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| 00:00.12 | mhall | mase_wk: I am the network level. :-D I am developing a Linux based firewall device. |
| 00:00.21 | mase_wk | mhall: i meant the router |
| 00:00.29 | mhall | mase_wk: I am the router / firewall device. |
| 00:00.47 | mhall | mase_wk: So we have an old device running in the car factory, we want to replace with the one I am developing. |
| 00:01.00 | Xenguy | mee: thanks for your feedback again; it does seem like it could be a longshot, but I've never tried it before |
| 00:01.04 | abrotman | Andorin: apt-cache search flv convert ? |
| 00:01.05 | mhall | mase_wk: But I need a way to enable and disable interfaces rapidly without losing their IP configuration. |
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| 00:01.26 | mhall | mase_wk: If I just mark them down with ifconfig, when they come back, all the IP configuration is gone. |
| 00:01.29 | Andorin | abrotman: Would ffmpeg do it? |
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| 00:01.40 | abrotman | !tias |
| 00:01.40 | dpkg | TIAS is "Try It And See"... or what you could have done first. |
| 00:01.43 | streuner | .oO (the great mhall joined us) |
| 00:01.49 | Xenguy | wonders if anyone here has ever cloned a drive from, say, an AMD box, then put it in a different, say, Intel box *and had it work* :-) ? |
| 00:01.55 | mhall | mase_wk: So I am hoping perhaps there is some ioctl I can call to bring them down, without making their IP config disappear. |
| 00:01.56 | mase_wk | mhall: so putting it in the interfaces file doesn't work ? |
| 00:02.03 | mhall | Xenguy: It will work if you have a generic kernel |
| 00:02.26 | mhall | Xenguy: Because when it reboots it autoprobes the CPU type and drivers and loads the right ones. |
| 00:02.33 | mhall | Xenguy: It will NOT work in Windows though. |
| 00:02.45 | abrotman | mhall: no, it may not .. it might |
| 00:02.56 | Xenguy | mhall: which I do :-) Thanks to you, and to debian/linux ;-) |
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| 00:03.28 | mhall | Xenguy: Yeah it should be cool then, I have moved Linux between boxes using various methods and it ran OK. |
| 00:04.00 | mhall | Xenguy: Just this week I was compiling a Debian 2.6.20 kernel source tbz2 on P4 box and running it on a Core 2 Duo with no problem, as long as the right drivers are enabled. |
| 00:04.09 | Xenguy | mhall: when I say 'generic', I mean stock debian kernel BTW |
| 00:04.16 | mhall | Xenguy: I have also done moves between AMD and Intel using ghost, partimage, etc. |
| 00:04.23 | mhall | Xenguy: Yeah it works fine with the stock kenrel. |
| 00:04.42 | mhall | Xenguy: The stock one is used during the install because it supports almost all HW |
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| 00:05.16 | mhall | Xenguy: Only thing that might happen is you have to tweak the root option of grub/lilo and fstab file, if the disk controller is lined up a little different |
| 00:05.29 | mhall | Xenguy: if you have a Live CD, or a Knoppix, or something, that will do the job |
| 00:06.01 | mhall | Xenguy: then it should be cool |
| 00:06.05 | Xenguy | mhall: I have a 'systemrescuecd' which seems to have most of the good tools |
| 00:06.35 | mhall | mase_wk: yeah it's too slow using interfaces file or ifupdown |
| 00:07.16 | mhall | Xenguy: that will work as long as it's got 'vi' or preferred editor (i hate vi) |
| 00:07.23 | mhall | streuner: I know, I'm here, crazy eh? |
| 00:07.35 | Xenguy | mhall: OK I'm going to give it a shot then. BTW since you're here, I have an article that gives instructions on using 'dd' and then 'parted' to resize the partition. If there a better/easier way to do this that you know of (I notice you mention 'ghost' above) ? |
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| 00:08.03 | streuner | mhall: nah, its ok |
| 00:08.06 | mhall | Xenguy: Ghost is commercial |
| 00:08.33 | Xenguy | mhall: oh, as in Norton Ghost, OK |
| 00:08.35 | mhall | Xenguy: Parted and dd should be alright |
| 00:08.42 | mhall | Xenguy: or G4L Ghost 4 Linux |
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| 00:08.48 | mhall | Xenguy: or partimage is another option |
| 00:09.08 | Xenguy | mhall: I checked for g4l earlier but it doesn't seem to be in debian/stable |
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| 00:09.17 | mhall | Xenguy: I am not totally sure what is best. Personally I tried Ghost, PartitionMagic, both commercial, and G4L. |
| 00:09.29 | mhall | Xenguy: I think you can DL a G4L boot disk |
| 00:09.35 | mhall | Xenguy: then it runs its own linux |
| 00:09.43 | mhall | Xenguy: and you don't have to install a package to run it |
| 00:09.51 | Xenguy | mhall: OK |
| 00:10.31 | Xenguy | mhall: I don't know about tweaking GRUB though, but I guess I'll cross that bridge if and when I come to it |
| 00:10.42 | mhall | Xenguy: not too bad |
| 00:10.50 | mhall | Xenguy: might have to change the root partition |
| 00:11.00 | mhall | Xenguy: easiest way to do it is, if it doesn't boot after the move |
| 00:11.23 | mhall | Xenguy: boot to rescue CD, then chroot into the / directory of your HD's linux |
| 00:11.29 | mase_wk | on the debian init scripts, what determines the number in S30squid for example |
| 00:11.43 | mhall | Xenguy: then edit the root=/dev/... option in menu.lst |
| 00:12.02 | mhall | Xenguy: and run /usr/sbin/update-grub |
| 00:12.17 | mhall | Xenguy: then when grub reboots the root FS option will be right |
| 00:12.37 | mhall | Xenguy: after that, you might get some other boot errors once the kernel loads, that it cannot mount some of your FSes |
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| 00:12.45 | mhall | Xenguy: if that happens just make sure fstab is right |
| 00:13.01 | mhall | Xenguy: you can find the correct device names with fdisk -l |
| 00:13.13 | mhall | Xenguy: fdisk -l /dev/hda (or sda or whatever it is) |
| 00:13.48 | Xenguy | mhall: wow, very nice, thanks again :-) I better capture the info before it scrolls away |
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| 00:19.01 | mudsplatter | hello |
| 00:19.18 | mudsplatter | so does any one know how to disable the touchpad click |
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| 00:22.19 | arand | Hello, if I want to put a hex string in the password="" field in wpa_supplicant.conf Do I have to indicate it in some way? Or are password="pw" and password="7077" equivalent? |
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| 00:23.01 | milian | how does one change the default xsession for _new_ users? |
| 00:23.12 | streuner | arand: what way do you use to connect via wireless? |
| 00:23.12 | Andorin | Are VLC and Totem supposed to crash when I try to play a .flv file? |
| 00:23.19 | mudsplatter | no |
| 00:23.27 | mudsplatter | vlc works 4 me |
| 00:23.39 | Andorin | they just die when I try. |
| 00:23.50 | Andorin | Looking for a tool to convert .flv to something else. |
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| 00:24.31 | milian | Andorin: mencoder? |
| 00:24.41 | arand | streuner:key_mgmt=WPA-EAP eap=TTLS and phase2="auth=PAP" manual connection using ifupdown (and dhclient) |
| 00:25.22 | Xenguy | Andorin: clive ? |
| 00:25.28 | adb | Andorin, try mplayer |
| 00:25.28 | streuner | arand: well, why are you need to alter wpa_supplicant then? |
| 00:25.41 | streuner | s/are/do/ |
| 00:25.54 | Andorin | Xenguy: Trying clive, and so far it's not doing what I want. It gets me the video, and encodes it in .flv, but I can't figure out how to get it to change the format. |
| 00:26.02 | streuner | arend: interfaces is enough |
| 00:26.22 | arand | streuner: huh? in what way? |
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| 00:26.31 | streuner | to connect via wireless? |
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| 00:26.50 | arand | streuner: yes, and network manager blankly refuses. |
| 00:27.10 | streuner | forget NM |
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| 00:28.47 | arand | Have done, this is my current working setup (using ifup & dhclient to start): http://pastebin.com/m10f3899f |
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| 00:29.20 | streuner | arand: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
| 00:29.35 | streuner | arand: just take a look at the wiki, its well explained... |
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| 00:31.02 | hobophobe | Lately when I log out and back in the audio is turned all the way down, but it's different depending on user (one has just the front volume down, the other has master and front volume down plus front muted). What determines that/how to keep sane volume levels persisting between logins? |
| 00:31.43 | hobophobe | specifically it's the alsa volumes that are being changed on login |
| 00:32.02 | neoalex | hi I'm getting an postinst script error when installing dash 0.5.5.1-2.3 amd64 |
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| 00:32.27 | neoalex | dpkg: error processing dash (--configure): |
| 00:32.27 | neoalex | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.27 | dpkg | neoalex: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 00:32.50 | streuner | judd, versions dash |
| 00:32.51 | judd | streuner: dash -- etch: 0.5.3-7 lenny: 0.5.4-12 sid: 0.5.5.1-3 squeeze: 0.5.5.1-3 |
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| 00:34.12 | arand | streuner: yea, but I think the certificate file needs to be specified in the wpa_supplicant.conf? hence my need for it... |
| 00:34.45 | abrotman | neoalex: did you check the BTS? |
| 00:35.32 | neoalex | abrotman, BTS? |
| 00:36.06 | abrotman | neoalex: you're running unstable? |
| 00:36.12 | neoalex | yes |
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| 00:36.16 | arand | streuner: and that wiki unfortunately does not say anything about how to use hex in wpa_supplicant either... |
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| 00:37.23 | streuner | arand: well, i didnt need to change something in wpa_supplicant in order to connect via wireless... |
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| 00:38.31 | dondelelcaro | !bts |
| 00:38.31 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
| 00:38.35 | dondelelcaro | neoalex: see above. |
| 00:39.24 | Andorin | .flv files are a HUGE problem in this system. VLC and Totem crash when I try to play them. gxine plays the audio but not the video. Help? |
| 00:39.34 | Stargazer | How do i connect to a samba server via windows ? |
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| 00:40.26 | arand | How are one to interpret this?: "password: Password string for EAP. This field can include either the plaintext password (using ASCII or hex string)" Does it mean that password="1" (ASCII) is the exact equivalent of password="31" (hex)? |
| 00:40.46 | streuner | Androin: file <some .flv> |
| 00:41.38 | streuner | Andoin: file <some .flv> |
| 00:41.49 | streuner | Andorin: ^^^ |
| 00:41.52 | Andorin | Yeah. |
| 00:41.55 | Andorin | Macromedia Flash video |
| 00:42.25 | streuner | do you have flash installed? |
| 00:42.33 | Andorin | I should. H/o |
| 00:42.38 | Andorin | ....yes. I do. |
| 00:42.46 | streuner | Andorin: what kind of branch, unstable? |
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| 00:43.14 | Andorin | streuner: 5.0.3. Stable. |
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| 00:43.42 | streuner | and both of them crashes, hm, that makes no sense to me |
| 00:43.43 | neoalex | dondelelcaro, I couldn't find anything in BTS, might be too new |
| 00:43.58 | Andorin | Me either. |
| 00:44.23 | Andorin | You asked me if I have Flash installed. Define "Flash." Maybe I need something special to view flash videos out of a browser. |
| 00:45.05 | streuner | well, a videoplayer is usually able to show a .flv file |
| 00:45.49 | streuner | Andorin: /msg dpkg flash |
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| 00:47.03 | Andorin | streuner: Doesn't help. |
| 00:47.16 | Andorin | I have Gnash on here already, /and/ I'm pretty sure I have Adobe's non-free plugin. |
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| 00:50.25 | dondelelcaro | neoalex: pastebin the error |
| 00:50.48 | dondelelcaro | (that'll let us see what is going on) |
| 00:51.41 | Andorin | I'm just going to try getting the newest VLC's source. You'd really think something more recent would be in the backports. |
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| 00:52.44 | streuner | Andorin: if you using youtube-dl <some video> and try to see that in your videoplayer, does it work then? |
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| 00:52.58 | neoalex | dondelelcaro, http://pastie.org/653799 |
| 00:53.02 | Andorin | streuner: Let me install youtube-dl first. |
| 00:53.16 | streuner | (maybe its a format which isnt supported in Linux) |
| 00:53.48 | Andorin | youtube-dl is not in the repos. |
| 00:53.59 | streuner | but that doesnt explain why both videoplayers crashed |
| 00:54.14 | streuner | judd, versions youtube-dl |
| 00:54.15 | judd | streuner: youtube-dl -- sid: 2008.03.22-1 |
| 00:54.18 | Andorin | Oh, and fyi, gxine plays the audio but not the video. |
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| 00:55.06 | streuner | Andorin: /msg dpkg ssb |
| 00:55.11 | dondelelcaro | neoalex: uh... that's not a verison of dash which we even distribute anymore |
| 00:55.33 | dondelelcaro | neoalex: upgrade to at least 0.5.5.1-3 |
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| 00:55.57 | dondelelcaro | judd, versions dash |
| 00:55.57 | judd | dondelelcaro: dash -- etch: 0.5.3-7 lenny: 0.5.4-12 sid: 0.5.5.1-3 squeeze: 0.5.5.1-3 |
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| 00:58.16 | Andorin | streuner: What URL would I add to my sources.list to install something from sid? |
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| 00:58.34 | neoalex | well that's what aptitude got for me, should I just download and install the package manually? |
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| 00:58.39 | streuner | !simple sid backport |
| 00:58.39 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 00:59.05 | Andorin | Yeah, see? |
| 00:59.18 | streuner | deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib |
| 00:59.55 | streuner | ftp.<TD>.debian.org * |
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| 01:02.22 | abrotman | neoalex: put the output of `aptitude update && apt-cache policy dash` in a pastebin |
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| 01:04.26 | Andorin | Now the deb installer is crashing when I try to install the .deb!! |
| 01:04.50 | streuner | hm, that makes almost sense then |
| 01:05.07 | iluminator101 | How do i cut off last digit in MS excel in a column? |
| 01:05.30 | Andorin | what? |
| 01:05.48 | streuner | everything crahes, that not normal |
| 01:05.54 | streuner | thats* |
| 01:06.13 | streuner | even on a stable Debian system |
| 01:06.26 | streuner | it might be a RAM issue |
| 01:06.29 | Andorin | Hang on, I used gdeb instead of the gdebi thing and now it worked. |
| 01:06.40 | Andorin | Okay, youtube-dl is installed. |
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| 01:07.34 | neoalex | abrotman, dondelelcaro: ok it seems I was out of date, I did upgrade to 0.5.5.1-3 and I get the same error with that version as well: |
| 01:07.39 | neoalex | http://pastie.org/653814 |
| 01:08.46 | Andorin | Oh, and I would compile the newest VLC, but I get an error. http://pastebin.com/d2387290c |
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| 01:08.56 | mase_wk | streuner: grab memtest i reckon |
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| 01:09.34 | sepult | which package does /sbin/start-stop-daemon belong to ? |
| 01:09.43 | Andorin | Oh... I tried running VLC from command line at one point and it dropped an error message. It thought that there was insufficient resources. Maybe that's what you mean, streuner? |
| 01:09.48 | dondelelcaro | sepult: dpkg -S sbin/start-stop-daemon is your friend |
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| 01:10.17 | dondelelcaro | neoalex: edit /var/lib/dpkg/info/dash.postinst and add a set -x to the top (right below the set -e) |
| 01:10.25 | dondelelcaro | neoalex: then rerun dpkg --configure -a |
| 01:10.26 | shadowless_egg | alright can anyone confirm i did this right? |
| 01:10.26 | sepult | dondelelcaro: i tried that with no result, however another dpkg instance is running i assume, cause i started aptitude somewhere else that's why i ask here |
| 01:10.47 | dondelelcaro | sepult: what is the exact command that you ran? |
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| 01:11.20 | sepult | dondelelcaro: dpkg -S /sbin/start-stop-daemon |
| 01:11.25 | shadowless_egg | i went to a friend's house to try and make a bootable debian installer usb |
| 01:11.37 | sepult | dondelelcaro: /sbin/start-stop-daemon seems to be a script which just echoes "fake start-stop-daemon called" or so |
| 01:11.41 | dondelelcaro | sepult: compare the command I suggested; there is no leading / |
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| 01:12.02 | Andorin | streuner: youtube-dl works and grabs me the video, but it's still a .flv and I still can't play it. |
| 01:12.02 | sepult | dondelelcaro: there is another /sbin/start-stop-daemon.REAL which is a LSB32 executable though |
| 01:12.10 | qtqt | If I want a Xinerama-like setup on 3 heads, 2 graphics cards, what are my options? This used to work before the xrandr upgrades but now my old xorg.conf's will just crash X. Not sure what I'm supposed to change. |
| 01:12.15 | dondelelcaro | sepult: then something has diverted it |
| 01:12.24 | shadowless_egg | what i did was format it as a unix file system (with mac os 9 driver) and copied the contents of boot.img to it |
| 01:12.26 | sepult | dondelelcaro: services don't start here because of that script, i had to manually use that REAL thing to start my kde |
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| 01:12.36 | shadowless_egg | and then added the iso to it |
| 01:12.38 | Roller-ch | Hi! My name is Andrew! As you know we have in Russia is thriving social network vkontakte! |
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| 01:12.41 | dondelelcaro | sepult: dpkg-divert --list; will show what is doing it |
| 01:12.43 | shadowless_egg | will it work? |
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| 01:12.53 | sepult | dondelelcaro: i looked in the diversion table, there is nothing mentioned which points to it |
| 01:13.21 | sepult | dondelelcaro: i even looked for a dpkg-statoverride --list thing with no luck |
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| 01:13.33 | shadowless_egg | waits |
| 01:13.36 | dondelelcaro | sepult: it's not in stat override; it's a diversion. |
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| 01:13.48 | sepult | dondelelcaro: ok but it's not listed with it |
| 01:14.04 | sepult | dondelelcaro: i ran dpkg-divert --list|grep -i start-stop |
| 01:14.09 | sepult | dondelelcaro: no output |
| 01:14.31 | dondelelcaro | sepult: it may not be actually registered as one, in which case you probably installed using debootstrap or cdebbostrap and forgot to remove the package which puts that in place |
| 01:14.47 | sepult | dondelelcaro: oh my |
| 01:14.49 | dondelelcaro | forgets the name, but it's pretty obvious if you examine the dpkg -l output |
| 01:14.53 | sepult | dondelelcaro: that could have happened |
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| 01:15.45 | dondelelcaro | (search for packages installed which match cdebootstrap, FE) |
| 01:15.48 | sepult | dondelelcaro: shall i manually add it to the diversion table ? |
| 01:15.53 | sepult | dondelelcaro: then remove ?? |
| 01:16.01 | dondelelcaro | sepult: no, you just remove that helper package. |
| 01:16.01 | sepult | dondelelcaro: will that solve it ? |
| 01:16.10 | dondelelcaro | it's not actually a diversion |
| 01:16.18 | sepult | dondelelcaro: helper ? |
| 01:16.26 | sepult | dondelelcaro: which helper package is it ? |
| 01:16.45 | sepult | dondelelcaro: ok i'll have a look as soon as possible |
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| 01:16.51 | dondelelcaro | sepult: it depends on how you installed, and I don't remember the exact name. |
| 01:16.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | I didn't get all that - but would "apt-file search start-stop-daemon" help you? |
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| 01:17.03 | dondelelcaro | sepult: you can always just reinstall dpkg, too, which should override it |
| 01:17.30 | dondelelcaro | CutMeOwnThroat: it's part of dpkg, but it's been diverted by one of the debootstrap or cdebootstrap "don't ever execute init scripts" helpers |
| 01:17.42 | dondelelcaro | (well, semi-diverted) |
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| 01:18.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah... but I thought apt-file would list those for him, too |
| 01:18.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | on my 32bit system it's only dpkg |
| 01:18.18 | dondelelcaro | only if they're in a package |
| 01:18.44 | dondelelcaro | (which they aren't actually, because that would mean conflicting with dpkg, and insuing insanity) |
| 01:19.42 | sepult | dondelelcaro: but installing dpkg..., would that not purge all my availabe status etc... files ? |
| 01:19.48 | sepult | dondelelcaro: overwrite ? |
| 01:24.06 | neoalex | dondelelcaro, done: http://pastie.org/653826 |
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| 01:25.59 | sepult | dondelelcaro: i will just rename that script and make the .REAL one the known start-stop-daemon |
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| 01:28.13 | sepult | aaaahhhahahhahah |
| 01:28.20 | sepult | that's hilarious |
| 01:28.29 | sepult | just renaming worked |
| 01:28.39 | jpinx-eeepc | what's the replacement in lenny for windows users that are used to Ares? |
| 01:29.15 | abrotman | neoalex: how is it going ? |
| 01:29.20 | abrotman | jpinx-eeepc: which is ? |
| 01:29.41 | neoalex | abrotman, done: http://pastie.org/653826 |
| 01:29.43 | markybob | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:29.44 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: some kind of automatice search and download thing for music |
| 01:29.45 | Stargazer | How do i connect to a samba server via windows ? |
| 01:29.55 | abrotman | jpinx-eeepc: download from where? |
| 01:29.57 | markybob | jpinx-eeepc, this isnt #breakthelaw |
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| 01:30.17 | Xenguy | mee: hi - are you still around? I read through this article (about cloning drives with dd and qtparted), and a question came to mind: How does one deal with the 'swap' partition? Does that have to be dd'd also, or does one just use 'fdisk' to handle the swap? (The article focusses on an NTFS partition, and so didn't mention the swap issue). Just wondering how you handled swap when you did this? |
| 01:30.39 | shadowless_egg | what i did was format it as a unix file system (with mac os 9 driver) and copied the contents of boot.img to it then added the iso to it |
| 01:30.47 | shadowless_egg | will it work? |
| 01:31.12 | jpinx-eeepc | will have to go and find out what Ares really is.... |
| 01:31.12 | woshty | Stargazer: \\IP\share |
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| 01:31.39 | abrotman | neoalex: dpkg-reconfigure dash ? |
| 01:32.03 | Stargazer | Woshty, i've tried that but i must have named my share something weird because idk what it is. |
| 01:32.23 | neoalex | abrotman, /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: dash is broken or not fully installed |
| 01:32.35 | Stargazer | Is there a way to find out what the name is, woshty ? |
| 01:32.57 | woshty | Stargazer: just \\IP\ |
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| 01:33.16 | woshty | woshty: if you have not disabled browsing |
| 01:33.22 | woshty | ??? |
| 01:33.31 | Stargazer | Lol |
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| 01:34.25 | abrotman | neoalex: moment |
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| 01:35.23 | shadowless_egg | what i did was format it as a unix file system (with mac os 9 driver) and copied the contents of boot.img to it then added the iso to it |
| 01:35.27 | shadowless_egg | will it work? |
| 01:35.40 | shadowless_egg | im trying to load debian via usb stick |
| 01:36.09 | abrotman | neoalex: cp /var/cache/debconf/config.dat /var/cache/debconf/config.dat.10132009 |
| 01:36.31 | Stargazer | Shadowless_egg: i used: http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Boot_Debian_from_an_USB_device (((but not with the same wget links))) |
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| 01:37.03 | shadowless_egg | will it work? |
| 01:37.19 | abrotman | neoalex: http://paste.debian.net/49053/ .. put those five lines at the bottom of your /var/cache/debconf/config.dat .. and then paste the last 10 lines of that file in a pastebin |
| 01:37.22 | Stargazer | That's the one i used for my usb install... |
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| 01:37.31 | abrotman | neoalex: don't forget the blank line before that stanza |
| 01:38.27 | shadowless_egg | stargazer: how would i do this on windows |
| 01:38.33 | shadowless_egg | i cant use unetbootin |
| 01:38.38 | markybob | wtf |
| 01:38.41 | shadowless_egg | and i cannot use dd for windows |
| 01:38.45 | Stargazer | Uhh |
| 01:38.50 | shadowless_egg | or at least on mac osx |
| 01:38.57 | Stargazer | Use VBox ? |
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| 01:39.01 | shadowless_egg | cause i'll just stop by my friend's house |
| 01:39.05 | shadowless_egg | vbox? |
| 01:39.07 | shadowless_egg | no no no |
| 01:39.11 | Stargazer | VirtualBox. |
| 01:39.13 | Stargazer | ? |
| 01:39.23 | shadowless_egg | the system im trying to install it on is broken |
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| 01:39.35 | Stargazer | And the system you are using |
| 01:39.36 | Stargazer | ? |
| 01:39.44 | shadowless_egg | i am using windows now |
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| 01:39.52 | Stargazer | Then use VirtualBox. |
| 01:39.56 | shadowless_egg | no |
| 01:40.03 | shadowless_egg | im trying to isntall debian on the borken machine |
| 01:40.06 | mee | Xenguy: swap doesn't matter -- you can dd it or just create a new one |
| 01:40.11 | shadowless_egg | install* |
| 01:40.15 | Stargazer | -sigh- |
| 01:40.25 | neoalex | abrotman, I already have lines 1, 2, and 4 in there should I add to that section or add a new section at the bottom |
| 01:40.26 | Bohemian | can someone help me use gparted with the debian livecd for resizing a partition? |
| 01:40.34 | shadowless_egg | just give me instructions on how to do it on a mac |
| 01:40.34 | mee | Xenguy: I'd make it the same size to be safe, but I don't actually know for sure that it matters |
| 01:40.37 | shadowless_egg | using terminal |
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| 01:40.41 | markybob | Stargazer, give up. |
| 01:40.46 | Stargazer | Shadowless_egg, use VBox for a temporary instal of debian or some other linux system and use it to make the usb net install stick. |
| 01:41.04 | shadowless_egg | i shall not do that |
| 01:41.13 | neoalex | abrotman, actually here's my current config.dat |
| 01:41.15 | markybob | shadowless_egg, then go away. if you wont take advice, leave |
| 01:41.18 | shadowless_egg | i know there's a way to do it with dd |
| 01:41.20 | markybob | shadowless_egg, we care not |
| 01:41.21 | neoalex | abrotman, http://pastie.org/653849 |
| 01:41.26 | Stargazer | Shadowless_egg, does this broken system have a CD drive ? |
| 01:41.31 | shadowless_egg | nope |
| 01:41.45 | shadowless_egg | that got broken when trying to unbreak the broken system |
| 01:41.50 | shadowless_egg | >_> |
| 01:41.53 | Stargazer | Explain ? :3 |
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| 01:42.09 | shadowless_egg | i got an old computer from someone |
| 01:42.25 | markybob | fascinating |
| 01:42.28 | shadowless_egg | i tried to upgrade it to 10.4 but it failed when most the file system was already replaced |
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| 01:42.50 | shadowless_egg | being unable to reboot into any os at all i tried to get the cd out |
| 01:42.55 | markybob | shadowless_egg, does this look like #machelp ? |
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| 01:43.02 | shadowless_egg | unable to do so and broke the cd drive |
| 01:43.07 | shadowless_egg | im just explaining it |
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| 01:43.17 | Stargazer | Pm me. |
| 01:43.17 | markybob | you are the troll of all trolls. seriously, go away |
| 01:43.19 | shadowless_egg | i want to install debian on it |
| 01:43.35 | tuxG | hi |
| 01:43.36 | abrotman | neoalex: you were supposed to put it at the end |
| 01:43.52 | abrotman | neoalex: and include all the lines i pasted |
| 01:44.12 | abrotman | neoalex: paste the last 20 lines when you are done |
| 01:44.35 | tuxG | i have some troubles with my internet connexion on debian |
| 01:45.07 | tuxG | i use ppp |
| 01:45.41 | abrotman | pppconfig ? |
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| 01:46.04 | Xenguy | mee: thanks again |
| 01:46.05 | tuxG | the configuration is done |
| 01:46.29 | tuxG | but the speed don't reach my full speed |
| 01:47.08 | optraz | hi, how do i setup multiple interfaces with different mac address so they could get ip from a dhcp server? |
| 01:47.27 | tuxG | i try it with a l ive-cd and everything is fine |
| 01:47.41 | tuxG | ? |
| 01:48.19 | markybob | optraz, dude, what? each network card (aka interface) has it's own mac address |
| 01:48.40 | abrotman | optraz: just set all your virtual interfaces to dhcp |
| 01:49.05 | optraz | abrotman: any software that does that? |
| 01:49.11 | abrotman | vi ? |
| 01:49.16 | abrotman | what's so complicated about it? |
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| 01:49.24 | markybob | apparently it's sunday |
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| 01:49.54 | abrotman | super-sunday? |
| 01:50.35 | optraz | abrotman: by editing /etc/network/interfaces, creating multiple vitual interfaces with a single interface? |
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| 01:52.52 | Stargazer | What would normally be the username/pass for a samba system on Debian |
| 01:53.29 | markybob | Stargazer, whatever you create using smbpass |
| 01:55.06 | abrotman | optraz: sure .. is that too hard? |
| 01:55.16 | Stargazer | Markybob, i installed samba when i installed debian. D: |
| 01:55.30 | markybob | Stargazer, and? |
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| 01:56.05 | Stargazer | I didn't really see a 'set samba pass now' |
| 01:56.37 | markybob | Stargazer, there isnt a samba pass. you have to manually create samba users, and their pass |
| 01:56.56 | Stargazer | Oh... well that would explain a few things.. |
| 01:57.05 | markybob | Stargazer, go read a tutorial |
| 01:57.12 | Stargazer | Got a good link ? |
| 01:57.25 | Tramp | optraz: well, that won't get you different MACs and thus most likely not multiple dhcp addresses |
| 01:57.38 | markybob | Stargazer, http://samba.netfilter.org/ |
| 01:59.35 | optraz | abrotman: no it isnt. Tramp, the idea is setting up a few virtual interfaces with different mac address. |
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| 02:00.04 | markybob | optraz, did you just call abrotman a tramp? are you insane, or just high? |
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| 02:00.36 | optraz | markybob: No. Tramp replied. |
| 02:00.57 | Tramp | optraz: only way I know how to do it is using a virtual ethernet pair device (veth driver) by using the undocumented "ip link add veth" command. Last time I checked, I did not find useful documentation, but maybe you may have more luck |
| 02:01.21 | Tramp | optraz: if you actually find useful documentation on that, let me know |
| 02:01.22 | markybob | heh :P |
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| 02:02.24 | Nubosal | I need some help, I hope you can help me |
| 02:02.44 | abrotman | looks to see if we're out of help ... |
| 02:02.56 | Nubosal | I misdownloaded wrong arch cd |
| 02:03.05 | Nubosal | And now I see it, and i have the correct arch cd |
| 02:03.21 | Nubosal | When I boot into it, when its mounting the CD Unit, says it failed to mount it. |
| 02:03.37 | Nubosal | Someone knows why? |
| 02:04.12 | Tramp | optraz: and I just see "ip link add" is still undocumented in squeeze (but should work even in lenny). So good luck. |
| 02:05.14 | Nubosal | Nobody? |
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| 02:05.32 | abrotman | Nubosal: are you sure it's the correct architecture? |
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| 02:05.41 | Nubosal | The one im using now, it is |
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| 02:05.56 | Nubosal | Im new to this, I have a friend that is helping me, but he has 2 days offline |
| 02:06.02 | Nubosal | He told me to download that CD |
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| 02:07.28 | abrotman | Nubosal: what is your CPU? what CD did you download ? |
| 02:07.37 | Nubosal | i have an i7 |
| 02:07.48 | Nubosal | I have i386 installed, and downloaded amd64 |
| 02:07.51 | Nubosal | My friend told me |
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| 02:08.19 | abrotman | so what's wrong with using the i386? |
| 02:08.47 | markybob | i7 with < 4GB ram is kinda...well...bullshit :P |
| 02:08.49 | Nubosal | He told me was another architecure |
| 02:09.07 | abrotman | and how much RAM do you have? |
| 02:09.12 | Nubosal | 2GB |
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| 02:09.20 | abrotman | markybob: hell .. even with the -bigmem it's not that big of a deal |
| 02:09.30 | markybob | abrotman, good point |
| 02:09.36 | abrotman | Nubosal: and you're sure you got amd64, not ia64 ? |
| 02:09.46 | Nubosal | Ye, my friend gave me the link |
| 02:10.02 | abrotman | do you have that link handy ? |
| 02:10.08 | Nubosal | No |
| 02:10.40 | Nubosal | it was from the Debian CD Images |
| 02:11.03 | abrotman | yes .. that's where they all are |
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| 02:11.45 | Nubosal | Anyone knows why it said failed to mount the CD? |
| 02:11.55 | abrotman | Nubosal: that's why we're asking for the link |
| 02:12.01 | abrotman | you don't still have the ISO on your machine ? |
| 02:12.10 | Nubosal | I still have it |
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| 02:13.02 | abrotman | markybob: get the jaws of life |
| 02:13.11 | Nubosal | The name of the iso is "debian-503-amd64-CD-1.iso" |
| 02:14.17 | abrotman | Nubosal: and do you have the exact error it's spitting out? |
| 02:14.30 | abrotman | i can say that if you burn ISOs at high speed, sometimes they fail oddly |
| 02:14.40 | Nubosal | I burnt to half speed |
| 02:14.51 | neoalex | abrotman, that did it, thank you very much for your help |
| 02:15.00 | Nubosal | After I select language, and keyboard config, when its trying to mount the CD, sais it failed to mount the CD unit |
| 02:15.08 | abrotman | neoalex: you may want to issue a final 'dpkg-reconfigure dash' just to make sure |
| 02:15.13 | abrotman | half speed ? |
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| 02:15.16 | Nubosal | Ye |
| 02:15.18 | Nubosal | Of the max speed |
| 02:15.22 | abrotman | Nubosal: ah .. totally different error |
| 02:15.27 | abrotman | !tell Nubosal about kmuto |
| 02:15.40 | abrotman | or possibly play with the options for your CD device in the BIOS |
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| 02:16.01 | Nubosal | Some days ago I sucesfully installed Debian |
| 02:16.06 | Nubosal | Maybe its my CD unit problem, thanks |
| 02:16.29 | Nubosal | Im leaving now |
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| 02:21.33 | neoalex | abrotman, that worked too, thanks again |
| 02:21.56 | abrotman | enjoy |
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| 02:23.26 | shivraj | why is kde so horrible in debian ? |
| 02:23.40 | shivraj | why is it biased to gnome ? |
| 02:24.29 | Gnarfoz | why is my boot setup totally messed up after a kernel-update? |
| 02:24.55 | Gnarfoz | (and after switching to dependcy based init scripts) |
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| 02:28.25 | abrotman | shivraj: it's not biased at all |
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| 02:28.26 | Coweater | what's so horrible about kde? |
| 02:28.26 | Coweater | plays 20 questions |
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| 02:31.36 | Fryth | is it okay to ask for support here.. I'm trying to get apache2 set up with perl, can someone help.. it should be working |
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| 02:31.47 | Fryth | mod_perl is installed, the script runs from shell... |
| 02:32.20 | nick[0] | how can I make the /lib/modules/2.6.*/build directory of a make-kpkg built kernel point to /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.*, at the time I make the deb? As it is, /lib/modules/mykernel/build always points to /usr/src/mykernel/ instead of /usr/src/mykernel-headers |
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| 02:32.52 | nick[0] | correction: s/build directory/build link/ |
| 02:33.42 | Fryth | PHP is working fine, but perl scripts are popping open a "download file.." link |
| 02:34.26 | shivraj | abrotman: if you say so |
| 02:35.34 | abrotman | shivraj: if you think the packages are in a sad state .. step up and help |
| 02:36.15 | father_marc | shivraj: I'm running KDE on Debian... I think it is great. |
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| 02:37.03 | father_marc | shivraj: Maybe you're looking for KDE 4.3.2 or something cutting edge like that? If so, forget Debian. ;P |
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| 02:40.52 | shivraj | father_marc: I removed gnome then installed kde, dont know if that matters, plus I am not used to kde, kmail doesnt want to work ... etc ...., ... I just told it not to minimize memory :) .... lets see how much faster it gets .. just a couple of things dont work well ... but its very fast |
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| 02:42.33 | abrotman | shivraj: TBH .. i've heard there are quite a number of issues with kmail, not related to Debian (i don't use it myself so I can't verify) |
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| 02:44.40 | Fryth | I've set everything up according to the apache docs on CGI, but it's still not working, it's the weirdest thing |
| 02:44.49 | Fryth | i have a ServerAlias directive, and the permissions are okay |
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| 02:44.55 | Fryth | er, ScriptAlias |
| 02:45.19 | Wyzard | Fryth: To run Perl as CGI, you need to put your scripts in a ScriptAlias'ed directory, or name them something like ".cgi" and use "AddHandler cgi-script .cgi" |
| 02:45.43 | Wyzard | Fryth: but CGI and mod_perl are two different things |
| 02:45.59 | Fryth | sorry, i shouldnt be saying .cgi, I wrote a perl script and called it test.pl |
| 02:46.02 | Fryth | mod_perl is what i'm using |
| 02:46.17 | Fryth | it basically outputs hello world |
| 02:46.22 | Fryth | and it works from the shell if you type ./test.pl |
| 02:46.31 | Fryth | but apache won't execute it :# |
| 02:46.39 | Wyzard | Fryth: If you want your scripts to run under mod_perl (in a Perl interpreter *in* the Apache process, rather than in a separate process) then you should be reading setup docs for mod_perl, not for CGI |
| 02:46.56 | Fryth | hmm |
| 02:47.26 | Fryth | i'm not clear on the difference, i certainly don't have performance issues |
| 02:47.29 | Fryth | i just want it to work |
| 02:48.50 | Wyzard | Fryth: CGI works by Apache forking a child process to run the CGI program -- if the program is a Perl script, that means reading the #! line and exec'ing /usr/bin/perl (or whatever) |
| 02:49.07 | Fryth | ok -- I got that.. and that's what it should be doing |
| 02:49.59 | Wyzard | Fryth: mod_perl works by loading the Perl interpreter library into the Apache process, so that Perl code can run without needing to exec /usr/bin/perl in a separate process -- the #! line is irrelevant in that case |
| 02:50.23 | Fryth | okay |
| 02:50.41 | Fryth | for more efficient use of system resources, i take it? |
| 02:51.02 | Wyzard | yes, because executing a separate copy of the Perl interpreter for every request is inefficient |
| 02:51.04 | Fryth | i seem to be doing it the first way, which seems easier, so i'll stick with it |
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| 02:51.21 | Fryth | this server is only for me |
| 02:51.31 | Wyzard | then you probably don't need mod_perl |
| 02:51.35 | Fryth | right |
| 02:51.39 | Fryth | anyway, any idea why it doesn't work :D |
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| 02:51.46 | Wyzard | so, troubleshooting the CGI route, what directory is your script in? |
| 02:51.57 | Fryth | /usr/lib/cgi-bin, the default |
| 02:52.03 | Fryth | and the ScriptAlias is /usr/lib/cgi-bin |
| 02:52.12 | Fryth | the directory says options +ExecCGI |
| 02:52.18 | Fryth | i'm paraphrasing my configs |
| 02:52.37 | Fryth | i even have an AddHandler cgi-script cgi pl |
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| 02:53.09 | shivraj | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtBBl6HvdpM&feature=related a really hot geek chick, thought you guys might like this |
| 02:53.09 | Wyzard | You shouldn't need the AddHandler for things in a ScriptAlias directory |
| 02:53.36 | Fryth | yeah, thats what i thought, its commented out right now |
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| 02:53.48 | abrotman | shivraj: wrong channel |
| 02:53.48 | Fryth | I should probably sleep on it, its probably something simple |
| 02:53.50 | Wyzard | and you're using /cgi-bin/ in your URL when you try to request the script via HTTP? |
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| 02:53.56 | Fryth | yep |
| 02:54.20 | Fryth | I should remove mod_perl then |
| 02:54.45 | Wyzard | Fryth: That sounds like it should work, but I'd look in the error log to see if anything unusual is mentioned there |
| 02:54.54 | Fryth | nothing in there :( |
| 02:54.58 | Fryth | except tumbleweeds |
| 02:55.29 | Fryth | it's almost like I'm configuring the wrong server |
| 02:55.29 | Cydell_ | I'm interested in trying debian but there are more that 30 .iso files to download. Which ones are manditory? |
| 02:55.48 | Fryth | Cydell: the best way to install, IMHO, is to get the minimal network install CD and install from the net |
| 02:56.14 | Cydell_ | can I do that from Vbox? |
| 02:56.48 | Fryth | I don't see why not? |
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| 02:56.48 | Cydell_ | ok thanks |
| 02:56.49 | Fryth | the virtual interface in any VM will be detected immediately by any linux |
| 02:56.51 | Fryth | distro |
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| 03:00.23 | Gnarfoz | which log file should I look at first when a remote system has trouble booting up? (I can access the file system through a rescue system) |
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| 03:01.09 | markybob | Gnarfoz, initially i'd look at dmesg |
| 03:01.10 | Fryth | dmesg comes to mind... probably several, though |
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| 03:04.34 | Tramp | !tell Gnarfoz -about bootlog |
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| 03:04.43 | Tramp | Gnarfoz: maybe that helps |
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| 03:07.37 | Gnarfoz | thanks, I'll try that - however I get the impression the problem is even earlier in the boot process - dmesg still says kernel 2.6.26-2, while grub default entry is 2.6.30 |
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| 03:10.58 | _Trinity_ | well it seems that empathy received amsn telepony support in testing. Yet another reason tp upgrade. Anyone got this working? |
| 03:11.40 | Fryth | Gnarfoz: time/date stamp on the dmesg log might lead a clue, you can see if it matches up with your boot |
| 03:11.57 | Gnarfoz | Fryth: it doesn't, not even remotely |
| 03:12.08 | Fryth | yeah, then the kernel isn't getting very far |
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| 03:12.45 | Gnarfoz | guess it's time to change the grub default entry by hand |
| 03:12.50 | Gnarfoz | wonder how this broke :( |
| 03:12.53 | Fryth | (or not loading at all) |
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| 03:14.23 | Gnarfoz | there's still IRC clients going boom from malformed DCC requests? fstock is sending some. |
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| 03:14.37 | Tramp | !ops fstock sending unsolicited DCC requests |
| 03:14.38 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: tramp complains about: fstock sending unsolicited DCC requests |
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| 03:15.06 | Tramp | tx |
| 03:15.07 | abrotman | some people are idiots |
| 03:15.09 | spowers | that is a fantastic system |
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| 03:16.18 | abrotman | sway_/stuckey/mr_Deffy please connect to freenode on 8001 |
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| 03:16.50 | xororand | afaik some guy from miami uni who doesn't get enough attention in RL is sending those, not fstock |
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| 03:17.01 | vagothcpp | Which debian, is more stable for a server environment? Etch/Lenny |
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| 03:17.20 | abrotman | lenny is coded as stable, and will have longer security support |
| 03:17.36 | spowers | lenny would necessarily have piles more bugfixes than etch at this point in the kernel and so forth |
| 03:17.41 | abrotman | xororand: well, if you've got some actual proof, tell staff |
| 03:18.11 | vagothcpp | Lenny it is, I am placing it on my developer system for testing anyway, just wanted a quick opinion |
| 03:18.21 | spowers | unless you mean stability in that etch will no longer change.. if you don't want updates ever, i believe potato is still available ;) |
| 03:18.23 | xororand | abrotman: unfortunately not but i'll keep a raw irc log from now on |
| 03:18.49 | vagothcpp | I definitly need some updates |
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| 03:28.42 | sway_ | why? |
| 03:28.50 | sway_ | i did it, but why? |
| 03:28.56 | catsup_ | anyone know of an apt repo with 64bit firefox 3.5? |
| 03:29.37 | abrotman | experimental ? |
| 03:29.40 | markybob | catsup_, only experimental has iceweasel 3.5. on any bit |
| 03:29.49 | sway_ | abrotman: why use 8001? |
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| 03:30.10 | abrotman | sway_: so you don't get disconnected for the dcc things |
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| 03:30.40 | abrotman | catsup_: oh, it's in sid now |
| 03:30.40 | sway_ | abrotman: man |
| 03:30.43 | catsup_ | hm well i found this thing swiftfox |
| 03:31.12 | markybob | abrotman, huh? packages.debian.org only has 3.5 in experimental |
| 03:31.21 | abrotman | judd: versions iceweasel |
| 03:31.22 | judd | abrotman: iceweasel -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1 etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1 lenny: 3.0.6-1 lenny-security: 3.0.6-3 squeeze: 3.0.14-1 experimental: 3.5.3-1 sid: 3.5.3-2 |
| 03:31.30 | abrotman | sid (unstable) (web): lightweight web browser based on Mozilla |
| 03:31.30 | abrotman | 3.5.3-2: alpha amd64 armel i386 mips sparc |
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| 03:39.27 | _Trinity_ | l |
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| 03:40.51 | gasull | Hi. How do I find what program is using por 9001? I did: |
| 03:41.03 | gasull | netstat -a | egrep 9001 |
| 03:41.16 | gasull | but didn't get much info |
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| 03:43.10 | Fryth | are you sure it's in use? what happens when you telnet localhost 9001 |
| 03:43.11 | Tramp | lsof -nitcp:9001 - althouch the netstat | grep should show it too |
| 03:43.11 | gasull | http://dpaste.com/106998/ |
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| 03:43.17 | Fryth | because it should show it |
| 03:43.59 | Tramp | gasull: man netstat to add info about the process |
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| 03:44.13 | mee | you might need superuser privileges to view the program name |
| 03:44.24 | gasull | http://dpaste.com/106999/ |
| 03:44.27 | jpinx-eeepc | is there a way i can remove shutdown priviledges from users using gdm? |
| 03:45.02 | catsup_ | fuser -v 9001/tcp gives a nice display |
| 03:45.26 | catsup_ | jpinx-eeepc: yeah, configure gdm |
| 03:47.41 | gasull | Thanks. I found it: sudo netstat -a --program |
| 03:47.58 | CodeNinja | I have a domain pointing to my IP address here, is there a way to get it so that any time that I visit something it uses that domain name instead of my isp assigned host name? |
| 03:48.10 | CodeNinja | not just one place, but everywhere |
| 03:49.22 | Fryth | you're tlaking about controlling the reverse DNS record for your IP, and you can't do it |
| 03:49.36 | catsup_ | your isp does that |
| 03:49.40 | Fryth | unless you talk to your ISP and they allow you to do that, which is rare but you can try :D |
| 03:49.46 | catsup_ | type 'whois [your IP address]' |
| 03:49.50 | catsup_ | it will tell you who to contact |
| 03:50.12 | Fryth | ah, cool |
| 03:50.29 | CodeNinja | catsup_: yeh, doubt they would, :( but thanks for the info |
| 03:50.42 | daya | is there is any way that ftp users can change their password |
| 03:51.24 | catsup_ | daya: you mean using ftp? |
| 03:51.41 | Fryth | it depends on the FTP server. if the users are configured in a database, like MySQL then there's probably a facility. but if the FTP esrver is getting its accounts from the local unix passwd file, then probably not I'm thinking |
| 03:51.41 | daya | catsup_, yes by client |
| 03:52.36 | Fryth | eg proftpd: http://www.proftpd.org/docs/howto/VirtualUsers.html |
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| 03:52.51 | catsup_ | there is no way to specify a password change using the ftp protocol |
| 03:53.34 | Fryth | oh ok, i might be wrong, i thought for sure I saw a non-standard command being used by some servers |
| 03:53.56 | catsup_ | i wouldn't be surprised if there is a nonstandard command |
| 03:54.01 | catsup_ | or several |
| 03:54.06 | catsup_ | it seems like a pretty good command to add! |
| 03:54.31 | Fryth | at least 1 person needs it :) |
| 03:55.12 | catsup_ | ftp is a terrible protocol anyway |
| 03:55.18 | CodeNinja | scp :) |
| 03:55.19 | daya | Fryth, I have to mange the fileserver and providing access to users based on username and password , |
| 03:55.27 | catsup_ | the lack of a way to change pw is one of its many deficiencies |
| 03:55.34 | _Trinity_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:55.47 | catsup_ | daya: give them a web site to change their pw |
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| 03:55.51 | Fryth | catsup: agreed, altho I thought they made it a bit better after adding machine-readable support to directory listings, but even that's nonstandard I think, ugh |
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| 03:56.28 | daya | catsup_, yes you mean writing a cgi-script to change the password |
| 03:56.42 | catsup_ | right |
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| 03:58.55 | helo_ | i did a safe-upgrade and ran out of disk space, so many of the man pages failed to install... |
| 03:59.04 | helo_ | is there any way for me to reinstall them now that there is space? |
| 03:59.14 | helo_ | or to know exactly what failed? |
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| 04:00.06 | vagothcpp | What version lf GNU/Linux is debian lenny running? |
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| 04:02.05 | vagothcpp | and does the netinst come with make? |
| 04:03.12 | helo_ | i doubt it |
| 04:03.30 | phobos | vagothcpp: 5.0 and no make doesn't come with the netinst iso |
| 04:03.47 | helo_ | that would seem to contradict the goal of being as small as possible while allowing a network install... |
| 04:04.28 | vagothcpp | helo_: Well I need firmware to allow a network install |
| 04:04.49 | phobos | vagothcpp: so download the firmware... |
| 04:05.05 | helo_ | i don't think firmware requires make |
| 04:05.05 | vagothcpp | phobos: Which needs make to compile |
| 04:05.26 | phobos | vagothcpp: lan or wifi card? |
| 04:05.32 | vagothcpp | wifi |
| 04:05.37 | phobos | model? |
| 04:05.40 | helo_ | maybe m-a? |
| 04:05.57 | vagothcpp | ASUS WL138G v2 (Broadcome 4318 Chipset) |
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| 04:08.00 | phobos | vagothcpp: you don't need to compile that. |
| 04:09.03 | vagothcpp | http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#firmware_installation says otherwise |
| 04:09.27 | vagothcpp | unless I am just reading wrong, over and over and over |
| 04:09.29 | phobos | vagothcpp: are you able to receive files across irc? |
| 04:09.47 | vagothcpp | phobos: DCC? No |
| 04:09.50 | phobos | I'll send you the firmware... just untar in your /lib/firmware |
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| 04:21.50 | mick_laptop | hi everyone, does: xmodmap -e "remove lock = Caps_Lock" survive a reboot? |
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| 04:22.48 | Fryth | I got my CGI working, the CGI module wasn't loaded in mods-enabled |
| 04:23.35 | Fryth | lol, lame |
| 04:23.39 | Fryth | (me, that is) |
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| 04:29.03 | ArkoldThos | heya :) |
| 04:29.38 | ArkoldThos | a little question, if I know how to setup completly a Debian environment with Linux, I will be able to do the same with kFreebsd? (I use Sid on Debian, so use unstable apps will not be a problem) |
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| 04:30.26 | vagothcpp | ArkoldThos: Depends, Linux isnt unix, it was only created with the same gaols im mind, so try is all I can say |
| 04:30.40 | markybob | ArkoldThos, in general, yes. but you should realize that linux has *far* better hardware support than freebsd does |
| 04:31.24 | ArkoldThos | sometime in the past I used freebsd, but just a little... |
| 04:31.29 | ArkoldThos | just had the doubt :) |
| 04:31.40 | Fryth | ArkoldThos: the kernel is at a lower level of abstraction that you are generally working at when doing basic system administration, but knowing linux does not automatically mean you know freebsd, but go for it |
| 04:31.58 | ArkoldThos | yup knew it :) will try it |
| 04:32.07 | Fryth | you are smart :) |
| 04:32.18 | Fryth | me, i'm just guessing |
| 04:32.23 | Fryth | jk |
| 04:32.23 | markybob | ArkoldThos, i used freebsd 10 years ago while i worked at an ISP...nothing to do with the present :P freebsd hardware support sucks. you should stick with linux if you can |
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| 04:33.42 | ArkoldThos | used it like 3 yrs ago, but it didn't support my main pc hardware, so i didn't use it that much |
| 04:33.46 | Fryth | yeah, i would only use freebsd if I needed pf over iptables for some specific reason, or something like that |
| 04:34.16 | markybob | ArkoldThos, use linux. |
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| 04:34.42 | Dryanta | markybob: you are incorrect |
| 04:35.00 | Fryth | what else is in freebsd? jails? |
| 04:35.02 | Dryanta | freebsd hardware support is brilliant, and it is better than any linux distro for scalable managable servers |
| 04:35.23 | markybob | ha |
| 04:35.32 | mee | it's less awesome for desktop/consumer hardware, or was last time I used it uh, 10 years ago |
| 04:35.41 | Dryanta | exactly |
| 04:35.42 | ArkoldThos | managing servers, but on workstations sux :p |
| 04:35.47 | Dryanta | agreed |
| 04:35.51 | Fryth | there were a couple of selling points discussed in the /. article, like jails and virtual kernels i think |
| 04:36.00 | Dryanta | jails are rad |
| 04:36.01 | Dryanta | zfs |
| 04:36.03 | Dryanta | dtrace |
| 04:36.05 | Fryth | server features, of course |
| 04:36.14 | Dryanta | in 8 there is dom0 support |
| 04:36.17 | Fryth | i liked truss when i used it |
| 04:36.17 | markybob | there are no server hardware that freebsd supports better than linux |
| 04:36.18 | Dryanta | for xen |
| 04:36.22 | markybob | this is just silly |
| 04:36.23 | Fryth | got me out of a jam |
| 04:36.24 | Dryanta | markybob: orly |
| 04:36.36 | Dryanta | you made an unsubstantiated claim, so i called you on it |
| 04:37.07 | Fryth | where's that "every OS sucks" video |
| 04:37.16 | mee | every OS /does/ suck |
| 04:37.19 | markybob | Dryanta, it's not. i worked with freebsd and linux at an ISP. how does your claim have more merit? |
| 04:37.54 | Dryanta | i manage 40 freebsd machines across 13 sites |
| 04:38.00 | Dryanta | think i might be qualified to answer :P\ |
| 04:38.13 | dondelelcaro | freebsd isn't on topic here. |
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| 04:38.23 | Dryanta | im sr network administrator for the largest work comp law firm in ca |
| 04:38.23 | markybob | oh my. i just pissed my pants. you must be right |
| 04:38.35 | Dryanta | dondelelcaro: yes, it is if it is being compared to linux, as it is |
| 04:38.43 | Fryth | religion isn't on topic here, heh |
| 04:38.45 | dondelelcaro | Dryanta: no, it's not. Neither comparison is on topic here. |
| 04:38.54 | Dryanta | dondelelcaro: untrue |
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| 04:41.00 | dondelelcaro | ArkoldThos: you should be able to, though there are still some issues being worked out with kFreeBSD. feel free to use it and file bugs, of course. |
| 04:42.29 | _Trinity_ | guys, is www.debian-multimedia.org legit? |
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| 04:42.42 | dondelelcaro | _Trinity_: it's a website that distributes debian packages |
| 04:42.54 | markybob | _Trinity_, yes |
| 04:43.44 | _Trinity_ | I'm thinkng of trying vlc and mplayer from there because the defalts ones crap out when tryng ot play remote wma or flash feeds |
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| 04:44.30 | markybob | _Trinity_, go for it |
| 04:44.36 | _Trinity_ | I assume hte default ones are disabled |
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| 04:46.47 | acu | Debian GNU/Linux Certified Administrator |
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| 04:48.27 | acu | Debian GNU/Linux Certified User (Desktop Manager ) - all sound awkard - I have to find a middle between being professional and a complete newbie - someone who knows to install a wifi etc |
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| 04:48.50 | acu | What do you think ? |
| 04:48.59 | dondelelcaro | acu: there's no such certification |
| 04:49.21 | dondelelcaro | acu: so just say that you have experience with Debian doing blah, blah blah |
| 04:49.56 | acu | dondelelcaro :) - I know - it will be soon - we need to take some initiative |
| 04:50.07 | acu | Power to the People |
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| 04:52.00 | acu | dondelelcaro: I am going to look around for all certifications in Linux (even Windows) and built a Debian Specific Certification - of course I will ask consultancy from you Dondelelcaro - and other Grande Maestre - such as abrotman etc |
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| 04:54.08 | acu | I am looking for Ubuntu certification |
| 04:54.20 | acu | I think they have one - they have to have one |
| 04:55.23 | acu | Dr. Dondelelcaro -Debian GNU/Linux Certified Profesional |
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| 04:56.28 | acu | Abrotman - Certified Debian GNU/Linux Systems Engineer |
| 04:56.30 | dondelelcaro | certifications are generally pretty much worthless; only HR pays any attention (and if that's not the case, run as fast as you can.) |
| 04:57.06 | dondelelcaro | acu: but regardless, that's not really anything that has to do with Debian; we don't do the certification (or have anything to do with anyone who is) |
| 04:57.33 | _Trinity_ | am I correct ot assume that default repository vlc & mplayer apps are crippled in as far as playing proprietary formats? |
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| 04:57.43 | dondelelcaro | _Trinity_: depends on the format |
| 04:58.39 | dondelelcaro | but yes, there are some formats that we can't distribute either because of patents, or because they're binary only, or... |
| 04:58.52 | dondelelcaro | (often because we can't even legally distribute them) |
| 04:59.08 | _Trinity_ | I just use wma, real & flash --as far proprietary goes |
| 04:59.29 | dondelelcaro | flash is a container which can use a whole slew of formats |
| 04:59.38 | _Trinity_ | but aren't support for these formats hardcoded into mplayer and vlc? |
| 04:59.43 | dondelelcaro | _Trinity_: no |
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| 04:59.45 | acu | dondelelcaro: respectfully I disagree with you - it forces you to have some structured understanding of the operating system and how it works - it forces people to get a round set of skills - and challenges the masses to specific set of skills ---- About the HR paying attention for it - I do not know about it - I think HR looks whether you have a College Degree - which on a real scale is almost more wasteful than a certification (OK I stretch it a bit - but it |
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| 05:01.04 | dondelelcaro | acu: all of that is often orthogonal to the nature of a certification; when I interview a candiate, I ask questions to determine what they know. Certifications don't necessarily tell me anything |
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| 05:04.42 | acu | dondelelcaro but you never have time to really test them whether they really know - until they actually need to do it - which is kind of late ( of course it is easier if the person has heavy portofolio behind him - but for a young person - is tough) |
| 05:05.18 | Cryptic_Donkey | so if i understand you woul take a canidate witha degree in computer science rather than a fully quallified APlus/ MCTIP or MCDST o mces am i not correct dondelelcaro ? |
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| 05:06.30 | Cryptic_Donkey | dondelelcaro: |
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| 05:07.49 | jill | hi =) |
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| 05:11.18 | qtqt | are there any debian repositories with the latest xserver? like ones that have multicard support working again? (1.7+) |
| 05:11.46 | qtqt | looks like even unstable is stuck at 1.6.5 |
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| 05:12.44 | _Trinity_ | can I just safe-update (after a aptitude update of course) to update/upgrade apps to apps on a newlly added repository or do I have to reinstall them? |
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| 05:22.11 | dondelelcaro | qtqt: experimental has 1.7 |
| 05:22.34 | qtqt | oh thanks i will look again for that |
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| 05:31.16 | hid3 | !tell me about remove gnome |
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| 05:33.26 | puddles | howdy |
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| 05:35.40 | eeyore- | someone at work brought up a good point about gnome remote desktop / desktop sharing |
| 05:35.59 | eeyore- | maybe you guys have solution for this. |
| 05:36.57 | eeyore- | yoohoo, anyone awake now? |
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| 05:37.55 | dbbolton | which file in the debianized source can be used to pass extra arguments to ./configure ? |
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| 05:38.23 | dondelelcaro | dbbolton: debian/rules |
| 05:38.43 | eeyore- | donde! |
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| 05:40.00 | jetscreamer | does that make you e-mule? :) |
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| 05:42.19 | eeyore- | oh well, in case someone is bored :-) here's my question ... i take it you guys have used windows remote desktop before, and you know when a remote connection is made to a computer, the local computer's screen / keyboard are locked. well, under gnome desktop sharing, that's not the case. let's say we have "work" window where a user has gone home for the day (and the screen is locked), then once the user logs in remotely from "home |
| 05:42.20 | eeyore- | ", the "work" computer's screensaver will be unlocked, leaving the "work" computer with keyboard/mouse access. hmm. not good |
| 05:42.53 | eeyore- | any way around that? besides "don't do it"? :-) |
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| 05:48.55 | jony123 | Anyone here know how to setup a smtp server and could help me with an error i get |
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| 05:51.37 | eeyore- | jony123: could try, what is it? |
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| 05:51.59 | cretsiah | !congratulate |
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| 05:54.09 | jony123 | eeyore-: When trying to send a message to gmail via my email server http://jony123.pastebin.com/m5c7811a0 |
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| 05:56.43 | jony123 | brb |
| 05:57.28 | hid3 | Godd morning everyone. After installing lxde and removing gnome, my graphical user interface doesn't start automatically anymore. I need to login and type `startx` to start it. Also, it doesn't prompt me for a login. Is there any way to fix this? |
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| 05:59.14 | cretsiah | hid3: u would probably have to search for the "autologin" file and disable it |
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| 06:00.09 | hid3 | cretsiah, is it somewhere in /etc? |
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| 06:04.59 | hid3 | Also, how can I install correct display drivers? I'm using nVidia Riva 32 MB graphics card but my performance is very poor.. |
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| 06:09.21 | eeyore- | jony123: hey, your provider probably blocks outbound port 25 |
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| 06:10.09 | eeyore- | jony123: all you have to do to test it is to telnet to port 25 of a machine which you know for sure accepts inbound connection to port 25. if you can't connect, then your isp filters that out (to cut down on spam originating from THEIR network) |
| 06:10.21 | jony123 | ok |
| 06:10.39 | cretsiah | sorry hid3 i thought i was on puppylinux when i said that and i believe its in /bin in puppuylinux |
| 06:10.56 | niklaswe | god morgon guys :) |
| 06:10.58 | eeyore- | jony123: there is nothing you can do to fix that :-) |
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| 06:12.06 | ywb | Hello all! i install cx_Oracle last version and he give me the error 'cx_Oracle.InterfaceError: Unable to acquire Oracle environment handle' when i try create connect. How fix the ? |
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| 06:12.33 | eeyore- | ywb: why don't you ask oracle? |
| 06:13.21 | ywb | oracle is sleap |
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| 06:13.30 | jony123 | eeyore-: My isp has an opting out system. I have opted out. but nothing happened i then emailed them about it... no responce... emailed again no responce... sent a message to the proper suport email. no responce... |
| 06:13.58 | eeyore- | jony123: call their billing department and threaten to cancel :-) that usually works |
| 06:13.58 | jony123 | what would be the point in having a page if your not going to let people use it.. |
| 06:15.27 | jony123 | eeyore-: Im not the one paying the bill here. My dad is... |
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| 06:16.29 | eeyore- | jony123: have your isp ever seen / heard from your dad? if not, how do they know it's not "dad" calling? |
| 06:16.33 | draeath | I've been blessed with fixing a lenny system that (for some reason) has the old repo signing key. |
| 06:16.58 | draeath | How do you update to the current key? This guy somehow managed to miss the transitional period in january (?) |
| 06:17.07 | jony123 | eeyore-: True. But i think there other info that they ask too. Stuff that i wouldnt know. |
| 06:17.48 | eeyore- | jony123: usually just account number and address / phone number :-p |
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| 06:18.28 | _Trinity_ | g night |
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| 06:18.47 | jony123 | eeyore-: true. What realy pisses me off it that they didnt even respond to my emails |
| 06:18.49 | eeyore- | have you guys ever seen offers on rentacoder? majority of them are pretty hilarious |
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| 06:21.08 | jony123 | eeyore-: |
| 06:21.11 | jony123 | I also use email from a different provider on the Internet. Will I still be able to send and receive my email via that provider? |
| 06:21.15 | jony123 | If you use non-Telecom email accounts filtering, Port 25 should not prevent you using them. |
| 06:21.18 | jony123 | ops |
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| 06:27.43 | draeath | Nevermind... i figured it out. Had to pull and import the keys manually. Joy. |
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| 06:28.54 | Agiofws | hi |
| 06:28.55 | Agiofws | does anyone know how to print a text document in landscape format in oowriter ? |
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| 06:29.45 | gnarface | it has to be somewhere in print options i would assume |
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| 06:31.11 | Agiofws | it is ... |
| 06:31.14 | gnarface | somewhere in some options |
| 06:31.27 | Agiofws | but .. it still gets printed in portrait mode |
| 06:31.31 | gnarface | i've never used oowriter but landscape mode worked for me in oocalc |
| 06:31.31 | slipshot | anyone use lxde? |
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| 06:31.46 | gnarface | it what? |
| 06:31.59 | gnarface | pebkac |
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| 06:32.59 | Agiofws | it does not work |
| 06:33.09 | gnarface | pebkac |
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| 06:35.23 | gnarface | try it again after downgrading to the latest stable version |
| 06:38.12 | Supaplex | will fritz. no kdenlive hummm |
| 06:39.45 | gnarface | hiccups |
| 06:39.54 | Supaplex | oh boy. this looks like backport hell. time to fire up a sid vserver instance. |
| 06:40.11 | sauvin | In Debian Etch, the pan newsreader (version 0.119) has suddenly stopped decoding or assembling binaries downloaded from the usenet; it's just leaving behind tons of *.msg files. Can anybody point to some help with this? |
| 06:40.32 | gnarface | is there anyone here who can kick me? |
| 06:40.39 | gnarface | i would like to be kicked please |
| 06:41.03 | Supaplex | haha. like anyone wants to feed a troll. |
| 06:41.10 | gnarface | if i am forced to earn a kicking it will be tiresome to everyone involved |
| 06:41.33 | gnarface | i would prefer to just be kicked now and save everyone the trouble |
| 06:41.36 | sauvin | is armed with an /ignore button, and has a dangerous tendency to use it |
| 06:41.45 | Supaplex | kicks gnarface into his local ignore list |
| 06:41.51 | Supaplex | sauvin: GMTA :) |
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| 06:42.12 | Gnarfoz | how do I best go about debugging a situation where a remote machine doesn't boot anymore? it doesn't even reach a point where it starts writing dmesg, so that's out, I suspect the latest kernel update somehow broke it but that's just guessing. (I have access to the file system via a rescue system thingy) |
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| 06:42.39 | Supaplex | Gnarfoz: qemu -snapshot ? |
| 06:44.00 | Gnarfoz | Supaplex: uhm, that sounds... interesting, however I'm not really sure I get what you want to say |
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| 06:45.25 | Supaplex | Gnarfoz: elaborate on the rescue system thingy, or check out the qemu man page for use of -snapshot. I am on my way out of the office, so I won't be able to assist you further. Good luck. |
| 06:45.29 | Supaplex | !qemu |
| 06:45.30 | dpkg | QEMU is a fast PC emulator. <KQEMU> accelerator is released under GPL. <PXE> boot roms (pxe-e1000.bin, pxe-ne2k_pci.bin, pxe-pcnet.bin, pxe-rtl8139.bin) are not supplied in Lenny's version (Debian bug #412010); acquire and place within /usr/share/qemu if desired. http://wiki.debian.org/QEMU http://kidsquid.com/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/FrequentlyAskedQuestions http://www.nongnu.org/qemu/ #qemu on irc.freenode.net. See also <virtualization>. |
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| 06:46.48 | Gnarfoz | Supaplex: it's just a bare-bones system bootable via TFTP |
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| 06:49.41 | maxagaz | When I run "wget -q http://site/install.sh -O- | bash" my script can't be run completely, but if I do "wget -q http://site/install.sh ; bash install.sh", then there is no problem, does someone knows why ? |
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| 06:50.30 | gnarface | maxagaz: because you're stupid? |
| 06:50.53 | maxagaz | gnarface, ? |
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| 06:53.09 | gnarface | before we get into whatever heinous stupidity you're engaging in that involves blindly running scripts you wget off foreign webservers let's talk first about your wget syntax |
| 06:53.21 | gnarface | have you in fact read the wget man page? |
| 06:53.24 | nsadmin | maxagaz: check the man page for bash, do you see how to get bash to interpret from stdin? |
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| 06:54.38 | scred | hi |
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| 06:55.02 | gnarface | scred: go to hell |
| 06:55.03 | scred | i am a problem with live-helper |
| 06:55.16 | gnarface | scred: take that atrocity with you |
| 06:55.38 | nsadmin | hmm, actually a pipe to bash does work |
| 06:55.41 | scred | i want make a system live on usb key |
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| 06:56.14 | caraconan | Hi. I've got a server with a I/O errors. I shutted down and booted with knoppix. Now I want to fsck it. The server has 2 partitions, /dev/sda2 got a LVM. How should I check this filesystem? Should I enable LVM first? |
| 06:56.25 | scred | -> lh_config --bootstrap copy --debian-installer live --bootloader syslinux -b usb-hdd |
| 06:56.30 | scred | -> lh_build |
| 06:56.36 | gnarface | scred: nothing boots usb so have fun with your useless waste of 5 hours |
| 06:56.45 | scred | -> dd if=binary.img of=/dev/sdc |
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| 06:57.07 | nsadmin | gnarface: dude... you're grumpy :) |
| 06:57.15 | scred | fdisk -l /dev/sdc Disque /dev/sdc: 8019 Mo, 8019509248 octets 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 974 cylinders Units = cylindres of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0x0005c58d Périphérique Amorce Début Fin Blocs Id Système /dev/sdc1 * 1 166 1333363+ 83 Linux |
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| 06:57.28 | scred | When boot on key: message error: boot error |
| 06:57.35 | scred | Why? |
| 06:57.46 | gnarface | scred: see my last message |
| 06:58.23 | maxagaz | nsadmin, bash's man is quite big |
| 06:58.44 | pepsi | it's a big program |
| 06:58.45 | nsadmin | maxagaz: the info page is at least broken down into sections |
| 06:58.53 | gnarface | is grumpy |
| 06:59.04 | scred | usb not work? |
| 06:59.12 | maxagaz | nsadmin, and actually, it works for simple scripts, but not anymore when it becomes complex |
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| 06:59.46 | nsadmin | maxagaz: loops and stuff probably have to be in a file; I'm guessing here. |
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| 07:00.57 | caraconan | lvdisplay => displays the 3 LV |
| 07:01.05 | maxagaz | nsadmin, I don't have to run the scripts in the same command with the wget, it works in two steps, but i'd like to know how to make in one step |
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| 07:01.17 | caraconan | How should I check this partition? fsck /dev/sda2 gives me an error |
| 07:01.21 | nsadmin | gnarface, don't worry, I'll take it for about an hour, or maybe less |
| 07:01.38 | caraconan | Should I do the recommended 'fsck -b 8193 /dev/sda2' ? |
| 07:02.16 | nsadmin | caraconan wait, don't fsck yet, |
| 07:02.27 | nsadmin | what is sda2? |
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| 07:03.09 | nsadmin | for that matter what's sda? |
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| 07:03.30 | caraconan | The partition who holds the LVM |
| 07:03.37 | caraconan | lvdisplay => works |
| 07:03.39 | nsadmin | oh, you |
| 07:03.46 | nsadmin | are using the wrong dev name |
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| 07:03.54 | nsadmin | what |
| 07:03.55 | caraconan | The issue: I/O errors that make the server unusable |
| 07:03.56 | nsadmin | err |
| 07:04.05 | nsadmin | what is your vg name? |
| 07:04.09 | caraconan | datos |
| 07:04.14 | niklaswe | ha someone else got this messages 05:14 [freenode] Warning: Port sent with DCC request is a lowport (0, unknown) - this isn't normal. It is possible the address/port is faked (or maybe someone is just trying to bypass firewall) |
| 07:04.18 | niklaswe | 05:14 [freenode] DCC SEND from fstock [0.0.0.0 port 0]: irc.hackerthreads.org#hackerthreads [0B bytes] requested in channel #debian |
| 07:04.20 | nsadmin | ok, |
| 07:04.22 | niklaswe | ? |
| 07:04.24 | caraconan | /dev/datos/root => doesn't understand by fsck |
| 07:05.21 | nsadmin | caraconan: is this a running server that died? or you're trying to install to it? |
| 07:05.30 | caraconan | First |
| 07:05.38 | caraconan | Well, almost died |
| 07:05.41 | nsadmin | so it's a running server that died |
| 07:05.47 | nsadmin | or something :) |
| 07:05.48 | caraconan | I trying to get him back to normal life |
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| 07:06.32 | nsadmin | is it backed up? |
| 07:06.32 | nsadmin | when you say "server" I assume the answer is yes... |
| 07:06.41 | caraconan | No, the answer is no :( |
| 07:06.58 | caraconan | Yes, I know, first back up. Well, I will do know, but then? |
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| 07:07.12 | nsadmin | hmm. important data on /dev/datos/root? |
| 07:07.17 | caraconan | No |
| 07:07.41 | caraconan | The important data, and should be backed up yesterday, are in /dev/datos/disco_1 |
| 07:07.55 | caraconan | I'm checking the daily backup now |
| 07:08.15 | nsadmin | do you have the server hardware within sight? or 10,000 (or less) miles away? |
| 07:08.18 | caraconan | LVM => 3 LV: /root, /swap and /home |
| 07:08.27 | caraconan | I'm touching it |
| 07:08.48 | nsadmin | ok, so you have physical access, and so can probably reinstall |
| 07:08.53 | gnarface | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT22-J8-Jmc |
| 07:09.14 | caraconan | Yes, I can reinstall only over /dev/datos/root |
| 07:09.25 | caraconan | But I'm wondering if the disk are damaged... |
| 07:09.30 | nsadmin | what message when you tried to fsck? |
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| 07:09.41 | caraconan | The server know can't boot |
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| 07:10.12 | gnarface | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FjV2vNkpDA |
| 07:10.21 | nsadmin | hmm. if it turns out the disk is damaged... there's pretty much one solution to that |
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| 07:10.35 | nsadmin | gotta replace the drive and reinstall and restore |
| 07:10.40 | caraconan | Couldn' find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks.... |
| 07:10.44 | nsadmin | but perhaps I'm getting ahead of myself |
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| 07:11.11 | caraconan | The problem is that is a 1,5Tb disk |
| 07:11.17 | nsadmin | ok, what happens when you try fsck on /dev/datos/root? |
| 07:11.26 | caraconan | Doesn't find it |
| 07:11.40 | caraconan | We're talking with server booted with a live cd |
| 07:11.57 | nsadmin | what's pvscan say? |
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| 07:12.08 | nsadmin | well how many lines |
| 07:12.08 | caraconan | My answer is: how should I check the fs with a live cd? fsck /dev/sda2 => error |
| 07:12.36 | caraconan | More lines |
| 07:12.36 | caraconan | Let me boot again with live cd |
| 07:12.36 | nsadmin | ok |
| 07:12.36 | nsadmin | maybe live cd has not support for lvm? |
| 07:12.52 | caraconan | You're talking about knopixx!!! |
| 07:12.59 | caraconan | The best live cd I try ever |
| 07:13.04 | nsadmin | I am? :) |
| 07:13.22 | caraconan | 30 secs please |
| 07:13.36 | caraconan | lvdisplay => ok |
| 07:13.42 | caraconan | Know I will try pvscan |
| 07:13.47 | nsadmin | fishes in pocket... got change for a 60? |
| 07:14.07 | pepsi | hands nsadmin some quarters |
| 07:14.11 | pepsi | gib me that 60 |
| 07:14.37 | nsadmin | you're now the prowd owner of 60 seconds! |
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| 07:15.01 | pepsi | fuck |
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| 07:16.20 | caraconan | PV /dev/sda2 |
| 07:16.36 | nsadmin | ok, try vgscan |
| 07:16.51 | caraconan | Found VG 'datos' |
| 07:17.03 | caraconan | But fsck /dev/sda2 => fails |
| 07:17.03 | nsadmin | ok, try vgchange -a y |
| 07:17.23 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:17.30 | caraconan | That's active know |
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| 07:17.50 | nsadmin | now see if there is /dev/datow |
| 07:17.53 | nsadmin | err |
| 07:17.53 | caraconan | Know I can fsck LV |
| 07:17.56 | caraconan | Thanks |
| 07:18.33 | caraconan | root => clean | disco_1 => clean |
| 07:18.57 | caraconan | But every morning I get I/O errors that made, for instance, impossible 'halt' the system.... |
| 07:19.16 | nsadmin | that part, I dunno for.... |
| 07:19.50 | caraconan | Ok, thanks a lot. I learned today that for fsck a LV first you should enable the VG |
| 07:19.56 | nsadmin | every morning... one thing that happens every morning is updatedb |
| 07:19.58 | caraconan | Thanks a lot, nsadmin |
| 07:20.07 | gnarface | i don't feel a thing |
| 07:20.10 | gnarface | and i stopped remembering |
| 07:20.16 | gnarface | the days are just like moment turned to hours |
| 07:20.26 | gnarface | mother used to say: if you want you'll find a way |
| 07:20.32 | gnarface | but mother never danced through fire showers |
| 07:20.37 | gnarface | walk in the rain |
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| 07:20.39 | gnarface | in the rain |
| 07:20.41 | gnarface | in the rain |
| 07:20.46 | pepsi | stop singing |
| 07:20.47 | gnarface | i walk in the rain |
| 07:20.49 | gnarface | in the rain |
| 07:20.51 | caraconan | The Beatles? |
| 07:20.56 | gnarface | is it right or is it wrong |
| 07:21.02 | gnarface | and is here that i belong? |
| 07:21.07 | gnarface | i don't hear a sound |
| 07:21.11 | gnarface | silent faces in the ground |
| 07:21.18 | gnarface | quiet screams, but i refuse to listen |
| 07:21.25 | gnarface | if there is a hell, i'm sure this is how it smells |
| 07:21.34 | gnarface | i wish this were a dream, but not it isn't |
| 07:21.35 | gnarface | walk |
| 07:21.36 | gnarface | in the rain |
| 07:21.38 | gnarface | in the rain |
| 07:21.41 | gnarface | in the rain |
| 07:21.44 | gnarface | i walk in the rain |
| 07:21.47 | gnarface | in the rain |
| 07:21.56 | gnarface | am i right, or am i wrong |
| 07:22.03 | gnarface | and is it here that i belong? |
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| 07:22.58 | gnarface | walk in the rain. in the rain. in the rain. i walk in the rain. in the rain. why do i feel so alone? |
| 07:23.05 | gnarface | for some reason i think of home.... |
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| 07:30.22 | jelly-home | niklaswe: best to report those directly to staff in #freenode |
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| 07:32.08 | Farhadix | I have a problem by auto mounting of CD-ROM, it doesn't work! for normal user, I must run mount command in root. Is the problem in the permissions? What permission? |
| 07:32.40 | nsadmin | Farhadix what's the device for the cdrom |
| 07:33.08 | gnarface | Farhadix: the question you should ask yourself is what it is about your relationship with your mother that makes you afraid to use the mount command for what it was meant |
| 07:33.12 | Farhadix | scd0 |
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| 07:33.41 | nsadmin | ok, so if you ls -l /dev/scd0 |
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| 07:33.52 | nsadmin | you should see owner and group |
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| 07:34.19 | Farhadix | nsadmin, lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2009-09-22 05:38 /dev/scd0 -> sr0 |
| 07:34.33 | nsadmin | oh, a link |
| 07:34.37 | Farhadix | brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2009-09-22 05:38 /dev/sr0 |
| 07:34.46 | nsadmin | oh, the group is cdrom |
| 07:34.54 | nsadmin | is your user in that group? |
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| 07:35.42 | Farhadix | wait |
| 07:35.52 | nsadmin | btw notice that root (as owner) can read/write, the cdrom group can read/write, but all others have no permission |
| 07:36.45 | Farhadix | nsadmin, cdrom:x:24:farhadix |
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| 07:37.40 | nsadmin | ok, let's see if your current shell has that currently... type: groups (as farhadix) |
| 07:38.19 | Farhadix | cdrom is in result |
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| 07:38.33 | Farhadix | nsadmin, farhadix adm disk dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev netdev haldaemon powerdev vboxusers sambashare lpadmin scanner usbfs |
| 07:38.47 | nsadmin | so you should be able to mount |
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| 07:39.39 | nsadmin | there must be something else going on that I can't tell about... but it seems like you have permission on that cdrom dev |
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| 07:40.54 | nsadmin | oh, show the mount command you're using |
| 07:41.18 | nsadmin | actually there's another possibility I'm aware of |
| 07:41.34 | Farhadix | I have discovered it now, In shell I can mount it by normal user, |
| 07:42.18 | Farhadix | but gnome can't mount it auto or by right-click -> Mount Volume |
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| 07:42.57 | nsadmin | there should be "user" in options column of /etc/fstab |
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| 07:43.16 | nsadmin | which is why your user can mount in the shell |
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| 07:46.00 | Farhadix | /dev/scd0 /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 . Is noauto cause of problem? |
| 07:46.29 | nsadmin | no, noauto just says "not at boot" |
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| 07:47.33 | nsadmin | that's probably the normal fstab entry that debian puts there |
| 07:49.37 | Farhadix | nsadmin, when I type mount /dev/scd0 , I works fine, But when I type mount /dev/scd0 ~/cdrom returns: mount: only root can do that |
| 07:50.05 | nsadmin | one uses the "user" entry in fstab |
| 07:50.13 | nsadmin | the other doesn't see fstab at all |
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| 07:51.07 | nsadmin | normally mount is root only, the exceptions given in fstab, and the syntax is either: |
| 07:51.23 | nsadmin | mount /mount/point |
| 07:51.26 | nsadmin | or |
| 07:51.27 | jelly-home | !ops gnarface trolling (check the complete backlog for last ~40 minutes) |
| 07:51.28 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: jelly-home complains about: gnarface trolling (check the complete backlog for last ~40 minutes) |
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| 07:52.02 | nsadmin | jelly-home: he was grumpy... I said so... he sang a song and stopped |
| 07:52.22 | nsadmin | probably he needs rest (as I do now) |
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| 07:52.55 | jelly-home | nsadmin: you've been had. This was after the song: [09:31] <gnarface> Farhadix: the question you should ask yourself is what it is about your relationship with your mother that makes you afraid to use the mount command for what it was meant |
| 07:53.16 | jelly-home | nsadmin: and there are lines before that. That's _not_ merely grumpy. |
| 07:53.19 | azeem | gnarface: right, please stop that nonsense |
| 07:53.56 | nsadmin | ok, that's different |
| 07:54.17 | jelly-home | 's why I said to read the complete backlog |
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| 07:54.43 | nsadmin | I did see that when he posted it, but I didn't read the whole thign |
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| 07:59.53 | Farhadix | lost my question :P |
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| 08:01.13 | nsadmin | Farhadix: I think your question was, "why can I mount as user (because of fstab entry) but gnome can't mount, the cdrom" |
| 08:01.30 | nsadmin | and I have no idea for the latter part |
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| 08:01.58 | Farhadix | thanks nsadmin |
| 08:02.08 | nsadmin | anyway, I have to sleep |
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| 08:09.24 | caraconan | Hi. Again same issue: kernel:[ 2422.083571] journal commit I/O error |
| 08:09.43 | caraconan | Is best if I try to reinstall? |
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| 08:09.59 | azeem | caraconan: which file system is this? |
| 08:10.03 | rsr | is your hard disk ok? |
| 08:10.09 | azeem | euh |
| 08:10.15 | caraconan | Yes. LVM |
| 08:10.23 | azeem | that's not a file system |
| 08:10.48 | caraconan | I halted, booted with a live cd, enabled LVM and checked every /dev/my_vg/my_lv |
| 08:11.02 | caraconan | All is ok, but again same message and strange behaviours |
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| 08:11.21 | caraconan | I don't know if the hd is damaged, but fsck says that is ok |
| 08:11.33 | azeem | 10:09 < azeem> caraconan: which file system is this? |
| 08:12.10 | caraconan | LVM with 3 LV, with ext2 |
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| 08:12.17 | azeem | ext2 has no journla |
| 08:12.21 | azeem | journal* |
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| 08:12.33 | nsadmin | so, something thinks it' |
| 08:12.36 | nsadmin | s ext3 |
| 08:12.46 | azeem | caraconan: run "mount" |
| 08:12.55 | caraconan | http://pastebin.com/m6770620 => ugly errors |
| 08:12.55 | azeem | it prints out the file system types for you mounted partitions |
| 08:13.06 | caraconan | I can't do a 'su' |
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| 08:13.20 | azeem | caraconan: please answer our questions |
| 08:13.44 | caraconan | http://pastebin.com/me924c64 => mount output |
| 08:13.45 | eL | Where I can download new release debian lenny? |
| 08:13.51 | azeem | !lenny |
| 08:13.51 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, lenny is the binoculars, or the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 5.0, released on 2009-02-14: http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090214 Ask me about <release notes>, <install debian>, <etch->lenny>, <installer firmware>. Currently <5.0.3>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny |
| 08:13.58 | azeem | caraconan: so ext3 |
| 08:13.59 | azeem | not ext2 |
| 08:14.06 | caraconan | Sorry, ext3 |
| 08:14.12 | azeem | caraconan: that took a while |
| 08:14.20 | azeem | caraconan: I assume it's a hardware failure |
| 08:14.26 | azeem | do you have smartmontools installed? |
| 08:14.58 | azeem | caraconan: also check your kernel log for other errors besides the journal commit I/O error |
| 08:15.01 | caraconan | No: datos:~# aptitude install fdisk |
| 08:15.01 | caraconan | -bash: /usr/bin/aptitude: Input/output error |
| 08:15.16 | caraconan | I can't do nothing... or almost |
| 08:15.18 | azeem | I understand |
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| 08:15.22 | azeem | that's why I asked |
| 08:15.25 | azeem | 10:14 < azeem> do you have smartmontools installed? |
| 08:15.36 | azeem | I didn't ask you to install fdisk |
| 08:16.22 | caraconan | http://pastebin.com/m41689a27 => and so on |
| 08:16.42 | caraconan | I can't install nothing knwo: ro system |
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| 08:16.58 | caraconan | I try to reboot and I'm back in 2 minutes |
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| 08:17.07 | caraconan | To install smartmontools |
| 08:17.13 | caraconan | Thanks a lot for your help |
| 08:17.35 | azeem | eh |
| 08:17.38 | azeem | 10:14 < azeem> caraconan: also check your kernel log for other errors besides the journal commit I/O error |
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| 08:18.27 | jelly-home | caraconan: if your disk just went AWOL, you won't be able to install a thing; however the current dmesg, before a reboot, may contain additional clues |
| 08:19.49 | jelly-home | (if it wasn't swamped by io errors) |
| 08:20.44 | caraconan | I'm back |
| 08:20.59 | gnarface | i will stop now |
| 08:21.02 | caraconan | smartmontools installed |
| 08:21.30 | caraconan | What should I do now? |
| 08:22.24 | caraconan | http://pastebin.com/m4e9fab72 |
| 08:22.29 | caraconan | I'm right? |
| 08:22.58 | azeem | run smartctl --all /dev/sda |
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| 08:23.15 | azeem | or /dev/sda2, if that is really a harddisk |
| 08:23.52 | caraconan | /dev/sda2 => partition who holds LVM |
| 08:24.00 | azeem | look |
| 08:24.01 | caraconan | Then, smartctl --all /dev/sda or smartctl --all /dev/sda2 ? |
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| 08:24.07 | azeem | what's your harddisk? |
| 08:24.13 | caraconan | /dev/sda |
| 08:24.15 | azeem | so that |
| 08:24.18 | caraconan | ok |
| 08:24.25 | caraconan | smartctl --all /dev/sda |
| 08:24.27 | caraconan | ? |
| 08:24.41 | azeem | 10:22 < azeem> run smartctl --all /dev/sda |
| 08:25.20 | darrh00 | 's |
| 08:25.36 | caraconan | http://pastebin.com/m793bf6fe |
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| 08:26.51 | azeem | # |
| 08:26.52 | azeem | SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: FAILED! |
| 08:26.58 | azeem | # |
| 08:26.58 | azeem | Drive failure expected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA. |
| 08:27.01 | azeem | there you go |
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| 08:27.58 | caraconan | ok, then is a hardware failure? |
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| 08:28.42 | azeem | caraconan: I leave that to you as an exercide |
| 08:28.46 | azeem | exercise* |
| 08:29.20 | catsup_ | caraconan: do you have a place to copy the data to? |
| 08:29.38 | caraconan | Yes: 1Tb usb disk |
| 08:29.52 | caraconan | And every night is made a backup up |
| 08:29.56 | azeem | good |
| 08:29.59 | caraconan | The last today at 4:00 a.m. |
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| 08:30.06 | azeem | caraconan: that one might be bad already |
| 08:30.13 | nsadmin | exercide... that's good... |
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| 08:30.18 | caraconan | Yes, I'm looking know |
| 08:30.42 | caraconan | A fast way to copy: cp or rsync? Better second, isn't it? |
| 08:30.59 | OpenTokix | caraconan: cp is faster if you want all and its alot of files. |
| 08:31.13 | azeem | cp isn't recommended for system restor |
| 08:31.14 | azeem | e |
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| 08:31.25 | azeem | if you just want to cp data, it's fine |
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| 08:34.12 | catsup_ | rsync will do a buncho f reading frmo the disk before it starts to copy |
| 08:34.19 | catsup_ | you want to minimize that |
| 08:35.02 | catsup_ | otoh dd the whole disk will let you fsck in case of fs errors |
| 08:35.06 | caraconan | Well, I'm rsync |
| 08:35.11 | catsup_ | ok |
| 08:35.32 | catsup_ | rsync will report errors at the end |
| 08:35.37 | catsup_ | you might want to save its output |
| 08:35.37 | caraconan | But if it fails, I will dd |
| 08:35.47 | catsup_ | it won't fail completely even if it fails |
| 08:36.01 | caraconan | 2,5Gb now |
| 08:36.04 | caraconan | It's fast |
| 08:37.57 | niklaswe | jelly-home: okey |
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| 08:43.32 | harobed | hi, 85% [Connecting to security.debian.org (2001:a78::16)] is very slow (connection fail). Are there some security debian mirror ? |
| 08:43.45 | harobed | I don't found on security.debian.org |
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| 08:44.38 | Downer | um... i think aptitude (or possibly me :P) has fcked up a bit... |
| 08:45.23 | Downer | i did an upgrade a couple of days ago, but when i start to look at what it actually did, well its not pretty: http://paste.debian.net/49066/ |
| 08:45.37 | themill | harobed: do you actually have an ipv6 connection? |
| 08:46.05 | Downer | is there any way to find out why it removed half of gnome and other useful stuff like unzip...? |
| 08:46.29 | harobed | themill, no, I don't understand why a see ipv6 value ! |
| 08:46.38 | themill | !noipv6 |
| 08:46.39 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, noipv6 is echo "install ipv6 /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf (and reboot for the changes to take effect), or http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/409 |
| 08:46.56 | sigp239 | What is the proper way to remove a user, using the console? |
| 08:47.03 | harobed | themill, do you know where I can disable ipv6 ? |
| 08:47.18 | themill | Downer: you removed something that was part of gnome. /msg dpkg unmarkauto |
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| 08:47.44 | OpenTokix | sigp239: deluser --remove-home --remove-all-files |
| 08:48.07 | sigp239 | OpenTokix, How do you specify which user? |
| 08:48.09 | Downer | themill: i didnt remove anything, i just installed upgrades :\ |
| 08:48.38 | Downer | or so i thought |
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| 08:48.55 | OpenTokix | sigp239: deluser --remove-home --remove-all-files username |
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| 08:49.04 | OpenTokix | sigp239: man deluser |
| 08:50.11 | sigp239 | OpenTokix, thanks, got it |
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| 08:54.04 | harobed | !noipv6 |
| 08:54.04 | dpkg | noipv6 is, like, echo "install ipv6 /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf (and reboot for the changes to take effect), or http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/409 |
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| 08:55.21 | Downer | themill: what about if i just reinstall all the removed packages... will there be any scary side effects? |
| 08:55.30 | themill | Downer: the actual output of the aptitude run rather than the log would be easiesr to understand but I'm presuming you don't have that any more. Is the gnome package still installed? |
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| 08:56.04 | themill | Downer: "aptitude install gnome-desktop-environment" should be enough |
| 08:56.18 | ElToro | hi guys i am trying to install sun java using apt-get install java or apt-get -u install java-packages does not find any what is the right package name for it |
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| 08:57.03 | leaf-sheep | Hello, is there a Debian BTS Reporting bug website that I can post on, instead of using email? |
| 08:57.23 | themill | dpkg: tell ElToro about install java |
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| 08:57.42 | stf | hi |
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| 08:58.01 | themill | leaf-sheep: no, "reportbug" is the preferred method, otherwise, you can do it by a correctly formatted email. See http://bugs.debian.org/ |
| 08:58.08 | Downer | themill: i dont think i ever had the gnome meta package installed |
| 08:59.14 | themill | Downer: probably just the gnome-desktop-environment would be sufficient anyway |
| 08:59.15 | Downer | themill: ok, thanks |
| 08:59.45 | leaf-sheep | themill: Hello, I can't use reportbug. I'm using Ubuntu and I wish to file a wishlist bug for a package 'cgoban' to be updated. It have been long time for the said package. |
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| 09:01.18 | stf | ehm I've got the message "Kein Verzeichnis, Anmeldung mit HOME=/" (equal to) "No Directory, Login with HOME=/" it is happen when i run a init.d script for teamspeak and execute it with an specified username |
| 09:01.43 | stf | what does this message mean for me? |
| 09:01.59 | themill | leaf-sheep: the debian package seems to be the for the same version as the upstream website. What sort of update are you hoping for? |
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| 09:02.34 | leaf-sheep | themill: http://www.gokgs.com/download.jsp |
| 09:03.15 | leaf-sheep | themill: Also, CGoban 1 is no longer under active development. (from its original website --> http://www.igoweb.org/~wms/comp/cgoban/ ) |
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| 09:03.51 | themill | leaf-sheep: that's a completely different program. You're not looking for an update, you're looking for something brand new to be packaged. |
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| 09:05.18 | stf | I can someone of you help me now or not? |
| 09:05.19 | Krauser | hi, i did echo jiffies > /sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/current_clocksource and now the machine is in a weird state . . . it is accepting SSH connections i can do dir, ls-l and give such commands but the webserver and mysql server and top and htop and such programmes have stopped running i tried rebooting the machine with the command shutdown -r now and it does show rebooting now but doesnt actually reboot. |
| 09:05.21 | Krauser | what to do ? |
| 09:05.30 | stf | me? |
| 09:05.36 | leaf-sheep | themill: I see. Then what can I do at this point? The package 'cgoban' is not in active development and it would be logical to package cgoban3 for that said package? |
| 09:06.05 | azeem | Krauser: manually poweroff/poweron the machine? |
| 09:06.16 | Krauser | azeem, i m in ssh remotely logged |
| 09:06.27 | stf | init 6 |
| 09:06.31 | harobed | themill, I can't disable ipv6, it is compiled in kernel |
| 09:06.33 | azeem | Krauser: then why did you change the clocksource? |
| 09:06.44 | azeem | Krauser: without having a serial console or remote rebooter? |
| 09:06.44 | Krauser | azeem, i was just testing things |
| 09:06.48 | harobed | themill, how can I see to apt to use ipv4 ? |
| 09:06.50 | azeem | Krauser: ok then |
| 09:07.00 | themill | leaf-sheep: you can file a "RFP" (request for packaging) bug requesting that someone make a package of it for you. /msg dpkg rfp |
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| 09:07.02 | azeem | now can test how it takes you to get to the server :) |
| 09:07.15 | Krauser | azeem, can help me with this or not ? |
| 09:07.28 | azeem | 11:06 < stf> init 6 |
| 09:07.38 | azeem | if you told it to reboot, but it hangs; I'm not sure there is much to do |
| 09:07.39 | themill | harobed: squeeze? |
| 09:08.06 | MoLoToV | is correct to use a x86_64 compiled kernel on a 32bit distro? |
| 09:08.10 | MoLoToV | (debian) |
| 09:08.21 | stf | yes |
| 09:08.24 | harobed | themill, lenny with vserver kernel |
| 09:08.38 | MoLoToV | i have problem with sun virtualbox |
| 09:08.41 | stf | should work |
| 09:09.03 | stf | what the probs? |
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| 09:11.15 | stf | by the way can someone help me out with my prob, what does mean if he me the message "No Directory, login with home=/" what does this means to me? |
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| 09:12.41 | rvsjoen | user's home directory is missing ? |
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| 09:12.49 | themill | harobed: I know nothing about the vserver kernels; the stock lenny kernel has ipv6 compiled as a module however. There are boot time and sysctl options for disabling ipv6 too that might help. |
| 09:13.14 | stf | why he doesnt create one? |
| 09:13.17 | stf | why it |
| 09:13.28 | rvsjoen | who is 'he' or 'it' |
| 09:13.40 | stf | debian |
| 09:13.42 | stf | sry |
| 09:14.02 | azeem | stf: did it work before? |
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| 09:14.13 | cab__ | how can reload /etc/security/limits.conf without reboot ? |
| 09:14.25 | jetscreamer | source it ? |
| 09:14.33 | harobed | themill, thanks |
| 09:14.57 | rvsjoen | doesn't PAM read it on demand ? |
| 09:15.08 | stf | azeem: what do you mean, he starts the service but he only get out this message, now i only want to no, if this message is "dangerous" |
| 09:17.23 | azeem | what |
| 09:17.29 | azeem | who is "he" |
| 09:17.42 | azeem | and what service is started |
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| 09:18.36 | stf | i create a init.d script for teamspeak and with he/it i mean my system, sry |
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| 09:19.12 | jetscreamer | s/no/know/ |
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| 09:20.24 | Krauser_ | stf u deal in game servers ? |
| 09:20.33 | _stephan_ | on debian etch, apache seams to have no lfs support. apache2 can't write access log bigger than 2GB. how can i cange that? |
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| 09:20.57 | azeem | stf: what user does teamspeak start as? |
| 09:21.15 | jetscreamer | heh stf-u |
| 09:21.29 | azeem | jetscreamer: hush |
| 09:21.45 | jetscreamer | hey i didn't type it first! :) |
| 09:21.48 | Farhadix | nsadmin, Solved, I had a line in fstab, I ignored it, auto mounting starts, /media/cdrom0 /chroot/media/cdrom0 none bind 0 0 |
| 09:22.46 | stf | teamspeak get startet through a dummy user "teamspeak" which has only write permission to the directory of teamspeak |
| 09:23.47 | azeem | stf: what's its home directory? |
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| 09:23.51 | azeem | probably that doesn't exist |
| 09:24.01 | stf | krauser_: i do not realy deal with gameservers but i try out to make me a small server for Lan-Partys |
| 09:24.28 | stf | azeem, i didn't create one for it |
| 09:25.04 | azeem | stf: so if you don't like the above message, do |
| 09:25.08 | azeem | or patch teamspeak to ignore it |
| 09:25.54 | stf | ehm the message isn't from teamspeak, it is coming before teamspeaks starts |
| 09:26.12 | stf | it seems me a system own message |
| 09:26.28 | stf | which happens throug the su command |
| 09:26.45 | azeem | so |
| 09:26.52 | azeem | what command do you type when you get the message? |
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| 09:28.53 | stf | #!/bin/bash # User USER=teamspeak # Installation directory DIR=/opt/teamspeak # Run the start Script su -c "cd $DIR && $DIR/teamspeak2-server_startscript $1" - $USER |
| 09:29.07 | azeem | right |
| 09:29.08 | stf | this the scritp |
| 09:29.13 | azeem | so you run a command as user teamspeak |
| 09:29.17 | azeem | who has no home directory |
| 09:29.21 | azeem | so login complains |
| 09:29.22 | stf | yes |
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| 09:29.57 | hd409 | hello guys |
| 09:30.00 | hd409 | good afternoon |
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| 09:30.53 | hd409 | am i correct? i use "sudo apt-get install xchat" then type the root pass.it says [sudo] password for hd409: Sorry, try again. |
| 09:31.00 | hd409 | but i typed a correct pass |
| 09:31.11 | hd409 | i can access users group |
| 09:31.18 | hd409 | change my sudoer |
| 09:31.22 | hd409 | into root |
| 09:31.25 | hd409 | my username |
| 09:31.50 | hd409 | but when i do sudo apt-get install xchat, it says [sudo] password for hd409: Sorry, try again. |
| 09:31.56 | hd409 | i know my pass really |
| 09:32.07 | hd409 | not sure about the command "sudo apt-get install xchat" |
| 09:32.13 | hd409 | i usually do it on ubuntu |
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| 09:32.55 | H2S04 | hd409, there's nothing wrong with that command. |
| 09:33.06 | hd409 | H2S04 : thanks for the reply |
| 09:33.12 | H2S04 | hd409, as long as everything with sudoers is properly setup it should be okay. |
| 09:33.32 | hd409 | H2S04 : ok.i think ill reformat it again.its my 2nd time to reformat |
| 09:33.37 | hd409 | fresh install lenny here |
| 09:33.37 | H2S04 | reformat? |
| 09:33.46 | H2S04 | just because sudoers doesn't work? |
| 09:33.52 | H2S04 | that's a bit intense of a solution... |
| 09:33.53 | hd409 | yeah i cannot sudo apt-get install xchat or any file ton install |
| 09:33.54 | niklaswe | hd409: have you add your user to visudo ? |
| 09:34.12 | hd409 | niklaswe: not yet.but i added it to "root" |
| 09:34.13 | niklaswe | hd409: can you use su - [enter password] |
| 09:34.14 | hd409 | sec |
| 09:34.14 | azeem | hd409: sudo does not take the root pass |
| 09:34.26 | hd409 | azeem ahh ok |
| 09:34.34 | hd409 | niklaswe : ok i ll try now |
| 09:34.47 | azeem | you need to setup sudo first |
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| 09:34.52 | H2S04 | azeem, I would have never though to point that out. :X |
| 09:35.34 | hd409 | niklaswe it works!!!! su -.. then i enter the pass |
| 09:35.35 | hd409 | hehehehe |
| 09:35.38 | hd409 | nice |
| 09:36.18 | H2S04 | hd409, su changes you to the root account. |
| 09:36.19 | hd409 | hd409@1000:~$ su - Password: 1000:~# sudo apt-get install xchat Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree |
| 09:36.25 | hd409 | thank you thank you! |
| 09:36.26 | H2S04 | hd409, be wary you can easily hose your system. |
| 09:36.29 | hd409 | whew that was closed |
| 09:36.41 | hd409 | i reformat lately because of this.i thought my pass was wrong |
| 09:36.42 | H2S04 | hd409, after you use su you don't need to use sudo.. :P |
| 09:36.42 | niklaswe | hd409: np mate |
| 09:36.43 | hd409 | hahahaha damn |
| 09:36.43 | azeem | hd409: best to setup sudo |
| 09:36.56 | hd409 | H2S04: noted thanks |
| 09:37.02 | hd409 | whew! |
| 09:37.32 | H2S04 | just watch out for the # sign.. hd409 when that's on your console it means you are root.. |
| 09:38.22 | hd409 | i isntall debian lenny like 9am and when i try to "sudo apt-get install xchat" it says hd409: Sorry, try again..so i was thinking that my pass is wrong.so i never think to join here in the channel hehehe so i reformat at 12 noon. then install again debian |
| 09:38.27 | hd409 | what a damn noob |
| 09:38.35 | hd409 | hehehehehe |
| 09:38.37 | ElToro | dpkg install httpd |
| 09:38.37 | dpkg | ElToro: wish i knew |
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| 09:38.46 | ElToro | dpkg httpd |
| 09:38.46 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, httpd is a generic name for a <HTTP> daemon. The most common HTTP daemon program on Linux systems is <apache>. Others include <thttpd> and <lighttpd>. |
| 09:38.48 | hd409 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:38.53 | hd409 | thanks guys!!! |
| 09:39.04 | hd409 | gotta go home now |
| 09:39.08 | hd409 | oh wait |
| 09:39.15 | hd409 | saving into notepad the chat |
| 09:39.18 | hd409 | commands |
| 09:39.19 | hd409 | hehehe |
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| 09:39.41 | b_1_one | dpkg vesa |
| 09:39.42 | dpkg | VESA, arguable at least, stands for "video electronics standards association" and is a mode that can be used on vid cards for the framebuffer xserver and other neat stuff. not accelerated |
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| 09:41.42 | Andorin | Hey, guys, VLC won't play a .flv file I grabbed from my /tmp/ directory after loading it on YouTube. What gives? I thought VLC supported .flv. |
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| 09:41.52 | Andorin | Totem won't do it either, nor will xine. |
| 09:41.56 | _Hirs_ | hello |
| 09:42.01 | CharminTheMoose | hey all, I'm running debian testing and when I upgraded to jack2, I'm now geting a whole bunch of xruns, even when doing nothing at all... any ideas on how to fix this? |
| 09:42.18 | _Hirs_ | is there a channel for debian isp? (i tried #debian-isp) |
| 09:43.25 | CharminTheMoose | oops, no, I'm running jackd 0.116.2 |
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| 09:45.24 | hd409 | 05:33:54 PHT) niklaswe: hd409: have you add your user to visudo ? : i dont see "visudo" in user settings |
| 09:45.48 | azeem | hd409: what are "user settings"? |
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| 09:45.52 | azeem | visudo is a program |
| 09:46.31 | ElToro | how to copy a dir with his subdirs and files an them i am using cp /dir/* /dir2/* its not working |
| 09:46.41 | petemc | -r |
| 09:46.46 | hd409 | azeem : system > administration > user and groups |
| 09:46.59 | hd409 | i dont see "visudo" menu there |
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| 09:47.36 | _Hirs_ | How can I see a quarantined mailscanner mail? is there somthing like mutt to open it? |
| 09:47.37 | hd409 | all i see is "root" so i added my hd409 user |
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| 09:48.54 | _Hirs_ | ElToro: use cp -r |
| 09:49.05 | hd409 | azeem: ok got it on google http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/33 |
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| 09:50.08 | hd409 | hello guys can i ask 1 last question? debian supports skype video+call? for my communication on my aunt abroad |
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| 09:50.42 | azeem | hd409: no |
| 09:50.43 | azeem | hd409: skype provides a Debian package which works on Debian as well, though |
| 09:51.17 | hd409 | azeem i guess wrong question.i mean can i run skype with call+videocam? |
| 09:51.28 | azeem | see my second line |
| 09:51.32 | hd409 | according to this site http://wiki.debian.org/skype |
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| 09:51.44 | hd409 | but i dont see videocall there |
| 09:51.58 | azeem | so? |
| 09:52.14 | azeem | Debian doesn't support it, so what is written on the Debian wiki is rather irrelevant |
| 09:52.18 | azeem | ask Skype |
| 09:53.24 | hd409 | Could not download all repository indexesThe repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and ensure the repository address in the preferences is correct. |
| 09:53.35 | hd409 | http://wiki.debian.org/skype |
| 09:53.44 | hd409 | i was trying to add the deb on source list |
| 09:53.49 | hd409 | azeem ahhh ok |
| 09:53.53 | Andorin | Hey, guys, VLC won't play a .flv file I grabbed from my /tmp/ directory after loading it on YouTube. What gives? I thought VLC supported .flv. |
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| 09:54.28 | sigp239 | How do I make the gnome-terminal stay open after a running console program quits? |
| 09:54.47 | jelly | Andorin: does mplayer play it? |
| 09:55.41 | Andorin | jelly: Installing. |
| 09:56.05 | jelly | judd: versions mplayer |
| 09:56.06 | judd | jelly: mplayer -- etch: 1.0~rc1-12etch5 etch-security: 1.0~rc1-12etch7 lenny: 1.0~rc2-17+lenny3 sid: 1.0~rc3+svn20090405-1 squeeze: 1.0~rc3+svn20090405-1 etch-multimedia: 1:1.0-rc1svn20070225-0.3etch1 lenny-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20080706-0.1lenny1 squeeze-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20090906-0.1 sid-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20091001-0.1 |
| 09:56.20 | jelly | Andorin: use the build from debian-multimedia. |
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| 09:57.08 | Andorin | jelly: Will do. |
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| 09:58.17 | hipodilski | hi guys, I experience really odd problems |
| 09:59.16 | hipodilski | I have Delux Usb keyboard K5201, initially it works okay however any random time part of the keyboard keys stop working and doesn't return any keycode when I check it with xev |
| 09:59.38 | hipodilski | did somebody had experienced similar problems? I'm running Debian unstable. |
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| 10:00.52 | Andorin | jelly: Looks like it sorta plays it. I hear the audio, but the video doesn't display. |
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| 10:02.54 | jelly | eh |
| 10:03.26 | jelly | Andorin: does the stderr output suggest it cannot display video, or that it cannot decode it? |
| 10:04.28 | Andorin | jelly: stderr output? |
| 10:05.08 | jelly | Andorin: all that text it spews when you run "mplayer foo.flv" in a terminal. |
| 10:05.38 | Andorin | jelly: It keeps saying "X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)0.9% 0 0" |
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| 10:08.52 | hd409 | thanks guys |
| 10:08.54 | zalbouda | hello, how can i rebuild a debian kernel quickly if i just changed a few options? |
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| 10:09.16 | zalbouda | i guess then i should skip the 'make-kpkg clean' command |
| 10:09.38 | Andorin | jelly: And to me that sounds like my system is too taxed to play the video, but in no way is my system using anything near its limits. |
| 10:10.03 | jelly | Andorin: not that, the stuff at the beginning, Pastebin the whole output |
| 10:10.04 | zalbouda | but if directly do 'make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd --revision=008 kernel_image kernel_headers' i have an error |
| 10:10.08 | Andorin | k |
| 10:10.22 | zalbouda | i can't put 009 as version |
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| 10:11.41 | Andorin | jelly: http://pastebin.com/d7656b127 |
| 10:12.27 | jelly | Andorin: do you have X running? |
| 10:12.37 | Andorin | jelly: Yes. |
| 10:13.00 | jelly | Andorin: echo $DISPLAY set in that shell? |
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| 10:13.00 | jelly | er. |
| 10:13.05 | beli | is there a tutorial for setting up postfix/dovecot with virtual users/aliases/ on debian? |
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| 10:13.22 | jelly | Andorin: _is_ DISPLAY set in that shell? "echo $DISPLAY" to check |
| 10:13.35 | jelly | Andorin: don't run it as root. |
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| 10:13.52 | Andorin | jelly: When I run that I get ":0.0" as output. |
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| 10:14.07 | jelly | that's nice. Still, don't run mplayer as root. |
| 10:14.10 | Zitter | is there sitecopy for ssh? |
| 10:14.17 | Andorin | Alright. I'll try it out of su now. |
| 10:14.36 | jelly | (don't run anything as root unless you absolutely have to) |
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| 10:14.50 | Andorin | Nope, still doesn't work. |
| 10:15.05 | CurtisJackson | Nope, still doesn't work. |
| 10:15.14 | greenleon | Got a strange problem. I am trying to run a gameserver executable on my root-server: Output is "-bash: ./linuxjampded: No such file or directory". But the file exists. I see it with ls. If I try the same, with the same file on my local machine everything works fine. |
| 10:15.18 | jelly | !ops CurtisJackson repeater troll again |
| 10:15.18 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: jelly complains about: CurtisJackson repeater troll again |
| 10:15.20 | CurtisJackson | Got a strange problem. I am trying to run a gameserver executable on my root-server: Output is "-bash: ./linuxjampded: No such file or directory". But the file exists. I see it with ls. If I try the same, with the same file on my local machine everything works fine. |
| 10:15.26 | Andorin | >_> |
| 10:15.30 | CurtisJackson | >_> |
| 10:15.42 | jelly | Andorin: add -vo xv to the command line |
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| 10:16.10 | Andorin | jelly: Still doesn't work. |
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| 10:17.39 | jelly | Andorin: that's unusual. Pastebin the output of "xvinfo". Is there another video player running? |
| 10:18.12 | evildmp | is there a problem with python 2.6? according to some of the python folk, the debian distribution has 'butchered' it |
| 10:18.21 | Andorin | jelly: http://pastebin.com/d44013388 and no, there isn't. |
| 10:18.28 | evildmp | I have no idea whether that's the case, but I know that I can't import elementtree as I'd expect |
| 10:18.29 | NotInternat | greenleon: check that the file is executable |
| 10:18.58 | greenleon | It is. |
| 10:19.03 | greenleon | it has 777 |
| 10:19.12 | evildmp | on my old system under Python 2.5, I can import elementtree - on the new one with 2.6, I can't |
| 10:19.20 | beli | greenleon: ls -alsF ./filename |
| 10:19.24 | beli | greenleon: post result |
| 10:19.54 | themill | evildmp: python 2.6 isn't in debian yet |
| 10:19.58 | jelly | judd: versions python2.6 |
| 10:20.00 | judd | jelly: python2.6 -- experimental: 2.6.4~rc1-1 |
| 10:20.29 | jelly | evildmp: experimental packages are known to be broken. Report any bugs that haven't been reported yet. |
| 10:20.36 | evildmp | ok, thanks |
| 10:20.40 | greenleon | beli. http://pastebin.com/f185af8e9 |
| 10:20.51 | evildmp | I confess this is under Ubuntu (cough) |
| 10:21.11 | jelly | evildmp: wrong channel, then. |
| 10:21.16 | themill | evildmp: ubuntu *has* butchered python2.6 in strange and interesting ways.... ask in #ubuntu |
| 10:21.18 | beli | greenleon: ok....its not the file itself that isnt found...i guess its a script and the interpreter isnt found |
| 10:21.34 | evildmp | jelly: it is a Debian package though, isn't it? |
| 10:21.40 | jelly | evildmp: no. |
| 10:21.42 | greenleon | No its no script. Its an ELF. |
| 10:21.50 | jelly | evildmp: it's an Ubuntu package. |
| 10:22.11 | kripz_ | im using debian amd64, when using apt-get install linux-source-2.6.18, do i need to add amd64 to the end? |
| 10:22.12 | evildmp | themill: thanks - that makes sense |
| 10:22.30 | evildmp | thanks guys |
| 10:22.34 | themill | evildmp: no, ubuntu decided to go it alone on python 2.6 to get it into the next release no matter what, while debian is spending the time to get everything working properly |
| 10:22.34 | greenleon | beli. I can output file for you. http://pastebin.com/f4b40eaeb |
| 10:22.36 | beli | greenleon: ok, verify that with file ./yourfile; and try to start it with /bin/bash ./yourfile |
| 10:23.24 | greenleon | cannot execute binary file... |
| 10:23.32 | beli | greenleon: ok...verify the libs: ldd ./yourfile and check that all the libs are there |
| 10:23.33 | CharminTheMoose | hey all, I'm running debian testing and when I upgraded my packages recently, I'm now geting a whole bunch of xruns, even when doing nothing at all... any ideas on how to fix this? |
| 10:24.13 | greenleon | beli, strange, ldd says : not a dynamic executable. But I KNOW its one. It requires a lib. |
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| 10:24.29 | jelly | Andorin: sounds like your system or mplayer has issues with Xv. Try -vo x11. |
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| 10:24.40 | beli | greenleon: maybe the file is broken or not for your kernel version |
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| 10:24.49 | Andorin | jelly: In the mplayer [file] command? |
| 10:24.57 | beli | greenleon: try to srace it |
| 10:25.01 | greenleon | its not broken. If I download it and try it on my local machine it works. |
| 10:25.01 | jelly | Andorin: right, mplayer -vo x11 foo.flv |
| 10:25.32 | greenleon | you can try yourself http://games.green-side.de/linuxjampded |
| 10:25.35 | Andorin | jelly: Oh, hooray, now it's working. |
| 10:25.50 | greenleon | beli, you mean strace? |
| 10:25.51 | beli | greenleon: no sorry, i wont run foreign binaries on my box |
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| 10:26.02 | greenleon | beli, okay ^^ |
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| 10:26.07 | beli | greenleon: yes... strace ./yourfile and check/post the output |
| 10:26.15 | jelly | Andorin: restarting X may or may not fix the xv output method. xv is accelerated and can be resized and fullscreened without much cpu usage |
| 10:26.55 | greenleon | http://pastebin.com/f4e112408 |
| 10:27.13 | Andorin | jelly: Handy. Okay, let me restart it. |
| 10:27.27 | jelly | Andorin: since you seem to have an Intel video card, vo gl2 might work (better than vo x11) as well. |
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| 10:28.20 | Andorin | jelly: Nope, I still have to use -xv x11 in the command. |
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| 10:30.57 | beli | greenleon: whats the kernel version of your local box and the remote box? check with uname -a |
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| 10:31.19 | jelly | Andorin: just for fun, try -vo xv:port=124 |
| 10:31.23 | buntfalke | hi |
| 10:31.38 | greenleon | Remote is 2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 |
| 10:31.53 | Andorin | jelly: Works. |
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| 10:32.22 | jelly | Andorin: you can put vo = xv:port=124 in your ~/.mplayer/config |
| 10:32.27 | buntfalke | Is there a way to program timers which are relative to real time? For example "sleep 10" doesn't "continue counting" while the machine is in suspend to ram. Though, if time runs out, I would like to have the timeout right after wakeup. How to do this? |
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| 10:32.52 | jelly | Andorin: rtfm for details, sorry; I'm afk |
| 10:33.03 | greenleon | local is a 2.6.31 |
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| 10:33.21 | beli | greenleon: is the filesystem mounted with noexec flag maybe? |
| 10:34.29 | greenleon | jelli, nope |
| 10:35.00 | greenleon | uhm, beli i mean^^ |
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| 10:37.12 | beli | greenleon: try: ./yourfile; echo $? |
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| 10:38.41 | greenleon | 127 |
| 10:38.58 | beli | greenleon: maybe the binary needs some parameters like config file |
| 10:40.05 | greenleon | Tu run right, it needs them. But not to simply start. A collegue simply downloaded the file and the single needed lib and ran it. No probs. |
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| 10:40.58 | beli | greenleon: ldd should really show you the libs it needs if its dynamically linked |
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| 10:41.12 | greenleon | thats strange, indeed |
| 10:41.22 | greenleon | wait i'm gonna try it on my local machine |
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| 10:42.26 | kripz_ | whats the opposite to rmmod |
| 10:42.51 | koollman | kripz_: insmod |
| 10:42.55 | kripz_ | thx |
| 10:43.00 | simonrvn | !insmod |
| 10:43.01 | dpkg | Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"?, or modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet?. Taunting Happy Fun Ball causes cancer |
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| 10:43.59 | simonrvn | kripz_: ^^^ |
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| 10:45.12 | silidan | hi, i could not find jack2 in the sid repos...is it planend to add it or will it never be in ? |
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| 10:45.30 | greenleon | beli, wtf. I ldd'd the file on my this pc and it showed about 6 libs. |
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| 10:45.56 | simonrvn | that's not unusual |
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| 10:47.13 | greenleon | Whats wrong with my root-server?? |
| 10:47.25 | greenleon | something seems terribly wrong |
| 10:47.47 | simonrvn | root server? |
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| 10:48.24 | greenleon | yep, the problem, beli was helping me to fix.. |
| 10:48.35 | themill | moves greenleon to sweden for root-server goodness... |
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| 10:51.51 | Andorin | jelly: Before I forget, thanks a lot for your help. |
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| 10:54.26 | greenleon | beli, out of ideas? |
| 10:54.52 | flikka | everytime i reboot i have to restart ntp to get it to sync |
| 10:54.59 | flikka | how can i fix this? |
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| 10:58.00 | simonrvn | flikka: 'why' is the bigger question? |
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| 10:58.11 | simonrvn | s,?,., |
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| 10:58.50 | flikka | simonrvn: idk, i just not want to restart it every time i reboot |
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| 11:00.11 | simonrvn | find out, you'll find the solution. first thought was the most obvious: starts too early, before the network's up. |
| 11:00.25 | Kapelzor | hi, is there any rt61 user here ? |
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| 11:01.11 | Kapelzor | or any modprobe expert ? |
| 11:01.17 | sigp239 | Can anyone tell me why this does not work? i.e. When I click either button, it does not reboot or shutdown the computer. http://fpaste.org/mxBa/ |
| 11:01.18 | sigp239 | Thanks |
| 11:01.33 | themill | !rt61 |
| 11:01.33 | dpkg | Ralink RT61 PCI chipsets (RT2501/RT2561, RT2600/RT2661) are supported by the next-generation driver (rt61pci), included in mainline kernels since 2.6.24. Firmware is required, ask me about <ralink firmware> to install. For driver and firmware installation on Etch systems, see http://wiki.debian.org/rt61pci |
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| 11:02.55 | Kapelzor | yeah, great my problem is when I want to modrpobe a driver compiled form the rt61-cvs package |
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| 11:04.26 | Kapelzor | To be exact: FATAL: Error inserting rt61 (/lib/modules/2.6.30-1-686/extra/rt61.ko): Invalid module format |
| 11:04.33 | Kapelzor | any idea ? |
| 11:04.57 | BenB | anybody who has an email account at a big ISP (even if you don't use it), please check <http://ispdb.mozillamessaging.com/list> whether it's listed there, and if not, please add the configuration (servers, SSL yes/no etc.). if it's listed as pending, please test the configuration with your account and tell me the result. This is for Thunderbird 3 (and potentially other mailers) <https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Autoconfiguration> |
| 11:05.16 | __Dave123_ | when I do echo $SHELL I get /bin/sh instead of /bin/bash and .bash_profile and .bashrc are not working |
| 11:05.25 | __Dave123_ | how can I get it back to /bin/bash for my user? |
| 11:05.28 | simonrvn | driver from another kernel perhaps. |
| 11:05.40 | simonrvn | __Dave123_: chsh |
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| 11:06.04 | simonrvn | !wb |
| 11:06.05 | dpkg | thanks, simonrvn. It's good to be back. |
| 11:06.57 | Kapelzor | simonrvn: the worst thing that on the older kernel it dosent want to compile o.O |
| 11:06.57 | __Dave123_ | chsh ? simonrvn |
| 11:06.57 | __Dave123_ | simonrvn: im not su |
| 11:06.57 | greenleon | deli, fixed. needed ia32-libs Oo |
| 11:06.57 | simonrvn | it's a command. use it and be happy. |
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| 11:07.01 | __Dave123_ | but i need a pass |
| 11:07.13 | simonrvn | yeh, yours. |
| 11:07.18 | __Dave123_ | simonrvn: chsh: PAM authentication failed |
| 11:07.28 | __Dave123_ | maybe no rights for this? isn't there some other way to do it? |
| 11:07.50 | simonrvn | what does id spit out? |
| 11:08.13 | __Dave123_ | uid=5001(nick) gid=5001(nick) groups=5001(nick) |
| 11:08.29 | simonrvn | er? |
| 11:08.38 | __Dave123_ | ? |
| 11:08.48 | __Dave123_ | whats up |
| 11:08.58 | simonrvn | nm. i guess you're on a multiuser box. |
| 11:09.08 | __Dave123_ | simonrvn: yes am |
| 11:09.43 | simonrvn | can you su - nick ? |
| 11:09.58 | __Dave123_ | maybe but why ? i'm already on this nick |
| 11:10.13 | simonrvn | try it |
| 11:10.26 | __Dave123_ | works |
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| 11:10.29 | __Dave123_ | and now? |
| 11:10.55 | mhymn | anyway, does it really matter? /bin/sh here's a link to /bin/bash |
| 11:10.58 | simonrvn | ok, exit that now. chsh ordinarily should also work. |
| 11:11.06 | simonrvn | but it isn't. bug your admin. |
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| 11:11.39 | Emery | When i apt-get update .. i get Failed to fetch http://blah ... i've tried ifconfig eth0 up .. not sure what the problem is |
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| 11:12.27 | __Dave123_ | simonrvn: with chsh i can set that I have another shell I use? |
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| 11:16.35 | beli | greenleon: install that libs |
| 11:16.54 | greenleon | beli, yep i did and it works :-) |
| 11:17.09 | beli | greenleon: ah ok, i was off for lunch sorry |
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| 11:23.54 | Emery | When i apt-get update .. i get Failed to fetch http://blah ... i've tried ifconfig eth0 up .. not sure what the problem is |
| 11:24.37 | zErOaCid | Emery: can you ping website ? |
| 11:24.57 | Emery | Well my browser won't load any sites |
| 11:25.03 | Emery | So i'm guessing not |
| 11:25.34 | ukl | hmm. Just updated my squeeze system, used m-a to get a nvidia module, now X11 (and kde4) start again but some colors seem messed up (the title bar of any window) -- any ideas? |
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| 11:28.44 | Emery | zErOaCid, Well my browser won't load any sites, so i'm guessing not |
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| 11:30.38 | nassrat | ddrescue recovered my partition, but now my system thinks my partition is smaller than it is. Can an1 here help, or point me to an irc channel? |
| 11:31.29 | Xenguy | nassrat: gparted or qtparted? Just a suggestion, and I have to run |
| 11:31.42 | nassrat | yeah, im using parted |
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| 11:31.52 | nassrat | well actually parted reports the right sizes :( |
| 11:32.01 | Xenguy | nassrat: those will resize partitions, and I hear the GUI's are simpler to use |
| 11:32.21 | nassrat | they are, im currently not running X though |
| 11:32.21 | Xenguy | ahh, OK, I have to get to work, so good luck |
| 11:32.27 | nassrat | thx |
| 11:33.55 | nassrat | resize2fs did the trick, but there should be an easier way to manipulate an ext3 part. rather than -O^has_journal, e2fsck (which always sounds like a swear word) |
| 11:34.21 | Emery | f*ck |
| 11:34.22 | Emery | ;x |
| 11:34.31 | Penix | !giggle |
| 11:34.31 | dpkg | teeheehee! |
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| 11:35.04 | Emery | haha ! ;D |
| 11:38.39 | __Dave123_ | anyone know where i can see if my distro/OS is debian? |
| 11:38.53 | nassrat | lol |
| 11:38.53 | jelly | !version |
| 11:38.54 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a, or cat /proc/version. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distributions. |
| 11:39.15 | nassrat | __Dave123_: sorry for laughing |
| 11:39.25 | jelly | __Dave123_: Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1 [...] lsb_release -a |
| 11:39.33 | nassrat | i imagined someone sleep walking in an installfest |
| 11:39.47 | __Dave123_ | thnks |
| 11:40.06 | nassrat | wow dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1 [...] |
| 11:40.10 | nassrat | does that work |
| 11:40.20 | jelly | !tias |
| 11:40.20 | dpkg | TIAS is "Try It And See"... or what you could have done first. |
| 11:40.26 | nassrat | hey wait whats the [...] |
| 11:40.55 | jelly | !penixstrike nassrat |
| 11:40.56 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking nassrat to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
| 11:41.04 | jelly | \o/ |
| 11:41.50 | marcin_ | Hi. I want change order of my ethernet devices with udev. I setup these rules: http://pastebin.com/m24cc8e1f (MAC are correct) but it doesn't work. eth0 and eth3 are used as bond0 interface. What's wrong? |
| 11:42.22 | nassrat | jelly: no really whats the [...] |
| 11:42.33 | nassrat | is that a shell feature |
| 11:42.52 | jelly | it's a [i cut this irrelevant part of quote] |
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| 11:43.21 | nassrat | jelly: ohh thats from dpkg's message |
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| 11:43.42 | nassrat | wait so i don't need the [...], that was the end of that cpmmand |
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| 11:43.53 | jelly | yes. |
| 11:43.57 | themill | dpkg, confuse nassrat |
| 11:43.57 | dpkg | Yes, how is their weasel tomorrow, nassrat? Breeches of the People's Republic of Liechtenstein with extra crabpaste. |
| 11:44.46 | taleon | Hey all. |
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| 11:45.27 | lydgate | anyone know whether google uses debian internally? |
| 11:46.28 | nassrat | dpkg: are you talking about the ice weasel cause thats confusiong |
| 11:46.29 | dpkg | nassrat: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 11:46.35 | nassrat | lol |
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| 11:47.06 | nassrat | lydgate: since google seems smart I would have to say yes, but no evidence other than that |
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| 11:47.52 | lydgate | nassrat: this seems like some kind of evidence http://code.google.com/p/debmarshal/ |
| 11:48.19 | lydgate | but i was just wondering whether anyone had any more specific information |
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| 11:49.55 | nassrat | lydgate: since google seems smart I would have to say yes, but no evidence other than that |
| 11:50.03 | nassrat | sorry i was scrolled up |
| 11:50.28 | nassrat | lydgate: why do you work for said google |
| 11:50.46 | nassrat | lydgate: nice link |
| 11:51.14 | nassrat | do the people maintaining it work for google |
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| 11:51.38 | lydgate | nassrat: yes |
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| 11:52.02 | lydgate | it could mean that they just happen to use debian themselves, but it kind of seems like that app is for a corporation |
| 11:52.08 | jelly | wonders is nassrat is a rather clever troll |
| 11:52.11 | jelly | if* |
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| 11:52.34 | themill | nassrat, lydgate: perhaps take this to #debian-offtopic or a /msg |
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| 11:53.10 | lydgate | k |
| 11:53.11 | daiver | hello. i have a problem. i've installed debian via net-install cd on last thursday.. worked on it til the end of the week, when i arrived back to work on monday and booted my pc .. upon start it was unable to detect network device.. thus i thought it was a hardware problem.. changed pc and installed debian once again.. that was two days ago.. just about 5 minutes ago i'm having the same issue.. i've rebooted pc and immediately received the same error.. it |
| 11:53.12 | daiver | asked me if i want to report kernel errors and stuff.. so, another pc cannot detect network device once again.. P.S. when i tried to reinstall from a cd, first thing it complained about was saying that there is no ethernet installed. please, help. |
| 11:53.16 | nassrat | jelly: i like trolling |
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| 11:53.35 | jelly | doesn't give a rat's ass |
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| 11:54.18 | Albertox | hi |
| 11:54.40 | Albertox | does somebody know how can I put the apache file list in a html made by me? |
| 11:54.41 | Albertox | thanks |
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| 11:55.28 | daiver | Albertox, if you use php, see doc on glob() function |
| 11:55.49 | Albertox | daiver: i am not using php now... |
| 11:55.54 | Albertox | I just installed apache2 |
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| 11:56.02 | themill | Albertox: perhaps you're looking for the HeaderName and ReademeName directives. See http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_autoindex.html#headername |
| 11:56.10 | Albertox | and rename index.html to index2.html so now I have a list of files |
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| 11:56.21 | Albertox | i want that list inside another html made by me with images etc |
| 11:56.24 | Albertox | in a box |
| 11:56.26 | Albertox | is posible? |
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| 11:57.17 | daiver | HELP! PLEASE! |
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| 11:59.45 | CharminTheMoose | hey all, I'm running debian testing and when I upgraded my packages recently, I'm now geting a whole bunch of xruns, even when doing nothing at all... any ideas on how to fix this? |
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| 12:05.15 | xrfang | hello, is there any good and lightweight viewer for RFC822 email messages? (I don't want to use evolution) |
| 12:05.26 | lvh | xrfang: mutt |
| 12:05.27 | taleon | mutt |
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| 12:05.45 | xrfang | thanks I will try that. is it under X or console? |
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| 12:06.34 | themill | xrfang: depends what you mean by "viewer". Obviously "less" can view the message... |
| 12:07.02 | xrfang | themill ;) I want to view it nicely as e.g. hit an eml file on windows will open outlook express... |
| 12:07.17 | daiver | hello. i have a problem. i've installed debian via net-install cd on last thursday.. worked on it til the end of the week, when i arrived back to work on monday and booted my pc .. upon start it was unable to detect network device.. thus i thought it was a hardware problem.. changed pc and installed debian once again.. that was two days ago.. just about 5 minutes ago i'm having the same issue.. i've rebooted pc and immediately received the same error.. it |
| 12:07.17 | daiver | asked me if i want to report kernel errors and stuff.. so, another pc cannot detect network device once again.. P.S. when i tried to reinstall from a cd, first thing it complained about was saying that there is no ethernet installed. please, help. |
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| 12:08.49 | wertik_rus | hi all |
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| 12:11.50 | wols_ | daiver: need more info. what kind of network card? |
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| 12:12.52 | daiver | wols_, onboard Intell |
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| 12:13.47 | wols_ | still need more info |
| 12:14.20 | daiver | what possibly could have happened that it's so bad that even install cd cannot detect netcard? |
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| 12:14.52 | jelly | daiver: missing firmware or too lod kernel on the installer or both |
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| 12:15.05 | jelly | !kmuto |
| 12:15.05 | dpkg | For Debian Lenny (or Etch) installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ . The included <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files in 0627 images are required to be moved prior to network hardware detection, see comments of http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2630-lenny.htm |
| 12:15.12 | wols_ | intel wired NICs now use firmware? |
| 12:15.23 | jelly | wols_: some e1000e do I think |
| 12:15.32 | wols_ | what morons |
| 12:15.35 | jelly | might be mistaken tho |
| 12:15.56 | daiver | jelly did read what I have posted? I WAS WORKING ! |
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| 12:17.19 | jelly | daiver: is the device present in lspci output? |
| 12:19.29 | jelly | [it was working] eh, I haven't read it all O:-) |
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| 12:23.12 | daiver | jelly on computer i now working there is, on computer that has problem - NO |
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| 12:24.28 | RichiH | i know i've been talking about this before, but i forgot the name of the company... i need suggestions on small, cheap boxes with at least 3 ethernet ports, 4 gigabit would be better. cpu should be i386 but i will look at arm as well |
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| 12:26.22 | jelly | daiver: the two boxes have the same hardware? |
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| 12:27.04 | daiver | jelly, yes |
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| 12:27.53 | daiver | jelly, also the previous pc (first one to encounter the same problem) had the same hardware |
| 12:28.02 | jelly | daiver: well. This sounds a bit like the e1000e killing bug from 2.6.27-rc1 a year ago, but Debian stable installer uses 2.6.26 which is supposed to be safe from that |
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| 12:33.16 | alinux | hi did use apt-get to install tcpdump however..tcpdump -vv is capturing zero files although I am pinging from the server and connected to it through ssh |
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| 12:34.30 | daiver | jelly and? what can I do? |
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| 12:37.19 | mquin | RichiH: http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Commell-LE575/ |
| 12:37.35 | karme | hi! ist there a special tool for mysql database recovery from a corrupted fs? |
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| 12:37.42 | jelly | daiver: Intel had released a tool to fix those cards, can't find it at present. |
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| 12:38.44 | Titan8990 | alinux, try specifying the interface |
| 12:39.03 | alinux | Titan8990, did try with tcpdump -i eth0 vv |
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| 12:39.23 | alinux | Titan8990, did also try to ifconfig eth0 promisc to force promisc mode |
| 12:40.01 | Titan8990 | alinux, is it entering promisc mode? |
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| 12:41.54 | alinux | Titan8990, when I force using ifconfig yes...when I start tcpdump..ifconfig does not show the interface in promisc mode...all running as root of course |
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| 12:45.35 | Shtl | Hi all |
| 12:46.02 | Titan8990 | alinux, is this a cli only system? |
| 12:46.26 | alinux | Titan8990, yes |
| 12:47.01 | daya | I have a little bit error in configuration of ftp,550 chaned to directory while accessing via browser, but same works via ftp command line tool |
| 12:47.03 | daya | any help |
| 12:48.34 | alinux | Titan8990, actually tcpdump does occasionally fetch some data but not all the time for example I am connected through ssh it should keep scrolling down ssh packets..however in 3 minutes it displayed 8 packets |
| 12:48.42 | Shtl | i connected to a remote system in LAN through ssh, now i want to run an application their, rt now what is happening is, i can run it but when i shut down my system that application also dying, can any one help me please |
| 12:49.01 | Titan8990 | alinux, is the machine bridging two networks? |
| 12:49.06 | alinux | Shtl, use screen or check if the application has titan mode |
| 12:49.16 | alinux | Titan8990, no just a simple server |
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| 12:49.37 | alinux | Shtl, deamon mode :p |
| 12:50.10 | Shtl | alinux: the process can be like kget, ktorrent .... |
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| 12:50.52 | daiver | jelly xm |
| 12:51.30 | Titan8990 | Shtl, sounds like you want VNC |
| 12:51.54 | Shtl | Titan8990: VNC? |
| 12:52.31 | Titan8990 | Shtl, its a protocol for remote gui... you want to run an application and the user at the remote location to see what your doing? |
| 12:53.05 | Titan8990 | alinux, when you kill tcpdump does it list a lot of packets dropped by kernel? |
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| 12:53.21 | Shtl | ok, so i have to use VNC?? |
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| 12:53.43 | Titan8990 | you don't have to... you can use whatever you want, that was just my suggestion |
| 12:53.56 | alinux | Titan8990, no nothing is shown |
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| 12:54.49 | Titan8990 | alinux, you don't get output like this when you kill it? http://pastebin.ca/1619280 |
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| 12:55.17 | jelly | Shtl: is it an X app or a console one? |
| 12:55.48 | jelly | Shtl: if it's a terminal app, you can use screen to leave it running. |
| 12:55.50 | ignotus | hello, what is a console tool to apt? Aptitude? I would like to have a list of installed packages and be able to remove packages from there. (I use command line apt always otherwise.) |
| 12:55.52 | Shtl | jelly: ofcourse ktorrent is an X application |
| 12:56.05 | catsup_ | you should probably use a different torrent app actually |
| 12:56.06 | slacker_nl | anyone heard of people complaining about cracking sounds when visiting youtube or other sites which use flash movies in firefox? |
| 12:56.23 | catsup_ | the terminal will work much better |
| 12:56.30 | pingouin | someone can remind me wich application, in command line help me to have some modeline for xorg.conf ? |
| 12:56.35 | themill | ignotus: if you're looking for interactive package management, try aptitude |
| 12:56.50 | darksk1ez | i can made my raid controller work by echoing its pci id to the new_id in sysfs, can i pass it as a kernel parameter ? |
| 12:56.51 | ignotus | themill: yes, thanks |
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| 12:57.13 | catsup_ | pingouin: type 'apropos modes' |
| 12:57.19 | alinux | Titan8990, do you stop it using ctrl +z ? |
| 12:57.23 | themill | ignotus: actually, it's recommended that you use aptitude instead of apt-get anyway. /msg dpkg why aptitude |
| 12:57.43 | rvsjoen | pingouin: xvidtune ? |
| 12:57.53 | ignotus | themill: hmm I did not know that, thanks! |
| 12:57.54 | catsup_ | [i get a couple good hits: some_modes (1) - generate common Modelines for Xorg and fbset videogen (1) - generate Modelines for XFree86 servers] |
| 12:58.13 | catsup_ | aptitude overrated :\ |
| 12:58.16 | jelly | darksk1ez: where in sysfs? If you're configuring a driver, try using modinfo drivername to see available options. |
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| 12:58.37 | Titan8990 | alinux, ctrl + c |
| 12:58.37 | darksk1ez | echo 8086 3a25 > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/ahci/new_id |
| 12:59.03 | Titan8990 | alinux, z only suspends the proc |
| 12:59.03 | darksk1ez | its not a module parameter per-se |
| 12:59.13 | pingouin | catsup_: thanks, gtf and cvt do it ;) |
| 12:59.34 | themill | catsup_: aptitude tries harder to solve problems rather than just giving up and its interactive resolver is much better than trying to do things with apt-get. |
| 12:59.38 | jelly | darksk1ez: there's sysfsutils |
| 12:59.59 | jelly | darksk1ez: (like /etc/sysctl.conf but for /sys) |
| 13:00.00 | alinux | Titan8990, ctrl +c works for ping ...but when I use it against tcpdump it only displays ^C |
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| 13:00.03 | catsup_ | themill: supposedly |
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| 13:00.12 | darksk1ez | jelly, i need to pass as a kernel param |
| 13:00.23 | themill | catsup_: no, really. I'm talking from experience here. |
| 13:00.31 | darksk1ez | to get the rootfs mounted =] |
| 13:00.32 | Titan8990 | alinux, what version of debian are you using? |
| 13:00.37 | jelly | darksk1ez: would setting it in initramfs work? |
| 13:00.38 | catsup_ | oh right well of course i'm not |
| 13:00.45 | darksk1ez | jelly, probably, yep |
| 13:00.50 | jelly | well then. :-) |
| 13:00.55 | alinux | Titan8990, Lenny |
| 13:00.59 | daiver | jelly where can I find such tool? |
| 13:01.30 | catsup_ | aptitude can run forever trying to find some solution |
| 13:01.40 | jelly | daiver: I have no idea, and I won't google instead of you, sorry. |
| 13:01.53 | Shtl | Any CLI- terminal based bittorrents available for linux??? |
| 13:02.01 | jelly | Shtl: rtorrent is half-decent |
| 13:02.22 | themill | catsup_: no, it times out and asks you if it wants to continue. In such situations, you can guide the resolver towards a sane solution, but these situations are quite rare unless you're doing strange pinning or mixing releases. |
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| 13:02.50 | catsup_ | well you're not informing me of anything |
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| 13:03.22 | Hukka | Trying to create a kernel from vanilla sources. Have set INITRD=1 and also given --initrd to make-kpkg. Still it doesn't do it. Getting quite frustrated, what's going wrong? |
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| 13:03.49 | Titan8990 | alinux, really not sure what the problem could be |
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| 13:04.00 | Hukka | (make-kpkg 12.0.22, linux 2.6.31.4) |
| 13:04.04 | Titan8990 | alinux, the proc not killing via ctrl+c is not normal behavior |
| 13:04.22 | jelly | daiver: I guess e1000e linux bug would be some nice starting keywords |
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| 13:04.46 | nocturn_ | Anyone know how I can install an Ubuntu Hardy DomU on a Lenny Dom0? |
| 13:05.16 | OpenTokix | nocturn_: Xen? |
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| 13:06.03 | nocturn_ | OpenTokix, yes |
| 13:06.48 | daiver | jelly thanks! |
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| 13:07.07 | petemc | nocturn_: debootstrap |
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| 13:07.49 | din_os_ | I am getting a weird message when executing terminal as root, an extra message appears "Failed to contact configuration server" |
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| 13:08.16 | nocturn_ | petemc, thanks, but I need to find out how to get it on there exactly, I'm also using logical volumes instead of disk images |
| 13:08.48 | petemc | nocturn_: so read up on debootstrap |
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| 13:08.55 | Titan8990 | nocturn_, #xen? |
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| 13:14.30 | lolufail | oh hai guise |
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| 13:16.15 | lolufail | I saved a lvm2-lv into a .iso using dd. now the lvm2 is gone, but I cannot mount the iso, because it has a partition table with 2 partitions. fdisk reports there should be a /dev/loop0p1, yet there isn't, is this a udev problem? |
| 13:16.49 | OpenTokix | lolufail: kpartx -a |
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| 13:16.53 | OpenTokix | lolufail: man kpartx |
| 13:18.30 | lolufail | OpenTokix: very awesome. thanks :D |
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| 13:19.59 | jelly | slicing and dicing block devices since 1997. |
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| 13:20.14 | OpenTokix | lolufail: yeah, it is awesome - I use it all the time =) |
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| 13:21.25 | lolufail | jelly: I encountered a brewery yesterday, advertising with "since 1999" |
| 13:21.41 | lolufail | -.- |
| 13:21.46 | jelly | lolufail: that's a whole decade ya know. |
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| 13:21.50 | lolufail | yeeeah ;) |
| 13:22.16 | lolufail | all the other brewereys around here are since 1643 ;) |
| 13:22.34 | themill | lolufail: ECHAN |
| 13:23.04 | lolufail | sry 4 offtopic |
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| 13:24.27 | lolufail | when I create a new network interface, he doesnt not seem to read the sysctl.conf "*.ip4.*.default.forward" settings, do I have to reboot for that? |
| 13:24.40 | OpenTokix | lolufail: sysctl -p |
| 13:24.50 | OpenTokix | lolufail: reads file and changes whatever needs chaning |
| 13:24.55 | lolufail | did that |
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| 13:25.06 | lolufail | hmmn |
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| 13:29.00 | martianlobster | I am trying to return all the non empty lines in a file. I am trying egrep -v '^\n' , but it isn't working. Somehow the \n isn't being mapped to the carriage return. How do I specify '^carriage return' ? |
| 13:29.44 | jelly | martianlobster: like ^ for the beginning of the line, $ means end-of-the-line |
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| 13:30.15 | martianlobster | jelly, I understand that part, but how do I specify carriage return? I thought it was \n, but that isn't working |
| 13:30.27 | jelly | martianlobster: you don't |
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| 13:30.47 | jelly | oh... CR? |
| 13:30.48 | jelly | \r |
| 13:31.01 | Meths | grep -v "^$" will do what you want |
| 13:31.05 | jelly | line feed (\n) is the unix line delimiter |
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| 13:31.36 | jelly | less strictly, egrep -v '^[[:blank:]]*$' will get rid of any line that is empty or only contains blanks |
| 13:31.45 | martianlobster | I will try thant |
| 13:32.07 | martianlobster | jelly, that's great, that is whaat I need. Thanks! |
| 13:32.23 | mquin | g32 |
| 13:32.58 | jelly | if you ever use that on a non-Linux system, note that [[:blank:]] only works with GNU grep |
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| 13:33.13 | martianlobster | jelly: ok thanks |
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| 13:33.49 | RichiH | mquin: thanks, btw |
| 13:34.16 | ranix | \n is a newline |
| 13:34.21 | ranix | \r is a carriage return |
| 13:34.44 | RichiH | and of the four possible combinations, three are valid :p |
| 13:35.01 | martianlobster | how is an empty line specified? |
| 13:35.05 | ranix | depends |
| 13:35.16 | ranix | dos format is crlf, \r\n |
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| 13:35.19 | lolufail | do you see any security problems with mount -o binding a shared directory to several openvz vms? |
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| 13:35.24 | ranix | unix format is lf only, \r |
| 13:35.30 | RichiH | martianlobster: ^$ is the encoding-agnostic version |
| 13:35.32 | lolufail | rather than nfs |
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| 13:35.37 | martianlobster | RichiH: ok thanks |
| 13:36.17 | RichiH | hrm, i edited /etc/resolv.conf but i still see requests hit the old DNS server... any idea why (and how i could fix this)? |
| 13:36.31 | ranix | !resolv.conf |
| 13:36.31 | dpkg | somebody said resolv.conf was /etc/resolv.conf, resolver configuration file that contains your nameserver IPs. It's written by your DHCP client. To use different nameservers than those provided by DHCP, ask me about <override dns>. See also <fixresolvconf>. |
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| 13:37.01 | jelly | lolufail: I wouldn't do it, but don't have a concrete reason. |
| 13:37.19 | mquin | RichiH: np. What application do you have in mind for it, if I might ask? |
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| 13:37.35 | RichiH | mquin: routers |
| 13:37.47 | RichiH | as in dsl routers at customer locations |
| 13:37.47 | Shtl | jelly: i installed rtorrent and i am running also at remote system, now i want to use "screen" |
| 13:38.01 | jelly | !screen |
| 13:38.01 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, screen is a terminal multiplexor, allowing you to have n terminals and easily switch between them, add keybindings, scroll back, copy/paste and lets you resume all your sessions if your terminal dies or are disconnected. "aptitude install screen". See /usr/share/doc/screen/README.Debian and also ask me about <screen tutorial>. http://www.gnu.org/software/screen #screen on irc.freenode.net. |
| 13:38.07 | mquin | aha, cool |
| 13:38.13 | RichiH | your link might be overkill (well, it _is), but they are still interesting for higher-level stuff |
| 13:38.14 | Shtl | to make it to run even when i shut down my system, how should i do this?? |
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| 13:38.19 | jelly | !tell Shtl -about screen tutorial |
| 13:38.23 | lolufail | I need a lightweight window manager with taskbar for vnc/NX inside a VM, please recommend one |
| 13:38.26 | lolufail | xfce4? |
| 13:38.44 | ranix | sure |
| 13:38.46 | jelly | Shtl: basically you just run "screen" when you log in for the first time. Then run an app inside screen. |
| 13:38.48 | abrotman | that's lightweight these day? |
| 13:38.49 | abrotman | days? |
| 13:39.00 | Meths | Anyone compiled and booted a vanilla (or non-debian) kernel on a debian system running with the encrypted LVM from setup? |
| 13:39.00 | RichiH | ranix: not really applicable in my case, but thanks |
| 13:39.03 | ranix | xfce4 is middleweight |
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| 13:39.09 | lolufail | abrotman: well fluxbox is too lightweight ;) |
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| 13:39.29 | lolufail | I just done want all the gnome games and stuff, otherwise I'd just use that |
| 13:39.41 | ranix | RichiH: did you read override dns? |
| 13:39.43 | jelly | lolufail: lxde? |
| 13:39.43 | superjet_busy | lolufail: icewm |
| 13:39.59 | abrotman | i'd consider that lightweight and something like ratpoison featherweight |
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| 13:40.31 | ranix | ratpoison is more like bantam weight |
| 13:40.47 | ranix | or like midget wrestling |
| 13:40.51 | jelly | gnome + compiz! |
| 13:40.55 | RichiH | ranix: yes. i already set different ones (and i don't use dhcp on thexe boxes, anyway) |
| 13:41.03 | ranix | flashes jelly the sign to ward off the Evil Eye |
| 13:41.05 | RichiH | problem is, they are not being used |
| 13:41.26 | Dr_ | halp! i just instlled debain and trnsfd all my favourite pgrms from my windowz pc.. it wont work HALP! |
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| 13:42.47 | lolufail | hmm does NX-server provide the xorg metapackage? |
| 13:42.56 | abrotman | nx isn't in debian |
| 13:43.17 | lolufail | hm |
| 13:44.00 | lolufail | so you'd recommend against it? |
| 13:44.08 | ranix | judd: versions nxclient |
| 13:44.09 | judd | ranix: nxclient -- |
| 13:44.13 | ranix | weird |
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| 13:44.50 | ranix | I only have lenny main, contrib, non-free, backports, and dmm in my sources.list and apt-cache search nx shows nxclient and nxserver |
| 13:44.55 | abrotman | i believe it's not freely redistributed ? |
| 13:45.00 | sigp239 | How do you tell what is included in a package like gnome-games? |
| 13:45.04 | abrotman | ranix: dmm i beleive |
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| 13:46.16 | mick_laptop | OT question, "call after 10am" -- does that mean to call at 10:01am or call at 11am |
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| 13:46.29 | abrotman | seriously? |
| 13:46.37 | mick_laptop | yup, seriously |
| 13:46.53 | mquin | RichiH: some applications (haven't looked into it in depth enought to say whether it's app-specific or a libc thing) only read the resolv.conf at startup - subsequent lookups will use the servers specified even if the file is changed unless the application is restarted |
| 13:46.58 | mick_laptop | i figure 10:01 is ok, but i didn't want to call too early |
| 13:47.29 | mick_laptop | the reason that this matters is that i haven't gone to sleep yet and i'm exhausted |
| 13:47.43 | mick_laptop | i can't wait another hour |
| 13:48.44 | lolufail | mick_laptop: after means > |
| 13:48.49 | lolufail | just not >= |
| 13:49.02 | lolufail | therefore, wait 1 microsecond as the clock turns 10:00 |
| 13:49.04 | lolufail | and call |
| 13:49.26 | mick_laptop | ranix: there is a free client and server for nx (somewhere on code.google.com) |
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| 13:49.40 | lolufail | mick_laptop: yeah but it sucks |
| 13:49.48 | lolufail | no comparison to the nomachine one |
| 13:50.05 | mick_laptop | haven't tried it, i just know it exists |
| 13:50.34 | lolufail | good ;) no flameware coming from the freesoftwarefoundation guys? I'm surprised ;) |
| 13:50.42 | abrotman | mick_laptop: try #debian-offtopic |
| 13:50.57 | mick_laptop | why? i got my answer :P |
| 13:51.09 | hid3nax | Hello everyone. After installing legacy nvidia driver, my screen resolution keeps to be 640x480. If I don't load the nvidia module through xorg.conf then it's fine - 1280x1024 (as it supposed to be). What am I missing here? Running gdm and lxde. |
| 13:51.44 | lolufail | hid3nax: which module is loaded with the good resolution? |
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| 13:52.24 | JordiGH | Is there a PDF reader that has a link stack so that it can go back if I click of an embedded link in the PDF? |
| 13:52.29 | hid3nax | lolufail: none. The device section just contains Identifier "Configured Video Device" entry and that's all. |
| 13:52.47 | hid3nax | It's generic xorg.conf which works fine |
| 13:52.59 | xyan | having a problem with flash, a lot of pages eg. youtube / speedtest.net are unusable for me i cant click any of the controls, however "hover" effects work so its not a focus problem or something like that. it does not matter which browser/version of iceweasel/firefox flashplayer/flashplugin-nonfree im using, all the same. even tried to purge any addons, rm the configs reinstall, all crap. |
| 13:53.04 | lolufail | hid3nax: have you looked at the xorg logs? |
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| 13:53.19 | hid3nax | lolufail: actually, no, just a second |
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| 13:53.25 | lolufail | post them |
| 13:53.35 | lolufail | -post+pastebin |
| 13:53.36 | mick_laptop | JordiGH: not sure, i think kpdf did it otherwise if you want acrobat does it (not FOSS i know) |
| 13:53.59 | JordiGH | mick_laptop: Let me try Okular... |
| 13:54.24 | mick_laptop | JordiGH: i have a similar issue, i want a pdf reader w/ bookmarks |
| 13:54.32 | JordiGH | "Need to get 78.5MB of archives." |
| 13:54.34 | JordiGH | FIRE! |
| 13:54.41 | Dr_ | ubuntu > debian :D |
| 13:54.43 | JordiGH | FULL SPEED AHEAD |
| 13:54.45 | slaveriq | does somebody know on what cd the dev tools are on? gcc make and so on? |
| 13:54.47 | Dr_ | exit |
| 13:54.54 | ranix | lol |
| 13:54.57 | ranix | that was classic |
| 13:55.02 | mick_laptop | haha |
| 13:55.14 | JordiGH | slaveriq: First one, surely? |
| 13:55.14 | asg | slaveriq: they should be on the first one |
| 13:55.14 | JordiGH | !cd contents |
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| 13:55.14 | slaveriq | you sure about that? |
| 13:55.16 | dpkg | To find out what is on what disk, use the searchable index at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search or download the .jigdo template from the same location and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the disk. |
| 13:55.19 | Lozzano | Hey, can you guys tell me on what CD the .deb files + dependencies for gcc and make are? |
| 13:55.28 | mick_laptop | .uk - of course |
| 13:55.43 | hid3nax | lolufail: here's the most interesting part of the log: http://pastebin.org/45547 I'll paste my xorg.conf shortly... |
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| 13:55.57 | JordiGH | mick_laptop: I have a deep hatred for all Adobe software. They make horrible software, especially for their own format.s |
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| 13:56.07 | JordiGH | mick_laptop: That I can't even fix it annoys me even more. |
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| 13:56.31 | mick_laptop | JordiGH: specs are opened up afaik |
| 13:56.46 | JordiGH | mick_laptop: Yes, at least that much is good. |
| 13:56.48 | mick_laptop | and you can work on a free pdf reader |
| 13:57.06 | JordiGH | mick_laptop: Except when Adobe creates new standards that disobey the published specs. :-/ |
| 13:57.10 | mick_laptop | pdf readers aren't easy though |
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| 13:57.31 | JordiGH | mick_laptop: Anyways, point being, I'd rather use a free reader, find one that does what I want, and if it doesn't, I might add that feature. |
| 13:57.37 | hid3nax | lolufail: and here's the xorg.conf: http://pastebin.org/45549 It worked perfectly on other machine but it had newer graphics card than this one |
| 13:57.42 | ranix | except when Adobe runs fucking javascript in their pdf viewer |
| 13:57.46 | mick_laptop | JordiGH: same here |
| 13:57.47 | ranix | w.t.f |
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| 13:58.08 | mick_laptop | JordiGH: if you find one w/ bookmarks please let me know |
| 13:58.24 | ranix | I believe kpdf supports bookmarks |
| 13:58.34 | JordiGH | kpdf or okular? |
| 13:58.38 | ranix | don't know if that's just bookmarks embedded in the document |
| 13:58.38 | JordiGH | just installed okular |
| 13:58.39 | mick_laptop | ranix: not the last time that i checked |
| 13:58.55 | ranix | it will show bookmarks for chapters and stuff that the pdf author created |
| 13:59.02 | ranix | for sure |
| 13:59.10 | ranix | I don't know about allowing you to create your own marks though |
| 13:59.13 | JordiGH | What did kcontrol get renamed to in KDE 4? |
| 13:59.18 | sigp239 | How do you tell what is included in a package like gnome-games? |
| 13:59.23 | mick_laptop | ranix: those are not bookmarks, they are embedded links |
| 13:59.33 | mick_laptop | different concept |
| 13:59.33 | JordiGH | sigp239: apt-cache show gnome-games |
| 13:59.34 | ranix | apt=cache show |
| 13:59.38 | ranix | typo |
| 13:59.46 | ranix | ah I see, thanks mick_laptop |
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| 14:00.15 | sigp239 | JordiGH, Is there a way to install one or two of the games but not all? |
| 14:00.34 | RichiH | mquin: that is my fear, as well |
| 14:00.38 | mick_laptop | i want to (just as i can with a "real book") come back later and save bookmarks in pdfs |
| 14:00.46 | RichiH | problem is, i can't restart a lot of the boxes in question.... |
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| 14:00.53 | ranix | I use bookr on my psp for doing that |
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| 14:01.04 | JordiGH | sigp239: Sure, just install tehem. |
| 14:01.17 | mick_laptop | JordiGH: as far as i'm concerned 4 was a total f- up |
| 14:01.37 | mick_laptop | i don't know what anything is called anymore in 4 |
| 14:01.45 | sigp239 | JordiGH, I don't see how to install only 1. There isn't a separate package for gnometris, for example. |
| 14:01.54 | mick_laptop | i think that kicker was even nixed or renamed |
| 14:02.17 | mick_laptop | 10:02 -- time for me to go |
| 14:02.20 | mick_laptop | ;) |
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| 14:02.38 | ranix | sigp239: there is no package for just gnometris |
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| 14:04.15 | sigp239 | What is Size: 1191390? |
| 14:04.20 | sigp239 | There is no unit given |
| 14:04.39 | sigp239 | bytes? |
| 14:04.45 | abrotman | i believe so |
| 14:04.53 | ranix | yeah, bytes unless otherwise stated |
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| 14:05.08 | sigp239 | I'd hope that gnome-games wouldn't be 1191390 is kbytes |
| 14:05.12 | sigp239 | is = in |
| 14:05.23 | ranix | unless in the context of data transfer, in which case size is usually bits |
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| 14:09.36 | Vitalik | h1 guys |
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| 14:11.56 | stevedondley | I run perl -MCPAN -e shell and then I'm asked to configure the cpan shell. I'm not sure how to do that, though. |
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| 14:13.07 | Vitalik | Hey, if I have processor Intel Core 2Duo what version of debian I must download? |
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| 14:14.09 | ranix | Vitalik: amd64 if you use more than 3 gigs of ram' |
| 14:14.23 | ranix | Vitalik: 686 or whatever it is if you use 3 or less |
| 14:14.24 | Vitalik | I have 2 gigs, but core2 |
| 14:14.36 | ranix | Vitalik: the actual answer is more in-depth but just use 686 |
| 14:14.50 | Vitalik | ok, thanks |
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| 14:26.11 | a-s | how can I play .flv files in linux? |
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| 14:26.31 | a-s | (in debian) |
| 14:26.40 | JordiGH | a-s: Won't any player work? |
| 14:27.12 | JordiGH | a-s: Yeah, totem plays them for me, without Marillat support. |
| 14:27.14 | JordiGH | a-s: It's magic! |
| 14:27.27 | a-s | mplayer, xine, realplay does not work to me |
| 14:27.40 | module000 | a-s: I use VLC and it plays them |
| 14:27.41 | JordiGH | Eh, get gstreamer. |
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| 14:27.59 | JordiGH | I forget what is the actual codec. mpeg2, innit? |
| 14:28.02 | a-s | totem says like realplay : An error occurred Internal data stream error. |
| 14:28.14 | JordiGH | a-s: Get gstreamer stuff. |
| 14:28.48 | a-s | JordiGH: I believe that realplay has autodetect that, and downloaded it, but the error persists |
| 14:29.05 | abrotman | a-s: which version of debian are you using? |
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| 14:30.11 | a-s | ubuntu latest version and debian latest |
| 14:30.36 | JordiGH | lenny? |
| 14:31.08 | a-s | yes |
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| 14:31.47 | JordiGH | a-s: Where did you get the flv? |
| 14:32.02 | a-s | from web pages, using foxbug |
| 14:32.18 | JordiGH | Wow, "from the internet", that's specific. :-/ |
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| 14:32.32 | JordiGH | a-s: Also, can you figure out what the codec used is? What does ffmpeg -i foo.flv foo.avi do? |
| 14:33.00 | a-s | to see... |
| 14:33.19 | JordiGH | ffmpeg should tell you what codec is actually in the flv. |
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| 14:33.40 | JordiGH | It might be a weird codec that's in Marillat. YouTube flvs play fine here in lenny without Marillat, though. |
| 14:33.55 | a-s | ffmpeg does exactly as mplayer: |
| 14:33.58 | a-s | [flv @ 0xb7f25110]Unsupported video codec (7) |
| 14:34.37 | a-s | picture size invalid (0x0) |
| 14:34.39 | JordiGH | Ah, looks like YouTube can use various codecs. |
| 14:34.39 | themill | what does "file" say about the file? |
| 14:34.55 | JordiGH | Yeah, that's H.264. |
| 14:34.57 | JordiGH | It's not in the repos. |
| 14:34.59 | a-s | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:34.59 | a-s | /o.flv: Macromedia Flash Video |
| 14:35.00 | abrotman | a-s: which version of vlc ... `dpkg -l vlc` .. show us |
| 14:35.07 | karme | recover vs e2undel - which one is better? (popcon suggests recover) |
| 14:35.15 | JordiGH | The codec is H.264, patent-encumbered. |
| 14:35.17 | JordiGH | Try Marillat. |
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| 14:35.21 | a-s | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:35.21 | a-s | No packages found matching vlc. |
| 14:35.21 | a-s | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:35.21 | dpkg | No packages found matching vlc |
| 14:35.29 | JordiGH | That's now how you search. |
| 14:35.31 | abrotman | i thought you said you tried vlc ? |
| 14:35.32 | JordiGH | not |
| 14:35.50 | abrotman | oh .. sorry |
| 14:35.55 | abrotman | a-s: dpkg -l mplayer .. which version |
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| 14:36.19 | JordiGH | Can someone please grep Marillat for H.264? |
| 14:36.24 | abrotman | you? |
| 14:36.27 | JordiGH | No. |
| 14:36.31 | JordiGH | I don't want to add it to my sources.list |
| 14:36.38 | abrotman | you don't have to |
| 14:36.40 | JordiGH | And he doesn't have a web search. |
| 14:36.48 | abrotman | !tell JordiGH about enter |
| 14:36.49 | a-s | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:36.49 | a-s | Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold |
| 14:36.49 | a-s | | Status=Not/Installed/Config-f/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/t-aWait/T-pend |
| 14:36.49 | a-s | |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) |
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| 14:36.50 | dpkg | No packages found matching mplayer |
| 14:37.22 | Lozzano | What is the packadge called for the kernel headers? |
| 14:37.33 | JordiGH | linux-headers-$version |
| 14:37.45 | sigp239 | So what is the name of the solitaire program that comes with the gnome-games package? On fedora, I can execute it by the name 'sol'. But on Debian, there is no program 'sol'. |
| 14:38.01 | JordiGH | sigp239: klondike, innit? |
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| 14:38.05 | themill | dpkg: tell a-s about paste |
| 14:38.06 | abrotman | sigp239: gnomesol i'd guess |
| 14:38.08 | abrotman | a-s: we only need the version string .. the line for the mplayer package |
| 14:38.09 | Lozzano | JordiGH is that pkg located on the cd1? of the isntall? |
| 14:38.16 | JordiGH | Lozzano: unlikely. |
| 14:38.19 | abrotman | sigp239: dpkg -L gnome-games .. look for yourself |
| 14:38.20 | a-s | [flv @ 0xb70c8110]Unsupported video codec (7) |
| 14:38.20 | a-s | [00000291] main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `undf'. |
| 14:38.20 | a-s | VLC probably does not support this sound or video format. |
| 14:38.22 | JordiGH | !tell lozzano about cd contents |
| 14:38.29 | a-s | this is the error of vlc |
| 14:38.41 | abrotman | a-s: dpkg -l mplayer | tail -1 .. we only need the one line |
| 14:38.46 | JordiGH | a-s: Looks like gstreamer0.10-x264 from Marillat has the codec you want. |
| 14:39.16 | a-s | dpkg -l mplayer | tail -1 |
| 14:39.16 | a-s | ii mplayer 2:1.0~rc2-0ubuntu13.1 The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux |
| 14:39.16 | a-s | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.16 | dpkg | ii mplayer | tail -1 3.8-5.2 a-s's private stamp collection |
| 14:39.28 | \amethyst | JordiGH: libx264-6{7,8} x264 h264enc handbrake-{cli,gtk} |
| 14:39.29 | JordiGH | !tell a-s about paste |
| 14:39.29 | themill | a-s: please stop pasteing into the channel. |
| 14:39.53 | abrotman | a-s: and go to #ubuntu for support |
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| 14:39.57 | a-s | sorry |
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| 14:40.18 | abrotman | a-s: you're offtopic in #debian, we do not support Ubuntu |
| 14:40.25 | JoshH | #ubuntu is basically the worst irc channel ever |
| 14:40.29 | JoshH | such a horrible s/n ratio |
| 14:40.36 | abrotman | JoshH: not our problem |
| 14:40.39 | JordiGH | Ooh, the n00b outed himself. |
| 14:40.42 | JoshH | oh i know |
| 14:40.51 | \amethyst | JordiGH: those are the packages I get from aptitude search '~dH.264~m"Christian Marillat".*' |
| 14:41.02 | JordiGH | a-s: Yeah, my Marillat advice is not valid for you. |
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| 14:41.19 | JordiGH | \amethyst: You figured out how to use aptitude search? I guess some day I will bother to learn it too. |
| 14:41.25 | a-s | thanks. I have to go now |
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| 14:41.26 | JoshH | marillat is a hero |
| 14:41.33 | JoshH | he should be dpl imo |
| 14:41.38 | sigp239 | JordiGH, abrotman, sorry, it is 'sol'. It just wasn't in my path. /usr/games/sol |
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| 14:42.08 | JordiGH | I've often wondered why do games get their binaries in their own path. |
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| 14:46.12 | JordiGH | Nobody touches my box but me. |
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| 14:56.22 | guysoft42 | hi all, why might this happen?: root@golem3:/home/guy# chroot /opt/maemo/dists/lenny-2009-1 mount -t proc proc /proc mount: error while loading shared libraries: libuuid.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 14:56.25 | guysoft42 | the file exists |
| 14:56.29 | guysoft42 | /lib/libuuid.so.1 |
| 14:56.30 | xbox | as far as I know I followd the howto correctly but is see in my: /var/log/daemon.log the message" none:0: open: /etc/bind/named.conf: file not found" |
| 14:56.44 | module000 | guysoft42: put it in your path |
| 14:57.13 | module000 | guysoft42: or symlink it right there in the directory you are in |
| 14:57.32 | xbox | however the file does exists " lrwxrwxrwx 1 root bind 29 2009-10-12 17:55 /etc/bind/named.conf -> /var/lib/named/etc/named.conf" |
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| 14:58.06 | module000 | xbox: is the link valid? ie...does /var/lib/named/etc/named.conf actually exist? |
| 14:58.24 | guysoft42 | module000, does not seem to work. not i am doing chroot there |
| 14:59.03 | module000 | have to run for a few...but guysoft, you aren't chrooting yourself in such a fashion that you can't reach the library are you? |
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| 15:00.43 | xbox | module: yes It does exists, see : "carl:/var/lib/named/etc# pwd |
| 15:00.44 | xbox | /var/lib/named/etc" and "ls |
| 15:00.45 | xbox | named.conf named.conf.bck named.conf.local named.conf.local.bck named.conf.optionsnamed.conf.options.bck |
| 15:00.46 | xbox | " |
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| 15:00.53 | Adriaan | hi, bash-completion does not work properly on my own account, though it does work perfect when i switch to root.. any suggestions? |
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| 15:02.44 | JoshH | is it in your user's bashrc? |
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| 15:15.15 | Adriaan | JoshH, yes it is at the bottom |
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| 15:19.37 | grazymax | hi all |
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| 15:28.43 | sigmonsays | hello, quickie I hope. Can I say install package atleast version x.y.z |
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| 15:29.51 | hark | aptitude install foo=version |
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| 15:30.30 | sigmonsays | well what if a newer version is out, then i'd want latest |
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| 15:30.43 | sigmonsays | foo>=version work? |
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| 15:30.48 | \amethyst | there is as far as I know no way to write 'newer than x' in aptitude |
| 15:30.55 | sigmonsays | k |
| 15:31.18 | justin | sigmonsays: you don't have to do anything |
| 15:31.41 | justin | aptitude install package |
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| 15:31.52 | sigmonsays | well I was hoping it'd error |
| 15:31.58 | sigmonsays | just a minor optimization |
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| 15:32.03 | sigmonsays | why apt-get update if I dno't need to |
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| 15:32.32 | justin | apt-get update doesn't do what you think it does |
| 15:32.47 | sigmonsays | no no no |
| 15:32.48 | CharminTheMoose | hey all, I'm running debian testing and when I upgraded my packages recently, I'm now geting a whole bunch of xruns, even when doing nothing at all... any ideas on how to fix this? |
| 15:33.16 | justin | CharminTheMoose: a whole bunch of what? |
| 15:33.17 | sigmonsays | apt is caching locally, apt-get update downloads the new index. Now, if you release a new package, apt will say it's not there |
| 15:33.35 | sigmonsays | hence the point of a optimization |
| 15:33.45 | CharminTheMoose | justin, xruns from jackd |
| 15:33.55 | justin | sigmonsays: apt does not work that way |
| 15:34.23 | justin | sigmonsays: if you did not run apt-get update then there would be no way for it to know anything about the new version |
| 15:34.52 | justin | a debian package contains a LOT more info than a version number |
| 15:35.16 | sigmonsays | aight dude |
| 15:35.25 | justin | CharminTheMoose: what packages did you upgrade? |
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| 15:35.46 | CharminTheMoose | justin, um, all of the packages on my system. |
| 15:35.52 | CharminTheMoose | including jackd and qjackctl |
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| 15:40.00 | _Trinity_ | what services could be impeding a halt? or ucasing a reboot upon halting? |
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| 15:41.29 | panfist | how can i tell what version of debian i am running |
| 15:41.43 | asg | panfist: /msg dpkg version |
| 15:43.00 | dustybin | am i right in thinking that a good backup system will involve these 3 parts: |
| 15:43.02 | dustybin | local / offline / remote |
| 15:43.15 | l403 | hello, I have a pain-in-the-ass question. Why do packages libgtk1.2 and libgtk2.0-0 look to be different just by version but are two completely different things? Who looks after the naming scheme so the packages dont get mixed up? |
| 15:44.07 | l403 | How is one supposed to know how to sattisfy dependencie when compilation instructions state that gtk is needed? |
| 15:44.09 | themill | l403: they have different package names as well as different versions. (and libgtk1.2 has been removed from debian at long last) |
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| 15:45.01 | l403 | should version name be part of the package name at all? |
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| 15:45.33 | themill | l403: only when we need multiple versions to coexist (e.g. python2.5 python2.4, gcc-4.x) |
| 15:45.38 | sphenxes | i have rdesktop on my debian and would like to log on windowsxp computer. i get the message: connection to host was closed. (i can ping windowxp). any suggestions |
| 15:45.44 | themill | judd info libgtk2.0-dev |
| 15:45.45 | judd | themill: libgtk2.0-dev (libdevel): is optional; Version: 2.12.12-1~lenny1; Size: 2759.8k; Installed: 9388k -- Development files for the GTK+ library |
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| 15:46.06 | paul__ | hi. |
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| 15:47.57 | kpoorman | is there a way to have the debian rules file setup such that it makes multiple arch specific packages ? |
| 15:49.31 | paul__ | how do youadd a single package to apt without creating a hole repository |
| 15:49.36 | paul__ | *you add |
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| 15:50.31 | petemc | paul__: dpkg -i foo.deb |
| 15:50.56 | kpoorman | is there a way to have the debian rules file setup such that it makes multiple arch specific packages ? |
| 15:51.26 | \amethyst | kpoorman: you mean generating packages for different arches in the same run? |
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| 15:52.00 | \amethyst | kpoorman: because it's certainly possible to generate a bunch of arch-specific packages for the same architecture---many many packages do that |
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| 15:53.06 | ranix | arch-specific packages for the same architecture? |
| 15:53.19 | pykler | im using the lenny netinst, it has detected my wireless, yetI am getting the *stupid* dhcp not working |
| 15:53.33 | pykler | but it was never an issue with the lenny netinstall |
| 15:54.10 | pykler | question, how do i do a wireless network scan from the busybox cmd line |
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| 15:54.48 | pykler | anyone know the command line I can use |
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| 15:54.51 | paul__ | also how do you add LVM to the linux kernel (2.6.31.4 i just built) in the multiple device menu there is DM but not LVM |
| 15:55.04 | kpoorman | \amethyst: yes, one run, two packages |
| 15:55.10 | ranix | pykler: you can try iwlist scanning |
| 15:55.13 | Martin_vW | hello, I'm having a strange issue on a debian lenny machine: the packages libuuid1 and avahi-utils won't configure. Look at the following pastes: http://pastie.org/private/lpwodf2qekn8lz2t3duu1g http://pastie.org/private/yk3bypotasipmrys9blq |
| 15:55.14 | \amethyst | kpoorman: for the same arch or different? |
| 15:55.16 | ranix | pykler: you'll need wireless-tools iirc |
| 15:55.24 | paul__ | and the kernel doesn't boot (timeout waiting for root partiton) |
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| 15:55.31 | pykler | ranix: its not on the netinst disk |
| 15:55.42 | pykler | and I can install, no network i guess |
| 15:55.45 | Martin_vW | I've already googled for this, tried to debug the postinst, ran debsums, but I have no clue what's going wrong here. |
| 15:55.52 | ranix | pykler: use a land line |
| 15:55.54 | kpoorman | \amethyst: two, i386 and amd64 |
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| 15:56.07 | pykler | ranix: its too far, i got no cable that long :) |
| 15:56.19 | pykler | id rather use wireless |
| 15:56.26 | spldart | Yah know... There is something I've always wanted to do but never researched how. Add a small repository on my file server that has several key .deb's that are not available through debian and or I have built personally and then point apt to that repository when doing a fresh install so I can pick, choose at time of fresh install. |
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| 15:56.49 | pykler | spldart: where is the question |
| 15:56.53 | Martin_vW | Only useradd seems to be affected, I can add existing users to libuuid by using gpasswd -a without problems. |
| 15:56.54 | pykler | I am sure dpkg has the answer |
| 15:56.57 | \amethyst | kpoorman: then AFAIK no, there can be only one build arch at a time |
| 15:56.59 | spldart | Is that easy to setup? |
| 15:57.12 | pykler | i believe so, its the way you organize the files |
| 15:57.13 | \amethyst | kpoorman: #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net might have suggestions |
| 15:57.13 | kpoorman | how do you set it up to build different arches ? |
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| 15:57.31 | pykler | anyone know the dpkg command to solve spldart's problem |
| 15:57.35 | kpoorman | \amethyst: Thanks. |
| 15:57.40 | \amethyst | kpoorman: if you build it the same way on all arches, you don't usually need to do anything |
| 15:57.46 | pykler | !mirror |
| 15:57.47 | dpkg | rumour has it, debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/, see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <mirror size>. |
| 15:58.00 | spldart | Ah... Ok. |
| 15:58.00 | pykler | !mymirror |
| 15:58.02 | \amethyst | kpoorman: you build it on an amd64 system to get an amd64 package, or on an i386 system to get an i386 package |
| 15:58.10 | kpoorman | \amethyst: it'll be build the same just need to run it once for i386, and once for amd64. Not sure how to specify that |
| 15:58.17 | spldart | thanks |
| 15:58.23 | hark | pykler: /msg the bot |
| 15:58.31 | pykler | ok |
| 15:58.33 | \amethyst | kpoorman: you'd need to build it once in an amd64 chroot and once in an i386 chroot |
| 15:58.35 | kpoorman | \amethyst: no X compile ? |
| 15:59.04 | \amethyst | kpoorman: I think cross-compiles are frowned on in the archive, but it might be possible; #debian-mentors would know more |
| 15:59.04 | spldart | hrm.. not sure that exactly answers the question but perhaps I'll get close enough |
| 15:59.22 | kpoorman | \amethyst: yeah, tried there. it's an invite only channel |
| 15:59.28 | pykler | spldart: im sure there is a wiki page if you look it up, also you can get a ppa from launchpad for free |
| 15:59.29 | \amethyst | oh? |
| 15:59.38 | \amethyst | kpoorman: if you're running an amd64 kernel you can do both chroots on the same machine |
| 15:59.41 | spldart | k |
| 15:59.47 | themill | kpoorman: oftc not freenode |
| 15:59.52 | hark | pykler: maybe /msg dpkg own repo |
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| 16:00.37 | kpoorman | \amethyst: how do you do i386 chroot on an amd64 box? |
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| 16:00.48 | pykler | hark thx |
| 16:00.57 | pykler | spldart: do this /msg dpkg own repo |
| 16:01.17 | \amethyst | kpoorman: debootstrap --arch=amd64 |
| 16:01.30 | \amethyst | kpoorman: oops, --arch=i386 |
| 16:01.34 | spldart | ah |
| 16:01.43 | \amethyst | kpoorman: you might need debootstrap --foreign --arch=i386 && linux32 debootstap --second-stage |
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| 16:01.56 | pykler | So anyone know how to use this netcfg in the deb instalelr to scan wireless networks and display them |
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| 16:02.28 | kpoorman | \amethyst: Thanks! |
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| 16:04.09 | \amethyst | kpoorman: hm, I think I got the linux32 part wrong... you could try just --arch=i386... but when you chroot in you need linux32 so the architecture is reported as i386 in the chroot |
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| 16:04.51 | spldart | Ok.. Thanks pykler and hark. That's exactly the command I needed to google to find a nice tutorial. Third hit on google. And I happen to have a file, game, apache server I can put to the task in my lan :) |
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| 16:08.10 | cognitiaclaeves | How do I install ZSI to work for python2.5 in etch? |
| 16:09.05 | Martin_vW | any ideas on my group issue? could the /etc/group file be somehow damaged? is there a consistency check I can run? |
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| 16:10.31 | \amethyst | Martin_vW: is the group listed in both /etc/group and /etc/gshadow? does getent group libuuid list anything? what about getent group | grep libuuid ? |
| 16:10.39 | edwin_quijada | Which kernel I must use for 64bit Intel processors Xeon |
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| 16:10.58 | \amethyst | edwin_quijada: -686 for a 32-bit kernel, -amd64 for a 64-bit kernel |
| 16:11.10 | JPT | isnt IA64 for these xeon things? |
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| 16:11.17 | \amethyst | JPT: no, it's for itanium |
| 16:11.21 | JPT | oh |
| 16:11.50 | Martin_vW | \amethyst: yes, it's listed both in group and gshadow, and both getent group libuuid and getent group|grep libuuid list it. |
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| 16:12.15 | \amethyst | Martin_vW: strangeness |
| 16:12.21 | smhar | greetings |
| 16:12.24 | Martin_vW | \amethyst: I agree :| |
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| 16:13.16 | slacker_nl | if i do ls somewhere and there is a dir, i get permissions <somenumber> user group etc etc, what is that <somenumber>? |
| 16:14.48 | ranix | !permissions |
| 16:14.48 | dpkg | For more information on permissions, read info coreutils 'File Permissions' and http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions or http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html - for even further info see these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_permission and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod, or follow the setuid and setgid links found in the wikipedia pages, or http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions, or <qotd232> |
| 16:15.08 | ranix | slacker_nl: the answer to this question will require 15 to 45 minutes worth of reading and understanding |
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| 16:16.15 | slacker_nl | ranix: hehe :) |
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| 16:17.04 | Martin_vW | hm. useradd -g scanner martinbla (scanner being another group, near the end of /etc/group) also doesn't work, while useradd -g root (root being at the top of /etc/group) works. |
| 16:17.43 | Martin_vW | I guess that there is a faulty group, maybe one with too many members, what useradd does not understand, which keeps it from seeing groups after that point. |
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| 16:18.29 | \amethyst | Martin_vW: could you post your /etc/groups? |
| 16:18.32 | slacker_nl | ranix: number of links |
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| 16:18.39 | \amethyst | Martin_vW: shouldn't be anything too sensitive in there |
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| 16:19.48 | edwin_quijada | \amethyst:amd64 for Intel Xeon?? |
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| 16:19.58 | \amethyst | edwin_quijada: yes |
| 16:19.58 | Martin_vW | \amethyst: I'm not sure... it's from a customer server and contains ~1000 complete user names. Kinda problematic because of privacy reasons, I'm afraid. |
| 16:19.59 | \amethyst | !amd64 |
| 16:20.00 | dpkg | rumour has it, amd64 is the Debian architecture optimized for x86-64, aka AMD64. Consider using Debian i386 on x86-64 machines if you do not have a good reason to use Debian amd64. The amd64 architecture also supports running i386 Debian with either a -686 or -amd64 kernel. core2duo machines are amd64. See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel on OFTC and freenode. See also <why amd64>. |
| 16:20.25 | \amethyst | edwin_quijada: It's called 'amd64' because AMD designed the architecture, and Intel copied it with a few changes |
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| 16:20.38 | smhar | I just got a new notebook. It is a Dell Inspiron 1545. As expected, I installed debian Lenny on it. there is alot to be done, but first is first. Wifi does not work. The notebook has an integrated Broadcom chip. here are the detail: dmesg: http://pastebin.ca/1619803 ifconfig: http://pastebin.ca/1619805 interfaces: http://pastebin.ca/1619807 lsmod: http://pastebin.ca/1619808 lspci: http://pastebin.ca/1619810 lsusb: http://pastebin.ca/1619814 |
| 16:20.39 | Martin_vW | I'll try to find groups with many members by writing a perl oneliner first, maybe that could be the cause. |
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| 16:20.52 | \amethyst | edwin_quijada: the instruction set, that is. The underlying hardware and microcode is of course very different |
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| 16:21.06 | panfist | if i want to develop software on debian, what packages should i install, for example to get "make" |
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| 16:21.21 | ranix | ooooh I misunderstood your question slacker_nl |
| 16:21.28 | ranix | sorry about that |
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| 16:22.11 | \amethyst | edwin_quijada: EM64T/"Intel 64" is close enough to AMD64 that they can run the same kernel and software, so there's only one architecture |
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| 16:22.34 | \amethyst | edwin_quijada: just like the i386 architecture works with chips from Intel, AMD, Cyrix, Transmeta, ... |
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| 16:23.20 | themill | smhar: please don't ask in several places at once. |
| 16:23.35 | ktebit | whats the bot command to install debian? |
| 16:23.40 | ktebit | !pkg install |
| 16:23.42 | edwin_quijada | \amethyst: I have installed Lenny con 32bits |
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| 16:24.00 | edwin_quijada | so I need to change just the kernel? |
| 16:24.09 | ktebit | !dpkg install |
| 16:24.09 | edwin_quijada | to use 64bits |
| 16:24.09 | dpkg | There are a myriad different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images. Ask me about <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
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| 16:24.43 | abrotman | ktebit: msg the bot ? |
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| 16:24.58 | ktebit | its ok, got it =) |
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| 16:25.53 | smhar | themill, sorry, didn't think they are connected, Not much of an irc man I am :-( |
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| 16:26.04 | panfist | is there some kind of developers package that includes make and other utilities together? or do i have to install them one bye one |
| 16:26.10 | panfist | s/bye/by/ |
| 16:26.26 | getInstance | panfist, there is.. but i just forgot the name |
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| 16:27.05 | ethos5 | build-essential? |
| 16:27.11 | getInstance | that's it |
| 16:27.29 | ethos5 | should also install kernel headers |
| 16:27.48 | ethos5 | probabl kernel-source as well |
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| 16:28.13 | ktebit | abrotman: is there a way to see all commands? |
| 16:28.34 | ethos5 | tab? |
| 16:28.42 | abrotman | ktebit: /msg dpkg help |
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| 16:29.19 | panfist | thanks ethos5 |
| 16:29.25 | ethos5 | np |
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| 16:30.15 | Martin_vW | ok, the largest groups contain 914 and 932 members. |
| 16:30.26 | Martin_vW | Now I need to find out how many group members are allowed... |
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| 16:31.18 | ktebit | ktebit: doesnt give me which INFOS are stored |
| 16:31.26 | ktebit | abrotman |
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| 16:31.58 | abrotman | ktebit: it tells you how to find out |
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| 16:32.52 | slacker_nl | !hardlinks |
| 16:33.00 | slacker_nl | de nada |
| 16:33.02 | ethos5 | Hm. Well, trying to get a dual-server VPN set up for a roadwarrior client. First VPN works perfectly, routes all traffic through it. Problem is that I want the connection to the second server to bypass my VPN connection so I am not pointlessly encrypting encrypted packets whos destination is on a localish network and sending them on a round trip halfway across the globe. |
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| 16:33.58 | ethos5 | Problem is with linux route command over wireless. I can route packets when on hardline via '/usr/sbin/route add -net my.com netmask 255.255.255.255 dev eth0', but changing 'eth0' to 'wlan0' breaks it |
| 16:34.02 | ethos5 | any ideas? |
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| 16:34.43 | atrixk | hi |
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| 16:34.55 | atrixk | I'm new with squid and I've a doubt, by the look of things when client send request to a proxy this request are a bit different from a normal http request. My doubt is when you configure squid as a tansparent proxy how is squid capable to understand "normal" http request ? |
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| 16:35.33 | ethos5 | atrixk: run that by me again? |
| 16:36.13 | atrixk | sorry I don't understand you |
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| 16:36.27 | ethos5 | atrixk: seems like a mutual problem :-) |
| 16:36.39 | ethos5 | atrixk: Ok, let me see if I understand you |
| 16:36.55 | atrixk | ah ok ;) |
| 16:37.05 | ethos5 | atrixk: You are asking how a Squid proxy configured for transparent proxy can understand 'normal' http requests. |
| 16:37.12 | ethos5 | correct? |
| 16:37.13 | atrixk | yes |
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| 16:37.42 | atrixk | because when you configure client (firefox, chrome ...) to use proxy they send http request in a different way. |
| 16:38.09 | atrixk | for example instead of send GET ./index.html they send GET HTTP://www.hola.com/index.html |
| 16:38.09 | ktebit | how to install packages in debian? |
| 16:38.14 | ktebit | is there a bot command for that? |
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| 16:38.37 | Martin_vW | yes, these two groups are the cause. If I comment them out in /etc/group, useradd works again. |
| 16:38.43 | Martin_vW | Any ideas on how to fix this? |
| 16:38.44 | atrixk | but what happens when clients aren't configured to use a proxy and you have a squid as a transparent mode |
| 16:38.56 | ethos5 | atrixk: oh, ok |
| 16:39.01 | dutchfish | !tell ktebit about aptitude |
| 16:39.19 | ethos5 | atrixk: A transparent proxy receives all HTTP requests, period, and reroutes them through itself. |
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| 16:39.38 | ethos5 | atrixk: the idea behind 'transparent' is that the application layer doesn't see any difference |
| 16:39.44 | atrixk | yes |
| 16:40.01 | atrixk | aha |
| 16:40.30 | ethos5 | atrixk: kinda like if you give someone a new computer but leave them the same keyboard, monitor, etc |
| 16:41.00 | atrixk | umm ok, but the problem of the format ? |
| 16:41.07 | ethos5 | atrixk: they won't see a difference from the point of view of the user interface (the connection to the internet for an application), but the engine they use is changed |
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| 16:41.25 | ethos5 | atrixk: should automatically reconfigure it bsaed on context |
| 16:41.28 | ethos5 | thats my guess |
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| 16:41.45 | ethos5 | I really don't know much about how they implemented it, not my field |
| 16:41.59 | atrixk | aha |
| 16:42.14 | atrixk | I didn't know the client send request in a different way to a proxy |
| 16:42.21 | atrixk | I don't know the reason |
| 16:42.28 | ethos5 | client doesnt, afaik |
| 16:42.43 | ethos5 | I think the proxy keeps track of connections made by clients |
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| 16:43.13 | atrixk | ethanol I understand |
| 16:43.22 | ethos5 | and just forwards requests as though it didn't exist, until the info passing through it matches a particular rule |
| 16:43.25 | ethos5 | ok |
| 16:43.36 | ethos5 | wait, i'm ethanol? |
| 16:43.40 | ethos5 | cool |
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| 16:44.05 | ethanol | lies |
| 16:44.12 | catsup_ | ethanol is so drunk he's forgotten his name :\ |
| 16:44.43 | ethos5 | lol |
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| 16:44.53 | ethos5 | i guess it was a folly of tab completion |
| 16:44.55 | atrixk | ethanol thank you very much :) |
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| 16:45.40 | ethos5 | I'm sure he is welcome |
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| 16:49.20 | slacker_nl | ranix: i don't get the number of links with directories |
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| 16:53.29 | slacker_nl | never mind that |
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| 16:54.04 | Martin_vW | Hm, I can't find any information on how many users are allowed in a group. |
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| 16:58.04 | sigp239 | Martin_vW, Probably thousands |
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| 17:01.16 | DerJens | hi everybody ... I have a common ftp problem but nothing I found on the internet helped me :( it's the "I have set a umask but it's ignored" problem. I am using proftpd on debian. uploaded files are alway 644. umask is set to 000 for files and dirs in proftpd.conf and I restarted the ftp server. any idea what I am doing wrong? |
| 17:02.31 | ignotus | hi, I have a Debian installation that have /usr/lib/*.so symlinks, but on another Debian machine I only have /usr/lib/*.so.1, where can I set this? |
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| 17:02.40 | DerJens | I also tried to set the umask for the user in bashrc (and I also reloaded/sourced the bashrc and checked with "umask") but to no avail |
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| 17:03.14 | DerJens | the user logged in through ftp is a local user and he is chrooted to the home dir |
| 17:03.16 | reber | hi all. Anyone here with a dual screen on eeepc 701 ? |
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| 17:04.03 | cahoot | reber: no but I see your question i stereo |
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| 17:05.13 | reber | cahoot, cool and how is the sound ? |
| 17:05.20 | cahoot | muted |
| 17:06.00 | reber | cahoot, maybe you should go with a 5.1 ? |
| 17:06.00 | jelly | does "dual screen" mean VGA connected monitor? |
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| 17:06.01 | Bloke | Say you have an fileshare on Samba on a Linux server, but the server is in sleep mode/suspend to RAM to save energy. According to the Wake on LAN spec, a magic packet containing the MAC of the sleeping machine must be sent to that machine before it can wake up. So, simply trying to access a share on the Samba over the workgroup from my Windows NT 4 machine won't work. But, I could write a program that integrates with WIndows Explor |
| 17:06.02 | McL0VIN | something strange happen to me yesterday, I disconected my Debian box from the enternet, i had to change router outlet and then plug it back in , and since then i am not able to ssh to it?! |
| 17:06.16 | cahoot | reber: tried xrandr --output VGA --auto? |
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| 17:06.31 | jelly | Bloke: you got cut at: [...]program that integrates with WIndows Explo |
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| 17:06.36 | McL0VIN | ^^ from it i can browse the internet fine , but i can not ssh to it |
| 17:07.00 | jelly | McL0VIN: did the ip address change? |
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| 17:07.05 | Bloke | Basically, I want a program to run on Windows to wake up my Debian machine when Windows wants to access the Samba share form Windows Explorer. |
| 17:07.06 | _darren_ | is it possible (without too many hoops!) to clear an install of debian as if it was a fresh install? The machine has X and a bunch of other unnecessary dependencies I want gone. |
| 17:07.09 | McL0VIN | jelly: no |
| 17:07.31 | jelly | McL0VIN: is there a firewall configured on it? |
| 17:07.48 | McL0VIN | jelly: and my DynDNS now points to 192.168.1.1 <GW> ? |
| 17:08.02 | McL0VIN | jelly: i don't think so |
| 17:08.05 | Bloke | A simple access to the Samba share from a Windows machine won't wake up the server from sleep/suspend to RAM. |
| 17:08.36 | Bloke | So, a magic packet (packet containing the MAC of the server) would have to be sent. |
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| 17:10.42 | jelly | judd: info etherwake |
| 17:10.42 | judd | jelly: etherwake (net): is optional; Version: 1.09-2; Size: 9.5k; Installed: 40k -- A little tool to send magic Wake-on-LAN packets |
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| 17:11.13 | jelly | but your client is windows, so that is useless |
| 17:11.31 | Bloke | Etherwake? |
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| 17:11.35 | apt_get | Hi |
| 17:11.53 | Bloke | Ciao! |
| 17:12.11 | jelly | a simple cli tool to send those magic packets |
| 17:12.40 | jelly | McL0VIN: is sshd still running? |
| 17:12.42 | Bloke | Yeah, I can probably port that cli program to Win32. |
| 17:12.56 | Bloke | Or cygwin |
| 17:13.07 | jelly | or find a free one for windows |
| 17:13.07 | Bloke | Yeah |
| 17:13.25 | sway | what about a fat partition? |
| 17:13.29 | simonrvn | it's probably called etherwake or such too ;p (i.e. a port) |
| 17:13.38 | Bloke | Then I just need to somehow integrate with Windows Explorer (maybe the windows.h api?) |
| 17:13.40 | jelly | or WOL or wotever |
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| 17:13.51 | simonrvn | wolever? |
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| 17:14.39 | Bloke | So when I try to access drive Z: from Windows Explorer, my program gets run which wakes the Samba host. |
| 17:15.18 | Bloke | I wonder how many watts an idle Debian machine uses (a 500 MHz Celeron machine) |
| 17:15.19 | ascii158 | Bloke: do you have a router on the net? It could cat ARPs for the host and then wake him |
| 17:15.36 | ascii158 | ^catch |
| 17:16.07 | Bloke | The router is a cheap Netgear consumer-grade router (not because I can't setup a good router, but to save power) |
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| 17:16.37 | ascii158 | and no possibility of adding scripts? |
| 17:16.48 | Bloke | I can't justify running a separate, big PC tower just fot NAT> |
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| 17:16.56 | Bloke | I don't think so. |
| 17:17.01 | sway | a python daemon |
| 17:17.05 | jelly | Bloke: oh, you're asking about sshing from outside |
| 17:17.09 | jelly | ? |
| 17:17.31 | Bloke | No, Samba from inside |
| 17:18.08 | McL0VIN | jelly: just do ps -ef | grep sshd |
| 17:18.10 | jelly | has mixed up two questions |
| 17:18.14 | Bloke | I have sshd running on the machine, but its only purpose is a Samba host for two file shares. Other than that, it sits unused. |
| 17:18.21 | ascii158 | i think it would be easier to manually wake the pc |
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| 17:18.27 | ghostoverload | hi all |
| 17:18.37 | ghostoverload | spricht man hier auch deutsch? :D |
| 17:18.46 | Bloke | Ja! |
| 17:18.48 | ascii158 | i mean, you could have a script on desktop and double-click, when you need the server |
| 17:18.51 | ghostoverload | wunderbar :P |
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| 17:18.59 | Bloke | Was ist das ghostoverload? |
| 17:19.14 | Bloke | Most of us can fake German fluency on IRC ;) |
| 17:19.18 | ghostoverload | weis nicht ob ich hier richtig bin. aber ich hab ne frage zum befehl tar |
| 17:19.23 | ghostoverload | :P |
| 17:19.27 | simonrvn | !de |
| 17:19.28 | dpkg | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 17:19.44 | simonrvn | so can the bot ;p |
| 17:20.10 | ghostoverload | ok, thanks |
| 17:20.11 | jelly | McL0VIN: right |
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| 17:21.55 | Cerise | hi |
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| 17:22.14 | Cerise | i'm trying to execute a program every hour |
| 17:22.24 | Cerise | so i put a shell script that starts it in /etc/cron.hourly/ |
| 17:22.48 | Cerise | and made it chmod a+x |
| 17:23.00 | Cerise | but for some reason it doesn't work |
| 17:23.29 | McL0VIN | jelly: it is running |
| 17:24.24 | McL0VIN | jelly: vnc works |
| 17:24.28 | McL0VIN | wtf |
| 17:25.05 | ascii158 | do you simply get a timeout or another error? |
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| 17:26.00 | McL0VIN | ascii158: yes timeout |
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| 17:27.52 | McL0VIN | jelly: any suggestion |
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| 17:30.37 | ascii158 | McL0VIN: du you know how to use wireshark/tcpdump? |
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| 17:30.53 | j0ny_w | hi |
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| 17:31.29 | McL0VIN | ascii158: i would be grateful if you are kinds and showed me |
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| 17:31.44 | McL0VIN | ascii158: i would really appreciate it |
| 17:31.45 | jelly | McL0VIN: does ssh work from another machine in the same local network segment? |
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| 17:32.34 | jelly | (the correct answer isn't "I only have one computer at home" :-) |
| 17:32.53 | ascii158 | well, install tcpdump and start it with "tcpdump -p -i ethX host your.other.pc" |
| 17:33.18 | McL0VIN | excuse me while i whipe this out |
| 17:33.25 | McL0VIN | my mini laptop |
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| 17:33.37 | ascii158 | replace ethX with the ethernetcard of the "server" and your.other.pc with the ip-address from which you try to connect |
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| 17:34.46 | poisonbit | jelly, i think default is one channel by conection, even for the same hosts2hosts |
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| 17:34.53 | McL0VIN | jelly: it is working from my laptop |
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| 17:35.08 | poisonbit | but you can share host2host channels, in the ssh_config |
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| 17:35.29 | McL0VIN | jelly: but it was also working from my work PC, using DynDNS and it was not working last night |
| 17:35.46 | poisonbit | net2net aren't shered in ssh, you need a OpenVPN channel in that case |
| 17:36.03 | techouse | any idea why the fonts in ubuntu are much smoother than in debian? i got gnome on both and the same font settings on both, still fonts in ubuntu are much smoother |
| 17:36.10 | techouse | any ideas? |
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| 17:36.33 | McL0VIN | ascii158: installing tcpdump now |
| 17:36.47 | ascii158 | wait, it works from one host but not from another? |
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| 17:37.16 | McL0VIN | ascii158: actually from 2 host it doesn't work |
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| 17:37.48 | ascii158 | ok |
| 17:37.59 | valdyn | !antialiasing |
| 17:38.08 | ascii158 | because you said, it worked from your laptop? |
| 17:38.14 | ascii158 | *is working |
| 17:38.19 | valdyn | techouse: in gnome on debian? |
| 17:38.28 | techouse | yes |
| 17:38.39 | techouse | squeeze |
| 17:38.44 | techouse | and 9.10 beta ubuntu |
| 17:38.57 | valdyn | techouse: run gnome-appearance-properties, go to fonts, advanced and switch on antialiasing |
| 17:39.05 | techouse | i have |
| 17:39.37 | poisonbit | McL0VIN, i'm just sited, sorry, what's the problem, what doesn't work? |
| 17:39.38 | techouse | i got it the SAME on both comps |
| 17:39.43 | valdyn | techouse: paste a screenshot to show us |
| 17:39.50 | techouse | just 1 sec |
| 17:40.06 | McL0VIN | ascii158: i have tcpdump running |
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| 17:42.23 | ascii158 | then try to connect and paste the output of tcpdump to some pastebin |
| 17:43.01 | McL0VIN | ascii158: wtf it is connecting now |
| 17:43.04 | McL0VIN | wow |
| 17:43.16 | McL0VIN | i have no clue what is going one |
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| 17:43.54 | twobitsprite | so, I keep seeing this "mkfile" command being tossed around on the interwebs, but I don't seem to have it on either of my debian boxes... |
| 17:44.00 | twobitsprite | apt-file doesn't find it either |
| 17:44.41 | techouse | valdyn: be back in 5 min in debian |
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| 17:44.42 | ascii158 | McL0VIN: then stop tcpdump and try again. if it works, just ignore it and be glad :-) |
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| 17:46.03 | dutchfish | twobitsprite, equiv: dd if=/dev/zero of=/file/to/create bs=<whatever> count=<whatever> |
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| 17:47.03 | twobitsprite | dutchfish: not equiv... dd will actually send bytes |
| 17:47.15 | twobitsprite | if I'm doing this over a highly latent NFS server... |
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| 17:48.27 | clearscreen | Do kernel packages generated by make-kpkg automatically update grub? |
| 17:48.28 | techouse | valdyn: back...just let me make a screen in debian and upload it |
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| 17:48.47 | McL0VIN | ascii158: it working |
| 17:49.02 | rasca | Hi, I'm not sure where to ask, so I'll give it a try here. I'm trying to figure out if Pure-FTPd has some kind of total data transfered filter. It has UL/DL bandwith ratios in kb/s, but not total. Anyone any clues? |
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| 17:49.09 | McL0VIN | ascii158: just a question , where does tcpdump keep a log |
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| 17:49.40 | dutchfish | twobitsprite, maybe mkswap ? |
| 17:49.59 | dutchfish | twobitsprite, just guessing because i dont know your purpose |
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| 17:51.20 | techouse | valdyn: debian: http://i33.tinypic.com/2ldtvmc.png |
| 17:51.28 | techouse | valdyn: ubuntu: http://i34.tinypic.com/jfdk01.png |
| 17:51.50 | twobitsprite | dutchfish: well... redhat and solaris both have mkfile, so I was just surprised that debian doesn't |
| 17:52.03 | dutchfish | twobitsprite, well its no gnu |
| 17:52.15 | ascii158 | McL0VIN: it doesn't |
| 17:52.27 | ascii158 | unless you tell it to (argument -w) |
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| 17:52.41 | McL0VIN | or > logfile |
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| 17:52.55 | ascii158 | well, that's a function of the shell :-) |
| 17:53.18 | valdyn | techouse: the debian fonts look *better* on my screen |
| 17:53.24 | valdyn | techouse: on your screenshots |
| 17:53.24 | techouse | eh? |
| 17:53.29 | techouse | rly? |
| 17:53.37 | techouse | they look less smooth though |
| 17:53.38 | mhymn | same here |
| 17:53.47 | techouse | hmm....must be my eyes then :P |
| 17:54.23 | techouse | i mean, not that they are worse/better, just less smooth |
| 17:54.28 | Titan8990 | I am wanting to mirror a debian repo... In the guide it says "Setup the .ssh/authorized_keys for the mirror user and place the public key of your upstream mirror into it." How is one to acquire the public key? |
| 17:54.36 | techouse | could it maybe be cause of the resolution differences? |
| 17:54.37 | Polarina | How can I figure how much a directory and its content take up much disk space? |
| 17:55.00 | valdyn | techouse: you are using an lcd screen ? |
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| 17:55.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | Polarina, du -hs directory/ |
| 17:55.17 | jeff_hann | Polarina: go to that directory anf type du -h . |
| 17:55.19 | techouse | valdyn: ofc :D |
| 17:55.23 | Polarina | Thanks. |
| 17:55.29 | valdyn | techouse: well, you need to use the native resolution |
| 17:55.39 | techouse | it is at native resolution |
| 17:55.54 | techouse | never had anything else |
| 17:55.58 | valdyn | techouse: 1280x800 is bound to look ugly if 1440x900 is native |
| 17:56.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | Polarina, also look at "apt-cache show gdmap" |
| 17:56.11 | ascii158 | i like the debian one better, too |
| 17:56.11 | techouse | nono, 1280x800 is on a laptop |
| 17:56.15 | ascii158 | but the ubuntu one is smoother |
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| 17:56.24 | techouse | 1440x900is on a desktop/workstation |
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| 17:56.48 | valdyn | techouse: ok, so this is different displays |
| 17:56.56 | valdyn | techouse: the font rendering works ok in debian |
| 17:57.02 | techouse | yea |
| 17:57.04 | valdyn | techouse: but the displays are obviously different |
| 17:57.23 | techouse | maybe ubuntu has some dirty hack sort of thing in .fonts.config |
| 17:57.25 | valdyn | techouse: you might get better result of your subpixels are ordered differently |
| 17:57.40 | techouse | let me try that too |
| 17:57.43 | valdyn | techouse: nah, on your screenshots both are fine |
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| 17:58.15 | valdyn | techouse: lcd screens just have different levels of sharpness |
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| 17:58.28 | valdyn | techouse: also colors vary hugely on different lcd displays |
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| 17:59.11 | techouse | yea |
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| 17:59.37 | techouse | i tried all subpixel variants and they look all the same to me |
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| 18:00.10 | valdyn | techouse: the ubuntu fonts look slightly fatter, but thats all |
| 18:00.55 | techouse | yea, but it looks better in a sense... |
| 18:01.22 | techouse | especially with bold fonts |
| 18:01.24 | valdyn | techouse: which debian releasese on each? |
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| 18:01.39 | valdyn | techouse: err, on the debian one |
| 18:01.47 | techouse | valdyn: debian squeeze, 2.6.30-2 |
| 18:02.00 | techouse | ubuntu 9.10 beta |
| 18:02.28 | techouse | ubuntu 9.10 beta has gnome 2.28 and squeeze has 2.26 |
| 18:02.31 | techouse | maybe that's the thing? |
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| 18:02.50 | ascii158 | it could be a different x-server |
| 18:02.59 | ascii158 | or differnt font-versions |
| 18:03.01 | valdyn | techouse: i doubt it |
| 18:03.16 | valdyn | techouse: lenny->etch changes font rendering a little |
| 18:03.17 | macros169 | uh, after I installed KDE 4.3.2, my gnome's icons are all gone. How to fix gnome's icon? |
| 18:03.21 | techouse | ascii158: i copied fronts from win7 to both and use the same font |
| 18:03.23 | techouse | tahoma |
| 18:03.26 | valdyn | techouse: lenny->squeeze changes font rendering a little |
| 18:03.34 | valdyn | techouse: but youre already on squeeze so.. |
| 18:03.42 | ascii158 | hm, ok |
| 18:03.53 | karsten | How do I configure mouse (xorg) to be slower / less twitchy |
| 18:04.22 | techouse | karsten: system-->preferensces-->mouse? |
| 18:04.47 | techouse | valdyn: let me check what X each one has |
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| 18:06.28 | valdyn | techouse: /etc/fonts/conf.* has configurations, i cant help you with that, but you can compare.. |
| 18:07.11 | valdyn | techouse: or change rendering backend with dpkg-reconfigure x-ttcidfont-conf |
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| 18:07.47 | techouse | squeeze: xserver-xorg 7.4-4; ubuntu has xserver-xorg 7.4-3ubuntu5 |
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| 18:09.18 | techouse | valdyn: hmm....maybe...dunno |
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| 18:12.41 | emaia | hello |
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| 18:12.51 | valdyn | techouse: i cant see subpixel smoothing being selected on ubuntu while i can on your debian |
| 18:13.20 | emaia | I need to enable debug in autofs. Anyone knows how i can do that? thks |
| 18:13.41 | techouse | ubuntu changed that |
| 18:13.57 | techouse | look in the font rendering details for it |
| 18:14.10 | techouse | they did some sort of predefined stit |
| 18:14.12 | techouse | shit* |
| 18:14.26 | techouse | it all has a - cause this combination is "custom" |
| 18:14.42 | valdyn | techouse: this also doesnt look like squeeze |
| 18:14.47 | techouse | it's been like that in ubuntu since 9.04 |
| 18:15.02 | valdyn | techouse: i see in squeeze you are using a lenny gnome-font-properties |
| 18:15.07 | techouse | valdyn: what do you mean |
| 18:15.23 | techouse | say what? |
| 18:15.30 | valdyn | techouse: squeeze should have gnome-appearance-properties just like ubuntu |
| 18:15.31 | techouse | i'm not followinf |
| 18:15.36 | valdyn | techouse: with tabs |
| 18:15.45 | techouse | well....dunno |
| 18:16.12 | techouse | i did a dist-upgrade with apt a long time ago and have kept it up-to-date since today |
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| 18:16.49 | hochron | If I clicked new login from x, and it said that nobody on virtual terminal 4 was logged in, do I have an intruder? |
| 18:18.24 | techouse | valdyn: oh, you mean the tabs: theme | background | fonts | interface? |
| 18:18.35 | techouse | i got them i just covered them with those preferences in the pic |
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| 18:22.39 | stuckey | What's an easy way to get umlauts on the screen without adding in something to xrog and restarting? |
| 18:22.47 | stuckey | I need ae, ue, oe. |
| 18:22.48 | [Jasper] | hej guys, can someone give me some insight about how to setup sendmail with php? |
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| 18:23.26 | stuckey | Isn't there a keyboard shortcut to input them? |
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| 18:25.00 | jelly-home | [Jasper]: you don't need sendmail, any mail server will do. |
| 18:25.26 | [Jasper] | jelly-home exim was installed |
| 18:25.31 | [Jasper] | but it got replaced when I installed sendmail |
| 18:25.34 | jelly-home | [Jasper]: that's good enough. |
| 18:25.43 | jelly-home | [Jasper]: oh, you needn't have. |
| 18:25.44 | [Jasper] | so remove sendmail |
| 18:25.52 | [Jasper] | and get exim4 back up ? |
| 18:25.59 | jelly-home | [Jasper]: no, just install exim4 or postfix back. |
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| 18:26.35 | [Jasper] | ok so postfix prolly |
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| 18:26.53 | jelly-home | there should be a big sticker on Debian's php docs "no you don't need friggin Sendmail" |
| 18:27.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | !compose |
| 18:27.17 | dpkg | To enter chars like ïÃô¿ or éâßñ in X, "xmodmap -e 'keycode 117 = Multi_key'". After that, you can use your rightmost windows key as a Compose key, e.g. pressing windows-key, ~, n in sequence will produce ñ or ñAsk me about <compose sequences> for a how to find out what key combinations you can use. Similar functionality for the console can be achieved using the loadkeys command, or http://andrew.triumf.ca/iso8859-1-compose.html |
| 18:27.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | stuckey, ^^^ |
| 18:27.29 | [Jasper] | jelly-home postfix is installed |
| 18:27.31 | [Jasper] | how can I set it up now |
| 18:27.42 | churl1 | Hello, is there a best way to install 486 updates? or just install the whole thing with update manager? |
| 18:27.59 | jelly-home | CutMeOwnThroat: funny how _that_ factoid of all has screwed up encoding |
| 18:28.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah |
| 18:28.22 | karsten | techouse: CLI? |
| 18:28.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | I just looked at it and tried to figure if it's really screwed or if I just looked at it in a screwed way :) |
| 18:28.31 | karsten | techouse: Not using GNOME/KDE. |
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| 18:28.56 | [Jasper] | jelly-home can you give me some information how to setup postfix then with php? |
| 18:29.16 | techouse | karsten: ah :D |
| 18:29.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | éâÃñ is as it was intended, I think - the other... mangled UTF? |
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| 18:30.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, it's actually not screwed up... "~, n in sequence will produce ñ or ñ" - I think it might be for irc clients with different encodings |
| 18:30.03 | jelly-home | [Jasper]: first make sure mail works without php, then just make php's mail() use /usr/sbin/sendmail (I _think_ it is default) |
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| 18:30.42 | jelly-home | Compose < 3 |
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| 18:30.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, some will see the stuff before the or correctly, some will see the stuff after it |
| 18:30.53 | jelly-home | ⥠|
| 18:31.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | not for me |
| 18:31.12 | jelly-home | yes for you! |
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| 18:31.22 | jelly-home | xoxoxo |
| 18:31.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | Compose < 3 doesn't make a ⥠for me |
| 18:31.42 | jelly-home | CutMeOwnThroat: which irc client? |
| 18:32.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | got nothing to do with the client... my compose encodings are different than yours for some reason |
| 18:32.15 | jelly-home | CutMeOwnThroat: your loss |
| 18:32.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | Compose 0^ = ° |
| 18:32.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | (as ist SHOULD BE!!!!!123) |
| 18:32.37 | jelly-home | â° |
| 18:32.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | heh |
| 18:32.46 | jelly-home | ¹ |
| 18:33.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | µ |
| 18:33.06 | jelly-home | E=mc² |
| 18:33.09 | [Jasper] | how can I send a mail from commandline jelly-home ? |
| 18:33.27 | jelly-home | [Jasper]: echo test | mailx -s subject recipient@example.com |
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| 18:34.04 | jelly-home | [Jasper]: or mail, or mutt, instead of mailx |
| 18:34.49 | jelly-home | [Jasper]: then check a) the recipient's inbox, and b) /var/log/mail.log to see what the mail server did with that mail. |
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| 18:37.11 | Pudgy | Hello all, Does anyone know where I can change the program mutt runs when opening an attachment? |
| 18:37.22 | Pudgy | (in debian?) |
| 18:37.30 | elenril | mailcap |
| 18:38.19 | elenril | Pudgy: /etc/mailcap or ~/.mailcap |
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| 18:38.59 | Pudgy | elenril: thank you! do you even know if debian has a slang util to config that, or is it just editing by hand? |
| 18:39.30 | elenril | no idea |
| 18:39.42 | elenril | just edits it manually |
| 18:40.02 | Pudgy | ;) |
| 18:40.20 | CodeNinja | I'm having problems getting my hostkeys working.... I did ssh-keygen -t rsa; added a passphrase, and added them into sshd_config, when I restart ssh says it can't find them, the key itself is root:root 600, the .pub is root:root 644, verified the filenames are correct. any suggestions? |
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| 18:41.47 | CodeNinja | oh. no pasphrase |
| 18:41.48 | CodeNinja | duh |
| 18:41.55 | [Jasper] | jelly-home |
| 18:42.00 | [Jasper] | Oct 14 20:31:39 dl-prv01 postfix/master[9383]: fatal: bind 0.0.0.0 port 25: Address already in use |
| 18:42.17 | stuckey | Could anyone tell me where I can find the xorg documention? |
| 18:42.23 | stuckey | locally... |
| 18:42.41 | stuckey | /usr/share/doc/ just has copyright shit |
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| 18:43.58 | cahoot | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.18 | elenril | xorg has documentation? o_0 |
| 18:44.45 | jelly-home | [Jasper]: that's a bit weird. fuser -n tcp 25 tells you which process is already using it |
| 18:45.17 | jelly-home | [Jasper]: if you have any leftover 'sendmail*' packages, purge them |
| 18:45.27 | stuckey | cahoot: there isn't a /usr/share/doc/xorg.conf |
| 18:45.58 | jelly-home | cahoot: itym x.org |
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| 18:46.15 | [Jasper] | jelly-home: 25/tcp: 7725 |
| 18:46.15 | hochron | what is the password to the nobody acct if you never change it? |
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| 18:46.26 | [Jasper] | root 7725 0.0 0.5 51184 2088 ? Ss 20:18 0:00 sendmail: MTA: accepting connections |
| 18:46.37 | cahoot | jelly-home: true - but google took care of the mistake |
| 18:46.39 | jelly-home | [Jasper]: yeah, so sendmail is still running |
| 18:46.49 | jelly-home | for some reason |
| 18:46.56 | [Jasper] | hmm |
| 18:47.02 | [Jasper] | I apt-get removed it jelly-home ... |
| 18:47.35 | jelly-home | [Jasper]: if you have any leftover packages with a name starting in sendmail, purge them |
| 18:47.45 | hark | stuckey: fwiw there's xorg-docs |
| 18:48.10 | [Jasper] | jelly you mean apt-get purge? |
| 18:48.17 | jelly-home | [Jasper]: dpkg -l 'sendmail*'|grep '^.i' |
| 18:48.29 | stuckey | hark: it's just copyright |
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| 18:48.33 | stuckey | there's no actually doc |
| 18:48.34 | stuckey | damn it |
| 18:48.38 | hark | stuckey: no it's not |
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| 18:49.00 | jelly-home | [Jasper]: yes, but that's not correct; either "apt-get --purge remove foo", or "aptitude purge foo" |
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| 18:49.08 | jblx | i heart debian. |
| 18:49.13 | stuckey | hark: tell me where there's documentation |
| 18:49.17 | stuckey | like the directory |
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| 18:49.59 | hark | stuckey: apt-cache show xorg-docs |
| 18:50.15 | stuckey | oh I have to install it. |
| 18:51.14 | abrotman | odd how that works |
| 18:51.35 | stuckey | hark: where do I learn how to configure the xorg.conf? |
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| 18:52.01 | hark | stuckey: man xorg.conf? |
| 18:53.31 | stuckey | hark: didn't find what I was looking for |
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| 18:53.54 | hark | stuckey: well, what are you looking for then? |
| 18:54.05 | stuckey | hark: how to change keyboard locales |
| 18:54.32 | peterrooney | stuckey: one place to start is... man 4 foo-video-driver |
| 18:55.13 | stuckey | The last time I looked this up it was somewhere where all of the local documentation is kept. |
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| 18:55.19 | stuckey | Where is that place? /usr/share/doc/ ? |
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| 18:57.00 | hark | stuckey: what version of debian? squeeze onwards you can use /etc/default/console-setup |
| 18:57.09 | stuckey | sid |
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| 18:58.23 | hark | stuckey: dpkg-reconfigure console-setup |
| 18:59.01 | stuckey | hark: I want to set the hereto useless windows key on my keyboard to change the locales when I press it... and light up the scroll lock key when I press it... from german to english. |
| 18:59.16 | stuckey | Why the hell isn't there documentation for xorg anymore in /usr/share/doc/??? |
| 18:59.42 | hark | stuckey: and this http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/InputHotplugGuide |
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| 19:01.03 | stuckey | I don't get it |
| 19:01.12 | stuckey | So everything has been changed and I can't define this in xorg.confg? |
| 19:01.19 | jelly-home | stuckey: yes. |
| 19:01.25 | jelly-home | \o/ |
| 19:01.34 | stuckey | worthless |
| 19:01.48 | jelly-home | but you're running sid, so you're already accustomed to such things |
| 19:02.01 | stuckey | i just want to write a fucking letter in german |
| 19:02.08 | jelly-home | use setxkbmap, then |
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| 19:02.26 | hark | you can still use xorg.conf and things like setxkbmap, but this is how it's done now |
| 19:02.41 | hark | at least until hal goes away :) |
| 19:03.01 | jelly-home | or a wrapper for it, like kxkb (kdebase-workspace-bin) |
| 19:03.13 | stuckey | jelly-home: how do I use setxkbmap |
| 19:03.14 | stuckey | what does it do |
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| 19:04.03 | jelly-home | it sets the... keyboard map and various little options for it |
| 19:04.20 | stuckey | jelly-home: how do I change to german keyboard and then back to english? |
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| 19:04.40 | jelly-home | stuckey: setxkbmap de [do stuff] setxkbmap us |
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| 19:05.02 | stuckey | jelly-home: thatäs usefull |
| 19:05.09 | jelly-home | indeed. |
| 19:05.32 | stuckey | whereäs the sharp s_ |
| 19:05.49 | jelly-home | desktop environments like gnome or kde usually have systray thingies to show the current layout and change options easily |
| 19:05.53 | stuckey | OH, found it |
| 19:06.04 | stuckey | -me doesnät like desktop environments |
| 19:06.29 | jelly-home | I use whatever bits of those that work well. |
| 19:06.43 | jelly-home | kxkb is one such thing. |
| 19:08.01 | jelly-home | it's a friendly clickable thing, and shows the setxkmap command line for the current options chosen by clicking. Then one can paste those options into /etc/wherever/console-setup |
| 19:08.22 | jelly-home | for hal to hopefully pick them up when next X restarts |
| 19:08.34 | hark | you have hal-setup-keymap too |
| 19:09.10 | jelly-home | hark: where is it documented? |
| 19:09.40 | jelly-home | if it wasn't in NEWS.Debian at install/upgrade time, I didn't see it. |
| 19:10.23 | jelly-home | No manual entry for hal-setup-keymap |
| 19:10.23 | jelly-home | See 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available. |
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| 19:10.54 | hark | not documented, not meant to be used by users as well. sorry ;) |
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| 19:13.51 | jelly-home | hark: it's good to see /usr/bin/ polluted by things not meant to be, er, used by users. |
| 19:14.03 | jelly-home | !use hark |
| 19:14.14 | jelly-home | dpkg: test |
| 19:14.14 | dpkg | epic test fail |
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| 19:15.37 | solar_sea | are there any lenny amd64 install images that use the latest grub ? |
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| 19:16.47 | solar_sea | I'm having a grub/vmware issue with lenny and the legacy one isn't supported anymore, I want to see if the same thing will happen when it runs grub 2 |
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| 19:18.34 | jelly-home | solar_sea: can you not install grub-pc before the first reboot from the alt-f2 console |
| 19:19.11 | solar_sea | jelly-home: I currently get a grub error 21 whenever I attach a physical drive to the vmware machine, booting from the debian cd alone works fine |
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| 19:20.18 | solar_sea | I can't boot debian at all in order to install it and later install grub-pc |
| 19:21.15 | jelly-home | wait a minute... does the installer itself use grub these days? |
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| 19:21.44 | solar_sea | looks so to me, I'm booting from the amd64 business card iso |
| 19:22.11 | jelly-home | solar_sea: what about a proper netinst |
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| 19:22.50 | solar_sea | I'd like to install deb without going bare on the hardware, e.g. shutting my current os |
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| 19:23.10 | jblx | why |
| 19:23.23 | jblx | just do a standard install like a normal person |
| 19:23.24 | jelly-home | solar_sea: debootstrap |
| 19:23.35 | jblx | problem exists between seat and keyboard |
| 19:24.42 | solar_sea | jblx: for the sake of the example, let's say that I run production software and I'm not allowed the required downtime to install deb. anyway, It looks like this is caused by vmware reordering devices and therefore grub passing out. I'll try to boot a SBM first and reorder them back |
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| 19:25.01 | jblx | schedule a maintenance window |
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| 19:25.16 | jelly-home | solar_sea: you can't tell vmware to boot from cd when a hdd is attached? |
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| 19:25.50 | solar_sea | I do so and the grub on the cd fails with error 21 when a hdd is attached. When I remove the hdd it boots fine and displays the debian logo and installer options |
| 19:25.53 | jelly-home | solar_sea: what's your host OS? |
| 19:26.04 | solar_sea | xp, x64 |
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| 19:26.22 | g00se | For the command wodim dev=/dev/hdd -scanbus can some wodimmer tell me if http://pastebin.com/f64db6b99 is normal output? |
| 19:26.24 | peterrooney | solar_sea: the correct answer is, you are not being provided the resourced required to do what has been asked of you. problem exists in management |
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| 19:26.33 | jelly-home | solar_sea: does vmware have any special prequisites when you use a physical device? |
| 19:26.36 | hark | maybe the expert mode has an option for grub-pc |
| 19:26.36 | peterrooney | s/resourced/resources/ |
| 19:26.44 | jelly-home | solar_sea: vbox does. |
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| 19:27.09 | jelly-home | solar_sea: it won't let you write on MBR properly for some reason. |
| 19:27.32 | solar_sea | usually not, it just requires that the drive isn't mounted by the OS. I can attach the hdd that runs my current OS, it boots fine, but when I attach any of the other two empty hdd, prepartitioned for the deb install it fails |
| 19:28.05 | icemon | Help, I overwrote my /boot partition. My kernel and initramfs are gone, and they contained information about software RAID and LUKS and LVM2. I |
| 19:28.10 | jelly-home | solar_sea: er... "boots" != "write on MBR" |
| 19:29.00 | icemon | Is there a howto I could refer to about rebuilding it? |
| 19:29.17 | solar_sea | It doesn't get to any kernel loading at all, grub fails after stage 1.5 and the deb install doesn't run. I don't see what could require grub writing to the mbr at that time |
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| 19:29.35 | semon | Hey Guys, I just set up Debian on an eee PC and the only problem left is the @-key, (german, so alt-gr and q), not working. I tried to google this issue... Didnt find a solution, though @ works in the shell, but not on xserver or kde or whatever. Sry for my lack of knowledge. |
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| 19:29.42 | wiretapped | does debian-installer still support text-mode? eg, not ncurses, but actual text mode |
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| 19:29.53 | pobega | Are there any references for writing daemons in Perl (and in general)? I have to write one for work and I want to do it right (doing `while (sleep 30)` feels so dirty) |
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| 19:30.08 | jelly-home | solar_sea: you tried emulating different type of controller & device (sata or scsi or ide)? |
| 19:30.22 | wiretapped | supposing i'm installing over a terminal that sucks |
| 19:30.26 | wiretapped | and ncurses is no good |
| 19:30.34 | Cerise | i can't instal libperl-dev |
| 19:30.37 | wiretapped | I want old-fashion text mode |
| 19:30.39 | wiretapped | can i has it? |
| 19:30.46 | solar_sea | yep, tried with all options, both for scsi and ide channels, no matter the device type I get the same error |
| 19:30.49 | jblx | oh jesus this is painful |
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| 19:30.53 | Cerise | when doing apt-get install libperl-dev |
| 19:30.54 | Cerise | i get |
| 19:30.56 | jelly-home | pobega: eh, first thing to do when writing in Perl, go to CPAN and see if anyone's already done it |
| 19:31.02 | Cerise | Fehl http://ftp.de.debian.org lenny/main libperl-dev 5.10.0-19 |
| 19:31.02 | Cerise | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:31.20 | jelly-home | Cerise: do an update. |
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| 19:31.35 | Keo | I'm fairly sure my install of Lenny is haunted. |
| 19:31.36 | Cerise | i already did apt-get update |
| 19:31.41 | jelly-home | judd: versions libperl-dev |
| 19:31.44 | judd | jelly-home: libperl-dev -- etch: 5.8.8-7etch6 etch-security: 5.8.8-7etch6 lenny: 5.10.0-19 sid: 5.10.1-5 squeeze: 5.10.1-5 |
| 19:31.51 | Tramp | pobega: googling for "daemonize script <your favorite language>" should give plenty of references |
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| 19:32.23 | jelly-home | Cerise: then your mirror is broken |
| 19:32.27 | Keo | I plugged in my printer, and it worked right away... Where do I submit the bug report? |
| 19:32.50 | g00se | There's normally no mounting done with devices to be used with wodim is there? |
| 19:32.51 | solar_sea | jelly-home: I'm a moron, I think I found out what's happening |
| 19:32.52 | pobega | jelly-home: I already installed a few daemonizing libraries, but I'm just wondering how to structure the actual code; is looping around a sleep function an ugly way to do it? |
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| 19:33.20 | solar_sea | those two drives haven't got their old MBRs cleaned and they had another distro installed before that |
| 19:33.22 | \amethyst | pobega: what does it do when it wakes up? |
| 19:33.41 | solar_sea | so that message was caused by this leftover grub in one of the mbr, and not from the installer at all |
| 19:33.42 | Cerise | i just changed ftp.de.debian.org in sources.list to ftp.debian.org |
| 19:33.45 | fignewman | In aptitude, is there a way to make "expandable" fields non-expandable? I don't really want the package name to be expandable. |
| 19:33.45 | Cerise | is this right? |
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| 19:34.22 | pobega | \amethyst: I'm making a script that basically checks if a user is idle, and if so checks how long they've been idle, and if it's greater than a preset time (1 hour) kicks the user off |
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| 19:34.34 | Cerise | well, looks so. i can install libperl-dev now. |
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| 19:35.03 | fignewman | pobega: have you looked at the autolog package? |
| 19:35.45 | pobega | fignewman: no, but I'm about to. |
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| 19:36.35 | envirocbr | anyone know of compatibility issues with the Shuttle SG31G2 on board Ethernet adapter with Debian? |
| 19:36.42 | pobega | fignewman: I can't find any information on it (but maybe I'm searching for the wrong thing) |
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| 19:38.13 | pobega | oh wow |
| 19:38.23 | pobega | I just noticed that I'm in the wrong channel. |
| 19:38.26 | pobega | Hahahaha |
| 19:39.14 | pobega | meant to ask in #perl |
| 19:39.14 | pobega | sorry guys |
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| 19:40.04 | solar_sea | what is the most appropriate file system for the root and the usr partitions ? I'll be using XFS for home, but I need something reliable that will work through a power failure without any manual intervention required to fix it |
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| 19:40.38 | jelly-home | ext3. |
| 19:40.46 | pobega | solar_sea: that's kind of an opinionated question; but personally I use JFS or ext3 |
| 19:40.54 | icemon | I just got a caall, I have to leave. If anyone was planning on responding to my /boot troubles, PM me if you'd like. Ill ask again in a couple hours. |
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| 19:42.00 | solar_sea | any specific mount options require for it ? once I set it up, it would be pretty much read-only so if there is any way to speed it up - I'm listening |
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| 19:42.58 | \amethyst | solar_sea: noatime or relatime might make sense then |
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| 19:43.24 | \amethyst | solar_sea: so that reading won't cause writes |
| 19:43.39 | solar_sea | good point, noatime does this I presume ? |
| 19:44.04 | \amethyst | yes; relatime only updates the atime if the old atime was older than the mtime (so only once in between modifications) |
| 19:44.18 | fignewman | solar_sea: I have, in the past, mounted /usr ro and just used 'mount -o remount,rw' when I needed to update things. The filesystem is then always 'clean' as far as fsck is concerned. |
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| 19:45.02 | \amethyst | some programs use the atime to see, e.g., whether you've checked your mail, so noatime occasionally causes problems; relatime fixes those at the expense of an extra write when you first access a file after writing it |
| 19:45.26 | solar_sea | nice, what else from the / should I move to a standalone partition then besides home - /var and /temp ? |
| 19:45.48 | solar_sea | then I can mount the / ro after the install and just use it |
| 19:46.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | /home? |
| 19:46.09 | fignewman | solar_sea: if you mount / ro, you need to make /etc/mtab a link to /proc/mounts (and there are some oddities from that) |
| 19:46.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | why would you want a ro / anyway |
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| 19:46.33 | fignewman | (isn't it time for /etc/mtab to move to /var anyway?) |
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| 19:47.16 | solar_sea | CutMeOwnThroat: to reduce the risk of something going wrong with the system itself, /home will be mounted rw too |
| 19:47.25 | \amethyst | fignewman: but 1. that would require changing a lot of programs, and 2. it is needed before /var is mounted |
| 19:47.39 | \amethyst | fignewman: I agree, though, /etc seems wrong these days |
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| 19:48.02 | Tramp | but one usually could mount /usr ro, right? |
| 19:48.36 | \amethyst | yeah, RO /usr is much easier to do than RO / |
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| 19:48.42 | solar_sea | fignewman: isn't proc a generated content, can I create a symlink/hardlink to it ? |
| 19:48.43 | fignewman | \amethyst: 1. it could still be a symlink in /etc (like how /etc/rmt sometimes is) 2. good point, although maybe mount could just fallback internally to /proc/mounts. That's probably the only app that needs it before /var is mounted |
| 19:49.30 | fignewman | solar_sea: Yes. It's pretty common to make a link to /proc/mounts. The data in /etc/mtab is slightly different, but I can't remember the details. |
| 19:49.47 | \amethyst | fignewman: one issue is that /proc/mounts loses some information compared to mtab... bind mounts are one example I can think of (/proc/mounts shows the device of the from filesystem, rather than the directory the way mtab does) |
| 19:50.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | you can't create hardlinks to files on a different mounted partition |
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| 19:50.51 | \amethyst | fignewman: so if you had a bind mount before mounting /var, mount would show it wrong (since the bind mount information wouldn't be recorded ) |
| 19:50.53 | fignewman | \amethyst: but again, this is just a stopgap until /var is mounted and the /etc/mtab link becomes valid. Anyway, it would be a nice thing to some day get cleaned up. |
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| 19:51.08 | fignewman | \amethyst: ok, I see. |
| 19:51.10 | comradekingu | http://www.stumbleupon.com/s/#2JZQej/www.hemju.com/2009/10/13/new-details-about-google-os// No suprises, uses debian. |
| 19:51.33 | karsten | fignewman: Used to be that having /etc/mtab symlink to /proc/mounts caused problems especially for loopback filesystems. |
| 19:52.10 | karsten | fignewman: You can also play with union mounts. |
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| 19:52.56 | solar_sea | karsten: but can it be used without major issues now ? |
| 19:53.33 | fignewman | any aptitude devs in here? I'm a recent dselect convert (mostly because dselect kinda broke in 1.15.4) and I'm annoyed by the way it handles 'expandable fields'. Is there any way to make a default-exandable field un-expandable? |
| 19:54.19 | fignewman | I have a very wide terminal (202 columns right now) and things like 'aptitude search ~N' are really hard to read with all that whitespace between the two columns. |
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| 19:55.24 | fignewman | solar_sea: what is it you're doing that makes it so you need to be so resilient to power failures? |
| 19:55.24 | jetscreamer | how dare you abandon dselect in it's hour of need... |
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| 19:55.50 | fignewman | jetscreamer: I didn't want to :( I kept its room just the way it left it! |
| 19:55.51 | jetscreamer | course no new (or all rather) packages isn't the greatest |
| 19:56.23 | jetscreamer | fignew: afaict, it's not dselect exactly... even downgrading to the lenny version i still get that |
| 19:56.31 | jetscreamer | but anyway, not what you asked |
| 19:56.35 | solar_sea | testing various scenarios for a production environment |
| 19:57.19 | fignewman | jetscreamer: I downgraded to the last version that worked and was happy for a while, but a few people have been giving me crap for refusing to accept the awesomeness that is aptitude. |
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| 19:57.58 | jetscreamer | hmm.... didn't work for me :(. they lart me in here all the time for using dselect, but i'm used to it |
| 19:57.59 | solar_sea | that will run some heavy j2ee app. windows failover clusters are fine when using network storage, if a node fails another one will re-run the software, but I want to make a strong standalone config using linux |
| 19:58.09 | fignewman | jetscreamer: I'm finding the lack of a --print-uris feature really annoying. I used that in scripts. I also had a hard time working around 'dpkg --purge --pending' no longer working. |
| 19:59.09 | jetscreamer | i can't even tell if anybody cares if it's broken (devs i mean) |
| 19:59.15 | jetscreamer | but, not what you asked about :) |
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| 20:00.37 | fignewman | jetscreamer: it's cool. We could start a "I Still Love Dselect" support group and the dozen or so of us who care could make sarcastic comments about how bloated and slow aptitude is and snicker amongst ourselves. |
| 20:00.48 | peterrooney | fignewman: maybe s/he's working in kansas? |
| 20:01.27 | jetscreamer | i did try aptitude (again) .... blegh. |
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| 20:02.24 | fignewman | jetscreamer: there are some nice ideas in there. I like how you can get a list of new packages with 'aptitude search ~N'. I still find apt-cache search way nicer than aptitude search tho |
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| 20:03.28 | m314 | are there any issues with running the amd64 port on a desktop these days? |
| 20:03.48 | jetscreamer | i tried aptitude when it first came into debian also. i did --with-suggests --with-recommends . the install went on forever till i ctrl-c'd it |
| 20:04.05 | jetscreamer | iirc they don't have one of those commands in there anymore |
| 20:04.38 | jetscreamer | seemed like it wanted to install practically the whole repo |
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| 20:06.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | fignewman, well, yes, now if anybody knew (could remember) what ~N means... |
| 20:06.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's not even documented in man/info pages, you have to dig it out from /usr/share/doc |
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| 20:09.12 | paxcoder | I gdebi'd a new version of gedit. It failed because there were unmet dependencies (new libgtk), but it seems it's registered still or something. Now I can't do apt-get -t unstable for libgtk for some reason (although repos are pinned, and preferences set), and I can't remove it with what apt-get suggest (apt-get -f install) because gnome has a dependency on gedit. |
| 20:09.12 | fignewman | CutMeOwnThroat: fortunately that's about the only thing I use aptidude search for so I'm able to remember that one, but I have to say, the author(s) of aptitude have no clue how to do UI work |
| 20:09.12 | paxcoder | What do I do? |
| 20:09.56 | fignewman | err, no offense to the aptitude devs. Nice work and all, but the ui is missing a lot of polish |
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| 20:10.18 | karsten | fignewman: You're talking about the ncurses interface? |
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| 20:10.38 | karsten | fignewman: There are GNOME/KDE front-ends. Synaptic and ... something else |
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| 20:10.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | the ~[a-zA-Z] searches are neat, but really some easy access to them is missing |
| 20:10.56 | karsten | fignewman: kpackage, IIRC. |
| 20:11.23 | fignewman | karsten: lots of things. The highlighting in the ncurses interface is really poor. You can't see where your scrollbar is sometimes. The 'expandable fields' thing was poorly done. Just having everything default to non-expandable and then using # when you need it would have been nice. The way you override colors is very confusing and gives different results based on what the default was. |
| 20:11.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | fignewman, it's all your fault... now I ran "aptitude search ~o |wc -l" and it returned 358 :( |
| 20:11.27 | karsten | fignewman: I generally use aptitude as CLI only. Forget that w/o args it drops into a full app. |
| 20:11.46 | karsten | fignewman: mutt bindings! |
| 20:12.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | karsten, we were only talking about the cl options |
| 20:12.14 | fignewman | karsten: I use fvwm :) |
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| 20:12.30 | karsten | fignewman: For mail? |
| 20:12.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | ha, I found the other guy on this earth who uses fvwm! |
| 20:12.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | \o/ |
| 20:12.34 | hochron | isn't debian 4 called lenny? what is 5 called? |
| 20:12.46 | fignewman | karsten: no. You mentioned there were gnome/kde frontends. |
| 20:12.48 | Nonpython | are there drivers for the Motorola SURFboard SB5101? |
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| 20:13.14 | edwin_quijada | hochron":4 is etch 5 lenny |
| 20:13.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | hochron, lenny is 5 |
| 20:13.16 | somiaj | hochron: http://www.debian.org/releases/ [of course the question you answer is easily found on debian.org] |
| 20:13.16 | karsten | fignewman: Ah. |
| 20:13.25 | karsten | fignewman: I use wmaker mysefl ;-) |
| 20:13.54 | hochron | ok thanx |
| 20:13.54 | karsten | hadn't realized lenny was a full point release. |
| 20:14.14 | fignewman | karsten: in any case, my original complaint was a cli thing. I want to see the list of new packages (aptitude search ~N) but because the package name is "expandable" there's about 100 columns of whitespace between the package name and description making it really hard to read. |
| 20:14.22 | karsten | hochron: Also: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ch-detailed.en.html |
| 20:14.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | openbox is also nice - mostly I'm missing an easy way to access around 40 desktops there |
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| 20:14.41 | jelly-home | karsten: they're all supposed to be .0 from now on |
| 20:14.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | don't remember if I ever used wmaker |
| 20:14.55 | karsten | fignewman: There's an apt-query tool, also apt-awk, which *may* answer your need. |
| 20:15.08 | karsten | jelly-home: Well there goes the quality. |
| 20:15.18 | karsten | jelly-home: Can't we at least make them all *.1 releases? |
| 20:15.26 | jelly-home | heheh |
| 20:15.38 | karsten | would prefer *.3 himself. |
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| 20:16.31 | somiaj | CutMeOwnThroat: fvwm is actually still a fairly popular wm... |
| 20:16.34 | wamty | !dpkg |
| 20:16.34 | dpkg | somebody said dpkg was the program used by debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also ask me about <reference>. The main info bot in #debian is also called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>. |
| 20:17.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | somiaj, maybe... never heard anyone else uses it |
| 20:17.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | until now |
| 20:17.40 | fignewman | The defaults for fvwm are kind of ugly, but it's amazing what you can configure it to do. |
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| 20:17.54 | krisfremen | hello guys |
| 20:18.06 | krisfremen | i'm getting random linux lock ups |
| 20:18.09 | fignewman | It's the only window manager that could satisfy my long list of very strange workflow requirements. |
| 20:18.13 | somiaj | CutMeOwnThroat: I've been using it for years [almost since I started using x as my desktop]...I also found a few unis that use it as the default wm for their unix computers too. |
| 20:18.35 | somiaj | krisfremen: what kinda lock ups, like computer freezing and you have to manually reboot? |
| 20:18.45 | krisfremen | what i'm getting in /var/log/messages is |
| 20:19.03 | krisfremen | somiaj: yes, it completely freezes up and i have to manually power off the server |
| 20:19.10 | krisfremen | and power it back on |
| 20:19.11 | krisfremen | Oct 12 13:06:51 Atreides kernel: [ 0.169824] ACPI Error (dsobject-0501): Package List length (6) larger than NumElements count (2), truncated |
| 20:19.35 | krisfremen | Oct 12 13:06:51 Atreides kernel: [ 8.940006] pci 0000:00:0b.1: EHCI: BIOS handoff failed (BIOS bug?) 01010001 |
| 20:19.47 | somiaj | krisfremen: that is probabaly due to hardware, if it is truely random, ram is a good thing to test, apt-get install memtest86 and boot up into that diag |
| 20:20.00 | krisfremen | i did that |
| 20:20.06 | krisfremen | it tested out ok |
| 20:20.09 | somiaj | krisfremen: the warnings could say it could be a mobo problem too, but hard lockups sound like hardware to me |
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| 20:20.21 | somiaj | krisfremen: did you run the test for say 24 hours...sometimes memory errors take a few passes to find |
| 20:20.41 | krisfremen | not 24 hours, but atleast 10 hours |
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| 20:22.16 | somiaj | krisfremen: well I'd still think hardware...but the errors you are getting are ACPI and BIOS problems, could be a faulty mobo....I mean it 'could' be software, but if you have a stock debian kernel my guess would not be that. |
| 20:23.07 | fignewman | krisfremen: you could boot with noacpi, see if that helps. |
| 20:23.16 | krisfremen | thing is, sometimes it works fine for a week or so |
| 20:23.25 | krisfremen | and then it just freezes up out of nowhere |
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| 20:23.38 | krisfremen | sometimes, even 2 hours, and it's down |
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| 20:24.06 | krisfremen | fignewman: i'll try that |
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| 20:25.41 | paxcoder | apt-get reports "Unmet dependencies." after I tried to install a new package from unstable. How can I revert it without doing "apt-get -f install" which would remove gnome? |
| 20:26.08 | somiaj | paxcoder: are you running stable by chance? |
| 20:26.16 | paxcoder | Not a chance. |
| 20:26.32 | paxcoder | Why? |
| 20:26.49 | somiaj | cause intalling an unstable package into a stable version is a bad idea |
| 20:27.11 | somiaj | but you will probabaly have to manually chase the dependencies around and use packages.debian.org to try to fix your issues |
| 20:27.11 | paxcoder | That doesn't help me much. |
| 20:27.41 | paxcoder | Oh joyful joy. I guess if I have no other option... |
| 20:27.41 | somiaj | well I was going to say that if you were mixing stable/unstable packages or testing/unstable packages you basically break things |
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| 20:28.17 | paxcoder | It's just strange that it can't be reverted. |
| 20:28.34 | somiaj | welcome to sid....might want to really consider if you want to run from usntable |
| 20:28.38 | paxcoder | And also, I don't know why the heck my "apt-get -t unstable" doesn't preform. |
| 20:28.57 | paxcoder | somiaj: consider what? |
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| 20:29.26 | somiaj | paxcoder: consider if you want to run the unstable branch and would prefer to run stable where there is extensive testing to ensure everything fits together |
| 20:29.48 | paxcoder | I consider testing old. |
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| 20:30.06 | paxcoder | (and it wouldn't help in this case anyway) |
| 20:30.36 | paxcoder | If things didn't break as it is in testing, I'd consider unstable. |
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| 20:30.48 | Hukka | Hm, why would the kernel be able to mount the root partition, but then not run fsck on any other partitions? |
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| 20:31.21 | Hukka | All of them are ext3, but even when running fsck.ext3 it complains about them not being ext2 or superblock being corrupted |
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| 20:31.26 | schmrz1 | Hello everyone. |
| 20:31.34 | Hukka | (It isn't corrupted, old kernel works just fine) |
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| 20:32.16 | schmrz1 | Just one quick question. What's the value of x in /dev/x when I want to access my usb flash drive |
| 20:32.21 | schmrz1 | Thank you : |
| 20:32.23 | schmrz1 | *:) |
| 20:32.28 | Hukka | schmrz1: Check dmesg |
| 20:32.35 | schmrz1 | ofcourse... |
| 20:32.35 | Hukka | schmrz1: Probably sda, or sdb or so one |
| 20:32.51 | Hukka | But that depends on what other hds you have plugged in |
| 20:33.03 | schmrz1 | kk |
| 20:33.09 | Hukka | so on... Ugh, what "spelling" |
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| 20:36.14 | gnarface | Hukka: you're running fsck.ext3 on a partition not on a partition table right? |
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| 20:38.32 | BoomerET | I'm running a newly installed Etch from DVD on an HP DL180 G5. Network card (Broadcom? tg3?) won't recognize, help please, I've found source rpms, but using them has been fruitless |
| 20:38.34 | BoomerET | I won't bother going into the reasons why I can't use Lenny. |
| 20:38.57 | karsten | BoomerET: 1: broadcom sucks. |
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| 20:39.22 | BoomerET | Nice, like I have a choice. |
| 20:39.22 | karsten | BoomerET: 2: you're trying the tg3 drivers / modules? |
| 20:39.22 | karsten | BoomerET: Laptop? |
| 20:39.38 | BoomerET | No, an HP server |
| 20:39.49 | karsten | BoomerET: Personal or corporate? |
| 20:40.01 | BoomerET | Corp |
| 20:40.24 | karsten | BoomerET: First thing to do is to get your hardware acceptance people aware of what does/doesn't work. Talk to HP about that. |
| 20:40.28 | BoomerET | I installed Lenny, and it found it right away. |
| 20:40.28 | Hukka | gnarface: They are on fstab, yes. I actually only tried to run them manually after kernel boot dropped into maintenance mode |
| 20:40.53 | cptblood | so upgrade then BoomerET? |
| 20:40.58 | karsten | BoomerET: We've had a *lot* of really bad luck with Broadcom and Nvidia NICs, to the extent that we get Intel nics installed instead. |
| 20:41.18 | karsten | cptblood: he's said he can't... |
| 20:41.20 | BoomerET | cptblood, scroll up and read what I typed. |
| 20:41.31 | BoomerET | Believe me, if I could, I would. |
| 20:41.32 | gnarface | Hukka: just out of curiosity could you pastebin your fstab? |
| 20:41.32 | cptblood | k , i see it now |
| 20:41.39 | wiretapped | is trying to follow http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetInstWithThirdPartyNetworkDriver |
| 20:41.46 | wiretapped | where does the debian-net-install.iso come from? |
| 20:42.01 | karsten | BoomerET: backports would be option number next. or build your own kernel. HW support's got much better recently. Otherwise, if you can do it, a chroot or virtualized etch install on a lenny box might work. |
| 20:42.07 | BoomerET | Problem is our database is PG 8.1, and would require fixing all the bad php pages and poorly written stored procedures. |
| 20:42.09 | wiretapped | Up til there, I'm all good, kernel-wedge build-all makes a bunch of udebs, including the driver i need |
| 20:42.18 | wiretapped | but I have no idea where that iso comes from then |
| 20:42.20 | karsten | BoomerET: See above. |
| 20:42.24 | BoomerET | Thanks |
| 20:42.30 | karsten | BoomerET: Backporting the kernel shouldn't affect that. |
| 20:42.44 | Nonpython | are there drivers for the Motorola SURFboard SB5101? |
| 20:42.44 | BoomerET | I've looked on backports, but my searching for 'kernel' has been fruitless :( |
| 20:42.46 | karsten | BoomerET: ... unless glibc is involved, which it might be. I'm not current on that state. |
| 20:43.04 | Hukka | gnarface: http://dpaste.com/107338/ |
| 20:43.07 | BoomerET | Major problem was actually perl-base |
| 20:43.48 | karsten | BoomerET: make-kpkg, kernel.org sources, would be my first bet. |
| 20:43.52 | BoomerET | I go to backports.org, select packages, change to Etch-backports, and search kernel or kernel-2.6 and nothing :( |
| 20:44.11 | gnarface | Hukka: i think that's right. you say it fails at sda8 first? |
| 20:44.14 | karsten | BoomerET: /msg dpkg make-kpgg kp-mantra kernel-compile |
| 20:44.53 | karsten | BoomerET: The postgresql guys (#postgresql) may be able to attack the other side, but kernel's best bet IMO. |
| 20:45.31 | BoomerET | Management won't spring for DBA's to rewrite crappy sp's |
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| 20:46.08 | BoomerET | thanks for the help, will go try a few things you've suggested. |
| 20:46.28 | karsten | BoomerET: Yeah, I feel your pain. |
| 20:46.29 | Hukka | gnarface: IIRC, yes. I've booted now into an older kernel |
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| 20:47.02 | Hukka | gnarface: But I manually tried to fsck all of them, same results |
| 20:47.11 | karsten | BoomerET: I'd make the argument to mgt for an app update though as staying behind the curve will f*ck you in teh long term. |
| 20:47.37 | gnarface | Hukka: well you obviously won't be able to fsck them if they're mounted. i assume that lsmod shows your ext3 driver is in fact loaded? |
| 20:47.41 | BoomerET | I agree, maybe within the next year. |
| 20:48.32 | Hukka | gnarface: Of course not, which is what fsck says in that case |
| 20:48.58 | Hukka | gnarface: And the kernel is able to mount /, which is also ext3 |
| 20:49.23 | gnarface | Hukka: maybe they're actually hosed? |
| 20:49.38 | Hukka | gnarface: I'm _now_ in older kernel, and it works fine |
| 20:49.46 | gnarface | weird |
| 20:49.54 | Hukka | Yes... that's why I'm here |
| 20:49.57 | gnarface | hmm. how old here? |
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| 20:50.01 | gnarface | which two kerneles? |
| 20:50.15 | Hukka | Old is 31rc6, I'm trying to get 31.4 working |
| 20:50.29 | gnarface | could this have something to do with those posix extended attributes/ACL options ? |
| 20:50.33 | Hukka | I suspect that this has something to do with the inird |
| 20:50.36 | Hukka | initrd, I mean |
| 20:50.47 | gnarface | but how if the root partition mounts? |
| 20:50.58 | Hukka | Beats me, un fortunately |
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| 20:51.07 | gnarface | oh |
| 20:51.15 | gnarface | are you using kernel_package to build this kernel? |
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| 20:51.31 | Hukka | Yeah, and update-initramfs to create initrd |
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| 20:51.45 | gnarface | they made an annoying change in some recent version where the initrd.img is no longer built by default from kernel_package |
| 20:51.56 | Hukka | gnarface: Yep, indeed they did |
| 20:52.02 | gnarface | you have to pass --initrd and add some scripts to /etc/kernel/ |
| 20:52.06 | Hukka | I very much agree on the annoyiness |
| 20:52.17 | Hukka | gnarface: |
| 20:52.17 | Hukka | gnarface: 23:51 < Hukka> Yeah, and update-initramfs to create initrd |
| 20:52.35 | gnarface | here's my question though, does it work without the --initrd option to kernel-package? |
| 20:53.03 | gnarface | i was under the impression that you needed it to set up which symbols were exported or something, in addition to trigger the scripts that just run update-initramfs |
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| 20:53.52 | Hukka | I doubt it's needed to run the scripts, as they are just general postinst hooks |
| 20:54.35 | Hukka | Any script in /etc/kernel/postinst.d will run after dpkg:ing a kernel in, IIUC |
| 20:55.50 | gnarface | i dunno i'd try it anyway |
| 20:56.04 | Hukka | Try what, without --initrd? |
| 20:56.11 | gnarface | no with --initrd |
| 20:56.15 | Hukka | I did |
| 20:56.17 | gnarface | oh |
| 20:56.26 | Hukka | As that's what used to be the right thing to do |
| 20:56.38 | Hukka | Oh well, to be exact I didn't say --initrd, I set INITRD=1 |
| 20:56.45 | gnarface | how about just compiling the module into the kernel statically? |
| 20:56.47 | Hukka | Which gives the same result |
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| 20:57.07 | Hukka | I suppose I should try that next... |
| 20:57.27 | Hukka | Oh well, I actually think that I'll just compile the thing without initrd at all |
| 20:57.35 | gnarface | at least then you can rule out the driver itself as the culprit |
| 20:57.47 | gnarface | i never trusted those initrd things myself |
| 20:58.00 | gnarface | i fear what i do not understand |
| 20:58.01 | Hukka | Used to work fine |
| 20:58.27 | Hukka | And a very sensible thing, when you might need modules at boot, but don't want to bloat the kernel binary |
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| 21:08.29 | BoomerET | Ok, backports worked (bigmem!!), and the network card is working, what can I run to simulate the network settings during an install, so I don't have to edit the hosts/interfaces/etc by hand? |
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| 21:12.11 | michelp | hello i have a beginnner question, i am installing lenny for a server, and i did 'apt-get install openssh-server' and one of the dependencies it wants to install is x11 |
| 21:12.25 | michelp | is that normal? is there a way to not install x11 but install openssh server? |
| 21:12.25 | abrotman | michelp: 1) use aptitude 2) use -R |
| 21:12.34 | abrotman | 3) it's not really installing Xorg |
| 21:12.51 | michelp | ah ok thanks, i'll give that a try |
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| 21:16.45 | michelp | abrotman, thanks for the tip! worked perfectly |
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| 21:22.52 | gnarface | ugh |
| 21:22.55 | gnarface | ide is cramping my style |
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| 21:29.20 | acidchil1 | i think i removed the init.d script for inetd using the rc update tool... anyway of putting it back or a backup dir somewhere? |
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| 21:30.09 | gnarface | just put the symlinks back in manually |
| 21:30.50 | acidchil1 | i'm not sure what i'm linking from |
| 21:31.11 | acidchil1 | and to for that matter... other than maybe /etc/init.d/inetd |
| 21:31.25 | gnarface | try this: ls -l /etc/rc?.d/*inet* |
| 21:31.34 | acidchil1 | ah cool |
| 21:31.48 | gnarface | there should be one in each rc?.d subdirectory |
| 21:32.09 | gnarface | if its first letter is K that means it will be stopped at that init level, if the first letter is S that means it will be started |
| 21:32.12 | acidchil1 | doesn't come back with anything uh.... |
| 21:32.18 | gnarface | so you hosed them all |
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| 21:32.26 | acidchil1 | i guess so |
| 21:32.46 | gnarface | easy enough to correct |
| 21:32.55 | acidchil1 | use rc.local lol |
| 21:32.58 | acidchil1 | what way is that then? |
| 21:33.07 | gnarface | just add them back |
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| 21:33.45 | gnarface | or you can use the update-rc.d script but i'd recommend a thorough read of the man page first |
| 21:34.04 | acidchil1 | will do |
| 21:34.27 | gnarface | typically its easier (and recommended) to just add each link by hand |
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| 21:36.02 | acidchil1 | i wana check out the debian way. :P |
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| 21:47.11 | BadHorsie | I'm having problems with pulseaudio 0.9.19 ? From a first sight /etc/init.d/pulseaudio doesn't even restart properly searching for a /var/run/pulse/pid file, but the directory itself /var/run/pulse doesn't even exist |
| 21:47.42 | BadHorsie | s/?/./ |
| 21:49.00 | gnarface | i don't know anyone who *doesn't* have problems with pulseaudio |
| 21:49.17 | gnarface | i'd suggest stripping it out entirely in favor of ALSA or OSS |
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| 21:51.47 | BoomerET | How do I restart network autodetection, like I was just starting an install, that will modify /etc/hosts, resolv.conf, interfaces, etc |
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| 21:52.28 | gnarface | i think you want to dpkg-reconfigure [something] but i forget which package [something] is |
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| 21:53.00 | BoomerET | Hmm, that sounds logical, but what to reconfigure |
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| 21:53.17 | gnarface | netbase perhaps? |
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| 21:56.32 | krisfremen | Ubuntu 9.04 has Linux 2.6.28 which includes a workaround for this |
| 21:56.33 | krisfremen | misfeature of the BIOS. This might be something we can apply to Debian |
| 21:56.33 | krisfremen | 5.0 in a stable update. |
| 21:56.36 | krisfremen | umm |
| 21:56.37 | krisfremen | damn |
| 21:56.49 | krisfremen | Oct 14 17:52:52 Atreides kernel: [ 0.169856] ACPI Error (dsobject-0501): Package List length (6) larger than NumElements count (2), truncated |
| 21:56.56 | krisfremen | that's what i wanted to paste |
| 21:56.59 | krisfremen | is that normal? |
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| 21:58.29 | krisfremen | what does that actually mean? |
| 21:59.48 | gnarface | krisfremen: i have no idea but if i had to venture a guess i'd say it means you should disable acpi in your bios as well as on the kernel command-line |
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| 22:00.10 | lydgate | anyone using oss4? |
| 22:00.35 | lydgate | i want to know how hard it will be to get working in debian lenny |
| 22:00.58 | krisfremen | i did put acpi=off |
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| 22:03.30 | hounddog | hey, am a little out of practice with debian but got myself a server... to locate files is the syntax not "locate myfile"? |
| 22:03.33 | gnarface | krisfremen: acpi features in older motherboard bioses are notoriously misbehaved. often there is an option to disable them there though. occasionally you can flash the bios to a newer less-buggy version |
| 22:03.54 | samferry | hounddog, i believe you can use `whereis myfile` |
| 22:04.02 | hounddog | ahhh ok |
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| 22:04.08 | samferry | let me test that, though |
| 22:04.15 | gnarface | that only works with stuff in the path |
| 22:04.18 | hounddog | was wondering as i am used to locate but this one is giving error |
| 22:04.20 | gnarface | located is not always installed |
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| 22:04.31 | hounddog | gnarface just noticed that |
| 22:04.33 | gnarface | you can install it or you could use the find command |
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| 22:04.41 | hounddog | thx :) |
| 22:04.43 | gnarface | find should always work but it will be slower than located |
| 22:04.49 | samferry | yeah, forgot about that |
| 22:04.51 | hounddog | need to brush up quite a bit |
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| 22:05.04 | hounddog | looking for the apache config... |
| 22:05.39 | gnarface | it is in /etc/apache2 |
| 22:05.54 | gnarface | (probably) |
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| 22:06.20 | hounddog | your right |
| 22:06.46 | hounddog | or not |
| 22:06.51 | hounddog | hmpf |
| 22:06.57 | gnarface | httpd.conf is empty these days |
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| 22:07.01 | gnarface | you want the apache2.conf file |
| 22:07.13 | hounddog | have some fastcgi.conf here hum |
| 22:07.29 | hounddog | somehow worked to long on centos again have to search for things |
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| 22:08.02 | gnarface | yea they broke the apache config out into modular sub-config files and symlinks to enable/disable various modules and virtual hosts easily |
| 22:08.16 | gnarface | its confusing at first but it is much easier to keep things organized |
| 22:08.16 | hounddog | ahh okay |
| 22:08.19 | hounddog | good to know |
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| 22:08.44 | gnarface | pay special attention to "sites-available" and "sites-enabled" and how the symlinks are set up |
| 22:08.54 | gnarface | modules-available and modules-enabled is set up similarly |
| 22:08.57 | hounddog | you are talking about the httpd-vhosts.conf etc? |
| 22:09.22 | gnarface | uh... hmm. maybe not |
| 22:09.27 | gnarface | which debian are you on again? |
| 22:09.46 | hounddog | let me checked... just logged in there the first time |
| 22:10.09 | gnarface | if its a 3rd party shared hosting provider they may have done their own thing |
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| 22:10.28 | gnarface | my experience is mostly with sid and lenny stock installs |
| 22:10.47 | hounddog | Linux version 2.6.28.8-20090701-filemon-iscsi-grsec (root@buildd-i386) (gcc version 4.3.2 (Debian 4.3.2-1.1) ) #1 SMP Wed Jul 1 13:06:20 CEST 2009 |
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| 22:11.24 | gnarface | hmm. |
| 22:11.31 | gnarface | no idea |
| 22:11.35 | gnarface | that looks like a custom build |
| 22:11.57 | gnarface | it might not mean anything though. do you have a /etc/apache2/sites-available directory? |
| 22:13.27 | hounddog | no |
| 22:13.33 | hounddog | i have the conf.d directory |
| 22:13.50 | gnarface | hmm. perhaps its a slightly older debian |
| 22:13.51 | hounddog | somehow this is anyhow some weird setup |
| 22:14.11 | gnarface | or a custom package the hosting provider put together for their own obscure purposes |
| 22:15.05 | hounddog | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:15.19 | gnarface | weird |
| 22:15.30 | hounddog | yeah... 1and1 server... |
| 22:15.34 | gnarface | yea that sounds like some custom shared virtual hosting setup |
| 22:15.44 | hounddog | looks like it |
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| 22:15.58 | EugenMayer | hello people. How to get the BusID of my OnBoard graficcard? lscpi and then the 00:02.0 for 0:2:0 ? |
| 22:16.04 | gnarface | all bets are off on where they put stuff but perhaps they have documentation available? |
| 22:16.43 | kury | How do I keep a module from loading on boot? |
| 22:16.56 | samferry | kury: remove it from the modules file? |
| 22:17.08 | hounddog | gnarface checking on that one allready... but actually it should be a dedicated server |
| 22:17.48 | kury | samferry: /etc/modules? it empty |
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| 22:18.10 | samferry | and it's still loading? |
| 22:18.29 | hounddog | just wanted to set up some alias for staging sites... |
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| 22:22.52 | hounddog | lets see... found a pdf documentation |
| 22:23.15 | hounddog | but definitly says in the package dedicated server... |
| 22:23.19 | kury | samferry: correct |
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| 22:25.07 | puff | Hm, I see a package that I don't remember installing, how do I check which packages depend on it? |
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| 22:29.09 | Qew | puff: aptitude search ~Dpackage should do it. package is the name of the package you're trying to find what other packages depend on. |
| 22:29.18 | puff | Qew: Thanks. |
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| 22:29.55 | puff | Hm... |
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| 22:30.10 | puff | it returned a single line, the package I was queryiny about. |
| 22:30.13 | hounddog | gnarface why am i making such a hassle... i can create some 500 subdomains |
| 22:30.32 | puff | Considering it's a password cracking package, I'm a little twitchy about this... |
| 22:30.36 | rburn | there is also apt-rdepends --reverse packagename, Pudgy |
| 22:30.42 | rburn | ups, puff |
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| 22:31.09 | hounddog | 500... more like 5k |
| 22:31.18 | gnarface | hounddog: ? |
| 22:31.31 | gnarface | if you found where your configs are go for it |
| 22:31.39 | gnarface | i don't recognize the layout they gave you |
| 22:31.39 | hounddog | wanted to actually just create a alias for staging |
| 22:31.39 | puff | rburn: apt-rpdepends? |
| 22:31.49 | hounddog | but i can also just create subdomains |
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| 22:32.12 | rburn | puff, apt-rdepends - performs recursive dependency listings similar to |
| 22:32.13 | rburn | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.15 | hounddog | i should check everything once i have time... until then i rather leave it |
| 22:32.30 | puff | Ah, a separate tool I should install. |
| 22:32.53 | rburn | yes, u have to |
| 22:33.10 | gnarface | hounddog: if they've customized the layout so that it interfaces with some sort of tool to auto-generate new virtual hosts or config changes to apache then yea you'll probably have better luck just sticking with it for now |
| 22:33.11 | rburn | but it wil list the packages that depends on that one |
| 22:33.19 | puff | Is there any other way to check? |
| 22:33.39 | puff | I just noticed that john, the password cracking package, is installed and set up as a cron job. |
| 22:33.41 | hounddog | anyhow just some simple joomla sites currently... why break my head |
| 22:33.55 | gnarface | joomla will certainly do that for you |
| 22:33.56 | puff | I don't remember doing this explicitly, so I'm trying to see who/where/when/waht installed it. |
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| 22:34.09 | rburn | puff u could try: apt-get remove packagename -s |
| 22:34.11 | gnarface | no need to spend extra effort |
| 22:34.13 | rburn | -s is simulate |
| 22:34.45 | hounddog | but in the future i might have some ffmpeg conversions etc again... |
| 22:34.50 | rburn | if it tries to remove other packages, u know they depend on it |
| 22:34.56 | hounddog | anyhow... until then :) |
| 22:35.30 | puff | Argh, aptis broken. |
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| 22:36.23 | rburn | puff, u still have dpkg and the .info file in /var/lib/apt/ |
| 22:36.26 | rburn | wait |
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| 22:37.44 | puff | http://pastebin.com/d2a4d0a3c |
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| 22:40.00 | puff | Argh, why does gnome terminal seem to randomly decide that buffering and scrolling are not worth bothering with? |
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| 22:40.58 | rburn | puff u tried apt-get install -f -s? -s to simulate |
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| 22:46.46 | puff | Hm, I'll try -f -s. |
| 22:48.19 | rburn | puff if u cant install that version of the package (not in your repos now) download the package manually and install it with dpkg -i |
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| 22:48.39 | rburn | then try apt-get install -f -s again |
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| 22:49.19 | rburn | or maybe u still have it in /var/lib/apt/cache, puff |
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| 22:53.33 | sway | would anyone happen to know of a site that explains installing debian from another distro? particularly a livecd |
| 22:54.01 | sway | because i kind of understand what i need to do, but i kind of don't |
| 22:54.57 | kury | How do I keep modules from loading durring boot that I don't use? |
| 22:55.24 | rburn | kury, put them in /etc/modules/blacklist |
| 22:55.43 | markybob | no. /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 22:55.53 | markybob | no. /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf* |
| 22:55.54 | rburn | ups, that |
| 22:56.21 | rburn | i use /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 22:56.27 | rburn | in lenny |
| 22:56.28 | kury | rburn: marcin_ I have a *file* called /etc/modules no directory though.. so where should the file go? |
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| 22:56.56 | rburn | kury, markybob corrected me |
| 22:57.05 | rburn | its /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
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| 22:57.57 | sway | this is going to be interesting |
| 22:58.36 | rburn | sway did u google? http://wiki.tmm.cx/index.php/Installing_Debian_on_a_system_from_another_distro |
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| 22:58.52 | sway | rburn: no, but thank you. |
| 22:58.57 | rburn | np |
| 22:59.11 | sway | i have debian installed on another partition here that i can navigate to |
| 22:59.29 | sway | i need to get a different kernel in there first |
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| 22:59.40 | kury | rburn: that works... thanks |
| 22:59.54 | rburn | yw kury |
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| 23:00.07 | sway | rburn: can i copy the vmlinuz for the appropriate kernel image into /boot on the existing debian partition? |
| 23:00.22 | sway | or do i have to do something to that vmlinuz thing to get it functional first? |
| 23:01.02 | ivanoats | ok, i am new to apt somewhat but i do not understand how to bypass this error: libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.7-18) but 2.9-23 is to be installed |
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| 23:01.22 | llimeht | ivanoats: don't mix different releases |
| 23:01.22 | rburn | sway, a debootstrap and a new line in bootloaders should make it work, by try to follow the link |
| 23:02.06 | valdyn | ivanoats: thats trying to tell you that you installed a newer libc6 than is available right now |
| 23:02.19 | kury | apt-get fail... http://pastebin.com/mad3ced1 ?? |
| 23:02.25 | valdyn | ivanoats: like if you are running squeeze and have sources.list pointing to lenny / stable |
| 23:02.27 | sway | rburn: but i already have a functional system in place, i just need to upgrade it. i think debootstrap writes an entire system to the disc, doesn't it? |
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| 23:02.40 | rburn | sway, yes |
| 23:02.44 | ivanoats | hmm.. i am just trying to install irb for ruby, and it tells me i need libc6, and then asks me to uninstall openoffice because of some library? |
| 23:03.04 | llimeht | !show sources.list ivanoats |
| 23:03.04 | dpkg | ivanoats: Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: find /etc/apt/ -name '*.list' -printf "n%p:\n" -exec cat {} \; |
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| 23:03.27 | rburn | sway> would anyone happen to know of a site that explains installing debian from another distro? <- i thought u wanted that |
| 23:03.31 | valdyn | ivanoats: you have an unsupported configuration: installed packages from squeeze or higher and a source.list pointing to lenny |
| 23:03.55 | sway | rburn: pardon me. you are right and i thank you for your time and assistance |
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| 23:04.01 | valdyn | ivanoats: ask the admin why he fucked up the system like that |
| 23:04.18 | rburn | sway, if u want to upgrade its different |
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| 23:04.34 | rburn | sway, maybe u can chroot to the system |
| 23:04.45 | rburn | sway, and then upgrade from there. |
| 23:04.45 | ivanoats | valdyn - it's an olpc, running a version of debian on an sd card called xtra ordinary |
| 23:04.58 | valdyn | ivanoats: so? |
| 23:04.58 | ivanoats | i will work on the pastie |
| 23:05.05 | sway | rburn: can i manipulate the system from a jailed environment? |
| 23:05.15 | ivanoats | i guess i dont understand what's messed up yet |
| 23:05.32 | valdyn | ivanoats: ill try an analogy |
| 23:05.42 | sway | rburn: i see what you're saying. kind of. |
| 23:05.44 | rburn | sway, mount /proc /dev /sys and chroot from the livecd |
| 23:05.56 | valdyn | ivanoats: your system is configured to download software for windows 95 while you are *running* windows xp |
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| 23:06.29 | valdyn | ivanoats: maybe you want to configure sources.list to get packages from squeeze, maybe you want to downgrade the system, or maybe you just want to reinstall |
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| 23:06.39 | rburn | sway, maybe ill have to copy /etc/hosts and things like that. google for chroot with network |
| 23:06.43 | llimeht | waits for valdyn to pull out a car analogy |
| 23:06.59 | valdyn | i couldnt come up with a worse analogy =/ |
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| 23:07.17 | sway | rburn: that sounds a little too complex for me at this particular minute. i'll have to do some more reading, but thank you. |
| 23:07.59 | rburn | yw sway |
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| 23:08.01 | kury | how do I get debian to cut the power when I run halt? My system just hangs at "power down" http://pastebin.com/m718ed4d4 |
| 23:08.03 | valdyn | sway: if you already have a debian system then you need to use chroot to install a debian kernel |
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| 23:08.26 | valdyn | kury: "modprobe acpi" and try again |
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| 23:08.36 | icemon | what about debootstrap |
| 23:08.43 | sway | valdyn: thank you |
| 23:08.48 | kury | valdyn: module not found.. |
| 23:08.59 | valdyn | kury: so use a debian kernel |
| 23:09.31 | kury | valdyn: it is a debian kernel.. can I add acpi? |
| 23:10.01 | valdyn | kury: nevermind, the acpi module is gone i guess |
| 23:10.04 | sway | icemon: debootstrap would write over everything and make this a lot easier |
| 23:10.12 | sway | but easy doesn't come with many lessons |
| 23:10.21 | ivanoats | valdyn, thanks for the analogy. i think i get it. i see lenny in the sources list but you could tell from the version # of libc6 that i should be asking for packages from somewhere else, right? |
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| 23:10.28 | icemon | ah |
| 23:10.37 | kury | valdyn: how can I tell if its in the kernel then? or if its loading? |
| 23:10.50 | sway | icemon: thank you nonetheless |
| 23:10.53 | valdyn | kury: its alright if you are using a debian kernel |
| 23:11.00 | rburn | sway, it will not upgrade! better to use the debian installer. |
| 23:11.17 | sway | rburn: what will not upgrade? |
| 23:11.21 | valdyn | kury: i cant help you since that subsystem appearantly changed since i had problems last time |
| 23:11.27 | rburn | sway, the debootstrap |
| 23:11.53 | russian | does anybody wants to spent 2-3 minutes and help me 2 win one litle prise? Our social network vkontakte asked users to invite some users from abroad so if i find 5 peoples who helps me i'll get a prise: ipod nano, so (i'm not a spammer and i'm not a bot, i'm just student from Russia please not to ban ) |
| 23:12.03 | valdyn | kury: acpi and apm can power down, i just dont know how that subsystem looks now that obviously the module names changed |
| 23:12.14 | sway | rburn: are you saying that the debootstrap will erase everything whereas the debian installer will use what's already there? |
| 23:12.36 | valdyn | kury: or its compiled in now |
| 23:12.54 | ivanoats | llimeht: http://gist.github.com/210479 is the result of that find packages command you asked for. |
| 23:12.55 | rburn | sway, u could mount /proc & friends in the system (/mnt/proc etc), chroot /mnt and then do what u want (mount /boot and update-initramfs) |
| 23:12.57 | valdyn | CONFIG_ACPI=y <- compiled in |
| 23:13.14 | rburn | sway, no. but debian installer is a better way to install. |
| 23:13.19 | rburn | *install* |
| 23:13.21 | sway | rburn: i can't even pretend i understood what you just said about mounting. |
| 23:13.25 | sway | rburn: thank you |
| 23:13.41 | rburn | ok, yw sway |
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| 23:14.43 | kury | valdyn: do I have to turn it on somewhere? or can I force it on? |
| 23:14.50 | llimeht | ivanoats: have you run an "aptitude update" since editing your sources.list? |
| 23:16.05 | ivanoats | i didnt edit my sources list but its possible the company that created the sd card did. i could run that. i guess i am being super careful because i know this sd card was designed to run on an olpc |
| 23:16.18 | llimeht | ivanoats: can you also pastebin the output of: dpkg -l libc6 ; aptitude search '~o' |
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| 23:17.45 | rburn | sway, basic chroot: http://wiki.debian.org/chroot |
| 23:17.56 | rburn | afk |
| 23:17.58 | sway | rburn: thank you |
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| 23:18.20 | g00se | For the command wodim dev=/dev/hdd -scanbus can some wodimmer tell me if http://pastebin.com/f64db6b99 is normal output? |
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| 23:21.30 | valdyn | g00se: whats the point of specificing dev when youre scanning anyway? |
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| 23:22.57 | ivanoats | llimeht: http://gist.github.com/210479 thanks! |
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| 23:24.32 | g00se | valdyn: You'll have to excuse my wodim newbishness but actually without dev it failed completely |
| 23:25.10 | valdyn | g00se: theres 2 types of syntax you can use, but just use dev=/dev/whatever and burn away |
| 23:25.37 | valdyn | g00se: scanning isnt needed nor does it make sense with that |
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| 23:27.12 | azm | ho, is there some novel client in repos ? |
| 23:27.27 | llimeht | ivanoats: you have a very strange mixture of lenny, old-lenny and squeeze there. There are a *lot* of packages that require updating just to get you up to date with lenny, but then you have a few random (also out of date!) squeeze packages too |
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| 23:28.04 | ivanoats | weird.. thanks for the analysis, maybe i will check with the sd card manufacturer |
| 23:28.08 | valdyn | azm: tried "apt-cache search netware" ? |
| 23:28.13 | ivanoats | er packager |
| 23:28.30 | valdyn | ivanoats: your vendor giving you that sdcard should be shot |
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| 23:29.14 | azm | valdyn, i do not have here netware |
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| 23:29.24 | valdyn | azm: that was not my question |
| 23:29.33 | azm | .. |
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| 23:29.42 | valdyn | azm: i dont know what you want then, i guess you wanted netware client, when you said "novel" |
| 23:29.52 | azm | yea |
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| 23:30.23 | valdyn | azm: hence my question, and that was a simple yes/no question |
| 23:30.51 | azm | no. |
| 23:31.29 | valdyn | azm: then do so |
| 23:31.39 | azm | what? |
| 23:31.50 | azm | ncpfs |
| 23:31.52 | valdyn | azm: "apt-cache search netware" |
| 23:31.58 | azm | that will be the pack I need |
| 23:32.00 | valdyn | azm: thats a good find |
| 23:32.03 | azm | man I did that |
| 23:32.11 | azm | and I said |
| 23:32.13 | sway | huh. |
| 23:32.16 | azm | no results |
| 23:32.33 | valdyn | ncpfs - utilities to use resources from NetWare servers |
| 23:32.38 | valdyn | not sure how that can be not found |
| 23:32.39 | g00se | valdyn: Thanks. I probably need to come back to it tomorrow as the box isn't up now |
| 23:33.05 | azm | ok,sorry |
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| 23:33.45 | valdyn | g00se: this is some ( just in my opinion ) funny legacy from the wodim dev who thinks scsi deviecs need to be accessed by their id ( that you get listed in scanbus ) and not by device node |
| 23:34.00 | ivanoats | thanks for your help peeps. do you think i just just try to upgrade to squeeze? i guess i could always return the card or use it in my camera if i screw up |
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| 23:37.21 | g00se | valdyn: Yes it certainly looks a bit weird. I tried a readom command and it didn't like it |
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| 23:40.37 | sway | will chroot always use /temp as a home directory, or is it case sensitive? |
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| 23:51.38 | toxic | hello everyone, I have a shell-script problem : http://pastebin.com/m2100c736 On the highlighted line, it tells me the if condition isn't right.... |
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| 23:53.56 | Tramp | toxic: most probably the variable is empty. If it's bash use [[ ]]. And (at least outside this construct) always quote your variables |
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| 23:54.38 | Moral_ | I believe debian has hungup |
| 23:54.41 | Moral_ | on bootup |
| 23:54.57 | Moral_ | Installed wifi-radar yesterday turned it off now it wont bootup today... |
| 23:55.17 | Moral_ | Any ideas? |
| 23:55.36 | g00se | toxic: if [ "${ACTUAL_STATUS}" = "locked" ] is fine |
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| 23:58.11 | sigmonsays | Any tips on package building with deb somewhere? |
| 23:58.21 | g00se | Moral_: Why not start in single user mode? |
| 23:58.33 | sigmonsays | I just apt-get source'd something and wish to build a new deb w/ the new package version. |
| 23:58.37 | Moral_ | I'm a linux noob, what is single user mode? |
| 23:58.50 | llimeht | sigmonsays: /msg dpkg uupdate |
| 23:59.01 | sigmonsays | rgr |
| 23:59.34 | g00se | Moral_: A limited environment in which to boot. Should be an option at grub boottime |
| 23:59.43 | sigmonsays | llimeht, no no no, I need to build a *NEW* deb because apt's version is too old |
| 23:59.58 | Moral_ | It is an option, wasn't sure what it was. Once I bootup in that, how can I look at errors? |
