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| 00:22.17 | kripz | how do i git an older revision? |
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| 00:24.57 | pngwn | kripz, http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive |
| 00:25.19 | kripz | im trying to compile x264 but i need an older version |
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| 00:38.49 | Mikaze | Anyone know why 'aptitude install ripit=3.7.0' isn't working? |
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| 00:42.06 | Mikaze | hates it when the F'ing package manager doesn't do what the man page tells you to do. |
| 00:43.10 | hark | judd: versions ripit |
| 00:43.11 | judd | hark: ripit -- etch: 3.5.1-1 lenny: 3.6.0-1 sid: 3.6.0-1 sid: 3.8.0-1 squeeze: 3.8.0-1 |
| 00:43.25 | hark | Mikaze: that's why ^ |
| 00:43.40 | simonrvn | Mikaze: it helps to have the right version in the argument |
| 00:44.36 | Mikaze | The changelog.Debian.gz file said the last version was 3.7.0. <shrugs. Thanks. |
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| 00:49.08 | simonrvn | Mikaze: when in doubt use apt-cache |
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| 00:51.04 | nyk2005 | I have some postgresql installation problem. I had to run a self-compiled version to use some old data, now I want to go back to the debian package. I did "aptitude purge postgresql", deleted /var/lib/postgresql* and the files in /etc and tried "aptitude install postgresql", but it didn't create the init script to start it. what can I do? |
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| 00:52.04 | LuciusMare | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=46232 anybody knows what to do with this? I do not want to update to grub2 (yet) |
| 00:52.46 | Mikaze | shrugs. Still can't find the last version of ripit to backport to, since ripit 3.8.* isn't werkin. |
| 00:53.59 | hark | nyk2005: which version of debian? |
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| 00:54.56 | hark | Mikaze: you can see the versions available to you using apt-cache policy ripit |
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| 00:55.42 | nyk2005 | hark: hmm don't even know, but I guess the problem was I had to purge postgresql-8.3 to actually have it purge something |
| 00:55.56 | rabidweezle | so glad I switched to debian... much less of a headache than what I was using before |
| 00:56.04 | nyk2005 | hark: just "postgresql" did nothing |
| 00:56.22 | hark | nyk2005: yeah, it's just a metapackage |
| 00:56.34 | nyk2005 | hark: how can I see my debian version? :) |
| 00:56.45 | hark | rabidweezle: did the newer kernel work? |
| 00:57.01 | pingouin | nyk2005: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 00:57.11 | nyk2005 | hark: I always keep it dist-upgraded, so it keeps changing I guess |
| 00:57.17 | hark | nyk2005: lsb_release -a |
| 00:57.18 | rabidweezle | hark yes :) |
| 00:57.40 | rabidweezle | hark in fact, I don't think I've ever seen linux run this stable since I did that in my life |
| 00:58.00 | nyk2005 | hark: thanks, it's 5.0.2 |
| 00:58.28 | nyk2005 | so it the newest |
| 00:58.32 | nyk2005 | its |
| 00:58.38 | Mikaze | Use tasksel and select the Database package to install postgresql. |
| 00:58.53 | rabidweezle | at least on this laptop |
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| 00:59.59 | rabidweezle | hark, you know how to add my user to the sudoers list? I wanna use sudo :/ |
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| 01:00.44 | hark | rabidweezle: /msg dpkg sudoers ; /msg dpkg visudo |
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| 01:01.02 | Mikaze | edit /etc/sudoers. |
| 01:01.07 | bododo | hi folks! :) |
| 01:01.07 | rabidweezle | k |
| 01:01.40 | bododo | did anyone successfully build webkit on Lenny? I have problems with glib |
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| 01:02.36 | Mikaze | hasn't gotten Linux to connect to the internet yet. Can't read english either. <ducks> |
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| 01:08.37 | belak | Ok, with the testing CD's, when you install, it wil, be set to use testing by default in apt, right? |
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| 01:10.23 | santerref | hello |
| 01:10.50 | octo_ | cant you make a symlink to something inside another dir that isnt accessible to others ? |
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| 01:10.56 | octo_ | i have a dir inside my home dir that i want someone else to get into through a sym link, but i dont want them in the rest of my home dir |
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| 01:11.30 | octo_ | if i make it forbiden for users and otheres, then the sym link is borken |
| 01:11.44 | santerref | I don't know sorry |
| 01:12.49 | belak | octo_: so, directory you want accessable should be accessible to users? |
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| 01:13.35 | octo_ | "/home/octo/mymedia is accessable to users" |
| 01:13.51 | octo_ | "home/octo" is forbidden |
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| 01:14.17 | belak | octo_: and a symlink to /home/octo/mymedia is broken? |
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| 01:14.35 | octo_ | but then the symlink i made to /home/octo/mymedia doesnt alow that user into it anymore |
| 01:14.39 | \amethyst | octo_: to access /home/octo/mymedia you need at least execute access to /, /home, and /home/octo |
| 01:14.47 | \amethyst | octo_: this includes via symlinks |
| 01:14.59 | octo_ | i set /home/octo to execute for users |
| 01:15.10 | belak | octo_: what if you moved the mymedia folder to somewhere else, like /media/mymedia and symlinked both the /home/octo/mymedia and the other location to it? |
| 01:15.17 | octo_ | ok, ill check them all |
| 01:15.23 | \amethyst | octo_: what are its permissions now according to ls -ld ? |
| 01:15.59 | octo_ | drwxr-xr-x 14 david users 4096 2009-10-24 21:12 |
| 01:16.15 | \amethyst | octo_: and on /home/octo/mymedia ? |
| 01:16.27 | belak | octo_: would my other suggestion work? |
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| 01:17.32 | octo_ | the symlink is called mp3s in the /home/david dir and is -rw-r--r-- 1 david users right now |
| 01:17.41 | octo_ | no x it seems |
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| 01:18.12 | \amethyst | octo_: odd... on Linux you usually see 777 on symlinks |
| 01:18.16 | \amethyst | err |
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| 01:18.19 | \amethyst | that's not a symlink |
| 01:18.29 | \amethyst | it would have an l as the first char, not a hyphen |
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| 01:18.47 | Kuifje111 | hello all. |
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| 01:19.01 | Kuifje111 | is it possible to let debian update it's clock automatically? |
| 01:19.17 | \amethyst | Kuifje111: yes, install the package ntp |
| 01:19.32 | \amethyst | Kuifje111: ("network time protocol") |
| 01:19.40 | Kuifje111 | thats nice, ok, thanks. |
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| 01:20.30 | octo_ | the other prob i had was when i did ln -s /home/octo/mymedia/mp3s musicJo , it made the user root:root, and then i cant seems to change it |
| 01:20.44 | octo_ | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2009-10-24 21:25 MusicJo -> /home/octo/MyMedia/Mp3s// |
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| 01:21.50 | octo_ | i can change it and then if i do chmod -v it says staying david:users, but la still shows rootroot |
| 01:21.58 | Mikaze | well, aptitude isn't cutting it to find the previous version of ripit in squeeze, and asking it to backport and grab lenny's version isn't working either. Anyone know which ftp dir I should look in at ftp.us.debian.org to find the .deb package so I can download and install it manually? |
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| 01:23.22 | octo_ | in fact, rgight now konwueor shows the owners as david:users |
| 01:23.34 | octo_ | konqueror* |
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| 01:23.59 | Penix | Mikaze: pool |
| 01:24.23 | Mikaze | Thought so, but I couldn't find pool. |
| 01:24.35 | Penix | keep looking then |
| 01:24.45 | Mikaze | K. |
| 01:25.56 | Penix | trying to install a stable package on testing system isn't a 'backport' |
| 01:26.19 | octo_ | \amethyst: i got it to work, thanks |
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| 01:27.12 | octo_ | i set my /home/octo to rwx--x--x and the david user can go through into mymedia |
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| 01:37.06 | tuantub | octo_: setting your home directory to 711 (as given above) only prevents david from viewing this directory |
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| 01:38.20 | tuantub | octo_: with x flags in other's permission he (and any other) can enter your directory :) |
| 01:39.54 | Mikaze | That friggin did it! ripit is working again! |
| 01:40.31 | Mikaze | When in doubt, hit it with a friggin brick. |
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| 01:42.01 | Mikaze | puts a dpkg-hold on the sucker, just in case. |
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| 01:49.35 | Ronis_BR | is there a debian installation CD with ext4 support? |
| 01:49.55 | acton | doubt it, but you can convert ext3 to ext4 |
| 01:50.27 | Ronis_BR | but it isn't good :D |
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| 01:52.30 | Arrowmaster | there isnt for debian stable but you can use a debian testing netinst cd |
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| 01:55.06 | Ronis_BR | Arrowmaster: I'm using sid |
| 01:55.13 | Ronis_BR | so debian testing netinst should be fine |
| 01:55.17 | Ronis_BR | thanks! |
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| 01:58.07 | Mikaze | successfully rips a new Def Leppard CD to mp3. Alright. I'm happy now. |
| 01:58.17 | Ronis_BR | Arrowmaster: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso? |
| 01:58.18 | acton | haha. which one? |
| 01:58.21 | Ronis_BR | is it this? |
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| 01:59.01 | Mikaze | Pyromania. |
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| 02:03.14 | Mikaze | waves. Thanks, guys... |
| 02:08.06 | octo_ | tuantub: true, i would have to make all other dirs in my home dir forbidden otherwise they can cd into them too right ? |
| 02:08.35 | octo_ | tuantub: i think it is better to move the mount point elsewhere soon |
| 02:09.35 | TrueDD | Gnight to all |
| 02:11.35 | tempuser | as stupid as this sounds, aptitude (when fetching packages) from a DHCP client would cause the download speeds to be horrific. as soon as setup a staton in the interface, all started woking as expected. |
| 02:11.45 | tempuser | anyone ever hear of such blastphemy? |
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| 02:12.05 | tempuser | s/staton/static on/ |
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| 02:12.55 | tempuser | dload speeds would be around 100KB/s then after 5-7 seconds they dload speeds would drop to ~200b/s |
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| 02:21.11 | franc | I need helpppp |
| 02:21.29 | franc | When I do 'dpkg --get-selections' it says that all the files are 'deinstall', does anyone know how to change that? |
| 02:22.36 | tuantub | octo_: others can only enter your dirs when they know "exact" the name of the directories under your home directory |
| 02:23.51 | octo_ | true |
| 02:24.03 | octo_ | still scary |
| 02:24.24 | lordlicorice | does anyone else's dejavu-sans display non-western characters? |
| 02:24.28 | lordlicorice | obvious example http://2ch.net/ |
| 02:24.36 | lordlicorice | do you just see boxes with hex digits? |
| 02:24.40 | Sergio` | octo_: maybe 700 would solve your problem. |
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| 02:26.29 | franc | When I do 'dpkg --get-selections' it says that all the files are 'deinstall', does anyone know how to change that? |
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| 02:28.14 | markybob | i doubt that. and if that is the case, fuck, you fucked shit up bad. we're talking fubar |
| 02:29.14 | stew | franc: really all? or just lots? |
| 02:29.17 | stew | oh he's gone |
| 02:29.23 | stew | too bad, its easily fixed |
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| 02:29.40 | markybob | stew, apparently i scare people :( |
| 02:29.41 | simonrvn | franc: try running aptitude; first go to the options and disable auto. remove unused packages and install recommends auto.. *then* deal with the package situation. it's easier with the aptitude ui |
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| 02:29.54 | simonrvn | stew: what's your idea? |
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| 02:30.10 | stew | simonrvn: its easy to get a list of installed packages and mark them as install |
| 02:30.52 | stew | simonrvn: aptitude search '~i' -F "%p install" | dpkg --set-selections |
| 02:30.55 | simonrvn | dpkg -l | grep '^.i' then mark those with --set-selections ? |
| 02:30.55 | dpkg | ii | grep '^.i' then mark those with --set-selections 1.3-1.1 simonrvn's private gamp collection |
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| 02:31.18 | simonrvn | even better. nice |
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| 02:35.29 | krisfremen | hello all |
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| 02:37.34 | KavanS | 3 |
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| 02:40.27 | belak | Anyone know of a good cd burner that works with m3u playlists? |
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| 02:46.14 | markybob | belak brasero |
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| 02:47.04 | belak | markybob: oh, that makes me mad. I can't believe I didn't try that |
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| 02:50.36 | belak | markybob: I'd use k3b, but there's a bug on there keeping me from using it... that's been open since 2004 and before |
| 02:50.51 | belak | markybob: thanks |
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| 02:50.56 | Ronis_BR | hi all |
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| 02:51.13 | Ronis_BR | graphical installer doesn't start on testing netinst. Does anyone know about that? |
| 02:52.27 | markybob | Ronis_BR, did you choose it in the startup menu? |
| 02:52.38 | markybob | Ronis_BR, you're not using netinst and hoping for gtk, are you? |
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| 02:54.25 | Ronis_BR | markybob: yes I am :D |
| 02:54.44 | Ronis_BR | markybob: I'm installing with ncurses by now, but gtk would be fine :D |
| 02:54.52 | markybob | Ronis_BR, well, netinst doesnt have gtk |
| 02:55.15 | Ronis_BR | markybob: ok, thanks :) |
| 02:55.23 | Ronis_BR | but has ext4! :D |
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| 02:56.20 | markybob | Ronis_BR, sure. netinst is meant to be minimal. it'll never have X and gtk |
| 02:56.32 | Ronis_BR | goo |
| 02:56.34 | Ronis_BR | good* |
| 02:56.50 | Ronis_BR | but it has the option Graphical Installer |
| 02:58.56 | Ronis_BR | markybob: netinst stable has graphical installer |
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| 03:00.48 | crowbar | I just installed lenny on a new LVM partition using the guided installer. I didn't notice during hte install, but is there a way to reduce the size of the root parition in the lvm install? it took up 100% of my VG and I'd prefer it to only take 20 GB (instead of 1TB) |
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| 03:04.11 | markybob | crowbar, not in that case |
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| 03:07.10 | stew | uhh, the netinst definately has a graphical installer |
| 03:07.34 | benedikt | isnt ncurses graphical enough for you? :P |
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| 03:07.58 | stew | it is |
| 03:08.19 | stew | crowbar: yes, you can shrink it, but not while using it, you'll have to boot some other install/cd first |
| 03:08.46 | stew | crowbar: but you can use resize2fs to resize the filesystem (assuming ext2/ext3), then use lvreduce to resize the lv after the filesystem is smaller |
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| 03:24.02 | benedikt | blinking capslock and numlock and scoll lock equals kernel panic right? |
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| 03:26.14 | LtL | benedikt: I've had bad keyboards do the same thing. |
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| 03:27.14 | benedikt | LtL: its a laptop and the whole system freezes up. it doenst even write to the logs |
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| 03:28.38 | LtL | benedikt: that doesn't sound good, reboot and type 'last |less' in a term. it might give you a reason. |
| 03:29.15 | benedikt | nope.. but just learned about hte sysrq key to force it to write unwritten data to the disk. im gonna try that next time if it happens again |
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| 03:40.17 | Angevin | Debian has so many third party packages without the integrated core security features of OpenBSD (that prevents applications from compromising the system) that it cannot possibly be secure now matter how much you retards prattle on about 'stable old packages' |
| 03:42.21 | Kamping_Kaiser | are you our troll for today? |
| 03:42.22 | Angevin | s/now/no/g |
| 03:42.53 | stew | Angevin: there is no need for calling anyone a retard... |
| 03:43.03 | stew | Angevin: please keep your comments constructive and on-topic |
| 03:43.09 | Angevin | kamping_Kaiser I see 'trolling' with objective facts of reality differetn from simply trolling |
| 03:43.24 | stew | Angevin: do you have a debian support related question? |
| 03:43.24 | Angevin | s/ differetn/different/ |
| 03:43.43 | benedikt | whats the reason for this sudden outburst? |
| 03:44.06 | Angevin | stew no I'm an openbsd user and openbsd is made for developers by developers which means I know what I am doing so I never have to ask questions |
| 03:44.32 | stew | Angevin: you are in the wrong channel then |
| 03:44.40 | stew | Angevin: you could try perhaps #debian-offtopic |
| 03:45.40 | Angevin | stew SSL/SSH debachle old news but still one would have to be insane to trust the debian development model after that |
| 03:46.24 | benedikt | the troll has left the building |
| 03:46.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | what a short stay :( |
| 03:47.33 | dbuduru | Not sure if I can ask my question in the midst of the this interesting converasation.. but I will give it a shot.. |
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| 03:48.20 | dbuduru | I am running debian as a host OS on my windows XP machine.. the virtual hardrive that I initially created ran out of space and I added a slave drive for debian... |
| 03:49.03 | Penix | Angevin: many of us use both systems. stfu and tell someone who cares. that ain't us |
| 03:49.13 | benedikt | Penix: he's gone. |
| 03:49.29 | dbuduru | I am not sure how I can use the space on the slave drive, I keep getting the message that the file system is full.. I was wondering if you can help me use the slave drive storage.. |
| 03:49.56 | benedikt | dbuduru: just mount it as /media/slave or something |
| 03:50.53 | \amethyst | dbuduru: unless you did an LVM install, you can't just tack it as extra freespace onto your existing filesystem |
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| 03:51.37 | \amethyst | dbuduru: you'll have to mount it somewhere, move a big directory there, and remount it where the big directory was |
| 03:52.06 | \amethyst | dbuduru: /home is a popular choice, but it will depend on your usage patterns |
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| 03:53.03 | dbuduru | benedikt and \amethyst: Thanks ! I mounted it to a directory under root.. I should probably mount it to a folder under my home direcoty and use the new space.. |
| 03:53.06 | \amethyst | dbuduru: it might be easier to use dd in the Debian guest to clone the disk image to the larger virtual disk disk, then to enlarge the partition and resize the filesystem |
| 03:53.54 | dbuduru | great ideas, thanks folks ! |
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| 04:04.42 | monkeyman | hi everybody, is there a way to stream audio and videos to ipod touch in debian? |
| 04:06.43 | somiaj | monkeyman: do you nkow what sort of media servers the ipod touch and stream from? I know that rythembox or mediatomb can both act as streaming media servers |
| 04:08.19 | monkeyman | somiaj: no i dont, but i know about mediatomb which i use to stream to ps3. |
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| 04:08.43 | CodeNinja | when I try to shutdown, I get 'process "single" exited outside of expected code flow.\nPress control-D to continue or give root password for maintenance" never works though, get stuck into the same problem all the time, how can I fix this? |
| 04:08.58 | paipimenta | what is Debian Sarge, previous version to Lenny? |
| 04:09.19 | somiaj | paipimenta: yea, its an old stable. http://www.debian.org/releases/ |
| 04:09.53 | paipimenta | somiaj: so, Lenny:Fedora::Sarge:RHEL (stability wise?) |
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| 04:10.37 | somiaj | monkeyman: yea I'm not sure if/what media servers an ipod touch can stream from. You could also see if anything works with libgpod |
| 04:10.46 | paipimenta | CodeNinja: press and hold power :-D |
| 04:10.56 | paipimenta | sudo shutdown? |
| 04:11.12 | paipimenta | j/k.... have you tried (what's that process listing command?) |
| 04:11.23 | Manoj | ps? |
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| 04:11.26 | Manoj | top? |
| 04:11.32 | somiaj | paipimenta: what do you mean? sarge is an obsolete stable, yes it was stable at the time, but since its obsolete no security updates are made for it,and there have been a good number of security updates since then. |
| 04:11.36 | CodeNinja | paipimenta: what if I'm not near the computer, can't hold the power button |
| 04:11.53 | CodeNinja | and its in the middle of shutdown that it does it |
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| 04:12.37 | paipimenta | does it say the exact same thing when you press Ctrl+D? |
| 04:12.54 | CodeNinja | if I ctrl+d, it starts the computer back up from where single exited, if I give root password the computer drops to root right there |
| 04:12.57 | monkeyman | somiaj: thanks for your help |
| 04:13.15 | paipimenta | drops to root prompt? |
| 04:14.44 | somiaj | paipimenta: the stability standards and how packages are 'frozen' in the stable versions have not changed in debian. Hope that helps |
| 04:15.05 | Manoj | sounds like what happens when fsck fails, and the machine drops into single user mode at startup to correct that |
| 04:15.58 | paipimenta | somiaj: helps a lot, thanks... I was reading a howtoforge on virtualizing WinXP in Sarge, but should totally apply in lenny? also, does the room agree with VMWare over VirtualBox? haven't had any luck with Xen |
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| 04:16.45 | paipimenta | CodeNinja: so what happens when you give root pass, drop to prompt, then root#shutdown? |
| 04:16.55 | somiaj | paipimenta: I think VirtualBox is great and use it in sid and am happy with the results. |
| 04:16.58 | Manoj | vmware is not free (I prefer kvm to run my virtual machines0 |
| 04:17.36 | somiaj | paipimenta: the issue is going to be lenny is going to have a different package base, so depending on how much the things you want have evolved could cause a few issues, and as for Xen its more for virtuilizing servers. |
| 04:17.50 | superjet_busy | gthumb or can't find cups printer, however gnome-control-center do, where is the problem? |
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| 04:18.43 | CodeNinja | paipimenta: it runs into the same problem |
| 04:18.48 | somiaj | paipimenta: But it depends on what your trying to virtualize..VMware is a good vm tool, and is versitile but it isn't free. |
| 04:18.49 | paipimenta | Manoj: so with an .iso file, I can load it up in kvm? |
| 04:19.10 | paipimenta | isn't some VMWare Server for Linux free, as in beer? |
| 04:19.49 | somiaj | paipimenta: I know that VirtualBox allows you to mount an iso and treat it as a cd rom drive to the virtualized os |
| 04:20.02 | Manoj | paipimenta: Sure. kvm takes anything qemu could, and that includes booting up from a CD/iso |
| 04:20.17 | somiaj | paipimenta: and if I recall, the player is 'free as beer' in linux, but the tools to manage the vm images isn't. |
| 04:20.26 | somiaj | paipimenta: for VMware |
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| 04:20.47 | paipimenta | what if I wanted to install an iso file to a partition? pxe? |
| 04:20.50 | Manoj | paipimenta: free as in beer is not freedom; and since there are free solutions (virtualbox is free, though I have not tried that) |
| 04:21.33 | paipimenta | well, if I'm going to be learning VBA for work, beer is more important than speech until I can code well enough to be more picky about jobs |
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| 04:23.29 | paipimenta | wow... virtualbox is GPLv2? what's the freedom downer versus kvm or other free's? |
| 04:23.39 | CodeNinja | I got the best of both worlds, code and server management, hosting company ++ |
| 04:23.41 | paipimenta | I thought it was gonna be some Sun open source license |
| 04:24.04 | paipimenta | CodeNinja: :-= |
| 04:24.09 | CodeNinja | paipimenta: virtualbox has been great for me, I can run 2 at the same time if I'm not using X |
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| 04:24.20 | CodeNinja | and on a laptop with low swap |
| 04:24.46 | paipimenta | although, I do have an over the hill (in dog years) Compaq Presario Athlon XP, hence the desire not to virtualize |
| 04:24.57 | somiaj | well it depends on what yoru going to virtualize. If you want to virtualize multiple linux servers I'd say go with Xen. VirtualBox is far better for desktops in my limited experience. |
| 04:26.38 | paipimenta | yeah, i basically want XP with office 2003 to make a development playground for VBA and VB.NET (would love to run through a certification book while I'm at it, too... but that might require multiple XP vm's) |
| 04:27.55 | somiaj | if you just want office, you may find crossover office (or even a mondern wine) may be more helpful than virtualizing the whole of windows. |
| 04:29.02 | paipimenta | hmmm... wine and cross-app VBA programming recommended? |
| 04:29.14 | Manoj | wine is a security risk |
| 04:29.41 | paipimenta | how so? |
| 04:29.45 | Manoj | heard tell of wine allowing infection by virii (though I would take that with a grain od salt) |
| 04:29.53 | Manoj | s/od/of/ |
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| 04:32.01 | CodeNinja | got almost all the problems ironed out of my server, that shutdown problem, and a few other small issues to work out still |
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| 04:39.37 | salmondine | ok fixed it, uninstalled Lenny and reinstalled PCLinux2007 |
| 04:40.12 | salmondine | I try it again in a year or so |
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| 04:42.04 | Manoj | Ah. I heard it on /. (http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/10/24/1759213/Now-Linux-Can-Get-Viruses-Via-Wine) |
| 04:44.15 | paipimenta | welp, guess you'll be #PCLinux2007 ing for a year :-D |
| 04:45.21 | salmondine | I guess, ppp was a no go with serial port modem |
| 04:45.45 | paipimenta | Manoj: so, same threat applies to installs on a separate partition, but not in virtualization?\ |
| 04:46.30 | salmondine | to bad because I have need of an os that will use serial port modem AND compile |
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| 04:48.24 | Manoj | paipimenta: Hmm? |
| 04:49.25 | NiLon | wine is really making real windows env :D |
| 04:50.36 | Manoj | and sure, you run windows virtualized, you can trash your virtual windows box too. But there is a bigger gap between your host and a virtual machine |
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| 04:55.07 | monkeyman | NiLon: it's making linux drunk into thinking it's windows, lol |
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| 04:58.12 | somiaj | its an improper solution to cross platform software, but it works for our current delima |
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| 04:59.09 | CodeNinja | I'm trying to get iptables to log to /var/log/iptables/incoming.log /var/log/iptables/outgoing.log I'm using :msg, startswith, "[IPTABLES]Incoming Rejected: " -/var/log/iptables/incoming.log Outgoing Rejected for /var/log/outgoing.log but nothing is being filtered from syslog/dmesg. debian lenny |
| 04:59.49 | CodeNinja | also, I don't consider debians 'improvement' on moving these logs into syslog/dmesg an improvement :( |
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| 05:01.11 | davey | hi guys |
| 05:01.25 | davey | what is the dpo option in my grub? |
| 05:01.39 | davey | i can delete that without problems? |
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| 05:02.08 | davey | somebody?.... |
| 05:02.44 | monkeyman | do i really need noscript for iceweasel/firefox in linux? i understand that i would need it for windows but isn't linux secure enough not to worry about noscript extension? |
| 05:03.09 | davey | what is the dpo option in my grub? |
| 05:03.14 | davey | i can delete that without problems? |
| 05:03.20 | CodeNinja | monkeyman: I use it, speeds up load times so I can remove ads that I don't like seeing/taking up my bandwidth |
| 05:03.44 | CodeNinja | its more than just security, its speed |
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| 05:04.23 | \amethyst | monkeyman: the javascript interpreter in Linux Firefox is the same one as in Windows Firefox |
| 05:04.45 | \amethyst | monkeyman: just about any cross-site scripting bug etc that affects one will affect the other |
| 05:05.31 | \amethyst | monkeyman: e.g. the recent reddit virus |
| 05:05.56 | monkeyman | CodeNinja: i understand that but do i really need it if i'm willing to sacrifice the speed of loading web pages |
| 05:06.09 | \amethyst | (though if you did use reddit, you'd probably have its scripts allowed, so it wouldn't have helped) |
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| 05:06.33 | \amethyst | monkeyman: if you would use it on Windows, you should use it on Linux too |
| 05:06.33 | monkeyman | amethyst: oh ok |
| 05:06.50 | davey | i want only 1 option in my grb.. (linux) but i have other with "dpo" in the name.. what is that option? |
| 05:06.53 | somiaj | monkeyman: the difference is by default your user won't be able to write to system files in linux while it can in windows. So an exploit to javascript/firefox can't do as much as it can on a default windows user |
| 05:07.25 | CodeNinja | buah! success! iptables logging++ |
| 05:07.40 | somiaj | monkeyman: unless of course there is a setuid or some sort of vunlability in firefox. |
| 05:07.50 | Vasistha | davey: no idea! why don't you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 05:08.06 | davey | i do that.. |
| 05:08.09 | davey | i have this |
| 05:08.14 | davey | initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.29-bpo.2-686 |
| 05:08.18 | davey | and this: |
| 05:08.26 | Vasistha | !paste |
| 05:08.26 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>. |
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| 05:08.29 | davey | initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-686 |
| 05:08.53 | davey | what is the direfence? what option i must delete? |
| 05:08.54 | Vasistha | davey: well the 2.6.29 is from backports.org. The other one is the debian stock kernel. |
| 05:08.56 | hd409 | hello guys k3b is a good burner for lenny debian? im apt-get it right now.or there is other cool burner? |
| 05:09.07 | Vasistha | davey: which one do you use? |
| 05:09.13 | davey | i want only one |
| 05:09.20 | hd409 | hello guys k3b is a good burner for lenny debian? im apt-get it right now.or there is other cool burner?im using gnome btw |
| 05:09.21 | Vasistha | hd409: if you're using kde I'd go with k3b, it's good. |
| 05:09.28 | Vasistha | !tell hd409 about repeat |
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| 05:09.41 | davey | i dont know the normal, default.. i dont know.. i just want 1 option ... :( |
| 05:09.44 | hd409 | Vasistha : sorry i added the last part gnome |
| 05:09.51 | hd409 | Vasistha: gnome |
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| 05:10.20 | Vasistha | davey: okay, there is a saucepan and a skillet in your kitchen, but you want only one. Which one do you throw out, the saucepan or the skillet? They are good for different things. Which one do you use? |
| 05:11.10 | \amethyst | Vasistha: you use the one that matches the finish on the stand mixer, duh |
| 05:11.12 | Vasistha | hd409: k3b will probably work in gnome, I don't know if there's a gnome cd burning program that's as good as k3b. Maybe as on irc.gnome.org or something |
| 05:11.23 | davey | my selection time is 5 seconds.. i never choose one.. the system load the default.. |
| 05:11.36 | monkeyman | on another note, do i need to worry about any security vulnerabilities when i'm opening video files in linux because a few years ago, they found a vulnerability with wmv files that are opened in windows media player? |
| 05:11.40 | hd409 | thanks :) |
| 05:11.41 | Vasistha | davey: what does uname -r say? |
| 05:12.11 | \amethyst | monkeyman: a similar exploit for Linux would be possible |
| 05:12.11 | davey | i just need to know if i can delete 1... |
| 05:12.25 | Vasistha | davey: well, if you delete the only one that works, that could be bad. |
| 05:12.42 | davey | ... :( |
| 05:12.42 | davey | linux/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.29-bpo.2-686 root=UUID=f0efa042-e954-43f7-9eec-9cfcaf9388eb ro splash quiet vga=791 |
| 05:12.43 | davey | initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.29-bpo.2-686 |
| 05:12.46 | davey | that is one.. |
| 05:12.57 | Vasistha | davey: here's another suggestion: what if you set up grub so as not to display the menu? |
| 05:12.59 | davey | linux/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.29-bpo.2-686 root=UUID=f0efa042-e954-43f7-9eec-9cfcaf9388eb ro single |
| 05:12.59 | davey | initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.29-bpo.2-686 |
| 05:13.02 | davey | that is the other |
| 05:13.06 | \amethyst | monkeyman: however, any malicious code deployed would have to be OS-specific |
| 05:13.08 | Vasistha | dude, stop pasting in-chan |
| 05:14.11 | davey | mmmm i dont know becouse i have other machine with w$ & linux and i have the same problem... |
| 05:14.11 | monkeyman | \amethyst: but at the moment, there's no threat discovered with video files in linux? |
| 05:14.29 | davey | 1 w$ option and 2 for linux |
| 05:14.33 | \amethyst | monkeyman: not that I know of |
| 05:14.56 | Vasistha | monkeyman: linux is more secure than windows, but it is not 100% secure. Most of us probably watch videos without thinking about it. But we also keep our systems up-to-date. |
| 05:15.00 | \amethyst | monkeyman: you can search cve.mitre.org I believe |
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| 05:15.45 | davey | and i want to know how i can fix this.. well i go to edit my grub.cfg and delete de option that have "DPO" |
| 05:16.07 | Vasistha | davey: would you please execute uname -r |
| 05:16.12 | joepa_ | anyone know how to add a reference without a sitation in bibtex? |
| 05:16.21 | davey | ok |
| 05:16.31 | monkeyman | \amethyst: thanks for the info, i'm really paranoid sometimes, lol and i like watching videos too |
| 05:17.05 | \amethyst | joepa_: \cite{foo}\kill on its own line at the end of the document maybe? |
| 05:17.20 | monkeyman | Vasistha: thanks for your feedback on this |
| 05:17.35 | Vasistha | davey: here's the thing. If you remove one of the kernels and then update your system and something breaks, it's REALLY NICE to have the other kernel there as an easy option to boot. |
| 05:17.39 | davey | return 2.6.29-bpo.2-686 |
| 05:18.15 | davey | mmmmmm |
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| 05:18.51 | davey | so like a rescue ...} |
| 05:18.51 | Vasistha | davey: so you're running a backported kernel. I have no idea if you have good reason to be doing so, but you're doing it. If you update your system and get a newer backported kernel and remove the old one and it breaks, wouldn't you like your boot menu to have a working kernel listed there that can save your ass? |
| 05:19.55 | Vasistha | davey: there are a number of things you can do to "hide" the other one. You can give it a different name. You can hide the menu entirely. You can just ignore it and not worry about seeing something that you deem visually unpleasant for a whopping 5 seconds |
| 05:20.27 | Vasistha | I mean, really, what's the big deal, man? :) |
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| 05:21.12 | davey__ | ok that is ok.. well the laptop of my girlf have 4 entries for one linux.... why 4? |
| 05:21.55 | Vasistha | davey__: maybe two different kernels, and each one has an option to boot into single-user mode. I think mine has that. Maybe one is an old one that never got removed automatically or manually. |
| 05:22.11 | davey__ | i can understand that 1 is for rescue.. but 3...? |
| 05:22.39 | davey__ | mmmm that is the diference : |
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| 05:22.46 | Vasistha | davey__: there's definitely a time and a place to remove old entries (although it's usually better practice to remove the kernels that the entries are for, when they're no longer needed, and let grub-update remove the entries automatically) |
| 05:23.01 | davey__ | ro splash quiet vga=791 |
| 05:23.23 | davey__ | ro single |
| 05:23.56 | Vasistha | davey__: the ro means load the root filesystem read-only at first so it can do a filesystem check before going read-write mode. Splash means, put up a splash screen. Quiet means don't show so many extraneous system log messages. vga=791 means use high-resolution textmode. |
| 05:24.22 | Vasistha | davey__: and 'single' means boot single user mode, aka runlevel 1 |
| 05:25.35 | Vasistha | davey__: there is a grub option to not display the menu, which instead just puts a little note on the screen that says "grub will automatically boot in 5 seconds, press [Esc] to see the menu" |
| 05:25.38 | Vasistha | or something like that |
| 05:25.58 | Vasistha | honestly, I think that's a better option for you :) |
| 05:26.41 | davey__ | soo what is the best choice for a user with all access in the os? she just want 1 or 2 options(rescue i know that now) and W$ option |
| 05:26.49 | CodeNinja | could someone tell me what IP devnetonline.net resolves to? |
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| 05:27.27 | davey__ | but her laptop have 5.. 1 for win and 4 for linux |
| 05:27.55 | CodeNinja | davey__: 2 of them are probably from older kernel versions, pastie your /etc/grub/menu.lst |
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| 05:28.26 | davey__ | done |
| 05:28.37 | CodeNinja | links are useful |
| 05:29.48 | CodeNinja | davey__: where is it |
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| 05:30.03 | davey__ | you want to see the 5 options in my grub? |
| 05:30.33 | CodeNinja | copy and paste your /etc/grub/menu.lst into http://www.pastie.org then paste the link here |
| 05:30.35 | davey__ | she laptop options: |
| 05:30.38 | davey__ | one: linux/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.29-bpo.2-686 root=UUID=f0efa042-e954-43f7-9eec-9cfcaf9388eb ro splash quiet vga=791 |
| 05:30.39 | davey__ | initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.29-bpo.2-686 |
| 05:30.43 | CodeNinja | facepalm |
| 05:30.51 | davey__ | two: linux/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.29-bpo.2-686 root=UUID=f0efa042-e954-43f7-9eec-9cfcaf9388eb ro single |
| 05:30.52 | davey__ | initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.29-bpo.2-686 |
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| 05:31.09 | Vasistha | !tell davey__ about paste |
| 05:31.16 | davey__ | 3: linux/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 root=UUID=f0efa042-e954-43f7-9eec-9cfcaf9388eb ro splash quiet vga=791 |
| 05:31.16 | davey__ | initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-686 |
| 05:31.22 | CodeNinja | omg |
| 05:31.30 | davey__ | 4;: linux/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 root=UUID=f0efa042-e954-43f7-9eec-9cfcaf9388eb ro single |
| 05:31.31 | davey__ | initrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-686 |
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| 05:32.06 | davey__ | 5 : W$... |
| 05:32.10 | Vasistha | davey__: okay, I am not going to help you until you figure out how to use the pastebin |
| 05:32.16 | CodeNinja | indeed |
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| 05:32.41 | sway | davey__: are there still 5? |
| 05:32.52 | davey__ | just 5.. |
| 05:33.00 | sway | still, huh? |
| 05:33.22 | davey__ | menuentry "Windows Vista/Longhorn (loader) (on /dev/sda1)" { |
| 05:33.22 | davey__ | set root=(hd0,1) |
| 05:33.22 | davey__ | chainloader +1 |
| 05:33.30 | davey__ | the other option |
| 05:33.33 | Vasistha | davey__: use the pastebin!!!!!!!! |
| 05:33.46 | sway | heh |
| 05:34.35 | mhymn | that's not funny |
| 05:34.57 | sway | ok. |
| 05:35.19 | sway | i don't know how to paste. or copy for that matter. yet. |
| 05:36.20 | CodeNinja | context+c/context+p/ |
| 05:36.21 | CodeNinja | ? |
| 05:36.34 | sway | i don't have a context button? |
| 05:36.40 | CodeNinja | alt? |
| 05:36.45 | CodeNinja | ctrl? |
| 05:36.49 | sway | thank you |
| 05:36.58 | davey__ | no idea? i dont know what do u mean i am new using this app :S |
| 05:38.43 | sway | alt+c doesn't work for me and ctrl+c looks like it's a break |
| 05:40.11 | CodeNinja | sway: I have a context button, its on the right between alt and ctrl, I use that and c/p in gnome-terminal |
| 05:40.19 | Vasistha | sway: ctrl+insert / shift+insert |
| 05:40.19 | CodeNinja | I don't know how to copy paste in a tty |
| 05:40.24 | CodeNinja | ah |
| 05:40.40 | Vasistha | ctrl+insert sometimes doesn't work as root :P and it's different with screen running |
| 05:40.42 | Vasistha | maybe. |
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| 05:40.58 | guzu | hello all |
| 05:40.59 | sway | thank you guys |
| 05:41.20 | Vasistha | davey__: if you will just use a pastebin then we will be happy to help you. Do you understand how to use a pastebin? |
| 05:41.27 | guzu | how do i add the login manager and xwindows after installing 5.0.3 from netinst? |
| 05:41.58 | davey__ | Vasistha this? |
| 05:42.03 | davey__ | :S |
| 05:42.08 | Vasistha | guzu: depends which desktop you want... there are various ways |
| 05:42.26 | guzu | Vasistha, i have only 128 mb of ram, so maybe lxde |
| 05:42.30 | davey__ | Vasisthai dont know :S |
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| 05:43.58 | mhymn | guzu: so you don't know how to install packages? |
| 05:44.00 | balla | when i try to use the netinst on a USB flash drive to install debian, i get "no common cd-rm drive was detected." how can i get around this? my netbook has no cd-rom drive... |
| 05:44.04 | Vasistha | davey__: go to http://paste.debian.net/ and then below the big text area press the button to choose a file. Navigate to your /boot/grub/menu.lst and then upload it, and paste the link here in the channel. |
| 05:44.13 | Vasistha | davey__: and please don't /msg me ;) |
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| 05:44.29 | guzu | mhymn, i don't know the packages names |
| 05:44.35 | davey__ | xD ok |
| 05:44.52 | Vasistha | guzu: just open up aptitude, search for lxde and install it. Do you know how to use aptitude? |
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| 05:45.02 | mhymn | guzu: or use apt-cache search |
| 05:45.23 | balla | when i try to use the netinst on a USB flash drive to install debian, i get "no common cd-rm drive was detected." how can i get around this? my netbook has no cd-rom drive... |
| 05:45.46 | Vasistha | !tell balla about repeat |
| 05:45.50 | tedechpot | Hi, i am running azureus in console mode or rtorrent on a virtual debain lenny server. i have a problem with the "Total size of receive buffers of UDP and other datagram protocols" dgramrcvbuf of the virtual machine .. after some time (days) the buffer is at its limit .. and the buffer goes down to zero if i kill azureus or rtorrent .. has someone an idea where the problem could be? and how to fix this? |
| 05:45.51 | guzu | Vasistha, mhymn i tried aptitude install xwindows and it didn't find the package but: it wants to remove 88 packages ?!? |
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| 05:46.18 | Vasistha | guzu: have you been using apt-get for some things? |
| 05:46.25 | mhymn | dpkg: tell davey__ about pastebinit |
| 05:46.29 | balla | Vasistha: none of those apply, thanks |
| 05:46.44 | guzu | Vasistha, no, it' afresh install |
| 05:47.05 | Kamping_Kaiser | try server-xorg |
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| 05:47.25 | guzu | Kamping_Kaiser, thnx |
| 05:47.25 | Kamping_Kaiser | or xorg |
| 05:47.29 | mhymn | guzu: you don't know the name of the package so you should search to find it |
| 05:47.29 | guzu | ok |
| 05:47.41 | Vasistha | guzu: huh, strange. Well, at any rate, I would recommend starting up the aptitude front-end by just typing 'aptitude' as root, and then find the packages it's trying to remove and mark them as manually installed |
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| 05:47.54 | balla | how is this a difficult question? |
| 05:47.59 | guzu | mhymn, ok |
| 05:48.13 | balla | 850+ debian users, not one of them knows how to do an install via flash drive |
| 05:48.14 | balla | lolol |
| 05:48.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | i'm not interested in helping while you ponce around like that |
| 05:48.40 | guzu | Vasistha, also, trying to install slim, warned slim is not authenticated and eventually failed (mirror server error) |
| 05:48.52 | Vasistha | balla: I'm kinda busy helping other people right now. I might be happy to help you, but I'm less inclined to do so if you make a nuisance of yourself in the channel |
| 05:49.04 | Kamping_Kaiser | guzu: have you updated your package lists since installing? |
| 05:49.09 | mhymn | balla: /msg dpkg usb install |
| 05:49.48 | davey__ | this is the grub.cfg of my girlfriend laptop: http://paste.debian.net/49867/ |
| 05:50.07 | guzu | Kamping_Kaiser, no, it's the first system run (except the second install phase when i presumebly installed "desktop" from mirror) |
| 05:50.23 | davey__ | she have many options to boot and she just want reduce that... |
| 05:50.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | guzu: you'll want to run `apt-get update` before installing any packages to ensure your list is up to date |
| 05:50.37 | mhymn | davey__: what debian version are you using? |
| 05:50.41 | Vasistha | davey__: uh, grub.cfg ? we use menu.lst for debian. it looks like you're not really using debian. |
| 05:50.49 | balla | netboot/mini.iso |
| 05:50.53 | davey__ | iam using debian |
| 05:50.56 | balla | is that sufficient for a usb install? |
| 05:51.11 | mhymn | davey__: then what version? |
| 05:51.20 | davey__ | this is a version custom in my country |
| 05:51.33 | davey__ | something else :S |
| 05:51.50 | mhymn | davey__: ask your questions in your distro channel then |
| 05:52.00 | Vasistha | davey__: well, they have done some weird configuration things that we are not familiar with. I've been using debian several years, but I have never seen a grub configuration file like that. |
| 05:52.06 | guzu | Kamping_Kaiser, looks like the mirror has problems . i'll try changing the mirror in any conf file is in /etc |
| 05:52.22 | Vasistha | !tell davey__ about based on debian |
| 05:52.25 | balla | congratulations, you have been the largest group of incompetent retards i have come across all week. thanks, #debian |
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| 05:52.28 | Kamping_Kaiser | guzu: /etc/apt/sources.list is the file |
| 05:52.36 | guzu | Kamping_Kaiser, thnx a lot |
| 05:52.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | guzu: np. |
| 05:52.47 | Kamping_Kaiser | watches balla split and smiles |
| 05:52.57 | Vasistha | #debian on saturday. always the best and the brightest. |
| 05:53.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | Vasistha: its grub2 |
| 05:53.21 | Kamping_Kaiser | (the config file) |
| 05:53.30 | Kamping_Kaiser | sorry, i just had time to look at it |
| 05:53.37 | davey__ | them i must install debian original ? this machines comes with that custom debian |
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| 05:54.13 | Vasistha | Kamping_Kaiser: nice. is it standard for squeeze? |
| 05:54.16 | mhymn | davey__: what does 'lsb_release -a' tell you? |
| 05:54.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | Vasistha: its supposed to be, but only if its working clrrectly |
| 05:54.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | davey__: you only have 5 entries, and one is 'doze. |
| 05:54.59 | Kamping_Kaiser | davey__: but you should really be asking you distros channel :) |
| 05:55.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | davey__: you could comment out the recovery entries, or remove the old kernel (free advice for today) |
| 05:55.22 | davey__ | them have a good channel.. few pple.. |
| 05:55.41 | davey__ | and the system is debian... custom.. but debian :( |
| 05:56.00 | Kamping_Kaiser | ref the based on debian you got sent before, if its based on its not debian :) |
| 05:56.16 | davey__ | i want install full original debian.. not this .. :( but the machinescomes with this. :( |
| 05:56.17 | Kamping_Kaiser | by the look of it $yourdistro uses backports.org kernels too |
| 05:56.32 | Vasistha | davey__: here's the thing. it looks like your variant is using a backported kernel by default. I don't know if that's a wise choice or what. I don't know if some packages in your debian variant depend on the backported kernel. I don't know if removing the backported kernel might make you unable to use some device. |
| 05:57.35 | Vasistha | davey__: perhaps canaima tries to make it easy to switch to regular debian. One indication is ... run dpkg -l libc6 and tell us what version you have, e.g. 2.6-38 |
| 05:57.46 | guzu | Vasistha, ok, i'm removing some *gnome* things. the system was (already) updated |
| 05:57.49 | davey__ | uuuh.. i must format my disc soo and install offcial ver... |
| 05:58.48 | davey__ | 2.7-18 |
| 05:58.51 | Vasistha | davey__: depends on the distro. Some distros try to make it easy to switch to stock debian... it may be that you are already using debian repos in addition to a canaima repo. |
| 05:59.19 | Vasistha | davey__: nice, it looks like canaima is based on debian stable (of course, the fact that it was using the debian stable kernel as well as backports was already a good indication of that) |
| 05:59.33 | Vasistha | davey__: another thing you can do is pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 05:59.49 | davey__ | k |
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| 06:00.17 | Kamping_Kaiser | install the 'pastebinit' tool if you don't have it. its win. |
| 06:00.39 | mhymn | if only he could read what he's told |
| 06:01.12 | Vasistha | huh, nice, it looks like canaima is almost supportable in here. davey__ you should check this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/reviews/showproduct.php?product=1049 |
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| 06:01.43 | Vasistha | it's like the took debian and put a very thing wrapper around it. |
| 06:02.05 | Vasistha | dang, I am having trouble typing. |
| 06:02.45 | davey__ | here: http://paste.debian.net/49868/ |
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| 06:03.42 | Kamping_Kaiser | very thing wrapper *grin* |
| 06:03.45 | Kamping_Kaiser | *thin |
| 06:04.24 | Kamping_Kaiser | ironic that they have a decree about using open stuff and have contrib+non-free by default |
| 06:04.47 | Vasistha | well, contrib/non-free is probably better than ms |
| 06:05.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | I won't argue. |
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| 06:05.56 | mhymn | no contrib/non-free is probably better than contrib/non-free then. |
| 06:07.10 | davey__ | soo? is non-free? that is not good? |
| 06:07.15 | Vasistha | davey__: the thing is... you could remove or hide some of those entries, but whenever you upgrade your kernel (which should happen with automatic updates) it will put them all there again. If you don't mind doing that semi-regularly then it's not so bad. |
| 06:07.25 | Vasistha | davey__: don't worry about the non-free argument, it really doesn't matter :) |
| 06:07.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | (refering to the grub.cfg, not sources.list) |
| 06:08.21 | Vasistha | mhymn: when's the last time you tried to watch a youtube video with the gnash plugin? I tried last week and it failed. For myself, I won't install flash, but whenever I want to watch something I have to jump through hoops to download the thing and then watch it in mplayer |
| 06:10.05 | rabidweezle | thinks there is a "youtube downloader" plugin for firefox :/ |
| 06:10.12 | guzu | Kamping_Kaiser, Vasistha, mhymn help :) xorg locks my video card, how can i tell debian to start in text mode? |
| 06:10.20 | Vasistha | davey__: anyway, one thing that you can do that is probably fairly safe is to use "#" at the beginning of lines to comment them. In your paste http://paste.debian.net/49867/ you could comment lines 44-55 |
| 06:10.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | guzu: use 'single user' at the grub prompt |
| 06:10.38 | Vasistha | guzu: boot the menu option that says "single" |
| 06:10.44 | davey__ | ok.. i will do tks :) |
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| 06:10.49 | Vasistha | davey__: hear that advice I'm giving to guzu? |
| 06:10.58 | guzu | Kamping_Kaiser, Vasistha thnx a lot |
| 06:11.05 | rabidweezle | kinda misses the days of starting x with startx |
| 06:11.06 | Vasistha | davey__: if you were in that same fix it would be difficult to help you if you were to comment out those menu entries. |
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| 06:11.48 | Vasistha | davey__: so I still think it is very stupid and unadvisable to do what you are doing. I would really recommend just living with the 4 entries and not worrying about it. an extra few seconds each time you boot could save you a lot of hassle later. |
| 06:12.03 | davey__ | uuuh.. :( |
| 06:12.16 | davey__ | hhaha.. ok |
| 06:12.25 | davey__ | tks 4 the help |
| 06:12.28 | davey__ | other thing |
| 06:12.47 | sway | doesn't apt-get purge purge the kernel images which aren't presently being run? and their configurations, too? |
| 06:12.59 | sway | then the grub update thing. |
| 06:13.00 | mhymn | rabidweezle: and perhaps you miss configuring xorg.conf too! |
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| 06:13.08 | davey__ | i will install a official dist in other machine |
| 06:13.23 | rabidweezle | mhymn, I still have to configure it :/ |
| 06:13.30 | mhymn | ah |
| 06:13.39 | rabidweezle | well nvidia binary drivers do it for me, but still |
| 06:13.59 | k[t | update-rc.conf -f ?dm remove ; mv /etc/inittab /etc/inittab.bk ; sed 's/id:.:initdefault/id:1:initdefault/g' /etc/inittab > /etc/inittab |
| 06:14.09 | Vasistha | davey__: it's too bad there isn't more support, e.g. en espanol, for canaima. It actually looks like a nice variant that installs just a few extra goodies, without mucking up the system. |
| 06:14.25 | rabidweezle | remembers editing /etc/X11/xf86config.conf |
| 06:14.35 | rabidweezle | or something like that |
| 06:14.41 | xhairball | rabidweezle: remember editing modelines? Those were fun... |
| 06:14.51 | rabidweezle | nods |
| 06:15.04 | davey__ | well many pple here use that dist |
| 06:15.13 | guzu | eric raymond has a howto for this :) |
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| 06:15.20 | Vasistha | davey__: other "based on debian" distros (e.g. ubuntu) mess around with a lot of stuff and make the system very much unlike debian. If more distros were like canaima we could probably support them ... it'd be nice if we had a more flexible policy. |
| 06:15.40 | rabidweezle | I just left ubuntu :/ |
| 06:15.47 | davey__ | mmm |
| 06:15.48 | Vasistha | congratulations |
| 06:16.08 | rabidweezle | got more than a little angry at what they concider stable :/ |
| 06:16.12 | sway | and you remember editing starting x with start? |
| 06:16.24 | sway | ok. no more typing. |
| 06:16.37 | Vasistha | davey__: it's very frustrating to spend 1 hour trying to help someone troubleshoot a problem, and then find out that the thing is broken because of a problem with a package that's not in debian at all. |
| 06:16.46 | k[t | s/update-rc.conf/update-rc.d/ |
| 06:16.52 | davey__ | debia is much better that ubuntu ? i want install linux in my other laptop |
| 06:17.09 | Vasistha | davey__: well, here in #debian we usually recommend debian over ubuntu ;) |
| 06:17.18 | guzu | strange |
| 06:17.25 | mhymn | k[t: what are you talking about? |
| 06:17.46 | davey__ | i know that .. but why u' use debian and not ubuntu? |
| 06:17.56 | rabidweezle | I installed stable on this laptop, then just backported a newer kernel for the ath5k wireless and it's solid as a rock (x64 4 gigs of ram, nvidia, EVDO wireless broadband..) |
| 06:17.59 | davey__ | i just want to know more about :D |
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| 06:18.11 | Vasistha | guzu: have you managed to get aptitude configured so that it's not trying to automatically remove things? |
| 06:18.15 | mhymn | davey__: /msg dpkg why debian |
| 06:18.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | davey__: /msg the bot about why debian |
| 06:19.27 | guzu | Vasistha, no, but i let it remove those *gnome*things |
| 06:20.13 | rabidweezle | thinks his answer is debian was one of the first distros, the most stable distro I've ever seen, and the best package manager around... |
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| 06:20.37 | k[t | ? |
| 06:20.42 | rabidweezle | just my opinion |
| 06:20.44 | Vasistha | guzu: in the aptitude front end, when you press 'g' (for go) it should give you a screen that reviews the actions it's going to take. In your case, I guess it should show you a list of packages that it's going to remove automatically because they're no longer being used. You can go through the list and for the ones you want to keep, press "+" to keep them installed. |
| 06:20.49 | guzu | Vasistha, Kamping_Kaiser mhymn hooray! after putting driver vesa in xorg.conf, i can see slim! |
| 06:20.54 | Vasistha | woo! |
| 06:21.04 | guzu | amazing grace |
| 06:21.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | guzu: :D |
| 06:21.10 | rabidweezle | though there's only 2 distros I respect now... gentoo and debian |
| 06:21.24 | rabidweezle | that's about it |
| 06:21.25 | guzu | unfortunately now i have to catch a bus :( |
| 06:21.27 | Vasistha | rabidweezle: I have a friend who just loves arch |
| 06:21.42 | ngowial | history -c only works for a current konsole. when the konsole is closed and re-opened, all the executed commands are still there. how to fix this? |
| 06:21.45 | rabidweezle | I haven't tried it, but I have one of those friends too |
| 06:22.25 | mhymn | rabidweezle: but gentoo is responsible for global warming you know |
| 06:22.34 | \amethyst | ngowial: history -w to write out the history, or : > ~/.bashrc |
| 06:22.37 | guzu | Vasistha, Kamping_Kaiser mhymn thank you for all the help, i'll be back later, have a nice day! |
| 06:22.39 | guzu | bye |
| 06:22.51 | \amethyst | ngowial: oops |
| 06:22.54 | rabidweezle | from all that compile time eating all the oxygen in the room from the cpu running full speed for 3 days straight? |
| 06:22.59 | \amethyst | ngowial: ~/.bash_history, *NOT* ~/.bashrc |
| 06:23.25 | ngowial | \amethyst: history -c should work too, right? |
| 06:23.53 | \amethyst | ngowial: that changes the in-memory history list but doesn't change the history file |
| 06:23.58 | Vasistha | ngowial: well, if you have multiple terminals open with the same history, any one of them can save that history. it's actually kind of tricky to delete the history, uh, permanently |
| 06:24.17 | rabidweezle | never touch bash rc unless you are putting on the bottom line: fortune|cowsay -f tux |
| 06:24.56 | ngowial | thks. |
| 06:25.02 | \amethyst | ngowial: perhaps you have shopt -s histappend so rather than overwriting the history file when you exit the interactive shell, it's only appending |
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| 06:25.24 | rabidweezle | installs cowsay and fortune |
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| 06:26.26 | sway | i like debian because it runs on virtually anything. it lowers the barrier between income and access to vast amounts of information |
| 06:26.54 | sway | and it's a stable program, which is rare |
| 06:27.50 | sway | it makes sense. i could go on. |
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| 06:28.29 | Vasistha | i use debian because it's the easiest way i know to have a trouble-free minimal-maintenance system. |
| 06:28.59 | Vasistha | I dunno about trouble-free... but less trouble than any of the windows or mac computers I see friends struggling with |
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| 06:30.09 | sway | i'll use anything that boots and runs, but the benefits of debian are just overwhelming |
| 06:31.19 | blouf | hi |
| 06:31.29 | blouf | anyone know how to find the value of a fifo file please ? |
| 06:31.35 | sway | stability. documentation. stability. logical. stability. time-tested, mother approved. stability. did i mention stability? |
| 06:32.06 | davey__ | hehe like w$.. xD W$ publicity:"Run best on Intel Quad Core and 2Gb at least.. get it now!" hahaha |
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| 06:33.11 | blouf | hi |
| 06:33.13 | blouf | anyone know how to find the value of a fifo file please ? |
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| 06:33.50 | davey__ | 1 week later.. : Playing a game --> Crash --> reboot --> Crash -> Logon --> Crash --> Crash.. Format.. Again and again.. xD hahaha |
| 06:33.57 | blouf | wtf |
| 06:34.09 | blouf | davey stop drinking & help me |
| 06:34.46 | davey__ | xD sorry i just tlak about my great win exp xD |
| 06:34.54 | blouf | anyone know how to find the value of a fifo file please ? |
| 06:35.07 | Kamping_Kaiser | blouf: stop repeating yourself |
| 06:35.36 | blouf | Kamping_Kaiser: that's to be read, how could i guess if i am or not otherwise ? |
| 06:36.04 | sway | blouf: cat |
| 06:36.25 | blouf | nah |
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| 06:39.45 | davey__ | well.. good Zzzz to all ... tks guys |
| 06:39.47 | sway | blouf: chicken? |
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| 06:41.14 | blouf | if it's from kentucky why not |
| 06:41.32 | sway | how about canada? |
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| 06:42.19 | blouf | well any kfc, even in australia should be accepted |
| 06:42.26 | blouf | now, help or shush |
| 06:42.34 | sway | ok |
| 06:48.43 | Vasistha | blouf: we don't reward attitudes like that by helping. |
| 06:51.46 | adb | Vasistha, ? |
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| 06:53.27 | Vasistha | crap, what is the username and password for the printing system? maybe I should ask google. |
| 06:54.30 | Kamping_Kaiser | Vasistha: admin+root password iirc (at least, thats what it was on oldstable) |
| 06:54.59 | Vasistha | Kamping_Kaiser: still not taking :( |
| 06:55.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | Vasistha: :( |
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| 06:56.19 | Vasistha | Kamping_Kaiser: huh, looks like I need to use lppasswd |
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| 06:57.24 | Kamping_Kaiser | Vasistha: i don't remember dealign with that command before. |
| 06:57.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | guess its a new cups thing |
| 06:57.35 | Vasistha | Kamping_Kaiser: http://markmail.org/message/ovbs3thg2gsm4kfd#query:kde%20print%20password+page:1+mid:c67qxzgvtxbtz5zd+state:results |
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| 06:58.27 | Vasistha | it looks like I could set it to just use "basic" authentication which would then just use my regular username/password ... but then I would have to start my installation all over again :P |
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| 06:59.30 | Kamping_Kaiser | heh |
| 06:59.48 | Vasistha | crappity. |
| 06:59.50 | Manoj | I haven't been around here for a while -- how are reports about make-kpkg going? |
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| 07:00.30 | mo2000 | omg... stand up at 7:30 instead of 8:30 is absolutly useless |
| 07:00.37 | Kamping_Kaiser | I've not seen any today, don't know what its been like for the last week or two though |
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| 07:06.28 | Vasistha | woo! printy worky! |
| 07:06.37 | Kamping_Kaiser | \o/ |
| 07:07.51 | hark | Manoj: some issues with no initrd being created |
| 07:09.46 | Manoj | hark: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/10/msg01265.html |
| 07:10.03 | Manoj | hark: It is a bit long to feed to dpkg raw, I think |
| 07:11.32 | Manoj | Hmm. Been a while since I have fed an answer to the bot |
| 07:12.48 | sepult | the vga statement in grub for the xen kernel does not take |
| 07:12.48 | sepult | effect, do i have to put it on the xenhopt line or what ? |
| 07:13.49 | sepult | what hypervisor options are there ? |
| 07:14.06 | sepult | are they very different from the options for the kernel ? |
| 07:14.50 | Vasistha | Manoj: how funny, I just happened across your "why debian" talk and noticed you in the channel. Nice work |
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| 07:16.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | hm, Germany must be waking up. lots of .de's arriving |
| 07:16.09 | mo2000 | sepult: in which line you put this vga ? in the kernel line? |
| 07:16.25 | Manoj | Vasistha: Thanks. I guess I do need to update that document a bit, though |
| 07:16.39 | sepult | mo2000: xenkopt or xen-kopt line |
| 07:17.18 | mo2000 | Kamping_Kaiser: may this iss for this summer / winter time change... i am also one hour to early |
| 07:17.20 | sepult | mo2000: yes on the kernel line and even updated grub, to |
| 07:17.20 | sepult | recongnize the new settings |
| 07:17.29 | Vasistha | Manoj: well that will take a long time, but you could very easily put something like "I wrote this in 2005 (or whatever) and haven't updated it lately, so keep in mind some info may be outdated" |
| 07:17.42 | Vasistha | but of course updating it would be *nice* |
| 07:17.43 | Kamping_Kaiser | mo2000: aah right.:) |
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| 07:18.21 | mo2000 | sepult: that is only right place if you use update-grub.... if you want give xen a parameter it must be on the kernel= line manually or by update-grub |
| 07:19.02 | sepult | mo2000: however the resolution is not 1280x1024, seems something |
| 07:19.02 | sepult | like 640x480 or at most 800x600 but not more |
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| 07:19.11 | sepult | mo2000: everyhing is so big.... |
| 07:19.48 | sepult | mo2000: it's my dom0 |
| 07:20.14 | mo2000 | sepult: but is the vga a xen or a linux parameter? if linux then the parameter must bee in the next line after kernel= |
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| 07:20.45 | hark | Manoj: yeah that's a good explanation. also i think in the bts you've mentioned this also. |
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| 07:21.05 | mo2000 | sepult: did u use xen on a desktop? |
| 07:21.17 | hark | !kp-mantra |
| 07:21.17 | dpkg | rumour has it, kp mantra is make-kpkg clean ; export VER=$(date +'%Y%m%d') NAMEEXT="-$(hostname)-$(dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH)"; make-kpkg --revision=$VER --append-to-version=$NAMEEXT --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image . Add --initrd before kernel_image if you need an initrd. |
| 07:21.38 | sepult | waaaaah, i managed to get a domU huhuhuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 07:21.44 | hark | this is what people generally are referred here ^ |
| 07:21.53 | mo2000 | seput: Desktop or not? |
| 07:21.58 | mo2000 | :D |
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| 07:26.03 | Vasistha | Manoj: I am looking at your qa page. Are these here packages that you maintain as a developer, or packages you do QA on routinely? |
| 07:26.32 | Manoj | qa pages reflect packages one maintains, either by oneself, or as a team member |
| 07:26.55 | Manoj | the * after a package name indicate team maintained packages |
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| 07:28.19 | Vasistha | ah, okay. I was wondering if there was a way for a non-developer to keep a list of packages to be responsible for in terms of qa. Of course this is very theoretical seeing as I use only a handful of non-stable packages.. |
| 07:28.42 | Kamping_Kaiser | join the maintainance teams |
| 07:29.32 | Vasistha | wanna give me a link? :) |
| 07:29.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | um. no, frankly, since I have to fire up a web browser :p (stand by) |
| 07:29.53 | Vasistha | I wonder if dpkg knows something |
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| 07:30.13 | Kamping_Kaiser | Vasistha: http://wiki.debian.org/Teams |
| 07:31.16 | Vasistha | thanks! I am wondering if it is unwise for me to consider making a commitment at 12:30 am. I need to go to church early tomorrow morning... |
| 07:31.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | hehe |
| 07:31.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | Vasistha: you can't do worse then me, I joined a team and bascially became inactive the same week >.> |
| 07:32.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | decides next week is the week to change that |
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| 07:33.09 | Vasistha | nothing is calling to me right now. well, that is not entirely true-- my bed is definitely calling me. |
| 07:33.37 | Kamping_Kaiser | Vasistha: give in to the urges |
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| 07:34.18 | Vasistha | heh, thanks. okay. I can read this stuff later. I even got the printer working! I'm not going to get any more coding done tonight, that's for damn sure. If I code, it would be lousy and I'd have to redo it anyway. so g'nite all! |
| 07:35.18 | Kamping_Kaiser | 'later mate, catch you next week |
| 07:35.26 | pav5088 | If I want to change my IP address from DHCP to static without rebooting what do I need to do other than 1) configure a static IP in /etc/network/interfaces and 2) ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 ? This process works but eventually I get another DHCP assigned address. I also tried /etc/init.d/networking restart but that didn't seem to help. |
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| 07:36.08 | pav5088 | If I reboot this stops the dhcp behaviour, but I don't want to have to reboot. |
| 07:36.21 | Kamping_Kaiser | pav5088: perhaps kill dhcp-client (it should have got the hint already, but sometimes it doesn't) |
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| 07:36.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | dgeary2: hey mate |
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| 07:46.54 | gigo | What is the total number of supported packages in Debian? |
| 07:47.46 | joeytwiddle | my apt-cache search . | wc -l shows 32158 |
| 07:47.54 | Kamping_Kaiser | about 12,000 source packages iirc |
| 07:48.05 | joeytwiddle | that's not including unstable |
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| 07:48.13 | Kamping_Kaiser | the bot has some factoid on that, but i forget what it is |
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| 08:03.45 | jmd | Why is the shared-mime-info package so terribly out of date for i386 ? |
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| 08:06.57 | paipimenta | slightly ot, but I'm making a Google Spreadsheets form to enter data, and I jump from page 1 to page 2 or 3 depending on income or expense item, but I want to submit after page 2, not continue to page 3.... anyone familiar? |
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| 08:07.26 | farri | I need help for running a deamon in a chroot environment, I am using debian 4 and have created a chroot environment for debian 5 using dbootstrap |
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| 08:08.21 | farri | I need the daemon use libraries from the chroot debian 5 environment but access to files in the debian 4 system |
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| 08:10.09 | n00babe | hey can I install Debian Lenny i386 on an amd64 machine ? |
| 08:10.39 | paipimenta | n00babe: are you abe, or babe? |
| 08:10.52 | n00babe | paipimenta: im abe |
| 08:11.00 | n00babe | paipimenta: so tell me???? |
| 08:11.04 | paipimenta | my guess would be, definitely not |
| 08:11.13 | n00babe | damn |
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| 08:11.22 | paipimenta | need to burn another, now? |
| 08:11.29 | n00babe | paipimenta: yeah |
| 08:11.38 | n00babe | paipimenta: need to download another actually |
| 08:12.00 | n00babe | paipimenta: but wtf, the maemo sdk hasn't been made much compatible with amd64 |
| 08:12.04 | paipimenta | yeah, and if my adding qemu is any indicator, lenny servers are far from impressively fast |
| 08:12.40 | n00babe | why can't I install Debian Lenny 1386 on an amd64 machine, just like I do it for Ubuntu etc? |
| 08:12.47 | hark | n00babe: you can |
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| 08:13.07 | n00babe | hark: hmm we can!? |
| 08:13.12 | mjt | either 32 or 64bit works on amd64 |
| 08:13.19 | n00babe | mjt: awesome |
| 08:13.21 | n00babe | thx |
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| 08:14.00 | n00babe | i've got a 256kbps connection, so its a matter of great patience even to do a netinst |
| 08:14.07 | mjt | i have both actually, and many others do too. That is, some apps are 32 and some 64bits, running in parallel. |
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| 08:15.01 | n00babe | mjt: hey so you mean we can get 32bit apps working on 64bit install and vice-versa ? |
| 08:15.07 | mjt | sure |
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| 08:15.33 | mjt | with one obvious requiriment: in both cases the kernel should be 64bit |
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| 08:16.15 | meder | is there a web browser i can use for a non-gui debian server? |
| 08:16.18 | IchigoMorino | I have a question. I have a wireless card with a Ralink chipset and I install the ralink-firmware package but when I run "iwlist ra0 scan" it returns no results. When I check dmesg I see this error a bunch: "Bulk out MLME Failed, Status=-2!" |
| 08:16.26 | IchigoMorino | Any way I can fix this? |
| 08:16.36 | mjt | meder: links? |
| 08:16.44 | meder | that's the name? |
| 08:16.45 | meder | heh |
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| 08:17.34 | mjt | meder: or lynx |
| 08:17.39 | meder | Oh. "elinks" |
| 08:17.46 | meder | ty |
| 08:18.09 | mjt | IchigoMorino: try google for that error. |
| 08:19.00 | IchigoMorino | mjt: I did, only two results and both unhelpful. |
| 08:19.25 | meder | shit. |
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| 08:19.40 | meder | this site doesnt degrade gracefully |
| 08:19.58 | meder | looks like it relies on some js or something.. does elinks have extra plugins for more featured support? |
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| 08:23.22 | IchigoMorino | mjt: It seems like it works fine with the 2.6.29 kernel, but I use Squeeze so I have 2.6.30, is it possible to install an older kernel from the repositories and use it? |
| 08:23.37 | mjt | try it |
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| 08:24.14 | IchigoMorino | mjt: How would I got about installing an older kernel though? Should I just download a deb package? Will it be compatible with the rest of the system? |
| 08:24.26 | farri | I need help for running a deamon in a chroot environment, I am using debian 4 and have created a chroot environment for debian 5 using dbootstrap. I need the daemon use libraries from the chroot debian 5 environment but access to files in the debian 4 system |
| 08:24.35 | mjt | IchigoMorino: download will work |
| 08:24.53 | mjt | IchigoMorino: but i'd rather find why it's failing and fix that instead |
| 08:25.03 | cahoot | doesn't aptitude search linux-image offer choice? |
| 08:25.10 | IchigoMorino | mjt: I couldn't find a possible fix. |
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| 08:27.00 | justin | farri: bind mounts |
| 08:27.43 | farri | justin: in fact I only need to be capable of using glibc2.4 so I can access inotify functions not present in 2.3.6 |
| 08:27.47 | nsadmin_ | IchigoMorino: mjt has a good idea... find the problem then find a fix for that problem |
| 08:28.15 | IchigoMorino | nsadmin_: There is almost no info on this bug. |
| 08:28.27 | justin | farri: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/your/chroot/lib ? |
| 08:28.33 | IchigoMorino | It is probably new, only with this chipset and this kernel. |
| 08:28.56 | nsadmin_ | well maybe then it disappears under next kernel |
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| 08:29.37 | farri | justin: aha, will check, but this LD_LIBRARY_PATH can be called just for a command? |
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| 08:30.58 | nsadmin_ | but original comment still stands... find problem then find fix. if reversed or if you skip finding problem, it's the same as "how many monkeys typing all the time for how much time will rewrite the linux kernel" |
| 08:31.36 | farri | justin: I mean, it's an environment varible, but I only want the daemon to be using this library, not my whole system |
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| 08:33.03 | christiann | how i can install lite kde |
| 08:33.58 | farri | I need to execute "python daemon.py" but the deamon needs to use libc-2.7.so not the rest of my system |
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| 08:36.45 | g00se | My ssh socks tunnel has suddenly stopped working for some reason. I'm now getting 'bind: Cannot assign requested address' Any ideas? |
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| 08:44.49 | docmax | hello, i have no sound on my server... driver is loded... what can i do? |
| 08:46.39 | cahoot | run speaker-test |
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| 08:48.32 | docmax | cahoot, still no sound =( |
| 08:48.48 | cahoot | and noerror? |
| 08:48.54 | cahoot | no error? |
| 08:49.03 | docmax | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:49.03 | docmax | Time per period = 2.986614 |
| 08:49.09 | docmax | all the way down |
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| 08:49.28 | cahoot | run /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0 |
| 08:50.05 | docmax | Resetting ALSA card 0...done. |
| 08:50.17 | docmax | YEAH!!! |
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| 08:50.47 | docmax | yeah thanks!!!!! |
| 08:50.57 | docmax | cahoot, great!! |
| 08:50.57 | cahoot | np |
| 08:51.10 | docmax | do i have to do this on every server reboot? |
| 08:51.17 | cahoot | no |
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| 08:51.26 | cahoot | but otoh why reboot? |
| 08:51.46 | docmax | on server failure.... |
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| 08:52.44 | sway | what's a server failure? |
| 08:52.47 | cahoot | docmax: /etc/init.d/alsa-utils would be run automagically |
| 08:53.15 | cahoot | as part of the bootup |
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| 08:53.24 | docmax | sawy when server needs reboot for particually reasons |
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| 09:06.34 | docmax | does anyone know where partimaged is? is it included with partimage? cant find it... |
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| 09:07.04 | nsadmin_ | the whole idea behind stability is to have the server stay up for years at a time |
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| 09:09.07 | cahoot | really? |
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| 09:11.10 | gartral | hi all, im trying to install debian onto an old TP600e... can't get a netinst disk to connect to my wifi router, but it looks like it recognises and uses thee card |
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| 09:11.50 | cahoot | missing firmware? |
| 09:12.57 | gartral | cahoot: nope, it's a rather standard driver, and it isn't connecting to my dhcp router >.> |
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| 09:13.16 | cahoot | gartral: firmware might still be needed |
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| 09:13.31 | cahoot | gartral: depends on the device |
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| 09:14.37 | gartral | it's an MSI CB54G2 |
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| 09:14.54 | dllhell | I'm new to debian. what's a better way to install a newer kernel: backports or kernel.org ? |
| 09:15.20 | cahoot | gartral: the pciid would be a good start for googling/troubleshooting |
| 09:15.26 | pistache | i always use kerne.org dllhell |
| 09:15.33 | pistache | kernel.org* |
| 09:15.52 | gartral | cahoot: how do i get that if i cant boot? |
| 09:16.14 | cahoot | that wasn't clear (to me) |
| 09:16.17 | Kamping_Kaiser | dllhell: backports is probably better unless you need a kernel thats not available there |
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| 09:17.29 | cahoot | gartral: how can you even get to router problems if the system doesn't even boot? |
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| 09:18.22 | adamyarter | hey everyone. I've been trying to resolve PCI bus problems in debian for awhile. Does anyone have any experience with this? |
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| 09:18.40 | gartral | cause it just stops in the installer after it can't get in contact with the router, the disk (HDD) has no os yes |
| 09:18.49 | uwjesd_ | I was trying out some new x keybinding and ever since my backspace key would not work |
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| 09:22.30 | cahoot | gartral: my interpretation of that is the system boots |
| 09:23.01 | cahoot | (from the netinstall disk) |
| 09:23.20 | cahoot | you should be able to get to a console |
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| 09:24.02 | gartral | alright, your right.. but still.. how do i get the card to work from within the installer? |
| 09:24.35 | christiann | how i can install lite kde |
| 09:24.40 | christiann | kde base or smething |
| 09:24.43 | christiann | its like lite |
| 09:24.48 | christiann | can someone hep me? |
| 09:24.55 | cahoot | gartral: my suggestion would be to use a wire connection (if possible) at install and fix the wifi later |
| 09:25.39 | Kamping_Kaiser | christiann: did you bother to do a search? "apt-cache search ^kde base" for example |
| 09:25.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | kdebase - base components from the official KDE release |
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| 09:25.57 | gartral | cahoot: theres the problem... can't use a wired conection |
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| 09:26.45 | cahoot | gartral: the alt-f2 or such to get to a console and see if lspci -nn lists your wifidevice and its pciid |
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| 09:27.57 | uwjesd_ | My backspace key wont work since I typed in setxkbmap de |
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| 09:28.58 | g00se__ | 'channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 1080' - why would that (suddenly) be the case? |
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| 09:30.18 | christiann | the kde iam searching its like 20 mb and the big one its from400 : |
| 09:30.20 | christiann | can helpme? |
| 09:30.26 | alexandroos | hello guys, I'm on debian testing, i installed kde through the metapackage kdebase. Now i wanna uninstall it. if I remove kdebase only the metapackage is removed. How do i get rid of the entire kdebase packages installed |
| 09:30.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | christiann: there is no 20mb kde |
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| 09:31.19 | christiann | mm but 40 80 mb xD |
| 09:31.29 | gigo | what is the channel for echo command? |
| 09:31.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | gigo: pardon? |
| 09:31.52 | Kamping_Kaiser | christiann: You need to be a bit more verbose then that |
| 09:32.20 | gigo | like there is a channel for gcc command. none for echo command? I am the only one in #echo. |
| 09:32.44 | Kamping_Kaiser | gigo: the man page has 3 options, its not that hard |
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| 09:32.50 | g00se__ | !tell alexandroos why aptitude |
| 09:32.53 | gigo | ok |
| 09:32.59 | Kamping_Kaiser | gigo: whats wrong? |
| 09:33.06 | debianbased | can anyone recommend me a stable (NOT beta), currently developed debian based LIVE distribution which offers the same functionality as Incognito Linux? Yes, it must include tor! |
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| 09:33.23 | christiann | mm |
| 09:33.23 | christiann | bye |
| 09:33.25 | gigo | nothing is wrong. i am trying to understand why some commands have channels and others don't |
| 09:33.32 | g00se__ | debianbased: live_helper |
| 09:33.45 | Kamping_Kaiser | gigo: some apps are complex enough to require help :) |
| 09:33.49 | g00se__ | (You can put it whatever you want) |
| 09:33.53 | gigo | ok |
| 09:34.22 | gartral | cahoot: yes, it's there |
| 09:35.10 | eXeC001er | Hello! |
| 09:35.18 | alexandroos | g00se, no one told me anything |
| 09:35.22 | cahoot | seems to me it's a ralink device - I'm pretty certain you need firmware for that |
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| 09:35.36 | debianbased | g00se__ i do not want to create a live distro. i just want to use one which is already made |
| 09:35.36 | eXeC001er | How can i copy some pakcages from REPO_1 to REPO_2 ? |
| 09:35.40 | cahoot | (besides the kenrel module) |
| 09:35.53 | g00se | !why aptitude |
| 09:35.54 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often be able to come up with a solution where apt-get just gives up. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). It can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line or at the Y/n/q/? prompt using its interactive resolver, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
| 09:35.58 | Kamping_Kaiser | eXeC001er: more details needed |
| 09:36.13 | gartral | cahoot hoow do i obtain that and use it? |
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| 09:36.47 | cahoot | tricky |
| 09:36.54 | g00se | debianbased: Well what could be better than to have one with *exactly* what you need? ;-) |
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| 09:37.13 | cahoot | gartral: have to leave |
| 09:37.17 | eXeC001er | i need to add to my repo some packages from other repo. How? |
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| 09:37.25 | debianbased | g00se, very funny ... NOT! |
| 09:37.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | eXeC001er: .deb package repository? |
| 09:37.52 | Kamping_Kaiser | debianbased: its a fair cop. you need something specific, you make it |
| 09:37.54 | eXeC001er | Kamping_Kaiser: yeah |
| 09:38.31 | Kamping_Kaiser | eXeC001er: debmirror has an option which may work for you (if your using debmirror), else try vsag (its not a mirroring tool, but it can regenerate all the package lists after you import the new files) |
| 09:39.04 | eXeC001er | Kamping_Kaiser: thanks. |
| 09:39.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | eXeC001er: no worries. |
| 09:39.13 | Kamping_Kaiser | hth |
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| 09:40.37 | Kamping_Kaiser | gartral: so a quick recap - did you get an install cd booting? can you run 'lspci' or 'lsusb' from your booted cd image? |
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| 09:41.18 | gartral | Kamping_Kaiser: yes i can, i think imma d/l a full install disk and use that |
| 09:41.33 | debianbased | Kamping_Kaiser, g00se, i understand by your answers that what i want is not available and that this newbie should *create* his own Live distro? with that kind of advice no wonder why the vast majority of desktop users stick to windoze! |
| 09:42.00 | Kamping_Kaiser | debianbased: boo hoo you got an answer you didnt like, cry about windows |
| 09:42.06 | Kamping_Kaiser | where they offer custom versions for everyone |
| 09:42.18 | Kamping_Kaiser | debianbased: or, make a *custom debian cd*, not a *whole new distro* |
| 09:42.51 | g00se | debianbased: Yes, right. Much easier to reach for your Windows RAM disk with tor ready installed |
| 09:42.52 | Kamping_Kaiser | gartral: ok, good luck :) |
| 09:42.59 | debianbased | Kamping_Kaiser, make a custom debian cd is not a newbie friendly task |
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| 09:43.19 | debianbased | g00se, yes! |
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| 09:43.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | you've tried? |
| 09:43.35 | gartral | Kamping_Kaiser: hoely crap! 5 dvds?!? |
| 09:43.39 | g00se | debianbased: Let me know where to get one |
| 09:43.56 | Kamping_Kaiser | gartral: only need the first one (or the first cd for that matter) |
| 09:44.25 | gartral | which would be better? |
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| 09:44.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | assumes that the live-magic package in his package list is just an illusion to trick him |
| 09:44.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | gartral: if you have 5gb to spend on a dvd, get the dvd ;O |
| 09:44.54 | debianbased | g00se, here : http://www.microsoft.com/opensource/ |
| 09:45.04 | Selveste1 | Is there a file I can put all my default Grub settings, like grub password and XEN setting ? cause when I upgrade kernel menu.lst is getting cleaned |
| 09:45.05 | emdete | hi, any grub2 experts around? i had to copy a hd file-by-file to another hd so i had to re-install grub2 but now it complains about not finding a device, a long number... any ideas? |
| 09:45.14 | gartral | Kamping_Kaiser: does the dvd have xfce installer on it? |
| 09:45.24 | Kamping_Kaiser | gartral: dunno sorry |
| 09:45.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | emdete: its a UUID for the hard drive |
| 09:45.56 | dutchfish | emdete, UUID? |
| 09:46.18 | emdete | i assume so, yes. but why did it change? |
| 09:46.18 | Kamping_Kaiser | Selveste1: grub onfig should have sections your able to edit safely |
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| 09:46.28 | Kamping_Kaiser | Selveste1: i only have grub2 here, so i cant check for you though |
| 09:46.43 | emdete | or: how can i bring it to boot? i know the dev name |
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| 09:47.29 | dutchfish | emdete, you should still have the old legacy config file of grub? |
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| 09:48.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | emdete: you can edit grub boot lines when it loads on boot |
| 09:48.31 | emdete | dutchfish: no, its completly grub2, its not an grub-legacy to grub2 issue. i just had to copy the hd to another one. |
| 09:49.05 | dutchfish | emdete, and you used grub-update and it didnt automagically detect? |
| 09:49.22 | dutchfish | emdete, the grub-update from grub2 |
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| 09:49.46 | emdete | dutchfish: i did that on a different machine with root set, yes |
| 09:49.59 | emdete | i changed the device map also |
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| 09:50.55 | valdyn | emdete: "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" should do everything |
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| 09:51.11 | MasterOne | I want to use Debian Lenny. If I am in need of something, that's only in Squeeze (like Xfce 4.6.1), can I just pull it in with "aptitude -t testing install xfce4", or will this cause troubles later on? |
| 09:51.33 | valdyn | MasterOne: you cant |
| 09:51.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | it will probably cause trouble |
| 09:51.46 | emdete | valdyn: ? the system does not boot. i made the hd with another system. `dpkg-reconfigure` wouldnt work |
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| 09:52.05 | dutchfish | emdete, there is one option wich you could try GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true |
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| 09:52.16 | valdyn | MasterOne: use backports.org and if your package is not available there use the simple sid backport ( applies for squeeze like for sid ) |
| 09:52.25 | valdyn | !ssb |
| 09:52.25 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 09:52.29 | valdyn | MasterOne: ^^ |
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| 09:52.38 | dutchfish | emdete, if you have a valid config remove the # to enable |
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| 09:53.41 | dutchfish | emdete, i asume your drive is not encrypted |
| 09:53.43 | emdete | dutchfish: hm, does grub-install grab the config from the mounted dev if rootfs is set? i am always unsure how to grub a mounted non-rootfs... |
| 09:53.47 | emdete | dutchfish: no |
| 09:53.50 | flower | why does this not work? http://pastebin.com/m48f24105 |
| 09:53.53 | valdyn | emdete: boot a live cd, use chroot to enter your system |
| 09:54.09 | valdyn | emdete: after that you can use it like if it was booted the regular way |
| 09:54.12 | MasterOne | thought so, that's bad, because Xfce 4.6.1 in lenny-backports is broken for i386, and I was not really in the mood for more fiddling |
| 09:54.26 | dutchfish | valdyn, good point |
| 09:54.35 | Selveste1 | Kamping_Kaiser: thanks, I use grub 0.9.7 but I have a lot of PCIbackend stuff in my menu.lst and it gets clened everytime :S |
| 09:54.43 | emdete | valdyn: i tried already. it had a kernel that was too old (had /dev/hd...) so i burned a testing debian installer cd that does not boot at all :( |
| 09:54.54 | Kamping_Kaiser | Selveste1: :/ Fraid I can't help |
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| 09:55.30 | emdete | valdyn: do u have a url to an iso image containing a kernel that fits to current unstable? |
| 09:55.40 | valdyn | emdete: though squeeze is usuable, squeeze installers are often not. Bad idea to rely on it |
| 09:55.46 | valdyn | emdete: use some different live cd |
| 09:56.33 | emdete | valdyn: don't even know what squeeze is, i used a debian installer cd... |
| 09:56.42 | valdyn | emdete: sqeeze is testing at the moment |
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| 09:58.11 | valdyn | http://grml.org/changelogs/README-grml-2009.10/ |
| 09:58.14 | emdete | ah, okay. |
| 09:58.15 | dutchfish | emdete, what debian version are you using? |
| 09:58.19 | emdete | unstable |
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| 09:58.57 | valdyn | !grml |
| 09:58.57 | dpkg | grml is a bootable CD (Live CD) originally <based on> Knoppix, now Debian. It includes a collection of GNU/Linux software especially for users of text tools and system administrators. It can be used as a rescue system, for analyzing systems/networks or as a working environment. http://grml.org/ #grml on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 09:59.31 | emdete | valdyn: i know grml, that was my first try but mine was too old, had an 2.6.22 kernel or something... |
| 09:59.40 | emdete | valdyn: thnx, will try that new one there |
| 09:59.47 | valdyn | emdete: do you get the boot menu though? |
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| 10:01.03 | larcen_ | wenass |
| 10:01.08 | emdete | valdyn: yes, the grub-setup on the other notebook seemed to work, but if i replace the uuid with /dev/... the kernel panics |
| 10:01.18 | larcen_ | hi all |
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| 10:02.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | emdete: did you update the root= as well as ? |
| 10:02.21 | emdete | valdyn: i still don't know if that is related to wrong grub or a defect file |
| 10:02.27 | valdyn | emdete: if you get to the boot menu then this is bootable from the grub boot menu |
| 10:02.33 | emdete | Kamping_Kaiser: yes, i removed the search and replaced root=... |
| 10:02.37 | valdyn | emdete: because you can edit the entries from the menu at runtime |
| 10:02.48 | emdete | valdyn: as i said: i tried |
| 10:03.34 | dutchfish | emdete, did you try GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true ? |
| 10:03.35 | emdete | valdyn: the kernel starts, then prints out a stack trace |
| 10:03.53 | Kamping_Kaiser | starting to not sound like grubs fault |
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| 10:04.50 | dutchfish | Kamping_Kaiser, there are more poeple with simular problems, i am not one of them, but http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=42226 |
| 10:05.02 | emdete | Kamping_Kaiser: isnt it that common to make a hd bootable in another computer to mention that in a short howto? |
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| 10:05.35 | valdyn | --nofloppy will not get you a stack trace though |
| 10:05.36 | emdete | dutchfish: my problem is /not/ legace->2 related. |
| 10:05.39 | valdyn | it will just make grub2 fail |
| 10:05.43 | dutchfish | emdete, you could ask in #grub |
| 10:06.35 | emdete | dutchfish: the main question is: i have a hd as /dev/sdb with an debian rootfs mounted in /mnt. all needed packages, grub2, kernel and so on are installed. how can i make it bootable? |
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| 10:07.03 | emdete | dutchfish: i think this should be quite simple but i dont know if i did it right... |
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| 10:08.00 | Kamping_Kaiser | emdete: bind in /dev, grub-update, check config is correct, profit (is roughly what I did when Grub installed on the wrong device) |
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| 10:08.27 | Kamping_Kaiser | dutchfish: looks like /etc/grub.d has poluted itself, but I'm not a grub person, |
| 10:08.28 | valdyn | emdete: mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev \n chroot /mnt |
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| 10:08.30 | Kamping_Kaiser | s/,/. |
| 10:08.31 | [Elvis] | hej guys |
| 10:08.38 | [Elvis] | does lenny still use the bigmem kernels? |
| 10:08.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | yes. |
| 10:08.52 | [Elvis] | hmm k |
| 10:09.00 | Kamping_Kaiser | is running one ;O |
| 10:09.08 | [Elvis] | what's the big difference? |
| 10:09.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | for me? 4gb of ram instead of 3.3 |
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| 10:10.38 | g00se | 'channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 1080' - why would that (suddenly) be the case? |
| 10:10.45 | Selveste1 | [Elvis]: as I recall all x64 kernels have PAE enabled - I don't run x86 kernels, so don't know about them :P |
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| 10:10.53 | valdyn | g00se: because that port is already in use |
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| 10:11.13 | emdete | Kamping_Kaiser: valdyn: so no tampering with device mapping needed? how about /procs and /sys - dosnt grub look into that? |
| 10:11.15 | valdyn | Selveste1: x64 kernels do not support PAE |
| 10:11.42 | g00se | valdyn: Doesn't seem to be. Any idea which end(s) that would refer to? |
| 10:11.42 | valdyn | Selveste1: the hardware doesnt support pae either in 64-bit mode |
| 10:11.45 | Selveste1 | valdyn: My XEN x64 kernel have PAE, and i haven't builded my kernel, its stick |
| 10:11.50 | Selveste1 | *stock |
| 10:11.58 | valdyn | Selveste1: nonsense |
| 10:12.17 | Kamping_Kaiser | emdete: i might have mounted in proc (out of habit), don't know if grub needs it. i didn't mount in sys |
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| 10:12.54 | reklama | http://action.metaffiliation.com/suivi.php?mclic=S42665516A5D131 |
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| 10:13.12 | emdete | Kamping_Kaiser: okay. and the device mapping sdb -> (hd0,0)? |
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| 10:13.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | emdete: sda=hd0 |
| 10:13.54 | valdyn | emdete: depends |
| 10:13.59 | emdete | Kamping_Kaiser: exactly |
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| 10:14.28 | emdete | Kamping_Kaiser: but if i mount a second hd, its sdb. if i want to boot that in another computer its sda there |
| 10:14.34 | valdyn | emdete: ..depends on your bios settings |
| 10:14.48 | emdete | we talk about 2 computers here |
| 10:14.58 | Kamping_Kaiser | emdete: so you might have to :s/hd1/hd0 before rebooting |
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| 10:14.59 | emdete | i make bootable in one, boot in another. same hd |
| 10:15.20 | emdete | dev mapping is not read while booting... |
| 10:15.30 | valdyn | emdete: sda is the first disk on the first controller, your sata jacks have a numbering |
| 10:15.43 | valdyn | emdete: hd0 is the disk the bios boots from |
| 10:15.46 | emdete | valdyn: please read what i said... |
| 10:15.47 | [Elvis] | how can I remove a software raid device in the debian installer? |
| 10:15.50 | valdyn | emdete: this can match or not, thats a bios setting |
| 10:15.56 | [Elvis] | raid5 device #0 |
| 10:15.58 | g00se | valdyn: The next line in that error message is 'Could not request local forwarding.' |
| 10:16.02 | [Elvis] | I don't see any option to remove it |
| 10:16.15 | emdete | valdyn: i talk about one disk that is sdb if grub-setup runs and sda when booting |
| 10:16.55 | Selveste1 | is there still problems with grub2 and XEN kernels ? |
| 10:17.03 | emdete | valdyn: no magic, no raid, no crypt, no nothing. just a ata hd in a usb-adapter & notebook |
| 10:17.05 | [Elvis] | can anyone tell me how I can remove the sofrware raid5 device during debian install? |
| 10:17.47 | valdyn | emdete: sdb->hd0 then |
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| 10:19.12 | [Elvis] | no-one knows? |
| 10:19.14 | g00se | valdyn: My first thoughts were the same as yours. nc -l 1080 succeeds at both ends of the tunnel though |
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| 10:21.01 | valdyn | emdete: device.map maps current device names to your bios order |
| 10:21.49 | mercuree | switch back to mac and scroll down then go back into debian.. |
| 10:22.04 | mercuree | ignore that :) |
| 10:22.50 | kolby | how feasible would it be to make a cross-platform software package builder |
| 10:23.12 | emdete | valdyn: i know, that was the cause for my question |
| 10:23.21 | Kamping_Kaiser | kolby: relevance? |
| 10:23.37 | emdete | valdyn: i now use grml & chroot... |
| 10:23.44 | valdyn | emdete: ok |
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| 10:24.11 | [Elvis] | guys, If I want to setup raid5 with a seperate /home dir |
| 10:24.20 | kolby | I came to this channel to ask that question. |
| 10:24.23 | valdyn | kolby: in its vagueness and generality this is a pointless question |
| 10:24.28 | [Elvis] | I have to setup 2 raid5 devices? |
| 10:24.29 | [Elvis] | right? |
| 10:24.37 | [Elvis] | one for /root and one for /home ? |
| 10:25.08 | mercuree | I am running debian lenny in VBox on my mac. I have one issue, the resolution is too large, so in fullscreen mode I have to uncapture debian scroll down and go back in the whole time. I have tried using resolution preferences and get no res modes to choose from. have also tries reconfiguring xserver using dpkg (only got a bunch of questions about keyboard??) and xrandr -- size 1280x800 to which I get the response 'not found in available modes' can anyone |
| 10:25.10 | mercuree | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:25.20 | valdyn | [Elvis]: /root is harldy ever used, why the hell would it be on an extra raid? |
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| 10:26.06 | [Elvis] | hmm |
| 10:26.17 | [Elvis] | why not? |
| 10:26.19 | [Elvis] | speed? |
| 10:26.28 | Kamping_Kaiser | harldy ever used |
| 10:26.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | is why not |
| 10:26.46 | [Elvis] | hmm |
| 10:26.51 | [Elvis] | all the data goes on / |
| 10:26.59 | [Elvis] | and the seperate /home is just for user files |
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| 10:27.03 | nkuttler | mercuree: xrandr |
| 10:27.03 | dutchfish | mercuree, i dont use that one myself but that ar emore video card emulations maybe one does wide screen, boggs dont if i am right |
| 10:27.05 | [Elvis] | how is it hardly used then? |
| 10:27.05 | valdyn | [Elvis]: / looks like its not /root |
| 10:27.12 | mercuree | i am about to read through xorg.conf and see if I can manually change it there. is this advisable? |
| 10:27.17 | nkuttler | err |
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| 10:27.53 | valdyn | mercuree: no, not like that |
| 10:28.01 | mercuree | nkuttler xrandr says that mode is not available. do you know of a way i can list available modes and choose a better fit? |
| 10:28.20 | valdyn | mercuree: use xrandr, if that doesnt do what you want, read /var/log/Xorg.0.log for the reason why that mode is not available |
| 10:28.24 | dutchfish | mercuree, xrander -q |
| 10:28.57 | dutchfish | xrandr* |
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| 10:30.08 | mercuree | there are no options i can find in vbox for display resoluiton so I guess that is not the problem |
| 10:30.10 | dutchfish | mercuree, maybe there are other available video emulations i believe vbox has 3 dif |
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| 10:30.55 | dutchfish | mercuree, not all support the same options |
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| 10:31.22 | kolby | there should be a simpler means of building software packages across major OS's. |
| 10:31.39 | valdyn | kolby: simpler than what? |
| 10:31.50 | dutchfish | mercuree, http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/524 |
| 10:31.54 | valdyn | kolby: whats wrong with whatever you are thinking of? |
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| 10:32.33 | kolby | simpler than manually creating one for each platform. |
| 10:33.06 | LobbyZ | Right, what do you do if you 'accidently' delete lib, bin and share from doing deluser -delete-all-files user? |
| 10:33.18 | valdyn | kolby: might be the reason why about all free software uses a cross platform build system |
| 10:33.39 | mercuree | thanks guys |
| 10:33.54 | mercuree | i will read try all the options you suggested and report back :P |
| 10:34.10 | g00se | valdyn: Fixed it. The ip address i specified for the proxy was wrong. Funny thing is that it was wrong yesterday too - but it worked ;-) |
| 10:34.20 | valdyn | weird |
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| 10:35.29 | mercuree | ok on xrandr -q my highest possible resolution is 1280x1024 which I am currently on |
| 10:35.35 | comps | hi, I'm trying to remove config files of already uninstalled packages, dpkg here says "To purge all "removed" packages: aptitude purge '~c'." on it, but this command doesn't seem to work and the manual way with dpkg -P would be realy a big workaround |
| 10:35.52 | g00se | thinks that possibly the router allocated a new address somehow. There would have had to be a socket somewhere |
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| 10:36.18 | valdyn | comps: why do you think it doesnt work? |
| 10:36.22 | LobbyZ | Is there an alternative to ls? |
| 10:36.23 | dutchfish | mercuree, yes, i gues your curent emulator is limited to that, i just found out that vbox has only one video emulation btw, but devs are working on more |
| 10:36.31 | comps | valdyn: well, it prints help output and does nothing else |
| 10:36.32 | valdyn | LobbyZ: whats wrong with ls ? |
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| 10:36.45 | LobbyZ | Well as i said before, i deleted lib, bin and share |
| 10:36.46 | valdyn | comps: on which debian release? |
| 10:36.47 | LobbyZ | and ls won't work |
| 10:36.51 | kolby | valdyn: there could still be improvement. Imagine a server people could send their packages to where it would build it for many linux distros, osx, and winblows. |
| 10:36.53 | comps | aptitude 0.4.11.11 |
| 10:36.56 | comps | squeeze |
| 10:37.05 | dutchfish | mercuree, i myself dont use vbox anymore, and switched to kvm |
| 10:37.13 | valdyn | LobbyZ: theres no alternative to anything if you deleted /lib and /bin |
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| 10:37.15 | mercuree | dutchfish I have as yet not found any video options other than amount of ram to allocate to video and enabling 3d acelleration |
| 10:37.15 | mercuree | in vbox that is |
| 10:37.15 | mercuree | checking that ticket now |
| 10:37.26 | comps | valdyn: aptitude has -c no more |
| 10:37.30 | dutchfish | mercuree, ok |
| 10:37.37 | valdyn | comps: -c is not ~c |
| 10:37.46 | LobbyZ | valdyn, but echo * seemed to work |
| 10:37.48 | comps | oh right |
| 10:38.03 | valdyn | LobbyZ: bash builtins will work |
| 10:38.06 | emdete | valdyn, Kamping_Kaiser & everyone that helped: thnx, it boots! :D |
| 10:38.09 | comps | yep, works, thanks |
| 10:38.36 | dutchfish | mercuree, http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=59 |
| 10:38.49 | valdyn | kolby: how would that be special? |
| 10:39.12 | valdyn | kolby: debian has been doing this for ages ( just not for windows, but thats not because that cant be done ) |
| 10:39.28 | kolby | if the software was based on python, it would be simple to port, but mundane to maintain all the packages for each Is. |
| 10:39.55 | valdyn | kolby: are you trying to reinvent the wheel? Cross platform build systems are the norm, not the exception |
| 10:40.15 | kolby | OS* |
| 10:41.58 | kolby | what build system does this? |
| 10:42.32 | kolby | make? |
| 10:42.57 | dutchfish | !tell kolby about ask |
| 10:43.15 | valdyn | kolby: python is not cross platform per se |
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| 10:44.28 | luislobo | hi all |
| 10:44.31 | luislobo | when you get a postinst error with dpkg, where can I read the output of the postinst script or the error log ? |
| 10:44.55 | mercuree | thanks dutchfish for the last link. I am trying it now |
| 10:45.04 | dutchfish | mercuree, gl |
| 10:45.39 | kolby | true... but for interpreted languages like this, having a system like that would be great |
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| 10:46.33 | dutchfish | kolby, the problem is not the language itself, but the machines API/ABI etc |
| 10:46.56 | dutchfish | kolby, so x-platform is a dream that only partly can be done |
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| 10:47.40 | docmax | i have a problem |
| 10:47.56 | docmax | i have a server with pulseaudio |
| 10:48.17 | mercuree | hmm Xor.conf is located in /etc/X11 right? |
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| 10:48.34 | mercuree | coz if I open it in nano, it is empty |
| 10:48.36 | docmax | and the volume is very low, allthough i set it in alsamixer to max.. any ideas? |
| 10:48.44 | mercuree | Xorg.conf i meant |
| 10:49.07 | log69 | mercuree: yes |
| 10:49.10 | kolby | dutchfish: ill have to think of a way to specify source per platform |
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| 10:49.37 | mercuree | so if I wanted to add new data there I could just add each expression on a new line? |
| 10:49.43 | dutchfish | kolby, there are ways, but that goes more to virtualized solutions |
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| 10:50.22 | dutchfish | kolby, but it depends on what you exactly want to do |
| 10:50.26 | log69 | mercuree: man xorg.conf |
| 10:51.01 | dutchfish | kolby, normally in languages like C this is done with macros |
| 10:51.13 | dutchfish | kolby, nothing mystic about it |
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| 10:51.29 | dutchfish | kolby, i gues that goes for python the same |
| 10:52.30 | kolby | right. its already possible. |
| 10:52.30 | dutchfish | mercuree, yes |
| 10:52.56 | kolby | it should be easier and faster though. |
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| 10:53.44 | matt7676 | I have a small LAN with 25 computers. One(or few) of them are sending out spam. I have a Linux gateway/router. How can I detect which computer is sending out spam using using this gateway/router? |
| 10:53.47 | kolby | like what launchpad does to build for different processors |
| 10:54.29 | kolby | users sends package and server cross compiles. |
| 10:54.49 | emdete | matt7676: tcpdump? |
| 10:55.09 | thrashold | matt7676: Log or use tcpdump on tcp port 25 |
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| 10:57.36 | mac_ | hola |
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| 11:02.40 | comps | is there any way to "clone" a debian instalation? There are ways to install packages from a list, either using aptitude or dpkg with selections, but no such way actually removes packages that aren't in the list, but are installed on the second machine (ie. grub). |
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| 11:04.06 | somiaj | comps: you can just copy the files over via cp -a. [just have to be selective about which directories in / you copy over, such as don't copy over proc, sys, dev [since those are populated on boot] |
| 11:04.29 | mac_ | holaaaaaaa |
| 11:04.53 | azeem | !es |
| 11:04.53 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 11:05.23 | comps | somiaj: yeah, I know, but this testing machine is pretty historical with possible bad sectors on those ancient ATA hdds and I need to "clone" it on package-level to a new 64bit machine |
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| 11:05.43 | somiaj | comps: can't help ya with that then |
| 11:05.49 | log69 | comps: or save the package names with "dpkg -l > pkg1", then on the other computer "dpkg -l > pkg2", then "diff pkg*" will tell you the difference |
| 11:06.12 | comps | well, I guess I'll do the base install and then use diffutils on both package lists |
| 11:06.21 | comps | log69: excatly .. |
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| 11:07.31 | comps | anyway, thanks for your time |
| 11:09.28 | log69 | comps: colordiff can be usefull too :) |
| 11:10.01 | kantor | hi, I'm working as a driver developer for embedded systems, and I would like to develop an embedded system simulator that could run on usual PC's (in your linux OS) and simulates a micro-controller, operating system . . . My question is: is such thing already available or not ? |
| 11:11.28 | comps | log69: I could even automate it a bit, but still, things like debconf-i18n vs. debconf-english might be difficult to handle automatically |
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| 11:13.16 | log69 | comps: you could check maybe with "apt-cache show" if a package name belongs to coreutils (or whatever you don't want to process), and if not, then you install it, if it belongs to the unneeded groups, then not |
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| 11:14.06 | comps | interesting idea |
| 11:14.25 | log69 | as i see, it could be the Section tag maybe |
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| 11:15.54 | nkuttler | kantor: do you have a debian box? |
| 11:16.04 | AcTiVaTe | kantor: http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/Linux-For-Devices-Articles/Getting-started-with-an-embedded-Linux-system-emulator/ |
| 11:16.14 | comps | log69: I guess the diff + grep manual way would be still enough :) |
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| 11:16.33 | log69 | comps:ok |
| 11:16.46 | comps | I was just curious if there's an auto-dep-resolving way |
| 11:17.13 | kantor | actually for the beginning I would like to simulate only the software part. For instance in embedded systems there are tasks, basic functions that are recurring in every 10, 100 ms, 1s . . . And every such task reads some inputs or sets some output pins . . . from time, to time triggers the watchdog . . . So for the beginning I want to simulate only the software part. The basic work flow of an embedded system |
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| 11:18.53 | log69 | whois kantor |
| 11:19.05 | log69 | srry |
| 11:20.16 | log69 | kantor: softgun pakcage maybe? i'm not familiar with it though |
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| 11:24.35 | rajeshsr | hi |
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| 11:26.36 | rajeshsr | i have a broadband modem and a data card. I want to set my network to have the connection simultaneously, so tat my broadband will connect me to my LAN while data card will take me to net.. |
| 11:26.43 | rajeshsr | can anyone help me do this? |
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| 11:27.03 | rajeshsr | my provider seems to have some problem and i can not connect to net with tat! |
| 11:27.13 | rajeshsr | tats the reason am asking for it.. |
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| 11:28.15 | [Elvis] | hej guys,the standard debian install. is that with thebigmem kernel? |
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| 11:28.42 | valdyn | [Elvis]: no |
| 11:29.10 | [Elvis] | hmm k |
| 11:29.20 | [Elvis] | is there a minimum requirement for the amount of ram? |
| 11:29.27 | valdyn | [Elvis]: yes |
| 11:29.31 | [Elvis] | to intsall the bigmem kernel...I mean...it will not install without a certain amount of ram? |
| 11:30.21 | flower | does apt-get dist-upgrade overwrites or respects /etc/apt/preferences? |
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| 11:30.21 | valdyn | flower: debian does not ship any /etc/apt/preferences |
| 11:30.42 | AcTiVaTe | kantor: EMSIM might be what you are looking for perhaps |
| 11:30.49 | flower | valdyn: what do you mean? |
| 11:30.56 | valdyn | flower: just what i said |
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| 11:31.06 | kantor | ok thanks |
| 11:31.08 | flower | valdyn: can't use it on debian? |
| 11:31.36 | valdyn | flower: /etc/apt/preferences is not installed by debian |
| 11:31.46 | valdyn | flower: that has nothing to do with using it |
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| 11:32.11 | flower | valdyn: then your answer doesn't answer my first question |
| 11:32.34 | valdyn | flower: does debian overwrite /etc/apt/preferences? No it does not even ship that file |
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| 11:33.02 | flower | valdyn: no: does apt-get overwrite...... not debian |
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| 11:33.28 | valdyn | flower: apt-get only reads that file |
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| 11:40.17 | waka | I have recently just edited the session startup on gnome and now even after removing the xterm i wanted started at startup |
| 11:40.57 | waka | the start up process is now very slow for me |
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| 11:42.12 | [Elvis] | is security.debian.org down? |
| 11:43.07 | Kvant | not for me |
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| 11:43.17 | DeSian | any way to fix this error, i try with apt-file also this package is not available under debian http://paste.debian.net/49879/plain/49879 |
| 11:43.21 | waka | hangs too long on background image any pointers? |
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| 11:45.10 | themill | DeSian: where's this bluefish-unstable-plugins package from? |
| 11:45.30 | _tux | hi people i have a debian system where i only can work with the console |
| 11:45.40 | DeSian | themill, from bluefish server |
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| 11:46.43 | _tux | and i need to configure a wlan in it. where do i need to configure the wlan? in /etc/network/interfaces.conf? |
| 11:46.55 | themill | DeSian: ask them, then. The libgucharmap6 package exists for lenny but not for later releases. |
| 11:47.25 | DeSian | themill, yes you are right |
| 11:47.46 | rajeshsr | hi, does anyone get this? |
| 11:48.05 | [Elvis] | hmm |
| 11:48.06 | flower | is this line right: APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated 1 ; or should it be APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated "1" ; |
| 11:48.12 | [Elvis] | my debian can't connect to security.debian.org |
| 11:48.18 | [Elvis] | while I CAN ping to it |
| 11:48.24 | rajeshsr | uh! this networking seems so confusing! |
| 11:48.24 | wintix | _tux: you normally do it with wpasupplicant and call that from etc/network/interfaces - that is, if you have a wpa encrypted wavelan. if it is only wep or no encryption at all you don't need wpasupplicant. |
| 11:48.29 | log69 | _tux: use the wpasupplicant package |
| 11:48.42 | rajeshsr | can anyone tell me how to enable 2 interfaces eth0 and ppp0? |
| 11:48.46 | streuner_ | [Elvis]: security is a round-robin |
| 11:48.49 | rajeshsr | and use one for net? |
| 11:48.58 | _tux | ah ok understood thanks |
| 11:49.14 | [Elvis] | streuner_ apparantly that aint workijng ? :p |
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| 11:50.28 | streuner_ | [Elvis]: just try the working server (ping) and set it into /etc/hosts |
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| 11:51.48 | DeSian | themill, fixed it was wrong package, installed the version from another website for sid and fixed |
| 11:52.01 | DeSian | http://debian.wgdd.de/debian/ |
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| 12:00.09 | CharminTheMoose | Hey all, I'm running debian testing and I did a dist-upgrade about 2 weeks ago, now when I run jackd, I get a whole bunch of xruns, where normally I'd only get 1 or 2. What settings can I change to fix this? |
| 12:01.29 | rajeshsr | after upgrading to lenny, my num pad seems not working, any idea? |
| 12:04.00 | Kamping_Kaiser | is it possible to use @reboot in /etc/cron.d/ files? |
| 12:06.19 | streuner_ | my /etc/cron.d/ is pretty empty, but why should that be somebody want at all? :-) |
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| 12:08.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | mines pretty empty too, but I'm thinking of filling it up a bit ;) |
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| 12:12.14 | DeSian | time local and UTC are wrong http://paste.debian.net/49881/ |
| 12:12.31 | DeSian | currect is 13:X:X |
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| 12:14.48 | Kvant | do you dual boot with windows? |
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| 12:15.29 | DeSian | Kvant, never |
| 12:15.44 | Kvant | set it right then? |
| 12:15.52 | Kvant | with date |
| 12:16.18 | DeSian | Kvant, and you use google before write answer |
| 12:17.23 | g00se | ntpdate |
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| 12:18.45 | Kvant | DeSian, what is UTC set to in /etc/default/rcS ? |
| 12:18.56 | DeSian | yes |
| 12:19.11 | Kvant | as it should be if you don't dualboot |
| 12:19.17 | DeSian | g00se, thnx, but that have nothing to do |
| 12:19.24 | g00se | Time in Copenhagen is Sun Oct 25 13:18:41 CET 2009 |
| 12:20.11 | DeSian | and g00se read my paste |
| 12:20.31 | Kvant | doing ntpdate with -b should fix it |
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| 12:21.50 | DeSian | i fixed so http://paste.debian.net/49883/ |
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| 12:22.06 | DeSian | thnx Kvant and g00se |
| 12:22.08 | themill | !ntpdate |
| 12:22.09 | dpkg | [ntpdate] a program that sets a system's clock using one of more NTP servers. It's useful for setting the time occasionally (like on boot or connecting to internet). Instead of using this obsolete and unmaintained program, just install the ntp package, add the 'iburst' option to the 'server' lines in ntp.conf, and make sure -g is among the NTPD_OPTS in /etc/default/ntp. Ask me about <ntp>. See also <why not ntpdate>. |
| 12:22.41 | g00se | DeSian: I did - that's why i mentioned ntpdate ;-) |
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| 12:23.03 | themill | DeSian: ^^ as a more permanent solution, run an ntp daemon. |
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| 12:23.28 | g00se | (But as themill says, ntp is the proper way to maintain a correct time) |
| 12:24.30 | g00se | Really you need both though, at least to begin with, as ntp won't make that large a correction |
| 12:24.35 | DeSian | ok i remove it but let me know how can correct it? |
| 12:25.02 | themill | g00se: it can with iburst and -g |
| 12:26.50 | g00se | themill: ah thanks. I'll take a look at that |
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| 12:27.22 | themill | g00se: they're in the default debian config now anyway, so it should just work out of the box for laptop users as well as server users. |
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| 12:36.36 | Ronis_BR | where can I get alpha versions of packages like k3b 1.68_alpha and kile 2.1_beta? |
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| 12:38.49 | themill | Ronis_BR: alpha as in the processor architecture formerly of DEC, HP, etc? |
| 12:39.24 | Ronis_BR | themill: alpha as version :D |
| 12:39.35 | Ronis_BR | themill: k3b for kde4 is alpha now |
| 12:39.55 | themill | judd versions k3b |
| 12:39.56 | judd | themill: k3b -- etch: 0.12.17-8 lenny: 1.0.5-3 sid: 1.0.5-3+b1 squeeze: 1.0.5-3+b1 experimental: 1.66.0~alpha2-1 |
| 12:40.26 | themill | Ronis_BR: ^^ it's in experimental, but that doesn't mean it won't eat your first-born. /msg dpkg experimental |
| 12:40.33 | Ronis_BR | themill: 1.66 is unusable, but 1.68 is fine, is there a alternative repository? |
| 12:40.40 | themill | not in debian |
| 12:40.52 | Ronis_BR | a backport or something |
| 12:41.17 | themill | a backport of what to what? think about what you're asking here.... |
| 12:41.39 | themill | !backport |
| 12:41.39 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.org/. Ask me about <backports.org> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
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| 12:42.16 | Ronis_BR | themill: sorry I mean a non-official reposistory |
| 12:42.20 | Ronis_BR | repository* |
| 12:42.46 | Ronis_BR | unofficial maybe is better :D |
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| 12:43.26 | themill | Ronis_BR: no idea. perhaps the k3b people make compatible packages. You might be able to update those packages in experimental yourself -- /msg dpkg uupdate |
| 12:43.35 | rdvonz_ | how do I make a new underprivileged user in the debian commandline? |
| 12:43.57 | Ronis_BR | themill: ok thanks! |
| 12:44.16 | themill | rdvonz_: adduser |
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| 12:44.42 | Ronis_BR | themill: because, if not, I'll have to install kde 3 just to install k3b :D |
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| 12:45.07 | themill | Ronis_BR: ahh... btw kile 2.1 beta is already in both squeeze and sid. |
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| 12:46.00 | Ronis_BR | themill: yes I see. I thought that like gentoo there is an unofficial repository with experimental packages of KDE |
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| 12:46.29 | themill | Ronis_BR: we have experimental and unstable for that |
| 12:46.41 | Ronis_BR | ok |
| 12:47.17 | Ronis_BR | themill: i'm asking that because when I have used debian almost 7 years ago, there is some alternative repository to install kde because it takes too much time to be updated at debian |
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| 12:47.26 | NicoOOoOo | comment ca s'appelle le truc qui est censsé supporté une plaque de cuisson a gaz ? |
| 12:47.32 | log69 | !why not ntpdate |
| 12:47.32 | dpkg | Use a daemon like ntpd, chrony or openntpd instead of ntpdate to keep your time synched. Rationale at: http://www.redhat.com/archives/nahant-list/2005-December/msg00009.html |
| 12:48.08 | themill | Ronis_BR: the debian KDE team are pretty much on top of things |
| 12:48.20 | Ronis_BR | themill: now they really are :D |
| 12:48.33 | Ronis_BR | themill: does debian provides the -dev things to compile packages yourself? |
| 12:49.19 | aucabarcas | hi. somebody can help me to solve this question: how can I know a program (e.g. sysctl) to which package (or meta-package) it belongs to? thanks in advance. |
| 12:50.24 | themill | Ronis_BR: yes. There are lots of -dev packages. apt-file can sometimes be the easiest way to work out what ones you need. Or "apt-get build-dep packagename" if you're building something for which there is already a debian package |
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| 12:50.49 | Ronis_BR | themill: thanks! |
| 12:51.28 | themill | aucabarcas: dpkg -S /sbin/sysctl ; dlocate /sbin/sysctl ; apt-file search /sbin/sysctl. |
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| 12:56.45 | Zitter | hi, I've plugged my ADSL conexant PCI but it isn't shown in lspci (neither an "unknow" pci is displayed). What I have to think? Is it damaged and to know if it's true I have to plug under a win SO, or can be a driver problem? |
| 12:57.04 | xand | see if the bios detects it |
| 12:57.11 | valdyn | Zitter: cant be a driver problem |
| 12:57.24 | valdyn | Zitter: if its not listed then the card or the pci slot are broken |
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| 12:58.06 | Zitter | ok |
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| 13:00.17 | poisonbit | backports should be send to mentors.d.o ? |
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| 13:00.32 | Codtv`Yuc | hello guys what is a good alternative for exchange on linux? |
| 13:00.33 | poisonbit | i see thjat e17 from sid, builds cleanly in lenny |
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| 13:00.52 | poisonbit | Codtv`Yuc, i don't know, but some people uses Zimbra |
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| 13:05.21 | cr3rzemjest | hi |
| 13:05.34 | cr3rzemjest | how do i use X when switching to other user in console |
| 13:05.41 | cr3rzemjest | i've already been told not to use x as root |
| 13:06.00 | med\weed | cr3rzemjest: if gdm/kdm/xdm/etc is not installed see if startx is |
| 13:06.03 | med\weed | can run that as user |
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| 13:06.29 | farri | I have a debian 4 hosting and I need to run a daemon that needs libc2.4 while in debian4 there is only debian2.3.6, someone suggested me a chroot environment, but I doubt if the daemon will be able to access the filesystem out of the chroot, I need it |
| 13:06.30 | guzu | hello all |
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| 13:06.43 | guzu | how do i install multimedia apps in 5.0.3? |
| 13:06.50 | factor | does anyone know where I can get a deb of the pitfdll package for debian 64bit? |
| 13:06.58 | cr3rzemjest | med\weed: i'm not sure if I and you understand... i have fully working xorg without problems and kde installed, but i can't use x apps as other user from console |
| 13:06.59 | valdyn | farri: it can access whatever filesystem |
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| 13:07.25 | med\weed | cr3rzemjest: next user should activate DISPLAY:0.1 |
| 13:07.32 | cr3rzemjest | "cannot open display :0 " etc |
| 13:07.33 | med\weed | or some such nonsense |
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| 13:07.38 | farri | valdyn: but everything I have read about chrrot is about securing and jailing, that's my doubt |
| 13:07.56 | valdyn | farri: chroot does not provide security |
| 13:08.05 | kleanchap | Where can I find Debian ISO? I do not want to install via the network. |
| 13:08.21 | asg | kleanchap: /msg dpkg ig |
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| 13:08.44 | farri | valdyn: I have created a directory in my user account and with debootstrap installed a lenny chroot environment, but when I chroot to it I get "segment violation" |
| 13:09.09 | valdyn | farri: lenny does not support 2.4 kernels |
| 13:09.34 | valdyn | farri: seg fault is far to vague to be useful to diagnose anything |
| 13:09.45 | kleanchap | asg: Thnx |
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| 13:09.51 | factor | no one has an idea where I could get eh pitfdll package compiled for 64 bit |
| 13:09.53 | laserlife | is there any maintenance ( scripts / apps / rm'ing log files ) needed to keep a debian home server running happily ? |
| 13:09.55 | farri | valdyn: my problem is that I have to run a daemon that needs libc2.4 while debian4 has libc2.3.6 |
| 13:10.03 | valdyn | farri: i know |
| 13:10.07 | kleanchap | Is Lenny 5.0.3 the latest version of Debian? |
| 13:10.26 | valdyn | kleanchap: yea |
| 13:10.26 | farri | valdyn: it's a python program talking to inotify kernel functions |
| 13:10.47 | valdyn | farri: does your kernel support inotify? |
| 13:11.03 | valdyn | !inotify |
| 13:11.03 | dpkg | A replacement for dnotify, currently in kernels >= 2.6.13 -- see: http://www.edoceo.com/creo/inotify/, or used by Beagle (a desktop search infrastructure), Gamin (a FAM replacement), and other projects. |
| 13:11.03 | farri | valdyn: do you think chroot is the way to go? yes, my kernel supports inotify, but not my libc |
| 13:11.21 | valdyn | farri: the lenny libc6 does support inotify |
| 13:11.30 | valdyn | farri: which mean that the libc6 in your chroot does also |
| 13:11.32 | kleanchap | 6 DVDs?!!! |
| 13:11.45 | kleanchap | When did Linux grow to this size? |
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| 13:12.19 | valdyn | kleanchap: debian has been growing exponentially from the beginning |
| 13:12.20 | farri | valdyn: yes, lenny does, but then how do I tell the daemon tu use this library, chroot? dchroot? schroot? there are too many optinons |
| 13:12.21 | asg | kleanchap: you don't need all of them |
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| 13:12.33 | valdyn | farri: thats not different options |
| 13:12.48 | valdyn | farri: thats different little tools for chroot |
| 13:13.00 | kleanchap | asg: which disks would I need to download? |
| 13:13.06 | farri | valdyn: so you suggest using chroot directly? |
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| 13:13.18 | valdyn | farri: nope, make up your own mind |
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| 13:13.40 | valdyn | farri: me crystal ball is out of service so i dont know your whole environment atm |
| 13:13.49 | farri | valdyn: I have never done any chroot environment, would accept suggestions |
| 13:13.57 | valdyn | farri: read the docs |
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| 13:14.14 | farri | valdyn: well, my whole environment is nothing, I mean, a plain debian install nothing more |
| 13:14.21 | asg | kleanchap: are you planning on installing any software via the net after you get an install up? If so, the first CD should be all you need to get started. |
| 13:14.35 | valdyn | farri: then upgrade to lenny |
| 13:14.51 | farri | valdyn: I can't upgrade to lenny, it's my hosting, they use debian4 |
| 13:15.07 | farri | in fact I asked for a debian5 but they don't have any |
| 13:15.13 | valdyn | farri: why cant you upgrade just because its hosted? |
| 13:15.15 | farri | they are using an outdated stable |
| 13:15.25 | valdyn | farri: switch hoster |
| 13:15.35 | farri | yes, might be the solution |
| 13:15.39 | valdyn | farri: your segfault could be because you are not using a debian kernel |
| 13:15.50 | valdyn | farri: and i certainly cant debug your non-debian kernel |
| 13:15.58 | kleanchap | asg: I want to install the major components like development tools, X11 packages and utilities via ISO image. After that I want to do a net install for the remainder of the software. |
| 13:15.59 | farri | valdyn: do you know of a good debian hosting? i am using dreamhost |
| 13:16.07 | valdyn | farri: please ask the channel |
| 13:16.16 | valdyn | farri: were hopping from one topic to the next |
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| 13:16.26 | farri | valdyn: no no, segfault no, I did nyself the debootstrap |
| 13:16.42 | farri | valdyn: I asked for debootstrap lennt |
| 13:16.46 | farri | valdyn: I asked for debootstrap lenny |
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| 13:16.56 | valdyn | farri: and you said something segfaulted |
| 13:17.13 | factor | looks like in the pitfdll no define for x86-64 bit .. anyone know what the #define should be for x86-64? |
| 13:17.21 | farri | valdyn: I will follow your suggestion, will read more about chroot environments, might be that I didn't complete the set up |
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| 13:21.46 | valdyn | factor: you cannot just use ptfdll on amd64 |
| 13:22.11 | factor | cant compile it either |
| 13:22.18 | valdyn | factor: right |
| 13:22.36 | factor | I think if I had the section for x86 I could hack up a version |
| 13:22.40 | factor | sorry |
| 13:22.44 | valdyn | factor: no you couldnt |
| 13:22.44 | factor | x86 64 bit |
| 13:22.45 | Codtv`Yuc | what is the difference with zimbra opensource and not opensource version ? |
| 13:22.48 | factor | x86 32 works |
| 13:23.01 | factor | I will look it up when I wake |
| 13:23.04 | valdyn | factor: a loader for 64-bit dlls would be an entirely new program |
| 13:23.11 | factor | not really |
| 13:23.16 | valdyn | factor: and a loader for 32-bit dlls on amd64 wouldntwork |
| 13:23.20 | Ronis_BR | is there a meta package to install whole KDE? |
| 13:23.25 | factor | alpha is 64 bit and works fine |
| 13:23.43 | valdyn | factor: you are using windows 64bit dlls on alpha? |
| 13:23.49 | Ronis_BR | is it kde-full? |
| 13:23.50 | valdyn | factor: that has to be very old dlls |
| 13:23.54 | factor | looks like the only diff , at least in this section is changing the values to ulong |
| 13:23.59 | factor | or ulonglong |
| 13:24.02 | valdyn | haha |
| 13:24.34 | factor | well anyway looks like it will work.. just not familiar with 64 bit defines. |
| 13:24.38 | factor | coding styles |
| 13:24.52 | valdyn | factor: the 64-bit windows abi is different |
| 13:27.09 | abrotman | Ronis_BR: 'kde' |
| 13:27.30 | Ronis_BR | abrotman: don't work |
| 13:27.51 | abrotman | Ronis_BR: which version of debian? |
| 13:27.58 | Ronis_BR | abrotman: sid |
| 13:28.04 | themill | !install kde |
| 13:28.04 | dpkg | For KDE3, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff (almost the full KDE), 'kde-core' only the core, 'kdebase' is the smallest. To install KDE instead of GNOME during Debian installation if you're not installing from the KDE CD, supply "tasks=standard, kde-desktop" at the boot prompt of any of the installers. For more details, see http://wiki.debian.org/KdeDebInstall. See also <kde version> <install kde4> |
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| 13:28.11 | themill | !install kde4 |
| 13:28.11 | dpkg | The metapackage "kde-full" installs tons of stuff, "kde-minimal" the basic kde4 desktop. For more details on these metapackages, see http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html. As these packages are fairly new still, you will probably do better asking questions in #debian-kde on irc.debian.org (irc.oftc.net). |
| 13:28.16 | abrotman | Ronis_BR: if you want stuff to work correctly, sid is not your best choice |
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| 13:28.36 | Ronis_BR | abrotman: I want up-to-date packages :) |
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| 13:29.01 | abrotman | though apparently the kde DDs are conspiring against me and renaming the package without a transitional package |
| 13:29.13 | LobbyZ | How do you bind a domain to a virtual server? |
| 13:29.16 | Ronis_BR | abrotman: yes, kde-full works |
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| 13:30.05 | Ronis_BR | abrotman: no big deal, I have used sid in ancient time :D |
| 13:30.35 | LobbyZ | My friend got a VPS at switchlink and he wants to link a Godaddy domain to it |
| 13:30.52 | LobbyZ | so when people access his godaddy domain, it goes to his vps |
| 13:30.56 | LobbyZ | if you get my point |
| 13:30.59 | LobbyZ | how do you do that? |
| 13:31.20 | guzu | what's the best way to have flash on 5.0.3/firefox? |
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| 13:32.53 | Ronis_BR | guzu: downloading from www.adobe.com? :) |
| 13:33.08 | jcranmer | I've updated Xorg, got my keyboard and my mouse working again, except for one thing |
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| 13:33.20 | jcranmer | suddenly the repeat rate on the keyboard went through the roof |
| 13:33.25 | guzu | Ronis_BR, i'll assume tar.gz is what i'm llokin for then |
| 13:33.28 | jcranmer | so just hitting a key doubles or triples |
| 13:33.29 | jcranmer | it |
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| 13:33.48 | LobbyZ | no answers to my question? Alrighty then |
| 13:33.48 | Ronis_BR | guzu: I don't use debian right now, but I think they have .deb |
| 13:34.04 | abrotman | !tell guzu about adobe flash |
| 13:34.06 | jcranmer | I can't login via gdm anymore, since the enter key is also doubled |
| 13:34.07 | guzu | Ronis_BR, they have .deb for ubuntu 804+ |
| 13:34.19 | guzu | Ronis_BR, thnx |
| 13:34.29 | Ronis_BR | np |
| 13:34.48 | wootR_ | Hey, I wonder what I need to do to bind my domain to my VPS, while they are at different hosters. Something about nameservers uh, but what exactly? Google couldnt really help :( |
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| 13:35.34 | abrotman | guzu: do not try to use that .deb package |
| 13:35.45 | guzu | Ronis_BR, is debian-multimedia safe to use? |
| 13:35.51 | guzu | abrotman, thank you |
| 13:35.54 | Ronis_BR | guzu: don't know, I don't use debian :D |
| 13:36.00 | guzu | ok:) |
| 13:36.08 | abrotman | guzu: dmm is one of the recmmended ways to get that package |
| 13:36.16 | Ronis_BR | I'm just trying to install KDE on a VBOX to see if I'll change from gentoo |
| 13:36.19 | mhymn | guzu: despite of what dpkg told you installing from adobe .tar.gz is easy too |
| 13:36.31 | guzu | hi mhymn |
| 13:36.36 | guzu | mhymn, thnx |
| 13:36.36 | mhymn | hi |
| 13:36.40 | mhymn | np |
| 13:37.09 | jcranmer | no, wait, that doesn't seem to be right |
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| 13:37.15 | abrotman | mhymn: there is an issue with using hte .tar.gz involving the alternatives system |
| 13:37.17 | jcranmer | it's more like it doubles the key input |
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| 13:38.22 | mhymn | abrotman: what issue? enlighten me please |
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| 13:39.49 | abrotman | mhymn: do you have a /etc/alternatives/libflash.so ? |
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| 13:40.14 | octo_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:40.25 | octo_ | i have another one like that but i cant gethe name with Tab, and I cant type that character? anyone have an idea how i can rename it |
| 13:40.39 | octo_ | once i renamed it i was able to get back in the dir again, otherwise it said it didnt exist |
| 13:40.41 | xand | wildcards |
| 13:40.45 | mhymn | abrotman: nope |
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| 13:41.07 | abrotman | mhymn: if you install gnash or swfdec, it will create that, and override your .tar.gz |
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| 13:41.51 | cr3rzemjest | hi |
| 13:42.01 | Ronis_BR | now a difficult question: if I copy my .kde4 from gentoo to debian, will all my kde configurations be preserved? |
| 13:42.43 | mhymn | abrotman: you mean it overrides the libflashplayer.so in ~/.mozilla/plugins directory? |
| 13:42.47 | cr3rzemjest | i have a dir with 770 rights, and inside that dir is a dir with 777, why i can't access that inner dir? |
| 13:43.33 | abrotman | mhymn: not sure about ~, but the /usr/lib/<browser>/plugins/libflashplayer.so one |
| 13:43.44 | abrotman | Ronis_BR: try it and see! |
| 13:44.14 | Ronis_BR | :D |
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| 13:44.36 | Ronis_BR | abrotman: I have 6GiB of emails from kmail that I don't want to download again :D |
| 13:44.54 | mhymn | abrotman: well, i just extracted that .tar.gz and put the .so in that directory and works fine, it might even be easier than .deb imho |
| 13:45.05 | abrotman | mhymn: but did you install gnash? |
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| 13:45.25 | mhymn | abrotman: no |
| 13:45.36 | mhymn | abrotman: we're talking about adobe flash player |
| 13:45.45 | abrotman | no, i'm talking about the alternatives system |
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| 13:46.33 | mhymn | my point in there's just the easyness and that's all, i see what you mean though |
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| 13:47.02 | mhymn | thanks for the info |
| 13:47.27 | rabidweezle | wow... tech support that didn't treat me like an idiot, there is a god, and he lives in india |
| 13:48.11 | rabidweezle | (had to pull out my warranty for a laptop power brick that is shorting out) |
| 13:48.56 | Selveste1 | Hey :) Im running Debian Lenny with some RAID1 and RAID5 drives, I have just resized some of my partitions, is there a way to force a new raid check? |
| 13:49.03 | abrotman | mhymn: and i'm telling you that if you install gnash it may mess it up (if you don't have gnash or swfdec installed, i guess it wouldn't matter) |
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| 13:50.10 | mhymn | abrotman: though i guess it'd not cause problem when .so is in ~ anyway |
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| 13:50.22 | Selveste1 | ontop of the RAID is there som LVM and it is thos I have changed in |
| 13:50.28 | abrotman | mhymn: i don't know, i don't put mine there, you'd have to try it and let me know |
| 13:51.01 | rabidweezle | .so go in /usr/lib or /lib or whatever |
| 13:51.19 | rabidweezle | then run ldconfig as super user |
| 13:51.38 | mhymn | rabidweezle: not when you manually put it in ~ |
| 13:51.39 | abrotman | wtf |
| 13:51.52 | rabidweezle | what lib? |
| 13:52.05 | mhymn | libflashplayer.so |
| 13:52.08 | rabidweezle | oh |
| 13:52.16 | Ronis_BR | is kde4 in debian installed at /usr/share or /usr/kde4/ ? |
| 13:52.28 | rabidweezle | that would go under .firefox/plugins or something like that |
| 13:52.44 | rabidweezle | checks |
| 13:53.27 | mhymn | abrotman: if i extract the gnash .deb it may be possible to find out what it does or no? |
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| 13:54.04 | abrotman | mhymn: yes .. but that's what i'm saying you'd have to do .. that the dmm/bpo packages do for you |
| 13:54.36 | mhymn | ohum |
| 13:54.58 | Selveste1 | Hey :) Im running Debian Lenny with some RAID1 and RAID5 drives, I have just resized some of my partitions, is there a way to force a new raid check? - ontop of the RAID is there some LVM thinks and it is thos I have changed in :) |
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| 13:56.32 | rabidweezle | woah, I don't have libflashplayer.so on my hard drive |
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| 13:56.38 | rabidweezle | yet I get flash, weird |
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| 13:57.01 | rabidweezle | it's not real flash though |
| 13:57.24 | mhymn | what you see isa .gif probably? :P |
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| 13:57.51 | rabidweezle | installs flashplugin-nonfree from backports |
| 13:58.10 | mhymn | i've had more luck with dmm myself |
| 13:59.33 | Ronis_BR | abrotman: yes it seems to work, since debian and gentoo install KDE at the same directories |
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| 14:00.07 | abrotman | mhymn: he has gnash or swfdec installed |
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| 14:00.21 | rabidweezle | install it to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins |
| 14:00.40 | rabidweezle | if it's for mozilla/firefox/iceweasel |
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| 14:08.57 | Selveste1 | Is there no-one that knows how to force-check RAID drives ? |
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| 14:11.06 | lollan | Hi, i try to get my wifi working with the Dell XPS 1530, I found this page : http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Dell/XPSm1530 at the wifi section they have two drivers, which one do I choose ? |
| 14:11.58 | Selveste1 | lollan: What vendore is you wifi ? Intel ? |
| 14:12.01 | guzu | what's the best way to have java plugin in 5.0.3? |
| 14:12.05 | guzu | firefox |
| 14:12.29 | dutchfish | lollan, well, the intel is the wireless one the other wired |
| 14:12.59 | abrotman | !tell guzu about install java |
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| 14:13.22 | abrotman | Selveste1: check the filesystem? |
| 14:13.44 | abrotman | dutchfish: there are two wifi adapters on the page |
| 14:13.48 | cirwin | how do I disable ipv6 - "modprobe -r ipv6" gives FATAL: Module ipv6 not found. |
| 14:13.51 | guzu | abrotman, thnx |
| 14:13.51 | lollan | dutchfish, did you look under the section wifi before replying ? |
| 14:13.52 | abrotman | lollan: lspci .. whihc one do you see ? |
| 14:14.13 | lollan | Selveste1, mine is broadcom but I was thinking that maybe both are installed or something like that |
| 14:14.16 | Selveste1 | abrotman: The FS is checked, but will that meen that my RAID1 and 5 is updated to ? |
| 14:14.26 | lollan | abrotman, the broadcom one |
| 14:14.36 | abrotman | lollan: so that's the one you have |
| 14:14.42 | abrotman | Selveste1: updated to what? |
| 14:15.02 | Selveste1 | abrotman: To the new state of my partitions |
| 14:15.06 | lollan | ok abrotman but how do I intalled it correctly ? I'm not too good with modprobe and stuff like that |
| 14:15.16 | Selveste1 | abrotman: my first post: Im running Debian Lenny with some RAID1 and RAID5 drives, I have just resized some of my partitions, is there a way to force a new raid check? - ontop of the RAID is there some LVM thinks and it is thos I have changed in :) |
| 14:15.20 | abrotman | lollan: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php .. says to read that |
| 14:15.33 | abrotman | lollan: which version of debian are you using ? |
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| 14:15.47 | lollan | abrotman, I use squeeze |
| 14:15.54 | abrotman | lollan: moment |
| 14:16.08 | lollan | cheers |
| 14:16.28 | abrotman | lollan: try installing the firmware-linux package |
| 14:16.52 | lollan | abrotman, so I don't install the broadcom ? |
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| 14:17.03 | abrotman | lollan: don't think so |
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| 14:17.25 | thohal | hi - im fighting with kernel 2.6.31-5-xen and nvidia-driver |
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| 14:17.57 | thohal | i found this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=540663, which seems very related ... |
| 14:18.16 | thohal | how can i get nvidia runnning on 2.6.31-5 with xen on lenny? |
| 14:18.19 | hark | cirwin: because it's built in |
| 14:18.48 | cirwin | hark: ok, so how do I turn it off? |
| 14:18.48 | abrotman | Selveste1: i'm not sure what you're trying to check .. maybe try to rephrase your question |
| 14:18.49 | lollan | abrotman, okay so I'm gonna install this package and see where it leads me. Thanks abrotman |
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| 14:19.58 | cirwin | hark: or are you implying I can't? |
| 14:20.04 | hark | cirwin: iirc there's a kernel boot option to disable it |
| 14:20.12 | abrotman | lollan: i'm looking just in case that wasn't it |
| 14:20.16 | cirwin | urgh |
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| 14:20.22 | lollan | ok thanks |
| 14:20.28 | cirwin | goes to duel with the network admins, that might be easier |
| 14:20.40 | Selveste1 | abrotman: I have resized my LVM drives those is ontop af som RAID5 drives (md5) is there a way to force the RAID5 drive to resync |
| 14:20.51 | abrotman | Selveste1: you probably don't have to do anything |
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| 14:21.02 | Selveste1 | abrotman: okay :) thanks :) |
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| 14:21.33 | hark | cirwin: why do you want to disable it? |
| 14:21.50 | cirwin | because my college network does not route it |
| 14:21.52 | abrotman | !tell lollan about wl |
| 14:22.00 | cirwin | so I have to wait for five minutes to connect to an ip6 site |
| 14:22.01 | abrotman | lollan: looks like you will need the one from the broadcom website |
| 14:22.18 | cirwin | (which irritatingly includes security.debian.org and my departmental website) |
| 14:22.33 | cirwin | ((though I can connect with firefox when I have disabled ip6 in that)) |
| 14:22.36 | abrotman | !tell lollan about bcm4312 |
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| 14:22.53 | hark | cirwin: you can configure it so that ipv4 is preferred over ipv6 in /etc/gai.conf |
| 14:22.59 | cirwin | ah |
| 14:23.07 | cirwin | this sounds like a much more better idea |
| 14:23.11 | hark | cirwin: but i found the boot option: "ipv6.disable=1" |
| 14:23.17 | lollan | Thanks abrotman but it's a bit too complicate for me T_T |
| 14:23.22 | hark | !dbugs 542470 |
| 14:23.26 | dpkg | DONE:#542470:N[linux-image-2.6.30-1-686] linux-image-2.6.30-1-686: IPv6 can not be disabled (); Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:57:07 UTC [] |
| 14:23.30 | hark | cirwin: ^^ |
| 14:23.32 | cirwin | thanks |
| 14:23.38 | cirwin | I will try with gai.conf |
| 14:23.40 | cirwin | it looks like fun |
| 14:23.57 | lollan | !tell lollan about wl |
| 14:24.19 | lollan | !tell lollan about ndiswrapper |
| 14:24.23 | hark | !tell lollan about selftell |
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| 14:25.09 | lollan | ok thanks hark didn't know |
| 14:25.34 | lollan | abrotman, I don't need ndiswrapper if I use the driver of broadcom no ? |
| 14:26.11 | abrotman | lollan: that's what it seems |
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| 14:26.58 | TrueDD | Howdy |
| 14:27.55 | hark | TrueDD is in the howdy phase now |
| 14:28.00 | lollan | abrotman, have you heard of a tutorial to install module "by hand" ? |
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| 14:28.35 | abrotman | lollan: no, but that website has a README.TXT .. seems to spell it out pretty well |
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| 14:29.49 | lollan | sorry abrotman I just got silly all of a sudden :p, thanks :) |
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| 14:30.05 | Selveste1 | !dbugs 519829 |
| 14:30.10 | dpkg | #519829:N[smbfs] mount.cifs: No such file or directory error while writting to previously opened file (); Sun, 15 Mar 2009 15:51:01 UTC [] |
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| 14:33.59 | lollan | abrotman, when I modprobe something how do I make sure that next time I reboot, it will load itself ? |
| 14:34.08 | babilen | Hi all. Is there a way to create mirror files and directories at a source *without* copying the contents of the files? As in just "touching" the files, so the names get created? |
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| 14:34.50 | babilen | I mean, sure there are plenty of ways, but is there a simple tool to do this? Some options to rsync to achieve that? |
| 14:34.55 | abrotman | lollan: /etc/modules |
| 14:35.27 | lollan | abrotman, then I need to put what I compiled into a special directory is that it ? |
| 14:35.56 | babilen | s/create mirror/mirror |
| 14:36.00 | abrotman | huh ? no when you compile the driver, it will go in the right place |
| 14:36.16 | abrotman | and make sure you keep that .tar.gz around .. you'llhave to recompile the driver when your kernel gets upgraded |
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| 14:41.09 | babilen | No ideas? |
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| 14:50.50 | Seb | hmm, how do I install a .31 kernel ? I get "No candidate version found for linux-image-2.6.31-trunk-686" |
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| 14:53.38 | poisonbit | Seb, http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-image&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
| 14:53.57 | poisonbit | it is not in debian at this moment |
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| 14:54.23 | docmax | WARNING: invoke-rc.d called during shutdown sequence |
| 14:54.30 | Seb | poisonbit: apt-cache sees it, though |
| 14:54.33 | docmax | i get this error on shutdown, what does it mean? |
| 14:54.36 | niklaswe | when i having Xorg running, i got in my tty1 Dropping master what means with that? |
| 14:54.46 | poisonbit | Seb, bad sources.list or not "Debian" |
| 14:55.05 | abrotman | Seb: apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.31-trunk-686 .. put it in a pastebin |
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| 15:06.47 | erlehmann | can anyone help me with restarting pulseaudio ? killall pulseaudio && /etc/init.d/pulseaudio force-reload && start-pulseaudio-x11 does not read the settings file :( |
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| 15:12.40 | micols | anyone know how to make dos boot with pxelinux ? |
| 15:12.44 | micols | over network if possible |
| 15:12.45 | krew | stew |
| 15:12.58 | micols | just like you can boot memtest i.e. |
| 15:13.11 | micols | can chainloader do this for me? |
| 15:13.20 | krew | stew |
| 15:13.35 | abrotman | krew: do you need help? |
| 15:13.44 | krew | yes from stew |
| 15:13.56 | abrotman | ask the whole channel, not just one person |
| 15:14.07 | krew | ok |
| 15:14.11 | Codtv`Yuc | hello guys what is a good alternative for exchange on linux? |
| 15:14.26 | yacyac | hello everyone.. is there any workstation monitoring software through i can monitor different debain installation |
| 15:14.36 | krew | stew are you gay? |
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| 15:14.56 | abrotman | Codtv`Yuc: for which part of exchange? |
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| 15:16.43 | Codtv`Yuc | uhmm i wanne make some email adresses |
| 15:16.57 | Codtv`Yuc | that can connect to to the server and then recieve mail |
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| 15:17.10 | Codtv`Yuc | i think i need imap or mapi protocol |
| 15:17.20 | Codtv`Yuc | that the mail can sync |
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| 15:17.31 | abrotman | Codtv`Yuc: lots of applications can do imap |
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| 15:19.08 | Codtv`Yuc | i have search a little bit can i cannot find a good answer what is the difference with imap en map |
| 15:19.10 | Codtv`Yuc | mapi |
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| 15:19.35 | Codtv`Yuc | and question 2 if i connect with my microsoft outlook to exchange server |
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| 15:22.07 | Codtv`Yuc | i'm new to mailservers but i need to go work with them |
| 15:22.12 | Codtv`Yuc | so what do u advice imap or mapi? |
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| 15:24.58 | lollan | thanks abrotman :) |
| 15:25.09 | abrotman | lollan: all working ? |
| 15:25.32 | lollan | not yet but I it will by tonight |
| 15:26.05 | lollan | i am looking to the place I put the wl.ko because it doesn't put itself to the right place |
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| 15:26.27 | lollan | I need the place where /etc/modules finds modules to load |
| 15:26.49 | lollan | however now my card is detected and I can scan for my wifi network ^^ |
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| 15:31.40 | Codtv`Yuc | can u use postfix as mailserver and then let microsft outlook connect to it using the imap protocol |
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| 15:33.11 | abrotman | postfix doesn't do imap, but something like dovecot would |
| 15:33.14 | abrotman | !search |
| 15:33.15 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking, e.g. 'apt-cache search regex', or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): 'dpkg -S /bin/foo', <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and <help find> (bot). <search dpkg> for factoids. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt and ask me about <bot help>. |
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| 15:34.10 | yacyac | how do i moniter remote linux computers from 1 location ? |
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| 15:38.55 | jelly-home | yacyac: there's a number of free and nonfree monitoring solutions. Try nagios. Or see eg. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_network_monitoring_systems |
| 15:40.43 | objorn | help please: W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian/dists/unstable/non-free/source/Sources 301 Moved Permanently |
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| 15:41.31 | yacyac | jelly-home, i will tell you my senario.. i am putting up a proposal to my company on installing debian in all our machins.. we have around 50 workstations around 5 locations. i can ssh and connect to the box and get everything done.. but i was thinking if there is any way to monitor all 50 workstations from one web location or something like that. |
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| 15:44.20 | jelly-home | yacyac: if you're looking at managing rather than just monitoring, there's a whole different set of tools, like cfengine or puppet |
| 15:44.46 | yacyac | i want to manage and monitor from one location |
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| 15:53.29 | radioguy33 | what is the easiest implementation of ipsec? i want to secure my wlan with ipsec and have not been successfull with setkey on both systems |
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| 15:55.04 | radioguy33 | anyone? |
| 15:55.47 | thohal | racoon @radioguy |
| 15:56.11 | nyk2005 | I am having trouble to install postgresql from the debian package. it was running perfectly when I compliled it myself, but now I get this error: "Creating new cluster (configuration: /etc/postgresql/8.3/main, data: /var/lib/postgresql/8.3/main)... |
| 15:56.12 | nyk2005 | FATAL: could not create shared memory segment: No space left on device" |
| 15:56.14 | radioguy33 | ok thanks |
| 15:56.34 | radioguy33 | thohal, - but before i look into racoon can it encrypt ALL wireless traffic? |
| 15:56.42 | radioguy33 | so that tcpdump shows encrypted ESP? |
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| 15:57.06 | nyk2005 | But it's not possible to reduce the number of connections or shared_buffers, because /etc/postgresql/ is still empty, so I can't change any settings!! |
| 15:57.11 | thohal | yap, thats the principal of ipsec /esp |
| 15:57.36 | radioguy33 | thohal, -is created a gateway necessary ? so that the traffic can pass tru it? |
| 15:57.40 | radioguy33 | or can it encrypt on the fly with racoon? |
| 15:57.41 | abrotman | nyk2005: df -h ? |
| 15:57.54 | nyk2005 | abrotman: noo... :) it's not the hdd |
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| 15:58.10 | valdyn | nyk2005: it is |
| 15:58.12 | nyk2005 | HINT: This error does *not* mean that you have run out of disk space. It occurs either if all available shared memory IDs have been taken, in which case you need to raise the SHMMNI parameter in your kernel, or because the system's overall limit for shared memory has been reached. |
| 15:58.14 | valdyn | nyk2005: that or a ramdisk |
| 15:58.31 | thohal | gw is possible |
| 15:58.39 | thohal | for lan2lan-tunnels |
| 15:58.40 | nyk2005 | it's a virtual machine.. |
| 15:58.59 | valdyn | nyk2005: does /dev/shm exist? |
| 15:59.04 | nyk2005 | but it would work, if it wouldn't request such an enormous amount of memory |
| 15:59.06 | radioguy33 | thohal, - thats another thing i dont get.. tunnels.. i just want encruption to/from the net not a tunnel between 2 machines |
| 15:59.18 | nyk2005 | valdyn: yes |
| 15:59.20 | radioguy33 | can racoon do that? |
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| 15:59.26 | valdyn | nyk2005: free space in it? |
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| 16:00.39 | nyk2005 | valdyn: tmpfs 4.0G 4.0K 4.0G 1% /dev/shm |
| 16:00.47 | thohal | radio, you will end up with tunnels |
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| 16:00.57 | radioguy33 | thohal, -which will do what i need? |
| 16:01.09 | nyk2005 | valdyn: about 4gb free space |
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| 16:01.14 | radioguy33 | thohal, and it will work transparently across the application layer? |
| 16:01.17 | valdyn | nyk2005: aye |
| 16:01.23 | thohal | imagine you have 192.168.1.10 in wlan , your ap is .254 - so you wil end up with a tunnel between .10 and .254 |
| 16:01.27 | thohal | yap |
| 16:01.30 | Irishmanluke | my sounds broke, can someone help me fix it? |
| 16:01.54 | radioguy33 | so tunnels between my ap and all my hosts in my lan? |
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| 16:02.09 | rgr | Irishmanluke: did it work before? what did you change |
| 16:02.14 | nyk2005 | ...and psql needs 8740864 byte, about 9 megs, so why isn't 4gb not enough for it?? |
| 16:02.14 | thohal | yap |
| 16:02.21 | radioguy33 | thohal, what if 2 of my hosts are windows based? |
| 16:02.23 | cahoot | Irishmanluke: run speaker-test - any error? |
| 16:02.38 | thohal | windows supports ipsec too |
| 16:02.48 | valdyn | nyk2005: which version is libc6? |
| 16:02.51 | radioguy33 | something needs to run on the windows host? |
| 16:02.56 | Irishmanluke | cahoot: yeah, ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave |
| 16:02.56 | Irishmanluke | Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory |
| 16:02.56 | Irishmanluke | ^C |
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| 16:03.13 | Irishmanluke | unable to open slave |
| 16:03.13 | nyk2005 | valdyn: how can I see? |
| 16:03.20 | valdyn | nyk2005: dpkg -l libc6 |
| 16:03.21 | cahoot | Irishmanluke: you are member of audio group? |
| 16:03.30 | Irishmanluke | cahoot: yeah |
| 16:03.38 | thohal | http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb742429.aspx @radio |
| 16:03.44 | cahoot | id agrees? |
| 16:03.48 | thohal | blame on me for the M$-link :-( |
| 16:03.56 | nyk2005 | valdyn: libc6 2.7-18 |
| 16:04.04 | radioguy33 | thohal, thanks im gonna get to work |
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| 16:04.25 | radioguy33 | thohal, one clarifation, ap can be my router? |
| 16:04.38 | nyk2005 | valdyn: I kept it upgraded before trying to install the postgresql metapackage |
| 16:04.39 | valdyn | nyk2005: postgresql shouldnt be running anything fancy before the config is in place i would think |
| 16:04.44 | Irishmanluke | cahoot: yeah id agrees |
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| 16:04.59 | thohal | if you re ap supports ipsec ;-) |
| 16:05.05 | cahoot | Irishmanluke: try alsa force-reload (as root) |
| 16:05.06 | radioguy33 | i have a wrt54g |
| 16:05.16 | nyk2005 | valdyn: it's running pg_createcluster |
| 16:05.17 | thohal | nice ;-) |
| 16:05.21 | valdyn | nyk2005: which would mean that you had the package installed, ( possibly removed it ), then deleted the config before reinstalling postgres |
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| 16:05.44 | l3x | iptables command doesn't work. using debian: iptables v1.4.2: Unknown arg `(null)' |
| 16:05.44 | l3x | Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information. |
| 16:05.47 | valdyn | !confmiss |
| 16:05.48 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>; |
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| 16:05.52 | valdyn | nyk2005: try ^^ |
| 16:05.55 | Irishmanluke | cahoot: I get an error with alsa force-reload |
| 16:06.16 | valdyn | nyk2005: and the package is postgresql-common |
| 16:06.25 | nyk2005 | valdyn: yes I had it installed, then the update broke my database, so I had to use the selfcompiled. now I'm ready to go back to the deb package. I deleted any occurrence of postgresql (using find) from the FS. |
| 16:06.29 | Irishmanluke | cahoot: failed modules still loaded, and then a number of module names |
| 16:06.47 | valdyn | nyk2005: ok thats what i thought |
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| 16:06.58 | valdyn | nyk2005: use confmiss, what dpkg said, for postgresql-common |
| 16:07.01 | l3x | anyone familiar with iptables? |
| 16:07.02 | cahoot | Irishmanluke: try (as root) fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp* |
| 16:07.11 | Irishmanluke | ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:996:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave |
| 16:07.11 | Irishmanluke | Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory |
| 16:07.11 | Irishmanluke | ^C |
| 16:07.15 | Irishmanluke | sorry |
| 16:07.17 | nyk2005 | I see, so "--force-confmiss" could somehow fix it, when used in the right place? |
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| 16:07.59 | nyk2005 | valdyn: postgresql-common is the package with all the config and stuff? |
| 16:08.08 | Irishmanluke | cahoot: cannot stat /dev/dsp*: no such file or directory |
| 16:08.13 | valdyn | nyk2005: yes |
| 16:08.18 | poisonbit | l3x, you've a syntax mistake, if you use bash and variables for rules, review all |
| 16:08.39 | nyk2005 | valdyn: so I could install that first and then modify it to use less memory and then install the binaries and the db cluster... |
| 16:08.43 | valdyn | nyk2005: do it for postgresql-client-common too |
| 16:08.49 | abrotman | l3x: there is a #netfilter to help with iptables |
| 16:08.51 | radioguy33 | thohal, - see my router supports l2tp and ipsec |
| 16:08.54 | nyk2005 | valdyn: cool, thanks! I'll try this now! |
| 16:08.54 | valdyn | nyk2005: you dont need to do more than what dpkg said |
| 16:09.00 | cahoot | Irishmanluke: nothing else? |
| 16:09.13 | Irishmanluke | cahoot: just that twice |
| 16:09.16 | l3x | o ok thank you abrotman |
| 16:09.32 | nyk2005 | valdyn: very nice! |
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| 16:10.19 | nyk2005 | valdyn: but purge again it all before? |
| 16:10.32 | valdyn | nyk2005: no |
| 16:10.38 | nyk2005 | valdyn: I mean purge all psql stuff before? no? |
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| 16:11.17 | nyk2005 | valdyn: I just try |
| 16:12.26 | cahoot | Irishmanluke: I suppose alsa force-unload also fails |
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| 16:13.27 | nyk2005 | valdyn: /etc/postgresql is still empty after "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall postgresql-common" |
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| 16:13.45 | Irishmanluke | cahoot: yeah |
| 16:14.07 | valdyn | nyk2005: not possible when postgresql-common contains autovacuum.conf |
| 16:14.53 | cahoot | Irishmanluke: no apps loaded that use sound? like browser + flash or such |
| 16:15.25 | nyk2005 | valdyn: yes, /etc/postgresql-common contains some things, like autovacuum.conf |
| 16:15.50 | nyk2005 | valdyn: but why is /etc/postgresql empty? |
| 16:16.19 | Irishmanluke | cahoot: not that I know of |
| 16:17.31 | valdyn | nyk2005: yea, damn , i missed that one, debian ships no /etc/postgresql |
| 16:17.41 | valdyn | nyk2005: misread |
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| 16:18.02 | valdyn | nyk2005: now use confmiss or purge and reinstall all those packages and see what that gives |
| 16:18.48 | nyk2005 | valdyn: ok... |
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| 16:20.32 | nyk2005 | valdyn: purging all postgresql package, then "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall postgresql"? |
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| 16:20.58 | nyk2005 | I mean "install" |
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| 16:21.13 | valdyn | nyk2005: you dont need to purge if you use confmiss |
| 16:21.28 | valdyn | nyk2005: the alternative to purgeing and reinstalling is using confmiss |
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| 16:22.56 | tuantub | hi, i have a question : i holded somw packages but forget which packages it were, which command should i use to find out the names of these packages ? |
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| 16:24.31 | Irishmanluke | cahoot: my microphone seems to work but not my speakers |
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| 16:25.26 | cahoot | Irishmanluke: see if /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0 make any change |
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| 16:26.54 | Irishmanluke | cahoot: I get the same error with speaker-test |
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| 16:30.06 | cahoot | Irishmanluke: if you can't unload/reload the alsa modules I see no alternative to a reboot |
| 16:30.12 | [Jasper] | guys I have been unable to install a bigmem linux kernel |
| 16:30.26 | [Jasper] | it keeps trying to connect to security.debian.org |
| 16:30.28 | [Jasper] | and is unable to connect |
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| 16:30.49 | Irishmanluke | cahoot: ok back in a sec |
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| 16:33.50 | [Jasper] | guys can anybody tell me about security.debian.org? |
| 16:33.53 | [Jasper] | how can I connect to it? |
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| 16:36.16 | abrotman | [Jasper]: can you get to it in a browser ? |
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| 16:36.53 | Irishmanluke | cahoot: back |
| 16:37.56 | abrotman | [Jasper]: what is the actual error ? |
| 16:37.56 | Ronis_BR | that's wierd, kdelibs 4.* is named kdelibs5 :D |
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| 16:38.29 | Irishmanluke | cahoot: modules reloaded and speaker works |
| 16:38.29 | valdyn | Ronis_BR: abi vs api change |
| 16:38.37 | Irishmanluke | cahoot: yay, thank you ! |
| 16:38.39 | Ronis_BR | valdyn: what? |
| 16:38.45 | Ronis_BR | valdyn: api? abi? :) |
| 16:38.50 | cahoot | Irishmanluke: np |
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| 16:39.01 | [Jasper] | hmm abrotman it keeps trying to conect |
| 16:39.05 | [Jasper] | stays on 0% |
| 16:39.08 | valdyn | Ronis_BR: 4.x is an api version, the package name contains the 5 because of abi changes |
| 16:39.16 | abrotman | [Jasper]: and the browser ? |
| 16:39.25 | [Jasper] | how can i test if I can get to it via my browser abrotman.. it links me to www.debian.org/security |
| 16:39.29 | [Jasper] | as soon as i enter: http://security.debian.org/ |
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| 16:40.08 | abrotman | http://security.debian.org/dists/ |
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| 16:40.27 | [Jasper] | hmm I can get to that via mhy browser |
| 16:40.30 | [Jasper] | didn't try on the box |
| 16:40.53 | [Jasper] | it's on the same network |
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| 16:40.56 | [Jasper] | so shouldn't be a problem |
| 16:41.01 | [Jasper] | sorry for the enters btw |
| 16:41.15 | abrotman | [Jasper]: security.debian.org is a roundrobin .. might be that one of them is down |
| 16:41.28 | [Jasper] | abrotman I can just take any mirror for it? |
| 16:41.38 | [Jasper] | the same happens for volatile.debian.org....kinda weird |
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| 16:41.48 | abrotman | are you sure there isn't a network issue ? |
| 16:41.56 | ultraviolett | ciao! |
| 16:42.09 | [Jasper] | I replaced the mirrror with another one..and suddenly it works.. |
| 16:42.10 | [Jasper] | so i guess not |
| 16:43.18 | jandro | Hi. Does anyone know why my CPU usage increases considerably when moving windows around on gnome? Shouldn't this work be loaded on the graphic card? I just installed the nvidia drivers from the repositories on squeeze 64bits with nvidia 8600g mt. Direct rendering=yes and glx module loaded on xorg.conf. Any idea what is wrong? cheers |
| 16:43.45 | valdyn | jandro: using kde composite or compiz or similar? |
| 16:43.46 | [Jasper] | this is very weird abrotman, I changed the mirror and NOW I get |
| 16:43.55 | [Jasper] | W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.tiscali.nl lenny/updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1246455239 |
| 16:44.02 | jandro | valdyn: no, not al all, simple gnome desktop |
| 16:44.16 | abrotman | [Jasper]: aptitude install debian-archive-keyring ? |
| 16:44.33 | valdyn | jandro: even then its ok |
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| 16:45.38 | valdyn | jandro: you can try enabling the backing store |
| 16:46.01 | jandro | valdyn: I used to have ubuntu installed on the laptop before and the CPU usage barely moved, so I think something must be wrong or missing, maybe any other module to be loaded or something? |
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| 16:48.28 | jandro | valdyn: never heard about backing store, I'm going to look at it, thanks |
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| 16:49.29 | docmax | WARNING: invoke-rc.d called during shutdown sequence |
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| 16:49.38 | docmax | its happening when entering runlevel 6 |
| 16:49.48 | docmax | how can i debug this error? |
| 16:49.58 | valdyn | docmax: its a warning, not an error |
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| 16:50.43 | docmax | valdyn, yeah but its annoying... how can i fix it? |
| 16:50.49 | [Jasper] | 58% [Connecting to security.debian.org (2001:a78::16)] [Connecting to volatile. |
| 16:50.56 | [Jasper] | abrotman it took very long to get passed that |
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| 16:51.00 | \amethyst | docmax: what are the messages before and after? |
| 16:51.00 | [Jasper] | like 3 minutes |
| 16:51.01 | eshat | hi all.... I noticed that windows 7 runs much faster than kde 4.3.2. can that be ? it may also be, that KDE is not optimized for fullHD monitors yet. |
| 16:51.22 | \amethyst | docmax: that will tell you where in the shutdown sequence it is happening, which will tell you what script has the problem |
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| 16:52.02 | docmax | its going so fast... its after shutting down several daemons |
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| 16:52.28 | angevin | "Linux is bloated." -- Linus Torvalds Unix philosophy point #6 : Rule of Parsimony: Write a big program only when it is clear by demonstration that nothing else will do. "Linux has never been about quality there are just so many parts of the system that are these cheap little hacks and it just happens to run... I don't know what is his (Linus Torvalds) focus is anymore but it isn't quality." -- Theo De Raadt |
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| 16:52.58 | angevin | Linux is for bitches and dumb ones at that |
| 16:53.03 | Seb | abrotman: ah I see, it's in experimental |
| 16:53.18 | Seb | abrotman: I'll append /experimental |
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| 16:53.23 | Seb | abrotman: thanks |
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| 16:54.25 | docmax | is sysv-rc-conf obsolede? |
| 16:54.40 | Ronis_BR | valdyn: I understand |
| 16:54.56 | docmax | reboot for example is in runlevel 6 |
| 16:55.13 | Ronis_BR | valdyn: some packages has a configuration process that uses ncurses. Is there a way to add this to a .deb that I eventually make? |
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| 16:56.12 | valdyn | Ronis_BR: you can but you should not |
| 16:56.21 | valdyn | Ronis_BR: debian configuration is done by debconf |
| 16:56.22 | dreamer | hi all, I finally got this craptop to be full-screen (X wouldn't use the full screen width/hight but only the center 800x600), but the resolution is still stuck at 800x600 instead of the possible 1024x786 |
| 16:56.48 | Ronis_BR | valdyn: ok |
| 16:56.52 | jandro | valdyn: I added Option "BackingStore" "True" buy the CPU still increases its usage a lot. |
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| 16:57.37 | jandro | valdyn: do you know of any other thing I could try? |
| 16:58.30 | roe | Am I the only one what would like a flag for scp to follow the successful upload with an ssh session? |
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| 17:00.45 | abrotman | roe: scp foo bar && ssh host ? |
| 17:00.50 | docmax | can i go step by step in a runlevel? |
| 17:01.22 | roe | abrotman, the advantage is to cut down on redundant typing, that doesn't really fulfill that request |
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| 17:01.40 | abrotman | patches welcome! |
| 17:02.06 | roe | gets on it |
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| 17:03.46 | dreamer | oh btw, I'm running Squeeze. and btw, X tried to use the trident driver for my card, but when generating an xorg.conf and changing to vesa I finally got full-screen. I also set it to 16bit and added a modeline |
| 17:04.07 | dreamer | but apparantly it's not taking the modes |
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| 17:05.13 | Lotto | http://action.metaffiliation.com/suivi.php?mclic=S42350516A5D1117 |
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| 17:06.36 | yper | hey, how do I access my debian server via ssh, which is installed inside of virtualbox? |
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| 17:07.25 | roe | yper, ssh user@host |
| 17:07.28 | \amethyst | yper: that depends on how you configured the virtual network interface in virtualbox; #vbox might be able to help more |
| 17:08.01 | \amethyst | yper: since that will determine the virtual machine's IP address and how it is routed |
| 17:08.36 | pistache | once you have the machin's IP, you should be able to connect |
| 17:09.00 | \amethyst | yper: (assuming you have installed openssh-server on the guest server of course) |
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| 17:09.16 | Ecco | Hello :-) |
| 17:09.29 | Ecco | I'm looking forward to install AwesomeWM (http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=awesome) |
| 17:09.34 | yper | \amethyst, thanks. could be a problem that I set host name as "localhost". won't that be mixed with client computer? |
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| 17:09.48 | Ecco | I'd like to run the latest version (3.4), but otherwise keep other packages in "stable" version |
| 17:09.51 | Ecco | is it possible to do that ? |
| 17:09.55 | yper | \amethyst, i do have openssh server installed, of course :) |
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| 17:11.34 | abrotman | Ecco: you can try to backport it yourself |
| 17:12.00 | Ecco | abrotman: I'm pretty new to Debian in general. Is it hard to do ? |
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| 17:12.25 | Ecco | In a general fashion, is it somthing usual, or is it A Bad Thing ® |
| 17:12.26 | Ecco | ? |
| 17:12.48 | abrotman | Ecco: depends .. it's not always an easy thing to do |
| 17:12.52 | Ecco | Ok |
| 17:13.01 | Lotto | http://bio.pdg.pl/ |
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| 17:13.28 | abrotman | you can try it though |
| 17:13.32 | abrotman | !tell Ecco about ssb |
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| 17:14.22 | Ecco | Hmm, didn't do anything :-) |
| 17:14.50 | abrotman | the bot told you something in msg |
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| 17:15.54 | Ecco | Oh, ok |
| 17:15.58 | Ecco | My window didn't scroll |
| 17:16.01 | Ecco | thanks :-) |
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| 17:20.46 | mhymn | abrotman: Lotto wants ban i guess |
| 17:20.56 | abrotman | he's gone |
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| 17:21.26 | abrotman | we'll see if he comes back again i guess |
| 17:22.37 | mhymn | abrotman: i'm just saying because he did it two times at least |
| 17:22.47 | abrotman | i know |
| 17:22.49 | roe | I wish instead of yawm some of that effort would be put toward developing xserver |
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| 17:22.52 | mhymn | okay. |
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| 17:23.19 | simonrvn | yes twice, as far as my lastlog goes |
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| 17:24.32 | nyk2005 | valdyn: well... then I hope it works, because I tried purge/install already.. |
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| 17:27.14 | [Elvis] | getting really frustrated with security.debian.org |
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| 17:27.49 | chomwitt | is there a gui way (from within a file system browser) to share a folder in a lan with NFS? |
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| 17:29.13 | nsadmin_ | chomwitt: first off that would require root access (or some kind of access to /etc/exports) |
| 17:29.34 | [Elvis] | is there anyone who can hepl me solve this security.debian.org issue? |
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| 17:30.09 | abrotman | [Elvis]: did you try to load that page from the broken machine ? |
| 17:31.00 | [Elvis] | is there a basic browser? |
| 17:31.02 | [Elvis] | lynx right? |
| 17:31.45 | Maulkin | [Elvis]: What actually is the issue? |
| 17:31.48 | [Elvis] | it works abrotman |
| 17:31.55 | [Elvis] | I can go to that website from my browser |
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| 17:31.59 | Ronis_BR | skype dev version is for lenny, is there any problem to install it on sid? |
| 17:32.09 | abrotman | Ronis_BR: ask them |
| 17:32.13 | [Elvis] | but apt-get update hangs on security.debian.org or on volatile.debian.org |
| 17:32.22 | [Elvis] | and sometimes like after 5 minutes...it suddenly continues |
| 17:32.22 | abrotman | [Elvis]: does aptitude also ? |
| 17:32.25 | Ronis_BR | abrotman: ? |
| 17:32.25 | [Elvis] | but mostly it hangs |
| 17:32.31 | Ronis_BR | abrotman: dev = deb |
| 17:32.32 | [Elvis] | haven't got aptitude installed |
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| 17:32.41 | abrotman | Ronis_BR: ask skype .. |
| 17:33.06 | abrotman | Ronis_BR: or just try it |
| 17:33.06 | dreamer | Ronis_BR: their package is not made by debian people |
| 17:33.10 | Ronis_BR | ah |
| 17:33.12 | Ronis_BR | thanks |
| 17:33.30 | Ronis_BR | abrotman: I'm looking if I change gentoo to debian, there is something that I can't do in a VM :D |
| 17:33.34 | [Elvis] | abrotman for some reason the resolve seems to fail |
| 17:33.42 | [Elvis] | but at the other hand..when I test it it works fine |
| 17:33.44 | Ronis_BR | abrotman: using microphone is one of them |
| 17:34.14 | abrotman | [Elvis]: lame dns server ? |
| 17:34.21 | [Elvis] | hmm |
| 17:34.27 | [Elvis] | but it doesn't look like a resolv issue |
| 17:34.31 | [Elvis] | every time I ping it etc |
| 17:34.33 | [Elvis] | it works fine |
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| 17:36.41 | Ronis_BR | abrotman: it is complaining that it is from a different arch (i386), i'm using amd64. Is there a way to install it anyway? |
| 17:37.08 | abrotman | Ronis_BR: there is no amd64 package for skype? |
| 17:37.17 | Ronis_BR | no |
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| 17:37.40 | Ronis_BR | only to unbuntu |
| 17:37.43 | Ronis_BR | ubuntu* |
| 17:39.01 | Akranis | Ronis_BR: What package file format does arch use? |
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| 17:39.03 | Akranis | rpm? |
| 17:39.03 | dreamer | anyone care te check my Xorg.0.log? I can't really read it. But I see some 1024x768 modes present. Just not sure why X can't use them: http://pastebin.com/m458209e4 |
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| 17:39.29 | Ronis_BR | Akranis: deb |
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| 17:39.43 | Akranis | Ronis_BR: It should theoreticly still work. |
| 17:39.49 | [Elvis] | no other ideas what the problem can be abrotman ? |
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| 17:40.00 | radioguy33 | can someone help me out if you know ipsec/racoon, i have an error msg http://pastebin.ca/1642838 |
| 17:40.01 | Akranis | Unless it uses packages that arch doesn't have in the repos |
| 17:40.09 | Ronis_BR | Akranis: dpkg -i shows an error |
| 17:40.13 | abrotman | dreamer: you're using the vesa driver on a trident card ... |
| 17:40.17 | Akranis | ah |
| 17:40.35 | comps | is there a way to kernel-panic on switch_root failure in an iniramfs? I could then set a panic timeout on append line and automatically reboot back if something messes up. Would BUSYBOX=n in initramfs.conf do the trick? |
| 17:40.54 | \amethyst | dreamer: (II) VESA(0): Monitor0: Using hsync range of 31.50-37.90 kHz Not using built-in mode "1024x768" (hsync out of range) |
| 17:41.03 | dreamer | abrotman: the trident driver can't use the full screen, only the center 800x600 , I had this on this laptop before and then the vesa driver resolved this and made the full resolution available |
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| 17:41.23 | [Elvis] | putting the ip in the hosts solved it abrotman |
| 17:41.34 | abrotman | [Elvis]: that's a little odd |
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| 17:41.57 | [Elvis] | why abrotman ?> |
| 17:42.06 | abrotman | [Elvis]: it implies a bad dns server |
| 17:42.06 | nsadmin_ | comps: couldn't busybox do the reboot? |
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| 17:42.15 | [Elvis] | it does abrotman |
| 17:42.23 | [Elvis] | but the weird trhing is, my laptop is using the same dns |
| 17:42.25 | [Elvis] | and works fine |
| 17:43.22 | [Elvis] | anyways, its working now |
| 17:43.23 | [Elvis] | gotta go |
| 17:43.25 | [Elvis] | thx for the help |
| 17:43.35 | dreamer | \amethyst: hmm, but how do I use a different hsync? |
| 17:43.40 | comps | nsadmin_: well, yes, I could write a set of custom wrappers or generate my own initramfs, I was just asking if there's some trick for the debian update-initramfs script |
| 17:43.51 | radioguy33 | anyone? |
| 17:43.57 | radioguy33 | i cant find my error msg on google or anything |
| 17:44.38 | nsadmin_ | comps: and/or add a reboot timer to busybox |
| 17:45.08 | nsadmin_ | but that solution could cause a reboot loop |
| 17:45.37 | comps | no problem, I'm able to use fallback bootloader mechanisms |
| 17:46.14 | comps | just trying to find where to set that timer |
| 17:46.40 | nsadmin_ | think about adding something to busybox (instead of considering how to get the kernel to panic in yet another way) |
| 17:47.10 | nsadmin_ | that would be an exploit waiting to happen :) |
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| 17:47.48 | comps | yes, I can modify the init script packed in by update-initramfs |
| 17:47.57 | comps | and do a reboot instead of launching /bin/sh |
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| 17:48.18 | comps | but the maintainability of that wouldn't be so good |
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| 17:50.17 | comps | I mean - there are tons of debian servers without serial console .. and nobody ever thought that a nice initramfs commandline is useless on a remote machine? I doubt it |
| 17:52.09 | thohal | im having problems with make-kpkg on debian lenny with 2.6.31 |
| 17:52.15 | thohal | ..... |
| 17:52.15 | thohal | INSTALL debian/linux-image-2.6.31.5/lib/firmware/2.6.31.5/keyspan_pda/xircom_pgs.fw |
| 17:52.15 | thohal | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:52.15 | thohal | make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/kernel-2.6.31/linux-2.6.31.5' |
| 17:52.15 | thohal | test ! -f Documentation/lguest/lguest || \ |
| 17:52.15 | thohal | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:56.01 | comps | nsadmin_: and looks like I was right .. "panic sets an timeout on panic. panic=<sec> is a documented security feature: it disables the debug shell." from man initramfs-tools :) .. thanks anyway |
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| 17:57.13 | comps | (looks like the initramfs detects the panic parameter from /proc/cmdline and fails without a shell if it's present) |
| 17:57.38 | rgr | just "upgraded" to testing once more from Lenny. And quelle surprise. A load of Gnome icons duplicated in my menus. Will they ever get it right :-; I must say though the move to lenny was pretty painless other then this and gnome seems a lot nicer. |
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| 18:02.10 | cahoot | thanks for sharing |
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| 18:02.51 | rgr | move to testing I should say : from lenny to testing. |
| 18:03.00 | dvs | rgr: squeeze isn't ready for release so expect anything |
| 18:03.22 | rgr | I dont. its testing as far as I'm concerned. Its nice. |
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| 18:03.52 | dvs | dvs: I'm still wrestling with my wireless on my laptop but my desktop has been problem free. |
| 18:04.04 | dvs | oops! heheh |
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| 18:04.41 | rgr | The default taskbar mail checker in gnome is not letting me select a secure connection for imap polling. I guess I must be missing some library, but what? |
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| 18:04.54 | _tux | what are the console commands for wireless lan configuration |
| 18:05.38 | dvs | _tux: iwconfig ? I'm not sure. I set everything up in the config files. |
| 18:05.46 | comps | _tux: iwconfig / ifconfig / ip ? |
| 18:06.08 | nate4096 | Is there a standard script floating around that adds any /usr/local/*/bin directories to one's path? Laziness dictates I copy an existing one rather than rewriting from scratch. :) |
| 18:06.22 | _tux | dvs: i want to configure my wlan card for a wpa2 wireless network |
| 18:06.38 | cahoot | _tux: just run wpa-supplicant? |
| 18:06.47 | _tux | what are the files that i have to take care of? /etc/network/interfaces |
| 18:06.52 | comps | nate4096: well, you can simply add the PATH modification to ~/.bashrc or global one in /etc |
| 18:07.00 | dvs | _tux: Yeah, wpa-supplicant is what you want to mess around with. |
| 18:07.23 | _tux | dvs: doesnt work |
| 18:07.37 | cahoot | _tux: just run wpa-supplicant withe correct options |
| 18:07.48 | dvs | _tux: http://wiki.debian.org/WPA |
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| 18:08.25 | dvs | Let me find something better |
| 18:08.25 | nate4096 | comps, just looking for the automated solution which loops over all /usr/local/* directories, does the [ -d bin ] check, then appends to $PATH |
| 18:08.41 | cahoot | _tux: your confident your wifi device is properly supprted, like appropriate firmware in place if needed? |
| 18:08.42 | comps | nate4096: a simple for i in /usr/local/*/bin; do PATH="$PATH:$i"; done; export PATH could do the trick |
| 18:08.50 | comps | oh right |
| 18:09.20 | dvs | This is a better link: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=27573 |
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| 18:10.45 | _tux | thanks |
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| 18:10.50 | dvs | np |
| 18:11.13 | anoob | hi, vesa drivers provide me only 800x600 resolution |
| 18:11.25 | anoob | how can i get 1024x768? |
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| 18:11.39 | farri | I need help to set up a chrooted lenny environment within sarge machine so one daemon can access libc6 2.4, all docs I find are too complex I am mad |
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| 18:12.58 | farri | if someone has experience setting up chroot environments I would thank some help |
| 18:13.05 | abrotman | farri: debootstrap ? |
| 18:13.07 | rares | any luck for intel i845 i945 i965 video drivers? |
| 18:13.11 | abrotman | farri: you really shouldn't still be running sarge |
| 18:13.21 | rares | i get random lock ups |
| 18:13.23 | abrotman | rares: are you having bad luck ? |
| 18:13.31 | abrotman | my intel works fine here |
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| 18:13.47 | nate4096 | indeed comps, thank you. still haven't gotten around to really digging into shell scripting. :) |
| 18:13.59 | rares | are you using the intel X11 driver or something like vesa |
| 18:14.08 | abrotman | the intel one |
| 18:14.18 | rares | which chip do you have? |
| 18:14.35 | farri | abrotman: let's explain the whole story, I am hosted in dreamhost and they dont run debian lenny, they run debian etch (sorry not sarge) |
| 18:14.38 | rares | i have a i845 (82845) |
| 18:15.03 | rares | one of those Iwill square pc boxes |
| 18:15.05 | abrotman | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device [8086:3582] (rev 01) |
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| 18:15.17 | rares | 855.. |
| 18:15.21 | abrotman | farri: most people use debootstrap AFAIK |
| 18:15.51 | farri | abrotman: my problem is that I have a python program, a daemon, that needs to access inotify services, and they got included in libc2.4 but etch use libc2.3.6 so I can't even run the daemon |
| 18:16.07 | farri | abrotman: yes I have used debootstrap, this is the easy part :) |
| 18:16.30 | rares | my screen locks up and mouse moves but keyboard does not respond (except for Magic SYSRQ) |
| 18:17.51 | rares | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01) |
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| 18:17.56 | farri | abrotman: this daemon checks for modified files within a directory, si instead of pollin it uses inotify, but in any case, my need is to be able to execute the daemon but using libc>=2.4 |
| 18:18.20 | abrotman | farri: can't you use fam or something instead ? |
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| 18:18.43 | farri | abrotman: fam? well, I didn't program the daemon :) |
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| 18:19.13 | rafuch0 | i have gnome on my desktop computer i install some svg icon theme but i cant see the icons i think i dont have the lib that support the sbg icons noyone know what lib app package i have to install to install those icon themes? |
| 18:19.43 | abrotman | farri: i guess i'm just asking why you're going through all of that .. i'm sure there's something already in etch |
| 18:20.21 | farri | abrotman: the kernel in etch has inotify functions but it's a problem of an old libc library |
| 18:21.24 | abrotman | judd: info fam --release etch |
| 18:21.24 | judd | abrotman: fam (admin): is optional; Version: 2.7.0-12; Size: 68.9k; Installed: 260k -- File Alteration Monitor |
| 18:22.27 | dvs | Who invited Wynona? ;-) |
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| 18:23.48 | farri | abrotman: in fact, it's python-inotify which asks for a newer libc library |
| 18:24.57 | farri | abrotman: fam in etch used an old version, dnotify, which was superseded by inotify |
| 18:25.29 | rafuch0 | anyone? |
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| 18:25.45 | rafuch0 | svg support for gnome icon themes ... |
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| 18:29.02 | elcuco | i installed debina from debootstrap, now i need to configure the country (the installer usually does this for me). how to do it manually? |
| 18:29.22 | cahoot | tzselect? |
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| 18:30.01 | elcuco | cahoot: not what i am looking for. timezone is nice, but my current worries are the regulatory crap on the wireless drivers. |
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| 18:31.00 | cahoot | I doubt you can count on debian to reconf your country |
| 18:32.16 | elcuco | cahoot: well, i know that it somehow does. i am not sure why the us country is chosen on my debian install, and "il" on my fedora based linux (I do need "il") |
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| 18:32.59 | abrotman | farrlkajsdlfkjasdfasfd |
| 18:33.10 | asdf | grumbles |
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| 18:33.43 | abrotman | asdf: oh come on .. like you don't get highlighted all the time ... |
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| 18:35.06 | dvs | abrotman: your hebrew needs work. ;-) |
| 18:35.17 | abrotman | i'm sure |
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| 18:36.43 | cahoot | elcuco: something like described here? http://www.ubuntux.org/need-help-setting-up-my-wireless-radio-on-my-laptop |
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| 18:39.42 | elcuco | cahoot: i see that dist-upgrade brought a lot of goodies, maybe that helped (I saw the ucode for the card in the updates). but i will look into that link as well. thanks. |
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| 18:41.44 | asdf | abrotman: i do :) |
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| 18:41.57 | asdf | and i get a lot of test msg's too |
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| 18:42.41 | jpinx-eeepc | I am trying to allow all members of a group to read and execute files on a NTFS partition which is mounted at boot-time in fstab with option gid=106 but it is not working - any ideas |
| 18:42.51 | johaBBa | for a small email server, does spambayes replace spamassassin? or they work together? |
| 18:43.03 | jpinx-eeepc | I don't want it to be writeable, hence not using ntfs-3g |
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| 18:43.46 | jpinx-eeepc | the line in /etc/fstab is "/dev/sda1 /media/XP ntfs user,gid=106 0 0 |
| 18:44.34 | \amethyst | jpinx-eeepc: what are the permissions on the files/dirs in that fs when it's mounted? |
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| 18:45.02 | \amethyst | jpinx-eeepc: maybe you need umask=227 or 222 |
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| 18:45.58 | jpinx-eeepc | \amethyst: dr-x------ 1 root netdev |
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| 18:46.10 | phil1231231423 | hello? |
| 18:46.20 | jpinx-eeepc | \amethyst: ok - which? ;) |
| 18:46.21 | \amethyst | jpinx-eeepc: ah, that's the problem... the default umask is apparently 277, which excludes all group permissions |
| 18:46.35 | \amethyst | jpinx-eeepc: 227 would be r-xr-x---, 222 would be r-xr-xr-x |
| 18:46.50 | \amethyst | jpinx-eeepc: I'm assuming netdev is 106? |
| 18:46.53 | jpinx-eeepc | \amethyst: 222 sounds good - going to try |
| 18:47.00 | jpinx-eeepc | \amethyst: yes |
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| 18:47.47 | phil1231231423 | anybody here ever used apt-mirror?^^ need some help... |
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| 18:48.34 | jpinx-eeepc | \amethyst: that did it - thanks:) |
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| 18:49.18 | rgr | how can I remove the nm-applet from my gnome task bar in testing? There is no "remove" option. |
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| 18:49.56 | abrotman | rgr: probably under the System Preferences stuff |
| 18:49.57 | rgr | oh ok, I can just disable its startup. |
| 18:50.01 | dkr | rgr: session manager |
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| 18:51.35 | rajeshsr | does debian has ported python versions > 2.5? |
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| 18:52.36 | \amethyst | rajeshsr: python2.6 is in experimental |
| 18:52.48 | abrotman | phil1231231423: ask your real question |
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| 18:53.16 | phil1231231423 | eeehm |
| 18:53.25 | hisist | how do i debug this error msg with racoon? 2009-10-25 14:48:56: ERROR: phase2 negotiation failed due to time up waiting for phase1. ESP 10.0.2.15[0]->192.168.0.249[0] |
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| 18:53.45 | phil1231231423 | i tried to mirror a repository but apt-mirror doesn't recognise the package.bz2 |
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| 18:53.59 | phil1231231423 | it searches vor packages.gz which does not exist |
| 18:54.08 | rajeshsr | \amethyst, hmm, ok! |
| 18:54.25 | abrotman | hisist: why are you changing nicks ? |
| 18:54.56 | hisist | didnt think the older one was appropriate for this channel |
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| 18:55.00 | hisist | i will stick with this one |
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| 18:55.29 | phil1231231423 | \abrotman do you know something about apt-mirror? |
| 18:56.12 | abrotman | phil1231231423: not why it would be doing that |
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| 18:56.59 | phil1231231423 | \abrotman doesn't apt-mirror search for the package.bz2? |
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| 18:57.33 | martin__ | spricht hier wer deutsch |
| 18:57.49 | phil1231231423 | ich^^ |
| 18:58.08 | martin__ | was ist hier so los? |
| 18:58.11 | abrotman | !de |
| 18:58.12 | dpkg | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 18:58.28 | phil1231231423 | \martin__ leute die verzweifelt nach hilfe suchen komme hier her xD |
| 18:58.35 | abrotman | take it to #debian.de |
| 18:59.27 | hisist | anyone? |
| 18:59.32 | hisist | ipsec help |
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| 19:33.55 | phil1231231423 | unpf? |
| 19:34.20 | [Elvis] | guys, can someone explain to me the difference between primary and logical partition |
| 19:34.31 | phil1231231423 | yes |
| 19:34.31 | [Elvis] | I still find it hard to see the difference |
| 19:34.36 | swordz | Hi. I've been given a tar by someone on a mac, and it's full of files beginning with ._ These are just the equivalent of swp files and I'd like to get rid of them. Any idea what I could use to recurse through and do this? |
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| 19:35.52 | phil1231231423 | \[Elvis] you can make up to 4 primary partitions on your harddrive |
| 19:36.18 | phil1231231423 | \[Elvis] if you need more you have got to make one logical partition |
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| 19:36.51 | phil1231231423 | \[Elvis] in this partition you can make more partitions |
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| 19:37.32 | [Elvis] | ok phil1231231423 but why wouldn't I make / /home swap all primary? |
| 19:37.42 | [Elvis] | if I don't plan to make more then 4 parititions |
| 19:37.54 | phil1231231423 | \[Elvis] you can do so ;) |
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| 19:38.29 | [Elvis] | any disadvantages about that phil1231231423 ? |
| 19:38.51 | [Elvis] | what would swap and /home normally be phil1231231423 in the perfect setup |
| 19:39.04 | chomwitt | hi. does nfs support network browsing funtionality like samba (if i understand a samba client can scan a lan in search of smb shares) ? |
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| 19:39.26 | phil1231231423 | \[Elvis] as far as i know there are no disatvantages only for windows its importent because it only can boot from a primary partition |
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| 19:39.48 | [Elvis] | hmm k |
| 19:40.06 | phil1231231423 | \[Elvis] how do you mean "perfect setup"?xD /home should be as big as you think it should |
| 19:40.11 | [Elvis] | :p |
| 19:40.17 | phil1231231423 | :P |
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| 19:40.35 | [Elvis] | at the moment I have this setup : 100 mb for /boot , 1.5 gb for swap and the rest |
| 19:40.43 | [Elvis] | 70 gb as raid 5 with 3 discs |
| 19:41.03 | phil1231231423 | how much ram do you have? |
| 19:41.06 | [Elvis] | and on that raid5 part I used lvm to make the / partition and /vmware partition |
| 19:41.18 | [Elvis] | 5 gb phil1231231423 |
| 19:41.22 | [Elvis] | amount of ram not correct? |
| 19:41.35 | phil1231231423 | ^^ swap should be bigger i think |
| 19:41.40 | [Elvis] | to what size? |
| 19:42.02 | [Elvis] | phil1231231423 there will only be virtual machines on it |
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| 19:42.09 | [Elvis] | which will all have their own swap partition |
| 19:42.25 | [Elvis] | so isn't 1,5 gigh about enough then for a system only running the virtual machines.. |
| 19:42.26 | xhairball | hmm I wonder what the nickometer is on phil1231231423 :) |
| 19:42.31 | [Elvis] | I'm not quite sure about that |
| 19:42.34 | phil1231231423 | xD |
| 19:42.52 | phil1231231423 | i only search for a free nick.. |
| 19:43.34 | [Elvis] | phil1231231423 what are your thought on that |
| 19:44.35 | phil1231231423 | swap should be bigger than the size of your ram |
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| 19:44.54 | psibian | has anyone had success at compiling libxmi on 64bit? |
| 19:45.07 | [Elvis] | hmm |
| 19:45.12 | bcolenj | does anyone know how to make exim4 discard unroutable addresses instead of creating bounce messages? |
| 19:45.15 | [Elvis] | hm |
| 19:45.20 | [Elvis] | but how about when you have virtual machines |
| 19:45.27 | [Elvis] | which all have their own swap phil1231231423 ? |
| 19:46.16 | phil1231231423 | but the swap of the virtual machines is no real swap^^ it all gets organitzed by vmware |
| 19:46.32 | [Elvis] | hmm yes phil1231231423 |
| 19:46.49 | [Elvis] | but.... will the virtual machine (main machine) really use 5 gb of ram |
| 19:46.56 | [Elvis] | when it's only runnning other virtual machines |
| 19:47.00 | [Elvis] | that's what I wonder about |
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| 19:47.55 | phil1231231423 | mmh i dont know how many virtual machines you want to run on the machine and what this virtual machines should do |
| 19:48.37 | [Elvis] | phil1231231423 about 5 |
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| 19:49.45 | abrotman | bcolenj: tried asking #exim ? |
| 19:50.18 | thrashold | phil1231231423: Should? Any justification for that? I'm not sure if it is even useful (although I do follow it, but I never saw any real benefit from it). It's useless when we're talking about virtualmachines |
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| 19:50.53 | phil1231231423 | mhhh |
| 19:51.23 | phil1231231423 | i never got a problem allocating more swap than i got ram :) |
| 19:51.31 | bcolenj | abrotman: i just did, place seems dead |
| 19:51.49 | phil1231231423 | but on his machine hes got only 70 gb... |
| 19:51.56 | abrotman | bcolenj: give it a few minutes (it's also sunday) |
| 19:52.02 | simonrvn | 'only' |
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| 19:52.24 | phil1231231423 | xD yes ONLY!!! |
| 19:52.25 | thrashold | With only 70 GB total disk space, disk space isn't free to create big swaps "just because" |
| 19:52.49 | simonrvn | 'only' |
| 19:52.51 | phil1231231423 | Yes that's what i ment ;) |
| 19:52.57 | phil1231231423 | mmh |
| 19:53.23 | [Elvis] | isn't 10 gb of swap space not a bit ridiculous ? :P |
| 19:53.37 | thrashold | [Elvis]: Not if you have 1 TB disk space |
| 19:53.38 | phil1231231423 | xD |
| 19:53.53 | simonrvn | still silly |
| 19:53.57 | jorik | rule of thumb was a swap 2 times the size of ram |
| 19:54.17 | [Elvis] | .. |
| 19:54.23 | abrotman | that's what it used to be |
| 19:54.24 | [Elvis] | only 70 gb total phil1231231423 |
| 19:54.28 | phil1231231423 | and now?? what would you recommend? |
| 19:54.28 | simonrvn | that was in the days of tops 128 MB RAM |
| 19:54.37 | phil1231231423 | buy a bigger harddisk!! xD |
| 19:54.45 | abrotman | it depends on the workload of the system |
| 19:54.49 | [Elvis] | got 3 15.000 rpm scsi disks in it |
| 19:55.07 | thrashold | I have 18 GB swap on my desktop, but I have plenty of space. But there is absolutely no difference when I completely turn it off (i'm currently storing a backup of / on what is my swap partition) |
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| 19:55.28 | [Elvis] | abrotman what would you recommend now then?> |
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| 19:55.58 | abrotman | i have no idea what your machine will do or how much RAM you hav enow |
| 19:56.22 | [Elvis] | 5 gb of ram abrotman |
| 19:56.48 | [Elvis] | mail server , sql server, ftp server , webserver abrotman |
| 19:56.55 | phil1231231423 | you have to calculate how much the vitual machines will use |
| 19:57.00 | [Elvis] | in the form of virtual machines |
| 19:57.02 | phil1231231423 | *how much ram |
| 19:57.10 | thrashold | [Elvis]: What VM software are you using? We used to give 1 GB of swap and 256-512 MB RAM to our xens dom0's, which weren't used at all |
| 19:57.46 | [Elvis] | vmware server thrashold |
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| 19:58.30 | thrashold | I have no idea how it manages resources, so I can't tell. But I guess that the VMs would have their own swap, so the swap for the host is almost useless. |
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| 19:59.06 | [Elvis] | that's what I thought thrashold . but I don't think that's real swap |
| 19:59.10 | [Elvis] | the virtual machines use |
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| 19:59.25 | thrashold | "real swap"? |
| 19:59.41 | phil1231231423 | the swap of the machines lie on the virtual disks.. |
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| 19:59.44 | thrashold | The virtual machines create swap on their virtual disks |
| 19:59.46 | hisist | ok i figured out ipsec between 2 hosts successfully, now i want to encrypt all data from the internet comming into my network in/out |
| 19:59.51 | hisist | is there a document for this? |
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| 20:00.42 | [Elvis] | but in the end everything is ran by the top box..since it's not hardware vm |
| 20:00.43 | hisist | oh wait, if i setup all hosts on my network to communicate with ipsec essentially my lan/wlan will be protected? |
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| 20:01.12 | [Elvis] | I find this quite confusing I must say |
| 20:01.12 | [Elvis] | :P |
| 20:01.19 | phil1231231423 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:01.52 | phil1231231423 | how much users will you serve with your server? |
| 20:01.52 | [Elvis] | glad I'm not the only one phil1231231423 |
| 20:01.55 | thrashold | [Elvis]: The swap on the host plays no role |
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| 20:02.07 | [Elvis] | that's what I thought thrashold |
| 20:02.15 | [Elvis] | so why give it 2 times the amount of ram.. |
| 20:02.16 | [Elvis] | :P |
| 20:02.21 | zik | hello to all peaple |
| 20:02.32 | [Elvis] | phil1231231423: 1 virtual machine to run ftp server, 1 for webserver 1 , for email |
| 20:02.38 | [Elvis] | in total 5 or 6 servers |
| 20:02.40 | zik | can i have some help? |
| 20:02.42 | [Elvis] | all used by myself |
| 20:02.45 | phil1231231423 | mmh |
| 20:03.03 | phil1231231423 | then you dont have to give a damn! |
| 20:03.04 | thrashold | [Elvis]: You can create several swap partitions and give them to the virtual machines as swap disks :D |
| 20:03.08 | zik | i apologize first for my english |
| 20:03.14 | abrotman | or use swap files |
| 20:03.15 | thrashold | [Elvis]: Although that is useless complication |
| 20:03.24 | phil1231231423 | only one user per machine!!! |
| 20:03.24 | phil1231231423 | ftp,mail,and web!!! |
| 20:03.55 | zik | i have 3 questions |
| 20:04.08 | [Elvis] | phil1231231423 :p |
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| 20:04.31 | zik | it's the first time that i compile a kernel |
| 20:04.38 | [Elvis] | so thrashold what would you do?: |
| 20:04.39 | phil1231231423 | \[Elvis] as the only user you will never ever make the server use 5gb of ram! so.... |
| 20:04.51 | zik | i want to install kernel 2.6.31 in my lennybox |
| 20:04.55 | [Elvis] | phil1231231423 |
| 20:04.56 | abrotman | zik: why are you compiling a kernel? |
| 20:04.57 | [Elvis] | didn't sayt that |
| 20:05.01 | [Elvis] | hosts 200 websites |
| 20:05.04 | [Elvis] | with databases |
| 20:05.08 | abrotman | !enter |
| 20:05.08 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
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| 20:05.15 | zik | my problem is for wireless |
| 20:05.24 | abrotman | zik: which wireless ? |
| 20:05.29 | [Elvis] | and email for aprox 200 or 300 users. with virus chechking etc |
| 20:05.30 | zik | i have usb digicom wifi |
| 20:05.34 | [Elvis] | sorry for using enter so often btw |
| 20:05.38 | zik | wave 54 |
| 20:05.40 | phil1231231423 | \[Elvis] ok ...^^ is misunderstod... sry |
| 20:05.46 | abrotman | zik: do you know which chipset ? |
| 20:05.47 | zik | i explane my problem |
| 20:05.54 | zik | zydas |
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| 20:06.04 | abrotman | you don't need a .31 for that i dont' think |
| 20:06.10 | thrashold | A question: My root filesystem is 3x19 GB RAID 5. I used Gentoo before which tool almost all space, but with Debian most is free. Should I switch to 3-disk RAID-1? This way I could enable write cache because write barriers work for MD RAID-1 (it seems) |
| 20:06.31 | abrotman | !tell zik about zd1211rw |
| 20:06.53 | zik | so with chipset zydas i can't work in ad-hoc mode |
| 20:06.55 | pipeline | thrashold: use 2-disk RAID-1, the 3rd disk offers no advantage |
| 20:06.57 | [Elvis] | so thrashold you would say 2 gb of swap for the main machine or? |
| 20:07.06 | zik | but with the same i can with ubuntu server |
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| 20:07.14 | pipeline | thrashold: incidentally, LVM makes write barriers not work anyway. |
| 20:07.19 | thrashold | pipeline: And leave the third disk unused? Also wouldn't I get faster concurrent reads? |
| 20:07.24 | pipeline | thrashold: not significantly, no |
| 20:07.26 | thrashold | I don't use LVM |
| 20:07.42 | zik | when i put the key in the pc the dmesg output is the in debian server and ubuntu server |
| 20:08.07 | zik | some blog say that is a problem of the default kernel |
| 20:08.22 | zik | and is this the reason |
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| 20:08.55 | zik | yes abrotman zd1211rw |
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| 20:09.47 | thrashold | pipeline: Whether I would use the third partition doesn't matter, as there would be no use for it if it's outside of the RAID. So the question is whether to use RAID-1 or no :) |
| 20:10.27 | zik | abrotman can i have help from you? |
| 20:10.45 | thrashold | I use ZFS-FUSE for /home, and it is claimed that it works fine with write cache enabled (I'd research if it does, it's not related to the question :) ) |
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| 20:12.25 | abrotman | zik: the bot says you just install the firmware |
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| 20:13.13 | redDEADresolve | is kernel mode setting turned on by default in debian testing? |
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| 20:14.26 | simonrvn | redDEADresolve: you asked that yesterday. wth do you mean by that? |
| 20:14.39 | themill | !kms |
| 20:14.39 | dpkg | [kms] Kernel modesetting, where the initialization of graphical modes is performed by the kernel instead of X. It is hardware dependent. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting |
| 20:15.06 | zik | so i explane the problem: |
| 20:15.07 | zik | chipset zydas module zd1211rw, driver correctly installed, firmware installed found in official repository |
| 20:15.07 | zik | when i make this comands i can't: |
| 20:15.07 | zik | if wlan0 is up and i put iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc i obtain this: |
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| 20:15.14 | simonrvn | oh yeh. now i remember... hoxu mentioned it about 2 weeks ago. |
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| 20:15.25 | paxcoder | abrotman: i guess : doesn't cut it. |
| 20:15.33 | simonrvn | 'explane'? :) |
| 20:15.38 | abrotman | paxcoder: what? |
| 20:15.54 | paxcoder | abrotman: the enter factoid. |
| 20:16.03 | abrotman | anyways ... |
| 20:16.12 | paxcoder | !enter | grep : |
| 20:16.29 | abrotman | right .. carry on |
| 20:16.34 | themill | paxcoder: read more carefully.... |
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| 20:16.55 | paxcoder | themill: "or ':' instead." |
| 20:17.15 | simonrvn | !enter |
| 20:17.15 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 20:17.17 | paxcoder | themill: oh, like prolonging the line. :-D |
| 20:17.28 | redDEADresolve | simonrvn, Currently, most graphics modes are initialized during the X server startup. Kernel Modesetting (referred to as KMS hereafter) moves this process from the X server's DDX drivers to the kernel, and it enables several new features including: Improved Graphical Boot, Faster fast user switching, Seamless X server switching and Graphical panic messages. |
| 20:17.50 | simonrvn | redDEADresolve: c&p from thw wiki page ;p |
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| 20:17.57 | simonrvn | the* |
| 20:18.06 | themill | redDEADresolve: see also http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/10/msg00003.html |
| 20:18.16 | redDEADresolve | simonrvn, yes. it expains it better than i could |
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| 20:19.10 | travbus01 | hi all, have a Debian Etch router/gateway 2.6.18-5, with Grub v 0.97 that i have not run for 292 days and i have not only forgotten the passwds but the usrs also, but am sitting at a console with said machine. what is easiest way to get back in? |
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| 20:20.07 | redDEADresolve | themill, thanks for the link. It's built into debian testing but I have to configure it. Do you have a good link to properly enable it with intel/nvidia cards |
| 20:20.11 | zik | abrotman i'm here |
| 20:20.11 | mjt | hm. I've an.. interesting prob here. Since I've got some.. 3d working finally (radeon) I descided to try various old games, like UT2004, Doom3 and other like that. But no single game works - the prob is absolutely insane mouse. Ie, just touch the mouse, and the cursor jumps off the screen, or the game character turns 36000°, but only to one side, not to another. Google does not show anything interesting... |
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| 20:20.32 | abrotman | and no one saw what you said because you got booted |
| 20:20.41 | themill | redDEADresolve: I know nothing more about it than that. It's very much a work in progress |
| 20:20.44 | Posterdati | hi |
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| 20:20.53 | zik | so kernel installed 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 20:21.10 | redDEADresolve | themill, yeah not much on google. I wanted to test it on my netbook. |
| 20:21.18 | zik | module correctly charged |
| 20:21.21 | zik | zd1211rw |
| 20:21.31 | Posterdati | please I got an ndas connected to my lan, I ran autofs to mount it under /mnt/ndas, how can I access it via kde desktop icon? |
| 20:21.35 | zik | firmwrae correctly installed |
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| 20:21.59 | zik | wifi usb work correctly in managed mode |
| 20:22.18 | zik | but i can't set in ad-hoc mode |
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| 20:22.20 | docmax_ | hello, which packet do i have to install to get the mail command and my mailbox under /home/user/mail ?? |
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| 20:23.19 | jpinx-eeepc | docmax_: there are various - try aptitude search mail# |
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| 20:26.11 | phil1231231423 | test |
| 20:26.51 | zik | dpkg i reade your link |
| 20:26.52 | dpkg | wish i knew, zik |
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| 20:27.06 | zik | before |
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| 20:27.27 | abrotman | zik: not all drivers support ad-hoc |
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| 20:27.49 | zik | my problem is that when the interface is up and i put iwconfig wlan0 mode ad-hoc |
| 20:27.51 | travbus01 | posted before about no access to sys, remembered usr, how can i change the root passwd as a usr with sudo privs? |
| 20:28.03 | redDEADresolve | themill, any idea on how to add parameter on the kernel command line. thats the only part im missing to enable KMS |
| 20:28.06 | zik | i obtain Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) : |
| 20:28.06 | zik | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:28.23 | zik | if interface is down command work |
| 20:28.51 | zik | but i can't then turn the interface up |
| 20:29.13 | zik | with ubuntu server the same command work fine |
| 20:29.33 | zik | and the dmesg log when put the key in pc is the same |
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| 20:29.58 | zik | so ubu server and deb server charge same modules |
| 20:30.00 | themill | redDEADresolve: I only know what's on the debian wiki page that dpkg mentioned earlier |
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| 20:30.59 | redDEADresolve | themill, no worries. |
| 20:31.04 | zik | isn't some bug whit firmware version in debian repository? |
| 20:31.40 | zik | somebody had my same problem? |
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| 20:32.47 | redDEADresolve | zik, what kind of card do you have? |
| 20:32.48 | zik | themill thanks also |
| 20:32.50 | starenka_ | OT: is there a kde (3) counterpart of gnome libnotify? |
| 20:33.05 | zik | digicom wave 54 |
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| 20:34.31 | dberube | has anyone been able to successfully install Adobe AIR 1.5.2 on Squeeze amd64? I'm getting an error loading libnss3.so: wrong ELF class |
| 20:35.02 | spldart | Ok... I have to ask cuz I've read articles both ways... including stuff on debians own site... are they leaving linux kernels for freebsd kernels? |
| 20:35.21 | paxcoder | lol that'd be cool |
| 20:36.18 | simonrvn | dberube: it's 32 bit ... |
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| 20:37.03 | spldart | I am referring to |
| 20:37.05 | simonrvn | besides, it's crap. even when you 'install' it on 32b, it exits 1, doing nothing. |
| 20:37.15 | spldart | squeeeze btw |
| 20:37.38 | dberube | simonrvn, I know was just hoping to force it to run, I found the ia32-libs and resolved a few errors but I just can't seem to get past this one |
| 20:37.59 | spldart | (sorry, I'm typing on my eee 900, debian lenny, and need to readjust to the keyboard size. |
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| 20:40.35 | xsdg | dberube: is it a 32-bit app? you may need to compile a 32-bit version of libnss |
| 20:40.44 | paxcoder | spldart: read this: http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdotLinux/~3/EOIQ83nKzuM/Debian-Elevates-KFreeBSD-Port-to-First-Class-Status |
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| 20:41.13 | paxcoder | spldart: does that help? |
| 20:41.21 | abrotman | spldart: they're adding |
| 20:41.43 | hosu | What's a decent DVD ripping/encoding program? |
| 20:42.02 | hosu | I need to have an exact iso copy and a 720p encoding |
| 20:42.09 | dberube | xsdg: it is a 32-bit app, figured I try finding a 32-bit package before compiling libnss3 |
| 20:42.39 | xsdg | dberube: I've got an ia32-libs-libnss3 package |
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| 20:43.42 | abrotman | hosu: apt-cache search dvd rip |
| 20:44.13 | dberube | xsdg: do you have a link to download that package or compile the 32 bit version by any chance? |
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| 20:44.54 | xsdg | so what's-his-name who maintains mplayer |
| 20:45.26 | xsdg | !tell dberube about debian-multimedia |
| 20:45.41 | hosu | abrotman: I'm asking what a good one is though, I don't know which one can rip/encode to 720p for example |
| 20:46.28 | dberube | thanks xsdg |
| 20:47.02 | mjt | I've an.. interesting prob here. Since I've got some.. 3d working finally (radeon) I descided to try various old games, like UT2004, Doom3 and other like that. But no single game works - the prob is absolutely insane mouse. Ie, just touch the mouse, and the cursor jumps off the screen, or the game character turns 36000°, but only to one side, not to another. Google does not show anything interesting... Any hints? |
| 20:47.04 | spldart | Ok... will there be a nice 2.8.3x-x86 and a x86 bsd kernel both available to me on the next relelase? |
| 20:48.06 | xsdg | dberube: np |
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| 20:48.20 | abrotman | hosu: i only see one |
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| 20:49.43 | nsadmin_ | spldart maybe |
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| 20:50.08 | nsadmin_ | wait, no |
| 20:50.13 | nsadmin_ | 2.8? |
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| 20:52.49 | nsadmin_ | mjt: no hint, since you haven't said anything about what your mouse is |
| 20:53.47 | mjt | it does not depend on the mouse. Ive tried 3 different mouses :) |
| 20:53.48 | spldart | sorry... |
| 20:53.53 | spldart | 2.6.3x |
| 20:54.02 | nsadmin_ | spldart maybe |
| 20:54.41 | nsadmin_ | mjt: does the mouse work normally when you're not playing a game? |
| 20:55.12 | spldart | One of my 'ex's' daughters, former step daughter is heading to the emergency room as of several minutes ago.. I'm distracted. I wouldn't have asked the original question if I had known this was gonna happen obviously. |
| 20:55.25 | mjt | nsadmin_: yes. only in ut/doom3 it's crazy |
| 20:55.44 | nsadmin_ | spldart sorry to hear that |
| 20:56.21 | spldart | nsadwin_ > I'm sure it will be fine. /me is hoping for the best ;) |
| 20:56.27 | mjt | i've found this: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13478 -- which is pretty much my sutiation. Except in my case, switching from evdev to mouse driver makes no difference, And i've latest xorg from sid. |
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| 20:58.58 | nsadmin_ | spldart: if you;'re close by you might want to wander over there |
| 20:59.12 | spldart | 1300 miles away |
| 20:59.28 | spldart | I'm standing by a phone |
| 20:59.49 | spldart | I have kids depending on me here too. |
| 20:59.53 | simonrvn | spldart: hope it turns out ok |
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| 21:00.05 | spldart | thanks |
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| 21:00.57 | spldart | heh.... Your in #debian mrdudle |
| 21:01.08 | spldart | hehe... your in #debian mrdudle |
| 21:01.18 | spldart | ah |
| 21:01.21 | spldart | there I go |
| 21:01.22 | spldart | lag |
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| 21:03.37 | nsadmin_ | mjt so,,,, what was the process when you switched away from evdev? |
| 21:04.05 | spldart | Btw ;) Every child I've had an influence on has been on a dual boot... :) XP pro and Debian since sarge was stable :~D |
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| 21:05.38 | LuciusMare | gello |
| 21:05.40 | LuciusMare | hello |
| 21:05.45 | nsadmin_ | stello |
| 21:05.52 | spldart | smello |
| 21:05.54 | LuciusMare | jell |
| 21:06.01 | nsadmin_ | o |
| 21:06.07 | LuciusMare | o_o |
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| 21:06.36 | spldart | o_O |
| 21:06.42 | LuciusMare | hello,how can i set so that when people want to turn computer off in console,they dont have to be root?Please,its urgent! |
| 21:06.53 | LuciusMare | spldart: X_o |
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| 21:07.29 | jcm | hi, on two of my boxes, aptitude doesn't automatically propose to upgrade kernel to 2.6.26-19lenny1, though sources includes security. Is there some tuning to have it so? |
| 21:07.37 | LuciusMare | hey |
| 21:07.42 | LuciusMare | how can i set it? |
| 21:07.47 | jcm | LuciusMare: configure sudoers ? |
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| 21:08.29 | LuciusMare | jcm: oh |
| 21:08.31 | spldart | sudo make me a sammich |
| 21:08.43 | LuciusMare | jcm: i tried that,but i couldnt find it |
| 21:08.54 | LuciusMare | only PASSWD and NOPASSWD,not just ALLOW and DISALLOW |
| 21:09.15 | LuciusMare | or maybe setting suid to the shutdown would do the trick? |
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| 21:09.32 | mjt | nsadmin_: what was the process? How so? |
| 21:09.48 | jcm | why do you want a simple user to shutdown your box? |
| 21:10.07 | nsadmin_ | mjt what were the steps? |
| 21:10.52 | nsadmin_ | hold that thought tho, brb |
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| 21:11.00 | mjt | nsadmin_: are you asking because you're curious or because you know the answer to the issue? |
| 21:11.45 | LuciusMare | jcm: i am connecting to a remote box,and i want to shut it down after work,and since i will work under monitored network,i do not want them to have access over my machine - i do not work under anybody that can sudo |
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| 21:12.50 | LuciusMare | so,how to do that? |
| 21:12.56 | jcm | LuciusMare: then configure the SysRq keys ;-) |
| 21:13.00 | LuciusMare | what? |
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| 21:13.30 | mjt | setuid shutdown? |
| 21:13.43 | LuciusMare | mjt: i said so,but isnt it dangerous? |
| 21:13.45 | mjt | (in a separate directory accessible only to the user in question) |
| 21:13.47 | simonrvn | um, sysreq doesn't work remote, i don't think (could be wrong) |
| 21:13.57 | mjt | simonrvn: it doesn't |
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| 21:14.50 | LuciusMare | mjt: otherwise,how could it be dangerous? |
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| 21:16.18 | LuciusMare | i cant think off a way that this could be dangerous to the system |
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| 21:18.03 | nsadmin_ | mjt: I'm asking to see if there was something in the steps you performed in order to switch away from evdev that could either contribute to the problem or not be complete |
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| 21:21.11 | amartin | hello everybody |
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| 21:22.30 | LuciusMare | for example,if i would have group shutdown that could only use shutdown and halt,i would add this into sudoers? shutdown ALL=/sbin/shutdown,/sbin/halt ? |
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| 21:23.27 | amartin | does anyone know how to how to connect in CLI through usb huawei mobile modem to internet?? |
| 21:25.26 | mjt | nsadmin_: AutoAddDevices to off and added the mouse section as it were for past ~7 years... ;) |
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| 21:26.08 | mjt | Section InputDevice driver mouse /dev/input/mice -- liie that. |
| 21:26.11 | mjt | like |
| 21:27.08 | nsadmin_ | ok, so that's editing the file |
| 21:27.21 | mjt | sure, there's no other way |
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| 21:27.37 | nsadmin_ | so did you restart anything? |
| 21:27.46 | mjt | anything like? |
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| 21:28.02 | mjt | sure thing i restarted x, and restarted games. |
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| 21:28.19 | mjt | in order to load dirferent driver |
| 21:28.23 | mjt | different even |
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| 21:28.33 | mjt | and yes, it's in Xorg.log |
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| 21:28.53 | nsadmin_ | ok, that does look complete... |
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| 21:29.05 | piko | Hello, I am unable to use packages.debian.org, could anyone try and verify if it is not down? |
| 21:29.27 | nsadmin_ | and are you running evdev now? or the other driver (which is what)? |
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| 21:29.36 | mjt | the other is mouse |
| 21:29.38 | piko | Not only view the page but also search |
| 21:29.41 | mjt | piko: works for me |
| 21:29.49 | piko | mjt: also searching? |
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| 21:30.11 | mjt | piko: yes searching too |
| 21:30.11 | abrotman | which search? |
| 21:30.53 | mjt | nsadmin_: as i mentioned, there's no difference in games. Running evdev now, because it works with extra mouse keys, unlike the mouse driver. |
| 21:30.53 | piko | abrotman: search vof aufs in names of packages in whatever distribution |
| 21:31.07 | abrotman | vof aufs ? |
| 21:31.13 | abrotman | for files ? |
| 21:31.17 | piko | abrotman: sorry, that wohuld be of |
| 21:31.20 | nsadmin_ | piko: let's start over... what exactly are you trying to do, what steps (exactly) are you using to get there, what result do you expect, what result are you getting? |
| 21:31.21 | piko | abrotman: not packages |
| 21:31.42 | mjt | whee. |
| 21:33.14 | nsadmin_ | mjt: damn... :) it does look like you're doing everything right, other than using evdev |
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| 21:34.04 | mjt | tried also different libSDL and different x server versions (xserver-xorg-core) |
| 21:34.26 | piko | nsadmin_: hoped that is clear, I tried to search all packages whose name contained aufs so I opened page packages.debian.org, selected package search, selected only in names, and distribution any. Then I clicked search and stayed calm untill nothing happened. After nothing happened, I tried also search in contents of packages and the same thing happened. So I said to myself that there may be something wrong and came here. |
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| 21:35.15 | mjt | piko: what's the MTU on your network interface? :) |
| 21:35.31 | piko | mtl: I suppose 1500 as usual |
| 21:35.32 | mjt | kidding really |
| 21:35.38 | piko | mjt: I see |
| 21:35.44 | mjt | because the main search page is larger than that anyway |
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| 21:36.25 | piko | mjt: yes, may be, I believe in using TCP (this is not on UDP, is it?) |
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| 21:36.31 | mjt | it immediately smells like classical PMTUD problem, if the main page were not large and if debian servers were not known to have working pmtud. |
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| 21:36.58 | piko | mjt: what is pmtud? |
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| 21:37.29 | mjt | piko: google |
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| 21:37.38 | mjt | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Path_MTU_discovery |
| 21:37.43 | piko | mjt: google alias? Well, that is powerfull, but thanks |
| 21:38.01 | nsadmin_ | piko: that search worked for me |
| 21:38.21 | nsadmin_ | brb |
| 21:39.50 | piko | nsadmin: so mjt is perhaps right, it is on my side |
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| 21:40.15 | cr3rzemjest | how do i do the following thing: when there is no net connection, a script is executed which contains [among other things] 'dhpcd eth0' |
| 21:40.21 | piko | mjt, nsadmin thanks, I will try to solve it somehow |
| 21:41.48 | piko | Anyway, my problem is that I need to compile kernel with aufs module. The thing is that I need at least 2.6.30 on lenny and I am not sure where to get appropriate aufs source for 2.6.30 |
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| 21:41.58 | piko | Or what can be the best way |
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| 21:42.34 | yetifoot | piko, you sure you can't do aufs with an earlier kernel? i've used aufs on boot cds for lenny just fine |
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| 21:44.11 | piko | yetifoot: I can use it, my problem is that I need to make other machines use it too during automatic installation and I can make them install other than 2.6.26 kernel but not only other version of the same package, so I thought about using another version of kernel (so another package name) |
| 21:44.32 | yetifoot | ah, ok |
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| 21:45.40 | yetifoot | piko, did you try installing and compiling the aufs-source package? |
| 21:46.50 | yetifoot | if i were using 2.6.30, i'd expect to just have to install that package, then m-a a-i it |
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| 21:47.40 | kury- | how do I tell what modules are available on my system? (not just the loaded modules listed in lsmod) |
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| 21:48.24 | yetifoot | kury, i don't know the 'correct' way. but i'd look in /lib/modules/$KERNEL/ |
| 21:48.28 | hark | kury-: modprobe -l |
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| 21:48.43 | garo | Is it possible to install debian with a ubuntu cd ? ( the debian cd doesn't recognize my networkcard ) |
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| 21:49.00 | abrotman | debootstrap |
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| 21:49.02 | abrotman | erm |
| 21:49.04 | abrotman | !debootstrap |
| 21:49.04 | dpkg | debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a UNIX/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>. http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap, or http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Installing_new_Debian_systems_with_debootstrap |
| 21:49.46 | garo | Are this docs still up to date ? (I am going to install lenny) |
| 21:50.09 | garo | s/this/these/ |
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| 21:52.58 | doomster | is there a way to find packages that are installed but can't be downloaded any more? |
| 21:53.07 | piko | sorry for delay, yes, you are right, my probem is that I need some backport to lenny from ... ?testing so I can not do m-a a-i aufs, or another thign is that I need a debian package that can be distributed during automatic installation, so make-kpkg would be nice. |
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| 21:55.22 | hark | doomster: aptitude search ~o |
| 21:55.27 | kury- | hark, thanks... learn something new everyday. |
| 21:55.37 | hark | np |
| 21:55.47 | kury- | how/where can I get the alim7101_wdt driver module on deb? |
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| 21:56.53 | johnfg | mc |
| 21:57.21 | hark | kury-: should already be there in the kernel |
| 21:57.43 | hark | !find alim7101_wdt lenny |
| 21:57.55 | johnfg | hey guys |
| 21:58.47 | kury- | hark, I get nothing from modprobe -l |grep alim7 |
| 21:58.50 | johnfg | Is there a way to scroll back in a terminal? when running screen? |
| 21:58.51 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'alim7101_wdt' (3 of 8): (/lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/watchdog/alim7101_wdt.ko) in admin/linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.26-2-486/kernel/drivers/watchdog/alim7101_wdt.ko) in admin/linux-image-2.6.26-2-486 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.26-2-amd64/kernel/drivers/watchdog/alim7101_wdt.ko) in admin/linux-image-2.6.26-2-amd64. |
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| 21:58.57 | cr3rzemjest | how do i turn my laptop off/suspend after download? i thought about a script (if file size=100% -> poweroff , also sleep 4h; poweroff) but i dunno if there is a better way to do it |
| 21:59.17 | kury- | hark, I get 1 result if I grep for alim but its my IDE driver |
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| 21:59.57 | hark | johnfg: ^a esc |
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| 22:00.17 | hark | johnfg: you then enter copy/scrollback mode |
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| 22:01.15 | johnfg | hark: So, how do you scroll back after entering that mode? |
| 22:01.25 | doomster | hark: Thank you! |
| 22:02.15 | hark | johnfg: pgup? up arrow? |
| 22:02.31 | hark | doomster: what did i do? |
| 22:02.46 | hark | doomster: oh, nm :) |
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| 22:04.27 | johnfg | hark: Thanks! |
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| 22:07.17 | cr3rzemjest | meh |
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| 22:07.27 | anoobisa | Hi I need some help to partition a software Raid 1 via command line |
| 22:07.45 | anoobisa | I want to shrink a partition adn use it for lvm |
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| 22:07.55 | cr3rzemjest | i'm downloading as root, using axel coz i don't have time to write stuff in sudoers to be able to poweroff after download |
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| 22:08.35 | anoobisa | what is the best tool to use there? |
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| 22:08.51 | anoobisa | fdisk? or parted? |
| 22:08.52 | [Jasper] | guys, how can I select which version of java debian should use |
| 22:08.55 | [Jasper] | I forgot the command |
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| 22:09.29 | anoobisa | Jasper update-alternatives --config java |
| 22:09.47 | anoobisa | I think |
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| 22:10.04 | LtL | or update-java-alternatives |
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| 22:12.05 | anoobisa | Anyone, help with resizing a partion on software raid 1 |
| 22:12.16 | anoobisa | what tools should i use for that |
| 22:12.24 | abrotman | which filesystem ? |
| 22:13.00 | anoobisa | abrotman i think it is ext3 |
| 22:13.04 | anoobisa | how can i check |
| 22:13.20 | abrotman | /etc/fstab |
| 22:13.47 | anoobisa | thats a bit hard cause I am on a rescue system accessing a root server |
| 22:14.04 | abrotman | fdisk -l .. maybe |
| 22:14.57 | anoobisa | nope checked there already, it just gives me all the partitions and its sizes |
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| 22:16.07 | LtL | anoobisa: dmesg |grep fs should say |
| 22:16.39 | kury- | hark any ideas where to get such a module in debian? |
| 22:16.41 | anoobisa | Ltd |
| 22:16.48 | anoobisa | that is only the rescue system |
| 22:16.54 | anoobisa | http://pastebin.com/m3d907bef |
| 22:16.59 | anoobisa | fdisk -l |
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| 22:17.02 | anoobisa | output |
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| 22:17.58 | hark | kury-: which one do you need exactly? |
| 22:18.19 | abrotman | anoobisa: looks like software raid paritions ? |
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| 22:18.58 | anoobisa | abrotman when you looked above is specifically said "I want to resize a software raid 1" :) |
| 22:19.12 | abrotman | yeah, i thought you had them mounted |
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| 22:19.29 | anoobisa | nah |
| 22:20.08 | anoobisa | So how would I partition the /dev/sdb3 |
| 22:20.36 | kury- | hark, module alim7101_wdt |
| 22:21.28 | hark | what does uname -r say? |
| 22:21.32 | fredl | anoobisa - man mdadm |
| 22:22.24 | kury- | hark, Linux sun1 2.6.26-2-sparc64 #1 Mon Oct 19 02:28:19 UTC 2009 sparc64 GNU/Linux |
| 22:22.29 | anoobisa | alright thanks fredl I look into that |
| 22:22.32 | fredl | anoobisa, with mdadm you can grow/shrink the mdraid's |
| 22:22.55 | anoobisa | ok but what I want to do basically is create free space to create a lvm partition |
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| 22:23.40 | hark | kury-: and it's not there in the modprobe -l output? |
| 22:24.00 | fredl | well with mdadm you can grow/shrink the mdraid, essentially that would free space on your partitions. shrinking your physical partitions after that would be uh hairy... |
| 22:24.39 | kury- | hark, nope :( |
| 22:24.50 | fredl | looks confused though... you already have an mdraid partition, why don't you create your new lvm volume in it? is it full or what? |
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| 22:25.29 | anoobisa | nope its not full |
| 22:25.44 | anoobisa | ok maybe I am not quite getting it! |
| 22:25.52 | fredl | well then create your new lvm inside the mdraid? |
| 22:26.02 | fredl | mdraid sits under your lvm |
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| 22:27.04 | anoobisa | I could create a physical volume within /dev/sdb3? |
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| 22:27.32 | empty_ | Hello, what to do on an grub error 15? Installed true a usb-stick, and after finish I rebooted and get error 15 direct.. |
| 22:27.37 | fredl | uhh why would you want to do that? /dev/sdb3 is part of your mdraid already? |
| 22:27.47 | anoobisa | ok |
| 22:27.57 | fredl | create a physical volume in md0 |
| 22:28.00 | comps | sidenote to anyone trying to resize such setup: FS <-> lvresize <-> pvresize <-> mdadm resize <-> partition resize |
| 22:28.25 | anoobisa | yes but /dev/sdb3 takes all the space of the 750 gig |
| 22:28.28 | anoobisa | there is not free space |
| 22:28.33 | comps | forgot vgresize |
| 22:28.46 | fredl | anoobisa> nope its not full |
| 22:28.55 | fredl | anoobisa> there is not free space |
| 22:29.01 | fredl | make up your mind. |
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| 22:29.18 | anoobisa | did you see my my fdisk -l |
| 22:29.29 | fredl | you can treat md0 as if it were sda3 |
| 22:29.44 | anoobisa | ok |
| 22:29.47 | fredl | you probably already have if you've created a physical volume already |
| 22:29.47 | hark | kury-: hmm, it looks like it's not in the sparc kernel then |
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| 22:30.06 | fredl | inside the physical volume you can create logical volumes. |
| 22:30.58 | nsadmin | well you first add the pv to a vg |
| 22:31.14 | abrotman | anoobisa: you have a backup of your data, right? |
| 22:31.36 | nsadmin | a backup of all storage |
| 22:31.58 | nsadmin | if not you're taking a large risk |
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| 22:32.25 | anoobisa | nsadmin there is not backup :) I am just trying to figure this out. |
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| 22:32.53 | kury- | hark, do you know if there is a debian howto on recompiling the kernel then so I can add it? |
| 22:32.53 | nsadmin | anoobisa: how much data do you have stored? how much of that do you care about? |
| 22:32.58 | abrotman | anoobisa: if you value this data, you really shoudl back it up first |
| 22:33.04 | abrotman | !tell kury- about kp mantra |
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| 22:33.14 | kury- | hark or is it maybe in the kernel and not a module? |
| 22:33.17 | anoobisa | abrotman I don't care about the data right now |
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| 22:33.32 | abrotman | okay |
| 22:34.09 | fredl | you might want to try a vgscan/pvscan/lvscan |
| 22:34.16 | hark | kury-: grep -i alim /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
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| 22:34.25 | anoobisa | there is nothing on it except some xen vms at the moment |
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| 22:34.47 | anoobisa | is lvm on top of an ext3 partition or does it require its own partiton |
| 22:35.04 | nsadmin | anoobisa: ok... just to make sure... if some disaster took it all, erased or damaged your storage... you'd: jump up and down, shake a fist at your hds, get fired from your job, none of the above? |
| 22:35.18 | fredl | lvm sits on top of *storage* |
| 22:35.40 | fredl | storage may be in the form of a traditional partition or an mdraid'ed 'partition' |
| 22:35.46 | anoobisa | nsadmin its my own personal root server |
| 22:35.59 | anoobisa | don't worry |
| 22:36.13 | nsadmin | ok,,, I'm convinced |
| 22:36.18 | fredl | anoobisa - try a vgscan ok? |
| 22:36.42 | anoobisa | fredl I am in the rescue system at the moment |
| 22:36.52 | fredl | yes, and? |
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| 22:39.13 | fredl | did you do a vgscan? |
| 22:39.32 | anoobisa | yes |
| 22:39.51 | fredl | did it give any output like 'Found volume group ...' ? |
| 22:39.54 | anoobisa | nope |
| 22:39.59 | themill | SirTopHat: please don't add useless factoids to dpkg, much less ones that could be construed as malicious. |
| 22:39.59 | anoobisa | there is no lvm on it |
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| 22:40.07 | fredl | aha. |
| 22:40.12 | anoobisa | DUDE |
| 22:40.13 | SirTopHat | k |
| 22:40.27 | SirTopHat | I saw other useless factoids there |
| 22:40.30 | SirTopHat | also |
| 22:40.33 | fredl | so what IS in md0 then? |
| 22:40.38 | fredl | any filesystem? |
| 22:40.51 | abrotman | SirTopHat: that doesn't mean you should add more junk |
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| 22:40.58 | themill | SirTopHat: yeah, it takes us enough time to get rid of the ones that are already there without you making more |
| 22:41.03 | anoobisa | I have a software raid, on top of that there are three partitions sdb1-3 |
| 22:41.08 | SirTopHat | lol |
| 22:41.28 | abrotman | it's not funny |
| 22:41.30 | anoobisa | sdb1=4 Gig sdb2=1Gig swap sdb3=the rest |
| 22:41.33 | SirTopHat | "hackers" "war games" and "booger" are a few |
| 22:41.36 | fredl | anoobisa - no you're not getting it right, the three partitions sdb1-3 are IN your mdraid |
| 22:41.44 | SirTopHat | that I've seen |
| 22:42.07 | abrotman | just don't add more useless stuff |
| 22:42.17 | SirTopHat | I was trying to help, right there |
| 22:42.19 | fredl | anoobisa - are you familiar with what mdraid ? |
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| 22:42.22 | fredl | is. |
| 22:42.34 | anoobisa | fredl no that is why I am here |
| 22:42.48 | abrotman | thinks someone isn't reading ... |
| 22:43.39 | anoobisa | if you wold explain better I could understand |
| 22:44.07 | fredl | ok.... do you know what the acronym RAID means? |
| 22:44.38 | fredl | the A and the D are giveaways... Array of Disks |
| 22:44.45 | anoobisa | I have a software raid 1 2 disk with 750 gig |
| 22:44.48 | fredl | your sda and sbd are disks. |
| 22:45.07 | cusco_ | hi |
| 22:45.08 | anoobisa | yes indeed |
| 22:45.10 | fredl | a RAID of those disks could involved those disks. |
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| 22:45.20 | cusco_ | if I need a streaming server what do you advise |
| 22:45.31 | abrotman | to stream what ? icecast? |
| 22:45.40 | anoobisa | icecast or shoutcast |
| 22:45.43 | cusco_ | like, having a webcam/and/or/video always streaming |
| 22:45.47 | cusco_ | not for sound |
| 22:45.48 | cusco_ | for video |
| 22:46.02 | cusco_ | stream onto a website |
| 22:46.06 | fredl | anoobisa, what you see in your fdisk -l is that you have three 'raid devices' |
| 22:46.15 | anoobisa | yes |
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| 22:46.18 | fredl | anoobisa, they're called md0, md1 and md2 |
| 22:46.20 | anoobisa | m0-2 |
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| 22:46.29 | Testament | hi |
| 22:46.29 | anoobisa | md0-2 |
| 22:46.33 | anoobisa | yes |
| 22:46.43 | azeem | cusco_: flumotion mayber |
| 22:46.46 | anoobisa | on top of that sits ext3 |
| 22:47.03 | fredl | right now, yes, I think |
| 22:47.12 | anoobisa | yes I am quite sure |
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| 22:47.46 | fredl | okay, so the whole md0 is used up by an ext3 filesystem? |
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| 22:48.35 | cusco_ | I will give it a try azeem. thanks |
| 22:48.40 | fredl | and you want to shrink that filesystem and in the space that's freed up you want to make a logical volume? |
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| 22:49.05 | anoobisa | it is md2 we are talking about |
| 22:49.20 | anoobisa | YEEES |
| 22:49.23 | anoobisa | you got it |
| 22:49.56 | fredl | well it's not a very common thing to do so sorry it takes some time to figure it out :) |
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| 22:50.12 | anoobisa | whats so uncommon about it |
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| 22:50.32 | nsadmin | the uncommenness is due to not many people doing it... |
| 22:50.46 | fredl | hehe nsadmin :) |
| 22:50.49 | anoobisa | hehe |
| 22:51.04 | anoobisa | indeed but is it not recommended? |
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| 22:51.25 | nsadmin | well the thing is you'd have to partition the raid storage volume |
| 22:51.27 | fredl | *shrug* to be honest there's nothing really against it I think... |
| 22:51.36 | anoobisa | or is it uncommon because it is stupid |
| 22:51.46 | nsadmin | and if you did that already, it's easy but if not, it's going to be harder... |
| 22:51.59 | nsadmin | now, those other two raid volumes, are they empty? |
| 22:52.03 | fredl | its just that typically one makes a RAID to have certain advantages like (among others) flexibility |
| 22:52.12 | anoobisa | ok guys lemme explain |
| 22:52.27 | Rovanion | Hi channel. Do you think the ARM version of Debian will run on a TI Da-Vinci processor? |
| 22:52.28 | spawn_ | what |
| 22:52.58 | abrotman | Rovanion: check the ARM install guide |
| 22:52.59 | anoobisa | i got a root server from a company it got 4 gig root 1 gig swap and the rest 745 gig root |
| 22:53.16 | abrotman | Rovanion: or ask #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net |
| 22:53.21 | anoobisa | those partitions sit on raid1 and they are ext3 |
| 22:53.41 | nsadmin | so those are md0, 1, 2 |
| 22:53.46 | anoobisa | yes |
| 22:53.52 | Rovanion | abrotman: Thank you, I will check both resources |
| 22:54.00 | anoobisa | md2 is 745 and i want to make it smaller |
| 22:54.24 | nsadmin | anoobisa what you -could- do is take the large one and make a pv out of the whole thing |
| 22:54.42 | morie_ko | I need a little help |
| 22:54.46 | morie_ko | I keep getting an error |
| 22:55.05 | anoobisa | nsadmin but that will destroy the sysem that I have on there right now right |
| 22:55.06 | morie_ko | NEUROMANCER:/home/zhenia# apt-get install subversion sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jdk ant unzip |
| 22:55.06 | morie_ko | Reading package lists... Done |
| 22:55.06 | morie_ko | Building dependency tree |
| 22:55.07 | morie_ko | Reading state information... Done |
| 22:55.07 | morie_ko | Package sun-java6-jre is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
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| 22:55.10 | fredl | anoobisa - to shortcircuit this, you can use resize2fs |
| 22:55.25 | nsadmin | anoobisa: yes, but which you said you care nothing about |
| 22:55.26 | abrotman | !tell morie_ko about install java |
| 22:55.32 | fredl | it will work on an ext3 filesystem. |
| 22:55.49 | fredl | and it will keep your data. |
| 22:55.54 | anoobisa | nsadmin is there no way to make that m2 partition smaller |
| 22:56.03 | nsadmin | sure there is |
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| 22:56.35 | fredl | anoobisa - you want to shrink the filesystem that sits on your md right now. use resize2fs |
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| 22:57.08 | fredl | you don't need to resize the md devices. |
| 22:57.17 | morie_ko | Well that hurt |
| 22:57.31 | nsadmin | morie_ko: ditto! |
| 22:57.44 | anoobisa | fredl that looks promising |
| 22:57.55 | abrotman | morie_ko: see what the bot told you |
| 22:57.57 | nsadmin | !pastebin |
| 22:57.58 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>. |
| 22:58.26 | TrueDD | Gnight to all |
| 22:58.36 | morie_ko | gn |
| 22:58.44 | nsadmin | allisterb__: No such nick/channel |
| 22:58.59 | nsadmin | argh. nm |
| 22:59.12 | morie_ko | apt-get install subversion sun-java6-jre sun-java6-jdk ant unzip |
| 22:59.13 | morie_ko | fails |
| 22:59.18 | fredl | anoobisa, I'm actually a bit lost on how to use the space that comes available on the raid for lvm. |
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| 22:59.33 | morie_ko | E: Package sun-java6-jre has no installation candidate |
| 22:59.39 | nsadmin | morie_ko: so none of those packages install? |
| 22:59.41 | morie_ko | what can i do |
| 22:59.42 | fredl | I'm afraid that cannot be done actually. |
| 22:59.54 | anoobisa | ok why |
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| 23:00.06 | anoobisa | can I create lvm within ext3 partiton? |
| 23:00.11 | fredl | anoobisa, well it can be done.. but the thing is, you need to create a volume group first. |
| 23:00.21 | themill | morie_ko: do you have "non-free" in your sources.list? |
| 23:00.28 | anoobisa | well pysical volume first |
| 23:00.34 | morie_ko | no |
| 23:00.37 | fredl | you create a volume group by adding physical partitions (or raid partitions) to it |
| 23:00.41 | morie_ko | I used this source list |
| 23:00.50 | morie_ko | http://www.debianadmin.com/adding-ubuntu-repositories.html |
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| 23:01.15 | themill | morie_ko: ummm... are you running debian or ubuntu? |
| 23:01.21 | morie_ko | debian |
| 23:01.28 | morie_ko | lenny |
| 23:01.42 | nsadmin | adding ubuntu repos won't work well |
| 23:01.42 | themill | morie_ko: then you don't want any of the repositories that are listed in that article. |
| 23:01.44 | abrotman | morie_ko: wtf .. why ? |
| 23:01.51 | fredl | anoobisa - by using resize2fs you don't give the free space to some new partition though. |
| 23:01.52 | morie_ko | >.< |
| 23:02.06 | abrotman | that website should be shut down |
| 23:02.07 | anoobisa | ok |
| 23:02.20 | anoobisa | but i free it |
| 23:02.28 | fredl | anoobisa, so you would first need to resize2fs, THEN resize your partitions to match the size of your new filesystem |
| 23:02.30 | anoobisa | and then i can use that space to create an lvm partition |
| 23:03.07 | morie_ko | linux isn't second nature not me, sorry if this seams like an obvious task |
| 23:03.19 | morie_ko | >_<* |
| 23:03.23 | fredl | (but the above part is tricky, you need to keep track of how many disk blocks your new filesystem is using and match your resizing partitions accordingly |
| 23:03.31 | morie_ko | what repository should I use |
| 23:03.39 | abrotman | morie_ko: the bot told you already |
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| 23:04.04 | morie_ko | in a really confusing manner yes i was told |
| 23:04.08 | fredl | anoobisa - it's not a path I would recommend to somebody without a lot of experience to be honest. |
| 23:04.14 | abrotman | !tel morie_ko about install java |
| 23:04.17 | abrotman | !tel morie_ko about non-free |
| 23:04.21 | fredl | guided or unguided. |
| 23:04.27 | abrotman | if something in those instructions do not make sense, ask |
| 23:04.36 | nsadmin | >tel abrotman about tel |
| 23:04.38 | anoobisa | well I can always try again |
| 23:04.43 | nsadmin | :) |
| 23:04.50 | abrotman | morie_ko: please do not msg me |
| 23:05.00 | abrotman | morie_ko: ask in the channel |
| 23:05.13 | fredl | anoobisa, not really :) if you want to do it all over from scratch that's not so difficult. |
| 23:05.17 | morie_ko | sigh |
| 23:05.25 | themill | morie_ko: go back to your original sources.list you had when you installed debian. It was probably right. pastebin it if you want someone to look at it. /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 23:05.43 | morie_ko | so now that I blew away my repository |
| 23:05.49 | morie_ko | and saved over it |
| 23:06.00 | fredl | anoobisa - your situation is even a bit more complex since you already have an md device on top of your physical partitions. |
| 23:06.04 | themill | dpkg: tell morie_ko about sources.list |
| 23:06.04 | morie_ko | with the 'helpful' webpage |
| 23:06.06 | nsadmin | morie_ko: where are you located? |
| 23:06.22 | morie_ko | Seattle, why are you going to come over there and slap me |
| 23:06.34 | morie_ko | because I am not telling if so |
| 23:06.36 | nsadmin | sheesh :P |
| 23:06.40 | themill | morie_ko: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free |
| 23:06.57 | nsadmin | put that in your sources.list and smoke it :) |
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| 23:07.26 | themill | morie_ko: also, as dpkg just told you, add: deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free |
| 23:07.45 | anoobisa | fredl not really |
| 23:08.00 | fredl | anoobisa - not really what? |
| 23:08.02 | morie_ko | deb http://ftp/.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main |
| 23:08.05 | morie_ko | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.07 | morie_ko | what's my cc |
| 23:08.18 | anoobisa | the md is th physical soft raid array |
| 23:08.19 | themill | morie_ko: us (what I just wrote!) |
| 23:08.19 | nsadmin | seattle? us |
| 23:08.37 | nsadmin | wet enough for ya? |
| 23:09.00 | anoobisa | so i would want to create md3 with lvm on it and then create the pv on there |
| 23:09.02 | themill | morie_ko: you may as well add contrib and non-free to the end of those lines now as I did in the two examples I just gave you. |
| 23:09.07 | anoobisa | should not really be that hard |
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| 23:09.40 | nsadmin | themill: he wants to install java, he'll need non-free I guess |
| 23:10.05 | themill | yes... that's why I added it |
| 23:10.06 | morie_ko | bash: deb: command not found |
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| 23:10.26 | morie_ko | -_- |
| 23:10.33 | nsadmin | morie_ko: you edit /etc/apt/sources.list and put the deb lines there |
| 23:10.38 | themill | morie_ko: they're lines for your /etc/apt/sources.list -- you know, the file you've been editing. |
| 23:10.48 | fredl | anoobisa - can you cut/paste /proc/mdstat ? |
| 23:10.58 | aslag | I've just moved from compiling my own kernels to using deb ones; deb kernels seem to have pc_spkr compiled in so I can't rmmod it to silence the damned thing. how do others get around this? |
| 23:11.03 | fredl | I'm not sure if that'll work from the rescue disk... |
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| 23:11.59 | anoobisa | http://pastebin.com/m10f976aa yeh there are no devices left |
| 23:12.04 | adb | !tell aslag -about pcspkr |
| 23:12.17 | fredl | anoobisa, I thought I read in your fdisk -l that all partitions are in md0 but I may have read wrong |
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| 23:12.31 | anoobisa | na each md is a partition |
| 23:12.34 | fredl | hence my assertion that you would need to create new partitions. |
| 23:13.08 | anoobisa | well create a new md3 |
| 23:13.11 | fredl | ok, so md[0-2] are all in use? |
| 23:13.36 | anoobisa | yes so I would need to setup software raid from scratch |
| 23:13.36 | nsadmin | and if the original filesystem is on the whole device, that's going to be a fairly challenging process |
| 23:13.48 | fredl | yeah if you still have space on the disks to create /dev/sda4 /dev/sdb4 first, then you can create an md3 |
| 23:14.08 | aslag | adb: that doesn't work with 2.6.30-2-amd64 |
| 23:14.10 | nsadmin | do you have the machine within sight? or is it thousands of miles away? |
| 23:14.13 | anoobisa | must create md3 first |
| 23:14.15 | anoobisa | no? |
| 23:14.34 | fredl | well ok, which partitions are you going to put in md3? |
| 23:14.44 | aslag | adb: I have both modules blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf |
| 23:15.15 | fredl | anoobisa, not sda[1-3] or sdb[1-3], that much is sure right? |
| 23:15.15 | nsadmin | aslag: probably you'd have to reboot... not sure about that tho |
| 23:15.24 | aslag | I did |
| 23:15.26 | aslag | no dice |
| 23:15.37 | aslag | how could that work if these aren't modules? |
| 23:15.44 | nsadmin | err anoobisa no don't reboot |
| 23:15.45 | Arrowmaster | they are modules |
| 23:16.00 | aslag | lsmod doesn't report them |
| 23:16.22 | fredl | anoobisa - which partitions are you going to put in md3? |
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| 23:16.51 | anoobisa | I am reading up on it now |
| 23:16.59 | aslag | so they must be compiled-in, eh? |
| 23:17.03 | aslag | or have different names |
| 23:17.10 | Arrowmaster | /lib/modules/2.6.30-2-amd64/kernel/drivers/input/misc/pcspkr.ko |
| 23:17.12 | aslag | right? |
| 23:17.13 | Arrowmaster | its a module |
| 23:17.24 | Arrowmaster | its not listed by lsmod because you blacklisted it |
| 23:17.26 | morie_ko | um so i just added the deb line in to the sources file |
| 23:17.27 | fredl | anoobisa - you need free partitions on your disks to create an mdraid with. |
| 23:17.34 | morie_ko | and I still get an error installing sun |
| 23:17.41 | morie_ko | :-/ |
| 23:17.51 | anoobisa | I need tp free space first to create new partitons |
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| 23:17.55 | anoobisa | to |
| 23:17.56 | aslag | so it's not loaded, but it still beeps |
| 23:18.01 | aslag | how is that? |
| 23:18.10 | hark | morie_ko: would help if you give us the error |
| 23:18.16 | hark | aslag: mute it |
| 23:18.25 | Arrowmaster | are you sure its the pcspkr thats beeping and not the speakers |
| 23:18.28 | fredl | anoobisa - that's what I've been trying to tell you. freeing up space in order to create new partitions is NOT trivial. |
| 23:18.42 | anoobisa | fredl and? |
| 23:18.50 | aslag | no, I'm not sure, I suppose; I'm using the console and assume it's the pc speaker |
| 23:18.51 | hark | morie_ko: /msg dpkg bat |
| 23:18.54 | anoobisa | you know some things in life are not easy :D |
| 23:18.56 | aslag | (no X involved) |
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| 23:18.58 | Hexxeh | Hey |
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| 23:19.04 | bododo | hi folks! :) |
| 23:19.15 | anoobisa | I will try it anyways |
| 23:19.16 | morie_ko | E: Package sun-java6-jre has no installation candidate |
| 23:19.21 | Hexxeh | I've got a .c file which needs to be compiled as 64-bit, but I'm working on a 32-bit box. How can I cross-compile to 64-bit? |
| 23:19.33 | bododo | I'm running Lenny and I was wondering if there is a possible way to upgrade glibc (I need it to build webkit) |
| 23:19.48 | markybob | Hexxeh, you cant |
| 23:19.49 | fredl | anoobisa - good luck :) |
| 23:19.51 | abrotman | bododo: just libc6? |
| 23:19.58 | azeem | bododo: why do you need it? |
| 23:19.58 | bododo | I've been tols that it's not advisable to mix repos |
| 23:20.04 | anoobisa | fredl thanks I will let you know how it all turned out |
| 23:20.06 | hark | morie_ko: it's in non-free, /msg dpkg non-free |
| 23:20.11 | bododo | abrotman: yes, well, I guees |
| 23:20.15 | themill | morie_ko: did you run "aptitude update" after editing your sources.list? |
| 23:20.18 | fredl | anoobisa - but since you don't care about the actual data on there you might save yourself a lot of effort by doing it from start |
| 23:20.19 | anoobisa | I am in it for the experience |
| 23:20.24 | bododo | azeem: to build webkit, so I can build midori |
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| 23:20.34 | azeem | bododo: I doubt webkit needs a newer glibc |
| 23:20.35 | anoobisa | I have no physical access to the machine |
| 23:20.36 | fredl | anoobisa, but if you intend to learn something from it, by all means, go :) |
| 23:20.47 | bododo | azeem: it actually does :( |
| 23:20.48 | azeem | bododo: which feature is missing in lenny's glibc? |
| 23:21.30 | bododo | azeem: I actually don't know exactly what but webkit complains about glibc version |
| 23:21.44 | azeem | bododo: that's not sufficient informatin |
| 23:21.53 | azeem | what's the error messagE? |
| 23:22.16 | themill | bododo: recompiling the package on lenny would probably be sufficient. /msg dpkg ssb |
| 23:22.31 | morie_ko | aptitude update did it thank you MIll |
| 23:22.45 | morie_ko | i did apt-get update |
| 23:22.53 | fredl | anoobisa - bottomline: you want to shrink your existing ext3 on top of one or more of the md's. Then you want to shrink the md's themselves. Then you want to align the physical partitions with your md's. Then you want to create new partitions. On top of those new partitions you create a new md, on top of the new md you create new lvm volumes |
| 23:23.05 | fredl | anoobisa, simple as that :) |
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| 23:23.14 | themill | morie_ko: no worries |
| 23:23.38 | anoobisa | fredl yap indeed |
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| 23:23.53 | aslag | damnit; setterm -blength 0 doesn't silence things like console aptitude |
| 23:23.56 | anoobisa | can you have more than 1 partition in an md? |
| 23:23.59 | aslag | this is retarded |
| 23:24.12 | anoobisa | guess not right |
| 23:24.14 | fredl | anoobisa, sure. you can have many partitions in an md |
| 23:24.18 | bododo | azeem: Requested 'glib-2.0 >= 2.21.3' but version of GLib is 2.16.6 |
| 23:24.25 | azeem | bododo: eh |
| 23:24.30 | azeem | that's glib,not glibc |
| 23:24.34 | fredl | anoobisa, you just saw that in your /proc/mdadm :) |
| 23:24.41 | bododo | ah! my bad! |
| 23:24.50 | bododo | so? how do I fix this, please? |
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| 23:24.54 | anoobisa | not really |
| 23:25.02 | fredl | anoobisa, md2 : active raid1 sda3[0] sdb3[1] |
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| 23:25.17 | anoobisa | there were 3 mds with 3 partitons |
| 23:25.19 | fredl | anoobisa, that means sda3 and sdb3 are part of the mdraid md3 |
| 23:25.30 | anoobisa | md2 |
| 23:25.35 | azeem | bododo: by backporting glib I guess |
| 23:25.36 | fredl | yeah md2 |
| 23:25.43 | fredl | scuzi :) |
| 23:25.58 | bododo | ok, will check out backportage :) |
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| 23:26.14 | Gratz474 | what version of the intel driver comes with debian testing? |
| 23:26.18 | Gratz474 | 2.76 or 2.8 ? |
| 23:26.23 | Gratz474 | 2.7** |
| 23:26.23 | fredl | anoobisa - guess how many partitions you need in a RAID10 :) |
| 23:26.26 | adb | judd, versions glib |
| 23:26.27 | judd | adb: glib -- |
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| 23:26.43 | izike | how can i get the build system for kernel modules in debian? i tried to install linux-kbuild-2.6.26 and still i dont have /lib/modules/..../kbuild |
| 23:26.49 | fredl | ok that wasn't funny :P |
| 23:26.57 | anoobisa | dunno you'll tell me the answer in a second |
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| 23:27.31 | fredl | no I won't, I was just fucking with you :P but yeah the simple answer is you can have plenty of partitions in an md |
| 23:27.46 | bododo | it says that it's too generic :( |
| 23:27.58 | azeem | bododo: what is "it" and "it"? |
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| 23:28.15 | azeem | there's no glib backport, if you are asking that |
| 23:28.20 | azeem | you will have to backport it yourself |
| 23:28.21 | bododo | how do I specify for eg. to apt-get to get the needed glib must come from backports? |
| 23:28.24 | azeem | or upgrade to testing |
| 23:28.27 | _empty | Hello, what to do on an grub error 15? Installed true a usb-stick, and after finish I rebooted and get error 15 direct.. Any suggestions? |
| 23:28.41 | bododo | azeem: backports.org and glib :) |
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| 23:29.48 | fredl | anoobisa - mdraid = multiple devices raid btw. |
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| 23:30.02 | bododo | hum; btw what's the name of the package for glib? //sorry, still a n00b |
| 23:30.14 | azeem | libglib2.0-dev |
| 23:30.26 | bododo | ah! thanks azeem ! |
| 23:30.36 | fredl | although that's kind of an oxymoron if you think about it, multiple devices array of disks. |
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| 23:32.22 | Gratz474 | how can i see what packages are in testing? |
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| 23:32.39 | Gratz474 | I need the newer intel driver I would like to know if it is the newer version |
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| 23:33.17 | azeem | Gratz474: go to http://packages.debian.org |
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| 23:34.24 | Gratz474 | I cant find the intel driver on there hmm zem |
| 23:34.27 | Gratz474 | azeem, |
| 23:34.49 | azeem | well, I'm pretty sure it is present in testing :) |
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| 23:35.52 | bododo | well no chance for me, it says that the version @ backports is the recent one |
| 23:36.04 | azeem | 00:28 < azeem> there's no glib backport, if you are asking that |
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| 23:36.27 | bododo | aww! sorry, I didn't notice that message azeem |
| 23:36.34 | Gratz474 | xserver-xorg-video-intel (2:2.9.0-1) this is the newer one right? |
| 23:36.47 | bododo | otoh I noticed that you said: backport it yourself |
| 23:36.51 | bododo | how do I do this? |
| 23:36.58 | themill | Gratz474: newer than what? |
| 23:37.02 | bododo | is annoying, and very sorry |
| 23:37.21 | azeem | bododo: if you don't know, I suggest you go with whatever browser is provided with lenny |
| 23:37.23 | bcolenj | whats the preferred method for using spamassassin and clamav with exim? |
| 23:38.12 | bododo | azeem: I can probably build it from sources, won't I end with a broken systen that relies on the old one? |
| 23:38.18 | Gratz474 | themill, well i know the last version i used with debian was not so good |
| 23:38.23 | azeem | bododo: could be |
| 23:38.24 | Gratz474 | themill, i think that was etch |
| 23:38.29 | Gratz474 | maybe lenny |
| 23:38.35 | azeem | Gratz474: that's not very helpful |
| 23:38.36 | bododo | azeem: I'm very annoyed by the version of iceweasel, actually :( |
| 23:38.49 | Gratz474 | i think azeem 2.7 had major performance issues |
| 23:39.08 | bododo | anyway, thanks a lot for your help! I really liked it! |
| 23:39.12 | azeem | azeem 2.7? |
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| 23:39.47 | Gratz474 | i mean the intel driver 2.7 |
| 23:39.51 | themill | Gratz474: Only you know whether it's newer than whatever particular version you're asking about... we're not mind-readers. Yes, it's newer than the ones in etch and lenny. There's no surprise there. |
| 23:39.53 | Gratz474 | i think 2.8+ was when it got good |
| 23:40.13 | azeem | so what does that say about 2.9? |
| 23:40.19 | Gratz474 | themill, yea i dont remember the version I was using when i got crappy performance |
| 23:40.28 | themill | nor do we... |
| 23:40.34 | Gratz474 | when did they take out exa/xaa? |
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| 23:40.50 | Gratz474 | thats when it got crappy until they recently fixed that |
| 23:41.05 | themill | Gratz474: check the changelog. |
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| 23:46.17 | rjaym | does anyone know of some utility that can tell me the details of the filesystem for a given ISO (cd image) |
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| 23:57.28 | jelly-home | rjaym: what sort of details? mount -o loop can tell a lot (including the contents) |
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| 23:58.49 | rjaym | err, not sure, but I'll try that |
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