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| 00:00.52 | g00se | Moral_: You could start by running dmesg. You might like to uninstall what broke it |
| 00:00.52 | Moral_ | hmm it keeps going back to this "call trace:" |
| 00:01.09 | Moral_ | okay, I assume its wifiradar or ndiswrapper |
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| 00:04.39 | Moral_ | single user mode is hung up too |
| 00:05.44 | llimeht | sigmonsays: is the newer version already packaged for debian? (e.g. in sid, check packages.debian.org) |
| 00:06.20 | g00se | Moral_: What happens? |
| 00:06.43 | Moral_ | It was frozen on can't remember now but i'm logged in |
| 00:06.46 | Moral_ | took 5 min though |
| 00:06.54 | sigmonsays | llimeht, No it's not |
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| 00:08.20 | llimeht | sigmonsays: then uupdate is exactly what you need |
| 00:08.46 | sigmonsays | You messing with me? |
| 00:09.27 | llimeht | sigmonsays: perhaps you should look at its man page or reread what dpkg said it will do. |
| 00:10.43 | sigmonsays | appologies |
| 00:10.47 | g00se | llimeht: That looks cool. A new one on me. What sorts of things would be uupdated btw? |
| 00:10.51 | sigmonsays | llimeht, I thought uupdate was a typo |
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| 00:11.04 | llimeht | sigmonsays: no worries |
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| 00:12.07 | llimeht | g00se: it just takes a new tarball and shoves it into the debian packaging. You get to work out if the packaging needs updating/fixing/whatever yourself. It's the first step that the maintainer takes in updating a package to a new upstream version. |
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| 00:14.14 | g00se | llimeht: Ah i see. So in practice it's probably mainly used by maintainers only then.. |
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| 00:22.42 | robin_sz | ok, so which of the bazillion font packages has arialbd.ttf in it? |
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| 00:24.55 | llimeht | robin_sz: ttf-mscorefonts-installer |
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| 00:26.47 | Rezagrats | Is there a guide for setting up dual monitors in Debian |
| 00:26.49 | Rezagrats | ? |
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| 00:28.37 | adb | !xrandr |
| 00:28.39 | dpkg | i guess xrandr is a command-line interface to the <RandR> extension; used to set the screen size, orientation and/or reflection. http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 |
| 00:29.48 | j-tizzle | grandr is a great gui frontend to xrandr. |
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| 00:30.01 | j-tizzle | albeit it's not a permanent dual monitor configuration |
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| 00:34.26 | Rezagrats | Ugh... |
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| 00:51.02 | inxs | hello how do i use users in combination with uniq? i tried "uniq < `users`" and "users | uniq" ... |
| 00:51.09 | Alysum | hello does anyone use mysql-proxy 0.7.2 backport on Lenny ? |
| 00:51.18 | Alysum | it's missing some libs |
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| 00:52.41 | llimeht | inxs: something like this might work better: users | tr " " "\n" | uniq |
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| 00:52.57 | llimeht | inxs: but you probably want "sort -u" not uniq |
| 00:53.38 | pykler | i just installed lenny base then upgraded to squeeze and installed kde, two issues. 1. I am getting a ksmserver crashed in my .xsession.errors 2) for some reason I do not have the new kernel? |
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| 00:54.08 | inxs | llimeht: "users" gives me 10x my username, i dont want any duplicates ... Thnx ill try it out |
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| 00:56.07 | phobos | pykler: did you do a "safe" upgrade or did you do a full-upgrade? |
| 00:56.16 | pykler | oooo |
| 00:56.18 | pykler | i forgot |
| 00:56.27 | pykler | i just did a capital U in aptitude |
| 00:56.35 | pykler | i only had a base system though |
| 00:56.41 | phobos | pykler: one thing you can try is sudo aptitude install -f and see if it pulls anything else |
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| 00:57.13 | pykler | phobos: nothing |
| 00:57.24 | phobos | pykler: try sudo aptitude full-upgrade |
| 00:57.49 | pykler | 0 packages |
| 00:58.16 | phobos | hmmm interesting... could try removing the .xsessions file and let it generate a new one on the next restart |
| 00:58.18 | inxs | llimeht: users | tr " " "\n" | uniq |
| 00:58.22 | inxs | works |
| 00:58.23 | inxs | ty |
| 00:58.42 | pykler | phobos: i had a server install to start, so i dont think there were any |
| 00:58.51 | phobos | ah |
| 00:58.54 | pykler | and it was fresh, nothing was there before |
| 00:59.13 | pykler | i installed kde-complete i think |
| 00:59.20 | pykler | not the minimal one |
| 00:59.37 | pykler | also I ihave 2.6.26, why???? |
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| 00:59.58 | phobos | pykler: well, right now the kserver crash isn't anything new... I get that once a week, as for the kernel, you can do an aptitude search linux-image and install the latest kernel |
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| 01:02.46 | pykler | phobos: it has an "i A" at the begining of the 2.6.26 |
| 01:02.58 | pykler | but its not showin up ingrub |
| 01:03.05 | pykler | i also updated grub right away |
| 01:03.14 | pykler | i didthings too fast i guess |
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| 01:03.41 | phobos | pykler: do a uname -a and post the output, will ya? |
| 01:03.49 | pykler | sorry "i A" infront of the 2.6.30 as well |
| 01:03.59 | pykler | 2.6.26 |
| 01:04.22 | pykler | well im not on the same machine (Kde is crashin remember) :) |
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| 01:05.15 | pykler | ok if i actually try to login the machine goes crazy, if i switch to atty rigt away im good |
| 01:05.49 | phobos | pykler: so boot into recovery mode, and then do a sudo aptitude install linux-image-2.6.30-2-686 or whatever arch you have... assuming that its connected to the net... |
| 01:06.01 | pykler | phobos: its actually instlled |
| 01:06.09 | pykler | maybe i should run update-grub? |
| 01:06.16 | pykler | or do a reinstall? |
| 01:06.25 | phobos | pykler: try the update grub again |
| 01:06.32 | phobos | if that fails, then do a reinstall |
| 01:06.50 | phobos | sounds like you may have some hardware issues |
| 01:07.19 | pykler | i have a via unichrome on board, and a disabled ATI HD2400 |
| 01:07.28 | pykler | open chrome worked better under ubuntu |
| 01:07.35 | icemon | check the SMART attributes on your disk(s) |
| 01:07.48 | pykler | should they be on or off? |
| 01:07.51 | icemon | if the disk is bad you will see seek error rates and read error rates in the millions |
| 01:08.01 | icemon | or hundreds of millions |
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| 01:08.19 | pykler | i had a bad disk, that was before, now im reinstalling after that on a new disk |
| 01:08.26 | icemon | and if it's really bad you will see some reallocated sectors |
| 01:08.37 | icemon | oh, well it would be a shame if your new disk was bad too |
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| 01:08.53 | pykler | were should is ee th errors icemon |
| 01:09.00 | phobos | pykler: if you can, get the output of dmesg and post it somewhere like pastebin |
| 01:09.24 | pykler | phobos: iwill try, its hard without thegui |
| 01:09.28 | pykler | cul command ne1? |
| 01:09.32 | pykler | *curl |
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| 01:09.42 | pykler | typing on an eeepc |
| 01:09.54 | icemon | pykler: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html burn this and boot to it. you can read smart attributes with HDAT2 under Hard Disk Tools -> Diagnostics -> HDAT2 (at the bottom) |
| 01:09.59 | phobos | pykler: cd /var/log and then copy dmesg to a usb stick or whatever |
| 01:10.20 | icemon | from there, select your disk and go to the SMART menu and select read attributes |
| 01:10.42 | pykler | icemon why do u think my disk i bad |
| 01:10.54 | phobos | icemon: if hes got a brand new harddrive, I'd be inclined to rule that out... but now a bad controller chip on the other hand... |
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| 01:11.07 | icemon | yeah, given that i'ts unlikely |
| 01:11.12 | phobos | thats why I'd like to see the output of dmesg |
| 01:11.12 | icemon | maybe RAM |
| 01:11.29 | icemon | i've seen bad RAM give some pretty hairy crashes |
| 01:11.35 | pykler | phobos update grubmay have worked |
| 01:11.40 | pykler | rebbootin now |
| 01:11.42 | phobos | icemon: Its a possibility |
| 01:12.32 | pykler | icemon: u seem like u have shiny hardware all the time |
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| 01:12.39 | phobos | pykler: did it show? |
| 01:12.49 | icemon | pykler: i paid enough for it |
| 01:12.51 | pykler | in the update grub command yest |
| 01:13.07 | pykler | its not there though |
| 01:13.12 | phobos | hmmm |
| 01:13.16 | pykler | o btw, that looks like grub1 |
| 01:13.19 | tictac | bah my lenny->squeeze failed. i get scrolling "Out of Memory: kill process 2 (migration/0) score 0 and children" which locks up the box. |
| 01:13.35 | pykler | i think grub didnt ugrade correctly |
| 01:13.37 | icemon | pykler; how old is your hardware and have you run memtest? |
| 01:13.38 | phobos | pykler: did you notice if it installed the grub-pc package when doing the update? |
| 01:13.53 | phobos | upgrade* |
| 01:13.53 | pykler | they are brand new corsairs |
| 01:14.11 | pykler | yeah it did and asked me to chainload |
| 01:14.18 | pykler | i said no, thinking it will install righ away |
| 01:14.22 | pykler | ima dumbass |
| 01:14.24 | icemon | corsair has a lifetime warranty |
| 01:14.36 | pykler | they re new |
| 01:14.36 | icemon | but am i to take it that your whole rig is new? |
| 01:14.43 | pykler | nope |
| 01:14.47 | pykler | its crappy old |
| 01:14.53 | pykler | thats why the disk went out |
| 01:14.56 | icemon | ah |
| 01:15.18 | phobos | pykler: do a sudo aptitude install grub-legacy |
| 01:15.37 | phobos | let it purge grub-pc and restart... just to rule that out |
| 01:15.51 | pykler | ill reinstall grubpc wouldnt that be better? |
| 01:15.57 | pykler | or maybe dpkg-reconfigure? |
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| 01:16.10 | tictac | bah im getting tons of Out of Memory errors |
| 01:16.12 | phobos | pykler: you can try it and see... grub-pc is still beta thought |
| 01:16.20 | phobos | though* |
| 01:16.36 | icemon | tictac: do you have a swap partition configured? |
| 01:16.40 | phobos | doesn't mean it will work right on every system where as grub-legacy is tried and tested. |
| 01:16.59 | phobos | even if it is old. |
| 01:17.07 | pykler | i like the new one though |
| 01:17.24 | icemon | pykler: phobos is giving you a hand, remember? |
| 01:17.38 | tictac | icemon: yes. like 2 gig |
| 01:17.52 | phobos | pykler: install it just to rule out grub-pc as the culprit... you can always install grub-pc later |
| 01:18.23 | icemon | i have to split, again |
| 01:18.40 | phobos | It really sounds like you either have a very bad install or some severe hardware issues. I'm just trying to help you eliminate some of the possible items. |
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| 01:18.58 | pykler | phobos: i will try one last thing, reconfigure seems to have worked |
| 01:18.59 | raz1146 | If Someone using OVI Suite And Content Copier PLEASE PME ! Thanks alot . |
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| 01:19.51 | pykler | phobos: loading 2.6.30 |
| 01:19.55 | phobos | pykler: right on |
| 01:20.17 | phobos | try purging and reinstalling kde then... see if that does it... or reconfigure kdm |
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| 01:23.49 | pykler | phobos: im purging kde-standard now |
| 01:24.51 | pykler | PS karmic kubuntu beta live cd boots up fine |
| 01:25.39 | icemon | that could point to the disk or controller |
| 01:25.54 | phobos | icemon: you read my mind... |
| 01:26.47 | pykler | i stillthink its the install |
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| 01:27.09 | icemon | pykler: what if you started the install again from scratch |
| 01:27.32 | phobos | or just download the weekly testing images and do it that way |
| 01:27.48 | pykler | ill prb do that if i cant fix it |
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| 01:27.50 | icemon | or tried stable |
| 01:28.00 | pykler | im installing lxde just to see if its slightly better |
| 01:28.04 | pykler | i will install kde after |
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| 01:29.03 | Niklas- | Hey, i got an issue that isn't directly related to debian, but it's on a debian box. I got a raid1 array running, but one of the disks are failing. However when i try to mark the defective disk faulty, it just restarts syncing the array, so i cannot remove it from the array. Any ideas what causing this? |
| 01:29.17 | icemon | pykler: before you do a reinstall, download the Ultimate Bootcd i linked before and scan your hard disk for errors |
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| 01:30.00 | icemon | if you get faults, that means the problem is with your (controller or hard disk) |
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| 01:30.13 | pykler | i have an old copy of the UBCD |
| 01:30.22 | icemon | should be fine |
| 01:30.55 | icemon | my favorite disk program is HDAT2 |
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| 01:31.04 | icemon | it's better than the vendor utilities |
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| 01:32.22 | pykler | whats that? |
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| 01:32.45 | icemon | it's the last hard disk tool on the list |
| 01:32.50 | icemon | on UBCCD 4.11 |
| 01:33.15 | icemon | can't speak for earlier versions |
| 01:33.45 | icemon | anyway i'm going out, see you all later |
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| 01:44.16 | jrdave | hey.. I was wondering about a channel where I can post questions about cable modem technical details, any suggestions? |
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| 01:47.03 | sway | is there a command to display the last time a file was accessed? |
| 01:47.36 | phobos | jrdave: are you looking to uncap modems? |
| 01:48.06 | jrdave | phobos: no no |
| 01:48.35 | jrdave | phobos: I just want to know what determines the downstream frequency |
| 01:48.41 | phobos | jrdave: Might try ##hardware |
| 01:49.01 | mesa_booger | sway: stat |
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| 01:49.10 | sway | mesa_booger: thank you |
| 01:50.01 | darkblue_B | hi all - I just vnc'd to a server, but all was an empty background.. cntl-click doesnt seem to do anything.. any clues on how to proceed? its Desktop:0 I believe.. I can connect to a Desktop:2 and that is working |
| 01:50.35 | slidesinger | Is there a package that allows the management of SANs with multiple guest OS's using virtualbox or qemu? |
| 01:51.17 | pykler | if someone was looking for such uncap modems what info can he find |
| 01:51.49 | slidesinger | darkblue_B: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/x11vnc |
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| 01:57.40 | Telejeesus | Hi, n0000b here. I have OVH's server with deb(lenny).I have installed Irssi(autodownloader script)+rTorrent with my friends help. Now the rtorrent wont start at all :'( ("[screen is terminating]" error) |
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| 02:03.50 | mazzanet | is there an easy way to upgrade all packages that aren't kde related? |
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| 02:05.25 | dondelelcaro | mazzanet: if you can figure out what "aren't kde related" is, yes |
| 02:05.27 | dondelelcaro | mazzanet: the problem is that that's pretty hard to do. ;-) |
| 02:06.07 | dondelelcaro | mazzanet: you can either put a set of packages on hold, or if you're using aptitude, you can forbid them to be upgraded to a particular version, and then do your upgrade. |
| 02:06.23 | dondelelcaro | mazzanet: /msg dpkg hold; for details on the first, see the aptitude manpage for details on the second |
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| 02:09.53 | Telejeesus | n00b here, my rTorrent don't start anymore (I have try everything) |
| 02:11.11 | markybob | Telejeesus, dont use rtorrent. it sucks |
| 02:11.23 | Telejeesus | it is fastest |
| 02:11.31 | markybob | Telejeesus, no, it is not. |
| 02:11.38 | Telejeesus | yes it is :) |
| 02:11.49 | markybob | Telejeesus, deluge, which has a console interface, kick's rtorrent's ass. |
| 02:12.12 | Telejeesus | when it work I pwn everybody in ScT |
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| 02:12.51 | markybob | 'when it work'...nice. |
| 02:13.06 | tictac | hmm. im in a situation where modprobe takes over and uses all the memory. :-/ |
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| 02:13.20 | markybob | Telejeesus, use deluge. more stable, more features, more interfaces, faster |
| 02:13.54 | Telejeesus | my friend has same box from OVH (rTorrent) he is nro.1 always in ScT |
| 02:14.09 | krisfremen | i prefer rtorrent actually |
| 02:14.16 | Telejeesus | + HDBits don't allow Deluge |
| 02:14.18 | markybob | good for your friend. it's obviously not doing you any good |
| 02:14.36 | krisfremen | it's much more versatile, although it could use some modding and new features |
| 02:15.10 | markybob | krisfremen, how is rtorrent much more versatile? |
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| 02:16.08 | Telejeesus | I just ask if some one can help me (I am n00b). I get this error when trying to start rTorrent "[screen is terminating]" |
| 02:16.50 | markybob | krisfremen, also, name just *one* other client that uses rtorrent's libtorrent engine |
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| 02:18.53 | Telejeesus | I don't want to use many torrent clients (coz HDBits don't allow Deluge etc.. and rtorrent is FAST). I just want help if some one can give that to me :) |
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| 02:20.45 | dondelelcaro | Telejeesus: uh... that's almost certainly not the real error |
| 02:21.12 | Telejeesus | yep I thing so too (but I am n000b) :) |
| 02:21.19 | Telejeesus | thats only message i get |
| 02:22.45 | Telejeesus | I boot my box and try to start rtorrent with "screen -S rTorrenr rtorrent" and I ger that error mesage |
| 02:22.57 | Telejeesus | *get |
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| 02:24.47 | mazzanet | dondelelcaro: yeah i reckon i may have to let it upgrade, there's probably going to be a lot of deps as it's a 3.5->4.2 upgrade |
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| 02:27.24 | pykler | ok i was having an issue earler, someone was heling me he seems to havequit |
| 02:27.46 | pykler | fresh lenny install, upgraded to squeeze (using aptitude, sorry) |
| 02:28.15 | pykler | and installed KDE all at the same time. originally i installed lenny base (just the server ackages0) |
| 02:28.57 | pykler | the issue is, kde crashes when loading, phobos told me to removee it and reinstall, which i prtly did |
| 02:29.11 | pykler | i insttalled lxde firs, which worked well |
| 02:29.20 | pykler | i then installed kde + kdm |
| 02:29.24 | pykler | made kdm the default |
| 02:29.38 | pykler | logging into lxde works, logging into kde+openbox works |
| 02:29.47 | pykler | so it seems i have an issue with kwin |
| 02:29.59 | pykler | maybbe video related ? |
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| 02:30.31 | nsadmin | what issue? |
| 02:31.10 | pykler | nsadmin: kwin crashes i guess |
| 02:31.33 | nsadmin | which is the kde wm? |
| 02:31.37 | pykler | if i try to login to kde + kwin, oonce the loading bar finshes it crashes |
| 02:31.45 | pykler | nsadmin: yes |
| 02:31.53 | pykler | if i use obenbox it works fine |
| 02:32.20 | nsadmin | ok, does kwin come in its own package |
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| 02:32.47 | nsadmin | incidentally, anything on the bts about this? |
| 02:33.24 | pykler | whats the bts |
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| 02:33.45 | nsadmin | dpkg, tell us about bts |
| 02:33.46 | dpkg | nsadmin wants you to know: Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
| 02:33.50 | pykler | nsadmin: not sure if it comes in is own bacjage |
| 02:34.03 | pykler | also it works fine on m other systems, unless an update just went through |
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| 02:34.24 | nsadmin | judd, versions kwin |
| 02:34.25 | judd | nsadmin: kwin -- etch-security: 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6etch1 etch: 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6etch2 etch-backports: 4:3.5.7-4~bpo40+1 lenny: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6 |
| 02:34.46 | luser1 | hello, where can I find the keyring to use with debootstrap --keyring? |
| 02:34.49 | nsadmin | looks like it does, except I don't see it in testing |
| 02:35.55 | wenryd2009 | æ人å¨kde4ä¸ç¨conkyå? |
| 02:37.48 | nsadmin | pykler: your other systems are running squeeze? |
| 02:37.54 | pykler | yes |
| 02:38.02 | pykler | the one im messaging from nowis |
| 02:38.09 | pykler | andrunning kde |
| 02:38.15 | pykler | and is a tiny eeepc |
| 02:38.46 | nsadmin | !find kwin squeeze |
| 02:39.25 | pykler | im not sure what your looking for but squeeze is using kde4 |
| 02:39.36 | pykler | i also hea tthe names have changed for packages |
| 02:40.39 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'kwin squeeze' returned no results. |
| 02:41.48 | pykler | ok i ran kwin --replac and it booted me out |
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| 02:42.51 | pykler | i did have a messy upgrade experence since i used aptitude |
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| 02:43.04 | pykler | i guess I should go through evrything yet again |
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| 02:45.04 | pykler | nsadmin: i believe it is not called libkwineffects1 |
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| 02:46.07 | pykler | i get one error in the Xorg.0.log |
| 02:46.13 | pykler | dev/fb0ccannot be found |
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| 02:49.21 | nsadmin | pykler: so you tried to fire up kwin which crashed... |
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| 02:50.42 | nsadmin | ok, so collect all this info, and be detailed about what you observe about the crash, include what you just stated about kwin -replace, put all that into a file |
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| 02:51.42 | nsadmin | oh, did you read the squeeze release notes before upgrading the lenny base? |
| 02:52.08 | nsadmin | that doc should have upgrade steps |
| 02:52.54 | whj | hipodilski, where can I found latest doc/changes about xorg? seems like now (debian/testing) X module "nv" support 3d? |
| 02:53.18 | whj | I mean "hi", not "hiposdilski" |
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| 02:54.10 | pykler | nsadmin is there alink? |
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| 02:54.21 | whj | glxinfo |grep direct return: direct rendering: Yes |
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| 02:55.26 | nsadmin | yes but I don't have it handy at this exact moment |
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| 02:56.39 | nsadmin | I'm guessing kwin is either misconfigured, installed incorrectly (by dpkg/apt. not your fault necessarily( |
| 02:57.02 | nsadmin | there might be a #debian-kde here or on oftc |
| 02:57.43 | nsadmin | definitely, you ought to retry the install from the start, reading squeeze release notes |
| 02:58.02 | nsadmin | that might do it, but I can't be sure |
| 02:58.34 | dbbolton | is it possible to install gcc 4.3.3 on unstable? |
| 02:59.13 | nsadmin | it's possible to build the package of it, if nothing else is available |
| 02:59.29 | dbbolton | well i need my debian machine to run as a distcc host |
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| 03:00.22 | nsadmin | why running unstable? |
| 03:00.49 | dbbolton | i had trouble with radeon in testing and stable |
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| 03:02.16 | nsadmin | can you have a different machine or can you xen and make a vserver? |
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| 03:05.45 | luser1 | dpkg, keyring |
| 03:05.45 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, keyring is a circular ring of metal for holding keys... in the context of debian, the public gpg keys. |
| 03:06.55 | luser1 | I downloaded the keyring with this command "rsync -az --progress keyring.debian.org::keyrings/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg ./debian-keyring.gpg" but it still fails with debootstrap --keyring=debian-keyring.gpg ?? |
| 03:08.08 | luser1 | i'm doing something wrong perhaps? |
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| 03:10.49 | dbbolton | 'apt-cache policy gcc' tells me 4.3.3 but 'gcc -v' tells me 4.3.4 so which is right? |
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| 03:15.42 | initq | i got it working |
| 03:15.45 | initq | hurray |
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| 03:25.27 | Gun_Smoke | I'm trying to locate the thread which I believe was started on debian-user a couple months back. The discussion was about rm ~ 1 million files from a errant cron job. Anyone remember that? |
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| 03:27.38 | luser1 | rm ~ million files? |
| 03:28.13 | Gun_Smoke | yep. |
| 03:28.31 | Gun_Smoke | removing about 1 million files |
| 03:29.03 | luser1 | rooted? |
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| 03:30.56 | kzar | If I ssh to a box, is there a way to switch to / grab tty0? I started running something at the console and I want to check it's progress remotely |
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| 03:33.05 | optraz | hi, i have a radius server and radius client setup and they have the link together. is it possible to copy file between them using radius protocol/some other ways? |
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| 03:36.48 | joeytwiddle | kzar: in future, use 'screen' |
| 03:38.54 | kzar | Yea I use screen sometimes, I didn't plan this one because my VM kind of freaked out importing this massive database.. I can ssh in but I've lost tty0. Top shows that mysql is doing something so I guess I'll just leave it for a few hours |
| 03:40.22 | joeytwiddle | i have managed to send text to other ttys before, but i know no way of reading them :\ |
| 03:41.27 | joeytwiddle | echo to /dev/ptsNN that is |
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| 03:45.38 | optraz | hi, i have a radius server and radius client setup and they have the link together. is it possible to copy file between them using radius protocol/some other ways? |
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| 03:57.03 | kzar | joeytwiddle: watch seemed to be the right command although I couldn't get it working. There was another program called ttysnoop that could have worked if I set it up beforehand. Anyway whilst searching about that my mysql import finished so it doesn't matter heh |
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| 03:58.36 | joeytwiddle | hehe nice :) |
| 03:59.08 | joeytwiddle | i have used one program called watch, but all it does is run the same command every few seconds, and display the output |
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| 04:27.57 | gnarface | ok so i'm looking for a replacement for grip |
| 04:28.05 | gnarface | anyone make a good recommendation? |
| 04:28.40 | optraz | how do i specify scp authentication using radius? |
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| 04:44.02 | bugger | or can play files gapless? |
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| 05:21.25 | sauvin | My primary laptop is running 32-bit Debian Lenny, latest updates as of last night, I believe. I can't get it to boot; it bombs after a couple of minutes with a Splashy timeout error (waiting for a message on the Splashy socket). Any help? |
| 05:21.49 | mee | anyone using the Tahoma font in debian? I've got my .ttf file in ~/fonts, it shows up in font listing, but renders as garbage (blocks) |
| 05:24.07 | ekontsevoy | On this box I'm on, when I press ctrl+alt+f2 I get into a fancy screen session instead of a plain terminal. Where is this configured? I checked .bashrc and it's clean. |
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| 05:27.10 | sauvin | never mind, I found how to edit an entry in grub; I told it not to use splash while booting. When the boot process is complete, I intend to disable Splashy entirely. |
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| 05:30.52 | mee | tries changing his default locale |
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| 05:33.05 | a-s | I came back |
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| 05:33.29 | a-s | At home I played the .flv files downloaded from youtube with xine |
| 05:33.37 | a-s | at home I use debian lenny |
| 05:34.06 | a-s | the info from xine said me that it is about the h264 codec |
| 05:34.19 | a-s | the image was perfect |
| 05:34.34 | a-s | but the sound... just noise. |
| 05:34.47 | a-s | it's about these videos: |
| 05:35.02 | gnarface | anyone know of a good replacement for grip? |
| 05:35.38 | a-s | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5hZoJ6uK-s&hl=fr |
| 05:35.52 | a-s | in mozilla I can play them perfectly |
| 05:36.05 | a-s | (directly from the web) |
| 05:36.14 | a-s | but from saved file, just noise. |
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| 05:39.45 | tictac | wonders why the wordpress package doesnt have any type of automated setup |
| 05:40.43 | a-s | on ubuntu in mozilla I hear them perfectly |
| 05:42.05 | a-s | i'm trying now to use keepvid.com , to see whether it works |
| 05:42.22 | Bocaneri | wants to know why all of a sudden Splashy is being a problem in debian lenny |
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| 05:48.40 | a-s | very strange |
| 05:48.57 | a-s | when I downloaded the videos using keepvid.com, it can be played |
| 05:49.22 | a-s | but when I downloaded it using wget, it cannot |
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| 05:50.32 | a-s | when I downloaded them using keepvid, there is no sound at all! |
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| 05:55.47 | a-s | however, xine shows me in info window that audio mpeg layer 3 is present! |
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| 05:59.47 | a-s | maybe the audio is not acive before download finishes |
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| 06:00.43 | a-s | i use avidemux2_gtk |
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| 06:02.48 | tuv | is there a system tray that supports square areas, or multiline arrangment of icons? |
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| 06:12.53 | k[t | someone name a cool browser to use... |
| 06:13.18 | k[t | preferably, non gnome/kde related |
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| 06:17.09 | a-s | k[t: yes, firefox |
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| 06:18.59 | gnarface | AAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGH |
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| 06:19.39 | gnarface | anyone use jack? not ALSA jack, this jack: http://www.home.unix-ag.org/arne/jack/ |
| 06:19.52 | gnarface | i need to figure out how to pass command-line options to the encoders |
| 06:20.05 | gnarface | or find a program with equivalent functionality to this that does (like grip) |
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| 06:22.34 | sway | if i want to install grub using a chroot, is /boot the only directory that needs to be bound to the chroot? |
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| 06:23.57 | McL0VIN | good day folks |
| 06:24.05 | ascii158 | hey |
| 06:24.14 | ascii158 | sway: i think you need /dev, too |
| 06:24.16 | McL0VIN | anyone here used lynx before to access linksys page |
| 06:24.23 | a-s | gnarface: have you seen avidemux? |
| 06:24.25 | ascii158 | and possibly /proc |
| 06:24.26 | McL0VIN | config page |
| 06:24.35 | sway | ascii158: thank you |
| 06:24.37 | McL0VIN | ascii158: dude you ever sleep |
| 06:24.47 | McL0VIN | lol |
| 06:24.59 | ascii158 | why should I? |
| 06:25.04 | ascii158 | :-) |
| 06:25.08 | McL0VIN | ;) |
| 06:25.10 | ascii158 | In fact I just got up |
| 06:25.18 | ascii158 | and am thinking about breakfast |
| 06:25.22 | McL0VIN | me to i just started my night shift |
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| 06:25.49 | ascii158 | i'm at GMT+1, so its halfpast 8 in the morning here |
| 06:26.11 | McL0VIN | ascii158: did you ever used lynx to access linksys config page |
| 06:26.15 | ascii158 | nope |
| 06:26.25 | ascii158 | I usuallt use (e)links |
| 06:26.42 | ascii158 | but i never owned a linksys |
| 06:26.46 | McL0VIN | i am trying to change port redirection and i can't and that box it 14 miles |
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| 06:27.05 | McL0VIN | i just don't know how to accept it |
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| 06:27.22 | ascii158 | how about ssh-portforwarding and using your own browser? |
| 06:27.36 | McL0VIN | how |
| 06:27.40 | gnarface | McL0VIN: lol don't do that it requires javascript |
| 06:27.48 | gnarface | a-s: negative looking now |
| 06:28.06 | ascii158 | now you use "ssh McLOVIN@home.dyndns"? |
| 06:28.14 | ascii158 | and then start lynx? |
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| 06:28.47 | McL0VIN | ascii158: wait wait , this need a cig |
| 06:28.48 | McL0VIN | brb |
| 06:29.08 | gnarface | a-s: this looks like way overkill |
| 06:29.12 | gnarface | but does it do what i need? |
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| 06:30.07 | ascii158 | McL0VIN: in case I am afk when you are back: ssh -L 8080:linksys:80 McLOVIN@home.dyndns |
| 06:30.59 | ascii158 | that tells ssh, that when you connect to port 8080 on your laptop (or whatever you are sitting on) the connection is tunneled to your home.dyndns-box, which opens a connection to linksys:80 |
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| 06:36.56 | McL0VIN | ascii158: am back |
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| 06:39.18 | McL0VIN | i am trying to telnet to my cisco sw which is wired to my linksys . am at my work and i am ssh to my Debian box which is also wired to my linksys |
| 06:43.50 | gnarface | asunder == weak |
| 06:43.54 | gnarface | jack == weak |
| 06:44.00 | gnarface | grip == missing in action |
| 06:44.10 | gnarface | == angry |
| 06:44.21 | gnarface | McL0VIN: what's keeping you from doing that now? |
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| 06:45.57 | McL0VIN | gnarface: i am able to get to my linksys WRT54GS page from my Debian box using lynx, but i can't find where to accept changes |
| 06:45.59 | McL0VIN | :) |
| 06:46.05 | McL0VIN | it is all text base |
| 06:46.23 | gnarface | McL0VIN: your linksys config page requires javascript. lynx *WILL NOT* work |
| 06:46.33 | gnarface | trust me, how i have tried |
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| 06:46.54 | McL0VIN | gnarface: so what shall i do |
| 06:46.57 | ascii158 | so you do not have ssh atm? |
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| 06:47.29 | gnarface | if you have X installed on that debian box and on the machine you're sshing to it from and the ssh clients are up to date enough you can just run a browser and have it forward the X connection over the ssh tunnel automatically |
| 06:47.31 | McL0VIN | ascii158: what is that? |
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| 06:48.25 | icemon | or, even better, forward the HTTP connection over the ssh tunnel automatically |
| 06:48.43 | McL0VIN | gnarface: at work i use exceed to XDMCP to solaris box which is 1 feet away from me |
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| 06:49.16 | gnarface | McL0VIN: icemon's suggestion is probably easiest |
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| 06:49.33 | McL0VIN | icemon: am all ears |
| 06:49.41 | McL0VIN | but i don't know how to do it |
| 06:49.46 | icemon | of course i don't know how to do it |
| 06:49.50 | icemon | you'll have to read a manual |
| 06:50.40 | gnarface | McL0VIN: you're ssh'd to the debian box now you said? |
| 06:50.51 | McL0VIN | gnarface: yes |
| 06:52.23 | McL0VIN | all this to change 192.168.1.101 to 192.168.1.102 :) |
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| 06:52.49 | gnarface | did you learn your lesson about buying cheap consumer-grade routers yet? |
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| 06:53.12 | McL0VIN | lol i guess yes |
| 06:53.24 | gnarface | good |
| 06:53.26 | omgwtfbbqhax | oh boy |
| 06:53.27 | omgwtfbbqhax | here we go |
| 06:53.34 | omgwtfbbqhax | whats so bad about consumer grade |
| 06:53.49 | gnarface | omgwtfbbqhax: linksys's config panels require *javascript* |
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| 06:53.56 | gnarface | ffs |
| 06:54.11 | omgwtfbbqhax | youre against javascript? |
| 06:54.12 | hounddog | gnarface this server is so shit.... |
| 06:54.25 | hounddog | gnarface remember me not finding apache settings? |
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| 06:55.16 | gnarface | omgwtfbbqhax: no not principly. i write quite a lot of javascript in fact. i'm oppoed to javascript on mission-critical systems where its absolutely unecessary and in fact detrimental for basic functionality, like when you try to use lynx to reconfigure your linksys router and find out that the stupid "save" button requires javascript |
| 06:55.27 | vaq2 | How do I extend an existing software RAID1 with another disk? |
| 06:55.46 | ascii158 | mdadm --manage /dev/mdX --add /dev/whatever |
| 06:55.47 | gnarface | hounddog: hah did they put cpanel on that thing? |
| 06:56.05 | hounddog | gnarface forget about cpanel |
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| 06:56.14 | vaq2 | ascii158: Wount't that not just add it as a spare? |
| 06:56.20 | ascii158 | no idea |
| 06:56.38 | hounddog | they have php 4 and 5 installed, i do not have any root access to use php 5 i need to create a htaccess with some settings |
| 06:56.41 | ascii158 | you weren't specific :-) |
| 06:56.47 | gnarface | McL0VIN: the ssh manpage is pretty clear on the syntax but bad on explaining what you're doing. i recommend googling for a good tutorial on port forwarding with openssh |
| 06:56.53 | hounddog | databases are limited to 100 |
| 06:56.58 | vaq2 | ascii158: Sorry |
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| 06:57.01 | ascii158 | :-) |
| 06:57.10 | omgwtfbbqhax | tunneling is so simple man read the docs they're pretty straightforward |
| 06:57.25 | hounddog | to say it straight, this server is bullshit |
| 06:57.32 | McL0VIN | omgwtfbbqhax: link |
| 06:57.35 | McL0VIN | please |
| 06:57.40 | omgwtfbbqhax | lol |
| 06:57.41 | omgwtfbbqhax | seriously? |
| 06:58.01 | vaq2 | ascii158: I did add it as a spare |
| 06:58.02 | omgwtfbbqhax | man sshd |
| 06:58.04 | vaq2 | It* |
| 06:58.15 | gnarface | McL0VIN: "man ssh" |
| 06:58.16 | icemon | www.lmtgfy.com/?q=ssh+tunnel |
| 06:58.21 | omgwtfbbqhax | or that |
| 06:58.41 | icemon | www.lmgtfy.com/?q=ssh+tunnel |
| 06:58.46 | icemon | that one actually works... |
| 06:58.54 | McL0VIN | i will just google it thanx icemon i don't want you to google it for me |
| 06:58.54 | McL0VIN | :) |
| 06:59.05 | ascii158 | i looked at the mdadm-manpage and on first glance it seems, that you can not add a third drive to a RAID1 |
| 06:59.08 | gnarface | hounddog: ouch. that sucks. know who i'd recommend for dedicated servers? pair.com or serverbeach.com - but don't get tricked by any of that "dedicated virtual" stuff make sure you get ssh access and a root password before you sign up |
| 06:59.26 | McL0VIN | i was just looking for the right phrase |
| 06:59.29 | McL0VIN | lol |
| 06:59.47 | vaq2 | How do I extend an existing software RAID1 with another disk? - "mdadm /dev/md0 -a /dev/hdc1" is just adding the disk as a spare. |
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| 07:00.05 | hounddog | gnarface 1and1 is actually a big company in germany... but this is as good as some normal webhosting... |
| 07:00.06 | gnarface | icemon: LOL |
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| 07:00.16 | disaster3 | lut all |
| 07:00.19 | ascii158 | vaq2: you want three-way-redundancy? |
| 07:00.22 | ethanol | good morning folks |
| 07:00.25 | hounddog | don/t even know if i can put things like mod_deflate etc |
| 07:00.28 | disaster3 | sa roule ? |
| 07:00.58 | disaster3 | pour compiler un noyau après le make menuconfig fo juste faire un make bzImage ? |
| 07:01.01 | vaq2 | ascii158: The raid consists of 2 disk already, one active one spare, I want to add the third as available space. |
| 07:01.36 | Hideo | McL0VIN: didn't ascii158 pretty much give you the solution half an hour ago? |
| 07:01.51 | ascii158 | vaq2: that is not possible with raid1 |
| 07:02.00 | ascii158 | you would have to switch to raid5 |
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| 07:02.12 | McL0VIN | Hideo: i am already ssh'd to the box |
| 07:02.26 | ascii158 | which is, as far as I know, impossible without deleting and restoring the data |
| 07:02.27 | Hideo | then create another ssh connection ... |
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| 07:03.13 | McL0VIN | Hideo: to where |
| 07:04.11 | Hideo | -_- what ascii158 suggested, which btw is the same thing gnarface and icemon suggested |
| 07:04.34 | Hideo | I'm pretty damn sure a Debian box can accept more than 1 ssh connection |
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| 07:05.47 | hipodilski | hi guys I have currently configured a hardware raid on one of my servers, I wonder under debian when I build the partition on the hard drive is it necessery to build it as a Linux raid autodetect partition? |
| 07:05.49 | McL0VIN | Hideo: and i am damn sure you are missing what i am trying to do |
| 07:05.53 | hipodilski | I guess this is not necessery ? |
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| 07:06.41 | Hideo | alright whatever, if I am, then so did the others who have suggested help here, and you're going on a wild goose chase, try elaborate more then |
| 07:07.00 | McL0VIN | http://pastebin.ca/1621591 |
| 07:07.01 | gnarface | hipodilski: if it is *actually* hardware raid it should be transparent to the operating system, however it should be noted that many hardware vendors *cough* intel *cough* are notorious for selling "hardware raid" controllers that actually require a windows driver to do the "RAID" part |
| 07:07.20 | McL0VIN | ascii158: gnarface : can you help me with this |
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| 07:08.19 | omgwtfbbqhax | i think a solution was already presented with 'man ssh' |
| 07:09.15 | McL0VIN | http://pastebin.ca/1621597 |
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| 07:09.56 | hipodilski | gnarface: in my case it's ibm server so and hardware raid is configured via ibm's soft |
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| 07:10.16 | showy | hi, where I should ask a question related to bind9 ? |
| 07:10.41 | gnarface | hipodilski: if you can configure your drives and stripes on the raid array and such at bios-level (before any operating system is booted) and you have done that you should be fine |
| 07:11.05 | gnarface | McL0VIN: don't startx |
| 07:11.30 | omgwtfbbqhax | why are you trying to remotely startx |
| 07:11.55 | McL0VIN | omgwtfbbqhax: so i can pull a session in my exceed |
| 07:12.16 | omgwtfbbqhax | pull a session in your exceed? |
| 07:12.21 | omgwtfbbqhax | someone care to translate? |
| 07:12.43 | McL0VIN | exceed, hummingbird |
| 07:12.49 | McL0VIN | xsession |
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| 07:13.18 | omgwtfbbqhax | pull a session... bleh this is moot |
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| 07:14.12 | omgwtfbbqhax | im going to sleep... McL0VIN: i think you need to figure out what the hell youre trying to do first before you attempt to figure out a solution |
| 07:14.52 | McL0VIN | omgwtfbbqhax: swe[hell]et dreams |
| 07:14.57 | McL0VIN | :) |
| 07:15.15 | gnarface | McL0VIN: what everyone is trying to tell you here is that if you don't read the man page you're likely to hurt yourself |
| 07:15.18 | gnarface | perhaps... fatally |
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| 07:16.20 | hounddog | gnarface i think i found the problem ... |
| 07:16.41 | McL0VIN | gnarface: ah fuck it i will wait till morning and just do it from the router |
| 07:16.45 | kronic | anyone know of a dns query filter/proxy. eg hosts from a particular network can only view particular resolves |
| 07:16.51 | McL0VIN | this is too much headk |
| 07:16.54 | hounddog | gnarface they have 3 operating systems... linux/windows and some full managed system |
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| 07:17.17 | gnarface | hounddog: what sharing the same filesystem or what? |
| 07:17.19 | hounddog | currently the full managed system is installed which has these restrictions |
| 07:17.24 | hounddog | gnarface http://www.1und1.info/xml/order/ServerPremiumDualCoreXL;jsessionid=DD46E50E5721BCB1810AB7995FA1283F.TC33b?__frame=_top&__lf=Static&ordernow=true&linkType=&linkOrigin=ServerPremium |
| 07:17.30 | Hideo | heh |
| 07:17.32 | hounddog | just look, then you see what i mean |
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| 07:17.45 | hounddog | i can change the operating system |
| 07:17.54 | showy | kronic: can't you specify differenst DNS servers for differents subnets via dhcp ? |
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| 07:18.47 | hounddog | just have to find out how and where |
| 07:18.53 | gnarface | weird |
| 07:19.01 | Supaplex | why not just make the network routeable to the dns servers? No need to make different dns servers for every segment. |
| 07:19.01 | hounddog | nah not weird |
| 07:19.10 | hounddog | i remember this with 1 and 1 server |
| 07:19.10 | kronic | that's not what I'm asking about sorry, eg. I have an internal dns server, instead of creating a dns server in the dmz, and doubling overhead, I'd like to filter queries so the dmz hosts can only view resolves for that subnet |
| 07:19.11 | gnarface | you're really spending 50 euros for that? |
| 07:19.20 | gnarface | that's what, 120USD? |
| 07:19.27 | hounddog | gnarface it is ok, if i change the operating system i have full access |
| 07:19.44 | hounddog | currently it is running the 1and1 manged server |
| 07:19.50 | hounddog | "managed" |
| 07:20.16 | hounddog | and server can be linux - centos, debian etc |
| 07:20.30 | showy | can't u achieve that using views with bind / |
| 07:20.31 | showy | ? |
| 07:20.51 | hounddog | gnarface think it is about 90USD |
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| 07:21.14 | gnarface | kronic: yea this is a bind9 feature now, read up on the config syntax you don't need to confuse your router for this feature |
| 07:21.33 | ethanol | I'm just curious, does cron or root mail out cronjob results/outcome? cause we have this machine running as nowcast.nl, and only just yesterday did I setup a mail address @nowcast.nl -- and this morning I got two emails from root@nowcast.nl regarding cronjobs (one was just some text echo'd, the other was a parse error in a php script) |
| 07:21.37 | kronic | alright, cheers |
| 07:21.40 | zwamkat | 50 Euro = aprox $75 USD at current rate... |
| 07:21.57 | gnarface | hounddog: 100mbps no transfer limit? |
| 07:22.25 | hounddog | yeah |
| 07:22.41 | gnarface | ethanol: both. cron runs as root. be careful with it |
| 07:22.51 | gnarface | hounddog: that's actually a sick deal on bandwidth if they really let you saturate it |
| 07:22.55 | ethanol | where is this email behavior specified/setup ? |
| 07:22.56 | bhundven | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=50+eur+in+usd&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g1 |
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| 07:23.25 | gnarface | ethanol: the default behavior of cron is that it mails you anything the scripts output to stdout. |
| 07:23.35 | gnarface | if you want to change that i recommend making quieter scripts |
| 07:23.39 | hounddog | gnarface thats why i took it, but i thought this is a screwed server lol... should look at all the details |
| 07:24.23 | ethanol | gnarface: no this is actually quite nice. I just never experienced this before. possibly because our machines were never setup to resemble the domain they hosted (usually they hosted dozens, so they had a generic name like www01) |
| 07:24.41 | bhundven | gnarface: have you tried sound-juicer or ripperx rather then grip? |
| 07:25.11 | gnarface | ethanol: you can change who gets the mail with most cron implementations using the MAILTO="" flag . check: man 5 crontab for all the syntax details |
| 07:25.20 | ethanol | ok, thanks |
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| 07:26.35 | ethanol | gnarface: mailto only requires a username though (or at least in the man example). can you also specify a specific email address? |
| 07:26.47 | gnarface | gnarface: never. the problem i'm having with all the non-grip implementations i've tried so far (like jack and asunder) is that i don't have direct control over the encoder command-line. it will happily pass vbr settings through to any of 3 or 4 different audio encoders, but say i want to use lame and have this as my command line: --nspsytune --vbr-new --lowpass 19.5 --ns-sfb21 2 -Z --scale 0.98 -X0 -mj -q0 -V0 -b128 -B320 . |
| 07:26.47 | gnarface | .. no joy except for grip, that i've seen |
| 07:26.52 | mudsplatter | can any one help with multi display? |
| 07:27.03 | gnarface | woops bhundven ^^^ i just messaged myself but that was to you |
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| 07:28.36 | gnarface | ethanol: not sure but i think you may have to set up a .forward (or the equivalent for your existing mail system) for the receiving user |
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| 07:29.22 | gnarface | mudsplatter: for Nvidia video cards with the binary driver search the README that comes with the driver for "TwinView" for all other cards google "xinerama" |
| 07:29.31 | mudsplatter | i have intel |
| 07:29.39 | gnarface | xinerama for you then |
| 07:29.39 | mudsplatter | it works |
| 07:29.47 | mudsplatter | but i lose my display |
| 07:29.58 | mudsplatter | on my laptop |
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| 07:30.17 | gnarface | ethanol: i've never honestly tried to send cron script output off-system. scary!! |
| 07:30.17 | jelly-home | mudsplatter: "lose"? |
| 07:30.21 | mudsplatter | ya |
| 07:30.29 | jelly-home | explain. |
| 07:30.32 | mudsplatter | the plug in display works |
| 07:30.35 | mudsplatter | but not my laptop |
| 07:30.46 | jelly-home | mudsplatter: what does "xrandr" say? |
| 07:30.49 | ethanol | gnarface: hardly scary to me. if I had discovered this sooner I would have made more frequent use of it |
| 07:31.04 | mudsplatter | extra |
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| 07:31.12 | jelly-home | mudsplatter: I mean, pastebin the whole output. |
| 07:31.24 | mudsplatter | ooo |
| 07:31.27 | mudsplatter | xrandr |
| 07:31.28 | mudsplatter | rofl |
| 07:31.29 | mudsplatter | ok |
| 07:31.32 | mudsplatter | i spell so bad |
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| 07:32.07 | gnarface | ethanol: i think with your average sendmail or exim setup you want to add a system user (the admin or someone not root) to /etc/aliases to get all of root's mail, leave cron mail sent to root, then take that admin user and add a .forward in their home directory containing the email address you use to monitor the system |
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| 07:32.24 | mudsplatter | gnarface, is xinerama a apt? |
| 07:32.30 | gnarface | ethanol: don't just try that blindly. it's been a while for me so double check |
| 07:32.48 | mudsplatter | i dont see it |
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| 07:32.58 | bhundven | mudsplatter: no, read 'man xorg.conf' |
| 07:33.06 | mudsplatter | rofl |
| 07:33.07 | mudsplatter | i have |
| 07:33.10 | gnarface | it is a built-in feature of xorg, mudsplatter |
| 07:33.21 | ethanol | gnarface: ok, will look into that. thanks :) |
| 07:33.22 | mudsplatter | im not explaining it right |
| 07:33.30 | gnarface | mudsplatter: do elaborate |
| 07:33.41 | gnarface | ethanol: no prob. |
| 07:33.43 | mudsplatter | i tried to mod the x |
| 07:33.50 | mudsplatter | with no succsess |
| 07:33.50 | gnarface | woah |
| 07:33.52 | gnarface | mod the x? |
| 07:33.56 | gnarface | that sounds kinky |
| 07:34.01 | mudsplatter | bow chika bow bow |
| 07:34.03 | gnarface | what do you mean by that precisely? |
| 07:34.10 | jelly-home | gnarface: xinerama is obsolete with advent of randr 1.2 |
| 07:34.31 | jelly-home | if he can, best to use xrandr. |
| 07:34.46 | gnarface | jelly-home: thanks for the info. i've been using TwinView for years now so I didn't notice. maybe you can figure out what he's having trouble with? i still don't quite understand the issue |
| 07:34.52 | mudsplatter | ok |
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| 07:34.55 | mudsplatter | i seexrandr |
| 07:34.57 | mudsplatter | see |
| 07:35.17 | mudsplatter | ill mess with this |
| 07:35.30 | jelly-home | !dual monitors |
| 07:35.31 | dpkg | For a wide desktop over multiple monitors ("xinerama"), you can either configure your layout in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or, from lenny onwards, with xrandr. See http://www.jejik.com/articles/2008/10/setting_up_dual_monitors_system-wide_with_xrandr_on_debian_lenny/, http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12, http://thinkwiki.org/Xorg_RandR_1.2. Or ask me about <dual monitors etch> and <xrandr>. |
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| 07:35.40 | gnarface | didn't know xinerama was obsolete already. |
| 07:35.43 | gnarface | feels shame |
| 07:36.00 | mudsplatter | ya tried to xorg.conf and i messed up bad.... |
| 07:36.08 | mudsplatter | thank god i had a copy....... |
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| 07:36.42 | gnarface | yes *always* back up the xorg.conf |
| 07:36.46 | mudsplatter | ya |
| 07:37.08 | mudsplatter | i was looking for a apt |
| 07:37.16 | mudsplatter | that was the miss |
| 07:37.26 | simonrvn | *cough* etckeeper *cough* |
| 07:37.39 | mudsplatter | xrandr is fine |
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| 07:38.05 | jelly-home | mudsplatter: one thing it's not, a permanent setting |
| 07:38.19 | gnarface | simonrvn: ? tar czvpf ~/configs.tar.gz /etc |
| 07:38.27 | ethanol | stupid question. how can I find out which mail system my machine is using/running? |
| 07:38.29 | mudsplatter | jelly-home, i know |
| 07:38.35 | ethanol | guesses it is Sendmail, but not sure |
| 07:38.37 | mudsplatter | i dont want it to be |
| 07:38.40 | n0on3 | how can i read an hexdump of a range of memory allocated for some process ? I know that /proc/<pid>/maps gives me the allocated ranges, but i think they're virtual memory address since they point to locations out of my phisical memory dimension ... what i'm actually looking for is a way to translate that addresses is the addresses of the pages in the phisical memory so i can dd if=/dev/kcore them and read them ... how can i do that ? ( link |
| 07:38.40 | n0on3 | s to references would also be really appreciated :D ) |
| 07:38.44 | jelly-home | mudsplatter: all right then |
| 07:38.49 | gnarface | ethanol: its exim4 if you're using any relatively recent debian |
| 07:39.00 | simonrvn | judd: info etckeeper |
| 07:39.00 | judd | simonrvn: etckeeper (admin): is optional; Version: 0.21; Size: 20.4k; Installed: 292k -- store /etc in git, mercurial, or bzr |
| 07:39.07 | jelly-home | ethanol: telnet localhost 25, see how it greets you |
| 07:39.12 | simonrvn | gnarface: ^^^ |
| 07:39.14 | ethanol | gnarface: lenny, yes. but not sure if I installed exim (did a very minimal net-install) |
| 07:39.19 | mudsplatter | any idea on when squeeze is coming out |
| 07:39.21 | ethanol | jelly: ah ok, thanks |
| 07:39.34 | simonrvn | mudsplatter: WIR |
| 07:39.36 | ethanol | exim indeed |
| 07:39.52 | gnarface | ethanol: there is an exim-heavy and an exim-light or something like that, |
| 07:39.56 | gnarface | you get the light version by default |
| 07:40.00 | bhundven | !squeeze |
| 07:40.01 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the next release, Debian GNU/Linux 6.0. It is the three-eyed space alien. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/09/msg00000.html Ask me about <testing>. Not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze. Expected to be released in early 2010, see http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090729 |
| 07:40.15 | mudsplatter | early 2010 |
| 07:40.17 | mudsplatter | thanks |
| 07:40.19 | jelly-home | mudsplatter: lies. |
| 07:40.25 | bhundven | heh |
| 07:40.31 | mudsplatter | i do lie alot..... |
| 07:40.39 | jelly-home | so the the bot |
| 07:40.43 | mudsplatter | rofl |
| 07:40.48 | simonrvn | exim-daemon-{heavy,light} |
| 07:40.53 | jelly-home | does* the bot, but not intenionally |
| 07:40.55 | mudsplatter | its odd that i come for help |
| 07:40.57 | mudsplatter | and not troll |
| 07:40.58 | gnarface | ethanol: exim does contain some basic command-line compatibility to sendmail so you won't lose the ability to call /usr/sbin/sendmail the same way you did from scripts |
| 07:41.02 | ethanol | gnarface: http://www.tin.org/bin/man.cgi?section=5&topic=etc-aliases I found this, but the description of /etc/aliases is very vague |
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| 07:41.41 | ethanol | gnarface: is it just, "root: otheruser" ? |
| 07:42.00 | gnarface | ethanol: yep. |
| 07:42.04 | ethanol | or should it be, "root: address1[, address2, and so on]" |
| 07:42.12 | gnarface | one pair per line i think |
| 07:42.22 | gnarface | not sure, never tried anything fancier than that |
| 07:42.33 | ethanol | oh |
| 07:42.42 | ethanol | I'm already setup as an alias for root |
| 07:42.45 | jelly-home | ethanol: the lines you've written aren't incompatible. |
| 07:42.49 | ethanol | must be debian default cause I am admin user |
| 07:42.58 | jill | hi all |
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| 07:43.03 | ethanol | that explains why I got the emails then |
| 07:43.16 | gnarface | ethanol: if i recall there is an installer question that prompts you for that, yes. its considered insecure to actually read the mail as root itself |
| 07:43.36 | jelly-home | ethanol: "localuser" is just a special case of "address" |
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| 07:43.58 | ethanol | I see. this is interesting |
| 07:44.13 | gnarface | jelly-home: even in /etc/aliases? |
| 07:44.24 | ethanol | so if I setup a machine with a domain that resembles an existing domain, it actually sends emails to that domain? |
| 07:44.28 | jelly-home | gnarface: sure, but rtfm aliases(5) |
| 07:44.41 | gnarface | jehan: i don't have one |
| 07:44.46 | gnarface | jelly-home: i don't have one :( |
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| 07:45.12 | ethanol | so if I setup my machine as 'google.com', it would by default start sending emails to root@google.com ? o_O |
| 07:45.22 | simonrvn | i thought there might be one too, but i don't seem to have one anywhere |
| 07:45.32 | jelly-home | ethanol: no. It would receive mail for google.com locally. |
| 07:45.53 | gnarface | ethanol: no, exim4 delivers to local users *first* then looks remotely |
| 07:45.55 | ethanol | weird, cause I actually receive my emails on my @domain account |
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| 07:46.11 | gnarface | ethanol: do you have a .forward file in your home directory? |
| 07:46.15 | ethanol | gnarface: ok, but my local user never had mail (but that's sendmail I guess?) |
| 07:46.47 | ethanol | nope, no .forward |
| 07:47.13 | gnarface | well with either sendmail or exim4 there are a number of places in the system that can have various effects on mail delivery ultimately |
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| 07:47.35 | simonrvn | checks on his |
| 07:47.40 | ethanol | clearly yes. I should read into this more in my spare time. never really have. |
| 07:48.07 | ethanol | on a side note, first thing I did when you mentioned /etc/aliases was also try to open the man page, but could not on my system. so I googled it |
| 07:48.41 | gnarface | ethanol: best choice really is to keep it close to defaults so it doesn't get confusing. if all root's mail is already being forwarded to your shell user just .forward that shell user's mail to a safe mailbox you read regularly |
| 07:48.45 | simonrvn | new git in unstable has the git-core now. might want to take it off hold. |
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| 07:49.19 | ethanol | gnarface: well, seems the defaults also already send it to my external account. without a .forward |
| 07:49.42 | gnarface | ethanol: but there are no domains in your aliases file? |
| 07:50.05 | ethanol | nope |
| 07:50.12 | simonrvn | ethanol: you probably set it that way when you got asked for it (dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config) |
| 07:50.20 | ethanol | just a lot of user = root, and at the very end, root = me |
| 07:50.27 | gnarface | ethanol: pastebin your /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf |
| 07:50.29 | mudsplatter | rofl |
| 07:50.35 | mudsplatter | it burns when i pee...... |
| 07:50.42 | mudsplatter | i herd clam av is no more |
| 07:51.00 | simonrvn | mudsplatter: in volatile. lenny's is too old. |
| 07:51.15 | simonrvn | read the email carefully ;) |
| 07:51.19 | mudsplatter | ..... |
| 07:51.20 | mudsplatter | rofl |
| 07:51.21 | mudsplatter | i know |
| 07:51.24 | mudsplatter | trolling.... |
| 07:51.26 | gnarface | ethanol: or just dpklg-reconfigure exim4-config like simonrvn said |
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| 07:51.42 | ethanol | gnarface: http://pastie.org/655741 |
| 07:51.45 | gnarface | ethanol: or just count your blessings that it's doing what you want for right now and go to bed ;-) |
| 07:51.49 | ethanol | nah no need to change, this is excellent |
| 07:51.56 | ethanol | bed? I just arrived at work man |
| 07:51.58 | ethanol | it's 10am |
| 07:52.00 | ethanol | =D |
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| 07:52.02 | mudsplatter | rol |
| 07:52.05 | mudsplatter | where are u |
| 07:52.08 | ethanol | netherlands |
| 07:52.08 | gnarface | hah |
| 07:52.09 | mudsplatter | its 3:52 |
| 07:52.11 | mudsplatter | where im at |
| 07:52.16 | mudsplatter | am |
| 07:52.28 | ethanol | mostly americans here I take it? |
| 07:52.32 | mudsplatter | i am |
| 07:52.41 | gnarface | i am |
| 07:52.52 | mudsplatter | i went to lenny after i tried karmic..... |
| 07:52.59 | simonrvn | just got up and it's also 3:52 |
| 07:53.01 | simonrvn | nope |
| 07:53.04 | mudsplatter | im totally scared of change |
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| 07:53.26 | simonrvn | mi'kmaq/abenaki |
| 07:53.29 | gnarface | ethanol: yea you've got this configured as a remote mail server. all my advice earlier was operating under the assumption that exim4 had been configured for local mail delivery as it's own server but you've got some sort of smart host config or something |
| 07:54.02 | gnarface | ethanol: see how it says dc_eximconfig_configtype='satellite' ? mine says 'local' there |
| 07:54.03 | ethanol | I see |
| 07:54.14 | ethanol | well, not really. but for the sake of trying to keep up with the conversation |
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| 07:54.27 | gnarface | there are three basic behaviors |
| 07:54.27 | ethanol | yeah our server is in space |
| 07:54.28 | ethanol | =D |
| 07:54.47 | gnarface | 1) local deliver only 2) internet mail server 3) something weird |
| 07:55.00 | gnarface | you seem to have picked "something weird" |
| 07:55.04 | gnarface | er, smarthost or something maybe? |
| 07:55.11 | gnarface | i'm really not sure honestly i've only ever used the other two |
| 07:55.24 | gnarface | apologies mail services are not my forte. i mostly deal with web software |
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| 07:56.21 | gnarface | but in your case your earlier statement actually *may* be accurate... it might forward all "local" mail to users at a domain off the system |
| 07:56.46 | gnarface | from your config i'd just guess @nowcast.nl or @smtp.xs4all.nl |
| 07:57.00 | gnarface | one of those would be outgoing one would be incoming i think |
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| 07:58.18 | gnarface | ethanol: just to be clear, that is not default behavior for a standard type internet mail server - your config has been wired up to depend on external mail gateways implicitly |
| 07:58.38 | gnarface | so to a certain degree their configuration is also relevant to where your mails actually end up |
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| 07:59.03 | gnarface | seems to have been set up right though, no? |
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| 07:59.52 | bhundven | http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/networking/exim.html |
| 07:59.56 | sebl | hi all |
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| 08:00.04 | sebl | question about etch-backports |
| 08:01.06 | sebl | why can't we have postgresql 8.3.8 in etch-backports ? |
| 08:01.17 | sebl | http://packages.debian.org/etch-backports/postgresql-8.3 |
| 08:01.51 | sebl | we know we have to upgrade to lenny, but for now, we are stick to etch |
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| 08:02.33 | ethanol | gnarface: yes I think I have done an exim reconfigure once in the past, right after install |
| 08:03.30 | ethanol | gnarface: smtp.xs4all.nl is the smtp server of hosting provider of our rack in amsterdam |
| 08:04.18 | ethanol | I think the smarthost is used for outgoing mail |
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| 08:05.56 | ethanol | what I don't understand though, is why I never received any mail on my account locally |
| 08:06.02 | ethanol | is that step completely skipped? |
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| 08:11.17 | gnarface | ethanol: yes i think that's what you're doing when you pick a smarthost as the receiver of all system mail |
| 08:11.33 | ethanol | aha |
| 08:11.47 | ethanol | well, it's a good thing we setup our mail accounts at this domain then yesterday |
| 08:11.53 | gnarface | ethanol: like i said i've only read the description of the option, never tried it myself. i always set "local delivery only" (for desktops) and "internet mail server" for everything else |
| 08:11.56 | ethanol | one of the cronjobs was apparantly throwing a parse error :') |
| 08:12.06 | gnarface | hah i hate it when that happens :) |
| 08:12.28 | ethanol | yeah, my coworker apparantly didn't feel the need to test it before having me add it |
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| 08:13.59 | gnarface | tsk tsk |
| 08:14.02 | ethanol | on a completely different subject, how could I find all files/folders beloning to user or group 1002 ? |
| 08:14.11 | ethanol | belonging* ? |
| 08:14.17 | gnarface | the find command |
| 08:14.30 | gnarface | (i know, obscure that it would be named that, huh?) |
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| 08:15.20 | ethanol | find . -gid 1002 -uid 1002 I presume? (found the -gid, take it -uid is the other part) |
| 08:15.29 | ethanol | how could I make it an OR statement though? |
| 08:15.55 | bhundven | -or |
| 08:15.56 | gnarface | i'm not all that good with find i usually pipe my output through grep and regexp the shit out of it |
| 08:16.05 | gnarface | bhundven: really? its -or? lol |
| 08:16.10 | ethanol | aha, -o |
| 08:16.19 | bhundven | find . -uid 1002 -or -gid 1002 |
| 08:16.22 | ethanol | (just found it in man) |
| 08:16.22 | gnarface | nice |
| 08:16.42 | ethanol | -or = -o (except -or is not POSIX compliant) |
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| 08:16.47 | bhundven | meh |
| 08:16.51 | gnarface | this whole irc fad is fun. i learn all kinds of shit hanging out in here |
| 08:16.56 | ethanol | just stating what I found :> |
| 08:17.04 | ethanol | don't even know what POSIX compliant means |
| 08:17.12 | bhundven | totally, knowing is half the battle ;) |
| 08:17.22 | ethanol | yeah IRC is fun times |
| 08:17.25 | ethanol | ^^ |
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| 08:17.55 | ethanol | the amount of knowledge I have gathered here is probably beyond my imagination (quite literaly, I wouldn't know how much I can contribute to it) |
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| 08:21.17 | bhundven | ethanol: posting your experiences and tips on wikis, forums, and blogs also get attention and feedback from crowds outside of irc ;) for instance, http://www.debian-administration.org/ or http://wiki.debian.org/ |
| 08:21.28 | eirikb | Hello. Is it "normal" to have 0.6 in load when top say: Cpu(s): 10.1%us, 0.7%sy, 0.0%ni, 88.9%id, 0.0%wa, 0.0%hi, 0.3%si, 0.0%st |
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| 08:22.11 | ethanol | bhundven: I'm not a big fan of forums and such though. faaaar too many for me to keep up with if I were to get into using those :( |
| 08:22.44 | ethanol | eirikb: well, 0.6 as the first value? |
| 08:22.58 | bhundven | no worries, thats why i only posted two links |
| 08:23.18 | eirikb | ethanol: 0.70, 0.56, 0.48 <- atm |
| 08:23.19 | ethanol | eirikb: I always prefer to look at the second value, first is just too dodgy, too erratic. |
| 08:23.33 | ethanol | eirikb: that does show a steady (perhaps slow though) increase |
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| 08:25.08 | eirikb | ethanol: It's random, but on daytime I usually have 0.5 - 0.6 on the last number |
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| 08:25.26 | ethanol | the last is average over past 15 minutes I believe (it's 1, 5, 15 ?) |
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| 08:25.31 | bhundven | ugh. 1week old daughter is now asleep, now I can sleep. (1:25am -8 PST) |
| 08:25.34 | eirikb | ethanol: Yeah |
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| 08:26.00 | rdz | hi all. when running a backup of a certain nfs export, the response time of apache accessing the same nfs export grows immensely. now i wonder if there is a way to specify priorities for accessing a certain nfs export. |
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| 08:26.20 | eirikb | ethanol: But the CPU, mem and iowait is never high... |
| 08:26.28 | ethanol | that's quite high I reckon. but nothing I would worry about. I have a very simplistic interpretation of it, 0.6 implies to me only about 60% of resources were used. hence nothing worrying |
| 08:27.02 | ethanol | and it even depends on the amount of cores you have. if you have two cores for example, I wouldn't start worrying till you exceed a load of 2.0 |
| 08:27.11 | eirikb | Ohh |
| 08:27.14 | ethanol | (that's the way I see it at least) |
| 08:27.17 | eirikb | I have a couple of those, yeah |
| 08:27.41 | eirikb | So the load is pr core, not divided |
| 08:27.49 | ethanol | that is my interpretation yes |
| 08:27.59 | ethanol | I could be wrong though, no expert on the subject |
| 08:28.01 | eirikb | That's good to know :) |
| 08:28.13 | ethanol | but a long time ago I looked into various sources, and this was my conclusion |
| 08:28.34 | eirikb | BUt CPU% is divided? |
| 08:28.47 | ethanol | I would recommend htop over top |
| 08:28.51 | ethanol | it shows per core usage |
| 08:29.00 | eirikb | ethanol: Yeah I use htop, but I don't get iowait and such in it |
| 08:29.38 | simonrvn | eirikb: you can set it that way |
| 08:29.51 | eirikb | simonrvn: I had a quick look in F2(options) |
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| 08:30.37 | hounddog | gnarface i am so lucky that i am not the one paying for this server :) |
| 08:30.57 | et | eirikb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_%28computing%29#Load_average_is_not_CPU_utilization |
| 08:31.24 | simonrvn | CPU: 74.5% sy: 5.6% ni: 0.0% hi: 0.6% si: 0.0% wa: 3.7% |
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| 08:32.26 | simonrvn | et++ |
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| 08:33.18 | eirikb | et: Thanks. Although I wasn't aiming directly for CPU, rather the factors of cpu, mem and iowait together... |
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| 08:33.41 | eirikb | et: But I get the point |
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| 08:34.51 | et | one point is that, especially on linux, dividing by core may be misleading ;) |
| 08:34.58 | eirikb | Yeah |
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| 08:35.55 | eirikb | et: What would you recommend as a good tool to get cpu calculations on all processors, in avarage? mpstat? |
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| 08:36.27 | et | i use htop most of the time, when i'm on linux |
| 08:36.39 | eirikb | Does it give avarage cpu? |
| 08:36.53 | eirikb | Ah yeah |
| 08:36.55 | eirikb | Found it |
| 08:37.00 | Arrowmaster | it shows pretty bars |
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| 08:37.30 | et | averaging per-core is pretty odd, as the stuff could be moved around ... |
| 08:37.36 | caraconan | Hi. Same deploying of my app in two different machines: A => works the cron job B=> doesn't. http://pastebin.com/m460958ed Some help? |
| 08:37.44 | eirikb | et: I wanst avarage total |
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| 08:37.59 | caraconan | I try to 1) su www-data 2) facsimile.sh volcar => works |
| 08:38.05 | caraconan | But the cron job doesn't |
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| 08:38.30 | simonrvn | 'average' |
| 08:38.34 | et | caraconan: environment variables? |
| 08:38.53 | caraconan | But please point me over there |
| 08:38.54 | eirikb | Well then I got that sorted out. Thanks |
| 08:38.56 | eirikb | Bye |
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| 08:39.04 | caraconan | I don't know what can be important here |
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| 08:41.05 | et | caraconan: cron jobs don't have the same environment variables as an interactive shell |
| 08:41.12 | et | caraconan: path may be different etc |
| 08:41.38 | caraconan | But I exactly copy the files from one debian lenny machine to another debian lenny machine |
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| 08:42.02 | caraconan | I'm sure it's a environment variables issue, but what are involved? |
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| 08:43.01 | et | how should we know? it's not our script |
| 08:43.19 | caraconan | Well, I think is a disk failure issue: |
| 08:43.26 | caraconan | datos:~# df -h |
| 08:43.26 | caraconan | -bash: df: no se encontró la orden |
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| 08:43.39 | caraconan | Doesn't find the 'df' command... |
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| 08:43.56 | caraconan | This week is giving me headheaches.... I'm gonna change it know |
| 08:43.58 | et | echo $PATH |
| 08:44.01 | caraconan | Thanks for the help |
| 08:44.13 | caraconan | <et> I'm sure is a hardware issue |
| 08:44.31 | caraconan | Now it will start with I/O errors... I know it |
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| 08:45.23 | huangjs | hi, I have a SUID program and I want to change its default environment (e.g. LD_LIBRARY_PATH), is there a way to do that? |
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| 08:46.44 | catsup_ | huangjs: set the library suid |
| 08:47.19 | huangjs | catsup_: well, it cannot find the library if the env is not set. |
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| 08:47.34 | catsup_ | oh |
| 08:47.40 | iceroot | i want to build a *.deb my rules-file has this line install -d -m 755 Python26/ debian/tmp/var/lib/samba/netlogon/scripts/Python26/ dpkg-buidpakcage -rfakeroot is building the *.deb (without the python-dir) but its generating the tar.gz with the python-dir. any idea what you be my problem why the python-dir is not in the deb? |
| 08:47.48 | catsup_ | there must be some confusion |
| 08:48.09 | catsup_ | because there is really no such thing as a default environment, other than the environment set by the kernel, or i suppose by init |
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| 08:48.49 | catsup_ | you can replace the program with a shell script that sets up the environment |
| 08:49.07 | catsup_ | but basically that's it, all you can do is modify the caller |
| 08:49.26 | catsup_ | [unless you modify the program] |
| 08:49.45 | nsadmin | iceroot: what happens when you try to install the package? |
| 08:50.29 | iceroot | nsadmin: hm never tried to install because the deb is 3KB, the Python-Dir 10MB |
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| 08:53.05 | sway | iceroot: is that line verbatim? |
| 08:55.13 | themill | iceroot: install -d only creates a directory, it doesn't copy files |
| 08:55.56 | iceroot | themill: hm ok i will have a look at the manpage to install directory with all files in it |
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| 08:57.13 | iceroot | swayingshmoon: it is |
| 08:57.28 | nsadmin | iceroot you are using debhelper? |
| 08:57.34 | swayingshmoon | iceroot: huh. thank you. |
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| 08:57.45 | iceroot | nsadmin: yes |
| 08:58.15 | nsadmin | you probably already know that each of the executables in debhelper have manpages |
| 08:58.53 | themill | iceroot: yeah, if you're using debhelper, then you rarely need to use "install" directly |
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| 08:59.50 | yucatan1 | for a simple ftp server witch packet do u guys advice i use ftpd now |
| 08:59.57 | yucatan1 | but of ftpd i cant find the config file |
| 08:59.59 | iceroot | nsadmin: as i said, i will look at the manpage for install. |
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| 09:00.06 | yucatan1 | where i can make users or something |
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| 09:04.49 | gnarface | revolving door in this place looks like a circus carousel |
| 09:04.56 | gnarface | what the hell is wrong with you people? |
| 09:04.58 | gnarface | log in and leave it on |
| 09:05.16 | gnarface | ffs |
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| 09:05.47 | gnarface | and get off my lawn! |
| 09:05.52 | gnarface | is an angry old man |
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| 09:09.19 | nsadmin | lawn order |
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| 09:10.02 | gnarface | haha |
| 09:10.44 | gnarface | time to pass out |
| 09:10.47 | gnarface | later people |
| 09:10.57 | g00se | "Proxy request sent, awaiting response... No data received." is what i get when i try to use wget with a ssh tunnel proxy. Am i setting something wrong (wget *does* connect to the proxy)? |
| 09:10.58 | Hideo | later old man |
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| 09:12.55 | yucatan1 | how can i add users in proftpd? |
| 09:12.55 | nachos | hi, ive installed openswan and it starts around the time networking comes up, ive disabled the scripts in rc2 but it still starts on system boot |
| 09:14.41 | SPF | g00se: you should give some more info about the problem. What commands are you using, how did you create the tunnel etc? |
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| 09:16.58 | SPF | g00se: I think you also need to set your http_proxy variable |
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| 09:19.31 | nachos | how do i disable openswan |
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| 09:21.42 | shyam_k | is old sarge packages still available? |
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| 09:21.57 | petemc | !ado |
| 09:21.57 | dpkg | Find old Debian releases at http://archive.debian.org/ |
| 09:22.09 | derferman | what vpn server do you guys recommend for debian? openvpn? pptp? |
| 09:22.13 | shyam_k | btw what was that command to check debian version? |
| 09:22.28 | OpenTokix | derferman: openvpn is nice, but crappy performance between nodes |
| 09:22.36 | nsadmin | it's in the file /etc/debian_version |
| 09:22.56 | shyam_k | well its better if i can tell my friend to try some command:) |
| 09:23.11 | derferman | tokix: Just looking to help a friend out overseas, so I really don't need that much performacne |
| 09:23.18 | shyam_k | ha let he be down with. cat /etc/debian_version |
| 09:23.27 | Hideo | !version |
| 09:23.27 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a, or cat /proc/version. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distributions. |
| 09:23.30 | valdyn | shyam_k: since people normally fuck up their systems by mixing releases that file is not very useful |
| 09:23.53 | g00se | SPF: Did that. Not sure if that means socks though. Anyway it didn't work |
| 09:24.08 | shyam_k | valdyn: yeah am about to prevent one doing that so thought i would rather ask the system than him:) |
| 09:24.18 | nsadmin | shyam_k... hmm, cat /etc/debian_version... looks like a command to me |
| 09:24.20 | OpenTokix | derferman: openvpn is reallty nice, but remember you need secure way to exchange keys |
| 09:24.43 | shyam_k | uh he says 4.0 |
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| 09:25.08 | shyam_k | but he was saying of seeing "sarge 3.1" as an option on synaptic repsoitory choices.! |
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| 09:26.31 | shyam_k | so i should be giving him an apt line to let him install stellarium.. i should give it with etch right? |
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| 09:28.09 | nsadmin | shyam_k: well it seems he's actually running etch... |
| 09:28.13 | nachos | how do i disable openswan, it starts before networking? |
| 09:28.26 | nachos | ive disabled the RC scripts in rc(x) but it still runs on startup |
| 09:28.29 | nsadmin | but if he didn't know that, it's possible he got upgraded as a surprise |
| 09:28.32 | nachos | i dont want to uninstall it |
| 09:29.10 | nsadmin | edit the script to exit early |
| 09:29.43 | nsadmin | how did you enable it? |
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| 09:30.08 | nachos | are you talking to me nsadmin |
| 09:30.27 | shyam_k | valdyn: in case he has already mixed up(actually he is using a custom made cd so there is chance that the cd creator has messed it up) which would be a better way to check for the version to point it to the correct repository? |
| 09:30.52 | valdyn | shyam_k: dpkg -l libc6 |
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| 09:31.32 | valdyn | shyam_k: and verifying that the package management is in a sane state |
| 09:31.45 | valdyn | shyam_k: like "aptitude -f install" should do nothing |
| 09:31.51 | marcin_ | Hi. Could someone tell what's wrong with this rule: KERNEL=="eth1", PROGRAM="/etc/udev/udev_bonzai %k", SYSFS{address}=="%c", NAME="%k" beacuse I have no idea, what's badly. :/ |
| 09:32.00 | nsadmin | nachos yeah... probably you want to be reminded that you will have done that... put something like echo "DISABLED: edit /etc/init.d/that.script" |
| 09:32.20 | nachos | thats a bit of a hack |
| 09:32.35 | nsadmin | and the rest of unix isn't? :) |
| 09:32.42 | nachos | yeah lol |
| 09:32.47 | Shadur | The man has a point. |
| 09:32.49 | nachos | what would be the right script command |
| 09:32.51 | nachos | exit |
| 09:32.53 | nsadmin | well ok, judge it as you want |
| 09:33.22 | valdyn | if the script is in in rcX.d then its not run |
| 09:33.25 | nsadmin | yeah, and put an echo before the exit so you're reminded every time, that you did that |
| 09:33.27 | valdyn | if the script is *not* in rcX.d then its not run |
| 09:34.02 | Shadur | update_rc.d - and remember you'll need to force it to remove a script if the package is still installed. |
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| 09:34.07 | nsadmin | that's true... but in practice, links into /etc/init.d go there |
| 09:34.08 | nachos | yeah valdyn its disabled and it still runs |
| 09:34.18 | valdyn | nachos: no it doesnt run |
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| 09:34.48 | nachos | thanks nsadmin the hack worked |
| 09:34.49 | valdyn | nachos: why dont you draw the logical conclusion that *something* *else* is doing this |
| 09:34.59 | nsadmin | valdyn: perhaps the daemon might start by another mechanism |
| 09:35.00 | nachos | yeah |
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| 09:35.01 | superlinux | hi |
| 09:35.04 | superlinux | I use debian. I want the minimalistic install of mono. which pkg i should select? |
| 09:35.05 | SPF | g00se: ssh -D:8080 user@host; export http_proxy=http://localhost:8080; wget foo.bar |
| 09:35.07 | nachos | thats what i think |
| 09:35.10 | valdyn | nachos: or that you didnt really disable that symlink |
| 09:35.23 | nsadmin | but he just confirmed it starts by the init.d script |
| 09:36.14 | nachos | something is calling the init script |
| 09:36.20 | nachos | but not something in rc(x) |
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| 09:36.39 | nsadmin | minimonomimemonkey? |
| 09:36.49 | valdyn | nachos: someone else fucked up that system? |
| 09:36.54 | nachos | possibly |
| 09:37.02 | valdyn | nachos: cat /etc/rc.local |
| 09:37.05 | nachos | its retarding the ipsec traffic on my lan |
| 09:37.12 | nachos | its not there |
| 09:37.15 | nachos | rc.local is last |
| 09:37.21 | nachos | this gets started around networking time |
| 09:37.52 | nsadmin | isn't networking started before going to default runlevel? |
| 09:38.11 | nachos | possibly |
| 09:38.14 | nachos | need a guru to confirm |
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| 09:38.28 | nsadmin | or look in /etc/rcS.d |
| 09:39.12 | nachos | i think thats it nsadmin |
| 09:39.14 | nachos | your a champ |
| 09:40.42 | nachos | yeah that was it |
| 09:40.49 | nachos | gives nsadmin a bowl of doritos |
| 09:40.58 | nsadmin | so now you could undo the hack if you want |
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| 09:41.30 | g00se | SPF: Thanks. Mine is exactly that but port is 1080. Doesn't work |
| 09:41.38 | shyam_k | thanks people.. it seems to be clear now:) |
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| 09:42.25 | shyam_k | see ya later.. |
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| 10:07.17 | amol | hi to all,i am trying to download debian-installer using this comamnd svn co svn://svn.debian.org/svn/d-i/trunk/ debian-installer-trunk but getting error as connection timeout. |
| 10:08.08 | amol | is sn.debian.org is down? |
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| 10:14.30 | g00se | amol: Not down for me. Why are you getting src btw? |
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| 10:15.16 | amol | g00se, i wan to compile and get netboot image for armel |
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| 10:24.28 | jelly | amol: tried asking in #debian-arm (on irc.debian.org)? |
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| 10:25.55 | solredis | does anyone know how to get nfs logs on a linux box? |
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| 10:27.01 | jelly | "what logs", he said |
| 10:27.34 | solredis | how to produce or enable them? |
| 10:29.01 | jelly | dunno, I haven't seen any apart from the mount-time ones and timeout related |
| 10:29.08 | catsup_ | nfs will log various things through syslogd, which will be output in various files in /var/log if you have a normal syslog configuration |
| 10:29.21 | jelly | solredis: those are kernel messages thru syslog |
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| 10:29.40 | mario_ | Hi |
| 10:29.49 | mario_ | when i do a "grub-install /dev/sda" i get: boot grub /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly |
| 10:29.58 | mario_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:30.03 | jelly | catsup_: any stuff other than kern.*? |
| 10:30.05 | mario_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:30.18 | mario_ | what else could it be? |
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| 10:30.44 | solredis | yeah ill have a look, I know solaris has nfslogd looks much more of a dedicated at logging nfs |
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| 10:31.00 | catsup_ | well if someone tries to mount an nfs partition without proper perms it will show up in auth.log |
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| 10:31.15 | caraconan | Hi. Someone knows how to change to 'UTF-8' the default encoding of scite? |
| 10:31.35 | amol | mario_, use grub instead grub-install |
| 10:32.14 | freetime | hi, can anyboady tell why iptables auto add a rule to drop an ip |
| 10:32.56 | freetime | and how to reconfigure this function |
| 10:33.15 | jelly | Zambezi: you'll also need to backport libtorrent11 |
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| 10:33.49 | Zambezi | I added the backport-repos in Lenny to upgrade rtorrent, but it's not there. And if I type just this it wants to upgrade Asterisk so it's added properly: aptitude -t lenny-backports install |
| 10:34.01 | catsup_ | freetime: you must have some package installed that does that... |
| 10:34.24 | jelly | Zambezi: yes. "/msg dpkg ssb" gives a simple step-by-step to build your own backport. |
| 10:34.41 | catsup_ | freetime: do you have psad installed? |
| 10:34.54 | freetime | i install only fai2ban-ssh |
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| 10:35.22 | catsup_ | oh |
| 10:35.29 | catsup_ | it looks like fail2ban can do that too |
| 10:35.38 | catsup_ | um are you using squeeze |
| 10:35.56 | catsup_ | oh nevermind, it can do that in lenny too |
| 10:37.38 | freetime | but the rule is not added in fai2ban-ssh chain but in input chain |
| 10:38.14 | Zambezi | jelly: Lets hope for the best now. |
| 10:38.22 | Zambezi | jelly: Thanks for tip. |
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| 10:43.01 | hid3 | Good afternoon everyone. I've installed nvidia-legacy drivers (71.xx version from nvidia site) for my nVidia Riva TNT2 Model 64 (32 MB card). `glxgears` displays around 170 FPS but performance seems to be terrible: menus are 'slow' to appear, there's a lag when minimizing/maximizing windows. Is this it should work or am I missing something? I'm running lxde with gdm. |
| 10:44.41 | jelly | hid3: use the free drivers, and forego 3D on that old a card |
| 10:46.13 | destrudo | How far is he? |
| 10:46.25 | destrudo | Wait what? |
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| 10:48.54 | hid3 | jelly, yeah, the card is old but I expected better performance on such simple things from it regardless of the drivers... |
| 10:49.32 | Zambezi | jelly: I can't find libtorrent11 or later rtorrent in the backports. I followed this: http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions |
| 10:49.39 | jelly | hid3: you'll have to complain to Nvidia if you're going to use their driver |
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| 10:49.58 | hid3 | jelly, what alternatives do I have? |
| 10:50.20 | jelly | Zambezi: uh... didn't we go thru this already? You have to backport it yourself. |
| 10:50.39 | jelly | hid3: use the free drivers, and forego 3D on that old a card |
| 10:51.19 | hid3 | what do you mean by saying free? And apt-cache gives nothing about 'forego' |
| 10:51.38 | Zambezi | jelly: I tried it without any lucky. I did the step in the /dpkg something you gave me. |
| 10:52.09 | jelly | Zambezi: how did it fail? |
| 10:52.36 | Zambezi | jelly: It build form 0.7.9 source. |
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| 10:53.21 | jelly | hid3: I mean standard xorg drivers for nvidia. "forego" means "don't use it" |
| 10:54.00 | jelly | Zambezi: did you do step 1)? How does your sources.list look now? |
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| 10:54.25 | hid3 | oh, sorry, misunderstood. And there aren't any suitable standart xorg drivers. The card is being detected just as 'generic video card' |
| 10:54.41 | jelly | hid3: I _think_ the driver is called "nv" |
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| 10:55.13 | hid3 | Thanks, will try it! |
| 10:55.18 | jelly | hid3: what's your card's pci-id? (lspci -n)? |
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| 10:56.15 | hid3 | I believe it's 01:00.0 0300: 10de:002d (rev 15) |
| 10:56.37 | jelly | judd: pciid 10de:002d |
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| 10:56.39 | judd | jelly: [10de:002d] is 'NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro]' from 'nVidia Corporation' with kernel module 'nvidiafb' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10de:002d |
| 10:56.52 | jelly | eh. |
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| 10:57.04 | Zambezi | jelly: Like this: http://pastebin.ca/1621875 |
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| 10:58.59 | jelly | Zambezi: copy the first deb-src line and replace "lenny" with "sid" |
| 10:59.15 | hid3 | jelly, so should I use 'nvidiafb' instead of 'nv', right? |
| 10:59.21 | jelly | hid3: no, use nv |
| 10:59.25 | jelly | judd is dumb |
| 10:59.26 | judd | jelly: Error: "is" is not a valid command. |
| 10:59.35 | SPF | g00se: I think I have the syntax wrong |
| 10:59.35 | jelly | judd: shut up |
| 10:59.36 | judd | jelly: Error: "shut" is not a valid command. |
| 10:59.41 | hid3 | ok, thanks |
| 11:00.00 | hid3 | It takes so looong to restore backups on this slow machine :( |
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| 11:06.15 | SPF | g00se: I don't know how it works again. I currently use putty which works fine |
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| 11:07.24 | SPF | does anyone know how to use the dynamic forwarding option in combination with wget? ssh -D 8080 user@host; export http_proxy??? wget ?? |
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| 11:08.10 | themill | jelly: some of that is fixed in git (just needs stew to sync up), but there is no kernel module "nv" -- that's an xorg driver, so "/msg judd xorg 10de:002d". (out-of-tree kernel modules need resyncing and "xorg" only really works for lenny atm) |
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| 11:09.04 | g00se | SPF: Thanks for your input. My ISP has blocked http ;-) The proxy works with Iceweasel though so that's not too bad |
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| 11:10.42 | SPF | g00se: np. I also use Iceweasel, but I never tried with wget |
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| 11:15.04 | toad_ | anyone help with a postfix/kmail config problem? it was working until today, i removed a file (which was there due to previously having to ssh in to the server, but this is not relevant any more), and now i can't get it to work - both SMTP and Sendmail methods fail |
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| 11:15.40 | toad_ | I have postfix running locally, when I tell kmail to use sendmail it fails with "you must specify the addresses on the command line" or something similar (testing from command line it does work) |
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| 11:15.57 | toad_ | if I tell it to use SMTP it also fails with 5.5.1 error: no valid recipients |
| 11:15.59 | toad_ | any ideas? |
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| 11:16.23 | ethanol | toad from belgium? |
| 11:16.31 | toad_ | not from belgium |
| 11:16.35 | ethanol | ah, ok |
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| 11:17.10 | toad_ | been to brussels many times though |
| 11:17.23 | ethanol | yeah but I knew a toad on gamesurge |
| 11:17.24 | toad_ | can anyone help with my kmail/postfix problem? |
| 11:17.25 | SPF | toad_: http://pastebin.com/d5edeef4f |
| 11:17.33 | SPF | my working config example |
| 11:17.34 | ethanol | was wondering if you were the same guy |
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| 11:17.56 | toad_ | SPF: i'm fairly sure postfix is still working, it's kmail that's the problem |
| 11:18.05 | SPF | ah ok |
| 11:18.09 | toad_ | i haven't done anything to postfix and it was working yesterday |
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| 11:19.27 | toad_ | "5.5.1 Error: no valid recipients" |
| 11:19.35 | toad_ | when I tell kmail to use SMTP |
| 11:20.40 | ethanol | your error seems unrelated to smtp |
| 11:20.43 | toad_ | whereas if I use the sendmail method, it says no recipients on the command line ... |
| 11:20.48 | ethanol | you're not specifying a valid recipient |
| 11:20.48 | ethanol | :< |
| 11:20.55 | toad_ | this suggests a bug in kmail, but it was working yesteday! |
| 11:21.19 | ethanol | how about showing both the command you are executing and the outcome, in pastebin? |
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| 11:22.45 | caraconan | Hi. Someone using subversion can give to me the path to hot-backup.py ? Thanks |
| 11:23.26 | toad_ | hmmm, it's working now, wierd |
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| 11:23.34 | toad_ | looks like the message stuck in outbox was broken somehow |
| 11:23.36 | toad_ | thanks |
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| 11:24.33 | mario_ | amol: when i am in the grub shell, i cant find any files |
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| 11:25.26 | caraconan | The directory /path/my_repository/hooks/script doesn't exists |
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| 11:26.49 | ethanol | caraconan: google is your friend |
| 11:27.02 | caraconan | This time not :( |
| 11:27.10 | caraconan | http://svnbook.red-bean.com/en/1.1/ch05s03.html |
| 11:27.30 | caraconan | Talks about that script, but I couldn't find it under my repository tree |
| 11:28.44 | caraconan | And I don't find options passed to 'svnadmin create' |
| 11:28.58 | vlt | Hello. From machine A I can successfully scan on B using `scanimage -d "net:machineB:hpaio:/usb..."`. But the same command from machine C shows me "scanimage: open of device net:machineB:hpaio:/usb... failed: Error during device I/O". Any idea what's missing on machine C? |
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| 11:29.49 | caraconan | And here /usr/share/subversion/hook-scripts => is not the one I'm looking for |
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| 11:32.02 | caraconan | [SOLVED] svnadmin hotcopy /var/svn/repos /var/svn/repos-backup |
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| 11:40.42 | Ddany72 | ciao a tt |
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| 11:41.13 | Ddany72 | !it |
| 11:41.14 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
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| 11:47.30 | amol | mario_. use command root and setup like >root (hd0,0) >setup (hd0) if boot is on /dev/sda1 |
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| 11:47.43 | emaia | I'm tryoing use autofs5 and an Active Directory. Anyones know how to configure autofs5? |
| 11:48.05 | mario_ | amol: i did...i am usring grub2 now, which is a little more verbose. I already found a mistake :) |
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| 11:51.18 | jandro | I'm serving files through samba in my Debian 5.0 box. I am trying to follow a symlink from the client buy it's not working. I have "wide links" and "follow symlinks" enabled. Any Idea of what else could I do? |
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| 11:51.46 | shad0w | hello |
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| 11:55.12 | shad0w | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.12 | shad0w | <shad0w> how can i achive to bypass settings manager and use fonts.conf options? |
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| 11:58.06 | awk | hrm, what provides locale-gen ? |
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| 12:00.22 | dpkg | Package: $(which locale-gen): Status: install ok installed |
| 12:00.23 | petemc | locales: /usr/sbin/locale-gen |
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| 12:03.59 | awk | petemc: I don't have that package, so wondering what package associated to that? |
| 12:04.32 | petemc | you can use apt-file to find out what package provides what file |
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| 12:12.48 | anoob | awk, you can use http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_contents too... |
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| 12:13.39 | awk | thanks! |
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| 12:15.26 | awk | That works nice... |
| 12:15.39 | Imran-UK | is anyone here a sysadmin for home users/"roadwarriors" on vpns? just need some general advice on improving vpn service levels. |
| 12:16.13 | Imran-UK | prolly sdsl (not adsl as we have currently) is an asnwer |
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| 12:25.01 | zeier | is --initrd necessary for make-kpkg? All my kernels do have initrd images, so without that option won't be there one? |
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| 12:26.32 | Titan8990 | kernels do not require initrds, depending on how they were configured |
| 12:26.33 | loiseau | hello |
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| 12:27.09 | loiseau | I need help about routing issue on my VPN configuration |
| 12:27.17 | Knightingale | hey guys i've tried unrar and 7zip to try extract a rar but they don't seem to be able to restructure the files into the original directories. any idea how i could? |
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| 12:31.17 | Knightingale | ah nvm needed x instead of e |
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| 12:33.12 | simonrvn | zeier: if they're built with initrd in mind, they should be built with the option yes |
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| 12:35.56 | zeier | simonrvn: what does "initrd in mind" mean? I am compiling vanilla. |
| 12:36.35 | vlt | Hello. I want to allow a tcp6 address in /etc/sane.d/saned.conf. Every version I tried (with or w/o brackets, with or w/o zeros) is rejected. Any idea? |
| 12:36.56 | vlt | The error msg I get from saned is "access by host ::ffff:192.168.1.1 denied" |
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| 12:37.29 | simonrvn | zeier: e.g., ext3 and ide as modules instead of built-in |
| 12:37.47 | simonrvn | zeier: plain debian-built kernels, etc. |
| 12:38.28 | zeier | ahh, okay. I'll do it with --initrd option. |
| 12:38.31 | zeier | thank you |
| 12:38.36 | jelly | vlt: that looks like an ipv4 address (but a bit wrapped) |
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| 12:42.42 | g00se | valdyn: Back to wodim. I tried the simple command to write and it failed. Write with -force produced http://pastebin.com/m79c93f01 The disk i'm using has already been written to. Is that problematic? |
| 12:43.33 | anoob | awk: ;) |
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| 12:45.27 | retybok | I would like to install debian at home where I have a slow internet connection, but I'd also like to avoid burning five DVDs. Is there a DVD image somewhere with the most frequent packages? |
| 12:45.34 | retybok | *debian stable |
| 12:45.51 | petemc | retybok: the first dvd will probably have most of what you need |
| 12:46.36 | retybok | petemc: so the first dvd will work alone, without asking for the other ones? |
| 12:46.50 | simonrvn | retybok: first one |
| 12:46.57 | simonrvn | retybok: yes |
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| 12:47.35 | retybok | thanks a lot! |
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| 12:51.51 | vlt | jelly: Yes. Do you know how to make saned accept connections from it? 192.168.0.0/16 doesn't work :/ |
| 12:52.12 | hounddog | i am having a problem importing a csv file into mysql... Incorrect string value: '\xF6 i am having german umlauts in the csv file but i have set everything to utf8-general-ci |
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| 12:55.34 | ranix | hounddog: convert the csv file to utf-8 and pass that to mysql |
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| 12:56.51 | ranix | hounddog: it's a problem with mysql's handling of characters that aren't included in ISO-8859-1 |
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| 13:00.48 | jelly | vlt: dunno, I stay away from ipv6 as far as possible |
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| 13:02.15 | hounddog | ranix that could be the solution let me se |
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| 13:05.21 | hounddog | ranix same problem... |
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| 13:15.17 | Ergo^ | hello, i got a powr failure when i wanted to install nvidia drivers -- now i get this http://paste2.org/p/469901 - how do i fix this ? |
| 13:16.09 | catsup_ | Ergo^: apt-get -f install |
| 13:16.28 | pren0x | !anyone use the prop. Ati driver on squeeze with a radeon x1400/ thinkpad t60? |
| 13:16.28 | dpkg | No, no one uses the prop. Ati driver on squeeze with a radeon x1400/ thinkpad t60, not even the people who use it. |
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| 13:17.10 | catsup_ | haha |
| 13:17.17 | pren0x | hmm.. |
| 13:17.38 | pren0x | i just want 3d acc... |
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| 13:17.48 | fred1_ | pren0x, dpkg is a bot |
| 13:17.49 | Ergo^ | catsup_: i cant remove it, it says post install scripts got error |
| 13:17.56 | pren0x | i know |
| 13:17.56 | Ergo^ | nor i cant reinstall :/ |
| 13:17.59 | fred1_ | it responds to things starting with ! |
| 13:18.05 | catsup_ | Ergo^: right well fix that error |
| 13:18.21 | fred1_ | ergo force remove it? try aptitude, its usually a bit smarter about stuff like that |
| 13:18.29 | Ergo^ | catsup_: well i got a power failure, im not sure where to search for the problem actually |
| 13:19.08 | fred1_ | Ergo^, try aptitude remove nvidia-185-kernel-source nvidia-glx-185 depends |
| 13:19.08 | fred1_ | then start over |
| 13:19.12 | fred1_ | with installing |
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| 13:19.20 | fred1_ | e |
| 13:19.25 | fred1_ | er, just |
| 13:19.34 | fred1_ | aptitude remove nvidia-185-kernel-source nvidia-glx-185 |
| 13:20.00 | fred1_ | if aptitude suggest othere ads/removes to resolve the dependency tree, let it do what it wants |
| 13:20.59 | anoob | someone knows why can't i install my ati radeon x700 anymore? |
| 13:21.14 | Ergo^ | hmm, it seems taht fakeroot and dkms scripts got broken, any way i could overwrite the files with working ones somewhere ? |
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| 13:21.31 | Shadur | anoob: Perhaps. It all depends on what error you're getting exactly. |
| 13:21.46 | anoob | sorry, i get no screens found error |
| 13:21.57 | pren0x | me 2 |
| 13:22.05 | anoob | fglrx drivers doesn't work anymore |
| 13:22.08 | pren0x | but for a x1400 |
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| 13:22.23 | anoob | i'm at radeon driver now... |
| 13:22.30 | catsup_ | what do you mean 'anymore' |
| 13:24.04 | anoob | i'm mean that a long time ago, it works... |
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| 13:24.37 | catsup_ | uh huh |
| 13:24.44 | catsup_ | and what happened to cause it to break? |
| 13:24.53 | catsup_ | did you upgrade something?? |
| 13:25.26 | jelly | Oct 15 15:22:56 burek udevd[863]: failed to create queue file: No space left on device |
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| 13:25.48 | jelly | ... all the filesystems, including /dev tmpfs, have enough block and inode space left |
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| 13:26.13 | jelly | hates udev |
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| 13:32.51 | sigp239 | Is anyone having connection failures to ftp.us.debian.org? |
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| 13:34.14 | Kvant | seems to work fine for me |
| 13:34.31 | tuv | is there a system tray that supports square areas, or multiline arrangment of icons? |
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| 13:36.12 | ma3x | why is bluetooth non functional in 2.6.31? i get Can't connect RFCOMM socket: No route to host |
| 13:36.26 | abrotman | sigp239: i'd suggest using another mirror anyways |
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| 13:37.02 | freetime | hi , i have a problem, yet i install debina 5.0 lenny, and run on him apache with mysql and php, when i acces my website, iptables add rule who drop my ipaddres |
| 13:37.09 | [Elvis] | hej guys, hpow can i find out what devices are in my machine |
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| 13:37.14 | [Elvis] | harddisk with sizes etc? |
| 13:37.23 | Dassu | Can't see a reason why a person would upgrade to kernel that isn't working at least as well as the later one. If no security holes have occured |
| 13:37.45 | abrotman | [Elvis]: lshw perhaps |
| 13:37.50 | abrotman | or hwinfo |
| 13:38.01 | [Elvis] | doesn't work.. |
| 13:38.04 | [Elvis] | both.. |
| 13:38.08 | abrotman | !doesn't work |
| 13:38.08 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
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| 13:39.15 | blouf | Dassu: +1 |
| 13:39.34 | freetime | so can anybody help me to slove a problem with iptables ? |
| 13:39.49 | abrotman | freetime: you may want #iptables or #netfilter |
| 13:39.49 | blouf | Dassu: the fact is that the new kernel is automatically downloaded with the update, if u don't check everytime ... you dl it |
| 13:39.55 | blouf | freetime: by what ? |
| 13:40.23 | abrotman | Dassu: what are you talking about? it is preferred to have the metapackage unless you have a good reason not to .. for a few reasons |
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| 13:41.28 | Dassu | abrotman: Some device not working propelly is a pretty good reason |
| 13:41.43 | abrotman | Dassu: are you referring to stable or some other version of Debian ? |
| 13:42.14 | Dassu | O_o |
| 13:43.07 | jpin | !used to work |
| 13:43.17 | abrotman | !worked in 2.6 |
| 13:43.21 | abrotman | !worked in 2.4 |
| 13:43.21 | dpkg | Every time you say "___ doesn't work in 2.6, but it worked in 2.4", a 25 cent (USD) surcharge must be paid to greycat. |
| 13:43.22 | abrotman | duh |
| 13:44.15 | jpin | !aptitude |
| 13:44.15 | dpkg | aptitude is probably a terminal-based package manager that can be used in a command-line mode (aptitude install foo ; aptitude remove goo) as well as a text user interface mode (just run "aptitude"). Ask me about <why aptitude> <why not aptitude> <aptitude-fu> or see http://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude |
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| 13:44.47 | Dassu | abrotman: eh, I'm talking about 2.6.xx |
| 13:45.03 | jpin | is aptitude still terminal based? there was a weird version that stuffed gtk stuff on us people |
| 13:45.15 | Dassu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:45.24 | abrotman | Dassu: i realize that .. but which version of Debian? Stable kernel updates shouldn't break drivers, and if you're complaining about a kernel update in testing/unstable breaking your hardware, use stable |
| 13:45.26 | Dumb0 | How to solve a persistent Unmet dependencies problem |
| 13:45.31 | sigp239 | abrotman, What's the fastest/best mirror in Germany? |
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| 13:45.36 | abrotman | jpin: there is a GTK version coming |
| 13:45.43 | Dassu | abrotman: Well, testing. |
| 13:45.51 | abrotman | sigp239: what would make you think that ftp.us.debian.org would be the fastest mirror in germany? |
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| 13:45.53 | Dumb0 | for example I can't install libpcre3-dev |
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| 13:46.24 | abrotman | Dumb0: aptitude update first ? which version of debian? put the error in a pastebin |
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| 13:46.46 | Dassu | abrotman: but I aint having a problem with a kernel but if I would I woudl just not upgrade it |
| 13:47.01 | sigp239 | abrotman, Nothing would make me thing that ftp.us.debian.org would be the fastest mirror in Germany. |
| 13:47.01 | abrotman | Dassu: then what's the point of running testing? |
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| 13:47.13 | abrotman | sigp239: you can use apt-spy .. but really, i'd just pick a random one |
| 13:47.21 | Dassu | abrotman: Newer software ? |
| 13:47.33 | abrotman | Dassu: which you've just defeated by not upgrading .. congratulations |
| 13:47.35 | Dumb0 | abrotman, in reality it's not a debian's problem, but his derivate "Ubuntu", can you still help me ? |
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| 13:47.43 | abrotman | Dumb0: go to #ubuntu for help |
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| 13:47.54 | Dassu | abrotman: Not upgrading the kernel doesn't mean that later software doesn't work. |
| 13:47.59 | Dumb0 | they didn't gave me answer |
| 13:48.00 | Dassu | (always) |
| 13:48.01 | abrotman | Dassu: it can .. |
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| 13:48.07 | Dumb0 | this is why I am here |
| 13:48.09 | Titan8990 | !they don't know |
| 13:48.09 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 13:48.10 | abrotman | Dumb0: not our problem, go to #ubuntu for support |
| 13:48.11 | Dassu | It can but never happened to me. |
| 13:48.38 | abrotman | Dassu: it might prevent udev from upgrading, which then might cascade to hal and then to gnome |
| 13:48.50 | jpin | !slim |
| 13:48.50 | dpkg | SLiM (Simple Login Manager) is a <display manager> based on Login.app. http://slim.berlios.de/ |
| 13:48.58 | jpin | !fat |
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| 13:49.00 | Dassu | abrotman: k |
| 13:49.16 | Dumb0 | abrotman, ok, but show me the way at minimum plz |
| 13:49.26 | abrotman | Dumb0: i'm giong to show you the way to #ubuntu |
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| 13:49.31 | abrotman | if they can't help go to ##linux |
| 13:49.36 | abrotman | jpin: please msg the bot |
| 13:49.48 | themill | Dumb0: if you want help with broken ubuntu packages, then ask #ubuntu about it. If they broke them, then they should know how to fix it. |
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| 13:50.18 | abrotman | should .. hehe |
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| 13:50.44 | jpin | abrotman: what do you mean msg? like private msg? |
| 13:50.45 | Dumb0 | themill, so you mean it's a technical problem that must be resolved by the team developers ? |
| 13:50.51 | abrotman | jpin: /msg dpkg foo |
| 13:51.07 | jpin | ah ok |
| 13:51.36 | themill | Dumb0: possibly. Or a problem with your current setup. In any case, this is really very very ubuntu specific. Now please go off to #ubuntu and ask there. |
| 13:51.41 | jpin | I guess I need some parental advising |
| 13:51.56 | Dumb0 | themill, ok thank you |
| 13:52.09 | jpin | being such a give sending messages to the bot on the channel.. oh oh oh |
| 13:52.59 | abrotman | thinks a !confuse is in order .. but refrains |
| 13:54.40 | BlueG | My logs are getting flooded with "bad: scheduling from the idle thread!", and in a root terminal I got "Message from syslogd@BlueDebian at Oct 15 09:48:38 ... kernel:] deactivate_task+0x1b/0x30" |
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| 13:56.17 | BlueG | What might cause this, and is there a way to keep issues like this (or intentional attacks for that matter) from flooding the logs and filling up my hd? |
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| 13:57.05 | BlueG | I'm running Linux kernel 2.6.26-2-686 |
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| 14:05.36 | Dumb0 | ubuntu is commercial thing, nothing else |
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| 14:07.57 | citrix | I have a box with 4 GB mem but when I run free -m the total mem is 2GB, CIMOS read it 4GB |
| 14:08.27 | rgr | Dumb0: I empathise. Often the #ubuntu channel does not have the same level of expertise as here despite it being a problem which can be solved here. The community often doesn't work cross distro however :-; |
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| 14:09.49 | abrotman | rgr: that is the channel policy. Please don't whine about it. |
| 14:10.00 | themill | rgr: if I had a beer for every time someone tries that on us and it turns out to be a bug in some other distro's packages that aren't in the debian packages thus wasting our time, my liver would be very very unhappy. |
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| 14:13.56 | alleyoopster | Good afternoon all |
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| 14:16.04 | OpenTokix | citrix: is your kernel a 64-bit kernel? |
| 14:16.28 | alleyoopster | I recently have been unable to get on the internet through a E220 Huawei USB 3G modem. Tried with wvdial, network-manager and vodafone application. I get the error Could not determine remote IP address: defaulting to 10.64.64.64 which seems relevant. Anyone tell me how I can troubleshoot this? |
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| 14:18.13 | willemb | Hi |
| 14:18.22 | willemb | is the /etc/udev/rules.d/z45_persistent-net-generator.rules problem debian specific? |
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| 14:18.55 | jelly | willemb: yes. |
| 14:19.00 | willemb | ie, when I replace a nic, how do I get the system to apply the old eth0 settings to the new device without manually changing or deleting that file? |
| 14:19.11 | jelly | !z25 |
| 14:19.11 | dpkg | As of version 0.090, udev has the ability to statically rename Ethernet cards based on MAC address. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules . If you want the mappings to change, edit that file. See also <forcedeth mac>. As of version 0.124-1, the file is called /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules . |
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| 14:19.17 | jelly | willemb: ^^ |
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| 14:19.49 | jelly | you can preemptively delete the generate file |
| 14:19.58 | jelly | generadted* |
| 14:20.11 | willemb | Jelly: Thanks, that won't solve the problem in all cases: |
| 14:20.31 | willemb | if I replace the nic with a totally different one (different chipset), I won't have any networking at all, will I? |
| 14:20.47 | jelly | willemb: well, update your hardware upgrade procedure then :-| |
| 14:21.07 | themill | willemb: "problem" depends on your point of view. It's preferable to have persistent network device names in almost all cases (you don't want two devices to keep swapping which is eth0 and eth1 now do you?) |
| 14:21.07 | alleyoopster | If anyone can help I have a thread on a problem here : http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=46010 thanks |
| 14:21.44 | jelly | themill: I have never seen two eth devices swapping their places. |
| 14:22.03 | themill | jelly: had that problem a lot on this machine when it was running centos, actually. |
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| 14:22.19 | mesaGL | if there is a persistent udev rule, they might |
| 14:22.50 | willemb | themill: Sure, I get that. The issue is when I replace a nic, the new one comes up as eth1, and my carefully configured /etc/network/interfaces is not applied |
| 14:22.52 | jelly | it only changes when Debian decides to change the load module order in initrd AGAIN, or when kernel decides to change the (pci) device enumeration AGAIN |
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| 14:23.12 | themill | willemb: so delete the z25 file when you replace the nic. problem solved. |
| 14:23.29 | mesaGL | willemb: look at /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
| 14:23.36 | hudeia | Hello all! I'm looking for a software giving a way to manage a compatibility matrix between components/sofwtare versions ! I think Debian must use something like that to manage dependecies for instance... Someone know how debian project do it ? |
| 14:23.41 | jelly | themill: "but then I have to remember to do it! Meh!" |
| 14:23.50 | willemb | mesaGL: I know that is where it is done. |
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| 14:24.24 | mesaGL | willemb: so delete the old line. it will fill in the proper line for you next time |
| 14:24.39 | themill | willemb: whenever you swap any hardware on any distro, you should expect to have to reconfigure things. Hell.. on most networks, you've got to reconfigure the switches to even talk to the new mac address too. |
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| 14:29.09 | loiseau | Hello |
| 14:29.18 | loiseau | Need help to solve a VPN issue |
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| 14:29.28 | loiseau | Can somebody help me please |
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| 14:30.10 | ethanol | doesn't touch VPN |
| 14:30.37 | loiseau | I would like to configure a VPN network that allow the VPN server to see all system behind the VPN client |
| 14:30.47 | jelly | hudeia: eh, in Debian the compatibility matrix is implicit, present in the package metadata ("versioned dependencies") |
| 14:30.58 | SlayerXP | loiseau: okay, you have our permission to do so. |
| 14:31.25 | loiseau | Hey! Thanks man |
| 14:31.27 | alleyoopster | can anyone help with the 3G connection issue please? |
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| 14:32.20 | abrotman | loiseau: maybe you'd like to tell us which VPN software you're using ? |
| 14:33.20 | loiseau | I use OpenVPN |
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| 14:35.42 | hudeia | jelly: OK! well all is decentralized. Every package know what other packages version it needs...clever ;-) |
| 14:36.05 | loiseau | here is my configuration |
| 14:36.06 | loiseau | http://paste.debian.net/49182/ |
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| 14:37.27 | loiseau | so! I'm able to ping the client from the VPN server |
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| 14:37.55 | loiseau | I'm about to ping the server from the client using the VPN encrypt IP |
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| 14:46.05 | loiseau | any idea??? |
| 14:46.57 | rdz | hi all. i am willing to enable UTF-8 on my system and i am looking for a guide explaining how to do this. i found http://wiki.debian.org/UTF-8, but the link posted there is broken. hints are appreciated |
| 14:47.34 | abrotman | rdz: are you sure it's not already utf8 ? |
| 14:47.50 | abrotman | rdz: see the note at the bottom about fresh etch installs |
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| 14:48.07 | rdz | abrotman, it was a fresh sarge install back then |
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| 14:48.12 | abrotman | ah ok |
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| 14:48.56 | rdz | abrotman, and i am sure, it's broken.. when typing ° in vim, for instance, and then move the cursor over it, all characters get shifted by one position to the right |
| 14:49.06 | rdz | abrotman, whatever it is now, it is broken |
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| 14:49.47 | abrotman | rdz: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html .. tells you toward the bottom i think? |
| 14:49.47 | rdz | also umlauts 'ä ö ü' don't work correctly.. i am not even sure, if you see what i supposed to type. |
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| 15:00.33 | alleyoopster | Trying again in case some peeps are more awake now. Can anyone help with a PPP connection issue on 3g Huawei usb modem? "could not determine remote IP" in syslog, cant ping servers but it looks like it has connected, any ideas? |
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| 15:10.03 | Aldus | Hi. How can I make an user allowed to read and write everywhere in subfolders and files of his root directory ? The user is "admin" in the group "admins" |
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| 15:10.46 | ranix | Aldus: "his root directory"? |
| 15:10.50 | ranix | you mean his home directory? |
| 15:10.59 | Aldus | yes the one that I set on it with -d |
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| 15:11.31 | macrobat | /home/admin ? |
| 15:11.35 | ranix | chown -R admin:admins /path/to/home/directory |
| 15:11.49 | ranix | be careful you don't have any hard links going up levels before you perform that command |
| 15:11.55 | ranix | it is a somewhat dangerous command |
| 15:12.03 | Aldus | won't this take out permissions from the other users having access in the subdirectories of the home dir ' |
| 15:12.21 | ranix | you might want to read up on permissions |
| 15:12.23 | Aldus | because I used chown on some subdirectories which some users/groups have access to |
| 15:12.34 | Aldus | no hard links by the way |
| 15:12.45 | ranix | !permissions |
| 15:12.46 | dpkg | For more information on permissions, read info coreutils 'File Permissions' and http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions or http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html - for even further info see these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_permission and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod, or follow the setuid and setgid links found in the wikipedia pages, or http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions, or <qotd232> |
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| 15:13.11 | Aldus | I just want to know, if I used chown on one of the subirectories for another user |
| 15:13.27 | Aldus | wouldn't this new chown directive overwrite the previous and make that user unable to enter his folder ? |
| 15:13.31 | ranix | Aldus: you just want someone to read the man pages for you and deliver you bite0sized chunks, you mean |
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| 15:13.58 | Aldus | the solution is always to rtfm |
| 15:14.04 | ranix | not always |
| 15:14.08 | Aldus | almost :) |
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| 15:14.14 | xyan | why isn't there a .so included in the libpthread-stubs0 package version 0.3-1 god damn |
| 15:14.16 | ranix | but in the case of permissions deeper understanding is necessary |
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| 15:14.30 | Aldus | thanks you by the way, if you can just answer my last question I am ok |
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| 15:14.48 | ranix | you can have an admin user own a file the www group is handling by chowning it admin:www |
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| 15:15.13 | ranix | and ensure the group has read/write or whatever else it needs |
| 15:15.19 | ranix | and that others have limited permissions |
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| 15:15.38 | Aldus | ok very good |
| 15:15.48 | JosefAssad | I have an annoying problem. My logs are being absolutely FLOODED with the same message: CPU1: Temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 24235815). When I say flooded, I mean gigabytes. It maxed out my /. Ad no, it isn't in fact overheating. Any bright ideas? |
| 15:15.50 | Aldus | thanks |
| 15:15.59 | salvin | s there a way to get an event for each commit in a server svn? |
| 15:16.09 | peterS | salvin: "an event"? |
| 15:16.32 | ranix | I see a java programmer |
| 15:17.22 | peterS | salvin: you can do pretty much anything in {repository}/hooks/post-commit, which is an executable script (or program, but usually a script) that is run after every successful commit |
| 15:17.45 | simonrvn | xyan: we're not the bts here. file a bug report after you've checked it isn't filed already. |
| 15:17.49 | peterS | make sure it has execute permission |
| 15:17.52 | ranix | JosefAssad: what kind of processor are you using, and what kernel version are you running |
| 15:18.02 | simonrvn | it's a peterS! |
| 15:18.10 | ranix | JosefAssad: it sounds to me like you have a power management bug |
| 15:18.11 | JosefAssad | Linux axisofweevil 2.6.31.1 #2 SMP Wed Sep 30 05:54:11 CEST 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 15:18.17 | peterS | it's a peterS at work! I really shouldn't be here! |
| 15:18.23 | simonrvn | heh |
| 15:18.24 | ranix | judd: versions kernel-image |
| 15:18.25 | judd | ranix: kernel-image -- |
| 15:18.39 | JosefAssad | ranix: I think so too. I'm willing to live with it, I was thinking i could just stop those messages. |
| 15:18.41 | ranix | what's the judd request to check current kernel versions |
| 15:18.45 | simonrvn | kernel-image-2.6 maybe .. |
| 15:18.54 | ranix | judd: versions kernel-image-2.6 |
| 15:18.56 | judd | ranix: kernel-image-2.6 -- |
| 15:19.00 | ranix | judd: versions kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 15:19.01 | judd | ranix: kernel-image-2.6-686 -- etch: 1:2.6.18+6etch3 etch-security: 1:2.6.18+6etch3 |
| 15:19.04 | simonrvn | meh |
| 15:19.11 | peterS | does it take source package names? that would be 'linux-2.6' |
| 15:19.15 | salvin | peterS, thank you very much |
| 15:19.19 | simonrvn | try it |
| 15:19.26 | peterS | judd versions linux-2.6 |
| 15:19.28 | judd | peterS: linux-2.6 -- |
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| 15:19.31 | simonrvn | judd: versions linux-2.6 |
| 15:19.32 | peterS | guess not |
| 15:19.36 | judd | simonrvn: linux-2.6 -- |
| 15:19.38 | simonrvn | :/ |
| 15:19.53 | JosefAssad | maybe booting with noacpi? |
| 15:19.55 | ranix | judd: versions linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 15:19.56 | peterS | install devscripts and use rmadison, then, I guess |
| 15:19.56 | judd | ranix: linux-image-2.6-686 -- etch: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-security: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-backports: 2.6.26+17~bpo40+2 lenny: 2.6.26+17+lenny1 lenny-backports: 2.6.30+20~bpo50+1 sid: 2.6.30+21 squeeze: 2.6.30+21 |
| 15:20.10 | ranix | JosefAssad: bingo, you have a custom kernel. Even lenny does not appear to have a 2.6.31 |
| 15:20.12 | peterS | huh. it doesn't know about experimental. |
| 15:20.21 | peterS | (which does have 2.6.31) |
| 15:20.21 | JosefAssad | ranix: Oh yes, it _is_ custom. |
| 15:20.39 | simonrvn | aah |
| 15:20.41 | xyan | simonrvn: well would like to do so, can't be bothered to do that using lynx on a vt. thats a bit painful :/ |
| 15:20.52 | simonrvn | peterS: it does but doesn't always list them :/ |
| 15:21.01 | ranix | JosefAssad: sounds like you should report that upstream. You can grep for that error string in the kernel source to find out what module exactly is causing your problem |
| 15:21.05 | simonrvn | xyan: aptitude install reportbug |
| 15:21.17 | simonrvn | xyan: querybts sourpackagename |
| 15:21.21 | simonrvn | source* |
| 15:21.28 | xyan | simonrvn: great, thanks |
| 15:21.34 | JosefAssad | ranix: I intend to do that, but right now I want to avoid waking up in the morning with a full / |
| 15:22.05 | ranix | JosefAssad: find what module is causing your problem by grepping the source for your error string and disable that module or revert to the version from an earlier tree |
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| 15:23.15 | ranix | (if you can't do that you should revert to a debian binary kernel, imho, but I might have an invalid opinion) |
| 15:23.22 | peterS | huh. 'linux-image-2.6-686' does not exist in experimental at all. I guess because it's not in the linux-2.6 package but in linux-defaults or some such. |
| 15:23.37 | peterS | judd versions linux-image-2.6.31-trunk-686 |
| 15:23.38 | judd | peterS: linux-image-2.6.31-trunk-686 -- experimental: 2.6.31-1~experimental.1 |
| 15:23.41 | peterS | there we go |
| 15:23.44 | ranix | bingo |
| 15:23.47 | simonrvn | ah ha |
| 15:23.51 | abrotman | judd: kernels |
| 15:23.53 | JosefAssad | ranix: or noacpi on the kernel command line might also work, I'm guessing |
| 15:23.53 | judd | abrotman: Available kernel versions are: trunk: 2.6.31-rc6-686 (2.6.31~rc6-1~experimental.1~snapshot.14160); sid: 2.6.30-2-686 (2.6.30-8); squeeze: 2.6.30-2-686 (2.6.30-8); lenny-backports: 2.6.30-bpo.2-686 (2.6.30-7~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-17); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.8etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-24) |
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| 15:24.41 | simonrvn | even better |
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| 15:29.13 | ranix | aaah |
| 15:29.16 | ranix | will have to remember that |
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| 15:32.05 | Zambezi | I tried Squeeze now, but I'm back in Lenny. Some things is annoying. No rxvt-unicode for example. Xorg didn't create a xorg.conf so graphic was a bit mess. I didn't have a proper webbrowser so I'm doing the checkups here. |
| 15:33.46 | Titan8990 | Zambezi, xorg should no longer need a xorg.conf unless proprietary drivers are in use since the inclusion of HAL support |
| 15:34.40 | Titan8990 | Zambezi, rxvt-unicode is available in lenny and a variety of web browsers are also available |
| 15:34.42 | astartoth | I had to make : Xorg -configure |
| 15:34.45 | Zambezi | Titan8990: I used open source, but I guess I need one later anyway since I have two monitors. |
| 15:35.07 | Titan8990 | Zambezi, yes, special configuration such as dual head will need a xorg.conf |
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| 15:36.41 | Zambezi | Titan8990: rxvt-unicode in Lenny and Sid yes, but not in Squeeze. And I said a proper browser (which is Fx 3.5.3, not ancient Iceweasel). |
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| 15:37.48 | Titan8990 | Zambezi, firefox is not the only browser... there is also opera, midori, and chrome |
| 15:38.17 | Titan8990 | Zambezi, you can use ssb method to install sid's urxvt in squeeze |
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| 15:39.52 | jelly | Titan8990: is there chrome for Linux yet? |
| 15:40.02 | Zambezi | Titan8990: That was new for me about Midori for example. I'm going to check it out next time I boot to Squeeze cause I prefer it. |
| 15:40.14 | Zambezi | jelly: Yes. Even one working with Lenny. |
| 15:40.34 | jelly | note: chrome, the finished product, not chromium |
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| 15:42.44 | Titan8990 | jelly, still in beta, deb package are available |
| 15:43.17 | Titan8990 | I have been using it for about a month with the only issue being the occasional failure to properly render slashdot.org |
| 15:43.18 | astartoth | deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable main |
| 15:44.17 | ranix | is slashdot even w3c compliant? |
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| 15:44.29 | ranix | they do some pretty fucked up div acrobatics |
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| 15:44.39 | Zambezi | Or Chrome here: http://dev.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel#TOC-Linux |
| 15:44.45 | abrotman | oh jeez |
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| 15:46.11 | Titan8990 | Zambezi, chromium is not the same as chrome |
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| 15:47.16 | Zambezi | Titan8990: At least it says Google Chrome when I start it. |
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| 15:48.49 | spldart | Wow.. google chrome just installed right up on lenny using google-chrome-unstable_current_i386.deb |
| 15:49.12 | cahoot | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:51.18 | Titan8990 | Zambezi, im sure its very similar... like virtualbox and virtualbox-ose |
| 15:53.22 | Zambezi | Titan8990: No idea. I just need two different browsers. |
| 15:53.34 | hounddog | gnarface you there? |
| 15:54.41 | hounddog | or here... is there something like a control panel which i can install into debian like plesk? |
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| 15:55.05 | hounddog | well not plesk... don't like plesk if anyone has an alternative |
| 15:56.02 | at0m | ranix: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slashdot.org%2F |
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| 15:56.42 | Titan8990 | hounddog, google will probably be your best bet as most of those are commercial applications |
| 15:57.05 | hounddog | hmm |
| 15:57.34 | hounddog | Titan8990 just thinking if i go for Centos with plesk or Debian... have some options in my server where i can choose |
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| 15:59.10 | Titan8990 | hounddog, DirectAdmin and ccpanel are the only ones i know of other than plesk |
| 15:59.23 | hounddog | hmmm i am just looking at gnupanel |
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| 15:59.47 | Titan8990 | when I had a VPS it used directadmin, was pretty nice even though i didn't need to do anything with it other than reboot server |
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| 16:00.12 | hounddog | just for doing some automation |
| 16:00.47 | Titan8990 | hounddog, are you doing shared hosting or VPS? |
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| 16:01.31 | hounddog | Dedicated server |
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| 16:01.53 | Titan8990 | ah |
| 16:02.12 | hounddog | and have multiple options for a os |
| 16:02.32 | hounddog | I know centos is quite a lot in use these days |
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| 16:03.10 | Titan8990 | debian and centos are both perfectly suitable for a production server. use what your most comfortable with |
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| 16:03.52 | hounddog | just thinking, am a bit rusty in server administration but have to setup svn etc |
| 16:04.10 | hounddog | and with centos i know that the packages are often outdated |
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| 16:06.10 | Titan8990 | hounddog, bleeding edge packages will never be found in a stability oriented distro like centos or debian |
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| 16:06.19 | Titan8990 | and for good reason |
| 16:06.22 | Muli|CTGR | hey fellas |
| 16:06.49 | hounddog | Titan8990 you mean svn should not be there? |
| 16:06.50 | Muli|CTGR | working with a debian distro, and I need to have a core image, so I can mirror to about (30) workstations |
| 16:06.56 | Muli|CTGR | any recommendations? |
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| 16:07.16 | ascii158 | http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ |
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| 16:07.28 | Titan8990 | !tell Muli|CTGR about apt-mirror |
| 16:07.34 | Titan8990 | Muli|CTGR, check your pm from dpkg |
| 16:07.41 | Muli|CTGR | Titan8990, the thing is |
| 16:07.51 | Muli|CTGR | this is Untangle, which is based on the debian kernal |
| 16:07.57 | the-dude | Muli|CTGR: or pxe boot with preseed files |
| 16:08.26 | Titan8990 | Muli|CTGR, then your in the wrong channel |
| 16:08.42 | ascii158 | take a look at http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ |
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| 16:08.47 | Muli|CTGR | i'm using acronis, but the process takes forever for 40GB |
| 16:08.51 | McL0VIN | i can telnet to my switch from inside my LAN, but i can't from outside! it times out |
| 16:08.54 | McL0VIN | i have port 23 forward to my switch ip! |
| 16:09.04 | McL0VIN | ascii158: are you still here |
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| 16:09.22 | ascii158 | no, I left in the meantime |
| 16:09.28 | Amorphous | hi. i installed dnscache-run to have a local dns resolver (so i can resolve an vpn-internal .local tld without resolving the rest of the internet over the vpn). it works except that ping bla.local doesn't work but dig bla.local does and host bla.local does, too. anyone any idea? |
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| 16:10.32 | Moon_Doggy | installing debain using this guide http://www.go2linux.org/installing-a-light-linux-operating-system-debian-fluxbox and i'm stuck a startx |
| 16:10.59 | Titan8990 | Moon_Doggy, you should use the official guide |
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| 16:11.46 | Titan8990 | Moon_Doggy, what happens when you try to startx? |
| 16:12.17 | Moon_Doggy | -bash: startx: command not found |
| 16:12.54 | Titan8990 | Moon_Doggy, aptitude install xinit |
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| 16:13.24 | Titan8990 | Moon_Doggy, to find that on your own next time: aptitude install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file find startx |
| 16:14.28 | Muli|CTGR | Titan8990, if it means anything, I was directed to look at clonezilla for this process |
| 16:14.37 | Moon_Doggy | ty titan8990 |
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| 16:15.23 | Titan8990 | Muli|CTGR, if your just wanting to copy all the data from one hdd to another, clonezilla is fine |
| 16:15.38 | Titan8990 | but I would not be using a livecd like that to manually copy 30 hard drives |
| 16:15.40 | Muli|CTGR | i tried with acronis |
| 16:16.01 | Titan8990 | acronis is $1000 commercial app that won't be supported here.... |
| 16:16.07 | Muli|CTGR | and for 40gb backup, it took over 90min |
| 16:16.23 | Muli|CTGR | we own acronis here |
| 16:16.23 | Titan8990 | then use dd |
| 16:16.31 | McL0VIN | i can ssh to my debian box fine, then i can telnet from my Debian box to my switch a@192.168.1.102 and that works fine , but i can't telnet directly to my Switch! Why? |
| 16:16.54 | Titan8990 | McL0VIN, security feature that does allow sessions from remote subnets? |
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| 16:17.01 | Titan8990 | s/does/doesn't |
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| 16:17.31 | Muli|CTGR | Titan8990, can I dd to a remote server share? |
| 16:17.35 | Titan8990 | McL0VIN, if it has IOS 12.2+ you should consider using ssh on the switch too (assuming its cisco) |
| 16:17.36 | McL0VIN | Titan8990: is that in my Router? |
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| 16:17.44 | Muli|CTGR | then on back to the local workstations |
| 16:17.54 | Titan8990 | Muli|CTGR, no, you can only interact with the block devices |
| 16:18.03 | Muli|CTGR | ahhh, hrmg |
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| 16:18.13 | Muli|CTGR | what about dd to external usb hdd |
| 16:18.17 | jsjc | is there anywhere where I can find a linux-image for 2.6.31 amd64 nicely packed for dpkg? |
| 16:18.25 | Titan8990 | Muli|CTGR, thats fine |
| 16:18.42 | Titan8990 | judd, versions linux-image-686 |
| 16:18.43 | judd | Titan8990: linux-image-686 -- etch: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-security: 2.6.18+6etch3 etch-backports: 2.6.26+17~bpo40+2 lenny: 2.6.26+17+lenny1 lenny-backports: 2.6.30+20~bpo50+1 sid: 2.6.30+21 squeeze: 2.6.30+21 |
| 16:18.46 | McL0VIN | Titan8990: it is a 2950 , and i am runningand i am running 12.1 |
| 16:18.52 | Titan8990 | jsjc, doesn't look it |
| 16:19.13 | Titan8990 | McL0VIN, same as my 2900... telnet only |
| 16:19.32 | jsjc | argh.. its sad I was getting excited ! |
| 16:19.39 | McL0VIN | Titan8990: so am i stuck |
| 16:19.46 | jsjc | any expectatons when we could get one? |
| 16:20.04 | Titan8990 | McL0VIN, nmap scan the port and see if show open |
| 16:20.12 | McL0VIN | Titan8990: btw there is ver 12.2 out, but i am still new to cisco so i am taking it step-by-step |
| 16:20.23 | giacomo_c | ok, i need some help, i keep getting a message from synaptic that says i've broken my software index |
| 16:20.24 | Titan8990 | McL0VIN, then you can determine if the remote subnet is the problem or if it is still a NAT issue |
| 16:20.41 | Titan8990 | McL0VIN, IOS upgrade costs like $2000 or something really stupid |
| 16:20.55 | giacomo_c | i've tried running 'apt-get install -f' and all it tells me is it can't remove a couple of old kernels/headers: http://pastebin.com/m18d743bd |
| 16:21.06 | giacomo_c | does anyone know how to fix this? |
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| 16:21.27 | Titan8990 | giacomo_c, where did you get that kernel? |
| 16:21.32 | McL0VIN | Titan8990: nmap from the switch |
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| 16:21.36 | jelly | judd: versions xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 16:21.37 | judd | jelly: xserver-xorg-video-intel -- etch: 2:2.2.1-1~etchnhalf2 lenny: 2:2.3.2-2+lenny6 sid: 2:2.9.0-1 squeeze: 2:2.9.0-1 |
| 16:21.44 | Amorphous | avahi-daemon breaks my resolving and pulseaudio pulls it in :( |
| 16:22.26 | giacomo_c | ok, i'll admit that im running ubuntu :( but i installed a custom kernel a while back for some reason or another, and now i guess ubuntu does not like this |
| 16:22.29 | jelly | Amorphous: get rid of mdns in /etc/msswitch.conf ... voila |
| 16:22.41 | jelly | /etc/nsswitch.conf, sorry, Amorphous |
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| 16:23.05 | Amorphous | jelly, thank you! |
| 16:23.23 | jelly | hosts: files dns |
| 16:23.32 | Amorphous | hates this new stuff that fails to do the sane thing |
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| 16:27.02 | kraut | moin |
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| 16:29.04 | giacomo_c | could i switch to debian just by changing my repos from the ubuntu ones? |
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| 16:30.06 | ascii158 | it would work, but i think it would be very much easier to reinstall |
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| 16:31.23 | giacomo_c | why would it be easier? |
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| 16:32.21 | ascii158 | i think you would have dependency-issues, that would be difficultto solve |
| 16:32.41 | giacomo_c | hmmm, i see |
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| 16:35.47 | giacomo_c | is lenny still the best bet, i ran lenny for a few months last year and it seemed nice |
| 16:36.25 | giacomo_c | it was a rc then i think |
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| 16:38.59 | abrotman | ascii158: no it would not work |
| 16:39.07 | abrotman | giacomo_c: if you want to go to Debian, you'll reinstall |
| 16:39.26 | abrotman | giacomo_c: and if you want ubuntu support you will go to #ubuntu |
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| 16:40.37 | giacomo_c | no one there seems to be able to help me, sorry for invading your irc room |
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| 16:41.23 | sash_ | didnt get it, logged in too late. did he want to change from ubuntu to debian without reinstallation? O.o |
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| 16:42.42 | Titan8990 | sash_, yes |
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| 16:48.27 | jpinx-eeepc | is there a way to have more than one user running an X session - one local and one-or-more ssh -X connection ? Or do I have to build a multi-head system? |
| 16:48.59 | ascii158 | there can be as many ssh -X as you like |
| 16:49.34 | jpinx-eeepc | ascii158: but they can't - apparently - all run X at the same time - or am I missing something? |
| 16:49.58 | ascii158 | if you connect with -X there is no X-server started or anything |
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| 16:50.15 | mezgani | sorry |
| 16:50.17 | Supaplex | as in each running a full desktop? |
| 16:50.21 | ascii158 | ssh just builds a tunnel and sets DISPLAY to localhost:whatever |
| 16:50.24 | mezgani | i need some help about apache |
| 16:50.26 | Titan8990 | jpinx-eeepc, I have never done ssh -X but i think it might be related to DISPLAY |
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| 16:50.33 | Supaplex | !tell mezgani -about ask |
| 16:50.39 | mezgani | i setup apache to over ssl |
| 16:50.43 | ascii158 | and then you can start a program and it will connect to the DISPLAY |
| 16:50.48 | mezgani | but when i browse my website i got an error |
| 16:50.51 | ascii158 | which is then forwarded to your local host |
| 16:50.59 | mezgani | Can't connect securely because the site uses an older, insecure version of the SSL protocol. (Error code: ssl_error_ssl2_disabled) |
| 16:51.12 | ascii158 | and users can start as many programs as the machine can hold |
| 16:51.14 | jpinx-eeepc | Titan8990: ok - where do i read up about enabling multiple remote displays? |
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| 16:51.49 | Titan8990 | jpinx-eeepc, no idea, i was just saying that based on other people I have observed with similar issues in this room |
| 16:52.07 | jpinx-eeepc | ascii158: that is not working - i am ssh -x 'd into a box on the other side of the room and I can not run remote X applications |
| 16:52.09 | jelly | jpinx-eeepc: what are you trying to do? |
| 16:52.19 | ascii158 | what is the error you get? |
| 16:52.25 | ruben23 | hi |
| 16:52.49 | angasuleAway | jpinx-eeepc: ssh -x is the opposite of ssh -X |
| 16:53.39 | angasuleAway | likes long options for scripts and tutorials |
| 16:54.23 | jpinx-eeepc | jelly - when I do ssh -X (not -x , typo'd) I get " .Xauthority not writable, changes will be ignored |
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| 16:54.51 | jpinx-eeepc | angasuleAway: thanks for the headsup on the typo :) |
| 16:54.52 | jelly | jpinx-eeepc: investigate why ~/.Xauthority is not writable on the remote machine |
| 16:55.00 | ascii158 | do you have write-permission to the home-directory? |
| 16:55.28 | angasuleAway | jpinx-eeepc: np :) I think it's a horrible choice of options |
| 16:55.55 | jelly | jpinx-eeepc: the file may have ended up being owned by root if su or sudo were used carelessly |
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| 16:57.25 | angasuleAway | I did some pretty funny X forwarding once, with 3 or 4 hops, including a parallel cable, funny, but not too useful |
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| 16:57.56 | Supaplex | that's where ssh compression comes in handy too. :) |
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| 17:01.12 | jpinx-eeepc | jelly - kudos to jelly kq ssssss |
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| 17:03.21 | jelly | jpinx-eeepc: if $HOME is left unchanged when you become root, bad things can happen. Use "su -" with su, or rtfm for sudo |
| 17:03.33 | jpinx-eeepc | jelly: now when I log in I get /usr/bin/X11/xauth: error in locking authority file /home/johnp/.Xauthority |
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| 17:04.10 | jelly | jpinx-eeepc: there's a lock file in the vicinity. Its name escapes me. |
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| 17:04.14 | jpinx-eeepc | jelly: I'm not using su or sudo - no need - I log in as user |
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| 17:04.33 | jelly | jpinx-eeepc: that root owned file didn't get chowned by itself. |
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| 17:05.11 | jpinx-eeepc | jelly - I have no idea how that got to be owned by root - it's an old install and not used much till now[3~[3~[3~[3~a |
| 17:05.43 | jpinx-eeepc | maybe I need to make a new installation, or will update/grade fix it? |
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| 17:07.55 | jpinx-eeepc | jelly - when I su another user in that box, and try running an X app (vlc) I get "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication." |
| 17:08.24 | jpinx-eeepc | so where are X11 connections authenticated? |
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| 17:09.19 | toolz | hi can I use netblocks instead of an IP when I try to block using iptables? |
| 17:09.19 | toolz | to do it like, iptables -A INPUT -s xxx.xxx.xxx.0/24 -j DROP |
| 17:09.27 | jelly | jpinx-eeepc: that is expected. Why do you not log in to the correct user right away? |
| 17:09.59 | jpinx-eeepc | I did - and got the first error |
| 17:10.28 | ascii158 | toolz: that would work |
| 17:10.29 | jelly | jpinx-eeepc: sorry, what first error? |
| 17:10.38 | toolz | ok thanks |
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| 17:10.49 | GMF | hi all, i have a question |
| 17:11.11 | jelly | jpinx-eeepc: xauth: error in locking authority file /home/johnp/.Xauthority ? |
| 17:11.12 | GMF | after trying to install a package on my debian i get this error |
| 17:11.13 | GMF | relocation error: /lib/tls/libc.so.6: symbol _dl_out_of_memory, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference |
| 17:11.20 | GMF | did anyone ever see this ? |
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| 17:11.40 | jelly | GMF: was that package created for that exact Debian release? |
| 17:11.51 | GMF | I dont know |
| 17:11.52 | GMF | i think not |
| 17:11.57 | GMF | or i dont know |
| 17:12.01 | GMF | i used apt-get to install it |
| 17:12.04 | jelly | GMF: ask whoever made the package. |
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| 17:12.14 | GMF | look |
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| 17:12.33 | GMF | I was trying to install rsync |
| 17:12.37 | GMF | and it needs some deps |
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| 17:12.48 | jelly | GMF: which package is it? pastebin "apt-cache policy packagename", also pastebin "dpkg -l libc6 packagename | tail -n 2" |
| 17:12.59 | GMF | i can't run any of this command |
| 17:13.14 | GMF | ~# apt-cache policy rsync |
| 17:13.15 | GMF | apt-cache: relocation error: /lib/tls/libc.so.6: symbol _dl_out_of_memory, version GLIBC_PRIVATE not defined in file ld-linux.so.2 with link time reference |
| 17:13.37 | jelly | GMF: does dpkg work? |
| 17:13.43 | GMF | while updating i saw this output from apt: Removing libc6-dev ... |
| 17:14.05 | GMF | after this output it E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 17:14.05 | GMF | and i can't do anything |
| 17:14.08 | GMF | i'm connected trough ssh to the machine |
| 17:14.17 | jelly | GMF: you seem to have messed up your libc6. |
| 17:14.18 | GMF | jelly, no, dpkg wont work atm |
| 17:14.27 | jelly | GMF: does tar work? |
| 17:14.29 | GMF | jelly, yes seems so |
| 17:14.33 | GMF | no |
| 17:14.37 | jelly | GMF: do you have busybox installed? |
| 17:14.46 | GMF | i think not |
| 17:14.54 | GMF | i don't use it |
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| 17:15.31 | jelly | GMF: you're fucked, boot a livecd, get the proper libc6 package from a mirror and unpack it on your system using the livecd dpkg, or using ar and tar. |
| 17:15.37 | hark | GMF: did you have to type "do as i say" or similar? |
| 17:15.45 | jpinx-eeepc | jelly - I've checked sshd_config too and it is all enabled for Xforwarding |
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| 17:16.03 | jelly | jpinx-eeepc: I already knew that! |
| 17:16.03 | jpinx-eeepc | jelly: when I do ssh -X johnp@192.168.1.37 xeyes -- the eyes work |
| 17:16.09 | GMF | jelly, it's a remote server |
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| 17:17.00 | jelly | GMF: make someone do that for you then, or use lights-out/remote management, or go there |
| 17:17.16 | _echa | hi, does anyone have experience with alpine+gnupg? |
| 17:17.31 | GMF | jelly, how can I find out wich version of libc6 was there ? |
| 17:17.52 | jelly | GMF: depends on the debian release installed |
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| 17:18.00 | jelly | judd: versions libc6 |
| 17:18.01 | judd | jelly: libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch9+b1 lenny: 2.7-18 squeeze: 2.9-25 sid: 2.9-27 |
| 17:18.03 | GMF | it was sarge debian i think, but im not so sure |
| 17:18.36 | GMF | can I swear? |
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| 17:18.41 | GMF | *#!@ :| |
| 17:18.46 | GMF | fuck |
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| 17:19.08 | jelly | GMF: well, you'll have to inspect /etc/debian_version, /etc/apt/sources.list and other packages' versions to find out which debian it was |
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| 17:20.59 | jelly | probably a system not updated for a long time, and it had "stable" in its /etc/apt/sources.list, and installing "just one package" made a mess |
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| 17:21.47 | jelly | GMF: if you have managed backups, you might tell your backup people to restore the machine from last night or so |
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| 17:22.21 | jpinx-eeepc | jelly - chmod 0600 for those fixed it :) Thanks:) |
| 17:23.01 | jpinx-eeepc | now to get wine applications to run over ssh-X |
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| 17:24.21 | jelly | GMF: you might want to adjust your systems to have a statically-linked fat shell like busybox or sash installed, for the next time something like this happens |
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| 17:24.59 | GMF | i need to know what to do about that |
| 17:25.04 | SparFux | Hi all. I notice there is the mechanism of ifupdown to start progs after connection gets established and at the same time there is pppd ip-up.d mechanism. My question is why there is not only the more generally useful /etc/network/if-up.d mechanism? I can start everything there and then it does not matter wether it is pppoe or diretcly routed or whatever. |
| 17:25.05 | GMF | i never setted up something like that |
| 17:25.20 | GMF | how does busybox work ? |
| 17:25.26 | GMF | it run before my system load up ? |
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| 17:25.50 | jelly | GMF: it has compiled-in simple versions of many utilities, like gzip, tar, ar or netcat |
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| 17:26.09 | zleap | i think busybox is a window manager, it loads with the Xwindow system (xorg) |
| 17:26.27 | sash_ | zleap: absolutely not :D |
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| 17:26.51 | jelly | GMF: at this point, with a broken libc, you just run /sbin/busybox-static or something and be able to patch things up |
| 17:26.53 | sash_ | zleap: you mean openbox or fluxbox |
| 17:26.58 | zleap | ok |
| 17:26.59 | zleap | sorry |
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| 17:27.51 | zleap | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BusyBox |
| 17:28.09 | zleap | ok just googled it, (sorry for the error above) |
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| 17:28.46 | GMF | jelly, I still have a shell opened, if i reboot the system it will dead forever right ? |
| 17:28.50 | GMF | *death |
| 17:29.02 | GMF | *die lol |
| 17:29.10 | jelly | GMF: init won't start, so that's correct |
| 17:29.26 | GMF | shit |
| 17:29.35 | GMF | it is a big mess |
| 17:29.36 | GMF | really... |
| 17:29.50 | jelly | GMF: the initramfs environment still works, but you can't do much from inside that |
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| 17:30.09 | Titan8990 | just had his first google chrome crash |
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| 17:33.25 | NetEcho | lenny is testing right? |
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| 17:34.02 | helo_ | ls |
| 17:34.05 | helo_ | heh doh |
| 17:34.06 | jelly | GMF: just for fun, can you do "while read line < /etc/debian_version; do echo "$line"; done" |
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| 17:34.39 | jelly | GMF: fuck, don't do that just yet |
| 17:34.49 | jelly | afk |
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| 17:35.05 | helo_ | anyone know how to enable file-level nfs logging? |
| 17:35.50 | hark | NetEcho: no |
| 17:35.54 | catsup_ | helo_: you might want to try snooping on that traffic with ngrep or tcpdump or such |
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| 17:37.43 | catsup_ | GMF: haha, your problem is awesome |
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| 17:37.53 | catsup_ | GMF: don't let any processes exit! |
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| 17:38.04 | GMF | lol catsup_, is not that funny :p |
| 17:38.12 | GMF | jelly :) 3.1 |
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| 17:38.30 | catsup_ | it's a real challenge if you really want to recover without some lame livecd solution |
| 17:38.53 | GMF | catsup_, i feel so, I'm trying to figure out what the evil to do |
| 17:38.54 | GMF | lol |
| 17:38.59 | catsup_ | like maybe you can fetch libc out of a running process's image in memory |
| 17:39.06 | mee | hooray for shell builtins |
| 17:39.22 | mee | saving the world one rm -fr / at a time |
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| 17:39.33 | GMF | catsup_, a solution could be to run something in memory in way to get and copy the libc |
| 17:39.34 | catsup_ | or easier than that use a running process with some sort of 'eval' capability to restore the libc |
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| 17:40.10 | ascii158 | or you copy the still open libc from another process |
| 17:40.12 | catsup_ | all you need is something that can access the network & write a file |
| 17:40.15 | catsup_ | oh right |
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| 17:40.25 | catsup_ | if the libc file itself is open you can get the filehandle from proc |
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| 17:40.56 | GMF | do you think the file /lib/tls/libc.so.6 is just what the system is missing ? |
| 17:42.08 | catsup_ | no |
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| 17:43.10 | catsup_ | but that may be a solution |
| 17:43.19 | catsup_ | http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/IA64wiki/libc_tls_support |
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| 17:44.09 | catsup_ | maybe you can get a process to use the TLS libc to get your libc back |
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| 17:46.01 | giacomo_c | can i just use an old lenny rc cd to install and then update to the current release? |
| 17:46.08 | wildc4rd | evening all |
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| 17:47.18 | hark | giacomo_c: it might not install, you can try |
| 17:47.58 | giacomo_c | oh, well i guess i'll just download the newest cd |
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| 17:48.48 | phobos | giacomo_c: you should beable to do that with an old lenny disk without much trouble |
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| 17:49.10 | giacomo_c | oh |
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| 17:49.59 | GMF | catsup_, any idea ? |
| 17:50.42 | hark | giacomo_c: in case you get the 5% error, /msg dpkg 5% error |
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| 17:51.21 | giacomo_c | during the installation? |
| 17:52.00 | abrotman | it just gets stuck |
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| 17:52.01 | kury | Does anyone know how to make scsi drives statically named based on they're physically connected port? (like how /dev/hd* drives order based on physical connection) |
| 17:52.17 | giacomo_c | is sid the experimental release, still? |
| 17:52.30 | mesaGL | no |
| 17:52.33 | giacomo_c | oh |
| 17:52.36 | vezult | giacomo_c: it's the unstable release, and always is |
| 17:52.38 | mesaGL | sid is unstable |
| 17:52.43 | giacomo_c | ahhh, i forget easy |
| 17:52.58 | giacomo_c | last time i installed debian, i ended up using sid over the lenny rc1 |
| 17:53.06 | somiaj | sid has always been unstable...experimental has never been a full release or even os, it is just a collection of packages that haven't been tested enough to put them into sid |
| 17:53.18 | vezult | giacomo_c: the names for the stable and testing releases change, but not unstable |
| 17:53.25 | giacomo_c | ahhh |
| 17:54.25 | jill | hi |
| 17:55.05 | giacomo_c | im gonna go give this a try then, hopefully everything will go smoothly, sorta |
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| 17:55.19 | somiaj | giacomo_c: debian stable is keeping up a bit more than it use to. The current state of lenny 5.0 is modern enough that I would suggest just sticking with lenny unless you really know how to manage your computer |
| 17:55.26 | jelly-home | GMF: anyway |
| 17:55.34 | giacomo_c | i probably will somiaj |
| 17:55.37 | somiaj | giacomo_c: sid could break things and unless you are prepared for that I would stay away from it |
| 17:55.47 | GMF | jelly, tell me |
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| 17:56.00 | jelly-home | GMF: just go to the damn datacenter with a livecd :-) |
| 17:56.10 | GMF | lol |
| 17:56.16 | GMF | ill try that :p |
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| 17:56.40 | giacomo_c | i just remember when i was usuing lenny rc1, there were a lot of things i wanted to be able to do, and program versions i wanted to use, that weren't available outside of the unstable/experimental repos, though there were very few things i actually needed from the repos |
| 17:57.12 | giacomo_c | i'll just stick to lenny, unless i feel the need to chance ruining my system |
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| 17:57.59 | jelly-home | GMF: and a stick with a copy of http://archive.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6_2.3.2.ds1-22sarge6_i386.deb |
| 17:58.02 | giacomo_c | anyway, im going to go see if this old cd will work |
| 17:58.05 | giacomo_c | peace! |
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| 17:59.04 | shad0w | hi everyone |
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| 18:00.32 | shad0w | i would like to enable font antialiasing and subpixer rendering,with the help of fonts.conf |
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| 18:00.56 | sola | can some one help, how to use debian-installer on a system without CD/DVD drive |
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| 18:01.25 | jelly-home | GMF: you have to mess a system like this once, so you'll remember well to install something like sash or busybox-static on your machines |
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| 18:01.53 | jelly-home | GMF: ... or use proper hardware that can be remote booted from an iso image and has remote console access |
| 18:02.22 | jelly-home | loves iLO |
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| 18:08.50 | GMF | I called the hosting provider |
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| 18:08.53 | GMF | tomorrow morning i will be there to fix it |
| 18:10.04 | dustybin | how can i time how long a command runs for? |
| 18:10.17 | dustybin | ie, i need to do a rsync but would need to find out how long it took |
| 18:10.20 | xand | dustybin: time |
| 18:10.29 | xand | "time somecommand" |
| 18:10.38 | dustybin | time rsync bla |
| 18:10.40 | xand | yes |
| 18:10.43 | dustybin | ace :D |
| 18:10.53 | dustybin | time echo "thanks xand" |
| 18:11.04 | dustybin | thanks xand! |
| 18:11.04 | dustybin | real0m0.001s |
| 18:11.04 | dustybin | user0m0.000s |
| 18:11.04 | dustybin | sys0m0.000s |
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| 18:11.09 | xand | fool |
| 18:11.11 | qbwdp | ban quick |
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| 18:11.24 | xand | cleans dustybin |
| 18:11.46 | dustybin | real0m0.001s <=== 1 milli second? |
| 18:12.14 | xand | yes |
| 18:12.16 | dustybin | ace |
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| 18:12.56 | GMF | I go home |
| 18:13.05 | sphenxes | hi, i am using xtightvnc and would like to add password. man page is only for vncviewer and the password is supposed to be in .vnc. i can't find .vnc. where can I add a password to xtight vnc |
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| 18:17.20 | sioux_ | how i install ethernet model 3com 3c2000-t on debian lenny ? |
| 18:17.54 | helo_ | what can i do to prevent idle ssh sessions from timing out? |
| 18:18.49 | zleap | not sure, do you need to stay logged in |
| 18:19.02 | cahoot | isn't there a keepalive option? |
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| 18:32.04 | catsup_ | helo_: set ServerAliveInterval to nonzero |
| 18:32.37 | catsup_ | or rather, to a positive value less than your idle timeout |
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| 18:36.25 | Newbie16 | hi |
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| 18:37.01 | Newbie16 | its been a while since i've installed debian, has an installer for installing directly into debian sid been made available? |
| 18:38.13 | abrotman | yes and no .. |
| 18:38.22 | abrotman | just use the netinst and go from there |
| 18:38.30 | giacomo_c | whats the easiest way to findout what the mountpoints are for each partition? |
| 18:38.57 | catsup_ | Newbie16: i use grml.org for that |
| 18:39.00 | jelly-home | giacomo_c: df |
| 18:39.05 | giacomo_c | i have a partition for /home and another partition for / but i can't remember which one is which |
| 18:39.16 | jelly-home | giacomo_c: /etc/fstab |
| 18:39.19 | giacomo_c | oh gosh |
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| 18:39.29 | giacomo_c | df did it |
| 18:39.32 | catsup_ | jelly-home: i was going to say 'mount' but i think 'df' is indeed easier (by 3 characters) |
| 18:39.44 | Newbie16 | catsup_ and abrotman; thanks |
| 18:39.50 | jelly-home | mount's output format sucks |
| 18:40.12 | abrotman | catsup_: you do know you don't have to do that, right? |
| 18:40.33 | jelly-home | abrotman: but grml.org is so nice |
| 18:40.43 | abrotman | lovely website, really is |
| 18:40.59 | catsup_ | /bin/df -Pm|sed -e 1d|sort -nk2|column -t|sed -e 's/ \( *\)/\1/g' |
| 18:41.00 | jelly-home | the products if theirs too |
| 18:41.10 | jelly-home | s/if/of/ |
| 18:41.17 | catsup_ | abrotman: do what? |
| 18:41.42 | jelly-home | abrotman: they even have a wrapper for debootstrap so you just point and shoot at an empty mountpoint |
| 18:42.14 | catsup_ | oh, use grml |
| 18:42.34 | jelly-home | really, debian should just forgo their livecd efforts and adopt grml |
| 18:42.51 | catsup_ | grml uses debian-live |
| 18:43.02 | abrotman | catsup_: use grml .. there is a debian way to directly install unstable |
| 18:43.10 | catsup_ | right |
| 18:43.20 | jelly-home | abrotman: and it sucks! |
| 18:43.48 | abrotman | jelly-home: not really that bad .. you kids whine too much |
| 18:44.14 | vlt | vlt: Note to myself (and jelly): When you ever again want to spend a whole day trying to get saned running just care that there's no forward DNS entry for the client trying to access saned. omg! |
| 18:44.18 | jelly-home | abrotman: I can't remember the darn boot options... so it must be illogical enough |
| 18:44.33 | abrotman | jelly-home: you mean like when it asks you? |
| 18:45.00 | jelly-home | vlt: you got pwned by tcp_wrappers! |
| 18:45.21 | jelly-home | abrotman: I don't remember that part either. |
| 18:46.23 | vlt | jelly-home: Seems so. Don't understand why a _forward_ DNS entry solves the problem (there's still no reverse entry for the client) ... |
| 18:46.48 | jelly-home | vlt: that makes very little sense indeed |
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| 18:47.20 | jelly-home | vlt: blog about it, so google will know as well? |
| 18:47.42 | vlt | jelly-home: I double-checked: Removing the client from BIND ... and saned rejects access. |
| 18:48.05 | jelly-home | vlt or add to http://wiki.debian.org/SaneOverNetwork |
| 18:48.18 | vlt | jelly-home: Yes, thanks. |
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| 18:58.13 | action09 | i've a old wmv file and no sound :( something special with proprietary*! wmv files ? i can play all others files :( |
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| 18:59.36 | action09 | http://dontsaythename.org/showpost.php?p=6880834&postcount=9 |
| 18:59.43 | action09 | maybe.. i'll have a look :) |
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| 19:21.37 | Absolute0 | I installed mpd/mpc and ran the mpd daemon and updated the database, but when i try to run mpc i get this error: "MPD_HOST and/or MPD_PORT environment variables are not set...." |
| 19:21.50 | Absolute0 | I checked ps -e|grep mpd and it is running |
| 19:21.57 | JordiGH | Perhaps they should be set? |
| 19:22.00 | Absolute0 | I also rebooted to fix any path errors |
| 19:22.06 | JordiGH | That's so crazy it just might work. |
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| 19:23.07 | Absolute0 | JordiGH: set, didn't do anything |
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| 19:24.13 | Absolute0 | JordiGH: I setup the mpd config as well. |
| 19:24.19 | Absolute0 | ehh :( |
| 19:24.38 | JordiGH | Sorry mate, no further wisdom from me. |
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| 19:27.26 | ggrelias | hi i am having an issue with trying to get out of init 1. basicly when i try to restore to a full run level it gets to starting NFS daemon but never gets past this and i have to force power off the machine(soft off wont work ass its frozen), any ideas? |
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| 19:28.29 | ggrelias | it was on by default |
| 19:28.33 | ggrelias | the NFS daemon that is |
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| 19:31.10 | ggrelias | how to disable nfs? |
| 19:31.54 | ggrelias | Anyone around on freenode? |
| 19:32.01 | mesaGL | yes |
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| 19:32.12 | Titan8990 | ggrelias, there is no reason to ask in both debian channels at once |
| 19:32.15 | Titan8990 | ggrelias, stop |
| 19:32.29 | ggrelias | I didnt know the two channels are related |
| 19:32.34 | mesaGL | ggrelias: temporary disable or full lethal incapacitation ? |
| 19:32.34 | ggrelias | to be honest, i trust freenode more |
| 19:33.06 | ggrelias | not sure why nfs would freeze a machine though if you haven't set it up |
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| 19:34.29 | ggrelias | is nfs default in debian etc |
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| 19:36.10 | ggrelias | may I reask my question for themill? |
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| 19:36.15 | ggrelias | i am having an issue with trying to get out of init 1. basicly when i try to restore to a full run level it gets to starting NFS daemon but never gets past this and i have to force power off the machine(soft off wont work ass its frozen), any ideas? |
| 19:36.25 | ggrelias | it was on by default |
| 19:36.31 | ggrelias | is nfs default on debian? |
| 19:36.41 | ggrelias | and how can I fix my problem? how to disable it please sir |
| 19:36.47 | abrotman | remove portmap |
| 19:37.11 | ggrelias | abrotman: will that do it? |
| 19:37.13 | ggrelias | just that? |
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| 19:37.29 | themill | who? what? me? no. |
| 19:37.48 | mesaGL | /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server stop ; /etc/init.d/nfs-common stop ; /etc/init.d/portmap stop |
| 19:38.40 | ggrelias | thanks alot |
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| 19:39.53 | ggrelias | chkconfig for both is now off so coming out of init 1 wont cause it to start again |
| 19:40.58 | abrotman | chkconfig ? |
| 19:41.27 | ggrelias | yes |
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| 19:42.32 | ggrelias | abrotman ? |
| 19:42.42 | abrotman | it's a RH box ? |
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| 19:42.52 | ggrelias | debian |
| 19:43.16 | Titan8990 | abrotman, its available, had to check myself |
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| 19:43.32 | ggrelias | :) |
| 19:43.43 | ggrelias | Titan8990 |
| 19:43.47 | ggrelias | wasnt added before? |
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| 19:44.45 | Titan8990 | ggrelias, its basically to ease the transition for rhel to debian according the description |
| 19:45.09 | Titan8990 | i doubt it will get much support here |
| 19:45.13 | ggrelias | can I see where you read that? |
| 19:45.20 | Titan8990 | aptitude show chkconfig |
| 19:45.44 | Titan8990 | In Debian, there are several tools with similar functionality, but users coming from other Linux distributions will find the tools in this package more familiar. |
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| 19:46.41 | ggrelias | yea but how come you gurus dindt know about it |
| 19:46.48 | ggrelias | what's the debian native sysv config utility? |
| 19:47.01 | ggrelias | 'debian native' |
| 19:47.15 | action09 | update-rc.d ? |
| 19:47.27 | Titan8990 | nix System V, commonly abbreviated SysV (and usually pronounced though rarely written as "System 5"), is one of the versions of the Unix operating system. |
| 19:47.48 | ggrelias | Titan8990: whats debian's ? |
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| 19:48.11 | Titan8990 | ggrelias, i don't get it... it says sysv is a version of UNIX but you are referring to a set of tools.... |
| 19:48.16 | action09 | 5 lines above |
| 19:48.30 | ggrelias | yes thanks action09 |
| 19:48.30 | Titan8990 | ggrelias, update-rc.d manages the symlinks in /etc/rc.? |
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| 19:48.41 | action09 | man update-rc.d |
| 19:49.29 | ggrelias | i did find that, but i couldn't figure out how to get it to list services, and what runlevels they start/stop at |
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| 19:50.10 | ggrelias | and whats more lame, is when a disabled service gets updated, the service is re-enabled |
| 19:50.11 | ggrelias | :( |
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| 19:50.55 | action09 | ggrelias you can do it if you undersand what exactly this links are used to, where do they go and in wich order (kill/.start..etc) by the way you can use more common tools like: sysv-rc-conf and rcconf |
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| 19:51.17 | action09 | aptitude install rcconf |
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| 19:53.31 | bpgoldsb | When does Debian Etch stop getting security updates? |
| 19:54.12 | abrotman | maybe february |
| 19:54.39 | ggrelias | if i remember, i couldn't figure out the proper syntax to do much of anything... heh |
| 19:54.46 | ggrelias | that's more the package manager... package finds the links missing, so it re-creates them. |
| 19:54.50 | ggrelias | ysv irritates the hell out of me, anyhow... |
| 19:54.55 | ggrelias | i miss bsd init, in slackware... even more arcane, but crystal clear. |
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| 19:55.49 | jelly-home | ggrelias: yeah, you need to keep at least one link to stop that from happening |
| 19:56.03 | jelly-home | ggrelias: (yes, it can be a K* link) |
| 19:56.16 | ggrelias | can you explain? |
| 19:56.42 | jelly-home | sysvinit works by symlinking the init script into /etc/rc?.d/ directories |
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| 19:56.57 | jelly-home | update-rc.d only manages those symlinks |
| 19:57.30 | ggrelias | So? |
| 19:57.52 | jelly-home | ggrelias: so if you remove all the /etc/rc?.d/S*foo links, foo won't get started. But since some K* links still exist, a package upgrade won't recreate them all |
| 19:57.52 | panfist | as root, i just did apt-get install git...which completed successfully...but when i try to run git from bash, it says it's not found |
| 19:58.30 | panfist | hum...maybe thats because the package git is a transitional dummy package? |
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| 19:59.27 | ggrelias | I see jelly |
| 19:59.29 | jelly-home | ggrelias: since update-rc.d and sysvinit are kind of dumb that way, most init scripts now read a separate /etc/default/foo where the particular service can be disabled or enabled |
| 19:59.30 | ggrelias | tahnks alot |
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| 20:00.54 | ggrelias | jelly-home: i still prefer 'chmod 644 rc.httpd' to stop apache from starting... :/ |
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| 20:03.46 | ggrelias | jelly-home ? |
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| 20:07.03 | jelly-home | ggrelias: yes? |
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| 20:10.55 | mezod | someone can help me with amule CVS and amule-daemon installation? |
| 20:11.15 | ggrelias | jelly-home: i still prefer 'chmod 644 rc.httpd' to stop apache from starting... :/ |
| 20:11.15 | mezod | i think i've got it to run but i dont know how to connect it to KAD |
| 20:11.23 | ggrelias | you know doing it from the startup scripts :) |
| 20:11.25 | mezod | i guess its not an installation doubt >.< |
| 20:11.51 | jelly-home | ggrelias: ok. Did you expect an answer to that? |
| 20:12.24 | jelly-home | it doesn't sound like a question |
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| 20:13.34 | panfist | i'm not sure if this is a debian issue, ssh, putty, screen, or whatever...when i ssh into a debian box with x11 forwarding i can start gui apps. but if i run screen and try to exectue a gui app with a screen terminal i cannot open a display |
| 20:14.44 | ascii158 | screen does not copy all environment-variables, i think |
| 20:15.12 | ascii158 | just do an echo $DISPLAY before starting screen and then export DISPLAY=whatever |
| 20:16.17 | panfist | export DISPLAY=whatever -- from within a screen terminal right? |
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| 20:16.52 | panfist | that was easy |
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| 20:19.27 | abrotman | did you hit the Staples button ? |
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| 20:22.04 | ascii158 | panfist: yes :-) |
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| 20:29.02 | mudsplatter | i has a qustion |
| 20:29.12 | mudsplatter | how do i disable the touch pad click |
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| 20:34.44 | helo_ | dpkg: previously deselected package |
| 20:34.44 | dpkg | helo_: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 20:34.50 | helo_ | me neither... you said it |
| 20:35.08 | mudsplatter | bot vs bot |
| 20:35.19 | mudsplatter | dpkg -i me |
| 20:35.20 | dpkg | removes a lung from mudsplatter and replaces it with mudsplatter |
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| 20:35.44 | mudsplatter | no!!!!!!!11 |
| 20:35.44 | zleap | lol |
| 20:36.01 | mudsplatter | dpkg -i brain |
| 20:36.01 | dpkg | installs brain into mudsplatter's head with a bone saw and a few screws |
| 20:36.10 | TrueDD | Howdy |
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| 20:36.29 | mudsplatter | dpkg -i penis |
| 20:36.29 | dpkg | package penis is already installed |
| 20:36.33 | mudsplatter | rofl |
| 20:36.34 | mudsplatter | hahaha |
| 20:36.42 | themill | !enough |
| 20:36.42 | dpkg | Please stop fondling my database in public! I have some degree of modesty, you know. If you want to look for factoids, ask me in a /msg, for example, /msg dpkg bot help |
| 20:36.42 | mudsplatter | ill be here for hours |
| 20:36.48 | themill | mudsplatter: no you won't be |
| 20:36.58 | mudsplatter | awwww |
| 20:36.59 | mudsplatter | fine |
| 20:37.07 | hark | mudsplatter: you want to disable tap to click? |
| 20:37.10 | mudsplatter | ya |
| 20:37.15 | mudsplatter | hark |
| 20:37.19 | mudsplatter | its been bugging me |
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| 20:37.21 | mudsplatter | i cant type |
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| 20:38.08 | hark | mudsplatter: for that you can use syndaemon, it'll disable it while you're typing and enable at other times |
| 20:38.42 | mudsplatter | how |
| 20:38.43 | mudsplatter | to |
| 20:38.45 | mudsplatter | ? |
| 20:38.47 | hark | man syndaemon |
| 20:38.49 | mudsplatter | i am not good |
| 20:39.11 | Manuel113 | hi. i've installed debian a douzen times already, on my external hard disk, and have the same problem every time: a grub error 2 or error 18 at first boot. i think i'm going nuts. :( |
| 20:39.24 | mudsplatter | syndaemon -i 60 |
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| 20:40.29 | mudsplatter | syndaemon -id 60 |
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| 20:41.51 | Manuel113 | hmmm, the silence means i should go and tourcher myself the next few days with that, ah, well, c'est la vie :P |
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| 20:43.21 | rsc | Can somebody paste the output of "perl -V:installarchlib" from different Debian releases? And where is "ExtUtils/typemap" located at the different Debian releases? |
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| 20:44.40 | macrobat | what's an easy way to compare two directory trees with hundreds of files? |
| 20:44.57 | rsc | macrobat: diff? :) |
| 20:45.00 | jelly-home | macrobat: text or binary files? |
| 20:45.06 | macrobat | text |
| 20:45.11 | jelly-home | diff, then |
| 20:45.17 | macrobat | ok, ty |
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| 20:49.57 | mythomaniac | anyone using squeeze and have gnome installed, and is also updated to todays updates.... how's it working for those that do? |
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| 20:51.55 | mythomaniac | i been wanting to install gnome on squeeze, but the bug list shows that it may be broken... |
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| 20:52.35 | g00se | macrobat: fslint |
| 20:52.51 | Vasistha | I just used ntfsresize to shrink an ntfs partition, and now I have booted to the debian netinstall disk. I'm doing manual partition, and ... what do I need to do, now? delete the ntfs partition and respecify it? Feels dangerous... |
| 20:55.02 | g00se | Vasistha: Delete it? Why resize it if that's what you want to do? |
| 20:55.12 | mythomaniac | Vasistha, use the unused partition for the deb install, that is if you want to save your ntfs partition |
| 20:56.02 | Vasistha | there is no unused partition space. I shrunk the partition, however the partition table has not been adjusted -- I need help adjusting the partition table |
| 20:56.53 | Vasistha | sorry if my orig question was unclear |
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| 20:58.45 | Vasistha | wow, this place is quiet for middle-of-a-thursday |
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| 20:59.55 | g00se | Vasistha: In that case the resize has not worked: if the partition table is not in sync with the partitions themselves then there's something definitely wrong |
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| 21:00.29 | Vasistha | g00se: I'm not at all convinced that you're right about that... in my experience, partition resizing tools (e.g. parted, ntfsresize) do not always adjust the partition table |
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| 21:01.02 | Vasistha | g00se: furthermore, windows is happy, can access my data, and reports the ntfs filesystem size correctly (with the new, shrunk size) |
| 21:02.47 | g00se | Vasistha: ntfs has its own metadata |
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| 21:03.55 | dkay | hello #debian! how to create sha-2 hashes or md5 ? is there an application for debian? or is it just a commandline? |
| 21:04.15 | mythomaniac | Vasistha, i cannot help you bro... if it were me i'd ditch windoze though ;) |
| 21:04.35 | Vasistha | dkay: it's easy on the command line, md5sum, sha*sum |
| 21:04.46 | Vasistha | mythomaniac: it's not my computer ;) |
| 21:04.52 | mythomaniac | ah |
| 21:06.51 | macrobat | dkay: package sleuthkit has md5sum, iirc |
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| 21:08.04 | panfist | i am trying to debug a command that is giving me some problems. from the shell i typed "debug > output" but only the stuff that was printed to stdout was piped to output (i think). i need the stuf from stderr too |
| 21:08.05 | mythomaniac | guess i'll setup a vbox and test it... |
| 21:08.07 | g00se | dkay: coreutils |
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| 21:08.52 | g00se | panfist: debug &> output |
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| 21:10.11 | panfist | thanks g00se |
| 21:11.14 | g00se | panfist: np, although you might prefer debug 2>&1 | tee output |
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| 21:11.54 | Manuel113 | Vasistha: yeah, i felt adventurous too, and now i have my frickin' balls down my throught. :P ah, well, say all and thanks anyway |
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| 21:12.52 | jimcooncat | was trying to make this for dkay but I'm messing up on the $() part: |
| 21:12.59 | jimcooncat | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:14.59 | dkay | coreutils come with a debian install included? i already have it, well, need manpages coreutils or an good quickguide |
| 21:15.18 | cuco | hi all, which "splash" is currently recommended under testing? I see 3 implementations |
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| 21:15.42 | Vasistha | manu_hack: have you lost data? did you back up? |
| 21:15.49 | dkay | i guess ill stick with coreutils then cause it is already there! thx Vasistha macrobat g00se jimcooncat XD |
| 21:15.50 | flokuehn_ | ` |
| 21:16.01 | g00se | dkay: man md5sum |
| 21:16.39 | Vasistha | dkay: coreutils is a collection of packages; each one has its own manpage. |
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| 21:17.09 | dkay | coreutils creates md5 hashes? someone said sha-2 could be better, can i create sha2 hashes with coreutils? |
| 21:17.16 | Judge-- | Please, what is the package that contains gmake? build-essential seems to doesn't.. |
| 21:17.38 | zinx | dkay: coreutils has a sha1sum program |
| 21:17.42 | abrotman | !tell Judge-- about apt-file |
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| 21:17.45 | Judge-- | and the search in the package db on debian.org doesn't returns results too ( http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=gmake&searchon=all&suite=stable§ion=all ) |
| 21:17.59 | zinx | (as well as several other sha-based hahes) |
| 21:18.11 | dkay | ok |
| 21:18.12 | glow_wolf | Is there a way to connect to aol dialup with lenny? |
| 21:18.14 | g00se | dkay: man sha512sum |
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| 21:18.30 | dkay | thanks |
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| 21:18.57 | starenka | is there a linux-uvc* packes somewhere in lenny, can't find them :( |
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| 21:19.06 | starenka | s/packes/packages |
| 21:19.15 | starenka | s/is/are |
| 21:19.24 | g00se | Judge--: freebsd-buildutils |
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| 21:19.42 | Judge-- | thank you g00se. |
| 21:19.52 | Judge-- | thanks abrotman |
| 21:20.40 | jimcooncat | dkay: Here's something you can put in a launcher for a quick gui md5: |
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| 21:21.13 | jimcooncat | you might have to install zenity |
| 21:21.13 | dkay | i got my first sha512sum. |
| 21:21.50 | jimcooncat | ok. |
| 21:21.54 | jimcooncat | zenity --entry --entry-text=$(zenity --entry | sha512sum) |
| 21:22.08 | dkay | coreutils is already installed with my default debian installation |
| 21:22.14 | dkay | just enough :) |
| 21:22.18 | g00se | starenka: uvccapture? |
| 21:22.33 | starenka | kernel modules |
| 21:22.49 | starenka | (too lazy to compile) |
| 21:22.52 | g00se | dkay: Yes. That's why it's called ... core* ;-) |
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| 21:26.36 | dkay | how do i use this checksum? it is just that i copy the line which i get from the output? |
| 21:26.47 | dkay | how to verify |
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| 21:27.09 | dkay | sha512sum --check says "no properly formatted SHA512 checksum lines found" |
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| 21:30.12 | giacomo_c | well, i got debian installed, now just to get all my old programs back, sigh |
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| 21:32.43 | g00se | dkay: sha512sum <somfile |
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| 21:34.27 | g00se | giacomo_c: All you need to do is apply that dpkg --get-selections you did before ;-) |
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| 21:37.20 | Layke | Hey. I have just installed a LAMP stack on my debian system, however I can't connect from PHP to mysql. What must I do to enable the mysql mod? |
| 21:37.23 | giacomo_c | i don't understand what you're talking about g00se, i was thinking im going to need to setup some basic things, like my video card, |
| 21:37.32 | giacomo_c | also, i need to setup sudoers |
| 21:38.59 | giacomo_c | what's the best way to setup sudo for my user |
| 21:39.10 | giacomo_c | i only have one user, for my laptop |
| 21:40.17 | g00se | giacomo_c: That depends on how much you trust yourself |
| 21:40.37 | giacomo_c | i trust myself completely :) |
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| 21:41.02 | giacomo_c | can i just add a line to my sudoers file like this: giacomo ALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 21:41.16 | g00se | Layke: Seldom is MySQL set up automatically. You probably need to config it manually |
| 21:41.21 | giacomo_c | it already has root ALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 21:41.29 | Layke | g00se. Its okay. I didn't apt-get install php5-mysql |
| 21:41.34 | Layke | I was 100% sure I did that already |
| 21:41.38 | Layke | I must have typoed |
| 21:42.11 | g00se | yourusername ALL=(ALL) ALL |
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| 21:42.35 | giacomo_c | ahhh, can i make it so i don't even have to use a password? |
| 21:42.57 | giacomo_c | yes, yes i will do this :) |
| 21:44.23 | g00se | It might be preferable to do %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL ||||| and add yourself to group sudo |
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| 21:44.42 | Bohemian | to install skype, is it simply apt-get install skype ? |
| 21:44.55 | giacomo_c | why would that be better than doing giacomo ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: giacomo |
| 21:45.07 | abchirk | Bohemian yes, after adding the skype deb repo |
| 21:45.12 | giacomo_c | would that even work? |
| 21:45.28 | Bohemian | abchirk: how do i add that? |
| 21:46.47 | abchirk | deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free @ Bohemian should work? |
| 21:47.08 | abchirk | ^^ this into /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:47.09 | giacomo_c | or i guess it would be giacomo ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL |
| 21:48.05 | Bohemian | so add "deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free" into /etc/apt/sources.list ? and then apt-get install skype |
| 21:48.07 | Bohemian | ? |
| 21:48.46 | abchirk | Bohemian, yes.. but you have to update your apt cache before, with apt-get update or aptitude update |
| 21:48.47 | g00se | giacomo_c: I can't remember the exact syntax offhand. The point is that the group method adds a comfortable layer of indirection and is thus slightly more flexible |
| 21:48.56 | Bohemian | okay, tahnks |
| 21:49.00 | abchirk | And I recommend to use aptitude also for installation @ Bohemian |
| 21:49.35 | g00se | !why aptitude |
| 21:49.35 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often be able to come up with a solution where apt-get just gives up. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). It can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line or at the Y/n/q/? prompt using its interactive resolver, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
| 21:49.42 | abchirk | Bohemian, the search for software is much easier with aptitude... |
| 21:49.53 | abchirk | ah :) |
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| 21:50.26 | giacomo_c | hmm, well perhaps i shall do that g00se, but i'm having some trouble already, visudo keeps telling me the command is not found, do i need to switch to root to do this? |
| 21:50.44 | g00se | sudo visudo |
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| 21:51.18 | Bohemian | thanks |
| 21:51.28 | g00se | To begin with su -c visudo (probably) |
| 21:51.31 | giacomo_c | g00se, i'm not in the sudoers file yet |
| 21:51.44 | giacomo_c | ahh, see, that's what i'm talking about :) |
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| 21:52.36 | Rezagrats | Why can't i paste from my windows machine into my Debian box (via samba) ? |
| 21:53.10 | giacomo_c | how do i save this |
| 21:53.12 | valdyn | Rezagrats: what does samba have to do with pasting? |
| 21:53.13 | giacomo_c | in nano i guess |
| 21:53.29 | Rezagrats | Valdyn, pasting files... |
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| 21:53.38 | valdyn | Rezagrats: you mean copying files? |
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| 21:53.50 | Rezagrats | Valdyn, copy/paste. yeah. |
| 21:53.51 | g00se | giacomo_c: Nano saves by default afaicr |
| 21:54.06 | giacomo_c | dang, afaicr you say, haha, alright |
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| 21:54.39 | valdyn | !tell Rezagrats -about ask |
| 21:54.42 | giacomo_c | it works :) |
| 21:55.22 | Rezagrats | ... |
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| 21:57.23 | Rezagrats | "I'm running Debian 5.0.3. When i try to copy files through my samba connnection it says i need permission to do so. I'm trying to copy from a Windows 7 machine (presumably the same connection type and such as vista)" any ideas? -_- |
| 21:57.46 | giacomo_c | hmmm, now to get apt-get to work |
| 21:58.16 | valdyn | Rezagrats: much better, now give the user you are using to authenticate against that windows server the permissions to access files the way you want to |
| 21:59.10 | valdyn | Rezagrats: or did I get that wrong and the debian box is the server? same deal basically |
| 21:59.28 | valdyn | Rezagrats: just that in that case you would edit /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 21:59.41 | valdyn | !smbpasswd |
| 21:59.57 | valdyn | nvm |
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| 22:00.07 | valdyn | Rezagrats: or just use winscp, thats easier for your purpose |
| 22:00.13 | giacomo_c | i keep getting an error when i try to install via apt-get |
| 22:00.15 | giacomo_c | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) |
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| 22:00.40 | g00se | valdyn: Back to wodim (should it be 'woedim'?). I don't know whether i've got bad media, a bad drive or a bad approach: http://pastebin.com/m5b0711b1 |
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| 22:01.20 | robd | Hey guys |
| 22:01.25 | valdyn | g00se: medium not present? |
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| 22:01.30 | valdyn | g00se: no disk inserted? |
| 22:01.50 | robd | I'm trying to install Etch via preseeding and I'm using the http.us.debian.org mirror and I'm repeatedly getting an error that says the mirror has a bad Release file on it |
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| 22:02.05 | robd | Is there anyway to install Etch using real Debian mirrors or is it totally broken now? |
| 22:02.23 | g00se | valdyn: Very much present. I wonder if it simply doesn't like the disks i've got |
| 22:02.32 | valdyn | g00se: that is possible |
| 22:02.38 | xand | robd: etch is deprecated. |
| 22:02.57 | valdyn | g00se: you can try "cdrdao write file.iso" instead |
| 22:03.05 | g00se | valdyn: They have been written to already. btw the above was the result of a 'blank' command |
| 22:03.05 | valdyn | g00se: should give the same error though |
| 22:03.17 | robd | xand: I've know that, but I've got about 650 servers still running it and we haven't been green-lit to upgrade to Lenny yet... |
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| 22:03.34 | robd | xand: Is there anyway I can still use the mirrors or am I screwed? |
| 22:03.40 | valdyn | g00se: cd or dvd? |
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| 22:04.08 | g00se | valdyn: cd |
| 22:04.16 | xand | my updates still work for etch but I don't know if I use an "official" mirror |
| 22:04.47 | valdyn | g00se: i dont know much about rewritables and when or how blanking is even needed |
| 22:05.13 | g00se | valdyn: Thanks. I'll give cdrdao a whirl |
| 22:05.37 | valdyn | xand: youre probably grabbing lenny stuff |
| 22:05.51 | valdyn | xand: are you sure you are referencing etch and not "stable"? |
| 22:06.25 | XayOn | =( How's udev support for dvb on squeeze? I didn't found any rules. |
| 22:06.36 | Rezagrats | Valdyn, the server IS debian... but i don't want to be accessing the entire machine (ok, maybe /home/ and stuff). i didn't find anything(that caught my eye) pertaining to permissions that would allow me to receive full access to the drive. |
| 22:06.59 | valdyn | Rezagrats: thats in /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 22:07.05 | Rezagrats | Right. |
| 22:07.24 | xand | valdyn: yes. |
| 22:07.48 | xand | at least one machine I haven't updated yet |
| 22:07.56 | valdyn | Rezagrats: you could add public=yes to make it rw by everyone |
| 22:08.07 | giacomo_c | ok, on this fresh install, im getting trouble from apt-get and synaptic.... it's giving me an error about a section with no package: header. and a problem with a merglist /var/lib/dpkg/status |
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| 22:08.22 | valdyn | Rezagrats: but this is all documented nicely too |
| 22:08.44 | Rezagrats | It's only me using it though, valdyn. and i don't want some random person to trip up and find my samba server. |
| 22:08.53 | valdyn | Rezagrats: user accountsd can be created and maintained thru smbpasswd |
| 22:09.03 | valdyn | Rezagrats: so you get to read the documentation |
| 22:09.37 | valdyn | Rezagrats: i dont know why you would even bother to use samba when theres winscp though |
| 22:10.07 | Rezagrats | Because samba was easier (and known) for me. |
| 22:10.19 | valdyn | Rezagrats: winscp already works, youre just not using it |
| 22:10.21 | robd | xand: Which mirror do you use? |
| 22:10.27 | valdyn | Rezagrats: samba needs to be setup properly |
| 22:10.50 | xand | mirrorservice.org... though, haven't updated in about a week |
| 22:10.55 | xand | *I haven't |
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| 22:11.05 | xand | I use that one cos it's on same LAN at work :> |
| 22:11.43 | valdyn | Rezagrats: winscp uses unix accounts, samba authentication has to be maintained seperately |
| 22:11.47 | valdyn | Rezagrats: thats alot more complex |
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| 22:12.22 | babilen | giacomo_c: First, use aptitude. Second paste the error somewhere |
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| 22:14.01 | Rezagrats | Valdyn, so i can log in into my debian machine completely? |
| 22:14.16 | valdyn | Rezagrats: not exactly |
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| 22:14.32 | giacomo_c | okay |
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| 22:14.40 | valdyn | Rezagrats: winscp works on top of ssh, which means it uses unix accounts and unix permissions |
| 22:15.03 | valdyn | Rezagrats: if you log in as userxy you can read/write whatever userxy can read or write |
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| 22:16.21 | Arrowmaster | transfer speeds will be slower than samba though |
| 22:16.30 | valdyn | Arrowmaster: thats nonsense |
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| 22:17.51 | Arrowmaster | always been slower for me, although i wasnt using winscp but just sftp, but there isnt much difference |
| 22:17.58 | cirwin | why does apt take so long on security.debian.org ? |
| 22:18.41 | themill | cirwin: I'll take a random guess that you should disable ipv6 |
| 22:18.50 | Polarina | themill: NEVER! |
| 22:19.17 | cirwin | themill: would it not make sense to give it an ip4 address? |
| 22:19.36 | Polarina | cirwin: It has a IPv4 address. |
| 22:19.56 | Polarina | Three of them. |
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| 22:20.43 | Rezagrats | Valdyn, what would my debian machine's domain be ? (what i named it?) |
| 22:20.57 | alnr | what package contains a word list in /etc/dictionaries-common/? i have the folder but its empty |
| 22:21.00 | valdyn | Rezagrats: no |
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| 22:21.25 | valdyn | Rezagrats: you can enter the ip address |
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| 22:24.43 | Rezagrats | Samba is starting to look easier for the moment. :'( |
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| 22:26.10 | valdyn | Rezagrats: if you cant conclude that you should ask "How do i find out the ip adress", then i cant help you |
| 22:26.23 | Rezagrats | I know how to find my ip. |
| 22:26.28 | Rezagrats | It's just the loggin in part. :\ |
| 22:26.30 | g00se | valdyn: Well cdrdao certainly seems to be blanking OK |
| 22:26.37 | valdyn | Rezagrats: the username ? |
| 22:26.39 | giacomo_c | ok, i tried googling the problem, tried the different fixes, and none of them have worked... this is what i get: http://pastebin.com/m7dcf61d3 |
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| 22:27.04 | Pudgy | Hi all, in which file should the user-defined $PATH go? Is it .bashrc or something else? |
| 22:27.21 | giacomo_c | i've tried sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf |
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| 22:27.31 | giacomo_c | i've tried sudo dpkg --configure -a |
| 22:27.32 | valdyn | !wikifaq Pudgy DotFiles |
| 22:27.32 | dpkg | Pudgy: check out http://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles or if that doesn't work, try http://wiki.debian.org/ |
| 22:27.35 | Rezagrats | Valdyn, yes... the username and pass to login. do i use the user/pass that i normally use or do i have yet another file to create and/or setup/configure ? |
| 22:27.35 | giacomo_c | but neither seem to work |
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| 22:27.50 | valdyn | Rezagrats: the one you normally use |
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| 22:28.45 | g00se | valdyn: But isn't the app just for copying from disk to disk? |
| 22:28.55 | Rezagrats | Valdyn: "Network error: connection refused" |
| 22:29.16 | valdyn | g00se: which app? |
| 22:29.29 | giacomo_c | any ideas babilen? |
| 22:29.41 | Pudgy | dpkg: K, thanks |
| 22:29.41 | dpkg | Pudgy: are you using Windows? |
| 22:29.46 | valdyn | Rezagrats: you need to install openssh-server on your debian box if you havent |
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| 22:30.11 | g00se | valdyn: cdrdao |
| 22:30.16 | Pudgy | is boggled about dpkg |
| 22:30.34 | valdyn | g00se: nah |
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| 22:31.27 | meetmeonaholiday | I'm gonna be needing to virtualize win 7 on top of debian amd64. Should I use 64-bit windows or 32-bit? Are there complications with 64-bit win 7? And which virtualization software should I use? |
| 22:31.56 | babilen | giacomo_c: Which release are you running? |
| 22:32.10 | giacomo_c | lenny |
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| 22:32.11 | g00se | valdyn: Remember what you were saying about funny scsi bus ids with wodim. The same sort of thing is specified in source-device for cdrdao. I see no source file options ... |
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| 22:32.18 | Rezagrats | Valdyn, it wasn't made to be an ftp server(which imo is unsafer than samba). it was made to be a file server for local access. :) |
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| 22:32.25 | babilen | giacomo_c: That looks like apt-get output... correct? |
| 22:32.25 | giacomo_c | the stable version, i downloaded it today from debian.org |
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| 22:32.34 | valdyn | Rezagrats: we arent talking about ftp |
| 22:32.36 | giacomo_c | i've tried both aptitude and apt-get |
| 22:32.47 | valdyn | Rezagrats: nothing you can get is safer than ssh based services |
| 22:32.58 | giacomo_c | sudo aptitude update gives me the same errors |
| 22:33.07 | babilen | giacomo_c: And both give the same error? Given that you just installed lenny: What have you done? |
| 22:33.08 | valdyn | Rezagrats: and few things are *less* safe than using samba |
| 22:33.14 | valdyn | Rezagrats: samba is not meant to be safe |
| 22:33.22 | Rezagrats | -sigh- might as well TRY... |
| 22:33.25 | giacomo_c | haha, i've done nothing... i setup sudoers and that's it |
| 22:33.36 | g00se | valdyn: Maybe it's datafile i need ..? |
| 22:34.34 | valdyn | Rezagrats: im not trying to hold you back from reading the samba documentation btw |
| 22:34.38 | dkay | is ther an application which makes it easy to send all logfiles during rotate to an email adress? to add on every single logrotate file this "mail" command isnt really preferrable. is there an application for it? |
| 22:34.54 | valdyn | Rezagrats: im only telling you that samba done right is a complex beast while ssh is not |
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| 22:35.16 | giacomo_c | i have a seperate /home partition that i've been using for years through debian and ubuntu installs, but i don't think that would effect aptitude/apt-get on a new install, would it? |
| 22:35.54 | valdyn | g00se: i dont know what datafile you are talking about |
| 22:36.32 | g00se | valdyn: OK - what would a burn iso to disk command look like? |
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| 22:37.16 | Rezagrats | Yeah... i can see what Arrowmaster was saying about WinSCP being slower, valdyn. |
| 22:37.45 | ale_ | Hi |
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| 22:37.53 | balou | hi |
| 22:37.57 | valdyn | g00se: cdrdao needs a table of contents file, aka cue file |
| 22:38.02 | valdyn | g00se: you would have to make one |
| 22:38.15 | valdyn | g00se: since you blanked successfully, have you tried burning with wodim? |
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| 22:38.35 | babilen | giacomo_c: No, certainly not. |
| 22:39.01 | babilen | giacomo_c: You have just installed lenny and this happens "out of the blue" ? |
| 22:39.16 | valdyn | Rezagrats: its slow *if* one of both computers involved cant handle the encryption |
| 22:39.21 | giacomo_c | im not lying to you? why would i lie if i wanted to get this fixed? |
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| 22:39.36 | g00se | valdyn: Yes, i thought it might. Yes, i'll try wodim again |
| 22:39.40 | balou | is there a way to make an installation only with packages of priority level 'required'? |
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| 22:40.24 | Rezagrats | I doubt either computer can't handle the encryption, both are powerful enough to. |
| 22:40.28 | giacomo_c | i've tried running sudo dpkg --configure -a and it comes back with dpkg: failed in buffer_read(fd): copy info file `/var/lib/dpkg/status': Input/output error |
| 22:40.38 | valdyn | Rezagrats: in that case its not significantly slower than samba |
| 22:41.14 | Rezagrats | Valdyn, i uploaded from the host machine at 12000KB(a solid 12MB). ;) |
| 22:41.21 | mesaGL | giacomo_c: what are the permissions on the file ? |
| 22:41.42 | valdyn | Rezagrats: over what kind of network? 100mbit? |
| 22:41.49 | babilen | giacomo_c: I am *not* accusing you of lying!! It just looks like a nasty bug and wanted to ask if you did something which might have caused that. |
| 22:41.57 | g00se | valdyn: Hmm. Seems to be performing ... |
| 22:41.59 | Rezagrats | 10/100, yeah. ( valdyn ) |
| 22:42.17 | giacomo_c | ah okay |
| 22:42.17 | valdyn | Rezagrats: i bet you that the 12mb/sec is a lie |
| 22:42.29 | giacomo_c | what file mesaGL? this is a problem im having with aptitude/apt-get |
| 22:42.32 | valdyn | Rezagrats: ( not you lieing, windows lieing ) |
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| 22:42.45 | g00se | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:43.00 | mesaGL | giacomo_c: it seems to me it is having problems opening and reading/writing /var/lib/dpkg/status |
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| 22:43.06 | g00se | /dev/hdd: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'Debian 5.0.3 i386 Bin-1 ' (bootable) (Woohoo!) |
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| 22:43.21 | babilen | giacomo_c: I assume that you have done everything that is described in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/346386 |
| 22:43.34 | g00se | valdyn: Thanks. Going up there to try to boot from it |
| 22:43.36 | giacomo_c | ah, the permissions should be whatever they were on a fresh install |
| 22:43.42 | Rezagrats | Valdyn, i kinda doubt that since i tested both windows 7 and Debian for consistency. i checked conky on debian and a script in a chat program i use and i did the same thing in Windows 7 respectively. |
| 22:44.04 | valdyn | Rezagrats: conky shows network thruput |
| 22:44.11 | valdyn | Rezagrats: thats not the file copy speed, its more |
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| 22:44.30 | giacomo_c | i will take a look babilen |
| 22:44.34 | Rezagrats | Yeah... samba uses the network for copying files. (der) |
| 22:44.43 | babilen | Has somebody a idea? Looks like #195301 is back :-( |
| 22:45.16 | babilen | giacomo_c: Sorry for the bad first impression. |
| 22:45.27 | valdyn | Rezagrats: if you "benchmark" samba in conky, then do the same for the ssh transfer |
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| 22:46.25 | giacomo_c | babilen: np, i was just confused |
| 22:47.39 | babilen | giacomo_c: rightfully so! |
| 22:48.16 | giacomo_c | hmm, well this looks promising, aptitude didn't return any errors |
| 22:48.22 | meetmeonaholiday | So as I was asking earlier, does anyone have experience running Windows 7 64-bit or Vista 64-bit in a VM on top of Debian AMD64? |
| 22:48.24 | giacomo_c | and neither did apt-get |
| 22:48.30 | giacomo_c | lets see if i can actually install soemthing |
| 22:48.31 | babilen | giacomo_c: Good. What solved it? |
| 22:48.41 | giacomo_c | that first solution on the bug page |
| 22:48.46 | babilen | giacomo_c: use aptitude. It is the default in lenny. |
| 22:48.47 | giacomo_c | copying the status-old to status |
| 22:49.02 | giacomo_c | ah, okay, just use aptitude where i would use apt-get instead |
| 22:50.04 | giacomo_c | i still don't really understand the difference between apt-get and aptitude |
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| 22:50.43 | babilen | giacomo_c: If it is not too much work for you I would ask you to file a bug against apt with the logs you acquired so far |
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| 22:51.02 | giacomo_c | file a bug with debian.org? |
| 22:52.20 | babilen | giacomo_c: just run "reportbug apt" and give as much information as possible. You might want to note that this is a duplicate of #195301 |
| 22:52.41 | giacomo_c | okay |
| 22:54.44 | babilen | !tell giacomo_c -about why aptitude |
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| 22:55.27 | careta | my power settings in gnome just stopped working. my screen doesn't turn off, the pc doesnt hibernate when it reaches critical power... any suggestions? |
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| 22:59.05 | valentin | is there something like peerguardian for iptables? |
| 22:59.23 | valentin | blocklist which autoupdates and integrates within iptables :-) |
| 22:59.53 | giacomo_c | babilen: it keeps asking me about existing bugs, but never mentions #195301 |
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| 23:00.46 | m0r0n | Hey, is there such thing as installing Debian on a flash drive? |
| 23:02.02 | abrotman | !tell m0r0n about usb install |
| 23:03.08 | m0r0n | I have a CD with debian currently,, do I just plug it in and tell it to install there? |
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| 23:08.00 | ponky | m0r0n: have you tried googling? theres like 200 guides for that |
| 23:08.36 | m0r0n | ponky: Question, should I bother with Debian if I'm just an average user to Ubnutu? |
| 23:08.41 | m0r0n | Should I wait? |
| 23:09.47 | abrotman | did you read what the bot told you? |
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| 23:16.50 | Rezagrats | What's the usual name of a CD drive ? |
| 23:17.02 | Rezagrats | cdrom0 ? |
| 23:17.27 | kingsley | FYI: They evidently figured out how to use the microphone and speakers to produce a "sonar" that tells the computer a.) when you're using it, and b.) when it can be turned off. http://www.mccormick.northwestern.edu/news/articles/589 |
| 23:18.06 | abrotman | kingsley: try #debian-offtopic |
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| 23:25.11 | TrueDD | Gnight to all |
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| 23:27.42 | pobega | Rezagrats: cdrom0, scd0, and a few others I tend to forget. Those should usually be enough, though. |
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| 23:35.44 | robd | Hey guys |
| 23:35.51 | robd | Where can I get a Debian etch iso? |
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| 23:39.00 | pobega | robd: wouldn't that be oldstable @ http://debian.org/ ? |
| 23:39.39 | abrotman | !cd archive |
| 23:39.40 | dpkg | A repository of older (unsupported) CD images can be found at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
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| 23:40.54 | robd | abrotman: Thanks! |
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| 23:42.09 | abrotman | robd: but why not install lenny? |
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| 23:44.19 | robd | abrotman: It's an unsupported configuration and we've got 650 servers... |
| 23:44.29 | abrotman | eh? |
| 23:44.30 | robd | abrotman: We'll upgrade, but only after everything runs smoothly on Lenny |
| 23:44.40 | abrotman | okay then .. have fun |
| 23:44.40 | robd | abrotman: At the moment we've still got some code that needs to be updated |
| 23:44.44 | robd | abrotman: (it sucks) |
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| 23:44.55 | abrotman | fix the code! |
| 23:45.00 | robd | abrotman: We've got a *huge* performance issue w/ Lenny at the moment |
| 23:45.14 | robd | abrotman: Basically our I/O speeds have been cut by ~30% |
| 23:45.22 | robd | abrotman: So it's pretty much figuring that out... |
| 23:46.52 | abrotman | have you tried the etchnhalf kernel? |
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| 23:51.55 | quma | hi all, i've just upgraded to squeeze and installed openoffice.org which threw in a lot of pulseaudio dependencies. I thought: pulseaudio? well lets give it a go. Unfortunately I ended up with a mute laptop, no matter what i tried. Pulseaudio seems configured well and I can see sound streams flowing in the vu meter but my speakers/headphones are mute. Anyone experiencing the same issue in squeeze? |
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| 23:56.05 | jpinx-eeepc | can anyone tell me how to get a remote ssh -X session to show me the panel of clickable menu items from gnome? |
| 23:57.15 | robd | Thanks guys!!!! |
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