| 00:00.11 | hesco | rafb.net/paste has been discontinued - May 25, 2009 |
| 00:00.11 | jownez | i want to run debian on a 486 dx-100, so i installed it using a pII machine for cd-boot and using a 486 kernel.. now if i want to boot it on the 486, after loading and decompressing the image it hangs at "booting the kernel" |
| 00:00.44 | hesco | is nothing newer in the trash pile? |
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| 00:01.00 | shivraj | hi I installed sunjavajre6 |
| 00:01.07 | shivraj | but its now working in iceweasel |
| 00:01.19 | shivraj | *NOT |
| 00:01.25 | hesco | no offense intended. I've run a lot of code on a lot of very old machines, more power to you |
| 00:02.28 | shivraj | did you guys see that nova episode on public tv you should all fire up your PS3 and computers, SETI can now view a larger pice of the sky thanks to paul allen :) |
| 00:02.36 | shivraj | piece |
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| 00:03.22 | jownez | i would just love to see the old hardware work again.. of course there is no special need |
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| 00:04.55 | shivraj | how do I get JRE to work ? help help help |
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| 00:07.15 | hesco | I'm having some permission issues, can anyone please take a look at: http://bin.cakephp.org/view/1349842755 and offer some advice? |
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| 00:08.42 | ryanjenkins | what does it mean to compile with -fPIC? |
| 00:09.14 | ryanjenkins | is anyone even here? |
| 00:09.28 | hesco | ryanjenkins: compile what? |
| 00:09.28 | ryanjenkins | and yes, i already read the f----- man page |
| 00:09.50 | ajavid | you mean... fucking |
| 00:09.51 | ryanjenkins | like if a friend says, "i wish i was compiled with -fPIC" |
| 00:09.53 | ajavid | fucking man page |
| 00:10.11 | ryanjenkins | no bro, its a program called f----- |
| 00:10.15 | shivraj | hmm plugin huh |
| 00:10.16 | ryanjenkins | yeah, fucking |
| 00:10.36 | hesco | is that like reading the fine manual? |
| 00:10.57 | Tramp | hesco: my advice is, to add the user to the group in gshadow and then use "newgrp" |
| 00:10.59 | ryanjenkins | anyway- what does -fPIC mean for gcc? |
| 00:11.01 | ajavid | yes fucking |
| 00:11.05 | ajavid | ryanjenkins, fucking google it |
| 00:11.09 | ryanjenkins | i did |
| 00:11.09 | ajavid | goddamitf fuck. |
| 00:11.11 | ryanjenkins | 0 results |
| 00:11.20 | ajavid | "gcc compile flags fPIC" |
| 00:11.21 | ajavid | bullshit |
| 00:11.24 | hesco | thanks Tramp, will try that |
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| 00:11.25 | ajavid | 0 results my ass |
| 00:11.33 | ryanjenkins | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1C1GGLS_enUS322US322&q=-fPIC&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g7g-s1g1g-s1 |
| 00:11.41 | ajavid | don't paste in hre, we know how to search |
| 00:11.42 | ajavid | you don't |
| 00:11.57 | ryanjenkins | 0 results |
| 00:12.01 | ajavid | also learn to search |
| 00:12.15 | ajavid | -fPIC = exclude "fPIC" from search results |
| 00:12.15 | ajavid | ya dum dum |
| 00:12.18 | ajavid | :) |
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| 00:12.27 | ajavid | don't use th eminus sign |
| 00:12.29 | ryanjenkins | oh. does that make you feel better? |
| 00:12.34 | ajavid | yes |
| 00:12.37 | ryanjenkins | google my name |
| 00:12.39 | ryanjenkins | bitch |
| 00:12.39 | ajavid | yes it does, thank you dum dum :) |
| 00:12.41 | hesco | that's weird |
| 00:12.44 | hesco | $ sudo newgrp |
| 00:12.44 | hesco | root@marcus8:~# |
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| 00:14.34 | hesco | it behaved like su |
| 00:14.36 | ryanjenkins | you guys are still doucebags |
| 00:14.55 | dondelelcaro | ryanjenkins, ajavid: take it elsewhere if you must bicker. |
| 00:15.06 | ryanjenkins | i wish i was using bitchx so my exit message would be annoying |
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| 00:15.30 | ajavid | im not bickering |
| 00:15.35 | hesco | OK, I tried that: $ newgrp |
| 00:15.37 | hesco | $ touch /tmp/asd/sessions/hesco_can_write_here |
| 00:15.37 | hesco | touch: cannot touch `/tmp/asd/sessions/hesco_can_write_here': Permission denied |
| 00:15.56 | dondelelcaro | ajavid: uh... you certainly were less helpful than you could have been. If someone like that bothers you, just ignore them. |
| 00:16.04 | ajavid | I am sorry |
| 00:16.12 | ajavid | I did kinda, my bad. |
| 00:16.35 | Tramp | hesco: man newgrp |
| 00:16.43 | hesco | thanks Tramp, just did |
| 00:16.46 | hesco | $ newgrp www-data |
| 00:16.58 | Tramp | .... now we're getting somewhere ... |
| 00:16.59 | hesco | $ touch /tmp/asd/sessions/hesco_can_write_here |
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| 00:17.08 | hesco | that worked much better |
| 00:17.12 | hesco | thank you so much |
| 00:17.17 | Tramp | yw |
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| 00:17.39 | hesco | even groups seems to know about it now |
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| 00:17.57 | Tramp | If it didn't, the touch would not have worked. |
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| 00:18.34 | Alysum | hello - Im having troubles mounting NFS |
| 00:18.42 | hesco | I had been unfamiliar with that one, thanks. |
| 00:18.44 | Alysum | I get mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking. Either use '-o nolock' to keep locks local, or start statd. |
| 00:18.45 | dondelelcaro | right; the groups you are in are as they are when you logged in |
| 00:19.17 | hesco | well, that only took 45 minutes to sort out |
| 00:19.21 | hesco | ~smile~ |
| 00:19.22 | dondelelcaro | Alysum: right... so start rpc.statd on the server and have portmap listening or use nolock if you don't want remote locking... |
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| 00:21.03 | Alysum | I do have rpc.statd running according to ps |
| 00:21.23 | Alysum | Ive openned all ports listed in rpcinfo -p nfs server on the server |
| 00:21.42 | Alysum | have I missed out something? |
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| 00:21.56 | Alysum | do I need to open some ports on the client? |
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| 00:23.43 | Alysum | dondelelcaro: thoughts? |
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| 00:25.46 | dondelelcaro | Alysum: ok, and netstat -plunt; on the server shows portmap listening on 0.0.0.0, right? |
| 00:26.36 | Alysum | yes port 111 |
| 00:26.57 | dondelelcaro | Alysum: hrm... and you've got portmap running locally and listening on 127.0.0.1, right? |
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| 00:29.49 | Alysum | dondelelcaro: no portman is only listenning on 0.0.0.0:111 |
| 00:30.01 | Alysum | Ive just opened all statd ports - no luck |
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| 00:30.46 | hesco | Thank you Tramp: this is a beautiful thing! |
| 00:30.47 | hesco | All tests successful. |
| 00:30.47 | hesco | Files=12, Tests=132 |
| 00:31.01 | Tramp | Great |
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| 00:31.48 | Alysum | Ive opened like 20 ports to get nfs working and its still not.... |
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| 00:33.42 | Alysum | man NFS is a pain with aws ec2 |
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| 00:35.09 | ula | what's the easiest way to see if my built in Irda is working/has drivers? |
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| 00:35.59 | pappanz | hello. I absolutely need some help. Do anyone know how to import claws mail directly from program folders? |
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| 00:38.40 | Alysum | anymore ips dondelelcaro ? :) |
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| 00:45.11 | Alysum | please whats the complete list of ports that need to be open for nfs - im so confused |
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| 00:46.32 | dondelelcaro | Alysum: wait, you're trying to do NFS over the ec2 network? |
| 00:46.43 | Alysum | yes |
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| 00:47.05 | Alysum | server and client are using different security group so I have to add all required ports on the server |
| 00:47.06 | dondelelcaro | Alysum: I mean, almost anything in there could be going wrong, and you probably also haven't handled the UDP ports properly |
| 00:47.22 | Alysum | well I managed to get it to work with -o nolock |
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| 00:47.44 | Alysum | but now I want to start again and only open the ports I really need instead of 20 |
| 00:47.53 | Alysum | so I need 111 2049 what else? |
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| 00:48.34 | dondelelcaro | Alysum: whatever port nfs itself is listening on; the whole idea is that it could be a dynamic set of ports... |
| 00:48.57 | dondelelcaro | Alysum: generally the way you'd really do this is use something like openvpn and connect directly using NFS on the VPN |
| 00:48.59 | Alysum | whata bout the nlockmgr and mountd and status ports ? |
| 00:49.30 | Alysum | Im not familiar with VPN (yet) |
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| 00:53.34 | Alysum | so Im adding all ports again until it works - what a pita |
| 00:54.11 | Alysum | i hate nfs |
| 00:54.18 | Alysum | why does it need so many bloody ports |
| 00:54.45 | dondelelcaro | it's designed to be used over a secure link or a local network... so anytime you have to worry about what ports its using, you're generally not doing something right |
| 00:54.49 | brbrbr | NFS ? why if exist in distro ? why turned on "by default" ? |
| 00:54.57 | brbrbr | same about RPC |
| 00:55.37 | dondelelcaro | brbrbr: huh? |
| 00:55.47 | brbrbr | nevermind |
| 00:55.56 | Alysum | dondelelcaro: well it's ec2's security groups making life harder |
| 00:56.02 | Alysum | you suggest I do it over VPN? |
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| 00:57.12 | dondelelcaro | Alysum: that's how I'd do it, though admitedly, I've not mucked with EC2. |
| 00:57.41 | Alysum | ok I need to find a good tutorial then |
| 00:57.59 | samferry | hey guys |
| 00:58.17 | samferry | somebody is asking me to fix a messup someone happened to make |
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| 00:58.28 | samferry | for some reason eth0:14 is bound as the root interface, instead of eth0 |
| 00:58.33 | samferry | know of a quick fix? |
| 00:58.54 | abrotman | !tell samferry about 70 |
| 00:59.18 | Alysum | dondelelcaro: that means the nfs server is the vpn server and clients that need to mount it are vpn clients ? |
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| 00:59.30 | samferry | thanks, abrotman |
| 00:59.33 | samferry | totally blanked on that one |
| 00:59.50 | dondelelcaro | Alysum: not necessarily; anything could be the vpn server |
| 01:00.09 | timburke | samferry: did gewt break your server too? |
| 01:00.36 | abrotman | samferry: is this a Debian box? |
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| 01:02.39 | gewt | I didn't touch the interfaces, ti randomly changes |
| 01:02.48 | gewt | and, the nfs errors have always been there |
| 01:02.54 | gewt | s/changes/changed/ |
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| 01:04.17 | samferry | abrotman: unfortunately, that didn't work -- and yep, it's debian. routing error? i'm kinda stumped, i've looked over anything. |
| 01:04.19 | samferry | timburke, yup. |
| 01:04.37 | samferry | err. |
| 01:04.42 | samferry | **anything I can think of. |
| 01:04.47 | abrotman | samferry: which version ? |
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| 01:05.52 | samferry | abrotman: 5.0 |
| 01:05.54 | gewt | I did not touch the interfaces file. |
| 01:06.14 | gewt | the iP just randomly changed from the original one. |
| 01:06.14 | gewt | I was unaware of the change. |
| 01:06.15 | paissad-hp | hi all |
| 01:06.16 | paissad-hp | how can i make this cron job works please, it does work when i run from theh console but not at crontab :-( http://pastebin.com/f36486c4d |
| 01:06.19 | abrotman | wtf is going on ... |
| 01:07.06 | abrotman | samferry: put 'ifconfig -a' 'lspci -nn' 'cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules' in a pastebin |
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| 01:07.29 | samferry | absolutely. |
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| 01:08.42 | samferry | http://sprunge.us/TiQb |
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| 01:09.36 | samferry | http://sprunge.us/JMdS |
| 01:09.39 | samferry | http://sprunge.us/LbNF |
| 01:09.48 | samferry | abrotman: there you are. |
| 01:09.50 | ajavid | you could have used 1 pastebin with all 3 |
| 01:09.51 | ajavid | :) |
| 01:09.53 | abrotman | samferry: you could have put it in the same one |
| 01:09.58 | samferry | probably. |
| 01:10.04 | abrotman | i did ask for three things ? |
| 01:10.31 | gewt | http://sprunge.us/TiQb was the other one |
| 01:10.35 | gewt | might've missed it |
| 01:10.36 | abrotman | samferry: though honestly .. i don't really see a problem .. |
| 01:10.41 | abrotman | oh .. i missed the middle one |
| 01:10.43 | samferry | i just used a quick command-line paste tool. sorry, i'll compile them all into one next time. |
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| 01:10.49 | abrotman | samferry: it's okay |
| 01:10.49 | samferry | abrotman, hmm. |
| 01:10.54 | ajavid | its alright |
| 01:10.58 | abrotman | samferry: what's wrong with 15 interfaces ? |
| 01:11.18 | abrotman | realizes he might be insane now ... |
| 01:11.38 | samferry | abrotman, nothing really. but it's using the IP bound to eth0:14 instead of the one bound on eth0 for some reason. |
| 01:11.57 | abrotman | what is "it" |
| 01:12.02 | samferry | abrotman, and gewt sent some spam emails, and they came back in the headers with my rDNS. got me in a world of trouble. |
| 01:12.12 | samferry | sorry -- it being the machine in question. |
| 01:12.21 | abrotman | so the default route is via :14 ? |
| 01:12.28 | samferry | i believe so. |
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| 01:12.59 | samferry | popped up an ip-display script on my web server and opened up lynx. displayed .249 (:14) as the root. |
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| 01:13.23 | abrotman | also paste `cat /etc/network/interfaces`, `uname -a`, and `route -n` |
| 01:13.34 | samferry | comin' up. |
| 01:13.36 | gewt | samferry, FOR TEH LAST TIME |
| 01:13.38 | gewt | I DID NOT |
| 01:13.39 | gewt | KNOW |
| 01:13.40 | gewt | IT |
| 01:13.43 | gewt | WAS USIGN YOUR IP |
| 01:13.45 | samferry | oh my god. |
| 01:13.48 | gewt | I THOUGHT IT TEH TEH OLD PRIMARY ONE |
| 01:13.54 | gewt | DCAN YOU SHUT TEH HELL UP AND DROP IT? |
| 01:13.57 | gewt | I DIDN'T FRAME YOU |
| 01:14.04 | abrotman | gewt: lay off the caps |
| 01:14.17 | gewt | abrotman, sure |
| 01:14.23 | abrotman | which channel did this start in? |
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| 01:14.29 | timburke | gewt: please refrain from yelling. |
| 01:14.48 | timburke | #debian isn't a place for childish yelling.. try #ubuntu. |
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| 01:15.02 | timburke | .. only kidding of course. |
| 01:15.16 | gewt | lol |
| 01:15.46 | samferry | abrotman, http://paste2.org/p/401576 |
| 01:15.54 | gewt | isn't the definition of spam, mass-mailing? |
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| 01:16.09 | samferry | timburke, glad we ran something to inhibit him from killing the charybdis instances, 'eh? |
| 01:16.32 | abrotman | samferry: uh .. you probably only want the first stanza to have a gateway |
| 01:16.36 | samferry | hahaha. |
| 01:17.05 | samferry | so the guy who setup this lovely dedicated server obviously doesn't know what he's doing. but apparently I'm pretty 'fail' for not catching that. |
| 01:17.05 | samferry | lol |
| 01:17.28 | Tramp | paissad-hp: man 5 crontab, check the special meaning of "%" |
| 01:19.24 | simonrvn | gewt: the definition has expanded since the bastards started using other ways of promoting unsafe sex through fake little blue pills and member enlargements with emasculating implements |
| 01:19.47 | paissad-hp | Tramp, it's for escaping lines for crontab , that's what you want me to see |
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| 01:19.58 | paissad-hp | i should escape \% |
| 01:20.02 | paissad-hp | right ? |
| 01:20.11 | Tramp | paissad-hp: yes, that's what I want you to see - if the manpage says so |
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| 01:28.37 | paissad-hp | Tramp, even this does not work at crontab |
| 01:28.38 | paissad-hp | http://pastebin.com/ff607409 |
| 01:28.42 | adb_ | hi, in vbox i get `INIT: Id "T0" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes ` on .30-bpo , any thought what can may cause it ? |
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| 01:29.09 | samferry | The command to flush the route table is `route -F flush`, right? |
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| 01:29.13 | dondelelcaro | adb_: you have a serial port getty defined, and there isn't a serial port. |
| 01:29.20 | dondelelcaro | adb_: looking at /etc/inittab will make it obvious |
| 01:29.49 | dondelelcaro | samferry: just ip route flush |
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| 01:30.08 | Tramp | paissad-hp: try the full path for partimage, wherever that may be |
| 01:30.19 | adb_ | dondelelcaro: yes i'll see , thanks |
| 01:30.28 | Saz|Laptop | Ive got these strings from mencoder: "Video stream: 512.177 kbit/s (64022 B/s) size: 7087922 bytes 110.711 secs 6636 frames" and "Video stream: 1556.832 kbit/s (194604 B/s) size: 27632186 bytes 141.992 secs 8511 frames". I want to get 6636 |
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| 01:30.50 | Saz|Laptop | erm, I want to get "6636" and "8511" from then. Can someone help me with the sed/awk line for them |
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| 01:31.32 | dondelelcaro | Saz|Laptop: so sed 's/.*([0-9]+)\ frames/\\1/'; or similar. |
| 01:31.36 | abrotman | samferry: did that help? |
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| 01:33.07 | dondelelcaro | Saz|Laptop: though perl -ne 'm/.*?([0-9]+)\sframes/ && print $1' is how I'd actually do it |
| 01:34.05 | Saz|Laptop | dondelelcaro, i don't normally pipe perl to program output, but if you think it's any better I'll go with your idea |
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| 01:44.55 | mogunus | is there a graphical file manager that shows du -h for directory sizes? |
| 01:45.08 | smacnay | Hi, what is the easiest way to keep all local samba shares up and running? I am using Gnome and am wondering if there is a better alternative to Nautilus. |
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| 01:45.34 | abrotman | mogunus: oyu mean du -sh ? like windows? |
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| 01:46.11 | mogunus | abrotman: yes |
| 01:46.43 | abrotman | xfe maybe? it seems to try to emulate windows explorer |
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| 01:49.53 | smacnay | abrotman, is fuse still used? |
| 01:50.14 | abrotman | for some stuff |
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| 01:52.19 | mogunus | hmm, can't get xfe to do that |
| 01:52.36 | mogunus | Weirdly, nautilus seems to only want to count the items in folders? |
| 01:52.38 | jcranmer | when did atheros chipset get enabled in the kernel? |
| 01:53.32 | mogunus | guess I'll give konqueror a shot now |
| 01:53.37 | markybob | oh, atheros chipset. because there's only one |
| 01:53.48 | jcranmer | AR5001 |
| 01:54.02 | jcranmer | I was previously using madwifi |
| 01:54.11 | jcranmer | but obviously, that was removed from the lists |
| 01:54.36 | jcranmer | that would be ath5k, right? |
| 01:55.10 | markybob | yes. and google will tell you "since 2.6.25" |
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| 01:55.42 | jcranmer | strange, it didn't seem to work in 2.6.26 for me |
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| 01:55.57 | markybob | hardly anything works first time around |
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| 02:02.10 | Saz|Laptop | how do I get bc to return a number rounded to the nearest hundredth |
| 02:02.30 | mogunus | is there an easy way to get "sort" to sort the output of du -hs *? |
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| 02:04.05 | jcranmer | oh, it seems like I needed to unblacklist first |
| 02:04.22 | jcranmer | is it possible to conditionally blacklist? |
| 02:04.28 | jcranmer | i.e., on the kernel version? |
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| 02:09.54 | mogunus | what do people use for an IMAP email client? so far, all I know is I don't like thunderbird |
| 02:10.10 | dvs | ice dove |
| 02:10.26 | dvs | (which I guess is thunderbird) |
| 02:10.33 | mogunus | sorry, s/thunderbird/ice dove |
| 02:10.42 | x1250 | mogunus, try du -s * | sort -nr | cut -f2- | xargs du -hs 2>/dev/null |
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| 02:11.08 | mogunus | x1250: oh, thanks! that's perfect. |
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| 02:11.20 | mogunus | x1250: bash win. |
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| 02:13.32 | kevin01123 | I'm trying to encrypt a file on my system but it says no public key found. |
| 02:13.35 | kevin01123 | What's going on? |
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| 02:16.54 | mphill | are xen and openvz going to be removed in squeeze? |
| 02:18.04 | markybob | there's gotta be a mama joke somewhere in there somewhere |
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| 02:18.36 | abrotman | markybob: mama's got a squeezebox, daddy never sleeps at night |
| 02:18.52 | markybob | :P |
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| 02:29.48 | SuperMiguel | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.13 | dbbolton | when i boot my custom kernel into single user mode, it just brings me to a 'initramfs' prompt |
| 02:30.28 | dbbolton | how can i get to the correct runlevel |
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| 02:32.24 | phobos | dbbolton: sounds like you have a fubar'd kernel |
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| 02:33.18 | dbbolton | phobos i built from the debian kernel source, didnt change anything but processor, preempt model, and timer freq |
| 02:33.38 | phobos | dbbolton: Are you using squeeze? |
| 02:33.42 | dbbolton | yeah |
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| 02:34.20 | phobos | dbbolton: quick fix... run sudo update-initramfs |
| 02:34.28 | phobos | and then sudo update-grub |
| 02:34.33 | phobos | see if that does anything for you |
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| 02:35.36 | dbbolton | well i did run 'update-initramfs -c -k name' before trying to boot it, then i added the initrd line to grub.cfg manually |
| 02:37.11 | phobos | To be honest, there are so many things that could be wrong that its pretty hard to diagnose with just "it just takes me to the initram box" |
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| 02:38.38 | dbbolton | it also says "target filesystem doesnt have /sbin/init" |
| 02:38.48 | phobos | did you see any other messages such as unable to sync root fs: unknown type |
| 02:39.46 | dbbolton | mounting /sys and /proc failed, /root/sys and /root/proc no such file |
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| 02:39.57 | dbbolton | i may have forgotten to build ext4 in |
| 02:39.57 | phobos | Ok, what fs is on it? ext4? |
| 02:40.07 | dbbolton | the root is |
| 02:40.16 | phobos | actually no, that is a known issue |
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| 02:40.31 | phobos | try adding rootfstype=ext4 to the kernel boot parms |
| 02:40.51 | dbbolton | does that go on the 'linux' line in grub.cfg |
| 02:41.35 | phobos | I just added it in after the mount options like ro splash |
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| 02:42.03 | dbbolton | i'm about to just throw this POS in the garbage |
| 02:42.18 | clusty | i am having a small problem: |
| 02:42.22 | dbbolton | i haven't had any problems with squeeze on my laptop |
| 02:43.09 | adb_ | dbbolton: reinstall on ext3 , as i done .. |
| 02:43.12 | phobos | dbbolton: you aren't the only one that has problems with custom kernels and squeeze right now. Its not your fault |
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| 02:43.20 | clusty | i imported all user info into an LDAP database with migrationtools, but unfortunately all passwords are crappy (since i used shadow paswds). how can I remove the userPass attribute from LDAP ? |
| 02:43.24 | phobos | I compiled over 15 kernels and couldn't make one work |
| 02:43.36 | phobos | until I found out about that rootfstype line |
| 02:43.37 | clusty | and how can I write the /etc/shadow in a nice ldiff format ? |
| 02:43.47 | dbbolton | phobos well the biggest problem is that i can't get X working except with vesa |
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| 02:44.07 | phobos | dbbolton: Whats your vid chip? |
| 02:44.21 | adb_ | clusty: > #ldap |
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| 02:44.54 | dbbolton | my card, radeon 9600, is now legacy, and requires fglrx 9.3 (radeon driver does not work), and that version of the driver requires X 7.3 or lower, so i stuck with squeeze |
| 02:45.31 | dbbolton | but the fglrx module won't compile on 2.6.30, so i'm building an older kernel 2.6.26 |
| 02:45.55 | lafrance | hello my n00b question of the day how do I see hidden file with file browser or file manager |
| 02:46.34 | dbbolton | phobos the rootfs line brought me to the initramfs prompt as well |
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| 02:46.54 | dbbolton | i'll probably just re-install with lenny |
| 02:48.04 | adb_ | lafrance: use a web browser file:///home/lafrance/ |
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| 02:48.15 | lafrance | thank you |
| 02:48.32 | adb_ | de rien |
| 02:49.09 | adb_ | lafrance: but mc is funny too |
| 02:49.41 | lafrance | doh gee should of remember that one thanks |
| 02:49.53 | macrobat | lafrance: usually ctrl+H maybe alt + . too |
| 02:50.40 | lafrance | for apt is it call just mc ? |
| 02:50.55 | lafrance | sorry dementia here so lost quite a bit of memory |
| 02:51.36 | adb_ | for installing , yes it call just mc .. |
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| 02:53.11 | lafrance | got it :) boy did not play with mc since deb 3.0 |
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| 02:55.21 | electronicsleep | Hello I just installed a new version of lenny and when doing an update to the new kernel I get an error about /var being full but its not |
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| 02:56.10 | electronicsleep | http://pastebin.com/d2fc482e3 |
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| 02:56.50 | jcranmer | well, I kind of got atheros working |
| 02:57.07 | jcranmer | hmm |
| 02:57.13 | jcranmer | maybe I should turn the radio on first :-) |
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| 02:59.48 | abrotman | electronicsleep: where does it say /var/ ? |
| 03:00.45 | abrotman | electronicsleep: that's just the location of the package .. it usually unpacks in /tmp/ unless you've done something to change that |
| 03:01.23 | electronicsleep | abrotman, ok I see, I have not changed that |
| 03:02.02 | electronicsleep | abrotman, this is my temp 373M 11M 343M 3% |
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| 03:03.19 | abrotman | electronicsleep: put 'df -h' in a pastebin |
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| 03:04.07 | electronicsleep | abrotman, thanks http://pastebin.com/d6a7173e0 just used the default partition scheme |
| 03:04.44 | abrotman | electronicsleep: / is full .. or nearly so |
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| 03:05.40 | Lanz | Hello |
| 03:07.04 | Lanz | I'm having problems with an Atheros AR928X wireless adapter. I have the ath9k module loaded as per the instructions found at http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k but the device does not detect any networks and cannot connect when an ESSID is manually entered. I'm running Squeeze on an Asus G71 laptop. |
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| 03:08.50 | Lanz | The device seems as if it's working fine based on iwconfig and such, but dmesg shows "wlan0: link is not ready" |
| 03:09.45 | Lanz | Maybe the adapter is somehow turned off? Is the rfkill module causing problems? As far as I know, the adapter is on, because I didn't turn it off (there is no physical switch, just Fn+F2) |
| 03:10.16 | adb_ | the light is on ? |
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| 03:13.24 | Lanz | I don't think there is a light |
| 03:13.38 | Lanz | No wifi light shows up on Vista |
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| 03:15.23 | SuperMiguel | i just installed fluxbox and while trying to install fbdesk i get an error saying that fbdesk requires x window system libraries and header, few people recommend installing xfree86-devel but i cant find it.. any idea? |
| 03:15.47 | adb_ | light is a physical one on front of pc |
| 03:16.00 | adb_ | Lanz: ^^ |
| 03:16.07 | cockroach | SuperMiguel: try installing xorg-dev |
| 03:16.29 | Lanz | Oh okay I see it |
| 03:16.31 | Lanz | Hold on |
| 03:16.35 | Lanz | It's on for Vista |
| 03:16.38 | Lanz | Booting Debian |
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| 03:17.26 | electronicsleep | man I wish I could tell abrotman thanks, ill have to thank him when he returns |
| 03:18.14 | Lanz | The light is on |
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| 03:18.33 | cockroach | SuperMiguel: just curious, why aren't you using debian's fbdesk package? |
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| 03:18.50 | SuperMiguel | cockroach, how do i get it? |
| 03:18.57 | cockroach | SuperMiguel: apt-get install fbdesk |
| 03:19.01 | SuperMiguel | cockroach, umm let me try it |
| 03:19.21 | SuperMiguel | cock i feel like an idiot now :P |
| 03:19.40 | cockroach | SuperMiguel: heh, happens :) |
| 03:20.04 | SuperMiguel | cockroach, u use floxbox i guess? |
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| 03:20.31 | cockroach | SuperMiguel: no. but you can search for packages using "apt-cache search" |
| 03:21.57 | cockroach | is a proud xfce user |
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| 03:22.46 | lafrance | SuperMiguel, wait I got a even more idiot question |
| 03:23.10 | lafrance | why do I have lenny 64 bit OS install on a emachine? |
| 03:23.16 | lafrance | SysInfo: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 | Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.93GHz 2933.408 MHz | Mem: 316/1027M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 291G Free: 274G | Bogomips: 5873.38 | Screen Res: 1024x768 | Procs: 128 | | Up: | eth1: In: 12.26M Out: 0.98M |
| 03:23.28 | lafrance | not dual core |
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| 03:25.41 | adb_ | lafrance: running debian ? which version ? |
| 03:25.56 | lafrance | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:26.02 | lafrance | lenny |
| 03:26.24 | lafrance | 686 = 64 bit ? |
| 03:26.46 | adb_ | where come that ""SysInfo" command . |
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| 03:27.23 | adb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:28.10 | lafrance | ah good thank you paid 2 buck for this emachine then ad 99 buck hd |
| 03:28.31 | adb_ | anyways your P4 don't support 64 bit |
| 03:28.43 | lafrance | that ok run nice |
| 03:29.08 | lafrance | on 64 bit get grub -7 error could be my raid ? |
| 03:29.14 | SuperMiguel | is the openoffice.org package the 3.1? |
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| 03:29.48 | adb_ | what's 3.1? SuperMiguel |
| 03:30.03 | SuperMiguel | adb_, version |
| 03:30.42 | markybob | SuperMiguel, http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=openoffice.org |
| 03:30.58 | markybob | SuperMiguel, it's in lenny backports, squeeze, sid and experimental |
| 03:31.06 | markybob | so, yeah. help yourself |
| 03:31.19 | adb_ | SuperMiguel: use searching dude , we are not your slaves |
| 03:32.19 | Gratz474 | anyone here use xen? |
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| 04:02.25 | umarzuki | hi, how do i log apache2 access.log to a remote server? |
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| 04:03.38 | umarzuki | in rsyslog.conf, if i only put local0.* @remote_log_server, the remote log server wouldn't get the access log |
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| 04:05.53 | NiveusLuna | okay... i reinstalled debian squeeze from the business card CD, and now the network doesn't work. the router claims no physical connection according to its lights. |
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| 04:07.22 | NiveusLuna | it worked fine before reinstalling and during install. |
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| 04:33.31 | arnuld | is it a good idea to use an external HDD as primary drive to install Debian on ? |
| 04:33.36 | arnuld | my internal HDD burned out and external is th eonly one I left with |
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| 04:48.59 | albech | if i install the kernel version of nfs will the installer add the modules to the initramfs or do i have to do that myself? |
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| 04:54.29 | cmyers_work | albech: are you trying to boot off an NFS mount? |
| 04:54.46 | cmyers_work | I'm not sure that will work because the initrd doesn't bring up the network I don't think. |
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| 04:55.23 | albech | cmyers_work: no, but my domU want to run nfsd |
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| 04:56.01 | albech | cmyers_work: i went with the user-space version for simplicity |
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| 05:07.50 | ihategfw | hi all, im on a ssh server , how do i check my remain bandwidth quota? |
| 05:09.12 | jmarsden | ihategfw: ssh does not come with bandwidth quotas... so they must be something your ISP set up, so you'd need to check with them for how to do that. |
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| 05:11.30 | jmarsden | ihategfw: You can see how much bandwidth you have used if you look at the RX and TX byte counts on your Internet-facing ethernet interface (so probably ifconfig eth0 | grep bytes ), but that's not really going to help unless you did that before using any bandwidth at all, and remember the values for later :) |
| 05:11.40 | ihategfw | jmarsden: yeah, this ssh account i sign up for free has a 150M bandwidth quota limits. i mainly use it as a ssh tunnel to proxy my firefox |
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| 05:13.09 | albech | hmm i keep getting 'mount.nfs: No such device' when trying to mount |
| 05:13.48 | albech | but the hostname is correct and so is the mount point.. this does not looks like a problem on the server, but rather something missing on the client |
| 05:13.53 | jmarsden | ihategfw: You could try running ssh with the -v option, and then when you exit it the number of bytes sent and received will be displayed. |
| 05:14.27 | albech | ihategfw: they must have some accounting software that you can pull your stats from |
| 05:14.30 | Skipp_OSX | albech: are you running /sbin/mount.nfs? |
| 05:14.50 | Skipp_OSX | albech: or mount -t nfs? |
| 05:14.53 | albech | Skipp_OSX: yes |
| 05:15.03 | Skipp_OSX | okay |
| 05:15.31 | albech | it looks like the nfs support is not on the client, eventhough i installed nfs common and portmapper |
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| 05:17.40 | jmarsden | albech: Can other client machines connect successfully to that NFS share? Does the client that fails have any kind of firewall or packet filter between it and the NFS server? |
| 05:17.58 | ihategfw | jmarsden: i think the administrator use some method to limit my bandwidth.maybe i have to ask him how to ... and, btw , i use plink.exe to create a tunnel. |
| 05:18.39 | jmarsden | Then you are probably not running debian, so you need to find support elsewhere :) |
| 05:18.56 | albech | no other server can connect to the nfs server and no the server has no firewall running |
| 05:18.59 | ihategfw | jmarsden: the server runs on debian :) |
| 05:21.33 | ihategfw | this server is damn fast downloading a 10M file for 2 seconds |
| 05:23.16 | albech | jmarsden: yes.. the share can be mounted from my gentoo box fine |
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| 05:23.44 | albech | jmarsden: so i guess it is related to the debian client |
| 05:23.51 | cmyers_work | ihategfw: there are many programs that can monitor network traffic, including iptraf, iftop, etc. but most of them require root to operate. To get meaningful ideas of what the quota limiting software is actually looking at to determine your usage, like others here said, you probably have to ask the hosting service. |
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| 05:26.56 | ihategfw | cmyers_work: ok, i got it, thanks :p |
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| 05:28.15 | jmarsden | albech: Well, if you installed portmap and nfs-common on the client you should be all set... you just mkdir a directory to act as a mount point and then sudo mount 1.2.3.4:/someplace/on/the/server /my/new/directory and it *should* all "just work". If you add a -v flag to mount do you get any more information from it? |
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| 05:29.39 | CosmicDuck | Hi, I have trouble to register java 1.6 installed from non-free in lenny to installed oo writer installed from lenny. Installed java environments are not shown in options -> openoffice.org --> Java and adding "/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.12/jre/bin/" or any parent path did not solve the problem. Any idea? Java is needed in oowriter for the dokument create helper. |
| 05:30.10 | albech | jmarsden: http://nopaste.com/p/aI0sMqGkH |
| 05:32.00 | jmarsden | That *really* looks like a firewall/filtering issue, assuming the IP address is correct. Any software packet filtering happening on the Debian client machine? |
| 05:32.07 | CosmicDuck | Ok, found it by myself...the package openoffice.org-java-common was not installed. Sorry for asking...:-) |
| 05:33.25 | albech | jmarsden: nothing that i can see and i havent installed any |
| 05:33.38 | albech | jmarsden: its a 'fresh' system |
| 05:34.19 | jmarsden | albech: OK. You can ping the server OK from this client machine? |
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| 05:34.33 | ksnp | hi, anyone tell why with sed, sed 's/abc/ def /g' looses the spaces |
| 05:35.00 | albech | jmarsden: this is from my gentoo box: http://nopaste.com/p/aBtFS0bGy |
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| 05:35.25 | albech | jmarsden: yes, pinging just fine |
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| 05:36.16 | jmarsden | ksnp: It doesn't for me... echo xabcdefg |sed -e 's/abc/ def /' outputs x def defg which is what I would expect. |
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| 05:36.37 | km | is e-GeForce 6200 NVDIA dual display work on linux? |
| 05:36.42 | \amethyst | ksnp: are you storing the output in a variable? If so, are you using that variable later without double quotes? |
| 05:38.35 | jmarsden | albech: I'm not sure what else to suggest... sorry! Maybe you could run nmap to check the server port(s) for NFS are open from this client, or run wireshark or tcpdump to watch the traffic as the mount is attempted, but that's getting rather low level... |
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| 05:40.17 | albech | jmarsden: yes.. i think ill try to throw nfs3 server on the box instead.. i am using user-space nfs2 server apparently |
| 05:41.00 | jmarsden | albech: Sounds worth a try. |
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| 06:21.19 | ajavid | hey whats up in #debian |
| 06:21.21 | ajavid | silence... |
| 06:22.02 | brbrbr | its good, IMO ;) everything working. or everyone ;) |
| 06:22.24 | omid8bimo | feels kinda busy :D |
| 06:23.09 | ajavid | heh |
| 06:23.21 | ajavid | I'm listening to some really good music right now |
| 06:23.52 | ajavid | brbrbr, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1j6AYwP__Y |
| 06:24.18 | ajavid | Austrian Death Machine ;) dedicated to Arnold Schwartznegger (cuz he is from Austria) |
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| 06:24.53 | ajavid | whole album, they make fun of him, speaking in crazy arnold accent, talking about a 25 hour gym in each city in california, for 1 extra hour of brutal workout! |
| 06:24.57 | ajavid | lol :) |
| 06:25.30 | brbrbr | nobody actually know where A. Shwartzenegger born. acroding to some rumors, he fly to Earth from Andromeda |
| 06:25.49 | ajavid | I Am A Cybernetic Organism, Living Tissue Over (Metal) Endoskeleton |
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| 06:26.13 | ajavid | this song makes fun of terminator, another song is "youve just been erased" making fun of him in Eraser movie |
| 06:26.16 | ajavid | lol |
| 06:26.19 | ajavid | I love this band man |
| 06:26.52 | ajavid | another movie True lies, song called "Get to the Choppa" hehehe oh man, im crackin up over here |
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| 06:27.18 | brbrbr | studying sanskrit and recent tendencies in conspirology and some radiophysics papers |
| 06:27.42 | ajavid | cool |
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| 06:32.20 | iateadonut | i'm trying to tunnel through a VPS; i connect to the vps from shell with ssh -ND 9897 root@ip.address; and then set up firefox SOCKS proxy with the same info, but that doesn't work. any tips on what i could be doing different or where to start? |
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| 06:34.21 | xororand | isaywesay: |
| 06:34.29 | brbrbr | "doesn't" how ? "whre to start, imo" is dump traffic and take look inside |
| 06:35.00 | xororand | sorry. iateadonut: firefox doesn't use the SOCKS proxy for DNS by default. set network.proxy.socks_remote_dns to True |
| 06:35.53 | xororand | and you want to set the proxy to _localhost_, port 9897 |
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| 06:36.39 | iateadonut | xororand: why to localhost? |
| 06:36.44 | iateadonut | how could it know where to find it? |
| 06:36.54 | iateadonut | (it's a server in the states; i am in china) |
| 06:37.09 | xororand | iateadonut: ssh -D opens the port locally and tunnels any connections to its remote host |
| 06:37.15 | iateadonut | ah! |
| 06:37.16 | iateadonut | i see. |
| 06:37.30 | iateadonut | thank you very much. i'll try that now. |
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| 06:39.11 | iateadonut | how do i open the options thing on firefox? |
| 06:39.16 | xororand | iateadonut: don't forget to set network.proxy.socks_remote_dns to True (in about:config) as well |
| 06:39.21 | xororand | iateadonut: about:config |
| 06:40.06 | xororand | (i don't know why the firefox team chose False as the default. doesn't make much sense to me...) |
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| 06:41.11 | xororand | especially since plain DNS is so easy to censor and manipulate for middlemen |
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| 06:55.46 | iateadonut | thanks. |
| 06:55.51 | iateadonut | got it working. |
| 06:56.01 | iateadonut | pain in the ass, this china firewall. |
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| 06:56.40 | iateadonut | at least it made me get a remote debian server, though. |
| 06:56.48 | iateadonut | that should come in handy someday. |
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| 06:57.11 | man_in_shack | waves |
| 06:57.18 | man_in_shack | what happened to ia32-apt-get in sid? |
| 06:57.30 | xororand | yeah, a remote server can be very useful, iateadonut :) |
| 06:57.35 | xororand | wouldn't want to miss mine |
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| 06:58.07 | iateadonut | computers are so amazing, now. |
| 06:58.14 | man_in_shack | pfft |
| 06:58.21 | man_in_shack | computers were more amazing when they first happened |
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| 06:58.32 | iateadonut | that's so cool that i can have a remote computer running debian, and i can just ssh in and do anything at all. |
| 06:58.34 | man_in_shack | 1Hz digital calculators ftw! |
| 06:58.49 | Skipp_OSX | man_in_shack: I think they are more amazing now |
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| 06:58.56 | man_in_shack | :P |
| 06:58.57 | iateadonut | yeah, but you couldn't run a 1 Hz digital calculator from abudabi if you lived in france. |
| 06:59.09 | iateadonut | the really amazing thing is that there is so much free software. |
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| 06:59.35 | man_in_shack | i can ssh into uni's solaris systems with x11 forwarding and use their graphical apps if i really want :P |
| 06:59.37 | Skipp_OSX | iateadonut: the amazing thing is that there is so much high-quality free software |
| 06:59.53 | iateadonut | networks would seriously be a long way off without free-speech software. |
| 06:59.56 | iateadonut | yeah. |
| 06:59.56 | man_in_shack | the REALLY amazing thing is there is so much awesome opensource software :) |
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| 07:00.34 | xororand | .oO( "when we have enough free software; at our call, hackers, at our call, we'll throw out those dirty licenses; ever more, hackers, ever more. join us now and share the software; you'll be free, hackers, you'll be free." ) |
| 07:00.39 | iateadonut | it is high-quality. i can barely believe i'm on a free system now that's easier to install (i'm on mandriva on my laptop; debian is my server) than any non-free system. |
| 07:01.10 | Skipp_OSX | well, it is nice to have software that is not controlled by a vendor |
| 07:01.17 | man_in_shack | xororand, ♫ join us now and share the software; you'll be free, hackers, you'll be free! ♫ |
| 07:01.33 | Skipp_OSX | if you want to upgrade your 486 to Debian 5, sure, go ahead |
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| 07:02.22 | Skipp_OSX | if you want to put Snow Leopard on your 3 year old PPC Mac... fuck off |
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| 07:02.48 | Skipp_OSX | or your brand new non-Apple made Intel computer... fuck off |
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| 07:03.49 | OpenTokix | Skipp_OSX: Apple dont do "old" |
| 07:04.01 | OpenTokix | Skipp_OSX: Be a good boy and pay your apple tax |
| 07:04.50 | Skipp_OSX | OpenTokix: I suppose that the Debian project could do the same thing, but you could fork it and do your own thing |
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| 07:07.03 | Skipp_OSX | Jesus: Debian still supports m68k |
| 07:07.19 | Skipp_OSX | err, Jesus, ... |
| 07:09.14 | MikeSeth | Jesus saves, Ceiling Cat rsyncs |
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| 07:11.25 | rumpsy | hi friends... |
| 07:11.32 | OpenTokix | MikeSeth: lol =) |
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| 07:13.07 | rumpsy | I installed lenny in my system... i'm not having internet in my home.... after installing i found that, there's no open office suit... where can i find that, is that in cd2?? |
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| 07:16.42 | hipodilski | hi guys how to search for 2 strings in one file |
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| 07:17.24 | taras | hm just had hard X crash |
| 07:17.32 | cydork | !tell rumpsy -about which cd |
| 07:17.40 | cydork | hipodilski: man grep |
| 07:17.47 | taras | even after hdd_sleep it shows some mess in text consoles |
| 07:18.20 | rumpsy | cydork: debian image cd2 |
| 07:18.40 | cydork | rumpsy: check what dpkg has msged you.. |
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| 07:19.25 | rumpsy | cydork: okay i do.. |
| 07:19.51 | man_in_shack | so anyone know what happened to ia32-apt-get in sid? |
| 07:19.56 | taras | how to restart text consoles? |
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| 07:20.04 | taras | I don't want to reboot |
| 07:20.11 | cydork | though that openoffice is there in the first cd.. |
| 07:20.20 | man_in_shack | taras, "restart"? |
| 07:21.00 | taras | eh, man_in_shack? |
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| 07:21.32 | man_in_shack | taras, what do you mean by restart them? |
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| 07:22.12 | taras | man_in_shack: well I've started tuxracer and X crashed |
| 07:22.25 | taras | and something bad happened with consoles |
| 07:22.32 | man_in_shack | define "something bad" |
| 07:22.37 | rumpsy | cydork: i'm veiwing now list of packages in cd images. |
| 07:22.38 | taras | maybe I can take a camshot |
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| 07:23.18 | greenmang0 | taras: you can kill /bin/login process on respective ttyX |
| 07:23.35 | greenmang0 | taras: or you can kill getty |
| 07:23.49 | greenmang0 | ps aux | grep getty |
| 07:23.51 | rumpsy | cydork: in cd1 image there is no office suite.. |
| 07:24.03 | rumpsy | need to check in cd2 |
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| 07:24.25 | taras | greenmang0: and init will restart them after kill? |
| 07:24.29 | man_in_shack | taras, yes |
| 07:24.31 | cydork | rumpsy: you can search in the link which dpkg sent you.. |
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| 07:24.44 | man_in_shack | taras, i suspect your problem can be fixed with one of "reset" or "stty sane" |
| 07:24.48 | greenmang0 | taras: it will autorestart |
| 07:26.09 | rumpsy | cydork: ya its there in cd 2... i found it by.. what dpkg guided me... |
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| 07:26.43 | rumpsy | Thanks a lot... |
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| 07:28.53 | rumpsy | i'm having external web cam... how could i configure it.. to use cheese in lenny system |
| 07:29.04 | swoody | so to do a full install, I only need to download disc 1, correct? |
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| 07:29.55 | l403 | some of system files have gone missing cause of some disk errors. is there some kind of check that goes trough the file lists of installed packages and reports which packages damaged? |
| 07:30.25 | rumpsy | swoody: ya cd1 is base for lenny |
| 07:30.51 | swoody | rumpsy: ok, great, just wanted to double check, thanks :) |
| 07:31.32 | rumpsy | swoody: you can get more packages by downloading more image files in debiann org |
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| 07:32.23 | swoody | rumpsy: yeah, that's what I thought. I'm just looking to do a full system install, and then connect to the internet to download whatever packages I need after that. |
| 07:32.38 | taras | hmm neither stty sane nor reset doesn't help(even if I type reset in "blind mode" in text console) |
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| 07:33.11 | taras | uploading a picure soon |
| 07:34.29 | taras | actually when I change from X to text console - it shows like screenshot of X, but with less screensize |
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| 07:38.56 | ku0n | hello:) |
| 07:39.55 | taras | greenmang0: http://pic.ipicture.ru/uploads/090827/X7rsf3Eg7m.jpg |
| 07:40.43 | ku0n | I'm working on an embedded linux (arm), and I have a web based application I made. Now I just want to add the possibility to change the network configuration. Should I manually edit /etc/network/ineterfaces or is there any simpler tool? |
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| 07:43.15 | taras | gr |
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| 07:46.14 | taras | killing tty's manually didn't help too |
| 07:46.29 | taras | same effect as on picture |
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| 07:50.19 | rmrfchik | hmm. just strace'd firefox to find why it freeze for sec or two sometimes. The most long syscalls are mmap and madvise, it takes ~0.1, 0.2 sec to perform. |
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| 07:53.19 | taras | so what to do with text consoles? |
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| 07:57.17 | Hexch | hi, I am looking for a software like webdav/ifolder with user management. |
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| 07:57.53 | Hexch | do somebody have some suggestions ? |
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| 07:58.20 | iateadonut | what's the proper way to add a user in debian? it seems strange, i useradd user, and then passwd user, and when i logged in with user, it dropped me to the root directory and /home/user didn't exist. |
| 07:58.36 | igno | iateadonut: adduser |
| 07:58.40 | taras | iateadonut: you need an -m |
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| 07:58.57 | iateadonut | isn't it strange that it would drop me into / ? |
| 07:59.05 | iateadonut | or would i have not been able to manipulate any files? |
| 07:59.12 | iateadonut | (add an m, got it.) |
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| 08:00.29 | Agiofws | hello |
| 08:00.32 | Agiofws | what does this mean |
| 08:00.35 | Agiofws | ./makehuman: error while loading shared libraries: libpython2.6.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 08:01.24 | Agiofws | what should my python path be ? |
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| 08:02.42 | AlexC_ | morning |
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| 08:03.30 | eshat | Hi all,... I want to capture my webcam and speaker output, easiest way to do that ? I would prefere GUI tools... |
| 08:04.00 | Agiofws | hi |
| 08:04.00 | Agiofws | does debian include python 2.6 ? |
| 08:04.02 | AlexC_ | we're running Debian Lenny on a Dell PowerEdge r300 server, and a MDVault1000 SAS (uses megaraid). Now, the Dell OpenManagement Server Administrator (OMSA) officially only works with Redhat/Suse. Is there any other way of managing our disk array (such as adding new disks/shutting down disks) without OMSA? |
| 08:04.10 | Agiofws | eshat, vlc |
| 08:04.37 | AlexC_ | Agiofws, packages.debian.org |
| 08:04.53 | Agiofws | AlexC_, |
| 08:05.06 | Agiofws | apt-cache search python2.6 ? |
| 08:05.38 | AlexC_ | Agiofws, no, you can search the different versions on the link I gaev |
| 08:06.29 | Agiofws | http://imagebin.org/61276 |
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| 08:07.13 | manu_hack | so debian will change to time-based release, wow |
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| 08:07.34 | eshat | Agiofws: vlc works but I don't know how to record the output of my speakers |
| 08:07.45 | eshat | In windows that was very easy |
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| 08:09.20 | xayon | eshat: go windows then. |
| 08:09.54 | eshat | xayon: not a good advice here,... but typicall for linux users |
| 08:10.04 | eshat | they think everybody is a geek like them |
| 08:10.06 | Agiofws | can someone help me with this |
| 08:10.08 | Agiofws | ./makehuman: error while loading shared libraries: libpython2.6.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 08:10.24 | eshat | Agiofws: install libpython2.6 |
| 08:10.31 | Agiofws | eshat, can you capture any sound via vlc ? |
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| 08:10.46 | Agiofws | have you enabled capture options in in alsamixer ? |
| 08:10.53 | eshat | Agiofws: yes, if I record a video while playing it |
| 08:11.13 | soa2ii | Hi! I'm running lenny here on my server and now I want to use dovecots sieve plugin... my postfix log says |
| 08:11.14 | soa2ii | Plugin sieve not found from directory /usr/lib/dovecot/modules/lda |
| 08:11.32 | soa2ii | But I can't find this plugin... where is it? :P |
| 08:11.34 | eshat | Agiofws: sound recording works in general but I want to record the speaker output instead from the microphone |
| 08:11.50 | Agiofws | try audacity ? |
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| 08:12.06 | eshat | soa2ii: use apt-file to search for a package containing that file |
| 08:12.17 | eshat | Agiofws: but what about video then ? |
| 08:12.55 | eshat | recording seperatly seems not perfect... but at least it is a soulution |
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| 08:13.14 | soa2ii | eshat: I'm not quite sure if debian places the module at this place... imho I got it installed... the question is where. |
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| 08:13.47 | eshat | soa2ii: as root "updatedb" and then "locate filename" |
| 08:13.57 | soa2ii | ok |
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| 08:15.21 | eshat | soa2ii: found it ? |
| 08:15.46 | soa2ii | eshat: Hm... it seems that dovecot on lenny has just cmusieve built in... ? |
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| 08:16.03 | iateadonut | is tsocks a service or a library or what? |
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| 08:17.29 | cantido | Just noticed something weird, if you're inside a directory, that is a symlink to a directory some place else.. should ".." link to the directory the symlink is in or the parent directory of the actual directory? |
| 08:17.37 | g0rd0n | hello! is it possible to run windows virtualized under debian? |
| 08:17.44 | eshat | g0rd0n: sure |
| 08:17.53 | g0rd0n | eshat: with which tool? |
| 08:18.05 | g0rd0n | with hardware virtualization support of course... |
| 08:18.14 | eshat | g0rd0n: with a virtualizing software ;) |
| 08:18.24 | eshat | g0rd0n: try kvm |
| 08:18.30 | g0rd0n | will vserver do? |
| 08:18.30 | cantido | g0rd0n: both kvm and virtualbox are in debian and can use vtx or svm |
| 08:18.44 | g0rd0n | hmmm ok |
| 08:18.44 | cantido | g0rd0n: vserver is a jails system, so no |
| 08:18.45 | eshat | g0rd0n: it should, but i didn't try it yet |
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| 08:19.18 | cantido | eshat: no, vserver won't do that, it's a containment system, not a machine emulator |
| 08:19.21 | g0rd0n | cantido: oh so vserver takes no advantage of cpu virtualization? |
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| 08:19.40 | soa2ii | eshat: ok... I just treid the cmusieve ... seems to work great (: |
| 08:19.43 | cantido | g0rd0n: it doesn't need to, because everything is running on the same kernel |
| 08:19.53 | g0rd0n | ok |
| 08:19.55 | g0rd0n | right |
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| 08:20.12 | cantido | g0rd0n: so there's going to be nothing extra that needs to run in supervisor mode on the processor is there |
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| 08:25.13 | eshat | How do I record speaker outpur ? |
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| 08:26.11 | Agiofws | try audacity ? |
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| 08:27.08 | Mallxs | Hi, on my gateway server i have a portforwardeng for ssh 22022 to a host inside and to port 22 and that works ok if i try to do the same for http ie.e 22080 to 80 it does not work .... any hints ? |
| 08:27.26 | flourish | hi all, if we need to patch a package that installed by apt-get, how can we do |
| 08:27.56 | iateadonut | does anyone know anything about tsocks? is it a service? because i don't see it in /etc/init.d/ |
| 08:28.22 | fireba11 | flourish: the clean way would be to uninstall it, make your own package and install that |
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| 08:30.18 | MikeSeth | Mallxs: define 'does not work' |
| 08:30.35 | flourish | fireba11: hum, i guess when we patch a software, such as apache2, for certain reason, the patched one and the original one just have one or two different files |
| 08:31.00 | flourish | fireba11: so maybe we can just override these files with the patched one, right? |
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| 08:34.32 | Agiofws | dpkg |
| 08:34.37 | Agiofws | !dpkg help |
| 08:35.30 | Agiofws | where i can find this package in debian ? |
| 08:35.34 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:37.40 | Mallxs | MikeSeth: Dump me/sorry: I don't see the http request comming in on the inside machine not with tcpdump listing on port 80 not in my accesslog && id don't see a request going out form my gateway inside:interface |
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| 08:38.24 | Mallxs | MikeSeth: on de insde network the access to that host 80 works ok |
| 08:38.39 | MikeSeth | Mallxs: check the order of the rules in the table, maybe something else diverts/blocks the traffic |
| 08:38.45 | Agiofws | where i can find this package in debian ? |
| 08:38.46 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:40.10 | Mallxs | MikeSeth: iptables -L -v -n -t nat | head shows the two rules side by side |
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| 08:40.56 | MikeSeth | Mallxs: and zero on the rule counter? |
| 08:41.12 | Mallxs | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:41.44 | MikeSeth | and eth2 is the right iface? guess, check the rest of nat tables |
| 08:42.02 | Mallxs | O sorry how do i get the rule counter to show |
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| 08:42.19 | Mallxs | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:42.21 | MikeSeth | Mallxs: -n, 0 0 in your paste is the counter |
| 08:42.23 | Mallxs | This on works ok |
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| 08:43.48 | Zoup | do you know any reliable tools to recover files from raw partitions? |
| 08:44.24 | saulus | Zoup: which fs? |
| 08:44.45 | Zoup | saulus: i wonder if this could be without dependecy to filesystem |
| 08:44.59 | Mallxs | -n 0 0 ?? the header show pkts bytes above the 0 0 ? |
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| 08:46.45 | saulus | there are some, but I do a sudo grep -b PATTERN /dev/hdX |
| 08:47.02 | MikeSeth | Mallxs: yep |
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| 08:49.03 | Agiofws | ixus:/mnt/videos# dpkg -r makehuman_0.9-1_i386.deb |
| 08:49.03 | Agiofws | dpkg: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in |
| 08:49.03 | dpkg | I resemble that remark! |
| 08:49.04 | Agiofws | ? |
| 08:49.26 | Agiofws | whats the packages own name ? |
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| 08:59.34 | Acheron | Is there a way to get the MAC without su? |
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| 09:00.12 | Agiofws | Acheron, tcpdump ? |
| 09:00.20 | soulchild | Acheron: /sbin/ifconfig |
| 09:00.32 | Acheron | Soulchild: requires su/sudo ? :P |
| 09:00.41 | soulchild | no |
| 09:00.42 | Acheron | tcpdump? like the log files or? |
| 09:01.00 | Agiofws | use a live cd ? |
| 09:01.03 | soulchild | Acheron: just type /sbin/ifconfig ... since you are just reading, it should list your devices with MAC |
| 09:01.14 | Acheron | Oh it did work. |
| 09:01.17 | Acheron | Cool. |
| 09:01.19 | soulchild | Acheron: I said so |
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| 09:10.55 | _AnywhereIs_ | nice Agiofws :D |
| 09:11.09 | soulchild | I thought there would be more action on #debian but comparing to #ubuntu it is totally quiet here |
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| 09:11.13 | Scurz | hi |
| 09:11.58 | tawan | people here don't need to ask how to do so much stuff like on ubuntu soulchild |
| 09:12.06 | Scurz | I changed the IP of a domain, my DNS are Ok, but with a ssh to that domain, the ssh tries to open a session to the old IP, why ? |
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| 09:12.42 | soulchild | Scurz: clear your name chache daemon |
| 09:13.02 | Scurz | soulchild: already done, by restarting bind.. |
| 09:13.26 | soulchild | Scurz: some entry in /etc/hosts |
| 09:13.28 | soulchild | ? |
| 09:13.49 | Scurz | oh yes, thanks |
| 09:14.05 | Scurz | I added in the past an entry in /etc/hosts for the domain :) |
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| 09:15.07 | soulchild | that was an easy one :D |
| 09:15.27 | gypsymauro | OT: which's the best dyndns client? :) I'm going to use ddclient |
| 09:15.36 | Scurz | soulchild: hehe :D |
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| 09:16.30 | CIOCCOLATINO | hello! |
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| 09:17.08 | CIOCCOLATINO | #fllod |
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| 09:19.25 | fredl | 'lo folks, if dist-upgrade installed a deb with a bug, is there a way to find the previous version of the deb? |
| 09:19.40 | petemc | fredl: /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 09:19.45 | fredl | and no I don't have it in my archives directory as this is a new install :) |
| 09:19.54 | fredl | damn you beat me petemc :) |
| 09:19.56 | petemc | :) |
| 09:20.23 | petemc | there was snapshot.debian.net , but that is no longer maintained |
| 09:20.32 | fredl | hmm. |
| 09:21.07 | fredl | I'm trying to rebuild my system but had some PEAR packages installed and now php-pear itself is borked. |
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| 09:21.33 | fredl | so I need the php-pear 5.2.9 pkg. |
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| 09:28.38 | AlexC_ | which filesystem would give the best performance + stability for large files (such as Videos and images). Just wondering what to use for our storage arrays |
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| 09:33.14 | joltcan | jfs is fairly possible, put YMMV |
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| 09:37.13 | joltcan | AlexC_: its pretty much down to gut feeling and your history with the filesystem that can really give you an idea of which to choose, but the are comparisons like http://tservice.net.ru/~s0mbre/old/?section=projects&item=fs_contest2 |
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| 09:39.44 | Barrett | hi |
| 09:40.07 | Barrett | why the modutils package is present only in etch? |
| 09:40.10 | Barrett | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=modutils |
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| 09:41.30 | unitypunk | hey. |
| 09:41.34 | Barrett | hi |
| 09:41.42 | unitypunk | can someone explain the difference between telnet and ssh? |
| 09:42.03 | unitypunk | other then like.. its a different protocol. |
| 09:42.07 | AlexC_ | joltcan, thanks |
| 09:42.10 | joltcan | Barrett: because now that package are supreseeded by module-init-tools |
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| 09:42.45 | Barrett | joltcan, well..thanks |
| 09:42.57 | joltcan | AlexC_: The only thing I would recommend from is reiserfs, since the development seems shaky and flaky, but that is also gut feeling only |
| 09:43.04 | AlexC_ | joltcan, anything to consider if this will be an LVM partition, currently at 1TB that could grow much larger? |
| 09:43.13 | thuaug | how to compile a program from source on debian? |
| 09:43.16 | AlexC_ | yeah, reiserfs would be off the list |
| 09:43.19 | joltcan | AlexC_: no, growing is not a problem |
| 09:43.28 | thuaug | what tools do i need? |
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| 09:44.18 | fireba11 | thuaug: depends on the program but build-essentials should cover the basics |
| 09:44.57 | AlexC_ | joltcan, ok thanks |
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| 09:46.30 | scibotic | Am I the only one astounded by the stupidity surrounding the ia32-libs to ia32-apt-get transition? |
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| 09:47.59 | XayOn | scibotic: wtf? |
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| 09:48.11 | thuaug | fireba11: after install build-essentials, i install madwifi but encounters the error "/bin/sh: line 0: cd: /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/build: No such file or directory" and "Makefile.inc:66: *** /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/build is missing, please set KERNELPATH. Stop." What do these mean? |
| 09:48.39 | Agiofws | hello |
| 09:48.43 | scibotic | XayOn, Admit it, they made a mess of it. |
| 09:48.55 | Agiofws | can someone help me with this compile problem ? http://www.pastebin.ca/1544487 ? |
| 09:49.17 | Agiofws | BodySettings.cpp:54: error: 'strlen' was not declared in this scope ? |
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| 09:49.50 | scibotic | XayOn, Forcibly removing a package most 32-bit applications depended on without a provides or a dummy was just silly. |
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| 09:50.12 | Trewas | scibotic: proper multi-arch is a release goal for squeeze, and that should afaik make ia32-whatever stuff redundant |
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| 09:53.42 | scibotic | Trewas, Yep, but the transition itself was handled horribly. |
| 09:54.19 | petemc | bitching about it and being insulting isnt very productive |
| 09:54.24 | Trewas | scibotic: yeah, and there was lot of fla^H^H^Hdiscussion in d-devel |
| 09:54.59 | piko_ | Hi, I would like to boot virtualbox (tap1) from outside to install it from the host (interface eth0). I have bridge (br0) installed and the DHCP pachets are comming to br0 from tap1, but not to eth0. I have stopped my firewall, but those DHCP, resp. BOOTP requests do not get to eth0, could anyone help? |
| 09:55.02 | scibotic | Trewas, A simple provides from ia32-apt-get and an configuration notice would've saved everyone a ton of grief. |
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| 09:55.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | !sarge |
| 09:55.26 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for Debian version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Sarge security support ended on 2008-03-31, this release is no longer supported. Sarge users should upgrade to Etch, ask me about <sarge->etch>. Removed from the mirrors; ask me about <archive>, <sarge sources.list>. Get old Sarge ISOs here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.1_r8/ http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSarge |
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| 09:56.32 | piko_ | I have no idea what could be wrong |
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| 09:59.03 | scibotic | Trewas, I just thought they'd at least sort that out in experimental before unleashing it on unstable. |
| 09:59.09 | inckie | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/all/libtest-harness-perl/filelist <-- anyone know where nearly none of the files in the packages really are not there when you install it? |
| 10:00.03 | Trewas | scibotic: I don't know the details as I am not running amd64, just noticed (several) threads about that in d-devel |
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| 10:01.05 | scibotic | Trewas, Essentially they forcibly removed ia32-libs without anything to cushion the transition. Packages broke everywhere. |
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| 10:11.01 | tamiya | Hey guys |
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| 10:11.17 | tamiya | Question for the long time Linux gurus |
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| 10:13.01 | tamiya | Is there a distro, like Linux-From-Scratch, where the binaries are already compiled and they give you steps like. 1. fdisk 2. format 3. mount the disk 4. copy the kernel over. 5. copy some a few files to /bin, /etc, /sbin 6. reboot and enjoy your new LFS distro! |
| 10:14.02 | petemc | linux-not-quite-from-scratch? |
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| 10:14.15 | tamiya | I just want to learn how everything in Linux comes together but LFS is so tedious with all its compiling and I really couldn't care less with commands like ./configure --prefix=this, --enable-this --disable that |
| 10:14.16 | petemc | this channel is really for debian support, try ##linux |
| 10:14.48 | AlexC_ | tamiya, Arch Linux |
| 10:14.50 | tamiya | petermc, i know that. my question is for long term Linux users who may have heard of such a process or distro |
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| 10:15.40 | AlexC_ | tamiya, you install the base, which gives you pretty much the Kernel and some GNU tools, then you install what you want. X, KDE, SSH etc etc - set it all up. All very very simply as well, follow the Arch Beginners Guide in the wiki and you'l be fine |
| 10:16.00 | tamiya | Thanks, AlexC. I will check it out |
| 10:16.56 | tamiya | I just want the very bare base. Something that I can account for every single file (in little brain) and know what it does OR I was the one that copied it there |
| 10:17.13 | tamiya | I just want the very bare base. Something that I can account for every single file (in my little brain) and know what it does OR I was the one that copied it there |
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| 10:17.45 | AlexC_ | right, which Arch will give you |
| 10:18.19 | tamiya | No rc.0 init scripts, crons, or anything. Boot the OS kernel, load bash and thats it! |
| 10:18.37 | AlexC_ | ok, now we're just going around in circles |
| 10:18.49 | tamiya | ?? |
| 10:19.03 | AlexC_ | tamiya, Arch, go quick now |
| 10:19.12 | tamiya | will do |
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| 10:21.24 | BlueG | how do you pause or suspend aptitude? |
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| 10:22.08 | tamiya | BlueG: pull out the network cable? :) |
| 10:22.37 | adb_ | ctrl + C ? |
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| 10:23.46 | marcel_ | hi, ive i would like to run debian bleding edge what version should i download then? |
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| 10:24.25 | the-dude | marcel_: why do you want that? |
| 10:24.44 | AlexC_ | marcel_,sid would be the unstable one |
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| 10:25.14 | MJS | hey, how can I send mails via exim4 to a GMX address? |
| 10:25.47 | MJS | when I try to do this with mutt, it won't work :/ |
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| 10:27.32 | marcel_ | the-dude: because i REALLY need the latest debian packages for this system. otherwise i would just use stable of =) |
| 10:27.40 | marcel_ | AlexC_: sid == bleeding edge? |
| 10:28.09 | AlexC_ | marcel_, there is Stable, Testing and Unstable, sid = unstable |
| 10:28.10 | petemc | MJS: doesnt work |
| 10:28.11 | petemc | ? |
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| 10:28.18 | AlexC_ | marcel_, testing will become the next stable, basically |
| 10:28.21 | nsadmin | marcel_: you do understand that sid is generally not supported here... |
| 10:29.05 | marcel_ | nsadmin: i understand.. got one question though where can i download sid |
| 10:29.19 | MJS | petemc, how can I configure exim so that it works? |
| 10:29.28 | nsadmin | do you run debian now? |
| 10:29.52 | petemc | MJS: first step would be learning how to ask real questions |
| 10:29.52 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:30.02 | petemc | MJS: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 10:30.28 | nsadmin | marcel_: install stable and upgrade |
| 10:30.37 | marcel_ | nsadmin: thats the only way? |
| 10:30.38 | MJS | yes, there I choosed "internet-server" |
| 10:30.49 | koollman | Agiofws: the code is wrong. (or more likely, it's missing an include) |
| 10:31.05 | Agiofws | coders coders coders |
| 10:31.17 | koollman | developers developers developers |
| 10:31.18 | koollman | :) |
| 10:31.49 | nsadmin | marcel_: you have to be independent, otherwise you'll be stuck with something you can't get help with. if you can't find out, are you sure you can handle the instabilities of sid (of which there is more than one source) |
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| 10:32.08 | lxsameer | i have a 64bit debian how can i define 32bit chroot prefix? |
| 10:32.24 | nsadmin | marcel_: read the install guide |
| 10:32.47 | Agiofws | for_each (imageVector.begin (), imageVector.end (), deleteFunctor <Image*> ()); ? |
| 10:32.56 | marcel_ | nsadmin: ty |
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| 10:33.53 | nsadmin | marcel_: what do you need latest versions of? |
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| 10:45.49 | Bushmills | the purpose of the wcd package somehow eludes me. first, even though the man page talks about wcd command, the only executable in the package is /usr/lib/wcd/wcd.exec. secondly, it is supposed to change to another directory - but when the executable exits, of course the parent environment, including the cwd, is used again. |
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| 10:47.49 | petemc | "wcd is a program to change directory fast" - does that help? |
| 10:48.46 | marcel_ | nsadmin: firefox, xorg, gnome-core, rtorrent, mplayer ect ect |
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| 10:50.50 | Agiofws | http://codepad.org/5ylK3OI0 can someone help me here http://codepad.org/5ylK3OI0 |
| 10:50.59 | Bushmills | petemc: no. that's what is says it is supposed to do. |
| 10:51.04 | Agiofws | FileTools.h:51: error: ‘mode_t’ has not been declared |
| 10:52.48 | Evet | is back to debian |
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| 10:53.47 | petemc | Bushmills: looked at /usr/share/doc/wcd/README.Debian ? |
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| 10:55.07 | Bushmills | petemc: actually, no. but I got something function() based working |
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| 10:56.01 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:56.02 | Bushmills | but point ("look at docs") taken :) |
| 10:56.08 | petemc | :) |
| 10:57.01 | adb | Agiofws: > /j ##C |
| 10:57.06 | ix | What's the easiest way to get hold of a 2.6.31 kernel when kernel-archive.buildserver.net is down? |
| 10:57.20 | Agiofws | adb, but its in a cpp file |
| 10:57.35 | adb | even .. |
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| 11:00.12 | Agiofws | adb, nothing |
| 11:00.23 | Agiofws | thi sis a stupid error cont find anything on the web |
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| 11:01.52 | adb | Agiofws: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=456959 |
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| 11:17.06 | BlueG | does aptitude get confused if it runs into a full disk? Is it better to kill it and restart it, or suspend and resume when some disk space is cleared up? |
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| 11:17.42 | adb | Agiofws: tried MakeHuman 1.0.0 alpha3b ? heh 32 bit |
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| 11:19.31 | Scurz | hi |
| 11:19.35 | liable | BlueG: it doesn;t get confused, it just simply stops working.. |
| 11:20.00 | Scurz | in log, I get lots of lines like this http://pastebin.com/m7e4ceb61 : why ? it it important ? |
| 11:20.10 | liable | BlueG: it needs disk space to unpack archives and download shit, so if it doesnt have it, it fails |
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| 11:22.08 | neo8848 | apt-get upgrade subversion doesn't seem to upgrade debian lenny's svn from 1.5 to 1.6... how do I make this upgrade? |
| 11:23.37 | adb | judd: versions subversion |
| 11:23.42 | judd | adb: subversion -- etch: 1.4.2dfsg1-2 etch-security: 1.4.2dfsg1-3 etch-backports: 1.5.1dfsg1-1~bpo40+1 lenny: 1.5.1dfsg1-2 lenny-security: 1.5.1dfsg1-4 squeeze: 1.6.3dfsg-1 lenny-backports: 1.6.4dfsg-1~bpo50+1 sid: 1.6.5dfsg-1 |
| 11:23.59 | adb | neo8848: ^^ |
| 11:24.16 | mattt | is it necessary to use libpam-ldap to force all authentication through LDAP? |
| 11:24.19 | enouf | neo8848: /msg dpkg bpo |
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| 11:25.27 | neo8848 | sorry, does this mean i'll have to be in squeeze / sid to get to 1.6? and i can't just have the update while still on lenny? |
| 11:25.43 | enouf | neo8848: no |
| 11:25.50 | abrotman | did you /msg dpkg bpo ? |
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| 11:27.12 | enouf | Scurz: looks like some sort of weirdo ipv6 address - and no, i don't know what/why that error |
| 11:27.27 | enouf | (is) |
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| 11:27.30 | neo8848 | dpkg bpo? |
| 11:27.30 | dpkg | backports.org is an unofficial repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions. A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update. See also <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents>. |
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| 11:27.50 | g0rd0n | how can i say if hardware virtualization is enabled on my system? i have no access to the bios... |
| 11:28.10 | abrotman | look at the CPU flags |
| 11:28.15 | mattt | g0rd0n: doesn't /proc/cpuinfo reveal that? |
| 11:28.19 | enouf | erm |
| 11:28.25 | abrotman | neo8848: /msg dpkg bpo .. it's an irc command |
| 11:28.39 | g0rd0n | ermm what should hte flag be called like? |
| 11:28.42 | enouf | CPU flags will only tell you if it's available, not if it's enabled |
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| 11:28.54 | enouf | g0rd0n: svm, or vmx |
| 11:28.59 | enouf | !kvm |
| 11:28.59 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, kvm is kernel virtual memory, or keyboard/video/mouse. Kernel-based Virtual Machine, see http://wiki.debian.org/KVM for installation instructions. Also alsk me about <literal xve>. http://www.linux-kvm.org/ #kvm on irc.freenode.net. See also <virtualization>. |
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| 11:29.43 | neo8848 | oh.. ok, thanks |
| 11:29.56 | Scurz | enouf: ok ;/ |
| 11:30.08 | g0rd0n | so if i see the svm flag, does it mean it's enabled in the bios, or just that the cpu supports it? |
| 11:30.14 | enouf | g0rd0n: possible, perhaps; one of dmidecode, lshw, hwinfo (or even lshal) would show you if 'enabled', though i doubt it |
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| 11:30.25 | enouf | g0rd0n: the latter |
| 11:30.30 | g0rd0n | oh |
| 11:30.35 | g0rd0n | then it's useless to me :P |
| 11:30.45 | enouf | g0rd0n: and... sometimes, the CPUsupports it, but the vendor disabled it |
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| 11:31.04 | g0rd0n | enouf: that' what i'm trying to find out |
| 11:31.18 | enouf | so - there's not even a BIOS option, - you'd have to hack the BIOS code ;-) |
| 11:31.58 | g0rd0n | enouf: dammit :P |
| 11:32.10 | enouf | you also _might_ somehow be able to obtainthe info from /proc/kcore, or /dev/mem, but that too .. is very if-fy |
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| 11:32.32 | enouf | g0rd0n: ask in ##kernel perhaps too |
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| 11:32.48 | g0rd0n | enouf: good idea |
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| 11:34.28 | abrotman | g0rd0n: FWIW .. most of the vendors that disable them do it for laptops, not desktops/servers AIUI |
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| 11:37.02 | g0rd0n | abrotman: yeh, i hacked my vaio's efi to enable that... but basically i have a root server, so maybe my provider disabled it... but they won't tell me |
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| 11:50.04 | Evet | vserver or xen or what? |
| 11:51.22 | Hexch | Evet: vmware |
| 11:51.39 | neo8848 | hahaaaaaaaaa |
| 11:51.45 | Hexch | esxi is free |
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| 11:51.49 | neo8848 | thanks guys, thankyouthankyouthankyou |
| 11:52.00 | Evet | Hexch, i want foss |
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| 11:52.56 | abrotman | vserver and xen don't really do the same thing |
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| 11:56.21 | Acheron | uh how do you fix a kernel panic? :P |
| 11:57.06 | lsd | Acheron, valium and a hug |
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| 11:58.34 | pbn | Hi, if I restart the ssh daemon, this will not kill all current ssh connections, right ? |
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| 11:59.28 | Agiofws | adb, for debian ? i tried it |
| 11:59.34 | Evet | pbi_, why not? |
| 11:59.45 | abrotman | pbn: no, it should not |
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| 11:59.58 | pbn | Evet, abrotman : jsut checking to besure... |
| 12:00.12 | abrotman | pbn: you could start a screen session if you've got something important going on |
| 12:00.18 | lsd | was about to say that ^^^^ |
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| 12:10.06 | apsta | i've installed a fresh vesion of debian with CD1 (GNOME), but after installing some softwares now everytime when performing *apt-get install* i received this message: http://pastebin.com/m7e5eaf65. seems like debian wants me to remove gnome-deskop, which is really annoying. is there a solution? |
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| 12:11.14 | cantido | !it |
| 12:11.15 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
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| 12:11.45 | enry | Tnx ;D |
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| 12:12.55 | Ironhand | hello, can someone tell me how reliable & robust the NFS implementation (kernel-server with nfsv3) in current Debian Stable is with regards to file locking? specifically, I'd like to store SQLite3 databases on NFS shares on a network with all systems running Debian |
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| 12:13.35 | cantido | Ironhand: there are two implementations |
| 12:13.57 | cantido | I think functionality is as-per the NFS spec though |
| 12:14.37 | Ironhand | cantido: as I understand it, the "common" issue with locking in NFS is mostly due to dodginess in the specific implementations, so that's why I was asking |
| 12:14.47 | Ironhand | cantido: which two implementations would those be? |
| 12:15.09 | cantido | There's a userland daemon and one inside the kernel itself |
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| 12:15.54 | Ironhand | yeah, as mentioned I'm running the kernel implementation |
| 12:16.06 | Ironhand | (afaik the userland supports nfsv2 only, or maybe that's no longer true) |
| 12:16.45 | cantido | oh, didn't read that.. I think the kernel server does up to nfsv4, but I'm not sure it's changed all that much in the last few years |
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| 12:17.56 | cantido | Ironhand: http://nfs.sourceforge.net/ -- seems to have all the info you need |
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| 12:19.50 | cH40z-Lord | which works on linux for newline in a shell-script: \r or \n ? |
| 12:20.07 | Ironhand | cantido: thanks - unfortunately I can't find anything on that page specifically about Debian's nfsv3 implementation |
| 12:20.14 | cantido | cH40z-Lord: echo adds a newline automatically |
| 12:20.27 | cantido | Ironhand: because debian doesn't have one.. it's in the kernel |
| 12:21.04 | AlexC_ | morning |
| 12:21.07 | cH40z-Lord | I'm creating a xml by grabbing svnlook and I want a newline for every new affected/changed file |
| 12:21.17 | AlexC_ | is it possible to expand JFS partitions while the device is mounted? |
| 12:21.24 | AlexC_ | (they are using LVM) |
| 12:21.26 | cH40z-Lord | and I'm looking throught he files |
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| 12:21.47 | cH40z-Lord | http://pastebin.com/d64f86134 |
| 12:21.58 | cH40z-Lord | and I just want a new line for every new <file></file> :) |
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| 12:22.31 | Ironhand | yeah, but the kernel is part of Debian, so I'm basically trying to figure this out for the linux kernel nfsv3 daemon - except I'm not sure whether Debian kernel patches change/fix anything about the NFS implementation |
| 12:23.49 | cantido | Ironhand: check the changelog for the kernel you're running, I don't think something like that would change in debian without going through the normal kernel development people first though |
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| 12:26.32 | Ironhand | cantido: there's quite a few NFS modifications listed in the Debian changelog for my kernel (24), however I'm not experienced enough in kernel programming matters to decipher them into something that indicates whether nfsv3 locking can be relied on |
| 12:27.46 | cantido | cH40z-Lord: inside the look? |
| 12:27.49 | cantido | cH40z-Lord: loop |
| 12:27.56 | cH40z-Lord | yes |
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| 12:28.24 | cantido | cH40z-Lord: if you echo out something in each itteration of that loop it'll get a new line.. |
| 12:28.43 | cH40z-Lord | isn't echo for output in my console ? |
| 12:28.51 | cH40z-Lord | I don't want any output in console :p only in the xml :D |
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| 12:29.14 | cantido | cH40z-Lord: echo "redirection is fun" > thisfileisfun.txt |
| 12:29.27 | cantido | actually you'll want >> there |
| 12:30.00 | cH40z-Lord | ahh |
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| 12:32.23 | Ironhand | cH40z-Lord: in your existing script you can just put an extra literal newline after the '(cat <<EOF' line or before the 'EOF' line, should be the cleanest way to do it |
| 12:32.45 | cH40z-Lord | hmm o.o |
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| 12:32.54 | Ironhand | cH40z-Lord: but in general linux systems use \n for newline, not \r |
| 12:33.21 | cH40z-Lord | okay :) thank you |
| 12:33.40 | cantido | lets hope that variable doesn't get too big though ;) |
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| 12:33.49 | cH40z-Lord | http://pastebin.com/d5a145f57 |
| 12:33.52 | cH40z-Lord | this is how it looks currently :P |
| 12:34.20 | cH40z-Lord | I'll try the \r in a few minutes :) got to fix something else first =D |
| 12:34.29 | Ironhand | ahhhh sorry, I mistook the part you meant |
| 12:34.31 | cantido | cH40z-Lord: you could run it through a formatter |
| 12:34.44 | cH40z-Lord | cantido I do this locally if I paste the xml |
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| 12:34.55 | cH40z-Lord | I've made the experience that some XMLs are not formatted ( no new lines etc ) |
| 12:35.01 | cH40z-Lord | so I think I don't really need it =D |
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| 12:35.11 | cH40z-Lord | it would be just nice to see it if I look at it |
| 12:35.35 | enouf | cH40z-Lord: the xml2 pkg might prove useful to you - some examples shown; http://ofb.net/~egnor/xml2/examples |
| 12:35.36 | cantido | you could just dump out your stuff with your script and then have it tidied up by some formatter |
| 12:36.27 | Ironhand | cH40z-Lord: just add the newline literally in the "files=" variable assignment |
| 12:36.36 | cH40z-Lord | okay :) |
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| 12:37.42 | Ironhand | cH40z-Lord: I just made an amendment on your pastebin page |
| 12:37.45 | Ironhand | to show what I meant |
| 12:37.54 | Ironhand | (note the " moved to the next line) |
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| 12:38.16 | Ironhand | http://pastebin.com/m52cb05a7 |
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| 12:39.33 | cantido | why not just output the lines directly into the file :/ |
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| 12:40.39 | cantido | Ironhand: just have a thought, but locking isn't actually handled by nfs is it? I thought there was a locking daemon for that |
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| 12:41.02 | cH40z-Lord | this works fine Ironhand :) |
| 12:41.12 | cH40z-Lord | thanks =) |
| 12:41.16 | Ironhand | cantido: well yes, but I consider that part of "the NFS implementation" |
| 12:41.19 | Ironhand | you're welcome |
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| 12:42.06 | iateadonut | i have a VPS, i use it as a SOCKS proxy. is it possible to check how much transfer a single user uses? |
| 12:42.34 | cantido | iateadonut: a single user of what? the socks proxy? |
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| 12:46.39 | ib_ | hello, i want to type bold, italic, underline etc characters in emacs. how can i do it? |
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| 12:47.50 | tonsofpcs | use a wysiwyg editor or use a markup languaage.... |
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| 12:48.07 | anssarry | hi |
| 12:48.18 | tonsofpcs | hai |
| 12:48.19 | iateadonut | cantido... each user would be given a username on the debian server, and then that person would only be connected through the SOCKS proxy through that username. |
| 12:48.19 | cH40z-Lord | is there any try-catch-block available :P |
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| 12:48.33 | cH40z-Lord | for trying to delete a file using "rm", but if it fails that I don't get any output ? |
| 12:48.47 | Ironhand | rm myfile 2>/dev/null |
| 12:48.49 | cH40z-Lord | or just a if to see if a file is available :> |
| 12:48.57 | anssarry | am using crunchbang can it cant detect another partions |
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| 12:49.07 | Ironhand | to check if a file exists: test -e myfile |
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| 12:49.49 | cH40z-Lord | o.o |
| 12:49.54 | cantido | iateadonut: you will have to get the stats out of the socks proxy, I think there is a iptables thing for accounting a users processes, but your socks process won't be running as each of your users will it |
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| 12:50.27 | cH40z-Lord | test doesn't really work ^^ or I don't see the sense in getting no output if a file exists or not :P |
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| 12:50.43 | iateadonut | "socks process won't be running as each of your users" - what does this mean? |
| 12:50.47 | Ironhand | cH40z-Lord: test gives you a return value of true or false, that you can use |
| 12:50.56 | cH40z-Lord | ahhh thanks :) |
| 12:51.07 | Ironhand | such as: test -e myfile && echo "YES" || echo "NO" |
| 12:51.54 | cantido | iateadonut: your socks procy will be running as root or some other user,.. |
| 12:52.43 | iateadonut | i'm logged in now as a user... what's the name of the process i would ps for? |
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| 12:53.08 | eeepc | hi guys |
| 12:53.16 | eeepc | i have a problem with asus eee pc |
| 12:53.25 | cantido | iateadonut: the socks proxy server you are using should have some way of outputting stats, you haven't told us what you're using though |
| 12:53.26 | eeepc | i think it has debian 4 on it |
| 12:53.45 | eeepc | it just flashes screens (it's not frozen) |
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| 12:53.51 | iateadonut | i really don't know. i just got a debian box and ssh'ed into it. |
| 12:54.02 | eeepc | like it is trying out resolutions |
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| 12:54.40 | eeepc | when i press power button it does shut down, so it is definitely not frozen |
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| 12:55.17 | eeepc | i tried ctrl+alt+f1 f2 f3 .... and it doesn't lead me to the console |
| 12:55.20 | cantido | iateadonut: um, you might want to find that out then instead of expecting people to be able to know things that even you don't know.. |
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| 12:55.44 | Ironhand | eeepc: does ctrl+alt+backspace do anything? |
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| 12:55.54 | eeepc | Ironhand: one sec pls |
| 12:56.25 | iateadonut | analyzing the processes now... appreciate your help and patience. |
| 12:56.39 | eeepc | Ironhand: nope, nothing... |
| 12:56.44 | eeepc | still flashes |
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| 12:57.46 | Ironhand | eeepc: hmmm, in that case you'll have to try and get to a console in another way... you can either SSH to it if it's running sshd; or you could boot into single user mode (which I don't know how to do on the Eee PC), or you could try booting from an alternate medium such as a bootable USB drive |
| 12:57.51 | cantido | iateadonut: iptables can have rules based on the process it comes from.. which you could tie up to a user. But that wont work in this case. You'll need to get stats out of the socks proxy. |
| 12:57.54 | eeepc | while flashing I think it shows info screen of vga, like one that you see when turning on desktop pc - bios from vga or something |
| 12:58.22 | cantido | eeepc: where is it flashing though? once X starts? |
| 12:58.24 | eeepc | Ironhand: it does boot from external usb |
| 12:58.29 | eeepc | cantido: yes |
| 12:58.31 | pngwn | !tell eeepc -about eeepc |
| 12:58.31 | doubleclick | i'm on eeepc curently but don't know how can i help... |
| 12:58.50 | cH40z-Lord | Ironhand I'm sorry to bother again... lol but I can't get it working to use "test -e" inside a if xD |
| 12:58.50 | Ironhand | eeepc: sounds like some problem with the graphics driver/settings, but can't tell you much more useful than that |
| 12:58.52 | cantido | eeepc: so you can see the normal virtual terminal fine before it starts X? |
| 12:58.53 | doubleclick | my xorg.conf doesn't have anything useful in it |
| 12:59.01 | cH40z-Lord | I really need to learn how bash-programming works :) it is really interesting |
| 12:59.04 | man_in_shack | hmm |
| 12:59.09 | Ironhand | cH40z-Lord: no worries at all - got a pastebin link to what you have so far? |
| 12:59.31 | eeepc | cantido: all I can see is system is starting, and when i press power - system is shutting down |
| 12:59.46 | eeepc | sorry guys, dpkg just told me to enter other room |
| 12:59.49 | cH40z-Lord | oh wait I think I found the mistake x) |
| 12:59.51 | eeepc | thanks anyway |
| 12:59.56 | eeepc | I appreciate it |
| 12:59.59 | cantido | eeepc: so, you can see the text coming up about daemons getting started? |
| 13:00.08 | Ironhand | cH40z-Lord: yup, bash can be quite useful for quick effective scripts - be careful though, it's not the most "clean" of programming languages, so if you want to learn programming in general you are probably best off starting somewhere else or you'll learn some bad habits that are hard to lose |
| 13:00.18 | cantido | eeepc: sounds like an issue with X, maybe driver or some config thing |
| 13:00.18 | doubleclick | eeepc: when you press ALT+F2 of F3 you should get the login terminal... |
| 13:00.34 | cH40z-Lord | Ironhand I know c# :) but it is mostly only for windows ( except mono ) |
| 13:00.34 | doubleclick | eeepc: so you can go and check the xorg.conf |
| 13:00.38 | eeepc | doubleclick: he won't let me |
| 13:00.46 | eeepc | no xorg.conf file |
| 13:00.48 | doubleclick | CTRL+ALT+F2 |
| 13:00.55 | doubleclick | hm.. |
| 13:01.00 | cH40z-Lord | Ironhand http://pastebin.com/d3a89a700 nothing works :D |
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| 13:01.13 | cantido | eeepc: use the single user option from grub and look at the Xorg log.. |
| 13:01.19 | eeepc | cantido: I presume that, but can't really do anything until i boot into shell |
| 13:01.27 | g00se | eeepc: try booting with bog standard video (vesafb?) |
| 13:01.28 | iateadonut | i'm guessing sshd is the proxy. |
| 13:01.46 | cantido | iateadonut: sshd is openssh |
| 13:01.48 | eeepc | cantido: i pressed E and Tab on boot, but it doesn't give me grub options |
| 13:02.04 | eeepc | g00se: i can't do anything yet |
| 13:02.11 | cantido | eeepc: you should have a normal line for each kernel, and a single user or recovery mode line for each.. |
| 13:02.14 | Ironhand | cH40z-Lord: you don't have to put the whole [ '' = "TRUE" type stuff around it... just a sec |
| 13:02.26 | eeepc | g00se: there is still no way of typing or doing anything, just power-on, power-off |
| 13:02.37 | g00se | eeepc: the first thing you must discover is how to get the boot options |
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| 13:02.52 | cH40z-Lord | ah... I just read a small tutorial on how to use if's in bash ;) |
| 13:03.04 | eeepc | cantido: I understand, but I can't figure out which button brings me to grub menu |
| 13:03.14 | eeepc | cantido: it starts without any delay |
| 13:03.22 | cantido | eeepc: it should come up before boot.. maybe you have lilo instead? |
| 13:03.25 | Ironhand | cH40z-Lord: http://pastebin.com/m710f117f should work |
| 13:03.39 | eeepc | cantido: in which case I should press... what? |
| 13:03.41 | Ironhand | cH40z-Lord: also quoted your filename there, which is generally good practice |
| 13:03.50 | cantido | eeepc: bash control just after the bios stuff has gone |
| 13:03.50 | cH40z-Lord | okay :) |
| 13:03.56 | cH40z-Lord | I'll try it <3 thanks |
| 13:04.08 | g00se | eeepc: don't 'figure out' - *find* out ;-) |
| 13:04.20 | cH40z-Lord | do I need to quote it too if I replace the filepath with a variable ? |
| 13:04.22 | Ironhand | cH40z-Lord: and if you're learning bash through examples that involve deleting files I *strongly* recommend you make backups of everything first :-P |
| 13:04.27 | eeepc | cantido: sorry, bash control is ~ ? |
| 13:04.33 | cH40z-Lord | hehe :D |
| 13:04.35 | cantido | eeepc: ctrl |
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| 13:04.43 | cantido | eeepc: bash - to press with force |
| 13:05.18 | eeepc | cantido: oh, sorry, got little mixed up with expressions :) |
| 13:05.21 | doubleclick | cantido: that was confusing :) |
| 13:05.21 | cantido | eeepc: e.g. he bashed the control key to enter lilo's menu |
| 13:05.27 | eeepc | cantido: |
| 13:05.29 | cH40z-Lord | Ironhand yay it works :) thank you <3 |
| 13:05.33 | eeepc | cantido: thnks |
| 13:05.36 | enouf | smash == bash ? |
| 13:05.38 | cantido | doubleclick: pretty standard english |
| 13:05.38 | eeepc | trying it now |
| 13:05.39 | Ironhand | cH40z-Lord: yw |
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| 13:05.45 | iateadonut | cantido: ha ha |
| 13:05.48 | cantido | enouf: smash is louder I think |
| 13:05.53 | enouf | pound, hammer, slam ... |
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| 13:06.18 | enouf | bash, is what i do to this keyboard often :-P |
| 13:06.18 | eeepc | nope, ctrl doesn't do the job |
| 13:06.35 | cantido | mmm who installed it? |
| 13:06.37 | iateadonut | are you running debian on the eeepc? |
| 13:06.55 | eeepc | iateadonut: i am not 100% sure, but I think it is debian |
| 13:07.01 | cantido | AFAIK you can't actually totally get rid of grub's menu :/ so it much be lilo or something else |
| 13:07.11 | cantido | s/much/must/ |
| 13:07.21 | eeepc | cantido: yea, i get it |
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| 13:07.49 | DrRabbit | hi |
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| 13:07.54 | DrRabbit | http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/openvpn |
| 13:07.56 | eeepc | well, off to the eeepc channel, maybe they will know something about their product |
| 13:07.59 | DrRabbit | I need some help with that |
| 13:08.05 | eeepc | thanks guys again |
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| 13:08.14 | cantido | eeepc: its hard to tell what going on if you dont know what it is though |
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| 13:08.19 | DrRabbit | on step 5, what does it mean by the server's X? |
| 13:08.20 | petemc | DrRabbit: the guide on openvpns site is much more complete |
| 13:08.23 | Leviathan | http://darktanis.mondozoo.com everything is in thereeverything is in there |
| 13:08.30 | eeepc | i agree |
| 13:08.33 | eeepc | bye |
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| 13:08.50 | DrRabbit | petemc: is that like the X display though? |
| 13:08.54 | Ironhand | hmmmm doesn't the eee pc run Xandros by default? |
| 13:08.54 | DrRabbit | like, :0? |
| 13:08.56 | Ironhand | oops he's gone |
| 13:09.08 | petemc | DrRabbit: i dont know what you mean by that |
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| 13:09.40 | DrRabbit | petemc: on the debian wiki there, what does it mean by the "server's X"? |
| 13:09.41 | doubleclick | Ironhand: it does |
| 13:09.46 | cantido | DrRabbit: I think it just means the ip of the openvpn server |
| 13:10.00 | DrRabbit | oh |
| 13:10.00 | petemc | DrRabbit: the servers ip address |
| 13:10.04 | DrRabbit | okay |
| 13:10.12 | cantido | DrRabbit: I think it's mean to be server X's |
| 13:10.13 | abrotman | Leviathan: please spam somewhere else |
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| 13:13.02 | Leviathan | http://darktanis.mondozoo.com everything is in thereeverything is in there |
| 13:13.12 | neo8848 | loves debian more.. thanks guys |
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| 13:13.33 | DrRabbit | somebody should report that spammer to #freenode |
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| 13:13.47 | cantido | shame deb doesnt love ian no more hehehe |
| 13:13.54 | DrRabbit | he's in ##linux and #gentoo as well |
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| 13:14.14 | Ironhand | I'm not seeing any spam? or is some filter affecting me? |
| 13:14.28 | DrRabbit | 06:13 < Leviathan> http://darktanis.mondozoo.com everything is in thereeverything is in there |
| 13:14.36 | petemc | no need to repeat it |
| 13:14.41 | pngwn | heh |
| 13:14.57 | DrRabbit | sorry :< |
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| 13:15.03 | Ironhand | sorry, my bad - I asked |
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| 13:15.15 | Ironhand | and it seems that the filter in question was just me being blind... |
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| 13:17.40 | markvandenborre | I'm trying to include a package version from backports in a preseed |
| 13:17.52 | markvandenborre | and I'm a bit lost |
| 13:17.59 | markvandenborre | anyone with an idea on how to do that? |
| 13:18.15 | markvandenborre | I already seem to have the backports repository correctly added to the preseed file |
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| 13:19.43 | enouf | markvandenborre: well, not sure; but if staying within the confines of Lenny, to install from backports requires a 'apt-get -t backports .. ' option, doesn't it? |
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| 13:20.01 | markvandenborre | enouf: yes, of course |
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| 13:20.17 | markvandenborre | the question is how to auto do that from within a preseeding script |
| 13:20.20 | jpinx-eeepc | it's aptitude -t lennybackports |
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| 13:20.33 | jpinx-eeepc | sorry - lenny-backports |
| 13:20.39 | enouf | so, using that repo as a preseed option, how would you incorporate that? |
| 13:21.16 | enouf | all i can say is; poke around here http://hands.com/d-i/ |
| 13:23.03 | enouf | markvandenborre: might try the #debian-{user,boot} mailing list(s) if you really get stuck |
| 13:23.14 | markvandenborre | thx for the hint |
| 13:23.24 | markvandenborre | will poke around the wiki |
| 13:23.49 | markvandenborre | first; http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed has a _lot_ of interesting information |
| 13:23.58 | enouf | bingo |
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| 13:24.40 | pippijn | hi all |
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| 13:24.54 | pippijn | how do I close the ITP bug? |
| 13:25.06 | abrotman | create the package! |
| 13:25.10 | enouf | the <preseed> factoid lists that URL |
| 13:25.18 | pippijn | I have created the package |
| 13:25.34 | pippijn | do I need to state the fact that I did so explicitly, somewhere? |
| 13:25.35 | mphill | part |
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| 13:28.07 | pippijn | oh, that warning is not for non-debian packages? |
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| 13:28.49 | pippijn | I got it |
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| 13:30.51 | adb | Agiofws: MakeHuman 1.0.0 alpha3b 32 bit works on lenny .. |
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| 13:31.11 | abrotman | pippijn: you could append the bug and mark it closed i guess .. |
| 13:31.18 | pippijn | yes |
| 13:31.20 | pippijn | I did that |
| 13:31.24 | pippijn | with a fictional bug number |
| 13:31.33 | pippijn | because this is not a real debian package |
| 13:31.51 | abrotman | it already had a bug number? |
| 13:31.59 | pippijn | no |
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| 13:37.14 | seto | hi, I am a student, and I do some code for different project, and I use svn to commit this change on the branch project.. but I am searching for something to backup my code in local what should I install ? darcs ? something else ? (now I use the svn like a backup tool, but it's really bad because someday I break the trunk just to save my day work) |
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| 13:37.47 | pippijn | seto: svk if you like |
| 13:37.51 | pippijn | I use git for my development |
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| 13:38.03 | pippijn | seto: in svn, you can also make branches |
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| 13:39.27 | seto | pippijn: yes, but sometimes, I just want to save the code of the day without really commiting it, (you see what I mean ?) ..dont know if branche is for things like that |
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| 13:40.29 | pippijn | seto: I commit locally to git when I want to do that |
| 13:40.59 | pippijn | seto: and if I later add something I want to commit to the same commit, I use git commit --amend |
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| 13:46.23 | Myth` | Is there a Programmers for Hire channel somewhere on freenode? |
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| 13:49.26 | TheBase | hello |
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| 13:49.55 | TheBase | I have a question about dpkg. Whould this be the best channel to ask or is there another on? |
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| 13:50.31 | petemc | TheBase: if you're using debian, this is the place |
| 13:50.33 | marcel_ | hi, i just installed debian + desktop (gnome). What is the nicest/cleanest way of disables PLACES>RECENT DOCUMENTS? |
| 13:50.35 | TheBase | yes |
| 13:50.37 | TheBase | cool |
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| 13:52.49 | TheBase | I was running dpkg-buildpackage but I got an error after the "# Install stuff" where it runs dh_install. I fixed the problem now. Is there a way I can continue from that stage instead of compiling everything again? since only running 'dpkg-buildpackage' makes a 'clean' and compiles everything again |
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| 13:58.31 | chops | TheBase: dpk-buildpackage -nc |
| 13:58.37 | chops | TheBase: ("no clean") |
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| 13:59.07 | _2 | Package grub-pc is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 13:59.23 | _2 | is there a problem with my sources.list ? |
| 13:59.39 | _2 | isn't grub2 avalable in etch ? |
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| 14:01.11 | TheBase | chops, cool. Thanks |
| 14:01.26 | adb | judd: versions grub2 |
| 14:01.27 | judd | adb: grub2 -- lenny: 1.96+20080724-16 squeeze: 1.96+20090808-1 sid: 1.96+20090826-3 |
| 14:01.36 | adb | _2: ^^ |
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| 14:01.56 | wsxws | hi there |
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| 14:02.36 | _2 | judd versions grub2 |
| 14:02.37 | judd | _2: grub2 -- lenny: 1.96+20080724-16 squeeze: 1.96+20090808-1 sid: 1.96+20090826-3 |
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| 14:02.42 | _2 | ok. |
| 14:03.22 | adb | _2: why just not read above message ... |
| 14:03.22 | _2 | well i can just use lilo. |
| 14:03.24 | wsxws | im on a brand new vserver an i wanted to set up a loopdevice. but when i do losetup -f i get this: 'losetup: could not find any device /dev/loop#' and when i look at /dev there arent any. how to get loopdevices though ? |
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| 14:05.00 | _2 | modprobe loop |
| 14:05.12 | _2 | ? |
| 14:05.32 | llutz | wsxws: "grep BLK_DEV_LOOP /boot/config-$(uname -r)" says what? |
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| 14:06.35 | wsxws | no configfile there |
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| 14:07.11 | _2 | heh says "No such file or directory" for me |
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| 14:07.18 | petemc | wsxws: do you know what type of virtualization it is? |
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| 14:07.33 | wsxws | nope, but the /boot-dir is empty |
| 14:07.56 | petemc | i would guess openvz |
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| 14:08.28 | d34df00d | Hi! |
| 14:08.39 | d34df00d | I have some troubles with 2.6.30 on amd64 and alsa. |
| 14:08.41 | lumis | d34df00d: sup |
| 14:08.54 | d34df00d | I've got HDA Intel sound card with SigmaTel STAC9228 chip. |
| 14:08.56 | wsxws | is htere a way to create a device out of a file anyway ? |
| 14:09.08 | lumis | d34df00d: what kinda troubles? |
| 14:09.16 | petemc | wsxws: no loop devices for you |
| 14:09.17 | d34df00d | Under 2.6.26 if I do modprobe snd_hda_intel model=dell-m81, notebook's mic works fine. |
| 14:09.30 | d34df00d | Under 2.6.30 neither internal nor internal mic works no matter what. |
| 14:10.05 | wsxws | does it have to be a loopdevice or is there another way to create a device out of a file ? |
| 14:10.17 | d34df00d | It's a Dell Inspiron 1525, and I've googled already, but haven't found any suitable solution. |
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| 14:10.51 | lumis | d34df00d: a lot of things seem to go nuts in 2.6.30; I went back to 2.6.28 after about 3 days of futile Googling and messing with config files and drivers... |
| 14:11.12 | wsxws | me too, i dont use newer kernels than .28 atm |
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| 14:11.51 | lumis | d34df00d: I'd recommend just using 2.6.26; at least it works ;) |
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| 14:12.15 | d34df00d | lumis: wsxws: well, I've just tried to go back to the 2.6.26, but Intel video drivers from unstable don't work with it. |
| 14:12.26 | d34df00d | They complain about drm2, and X gets extremely slow. |
| 14:13.05 | wsxws | is there a way to create a virtaul harddisk out of a file without using loop/losetup ? |
| 14:13.26 | d34df00d | Is there any way to solve this? It's the only thing that keeps me from downgrading. |
| 14:13.28 | petemc | wsxws: cow? |
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| 14:13.31 | abrotman | !bts |
| 14:13.31 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
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| 14:14.06 | wsxws | cow ? |
| 14:14.19 | petemc | wsxws: its something qemu and other things use |
| 14:14.23 | petemc | copy on write |
| 14:14.35 | lumis | d34df00d: maybe use the driver from old/stable or something? |
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| 14:15.03 | lumis | d34df00d: something similar happened on one of my machines a while ago, and that's how I solved it, albeit temporarily |
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| 14:16.20 | d34df00d | lumis: I already try to get through all the package conflicts while downgrading to xorg-video-intel-2.3.2. Gonna downgrade, reboot and see what happens. |
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| 14:16.30 | wsxws | i guess i lost you petemc. is there a way to reach my goal or not ? |
| 14:16.33 | lumis | d34df00d: have fun ;) |
| 14:16.36 | d34df00d | Hope all this stuff with audio would be fixed in .31. |
| 14:16.50 | Akuw | i need a software to convert one DVD to MPEG to load in a PSP |
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| 14:17.11 | lumis | Akuw: Handbrake |
| 14:17.18 | petemc | wsxws: were you expecting me to spoon feed you information? |
| 14:17.58 | wsxws | sorry, surely not, but i simply did not understand you before (maybe its because m< english istn that good) |
| 14:18.14 | petemc | wsxws: a start might be to google for qemu cow |
| 14:18.28 | petemc | i have no idea if its useful for you or not |
| 14:19.03 | markvandenborre | can anyone figure out what's wrong with this one: |
| 14:19.08 | markvandenborre | d-i preseed/late_command string in-target apt-get install -t lenny-backports subversion subversion-tools |
| 14:19.59 | wsxws | hm, at least it could e, if this virtuall drive is accessable by the hostsytem |
| 14:20.18 | markvandenborre | see http://pastie.org/596637 for the full context |
| 14:20.34 | petemc | Akuw: http://pastie.org/596638 |
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| 14:20.53 | markvandenborre | whenever I enable any d-i preseed/late_command , debian-installer seems to hang |
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| 14:21.35 | d34df00d | lumis: and is there a way to use an external mic? Internal one is too noisy. |
| 14:21.37 | petemc | Akuw: thats a command i use as "psp /file/to/encode 1" the number is to give the output a unique name |
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| 14:21.55 | petemc | Akuw: the second part generates the thumbnail |
| 14:22.44 | lumis | d34df00d: can't you just plug one in and tinker with the settings in alsamixer? |
| 14:23.30 | d34df00d | lumis: that doesn't work. |
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| 14:24.19 | lumis | d34df00d: not to insult your intelligence or anything, but you do know ya gotsta hit the space bar to toggle a microphone's activity in alsamixer? so that L R Capture appears below the level? |
| 14:24.28 | sylar | I have added an mdadm array as a PV to lvm2 of my VG that includes my root device |
| 14:24.49 | sylar | and now it doesn't start |
| 14:24.55 | sylar | saying it misses a UUID |
| 14:24.56 | d34df00d | lumis: yeah I know ) |
| 14:25.09 | lumis | d34df00d: heheh, just checking ;) |
| 14:25.19 | lumis | d34df00d: eh, I'm not sure then |
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| 14:25.28 | sylar | I found that I forgot to update mdadm.conf, so I did |
| 14:25.38 | abrotman | d34df00d: see the BTS above? hve you looked there? |
| 14:25.41 | sylar | I also get some comment about the partition table |
| 14:25.42 | d34df00d | lumis: I'm a developer myself, so I know how stupid mistakes users make sometimes, so that's ok :) |
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| 14:25.47 | sylar | so I updated it from a live cd |
| 14:25.51 | sylar | and yet it doesn't boot |
| 14:25.52 | d34df00d | abrotman: yeah, but found nothing. |
| 14:26.00 | abrotman | d34df00d: IIRC, this is a known issue |
| 14:26.10 | lumis | d34df00d: I'm just an idiot; I miss simple things all the time |
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| 14:26.35 | d34df00d | abrotman: both googled and looked at the bugtracker, but found no solutions. |
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| 14:26.51 | d34df00d | should fix the keyboard in just reverted xorg first, hehe. |
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| 14:29.53 | sylar | where does mdadm get its config file at boot? |
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| 14:31.49 | d34df00d | Keyboard fixed. Proceeding to the sound now. |
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| 14:32.35 | valdyn | sylar: from the initrd |
| 14:32.54 | lumis | d34df00d: all the best ;) |
| 14:33.04 | d34df00d | lumis: thanks :) |
| 14:33.08 | sylar | valdyn, so if I add an md array that is needed in boot, I need to recreate the initrd? |
| 14:33.22 | foobar | please remind me the command to list packages on a system |
| 14:33.29 | valdyn | sylar: I think so |
| 14:33.35 | sylar | crap |
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| 14:33.44 | lsd | foobar, dpkg -l |
| 14:33.45 | sylar | forgot how to make initrds |
| 14:34.03 | abrotman | wonders if sgeigerbot hid his nick so he wouldn't get laughed at ... |
| 14:34.09 | d34df00d | abrotman: what do you mean by known issue? |
| 14:34.14 | d34df00d | abrotman: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/search?group=linux.debian.bugs.dist&q=stac9228&qt_g=Search+this+group — nothing. |
| 14:34.18 | abrotman | d34df00d: as in .. known not to work ... |
| 14:34.32 | d34df00d | abrotman: is a fix available as well? |
| 14:34.43 | d34df00d | Or workaround, whatever. |
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| 14:35.40 | iateadonut | what's a very small X program that i can use to test my ssh server? |
| 14:35.56 | abrotman | d34df00d: FIIK .. i don't have the issue |
| 14:36.01 | abrotman | iateadonut: xeyes ? |
| 14:36.14 | djahandarie | xclock |
| 14:36.26 | sylar | anyone know how to update initrd? |
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| 14:37.11 | enouf | sylar: dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r` if you're booted intoit |
| 14:37.27 | enouf | otherwise, update-initramfs -u -k 2.6.... |
| 14:37.38 | iateadonut | thanks. |
| 14:37.52 | sylar | enouf, ok (otherwise) |
| 14:37.58 | enouf | sylar: you might need to list modules needed in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules ... |
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| 14:38.19 | sylar | enouf, huh? |
| 14:38.54 | sylar | enouf, maybe I can chroot into my system root from live cd and do that? |
| 14:39.00 | enouf | if your disk controller, or / FS or any specific hardware requires special modules to boot, you need to list those |
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| 14:39.14 | enouf | yep |
| 14:39.30 | dp_ | is there not a prebuilt kernel for newer multi-core Xeons? |
| 14:39.35 | sylar | enouf, they surely do need mdadm, lvm2 maybe mroe |
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| 14:39.52 | valdyn | dp_: why would there be? |
| 14:39.56 | enouf | sylar: right |
| 14:40.07 | enouf | sylar: using grub2? or |
| 14:40.20 | enouf | (grub-pc and friends) |
| 14:40.22 | sylar | enouf, I think just grub |
| 14:40.34 | dp_ | valdyn: for specific multi-core support? |
| 14:40.38 | enouf | well, then /boot needs to be off-LVM |
| 14:40.42 | valdyn | dp_: any debian kernel has multicore support |
| 14:40.51 | valdyn | dp_: with the exception of the -486 kernels |
| 14:40.51 | dp_ | ok |
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| 14:41.10 | sylar | enouf, yea, boot is off lvm iirc, just on mdadm raid1 |
| 14:41.13 | dp_ | so even though the 686 kernels "say" they're for P4/etc, they'll work on the newer xeons? |
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| 14:41.19 | enouf | yes |
| 14:41.26 | valdyn | dp_: xeons are more p3 than p4 |
| 14:41.29 | enouf | so would the -amd64 ones |
| 14:41.36 | dp_ | and does that include 64 bit support? |
| 14:41.44 | enouf | valdyn: not multicore ones |
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| 14:42.04 | valdyn | those should be core 2 duo based too |
| 14:42.09 | enouf | dp_: it is a 64bit kernel, 64bit userland can be installed using the amd64 ARCH |
| 14:42.09 | optraz | hi, has anyone successfully have guest vm retreive ip from the host in virtualbox? |
| 14:42.17 | dp_ | ok |
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| 14:43.11 | enouf | valdyn: funny thing is ; there's a gazillion versions of 'xeon' .. spannning all the way back to the p3 architecture .. uff ;-) |
| 14:43.49 | valdyn | enouf: yea, but im specifically talking about the latest xeons, i know that xeon is just a brand for intel i386/amd64 server chips in general |
| 14:43.57 | enouf | dp_: the kernel does have specific params in it's Kconfig.cpu to allow for older vs newer xeons |
| 14:44.02 | dp_ | ok |
| 14:44.17 | dp_ | and how can I get at the specific files inside the .deb? |
| 14:44.29 | dp_ | nm, dpkg |
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| 14:44.57 | enouf | valdyn: oh, the newer ones .. oh i see, since CORE was based off pentium-M (p3) rather than Netburst (p4) ... now i see what you meant |
| 14:45.08 | llutz | dp_: use "mc", it opens deb transparent |
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| 14:45.29 | dwarder | how can i benchmark my vds? |
| 14:45.50 | enouf | valdyn: i just meant, back then (p3)era the CPUs were MP, Dual, etc ... multicores didn't exist - clarified |
| 14:46.39 | valdyn | enouf: yea |
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| 14:48.56 | kevin01123 | Does anyone know of a place online where I could get the .config files for Debian kernels? |
| 14:49.25 | enouf | you'd think AMD would be extra nice to Debian, since we're the only major distro that i know of which still calls their 64bit x86 port 'amd64' - not even kernel devel do distinguish (giveprops) this way |
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| 14:49.47 | rudi_s | kevin01123: If you have Debian running they are in /boot/ |
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| 14:50.34 | enouf | kevin01123: you'd have to atleast d/l the kernel pkgs (linux-image-version) .. possible .config comes in -headers- too, but i think not a full .config |
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| 14:50.55 | kevin01123 | rudi_s: No, not that. I need a .config for a 2.6.28 kernel. If I use the existing 2.6.26 config, there's an error on boot. |
| 14:50.57 | enouf | kevin01123: or, for experimental, the .deb |
| 14:51.11 | enouf | kevin01123: i might have one .. one sec |
| 14:51.15 | valdyn | kevin01123: if you have the existing 2.6.26 kernel then you already have the config |
| 14:51.35 | enouf | what do you know ;-) |
| 14:51.37 | enouf | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 98151 2009-02-18 21:50 config-2.6.28-1-686 |
| 14:51.52 | dp_ | and do new kernels not come with init(rd|ramfs) anymore? |
| 14:51.56 | enouf | startsaccepting bids |
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| 14:52.01 | enouf | :-P |
| 14:52.11 | kevin01123 | enouf: 40 wom pom. |
| 14:52.12 | valdyn | dp_: all debian kernels have an initrd |
| 14:52.13 | enouf | dp_: they do/should |
| 14:52.14 | sylar | enouf, I tried update-initramfs -u |
| 14:52.15 | kevin01123 | Not a shell more. |
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| 14:52.23 | dp_ | valdyn: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/i386/linux-image-2.6.30-1-686-bigmem/filelist |
| 14:52.28 | sylar | enouf, and it say that /proc/modules have no modules |
| 14:52.39 | sylar | enouf, on the chrooted |
| 14:52.40 | valdyn | dp_: the initrd is always generated, not shipped |
| 14:52.46 | dp_ | of course |
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| 14:53.24 | optraz | hi, has anyone successfully have guest vm retreive ip from the host in virtualbox? |
| 14:53.43 | enouf | dp_: newer kernel-package make-kpkg add/require a newer /etc/kernel/ dir from which all/most initramfs (initrd) config is done |
| 14:54.00 | ajavid | good morning |
| 14:54.03 | valdyn | !wayttd optraz |
| 14:54.03 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, optraz? |
| 14:54.05 | enouf | kevin01123: http://pastebin.ca/raw/1544709 |
| 14:54.39 | kevin01123 | enouf: Was that a custom or stock script? |
| 14:54.45 | optraz | valdyn: well for one, i chose host interface for the vm configuration |
| 14:54.56 | optraz | and bootup the guest vm, it wont retrieve the ip from the dhcp server |
| 14:55.01 | enouf | kevin01123: stock debian |
| 14:55.13 | kevin01123 | enouf: I owe you a kernel config script. |
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| 14:55.23 | enouf | or .. a few beers ;-) |
| 14:55.52 | valdyn | optraz: dhcp requests are not forwarded across routers, your host is the router it seems |
| 14:56.26 | jelly | optraz: when I had vbox, it successfully used a tun interface bridged to the physical host network interface and got a configuration from the dhcp server |
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| 14:56.54 | optraz | valdyn: well yea, my host has dhcp server running |
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| 14:57.14 | optraz | jelly: well manual setup the bridge interface? |
| 14:57.18 | jelly | optraz: yes. |
| 14:57.38 | jelly | optraz: /etc/network/interfaces has an entry for br0 instead of eth0 |
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| 14:58.18 | jelly | optraz: install bridge-utils, man bridge-utils-interfaces |
| 14:58.36 | enouf | what would 'Dither Letters' and 'Dither Images' options do in a Browser preferences under Video area? |
| 14:58.43 | optraz | jelly: as far as i know, after vbox verseion 2.1.0, they supported host interface where the bridge automatically setup. well, i select that host interface and for some unknown reason, the guest just wont able to retrieve the ip address |
| 14:59.07 | optraz | jelly: install that defeat the purpose of the host interface selectino in the vbox |
| 14:59.18 | racecar56 | is there some kind of 'macro' program that renames files? i knew of one in ubuntu but it fails |
| 14:59.25 | enouf | sylar: hrm |
| 14:59.47 | sylar | ? |
| 15:00.14 | enouf | sylar: trybind mounting /proc - however, you will end up with the list from your livecd boot |
| 15:00.41 | jelly | optraz: well, do you want it to work or do you want to argue the purposes? :-) |
| 15:01.06 | enouf | sylar: you likely want to exit the chroot; mount --bind /proc /mnt/target/proc ; then chroot - you might also needto do that for /dev |
| 15:01.07 | optraz | jelly: oh yes, i want it ot work but im not sure what is breaking in the host interface selection. |
| 15:01.25 | optraz | jelly: even i implement the manual way and in the long run, this is just wont right. |
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| 15:01.54 | sylar | enouf ok |
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| 15:02.02 | sylar | enouf, will try |
| 15:02.23 | ajavid | racecar56, huh? |
| 15:02.25 | ajavid | racecar56, rename? |
| 15:03.05 | ajavid | racecar56, you can also run a simple bash loop... |
| 15:03.09 | ajavid | !wayttd racecar56 |
| 15:03.09 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, racecar56? |
| 15:03.28 | petemc | enouf: proc doesnt need bind mounted |
| 15:03.30 | dwarder | what can this mean Please install /usr/bin/time. |
| 15:03.35 | dwarder | what should i install |
| 15:03.37 | enouf | racecar56: readlink -f `which rename` |
| 15:04.02 | dwarder | what do i need to install |
| 15:04.03 | dwarder | ? |
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| 15:04.19 | enouf | petemc: he has no /proc/modules, heh ... uh, and mine is 0 bytes |
| 15:04.22 | ajavid | dwarder, who said that |
| 15:04.57 | petemc | enouf: right, but you can mount proc multiple times, no bind necessary |
| 15:05.02 | enouf | petemc: he's trying to update-initramfs -u from a chroot - sylar didyou specify -k $VERSION? |
| 15:05.17 | enouf | petemc: it should be mounted already anyway |
| 15:05.31 | petemc | enouf: not in a chroot |
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| 15:05.44 | abrotman | racecar56: man rename |
| 15:05.47 | ajavid | what are you discussing? |
| 15:05.48 | enouf | yes,in a chroot - unless what i see is lying to me |
| 15:05.50 | dwarder | ajavid: UnixBench v4.1.0 - WHT Variant |
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| 15:06.03 | ajavid | i dunno what that does |
| 15:06.05 | dwarder | ajavid: http://minivds.com/technology/faq/unixbench.html |
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| 15:06.11 | enouf | or, i'm viewing mtab , or something |
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| 15:07.04 | ajavid | who was trying to do stuff with time? |
| 15:07.17 | enouf | $ help time |
| 15:07.19 | ajavid | enouf, you don't have to bind proc |
| 15:07.19 | enouf | heh |
| 15:07.26 | ajavid | you can proc as many times as proc wherever you need |
| 15:07.41 | Polarbrod | Hey was thikg of installing Debain on my eee pc 900, Do i choose one of these ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/debian-cd/5.0.1-live/i386/iso-cd/ adn the unetboot then over, I was thinkng of buildning my own wm, Is my wifi going to work on standard iso? |
| 15:07.42 | ajavid | aptitude install ime |
| 15:07.44 | ajavid | time |
| 15:07.50 | Bushmills | (that's the bash internal time command, not /usr/bin/time) |
| 15:07.56 | enouf | well, then what difference does it make - it's mounted already anyway |
| 15:08.04 | enouf | are you deaf? |
| 15:08.08 | ajavid | Bushmills, aptitude install time ?: |
| 15:08.15 | ajavid | huh |
| 15:08.19 | ajavid | oh nm,what he said |
| 15:08.20 | Polarbrod | Anyone? |
| 15:08.21 | Bushmills | ajavid: no, enouf's help time |
| 15:08.22 | balzac5000 | Can anyone offer any advice on these kernel errors I'm seeing with a Lenny upgrade using a 3com 3c905B card? http://pastebin.ca/1544728 |
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| 15:08.36 | ajavid | Polarbrod, i think there is eepc version |
| 15:08.38 | ajavid | !eeepc |
| 15:08.38 | dpkg | The Eee PC (aka RM Asus Minibook) is a <netbook> designed by Asus. Linux models are supplied with <Xandros> and are not supported in #debian, join #eeepc on irc.freenode.net. To install Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC for installation and configuration details. See also <atl2>, <atl1e>, <rt2860 eee>. Mailing list: http://alioth.debian.org/mail/?group_id=31309 #debian-eeepc on irc.oftc.net. |
| 15:08.54 | balzac5000 | There were no issues on this box with Etch... |
| 15:08.56 | dwarder | ajavid: apt-get install time helped |
| 15:08.57 | ajavid | Polarbrod, wiki read it |
| 15:09.05 | ajavid | dwarder, i said aptitude, but whatever |
| 15:09.06 | balzac5000 | And it's the second server I've had with this issue. |
| 15:09.12 | ajavid | !tell dwarder -about why aptitude |
| 15:09.23 | enouf | haha@ chroot /mnt/p3 |
| 15:09.26 | enouf | root@sarge:/# |
| 15:09.34 | barnsey | Polarbrod, I installed Debian, Ubuntu, etc. etc. I found the best distro for my 1000H was crunchbang. It's openbox based, so if you like Gnome/KDE (shudder) it's probably not for you |
| 15:09.39 | enouf | cat: /proc/mounts: No such file or directory |
| 15:09.41 | barnsey | Polarbrod, everything worked out of the box |
| 15:09.54 | dwarder | ajavid: am i did what you said? |
| 15:09.56 | sylar | petemc, enouf it worked |
| 15:09.56 | barnsey | Polarbrod, ah, almost everthing. Had to install the eee-acpi scripts |
| 15:10.01 | dwarder | ajavid: thank you |
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| 15:10.06 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.06 | ajavid | dwarder, yes, but aptitude is better :) |
| 15:10.15 | ajavid | dwarder, welcome |
| 15:10.21 | dwarder | ajavid: can i install both :) ? |
| 15:10.24 | sylar | petemc, enouf , now I guess I need to update also the older kernels |
| 15:10.29 | barnsey | ajavid, as I keep telling the ops, that eeepc factoid isn't useful as there are *many* eeePC's out now |
| 15:10.34 | ajavid | both will be installed, but aptitude is better, don't mix the two |
| 15:10.43 | ajavid | barnsey, i sold mine, its too much littler |
| 15:10.48 | ajavid | barnsey, i bought a REAL laptop. |
| 15:10.55 | barnsey | ajavid, you didn't have a 10inch one, obviously |
| 15:11.06 | ajavid | it was pretty small but i need more |
| 15:11.07 | EmleyMoor | will be buying a real laptop fairly soon |
| 15:11.13 | barnsey | ajavid, lol I have a "real" laptop, a T61. Hardly use it anymore |
| 15:11.23 | EmleyMoor | (once I know what I have to pay for a new car) |
| 15:11.42 | simonrvn | enouf: umount /proc; mount /proc |
| 15:11.42 | enouf | Bushmills: yes, i was aware it wasn't the binary ;-) |
| 15:11.44 | simonrvn | enouf: it's likely mtab got confused |
| 15:12.03 | EmleyMoor | Thinking of a Dell Inspiron 17 now - was thinking of the 15 before |
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| 15:12.05 | enouf | umount: /proc: not mounted |
| 15:12.15 | simonrvn | that's ok |
| 15:12.34 | simonrvn | it should be now if you did what i suggested |
| 15:12.39 | enouf | proc on /proc type proc (rw) |
| 15:12.43 | barnsey | I spent almost $3000 on my "real" laptop, $2600 on my desktop and use my $500 1000HE 90% of the time lol. Of course, I don't play games ... |
| 15:12.51 | enouf | simonrvn: yes |
| 15:12.55 | ajavid | wow |
| 15:13.05 | ajavid | I have a badass system for under 500-600 |
| 15:13.12 | barnsey | quad core? |
| 15:13.15 | ajavid | jeez dude. im rich but i dont' even spend that much on shit. |
| 15:13.23 | simonrvn | erm you can get the stuff in bulk, ajavid ;) |
| 15:13.31 | ajavid | im not tHAT rich |
| 15:13.31 | ajavid | :) |
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| 15:13.35 | enouf | simonrvn: now /# cat /proc/mounts shows all + proc on /proc type proc (rw) |
| 15:13.37 | barnsey | er, that's not too much money ... |
| 15:13.39 | ajavid | 1 item is enough |
| 15:13.42 | simonrvn | wholesale |
| 15:13.56 | ajavid | barnsey, I have a 3.8Ghz quad core with 16gb ram |
| 15:13.59 | barnsey | besides, I get to write them off on tax - I'm a programmer :) |
| 15:14.01 | enouf | simonrvn: rather than cat: /proc/mounts: No such file or directory |
| 15:14.01 | cantoma | hey guys, i am trying to play a dvd using gmplayer .. the only thing I do is asking him to DVD->Open Disc and then it freezes. The same DVD plays well in Windows. What it could be the problem? |
| 15:14.05 | simonrvn | (i meant wholesale, heh) |
| 15:14.12 | racecar56 | i have an acer aspire m5630 with a nvidia video card i replaced the ati with |
| 15:14.26 | racecar56 | 2.4ghz quad core 2gb ram -_- |
| 15:14.28 | simonrvn | enouf: yeh, it's from your unchrooted system |
| 15:14.33 | balzac5000 | Can anyone offer any advice on these kernel errors I'm seeing with a Lenny upgrade using a 3com 3c905B card? http://pastebin.ca/1544728 |
| 15:14.34 | racecar56 | but it's still a nice comp :D |
| 15:15.00 | ajavid | those errors mean nothing to me |
| 15:15.11 | ajavid | balzac5000, have you tried to google the messages |
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| 15:15.19 | RagnareG | http://naruto-anime.org/ |
| 15:15.27 | ajavid | RagnareG, piss off |
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| 15:15.46 | balzac5000 | ajavid: Sure have - all hits are dredged up from circa 2002 and nothing relevant appears |
| 15:15.48 | suryan49 | when im openin synaptic d error i get is E: The package adobe-flashplugin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
| 15:15.48 | suryan49 | E: Internal error opening cache (1). Please report. |
| 15:15.55 | optraz | when the bridge is connected to the real interface, then the real interface initial iip is not usuable anymore? |
| 15:16.03 | ajavid | balzac5000, hm, those messages are unfamiliar to me |
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| 15:16.13 | suryan49 | i hav installed flash player dat is downloaded from http://adobe.com |
| 15:16.18 | jelly | optraz: you replace the real device config with the bridge device |
| 15:16.18 | balzac5000 | ajavid: it appears to be a real fundamental driver thing which was solved eons ago |
| 15:16.24 | Bushmills | suryan49: IIRC, you were advised already to NOT use ubuntu packages with debian |
| 15:16.35 | balzac5000 | Which makes it even more puzzling. |
| 15:16.38 | racecar56 | suryan49: download the archive for it and slam it into /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 15:16.38 | ajavid | suryan49, from yesterday? with the flash package oin ubuntu? |
| 15:16.47 | balzac5000 | This is the second server I've had this happen on |
| 15:16.52 | ajavid | suryan49, i told you how to fix it yesterday |
| 15:16.52 | racecar56 | suryan49: anyway, don't use debian with ubuntu debs |
| 15:16.52 | suryan49 | didn't resolved.... |
| 15:16.54 | Polarbrod | barnsey: oh, so i dont need the eeepc version? |
| 15:16.54 | balzac5000 | Only when moving to Lenny |
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| 15:16.58 | ajavid | suryan49, did you try it even? |
| 15:16.59 | optraz | jelly: i just found out a new interface scope == link when command ifconfig is run |
| 15:17.03 | suryan49 | yeah |
| 15:17.07 | suryan49 | i commented d prem file |
| 15:17.11 | optraz | jelly: and brctl show , indiciate that pan0 is a bridge |
| 15:17.13 | suryan49 | it didnt workl |
| 15:17.15 | optraz | jelly: with no interface |
| 15:17.20 | barnsey | Polarbrod, my recommendation is crunchbang lite. And no, you don |
| 15:17.22 | ajavid | suryan49, you have to edit the postrm script, blank out the line i told you and save, and then remove the package |
| 15:17.30 | jelly | optraz: basically, you ifdown eth0, replace eth0 with br0 in the interfaces file everywhere, and add eg. "bridge_ports eth0" line to the br0 config |
| 15:17.37 | suryan49 | i edited prem script dat u told me on dat day |
| 15:17.40 | jelly | optraz: then ifup br0 |
| 15:17.45 | ajavid | yes prerm |
| 15:17.50 | barnsey | t *need* the eeepc version. It just compiled the kernel without the unneeded modules etc |
| 15:17.52 | ajavid | suryan49, and then what |
| 15:17.54 | Polarbrod | barnsey: yeah, have ccrunch now, but would like it debain based |
| 15:17.58 | Polarbrod | openox |
| 15:18.01 | suryan49 | it didnt work |
| 15:18.07 | ajavid | suryan49, what did it say? |
| 15:18.09 | simonrvn | abrotman: welal'in |
| 15:18.09 | optraz | jelly: messing around with interface.. |
| 15:18.12 | suryan49 | sam error |
| 15:18.18 | racecar56 | is there some kind of program that can rename lots of files, i knew one on ubuntu but it fails bad |
| 15:18.23 | optraz | jelly: not really convince to do this manually other than let the vbox do it |
| 15:18.25 | abrotman | racecar56: MAN RENAME |
| 15:18.37 | bluethundr_ | maildrop is reporting that I am not a trusted user when I try to send mail to the user's mailbox via postfix. #postfix didn't know. they sent me here. :) |
| 15:18.39 | bluethundr_ | http://beezag.pastebin.com/d2016e241 |
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| 15:18.42 | racecar56 | abrotman: :D thanks |
| 15:18.47 | abrotman | racecar56: i told you 10 minutes ago |
| 15:18.54 | ajavid | i told 15 minutes ago |
| 15:18.55 | racecar56 | abrotman: i didn't see :| |
| 15:19.01 | gravity | pyrenamer is a pretty good gui one |
| 15:19.10 | ajavid | krename |
| 15:19.10 | barnsey | Polarbrod, heh, it is debian based. Anyway, I also had Lenny on there, but recompiled the kernel etc. IT's all about the same |
| 15:19.13 | abrotman | racecar56: man -k rename ? |
| 15:19.16 | gravity | Although dired in emacs is probably the best I've seen |
| 15:19.20 | abrotman | you can search for things like that |
| 15:19.22 | barnsey | Polarbrod, just more post-install config with Lenny |
| 15:19.25 | jelly | perhaps racecar56... *puts on sunglasses* is driving too fast. |
| 15:19.40 | simonrvn | rpl is a good CLI one |
| 15:19.50 | simonrvn | python based also |
| 15:19.56 | enouf | cantoma: don't use gmplayer, use mplayer ;-) |
| 15:19.57 | ajavid | suryan49, pastebin the prerm script for that package |
| 15:20.05 | suryan49 | ya |
| 15:20.06 | enouf | cantoma: /msg dpkg dmm |
| 15:20.08 | ajavid | suryan49, you blanked out the variants line? |
| 15:20.13 | simonrvn | though it doesn't change filenames but contents |
| 15:20.15 | ajavid | suryan49, and tried to remvoe package? |
| 15:20.18 | Polarbrod | barnsey: yeah but i have alot crap which i dont use and would like a clean install where i can control what i get |
| 15:20.29 | suryan49 | yeah i tried |
| 15:20.33 | suryan49 | it didnt work |
| 15:20.43 | ajavid | be more specific |
| 15:20.54 | simonrvn | i use perl's rename for renaming files |
| 15:21.09 | ajavid | i would have thought that removing the variants would cause your alternatives to not launch, so then you'd be able to remvoe th epackage |
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| 15:21.19 | simonrvn | jelly: hehe |
| 15:21.22 | suryan49 | d prerm file is http://pastebin.com/d2e2b17f2 |
| 15:21.25 | ajavid | suryan49, I would then comment out lines 19-53 i think |
| 15:21.30 | barnsey | Polarbrod, it's why I went with crunchbang lite. It's basically a minimum base install that you can add to with aptitude/apt as you desire |
| 15:21.37 | suryan49 | yeah plz chek it out |
| 15:21.39 | ajavid | suryan49, comment out the entire block that runs update-altenatives in prem |
| 15:21.39 | gravity | should try perl's rename as well |
| 15:21.41 | ajavid | prerm |
| 15:21.55 | gravity | Using shell to do it is absurdly quirky. I always have to look it up to get the quoting right |
| 15:21.56 | ajavid | suryan49, that way you'll be able to uninstall the package |
| 15:21.58 | simonrvn | barnsey: you can do that with debian already.. |
| 15:22.00 | barnsey | Polarbrod, it's small anyway. You aren't going to lose out much by downloading it and trying it :) |
| 15:22.13 | barnsey | simonrvn, see above if you want more of the story |
| 15:22.13 | ajavid | as i said im not a master packer yet |
| 15:22.19 | Polarbrod | barnsey: i m running it nwo |
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| 15:22.26 | ajavid | can anyone confirm this or try to help this poor gyy |
| 15:22.28 | simonrvn | gravity: nice thing about rename is that you get to use perl regexp :) |
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| 15:22.31 | ajavid | hes been here witht he sma eprobme two days |
| 15:22.42 | ajavid | suryan49, tell your problem again |
| 15:22.45 | gravity | simonrvn: Win :-) |
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| 15:22.48 | Polarbrod | disk usage 1,3 gb from isrtall |
| 15:22.51 | barnsey | Polarbrod, ok. And what's the problem? Or you just want Lenny installed? |
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| 15:22.59 | Polarbrod | yeah lenny |
| 15:23.02 | gravity | has been a much much happier linux user since learning perl and using perl -E |
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| 15:23.03 | simonrvn | gravity: yeh :) |
| 15:23.11 | suryan49 | after removing the adobe-flashplugin |
| 15:23.37 | racecar56 | abrotman: thanks that did the trick |
| 15:23.42 | barnsey | gravity, ah. Soon you'll become an unhappy programmer as you learn how to obfuscate your own perl scripts so much even *you* can't read them a week later ;-) |
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| 15:23.58 | simonrvn | dude probably has to go mess with the package scripts. sounds like it's really broken. i would also file a bug on it if one isn't filed already. |
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| 15:24.08 | ajavid | its not a debian pckage |
| 15:24.10 | Polarbrod | barnsey: yeah jsut , lenny so I dont need the eee versio, just pick the lastest? |
| 15:24.13 | gravity | barnsey: perlcritic and perltidy make life really good. I recommend not writing perl the same way you did 10 years ago. |
| 15:24.13 | suryan49 | h |
| 15:24.16 | ajavid | he tried to installed ubuntu package on debian |
| 15:24.20 | jelly | ajavid: "I've installed a third-party package for Ubuntu on Debian and now cannot remove the broken package plz help" |
| 15:24.22 | ajavid | and nwo it won't remove |
| 15:24.25 | simonrvn | ohh ffs |
| 15:24.28 | ajavid | well yes |
| 15:24.31 | ajavid | noob mistake |
| 15:24.34 | ajavid | don't give him shit, hel him |
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| 15:24.39 | ajavid | he was given enough shit yesterday |
| 15:24.43 | ajavid | mov eon |
| 15:24.48 | suryan49 | 2 mins |
| 15:24.51 | simonrvn | i'm not, that was a big SIGH |
| 15:24.51 | suryan49 | jus wil b bak |
| 15:24.52 | jelly | STOP PRESSING ENTER |
| 15:24.53 | barnsey | Polarbrod, I did mine from the base install, then net installed the rest :) |
| 15:24.53 | gravity | You can fix the script itself if you're willing to do so |
| 15:25.06 | gravity | Or I suppose force removal, but I've never gone that far myself |
| 15:25.12 | enouf | hehe |
| 15:25.12 | ajavid | gravity, i told him, but i think i was right |
| 15:25.16 | simonrvn | so what's the thing he installed? |
| 15:25.30 | jelly | simonrvn: guess once |
| 15:25.30 | ajavid | adboe flash from ubuntu |
| 15:25.30 | Polarbrod | barnsey: Dont follow, which one from these ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/debian-cd/5.0.1-live/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 15:25.38 | jelly | ajavid: from Adobe, actually |
| 15:25.38 | barnsey | gravity, well, we have 12 different guys writing 22 different ways on any given way, and working to deadlines. Sometimes, as long as it works, we're good :) |
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| 15:26.02 | gravity | barnsey: perlcritic solves that problem nicely |
| 15:26.17 | gravity | barnsey: Also, any time you have a large team you should have coding standards |
| 15:26.17 | ajavid | in his prerm script, update alternatives is running, and saying that it can't remove this pcakge, as there are no other flash alternatives in the system |
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| 15:26.31 | gravity | says that and instructs people not to look at the machinery behind the X.org curtain |
| 15:26.34 | Polarbrod | barnsey: ? |
| 15:26.36 | ajavid | I told him to either blank out the VARIANTS var, or comment out the entire if block that runs the alternatives |
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| 15:26.40 | ajavid | imo that should fix it |
| 15:26.42 | simonrvn | so how about installing the debian one using dpkg and --force-overwrite ? |
| 15:26.45 | ajavid | am I correct or incorrect? |
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| 15:26.54 | barnsey | Polarbrod, i used the netinst image .. uh .. here it is http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 15:26.58 | ajavid | suryan49, pastebin the script again |
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| 15:27.03 | suryan49 | after removing wid dpkg is http://pastebin.com/m45bfa90d |
| 15:27.10 | barnsey | gravity, lol thanks for the advice. I'll pass it on to management |
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| 15:27.30 | gravity | barnsey: Seriously though, I love perlcritic. It's pretty awesome and if you're doing perl it's very worth looking at it. I can't recommend it enough :-) |
| 15:27.32 | simonrvn | suryan49: ajavid: comment out the section with the update-alternatives call |
| 15:27.33 | ajavid | suryan49, pasetbin the script, you fucked up simething in the script |
| 15:27.34 | barnsey | gravity, after 20 years in the industry I'm always glad to have ppl tell me how it works/ should work :) |
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| 15:27.48 | ajavid | simonrvn, thats what I thought, but I was trying to see how the VARUIANTS takes effect |
| 15:27.50 | gravity | heh, fair enough |
| 15:27.58 | ajavid | I was sure if you blank out the VARIANTS var it would proceed |
| 15:28.01 | simonrvn | without seeing this thing i can only suggest |
| 15:28.04 | barnsey | gravity, well we're mainly a C++ shop. The perl is our glue .. or maybe our sticky tape ;) |
| 15:28.17 | simonrvn | barnsey: DUCT TAPE! |
| 15:28.22 | gravity | of teh interwebs |
| 15:28.25 | simonrvn | :D |
| 15:28.28 | ajavid | suryan49, pastebin the script |
| 15:28.29 | suryan49 | yeah d prerm script is http://pastebin.com/d46323def |
| 15:28.46 | barnsey | simonrvn, ah, my mistake. Always duct tape |
| 15:28.50 | barnsey | fixes everything |
| 15:29.10 | jelly | would just put an exit 0 as the second line of /var/lib/dpkg/adobe-flashplugin.*rm |
| 15:29.21 | barnsey | gravity, I take your point though. My life would be easier if everyone coded strictly to our policies. |
| 15:29.45 | simonrvn | suryan49: how about the postinst? |
| 15:29.45 | jelly | um, make that /var/lib/dpkg/info/adobe-flashplugin.*rm |
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| 15:30.13 | suryan49 | i didn't do any postinstallation... |
| 15:30.20 | gravity | barnsey: The great thing about perlcritic is that it enforces policies, and that policy can be fully customized for any given person or team. It's a great tool. |
| 15:30.23 | suryan49 | i mean i didn't edit it |
| 15:30.23 | jelly | gravity: didn't you already wipe all the useful bits out of xorg packaging some time ago?! |
| 15:30.30 | gravity | jelly: :-p |
| 15:30.40 | simonrvn | suryan49: can you pastebin it ? |
| 15:30.47 | gravity | jelly: Next up: grandr! |
| 15:30.53 | suryan49 | wich 1 ???? postinst script ??? |
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| 15:31.03 | MikeH | Hello all |
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| 15:31.09 | simonrvn | there's only one for that package |
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| 15:31.23 | jelly | gravity: I wish I could place a screen at -1680+0 with randr |
| 15:31.25 | v4nelle | guys when i set priority=low on debian installer,my screen does not show corrent the colours.....and i cant read what installer,show me...if i dont set priority=off everything works...why? |
| 15:31.36 | MikeH | I'm trying to install nvidia drivers, however, when it comes to compiling kernel module, I'm told that gcc 4.1 was used to compile the kernel while 4.3 is on my system |
| 15:31.39 | gravity | heh |
| 15:31.55 | jelly | ... some of us have secondary screens on the LEFT side |
| 15:32.23 | barnsey | whoah, the left ... |
| 15:32.26 | barnsey | crazy kids nowdays |
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| 15:32.44 | jelly | YEAH XORG PPL THERE IS "LEFT" |
| 15:32.48 | barnsey | lol |
| 15:32.50 | gravity | Get typing. |
| 15:32.52 | gravity | Or bug keithp |
| 15:33.16 | jelly | nah, when I want left, I boot xp :-D |
| 15:33.20 | gravity | ouch |
| 15:33.32 | simonrvn | *burn* |
| 15:33.35 | jelly | video-intel can't do >2048 anyway |
| 15:33.45 | suryan49 | my adobe-flashplugin postinst file is http://pastebin.com/d17629342 |
| 15:33.49 | gravity | Right now, yeah. UXA should fix that. |
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| 15:33.53 | simonrvn | thank you |
| 15:34.05 | jelly | conclusion: xorg doesn't let you go left... it's anti-communism! |
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| 15:34.34 | gNewPower | Hi - what is the command to make aptitude search all the packages in whose DESCRIPTION (not name) the word "chess" appears? Thanks. |
| 15:34.40 | barnsey | hmm, I think they should just call #ubuntu "#gnome-help-for-windows-refugees" and be done with it. Oops, waaay OT |
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| 15:35.28 | gravity | jelly: Is there a bug for this btw? I'm looking upstream now for one, but if there already is one I'd like to read it |
| 15:35.48 | jelly | didn't take a look at fdo bug reports |
| 15:35.54 | ajavid | gNewPower, http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html |
| 15:36.05 | ajavid | gNewPower, ~d |
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| 15:36.15 | simonrvn | suryan49: first in that prerm script, uncomment the main sections of the case, but not the contents. you got that? |
| 15:36.24 | gNewPower | ajavid, thanks! |
| 15:36.37 | simonrvn | suryan49: you be inserting : instead |
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| 15:36.49 | suryan49 | i didnt get u |
| 15:37.10 | gravity | I mean, this seems like it should be possible looking at what xrandr itself can do. I'd have to dig deeper in to the spec and implementation to be sure though |
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| 15:38.11 | simonrvn | suryan49: http://pastebin.com/m1c1f7836 |
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| 15:38.43 | simonrvn | suryan49: then run: |
| 15:38.44 | barnsey | gravity, hey, thanks for the percritic advice. Just had a play with it. You're right! |
| 15:38.47 | gNewPower | ajavid, "aptitude search -d chess" does not show toga2 even though its description says that it is a "chess engine". What am I doing wrong? |
| 15:38.49 | suryan49 | ok |
| 15:38.53 | barnsey | huzzah |
| 15:39.00 | simonrvn | suryan49: sh -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/adobe-flashplugin.prerm prerm |
| 15:39.30 | jelly | simonrvn: itym "remove" as the argument |
| 15:39.52 | simonrvn | jelly: yeh, but i want to do it in order |
| 15:40.12 | jelly | gravity: new xrandr seems to have an option to make certain output the default (I guess it would place it as the first one), I'll have to try the new packages to check if that's good enough for me |
| 15:40.15 | simonrvn | oh yeh, sorry misread the script, you're right |
| 15:40.22 | barnsey | anyway, I told my friend I'd go chubby chasing with him. Ciao |
| 15:40.32 | ajavid | ugh |
| 15:40.37 | ajavid | fat chics |
| 15:40.39 | simonrvn | suryan49: sh -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/adobe-flashplugin.prerm remove |
| 15:40.47 | suryan49 | d output is |
| 15:40.47 | suryan49 | sh -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/adobe-flashplugin.prerm prerm |
| 15:40.47 | suryan49 | + ']#!/bin/sh' |
| 15:40.47 | suryan49 | /var/lib/dpkg/info/adobe-flashplugin.prerm: line 1: ]#!/bin/sh: No such file or directory |
| 15:40.47 | suryan49 | + set -e |
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| 15:41.09 | simonrvn | wtf |
| 15:41.14 | jelly | gravity: had to fall back on stable packages as UXA made my i915GM lock up too often |
| 15:41.30 | simonrvn | he copied it out? sigh |
| 15:41.32 | gravity | "chubby chasing"? |
| 15:41.56 | gravity | jelly: Ouch. Well the newest intel just came out fixing a few things, although I have no idea what's going on kernel-side. |
| 15:42.11 | jelly | there's an extra ] in the !# line |
| 15:42.16 | simonrvn | yeh |
| 15:42.41 | simonrvn | gona tell him as soon as he comes back ;) |
| 15:42.52 | ajavid | in the south, asshole rednecks do that. go chasing low self esteem fat chics, and you konw the rest.. oh you're so lucky to be with me, im the only guy who'll be with you etc. etc, and then they use them |
| 15:42.56 | ajavid | assholes |
| 15:42.58 | ajavid | gravity, |
| 15:43.06 | gravity | ajavid: Wow, I've never heard of that |
| 15:43.11 | ajavid | yeh, its horrible |
| 15:43.15 | jelly | gravity: eh, I tried 2.6.30, then 31rc2, rc4, and gave up :-) |
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| 15:43.25 | gravity | jelly: Ouch. Yeah... all sorts of fun... |
| 15:43.28 | simonrvn | gravity: it is very bad. no respect :( |
| 15:43.37 | gNewPower | ajavid, "aptitude search -d chess" does not show toga2 even though its description says that it is a "chess engine". What am I doing wrong? |
| 15:43.47 | ajavid | gNewPower, aptitude search ~dchess |
| 15:43.49 | jelly | if there's newer video-intel than 2.8.0 packaged in unstable or exp, I'll give it another whirl |
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| 15:43.56 | gravity | Once I'm done with doing some scripting for the XSF I'll get to work on learning the radeon KMS stuff |
| 15:44.03 | gravity | Although I need to fix EXA on my hardware first |
| 15:44.04 | gNewPower | ajavid, thanks, brb |
| 15:44.10 | ajavid | np |
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| 15:44.28 | gravity | simonrvn: Sounds like it. I'd rather give him the benefit of the doubt though and hope he's just using it as a euphemism for picking up girls. |
| 15:44.51 | gNewPower | ajavid, thanks worked. thanks a lot!! |
| 15:44.59 | jelly | gravity: on this machine at work I have an RS48x (r300, shared mem stuff), I wonder it what ways would it break with UXA/KMS! :-) |
| 15:44.59 | gravity | jelly: 2.8.1 just got uploaded |
| 15:45.06 | ajavid | gNewPower, read the link I gave you |
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| 15:45.14 | simonrvn | suryan49: wb |
| 15:45.17 | ajavid | gNewPower, aptitude common search patterns etc. etc.' |
| 15:45.20 | gNewPower | ajavid, I will. |
| 15:45.25 | jelly | \o/ for 2.8.1 |
| 15:45.27 | simonrvn | suryan49: the bot kicked you for flooding |
| 15:45.27 | ajavid | fantastic, good man |
| 15:45.28 | jatt | can I use dpkg-reconfigure to add the lines needed for menu.lst to load a given kernel? |
| 15:45.31 | suryan49 | sam error |
| 15:45.34 | suryan49 | yeah yeah |
| 15:45.36 | ajavid | jatt, no |
| 15:45.39 | gravity | jelly: 2.8.1 is mainly meant to fix random crashes and such, so it's worth a shot |
| 15:45.41 | ajavid | jatt, update-grub |
| 15:45.58 | jatt | ajavid: thanks |
| 15:46.02 | gNewPower | bye everybody |
| 15:46.02 | suryan49 | d sam error im gettin |
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| 15:46.41 | suryan49 | d error is http://pastebin.com/d5abfd617 |
| 15:46.47 | simonrvn | suryan49: your script needs fixing. your hash bang has an extra ] at the top |
| 15:47.25 | simonrvn | suryan49: it should be #!/bin/sh not ]#!/bin/sh |
| 15:47.49 | jelly | gravity: I like Debian's keeping up with upstream for X. At one moment in October 2008 there was a set of versions where X and Compositing (and Render or whatever's used for ttf fonts) worked beautifully. Never succeeded to do that again. |
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| 15:48.54 | ajavid | gravity, simonrvn, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chubby_chaser |
| 15:48.55 | gravity | jelly: That's too bad. We're trying to more or less keep up with X without bleeding people dry on it. |
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| 15:49.09 | suryan49 | nw d output is http://pastebin.com/d7551948b |
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| 15:49.15 | marcel_ | hi, i just installed debian sid but i noticed there where differect sids how do i know i got the latest one and got the latest applications? |
| 15:49.17 | cypr1nus | does anyone have a problem with kde4.2 and nvidia drivers from repo (in squeezae) i've got some strange artefacts on the screen after altering drivers from site with drivers from repo |
| 15:49.28 | gravity | jelly: One of the main goals for me when I started working on the XSF was to make sure people weren't waiting on hardware support, and I think we've done a reasonable job of that over the years |
| 15:49.35 | simonrvn | suryan49: that's fine |
| 15:49.42 | jelly | gravity: if snapshot.debian.net worked, I'd be able to find the magic combination ;-) |
| 15:49.56 | simonrvn | suryan49: what's the state of it now? dpkg -l adobe-flashplugin |
| 15:50.14 | ajavid | its got a wikipedia article lol |
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| 15:50.37 | simonrvn | ajavid: just about everything you can think of has one ;) |
| 15:50.43 | gravity | hehe |
| 15:50.48 | CosmicDuck | Anybody knows why bt will not become visible with the settings tool in shm? |
| 15:50.50 | gravity | jelly: You can build it all out of git if you like ;-) |
| 15:50.51 | suryan49 | d o/p is http://pastebin.com/d4a29fcb9 |
| 15:51.00 | gravity | jelly: We have the entire history over the past several years tagged and ready |
| 15:51.16 | jelly | gravity: but to get that [hw support] people have to use sid or testing |
| 15:51.41 | jelly | gravity: volatilize the drivers! :-D |
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| 15:52.02 | jelly | (if that were possible) |
| 15:52.16 | jelly | make xorg have a stable ABI :-D |
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| 15:52.18 | gravity | jelly: That's... not a bad idea. |
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| 15:53.20 | jelly | well, you made some drivers for etchnhalf |
| 15:53.23 | gravity | I'll have to think about that. mesa isn't going to happen, but 2d support can. The problem would be needing a new kernel, but that's not too hard for people to do themselves |
| 15:53.29 | simonrvn | suryan49: ok, now you'll have to do the same with the postrm, commenting out the contents of the case statement, and inserting the : , and call that postrm with purge |
| 15:53.32 | gravity | Yeah, we did. I assumed that's all we'd do. |
| 15:53.41 | gravity | That and backports |
| 15:53.52 | balor | Is it possible to tell the debian-installer to skip a step. i.e. I've manually created my partitions and mount /target, can I say something like "d-i --force install-base"? |
| 15:53.54 | gravity | If we have the manpower, putting them in volatile might work |
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| 15:54.13 | gravity | I'll have to talk about it with jcristau and bgoglin, but that's a good idea |
| 15:54.36 | jelly | don't make extra work for yourselves if there's no audience for that. |
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| 15:54.41 | suryan49 | shuld i mak d variants also null ???? |
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| 15:54.56 | simonrvn | what? |
| 15:55.25 | suryan49 | $variants=?? |
| 15:55.32 | simonrvn | don't bother |
| 15:55.45 | jelly | goes back to repacking proprietary software to make it work on sarge |
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| 15:56.42 | simonrvn | suryan49: that CL BTW would be sh -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/adobe-flashplugin.postrm purge |
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| 15:57.01 | suryan49 | ok |
| 15:57.04 | simonrvn | is sneaky |
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| 15:57.40 | simonrvn | suryan49: before you execute that pastebin the script |
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| 15:58.38 | suryan49 | dis is d postinst file http://pastebin.com/dcd908d8 |
| 15:58.57 | simonrvn | suryan49: BTW, thank you for your patience. you also get to learn some things too. good for you |
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| 15:59.29 | suryan49 | yeah thnx for u ppl too ...... |
| 15:59.37 | izua | what's the name of the ext3 module in the lsmod list? |
| 15:59.43 | simonrvn | suryan49: wrong file, postrm not postinst |
| 15:59.45 | epsas | brain fart |
| 15:59.57 | epsas | what's the shell command to split a string by delimeters? |
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| 16:00.06 | suryan49 | ohhh shit |
| 16:00.12 | simonrvn | cut? |
| 16:00.16 | suryan49 | i saved d file .... |
| 16:00.22 | epsas | simonrvn - yeah =D thx |
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| 16:00.35 | simonrvn | s'ok, this is why we're commenting stuff not removing |
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| 16:00.55 | suryan49 | no directly in d fil |
| 16:01.02 | suryan49 | i saved it as a root |
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| 16:01.23 | simonrvn | of course, it's root-owned |
| 16:01.37 | suryan49 | no probs |
| 16:01.43 | suryan49 | i hav d pastebin fil |
| 16:01.50 | suryan49 | i'l edot d postrm file |
| 16:01.55 | suryan49 | i'l edit it now |
| 16:02.16 | simonrvn | oh, you had saved it as the postrm? ouchies hehe |
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| 16:04.14 | suryan49 | d postrm fil is not der |
| 16:04.15 | suryan49 | i mean adobe-flashplugin.postrm |
| 16:04.15 | simonrvn | mm ok |
| 16:04.51 | simonrvn | ok, let's try sh -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/adobe-flashplugin.postinst configure |
| 16:05.18 | simonrvn | then check its state after with the dpkg -l |
| 16:05.43 | suryan49 | shuld i try it ??? |
| 16:06.16 | simonrvn | yes |
| 16:06.58 | jelly | simonrvn: running it manually won't change anything in dpkg's db |
| 16:07.22 | suryan49 | d output is http://pastebin.com/d7ea79575 |
| 16:07.30 | jelly | simonrvn: but if it succeeds manually, one can be reasonably safe it'll succeed with dpkg --configure packagename as well |
| 16:07.35 | simonrvn | jelly: that's why the next step is to run it via dpkg |
| 16:07.39 | abrotman | jebus .. don't use that package on debian |
| 16:07.44 | abrotman | why do people keep doing that? |
| 16:07.55 | jelly | won't tell anyone he has it installed and working |
| 16:07.59 | jelly | ^_^ |
| 16:08.05 | abrotman | jelly: you have skills ... |
| 16:08.11 | jelly | MAD ones |
| 16:08.23 | abrotman | angry! |
| 16:08.28 | gravity | Not enough "z's" in your skills |
| 16:08.32 | simonrvn | suryan49: ok now do it with dpkg; dpkg --configure adobe-flashplugin |
| 16:08.39 | jelly | MAD onez* |
| 16:08.41 | simonrvn | skillzzz |
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| 16:09.00 | simonrvn | suryan49: then try --purge |
| 16:09.17 | simonrvn | gets a pack of smokes |
| 16:09.21 | abrotman | that package doesn't work on debian |
| 16:09.29 | abrotman | or not easily |
| 16:09.30 | suryan49 | d error is http://pastebin.com/d6bbc3004 |
| 16:09.40 | jelly | gives simonrvn a /me |
| 16:09.45 | suryan49 | in place of configure ?? |
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| 16:10.09 | simonrvn | yes |
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| 16:10.12 | simonrvn | accepts jelly's /me offer |
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| 16:10.49 | suryan49 | d error is you should |
| 16:10.49 | suryan49 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:11.18 | simonrvn | did you do --confiugre first? |
| 16:11.23 | simonrvn | configure* |
| 16:11.59 | suryan49 | yeah |
| 16:12.07 | suryan49 | it didn't happen |
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| 16:12.23 | jelly | dpkg doesn't ever try to do it, because of the current status (which is...?) |
| 16:12.23 | dpkg | jelly: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 16:12.27 | simonrvn | i'm missing a step... |
| 16:12.37 | simonrvn | iFR |
| 16:12.44 | simonrvn | rFR |
| 16:13.10 | jelly | would change it to iu manually in /v/l/d/status :-D |
| 16:13.23 | simonrvn | yeh, that's what i'm thinking |
| 16:13.33 | jelly | then do a --configure |
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| 16:13.43 | suryan49 | it is not happenin |
| 16:13.49 | suryan49 | it's throwin an error |
| 16:13.57 | suryan49 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:14.06 | jelly | suryan49: not at present time, we know. |
| 16:14.33 | jelly | suryan49: can you do a dpkg -i wherever.deb again? |
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| 16:14.41 | suryan49 | no |
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| 16:14.46 | jelly | why not? |
| 16:14.56 | suryan49 | it's not accepting the request |
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| 16:15.09 | jelly | how is it not accepting the request?\ |
| 16:15.16 | simonrvn | install ok not-installed IIRC |
| 16:15.51 | suryan49 | yeah |
| 16:15.55 | suryan49 | it's accepting |
| 16:15.57 | simonrvn | or using --set-selections |
| 16:16.18 | suryan49 | but d thing is dat we need 2 knw all d dependencies of the particular package..,. |
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| 16:16.51 | simonrvn | we don't care right now; all you need is to get it installed ok, then --purge it |
| 16:16.57 | jelly | wonders if it's too much to ask of suryan49 to write in English |
| 16:17.29 | jelly | I'm not a native speaker, and have to reparse all the phonetic crap |
| 16:17.48 | suryan49 | ok den u want me to re-install d package again ????? |
| 16:17.59 | simonrvn | "but the thing is that we need to know all the..." |
| 16:18.01 | suryan49 | download from d adobe site n install it ???? |
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| 16:18.28 | jelly | suryan49: yes. This time don't delete the .deb. |
| 16:18.41 | suryan49 | wich deb ???? |
| 16:18.57 | jelly | THE ONE WE'RE DISCUSSING THE WHOLE TIME |
| 16:19.03 | suryan49 | i installed from d deb file .... |
| 16:19.05 | jelly | *phew* |
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| 16:19.12 | suryan49 | yeah yeah flashplayer.deb |
| 16:19.15 | suryan49 | okei |
| 16:19.32 | jelly | if you still have it, just dpkg -i it again |
| 16:19.35 | abrotman | suryan49: please use whole words |
| 16:19.52 | suryan49 | ok fine ... sorry for your inconvinence..... |
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| 16:20.01 | abrotman | suryan49: you cannot expect people to parse the crap flowing from your keyboard .. not everyone here is a native speaker |
| 16:20.05 | sunru | hello, i'm setting up lenny in a chroot using debootstrap, problem is I have no idea how to setup the initramfs to mount the encrypted root partition any docs? |
| 16:20.16 | suryan49 | ok sorry ..... |
| 16:20.26 | simonrvn | i'm not, but i pass as one :P |
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| 16:21.02 | syslq78_ | Can aptitude purge config files (aptitude purge blabla leaves behind some )? |
| 16:21.19 | simonrvn | yes, it's supposed to |
| 16:21.28 | suryan49 | just now i have installed it |
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| 16:21.44 | simonrvn | now dpkg -P adobe-flashplugin |
| 16:21.45 | abrotman | syslq78_: you may not have purged the correct package |
| 16:21.52 | suryan49 | d output is http://pastebin.com/d6aa6d494 |
| 16:21.57 | jelly | suryan49: the reason: if you dpkg -i the very same version, dpkg acts smart and (I think) doesn't unpack the install scripts, but uses the present ones. So if you've fixed them, the installation or removal might succeed now. |
| 16:21.57 | abrotman | ENGLISH |
| 16:22.20 | simonrvn | suryan49: now dpkg -P adobe-flashplugin |
| 16:22.21 | syslq78_ | abrotman: I have purged correct package |
| 16:22.28 | suryan49 | ok |
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| 16:22.55 | simonrvn | jelly: yes |
| 16:22.59 | abrotman | syslq78_: and it still left files behind ? |
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| 16:23.14 | syslq78_ | abrotman: yes, pure-ftpd |
| 16:23.23 | simonrvn | jelly: only if the old scripts fail does it try the new ones |
| 16:23.26 | syslq78_ | abrotman: all config files in /etc and log files |
| 16:23.32 | suryan49 | d out put is http://pastebin.com/d5597f429 |
| 16:23.35 | syslq78_ | and in /etc/default too but binary is gone |
| 16:23.48 | abrotman | syslq78_: and which package did you purge |
| 16:23.58 | syslq78_ | pure-ftpd |
| 16:24.05 | syslq78_ | abrotman: the one I have installed |
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| 16:24.12 | abrotman | suryan49: seriously, use whole words. This is getting beyond annoying |
| 16:24.29 | abrotman | syslq78_: so you didn't purge pure-ftpd-common ? |
| 16:24.40 | simonrvn | suryan49: ok, modify the /var/lib/dpkg/info/adobe-flashplugin.*rm to NOT call update-alternatives and it should be ok |
| 16:24.54 | simonrvn | suryan49: like we did before |
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| 16:25.00 | suryan49 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:25.02 | syslq78_ | abrotman: no, but I didnt install it per se, although it might be installed as deopendency |
| 16:25.20 | syslq78_ | abrotman: how could I know that I thought you purge the package you install |
| 16:25.26 | simonrvn | suryan49: might as well check the *inst too |
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| 16:25.42 | suryan49 | ok f9 |
| 16:25.45 | suryan49 | fine |
| 16:26.04 | abrotman | syslq78_: okay .. so i told you? |
| 16:26.07 | sunru | debian installer has made me stupid |
| 16:26.18 | simonrvn | suryan49: once you've done that try --purge again |
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| 16:26.28 | syslq78_ | abrotman: just cehecked common is still installed, is although I used find to purge it completely anyway but still. How could I know with every package? |
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| 16:26.48 | asdzxc | hi |
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| 16:27.03 | simonrvn | needs to eat |
| 16:27.10 | asdzxc | does anybody knows if any of the Intel boards supports write-back cache and has a battery for it ? |
| 16:27.54 | abrotman | you mean the onboard SATA ? |
| 16:28.04 | asdzxc | yes |
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| 16:29.28 | asdzxc | abrotman: do you know any intel boards which supports this ? |
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| 16:30.26 | MikeH | "checking for main in -lGLEW... no" , anyone have any idea what I'm missing? |
| 16:30.26 | suryan49 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:30.50 | suryan49 | should i go ahead with the sam with postinst file also ???? |
| 16:31.34 | abrotman | asdzxc: no, ask ##hardware .. but you'll probably have to buy a real controller |
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| 16:31.52 | suryan49 | hey my synaptic is back now |
| 16:32.08 | asdzxc | abrotman: ok, thnx |
| 16:32.18 | suryan49 | it has opened without changing the file |
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| 16:32.55 | suryan49 | after i have saved the prem file ... i jus run synaptic |
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| 16:32.58 | suryan49 | it has opened |
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| 16:33.08 | simonrvn | suryan49: like i said, check all of them, make sure only the : are there and the rest is commented out like you had done it; then do the dpkg --purge adobe-flashplugin |
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| 16:33.45 | suryan49 | if i do removing the flashplugin does the same problem araise again ???? |
| 16:33.48 | simonrvn | has some oatmeal, maple syrup, and fresh blueberries |
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| 16:34.04 | suryan49 | i have done the prem file |
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| 16:34.23 | suryan49 | after that would you lik me edit which file ????? |
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| 16:35.15 | irb111 | hello |
| 16:35.18 | irb111 | i'm a newbie |
| 16:35.20 | simonrvn | check all of the /var/lig/dpkg/info/adobe-flashplugin post,pre inst,rm files; if one's missing ignore it |
| 16:35.34 | irb111 | what's the easiet way to install a GUI for my system? apt-get install gnome? |
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| 16:35.47 | simonrvn | irb111: so am i with certain things |
| 16:35.58 | simonrvn | irb111: you'll need XOrg too |
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| 16:36.21 | irb111 | simonvn: i install x-window-system |
| 16:36.26 | irb111 | what else do i need to install? |
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| 16:37.03 | simonrvn | aptitude install gnome will pull in a lot of gnome; you can do that if you want |
| 16:37.16 | simonrvn | !install gnome |
| 16:37.16 | dpkg | To install GNOME on sarge or later, install the 'gnome' package to install everything, the 'gnome-desktop-environment' package for slightly less stuff, or the 'gnome-core' package for even less. You will need X installed as well, ask me about <install x>. http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome |
| 16:37.26 | gravity | irb111: x-window-system has been replaced by the xorg package |
| 16:37.39 | simonrvn | !install x |
| 16:37.39 | dpkg | To install X in Debian Etch or later: "aptitude update && aptitude install xorg". You may also want to install a desktop environment - ask me about <install gnome>, <install kde>, <install xfce>, <install lxde> - or a window manager, ask me about <window manager>. To reconfigure your X server, ask me about <drxx>. |
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| 16:37.50 | suryan49 | i hav adobe-flashplugin. list , md5sums , prerm , postinst |
| 16:38.06 | abrotman | irb111: aptitude install xorg gdm gnome |
| 16:38.06 | keith4 | irb111: you can get by with xserver-xorg, xinit, and a WM, like fluxbox |
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| 16:38.10 | simonrvn | suryan49: just the last two |
| 16:38.16 | suryan49 | ok fine |
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| 16:38.20 | abrotman | keith4: really, use the 'xorg' package |
| 16:38.31 | gravity | yesplz |
| 16:38.40 | simonrvn | suryan49: so if you're done, --purge the bugger |
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| 16:38.47 | clusty | hey |
| 16:38.51 | suryan49 | ok |
| 16:39.02 | keith4 | abrotman: ah, that'll take care of the font dependencies too |
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| 16:39.12 | keith4 | irb111: forget what i said, listen to abrotman |
| 16:39.16 | clusty | is there any reason to use automount instead of static mounts when it comes to homes-over-NFS ? |
| 16:39.18 | simonrvn | brb |
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| 16:39.48 | irb111 | abrotman: i am tyring your command now |
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| 16:42.04 | simonrvn | back |
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| 16:42.49 | simonrvn | clusty: you can use pammount too |
| 16:43.45 | clusty | simonrvn, can you comment on advantages ? |
| 16:43.56 | clusty | for static/autofs/pam mounts |
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| 16:45.19 | suryan49 | i am getting errors still |
| 16:45.23 | Optic | is it possible to have the linux kernel automatically search for teh root partition, instead of specifying root= in the kernel command line? |
| 16:45.46 | suryan49 | d pastebin fil is http://pastebin.com/d3c7e888d |
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| 16:46.21 | abrotman | suryan49: do you talk like this to your parents? |
| 16:47.07 | suryan49 | sorry ..... |
| 16:47.22 | suryan49 | the pastebin file of prerm file is http://pastebin.com/d7018e238 |
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| 16:48.26 | suryan49 | the pastebin file of postinst file is http://pastebin.com/d7655aebb |
| 16:48.27 | simonrvn | exec format error? why would that happen? |
| 16:48.42 | simonrvn | suryan49: dude, pay attention to your hash bang |
| 16:49.47 | suryan49 | i didn't get you .... |
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| 16:51.07 | simonrvn | the very first line in the script |
| 16:51.30 | Woodi | clusty: automounting gives some protection for rm -fr :) |
| 16:51.39 | clusty | :D |
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| 16:52.15 | suryan49 | yeah yeah i got it... |
| 16:52.17 | fxiny | suryan49: d sh bng :P |
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| 16:52.35 | suryan49 | dpkg: warning: while removing adobe-flashplugin, directory '/usr/lib/firefox/plugins' not empty so not removed. |
| 16:52.35 | dpkg | suryan49: You are person #2 to send an unparseable request |
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| 16:54.06 | suryan49 | now the output is http://pastebin.com/d379fe1e5 |
| 16:54.42 | lindenle | Hi all is there a way to tell aptitude or apt-get not to ask any questions in installation of packages so that I can install them from cfengine (i.e. can I pre-agree to the sun java license agreement?) |
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| 16:55.43 | Titan8990_ | lindenle, -y maybe |
| 16:56.25 | enouf | lindenle: maybe dpkg-preconfigure |
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| 16:56.32 | lindenle | Titan8990_: let me check... already have -y and still java install hangs....when run through cfengine, it pops up an ncurses window |
| 16:56.41 | lindenle | enouf: can you elaborate? |
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| 16:57.08 | enouf | man dpkg-preconfigure |
| 16:57.27 | enouf | fxiny: !! no probs! |
| 16:57.32 | enouf | er porbs :-p |
| 16:57.41 | suryan49 | now the error is ignoring request to remove adobe-flashplugin which isn't installed. |
| 16:58.05 | enouf | fxiny: yeah, dwheels on dbus go round and round :-0 |
| 16:58.07 | fxiny | enouf: pnurge any porbs ;) |
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| 16:58.47 | km | is it possilbe to update the timestamp on symlink? |
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| 16:59.05 | km | i try touch on symlink but it didn't get update |
| 16:59.11 | enouf | find + touch maybe? |
| 16:59.40 | enouf | yeah, symlinks are odd - why not rm it and create anew - use -f |
| 16:59.54 | km | ? |
| 17:00.14 | enouf | just ln -sf ... |
| 17:00.21 | km | is it possilbe to update the timestamp on symlink? |
| 17:00.23 | enouf | force overwrite it |
| 17:00.34 | km | i try touch on symlink but it didn't get update |
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| 17:01.45 | km | ln -sf will update it, but not with touch |
| 17:02.04 | km | any ideas? |
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| 17:02.48 | simonrvn | suryan49: rm the stuff in those dirs having to do with flash |
| 17:03.16 | simonrvn | that's a good thing |
| 17:03.27 | suryan49 | ok fine.... |
| 17:03.30 | adb | suryan49: run > dpkg -P adobe-flashplugin |
| 17:03.46 | simonrvn | adb: we've been over this ;) |
| 17:04.04 | enouf | heh hours now |
| 17:04.38 | simonrvn | km: touch --no-dereference or such? |
| 17:04.41 | enouf | km: what's wrong with ln -sf? |
| 17:04.57 | enouf | right - if there's a nodeference option, use it |
| 17:05.07 | km | ok |
| 17:05.12 | simonrvn | heh, deference |
| 17:05.19 | enouf | has to visit the manpage? i think not ;-) |
| 17:05.20 | suryan49 | it has a folder named plugins in which nphelix.so nphelix.xpt are present |
| 17:05.28 | simonrvn | it's funny in context |
| 17:05.37 | simonrvn | suryan49: ignore those |
| 17:05.38 | enouf | indeed |
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| 17:05.57 | simonrvn | ln is deferring to the synlink :P |
| 17:06.00 | suryan49 | so how should i remove the folder |
| 17:06.03 | simonrvn | sym* |
| 17:06.07 | enouf | hah! |
| 17:06.10 | simonrvn | suryan49: you don't |
| 17:06.21 | suryan49 | no need of removing the folder ????? |
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| 17:06.27 | simonrvn | NO |
| 17:06.34 | suryan49 | then the package is not going to remove .... |
| 17:06.42 | fxiny | km: scroll down to "Since POSIX.1-2008" at http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/symlink.html |
| 17:06.43 | suryan49 | is it ok with the system ???? |
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| 17:07.01 | simonrvn | suryan49: those have nothing to do with the package |
| 17:07.05 | lvh | hi |
| 17:07.15 | simonrvn | DO NOT remove those directories |
| 17:07.24 | simonrvn | just the package's files |
| 17:07.34 | suryan49 | only files ??? |
| 17:07.44 | MikeH | I need something to check 3d acceleration is working, any suggestions? |
| 17:07.52 | suryan49 | so, which file ?? |
| 17:08.05 | simonrvn | suryan49: brb |
| 17:08.20 | pipeline | MikeH: glxinfo | grep irect |
| 17:08.42 | pipeline | MikeH: if direct rendering is enabled and glxinfo is returning data, then everything should be go |
| 17:08.43 | brbrbr | MikeH FurMark over WINE ? ;) |
| 17:09.25 | simonrvn | suryan49: those dirs are used by other packages, you just need to have the files connected to the flashplugin package gone |
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| 17:09.45 | simonrvn | suryan49: they probably are if everything happened normally |
| 17:09.47 | papul | i am facing a strange problem |
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| 17:10.05 | suryan49 | thats what i am asking which files should i delete ??? |
| 17:10.16 | suryan49 | there are only two files |
| 17:10.30 | suryan49 | nphelix.so and nphelix.pt |
| 17:10.34 | papul | i can apt-get upgrade but cant apt-get install irssi |
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| 17:10.37 | simonrvn | they aren't part of it (for the third time) |
| 17:10.50 | papul | i can apt-get upgrade but cant apt-get install irssi |
| 17:11.05 | enouf | why not? |
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| 17:11.19 | fxiny | that's a tragedy ! |
| 17:11.26 | papul | can anyone help me |
| 17:11.29 | enouf | bah - install xchat :-P |
| 17:11.42 | Woodi | papul: apt-get remove irssi first ? |
| 17:11.43 | MikeH | pipeline: thanks, direct rendering is reporting as yes |
| 17:11.45 | Titan8990_ | enouf, you supposed to use your psychic abilities, not ask why not |
| 17:11.49 | papul | enouf, cant do that also |
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| 17:11.55 | suryan49 | ok fine... but when i am tryin to purge the package the error i get is http://pastebin.com/d6cbc3d0f |
| 17:11.57 | papul | i just cant install anything |
| 17:12.01 | MikeH | do you have any idea if vdpau can be tested in a similar manner before actually just trying it? |
| 17:12.04 | simonrvn | Titan8990_: his crystal ball is borked |
| 17:12.07 | Titan8990_ | !tell papul about ask |
| 17:12.09 | enouf | !8ball am i psychic or psychotic? |
| 17:12.09 | dpkg | Sure. Yeah, exactly. |
| 17:12.16 | papul | i installed from 650mb iso |
| 17:12.19 | fxiny | papul: are you root ? |
| 17:12.43 | papul | fxiny, yes |
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| 17:13.03 | Titan8990_ | papul, dude, we just want to know what happens when you try |
| 17:13.07 | enouf | papul: cdrom line? |
| 17:13.10 | Titan8990_ | !doesnt work |
| 17:13.10 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
| 17:13.27 | fxiny | don't tell me you are not running debian or i'll eat a LARGE curry |
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| 17:13.44 | papul | it says package not found |
| 17:13.52 | enouf | papul: apt-get update |
| 17:13.55 | papul | i think it never searches the we |
| 17:13.59 | clusty | another question: is there a way to synch linux passwords with ldap ones automagically? |
| 17:14.04 | papul | *web |
| 17:14.05 | enouf | then; /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 17:14.06 | Titan8990_ | papul, aptitude search irssi |
| 17:14.11 | papul | enouf, i did that |
| 17:14.13 | clusty | or i will make a cron job to synch hourly or so? |
| 17:14.16 | enouf | and setup your networking |
| 17:14.21 | enouf | !interfaces |
| 17:14.21 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for docs, (zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz for an example). Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client>, read "man resolv.conf" for DNS. Also ask me about <static route>. |
| 17:14.33 | Titan8990_ | clusty, PAM can do it |
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| 17:14.53 | enouf | libpam-ldap? |
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| 17:15.03 | Woodi | enouf: for academic network with many small host awailable for students to log in ? |
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| 17:15.17 | enouf | huh? |
| 17:15.18 | Woodi | err, nvm |
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| 17:15.44 | Woodi | yea libpam-ldap should work |
| 17:15.52 | clusty | Titan8990, so pam-ldap keeps passwords in synch? |
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| 17:16.14 | Woodi | just configure it properly |
| 17:16.38 | Titan8990_ | clusty, keeping it "in sync" is pointless.... you should be wanting it to authenticate to the LDAP server |
| 17:16.51 | enouf | ~$ apt-cache show libpam-ldap |
| 17:17.31 | clusty | Titan8990, well i mean for example if some user does a passwd on the server (which has not ldap client) then ldap cannot know of the new password |
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| 17:18.16 | tzd | #solr - Support for Apache Solr. Don't be surprised if you are asked to go to another channel if your question is not relevant. |
| 17:18.16 | tzd | <tzd> hi everyone! I have a problem with my LAMP installation in Debian Lenny (5). I can't access it from outside my LAN. I've set up my router to forward traffic to the server but it just won't work. I've tried with different ports and I've tried without the router (straight to my internet switch). I am however able to access it via it's LAN ip but not with the domain name that I've forward to my server ip (it finds the hostname and it matche |
| 17:18.16 | tzd | s my e |
| 17:18.17 | tzd | <tzd> xternal ip but just can't connect). Is there anyone that might be able to help me please? |
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| 17:18.25 | suryan49 | thnx for your help. ....... |
| 17:18.44 | suryan49 | need to go now |
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| 17:19.00 | Titan8990_ | clusty, why would a user be changing his UNIX password when he authenticates via ldap? |
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| 17:19.29 | enouf | !customer |
| 17:19.29 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 17:19.56 | clusty | Titan8990, the LDAP server is a machine that ppl can log into. so far i did nto install any ldap clients there |
| 17:20.00 | enouf | guys; what besides OO.o could/should i use to write a resume? |
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| 17:20.14 | clusty | Titan8990, so basically LDAP should be the sole method of auth? |
| 17:20.19 | enouf | and no DE specific things, please |
| 17:20.41 | enouf | clusty: well, why are you even using LDAP? |
| 17:21.04 | Titan8990_ | clusty, if the goal is a centralized authentication server, yes |
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| 17:21.14 | tzd | hi everyone! I am unable to connect to my LAMP server from outside my LAN in debian Lenny. Can someone please help me? |
| 17:21.16 | clusty | enouf, till now we had one big muscle PC where all computations were done. now we got 10 muscles |
| 17:21.29 | pipeline | tzd: you probably need to be doing NAT |
| 17:21.34 | enouf | tzd: you got kicked for flooding - use a pastebin nexxt time |
| 17:21.34 | clusty | i want to use previus muscle as LDAP server and have 1 set of users all over |
| 17:21.34 | Lanz | Hello. |
| 17:21.35 | pipeline | tzd: or you have a garbage default route |
| 17:21.37 | Lanz | I'm having problems with an Atheros AR928X wireless adapter. I have the ath9k module loaded as per the instructions found at http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k but the device does not detect any networks and cannot connect when an ESSID is manually entered. I'm running Squeeze on an Asus G71 laptop. |
| 17:21.40 | clusty | rather than making users by hand |
| 17:21.42 | Titan8990_ | tzd, are you behind a NAT enabled to device such as a router? |
| 17:21.48 | Optic | mooop |
| 17:22.02 | enouf | tzd: if nohelp here, try #networking, though some i see are trying to help youhere |
| 17:22.03 | Lanz | The device seems as if it's working fine based on iwconfig and such, but dmesg shows "wlan0: link is not ready" |
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| 17:22.31 | tzd | pipeline: Titan8990 yes I'm behind a router, although I've opened up port 80 to the server |
| 17:22.43 | Titan8990_ | Lanz, what does lscpi -k show for the in use module? |
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| 17:22.53 | Woodi | clusty: use migration tools from padl.com on first server and then configure rest to use ldap |
| 17:23.01 | careta | hello |
| 17:23.01 | tzd | enouf: yes will do, thanks! |
| 17:23.04 | Titan8990_ | tzd, does it show that its open if you port scan it? |
| 17:23.10 | brbrbr | btw, there is way to to setup two-way auth in Lenny ? meant with flash keys, tokens and etc |
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| 17:23.22 | Titan8990_ | tzd, does your ISP filter port 80 to prevent you from running a web server |
| 17:23.30 | tzd | Titan8990: i've used a website called canyouseeme.org and according to that one it works |
| 17:23.43 | careta | I need help setting up mkinitramfs-tools. I have an encrypted lvm with my root partition inside, and a unencrypted boot. |
| 17:23.45 | clusty | Woodi, did that. now say some user changes pass on the server1 and tries to use that passwords on servers 2-10 |
| 17:23.51 | clusty | Woodi, pass won't work |
| 17:24.27 | tzd | Titan8990: i read that the website i told you about was suppose to check whether the isp filters port 80 or not. |
| 17:24.27 | enouf | careta: add dmcryptand dm-mod and dm-setup to /etc/initramfs/modules and update-initramfs |
| 17:24.33 | Woodi | clusty: on all servers configure passwd to use pam and pam to use ldap |
| 17:24.40 | enouf | careta: just a first WAG |
| 17:24.57 | irb111 | how can i change the resolution options i have for my screen? i only have two options in the drop down. do i have to modify the xorg.conf file? |
| 17:25.05 | clusty | Woodi, got it :D |
| 17:25.17 | Woodi | clusty: :) |
| 17:25.19 | Titan8990_ | tzd, run tcpdump on the server and see if the traffic is making it to the machine, if not, you have your router misconfigured |
| 17:25.34 | Lanz | Tital8990_: it shows "07:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01) Subsystem: Device 1a3b:1067 Kernel driver in use: ath9k" |
| 17:25.35 | Woodi | clusty: and protect your ldap server better then other |
| 17:25.48 | Lanz | *Titan8990_ |
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| 17:25.54 | Titan8990_ | Lanz, i network manager running? |
| 17:25.57 | Lanz | Yes |
| 17:26.06 | Lanz | As well as the kde interface to it |
| 17:26.10 | Titan8990_ | lanthan, network manager trumps iwconfig, disable it |
| 17:26.22 | Titan8990_ | ^ Lanz |
| 17:26.35 | tzd | Titan8990: hmm got tcpdump - command not found when trying to issue that cmd |
| 17:26.41 | enouf | !installit |
| 17:26.41 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
| 17:26.49 | Lanz | Okay, once I disable networkmanager, then what? |
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| 17:27.04 | enouf | !wifi howto |
| 17:27.04 | dpkg | The Linux Wireless LAN HOWTO is at http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux Additional resources and links to related information/websites also available. See also http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi and http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
| 17:27.14 | Titan8990_ | Lanz, iwlist scan |
| 17:27.18 | enouf | see last two URLs |
| 17:27.20 | tzd | enouf: got it cheers :) Used to ubuntu where it tells my to sudo apt-get the app in case i dont have it ;) |
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| 17:27.28 | Lanz | enouf: been there and tried most of that |
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| 17:27.55 | enouf | Lanz: did you yet try enabling WPA, wpasupplicant? |
| 17:28.05 | enouf | Lanz: not that you should ././. yet |
| 17:28.36 | sylar | where are the PPD files that cups use? |
| 17:28.44 | Lanz | I have wpasupplicant installed, and wireless security is currently disabled on my network. |
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| 17:28.53 | careta | enouf, only dm-setup was left |
| 17:28.59 | careta | do you think it should work now? |
| 17:29.02 | enouf | follow the others Lanz |
| 17:29.03 | Titan8990_ | sylar, some are available in the repos, others will be on the manufacture's website |
| 17:29.07 | enouf | isuckat wifi |
| 17:29.16 | Titan8990_ | sylar, in linux, imo, if its not an HP, its a paperweight |
| 17:29.20 | sharp15 | is there a way to restrict apt-cache's output to packages the user requested be installed instead of everything installed? |
| 17:29.22 | sylar | Titan8990, I mean what I use, becose I forgot |
| 17:29.25 | enouf | sylar: hplip pkg, and suh for HP |
| 17:29.31 | enouf | such* |
| 17:29.50 | Titan8990_ | sylar, well, i can't remember what YOU use either.... |
| 17:29.52 | sylar | I have installed already the printer |
| 17:30.09 | sylar | I just want to find where its PPD file is |
| 17:30.09 | enouf | apt-cache search ppd ... or ^hp | grep ppd |
| 17:30.41 | enouf | find in http://localhost:630/admin |
| 17:30.46 | enouf | configuer printer |
| 17:30.51 | sylar | no, no, it is a ppd file, just a stinking little file |
| 17:30.56 | enouf | first start CUPS |
| 17:30.57 | tzd | Titan8990: may i ask what to look for when issuing tcpdump please? Seems to be tons of info :) |
| 17:31.01 | enouf | omg |
| 17:31.08 | Titan8990_ | enouf, its port 631 |
| 17:31.16 | enouf | thanks - right! |
| 17:31.17 | Titan8990_ | tzd, incoming HTTP traffic |
| 17:31.31 | tzd | Titan8990: thanks |
| 17:31.36 | Titan8990_ | tzd, from the box that you are testing with from outside the LAN |
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| 17:31.49 | enouf | Titan8990_: IINM, wireless-tools can be used to sort/parse tcpdump info? |
| 17:31.53 | Titan8990_ | tzd, if it helps to get a visual, you upload tcpdump capture files into wireshark |
| 17:32.09 | enouf | er, yeah, wireshark - heh ;-) |
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| 17:32.09 | Titan8990_ | enouf, not sure really, i almost always load them into wireshark |
| 17:32.16 | enouf | yeah, my bad |
| 17:32.20 | sylar | enouf, the problem is that if I select modify printer it want me to select the PPD file for it |
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| 17:32.28 | sylar | and I just don't recall |
| 17:32.32 | enouf | right - install it, then choose it |
| 17:32.48 | enouf | OR, like i had to do, copy the PPD file into /etc/cups/* somewhere |
| 17:33.00 | fxiny | tzd: tcpdump -i <nterface> port 80 ? |
| 17:33.02 | Titan8990_ | sylar, if they were installed via apt, they will be in the list |
| 17:33.11 | Lanz | Titan8990_: iwlist scan returns no scan results, with network-manager uninstalled and gone |
| 17:33.18 | Titan8990_ | fxiny, he will want -w if hes loading into wireshark |
| 17:33.18 | Lanz | I rebooted too for good measure |
| 17:33.19 | sylar | Titan8990, I have manually installed it |
| 17:33.21 | tzd | Titan8990: this is way beyond my league im afraid. I've heard of wireshark but that's about it. My server is a virtual machine that runs on the same client as i am running now |
| 17:33.27 | Titan8990_ | Lanz, you dind't have to uninstall it.... |
| 17:33.28 | tzd | fxiny: thanks, will try that one |
| 17:33.37 | Lanz | Well I did, what's next? |
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| 17:33.53 | Titan8990_ | tzd, it may have helped if you told us your local box was the router.... |
| 17:34.05 | sylar | Found it at /etc/cups/ppd , two points for enouf :D |
| 17:34.11 | Titan8990_ | tzd, goto #virtualbox or w/e your virtualization software is |
| 17:34.14 | abrotman | Lanz: still not working ? |
| 17:34.22 | abrotman | Lanz: which kernel are oyu on? uname -a |
| 17:34.24 | Lanz | abrotman: nope :( |
| 17:34.25 | Titan8990_ | tzd, and explain your problem in more detail next time |
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| 17:34.37 | Lanz | 2.6.30-1-amd64 |
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| 17:35.14 | fxiny | Titan8990_: -w or tcpdump port 80 -l > dump.file ? |
| 17:35.22 | fxiny | i prefere tcpflow |
| 17:35.31 | Titan8990_ | are we sure that ath9k doesn't name the device athx? |
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| 17:35.40 | tzd | Titan8990: thanks although I've successfully set up servers like this in the past? This is the first one on debian though. |
| 17:35.47 | careta | enouf, it still doesnt work |
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| 17:35.56 | Titan8990_ | fxiny, no, that records output, you can 't upload that to wireshark... like this: tcpdump -i eth0 -w file.pcap |
| 17:35.57 | hark | yes |
| 17:36.18 | irb111 | is there a way to change the resoltion values on my X Server so GNOME can use better resolution? |
| 17:36.21 | enouf | careta: well - what happens, what exactly did you do; and what changed? (errors different?) |
| 17:36.27 | Lanz | Titan8990_: there is no athx in iwconfig or ifconfig |
| 17:36.43 | Titan8990_ | irb111, xrandr -help |
| 17:36.54 | enouf | there ya go irb111 |
| 17:37.01 | enouf | !xrandr |
| 17:37.01 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, xrandr is a command-line interface to the <RandR> extension; used to set the screen size, orientation and/or reflection. http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 |
| 17:37.10 | Titan8990_ | Lanz, i know, i am just saying if the ath9k module names it athx, then we know there is an issue with your device being named wlan0 |
| 17:37.22 | fxiny | Titan8990_: so you want -w , this is nice too -> tcpflow -c -i <face> tcp port 80 |
| 17:37.27 | Lanz | I don't know if that's the case or not |
| 17:37.31 | enouf | Lanz: ls /sys/class/net |
| 17:37.41 | Titan8990_ | lots of people need help on the ole lunch break today |
| 17:37.45 | enouf | fxiny: :-) |
| 17:37.51 | irb111 | Titan: thanks |
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| 17:37.54 | Lanz | enouf: eth0 lo pan0 wlan0 wmaster0 |
| 17:37.58 | enouf | ewww |
| 17:38.00 | careta | enouf, it is still the same error: waiting for root filesystem. The problem is that I have the lvm encrypted and not the partitions inside it, so the lvm should be unlocked and then the root fs is available (unencrypted) |
| 17:38.08 | irb111 | Titan: i'm not sure what width/size options to use. any suggerstions? |
| 17:38.13 | enouf | Lanz: pan0 is a vbox or something bridge? |
| 17:38.17 | Akuw | i don't understand why this page can play video, i mean my web browser never begin the play ---> http://demo15.hwdmediashare.co.uk/ |
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| 17:38.26 | Titan8990_ | irb111, highest your monitor supports |
| 17:38.29 | Akuw | look what i mean http://www.picpaste.com/Screenshot_4.png |
| 17:38.31 | fxiny | enouf: i'm pnurging ;) |
| 17:38.35 | Lanz | I have no idea what pan0 is |
| 17:38.43 | Lanz | vbox isn't installed |
| 17:38.50 | enouf | irb111: cvt xres yres (IIRC) |
| 17:39.04 | enouf | Lanz: openvz? |
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| 17:39.29 | enouf | ~$ cvt 1280 1024 |
| 17:39.30 | enouf | # 1280x1024 59.89 Hz (CVT 1.31M4) hsync: 63.67 kHz; pclk: 109.00 MHz |
| 17:39.31 | enouf | Modeline "1280x1024_60.00" 109.00 1280 1368 1496 1712 1024 1027 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync |
| 17:39.36 | Lanz | I don't think so, all I did was a netinst and selected Standard System and Laptop, then installed KDE 4.3 |
| 17:39.37 | Titan8990_ | Lanz, pan0 is bluetooth |
| 17:39.40 | Lanz | Ah okay |
| 17:39.46 | enouf | yeouch |
| 17:39.50 | Lanz | Maybe bluetooth interferes with atheros? |
| 17:39.52 | irb111 | Enouf: cvt command not found |
| 17:39.59 | enouf | installit |
| 17:39.59 | Titan8990_ | Lanz, doubt it |
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| 17:40.16 | Titan8990_ | Lanz, have you checked to see if your card is supported by madwifi? |
| 17:40.18 | enouf | xserver-xorg-core: /usr/bin/cvt |
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| 17:40.30 | Lanz | It is, there's even a Debian guide for my series of cards |
| 17:40.34 | Lanz | I followed it when I tried this |
| 17:40.35 | enouf | how could you NOT have that pkg? |
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| 17:40.50 | Titan8990_ | Lanz, link? |
| 17:41.06 | irb111 | Enouf: i checked /usr/bin and CVT is not there |
| 17:41.10 | Lanz | Titan8990_: http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k |
| 17:41.12 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 17:41.56 | fxiny | enouf: iìm in a very good mood . i have harvested a f* 38069 /var/log/dnsmasq.log lines , full of ads servers , you know how ? by using mozilla firefrog 3.5 prefetch ability (?) , the pig scans any link for my *pleasure* , back to rusty iceweasel now :P |
| 17:42.02 | enouf | irb111: apt-get install xorg |
| 17:42.15 | Titan8990_ | wth? ath9k is only in backports? |
| 17:42.22 | enouf | fxiny: haha |
| 17:42.31 | Lanz | I got it from unstable |
| 17:42.39 | Lanz | It's part of 2.6.30 |
| 17:42.44 | enouf | fxiny: take it out back and feed the Toads ;-) |
| 17:43.05 | enouf | TrueDD: !! |
| 17:43.06 | Titan8990_ | Lanz, its part of earlier kernels than that, i guess just not in debian... are you running squeeze? |
| 17:43.22 | irb111 | Enouf: i already have xorg installed |
| 17:43.25 | Lanz | I was running squeeze and then I dist-upgraded to unstable |
| 17:43.29 | Lanz | The card worked on neither |
| 17:43.33 | enouf | !find /usr/bin/cvt |
| 17:43.53 | enouf | Lanz: you might end up messing with madwifi - but heh |
| 17:44.07 | irb111 | Enouf: could i change the xorg.conf file? |
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| 17:44.09 | enouf | !ath9k |
| 17:44.09 | dpkg | [ath9k] a completely free (no proprietary HAL) driver for Atheros 802.11 draft-n PCI wireless LAN chipsets. Included in the mainline kernel since 2.6.27-rc3. Lenny users: ask me about <backports.org> to install a later kernel image containing this driver. For USB 802.11n device support, ask me about <ar9170usb>. http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k |
| 17:44.12 | Lanz | Madwifi no longer exists in Debian |
| 17:44.17 | TrueDD | enouf !!! |
| 17:44.18 | fxiny | enouf: now i'm feeding the ads-servers to dnsmasq banner_add_hosts , i forgot : dsntop provided some handy stats |
| 17:44.18 | TrueDD | :) |
| 17:44.21 | enouf | ... |
| 17:44.23 | TrueDD | how are you ? |
| 17:44.25 | dpkg | Debian Search of '/usr/bin/cvt' (2): (/usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/cvt) in debug/xserver-xorg-core-dbg ;; (/usr/lib/debug/usr/bin/cvtenc) in debug/libgnustep-base1.19-dbg. |
| 17:44.48 | enouf | that should be Lenny pkgs? |
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| 17:45.00 | enouf | ouch |
| 17:45.01 | gravity | We didn't ship cvt for a while. It might just not be in that version. |
| 17:45.07 | enouf | right |
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| 17:45.14 | Lanz | Should I just reinstall Debian and see if that fixes it? |
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| 17:45.24 | enouf | gravity: xrandr on LEnny should be enough though, right? |
| 17:45.35 | enouf | gravity: to enable higher resolutionsin GNOME |
| 17:45.46 | enouf | irb111: yes |
| 17:45.59 | enouf | irb111: but there are X devs about |
| 17:46.04 | gravity | enouf: Maybe. xrandr only reports what the server is aware of, and if the server has bad information then some config might be necessary |
| 17:46.07 | Titan8990_ | enouf, gravity, i have it on my lenny machin |
| 17:46.12 | enouf | keep detailing what you |
| 17:46.17 | enouf | 're doing |
| 17:46.24 | gravity | enouf: The server should add a set of standard modes by default though |
| 17:46.28 | enouf | Titan8990_: backports? |
| 17:46.56 | Titan8990_ | enouf, i doubt it, the only things i installed from backports was flash and nvidia drivers |
| 17:47.06 | Evet | lebanon deny |
| 17:47.12 | enouf | fxiny: you in #xmonad? |
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| 17:47.21 | irb111 | Enouf: i tried xrandr -s 1024x768 and it says "Size 1024x768 not found in available modes" |
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| 17:47.32 | enouf | Titan8990_: does /usr/bin/cvt exist? |
| 17:47.54 | Lanz | Are you guys out of ideas? |
| 17:47.58 | enouf | irb111: how about xdpyinfo and just xrandr output? |
| 17:48.07 | Titan8990_ | enouf, yep, im updating apt-file now to see where it came from |
| 17:48.14 | enouf | !madwifi |
| 17:48.14 | dpkg | [madwifi] the <non-free> driver for Atheros 802.11a/bg PCI wireless LAN chipsets. To install on Lenny or Etch, ask me about <madwifi-install> or follow the instructions at http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/ath_pci . NOT for AR5007UG (aka AR2624/AR5524) chipsets, ask about <zd1211rw>. http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/Support #madwifi on irc.freenode.net. Removed from Debian to resolve bug #519446; Squeeze users, ask me about <ath5k>. |
| 17:48.34 | Lanz | See, madwifi is gone |
| 17:48.40 | Lanz | ath5k and ath9k replace it |
| 17:48.43 | gravity | Yeah, we shipped cvt with lenny |
| 17:48.52 | enouf | Titan8990_: dpkg -L `which cvt` ? |
| 17:48.57 | Titan8990_ | madwifi is considered non free? |
| 17:48.59 | enouf | er -S |
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| 17:49.04 | fxiny | enouf: yes , i'm there |
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| 17:49.13 | enouf | fxiny: one sec then plz |
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| 17:49.18 | brbrbr | try newer kernel. like 2.6.31rc6, for example. if its not work/production machine |
| 17:49.26 | craigevil | fxiny: you can tell firefox not to prefetch eithr change it in about:config or add user_pref("network.prefetch-next", false); to your user.js |
| 17:49.50 | irb111 | Enouf: typed xdpyinfo and got some info |
| 17:49.50 | Titan8990_ | enouf, package /usr/bin/cvt is not installed.... |
| 17:50.04 | irb111 | Enouf: what is it that I should be looking for? |
| 17:50.28 | Titan8990_ | enouf, apt-file show xserver-xorg-core version 1.4.2-10.lenny2 |
| 17:51.30 | fxiny | craigevil: is tricky . using an old pre 3.5 profile like the one i use for iceweasel there is no dns-prefetch , i added it because i want all dns queries in my dnsmasq log file |
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| 17:52.21 | Titan8990_ | enouf, dpkg -S confirms xserver-xorg-core |
| 17:52.29 | enouf | Titan8990_: dpkg -S ... i had to correct myself |
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| 17:52.34 | enouf | aye |
| 17:52.49 | enouf | judd: versions xserver-xorg-core |
| 17:52.50 | judd | enouf: xserver-xorg-core -- etch: 2:1.1.1-21etch5 etch-security: 2:1.1.1-21etch5 lenny: 2:1.4.2-10.lenny1 squeeze: 2:1.4.2-11 sid: 2:1.6.3-1+b1 |
| 17:53.15 | Titan8990_ | enouf, he should have it |
| 17:53.19 | gravity | dpkg -L xserver-xorg-core | grep cvt |
| 17:53.19 | dpkg | ii xserver-xorg-core | grep cvt 1.7-4.2 gravity's private porn collection |
| 17:53.27 | gravity | Ha! |
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| 17:53.32 | abrotman | points at gravity and laughs |
| 17:53.44 | irb111 | Enouf: is there anything i can do via a GUI to change the resoltion settings in Xorg or do i have to manually modify the xorg.conf file |
| 17:53.45 | gravity | My porn is the X server? |
| 17:54.00 | gravity | And you all have my private stash on your machines? :-) |
| 17:54.08 | Titan8990_ | irb111, gnome as some kind of gui for it |
| 17:54.08 | fxiny | speak p-leet properly : pr0n , porbs and pnrge :P |
| 17:54.09 | enouf | irb111: what's the highest res your monitor can do? is it LCD, and where's your friggin manual? and egrep 'radeon|intel|nv|nvidia|fglrx' |
| 17:54.26 | ajavid | pnrge |
| 17:54.28 | ajavid | lol |
| 17:54.33 | enouf | irb111: what's the highest res your monitor can do? is it LCD, and where's your friggin manual? and egrep 'radeon|intel|nv|nvidia|fglrx|vesa' /var/log/Xorg.0.log' |
| 17:54.45 | enouf | crap |
| 17:54.49 | fxiny | ajavid: you did it ! |
| 17:54.59 | irb111 | Enouf: it's a 6 year old laptop..so i don't have the manual anymore |
| 17:55.06 | enouf | irb111: what's the highest res your monitor can do? is it LCD, and where's your friggin manual? and grep drv /var/log/Xorg.0.log' |
| 17:55.17 | tPl0ch | jIs it possible that LVM with MegaRaid on the latest lenny net-inst image install with grub is somehow not working? Is there a known issue about that? |
| 17:55.17 | enouf | irb111: go ONLINE! |
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| 17:55.36 | fxiny | ajavid: i think i've fixed something : try msg me a ping |
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| 17:56.00 | irb111 | Enough: i know i have nvidia |
| 17:56.03 | enouf | irb111: see man xorg.conf and see wiki.x.org |
| 17:56.10 | enouf | ... |
| 17:56.16 | enouf | then install nvidia-setttings |
| 17:56.20 | enouf | or someshit |
| 17:56.24 | Titan8990_ | tPl0ch, you may need to manually load the megaraid driver |
| 17:56.41 | sokuban | lenny autodetected a resolution too high for my computer, normally I'd go dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select the proper resolution from there, but on lenny it only talks about the keyboard, how would I remedy this? |
| 17:57.06 | enouf | gravity: haha |
| 17:57.08 | ghostman | I`m here, really! :) |
| 17:57.16 | Titan8990_ | sokuban, too high as in your monitor reports "frequency out of range" or similar? |
| 17:57.29 | enouf | gravity: i've shared mine too .. inadvertantly ;-) |
| 17:57.30 | fxiny | ajavid: you ! |
| 17:57.48 | sokuban | Titan8990_: Too high as in massive flickering, I do believe that the monitor can support it, but it isn't ideal |
| 17:57.50 | enouf | sokuban: it's autocinfig'd through HAL now |
| 17:57.58 | irb111 | Enouf: would adding additional resolution values to the xorg.conf file do any good? |
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| 17:58.19 | sokuban | enouf: Any way to tell hal the right resolution? |
| 17:58.24 | enouf | irb111: along with proper Vert/Hor refreshrates and other things |
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| 17:58.49 | enouf | sokuban: why bother - get a decent xorg.conf template and modify |
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| 17:59.06 | enouf | irb111: DisplaySize might be needed |
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| 17:59.40 | sokuban | enouf: so xorg.conf still works, just dpkg-reconfigure won't help with resolution stuff? (it scared me because it was completely empty) |
| 17:59.54 | tPl0ch | Titan8990_: It is a pretty old model |
| 17:59.59 | enouf | irb111: what happens with nvidia-settings? and does grep drv _show_ nvidia is used? |
| 18:00.08 | enouf | sokuban: right |
| 18:00.18 | enouf | xorg.conf still overrides autoconfig |
| 18:00.20 | gravity | Oh, this is nvida. |
| 18:00.23 | tPl0ch | Titan8990_: Where would I get the megaraid drivers for linux |
| 18:00.28 | enouf | yes, just found uot |
| 18:00.33 | sokuban | enouf: kay, thanks, I guess I'll have to do that |
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| 18:01.44 | enouf | gravity: whydoes the autoconfig resolutions change through almost every possible minor res, as opposed to larger changes, rather than just many aspect ratios PRIOR to actually changing res? |
| 18:01.44 | irb111 | Enouf: i am installing nvidia-settings now |
| 18:01.54 | enouf | gravity: i'm on sid with 'nv' |
| 18:01.59 | irb111 | Enouf: ok, installed |
| 18:02.10 | enouf | irb111: small 'e' |
| 18:02.18 | enouf | irb111: learn tab completion |
| 18:02.38 | enouf | it still highlights me |
| 18:02.43 | ajavid | fxiny, http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s02s02.html |
| 18:02.54 | irb111 | enouf: cool |
| 18:03.36 | enouf | gravity: 4$ lspci -nnk | grep VGA 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] [10de:0110] (rev b2) |
| 18:03.36 | ajavid | fxiny, man dpkg /states |
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| 18:04.22 | enouf | oh crap - thought i was on my 'xeon-enouf' .. heh, but still ... |
| 18:05.04 | enouf | gravity: actually ,on THIS pII, it's all good - i have a prior xorg.conf |
| 18:05.09 | zero-1 | quick question I have dhcpd running on a debian host, is there a way to know what computers on my network are connected through it? I mean get a host list |
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| 18:05.32 | irb111 | enouf: now that i installed it, what do i do next? |
| 18:05.33 | enouf | gravity: it's on my Dual CPU xeon that it's odd (autoconfig) |
| 18:05.41 | enouf | irb111: run it |
| 18:05.45 | fxiny | ajavid: why ? i do cli only |
| 18:05.46 | enouf | irb111: read the docs |
| 18:06.08 | gravity | enouf: It should actually try and change through various resolutions... |
| 18:06.15 | enouf | irb111: /usr/share/docs/nvidia* ; dpkg -L nvidia-settings | grep doc |
| 18:06.16 | gravity | s/should/shouldn't/ |
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| 18:06.25 | zero-1 | any hint? |
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| 18:06.46 | enouf | gravity: but it seems to go through varius aspect ratios prior - like 3 |
| 18:06.54 | enouf | gravity: it's an nv34 on the xeon |
| 18:07.08 | enouf | geforce 5500mx or something |
| 18:07.16 | fxiny | ajavid: I SEE the f* flags ! nice :) |
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| 18:07.25 | fxiny | saving it |
| 18:07.38 | macrobat | zero-1: maybe zenmap sees stuff? i'm guessing :) |
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| 18:08.08 | zero-1 | isn't that going to ping scan the network? |
| 18:08.20 | enouf | gravity: cani grab what it actually is changing toowithout parsing say xrandr,each switch of ctrl-alt-+\- ? |
| 18:08.26 | macrobat | yes |
| 18:08.28 | enouf | and reportbug it? |
| 18:09.30 | fxiny | zero-1: iptstate ? |
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| 18:09.48 | ajavid | fxiny, man aptitude line 132 |
| 18:09.55 | gravity | enouf: Your logfile should have what it's doing |
| 18:09.59 | gravity | enouf: And yeah, reportbug it |
| 18:10.03 | jhutchins | Is there some way to see how much ram your video card has? |
| 18:10.12 | abrotman | the X log has it |
| 18:10.42 | gravity | Man, it's X madness in here today |
| 18:10.43 | enouf | gravity: thanks - will do |
| 18:10.59 | zero-1 | but isnt that going to show everything even computers with static IPs? |
| 18:11.08 | abrotman | gravity: you bring out all the crazies |
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| 18:11.12 | gravity | :-( |
| 18:11.14 | enouf | jhutchins: i try tuse lspci -vvv and cat /proc/mtrr .. however ... |
| 18:11.18 | fxiny | ajavid: so ? try a msg , just ping , so i can see if it passes through ! |
| 18:11.35 | zero-1 | it would be perfect if I could get a list of host that got an ip address from the dhcp server |
| 18:11.41 | ajavid | fxiny, huh? |
| 18:11.48 | wildc4rd | evening all |
| 18:11.50 | ajavid | oh |
| 18:12.00 | ajavid | did you register your nickname finally |
| 18:12.00 | fxiny | ajavid: PONG |
| 18:12.06 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:12.06 | enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:12.13 | ajavid | 01:12 [freenode] -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- fxiny is not registered. |
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| 18:12.19 | Akuw | video never start http://www.joomlaholic.com/index.php?option=com_seyret&Itemid=3 |
| 18:12.19 | fxiny | yes |
| 18:12.22 | enouf | is wrong for a 64MB card ... ugh |
| 18:12.34 | enouf | is Aperture config'd in tghat? |
| 18:13.08 | enouf | $ cat /proc/mtrr |
| 18:13.09 | enouf | reg00: base=0x000000000 ( 0MB), size= 512MB, count=1: write-back |
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| 18:13.13 | enouf | is wrong as well |
| 18:13.21 | lafrance | anyone bored and like to help in pm set up eggdrop on my box ? |
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| 18:13.56 | enouf | ~$ grep 64M /var/log/Xorg.0.log GeForce4 440 Go 64M, Quadro NVS, Quadro4 500 GoGL, GeForce FX 5500, GeForce FX 5100, GeForce FX Go5200 32M/64M |
| 18:14.00 | niko | there is #supybot if you like python |
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| 18:14.26 | enouf | fucked up thing is; my geforce FX 5500 on the xeon has 128M |
| 18:14.34 | fxiny | only ? |
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| 18:15.40 | fxiny | enouf: xeon-double beast ? |
| 18:15.57 | enouf | shit; ~$ s hwinfo --gfxcard |
| 18:16.07 | enouf | is cryptic too - reads mtrr |
| 18:16.27 | enouf | fxiny: yep ;-) 2x CPUs, MP Xeon 1.7G |
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| 18:17.44 | SuperMiguel | in fluxbox whats the best way to get transparency working? |
| 18:18.43 | NoFX_SBC | hello! i need install xen-linux-system-2.6.18-6-xen-amd64 on lenny. the best way is add deb-src etch to file sources.list and run apt-get build-dep xen-linux-system-2.6.18-6-xen-amd64 |
| 18:18.59 | NoFX_SBC | ? |
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| 18:19.44 | ukmnh | is there a pdf reader that will allows one to change the default background color of the display from white to something else? |
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| 18:22.15 | jhutchins | ukmnh: No, that's a part of the actual PDF. Most people just use white when they're creating them, they're thinking of paper. |
| 18:22.44 | abrotman | NoFX_SBC: that's an etch kernel .. why would you want that? |
| 18:22.59 | pipeline | ukmnh: use a pdf to html converter and change it that way |
| 18:22.59 | fxiny | ajavid: man aptitude 132 reads "vim=1.2.3.broken-4" , are you trying to start a war ? :P |
| 18:23.00 | irb111 | enouf: ok i followed the directions here http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#ConfigureXtousethenvidiadriver under the section "Install the NVIDIA X driver and user-space libraries" |
| 18:23.37 | irb111 | enouf: i restarted invoke-rc.d gdm restart and restarted x |
| 18:23.44 | NoFX_SBC | abrotman because xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 have some bugs with xen |
| 18:24.09 | irb111 | enouf: now I get 'Fatal Server Error: no screens found |
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| 18:25.35 | NoFX_SBC | abrotman and i am running lenny... |
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| 18:26.51 | NoFX_SBC | abrotman 2.6.18 is known because of your stability when running xen |
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| 18:30.57 | Elive_user96 | hola necesito ayuda con una tarjeta cirrus logic cs 4297a usando alsa , al reproducir cualquier sonido queda un zumbido permanente y no se elimina alguien podria aydarme |
| 18:31.24 | karme | Elive_user96: maybe #debian-es ? |
| 18:31.35 | Elive_user96 | elive debian etch |
| 18:32.08 | ukmnh | jhutchins, pipeline: thanks, will look into converting it to html |
| 18:32.39 | Elive_user96 | alguna idea ? |
| 18:32.51 | karme | Elive_user96: #debian is a english speaking channel, if you prefer spanish you want to join #debian-es |
| 18:32.57 | Bushmills | Elive_user96: elive is not debian |
| 18:33.16 | Elive_user96 | elive its debian whit enlightenment |
| 18:33.31 | fxiny | reaches for the curry |
| 18:33.37 | Bushmills | it is not debian. it is "based on debian" |
| 18:33.48 | Elive_user96 | ok sorry.. |
| 18:34.21 | Bushmills | n elive support group will be better able to help |
| 18:34.35 | Elive_user96 | mmm its the problem ... |
| 18:34.53 | Elive_user96 | the numbers of user its 18 |
| 18:35.14 | Bushmills | try #ubuntu - that's also debian based |
| 18:35.25 | digitaljhelms | i'm having a threading problem with python that exists in 2.5.1 and 2.5.2 but was fixed in 2.6.x, however all of the servers in my cluster are running stable/lenny which locked python at 2.5.2. i found python 2.6 in the experimental distribution, however adding that source to my sources.list gives me way more than i need -- all i want is to upgrade python, not the other 500+ packages experimental gives me. is there a better way to |
| 18:35.25 | digitaljhelms | achieve what i'm trying to do? |
| 18:35.54 | Elive_user96 | mmm the problem its ALSA not distro |
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| 18:36.10 | Bushmills | try #alsa |
| 18:36.46 | Elive_user96 | yes ALSA its service for audio |
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| 18:38.01 | Elive_user96 | The problem is that it produces a noise |
| 18:38.22 | Elive_user96 | after play any sound |
| 18:38.29 | MikeH | If I want to go from lenny to squeeze, is it just a case of changing sources.list, apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 18:38.52 | abrotman | Elive_user96: we do not support elive here, please go to the #elive channel for support |
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| 18:39.09 | Elive_user96 | thanks . |
| 18:39.14 | Elive_user96 | good bye |
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| 18:43.08 | enouf | digitaljhelms: why on earth would you not use pinning? |
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| 18:43.26 | enouf | digitaljhelms: /msg dpkg pinning |
| 18:43.31 | digitaljhelms | enouf: never have, don't know how |
| 18:43.44 | enouf | or ..backport it |
| 18:44.22 | enouf | digitaljhelms: you have to admit, 500 is way better than 20,000 though :-p |
| 18:44.33 | digitaljhelms | enouf: the 2.6 package didn't show up in backports |
| 18:44.43 | enouf | unless we're talking USD! ;-P |
| 18:44.58 | enouf | digitaljhelms: well, backport it yourself ;-) |
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| 18:45.01 | digitaljhelms | enouf: and dpkg states, "If you use stable, pinning won't help you from messing up the system... use <backports> instead." |
| 18:45.04 | enouf | and contribute |
| 18:45.13 | enouf | yes |
| 18:45.20 | digitaljhelms | enouf: backport it myself? |
| 18:45.25 | enouf | yes |
| 18:45.33 | k0opa | hey, I have shell account, but I would like to deny all access to my home folder from other users |
| 18:45.34 | enouf | or .. try |
| 18:45.38 | digitaljhelms | enouf: (not up to snuff on pinning or backports, bear with me) |
| 18:45.41 | k0opa | what is right chmod? |
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| 18:45.56 | enouf | k0opa: no no no |
| 18:45.58 | fxiny | 700 ? |
| 18:46.02 | k0opa | O_o |
| 18:46.05 | k0opa | eeerm |
| 18:46.07 | k0opa | what no? |
| 18:46.16 | enouf | k0opa: no jailing other users |
| 18:46.25 | k0opa | I dont want that they see my files :( |
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| 18:46.36 | Akuw | iceweasel can't play this http://www.joomlaholic.com/index.php?option=com_seyret&Itemid=3 |
| 18:46.56 | enouf | without incorporating VMs, or grsecurity, or something special kernel |
| 18:47.03 | fxiny | i don't think you can chmod your home |
| 18:47.07 | enouf | k0opa: encrypt them |
| 18:47.11 | k0opa | okey |
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| 18:47.21 | k0opa | but is this really so that I can't secure my home folder? |
| 18:47.23 | enouf | fxiny: sure you can ;-) just does nothing ;-) |
| 18:47.26 | k0opa | like read write only for me |
| 18:47.26 | fxiny | k0opa: is your box ? |
| 18:47.32 | k0opa | nope |
| 18:47.36 | k0opa | no roots for me |
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| 18:47.51 | enouf | k0opa: are you a GUIperson? |
| 18:47.56 | k0opa | GUI ? O_O |
| 18:47.57 | k0opa | no |
| 18:47.57 | enouf | ugh |
| 18:47.58 | k0opa | shell |
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| 18:48.27 | enouf | well, no root might making encryptiontough |
| 18:48.48 | fxiny | enouf: i played with ssh chroot built in just yesterday |
| 18:48.52 | enouf | iwas thinking truecrypt for wintendo weenies ;-) |
| 18:48.52 | k0opa | but can I set that if someone cd to my dir so that the ls would not show files? |
| 18:48.59 | k0opa | I dont need crypting |
| 18:49.02 | enouf | using GNOME of KDE |
| 18:49.08 | enouf | yes ..yes youdo |
| 18:49.22 | enouf | k0opa: what about /tmp? |
| 18:49.40 | enouf | noticwe it's 1777 |
| 18:49.56 | k0opa | enouf: O_O |
| 18:49.57 | k0opa | tmp |
| 18:49.59 | k0opa | wtf |
| 18:50.00 | enouf | stat /tmp |
| 18:50.14 | justin | k0opa: uhh, so chmod og= ~ |
| 18:50.16 | ghostman | .ape file returns to sender? ;) |
| 18:50.20 | enouf | k0opa: you trust to root/sudo users? |
| 18:50.30 | k0opa | I trust |
| 18:50.38 | k0opa | I dont store important shit on this shell |
| 18:50.42 | enouf | you suck ;-) |
| 18:50.43 | k0opa | just random notes/todo lists |
| 18:50.52 | enouf | i never trust those in power ;-) |
| 18:50.57 | k0opa | yaa... |
| 18:51.08 | enouf | the peons, i don't care about |
| 18:51.15 | k0opa | but I get this shell for free and I dont have lots of money for my own server :) |
| 18:51.20 | k0opa | enouf: I did chmod 700 . |
| 18:51.22 | enouf | the peons are my sheeple ;-) |
| 18:51.26 | k0opa | and I can still access my file |
| 18:51.27 | k0opa | *s |
| 18:51.33 | k0opa | can other ppl's do it now? |
| 18:51.34 | fxiny | under my feet dinosaurus and kings :P |
| 18:51.36 | k0opa | (expect root) |
| 18:51.47 | enouf | k |
| 18:52.08 | k0opa | so is my files secured with that chmod? |
| 18:52.22 | fxiny | no |
| 18:52.24 | enouf | k0opa: the owner can always ttysnoop your butt if you ssh in |
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| 18:52.30 | ghostman | Sorry, forgot about talking about mind crap. |
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| 18:52.52 | fxiny | secure from who ? |
| 18:53.01 | k0opa | enouf: I am not affaird of the owner, I am just affaird of the other random ppl using this vps |
| 18:53.10 | enouf | fxiny: talk to me about openbsd in that other channel |
| 18:53.22 | k0opa | okey now these files looks nicer... |
| 18:53.32 | k0opa | chmod 700 ~/* |
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| 18:53.46 | k0opa | this is weird... I can access other ppl's files |
| 18:53.48 | enouf | k0opa: so, supppose the wner allows another user some sudo privs? |
| 18:53.52 | k0opa | and even edit some of them |
| 18:54.04 | k0opa | enouf: nobody has sudos on this thing than the owner |
| 18:54.22 | enouf | the owner desn't need sudo |
| 18:54.28 | k0opa | ya |
| 18:54.31 | k0opa | so nobody has sudos |
| 18:54.41 | fxiny | enouf: ok |
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| 18:55.02 | dellthinker | Hi all, how would i go about reloading all services with out having to reboot? |
| 18:55.04 | k0opa | the security of this shell looks pretty shitty... |
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| 18:56.04 | abrotman | dellthinker: you can re-init the runlevel |
| 18:56.06 | enouf | k0opa: you are sure?you cannot check |
| 18:56.13 | enouf | youare a lwly user |
| 18:56.26 | k0opa | enouf: If I can edit other ppls irssi's config files... |
| 18:56.31 | dellthinker | abrotman: example ? |
| 18:56.35 | k0opa | I can steal their auth's etc |
| 18:56.37 | abrotman | man init ? |
| 18:56.45 | enouf | k0opa: erm, that's a DEAD giveaway;-) |
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| 18:56.52 | k0opa | O_O |
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| 18:57.59 | enouf | Evet: telinit |
| 18:58.08 | enouf | erm dellthinker |
| 18:58.08 | dellthinker | Ugh, does anyone else know the syntax to 're-hit' the run level? |
| 18:58.17 | enouf | what? |
| 18:58.20 | dellthinker | enouf: ? |
| 18:58.26 | Evet | enouf, easter egg |
| 18:58.28 | enouf | what?!! |
| 18:58.36 | dellthinker | What?!?! O_o |
| 18:58.41 | enouf | rehit? |
| 18:58.56 | dellthinker | Im just rephrasing what that guy abrotman said |
| 18:59.01 | brbrbr | he mean "re-init" i guess |
| 18:59.02 | enouf | dellthinker: shall i smack the asshat upside the head nowq? |
| 18:59.19 | enouf | dellthinker: no, you are not |
| 18:59.24 | dellthinker | enouf: sure if you like hollow points ;o) |
| 18:59.53 | abrotman | looks at enouf |
| 19:00.09 | abrotman | dellthinker: the init man page tells you how to do this |
| 19:00.13 | dellthinker | Why must i always have to resort to violence |
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| 19:00.27 | dellthinker | I just wanna restart my services with out a reboot |
| 19:00.46 | abrotman | all of them or a single one ? |
| 19:00.49 | enouf | dellthinker: keyboard bashing is consoling and leads to solitude ;-) |
| 19:00.53 | dellthinker | abrotman: all |
| 19:01.12 | ghostman | me is single! |
| 19:01.16 | dellthinker | enouf: you should take some of your own advice, it could save your life one day |
| 19:01.21 | fxiny | enouf: solitude and blindness ;) |
| 19:01.34 | enouf | dellthinker: look at /msg dpkg rcconf ;howver; a script like run-parts might be useful |
| 19:01.36 | brbrbr | quick reboot with kexec, maybe ;) |
| 19:01.55 | abrotman | dellthinker: did you read `man init` yet ? |
| 19:02.03 | dellthinker | abrotman: im scrolling ffs |
| 19:02.06 | enouf | dellthinker: i have 9 lives; and i've used 8, don't mess with me ;-) |
| 19:02.09 | dellthinker | I dont have time for that |
| 19:02.16 | enouf | haha |
| 19:02.28 | enouf | abrotman: 'no time' .. hehe |
| 19:02.33 | Evet | nice |
| 19:02.36 | dellthinker | enouf: thats facinating *not* |
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| 19:02.56 | enouf | but WE have the time FOR You! |
| 19:03.20 | enouf | dellthinker: hw about you reload Vista ;-) |
| 19:03.31 | dellthinker | Listen geekazoid, i just wanted to know _one_ simple fucken thing |
| 19:03.31 | abrotman | how about if enouf and dellthinker just /ignore each other |
| 19:03.37 | abrotman | dellthinker: stop right there |
| 19:03.58 | enouf | abrotman: i have no probs - i'm ok - but if you really think i should, i will |
| 19:04.01 | dellthinker | abrotman: I have no interest in that fag dude, im trying to figure this out before my boss shits a brick |
| 19:04.16 | abrotman | dellthinker: stop already .. just put him on ignore before you get yourself in trouble |
| 19:04.16 | enouf | abrotman: thanks |
| 19:04.33 | dellthinker | .... trouble -_- |
| 19:04.36 | dellthinker | Whatever |
| 19:04.42 | enouf | dellthinker: yu have no idea ... |
| 19:04.44 | dellthinker | Can you give me a hint at least? |
| 19:04.44 | fxiny | how did you call my boyfriend ? |
| 19:04.54 | enouf | fxiny: :-) |
| 19:04.58 | fxiny | enouf: ;)) |
| 19:06.08 | enouf | fxiny: i can't wait to make my Boss shit-a-brick ... i'll then have to show her/him how to drop a Boa ;-) |
| 19:06.24 | abrotman | dellthinker: or you could `for i in $(ls /etc/rc2.d/); do $i restart ; done` maybe ? |
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| 19:07.02 | dellthinker | Maybe a .c |
| 19:07.04 | enouf | abrotman: unfortunately, the rcS.d/ scripts won' be rerun |
| 19:07.09 | enouf | as you know |
| 19:07.10 | dellthinker | But its fine, i already figured it out |
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| 19:07.14 | fxiny | enouf: a brick ? must be a boa constrUctor then |
| 19:07.31 | abrotman | enouf: i don't think he asked that .. but okay |
| 19:07.35 | enouf | abrotman: one needs to dropto runlevel1 at the least |
| 19:07.40 | enouf | ok |
| 19:07.48 | ghostman | Won`t we all get together, in the age of woodstock? ;) |
| 19:08.02 | enouf | fxiny: i've yet to see a rectangular Boa ;-) |
| 19:08.16 | dellthinker | abrotman: you wouldnt happen to know how to use SWAT do you? |
| 19:08.22 | abrotman | eh .. no |
| 19:08.23 | enouf | fxiny: with clay-baked edges ;-) |
| 19:08.41 | enouf | cxonsider SLAY |
| 19:08.48 | abrotman | sends enouf and fxiny to play in their own channel |
| 19:09.00 | fxiny | yes we have a chan |
| 19:09.12 | fxiny | in OFTC |
| 19:09.36 | enouf | fxiny: i have to go -- see ya over there lateer - stop signing off!@ |
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| 19:09.56 | fxiny | enouf: mee to . a nice documentary starting |
| 19:10.17 | fxiny | enouf: keep an eye to amphi |
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| 19:10.27 | fxiny | we care |
| 19:10.36 | enouf | fxiny: ofcourse |
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| 19:16.11 | ghostman | shit, your`re my bests! ;) |
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| 19:17.21 | Evet | ö |
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| 19:22.01 | vIkSiT | hi all |
| 19:22.03 | vIkSiT | whats the best method to ensure that all new software installed by apt-get goes into a custom directory (on a different partition)? |
| 19:22.17 | ghostman | Who wants to checkout 78.43.171.29 |
| 19:23.24 | justin | vIkSiT: the best way is to not want to do something like that |
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| 19:24.09 | vIkSiT | justin, heh. Well, Ive got a lenny image on amazon EC2. Issue is that if I ever crash the instance, I wanted all custom s/w, libs etc to be on my persistent storage partition |
| 19:24.40 | vIkSiT | I'd rather not have to install things by hand (nor repeat all my apt-gets using a script) if i ever need to recover.. |
| 19:24.43 | pipeline | vIkSiT: simpler: install debconf-utils and use debconf-get-selections and dpkg --get-selections to back up yoru package lists and confgig choices |
| 19:25.05 | vIkSiT | pipeline, ah |
| 19:25.32 | pipeline | vIkSiT: at some future date, you can pipe the output of dpkg --get-selections to dpkg --set-selections, then run apt-get dselect-upgrade. |
| 19:26.04 | pipeline | vIkSiT: of course, before you do that, you will need to pipe the output of debconf-get-selections into debconf-set-selections, because you need the debconf keys to be present BEFORE you re-install all the packages, or else you will go gcrazy. |
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| 19:26.54 | vIkSiT | pipeline, ah, I think that was a typo up there when you mentioned a debconf-get-selections right? |
| 19:27.03 | pipeline | vIkSiT: nope |
| 19:27.12 | vIkSiT | hmm, I can't find a "get-selections" - only set |
| 19:27.21 | pipeline | vIkSiT: debconf-utils includes those tools. They're named to resemble the dpkg command switches. |
| 19:27.51 | vIkSiT | hrm weird, can't find debconf-utils in apt-cache either |
| 19:28.17 | abrotman | judd: info debconf-utils |
| 19:28.18 | judd | abrotman: debconf-utils (devel): is optional; Version: 1.5.24; Size: 38.9k; Installed: 164k -- debconf utilities |
| 19:29.05 | vIkSiT | ah, util(s*) |
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| 19:30.49 | vIkSiT | gotca |
| 19:30.58 | vIkSiT | pipeline, thanks for the info, I'll use that. |
| 19:31.43 | humbolt | what the heck is ethernet bonding? |
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| 19:32.29 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:32.44 | o2T7 | How can I remove a package in pF status, which gives me the error "subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" when running dpkg -r against it? |
| 19:32.58 | abrotman | which package? |
| 19:33.08 | o2T7 | pips-snx100 |
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| 19:33.23 | o2T7 | for a f**** epson |
| 19:33.37 | abrotman | why does it fail to reomve? |
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| 19:34.00 | dellthinker | lol |
| 19:34.09 | o2T7 | unmet dependencies on pips-common (>= 3.3.0) |
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| 19:36.29 | o2T7 | Do you think that it is safe to remove it manually from /var/lib/dpkg/info/ ? |
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| 19:37.31 | dutchfish | humbolt, bonding is making 2 nics talk as one virtual nic to a switch (a bond, a trunk whatever) |
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| 19:37.54 | dutchfish | humbolt, it can be more then 2 |
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| 19:38.16 | humbolt | dutchfish: reading up on it already |
| 19:38.26 | humbolt | tnx |
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| 19:41.48 | o2T7 | Well renaming the pre-remove script worked for me (I hope I did not break anything with this) |
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| 19:46.54 | ghostman | ok |
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| 19:57.54 | retro_neo | I am having weird troubles with a server : I got an error during a rooting 'safe-upgrade' (it was upgrading apt-tools) and then apt was unusable. suspecting a filesystem problem (especially when the machine wouldn't come back after reboot), I booted from a livecd, and ran fsck, which fixed a bunch of errors (orphaned inodes, etc), but after rebooting my system it happens again : http://pastebin.com/m44807e45 |
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| 19:58.11 | retro_neo | *routine |
| 19:59.01 | Tuxist | fsck.ext3 /dev/blub |
| 19:59.13 | Tuxist | in safe mode |
| 19:59.25 | retro_neo | Tuxist: from a live CD ? |
| 19:59.52 | Tuxist | your bootgrub loader have to options use the second |
| 19:59.54 | Titan8990_ | Tuxist, i think he said he already did that |
| 20:00.01 | Tuxist | od |
| 20:00.08 | Titan8990_ | retro_neo, restore from from your most recent backup |
| 20:00.25 | Tuxist | you are in busybox ? |
| 20:00.42 | Tuxist | don't strg +d |
| 20:00.45 | Tuxist | on boot |
| 20:00.57 | Titan8990_ | yeah, i was about to say... read-only filesystem is usually bb |
| 20:01.11 | Tuxist | use busy box for fsck |
| 20:01.24 | Tuxist | what#s your filesystem ? |
| 20:01.27 | Tuxist | ext3 ? |
| 20:01.33 | retro_neo | Tuxist: its a reote box, I only have acess via a netbooted ubuntu 8.04"livecd" |
| 20:01.43 | Tuxist | thats ok |
| 20:01.51 | retro_neo | Tuxist: ext3 |
| 20:02.01 | Tuxist | whats your device name ? |
| 20:02.03 | retro_neo | you want the log of my fsck? |
| 20:02.07 | Tuxist | sda1 ? |
| 20:02.11 | retro_neo | /dev/sda3 |
| 20:02.23 | Tuxist | fsck.ext3 /dev/sda3 |
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| 20:02.31 | Tuxist | that woud fix it |
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| 20:02.56 | retro_neo | is there a difference between fsck.ext3 /dev/sda3 and fsck /dev/sda3 ? |
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| 20:03.20 | Tuxist | fsck need operant for uses filesystem |
| 20:03.33 | retro_neo | Tuxist: thanks will try that |
| 20:03.44 | Evet | how to multitask? |
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| 20:04.39 | Tuxist | Evet: what you mean ? |
| 20:05.05 | Titan8990_ | Tuxist, it won't attempt to detect filesystem like mount does? |
| 20:05.05 | Evet | Tuxist, under non-graphical ui |
| 20:05.22 | Tuxist | evet: you sreen |
| 20:05.24 | Titan8990_ | Evet, ctrl+alt+F1-4 |
| 20:05.25 | Tuxist | screen |
| 20:05.30 | Titan8990_ | Evet, or screen... |
| 20:05.47 | Evet | screen? |
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| 20:06.07 | Tuxist | umount /dev/sda3 |
| 20:06.07 | Titan8990_ | Evet, aptitude install screen |
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| 20:06.11 | Titan8990_ | Evet, man screen |
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| 20:06.36 | Tuxist | to create a screen |
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| 20:06.44 | Tuxist | to join a screen -r |
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| 20:07.43 | Tuxist | Titan8990_: i need xour dmesg |
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| 20:08.03 | Titan8990_ | Tuxist, my dmesg? |
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| 20:08.17 | Tuxist | put in console dmesg |
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| 20:08.28 | SuperMiguel | whats the best program to add true transparency to fluxbox? |
| 20:08.39 | Tuxist | dmesg | grep sd |
| 20:08.41 | Evet | oh, thank you tuxcrafter, Titan8990 |
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| 20:08.54 | Martin_vW | hello. Does a newly installed lenny now use dash as /bin/sh? I'm asking because I'm just working on server that was recently upgraded from etch to lenny, and it's still using bash as /bin/sh. |
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| 20:10.09 | Tuxist | /bin/bash ;-9 |
| 20:10.12 | Tuxist | ;-9 |
| 20:10.26 | Tuxist | #!/bin/bash |
| 20:10.37 | Tuxist | on the top of the script |
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| 20:10.55 | karme | Martin_vW: lenny not by default afair - only if you install dash you are asked - but i am not sure |
| 20:11.41 | Tuxist | Titan8990_: yes your dmesg |
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| 20:12.07 | karme | Martin_vW: it is a release goal for squeeze i think: http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090730 |
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| 20:12.26 | Martin_vW | karme: ah, ok |
| 20:13.11 | Titan8990_ | Tuxist, uhh, sure, but why? |
| 20:13.12 | Martin_vW | I was only wondering why some of our scripts weren't breaking yet, because I just discovered that my codevelopers have introduced new bashisms into /bin/sh shell scripts ^^ |
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| 20:14.05 | Tuxist | than i can see what wrong with your filesystem |
| 20:14.13 | Titan8990_ | Tuxist, wrong person |
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| 20:14.34 | Tuxist | grep | sd |
| 20:14.38 | Tuxist | not more |
| 20:14.46 | Titan8990_ | Tuxist, i was helping the same person... im running gentoo atm and doubt you want to see my dmesg |
| 20:15.08 | Tuxist | dmesg | grep sd |
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| 20:15.25 | Tuxist | so i got only filesystem related things |
| 20:15.39 | tuxcrafter | Evet: tick error :D |
| 20:15.48 | tuxcrafter | /tick/nick/ |
| 20:16.23 | Titan8990_ | Tuxist, alright... but im trying to tell you that i was never at any point in time today having any issues |
| 20:16.29 | Titan8990_ | Tuxist, your talking to the wrong person |
| 20:16.48 | Tuxist | ok |
| 20:17.01 | Titan8990_ | Tuxist, your looking for retro_neo |
| 20:17.05 | Tuxist | try to mount your ext3 as an ext2 system |
| 20:17.09 | Tuxist | ok |
| 20:17.51 | Tuxist | i'am have not many hours to sleep at the moment |
| 20:17.54 | Tuxist | ;-) |
| 20:17.58 | Titan8990_ | happens |
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| 20:18.05 | retro_neo | Tuxist: well I ran fsck a 3rd time, and it seems to be fine now :) |
| 20:18.06 | Tuxist | retro_neo try dmesg | grep sd |
| 20:18.19 | Tuxist | ok |
| 20:18.27 | Tuxist | thats fine |
| 20:19.04 | retro_neo | should I be fearing a HD failure though? |
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| 20:20.25 | Tuxist | retro_neo i think it was hard reboot or mem failure |
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| 20:21.51 | sigh-thistinks | hello - i am not a linux admin nor do I know much about linux (just basic stuff). I have a debian server that is running on old hardware I would like to move to a virtual machine or something. |
| 20:21.52 | Titan8990_ | retro_neo, you should make a fresh backup regardless |
| 20:21.58 | retro_neo | Tuxist: possible, I've often hard rebooted it due to downtimes |
| 20:22.20 | sigh-thistinks | I thought SSH wasn't running so I tried to install it but I get a message saying it is installed. I cannot telnet to port 22. |
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| 20:22.29 | Tuxist | you can use memtester to check memory on demand |
| 20:22.33 | Titan8990_ | sigh-thistinks, ssh != telnet |
| 20:22.45 | dfinn | I'm looking to do some simple virtualization on a pretty basic squeeze box. I'm going to install win7. What's the best/easiest way to accomplish this? |
| 20:22.46 | Titan8990_ | sigh-thistinks, try using ssh to connect to sshd.... |
| 20:22.54 | sigh-thistinks | When I do an iptables --list I get a message saying i get iptables v1.2.6a: can't initalize iptables table 'filter': iptables who? (do you need to insmod?) |
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| 20:22.56 | dfinn | it looks like my procs do have support for virtualization |
| 20:23.09 | retro_neo | Titan8990_> of course - btw, what would you recommend for ghosting the root partition? |
| 20:23.10 | Tuxist | virtualbox |
| 20:23.20 | sigh-thistinks | Titan8990 - shouldn't i be able to connect on port 22? |
| 20:23.29 | Tuxist | http://www.virtualbox.org/ |
| 20:23.30 | Titan8990_ | retro_neo, i use rsync and sometimes tar for backup |
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| 20:23.41 | Titan8990_ | sigh-thistinks, if you want to know if its open, nmap scan it |
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| 20:23.59 | sigh-thistinks | one moment. |
| 20:24.17 | Tuxist | rsync for data dd for system |
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| 20:24.26 | retro_neo | Titan8990_> yeah I backup my data that way too, but what about the system (custom compilations, configs, etc - it amounts to days of work!) |
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| 20:24.43 | Titan8990_ | Tuxist, i have to disagree... dd if going from disc to disc but not from disc -> image |
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| 20:25.01 | sigh-thistinks | Titan8990 - i do not see it open on an nmap scan |
| 20:25.09 | Titan8990_ | retro_neo, you can make / backups with rsync that can be restored on a fresh disc |
| 20:25.14 | tnks | I'm a bit confused why the pre-compiled 2.6.30 kernel for Debian doesn't have CONFIG_PROC_ACPI_EVENT configured (acpid still needs the deprecated interface) |
| 20:25.16 | Titan8990_ | retro_neo, only requiring a grub reinstall |
| 20:25.19 | Tuxist | only for system in failure for fast rebuild |
| 20:25.24 | Tuxist | ;-) |
| 20:25.30 | Titan8990_ | sigh-thistinks, nmap -sS -p22 <hostname> |
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| 20:25.54 | Tuxist | in combination with pxe very nice |
| 20:26.05 | tnks | just feels weird to have to compile the kernel just for that one measily option. |
| 20:26.10 | Tuxist | than rsync to get old dara |
| 20:26.19 | sigh-thistinks | closed |
| 20:26.19 | Tuxist | or new ;-) |
| 20:26.31 | Titan8990_ | sigh-thistinks, are you sure ssh is running? /etc/init.d/ssh status |
| 20:26.44 | retro_neo | Titan8990_> yeah I have done that, but it wasn't easy, and I don't see myself doing it on a remote box |
| 20:26.51 | sigh-thistinks | will look |
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| 20:27.06 | Titan8990_ | retro_neo, rsync is perfect for remote backup/recovery |
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| 20:27.14 | Titan8990_ | retro_neo, you can do it over ssh or use the rsync daemon |
| 20:27.30 | Tuxist | you need a script on seperate maschine ;-) |
| 20:27.42 | unnamedkiller | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.49 | ajatollah | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.52 | Tuxist | than you xan use ubuntu to get for example by http |
| 20:27.55 | sigh-thistinks | it says: OpenBSD Secure Shell server is not in use (/etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run) |
| 20:27.56 | unnamedkiller | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.10 | unnamedkiller | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.24 | unnamedkiller | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.28 | sigh-thistinks | c'mon. |
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| 20:28.35 | sigh-thistinks | you suck unnamedkiller. |
| 20:28.38 | unnamedkiller | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.52 | unnamedkiller | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:29.05 | unnamedkiller | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:30.22 | Titan8990_ | !ops unnamedkiller recommend ban |
| 20:30.22 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel: titan8990_ complains about: unnamedkiller recommend ban |
| 20:30.45 | abrotman | gone |
| 20:31.02 | Titan8990_ | oh, i saw him leave but i didn't see the ban |
| 20:31.08 | Titan8990_ | didn't want him coming back |
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| 20:31.26 | sigh-thistinks | Titan8990, not sure if you saw my last message |
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| 20:31.28 | sigh-thistinks | it says: OpenBSD Secure Shell server is not in use (/etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run) |
| 20:31.45 | Titan8990_ | sigh-thistinks, /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 20:32.09 | Lanz | Hi everyone. |
| 20:32.18 | sigh-thistinks | Titan8990 - same message |
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| 20:32.21 | humbolt | Anybody ever heard of RDAC multipath? |
| 20:32.30 | Lanz | How can I get a kernel module to load on boot with a specific option on it? |
| 20:32.36 | Lanz | Like, "modprobe ath9k btcoex_enable=1" |
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| 20:32.51 | Titan8990_ | sigh-thistinks, how did you install the ssh daemon? |
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| 20:32.51 | Lanz | I need the "btcoex_enable=1" to happen on boot |
| 20:33.11 | unitypunk_ | wow |
| 20:33.17 | ghostman | I`m using gentoo without #gentoo #gentoo.de and #gentoo-kde. How is it possible? :) |
| 20:33.19 | unitypunk_ | did that guy really come in here and post cp? |
| 20:33.24 | unitypunk_ | what a sick puppy. |
| 20:33.41 | unitypunk_ | he probably had EFnet and freenode confused lol |
| 20:33.43 | Titan8990_ | ghostman, #gentoo is on freenode, what do you mean? |
| 20:33.50 | dutchfish | Lanz, http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-modules.html |
| 20:33.57 | sigh-thistinks | Titan8990 - i didn't, supposedly it's already installed (so says apt when i go to apt-get install ssh) |
| 20:33.58 | Lanz | Thanks dutchfish |
| 20:34.00 | Titan8990_ | unitypunk_, it was more than likely some vulnerability hosted on that link |
| 20:34.08 | sigh-thistinks | i've never touched this box before and i'm not a really big linux guy. |
| 20:34.14 | Titan8990_ | sigh-thistinks, thats only the client, not the server |
| 20:34.20 | Titan8990_ | sigh-thistinks, and why are you doing so now? |
| 20:34.21 | sigh-thistinks | needs to get it off of this hardware though |
| 20:34.24 | unitypunk_ | eh. |
| 20:34.30 | sigh-thistinks | the fans on this stand alone headless white box are dying |
| 20:34.34 | sigh-thistinks | it's very old |
| 20:34.34 | unitypunk_ | why would you try and lure people in with childporn. |
| 20:34.41 | sigh-thistinks | so i want to move it to a virtual machine |
| 20:34.41 | unitypunk_ | you'd think that would turn people away. |
| 20:34.49 | Titan8990_ | sigh-thistinks, aptitude install openssh-server |
| 20:34.51 | sigh-thistinks | i don't have a backup |
| 20:34.52 | sigh-thistinks | k |
| 20:34.54 | sigh-thistinks | one second! |
| 20:35.00 | unitypunk_ | i'd be much more likely to click on annakornakova nude then that. |
| 20:35.37 | sigh-thistinks | couldn't find aptitude |
| 20:35.45 | Titan8990_ | sigh-thistinks, apt-get install aptitude |
| 20:36.03 | Titan8990_ | !tell sigh-thistinks about why aptitude |
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| 20:36.25 | sigh-thistinks | thanks Titan8990, i appreciate this help. |
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| 20:36.47 | sigh-thistinks | unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? (i don't want to update anything that will cause this box to crash though) |
| 20:36.57 | sigh-thistinks | does apt-get update simply update the repositories list? |
| 20:37.16 | Titan8990_ | sigh-thistinks, yes |
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| 20:37.34 | sigh-thistinks | cool, it's updating. :) |
| 20:37.45 | sigh-thistinks | oh no, out of room. |
| 20:37.57 | Titan8990_ | you mean hard drive space? |
| 20:38.00 | action09 | sigh-thistinks prefer aptitude instead of apt |
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| 20:38.18 | Titan8990_ | action09, i already linked him the factoid |
| 20:38.28 | Titan8990_ | action09, he still needs to install aptitude |
| 20:38.29 | sigh-thistinks | it says: Reading Package Lists... Error! E: Dynamic MMap ran out of roo |
| 20:38.48 | sigh-thistinks | E: Error occured while processing plplot9-driver-wxwidgets (NewVersion1) |
| 20:38.56 | ajatollah | has been away a good while, why is aptitude prefered over apt-get? |
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| 20:39.17 | sigh-thistinks | E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_Dists_stable_main_binary-i386_Packages |
| 20:39.23 | rudi_s | !tell ajatollah why aptitude |
| 20:39.30 | rudi_s | !tell ajatollah about why aptitude |
| 20:39.31 | sigh-thistinks | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or open |
| 20:39.33 | Titan8990_ | sigh-thistinks, http://www.plug.org/pipermail/plug/2003-January/001867.html |
| 20:39.50 | Titan8990_ | sigh-thistinks, are you running an old version of debian? |
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| 20:39.56 | abrotman | !tell sigh-thistinks about mmap |
| 20:39.58 | sigh-thistinks | yes. it's on an 8 GB hdd. |
| 20:40.03 | abrotman | sigh-thistinks: you probably have too many sources |
| 20:40.09 | sigh-thistinks | i don't want to screw it up - i just need to be able to move this off of this hardware. |
| 20:40.26 | ajatollah | ooo, thanks |
| 20:40.26 | sigh-thistinks | I was going to install vmware server 2.0 onto another box and put this into there |
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| 20:40.43 | Tuxist | vmware = bad |
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| 20:40.56 | sigh-thistinks | whatever. |
| 20:41.04 | sigh-thistinks | it isn't a bad solution - better than what they have. |
| 20:41.14 | sigh-thistinks | anyway, should I do the apt cache limit? |
| 20:41.26 | Titan8990_ | sigh-thistinks, he is probably talking about the fact that its proprietary |
| 20:41.34 | Titan8990_ | vmware isn't bad software |
| 20:41.35 | sigh-thistinks | Right, i know - which is why i said whatever |
| 20:41.59 | sigh-thistinks | Titan8990, any suggestions on how I can move the installation off of this server and into a VM? |
| 20:42.00 | sigh-thistinks | I was thinking of just doing a total TAR of everything |
| 20:42.02 | sigh-thistinks | and then untarring it on the new VM |
| 20:42.08 | sigh-thistinks | really only half-knows what he's doing though :) |
| 20:42.25 | sigh-thistinks | i can't make an image because it's on mirroed 8GB SCSI drives |
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| 20:42.58 | Titan8990_ | sigh-thistinks, USB drive... tar will work fine, will only need grub reinstallation |
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| 20:44.00 | Titan8990_ | sigh-thistinks, something like: tar cvjpf --exclude=/sys --exclude=/proc --exclude=/tmp --exclude=/mnt backup.tar.bz2 / |
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| 20:44.32 | sigh-thistinks | considers |
| 20:44.53 | sigh-thistinks | i wouldn't be able to do that on my own. i think that's beyond my limits. |
| 20:45.20 | sigh-thistinks | I was going to try vmware converter p2v as well |
| 20:45.28 | sigh-thistinks | don't know what i need installed on the linux side for that |
| 20:45.36 | sigh-thistinks | sounds like this box is pretty stuck when it comes to installing new stuff |
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| 20:46.08 | Titan8990_ | sigh-thistinks, i have never been on a unix based system that didn't have tar |
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| 20:46.20 | sigh-thistinks | it has tar - i've tar'd the whole thing before |
| 20:46.27 | retro_neo | different topic: I have an old apache2 on debian lenny (upgraded from sarge), and can't recall how I installed it (dpkg/compiled), now I'm having trouble adding a module (mod_rewrite), what would you recommend? |
| 20:46.44 | retro_neo | maybe delete it all and install the official packages? |
| 20:46.53 | Titan8990_ | retro_neo, mod_rewrite should be installed by default, just not enabled |
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| 20:47.12 | retro_neo | Titan8990_: its doesn't seem to be |
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| 20:47.36 | sigh-thistinks | Titan - is reinstallation of grub easy? |
| 20:47.49 | Titan8990_ | sigh-thistinks, very |
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| 20:48.15 | retro_neo | well, I found my original install dir : I seem to have compiled it from source (apache 2.2.4) |
| 20:48.16 | sigh-thistinks | cool - hey, mind if i msg you? I don't want to fill up the chan with too much noob talk. I have 3 questions that would really help me out that I know you know the answers to. |
| 20:48.18 | Titan8990_ | sigh-thistinks, you only need to install to the mbr, the configuration files will still be there from your previous backup |
| 20:48.38 | Titan8990_ | sigh-thistinks, oh... /etc/fstab will also need to change but only if fstab is using uuids |
| 20:48.50 | Titan8990_ | retro_neo, then go to #apache |
| 20:49.26 | Titan8990_ | sigh-thistinks, sure but i will be leaving work in about 5mins |
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| 20:50.37 | mischievious | can anyone perhaps tell me where the sshd messages are logged? |
| 20:51.48 | Titan8990_ | mischievious, what type of messages? like the auth log? |
| 20:51.57 | jhutchins | daemons maybe? |
| 20:52.15 | mischievious | Titan8990_, any relevant messages to sshd |
| 20:52.26 | sigh-thistinks | dangit, i /msg'd the wrong guy |
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| 20:52.42 | action09 | !tell action09 about why aptitude |
| 20:52.46 | mischievious | i can't ssh from WAN but i'm still connected on LAN, and sshd is still up so i am trying to see what is up |
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| 20:53.58 | sigh-thistinks | Titan8990_, you have PM |
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| 20:55.19 | action09 | hi , did anybody know the windows soft that is a little debian system (complete) i can't remenber the project's name :( i used it sometimes really useful. I think it's a Debian compiled to used on windows |
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| 20:56.42 | JPT | action09: you mean cygwin? |
| 20:56.53 | n770er | Hi |
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| 20:57.05 | n770er | is there any way to force the removal of a package= |
| 20:57.14 | n770er | I accidentially deleted some files by hand, and now remove fails |
| 20:57.15 | action09 | JPT no it's a debian os in a windows classic window, and you have the debian inside it, it's really a Debian os |
| 20:57.19 | n770er | Removing postgresql-8.3 ... |
| 20:57.21 | n770er | .: 19: Can't open /usr/share/postgresql-common/maintscripts-functions |
| 20:57.40 | JPT | action09: Microsoft Virtual PC, bochs or similar software will be your choice then |
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| 20:57.57 | action09 | JPT ok thanks but it's not one of them |
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| 20:58.16 | JPT | okay... with cygwin you can run linux programs under windows |
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| 20:58.36 | mischievious | vmware? :/ |
| 20:58.38 | JPT | with some stuff like bochs you can emulate a virtual pc where you really can run debian "under" windows |
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| 20:59.33 | JPT | but you cannot run debian under windows because they are completely different operation systems. (have you tried to drive a car with two drivers at the same time?) |
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| 20:59.47 | n770er | dpkg --force-all didn't help, it still aborts :-/ |
| 20:59.47 | dpkg | n770er: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 20:59.53 | action09 | JPT yes i use virtualbox, vmware, i know qemu a little bitn, but what i'm searching is some kind of a 'port' of Debian that you can launch |
| 20:59.58 | Tramp | n770er: maybe reinstall, then remove (or purge) - but maybe somebody knows better .... |
| 21:00.10 | action09 | JPT sorry for my wrong description of the sodt.. :( |
| 21:00.17 | action09 | JPT s/sodt/soft |
| 21:00.30 | JPT | well...the better your description, the easier is it to find a solution |
| 21:00.34 | JPT | :) |
| 21:01.06 | n770er | Tramp: how can I reinstall it? |
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| 21:01.47 | JPT | n770er: if it tells you that it is missing a certain file, just create it without any content. maybe it will help |
| 21:01.49 | dent | action09: what about http://www.colinux.org/ ? (not really debian, but linux running as an app in win) |
| 21:01.56 | Tramp | n770er: aptitude reinstall <package> |
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| 21:02.06 | action09 | dent exactly thios is what i was searching thanks a lot :) |
| 21:02.10 | action09 | JPT colinux :) |
| 21:02.19 | dent | n/p :) |
| 21:02.22 | JPT | Oo...a kernel port |
| 21:02.34 | n770er | Tramp: I only have apt-get |
| 21:02.37 | JPT | well... i did not know there is such a weird project |
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| 21:02.46 | dent | JPT: weird indeed :) |
| 21:02.51 | action09 | really useful when you have only windows :) |
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| 21:02.58 | dent | I tried it once... it actually works :) |
| 21:03.01 | dent | action09: poor U! |
| 21:03.07 | action09 | :] |
| 21:03.35 | foo | oom-killer is coming in killing procs at random. oom = out of memory killer, I believe. How can I narrow down what is sucking up memory? oom-killer has killed off mysql, apache, bind, various processes... and I don't know what's sucking up all the memory. |
| 21:03.46 | Tramp | n770er: apt-get --reinstall install <package name> - but consider using aptitude in the future |
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| 21:04.25 | JPT | foo: check that your kernel is not using ram for itself or for stuff like i/o buffers |
| 21:05.32 | foo | JPT: thanks. free -m shows this: -/+ buffers/cache: 160 834 (first is used, then free)... how do I know if the kernel is using ram for itself? |
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| 21:05.56 | JPT | top should be a bit easier to read.. |
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| 21:06.16 | JPT | well... |
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| 21:06.21 | foo | JPT: ok, what am I looking for? hmph |
| 21:06.33 | JPT | 160MB for buffer, 834MB for cache... if that are megabyte.. |
| 21:06.47 | JPT | oh |
| 21:06.48 | JPT | no.. |
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| 21:07.06 | JPT | free -m should give at least 3 lines with data.. |
| 21:07.16 | JPT | you'll be searching for stuff in the "Mem:" column |
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| 21:08.22 | JPT | foo: http://pastebin.ca/1545086 <-- this is how i get and read free -m |
| 21:08.24 | foo | JPT: yup, for mem, there is total 995, 950 used, and 44 free |
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| 21:09.32 | dent | I' |
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| 21:10.18 | dent | m wrestling with swart mesa... I'd like libgl1-mesa-swx11-dev but also GLUT (libglut3-dev I guess) |
| 21:10.37 | JPT | mh...i'll go to bed now... gn8 :) |
| 21:10.39 | dent | but installing GLUT would remove swrast mesa and replace it with DRI mesa |
| 21:10.51 | foo | JPT: thanks anyway |
| 21:10.51 | JPT | np :) |
| 21:11.11 | dent | while glut + swrast mesa from soruces work and I'd think glut doesn't care if it's swrast or DRI mesa |
| 21:11.26 | dent | any idea what I'm doing wrong/how to fix it/if it's a bug or a feature |
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| 21:15.34 | CryptoMole | hi all |
| 21:16.24 | CryptoMole | question is it possible to obtain a copy of etch anymore? |
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| 21:20.31 | foo | oom-killer is coming in killing procs at random. oom = out of memory killer, I believe. How can I narrow down what is sucking up memory? oom-killer has killed off mysql, apache, bind, various processes... and I don't know what's sucking up all the memory. |
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| 21:21.23 | alinux | hey is there a utility in Linux similar to windows tools that allow to save ssh usernames and passwords and when you click on the entry it does auto-login to the server ? |
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| 21:22.26 | simonrvn | alinux: you're talking about an ssh key... |
| 21:22.38 | CryptoMole | later debian |
| 21:23.04 | alinux | simonrvn, not really ...without using keys...there is one paid utility on Win taht does this...but forgot it;s name |
| 21:23.07 | abrotman | simonrvn: actually, i think putty can do this |
| 21:23.16 | cypr1nus | Is anything known about kde4.3 in squeeze? |
| 21:23.54 | alinux | abrotman, from what i remember putty does not save the pwd ...right ? |
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| 21:25.01 | raidghost | good evening/ good morning |
| 21:25.48 | raidghost | I`ve got some problems getting the soundcard working on a compaq deskpro EN. I wonder WHY its so freaking hard to get it working propperly |
| 21:25.50 | abrotman | alinux: i thought it did .. but i owuldn't use it if it did |
| 21:26.05 | abrotman | raidghost: which kernel? 'uname -a' |
| 21:26.40 | raidghost | Linux gw-sk 2.6.18-6-686 #1 SMP Sat Dec 27 09:31:05 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 21:27.16 | fas3r | hello |
| 21:27.23 | abrotman | raidghost: any thoughts to moving the box to lenny? |
| 21:27.43 | fas3r | i search people with hardly knowledge on freeraidus and modules :) ? someone like this here :p ? |
| 21:27.44 | abrotman | raidghost: do you know which sound device? lspci -nn .. show us the line |
| 21:28.28 | raidghost | 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio [8086:2445] (rev 01) |
| 21:28.56 | abrotman | judd: pciid 8086:2445 |
| 21:28.57 | judd | abrotman: [8086:2445] is '82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel module 'snd-intel8x0' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:2445 http://wiki.debian.org/slmodem |
| 21:29.05 | abrotman | seems like a pretty basic card |
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| 21:29.28 | SuperMIguel | in twinview is there a way to tell a program to start on a specific location (x,y) ?? |
| 21:29.32 | raidghost | snd_es1968 is what module i`ve tried |
| 21:29.48 | abrotman | seems like the wrong one |
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| 21:30.04 | abrotman | raidghost: the kernel usually knows pretty well what will work with a device |
| 21:30.52 | raidghost | its so annoing that it uses pcspeaker to give sound in terminal |
| 21:30.57 | raidghost | but in kde. No sound at all |
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| 21:31.32 | abrotman | !alsa check |
| 21:31.45 | abrotman | !alsa checklist |
| 21:31.45 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels) 3) arts or esound stopped? 4) OSS modules unloaded? 5) speakers on? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. See also <list alsa users>. |
| 21:31.45 | abrotman | duh |
| 21:32.50 | lizone | anyone having trouble with audio on a netbook with debian lenny? |
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| 21:33.37 | Tramp | nice, a poll. What should I answer if I have no Netbook? Can I win something? |
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| 21:34.37 | lizone | if you don't have it then don't answer anything |
| 21:34.38 | simonrvn | Tramp: a netbook! |
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| 21:37.54 | dhodgkin | anyone have any ideas where to find info on how to use libnotify from a bash script? |
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| 21:38.44 | bzed | dhodgkin: like inotifywa(it|tch) ? |
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| 21:39.14 | bzed | dhodgkin: inotify-tools << look at that package |
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| 21:39.27 | githogorin | After my "apt-get dist-upgrade" yesterday, I now have two machines that fail in grub2. Googling hasn't helped so far. |
| 21:39.27 | dhodgkin | bzed: thank you |
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| 21:39.55 | githogorin | I'm using unstable. |
| 21:40.19 | githogorin | And "ext4". |
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| 21:40.32 | ghostman | plip |
| 21:40.37 | Maleko | can anyone explain me in simple language what does "chmod +s" really do? |
| 21:40.43 | cypr1nus | how can I check which package contains specific file? |
| 21:41.14 | Maleko | i checked it on wiki but i cant understand why it means by special mode |
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| 21:41.39 | adb | cypr1nus: apt-file ? |
| 21:41.46 | cypr1nus | adb thanks |
| 21:41.48 | Skipp_OSX | The set-user-ID-on-execution and set-group-ID-on-execution bits. |
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| 21:42.37 | adb | cypr1nus: /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 21:42.58 | Skipp_OSX | Maleko: really, I can't |
| 21:43.26 | Maleko | :) |
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| 21:48.25 | simonrvn | githogorin: it's called the bts. you as a sid user should know that |
| 21:48.30 | simonrvn | !bts |
| 21:48.30 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
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| 21:49.25 | simonrvn | i'm not one to call people names, but if i were i'd call that stupid |
| 21:49.33 | githogorin | I know, I just thought I could get a quicker answer here since I'm left high and dry now. |
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| 21:50.36 | zeroConf | jerri lynn OUCH |
| 21:50.51 | benedikt | Im having trouble configuring cups (never done it before) on debian lennny (arm arch). I cant log on to the webinterface from a remote computer. This shows up in the error_log with loglevel at debug: cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. |
| 21:51.22 | markybob | benedikt, only 127.0.0.1 can see the web interface by default |
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| 21:51.47 | benedikt | markybob: i see no notion of that in cupsd.conf. Orignally it was only listening on 127.0.0.1 but i changed that |
| 21:52.42 | markybob | benedikt, doesnt much matter what you see. you have to explicitly allow |
| 21:52.43 | benedikt | markybob: http://pastebin.com/m6a4f3d92 my cupsd.conf |
| 21:53.12 | benedikt | nice point... ill try that when its finished installing links2 |
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| 21:54.29 | cypr1nus | is there any way to build debian package with the latest nvidia drivers on my own? |
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| 21:54.46 | benedikt | cypr1nus: the nvidia drivers are closed source. |
| 21:54.55 | benedikt | only availible as binary from nvidia |
| 21:55.00 | gravity | The packaging is open though, and on (I think) svn.debian.org |
| 21:55.09 | gravity | So you can take that and update the driver package |
| 21:55.25 | SerajewelKS | holy shit, opengoo looks sexy |
| 21:55.30 | cypr1nus | benedikt: i know, i was just wondering if it helps with missing file during installation |
| 21:56.16 | benedikt | gravity: nvidia released a open source 2d driver called nv. But they quit mainting it a good while ago. The noeuveu (spelling?) project has reverse engineered the 2d part |
| 21:56.33 | gravity | benedikt: Yes, I know |
| 21:56.45 | gravity | Both of those are in git.debian.org |
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| 21:58.48 | benedikt | mavhc: thanks. it worked. |
| 21:58.56 | benedikt | gravity: sorry. I though you had asked the question. |
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| 21:59.30 | gravity | benedikt: No worries |
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| 22:03.01 | benedikt | NOw i just have to figure out how to add the damn printer to cups |
| 22:03.22 | gravity | The web ui is the only way I ever figured out |
| 22:04.20 | benedikt | iver never used cups before so i am the starting point. but ill figure it out |
| 22:05.01 | benedikt | in add printer. what does it mean by name |
| 22:05.19 | gravity | Just name the thing. "Office Printer" or whatever. |
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| 22:06.50 | benedikt | gravity: ah. thought it was asking for a ip address (its usb, thas why i got confused) |
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| 22:16.04 | NoFX_SBC | hello! i need install xen-linux-system-2.6.18-8-xen-amd64 on lenny. what is the best way do this? |
| 22:16.16 | benedikt | apt-get |
| 22:16.47 | NoFX_SBC | benedikt right, but i need add deb etch at /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 22:17.19 | Maleko | how do you run this command ^A:multiuser on |
| 22:17.26 | Maleko | http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Using_GNU_screen%27s_multiuser_feature_for_remote_support |
| 22:17.42 | Maleko | 1. Run the "^A:multiuser on" command as described above. |
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| 22:18.53 | NoFX_SBC | benedikt ? |
| 22:19.20 | benedikt | NoFX_SBC: no idea. probly is in teh default repos. try. |
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| 22:23.02 | SparFux1 | Hi! In Debian unstable grub2 what is the most elegant way to switch back to text mode bootup screen? |
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| 22:24.41 | SparFux1 | ah, I will try GRUB_TERMINAL=console |
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| 22:26.23 | swoody | so is there any way to add custom keyboard shortcuts? |
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| 22:28.14 | Blackshark | does anyone know any terminal based application which tracks the network traffic and can split it up into diffrent categories like http ftp and so on? |
| 22:28.23 | Supertanker | Is there a utility for Gnome that will automatically find/connect to wireless networks, etc? |
| 22:28.26 | Supertanker | Blackshark, iftop |
| 22:28.29 | Supertanker | er, wait. |
| 22:28.37 | Supertanker | I don't know if it splits by protocol. |
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| 22:30.36 | tangential | hi there,anyone use finger-print auth with aes2501 or other? |
| 22:30.55 | Blackshark | Supertanker: thanks looks quite good. do you know if it is possible to log the content and get some statistics from it out of the box? |
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| 22:32.15 | Tramp | tangential: I use an aes2501 with fprint (uses libusb, iirc) |
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| 22:33.20 | Supertanker | Blackshark, I'm not sure, I only just found out about it myself (along with htop, which kicks butt as a replacement for top, and iotop) |
| 22:33.42 | Blackshark | Supertanker: yeah htop is awesome |
| 22:34.08 | tangential | Tramp: that good, could you give me usb sinff dum from this device, I want to comare wit onother and make a new driver for my fprint... |
| 22:34.36 | Tramp | tangential: the what?? |
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| 22:34.57 | tangential | yes, if it's not so huge to you |
| 22:35.21 | Tramp | tangential: I don't know, what you want. lsusb shows: Bus 003 Device 002: ID 08ff:2580 AuthenTec, Inc. AES2501 Fingerprint Sensor - if that helps |
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| 22:38.14 | tangential | Tramp: http://www.linux-usb.org/tools.html see here... usb sniffers |
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| 22:39.09 | tangential | Tramp: dump like this... [937342 ms] UsbSnoop - FilterDispatchAny(02defb90) : IRP_MJ_INTERNAL_DEVICE_CONTROL |
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| 22:40.06 | jigp | sup |
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| 22:41.55 | benedikt | I need help with my printer (i was nagging about cups before). This happens when i try to cat a file to /dev/usb/lp0: "/dev/usb/lp0: Device or resource busy" |
| 22:42.45 | Tramp | tangential: well, I can help you out within reasonable limits - so what do you want me to do? which utility are you talking about? |
| 22:43.09 | Titan8990 | benedikt, you can't cat a block device |
| 22:43.26 | Titan8990 | benedikt, files /dev/ are devices |
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| 22:44.00 | benedikt | Titan8990: i was piping to it. cat text.txt > /dev/usb/lp0 |
| 22:44.21 | tangential | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:45.13 | Tramp | tangential: there is no packet usbsniff and apt-cache search usbsniff does not return anything |
| 22:46.15 | Tramp | tangential: in case you are talking about the Win*-utility of that name - I don't run Win* |
| 22:46.23 | tangential | Tramp: hm, yea, i don't see whis via aptitude , but it contains there.. http://www.wingmanteam.com/usbsnoopy/sniffusb/sniffusb-0.13.zip |
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| 22:47.15 | Titan8990 | benedikt, and what do you plan to accomplish with that? |
| 22:47.44 | Titan8990 | benedikt, and for the most part, just assume you can't directly read, write, or interact with anything in /dev |
| 22:47.56 | llutz | benedikt: does "lpr text.txt" work? |
| 22:48.02 | llutz | Titan8990: usually you can |
| 22:48.05 | benedikt | Titan8990: i was trying to debugging why cups refused to print anything. all of a sudden it started printing... after waiting 10 minutes.. and now it works. what the hell? |
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| 22:48.54 | Titan8990 | benedikt, most of the time its incorrect drivers |
| 22:49.05 | Titan8990 | IMO, if you plan to use linux you should always buy HP printers |
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| 22:49.15 | MikeH | I currently have a debian box booting to command line, how can I have it login as a user, and start up an app natively in x? |
| 22:49.18 | Titan8990 | hplip make them pretty much plug-and-play |
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| 22:49.34 | Tramp | tangential: that's Win* source. |
| 22:49.52 | Titan8990 | MikeH, you have to start an x session... have you installed xserver or a window manager? |
| 22:50.00 | rudi_s | MikeH: startx if you have xorg installed. |
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| 22:50.08 | MikeH | I have X working |
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| 22:50.19 | benedikt | Titan8990: its a hp driver. I thought it was binary drivers though. |
| 22:50.24 | MikeH | I want to have it start xbmc inside X automatically, as a specific user |
| 22:50.24 | benedikt | foo2zjs |
| 22:50.25 | Titan8990 | MikeH, you want to auto-start X and have it launch an application? |
| 22:50.31 | MikeH | yes, but no WM |
| 22:50.41 | Titan8990 | benedikt, usually aptitude install hplip, done with hp printers |
| 22:51.26 | Titan8990 | MikeH, I am not sure about auto-login and auto-startup but you can just add the application to your .xinitrc to have it run when X does |
| 22:51.39 | Titan8990 | MikeH, what is the goal that you are trying to accomplish? |
| 22:51.45 | benedikt | Titan8990: ive never installed a printer before... I followed a guide i found on google: http://phanvinhthinh.blogspot.com/2008/06/install-hp-laserjet-1018-printer-on.html . Should I have done it differently? |
| 22:51.50 | MikeH | Titan8990: turn on machine, xbmc comes up |
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| 22:53.06 | Titan8990 | benedikt, well... i personally would have used hplip instead |
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| 22:53.22 | benedikt | Both seem to be open source |
| 22:55.48 | Titan8990 | benedikt, that other driver is more of a "general" type thing |
| 22:55.53 | Titan8990 | benedikt, kid of like vesa for video |
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| 22:55.58 | Titan8990 | s/kid/kind |
| 22:56.25 | benedikt | Titan8990: ah. and hplib is (of course) for hp printer. Well, this one works and Im not printing anything but text.. |
| 22:56.32 | zeroConf | is it considered GOOD or BAD to put apt-get upgrade into cron ? |
| 22:56.51 | Titan8990 | benedikt, then stop there :) |
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| 22:57.01 | benedikt | Titan8990: dont fix it if it aint broken :) |
| 22:57.04 | Titan8990 | zeroConf, blind upgrades are bad |
| 22:57.15 | Titan8990 | zeroConf, although, not as bad in debian as some other distros |
| 22:58.04 | zeroConf | when you put it that way, i can see what you mean, its just that, well - if someone doesnt have a admin, i was thinking about WHAT might be a good way to go in terms of keeping the box somewhat safe from current exploits etc... |
| 22:58.14 | Titan8990 | zeroConf, e.g. "HELP!!! a upgrade borked my system."; "What was in the upgrade?"; "idk...." |
| 22:58.47 | zeroConf | lol - i can see it now, yes - i guess a nix server install is also a ongoing admin job.... |
| 22:59.14 | Titan8990 | zeroConf, well, you could install sudo and give them rights to the GUI update manager or something |
| 22:59.14 | benedikt | zeroConf: best way to keep if safe is to make sure it isnt facing any vulnerabilities |
| 22:59.24 | benedikt | use iptables to limit traffic from internet |
| 22:59.31 | benedikt | dont allow anything more then neccesary |
| 22:59.34 | Titan8990 | zeroConf, but i personally have machines i don't upgrade for 6mos at a time |
| 22:59.40 | Titan8990 | zeroConf, because there is simply no need |
| 22:59.50 | benedikt | same here |
| 23:00.04 | Titan8990 | i NEVER upgrade my kernel unless vulns are released |
| 23:00.35 | Tramp | tangential: well, I can sniff USB data with the method described here: http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/7582/ - but it's rather raw data and not the format you showed above |
| 23:01.32 | zeroConf | sure, a properly configured install will help prevent issues... and i guess most exploits take time to filter down to scripts, and unless your doing something where you are going to be a target... then really you dont need to be bleeding edge... |
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| 23:03.01 | zeroConf | so maybe if you were a bank... then you would be a target, and if you were such a target... then you wouldnt be not having an admin anyway.... |
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| 23:03.24 | zeroConf | o FUCK, i just realized that i am going to miss the show.... |
| 23:03.26 | zeroConf | damit |
| 23:04.04 | benedikt | what show? |
| 23:04.25 | tangential | Tramp: ok, it would be more then nothing... |
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| 23:08.21 | tangential | Tramp: futhemore, if you've this one.. /sys/module/usbcore/parameter/usb_snoop you can said it echo 'Y' > /sys/module/usbcore/parameter/usb_snoop and tailing log... |
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| 23:09.37 | Tramp | tangential: well, it's ".../usbfs_snoop", not "usb_snoop" but that's probably what you mean |
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| 23:13.50 | Tramp | tangential: well, this shows stuff like: [10054.092467] usb 3-1: userurb=bfa6c6c4 |
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| 23:15.27 | tangential | Tramp: that's well |
| 23:15.40 | careta | how do I change my network interface name? |
| 23:16.06 | zeroConf | titan8990 - how did that go ? |
| 23:16.27 | abrotman | careta: what's wrong with the name it has ? |
| 23:16.27 | Titan8990 | zeroConf, perfect :) |
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| 23:16.49 | Titan8990 | careta, i would say udev rules if its possible |
| 23:16.51 | zeroConf | i wasnt sure if my client authed to nickserv before joining the channels or after.... |
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| 23:17.14 | careta | abrotman, I passed my squeeze installation to a new computer and now my wired card is eth3 and wireless wlan1, instead of eth0 and wlan0 previously |
| 23:17.18 | zeroConf | thanks titan8990 |
| 23:17.22 | abrotman | !tell careta about 70 |
| 23:17.41 | tangential | Tramp: did you see something liek PipeHandle TransferFlags or something else..., may be you need to enable verbose mod |
| 23:17.57 | Titan8990 | abrotman, why 70 for that factoid? |
| 23:18.18 | abrotman | Titan8990: the name of the file |
| 23:18.19 | Titan8990 | abrotman, nvm... persistent rules |
| 23:18.35 | careta | thanks abrotman |
| 23:18.35 | MikeH | Can anyone tell me why, in interfaces this isn't working: http://pastebin.com/m5592c868 |
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| 23:20.14 | abrotman | MikeH: the gateway is intentionally missing ? |
| 23:20.39 | karsten | abrotman: Maybe he's using stargate SG1? |
| 23:20.41 | dondelelcaro | MikeH: that hopefully isn't your entire interfaces file |
| 23:21.18 | karsten | MikeH: Post the full file. |
| 23:21.30 | karsten | MikeH: You're missing eth0, and lo, for starters. |
| 23:21.50 | karsten | MikeH: Either of which could foul things up. 'ifconfig -a; route -n' would also help. |
| 23:22.00 | Tramp | tangential: no. additionally this generates tons of logs, since e.g. also every mouse-movement is logged excessively |
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| 23:23.53 | adb | Agiofws: ping |
| 23:24.57 | tangential | Tramp: I see, could you get about 1,5mb this log and put it on the pastebin .. |
| 23:25.22 | MikeH | karsten: everything else works |
| 23:25.32 | MikeH | it's just that pseudo interface that isn't coming up on boot |
| 23:25.44 | MikeH | ifconfig eth0:1 192.168.1.11 netmask 255.255.255.0 works fine |
| 23:26.06 | swoody | anyone know how to disable the horizontal mouse scroll? |
| 23:26.24 | MikeH | my entire interfaces file, karsten : http://pastebin.com/m2c1e8b52 |
| 23:26.46 | Tramp | tangential: so. I scanned a finger for you. The output of "cat /sys/kernel/debug/usbmon/3u" is 320k. The kernlog, after I grepped out the relevant timeframe, is >3 meg |
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| 23:28.03 | tangential | Tramp: ok, may be it enough |
| 23:28.56 | abrotman | MikeH: where is your 'auto eth0:1' line ? |
| 23:29.17 | MikeH | oops |
| 23:29.19 | MikeH | thank you abrotman |
| 23:29.53 | Tramp | tangential: which pastebin allows that amount of data? |
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| 23:30.55 | tangential | possible that pastebin.com |
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| 23:32.26 | MikeH | abrotman: I added the line, to no avail |
| 23:32.52 | abrotman | did you restart networking ? |
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| 23:33.02 | MikeH | i rebooted the machine |
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| 23:37.01 | abrotman | is there an error in dmesg ? |
| 23:37.16 | abrotman | ifconfig -a .. is it up/configured ? |
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| 23:38.43 | MikeH | it is now, because I did it manually, no errors in dmesg |
| 23:39.22 | Tramp | tangential: honestly, I have no idea how to put 300k (or 3M) in a pastebin. I have a script which uploads files to rafb, but that site does not exist anymore. If you have a script that works, show me, otherwise /msg me an email-address and I send you the crap |
| 23:39.48 | Tramp | will take ages anyways to get it through my upstream. |
| 23:39.49 | abrotman | MikeH: 1) What about it doesn't work? 2) show us 'ifconfig -a' before you screw with it manually |
| 23:40.26 | k]t | - with alsa's amixer , is it possible to control the current audio device(card) - such as headphones, hdmi, pc, etc. |
| 23:41.34 | MikeH | abrotman: the interface simply never appears - http://pastebin.com/m5ef38054 |
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| 23:42.23 | abrotman | and you added the auto line ? |
| 23:42.29 | abrotman | if you 'ifup eth0:1' .. what does it say ? |
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| 23:42.34 | MikeH | http://pastebin.com/m31fec53f <-- included interfaces in this one |
| 23:42.39 | fish_ | hi |
| 23:42.41 | Ruby_Fulcrum | Hi. I just found this message in my auth.log, but it is really unhelpful, doesn't even show a username or pid. Is there any way I can find more information on this login attempt? Thanks! info (auth) : subsystem request for sftp |
| 23:42.54 | zeroConf | so i am thinking about a new computer for a friend, he just wants a server and wants some advice, and i am thinking.... AMD.... x4 Phenom 9650 or x3 Phenom II 710 or x3 Phenom II 720 |
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| 23:43.30 | MikeH | abrotman: I just can't figure it out, the eth0 entry works fine |
| 23:43.33 | abrotman | zeroConf: ##hardware ? |
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| 23:43.47 | abrotman | MikeH: ifup ? |
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| 23:44.37 | MikeH | abrotman: ifup eth0:1 brings it up correctly |
| 23:44.39 | zeroConf | perfect - thanks abrotman :-) many thanks |
| 23:45.09 | fish_ | found that issue in debians libgd flavor, maybe someone cares.. i talked to the libgd guys and they told my that they informed 'you' about that problem, so i won't use a official way again. but i blogged about it: http://freigeist.org/articles/DOS%20issue%20in%20debians%20libgd.pod |
| 23:46.17 | MikeH | abrotman: it seems the auto line is being ignored? |
| 23:46.31 | abrotman | hotplug ? |
| 23:46.49 | fish_ | that bug is fixed since ~3 years |
| 23:47.26 | MikeH | that did it, although, I'm certain I tried that |
| 23:47.27 | MikeH | reboots |
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| 23:48.16 | abrotman | fish_: huh ? |
| 23:49.11 | fish_ | abrotman: well, thats what the ligd guys told me |
| 23:50.06 | abrotman | fish_: i'm confused .. Debian uses the upstream libgd AFAIK .. we don't use the PHP-bundled libgd |
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| 23:51.37 | fish_ | abrotman: the ligd guys told me that debian uses the stand-only-libgd with various patches that cause that problem. i just repeat what they said. they also advise to use the php-bundled libgd |
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| 23:52.16 | abrotman | maybe they should send their patches to libgd ? |
| 23:52.35 | abrotman | fish_: you can file a bug if you want .. |
| 23:52.54 | fish_ | abrotman: that fact is, there is that issue and i only have debian systems here atm, but the libgd guys said that this is a bug which is patched in libgd and the php-bundled libgd since ~3 years and it is still an issue in debian |
| 23:53.14 | abrotman | fish_: okay .. i wouldn't listen to that guy .. he's telling you to use dotdeb, which are known to be buggy as hell |
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| 23:53.58 | abrotman | fish_: you could find out where he committed the change .. and check the debian source package of libgd or libgd2 |
| 23:54.03 | fish_ | abrotman: well, i bet he would suggest me the same related to your telling :D |
| 23:54.38 | abrotman | fish_: i'm only telling you that debian doesn't use the php-bundled libgd .. AFAIK, they use the upstream libgd |
| 23:55.27 | fish_ | abrotman: yes, thats what he said too, but he said that they advise to use the php-bundled one |
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| 23:55.59 | abrotman | fish_: which is nice as long as you follow all libgd related security issues .. because when debian releases a security fix for libgd, it won't affect your PHP |
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| 23:56.26 | abrotman | fish_: i'd ask him for the code that fixes it, and compare it to the source for libgd2-xpm |
| 23:56.44 | abrotman | or i'll help you if you're really intrested |
| 23:57.09 | MikeH | abrotman: The plot thickens, reboot - doesn't come up, restart networking, and it comes up |
| 23:57.32 | abrotman | MikeH: paste your interfaces file again |
| 23:58.03 | MikeH | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/m6e80c3c4 |
| 23:58.15 | fish_ | abrotman: yes, lets talk about that tomorrow, i have to go to bed now. but maybe the was talking buillshit the whole time and that issue even happens on a vanilla libgd |
| 23:58.41 | abrotman | fish_: there will be people around .. i'll be here for the daytime US/Eastern |
| 23:59.01 | abrotman | MikeH: so it doesn't come up at all ? |
| 23:59.12 | MikeH | abrotman: upon restarting networking yes, but on reboot, no |
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| 23:59.28 | abrotman | and there aren't any errors ? |
| 23:59.46 | oh_noes | I need to tell Debian the hardware block (BIOS clock) is using LOCAL time (not UTC). What file do I put this in? |
| 23:59.58 | abrotman | oh_noes: /etc/default/rcS |
