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| 00:00.48 | M06w | I can't imagine the concept that notify-osd achieves is very complex to do for a dedicated purpose, instead of a generic interface. It'd probably be worth a look at the source code responsible for displaying the notification |
| 00:03.42 | Andorin | I'm not sure if I'm capable of making any meaningful change in that regard. |
| 00:05.07 | M06w | oh psha, I've read text books in denser code than most programming, give it an honest shot and you'll almost certainly be fully capable of it |
| 00:05.25 | jpinx-eeepc | Andorin: yea - i get smartss comments about "write your own code - it's easy" Hrmph |
| 00:05.53 | M06w | write, maybe not so much, but all you need to do is isolate the bit you need from somebody else's code |
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| 00:07.54 | M06w | writing code can be difficult, that's why programmers get paid obscene amounts for dumb things like websites, sometimes even static websites; but reading code should always be pretty easy, and if it's not, the programmer is not very good |
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| 00:09.06 | iceroot | is it safe to use volatile on lenny? is it just for something like virus-scanner and spam-checker? or is it smething like sid, so all my packages are updated? (apt-get ist-upgrade -s only shows clamav on volatile, but is this always so or can there other upgrades like kernel and so on)? |
| 00:09.24 | catsup | well M06w that's not really fair to say |
| 00:09.27 | vecto | i don't think so. |
| 00:09.46 | jpinx-eeepc | iceroot: volatile on lenny is what I use - no problems so far..... |
| 00:09.55 | M06w | catsup, I say lots of unfair things, and generalize a lot too |
| 00:10.18 | catsup | M06w: a program can encode any degree of complexity of logic; certain algorithms require advanced knowledge of the frontiers of mathematical knowledge, some code cannot be understood withuot and understanding of very specific theories |
| 00:10.35 | iceroot | jpinx-eeepc: but its something like sid? or just an up to date repo for virus-scanners? |
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| 00:11.10 | jpinx-eeepc | M06w: even finding the code to read is a mission - I can;t find this one |
| 00:11.12 | adb | !volatile |
| 00:11.12 | dpkg | i heard volatile is a project that aims at keeping the <stable> and <oldstable> distributions up to date for fast moving packages such as virus scanners, spam scanners and firmware downloaders. http://www.debian.org/volatile/ An example line for your lenny sources.list is: deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free See also <volatile mirrors>. |
| 00:11.15 | catsup | M06w: besides, reading code isn't always such a good way to understand a program, it's better to have an udnerstanding of the overall design first |
| 00:11.52 | M06w | oh true, completely |
| 00:12.04 | jpinx-eeepc | M06w: I build dynamic websites in php, etc - but i have no clue about coding |
| 00:12.06 | iceroot | adb: sounds safe |
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| 00:12.57 | M06w | jpinx, the only real difference between a really complex website and a program is the medium |
| 00:13.08 | jpinx-eeepc | M06w: can you tell me where to find the code for this in heree -> https://code.launchpad.net/notify-osd |
| 00:13.13 | M06w | though you will need to learn the basic so f the language |
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| 00:14.56 | M06w | jpinx, I'm a bit sickly at the momnt, but I believe this is abouts where you need to be looking http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~juliank/notify-osd/debian/files |
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| 00:18.10 | jpinx-eeepc | M06w: this? -> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~juliank/notify-osd/debian/annotate/head%3A/debian/source_notify-osd.py |
| 00:18.14 | M06w | like catsup said though, if you want to find the code in question, you'll want to figure out what the code actually does to do what you want, so you can look for code related to that |
| 00:19.10 | M06w | honestly, with my allergies as they are, I can't even read any pages that aren't primarily black |
| 00:19.44 | jpinx-eeepc | even to my unskilled eye it looks like a pos |
| 00:20.03 | M06w | pos? PoS? |
| 00:20.27 | vecto | Ubuntu is better than Debian. |
| 00:20.31 | jpinx-eeepc | it's pnly calling standard events, not custom ones, and it's just using the gnome popup notifier |
| 00:20.38 | Sauvin | piece of 'stuff' |
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| 00:20.47 | vecto | And Linus Torvalds is the best. |
| 00:20.51 | vecto | Do you agree? |
| 00:21.14 | M06w | I dislike both ubuntu and debian, but I find debian to be minorly more functional |
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| 00:21.23 | azeem | vecto: do you have a Debian question? |
| 00:21.43 | vecto | yes. Why using debian istead of ubuntu? |
| 00:22.19 | jpinx-eeepc | vecto: it's more stable and better supported |
| 00:22.20 | azeem | sorry, this is a support channel not a discussion forum for various distributions |
| 00:22.39 | zinx | !tell vecto about why debian |
| 00:22.52 | gasull | Hi. Rhythmbox can't play a song all the way through. The song is always paused at some point or another, although the program isn't frozen. I'm using Rhythmbox 0.11.6 in Lenny. Any suggestions? Should I install Rhythmbox from unstable? |
| 00:23.24 | jpinx-eeepc | gasull: what filesystem is the "song" on? |
| 00:23.51 | gasull | jpinx-eeepc: ext3 |
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| 00:24.17 | vecto | ext4 is better |
| 00:24.19 | jpinx-eeepc | gasull: 'cos I've had issues with .mp3's on NTFS being cut before the end |
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| 00:24.50 | jpinx-eeepc | gasull: did you try other player? |
| 00:25.04 | gasull | jpinx-eeepc: thanks. I have a FAT-32 partition but there's no music there |
| 00:25.09 | M06w | vecto, generically speaking you can't argue about operating systems at all, there are far too many factors and rarely is any better at everything than anything else |
| 00:25.12 | jpinx-eeepc | gasull: to prove the file is intact |
| 00:25.39 | jpinx-eeepc | gasull: try vlc - it's eassy to install and "just works" |
| 00:25.42 | M06w | unless you specify a topic, you can't compare |
| 00:26.40 | gasull | jpinx-eeepc: no. But it doesn't stop always on the same song or on the same part of the song. It just stops from time to time. Yesterday it kept stopping on the same song and I was playing it again and again until it went through |
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| 00:27.10 | gasull | jpinx-eeepc: Does vlc has playlists? |
| 00:27.19 | jpinx-eeepc | gasull: of course |
| 00:27.22 | M06w | it had better |
| 00:27.45 | gasull | jpinx-eeepc: ok. I'll try it out |
| 00:28.17 | jpinx-eeepc | gasull: is - imho -better than rhythmbvox or mplayer[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~ |
| 00:28.17 | jpinx-eeepc | ooops - sorry |
| 00:28.18 | vecto | i prefer mplayer |
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| 00:28.50 | jpinx-eeepc | the only advantage of maplyer is that it does not need X |
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| 00:29.07 | M06w | X? |
| 00:29.38 | gasull | jpinx-eeepc, vecto: Rhythmbox has last.fm and internet radio. Does VLC has that too? |
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| 00:30.12 | jpinx-eeepc | gasull: not sure about last.fm, but you cna get that with a browser, and it does radio stations |
| 00:30.25 | vecto | internetradio surely |
| 00:30.31 | vecto | and mplayer too. |
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| 00:30.48 | jpinx-eeepc | gasull: I have a playlist of internet radio stations |
| 00:31.22 | vecto | just type in "mplayer http://dsl.tb-stream.net" german Techno Internetradio Station. |
| 00:31.47 | azeem_ | vecto: this is not a chat room |
| 00:31.53 | vecto | sry |
| 00:32.05 | azeem_ | if you do not have a Debian question, or are able to give meaningful support; please either keep quiet or leav |
| 00:32.08 | azeem_ | e |
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| 00:32.30 | M06w | isn't VLC generally considered one of the five most popular media players in existence currently? |
| 00:32.56 | kripz | anyone know how to split videos? I need the contents between x and y in another file. i tried -ss and -endpos but it doesnt workj |
| 00:33.00 | jpinx-eeepc | M06w: you're offtopic |
| 00:33.37 | gasull | thank you guys. I'm trying the song in Totem and I just installed VLC. I'll see how it works |
| 00:33.51 | M06w | jpinx, my point being, it must support such common things as streaming media, and last.fm would be dumb to not support it |
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| 00:34.23 | jpinx-eeepc | M06w: your point is offtopic ;) |
| 00:34.37 | M06w | your face is offtopic |
| 00:35.35 | gasull | Oops! The song paused in Totem too right now |
| 00:35.56 | jpinx-eeepc | gasull: you might have a corrupted files then |
| 00:35.57 | gasull | Can it be a problem with the sound drivers? |
| 00:36.20 | M06w | gasull, I for one have never heard of ether of your first choice players, and would only trust the results of vlc |
| 00:36.22 | jpinx-eeepc | !alsa |
| 00:36.22 | dpkg | ALSA is the Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, a project providing device drivers for sound cards. To install, ask me about <alsa install>. See also <alsa-checklist>, <alsa firmware>, <alsa versions>, <alsaconf>, <asoundconf>. http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA http://www.alsa-project.org/ #alsa on irc.freenode.net. |
| 00:36.52 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell gasull about alsa-checklist |
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| 00:41.01 | gasull | jpinx-eeepc: I have no audio group |
| 00:41.25 | jpinx-eeepc | gasull: make one? |
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| 00:57.17 | dbbolton | how can i find out which package provides the dch binary? |
| 00:57.40 | petemc | apt-file |
| 00:57.48 | petemc | or the bot, dpkg |
| 00:58.07 | hexoroid | i try to put .htaccess into / |
| 00:58.08 | dbbolton | i don't have apt-file either |
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| 00:58.20 | hexoroid | and it doesnt work but if i put it in /var/www/html/vhost it works |
| 00:58.22 | petemc | !installit |
| 00:58.22 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
| 00:58.28 | hexoroid | do i need to edit something in httpd.conf ? |
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| 00:58.50 | dbbolton | i don't know which package i need to install. that was the question. |
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| 00:59.53 | jpinx-eeepc | dbbolton: apt-file should tell you |
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| 01:00.14 | dbbolton | ok, i'll give it a go then |
| 01:00.56 | MadMuppet | I have added a second cd /dvd drive to my comp .. how do I find out the name of the second device? |
| 01:01.06 | petemc | dmesg |
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| 01:01.33 | MadMuppet | petemc: will that give me both cd /dvds? |
| 01:01.49 | petemc | if its not overwritten |
| 01:01.58 | petemc | if it is, use hwinfo |
| 01:02.16 | petemc | dmesg|grep sd |
| 01:02.58 | MadMuppet | dmesg | grep sd gave me no result .. |
| 01:04.07 | petemc | not a great sign |
| 01:04.38 | MadMuppet | one of the drives is ide and the other is serial ata |
| 01:04.54 | hexoroid | i guess nobody knows much about apache |
| 01:05.10 | LtL | hexoroid: .htaccess must be in docroot or subdir, hence /var/www/etc works |
| 01:05.48 | jorik | hexoroid: ppl in #httpd do |
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| 01:06.54 | petemc | MadMuppet: hwinfo |
| 01:07.10 | petemc | hwinfo --ide , etc |
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| 01:07.46 | MadMuppet | installing the command ..:p |
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| 01:09.53 | hexoroid | LtL |
| 01:09.57 | hexoroid | i have put it before in / |
| 01:11.23 | MadMuppet | petemc: it gives me the hardrive and one of the cd /dvds |
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| 01:12.38 | petemc | MadMuppet: and you're not happy with that? |
| 01:12.55 | LtL | hexoroid: then somehow you configured httpd.conf to use it. I've never used it that way. ask #apache for real. |
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| 01:15.17 | phidah | When I try to apt-get install something it says E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. |
| 01:15.32 | MadMuppet | petemc:it works fine .. Im always looking for something a little better ..:p |
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| 01:15.58 | petemc | what would make that something better? |
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| 01:16.55 | MadMuppet | having the ability to copy a cd without having to save it to disk first |
| 01:16.56 | phidah | WHen I do that it says http://paste.viaweb.biz/p/450 ... it seems that /boot is full...? |
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| 01:17.23 | jpinx-eeepc | phidah: try aptitude clean |
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| 01:18.14 | phidah | W: Could not lock the cache file; this usually means that dpkg or another apt tool is already installing packages. Opening in read-only mode; any changes you make to the states of packages will NOT be preserved! |
| 01:18.25 | phidah | and then the same error |
| 01:18.33 | phidah | that dpkg was interrupted |
| 01:20.11 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 01:20.27 | jetscreamer | you need to do dpkg --configure -a iirc phidah |
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| 01:20.41 | phidah | that's the one that fails :( |
| 01:20.44 | jetscreamer | not the iirc phidah just the preceding |
| 01:20.45 | jetscreamer | ah |
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| 01:21.56 | phidah | This is the result of the first fail: http://paste.viaweb.biz/p/451 (after running apt-get upgrade) |
| 01:21.58 | jetscreamer | just make some space, or mount /boot somewhere else... cp the contents to somewhere else first though, then remount it |
| 01:22.04 | jetscreamer | !remount |
| 01:22.16 | jetscreamer | i forget the exact syntax |
| 01:22.26 | jetscreamer | you can umount then mount though |
| 01:23.20 | phidah | really dont know whats safe to remove within /boot |
| 01:23.27 | phidah | seems there's a lot of duplicated stuff |
| 01:23.28 | jetscreamer | not much |
| 01:24.02 | phidah | http://paste.viaweb.biz/p/452 |
| 01:24.50 | jetscreamer | what you should 'probably' do is cp the contents elsewhere, under / ... like say mkdir /boot2 or something, then umount /boot and then mount the new one .. amend fstab to keep the change on reboots |
| 01:25.13 | jetscreamer | mkdir, cp /boot/* /boot2/ then remount rather |
| 01:25.21 | jetscreamer | other ppl may have better suggestions |
| 01:26.25 | phidah | hmm that seems a bit advanced to my level ;) I guess there is no way I can make /boot larger? |
| 01:27.04 | TrueDD | Gnight to all |
| 01:27.15 | jetscreamer | if it's another partition, that would 'probably' be more complicated.... unless you know you have unallocated space on the hd that doesn't have any partitions defined... |
| 01:27.28 | jetscreamer | what i told you is really very easy, i am not the best explainer |
| 01:27.44 | jpinx-eeepc | phidah: man resize2fs |
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| 01:28.03 | jetscreamer | lol |
| 01:28.15 | jetscreamer | actually |
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| 01:29.19 | jetscreamer | you can probably cp -R /boot/* /boot2/ then just umount /boot , then you will see there really is a /boot that is empty on your main partition, then cp the contents there, then just comment out the boot mount line in fstab |
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| 01:30.01 | jetscreamer | but, jpinx-eeepc gave you yet another way to do it |
| 01:31.39 | jetscreamer | this is of course assuming you have /boot on it's own partition ... if you went for the all in one / ... your hd is full |
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| 01:31.55 | jetscreamer | s/hd/root\ partition/ |
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| 01:33.02 | cirzgamanti | what's the easiest way to see real time net traffic bandwidth? |
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| 01:33.36 | cirzgamanti | there's probably some ubiquitous cl program for this that i forgot the name of |
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| 01:37.17 | liable | ntop is prolly what you want, cant think of a cli one |
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| 01:40.38 | deadbeef | hello guys excuseme for the lame question but, when i run urban terror or tremulous (games), after i quit the game my screen is screwed up; how do i fix it? using xrandr maybe? |
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| 01:41.37 | LtL | deadbeef: restart X ? |
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| 01:42.26 | deadbeef | LtL: i think it's the only way maybe |
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| 01:43.17 | LtL | deadbeef: ctrl-alt-backspace ought work |
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| 01:44.43 | deadbeef | LtL: thanks, didn't know of it :) i usually just spawn an xterm and do things from there |
| 01:45.08 | LtL | deadbeef: you're welcome! |
| 01:45.14 | jetscreamer | ++urban terror |
| 01:45.18 | jetscreamer | oops |
| 01:45.20 | jetscreamer | !++urban terror |
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| 02:05.41 | iluminator101 | how can i check if my harddrive about to go |
| 02:05.44 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 02:05.44 | dpkg | <meshuggah> enouf; i dont zqnt q french lqyout)azerty i live in cqnqdq |
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| 02:06.46 | petemc | iluminator101: syslog/messages, if your hard disk supports it, install smartmontools |
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| 02:09.18 | iluminator101 | petemc:syslog/messages??? |
| 02:10.13 | petemc | aye, in /var/log/ |
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| 02:28.51 | rumpsy | hi everybody :-DD |
| 02:29.00 | rumpsy | Good morning :-DD |
| 02:29.13 | rumpsy | looking for help in this channel |
| 02:29.58 | rumpsy | i installed a application, how can i check, where it installed |
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| 02:30.18 | rumpsy | i installed a application, how can i check, where it installed, i mean installation directory |
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| 02:31.38 | jill | my pure-ftpd doesnt work, i just installed it, what is my problem? deamon is running |
| 02:31.43 | blast_hardcheese | 'evening everyone |
| 02:31.52 | jill | blast_hardcheese: hi |
| 02:31.58 | Conrad-T-Pino | which command? |
| 02:32.11 | LtL | rumpsy: try 'locate program' no quotes. or whereis program |
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| 02:32.26 | cwheeler | what's a good app for recording movies off the screen? |
| 02:32.34 | blast_hardcheese | aptitude question: ?and is irritating in the fact that it only supports two arguments, ?and(?and(?and(... gets irritating, |
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| 02:32.45 | blast_hardcheese | is there a better way to do this? |
| 02:33.16 | rumpsy | okay... i try now.... |
| 02:33.38 | LtL | rumpsy: in a terminal of course program=command |
| 02:33.54 | cwheeler | I want to record a movie from a window them make an animated gif from it |
| 02:35.38 | jill | guys how can i check out users in terminal? |
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| 02:35.44 | jill | and groups |
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| 02:36.04 | jetscreamer | cwheeler: mencoder probably |
| 02:36.10 | jetscreamer | cwheeler: #mplayer |
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| 02:36.42 | LtL | jill: type 'users' and/or 'groups' |
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| 02:37.23 | jill | LtL: thanks |
| 02:37.26 | LtL | jill: who -a ..not sure exactly what you want. |
| 02:37.33 | LtL | jill: welcome |
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| 02:37.46 | jill | i want to know is there ftp:ftp user |
| 02:39.03 | LtL | jill: hrm cat /etc/passwd |grep ftp ..possibly. |
| 02:39.45 | LtL | jill: i've never setup a ftp server |
| 02:39.59 | jill | LtL: okay, i dont have any user ftp called, can i create it right now? |
| 02:40.14 | cwheeler | thanks jetscreamer |
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| 02:40.39 | LtL | jill: Better to ask a pure-ftpd user |
| 02:40.54 | jill | LtL: anyways thanks |
| 02:42.05 | blast_hardcheese | jill: the user should be created for you if you need one |
| 02:42.48 | Cryptic_Donkey | nomatter what i do i can not get clear sound on youtubevideos |
| 02:43.09 | jill | blast_hardcheese: i just install pure-ftpd for learning how ftp works.. but it doesnt works... and i think because i dont have ftp user |
| 02:43.12 | Cryptic_Donkey | no matter what i do i can not get clear sound on youtubevideos |
| 02:43.41 | LtL | jill: try to ftp localhost in a term |
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| 02:44.18 | jpinx-eeepc | Cryptic_Donkey: did you try downloading them and running them locally |
| 02:44.31 | jill | LtL: it welcomes me, works! |
| 02:44.53 | LtL | jill: can you login tho'? |
| 02:45.18 | jill | it wants to know "name", LtL |
| 02:45.56 | LtL | jill: try jill, this should be explained in your docs and ftpd.conf somewhere |
| 02:46.04 | jill | i typed ftp and 421 service not avaible was shown me |
| 02:46.26 | jill | but Jill works |
| 02:46.52 | jill | i think i realy need to create ftp for anonymous |
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| 02:47.09 | LtL | jill: your .conf file needs work, perhaps users added also, anonymous vs. not etc. |
| 02:47.34 | jill | lets see |
| 02:48.01 | LtL | jill: the daemon is answering, just needs configuring |
| 02:48.17 | jill | LtL: there are many configs in /etc/pure-ftpd/conf/ |
| 02:48.24 | jill | which way? |
| 02:49.00 | LtL | jill: I couldn't say, suggest you find a tutorial on pure-ftp |
| 02:50.00 | Cryptic_Donkey | Why did they remove open sound system from debian? |
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| 02:50.25 | jill | Cryptic_Donkey: you always can install it |
| 02:51.16 | adb | !oss |
| 02:51.17 | dpkg | i heard oss is an acronym for Open Source Software that is ironically the acronym referring to 'Open Sound Systems', some very <non-free> and non-open-source software. It is also Online SAP Support. SAP is VERY non-free. (www.4front-tech.com for OSS) or an acronym coined by Vinod Valipollil in the <Halloween> document. the "standard" audio drivers in the 2.2-2.4 series of Linux kernels (see <ALSA> for 2.6 info). OldSchoolSound |
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| 02:54.37 | LtL | jill: this may be of use. http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/383 |
| 02:54.55 | jill | LtL: i already fix =) |
| 02:55.04 | jill | 's cool |
| 02:55.11 | LtL | jill: sweet! |
| 02:55.31 | LtL | jill: keep it secure, read those docs. |
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| 02:56.02 | jill | LtL: i just create ftp user by adduser command... and i set password, i think its low but security too |
| 02:57.21 | rumpsy | !ask |
| 02:57.21 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 02:57.57 | LtL | jill: i think you may need ftpgroup as a group also. |
| 02:58.43 | jill | LtL: can you help to test it? please log in as anonymous at ftp://95.58.178.134 and check works or not... |
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| 03:00.25 | LtL | jill: it works |
| 03:00.49 | LtL | jill: se me ? |
| 03:01.11 | jill | LtL: i dont know how to see =) |
| 03:01.17 | rumpsy | : debian ia awesome :-DD |
| 03:01.50 | LtL | jill: in a term 'who' or who -a or just w, or netstat -tunap |
| 03:02.29 | Cryptic_1onkey | is there i reporsitory from which i can retreive opera? |
| 03:02.29 | Sauvin | If I do an apt-get dist-upgrade, will such a process the OS *and* all installed packages? |
| 03:02.29 | Cryptic_1onkey | !opera |
| 03:02.29 | dpkg | Opera is a cross-platform web browser and Internet suite, which handles common tasks including visiting web sites and sending/receiving e-mail. Opera is Freeware (>=Version 8.5), but NOT Open-Source. It is not included in Debian and therefore not supported by #debian. To install, ask me about <opera apt> and see http://wiki.debian.org/Opera . http://www.opera.com/support/ #opera on irc.opera.com. |
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| 03:03.12 | jill | LtL: netstat -tunap gives so many information |
| 03:03.43 | LtL | jill: true |
| 03:03.52 | LtL | jill: who -a |
| 03:04.45 | jill | LtL: there are only jill jill jill |
| 03:08.03 | LtL | jill: the who -a is normal. |
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| 03:10.14 | nicko | I think I'm having kernel panics when the wireless is enable on Lenny |
| 03:11.56 | Cryptic_1onkey | is it safe to use a plugin meant for ubuntu on a debian system? |
| 03:12.39 | Cryptic_1onkey | nicko: What wireless chipset are you using? |
| 03:14.40 | nicko | Intel Wireless 4965 |
| 03:15.58 | adb | !4965 |
| 03:15.58 | dpkg | iwlwifi is the new driver for Intel 3945 and 4965 wireless chipsets for etchnhalf and lenny onwards. Add <non-free sources>, then "aptitude update && aptitude install firmware-iwlwifi". "modprobe iwl3945" or "modprobe iwl4965" depending on your device's chipset. See http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi (particularly if switching from ipw3945). See also <iwlagn> <wmaster0> <wireless tree> <iwlwifi etch>. #ipw2100 on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 03:18.51 | qtqt | Hey all, I'm trying to set up triple monitors on Lenny - I currently have two working fine on a dual-head ATI Radeon AGP card (VGA & DVI), and I want to add a PCI card with VGA - the one I have is S3 ViRGE. It doesn't look good so far - xrandr doesn't see the virge card, lshw lists it as "unclaimed". Do I need to upgrade to xrandr 1.3 for this? |
| 03:19.38 | petemc | lspci sees it? |
| 03:19.42 | qtqt | yeah |
| 03:19.59 | petemc | im not sure whay i asked, ive never done a 3 head setup |
| 03:20.20 | petemc | i have used s3 virge tho, it sucketh mightily |
| 03:20.36 | qtqt | apparently not many ppl on google have either :) |
| 03:20.38 | qtqt | yeah it was cheap |
| 03:21.32 | petemc | have you tried adding the relevant device sections to xorg.cong? |
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| 03:22.17 | wedge | I think that computer is ready for retirement |
| 03:22.27 | petemc | http://yerma.org/~pete/temp/xorg.conf , my config when i used s3virge |
| 03:22.33 | petemc | many moons ago |
| 03:23.04 | nicko | I have the firmware-iwlwifi package and my wireless works fine. But when connect to the wireless in my work I get a kernel panic |
| 03:23.26 | petemc | i would say it doesnt work fine then |
| 03:23.38 | petemc | </unuseful> |
| 03:23.39 | nicko | yeah... |
| 03:24.15 | dbuduru | I am running Debian as a guest OS on VirtualBox and I am trying to access my USB hard drive in debian, I can see the USB Drive in the File Browser but if I try to access it I get the message "Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume" |
| 03:24.51 | qtqt | yeah i used to have this working with a fancy xorg.conf a couple years ago but since 7.3 i thought that was deprecated. I know I couldn't get my old xorg.conf files to work anymore |
| 03:24.51 | nicko | I assuming that when the Caps Lock and Scroll Lock are flashing it means a kernel panic |
| 03:26.03 | qtqt | and "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" used to be helpful for that but now it just gives me a bare generic xorg.conf |
| 03:26.22 | petemc | qtqt: its not deprecated if your config is anyway non standard |
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| 03:29.04 | nicko | Is the only solution to a kernel panic update the linux kernel? |
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| 03:29.38 | petemc | or use another module |
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| 03:29.59 | petemc | or dont connect to the wireless in your work |
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| 03:30.18 | petemc | "it hurts when i do this" |
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| 03:33.21 | luckylucy | where's the my.ini file for mysql? |
| 03:34.00 | petemc | my.cnf is in /etc/mysql/ |
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| 03:34.39 | luckylucy | yeah, but i am trying to find something called my.ini, which i am not familiar with... |
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| 03:36.22 | linuxjones317 | how can i find out where in /dev my blackberry is connected to? |
| 03:37.05 | petemc | linuxjones317: when you plug it in you can look in syslog, it may say there |
| 03:37.09 | petemc | or messages |
| 03:37.59 | nicko | I've installed the Linux 2.6.30 image on lenny but I cannot boot with it |
| 03:38.11 | nicko | I've got it from lenny backports |
| 03:38.24 | ZitZ | how can I figure out what event# my respective input devices are? |
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| 03:40.02 | nicko | I've get an error about the screen server or something |
| 03:40.03 | linuxjones317 | petemc, it says sde, does that seem right or should it be one of the usbdev things? |
| 03:41.07 | petemc | linuxjones317: that would be right if it presents itself as a usb mass storage device |
| 03:41.34 | nicko | do I need to re-install the NVIDIA binary kernel modules for 2.6?? |
| 03:42.03 | linuxjones317 | it does, but im trying to find out where to point the phone manager program, and thats turning into quite the task |
| 03:42.37 | petemc | no idea, sorry |
| 03:44.42 | plugd | furries are weird |
| 03:45.03 | Andorin | K, guys, I'm having a ton of trouble with getting the latest version of Gnome Do. As far as I can tell, the Do in the repos doesn't support Docky so I need to upgrade it. |
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| 03:45.32 | Andorin | Everywhere I turn while doing so, I run into brick walls. Unsatisfiable dependences with both .deb packages and compiling from source. |
| 03:47.14 | jpinx-eeepc | Andorin: you must be trying to do something very non-standard |
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| 03:49.20 | Andorin | Not as far as I know... |
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| 03:50.18 | Andorin | jpinx-eeepc: As I've said, I just want to install Gnome Do's newest version. |
| 03:51.08 | petemc | once you supercede the packaged versions of something, you can consider that non standard |
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| 03:52.21 | Cryptic_Donkey | OSS won't compile at laa on a freshh insataLL OF LENNY |
| 03:52.56 | adb | !tell Cryptic_Donkey -about oss |
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| 03:54.14 | Cryptic_Donkey | OSS won't compile at laa on a freshh insataLL OF LENNY http://pastebin.ca/1611537 |
| 03:54.26 | linuxjones317 | are the /dev/usbdev... things the actual usb ports? or where would those be? |
| 03:54.52 | sigp239 | How do I automatically run xorg as root? |
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| 03:55.30 | [gnubie] | waves |
| 03:56.46 | jpinx-eeepc | Andorin: is it not in backports? |
| 03:56.54 | [gnubie] | what is your recommended usb 802.11n wlan product that works well as an ap/master with wpa support? |
| 03:57.01 | kingsley | sigp239: I do not know, but perhaps you could find an answer by searching Google's indices with a wise choice of keywords. |
| 03:57.09 | Andorin | Nope. |
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| 03:57.36 | jpinx-eeepc | then you can try making your own backport |
| 03:57.44 | Andorin | Tried. |
| 03:57.53 | jpinx-eeepc | but that is not always successful |
| 03:57.58 | Andorin | It didn't work. |
| 03:58.17 | jpinx-eeepc | why do you neeed the latest? |
| 03:58.27 | Andorin | To support docky. |
| 03:58.37 | jpinx-eeepc | docky? |
| 03:58.46 | Guerin | like clippy |
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| 03:59.13 | jpinx-eeepc | good grief - this sounds like #ubuntu |
| 03:59.28 | petemc | easy now |
| 03:59.33 | Cryptic_Donkey | OSS won't compile at laa on a freshh insataLL OF LENNY http://pastebin.ca/1611537 |
| 03:59.50 | Guerin | Cryptic_Donkey: perhaps it's because you failed to type the command properly |
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| 04:00.26 | [gnubie] | anyone? |
| 04:00.35 | jpinx-eeepc | !ask |
| 04:00.35 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 04:00.48 | petemc | Cryptic_Donkey: do you have linux-headers-$(uname -r) installed ? |
| 04:02.04 | [gnubie] | jpinx-eeepc: i already asked. let me ask again: what is your recommended usb 802.11n wlan product that works well as an ap/master with wpa support? |
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| 04:02.46 | jpinx-eeepc | [gnubie]: hardware? |
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| 04:03.13 | Guerin | [gnubie]: if people don't answer, it's not because they hate you. It's usually because they don't know. |
| 04:03.23 | [gnubie] | jpinx-eeepc: hardware that works either in stock debian kernel or from the vanilla kernel |
| 04:03.25 | rumpsy | !eggdrop |
| 04:03.25 | dpkg | Eggdrop!? I scoff at Eggdrop bots! I'll have you know, rumpsy, that I am a blootbot, and proud of it! If you really want to sift through the rubbish heap of Tcl, it's allegedly sitting somewhere near <ftp://raistlin.toledolink.com/pub/eggdrop>, but don't say I didn't warn you! |
| 04:03.34 | Guerin | [gnubie]: but if you keep acting as if the channel owes you an answer, maybe we will start hatin' on you |
| 04:03.59 | jpinx-eeepc | [gnubie]: try #hardware |
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| 04:04.38 | cast | afternoon Guerin |
| 04:05.13 | [gnubie] | jpinx-eeepc: i'm already there. thanks. |
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| 04:08.23 | adb | linuxjones317, aptitude install usbview |
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| 04:09.45 | Cryptic_Donkey | damn oss its only a trial version |
| 04:10.58 | Arrowmaster | trial version? of what? |
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| 04:11.27 | cast | debian by nature should be devoid of trial software o_0 |
| 04:11.46 | petemc | if only there were some advanced linux sound architectuew |
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| 04:12.03 | [gnubie] | gtg now. thanks. |
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| 04:12.28 | jpinx-eeepc | petemc: alsa not doing it for you? |
| 04:12.55 | Arrowmaster | linux by nature tends to be devoid of trial software, especially trial software you have to compile |
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| 04:13.23 | petemc | im sure it would be, cf Cryptic_Donkey |
| 04:13.28 | jpinx-eeepc | there is *no* "trial" software in stable |
| 04:14.24 | linuxjones317 | adb, maybe im doing something wrong, but i dont think that is telling me where it is either |
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| 04:27.25 | phidah | How do I check if my apache listens to port 443? |
| 04:27.45 | rumpsy | !apache |
| 04:27.45 | dpkg | apache is, like, a versatile, high-performance HTTP server; ask me about <apache2><install apache2><apache 1.3><apache manual>. http://wiki.debian.org/Apache http://httpd.apache.org/ #apache on irc.freenode.net. |
| 04:27.59 | seeS | depends, netstat -nlp will show it |
| 04:28.05 | seeS | as root fuser -n tcp 443 |
| 04:28.32 | phidah | hmm doesn't listen |
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| 04:31.11 | catsup | it's #httpd not #apache :\ |
| 04:32.07 | cast | that sounds rather generic |
| 04:33.18 | Cryptic_Donkey | My sound in youtube files even after downloading the is still screachy |
| 04:33.36 | jpinx-eeepc | Cryptic_Donkey: adjust alsa? |
| 04:33.49 | catsup | well freenode let them register it |
| 04:33.50 | cast | did you try pausing and unpausing, that fixes it for me :< |
| 04:34.41 | jpinx-eeepc | cast: that sounds like a windows/flash fix;) |
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| 04:35.16 | rumpsy | dpkg ladycat |
| 04:35.17 | dpkg | somebody said ladycat was awesome |
| 04:35.35 | cast | jpinx-eeepc: something related to mplayer and video it seems :( |
| 04:35.57 | jpinx-eeepc | cast - download and play in vlc? |
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| 04:36.15 | rumpsy | flv files fails to play in vlc and mplayer |
| 04:36.25 | cast | does vlc need x? |
| 04:36.35 | jpinx-eeepc | rumpsy: plays in vlc for me |
| 04:36.39 | jpinx-eeepc | cast yes |
| 04:36.52 | rumpsy | Are you sure? |
| 04:37.01 | jpinx-eeepc | rumpsy: yes |
| 04:37.06 | rumpsy | cry |
| 04:37.07 | cast | i'll stick to mplayer :< |
| 04:37.12 | Cryptic_Donkey | I think its on you tube end server over load |
| 04:37.24 | jpinx-eeepc | cast mplayer gave me more trouble than vlc ;) |
| 04:37.29 | adb | vlc-nox |
| 04:37.35 | rumpsy | i don't know whether it needs special codecs... |
| 04:37.52 | jpinx-eeepc | Cryptic_Donkey: that is rubbish if the fault continues on downloaded files |
| 04:38.07 | cast | only has 330mb free space so is hesistant to install 2 of the same kind of app |
| 04:38.30 | catsup | you can get .mp4 files from youtube with 'youtube-dl -b' |
| 04:38.32 | jpinx-eeepc | cast: needs aptitude clean and locales-purge |
| 04:38.56 | rumpsy | what is vlc-nox? |
| 04:39.00 | rumpsy | o_O |
| 04:39.02 | somiaj | yea if /var/cache/apt/archives is filled with debs, you can clean those out which is nice |
| 04:39.07 | catsup | rumpsy: vlc without x |
| 04:39.17 | rumpsy | oh... |
| 04:39.28 | jpinx-eeepc | catsup: cool - never heard of that :) |
| 04:39.36 | Cryptic_Donkey | Whoa now squeal ina windows media video play back in iceweaSEL from my father employeers website at crowley |
| 04:39.40 | Cryptic_Donkey | Whoa now squeal ina windows media video play back in iceweaSEL from my father employeers website at crowley.com |
| 04:39.47 | cast | hmm, i have 'locales' installed but that's only 12mb |
| 04:40.06 | rumpsy | how can i install manually abode flash... player and activex.. |
| 04:40.12 | adb | localepurge |
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| 04:40.48 | somiaj | rumpsy: how do you define manually...I just copy the plugin files to $HOME/.firefox/plugins [or wherever it is they are stored] |
| 04:41.03 | jpinx-eeepc | adb: yea - that - I never remember if it has a hyphen or not.... |
| 04:41.26 | rumpsy | I need to for global environment to play flv files |
| 04:41.36 | jpinx-eeepc | cast ^^ |
| 04:41.43 | rumpsy | I need for global environment to play flv files |
| 04:41.45 | cast | localepurge looks scary..! |
| 04:41.59 | jpinx-eeepc | cast: I use it all the time |
| 04:42.01 | somiaj | rumpsy: lots of video players can play flv, I play them with mplayer |
| 04:42.08 | catsup | .flv is a container |
| 04:42.12 | jpinx-eeepc | you can re-install any locales you need |
| 04:42.12 | catsup | there are numerous flv codecs |
| 04:42.18 | rumpsy | o_O why its not playing for me |
| 04:42.22 | catsup | some of them afaik cannot be played without the proprietary flash plugin |
| 04:42.28 | rumpsy | hate flv |
| 04:42.38 | catsup | the hack to get them to work is to put a web server on your machine with the flash plugin |
| 04:42.47 | somiaj | rumpsy: I don't know if adobe produces a flv player for linux outside of the plugin |
| 04:42.49 | catsup | and connect to that with your browser to play it in the proprietary plugin |
| 04:42.56 | jpinx-eeepc | rumpsy: look for one of the youtube downloaders that puts it into .mp4 format |
| 04:43.24 | rumpsy | oh.. you mean converter right? |
| 04:43.28 | jpinx-eeepc | rumpsy: there are addons in iceweasel that do that |
| 04:43.29 | rumpsy | :-DD |
| 04:43.47 | catsup | no it doesn't convert it |
| 04:43.52 | catsup | youtube offers multiple formats |
| 04:44.10 | catsup | it just changes the fmt= argument on the url |
| 04:44.26 | Malf | I use the nvidia package for my graphics driver and I'm wondering if there's a good way to make sure it won't upgrade my kernel or anything else really that will break the old module without being able to rebuild the module also |
| 04:44.37 | Malf | from what I've seen I don't know if I can really do that reliably but figured I'd ask |
| 04:44.43 | catsup | &fmt=18 == mp4 |
| 04:45.42 | somiaj | Malf: if you are using stable a 'security update' to your kernel shouldn't be an issue...and if a newer kernel is installed it keeps the old one around |
| 04:45.56 | Malf | yeah I'm in testing |
| 04:46.01 | Malf | which is why I assume I'm out of luck |
| 04:46.01 | somiaj | Malf: you could 'hold' the package, '/msg dpkg hold' |
| 04:46.07 | Malf | true |
| 04:46.12 | Malf | I've done that before so I suppose I could do that again |
| 04:46.29 | somiaj | Malf: but that won't help if say the kernel changes form 2.6.26 to 2.6.30 in one of your updates |
| 04:46.30 | catsup | you can edit apt.conf |
| 04:46.40 | mhymn | jpinx-eeepc: you could put a 'mp4' right behind .com |
| 04:46.53 | somiaj | Malf: apt should not remove the old 2.6.26 kernel though so you can always boot off of that until you complie the new nvidia module |
| 04:46.57 | Malf | yeah |
| 04:47.08 | Malf | I don't have an issue getting the stuff and building it manually |
| 04:47.11 | catsup | i mean apt preferences |
| 04:47.20 | Malf | I was just seeing if I could get away with being extra lazy with my updates in testing |
| 04:47.24 | rumpsy | thank you guys..... Happy sunday... Take care :-DD |
| 04:47.29 | Malf | and (not at all shockingly) I can not |
| 04:47.39 | catsup | Malf: you can fudge the priority so that kernels will never get upgraded |
| 04:47.41 | somiaj | Malf: you should never be 'extra lazy' with updates, you should always pay attention to what is being updated |
| 04:47.48 | Malf | somiaj: Yeah I know |
| 04:47.59 | somiaj | Malf: and in the case you see a new kenernel package installed, act accordinally |
| 04:48.03 | Malf | catsup: Hah nice. I think I'll just deal with paying attention |
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| 04:48.18 | Malf | somiaj: That's what I've been doing for the past few years |
| 04:49.20 | Malf | Thanks for the help everyone |
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| 05:13.18 | med\weed | so |
| 05:13.25 | med\weed | anyone got a killer howto on: |
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| 05:13.47 | med\weed | 1. fully encrypted install - swap/home/root |
| 05:14.08 | med\weed | mm that should be fine - would like a desktop howto - ive a multimedia focus |
| 05:17.36 | cast | the installer supports that |
| 05:17.40 | cast | hardly need a howto |
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| 05:29.09 | edwin_quijada | update etch to lenny |
| 05:29.19 | edwin_quijada | lenny |
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| 05:29.51 | catsup | !update etch to lenny |
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| 05:29.56 | catsup | !lenny |
| 05:29.56 | dpkg | i guess lenny is the binoculars, or the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 5.0, released on 2009-02-14: http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090214 Ask me about <release notes>, <install debian>, <etch->lenny>, <installer firmware>. Currently <5.0.3>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny |
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| 05:30.06 | catsup | !etch->lenny |
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| 05:30.22 | catsup | hm |
| 05:30.39 | edwin_quijada | etch to lenny |
| 05:30.52 | catsup | edwin_quijada: you need the ! |
| 05:31.08 | edwin_quijada | !etch to lenny |
| 05:31.18 | catsup | !etch->lenny |
| 05:31.34 | catsup | well it works if you /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
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| 05:43.03 | med\weed | cast: |
| 05:43.15 | med\weed | sorry its been a while since i was debian for desktop |
| 05:43.28 | med\weed | thanks |
| 05:45.02 | spal | Is lame available in Squeeze? I can find glame but not lame |
| 05:45.06 | MadMuppet | I am trying to mount a second cd /dvd using mount -t iso9660 /dev/sda2 /media/cdrom1 I have made a dir /media/cdrom1 and entered /dev/sda2 /media/cdrom1 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 into /etc/fstab but I just get an error showing the mount man .. any help appreciated |
| 05:46.24 | cast | spal: debian-multimedia repo? |
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| 05:46.43 | spal | cast, yes. thanks. dpkg told me the same thing. :-) |
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| 05:47.40 | spal | I am trying to convert a WMA file to MP3 file. Let me see if there is any MP3 encoder available within the Debian repo itself |
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| 05:48.58 | cast | why don't you use vorbis-tools |
| 05:49.17 | spal | ok, let me try |
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| 05:50.23 | cast | you'll need to convert to wave first, mplayer probably can |
| 05:51.05 | qtqt | would upgrading to the testing version of xserver-xorg be a headache on an otherwise stable lenny? The list of dependencies it would need to upgrade looks short but has anyone tried this and found other conflicts? |
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| 05:55.50 | med\weed | spal: is there any way for you to aquire a lossless copy? |
| 05:56.07 | med\weed | multiple conversions of audio format turns the quality down considerably |
| 05:56.20 | spal | med\weed, no idea. I am a newbie in audio conversion. |
| 05:56.37 | spal | cast, can't see any tool in vorbis-tools which can generate mp3 output. could you please tell if you know/ |
| 05:56.39 | spal | ?* |
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| 06:00.28 | med\weed | spal: from what to what format again? |
| 06:00.41 | spal | med\weed, WMA to MP3 |
| 06:00.42 | med\weed | yeah wma to mp3 eh |
| 06:00.43 | med\weed | ffs |
| 06:00.47 | med\weed | go use google and stfu |
| 06:00.51 | med\weed | http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&source=hp&q=convert+wma+to+mp3+debian&btnG=Google+Search |
| 06:01.11 | med\weed | when you try the first 10 links and fail then holler :P |
| 06:01.29 | spal | med\weed, so most of the results require lame to be used. which I will do anyway. I just asked whether there is anything within Debian repo that can be used too. |
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| 06:01.45 | med\weed | spal: not a chance. |
| 06:01.51 | med\weed | you need an mp3 encoder to get the job done |
| 06:01.59 | spal | med\weed, to which cast suggested vorbis-tools. may be you can try readint the conversation before asking me to use google. :-) |
| 06:02.03 | med\weed | this was taken out of the 'official' repos a long time ago with mplayer |
| 06:02.03 | spal | read the* |
| 06:02.04 | med\weed | !mplayer |
| 06:02.05 | dpkg | [mplayer] a movie player for Unix-like systems, packaged for Debian. Binary codecs can be installed with the /usr/share/mplayer/scripts/binary_codecs.sh script. For DVD support, ask me about <dvd playback>. Unofficial packages are available on <debian-multimedia>. As an alternative, use a player based on <xine> or <vlc>. Also ask me about <mplayer faq>, <mencoder>. http://www.mplayerhq.hu/ #mplayer on irc.freenode.net. |
| 06:02.11 | med\weed | which i assume is still out not sure |
| 06:02.12 | med\weed | anyway |
| 06:02.12 | spal | med\weed, I know. |
| 06:02.15 | med\weed | liscensing |
| 06:02.22 | spal | lame is available in the multimedia repo though. |
| 06:02.25 | med\weed | but above you were referred to debian-multimedia repo? |
| 06:02.26 | med\weed | yes |
| 06:02.29 | med\weed | i toss in: |
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| 06:02.41 | med\weed | sudo apt-get install sox lame mpg123 |
| 06:02.50 | med\weed | well actually google the mpg123 |
| 06:02.56 | med\weed | it might be 321 or something |
| 06:03.17 | med\weed | it lets you hover on a file in metacity/compiz+nautilus and it just plays - quite handy |
| 06:03.20 | med\weed | anywya um |
| 06:03.24 | med\weed | ffmpeg etc |
| 06:03.37 | med\weed | there are actual packages for conversion btw |
| 06:03.54 | spal | ok |
| 06:04.23 | jony123 | whats the command to find out what the os is running on and that. |
| 06:05.12 | MadMuppet | k I have done a hwinfo --cdrom and found my sda2 is a sr0 or scd0 but still none of these work when I try to mount the drive |
| 06:05.18 | med\weed | soundconverter and soundkonverter for gnome and kde respectively |
| 06:05.30 | med\weed | spal: just make sure to install all recommends - use aptitude install rather than apt get |
| 06:05.38 | med\weed | enjoi ^^ |
| 06:05.43 | spal | ok. yes. i use aptitude install. thanks |
| 06:05.51 | med\weed | you may want to look at streamtuner/streamripper also |
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| 06:12.41 | NoCode | Has anyone used ketchup with any success? (Not the red stuff in the bottle, but the app in the repos) |
| 06:13.31 | Guerin | !anyone use ketchup? |
| 06:13.31 | dpkg | No, no one uses ketchup, not even the people who use it. |
| 06:14.34 | NoCode | Whatever dude. Go eat some fries. |
| 06:14.36 | med\weed | This utility can update (or install) kernel sources automatically. It can search for the newest kernel in numerous trees (vanilla, rc, tiny, mm, mjb, etc.). <- o: |
| 06:14.47 | med\weed | NoCode: its a bot ~_~ |
| 06:15.00 | NoCode | Guerin isn't a bot. |
| 06:15.24 | med\weed | dpkg: is |
| 06:15.26 | dpkg | [is] the country code for iceland |
| 06:15.56 | Guerin | NoCode: the point is it's usually a pointless question. Ask your real question.If it doesn't work for you, or you want to know if it's any good, just ask that. |
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| 06:17.51 | User01 | Hello |
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| 06:27.49 | yang | How well do SSD drives in sony laptops work for Debian ? |
| 06:29.30 | jelly-home | yang: how well do they work with linux at all? |
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| 06:30.42 | swellie | yang, try googling your specific laptop + known linux issues |
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| 06:34.00 | jony123 | how would in in terminal find out about my systems specs? |
| 06:34.22 | yang | jelly-home: well that is what I am asking, how well in general do SSD drives work for linux |
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| 06:36.04 | cupcake | can i pipe the output of a command into a file? such as dmesg for instance? |
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| 06:39.59 | peterrooney | jony123: there's a multitude of packages that can provide human-readable information about your hardware. lspci, lspcmcia, lshw... |
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| 06:47.08 | jelly-home | cupcake: yes, it's called redirection. some command line > somefile |
| 06:47.09 | yacyac | i have a 3g usb modem, when i attach it it works as a mass storage device.. how do i use it as a modem ? |
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| 06:49.00 | cupcake | awesome. thanks jelly-home |
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| 06:50.03 | cahoot | yacyac: run lsusb and look for its usbID - googling on the + linux might help |
| 06:50.16 | yacyac | hmmmm |
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| 06:51.08 | plugd | hey all, has anybody had any success using dzen with wmii? |
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| 06:51.56 | jelly-home | cupcake: you should be able to find a multitude of eg. bash introduction guides on the web; I can't recommend a specific one, sorry |
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| 07:06.18 | MoralExpl | Good day all. Just installed amd64 2.6.26 Having some trouble geting the internet to work anyone around to help? |
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| 07:08.33 | cupcake | ill try my best :P |
| 07:08.47 | cupcake | wired or wireless? |
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| 07:09.16 | MoralExpl | Right now wired. Wireless will have to wait till wired is fixed. |
| 07:10.53 | cupcake | what network card do you have? |
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| 07:11.17 | MoralExpl | What command can I type in to find out? |
| 07:11.26 | MoralExpl | it's not in lspci |
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| 07:12.24 | cupcake | hmm.. try lshw |
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| 07:13.02 | sly007 | Why isn't python 2.6 available in debian? |
| 07:13.32 | MoralExpl | cupcake, command not found, I did ifconfig it didn't see eth0 then i did ifconfig eth0 up now ifconfig sees eth0 |
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| 07:14.36 | cupcake | try to ping localhost |
| 07:14.50 | cupcake | can you see it on lspci now? |
| 07:15.03 | MoralExpl | yes sir I do |
| 07:15.21 | cupcake | what card? is the correct module loaded? |
| 07:15.23 | MoralExpl | Realtek RTL8101E/8102E |
| 07:15.28 | MoralExpl | that is the correct model. |
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| 07:15.37 | MoralExpl | ping does respond to 127.0.0.1 |
| 07:16.40 | cupcake | MoralExpl http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=42324 |
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| 07:17.27 | MoralExpl | thank you sir, ill take a look. |
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| 07:19.40 | MoralExpl | hmm now i gotta find my thumb drive |
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| 07:25.30 | sly007 | Why isn't member:python 2.6 available in debian? |
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| 07:27.41 | simonrvn | because |
| 07:29.49 | sly007 | simonrvn: because what? |
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| 07:30.00 | simonrvn | that's why |
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| 07:30.15 | MoralExpl | it's crazy how needed the internet is. Computer just shutdown because it doesn't have the power managment stuff which I cant get cuz I cant get on the internet :D |
| 07:30.29 | sly007 | simonrvn: why do you even waste time giving answsers like this one? |
| 07:30.50 | simonrvn | because |
| 07:30.59 | sly007 | simonrvn: you're useless |
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| 07:31.45 | simonrvn | sly007: ok ok i'll stop :). seriously though, you'd have to ask the python team for definite answers, but TMK it's because it just isn't ready yet - there's porting issues involved. |
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| 07:32.28 | simonrvn | 2.6 changed some things and it isn't always compatible. and BTW, i'm not useless, you have no right to judge me. |
| 07:33.31 | simonrvn | sly007: it's in experimental... so it *is* in debian, sorta |
| 07:34.09 | sly007 | simonrvn: you were useless to me so long as you were playing with/making fun of me |
| 07:34.14 | sly007 | simonrvn: but thanks anyway |
| 07:35.04 | simonrvn | sly007: fyi, i wasn't making fun of you. i was just playing. i'm sorry if i hurt your feelings, but don't call me useless. |
| 07:35.18 | catsup | omg this conversation is useless |
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| 07:35.26 | catsup | :p |
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| 07:50.14 | cast | so, will my debian install work better with a glossy or non-glossy LCD display? |
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| 07:50.53 | jelly-home | cast: please don't troll this early in the morning |
| 07:51.24 | cast | i'm not trolling, i'm trying to buy a monitor :( |
| 07:51.37 | cast | back in my day. we had only one kind of monitor, and we liked it! |
| 07:52.01 | jelly-home | strongly prefers matte (nonglossy) |
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| 07:52.26 | cast | nods |
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| 07:52.44 | jelly-home | using the monitor as a mirror can be useful, but not always |
| 07:52.55 | cast | matte seems more win to me, ive never had issues with the benefits glossy offer |
| 07:53.23 | cast | or rather, never had any shortcomings with my monitors that glossy would fix. less glare is always good, |
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| 07:54.53 | simonrvn | nicer on your eyes too |
| 07:55.01 | jelly-home | if it's a 100" screen you're looking at from 3+ m distance, you might want to squeeze every lumen out of its RGB output; but if it's used as a monitor... |
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| 07:56.08 | jelly-home | ...make that 40". those 100" LCD are still a bit expensive and nonexisting |
| 07:57.07 | aum | hi - did an 'apt-get upgrade' with sid, it's left me with a broken udev: |
| 07:57.09 | aum | Setting up udev (146-5) ... |
| 07:57.09 | aum | error getting signalfd |
| 07:57.10 | aum | Cannot start udevd. (rc=5) |
| 07:57.10 | aum | dpkg: error processing udev (--configure): |
| 07:57.10 | dpkg | aum: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
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| 07:57.58 | cast | good ol sid, breaking things |
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| 07:59.16 | Posterdati | hi |
| 07:59.25 | Posterdati | please how can I change iceweasel locale? |
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| 08:02.48 | aum | sid hasn't broken anything this seriously for ages |
| 08:04.10 | peterrooney | Posterdati: isn't that in about:config ? |
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| 08:11.12 | Posterdati | peterrooney: ehm no! |
| 08:11.20 | simonrvn | aum: something on your end i think, 'cause mine updated fine. |
| 08:12.13 | aum | found a thread - bug 550200 - suggests my kernel doesn't support signalfd, but my kernel 2.6.24 is built with CONFIG_SIGNALFD=y |
| 08:13.38 | simonrvn | !dbugs 550200 |
| 08:13.42 | dpkg | DONE:#550200:N[udev] udev fails to install (); Thu, 08 Oct 2009 11:09:02 UTC [] |
| 08:14.17 | simonrvn | says done, so it's been fixed and closed (it seems) |
| 08:14.26 | aum | not for me |
| 08:14.34 | aum | my udev fails to install |
| 08:14.52 | simonrvn | which is odd, since that config looks like it shuld be supported. |
| 08:14.58 | simonrvn | should* |
| 08:15.27 | aum | desperate solution - i'm gonna upgrade my kernel and try again |
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| 08:18.26 | simonrvn | good luck |
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| 08:22.02 | aum | hmm, seems my kernel was defining a few things that the latest udev doesn't like |
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| 08:23.26 | doudou | is lenny working now? |
| 08:24.27 | doudou | i have had so many problems, keyboard problems and many others, is it ok now? |
| 08:25.25 | iceroot | doudou: its the stable release, its working fine here |
| 08:25.52 | cupcake | i love lenny. |
| 08:26.34 | doudou | last month i have problem with my non us keyboard, did you fixed that, or is it working fine as before? |
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| 08:26.47 | doudou | maybe as always |
| 08:26.57 | iceroot | doudou: that is a very very bad error-description |
| 08:27.32 | doudou | ho, you did not notice any problem yet? |
| 08:28.01 | iceroot | doudou: write a detailed question/bug report |
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| 08:30.05 | omid8bimo | http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20091008 ... awesome! |
| 08:30.05 | CaDaVeRiA | hi, someone here with experience in Squid!! |
| 08:30.17 | doudou | well, i am not convinced that it will help anything, seems so obvious bug, launch x and have us keyboard but from shell i have my foreign keyboard !! |
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| 08:31.20 | doudou | anyway seems you are too far for anything simple .... maybe keeping head in gnome or i dont know makes ppl forgot simple |
| 08:31.37 | cupcake | doudou, it sounds like an issue with Xorg |
| 08:32.14 | cupcake | doudou, perhaps check keyboard settings in /etc/X11/Xorg.conf |
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| 08:35.12 | si-p | could anyone explain why a partition on a disk would disappear? |
| 08:35.40 | cast | there could be many reasons |
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| 08:36.19 | si-p | how can I tell what has happened? |
| 08:36.59 | si-p | there are no partitions listed in fdisk on a disk I was writing to yesterday |
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| 08:37.18 | cast | and you're sure it's the same disk? |
| 08:37.34 | si-p | i started the machine this morning and can mount the partition ... gone |
| 08:37.45 | cast | can? |
| 08:37.45 | si-p | yes |
| 08:37.49 | si-p | can't |
| 08:37.51 | si-p | sorry |
| 08:38.18 | cupcake | the rest of the disk works fine? |
| 08:39.16 | si-p | bios does see the disk and it appears in dmesg as hdd |
| 08:40.08 | si-p | i have 2 disks, pri master is fine and boots the machine ... so i have a working machine |
| 08:40.09 | doudou | you should understand that if i must loose an hour to fix the keyboard, how long will i loose to fix the os to ,my computer? maybe enought to be ready to buy another computer? |
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| 08:40.50 | doudou | anyway windows seems worse |
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| 08:41.05 | [R] | i forced a package to install, and now apt-get is complaining about conflicts... how can i get it to permanently ignore that? |
| 08:41.06 | si-p | i have another disk that i added a couple of days ago as sec slave, and it's this one that i am having problems with |
| 08:41.24 | si-p | cupcake: ^^ |
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| 08:41.44 | si-p | cupcake: it had only one partition on it, /dev/hdd1 |
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| 08:43.11 | si-p | cupcake,cast: any ideas? and hopefully any steps to correct it? |
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| 08:44.17 | cast | nah, nothing simple in mind |
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| 08:44.37 | cupcake | you said you tried mounting it? |
| 08:45.09 | si-p | cupcake: there's nothing to mount is there? |
| 08:45.39 | si-p | cupcake: if i use fdisk to create a partition will I lose the data? |
| 08:46.44 | cupcake | you said the partition disappeared? |
| 08:46.53 | cupcake | why do you think your data is gone? |
| 08:49.34 | si-p | i dont know whether it has gone, if the partition has disappeared isn't it likely? |
| 08:49.47 | si-p | i reckon the data is all still there on disk |
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| 08:50.23 | cupcake | have you been using fdisk or a partition tool lately? |
| 08:50.32 | si-p | i'm just not sure whether i can create a partition w/o the poss or losing what's there |
| 08:50.59 | si-p | i used fdisk to create the partition and i haven't touched it since |
| 08:51.10 | si-p | it being fdisk |
| 08:51.23 | si-p | i mount the partition and started using it |
| 08:51.43 | si-p | i cant be sure whether this is the first time i've rebooted since doing that |
| 08:52.02 | cupcake | i dunno. if the partition is gone i'd say it's going to be hard if not impossible to get the data back |
| 08:52.02 | si-p | i.e. did i do thing properly |
| 08:52.11 | cupcake | did you reboot after creating the partition? |
| 08:52.15 | si-p | but if i was writing to it i surely had the partition written etc |
| 08:52.30 | cupcake | hehe that could be the problem |
| 08:52.51 | si-p | what? |
| 08:53.10 | si-p | i didn't write the partition properly? |
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| 08:54.07 | cupcake | i always reboot after creating a partition. i'm not 100% sure why but i think you need to. |
| 08:54.24 | si-p | crap |
| 08:54.44 | si-p | i mean, i'm in the crap |
| 08:54.54 | si-p | not what you said was crap :) |
| 08:55.04 | cupcake | i know :) |
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| 08:55.32 | cupcake | so did you reboot and everything is gone? |
| 08:55.51 | si-p | cupcake: is there any log of reboots? |
| 08:56.00 | cupcake | hmm |
| 08:56.10 | si-p | cupcake: i cant be sure whether i did or not |
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| 08:57.50 | cupcake | last reboot | less |
| 08:58.01 | seemawn | hi |
| 08:58.56 | seemawn | how can I force apt to re-download a package although it seems to be installed and the new version? |
| 08:59.07 | seemawn | purging fails. |
| 08:59.16 | si-p | cupcake: no then, i'd not rebooted for a few days |
| 08:59.19 | seemawn | I mean, first purging and reinstalling fails. |
| 08:59.39 | si-p | cupcake: last reboot would have been when i fitted the disk |
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| 09:01.23 | westmi | seemawn: sudo apt-get update (program) |
| 09:02.15 | cupcake | si-p, but you have already transfered data onto the partition? |
| 09:02.23 | si-p | cupcake: yes |
| 09:02.30 | cupcake | meaning, it was already mounted before? |
| 09:02.37 | si-p | cupcake: yes |
| 09:02.43 | cupcake | have you added an entry to /etc/fstab? |
| 09:02.49 | si-p | cupcake: yes |
| 09:02.59 | si-p | cupcake: although i'd not used it to mount |
| 09:03.11 | si-p | cupcake: it'd set it up so it mounted on reboot |
| 09:03.19 | si-p | cupcake: but mounted it manually |
| 09:03.34 | si-p | cupcake: then started to use it |
| 09:03.49 | cupcake | you haven't rebooted since? |
| 09:04.00 | seemawn | westmi, unless apt-get differs btween debian and ubuntu, it just updates the package-list |
| 09:04.02 | cupcake | i think the kernel might need to be rebooted to read the new partition table |
| 09:04.27 | cast | only if / is on the drive |
| 09:04.33 | westmi | debian is ubuntu |
| 09:04.42 | westmi | ubuntu is deb |
| 09:05.27 | westmi | do you have deb? |
| 09:06.08 | seemawn | I am silent because a true answer would charge myself |
| 09:06.16 | westmi | lol |
| 09:06.17 | cast | westmi: no, it's not. |
| 09:06.38 | westmi | ubuntu is not deb? |
| 09:06.51 | boodie | Hi, I have a very annoying problem: my soundcard doesn't start at boot, unless I ran alsaconf every time, then it works perfectly; |
| 09:07.17 | seemawn | boodie, is alsaconf interactive |
| 09:07.17 | si-p | cupcake: no, not rebooted since manually mounting the disk |
| 09:07.24 | seemawn | or can it be un within a script |
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| 09:08.10 | si-p | cupcake: i think the data is still there |
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| 09:08.37 | cast | westmi: correct. |
| 09:08.48 | boodie | In fact alsaconf detects 3 cards, but only one is in place (the first) and the boot-time alsaconf configures the card 0 and then the card 1 (which I guess is one of the non present) ... |
| 09:08.50 | si-p | cupcake: just my admin skills arent good enough to know with confidence what i need to do |
| 09:08.54 | seemawn | would so help me or is using ubuntu a sacrifice? |
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| 09:09.18 | seemawn | I mean I am using ubuntu because I quickly needed a running system |
| 09:09.22 | si-p | cupcake: creating a partition shouldnt touch my data, should it? |
| 09:09.32 | cupcake | si-p i'd try to unmount and reboot |
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| 09:09.48 | si-p | cupcake: i've tried that |
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| 09:09.52 | cupcake | si-p yes, making a new partition will override your data... |
| 09:10.13 | si-p | cupcake: i wanted to see whether the bios recognised the disk as still being there |
| 09:10.38 | si-p | cupcake: so i reboot and check + the kernel sees the disk also |
| 09:10.48 | westmi | seemawn:ubuntu is fine for that |
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| 09:11.42 | starenka | hi, hi can i change system language (including gnome)? (my friend doesn't like english and i dont know where to change it, since i allwayas used kde and english). thx |
| 09:11.44 | si-p | cupcake: are there any other tools that you know of that i can use to look at the disk? |
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| 09:12.33 | cast | od |
| 09:12.34 | seemawn | i know and i also know that ubuntu is a debian competition |
| 09:12.36 | sprink | does anyone know how to get rid of the weird symbols you get over ssh in apps like aptitude using putty? |
| 09:13.07 | westmi | seemawn:yes-correct |
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| 09:14.23 | westmi | and ubuntu is based on debian |
| 09:14.24 | cast | this is #debian, ubuntu has no place here. |
| 09:14.48 | cast | we don't like ubuntu questions. we really don't like ubuntu questions. |
| 09:14.56 | starenka | :) |
| 09:14.59 | westmi | seemawn: #ubuntu |
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| 09:15.33 | seemawn | cast I know. |
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| 09:17.02 | DarkUranium | hey |
| 09:17.14 | DarkUranium | why doesn't alsamixer remember my config? |
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| 09:17.20 | cast | if you have ubuntu and insist on asking questions in here, my i suggest dd conv=swab if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sda bs=8M |
| 09:17.33 | sprink | I have a buncha of |
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| 09:17.57 | cast | wonders if that works |
| 09:18.04 | sprink | uggh, sorry. I have a buncha of weird 'a' symbols in aptitude when using ssh. Does anyone know how to fix this? |
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| 09:19.24 | DarkUranium | sorry, had phone -- anyways, each time I reboot Lenny, I have to open alsamixer, unmute PCM and set the volume to 0 (so that optical out works) |
| 09:19.40 | DarkUranium | any idea why is it doing that and - more importantly - how do I make it remember the config |
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| 09:27.26 | cast | DarkUranium: no idea, but as a workaround you could put a line in rc.local |
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| 09:28.06 | valdyn | DarkUranium: install linux-sound-base and pick alsa |
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| 09:29.49 | DarkUranium | valdyn, it's already installed |
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| 09:30.17 | DarkUranium | cast: but hacks and workarounds can often spell trouble later on =/ |
| 09:30.22 | valdyn | DarkUranium: try running "alsactl store" |
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| 09:30.44 | DarkUranium | valdyn, I did, no output - but I assume the command saves alsa settings |
| 09:30.50 | DarkUranium | s/saves/saved/ |
| 09:30.50 | valdyn | DarkUranium: yea it does |
| 09:30.55 | cast | DarkUranium: setting the volume on boot explicitly won't spell much trouble, unless you're not expecting it |
| 09:31.00 | valdyn | DarkUranium: now try if "alsactl restore" works fine too |
| 09:31.28 | DarkUranium | valdyn, it does :) |
| 09:31.45 | valdyn | DarkUranium: not sure whats your problem then |
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| 09:31.57 | valdyn | DarkUranium: those commands are run on shutdown / boot up |
| 09:32.28 | DarkUranium | valdyn, apparently, store isn't ran on shutdown... |
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| 09:33.05 | valdyn | DarkUranium: check dates on /var/lib/alsa/asound.state to see if its saving |
| 09:33.44 | valdyn | DarkUranium: did you mess with the init scripts in any way at all? |
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| 09:34.30 | DarkUranium | valdyn: I might have added a line or two that appends to $PATH, but nothing else |
| 09:35.36 | sigp239 | How do I make X start automatically as the root user upon bootup? |
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| 09:36.07 | valdyn | DarkUranium: use "/etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop" / "/etc/init.d/alsa-utils start" instead of alsactl store / alsactl restore |
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| 09:36.21 | valdyn | DarkUranium: and verify on your volumes and the date on asound.state if it works as expected |
| 09:37.03 | valdyn | sigp239: why "as root" ? |
| 09:37.22 | valdyn | sigp239: X *can* *only* run "as root" |
| 09:37.45 | valdyn | sigp239: which is why it has the suid bit set |
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| 09:37.56 | sigp239 | valdyn, Because I am making a special live CD that I want to start xorg as the root user automatically. |
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| 09:38.25 | sigp239 | valdyn, I would appreciate if you could point me in the direction of how to get that done. |
| 09:38.25 | sigp239 | Thanks. |
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| 09:38.34 | valdyn | sigp239: you really mean that you want to log into X as root or run startx as root |
| 09:38.54 | valdyn | sigp239: no im not pointing you because thats a stupid idea |
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| 09:39.54 | sigp239 | valdyn, yes that is what I really mean. And this is for a special purpose Live CD. How do I automatically launch startx as root? |
| 09:40.12 | catsup | if you don't know how to do that, perhaps you also don't know why you'd want to do that |
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| 09:41.05 | valdyn | sigp239: install gdm, log into X as a user, start gdmsetup as root, pick a user to log in automatigally |
| 09:41.12 | valdyn | sigp239: that cannot be root however |
| 09:41.12 | catsup | sigp239: try reading man 7 boot, /etc/init.d/README, man 5 inittab |
| 09:41.38 | sigp239 | valdyn, l do not want gdm at all |
| 09:41.46 | DarkUranium | valdyn, thanks for your help, I'll see if this worked in the next reboot :) |
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| 09:47.29 | sigp239 | Which init level is the normal boot for the xorg environment? |
| 09:48.05 | ikonia | sigp239: old school 5, some newer distros like ubuntu using upstart work it to 2 |
| 09:48.30 | catsup | um |
| 09:48.33 | catsup | 'old school'? |
| 09:48.34 | catsup | wtf |
| 09:48.42 | sigp239 | ikonia, I'm talking the latest Debian stable. |
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| 09:49.04 | catsup | debian doesn't use any runlevels besides 1 (single user) and 2 (full system), [and 0 and 6 for reboot and shutdown] |
| 09:49.24 | catsup | thus, X is started in runlevel 2, in debian |
| 09:49.40 | sigp239 | catsup, How do I make it so that xorg launches in runlevel 2? |
| 09:50.03 | catsup | sigp239: you didn't read any of that stuff :\ |
| 09:51.19 | ikonia | catsup: X used to be run level 5 in days gone by, hence "old school" |
| 09:51.33 | catsup | no ikonia |
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| 09:51.40 | Arrowmaster | you install it, if its installed it will run in runlevel 2 by default |
| 09:51.48 | catsup | maybe in YOUR days gone by, when you used to use a redhat-based distro |
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| 09:51.51 | Arrowmaster | unless you change something |
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| 09:52.18 | sigp239 | Arrowmaster, I have xorg installed. It does not run by default. |
| 09:52.20 | catsup | sigp239: alright you can make a file called /etc/rc2.d/S99startx and put 'startx &' in there |
| 09:52.37 | Arrowmaster | you need somethink like gdm, kdm, or xdm |
| 09:52.40 | catsup | that's a shell script, make it +x, put #!/bin/sh on top |
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| 09:52.50 | catsup | that's all you need |
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| 09:53.11 | catsup | if you want to log in as a user instead of root, you can put 'su - user -c startx &' |
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| 09:53.21 | Arrowmaster | you dont want to login as root |
| 09:53.26 | cretsiah | I used debian net-install and only put in the core could some1 tell me how to install "x-window-system twm (vesa driver)" |
| 09:53.28 | catsup | well he says he does |
| 09:53.38 | Arrowmaster | then he doesnt know any better |
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| 09:53.49 | SeySayux | Hi, how do I reconfigure the network with dpkg? |
| 09:53.57 | catsup | Arrowmaster: well you can try and talk him out of it if you like, someone else already failed :\ |
| 09:53.59 | EvilGenius | how can i give a user R/W control over anything owned by "apache" |
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| 09:54.05 | sigp239 | Arrowmaster, Yes I know better. This is a special purpose live CD |
| 09:54.16 | catsup | what is your special purpose sigp239 ? |
| 09:54.37 | catsup | sigp239: do you know it's very easy simply to provide a default user with sudo access? |
| 09:54.45 | jetscreamer | apt-get install xorg twm |
| 09:54.50 | jetscreamer | cretsiah: |
| 09:54.58 | sigp239 | catsup, Government work. Classified in nature. I need to launch xorg as root with a customized openbox and fbpanel that launches specific apps... |
| 09:55.02 | catsup | rofl |
| 09:55.24 | catsup | classified |
| 09:55.24 | jetscreamer | sigp239: gov requires selinux |
| 09:55.25 | jetscreamer | have fun |
| 09:55.28 | cretsiah | yes jetscreamer ?? |
| 09:55.33 | jetscreamer | apt-get install xorg twm |
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| 09:55.42 | jetscreamer | aptitude install xorg twm |
| 09:55.50 | Arrowmaster | gov would never let you run X as root |
| 09:55.59 | jetscreamer | 2nd is the 'preferred' |
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| 09:56.09 | sigp239 | Arrowmaster, you are wrong. |
| 09:56.23 | catsup | you can launch apps as root if necessary |
| 09:56.27 | catsup | anyway |
| 09:56.30 | cretsiah | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:56.38 | jetscreamer | vesa is included |
| 09:56.45 | catsup | frankly you're not competent to make that decision if you don't even know how to start a process on boot :\ |
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| 09:56.55 | jetscreamer | !depends xorg |
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| 09:57.03 | catsup | but whatever |
| 09:57.17 | cretsiah | yeh i dont want all the video cards downloaded which is what is happening to me at teh moment |
| 09:57.23 | catsup | do what you want, that's the way i feel |
| 09:57.25 | jetscreamer | it's small |
| 09:57.29 | dpkg | xorg: depends on xserver-xorg, libgl1-mesa-glx | libgl1, libgl1-mesa-dri, libglu1-mesa, xfonts-base (>= 1:1.0.0-1), xfonts-100dpi (>= 1:1.0.0-1), xfonts-75dpi (>= 1:1.0.0-1), xfonts-scalable (>= 1:1.0.0-1), x11-apps, x11-session-utils, x11-utils, x11-xfs-utils, x11-xkb-utils, x11-xserver-utils, xauth, xinit, xfonts-utils, xkb-data, xorg-docs-core, xterm | x-terminal-emulator |
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| 09:57.35 | sigp239 | I figured /root/.xinitrc would launch openbox-session && fbpanel |
| 09:57.44 | jetscreamer | and a lot of hassle to get it to not d/l |
| 09:57.48 | jetscreamer | but you can |
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| 09:58.34 | jetscreamer | !xinitrc |
| 09:58.34 | dpkg | hmm... xinitrc is just use ~/.xsession instead, ask me about <.xinitrc> for the reason. Also ask about <xsession>. |
| 09:58.43 | jetscreamer | oh yeah wrong way |
| 09:58.50 | jetscreamer | !xsession |
| 09:58.50 | dpkg | methinks xsession is ~/.xsession is used for both XDM and 'startx', when there's no ~/.xinitrc. [See: startx(1)], or best initialized as `echo -e "#! /bin/sh\nsource $HOME/.bash_profile\nsource $HOME/.xinitrc" >$HOME/.xsession', or see this URL for some other tips: http://www.hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/StartX |
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| 09:59.22 | EvilGenius | How can i get a user read/write permissions over anything owned by apache |
| 09:59.26 | Arrowmaster | you cant |
| 09:59.37 | catsup | add the user to the www-data group |
| 09:59.57 | jetscreamer | adduser |
| 09:59.59 | catsup | and possibly adj05:55 <catsup> rofl |
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| 10:00.01 | catsup | oops |
| 10:00.02 | jetscreamer | weird wh |
| 10:00.08 | catsup | and possibly adjust file permissions accordingly |
| 10:00.09 | EvilGenius | thanks |
| 10:00.13 | Arrowmaster | that will only give the permissions to the user that the file already has |
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| 10:00.36 | catsup | Arrowmaster: wha? |
| 10:00.50 | catsup | Arrowmaster: that will do what he needs in an apache installed in debian |
| 10:01.03 | sigp239 | jetscreamer, So .xsession is preferred over .xinitrc?? |
| 10:01.05 | jetscreamer | cretsiah: you could 'possibly' just aptitude install twm it 'might' do what you wanted |
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| 10:01.11 | jetscreamer | sigp239: so it says |
| 10:01.14 | Mkman | hello |
| 10:01.21 | si-p | any idea why a partition would show up in parted and not in fdisk? |
| 10:01.23 | jetscreamer | me i don't care either way, it's ok by me :) |
| 10:01.32 | Mkman | i need a source.list for Debian sid please :) |
| 10:01.43 | jetscreamer | !sources.list |
| 10:01.43 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
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| 10:02.22 | jetscreamer | Mkman: if you don't know how to change sources maybe you don't really want sid |
| 10:02.33 | Mkman | i know what is a souce list |
| 10:02.33 | jetscreamer | but what you do is change stable to sid |
| 10:02.42 | jetscreamer | that's about it |
| 10:02.52 | jetscreamer | sid or unstable, either/or works |
| 10:03.03 | cretsiah | jetscreamer: nah some of the apps i want download their own sections of x then winge bout display if i dont have x-window of some sort |
| 10:03.07 | Mkman | i know, i want change to sid |
| 10:03.22 | jetscreamer | whip out your fav text editor and do so then |
| 10:03.30 | Mkman | but i nedd a souce.list because my sources dont update my kernel |
| 10:03.32 | jetscreamer | same source, different word |
| 10:03.43 | tawan | are there any parts of my system I could mount to ram to speed performance or boot? Example is a tip to mount firefox cache to ram (tmpfs) |
| 10:03.49 | sigp239 | jetscreamer, init 2 will read ~/.xsession ? |
| 10:04.00 | cretsiah | my fav text editor is geany next nano :) |
| 10:04.15 | catsup | tawan: not really. even that firefox tip won't actually hel05:55 <catsup> rofl |
| 10:04.19 | catsup | grr |
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| 10:04.25 | master_alvaro | hello |
| 10:04.45 | jetscreamer | sigp239: if a display manager is set to start in /etc/rc2.d or whatever the directory is |
| 10:04.53 | ikonia | catsup: are you suggesting "no" x didn't used to be run at run level 5 ? |
| 10:04.54 | catsup | tawan: linux already aggressively caches disk |
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| 10:05.02 | master_alvaro | i have "problem" with KDE |
| 10:05.03 | jetscreamer | afaik it gets read when xorg starts |
| 10:05.21 | sigp239 | jetscreamer, I haven't installed a "display manager" -- whatever that is. |
| 10:05.29 | catsup | ikonia: yep; or rather, it still is, but not in debian |
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| 10:05.36 | PiousMinion | Is there a way to acquire and run 'debootstrap' on another distro? |
| 10:05.41 | catsup | ikonia: like i said |
| 10:05.46 | jetscreamer | sigp239: gdm/kdm/xdm ... or it gets read when you do startx |
| 10:05.52 | tawan | catsup, ok thanks ; |
| 10:06.05 | ikonia | catsup: none of the distros using upstart run it at run level 5, that's why I referenced it as old school |
| 10:06.05 | master_alvaro | what is "kde" package? and why version is 5:47/5:48? |
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| 10:06.12 | jetscreamer | sigp239: the autostart xorg thingy |
| 10:06.16 | jetscreamer | with login page |
| 10:06.18 | sigp239 | jetscreamer, I do not want gdm/kdm/xdm. How do I automate the execution of startx? |
| 10:06.22 | catsup | ikonia: oh, ok |
| 10:06.32 | cretsiah | jetscreamer: the diff between xorg and teh x-window pkg is about 200 megs wow!! |
| 10:06.33 | catsup | sigp239: i already told you that |
| 10:06.41 | master_alvaro | is there kde meta package? |
| 10:06.43 | catsup | 05:52 <catsup> sigp239: alright you can make a file called /etc/rc2.d/S99startx and put 'startx &' in there |
| 10:06.50 | catsup | 05:52 <catsup> that's a shell script, make it +x, put #!/bin/sh on top |
| 10:07.01 | jetscreamer | master_alvaro: yes many .. kde being the biggest one that gets you all |
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| 10:07.39 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search kde- |
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| 10:07.53 | master_alvaro | jetscreamer: but why "5:48" version? why not "4.3 or something like that? |
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| 10:08.01 | sigp239 | catsup, I remember that statement of yours. Will that work like 'startx && openbox && fbpanel' ? |
| 10:08.19 | master_alvaro | what this "5:48" mean? |
| 10:08.26 | jetscreamer | master_alvaro: i dunno the metapackages have their own versions which is different from the actual program afaihs |
| 10:08.28 | catsup | sigp239: no |
| 10:09.12 | master_alvaro | ok, thanks |
| 10:09.20 | jetscreamer | sigp239: you would edit something like .bashrc to put startx in your login script, and .xsession for your xorg startup prefs |
| 10:09.38 | jetscreamer | sigp239: i forget exacty which to edit for the login one |
| 10:10.04 | sigp239 | hm |
| 10:10.13 | jetscreamer | !autostart |
| 10:10.18 | jetscreamer | jsut a thought |
| 10:10.25 | jetscreamer | oh well |
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| 10:10.32 | jetscreamer | i used to know |
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| 10:10.56 | Arrowmaster | you really should just get an expert in the netherlands government to help you with this stuff for your classified project |
| 10:10.59 | jetscreamer | maybe profile |
| 10:11.22 | jetscreamer | oh non-us .. maybe they don't require selinux then |
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| 10:11.25 | catsup | jetscreamer: wtf man, you don't ever put that kind of thing in .bashrc |
| 10:11.39 | jetscreamer | catsup: what part of 'i forget' |
| 10:12.15 | catsup | well listen man if you don't know the answer just don't answer; don't guess |
| 10:12.30 | jetscreamer | it's not a guess it's a pointer |
| 10:12.37 | catsup | :\ |
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| 10:12.43 | catsup | it's a pointer in the wrong direction, ok |
| 10:12.50 | cretsiah | jetscreamer: thanx xorg twm is doing what i want for now will report later if I stuff it :) |
| 10:13.02 | jetscreamer | why don't you tell him what to put then lart me |
| 10:13.10 | catsup | i already did tell him |
| 10:13.14 | catsup | twice |
| 10:13.24 | jetscreamer | i must have missed that |
| 10:13.32 | catsup | 06:06 <catsup> 05:52 <catsup> sigp239: alright you can make a file called /etc/rc2.d/S99startx and put 'startx &' in there |
| 10:13.36 | catsup | 06:06 <catsup> 05:52 <catsup> that's a shell script, make it +x, put #!/bin/sh on top |
| 10:13.41 | Arrowmaster | i told him to just install xdm |
| 10:13.53 | sigp239 | Arrowmaster, I do not want xdm |
| 10:13.56 | jetscreamer | how is he going to log in |
| 10:14.05 | catsup | he doesn't have to log in |
| 10:14.26 | jetscreamer | then who would he be logged in as |
| 10:14.30 | catsup | root |
| 10:14.35 | jetscreamer | \o/ |
| 10:14.37 | jelly-home | catsup: running startx as root isn't that smart |
| 10:14.39 | jetscreamer | wtg |
| 10:14.46 | catsup | rofl |
| 10:14.51 | catsup | no shit, but it's what he asked for |
| 10:14.54 | catsup | come on |
| 10:14.54 | Arrowmaster | jelly-home: we keep telling sigp239 that |
| 10:14.57 | catsup | we had this discussion |
| 10:15.00 | sigp239 | this is a live CD. I want to autostart X as the root user. |
| 10:15.08 | catsup | 05:53 <catsup> if you want to log in as a user instead of root, you can put 'su - user -c startx &' |
| 10:15.49 | jelly-home | sigp239: it's still better to run most stuff as user, even if there's no root password (or unlimited sudo access) |
| 10:15.53 | catsup | jelly-home: sigp239 can't tell us why he needs to be root, because this is classified government work |
| 10:16.05 | jelly-home | ahh. say no more! |
| 10:16.19 | jelly-home | can help for mere USD200/hr |
| 10:16.36 | sauvin__ | I'd have expected "government work" to mean only the White House has the root password! |
| 10:16.37 | catsup | um jelly-home |
| 10:16.46 | catsup | jelly-home: you don't have the necessary security clearance |
| 10:16.48 | jetscreamer | non-us gov i believe |
| 10:16.49 | sigp239 | I did not realize that launching xorg automatically as the root user would cause such a fugubuss. |
| 10:17.00 | jetscreamer | !root |
| 10:17.00 | dpkg | It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306 |
| 10:17.07 | Arrowmaster | not US government since hes not using an IP from the US and isnt using selinux |
| 10:17.31 | jelly-home | catsup: my beard and islamic-like last name are misleading |
| 10:17.46 | sigp239 | my IP address is irrelevant to the question. |
| 10:17.48 | catsup | i'll bet the us govt has people working in most IP ranges |
| 10:17.56 | catsup | [his is german] |
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| 10:18.06 | Arrowmaster | his is netherlands |
| 10:18.15 | sigp239 | Stop |
| 10:18.25 | catsup | what? descr: T-Systems GmbH fuer TKS Telepost Kabel-Service KL |
| 10:18.25 | catsup | country: DE |
| 10:18.33 | sigp239 | omg |
| 10:19.07 | jelly-home | sigp239: you've obviously never tried to run various apps as root. They may groan and complain, and unless for a specific embedded purpose, it's preferred not to to that |
| 10:19.28 | catsup | another one tries to argue :\ |
| 10:19.37 | sauvin__ | I never do anything as root unless there's just no johice. |
| 10:19.39 | catsup | predicts jelly-home will fail like the others |
| 10:19.43 | sauvin__ | choice. |
| 10:19.52 | jelly-home | catsup: ? |
| 10:20.04 | catsup | jelly-home: to convince sigp239 i mean |
| 10:20.06 | jetscreamer | convincing him not to run as root, i think |
| 10:20.12 | jetscreamer | damn i'm smurt |
| 10:20.17 | Arrowmaster | bah your right silly whois i used didnt followup and check the whois server in the reply it got |
| 10:20.22 | jelly-home | catsup: not trying to |
| 10:23.31 | SeySayux | Hi, I can connect to IP addresses, but not to domain names (i.e. the dns resolving doesn't work). Does anybody know why that's happening? |
| 10:24.04 | azeem | SeySayux: are you connected via router? |
| 10:24.07 | dutchfish | just my 2 cents but on high secure systems i disable root completely and have an admin-like account for adminstration making root boobytrap is not uncommmon |
| 10:24.13 | SeySayux | azeem: yes, two in fact |
| 10:24.17 | azeem | two? |
| 10:24.27 | SeySayux | yup |
| 10:24.40 | azeem | SeySayux: pastebin the output of "route -n" and "cat /etc/resolv.conf" |
| 10:24.42 | azeem | !pastebin |
| 10:24.43 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>. |
| 10:25.20 | SeySayux | azeem: ooh, nevermind, there's something wrong in resolv.conf |
| 10:26.30 | jetscreamer | isn't that overwritten every boot? |
| 10:26.40 | jetscreamer | or written anew? |
| 10:27.00 | SeySayux | nop, because it's working now :) thanks guys |
| 10:27.19 | catsup | jetscreamer: the resolvconf package will rewrite it; but you don't need to have that package |
| 10:27.19 | jetscreamer | ah you rebooted and tested, silly me |
| 10:27.36 | jetscreamer | iirc it's installed by default |
| 10:27.39 | jetscreamer | not sure |
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| 10:34.33 | sphenxes | what is the different between -a and -r in rsync. Is -a enough to use it with rsync command (without r) or must i use both of them? |
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| 10:35.57 | llutz | sphenxes: "man rsync" tells you the difference |
| 10:36.02 | cretsiah | how woul di get a list of installed components/programs/apl;ication only? |
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| 10:36.36 | jetscreamer | dpkg --get-selections > file.list |
| 10:36.37 | dpkg | jetscreamer: are you using Windows? |
| 10:36.45 | sphenxes | llutz, i am comming from man page, one is archieve and the other is recruse the directory, still would like to know the difference |
| 10:36.46 | jetscreamer | i have been found out! |
| 10:36.46 | llutz | cretsiah: list of installed packages "dpkg -l |grep ^ii" |
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| 10:36.52 | mikeX | hello, which backup method would you recommmend for backing up to dvd media. It's not whole system, but I still want to preserver ownership, permissions and times |
| 10:37.03 | jetscreamer | tar |
| 10:37.13 | catsup | wtf jetscreamer man |
| 10:37.16 | llutz | sphenxes: from man-page: "... -a, --archive archive mode; equals -rlptgoD (no -H,-A,-X)" |
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| 10:37.42 | mikeX | jetscreamer: I'm not sure how reliable this is, e.g. in case of read errors in the dvd media |
| 10:37.44 | sphenxes | llutz, thanks |
| 10:37.49 | mikeX | jetscreamer: would I lose the whole backup then? |
| 10:37.59 | jetscreamer | quite possibly |
| 10:38.07 | mikeX | well that's out of the question then |
| 10:38.11 | jetscreamer | sometimes it can be recoverable |
| 10:38.20 | jetscreamer | me i just backup to another hd |
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| 10:38.30 | jetscreamer | or two |
| 10:38.51 | jetscreamer | depends on how bad i don't want to lose the data |
| 10:38.54 | llutz | mikeX: dvd/cd are never recommended for backups |
| 10:39.02 | catsup | you wouldn't want to use tar on a dvd anyway |
| 10:39.13 | jetscreamer | tar it up then write to dvd duh |
| 10:39.15 | catsup | squashfs is a good fs for dvd images |
| 10:39.17 | tones | guys, is there any way of resetting the "disk label magic" of an lvm pv? grub2 doesnt like the current one |
| 10:39.18 | mikeX | still, that's my only option atm |
| 10:39.38 | valdyn | mikeX: you can use *any* fs on a dvd |
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| 10:39.45 | mikeX | llutz: btw, any idea why rsync -a does not preserve directory permissions? |
| 10:39.50 | jetscreamer | my cat is horny again... now that's def. debian related |
| 10:39.56 | valdyn | mikeX: you just have to create it completely before burning |
| 10:40.07 | jetscreamer | sees a trip to the vet soon in the future |
| 10:40.08 | valdyn | mikeX: ext3 or fat or whatever the hell you want |
| 10:40.16 | mikeX | valdyn: so I could just create an ext2 fs image, dump the files \there and burn it |
| 10:40.19 | sigp239 | catsup, if I make a file called /etc/rc2.d/S99startx and put 'startx &' in there, can I also put openbox-session and fbpanel in that file? |
| 10:40.22 | llutz | mikeX: it does |
| 10:40.25 | valdyn | mikeX: sure |
| 10:40.34 | mikeX | I see, thanks valdyn |
| 10:40.39 | catsup | sigp239: no |
| 10:40.50 | valdyn | mikeX: or you can do something silly as me and burn a huge file directly |
| 10:40.58 | valdyn | mikeX: like a tar |
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| 10:41.12 | sigp239 | catsup, I want to accomplish not only starting xorg at boot, but also openbox and fbpanel as well. |
| 10:41.15 | dutchfish | tones, if you are on squeeze the conversion tool form legacy to grub2 will do that for you, if you are on lenny i dont know ... porlly it cant |
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| 10:41.38 | mikeX | llutz: weird, it makes some of the dirs 0700 for root only, when they actually belong to a different user |
| 10:41.45 | cretsiah | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:41.50 | tones | dutchfish: thanks, i am on lenny.. thats a bit annoying, thanks anyway |
| 10:41.52 | catsup | sigp239: run those commands in your xsession like this: 'fbpanel & exec openbox' |
| 10:42.10 | llutz | cretsiah: not on a german-keyboard :=) |
| 10:42.15 | dutchfish | tones, you might have a peak how to conversion tool does it in its source from squeeze |
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| 10:42.22 | dutchfish | s/to/the |
| 10:42.22 | mikeX | valdyn: well, wouldn't that lose the whole backup on some read error (or the files following the problematic sector)? |
| 10:42.46 | cretsiah | oh um whats it mean? # * ?? |
| 10:42.48 | valdyn | mikeX: no idea how tar solves that |
| 10:42.54 | tones | dutchfish: good idea, will do :) |
| 10:42.54 | valdyn | mikeX: i dont think it would break |
| 10:42.56 | sigp239 | catsup, so......you mean, make a file called /etc/rc.2/S99startx and put 'startx &' in there, and then make a /root/.xsession file and put 'fbpanel & exec openbox' in there ? |
| 10:42.59 | dutchfish | tones, yw |
| 10:43.14 | valdyn | mikeX: in my case i burnt mkv straight because the usual dvd filesystems cant store large files |
| 10:43.28 | catsup | sigp239: yeah, and #!/bin/sh on the first line of the files, and chmod +x the files |
| 10:43.39 | mikeX | valdyn: I see |
| 10:43.57 | llutz | cretsiah: it's called "caret" |
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| 10:44.12 | valdyn | mikeX: theres tools to create archives with redundancy |
| 10:44.31 | sigp239 | catsup, I have an /etc/rc2.d/ |
| 10:44.38 | sigp239 | catsup, Is that rather what you mean? |
| 10:44.58 | valdyn | mikeX: but generally you should consider using a harddisk, not dvd |
| 10:45.00 | catsup | mikeX: it's documented in tar info docs, about your question about recovering from errors |
| 10:45.07 | valdyn | mikeX: that can be cheaper and *will* be more reliable |
| 10:45.31 | catsup | sigp239: i meant exactly what i said, i am already being so specific, telling you to do these things, when you don't understand them, that it is a little bit absurd :\ |
| 10:45.40 | mikeX | catsup: thx |
| 10:46.04 | valdyn | catsup: and all that to do something that he really shouldnt do ( use X as root ) |
| 10:46.42 | mikeX | valdyn: probably, but it's not an option atm |
| 10:47.02 | sigp239 | catsup, Apologies |
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| 10:47.35 | catsup | it's alright man |
| 10:47.39 | cretsiah | valdyn: im using xorg in root :( but im only experimenting its not a critical system |
| 10:47.43 | catsup | you got all the info you need, it'll work |
| 10:47.45 | dutchfish | tones, for mor ein you could ask #grub |
| 10:48.12 | niklaswe | how are you guys ? :) |
| 10:48.55 | tones | dutchfish: is there a #grub2? that may be more appropriate, but thanks for the heads up |
| 10:49.10 | dutchfish | tones, #grub for both |
| 10:49.12 | jetscreamer | grub is grub |
| 10:49.22 | tones | dutchfish: ok |
| 10:49.35 | dutchfish | yw |
| 10:50.43 | valdyn | judd: versions grub-pc |
| 10:50.43 | judd | valdyn: grub-pc -- lenny: 1.96+20080724-16 squeeze: 1.97~beta3-1 sid: 1.97~beta4-1 |
| 10:50.43 | valdyn | tones: i dont think you should bother fixing lennies grub2 |
| 10:50.51 | valdyn | tones: better idea to use a recent grub2 |
| 10:50.59 | valdyn | tones: if you then must use it at all |
| 10:50.59 | jetscreamer | lenny's |
| 10:51.29 | jetscreamer | <--grammer nazi with spellcheck |
| 10:51.46 | sigp239 | catsup, Alright, I have xorg launching as the root user automatically on boot now. Thank you. |
| 10:52.00 | catsup | cool |
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| 10:52.20 | jetscreamer | way to recreate the wheel! |
| 10:52.28 | jetscreamer | (knoppix) |
| 10:52.41 | jetscreamer | no, even knoppix doesn't run as root |
| 10:52.53 | sigp239 | catsup, And it is launching openbox apparently, even though I didn't call for that specifically anywhere. |
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| 10:52.58 | mikeX | catsup: any clue how well squashfs deals with read errors etc? |
| 10:53.25 | valdyn | mikeX: filesystems dont deal with read errors |
| 10:54.34 | valdyn | mikeX: in general, either the subsystems return *some* data or your system call gets stuck |
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| 10:54.36 | mikeX | well, I meant if files would be still be recoverable, in case of unreadable sectors |
| 10:55.07 | valdyn | !squashfs |
| 10:55.07 | dpkg | SquashFS is a compressed read-only filesystem for Linux. To enable support within Debian systems (Etch, Lenny): "aptitude install squashfs-modules-$(uname -r)". Merged with the mainline kernel, available in 2.6.29 and later. http://squashfs.sf.net/ |
| 10:56.00 | valdyn | mikeX: you would loose the whole block |
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| 10:56.20 | catsup | mikeX: if you really want redundancy in case of errors there are solutions |
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| 10:56.33 | catsup | mikeX: there's a format called 'par' i believe the debian package is 'parchive' |
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| 10:57.11 | catsup | you can use 'par' to create a sort of RAID-like split of a squashfs filesystem or a tar file or whatever, with arbitrarily as much redundancy as you want |
| 10:58.14 | mikeX | thanks a lot, valdyn, catsup |
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| 11:03.20 | mikeX | this page seems to have some useful information as well, http://danielwebb.us/software/backup/ |
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| 11:09.22 | sigp239 | catsup, When you launch from /etc/rc2.d/S99startx file with '#!bin/sh startx &' where does it read for openbox and fbpanel? |
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| 11:10.07 | catsup | sigp239: the 'startx' command reads your xsession file (i.e, $HOME/.xsession ) |
| 11:10.20 | sigp239 | catsup, Okay, thanks. |
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| 11:12.14 | sigp239 | catsup, And is ~/.xsession does to exist.....create it and execute whatever you want in there? |
| 11:12.36 | mikeX | sigp239: yes |
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| 11:13.14 | mikeX | sigp239: it's basically a shell script |
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| 11:13.33 | Ben10 | hi sir |
| 11:13.40 | Ben10 | i have install sendmail in my debian |
| 11:13.50 | Ben10 | but i don know it is start or not |
| 11:13.57 | Ben10 | could you give me idea to start it? |
| 11:14.02 | Ben10 | when i type ps -aux |
| 11:14.09 | Ben10 | i did not show information about sendmail |
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| 11:15.24 | sigp239 | catsup, mikeX How does this look? http://debian.pastebin.com/m5cb77e94 |
| 11:15.35 | cafaro | Is it possible to create multiple partitions (including swap) within one software RAID using Debian 5's installer? If so, how? |
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| 11:18.24 | niklaswe | hmm i have some problem to install debian from pxeboot, It´s start the installtion but when in will install everything i got messages no kernel modules where found. i have download the image-files from debian mirror. |
| 11:18.43 | mikeX | sigp239: (sleep 2 && fbpanel) & then openbox, in the foreground |
| 11:18.59 | mikeX | not sure, but I think the window manager has to be the last thing executed, and in the foreground |
| 11:19.44 | jogla | Why do people keep using accents instead of ' |
| 11:22.49 | mikeX | sigp239: I use something like this to delay execution in my .xsession, after() { TIME=$1 shift ( sleep $TIME && $@ ) & |
| 11:23.11 | mikeX | but if it's just one command it's nto worth a function |
| 11:23.16 | cretsiah | whe u use " ps -aux " what does the colum VSZ stand for/mean? |
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| 11:24.40 | jogla | VSZ: virtual memory size of the process in KiB (1024-byte units). Device mappings are currently excluded; this is subject to change. (alias vsize). |
| 11:24.42 | catsup | cafaro: yes |
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| 11:25.32 | cretsiah | ok ty just trying to work out why the system seems so heavy !! |
| 11:25.41 | catsup | cafaro: just create the raid, then create an LVM vg including the raid device, then create LVM lv's for your partitions and swap. [that's the best way.] |
| 11:26.22 | catsup | sigp239: no that's wrong, man |
| 11:26.26 | catsup | sigp239: that's not what i said to put in there |
| 11:26.30 | sigp239 | mikeX, My '/etc/rc2.d/S99startx' already launches a /usr/bin/openbox process |
| 11:26.47 | catsup | sigp239: i said 'fbpanel & exec openbox' which will work fine |
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| 11:27.12 | catsup | sigp239: what you're doing is running both processes in the background, which means that the whole thing will exit. that sleep just delays the exit for 2 seconds. |
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| 11:27.37 | sigp239 | catsup, My /etc/rc2.d/S99startx contains #!bin/sh followed on the next line by startx & |
| 11:27.49 | catsup | sigp239: that's not what i'm talking about |
| 11:27.55 | catsup | jesus man |
| 11:28.32 | sigp239 | catsup, The above line starts a /usr/bin/openbox process |
| 11:28.52 | catsup | dude seriously what i said the first time was correct |
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| 11:30.09 | sigp239 | catsup, I am sorry. Please tell me, what file to I put 'fbpanel & exec openbox' in? |
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| 11:31.20 | catsup | sigp239: .xsession |
| 11:31.22 | niklaswe | sigp239: in your ~/.xinitrc |
| 11:31.36 | catsup | !xinitrc |
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| 11:31.36 | dpkg | somebody said xinitrc was just use ~/.xsession instead, ask me about <.xinitrc> for the reason. Also ask about <xsession>. |
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| 11:32.16 | niklaswe | !.xinitrc |
| 11:32.17 | dpkg | it has been said that .xinitrc is actually ~/.xinitrc, which is used for running X as startx, and ~/.xsession is for when using X from a Display Manager like xdm or kdm. .xinitrc is discouraged in Debian, as if you just use ~/.xsession it will work from both startx and the display manager, as documented in startx(1) |
| 11:33.12 | macrobat | discouraged? and now they tell me :) |
| 11:33.23 | sigp239 | catsup, Why is openbox launching even though I have no /root/.xsession file? |
| 11:34.14 | catsup | sigp239: there's a default xsession in /etc/X11/Xsession |
| 11:34.50 | catsup | sigp239: it will launch /usr/bin/x-window-manager as a window manager which is a link to openbox on your system |
| 11:34.53 | sigp239 | catsup, And the presence of a /root/.xsession will override the default /etc/X11/Xsession? |
| 11:34.56 | catsup | yes |
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| 11:36.34 | valdyn | !fish |
| 11:36.34 | dpkg | fish is probably Give a man a fish and you'll feed him a day. Teach him how to fish and he'll feed himself for the rest of his life." This is so appropriate. Instead of asking us to tell you exactly what to do, ask us which docs to read, read them, then come back and ask specific questions which aren't covered (also ask me about <fire>). Also the "Friendly Interactive SHell": http://fishshell.org |
| 11:37.31 | cretsiah | query? i have base debian with xorg-twm, geany, iceweasel, pkg's loaded from the net-install cd web server, file server, print server and free says it is using 406 out of 512megs?? |
| 11:37.47 | valdyn | !free ram |
| 11:37.47 | dpkg | Unlike information, your computer's memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux tries to use free physical memory for caching files from disk which speeds up disk access considerably. Linux releases RAM from these caches if programs need it. If you want to know how much physical memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use, it's 'free' + 'buffers' + 'cache'. Also ask me about <swapwake>. |
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| 11:39.06 | cretsiah | !swapwake |
| 11:39.06 | dpkg | After hibernation, you can load back into memory as much as possible from swap and also load files back into the kernel's file cache to help reduce the disk thrashing that occurs when waking up after suspend-to-disk (although this doesn't seem to be needed with the kernels in lenny onwards): cat `cat /proc/[0-9]*/maps | grep / | sed 's:.* /:/:' | grep -v /dev | sort -u` > /dev/null |
| 11:39.15 | transplant | Also, X server mmaps the video memory and this counts as a lot of usage |
| 11:39.17 | sigp239 | catsup, I have this in my "/root/.xsession" file: http://debian.pastebin.com/m69625f1e |
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| 11:39.40 | valdyn | transplant: mmap is not in "free" |
| 11:39.42 | sigp239 | catsup, But fbpanel is not loading. I have fbpanel package installed. |
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| 11:41.17 | catsup | sigp239: what if you launch fbpanel from an xterm? |
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| 11:41.29 | sigp239 | catsup, then fbpanel loads just fine. |
| 11:41.39 | cretsiah | ok so if it wasnt caching to ram but to hd how much of a diff would it make to ram? |
| 11:41.56 | valdyn | cretsiah: read again what dpkg said |
| 11:41.59 | mreh | why is it possible that some applications wouldn't show up in lsof /dev/snd/* when they were before (because the sound was working) |
| 11:42.16 | valdyn | cretsiah: the ram used as cache is *exactly* listed in the output of the "free" command |
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| 11:43.03 | catsup | sigp239: well, that's strange |
| 11:43.10 | transplant | valdyn, is Shm'd memory in free? |
| 11:43.25 | sigp239 | catsup, I think the system is ignoring my /root/.xsession file |
| 11:43.30 | catsup | maybe |
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| 11:44.14 | valdyn | transplant: what the hell is "shm'd" memory supposed to be? |
| 11:44.27 | sigp239 | catsup, and it is also ignoring my /etc/X11/Xsession because I just added 'fbpanel &' to the end of that file and rebooted and fbpanel did not launch. |
| 11:44.31 | transplant | XShm extension (no bad lang plz) |
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| 11:44.40 | valdyn | transplant: sure |
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| 11:45.26 | valdyn | transplant: i dont know its implementation though, its listed to the extent in which its backed by physical ram |
| 11:45.32 | catsup | you shouldn't edit Xsession you should add files to /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ |
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| 11:45.47 | catsup | try doing that, add a file that says 'fbpanel &' and delete your .xsession |
| 11:46.10 | transplant | And i am not sure about the fact that free doesn't count mmaped memory: malloc may use mmap for very large requests |
| 11:46.46 | valdyn | transplant: no matter how large the file you mmap is, the actual physical memory used is <= that amount |
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| 11:46.57 | valdyn | transplant: free only lists the physical memory used |
| 11:47.03 | transplant | anonymous memory map |
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| 11:48.25 | cafaro | catsup: I created a RAID device, how do I create VG including that device? |
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| 11:49.02 | catsup | well cafaro i'm not sure because i haven't got it in front of my eyes, but there should be something like 'configure LVM' or such |
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| 11:51.59 | cretsiah | valdyn: I thjink i understand it now :) freee+buffer+cache=352 so it means actual processes (ie window manager+web server+what ever)are only using 60megs out of 512megs available |
| 11:52.28 | valdyn | cretsiah: yea |
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| 11:55.21 | cretsiah | ok thanx ... debians 60megs as apposed to windows 512+ is big diff hahaha goodnight |
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| 11:55.38 | valdyn | cretsiah: windows uses the same priciples |
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| 11:57.16 | vlt | Hello. I want to install the same packages as on machine A to machine B. I tried `B # ssh A "dpkg --get-selections" | dpkg --set-selections`. No error is reported but no packages are installed. What is missing here? |
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| 11:59.04 | cretsiah | oh? hhmm must be all the other crap u gotta have on it that makes it so slow :) |
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| 12:00.23 | catsup | !debian clone |
| 12:00.23 | dpkg | One method of cloning debian installs is to take a current debian machine that is setup with the packages you want and run the command "dpkg --get-selections > ~/selectionfile". Then, after the base install on other machines use that file and do: "dpkg --set-selections < ./selectionfile && apt-get dselect-upgrade". Also ask me about <aptitude clone><reinstall><things to backup> |
| 12:00.44 | JyZyXEL | how do i see how many memory modules i have hooked to the MB? |
| 12:01.12 | catsup | open up the case :p |
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| 12:01.25 | JyZyXEL | no i mean from the OS |
| 12:01.30 | catsup | i know |
| 12:01.30 | cahoot | decode-dimms |
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| 12:01.32 | catsup | hence :p |
| 12:01.49 | JyZyXEL | ? |
| 12:01.51 | cahoot | or simply dmidecod I guess |
| 12:02.04 | cahoot | dmidecode |
| 12:02.05 | vlt | catsup: Thank you. Just wanted to ask for the "apply" command ;-) |
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| 12:02.54 | JyZyXEL | it didn't tell |
| 12:03.09 | JyZyXEL | i got CPU and MB information |
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| 12:05.34 | cahoot | so try decode-dimms (in lm-sensors) |
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| 12:07.50 | ONE_PATE | hi |
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| 12:10.09 | nimred | hello #debian |
| 12:10.21 | dukebody | Hello, I'm using Debian Squeeze and I think that my icons in Amarok 2 are broken. http://twitpic.com/l3xjs Do I have to install a special package to get appropiate icons for Amarok? |
| 12:10.30 | nimred | is there a way to install Debian without grub or lilo ? |
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| 12:11.25 | JyZyXEL | cahoot: thanks, that helped |
| 12:11.33 | catsup | nimred: sure. how do you want to boot though? |
| 12:12.24 | nimred | catsup i already have a boot loader installed on MBR and want to use it to boot Debian |
| 12:12.36 | catsup | oh well that won't work probably |
| 12:12.45 | nimred | debian installer didn't allow me to not install grub |
| 12:12.51 | catsup | i mean is your bootl oader capable of loading linux? i'll bet not :\ |
| 12:12.55 | catsup | what is it? |
| 12:13.11 | catsup | the debian installer lets you not install grub, if you choose advanced, and skip that step |
| 12:13.16 | nimred | why would not it be able to ? |
| 12:13.27 | catsup | most can't |
| 12:13.30 | catsup | what is it |
| 12:13.38 | nimred | i tried to skip but it forced me to install |
| 12:13.59 | catsup | [dos mbr can't, dos mbr has to launch a linux loader] |
| 12:14.20 | catsup | did it hold a gun to your head? heh |
| 12:14.57 | nimred | yes it did catsup |
| 12:15.03 | catsup | oh :\ |
| 12:15.04 | catsup | how violent |
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| 12:15.24 | nimred | a gnu was sitting near me with gun pointed to my head |
| 12:15.31 | catsup | hahaha |
| 12:15.47 | nimred | i was so afraid that i accepted grub |
| 12:16.00 | catsup | :p |
| 12:16.04 | dukebody | nevermind |
| 12:17.10 | nimred | i would prefer next time i install debian to not have this gnu sitting near me |
| 12:17.50 | catsup | well the thing is if you aren't going to install one of those bootloaders you'll have to manually install a different loader yourself [if you want the system to boot] |
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| 12:18.05 | catsup | in that case all you have to do is skip the last step |
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| 12:18.46 | nimred | catsup that's what i try to do |
| 12:18.51 | nimred | but installer didn't skip |
| 12:18.56 | catsup | oh :\ |
| 12:19.00 | nimred | does it skip only in advanced mode ? |
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| 12:19.05 | catsup | yeah advanced mode only |
| 12:19.23 | catsup | where you have the menu of steps |
| 12:19.31 | nimred | i see |
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| 12:28.30 | PiousMinion | Is it possible to install debian to a loopback device file? |
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| 12:33.08 | jogla | To serve what purpose? |
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| 12:37.58 | catsup | PiousMinion: it is, but not without some command line shenanigans |
| 12:38.03 | wald0 | after a forced shutodwn, my JFS partition of data looks to be f**** up, one file of a database has differents contents now, i can recover it... but how i can know what other files i can have broked ? |
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| 12:39.13 | PiousMinion | catsup: I'm fine with that. You know how? |
| 12:39.45 | catsup | PiousMinion: sure just make the loopback dev and mount it on /target in the installer |
| 12:40.00 | catsup | PiousMinion: another completely different method is to use debootstrap |
| 12:40.07 | catsup | [instead of the installer] |
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| 12:40.49 | catsup | of course you have to do that at the appropriate point during the install, and skip the crap about partitioning your install, etc., but if you know what you're doing, it should all be easy |
| 12:41.04 | PiousMinion | catsup: I haven't had any luck getting debootstrap to run on a different distro. |
| 12:41.19 | PiousMinion | gotcha |
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| 12:45.58 | wald0 | it is BTRFS ready to use ? |
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| 12:46.13 | wald0 | could be nice to have a snapshots and checksums filesystem |
| 12:46.24 | wald0 | how i can know that there's no other files broken on my filesystem ? |
| 12:46.50 | maligor | No, it isn't |
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| 12:48.17 | wald0 | maligor: is there any "checksum" featured filesystem available ? i mean, a filesystem that will check the integrity of the files to see if there's not anyone broken |
| 12:49.02 | catsup | not in debian |
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| 12:49.34 | catsup | although git does that |
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| 12:54.30 | riot | heya |
| 12:54.41 | riot | wow.. gtk in unstalbe is fscked up nicely.. |
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| 12:55.05 | dKingston | i wonder, how do you see what ip's are currently allocated to the box? |
| 12:55.37 | PiousMinion | ifconfig |
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| 12:56.33 | riot | zomg.. elisa is fscked up, too |
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| 12:56.50 | riot | hmhm. seemingly, ALL dlna-media-servers are fscked up |
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| 12:57.24 | riot | why do people related to that stuff like to upload b0rked source AND packages?! i don't get it |
| 12:58.32 | wald0 | catsup: about the git thing, is for me ? |
| 12:58.56 | xyan | riot: thats why its called unstable, find bugs, report, wait for them beeing fixed; fix them yourself or use stable/testing instead |
| 12:59.14 | riot | xyan: oh. Too nice of you to explain. |
| 12:59.33 | xyan | riot: don't complain then |
| 12:59.41 | jpinx-eeepc | !testing |
| 12:59.41 | dpkg | i heard testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <squeeze>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <lenny->squeeze> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging to use testing and should be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
| 12:59.58 | wald0 | catsup: what does git with checksum ? |
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| 13:00.17 | riot | are you two now trying to convince me to a downgrade?? lol! |
| 13:00.28 | jpinx-eeepc | yes |
| 13:00.45 | riot | whoa.. no no no no no.. running unstable for 10 years now. You can't stop me! |
| 13:00.53 | jpinx-eeepc | thre is no need to run testing unless you really know what you're doing |
| 13:01.13 | jpinx-eeepc | then don't come on here and comment :p |
| 13:01.15 | riot | i just found out, they moved from "elisa" to "moovida".. shoulda have checked their homepage :) |
| 13:01.19 | PiousMinion | I don't think there is ever a need to run unstable. |
| 13:01.29 | riot | define "need" |
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| 13:01.38 | jpinx-eeepc | testing is for testers, not for users |
| 13:01.38 | riot | i like cutting edge, so i go with unstable. |
| 13:01.43 | riot | and even experimental |
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| 13:01.54 | PiousMinion | riot: unstable is only about 10 days ahead of testing. |
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| 13:02.11 | riot | i just wondered _how_ fscked up some gtk-packages are currently :) |
| 13:02.22 | chellomere | PiousMinion, in the best case. |
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| 13:02.34 | chellomere | PiousMinion, transitions can take a while. |
| 13:02.35 | jpinx-eeepc | in here we promote stable, maybe with backports ;) |
| 13:02.38 | riot | and in the worst case i'm stuck with fugly software. |
| 13:02.54 | abrotman | PiousMinion: that's not always true |
| 13:03.01 | riot | i like my sid. *pats box* |
| 13:03.04 | abrotman | some packages can take months |
| 13:03.19 | jpinx-eeepc | why not run testing or unstable in a VM? |
| 13:03.51 | jogla | I think i found a bug, i want to check back with you guys before reporting anything: |
| 13:03.54 | jogla | http://nopaste.com/p/aMbI9biW9 |
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| 13:04.12 | jogla | Purple.pm is provided by libpurple0, but does not work. |
| 13:04.21 | jpinx-eeepc | riot seems to be mixing testing and unstable - even worse.. |
| 13:04.35 | riot | i'm not mixing. |
| 13:04.41 | riot | i tried but it didn't help ;) |
| 13:04.51 | jpinx-eeepc | riot in your conversation here you are |
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| 13:05.01 | riot | huh? |
| 13:05.08 | nkuttler | riot: by definition you're mixing if you say you use experimental... |
| 13:05.23 | abrotman | jogla: semi-looks like you might be mixing versions of debian |
| 13:05.29 | jpinx-eeepc | 07:53 < riot> wow.. gtk in unstalbe is fscked up nicely.. |
| 13:05.37 | riot | nkuttler: got me. Yes, but only a few packages. |
| 13:05.38 | jonathan_ | abrotman: I'm not |
| 13:05.54 | riot | jpinx-eeepc: huh? and that says about mixing - what? |
| 13:05.58 | jpinx-eeepc | 07:59 < riot> whoa.. no no no no no.. running unstable for 10 years now. |
| 13:06.01 | abrotman | are jonathan_ and jogla the same person ? |
| 13:06.10 | jogla | Ehh, sorry |
| 13:06.17 | jogla | I'm not, and i never did on this package |
| 13:06.21 | jogla | s/package/system |
| 13:06.29 | riot | jpinx-eeepc: can't follow you :) |
| 13:06.47 | riot | yay. Moovida installs :D |
| 13:06.53 | jpinx-eeepc | obviously not |
| 13:06.54 | abrotman | jogla: which package has usr/lib/perl/5.10/XSLoader.pm and which version is it? |
| 13:07.08 | riot | weee. and it works \o/ |
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| 13:08.04 | jogla | Is there a better way than dpkg -S to find it out? |
| 13:08.31 | jogla | perl-base: /usr/lib/perl/5.10.0/XSLoader.pm |
| 13:08.35 | jogla | ii perl-base 5.10.0-19lenny2 minimal Perl system |
| 13:08.37 | abrotman | you can use apt-file |
| 13:08.53 | jogla | ahh, thank you |
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| 13:10.43 | abrotman | jogla: i'd try to reinstall the associated purple packages .. and possibly the perl packages |
| 13:10.52 | jogla | Hmm |
| 13:11.21 | jogla | This system is only half a week old, i didn't experiment with it in any way, so it should all be normal, but i can do that of course |
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| 13:13.23 | jogla | abrotman: sudo apt-get --reinstall install libpurple0 libpurple-bin libpurple-dev perl-base, this way? |
| 13:13.49 | abrotman | i'd personally use aptitude |
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| 13:13.52 | Newbie16 | hi |
| 13:14.00 | Newbie16 | is anyone finding that debian's openoffice is very slow? |
| 13:14.11 | abrotman | when doing what? |
| 13:14.13 | Newbie16 | i tried openoffice on a fedora install and it was considerably faster |
| 13:14.28 | maligor | different version maybe? |
| 13:14.39 | Newbie16 | abrotman: just about everything, mainly when i right click it takes a long time for the menu to show up |
| 13:15.09 | Newbie16 | i've tried openoffice-kde and openoffice-gnome, both are slow |
| 13:15.35 | abrotman | which java are you using ? |
| 13:15.40 | jogla | Newbie16: I think they are using a quickstarter |
| 13:15.53 | jogla | like: openoffice.org-gtk - GTK+ Integration for OpenOffice.org (Widgets, Dialogs, Quickstarter) |
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| 13:17.25 | Newbie16 | java-6-openjdk |
| 13:17.25 | jogla | abrotman: I reinstalled it now with aptitude reinstall and the error remains. I checked if /usr/local/lib/perl contains any of those packages that would override the debian versions but that's not the case. |
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| 13:18.18 | Newbie16 | installing sun's java now |
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| 13:19.08 | jogla | http://nopaste.com/p/a98aQXG5j |
| 13:19.14 | abrotman | jogla: wait .. what's the error you get running pidgin? |
| 13:19.36 | jogla | I can run pidgin, i just can't load their perl module |
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| 13:19.46 | jogla | Can't load '/usr/lib/perl5/auto/Purple/Purple.so' for module Purple: /usr/lib/perl5/auto/Purple/Purple.so: undefined symbol: g_str_hash at /usr/lib/perl/5.10/XSLoader.pm line 64. |
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| 13:20.10 | jogla | Pidgin runs just fine, i hope i didn't confuse you |
| 13:20.30 | abrotman | jogla: so there is an error, but it's not critical? |
| 13:20.35 | jogla | right |
| 13:20.51 | jogla | pigin comes with a perl api for plugins |
| 13:21.32 | pav5088 | I'm looking at the squeeze bug here http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=427478 . I haven't applied many patches in my time, but patch -p0 < patchfile would work, yes? |
| 13:21.49 | pav5088 | I've compiled this patch, and it doesn't seem to work... |
| 13:21.56 | pav5088 | I've got a pastebin |
| 13:22.12 | Sia- | any idea why this doesn't work? http://paste.debian.net/48755/plain/48755 what is failed? |
| 13:22.19 | pav5088 | http://pastebin.com/d4157dc32 |
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| 13:22.51 | abrotman | jogla: i don't have a stable box near me, but on squeeze i don't see that string in either of those .pm files |
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| 13:23.11 | pav5088 | I'm just checking here before reporting my experience with this patch... Have I applied it correctly? I compiled using dpkg-buildpackage -b |
| 13:23.19 | jogla | abrotman: I think it should should be a c/c++ file containing it |
| 13:23.24 | silidan | hi, i installed nvidia drivers for my gtx260 after this guide: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Libraries and used the manual way for step 3. my xorg.conf is this: http://pastebin.com/d2960b9bd and the output of xorg.log is this: http://pastebin.com/d653960d0 . my problem is: 3d acceleration works but wine 3d games stopped working, and video output of videoplayers stoppedd working, how should my xorg.conf look like? (guess this |
| 13:23.43 | jogla | abrotman: The source of Purple.so |
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| 13:25.08 | rgr | silidan: that xorg is not complete |
| 13:25.45 | silidan | yes it is... thats the one i use |
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| 13:26.22 | rgr | ok it is. |
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| 13:26.28 | silidan | its the whole content of my xorg... |
| 13:26.33 | silidan | .conf |
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| 13:26.48 | rgr | which is not complete according to my browser. |
| 13:27.01 | silidan | oO? |
| 13:27.03 | rgr | the last line is a Section which is not closed. |
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| 13:27.17 | silidan | hm... strange the last line i see is closed... |
| 13:27.38 | rgr | could be w3m my "in emacs browser" but if so its the first time. What is the last line you see? |
| 13:27.41 | silidan | my last line is 47 EndSection |
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| 13:28.07 | abrotman | the xorg.conf is fine |
| 13:28.11 | jogla | abrotman: pidgin-2.4.3/libpurple/plugins/perl/common/Server.xs contains "g_str_hash", and BuddyList.xs too |
| 13:28.40 | rgr | strange. last line I see is Section "Monitor". |
| 13:28.47 | abrotman | jogla: i'd email the maintainer to see if he considers it a bug or not |
| 13:28.51 | silidan | well thats line 46 :) |
| 13:28.55 | jogla | Thank you |
| 13:29.02 | jogla | I'll do that |
| 13:29.23 | silidan | alright back to MY problem... any clues? |
| 13:29.39 | [Elvis] | hej guys, can someone tell me teh diffrenece in apache between sites-enabled and sites-available? |
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| 13:30.00 | rgr | I never used nvidia-xconfig. I always used nvidia-settings. |
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| 13:30.06 | azeem_ | [Elvis]: I'd say one is the enabled stuff and the other available stuff |
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| 13:30.27 | silidan | rgr, well i didnt use either of them |
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| 13:31.00 | [Elvis] | azeem_ that doesn't really make it more clear :p |
| 13:31.13 | azeem_ | [Elvis]: do you understand the meaning of "enabled" and "available"? |
| 13:31.29 | [Elvis] | enabled = on....available...is available.. |
| 13:31.30 | [Elvis] | ? |
| 13:31.31 | [Elvis] | :P |
| 13:31.35 | azeem_ | right |
| 13:31.40 | azeem_ | so what is your question? |
| 13:31.44 | [Elvis] | but are sites that are available also browsable? |
| 13:31.52 | azeem_ | no idea |
| 13:31.53 | [Elvis] | or only the enabled ones? |
| 13:32.18 | asg | [Elvis]: think of 'available' as 'no enabled' |
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| 13:32.24 | [Elvis] | ok so basically..it should be sites-enabled |
| 13:32.26 | [Elvis] | sites-disabled |
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| 13:32.38 | [Elvis] | why the hell would I want config files for sites being not available ? :P |
| 13:32.50 | azeem_ | I guess you put all sites into -available |
| 13:33.00 | azeem_ | and those which should be "live" additionally into -enabled |
| 13:33.00 | asg | [Elvis]: without getting into a semantic argument, they aren't disabled ... they are just not enabled and, as such, are available to be enabled. |
| 13:33.02 | azeem_ | but no idea |
| 13:33.11 | [Elvis] | hmm |
| 13:33.16 | [Elvis] | asg how do I enable them then? |
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| 13:33.31 | [Elvis] | by copy/pasting them into the other configuration file? |
| 13:33.35 | kf | a2ensite problably |
| 13:33.37 | [Elvis] | or is there some sort of program I haven't found yes.. |
| 13:33.39 | [Elvis] | ahhhh |
| 13:33.41 | kf | or something similar |
| 13:33.51 | Newbie16 | abrotman: using sun java 6 now, but right click menus are still slow, 5 to 8 seconds for the right click menu to show, all i have is the flowchart of the hello world program in openoffice draw :( |
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| 13:34.22 | abrotman | Newbie16: how slow is your box ? |
| 13:34.32 | Newbie16 | 2.8GHz X2, 8GB of ram |
| 13:34.33 | abrotman | Newbie16: alos, which version of debian? |
| 13:34.44 | Newbie16 | debian sid, openoffice 3.1.1 |
| 13:35.03 | abrotman | i'm on squeeze on this machine, works just fine here .. how did you install OO ? |
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| 13:35.10 | Newbie16 | from the repo |
| 13:35.14 | abrotman | and my machine is way way slower |
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| 13:35.17 | abrotman | yes .. which command? |
| 13:35.33 | Newbie16 | i installed them from synaptic |
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| 13:36.55 | Newbie16 | it starts up fast, but the menus are laggy |
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| 13:37.47 | Newbie16 | switching the qt theme didn't help |
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| 13:40.06 | Newbie16 | disabling window effects doesn't help |
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| 13:41.00 | paxcoder | ok, this is not funny anymore, where is testing? |
| 13:41.20 | Newbie16 | ... debian squeeze? |
| 13:41.28 | paxcoder | yes |
| 13:41.46 | Newbie16 | what are you trying to find? |
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| 13:42.20 | mreh | i still can't get to the bottom of my problem, the sound only seems to be working in some applications but not others |
| 13:42.26 | paxcoder | a CD or better yet, a DVD ISO |
| 13:42.41 | abrotman | they're linked from the debian-installer devel site |
| 13:42.44 | mreh | the one that does work is listed in lsof /dev/snd/* |
| 13:42.46 | Newbie16 | paxcoder: you need to netinstall |
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| 13:42.57 | paxcoder | Newbie16: is that news? |
| 13:42.58 | abrotman | Newbie16: tried to strace it or something like that ? |
| 13:43.06 | abrotman | paxcoder: they're linked from the debian-installer devel site |
| 13:43.15 | paxcoder | i'm not sure what that means |
| 13:43.25 | abrotman | then maybe you shouldn't be installing testing |
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| 13:43.44 | silidan1 | brb bb |
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| 13:44.03 | Newbie16 | abrotman: fixed, i had to delete my .openoffice and .openoffice2 folders |
| 13:44.06 | Sia- | what is the failed package her ? ./configure |
| 13:44.06 | Sia- | checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c |
| 13:44.06 | Sia- | checking whether build environment is sane... yes |
| 13:44.06 | Sia- | checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p |
| 13:44.06 | Sia- | checking for gawk... no |
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| 13:44.13 | abrotman | Newbie16: is that really "fixed" ? |
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| 13:44.21 | Sia- | checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out |
| 13:44.23 | Sia- | checking whether the C compiler works... yes |
| 13:44.24 | abrotman | Newbie16: i guess if it's good enough for you? |
| 13:44.25 | Sia- | checking whether we are cross compiling... no |
| 13:44.27 | Sia- | checking for suffix of executables... |
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| 13:44.29 | Sia- | checking for suffix of object files... o |
| 13:44.29 | asg | Sia-: stop it |
| 13:44.31 | Sia- | checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes |
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| 13:44.33 | Newbie16 | abrotman: yea, it could have been a bad config from an old version |
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| 13:44.53 | abrotman | Sia-: please use paste.debian.net |
| 13:45.02 | [Elvis] | is there a manual somewhere about setting up apache2 with ssl for debian |
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| 13:45.32 | paxcoder | abrotman: I can't say I see your logic. But http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ only links to netinstalls. |
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| 13:45.37 | Newbie16 | paxcoder: there are no full cds of debian's testing version, you need to install from a small installer which connects to debian's repos and downloads the packages you've selected |
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| 13:45.50 | abrotman | paxcoder: so use that .. what's the problem? |
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| 13:46.18 | paxcoder | Weren't there iso's before? And why all the empty dirs? |
| 13:46.39 | Newbie16 | yes of the stable version or the netinstall isos |
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| 13:46.42 | paxcoder | abrotman: can't. I'll tell my friend to upgrade stable. |
| 13:46.44 | abrotman | paxcoder: usually closer to release .. no reason to build full ISOs now |
| 13:46.56 | paxcoder | No reason? |
| 13:47.00 | abrotman | Sia-: what are you trying to compile |
| 13:47.16 | paxcoder | tbh, imo stable is pretty useless for desktop. |
| 13:47.18 | abrotman | paxcoder: why the hell would they make a full DVD set .. they'll be out of date by the afternoon |
| 13:47.27 | Sia- | srry, i wnat to paste the pastebin link http://paste.debian.net/48768/ but the f*** Ctrl+P do it |
| 13:47.34 | paxcoder | abrotman: I guess... |
| 13:47.37 | abrotman | anyone that is trying to use testing should know that .. and if they can't realize that, they should probably use ubuntu |
| 13:47.39 | paxcoder | ok, thanks. |
| 13:47.49 | Sia- | abrotman, some menu-cache from LXDE panel |
| 13:47.53 | wald0 | i can use git as a filesystem or something like that ? |
| 13:47.55 | abrotman | Sia-: on lenny? |
| 13:47.59 | paxcoder | abrotman: I love you too, abrotman, I love you too. |
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| 13:48.16 | Sia- | abrotman, on squeeze |
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| 13:49.00 | abrotman | Sia-: it's telling you that there's an error in the configure script |
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| 13:49.25 | marcty | running deb currently as server |
| 13:49.29 | marcty | but it was primarly a firewall. |
| 13:49.33 | marcty | i have since replaced with an asa5505. |
| 13:49.38 | marcty | o now i am thinking of turning it into a linux desktop. |
| 13:49.45 | Sia- | yes, that is mean the script is failed not some tools in my configuration |
| 13:49.48 | marcty | so with that said why ubuntu over mepis? |
| 13:50.11 | asg | marcty: ask #ubuntu |
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| 13:52.33 | pav5088 | I need some help confirming that I've found a problem with a supplied patch in a Debian bug report. The patch is in this bugreport which is supposed to fix mknbi for the AMD64 architecture : http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=427478 . I applied the patch with 'patch -p0 patchtext.file' and got the following failed compilation after doing a dpkg-buildpackage -b : http://paste.debian.net/48768/ . |
| 13:52.54 | pav5088 | Does what I've done look correct? |
| 13:53.35 | pav5088 | oops ... forgot < in my patch command... but I did this in reality |
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| 13:53.49 | cafaro | I made a VG with a raid0 device, now I manually have to add partitions, and I'm not sure what partions and how big? (/, /swap...). The total capacity of my raid is ~160GB. |
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| 13:54.19 | Sia- | what is happen with debian testing? i can't use xkboption in xorg.conf to switch keyboard layout? |
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| 13:56.06 | Sia- | i need this option again, it worked fine under lenny http://www.xfree86.org/current/XKB-Config2.html |
| 13:56.15 | Sia- | but no more under squeeze |
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| 13:58.16 | abrotman | Sia-: uhm .. Debian doesn't use XFree86 |
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| 14:05.06 | silidan | how can i make sure that the dri and dri2 modules dont get loaded per default in debian sid? |
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| 14:07.57 | Newbie16 | silidan: blacklist them |
| 14:08.02 | Sia- | abrotman, but i use the same configuration under lenny |
| 14:08.07 | Sia- | worked fine |
| 14:08.18 | Newbie16 | silidan: but usually you just have to remove them from xorg.conf |
| 14:08.28 | abrotman | so? it's still not using XFree .. look at xorg.conf for documentation |
| 14:08.38 | abrotman | erm .. http://www.x.org/ |
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| 14:08.48 | DynamicPink | I have a program that isn't installing under Wine. It is a "Learning German" language CD. Wine determines that I have enough space, but the installer window disappears when I click Next. |
| 14:09.13 | silidan | Newbie16: yea but they are not listed in xorg.conf |
| 14:09.25 | DynamicPink | Do you have to run Wine as root? |
| 14:09.52 | Newbie16 | silidan: well they're only loaded if they are needed, are you sure they aren't needed? |
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| 14:10.52 | silidan | im not sure, but the debian way nvidia driver install tutoral says they should not be loaded at least the dri that is... http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Libraries i followed that one... |
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| 14:12.50 | Newbie16 | silidan: its talking about the entries in xorg.conf |
| 14:13.17 | silidan | yea,but my xorg.log says dri and dri2 gets loaded... |
| 14:13.30 | Newbie16 | does the system work? |
| 14:13.42 | silidan | and jedi academy stopped working with wine... |
| 14:14.01 | Newbie16 | silidan: i have an nvidia card and i have dri2 loading |
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| 14:14.05 | [Elvis] | hej guys, I'm getting the following error: http://pastebin.com/m728ff3ef ...someone here who can help me |
| 14:15.06 | abrotman | seems obvious |
| 14:15.07 | silidan | i get the error: GLW_StartOpenGL() - could not load OpenGL subsystem but Extrem,e Tuxracer is workign fine... so hard ware acceleration is working |
| 14:15.44 | silidan | or do i have to reinstall wine games after installing another graphics driver? |
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| 14:16.19 | silidan | Newbie16: and you dont have problems playing 3d games with wine? |
| 14:16.31 | Newbie16 | i don't use wine |
| 14:16.46 | Newbie16 | sounds like a path issue |
| 14:17.00 | silidan | ah ok, the thing is wine and jedi academy worked fine, till i installed the nvidia drivers... |
| 14:17.14 | Newbie16 | variable or library |
| 14:17.22 | silidan | Newbie16: hm... where can i start? |
| 14:17.49 | Newbie16 | google searching, can't be more specific than that |
| 14:18.10 | silidan | ok |
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| 14:23.16 | senorpedro | hi folks |
| 14:23.32 | Sia- | any option to change/switch keyboard layout without GUI tool? |
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| 14:24.50 | senorpedro | i'm trying to repair a corrupt vfat file system on a usb stick with "fsck.vfat -av /dev/sdd1", but at a certain point fsck seems to hang (meaning no output on the console) but it still uses lots of cpu |
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| 14:25.05 | senorpedro | is that normal fsck behaviour? how long can this last? |
| 14:25.10 | senorpedro | its a 4gb usb stick |
| 14:26.06 | asg | senorpedro: do you see I/O errors in /var/log/syslog while fscking the stick? |
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| 14:27.38 | senorpedro | asg, nope |
| 14:28.28 | asg | senorpedro: may be worth running badblocks on it to make sure there aren't any bad blocks. Otherwise, I can't see that you should'nt be able to fsck the filesystem. |
| 14:29.00 | senorpedro | asg, thx for the tipp, i try badblocks |
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| 14:35.10 | senorpedro | asg, badblocks didnt find anything... |
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| 14:36.20 | asg | senorpedro: how long did you let the fsck process run previously? |
| 14:37.49 | senorpedro | approx. 1 hour |
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| 14:39.23 | asg | senorpedro: it should have completed by then but I don't know how long it takes to fsck a 4G usb stick from experience. Maybe others here do. |
| 14:40.14 | wald0 | what is the best reliable filesystem for shutdowns or in order to avoid data corruptions ? |
| 14:40.39 | wald0 | is there not any with features like the "checksum" one of btrfs ? |
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| 14:40.55 | asg | wald0: ext3 is probably the most reliable fs in this case |
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| 14:58.14 | knao | where can I download Testing/Squeeze? this is empty: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 14:58.49 | asg | knao: use a netinstall |
| 14:58.53 | abrotman | knao: check the page for the development installer |
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| 14:59.16 | knao | asg: but netinstall is only for stable. isn't it? |
| 14:59.42 | abrotman | no |
| 14:59.53 | techouse | you can select what preos you want |
| 14:59.57 | techouse | repos* |
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| 15:00.23 | lancelot_of | hallo everybody |
| 15:00.38 | knao | techouse: during install? I've never seen this option there |
| 15:00.39 | lancelot_of | if i play flv videos with totem all works good, but if i play them with xine i can only see them, but not listen to, 'cause there's an horrible background feedback |
| 15:00.45 | lancelot_of | do i miss any lib? |
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| 15:01.16 | wald0 | asg: EXT3 more than JFS ? ppl has tell me that JFS is better for forced shutdowns, but i have just got some files corrupted in a jfs one :/ |
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| 15:01.38 | rahsputin | hello, i justed installed Lenny and have noticed that i have to configure xorg.conf manually, is there a workaround (like the old # dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ) ? |
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| 15:02.59 | wald0 | it is possible to make a "verification of the checksum of all the files on the filesystem" in order to know if i have any corrupted file ? |
| 15:02.59 | abrotman | rahsputin: why do you "have to" ? |
| 15:03.08 | techouse | rahsputin: xorg.conf is empty by default, if you mean that |
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| 15:05.08 | spldart | Heh.. similar problem. I really need to manually configure Lenny xorg on this machine too. it doesn't detect the monitor correctly. Gnome's built in screen resolution adjustment app doesn't even know what modes are available on this monitor. I have to start nvidia-settings every boot and set it there. |
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| 15:05.25 | TrueDD | Howdy |
| 15:06.31 | bzed | spldart: apt-get install read-edid; then run get-edid | parse-edid |
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| 15:06.40 | bzed | spldart: this should give you a nice xorg.conf snipped to use |
| 15:06.53 | spldart | orly? That easy? |
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| 15:07.45 | spldart | oooOOOoo very nice |
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| 15:07.56 | techouse | knao: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.3/i386/iso-cd/debian-503-i386-netinst.iso |
| 15:07.59 | techouse | knao: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.3/amd64/iso-cd/debian-503-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 15:08.29 | techouse | damn it...wrong links |
| 15:08.30 | techouse | :P |
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| 15:10.29 | techouse | knao: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso ; http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 15:10.35 | mbruins | hi, when i start X as root my keyboard works and i can type. but when i start X as normal user i cant typ with my keyboard in browser.. any sugestion? |
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| 15:11.25 | spldart | There we go. When next I boot this machine i |
| 15:11.36 | spldart | ll either have a good resolution/refresh by default |
| 15:11.45 | spldart | or I'll be hunting through dmesg LOL |
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| 15:12.39 | knao | techouse: thank you, but first one is stable, and the second one is old (I've downloaded that one, and had some problem with it) |
| 15:12.48 | knao | techouse: but I'll try again with stablem and try to set another repositories. thank you very much for your help |
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| 15:13.46 | abrotman | knao: the second one is 'daily' |
| 15:13.46 | techouse | knao: i haven't used netinstall in a long while, since i need wpasupplicant for my internet connection and have to install debian from cd1 in order to set the internet shit :P |
| 15:14.02 | techouse | knao: yea, the second one is sid, i think |
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| 15:14.35 | techouse | oh, no it's squeeze :) my mistake |
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| 15:15.19 | knao | abrotman: oh, you are right, so first time I searched, I found something else probably.. great |
| 15:15.46 | abrotman | granted the daily may not work on any given day, but i'm sure you iknow that |
| 15:15.49 | techouse | knao: here's the page with all the links: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 15:16.17 | knao | techouse: I was wrong, as I said, I don't know, where I was searching before, but my one was old, the link you posted is correct, thank you |
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| 15:16.54 | techouse | bookmark that link above in del.icio.us or something :) |
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| 15:18.24 | Kobaz | how would i go about rate-limiting apt-get downloads |
| 15:18.34 | Kobaz | i remmeber there's some userspace program that can rate limit anything |
| 15:18.46 | FoxM | Hi there. I am using squeeze and hava an ATI Radeon X300 card, which has been dropped from the ati driver, so it is an old card. I want to keep the 3D capabilities of the card, but none of the opensource drivers, works. I then tried to download the old binary that supports the card (9.3) from ATI and build the package for squeeze, but it cannot create the package because there is no libstdc++5 in squeeze, only libstdc++6. Do you have any ideas of |
| 15:18.46 | FoxM | how can I install the binary driver? (The non-free package that comes with squeeze does not support the card either) |
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| 15:20.39 | abrotman | the X300 shuld have 3d support with the radeon driver |
| 15:21.45 | FoxM | abrotman: Hi. Thanks for the answer... yes it SHOULD.... but the fact is that when I open KDE, and try to open the KDE Menu, it just closes the X Server and restarts it |
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| 15:22.05 | abrotman | i don't see how the two are related ... |
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| 15:22.52 | FoxM | abrotman: It is because OpenGL compositing was enabled... so it tries to use the 3D capabilities of the card... and... poof... the X server dies... |
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| 15:23.03 | abrotman | so check your Xorg.0.log |
| 15:23.09 | blendmaster1024 | abrotman, FoxM, the kde4 menu uses uite a bit of accell, even without compositing |
| 15:23.22 | FoxM | abrotman: ..... mmmm... good idea... hahaha ROTFL |
| 15:25.18 | abrotman | FoxM: or try another WM to make sure |
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| 15:27.08 | FoxM | abrotman: good idea too... I have installed only KDE, but will install a lightweight WM. Thanks! |
| 15:27.10 | dauerbaustelle | hi guys, can anybody tell which ARM version I need to install debian on the HTC Hero? |
| 15:28.10 | abrotman | dauerbaustelle: try #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net |
| 15:28.16 | dauerbaustelle | oh, thx |
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| 15:38.14 | orak3l | with debian kernel 2.6.30-2-amd64 there are automatically created devicenodes in dev like /dev/usbdev1.1_ep00 . with my custom kernel these device nodes are missing. usb is working fine. have i forgotten something in kernel config? |
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| 15:42.32 | reber | hi all. Can anyone do this please : dpkg --get-selections |grep font and paste it in some pastebin please ? (squeeze prefered) |
| 15:43.38 | reber | (bare install prefered too) |
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| 15:44.59 | orak3l | reber, http://nopaste.debianforum.de/28832 |
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| 15:45.35 | Life`Is`Peachy | anyone |
| 15:45.49 | Life`Is`Peachy | this one too /sbin/ldconfig.real: /usr/lib/libjspTru64Alpha.so is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start. |
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| 15:48.45 | Sergio` | How can I change the color of a specific filename? I'm trying to do it with dircolors but it seems to only work with extensions. |
| 15:49.12 | azeem_ | Sergio`: patch ls? |
| 15:49.25 | Sergio` | I can't code. |
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| 15:52.59 | peterrooney | Sergio`: dircolors |
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| 15:53.29 | ymorin | hi, debian/watch question for you: if the developer create two branch (1.99 = for developper, 1.20 = current), is there a way to check for the current only? |
| 15:54.29 | Sergio` | peterrooney: I tried ZZ.pdf=00;33 and doesn't accept even with quotes but .pdf=00;33 already works. |
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| 15:55.22 | peterrooney | Sergio`: sorry, man 5 dir_colors |
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| 15:57.50 | Sergio` | peterrooney: well, I read. I don't think it tells. |
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| 15:59.34 | peterrooney | Sergio`: it may not be possible. |
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| 16:00.02 | Sergio` | I'm starting to think the same. Maybe it's a good time for a feature request. |
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| 16:00.41 | peterrooney | From the man page: Note that the period is included in the extension, which makes it impossible to specify an extension not starting with a period, such as ~ for emacs backup files. |
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| 16:07.53 | d1b | why not ask in bash ? |
| 16:07.59 | d1b | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.54 | et | it's not a bash thing ;) |
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| 16:13.30 | ymorin | et: bash.org thing? |
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| 16:16.10 | anf6 | does the xen kernel in lenny include ext4 support? |
| 16:16.15 | anf6 | the dom0 kernel |
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| 16:18.33 | abrotman | anf6: it would have ext4_dev .. so probably not what your'e looking for |
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| 16:19.29 | anf6 | hmm no :\ thanks for the info, guess I'll have to copy everything onto a usb drive and recreate my lvm |
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| 16:46.11 | okfs | Are there any spesific administrative tasks related to the software mysql ? |
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| 16:47.14 | azeem_ | okfs: I guess that largely depends on how you're using it |
| 16:48.21 | okfs | any example of descibtion? |
| 16:49.04 | okfs | for an administrativ taskt |
| 16:49.04 | blm | okfs: the default setup binds to your local interface only and you need to set a password for the admin user. then you are ready to go |
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| 16:49.23 | blm | okfs: there is countless websites about mysql administration |
| 16:49.47 | wildc4rd | evening all |
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| 16:50.15 | jonny66 | Hi i need some help with apt: i get the following error: Setting up udev (146-5) ... |
| 16:50.15 | jonny66 | error getting signalfd |
| 16:50.16 | jonny66 | Cannot start udevd. (rc=5) |
| 16:50.16 | jonny66 | dpkg: error processing udev (--configure): |
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| 16:50.16 | dpkg | jonny66: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
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| 16:50.38 | abrotman | !paste |
| 16:50.38 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>. |
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| 16:51.15 | jonny66 | Hi i need some help with apt: i get the following error: Setting up udev (146-5) ...error getting signalfd - Cannot start udevd. (rc=5) - dpkg: error processing udev (--configure): |
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| 16:51.57 | blm | jonny66: what debian version, what were you doing and what is the full command output (use paste) |
| 16:51.59 | abrotman | !bts |
| 16:52.00 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
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| 16:56.33 | blm | by the way, are the security updates for etch dropped already? |
| 16:56.41 | azeem_ | no |
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| 16:57.12 | blm | so a poor guy still has to patch 2.6.18 |
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| 17:02.29 | Snoopy | i read something about Debian ports doing something with Debian GNU/FreeBSD will there be an ISO cd or dvd avaible ? |
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| 17:03.36 | abrotman | Snoopy: one owuld imagine so, if they don't already have one |
| 17:03.48 | mischief | Snoopy, http://d-i.debian.org/ check the kfreebsd folder |
| 17:03.48 | markybob | Snoopy, http://glibc-bsd.alioth.debian.org/install-cd/ |
| 17:04.07 | mischief | markybob, those are old i believe |
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| 17:04.24 | Snoopy | cool! thanks markybob :) |
| 17:04.51 | Snoopy | not too old |
| 17:04.53 | Snoopy | 29 july 2009 |
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| 17:05.34 | Snoopy | okies, going to give it a spin in my extra disk partition, will be back if it is sucessful on this hardware |
| 17:06.06 | mischief | d-i has more recent images >.< |
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| 17:08.00 | mischief | is it safe to remove xmail from my system? |
| 17:08.13 | azeem_ | why do you want to? |
| 17:08.20 | azeem_ | some scripts my rely on it, dunno |
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| 17:08.25 | _Trinity_ | hey |
| 17:08.42 | _Trinity_ | has anyone fooled aroun with mic recordings and audacity on debian? |
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| 17:09.53 | _Trinity_ | guess not |
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| 17:14.19 | blm | trinity asked if neo was messing with her computer? |
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| 17:14.54 | krauser | Hi, how do i select Timer Frequency between 300 and 1000 while compiling kernel ? |
| 17:15.12 | blm | krauser: why do you want to mess with that? the default is safest |
| 17:15.38 | krauser | blm: looking for better desktop performance (and i like testing things doing weird things) |
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| 17:16.12 | krauser | make menuconfig gives 4 options 100 250 300 and 1000 i need say 500 or 600 how do get those ? |
| 17:16.41 | blm | krauser: if you are looking for a better desktop performance and feel like messing your system up by tests that fail, then you can patch your kernel source with BFS (kolivas.org) |
| 17:16.52 | blm | but changing the timer frequency has 0 benefit |
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| 17:17.12 | krauser | blm: i have compiled in teh past and have seen the difference its better at 1000 |
| 17:17.38 | blm | krauser: 1000 is the default as far as i know |
| 17:18.01 | sepult | CONFIG_HZ_100=y |
| 17:18.01 | sepult | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:18.05 | sepult | ups |
| 17:18.17 | sepult | CONFIG_HZ_1000=y |
| 17:18.30 | krauser | but how do i set it in betweeen 300 to 1000 in make menuconfig |
| 17:18.32 | kanzure | libGL.so.1.2 (from libgl1-mesa-glx) segfaults. this didn't happen in the past, and due to some careless packages that i installed, or possibly xorg.conf changes, it now segfaults. how do i reinstall this without removing all my GL-dependent packages? |
| 17:18.34 | krauser | or is there a file i can edit ? |
| 17:18.35 | blm | yeah |
| 17:18.36 | sepult | in your .config in your kernel |
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| 17:18.45 | errordeveloper | hi |
| 17:18.54 | blm | krauser: are you advice resistent? |
| 17:19.08 | errordeveloper | i'm about to try replacing the opensuse-11.1 install with debian (5.0.3) |
| 17:19.10 | krauser | blm: i m just testing different settings thats all |
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| 17:19.17 | krauser | blm: just trying to learn |
| 17:19.18 | blm | and i dont help people to do silly things |
| 17:19.22 | errordeveloper | i downloaded the netinst cd |
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| 17:19.37 | errordeveloper | i doesn't seem to have the driver for the NIC |
| 17:19.49 | errordeveloper | which is Marvell GB NIC |
| 17:19.51 | krauser | blm: ok but u can atleast tell where to feed the setting for 500 hz (editing .config file ? |
| 17:20.03 | azeem | krauser: probably you'd need to change the code directly |
| 17:20.05 | errordeveloper | driver sky2 apparently is not present |
| 17:20.13 | krauser | azeem: how ? |
| 17:20.22 | errordeveloper | will it work with install DVD vol 1? |
| 17:20.23 | azeem | by changing it? |
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| 17:20.34 | krauser | azeem: :| i mean which file do i edit |
| 17:20.45 | azeem | krauser: I don't know |
| 17:20.55 | azeem | and I am not going to dig for you |
| 17:21.00 | krauser | ok i will try and find it myself |
| 17:21.13 | cahoot | krauser: if you don't know how to navigate menuconfig ... |
| 17:21.17 | krauser | either its .config or that file param.h i guess |
| 17:21.20 | azeem | cahoot: he knows |
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| 17:21.26 | azeem | 19:16 < krauser> make menuconfig gives 4 options 100 250 300 and 1000 i need say 500 or 600 how do get those ? |
| 17:21.27 | blm | krauser: just for your info: (and from now on you have been warned) what you change there can affect your system in such a way that you end up with a corrupt disk |
| 17:21.54 | krauser | blm: i appreciate ur concerns |
| 17:21.59 | sepult | krauser: normally if it's not shown then it's not in the kernel |
| 17:22.09 | sepult | krauser: get a recent kernel then |
| 17:22.28 | azeem | what is not shown? |
| 17:22.42 | krauser | sepult: I am trying to set a value in BETWEEN 300 and 1000 which means its OBVIOUSLY possible |
| 17:22.43 | blm | i think he means the option to select that value in menuconfig |
| 17:22.43 | sepult | krauser: the recent ones show additionally 500, 100, 1500, 2000 HZ |
| 17:22.44 | errordeveloper | oh ..may be a CD-1 could work actually ..i don't need 4Gig of packages ..hey |
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| 17:23.08 | krauser | sepult: 2.6.26.8 rt patch 16 |
| 17:23.28 | blm | the "rt" patch does at least good things :) |
| 17:23.37 | krauser | blm: hehe |
| 17:23.39 | blm | but the timer frequency does not |
| 17:24.10 | sepult | krauser: it's hardcoded i think, and even if you change it, i |
| 17:24.10 | sepult | don't know if it would have any effect |
| 17:24.11 | krauser | blm: blm please can u tell wether manually putting HZ value in param.h will do the trick of 400 hz or say 500 hz ? |
| 17:24.16 | blm | krauser: and since you like to take risks: have a look at Con Kolivas' new BFS patch |
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| 17:24.33 | krauser | blm: BFS is a scheduler ? |
| 17:24.36 | blm | yes |
| 17:24.48 | krauser | how does it work ? can pass a website link |
| 17:24.56 | azeem | krauser: google? |
| 17:25.07 | azeem | please do some research on your own first |
| 17:25.17 | krauser | azeem: my opera browser is loaded with 50 atbs i cant open 1 more :P |
| 17:25.33 | azeem | *shrug* |
| 17:25.37 | azeem | then just wait till tomorrow |
| 17:25.40 | blm | its experimental, hang on |
| 17:26.11 | krauser | azeem: did u seriously didnt get my sarcasm there ? |
| 17:26.21 | jpinx-eeepc | krauser: then close a few :p |
| 17:26.25 | blm | krauser: http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/ |
| 17:27.09 | krauser | blm: roger that |
| 17:27.37 | blm | but only experiment with that when you put your timer frequency back to 1000 |
| 17:27.55 | azeem | oh my |
| 17:27.58 | krauser | blm: ok |
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| 17:28.24 | azeem | or fix BFS to run with arbitrary timer frequencies |
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| 17:28.55 | blm | krauser: also of interest: RTFAQ ; http://kernel.kolivas.org ; wiki:http://ck.wikia.com |
| 17:29.20 | krauser | blm: ok lemme check them |
| 17:29.51 | krauser | its discontinued as of 2.6.22 :( |
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| 17:33.53 | sanmarcos | !test |
| 17:33.53 | dpkg | epic test fail |
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| 17:43.52 | jeff_fox | hello |
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| 17:44.07 | jeff_fox | i got a question about debian |
| 17:44.13 | jeff_fox | can anyone help me? |
| 17:44.26 | abrotman | just ask |
| 17:44.51 | jeff_fox | abrotman stop sending me picture of your dog penis |
| 17:45.03 | jelly-home | someone's in for a kban |
| 17:45.04 | jeff_fox | i know you like to take it in the ass |
| 17:45.13 | jeff_fox | jelly-home the faggot |
| 17:45.19 | jeff_fox | you like to suck horse penis |
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| 17:45.34 | jelly-home | obviously not a polite native .ch |
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| 17:48.40 | krauser | Cons - Signficant increase in kernel system overhead decreasing throughput. what is overhead and throughput ? |
| 17:49.21 | jelly-home | krauser: why are you even looking at scheduler tunables? |
| 17:49.47 | krauser | jelly-home: just out of curiosity |
| 17:49.59 | jelly-home | ah |
| 17:50.02 | krauser | i wanted to know what the 2 terms overhead and thoughput mean |
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| 17:50.11 | krauser | jelly-home: can you explain it to me ? |
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| 17:50.20 | jelly-home | wikipedia is your friend, krauser |
| 17:50.54 | krauser | ok |
| 17:51.20 | jelly-home | this is not really the best channel to explain basic compsci terminology |
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| 17:52.00 | dvs | krauser: it depends what overhead and throughput is refering to. |
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| 17:52.10 | sanmarcos | !test |
| 17:52.10 | dpkg | epic test fail |
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| 17:53.13 | paxcoder | krauser: overhead is time between switching between processes (which how you do multitasking). So overhead is bad because it slows down things. |
| 17:53.33 | krauser_ | what does throughput and overhead mean when dealing with timer frequencies ? |
| 17:53.44 | krauser_ | ohhhh ok |
| 17:53.46 | paxcoder | Overhead is the time kernel spends doing its stuff instead letting programs do their own. |
| 17:54.08 | krauser_ | paxcoder: greater the overhead badder it is |
| 17:54.16 | paxcoder | :-) yes. |
| 17:54.20 | krauser_ | paxcoder: and how is it related to timer frequency higher means greater overhead ? |
| 17:55.02 | paxcoder | I don't know. I'd have to take a look at whatever you're reading. |
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| 17:55.33 | krauser_ | and what is throughput ? |
| 17:55.42 | krauser_ | http://kerneltrap.org/node/1766 i was reading this |
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| 17:56.17 | abrotman | no really .. it's offtopic |
| 17:56.23 | pngwn | heh |
| 17:56.45 | jelly-home | it's not as if anytihng else is going on at the moment |
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| 17:57.18 | paxcoder | krauser_: //join #debian-offtopic |
| 17:57.21 | blm | abrotman: why is kernel tuning off-topic when people use debian? |
| 17:57.28 | pngwn | !paxcoder++ |
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| 17:58.10 | abrotman | t' make it okay |
| 17:58.17 | jelly-home | blm: a) this isn't about kernel tuning, it's about terminology b) it's neither debian specific nor pertaining to any issue the user is having |
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| 17:58.53 | blm | strange way of looking at it |
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| 17:59.54 | abrotman | appacn't type ... |
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| 18:00.27 | SPF | hmm, why does the debian 5.03 netinst image no RTL8111/8168B realtek driver? |
| 18:00.38 | SPF | *has |
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| 18:03.02 | SPF | on boot, the RTL8111 is not being detected. So is it present in the netinst of debian 5.03? |
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| 18:04.48 | sepult | why is my MACHTYPE=i486-linux-gnu ??? |
| 18:05.01 | azeem | why not? |
| 18:05.06 | jelly-home | sepult: what else would it be? |
| 18:05.14 | abrotman | because that's what it is |
| 18:05.21 | sepult | i686-linux-gnu ? |
| 18:05.40 | jelly-home | sepult: then debian would be incompatible with certain old hardware |
| 18:05.54 | hildebrandus | sepult: usually default kernel and march is 486. you could choose others also. |
| 18:06.12 | sepult | oh ok i thought it would be just the same as the kernel |
| 18:06.37 | sepult | my kernel is a i686 that's why i ask |
| 18:06.37 | sepult | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:07.06 | chellomere | sepult, kernel and userspace do not need to match 100% |
| 18:07.20 | sepult | ok then no problem |
| 18:07.29 | sepult | thanks all |
| 18:07.29 | chellomere | sepult, you're 686 kernel is compatible with a 486 userspace |
| 18:07.32 | chellomere | *your |
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| 18:08.04 | eilgin | hi! |
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| 18:08.26 | eilgin | how can i switch between window in irssi ? |
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| 18:09.16 | pngwn | eilgin, man irssi |
| 18:09.20 | chellomere | eilgin, I have a faint memory that it is alt-1, alt-2 etc |
| 18:09.25 | eilgin | i already done that |
| 18:09.26 | sepult | eilgin: /window 1 2 etc... |
| 18:09.28 | DexterF | hi |
| 18:09.35 | eilgin | it says, Meta+1,2... |
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| 18:10.06 | DexterF | I'd like to replace my existing mplayer with an svn checkout, I'd like to create a deb but don't know where to start. pointers? |
| 18:10.08 | pngwn | eilgin, /usr/share/doc/irssi* ? |
| 18:10.11 | sepult | eilgin: /window next or /window up down if you split windows |
| 18:11.14 | jelly-home | DexterF: the build in dmm isn't fresh enough for your purposes? |
| 18:11.27 | jelly-home | judd: versions mplayer |
| 18:11.28 | judd | jelly-home: mplayer -- etch: 1.0~rc1-12etch5 etch-security: 1.0~rc1-12etch7 lenny: 1.0~rc2-17+lenny3 sid: 1.0~rc3+svn20090405-1 squeeze: 1.0~rc3+svn20090405-1 etch-multimedia: 1:1.0-rc1svn20070225-0.3etch1 lenny-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20080706-0.1lenny1 squeeze-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20090906-0.1 sid-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20091001-0.1 |
| 18:11.31 | chellomere | eilgin, meta is alt (usually) |
| 18:11.47 | eilgin | yep, i know |
| 18:11.53 | blm | when neither lshw nor dmidecode displays information about the ram modules, then is that problem of a too old bios version? |
| 18:11.57 | DexterF | jelly-home: no |
| 18:11.59 | eilgin | maybe, it's because i'm in screen ? |
| 18:12.02 | jelly-home | DexterF: some sort of a start: /msg dpkg ssb |
| 18:12.39 | DexterF | jelly-home: I don't know if the src in sid has vdpau patches |
| 18:12.49 | chellomere | eilgin, some terminal emulators catch alt-n by default, notably vte-based ones; you'd have to disable that |
| 18:13.00 | DexterF | (that's for pawning off load to the gpu for 264 decode) |
| 18:13.01 | jelly-home | DexterF: have you looked at its changelog? |
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| 18:14.23 | pclark | Hi guys, I want to throw you a question about encryption. I following one of the numerous tutorials on the net about encrypting the hdd. It is recommended writing random data to enhance protection against attacks, either using "badblocks -c 10240 -s -w -t random -v /dev/XXX" or "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/XXX" for the super-paranoids. What I chose to do is the second option, but I'd like to check my hdd for badblocks as well.... so would I det |
| 18:14.23 | pclark | work done by dd if I run the badblocks command above afterwards? |
| 18:14.30 | jelly-home | DexterF: Suggests: [...] nvidia-libvdpau1 is probably there for a reason |
| 18:15.40 | DexterF | jelly-home: bah, I'm out anyway - needs nvidia 180 driver |
| 18:15.45 | DexterF | grumbles |
| 18:16.52 | DexterF | why is there no repository that has packages that change so fast you can't really wait for a new distro all the time? |
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| 18:17.08 | DexterF | I'm stuck with 173 till unstable gets stable |
| 18:17.13 | jelly-home | !volatile |
| 18:17.13 | dpkg | from memory, volatile is a project that aims at keeping the <stable> and <oldstable> distributions up to date for fast moving packages such as virus scanners, spam scanners and firmware downloaders. http://www.debian.org/volatile/ An example line for your lenny sources.list is: deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free See also <volatile mirrors>. |
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| 18:17.18 | jelly-home | !bpo |
| 18:17.18 | dpkg | backports.org is an unofficial repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions . A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update. See also <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents>. |
| 18:17.28 | jelly-home | DexterF: ^^ |
| 18:17.48 | jelly-home | or, roll your own backport |
| 18:18.10 | jelly-home | it's what you set up to do with mplayer anyway, isn't it |
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| 18:19.02 | DexterF | jelly-home: mplayer is one thing. fumbling a binary driver into an earlier distro sounds trickier |
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| 18:20.20 | jelly-home | DexterF: a backport is a backport is a? ... _if_ the driver wants to run on that old an xorg release |
| 18:20.26 | DexterF | jelly-home: and.. how do I browse the volatilre repos? |
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| 18:20.48 | DexterF | *volatile |
| 18:21.15 | DexterF | I don't wanna add the entire repository, just search for that package and dload manually |
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| 18:27.11 | jelly-home | Dominian: volatile is used for things like antivirus databases, it won't have your non-free driver. I just used it to answer the more generic <DexterF> why is there no repository that has packages that change so fast you can't really wait for a new distro all the time? |
| 18:27.30 | jelly-home | judd: versions nvidia-driver |
| 18:27.30 | judd | jelly-home: nvidia-driver -- |
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| 18:28.09 | jelly-home | judd: versions nvidia-glx |
| 18:28.09 | judd | jelly-home: nvidia-glx -- etch/non-free: 1.0.8776-4 lenny/non-free: 173.14.09-5 squeeze/non-free: 173.14.09-5 sid/non-free: 185.18.36-2 |
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| 18:28.54 | jelly-home | judd: versions nvidia-libvdpau1 |
| 18:28.55 | judd | jelly-home: nvidia-libvdpau1 -- sid/non-free: 185.18.36-2 |
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| 18:29.25 | blizzkid | lo all. how can I execute a script that runs notify-send on host2 from host1 if host1 (Ubuntu server) has no X? |
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| 18:30.07 | jelly-home | blizzkid: use ssh. |
| 18:30.24 | blizzkid | jelly-home: I know that, but both "ssh user@host2 script" and ssh -X user@host2 script" complain about no X |
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| 18:30.52 | AimHere | What about ssh -x? |
| 18:30.55 | jelly-home | blizzkid: does the script itself complain, or does ssh complain? |
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| 18:31.13 | blizzkid | jelly-home: ssh complains, the script runs fine when ran on host2 |
| 18:31.48 | jelly-home | blizzkid: that's irrelevant, then? |
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| 18:31.48 | blizzkid | jelly-home: remember, host1 doesn't have X |
| 18:32.04 | jelly-home | blizzkid: I don't see why X is involved at all. |
| 18:32.21 | blizzkid | jelly-home: coz it's notify-send, which needs X |
| 18:32.58 | jelly-home | oh, so you're running an X app rathe than a script |
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| 18:33.27 | blizzkid | jelly-home: no, I'm running a script that runs notify-send (a slight nuance) |
| 18:33.49 | AimHere | You could set the DISPLAY variable to point to the local X display when invoking the script |
| 18:34.08 | blizzkid | AimHere: that doesn't work, tried that yesterday |
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| 18:34.17 | jelly-home | blizzkid: if there's a user logged in at host2, and you're running that stuff as the very same user, you can do what AimHere suggests |
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| 18:34.45 | jelly-home | blizzkid: how does it not work? |
| 18:34.48 | macrobat | oh, what are remote displays called? |
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| 18:35.30 | ic3man5 | I installed debian testing amd64 with the lxde install option. My qt fonts look horrible: http://i38.tinypic.com/fk1l36.png How do I fix this? |
| 18:35.48 | blizzkid | jelly-home: ssh martijn@che /home/martijn/.scripts/backupstatus.sh started |
| 18:35.48 | blizzkid | libnotify-Message: Unable to get session bus: /bin/dbus-launch terminated abnormally with the following error: No protocol specified |
| 18:35.51 | blizzkid | Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed. |
| 18:35.54 | macrobat | is there a way to copypaste text from an app running on remote host? (through ssh) |
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| 18:37.18 | jelly-home | blizzkid: now, the next time you're logged in locally, inspect the available environment variables. one or more will be dbus related. Try setting those in addition to setting DISPLAY. |
| 18:37.32 | blizzkid | k, hold on |
| 18:37.41 | Dominicus | join #xen |
| 18:37.45 | DexterF | jelly-home: well, about mplayer - I wanted to use this as an occasion to build debs from src. I really haven't git much clue what all the stuff in the debian/ dir does and what the proper procedure is. the package maintainer guide just doesn't get to the point. |
| 18:37.49 | AimHere | Won't notify-send be useless in a non-X context? |
| 18:38.06 | jelly-home | DexterF: /msg dpkg ssb is a bit more concrete. |
| 18:38.15 | suffe | I'm looking for some (fairly) easy sollution that will let random users upload files through their web browser to my server. Maybe a flash-frontend to apache but it really doesn't matter. Just upload. No browsing or downloading or anything else. Any ideas? |
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| 18:38.17 | AimHere | Couldn't you just mod the script to check if X is on, and if it's not, just not bother trying to fire up X apps? |
| 18:38.34 | DexterF | jelly-home: that's all about backporting |
| 18:38.36 | blizzkid | AimHere: X will always be running (in this case) |
| 18:38.48 | blizzkid | jelly-home: exporting that indeed did the trick |
| 18:39.16 | AimHere | Err, it's not running here. |
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| 18:39.30 | jelly-home | DexterF: that's the simplest way to do it, use existing debian source, and work upon that and the newer tree from vcs. also, "/msg dpkg uupdate" |
| 18:39.38 | AimHere | By checking if X is on, I mean if there's a useful X display, not that your machine is running an X server |
| 18:39.41 | DexterF | jelly-home: ah, diving in the catchwords helps... |
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| 18:40.43 | blizzkid | AimHere: that's the same for this script |
| 18:41.56 | dkay | hello debian, i got a problem! i installed windows and now my bootloader wont boot up! i tried to fix the mbr with an knoppix live cd, but no success! what can i do!? any hints? |
| 18:42.07 | wald0 | what happens when a forced reboot happened to a XFS ? the corrupted files are saved like in JFS or they are removed like in ReiserFS ? |
| 18:42.10 | blizzkid | well, thx jelly-home and c y'all later |
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| 18:43.25 | dkay | have followed several guides found on google but i cant repair! i also have only the netinstall cd! not the debian install cd! |
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| 18:43.39 | LtL | dkay: windows overwrote the MBR, you need to re-install grub. |
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| 18:44.00 | dkay | when i try to install grub from netinstall, debian wants me to rewrite the whole partitions. |
| 18:44.42 | dkay | i wont rewrite the whole hd partitions :) |
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| 18:46.08 | LtL | dkay: i understand that, shouldn't need to, but i'm not familiar enough with it, perhaps d/l a live cd from windows and use that |
| 18:46.12 | dkay | LtL, how to reinstall grub? when i try to install grub from the netinstall cd debian wants to rewrite the hd partitions. |
| 18:46.23 | dkay | oh |
| 18:46.24 | dkay | ok |
| 18:46.42 | Dominicus | I'm looking at the Debian repositories, and I'm noticing some "oldstyle Xen support" and some sort of "Xen system". It's as if some sort of change happened. So, I'm curious if anyone can explain that to me? (It all deals with getting a kernel with Xen enabled. I was just curious what the differences were.) |
| 18:47.05 | LtL | dkay: there are plenty of tutorials out there that should help |
| 18:47.33 | dkay | i am able to open a shell when i load the netinstall cd! cant i just edit the grub? |
| 18:47.52 | dkay | yes, thats plenty tutorials brings me everytiime to the same end |
| 18:48.19 | dkay | argh |
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| 18:50.08 | wald0 | no XFS geeks around ? |
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| 18:50.31 | abrotman | wald0: there is #xfs i believe |
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| 18:53.42 | LtL | dkay: try here http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/restore-debian-linux-grub-boot-loader.html |
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| 18:57.19 | dkay | LtL, my harddisk partitions are: dev/hda0 (ntfs windows) hda2 (ntfs Datapartition) hda6 (SWAP) hda7 ( / /boot and /linux) hda8 (fat32 datapartition) |
| 18:57.24 | marcty | This has annoyed me long enough now.. i have this box where i've messed around with file permissions too much, and now ssh login takes forever for some reason |
| 18:57.32 | marcty | that is... wrong password entries are detected pretty fast, but when I enter the correct password, it takes like 20-30 seconds to get a shell |
| 18:57.33 | dkay | which of that is the partition to install grub? |
| 18:57.50 | dkay | i guess hda0 with windows or is it hda7 with my / |
| 18:57.51 | marcty | Sounds odd since a different server on the same net, with almost the exact same setup doesn't have this problem |
| 18:58.16 | marcty | and it started happening directly after me messing with file permissions |
| 18:58.41 | LtL | dkay: sata drive? grub uses different notation? probably /dev/sda |
| 18:58.59 | dkay | no, my laptop has ide drive |
| 18:59.52 | dkay | hda0 (ntfs windows) hda1 (ntfs data) hda6 (swap) hda7 ( / /ro0t /boot) hda8 (fat32 data) |
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| 19:00.55 | dkay | hda0 20GB(ntfs windows) hda1 60GB(ntfs data) hda6 2GB(swap) hda7 60GB( / /ro0t /boot) hda8 10GB(fat32 data) |
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| 19:01.24 | dkay | but on which i have to install grub? |
| 19:01.39 | LtL | dkay: i'm not dead sure, and i don't want to steer you wrong. probably /dev/hda |
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| 19:02.04 | LtL | dkay: the hda0 hda1 etc are partitions |
| 19:02.10 | dkay | dev/hda is the header from my hd with 160GB... |
| 19:03.03 | Arrowmaster | your trying to fix grub right? |
| 19:03.03 | dkay | hda does not exist as partition!? |
| 19:03.03 | dkay | yes |
| 19:03.03 | Arrowmaster | hda is the entire drive not a partition |
| 19:03.03 | LtL | dkay: right, hda is the drive |
| 19:03.04 | Arrowmaster | you install grub to the entire drive not a partition |
| 19:03.04 | marcty | using Qemu, can I establish a vpn connection from a guest machine and use that connection from the host machine? or does that sound stupid? |
| 19:04.20 | dkay | to /dev/hda, okay good hint! any tutorials says this : "Again replace /dev/hda and /dev/sda with your actual device names." i wasnt really sure |
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| 19:08.00 | LtL | dkay: it should be grub-install /dev/hda but i think you need to boot off a livecd and not have hda mounted. i'm not sure. |
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| 19:09.03 | dkay | i got a knoppix live cd! i will try it with the guide you sent me |
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| 19:10.55 | LtL | dkay: that will work, i'd use a real debian guide though. the one i gave you was a reference more or less |
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| 19:12.47 | LtL | dkay: i would copy or print your /boot/grub/menu.lst if i were you. |
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| 19:13.42 | netgod | the 5.0.3 graphical installer is gorgeous, compared to what im used to (I last did a fresh install Aeons ago) |
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| 19:14.13 | abrotman | now you can click on Debian!!! |
| 19:14.18 | marcty | using Qemu, can I establish a vpn connection from a guest machine and use that connection from the host machine? or does that sound stupid? |
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| 19:15.34 | wald0 | abrotman: thx |
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| 19:15.41 | abrotman | ? |
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| 19:22.55 | lvh | abrotman: dont make me create a text mode installer with gpm out of spite :-p |
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| 19:23.41 | abrotman | lvh: go for it |
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| 19:25.44 | wald0 | how stable is XFS under power outages ? |
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| 19:32.47 | wald0 | im using raid10,f2 setup, what is the main goal of raid5 ? correct integrity of the data ? |
| 19:32.53 | orak3l | with stock kernel i got directories like usbmon usb_hub usb_endpoint in /sys/class/ . With my own compiled kernel these directories are missing. though usb is working fine. |
| 19:33.24 | orak3l | why is that? |
| 19:33.35 | dvs | wald0: a trade-off between integrity and capacity |
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| 19:37.01 | wald0 | dvs: what about speed ? |
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| 19:37.29 | wald0 | dvs: im looking the raid5 structure and its similar to the raid10,f2, with the difference that raid10,f2 doesn't has integrity checks if im not wrong (just mirror) |
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| 19:38.16 | dvs | wald0: I don't know about raid 10 |
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| 19:40.07 | jair | hello guys I am preparing my network to set up a dns server bind9 running on debian lenny 5.0.3 - if I want to check if the network have port 53 open tcp I can use nmap correct? |
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| 19:40.48 | wald0 | is there any list of available raid options resumed in a single line ? |
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| 19:41.16 | bzip3 | wald0, try wikipedia. |
| 19:41.39 | cusco | !raid |
| 19:41.40 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, raid is Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks. See RAID{0-5}, <Software Raid>, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels, <raid-resizing> |
| 19:41.58 | bzip3 | cool |
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| 19:42.29 | bzip3 | lets try the worst options first heheheh |
| 19:42.31 | bzip3 | !raid3 |
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| 19:44.29 | leper_ | hello anyone can help me please, i have issues with my sound car, the head phone don't sound, is laptop with debian squeeze |
| 19:44.30 | wald0 | bzip3: yes, im reading the wikipedia, but is long... i wanted to see the differences of the raid levels resumed in a single line |
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| 19:45.44 | bzip3 | in only one single line you will not realize the strong points of every type... |
| 19:46.16 | bzip3 | and probably you'll use the wrong type for yor case |
| 19:46.36 | ukl | RaKam -- what the heck? ON-JOIN Spam? |
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| 19:48.42 | TheJoe | You know, out of all the problems I could habe. I can't figure out where the hell a .so is supposed to go so it can be used by MySQL. |
| 19:48.46 | TheJoe | I'm using Lenny. |
| 19:48.52 | ProGenY | RaKam is spaming |
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| 19:49.07 | adb | !ops RaKam |
| 19:49.07 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: adb complains about: RaKam |
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| 19:49.48 | abrotman | ProGenY: thank you |
| 19:49.55 | bzip3 | TheJoe, the .so exists on the system? and its on the ld path? |
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| 19:49.59 | jlnkjnk | hi, can i force a font not to have bold weight ? i don't like how directories are shown in bold and the other files are shown in normal font weight in konsole, the font is terminus (xfonts-terminus) |
| 19:50.03 | TheJoe | bzip3: I compiled it myself |
| 19:50.12 | ProGenY | welcome |
| 19:50.59 | TheJoe | bzip3: And uhh... I lost you at ld path |
| 19:51.05 | bzip3 | TheJoe, and you want to compile mysql using it, not only run mysql already compilled against it... thats it? |
| 19:51.46 | TheJoe | MySQL is already running and installed, it needs to use the .so |
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| 19:52.34 | bzip3 | try ldconfig path/to/the/lib.so |
| 19:52.43 | bzip3 | and ldd /path/to/bin/mysqld |
| 19:52.56 | TheJoe | Alright |
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| 19:53.52 | pclark | Do you guys know if rsnapshot can be used to backup your local machine to a remote one? I can't seem to find info about this, only found how to backup remote machines to the local one... |
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| 19:54.09 | leper_ | hello anyone can help me please, i have issues with my sound car, the head phone don't sound, is laptop with debian squeeze |
| 19:54.47 | peterrooney | leper_ alsaconf and alsamixer packages usually help |
| 19:54.55 | TheJoe | bzip3: Err... Where would mysqld be? Sorry. |
| 19:55.10 | bzip3 | anyone knows a channel to talk about kfreebsd here on freenode? |
| 19:55.33 | bzip3 | TheJoe, it can be anywhere hahahahah |
| 19:55.42 | bzip3 | TheJoe, try whereis mysqld |
| 19:55.49 | TheJoe | Ok well a default apt-get'd mysql5 |
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| 19:56.00 | leper_ | peterrooney, i probe it and didn't work |
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| 19:57.34 | TheJoe | bzip3: Hmm well that didn't quite work |
| 19:57.40 | TheJoe | #1126 - Can't open shared library still |
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| 19:59.20 | bzip3 | TheJoe try only ldconfig |
| 19:59.28 | bzip3 | and ldd on mysqld again |
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| 19:59.46 | Brune | I have a problem, I put http://mydomain.com:631/printers/epson_worforce500 as my printer but i cant print to it unless I am in the same network as it on my laptop. I am trying to get the ability to print from anywhere. I have enabled internet printing. |
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| 20:00.16 | TheJoe | bzip3: Nope :\ |
| 20:00.17 | bzip3 | ldd on the .so is a good try too. maybe its damaged... |
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| 20:00.23 | TheJoe | Ah yeah |
| 20:00.27 | cahoot | Brune: and restarted cups? |
| 20:00.37 | Brune | cahoot: several times |
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| 20:00.56 | TheJoe | bzip3: No dice |
| 20:01.13 | cahoot | Brune: no firewall or such interfering? |
| 20:01.39 | Brune | i have port 631 forwarded thats all to the printing computer |
| 20:01.52 | Brune | cahoot: do i need more then just that port? |
| 20:02.05 | bzip3 | TheJoe, do you want to try de BruteJOE way ? |
| 20:02.21 | TheJoe | bzip3: If it works |
| 20:02.26 | bzip3 | ok |
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| 20:02.41 | bzip3 | cp /path/to/dam/lib.so /lib/ |
| 20:03.12 | bzip3 | ldd /lib/lib.so to see if its finding its dependencies |
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| 20:03.22 | bzip3 | ldconfig (with no parameters) |
| 20:03.30 | bzip3 | and finally ldd on mysqld |
| 20:03.48 | Pudgy | I just had a very funny *lol* moment just yet which I just _have_ to share. As a long-time vim user I just thought I'd have a go at solving editing problems with Emacs, so googled/read up to speed. Apt-get emacs ... fired it up, And saw a gui. It actually scared me! |
| 20:03.49 | bzip3 | well... i think that we are perverting the objective of this channel... |
| 20:03.55 | ale_ | hi |
| 20:04.19 | bzip3 | Pudgy: hahahahahah |
| 20:04.39 | Pudgy | still recovering... |
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| 20:04.53 | TheJoe | bzip3: Wonderful, thank you |
| 20:05.03 | TheJoe | I get paid now... heh |
| 20:05.07 | bzip3 | TheJoe :) |
| 20:05.29 | TheJoe | Thanks a lot! Bye |
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| 20:07.31 | Brune | cahoot: any ideas? |
| 20:08.01 | cahoot | Brune: lsof -i ont the server shows cups listening? |
| 20:08.19 | Pudgy | heh... I still don't know how to close that;)) just kill the process I guess |
| 20:08.36 | bzip3 | Pudgy: kill -9 |
| 20:08.42 | Pudgy | rofl! |
| 20:08.44 | bzip3 | or simply xkill |
| 20:08.45 | Brune | cahoot: no it doesn't |
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| 20:09.14 | cahoot | Brune: so you need redo the config |
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| 20:09.27 | Brune | cahoot: i never have touched the config |
| 20:09.55 | cahoot | Brune: you said you enabled network printing |
| 20:10.11 | Brune | cahoot: yeah though the web gui |
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| 20:11.33 | Brune | cahoot: erm actually i redid that lsof -i command with sudo in front... cups is running |
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| 20:12.58 | cahoot | Brune: compare the servers config with this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/Setting_Up_a_Network_Printer_using_CUPS |
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| 20:13.24 | cahoot | Brune: I have to leave |
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| 20:21.22 | arielco | Hello everyone: I just accidentally 'rm -Rf'-ed a directory in an ext3 filesystem. There was no filesystem damage or anything like that. but the file types are as varied as can be - even some raw data. |
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| 20:21.31 | arielco | Is there any way to recover the directory and then its entries, recursively? (as opposed to scanning the device for known filetypes) |
| 20:22.11 | wald0 | it is RAID6 a good choice ? |
| 20:22.28 | bzip3 | arielco, there are some tools to recover from ext2 |
| 20:22.36 | bzip3 | and your ext3 is backward compatible |
| 20:22.51 | arielco | without having to extract the deleted blocks first? |
| 20:23.03 | arielco | that's what I'd HATE to do - debugfs and all that |
| 20:23.04 | bzip3 | do you know mc? can you mount your fs as ext2 and try the undelete option of mc |
| 20:23.18 | arielco | umm... didn't know that |
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| 20:24.28 | bzip3 | arielco, any tool to recover from ext2 will work on your fs, but it must be mounted as ext2 |
| 20:25.15 | arielco | bzip3, uh-huh. Looking for mc, since the CD I had on hand doesn't have it =/ |
| 20:25.34 | arielco | (odd that, being it a classic) |
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| 20:26.33 | bzip3 | arielco, doesnt install anything on the fs you want to recover... |
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| 20:26.50 | arielco | bzip3, yup, I already unmounted it |
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| 20:27.13 | bzip3 | alright |
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| 20:27.46 | bzip3 | you can mount it ro to protect it during the process... |
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| 20:28.30 | bzip3 | arielco, mc is alive and broadly available on the net... |
| 20:28.50 | bzip3 | just do an apt-get install mc |
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| 20:32.20 | doublehp | when will stable support ext4 ? |
| 20:32.43 | abrotman | when it officially gets a new kernel |
| 20:32.58 | abrotman | so maybe lennynhalf |
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| 20:33.20 | elnovato1 | Hi, does Samba works with Windows7 ? |
| 20:33.39 | abrotman | ask #samba |
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| 20:34.04 | bzip3 | but yes, it works... if windows works at all. |
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| 20:39.31 | jair | guys. if any of you run bind9 on debian, if I want to enable recursion for clients on my dns server what file do I need to edit? "/etc/bind/named.conf.options"? |
| 20:40.39 | sepult | jair: /etc/bind/named.conf.options and /etc/bind/named.conf.local |
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| 20:43.19 | jair | sepult: why both files? |
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| 20:44.08 | jair | sepult: I thought that "/etc/bind/named.conf.options"? "options" means where I add additional settings or instructions for bind9... |
| 20:47.12 | elnovato1 | where is webmin? |
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| 20:47.35 | streuner_ | elnovato1: /msg dpkg webmin |
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| 20:50.40 | jair | sepult: ??? |
| 20:50.58 | sepult | sorry but got thrown out by emacs |
| 20:51.22 | sepult | jair: named.conf.options and named.conf.local or so you have to edit |
| 20:51.46 | sepult | jair: include rfc-19bla |
| 20:52.26 | sepult | and put your dns nameservers ip's i named.conf.options as forwarders |
| 20:52.35 | sepult | in |
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| 20:54.06 | jair | sepult: wait a minute. I want this dns server to resolve addresses internally only. |
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| 20:54.42 | jair | sepult: the reason why i want to add recursion is because the clients are not able to resolve addresses like www.google.com |
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| 20:55.10 | jair | sepult: so i read in on eof the mailing list that recursion will need to be enabled |
| 20:55.20 | blm | when dpkg does not know a certain keyword it tells you to rtfm? |
| 20:56.11 | AimHere | I hope so, blm. Saves us having to tell you to rtfm! |
| 20:56.19 | blm | hehe |
| 20:56.36 | marvil07 | hi all |
| 20:56.38 | blm | just misleading when you poke it in query about things that interest you |
| 20:56.55 | marvil07 | anyone using xvidcap here with normal results? |
| 20:57.05 | catsup | wald0: git verifies its output with checksums just like one of those fancy new filesystems |
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| 20:57.15 | blm | marvil07: whats the actual problem with xvidcap? |
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| 20:59.08 | marvil07 | blm: hi, I really do not know, I got the video after the record, but it have different color(kind of homogeneous light red) and size |
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| 20:59.59 | blm | marvil07: and you use the debian package for lenny? |
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| 21:00.06 | bzip3 | marvil07, sounds like a codec problem... |
| 21:00.31 | marvil07 | blm: I'm on squeeze, and use that package |
| 21:00.56 | marvil07 | bzip3: I also tried with different codecs |
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| 21:05.39 | blm | marvil07: whats the package name please? |
| 21:06.01 | marvil07 | blm, bzip3 : it looks this way http://imagebin.ca/view/aS3LLq.html |
| 21:06.24 | marvil07 | blm: the package name is xvidcap |
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| 21:07.07 | blm | thats weird, cause i cant find it via packages.debian.org nor bugs.debian.org nor launchpad.net |
| 21:07.15 | bzip3 | marvil07, running mplayer on a terminal... there are no interesting outputs ? |
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| 21:07.57 | bzip3 | and the codec mplayer is using do play (it will be on terminal) is the same you used to encode ? |
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| 21:08.47 | blm | oh yeah, its marillat ware, thats why |
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| 21:08.57 | person | How secure are backports generally? Why is it not recommended by the backports.org author to upgrade your whole distro with the backports - is it because the backports package standards aren't as good as standard Debian ones? |
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| 21:09.51 | blm | sepult: part for a moment |
| 21:09.53 | sepult | sorry |
| 21:10.03 | person | lol |
| 21:10.16 | blm | ah, it finally stopped. why the heck did the bot not interrupt? |
| 21:10.25 | marvil07 | blm, bzip3: here xvid version detail and mplayer output http://pastebin.ca/1613492 |
| 21:10.29 | abrotman | sepult: do NOT paste in here again |
| 21:10.45 | sepult | yep |
| 21:10.59 | abrotman | sepult: maybe you should point the guy at the Bind ARM and let him read for himself ? |
| 21:11.05 | blm | marvil07: i suppose you need gstreamer*-bad and maybe gstreamer*-ugly from debian-multimedia.org to play this video |
| 21:11.25 | sepult | abrotman: that's a better idea yes |
| 21:11.28 | Dominicus | I'm able to mount a remote nfs export with /etc/exports values of (192.168.1.10(rw,sync,subtree_check). Even though the "mount" command reports it as mounted rw. And the folder on both machines is owned by the same user number with 755 permission on the folders at both ends. Does anyone know how to resolve this? |
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| 21:11.47 | bzip3 | marvil07, host a little video to help us mitigate it... |
| 21:11.49 | Dominicus | er. that is. I cannot copy files over the nfs mount, via superuser. lol |
| 21:12.03 | sepult | he didn't understand forwarding is the recursion part |
| 21:12.10 | bzip3 | maybe its only your mplayer that cant play... |
| 21:12.24 | gnarface | so i've got a weird question and i assume the answer is "bad hardware" but just in case i was hoping maybe one of you gurus could help me |
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| 21:13.05 | streuner_ | looks around |
| 21:13.12 | gnarface | what can make ethernet experience 100% packet loss to/from a host that has 1) a correct ethernet config in /etc/network/interfaces 2) link lights 3) a verified cable 4) no error messages and a normal ifconfig output (all worked before hand) |
| 21:13.14 | marvil07 | bzip3: I think I got them http://pastebin.ca/1613501 |
| 21:13.52 | gnarface | could changing a bios setting like "byte merge" or "pci to dram prefetch" cause this type of silent failure? |
| 21:14.01 | jpinx-eeepc | gnarface: beforehand? before you did what exactly? |
| 21:14.30 | gnarface | jpinx-eeepc: before the old power supply fried taking the old ethernet card with it |
| 21:14.31 | jair | sepult: I will read the manual ARM and see if I can resolve the forwarders and recursion issue |
| 21:14.33 | jpinx-eeepc | gnarface: change it back and see if it recovers |
| 21:14.37 | blm | marvil07: then i dont know, sorry |
| 21:14.38 | Dominicus | gnarface: if you can cross over cable between the two systems involved, and it works, then the problem is in between. the network switsh(s). |
| 21:14.40 | jair | sepult: but thank you so much for the info |
| 21:14.53 | sepult | jair: no problem if i could help |
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| 21:15.04 | gnarface | Dominicus: good tip didn't try that yet thanks. |
| 21:15.09 | person | Why does the backports.org author recommend not to replace every package possible with a backport; are backports.org standards lower than official debian repository standards? |
| 21:15.30 | themill | !backport caveat |
| 21:15.30 | dpkg | Remember that in installing backports, you will be using an unusual configuration of packages that has not been tested as thoroughly as Debian stable and that newer packages have both newer features and newer bugs. Ask me about <version chasing>. Also note that you can't rely on backports to patched quickly if vulnerabilities are discovered |
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| 21:15.39 | gnarface | jpinx-eeepc: its also an old via apollo pro 133 board and i've put a bttv tuner card in it |
| 21:15.44 | gnarface | the tuner card however works |
| 21:15.52 | gnarface | (mostly) |
| 21:15.56 | person | Thanks themill |
| 21:16.13 | blm | person: is your desired package in volatile maybe? |
| 21:16.50 | person | blm: Don't know; I don't know about volatile, why? |
| 21:17.06 | dondelelcaro | gnarface: if you've had a powersupply failure take out the card, it may have also taken out the switch, or cables, or just about anything |
| 21:17.19 | blm | person: cause that repository gets security updates and is well tested |
| 21:17.21 | marvil07 | blm: thanks for the help |
| 21:18.07 | marvil07 | bzip3: the video is on https://dl.getdropbox.com/u/923871/test-0000.mpeg |
| 21:18.07 | person | thanks blm |
| 21:18.52 | blm | marvil07: your video looks the same for me |
| 21:19.36 | blm | marvil07: and both options (mpeg, avi) for xvidcap lead to this result? |
| 21:19.56 | marvil07 | blm: yep, also flv and mov containers |
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| 21:20.17 | blm | marvil07: have you tried playing with the screen resolution? |
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| 21:20.18 | martianlobster | can someone tell me which package I need install to get documentation for c functions like malloc, and strcmp? I just installed gcc-doc, but it doesn't appear to be in this package. Or perhaps I need to do something after I apt-get install it? |
| 21:20.40 | gnarface | dondelelcaro: (don't worry i checked all them with another machine) this just in! disabling byte merge and "pci to dram prefetch" in the bios fixed it!! |
| 21:20.47 | gnarface | either that or the reboot itself randomly fixed it but i doubt that |
| 21:20.47 | marvil07 | blm: nop, what resolution do you think I should try? |
| 21:20.58 | jpinx-eeepc | gnarface: told ya! |
| 21:21.02 | gnarface | does anyone know what these bios settings are for in the first place, other than breaking ethernet traffic? |
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| 21:21.17 | gnarface | now i'm wondering what other settings might be interfering with optimal functionality of the system |
| 21:21.24 | blm | marvil07: maybe a very small one like 640x480 |
| 21:21.32 | jpinx-eeepc | gnarface: it's the old saying "if it ain't broke - don't fix it" |
| 21:21.35 | gnarface | i also have obscure meaning settings like "pci 2.1 delayed transaction" (enabled/disabled) |
| 21:21.38 | marvil07 | ok, I'll try |
| 21:21.54 | sepult | jair: another key word is delegate |
| 21:22.02 | blm | marvil07: oh, and are you on x86 or 64bit? |
| 21:22.06 | objorn | can someone help me please: Reading package lists... Done |
| 21:22.08 | objorn | W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org unstable Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1201887412 |
| 21:22.10 | objorn | W: GPG error: http://www.debian-multimedia.org stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
| 21:22.12 | gnarface | jpinx-eeepc: good point i'll fire test the tv capture card now to see if its still randomly freaking the bttv driver out |
| 21:22.33 | themill | martianlobster: manpages-dev is the package you're looking for |
| 21:22.35 | person | blm: What's backports for when there's volatile? |
| 21:22.44 | martianlobster | themill: thanks! |
| 21:22.48 | jelly-home | martianlobster: manpages-dev |
| 21:22.53 | martianlobster | jelly-home: thanks |
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| 21:23.00 | Chris-t | Hello there |
| 21:23.09 | jelly-home | slow jelly is slow |
| 21:23.16 | objorn | catsup: you are always help, want to suggest something? :-) |
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| 21:23.31 | blm | person: backports.org is basically a hobby for several debian developers who put packages they personally need up there for others to use |
| 21:24.02 | jelly-home | person: there is very little stuff in volatile. |
| 21:24.08 | person | Ah |
| 21:24.30 | jpinx-eeepc | person: it's a valid point and maybe volatile will take over eventually, but for now backports had much more in it. |
| 21:24.45 | jpinx-eeepc | person: and don't forget ssb |
| 21:24.53 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell person about ssb |
| 21:25.05 | blm | what matters is not that a lot of files are in that repository. the important part is how these are maintained |
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| 21:25.16 | blm | and volatile is officially supported |
| 21:25.33 | blm | but backports is not |
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| 21:27.43 | person | jpinx-eeepc: Yeah I got that message from pkg but what... is ssb? I googled and didn't find it. |
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| 21:28.19 | jpinx-eeepc | person: simple sid backport - it's a backport you build yourself |
| 21:28.36 | person | I see thanks jpinx-eeepc |
| 21:29.30 | jpinx-eeepc | person: I use stable with backports and I ad to build one ssb |
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| 21:30.55 | gnarface | alright so far so good despite the distinct smell of ozone near the machine... |
| 21:30.55 | gnarface | tvtime and bttv playing nice |
| 21:31.04 | gnarface | performing admirably considering its only a p3 700 |
| 21:31.32 | gnarface | now this is an old via apollo pro 133 chip and i was getting intermittant graphical corruption in tvtime |
| 21:31.53 | gnarface | earlier i thought it was the fault of the nvidia drivers failing to play nice with agpgart |
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| 21:32.21 | blm | gnarface: and the tv card is running on a bt*78 chip? |
| 21:32.44 | gnarface | bt848, super old school; has anyone seen an old via apollo pro chipset work better/more stable with the nvidia internal binary agp interface instead of agpgart? |
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| 21:33.16 | gnarface | cause before i found that bios setting to be causing some problems (perhaps all as far as i know at this point) i was gonna compile a kernel sans-agpgart to try the nvidia agp interface |
| 21:34.02 | praseodym | is there some script available that allows me to back up a system by only copying actual 'user' data, content from packages? |
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| 21:34.25 | person | Thanks for the help folks |
| 21:34.37 | praseodym | and maybe allow restoring an installation by pulling in all previously installed packages and copying back the user data |
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| 21:34.57 | maher | i don't seem to be able to get my bluettoth headset working - i can see it in hcitool scan and kbluetootj |
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| 21:37.53 | lecas | for the ip frowarding to work, do i need to setup iptables ?? |
| 21:38.07 | wald0 | catsup: fancy new filesystems that is not usable yet ? |
| 21:38.20 | marvil07 | blm: I'm on x86 and I tried on 640x480, 800x600 on different frequencies also, but bad luck,, thanks for the time |
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| 21:38.43 | blm | marvil07: too bad :( |
| 21:39.26 | blm | marvil07: last resort is the sourceforge page then, and maybe a bug report there |
| 21:39.47 | marvil07 | blm: I was using gtk-recordmydesktop, but there are some audio problems(some little cuts) so I tried xvidcap |
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| 21:40.35 | marvil07 | blm: another person told me to try from sources, so let see what happen with that |
| 21:41.24 | blm | marvil07: good luck :) |
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| 21:41.55 | marvil07 | blm: thanks, I'll report if that work here :D |
| 21:42.11 | blm | that would be nice :) |
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| 21:52.52 | nsadmin | so what is the state of sound drivers in (and out) of the kernel? reason I ask, is at least one driver author (faberman, hdsp driver) has sworn off alsa, citing device naming (I guess you'd have to talk to him to get real details; I dunno what bug is up his butt)... are there plans for example to rewrite alsa? are there new drivers on the horizon? anyone know anything? :) |
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| 21:54.46 | Dominicus | I have two systems, and I'm trying to move 300gigs of data from one to another over 100mbit. (Theoretical 12.5 MB/sec), but I'm only seeing 1.15MB/s over the NFS link. I'm even tar+gziping on the source to squeeze more throughput out of it. Does anyone have any suggestions? (I can go gigabit, but with the bottleneck, what would be the point) |
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| 21:55.25 | nsadmin | what is the bottleneck? |
| 21:55.31 | dondelelcaro | Dominicus: depends on what the bottleneck is; generally though, you should be seeing line speeds with NFS |
| 21:55.58 | bzip3 | Dominicus, you have to first identify the bottleneck |
| 21:56.03 | dondelelcaro | Dominicus: usually when you don't, youv'e got packet loss or bad cabeling or other issues |
| 21:56.13 | bzip3 | the CPU's on each side are idle ? |
| 21:56.14 | abrotman | depending on the speed of the machines, the gzipping may be hurting your speed |
| 21:56.26 | nsadmin | therefore you probably are seeing line speeds, and the bottleneck is about the hubs and cards |
| 21:56.48 | nsadmin | that's true too, gzip isn't all that fast |
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| 21:57.13 | nsadmin | maybe you should test with a known file size |
| 21:57.49 | nsadmin | to see what the link is actually capable of |
| 21:57.53 | gnarface | netcat! |
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| 21:58.26 | nsadmin | right, or anything but nfs so you can eliminate that as a variable for now |
| 21:58.29 | Dominicus | nsadmin: Well, the originating machine is a P4 3ghz with hyperthreading, from IBM Deskstars with cyptluks operating in raid1 (historial benchmark raw speeds 30+ MB/s). The target machine is a i7 920 modern machine that I built last month. Is there a more specific way of identying the bottleneck.. as in, is there linux tools to test for line issues? It's going through a linksys wireless/router |
| 21:58.35 | Dominicus | (all cabled of course). |
| 21:59.02 | gnarface | well if its linksys |
| 21:59.05 | gnarface | first look at the lights |
| 21:59.10 | gnarface | and make sure all 3 are on for each port |
| 21:59.21 | gnarface | if you're not even connecting at 100mbps then you've got line issues for sure |
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| 21:59.41 | gnarface | did you make these cables yourself? |
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| 22:00.01 | gnarface | if you did its not sufficient to just make sure the wires are all in the same order |
| 22:00.04 | nsadmin | do they have all 8 wires connected? |
| 22:00.12 | gnarface | you have to put them in a SPECIFIC order to avoid crosstalk |
| 22:00.16 | gnarface | this order, to be precise: |
| 22:00.21 | gnarface | OL |
| 22:00.21 | gnarface | Orange |
| 22:00.21 | gnarface | GL |
| 22:00.21 | gnarface | Blue |
| 22:00.21 | gnarface | BL |
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| 22:00.34 | gnarface | woops sorry |
| 22:00.37 | gnarface | guess thats a flood |
| 22:00.52 | nsadmin | gnarface: cmon now :) put them on one line... should be easy :) |
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| 22:01.17 | gnarface | one sec... |
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| 22:01.40 | gnarface | sorry i was just copy+pasting |
| 22:01.40 | nsadmin | you could probably do... |
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| 22:01.53 | Rezagrats | How do i configure a dual-display ? |
| 22:02.09 | nsadmin | cat (whatever file it was) | xargs -n 1 echo |
| 22:03.00 | abrotman | !tell Rezagrats about dual monitors |
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| 22:03.00 | gnarface | "L" is for line (usually on white): Orange L, Orange, Green L, Blue, Blue L, Green, Brown L, Brown |
| 22:03.17 | Rezagrats | ...? |
| 22:03.34 | gnarface | Rezagrats: if you are using a nvidia card with the binary gunk drivers read their readme about TwinView, otherwise search google for "xinerama" |
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| 22:05.00 | abrotman | Rezagrats: see what the bot told you |
| 22:05.24 | Rezagrats | Yes |
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| 22:05.54 | Rezagrats | I gotta plug an eth cable into my debian machine in first |
| 22:05.56 | Rezagrats | ;p |
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| 22:08.18 | ampx | Does any experience a slight memory leak with Xorg |
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| 22:09.12 | marvil07 | blm: xvidcap run ok from sources :D |
| 22:10.01 | Rezagrats | According to dpkg, xinerama does not exist. :p |
| 22:10.14 | blm | marvil07: sweet, so i guess it was a bug that has been fixed :) |
| 22:10.38 | marvil07 | blm: I suppose, thank the help |
| 22:10.56 | blm | marvil07: glad you were brave enough to help yourself :P |
| 22:11.53 | marvil07 | blm: after an hour, it's time to make the screencast :D, see u |
| 22:12.32 | blm | marvil07 :) |
| 22:12.51 | gnarface | Rezagrats: pretty sure its built into xorg |
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| 22:14.26 | Sarnuial | I've been running Ubuntu on my laptop, and I've gotten pretty fed up with it (sluggishness and the package release schedule mostly). Would Sid be a Bad Thing to put on my main machine? |
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| 22:15.17 | abrotman | Rezagrats: and the bot tells you to look at docs for xrandr |
| 22:15.21 | Sarnuial | to clarify, my laptop == my main machine |
| 22:15.22 | themill | Sarnuial: yes. Use stable or stable+backports unless you have the time and ability to unbreak things on a regular basis. |
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| 22:16.24 | Dominicus | gnarface: Yeah, I'm hip to the whole copper over gigabite wiring spec (EIA/TIA 568B). Been doing it that way for years, have my own crimping tools and everything. And I don't have any packet loss from host A to host B, going through the linksys device. So, the bottleneck is either software or network based somehow. And yes I made all these cables myself, it's all cat 5. |
| 22:16.31 | Sarnuial | themill: Thanks. how current is backports? as recent as whenever the project maintainer releases, or as recent as whenever the Debian team pushes the new release? |
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| 22:17.13 | gnarface | Dominicus: i didn't even know it was called that. once a long time ago an old man with a beard told me to do it that way so i did |
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| 22:17.22 | themill | Sarnuial: backports.org has a few newer packages that are believed to integrate into debian stable ok. Also /msg dpkg ssb |
| 22:17.35 | blm | ... |
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| 22:17.58 | Sarnuial | themill: thank you very much. |
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| 22:18.09 | gnarface | Sarnuial: i like sid. if its an amd64 laptop i *highly* recommend the powernowd and powernow-k8 modules for transparent power saving |
| 22:18.17 | gnarface | and cooling |
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| 22:19.19 | mimiloon | hi everybody, i have lenny installed on a laptop and when i connect an external usb mouse, the touchpad doesn't disable. i checked to see if i can change mouse settings to do that but there is no touchpad option under mouse section. how can i disable it when i connect an external usb? |
| 22:19.21 | Sarnuial | gnarface: it is amd64 (C2D T5800). I hadn't head of those; they sound useful |
| 22:19.31 | gnarface | Sarnuial: its worth noting that i *like* hands on config file configuration, so if you don't SID may not be for you |
| 22:19.58 | themill | Sarnuial: our normal reply about using sid is "if you have to ask, you shouldn't". |
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| 22:20.36 | blm | you shouldnt use backports then either |
| 22:20.41 | Sarnuial | gnarface: well, seeing as I've been considering Gentoo, I don't think I'd mind it that much ;) the "normal reply" does sound about right, though |
| 22:20.50 | gnarface | Sarnuial: my desktop machine runs about 10C cooler (motherboard AND chip) and i noticed that even under gaming load it rarely needs to actually put full throttle to both cores of the chip. power and temperature saving is amazing and it doesn't noticeably affect the usage experience that i can tell so far |
| 22:20.52 | Sarnuial | blm: why not backports? library dependencies? |
| 22:20.56 | themill | blm: bpo is much safer territory than sid |
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| 22:22.08 | gnarface | Sarnuial: its worth noting that i avoid complex window managers. the fact i use e16 still might have a strong effect on my positive experience with SID, though i can't say from experience. i haven't used gnome or kde (except for an occasional knoppix boot) in years |
| 22:22.22 | blm | its only saver in that way that dependencies dont break the system. you could aswell setup a base system with lenny, pin what you have and install xserver and gui and applications from testing. and just do dist-upgrades carefully |
| 22:22.25 | themill | Sarnuial: the issue with sid is more that you will get situations with completely broken packages and you need to be able to solve that yourself. It's not just a gentoo-ish you need to compile it yourself and tinker with it situation. |
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| 22:23.00 | themill | blm: please don't suggest that people do that. Mixing releases is most definitely not supported and is almost always doomed to failure. |
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| 22:23.42 | blm | themill: then please dont suggest the use of backports as its not officially supported nor covered by security updates nor making use of bugs.debian.org |
| 22:24.01 | themill | blm: [23:20] <themill> blm: bpo is much safer territory than sid |
| 22:24.02 | abrotman | blm: actually, they do get security updates, and the packages are created/maintained by DDs |
| 22:24.06 | Sarnuial | themill: ah, I see. so issues beyond what an apt-get remove will cure then :P |
| 22:24.13 | blm | abrotman: very funny |
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| 22:24.15 | themill | Sarnuial: quite |
| 22:24.20 | abrotman | blm: it's not a joke |
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| 22:24.36 | abrotman | the 'security updates' do happen at the leisure of the packager .. but they do happen |
| 22:24.43 | themill | blm: we're serious about that. bpo does get best-effort security support; sid gets none. |
| 22:24.45 | blm | abrotman: want me to mail the DPL and get an official statement regarding this? |
| 22:24.52 | abrotman | blm: go ahead .. have fun |
| 22:25.03 | dondelelcaro | blm: if you're not going to take their word for it, you can take mine. |
| 22:25.03 | nigihayami | can you lead me how I can install gspca driver module on a arm debian? |
| 22:25.17 | themill | blm: please troll elsewhere -- this is going nowhere that is useful for #debian. |
| 22:25.19 | blm | thats the point, "having fun" when you tell people to use backports. its not a well thought advice |
| 22:25.24 | mimiloon | can anyone help me plz, i have lenny installed on a laptop and when i connect an external usb mouse, the touchpad doesn't disable. i checked to see if i can change mouse settings to do that but there is no touchpad option under mouse section. how can i disable it when i connect an external usb? |
| 22:25.38 | abrotman | blm: you're the one that wants to prove us wrong .. if you think emailing the DPL will do that, go for it |
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| 22:25.46 | blm | themill: in my world calling people a troll is an insult. do you aim to insult me? |
| 22:26.00 | abrotman | nigihayami: on which version of debian ? |
| 22:26.19 | nigihayami | 4 |
| 22:26.22 | abrotman | etch ? |
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| 22:26.24 | abrotman | are you sure? |
| 22:26.28 | nigihayami | I am |
| 22:26.29 | blm | i may have used debian longer than you, so either talk to me in a well behaved way or dont talk to me at all |
| 22:26.47 | abrotman | nigihayami: m-a a-i gspca .. does tha twork for you? |
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| 22:27.02 | abrotman | longer than who? |
| 22:27.13 | nigihayami | Linux GESBC 2.6.23.12 #2 Thu Mar 20 11:05:06 EDT 2008 armv4tl GNU/Linux |
| 22:27.17 | Dominicu1 | gnarface: That network speed problem I'm having, is an auto-speed sensing issue that my Linksys 10/100 is having with my Gigabyte EX58-UD4P's 10/100/1000. I used to see this damned problem all the time at my last job. I just need to figure out how to manually set the port speed on my newer system's NIC. |
| 22:27.17 | blm | longer than people who are insulting and talking rubbish |
| 22:27.20 | abrotman | nigihayami: that's not a debian kernel? |
| 22:27.32 | themill | blm: I don't know what world you're from, but #debian, the #debian ops, the debian developers in the channel and the debian project as a whole seem quite happy to refer people to backports.org if they need individual packages that are newer than stable. |
| 22:27.33 | abrotman | blm: I'm going to email the DPL and ask him how long you've been using Debian |
| 22:27.50 | Dominicu1 | gnarface: The Linksys is essentially being stupid, and dropping down to 10 mbit, instead of locking in at 100mbit. |
| 22:27.52 | dgeary2 | i'm trying to use debian in a network boot fat client setup |
| 22:27.53 | blm | themill: and you are the right person to speak for the channel ops and the developers? |
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| 22:28.01 | abrotman | nigihayami: so we cannot tell you if the m-a a-i method will work with that kernel |
| 22:28.13 | dgeary2 | one of the things i do is mount the users home folder via sshfs when they log in |
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| 22:28.19 | nigihayami | abrotman: It may be custom kernel but system is debian I think |
| 22:28.25 | dondelelcaro | blm: considering that the two people you're talking to are both operators, and I'm both an operator and developer, yes. |
| 22:28.38 | blm | dondelelcaro: oh my gosh, are you serious? |
| 22:28.39 | abrotman | nigihayami: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 .. what does that line say ? |
| 22:28.42 | dgeary2 | i have a script in /etc/gdm/PreSession/ to wait until the home folder is mounted |
| 22:29.06 | blm | then i prefer to part this channel, thank you |
| 22:29.12 | themill | ciao! |
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| 22:29.14 | dgeary2 | but when I log in, half of the gnome panel applets die. Any ideas why? |
| 22:29.40 | Sarnuial | wow... um... sorry, I did not mean to cause that... |
| 22:29.42 | nigihayami | abrotman: ii libc6 2.3.6.ds1-13etch9 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 22:29.48 | abrotman | Sarnuial: it's not your fault |
| 22:29.52 | dondelelcaro | Sarnuial: not your fault; happens occasionally |
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| 22:30.21 | abrotman | nigihayami: do you know what you're not using the kernel that came with etch ? |
| 22:30.22 | Sarnuial | anyway... I think I'm probably going to go with stable+backports; I really don't like the potential of a work system breaking itself |
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| 22:30.41 | dondelelcaro | Sarnuial: yeah, that's generally the best approach. Only use backports for what you need, though. |
| 22:30.42 | Sarnuial | thank you guys very much |
| 22:30.46 | dondelelcaro | np |
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| 22:31.10 | nigihayami | abrotman: it is an arm based device and a company sent me to do some works for them |
| 22:31.25 | macrobat | mimiloon: there is hal. maybe that can disable touchpad |
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| 22:31.27 | Sarnuial | dondelelcaro: that's what I intend to do; it was only a couple packages being out-of-date that bugged me |
| 22:31.38 | nigihayami | I am sure it is debian but I dont have any clue why they don't use standard kernel |
| 22:31.54 | abrotman | oh .. well, you may want to ask them why they're not using the normal etch kernel (and also tell them that etch only has security updates for another six months or so) |
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| 22:32.50 | nigihayami | actually it is not a computer, even won't connected to the internet |
| 22:33.03 | nigihayami | but thanks I will talk with them |
| 22:33.39 | mimiloon | macrobat: hal?, let me check under preferences |
| 22:35.01 | abrotman | nigihayami: well, how were you thinking to get the driver source on the machine? |
| 22:35.24 | abrotman | nigihayami: the gspca has been mainline since 2.6.27 |
| 22:35.33 | nigihayami | abrotman: It is connected now |
| 22:35.38 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 22:35.48 | nigihayami | but wont be connected when it will be a product |
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| 22:36.24 | macrobat | mimiloon: i dont know exactly how to do it, but its like copying /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-input-policy.fdi to /etc and then plugging the usb mouse in and use lsusb to find stuff to put in that file |
| 22:36.26 | abrotman | but it will have a webcam ? |
| 22:36.36 | nigihayami | yes |
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| 22:37.02 | abrotman | sounds like the manuf should be shipping software to work with their hardware |
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| 22:37.28 | macrobat | mimiloon: there might be easier ways, maybe gsynaptics have an option |
| 22:37.51 | nigihayami | I don't know why they asked me install webcam driver but, I am pretty sure it wont be connected to the internet, maybe I they connect a subnet without routing to the net |
| 22:39.00 | mimiloon | macrobat: i'll look into that; i tried gsynaptics but when i try to run it, i get this error: GSynaptics couldn't initialize. |
| 22:39.00 | mimiloon | You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf or XF86Config to use GSynaptics |
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| 22:40.16 | abrotman | nigihayami: well, they gave you a kernel lacking the driver .. you'll need the source/headers to build one for it |
| 22:41.20 | macrobat | XF86Config? isnt that old as dust? |
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| 22:42.12 | mimiloon | macrobat: i tried editing it file but it screwed up my xorg file and couldn't boot (luckily i had created an image before i did anything) |
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| 22:44.34 | mimiloon | macrobat: after that, i didn't try gsynaptics |
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| 22:47.28 | macrobat | im not on my laptop right now and i dont remember how i confed my touchpad, sry |
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| 22:50.55 | mimiloon | macrobat: thanks anyways for your help |
| 22:51.56 | nsadmin | couldn't... boot? |
| 22:52.20 | nsadmin | booting and starting X have little to do with each other, just so you know :) |
| 22:52.45 | TrueDD | Gnight to all |
| 22:52.48 | nsadmin | specifically... if you see a text login prompt, you are booted fully |
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| 23:08.02 | simonrvn | why is this chan dead again? |
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| 23:09.42 | nsadmin | simonrvn: no one needs help? |
| 23:09.47 | johaBBa | i have an intel celeron that says i has intel 64-bit architecture. should i use the ia64 debian install? |
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| 23:10.10 | simonrvn | nsadmin: i always need help :P |
| 23:10.11 | johaBBa | or can amd64 do both intel and amd 64 bit? |
| 23:10.14 | pclark | johaBBa: no, you should use the amd64 |
| 23:10.23 | simonrvn | johaBBa: no. amd64. |
| 23:10.29 | johaBBa | ok thank you :) |
| 23:10.31 | mimiloon | simonrvn: it's dead because when ppl died, they didn't get resurrected yet, lol |
| 23:10.34 | simonrvn | !ia64 |
| 23:10.35 | dpkg | [ia64] (Intel Architecture-64), a 64-bit processor architecture developed in cooperation by Intel and Hewlett-Packard, implemented by processors such as Itanium and Itanium 2. The goal of Itanium was to produce a "post-RISC era" arch using EPIC. See http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/ -- if your CPU is opteron/athlon64/turion/sempron/xeon/em64t/pentium/core2duo/core*, then it is NOT ia64, it's <amd64>. |
| 23:10.42 | nsadmin | johaBBa: much more likely amd64 (ia64 is a fairly rare chip) |
| 23:10.49 | johaBBa | ah. itanium |
| 23:11.01 | johaBBa | thanks for the info guys |
| 23:11.13 | johaBBa | tonight i convert my wife from xp to debian :) |
| 23:11.25 | johaBBa | ...i think i'll keep her. |
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| 23:11.35 | nsadmin | good luck interfacing with her after her upgrade... |
| 23:11.45 | johaBBa | hehe |
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| 23:12.18 | simonrvn | s,i think,she thinks, s,i'll,she'll, s,her,you, |
| 23:12.23 | odla | how do i turn off the system beep in gnome-terminal and when gdm loads? |
| 23:12.48 | nsadmin | seriously... you want to do this? |
| 23:12.49 | abrotman | you can disable the system bell altogether ? |
| 23:13.17 | odla | abrotman: sure ... it annoys the heck out of me when i press tab and it beeps at me and when X loads into gdm |
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| 23:13.41 | abrotman | !tell odla about bell |
| 23:13.50 | simonrvn | ding-dong! |
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| 23:15.09 | nsadmin | johaBBa: in general when you exert influence to "convert" someone, there's an implied agreement to support unless you specifically disclaim that (not legally speaking, but personal expectation) |
| 23:15.36 | nsadmin | in your situation the best I can see is you're going to be present |
| 23:15.40 | odla | To disable the bell: "xset b off" in X, "setterm -blength 0" in console. <<< will that be remembers after i reboot again and will that stop gdm from beeping? |
| 23:15.41 | johaBBa | nsadmin, she's my wife. support is impled :) |
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| 23:15.50 | nsadmin | yes I understand that |
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| 23:16.42 | nsadmin | if you think you'll still get along in (say) 6 months (i.e., upgrade wouldn't cause massive fights etc), go for it |
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| 23:17.22 | nsadmin | of course, people equally experienced in both OSes probably find linux easier to maintain |
| 23:17.38 | johaBBa | ya, i've done windows support/admin/eng for 10 years. |
| 23:17.43 | johaBBa | linux for about 6 |
| 23:17.55 | johaBBa | certs in both. linux is way easier to deal with |
| 23:18.31 | nsadmin | so that's good for your part in this :) |
| 23:18.31 | johaBBa | i'll make it look like windows...and she won't have root. |
| 23:18.53 | johaBBa | no more virus issues |
| 23:19.10 | nsadmin | well you know the relationship Bill and Hillary Clinton had wrt their machine access... |
| 23:19.23 | nsadmin | Bill was prez@whitehouse.gov |
| 23:19.27 | johaBBa | no...? |
| 23:19.35 | nsadmin | Hillary was root@whitehouse.gov |
| 23:19.41 | johaBBa | lol |
| 23:20.16 | johaBBa | i fear the obamas are mac users |
| 23:20.29 | johaBBa | i dont have any facts just a bad feeling.. |
| 23:21.49 | abrotman | anyways ... |
| 23:22.28 | Sia- | gn8 and thnx for all |
| 23:22.32 | nsadmin | in the cases of both microsoft OSes (i.e., from msdos on) and linux, windowing system was afterthought... to this day (imo anyway), linux and graphical interface isn't connected very strongly |
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| 23:24.35 | nsadmin | in the case of macos from the beginning, graphical interface was the whole point... so more work (and especially human interface research) went into it |
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| 23:25.26 | nsadmin | don't get me wrong, I like my linux.... but I'm not sure I would if I didn't have a lot of experience with cli |
| 23:25.27 | AimHere | Of course it wasn't Apple who actually DID the research. They just took it from Xerox |
| 23:25.39 | zlobi | Hi |
| 23:25.42 | themill | points towards #debian-offtopic |
| 23:25.52 | zlobi | Debian latest official |
| 23:25.58 | zlobi | does not mount NTFS |
| 23:26.03 | zlobi | permissions |
| 23:26.29 | zlobi | so wt... |
| 23:26.29 | zlobi | fix :P |
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| 23:26.51 | nsadmin | zlobi not everything is installed on every debian... also, you might want to ignore your enter key more |
| 23:26.59 | zlobi | Hi |
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| 23:27.03 | zlobi | Debian latest official |
| 23:27.21 | abrotman | zlobi: less enter key please |
| 23:27.28 | nsadmin | also, you're repeating, with enters... what's up with that? |
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| 23:27.36 | zlobi | ok, will try |
| 23:27.43 | gnarface | nsadmin: dramatic presentation. even i want to kick him now |
| 23:27.45 | macrobat | zlobi: ntfs-3g |
| 23:28.05 | zlobi | This is because i was not sure there was smo, and with more enters more joining peeps would see me |
| 23:28.19 | zlobi | shortcut to shell? |
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| 23:28.33 | nsadmin | zlobi: that's an issue between yourself and the channel rules... |
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| 23:29.37 | nsadmin | I dunno, but you might consider reading them. another thing you might consider is complete sentences, and one sentence === one idea |
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| 23:30.16 | zlobi | ok, will explain in a long line. I guess the whole thing leads to RTFM. But all other distros mount my NTFS partitions, so the point of irc is to get instant help. Otherwise, it is like reading the manual. Like windows :) |
| 23:30.48 | azeem | zlobi: right, please read the manual |
| 23:30.58 | nsadmin | of course, you're always encouraged to read up. |
| 23:31.23 | bzip3 | zlobi, you disagree that the soluction is very simple? apt-get install ntfs-3g ? |
| 23:31.24 | simonrvn | instant help? |
| 23:31.48 | nsadmin | and likewise, you're always encouraged to use resources where humans are not involved, for example things already written |
| 23:31.58 | bzip3 | everyone has your ideia about what must have by default or no on a SO |
| 23:32.00 | kf | are you saying we are but a faster "man" ? |
| 23:32.26 | bzip3 | and MINE idea is that it must contais the minimal possible packages |
| 23:32.29 | nsadmin | kf: or a quicksmartboty |
| 23:32.56 | zlobi | I agree that for some tasks RTFM is needed. But only Debian does not auto-mount NTFS. In my humble user opinion, it looks like a bug. |
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| 23:33.14 | gnarface | zlobi: or a secure default |
| 23:33.20 | zlobi | I have read all during setup. Not my bad |
| 23:33.33 | bzip3 | so, i dont want ntfs-3g all the time. when i need, i can put it to work in less than 30 secs |
| 23:33.56 | kf | it does not automount ntfs even with the flag in ftab? |
| 23:34.02 | nsadmin | zlobi: install the package and be happy... you're given a solution already |
| 23:34.27 | zlobi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:35.18 | zlobi | The secure default might be done with a ? at setup |
| 23:35.31 | zlobi | Not needed in my environment |
| 23:36.11 | odla | how can i have gnome run a script when it loads a session so that it runs "xset b off" and "setterm -blength 0" |
| 23:36.43 | nsadmin | another argument against ntfs being installed in the base, it's a proprietary microsoft product, and ntfs-3g and the original ntfs drivers represent guess-based reverse engineering... microsoft can pull the rug out at any time |
| 23:37.15 | gnarface | odla: (someone check me here) add those lines to your ~/.xsession if you are using a graphical login or ~/.xinitrc if you're using startx |
| 23:37.20 | gnarface | i think |
| 23:37.52 | nsadmin | having said that, the guesses represented by ntfs-3g are said to be pretty good |
| 23:38.15 | odla | gnarface: i'll just try that ... i'll be back |
| 23:38.19 | gnarface | i've got an even better argument against it being in the base install - not *every* machine needs a network connection (gasp! i know, sacrilege!!) |
| 23:38.21 | zlobi | keyring just froze |
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| 23:39.18 | nsadmin | gnarface: at worst, lack of a connection is inconvenient :) |
| 23:39.39 | zlobi | And not only... Restarting, bye and thanks |
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| 23:40.13 | odla | that didn't work (in ~/.xsession |
| 23:40.33 | gnarface | odla: you probably have to stop/start your login manager |
| 23:40.54 | gnarface | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.01 | gnarface | or whatever the equivalent is for the gnome one |
| 23:41.02 | odla | gnarface: i killed X and then it wouldn't let me log back into gnome |
| 23:41.11 | odla | gnarface: it complained about my .xsession file |
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| 23:41.17 | gnarface | odla: pastebin it |
| 23:41.21 | gnarface | and the error |
| 23:41.23 | odla | ok one sec |
| 23:42.04 | nsadmin | odla: put this in your .xsession: touch $HOME/hello-xsess-$$ |
| 23:42.27 | nsadmin | then look in your home dir after you restart and log in |
| 23:42.39 | gnarface | my guess is he just needs to put "exec" before the lines |
| 23:42.50 | nsadmin | only the last one |
| 23:42.57 | gnarface | i don't really use graphical login managers much so i'm not hip on them |
| 23:43.10 | nsadmin | which should be the one that sticks |
| 23:43.10 | gnarface | the .xinitrc will behave like a bash script |
| 23:43.29 | gnarface | but if he's not using gdm hell if i know |
| 23:43.43 | gnarface | i have only actually tried xdm and entrance myself |
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| 23:45.40 | odla | gnarface: http://pastebin.ca/1613874 |
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| 23:45.44 | nsadmin | the way .xsession works... is it's a way to start clients and maybe do other things; it's a shell script. what makes it special is, the PID of it is watched. when it disappears (by telling it to quit, most likely), the session is considered done and the X server stops |
| 23:45.51 | gnarface | oh incidentally, that reminds me... anyone play around much with the e17 package on debian sid lately? i hadn't looked into it for a long time and at first glance it looks like candy and its freakin' fast |
| 23:46.16 | nsadmin | so the last thing run (in the old days this would be a window manager), you |
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| 23:46.36 | nsadmin | would exec that, and the system will wait for it to die, then ending the session |
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| 23:47.10 | odla | gnarface: ^^^ |
| 23:47.21 | gnarface | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:47.42 | nsadmin | well you're not in a terminal environment |
| 23:47.48 | odla | gnarface: fresh install of lenny |
| 23:47.58 | gnarface | odla: what about the .xsession file itself? |
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| 23:48.13 | odla | gnarface: all i had in it were those two commands |
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| 23:48.43 | odla | xset b off setterm -blength 0 |
| 23:48.52 | nsadmin | so it runs, completes, and since it completes, the session dies |
| 23:48.55 | odla | it's freaking annoying though every single app is beeping at me |
| 23:49.13 | nsadmin | howbout married apps? :) |
| 23:49.19 | gnarface | hah |
| 23:50.10 | gnarface | so he just needs to add his window manager as the last line? |
| 23:50.14 | CodeNinja | if I have eth1 192.168.2.149 255.255.255.0, and I add eth1:1 192.168.2.148 255.255.255.0, can I set apache to listen on both, 192.168.2.149 for http, 192.168.2.148 for https? secondly, if I can do this, whats the maximum amount of eth1:x sets I can make? |
| 23:50.39 | nsadmin | or the gnome startup thing if he's running gnome |
| 23:50.44 | nsadmin | and exec it |
| 23:50.50 | nsadmin | otherwise... |
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| 23:51.01 | gnarface | CodeNinja: over 9000 |
| 23:51.03 | nsadmin | err wait, |
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| 23:51.15 | CodeNinja | gnarface: :O |
| 23:51.19 | odla | add "exec gnome-session" ? |
| 23:51.48 | nsadmin | so if you don't exec it but you backround it, it will start it, the script will exit and the session will die as a result |
| 23:51.53 | gnarface | CodeNinja: no you can't though you need a unique IP address or at least a unique port # for every SSL-enabled virtual host. for the non-SSL ones you can stack them on the same port and ip and just use name-based vhosting |
| 23:52.10 | macrobat | how can i set an emacs color theme in the .emacs file? #emacs doesn't know. (color-theme-gnome2) doesn't work |
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| 23:52.58 | CodeNinja | gnarface: correct, the 192.168.2.140-192.168.2.148 will each be for their own ssl connections, hence why I as asking if i can add x extra IP's to accomplish this |
| 23:53.04 | nsadmin | if you don't exec it and you put it in the foreground (no &), then the original pid will spawn the new pid and wait for it to die... so that wouild work but you waste a pid for the time it's up |
| 23:53.13 | gnarface | macrobat: emacs has built-in customization tools that auto-append color settings to you your ~/.emacs file i recommend you check into them they're much more useful for people who don't know LISP |
| 23:53.36 | nsadmin | if you -do- exec it, it will take over the original pid |
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| 23:54.21 | nsadmin | that is, the wm will -replace- the shell that's running the .xsession |
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| 23:54.41 | nsadmin | which is the usual way to go about it |
| 23:54.45 | gnarface | CodeNinja: then yes it does that. you have to set up your virtual hosts to not be name based though, ie you can't use *:80 on each opening <VirtualHost... tag, you have to match each ip address manually to its appropriate vhost. i've done this with at least dozens.... i'm sure there is a limit but its probably well beyond your hardware's capacity to actually SERVE all those sites |
| 23:54.55 | odla | also my beeping isn't caused by 'pcspkr' unfortunately ... so blacklisting that does nothign |
| 23:55.13 | macrobat | gnarface: i cant find anything useful in the menu :) |
| 23:55.38 | nsadmin | odla: you might put your ears to the speakers and see if the beep is coming from that |
| 23:55.43 | gnarface | gnarface: the menu is useless, start with M-x customize |
| 23:55.46 | gnarface | woops |
| 23:55.54 | gnarface | macrobat:^^^ |
| 23:56.10 | CodeNinja | gnarface: :) I've got name vhost 192.168.2.149:80, will be adding the 192.168.2.140-148:443 sets tonight, I'm assuming I don't need to do any extra craziness beyond that from what I've read so far, am I correct? |
| 23:56.40 | odla | nsadmin: yes it is but it's a laptop ... don't know if that matters |
| 23:56.53 | gnarface | CodeNinja: as long as the ip aliases all show up when you run ifconfig, then no, not as far as I can r ecall |
| 23:57.31 | CodeNinja | :) supah, I already had one interface setup but I was sketchy on the details of both the alias and the vhosts working together |
| 23:57.33 | nsadmin | odla: probably the beep sound is going thru the sound driver (alsa likely) |
| 23:57.38 | littlebear | here's something interesting : my debian lenny has two user accounts. the default user account gets sound, the second account (created today, or maybe i'd have noticed earlier) reports that it cannot open the sound device. i'm beginning to wonder if this is a perms issue...what do i check? |
| 23:58.02 | odla | nsadmin: do you know how i can write a script at start up to run those two commands? |
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| 23:58.48 | CodeNinja | littlebear: check to make sure that your second user is in almost the same groups as the first |
| 23:58.51 | gnarface | littlebear: "default" as in "root"?? |
| 23:59.10 | CodeNinja | gnarface: I think he means the initial account at install thats created for you |
| 23:59.24 | odla | nsadmin: oh i think i got it ... i muted it in alsamixer |
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| 23:59.44 | odla | goes to log out and log back in to check |
