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| 00:00.47 | mylastbreath | bye |
| 00:00.51 | mylastbreath | \bye |
| 00:00.58 | nsadmin | xxtjaxx: also you should consider whether you ever want to log in as root directly (if you're not familiar with the shell, that's a sign that you should be very careful as root) |
| 00:01.08 | benjamindees | nsadmin: as mentioned that doesn't set DISPLAY |
| 00:01.52 | xxtjaxx | In deed and I love my terminal |
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| 00:02.00 | mmonix | what is youtube channel called again? |
| 00:02.06 | xxtjaxx | also export DISPLAY=:0 is for su |
| 00:02.12 | mmonix | mistell |
| 00:02.16 | nsadmin | then alter the sshd config so that root logins are allowed, and ssh root@localhost |
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| 00:02.36 | nsadmin | this works on debian because the x server is run under ssh-agent |
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| 00:02.38 | luke3321 | ajavid: I fixed it, finally |
| 00:02.45 | xxtjaxx | nsadmin: oh sure and risk global security what the hell |
| 00:03.09 | NoCode | I can't log in as root since it's administrator. |
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| 00:03.14 | ajavid | luke3321, fantastic |
| 00:03.16 | nsadmin | oh please :P you can set it so that only locahost can do it |
| 00:03.17 | ajavid | luke3321, what was the fix" |
| 00:03.18 | ajavid | ? |
| 00:03.20 | xxtjaxx | nsadmin: su; export DISPLAY=:0 ; the run the apps |
| 00:03.31 | nsadmin | that won't work |
| 00:03.35 | NoCode | That's what it says anyway |
| 00:03.38 | xxtjaxx | -yes it does read KDE |
| 00:03.55 | nsadmin | then perhaps you're not running debian :) |
| 00:04.11 | xxtjaxx | this way you can test kde trunk apps as a second user logged in on a terminal |
| 00:04.39 | luke3321 | ajavid: I found the "outbound filters" thing, and just had it make a copy of any message going out to @lists.debian.org in their respective folder. I swear to god that outbound filters thing wasnt there 15 mins ago.... |
| 00:04.40 | xxtjaxx | I am running sidux |
| 00:05.13 | NoCode | found out I had to enable to login with root |
| 00:05.15 | NoCode | brb |
| 00:05.19 | nsadmin | ah, then sidux either is running xauth or xhost + |
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| 00:05.48 | nsadmin | if the latter, you should be worried about security |
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| 00:06.46 | xxtjaxx | xauth ... |
| 00:06.53 | xxtjaxx | hmm somethinsg cheesy hjere... |
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| 00:10.07 | simonrvn | lemme guess, nocode is on ubuntu... |
| 00:10.34 | quentusrex | For a debian package, in the control file, how to I specify which version of a package is required? I need exactly libtool 1.5.26 |
| 00:10.36 | nsadmin | dunno, but xxtjaxx was on sidux... |
| 00:11.12 | mabo_ | help me please |
| 00:11.15 | mabo_ | 2008_0925_RT2870_Linux_STA_v1.4.0.0.tar.bz2 |
| 00:11.22 | mabo_ | where cna I download it ? |
| 00:11.50 | simonrvn | quentusrex: here's a freebie: = |
| 00:11.57 | nsadmin | quentusrex: check the packaging manual or check the source of a package that has versioned depends... I think it's == version |
| 00:12.31 | quentusrex | thanks. I couldn't remember if it was ==, or = |
| 00:12.54 | enmerkar | mabo_: what's that supposed to be? |
| 00:13.30 | mabo_ | for usb stick WUSB600N |
| 00:13.43 | nsadmin | mabo_: you should search for that... there's only a coupla specific things that debian distributes as tarballs |
| 00:13.46 | enmerkar | driver? firmware? |
| 00:14.05 | mabo_ | driver |
| 00:14.22 | mabo_ | every linux site fpor this has expired |
| 00:14.44 | nsadmin | then maybe there's a newer one |
| 00:14.44 | mabo_ | wget http://www.ralinktech.com.tw/data/drivers/2008_0925_RT2870_Linux_STA_v1.4.0.0.tar.bz2 |
| 00:14.56 | justin | mabo_: doesn't debian already come with the driver for that? |
| 00:14.57 | mabo_ | I cannot find it sorry :( |
| 00:15.04 | mabo_ | no |
| 00:15.11 | mabo_ | I'm using bt4 prefinal |
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| 00:15.24 | nsadmin | that's not debian tho... is it? |
| 00:15.25 | justin | using what? |
| 00:15.28 | atirjavid | no |
| 00:15.32 | atirjavid | its ubuntu based |
| 00:15.42 | atirjavid | !bt4 |
| 00:15.42 | dpkg | BackTrack is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu> Intrepid (as of BackTrack 4), formerly <SLAX>. Derived from merging two penetration-testing distributions: WHAX (formerly WHOPPIX) and Auditor Security Linux. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.remote-exploit.org/backtrack.html #remote-exploit on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>. |
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| 00:16.16 | mabo_ | I cannot find it sorry :( |
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| 00:16.30 | atirjavid | luke3321, I see |
| 00:16.38 | atirjavid | luke3321, yay \o/ :) |
| 00:16.58 | nsadmin | let's reframe: "I cannot find it" -> "I haven't found it yet" |
| 00:16.59 | benjamindees | those ralink usb wifi dongles are junk; I gave mine away |
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| 00:17.21 | atirjavid | uses rt26pci |
| 00:17.26 | atirjavid | no idea about usb |
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| 00:21.25 | nsadmin | chpln: chrly? |
| 00:21.46 | chpln | nsadmin: nope. |
| 00:21.55 | benjamindees | mabo_ there is a slight chance I have that file on an old laptop here |
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| 00:22.12 | benjamindees | mabo_ how badly do you need it? |
| 00:22.31 | mabo_ | I fopund it here |
| 00:22.32 | mabo_ | http://ftp.riken.go.jp/Linux/momonga/updates/5/SOURCES/ |
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| 00:22.49 | mabo_ | benjamindees, |
| 00:22.54 | nsadmin | mabo_: see? the reframe worked! |
| 00:23.00 | mabo_ | i need for a usb stick eifi wusb600n |
| 00:23.11 | mabo_ | wifi |
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| 00:24.36 | nsadmin | mabo_: so apparantly you're more capable than you're saying... |
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| 00:31.32 | nsadmin | and is perm gone |
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| 00:36.02 | yggdrasil | hello, im installing xserver on an older ocmputer from a base lenny install, wondering if theres a guide around i know that install xserver-xorg misses something like core fonts or ... something like that . any advice is appreciated |
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| 00:41.53 | xerophyte | i have 64bit intel CPU, which version should have to download .. do i have to downlaod amd64? |
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| 00:43.24 | benjamindees | xerophyte: I would guess that or the regular 32 bit one; unless it's itanium of course |
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| 00:44.53 | xerophyte | hmm okay |
| 00:45.00 | xerophyte | going to try amd64 bit |
| 00:45.11 | xerophyte | but littel confused |
| 00:45.19 | yggdrasil | hmm |
| 00:45.22 | yggdrasil | hold no |
| 00:45.27 | yggdrasil | what dl page are you looking at ? |
| 00:46.20 | nsadmin | xerophyte: which cpu exactly? |
| 00:46.26 | yggdrasil | whats ia64 ? |
| 00:46.35 | nsadmin | itanium |
| 00:46.39 | benjamindees | yggdrasil: itanium |
| 00:46.51 | yggdrasil | isnt that what he needs ? |
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| 00:46.54 | nsadmin | which is NOT intel core 2 duo |
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| 00:47.04 | benjamindees | nobody uses itanium |
| 00:47.13 | nsadmin | well he hasn't answered the question yet |
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| 00:48.14 | nsadmin | xerophyte: YO... pay attention :P what cpu exactly do you have? |
| 00:48.15 | yggdrasil | hello, im installing xserver on an older ocmputer from a base lenny install, wondering if theres a guide around i know that install xserver-xorg misses something like core fonts or ... something like that . any advice is appreciated |
| 00:48.36 | azeem_ | yggdrasil: install xorg |
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| 00:49.12 | yggdrasil | yar |
| 00:49.21 | yggdrasil | doing it allready |
| 00:51.40 | NoCode | How can I get empathy 2.27.92 in Lenny? |
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| 00:52.55 | benjamindees | NoCode: build from source |
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| 00:54.15 | djshotglass | help!! |
| 00:54.25 | djshotglass | gnomes are attacking me |
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| 00:56.36 | flixil | I only need to do the client part, but I'm unable to get ppp0 up |
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| 01:05.05 | mabo_ | mabo@BT4-PREFINAL:/$ sudo kate |
| 01:05.05 | mabo_ | [sudo] password for mabo: |
| 01:05.05 | mabo_ | sudo: kate: command not found |
| 01:05.05 | mabo_ | mabo@BT4-PREFINAL:/$ |
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| 01:07.21 | djshotglass | sudo su kate? |
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| 01:07.44 | nsadmin | man su... that's not the same |
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| 01:08.14 | djshotglass | im asking if thats what he wanted to do |
| 01:08.24 | djshotglass | i know what su is |
| 01:08.33 | djshotglass | my 7 month daughter knows what su is |
| 01:08.40 | djshotglass | kate sounds like a user not a command |
| 01:08.48 | nsadmin | so you know that su <string> expects <string> to be a user |
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| 01:09.06 | djshotglass | lol yes |
| 01:09.13 | djshotglass | so does my dog btw |
| 01:09.27 | nsadmin | whereas sudo <string> expects <string> to be a command, which evidently isn't installed on his system |
| 01:09.43 | djshotglass | if infact hes trying to run the command kate |
| 01:09.52 | djshotglass | but like i said, sounds like hes trying to su to the user kate |
| 01:09.55 | nsadmin | oh, good point |
| 01:10.20 | nsadmin | su su sudosu |
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| 01:13.19 | DeSian_ | any way without script to run command in 2 hours late like aptitude update time=120min ? |
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| 01:15.56 | nsadmin | DeSian_: man at |
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| 01:16.09 | DeSian_ | nsadmin, thnx |
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| 01:16.33 | nsadmin | at and cron are handled by the same daemon on some unix-alikes |
| 01:17.21 | belak | Alright, I have a quick question... is there a way to get nvidia 173 drivers working in testing... without keeping the outdated 2.6.26 kernel? |
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| 01:20.54 | nsadmin | belak: so are you running that kernel now? |
| 01:21.23 | belak | nsadmin: yes |
| 01:21.29 | belak | nsadmin: Well, no |
| 01:21.39 | nsadmin | ok, what's your uname -r? |
| 01:21.42 | belak | neoice: I have it, but I'm running 2.6.30 |
| 01:21.53 | belak | nsadmin: 2.6.30-1-686 |
| 01:22.19 | nsadmin | can you run an x server now? |
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| 01:22.41 | belak | nsadmin: Yes. With the nvidia driver too, just don't like having the outdated kernel |
| 01:23.02 | nsadmin | you could try to rebuild the package |
| 01:23.22 | nsadmin | are you running nv at this moment? |
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| 01:23.56 | belak | nsadmin: no... I can't uninstall the linux kernel 2.6.26, or whatever... |
| 01:24.05 | belak | nsadmin: not without removing nvidia-glx |
| 01:24.31 | nsadmin | ok, so I'm not sure what the issue is |
| 01:25.13 | nsadmin | so you're running the nvidia driver now, yes? |
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| 01:26.11 | AK|laptop | Hi, I really need to configure libnotify but I can't find how. |
| 01:26.22 | nsadmin | you're not quite answering the exact questions I'm asking... so I end up having to ask for additional info |
| 01:26.35 | AK|laptop | I'm sick of Pidgin's alerts appearing in the bottom-right corner of the screen, eclipsing my windows. |
| 01:26.59 | belak | nsadmin: Yes |
| 01:27.35 | nsadmin | ok, so whether you can run the driver is not the issue |
| 01:27.42 | nsadmin | how did you install it? |
| 01:27.55 | belak | nsadmin: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx |
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| 01:28.19 | nsadmin | how did you install the nvidia driver itself? |
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| 01:28.58 | nsadmin | you might try this... |
| 01:29.04 | nsadmin | !nvidia |
| 01:29.05 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
| 01:29.06 | nsadmin | or |
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| 01:29.15 | nsadmin | !nvidia m-a |
| 01:29.16 | dpkg | The short version: aptitude install module-assistant; m-a prepare; m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. For instructions that should work, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. |
| 01:29.17 | belak | nsadmin: sudo nvidia-xconfig --nologo |
| 01:29.57 | AK|laptop | I guess it would be... libnotify1? How do I configure that, guys? |
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| 01:30.09 | nsadmin | you should try everything before the first && and after the second |
| 01:30.47 | nsadmin | before you exit m-a, confirm to it you want to install the resulting package |
| 01:31.18 | belak | nsadmin: thanks... I'll let you know how it goes |
| 01:31.37 | nsadmin | reasoning: the nvidia package you have installed is versioned such that it depends on the older kernel, hence you have to keep that |
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| 01:34.12 | AK|laptop | Somebody could have mentioned gconf-editor. >_> |
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| 01:39.28 | AK|laptop | ...wow, there are a bunch of neat things in here. |
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| 01:43.34 | gnukid | no convos/ |
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| 01:45.35 | belak | nsadmin: kernel module failed to build |
| 01:45.44 | settntrenz | what is the deb equivalent to redhats chkconfig --list (i know update-rc.d will add and remove services from running within systemV, but I need to list all services and what run-levels they will be active in)? |
| 01:46.19 | belak | !nvidia |
| 01:46.19 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). |
| 01:46.25 | belak | !m-a |
| 01:46.26 | dpkg | somebody said module-assistant was a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and install them. "aptitude install module-assistant && m-a prepare". See usage examples at http://wiki.debian.org/ModuleAssistant Log files from successful (and unsuccessful!) builds can be found in /var/cache/modass/. |
| 01:46.36 | belak | !nvidia m-a |
| 01:46.36 | dpkg | The short version: aptitude install module-assistant; m-a prepare; m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. For instructions that should work, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. |
| 01:47.09 | karme | settntrenz: maybe you want to take a look at sysv-rc-conf |
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| 01:49.04 | belak | nsadmin: Ok, yeah, the m-a way did not work at all |
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| 01:51.12 | belak | How long does it take a package to get from sid to testing> |
| 01:51.13 | belak | ? |
| 01:51.30 | settntrenz | karme: thanks will do |
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| 01:51.50 | flixil | Hello, can someone help me to configure xl2tpd client on debian? I'm unable to get ppp0 when running /etc/init.d/xl2tpd start and echo 'c ZJU_VPN'> /var/run/xl2tpd/l2tp-control... I'm following the following paper translated from chinese. http://paste2.org/p/423544 |
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| 01:53.26 | flixil | I can see that xl2tpd is running but pppd (or something similar) is not... Also I don't see any log related to pppd (I enabled logs on xl2tpd) |
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| 01:53.46 | Without | how to check hard disk bad sector? |
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| 01:54.29 | flixil_ | You can check with ext3.fsck if ext3 |
| 01:54.50 | flixil_ | sorry fsck.ext3 |
| 01:56.06 | Without | ok |
| 01:56.10 | Without | just type in console? |
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| 01:57.18 | flixil_ | Without: I think you need to type options and device |
| 01:57.50 | flixil_ | Without: you might want -c option but I recomend you doing it though a live-cd |
| 01:58.06 | flixil_ | Because it's better if it's not mounted at all |
| 01:58.13 | Without | how can i check my device? |
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| 01:59.22 | Andorin | Anyone have any tips on how one would configure notification-daemon? |
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| 02:01.23 | flixil_ | Without: try typing mount to see mounted devices |
| 02:01.41 | Without | ok |
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| 02:05.06 | nsadmin | belak: didn't work? not quite understanding that phrase. didn't work how? why? |
| 02:05.15 | Without | takes how long to check 2TB harddisk bad sector? |
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| 02:06.06 | flixil_ | Without: may take days? |
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| 02:06.29 | nvz | obviously that depends on the cpu mem bus speeds cache on disk..etc. |
| 02:07.34 | nsadmin | as well as the disk(s) itself |
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| 02:09.34 | nickoftime | I'm unable to get a PPP connection work, is anybody able to help? |
| 02:09.46 | nickoftime | using wvdial with a MF636 modem from Rogers |
| 02:10.10 | belak | nsadmin: http://pastebin.org/17531 |
| 02:10.20 | flixil_ | nickoftime: I'm unable to get vpn though ppp to work :P |
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| 02:12.42 | flixil__ | Can somebody help me with xl2ptd? This is the log it outputs when doing start and then stop |
| 02:12.48 | flixil__ | http://paste2.org/p/423554 |
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| 02:14.33 | nsadmin | belak: it looks like you need a version of the nv driver that's compatible with 2.6.30 |
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| 02:14.54 | belak | nsadmin: How long will it take for the one to get out of sid? |
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| 02:15.31 | nsadmin | no idea... 2 wks if there are no bugs |
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| 02:18.17 | belak | nsadmin: Grr.... is sid worth is just for the graphics card? |
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| 02:22.00 | PassingStranger | thinks 'living on the sid' would make for a good t-shirt |
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| 02:41.17 | lichangjian | #flood |
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| 02:44.56 | zeroConf | tell nsadmin about zeroconf |
| 02:45.05 | zeroConf | dpkg tell nsadmin about zeroconf |
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| 02:45.54 | helo_ | how do i get iceweasel 3.5 in sid? |
| 02:45.55 | zeroConf | sorry nsadmin - i thought it would be in channel |
| 02:46.23 | zeroConf | helo - use dselect |
| 02:46.38 | zeroConf | make sure you have the right *source* for it |
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| 02:47.51 | Evo2 | helo_: Maybe I'm missing the point of your question... aptitude install iceweael |
| 02:48.06 | meder | how can i learn more about how programs are compiled such as ./make make install , configure, etc? learn C? |
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| 02:48.28 | Evo2 | meder: gnu autotools |
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| 02:48.34 | nollidj | meder: if it's using ./configure, it's using autotools |
| 02:48.39 | meder | oh |
| 02:48.48 | nollidj | which is a build system that can build makefiles for you |
| 02:48.53 | helo_ | Evo2: that results in iceweasel 3.0.14 |
| 02:49.01 | meder | er |
| 02:49.01 | helo_ | Evo2: the point is to be running 3.5 |
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| 02:49.07 | meder | and how can i learn more about developing using that? |
| 02:49.19 | nollidj | makefiles are for make, a program that actually calls your compiler |
| 02:49.27 | Evo2 | helo_: did you do aptitude update first... 3.5 has been in sid for some time |
| 02:49.28 | nollidj | and the compiler is what turns the source code into machine code |
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| 02:49.38 | nollidj | you're probably well off learning some basic C and how to compile programs |
| 02:49.39 | nollidj | then make |
| 02:49.41 | nollidj | then autotools |
| 02:49.45 | meder | will do |
| 02:49.47 | meder | thanks |
| 02:49.54 | nollidj | any one of those is a huge subject, but dabbling in a bit of each can jump you up the latter |
| 02:50.01 | nollidj | ladder, sorry |
| 02:50.02 | nollidj | it's late |
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| 02:50.53 | helo_ | Evo2: yes, i just completed a dist-upgrade |
| 02:50.57 | zeroConf | meder - read the files... |
| 02:51.06 | nsadmin | you might need to "dabble" in m4 if you want to understand autotools... |
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| 02:51.25 | nollidj | autotools makes me cry |
| 02:51.49 | Evo2 | helo_: are the sid repos really in yout sources.list? |
| 02:52.03 | Evo2 | helo_: What is in /etc/debian_version? |
| 02:52.10 | helo_ | Evo2: %s/lenny/sid/g |
| 02:52.34 | helo_ | squeeze/sid |
| 02:52.43 | xeon-enouf | nollidj: "AccelMethod" "UXA" is new - XAA and EXA are old |
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| 02:53.15 | Evo2 | helo_: oops, my bad. It seems 3.5 is in experimental |
| 02:53.22 | Evo2 | sid only has 3.0 |
| 02:53.28 | xeon-enouf | IW? yes |
| 02:53.45 | xeon-enouf | Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.2) Gecko/20090820 Iceweasel/3.5.2 (Debian-3.5.2-1) |
| 02:53.46 | helo_ | huffing xeon again, i see... |
| 02:54.00 | nsadmin | zeroConf, coupla things... dselect?! -eww-. second, what gives with the word definition? |
| 02:54.26 | nsadmin | disclaimer, my opinion on dselect is mine. |
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| 02:56.18 | xeon-enouf | helo_: you add exper repo into sources.list and type apt-get -t experimental install iceweasel |
| 02:56.21 | zeroConf | nsadmin - i said sorry about the word definition, my mistake, as for dselect - i use apt-get, but figure dselect offers *exploration* at least it did for me, got me thinking about all the options, and then i found more and more things... |
| 02:56.29 | xeon-enouf | helo_: after an updare |
| 02:56.39 | xeon-enouf | update* |
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| 02:57.23 | nsadmin | zeroConf: oh, well, ok... one thing tho, what prompted it? |
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| 02:57.57 | xeon-enouf | helo_: you also first have this; APT::Default-Release "unstable"; in /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 02:58.11 | nsadmin | oh, actually I see already. |
| 02:58.18 | zeroConf | nsadmin - someone was playing with it yesterday.... |
| 02:59.15 | xeon-enouf | helo_: that latter part is important - then see 'apt-cache policy' output, you'll see all others are 500 or 990, whereas exper is 1 or thereabouts |
| 02:59.39 | nsadmin | meder: so you want to understand the process of building? how you can build? do you also have interest in writing your own stuff? |
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| 03:00.51 | helo_ | oh... and i noticed when i dist-upgraded another machine that the console fonts became more legible... but not on this one |
| 03:01.01 | helo_ | how do i get the nice 'thin' console fonts? |
| 03:01.29 | xeon-enouf | helo_: man apt_preferences, but yuo don't need pinning |
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| 03:04.06 | xeon-enouf | helo_: no idea - seems some asshat moved or replaced /etc/console/config |
| 03:05.00 | Evo2 | helo_: you could try dpkg-reconfigure console-setup |
| 03:05.06 | Evo2 | then choose the Terminus font |
| 03:05.41 | xeon-enouf | why terminus? and what happened to console-data? |
| 03:06.08 | Evo2 | xeon-enouf, helo_: yeah reaconfiguring console-setup will put the options in /etc/config/console-setup |
| 03:06.24 | Evo2 | xeon-enouf: terminus is just a nice font |
| 03:06.40 | xeon-enouf | there is no /etc/config |
| 03:06.45 | helo_ | awesome, thanks |
| 03:06.48 | helo_ | brb... trying this out |
| 03:06.52 | Evo2 | xeon-enouf: iirc the way the console is setup in debian was changed a couple of months ago |
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| 03:07.15 | Evo2 | xeon-enouf: sorry, /etc/default/ |
| 03:07.26 | xeon-enouf | Evo2: yeah ... just like consolekit was integrated ... lmao |
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| 03:07.37 | xeon-enouf | ahh .. ok |
| 03:08.13 | xeon-enouf | # FONT='lat9w-08.psf.gz /usr/local/share/braillefonts/brl-08.psf |
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| 03:10.44 | dsdeiz_ | what's the most lightweight wm can you recommend? |
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| 03:11.20 | belak | dsdeiz: openbox, or awesome, or fluxbox |
| 03:11.29 | Evo2 | dsdeiz_: matchbox works well on a machine I have with 64MB ram |
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| 03:12.01 | xeon-enouf | dwm? |
| 03:12.05 | dsdeiz | Evo2: 64mb?? |
| 03:12.09 | dsdeiz | what about a tiling wm? |
| 03:12.26 | Evo2 | deface: I use awesome on my other machines |
| 03:12.28 | belak | dsdeiz: I guess awesome... it's a heavy lightweight |
| 03:12.41 | xeon-enouf | apt-cache search x-window-manager |
| 03:12.43 | dsdeiz | i'll try dwm |
| 03:13.07 | Evo2 | tab fail |
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| 03:13.47 | Evo2 | dsdeiz: My zaurus has 64mb ram |
| 03:14.34 | Gahthisfails | Hey, is it possible to look how much bandwidth you've used totally? |
| 03:14.57 | dsdeiz | and last thing, where can i find the debian site a guide for configuring debian from sounds to network connection to x server and the likes? |
| 03:15.10 | xeon-enouf | Gahthisfails: ifconfig |
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| 03:15.18 | xeon-enouf | shows RX and TX |
| 03:15.22 | Gahthisfails | Yes but that is not total |
| 03:15.26 | helo_ | ahh... much better |
| 03:15.34 | xeon-enouf | add up the ifaces total |
| 03:15.45 | xeon-enouf | cat /proc/net/dev |
| 03:16.24 | Gahthisfails | xeon-enouf, alright thanks |
| 03:16.26 | Evo2 | dsdeiz: aptitude install debian-reference-en |
| 03:16.47 | xeon-enouf | helo_: you too - install reference |
| 03:16.50 | dsdeiz | Evo2: it currently doesn't have internet connection |
| 03:17.09 | xeon-enouf | !reference |
| 03:17.09 | dpkg | The Debian Reference will answer most of your questions about Debian. Latest version is at http://qref.sf.net/ , also http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ . Read it after installing Debian and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. You can install this too, the package name is "debian-reference": 'aptitude install debian-reference' |
| 03:17.31 | Evo2 | hmm.... man interfaces |
| 03:17.43 | dsdeiz | ahh, so aptitude is more popular in debian |
| 03:18.02 | Evo2 | dsdeiz: it has been the recomended front end for some time home |
| 03:18.03 | xeon-enouf | apt-get is fine |
| 03:18.13 | Evo2 | s/home/now |
| 03:19.06 | Gahthisfails | Another question if thats ok, apperently removing courier-imap-ssl does not work. I've tried aptitude purge and apt-get remove |
| 03:19.16 | Gahthisfails | It gives me an error and reinstalling it won't work either |
| 03:19.24 | Gahthisfails | how do i remove it? |
| 03:19.34 | Gahthisfails | Without reinstalling the server if possible |
| 03:19.40 | Evo2 | Gahthisfails: dpkg --purge foo |
| 03:19.51 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 03:20.07 | Gahthisfails | That did not work either, Evo2 |
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| 03:20.40 | xeon-enouf | TrueDD: it's ok to say something other than hello/goodbye :-P |
| 03:20.42 | Evo2 | Gahthisfails: does "aptitude install" with no other arguments get the system in a better state? |
| 03:21.04 | Gahthisfails | Nope |
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| 03:21.18 | Evo2 | Gahthisfails: what about 'dpkg --configure --pending'? |
| 03:21.25 | xeon-enouf | Evo2: add -f |
| 03:21.30 | xeon-enouf | er |
| 03:21.32 | TrueDD | xeon-enouf, I said, the next time ! :D |
| 03:21.36 | xeon-enouf | apt-get install -f |
| 03:21.48 | xeon-enouf | TrueDD: ok .. carry on ;-) |
| 03:21.52 | Evo2 | -f = --fix-missing ? |
| 03:21.57 | Gahthisfails | Still don't work, Evo2 |
| 03:22.03 | TrueDD | bye all |
| 03:22.09 | xeon-enouf | Gahthisfails: does dpkg -l courier-imap-ssl show anything? |
| 03:22.09 | TrueDD | see you |
| 03:22.21 | Gahthisfails | yes |
| 03:22.27 | Gahthisfails | xeon-enouf, yes* |
| 03:22.29 | xeon-enouf | Evo2: --fix-broken |
| 03:22.35 | Evo2 | xeon-enouf: ahh |
| 03:22.44 | xeon-enouf | Gahthisfails: what's the status? |
| 03:22.46 | Gahthisfails | '| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed' |
| 03:22.56 | xeon-enouf | no |
| 03:22.59 | xeon-enouf | last line |
| 03:23.03 | xeon-enouf | ii ? |
| 03:23.12 | Evo2 | in? |
| 03:23.18 | xeon-enouf | that's the header Gahthisfails |
| 03:23.18 | Gahthisfails | I'm not getting you, what? |
| 03:23.24 | belak | Any way to down-grade from sid? |
| 03:23.36 | Gahthisfails | (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) |
| 03:23.37 | xeon-enouf | dpkg -l courier-imap-ssl | tail -1 |
| 03:23.37 | dpkg | No packages found matching courier-imap-ssl | tail -1 |
| 03:23.39 | Evo2 | Gahthisfails: dpkg -l courier-imap-ssl | grep courier-imap-ssl |
| 03:23.56 | Gahthisfails | only shows this, pF courier-imap-ssl 4.1.1.20060828-5 Courier Mail Server - IMAP over SSL |
| 03:24.31 | Evo2 | Gahthisfails: F, means failed config. |
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| 03:24.36 | helo_ | has never regretted ditching courier for dovecot |
| 03:24.47 | Gahthisfails | alright so how do i fix it? |
| 03:25.21 | xeon-enouf | try Gahthisfails apt-get install courier-imap-ssl ; apt-get install -f |
| 03:25.38 | xeon-enouf | then worry about removing it |
| 03:25.43 | Gahthisfails | It failed, xeon-enouf |
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| 03:26.20 | xeon-enouf | well.. try aptitude why courier-imap-ssl ? or just aptitude purge courier-imap-ssl perhaps |
| 03:26.41 | Gahthisfails | purging it failed as i said before :p thats why i came here |
| 03:26.48 | xeon-enouf | you can remove it manually i guess .. |
| 03:27.19 | Gahthisfails | oh? |
| 03:28.07 | xeon-enouf | Gahthisfails: edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/courier-imap-ssl* .prerm and .postrm, and place 'exit 0' on line just after #!/bin/bash |
| 03:28.37 | xeon-enouf | Gahthisfails: then remove the .deb and /etc/ and any ~ files and dirs |
| 03:28.51 | xeon-enouf | Gahthisfails: this method isn't recommended :-P |
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| 03:28.58 | Gahthisfails | why not? |
| 03:29.37 | rumpsy | As a user i can't able to create and edit files in /var... |
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| 03:30.03 | rumpsy | How can i access and take owership of /var |
| 03:30.09 | Gahthisfails | I can't find .deb |
| 03:30.28 | rumpsy | dpkgbot:dpkg |
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| 03:31.31 | xeon-enouf | rumpsy: $ touch /var/tmp/somfil |
| 03:31.46 | xeon-enouf | rumpsy: is /var/ mounted ro? |
| 03:32.11 | rumpsy | I'm now logged in as a user not as root |
| 03:32.17 | xeon-enouf | Gahthisfails: if dpkg knows about it, there is/was a .deb |
| 03:32.17 | Gahthisfails | ok so i've put exit 0 on the .prerm and .postrm |
| 03:32.27 | Gahthisfails | and i can't find a .deb in there |
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| 03:32.51 | xeon-enouf | Gahthisfails: look in /usr/local/ - did you compile your own? did you build your own pkg? |
| 03:32.52 | rumpsy | touch /var/tmp/somfil ? |
| 03:33.04 | xeon-enouf | rumpsy: works here |
| 03:33.06 | Gahthisfails | I did not |
| 03:33.16 | Gahthisfails | its a VPS which i bought |
| 03:33.29 | xeon-enouf | rumpsy: somefile - doesn't matter the name |
| 03:33.40 | rumpsy | touch /var/tmp/somfil, explain me about tis command |
| 03:33.48 | xeon-enouf | man touch |
| 03:34.20 | xeon-enouf | rumpsy: it generates a 0byte file |
| 03:35.31 | xeon-enouf | rumpsy: you can a) easily su to root, or b) use sudo or c) pastebin output of cat /proc/mounts |
| 03:35.48 | rumpsy | Oops, i want to copy a folder to /var/www , so that i can create a web page in drupal, but as a user i can't create .... |
| 03:35.48 | xeon-enouf | just look for 'ro' |
| 03:35.53 | xeon-enouf | oh |
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| 03:36.12 | xeon-enouf | well, that user would be www-data IINM |
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| 03:37.07 | helo_ | how do i make use of the legacy nvidia driver (tnt2)? |
| 03:37.07 | Gahthisfails | so do i have to reinstall the vps or what? |
| 03:37.11 | xeon-enouf | but ... not sure best way to do this ... maybe man a2ensites? see Document* |
| 03:37.22 | helo_ | there isn't even a xorg.conf to modify... |
| 03:37.23 | xeon-enouf | helo_: follow the wiki |
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| 03:37.32 | xeon-enouf | helo_: generate one |
| 03:37.38 | xeon-enouf | !xorg.conf |
| 03:37.38 | dpkg | From Lenny onwards, xorg mostly configures itself. Things like resolution are configured by your desktop environment or <xrandr>. As a result, the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is usually no longer needed - and is often blank - but manual configuration is still possible. Use "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to set your keyboard layout, use "X -configure" ("X -configure :1" if server is already active) to produce a xorg.conf template. |
| 03:37.56 | rumpsy | xeon: i can't any user like you mentioned! |
| 03:38.40 | xeon-enouf | helo_: i've done it using a riva tnt2 pro some months back |
| 03:38.54 | rumpsy | xeon: i can't find anyuser as you mentioned |
| 03:39.01 | markybob | jesus...people still have tnt2? :P |
| 03:39.16 | xeon-enouf | 32MB! AGP 2x ! |
| 03:39.25 | xeon-enouf | ;-) |
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| 03:39.44 | rumpsy | Mibbit, or chatzilla? |
| 03:39.57 | yggdrasil | hmmm anyone here familiar with lenny on an old imac ? or is there another channel i should ve in ? |
| 03:39.58 | xeon-enouf | some of us still have a 1M Trident on our baby AT :-P |
| 03:40.19 | xeon-enouf | yggdrasil: oldworld mac? |
| 03:40.23 | markybob | xeon-enouf, you should consider suicide |
| 03:40.24 | xeon-enouf | see #debianppc |
| 03:40.27 | GhostlyDeath | xeon-enouf: You the enouf I know of? |
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| 03:40.44 | rumpsy | ygg: its not a good question! |
| 03:40.46 | Gahthisfails | slaps GhostlyDeath around a bit with a large trout |
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| 03:40.51 | Gahthisfails | Its me, LobbyZ |
| 03:40.51 | xeon-enouf | markybob: nah - then i'd miss all the assholes that make me laugh ;-) |
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| 03:41.07 | Gahthisfails | xeon-enouf, should i reinstall the VPS? |
| 03:41.08 | xeon-enouf | GhostlyDeath: yep |
| 03:41.14 | yggdrasil | no its a new world mac |
| 03:41.24 | yggdrasil | everythings working great on it |
| 03:41.26 | xeon-enouf | yggdrasil: still - see channel |
| 03:41.29 | yggdrasil | im on it now , but xorg ahh.. |
| 03:41.35 | xeon-enouf | and mailing list perhaps yggdrasil |
| 03:41.42 | yggdrasil | thanks. |
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| 03:42.28 | LobbyZ | okay i take that as a no then |
| 03:42.31 | GhostlyDeath | Trout slapping is frowned upon here |
| 03:42.45 | xeon-enouf | heh |
| 03:46.02 | simonrvn | think of the trout! |
| 03:46.09 | crzedmonk | fuck your trout |
| 03:46.19 | GhostlyDeath | language! |
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| 03:46.25 | xeon-enouf | trout sex? |
| 03:46.32 | simonrvn | my my, a fish hater |
| 03:46.43 | LobbyZ | lol |
| 03:46.44 | xeon-enouf | fish! |
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| 03:47.56 | dsdeiz | ok, i'm off to configuring my internet connection in my debian computer. wish me luck! :D |
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| 03:48.30 | LobbyZ | There we go |
| 03:48.31 | xeon-enouf | dsdeiz: seen /msg dpkg interfaces ? |
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| 03:48.38 | rumpsy | How can i give write permission to a folder |
| 03:48.42 | xeon-enouf | dsdeiz: seen /msg dpkg resolv.conf ? |
| 03:48.58 | GhostlyDeath | rumpsy: chmod +w directory |
| 03:48.59 | xeon-enouf | rumpsy: man chmod |
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| 03:49.05 | xeon-enouf | careful though |
| 03:49.15 | Pavlz | hello Ninux Day 2009 Community Networks Meeting from 27 to 29 November 2009 to Defrag_, Rome, Italy, http://wiki.ninux.org/NinuxDay2009en |
| 03:49.21 | xeon-enouf | rumpsy: man a2[TAB][TAB] |
| 03:49.39 | rumpsy | okay |
| 03:49.49 | simonrvn | Pavlz: don't do that |
| 03:50.14 | Pavlz | don't do what ? |
| 03:50.30 | NoCode | simonrvn, hey dude, how's it going? |
| 03:50.43 | xeon-enouf | rumpsy: /msg dpkg permissions (for general perm info) however /var/www/ for apache should be setup properly - read apache{2} docs |
| 03:50.44 | NoCode | (it's J-_) |
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| 03:50.51 | Pavlz | i left only a communication |
| 03:50.51 | simonrvn | hello |
| 03:51.05 | simonrvn | right |
| 03:51.21 | simonrvn | NoCode: not too bad |
| 03:52.08 | NoCode | that's good. :) |
| 03:52.37 | simonrvn | you, you ok? |
| 03:53.12 | NoCode | Pretty good yeah. Having Lenny installed. :) |
| 03:53.16 | NoCode | Have* |
| 03:53.21 | simonrvn | nice |
| 03:53.51 | NoCode | Just did it tonight. It wasn't that bad. I'm just looking for things to install/ compile |
| 03:54.01 | simonrvn | heh :) |
| 03:54.03 | NoCode | Haven't did so in a while |
| 03:54.26 | NoCode | Going to be sticking with Debian though. Ubuntu is FEH. I do not like Karmic. |
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| 03:55.37 | NoCode | I'd much rather have something stable with backports. Then something like a stable sid, and have things being worked on, and right messed up. |
| 03:55.48 | simonrvn | i have ubuntu on one of the partitions here. guess where i spend 99.9% of my time? ;) |
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| 03:56.30 | simonrvn | squeeze/sid |
| 03:56.44 | simonrvn | /exec -o cat /etc/debian_version |
| 03:56.47 | NoCode | same here. But, this installation I have it seems very stable. And, I'm getting things installed, and working great. I haven't really tried anything graphically intense |
| 03:56.49 | NoCode | nice |
| 03:57.04 | NoCode | 5.0.3 |
| 03:57.41 | NoCode | Linux defacto 2.6.30-bpo.1-686 #1 SMP Mon Aug 17 14:57:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 03:57.49 | NoCode | Worked pretty well |
| 03:58.00 | simonrvn | i'm used to sid, but much rather have a lenny+bpo on my critical boxen |
| 03:58.19 | NoCode | cool |
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| 03:58.35 | NoCode | Will HAL ever deprecate in Debian? |
| 03:58.57 | simonrvn | dunno |
| 03:59.15 | xeon-enouf | nah |
| 03:59.25 | helo_ | xeon-enouf: the nvidia.ko from nvidia-kernel-legacy-71xx-source compilaton failed |
| 03:59.34 | xeon-enouf | it's getting more and more intermingled |
| 03:59.38 | khufu | which versin is most like fedora in terms of versions |
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| 03:59.51 | helo_ | xeon-enouf: i'd be willing to bet it is made to compile with an older gcc, but i don't know how that will work out with my kernel compiled with 4.3.4 |
| 03:59.51 | xeon-enouf | helo_: good work |
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| 04:00.12 | markybob | everything deprecates eventually...aside from fucking pcspkr. that damn module |
| 04:00.20 | simonrvn | khufu: 0 |
| 04:00.24 | xeon-enouf | why using gcc 4.3.4 ? |
| 04:00.28 | simonrvn | different distros... |
| 04:00.37 | helo_ | i just noticed from the compilation log that is what is being used |
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| 04:01.12 | xeon-enouf | cat /proc/version |
| 04:01.17 | NoCode | I think now I'd like to find out how to customize xorg |
| 04:01.19 | rumpsy | xeon: i got the permissions |
| 04:01.29 | dsdeiz | oh men.. :( stupid isp shows me a web portal to login before activating my internet connection |
| 04:01.43 | khufu | whats 0 simonrvn ? |
| 04:01.52 | xeon-enouf | 0 == none |
| 04:02.40 | NoCode | Hopefully I can get a little more zing with my GM965 |
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| 04:02.51 | rumpsy | When i see clips in youtube.com, video hangs and not playing properly |
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| 04:03.23 | khufu | xeon-enouf, so fedora is close ot being the most cutting edge of all distros |
| 04:03.36 | rumpsy | i'm using Iceweasel Web browser |
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| 04:04.06 | portn0k | well, ive got a problem, im putting windows 2003 server on a spare box of mine for a windows development environment, cbf with a VM. so.. ive got the ISO, its 701 mb, 1 mb too large for my CD-R, and my spare box has only a CD-ROM, no DVD support. how should i go about extracting the ISO contents, (to remove some files), and rebuilding a bootable .ISO? |
| 04:04.44 | NoCode | I'm using both Firefox 3.5 lastest beta, same with Thunderbird |
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| 04:05.14 | NoCode | Also install Gimp 2.6 ;D |
| 04:05.18 | NoCode | installed* |
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| 04:08.39 | xeon-enouf | portn0k: use overburn option |
| 04:08.45 | helo_ | shits all over his nvidia tnt2 |
| 04:08.56 | portn0k | xeon-enouf, use that option on what? |
| 04:09.15 | xeon-enouf | portn0k: whichever burning app you use - wodim is fine |
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| 04:09.43 | portn0k | and what exactly does taht do? |
| 04:10.57 | xeon-enouf | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:11.11 | xeon-enouf | 2$ wodim --help 2>&1 | less |
| 04:11.16 | nollidj | helo_: hey, i really wanted one of those back in 1999 |
| 04:11.31 | nollidj | tnt2 ultra would have made half-life shine |
| 04:11.46 | portn0k | xeon-enouf, oh i see, seems like it would negatively affect the process though.. nothing will be overwritten or left out? |
| 04:13.23 | xeon-enouf | portn0k: no, it's fine, especially for 1M |
| 04:13.52 | portn0k | xeon-enouf, good deal, looking up syntax now |
| 04:13.56 | portn0k | (for burning that is) |
| 04:14.03 | helo_ | nollidj: apparently newish compilers can't even compile the drivers for it any mor e:/ |
| 04:14.43 | xeon-enouf | wodim driveropt=burnfree -dao -overburn -dummy filename.ISO |
| 04:14.52 | xeon-enouf | er driveropts* |
| 04:15.09 | xeon-enouf | then remove -dummy ;-) |
| 04:16.45 | xeon-enouf | helo_: i found an MX400 eventually for my pII :-P |
| 04:16.53 | portn0k | wodim: Sorry, no CD/DVD-Recorder or unsupported CD/DVD-Recorder found on this target. |
| 04:16.54 | portn0k | baw |
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| 04:17.04 | nollidj | helo_: ...wow |
| 04:17.05 | xeon-enouf | portn0k: install it |
| 04:17.10 | xeon-enouf | !installit |
| 04:17.10 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
| 04:17.39 | portn0k | ive got wodim.. |
| 04:17.58 | xeon-enouf | portn0k: try as root |
| 04:18.07 | portn0k | same. |
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| 04:18.13 | portn0k | ill keep poking at it |
| 04:18.13 | xeon-enouf | is your user part of cdrom audio groups? |
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| 04:18.34 | xeon-enouf | portn0k: dpkg -l wodim | tail -1 |
| 04:18.46 | xeon-enouf | oh |
| 04:18.49 | xeon-enouf | heh |
| 04:18.58 | xeon-enouf | dmesg | grep ATAPI |
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| 04:19.11 | portn0k | [ 30.872710] ata1.00: ATAPI: HP DVD Writer 640, ES04, max UDMA/33 |
| 04:19.11 | portn0k | [ 30.872735] ata1.01: ATAPI: ASUS CD-S480/A5, 0.99, max UDMA/33 |
| 04:19.12 | xeon-enouf | cat /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info |
| 04:19.34 | xeon-enouf | portn0k: add dev=/dev/cdrom or similar |
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| 04:20.15 | xeon-enouf | wodim driveropts=burnfree -dao -overburn -dummy dev=/dev/cdrom filename.ISO or something |
| 04:20.32 | portn0k | indeed, apparently it cant |
| 04:20.32 | portn0k | oh |
| 04:20.35 | portn0k | i think i see |
| 04:20.46 | portn0k | got it |
| 04:20.50 | portn0k | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:20.56 | xeon-enouf | apparently you alos have a DVD writer :-P |
| 04:21.00 | portn0k | indeed |
| 04:21.34 | portn0k | hey thanks for the help xeon-enouf, im not some nub, i only use linux for the desktop, i tend to stay in command line most of my time on *BSD machines |
| 04:21.49 | portn0k | linux tools = unfamiliar to me |
| 04:21.50 | xeon-enouf | portn0k: no prob ;-) |
| 04:22.04 | portn0k | speaking of, whats the latest deb release? |
| 04:22.09 | portn0k | its not still lenny is it |
| 04:22.33 | xeon-enouf | well .. Stable is the latest "release" but /msg dpkg releases |
| 04:22.53 | xeon-enouf | there's testing and unstable also |
| 04:22.56 | portn0k | groovy |
| 04:23.11 | simonrvn | what's a nub? |
| 04:23.41 | portn0k | newbie, *n?x virgin, etc |
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| 04:24.39 | xeon-enouf | portn0k: which bsd do you mostly use? |
| 04:24.49 | portn0k | i use freebsd on my servers, open on my router |
| 04:25.02 | xeon-enouf | ahh - ok |
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| 04:25.31 | xeon-enouf | (was waiting to hear, OSX , heh) |
| 04:25.33 | portn0k | xeon-enouf, http://nopaste.org/p/age3tnDfr <-- olawd |
| 04:25.35 | portn0k | pfft |
| 04:25.40 | xeon-enouf | lmao |
| 04:25.41 | portn0k | well |
| 04:25.43 | portn0k | truth be told |
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| 04:25.54 | portn0k | i use my moms macbook as extra storage |
| 04:25.56 | NoCode | Will the newest empathy/telepathy work in lenny? |
| 04:25.57 | portn0k | scp and the like |
| 04:25.58 | xeon-enouf | hold ears and sings LA LA LA LA |
| 04:26.21 | xeon-enouf | (what's that factoid, hehe) |
| 04:27.45 | portn0k | hrm, the error message suggests that the ISO was too large |
| 04:27.47 | xeon-enouf | portn0k: try the ASUS instead? |
| 04:27.52 | xeon-enouf | no |
| 04:28.11 | portn0k | i suppose so, i have 2 remaining CD-R's and i'd hate to waste one |
| 04:28.12 | portn0k | i will try though |
| 04:28.38 | xeon-enouf | portn0k: if using RW media, blank it prior |
| 04:28.44 | portn0k | nope, just R |
| 04:28.47 | xeon-enouf | oh |
| 04:28.53 | portn0k | xeon-enouf, what *bsd do you prefer |
| 04:29.01 | xeon-enouf | portn0k: hence -dummy option |
| 04:29.09 | portn0k | you said to leave it out |
| 04:29.21 | xeon-enouf | portn0k: haven't messed with many yet - looked at open sometime back |
| 04:29.28 | portn0k | ah |
| 04:29.34 | xeon-enouf | portn0k: for the actual burn, yes |
| 04:29.58 | portn0k | also; ASUS does not have writing capabiliites |
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| 04:30.06 | xeon-enouf | heh |
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| 04:30.18 | portn0k | gets frustrated |
| 04:30.44 | xeon-enouf | CDRW drives are like what 20$ ? .. and markybob is complaining about a tnt2? lmao |
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| 04:31.29 | portn0k | see; ive got 2 boxes, i figured i'd use the smaller one to put underneith my rightmost monitor on my desk. i could use the other machine i have in the garage, but that would mean first 7z'ing 30gb of data, then scping it over through a very ancient and slow NIC |
| 04:31.46 | portn0k | although i do have a spare drive for it.. |
| 04:31.48 | portn0k | ponders |
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| 04:32.08 | rumpsy | Thank you for kind support, G2g, bye |
| 04:32.17 | portn0k | rumpsy, youre very welcome |
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| 04:39.15 | brsoft | hello I upgraded my firefox and now it isnt saving my session variables so after login into a website. if I click anywhere its like I didnt because the session variable blow up |
| 04:40.33 | portn0k | exploding variables does not benifit the user |
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| 04:41.12 | superjoe | does libdrm-intel1 replace libgl1-mesa-dri ? |
| 04:41.17 | superjoe | in squeeze |
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| 04:48.18 | xeon-enouf | judd: depends libdrm-intel1 |
| 04:49.07 | xeon-enouf | $ apt-cache show libdrm-intel1 |
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| 04:50.23 | rares | is this going to be ready for debian: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/anholt/drm-intel.git;a=commit;h=e517a5e97080bbe52857bd0d7df9b66602d53c4d |
| 04:50.27 | xeon-enouf | superjoe: i have both installed here (allthree actually) |
| 04:50.36 | rares | 2.6.30 |
| 04:51.00 | xeon-enouf | libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri libdrm-intel1 |
| 04:51.04 | superjoe | xeon-enouf: hmm when I try to install libgl1-mesa-dri now, aptitude wants to uninstall xserver |
| 04:51.58 | superjoe | xeon-enouf: have you done a full-upgrade recently? I think this stuff just rolled out |
| 04:52.23 | rares | if you have intel hold off on that until they fix the kernel agp driver |
| 04:52.46 | rares | there's a NASTY bug that causes random lock ups |
| 04:52.51 | xeon-enouf | superjoe: i'm on sid, and no, no recent upgrade |
| 04:53.02 | superjoe | xeon-enouf: ah ok - I'm on squeeze |
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| 04:53.21 | xeon-enouf | superjoe: i hear .31 fixes siome intel issues, as X 2.8.1 was supposed to prior |
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| 04:53.51 | rares | xeon-enouf don't go to the next xserver (in other words no Gnome 2.26) until .31 or .30-#whichfixesit |
| 04:54.03 | superjoe | can't wait for that. is it in sid already? |
| 04:54.18 | rares | it's a kernel bug |
| 04:54.26 | xeon-enouf | rares: aye ;-) i have this thing; "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" :-P |
| 04:54.38 | rares | the fix was reported yesterday it's not packaged yet |
| 04:54.48 | xeon-enouf | superjoe: the .31 should be soon ... just wait |
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| 04:54.51 | rares | superjoe wait for .31 |
| 04:55.01 | atirjavid | *sigh* |
| 04:55.06 | atirjavid | !kernel-package |
| 04:55.06 | dpkg | To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz. You should also ask me about <make-kpkg>, <kp mantra> and <kernel build-deps>. |
| 04:55.13 | atirjavid | Roll your own |
| 04:55.16 | rares | xeon-enouf, I had to do a complete reinstall because of it |
| 04:55.30 | portn0k | xeon-enouf, i was thinking about using debian for one of my servers im doing VPS hosting on, does debian or the like have any good free virtualization software? freebsd has none, well.. none ive ever got working anyways. |
| 04:55.34 | rares | atirjavid, it requires a patch |
| 04:55.34 | superjoe | heh, "can't wait" as in the expression of impatience. I will definitely wait. |
| 04:55.42 | atirjavid | rares, and what prevents you from patching it? |
| 04:55.55 | portn0k | xeon-enouf, VM's manageable via command line, mind you |
| 04:56.02 | rares | there is no patch tested yet |
| 04:56.12 | rares | all there is a request to do so |
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| 04:56.19 | atirjavid | rares, you said the fix was already up yesterday, just hadn't made it into debian |
| 04:56.23 | atirjavid | oh |
| 04:56.29 | atirjavid | just a request for the fix |
| 04:56.44 | rares | yes it's coded but it hasn't been diffed |
| 04:56.46 | rares | even |
| 04:56.51 | atirjavid | I see |
| 04:56.59 | rares | plus even if |
| 04:57.01 | xeon-enouf | portn0k: there's many options, depending on CPU .. and if you need to run windows in them |
| 04:57.07 | rares | this is a work comp |
| 04:57.17 | rares | i can't afford to wait for gcc |
| 04:57.42 | rares | i also only have 512MB on this chihuahua |
| 04:57.43 | xeon-enouf | KVM for all linux, Xen, openvz, vbox, vmware, vserver qemu even |
| 04:57.51 | portn0k | xeon-enouf, 8 intel cores @ 2.x ghz, and no; just ubuntu/slax servers mostly |
| 04:58.00 | portn0k | oh i see, ill poke at them |
| 04:58.05 | xeon-enouf | rares: 512 here too - it's plenty ;-) |
| 04:58.12 | portn0k | yeah, freebsd doesnt like running VMs |
| 04:58.51 | rares | mine goes berserk especially if iceweasel is loading imageries |
| 04:59.02 | rares | what is up with iceweasel too |
| 04:59.11 | rares | is that because of the intel thing? |
| 04:59.11 | portn0k | debian still prefers iceweasel to firefox? |
| 04:59.20 | rares | prefers? |
| 04:59.33 | rares | it's called NOT ALLOWED |
| 04:59.37 | superjoe | rares: are you talking about that xul-runner bug where some websites don't repaint properly in iceweasel |
| 04:59.39 | rares | by Mozcorp |
| 04:59.39 | ultralazer | firefox is trademarked, so "iceweasel" is a name that isn't trademarked. |
| 04:59.41 | xeon-enouf | rares: running sid? |
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| 05:00.25 | rares | i'm talking about cpu and hard disk throttling when loading image galleries |
| 05:00.30 | superjoe | oh |
| 05:00.46 | rares | thrashing rather |
| 05:00.57 | portn0k | rares, whys that? from a security standpoint you mean? |
| 05:00.59 | rares | the cpu thrashing is nuts but not unusual |
| 05:01.09 | rares | i don;t understand why it goes insane on the hd |
| 05:01.31 | xeon-enouf | rares: add exper repo to sources.list, make sure /etc/apt/apt.conf contains APT::Default-Release "unstable"; then update and use -t experimental to install 3.5.x |
| 05:01.32 | rares | not ALLOWED from trademark standpoint |
| 05:01.47 | portn0k | oh i see |
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| 05:01.51 | rares | 3.5.x does it as well |
| 05:02.04 | rares | in fact 3.0 behaves better for now |
| 05:02.11 | xeon-enouf | well, then install adblock and flashblock :-P |
| 05:02.15 | portn0k | rares, i dont quite understand what youre talking about, i wasnt aware of any of that |
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| 05:02.23 | rares | it's not ads |
| 05:02.32 | rares | it's image galleries |
| 05:02.47 | rares | they turn my responsiveness to dust |
| 05:03.29 | xeon-enouf | rares: i don't know what an "image galleries" is |
| 05:03.31 | portn0k | im not sure if youre talking to me righ now or... |
| 05:03.38 | xeon-enouf | rares: try links2 -g ;-) |
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| 05:03.43 | portn0k | lawl |
| 05:03.47 | portn0k | lynx even |
| 05:03.48 | xeon-enouf | rares: that's my main browser BTW |
| 05:03.49 | rares | portn0k, ole Mozorg decided they wanted to push the rule: if you change it you must change the name |
| 05:04.04 | rares | i have been to some extent using links |
| 05:04.04 | xeon-enouf | portn0k: it does GUI .. even in Console |
| 05:04.12 | portn0k | you mean with pictures? |
| 05:04.17 | xeon-enouf | yes |
| 05:04.19 | portn0k | wtfhax |
| 05:04.21 | xeon-enouf | pr0n and all |
| 05:04.24 | portn0k | i had no clue |
| 05:04.26 | portn0k | the -g flag eh |
| 05:04.28 | xeon-enouf | !links2 |
| 05:04.28 | dpkg | [links2] a text and graphics browser with support for HTTPS and JavaScript, packaged for Debian. For using in console as GUI (with mouse and keys support), see /usr/share/doc/links2/README.Debian (so you can use as regular non-root user when running in console in GUI mode). Ask me about <links2 settings>. Does not honor the <http_proxy> / <ftp_proxy> environment variables (Debian bugs #55425, #93359). http://links.twibright.com/ |
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| 05:04.41 | portn0k | hrm |
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| 05:05.01 | rares | and if Senator Rockefscker pushes his cyberterrorism bill further i'm going back to gopher |
| 05:05.22 | xeon-enouf | Congresscritters, heh |
| 05:05.25 | rares | where every time you want to read xkcd you have to click 6 or 7 times |
| 05:05.41 | superjoe | hey this isn't too bad |
| 05:05.43 | rares | no just congressfamiliesfromtheloinsofasshats |
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| 05:06.58 | portn0k | baw shit |
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| 05:09.26 | portn0k | this is bad |
| 05:09.59 | portn0k | im using a pile of hardware for the windows 2003 server i just burnt.. i have no clue of the make/model, and it looks like it has a boat load of missing drivers |
| 05:10.13 | portn0k | this is becoming quite a hassle |
| 05:12.46 | xeon-enouf | portn0k: ask ##windows ;-) |
| 05:13.03 | xeon-enouf | portn0k: and .. get your money back! :-P |
| 05:14.39 | portn0k | pfft |
| 05:14.43 | portn0k | money heh |
| 05:15.47 | portn0k | portn0k@insight:~$ ls torrents/ | grep dows |
| 05:15.47 | portn0k | Windows.Server.2003.3.in1.Corporate |
| 05:15.47 | portn0k | Windows XP Home SP2 [OEM Edition] |
| 05:16.00 | `nes | lol |
| 05:16.20 | portn0k | `nes, 8-) |
| 05:17.48 | superjoe | I don't think we promote piracy here |
| 05:18.25 | sfire||mouse | we do promote making copies of debian install discs :) |
| 05:18.26 | `nes | It's a backup torrent, isn't it? ;) |
| 05:18.34 | portn0k | who said you did!? |
| 05:18.40 | portn0k | `nes, exactly heh |
| 05:18.44 | portn0k | i uhh.. |
| 05:18.50 | portn0k | typo'd the name of my backup folder |
| 05:18.56 | portn0k | finger slipped etc |
| 05:18.58 | H2S04 | superjoe: that's right, just pornography. |
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| 05:19.52 | portn0k | im actually just using it to develop a windows equivilant of a *n?x rootkit |
| 05:20.23 | portn0k | a lot of people say this: but it actually *is* for learning purposes |
| 05:20.33 | portn0k | just thought it'd be a neat C project |
| 05:20.40 | superjoe | ok nobody is asking for excuses |
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| 05:22.47 | portn0k | just trying to pass the time is all |
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| 05:24.14 | superjoe | there's always hedgewars for that |
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| 05:24.44 | portn0k | come again? |
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| 05:37.57 | xeon-enouf | rares: for just viewing jpegs/pngs etc stored on HDD try 'gliv' |
| 05:38.18 | Supaplex | learn the matrix. no program needed. ;) |
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| 05:38.58 | luke3321 | Supaplex: The Matrix is hard to learn, trust me |
| 05:39.03 | luke3321 | Took me 60 years |
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| 05:39.54 | k]t | :this just got interesting... |
| 05:40.00 | xeon-enouf | only took neo 1 pill :-P |
| 05:40.11 | sfire||mouse | has a blue matrix |
| 05:40.12 | luke3321 | yeah, but I'm not that cool |
| 05:40.26 | xeon-enouf | luke3321: what .. no cape? :-) |
| 05:40.28 | sfire||mouse | now if only dmv.ca.us would give me BLUPILL |
| 05:40.33 | Supaplex | de'yahm. i should go read my spam, just in case. |
| 05:41.01 | luke3321 | haha, gotta pay the dmv extra for the bluepill |
| 05:41.04 | k]t | luke3321: so you know of a matrix algorithm? |
| 05:41.19 | luke3321 | know of, wrote |
| 05:41.27 | luke3321 | I am the creator |
| 05:41.46 | luke3321 | fuck |
| 05:41.55 | luke3321 | s/creator/architect/ |
| 05:42.00 | k]t | excellent -- where do i sign up? |
| 05:42.11 | luke3321 | www.penisland.com |
| 05:42.12 | Supaplex | man apt-get hahahahaaa |
| 05:42.23 | luke3321 | p.s. don;t click that |
| 05:42.33 | luke3321 | good chance its a porn site... |
| 05:42.53 | sfire||mouse | its pen island I think |
| 05:43.01 | sfire||mouse | nope |
| 05:43.07 | luke3321 | you click it? |
| 05:43.09 | sfire||mouse | yes |
| 05:43.13 | luke3321 | and? |
| 05:43.15 | k]t | -- yea, i was leaning moore towards pen-island |
| 05:43.19 | sfire||mouse | porn ads |
| 05:43.22 | luke3321 | mhm |
| 05:43.24 | Supaplex | ahh, that's nothing. freshmeat.net is worse. |
| 05:43.25 | luke3321 | figured |
| 05:43.25 | k]t | more* |
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| 05:43.57 | sfire||mouse | now http://www.penisland.net/ is safe to view |
| 05:43.59 | xeon-enouf | i used to like nicetits.com |
| 05:44.01 | k]t | penisland.net |
| 05:44.14 | xeon-enouf | it's no longer up though - so no tits up |
| 05:44.36 | xeon-enouf | (site was about some european bird, heh) |
| 05:45.00 | k]t | penisland.org too |
| 05:45.50 | luke3321 | goatse.cx that totally safe! |
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| 05:45.56 | luke3321 | looks around innocently |
| 05:46.43 | k]t | lmfao |
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| 05:48.36 | k]t | :is goatse like a homosexual thing? |
| 05:48.47 | atirjavid | luke3321, k]t behave. |
| 05:49.02 | k]t | =X |
| 05:49.03 | atirjavid | !ot |
| 05:49.04 | dpkg | Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e. Debian support); imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
| 05:49.18 | luke3321 | atirjavid: Alright, sorry ;) |
| 05:52.46 | luke3321 | Anyone have xchat in testing available? |
| 05:53.39 | superjoe | using it now |
| 05:54.20 | luke3321 | could you go to XChat -> Network List and tell me what the text of your connect button says? |
| 05:54.38 | superjoe | C_onnect |
| 05:54.45 | superjoe | the underscore is not below the o as it should be |
| 05:54.49 | luke3321 | mhm |
| 05:54.54 | superjoe | it's very annoying |
| 05:55.02 | superjoe | I've seen this in a few other apps as well |
| 05:55.11 | luke3321 | thats why i asked, wanted to make sure it wasnt just me |
| 05:55.17 | luke3321 | what other apps have you seen it in? |
| 05:55.22 | superjoe | trying to remember |
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| 05:56.07 | superjoe | I don't recall |
| 05:56.16 | luke3321 | ah well |
| 05:56.26 | luke3321 | is the bts aware of this? |
| 05:56.33 | luke3321 | in any package |
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| 05:58.17 | superjoe | I haven't reported it |
| 05:58.46 | dzup | hello, some body use sudo? i need the default ls -al sudo ??? |
| 05:58.57 | luke3321 | me either, I also havn't seen anything of it... If I wasnt so lazy I would go and report it right now |
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| 06:01.18 | luke3321 | dzup: what is it you need? |
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| 06:02.31 | dzup | luke3321: problem solve thanks anyways |
| 06:02.37 | luke3321 | ah, alright |
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| 06:12.20 | simonrvn | dzup: yes, it's setuid root:root |
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| 06:15.18 | dzup | simonrvn: thanks |
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| 06:21.54 | swell | does anyone know if debian upgraded the pidgin package? |
| 06:23.18 | sfire||mouse | swell: which version of debian, compared to which verision of debial |
| 06:23.20 | sfire||mouse | debian |
| 06:23.30 | stew | swell: http://packages.qa.debian.org/pidgin would give you the history of the package in the NEWS section |
| 06:23.41 | superjoe | it just got updated in squeeze |
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| 06:25.57 | unixSnob | Does debootstrap install texlive? |
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| 06:26.47 | NoCode | How hard is it to setup a wacom bamboo fun in lenny? |
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| 06:27.04 | xeon-enouf | unixSnob: probably not, why? |
| 06:28.02 | unixSnob | well I used debootstrap to create a 32bit chroot, and then tried to install Maemo sdk+. The SDK failed to install because of a texlive conflict |
| 06:28.24 | unixSnob | i need to analyze it more... but i get the impression texlive was there before the sdk installed |
| 06:28.47 | xeon-enouf | unixSnob: it's not marked as any of priority 'standard|important|required' |
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| 06:29.30 | unixSnob | okay.. then maybe there's a conflict on a underlying dependency |
| 06:29.34 | xeon-enouf | unixSnob: here; dpkg-query -W -f='${Priority} \t${Package} \t${Status} \n' | egrep -i 'standard|important|required' | sort -n | less |
| 06:29.44 | unixSnob | thanks |
| 06:30.01 | xeon-enouf | or .. use apt-cache {r}depends .. |
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| 06:33.14 | xeon-enouf | apt-cache show libzlui-maemo maemo-af-desktop-l10n-engb maemo-af-desktop-l10n-english | grep -i conflict doesn't show much about TeX :-) |
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| 06:35.48 | unixSnob | i'm not even sure if apt-* tools are in play at this point, because the sdk installation is kicked off by running "maemo-sdk install tools etch-2008" (after using aptitude to install maemo-sdk) |
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| 06:36.38 | unixSnob | hmm.. maybe my problem is with the etch-2008. I'm running this in a sid 32bit chroot |
| 06:36.51 | unixSnob | which i think means etch is out of the picture |
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| 06:40.43 | unixSnob | is "sid" compatible with etch? do they name the same thing? |
| 06:41.25 | unixSnob | i'm in this sid environment, and have to choose between installing etch tools, or lenny tools |
| 06:41.45 | unixSnob | do i need to look for sid tools? |
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| 06:44.14 | unixSnob | sid doesn't even appear in the index of releases |
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| 06:48.47 | unixSnob | i think i have it figured out.. I need to destroy my sid root, and create a lenny root |
| 06:53.13 | xeon-enouf | btavo |
| 06:53.19 | xeon-enouf | bravo even |
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| 06:57.49 | tawan | please slap me in the face with a !dpkg -- Why would apt-get show 2 updates that aptitude does not (if I have only every used aptitude?) |
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| 06:59.27 | NoCode | anyone know how to configure a wacom tablet? |
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| 07:04.34 | tawan | NoCode, is it connected to USB? |
| 07:04.58 | Al3x4ndr3_G0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:04.59 | Al3x4ndr3_G0 | bugga:~# ping ftp.de.debian.org |
| 07:04.59 | Al3x4ndr3_G0 | ping: unknown host ftp.de.debian.org |
| 07:05.27 | Al3x4ndr3_G0 | how do I fix this? |
| 07:05.35 | NoCode | USB yes. I found a tutorial |
| 07:05.44 | xeon-enouf | tawan: might have something to do with aptitude's safe-upgrade/full-upgrade diffs ? |
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| 07:06.02 | tawan | xeon-enouf, ok could be as i used --safe-upgrade |
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| 07:06.17 | unixSnob | Al3x4ndr3_G0: try pinging 141.76.2.4 instead |
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| 07:06.34 | Al3x4ndr3_G0 | bugga:~# ping 141.76.2.4 |
| 07:06.35 | Al3x4ndr3_G0 | PING 141.76.2.4 (141.76.2.4) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 07:06.35 | Al3x4ndr3_G0 | 64 bytes from 141.76.2.4: icmp_seq=1 ttl=51 time=113 ms |
| 07:06.46 | xeon-enouf | Al3x4ndr3_G0: you have DNS issues |
| 07:07.02 | Al3x4ndr3_G0 | yes |
| 07:07.06 | xeon-enouf | Al3x4ndr3_G0: /msg dpkg resolv.conf (for startes) |
| 07:07.13 | Al3x4ndr3_G0 | |
| 07:07.13 | Al3x4ndr3_G0 | how do I fix this |
| 07:07.47 | Al3x4ndr3_G0 | [04:07:24] <dpkg> i heard resolv.conf is /etc/resolv.conf, resolver configuration file that contains your nameserver IPs. It's written by your DHCP client. To use different nameservers than those provided by DHCP, ask me about <override dns>. See also <fixresolvconf>. |
| 07:07.56 | xeon-enouf | Al3x4ndr3_G0: please stop pasting much into channel - 1-2 lines is ok ... on occassion - otjherwise use a pastebin please |
| 07:08.00 | Al3x4ndr3_G0 | bugga:~# cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 07:08.01 | Al3x4ndr3_G0 | cat: /etc/resolv.conf: No such file or directory |
| 07:08.15 | unixSnob | Al3x4ndr3_G0: the knee-jerk answer is to use your routers IP address as the dns.. that usually works |
| 07:08.17 | xeon-enouf | Al3x4ndr3_G0: we don't need play-by-play :-P |
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| 07:09.20 | unixSnob | Al3x4ndr3_G0: try configuring it with the GUI... click desktop/administration/networking |
| 07:09.36 | Al3x4ndr3_G0 | ssh shell |
| 07:09.39 | unixSnob | Al3x4ndr3_G0: then look for the DNS tab |
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| 07:10.02 | Al3x4ndr3_G0 | remote server |
| 07:10.50 | unixSnob | well, i'm not sure where debian keeps the DNS info. I believe the resolv.conf gets trumped |
| 07:11.10 | unixSnob | the resolv.conf is probably auto-generated |
| 07:11.57 | unixSnob | check out /etc/network/interfaces |
| 07:12.01 | Al3x4ndr3_G0 | |
| 07:12.02 | Al3x4ndr3_G0 | Wed where is the aquivo mirror apt-get |
| 07:12.50 | tawan | xeon-enouf, was to do with safe-upgrade, thanks :) |
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| 07:13.04 | WormFood | When Charlie Sheen was being sentenced for using a prostitute, the judge asked him why a man like him would have to pay for sex. And Sheen reportedly replied: âI donât pay them for sex. I pay them to leave.â |
| 07:13.05 | Al3x4ndr3_G0 | Wed where is the aquivo mirror apt-get? |
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| 07:14.43 | Al3x4ndr3_G0 | Wed where is the file mirror apt-get |
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| 07:16.31 | WormFood | look in /etc/resolvconf |
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| 07:16.55 | WormFood | at least, that is what sid uses for dns related stuff and autoconfiguring...if you want to edit resolv.conf, you do it from there |
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| 07:17.16 | NoCode | There's no section of "serverlayout" in xorg. Can I create one? |
| 07:17.28 | simonrvn | of course |
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| 07:20.40 | unixSnob | WormFood: /etc/network/interfaces has the attribute "dns-servers", so it probably trumps the resolve.conf file |
| 07:21.11 | xeon-enouf | mine doesn't |
| 07:21.20 | WormFood | what branch? |
| 07:21.28 | WormFood | I'm running sid...don't know about stable |
| 07:21.36 | xeon-enouf | it never did |
| 07:21.42 | unixSnob | i'm running etch |
| 07:21.49 | xeon-enouf | unless you add it |
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| 07:22.39 | unixSnob | i mistyped it... it's "dns-nameservers".. an attribute of an iface record |
| 07:23.23 | unixSnob | maybe resolve.conf is left alone if the attribute isn't used |
| 07:23.43 | NoCode | damn it. There's no kernel module for my kernel. :( |
| 07:23.50 | NoCode | err |
| 07:23.56 | NoCode | wacom module |
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| 07:27.16 | unixSnob | there's a "resolvconf" package. If it's installed, then the dns-* attributes in /etc/network/interfaces become active. Otherwise resolv.conf probably does not get trumped |
| 07:27.59 | ultralazer | is there a way to automount a usb flash drive from a shell? |
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| 07:31.31 | lumis | !dpkg tell ultralazer about usbmount |
| 07:31.40 | ultralazer | no i mean a command |
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| 07:32.34 | unixSnob | the purpose of automount is to act without a command |
| 07:32.34 | xeon-enouf | unixSnob: yeah, that package has been known to cause issues |
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| 07:32.51 | xeon-enouf | unixSnob: (resolvconf that is) |
| 07:33.19 | macrobat | ultralazer: if you have to type a cmd to mount it, would that be automatic? |
| 07:33.20 | unixSnob | xeon-enouf: thanks for the tip.. I was just wondering whether I should install it |
| 07:33.33 | ultralazer | macrobat well no. |
| 07:33.34 | xeon-enouf | unixSnob: /msg dpkg automount - but yeah, from shell isn't automounting, is it :-P |
| 07:33.57 | xeon-enouf | er ultralazer |
| 07:34.02 | xeon-enouf | unixSnob: bad tab |
| 07:34.08 | Dassu | Anybody here using latest version of vuze on testing ? |
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| 07:34.15 | ultralazer | xeon-enouf yeah? |
| 07:34.26 | Dassu | My system basically freezes if my download speed is over 6MB/s |
| 07:34.41 | xeon-enouf | 100mbit line? :-P |
| 07:34.48 | Dassu | xeon-enouf: 1Gbit but shared :/ |
| 07:35.01 | xeon-enouf | nice |
| 07:35.11 | xeon-enouf | grab me some movies :-P |
| 07:35.19 | xeon-enouf | is just kidding |
| 07:36.41 | xeon-enouf | unixSnob: not sure if this applies as far back as etch, but i've used dhcpcd-bin for awhile there (ps auxf | grep dhcp) |
| 07:37.18 | mhymn | Dassu: did you try running it from cli and see the outputs or perhaps errors? |
| 07:37.34 | Dassu | mhymn: I checked the logs and couldn't find anything |
| 07:37.49 | xeon-enouf | Dassu: try ntop perhaps? watch top/htop ? |
| 07:38.18 | Dassu | is on his way |
| 07:38.18 | Dassu | mhymn: wait |
| 07:38.18 | Dassu | Yes i actually did |
| 07:38.18 | Dassu | nothing |
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| 07:38.33 | xeon-enouf | 8MB/sec is approaching 10/100Base-T limits no? |
| 07:38.56 | dkay | hello, someone knows how to add an domain via ssh? |
| 07:38.57 | Dassu | xeon-enouf: Don't see why that would freez my system |
| 07:39.00 | xeon-enouf | Dassu: : does ethtool show you using Full Duplex? |
| 07:39.32 | xeon-enouf | Dassu: might be a disk write bottleneck? where are you d/l to? |
| 07:39.53 | H2S04 | Hm |
| 07:40.11 | xeon-enouf | dkay: you mean a valid Host? |
| 07:40.33 | Dassu | xeon-enouf: I have donwloaded files with apt-get at much higher speeds |
| 07:40.34 | unixSnob | xeon-enouf: thanks.. but i just decided not to mess with stuff that works.. I have enough broken things to work on at the moment |
| 07:40.36 | dkay | ahm, yes, maybe. it has to be an virtual host cause i own 3 domains |
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| 07:40.42 | xeon-enouf | Dassu: are you using swap? |
| 07:40.43 | Dassu | xeon-enouf: So I think this is vuze related |
| 07:40.47 | xeon-enouf | oh |
| 07:40.47 | Dassu | xeon-enouf: yep |
| 07:40.53 | xeon-enouf | never heard of vuze |
| 07:41.05 | xeon-enouf | Dassu: swap == no bueno :-P |
| 07:41.27 | xeon-enouf | dkay: well .. VirtualHost as in Apache? |
| 07:41.40 | unixSnob | vuze is a azeurus renamed |
| 07:41.54 | xeon-enouf | dkay: your ~/.ssh/config |
| 07:41.55 | xeon-enouf | ewww |
| 07:42.01 | xeon-enouf | !javasmite someone |
| 07:42.04 | pif | hi, got a problem with libpam-ssh and xdm, anyone using it? |
| 07:42.05 | Dassu | xeon-enouf: Vuze = azureus |
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| 07:42.33 | unixSnob | Real Men (tm) use rtorrent |
| 07:42.54 | dkay | xeon-enouf: what to do? |
| 07:43.35 | Dassu | unixSnob: Azureus+patch supports ordered pieces download. That isn't included in rtorrent and propably never will because it isn't efficient for a swarm |
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| 07:44.16 | xeon-enouf | dkay: not sure .. also, depends |
| 07:44.16 | Dassu | unixSnob: but rtorrent is definitely great |
| 07:44.42 | unixSnob | Dassu: rtorrent lets you prioritize and disable file within the torrent.. isn't that the same thing? |
| 07:44.53 | unixSnob | Dassu: or are you talking pieces of files? |
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| 07:45.03 | dkay | i have googled for tutorials but i havent found anything related. |
| 07:45.09 | dkay | on what depends it? |
| 07:45.15 | dkay | i am using apache2 and mysql |
| 07:45.35 | dkay | and no panel like syscp or plesk or smoething |
| 07:46.10 | Dassu | unixSnob: ordered pieces download is simply downloading first pieces in file first instead of randomly choosin them |
| 07:46.46 | xeon-enouf | dkay: i'm not sure, maybe ##networking can help - or ##linux |
| 07:46.53 | unixSnob | Dassu: i'm not sure how that's useful. I wouldn't want more resolution than file selection |
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| 07:47.14 | unixSnob | Dassu: unless... it's a movie and I want to verify the quality first.. I guess that would be useful |
| 07:47.21 | Dassu | unixSnob: it is useful if you want to play video before all of the data has been downloaded |
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| 07:47.31 | xeon-enouf | dkay: also ; httpd.apache.org and google linux apache2 VirtualHost |
| 07:47.40 | xeon-enouf | add debian if you like |
| 07:48.26 | xeon-enouf | Dassu: streaming pr0n? :-) |
| 07:48.59 | xeon-enouf | Dassu: but isn't vuze basically java-based? if so, check into that |
| 07:49.33 | xeon-enouf | Dassu: on debian; update-java-alternatives perhaps, if you install various java shit |
| 07:50.03 | Dassu | xeon-enouf: hmm, what does that do ? O_o |
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| 07:51.32 | xeon-enouf | Dassu: no idea - java will never get anywhere near my boxen :-) |
| 07:52.01 | xeon-enouf | Dassu: if you know about the |
| 07:52.16 | xeon-enouf | Dassu: if you know about the "update-alternatives" suybsystem, you'll get it |
| 07:56.38 | negge | when using screen, is there some command I can run to know which pts I'm currently using? |
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| 07:56.51 | H2S04 | Hmm |
| 07:57.06 | cahoot | tty? |
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| 07:58.30 | neutrinomass | Hello. I'm trying to package a library for debian and the original source is completely devoid of documentation (even readme/install/etc. files). I will write the manpage myself but I was wondering whether the readme/install files are required as well (policy manual doesn't explicitly state anything either way). |
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| 07:59.18 | negge | cahoot: thanks |
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| 08:00.04 | negge | somehow there was a user logged in from some ovh.net address on my server... I killed the pts process, removed the user and checked it's bash_history but found nothing... Really weird. The login was just 5 minutes ago |
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| 08:01.35 | _KaszpiR_ | bash history was not saved |
| 08:05.42 | simonrvn | negge: um, i'd shut it down and audit that thing, if that wasn't a legit log in ... |
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| 08:08.11 | negge | simonrvn: I don't know... |
| 08:08.29 | ultralazer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:09.53 | xeon-enouf | neutrinomass: i'd ask in #debian-mentors perhaps, and see /msg dpkg nmg |
| 08:10.15 | neutrinomass | xeon-enouf: ok, thank you, I wasn't sure if this was the right channel |
| 08:10.20 | xeon-enouf | neutrinomass: or even #debian-devel on oftc maybe |
| 08:10.49 | xeon-enouf | neutrinomass: i'm not sure either, some DDs hang around here, so if you catch the right person ... |
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| 08:12.12 | neutrinomass | xeon-enouf: Ok thanks, I'll try - mentors |
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| 08:13.33 | Remmy | Hi all, after getting a new kernel package, do I need to perform any steps before rebooting? |
| 08:13.57 | xeon-enouf | Remmy: if installation went well, no |
| 08:14.14 | Remmy | so, grub / lilo will be ok? |
| 08:14.15 | xeon-enouf | Remmy: update-grub ran; mkinitramfs-kpkg ran, etx |
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| 08:15.02 | xeon-enouf | Remmy: i think lilo needs a rerun |
| 08:15.13 | xeon-enouf | Remmy: IOW, you must run LiLo if you use that |
| 08:15.20 | Remmy | xeon-enouf, that's all done by the package installation, or I need to do it manually? |
| 08:15.29 | xeon-enouf | Remmy: and .. i hope you kept a known working kernel ;-) |
| 08:15.43 | xeon-enouf | Remmy: grub yes, LiLo no |
| 08:16.01 | xeon-enouf | Remmy: unless, ... something you did to /etc/kernel-img.conf ... |
| 08:16.07 | Remmy | xeon-enouf, just that this is a remote machine and it has been up and running for 844 days |
| 08:16.24 | Remmy | so I'm a little nervous about it :) |
| 08:16.28 | xeon-enouf | Remmy: um ... how far of versions are you running? |
| 08:16.43 | xeon-enouf | i'd be - and i'd upgrade more than the kernel |
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| 08:16.54 | nekostar | sup sup sup sup |
| 08:16.55 | xeon-enouf | !listkeys dsa15 |
| 08:16.57 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'dsa15' by key (3): dsa1571 ;; dsa1571 jokes ;; dsa1576. |
| 08:17.04 | Remmy | Ya, I have upgraded to lenny in the mean time, but without a reboot |
| 08:17.06 | xeon-enouf | !dsa1571 |
| 08:17.07 | dpkg | Due to a weakness in a random number generator, keys generated after 2006-09-17 (using openssl 0.9.8c-1 and later) need to be regenerated with a newer openssl (at least 0.9.8c-4etch3). See http://www.debian.org/security/2008/dsa-1571 http://wiki.debian.org/SSLkeys Updated openssh packages that check for weak keys are also now available. Ask me about <ssl update><dsa1576><ssh-vulnkey><dsa1571 jokes> |
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| 08:18.00 | Remmy | I believe I've tackled that |
| 08:18.06 | nekostar | yeah that was a farked bug |
| 08:18.29 | nekostar | Remmy: you upgraded from blah to lenny w/o reboot |
| 08:18.32 | nekostar | so... |
| 08:18.46 | nekostar | did you upgrade kernel? if so id love to know how to load and purge kernels without restarting |
| 08:18.49 | nekostar | that could be useful |
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| 08:19.00 | Remmy | No... the kernel is still 2.6.18 |
| 08:19.26 | pif | why do I have this in my processes: "/usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/ck-launch-session etc." |
| 08:19.29 | Remmy | Kernel was last compiled 844 days ago |
| 08:19.31 | xeon-enouf | nekostar: kexec allows some form of that, FWIW ;-) |
| 08:19.31 | Remmy | lol |
| 08:19.51 | xeon-enouf | 2007ish |
| 08:19.58 | pif | why does ssh-agent launch ck-launch-session ? |
| 08:20.10 | Remmy | Thanks for the help xeon-enouf, I'll say a prayer now and issue the reboot command, lol |
| 08:20.12 | xeon-enouf | pif: consolekit heh |
| 08:20.22 | xeon-enouf | Remmy: wait you might |
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| 08:20.49 | pif | xeon-enouf: yes, but on another box with consolekit I only have "ssh-agent -s" |
| 08:21.07 | pif | and I can't find out why |
| 08:21.10 | xeon-enouf | Remmy: you might want to setup a panic=NN (seconds) command in your kernel line and if grub, see docs for fallover/failsafe or whatever it is |
| 08:21.49 | xeon-enouf | pif: well, ck is supposed to be X-related, and ssh-agent is |
| 08:21.52 | Remmy | xeon-enouf, I got no errors during the package install... If it fails, I'll open a ticket with ISP to look into it |
| 08:21.55 | Remmy | Thank you :) |
| 08:21.59 | xeon-enouf | ;-) |
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| 08:22.39 | xeon-enouf | pif: compare pstree -lunap outputs perhaps |
| 08:22.52 | Remmy | I guess it'll do a fsck on startup, so this may test my patience some |
| 08:22.52 | superjoe | I think clock() is misbehaving |
| 08:22.56 | xeon-enouf | pif: different releases / versions ? |
| 08:23.03 | pif | no both sid |
| 08:23.06 | superjoe | in squeeze |
| 08:23.10 | superjoe | on intel |
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| 08:23.27 | xeon-enouf | Remmy: heh - not too much all at once! :-) |
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| 08:24.03 | xeon-enouf | Remmy: /msg dpkg forcefsck (if you're not already aware) |
| 08:24.11 | Remmy | xeon-enouf, if this works, I have three more boxes to do |
| 08:24.16 | Remmy | thanks |
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| 08:25.21 | Remmy | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:25.28 | Remmy | Looks like we're back xeon :) |
| 08:25.38 | xeon-enouf | !congratulate Remmy |
| 08:25.38 | dpkg | Nice one Remmy, you did it! |
| 08:26.25 | larrikin | how is the keyboard device detected under the new console-setup / hal suite .. I have additional /dev/input/event's that I need to reserve for lirc, I've managed to get hal to ignore them, but I still see them being treated as a keyboard and attached to the local console... |
| 08:26.26 | Remmy | lol, thanks |
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| 08:26.57 | xeon-enouf | larrikin: maybe policy-kit? |
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| 08:27.09 | larrikin | okay I'll have a look |
| 08:27.12 | larrikin | tnx |
| 08:27.34 | xeon-enouf | larrikin: no hyphen ; policykit |
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| 08:28.02 | xeon-enouf | $ apt-cache search policykit |
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| 08:28.26 | xeon-enouf | larrikin: and look into whatever consolekit is doing |
| 08:28.43 | larrikin | yes, I have it.. now just to figure out how it works.. |
| 08:29.09 | xeon-enouf | $ cat /proc/bus/input/devices ? |
| 08:29.13 | xeon-enouf | heh |
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| 08:30.32 | xeon-enouf | $ lshal | grep input/event |
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| 08:33.08 | larrikin | yeah, I have hal under control,.. I'm just trying to understand if having a remote control device cause characters to be echoed on /dev/tty is normal .. |
| 08:33.37 | larrikin | as usual, everything worked prior to upgrade .. ;) |
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| 08:35.19 | superjoe | I have a glut application in which CLOCKS_PER_SEC is 1,000,000, but really clock() only goes up by 10,000 every second |
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| 08:38.06 | xeon-enouf | superjoe: what is your system using for timer source? |
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| 08:38.42 | superjoe | xeon-enouf: I don't know, but I suspect it has something to do with libgl1-mesa-dri, which I no longer have installed |
| 08:39.20 | superjoe | if I write a simple test C program, it works as expected, but when I write a simple test glut program, the above inconsistency happens |
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| 08:40.34 | xeon-enouf | superjoe: no idea, sorry |
| 08:40.45 | superjoe | thanks anyways |
| 08:41.01 | superjoe | do you know how to check what your system uses for a timer source? |
| 08:41.03 | xeon-enouf | np |
| 08:41.08 | xeon-enouf | superjoe: dmesg |
| 08:41.26 | xeon-enouf | either PIC, or hpet or ... |
| 08:41.50 | superjoe | HPET: 3 timers in total, 0 timers will be used for per-cpu timer |
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| 08:42.22 | negge | help me out guys, all numpad keys on my keyboard has suddenly stopped working |
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| 08:43.00 | negge | except the Enter key |
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| 08:43.26 | negge | and for some reason the + key marks the whole word. It's like some mappings have automagically become screwn up |
| 08:43.52 | xeon-enouf | negge: try Shift+Numlock |
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| 08:44.29 | xeon-enouf | negge: in the state it's in now, do the arrow keys on NumKeys move mouse cursor? |
| 08:44.52 | negge | xeon-enouf: yeah I googled a bit and it seems like Alt+Shift+Numlock did the trick!? |
| 08:45.09 | xeon-enouf | ahh .. a craptop :-P |
| 08:45.14 | nekostar | lol |
| 08:45.21 | negge | xeon-enouf: no it's all working fine |
| 08:45.26 | negge | xeon-enouf: craptop? :D |
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| 08:45.31 | xeon-enouf | they have Numpads? must be a big one :-P |
| 08:45.40 | nekostar | xeon-enouf: there's gonna be a great market for quad-core 2ghz arm chips one day |
| 08:45.53 | nekostar | and they'll run teh compiz wonderfully i'm sure |
| 08:45.59 | negge | xeon-enouf: I never said it was a laptop |
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| 08:47.38 | superjoe | I wonder how soon xserver-xorg-core 1.5 is coming to squeeze |
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| 08:49.30 | tawan | If I have always done aptitude updates and then I do a "mark all upgrades" in synaptic.. is that going to confuse anything? |
| 08:51.34 | tawan | soon find out.. |
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| 08:55.34 | xeon-enouf | negge: oh, i confused your alt with Fn .. nm ;-) but the Alt was required too? |
| 08:56.20 | xeon-enouf | superjoe: follow the debian-x mail list |
| 08:57.09 | xeon-enouf | superjoe: atleast, that'll show you sid/exper entries - then it migrates to squeeze if no major issues are found |
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| 08:59.53 | unixSnob | i have a folder that is /not/ mounted, but when i try to remove it, I get "device or resource busy". how is that possible? I've tried rebooting |
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| 09:00.23 | unixSnob | the folder /var/chroot/sid-ia32/home is empty, and there is no fstab entry for it either |
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| 09:00.55 | unixSnob | /var/chroot/sid-ia32/proc has the same problem |
| 09:01.07 | jelly-home | superjoe: it's 1.6 by now :-) |
| 09:01.25 | jelly-home | judd: versions xserver-xorg-core |
| 09:01.26 | judd | jelly-home: xserver-xorg-core -- etch: 2:1.1.1-21etch5 etch-security: 2:1.1.1-21etch5 lenny: 2:1.4.2-10.lenny1 squeeze: 2:1.4.2-11 sid: 2:1.6.3-1+b1 |
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| 09:02.27 | superjoe | xeon-enouf: how do you like using the sid repository? |
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| 09:02.48 | xeon-enouf | superjoe: i'm running sid, so i guess i like it ok :-) |
| 09:02.55 | superjoe | how long have you been running it? |
| 09:03.03 | xeon-enouf | years now |
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| 09:03.18 | superjoe | hmm |
| 09:03.37 | xeon-enouf | superjoe: but i very selectively upgrade - but i also try to report bugs if i find them |
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| 09:03.47 | superjoe | you're a good citizen |
| 09:04.20 | xeon-enouf | superjoe: so, after a year or so, i could easily need to upgrade hundreds of pkgs |
| 09:04.38 | superjoe | I see |
| 09:04.49 | jelly-home | superjoe: I'm using squeeze, but tracking relevant xorg bits for intel from sid or experimental, because the one in testing is somewhat lacking. |
| 09:04.57 | xeon-enouf | superjoe: the thing about sid is; you should know debian well, so you can get out of jams yourself and workaround issues as needed .. on the fly |
| 09:05.11 | superjoe | jelly-home: yeah - I made the mistake of upgrading too soon |
| 09:05.25 | superjoe | err wait I misread |
| 09:05.28 | superjoe | I should do what you are doing |
| 09:05.37 | jelly-home | !pinning |
| 09:05.37 | dpkg | Pinning is a method to choose which version of a package to install when multiple versions are available from sources.list. man apt_preferences, http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning Bugs are explained at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/debian.html#errata If you use stable, pinning won't help you from messing up the system... use <backports> instead. |
| 09:06.37 | xeon-enouf | jelly-home: is pinning even needed if one has their Default-Release set in apt.conf? |
| 09:06.50 | xeon-enouf | jelly-home: then just use --target releasename |
| 09:07.11 | jelly-home | xeon-enouf: I don't user that and have no idea how it interacts with pinning |
| 09:07.27 | jelly-home | pinning usually interracts badly with anything anyway |
| 09:08.10 | xeon-enouf | jelly-home: well, as i described is how i pull from exper .. and apt-cache policy shows exper at 1 and others (all sid) at 500 or 990 |
| 09:08.40 | jelly-home | superjoe: I have xserver-xorg-core, libgl1-mesa-dri, and xserver-xorg-video-intel pinned so that any newest version from (testing or sid or exp.) becomes a candidate for installation |
| 09:09.16 | superjoe | I'm about to do the same thing |
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| 09:09.42 | jelly-home | xeon-enouf: they're all pinned to 900 for me |
| 09:10.30 | jelly-home | superjoe: read the topic in #debian-x (irc.debian.org), keyboard + mouse might break if you're unlucky |
| 09:10.46 | superjoe | uh oh |
| 09:10.55 | jelly-home | and Ctrl+Alt+Backspace _will_ break |
| 09:11.04 | superjoe | that's okay I have that disabled |
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| 09:11.14 | jelly-home | oh, you're one of those |
| 09:11.21 | superjoe | you have it enabled? |
| 09:11.23 | jelly-home | superjoe: that's the new default anyway |
| 09:11.33 | jelly-home | superjoe: no, but I like it enabled |
| 09:11.43 | superjoe | it's too easy to accidentally kill your session |
| 09:12.00 | jelly-home | not really |
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| 09:12.14 | superjoe | yeah I think I was trying to figure out what the gimp shortcut was for filling in a selection with color |
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| 09:12.18 | nsadmin | he's one of those average joes you see going into places where you see the guy standing outside with a sign saying "eat at joe's" |
| 09:12.29 | superjoe | some combination of alt, shift, and backspace |
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| 09:12.39 | jelly-home | is not a gimp user |
| 09:13.01 | nsadmin | do you do any image processing? |
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| 09:13.07 | superjoe | plus, any dweeb can just lean over and hit the combo on your laptop before you have a chance to slap them in the face |
| 09:13.30 | nsadmin | don't allow dweebs near your laptop :P |
| 09:14.14 | superjoe | so you're asking me to solve a complicated social engineering problem rather than a simple software one, eh? |
| 09:14.29 | mhymn | wonders whether someone ever did Ctrl+Alt+Del incidentally |
| 09:14.43 | nsadmin | that's a simple one... I'm working on much harder ones |
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| 09:14.53 | jelly-home | itym accidentally, mhymn |
| 09:15.19 | mhymn | yeah, that too |
| 09:15.27 | nsadmin | mhymn: sure, if youi're running x it doesn't do anything unless it' |
| 09:15.38 | nsadmin | s trapped to that shutdown dialog |
| 09:16.23 | Linux-IRC | it's firefox 3.5.2, can't update to 3.5.3, can't find any option to "check for update" |
| 09:16.36 | nsadmin | I'm not sure that's such a good idea most of the time... there's a reason shutdown can't be run other than by root |
| 09:16.46 | Linux-IRC | it's firefox 3.5.2, can't update to 3.5.3, can't find any option to "check for update" , how to update firefox? |
| 09:16.48 | nsadmin | having said that, I do find it convenient |
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| 09:17.26 | superjoe | Linux-IRC: nice nickname. you should be using iceweasel from the repository |
| 09:17.27 | jelly-home | Linux-IRC: proper firefox or Debian's iceweasel? |
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| 09:18.01 | nsadmin | debian can't distribute "proper firefox" |
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| 09:18.36 | Linux-IRC | superjoe: jelly-home: downloaded firefox from the firefox-official site, original firefox, removed iceweasel with this "sudo aptitude remove iceweasel" |
| 09:18.51 | Linux-IRC | !firefox |
| 09:18.51 | superjoe | lol |
| 09:18.51 | dpkg | well, firefox is replaced by iceweasel in Debian. Ask me about <iceweasel> and <why iceweasel>. |
| 09:19.05 | superjoe | I did the same thing when I first installed debian |
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| 09:20.10 | jelly-home | Linux-IRC: if the installated files are writable for your user, updates ought to work |
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| 09:20.53 | jelly-home | mine was upgraded 3.5.2 -> 3.5.3 without many issues |
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| 09:22.09 | jelly-home | Help -> Check for updates is easily found, Linux-IRC |
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| 09:23.12 | superjoe | holy shit I'm about to upgrade a bunch of stuff to unstable |
| 09:23.16 | superjoe | crosses fingers |
| 09:23.22 | thnee | can anyone tell me how to make dropbear do utf-8 properly? when i type 'ä' i get 'ä ' and when i move the cursor things really bug out, showing strange characters, enterpreting everything wrong. |
| 09:23.23 | jelly-home | Linux-IRC: you should ask #firefox about it, this channel is only for stuff present in the distro |
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| 09:23.44 | jelly-home | thnee: that sounds like a shell issue |
| 09:24.26 | jelly-home | thnee: are the locale settings correct and utf-8 enabled at both sides of the ssh connection? |
| 09:24.29 | thnee | jelly-home: it works when i login thru opensshd |
| 09:25.00 | He1kki | kekale: /whois thnee |
| 09:25.03 | He1kki | whops |
| 09:25.06 | thnee | mkay |
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| 09:25.30 | jelly-home | openssh in debian is configured to pass LANG and LC_* env.vars to the other side, thnee |
| 09:25.34 | philth_no2 | I started a process with "at" and I know that this process has some output to STDOUT. I know the PID, is it possible to "pull" this process (or his output) in my current terminal emulator window? |
| 09:25.51 | thnee | jelly-home: mkay? |
| 09:25.54 | He1kki | thnee: Just checking were you from fi-host as you we asking about scandic letters.. =) |
| 09:26.18 | thnee | jelly-home: i dont know what that means at all |
| 09:26.37 | jelly-home | !+tell thnee -about locale |
| 09:26.37 | dpkg | told thnee about locale. |
| 09:26.44 | xingu | philth_no2: tail -f /proc/${pid}/fd/1 |
| 09:27.13 | thnee | i know that |
| 09:27.30 | philth_no2 | xingu, thank you! Tried "fg" but this only works for processes brought to background via "bg". |
| 09:28.39 | jelly-home | thnee: You do? "apropos locale" tells you there's a locale(7) man page, and that one explains what environment variables to configure locale exist |
| 09:28.44 | thnee | jelly-home: you mean from the client to the shell on the server? or what? |
| 09:29.01 | thnee | jelly-home: ok |
| 09:29.13 | jelly-home | thnee: (what, openssh? yes) |
| 09:29.30 | thnee | right |
| 09:29.39 | jelly-home | thnee: just export LANG=whatever.UTF-8 manually on the remote side |
| 09:29.42 | thnee | so youre saying that dropbear needs to set them too? |
| 09:29.51 | thnee | and youre thinking it might not be setting those specific ones now? |
| 09:29.58 | thnee | okay |
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| 09:30.08 | thnee | but i want dropbear to do it |
| 09:30.40 | jelly-home | dropbear is small. You can set up locale in your user shell rc files. |
| 09:31.11 | thnee | ok |
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| 09:32.00 | jelly-home | thnee: or set it up globally for the whole remote machine; all the services are supposed to abide |
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| 09:32.27 | antii | Hello, I got a shellscript that I wanna automatically update like each minute, how can I do it? |
| 09:33.08 | Shachar | antii, you want to update *the shell script*? |
| 09:33.17 | antii | yes |
| 09:33.18 | thnee | jelly-home: it didnt help that i export LANG=se_SV.UTF-8 |
| 09:33.38 | Shachar | what are you trying to achieve? |
| 09:33.40 | philth_no2 | antii, maybe you want to do "clear"? |
| 09:33.47 | at0m | antii: do you mean you want to /run/ the script each minute? |
| 09:34.00 | antii | at0m: exactly |
| 09:34.10 | Shachar | RTFM crontab |
| 09:34.48 | thnee | jelly-home: i mean sv_SE.UTF-8, it didnt help, i can still not type åäö properly |
| 09:35.28 | Shachar | thnee, does "locale -a" list sv_SE.UTF-8"? |
| 09:36.04 | antii | I foudnout how to do |
| 09:36.07 | antii | thx :P |
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| 09:36.39 | thnee | Shachar: it does not |
| 09:36.57 | Shachar | thnee, "dpkg-reconfigure locales" and make sure you mark a checkbox next to it |
| 09:37.03 | Shachar | as root, of course |
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| 09:39.32 | superjoe | hey thanks jelly-home that worked like a charm |
| 09:40.01 | jelly-home | superjoe: you're lucky! |
| 09:40.06 | superjoe | I know :) |
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| 09:41.45 | thnee | Shachar: sorry, im confused, i didnt want swedish, i want en_US.UTF-8, and that is configured and works. the problem is that this isnt set automatically upon login anymore, since i switched to beardrop from opensshd |
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| 09:42.44 | jelly-home | !tell thnee -about locales |
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| 09:43.01 | thnee | but since i am running a minimal system with only this one local installed, i guess it will suffice to set it system wide |
| 09:43.10 | thnee | locale* |
| 09:43.18 | Shachar | thnee, what does "locale" return? The difference between quoted and unquoted is important |
| 09:43.37 | Shachar | is not overly familiar with dropbear |
| 09:44.02 | Shachar | Also, what is your locale on the local system? |
| 09:44.02 | jelly-home | in a minimal system, one only needs 7 bit ascii chars :-> |
| 09:44.23 | Shachar | yeah, and 640KB ought to be enough for everybody |
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| 09:45.12 | thnee | Shachar: a lot, but en_US.UTF-8 (unqouted) as LANG, and quoted on the rest, except LC_ALL which is empty |
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| 09:45.21 | themill | 640KB? luxury! I'm trying to do some work on an embedded chip with 1KB atm.... :( |
| 09:45.29 | thnee | Shachar: but it works now that i export LANG correctly, i just need to make it happen automatically |
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| 09:45.50 | Shachar | then I refer you to "dpkg-reconfigure locales" again |
| 09:45.59 | Shachar | you can set the system wide default through there |
| 09:46.00 | thnee | jesus |
| 09:46.06 | thnee | okay |
| 09:46.35 | Shachar | or edit /etc/default/locale |
| 09:46.48 | jelly-home | (which is the same thing) |
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| 09:47.04 | thnee | but guys |
| 09:47.08 | thnee | i have done this |
| 09:47.11 | Shachar | jelly-home, not exactly. The former also keeps the debconf data |
| 09:47.20 | Shachar | thnee, did you reboot since then? |
| 09:47.25 | jelly-home | it's also quite possible that dropbear doesn't use pam and doesn't read those settings at all |
| 09:47.26 | thnee | but LANG is not set upon login |
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| 09:48.08 | jelly-home | thnee: you're using software for embedded systems... you'll have to learn to deal with settings manually |
| 09:48.16 | thnee | sure |
| 09:48.19 | Shachar | themill, do you run Linux on that thing? |
| 09:48.49 | Shachar | Personally, I don't run Debian on my embedded systems. |
| 09:49.02 | Shachar | I do a LFS variant |
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| 09:49.43 | thnee | jelly-home: but i asked how i can make it happen, and i was told to set it system wide via dpkg-reconfigure locales, but LANG is still not set, so i dont know how to make it happen |
| 09:50.09 | jelly-home | thnee: You can set up locale in your user shell rc files. |
| 09:50.18 | Shachar | thnee, there are two parts here |
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| 09:50.26 | Shachar | one is to make sure the locale is compiled |
| 09:50.33 | Shachar | and the other is to make sure the environment points to it |
| 09:51.02 | Shachar | dpkg-reconfigure does the first, and does the second assuming your login procedure asks the right file (/etc/default/locale) |
| 09:51.02 | xeon-enouf | put it in /etc/environment ? |
| 09:51.13 | Shachar | apparently, dropbear does not |
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| 09:51.27 | dsdeiz | uhm, how do i have links enable javascript? |
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| 09:51.37 | dsdeiz | it does have javascript right? |
| 09:51.52 | xeon-enouf | dsdeiz: links2 does, but minimally |
| 09:51.59 | xeon-enouf | !links2 config |
| 09:52.00 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, links2 settings is You can allocate more RAM + resources to links2, see File > Resource Info (and Memory Info) -- and then Settings > Cache (to set sizes). Then remember to do Settings > Save Options (once you like them) config file is in ~/.links2/links.cfg. Press [ESC] Help > keys to see some key bindings, and http://links.twibright.com/user_en.html for more - use [ESC] to toggle menu bar (or just click that area). |
| 09:52.09 | jelly-home | xeon-enouf: if /etc/default/locale doesn't work, /etc/environment (which is managed by the same pam module) is likely not to work either |
| 09:52.20 | xeon-enouf | jelly-home: yeah .. mine |
| 09:52.26 | xeon-enouf | 's empty |
| 09:52.49 | xeon-enouf | on sid, but on older releases, it wasn't |
| 09:52.58 | jelly-home | xeon-enouf: I mean the same thing read both. |
| 09:53.01 | jelly-home | reads* |
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| 09:55.12 | xeon-enouf | superjoe: the think with everything being pinned to the same value (or higher pin for newer software) is; you might get hit with breakage unwittingly while upgrading other things, with a very low pin priority set, you have to use --target release to get new stuff == safer (YMMV) |
| 09:55.22 | xeon-enouf | s/think/thing/ |
| 09:55.40 | jelly-home | thnee: check whether dropbear uses pam. If it does, make sure there's a pam_env.so line or two in it like in /etc/pam.d/login |
| 09:56.19 | xeon-enouf | wtf is this dropoop stuff? :p |
| 09:56.20 | jelly-home | thnee: order matters. Be careful not to log off the remote machine before veryifying you can log back in |
| 09:56.25 | xeon-enouf | !dropbear |
| 09:56.25 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, dropbear is an SSH 2 server and client that is designed to be small enough to be used in low-memory embedded environments, while still being functional and secure enough for general use. |
| 09:56.31 | jelly-home | enoufpoop |
| 09:56.36 | xeon-enouf | heh |
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| 09:56.56 | xeon-enouf | might as well run emdebian ;-) |
| 09:57.08 | thnee | jelly-home: yeah its my VPS so i think i have to reinstall if i fuck up |
| 09:58.05 | jelly-home | but srsly, why not just put export LANG=... in your ~/.bash_profile and be done with it |
| 09:58.07 | thnee | jelly-home: i dont know how to confirm if my is doing it, but it looks like it has support for it |
| 09:58.20 | thnee | jelly-home: i want it system wide for all users |
| 09:58.38 | thnee | thats all |
| 09:58.39 | jelly-home | "all users" ... on an embedded system? |
| 09:58.53 | thnee | my problem? |
| 09:59.03 | jelly-home | if you have a multiuser machine, just use a proper sshd :-D |
| 09:59.26 | xeon-enouf | thnee: you can do each user manually, then see /etc/default/useradd perhaps (or /etc/adduser) , and use that to addusers |
| 09:59.41 | thnee | what? |
| 09:59.48 | jelly-home | ho yes, put it in skel |
| 09:59.57 | thnee | what?! |
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| 10:00.03 | jelly-home | xeon-enouf: that's a nice hack |
| 10:00.15 | xeon-enouf | land ho! .. or you dirty ho! :-p |
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| 10:00.42 | jelly-home | thnee: when a user is created the normal way, files from /etc/skel are copied to their fresh new, empty $HOME |
| 10:00.46 | thnee | i tried putting it in /etc/environment but that didnt work either |
| 10:00.56 | jelly-home | your problem! |
| 10:00.59 | jelly-home | gives up |
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| 10:01.37 | thnee | i already have created users |
| 10:01.54 | xeon-enouf | for loop! |
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| 10:02.07 | thnee | and i dont want to change their scripts, i just want to set the LANG variable system wide |
| 10:02.31 | thnee | is that too much to ask? |
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| 10:03.22 | jelly-home | apparently when using dropbear, it is |
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| 10:03.47 | thnee | hmm |
| 10:03.47 | xeon-enouf | are you even running debian proper? |
| 10:04.15 | thnee | no just regular debian 5 |
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| 10:05.07 | superjoe | ah, thanks for the tip xeon-enouf |
| 10:05.41 | xeon-enouf | np |
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| 10:08.25 | thnee | i know |
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| 10:08.35 | thnee | i can put it in /etc/zsh/zlogin |
| 10:08.40 | thnee | since everyone shall run that |
| 10:08.52 | xeon-enouf | haha; i was about to say /me wonders which shell he's using |
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| 10:09.54 | Linux-IRC | how to update firefox 3.5.2 to firefox-3.5.3? |
| 10:10.02 | thnee | great success |
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| 10:10.12 | thnee | thanks for the help guys |
| 10:11.15 | jelly-home | Linux-IRC: ask #firefox |
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| 10:13.46 | dsdeiz | X11 <- that's x related right? there are libraries that are required by links2 that uses that. is it for graphics mode in links2? |
| 10:13.48 | Linux-IRC | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:14.51 | jelly-home | Linux-IRC: you've already asked this and got suggestions and answers to both questions. Ask in the #firefox channel, this isn't a Debian specific issue. |
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| 10:15.34 | Linux-IRC | jelly-home: nothing is going on in #firefox |
| 10:15.41 | Linux-IRC | !firefox |
| 10:15.42 | dpkg | from memory, firefox is replaced by iceweasel in Debian. Ask me about <iceweasel> and <why iceweasel>. |
| 10:16.34 | xeon-enouf | Linux-IRC: btw; what's .3 have that .2 doesn't? |
| 10:16.45 | jelly-home | Linux-IRC: so, idle there for a while. It's Sunday. |
| 10:16.58 | jelly-home | the usual mix of security and other issues |
| 10:17.51 | xeon-enouf | xulrunner related no doubt |
| 10:18.16 | Linux-IRC | xeon-enouf: Problem is Firefox browser>Help> Check for updates is off , "Check for update is not highlighted |
| 10:19.37 | xeon-enouf | heh - exper has 3.5.3-1: amd64 armel s390 sparc for those ARCHes |
| 10:20.27 | Linux-IRC | jelly-home: It's Sunday , so what? are the computers blocked/broken on Sunday? |
| 10:21.05 | cahoot | the users? |
| 10:21.09 | xeon-enouf | Linux-IRC: nah, the robots that use those computers are sleeping/resting or otherwise on holiday :-P |
| 10:21.53 | cahoot | Linux-IRC: do you even run a debian system? |
| 10:22.44 | mhymn | actually: |
| 10:22.47 | mhymn | !sunday |
| 10:22.48 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
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| 10:24.14 | Linux-IRC | cahoot: is it possible to make you believe that? |
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| 10:25.06 | cahoot | don't bother trying |
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| 10:28.17 | cheako911 | Hello, I've cloned a computer and when trying to get ssh to regen host keys it does not. |
| 10:29.12 | xeon-enouf | ssh-keygen ? |
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| 10:29.45 | elops | i see in the ssh console some history entries which i never have typed. how can i see which user has entered this commands? |
| 10:29.49 | dutchfish | cheako911, maybe net-25 rules (udev) |
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| 10:31.08 | dutchfish | cheako911, or on squeeze 70-persistent-net.rules |
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| 10:32.00 | dutchfish | cheako911, they contain a mac address that needs ot be changed for the clone |
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| 10:32.27 | xeon-enouf | elops: well; i don;t think you can for past, but i'd setup sudo, then all important commands are logged to /var/log/auth.* otherwise, who cares what commands they run as non-root user ;-) |
| 10:32.29 | Linux-IRC | mhymn: xeon-enouf: cahoot: if all are off on Sunday, so why are you here? and why are others here? are those debian experts paid for helping here in #debian? |
| 10:32.34 | dutchfish | cheako911, or regenerated |
| 10:32.44 | Linux-IRC | jelly-home: mhymn: if all are off on Sunday, so why are you here? and why are others here? are those debian experts paid for helping here in #debian? |
| 10:33.04 | xeon-enouf | Linux-IRC: you can stop being silly now ;-) |
| 10:33.06 | jelly-home | is away: not here |
| 10:33.12 | cheako911 | dutchfish: yup, did that. |
| 10:33.13 | xeon-enouf | is a bot |
| 10:33.19 | jelly-home | xeon-enouf: me too! |
| 10:33.25 | cheako911 | I need to regenerate ssh host keys. |
| 10:33.41 | cheako911 | ohh, done reconfigured openssh-server |
| 10:34.09 | dutchfish | cheako911, if you restarted network then you should be able let ssh-keygen do that (see manpage) |
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| 10:35.19 | dsdeiz_ | hello, what i needed is a text based browser that has javascript because in order for me to setup my internet connection, i needed to login to my isp's web portal.. any suggestions? |
| 10:35.35 | dsdeiz_ | -r |
| 10:36.48 | xeon-enouf | dsdeiz_: i think elinks does it, not sure if it's text based, but links2 is/can be, or even GUI in console |
| 10:37.22 | dsdeiz_ | xeon-enouf: gui in console? |
| 10:37.27 | xeon-enouf | yes |
| 10:37.33 | dsdeiz_ | is it with the -g option? |
| 10:37.54 | xeon-enouf | dsdeiz_: yes /msg dpkg links2 |
| 10:38.23 | dsdeiz_ | got it, thank you |
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| 10:41.10 | Linux-IRC | xeon-enouf: are you a irc-bot? |
| 10:41.10 | dsdeiz_ | ok, be right back again .. hehehe |
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| 10:42.31 | liable | Linux-IRC: he is a new humanoid bot we have been trialing in the channel here for a while.. |
| 10:43.32 | themill | It's an early prototype. It's got a few rough edges and doesn't work very well. |
| 10:44.05 | cahoot | early? 3 years? |
| 10:44.34 | liable | yes, its had lots of bugs ;) |
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| 10:50.02 | gps23 | how can i change application associated with a mime-type so that see command starts respecting it |
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| 10:53.33 | nekostar | sweet |
| 10:54.18 | nekostar | hey if i take a dell which has the 63MB/sysrestore/system partition scheme and dual boot the bastard, can i run a fixmbr to restore to original? |
| 10:54.27 | nekostar | or i should say it like this actually i think: |
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| 10:55.09 | nekostar | if i back up the mbr, any problems if i slam it back on later with the f11 re-image kinda options? |
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| 10:55.31 | nekostar | its a corporate boxen so i need to be able to restore if they dont like the dual |
| 10:55.35 | nekostar | ty in advance |
| 10:55.54 | atirjavid | gps23, uhm... the alternatives system? or do you mean browser? or desktop file manager? |
| 10:55.55 | dsdeiz | the site is still saying that javascript is not enabled.. :( although the gui version in console rocks |
| 10:56.20 | atirjavid | gps23, which mimetype, which application, which debian, which desktop env? |
| 10:56.32 | atirjavid | !ask |
| 10:56.33 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 10:57.07 | nekostar | wonders who atirjavid means ~_~ |
| 10:57.10 | atirjavid | use a good question asking format and provide the neccessery information in your initial query so that we don't have to ask you about them. |
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| 10:57.16 | nekostar | !question |
| 10:57.28 | atirjavid | thanks |
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| 10:57.58 | gps23 | atirjavid, i want to change application associated with avi files for that mc can run files in just mplayer instead of gmplayer which is giving problems |
| 10:58.20 | atirjavid | i do not use midnight commander, or whatever the heck MC is |
| 10:58.24 | atirjavid | I have no idea. |
| 10:58.34 | atirjavid | gps23, consult the MC documentation |
| 10:58.46 | gps23 | atirjavid, i changed the /etc/mailcap file and added the mplayer in user section but still see isn't opening .avi file in mplayer |
| 10:58.58 | gps23 | atirjavid, mc is using see command |
| 10:59.01 | atirjavid | wait |
| 10:59.05 | atirjavid | why mailcap? |
| 10:59.07 | nekostar | mm there used to be a link in the topic but i'm too lazy to look for it |
| 10:59.08 | atirjavid | what? |
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| 10:59.14 | atirjavid | nekostar, for what? |
| 10:59.39 | atirjavid | nekostar, you don't have to |
| 10:59.46 | gps23 | atirjavid, mailcap contains the mime types and associated programs |
| 10:59.51 | atirjavid | nekostar, do not hose the backup partition of a corporate work system |
| 10:59.59 | atirjavid | gps23, that isn't used with MC |
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| 11:00.03 | nekostar | atirjavid: plz read the question again. |
| 11:00.14 | nekostar | the only answer needed is either "yes" or "no" |
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| 11:00.22 | nekostar | anything else means you shouldnt be answering, sorry ^^ |
| 11:00.25 | nekostar | much appreciated? |
| 11:00.41 | gps23 | atirjavid, the .mc/bindings files use "see %f" to handle video files on my debian lenny |
| 11:00.49 | atirjavid | nekostar, good luck. |
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| 11:00.59 | atirjavid | gps23, again.. I do not know mc. |
| 11:01.02 | atirjavid | I can't help you. |
| 11:01.03 | nekostar | atirjavid: i'll restate again for clarity for ya lol |
| 11:01.10 | atirjavid | nekostar, no thanks. |
| 11:01.25 | atirjavid | nekostar, seek support from someone else who will answer as you want them to. |
| 11:01.25 | nekostar | its got the 63MB dell partition and teh usual 10GB restore partition and the rest is vista |
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| 11:01.58 | nekostar | so if i resize the vista partition to make room, and backup the mbr, the ONLY question i have is if i restore that backed up mbr will it restore all earlier functioning. |
| 11:02.12 | nekostar | up to and including the usual f11 shytes. |
| 11:02.17 | atirjavid | your question has nothing to do with #debian |
| 11:02.20 | nekostar | it _should_ iirc, but its been a minute |
| 11:02.24 | atirjavid | consult with ##windows or ##linux |
| 11:02.34 | atirjavid | nekostar, do you have a debian support related question? |
| 11:02.40 | nekostar | atirjavid: it has 100% to do with debian as i plan to dual boot with debain |
| 11:02.58 | nekostar | and XP/vista dont officially really support dual booting with OTHER os's |
| 11:02.59 | dsdeiz | why isn't -enable-javascript in the man page of links2? |
| 11:03.05 | nekostar | so i'm in teh correct place. |
| 11:03.55 | atirjavid | this is not the place for generic partition backup/restore questions |
| 11:04.04 | nekostar | anyone else who isnt a tard mind taking a crack? |
| 11:04.24 | nekostar | atirjavid: i'm not asking a generic question you fucking pissant |
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| 11:04.26 | atirjavid | nekostar, please refrain from namecalling |
| 11:04.27 | nekostar | lol |
| 11:04.38 | nekostar | i'll pass on that thanks |
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| 11:06.21 | atirjavid | nekostar, your question has absolutely nothing to do with debian. What you plan to do with debian is beyond that point. If you need to learn how to backup and restore partitions, google it. |
| 11:07.03 | nekostar | atirjavid: i ask a very specific question having to do with backing up mbr prior to overwriting with grub, then restoring later. |
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| 11:07.13 | atirjavid | You are asking about HP backup paritions, and vista partitions |
| 11:07.17 | nekostar | if you dont understand how that fits here, then try #gentoo or perhaps #failure |
| 11:07.51 | atirjavid | why don't you try ##linux |
| 11:08.02 | atirjavid | you are obviously not finding any support here |
| 11:08.16 | atirjavid | its been some time |
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| 11:09.12 | Dirrk | nekostar: grub should only overwrite the MBR. So if you back the MBR, install Debian, and the restore the MBR, you *should* be back to the old functionality, unless Dell is doing something really weird. |
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| 11:10.40 | atirjavid | Dirrk, it will be fine. Dell, HP, neither have anything to do with the MBR |
| 11:11.26 | atirjavid | we're not talking about the bios, which is mostly manuf. dependant |
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| 11:13.05 | atirjavid | Dirrk, I would have helped him instead of messing with him if he had not been a total dick to me. All I did was try to help and he went, "could you just answer me how I want, read the question again, you can't comprehend" basically insulting my intelligence. |
| 11:13.11 | nekostar | Dirrk: thank you very fucking much. |
| 11:13.19 | atirjavid | Dirrk, I'm surprised you chose to help such a nasty person. |
| 11:13.27 | nekostar | atirjavid: stfu obviously you dont understand the words coming out of your own mouth. |
| 11:13.46 | nekostar | atirjavid: you fall in this catagory i see a lot |
| 11:14.13 | nekostar | its this person type when presented with someone asking a question rather than either a. answering teh question or b. not answering it they c. try to talk them out of it. |
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| 11:14.18 | atirjavid | Dirrk, I suppose if you can look past that, you are a bigger man than I am. |
| 11:14.47 | nekostar | its acceptable to ask questions needed to find motive if what is being asked can be accomplished many ways, but apparently there is a need for a "how to answer questions" document |
| 11:14.56 | nekostar | i suggest you break out google and learn just that. |
| 11:15.17 | nekostar | oh and reg your nick so you dont look like your here as seldom as u prolly are |
| 11:15.20 | ajavid | !debstats |
| 11:15.20 | ajavid | dpkg, hi |
| 11:15.20 | dpkg | debstats is managed by sussudio, http://debstats.dontexist.org/ (#debian FN) and http://members.ziggo.nl/sussudio/debian-oftc.html (#debian OFTC) |
| 11:15.20 | dpkg | moin moin, ajavid |
| 11:16.00 | nekostar | little better. |
| 11:16.07 | nekostar | now learn the answering bit and youll be great. |
| 11:16.15 | ajavid | For years and years I've been one of the top supporters in here. |
| 11:16.25 | ajavid | Your personal attacks mean nothing, and they change nothing. |
| 11:16.39 | ajavid | You ask for help, you take it on the terms it is provided to you on. |
| 11:16.44 | ajavid | Beggers can't be chosers. |
| 11:16.50 | ajavid | Learn that my friend. |
| 11:16.56 | nekostar | ajavid: that's where your completely wrong. |
| 11:16.56 | ajavid | nekostar, also, don't namecall people |
| 11:17.10 | ajavid | nekostar, now kindly, go away and bother someone else |
| 11:17.13 | nekostar | 1. i'm not a begger. 2. i choose to call you shit names. |
| 11:17.25 | ajavid | nekostar, thanks, now get the fuck off my screen. |
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| 11:17.37 | nekostar | lmfao may i suggest /ignore nick all |
| 11:18.28 | xeon-enouf | whoa~ |
| 11:18.37 | ajavid | I installed zend optimizer on stable... 3.3.3 |
| 11:18.48 | ajavid | itsloaded in phpinfo and its still slow |
| 11:19.05 | ajavid | xeon-enouf, just watched a video on how much mod_php sucks compared to fastcgi |
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| 11:19.25 | ajavid | xeon-enouf, now i have to change my lamp server to use fastcgi :) |
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| 11:19.42 | ajavid | xeon-enouf, I don't need to walk away when i've got /ignore |
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| 11:19.49 | ajavid | oh whoops, supposed to be /msg |
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| 11:20.48 | ajavid | !popcon |
| 11:20.48 | dpkg | hmm... popcon is the Debian Popularity contest, the basis for what packages appear on the first few CDs/DVDs etc (by rank). Install the popularity-contest package to participate. See the results at http://popcon.debian.org/ |
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| 11:21.57 | ajavid | man, I never did write that amd64 chroot howto... been working on my website all night |
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| 11:22.07 | ajavid | worked on it, didn't write any debian tutorials |
| 11:22.35 | ajavid | I was reading over the amd64 howto just now... wow. That thing is just... I don't how any newbie can follow it and get anything done |
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| 11:24.05 | ajavid | wtf |
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| 11:24.17 | dutchfish | !sunday |
| 11:24.17 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
| 11:24.18 | ajavid | med307644698, please do not do that again |
| 11:24.43 | ajavid | is it sunday alreayd? |
| 11:24.46 | ajavid | whooey |
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| 11:25.03 | ajavid | I been coding and writing and studying for days and I ... lost track of the time |
| 11:25.21 | ajavid | dang, I thought it was friday... |
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| 11:26.00 | xeon-enouf | ok |
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| 11:31.04 | bolt | can anyone tell me what this does? for arg in "${@:0:$#}"; do |
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| 11:31.17 | bolt | (bash) |
| 11:31.38 | xeon-enouf | is #bash dead? :-p |
| 11:31.57 | bolt | probably not. just thought of going there as i said it :) |
| 11:31.58 | liable | nothing like getting a larting in #bash |
| 11:32.06 | xeon-enouf | haha |
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| 11:34.05 | med307644698 | implodes irrationally |
| 11:34.31 | azeem | med307644698: do you have a Debian question? |
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| 11:37.19 | ayadi88 | no i'am just taking alook |
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| 11:39.59 | azeem | ayadi88: then please either keep quiet or leave |
| 11:40.43 | ayadi88 | ok |
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| 11:45.40 | JarlG | Hello! I'm relatively new to Linux, yet I decided to install Debian. Now, after the installation, the system boots to the GRUB, but the GRUB doesn't automatically load the kernel - how would I load the kernel manually? |
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| 11:49.35 | valdyn | JarlG: google "grub+menu.lst" and look for examples to boot linux |
| 11:49.48 | JarlG | valdyn: Will do, thanks! |
| 11:50.03 | achilles | hello, if I echo "ls -alh" > /dev/pts/1 where pts/1 is remote connection via ssh, it echos the text but it doesn't execute the command, any help ? |
| 11:50.09 | valdyn | JarlG: most of the commands make sense directly in grub, "title" obviously does not |
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| 11:54.55 | xeon-enouf | achilles: try backticks instead - but why are you even doing that? |
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| 11:55.49 | achilles | xeon-enouf, to get use of opened sessions on my server |
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| 11:56.05 | achilles | xeon-enouf, well, the sessions are terminals connected a screens |
| 11:56.24 | valdyn | achilles: its just: "ls -alh > /dev/pts/1". Echo is not useful here. |
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| 11:56.59 | xeon-enouf | achilles: if you're connected, then just type that in a terminal |
| 11:57.09 | buu | abrotman: There's another med307644698 ... |
| 11:57.20 | abrotman | wtf |
| 11:57.33 | xeon-enouf | buu: keeps changing his phone number? :-P |
| 11:57.36 | abrotman | watches closely |
| 11:57.44 | abrotman | xeon-enouf: not enough digits |
| 11:57.57 | xeon-enouf | abrotman: depends on country :-) |
| 11:58.08 | abrotman | not enough in yours |
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| 11:58.32 | xeon-enouf | abrotman: isn't your phone number like 2 ? :-p |
| 11:58.41 | abrotman | yeah |
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| 12:03.12 | JarlG | valdyn: Am I supposed to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file in order to load my kernel? :/ |
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| 12:05.22 | xeon-enouf | !tell JarlG -about rescue mode |
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| 12:07.07 | JarlG | I installed through netinstal with an USB. If I boot the usb, it doesn't load the setup anymore, it boots busybox with ash. Are you telling me I have to download another ISO, and run that one with rescue mode? :/ |
| 12:07.23 | JarlG | (if it matters, the netinstal usb was made with unetbootin) |
| 12:07.25 | xeon-enouf | no |
| 12:07.49 | xeon-enouf | doesn't know unetwhateveritis |
| 12:08.36 | JarlG | UNetbootin - Homepage and Downloads <http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/> |
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| 12:10.23 | xeon-enouf | JarlG: what might be happening is, your disk order in BIOS changes when you have a USB stick inserted while booting |
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| 12:11.29 | JarlG | xeon-enouf: What do you mean disk order? The disk boot order? |
| 12:11.35 | xeon-enouf | JarlG: yep |
| 12:11.53 | JarlG | xeon-enouf: I know how to select boot device. :) |
| 12:12.07 | xeon-enouf | JarlG: grub doesn't |
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| 12:12.43 | JarlG | xeon-enouf: aah. There's no change in behaviour when there's an usb inserted, or not though. |
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| 12:13.21 | xeon-enouf | do you get to the grub menu? if so, use 'e' alter the root (hdX,X) line, hit ENTER, then 'b' .. IIRC |
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| 12:15.25 | JarlG | xeon-enouf: It boots to grub, where I am able to enter commands (ver 0.97) |
| 12:15.48 | JarlG | xeon-enouf: what do you mean 'e' and 'b' (b=boot?)? |
| 12:16.03 | xeon-enouf | hit ESC, see if menu comes up, or install grub properly |
| 12:16.22 | xeon-enouf | put the netinstall cd in and type 'rescue' |
| 12:16.45 | JarlG | esc shows no menu |
| 12:16.49 | JarlG | Will do, rescue |
| 12:17.06 | xeon-enouf | JarlG: you appear to be booting to grub shell ; so do root (hd[TAB] |
| 12:17.32 | JarlG | 2secs |
| 12:18.23 | JarlG | root brings up hd0, |
| 12:18.27 | achilles | xeon-enouf, ls -alh > /dev/pts/1 will redirect the result to the peer, I want the command to be executed at the peer |
| 12:18.51 | xeon-enouf | select appropriate things, do the same for kernel[TAB] ; then initrd[TAB] ; then hrm .. i forget offhand now :-p |
| 12:19.02 | JarlG | WIll do, thanks |
| 12:19.08 | xeon-enouf | achilles: so login to peer and run command |
| 12:20.09 | JarlG | xeon-enouf: kernel [tab] just says error 1 |
| 12:20.26 | xeon-enouf | JarlG: from the grub shell, it's easy to install grub, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-natively.html |
| 12:20.37 | JarlG | Thanks! |
| 12:20.42 | xeon-enouf | JarlG: no spaces - maybe it can't find a kernel :-P |
| 12:20.45 | achilles | xeon-enouf, it's not abusing, it's all a simple system for managing output, peers get connected automatically once they launched up, it's about 90 peer! |
| 12:21.45 | achilles | xeon-enouf, I can set NetCat connection and forward texts, but it's not executed |
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| 12:23.15 | xeon-enouf | achilles: if you're remotely connected via ssh (as you imply) and sshd is running on the server, then just run the command in your shell |
| 12:23.42 | xeon-enouf | achilles: but i think i misunderstand your setup and various peer thingamajigs |
| 12:24.16 | omid8bimo | what's gonna happen if i assign one UID to multiple users? |
| 12:24.28 | nekostar | omid8bimo: no. |
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| 12:24.36 | nekostar | what you do is set multiple users for the same group |
| 12:24.43 | nekostar | then set the gruop permissions to match. |
| 12:25.00 | JarlG | xeon-enouf: I did setup (hd0), booted. Menu shows up, but wont boot because root(hd1,0) didn't exist. SO I edited it to root(hd0,0), and it's doing lots of stuff now! :P |
| 12:25.36 | nekostar | omid8bimo: though interestingly enough, it seems to store it in reality by the uid/gid # and not name, tho it displays it as friendly name normally; |
| 12:25.39 | achilles | xeon-enouf, simple, 90 peers get connected automatically ( no auth) they are dummy devices, now sessions are connected, I'm at the server side want to speared commands to be executed at them all at the same time |
| 12:25.40 | omid8bimo | nekostar: i dont have that option, but set aside, i wanna what's gonna happen if i assign one UID ro several users |
| 12:26.09 | nekostar | omid8bimo: could you describe the scenario a bit more while i see if there's a good way to make it happen? |
| 12:26.37 | achilles | I can't open another session in reverse, as I have already a session opened there should be a way to transport commands in both directions |
| 12:27.13 | omid8bimo | tehre is process which created files with 700 permission, it's asterisk. so even bringing other users under asterik group wont solve it ause those files are 700 |
| 12:27.29 | omid8bimo | so i have to chmod 777 them all the time, |
| 12:27.33 | nekostar | omid8bimo: any reason not to make them 770? |
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| 12:28.02 | nekostar | and what process in asterisk? likely there's a default file permissions config somewhere |
| 12:28.11 | omid8bimo | nekostar: i can't, it's asterisk internal program and it creates the files by itself and assign them 700 |
| 12:28.23 | nekostar | omid8bimo: what types of files? |
| 12:28.27 | nekostar | and are they all in one place? |
| 12:28.33 | nekostar | say voicemail? |
| 12:28.40 | omid8bimo | yup |
| 12:28.50 | nekostar | http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2005-June/013455.html |
| 12:28.52 | nekostar | enjoi |
| 12:29.02 | nekostar | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=asterisk+create+files+default+permissions&aq=f&oq=&aqi= third result |
| 12:29.13 | nekostar | [you might find faster next time ;)] |
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| 12:31.47 | xeon-enouf | JarlG: right., wrong device order - check /boot/grub/device.map, (or alter your BIOS or something) ... or just alter your menu.lst kernel and initrd lines, _and_ your # kopt=root=... line and # groot=... line (do NOT remove the leading #) |
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| 12:32.48 | JarlG | xeon-enouf: I JUST BOOTED! :D I had to edit the link to the kernel and stuff! :P (makes me feel soo pro) Is your last 'command' still necessary? |
| 12:33.54 | omid8bimo | necro\: thanks dude, but that wont solve my issue, owership is okay, just need to tell asterisk to create those file with 777 permission :) |
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| 12:35.21 | xeon-enouf | JarlG: try it a few times, if it all works out, then no - but beware when/if you have a bootable USB stick inserted when you boot |
| 12:35.51 | xeon-enouf | JarlG: how do you think hd0,0 was mistakenly set to hd1,0 ? :-) |
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| 12:36.04 | JarlG | xeon-enougf: I will. Thanks!! :) Aaaah, I see. |
| 12:36.16 | JarlG | xeon-enouf: By the usb, yes? |
| 12:36.52 | xeon-enouf | JarlG: so yeah - alter those things ... otherwise any 'update-grub' command might make the new entry incorrect (when you install a new kernel) |
| 12:37.16 | xeon-enouf | JarlG: especially the last two i mentioned (kopt and groot) |
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| 12:38.10 | necro\ | omid8bimo: do these files live in a unified directory? |
| 12:38.21 | xeon-enouf | JarlG: yes, when you 1st install grub it has to guess the BIOS boot order .. it obviously saw the wrong device as 1st ;-) |
| 12:38.29 | JarlG | Hmm. I'd like to make my account 'jarlg' able to use 'sudo' to gain admin rights, how do I add me to the sudoers file? :) |
| 12:38.46 | xeon-enouf | !sudoers |
| 12:38.46 | dpkg | You can grant yourself (minimally secure) root permissions for <sudo> by adding a line like this to /etc/sudoers: 'user ALL=(ALL) ALL' (no quotes, replacing user with your username). For more security, please study the man pages from 'apropos sudo'. See also <visudo>. |
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| 12:39.12 | omid8bimo | necro\: kinda but in different sub dirs |
| 12:39.12 | citrix | is linux single user or multiple or a single and multiple user? |
| 12:39.15 | necro\ | JarlG: consider granting sudo to %wheel instead of your user and add your user to that |
| 12:39.23 | JarlG | okay |
| 12:39.23 | sphenxes | a friend of me has RAID 1 hard disks. I told him to clone it with cloneZilla and create image and backup. however that hasn't work. Why? and is there any opensource software solution for Raid 1 and dynamic partitions to be backed up and make an image for it |
| 12:39.27 | necro\ | omid8bimo: thats fine. |
| 12:39.37 | necro\ | how often do these files need to have these permissions? |
| 12:39.44 | xeon-enouf | necro\: JarlG debian has no wheel group |
| 12:39.58 | xeon-enouf | but you _could_ create one if you like, and name it anything |
| 12:40.01 | necro\ | xeon-enouf: sure sure, there are equivalents |
| 12:40.14 | xeon-enouf | necro\: yah, group sudo ;-0 |
| 12:40.18 | necro\ | lol |
| 12:40.26 | xeon-enouf | adm cdrom floppy sudo audio video plugdev staff |
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| 12:41.10 | necro\ | omid8bimo: the reason i ask, is one could setup a cronjob to do just that |
| 12:41.16 | oxi | hi |
| 12:41.35 | oxi | I'm trying to build a .deb package |
| 12:41.36 | xeon-enouf | sphenxes: doesn't work how? |
| 12:41.38 | necro\ | * * * * * /bin/chmod -R 777 /path/to/voicemails |
| 12:41.40 | omid8bimo | necro\: yeah that's one solution i could think of |
| 12:41.55 | necro\ | omid8bimo: on the multiple users same uid; i'd like to see that tried. |
| 12:41.59 | necro\ | please back it all up first |
| 12:42.04 | necro\ | or spam in here how your planning to do it |
| 12:42.08 | oxi | the resulting .deb package is very small and doesn't contain my compiled java lib |
| 12:42.08 | necro\ | or pm with it |
| 12:42.09 | tzafrir_laptop | necro\, the Asterisk process generates those files |
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| 12:42.13 | oxi | is that normal? |
| 12:42.14 | necro\ | b/c i'd LOVE to see if it gets borked |
| 12:42.18 | necro\ | tzafrir_laptop: YEAH |
| 12:42.21 | sphenxes | xeon-enouf, after he built the image, he change the hard disk with the image. it has not booted. |
| 12:42.21 | abrotman | wtf .. 777 is very likely wrong |
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| 12:42.26 | tzafrir_laptop | Their permissions are basically set from its umask value |
| 12:42.42 | necro\ | tzafrir_laptop: @ omid8bimo there |
| 12:42.50 | necro\ | even tho he's too lazy to do /j #asterisk |
| 12:43.00 | tzafrir_laptop | This can be set e.g. in the init script of asterisk |
| 12:43.01 | necro\ | abrotman: very very |
| 12:43.04 | abrotman | you did it |
| 12:43.16 | necro\ | abrotman: read up a bit |
| 12:43.21 | necro\ | i tried not to ~_~ |
| 12:43.46 | abrotman | but you did anyways .. there are other ways i'm sure |
| 12:43.55 | necro\ | abrotman: plz read up |
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| 12:44.04 | xeon-enouf | sphenxes: that's not specific enough for me to ascertain .. also, i have no idea how clonezilla works .. but since it's mirrored, all you need is to copy one disk, but the correct one with the bootloader ;-) |
| 12:44.21 | necro\ | we've talked about a. two users sharing uid b. manually making two into a group and making 770, but he wants a or that |
| 12:44.24 | necro\ | or so |
| 12:44.27 | necro\ | sux |
| 12:44.30 | xeon-enouf | sphenxes: and .. are you using mdadm (linux software raid)? |
| 12:45.06 | oxi | what could I be doing wrong if my resulting .deb package doesn't contain the compiled packages I expected? |
| 12:45.31 | necro\ | abrotman: the root problem is file creation mode for voicmail files in asterisk. |
| 12:46.02 | necro\ | tzafrir_laptop: so you were speaking of changing umask - is there a setting for this in a config somewhere? |
| 12:46.25 | tzafrir_laptop | Do you use the Debian package? |
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| 12:46.33 | xeon-enouf | oxi: try #debian-mentors ? man dh_[tab][tab], man debhelper, install devscripts, use it |
| 12:46.40 | necro\ | tzafrir_laptop: again @ omid8bimo there |
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| 12:46.54 | oxi | xeon-enouf: thanks! |
| 12:46.57 | necro\ | tzafrir_laptop: lets assume it was? also i'm curios for centos [i deal with txbx a lot] |
| 12:47.07 | tzafrir_laptop | necro\, omid8bimo is not there anymore |
| 12:47.25 | omid8bimo | tzafrir_laptop: yes i'm here |
| 12:47.28 | necro\ | tzafrir_laptop: the nick sure is |
| 12:47.30 | necro\ | and um |
| 12:47.33 | necro\ | he's ALIBE |
| 12:47.34 | necro\ | :D |
| 12:47.36 | omid8bimo | :D |
| 12:47.36 | abrotman | !enter |
| 12:47.36 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 12:47.39 | xeon-enouf | !mentors |
| 12:47.39 | dpkg | mentors is, like, the system that the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg> or <mg>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ http://mentors.debian.net/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org. |
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| 12:47.48 | necro\ | abrotman: dammit i was gonna hit that to me anyway ~_~ |
| 12:47.53 | xeon-enouf | oxi: it;s over on other network |
| 12:48.01 | tzafrir_laptop | I thought you meant #asterisk |
| 12:48.18 | oxi | xeon-enouf: #debian-mentors seems to be invite only, I got kicked immediately |
| 12:48.19 | necro\ | o: not quite.. lol ;)_ |
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| 12:48.32 | xeon-enouf | oxi: oh well .. heh |
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| 12:48.59 | oxi | xeon-enouf: I tried dh_*, debhelper, devscripts |
| 12:49.18 | hark | oxi: oftc not here |
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| 12:49.52 | necro\ | well omid8bimo there are patches |
| 12:49.55 | oxi | xeon-enouf: I've also been googling a lot, but somehow my jar doesn't get into the .deb. Maybe it doesn't work as I expect it to. |
| 12:50.00 | oxi | hark: oftc? |
| 12:50.05 | omid8bimo | necro\: i thought of another thing |
| 12:50.10 | necro\ | as for the affects of multiple users sharing the same uid not sure |
| 12:50.14 | necro\ | omid8bimo: o? wat |
| 12:50.14 | omid8bimo | necro\: to change umask in /etc/bashrc |
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| 12:50.24 | necro\ | for asterisk? |
| 12:50.27 | xeon-enouf | oxi: irc.debian.org/irc.OFTC.net == same same |
| 12:50.35 | necro\ | does it use bash? |
| 12:50.37 | necro\ | lol |
| 12:50.44 | oxi | xeon-enouf: tanks |
| 12:50.47 | oxi | *thanks |
| 12:51.03 | omid8bimo | necro\: yup |
| 12:51.03 | zeroConf | anyone used a debian server to pxe/netboot boot windows desktop computers for re-imaging ? i was thinking all it needs is to dd an image from the server back over the hdd on the local machine.... must be simple to do.... |
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| 12:51.25 | necro\ | omid8bimo: give it a shot and memo me on the results |
| 12:51.30 | necro\ | that's usefull i suppose |
| 12:51.46 | omid8bimo | necro\: sure :) |
| 12:51.58 | necro\ | though ive yet to use debian for asterisk, as most of the places requested either trixbox or fonality which is built on centos unfortunately |
| 12:52.14 | necro\ | oh and xeon-enouf i make myself a wheel group FYI |
| 12:52.17 | necro\ | :D |
| 12:52.30 | abrotman | !tell necro\ about enter |
| 12:52.33 | abrotman | !tell necro\ about wheel |
| 12:53.11 | xeon-enouf | necro\: RMS is going to steal your breakfast |
| 12:53.24 | oxi | xeon-enouf: perfect, located #debian-mentors ,... thanks! |
| 12:53.32 | xeon-enouf | ;-) |
| 12:53.37 | necro\ | xeon-enouf: nooOOOOOoooOO!!!! er RMS? define. |
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| 12:53.52 | xeon-enouf | !vrmsmite necro\ |
| 12:54.18 | patrikf | zeroConf: it's not as simple when it concerns more than one computer |
| 12:54.21 | xeon-enouf | necro\: that GNU guy ... with the beard .. and bathrobe for clothing :-P |
| 12:55.15 | necro\ | xeon-enouf: i'd love to become that |
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| 12:55.37 | necro\ | ok i'll be back l8r; good luck omid8bimo |
| 12:55.40 | patrikf | zeroConf: various registry entries have to be changed if those computers are to coexist in a network... microsoft has some utility to do that (called sysprep iirc) |
| 12:55.48 | zeroConf | patrikf - but it would be simple if they were all the same config? |
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| 12:56.07 | patrikf | zeroConf: and of course it gets even harder if they have different hardware |
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| 12:56.12 | zeroConf | patrikf - what about if you started with a image of each one as a clean install ? |
| 12:56.16 | xeon-enouf | bartspe maybe? patrikf |
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| 12:57.06 | patrikf | xeon-enouf: hm, don't think that's what he wants |
| 12:57.14 | xeon-enouf | ok |
| 12:57.24 | zeroConf | so you have to keep the master image for each computer seperate, but that would be easier then reinstalling everything ? just take a snapshot/ image of it before the user ever uses it, then net-reimage that image whenever they fuck it up... like at the end of every day |
| 12:57.24 | patrikf | zeroConf: that would work, but then you'd have to do all the software installs on all the computers |
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| 12:57.48 | zeroConf | patrikf - all the installs on all the computers ONCE instead of once a week... |
| 12:57.52 | patrikf | zeroConf: or have just one image for each hardware combination, and play with that sysprep utility |
| 12:58.11 | patrikf | or buy norton ghost ;-) |
| 12:58.16 | zeroConf | patrikf - i am thinking of a friends internet cafe, i was thinking if i do it for him, maybe he can give me a new computer... he is always winging about it.... |
| 12:58.51 | zeroConf | he has to rebuild all the internet cafe computers every week, so he does one each day and swaps them out in turn.... he keeps them running that way... but it seems illogical to me |
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| 13:00.06 | patrikf | zeroConf: what about setting proper permissions so users can't screw the system? |
| 13:00.12 | zeroConf | i think that ALL the computers are exactley the same ahrdware comboniation - ie, same MOBO same ethernet card, same hdd same graphics cards same mouse and keyboard.... |
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| 13:00.46 | ajavid | well yeah |
| 13:00.48 | ajavid | :) |
| 13:00.54 | ajavid | those are the essential parts of a computer :) |
| 13:01.01 | zeroConf | patrikf - i suggested that, but he said the internet cafe accross the street does that, and he gets all his business cause they dont allow people to do anything on the computers except hotmail, he allows everything except torrents... |
| 13:01.13 | ajavid | jeez |
| 13:01.20 | ajavid | you type faster than I do... |
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| 13:01.49 | ajavid | xeon-enouf, ^ |
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| 13:04.47 | g00se | Generally speaking, in Lenny, if a CDR is detected, which driver would be used? |
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| 13:18.43 | dsdeiz | ok, i quit. heheh i can't seem to make the site work with links2.. :( anyways, i think i would really need x for this. any suggestions in order to get 'x' without downloading all packages and burning them to cds? |
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| 13:19.12 | abrotman | dsdeiz: don't you have internet ? |
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| 13:20.22 | JarlG | Is it considered unwise to directly edit the sudoers file with a 'user ALL=(ALL) ALL' line? |
| 13:20.34 | dsdeiz | abrotman: on the pc where i'm installing debian, i was trying out links2 if it can get through my isp's web portal. |
| 13:20.51 | Lancien | quelqu'un parle francais j'ai besoin d'aide |
| 13:20.53 | dsdeiz | it requires me to login to their site unfortunately the site requires javascript and images :( |
| 13:20.55 | abrotman | dsdeiz: don't you have a router or something |
| 13:20.56 | abrotman | !fr |
| 13:20.56 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. French users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net. |
| 13:21.13 | abrotman | dsdeiz: could you use the PC you're currently on to share the internet ? |
| 13:22.19 | Lancien | Thanks! |
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| 13:23.23 | dsdeiz | uhm, no. i only transfer the line from this computer to the other one i'm installing debian too |
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| 13:25.04 | JarlG | xeon-enouf: user jarlg is member of group sudo, yet I am not listed in the sudoers file. I cannot use command sudo. :/ |
| 13:25.08 | abrotman | dsdeiz: did you try w3m ? |
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| 13:29.01 | dsdeiz | abrotman: no, not yet. i'll go try it |
| 13:29.10 | dsdeiz | hopefully, it has the same deps with links2. hehe |
| 13:29.26 | abrotman | should already be installed |
| 13:29.41 | dsdeiz | w3m? |
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| 13:31.55 | zeroConf | does linux have a TRY command - or do i just check $? after i said to do the command ? |
| 13:32.02 | zeroConf | for shell scripting |
| 13:32.51 | \amethyst | zeroConf: if ! command; then othercommand; fi or command || othercommand |
| 13:33.05 | \amethyst | zeroConf: assuming you want to run another command if the first one failed |
| 13:35.03 | tzafrir_laptop | zeroConf, you can check $? after every command. Alternativly handle errors the simple way: set -e |
| 13:35.15 | tzafrir_laptop | Which will make the script abort on error |
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| 13:39.04 | zeroConf | well, i wanted to collect error results through the script, basically i want to check if the mount command is successful before i try to copy files to a disk that might not be there, so i think ill just check $? this time... the other suggestios amethyst and tzafrir are good to keep in mind.... thanks |
| 13:40.34 | necro\ | kback |
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| 13:49.07 | xray7224 | im trying to install ssl-cert on a debian lenny machine and its getting error processing ssl-cert |
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| 13:53.15 | abrotman | xray7224: were you going to share the error ? |
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| 13:54.00 | xray7224 | http://pastebin.com/d255e3c54 |
| 13:54.07 | TrueDD | Hello ! |
| 13:54.43 | TrueDD | Hi all |
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| 13:55.37 | Owner | Would someone kindly point me in the right direction to pxe boot a livecd? i'm not after thinclients. i just want to cusomize a livecd and pxeboot it (combining pxe+nfs). I've played around with some ubuntu stuff and got their alternative install cds working but not the live ones (casper won't have it). has anyone done this? |
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| 13:56.15 | abrotman | how is it not a thinclient? |
| 13:56.42 | abrotman | xray7224: on the line after the shebang in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ssl-cert.postinst .. put a 'set -x' |
| 13:56.55 | abrotman | xray7224: then try again and show us the results |
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| 13:58.36 | xray7224 | http://pastebin.com/d799131bf |
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| 14:00.08 | Owner | abrotman: i want the client machine to boot its live env and run in locally. The server hosting pxe and nfs will be an m$ xp box.. |
| 14:02.36 | abrotman | xray7224: if you run the command 'make-ssl-cert generate-default-snakeoil' .. what error do you get ? |
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| 14:03.11 | xray7224 | nothing |
| 14:03.14 | xray7224 | it just runs |
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| 14:04.08 | abrotman | and it still won't install ? |
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| 14:04.41 | xray7224 | nope it wont install |
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| 14:07.54 | Dirrk | Owner: I know SystemRescueCD can do that (http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page). I'd look at how they do it, and imitate it. |
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| 14:13.51 | sylar | anyone knows if stlab SATA2 PCIe card are compatible with linux? |
| 14:14.02 | abrotman | xray7224: can you purge the package and then reinstall it ? |
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| 14:14.10 | abrotman | xray7224: dpkg -P ssl-cert |
| 14:14.23 | xray7224 | ok |
| 14:14.28 | abrotman | sylar: stlab is a company? be better if you knew the PCIID |
| 14:14.57 | zeroConf | ok i found an illogical bug while script bash |
| 14:15.08 | zeroConf | its in relation to setting variable content |
| 14:15.44 | sylar | abrotman, http://www.st-lab.com/products.asp |
| 14:15.58 | abrotman | sylar: still be easier if you had a PCIID |
| 14:16.12 | sylar | abrotman, PCIID? what is that? I know they have chips from silicon image there, but in their supported OS's they don't write linux, just windows |
| 14:16.50 | abrotman | sylar: try google perhaps to get the pciid (lspci -nn would show you pciids) |
| 14:17.25 | sylar | abrotman, I didn't buy it yet |
| 14:17.37 | abrotman | google still might know |
| 14:18.29 | sylar | trying |
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| 14:18.55 | xray7224 | abrotman, still errored |
| 14:19.10 | abrotman | xray7224: that's just seriously bizarre |
| 14:19.21 | xray7224 | mm |
| 14:19.44 | xray7224 | i know hardly anything about debian so im even more baffled |
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| 14:20.42 | abrotman | xray7224: in that file i mentioned earlier .. that line with the make-ssl-cert .. try adding a --force-overwrite to the end of the command |
| 14:20.54 | abrotman | (with a space to separate obviously) |
| 14:21.17 | sylar | abrotman, I don't find. Say, if the silicon image chip that it uses, is in the kernel, does that means that it would be supported? |
| 14:21.21 | xray7224 | ok |
| 14:21.32 | abrotman | sylar: should be, yes |
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| 14:21.51 | bolt | gah. screensaver stuff changed in squeeze again? i'm running xfce4, and i've done "xset s off", "xset dpms 0 0 0" and "xset -dpms", and the screen still blanks after a while! it didn't before my last update. |
| 14:22.10 | hicup | how do i upgrade my kernel? |
| 14:22.19 | azeem | hicup: why do you need an upgrade? |
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| 14:22.36 | xray7224 | abrotman, nope |
| 14:22.39 | hicup | b/c its old |
| 14:22.40 | xray7224 | still errors |
| 14:22.56 | azeem | hicup: which kernel do you have? |
| 14:23.30 | abrotman | xray7224: prepend the command with "strace " |
| 14:23.50 | hicup | 2.6.18 |
| 14:23.55 | hicup | on debian 5.0 |
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| 14:23.56 | abrotman | and yes, it will generate a bunch of output |
| 14:23.56 | xray7224 | do what |
| 14:24.02 | abrotman | hicup: what is your CPU ? |
| 14:24.07 | azeem | hicup: that is not the default kernel |
| 14:24.08 | abrotman | xray7224: to the beginning of the same line |
| 14:24.13 | xray7224 | o ok |
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| 14:24.22 | zeroConf | whats going on here please --- inside bash script with #!/bin/bash ---- |
| 14:24.22 | hicup | abrotman i cant remember whats in this thing |
| 14:24.22 | zeroConf | zzz=whatever" ---- xxx="$(df -h)" >> /dev/null ---- zzz.="$xxx" |
| 14:24.22 | zeroConf | note if i comment out the last line with the .= all is fine, but when i .= i get screen output... |
| 14:24.28 | abrotman | hicup: uname -r |
| 14:24.47 | abrotman | zeroConf: maybe you should be asking #bash |
| 14:24.47 | hicup | 2.6.18-128.1.1.el5.028stab062.3 |
| 14:24.54 | abrotman | that's a VPS kernel, don't think you want to change those |
| 14:24.54 | zeroConf | yea maybe a good idea abrotman |
| 14:25.14 | hicup | oh, ok.. |
| 14:25.20 | hicup | sorry for the trouble |
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| 14:25.59 | xray7224 | is there a pastebin tool in the repos ? |
| 14:26.10 | bolt | how can I stop the screen blanking in X on squeeze? |
| 14:26.42 | abrotman | xray7224: pastebinit |
| 14:26.51 | abrotman | bolt: terminal or X ? |
| 14:26.58 | xray7224 | thanks |
| 14:27.05 | bolt | abrotman: X |
| 14:27.15 | abrotman | !tell bolt about dmps |
| 14:27.18 | abrotman | !tell bolt about dpms |
| 14:27.36 | feisar | hi, just setting up my first debian server. In Gentoo I can run a command on shutdown '/etc/conf.d/local.stop'. Where can I run a command on shutdown in debian (it's to make sure woL is enabled) |
| 14:27.44 | bolt | abrotman: i've done "xset s off" "xset dpms 0 0 0" and "xset -dpms". this did the trick until my latest update today |
| 14:27.55 | bolt | abrotman: it suddenly started blanking again |
| 14:28.07 | abrotman | bolt: did you read the whole factoid ? |
| 14:28.20 | bolt | nope. will do. |
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| 14:28.38 | abrotman | feisar: you can look at /etc/init.d/skeleton .. then use update-rc.d to start/stop when you want |
| 14:28.52 | bolt | ah. it may not be on |
| 14:28.55 | abrotman | bolt: and if you're using gnome/kde .. they have applets to control that |
| 14:29.02 | xray7224 | how do i get it to pastebin this |
| 14:29.03 | bolt | abrotman: xfce4 |
| 14:29.14 | feisar | abrotman: ok thanks |
| 14:29.32 | abrotman | bolt: NFC if it has one |
| 14:29.57 | bolt | abrotman: doesnt look like it. i'll try the options thingy |
| 14:30.02 | abrotman | xray7224: you can dump the output to a file, and then upload the file to paste.debian.net .. see 'script' if you want to copy screen output |
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| 14:30.15 | xray7224 | ive dumped it in a file |
| 14:30.22 | xray7224 | ah dm |
| 14:30.23 | xray7224 | i got it |
| 14:31.27 | xeon-enouf | feisar: pretty sure WOL/WOMR was enabled whenever i shutdown normally, if enabled for iface and set in BIOS |
| 14:32.26 | xeon-enouf | feisar: typical, would be the 'shutdown' (accepts -h and -r, etc) and 'halt' commands, or 'reboot' |
| 14:32.57 | zeroConf | ok - so i wrote a small bash script i was going to run daily with cron - but then i thought, there is probably a system for this already, basically check that my disks are under 90% usage, and if are over, email me.... is there anything like that which exists already ? |
| 14:33.06 | zeroConf | or my own script is what i want ? |
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| 14:34.29 | azeem | zeroConf: there's monitoring systems like nagios, but those are probably overkill for you |
| 14:34.52 | abrotman | unless you've got a bunch of machiens you want to monitor |
| 14:34.52 | azeem | you could still snatch the check_disk check from nagios and run it in cron, dunno |
| 14:34.53 | zeroConf | yea - i dont think i need that much... ill go with the script once a day... :-) |
| 14:34.58 | xeon-enouf | feisar: or .. am i thinking only about when i took down the NIC iface, hrm.. 'ls /sys/classs/net' will show you ifaces (or ifconfig -a) and use ethtool to check for 'p u m b a g s' flags (IIRC) for NIC are enabled |
| 14:35.17 | xray7224 | ok prohaps i havn't get it |
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| 14:35.26 | xray7224 | strace make-ssl-cert generate-default-snakeoil --force-overwrite >> pastebin.txt |
| 14:35.34 | xray7224 | its not putting it in pastebin.txt |
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| 14:35.50 | abrotman | xray7224: see above where i was talkinga bout the script command |
| 14:35.50 | azeem | xray7224: add 2>&1 to the end |
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| 14:36.28 | zeroConf | for DISK in `df -h -t ext3 |awk {'print $5'} |grep -v Use|sed 's/%//'` - then putting my email string in ... once a day is fine, it could almost not even be in a script file but the entire line could just go into cron.... lol |
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| 14:36.45 | feisar | xeon-enouf: thanks, ethtool shows wake-on as disabled after a power cycle or reboot, even when I have run the command 'ethtool -s eth0 wol g' |
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| 14:37.10 | zeroConf | azeem - its @ http://www.pastie.org/615357 if you wanted to look at it... |
| 14:37.20 | Meiki | Hi which keyserver should I put my gpg key on? |
| 14:37.21 | xeon-enouf | feisar: also, see if 'file-rc' pkg suits you better (apt-cache show pkgname) than the typical runlevel-specific sysv init symlinks |
| 14:37.21 | zeroConf | simple yes - but thats how i like things... |
| 14:37.35 | xray7224 | http://pastebin.com/d146cccf6 =] |
| 14:37.38 | azeem | zeroConf: GNOME tells me when my paritions run full |
| 14:37.44 | azeem | partitions* |
| 14:37.45 | xeon-enouf | feisar: ok - hrm... |
| 14:37.57 | xray7224 | thats quite possibly the longest paste ive ever made |
| 14:38.12 | zeroConf | azeem - does it email you ? cause the idea is never to have to go to the server without reason... |
| 14:38.29 | zeroConf | the computer does not have X installed.... |
| 14:38.32 | feisar | xeon-enouf: so I need a way to make it permanent - although I haven't managed to wake the machine up yet at all |
| 14:38.54 | azeem | zeroConf: no, but it's not a server |
| 14:39.01 | Meiki | Hi which keyserver should I put my gpg key on? |
| 14:39.28 | azeem | xray7224: can you change it to "strace -f" and repaste, please? |
| 14:39.31 | xeon-enouf | feisar: are you sure WOL even works with that exact hardware? |
| 14:39.33 | asg | Meiki: whichever you wish ... put it on more than one |
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| 14:39.45 | Meiki | asg: arn't they all shared? |
| 14:39.48 | xray7224 | mmm |
| 14:39.52 | zeroConf | azeem - i understand that... i still live in cli, one day i will figure out what the whoo-har is all about in relation to GUI, but till then.... |
| 14:40.22 | feisar | xeon-enouf: it may not... maybe I'll just leave the machine on all the time |
| 14:40.22 | asg | Meiki: some are. Check their site rules to see if they are replicating. If they are then it doesn't matter which you put your key on. |
| 14:40.24 | xeon-enouf | feisar: i can't imagine it's a BIOS setting, unless you had some powersurge/failure in between ..aha! .. ok |
| 14:40.34 | Meiki | asg: is there a largest one |
| 14:40.36 | xeon-enouf | feisar: check BIOS settings |
| 14:40.38 | zeroConf | hey, how come someties when i restart i get errors about not flushing disks ? is there a manual command to flush disks ? |
| 14:40.42 | asg | Meiki: probably the one at MIT |
| 14:41.10 | feisar | xeon-enouf: it's enabled in the bios, thanks for the help, I might come back to this later :) |
| 14:41.22 | xeon-enouf | feisar: look for usual + look for something called PME (Power Management Enable)... and is ACPI loading/running properly? |
| 14:42.15 | feisar | xeon-enouf: I'll take a look, cheers |
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| 14:43.10 | xeon-enouf | feisar: no prob, otherwise - the NIC might just need that 2 or 3 wire cable connected to Mobo header for WoL... |
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| 14:44.42 | azeem | xray7224: are you pasting it screen by screen? |
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| 14:44.57 | xray7224 | huh |
| 14:45.02 | xray7224 | i dont get it |
| 14:45.03 | xeon-enouf | zeroConf: not sure this is applicable, but might want to look into using disk quotas and/or LVM for volume management |
| 14:45.13 | xray7224 | its a remoate ssh thingy |
| 14:45.23 | xray7224 | im having to deal with puttys shoddyness |
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| 14:45.45 | azeem | xray7224: you can use "pastebinit" to paste the file |
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| 14:46.11 | zeroConf | xeon - well i dont care who uses the disks, only that they flush.... so quotas isnt worth it is it ? |
| 14:46.21 | xray7224 | i dont get how :P |
| 14:46.25 | zeroConf | and ill look up lvm now - but if its anything like quotes i wont need it |
| 14:46.28 | xray7224 | i did it how id use wgetpaste and it didn't work |
| 14:46.35 | zeroConf | tell me about lvm |
| 14:46.51 | xeon-enouf | !tell zeroConf about msgthebot |
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| 14:48.06 | jbridge | whats the command to find out my ssl-path? |
| 14:48.15 | azeem | xray7224: how what? |
| 14:48.21 | jbridge | the program picks up /usr/local/ssl |
| 14:48.22 | zeroConf | lol xeon-enouf - i was going to msg it but so many screens so i went for the easy way that way i get bell in window # and can swap to it |
| 14:48.24 | jbridge | but its not installed there.. |
| 14:48.56 | xray7224 | azeem, to get pastebinit working |
| 14:49.10 | azeem | how is it not working? |
| 14:49.38 | xeon-enouf | jbridge: that's likely a $PATH issue |
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| 14:50.06 | xeon-enouf | jbridge: 'which openssl' |
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| 14:50.34 | xeon-enouf | jbridge: likewise 'whereis openssl' should show all binaries, and man pages |
| 14:50.46 | jbridge | which returns nothing.. |
| 14:50.56 | jbridge | user@x:~$ whereis openssl |
| 14:50.56 | jbridge | openssl: /usr/include/openssl |
| 14:50.59 | jbridge | so thats where it is? |
| 14:51.00 | xeon-enouf | oh .. then .. wait .. where? |
| 14:51.09 | xeon-enouf | no |
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| 14:51.29 | xeon-enouf | jbridge: uname -r says? |
| 14:51.48 | jbridge | 2.6.18-128.1.1.el5.028stab062.3 |
| 14:51.51 | jbridge | i'm the guy from earlier |
| 14:52.02 | jbridge | didnt realize my alt nick got picked up :] |
| 14:52.06 | xeon-enouf | jbridge: you're using RHEL ;-) |
| 14:52.13 | xeon-enouf | or CentOS |
| 14:52.13 | jbridge | RHEL? |
| 14:52.16 | azeem | no, he's running Debian in a DomU |
| 14:52.17 | jbridge | debian.. |
| 14:52.23 | xeon-enouf | um |
| 14:52.44 | xeon-enouf | jbridge: cat /proc/issue.net |
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| 14:52.56 | jbridge | cat: /proc/issue.net: No such file or directory |
| 14:53.04 | xeon-enouf | shit |
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| 14:53.09 | xeon-enouf | jbridge: cat /etc/issue.net |
| 14:53.24 | jbridge | Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 |
| 14:54.01 | xeon-enouf | obkb .. so dpkg -l libssl* | grep ^.i |
| 14:54.22 | jbridge | ii libssl-dev 0.9.8g-15+lenny3 SSL development libraries, header files and |
| 14:54.22 | jbridge | ii libssl0.9.8 0.9.8g-15+lenny3 SSL shared libraries |
| 14:54.39 | xeon-enouf | jbridge: please use a pastebin - now do dpkg -l openssl* |
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| 14:55.11 | hareth | hello |
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| 14:55.20 | hareth | if someone could help me to configure my bind9 |
| 14:55.24 | jbridge | http://www.pastebin.ca/1564258 |
| 14:55.29 | hareth | that's would be cool |
| 14:55.38 | hareth | http://pastebin.com/m4f007038 |
| 14:55.51 | xeon-enouf | jbridge: install openssl ;-) |
| 14:55.59 | jbridge | .....it is? |
| 14:56.02 | klotfare_ | how can i ping if the ping command is unavailable ? my net-install seems dead , no more packetes from the interface |
| 14:56.21 | xeon-enouf | jbridge: un openssl <none> (no description available) |
| 14:56.23 | abrotman | how do you not have the ping command ? |
| 14:56.40 | jbridge | libssl-dev is already the newest version. |
| 14:56.40 | jbridge | libssl0.9.8 is already the newest version. |
| 14:56.46 | jbridge | is what apt-get says |
| 14:56.50 | klotfare_ | im in the middle of the net-install procces |
| 14:56.58 | jbridge | so how could it not be installed? |
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| 14:57.41 | klotfare_ | and the proccess seems stuck , no activity on the network itnerface |
| 14:57.45 | azeem | jbridge: the libraries are installed, not the openssl binary |
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| 14:58.25 | jbridge | azeem how do i fix that?? |
| 14:58.36 | xeon-enouf | jbridge: see your paste - apt-get update ; apt-get install openssl (ahh crap, wtf? in Sid; apt-cache depends libssl0.9. shows Conflicts: openssl) yet all are installed here, heh |
| 14:58.49 | jbridge | sorry i'm not good with linux |
| 14:58.49 | azeem | if you think you need the openssl binaries, install the openssl package |
| 14:59.16 | xeon-enouf | judd: depends openssl --release lenny --arch i386 |
| 14:59.17 | azeem | xeon-enouf: likely a versioned conflicts for an older version |
| 14:59.17 | judd | xeon-enouf: openssl -- Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8f-5), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4) |
| 14:59.32 | jbridge | root@x:/home/user# whereis openssl |
| 14:59.32 | jbridge | openssl: /usr/bin/openssl /usr/include/openssl /usr/share/man/man1/openssl.1ssl.gz |
| 14:59.36 | jbridge | is that better now? |
| 14:59.39 | xeon-enouf | yep |
| 14:59.41 | jbridge | i did apt-get install openssl |
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| 15:00.06 | xray7224 | azeem, i don't know where to put the pastinit and if i need to put a pipe in between and stuff |
| 15:00.12 | xeon-enouf | azeem: hrm .. this was a debootstrap install of Testing, then dist-upgrade to sid ... |
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| 15:00.33 | jbridge | xeon-enouf so this application wants the sslpath.. what do i give it out of those 2 dirs? /usr/bin/openssl or /usr/include/openssl ?? |
| 15:01.02 | xeon-enouf | and just to correct myself,. it's libssl0.9.8 |
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| 15:01.12 | xeon-enouf | jbridge: /usr/bin/ |
| 15:01.17 | jbridge | ok |
| 15:01.20 | azeem | xray7224: didn't you redirect output to a file? |
| 15:01.27 | xray7224 | mmm |
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| 15:01.43 | xeon-enouf | jbridge: /usr/include/ is header files |
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| 15:03.06 | xeon-enouf | xray7224: you could try /msg dpkg pastebin pipe (as well) |
| 15:03.22 | jbridge | xeon-enouf i dont mean to sound like a dumbass.. but this is the question from the application (psybnc) |
| 15:03.29 | jbridge | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:03.41 | azeem | jbridge: are you trying to compile it? |
| 15:03.49 | xeon-enouf | jbridge: not familiar with it ... but yeah, i guess /usr/bin/ |
| 15:03.59 | jbridge | azeem yes. |
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| 15:04.14 | azeem | jbridge: then you probably need libssl-dev rather |
| 15:04.26 | xeon-enouf | jbridge: /usr/local/ is usually where self-compiled software goes ; but it's also 1st in PATH |
| 15:04.30 | azeem | and read that app's documentation on what exactly it expects where |
| 15:04.43 | jbridge | i have libssl-dev installed |
| 15:04.46 | jbridge | via apt-get .. |
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| 15:05.08 | jbridge | libssl-dev is already the newest version. |
| 15:05.09 | jbridge | ^ |
| 15:05.18 | xeon-enouf | jbridge: do you want a .deb? (BTW, why are you compiling?) |
| 15:05.29 | xeon-enouf | or is psybnc not in debian? |
| 15:06.03 | jbridge | its not available |
| 15:06.06 | xeon-enouf | jbridge: ./configure --help (heh) |
| 15:06.16 | xeon-enouf | or read INSTALL or README |
| 15:06.35 | jbridge | well i dont use ./configure |
| 15:06.38 | jbridge | use make menuconfig |
| 15:06.39 | jbridge | =/ |
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| 15:07.09 | xeon-enouf | heh, guess you're not configuring it - try autoconf ;-) |
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| 15:08.00 | azeem | jbridge: ask the psybnc people, please |
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| 15:09.00 | xeon-enouf | jbridge: keep in mind, you;ll likely need to have /usr/local/ listed in one of the various /etc/ld.so.conf{.d}/* files eventually, if you install psybnc there |
| 15:09.01 | xray7224 | http://pastebin.com/f55a07df8 |
| 15:09.03 | xray7224 | there we go =] |
| 15:09.10 | xray7224 | azeem, did it =] |
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| 15:10.00 | xeon-enouf | judd: if $ cat /etc/ld.so.conf.d/* shows /usr/local/lib you should be ok |
| 15:10.01 | judd | xeon-enouf: Error: "if" is not a valid command. |
| 15:10.14 | xeon-enouf | erm .. jbr.. |
| 15:10.39 | xeon-enouf | so much for tab-completion when the nick has left! :-p |
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| 15:11.39 | azeem | xray7224: what does "ls -l /etc/ssl" say? |
| 15:12.24 | xray7224 | how many lines can i paste here |
| 15:12.35 | azeem | 2-3 |
| 15:12.54 | xray7224 | http://pastebin.com/d6d1e6f91 |
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| 15:13.09 | azeem | xray7224: there you go |
| 15:13.16 | azeem | xray7224: did you manually change things in /etc/ssl? |
| 15:13.40 | xray7224 | nope |
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| 15:14.01 | xray7224 | tho ive just been given this server so the admin before might have |
| 15:14.05 | azeem | /etc/ssl/private is supposed to be a directory |
| 15:14.07 | azeem | eh. |
| 15:14.18 | xray7224 | its not my server i just admin it |
| 15:14.18 | xray7224 | its a server |
| 15:14.33 | azeem | no wonder the packages cannot write the file "/etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key" successfully |
| 15:14.40 | xray7224 | why |
| 15:14.44 | xray7224 | o ok |
| 15:14.52 | azeem | drwx--x--- 2 root ssl-cert 4096 Jul 11 2006 private/ |
| 15:15.01 | klotfare_ | my base system installation is stuck at "retrieving tar..." . im doind a net installation |
| 15:15.04 | azeem | change it to that, then try again |
| 15:15.17 | xray7224 | how ? |
| 15:15.22 | klotfare_ | any way to restart the process without going from the floppy installation again ? |
| 15:15.40 | azeem | klotfare_: floppy installation? |
| 15:15.52 | klotfare_ | yep , no cd no PXE card |
| 15:15.56 | azeem | xray7224: you are administrating a server and do not know how to do this? |
| 15:16.15 | xray7224 | shhh |
| 15:16.17 | azeem | xray7224: read the manpages for the following commands: rm, mkdir, chown, chmod |
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| 15:16.27 | xray7224 | i know how to chown and chmod suff |
| 15:16.32 | xray7224 | i just don't know what permissions you said |
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| 15:16.46 | azeem | that's explained in the chmod manpage AFAIK |
| 15:17.24 | zeroConf | tell xray7224 about chmod manpage |
| 15:17.25 | azeem | klotfare_: did it get to the language/keyboard selection? |
| 15:17.38 | klotfare_ | yes |
| 15:17.52 | azeem | zeroConf: that wasn't helpful |
| 15:18.15 | klotfare_ | im on the "installing the base system " on the installation of "retrieving tar .... " |
| 15:18.21 | klotfare_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:18.27 | azeem | did it retrieve the other packages fine? |
| 15:18.33 | azeem | are you installing lenny? |
| 15:18.33 | klotfare_ | yep |
| 15:18.40 | xray7224 | zeroConf, i know about man pages -_- |
| 15:18.48 | klotfare_ | no , etch |
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| 15:19.04 | abrotman | klotfare_: why? |
| 15:19.27 | klotfare_ | abrotman:not so much space |
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| 15:19.31 | klotfare_ | 4 gb of disk |
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| 15:19.42 | abrotman | so what? that's plenty |
| 15:19.44 | Mick27 | hey all, where can I find infos on the proposed update repo ? |
| 15:19.57 | hid3nax | Hello everyone. I'm being SYNflooded to my webserver at port 80. How can I find out what length packets arrive so I might be able to stop the attack with iptables? I guess I need tcpdump but I'm not very familiar with it... |
| 15:20.11 | klotfare_ | im using wireshark on another pc and it doest send/receive anyother packets except ping that im using on a windows pc |
| 15:20.12 | abrotman | !proposed-updates |
| 15:20.12 | dpkg | proposed-updates are intended fixes for the <stable> distribution, which require extensive testing before being accepted (see <point releases>). Ask me about <errata> to install. http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/resources#s4.6.4 |
| 15:20.16 | abrotman | Mick27: ^^ |
| 15:20.30 | abrotman | klotfare_: because it's stuck .. you don't have the keys it needs to install |
| 15:20.35 | abrotman | klotfare_: install lenny |
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| 15:20.42 | abrotman | !tell klotfare_ about 5% error |
| 15:20.54 | syslq78_ | http://pastebin.com/m3cf4974d <-- can somebody tell me what is wrong? (it's one liner) |
| 15:21.07 | syslq78_ | mv should rename files |
| 15:21.37 | zeroConf | shuts up - sorry |
| 15:21.49 | abrotman | syslq78_: you don't know how to spell "picture" ? |
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| 15:22.12 | syslq78_ | abrotman, I have translated it quickly that's not it |
| 15:22.23 | abrotman | syslq78_: if you unquote $COUNTER.jpg ? |
| 15:22.56 | syslq78_ | abrotman, same thing |
| 15:23.27 | klotfare_ | abrotman: i dont think is a key problem, i found a file 208 kb named tar_1.16....deb on /target/var/cache/apt/archives/partial |
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| 15:23.40 | klotfare_ | so it has downloaded some kb from the tar archive |
| 15:23.45 | abrotman | syslq78_: can you show us 'echo *.jpg' in a pastebin ? |
| 15:23.59 | syslq78_ | abrotman, sure |
| 15:24.38 | abrotman | klotfare_: i'm going to keep telling you to install lenny |
| 15:24.49 | syslq78_ | abrotman, http://pastebin.com/m2bc79375 |
| 15:24.51 | klotfare_ | but i cant find floppies for lenny |
| 15:24.58 | abrotman | oh ffs ... |
| 15:25.16 | klotfare_ | and i have only 192 mb of ram |
| 15:25.20 | xeon-enouf | hid3nax: pretty sure you can use wireshark to format tcpdump output (once you use proper tcpdump options) .. but you want the length of packet? or IP addresses? my $35 router can even log/block DDoS attacks on it's own |
| 15:25.35 | abrotman | syslq78_: sorry .. meant `ls -la *.jpg` |
| 15:25.56 | syslq78_ | abrotman, moment |
| 15:25.56 | klotfare_ | how can i install lenny ? |
| 15:26.17 | abrotman | klotfare_: nevermind .. no bf for lenny .. |
| 15:26.47 | syslq78_ | abrotman, http://pastebin.com/m69f2e1fb |
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| 15:28.03 | klotfare_ | any help than ? |
| 15:28.34 | azeem | syslq78_: the problems are the spaces in the files |
| 15:29.37 | syslq78_ | azeem, solution? |
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| 15:29.44 | syslq78_ | azeem, please I mean |
| 15:29.46 | hid3nax | xeon-enouf: well, I'm running debian and don't own a $35 router ;-) There are LOTS of different IP adresses commin here but I'm almost sure they all send SYNs with the same size. I just need to know the SYN size so I'll be able to drop packets easily with -m length match |
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| 15:30.36 | abrotman | syslq78_: quote the filenames |
| 15:30.49 | abrotman | klotfare_: did you look in the debug console of the installer ? |
| 15:31.06 | syslq78_ | abrotman, I mean script solution :) |
| 15:31.10 | klotfare_ | no info . it seems that the donwload is stoped |
| 15:31.12 | xeon-enouf | hid3nax: interesting ; try ##networking |
| 15:31.13 | abrotman | syslq78_: that is ? |
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| 15:31.51 | syslq78_ | abrotman, I did thanks |
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| 15:32.28 | azeem | klotfare_: maybe a networking problem? |
| 15:32.54 | klotfare_ | the ping is ok |
| 15:33.00 | klotfare_ | the internet is ok too , |
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| 15:33.45 | sandman | In both my desktop installation and in the virtualmachine running on said system, debian lenny's gnome applet "screen resolution" has absolutely nothing in its drop-down |
| 15:33.55 | elli222 | Hi, im trying to get some 32 bit open GL programs working, but nearly all of them segfault |
| 15:33.58 | sandman | That leads me to believe that is the default. |
| 15:34.05 | xeon-enouf | syslq78_: /msg dpkg using find (then use with -exec mv '{}' '{file##}' \; or something - depending on your want/needs) |
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| 15:34.39 | elli222 | So i took a look in ubuntu's nvidia package, and it seems the 64 bit one ships with 32 bit libs |
| 15:34.57 | syslq78_ | xeon-enouf, I solved it, thanks |
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| 15:35.52 | sandman | Well, anyway. Is there another way to change the resolutions in a user-friendly way? |
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| 15:36.53 | abrotman | elli222: are you running ubuntu? |
| 15:36.58 | elli222 | nope |
| 15:37.28 | abrotman | so you thought installing an ubuntu package on debian was a good idea .. why? |
| 15:37.34 | elli222 | uhh |
| 15:37.34 | Mick27 | abrotman, thx |
| 15:37.36 | elli222 | i didnt |
| 15:37.48 | abrotman | oh .. a look in .. ignore me .. carry on! |
| 15:37.58 | abrotman | runs away |
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| 15:38.27 | elli222 | i just copied over a few 32 bit libraries, and symlinked them |
| 15:38.34 | tzafrir_laptop | You have a 64bit system? |
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| 15:38.51 | elli222 | and before you ask, YES i put them in /usr/lib32 |
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| 15:39.26 | elli222 | hmm, i just had a thought |
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| 15:43.37 | xeon-enouf | sandman: perhaps your xorg.conf needs various DisplaySize / resolution lines, or modelines |
| 15:44.03 | xeon-enouf | sandman: is that Lenny? cat /etc/issue.net |
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| 15:46.28 | xeon-enouf | sandman: grep drv /var/log/Xorg.0.log (to see X drivers) ; /msg dpkg xrandr ; man xorg.conf ; man cvt |
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| 15:47.13 | cusco | hi |
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| 15:54.27 | _AnywhereIs_ | guys... does someone have issue that xfdesktop process eats TOOO much RAM after some uptime... i guess, a week. maybe it's just now, i didn't rebooted from last time i installed it. i use lenny 5.0.1 and xfce4 from original DVD. everything would be fine xcpt for that RAM eating due to which i need to logout every week to free RAM. |
| 15:54.31 | sandman | xeon-enouf: Looks like it's detecting my GeForce 7000M as needing a vesa driver. |
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| 15:54.36 | sandman | xeon-enouf: I suppose that's why. |
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| 15:55.42 | _AnywhereIs_ | for now it ate 500M, i only have 2G and no swap. it slows down everything.. :D |
| 15:55.43 | hphubert | hi |
| 15:56.14 | hphubert | do You know a system for managment debian server by www? |
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| 15:57.22 | xeon-enouf | sandman: vesa_drv.so from X is very limited, but should do a few resolutions - try 'nv' |
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| 15:57.56 | _AnywhereIs_ | hphubert: define www |
| 15:58.02 | xeon-enouf | (unless a 7000M is too new?) mannv |
| 15:58.06 | xeon-enouf | er man nv |
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| 15:58.12 | silidan | hi, i have an ati mobility 9000, can someone tell me what packages i do have to install to get 3d acceleration ? (debian lenny) |
| 15:58.22 | Thms | Hello, I'm trying to configure my Asus DH remote control to use it with debian, but I have a problem, dmesg tell me its the hiddev97, but Ive no /dev/hiddev* at all. why ? |
| 15:58.32 | hphubert | by www browser |
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| 15:58.43 | xeon-enouf | silidan: /msg dpkg fglrx (and pray ;-)) |
| 15:59.36 | valdyn | elli222: 32-bit libGL is in the package ia32-libs, dont symlink things from elsewhere |
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| 16:00.17 | xeon-enouf | Thms: is that a laptop? perhaps info from "/msg dpkg laptop" might help - you sure udev would name it /dev/hid* ? |
| 16:00.26 | silidan | xeon-enouf: unknown command /msg |
| 16:00.38 | abrotman | it's an IRC command |
| 16:00.44 | xeon-enouf | Thms: aren't remote controls LIRC, and /dev/irX or something? |
| 16:00.58 | xeon-enouf | !lirc |
| 16:00.58 | dpkg | [lirc] Linux Infrared Remote Control. It is a package providing the ability to send and receive infrared signals. http://lirc.org/faq.html #lirc on irc.freenode.net. |
| 16:00.58 | hark | silidan: you don't need fglrx for that afaik. just install xorg |
| 16:01.21 | xeon-enouf | silidan: hark ahh .. crap. forgot about radeon/radeonhd |
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| 16:01.49 | Thms | xeon-enouf: I found it in /dev/usb, thanks anyway |
| 16:01.56 | xeon-enouf | silidan: radeon/radeonhd are xorg drivers, and have their own channels, see wiki.x.org IIRC ..ahh one sec |
| 16:02.03 | xeon-enouf | !radeon vs radeonhd |
| 16:02.03 | dpkg | The <radeon> project started under a non-disclosure agreement with ATI to develop <free software> drivers for Radeon graphics cards. In 2007, after ATI released its documentation, a second project, <radeonhd>, was started from scratch with a focus on newer hardware. Differences and similarities can be found at: http://x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature and http://x.org/wiki/radeon#head-7b2a81f777639f8e12c9ac08a1e31d4c4bee9ef5 |
| 16:02.20 | xeon-enouf | Thms: heh |
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| 16:02.51 | xeon-enouf | Thms: in that case lsusb -v might help for something :-) |
| 16:03.39 | silidan | hark: xorg is installed! but i have no 3d acceleration |
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| 16:04.19 | xeon-enouf | silidan: grep drv /var/log/Xorg.0.log | egrep 'ati|radeon' |
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| 16:04.51 | abrotman | wouldn't just grepping for ati/radeon be enough ? |
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| 16:05.24 | xeon-enouf | abrotman: afraid of way too many lines |
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| 16:05.55 | hark | silidan: pastebin your Xorg.0.log file |
| 16:06.20 | xeon-enouf | i guess one could egrep 'vesa_drv|ati_drv|radeon_drv|radeonhd_drv' or something ... |
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| 16:07.14 | hark | silidan: is it an old laptop? |
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| 16:07.28 | Swistaczek | Hello |
| 16:07.42 | Swistaczek | How to send message to all users logged on ssh in debian? |
| 16:07.46 | abrotman | wall |
| 16:08.06 | silidan | xorg log http://pastebin.com/d38c2844d |
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| 16:08.20 | silidan | hark: kinda |
| 16:08.26 | g00se | Is it still necessary in Lenny to use boot parameters to get the kernel to treat a CDRW as a SCSI device? |
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| 16:08.45 | silidan | hark: pentium 4 2.5 GHz with an ati mobility 9000 |
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| 16:09.52 | hark | yeah, around 2003 |
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| 16:11.53 | hark | silidan: what does uname -r say? |
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| 16:13.31 | SuperMiguel | did the dev team released a date yet for debian 6? |
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| 16:13.41 | hark | silidan: forget it, just install firmware-linux. it's in non-free |
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| 16:16.31 | silidan | hark: ok installed it will now reboot |
| 16:17.09 | xeon-enouf | g00se: it never was for me |
| 16:17.26 | xeon-enouf | judd: info firmware-linux |
| 16:17.30 | hark | you don't have to reboot |
| 16:19.15 | elli222 | hmm |
| 16:19.26 | dutchfish | a small question, do we have a curent dependecy problem in squeeze/x86 regarding libgl1-mesa-dri/glx ? |
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| 16:19.48 | eject_ck | Hi all, can I get Xen on Squeeze ? |
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| 16:19.56 | eject_ck | Dom0 |
| 16:20.10 | elli222 | i think it should be more clear that the nvidia-glx-ia32 package should be for amd64 systems :P |
| 16:20.10 | azeem | dutchfish: apparently so, somebody else reported it as well |
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| 16:20.50 | Thms | Why doesnt IRKIck doenst display my amarok in the application list? |
| 16:20.52 | NoCode | Does anyone know a tutorial on how I can get my tablet working in Lenny? |
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| 16:21.03 | elli222 | ive spent ages decompressing packages and comparing them, until i noticed that the "ia32" package only supported amd64... |
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| 16:21.22 | g00se | xeon-enouf: No - i think i'm getting there. CDRW on Linux quite new to me. When you tell it to record, what kind of command do you use (i'm interested principally in how you address the disk [i can man cdrecord for myself]) |
| 16:21.30 | dutchfish | azeem, ok, found out that there is another one related to mysql-client-5.0, i have now 2 versions as possibility, but that was ease to fix |
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| 16:21.44 | dutchfish | azeem, thanks |
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| 16:22.26 | dutchfish | azeem, the first one is harder because it depends on xserver-xorg |
| 16:23.22 | dutchfish | azeem, already solved, it got hinted already, needs abit time befor emy repos pick it up |
| 16:23.33 | dutchfish | azeem, thanks again |
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| 16:24.40 | silidan | hark: thank you the firmware-linux did the trick |
| 16:24.41 | cydork | !ops Winamp is onjoin spambot |
| 16:24.41 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: cydork complains about: Winamp is onjoin spambot |
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| 16:24.52 | dutchfish | azeem, correction its not hinted already http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/points.html |
| 16:25.07 | cydork | hmm that was fast.. |
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| 16:28.14 | xeon-enouf | g00se: wodim |
| 16:28.34 | xeon-enouf | g00se: wodim replaces / is debian fork of cdrecord |
| 16:29.10 | hark | silidan: np |
| 16:29.15 | xeon-enouf | g00se: wodim dev=/dev/name (or use dev=0,0,x <-scsi style, not needed lately) |
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| 16:29.26 | Esine | Hey. Anyone know how to print a tiff from a command line? this is Linux with Cups |
| 16:29.59 | xeon-enouf | did i kill judd? with that info query? |
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| 16:30.11 | abrotman | judd: kernels |
| 16:30.13 | judd | abrotman: Available kernel versions are: trunk: 2.6.31-rc6-686 (2.6.31~rc6-1~experimental.1~snapshot.14160); sid: 2.6.30-1-686 (2.6.30-6); squeeze: 2.6.30-1-686 (2.6.30-6); lenny-backports: 2.6.30-bpo.1-686 (2.6.30-6~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-17); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.8etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-24) |
| 16:30.17 | xeon-enouf | Esine: lpr < filename.tiff ? |
| 16:30.29 | Esine | does that work? |
| 16:30.48 | xeon-enouf | Esine: works for my text docs |
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| 16:31.08 | Esine | ok. |
| 16:31.22 | Esine | umm |
| 16:31.31 | Esine | xeon-enouf: but a TIFF is a picture |
| 16:31.36 | Esine | not text |
| 16:32.12 | xeon-enouf | Esine: see lpoptions as well - there's a option not listed, it's; cpi=xx where cpi == chars per inch, and anything from like 16-20 should be decent |
| 16:32.18 | silidan | next problem, my sound is crippled ( it works fine on winxp) i have an gericom masterpiece xl, and it has a sis ac97 sound controller... any ideas how to fix it ( sound is stuttering heavily) |
| 16:32.19 | g00se | xeon-enouf: Yes, actually man cdrecord is actually man wodim. What's really confusing me is that these devices are not mounted as such(?) |
| 16:32.19 | xeon-enouf | Esine: and? |
| 16:32.35 | justin | xeon-enouf: that should just be |
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| 16:32.42 | justin | xeon-enouf: that should just be 'lpr file' heh |
| 16:32.52 | justin | xeon-enouf: no need to make it read from stdin |
| 16:33.01 | xeon-enouf | g00se: not mounted as such what? dmesg | grep ATAPI ( or egrep 'hd|scd|sr|sd') |
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| 16:33.17 | xeon-enouf | justin: heh - ok then ;-) |
| 16:33.20 | silidan | im on debian lenny and lspci gives: Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0) |
| 16:33.50 | xeon-enouf | silidan: lspci -nn says abuot that line? |
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| 16:34.16 | xeon-enouf | silidan: install alsa alsa-utils alsa-oss ? |
| 16:34.29 | xeon-enouf | silidan: /msg dpkg alsa checklist |
| 16:34.56 | xeon-enouf | silidan: /msg dpkg soundcheck |
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| 16:35.56 | xeon-enouf | g00se: grep cdrom /etc/fstab too;-) |
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| 16:36.36 | silidan | 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller [1039:7012] (rev a0) |
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| 16:36.44 | xeon-enouf | g00se: cat /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info ... RW drives are not different to the kernel than ROM drives |
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| 16:37.01 | xeon-enouf | judd: pciid 1039:7012 |
| 16:37.02 | judd | xeon-enouf: [1039:7012] is 'AC'97 Sound Controller' from 'Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]' with kernel module 'snd-intel8x0' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1039:7012 http://wiki.debian.org/slmodem |
| 16:37.16 | xeon-enouf | silidan: so, lsmod should show snd-intel8x0 |
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| 16:37.52 | xeon-enouf | eww , it doubles as a modem .. heh |
| 16:38.08 | xeon-enouf | (or vice-versa :-P) |
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| 16:39.04 | silidan | xeon-enouf: but you see it doesnt |
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| 16:39.21 | xeon-enouf | silidan: oh .. sorry - you mentioned it's working, but 'stuttering' .. what CPU, how much RAM, which player? what types of files? mp3? AudioCD? flashcrap? |
| 16:39.59 | g00se | xeon: There is indeed an entry in fstab. It's not mounted though, and if i do mount -a it's still not (apparently) mounted ... |
| 16:40.01 | xeon-enouf | silidan: /msg dpkg ask (should help us to help you) |
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| 16:40.15 | xeon-enouf | g00se: AudioCDs don't get mounted |
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| 16:40.23 | xeon-enouf | g00se: neither do blanks |
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| 16:41.03 | xeon-enouf | i never use mount -a .. is your user part of the 'audio' and 'cdrom' groups? how about you post some info i mentioned |
| 16:41.16 | silidan | cpu p4 2,5 GHz 512 mb ram, vlc , everyfile i tried mostly mp3... even the system sounds do stutter, and pidgin sounds... everything |
| 16:41.17 | xeon-enouf | g00se: is that a USB drive? |
| 16:41.28 | q_p | What kinf of package is wnpp? I was trying to see if OneSwarm was a part of Debian and found this http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=525059 but aptitude show wnpp tells me nothing of this package. |
| 16:41.30 | xeon-enouf | silidan: ouch .. something is amiss |
| 16:41.44 | silidan | xeon-enouf: no shit ? :) |
| 16:41.58 | g00se | xeon-enouf: Sorry - didn't know you wanted info. That might be it then - i just blanked it as my first attempt at anything ;-) |
| 16:42.02 | xeon-enouf | silidan: cat /etc/issue.net |
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| 16:42.27 | silidan | empti |
| 16:42.35 | silidan | xeon-enouf: empty |
| 16:42.37 | xeon-enouf | g00se: you could do say; wodim -atip -prcap dev=/dev/cdromX or whatever |
| 16:42.49 | xeon-enouf | silidan: cat /proc/version |
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| 16:43.24 | silidan | Linux version 2.6.30-1-686 (Debian 2.6.30-6) (waldi@debian.org) (gcc version 4.3.4 (Debian 4.3.4-1) ) #1 SMP Sat Aug 15 19:11:58 UTC 2009 |
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| 16:43.36 | xeon-enouf | silidan: so not even backports |
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| 16:43.49 | xeon-enouf | silidan: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 16:43.55 | silidan | sid |
| 16:43.57 | g00se | xeon-enouf: I'm doing everything pro-tem with sudo |
| 16:44.03 | icke_ | hello, is it possible to use ath9k-module with standard debian-kernel 2.6.26? |
| 16:44.14 | silidan | sqeeze/sid |
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| 16:44.25 | silidan | xeon-enouf: squeeze/sid |
| 16:44.34 | xeon-enouf | silidan: that should be fine then .. not sure whatthe issue is, but alsaconf is long gone ..is snd-intel8x0 loaded? |
| 16:44.46 | xeon-enouf | !ath9k |
| 16:44.47 | dpkg | [ath9k] a completely free (no proprietary HAL) driver for Atheros 802.11 draft-n PCI wireless LAN chipsets. Included in the mainline kernel since 2.6.27-rc3. Lenny users: ask me about <backports.org> to install a later kernel image containing this driver. For USB 802.11n device support, ask me about <ar9170usb>. http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k |
| 16:45.03 | silidan | xeon-enouf: how can i tell? dmesg? |
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| 16:45.18 | xeon-enouf | icke_: you _could_ just use a backports kernel with Lenny (.30) |
| 16:45.20 | g00se | xeon-enouf: If i were to write something to it now (what would be the quickest test?) and *then* mount -a, it should get mounted - no? |
| 16:45.27 | xeon-enouf | silidan: i told you how |
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| 16:45.39 | silidan | intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 55266 usecs (33 samples)intel8x0: measured clock 597 rejected |
| 16:45.42 | icke_ | xeon-enouf: thx, but then i have problems with other programs such as virtualbox and so on... |
| 16:45.48 | xeon-enouf | g00se: use -dummy option first - well, that's good for CD-R |
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| 16:46.02 | xeon-enouf | g00se: not sure about mount -a |
| 16:46.11 | icke_ | xeon-enouf: (i try .30 yet and it function) |
| 16:46.12 | xeon-enouf | g00se: are isofs and udf loaded? |
| 16:46.21 | silidan | xeon-enouf: you did?, when? |
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| 16:46.23 | g00se | xeon-enouf: I'll check |
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| 16:46.37 | xeon-enouf | 16:29 < xeon-enouf> silidan: so, lsmod should show snd-intel8x0 |
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| 16:47.13 | xeon-enouf | judd: pciid 1039:7012 --release sid |
| 16:47.15 | judd | xeon-enouf: [1039:7012] is 'AC'97 Sound Controller' from 'Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]' with kernel module 'snd-intel8x0' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1039:7012 http://wiki.debian.org/slmodem |
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| 16:47.18 | xeon-enouf | same |
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| 16:47.24 | g00se | xeon-enouf: isofs is, not udf |
| 16:47.30 | silidan | snd_intel8x0 26584 0 |
| 16:47.42 | silidan | xeon-enouf: yes it does snd_intel8x0 26584 0 |
| 16:48.00 | xeon-enouf | g00se: all depends on which FStype you're on, make sure both are listed in options part of line in fstab |
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| 16:48.15 | SuperMiguel | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.16 | xeon-enouf | silidan: cat /proc/asound/cards |
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| 16:48.24 | xeon-enouf | SuperMiguel: huh? |
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| 16:48.48 | silidan | 0 [SI7012 ]: ICH - SiS SI7012 |
| 16:48.48 | silidan | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.49 | xeon-enouf | SuperMiguel: you mean direct upload? /msg dpkg pastebin pipe (use pastebinit perhaps) |
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| 16:49.12 | `nes | filebin |
| 16:49.13 | g00se | xeon-enouf: Both list as udf,iso9660 |
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| 16:49.22 | silidan | xeon-enouf: 0 [SI7012 ]: ICH - SiS SI7012 |
| 16:49.23 | silidan | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:49.25 | xeon-enouf | silidan: good - i don't know what's wrong .. try mplayer? xine? go into VLC options? |
| 16:49.56 | silidan | i dont think it is the player, bacause the sounds of pidgin are also stuttering... |
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| 16:50.07 | xeon-enouf | silidan: ahh .. righto |
| 16:50.15 | SuperMiguel | xeon-enouf, like i have a file that i want to upload, and then use wget to get it.. |
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| 16:50.33 | xeon-enouf | SuperMiguel: i use what i told you |
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| 16:50.54 | SuperMiguel | xeon-enouf, what u told me? pastebinit.com doesnt exist :S |
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| 16:51.04 | xeon-enouf | SuperMiguel: hehe - it's a pkgname |
| 16:51.13 | xeon-enouf | read the /msg output |
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| 16:51.24 | pablo_ | somebody can help me? I want to compile the kernel to my debian |
| 16:51.31 | xeon-enouf | !tell SuperMiguel -about pastebin pipe |
| 16:51.45 | xeon-enouf | !kernel compile |
| 16:51.45 | dpkg | kernel compile is, like, To (re)build the official kernels, see http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage ; for personal kernel packages it is simpler to just use <make-kpkg> |
| 16:52.03 | xeon-enouf | pablo_: /msg dpkg make-kpkg |
| 16:52.14 | xeon-enouf | pablo_: /msg dpkg kp mantra |
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| 16:52.53 | SuperMiguel | xeon-enouf, thanks sir |
| 16:52.58 | `nes | kp mantra? o.o |
| 16:53.05 | `nes | Nice script |
| 16:53.14 | silidan | damnit gtg ill ba back |
| 16:53.16 | pablo_ | xeon-enouf what's this? |
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| 16:53.23 | fanuc98 | How do I completely exit my Xserver and run from tty prompt? |
| 16:53.31 | g00se | xeon-enouf: Do you think failure of mount -a might be something to do with udf not being loaded |
| 16:53.35 | xeon-enouf | fanuc98: ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 16:53.40 | fanuc98 | ty |
| 16:53.47 | k|t | pidgin 2.6 is a challenge... |
| 16:54.00 | xeon-enouf | fanuc98: that won't necessarily kill your Xserver if using a DM though |
| 16:54.00 | fanuc98 | Installing Nvidia drivers...wish me luck. lol :) |
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| 16:54.15 | fanuc98 | DM? |
| 16:54.18 | xeon-enouf | fanuc98: oh - then '/etc/init.d/*dm stop' |
| 16:54.22 | xeon-enouf | !dm |
| 16:54.22 | dpkg | DM means Display Manager, the app that brings up a graphical login screen and starts your login session. <xdm>, <gdm>, <kdm>, <wdm>, pdm, login.app and <slim> are all examples of display managers. Ask me about <nodm> if you want to disable the DM. Or Debian Maintainer: http://wiki.debian.org/Maintainers |
| 16:54.36 | xeon-enouf | fanuc98: could ctrl-alt-backspace perhaps |
| 16:55.01 | xeon-enouf | g00se: depends |
| 16:55.24 | xeon-enouf | !nei |
| 16:55.24 | dpkg | Not Enough Information. If you don't give us enough information to even begin to see what your problem is, there's no way we will be able to help you at all. |
| 16:55.40 | xeon-enouf | dpkg: you're so smart ;-) |
| 16:55.40 | dpkg | xeon-enouf: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 16:55.56 | xeon-enouf | !8ball is dpkg smart? |
| 16:55.56 | dpkg | Please ask again. |
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| 16:56.01 | xeon-enouf | haha |
| 16:56.05 | g00se | xeon-enouf: I'll check in the log |
| 16:56.46 | xeon-enouf | g00se: post some info! :-P |
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| 16:57.45 | xeon-enouf | g00se: to help me search wodim options and locate them easily via keyword, i use alias wodimh='wodim --help 2>&1 | less' |
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| 16:58.26 | xeon-enouf | g00se: then you can searchthrough all (most actually, not driveropts, not blank .. etc) the options easily |
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| 16:58.29 | BriOnLinux | Eyo |
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| 16:58.44 | NoCode | Woooooo, got my tablet working in Lenny |
| 16:58.58 | BriOnLinux | Is there a way to tab through programs like alt-* where 8 is number |
| 16:59.00 | xeon-enouf | is naked |
| 16:59.05 | xeon-enouf | ooops |
| 16:59.11 | BriOnLinux | Someone answer mah question |
| 16:59.22 | sandman | So I read that someone proposed that Debian have a regular release schedule. |
| 16:59.22 | xeon-enouf | BriOnLinux: please? |
| 16:59.34 | g00se | xeon-enouf: I'm mainly concerned with the lack of mounting. What info do you want - i'll give it to you? |
| 16:59.39 | xeon-enouf | sandman: yeah, see the debian-project mailing list |
| 16:59.48 | xeon-enouf | g00se: anything! |
| 16:59.55 | sandman | xeon-enouf: Am I the only one who, although I'm an "outsider", sees this as a very bad idea? |
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| 17:00.15 | xeon-enouf | sandman: no, you're not alone |
| 17:00.22 | abrotman | BriOnLinux: uh what? |
| 17:00.23 | sandman | Yeah. |
| 17:00.28 | sandman | I hope that doesn't happen. |
| 17:00.39 | sandman | I could see that as being the end of Debian as we know it. |
| 17:00.40 | g00se | xeon-enouf: Here's fstab http://pastebin.com/f4cac96e3 |
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| 17:00.55 | xeon-enouf | sandman: let's not go there atm .. please ;-) |
| 17:00.56 | sandman | But who knows, I could be wrong. But yeah, as just a lowly user of Debian, I'd like to say I'm worried about that. |
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| 17:01.05 | sandman | Very much. |
| 17:01.08 | BriOnLinux | Is there a way to tab through my programs such as alt-1 to open the first window on the bottom bar, alt-2 for second, and so on. EG like Firefox tab management |
| 17:01.22 | abrotman | like .. 'screen' ? |
| 17:01.25 | xeon-enouf | g00se: some other output (dmesg | grep ... ; /proc/sys/../../) |
| 17:01.35 | azeem | BriOnLinux: like alt-tab? |
| 17:01.38 | xeon-enouf | g00se: wodim -scan or whatever |
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| 17:01.50 | BriOnLinux | I don't want to move through the alt-tab menu, That's too slow. |
| 17:02.05 | sandman | xeon-enouf: Well, if you insist. I feel like people should really be talking about it, though. |
| 17:02.10 | BriOnLinux | I want to be able to alt-9, for example, and have it maximize to the ninth program on my bottom programs bar |
| 17:02.13 | xeon-enouf | g00se: fstab looks good - yuo gjave TWO drives |
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| 17:02.29 | azeem | BriOnLinux: did you even mention which desktop environment you are using? |
| 17:02.34 | xeon-enouf | g00se: so named cdrom0 and cdrom1 -- see if /dev/cdrom is a symlink .. and to what |
| 17:02.35 | meder | Gnome |
| 17:02.36 | zkl | Bri: it totally depends on your wm |
| 17:02.43 | meder | he's using Gnome |
| 17:02.49 | abrotman | how does meder know? |
| 17:02.51 | BriOnLinux | I'm using TortureRax |
| 17:02.55 | xeon-enouf | abrotman: heh |
| 17:02.56 | meder | because I'm a psychic |
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| 17:03.00 | abrotman | wtf is torturerax ? |
| 17:03.03 | g00se | xeon-enouf: Here's the scan http://pastebin.com/f27ed38a2 |
| 17:03.08 | xeon-enouf | !8ball is meder psychic? |
| 17:03.08 | dpkg | Absolutely. |
| 17:03.12 | BriOnLinux | It's true. |
| 17:03.15 | BriOnLinux | I am using gnome. |
| 17:03.39 | azeem | BriOnLinux: so you were lying when you said you were using TortureRax? |
| 17:03.40 | abrotman | BriOnLinux: on which version of linux ? |
| 17:03.44 | BriOnLinux | UBUNTU |
| 17:03.48 | xeon-enouf | sandman: i do too.. been there; done that; got the soapbox t-shirt :-) |
| 17:04.06 | xeon-enouf | BriOnLinux: please see #ubuntu |
| 17:04.06 | abrotman | BriOnLinux: you want to go to #ubuntu or ##linux for support |
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| 17:04.51 | BriOnLinux | Does Debian have it? I might switch. |
| 17:04.54 | g00se | xeon-enouf: Here's the links http://pastebin.com/f38851932 |
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| 17:06.31 | BriOnLinux | Ubuntu is full of nubs such as myself. |
| 17:06.36 | BriOnLinux | So I need an answer here. |
| 17:06.43 | BriOnLinux | No one will answer me on that channel. |
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| 17:07.00 | azeem | BriOnLinux: we don't support Ubuntu here |
| 17:07.08 | NoCode | Tablet is functioning really well in Lenny now. :D |
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| 17:07.16 | NoCode | Damn, I'm happy |
| 17:07.26 | BriOnLinux | I'm installing Debian as we speak. |
| 17:07.48 | sandman | BriOnLinux: And secondly, I'm sure everyone can appreciate that you might switch to Debian. That's great. But, we're not selling anything. |
| 17:08.02 | BriOnLinux | What's Debian? |
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| 17:08.07 | BriOnLinux | Oh, Debian. I see. |
| 17:08.09 | sandman | BriOnLinux: It's not like whether we support Ubuntu here or not is going to be changed based on whether you're installing Debian or are planning on switching. |
| 17:08.18 | pngwn | BriOnLinux, debian.org/doc try the installation manual and then the reference |
| 17:08.21 | meder | Debian -> Julius Caesar, Ubuntu -> Octavion |
| 17:08.30 | sandman | meder: Well said lol |
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| 17:08.43 | BriOnLinux | Are you guys saying you can't help me because you don't know how to use Ubuntu? |
| 17:08.46 | BriOnLinux | :( |
| 17:09.00 | xeon-enouf | g00se: onlyfunny thing about /etc/fstab is how hdd is cdrom0 (slave drive) and cdrom1 is hdc (master) .. now, check /etc/udev/rules.d/cd* file |
| 17:09.08 | BriOnLinux | I thought Ubuntu was based off of Debian? |
| 17:09.12 | sandman | BriOnLinux: lol you think we're here to prove we're smart or something? |
| 17:09.13 | pngwn | BriOnLinux, azeem told you why |
| 17:09.15 | xeon-enouf | g00se: erm.. a number preceeds cd |
| 17:09.30 | azeem | BriOnLinux: please keep either quiet or leave |
| 17:09.30 | xeon-enouf | g00se: tab-complete ;-) |
| 17:09.37 | BriOnLinux | Why are you being rude to me? |
| 17:09.46 | pngwn | !tell TrueDD[away] -about away |
| 17:09.51 | azeem | you're off topic |
| 17:09.54 | xeon-enouf | g00se: yeah,seems your udev files are a bvit flakey |
| 17:09.57 | sandman | Yes. |
| 17:09.59 | abrotman | BriOnLinux: you're asking questions about ubuntu, we don't support ubuntu here. If you do not have a Debian questions, please be quiet |
| 17:10.04 | salvin | meder, Ubuntu -> Brutus |
| 17:10.09 | _AnywhereIs_ | guys im going to update kernel in my debian. i guess "linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 and linux-headers-* are made for that purpose, yeah? i never did that before but i guess i need that due to vulnerability in linux: i exactly mean the one with sock_sendpage() that works for me(tested). |
| 17:10.09 | meder | LOL |
| 17:10.16 | NoCode | Anyone else have a wacom tablet and have lenny installed need the article I followed? |
| 17:10.27 | xeon-enouf | TrueDD[away]: ahh .. turn that OFF please - i block all that so never see it |
| 17:10.34 | unitypunk | hey.. |
| 17:10.38 | unitypunk | i keep getting /sbin/umount.hal: Unmounting /media/disk failed: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.UnknownFailure: Cannot get drive from hal |
| 17:10.39 | sandman | lol |
| 17:10.41 | BriOnLinux | K well when Debian installs, I'll ask same question. |
| 17:10.47 | sandman | salvin: What you just said made my week. Thank you. |
| 17:10.49 | unitypunk | when i try to unmount this drive. |
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| 17:10.58 | unitypunk | what am i doing wrong? |
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| 17:11.13 | meder | BriOnLinux: I suggest Lenny |
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| 17:11.34 | BriOnLinux | Who is Lenny? Can he help me? |
| 17:11.35 | xeon-enouf | _AnywhereIs_: could you remove the leading underscore please? makes tab-completing your nick a PITA |
| 17:11.36 | TrueDD[away] | ok xeon-enouf, I'll do that when I'm back |
| 17:11.44 | sandman | BriOnLinux: lol |
| 17:11.44 | xeon-enouf | TrueDD[away]: haha |
| 17:11.57 | sandman | BriOnLinux: "Lenny" is a codename for the current Debian Stable distribution. |
| 17:12.04 | xeon-enouf | BriOnLinux: google Lenny Bruce :-P |
| 17:12.05 | BriOnLinux | Oh |
| 17:12.06 | TrueDD[away] | "when I'll be back"* ? |
| 17:12.08 | _AnywhereIs_ | xeon-enouf by now already not. i've choosen that long time ago :D |
| 17:12.13 | g00se | xeon-enouf: I'll check the rules |
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| 17:13.26 | xeon-enouf | g00se: if needed, edit accordingly, reastart udev or reboot, or just 'udev* reload_rules' (which seldom works) --or-- mv that file elsewhere and run /lib/udev/cdrules-generator or whatever it's called |
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| 17:14.04 | unitypunk | how would i list all drives and formats? |
| 17:14.18 | xeon-enouf | g00se: # TOSHIBA_DVD-ROM_SD-M1202 (pci-0000:00:1f.1-ide-1:0) |
| 17:14.20 | xeon-enouf | ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-0000:00:1f.1-ide-1:0", SYMLINK+="cdrom", ENV{GENERATED}="1" |
| 17:14.22 | BriOnLinux | Considering I can't get the tabbed browsing of my programs to work, can someone tell me how I can modify Debian source (now that I am on it)? |
| 17:14.27 | xeon-enouf | ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-0000:00:1f.1-ide-1:0", SYMLINK+="dvd", ENV{GENERATED}="1" |
| 17:14.38 | abrotman | BriOnLinux: you did not install debian that fast .. please stop being offtopic |
| 17:14.40 | meder | pastebin pls sir |
| 17:14.50 | xeon-enouf | g00se: now, .. "ls -l /dev/disk/by-*" should match |
| 17:15.06 | BriOnLinux | How am I off topic? I am talking about Debian, and I have been downloading Debian since 11:23 this morning.. |
| 17:15.19 | _AnywhereIs_ | what's a preferred way to upgrade kernel under debian lenny distro? :) |
| 17:15.21 | BriOnLinux | I didn't just start the download.. Why do you think I went here next after trying in Ubuntu chan? |
| 17:15.25 | xeon-enouf | g00se: the SYMLINK+= entry equates to what /dev/xxxx is created |
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| 17:15.54 | unitypunk | :-/ |
| 17:16.15 | xeon-enouf | g00se: with a few optical drives, this can get a bit confusing :-P |
| 17:16.21 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: um ... lshw? |
| 17:16.33 | unitypunk | not found. |
| 17:16.34 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: lshal too perhaps |
| 17:16.40 | xeon-enouf | !installit |
| 17:16.40 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
| 17:16.43 | unitypunk | i appear to be missing that usb drive again. |
| 17:16.49 | unitypunk | ran fine for a day or two |
| 17:16.59 | unitypunk | and then i/o errors out the ass. |
| 17:17.11 | unitypunk | and now is mounted but i get IO errors when i try to list it. |
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| 17:17.15 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: if everything works properly, ls -l /dev/disk/by-* will do |
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| 17:17.50 | BriOnLinux | Is anyone up for my "Use Windows OS for 10 minutes and keep your sanity" challenge? |
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| 17:18.02 | xeon-enouf | _AnywhereIs_: try /msg dpkg bpo |
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| 17:18.40 | xeon-enouf | _AnywhereIs_: lenny-backports has a .30 |
| 17:18.46 | xeon-enouf | judd: kernels |
| 17:18.48 | judd | xeon-enouf: Available kernel versions are: trunk: 2.6.31-rc6-686 (2.6.31~rc6-1~experimental.1~snapshot.14160); sid: 2.6.30-1-686 (2.6.30-6); squeeze: 2.6.30-1-686 (2.6.30-6); lenny-backports: 2.6.30-bpo.1-686 (2.6.30-6~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-17); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.8etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-24) |
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| 17:18.57 | Titan8990 | BriOnLinux, why would we want to keep our sanity? |
| 17:19.02 | xeon-enouf | lenny-backports: 2.6.30-bpo.1-686 (2.6.30-6~bpo50+1) |
| 17:19.35 | mkarora | Hi, can anybody help me with Installing Debian. I want to install it via PXE using netboot. The thing is, I don't have a internet connection but have another PC with Windows with a Debian image. |
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| 17:19.58 | _AnywhereIs_ | xeon-enouf :) thx |
| 17:19.58 | unitypunk | ... |
| 17:20.09 | unitypunk | mkarora: why are you trying to install from the net then? |
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| 17:20.21 | g00se | xeon-enouf: Yes, i must say i'm only just getting familiar with udev so my rules file per optical means not much to me, but here it is if it's of interest: http://pastebin.com/f51f73893 |
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| 17:20.45 | xeon-enouf | mkarora: /msg dpkg debian.exe might be an option .. though .. |
| 17:20.47 | mkarora | unitypunk: My laptop's DVD-ROM is not working and I don't even have a flash drive. |
| 17:21.05 | unitypunk | lol |
| 17:21.17 | unitypunk | you need internet or a network to install from the netinst. |
| 17:21.19 | xeon-enouf | g00se: wrong file |
| 17:21.26 | mkarora | I just have a PC with WinXP installed on it. |
| 17:21.27 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: not locally |
| 17:21.38 | unitypunk | not localy? |
| 17:21.39 | mkarora | unitypunk, please tell me a way to install it then. |
| 17:21.41 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: PXE/netboot works locally |
| 17:21.46 | mkarora | I've Debian lenny DVD |
| 17:21.50 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: LAN! |
| 17:21.54 | unitypunk | yes |
| 17:21.56 | unitypunk | i dais that |
| 17:21.58 | mkarora | xeon-enouf, how to make it work locally? |
| 17:22.03 | unitypunk | " internet or a network" |
| 17:22.09 | unitypunk | network meaning lan. |
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| 17:22.18 | xeon-enouf | what? |
| 17:22.22 | rich_dnb | how do i install JRE6 on debian? |
| 17:22.28 | mkarora | I even tried to locally run a apache server and make the DVD mounted at its root. |
| 17:22.28 | xeon-enouf | where's that quote from? |
| 17:22.35 | unitypunk | xeon-enouf: like 6 lines up! |
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| 17:22.45 | unitypunk | you need glasses. |
| 17:22.46 | xeon-enouf | he never said "no network" |
| 17:22.46 | unitypunk | lol |
| 17:22.47 | dutchfish | rich_dnb, you mean the sun jre? |
| 17:22.53 | unitypunk | yes he did? |
| 17:22.55 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: YOU said hat |
| 17:22.57 | NoCode | hmmm. Trying to get alchemy working in Lenny |
| 17:23.02 | abrotman | !tell rich_dnb about install java |
| 17:23.02 | rich_dnb | i just need java working, not sure what the difference is? |
| 17:23.21 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: no .. post it again ... and quote it |
| 17:23.25 | mkarora | xeon-enouf, can you please help me with it. |
| 17:23.26 | xeon-enouf | not YOU |
| 17:23.26 | unitypunk | ohhhhh. |
| 17:23.35 | g00se | xeon-enouf: Oh, yes. Here's the cd one http://pastebin.com/f16548ddf |
| 17:23.35 | chron_ | silc_1.1.4-1+b1 <-- what does b1 mean? |
| 17:23.39 | unitypunk | i read no image on a windows computer. |
| 17:23.43 | unitypunk | not i have one. |
| 17:23.53 | fanuc98 | I've attempted /etc/init.d/gdm stop as root, I've switched tty prompts from the gdm login screen and everything. I still cannot figure out how to stop gdm and x.. anyone know? |
| 17:23.58 | mkarora | When I select enter mirror details, I use to enter 192.168.1.100 i.e my computers local ip |
| 17:24.03 | mkarora | but it says bad mirror |
| 17:24.05 | abrotman | fanuc98: stopping gdm should be enough |
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| 17:24.43 | fanuc98 | gdm keeps wanting to force itself to run, though...asking me if I want to change tty#'s for it... :/ |
| 17:25.04 | xeon-enouf | g00se: see where it say "...ide-1:1" <-- that's hdd, the SLAVE drive -- edit accordingly - all entries |
| 17:25.20 | xeon-enouf | g00se: also adda few ;-) like dvdrw, etc ;-) |
| 17:25.38 | xeon-enouf | mkarora: sounds like a router address |
| 17:25.48 | xeon-enouf | er .. or modem |
| 17:26.03 | g00se | xeon-enouf: Could this be to do with the fact that my only HD is set as a slave? |
| 17:26.21 | xeon-enouf | folken: at worst ; 'telinit 1' |
| 17:26.30 | xeon-enouf | er fan,.. |
| 17:26.31 | mkarora | xeon-enouf, I've local Wifi Router but its address is 192.168.1.1 |
| 17:26.36 | xeon-enouf | crap- goner |
| 17:26.46 | xeon-enouf | mkarora: /me doesn;'t do wifi |
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| 17:27.02 | xeon-enouf | mkarora: and you likely need /msg dpkg installer firmware |
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| 17:27.32 | xeon-enouf | g00se: no, we're talking Secondary IDE Controller |
| 17:27.55 | Titan8990 | should all be handled by the name chipset/driver |
| 17:28.25 | xeon-enouf | g00se: pci-0000:00:07.1-ide-1:0 == Secondary Controller, MAster =drive |
| 17:28.35 | xeon-enouf | g00se: pci-0000:00:07.1-ide-1:1 == Secondary Controller, Slave =drive |
| 17:28.38 | rich_dnb | abrotman: i have installed jre-default, but i cant get the plugin installed |
| 17:28.39 | lnostdal | this is perhaps more of a linux-in-general thing, but is there some simple way to do bandwidth limiting? .. really simple; on a pr. interface basis .. say i want to limit down-speed to 50kb/s and up-speed to 10kb/s for a while .. then later lift it to 200kb/s and 30kb/s or so .. all traffic on eth1, say |
| 17:28.44 | rich_dnb | when i click nothing happens |
| 17:28.55 | abrotman | rich_dnb: did you setup the non-free sources ? |
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| 17:29.16 | xeon-enouf | lnostdal: no |
| 17:29.30 | joko | Hi, can anyone help me with scanning using sane? |
| 17:29.30 | BriOnLinux | is Debian for pros? |
| 17:29.48 | BriOnLinux | My friends tell me that Debian is too strict for nub @ Linux (aka me) |
| 17:29.58 | xeon-enouf | !sunday |
| 17:29.58 | dpkg | Sunday is the day all trolls swarm to #debian, avoid at all cost to remain sane. |
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| 17:30.09 | rich_dnb | abrotman, no sure what you mean, i just installed the default-jre from apt |
| 17:30.19 | xeon-enouf | joko: not directed at you at all |
| 17:30.21 | abrotman | rich_dnb: put your /etc/apt/sources.list in a pastebin |
| 17:30.40 | joko | xeon-enouf: Show the word sane and thought wtf? :) |
| 17:30.46 | unitypunk | would my swap drive show up in mount -ls? |
| 17:30.47 | joko | Saw * |
| 17:30.59 | Titan8990 | unitypunk, no |
| 17:30.59 | xeon-enouf | mkarora: ls /sys/class/net ; ifconfig -a to see local address of each iface |
| 17:31.10 | unitypunk | whats it usualy mounted as hdd? |
| 17:31.17 | xeon-enouf | mkarora: that is /sbin/ifconfig -a |
| 17:31.20 | xeon-enouf | as user |
| 17:31.30 | unitypunk | or is there a way to see the specs of your swap drive. |
| 17:31.38 | rich_dnb | abrotman, which packages do i need installed? |
| 17:31.38 | Titan8990 | unitypunk, try cat /proc/swaps |
| 17:31.38 | mkarora | xeon-enouf, I don't have linux on either of the systems |
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| 17:31.43 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: specs? cat /proc/swaps |
| 17:31.49 | joko | Or swapon -s |
| 17:31.51 | unitypunk | shit. |
| 17:31.52 | abrotman | rich_dnb: there is a package something like sun-java6-jre |
| 17:31.54 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: 'free' |
| 17:31.57 | unitypunk | swapdrive has I/O errors. |
| 17:31.58 | minsa | I remember that to play, dvd I need packages from a particular source... if someone can point out it will be great.. |
| 17:32.02 | unitypunk | excuse me. |
| 17:32.05 | minsa | to put into my sources.list |
| 17:32.14 | unitypunk | everything has i/o errorz! |
| 17:32.18 | xeon-enouf | minsa: /msg dpkg dmm |
| 17:32.21 | unitypunk | crys |
| 17:32.23 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: not good |
| 17:32.29 | Titan8990 | minsa, probably backports |
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| 17:32.37 | xeon-enouf | Titan8990: dmm! ;-) |
| 17:32.37 | minsa | thnx xeon-enouf |
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| 17:33.03 | Titan8990 | xeon-enouf, never used it |
| 17:33.03 | xeon-enouf | np |
| 17:33.10 | BriOnLinux | I hear gnome works the same on Debian and Ubuntu, so why can't you guys answer my question? |
| 17:33.10 | xeon-enouf | Titan8990: yikes |
| 17:33.17 | unitypunk | what do i do xeon-enouf !? |
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| 17:33.31 | xeon-enouf | BriOnLinux: we can, but won't as we might seriously break your system |
| 17:33.32 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@*.dsl.cavtel.net] by abrotman |
| 17:33.38 | *** mode/#debian [-b *!*@*.dsl.cavtel.net] by abrotman |
| 17:33.41 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@static-66-16-38-129.dsl.cavtel.net] by abrotman |
| 17:33.44 | *** mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 17:33.48 | xeon-enouf | BriOnLinux: not to mention, it just ain't right |
| 17:33.52 | abrotman | BriOnLinux: you've been silenced for 10 minutes for being offtopic |
| 17:34.12 | Titan8990 | xeon-enouf, im usually good after i install vlc |
| 17:34.21 | xeon-enouf | BriOnLinux: how many debian proper users go to #ubuntu for support?! lmfao |
| 17:34.22 | unitypunk | sifg.] |
| 17:34.28 | unitypunk | lol |
| 17:34.42 | unitypunk | i just tell people im using debian when im using ubuntu.. |
| 17:34.48 | unitypunk | mightaSWELL BE. |
| 17:34.53 | Titan8990 | unitypunk, thats not right |
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| 17:34.55 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: /msg dpkg forcefsck (isall i can think of) |
| 17:35.05 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: or .. wipe out your swap and remake it |
| 17:35.08 | Titan8990 | !ubuntu |
| 17:35.08 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 17:35.28 | unitypunk | Titan8990: all the backbone of debian is there. |
| 17:35.35 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: i do so occassionally - just to keep DHS/NSA at bay ;-) |
| 17:35.36 | unitypunk | thats what i really meen. |
| 17:35.37 | newtodebian | updated system using aptitude full-upgrade from etch to lenny |
| 17:35.47 | Titan8990 | unitypunk, thats not the point at all |
| 17:35.50 | g00se | xeon-enouf: So the big question is: is this anything to do with why mount -a doesn't work? (There are no errors in /var/log/messages btw) |
| 17:35.54 | newtodebian | getting this error after restart |
| 17:36.01 | unitypunk | so just unmount my swapdrive and format it as a new one? |
| 17:36.06 | newtodebian | failed to laod moudle vesa |
| 17:36.09 | xeon-enouf | g00se: do any other mount commands work? |
| 17:36.17 | Titan8990 | unitypunk, its is NOT the same and we do not want to support their POS version |
| 17:36.21 | newtodebian | can anybody help? |
| 17:36.30 | xeon-enouf | g00se: you will not mount anything not data .. or possibly multi-track things |
| 17:36.36 | unitypunk | Titan8990: then why do all the same commands work for me :) |
| 17:36.40 | rich_dnb | abrotman, which do i need enabled? |
| 17:36.48 | abrotman | rich_dnb: i asked to see your sources.list |
| 17:36.59 | unitypunk | except i have kubuntu , and kwm is silly... |
| 17:37.05 | g00se | xeon-enouf: Yes, one worked with the CDROM, but not with the CDRW |
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| 17:37.14 | abrotman | unitypunk: if you're not using Debian, use the correct channel for support |
| 17:37.16 | unitypunk | yet very fun to show off with my wobbly windows. |
| 17:37.22 | unitypunk | abrotman: i am. |
| 17:37.23 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: i do this; a) swapoff -a b) dd.... c) mkswap /dev/nameX d) swapon -a |
| 17:37.40 | newtodebian | abrotman , failed to load module vesa |
| 17:37.40 | xeon-enouf | g00se: show me exactly |
| 17:37.45 | newtodebian | after full upgrade |
| 17:37.48 | abrotman | newtodebian: i didn't say anyhting to you |
| 17:37.50 | Titan8990 | unitypunk, NO your not |
| 17:37.51 | unitypunk | ohhh |
| 17:37.57 | abrotman | you're |
| 17:37.57 | unitypunk | i forgot about what the dd command does. |
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| 17:38.17 | unitypunk | titan, yes i am, i have kubuntu installed on my laptop and debian on mydesktop. |
| 17:38.21 | xeon-enouf | g00se: and paste your NEWLY edited /etc/udev/../.. 70-persistent-cd.rules |
| 17:38.23 | unitypunk | shit man. |
| 17:38.32 | Titan8990 | unitypunk, man dd |
| 17:38.35 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: see /dev/zero ;-) |
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| 17:38.52 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: using a swapfile? or swap partition? |
| 17:39.06 | unitypunk | swap paririon |
| 17:39.11 | unitypunk | shouldbe i hope. |
| 17:39.11 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: do you use suspend/hibernate? |
| 17:39.14 | rich_dnb | http://debian.pastebin.com/d5447d6c8 |
| 17:39.25 | unitypunk | no. |
| 17:39.29 | unitypunk | its always on. |
| 17:39.29 | newtodebian | abrotman can you help me? |
| 17:39.35 | SQlvpapir | can anyone recommend a good ftp client with support for auth ssl? filezilla does not work :/ |
| 17:39.36 | abrotman | newtodebian: i didn't even see your question |
| 17:39.41 | xeon-enouf | check for resume=/dev/{[s,h]d* |
| 17:39.48 | abrotman | !tell rich_dnb about non-free |
| 17:39.50 | unitypunk | wha? |
| 17:39.55 | newtodebian | unable to start xserver after full upgrade |
| 17:39.57 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: nevermind ;-) |
| 17:40.13 | newtodebian | abrotman unable to start xserver after full upgrade |
| 17:40.26 | Titan8990 | SQlvpapir, i didn't think people actually used ftp over ssl.... |
| 17:40.28 | abrotman | newtodebian: upgrade to what from what ? |
| 17:40.32 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: suspend/hibernate usually involves swap (s2disk) |
| 17:40.41 | unitypunk | oh |
| 17:40.44 | newtodebian | abrotman from etch to lenny |
| 17:40.44 | dutchfish | SQlvpapir, i dont know if you mean a graphical one, but kasablanca can do that |
| 17:40.52 | unitypunk | well im reading dd and i dont understand what i need it fore. |
| 17:40.54 | abrotman | newtodebian: what is your video card ? |
| 17:40.54 | rich_dnb | abrotman, i get it but where do i get this sun jre? |
| 17:40.57 | unitypunk | im not compying anything. |
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| 17:41.06 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: zero out the file/partitin |
| 17:41.14 | newtodebian | abrotman intel 845 |
| 17:41.15 | xeon-enouf | is it file? is it partition? |
| 17:41.35 | abrotman | newtodebian: what is your WM ? |
| 17:41.44 | xeon-enouf | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/partition (be SURE correct partition, file) |
| 17:42.01 | g00se | xeon-enouf: Here are my mounting efforts: http://pastebin.com/f59e30db6 Haven't renamed anything yet |
| 17:42.04 | xeon-enouf | then you need mkswap /dev/nameX |
| 17:42.14 | newtodebian | abrotman installed both gdm and kdm, defualt was kdm |
| 17:42.18 | xeon-enouf | g00se: well , try harder ;-) |
| 17:42.35 | *** mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
| 17:42.45 | *** mode/#debian [-b *!*@static-66-16-38-129.dsl.cavtel.net] by abrotman |
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| 17:42.50 | newtodebian | abrotman getting this error failed to load module vesa ,no drivers available |
| 17:42.55 | abrotman | newtodebian: aptitude install xorg |
| 17:42.55 | xeon-enouf | g00se: so it muonted ro, it's an ISO ;-) |
| 17:43.09 | newtodebian | abrotman not working |
| 17:43.21 | abrotman | "not working" ? |
| 17:43.28 | Titan8990 | !doesn't work |
| 17:43.28 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
| 17:43.28 | xeon-enouf | g00se: or... it's data that's had session-closed and no longer accepts writes/additionaltracks |
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| 17:43.42 | newtodebian | abrotman 0 to upgrade 0 to install |
| 17:43.54 | unitypunk | unable to write signature package page: input/output error\ |
| 17:43.58 | xeon-enouf | g00se: i loathe optical shit nowadays, just buy HDDs ;-0 |
| 17:44.01 | abrotman | newtodebian: is the package installed ? use `dpkg -l xorg` .. what is the version installed ? |
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| 17:44.27 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: you with me babe? :-P |
| 17:44.29 | newtodebian | abrotman package is installed |
| 17:44.32 | g00se | xeon-enouf: Sep 13 18:43:52 amd kernel: [10269.291192] ISOFS: Unable to identify CD-ROM format. |
| 17:44.35 | unitypunk | yeah |
| 17:44.39 | unitypunk | but it failed at makign the swap |
| 17:44.42 | unitypunk | unable to write signature package page: input/output error\ |
| 17:44.47 | abrotman | newtodebian: i asked which version |
| 17:44.49 | xeon-enouf | g00se: maybe it's not ISO! |
| 17:44.50 | unitypunk | put me back at bash |
| 17:44.55 | newtodebian | abrotman but didnt see the version |
| 17:44.58 | xeon-enouf | g00se: file -s /dev/xxxxx |
| 17:45.08 | abrotman | newtodebian: is the package installed ? use `dpkg -l xorg` .. what is the version installed ? |
| 17:45.15 | xeon-enouf | g00se: looks like a custom-kernel .. uggghhh |
| 17:45.25 | xeon-enouf | g00se: use a debian one ;-) |
| 17:45.29 | newtodebian | have to reboot again abrotman |
| 17:45.54 | xeon-enouf | g00se: for dvds, install dvd+rw-tools |
| 17:45.55 | abrotman | newtodebian: how did you run the command if you're not currently in debian ? |
| 17:46.05 | xeon-enouf | man dvd+rw[tab][tab] |
| 17:46.18 | xeon-enouf | g00se: buy HDDs ;0 |
| 17:46.38 | newtodebian | i did in debian wrote all the error messages and whatever i have done abrotman |
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| 17:46.54 | abrotman | newtodebian: just IRC from debian .. it'll be way easier |
| 17:47.06 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: what? "signature package page" <-- wt4x! |
| 17:47.10 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: fsck |
| 17:47.15 | newtodebian | ok abrotman |
| 17:47.21 | rich_dnb | abrotman: can you please paste the url for the src for the non free software? |
| 17:47.24 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: /msg dpkg forcefsck |
| 17:47.26 | unitypunk | wtf is wt4x? |
| 17:47.35 | abrotman | rich_dnb: you just add the "non-free" at the end of each line for your sources |
| 17:47.44 | xeon-enouf | a nice way of syaing WTFuck |
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| 17:48.02 | rich_dnb | ta |
| 17:48.19 | unitypunk | fsk.swap not found. |
| 17:48.23 | unitypunk | err fsck |
| 17:48.25 | xeon-enouf | hahaha |
| 17:48.30 | xeon-enouf | still |
| 17:48.54 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: your swap isn't preventing you from mkswap. your rootfs is |
| 17:49.08 | unitypunk | wha? |
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| 17:49.23 | unitypunk | so i have io errors on my /dev/hdc? |
| 17:49.31 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: show me coomands you ran - exactly |
| 17:49.38 | unitypunk | wich ones! |
| 17:49.41 | xeon-enouf | ALL! |
| 17:49.50 | unitypunk | ssh only goes back sofar. |
| 17:50.02 | unitypunk | and dmesg is folled with i/o at dev/hdd1 |
| 17:50.03 | xeon-enouf | your bash has a history ;-) |
| 17:50.14 | unitypunk | putty has a very short one. |
| 17:50.36 | xeon-enouf | dmesg isn't putty and ssh isn't bash necessarily |
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| 17:51.00 | unitypunk | i can only go up like 150 lines? |
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| 17:51.06 | unitypunk | and its all dmesg output |
| 17:51.14 | xeon-enouf | now .. let's throw in some qemu :-) |
| 17:51.20 | g00se | xeon-enouf: Not it's not a custom kernel. It's 2.6.30-bpo.1-686 - is that the problem? |
| 17:51.51 | abrotman | unitypunk: you can configure that |
| 17:51.53 | xeon-enouf | g00se: no .. it's just the hostname that threw me, i guess |
| 17:52.27 | unitypunk | i know abrotman but it wont recover lines |
| 17:52.33 | unitypunk | itll only give new lines more space. |
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| 17:53.01 | RussianRoot | Hi There! |
| 17:53.03 | xeon-enouf | /ig unitypunk for not being forthcoming |
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| 17:53.24 | unitypunk | uh? |
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| 17:53.42 | xeon-enouf | putty? ssh? never mentioned prior |
| 17:54.00 | xeon-enouf | windows needs putty , linux doesn't |
| 17:54.18 | rich_dnb | abrotman: i have added that |
| 17:54.22 | xeon-enouf | capisce!? |
| 17:54.25 | rich_dnb | which package do i need mate? |
| 17:54.34 | unitypunk | sorry. |
| 17:54.47 | unitypunk | dosent everyone on windows use putty? |
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| 17:55.13 | unitypunk | xeon-enouf: chew on this http://unitypunk.pastebin.com/d560db1af |
| 17:55.19 | Titan8990 | may not be many windows users in here... |
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| 17:55.31 | unitypunk | sigh. |
| 17:55.51 | unitypunk | tragicly somethings dont work on linux. |
| 17:55.58 | unitypunk | like quix |
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| 17:56.12 | unitypunk | and ps2hdd |
| 17:56.14 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: there are no Redmond OS users here .. :-P and if there are, it's the wrong channel.. homogenization sucks ass.. except when creating/mixing/churning butter or milk ;-) |
| 17:56.25 | Titan8990 | never used either, don't care about them |
| 17:56.25 | unitypunk | lol |
| 17:56.25 | rich_dnb | HULK RAGE |
| 17:56.31 | unitypunk | well i do./ |
| 17:56.36 | unitypunk | so i need something that can use them. |
| 17:56.43 | uwjesd | I get error while loading shared library even though the file with the exact name is in my /usr/lib/ what can be wrong? |
| 17:56.43 | xeon-enouf | no |
| 17:56.52 | Titan8990 | unitypunk, it looks to me like your hdd might be going |
| 17:57.03 | xeon-enouf | uwjesd: LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 17:57.06 | unitypunk | gross. |
| 17:57.19 | rich_dnb | abrotman: i cannot find sun anything in apt search |
| 17:57.26 | unitypunk | i tihnk all my damn disk drives are going the way of the native american. |
| 17:57.28 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: try depmod -a |
| 17:57.30 | xeon-enouf | er |
| 17:57.39 | xeon-enouf | uwjesd: : try depmod -a |
| 17:57.44 | unitypunk | lol |
| 17:57.59 | xeon-enouf | although .. |
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| 17:58.39 | xeon-enouf | uwjesd: seems more like a /etc/ld.so.conf{.d}/* mismatch |
| 17:58.50 | dutchfish | rich_dnb, you need non-free in /etc/apt/sources.list to install non-free apps |
| 17:59.05 | xeon-enouf | uwjesd: erm ..ldd libraryname ... ..hrm |
| 17:59.10 | rich_dnb | dutchfish: I have added non-free to the end of each line |
| 17:59.17 | rich_dnb | is that what you mean? |
| 17:59.19 | xeon-enouf | rich_dnb: update |
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| 17:59.31 | rich_dnb | already done it |
| 17:59.36 | xeon-enouf | !debian matra |
| 17:59.39 | dutchfish | rich_dnb, yes |
| 17:59.40 | unitypunk | man |
| 17:59.42 | xeon-enouf | !debian mantra |
| 17:59.42 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, debian mantra is "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" or "aptitude update && aptitude upgrade" |
| 17:59.46 | xeon-enouf | even |
| 17:59.48 | unitypunk | i dont have anymore 6gb hard drives. |
| 17:59.54 | unitypunk | all my dinosaurs are gone. |
| 17:59.56 | unitypunk | :( |
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| 18:00.12 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: i can send you some 1.2GB drives :-P |
| 18:00.17 | rich_dnb | this is killing me now, all i need is java |
| 18:00.20 | unitypunk | pfft |
| 18:00.23 | dutchfish | rich_dnb, then aptitude update and you should be able to find |
| 18:00.26 | rich_dnb | i have added non-free and done an update |
| 18:00.27 | unitypunk | shipping isnt going tob e worth the space lol |
| 18:00.34 | xeon-enouf | !installjava |
| 18:00.35 | rich_dnb | apt-get search -n sun doesnt show me anything |
| 18:00.37 | xeon-enouf | !install java |
| 18:00.37 | dpkg | For the java plugin install either the icedtea-gcjwebplugin (free) plugin or the sun-java6-plugin (<non-free>). For other java programs (lenny onwards), you can install the default-jre package to get install a java runtime, or "apt-cache search java-virtual-machine" to see other implementations. The best options are probably openjdk-6-jre or sun-java6-jre. Also ask me about <install java etch>. Also see <java alternatives> |
| 18:00.44 | unitypunk | could i just do a swapfile? |
| 18:00.51 | unitypunk | or is that inferior somehow? |
| 18:01.06 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: no, a file is not |
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| 18:01.16 | minsa | I install .deb file from adobe.. but installation doesn't go smoothly... now it is giving me "needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it" error |
| 18:01.29 | xeon-enouf | unitypunk: depending upon where on disk is placement .. minimal |
| 18:01.29 | unitypunk | not inferior, or not possible lol |
| 18:01.36 | uwjesd | xeon-enouf: depmod -a gave me no ouput |
| 18:01.40 | xeon-enouf | verypossible |
| 18:01.44 | xeon-enouf | know dd |
| 18:01.50 | unitypunk | whys that? |
| 18:01.53 | xeon-enouf | uwjesd: yeah, my bad |
| 18:01.56 | minsa | anyway to resolve , remove that error ? |
| 18:01.58 | xeon-enouf | try next |
| 18:02.02 | abrotman | rich_dnb: did you aptitude update ? |
| 18:02.08 | rich_dnb | yeah |
| 18:02.13 | uwjesd | xeon-enouf: Can I give the program a parameter where to look for the lib? |
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| 18:02.20 | xeon-enouf | uwjesd: yes |
| 18:02.29 | xeon-enouf | i told you the VARNAME= |
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| 18:02.41 | xeon-enouf | uwjesd: and also LD_PRELOAD= |
| 18:03.06 | xeon-enouf | uwjesd: no root privs? |
| 18:03.11 | rich_dnb | i edited /etc/apt/sources directly |
| 18:03.15 | rich_dnb | how do i reload that file? |
| 18:03.21 | xeon-enouf | update! |
| 18:03.26 | uwjesd | xeon-enouf: I have root prevs |
| 18:03.35 | g00se | xeon-enouf: I've just made some edits to the rules and restarted udev. Obviously that wasn't sufficient as ls is still showing the old links ... |
| 18:03.36 | xeon-enouf | !sources.list |
| 18:03.36 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
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| 18:04.03 | xeon-enouf | g00se: then reboot |
| 18:04.17 | dutchfish | rich_dnb, aptitude search sun-java5 |
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| 18:04.33 | xeon-enouf | uwjesd: then seewhat i said earlier |
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| 18:04.54 | rich_dnb | i did it through synaptic and now it comes up |
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| 18:05.12 | xeon-enouf | STOP with the GUI-shit .. ffs |
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| 18:05.39 | xeon-enouf | use aptitude or apt-get from the shell! |
| 18:05.41 | dutchfish | rich_dnb, well then you can do aptitude install sun-java5-jre |
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| 18:06.02 | dutchfish | rich_dnb, or sun-java6-jre |
| 18:06.05 | Kovensky | can I make a squashfs with -lzma for using with live-initramfs? |
| 18:06.36 | xeon-enouf | Kovensky: no idea; /msg dpkg tias ;-) |
| 18:06.44 | rich_dnb | i just grabbed it from within X |
| 18:06.54 | xeon-enouf | Kovensky: see linux-live.org ? |
| 18:06.56 | rich_dnb | cheers for the help, i dont know why aptitude wasnt being such a muppet |
| 18:07.18 | dutchfish | rich_dnb, prolly a typo ;) but yw |
| 18:07.28 | xeon-enouf | Kovensky: maybe #debian-live (if debian specific) |
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| 18:08.22 | xeon-enouf | g00se: show me the "edits" |
| 18:08.40 | Kovensky | xeon-enouf: I'm making a debian-based live usb |
| 18:08.50 | g00se | xeon-enouf: Have ignored bus issues now but tried to streamline naming with following: http://pastebin.com/f356df432 No change even after reboot |
| 18:08.52 | xeon-enouf | Kovensky: try debirf ;-) |
| 18:08.55 | Kovensky | dunno if that qualifies for #debian-live :p |
| 18:08.58 | Kovensky | debirf? |
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| 18:09.15 | xeon-enouf | crap .. offline atm |
| 18:09.44 | xeon-enouf | g00se: man .. yuo aredense |
| 18:09.57 | uwjesd | xeon-enouf: I got some output for ldd http://pastebin.com/md536eb2 |
| 18:10.08 | xeon-enouf | g00se: igive up == you win |
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| 18:10.35 | g00se | xeon-enouf: What have i (not) done!? |
| 18:10.37 | Z4ndX | Mjello .. |
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| 18:11.41 | Kovensky | # du -h filesystem.squashfs.* |
| 18:11.41 | Kovensky | 158M filesystem.squashfs.lzma |
| 18:11.41 | Kovensky | 158M filesystem.squashfs.nolzma |
| 18:11.49 | Z4ndX | Any one know anything about getting wireless to work on a Dell Studio XPS ? |
| 18:11.51 | Kovensky | heh |
| 18:13.22 | cahoot | Z4ndX: you need the pciid of the wlan device |
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| 18:14.46 | Z4ndX | 2 sek |
| 18:15.18 | rich_dnb | anyway, thankyou dutchfish and co. |
| 18:15.30 | Z4ndX | Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) |
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| 18:16.31 | abrotman | Z4ndX: do you have a wired connection you can use ? |
| 18:16.37 | xeon-enouf | g00se: here;trythis; http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m4bf7a757 |
| 18:17.27 | Z4ndX | abrotman: Yeah. im using it now .. |
| 18:17.46 | abrotman | Z4ndX: you'll probably need to go to backports.org and read the instructions and install the .30 kernel there |
| 18:18.33 | xeon-enouf | g00se: as i said though; mv /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules ~/backed-up-/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules ; as root; /lib/udev/write_cd_rules should do the right thing |
| 18:18.44 | Titan8990 | abrotman, ath9k wasn't in .26? |
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| 18:18.49 | Titan8990 | i know it was in .27 |
| 18:18.54 | abrotman | it is .. but not for lots of chipsets |
| 18:18.59 | abrotman | and IIRC, flaky |
| 18:19.00 | Z4ndX | abrotman: Hmm .. Okay .. Ill try :) |
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| 18:19.08 | xeon-enouf | g00se: mkdir ~/backed-up- |
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| 18:19.57 | morpheuss | Hola |
| 18:20.03 | xeon-enouf | for ath9k on lenny, BPO seems good |
| 18:20.15 | xeon-enouf | morpheuss: aloha |
| 18:20.42 | morpheuss | oh im not good at networking :) |
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| 18:20.54 | morpheuss | lots of stacked protocols |
| 18:20.57 | xeon-enouf | morpheuss: and i am ? |
| 18:21.16 | xeon-enouf | piles on morpheuss' stack |
| 18:21.22 | morpheuss | lol |
| 18:21.50 | divino | Heya, when I click to download the Debian torrents for the 5 installation DVDs, I'm being told by my torrent client (Transmission) that the files are Not Found |
| 18:21.53 | divino | or rather |
| 18:21.58 | divino | "Not available" |
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| 18:22.11 | morpheuss | xeon-enouf: should meet your gf |
| 18:22.13 | xeon-enouf | retires for the day |
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| 18:22.23 | morpheuss | then i can say abt your networking |
| 18:22.25 | divino | That is, Not available on the server, I think. |
| 18:22.42 | LobbyZ | May i panic here incase my vps crashes for some reason? |
| 18:22.48 | rich_dnb | hahaha to the X infinity, after the pain of installing java, etrade doesnt work once again, great |
| 18:22.57 | rich_dnb | so its linux that is the problem, GRRR |
| 18:23.00 | rich_dnb | face hurt |
| 18:23.02 | abrotman | rich_dnb: are you sure you're using the sun java ? |
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| 18:23.45 | divino | In Transmission's Message Log, it keeps saying that is "Couldn't read resume file" |
| 18:23.49 | divino | Is this server-end? |
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| 18:24.19 | rich_dnb | how do i check that? |
| 18:24.29 | abrotman | about:plugins |
| 18:24.36 | g00se | xeon-enouf: Thanks. I was just trying (pro tem) to make a clear distinction between the CDROM and CDRW. Trying yours now |
| 18:24.49 | Z4ndX | abrotman: How do i install the .30 kernel after i updated my source list ? |
| 18:25.13 | abrotman | Z4ndX: what's your CPU? and did you read all the instructions ? |
| 18:25.29 | Z4ndX | http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions |
| 18:25.30 | rich_dnb | I am using sun java and etrade doesnt work properly some of the mneus are not working |
| 18:25.36 | rich_dnb | is there a way of debugging it abrotman? |
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| 18:26.43 | abrotman | rich_dnb: i don't know enough about debugging java to tell you |
| 18:26.51 | abrotman | Z4ndX: and what's your CPU ? |
| 18:26.54 | Z4ndX | abrotman: Cant fidn my CPU in "lspci" |
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| 18:27.10 | abrotman | Z4ndX: uname -r .. what does it say now ? |
| 18:27.16 | uwjesd | I get error while loading shared library even though the file with the exact name is in my /usr/lib/ what can be wrong? |
| 18:27.26 | uwjesd | I mean how do I fix that? |
| 18:27.36 | Z4ndX | abrotman: 2.6.28-15-generic |
| 18:28.02 | benjamindees | uwjesd, run ldconfig |
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| 18:29.05 | abrotman | Z4ndX: that's ubuntu .. why are you asking here ? |
| 18:29.36 | benjamindees | CPUs don't reside on the PCI bus... |
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| 18:29.53 | Z4ndX | Debian and ubuntu are almost the same :) .. Found the ubuntu backports :) |
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| 18:30.08 | abrotman | Z4ndX: do NOT use those backports.org .. you *will* mess up your box |
| 18:30.25 | Z4ndX | abrotman: Okay :) |
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| 18:30.33 | abrotman | Z4ndX: now go to #ubuntu for support |
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| 18:30.52 | Z4ndX | abrotman: Okay .. Thanks you for your time |
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| 18:31.46 | uwjesd | benjamindees: ldconfig did not change this. |
| 18:32.08 | swell | facedesk.... Ubuntu users, in my #debian? Its more likely than you think :( |
| 18:32.20 | sandman | Is there much security benefit to running all my services under Virtualbox? |
| 18:32.23 | g00se | xeon-enouf: No apparent change in anything much. Back later. Thanks for your help |
| 18:32.41 | sandman | That is, I've a MySQL VBox, an Apache VBox, et cetera. |
| 18:32.43 | benjamindees | uwjesd: what library is it? what are you running? where did you get it? did you build it correctly? is it the correct version? etc... |
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| 18:33.51 | benjamindees | sandman: Yes I'm sure there's some benefit. |
| 18:34.59 | benjamindees | obfuscation, at least |
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| 18:35.31 | froggyman | whenever I run 'apt-get update' I get errors after it downloads them, the errors are: reading package lists... Error! ; E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room ; E: Error occured while processing r-cran-rserve (NewVersion1) |
| 18:35.42 | sandman | benjamindees: Right, but it is possible for one to hack their way out of a virtualbox, yes? |
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| 18:36.16 | froggyman | and also I am on debian Sarge (3.1) under VMware |
| 18:36.40 | benjamindees | sandman: of course |
| 18:36.49 | sandman | Well, it seems to me |
| 18:36.57 | sandman | If someone is going to hack you, generally it's just a matter of time. |
| 18:37.15 | sandman | So if it's just going to postpone it, I figure why bother. |
| 18:37.19 | cahoot | !tell froggyman about mmap |
| 18:37.28 | uwjesd | benjamindees: It was already installed through some dependency libXxf86dga |
| 18:37.33 | sandman | I'll just have solid backups. =) |
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| 18:38.13 | Dominicus | Is anyone else experiencing slow domain name lookup times with iceweasel 3.0.12? I've got comcast, and their wonderful *coughs* dns servers. I'm talking about a lookup time of what feels like 1-2 seconds for a domain that actually exists. |
| 18:38.35 | benjamindees | sandman, you think backups can't be compromised? |
| 18:38.44 | froggyman | cahoot: how might I do that? |
| 18:38.49 | sandman | benjamindees: Co-located backups? |
| 18:38.50 | abrotman | !tell froggyman about mmap |
| 18:38.59 | sandman | benjamindees: Stored at a safety deposity box @ various banks? |
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| 18:39.41 | sandman | I mean, that's not a _bad_ backup solution, is it? =) |
| 18:39.46 | cahoot | froggyman: you should have a message from the bot on the subject |
| 18:39.46 | folken | Dominicus: try the opendns.com dns servers. |
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| 18:40.04 | cahoot | well two now |
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| 18:40.23 | folken | Dominicus: or use your own caching dns server. |
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| 18:41.10 | Dominicus | folken: At this point, I'm trying to figure out how to reproduce the horrible lookup times using "dig", to prove whether it is or isn't firefox, or my system being goofy. |
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| 18:41.32 | folken | Dominicus: is one of the servers not reachable? |
| 18:41.34 | froggyman | ohh and it also said: E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/debian.internet.gr_debian_dists_testing_main_binary-i289_Packages : E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened |
| 18:41.48 | froggyman | !tell froggyman about mmap |
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| 18:42.02 | froggyman | ohhh |
| 18:42.31 | Kovensky | oh well, got syslinux working |
| 18:42.43 | Kovensky | now, to get it to find the squashfs ._. |
| 18:42.48 | Dominicus | folken: Both dns servers 68.87.77.130 and 68.87.77.134 return good ping results with no lost packets. |
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| 18:43.27 | benjamindees | sandman all backup solutions are better than none |
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| 18:44.53 | folken | Dominicus: and both answer fine when you query them induvidually with dig @nameserverip |
| 18:44.56 | folken | ? |
| 18:45.09 | Dominicus | folken: And when I try to run a "time dig @68.87.77.130 www.xkcd.com" and "time dig @68.87.77.134 www.xkcd.com" |
| 18:45.10 | Titan8990 | Dominicus, if you have a search or domain entry in your resolv.conf it can sometimes use mdns and wait for that to timeout prior to making a normal lookup |
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| 18:45.26 | Dominicus | folken: .. they return really acceptable time values. |
| 18:46.11 | folken | Dominicus: yes, Titan8990 is right, have a look at your /etc/nsswitch.conf |
| 18:46.30 | benjamindees | uwjesd: what are you running? where did you get it? did you build it correctly? is the library the correct version? is the library corrupt? etc... |
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| 18:46.40 | Titan8990 | Dominicus, watch the connection happen in wireshark while connecting firefox |
| 18:48.14 | DeSian_ | why can't install pidgin from backports in lenny http://paste.debian.net/46442/ ? |
| 18:48.27 | Dominicus | Titan8990: Thanks for suggesting that. I don't recall configuring resolv.conf, but it had two duplicate entries ot one nameserver, and two duplicate entries for a second nameserver that pings ok, but doesn't respond to dns queries. What populates /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 18:49.11 | uwjesd | benjamindees: Again I have it from Lenny repo and I am getting "No such file or directory". |
| 18:49.16 | Titan8990 | Dominicus, depends on how networking is configured |
| 18:49.26 | Titan8990 | Dominicus, in most cases dhcp |
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| 18:50.05 | Titan8990 | Dominicus, can be network-manager or /etc/networking/interfaces |
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| 18:50.24 | DeSian_ | any way to fix it? |
| 18:51.20 | benjamindees | uwjesd, amazingly I didn't pose those questions just to hear you repeat what you've already told me... |
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| 18:51.58 | Dominicus | Titan8990: Yeah, I configured my /etc/network/interfaces for a static interface, but I never configured the eth0 interface for the dns servers. And the /etc/resolv.conf has a date modified from 2009-07-22. |
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| 18:53.59 | Titan8990 | Dominicus, if you have gnome installed network manager will interfere with interfaces config |
| 18:54.05 | Titan8990 | Dominicus, and it needs to be disabled |
| 18:54.16 | benjamindees | s/disabled/removed/ |
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| 18:56.33 | froggyman | now it says that there is extra junk at the end of the apt.conf file |
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| 18:56.52 | froggyman | I edited it on windows, with notepad set to UTF-8 |
| 18:56.59 | Dominicus | Titan8990: Nah. I just checked network-manager isn't installed. I'm trying to find out if there's something I should do to add to the /etc/network/interfaces file to pull new nameservers for populating into /etc/resolv.conf, because I'm guessing the data in there is old. I'm trying to find out if there's a way for me to tell using linux. A special command or something. |
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| 18:59.45 | Z4ndX | If i edited fstab and i want to re-mount the disks in it, what do i write? Whats the command ? |
| 18:59.45 | benjamindees | froggyman: notepad does not honor unix line endings... |
| 18:59.55 | benjamindees | froggyman: use wordpad instead |
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| 19:00.13 | cahoot | Z4ndX: persistent? |
| 19:00.18 | Z4ndX | What ? |
| 19:00.20 | DeSian_ | i can't understand this error, and googled before no result :( |
| 19:00.22 | froggyman | benjamindees: thanks |
| 19:01.04 | benjamindees | froggyman: or use something like 'dostounix' in order to fix it |
| 19:01.15 | abrotman | Z4ndX: thought you were getting support in #ubuntu now ? |
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| 19:01.27 | Titan8990 | Dominicus, debian uses resolvconf |
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| 19:01.43 | froggyman | benjamindees: do I want to keep those " marks at the begining and end of the number? |
| 19:01.43 | Z4ndX | abrotman: Haha .. Yeah but im working in my Debian server now :D |
| 19:01.55 | Z4ndX | * on my :P |
| 19:02.01 | abrotman | Z4ndX: man mount |
| 19:02.06 | Z4ndX | k |
| 19:02.28 | benjamindees | froggyman: quotation marks are not line endings so yes... |
| 19:02.36 | Z4ndX | But there is so much reading :P |
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| 19:03.02 | abrotman | so what .. read it |
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| 19:03.53 | morpheuss | i was wondering how can i upgrade my kde to 4.X ? |
| 19:04.36 | Titan8990 | judd, versions kdelibs |
| 19:04.37 | judd | Titan8990: kdelibs -- etch: 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-8etch1 etch-security: 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-8etch2 etch-backports: 4:3.5.7.dfsg.1-7~bpo40+1 lenny: 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-0lenny1 lenny-security: 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-0lenny2 sid: 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-1 sid: 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-2 squeeze: 4:3.5.10.dfsg.1-2 |
| 19:04.55 | abrotman | morpheuss: kde4.debian.net |
| 19:05.00 | benjamindees | froggyman: actually you should pastebin your sources.list |
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| 19:06.41 | morpheuss | abrotman: thanks man |
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| 19:07.25 | froggyman | benjamindees: http://pastebin.com/me69d8a4 |
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| 19:08.53 | abrotman | froggyman: you're not running sarge |
| 19:09.16 | wildc4rd_ | evening all! |
| 19:09.33 | morpheuss | Good evening wildc4rd_ |
| 19:09.55 | froggyman | abrotman: why do you say that? |
| 19:10.10 | abrotman | froggyman: sarge is not stable .. your sources are pointing at stable |
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| 19:11.11 | froggyman | is using a prebuilt image found here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/VMwareDevelopmentPlatform |
| 19:11.28 | froggyman | if that matters. |
| 19:11.47 | danilom | is usefull to use a virtual server like using xen to act as a samba server, how is the performance? |
| 19:12.27 | abrotman | froggyman: the sources are still not right for using sarge |
| 19:12.41 | froggyman | hmm... |
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| 19:14.51 | froggyman | tried to install packages via apt-get but got mmap errors, went over to #debian and they asked for a pastbin of sources.list and according to that it isnt sarge |
| 19:14.55 | froggyman | whoops |
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| 19:15.15 | spal | is there any package to write musical notes, translate it to sheet music as well as MIDI or WAV? |
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| 19:15.49 | bio-tty | hello. i wonder if i use the cd extractor in gnome, is the resulting ogg transcoding lossless, from a raw audio cd? |
| 19:15.50 | paissad-hp | hi everybody |
| 19:16.28 | cahoot | bio-tty: ogg vorbis isn't lossless is it? |
| 19:16.29 | bio-tty | my guess is that MP3 is more lossy |
| 19:17.22 | paissad-hp | which program must i run to have my internet connection back, i logged to root, i did dhclient , but it takes a while for searching, and does not find anything |
| 19:18.05 | paissad-hp | and when i run dhcpd3, that says ' Not configured to listen on any interfaces' |
| 19:18.10 | bio-tty | ogg sample rate is 44100 Hz and bitrate 160 kbps. i guess these OGG files kept pretty much everything of the audible info |
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| 19:18.17 | paissad-hp | can someone help me please, thanks in advance |
| 19:19.39 | themill | spal: I believe lilypond can do some (all?) of that |
| 19:20.24 | spal | themill, thanks |
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| 19:21.02 | abrotman | or maybe rosegarden |
| 19:21.33 | nsadmin | paissad-hp first, need some info. do you have more than one machine, and an internal NAT? |
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| 19:22.42 | nsadmin | paissad-hp first, need some info. do you have more than one machine, and an internal NAT? |
| 19:22.49 | edju | As this laptop awakes from sleeping, wicd does not recognize the network. I must run iwconfig to set the essid; the network is then recognized and a connection made w/o further config. Isn't this supposed to be done automagically? What's missing? |
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| 19:24.30 | spal | i'll go with lilypond because it works across OSes. |
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| 19:25.04 | nsadmin | paissad-hp are you paying attention? |
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| 19:26.11 | nsadmin | guess not... /me goes to make coffee and start other stuff |
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| 19:26.25 | elops | is it possible to use windows aswell as linux ? |
| 19:26.47 | nsadmin | elops: sure... easiest is with two machines |
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| 19:27.19 | benjamindees | elops, yes that is called "dual-booting" |
| 19:27.42 | Chandon | Why aren't I getting a PTHREAD_STACK_MIN constant when I pull in <pthread.h>? |
| 19:28.05 | nsadmin | because it's not defined there? |
| 19:28.14 | nsadmin | that would be my guess |
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| 19:29.59 | Chandon | nsadmin, Right. I'm trying to build some software that seems to think it should be defined there. Is that software wrong? |
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| 19:30.28 | Kovensky | mount -t aufs -o noatime,dirs=/cow=rw://filesystem.squashfs=rr aufs /root |
| 19:30.29 | nsadmin | evidently yes |
| 19:30.36 | Kovensky | mount: mounting aufs on /root failed: No such device |
| 19:30.37 | Kovensky | :( |
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| 19:30.57 | CodeNinja | Kovensky: do you mean autofs ? |
| 19:31.00 | CodeNinja | er |
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| 19:31.01 | CodeNinja | auto? |
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| 19:31.12 | Kovensky | no |
| 19:31.13 | Kovensky | aufs |
| 19:31.18 | nsadmin | what's that? |
| 19:31.23 | Kovensky | looks for related stuff in aptitude |
| 19:31.26 | Kovensky | Another Union FS |
| 19:31.32 | Kovensky | what live-initramfs uses by default instead of unionfs |
| 19:31.34 | nsadmin | ahh |
| 19:31.34 | CodeNinja | why not just use unionfs? |
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| 19:32.23 | Chandon | nsadmin, So where should that constant come from? |
| 19:32.27 | Kovensky | why doesn't live-initramfs recommend aufs-modules |
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| 19:32.35 | nsadmin | Chandon: try this... grep -r PTHREAD_STACK_MIN /usr/include |
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| 19:32.50 | nsadmin | Chandon: I have NO idea :) |
| 19:32.57 | nsadmin | but |
| 19:33.00 | CodeNinja | Kovensky: last I checked it used unionfs, not aufs |
| 19:33.01 | morpheuss | we still have virtualbox 1.6 in lenny? |
| 19:33.16 | CodeNinja | morpheuss: yes, althe way up to 3.x |
| 19:33.31 | Kovensky | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:33.34 | Kovensky | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:33.34 | nsadmin | if there is a file in /usr/include that mentions it, that grep will find it |
| 19:34.02 | CodeNinja | Kovensky: ^ then according to that if aufs isn't working use unionfs :P |
| 19:34.12 | Kovensky | yes :P |
| 19:34.23 | Kovensky | it's just weird that the package doesn't work by default :P |
| 19:34.30 | Chandon | nsadmin, There isn't, but I found the right google query. it's <limits.h>. |
| 19:34.34 | CodeNinja | Kovensky: did you get all of the aufs things? |
| 19:34.44 | Kovensky | yes |
| 19:34.51 | Kovensky | I got them now, actually |
| 19:35.00 | Kovensky | I'm remaking the squashfs and will try shortly |
| 19:35.11 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:35.47 | Chandon | nsadmin, Right, but stuff in /bits/ isn't a public interface so I can't include that directly. |
| 19:35.48 | CodeNinja | Kovensky: did you get these too? aufs-modules specifc to your kernel? aufs-tools funionfs linux-patch-aufs |
| 19:35.58 | nsadmin | if that's right, then limits.h includes <bits/local_lim.h> |
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| 19:36.13 | Kovensky | no, just aufs-modules :( |
| 19:36.25 | CodeNinja | Kovensky: apt-cache search aufs |
| 19:36.26 | CodeNinja | :) |
| 19:36.27 | Kovensky | linux-patch-aufs <-- this is just source |
| 19:36.43 | CodeNinja | but it probably patches your kernel to be able to use aufs |
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| 19:37.02 | Kovensky | no, that is the patch that I would apply to a kernel source I want to compile =p |
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| 19:37.27 | evil_core | hi all |
| 19:37.43 | Kovensky | an aufs-modules for the right kernel was enough :P |
| 19:38.00 | CodeNinja | but you just said it wasn't working? |
| 19:38.35 | CodeNinja | is lost now |
| 19:38.35 | evil_core | i dint use debian, but wanted to ask if anybody know any yacufs mirror? |
| 19:38.38 | Kovensky | I meant it wasn't working because 1) I didn't have aufs-modules and 2) the live-initramfs package doesn't recommend aufs-modules, which makes it broken by default |
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| 19:38.45 | sidi | hi there |
| 19:39.01 | nsadmin | just checked, there's a chain of about 2 or 3 includes that eventually get to that file with the constant in it |
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| 19:39.15 | sidi | I just installed debian lenny in a VM, ran apt-get update, and im lacking almost every package. I dont even have gcc or make in the package cache |
| 19:39.20 | sidi | Any idea what that can be ? |
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| 19:39.55 | CodeNinja | Kovensky: thats because most live-initramfs use unionfs, not aufs |
| 19:39.56 | nsadmin | !installit |
| 19:39.56 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
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| 19:40.05 | CodeNinja | it may have the option to, but it probably does not use it by default |
| 19:40.09 | Kovensky | CodeNinja: but live-initramfs uses aufs *by default* |
| 19:40.34 | nsadmin | sidi: quite possibly because those things aren't installed |
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| 19:40.52 | Kovensky | the manpage for the version 1.157.2-1 states that "*By default, live-initramfs uses aufs*. With this parameter, you can switch to unionfs." |
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| 19:41.08 | sidi | nsadmin: i mean that i dont find them when i do apt-cache search |
| 19:41.16 | stack | sidi: or because you are missing some repository |
| 19:41.22 | sidi | nsadmin: i'm quite sure that *even* debian stable has gcc :D |
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| 19:41.37 | sidi | stack: any idea which ? it's a default install of debian lenny (w/ kde, if it can help) |
| 19:41.48 | abrotman | sidi: put your sources.list in a pastebin |
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| 19:42.21 | abrotman | or join the channel again |
| 19:42.58 | nsadmin | sidi it does |
| 19:43.00 | CodeNinja | Kovensky: hm, still from what I've seen most, still use unionfs |
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| 19:43.36 | Kovensky | CodeNinja: probably older versions |
| 19:43.41 | Kovensky | or explictly giving that parameter |
| 19:43.48 | SiDi_ | http://pastebin.ca/1564542 here it is |
| 19:43.52 | CodeNinja | breadbox64 Contiki Client for the 8-bit Commodore personal computers with a network aware cartridge. <---- WTF a twitter client for the c64 |
| 19:43.58 | CodeNinja | sorry, not deb related but omg |
| 19:44.17 | sidi | i added contrib & non-free by hand, and lenny-backports too |
| 19:44.18 | nsadmin | so you don't have the main repo |
| 19:44.31 | sidi | nsadmin: isnt the default install meant to have the main repo ? :/ |
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| 19:44.44 | objorn | i'm told some packages were installed but are no longer requied, however, i would like to keep them. how can i remove the message? |
| 19:44.47 | uwjesd | I get error while loading shared library even though the file with the exact name is in my /usr/lib/ what can be wrong? Error I got was No such file or directory |
| 19:45.17 | nsadmin | sidi: not sure why it doesn't... what country are you in? |
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| 19:45.23 | nsadmin | or what's your country code |
| 19:45.24 | themill | sidi: if the network couldn't be contacted at install time, then you can end up with no main mirror. /msg dpkg mirrors |
| 19:45.24 | sidi | nsadmin: france |
| 19:45.40 | nsadmin | ping http.fr.debian.org |
| 19:45.44 | nsadmin | that exist? |
| 19:45.49 | xand | !no mailserver |
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| 19:46.24 | sidi | if i litterally write that, i get unknown hhost |
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| 19:47.17 | nsadmin | there's a ftp.fr.debian.org |
| 19:47.19 | nsadmin | let me see if it's a mirror |
| 19:47.44 | nsadmin | looks that way |
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| 19:47.55 | nsadmin | add this: |
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| 19:48.05 | sidi | http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/ seems to be that ? |
| 19:48.20 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:48.33 | sidi | deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free ? |
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| 19:48.54 | nsadmin | deb ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free |
| 19:49.06 | SiDi_ | okey, ty |
| 19:49.25 | nsadmin | let me see if http works too (it should) |
| 19:49.33 | DeSian | SiDi_, /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 19:49.38 | DeSian | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:49.43 | nsadmin | sire dpes |
| 19:49.49 | nsadmin | sure does |
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| 19:50.12 | DeSian | sry nsadmin u r the best ;) |
| 19:50.28 | nsadmin | deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free |
| 19:50.33 | SiDi_ | wow, thanks nsadmin |
| 19:50.39 | SiDi_ | you made my day |
| 19:50.43 | objorn | where can i get gtk? |
| 19:50.45 | nsadmin | is another choice (http is more efficient somehow) |
| 19:50.58 | sidi | adb: themill thanks too |
| 19:51.04 | nsadmin | if you want you can also add: |
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| 19:51.14 | nsadmin | deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free |
| 19:51.32 | diabel- | How to change that apt-get update will wget Sources.bz2 not Sources.gz |
| 19:51.32 | diabel- | ? |
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| 19:51.51 | CodeNinja | Kovensky: I assume you're building a livecd? Might I ask what guide you are following to do so? I've got a livecd that I'd like to build... :) |
| 19:52.02 | Kovensky | liveusb, actually |
| 19:52.08 | SiDi_ | thanks nsadmin, i dont think i'll need the sources though :) |
| 19:52.09 | DeSian | nsadmin, /msg dpkg sources.list doesn't enough him? |
| 19:52.10 | Kovensky | no guide ._. |
| 19:52.26 | Kovensky | I just debootstrapped a folder, installed live-initramfs (as it was a fork of casper) |
| 19:52.29 | Kovensky | installed kernel |
| 19:52.30 | nsadmin | DeSian I never looked |
| 19:52.53 | Kovensky | syslinuxed my disk, squashfsed the folder, put in /live/filesystem.squashfs |
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| 19:53.09 | CodeNinja | Kovensky: ._. |
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| 19:53.20 | CodeNinja | I want to build a livecd for work |
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| 19:53.39 | DeSian | CodeBlock, what is about debian live? |
| 19:53.51 | CodeNinja | DeSian: ? |
| 19:54.04 | DeSian | !tell CodeBlock about debian live |
| 19:54.05 | CodeNinja | oh, I should also note taht linux ftw.... a virus from a thumbdrive took out my works whole network of windows computers, but left my linux systems alone |
| 19:54.21 | CodeNinja | just 1 thumbdrive spread across the whole network |
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| 19:54.29 | CodeNinja | even caught a few people who were stealing our wifi |
| 19:54.39 | Kovensky | heh |
| 19:54.49 | Kovensky | has been caught by such network viruses a few time |
| 19:54.51 | benjamindees | take this opportunity to put Linux on all the desktops... |
| 19:54.56 | Kovensky | what can I do, I still need my games bootloader :P |
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| 19:55.25 | benjamindees | declare a war on terror, sieze control of the means of production, etc, etc... |
| 19:55.30 | CodeNinja | DeSian: also, that !tell didn't work :) |
| 19:55.49 | DeSian | ok then /meg dpkg debian live |
| 19:55.56 | CodeNinja | Kovensky: indeed, waiting for my boss to backup his data and then his will be deb based. our server is already deb based (it caught my bosses backup server Win2k3) |
| 19:55.58 | CodeNinja | I rofled |
| 19:56.00 | Arrowmaster | hmm i cant seem to be able to get a clean upgrade of xorg in testing, aptitude keeps finding something will break |
| 19:56.05 | benjamindees | use compiz for shock and awe |
| 19:56.30 | DeSian | Arrowmaster, apt-get clean? |
| 19:57.27 | DeSian | or aptitude >> Ctrl+T >> Cancel pending actions |
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| 19:59.23 | Gokee2 | Hello all, I am on Debian squeeze using KDE-4. Yesterday I upgraded to the most recent stuff and did a logout/login however now I can't copy text from any kde-4 apps. (It just does not appear in my paste buffer) Any idea why? Thanks |
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| 20:01.25 | objorn | i need gtk 2.14 or higher, how do i get it? |
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| 20:02.54 | objorn | i've done apt-cache search gtk, but that's a lot of output, and there doesn't seem to be a "gtk" package |
| 20:03.00 | DeSian | !tell objorn about apt-file |
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| 20:03.25 | CodeNinja | Gokee2: you need to talk to the kde4 dev team on oftc I think it is... |
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| 20:03.52 | murdoc-is-god | So I used d-i to set up dm-crypt encrypted LVM logical volumes |
| 20:04.07 | murdoc-is-god | There is a /dev/mapper/sda2_crypt which is unlocked by a passphrase |
| 20:04.22 | Gokee2 | CodeNinja, Ok, I will go ever there then |
| 20:04.23 | murdoc-is-god | But my LVM physical volume is called /dev/dm-0 |
| 20:04.38 | murdoc-is-god | I |
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| 20:05.02 | murdoc-is-god | I think... the entire partition of /dev/sda2 is encrypted via dm-crypt |
| 20:05.08 | murdoc-is-god | which creates a dm-0 device? |
| 20:05.12 | murdoc-is-god | And that is made into the PV? |
| 20:05.15 | Kovensky | gmm |
| 20:05.27 | Kovensky | how to prevent live-initramfs from auto-login? |
| 20:05.31 | murdoc-is-god | I'm trying to install a new hard drive and use LVM and dm-crypt on it, and I'm not sure the best way to do that. |
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| 20:05.43 | litwol|mac | darn |
| 20:05.48 | litwol|mac | i screwed up permissions on my box |
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| 20:06.44 | litwol|mac | is there a tool that can fix my file system permissions ? |
| 20:06.49 | litwol|mac | reset it to default .. ? |
| 20:06.53 | objorn | the bot told me to use aptitude instaed of apt-get, why? is it a preference? a listing of advantages and disadvantages would be nice |
| 20:07.15 | litwol|mac | graphical vs commandline |
| 20:07.23 | themill | objorn: /msg dpkg why aptitude |
| 20:07.36 | DeSian | !tell objorn why aptitude |
| 20:08.03 | DeSian | !tell objorn why aptitude |
| 20:08.17 | DeSian | !tell objorn why not aptitude |
| 20:08.37 | litwol|mac | !tell litwol|mac why aptitude |
| 20:08.42 | litwol|mac | !tell litwol|mac why not aptitude |
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| 20:08.58 | litwol|mac | !why aptitude |
| 20:08.58 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution than other tools, it has far more advanced searching available, read /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README for more info. Aptitude can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
| 20:09.17 | litwol|mac | !why not aptitude |
| 20:09.17 | dpkg | aptitude duplicates several of APT's features. It also has many more frontend-specific bugs. Despite the slogan, it is quite heavy, in part due to the mix of several front-ends in a single binary package and duplication. |
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| 20:10.15 | xsdg | anyone know of a program like scp/rcp that will do proper authentication, but will perform the rest of the session in plaintext? I'd like a backend for rsync that doesn't make my transfers CPU-bound |
| 20:11.08 | xyan | xsdg: ftp with tls auth? |
| 20:11.43 | xsdg | xyan: the question is if there's a way to make rsync use that as a backend |
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| 20:12.25 | simonrvn | !tell litwol|mac -about msg the bot |
| 20:12.52 | retry | can anybody help me to install the +spu1 packages for mysql? |
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| 20:13.07 | xsdg | xyan: you can set USE_RSH to whatever you want, but it needs to support some subset of rsh's options, iirc |
| 20:13.08 | retry | I tried apt-get -s install libmysqlclient15off=5.0.51a-24+lenny2+spu1 |
| 20:13.13 | retry | but it just says the version is not found |
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| 20:13.22 | CodeNinja | is there any way to get help specifically about building a custom debian live cd or should I ask here? |
| 20:13.27 | retry | http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/main/m/mysql-dfsg-5.0/ <-- yet it is in here |
| 20:13.35 | retry | along with the rest of the +spu1 debs |
| 20:13.58 | benjamindees | objorn: basically aptitude has some fuzzy non-deterministic dependency resolution that tends to work better for the average user who installs random stuff from different repositories. also it will handle packages that are just 'recommended' instead of specifically required. |
| 20:14.13 | retry | CodeNinja: http://www.hermann-uwe.de/blog/building-custom-debian-live-cds-with-live-helper-live-magic |
| 20:14.21 | xsdg | retry: do you need to apt-get update? |
| 20:14.27 | retry | nope |
| 20:14.37 | xyan | xsdg: maybe implement a client in perl then with libfile-rsync-perl |
| 20:14.38 | xsdg | retry: also, `apt-cache show <package>` will show you all the versions that apt thinks are available |
| 20:14.54 | xsdg | xyan: hmm |
| 20:15.03 | retry | well yeah but dpkg-query -l will show specific available versions |
| 20:15.07 | CodeNinja | retry: thanks |
| 20:15.09 | retry | I noticed that the +spu1 is not listed |
| 20:15.25 | xsdg | retry: it may not be in the Packages.gz yet |
| 20:15.26 | retry | CodeNinja, np, but try google yourself next time |
| 20:15.34 | xsdg | retry: maybe try some queries at packages.d.o? |
| 20:15.36 | retry | xsdg, ah quite possible |
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| 20:15.55 | retry | xsdg, what's that? |
| 20:16.01 | twisted` | I just made a raid with mdadm but I realised I want more disks to be part, how do I destroy the old one and create a new one? |
| 20:16.05 | xsdg | retry: packages.debian.org |
| 20:16.19 | xsdg | twisted`: mdadm -S /dev/mdN |
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| 20:16.32 | retry | oh the site? I did that and think they are there... |
| 20:16.32 | retry | lemme check again |
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| 20:16.34 | xsdg | make sure you don't stop the wrong one :o) |
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| 20:16.44 | xsdg | retry: if so, you may want to try a different mirror |
| 20:16.54 | twisted` | xsdg: kewl, then I can just recreate the array? |
| 20:16.57 | dkay | hello, can someone tell me how to set up nullmailer to send mails to googlemail? gmail? |
| 20:16.59 | retry | hmm but the pkgs are ON the mirror |
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| 20:17.03 | retry | that I am browsing |
| 20:17.20 | xsdg | twisted`: yeah |
| 20:17.30 | simonrvn | retry: you're not paying attention |
| 20:17.32 | retry | ok spu1 is not on the site actually |
| 20:17.58 | twisted` | xsdg: awesome |
| 20:18.08 | twisted` | didn't know raid was so easy with mdadm |
| 20:18.18 | xsdg | yup, mdadm is pretty nice |
| 20:18.35 | twisted` | yeah it seems so |
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| 20:20.23 | dkay | someone knows how to set up nullmailer and can tell me how to set up nullmailer to send mails to gmail or googlemail = |
| 20:20.23 | retry | so if the spu1 pkgs exist but probably won't become the current release for a while, does that mean the only way to install is manual download and use dpkg? |
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| 20:20.59 | objorn | thank you for mentioning apt-file, but it doesn't help me in finding gtk 2.14 |
| 20:21.15 | hmmhmm | hey ,, cant i create a dir in my home folder and then use schroot to run a single app that has root in that empty folder ? |
| 20:21.28 | DeSian | objorn, lenny ? |
| 20:21.36 | hmmhmm | or does all the app etc need to be in that dir ? |
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| 20:21.50 | objorn | DeSian: yes |
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| 20:24.22 | DeSian | objorn, r u need it for compiling? |
| 20:24.47 | objorn | DeSian: i don't understand the question, i just need it installed :P |
| 20:25.07 | objorn | i'm guessing it's a library of files |
| 20:26.22 | DeSian | but need you this version for what, by compiling is better that you run "apt-get build-dep package" |
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| 20:27.00 | objorn | libgtk2.0-0 - The GTK+ graphical user interface library |
| 20:27.05 | objorn | there she blows |
| 20:27.12 | objorn | now i need the updated v. of that |
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| 20:28.31 | DeSian | let us now what say the message about this F*** llibgtk? |
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| 20:29.24 | DelphiWorld | hello all |
| 20:29.28 | DeSian | hy |
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| 20:29.32 | DelphiWorld | debian5 have 4 or 5 DVD's? |
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| 20:30.19 | zinx | DelphiWorld: http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/ |
| 20:30.21 | ajavid | ok |
| 20:30.26 | ajavid | good afternoon peoples of the debian world |
| 20:30.34 | ajavid | fantastic news (sarcasm() |
| 20:30.38 | CodeNinja | anyone have any recommendations on a backup utility that I can run from a live cd to backup the data on the system being run on to an external device and be able to restore in relatively the same way? |
| 20:30.38 | ajavid | !dbugs #544629 |
| 20:30.42 | dpkg | #544629:N[wnpp] O: sun-java6 -- Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (); Wed, 02 Sep 2009 00:09:12 UTC [] |
| 20:30.43 | DelphiWorld | thanks |
| 20:30.55 | ajavid | sun-java6* orphaned! |
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| 20:31.00 | ajavid | sun-java5 phased out |
| 20:31.46 | ajavid | I guess its time |
| 20:31.51 | ajavid | !openjdk |
| 20:31.51 | dpkg | OpenJDK is Sun's open source release of <Java>. All required functionality (according to the J2SE spec) is present but some optional stuff is missing and some stuff uses different implementations from Sun's binary JDK. Install the openjdk-6-jre package for the runtime environment or openjdk-6-jdk for the development kit. http://www.sun.com/software/opensource/java/faq.jsp http://openjdk.java.net/ #openjdk on irc.oftc.net. |
| 20:31.55 | ajavid | switch now. :) |
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| 20:32.54 | k-t | is anyone actually using pidgin >= 2.6.2 ? |
| 20:33.00 | ajavid | nope |
| 20:33.06 | benjamindees | CodeNinja, fdisk, mkfs, chroot, and tar |
| 20:33.07 | ajavid | uses Yoono in IW |
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| 20:33.31 | CodeNinja | benjamindees: eh... o.o |
| 20:34.04 | bis | someone know how to let a rtl8180 as ap ?? |
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| 20:34.58 | benjamindees | CodeNinja, they are stable and always work, and are on most live CDs |
| 20:35.01 | DeSian | yahoo is bad |
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| 20:35.17 | klotfare | !update |
| 20:35.17 | dpkg | update is probably apt-get update, grabs the Packages.gz files from their sources and refreshes the available packages. Use before an apt-get upgrade or before looking for stuff with apt-cache search. |
| 20:35.58 | CodeNinja | benjamindees: I'm making a custom live cd, looking for something that can either do incremental and can specify specific folders at runtime |
| 20:36.41 | DeSian | CodeBlock, http://wiki.debian.org/LiveCD |
| 20:37.29 | benjamindees | CodeNinja: rsync can do incremental backups; tar can specify specific folders :) |
| 20:38.00 | macrobat | k-t: /msg dpkg popcon and /msg judd versions pidgin :) |
| 20:38.36 | CodeNinja | DeSian: I'm already working with some live cd links... but thats not what I'm after right now , I'm after an application that can do backups and what not |
| 20:39.00 | DeSian | CodeBlock, google? |
| 20:39.09 | k-t | macrobat: sorry i don't quite follow |
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| 20:41.29 | blami | anyone from "multiarch" project? |
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| 20:42.26 | folken | CodeNinja: i like ccollect |
| 20:42.47 | CodeNinja | DeSian: already checking... |
| 20:42.57 | CodeNinja | and its CodeNinja not CodeBlock :P |
| 20:43.07 | macrobat | k-t: popcon shows how many users a pkg has, jud tells you what versions of the pkg there is in stable, testing etcetera |
| 20:43.11 | _stack | I'm trying to re enable ctrl+alt+backspace in squeeze, but none of these methods worked for me, any suggestion? http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=38046 |
| 20:43.24 | _stack | also ctrl+c doesn't work properly in X |
| 20:43.42 | k-t | macrobat: ohh... well if it were up to " SYS " -- everyone would use bsflite,pork, etc... -- even NAIM would be inappropriate. |
| 20:44.57 | k-t | im sure pidgin in stable lenny is 2.2 |
| 20:45.02 | macrobat | idk, i find pidgin hard to use, i think it focuses on emoticon management |
| 20:45.21 | k-t | my mistake - 2.4 |
| 20:45.27 | k-t | =\ |
| 20:45.41 | k-t | macrobat: and your preference is? |
| 20:46.27 | macrobat | right now i dont do much im, i mostly used amsn |
| 20:46.47 | folken | macrobat: try bitlee its an irc to client. |
| 20:47.00 | folken | im client |
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| 20:47.21 | k-t | honestly - i seriously dig bsflite - but when you have friends/associates on win32/macos it makes it hard to do enhanced communication... e.g. video-chat, file transfer, etc... |
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| 20:47.29 | arcsky | anyone know how i can set my eth1 to eth0 and vice versa? |
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| 20:47.33 | k-t | macOS* |
| 20:48.12 | abrotman | arcsky: /msg dpkg 70 |
| 20:48.15 | abrotman | or ifrename |
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| 20:48.38 | arcsky | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.39 | JyZyXEL | In order to build dzen you need the Xlib header files. |
| 20:48.43 | JyZyXEL | in which package do those come? |
| 20:48.55 | folken | arcsky: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
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| 20:48.58 | abrotman | !tell JyZyXEL about search |
| 20:49.01 | abrotman | !tell JyZyXEL about apt-file |
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| 20:49.12 | arcsky | thanks |
| 20:49.13 | JyZyXEL | yea but theres like a fuckload of xlib packages |
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| 20:49.39 | folken | JyZyXEL: xorg-dev |
| 20:49.54 | DeSian | BRB* |
| 20:50.14 | abrotman | JyZyXEL: so learn how to find the right one .. quit being so damn lazy |
| 20:50.43 | k-t | is this part of this network/chan: http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php?author=themill |
| 20:50.48 | JyZyXEL | yea you find it by asking |
| 20:50.53 | ajavid | k-t, yes |
| 20:50.58 | ajavid | !dpkg.web.search |
| 20:50.58 | dpkg | Pick my brains at http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php or ask me about <help listkeys>, <help-listvals> or <search>. Also, my factoids are available at http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ in archives that are updated nightly and the previous 18 days are archived. |
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| 20:51.13 | abrotman | JyZyXEL: you need to learn how to answer your own questions .. you never even try to figure anything out on your own |
| 20:51.36 | JyZyXEL | i tried |
| 20:51.37 | k-t | sweet |
| 20:51.41 | JyZyXEL | apt-cache search xlib |
| 20:51.43 | abrotman | JyZyXEL: really? what did you rty? |
| 20:51.45 | abrotman | try |
| 20:52.02 | JyZyXEL | also apt-get install xlib-dev |
| 20:52.09 | ajavid | hm |
| 20:52.16 | abrotman | why do i even care .. you'll never learn anything ... |
| 20:52.29 | JyZyXEL | exactly |
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| 20:52.50 | abrotman | you know just as little now as you did when you first started coming here |
| 20:52.51 | ajavid | http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php?q=stoned&term=author http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php?q=Nyle&term=author http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php?q=ajavid&term=author <- hehe, cool. I had forgotten a lot of the factoids I created over time, very useful. themill has a looooooong list. |
| 20:52.56 | ajavid | jeez themill |
| 20:53.04 | ajavid | themill, good stuff buddy |
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| 20:54.27 | ajavid | http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php?q=abrotman&term=author <-- looooong |
| 20:54.30 | ajavid | :) |
| 20:54.54 | Tapout | sigh I always forget; how do I figure out which package gave 'ip' bin? |
| 20:55.00 | Tapout | bimary |
| 20:55.03 | abrotman | !tell Tapout about apt-file |
| 20:55.04 | ajavid | themill, apt-file search |
| 20:55.09 | ajavid | Tapout, ^ |
| 20:55.10 | k-t | and lastly: heres my prob... i have two partitions, win32/debian... i created my debFS without swap and later found out that i regret it. So, without any available space on /dev/sda, i created a partition on /dev/sda3 successfully ((the debian parition)) , though after writing the table in fdisk, the system required a reboot to activate. After a reboot... the parition listed in /dev/sda3 as sda3p1, but no actual existence was ever created |
| 20:55.18 | k-t | ds were unable to process my request... =\ |
| 20:55.24 | Tapout | thanks boys |
| 20:55.27 | ajavid | k-t, you can create a swap file. |
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| 20:55.55 | ajavid | !swap |
| 20:55.55 | dpkg | it has been said that swap is RAM you wish you had. Generally it is said that for low amounts of RAM, you should have twice the RAM as swap. You don't have to have a swap partition either, as you can always create a <swap file> and use that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swap_space#Swapping_in_Linux |
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| 20:56.20 | ajavid | k-t, you don't have to have a sep. swap partition |
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| 20:56.24 | Tapout | hrmm.. Can't get http://mirrors.service.softlayer.com/debian-security/dists/lenny/updates/Contents-amd64.gz |
| 20:56.27 | k-t | the swap file thats not actually a partition but a file, right? |
| 20:56.41 | ajavid | k-t, yes its a file you mount it as swap |
| 20:57.14 | ajavid | kt dd if=/dev/zero of=/swap.file.name.here bs=1024 count=65536 |
| 20:57.22 | ajavid | k-t, mkswap /swap.file.name.here |
| 20:57.43 | ajavid | k-t, swapon /swap.file.name.here |
| 20:57.45 | philthno2 | hi, I want to build and install XBMC. I ran "configure" but want to create a deb if possible. I remember there were tools to generate a deb instead of running "make install", can someone give me a hint? |
| 20:57.46 | TrueDD | is away: Occupé |
| 20:57.55 | ajavid | lastly |
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| 20:58.06 | abrotman | !tell philthno2 about mh |
| 20:58.06 | abrotman | g |
| 20:58.07 | k-t | ajavid: must the file be located at top level " / " |
| 20:58.07 | ajavid | k-t, to enable it in fstab on system boot, edit /etc/fstab |
| 20:58.09 | abrotman | !tell TrueDD about away |
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| 20:58.14 | ajavid | k-t, no |
| 20:58.15 | objorn | !non-free |
| 20:58.15 | dpkg | from memory, non-free is a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 20:58.15 | abrotman | !tell philthno2 about mg |
| 20:58.19 | ajavid | k-t, could be loated ANY where |
| 20:58.22 | ajavid | located * |
| 20:58.28 | k-t | great! |
| 20:58.31 | k-t | thanks guys |
| 20:58.32 | ajavid | k-t, just make sure to specify correct path |
| 20:58.38 | k-t | =P |
| 20:58.51 | TrueDD | is back (gone 00:01:05) |
| 20:58.54 | philthno2 | !mg |
| 20:58.54 | dpkg | A simple packaging walkthrough can be found by (as root) "apt-get install maint-guide" and then (as user) "www-browser /usr/share/doc/maint-guide/maint-guide.en.html/index.html" (or http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ online). Also ask me about <nmg>. 'Mg' is also the chemical symbol for magnesium, or may mean Madagascar. |
| 20:58.58 | ajavid | k-t, /swapfile swap swap defaults 0 0 |
| 20:59.07 | ajavid | k-t, for /etc/fstab (something like that anyway) |
| 20:59.11 | TrueDD | sorry |
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| 20:59.23 | philthno2 | !mh |
| 20:59.23 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, mh is funky chickens, man. good stuff. Marshall Islands |
| 20:59.35 | k-t | that sounds about right... |
| 20:59.48 | ajavid | k-t, good luck |
| 20:59.54 | abrotman | philthno2: the bot already told .. there's no need to flood the channel |
| 20:59.59 | abrotman | told you |
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| 21:00.10 | k-t | thanks, and with your help ajavid: i'll need no luck... =P |
| 21:00.16 | ajavid | :) |
| 21:00.16 | philthno2 | abrotman, no, at least I cannot find it. |
| 21:00.29 | ajavid | k-t, careful. My ego can be inflated VERY easily ;) |
| 21:00.32 | philthno2 | abrotman, sorry I see! |
| 21:00.34 | ajavid | j/k |
| 21:00.34 | abrotman | philthno2: unless you've blocked the bot, you should learn how to use your IRC client |
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| 21:01.43 | atirjavid | alright, I have to go get Trac setup... I been procrastinating for some time now... if you need me, hilight me. |
| 21:02.30 | atirjavid | dhodgkin, I'm finally on it ^^ |
| 21:02.33 | atirjavid | :) |
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| 21:05.14 | objorn | Package <package> is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 21:05.20 | anothergit | I'm having some trouble installing debian on my g5 imac |
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| 21:05.44 | anothergit | typing install or install video=ofonly both give crashes at open firmware |
| 21:05.46 | abrotman | anothergit: we'd need more details (and there is a #debianppc on OFTC) |
| 21:05.54 | abrotman | objorn: and what ? |
| 21:06.12 | objorn | when i do aptitude search <package> i'm shown a "c" or a "p" beside the package names, what does that mean? |
| 21:06.23 | objorn | abrotman: abrotman i just didn't understand the message |
| 21:06.34 | objorn | what it means, i'm used to instructions following :) |
| 21:06.35 | abrotman | objorn: which version of debian? which package ? |
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| 21:08.19 | ajavid | objorn, aptitude package states |
| 21:08.25 | ajavid | objorn, install aptitude-doc |
| 21:08.42 | ajavid | I don't think its in the man. |
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| 21:09.33 | neoice | does anyone have experience using a centralized authorized_keys? |
| 21:09.36 | ajavid | objorn, http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s02s02.html |
| 21:09.54 | ajavid | objorn, http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s02s02.html#figureCurrentFlag specifically |
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| 21:11.24 | catsup | neoice: centralized?? |
| 21:12.17 | neoice | catsup: yeah, I saw some stuff about using something like "AuthorizedKeysFile /etc/ssh/authorized_keys" to centrally manage keys |
| 21:12.31 | neoice | but it looks like you can log in as any user then :P |
| 21:13.16 | catsup | neoice: i don't think it works that way. your authorizedkeysfile contains %h to indicate the home directory of the user to authenticate |
| 21:13.36 | catsup | neoice: i imagine that if you omit the %h then ssh will fail with some sort of permissions error on the file |
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| 21:14.07 | neoice | catsup: not if root owns it, no. but it will allow you to log in as anyone you feel like |
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| 21:14.37 | catsup | you tried that? |
| 21:15.56 | neoice | yeah, I'm experimenting on my dev machine |
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| 21:16.09 | catsup | i wouldn't have expected sshd to allow the file to be owned by the wrong user |
| 21:16.22 | ajavid | AuthUserFile /some/path/htpasswd <- for trac this is the same as the one specified in dav_svn.conf ? |
| 21:16.22 | catsup | i would call it a bug :| |
| 21:16.22 | neoice | you can restrict the SSHkeys with "from=host", but that ONLY works for hosts |
| 21:16.25 | ajavid | I think...? |
| 21:16.53 | ajavid | I should think so, to be able to sync the users on both trac/svn |
| 21:16.59 | catsup | neoice: what are you trying to do anyway? |
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| 21:17.40 | neoice | catsup: I'm using puppet to manage a bunch of hosts, so I'd like to have an easy way to manage ssh keys. one file makes it simple. |
| 21:17.49 | catsup | haha |
| 21:18.03 | neoice | especially since the Debian SSH maintainer is adament against the LDAP public key patch |
| 21:18.15 | catsup | why not have one directory |
| 21:18.19 | catsup | but a separate file per user |
| 21:18.30 | neoice | that was my next idea :P |
| 21:18.41 | neoice | its not quite as nice, but it would work |
| 21:19.34 | catsup | you are taking power away from the user accounts either way |
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| 21:22.11 | CodeNinja | when building a live cd: I get this cp: cannot stat `chroot/boot/vmlinuz-*': No such file or directory how can I fix that? |
| 21:22.36 | CodeNinja | I can't copy my /boot/vmlinux-* there can I? |
| 21:22.57 | catsup | i guess security as well, since the person with the private key cannot change his key on a remote system in case his key is compromised |
| 21:23.37 | catsup | CodeNinja: not enough info |
| 21:23.57 | CodeNinja | catsup: thats all the error message says |
| 21:24.04 | CodeNinja | during lh_build |
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| 21:26.00 | catsup | well i guess you are using debian-live then |
| 21:26.17 | catsup | i mean live-helper |
| 21:26.34 | CodeNinja | yes |
| 21:26.35 | catsup | that's important info ;) |
| 21:27.16 | CodeNinja | oh :P |
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| 21:27.42 | CodeNinja | I'm starting from lh_clean --purge and re-running lh_config, lh_build |
| 21:27.45 | catsup | i duno the problem though, manually copying some kernels might not be a bad idea, but they have to be the right ones |
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| 21:28.13 | catsup | (especially you need initrd with debian-live on it) |
| 21:28.26 | objorn | ajavid: life saver |
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| 21:29.13 | ajavid | huh? |
| 21:29.20 | objorn | the link you sent me |
| 21:29.25 | ajavid | objorn, can I help you? |
| 21:29.26 | ajavid | oh |
| 21:29.26 | CodeNinja | catsup: this is my first time building a live cd, I think I've got the idea... will see :) |
| 21:29.31 | ajavid | ohhh, nm. ok you're welcome |
| 21:29.45 | ajavid | (sorry I forgot) |
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| 21:32.30 | CodeNinja | I think I am going to have to start this again.... I forgot a package :S |
| 21:32.47 | Hosein-mec | hi , how much download " pbuilder --create " command ? |
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| 21:37.55 | objorn | here's the problem: http://pastebin.com/m7bdc84f2 |
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| 21:41.16 | catsup | objorn: so install the dependency |
| 21:41.32 | objorn | it's self-referencing itself as a dependency it looks like |
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| 21:41.51 | endra | hey, I added a secondary hard drive and want to automount it on startup. Do I use fstab or something else for debian? If I use fstab, what options should I put for ext3? |
| 21:41.55 | catsup | # |
| 21:41.58 | catsup | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.09 | catsup | that's not self-referencing |
| 21:43.01 | catsup | endra: yeah, fstab. for options just put 'rw' |
| 21:43.52 | objorn | but look at what i'm trying to install.. dpkg -i libopencascade-foundation-dev_6.3.0.dfsg.1-3_all.deb |
| 21:44.06 | objorn | exactly what it's asking for |
| 21:44.10 | catsup | uhh, no |
| 21:44.18 | catsup | it'as sking for "libopencascade-foundation-6.3.0" |
| 21:44.30 | catsup | and you're giving it "libopencascade-foundation-dev" |
| 21:44.41 | catsup | the string following the underscore in the .deb filename is a version number |
| 21:44.47 | catsup | but "libopencascade-foundation-6.3.0" is a package name |
| 21:44.52 | oxi | hi |
| 21:45.03 | endra | catsup: I'll use defaults |
| 21:45.09 | oxi | Shouldn't this create a symlink?: dh_link /usr/share/java/derby-10.5.3.0.jar /usr/share/java/derby.jar |
| 21:45.09 | endra | catsup: thanks |
| 21:45.10 | catsup | the package you want is probably named "libopencascade-foundation-6.3.0_6.3.0.dfsg.1-.deb" |
| 21:45.14 | oxi | ls /usr/share/java/derby.jar |
| 21:45.14 | oxi | ls: cannot access /usr/share/java/derby.jar: No such file or directory |
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| 21:51.48 | catsup | /quit |
| 21:52.04 | CodeNinja | fail |
| 21:52.05 | CodeNinja | :P |
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| 21:54.34 | objorn | catsup: i think i found the file: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/libopencascade-foundation-6.3.0 but i'm not sure how to get it |
| 21:54.49 | catsup | lol |
| 21:54.55 | catsup | use apt-get |
| 21:55.34 | objorn | git://git.debian.org/git/debian-science/packages/opencascade.git |
| 21:55.39 | catsup | haha |
| 21:55.40 | catsup | dude |
| 21:55.41 | objorn | i think i have to grab that |
| 21:55.56 | catsup | go to a terminal and type "aptitude install opencascade" |
| 21:56.01 | objorn | i'm not using squeeze, do i can't |
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| 21:56.15 | catsup | oh |
| 21:56.19 | jazotic | dpkg -i `wget ...` |
| 21:56.20 | dpkg | installs `wget ...` into jazotic's head with a bone saw and a few screws |
| 21:56.24 | Titan8990 | !tell objorn about ssb |
| 21:56.59 | jazotic | haha |
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| 21:59.12 | catsup | is there anywhere to download the dpkg answers file? |
| 21:59.20 | silidan | my problem: sound very choppy, debian lenny, notebook gericom masterpiece xl 2540 (G732 ) sis7012 ac97 onboard sound, qjackctrl reports masses of xruns, it seems to be the same problem like o here again my problem: sound very choppy, debian lenny, notebook gericom masterpiece xl 2540 (G732 ) sis7012 ac97 onboard sound any help welcome |
| 21:59.22 | catsup | i mean the dpkg bot in this channel of course |
| 22:00.00 | silidan | my problem: sound very choppy, debian lenny, notebook gericom masterpiece xl 2540 (G732 ) sis7012 ac97 onboard sound, qjackctrl reports masses of xruns, it seems to be the same problem like http://directpro.com/linux-alsa-devel/39137-alsa-driver-0002016-choppy-skippy-sound-onboard-sis-si7012-controller.html any help welcome |
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| 22:00.32 | objorn | Titan8990: dpkg tells me 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list, however, i'm not using sid |
| 22:00.33 | silidan | o and sound works fine on windows, so it cant be a hardware problem |
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| 22:00.53 | jazotic | silidan, dont seem to be a masterpiece then.. :) |
| 22:01.02 | catsup | hm, found this http://dpkg.vireo.org/search.php |
| 22:01.16 | silidan | jazotic: altough this is not a help for me i aggree |
| 22:01.35 | catsup | oh here's the dl http://rzlab.ucr.edu/~dpkg/ |
| 22:01.42 | jazotic | silidan, probs with just alsa? |
| 22:02.01 | silidan | no, seems a general problem |
| 22:02.09 | DeSian_ | any backports expert her to understand this error by backports http://paste.debian.net/46456/plain/46456 |
| 22:02.12 | jazotic | hmm. chipset? |
| 22:02.32 | silidan | sis |
| 22:02.33 | Hosein-mec | i Compiled a package & made a deb file with debuild. but dependency version of deb file is different from that i set i debian/control file |
| 22:02.35 | jazotic | lspci |
| 22:02.43 | Kovensky | I think I got almost everything working |
| 22:02.44 | Hosein-mec | this is debian/control file: |
| 22:02.46 | Hosein-mec | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/139655/ |
| 22:02.51 | silidan | SiS962 |
| 22:02.51 | Kovensky | missing is live-sn support ._> |
| 22:03.09 | Kovensky | apparently, persistent-path isn't working |
| 22:03.11 | Hosein-mec | and this is info of deb file: |
| 22:03.11 | Hosein-mec | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/139657/ |
| 22:03.19 | Hosein-mec | any help ? |
| 22:03.21 | silidan | wait that was the isa bridge |
| 22:03.23 | Kovensky | is keeping everything on a subfolder |
| 22:03.50 | silidan | SiS645DX Host & Memory & AGP Controller |
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| 22:04.43 | objorn | jazotic: i'm confused about dpkg -i 'wget ...' but it seems like it might be helpful |
| 22:04.58 | objorn | does it just install .deb source files? or can it also do git repos? |
| 22:05.09 | macrobat | DeSian_: i think the pidgin versions are the same in lenny bpo and in lenny |
| 22:05.18 | objorn | e.g. git://git.debian.org/git/debian-science/packages/opencascade.git |
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| 22:05.28 | silidan | o and this problem seems a general linux problem, every distro i tried had the same sound issue |
| 22:05.33 | jazotic | objorn, wget the package and install w/ dpkg -i - it may show problems w/ dependencies. |
| 22:05.37 | DeSian_ | macrobat, no |
| 22:05.42 | macrobat | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.48 | jazotic | silidan, still checking... |
| 22:06.27 | macrobat | DeSian_: try to install the dependencies from backports first |
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| 22:07.02 | jazotic | silidan, lenny? kernel version? |
| 22:07.22 | macrobat | DeSian_: apt-get tries to install then from regula rlenny |
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| 22:08.55 | DeSian_ | macrobat, http://paste.debian.net/46458/plain/46458 |
| 22:09.09 | silidan | jazotic: no its actually sid with 2.6.30-1-686 |
| 22:09.37 | objorn | here's the dpkg -i 'wget ...' command being put to use... with errors: http://dpaste.com/93209/ |
| 22:10.24 | CodeNinja | how can I build a livecd for i386 on a 686 kernel? |
| 22:10.39 | jazotic | objorn, download it and .. then dpkg -i |
| 22:10.45 | abrotman | wtf .. don't do that |
| 22:10.59 | abrotman | do NOT mix versoins of debian unless you know exactly what you're doing |
| 22:11.09 | abrotman | !tell objorn about ssb |
| 22:11.12 | Kovensky | CodeNinja: use a -386 kernel, use the i386 arch? |
| 22:11.13 | macrobat | DeSian_: then, try pidgin-data first |
| 22:11.20 | abrotman | objorn: and even that probably won't work so well |
| 22:11.29 | Kovensky | CodeNinja: at least I suppose most packages should work under i386, since the arch is labeled like that ._. |
| 22:11.29 | jazotic | abrotman, works well often - but not always - i agree |
| 22:11.36 | abrotman | no it doesn't |
| 22:11.50 | Arrowmaster | you dont mix stable with anything other than stable-backports |
| 22:11.59 | CodeNinja | Kovensky: so I need to get the 386 kernel, boot to it, then do the livehelper build/config? |
| 22:12.04 | Arrowmaster | you can mix testing and unstable if you know what you are doing |
| 22:12.05 | DeSian_ | macrobat, http://paste.debian.net/46459/ |
| 22:12.12 | DeSian_ | the same |
| 22:12.19 | objorn | jazotic: i just don't think you can do dpkg -i to the contents of that file |
| 22:12.23 | Kovensky | oh, you're using livehelper |
| 22:12.30 | CodeNinja | Kovensky: yeah |
| 22:12.39 | jazotic | objorn, its a deb isn't it? |
| 22:12.40 | Kovensky | isn't |
| 22:12.42 | Kovensky | though I probably should |
| 22:12.43 | Kovensky | :P |
| 22:12.43 | CodeNinja | oh :( |
| 22:12.46 | objorn | jazotic: no |
| 22:12.53 | objorn | it's a bunch of files, source based |
| 22:13.11 | objorn | i'm going through the instructions to install it based on the readmes in the packages |
| 22:13.14 | CodeNinja | its pretty straight forward and relatively simple to use, some issues here and thee... I need this live cd to work for any system though, so 686 probably wouldn't work |
| 22:13.22 | jazotic | i see. bad luck. |
| 22:13.25 | macrobat | DeSian_: pidgin-data dont forget the -data |
| 22:13.37 | jazotic | make? |
| 22:13.45 | objorn | jazotic: yes |
| 22:13.54 | ranix | I have a somewhat off-topic question. Does anyone else have a problem with their PC speakers where the cord chronically fails to sit right in the sound card jack and makes an annoying ass buzzing noise, or one channel gets muted? |
| 22:13.58 | Kovensky | hurf |
| 22:14.06 | ranix | what should I do to permanently rectify that problem? |
| 22:14.08 | Kovensky | apparently, live-initramfs is borked |
| 22:14.15 | Kovensky | I can't make persistent-path work in any way |
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| 22:14.28 | benjamindees | CodeNinja: I have some really old computers, and even I haven't used a 386 in a few years. |
| 22:14.28 | abrotman | guesses he could actually just install the packages |
| 22:14.31 | CodeNinja | Kovensky: live-helper ftw :) |
| 22:14.38 | Kovensky | live-helper uses live-initramfs |
| 22:14.45 | CodeNinja | benjamindees: so a 686 arch should work on practically any system I work on? |
| 22:14.46 | Kovensky | it's just that I'm trying to keep *everything* in a subfolder |
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| 22:14.53 | Kovensky | but apparently I'll have to compromise on live-sn |
| 22:15.05 | CodeNinja | nvm, I got my answer |
| 22:15.10 | benjamindees | CodeNinja, no but a 486 will almost assuredly |
| 22:15.43 | Kovensky | 686 is anything that has MMX |
| 22:15.51 | CodeNinja | benjamindees: 686 started around 2000, most system I touch are newer than 2000 |
| 22:15.51 | Kovensky | 586 is pentium |
| 22:15.51 | objorn | what is ssb? |
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| 22:16.00 | silidan | jazotic: mybe this info is also important, on boot up i get a BIOS bug, 8... (3 more numbers i dont remember) timer not coneccted to IO ACPI |
| 22:16.04 | CodeNinja | and if I do find a system thats older than 2000, I suggest a new system |
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| 22:16.28 | DeSian_ | yes macrobat is the same sh** downgraed and upgraded again and again and again |
| 22:16.41 | DeSian_ | have look her http://paste.debian.net/46460/ |
| 22:16.51 | Kovensky | yep, putting the snapshot in the root folder works |
| 22:16.56 | benjamindees | it wouldn't be unheard of to run into a 586 running as a firewall or something I think |
| 22:17.16 | benjamindees | in fact my miniatx box requires 586 |
| 22:17.34 | benjamindees | er, mini itx rather |
| 22:18.03 | CodeNinja | aw WTF |
| 22:18.11 | CodeNinja | E: Architecture not yet supported (FIXME) |
| 22:18.31 | CodeNinja | specifying and not specifying architecture |
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| 22:18.57 | Kovensky | --arch=i386 |
| 22:19.25 | jazotic | silidan, hardware doesnt look too odd. acpi=off, see /usr/src/<version>/kernel_parameters.txt ; maybe check con kolivas patches http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/ but it's quite some work/kernel recompile. |
| 22:19.59 | LobbyZ | What would make a debian VPS not boot? |
| 22:20.08 | CodeNinja | Kovensky: yeah, and when it gets lower down during lh_build it errors out... when it gets back there I'll paste the message |
| 22:20.48 | macrobat | DeSian_: 1) pidgin-data 2) libpurple 3) pidgin. if that doesnt help then try aptitude remove pidgin and its deps first. if that doesnt help, read about pinning |
| 22:21.04 | CodeNinja | I tried specifying i686 and 686 for the arch and it started throwing that error above |
| 22:21.57 | macrobat | DeSian_: libpurple0, i mean |
| 22:22.14 | objorn | http://dpaste.com/93214/ shouldn't apt do this for me? here's the contents of the git cloned repo's dir: http://dpaste.com/93215/ |
| 22:22.33 | silidan | jazotic: i will try to boot a live cd with acpi=off |
| 22:22.50 | DeSian_ | macrobat, is a same drAMA |
| 22:22.57 | CodeNinja | silidan: thats actuall noapic nolapic |
| 22:23.06 | silidan | ok |
| 22:23.23 | CodeNinja | acpi=off will fix that bug, but it removes all of your laptop functionalities like cpu scaling, media keys, fn keys, etc |
| 22:23.26 | objorn | my question is that it that debian readme says that it will install the binary packages but i don't see any binary packages and i don't if i should do this manually if apt is supposed to do this for me |
| 22:23.42 | DeSian_ | macrobat, http://paste.debian.net/46461/ |
| 22:23.52 | objorn | the whole point of apt is to keep up with such software so i don't have to, at least for me it is |
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| 22:36.48 | CodeNinja | I think I may be running myself in circles with live-helper... :( |
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| 22:37.50 | silidan | jazotic: ok, i booted a livecd with acpi=off noacpi nolacpi or so, but i still had the same choppy sound |
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| 22:38.15 | jazotic | silidan, the error went away? |
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| 22:38.33 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 22:38.34 | silidan | you mean the bios bug thing? yes, |
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| 22:38.56 | silidan | but except sound my system runs fine even with the error... |
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| 22:39.11 | silidan | but sound is also without the error still choppy |
| 22:39.13 | samferry_ | hey guys. |
| 22:39.14 | jazotic | silidan, ok, check lsmod for your soundmodule and do an midinfo on it. maybe it shows some useful options. |
| 22:39.14 | CodeNinja | silidan: remove the acpi=off |
| 22:39.23 | dff | ive asked this before but i forget the answer, how do you list users on a debian system |
| 22:39.25 | samferry_ | any ideas why my apt-get commands halt at Processing triggers for man-db? |
| 22:39.28 | CodeNinja | should just be noapic nolapic |
| 22:39.29 | jazotic | aehm, modinfo |
| 22:39.30 | dff | you need to print som file |
| 22:39.30 | samferry_ | example: http://uploader.ws/upload/200909/486e56db.png |
| 22:39.34 | dff | some |
| 22:39.44 | silidan | ok reboot, ill be back |
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| 22:40.08 | abrotman | dff: getent |
| 22:41.02 | objorn | never heard back from anyone, shouldn't apt be handling the source install and not me? |
| 22:41.39 | themill | objorn: there are no packages for this software for your version of debian. You need to make them your self from the sources in sid, hence a "simple sid backport". |
| 22:41.42 | abrotman | objorn: the bot told you awhile ago about how to backport software from other versions of debian |
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| 22:44.23 | dff | abrotman: how does getent differ from cat, they both print the same stuff |
| 22:44.23 | samferry_ | so anyone have an idea why apt-get would hang like that? |
| 22:44.44 | abrotman | dff: getent works if your users aren't in /etc/passwd |
| 22:44.50 | objorn | thank you for telling me what ssb stands for themill |
| 22:45.06 | dff | abrotman: where could they be otherwise |
| 22:45.15 | benjamindees | samferry_: are you upgrading to a different arch? |
| 22:45.16 | abrotman | ldap for example |
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| 22:45.43 | samferry_ | benjamindees: it hangs on anything. this instance was a simple `apt-get upgrade` |
| 22:45.54 | silidan | didnt fiy the sound with noapic and nolapic |
| 22:45.59 | silidan | *fix |
| 22:46.20 | silidan | jazotic: ok so what did you suggest next? |
| 22:46.22 | CodeNinja | silidan: hm, whish I could help more |
| 22:46.23 | benjamindees | samferry_: it has done this before on other packages? |
| 22:46.31 | samferry_ | indeed it has. |
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| 22:46.36 | samferry_ | but for some reason, it only started today |
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| 22:47.42 | jazotic | silidan, does modinfo on the soundmodule shows something? |
| 22:48.06 | silidan | i dont have modinfo |
| 22:48.09 | silidan | which package? |
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| 22:48.17 | jazotic | superuser? |
| 22:48.25 | jazotic | should be there. |
| 22:48.27 | benjamindees | samferry_: I've never done this but perhaps your man-db is corrupt and should be rebuilt? |
| 22:48.30 | silidan | oye |
| 22:50.12 | silidan | http://pastebin.com/d3f3a401d |
| 22:50.26 | silidan | jazotic: http://pastebin.com/d3f3a401d thats the output |
| 22:50.34 | CodeNinja | round and round I go.... lh_build.... (error) cp... lh_build... (error) cp.... |
| 22:51.01 | benjamindees | samferry_: try 'man -u' perhaps |
| 22:51.08 | jazotic | silidan, unload the module and reload with ac97_quirk=1 |
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| 22:51.50 | jazotic | silidan, also try the other ones like buggy_blabla set to 1 |
| 22:53.03 | silidan | ok i just tryed with setting ac97_clock to 44100, now after starting to play asound file a message popt into my terminal Message from syslogd@rafmob1 at Sep 14 00:51:49 ... |
| 22:53.04 | silidan | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.08 | jazotic | silidan, that might give timingtroubles if you alter the clock. |
| 22:56.12 | objorn | this is the result of trying to follow what dpkg bot told me: http://dpaste.com/93220/ |
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| 22:56.52 | abrotman | objorn: where is your /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
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| 22:57.28 | objorn | abrotman: http://dpaste.com/93222/ |
| 22:57.37 | objorn | maybe i should just switch to testing or unstable |
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| 22:58.11 | abrotman | do not switch to unstable |
| 22:58.25 | jazotic | objorn, learn /etc/apt/preferences, apt-get -t ... |
| 22:58.34 | abrotman | objorn: your deb-src should be pointing at the version of debian you want to get the source from |
| 22:58.36 | ajavid | hey |
| 22:58.41 | abrotman | jazotic: stop messing up his system |
| 22:58.46 | ajavid | PING 0.0.0.0 (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 22:58.49 | silidan | jazotic: ok tried all i could find, nothing helped, some turned of sound |
| 22:58.50 | ajavid | does this look ok? |
| 22:58.56 | ajavid | why is 0 mapped to 127 |
| 22:59.06 | ajavid | isn't 0 supposed to be not available |
| 22:59.08 | silidan | except id and index |
| 22:59.16 | abrotman | ajavid: control your enter key |
| 22:59.29 | ajavid | its a default lenny install |
| 22:59.39 | ajavid | checks hosts file |
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| 23:00.27 | ajavid | 0.0.0.0 localhost |
| 23:00.50 | ajavid | found it. What a tard.. whoever put that into their MVPS hosts based adblocking file (that popular site) |
| 23:00.53 | jazotic | silidan, hmm, crappy gericom. you said you tried several kernel/distributions? looks like the driver is borken with that chipset. |
| 23:01.40 | ajavid | its like line #5000~ish or something, way in the middle, around l, (I sorted) I think by default its at top... hehehe I'm the tard ;) |
| 23:01.44 | silidan | jazotic: i fear so, the last time sound was working on linux on this machine was back when suse 8 or 9 was out...(i think more 8 than 9) |
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| 23:02.30 | silidan | jazotic: maybe i did a bios update since then, but im not sure... and sound ever since i have this laptop works well on windows... |
| 23:03.26 | digilink | I run two Debian Lenny boxes on my local LAN. One of them has Exim reconfigured to act as a mail server (outbound only) for system alerts etc. I have Exim set to accept SMTP requests from localhost (127.0.0.1) and my local subnet only. I want to setup my other box to also send mail through this instance, but I'm not sure how to accomplish that without also configuring Exim on the other box? Will I need to do that or is there somewh |
| 23:03.26 | digilink | can define a default outgoing SMTP server? |
| 23:03.49 | jazotic | silidan, btw. are you still with acpi=off? these notebooks often have troubles there (bios-acpi). however you'll be without userspace powermanagement+. |
| 23:03.50 | abrotman | smarthost |
| 23:04.27 | silidan | jazotic: no i did this booting with acpi=off with a ubuntu 9.04 live cd.. |
| 23:04.28 | themill | objorn: you didn't follow dpkg's instructions about making a deb-src line for sid |
| 23:04.42 | digilink | abrotman, I have that set on the SMTP server I want to use, but I can't figure out if I need to run Exim on this box to send mail? |
| 23:04.53 | silidan | but i can try this modprobe stuff on it |
| 23:05.05 | benjamindees | digilink, there used to be an install option to do that easily; probably you can dpkg-reconfigure a certain package to enable it |
| 23:05.15 | abrotman | digilink: you don't have to .. you can use something that only can send to another host |
| 23:05.35 | jazotic | silidan, check that out. eventually get connected with some of the alsa or even kernel guys. alsa.org lkml. |
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| 23:06.41 | jazotic | silidan, also see acpi related websites. IIRC there where acpi-versions to replace the often crappy bios version. |
| 23:06.45 | digilink | ok well here's the dillema, I am setting up some scripts in cron and using the MAILTO= option in /etc/crontab, I think by default that looks for an SMTP server on the localhost? |
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| 23:07.59 | abrotman | digilink: no,it would use the mail command to send to root |
| 23:08.36 | digilink | even if I specified an actual email address? for example MAILTO=someemail@gmail.com |
| 23:08.54 | abrotman | !ssmtp |
| 23:08.55 | dpkg | sSMTP is an extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a mailhub. http://wiki.debian.org/sSMTP . See also <nullmailer>. |
| 23:09.11 | digilink | ooh interesting |
| 23:09.21 | digilink | ok tnx! Ill take a look :) |
| 23:10.21 | digilink | wow now that I look at it I should dump Exim alltogether! This is perfect! tnx again |
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| 23:12.30 | Bird|ghosted | well, Squeeze just got bumped to mesa 7.5, which broke one of the games I play :( |
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| 23:12.53 | Bird|ghosted | and 7.6 is newer than the version Sid has |
| 23:13.13 | abrotman | impressive |
| 23:13.30 | Bird|ghosted | what should I do, downgrade to 7.0.3? or compile 7.6 from upstream? |
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| 23:13.49 | valdyn | judd: versions libgl1-mesa-dev |
| 23:13.51 | judd | valdyn: libgl1-mesa-dev -- etch: 6.5.1-0.6 sid: 7.0.3-6 lenny: 7.0.3-7 sid: 7.0.3-7 experimental: 7.3-1 sid: 7.5.1-1 squeeze: 7.5.1-1 |
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| 23:14.04 | abrotman | bot might not be updated yet |
| 23:14.12 | Bird|ghosted | actually, that looks about correct |
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| 23:14.24 | Bird|ghosted | according to pdo |
| 23:14.28 | valdyn | Bird|ghosted: why would mesa 7.6 fix it? |
| 23:14.53 | Bird|ghosted | valdyn, it's a bug in Mesa that causes issues with things rendering as all-black under certain conditions |
| 23:15.04 | Bird|ghosted | it's been reported fixed with mesa 7.6 + matching intel drivers |
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| 23:15.21 | valdyn | Bird|ghosted: downgrading is probably easier |
| 23:15.26 | Bird|ghosted | (actually, it's the fault of the intel drivers, but Mesa and the drivers that use it don't like mismatched versions anyhoo) |
| 23:15.41 | Bird|ghosted | yeah...I figured dropping back to 7.0.3 would be the easiest route |
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| 23:16.10 | DelphiWorld | hello all, |
| 23:16.23 | DelphiWorld | fortunatly, i'm hapy to tel you that i solved my accessibility problem |
| 23:16.34 | DelphiWorld | using telnet unstid of ssh |
| 23:16.34 | Bird|ghosted | valdyn, if you could walk me through how to properly downgrade a set of interdependent packages (I use aptitude) that'd be great. :) |
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| 23:16.58 | valdyn | Bird|ghosted: aptitude install packagename=version |
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| 23:17.14 | Bird|ghosted | let's see if it figures it out that way :) |
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| 23:17.48 | DelphiWorld | so bye and have a very good luk and life with debian! |
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| 23:19.17 | murdoc-is-god | I am copying 3TB+ of data from one server to another over a gigabit crossover cable. I want to use scp, or something that uses SSH. I want it to show the speed of the transfer and ideally, an ETA as well. |
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| 23:19.39 | valdyn | murdoc-is-god: scp does show the speed of the transfer |
| 23:19.58 | murdoc-is-god | valdyn: I added -q |
| 23:20.15 | markybob | damn scp. rsync your worries away |
| 23:20.18 | murdoc-is-god | Because outputting a new line for every single file killed performance. |
| 23:20.26 | valdyn | murdoc-is-god: nonsense |
| 23:20.46 | Bird|ghosted | valdyn, I get "unable to find a version "7.0.3-7" for the package "libgl1-mesa-glx"" |
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| 23:21.10 | valdyn | murdoc-is-god: printing a single line should easily be faster than disk access times are |
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| 23:21.23 | valdyn | murdoc-is-god: ( unless you use the vesa driver ) |
| 23:21.24 | Bird|ghosted | what would be the easiest way to get around that? just add lenny temporarily to sources.list? |
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| 23:24.30 | valdyn | Bird|ghosted: yea |
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| 23:26.01 | sshc | I'm trying to fix dpkg since it broke after an update, and aptitude update is telling me "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." |
| 23:26.10 | sshc | but here's the output |
| 23:26.24 | valdyn | sshc: and you are using sid? |
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| 23:27.17 | ajavid | I'm directing some ad hosts to 0.0.0.0 instead of 127.0.0.1, but it keeps resolving to localhost, and I have a LAMP dev server on it, so in all the iframes and banners that use the ad servers, I see my local lamp dev site. I have nothing in my hosts file that maps 'localhost' or '127.0.0.1' to 0.0.0.0, I've made sure of that |
| 23:27.23 | sshc | valdyn: I am using Lenny |
| 23:27.29 | sshc | valdyn: http://pastebin.com/f5f4c88e0 |
| 23:27.33 | ajavid | why does 0.0.0.0 keep resolving to 127.0.0.1 |
| 23:27.47 | ajavid | where can I check to see the problem? |
| 23:27.58 | valdyn | sshc: ls /etc/modprobe.d/arch-aliases |
| 23:27.59 | zinx | ajavid: 0.0.0.0 is a special address |
| 23:28.10 | ajavid | I'm aware |
| 23:28.20 | ajavid | that is why I'm trying to use it |
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| 23:28.24 | zinx | ajavid: it does not "resolve" to localhost, but it will connect to localhost if you try to connect to it |
| 23:28.37 | DelphiWorld | please why telnetd don't accept root login? |
| 23:28.39 | zinx | ajavid: you clearly don't want to be using it, as you are not expecting the effects it has |
| 23:28.41 | ajavid | zinx, I see |
| 23:28.50 | DelphiWorld | i use login root but is saying login incorect |
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| 23:28.53 | zinx | ajavid: choose an IP in a range set aside for that kind of use |
| 23:28.59 | valdyn | judd: versions initramfs-tools |
| 23:29.01 | judd | valdyn: initramfs-tools -- etch: 0.85i sid: 0.92l etch-backports: 0.92m~bpo40+1 lenny: 0.92o sid: 0.92o lenny-backports: 0.93.2~bpo50+2 sid: 0.93.4 squeeze: 0.93.4 |
| 23:29.01 | ajavid | zinx, well I would like to .. I see |
| 23:29.07 | NoCode | Is there a metapackage out there so I can install restricted formats? |
| 23:29.12 | sshc_ | valdyn, sorry, irssi decided to lose its connection to freenode |
| 23:29.19 | sshc_ | valdyn: http://pastebin.com/f5f4c88e0 |
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| 23:29.24 | valdyn | sshc_: youre not using lenny |
| 23:29.29 | sshc_ | valdyn: I'm running testing / squeeze |
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| 23:30.39 | valdyn | sshc: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2009-01-12 21:01 /etc/modprobe.d/arch-aliases -> arch/i386 |
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| 23:32.17 | sshc | valdyn: I have the same symlink |
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| 23:32.32 | sshc | valdyn: but arch/i386 doesn't exist |
| 23:33.29 | sshc | valdyn: this seems to be a pretty common problem, according to http://www.google.com/search?q=cpio%3A+.%2Fetc%2Fmodprobe.d%2Farch-aliases%3A+Cannot+stat%3A+No+such+file+or+directory |
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| 23:35.09 | sshc | valdyn: on one of the bug reports, one person said removing the symlink solves the problem |
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| 23:35.30 | valdyn | sshc: not having the symlink *is* the problem |
| 23:36.05 | valdyn | sshc: ( or having a broken symlink probably ) |
| 23:36.13 | sshc | valdyn: yes, broken symlink |
| 23:36.41 | valdyn | sshc: just remove it, it only contains fixes for parport and a.out binaries, you likely dont use either |
| 23:36.54 | sshc | valdyn: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/b05bfda5ca1b0fa3 |
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| 23:41.19 | PachecoJ | I'm running Etch and have flashplayer-nonfree 10.0 installed... the flash player works fine in Iceweasel, except everytime I try to watch a youtube video I get "An error occurred, please try again later" which shows in the player, any ideas? |
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| 23:42.41 | Kovensky | ... |
| 23:42.48 | Kovensky | the debian usplash theme is ugly :( |
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| 23:43.19 | solid_liq | I've had issues with flash in iceweasel in Lenny, but it seems to work just fine (for the most part) in Opera |
| 23:44.02 | solid_liq | PachecoJ, iotw, you might want to try Opera to see if that fixes the problem. Opera 10 is actually nice (first version I can stand using) |
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| 23:48.38 | PachecoJ | I'm sure I can fix the issue without having to switch browsers |
| 23:48.46 | PachecoJ | seems kind of like trying to avoid the problem |
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