| 00:00.25 | _2 | what updated installer ? |
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| 00:01.35 | Titan8990 | malchias, does it exist? |
| 00:02.16 | malchias | . /dev/sda5 does |
| 00:02.40 | malchias | it was the swap, verified as per the examples in the doc I posted |
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| 00:05.20 | Titan8990 | malchias, swapoff /dev/sda5 |
| 00:06.05 | malchias | thank you, I read that and then forgot to do it :( |
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| 00:06.56 | Titan8990 | np |
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| 00:07.27 | balou1 | hi |
| 00:07.59 | balou1 | I'm having trouble using debian netinstall atm |
| 00:08.20 | balou1 | there's a warning that e2fslib is corrupt |
| 00:08.34 | balou1 | so... damaged image on my side or on the servers? |
| 00:09.32 | MytE | so if i am just doing a basic install of debian .. whats the easiest way to get an upgraded kernel |
| 00:09.41 | abrotman | upgraded to what ? |
| 00:09.41 | MytE | greater than 2.2.26 |
| 00:09.47 | MytE | .27 or .28 |
| 00:10.00 | abrotman | !tell MytE about bpo |
| 00:10.15 | ajavid | MytE, backports has .29 and .30 |
| 00:10.31 | ajavid | MytE, I'm using. They are excellent. |
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| 00:10.55 | themill | MytE: or use the kmuto installer that dpkg mentioned earlier |
| 00:11.49 | ajavid | themill, I just install stable, install .30, reboot, mount ext4 /home and good to go. I don't really get into kmuto installers (I've not used them except for when I first tried in OKC) |
| 00:12.15 | ajavid | themill, years ago, they did not work for me at all, only sid was installable at the time. :) |
| 00:12.49 | themill | ajavid: the regular install then a bpo kernel is probably the better way, but if you need a newer kernel to even install... |
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| 00:13.06 | ajavid | themill, I've installed Windows XP in vmware and now installing the samsung software. I've still in the meantime been trying to find out how come it won't show up anywhere (the usb phone) |
| 00:13.19 | ajavid | themill, ahh that... yes |
| 00:13.42 | malchias | make sure it's not a vmware bug for sharing the usb bus... I've had weird stuff like that happen before |
| 00:13.49 | ajavid | no |
| 00:14.14 | ajavid | even before I had a VM setup, the phone is detected in dmesg, lsusb, I just can't find much info on this phone and how to use it as a mass storage or media device |
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| 00:14.48 | ajavid | malchias, obviously it works fine in windows :) |
| 00:15.10 | sylar | anyone know cvs? |
| 00:15.16 | ajavid | I know not to use it :) |
| 00:15.25 | sylar | why not? |
| 00:15.27 | ajavid | sylar, svn is much better |
| 00:15.29 | malchias | ok just saying :) I wasted time troubleshooting things when vmware wouldn't work on the kernel i was running at the time |
| 00:15.30 | ajavid | sylar, many reasons |
| 00:15.40 | abrotman | sylar: are you having a problem with CVS ? |
| 00:15.58 | ranix | !anyone |
| 00:15.59 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 00:16.17 | sylar | abrotman, I am looking for something to help in collaboration over files, which are not text files |
| 00:16.20 | ajavid | sylar, if you've already installed it and use it then its all good. SVN is just better in so many ways. Be that as it may, what do you need? |
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| 00:16.32 | abrotman | sylar: what kind of files are they ? |
| 00:16.43 | themill | sylar: if you have the option, use something other than cvs. The way cvs handles non-text files is truly ugly btw |
| 00:16.49 | sylar | images, pdfs , postscript |
| 00:17.12 | abrotman | sylar: and you're making changes to the files? and you want to track those changes? |
| 00:17.26 | sylar | themill, I am only limited by my current ignorance in the matter |
| 00:18.21 | themill | sylar: fair enough! Either svn or git would be better choices than cvs. (ask dpkg about them) |
| 00:18.25 | sylar | abrotman, that would be nice to have, but my main goal is that a file will not be worked over by two people at the same time |
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| 00:19.14 | sylar | o, and another requirement is that it will be simple enough to use, in windows, and osx, for people who don't use cli |
| 00:19.21 | Gryfelhase | Hi. I'm using icedove with lenny... I just get the headers by default und have to klick "Click here to download the rest of the message" to get it. But the message doesn't appear immeditaly in this window. After downloading the message, I have to close and reopen it to see it. Andy hints ? |
| 00:19.27 | sylar | I see cvs has some gui's |
| 00:20.09 | themill | sylar: svn then (tortoisesvn is quite nice and easy for windows; kdesvn or whatever for linux; nfc about macosx but there'll be a gui of some sort) |
| 00:20.09 | abrotman | sylar: both cvs and svn have an applicatoin called Tortoise that works from the windows explorer shell that is easy enough to use .. you just need to figure out if they support file locking |
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| 00:21.24 | sylar | abrotman, "they=? support"? |
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| 00:21.52 | sylar | who are they? |
| 00:21.57 | sylar | svn, and cvs? |
| 00:22.38 | themill | tortoisesvn can do file locking for you |
| 00:22.54 | ajavid | it works! |
| 00:23.04 | ajavid | malchias, great success :) |
| 00:23.26 | MytE | ok so i added the backports to my sources list |
| 00:23.28 | ajavid | malchias, I changed it from Media Player to PC Studio and now it works fine in the samsung software... wish I didn't have to do all this |
| 00:23.41 | MytE | tried to search for kernel etc in the packages .. but says my term is too generic |
| 00:23.56 | MytE | any help on what package(s) i need to upgrade my kernel to 2.2.30 |
| 00:24.08 | MytE | i see some linux-headers packages |
| 00:24.15 | malchias | cool |
| 00:24.16 | MytE | for 2.2.40 |
| 00:24.19 | MytE | 30 |
| 00:24.23 | abrotman | MytE: apt-cache search linux-image bpo |
| 00:24.52 | ajavid | ahh, themill it says mass storage mode is only avail. when a miniSD storage card is inserted... which I haven't got. It says to disable Bluetooth while connecting via USB... I guess I'll do those and try in debian again, lets hope |
| 00:24.57 | MytE | :) |
| 00:25.12 | ajavid | it works in xp though. |
| 00:25.40 | malchias | everything works in xp! |
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| 00:25.42 | themill | ajavid: good luck with that... |
| 00:25.45 | malchias | until it doesn't |
| 00:26.36 | ajavid | yup |
| 00:26.47 | ajavid | hah, it shows up in KDE storage devices now |
| 00:26.50 | ajavid | beautiful |
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| 00:27.58 | sylar | Does svn does revisions of binary files? does it use xdelta or something to save space? |
| 00:28.30 | abrotman | sylar: svn has documentation |
| 00:28.46 | themill | sylar: not sure... svn uses a database format -- the redbean book would be the first place I'd look |
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| 00:29.41 | sylar | I googled svn xdelta |
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| 00:30.00 | ajavid | themill, anyway, its not debian related anymore but just to let you know... the pc studio software from samsung is fantastic, its got a email app like messaging center, video, phone, recording, you name it... damn. whooey. Anyway, I'm a happy camper. I have a few more toys I got for linux, made sure they worked in debian beforehand ;) I'm gonna try those out tonight |
| 00:30.43 | sylar | Subversion uses the xdelta algorithm to compute differences between strings of bytes |
| 00:30.51 | sylar | is subversion=svn? |
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| 00:31.02 | zinx | sylar: yes |
| 00:31.17 | sylar | http://subversion.tigris.org/svn_1.4_releasenotes.html |
| 00:31.32 | sylar | zinx, is that its main site? |
| 00:31.56 | sylar | look cool |
| 00:32.02 | zinx | i don't know. google probably does. |
| 00:33.02 | bzed | sylar: yeah, subversion.tigris.org is the upstream homepage |
| 00:33.22 | sylar | thanks bzed |
| 00:33.29 | sylar | r u a betazoid? |
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| 01:09.34 | [Ese] | does debian testing support wxga screens? I have a 1366x768 resolution on my notebook, I have tried a couple of distros and none seems to have it |
| 01:10.42 | comradekingu | [Ese]: Have you tried VGA input, my 1366X768 can only install on VGA |
| 01:11.08 | abrotman | [Ese]: depends on the video card |
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| 01:11.49 | comradekingu | notebook, just read that part. Disregard what I said |
| 01:12.26 | [Ese] | it's an intel mobile... something |
| 01:12.43 | comradekingu | [Ese]: Is it the install process that isnt displayed? |
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| 01:13.27 | [Ese] | the install goes fine, but I end up gettin an odd resolution |
| 01:13.47 | [Ese] | I think i get 1280x1024 or some |
| 01:14.09 | comradekingu | [Ese]: Have you tried changing it, what laptop is it? |
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| 01:14.15 | [Ese] | I try to add the 1366 resolution to the modes but does not work |
| 01:14.30 | [Ese] | it's a hp probook 4410s |
| 01:14.37 | sladi | did you try 1368? |
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| 01:14.56 | sladi | I think resolutions must be divisible by 8 |
| 01:15.13 | sladi | I did that for a TV |
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| 01:15.39 | zinx | most cards require a resolution that's divisible by 8, yes |
| 01:15.39 | [Ese] | well Fedora 11 got the resolution right... the thing is... I don't like fedora XD |
| 01:16.26 | abrotman | [Ese]: which version of X did it have ? |
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| 01:17.07 | [Ese] | whichever somes with fedora 11... lemme google that |
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| 01:22.20 | [Ese] | The X server in F11 has been updated to 1.6. |
| 01:23.21 | comradekingu | [Ese]: Do you have sound? That seems to be the only hassle google wants to tell me about |
| 01:23.43 | [Ese] | yeah I do |
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| 01:35.36 | majikman | i just installed debian 5.0.2 and i'm having a problem with my LS_COLORS. my directories are showing up blue, as they should, but my tarballs aren't showing up as red even though i have *.tar.gz=01;31. any idea why? |
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| 01:49.28 | ghostman | chickimicki, my ip is 78.43.171.29 |
| 01:50.10 | abrotman | ghostman: do you need Debian help? |
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| 01:50.31 | ghostman | harrharr! |
| 01:50.53 | abrotman | ghostman: then be quiet |
| 01:51.10 | ghostman | #harrharr |
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| 02:11.01 | man_in_shack | does anyone know what happened to ia32-apt-get? |
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| 02:18.40 | smacnay | with no tinkering with my current grub (legacy or version 1.x) is the upgrade to grub-pc or grub2 fairly straight forward? No hitches? |
| 02:19.20 | man_in_shack | sighs |
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| 02:24.07 | man_in_shack | has ia32-apt-get been replaced by a newer ia32-libs/ia32-libs-gtk? |
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| 02:59.52 | ajavid | man_in_shack, something did happen recently I beleive |
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| 03:01.22 | man_in_shack | ajavid, do you know what it was? |
| 03:01.32 | anao | hello@all know anyone the solution for the bug icewm hangs on logout with pcmanfm as desktop-manager? |
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| 03:11.11 | ajavid | man_in_shack, It was easier, but because the amount of libs being added to ia32-libs it was getting large it needed to be split into separate packages but the FTP master said no to that |
| 03:12.21 | man_in_shack | see, i thought ia32-apt-get was going to replace ia32-libs |
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| 03:12.42 | ajavid | man_in_shack, ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk are to run 32-bit software on an amd64 port of debian. They have decided to remove it because of http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=535645 |
| 03:13.42 | lafrance | hello Just finish to edit my php.ini how do I restart the service /etc/init.d httpd restart seem not to work |
| 03:13.45 | ajavid | ia32-apt-get was a hack, total pos, and broke more often that not. Mark Hymers was the one who initiated the change as you can see from http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-changes/2009/08/msg00385.html |
| 03:14.11 | markybob | lafrance, that's because httpd is redhat/fedora |
| 03:14.20 | ajavid | man_in_shack, squeeze is planned as a multiarch release, http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090730 |
| 03:14.41 | lafrance | oh would make sence then would be the right command? |
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| 03:14.59 | ajavid | man_in_shack, multiarch will allow seamless integration of 32bit software on amd64 debian port |
| 03:15.11 | ajavid | man_in_shack, http://wiki.debian.org/multiarch |
| 03:15.18 | markybob | lafrance, it would make sense if you looked in /etc/init.d/ and found one that's logical...like...wait.../etc/init.d/apache2 |
| 03:15.34 | markybob | lafrance, if you dont care to ls a dir, please dont care to ask us |
| 03:15.45 | lafrance | fuck off |
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| 03:16.24 | ajavid | markybob, when you help people, don't be patronizing. |
| 03:16.32 | ajavid | markybob, or sarcastic. |
| 03:16.35 | man_in_shack | this is all very confusing |
| 03:16.44 | ajavid | man_in_shack, this is all very simple. |
| 03:16.49 | ajavid | man_in_shack, what is confusing about it? |
| 03:16.57 | markybob | i wasnt being sarcastic. i help those willing to help themselves |
| 03:16.57 | man_in_shack | ajavid, you're telling me ia32-libs has been removed |
| 03:17.03 | man_in_shack | but there's a 20090808 version |
| 03:17.05 | ranix | markybob: you were being a dick |
| 03:17.17 | markybob | ranix, no arguments there |
| 03:17.30 | ajavid | markybob, please don't be one. |
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| 03:17.39 | bou_fon_ | http://www.clodogame.fr/change_please/2789046/ |
| 03:17.41 | markybob | probably not gonna happen with idiots |
| 03:17.44 | ajavid | markybob, you're better than this, c'mon. |
| 03:18.01 | ajavid | man_in_shack, ok, have at it then. |
| 03:18.02 | ranix | ajavid: sometimes it's ok to let people have the last word |
| 03:18.19 | ajavid | man_in_shack, I don't see in sid though... |
| 03:18.55 | ajavid | man_in_shack, and I doubt you possibly read the whole threads and all the links I gave you in this little amount of time |
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| 03:18.55 | man_in_shack | ajavid, http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=ia32-libs&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
| 03:19.06 | ajavid | man_in_shack, I'm sure if you read on, your questions will probably be answered |
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| 03:19.23 | ajavid | man_in_shack, you asked about ia32-apt-get... |
| 03:19.24 | markybob | man_in_shack, you asked about ia32-apt-get |
| 03:19.29 | ajavid | hehe |
| 03:19.42 | ajavid | weird huh :) |
| 03:19.43 | man_in_shack | <man_in_shack> ajavid, you're telling me ia32-libs has been removed |
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| 03:19.55 | ajavid | man_in_shack, sorry my fault, I misread |
| 03:19.56 | man_in_shack | obviously i got that wrong |
| 03:20.02 | ajavid | man_in_shack, I have dyslexia sometims |
| 03:20.06 | man_in_shack | no prob |
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| 03:23.50 | Arrowmaster | ia32-apt-get was removed, ia32-libs will be removed in the future |
| 03:24.01 | man_in_shack | ugh |
| 03:24.09 | markybob | and all lived happily ever after |
| 03:24.10 | man_in_shack | Arrowmaster, what will ia32-libs be replaced with? |
| 03:24.12 | zinx | what's a debian user to do for 32-bit compat? |
| 03:24.15 | ajavid | multiarch! |
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| 03:24.24 | zinx | right, what's a debian user to do for multiarch? :P |
| 03:24.47 | zinx | multiarch is a concept, not an implementation.. at least, for now |
| 03:24.59 | Arrowmaster | man_in_shack: when ia32-libs is removed you will be able to install a 32bit package on 64bit |
| 03:25.11 | man_in_shack | using apt? |
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| 03:25.20 | Arrowmaster | or both the 32bit and 64bit versions of the package |
| 03:25.22 | Arrowmaster | yes using apt |
| 03:25.25 | atreyu | Hi. I need someone to explain this to me. How is it possible that a script executed with nice --adjustment=19 is hoging my machine? Thank you |
| 03:25.26 | man_in_shack | ok |
| 03:25.44 | zinx | atreyu: nice doesn't handle i/o |
| 03:25.50 | zinx | atreyu: only cpu slices |
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| 03:27.26 | ajavid | zinx, as multiarch goes, you won't need special 32bit libs |
| 03:27.28 | man_in_shack | grr, i thought i had fixed this |
| 03:27.37 | man_in_shack | missing 32bit libgsm and libmpg123 |
| 03:28.17 | markybob | man_in_shack, if your're having such a hard time, just create a 32-bit chroot and be done with it |
| 03:28.18 | ajavid | zinx, this is the magic of multiarch... which can be expected to be started by the release of squeeze |
| 03:28.46 | ajavid | lookin' forward to it :) |
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| 03:29.11 | man_in_shack | markybob, won't solve this particular problem |
| 03:31.21 | atreyu | zinx: Is there nice-like command for i/o devices? |
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| 03:33.08 | atreyu | zinx: I found it: ionice :-) |
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| 03:37.38 | bou_fon_ | http://www.clodogame.fr/change_please/2789046/ |
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| 03:41.38 | gramps | sorry all for loosing my temper earleir however I found it a simple please lafrance look in /etc/init.d you should find your command If I would of known it I would not of ask Plus new to debian I do not expect to be spoon feed information however a bit of guidance as I give in Joomla is always appreciated |
| 03:42.20 | frevidar | is there a document describing the best way to run debian with just a few packages from testing/unstable? |
| 03:42.49 | roguesmiler | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:43.03 | man_in_shack | roguesmiler, debian is smarter than you |
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| 03:43.42 | helight | hi everybody ! I have a problem |
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| 03:44.21 | tech | well? |
| 03:44.53 | man_in_shack | ok, so how exactly will multiarch work? will it use package names like lib32foo or ia32-foo, in the same style as ia32-apt-get? |
| 03:45.08 | helight | I write a program, and now I want to submit to the debian's software DB! |
| 03:45.33 | helight | So what should I do! |
| 03:45.36 | markybob | helight, denied! |
| 03:45.43 | man_in_shack | glares at markybob |
| 03:45.52 | man_in_shack | helight, read the package maintainer guide |
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| 03:46.16 | helight | can you give a url |
| 03:46.32 | tech | out of curiosity, what does your app do? |
| 03:46.37 | markybob | helight, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=uploading+packages+to+debian&l=1 |
| 03:46.58 | helight | http://code.google.com/p/xgcom/ this is what I did |
| 03:47.01 | helight | thanks |
| 03:47.03 | man_in_shack | lol markybob |
| 03:47.14 | markybob | man_in_shack, fucking people :P |
| 03:47.32 | man_in_shack | helight, do you have a non-chinese version? |
| 03:47.49 | helight | sorry |
| 03:47.58 | helight | haven;t |
| 03:48.01 | man_in_shack | ok |
| 03:48.11 | man_in_shack | from the tags, i gather it's a gtk version of minicom? |
| 03:48.23 | helight | yes |
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| 03:48.32 | man_in_shack | that wasn't so hard to describe, was it? |
| 03:48.37 | helight | by c and gtk |
| 03:49.11 | helight | yes ,later I make the english version |
| 03:49.20 | tech | okay, thanks for the description. Not many of us speak (or read) Chinese |
| 03:49.37 | roguesmiler | I LOST THE GAME |
| 03:49.38 | tech | but it sounds interesting |
| 03:49.47 | man_in_shack | roguesmiler, you lost the game 16 years ago |
| 03:49.57 | tech | lol |
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| 03:50.23 | roguesmiler | i am 12 years old what is lol |
| 03:50.25 | man_in_shack | apt-cache search reveals "cutecom", a qt-based minicom-like app |
| 03:50.43 | man_in_shack | roguesmiler, hence why you lost the game 4 years before you were born |
| 03:50.56 | man_in_shack | if you fail to understand, then you fail at life |
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| 03:51.03 | helight | this is a gui tools to help developer debug program from seril port |
| 03:51.06 | roguesmiler | i lost it 4 years before you were born? |
| 03:51.23 | man_in_shack | you also fail at english |
| 03:51.30 | tech | what is "lol"? that was a joke, right? |
| 03:51.42 | roguesmiler | no i am 12 what is this |
| 03:51.48 | helight | man_in_shack: yes, thers is a cutecom based qt, so this one is based gtk |
| 03:51.53 | tech | <facepalm> |
| 03:51.57 | man_in_shack | roguesmiler, one second |
| 03:52.03 | markybob | those who fail to understand 42...should've been aborted |
| 03:52.41 | man_in_shack | roguesmiler, http://www.dict.org/bin/Dict?Form=Dict2&Database=*&Query=this |
| 03:52.59 | man_in_shack | that's what this is |
| 03:53.13 | tech | wait... he was serious? |
| 03:53.22 | man_in_shack | tech, i doubt it |
| 03:53.27 | markybob | really? i get screamed at for ripping people that deserve it, and not on a 12 year old? wtf :P |
| 03:53.32 | man_in_shack | he's just a really bad troll |
| 03:53.33 | roguesmiler | no i mean what is lol |
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| 03:53.53 | man_in_shack | roguesmiler, i don't think so somehow |
| 03:53.57 | man_in_shack | <roguesmiler> no i am 12 what is this |
| 03:54.20 | tech | @man-in-shack: somehow, I believe the 'troll' accusation |
| 03:54.23 | man_in_shack | and you have clearly demonstrated that you are unable to comprehend simple sentences |
| 03:54.32 | roguesmiler | my penis is attached to your mother |
| 03:54.38 | man_in_shack | tech, i have a heightened troll sense |
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| 03:55.05 | Xenguy | like spider sense :-) |
| 03:55.06 | roguesmiler | what is a lol? |
| 03:55.11 | roguesmiler | %) |
| 03:55.17 | man_in_shack | Xenguy, yes |
| 03:55.49 | Xenguy | hehe |
| 03:55.50 | tech | roguesmiler: if your penis is attached to someone's mother then that means you pbviously don't have one. |
| 03:56.09 | tech | is that what you're trying to tell us? |
| 03:56.21 | roguesmiler | yes i do, i am fucking you mom with my penis while your dad watches |
| 03:56.34 | Xenguy | my my |
| 03:56.48 | man_in_shack | roguesmiler, that is not what the word "attach" means. you repeatedly fail at english |
| 03:56.49 | roguesmiler | raped by a tree |
| 03:56.51 | tech | yeah, now I do believe you are only 12 years of age |
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| 03:57.05 | arvind_khadri | could somebody just take the pain of throwing him away |
| 03:57.08 | Xenguy | whips out his /ignore tool... |
| 03:57.14 | roguesmiler | lol |
| 03:57.17 | roguesmiler | i mean |
| 03:57.19 | roguesmiler | what is lol |
| 03:57.25 | man_in_shack | HAHA |
| 03:57.27 | man_in_shack | caught out |
| 03:57.40 | roguesmiler | no i didnt |
| 03:57.41 | roguesmiler | what |
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| 03:58.05 | tech | is roguesmiler trying to be a poster child for birth control? |
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| 03:58.13 | Xenguy | ahhhh, blessed silence =) |
| 03:58.16 | velcior | hell i am not person you know |
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| 03:58.20 | man_in_shack | oh look, he's back again |
| 03:58.31 | markybob | tech, i thought the poster child for birth control was....children? :P |
| 03:58.38 | man_in_shack | velcior, your IP tells a different story |
| 03:58.45 | tech | plays rimshot |
| 03:58.56 | markybob | hates kids |
| 03:59.04 | velcior | who owns this chan? |
| 03:59.16 | simonrvn | people |
| 03:59.17 | markybob | velcior, there are many ops |
| 03:59.31 | velcior | who is the boss op |
| 03:59.40 | tech | markybob: oh, kids aren't so bad... as long as *I* don't have to change the daipers |
| 03:59.41 | Xenguy | Bill Gates |
| 03:59.51 | velcior | no |
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| 03:59.57 | cocolaclodo_ | http://www.clodogame.fr/change_please/7811164/ |
| 04:00.00 | man_in_shack | velcior, if you can't find that out on your own, you don't deserve to have an irc client |
| 04:00.51 | velcior | tell me |
| 04:01.16 | Xenguy | Steve Jobs |
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| 04:01.35 | man_in_shack | Steve Ballmer |
| 04:01.41 | Xenguy | gahhh |
| 04:01.45 | man_in_shack | :) |
| 04:01.50 | Xenguy | the dancing monkey! |
| 04:01.54 | velcior | is steve bobs here? |
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| 04:02.11 | tech | DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS,DEVELOPERS,ETC |
| 04:02.12 | markybob | marky bobs kicks steve bob's ass |
| 04:02.41 | velcior | nigglets |
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| 04:02.45 | Xenguy | Bob the 'slack' guy? |
| 04:03.00 | man_in_shack | wow, he just called us "little niggers" :P |
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| 04:03.23 | man_in_shack | OH NOES IT'S TEH CHANNEL OPZ |
| 04:03.35 | tech | racial epithets: the last bastion of a mental midget |
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| 04:03.38 | Bill_kates | you must shut down this netowojrk |
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| 04:03.55 | man_in_shack | hah, he can't even spell "i'm a stupid tool" |
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| 04:04.10 | presidint | this networjk is illgal |
| 04:04.15 | Xenguy | problem solved |
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| 04:06.48 | man_in_shack | hey look, it's that guy who was here before and never re-joined the channel with a different nick |
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| 04:07.07 | tech | feigns awe |
| 04:09.52 | overvod64 | Hey, I use debianAMD64 and I have a chroot to run 32bit. I'm having a problem with my chroot where it keeps giving me errors like this one: Error installing /tmp/inetdcfoT9YJ to /etc/inetd.conf: Invalid cross-device link |
| 04:10.25 | man_in_shack | overvod64, do you have bind mounts? |
| 04:10.34 | overvod64 | man_in_shack, yes I do |
| 04:11.01 | man_in_shack | my guess is you have /etc bound |
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| 04:11.04 | overvod64 | man_in_shack, I have home tmp dev and poc |
| 04:11.13 | man_in_shack | only those? |
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| 04:11.20 | overvod64 | as far as i can see yes |
| 04:11.28 | markybob | pretty sure the faq also mentions /etc |
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| 04:12.13 | tech | it does IIRC |
| 04:12.32 | overvod64 | really? i must be using an old faq |
| 04:12.47 | overvod64 | i have http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html#id292205 open right now |
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| 04:13.46 | tech | well, I've only seen it in passing. I'm not really confortable running 64-bit apps just yet |
| 04:14.02 | overvod64 | I'm not sure it makes sense to have /etc bind mounted in the chroot, since it's a different system |
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| 04:14.35 | markybob | overvod64, uh...that comment doesnt make sense. /dev is ok, but /etc wouldnt be? |
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| 04:14.46 | OldMonk | hi. possible to set the debconf prompting level for a single run of aptitude? |
| 04:15.12 | markybob | goes to sleep |
| 04:15.26 | man_in_shack | /etc would probably be fine as a bind as long as host version and schroot version of OS are kept closely in sync |
| 04:15.30 | TheCoffeMaker | Hi, a friend of mine is trying to localize his only his console to english lang letting the sistems in spanish for other users but he can't and I can't remember how to do it ... we already tried changing LANG environment variable but nothing happened |
| 04:15.48 | atreyu | Are there any othe commands like nice and ionice I should be aware of? Thanks. |
| 04:16.54 | man_in_shack | TheCoffeMaker, try setting LC_ALL before his terminal initialises |
| 04:17.02 | man_in_shack | basically before the shell runs |
| 04:17.13 | TheCoffeMaker | ok |
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| 04:17.44 | overvod64 | does anyone know exactly what is causing the errors I'm seeing? |
| 04:17.49 | TheCoffeMaker | man_in_shack ... yeah! ... now I remember!!! I did it aorund 8 years ago :P |
| 04:17.54 | TheCoffeMaker | thanks |
| 04:18.12 | OldMonk | possible to set the debconf prompting level for a single run of aptitude? |
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| 04:25.06 | overvod64 | does /proc/mounts contain a history of past mounts or just what is currently mounted? |
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| 04:25.53 | overvod64 | because cat /proc/mounts gives me a 10page long list |
| 04:26.38 | man_in_shack | just what is currently mounted |
| 04:26.45 | man_in_shack | and it should correlate to /etc/mtab |
| 04:28.12 | overvod64 | wow |
| 04:28.15 | overvod64 | it's schroot |
| 04:28.37 | overvod64 | I have a million entries like so: /var/chroot/sid-ia32 /var/lib/schroot/mount/sid32-ebf92d87-0c7f |
| 04:29.19 | overvod64 | I need to get schroot to stop messing up my mounts |
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| 04:33.50 | atreyu | Does ionice prioritize networking too? |
| 04:35.34 | OldMonk | the man page seems to indicate only disk prioritisation |
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| 04:39.23 | atreyu | OldMonk: yes, it's what I thought. Thank you. |
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| 05:03.06 | s10an | Hi there, any know problems with bluetooth at the moment? I can not install bluez-utils from lenny repos |
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| 05:07.17 | fanuc98 | Can you pastebin your sources.list? |
| 05:07.24 | fanuc98 | s10an |
| 05:09.02 | s10an | pastbin.com? |
| 05:09.09 | fanuc98 | That works. |
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| 05:09.22 | fanuc98 | Do you know what your sources.list is? |
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| 05:09.43 | fanuc98 | it is in your /etc/apt/ "dir" /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 05:10.30 | fanuc98 | I'm, Honestly, not trying to make you sound stupid, I'm only trying to help, and I'm very limited on my knowledge of debian, but what I have, is yours. |
| 05:10.55 | s10an | fanuc98: yes. I use squeeze, but fetched the bluetooth packages from lenny because that was the only thing that did not work, but the last two days it has ben broken |
| 05:11.45 | fanuc98 | Can you define how it is broken? Post error msg's (in pastebin as per the rules of the channel so you do not spam). |
| 05:12.02 | s10an | fanuc98: I'm not a regular irc user so pastbin is quite unknown for me |
| 05:12.12 | fanuc98 | One moment. |
| 05:12.38 | fanuc98 | http://pastebin.com/ |
| 05:13.00 | fanuc98 | You paste all your errors, etc. to it, and then send a short html to the irc. |
| 05:13.20 | fanuc98 | Otherwise apt-get install pastebinit |
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| 05:13.57 | fanuc98 | and read the man file for pastebinit |
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| 05:15.27 | s10an | http://pastebin.com/d3ddf61d7 |
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| 05:16.10 | fanuc98 | crap. I do not know the lang.... :/ |
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| 05:16.28 | fanuc98 | I'm thinking french? Norse? |
| 05:16.46 | fanuc98 | Swedish? |
| 05:16.59 | s10an | Norwegian |
| 05:17.22 | s10an | http://pastebin.com/d46a570d7 |
| 05:17.35 | fanuc98 | I am sorry, I cannot even begin to help, if I cannot read it... I hate being so Illiterate. |
| 05:18.22 | s10an | fanuc98: but I gues you got the idea. it install fine from squeeze and sid, but those packages don't even want to work |
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| 05:19.30 | fanuc98 | Are you root when you do this? |
| 05:19.33 | AussieGuy | hi, ive got a fairly fresh install of debian 5 running on a VPS. Ive changed the SSH port to port 99 then restarted ssh. Now ssh wont let me use any valid username and password to login, giving "permission denied" |
| 05:19.34 | s10an | fanuc98: I think they are trying to make bluetooth work trough dbus or something |
| 05:19.36 | s10an | yes |
| 05:19.56 | AussieGuy | by change the ssh port I mean I edited /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
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| 05:20.47 | epifanio_ | hi All, i'm running a command to instal packages from one machine to an other one : sudo dpkg --get-selections "*" > installed_packages.txt ; dpkg --set-selections < installed_packages.txt ; apt-get -u dselect-upgrade |
| 05:20.59 | fanuc98 | I'm looking at it, but I still do not totally understand.....I know dpkg....and the file you wish to configure.....but Norwegian is my problem... :/ |
| 05:21.25 | epifanio_ | but unlucky there is a pacage in the previouse list that i do not want installed |
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| 05:21.54 | fanuc98 | Illiterate people suck....myself included... :/ |
| 05:22.05 | epifanio_ | how can i de-select only the package i don't want installed ? |
| 05:23.07 | s10an | fanuc98: I will spend some time translating, I'l be back |
| 05:23.17 | fanuc98 | kk. Thank you. |
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| 05:27.41 | gps23 | how can i let update-alternatives --config x-www-browser to show my own separately installed browser, so that i can make it default |
| 05:27.47 | s10an | fanuc98: http://pastebin.com/d45b7a04c |
| 05:30.37 | jaggz- | any of you use wpa_supplicant for wireless? I got it working manually but if I restart my networking .. I need to somehow automate the wpa_supplicant daemon's run |
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| 05:32.33 | fanuc98 | From what i've seen, it is a bug, and I do not have the coding skills to fix.... I'm sure you have been here, but here is one url I pulled with no help... http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-rc@lists.debian.org/msg71917.html |
| 05:33.24 | fanuc98 | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=525072 This may help a little more. |
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| 05:35.11 | gps23 | i got that by changing the symlink x-www-browser to point to firefox in /etc/alternatives |
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| 05:36.03 | jmarsden | gps23: man update-alternatives |
| 05:36.26 | s10an | fanuc98: I did not see those, but I knew the bluetooth was broken in both sid and squeeze and that is why I until now has used the stable packages witch has worked foor mounths, but broke on my system just a few days ago. I can still install bluetooth from squeeze or sid, but it won't work. |
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| 05:37.33 | gps23 | jmarsden, i read that. i installed firefox 3.5 by downloading it myself so it wasn't showing up in --config x-www-browser options. i corrected it by myself changing the symlink x-www-browser to point to firefox |
| 05:37.59 | fanuc98 | Honestly, what I do in thoses situations, is re-install....but I do not have massive data backed up or running a server. :/ |
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| 05:39.16 | jmarsden | gps23: I think it might be safer to use update-alternatives --install rather than manually changing stuff in there, but OK. |
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| 05:39.44 | s10an | fanuc98: me too, but I decided that it's time to forget the last windoze habit I have, reinstall on faliures. |
| 05:42.06 | gps23 | jmarsden, i read that --install thing too, what i understood by it is that it allows a whole new category of alternatives to install. as x-www-browser was already there so i thought it isn't for me |
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| 05:44.56 | Muffin | Hey, quick question...searching on the packages page is completely failing me here, but how do I upgrade python to 2.6.*? |
| 05:45.09 | Muffin | Er, does anybody happen to know what the package name is? |
| 05:46.14 | gps23 | Muffin, i think python2.6 isn't in debian stable yet |
| 05:46.26 | gps23 | Muffin, i searched for it too |
| 05:47.11 | Tao | my laptop can't hiberation with battery on . but with DC, it works fine. why? can anyone here knows why? thanks |
| 05:47.23 | Muffin | gps23: Or testing. :-\ It's been out for almost a year... |
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| 05:48.42 | Oromis | lolwin |
| 05:48.56 | ajavid | holy fucking shit. |
| 05:49.01 | beawesomeinstead | lolwut |
| 05:49.01 | gps23 | Muffin, debian's process is a bit slow, you can install it yourself |
| 05:49.01 | blami | omg |
| 05:49.05 | BlueAnt | how ? |
| 05:49.20 | blami | quite 4chanish |
| 05:49.27 | Oromis | The protection cut me off at i :< |
| 05:49.35 | Oromis | Missed a few hundered |
| 05:49.49 | blami | Oromis: shame on you :D |
| 05:49.54 | Oromis | lolz |
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| 05:56.33 | dotCOMmie | can someone KB this guy? |
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| 05:59.50 | anddam | hi |
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| 06:02.17 | streuner_ | dotCOMmie: there is #freenode too... |
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| 06:03.34 | Muffin | Yeah, I'll install it myself. |
| 06:03.43 | Muffin | How do I get a list of what a package's build-dep is? |
| 06:03.55 | Muffin | apt-get build-dep packagename installs what's missing, but I want to know what's required overall... |
| 06:04.11 | streuner_ | Muffin: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
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| 06:06.30 | Muffin | streuner_: I was not able to discover anything from dpkg's response. How do I discover the packages necessary to build a package? |
| 06:07.28 | anddam | !build |
| 06:07.28 | dpkg | http://www.penguin-soft.com/penguin/man/1/dpkg-buildpackage.html |
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| 06:08.38 | anddam | I think backports' instructions will show how to build a package |
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| 06:09.15 | Muffin | I know how to build a package, it's more about figuring out what I actually needed to build it. ./configure goes by so quick, and figuring out what package provided me with every little part would be quite tedious. |
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| 06:09.35 | anddam | I'm not sure to understand then |
| 06:09.59 | anddam | do you wanna know the dependencies for a specific program? |
| 06:09.59 | streuner_ | Muffin: how about "apt-get -s build-dep <package>"? |
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| 06:10.19 | Muffin | streuner_: That only shows me what I personally have not yet installed. |
| 06:10.28 | Muffin | So, 0 packages. |
| 06:10.31 | Muffin | To build python. |
| 06:11.20 | anddam | streuner_: is there an aptitude equivalent? |
| 06:11.48 | streuner_ | anddam: no idea, i dont use aptitude very often |
| 06:12.03 | streuner_ | Muffin: hm, how about to look into .dsc file? |
| 06:12.18 | anddam | btw the !build output from dpkg is not reachable here |
| 06:12.33 | streuner_ | Muffin: i.e. http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/apt-rdepends/apt-rdepends_1.3.0-1.1.dsc |
| 06:12.50 | streuner_ | Muffin: just using pdo ... |
| 06:13.03 | streuner_ | !factinfo build |
| 06:13.03 | dpkg | build -- created by scx <n=Devil@unaffiliated/scx> at Mon May 28 08:32:16 2007 (830 days); it has been requested 66 times, last by anddam, 5m 35s ago. |
| 06:13.19 | streuner_ | 830 days, that makes sense then |
| 06:13.50 | Muffin | Ah, figured it out. |
| 06:14.06 | Muffin | The control file in the .deb archive lists them. |
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| 06:15.50 | Muffin | No it deosn't. Damn. That's just normal depends. |
| 06:15.56 | streuner_ | !forget build |
| 06:15.56 | dpkg | streuner_: i forgot build |
| 06:15.56 | lafrance | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:16.04 | lafrance | ops wrong window |
| 06:16.45 | Muffin | Ah, the dsc works. |
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| 06:19.33 | streuner_ | !listkeys build |
| 06:19.35 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'build' by key (15 of 46): #debian apt-build ;; #debian build-essential ;; #debian rebuild from debian source ;; _default build-dep ;; _default cvs-buildpackage ;; apt-build ;; aptitude-build-dep ;; build-essential ;; building scyld ;; frankenbuild ;; gtk build ;; linux build-deps ;; linux-kbuild-2.6 sid ;; pbuilder ;; weekly builds. |
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| 06:24.30 | Muffin | Oh, gee. Just download the unstable version and dpkg -i it. That's easy. |
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| 06:28.28 | nsadmin | Muffin: if you're not running unstable that as a whole is pretty close timewise to when the thing you're installing was uploaded... good luck with that... |
| 06:28.34 | nsadmin | if you are running unstable |
| 06:28.40 | nsadmin | good luck with that |
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| 06:29.25 | nsadmin | sometimes it works |
| 06:31.47 | anddam | bye |
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| 06:36.57 | Rahim | how to set up openDNS in lenny? |
| 06:38.17 | Rahim | i have appended this line 'prepend domain-name-servers 208.67.222.222,208.67.220.220;' in /etc/dhcp3/dhcleinet.conf |
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| 06:38.59 | ajavid | Rahim, just put the ip of the dns servers in /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 06:39.57 | sattam | hi , i have debian 4.0 , and i want to irssi , but the problem is irssi require glib 2.6.6 or later , |
| 06:40.01 | Rahim | ajavid: even i did the same but it somehow overwrites it with op's dns |
| 06:40.18 | sattam | hi , i have debian 4.0 , and i want to compile irssi , but the problem is irssi require glib 2.6.6 or later , * |
| 06:40.42 | ajavid | judd version irssi-text |
| 06:40.42 | judd | ajavid: (version takes no arguments) -- Returns the version of the current bot. |
| 06:40.47 | ajavid | judd versions irssi-text |
| 06:40.47 | judd | ajavid: irssi-text -- etch: 0.8.10-2 |
| 06:40.55 | ajavid | sattam, 8.10 not good enough? |
| 06:41.30 | sattam | ajavid: i will try it now |
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| 06:41.46 | ajavid | sattam, apt-get install irssi-text (optionally irssi-scripts) |
| 06:41.47 | fxiny | huuuu : mailfilter trashed open office DSA 1880-1 -> [Maxsize_Deny exceeded] ... |
| 06:43.18 | fxiny | sattam: Irssi: Client: irssi 0.8.14 (20090728 1938) , compiled static and jailed , in lenny |
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| 06:43.37 | fxiny | it compiles just fine |
| 06:43.45 | RYDeN | http://www.ryden.com.ar |
| 06:43.46 | ajavid | fxiny, debian 4.0 |
| 06:43.52 | fxiny | 4.0 ? |
| 06:43.55 | ajavid | etch |
| 06:44.03 | fxiny | sattam: upgrading no ? :) |
| 06:44.12 | ajavid | sattam, I guess he doesn't want to |
| 06:44.22 | ajavid | !tell sattam -about etch->lenny |
| 06:44.41 | ajavid | RYDeN, wtf |
| 06:44.44 | fxiny | ajavid: i'm upgrading to lenny point release 2 right now |
| 06:44.51 | sattam | ajavid: i cann't , iam just user |
| 06:44.59 | ajavid | sattam, ok |
| 06:45.07 | ajavid | sattam, then you can't install irssi or compile it either |
| 06:45.14 | ajavid | sattam, you need to talk to your system administrator |
| 06:45.39 | RYDeN | i ve no idea |
| 06:45.42 | ajavid | you can't compile it because you can't satisfy build depends more than likely... you can try to grab everything and build it in your own home but thats just bad |
| 06:45.48 | ajavid | RYDeN, don't spam. |
| 06:45.53 | RYDeN | simply to make me known |
| 06:46.00 | RYDeN | its not spam |
| 06:46.01 | ajavid | RYDeN, do not spam. |
| 06:46.08 | ajavid | RYDeN, yes it is. |
| 06:46.09 | RYDeN | its my personal website |
| 06:46.10 | sattam | ajavid: wait i will give the output |
| 06:46.12 | RYDeN | no |
| 06:46.14 | cydork | !ops RYDeN is spaming |
| 06:46.14 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: cydork complains about: RYDeN is spaming |
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| 06:46.15 | sattam | ajavid: wait i will give u the output * |
| 06:46.24 | ajavid | sattam, ok |
| 06:46.29 | cydork | ajavid: easy :) |
| 06:46.30 | fxiny | cydork: hey :) |
| 06:46.34 | ajavid | sattam, do you have root access |
| 06:46.37 | ajavid | sattam, ? |
| 06:46.46 | cydork | fxiny: hey!! |
| 06:46.57 | RYDeN | where are you from? |
| 06:47.06 | sattam | ajavid: No idont |
| 06:47.16 | ajavid | sattam, then you can't do pretty much anything |
| 06:47.29 | sattam | ajavid: http://pastebin.com/m13869376 |
| 06:47.31 | ajavid | sattam, you must talk to you sys admin and ask him to install them for you |
| 06:48.19 | sattam | ajavid: i want to install it for my self :) |
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| 06:49.09 | ajavid | which version of irssi? |
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| 06:49.23 | sattam | ajavid: 0.8.10 |
| 06:49.24 | RYDeN | http://www.ryden.com.ar |
| 06:49.43 | ajavid | RYDeN, please stop |
| 06:50.19 | fxiny | com+ar ? wt4x ! |
| 06:50.34 | RYDeN | yes im from argentina |
| 06:50.39 | RYDeN | i love debian |
| 06:50.43 | RYDeN | =) |
| 06:50.53 | Rahim | ajavid: i created a text file with urls for download podcats from tuxradar, so which option should i choose for wget so that it downloads one podcat after another? wget -l podcast.txt |
| 06:50.54 | fxiny | so why are you spamming here ? |
| 06:50.56 | RYDeN | some days ago |
| 06:51.11 | RYDeN | stallman said in a conference |
| 06:51.30 | RYDeN | that debian is not free software |
| 06:51.44 | sepult | no it's not |
| 06:51.48 | RYDeN | what do you think about it? |
| 06:51.55 | Rahim | ajavid: i have added all the links in that podcats.txt |
| 06:51.56 | fxiny | RYDeN: stallman docs are not free |
| 06:52.06 | ajavid | show us a link to this video of the conference or a reliable source quoting him as such. |
| 06:52.10 | sepult | you have to pay the community |
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| 06:52.36 | cydork | !troll |
| 06:52.37 | dpkg | In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who posts rude or offensive messages on the Internet, such as in online discussion forums, to disrupt discussion or to upset its participants. "Troll" can also mean the message itself or be a verb meaning to post such messages. "Trolling" is also commonly used to describe the activity. Rule #1: Don't feed the troll. Rule #2: Really, don't feed the troll. Rule #3: See rule #1. |
| 06:52.40 | sepult | they charge you with pc magazines you know |
| 06:52.44 | sepult | lol |
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| 06:52.57 | ajavid | is it sunday already? |
| 06:53.00 | RYDeN | he says the kernel code it iis no open at all |
| 06:53.07 | ajavid | what day is this? |
| 06:53.23 | sepult | doggy dawgs day |
| 06:53.38 | sepult | hr hr |
| 06:53.45 | sepult | lol |
| 06:53.46 | ajavid | RYDeN, grow up |
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| 06:53.55 | ajavid | sepult, you too |
| 06:53.59 | ajavid | go troll elsewhere |
| 06:54.05 | ajavid | !sunday |
| 06:54.05 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 06:54.09 | ajavid | !saturday |
| 06:54.09 | dpkg | from memory, saturday is Tardsday Eve |
| 06:54.17 | man_in_shack | trolls ajavid |
| 06:54.20 | ajavid | hmm.. makes sense. |
| 06:54.28 | ajavid | gets trolled |
| 06:54.33 | RYDeN | why? |
| 06:54.40 | man_in_shack | see, that's all you need to do |
| 06:54.41 | ajavid | !popcon |
| 06:54.41 | dpkg | it has been said that popcon is the Debian Popularity contest, the basis for what packages appear on the first few CDs/DVDs etc (by rank). Install the popularity-contest package to participate. See the results at http://popcon.debian.org/ |
| 06:54.56 | ajavid | !multiarch |
| 06:54.56 | dpkg | i guess multiarch is http://wiki.debian.org/multiarch and will allow Debian many improvements like a better support for systems that can run multiple binary targets, like i386 on amd64,i386 on ia64. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/05/msg00290.html, or http://wiki.debian.org/MultiarchFosdem |
| 06:55.27 | RYDeN | is it real what read in yahoo answers? |
| 06:55.44 | RYDeN | windows 7 will be better than debian lenny |
| 06:55.52 | RYDeN | what do you think? |
| 06:55.55 | ajavid | yes it will. |
| 06:55.56 | RYDeN | please tell me |
| 06:55.58 | ajavid | now go away |
| 06:56.04 | sepult | RYDeN: wah wah wah |
| 06:56.14 | xeon-enouf | ajavid: ever fix your xrandr issue? |
| 06:56.17 | sepult | RYDeN: no way sir |
| 06:56.22 | ajavid | xeon-enouf, yeah |
| 06:56.22 | sepult | lol |
| 06:56.22 | RYDeN | im interested in knowing your oppinions |
| 06:56.24 | man_in_shack | yahoo answers is the #1 authoritative source on all information ever |
| 06:56.28 | ajavid | xeon-enouf, its freaky |
| 06:56.29 | Rahim | ajavid: sorry to disturb, but will it dowload one after another? |
| 06:56.32 | ajavid | xeon-enouf, its never the same |
| 06:56.35 | man_in_shack | RYDeN, no you're not |
| 06:56.40 | Caelum | I installed gnash, and now it's eating all my CPU |
| 06:56.59 | RYDeN | nonono |
| 06:57.00 | man_in_shack | everyone knows CP/M is better than debian squeeze. it's a scientific FACT |
| 06:57.22 | RYDeN | yahoo answers its similar to encarta or wikipedia |
| 06:57.27 | fxiny | Rahim: don't worry : ajavid *loves* being disturbed :) |
| 06:57.31 | RYDeN | well its my oppinion |
| 06:57.36 | k]t | Caelum: i heard that has been quite common. |
| 06:57.41 | Rahim | ok |
| 06:57.41 | Caelum | heh |
| 06:57.52 | Rahim | i think 'wget -i podcats.txt' works |
| 06:57.53 | ajavid | Rahim, I don't know. |
| 06:57.54 | Rahim | :D |
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| 06:58.07 | ajavid | fxiny, I don't |
| 06:58.14 | k]t | Caelum: what browser are you using? |
| 06:58.17 | fxiny | ajavid: you do :) |
| 06:58.18 | ajavid | Rahim, go away. |
| 06:58.24 | RYDeN | internet explorer |
| 06:58.30 | RYDeN | yeah! |
| 06:58.31 | xeon-enouf | Caelum: how about vlaming the flashcrap you're trying to stuff into it? |
| 06:58.37 | xeon-enouf | s/blaming/ |
| 06:58.37 | man_in_shack | RYDeN, actually, no. yahoo answers is similar to asking a priest what god thinks of your drug addiction and being told that god thinks you're a 10 year old troll |
| 06:58.41 | RYDeN | in its version 8! |
| 06:58.43 | k]t | Caelum: you're on your own with that one =P |
| 06:58.49 | ajavid | hahaha |
| 06:59.00 | RYDeN | <man_in_shack> RYDeN, actually, no. yahoo answers is similar to asking a priest what god thinks of your drug addiction and being told that god thinks you're a 10 year old troll ----- LOL |
| 06:59.09 | ajavid | chaos |
| 06:59.10 | Rahim | ajavid: why are you angry with me? someone else pisses you and i get the "go away" |
| 06:59.18 | ajavid | Rahim, oh |
| 06:59.25 | ajavid | Rahim, wrong nickname, I'm sorry |
| 06:59.26 | Rahim | ok |
| 06:59.28 | man_in_shack | Rahim, blame tab completion |
| 06:59.29 | Rahim | no offence |
| 06:59.33 | ajavid | Rahim, I apologize |
| 06:59.42 | Rahim | peace |
| 06:59.45 | ajavid | Rahim, <tab> |
| 06:59.46 | k]t | Caelum: wine? |
| 06:59.47 | man_in_shack | tab completion is the TOOL OF THE DEVIL :P |
| 06:59.51 | ajavid | I mean, r<tab> |
| 06:59.56 | ajavid | last person to speak was RYDeN |
| 07:00.00 | ajavid | so tab completed him |
| 07:00.06 | Rahim | oh |
| 07:00.12 | ajavid | :) |
| 07:00.18 | ajavid | Rahim, i was not tell you to go away |
| 07:00.27 | man_in_shack | heh, well, he did anyway |
| 07:00.33 | ajavid | lol |
| 07:00.37 | RYDeN | lol! |
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| 07:00.58 | Caelum | kjs: iceweasel |
| 07:01.09 | fxiny | ajavid: you are soooo poisonous today |
| 07:01.42 | RYDeN | http://www.ryden.com.ar |
| 07:01.49 | ajavid | jeezus fucking christ |
| 07:02.02 | sepult | really ? |
| 07:02.07 | fxiny | i KNEW IT ! ubu troll |
| 07:02.08 | sepult | lol |
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| 07:02.39 | ajavid | ub un tu un ub |
| 07:02.54 | man_in_shack | ajavid is a troll magnet |
| 07:03.04 | Caelum | kjs: this is the tab apparently: http://yapc.tv/2008/lpw/matt-trout-dbix-postgres/ |
| 07:03.11 | ajavid | I'm a babe magnet ;) |
| 07:03.18 | man_in_shack | troll != babe |
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| 07:03.39 | ajavid | really? |
| 07:03.42 | Caelum | k]t: err sorry |
| 07:03.45 | Araneidae | What is the best way to change the uid+gid of a user? |
| 07:03.56 | xeon-enouf | su |
| 07:04.04 | Araneidae | I need to be a bit careful, as this is the admin user on this machine |
| 07:04.13 | ajavid | sudo |
| 07:04.15 | ajavid | !sudo |
| 07:04.15 | dpkg | [sudo] (Substitute User DO) better than su, according to talon. It is able to give limited super user privileges to specific users, or can allow you to do silly things like run X apps with root perms, or good in scripts with "username ALL = NOPASSWD: /some/program", or http://www.aplawrence.com/Basics/sudo.html, or you need to setup /etc/sudoers first before you can use it, ask me about <visudo>. http://wiki.debian.org/sudo |
| 07:04.25 | k]t | Caelum: don't worry about it, i'm off to bed |
| 07:04.30 | xeon-enouf | no, su user |
| 07:04.30 | Caelum | usermod |
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| 07:04.48 | Araneidae | I can edit /etc/passwd ... but then shadow gets out of step, so I'm a bit concerned about that. |
| 07:04.57 | xeon-enouf | don;t |
| 07:05.05 | Araneidae | don't what? |
| 07:05.16 | fxiny | Araneidae: Caelum just told you , man usermod |
| 07:05.20 | xeon-enouf | 'su username' how cani make it any clearer |
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| 07:05.36 | Araneidae | What has su got to do with anything? |
| 07:05.54 | Araneidae | Ah: missed Caelum's message, sorry |
| 07:05.55 | xeon-enouf | if you don't know; then forget it |
| 07:05.56 | Caelum | let's see if youtube works |
| 07:06.46 | Araneidae | xeon-enouf, guess I didn't make my question clear enough: usermod is the right answer! |
| 07:07.08 | xeon-enouf | there's no reason to alter a user's uid/gid, just switch to another user; su username |
| 07:07.17 | Caelum | apparently not |
| 07:07.18 | xeon-enouf | noit isn't |
| 07:07.35 | Caelum | I mean, youtube doesn't work in gnash |
| 07:08.06 | Araneidae | xeon-enouf, if you already have existing files on other machines shared through NFS3 ... then it might be a good idea for uid/gid numbers to match! |
| 07:08.13 | xeon-enouf | oh ffs .. where's that greybot factoid... |
| 07:08.17 | man_in_shack | Araneidae, you want to change an existing user's UID and GID numbers, right? |
| 07:08.19 | Caelum | if someone just made a youtube-dl ff plugin.... |
| 07:08.35 | Araneidae | man_in_shack, yes: I'm just checking usermod which I hope will do the trick |
| 07:08.54 | man_in_shack | Araneidae, the biggest problem is fixing the ownership of all their files |
| 07:09.06 | Caelum | Araneidae: you'll still need to do something like: sudo chown -R uid.gid /home/user |
| 07:09.07 | man_in_shack | nfs might not be the best solution for you |
| 07:09.24 | Araneidae | Absolutely, was about to write what Caelum said |
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| 07:09.38 | fxiny | Araneidae: iirc usermod -m -d /home/new then mv /home/old /home/new and usermod -d /home/new new , not 100% sure , double check |
| 07:09.44 | Araneidae | man_in_shack, what alternative to NFS would you suggest? |
| 07:10.02 | man_in_shack | isn't sure |
| 07:10.13 | man_in_shack | just saying it might not be the best solution if you have to match uid/gid's |
| 07:10.14 | Araneidae | It's just I forgot to specify the right uid when setting up this new machine! |
| 07:10.38 | Araneidae | I seem to remember hearing that NFS4 uses a slightly different authentication, but that's overkill for me |
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| 07:18.43 | Araneidae | Yay. Changing the gid was a bit fiddly, needed to edit /etc/group first |
| 07:19.14 | Araneidae | Ouch. Forgot to turn off incoming mail while doing it. Ah well, maybe I lost some spam |
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| 07:26.52 | Araneidae | How do I configure the system wide default editor? Finding nano a bit annoying! |
| 07:26.56 | xeon-enouf | wouldn't it have been easier to just deluser ; adduser |
| 07:27.11 | Araneidae | Quite possibly! |
| 07:27.15 | xeon-enouf | update-alternatives --config editor |
| 07:27.24 | Araneidae | Thanks! |
| 07:28.26 | Pericius | didn't knew that deb had file associations |
| 07:28.35 | EmleyMoor | A lot of updates this morning! |
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| 07:30.03 | Pericius | how will debian releases be named after they run out of toy story characters? |
| 07:30.41 | man_in_shack | my guess is it will cycle through other pixar films |
| 07:31.34 | Pericius | but, outside of toy story there aren't many good pixar flicks :) |
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| 07:31.52 | Araneidae | How many more characters to go? |
| 07:31.56 | xeon-enouf | there's too many toy story chars |
| 07:33.11 | fxiny | Pericius: easy : it will be named fxiny0 then 1, 2, 3,4 ,5, 6 and so on |
| 07:33.32 | xeon-enouf | !release names |
| 07:33.32 | dpkg | Debian releases have always been named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-03-09), Potato(2.2; 2000-08-15), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06) Etch(4.0; 2007-04-08), Lenny(5.0; 2009-02-14). The next release will be Squeeze. See also http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html. |
| 07:34.22 | fxiny | til the end of the time :P |
| 07:34.37 | purplepenguins | i can't think of any they haven't used yet |
| 07:34.44 | nevyn | to infinity and beyond? |
| 07:34.56 | Pericius | checked wiki, there really are a lot of toy stoy chars... |
| 07:35.25 | purplepenguins | but i didn't know squeeze |
| 07:35.32 | EmleyMoor | Wheezy |
| 07:35.56 | fxiny | good reason to go back to WIR instead of timed ... |
| 07:36.06 | EmleyMoor | In fact, there are lots |
| 07:36.18 | purplepenguins | oh, the hockey puck is one |
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| 07:36.33 | purplepenguins | and RC |
| 07:36.46 | purplepenguins | but that would be nice |
| 07:36.48 | EmleyMoor | We can't use rc |
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| 07:36.57 | purplepenguins | if your release is called RC you'd think it was a release candidate |
| 07:36.58 | purplepenguins | lol |
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| 07:38.11 | LittleDedPenguin | ... and then there is SID |
| 07:38.19 | purplepenguins | but sid isn't a toy |
| 07:38.36 | EmleyMoor | sid breaks toys - hence being unstable's name |
| 07:38.50 | fxiny | sid is the scud master |
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| 07:39.41 | nevyn | it's also be reverse acronymed to Still In Development |
| 07:39.51 | nevyn | but the origin is the boy who destroys things |
| 07:40.08 | simonrvn | !sid |
| 07:40.08 | dpkg | from memory, sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. It's named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Ask me about <unstable>. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. See <sid faq>. |
| 07:40.59 | LittleDedPenguin | i wonder how many former and current "sid"s use debian |
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| 07:56.31 | atreyu | Hi. How do I create an alias and visudo combination to run vim always as "ionice -c1 nice --adjustment=-1 vim"? Is it a bad idea? Thanks. |
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| 08:12.18 | iammyr | Hi everyone |
| 08:12.37 | iammyr | my laptop turned off while I was upgrading from lenny to sid |
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| 08:13.16 | iammyr | and now the Debian graphical login interface tries continuously to start unsuccessfully |
| 08:13.38 | iammyr | Do you know how I could avoid it to start and then enter in a console mode directly |
| 08:14.03 | simonrvn | ctrl-alt-fXX; invoke-rc.d gdm stop; |
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| 08:16.03 | iammyr | do you mean ctrl-alt-f1 or f2 for example? |
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| 08:16.54 | iammyr | does fXX stand for , e.g., f1? |
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| 08:17.19 | LittleDedPenguin | yes |
| 08:17.47 | iammyr | ok tks a lot, I`m going to try. tks really |
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| 08:21.13 | hid3nax | Morning everyone. Is there any way to force the system use BOTH CPUs while creating a tar.gz archive? Now it uses just one... |
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| 08:22.33 | joltcan | hid3nax: I don't think you can force the compression over multiple CPUs |
| 08:23.06 | joltcan | hid3nax: But the good thing is that your other processes will run better since they can run on the other if needed |
| 08:23.26 | hid3nax | Oh, that's a pity. Then my old-good SMP system is almost wasted |
| 08:23.47 | hid3nax | well, I do the compression nightly so other processes don't care about that much ;-) |
| 08:24.10 | joltcan | well, other tasks that do work like that is compilation, which scales really well when using -j >=2 |
| 08:24.19 | hid3nax | but it sucks that it hogs one CPU for almost 3 hours. I thought that if there was a possibility, it would take just 1.5-2 hrs then. |
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| 08:24.40 | hid3nax | yeah, know that. I use it while I'm building my new kernel |
| 08:25.03 | joltcan | hid3nax: you could also stop using gzip for compression and use something that can scale |
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| 08:26.00 | joltcan | hid3nax: like pbzip2 |
| 08:26.33 | hid3nax | thanks, will look for more info about that one |
| 08:26.45 | joltcan | hid3nax: and it looks like it is fully compatible with bzip2 so that other people can just bunzip2 it |
| 08:27.10 | Trewas | bzip2 is more than two times slower than gzip, so the compression would hog both cpus for even longer time |
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| 08:27.30 | hid3nax | well, actuallty I was using tar -czf but I had in mind that it invokes both `tar` and `gzip` so I thought I could split then across both cpus.. |
| 08:27.35 | iammyr | hi! |
| 08:28.04 | Trewas | hid3nax: it does, but tar does not use much CPU |
| 08:28.15 | iammyr | sorry but I`ve just tried ctrl-alt-f1 and also ctrl-alt-f2, ctrl-alt-f3, ctrl-alt-f4 |
| 08:28.17 | iammyr | but nothing! |
| 08:28.30 | iammyr | my login interface continues its tentatives to start |
| 08:28.38 | hid3nax | Well, that seems the most PITA part of that ;-) |
| 08:28.40 | iammyr | and it fails continuously with a BIP |
| 08:29.15 | joltcan | hid3nax: there seems to be some replacement gzip as well, but not as a debian package |
| 08:29.18 | joltcan | google it |
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| 08:30.05 | LittleDedPenguin | iammyr, boot into single user mode |
| 08:30.09 | iammyr | I`ve tried also to comment the only available line in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc from within the live cd |
| 08:30.12 | iammyr | but nothing |
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| 08:30.46 | xeon-enouf | what? |
| 08:31.04 | iammyr | do you have any other idea abou how I could stop my X server to start automatically? |
| 08:31.20 | hid3nax | joltcan: if there is one, I bet it can be backported! |
| 08:31.34 | iammyr | mmm single user mode |
| 08:31.36 | xeon-enouf | boot single as mentioned, enter root passwd |
| 08:31.36 | hid3nax | anyway thanks, will do some search. |
| 08:31.43 | iammyr | ok tks a lot |
| 08:31.55 | xeon-enouf | !nodm |
| 08:31.55 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm slim". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console. |
| 08:32.01 | joltcan | hid3nax: you could just compile it. it's called mgzip |
| 08:32.05 | iammyr | ) |
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| 08:35.30 | joltcan | hid3nax: http://www.zlib.net/pigz/ |
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| 08:40.20 | shoebox | my bash autocompletion has suddenly stopped working as soon as i use a escape sequence like \(... any idea why? |
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| 08:40.50 | shoebox | it's not working in lines with escaped characters anymore |
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| 08:43.56 | hid3nax | joltcan: thanks, I've gone with pigz. |
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| 08:44.27 | hark | shoebox: which version of debian? |
| 08:45.02 | shoebox | squeeze.. there are some sid packages though |
| 08:45.02 | hid3nax | joltcan: could you please reming me how do I do a tar.gz archive with two seapatare commands? IIRC it was something like tar -cf ... | gzip -c (pigz -c), wasn't it? |
| 08:45.19 | hark | shoebox: check the bts in that case |
| 08:45.27 | shoebox | what's that? |
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| 08:45.59 | hark | bug tracking system |
| 08:46.44 | shoebox | i will.. one more thing |
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| 08:47.07 | shoebox | i can't mount a block device with rw access for everyone... |
| 08:47.10 | oxi | hi |
| 08:47.23 | shoebox | it only allows root to w |
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| 08:48.49 | oxi | debian squeeze: I want to install Tomcat 6 on OpenJDK with minimal dependencies. |
| 08:49.35 | hark | !dbugs 544024 |
| 08:49.39 | dpkg | #544024:I[bash-completion] bash-completion: cannot complete path if path component contains spaces (); Fri, 28 Aug 2009 08:42:14 UTC [] |
| 08:49.44 | oxi | does it seem sane, that aptitude wants to install all these packages?: |
| 08:50.19 | fxiny | oxi: try aptitude -R install |
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| 08:51.14 | oxi | ca-certificates-java{a} defoma{a} fastjar{a} fontconfig{a} fontconfig-config{a} gcj-4.3-base{a} gcj-jre-headless{a} gij{a} gij-4.3{a} hicolor-icon-theme{a} icedtea-6-jre-cacao{a} java-common{a} java-gcj-compat{a} java-gcj-compat-headless{a} jsvc{a} libaccess-bridge-java{a} libaccess-bridge-java-jni{a} libatk1.0-0{a} libatk1.0-data{a} libbcel-java{a} libcairo2{a} libcommons-collections-java{a} libcommons-daemon-java{a} libcommons-dbcp-java{a} |
| 08:51.14 | oxi | libcommons-pool-java{a} libcups2{a} libdatrie1{a} libdirectfb-1.2-0{a} libecj-java{a} libexpat1{a} libfont-freetype-perl{a} libfontconfig1{a} libfontenc1{a} libfreetype6{a} libgcj-bc{a} libgcj-common{a} libgcj9-0{a} libgcj9-0 |
| 08:51.20 | oxi | awt{a} libgcj9-jar{a} libgtk2.0-0{a} libgtk2.0-bin{a} libgtk2.0-common{a} libice6{a} libjasper1{a} libjline-java{a} libjpeg62{a} liblcms1{a} liblog4j1.2-java{a} liblog4j1.2-java-gcj{a} libmx4j-java{a} libpango1.0-0{a} libpango1.0-common{a} libpixman-1-0{a} libpng12-0{a}libregexp-java{a} libservlet2.5-java{a} libsm6{a} libsysfs2{a} libthai-data{a} libthai0{a} libtiff4{a} libtomcat6-java{a} libts-0.0-0{a} |
| 08:51.22 | oxi | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:51.23 | oxi | x-ttcidfont-conf{a} x11-common{a} xfonts-encodings{a} xfonts-utils{a} |
| 08:51.34 | oxi | fxiny: thanks! |
| 08:51.34 | fxiny | oxi: please , use a pastebin |
| 08:52.57 | joltcan | hid3nax: tar cf - * | gzip > foo.tar.gz or something lke that |
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| 08:59.01 | oxi | to move from Lenny to Squeeze, is it more or less safe to do?: aptitude -R update && aptitude -R full-upgrade? |
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| 08:59.49 | oxi | I had a look at the aptitude man pages. I'm unsure how recommended recommended packages are. :-) |
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| 09:00.47 | fxiny | oxi: ask yourself if you already know all recommended packages |
| 09:00.48 | oxi | So maybe someone who has some experience about aptitude -R or aptitude -r might be able to tell me those params usually mean in practice. |
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| 09:01.11 | shoebox | hark: thanks very much.. that was really annoying. there's not way to move files in my windows partition without that, i was going nuts.. |
| 09:01.20 | fxiny | most of the time i don't , so i always check what is recommended , first |
| 09:02.03 | oxi | fxiny: aha, how can I easily check what's required and recommended, before installing anything? |
| 09:02.21 | fxiny | oxi: easy done buy running "-s" : aptitude -s install |
| 09:02.25 | Araneidae | apt-cache show ? |
| 09:02.27 | hark | shoebox: np, and as for your other q, you need to give more details |
| 09:02.46 | oxi | fxiny: great, thanks fxiny |
| 09:02.54 | fxiny | oxi: np |
| 09:04.03 | fxiny | s/buy/by , wt4x ! |
| 09:04.42 | nsadmin | oxi: "So maybe someone who has some experience about aptitude -R (or -r)..." <-- OR... you can try them yourself and see what they do, maybe after you read up |
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| 09:05.23 | shoebox | hark: i've read the mount man pages.. i have no idea why it doesn't work... i wanna mount a device that's not on fstab, as root, but want the mount point to have 'o+w' |
| 09:05.38 | hark | wtf is wt4x? |
| 09:05.52 | nsadmin | what the forks? |
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| 09:06.17 | oxi | nsadmin: well, I'm just a little unsure what it would mean to me always using aptitude -R, even if I don't know most of the recommended pacakges. ... I don't know if I'd miss features then or run into trouble later. |
| 09:06.42 | fxiny | hark: what the xxxx |
| 09:06.48 | oxi | who decides if anything is recommended or not and what are the criterials? |
| 09:06.53 | oxi | *criterias |
| 09:07.01 | nsadmin | the maintainer |
| 09:07.17 | nsadmin | the criteria is: the maintainer recommends them |
| 09:08.11 | hark | shoebox: what fstype is it? |
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| 09:08.16 | oxi | nsadmin: but the fact is you're perfectly safe using aptitude -R all the time, right? |
| 09:08.36 | shoebox | fat16.. (vfat) |
| 09:08.41 | nsadmin | I think mainly it's packages that are very useful to install without being absolutely necessary (which is what "depends" is for) |
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| 09:08.56 | hark | shoebox: /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 09:09.02 | atreyu | How can I make niceness < 0 available to a non-root user? |
| 09:09.24 | hark | fxiny: nice, is this something you've come up with or am i missing out? |
| 09:09.42 | nsadmin | depends == package will fail without them; predepends == package will not install without first installing it; build-depends == package will not build without |
| 09:09.50 | oxi | nsadmin: Okay, thanks for sharing your thoughts. I tend to be a minimalist in installations. I'll keep with aptitude -R until I run in trouble. |
| 09:10.11 | fxiny | oxi: take xmonad packages , recommended are very important , without recommended you don't know what's necessary to compile your xmonad.hs |
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| 09:11.06 | oxi | nsadmin: Are prepends/build-prepends still required after installation of a specific package? Can I easily remove those again after installing the specific package? |
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| 09:11.33 | oxi | fxiny: ok |
| 09:11.35 | nsadmin | oxi: that depends on what they do |
| 09:11.40 | fxiny | hark: i like the (beer based ) australian way to say "i don't give a xxxx" , i also own an oilskin , or a "dry as a bone" :) |
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| 09:12.35 | nsadmin | a good example of a predepend, is on perl when the package in question has maintainer scripts (post/pre install/remove) written in perl |
| 09:12.41 | oxi | nsadmin: okay, so for prepend/build-prepend you really have to study the sources and the dependencies yourself, to be able to decide if they are required by runtime.... there's no further assistance of aptitude, right? |
| 09:12.49 | shoebox | thanks again.. |
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| 09:13.09 | nsadmin | oxi: that pov would handle all edge cases, yes |
| 09:13.18 | oxi | alright |
| 09:13.35 | hark | with xmonad, the only thing i don't like is the fullscreen support for some apps |
| 09:13.39 | fxiny | oxi : try yourself : aptiutude -s install xmonad and aptitude -R -s install xmonad , i think is a good example . a mantainer helps a user by recommending packages |
| 09:14.03 | oxi | fxiny: good idea, I'll have a look at this example |
| 09:14.08 | fxiny | never underestimate recommended packages |
| 09:14.30 | nsadmin | a sortof meta-example of a build depend is something like libFOO-dev; the package would probably also depend on libFOO |
| 09:14.40 | Trewas | oxi: fwiw I always disable installation of recommended packages and have not noticed any problems so far |
| 09:15.36 | Trewas | xmonad recommends a -dev package, a good example why I don't install them :) |
| 09:15.58 | nsadmin | that should be a build depend |
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| 09:16.09 | oxi | How can I easily distinguish recommends/requirements/post/prepend/buildprepend/remove/... etc, before installing? Do I have to read through a mixed text block, or is there some cool display where everything is sorted or color highlighted? |
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| 09:16.46 | nsadmin | Trewas, which package? and what is it for? |
| 09:16.57 | Trewas | oxi: you don't have to care about anything else than depends and recommends |
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| 09:17.10 | hark | oxi: apt-cache depends foo |
| 09:17.16 | oxi | Trewas: yeah, I was actually was going to do the same thing. If I ran into trouble, it would be a good lesson and I could still install a recommend later on. |
| 09:17.18 | Trewas | nsadmin: xmonad recommends libghc6-xmonad-dev |
| 09:17.25 | LittleDedPenguin | what are opinions on dselect for something like that? |
| 09:18.01 | nsadmin | I would say that if a recommended package not installed that causes the original package to fail in some way is a bug |
| 09:18.01 | oxi | Trewas: Did you find a way to generally turn recommends off, without having to remeber doing -R everytime? |
| 09:18.27 | nsadmin | the bug being specifically, the recommend should be a depend |
| 09:19.06 | Trewas | oxi: I have line "APT::Install-Recommends false;" in file /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 09:19.07 | nsadmin | oxi: that kind of thing lowers the value and power of the shell somewhat |
| 09:19.08 | oxi | nsadmin: I'd interpret this the same way. And I would like to install a dev environment if I just needed something for runtime. If I wanted dev, then I'd choose dev. :-) |
| 09:19.21 | oxi | Trewas: nice, thanks! |
| 09:19.34 | oxi | Trewas: I'll stick with that too |
| 09:19.36 | fxiny | Trewas: debian provides a huge colection of xmonad conf examples . xmoand is deeper then you think , diving into it is a very good experience , is rewarding , just browse the net if you don't feel to install |
| 09:20.07 | oxi | I don't like examples on prodution machines |
| 09:20.21 | oxi | I tend to really strip down to the bone for production. |
| 09:20.34 | Trewas | nsadmin: -dev packages are needed when packages are built, not when they are used, but maybe in xmonads case that recommends is justified (I have no idea what xmonad is) |
| 09:21.13 | fxiny | what i'm saying is : a mantainer helps a user by recommending packages , he's not trrying to fill a user hd up witn useless packages |
| 09:21.20 | oxi | Trewas: did you find an easy way to remove prepends/build-prepends/post ... later on? |
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| 09:21.44 | oxi | I'm still curious: How can I easily distinguish recommends/requirements/post/prepend/buildprepend/remove/... etc, before installing? Do I have to read through a mixed text block, or is there some cool display where everything is sorted or color highlighted? |
| 09:21.45 | fxiny | any xmonad user knows it |
| 09:22.04 | Trewas | oxi: umm, predepends are kind of "even stronger depends" so you can't remove them, build-depends are not installed |
| 09:22.06 | nsadmin | Trewas: there's a specific place for that, it's called a build depend -- and there are ways to automatically install all build depends |
| 09:22.29 | nsadmin | for a specific package. build depends do not belong in recommends, period... |
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| 09:22.44 | oxi | Trewas: Ok. So, a prepend is usually required for runtime? |
| 09:22.53 | LittleDedPenguin | oxi, try dselect |
| 09:23.04 | oxi | LettleDedPenguin: nice, thx |
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| 09:23.20 | nsadmin | omg... dselect... the inept spawn of satan's little sister... |
| 09:23.27 | oxi | haha |
| 09:24.05 | nsadmin | so I happen to hate hate hate it... |
| 09:24.09 | Trewas | oxi: pre-depends might not be needed after package is installed, but in general they are so central packages that uninstalling them is not an option |
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| 09:24.45 | oxi | Trewas: I guessed that too, but wanted to hear it. :-) |
| 09:24.59 | nsadmin | so it runs the gamut |
| 09:25.29 | oxi | Im gonna do the Lenny -> Squeeze again, now with -R and see how it's different |
| 09:25.33 | nsadmin | perhaps one package pre-depends on something that you later install another package that depends on it |
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| 09:26.08 | nsadmin | I'll do that again... |
| 09:26.17 | oxi | nsadmin: true, that makes perfect sense |
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| 09:26.49 | nsadmin | perhaps one package pre-depends on (say) FOO that you later install another package that depends (not pre) on FOO |
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| 09:27.39 | nsadmin | so maybe you won't need FOO for awhile after installint the predepending one |
| 09:27.42 | Trewas | I think pre-depends are usually versioned, so that the package can be sure that a depended package is the correct version... with normal depends the order of installation is not guaranteed |
| 09:28.32 | nsadmin | with normal depends unpacking can occur in any order, but configuring has to occur in depend order |
| 09:29.08 | nsadmin | (unpack and configure being the two stages of package install conducted by dpkg) |
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| 09:30.43 | nsadmin | with predepends a package cannot even be unpacked before the predepend |
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| 09:31.19 | oxi | Trewas: I don't have an /etc/apt/apt.conf ... |
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| 09:31.40 | Trewas | oxi: I didn't either before adding that line there :) |
| 09:31.44 | oxi | Trewas: Can I just create one and put "APT::Install-Recommends false;" there and it will work? |
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| 09:31.50 | Trewas | oxi: yes |
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| 09:31.55 | oxi | Trewas: nice... :-) |
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| 09:32.09 | oxi | Trewas: How can I know it worked? :-) |
| 09:32.23 | nsadmin | oxi: I have a /etc/apt/apt.conf.d |
| 09:32.35 | Trewas | oxi: try installing some package with recommends before and after? |
| 09:32.44 | oxi | nasadmin: yeah I have that too |
| 09:32.57 | nsadmin | that woudl be a dir, look in there |
| 09:32.59 | adb | oxi, man aptitude | apt-get |
| 09:33.13 | oxi | Trewas: alright, I know it sounded trivial, ... however :-) |
| 09:34.23 | Trewas | I don't know if recommends install that much unnecessary crap anymore, but when apt was changed to install recommends by default, many packages had lots of crap in their recommends |
| 09:34.34 | Trewas | now that crap hopefully moved to suggests :) |
| 09:34.36 | oxi | nsadmin: yep, but they have numbers there which tells me they are somehow "automatically" handled? apt.conf.d/ ./01autoremove ./70debconf |
| 09:34.38 | nsadmin | tries that... oh noez! apt-get has installed everything named in the man page!! |
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| 09:35.02 | ovidiugabriel | hello |
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| 09:35.45 | Twittery | ovidiugabriel : Howdy |
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| 09:36.16 | oxi | nsadmin: ah sorry |
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| 09:36.59 | nsadmin | (man aptitude | apt-get) no, I didn't really try that... |
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| 09:37.29 | oxi | nsadmin: sure I did, but I didn't pick up the ./01autoremove ./70debconf in there |
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| 09:39.39 | ovidiugabriel | i have a problem running a tcp socket client on debian |
| 09:39.44 | ovidiugabriel | it works fine on windows |
| 09:39.52 | ovidiugabriel | but have serious problems on linux |
| 09:39.56 | ovidiugabriel | it is a java client |
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| 09:40.16 | ovidiugabriel | ihave asked on #java |
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| 09:40.30 | ovidiugabriel | but it looks like it is a OS issue |
| 09:40.37 | EisRegeN | hello guys, I'm playin a little arount with my server, wanna try to setup an webserver-environment in jail |
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| 09:41.02 | EisRegeN | whats the common way? one jail for apache, mysql & ftp or every app in a seperated jail |
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| 09:41.38 | EisRegeN | since the apache needs the mysql, and the ftp needs to copy files into the www dir, it sounds logically to me to put everything in one jail |
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| 09:42.50 | nsadmin | just one question... have you considered postgres? |
| 09:43.27 | EisRegeN | nsadmin: why? I'm working with mysql for yearsnow (nothing productive,just hobby) |
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| 09:44.26 | nsadmin | pg offers more in terms of dbprogrammer-defined ways to have the database keep itself stable |
| 09:45.27 | nsadmin | transactions, stored funcs/procs in about 5 different languages, robust set of constraints |
| 09:45.32 | EisRegeN | hmm, I heart befre from a friend, he said pg is much more secure and stable |
| 09:45.37 | EisRegeN | heard ^^ |
| 09:45.43 | oxi | weird, it seems to me that recommends are not installed by default for a "aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade": "The following packages are RECOMMENDED but will NOT be installed:..... "? |
| 09:46.17 | EisRegeN | perhaps I'll give it a shot, if I set up every from scratch now, its a good point to start with |
| 09:46.28 | EisRegeN | but whats about this jail thing? |
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| 09:46.37 | EisRegeN | I'm totally new to jailing |
| 09:46.46 | nsadmin | a jail is a chrooted env |
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| 09:47.03 | EisRegeN | I know ;) |
| 09:47.05 | nsadmin | well that's one form |
| 09:47.13 | EisRegeN | I'm running a lighthttp jailed |
| 09:47.21 | EisRegeN | but wana switch to apache now |
| 09:47.27 | nsadmin | I guess you could do virtualization-based jails |
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| 09:47.43 | EisRegeN | hmm now, my server isnt far to slow for a real virtualisation |
| 09:47.49 | EisRegeN | is ^^ |
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| 09:48.39 | EisRegeN | http://www.carrot-server.com/vserver.html <-- i've got the C60 |
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| 09:49.13 | nsadmin | oh, so you already have a vserver; to virtualize that could be too much :) |
| 09:49.36 | EisRegeN | yes, I think so :D |
| 09:50.23 | EisRegeN | I think chroot jails are enough security, its just for testing.. security is ot really important, since this is a system for testing purposes |
| 09:50.30 | EisRegeN | only |
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| 09:52.15 | JyZyXEL | !coffee |
| 09:52.15 | dpkg | it has been said that coffee is the reason the net exists, the drug of choice for a GNU generation, http://www.chez.com/emarsden/downloads/coffee.el, /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/mini/Coffee.html, geiseri's favorite beverage, smells better than it tastes |
| 09:52.51 | nsadmin | what I know about chroots (whether they're used as jails or not) is the libs and the executables and whatever else is needed (things maybe like the /proc fs, /dev, etc) has to be in the jail |
| 09:53.37 | EisRegeN | yeah, i've done it before with lighttpd.. |
| 09:53.41 | EisRegeN | it's quite simple |
| 09:53.43 | nsadmin | you can use hard links to things on the same filesystem on the outside of the chroot |
| 09:54.08 | nsadmin | so then what's the problem exactly? |
| 09:54.11 | EisRegeN | my question is just, one jail for all web apps or every app in one? |
| 09:54.12 | EisRegeN | :D |
| 09:54.23 | EisRegeN | don't know the common way |
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| 09:54.46 | nsadmin | it seems like both alternatives have good and bad points |
| 09:55.09 | nsadmin | if you jail each separately, you have to worry about how they will communicate |
| 09:55.38 | EisRegeN | that was what I thougt first.. |
| 09:55.59 | EisRegeN | internal sockets require from one side access to the jail afaik |
| 09:56.06 | EisRegeN | so that both can use the sock file |
| 09:56.08 | nsadmin | if you jail them together, they have more freedom to use whatever's there and you don't have to piece them togther |
| 09:56.18 | EisRegeN | yes, sounds logically |
| 09:56.32 | EisRegeN | so, I think I'll build up a web-jail |
| 09:57.00 | nsadmin | the main point is what you're restricting access to |
| 09:57.05 | EisRegeN | another thing.. I googled a bit about pgsql. It syas, it quite insecure to jail pg |
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| 09:57.25 | nsadmin | I don't see why |
| 09:58.12 | nsadmin | and additional info is available on that subject in #postgresql |
| 09:58.24 | EisRegeN | because of the activation of "jail_sysvipc_allow="YES"" |
| 09:58.41 | EisRegeN | don'tknow what this option does exactly |
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| 09:59.24 | nsadmin | it allows something called "interprocess communication" to get through the chroot |
| 09:59.50 | EisRegeN | ahh ok.. |
| 09:59.52 | nsadmin | and a specific flavor of it |
| 10:00.12 | EisRegeN | ipc is a common way of communication, afaik? |
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| 10:00.21 | EisRegeN | under unix-likes |
| 10:00.26 | EisRegeN | I heard of |
| 10:00.27 | nsadmin | I don't see having to do that in all cases |
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| 10:01.08 | nsadmin | it's fairly intricate, and probably not for non-coders |
| 10:01.36 | nsadmin | that is not sure a non-coder could set up a new/customized situation |
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| 10:02.23 | EisRegeN | so, u thnik its not a security problem activating this? |
| 10:02.49 | nsadmin | I don't know if it is or not... it's definitely worth looking into |
| 10:03.22 | nsadmin | what's pertinent is why you have to, and under what conditions you wouldn't have to |
| 10:03.50 | EisRegeN | i read, that pgsql uses more than one process |
| 10:03.57 | EisRegeN | anf not all of them getting jailed |
| 10:04.08 | nsadmin | maybe you can run the database outside of a chroot and just the web server in |
| 10:04.13 | EisRegeN | hmmm |
| 10:04.40 | EisRegeN | since the db is only accesible from localhost, this couldbe a solution |
| 10:04.51 | nsadmin | and then, your queries should use bind variables |
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| 10:05.22 | EisRegeN | bind variables? |
| 10:05.27 | nsadmin | never directly substitute text into queries |
| 10:05.38 | nsadmin | like, |
| 10:05.46 | nsadmin | don't do things like... |
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| 10:07.00 | nsadmin | myquery="select foo, bar from baz_table where baz_id = $an_id" |
| 10:07.00 | oxi | Lenny/Squeeze: "aptitude only reads ~/.aptitude/config, /etc/apt/apt.conf, and |
| 10:07.24 | oxi | .../usr/share/aptitude/aptitude-defaults." -> true/false? |
| 10:07.50 | EisRegeN | nsadmin: that coul be injected |
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| 10:07.59 | oxi | It doeas not read from /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/*? |
| 10:08.01 | nsadmin | right, that's why not |
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| 10:08.15 | nsadmin | so instead you would use |
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| 10:08.26 | nsadmin | myquery="select foo, bar from baz_table where baz_id = :an_id" |
| 10:08.47 | nsadmin | and the driver would... |
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| 10:09.31 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:09.51 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:10.18 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:10.41 | nsadmin | the query would become something like |
| 10:11.06 | nsadmin | myquery="select foo, bar from baz_table where baz_id = $$43234$$" |
| 10:11.52 | nsadmin | ($$ is one of the ways to quote something in pg) |
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| 10:12.27 | pistache_ | PLease |
| 10:12.41 | nsadmin | or it might also turn it into something like $$43234$$:integer |
| 10:12.56 | EisRegeN | so that the given value must be an integer |
| 10:13.01 | EisRegeN | otherwise it errors? |
| 10:13.51 | EisRegeN | thank you, I'll loook into it |
| 10:14.00 | nsadmin | well if the driver is smart enough to figure out that baz_id is supposed to be an integer |
| 10:14.12 | nsadmin | more likely it's not that smart, and it just quotes it |
| 10:14.15 | pistache_ | I have a 1,7M kernel image, with a 2,7M initrd image. |
| 10:14.17 | nsadmin | so it looks like text |
| 10:14.26 | pistache_ | I *need* to make that boot in lilo. |
| 10:14.30 | EisRegeN | nsadmin: ok, thank yo |
| 10:14.35 | pistache_ | How can I do that ? |
| 10:14.38 | EisRegeN | another thing.. |
| 10:14.40 | pistache_ | Okay |
| 10:14.49 | nsadmin | whylo? |
| 10:14.51 | EisRegeN | which ftp-server are you using? |
| 10:15.05 | EisRegeN | proftpd? |
| 10:15.16 | nsadmin | I don't, especially for any kind of authenticated ftp |
| 10:15.30 | oxi | Trewas: you are doing "APT::Install-Recommends false;" ... shouldn't it be something like: "Aptitude::Recommends-Important "false";"? |
| 10:15.33 | nsadmin | better to use scp/sftp |
| 10:15.42 | EisRegeN | hmm.. |
| 10:15.57 | EisRegeN | scp runs over ssh? |
| 10:16.02 | nsadmin | yes |
| 10:16.19 | nsadmin | so all the key stuff and everything works |
| 10:16.24 | purplepenguins | you can also use rsync |
| 10:16.32 | purplepenguins | i like rsync better |
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| 10:16.51 | arvind_khadri | hi, how do i install xen on debian? |
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| 10:17.19 | hark | oxi: no |
| 10:17.24 | EisRegeN | but what, if I need to upload something when I'm in another playce, where I'm forced to use mickeysoft windows |
| 10:17.40 | nsadmin | arvind_khadri: pick which kernel you want, and there should be a single package thet depends on the hypervisor, kernels and tools |
| 10:18.20 | hark | EisRegeN: there are many windows clients |
| 10:18.23 | nsadmin | EisRegeN: so let's look at that scenario... you're runnign windows, and you ftp to your server... |
| 10:18.29 | Trewas | oxi: seems to work for me in both apt-get and aptitude, I guess they share those settings |
| 10:18.34 | nsadmin | then what, you want to put in your password? |
| 10:18.50 | oxi | Trewas: ok |
| 10:18.54 | arvind_khadri | nsadmin, am very new to all this, could you please make it more clear. i would pick the 2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 |
| 10:19.20 | EisRegeN | nsadmin: yeah, you are right, ftp is really unsecure |
| 10:19.34 | nsadmin | there shoudl be a single pakage that depends on all the packages you need installed |
| 10:19.43 | EisRegeN | I'm convinced using scp > ftp |
| 10:19.45 | nsadmin | I just don't remember the name |
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| 10:20.32 | EisRegeN | so i can regulate the access of scp via new users? is it chrootable? |
| 10:20.34 | arvind_khadri | nsadmin, oh ok... |
| 10:21.01 | nsadmin | EisRegeN: what do you want them to do? |
| 10:21.13 | nsadmin | are these customers? |
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| 10:21.32 | EisRegeN | I just want users that has no access to the qhole file system |
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| 10:22.06 | nsadmin | I think that would be an argument toward one chroot that has everything for a particular user |
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| 10:23.14 | EisRegeN | hey I found something: rssh |
| 10:23.49 | nsadmin | rsh? |
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| 10:24.13 | funyun | i just bought a debian dedicated server that has RAID 1. is it possible to give it RAID 0? i'm a total noob at this so forgive me if i'm not saying something right |
| 10:24.40 | EisRegeN | http://pizzashack.org/rssh/index.shtml |
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| 10:25.22 | nsadmin | arvind_khadri xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 could be the name of the package you want |
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| 10:26.01 | thrashold | funyun, even if you can, better don't. |
| 10:26.51 | nsadmin | some raid levels don't lend themselves to random-access performance, which a database would need |
| 10:27.37 | funyun | okay. thank you for your help :) |
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| 10:30.49 | fxiny | EisRegeN: uploading from a windoze box ? ssh sftp chroot() built in ? |
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| 10:37.52 | arvind_khadri | nsadmin, thanks, let me check it out |
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| 10:39.35 | arvind_khadri | nsadmin, after i install that, i just boot into that kernel and i can run any guest i want? |
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| 10:43.01 | samid | hi |
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| 10:45.30 | oxi | Trewas: apt-config dump ... also shows the config, so you don't have to istall a package with recommends twice to figure out if the recommends attribute is turned off :-) |
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| 10:45.58 | oxi | Trewas: apt-config dump ... also shows the Aptitude config |
| 10:46.16 | inetd50 | i just upgraded my distro to sid |
| 10:46.23 | karme | could someone adjust the topic to: "lenny (debian 5.0.3) released!: /msg dpkg lennyr3 | |
| 10:46.23 | karme | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:46.24 | karme | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:46.24 | karme | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:46.24 | dpkg | no idea, karme |
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| 10:46.38 | inetd50 | i need some help with subpixel font rendering |
| 10:46.48 | karme | sorry - hit return by accident |
| 10:47.09 | inetd50 | i read a bit about this xft/cairo lcd patch |
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| 10:47.29 | inetd50 | is there anywhere i can download this patch for debian? |
| 10:49.09 | oxi | I created a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list , ... how can I "activate" it or make the system aware of it? (Lenny) |
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| 10:54.45 | inetd50 | oxi: apt-get upate |
| 10:54.51 | inetd50 | oxi: apt-get update |
| 10:55.02 | oxi | inetd50: thanks |
| 10:55.33 | abrotman | !why aptitude |
| 10:55.33 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available, and will automatically uninstall unneeded dependencies, read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for more info. Aptitude can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
| 10:55.46 | oxi | inetd50: that didn't help |
| 10:56.08 | oxi | inetd50: or maybe aptitude is never aware of /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* |
| 10:56.32 | lvh | it should be |
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| 10:57.32 | abrotman | inetd50: there's no reason to msg me |
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| 10:58.11 | oxi | lvh: ok, I'll try to figure out what's going wrong |
| 10:58.18 | djj | oxi: what do you have in there, testing repos? |
| 10:58.37 | oxi | djj: squeeze.list repos |
| 10:58.46 | inetd50 | does anyone have any info about libxft lcd patch? |
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| 10:59.10 | sl1ck | Is it possible to construct a command for terminal which will repeat itself after the task is complete? |
| 10:59.25 | oxi | djj: maybe I'm using it wrong. I thought it would be cooler to keep things organized in serveral files than one sources list. That's why I put a squeeze.list in sources.list.d |
| 10:59.32 | djj | oxi: how about you rename it to testing.list ? |
| 10:59.39 | sl1ck | or will repeat itself after certain period of time? |
| 11:00.03 | Riviera | sl1ck: start it with watch, or use a while loop like: while sleep 300; do command; another command; done |
| 11:00.13 | oxi | djj: I find the use of the term testing horrible all over debian |
| 11:00.19 | niels1 | Hello, maybe someone here can help: When I try to install debian from cd, the installer goes to black screen, flashing the message ""hub 1.0:0.1 over current change on port2" - how do I get the installer to ignore this and to continue anyway? |
| 11:00.23 | djj | oxi: did you echo 'APT::Default-Release "stable";' > /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/defaultt |
| 11:00.34 | oxi | djj: I think of the term as a reminder to the user, but the user should be aware of what he's doing |
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| 11:00.56 | oxi | djj: and testing is really not a time constant, what's testing changes from time to time |
| 11:01.01 | Riviera | sl1ck: which would pause 5 minutes between runs. another option might be to create a cronjob. |
| 11:01.13 | oxi | djj: I really don't want to have to think about what's testing every year |
| 11:01.17 | EisRegeN | if i set up a user, for using scp on the machine, does he need a sell tehn or can I give hin /bin/false? |
| 11:02.00 | oxi | djj: I don't have a /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/default ... thanks, I'll try something like that |
| 11:02.18 | djj | oxi: yes, i understand your point |
| 11:02.28 | Riviera | EisRegeN: "aptitude search scponly" might help |
| 11:02.31 | fxiny | EisRegeN: scp or sftp chrooted ? |
| 11:02.59 | zophy | both mplayer and totem, the right half of the player window is screwed up, debian testing, wats up wid dis schitznatz ? |
| 11:03.11 | Riviera | EisRegeN: or aptitude show scponly :) |
| 11:03.49 | oxi | djj: imho "testing" is a pow which changes with time :-) |
| 11:04.33 | oxi | or I think of "testing" as an opinion |
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| 11:06.04 | EisRegeN | I installed scponly, but it did not work well |
| 11:06.16 | EisRegeN | from scp or rsync came a "connection lost" |
| 11:06.23 | djj | oxi: for sure. it's just that when i experienced with it, i found that squeeze.list didn't work but testing.list did. but the repos in that file were indeed as "squeeze main" and so forth.. |
| 11:07.04 | EisRegeN | Riviera: so u would use scponly? |
| 11:08.25 | sl1ck | Riviera: I'm not sure I follow. Lets say I'd like a simple command, like: "uname -r" to be executed from 'terminal' every five seconds in a loop-like manner. Is that feasible? |
| 11:08.25 | oxi | djj: ah! I see! :-) thanks ... I'll try to figure out how to make squeeze.list work then and I'll try to figure out why testing.list works by default and squeeze.list doesn't .... that' probably a good exercise for me to understand the guts a little better |
| 11:08.42 | purplepenguins | sl1ck: watch |
| 11:08.57 | djj | oxi: good luck! :-) |
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| 11:12.46 | sl1ck | thanks Riviera and purplepenguins ;) |
| 11:13.30 | niels1 | Maybe I shall ask different: Where can I find a commented list of the installer options? So I can try to swtich off the usbhub detection or something |
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| 11:17.43 | g00se | Is it just me or is Debian Weekly News waaay out of date? |
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| 11:19.07 | tawan | hi, did i miss a meeting? 74 updates for Squueze just today? :-O |
| 11:19.26 | abrotman | a meeting? |
| 11:19.45 | abrotman | g00se: no one really does it anymore .. they pissed off the guy that used to do it |
| 11:19.48 | tawan | turn of phrase |
| 11:20.35 | tawan | normally i see a few updates a day, just odd to see 74 |
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| 11:20.58 | g00se | abrotman: Ah thanks, i suspected some sort of upset. Is the same happening with security news though? |
| 11:21.15 | abrotman | g00se: nope .. i got two yestserdfay i think |
| 11:21.52 | niels1 | How do I install debian remote via ssh? |
| 11:21.52 | abrotman | g00se: there are other news sources in debian .. stuff still goes to the -news list i believe .. plus a few RSS feeds |
| 11:21.59 | g00se | abrotman: Well Lenny has had some big stuff this morning (for me) and i can't find much about it |
| 11:22.00 | abrotman | !ssh install |
| 11:22.01 | dpkg | i guess ssh install is http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch06s03.html#di-miscellaneous or [obsolete] http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html See also <debootstrap>. |
| 11:22.13 | abrotman | g00se: seems to be lenny 5.0.3 |
| 11:22.27 | abrotman | g00se: and the DWN was .. weekly .. probably wouldn't have had it |
| 11:22.59 | niels1 | abrotman: the screen is broken, so what shall I do? |
| 11:23.14 | g00se | abrotman: Yes but i find nothing on security either. Yes, i'm running 5.0.3 |
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| 11:23.34 | abrotman | niels1: memorize the steps ? |
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| 11:23.41 | abrotman | niels1: is it a laptop ? |
| 11:23.44 | g00se | Maybe too early..? |
| 11:23.51 | abrotman | !tell g00se about dsa |
| 11:23.58 | niels1 | abrotman: hehe, yes its a laptop |
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| 11:24.16 | EisRegeN | got scponly running, great thing at all :) |
| 11:24.29 | abrotman | g00se: http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2009/msg00012.html |
| 11:24.33 | EisRegeN | but is it possible to let the user land in his incoming-dir after login |
| 11:24.45 | abrotman | niels1: use the external video jack ? |
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| 11:25.48 | niels1 | abrotman: Actually the video card has some kind of hit, so I can still read parts, but its still anonying (that also kills the external video jack). |
| 11:26.08 | g00se | abrotman: Thanks for that. Seems like lists. is the only thing up to date |
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| 11:27.15 | abrotman | g00se: the website will get there |
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| 11:27.33 | *** topic/#debian by abrotman -> lenny (debian 5.0.2\3) released!: /msg dpkg lennyr3 | /msg dpkg etch->lenny | 4.0r8 released /msg dpkg etch | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | channel logs: http://purl.rikers.org/%23debian |
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| 11:28.14 | *** topic/#debian by abrotman -> lenny (debian 5.0.3) released!: /msg dpkg lennyr3 | /msg dpkg etch->lenny | 4.0r8 released /msg dpkg etch | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | channel logs: http://purl.rikers.org/%23debian |
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| 11:28.16 | funyun | i figured out how to give my server Raid0. but now it tells me this. can someone help me out? |
| 11:28.18 | abrotman | duh ... |
| 11:28.20 | funyun | "you need to have the / or /boot partition in raid 1 first then you can select different raid types for other patitions." |
| 11:28.56 | niels1 | abrotman: but I see you still need access to the installer console which I cannot get it to boot to due to the usb hub error. |
| 11:29.28 | abrotman | oh |
| 11:29.50 | abrotman | the installer doesn't boot at all? |
| 11:29.55 | abrotman | or hangs booting up? |
| 11:30.35 | niels1 | abrotman: just flashes the message (hub 1.0:0.1 over current change on port2) then goes to black screen and stops |
| 11:30.55 | niels1 | ..once I choose "Install debian" |
| 11:31.10 | abrotman | did you try the expert mode? or try turnning off USB in the bios ? |
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| 11:32.08 | niels1 | abrotman: Expertmode: I tried plus you cannot turn of usb in bios |
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| 11:33.10 | abrotman | crappy bios! |
| 11:33.22 | abrotman | niels1: so you're looking for the installer command line option to disable ? |
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| 11:34.19 | abrotman | debian-installer/probe/usb=false |
| 11:34.34 | niels1 | abrotman: lots of things crappy w/ that laptop, uhm yes a command line option would be nice, I tried apci=off and nousb |
| 11:35.02 | dutchfish | niels1, have you tested earlyprintk=vga as kline ? |
| 11:35.51 | niels1 | dutchfish, abrotman: will try both now |
| 11:36.25 | dutchfish | niels1, noapci nolapic are things to check as well |
| 11:36.53 | dutchfish | s/noapci/noapic |
| 11:36.56 | niels1 | dutchfish: do i try them one by one or all at once? |
| 11:37.05 | dutchfish | niels1, one by one first |
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| 11:37.50 | jMCg | Hello happy people. |
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| 11:38.19 | purplepenguins | no hello for the unhappy people? |
| 11:38.53 | dutchfish | !comfort purplepenguins |
| 11:38.53 | dpkg | There, there, purplepenguins. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 11:39.06 | jMCg | purplepenguins: no. |
| 11:39.13 | purplepenguins | oh man |
| 11:39.19 | purplepenguins | dpkg is so nice |
| 11:39.20 | dpkg | wish i knew, purplepenguins |
| 11:39.26 | Riviera | dutchfish: but why, he was not complaining about the missing hello for the happy penguins :) |
| 11:39.32 | purplepenguins | dpkg fixes all my package problems |
| 11:39.32 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, purplepenguins |
| 11:39.40 | purplepenguins | don't be so modest |
| 11:39.46 | jMCg | I'm trying to put Debian (or Ubuntu, or anything) on my Acer Revo.. Which is a small nettop computer, *without* an CDrom/DVDthingy. |
| 11:39.47 | dutchfish | Riviera, maybe a raincheck ? ;) |
| 11:40.05 | purplepenguins | jMCg: a usb stick is the answer |
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| 11:40.25 | jMCg | So far I managed to get a crypted LVM (with goodby microsoft) on it, then the installer crashed, leaving me without a grub. |
| 11:40.28 | purplepenguins | there is nothing that says that a cd image has to go on a cd |
| 11:40.42 | fxiny | dpkg eats cat-food at disctrict-9 :P |
| 11:40.42 | dpkg | fxiny: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 11:41.08 | fxiny | i know you do ... |
| 11:41.30 | purplepenguins | jMCg: try installing again? |
| 11:41.36 | abrotman | fxiny: go play somewhere else |
| 11:41.39 | niels1 | abrotman: How do I use this exactly, I think I am doing something wrong. I press tab on the install line, so I can edit it, can I just add /debian-installer/probe/usb=false to end of the line? |
| 11:41.51 | jMCg | Now I'm trying to boot into a rescueue system, unfortunately: <insert url pasted, which I cannot paste..> gives me Pen drive without operating system. remove pen drive and reboot. Missing operating system |
| 11:42.00 | dutchfish | jMCg, netboot might be another option |
| 11:42.14 | abrotman | niels1: linux debian-installer/probe/usb=false |
| 11:42.20 | dutchfish | jMCg, with pxe and netboot |
| 11:43.00 | dutchfish | niels1, have you tried toggling the bios switch for lagacy mode on usb? |
| 11:43.12 | dutchfish | s/lagacy/legacy |
| 11:43.29 | jMCg | dutchfish: okay. Now let us assume I do NOT have 34 computers and three routers at home. I bought myself such a tiny shiny new device and I would like to install something on it, which I can use (It took me half an hour to put an Image on an USB stick in Windows (after finding a dd for windows, that is)). |
| 11:43.35 | jMCg | How do I do that? |
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| 11:44.19 | dutchfish | jMCg, then on usb stcik or external cdrom are the only options left, if your computer support booting from them (most do) |
| 11:44.28 | niels1 | dutchfish: there is no such option (anything related usb) in the bios |
| 11:44.38 | dutchfish | niels1, ok |
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| 11:45.05 | jMCg | dutchfish: it does support booting from USB stick, however, putting the image on an USB stick does not guarantee it will actually boot. |
| 11:45.24 | dutchfish | jMCg, if you done it right, sur eit will |
| 11:46.02 | dutchfish | jMCg, just test it |
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| 11:46.33 | jMCg | zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdb1 # not sure what wrong one can do here... |
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| 11:46.39 | dutchfish | jMCg, and make sur eyou have the right installer for your architecture |
| 11:47.56 | FailPowah | strange, my whole debian server just hung |
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| 11:50.23 | niels1 | abrotman: lol, I don't get it: i exited the boot menu and wrote "install linux debian-installer/probe/usb=false" - is that correct? |
| 11:50.50 | abrotman | uhm .. "install debian-installer/probe/usb=false" |
| 11:51.00 | abrotman | that was my fault |
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| 11:55.17 | lvh | hm |
| 11:55.18 | oxi | I'm trying to make my system pick up /etc/apt/sources.list.d/squeeze.list |
| 11:55.27 | oxi | Can anyone help me with that? |
| 11:55.33 | lvh | aptitude appears to want to remove grub, grub-common and grub-legacy without installing grub-pc |
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| 11:55.44 | lvh | im somewhat worried that this will lead to an unbootable system :-) |
| 11:56.21 | dutchfish | oxi, you mean something like: deb http://ftp.xx.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free (where xx is your ocuntry)? |
| 11:56.35 | zamuro | lvh: There's a slight possibility for that to happen ;) |
| 11:56.38 | dutchfish | s/ocuntry/country |
| 11:56.43 | oxi | dutchfish: exactly |
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| 11:57.09 | oxi | dutchfish: unfortunately my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/squeeze.list isn't being read, and I can't figure out why |
| 11:57.18 | zamuro | dutchfish: what if your country doesn't have a deb repository? |
| 11:57.19 | oxi | my /etc/apt/sources.list is read though |
| 11:57.44 | dutchfish | zamuro, good point but you surely can find out about mirrors |
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| 11:58.19 | dutchfish | oxi, /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 11:58.27 | zamuro | dutchfish: Of course. Then tell oxi about mirrors instead. |
| 11:58.38 | zamuro | :) |
| 11:58.51 | oxi | hmm, I don't think it's about the merrors or the config inside of the file |
| 11:59.15 | dutchfish | !tell oxi about mirror |
| 11:59.17 | oxi | I just can't get my system to pick up config from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ *I think |
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| 11:59.53 | zamuro | oxi: I know this might sound silly, but... Are you using debian? |
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| 12:00.08 | oxi | zamuro: sure |
| 12:00.17 | dutchfish | oxi, /etc/apt/sources.list is th epreferred way of telling apt for a debian mirror |
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| 12:00.28 | oxi | zamuro: if I put the same lines into /etc/apt/sources.list they are read |
| 12:00.33 | oxi | dutchfish: why? |
| 12:00.41 | dutchfish | oxi, by ocnvention |
| 12:00.46 | dutchfish | convention* |
| 12:00.58 | oxi | and why does debian feature a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ dir then? |
| 12:01.09 | dutchfish | for all the non-debian repos |
| 12:01.20 | oxi | dutchfish: ah, I see |
| 12:01.23 | dutchfish | per example your own |
| 12:01.58 | oxi | dutchfish: and couldn't I move the contents form /etc/apt/sources.list to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/squeeze.list ? |
| 12:02.13 | dutchfish | oxi, if you configure apt for it, sure |
| 12:02.15 | jMCg | I cannot believe this thing actually booted. |
| 12:02.23 | niels1 | abrotman, dutchfish: i tried all of what you suggest and i couldn't get it to work. I think it would be usefull if the installer would go black (trying reboot?) everytime the errors appear, maybe I am just missing the last line? |
| 12:02.28 | oxi | dutchfish: well, how do I configure apt for it? |
| 12:02.41 | oxi | dutchfish: I'm trying to find that out for an hour :-) |
| 12:02.57 | dutchfish | oxi, reading its manpages? |
| 12:03.05 | oxi | I am :-) |
| 12:04.39 | dutchfish | oxi, http://man.cx/sources.list(5) |
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| 12:07.20 | zophy | why the freek am i downloading 8 gig of updates for open offioce fron security.debian.org ? |
| 12:07.43 | oxi | dutchfish: That doesn't help me. :-( The only thing I read from there is: "The /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory provides a way to add sources.list entries in seperate files that end with .list." |
| 12:07.59 | dutchfish | oxi, yup |
| 12:08.02 | zophy | security.debian.org is pig slow |
| 12:08.10 | oxi | Therefore I expect the system to read any file I put into there. |
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| 12:09.58 | NekawA | i'm sure someone can help me here how do i change the hostname while the kernel is running w/O rebooting |
| 12:10.08 | asg | NekawA: /msg dpkg hostname |
| 12:10.18 | dutchfish | oxi, normally it should, maybe take a close look at /etc/apt/apt-file.conf ? |
| 12:10.23 | niels1 | dutchfish, abrotman: it started (yeah) I used: "expert vga=771 nolapci noapci nousb floppy=off generic" in the end |
| 12:10.37 | oxi | dutchfish: it worked - my bad! |
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| 12:10.47 | dutchfish | oxi, there you go |
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| 12:11.15 | oxi | dutchfish: I thought I scp'ed the file in sources.list.d but it wasn't there :-( ... |
| 12:11.21 | oxi | dutchfish: thanks for your help |
| 12:11.23 | funyun | noob here, trying to setup raid0 on my dedicated server but i am stuck here http://i26.tinypic.com/k3pzxs.png can anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong? |
| 12:11.29 | dutchfish | oxi, yw |
| 12:11.45 | NekawA | thx asg I did that already tho' problem is that other machines still can't resolve the new hostname |
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| 12:12.18 | arvind_khadri | nsadmin, I did what you said, how do i use xen now? |
| 12:12.19 | dutchfish | oxi, one warning this setup can easy be confusing for others so make some comments in the /etc/apt.sources.list ;) |
| 12:12.28 | asg | NekawA: that's a dns issue then |
| 12:12.59 | NekawA | well it worked before |
| 12:13.07 | asg | NekawA: how did the other machines know its name in the first place? |
| 12:13.08 | oxi | dutchfish: heh, very good idea, I'll do that, even if I mostly admin'ing it, I might find that warning usefull in a few months :-) |
| 12:13.13 | NekawA | samba / winbind |
| 12:13.22 | dutchfish | oxi, ;) |
| 12:13.30 | asg | NekawA: then restart those daemons and see if that helps |
| 12:15.03 | NekawA | yea i did try that guess i'm just gonna reboot brb |
| 12:15.30 | arvind_khadri | nsadmin, I did what you said, how do i use xen now? |
| 12:15.50 | oxi | what's the main-est debian repo? |
| 12:16.20 | dutchfish | !tell oxi about mirror |
| 12:16.24 | asg | oxi: any of the mirrors |
| 12:16.28 | oxi | the roots, the source, ... of all goodies |
| 12:16.49 | asg | it's irrelevant, use a mirror |
| 12:16.51 | oxi | asg: nah, one of them mast be the master, the gold, the original, whatever :-) |
| 12:17.05 | dutchfish | oxi, you should not use that one for several reasons, choose an appropriate mirror |
| 12:17.24 | oxi | asg: it's not irrelevant, I had very huge trouble with transparent proxys and not up to date files in the past |
| 12:17.34 | oxi | dutchfish: I know |
| 12:17.40 | asg | oxi: that's a proxy problem, not a mirror problem. |
| 12:17.53 | oxi | asg: it's still a problem though :-) |
| 12:18.03 | asg | oxi: and changing mirrors would not solve the problem |
| 12:18.05 | dutchfish | oxi, http://mirror.debian.org/status.html |
| 12:18.33 | oxi | dutchfish: thanks |
| 12:18.42 | dutchfish | oxi, yw |
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| 12:19.34 | funyun | noob here, trying to setup raid0 on my dedicated server but i am stuck here http://i26.tinypic.com/k3pzxs.png can anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong? |
| 12:19.41 | oxi | I guess www.us.debian.org to be the primary push |
| 12:20.19 | abrotman | niels1: that must be a totally crappy laptop |
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| 12:22.31 | oxi | what are the pro/contras of using ftp/http mirrors? |
| 12:23.03 | guk | funyun: you need to make a swap partition ... what I did was lets say you have a 250gb drive x2 right ... well put 1gb of swap on each |
| 12:23.06 | dutchfish | oxi, the most important thing is to choose a mirror as nearby as possible that is known to be good |
| 12:23.08 | guk | RAID the 2x drives |
| 12:23.19 | guk | and debian supports "striping" your swap just by adding 2x swap files |
| 12:23.20 | oxi | ok |
| 12:23.20 | guk | :) |
| 12:23.52 | funyun | guk: so for filesystem, choose swap? |
| 12:23.54 | abrotman | oxi: in general .. http has fewer issues |
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| 12:24.10 | oxi | abrotman: good, thx |
| 12:24.17 | guk | well ... from what it looks like your little screenshot is bitching you don't have a swap drive |
| 12:24.19 | piovasco | gud morinin |
| 12:24.30 | eoke | Hi I'm contemplating going from Lennny Stable to Testing but I'm concerned about whether or not security patches are applied to testing in the same way they are to stable. |
| 12:24.38 | guk | right ... and you need to put 2x normal partitions for your RAID to keep things tidy ... keep it symetrical |
| 12:24.47 | funyun | guk: can i create one? |
| 12:25.15 | dutchfish | oxi, hint there is also a package to find out the best mirror apt-spy |
| 12:25.17 | guk | from what it looks like you should be able too |
| 12:25.37 | oxi | dutchfish: nice |
| 12:25.40 | guk | add a new partition ... primary ...filesystwem = swap and you don't need to RAID it and 10gb is a little intense for swap lol |
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| 12:26.27 | funyun | guk: what do you recommend? |
| 12:26.34 | purplepenguins | swap beyond a gigabyte is pretty worthless |
| 12:26.42 | abrotman | purplepenguins: not always true |
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| 12:27.18 | purplepenguins | why not? |
| 12:27.34 | dutchfish | purplepenguins, depends on your swap device and your swap needs |
| 12:27.52 | abrotman | purplepenguins: some people actually use 16GB of RAM, and use all of that plus swap .. just because your desktop doesn't need more than 1GB doesnt' mean his system doesn't |
| 12:27.56 | purplepenguins | i suppose if you want suspend it might be good to have plenty |
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| 12:28.07 | guk | funyun: for a desktop / server well HDD space is cheap ... i'd go 2-3gb ... don't bother with mroe |
| 12:28.12 | karme | purplepenguins: well if your machine only has 64MB of ram you will love some swap < 1G :-) |
| 12:28.14 | guk | you can add more dynamicly as you like |
| 12:28.25 | purplepenguins | okay should specify desktop systems |
| 12:28.47 | purplepenguins | sorry |
| 12:29.08 | piovasco | hi, i had debian with Gfx bootloader. I added ubuntu to the box and it installed old grub. Do i have to reinstall gfx or is theree some way to restore the one i had before with the same theme, etc.? |
| 12:29.14 | abrotman | still might not be accurate |
| 12:29.36 | abrotman | piovasco: probably reinstall gfx |
| 12:29.53 | purplepenguins | desktop systems support 16 GB already? |
| 12:30.05 | piovasco | ok thankls abrotman |
| 12:30.17 | piovasco | ill keep googling nyhow |
| 12:30.36 | dutchfish | purplepenguins, even more on 64 bit |
| 12:30.37 | abrotman | purplepenguins: motherboards you mean? i'm sure some do .. i know plenty that do 8GB |
| 12:30.54 | purplepenguins | of course, the kernel supports that |
| 12:31.01 | purplepenguins | but i'm talking about motherboards |
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| 12:31.09 | purplepenguins | i do know that there are plenty for 8 GB |
| 12:31.13 | dutchfish | purplepenguins, yep up to 64GB i have seen |
| 12:31.17 | zophy | is there a debian testibng channel ? |
| 12:31.23 | abrotman | zophy: here |
| 12:31.26 | abrotman | purplepenguins: i'm sure there are .. |
| 12:31.33 | purplepenguins | but are they desktop motherboards |
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| 12:31.48 | purplepenguins | admittedly desktop is not a specification but a use case |
| 12:31.50 | funyun | guk: now i get this http://i31.tinypic.com/2r44kt5.png |
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| 12:31.53 | zophy | ok, mplayer and totem are screwed, wuts the cure ? |
| 12:32.11 | dutchfish | purplepenguins, mm... you could be more specific in the first place with your q, saves a lot of typing |
| 12:32.28 | funyun | guk: if you don't mind. can i PM you? i want to show you exactly what i'm doing to get to this point. i think i may be making a mistake somewhere else.. |
| 12:32.45 | purplepenguins | i'm talking and getting lots of criticisms so maybe i'll stop |
| 12:32.51 | abrotman | purplepenguins: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121361 .. is that a desktop board? |
| 12:33.14 | dutchfish | purplepenguins, np, this was only a hint no criticism |
| 12:33.21 | dutchfish | purplepenguins, no hamr done |
| 12:33.26 | abrotman | mc hamr! |
| 12:33.51 | dutchfish | s/hamr/harm |
| 12:33.56 | purplepenguins | that would be desktop, yes |
| 12:34.14 | abrotman | purplepenguins: FWIW, they had 'desktop' boards that went to 24GB |
| 12:34.16 | purplepenguins | extreme high-end but still desktop |
| 12:34.25 | abrotman | didn't even look at amd-ish board |
| 12:34.26 | abrotman | s |
| 12:34.41 | abrotman | purplepenguins: anyways .. just because you don't use that swap doesn't mean someone else won't |
| 12:34.53 | purplepenguins | sorry |
| 12:35.08 | purplepenguins | of course |
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| 12:37.04 | Trewas | it's true that HD speeds have increased much slower than memory sizes, so having a swap 2X memory (the old rule) is quite redundant because using all of that swap is unbearably slow |
| 12:37.45 | dutchfish | Trewas, or use arrays |
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| 12:38.00 | abrotman | Trewas: still doesn't mean you won't use it |
| 12:38.26 | dutchfish | Trewas, its always been cost versus speed |
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| 12:39.23 | NekawA | so i removed a bunch of packages and now gnome isn't working right is there some way i can get aptitude to reinstall the whole gnome and all its' dependencies i tried apt-get install --reinstall gdm and it only did the one package |
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| 12:40.32 | abrotman | aptitude install gnome ? |
| 12:40.42 | dutchfish | Trewas, if your system/server is suing swap to often then you might better consider ram upgrade if possible |
| 12:41.15 | Trewas | dutchfish: exactly |
| 12:41.17 | NekawA | tx abrotman seems to be working dunno why i thought it was gdm probably becuase /etc/init.d/gdm |
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| 12:42.40 | NekawA | note to self, dont' remove nautilus |
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| 12:43.16 | purplepenguins | you don't need nautilus |
| 12:43.29 | purplepenguins | unless you like filebrowsing and all that fun stuf |
| 12:43.37 | NekawA | hmm |
| 12:43.45 | NekawA | i removed something and now i get a blank screen loading gnome |
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| 12:44.45 | dutchfish | Trewas, but there is more to it then can be seen at first glance, specially if virtualisation comes into play |
| 12:45.07 | Zylvain | you don't need gnome |
| 12:45.10 | Zylvain | unless... |
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| 12:45.59 | purplepenguins | you don't need to use gnome, but you might need to have some gnome libraries depending on applications you want to use |
| 12:46.03 | dutchfish | Trewas, so swap 2x mem still stands, even on modern systems |
| 12:46.13 | dutchfish | Trewas, as a rule of thumb |
| 12:47.05 | purplepenguins | you can get by with less if your RAM far exceeds your requirements |
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| 12:47.54 | dutchfish | purplepenguins, again, it totally depends on what specific system, i wont try to dare that on a laptop with advanced power control |
| 12:48.07 | Trewas | dutchfish: well, HD sizes have increased so fast that one might as well waste disk for useless swap, but for example thrashing through 8GB swap on a normal disk is so slow that you can go and buy more memory until it finishes |
| 12:48.21 | NekawA | yea i'm kinda disturbed by this i was removing things guess i removed too much |
| 12:48.33 | dutchfish | Trewas, the alternative is a crash if you ru out of swap space |
| 12:48.52 | karme | popcon suggests following order regarding init script configuration: rcconf sysv-rc-conf sysvconfig - any comments/recommendations? |
| 12:48.58 | Trewas | dutchfish: yes, and the end result is the same, you'll finish sometimes after getting more RAM |
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| 12:49.25 | dutchfish | Trewas, safety first for me, but thats your decision |
| 12:50.04 | dutchfish | Trewas, and yes, more ram cant harm |
| 12:50.23 | purplepenguins | in my experience if i run out of swap it's due to a memory leak in an application |
| 12:50.44 | dutchfish | purplepenguins, they are quiet rare |
| 12:50.51 | purplepenguins | but i have 4 gb of swap |
| 12:51.02 | purplepenguins | it's hard to run out |
| 12:51.30 | Trewas | dutchfish: but sure sometimes having lots of swap can help, but if some application actively uses more memory than there is RAM, it is going to be painfully slow |
| 12:51.39 | avu | I don't understand people saying modern systems need no swap. I couldn't live without s2disk :-) |
| 12:52.00 | dutchfish | Trewas, purplepenguins brings us to the first rule about carefully planning your system setup ;) |
| 12:52.04 | purplepenguins | if you want s2disk you need a decent bit of swap |
| 12:52.11 | avu | exactly |
| 12:52.47 | purplepenguins | speaking of leaking memory, stupid iceweasel crashes again.. |
| 12:53.00 | avu | and for the last few years, I completely replaced 'halt' with 's2disk' on my desktop systems, much more convenient |
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| 12:53.29 | alexidoia | I have gnome install on a debian etch |
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| 12:54.13 | alexidoia | I am using ardour and IÂ need to keep time for this application, is there a way to turn off some process that are useless while using ardour ? |
| 12:54.39 | alexidoia | I mean IÂ not using anyother application at the same time, but is there some from gnome that might be turn off ? |
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| 12:55.15 | karme | hmm rcconf only can be controlled via menu? |
| 12:55.41 | karme | is looking for: disable-service name, enable-service name |
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| 12:56.11 | karme | and maybe: is-service-enabled |
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| 12:56.52 | dutchfish | karme, welcome to the world of /etc/init.d |
| 12:57.25 | jelly-home | karme: man update-rc.d |
| 12:57.34 | karme | dutchfish: well i always did it manually / used update-rc.d ... but today i finally want to do it right [TM] |
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| 12:57.47 | karme | jelly-home: fuck update-rc.d |
| 12:57.58 | karme | jelly-home: sorry |
| 12:57.59 | Johnny2 | I'm trying to install the newest debian testing netinst on an intel c2d machine. Everything went smooth all the way to the grub installation. It detected my win7rc install as vista, which I guess is fine, but when it tries to put itself in the mbr, it fails. Console says grub-install: line 390: cmp: command not found |
| 12:58.02 | purplepenguins | what's wrong with update-rc.d besides it horrible syntax |
| 12:58.05 | Johnny2 | What can I do about this? |
| 12:58.38 | karme | purplepenguins: give me an alias for enable-service using update-rc.d and i would be happy |
| 12:59.00 | purplepenguins | i don't know what enable-service is |
| 12:59.04 | karme | purplepenguins: and one that where the settings survives updates |
| 12:59.13 | karme | purplepenguins: well the name suggests it no? |
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| 12:59.31 | purplepenguins | i can imagine what it is supposed to _do_ |
| 12:59.38 | purplepenguins | is it a gnome thing? |
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| 12:59.58 | karme | purplepenguins: it is a theoretical thing |
| 13:00.02 | maligor | Johnny2, try a older netinst image :P |
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| 13:00.28 | purplepenguins | okay |
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| 13:00.40 | maligor | Johnny2, or if's installed already, use the rescue mode |
| 13:01.30 | karme | i guess sysv-rc-conf is exactly what i was looking for |
| 13:01.33 | maligor | Johnny2, actually, since you said it tries to install grub, I guess it is installed, you should be able to finish it in rescue mode |
| 13:01.55 | maligor | Johnny2, you should install 'diff' package in rescue mode and then install grub |
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| 13:03.14 | Johnny2 | maligor: ah. i found a bug had already been filed on this. i'll just try again with the older image. i just got out of bed and downloaded the daily build by mistake |
| 13:03.27 | Johnny2 | maligor: apparently it's only been a problem since 2 days ago :) |
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| 13:04.00 | Johnny2 | maligor: downloading the older one and trying your suggestion at the same time |
| 13:04.03 | Johnny2 | maligor: thanks |
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| 13:10.03 | PSIclaudia | Hi.I am have a hard time finding an oldstable (net-install.iso) |
| 13:10.09 | garotosopa | Hi. Would anyone suggest a better way to limit apt-get download rate other than using trickle? |
| 13:11.41 | PSIclaudia | Are there still any out-there? |
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| 13:13.25 | dutchfish | PSIclaudia, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 13:14.06 | PSIclaudia | Thanks alot!! dutchfish |
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| 13:14.40 | dutchfish | garotosopa, limiting (packet-shaping) is not easy doable on every debina box, its normally done in your networks firewall (QOS) |
| 13:14.50 | dutchfish | s/debina/debian |
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| 13:15.58 | dutchfish | PSIclaudia, i have done that with a specialized firewall linux, if you want an easy way out take a peak at smoothwall express |
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| 13:16.24 | dutchfish | oops the last was for garotosopa |
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| 13:16.41 | PSIclaudia | :D thought so |
| 13:16.45 | garotosopa | dutchfish: it's just a home setup actually, there's no network firewall or others debian boxes. |
| 13:17.07 | dutchfish | garotosopa, then trickle is the only way i know |
| 13:17.20 | dutchfish | garotosopa, aprat form kernel hackely |
| 13:17.39 | garotosopa | dutchfish: trickle looks like a good option now hehe |
| 13:17.47 | tassoman | is there some good howto install into USB pendrive and ram? |
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| 13:18.04 | ilaiho | can anyone tell what creates these things: http://pastebin.com/m23f6f360 |
| 13:18.07 | ilaiho | kmail? |
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| 13:20.13 | NekawA | okay reinstalling gnome didn't help I keep getting "xf86MapVidMem: Could not mmap framebuffer (0xef000000,0x10000) (Invalid argument)" |
| 13:20.19 | NekawA | anyone have any ideas i know this is something w/ xorg |
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| 13:22.49 | dutchfish | tassoman, you mean like this? http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto/USB |
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| 13:27.26 | tassoman | dutchfish, no I would install to a pendrive static files and having swap and tmp files into ram. To get a silent home server |
| 13:27.57 | dutchfish | tassoman, yep, debian live can do that |
| 13:29.40 | tassoman | dutchfish, is it minimal? i have a tiny 1gb usbpen |
| 13:29.58 | dutchfish | tassoman, you can scissertail th einnner sby building your own live image, everything is tweakable |
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| 13:30.27 | dutchfish | tassoman, yes, mimimal is a standard image you can download right away |
| 13:30.51 | dutchfish | tassoman, if you need your own packages you can build your own image |
| 13:31.14 | tassoman | dutchfish, would be a bet .. |
| 13:31.20 | tassoman | live? |
| 13:31.40 | tassoman | http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/ is it? |
| 13:31.55 | dutchfish | tassoman, well start here reading up http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive |
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| 13:32.43 | tassoman | would be good also for thin clients :q |
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| 13:33.53 | dutchfish | tassoman, pxe + netboot + debianlive .... ;) |
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| 13:34.27 | NekawA | "Sep 5 09:31:54 inmideb gnome-keyring-daemon[6170]: failed to initialize a HAL context: (null)" - would this stop gnome from loading? |
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| 13:35.20 | dutchfish | NekawA, what debian version and kernel version? |
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| 13:36.46 | NekawA | lenny 5.0.2 2.6.26-2-xen-686 |
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| 13:37.10 | dutchfish | NekawA, and thats the dom-0 right? |
| 13:37.19 | NekawA | any help would be greatly appreciated i've reinstalled gnome and it still isn't working |
| 13:37.23 | NekawA | yea, dom0 |
| 13:37.54 | dutchfish | NekawA, sigh, if you insist installing a graphical desktop in dom-0 thne use the older kernel |
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| 13:38.37 | dutchfish | NekawA, 2.6.18 |
| 13:38.41 | NekawA | it worked before |
| 13:39.24 | dutchfish | NekawA, have you upgraded the kernel with the latest security fixes? |
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| 13:39.59 | adb | tassoman, take a look at http://packages.debian.org/sid/debirf too |
| 13:40.03 | NekawA | i believes o i do apt-get upgrade frequently if they're in stable i'd have 'em |
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| 13:43.17 | NekawA | i do know i recently changed hvc0 back to tty0 |
| 13:43.20 | NekawA | maybe that's what messed it up |
| 13:43.25 | tassoman | adb, thanks |
| 13:43.35 | adb | yw |
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| 13:44.13 | dutchfish | NekawA, you could try linux-image-2.6.26-2-686-bigmem, i have found some unresolved problems in the no-bigmem one |
| 13:44.54 | dutchfish | NekawA, how much mem is in your system? |
| 13:45.21 | NekawA | not alot, but it ran before |
| 13:45.39 | dutchfish | NekawA, how much exactly? |
| 13:46.18 | NekawA | 512 |
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| 13:46.37 | dutchfish | NekawA, i ask this because the lower-limit-boundary for the dom-0 has been shifted upwards |
| 13:47.09 | dutchfish | NekawA, how much you reserve for dom-0 after all the vm's are started? |
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| 13:48.43 | NekawA | dom0 has 400 right now |
| 13:49.03 | NekawA | it was running fine before i removed some packages due to running out of room on / after compiling some sourcecodes |
| 13:49.14 | dutchfish | NekawA, thats fine it needs ~256 to work properly |
| 13:49.34 | NekawA | only thing I can thinkof that i changed is the inittab |
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| 13:49.39 | dutchfish | NekawA, "out of room" you mean inside your vm's? |
| 13:50.02 | NekawA | no on the dom0 root hard-drive |
| 13:50.08 | dutchfish | NekawA, ouch |
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| 13:50.34 | NekawA | yea i was pissed, did some removing w/ debfoster thought everything was okay, until power went out last night and it rebooted |
| 13:50.39 | dutchfish | NekawA, did you ran i file check? |
| 13:51.03 | jvogel | anyone know why portmap hangs on restart? |
| 13:51.08 | dutchfish | NekawA, without any vm's running that is |
| 13:51.12 | NekawA | fsck failed, had to do it manually, but yea it fixed it |
| 13:51.25 | dutchfish | NekawA, you need ta least run in twice |
| 13:51.35 | NekawA | lol i had to run it 5 times to fix everything |
| 13:51.38 | jMCg | This is fascinatingly frustrating. I have created an bootable stick with http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ -- but it keeps on insisting to load some crap for a CD which DOES NOT EXIST, and then, of course, fails to continue. |
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| 13:51.55 | dutchfish | NekawA, pff... hard to tell now what messe dit up |
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| 13:52.12 | dutchfish | NekawA, you have backups i assume |
| 13:52.21 | NekawA | of course.. |
| 13:52.24 | jpinx | jMCg: you need to use the USB image from debian.org |
| 13:52.28 | NekawA | time to start untarring huh |
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| 13:53.14 | jMCg | jpinx: yes honey, I do. I did. And it wouldn't boot. |
| 13:53.34 | dutchfish | NekawA, yes, thta might be the quickest way, normally i dont run anything then a bare system in dom-0, i do the fancy stuff in vm's |
| 13:53.47 | jpinx | jMCg: I have used that image with great success - no CD issues |
| 13:54.02 | jMCg | No wait, it booted, but then failed to actually acomplish anything. |
| 13:54.36 | jMCg | But only after I cat-ed it under a Linux Live CD, because under Windows there ain't no such thing as cat, or dd.. |
| 13:54.47 | NekawA | lemme try rebooting after changing inittab back brb |
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| 13:55.53 | jpinx | jMCg: there are methods for dd-ing in windows |
| 13:56.09 | jpinx | read the installation manual in debian.org |
| 13:56.22 | dutchfish | NekawA, ok |
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| 13:57.15 | NekawA | hmm..think i changed default runlevel too |
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| 13:57.39 | jMCg | jpinx: been there, done that: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 13:58.56 | jpinx | jMCg: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual |
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| 14:07.56 | jMCg | YAY. NOC calling me. Great. |
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| 14:08.17 | NekawA | ridiculous |
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| 14:09.57 | rumpsy | hi installed debian..after completion... My x fail to start |
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| 14:12.10 | deface | and you failed to read why |
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| 14:13.22 | macrobat | rumpsy: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 14:14.01 | rumpsy | ho.. okay |
| 14:14.18 | rumpsy | What will happen if i give this command... |
| 14:14.33 | rumpsy | I try to give startx |
| 14:14.40 | rumpsy | But nothing happens.. |
| 14:14.47 | jpinx | sheesh - that is a huge update/safe-upgrade after only a couple of weeks |
| 14:14.55 | macrobat | i think you need more all around linux knowledge, rumpsy |
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| 14:15.13 | rumpsy | macrobat: hi |
| 14:15.26 | macrobat | read up on simple bash commands :) |
| 14:15.39 | rumpsy | cool... |
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| 14:16.36 | rumpsy | macrobat: i do |
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| 14:18.22 | rumpsy | macrobat: where can get useful bash commands... |
| 14:18.53 | macrobat | just google for bash tutorial or something like that |
| 14:19.01 | dutchfish | rumpsy, http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ |
| 14:19.02 | rumpsy | ya... |
| 14:20.14 | rumpsy | macrobat: and another thing.. i pasted some files in root folder.... how can i give permission to that folder and subfolder and files |
| 14:20.38 | rumpsy | I want to access those files in user made... |
| 14:20.43 | dutchfish | rumpsy, you supposed to not allow others then root |
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| 14:21.28 | rumpsy | There is only one user! |
| 14:21.30 | dutchfish | rumpsy, but why not copy them over and chmod them in the user home dir? |
| 14:21.39 | jvogel | how do i properly configre my loopback? |
| 14:21.42 | jvogel | i cant ping localhost.. |
| 14:21.43 | rumpsy | so he want to access that file |
| 14:22.24 | dutchfish | jvogel, is lo up? |
| 14:22.36 | rumpsy | dutchfish: oops i don't that! |
| 14:22.37 | jvogel | yea but its not configured right |
| 14:22.56 | dutchfish | jvogel, check /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 14:23.07 | rumpsy | dutchfish: can you tell me how to do that... |
| 14:23.09 | jvogel | dutchfish: i just updated that, now what do i do? |
| 14:23.15 | jvogel | dutchfish: how do i fix it without restarting |
| 14:23.21 | jvogel | or should i just restart |
| 14:23.25 | dutchfish | jvogel, /etc/init.d/network restart ? |
| 14:23.28 | jvogel | o |
| 14:23.30 | jvogel | thx |
| 14:23.43 | rumpsy | dutchfish:it contains mp3 songs |
| 14:24.04 | jvogel | dutchfish: lo still isnt working right |
| 14:24.09 | rumpsy | dutchfish: my brother wants to acces that... |
| 14:24.19 | jvogel | i put in there |
| 14:24.20 | jvogel | auto lo |
| 14:24.26 | jvogel | iface lo inet loopback |
| 14:25.14 | dutchfish | jvogel, sounds about right |
| 14:25.22 | jvogel | yeah it still doesnt work tho |
| 14:25.34 | dutchfish | jvogel, what does ifconfig tells you? |
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| 14:25.48 | jvogel | uh |
| 14:26.00 | macrobat | rumpsy: login as root and copy the files to your /home/user folder, then do chown rumpsy:rumpsy file |
| 14:26.07 | dutchfish | jvogel, ifconfig |
| 14:26.09 | jvogel | normally |
| 14:26.11 | jvogel | yea i know |
| 14:26.18 | jvogel | normally it gives you for lo 127.0.0.1 |
| 14:26.21 | jvogel | but it doesnt give me an address |
| 14:26.26 | rumpsy | dutchfish: thnx... i do |
| 14:26.29 | NekawA | is restoring back to 2 days ago, i really hope this works |
| 14:26.50 | dutchfish | jvogel, check /etc/hosts |
| 14:26.51 | mythomaniac | i'm using debian lenny biz net install to install squeeze and when i come to the end of the install it fails to install grub, anyway to get it to install grub? |
| 14:27.03 | jvogel | dutchfish: it has in there 127.0.0.1 localhost |
| 14:27.12 | dutchfish | jvogel, 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost |
| 14:27.22 | jvogel | also |
| 14:27.27 | jvogel | i have not given my machine a name yet |
| 14:27.27 | DeSian | !tell mythomaniac about grub |
| 14:27.29 | dutchfish | aslo? |
| 14:27.33 | dutchfish | also? |
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| 14:27.47 | jvogel | in addition to |
| 14:27.53 | dutchfish | jvogel, ah ok |
| 14:27.57 | jvogel | should i name it |
| 14:28.24 | dutchfish | jvogel, yes, check that hostanme -f gives out the right host.domain/ext syntax |
| 14:28.28 | mythomaniac | DeSian, i cannot seem to ever get past this point, and i have tried it several times... |
| 14:28.35 | dutchfish | s/hostanme/hostname |
| 14:28.59 | jvogel | dutchfish: yea it does |
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| 14:29.44 | dutchfish | jvogel, then it should work |
| 14:30.12 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 14:30.12 | maher | are the debian kernel snapshots still hosted on buildserver.net? i don't seem to be able to connect to it |
| 14:30.24 | dutchfish | jvogel, did check if you ping 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost? |
| 14:31.06 | jvogel | dutchfish: yes |
| 14:31.13 | dutchfish | jvogel, and? |
| 14:31.17 | jvogel | but lo is just not configred |
| 14:31.20 | jvogel | i know how lo nromallyh looks |
| 14:31.22 | jvogel | and it doesnt look right |
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| 14:31.47 | jvogel | now it works |
| 14:31.47 | dutchfish | jvogel, can you paste it to pastebin? |
| 14:31.52 | dutchfish | jvogel, ah |
| 14:31.57 | jvogel | i did dhclient lo just to see |
| 14:31.59 | jvogel | and then i stopped it |
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| 14:32.00 | jvogel | and now it works/ |
| 14:32.03 | jvogel | that doesnt make sense |
| 14:32.15 | dutchfish | have you now 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ? |
| 14:32.24 | dutchfish | in /etc/hosts ? |
| 14:32.35 | jvogel | hold on |
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| 14:33.03 | jvogel | dutchfish: no just 127.0.0.1 localhost |
| 14:33.11 | dutchfish | jvogel, change it |
| 14:33.21 | jvogel | dutchfish: why? |
| 14:33.38 | jvogel | brb |
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| 14:33.47 | dutchfish | ok |
| 14:34.39 | ajavid | good morning |
| 14:34.45 | ajavid | whats going on in the world of #debian |
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| 14:35.40 | nekro\star | ajavid: whats going on with u |
| 14:35.58 | ajavid | I just woke up |
| 14:36.15 | nekro\star | i'm sitting on top of a dozen and a half clusters representing 45-50gbits of activity constantly.. ;) |
| 14:36.19 | ajavid | I love my debian system, as soon asI wake up I get on it |
| 14:36.22 | ajavid | wow |
| 14:36.26 | nekro\star | unfortunately they all run ubuntu. |
| 14:36.30 | ajavid | nekro\star, awww |
| 14:36.31 | nekro\star | except the windows boxes. |
| 14:36.31 | ajavid | :( |
| 14:36.36 | nekro\star | :/ |
| 14:36.40 | ajavid | AWWWw even more Awwww |
| 14:36.45 | nekro\star | CDN |
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| 14:36.50 | nekro\star | we HAVE to have windows boxes |
| 14:37.00 | nekro\star | you just cant do WMS proper from a vm |
| 14:37.02 | ajavid | you ever tried to make a cluster in debian ? |
| 14:37.08 | ajavid | for yoruself? toys? hobby? |
| 14:37.45 | ajavid | one time I went to the dumpster and got 7 1ghz machines, 512 mb ram, compaq mini clients, some local bank threw em away, I grabbed em |
| 14:37.51 | ajavid | this was in oklahoma when I was in college |
| 14:37.56 | nekro\star | ajavid: yeah |
| 14:37.57 | ajavid | I made a cluster |
| 14:38.01 | ajavid | :D |
| 14:38.13 | nekro\star | i worked at a DC that liked ubu; got to build a few centos+winshit+debian clusters |
| 14:38.18 | nekro\star | some were mixed os's |
| 14:38.26 | ajavid | nekro\star, what have ou used? |
| 14:38.27 | nekro\star | this one i'm sitting on top of is mixed os's and its a supercluster |
| 14:38.29 | ranix | peobably use more electricity than air conditioners |
| 14:38.32 | ajavid | mosix? monkey? |
| 14:38.37 | nekro\star | ajavid: i've used EVERYTHING i'm fairly certain. |
| 14:38.45 | nekro\star | but some like solaris was very limited |
| 14:38.55 | nekro\star | only had to deal with that for troubleshooting mail servers for a single host. |
| 14:39.01 | nekro\star | er single client. |
| 14:39.10 | ajavid | i like monkey |
| 14:39.10 | superjet_busy | dosemu totally no sund after done something according to /usr/share/doc/dosemu.. in lenny, does it need special steps? |
| 14:39.14 | ajavid | I've tried open mosix |
| 14:39.25 | ajavid | !dosemu |
| 14:39.25 | dpkg | well, dosemu is a DOS emulator for Linux. If you X, graphical DOS programs will be much easier to run than if you set up dosemu to do graphics at the console. Dosemu is kind of buggy and doesn't play games well, ask me about <dosbox>. |
| 14:39.32 | ajavid | !dosbox |
| 14:39.32 | dpkg | hmm... dosbox is an open-source x86 emulator designed to run old <DOS> games under unsupported platforms. Packaged for Debian, see /usr/share/doc/dosbox/README.Debian regarding Debian-specific changes. See also http://www.markus-raab.org/Howtos/Hardware/midi regarding sound. http://dosbox.com/wiki/FAQ http://www.dosbox.com/ #dosbox on irc.freenode.net. |
| 14:39.38 | ajavid | superjet_busy, there ya go |
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| 14:39.43 | nekro\star | !penis |
| 14:39.43 | dpkg | [penis] what your mom has, or what your dad has, either one |
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| 14:39.48 | nekro\star | :> |
| 14:39.54 | nekro\star | good ol dpkg ::pets:: |
| 14:40.00 | superjet_busy | ajavid: dosbox rather slower than dosemu |
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| 14:40.42 | superjet_busy | ajavid: though I using dosbox under windows... |
| 14:40.46 | ajavid | I go by the factoids |
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| 14:40.53 | ajavid | superjet_busy, more often than not, dpkg knows best. |
| 14:41.01 | smacnay | Hmmm.... does the following option exclude ~/.Virtualbox from being backed up with rdiff-backup: "--exclude ./.Virtualbox" ? |
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| 14:42.34 | jaggz | konqueror's view source is popping up audacity (my sound editor).. |
| 14:42.36 | jaggz | wth |
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| 14:49.23 | ajavid | whick kde |
| 14:49.24 | jaggz | fixed. it's text/html but for viewing the source they use text/plain, and in the file associations (KDE Components -> File Associations -> text/plain) audacity was there... |
| 14:49.39 | jaggz | not 4.. |
| 14:49.44 | Saz|Laptop | any suggestion for a channel to go to that can help me with hard drive forensics |
| 14:50.12 | Saz|Laptop | trying to recover a file off of an NTFS fileystem and as usual ##windows is being unhelpful |
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| 14:55.25 | jaggz | 3.5.10 but I guess it doesn't matter at this point |
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| 14:55.47 | jaggz | saz, not sure.. have you tried mounting it in linux or as a second drive in windows and unerase? |
| 14:56.05 | jaggz | what'd you find in webpages? |
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| 14:56.52 | d_b | Is it possible to send the output of for example ls straight to the clipboard? |
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| 15:00.53 | jaggz | d_b ooh ooh.. xclip |
| 15:01.01 | asg | d_b: use the xclip package |
| 15:01.35 | d_b | jaggz: asg: thanks, will look it up |
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| 15:01.53 | jaggz | xclip is underused :) |
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| 15:03.23 | nvz | I have an issue on this netbook where even if I just have my minisd->sd adapter inserted into the storage expansion slot without a card into it, debian finds it as sda on boot or resume. This of course causes a kernel panic because fstab is telling the kernel to mount the rootfs /dev/sda2 which should normally be the internal sata drive. How do you solve that problem? |
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| 15:04.00 | asg | nvz: remove it from the available boot list in the bios |
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| 15:04.37 | nvz | asg: I had that thought.. though I wasn't sure if it would work, and I thought udev might have a way of assuring that didn't happen |
| 15:04.46 | nvz | asg: it IS obviously the BIOS doing it |
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| 15:04.53 | asg | nvz: also, use UUID's in fstab (/msg dpkg uuid) |
| 15:05.00 | nvz | however it doesn't effect windows or grub booting |
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| 15:05.18 | nvz | ah.. uuids.. |
| 15:05.57 | jaggz | I setup some scripts which look at the contents of the clipboard to perform actions.. this way when I work on a project I can hit a keystroke, it checks if the path is one it recognizes for this project, and performs a particular action. Or, for example, win-u will look at it and see if it's one of the member accounts on a service and go pop up the webpage for admin of that user. |
| 15:06.02 | krsna | when i install aumix for oss then i get the message "FATAL: Module snd_seq_oss not found." I cant install this module with modprobe either, what shall i do? |
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| 15:06.54 | d_b | Hm, when I use xclip some characters come out weird. Ã for example |
| 15:07.35 | jaggz | you might not be seeing them properly in your term .. maybe they're unicode left and right "" and stuff |
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| 15:08.48 | krsna | its kernel 2.6.30 and there is no directory oss in /lib/modules/2.6.30-1-686/kernel/sound/ |
| 15:08.48 | d_b | jaggz: no I see them properly in gnome terminal, it's just when sending to the clipboard they look messed up |
| 15:09.05 | jaggz | how do you see them from cb? |
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| 15:10.36 | d_b | can't really show since it looks different when I paste it here :) the character is à and it looks like à and a square symbol after with 4 numbers within. 0026(?) |
| 15:10.49 | d_b | ÃÂ |
| 15:10.56 | d_b | that's what it looks like when I paste it here |
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| 15:14.16 | jpinx | Ã |
| 15:14.28 | themill | d_b: someone is misinterpreting UTF-8 as ISO8859-1 (or possibly vice versa) |
| 15:14.45 | jpinx | AltGr shift A |
| 15:14.49 | themill | d_b: most likely the thing you're pasting into |
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| 15:15.47 | jaggz | krsna, locate snd_seq_oss? |
| 15:16.16 | jaggz | I don't see it as a kernel module.. it's in /sys/module/<lots of locations> |
| 15:16.25 | jaggz | I have no idea what sys/module is |
| 15:17.26 | d_b | themill: I get the same result in a gajim chat window and gedit. Guess I can just go back to doing ls > file.txt opening and copying the content though. not like it was that troublesome :) |
| 15:17.58 | themill | or just stick to ascii filenames ;) |
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| 15:19.22 | krsna | jaggz it is not there, locate does not give any result. where can i download it (the module) from? (possibly i could simply put it into /lib/modules/2.6.30-1-686/kernel/sound/core/oss/ ?) |
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| 15:22.07 | enmerkar_ | krsna: did you build your own kernel? |
| 15:22.16 | konr|afk | Hmmm, my xmodmap command is not being run by xsession. Any idea why? |
| 15:22.33 | jaggz | well, since it's in /sys/ I don't think it's an actual file right? but I don't know what provides that module |
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| 15:22.42 | enmerkar_ | konr|afk: how do you start x? |
| 15:22.51 | ajavid | startx |
| 15:22.52 | konr|afk | enmerkar_: using GDM |
| 15:23.13 | krsna | enmerkar_ its a recent netinstall and therefore the kernel 2.6.30 |
| 15:23.16 | nvz | asg: thanks for the slap in the right direction. Now I gotta find the motivation to apply a two-line fix for that, and then get to work on fixing the rfkill issue for wireless, and maybe see what I can do to improve framerates on this shitty mobile intel graphics. :-P |
| 15:23.16 | Loafers | How to delete Computer, Trashcan, and Home from Desktop? |
| 15:23.16 | enmerkar_ | konr|afk: i don't think gnome uses ~/.xsession |
| 15:23.25 | ajavid | Loafers, which desktop |
| 15:23.47 | ajavid | Loafers, kde, or gnome? in kde just go to ~/Desktop and delete the .desktop files |
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| 15:23.52 | konr|afk | enmerkar_: hmm, I'm running xmonad... X run all commands, it is just xmodmap that is skipped |
| 15:23.58 | nvz | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) |
| 15:24.03 | nvz | whoo hoo |
| 15:24.06 | Loafers | ajavid, I just did a fresh install and i can't remove those computer, home, trash icons on background wallpaper |
| 15:24.07 | nvz | high tech stuff there |
| 15:24.20 | ajavid | nvz, my old box |
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| 15:24.26 | ajavid | Host 'ajavid-desktop', running Linux 2.6.30-bpo.1-amd64 - Cpu0: Intel 3010 MHz Cpu1: Intel 3010 MHz; Up: 14:02; Users: 2; Load: 2.83; Free: [Mem: 78/8006 Mio] [Swap: 0/0 Mio] [/: 23260/30035 Mio] [/home/ajavid: 115533/938899 Mio]; Vpenis: 543.3 cm; |
| 15:24.30 | jaggz | tt |
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| 15:24.44 | ajavid | nvz, my sid machine has 3.8ghz c2quad and 16gb ;) |
| 15:24.52 | nvz | ajavid: yeah well thats a desktop.. this is a netbook |
| 15:24.59 | ajavid | oh word |
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| 15:25.14 | ajavid | nvz, I just hooked up my phone to computer, im happy |
| 15:25.15 | asg | nvz: what kind of netbook? |
| 15:25.41 | nvz | my only remaining concern after fixing the minor kernel panic due to sd card issue, and wireless, is getting at least as many fps in SL on linux as on windows |
| 15:25.46 | nvz | asg: AspireOne |
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| 15:26.07 | asg | ah, okay |
| 15:26.24 | nvz | windows xp runs like crap on here.. even just booting, the windows startup sound skipps for fucks sake |
| 15:26.27 | ajavid | for the life of me I can't get my phone detected in ipod |
| 15:26.30 | ajavid | Imean, itrunes |
| 15:26.36 | ajavid | oh wtf am I tlaking ab... amarok |
| 15:26.43 | nvz | I've been using debian since I got it for any and all MM application |
| 15:26.44 | ajavid | geez. |
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| 15:27.18 | ajavid | Yes, amarok will not detect my phone sitll, though it shows up in side kde media devices and such |
| 15:27.19 | nvz | but since the wireless isnt fully working and the SL framerate is low.. I find myself booting windows more often |
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| 15:27.21 | ajavid | storage devices |
| 15:27.26 | zero-1 | Hi everyone |
| 15:27.33 | ajavid | zero-1, hi |
| 15:27.34 | nvz | goes to show that I use my computers mostly for internet related tasks |
| 15:27.46 | zero-1 | so what are you actually discussing? |
| 15:27.49 | d1b | nvz: ? |
| 15:27.54 | ajavid | zero-1, debian |
| 15:27.56 | d1b | this is a support channel. |
| 15:28.01 | d1b | !offtopic |
| 15:28.01 | dpkg | A little off-topic conversation is okay here and there, but not too much, and not when the channel's busy, and not if it's your primary reason for being here. Please join #debian-offtopic |
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| 15:28.05 | ajavid | zero-1, asking about kde 3.5 |
| 15:28.16 | ajavid | zero-1, actually trying to get my phone to be detected in amarok |
| 15:28.32 | zero-1 | ok, and what kind of phone is that? |
| 15:28.33 | nvz | I gotta go check my kernel configs and roll me a new one. later. |
| 15:28.39 | ajavid | Samsung |
| 15:28.49 | ajavid | A737 (cheap multimedia phone) |
| 15:28.55 | ajavid | I broke up mine in the water :( |
| 15:29.31 | ajavid | but it does have 2GB storage |
| 15:29.34 | zero-1 | oh sorry to hear that, have you checked the posibility of a kernel module for your phone out there? |
| 15:29.47 | ajavid | well its a usb device right |
| 15:30.01 | ajavid | so when I plugin dmesg it shows up, and I had to modprobe usb-storage module too |
| 15:30.09 | ajavid | and then it shows in Konqueror Storage Devices |
| 15:30.15 | ajavid | but I can't access it, I click it and nothing happens |
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| 15:30.31 | ajavid | I also can't get it to detect in amarok, I been looking for drivers and on google since yesterday afternoon |
| 15:30.35 | ajavid | no luck yet |
| 15:31.02 | zero-1 | ok but you that module is only mounting it as a mass storage device right? |
| 15:31.02 | themill | ajavid: can you mount it? |
| 15:31.09 | krsna | where can i get this module snd_seq_oss so that i put it into the modules directory? |
| 15:31.13 | ajavid | themill, it isn't given a node |
| 15:31.27 | ajavid | themill, thats the thing, if it is, dmesg isn't telling me, and I can't find it in /dev |
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| 15:31.45 | zero-1 | I mean, for instance I have a berry which even having the usb-storage module I need another set of packages to charge it from usb and mount it |
| 15:31.56 | ajavid | thats what I had |
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| 15:32.22 | ajavid | I was urinating and talking on the phone and it dropped in the toilet... |
| 15:32.32 | ajavid | I had to fish it out and take out the sim and throw away the phone |
| 15:32.39 | ajavid | then I got this piece of shit |
| 15:32.45 | ajavid | is irritated. |
| 15:33.13 | krsna | anybody has a clue why snd_seq_oss is missing in 2.6.30, which is needed for aumix? |
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| 15:33.28 | ajavid | krsna, i never noticed |
| 15:33.34 | zero-1 | no idea havent tried 2.6.30 yet |
| 15:34.04 | zero-1 | sorry ajavid cant help you there, but try looking for additional modules or pacakges related to that phone |
| 15:34.09 | ajavid | hm.. it doesn't seem to be in the kernel |
| 15:34.14 | ajavid | zero-1, np |
| 15:34.15 | zero-1 | can you do a lspci and check if its listed? |
| 15:34.27 | ajavid | zero-1, hardly anyone on googl ehas been able to make it work on linux |
| 15:34.28 | zero-1 | if your usb is pci then it should be there |
| 15:34.32 | krsna | where can i download this module to put it into /lib/modules/ ? |
| 15:34.38 | ajavid | buncha threads on ubuntu, and other distros people using this phone |
| 15:34.45 | ajavid | I have not yet found one thread of success |
| 15:34.59 | zero-1 | do an lspci and let me see what it sasys |
| 15:35.44 | zero-1 | krnsa, you would need to install build-essential linux headers, and put the source under /usr/src and compile from there (in most cases this is how it works) |
| 15:35.47 | ajavid | zero-1, you mean lsusb |
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| 15:36.01 | zero-1 | ajavid, sure that would work too |
| 15:36.12 | krsna | zero-1 i see. where do i get the source? |
| 15:36.24 | ajavid | Bus 004 Device 005: ID 04e8:6601 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd Z100 Mobile Phone |
| 15:36.37 | ajavid | zero-1, that is ALL that would work actualy |
| 15:36.42 | ajavid | zero-1, lspci != lsusb |
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| 15:37.34 | ajavid | [51303.892553] usb 4-2: Product: SAMSUNG Mobile Modem |
| 15:37.41 | ajavid | wtf.. now it is detected as a modem?!!!\ |
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| 15:38.48 | zero-1 | checking ... |
| 15:39.26 | ajavid | [ 1819.903869] cdc_acm: probe of 4-2:1.0 failed with error -16 |
| 15:39.28 | ajavid | [ 1824.688532] usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 4 |
| 15:40.39 | ajavid | [51482.616552] usb 4-2: Manufacturer: SAMSUNG MTP Device |
| 15:40.53 | ajavid | now its detected as an MTP device (I changed to Media Player USB connectivity) |
| 15:41.12 | ajavid | now it pops up on KDE, do i want to mount it, medium type, Camera |
| 15:41.15 | ajavid | :( |
| 15:41.33 | ajavid | The process for the camera://usb:004,007 protocol died unexpectedly. |
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| 15:43.29 | brakkvatn | Hello. I am following a guide on making a debian install usb ( http://linux.simple.be/debian/usb ). But on the last step (fsck.msdos) I get some questions from the program. What should I choose? |
| 15:43.51 | brakkvatn | "Copy original to backup" or "Copy backup to original" or "No action" |
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| 15:45.13 | adb | brakkvatn, /msg dpkg usb install |
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| 15:46.04 | brakkvatn | adb: Thank you for spending your valuable time answering my question, but that's not an answer to my question. |
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| 15:48.00 | adb | is linux.simple.be the official voice of usb install ? |
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| 15:50.09 | brakkvatn | adb: I think we both know the answer to that question. |
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| 15:51.04 | conky_ | 19:50 CTCP VERSION reply from iDangerMouse: ChatZilla 0.9.84 [Firefox |
| 15:51.38 | oxi | can anyone remember how to see all exports? |
| 15:51.51 | oxi | I mean all environment variables |
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| 15:52.33 | oxi | ah, printenv :-) |
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| 15:53.51 | pistache_ | env |
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| 15:54.23 | apostle | trying to install docbookeasy on debian...getting error DB Error: MDB2 Error: not found |
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| 16:03.28 | gum2tux | Debian use ALSA as its sound driver, VMware products require Open Sound System (OSS), so what Debian packages can solve this problem ? |
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| 16:03.51 | coolzerro | ÑÑка |
| 16:04.22 | mhymn | gum2tux: alsa-oss ? |
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| 16:05.39 | malchias | for hosting wordpress sites in a shared environment which vanilla kernel is recommended? - I know this is a vague question |
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| 16:07.07 | malchias | is the 2.6.26 kernel fine? |
| 16:07.16 | gum2tux | I cannot play sound from Vmware Guest system, bcos i was told Vmware server is using OSS, and debian uses ALSA, but both cannot work together, i don't know how to solve this issue. Please help. |
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| 16:07.27 | jelly-home | malchias: shared webhosting machines can benefit from a properly configured grsecurity patched kernel |
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| 16:08.11 | malchias | that something I have to compile myself? |
| 16:08.43 | jelly-home | malchias: yes, but vanilla kernel is also something you have to compile yourself |
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| 16:10.19 | malchias | http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Grsecurity/Obtaining_grsecurity reading this - but will there be other problems because of the kernel difference? |
| 16:10.27 | malchias | ie - databases, permissions, etc |
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| 16:13.45 | conky_ | oxi: also set |
| 16:13.50 | conky_ | iirc |
| 16:13.59 | malchias | will this mess with updates from debian repo at all? |
| 16:14.00 | oxi | conky_: thanks |
| 16:14.06 | conky_ | yup |
| 16:14.12 | conky_ | set does a good list ;) |
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| 16:14.28 | conky_ | !apt-pin > malchias |
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| 16:15.23 | malchias | ty |
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| 16:19.59 | kolpur | is there any tool to record the live videos from http://ustream.tv |
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| 16:25.49 | poisonbit | dh-make-perl could be more cool with a --license 'foo' |
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| 16:27.02 | DexterF | hi |
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| 16:27.38 | DexterF | installed iceweasel on lenny, tried to install AdBlock Plus. site says "upgrade FF to use thsi add-on". uh? |
| 16:28.01 | DexterF | ah, nvm, just saw ABP 1.1.1 need FF 3.0.9+ |
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| 16:38.42 | dutchfish | hi after the last update of squeeze today i have no longer sound (yes, i have right in audio group and yes vol is up and not muted) see please: http://debian.pastebin.com/m4e167255 |
| 16:40.03 | dutchfish | the funny thing is it worked prefectly before te update |
| 16:41.21 | adb | usually a keep listen something when i update .. |
| 16:42.18 | dutchfish | adb, pardon, i dont understand what you mean? |
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| 16:43.38 | dutchfish | adb, you mean ou want logs of the update process? |
| 16:43.52 | adb | no, |
| 16:44.01 | dhodgkin | is there a reason why Firefox is not included in Debian? I know Iceweasel is the same thing, but is Firefox not considered free? |
| 16:44.20 | pipeline_ | dhodgkin: the branding isn't free |
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| 16:44.34 | pipeline_ | dhodgkin: the logo, the name, etc are all property of mozilla, inc. And they're pretty restrictive about how you use the name and loog. |
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| 16:44.53 | dhodgkin | pipeline_: AH! That explains it. Thanks. |
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| 16:45.02 | pipeline_ | dhodgkin: distributions that include the Mozilla TM branded Firefox TM either cut special agreements with mozilla inc, or they put up with the very restrictive terms offered to the public. |
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| 16:48.01 | dutchfish | adb, its either in aptitude:[OPWAARDEREN] gstreamer0.10-alsa 0.10.23-3 -> 0.10.24-1 or aptitude:[OPWAARDEREN] alsa-utils 1.0.20-2 -> 1.0.20-3 |
| 16:48.20 | dutchfish | adb, before that it was recongnized |
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| 16:49.01 | dutchfish | adb, anyway thanks |
| 16:49.14 | jackweb | How to configure my printer? I did it before with System â Administration â Printing in GNOME, but now this option disappeared. What to do? |
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| 16:52.39 | adb | dutchfish, revert to last versions . install them by dpkg -i |
| 16:52.47 | hark | dutchfish: run speaker-test -c2 -twav |
| 16:53.03 | adb | s/ last/previews |
| 16:53.24 | wildc4rd_ | afternoon all |
| 16:53.34 | dutchfish | adb, i will delv into it, thanks |
| 16:54.07 | dutchfish | hark, works perfectly |
| 16:54.56 | dutchfish | hark, i suspect alsa-utils |
| 16:54.57 | twisted` | is there a live debian enviroment for usb sticks? |
| 16:55.05 | twisted` | one that doesn't require linux to be setup on the usb stick? |
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| 16:56.10 | hark | dutchfish: if you hear sound, then it's not an issue with alsa-utils |
| 16:56.22 | dutchfish | hark, ok, whats next? |
| 16:56.34 | dutchfish | hark, have you seen http://debian.pastebin.com/m4e167255 ? |
| 16:57.04 | dutchfish | !tell twisted` about debian-live |
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| 16:58.07 | dutchfish | hark, could it be gstreamer-alsa? |
| 16:59.18 | hark | dutchfish: run gstreamer-properties and see |
| 17:00.52 | dutchfish | hark, gstreamer-properties? |
| 17:01.34 | twisted` | dutchfish: thanks |
| 17:02.04 | smeea | how can i hold package from update? aptitude hold doesnt work. |
| 17:02.36 | dutchfish | !hold |
| 17:02.36 | dpkg | i guess hold is a status flag that tells the package manager not to automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package: 'echo <package> hold|dpkg --set-selections'. It is also possible to use aptitude: 'aptitude hold <package>'. Notice that the hold flag set using aptitude might be ignored by other package managers (ie Update Manager and Synaptic) but that aptitude will respect the hold set in the dpkg database. Ask me about <why aptitude>. |
| 17:02.39 | hark | smeea: /msg dpkg hold |
| 17:03.25 | gaintsura | I have a notification light on my laptop that seems to never get used, looks like a sheet of paper (assuming its for new mail notifications), Laptop is a Toshiba Satellite A215-S6804, is there any application that can toggle this light on events? |
| 17:03.51 | hark | dutchfish: you might not have it installed. anyway, sound does seem to be working for you? |
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| 17:04.27 | dutchfish | hark, nope, amarok and the multimedia-kde test does not work |
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| 17:04.46 | dutchfish | hark, no mather if i choose default or the specific device |
| 17:05.43 | pistache_ | gaintsura: setleds |
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| 17:06.10 | pistache_ | oh no |
| 17:06.14 | pistache_ | setleds won't do this |
| 17:06.23 | pistache_ | maybe acpi will help you |
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| 17:06.46 | gaintsura | pistache_: ? |
| 17:07.27 | anao | hello@all can anyone tell me to enable feedback bullets of xdm password field? PAM-Config?? |
| 17:07.30 | smeea | hmmm... i tried 'echo vim hold|dpkg --set-selections' and 'aptitude hold vim' but 'aptitude safe-upgrade' still want to update vim. what am i doing wrong? |
| 17:09.00 | hark | dutchfish: is that phonon related? |
| 17:09.50 | dutchfish | hark, i dont think so, it uses the gstreamer backend |
| 17:10.11 | dutchfish | hark, oops yes thats phonon |
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| 17:11.26 | hark | smeea: does aptitude search '~ahold' show vim? |
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| 17:12.24 | smeea | hark: yes |
| 17:12.57 | hark | smeea: use apt-get for now |
| 17:13.12 | dutchfish | hark, phonon-backend-gstreamer to be precise |
| 17:13.15 | hark | smeea: are you running squeeze? |
| 17:13.21 | gaintsura | :( I can't find any information about setting up that light :( |
| 17:13.58 | smeea | hark: sid |
| 17:14.27 | smeea | aptitude 0.4.11.11-1+b2 |
| 17:15.30 | hark | known bug with 0.4.11.11-1 at least |
| 17:16.20 | hark | smeea: check the bts |
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| 17:16.40 | smeea | hark: what is bts? |
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| 17:16.58 | hark | bug tracking system |
| 17:17.14 | smeea | hark: ok, i'll try it |
| 17:17.42 | hark | dutchfish: maybe that's it. sound seems to be working fine for you otherwise |
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| 17:18.01 | dutchfish | hark, yes, how to solve that? |
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| 17:18.40 | hark | try using the xine backend? |
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| 17:19.07 | dutchfish | hark, that would pull alot of unwanted gnome stuff in |
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| 17:22.35 | LinuxNIT | i set my dns in /etc/resolv.conf but something keeps chaning them back to the ones on my router.... how can i stop it from chaning like this? |
| 17:22.40 | dutchfish | hark, fyi pulseaudio is running and yuk cant also be heard |
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| 17:23.20 | hark | dutchfish: my only other suggestion would be to see if downgrading the gstreamer alsa package works |
| 17:23.34 | hark | dutchfish: juk also uses the same backend |
| 17:23.40 | dutchfish | hark, ok gone try that now |
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| 17:26.00 | hark | you've got phonon, gstreamer, alsa and pulseaudio there. what a mess |
| 17:27.12 | dutchfish | hark, http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org/msg26853.html |
| 17:27.39 | dutchfish | hark, downgrading did work |
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| 17:30.51 | dutchfish | hark, but that doesnt solve the alsactl init question |
| 17:31.31 | dutchfish | hark, bu tproly falling back to default was enough for the old gestreamer lib |
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| 17:31.51 | dutchfish | hark, mmmm |
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| 17:32.11 | hark | that alsactl init output is normal afaik |
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| 17:32.26 | dutchfish | hark, oh? |
| 17:32.28 | hark | i was looking at bugs.debian.org/phonon |
| 17:32.38 | dutchfish | hark, ah |
| 17:32.59 | hark | the source package is src:qt4-x11 there. no wonder i couldn't find it |
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| 17:33.26 | dutchfish | and that one is updated too |
| 17:34.16 | arvind_khadri | hi, how to setup xen under grub2 |
| 17:35.37 | hark | afk |
| 17:35.41 | dutchfish | hark, i was wrong qt4-x11 isnt updated, but alot of qt4 stuff is |
| 17:35.51 | dutchfish | hark, np |
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| 17:37.59 | dutchfish | hark, but it should have been |
| 17:38.04 | dutchfish | hark, aha |
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| 17:39.26 | hid3nax | Any ideas which of these two SCSI controllers is better: aic7892 or aic7895C ? |
| 17:39.51 | hid3nax | Both made by Adaptec, I just gave models what `lspci` gives me |
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| 17:40.22 | alexidoia | how can I set up my irqs ? |
| 17:40.38 | alexidoia | I am told of a chrt package but IÂ can find any package of that name |
| 17:41.40 | alexidoia | anyone ? |
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| 17:42.40 | jeeves_Moss | I have a list of log files, and I'm looking for a way to search through all the files in a sub directory for a string, then put the output (in crono order) into an output file. How can I do that? |
| 17:43.14 | hid3nax | So many questions tonight and no one seems to be alive here :( |
| 17:43.17 | twisted` | jeeves_Moss: grep? |
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| 17:43.50 | xoz | jeeves_Moss: grep -i string * |
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| 17:43.59 | jeeves_Moss | twisted`, this is true, but I need the syntax to search the sub directories (we have many v-hosts on one box) |
| 17:44.04 | xoz | grep -l -i string * |
| 17:44.12 | xoz | -R |
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| 17:44.38 | jeeves_Moss | xoz, will it be "grep -l -i -R 'string' * > outputfile.txt"? |
| 17:44.40 | Cerise | hi |
| 17:45.02 | xoz | jeeves_Moss: -l -R -i string |
| 17:45.20 | jeeves_Moss | xoz, but I want to put the output into a txt file |
| 17:45.36 | xoz | jeeves_Moss: yep... use > output |
| 17:45.39 | twisted` | jeeves_Moss: grep just writes to stdout |
| 17:45.53 | twisted` | so direct it |
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| 17:45.55 | betz | Hey all! |
| 17:46.14 | Cerise | i have a problem: after booting when the login screen comes up, the keyboard layout is set to english (qwerty). but after logging in it is set to german (qwertz) which i want to use. what's wrong? |
| 17:46.24 | jeeves_Moss | xoz, thanks. That's what I thought it was, but the files are huge, and I wouldn't want to tie up the server for a while on a bum command |
| 17:46.27 | xoz | jeeves_Moss: try first without redirection to check if it works |
| 17:46.40 | xoz | jeeves_Moss: use nie |
| 17:46.46 | xoz | *nice* |
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| 17:47.37 | twisted` | you can also use 'tee' instead of > |
| 17:47.40 | alexidoia | how can IÂ know what driver is used for my video card ? |
| 17:48.03 | jeeves_Moss | xoz, thanks. |
| 17:48.10 | twisted` | alexidoia: lspci -k |
| 17:48.19 | twisted` | alexidoia: or else the xorg log |
| 17:48.24 | xoz | jeeves_Moss: np |
| 17:49.21 | Alopoe | hello guys might someone knows why xen 3.4 with debian kernel 2.6.30 doesn't work for me ? |
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| 17:52.45 | alexidoia | how can know if my kernel have the -rt patch ? |
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| 17:54.18 | alexidoia | twisted`: thanks, do you know how can IÂ know if IÂ have a -rt kernel ? |
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| 17:55.11 | Loafers | How can I make Debian fonts smooth and clear like Ubuntu's? |
| 17:55.51 | alexidoia | anyone to tell me how I know if -rt patch is on ? |
| 17:56.31 | pistache_ | uname -a |
| 17:57.17 | alexidoia | pistache_: yes IÂ tried uname -r too but no sign of -rt |
| 17:57.29 | alexidoia | it will display there right ? |
| 17:57.43 | pistache_ | yes |
| 17:58.02 | Dassu | Does anybody know if it is possible to set laptop mode tools to run a script ? |
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| 18:00.08 | Sephi-Chan | Hi |
| 18:00.48 | Sephi-Chan | Someone know how to get rubygems v 1.3 in Debian 5 ? |
| 18:01.02 | Sephi-Chan | It's really boring to install Rails :/ |
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| 18:04.04 | twisted` | I keep forgettin how I can get the UUID of a disk |
| 18:04.47 | LinuxNIT | blkid i believe |
| 18:04.49 | adb | ls -al /dev/disk/by-uuid |
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| 18:06.33 | twisted` | thanks |
| 18:06.39 | twisted` | stupid macbook... grrrr the hdd died... |
| 18:06.42 | twisted` | and I need to get data off it |
| 18:06.51 | twisted` | but this stupid usb stick also won't boot my debian live thing |
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| 18:07.43 | Alopoe | any1 knows how i can use git to get the latest xen-kernel ? |
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| 18:14.25 | Evet | :) |
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| 18:20.59 | malchias | I am installing Lenny in Vmware, but it hung while getting software @ 13% ... I can drop to other terminals, but netstat, top and commands I would normally use to see what's going on aren't working. Any ideas? |
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| 18:21.20 | alexidoia | how do IÂ change my driver nvidia for nv ? |
| 18:21.35 | malchias | I can just power off and on but was hoping for something more sophisticated |
| 18:21.52 | alexidoia | I mean IÂ have a working system but the nvidia module is not compatible with the -rt kernel, so IÂ need to get rid of |
| 18:22.02 | malchias | rmmod? |
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| 18:25.06 | mythomaniac | anyone else had issues with the debian lenny 5.01 biz installer... in that when it comes to install grub it fails? |
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| 18:25.44 | malchias | myth: I'm having troubles with biz installer in vmware |
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| 18:25.55 | Stunts | im a complete terminal n00b, so i must askk, how do i install gnome from terminal, or connect my wifi card to internet so i can even dl it |
| 18:26.07 | malchias | thought it was a vmware issue .. I'll try a different iso |
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| 18:26.56 | mythomaniac | malchias, naw, i cannot install it on my system.... it been like that for a while now for me... |
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| 18:27.49 | Stunts | how do i conect my wifi card to internet and get + install gnome? |
| 18:28.28 | mythomaniac | malchias, let me know if this works http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=44497&p=253056&hilit=grub+install+fail#p253056 ;) |
| 18:29.57 | Stunts | im guessing everyone else besides mythomaniac and malchias is afk? |
| 18:30.52 | Stunts | heellooo? |
| 18:32.18 | mythomaniac | Stunts, i'm not really here... i'm an illusion |
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| 18:39.09 | malchias | stunts: look on the vendor site for linux drivers maybe? |
| 18:39.29 | malchias | then use apt to install gnome |
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| 18:43.04 | Pythack | Hello. |
| 18:43.17 | Pythack | I've just installed debian and I've a little issue... |
| 18:43.20 | pistache_ | got |
| 18:43.32 | Pythack | When I run debian in grub, I have: |
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| 18:43.52 | Pythack | Decompressing Linux... Parsing ELF... done. |
| 18:44.04 | Pythack | Booting the kernel |
| 18:44.08 | Pythack | Loading, please wait... |
| 18:44.33 | Pythack | [ 2.437533] ACPI: Ivalid PBLK length [5] |
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| 18:44.55 | Pythack | Gave up waiting for root device. Common problems: |
| 18:45.16 | Pythack | - Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline) |
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| 18:45.23 | maligor | sounds like a bios bug |
| 18:45.30 | Pythack | Ah... |
| 18:45.38 | maligor | it might not be related to the root device issue tho |
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| 18:46.06 | Pythack | - Check rootdelay= (did the system wait long enough?) |
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| 18:46.23 | Pythack | - Check root= (did the system wait for the right device?) |
| 18:46.32 | devD | I am trying to make fstab entry to automount my usb harddrive, please tell me is this right "/dev/sdc1 /media/usb ntfs default 1 1" |
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| 18:46.48 | betz | Hi! I installed debian as guest OS in a virtualbox. Now i need to be able to connect to the guest os from the host os with ssh, but it never works. Anyone has experience with this? |
| 18:46.51 | Pythack | - Missing Modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev) |
| 18:47.14 | Pythack | ALERT! /dev/hdb1 does not exist. Dropping to a shell! |
| 18:47.30 | Pythack | And I have: (initramfs) _ |
| 18:47.35 | Pythack | What I have to do? |
| 18:48.57 | Pythack | Please help me. |
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| 18:49.33 | esaym153 | why are so many repos out of sync? Most are as old at aug 15th ! |
| 18:49.40 | esaym153 | s/at/as |
| 18:50.18 | enmerkar_ | esaym153: the package hasn't been updated since then? |
| 18:50.23 | Pythack | ? |
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| 18:52.45 | esaym153 | http://debian.uchicago.edu/debian/dists/sid/ |
| 18:52.48 | esaym153 | look |
| 18:53.06 | esaym153 | "Last modified aug 15" |
| 18:53.14 | Pythack | maligor > You say it's a bug bios. So what I have to do? |
| 18:53.14 | esaym153 | that is the repo I normally use |
| 18:53.30 | esaym153 | So I went searching for one that was up to date |
| 18:53.49 | esaym153 | Almost all of the ones I tried where out of date by serveral weeks |
| 18:53.51 | maligor | Pythack, I mean the Invalid PBLK length is probably a bios bug |
| 18:54.18 | maligor | Pythack, you can try to add acpi=off in the kernel cmdline I guess |
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| 18:56.08 | esaym153 | Looks like everything is mirroring a bad server: http://mirror.debian.org/status.html |
| 18:56.25 | alexidoia | twisted`: you advice me earlier, I have a problem IÂ can't fix, I need to get rid of my current nvidia driver and use nv driver, how can IÂ do this ? |
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| 18:57.02 | amse__ | hi |
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| 18:58.19 | alexidoia | IÂ remember that they was a dpkg command that would allow me to pickup drive to use but IÂ can remember which one |
| 18:58.40 | alexidoia | if IÂ do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver, it does not offer any interface |
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| 19:01.14 | Pythack | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:01.27 | Pythack | And I've never had a problem. |
| 19:02.18 | adb | alexidoia, grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf , says Driver "nvidia" ? |
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| 19:02.43 | alexidoia | adb: no it does not |
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| 19:03.00 | alexidoia | actually IÂ have no driver statment whatsoever |
| 19:03.46 | alexidoia | adb: but IÂ have kernel module which IÂ need to get rid of |
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| 19:04.09 | amphi | alexidoia: /var/log/Xorg.0.log will tell you what driver is being used |
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| 19:04.19 | alexidoia | ok |
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| 19:05.14 | alexidoia | amphi: it does not say anything |
| 19:06.39 | Dassu | ARGH |
| 19:07.03 | alexidoia | amphi: ? |
| 19:07.07 | Dassu | How should i proceed if xev doesn't recognize some buttons ? |
| 19:07.12 | malchias | fyi: confirmed the biz iso wouldn't install packages (I selected only core), but the net install does install packages. |
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| 19:07.40 | malchias | (in vmware 6.5) |
| 19:08.17 | ArkoldThos | someone here know edit configure correctly? i have a question :O |
| 19:08.23 | alexidoia | amphi: however a lspci -k |grep nividia return Kernel modules: nvidiafb |
| 19:09.19 | alexidoia | modprobe -l |grep nvidia return kernel/drivers/video/nvidia/nvidiafb.ko how can IÂ get rid of it ? |
| 19:09.40 | alexidoia | IÂ tried rmmod nvidiafb, it says it does not exist |
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| 19:10.01 | jelly-home | alexidoia: then it's not in use |
| 19:10.06 | MattCampbell | Anyone here know why Iceweasel 3.5 is still in experimental? |
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| 19:10.10 | Stunts | anyone able to see my writing this time? |
| 19:10.22 | Dassu | nvm got it |
| 19:10.23 | Dassu | O_O |
| 19:10.39 | alexidoia | jelly-home: even if modprobe -l | grep nvidia returns it ? |
| 19:11.04 | Stunts | hello? |
| 19:11.12 | jelly-home | alexidoia: lsmod means it's being used |
| 19:11.23 | jelly-home | Stunts: no one car hear you! |
| 19:11.28 | Stunts | ok ytshnkd |
| 19:11.28 | MattCampbell | Stunts: Your messages are coming through. |
| 19:11.34 | Stunts | my router was messnig up a wile ago |
| 19:11.46 | alexidoia | jelly-home: correct ! |
| 19:11.54 | Stunts | started handing out very wweird ip's and no dns... |
| 19:12.17 | Stunts | anyways, someone want to tell me how i connect my wifi card to router in terminal? |
| 19:12.19 | malchias | modinfo nvidia |
| 19:12.28 | malchias | rmmod nvidia |
| 19:12.42 | MattCampbell | Since Firefox 3.5 is released, it seems to me that Iceweasel 3.5 should be in sid now, not experimental. |
| 19:13.41 | Stunts | unless i hzve it aleady, whats the command for starting gnome |
| 19:14.11 | Stunts | cause i boot intermainal, and i dont think i have it, and idk how to connect my wifi from termainl |
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| 19:15.43 | alexidoia | IÂ still have a result with dpkg -l | grep nvidia the prfix is rc, what does it means ? "rc" ? |
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| 19:16.33 | malchias | stunts: gdm start |
| 19:17.46 | adb | alexidoia, means nvidia is not installed |
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| 19:19.12 | Loafers | To upgrade to squeese change everything in sources.list to squeeze/debian ? |
| 19:19.36 | Stunts | thanks |
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| 19:22.37 | bpun | !squeeze |
| 19:22.38 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the next release, Debian GNU/Linux 6.0. It is the three-eyed space alien. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/09/msg00000.html Ask me about <testing>. Not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze. Expected to be released in early 2010, see http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090729 |
| 19:22.51 | bpun | squeeze is currently in testing |
| 19:24.06 | Loafers | bpun, ic. so how do i change to the test release? |
| 19:24.24 | bpun | !testing |
| 19:24.24 | dpkg | somebody said testing was a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <squeeze>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <lenny->squeeze> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging to use testing and should be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
| 19:24.34 | bpun | ahahahaha |
| 19:24.51 | pistache_ | ? |
| 19:25.02 | Loafers | ok |
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| 19:32.06 | alexidoia | what command list of IRQ ? |
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| 19:33.01 | alexidoia | IÂ am trying to see what IRQ is my sound card |
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| 19:37.32 | trumpen | alexidoia, try dmesg | grep -i irq |
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| 19:38.37 | atomiku | Trying to apt-get install irssi I get this: "irssi: Depends: libperl5.10 (>= 5.10.0) but it is not going to be installed" - trying apt-get install libperl5.10 says this"libperl5.10: Depends: perl-base (= 5.10.0-19lenny2) but 5.10.0-24 is to be installed" - How can I fix this? |
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| 19:39.11 | tech | atomiku: which version of KDE are you using? |
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| 19:39.29 | atomiku | tech: no gui installed |
| 19:39.44 | tech | okay, which version of Debian? |
| 19:39.50 | atomiku | 5 |
| 19:40.12 | tech | I keep forgetting.. Lenny, right? |
| 19:40.17 | atomiku | yeah |
| 19:40.37 | tech | okay, maybe those versions haven't made it downstream yet |
| 19:40.52 | tech | just a guess |
| 19:41.34 | tech | all I know is, when that happens to me, I usually build from source to be safe |
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| 19:42.07 | tech | I had to do that with VLC before it would run correctly on Squeeze |
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| 19:42.17 | atomiku | aight |
| 19:42.21 | atomiku | i'll dot slash configure |
| 19:42.24 | atomiku | yo this package is big |
| 19:42.31 | hakr | chuckles |
| 19:42.47 | tech | hah |
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| 19:43.42 | atomiku | configure: error: GLIB is required to build irssi. |
| 19:43.47 | atomiku | this bloody system is mangled, eh? :) |
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| 19:43.52 | tech | ouch |
| 19:44.03 | atomiku | i got it |
| 19:44.04 | atomiku | two secs |
| 19:44.28 | tech | well, that's the good thing about compiling; you know EXACTLY what you're missing |
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| 19:45.28 | tech | plus, if you's rather not have to keep the build directory around for when you want to uninstall it, you can always run checkinstall and turn it into a deb |
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| 19:45.56 | tech | LOVES checkinstall |
| 19:46.46 | atomiku | damn it |
| 19:46.51 | atomiku | this is screwwd |
| 19:47.00 | atomiku | i got some cannabis downstairs waiting for me |
| 19:47.01 | tech | what happened? |
| 19:47.07 | atomiku | and i dont wanna get stoned until i've got this bloody thing installed |
| 19:47.08 | atomiku | haha |
| 19:47.19 | tech | oh, well don't let me stop you |
| 19:47.23 | atomiku | @£!;~# |
| 19:47.30 | tech | man's gotta have his priorities |
| 19:47.30 | atomiku | Well it's still complaining about glib :( |
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| 19:48.04 | tech | try an older package? |
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| 19:48.21 | atomiku | i need to reinstall perl-base or something |
| 19:48.33 | atomiku | but ic ant |
| 19:48.35 | atomiku | everything depends on it |
| 19:48.58 | tech | that may be the case. I can't imagine you're missing GLIB |
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| 19:49.17 | tech | for the very same reason you just stated |
| 19:49.57 | tech | is wondering how much breakage will occur if atomiku upgrades his GLIB |
| 19:50.58 | atomiku | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 19:50.58 | atomiku | squeeze/sid |
| 19:51.17 | tech | you should be good to go then |
| 19:52.39 | tech | I know you're going to need st least GLIB 2.0 |
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| 19:53.03 | tech | for irssi, that is |
| 19:53.12 | atomiku | okay |
| 19:53.13 | atomiku | sorted |
| 19:53.18 | atomiku | i did an aptitude install irssi |
| 19:53.22 | atomiku | its downgrading a whole lot of shite |
| 19:53.28 | tech | wow |
| 19:53.33 | atomiku | perl-base [5.10.0-24 (now) -> 5.10.0-19lenny2 (stable)] |
| 19:53.33 | atomiku | etc |
| 19:53.44 | atomiku | I guess I somehow got ahead of the repo |
| 19:53.46 | tech | sounds like you must have been more on the Sid side of things |
| 19:53.50 | atomiku | yeah |
| 19:53.59 | atomiku | I know I did add some extra repos to the sources.list |
| 19:54.00 | tech | okay, that explains everything |
| 19:54.04 | atomiku | at some point |
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| 19:54.15 | atomiku | I wasn't happy with the current version of mysql or something |
| 19:54.21 | tech | yeah, gotta be careful mixing repos like that |
| 19:54.34 | tech | at some point it comes back to bite you |
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| 19:56.33 | bpun | atomiku, that's why its called testing.. if something goes broke you should know how to fix it man |
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| 19:58.17 | tech | well, I think he was running more unstable than Testing. He may have had an unfortunate mix of repositories |
| 19:58.31 | tech | I made that mistake... once |
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| 19:59.15 | tech | it came back to bite me squarely in the ass |
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| 20:10.01 | apostle | how do I reset my password to nothing |
| 20:10.05 | apostle | basically blank |
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| 20:11.15 | adb | edit /etc/shadow .. |
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| 20:12.49 | mhymn | apostle: passwd -d |
| 20:12.57 | mhymn | man passwd |
| 20:13.11 | apostle | thanks |
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| 20:15.55 | henux | what/where is the shell script to check the mail send by sendmail at login? |
| 20:16.02 | henux | on localhost i mean |
| 20:16.39 | malchias | whatever you want? |
| 20:16.44 | malchias | mutt/pine/etc |
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| 20:16.51 | henux | no wait |
| 20:16.57 | henux | bash is doing it automatically |
| 20:17.05 | malchias | bash says you have new mail |
| 20:17.10 | henux | yep |
| 20:17.13 | malchias | check it with a program of your choice |
| 20:17.39 | cwheeler | I'm back |
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| 20:20.38 | henux | i seem not to be able to find pine from the repos |
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| 20:22.59 | mhymn | !tell cwheeler -about back |
| 20:24.18 | cwheeler | my client indicated someone typed my nick but i couldn't find the line so I was attempting to be helpful |
| 20:25.57 | cahoot | cwheeler: I think /lastlog would have helped you |
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| 20:26.23 | cwheeler | thanks cahoot I didn't know about /lastlog |
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| 20:31.26 | henux | what is the proper way of regenerating /etc/motd without rebooting the system? |
| 20:32.06 | pmo | henux, boot single "touch /etc/motd" |
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| 20:32.48 | henux | what? |
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| 20:33.22 | oxi | hi |
| 20:33.24 | pmo | henux, i suggested to boot on singleuser and create the file with the command "touch /etc/motd" |
| 20:33.43 | henux | that makes no sense |
| 20:33.52 | henux | i asked how to regenerate without booting |
| 20:33.55 | oxi | Is there an easy way to detect if any non-free package is installed? |
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| 20:34.17 | cwheeler | henux you do not have to reboot to change runlevels |
| 20:34.37 | cwheeler | shutdown now will take you to single user |
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| 20:35.23 | henux | cwheeler: i cannot do that either since there are running processes |
| 20:35.30 | henux | which i dont want to halt |
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| 20:37.59 | mhymn | oxi: vrms |
| 20:38.07 | oxi | mhymn: thanks |
| 20:38.08 | henux | there was a script in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh |
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| 20:39.31 | bolt_ | I did m-a a-i nvidia on testing, but when trying to load X, it says "The NVIDIA GPU at PCI:1:0:0 is not supported by the 183.14.09 NVIDIA driver". Any way to get a newer one that supports the Geforce 260? |
| 20:39.46 | bolt_ | er. |
| 20:39.52 | pmo | but motd is nothing to recreate ???? |
| 20:39.52 | bolt_ | that's 173.14.09 |
| 20:40.01 | ajavid | !motd |
| 20:40.01 | dpkg | motd is, like, the Message Of The Day, or /etc/motd |
| 20:40.05 | ajavid | lol |
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| 20:42.15 | Arrowmaster | did i miss something or have something messed up on my config for a while or where there a bunch of updates to testing lastnight? |
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| 20:42.34 | bolt_ | Do I have to use the nvidia-installer thingy to get a 18x.xx.xx nvidia driver? |
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| 20:43.14 | Arrowmaster | bolt_: use the nvidia packages from unstable |
| 20:43.36 | henux | i wonder where is the script located to check mail at login |
| 20:43.47 | bolt_ | Arrowmaster: ooh. 185.something. |
| 20:43.47 | henux | or is it built-in to bash? |
| 20:43.51 | bolt_ | Arrowmaster: trying that :D |
| 20:44.17 | Arrowmaster | bolt_: yeah, using it on an evga 275 superclocked right now |
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| 20:48.22 | apostle | anybody suggest a good linux wiki I can install |
| 20:49.01 | jetscreamer | no i can't but you could try apt-cache search wiki |
| 20:49.05 | ajavid | jetscreamer, ! |
| 20:49.15 | jetscreamer | hey dude! |
| 20:49.27 | jetscreamer | i'm leaving for work :) |
| 20:49.30 | ajavid | awww |
| 20:49.39 | jetscreamer | at least i got another job though eh :) |
| 20:49.43 | adb | apostle, apt-file search wiki |
| 20:49.44 | ajavid | word, see ya later man dude |
| 20:49.51 | ajavid | jetscreamer, awesome |
| 20:50.07 | ajavid | jetscreamer, what happened to hfds/hspehere |
| 20:50.21 | jetscreamer | that 'no job' thing |
| 20:50.25 | ajavid | oh |
| 20:50.39 | jetscreamer | should be back up soonish though w/no loss of content |
| 20:50.45 | ajavid | cool |
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| 20:50.54 | ajavid | I used it as a dev server of sorts |
| 20:50.59 | ajavid | won't mind having access again |
| 20:51.24 | ajavid | go to work, Ill talk to ya later |
| 20:51.44 | jetscreamer | think i'll take a shower first though :) |
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| 20:53.28 | ajavid | np: (Arsonists Get All The Girls - The Game Of Life - Shoeshine For Neptune) - (Deathcore - 2:53 - 2007) |
| 20:53.32 | ajavid | doh |
| 20:53.41 | ajavid | wrong button... sorry sorry |
| 20:53.48 | ajavid | fuck me runin/ |
| 20:54.10 | ajavid | I wanted to alt+8 and then f5 and I just hit f5 doh. |
| 20:54.22 | cahoot | ajavid: a bit ironic considering your rant yesterday |
| 20:54.35 | ajavid | cahoot, shit happens. |
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| 20:56.05 | ajavid | apostle, there is mediawiki |
| 20:56.19 | ajavid | apostle, wikipedia runs on it |
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| 21:00.56 | xeon-enouf | what? |
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| 21:01.11 | PuffTheMagic | how do i get >=dbus-1.2.4? |
| 21:01.11 | streuner | !ops [B]abyFaCe onjoin-spam |
| 21:01.11 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: streuner complains about: [B]abyFaCe onjoin-spam |
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| 21:01.21 | ajavid | dbus |
| 21:01.35 | xeon-enouf | oh crap, was 2000 lines behind everyone .. heh - sorry |
| 21:01.38 | PuffTheMagic | i can only seem to get 1.2.1 |
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| 21:02.00 | ajavid | dbus |
| 21:02.03 | streuner | tomaw: thanks |
| 21:02.07 | ajavid | Version: 1.2.16-2 |
| 21:02.10 | xeon-enouf | makes mental note for ajavid to remind me of the --more-- in irssi :-P |
| 21:02.18 | PuffTheMagic | for arm |
| 21:02.22 | CharminTheMoose | tackles xeon-enouf |
| 21:02.23 | CharminTheMoose | ;d |
| 21:02.26 | PuffTheMagic | so i need a special feed |
| 21:02.36 | xeon-enouf | kicks a foozball at CharminTheMoose |
| 21:02.44 | ajavid | xeon-enouf, that means you must have scrolled up using pageup and never page downed again and buffer kept filling up |
| 21:02.56 | ajavid | judd version dbus |
| 21:02.57 | judd | ajavid: (version takes no arguments) -- Returns the version of the current bot. |
| 21:03.00 | xeon-enouf | ajavid: bravo - you are so intelligent ;-) |
| 21:03.01 | ajavid | judd versions dbus |
| 21:03.02 | judd | ajavid: dbus -- etch: 1.0.2-1+etch2 etch-security: 1.0.2-1+etch3 lenny: 1.2.1-5 lenny-security: 1.2.1-5+lenny1 sid: 1.2.16-2 squeeze: 1.2.16-2 |
| 21:03.18 | PuffTheMagic | ahh im at lenny |
| 21:03.21 | ajavid | you can try backporting it |
| 21:03.23 | ajavid | !ssb |
| 21:03.23 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 21:03.26 | xeon-enouf | judd: versions dbus-1 |
| 21:03.26 | judd | xeon-enouf: dbus-1 -- |
| 21:03.30 | PuffTheMagic | how do i upgrade my stuff to sid or squeeze? |
| 21:03.31 | xeon-enouf | deprecated |
| 21:03.32 | ajavid | 1-3 |
| 21:03.44 | ajavid | libdbus-1-3 |
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| 21:04.20 | ajavid | judd version libdbus-1-3 |
| 21:04.20 | judd | ajavid: (version takes no arguments) -- Returns the version of the current bot. |
| 21:04.23 | xeon-enouf | ajavid: no, i meant, in Sarge or mayeb even Etch there were dbus-1* named packages, not versions |
| 21:04.24 | ajavid | judd versions libdbus-1-3 |
| 21:04.24 | judd | ajavid: libdbus-1-3 -- etch: 1.0.2-1+etch2 etch-security: 1.0.2-1+etch3 lenny: 1.2.1-5 lenny-security: 1.2.1-5+lenny1 sid: 1.2.16-2 squeeze: 1.2.16-2 |
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| 21:04.41 | ajavid | ok |
| 21:06.26 | xeon-enouf | kicks a Count_fuzball (no idea how you spell it) at CharminTheMoose |
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| 21:06.46 | xeon-enouf | i only see [n=Count_fu@u |
| 21:07.51 | jpinx-eeepc | is there an simple way to change the login name of a user? |
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| 21:09.02 | PuffTheMagic | can someone point me to a link to update my sources.list to sid from lenny? |
| 21:09.13 | adb | PuffTheMagic, read above ssb |
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| 21:09.28 | jpinx-eeepc | PuffTheMagic: if you have to ask that you should stick to lenny with backports ;) |
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| 21:09.55 | Tramp | jpinx-eeepc: man usermod, change -l. Probably also grep the homedir for configs which may use the name |
| 21:10.02 | Tramp | s/change/check/ |
| 21:10.15 | Tux^verdreifelt | well, why use backports at all? |
| 21:10.15 | xeon-enouf | PuffTheMagic: ssb is the way to go ; IF backports.org hasn't already done the work for you |
| 21:10.17 | PuffTheMagic | im not a debain user normally... but i though i would use a qemu arm debian image to compile something |
| 21:10.29 | jpinx-eeepc | Tramp: interesting man usermod isn't too clear (to me) |
| 21:10.36 | ajavid | hi |
| 21:10.43 | xeon-enouf | jpinx-eeepc: login name? |
| 21:11.02 | Tramp | jpinx-eeepc: well, "usermod -l newname oldname" I would say (not, that I ever used that) |
| 21:11.07 | xeon-enouf | jpinx-eeepc: how about id? man chfn, man deluser ; man adduser |
| 21:11.12 | ajavid | in debian do you know name of a visual graphical file browser in X that can show multimedia thumbnails and browse them? Kinda like KDE'a konqueror but not koqneuror |
| 21:11.16 | ajavid | any ideas? |
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| 21:11.35 | ajavid | Please advise (I've been looking for a number of days) the closes I found was 'pornview' but thats a crappy app |
| 21:11.36 | xeon-enouf | ugh, thumbs.db .. uggh |
| 21:11.40 | ajavid | pornview lol |
| 21:11.43 | xeon-enouf | ajavid: use gliv |
| 21:11.45 | ajavid | there an actual app called pornview |
| 21:11.46 | jpinx-eeepc | xeon-enouf: man chfn - interesting tks |
| 21:11.48 | ajavid | thats priceless |
| 21:11.49 | Tramp | jpinx-eeepc: of course, if you store auth-information elsewhere, you may have more steps. |
| 21:11.55 | xeon-enouf | pornview is nice actually |
| 21:11.56 | ajavid | judd versions pornview |
| 21:11.57 | judd | ajavid: pornview -- etch: 0.2pre1-7 lenny: 0.2pre1-9 sid: 0.2pre1-9 squeeze: 0.2pre1-9 |
| 21:12.06 | jpinx-eeepc | Tramp: yes - just finding that |
| 21:12.07 | ajavid | xeon-enouf, doesn't do video thumbnails |
| 21:12.14 | jpinx-eeepc | might leave the name alone ;) |
| 21:12.18 | ajavid | xeon-enouf, also, I've a 32bit chroot but my /home/ajavid is shared |
| 21:12.25 | xeon-enouf | erm, 'hotbabe' in unofficial, even nicer :-P |
| 21:12.33 | ajavid | xeon-enouf, if I were to install konqueror in sid, it would fuck my other kde3 konqueror on the stable system |
| 21:12.42 | xeon-enouf | ajavid: thumbnails suck ass |
| 21:12.44 | ajavid | I wonder if you can change kde in sid to use ~/.kde4 |
| 21:12.49 | ajavid | let me ask debian-kde |
| 21:13.08 | ajavid | it used to used ~./kde4 but then they changed it to ~/.kde |
| 21:13.20 | xeon-enouf | you actually use icons and have your directories set with thumbnail view? |
| 21:13.33 | xeon-enouf | has given ajavid way too muchcredit |
| 21:14.23 | ajavid | xeon-enouf, yes |
| 21:14.40 | ajavid | xeon-enouf, you can say whatever you want, I like what I like. |
| 21:14.45 | xeon-enouf | if when using redmond OSes, and "detailed view" isn't set, and the alterations through the crappy GUI don't hold, i start ripping out Registry Hives ;-) |
| 21:15.04 | ajavid | xeon-enouf, people often tell me I'm crazy or weird. I just tell them, I'm sorry your life sucks, I but I know what I like, I'm good with it. |
| 21:15.09 | xeon-enouf | ajavid: my opionion is that your opinion sucks |
| 21:15.15 | ajavid | thats fantastic, |
| 21:15.18 | ajavid | know anything about my issue? |
| 21:15.26 | xeon-enouf | craptacular ;-0 |
| 21:15.30 | ajavid | wanna change kde4 to use ~/.kde4 |
| 21:16.17 | pistache_ | ajavid: why not ln -s ~./kde ~./kde4 |
| 21:16.18 | pistache_ | ? |
| 21:16.37 | ajavid | I have stable system with kde3 using ~/.kde |
| 21:16.51 | ajavid | I have 32bit sid chroot using /home/ajavid as the same user in sid chroot |
| 21:17.01 | ajavid | pistache_, if I were to do that it would fuck up my stable kde3 config |
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| 21:18.01 | ajavid | pistache_, so thats why I'd like to change kde4 in sid to use ~/.kde4 instead |
| 21:18.21 | pistache_ | ah right |
| 21:18.28 | pistache_ | I don't know, I think it's compiled in hard |
| 21:18.39 | pistache_ | You may need to recompile and grep all .kde4 |
| 21:18.51 | ajavid | yes |
| 21:19.12 | ajavid | rebuild kde4.3 with KDEHOME and KDEDIR as $HOME/.kde4 |
| 21:19.13 | ajavid | :( |
| 21:19.25 | ajavid | ahhh boy, I was really hoping to avoid that |
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| 21:24.24 | khaije|amalt | command line tool to reverse md5 hash? |
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| 21:25.45 | Tux^verdreifelt | 5dm? *lol* |
| 21:25.46 | simonrvn | um, it's a hash |
| 21:26.16 | khaije|amalt | did i ask a dumb question? i dont even know... |
| 21:26.36 | zophy | Debian is a trademark of SPI Inc. |
| 21:27.02 | apostle | what is a good MRP / ERP system running on Debian? |
| 21:27.16 | zophy | md5 is a one way hash |
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| 21:28.36 | khaije|amalt | zophy: lol that sounds like a 'yes' in my quick search i'm seeing a tool called crackmd5, is this a dead end for my objective? |
| 21:29.14 | zophy | you can create another md5 hash and compare it to another to the original to see if any data changes or corruptions have occured |
| 21:30.22 | zophy | you can't recreate data from an md5 hahs |
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| 21:31.28 | alexidoia | I want to remove a package but apt wants to get rid of a lot of other package that I want to keep, how can I only remove the package IÂ want ? |
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| 21:32.31 | alexidoia | it is to install a newer version of the package I want to get rid of, so can IÂ put it on hold or something ? |
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| 21:34.17 | adb | alexidoia, use bpo or ssb , /msg dpkg bpo , /msg dpkg ssb |
| 21:34.28 | kpearce | So I just got a new monitor, and it has VGA and HDMI input. My computer output only has DVI. I've been using a DVI-to-VGA adapter and it works fine. I just picked up a DVI-to-HDMI cable, and I turned off the monitor (but left the computer running) and switched the plugs, and when I turn the monitor on it gets no signal. |
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| 21:34.46 | kpearce | I did try switching to a console with ctrl+alt+F2, but still no signal. |
| 21:34.47 | kpearce | Any ideas? |
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| 21:35.38 | alexidoia | adb: I know but the package is not backported |
| 21:35.43 | phlux | can i close kde and load xfce4 without logging out/logging in? |
| 21:35.50 | alexidoia | can IÂ just put a package on hold with apt-get ? |
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| 21:37.08 | adb | alexidoia, yes, but i'm sure your system is messed .. |
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| 21:45.58 | jvogel | Anyone know what packages/modules I need for audio to work on onboard nvidia mcp51 |
| 21:46.05 | jvogel | Alsa-base isn't doing the trick |
| 21:46.14 | jvogel | also not sure the best way to test it out but it's definitely not acting the same |
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| 21:48.33 | sylar | I am compiling the kernel now after a patch, when it is done, will it replace the current kernel, or will it have a subversion number? |
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| 21:49.00 | simonrvn | what? |
| 21:49.05 | sylar | the kernel |
| 21:49.36 | jvogel | you have to install the kernel |
| 21:49.46 | sylar | yes, I know |
| 21:49.48 | jvogel | and if you have grub configured properly you'll have both kernels to choose from |
| 21:50.08 | Titan8990 | sylar, you never want to do make install with a kernel |
| 21:50.17 | Titan8990 | sylar, always compy bzImage manually and edit grub |
| 21:50.22 | Titan8990 | s/compy/copy |
| 21:50.49 | sylar | Titan8990, I am makeing the kernel with dpkg-buildpackage |
| 21:50.57 | Titan8990 | make install does leave potential to overwrite your only known working kernel |
| 21:51.31 | bolt | I just installed debian squeeze, and the fonts in amarok2 look horrible for some reason. every other place, they look alright, it seems. what can I do about this? |
| 21:51.39 | sylar | Titan8990, exactly, that is why I ask if there will be a subversion when I complile from source |
| 21:52.06 | sylar | dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot |
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| 21:52.37 | sylar | it just takes very long to compile, so I want to figure it out |
| 21:54.14 | Titan8990 | bolt, kde specific channel would probably be best |
| 21:54.33 | Titan8990 | bolt, i had the same problem with konsole once and just had to change the font type |
| 21:55.13 | bolt | Titan8990: but k3b, for instance, works fine. and i'm not using the kde desktop environment, so they would probably tell me to push a bunch of buttons i don't have |
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| 21:56.02 | Titan8990 | bolt, just check around amarok setting for font |
| 21:56.39 | bolt | Titan8990: it doesn't seem to have any settings for it |
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| 21:58.40 | Titan8990 | bolt, it is in testing, check debian bugs |
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| 22:00.56 | mhymn | qt3-qtconfig worked for me in similar issues |
| 22:01.31 | Nardul | Hi. I've been trying to set up courier with TLS. I've added the account with tls-encryption enabled (in evolution) and i've added require_starttls=1 in imapd-ssl. I'm not sure it's working. Can anyone help? Ports 143 & 993 are open to me. |
| 22:02.28 | Nardul | What i mean is, i can close port 993, and nothing changes |
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| 22:08.42 | ajavid | #debian-kde is awesome |
| 22:08.49 | ajavid | #kde doesn't really support kde3 anymore |
| 22:08.58 | ajavid | well... some people might |
| 22:09.03 | ajavid | for the most part they moved on to kde4 |
| 22:09.08 | Titan8990 | i think squeeze is 4 |
| 22:09.14 | ajavid | yes it is |
| 22:09.19 | ajavid | I didn't konw he had 4 |
| 22:09.26 | Titan8990 | hes using squeeze |
| 22:09.31 | ajavid | ok |
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| 22:09.59 | ajavid | Im running debian stable with kde4 :) |
| 22:10.08 | Titan8990 | ssb? |
| 22:10.09 | ajavid | kde4 goes into ~./kde4 |
| 22:10.10 | ajavid | no |
| 22:10.29 | ajavid | This is SMPlayer v. 0.6.7 (SVN r2831) running on Linux |
| 22:10.32 | Frostwarri0r | hello, anyone knows how to get a tty with black letters and white background? (i mean, the entire screen white) |
| 22:10.33 | ajavid | and smlayer from sid too |
| 22:10.37 | ajavid | with mplayer from svn |
| 22:10.46 | ajavid | Titan8990, I also have Xorg 7.4 :) |
| 22:10.50 | ajavid | Titan8990, python 2.6 |
| 22:10.58 | ajavid | Titan8990, this is like lenny+steroids :) |
| 22:11.31 | ajavid | Frostwarri0r, you mean change colors? |
| 22:11.34 | LeM` | yo |
| 22:12.08 | Frostwarri0r | ajavid, yes but i want to change the entire tty background, not only the characters |
| 22:12.42 | ajavid | setterm -background white |
| 22:12.51 | ajavid | setterm -background white -foreground black |
| 22:12.56 | ajavid | man setterm |
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| 22:13.21 | Frostwarri0r | thnks |
| 22:13.31 | Titan8990 | ajavid, does that require a framebuffer? |
| 22:13.45 | ajavid | I don't think so |
| 22:14.14 | Frostwarri0r | im not talking about images and thousand of color, only dark characters in a light background |
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| 22:14.24 | ajavid | Frostwarri0r, I just told you |
| 22:14.44 | Titan8990 | ajavid, man page says background color changes are for vts only |
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| 22:15.25 | Frostwarri0r | ajavid, i know, was just a comment to Titan8990 |
| 22:15.30 | ajavid | ahh |
| 22:15.31 | ajavid | yes it does |
| 22:15.35 | ajavid | virtual terminals |
| 22:15.36 | ajavid | hm |
| 22:16.44 | Titan8990 | im thinking if its possible, its going to be a grub framebuffer setting |
| 22:17.01 | ajavid | you can set colors in bash too |
| 22:17.08 | ajavid | using .bashrc |
| 22:17.12 | ajavid | would be a difficult |
| 22:17.50 | Titan8990 | i use it for color PS1 but never heard of background |
| 22:18.00 | ajavid | TERMWIDTH=${COLUMNS} |
| 22:18.14 | ajavid | let fillsize=${TERMWIDTH}-${promptsize} |
| 22:18.31 | ajavid | WHITE="\[\033[1;37m\]" |
| 22:19.03 | ajavid | I dunno |
| 22:19.06 | ajavid | something or other |
| 22:19.08 | ajavid | I can't think right now |
| 22:19.53 | Frostwarri0r | is there a debian forum to post it? |
| 22:19.58 | Frostwarri0r | something like arch or gentoo forums |
| 22:20.03 | ajavid | anyway, make it in bash, so that termwidth is your number columns, and let your fillsize be this, and do while fillsize reaches 0, decrement from the right to the left let fillsize = fillsize -1 |
| 22:20.07 | ajavid | done |
| 22:20.14 | ajavid | !ask |
| 22:20.14 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 22:20.27 | ajavid | mailing list |
| 22:20.28 | ajavid | !forums |
| 22:20.29 | dpkg | rumour has it, forums is http://forums.debian.net/ http://www.debianhelp.org/ http://www.debianplanet.org/, or http://www.debianforums.org (basically dead) |
| 22:21.00 | ajavid | Frostwarri0r, if you give it an hour or so you should be able to figure out the script in bash |
| 22:21.11 | ajavid | Frostwarri0r, throw it in bashrc and there ya go |
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| 22:21.27 | ajavid | its still complex and heavily involved, but can be done. as for framebuffer stuff... ive no idea |
| 22:21.50 | ajavid | perhaps Titan8990 can help you out with that |
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| 22:22.57 | ajavid | what if you use screen? |
| 22:23.02 | ajavid | can't you colorize screen? |
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| 22:23.09 | ajavid | GNU screen |
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| 22:24.04 | Frostwarri0r | thats an option |
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| 22:26.48 | Frostwarri0r | ajavid you pmd just before? |
| 22:26.59 | ajavid | huh? |
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| 22:28.07 | Frostwarri0r | im in a java irc client, and firefox blocks popups lol |
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| 22:28.20 | moncky | im trying to find the best method of installint xfce4.6 on lenny, backports doesnt seem to be an option |
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| 22:30.03 | moncky | back ports says that xfce is the latest version however it is not, any suggestions? |
| 22:30.25 | ajavid | Frostwarri0r, I did not send a pm |
| 22:30.33 | Frostwarri0r | there was a way to install unstable packages in a stable version just for one command |
| 22:30.48 | Frostwarri0r | something like DIST="unstable" or something like that |
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| 22:31.07 | Frostwarri0r | i still dont know debian, i came from arch/gentoo :P |
| 22:31.35 | mnuhmnuh | moncky: sorry, :-) try uwm/udm? not the answer you wanted, but worth looking at. |
| 22:31.57 | themill | Frostwarri0r: you want to make a backport; /msg dpkg backport |
| 22:32.42 | moncky | mnuhmnuh: sorry can you elaborate? what is uwm/udm |
| 22:32.45 | mnuhmnuh | Frostwarri0r: apitude -t blah ... |
| 22:33.18 | mnuhmnuh | moncky: aptitude show uwm |
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| 22:33.37 | unity_term | hey.. |
| 22:33.57 | themill | mnuhmnuh: installing unstable packages in stable is *not* going to end well. Please don't advise that. |
| 22:34.05 | unity_term | what would i use to figure out if a certain program is running? |
| 22:34.12 | mnuhmnuh | moncky: it's kind of odd, but very educational. teaches you X as it should be used. |
| 22:34.17 | moncky | mnuhmnuh: that in no way is helpful, how is use another window manager any help? |
| 22:34.59 | mnuhmnuh | themill: not suggesting that. just explaining syntax. |
| 22:35.36 | themill | mnuhmnuh: that's fine -- just explain the problems as well then. |
| 22:36.16 | mnuhmnuh | moncky: just a suggestion for you to play with it, not change to ir] |
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| 22:37.23 | mnuhmnuh | themill: i assume we're all adults here, capable of reading manpages? :-) |
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| 22:37.49 | lafrance | I was'nt until remember it yesterday :( |
| 22:38.05 | Refried_ | i'm getting the error 'dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute installed pre-removal script: Exec format error' when trying to apt-get remove a package... is there anything I can do to just mark it as uninstalled in the database? i don't even care if there are holdover files on the disk anymore i've tried dpkg with --force-all with no improvement |
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| 22:38.57 | codestr0m | can someone recommend a tool that checks for a a proper OSI approved license header on a file or directory? |
| 22:39.09 | codestr0m | I'm sure there is one, but I don't know where it is |
| 22:40.21 | mnuhmnuh | lafrance: wasn't what? :-) |
| 22:40.51 | lafrance | was looking for some help got mad and start looking found man was a great help :P |
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| 22:41.50 | lafrance | however could not find mind you print small in man how to disable root login |
| 22:42.13 | jmarsden | codestr0m: licensecheck (part of the devscripts package) |
| 22:42.29 | lafrance | please do not tell me need to learn this |
| 22:43.05 | codestr0m | jmarsden: thanks.. I need to use the temporarily on a non-debian host before I can move the code |
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| 22:44.36 | mnuhmnuh | lafrance: :-) try "xman -notopbox -bothshown &" # point and click interface to manpages. [x11-apps] |
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| 22:44.57 | lafrance | on a remote server ? |
| 22:45.00 | dbbolton | i'm running kde 4.3 from sid. is there a way i can make the colorscheme of qt3 apps (like k3b) match my qt4 colorscheme? |
| 22:46.08 | mnuhmnuh | lafrance: see /etc/default ... may be defined there. |
| 22:46.21 | lafrance | ok thank you |
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| 22:49.09 | jmarsden | lafrance: (a) You can indeed run X clients on a remote server, over SSH, with the display on your local machine. (b) See man passwd for ideas on disabling accounts... |
| 22:49.28 | lafrance | thank you |
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| 22:49.52 | lafrance | with bad memory this only way I can remember it sad as I use to be IT |
| 22:51.04 | mythomaniac | i'm trying the latest lenny biz installer 5.02b and even that is failing to install grub... anyone know what is going on with this... i can install other distributions, like ubuntu no problem... |
| 22:51.41 | mnuhmnuh | lafrance: you're not the problem. prob. is the tech we use. i'm coming into this long after you asked your q. dunno what that was. |
| 22:52.18 | lafrance | darn If I remember remember stage 1 Alzhimer so short memory spam |
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| 22:52.34 | jpinx-eeepc | dunno what your specific is, but I use ssh -X all the time as a user |
| 22:52.34 | lafrance | oh now remember disable root login |
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| 22:53.11 | jpinx-eeepc | lafrance: ssh config files and look for permit_root_login yes/no |
| 22:53.33 | lafrance | ah thank you |
| 22:53.59 | mnuhmnuh | lafrance: root logins should be disabled. su - or sudo gives you paper trail (log entries of what happened). |
| 22:54.14 | jpinx-eeepc | themill: are children not allowed to read man pages? ;) |
| 22:54.44 | mnuhmnuh | themill: ?!? |
| 22:54.58 | mnuhmnuh | jpinx-eeepc: ?!? |
| 22:55.07 | unity_term | ugh |
| 22:55.12 | jpinx-eeepc | mnuhmnuh: scroll back :) |
| 22:55.32 | jpinx-eeepc | was looking for lafrance original question |
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| 22:56.55 | lafrance | ok back reading to create user lafrance |
| 22:57.33 | dbbolton | is there a way i can get qt3 apps to use the same color scheme at qt4 apps in kde 4.3? |
| 22:57.43 | jpinx-eeepc | lafrance: I made a user especially for ssh -X logins |
| 22:59.00 | lafrance | :) nice but I am to far gone in dementia to figure that out install remote lenny web server and ISPconfig was my limiits |
| 22:59.08 | lafrance | limits too |
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| 23:00.07 | lafrance | oh ssh -X you mean you got a gui of gnome running inside ssh wow |
| 23:00.31 | jpinx-eeepc | lafrance: yes - I use lxde, but any X session can be put over ssh |
| 23:01.31 | lafrance | think that be beyond my norm of comprehension will look into it though |
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| 23:03.51 | mnuhmnuh | lafrance: ssh -X just enables X apps to fire up on remote server and display locally. whether that's good or not depends on your security regime. |
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| 23:05.01 | jpinx-eeepc | depends on your connection speed as well;) |
| 23:05.18 | lafrance | ah like to be as secure as possible That why I do not have access on the server freenode use safer for both of us :) |
| 23:07.23 | jpinx-eeepc | lafrance: secure as possible is switch the computer off ;) |
| 23:08.02 | lafrance | hmm look in ssh_config and sshd_config did not see option |
| 23:08.10 | lafrance | lol that would be 100 % secure |
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| 23:11.23 | jpinx-eeepc | lafrance: it's in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 23:11.44 | henux | things what i add with route add -net are persistent across reboots? |
| 23:12.44 | Tramp | henux: nothing. You usually define them in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 23:13.00 | henux | got it |
| 23:13.15 | bpun | henux, that's for debian related.. is what Tramp mentioned |
| 23:13.23 | jpinx-eeepc | henux: backup /etc/network/interfaces and try it |
| 23:13.37 | mnuhmnuh | jpinx-eeepc: indeed. i've run mosaic over 9600 bps mdem conn. :-) works znd sucks. |
| 23:13.40 | bpun | henux, but that's for interfaces.. u may be able to define static routes there |
| 23:13.42 | henux | so i can add them to interfaces just like i would type them in the console? |
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| 23:13.58 | jpinx-eeepc | mnuhmnuh: are you a masochist? ;) |
| 23:14.05 | henux | i can add the line "route add -net <IP> netmask <IP> eth0" there ? |
| 23:14.16 | bpun | henux, u may have routes.static.. or similar files to place somewhere under /etc -- what distro are u using? |
| 23:14.29 | henux | ubuntu server |
| 23:14.33 | henux | which is debian based |
| 23:14.42 | jpinx-eeepc | mnuhmnuh: tbh I use it for ssh -X into another box on my local NAT, so speed is good |
| 23:14.54 | Tramp | henux: in that case, #ubuntu is the right place |
| 23:14.55 | jpinx-eeepc | henux: ask in #ubuntu |
| 23:14.55 | mnuhmnuh | jpinx-eeepc: best i could get at the time. backwoods canada. |
| 23:15.00 | jpinx-eeepc | !ubuntu |
| 23:15.01 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 23:15.03 | henux | okay thank you |
| 23:15.14 | kosmic | is it normal for a server provider to keep your servers accessible a month after you stop paying your bills? |
| 23:15.18 | jpinx-eeepc | mnuhmnuh: desert Peru ;) |
| 23:15.40 | mythomaniac | well i guess you cannot install squeeze from a lenny biz install cd... you have to install lenny, change the sources.list and then upgrade... you know would have been nice if someone told me this 12 hours ago... |
| 23:15.46 | jpinx-eeepc | kosmic: they're probably too lazy and don't need the space 'cos there's no new business |
| 23:15.53 | bpun | argh |
| 23:16.03 | bpun | i feel dumb.. too many #channels opened heheehe.. |
| 23:16.14 | mythomaniac | but at least i found it myself from my own experience.., |
| 23:16.17 | kosmic | jpinx-eeepc, so i can expect free service? |
| 23:16.22 | jpinx-eeepc | pulls bpun s plug out |
| 23:16.30 | kosmic | i thought of sending their billing department an email about this |
| 23:16.34 | jpinx-eeepc | kosmic: your mileage may vary ;) |
| 23:16.51 | kosmic | but i wont ;) |
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| 23:17.04 | jpinx-eeepc | kosmic: I am still using one that I stopped paying for 3 months ago |
| 23:17.07 | kosmic | how should i take advantage of this free stuff |
| 23:17.24 | kosmic | jpinx-eeepc, hehe, maybe we're using the same provider :) |
| 23:17.26 | jpinx-eeepc | kosmic: I do temporary stuff on it only - |
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| 23:17.41 | jpinx-eeepc | kosmic: doubt it unless you're in Peru |
| 23:17.47 | kosmic | hm no |
| 23:18.17 | jpinx-eeepc | kosmic: /join #debian-offtopic |
| 23:19.42 | mersault | I've recently installed debian lenny as a xen dom0. I'm trying to light up my first domU, but the root FS appears to be write-protected. I'm using LVM to deliver a partition to the domU for the root filesystem, and the domain config says the root FS should be rw. Anyone care to assist? I have config details here: http://pastebin.ca/1555467 |
| 23:21.23 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:21.53 | mersault | adb: asking in there too, but 800+ users vs. 200 users... |
| 23:23.10 | mersault | asking google too of course, but mostly I'm just finding various archived copies of the same email thread between Steve Kemp and Freddy Freeloader that doesn't have anything useful to for me. |
| 23:23.12 | adb | 800+ users non aware < 200 aware users |
| 23:24.46 | r4z0r | can i have the latest firefox on debian? |
| 23:25.02 | n-iCe | r4z0r: why not |
| 23:25.04 | mersault | adb: all I likely need is one decent troubleshooter with a fresh pair of eyes to look at the problem :) like I said, I'm asking in both rooms (and asked in #xen first, but got bored of the crickets). |
| 23:25.05 | n-iCe | I have it |
| 23:25.06 | lafrance | adb tomorow there be one that use a few server with xen that can help you |
| 23:25.08 | r4z0r | sorry newest* |
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| 23:25.26 | n-iCe | r4z0r: yes |
| 23:25.38 | r4z0r | ok |
| 23:25.58 | mersault | lafrance: I'll assume you actually meant to direct that at me. thanks. |
| 23:26.17 | lafrance | ok this is strange created user but it never ask for make a password for that user :( |
| 23:26.34 | lafrance | who ever had problem with xen |
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| 23:27.05 | lafrance | if you check on freenode for sponsors a few use it too btw |
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| 23:27.58 | Zambezi | I just rebooted after a whooping 39 packages full-upgrade. But when I typed my loginname at startup (no loginmanager) I couldn't backspace and erase a mistyped character. Can anyone confirm? I'm using Lenny. |
| 23:28.18 | mersault | we're actually using it for a platform as work as well, but in a very cookie-cutter use the GUI in centos kind of way. |
| 23:28.29 | jpinx-eeepc | Zambezi: upgrade from what? |
| 23:28.39 | Zambezi | jpinx-eeepc: aptitude full-upgrade |
| 23:28.53 | jpinx-eeepc | from what version? |
| 23:29.26 | jpinx-eeepc | full-upgrade is for going from one version to another |
| 23:29.30 | Zambezi | jpinx-eeepc: udev, Xorg, kernel(modules). It was insane. |
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| 23:30.02 | jpinx-eeepc | Zambezi: if you were just doing a lenny update/upgrade you should have used safe-upgrade |
| 23:31.01 | Zambezi | jpinx-eeepc: It on my desktop btw. Maybe safe-upgrade on server. |
| 23:31.16 | jpinx-eeepc | Zambezi: man aptitude |
| 23:31.24 | themill | 39 packages is reasonable for lennyr3 |
| 23:31.52 | jpinx-eeepc | yea - I just did a standard upgrade to 5.0.3 and it was bigger than that |
| 23:32.00 | jpinx-eeepc | I was at 5.0.2 |
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| 23:34.16 | Zambezi | themill: Well. I have Xorg, Ion3, OpenOffice Writer. No Gnome, KDE, Xfce etc. so fairly slim ws. |
| 23:34.34 | bytbox | 'm trying to use valgrind on 2.6.26-2-powerpc, and when I start it up, I get |
| 23:34.34 | bytbox | +found. valgrind recommends I install glibc's debuginfo. How? |
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| 23:44.13 | xeon-enouf | http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/index.php?main_page=product_video_info&products_id=288646-1 watch it and learn you silly baboons |
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| 23:46.27 | sauvin | The installer from goodbye-windows.com (or is that goodbye-microsoft.com?) - does it launch the same installer that a regular Debian CD or DVD would launch? Including a section for partitioning the drive (and resizing partitions)? |
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| 23:47.24 | themill | xeon-enouf: ECHAN? |
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| 23:49.19 | bpun | sauvin, it launches a loopback from a file stored on ntfs (and creates a windows boot menu option for 'Debian Installer')-- it doesn't wipe out windows unless u ask so.. |
| 23:49.50 | bpun | !debian.exe |
| 23:49.50 | dpkg | debian.exe is a debian-installer loader for win32. It installs Debian as default; it installs grub for NT on C drive, then downloads the netboot kernel/initrd.gz from debian.org, and creates entries in boot.ini to load grub/menu.lst. Available at http://www.goodbye-microsoft.com/. Also ask me about <ig> <setup.exe> or see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Loader |
| 23:49.55 | sauvin | Yea, but when you get into the installer itself (after reboot), there's the usual partitiioning thing to do, right? |
| 23:50.14 | bpun | sauvin, and u can manual guide the partitioner app.. to ntfsresize.. |
| 23:50.21 | sauvin | Bingo. |
| 23:50.34 | bpun | kaching |
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| 23:50.59 | bpun | sauvin, if anyone tries it.. they should make a backup anyways.. then defrag/chkdks.. |
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| 23:51.17 | sauvin | Yea, I know. That link just looked kinda handy. |
| 23:51.29 | sauvin | (still gotta find out where to make Q@#$@#%#$ "recovery disks") |
| 23:51.32 | bpun | tried it on windows 2008 enterprise two weeks ago.. |
| 23:51.43 | bpun | sauvin, no burning needed.. |
| 23:52.00 | sauvin | There is if I want to make sure I've kept the Windows crap. |
| 23:52.01 | bpun | sauvin, u can keep the download loopback installer as a rescue system.. |
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| 23:52.51 | bittin_ | somone know how to set the standard keymap in Xorg.conf? |
| 23:53.18 | bpun | !keymap |
| 23:53.19 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap", or ask me about <drxx> or use kcontrol, gnome-control-center or similar. For setting up X keymaps, also check out xkeycaps and xev, or ask me about <multimedia keys>. In console you can also use "loadkeys" for once-only/temporary adjustments. |
| 23:54.04 | bittin_ | where can i check what xmodmap is se? |
| 23:54.28 | bpun | bittin_, maybe xrdb ? |
| 23:54.29 | izua | uhm |
| 23:54.41 | izua | how exactly do i have to add a fortune file to fortune? |
| 23:54.51 | bittin_ | i want to auto setxkbmap se |
| 23:55.08 | izua | i've ran strfile on the file, it told me it made the correct number of fortunes, i've copied it to /usr/share/games/fortunes.. |
| 23:55.13 | izua | fortune -f doesn't list it |
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| 23:56.11 | voipzapper | i installed wine and then a windoze app utorrent while as root |
| 23:56.16 | voipzapper | does this matter? |
| 23:56.27 | bittin_ | no |
| 23:56.32 | adb | bittin_, dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
| 23:56.35 | voipzapper | someone in #bittorrent says "i'm screwed", but i don't even see why |
| 23:56.56 | cast | you sure are screwed |
| 23:57.10 | voipzapper | cast: heh heh. why? |
| 23:57.32 | cast | because your methodology is FUBAR and you can't see why |
| 23:57.43 | bittin_ | i have right console keymap i want right Xorg keymap |
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| 23:58.24 | bittin_ | but i found out what i needed to do |
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| 23:59.02 | bittin_ | http://pastebin.se/198861 |
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| 23:59.27 | xeon-enouf | themill: yeah ..but there's so many ppl here ;-P |
| 23:59.38 | voipzapper | cast: the only reason i was using root was to use wireshark to low level dx eth interfaces |
| 23:59.49 | xeon-enouf | themill: er s/ppl/baboons ;-) |
