fas3r | i have a lot of external server ( ~400 ) i needto backup some log on them. What's the best way .. use a script which is connect on them one by one with a list of all ip adress (in a database or something like that) ? |
| 23:18.19 | abrotman | you don't have a central logging host? |
| 23:18.28 | fas3r | no |
| 23:18.34 | dondelelcaro | well, that's thing #1 to fix |
| 23:18.49 | dondelelcaro | you should have a central logging host (possibly a few?) |
| 23:19.45 | fas3r | dondelelcaro: i know but i can't |
| 23:20.02 | abrotman | why not? |
| 23:21.00 | cantido | fas3r: aside from not logging in the right way(tm), you realise /var/log is just normal files/dirs, you can rsync that |
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| 23:22.26 | fas3r | dondelelcaro: because some server are up since 3 year (the first) and i have dev a script to work on them to take what i need and add the result in a database |
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| 23:22.30 | Jefferson | http://tnij.org/newlx |
| 23:22.34 | Jefferson | look |
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| 23:23.00 | fas3r | cantido: yes i know i use it ^^ it's just i need to purpose 5 solutions so i asking :) |
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| 23:23.43 | cantido | fas3r: password-less key on all the machines, account somewhere to rsync/scp the stuff to, cronjob,.. profit! |
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| 23:25.15 | dondelelcaro | fas3r: none of that stops you from setting up a central log host. You'll need to do some work in addition to that, but that's how you should have it configured. |
| 23:25.51 | cantido | abrotman: seems that linux-sh stuff is no go, no mmu on this part. ohwell |
| 23:26.11 | abrotman | cantido: so basically .. it's a useless hunk of bits? :) |
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| 23:27.58 | cantido | abrotman: for debian at least :) |
| 23:28.11 | abrotman | linux? |
| 23:28.57 | cantido | uclinux will work from what I can see, but nothing very new runs on uclinux, the last updates to the pages are ~2004 |
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| 23:29.11 | cantido | no love for simple chips |
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| 23:31.45 | fas3r | dondelelcaro: yes in finally the result of my work is to use a central log .. |
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| 23:32.06 | d_b | Hi, I have a problem with a .djvu file in Evince, when opening a certain document the pages are sometimes a bit messed up, other times a few pages are all black. But it's different at different times. Are there any known problems with Evince and .djvu (using Debian Stable) or could the file itself be corrupt? Also, if anyone wants to try the file I could upload it somewhere (any idea where?) |
| 23:32.49 | pl | Hello. Does anybody know why is taking so long for firefox/iceweasel 3.5 to hit unstable? |
| 23:32.56 | fas3r | dondelelcaro: and my solution with a script ? |
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| 23:33.15 | cantido | pl: maybe the dd is lazy |
| 23:33.22 | abrotman | or maybe it's buggy ? |
| 23:33.38 | abrotman | judd: versions iceweasel |
| 23:33.38 | judd | abrotman: iceweasel -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1 etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1 lenny: 3.0.6-1 sid: 3.0.12-1 squeeze: 3.0.12-1 experimental: 3.5.2-1 |
| 23:33.42 | cantido | could be in experimental too |
| 23:33.52 | cantido | yeah, there you go |
| 23:33.53 | abrotman | maybe a perfectionist! |
| 23:34.03 | pl | yes, maybe a perfectionist :) |
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| 23:34.45 | pl | but I think unstable is there to host new (and potentially buggy) software. It turns out that UNstable is often more stable then ubuntu "stable" releases |
| 23:35.43 | cantido | pl: experimental is there for testing big changes etc, maybe that's what the dd is doing |
| 23:35.45 | abrotman | but experimental is for even more buggy ? :) |
| 23:35.46 | pl | this is a personal view, of course, I'm not crying for the newest releases. I know that the maintainers try to do their best |
| 23:36.04 | cantido | pl: there is probably a post on some -dev list about what is happening |
| 23:36.47 | dondelelcaro | pl: it's uploaded to experimental; this is fairly normal while a DD is trying to figure out if the software is going to be suitable for a release |
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| 23:37.59 | Tramp | fas3r: you can connect outwards or consider connecting inwards (cron script on the 400 hosts, preferably run at a random time). Both obviously requires some scripting and both ways have advantages and disadvantages |
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