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| 00:04.05 | babilen | benedikt: Do you switch between apt-get and aptitude? Why don't you use aptitude? |
| 00:05.31 | jpinx-eeepc | sway: ranix: ok - I have the phone physically plugged into the serial port, but lspci is saying nothin interesting - what do I need to do? |
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| 00:06.30 | sway | syrup distribution over breakfast pastries? |
| 00:06.49 | pzn | can someone recommend a package for monitoring network? that can test every minute for http ssh ping ftp status... (don't want mrtg because is runs every 5 minutes) |
| 00:07.55 | asarch | Is it correct? http://shak.pastebin.com/d44ba9933 |
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| 00:15.55 | benedikt | babilen: old habit. trying to use aptitude but i sometimes forget |
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| 00:20.41 | welly | hi all, I'm trying to install mysql from apt on a debian 3.1 install. i'm pretty new to all this and while I've used ubuntu a fair bit so am a little dangerous in linux, i'm not that experienced :) basically all the debian sarge sources are giving me a screen full of errors |
| 00:21.35 | welly | my sources.list looks like http://pastie.org/674313 |
| 00:21.56 | markybob | welly, are you crazy? you're installing 3.1 when the current stable is 5.0? |
| 00:22.22 | welly | markybob: it's not my server! |
| 00:22.29 | Hyperi- | debian 3.1 != mysql 5.0 |
| 00:22.30 | markybob | welly, do you care at all about security updates? about sanity? about...anything relevant? |
| 00:22.30 | welly | it's been running for some time, I'm guessing |
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| 00:22.50 | markybob | welly, then upgrade. then you can talk about installing mysql without errors |
| 00:22.55 | welly | markybob: literally I've just been given access to the server now |
| 00:23.06 | themill | !sarge |
| 00:23.07 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for Debian version 3.1, released June 6th, 2005. Sarge security support ended on 2008-03-31, this release is no longer supported. Sarge users should upgrade to Etch, ask me about <sarge->etch>. Removed from the mirrors; ask me about <archive>, <sarge sources.list>, <sarge-backports>. Get old Sarge ISOs here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.1_r8/ http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSarge |
| 00:23.11 | welly | markybob: the client is coming in in half an hour, they'll love that :) |
| 00:23.12 | welly | lol |
| 00:23.23 | Hyperi- | welly: you can always configure it from source btw |
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| 00:23.34 | markybob | welly, it's not happening. 3.1 is ancient. most mirrors dont have it |
| 00:23.36 | welly | ok, i'm going to speak to them about getting this upgraded or something |
| 00:23.44 | themill | *none* of the mirrors have sarge |
| 00:23.45 | Hyperi- | If apt is giving you lots of errors, I doubt the previous packages were done with it :P |
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| 00:25.10 | themill | Hyperi-: of course they could have been -- just not touched for 12 months or more. |
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| 00:28.51 | Iradieh | How do I found out what the external burner is called through the terminal? I mean the device node for the dvd? |
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| 00:31.54 | LtL | Iradieh: should be /dev/dvd |
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| 00:32.24 | Iradieh | LtL: It could be called something else |
| 00:32.26 | LtL | Iradieh: but its also /dev/cdrom or /dev/cdrw |
| 00:32.33 | Iradieh | I get a :-[ LOAD TRAY failed with SK=5h/INVALID FIELD IN CDB]: Input/output error |
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| 00:33.11 | LtL | Iradieh: eeww, google that baby |
| 00:33.15 | Iradieh | LtL: I did |
| 00:33.23 | Iradieh | I think it's just that dev/dvd is wrong |
| 00:33.30 | LtL | Iradieh: try eject |
| 00:33.43 | LtL | ls /dev/dvd |
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| 00:33.49 | LtL | oops sorry |
| 00:34.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | more like ls -l /dev/dvd |
| 00:34.13 | Iradieh | LtL: what? |
| 00:34.14 | LtL | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2009-10-22 08:21 /dev/dvd -> hda |
| 00:34.28 | Iradieh | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2009-10-15 16:53 dvd -> hda |
| 00:34.46 | Iradieh | So? |
| 00:34.46 | LtL | Iradieh: bad hardware maybe |
| 00:34.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | check in dmesg... |
| 00:35.24 | Iradieh | dmesg? |
| 00:35.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | or how about hdparm -I /dev/dvd |
| 00:35.33 | Iradieh | LtL: Good hardware, it just worked sconds ago. |
| 00:35.53 | Iradieh | CutMeOwnThroat: hdparm: command not found |
| 00:36.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | a) need to be root and b)... |
| 00:36.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | !installit |
| 00:36.09 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
| 00:36.36 | Iradieh | search hdparm |
| 00:36.40 | Iradieh | !search hdparm |
| 00:36.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | its... surprise, surprise, in the hdparm package |
| 00:37.04 | Iradieh | now I got lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2009-10-29 01:34 dvd -> sr0 |
| 00:37.13 | Iradieh | hmm |
| 00:37.22 | Iradieh | All it required was a quick reboot of the burner |
| 00:37.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | that doesn't seem right |
| 00:38.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | sr0 is one of those weird extra scsi devices that do whatdoweknow |
| 00:38.40 | Iradieh | a Well as long as it works :D |
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| 00:38.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | and ... "Also ask me about <search>" means you can do "/msg dpkg search" |
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| 00:39.48 | Iradieh | thans |
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| 00:53.24 | hszhao | does someone use tor in debian? |
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| 00:53.59 | markybob | hszhao, try to be less annoying |
| 00:54.01 | markybob | !anyone |
| 00:54.01 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 00:54.24 | rabidweezle | !versions gnomenu |
| 00:55.23 | hszhao | thanks |
| 00:56.05 | hszhao | I set strictexitnodes to 1 and use a exitnodes list in my torrc |
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| 00:56.31 | kaduk | HI |
| 00:56.36 | kaduk | i cant remove libapach2-mod-python |
| 00:56.42 | kaduk | ERROR: Module python does not exist! |
| 00:56.48 | hszhao | I want to know the order which tor pick a node from the exitnodes list. |
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| 00:57.03 | hszhao | Is it random or not? |
| 00:57.57 | hszhao | do you use synaptic or commandline to remove it? |
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| 01:02.25 | hszhao | perhaps you should first amend the Package Dependencies using apt-get or synaptic. |
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| 01:08.56 | benedikt | can i see what packages I have installed from sid? |
| 01:11.13 | mesaGL | dpkg --get-selections |
| 01:11.14 | dpkg | mesaGL: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 01:11.43 | benedikt | haha |
| 01:11.43 | mesaGL | hehe. well i don't know |
| 01:12.02 | benedikt | dpkg --get-selections seems to give me all thats installed |
| 01:12.02 | dpkg | benedikt: I wish you would RTFM. |
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| 01:12.15 | benedikt | i want to see what i have from the sid repo |
| 01:12.21 | PovAddict | dpkg --stfu |
| 01:12.21 | dpkg | PovAddict: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 01:12.34 | benedikt | dpkg make a funny |
| 01:12.34 | dpkg | benedikt: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 01:12.50 | PovAddict | hmm |
| 01:12.51 | PovAddict | problem |
| 01:13.02 | PovAddict | I have an IPv6 tunnel |
| 01:13.35 | PovAddict | the hostname of the APT repository I use (ftp.ccc.uba.ar) has an IPv6 address |
| 01:13.40 | PovAddict | but it doesn't seem to actually work |
| 01:14.01 | PovAddict | and if it did, downloading packages would be *way* slower over the tunnel than over IPv4 |
| 01:14.14 | PovAddict | how can I stop apt from trying the ipv6 address? |
| 01:15.24 | PovAddict | it just took an entire minute or two trying to connect to the repo before timing out... then went through ipv4 and took a second to download the pkg |
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| 01:15.51 | module000 | PovAddict: your ISP doesn't support ipv6 perhaps? |
| 01:16.03 | PovAddict | it surely doesn't, that's why I'm using a tunnel |
| 01:16.07 | PovAddict | which works |
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| 01:17.31 | benedikt | anybody running squeeze and can confirm this bug is still in squeeze http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=545825~ (run gnome-keybinding-properties) |
| 01:18.02 | module000 | PovAddict: you can force it i believe in /etc/gai.conf to resolve ipv4 system wide, but i don't know how to force only apt to use it |
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| 01:20.51 | hormesis | i am a heron. i ahev a long neck and i pick fish out of the water w/ my beak. if u dont repost this msg in ever topic on irc i will fly into your kitchen tonight and make a mess of your pots and pans |
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| 01:32.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... and if you do repost this message, you'll also make lots of friends everywhere and be banned |
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| 01:33.07 | Tiders | On Debian will the Nvidia drivers, wireless networking, and crossover work out of box? |
| 01:33.45 | markybob | Tiders, no. you have to manually install nvidia drivers, possibly download wireless firmware and buy and install crossover |
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| 01:34.20 | Tiders | markybob, Well I already have Crossover bought.. So I compile the Nvidia drivers? |
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| 01:34.59 | markybob | Tiders, yes. /msg dpkg nvidia |
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| 01:35.48 | Tiders | markybob, How hard is it to get wireless going? |
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| 01:36.07 | markybob | Tiders, can you read and follow simple instructions? |
| 01:36.14 | Tiders | markybob, Yes |
| 01:36.28 | markybob | Tiders, congratulations. you beat 90% of ubuntu users and can install wireless on debian |
| 01:36.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's not true, there is an nvidia kernel in debian... |
| 01:36.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions nvidia-kernel-2.6.26-2-686 |
| 01:36.54 | judd | CutMeOwnThroat: nvidia-kernel-2.6.26-2-686 -- lenny/non-free: 173.14.09+3+lenny1 sid/non-free: 173.14.09+3+lenny1 squeeze/non-free: 173.14.09+3+lenny1 |
| 01:37.20 | markybob | CutMeOwnThroat, what wasnt true? the wiki it links to lists that and other options |
| 01:37.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's not true that you have to manually install nvidia drivers... |
| 01:38.00 | markybob | CutMeOwnThroat, you do. having to aptitude install anything is manually installing it. it's not done by the installer |
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| 01:38.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | if manually doesn't mean something like "aptitude install nvidia-kernel-2.6.26-2-686" |
| 01:38.26 | Tiders | markybob, Manually usually means compiling it yourself |
| 01:38.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, true than |
| 01:38.31 | markybob | CutMeOwnThroat, you're mistaken on what manually and automatic means |
| 01:38.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | but easily misunderstood |
| 01:38.43 | markybob | Tiders, manually means doing it yourself |
| 01:38.56 | Tiders | markybob, Typing in a command to have it installed for you isnt really doing it yourself |
| 01:39.04 | markybob | jesus |
| 01:39.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | well |
| 01:39.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | but then you *always* type in commands and the computer does something |
| 01:39.28 | Tiders | True I know Im just being a jerk sorry |
| 01:39.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | nobody uses tweezers and a bucket of bits |
| 01:39.40 | markybob | CutMeOwnThroat, no. you aptitude install foo and it automatically installs suggested applications |
| 01:39.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | but this is getting a bit philosophical |
| 01:40.07 | markybob | CutMeOwnThroat, you dont ask to install those packages. it's automatic. see? difference |
| 01:40.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | markybob, not manually, then? |
| 01:40.10 | Tiders | markybob, So when you said manually install wireless firmware is that in the repos as well? |
| 01:40.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | so it does it automatically if you do it manually? |
| 01:40.39 | markybob | Tiders, depends. in your magical world where you havent even mentioned which chipset you use, how would one know? |
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| 01:42.19 | markybob | CutMeOwnThroat, you need to lay off the drugs. your last comment is nonsense |
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| 01:42.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | markybob, did you already read it again? |
| 01:43.07 | mesaGL | is this the druge channel ? wow |
| 01:43.20 | markybob | mesaGL, apparently |
| 01:43.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | "apt-get install dopewars" |
| 01:43.47 | Tiders | markybob, My Wireless card is the Intel Wireless WiFi 5100 |
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| 01:44.38 | markybob | Tiders, that's in 2.6.26+ kernels. |
| 01:44.43 | mesaGL | markybob: don't take this wrong, but you are shall we say ... er ... a little off base. in fact, you sound like a druggy muppet |
| 01:44.56 | Tiders | markybob, So If I get the newest version of Debian it should work out of box? |
| 01:45.21 | markybob | Tiders, yes |
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| 01:45.57 | Tiders | markybob, Thanks Im considering dropping Ubuntu from my laptop since Karmic blows and its getting tons of errors and Debian seems a lot more stable |
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| 01:47.37 | markybob | Tiders, debian is always more stable than just about any distro |
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| 01:47.51 | benedikt | how can i find out what packages i have installed from unstable and what are from testing? |
| 01:48.04 | markybob | benedikt, you cant |
| 01:48.19 | Tiders | markybob, Im stuck between Fedora or Debian right now |
| 01:48.27 | benedikt | markybob: thanks |
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| 01:48.45 | markybob | Tiders, seriously? fedora? rpm? that's pretty much no contest :P |
| 01:48.46 | tntc | Tiders: I'd go with debian. Fedora tends to be more bleeding edge. |
| 01:48.51 | jken146 | Tiders: karmic will stabilise fairly soon, but obviously not to the extent of Debian stable. Ubuntu 10.04 will be taken from debian testing, so will be quite nice for a Ubuntu release. Features (& bugs) or stability, it's up to you :) |
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| 01:49.19 | benedikt | jken146: will 10.04 be from testing and not unstable? |
| 01:49.23 | jken146 | yes |
| 01:49.30 | benedikt | finally they get something right |
| 01:49.37 | benedikt | that was unfair |
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| 01:49.42 | jken146 | It's a Long Term Support release |
| 01:49.47 | markybob | benedikt, depends on the package. a lot of gnome's packages come from unstable (not in testing yet) |
| 01:49.48 | benedikt | ubuntu is great.. but at the aspect. |
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| 01:49.58 | Tiders | jken146, Does Debian still have a lot of features comparable to Ubuntu? |
| 01:50.00 | jken146 | The justification for using testing is to please business customers |
| 01:50.06 | HTT-Bird | anyone willing to suggest a (maintained) substitute for Firestarter? I so love it...but it's unmaintained and doesn't handle multiple internet-facing interfaces cleanly |
| 01:50.09 | benedikt | markybob: 9.04 has gnome 2.28 wich is in unstable now. testing has mainly 2.26 |
| 01:50.21 | markybob | *mainly. yes. |
| 01:50.48 | benedikt | ive spotted a few from 2.24 and a few from 2.28 |
| 01:51.03 | markybob | benedikt, thus my point |
| 01:51.05 | benedikt | the reason i was asking about seeing whats from unstable is that i hink i have messed up a bit of gnome somehow |
| 01:51.20 | HTT-Bird | Tiders, well...Debian is a little "rougher" in terms of setup initially, not quite as much hand-holding |
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| 01:51.23 | jken146 | Tiders: It depends on the packages, but the main difference is the 'usability' features of Ubuntu |
| 01:51.38 | Tiders | jken146, What do you mean? |
| 01:51.43 | benedikt | ive probably removed a metapackage and moved it to unstable and then back to testing or removed something else.. it aint quite right |
| 01:52.19 | markybob | benedikt, mixing never is quite right. you're discouraged from doing so |
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| 01:52.59 | benedikt | markybob: i know. but nautilus seg faults if you try to open properties and i hat the default behaviour. So i went out on a limp. |
| 01:53.25 | jken146 | Tiders: More things set up for you, things like the Software Centre, Gnome defaults being designed by Canonical rather than gnome devs.... look'n'feel stuff mostly. And then there's the non free repos in Ubuntu |
| 01:53.33 | Tiders | jken146, So what is the main thing that makes Debian better? |
| 01:53.37 | benedikt | but... gnome-core is a metapackage right? can i somehow force it to reinstall all the "belonign" packages and thus get "back" to gnome-core is it should be? |
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| 01:53.51 | jken146 | Tiders: Stability. And freeness, if you care about that. |
| 01:54.04 | markybob | !downgrade |
| 01:54.04 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. Also see <partial downgrade>, or <sdn>, or <unstable->testing> |
| 01:54.13 | jken146 | Other than that, Tiders, it's a matter of taste |
| 01:54.46 | benedikt | markybob: what if i did remove gnome-core and then aptitude install gnome-core? |
| 01:55.05 | PovAddict | module000: well "only for apt" isn't exactly what I need |
| 01:55.13 | Tiders | jken146, Does Debian have some sort of network manager to handle logging into Wifi with a WPA and setting other settings such as PEEP version? |
| 01:55.20 | PovAddict | module000: doing ipv4 "only for hostname ftp.ccc.uba.ar" will do as well |
| 01:55.35 | PovAddict | module000: maybe I could put its ipv4 address in my /etc/hosts and hope they don't change it :P |
| 01:55.39 | HTT-Bird | Tiders, yes, NetworkManager is available on Debian |
| 01:55.39 | benedikt | when i try to watch a move over gvfs (ssh) totem spits out a weird error that not even google knows about. "The playback of this movie requires a SFTP protocol source plugin which is not installed." |
| 01:55.51 | HTT-Bird | it's not the greatest thing since sliced bread though |
| 01:56.02 | benedikt | it gets the job done |
| 01:56.08 | benedikt | isnt networkmanager from ubuntu? |
| 01:56.15 | jken146 | Tiders: you can check at packages.debian.org |
| 01:56.16 | PovAddict | benedikt: gvfs-backends |
| 01:56.21 | benedikt | PovAddict: its installed |
| 01:56.36 | PovAddict | </knowledge> then |
| 01:56.42 | benedikt | ill stick to sshfs then |
| 01:56.46 | benedikt | for movie-watching |
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| 01:56.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | markybob, try apt-show-versions |
| 01:56.52 | Tiders | HTT-Bird, Does it come preinstalled or no? |
| 01:56.56 | benedikt | PovAddict: are you running squeeze? |
| 01:56.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | err |
| 01:57.00 | PovAddict | yes I am |
| 01:57.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | benedikt, try apt-show-versions |
| 01:57.13 | HTT-Bird | Tiders, nope I don't think so, installing software is pretty trivial on any modern distro though. xD |
| 01:57.15 | benedikt | PovAddict: gnome? |
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| 01:57.25 | Tiders | HTT-Bird, What do you mean |
| 01:57.26 | PovAddict | no, I use KDE |
| 01:57.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | benedikt, for your question about how to find out what package comes from where |
| 01:57.41 | jken146 | Tiders: you might find that you prefer wicd to network-manager |
| 01:57.45 | benedikt | CutMeOwnThroat: apt-show version? |
| 01:57.46 | PovAddict | but I searched gvfs, and the package description of gvfs-backends says it's supposed to have sftp |
| 01:57.49 | HTT-Bird | Tiders, it's all of one terminal command...or you can use Synaptic |
| 01:58.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | benedikt, no, as I wrote |
| 01:58.33 | Tiders | jken146, Alright Ill try it out |
| 01:58.36 | benedikt | PovAddict: was wondering if gnome-keybinding-properties works for you |
| 01:58.47 | HTT-Bird | btw...any suggestions on what to use for firewall administration? (I'm dealing with a laptop with both Ethernet and 802.11, and Firestarter doesn't handle two Internet-facing interfaces well) |
| 01:58.47 | benedikt | CutMeOwnThroat: ah, didnt realized i had to install a packet |
| 01:59.02 | benedikt | HTT-Bird: read man iptables :-) it isnt that hard when you get the hang of it |
| 01:59.12 | markybob | HTT-Bird, check out shellter |
| 01:59.40 | benedikt | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks, works like a charm |
| 01:59.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | benedikt, there is no sure way to tell where they are from if they don't have "lenny" or "etch" in the name, though... |
| 01:59.51 | HTT-Bird | benedikt, heh. I have...and my brain just doesn't seem to want to map what I want to iptables rules very well |
| 01:59.55 | HTT-Bird | markybob, will do |
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| 02:00.06 | PovAddict | thinks this apt mirror has a problem... |
| 02:00.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | benedikt, only can give you a hint from version number |
| 02:00.11 | benedikt | CutMeOwnThroat: my tseting install is two days old.. So i can be pretty sure :) |
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| 02:00.26 | PovAddict | when I run aptitude update, it downloads stuff |
| 02:00.29 | PovAddict | every time |
| 02:00.40 | PovAddict | even if I do it twice in a row |
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| 02:00.52 | PovAddict | I don't think that Translation-es file actually changed... |
| 02:01.04 | PovAddict | maybe their server doesn't support If-Modified-Since |
| 02:01.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | benedikt, my install must be 8 years old or so... apt-show-versions | grep -i 'no available' |wc -l ---> 219 (and I used apt-show-versions to clean up a couple of days ago) |
| 02:02.19 | benedikt | Nice! |
| 02:03.02 | benedikt | this one should grow old. work supplied me with a "new" laptop a few days ago. with a nvidia chipset ("its faster") |
| 02:03.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course, this includes things like googleearth, pine, mathplayer, nvidia-kernel-image etc |
| 02:04.01 | HTT-Bird | markybob, linky? can't find it in the Debian repos :( |
| 02:04.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | wait, and fvwm2? |
| 02:04.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmm, that's a bug |
| 02:05.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah, no, that's a transitional package |
| 02:05.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | now packaged as fvwm |
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| 02:06.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | benedikt, actually, I cheated... I've cloned that system quite a bit from machine to machine in that time |
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| 02:06.50 | Ser10UzMC | hi |
| 02:06.56 | Ser10UzMC | any black peeps in here, holla atcha boy |
| 02:07.28 | benedikt | CutMeOwnThroat: is that possible? to clone between different hardware? |
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| 02:08.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | benedikt, sure, these days you don't even have to take care not to clone a amd kernel onto an intel machine... else - the kernel detects everything on boot |
| 02:09.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course, you have to install nvidia kernel modules if you previously used ati and somesuch |
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| 02:09.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | but else... *shrug* |
| 02:09.19 | benedikt | thats good to know |
| 02:09.32 | benedikt | i wasnt sure how the kernel would react, ive never tried it |
| 02:09.35 | PovAddict | well |
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| 02:09.47 | PovAddict | if you use expert install, and ask for a "directed" initrd, then it may not work |
| 02:09.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | you can just tar things, untar it on a new disk and make it bootable with grub |
| 02:10.06 | PovAddict | but it's not exactly a common situation :) |
| 02:10.22 | kbotnen | Ser10UzMC, holla back at you, shizzle dizzle dazzle. |
| 02:10.24 | benedikt | good to know ! |
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| 02:11.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | benedikt, knoppix and other livecds go a bit further trying to autodetect graphics card as well as possible... |
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| 02:11.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | having your Debian on an usb stick isn't such a bad idea these days |
| 02:11.51 | HTT-Bird | portaDebian :D |
| 02:12.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | shame about the problem with journaling filesystems on usb |
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| 02:12.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | (if it really is a big problem) |
| 02:12.45 | liable | !ops Ser10UzMC |
| 02:12.45 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: liable complains about: Ser10UzMC |
| 02:12.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | thought so |
| 02:12.55 | HTT-Bird | blasted spammer. |
| 02:12.56 | benedikt | CutMeOwnThroat: i have an arm device running on a usb stick. woudl work to plug it in to my intel computer.. i even believe that the arm is little endian and the arm is big endian |
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| 02:12.56 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@ppp-69-229-213-65.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] by niko |
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| 02:12.59 | benedikt | wtf? |
| 02:13.00 | HTT-Bird | owned |
| 02:13.16 | liable | thanks niko |
| 02:13.19 | neoice | niko++ |
| 02:13.24 | niko | you're welcome |
| 02:13.24 | HTT-Bird | ++niko |
| 02:13.25 | tntc | tanks mon |
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| 02:13.43 | HTT-Bird | or, if you want some fun: ++niko++ |
| 02:14.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | HTT-Bird, don't overdo it |
| 02:14.06 | HTT-Bird | tee hee |
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| 02:15.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | I keep wondering what inspires people to do this |
| 02:15.24 | HTT-Bird | btw, got any suggestions on what to use for firewall setup? I'm not really comfortable reaching in and messing with iptables guts (yet), Firestarter doesn't handle two internet-facing network interfaces very well, and I can't find this Shellter thing that someone mentioned in the channel earlier, heh |
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| 02:16.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | why would you need a firewall? |
| 02:16.08 | benedikt | HTT-Bird: what are you looking to do with it? make a home firewall? check out untangle then |
| 02:16.13 | Xenguy | HTT-Bird: shorewall firewall is worth a look |
| 02:16.15 | HTT-Bird | benedikt, basically |
| 02:16.26 | benedikt | go check out untagle |
| 02:16.29 | HTT-Bird | this is the firewall-1-laptop case |
| 02:16.31 | HTT-Bird | will do :) |
| 02:16.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | if you don't want a service to be accessible, don't run it? |
| 02:16.50 | benedikt | hint: it doesnt work on an ISP level. not even as a temp-temp-temp thing for one hour. |
| 02:17.03 | Xenguy | benedikt: I don't see 'untangle' in debian? |
| 02:17.05 | HTT-Bird | CutMeOwnThroat, indeed, although, inetd likes to screw with that idea |
| 02:17.10 | benedikt | CutMeOwnThroat: Mmaybe he needs nat? |
| 02:17.13 | HTT-Bird | benedikt, don't see it either? |
| 02:17.21 | benedikt | Xenguy and HTT-Bird its a distro |
| 02:17.31 | HTT-Bird | oh, lol, heh, for a firewall appliance I take it? |
| 02:17.33 | benedikt | based on debian thuoh. |
| 02:17.35 | Xenguy | benedikt: this is debian for gawds sake |
| 02:18.18 | Xenguy | HTT-Bird: anyway, take your pick, mine is shorewall, works well |
| 02:18.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | tee hee |
| 02:18.30 | HTT-Bird | Xenguy, will check that out too |
| 02:18.46 | benedikt | i actually opt for shorewall too |
| 02:18.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | benedikt misunderstood him, because what he wants doesn't make a lot of sense |
| 02:18.53 | benedikt | id forgotten about it |
| 02:19.10 | benedikt | CutMeOwnThroat: or maybe because its past my bedtime |
| 02:19.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | HTT-Bird, if you're concerned about people trying a couple of 100 passwords on your sshd, install fail2ban |
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| 02:20.07 | HTT-Bird | CutMeOwnThroat, I don't even run sshd, man. |
| 02:20.30 | Xenguy | whaaa? |
| 02:20.34 | HTT-Bird | (I actually lost a Gentoo box to someone back when I was using the "keep a low service profile" approach) |
| 02:20.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, it works on all services needing authentication |
| 02:20.46 | Xenguy | .oO(that's impossible) |
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| 02:21.20 | Xenguy | prefers to build a ridiculously large blacklist... |
| 02:21.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | .oO(running gentoo?) |
| 02:21.53 | HTT-Bird | I used to, a while ago |
| 02:22.06 | Xenguy | (just for extreme prejudice ;-) |
| 02:22.08 | benedikt | and you are uncomfortable with iptbales? |
| 02:22.12 | davidisko | guys, does anyone have idea why on running system my harddrive remounts in ro mode? http://pastebin.com/m5ed6bf98 |
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| 02:22.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | fsck it? |
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| 02:22.38 | yokobr | hi guys |
| 02:22.52 | HTT-Bird | benedikt, well, not on this box to get things like stateful packet inspection and such working correctly |
| 02:22.56 | Xenguy | benedikt: I would never mess at that low level with firewalls; there are too many traps I think; a good firewall script makes it all much safer and easier IMHO |
| 02:23.12 | yokobr | plz, i've made a fresh install but i can't compile my ethernet driver |
| 02:23.21 | yokobr | so i don't have internet connection |
| 02:23.23 | Xenguy | benedikt: but hey, I'm lazy, I admit it ;-) |
| 02:23.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | "Aborting journal on device sda1" seems pretty obvious |
| 02:23.37 | benedikt | Xenguy: so am I. and proud of it. |
| 02:23.51 | Xenguy | benedikt: hehe - laziness as a virtue :P |
| 02:24.07 | HTT-Bird | yokobr, o.O what ethernet card do you have? |
| 02:24.17 | HTT-Bird | and I take it you're on a diff. box? |
| 02:24.20 | yokobr | 8139d, realtek chipset |
| 02:24.31 | Xenguy | hits the sack... |
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| 02:24.40 | davidisko | CutMeOwnThroat: running fsck... holdon |
| 02:25.03 | yokobr | HTT-Bird, it comes with a cd rom with the driver |
| 02:25.22 | yokobr | i thought about using ndiswrapper |
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| 02:25.57 | HTT-Bird | yokobr, don't even bother compiling! |
| 02:26.09 | HTT-Bird | your kernel will support it OOB |
| 02:26.12 | HTT-Bird | 8139too FTW |
| 02:26.22 | yokobr | how do i enable it so? |
| 02:26.33 | davidisko | CutMeOwnThroat: done. http://pastebin.com/m6fc5aabe |
| 02:26.49 | HTT-Bird | yokobr, I'd need to see a dmesg of the boot, it sounds like there's a bit of hardware troubleshooting to do |
| 02:27.04 | HTT-Bird | 8139s are well known for being IJW cards under Linux, from what I hear |
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| 02:27.37 | yokobr | HTT-Bird, even when i was installing it didn't reconised |
| 02:27.44 | HTT-Bird | :O |
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| 02:27.56 | HTT-Bird | do you have some way to get a dmesg from bootup of the failing box? |
| 02:28.03 | yokobr | no way |
| 02:28.03 | HTT-Bird | that's the first thing I'd need to troubleshoot the problem |
| 02:28.23 | HTT-Bird | yokobr, maybe removable media? |
| 02:28.24 | yokobr | i don't have usb ports, or diskets, nothing |
| 02:28.31 | HTT-Bird | WOW |
| 02:28.37 | HTT-Bird | O.O |
| 02:28.44 | yokobr | hehe |
| 02:28.45 | HTT-Bird | pencil and paper even? |
| 02:28.45 | yokobr | gigs |
| 02:28.59 | yokobr | Well, maybe, but the answer will come tomorrow |
| 02:29.09 | HTT-Bird | heh. |
| 02:29.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | !rube goldberg install |
| 02:29.28 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader." |
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| 02:30.52 | HTT-Bird | yokobr, what is this machine anyway? a server of some sort? |
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| 02:31.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, rube goldberg install is also wait, the card reader just fell on the floor and broke |
| 02:31.17 | dpkg | okay, CutMeOwnThroat |
| 02:31.49 | PovAddict | !rube goldberg install |
| 02:31.49 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader.", or wait, the card reader just fell on the floor and broke |
| 02:32.34 | HTT-Bird | any reason you can't try swapping network cards out? (it could be a faulty card...had that once on a Debian box where the Ethernet card wouldn't show, swapping cards fixed it) |
| 02:32.50 | jken146 | You can swap out hard disk |
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| 02:34.22 | yokobr | sorry, i'm back |
| 02:34.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | PovAddict, no reason to make it too easy... |
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| 02:35.11 | yokobr | well, it's an old compac presario.. Intel Celeron 700mhz... and Kayomi (8139d Realtek) ethernet pci |
| 02:35.18 | HTT-Bird | yokobr, ah...a couple of other suggestions from when you were gone: try carting the dead box's hard disk over to another machine, or try swapping ethernet cards |
| 02:35.35 | HTT-Bird | PCI FastEthernet cards are cheap-cheap-cheap these days |
| 02:35.48 | yokobr | i've tryied. Well, it worked well on ubuntu. |
| 02:35.55 | yokobr | but ubuntu is a huge mamute |
| 02:35.59 | HTT-Bird | :O |
| 02:36.02 | HTT-Bird | that's weird. |
| 02:36.11 | HTT-Bird | 8139too's fairly stable, afaik |
| 02:36.21 | HTT-Bird | could it be that the card hit the fan? |
| 02:36.35 | yokobr | nope |
| 02:36.52 | HTT-Bird | :( |
| 02:36.54 | yokobr | if i reinstall it again, it'll work again with ubuntu. |
| 02:36.57 | HTT-Bird | heh. |
| 02:36.57 | jken146 | You could try a minimal install of ubuntu, but that's a bit like setting up debian yourself anyway :) |
| 02:37.02 | yokobr | Is there any command to enable it? |
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| 02:37.13 | yokobr | maybe is just disabled. |
| 02:37.18 | yokobr | it's * |
| 02:37.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | look what dmesg tells you about it |
| 02:37.41 | yokobr | i don't think there's such an option like that |
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| 02:38.17 | HTT-Bird | yokobr, try 'dmesg | grep 8139too' on the failing box |
| 02:38.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | !rtl-wifi |
| 02:38.22 | dpkg | [rtl-wifi] the Realtek Linux wireless drivers, forked from the rtl8180-sa2400 project. Supports RTL8180, RTL8185, RTL8187 and RTL8187B chipsets. RTL8187 support included in mainline kernel from 2.6.23, RTL8180 and RTL8185 from 2.6.25, some RTL8187B from 2.6.27. RTL8187SE not supported, ask me about <rtl8187se>. http://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x |
| 02:38.45 | yokobr | it does reconise it! |
| 02:38.48 | yokobr | ¬¬ |
| 02:38.56 | pickcoder | the 8139 should be supported back to 2.4 |
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| 02:39.00 | yokobr | PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter.. |
| 02:39.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | yokobr, see, there is no problem |
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| 02:39.24 | pickcoder | I have a few netgears that use that chip |
| 02:39.37 | yokobr | well, and so how do i enable it? |
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| 02:39.53 | HTT-Bird | yeah...I haven't heard of a single 10/100 Ethernet chip that doesn't have Linux support out-of-thebox |
| 02:40.14 | pickcoder | yokobr: do you see an ethX interface listed if you run "ifconfig -a" |
| 02:41.01 | yokobr | yeap! |
| 02:41.19 | yokobr | eth0 |
| 02:41.46 | yokobr | wait just a min |
| 02:42.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | HTT-Bird, I hadn't either... until I got one recently |
| 02:42.51 | HTT-Bird | CutMeOwnThroat, if there was one, it's the new stuff Microchip Technology put out |
| 02:43.09 | HTT-Bird | but they still are trying to get the hang of Ethernet stuffs, from the errata I've read |
| 02:43.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | using the most recent kernel worked |
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| 02:43.31 | yokobr | well, i'm back |
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| 02:43.33 | yokobr | so |
| 02:43.44 | yokobr | it appears on ifconfig |
| 02:43.44 | HTT-Bird | so...is eth0 showing up to the party? |
| 02:43.46 | HTT-Bird | alright |
| 02:43.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | driver with same name was in earlier kernels also, but wouldn't work with the chip |
| 02:43.53 | HTT-Bird | does it get an IP address? |
| 02:44.12 | HTT-Bird | CutMeOwnThroat, yeah, I had some bad times with some older kernels and the r8169 driver not liking my RTL8111C |
| 02:44.34 | yokobr | not yet.. beacause i have to switch my eth cable from this computer to the trouble one |
| 02:44.41 | yokobr | brb |
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| 02:44.51 | sshc | how do I set audio output to alsa card 1? |
| 02:45.14 | PovAddict | I just now noticed I have no audio at all :( |
| 02:45.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | sings into PovAddicts ear |
| 02:45.44 | PovAddict | what the o.O |
| 02:45.55 | PovAddict | I just looked at KDE settings |
| 02:46.10 | PovAddict | "Preferences for output device for 'Music' category:" |
| 02:46.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | you probably want |
| 02:46.37 | PovAddict | first Internal PC-Speaker (!), then my sound card, then PulseAudio and finally JACK |
| 02:46.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | heh |
| 02:47.02 | PovAddict | what the HELL is that doing at the top of the list? |
| 02:47.15 | yokobr | ok.. It didn't got an ip |
| 02:47.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | "*beep*" |
| 02:47.27 | PovAddict | yeaa |
| 02:47.29 | PovAddict | and now I noticed |
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| 02:47.32 | pickcoder | you've been p0wned by the internal speakernaught |
| 02:47.36 | PovAddict | my hard disk isn't about to die |
| 02:47.39 | yokobr | ok.. It didn't got an ip |
| 02:47.51 | PovAddict | those clicks I heard were my internal speaker trying to produce real sound |
| 02:48.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | so you did have sound |
| 02:48.16 | PovAddict | it really sounded like a dying hard disk... |
| 02:48.47 | pickcoder | yokobr: if you're using DHCP then eth0 should be configured that way in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:48.55 | PovAddict | anyways |
| 02:48.58 | PovAddict | audio card not working :( |
| 02:48.59 | pickcoder | or static IP... |
| 02:49.04 | PovAddict | how do I start troubleshooting? |
| 02:49.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, what did you go and use kde for anyway |
| 02:49.26 | PovAddict | wat |
| 02:49.26 | HTT-Bird | yokobr, yeah, check your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:49.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | !alsa checklist |
| 02:49.27 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels) 3) arts or esound stopped? 4) OSS modules unloaded? 5) speakers on? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. See also <list alsa users>. |
| 02:49.38 | PovAddict | 1. check |
| 02:49.52 | PovAddict | 5. check |
| 02:50.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | well... thank you for sharing - but a) 2 is supposed to come after 1) and b) we can just imagine you checking.... |
| 02:50.38 | sshc | how do I set audio output toa different alsa card? |
| 02:51.16 | HTT-Bird | well, I'm going to give gufw a shot |
| 02:51.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | sshc .asoundrc |
| 02:52.43 | yokobr | heheeh |
| 02:52.46 | yokobr | my bad |
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| 02:52.59 | yokobr | it was my interfaces ;) |
| 02:53.06 | yokobr | thank you guys |
| 02:53.10 | HTT-Bird | no problem. |
| 02:53.14 | yokobr | cya! |
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| 02:54.08 | HTT-Bird | ok, giving gufw+ufw a shot :) |
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| 02:57.17 | davidisko | guys, after booting my debian squeeze and working with hard drive i get this in dmesg http://pastebin.com/m13c965d8 |
| 02:57.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | sshc, look at /usr/share/doc/libasound2/examples/asoundrc.txt.gz |
| 02:57.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | I guess |
| 02:57.42 | davidisko | it's something worng with my harddrive? |
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| 02:59.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | I already told you to fsck it... you did |
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| 03:00.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | there were a bunch of errors |
| 03:00.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | well what do you think? |
| 03:00.25 | davidisko | CutMeOwnThroat: yes, i did fsck. then rebooted few times and it's here again |
| 03:00.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, fsck doesn't help if the disk is physically broken |
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| 03:01.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | you can check with smartmontools if the disk itself thinks it has a load of bad sectors (if it's a recent disk that has S.M.A.R.T) |
| 03:01.28 | jpinx-eeepc | nlooks like a b0rked hdd to me |
| 03:01.45 | davidisko | i'll check it with smartctl holdn |
| 03:01.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | b0rks jpinx-eeepcs hdd |
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| 03:03.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | b0rks jpinx-eeepcs OTHER hdd to be on the safe side |
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| 03:05.41 | Tiders | Does Debian use the same repos as Ubuntu? |
| 03:05.48 | PovAddict | Tiders: no |
| 03:06.17 | PovAddict | Tiders: Ubuntu takes packages from Debian repos and further changes them and puts them on their own repos |
| 03:06.58 | PovAddict | CutMeOwnThroat: well, in KDE settings -> Multimedia, if I click "Test", I hear sound |
| 03:07.03 | PovAddict | CutMeOwnThroat: but aplay doesn't work, even for root |
| 03:07.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | \o/ |
| 03:07.32 | PovAddict | I tried all the different audio output drivers mplayer has and none produces sound |
| 03:07.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | "doesn't work" |
| 03:07.50 | PovAddict | Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono |
| 03:07.52 | PovAddict | but I hear nothing |
| 03:08.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | kde probably starts a daemon... and that might block the sound device |
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| 03:13.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | that should give a permission denied error, though |
| 03:13.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | or asound or whatnot should just hang |
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| 03:13.19 | PovAddict | audio in linux always sux |
| 03:13.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | nah |
| 03:13.33 | PovAddict | there are half a dozen daemons, and half a dozen wrappers around them |
| 03:13.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | look what's using it... fuser /dev/dsp /dev/snd/* |
| 03:13.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | (as root) |
| 03:14.03 | PovAddict | I don't have /dev/dsp |
| 03:14.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | modprobe alsa-oss and you have |
| 03:14.18 | PovAddict | that's what mplayer complains about if it tries to use OSS |
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| 03:14.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually udev should take care of that |
| 03:14.39 | PovAddict | I don't seem to *have* alsa-oss |
| 03:14.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | snd-pcm-oss |
| 03:15.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | they change names as often as other people their underwear |
| 03:15.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | (i.e. once a year or so? eww) |
| 03:15.41 | PovAddict | are alsa and oss two systems that do the same, or are they at totally different levels in the architecture? |
| 03:16.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | they are different implementations for sound... and you can only have one of them |
| 03:16.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | oss stopped being used some time ago, after alsa got into the mainstream kernels |
| 03:16.43 | PovAddict | and alsa-oss is an oss-like interface that actually uses alsa, for compatibility with oss-using apps? |
| 03:17.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | alsa-oss or now alsa-pcm-oss emulate the oss interface |
| 03:17.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes |
| 03:17.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | err, snd-pcm-oss |
| 03:17.18 | PovAddict | but doesn't aplay use alsa? |
| 03:17.26 | PovAddict | so it should work without the oss emulator |
| 03:17.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | it should, indeed |
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| 03:17.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's also a wrapper to force using the alsa devices |
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| 03:18.04 | PovAddict | then wtf is going on... |
| 03:18.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | like... "aoss iceweasel" |
| 03:18.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, fuser /dev/snd/* should show what daemon's using the sound device |
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| 03:19.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | although it was normally the oss device /dev/dsp that only allowed access to one app at a time |
| 03:19.21 | PovAddict | /dev/snd is alsa? |
| 03:19.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | /dev/snd/* |
| 03:19.53 | PovAddict | knotify4 and kmix |
| 03:20.03 | PovAddict | are using "control" devices |
| 03:20.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's the mixer, though (as you see from kmix) |
| 03:20.28 | PovAddict | not the pcm ones |
| 03:20.32 | PovAddict | yeah |
| 03:21.01 | PovAddict | heh |
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| 03:21.08 | PovAddict | controlC0 is pcspkr :P |
| 03:21.15 | PovAddict | kmix has both C0 and C1 open |
| 03:22.04 | PovAddict | when I run aplay, it opens /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p, /dev/snd/timer, and /dev/snd/controlC0 |
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| 03:22.17 | Tiders | How can I get Wireless networking running on Debian? |
| 03:22.18 | PovAddict | C0 is the pcspkr! not the real sound card |
| 03:22.23 | PovAddict | telling from ls -l /dev/snd/by-path/ |
| 03:22.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's why it says 4) OSS modules unloaded? |
| 03:22.54 | mikejet | The rs232 console is outputting lots of goofy escape sequences, even when using a good terminal emulator like SecureCRT on WinXP. (regardless of TERM type) |
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| 03:22.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | there are still some around and you can't really have both |
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| 03:23.13 | PovAddict | I don't have anything oss installed |
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| 03:24.47 | PovAddict | there are two alsa devices, one is pcspkr, the other is my sound card... apps seem to be opening the wrong one by default |
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| 03:25.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't have /dev/snd/by-path/ |
| 03:26.00 | PovAddict | /proc/asound/oss/devices is empty |
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| 03:26.33 | PovAddict | !pastebin |
| 03:26.33 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>. |
| 03:26.51 | PovAddict | http://paste.debian.net/50236/ |
| 03:27.35 | PovAddict | apps are using pcsp unless told explicitly otherwise :/ |
| 03:27.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | "rmmod snd-pcsp"? |
| 03:28.06 | PovAddict | what if I did have two real sound cards? is there no way to change which is used by default? |
| 03:28.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | have a look in /etc/udev/rules.d/ |
| 03:29.06 | PovAddict | one is for CD |
| 03:29.11 | PovAddict | the other is for network |
| 03:29.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | !udev rules |
| 03:29.44 | dpkg | file:///usr/share/doc/udev/writing_udev_rules/index.html, or read it online at http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html |
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| 03:30.09 | Tiders | What do I do if Debian didnt make my main user a sudoer |
| 03:30.15 | Tiders | How can I fix that |
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| 03:30.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | at least I guess udev will create the snd devices nowadays, so that should be the way to go |
| 03:30.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | PovAddict, of course, as I said before - you can also use .asoundrc to make the 2nd soundcard the default |
| 03:31.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | Tiders, use "su" instead? :) |
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| 03:31.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | /etc/sudoers else |
| 03:32.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | never seen much of a point in sudoers, tho |
| 03:32.23 | PovAddict | wtf |
| 03:32.27 | PovAddict | I actually have a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base-blacklist.conf |
| 03:32.35 | PovAddict | that blacklists snd-pcsp |
| 03:33.25 | PovAddict | and alsa-base.conf that has, among other things, |
| 03:33.29 | PovAddict | # Keep snd-pcsp from beeing loaded as first soundcard |
| 03:33.30 | PovAddict | options snd-pcsp index=-2 |
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| 03:37.06 | Nullslash | Hello, I'm trying to add a new kernel to my grub.cfg. Could you tell me what file I should edit ? |
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| 03:40.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 03:40.57 | Nullslash | I have grub2 |
| 03:41.26 | Nullslash | That file for grub1 only |
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| 03:43.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | /usr/share/doc/grub2/README probably knows, then |
| 03:44.23 | nsadmin | or other /usr/share/doc/grub2/* |
| 03:44.33 | Caelum | why do I have permission denied to see a directory owned by me? |
| 03:44.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | or even /usr/share/doc/*grub*/* :) |
| 03:44.53 | Caelum | oh, not executable, duh |
| 03:44.54 | PovAddict | Caelum: what are its permissions? |
| 03:45.06 | PovAddict | just because you own it doesn't mean you can read it |
| 03:45.12 | PovAddict | but it does mean you can make it readable :) |
| 03:45.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | like a book... |
| 03:45.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | "just because you own it doesn't mean you can read it" |
| 03:45.32 | nsadmin | you need +x and +r on a dir |
| 03:45.46 | PovAddict | I find it useful to take write permissions off myself for some files |
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| 03:46.01 | Caelum | ok, I made it 500 and I still can't see it as the user |
| 03:46.05 | Caelum | it's an sshfs mount |
| 03:46.13 | PovAddict | I once typed command > ~/paste.sh instead of command | ~/paste.sh, and lost my handy pastebin script |
| 03:46.48 | nsadmin | oh, either rewrite it... or apt-get install pastebinit |
| 03:47.07 | Caelum | and running sshfs as my user says I have no permissions on /dev/fuse even though I'm in the fuse group |
| 03:47.13 | PovAddict | pastebinit sets 'forever' by default and doesn't let me choose syntax highlighting language - my script did |
| 03:47.53 | nsadmin | file wishlist bugs with diffs... |
| 03:48.08 | nsadmin | then we can all do that! |
| 03:48.27 | Caelum | uses the App::Nopaste::Command CPAN module |
| 03:48.53 | PovAddict | "FATAL: Module snd_pcsp is in use." how do I know who/what is using a kernel module? |
| 03:49.09 | Caelum | PovAddict: lsmod shows which modules modules use |
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| 03:49.22 | PovAddict | that's the one |
| 03:49.49 | Caelum | PovAddict: also check with lsof if any app has the sound device open |
| 03:49.57 | PovAddict | oh right |
| 03:50.00 | PovAddict | kills kmix |
| 03:51.25 | PovAddict | there we go! |
| 03:51.43 | PovAddict | I unloaded all sound modules, reloaded, and they're in the right order (after modifying a modprobe.d file) |
| 03:51.53 | PovAddict | can play Noise.wav now |
| 03:52.18 | Rusty1 | Caelum: did you recently add the user to the fuse group? |
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| 03:53.29 | PovAddict | thanks for your help CutMeOwnThroat |
| 03:53.29 | Caelum | Rusty1: nope, and for some reason /dev/fuse wasn't owned by fuse, but I chmodded it and it worked |
| 03:53.53 | Rusty1 | k |
| 03:53.58 | PovAddict | strikes an item http://pastebin.com/d4621d7d3 |
| 03:54.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | \o/ now you can play Noise.wav as often as you want... |
| 03:54.25 | Caelum | is there any way to rlwrap an ssh session? |
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| 03:54.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | !wdyti Caelum |
| 03:54.49 | dpkg | Why don't you just try it, Caelum? |
| 03:55.02 | Caelum | I did, it doesn't work |
| 03:55.09 | PovAddict | !doesn't work |
| 03:55.10 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
| 03:55.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's not such a splendid idea... |
| 03:55.57 | Caelum | if it worked, would I be asking about it? |
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| 03:56.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | if you know it doesn't work, though, why do you ask? :) |
| 03:56.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | ok, fair enough |
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| 03:58.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | what about rlwrap -a ssh host |
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| 03:59.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | Caelum, ^^^ |
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| 04:12.10 | Caelum | CutMeOwnThroat: thank you! |
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| 04:17.07 | Orbixx | What's the recommended method to update Etch to Lenny? |
| 04:17.15 | Orbixx | Damn it, topic. |
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| 04:31.08 | m4t | anyone seen a regression in the new smarty packages? |
| 04:31.35 | m4t | on etch |
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| 04:32.26 | N3tw0rK | howdy all |
| 04:33.28 | centHOGG | N3tw0rK: mm |
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| 04:34.21 | l3x | Hydroxide, how do you check your version of java? |
| 04:34.31 | PovAddict | java -version? |
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| 04:36.20 | N3tw0rK | is it possible to boot root nfs with a nic kernel module rather than native |
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| 04:43.47 | N3tw0rK | wishes BroadCom would hand over the source |
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| 04:45.19 | somiaj | N3tw0rK: isn't that what initrd kernels are for. So you can have modules loaded during boot. I know it works for fs, I'd assume it cna be used for your nic |
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| 04:46.14 | somiaj | N3tw0rK: I'd have no idea how to go about it, but that is where I would look. |
| 04:47.20 | N3tw0rK | somiaj: im compiling a kerrighed kernel, wonder if i can make it load the modules before booting nfs....no because it wouldnt know where the modules are without its rootfs |
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| 04:48.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmm |
| 04:48.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | !initramfs |
| 04:48.39 | dpkg | from memory, initramfs is the new <initrd>. See http://www.ducea.com/2006/10/10/debian-etch-kernels/ for Sarge and Etch kernel differences (forward looking as we know it prior to etch's release), or ask me about <initramfs debug>. http://wiki.debian.org/initramfs |
| 04:48.43 | somiaj | N3tw0rK: I thought that is what initrd kernels did, alowed you to have some idea about kernel modules before the rootfs was mounted, so you can load ide/sta drivers, etc. |
| 04:48.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | someone know enough to update that a bit? |
| 04:49.12 | alastair | does anyone know what version of PHP the latest version of Debian comes with? is it 5.2 or 5.3? |
| 04:49.30 | somiaj | alastair: packages.debian.org/php5 |
| 04:49.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | I'm specially a bit doubtful what what the status of initramfs vs initrd is |
| 04:49.52 | alastair | somiaj: cheers, thank you |
| 04:50.27 | N3tw0rK | CutMeOwnThroat: im looking into that |
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| 04:58.33 | N3tw0rK | well its got to be somthing else the kernel says it has support for bnx2..... its pxe booting, but will not mount the nfsroot |
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| 05:02.28 | gh0st3r | ive created a nice firewall script using iptables but now whenever I try and shutdown the server it hits "Stopping portmap daemon" but does not go any further, it just hangs... |
| 05:02.29 | gh0st3r | any ideas? |
| 05:04.12 | somiaj | gh0st3r: check the script that shutsdown the daemon and see if it is trying to use a port you have blocked and is just hanging waiting for a reply. |
| 05:04.40 | somiaj | my guess is you blocked a port which is used for nfs and the portmap daemon |
| 05:05.21 | gh0st3r | somiaj, hmmm.... if i opened ALL traffic from 127.0.0.1 and 127.0.1.1... would that stop this problem? |
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| 05:06.47 | somiaj | gh0st3r: I don't use nfs, but the portmap daemon is part of the nfs system. If you aren't using nfs, you should just use update-rc.d and remove the startup/shutdown scripts for it. |
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| 05:08.21 | somiaj | gh0st3r: but I got this form a quick google search cause I was courious. you could also write a start/shutdown script in which you just flush the iptables before the shutdown sequence if you wanted an easy fix. |
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| 05:17.21 | gh0st3r | im setting up an iptables firewall on my linux server, is there any major security risk in allowing all traffic from 127.0.0.1, 127.0.1.1 and loopback interfaces? |
| 05:17.52 | gh0st3r | samiaj, where should my shutdown script go? like what scripts are called before the portmap daemon? |
| 05:17.56 | somiaj | gh0st3r: only from local users. |
| 05:18.37 | somiaj | gh0st3r: you will put the script in to /etc/init.d/ it should have a 'start', 'restart', and 'stop' option. You then use update-rc.d to put links to it in the /etc/rc?.d run levels |
| 05:18.52 | somiaj | gh0st3r: read /etc/init.d/README for more info on how debian deals with start/stop scripts. |
| 05:18.59 | somiaj | gh0st3r: also look at /etc/init.d/skeleton |
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| 05:20.04 | gh0st3r | somiaj, thnaks |
| 05:20.09 | gh0st3r | somiaj, thanks |
| 05:20.32 | somiaj | gh0st3r: though if you have a local user on your system, you have other security risks to worry about than open ports, so blocking 127.0.0.1 doesn't really add any more security. |
| 05:21.18 | gh0st3r | somiaj, i dont have local users on my server... |
| 05:21.47 | somiaj | gh0st3r: then you don't need to worry about blocking 127.0.0.1 ports. |
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| 05:22.10 | gh0st3r | somiaj, what do people normally do in this situation? wanting to set up a firewall on servers... |
| 05:22.14 | somiaj | gh0st3r: most firewalls I have seen don't touch the loopback address. |
| 05:22.42 | somiaj | gh0st3r: I'm no extpert so take anything I say with a grain of salt. |
| 05:23.02 | gh0st3r | somiaj, its ok |
| 05:23.33 | gh0st3r | unblocking 127.0.0.1 and 127.0.1.1 does nothing... anything else it might be? |
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| 05:26.09 | AshtonK | Hey, I'm getting the "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" for the squeeze servers despite my best effort to get the correct gpg keys. |
| 05:26.09 | AshtonK | Any ideas? |
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| 05:26.17 | somiaj | gh0st3r: only your machine can access the poorts ont he loop back device. So the only thing you have to worry about for 127.0.0.1 is local users. |
| 05:27.04 | nsadmin | AshtonK: ok |
| 05:27.21 | N3tw0rK | AshtonK: make sure your date is halfway close |
| 05:27.34 | AshtonK | ~1 minute off. |
| 05:28.22 | N3tw0rK | AshtonK: then somthings wrong with the gpg keys :) |
| 05:28.23 | AshtonK | I've also downloaded the latest debian-keyring.deb from packages.debian.org |
| 05:28.48 | AshtonK | But, apparently my only key is for backports. |
| 05:28.59 | AshtonK | (That's all I'm seeing in gpg). |
| 05:29.15 | AshtonK | What's the command to add them? (Are they mirror specific?) |
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| 05:32.22 | aaron | hey i have a question i have a partition that I've deleted it. i have no more disk space i'm using gparted but how do i move the partition to /dev/sda3 ? |
| 05:32.27 | aaron | or whatever |
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| 05:32.52 | AshtonK | Annoying, I'm not getting the actual key fingerprint when I try to apt-get update. Just the errors on attempted upgrade. |
| 05:33.20 | aaron | any ideas? |
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| 05:36.00 | alanp | I have eth0 with my main IP and eth0:1 with a virtual IP, all my outbound connections are going through eth0:1, what's up with that? |
| 05:36.02 | AshtonK | Hrm, is the signing key for Squeeze different from Lenny? |
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| 05:36.41 | nsadmin | I would think so |
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| 05:38.37 | Oleg_ | hello? |
| 05:38.49 | cocowingo | anybody in here interested or worked with SVMs |
| 05:38.54 | Oleg_ | I need help with my apache running on my Debian system |
| 05:39.05 | cocowingo | anybody know itunes alternatives to play apple aac files? |
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| 05:39.28 | cocowingo | Anybody know of a chatbot that has some sort of reward/punishment feature? |
| 05:39.31 | neoice | Oleg_: more specific? |
| 05:40.06 | cocowingo | any idea where ports 1230 & 1232 are coming? are those some defaults if port is defined incorrectly? |
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| 05:41.05 | alanp | where does debian pull ip route info from? |
| 05:41.13 | Oleg_ | I guess I have a mod_rewrite module disabled |
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| 05:42.28 | cocowingo | And what do you mean by score? Using your analogy does that score of mean each answer has a chance of being correct? anyone can recommend a freeware video convertor which can convert videos to mpegavi resolution x fps bitrrate ks? Anyone can recommend a good multifunction printer? anyone can recommend an advanced tutorial for OOP specially c ? anyone can recommend any good mpeg encoder card that is compatible to linux? anyone can said me in which file |
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| 05:43.16 | cocowingo | one good in shell scripting ? anyone good on cmake? anyone good with arguements towards scaling? anyone good with crosscompiling? anyone good with GAs that feels like reviewing my assignment? anyone good with getting ffmpeg to work with vlc? anyone good with neural nets? anyone good with regression? what assumptions for a dummy variable do i need to look for for the model to work? anyone good with stats? anyone good with vlm here? anyone got access to |
| 05:43.47 | cocowingo | anyone here know much about the subject of reinforcement learning? anyone here know much about streaming video live? anyone here know much about streaming video live? anyone here know much about machine learning? anyone here know much about the subject of reinforcement learning? anyone here know much about machine learning? anyone here know much about machine learning? anyone here know much about machine learning? anyone here know much about truffles? |
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| 05:44.03 | donspaulding | I'm totally new to developing in C on linux. I'm trying to #include "SDL.h", but gcc is complaining that it can't find it. I've got libsdl1.2-dev installed, what am I missing? |
| 05:44.22 | cocowingo | btw i dont understand macos x is on epsilon ? Btw I do value your thoughts as a person and one who has a keen mind but I that doesnt mean I have to agree or represent something I dont believe in does it? Btw if programs need the same so will it be loaded once or twice in memory? btw if cf is not for natural language what is then? btw if i can make a patch would you guys agree that the mappings be configurable? btw if I copy and trim a bit a mplayer fil |
| 05:44.46 | mhymn | dpkg: +tell cocowingo -about repeat |
| 05:44.46 | dpkg | told cocowingo about repeat. |
| 05:45.16 | cocowingo | Hello all... I had a quick question about the --miface option... is this supported in 0.8.6a? |
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| 05:45.43 | cocowingo | hello all, i have a .ts file (video=h264/audio=ac3) and i want ot transcode this to mkv (video=mp4/audio/ac3). Is it possible ?? |
| 05:45.47 | cocowingo | hello all, I get the error [open of `dvd:///dev/sr0' failed: could not create access: no access module matched "dvd"] google doesnt have a lot on this, Ideas? |
| 05:45.55 | cocowingo | hello all. now I realized that this french law can cause the End of VLC... have any decisions been made here within the videolan community? |
| 05:45.58 | cocowingo | hello all. someone detected stability improvment in the 0.9 web plugins ? |
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| 05:46.12 | mhymn | !ops cocowingo flood |
| 05:46.12 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: mhymn complains about: cocowingo flood |
| 05:46.14 | jvargas | hi |
| 05:46.24 | cocowingo | I wouldnt have to deal with all this if someone would just fix live555.cpp to handle broken rtsp servers!! |
| 05:46.30 | cocowingo | i would make a fortune so my bragging would have substance! |
| 05:46.39 | cocowingo | i can't explain it.. therefore it is god! |
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| 05:47.27 | cocowingo | ]$ wc -l freenodelogs.txt |
| 05:47.28 | somiaj | donspaulding: are you calling the include correctaly, i.e. if you dpkg -L libsdl1.2-dev is there a header file by that name in the list of files in that package? (just a thought) |
| 05:47.28 | cocowingo | 2054632 freenodelogs.txt |
| 05:47.42 | cocowingo | over 2 million freenode logs |
| 05:47.48 | cocowingo | people ask soo many fucking questions the same way |
| 05:47.50 | becky | donspaulding, u need to use #include <SDL.h> if it is located in /usr/include or #include <foo/SDL.h> if it is located at /usr/include/foo/SDL.h |
| 05:48.18 | c0nfus3d | hi all - installed ntop using apt-get install - i dont want ntop to start every time automatically - how can i disable ntop from starting automatically? |
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| 05:48.42 | becky | donspaulding, first locate the desired header file |
| 05:49.08 | cocowingo | ]$ cat freenodelogs.txt | grep -i "^hi all" | wc -l |
| 05:49.08 | cocowingo | 728 |
| 05:49.29 | cocowingo | not the most common way of starting the conversation though |
| 05:51.00 | becky | cocowingo, what is the most common way of starting a conversation? |
| 05:51.28 | donspaulding | somiaj: cool, that showed me that SDL.h was in /usr/include/SDL/ |
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| 05:51.43 | donspaulding | becky: and your advice set me straight on the include syntax, thanks to you both! |
| 05:52.01 | donspaulding | wanders off to find out about "undefined references" |
| 05:52.38 | nsadmin | use of a variable that's not visible |
| 05:52.59 | donspaulding | nsadmin: not visible == out of scope? |
| 05:53.06 | nsadmin | well sure |
| 05:53.16 | nsadmin | not defined in the scope of use |
| 05:53.17 | donspaulding | because I can see it on my screen. |
| 05:53.27 | nsadmin | its use? |
| 05:53.39 | donspaulding | nsadmin: no, was joking, poorly. |
| 05:53.59 | nsadmin | oh, that was over my head! |
| 05:54.51 | nsadmin | like, { { int a; } ... a ... } |
| 05:55.18 | nsadmin | the use of a in the enclosing block is free |
| 05:55.40 | nsadmin | it would have to be defined outside the outer block |
| 05:55.47 | donspaulding | nsadmin: well, I'm getting it for every SDL function, do I need to tell gcc where to find the .c file or something? |
| 05:55.47 | nsadmin | to be bound |
| 05:56.04 | nsadmin | oh, undefined reference to function |
| 05:56.18 | donspaulding | nsadmin: yeah |
| 05:56.34 | nsadmin | during link step? |
| 05:56.58 | donspaulding | just types "gcc pong.c" and hopes gcc is magical. |
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| 05:57.24 | donspaulding | is "ld" the linker? |
| 05:57.37 | melissa | so If I have a webcam that I can't find a model number on, but I have the lsusb output of it how would I find the proper drivers for it? |
| 05:59.32 | donspaulding | ah, gcc -lSDL pong.c |
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| 06:00.48 | nsadmin | or gcc pong.c -lSDL |
| 06:01.11 | nsadmin | not sure the order matters, but used to be, the libs go after |
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| 06:02.34 | donspaulding | nsadmin: good to know, thanks. |
| 06:02.38 | nsadmin | somethign about, build the symbol table for pong.o, and then the lib comes, and the free refs in pong.o are resolved |
| 06:02.59 | donspaulding | nsadmin: it seemed to work my way, at least my error messages are printing out. |
| 06:03.21 | donspaulding | thinks he'll be spending plenty of time with "man gcc" |
| 06:03.38 | nsadmin | you'll definitely want the info page |
| 06:03.50 | ctmjr | melissa: just google the id number more than likely you will find the model number |
| 06:03.51 | Dewi | I was about to say "at least it's not the info page" |
| 06:04.06 | Dewi | spending a lot of time with "info" causes ulcers and blindness |
| 06:04.09 | Dewi | or is that smoking? |
| 06:04.16 | nsadmin | which, if not available in debian main, is available in the original gcc source |
| 06:04.16 | becky | I guess it uses the standard getopt function so the order doesn't matter to parse options and parameters before then order them in a correct way. But that's a guess of mine. |
| 06:05.00 | nsadmin | it could do that yes |
| 06:05.22 | nsadmin | but for some cases not sure it knows how to guess right |
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| 06:07.28 | d1b | nsadmin: gcc doc is in non-free :) |
| 06:07.42 | c0nfus3d | hi all - installed ntop using apt-get install - i dont want ntop to start every time automatically - how can i disable ntop from starting automatically? |
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| 06:08.42 | becky | !tell c0nfus3d about repeat |
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| 06:09.28 | mhymn | c0nfus3d: /msg dpkg rcconf |
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| 06:09.40 | StrangeCharm | how can i convert a dm-crypt volume from using passphrase authentication to mount at boot, to using key-files instead? |
| 06:09.46 | c0nfus3d | thanks :) |
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| 06:23.49 | DisasteR | hi |
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| 06:24.34 | DisasteR | i'm looking for some documentation on how to make a debian package of a php web based application |
| 06:24.49 | DisasteR | what is the good method |
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| 06:25.38 | DisasteR | just get the file on place get the apache and php module required |
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| 06:25.48 | Boohbah | DisasteR: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/ |
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| 06:26.22 | DisasteR | and let the user use the install page of the web app or use debconf to configure database and making all automatized for the user ? |
| 06:26.28 | Xgates | I'm trying to search for the kernel source, can't seem to remember the cmd? ---> aptitude search kernel? |
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| 06:28.12 | DisasteR | so wath is the good method ? |
| 06:28.12 | Xgates | anyone please? |
| 06:28.20 | DisasteR | what* |
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| 06:31.08 | Xgates | darn it I thought it was 'aptitude search kernel source' |
| 06:31.16 | Xgates | bangs head |
| 06:31.25 | Xgates | I mean kernel-source |
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| 06:34.33 | Xgates | ok linux-source sheesh I thought I did that before @_@ |
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| 06:46.05 | mhymn | DisasteR: haven't you been told about '/msg dpkg nmg' before? |
| 06:46.33 | syslq | What is best choice for anonymous http proxy on debian, very low traffic? |
| 06:46.52 | syslq | Very low resources on server too |
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| 06:48.14 | syslq | clear |
| 06:48.43 | NfNitLoop | *zap* |
| 06:48.53 | NfNitLoop | Still no pulse! |
| 06:49.02 | NfNitLoop | we're losing him! |
| 06:49.46 | melissa | Adidos My friends. |
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| 06:57.21 | StrangeCharm | syslq, how anonymous? |
| 06:57.41 | asrekdal | yeah well as how honest |
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| 06:58.07 | StrangeCharm | asrekdal, what? |
| 06:58.27 | asrekdal | nickserv message |
| 06:58.38 | asrekdal | not sure if visable please advise |
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| 07:08.44 | LtL | asrekdal: what are you attempting to do? |
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| 07:11.03 | senti | hello, people! does anyone knows, why there is no current Debian weekly build? |
| 07:11.12 | senti | frp-server is void |
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| 07:12.41 | senti | i mean http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-dvd/ |
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| 07:17.38 | senti | no ideas? |
| 07:17.48 | senti | i just want a current weekly build :-( |
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| 07:23.49 | the-dude | senti: take the last one and dist-upgrade |
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| 07:25.14 | nirupama | hi all |
| 07:25.14 | asrekdal | hello |
| 07:25.17 | nirupama | while using ant command for building I am getting the following error -keep-going |
| 07:25.23 | nirupama | hi asrekdal |
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| 07:25.50 | nirupama | while using ant command for building I am getting the following error strip: Unable to recognise the format of the input file |
| 07:25.50 | nirupama | what does that mean |
| 07:25.52 | asrekdal | not sure from my end |
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| 07:26.42 | nirupama | anybody |
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| 07:27.11 | asrekdal | although wish as deisire to help further although what type is input file |
| 07:27.57 | koollman | nirupama: might be a syntax error in the xml file. Might be anything else, it's not a very precise error message |
| 07:27.58 | senti | the-dude: sadly, i have not squeeze installed. just an ISO-archive |
| 07:28.00 | asrekdal | pardon what although type of file is :question |
| 07:28.36 | senti | the-dude: does that mean, there will no ISO-files of weekly builds anymore? |
| 07:29.27 | nirupama | koollman, libcurl library error |
| 07:29.44 | nirupama | koollman, [exec] strip: Unable to recognise the format of the input file `/usr/src/redhat/myroot/usr/local/dimdim-4.5/Dependencies/libcurl/Debug/VS2003/curllib.lib(./release/qssl.obj)' |
| 07:29.50 | asrekdal | xml only has error by interpretation |
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| 07:31.08 | asrekdal | although pardon the reference |
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| 07:36.47 | asrekdal | nirupama: curl lib unable to recognize file type |
| 07:36.59 | nirupama | asrekdal, so what we need to do |
| 07:37.11 | senti | are there some mirrors of debian weekly builds? |
| 07:37.46 | asrekdal | nirupama: yellow text hard to read comma replace with colon |
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| 07:38.41 | nirupama | asrekdal:so what we need to do |
| 07:38.44 | Xgates | where can I find 'locate' and 'updatedb' in what pkg? |
| 07:39.06 | asrekdal | nirupama: is koolman something is am missing |
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| 07:39.50 | greg6 | hello anyone in boracay now? |
| 07:40.13 | asrekdal | greg6: now indicates question |
| 07:40.31 | greg6 | hello |
| 07:40.36 | asrekdal | hello |
| 07:40.50 | greg6 | anyone in boracay now |
| 07:40.59 | asrekdal | mocking was not an option although slipped |
| 07:41.18 | greg6 | anyone in boracay |
| 07:41.44 | asrekdal | precept: patience is an option |
| 07:41.55 | radoe | Xgates: would it surprise you that one of the packages providing locate ist just named 'locate'? |
| 07:42.35 | greg6 | hello anyone? |
| 07:43.02 | asrekdal | lag: an option by means of ignorance |
| 07:43.10 | Xgates | radoe: well I hadn't quite considered that, the brain was stuck on why findutils wasn't working hehe ;p |
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| 07:49.49 | asrekdal | radoe: alias allow simplicity |
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| 07:50.12 | radoe | asrekdal: ? |
| 07:50.14 | asrekdal | radoe: alias allows simplicity |
| 07:50.28 | radoe | asrekdal: what? |
| 07:50.56 | asrekdal | radoe: an interjection to a previous message concerning naming |
| 07:51.15 | asrekdal | radoe: aliasing allows simplicity |
| 07:54.16 | asrekdal | radoe: aliasing allows temporary simplicity |
| 07:54.24 | inckie | http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl8_chat.htm <-- isn't this program included in debian ? |
| 07:56.15 | radoe | inckie: it's part of ppp package. |
| 07:56.34 | inckie | thx :) |
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| 08:06.51 | Oleg_ | I have a question. |
| 08:07.44 | Oleg_ | How do I gain a root access to an ftp server? |
| 08:08.05 | Oleg_ | if the password is the same as the password of a user on that ftp server |
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| 08:11.26 | nsadmin | perhaps the ftp server has been told to not allow root logins... aside from which... you're typing your root password to an ftp server ?! |
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| 08:12.49 | Oleg_ | no |
| 08:13.10 | WormFood | wow! people are still using FTP? that predates tcp/ip! |
| 08:13.34 | Oleg_ | I am trying to login as ssh, but get the error: |
| 08:13.53 | Oleg_ | this account only allows ftp connections |
| 08:14.08 | WormFood | define "root access to and ftp server" |
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| 08:14.13 | WormFood | and=an |
| 08:14.28 | valdyn | Oleg_: root login is often disallowed in ssh |
| 08:14.41 | WormFood | if someone is smart, they'll disable root access in ssh |
| 08:14.51 | Oleg_ | I mean, I wanna change the permissions of the files when logging in through ftp |
| 08:15.02 | WormFood | ok, that is easy enough to do |
| 08:15.03 | WormFood | chmod |
| 08:15.15 | Oleg_ | but I get permission denied when trying to do that |
| 08:15.19 | valdyn | Oleg_: log in as user, then run "su" |
| 08:15.30 | WormFood | are you owner of the files? |
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| 08:16.23 | Oleg_ | well, my friend is |
| 08:16.28 | Oleg_ | I am doing this for him |
| 08:16.54 | WormFood | I'm sorry, I can't help more, I need to go...clearly you do not understand the underlying concepts here. |
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| 08:17.31 | Oleg_ | su |
| 08:17.31 | Oleg_ | Store unique on |
| 08:17.34 | Oleg_ | what is this? |
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| 08:18.46 | yacyac | i have accidently killed the docking panel in xfce.. how do i get it back |
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| 08:20.38 | kraut | moin |
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| 08:23.39 | tdn | Is there a way to see which packages that depend on a given package? |
| 08:24.13 | majhool | apt-cache rdepends |
| 08:24.19 | tdn | Say, I would like to check which installed packages that depend on xterm |
| 08:24.32 | sash_ | tdn: apt-cache depends and apt-cache rdepends (both directions) |
| 08:24.33 | yacyac | my panel is not working i had accidently killed it.. is there a way to get it back ? |
| 08:25.03 | tdn | sash_, thanks! |
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| 08:26.07 | sash_ | yacyac: restart it via console? |
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| 08:26.45 | yacyac | ok |
| 08:26.47 | yacyac | lemme try |
| 08:26.48 | yacyac | brb |
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| 08:27.41 | rjd_ | for how long will there be security patches/updates for etch? |
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| 08:28.43 | mhymn | rjd_: /msg dpkg etch |
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| 08:37.39 | ddfreyne | Hi. How can I enable ACLs? I found http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/acl.htm which tells me to check the /boot/config-2.6.* file, but that file is empty here⦠|
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| 08:38.47 | the-dude | ddfreyne: did you install a custom kernel? or perhaps using a xen virtual? |
| 08:39.00 | ddfreyne | the-dude: it's a VPS |
| 08:39.12 | ddfreyne | I believe it runs Xen, but i'm not 100% sure |
| 08:39.17 | ddfreyne | (Slicehost, FYI) |
| 08:39.28 | the-dude | ddfreyne: then you don't have a kernel installed :) |
| 08:39.31 | ddfreyne | (yep, Xen) |
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| 08:40.05 | ddfreyne | the-dude: now I wonder how to check whether ACLs are supported, without trying to enable them in /etc/fstab, rebootign and then finding out it's not supported :) |
| 08:40.18 | ddfreyne | (at least I assume I have to reboot, because I need ACLs on the boot volume) |
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| 08:41.12 | Elvis-2 | hej guys, how can I extract the contents of a .deb? |
| 08:41.17 | Elvis-2 | I need the init script of one |
| 08:41.23 | ddfreyne | the-dude: any clue? |
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| 08:41.47 | the-dude | Elvis-2: dpkg -x $deb . |
| 08:41.56 | the-dude | Elvis-2: or use mc |
| 08:42.24 | gothenburg | Vi beklagar, men vi har för närvarande tekniska problem på www.gp.se. |
| 08:42.26 | gothenburg | Vissa tjänster kan du komma åt: |
| 08:42.26 | the-dude | ddfreyne: which kernel does your dumu use ? |
| 08:42.28 | gothenburg | fel kanal |
| 08:42.37 | vlt | Hello. Is there a Debian repository with newer hplip packages? |
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| 08:43.11 | ddfreyne | the-dude: 2.6.24 |
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| 08:43.55 | the-dude | ddfreyne: I installed a "kernel" in my domU and it has acl support, but it is 2.6.26 |
| 08:44.26 | Elvis-2 | the-dude where can i find the openais init script debian uses with the openais package? |
| 08:44.28 | ddfreyne | the-dude: well, http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/acl.htm mentions 2.6.15 and ACL support |
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| 08:46.10 | Elvis-2 | can anyone tell me where I can find debians init scripts . I hand build something which didn't come with an init script |
| 08:46.14 | Elvis-2 | want to use debians one |
| 08:46.25 | liable | Elvis-2: /etc/init.d |
| 08:46.44 | Elvis-2 | liable where can I find it before it gets installeed |
| 08:46.52 | ddfreyne | the-dude: will ask on slicehost⦠they should know more about this there |
| 08:47.13 | the-dude | ddfreyne: do you have more then one partition? |
| 08:47.20 | ddfreyne | the-dude: nope, just one |
| 08:47.42 | the-dude | I doubt it will do any harm if enable, let me test that |
| 08:47.44 | liable | Elvis-2: i'm a bit confused, do you mean the one that didn't get built? |
| 08:47.54 | ddfreyne | the-dude: I'd rather be safe than sorry :) |
| 08:47.59 | liable | Elvis-2: there is a skeleton script in that dir too, for making your own |
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| 08:49.51 | Elvis-2 | liable I mean the one debian makes |
| 08:49.59 | Elvis-2 | I want to have that one :) |
| 08:50.05 | liable | Elvis-2: for what package? |
| 08:50.29 | liable | i still dont understand what you mean.. why dont you just install the debian package? |
| 08:50.42 | the-dude | ddfreyne: it works overhere :) |
| 08:50.59 | the-dude | added the acl option, did a reboot and now it is enabled |
| 08:51.09 | ddfreyne | the-dude: hm, alright |
| 08:51.14 | ddfreyne | 99% sure that it'll work over here too |
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| 08:53.29 | the-dude | ddfreyne: you should be ok :) |
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| 08:54.50 | ddfreyne | the-dude: works! thanks :) |
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| 08:58.22 | djp` | i keep getting the following message appear in my console at random times when playing audio, "diff=10000 >= 10000 buf_bytes." does anyone know how i can prevent this? |
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| 08:59.25 | MarkGil | hi, I am trying to setup spamassassin, and trying to work out how to integrate http://www.malware.com.br/cgi/submit?action=list_sa into my sa-update script |
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| 09:00.43 | the-dude | ddfreyne: no worries :) |
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| 09:04.41 | nsadmin | how would I find out for sure which iceweasel plugin is leaking? |
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| 09:05.48 | senti | hello, people, again. are somebody knows, why the official page for Debian Squeeze weekly build is empty? where i can get the ISOs of the weekly builds? |
| 09:05.48 | majhool | nsadmin: disable all but one and let iceweasel run until you'd expect there to be a leak |
| 09:06.14 | majhool | nsadmin: move to the next plugin if not... |
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| 09:06.29 | nsadmin | hmm, good suggestion... could I also split em in half? |
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| 09:07.13 | majhool | nsadmin: yeah, do a kind of binary search |
| 09:07.19 | nsadmin | not sure I'm running that many plugins anyway |
| 09:07.22 | babilen | nsadmin: As in: "doing a binary se .... nvm |
| 09:07.26 | majhool | haha |
| 09:07.41 | babilen | majhool: Too late to the party.... |
| 09:07.46 | majhool | i learned a computer science yesterday so i know about the binary search |
| 09:08.10 | babilen | majhool: Learn you a computer science for great good! |
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| 09:08.18 | majhool | !!!!! |
| 09:08.18 | dpkg | "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
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| 09:08.57 | majhool | looks like i got ripped on by dpkg |
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| 09:10.09 | majhool | nsadmin: you might also investigate valgrind. |
| 09:10.42 | nsadmin | !info valgrind |
| 09:11.15 | [M4rk0] | Hello, |
| 09:11.22 | dpkg | valgrind: (A memory debugger and profiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 1:3.5.0-2 (sid), Packaged size: 25353 kB, Installed size: 62972 kB |
| 09:11.45 | [M4rk0] | After aptitude update, aptitude safe-upgrade my system wont boot anymore... "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init" |
| 09:11.48 | [M4rk0] | What to do? |
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| 09:11.56 | LuciusMare | hello |
| 09:12.01 | [M4rk0] | !qotd0 |
| 09:12.01 | dpkg | <toggle> by the way I don't have man installed.. |
| 09:12.08 | nsadmin | if I were developing the plugin maybe I'd go a step or two further on valgrind |
| 09:12.09 | LuciusMare | i am in an interesting situation... |
| 09:12.22 | nsadmin | LuciusMare: congratulations! |
| 09:12.26 | majhool | nsadmin: yeah, i think it's pretty inudstrial strength |
| 09:12.30 | majhool | industrial even |
| 09:12.37 | LuciusMare | nsadmin: thanks |
| 09:12.48 | LuciusMare | nsadmin: or you could just wait until i would type it all |
| 09:13.08 | simonrvn | [M4rk0]: reinstall sysvinit. boot rescue cd (debian install cd), mount and chroot to your system, and reinstall that package. |
| 09:13.17 | nsadmin | what fun would that be?! |
| 09:13.20 | [M4rk0] | simonrvn, okay thanx |
| 09:14.33 | djp` | would my message issue be a kernel message? if so, how do you suppress these messages in console? |
| 09:14.59 | simonrvn | [M4rk0]: have fun |
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| 09:16.40 | LuciusMare | I have an old box here,its a compaq notebook,and i suspect it to have broken HDD (it says operation system not found,but this could be also corrupted fs,not disk) so i wanted to boot linux,and get from logs what is wrong.But,i have got only debian installer CD here,a floppy disk and a failed attempt for a system on an external hard drive.I wanted to chroot to that external disk,and write gPXE to the floppy drive (my box where |
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| 09:17.00 | LuciusMare | But i cant chroot without a working system |
| 09:17.08 | LuciusMare | So i dropped to the shell from debian installer |
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| 09:17.35 | LuciusMare | And i cant mount the disk,because the shell - system does not know the ext fs.How can i make it mount it? |
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| 09:21.15 | babilen | LuciusMare: You should use a real live CD. I like grml but Knoppix and/or Debian Live might suit *you* better. |
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| 09:21.34 | LuciusMare | babilen: yes,that is the problem,i have got only cd reader and debian installer. |
| 09:21.56 | LuciusMare | babilen: and the box cant boot from usb,only floppy,and the floppy is accessible from the box only |
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| 09:22.14 | LuciusMare | *only from floppy,cd and hdd |
| 09:22.31 | babilen | LuciusMare: Can you do a PXE boot and have access to a DHCP server? |
| 09:23.03 | LuciusMare | babilen: that is what i wanted to do |
| 09:23.42 | LuciusMare | babilen: but i cant,because there is only cd reader,box cant boot from usb,and the only left is floppy,which is accessible only from the box |
| 09:23.42 | babilen | LuciusMare: So your NIC can't boot from the net without said gPXE (what is that?) floppy? |
| 09:24.23 | LuciusMare | babilen: nope |
| 09:24.35 | LuciusMare | babilen: gpxe = http://boot.kernel.org |
| 09:25.32 | tellurian | !pastebin |
| 09:25.32 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>. |
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| 09:25.56 | tellurian | !pastebinit |
| 09:25.57 | dpkg | somebody said pastebinit was a command-line tool (packaged for Lenny, Squeeze) to send data to a <pastebin>; especially convenient if you don't have a graphical interface. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list" ; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit" |
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| 09:26.18 | babilen | tellurian: What do you want LuciusMare to paste? |
| 09:26.21 | nsadmin | or /msg dpkg pastebinit |
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| 09:26.52 | babilen | LuciusMare: Why don't you just do a new install and throw away the "failed attempt" ? |
| 09:27.33 | tellurian | no, I am new to the channel, and am learning what's appropriate. my request of the bot was not directed at or in reference to LuciusMare. Apologies for the confusion |
| 09:28.13 | simonrvn | !msg the bot |
| 09:28.14 | dpkg | Please message the bot... not doing so could be considered an unnecessary flood. Instead of typing "!tell <your nick> about <topic>" you can just type "/msg dpkg <topic>". See also <selftell>. Also visit http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/DpkgBot to learn how to effectively use the factoids database, or ask me about <bot help> <help> |
| 09:28.24 | babilen | tellurian: You can query dpkg in private (/query dpkg, /msg dpkg tell me about newtWithches) |
| 09:28.29 | tellurian | thanks :-) |
| 09:28.36 | LuciusMare | babilen: well,i installed from chroot,and there is only windows in there,the only box i can use for linux is that old notebook |
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| 09:29.06 | LuciusMare | babilen: and,it is a pretty much special instalation,since i want it to be portable system |
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| 09:30.15 | LuciusMare | babilen: i am not sure if you just understood ,e |
| 09:30.16 | LuciusMare | me |
| 09:30.21 | gothenburg | :D |
| 09:30.44 | babilen | LuciusMare: What do you want to do? I understood that you tried to install Debian, but the install somehow failed. So you have an unbootable system. I would suggest one of the following: (i) Complete reinstall (ii) Get a decent live CD somewhere (grml, debian live, knoppix) (iii) Go somewhere where you can do a PXE boot and get a Debian installer via TFTP |
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| 09:31.34 | babilen | LuciusMare: I guess I don't quite understood. What do you mean by "portable system" ? Why don't you just do a new install with the install CD you have around? |
| 09:31.42 | LuciusMare | babilen: okay,so once more,i have old box,with borken hdd,i want to boot linux there,and the only way to boot is PXE. |
| 09:32.14 | nsadmin | perhaps it might be easier to replace the hd |
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| 09:32.23 | nsadmin | and get a cd writer |
| 09:32.26 | LuciusMare | babilen: then i have an external hdd with failed attempt to install a portable system (fully functional,but cant boot,i do not know how to make it boot from disk by labels) |
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| 09:33.28 | LuciusMare | so i wanted to get a gPXE floppy - boot over http,but i can access floppies only from that old box,so i wanted to chroot to that external hard drive,download gpxe and boot from it |
| 09:34.15 | LuciusMare | the only way to get a shell where can i chroot from is debian installer,which does not know ext fs,so i can not mount and chroot to it |
| 09:34.31 | tarzeau | LuciusMare: there's other live cds? |
| 09:34.36 | LuciusMare | tarzeau: nope |
| 09:34.41 | tarzeau | LuciusMare: yes there is. |
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| 09:34.58 | LuciusMare | tarzeau: then why do you ask?Whatever,but i meant i dont have one |
| 09:34.59 | babilen | LuciusMare: Ok. I have never had the need for that, so my knowledge is quite limited on that topic. Maybe http://wiki.debian.org/BootUsb can help you out? |
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| 09:35.10 | tarzeau | LuciusMare: well you should get one then |
| 09:35.23 | tarzeau | LuciusMare: my questions, wasn't a question. it was kinda a hint |
| 09:35.23 | LuciusMare | babilen: the old box cant boot from usb,unfortunatelly |
| 09:35.36 | unitypunk | heyyy |
| 09:35.49 | unitypunk | how can i list the number o files in a filder and its subfolders. |
| 09:35.51 | LuciusMare | tarzeau: yes,thanks for advice,but i could figure it by myself,but it is quite impossible,there is no linux shop,and i do not own a cd writer |
| 09:35.56 | tarzeau | unitypunk: find . |wc -l |
| 09:36.03 | unitypunk | huh |
| 09:36.07 | tarzeau | LuciusMare: which country? |
| 09:36.11 | babilen | tarzeau: The problem is he/she has no way to burn another Live CD right now... The only option seems to be PXE boot and from what i understand she/he does not have a DHCP around on which to configure netboot and sending an installer with TFTP |
| 09:36.16 | LuciusMare | tarzeau: czech republic |
| 09:36.24 | unitypunk | where do i specify the dif? |
| 09:36.28 | unitypunk | dir? |
| 09:36.31 | tarzeau | babilen: i see, that sucks |
| 09:36.43 | tarzeau | unitypunk: the dot |
| 09:37.07 | babilen | LuciusMare: If it can't boot from USB then what do you want to do? As your HDD (the one you could boot from if it was not broken) is not an option, what do you plan to do to get a running system? |
| 09:37.15 | nsadmin | unitypunk: using find and wc |
| 09:37.46 | LuciusMare | *sigh* i thought it will be a bit complicated |
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| 09:38.08 | nsadmin | perhaps it might be easier to replace the hd |
| 09:38.12 | LuciusMare | babilen: i want to boot a linux there,to find out if the disk is broken or not |
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| 09:38.51 | LuciusMare | babilen: so i wanted to chroot to my external hdd,download gpxe (pxe loader) and write it to the floppy |
| 09:38.59 | LuciusMare | to boot from,and load DSL |
| 09:39.05 | LuciusMare | (damn small linux) |
| 09:39.27 | babilen | LuciusMare: As i said earlier: Get a decent live CD *somewhere* or go to a place where somebody can setup a DHCP server to send you a netboot image of a decent live CD via PXE/TFTP |
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| 09:49.00 | fluorine | where's the debian repo for google chrome? |
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| 09:56.14 | djp` | anyone know how to suppress messages appearing in the console? |
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| 09:58.35 | babilen | djp`: I do not know it off hand, but have a look at the kernel.printk option in /etc/sysctl.conf |
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| 10:00.04 | djp` | babilen: thanks |
| 10:00.12 | vlt | Hello. How can I fix this: "E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)"? |
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| 10:01.14 | liable | vlt: you have another app open |
| 10:01.24 | babilen | djp`: If you don't want to reboot you can just echo the correct printk line to /proc/sys/kernel/printk |
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| 10:02.34 | babilen | vlt: another app as in: another package administration application (aptitude, synaptics, ....) |
| 10:02.37 | vlt | liable: The hplip.run installer apt-got some dependencies. Now it says it's unable to install ... hmmmm |
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| 10:03.06 | liable | vlt: check ps for other instances and kill them all and start again |
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| 10:04.04 | babilen | vlt: Why do you use an external installer and not just install the "hplip" package? |
| 10:04.19 | vlt | babilen: I need a newer one. |
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| 10:05.43 | babilen | vlt: Which version? (>3.9.8 ?) |
| 10:05.54 | vlt | liable: >2.6.10# |
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| 10:06.02 | vlt | babilen: 1 |
| 10:06.14 | babilen | vlt: 1 ? |
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| 10:06.32 | djp` | babilen: thanks again. do you think that a message "diff=10000 >= 10000 buf_bytes." is being caused by printks? |
| 10:06.35 | vlt | sorry, bad keyboard skills ;-) |
| 10:06.52 | vlt | babilen: I need >= 2.6.10 |
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| 10:07.00 | babilen | djp`: Sorry. I have no idea. Search for that message and you might find more information .. |
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| 10:07.50 | babilen | vlt: OK. I would suggest getting the Debian package source from testing and build the Debian package locally and install that. |
| 10:08.47 | babilen | vlt: But that is for later. Good luck with solving you "Resource ..." problem first. |
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| 10:09.37 | vlt | babilen: Solved it by killing everthing and everyone trying to access it ... How to get the pkg from testing? Add a bpo line to sources.list? |
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| 10:12.15 | babilen | vlt: No. Add a *deb-src* line for squeeze into your sources.list and follow http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html |
| 10:13.00 | babilen | vlt: hplip is unfortunately not in bpo |
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| 10:17.40 | vlt | babilen: What is the deb-src line for squeeze? |
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| 10:22.06 | babilen | vlt: It is like the line for lenny with s/lenny/squeeze and s/deb/deb-src |
| 10:23.03 | babilen | vlt: It is of uttermost importance that you do *not* give a line with squeeze referencing the binaries (plain deb in the beginning instead of deb-src) |
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| 10:26.20 | vlt | babilen: Ok. I added "deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian squeeze main restricted non-free contrib" to sources.list and ran `aptitude update`. When I try to `apt-get -b source hplip` I get "E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.de.debian.org_debian_dists_squeeze_restricted_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)". |
| 10:27.05 | babilen | vlt: restricted? |
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| 10:27.36 | vlt | babilen: That's what it's looking for. I don't know why. |
| 10:27.50 | vlt | babilen: Should I remove restricted from the deb-srv line? |
| 10:27.53 | vlt | *src |
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| 10:28.52 | babilen | vlt: yes. Have a look at: http://archive.daniel-baumann.ch/debian/documents/restricted.html |
| 10:29.37 | babilen | vlt: *You* must have entered restricted in the past, which is why it is looking for it now. |
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| 10:30.47 | babilen | vlt: Good luck. I am sure others here can help you from now on. I am afk. |
| 10:30.48 | vlt | babilen: Yes. I removed it. Now it downloads and builds. Thank you. |
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| 10:40.06 | inckie | i have to send some commands to an Huewei e220 modem |
| 10:40.07 | krionux | hi |
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| 10:46.39 | [M4rk0] | simonrvn, that didn't help |
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| 10:48.19 | vlt | Hello. I built a package using the command `apt-get -b source hplip`. Now I got several .deb files. When I try to `dpkg -i hplip_...amd64.deb` I get a dependency error. Is there a way to install the available dependencies automatically? |
| 10:48.44 | the-dude | did you try apt-get install -f ? |
| 10:49.06 | vlt | the-dude: No. Can I use apt-get for a .deb file? |
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| 10:49.14 | craigevil | vlt: yes using gdebi or apt-get -f install after trying to do dpkg -i |
| 10:49.53 | _darren_ | can any recommend a benchmarking tool - I'm interested in testing internal/external disk and NFS performance |
| 10:49.54 | the-dude | vlt: no but it will fix the dependency problem |
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| 10:50.07 | vlt | So the command to run now is `apt-get install -f`, right? |
| 10:50.37 | the-dude | vlt: that should solve the dependency's problem |
| 10:50.54 | Tiders | IN Debian is there any way to make it so that every time I move to a new folder in the file browser it doesnt open it in a new window? |
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| 10:52.08 | the-dude | Tiders: Tiders I think that is nautilus related |
| 10:52.21 | markybob | it is. edit->preferences |
| 10:52.21 | [M4rk0] | Hello |
| 10:52.26 | [M4rk0] | again |
| 10:52.31 | [M4rk0] | After aptitude update, aptitude safe-upgrade my system wont boot anymore... "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init" |
| 10:52.41 | vlt | the-dude: That made it even worse: Runnning `dpkg -i hplip...deb` again results in "hplip depends on hplip-data (>> 3.9.4b); however: Version of hplip-data on system is 2.8.6.b-4." |
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| 10:53.07 | mesaGL | [M4rk0]: not good. do you have any unsafe repos enabled ? |
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| 10:53.15 | Tiders | the-dude, How can I switch to a different file browser? |
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| 10:55.38 | the-dude | Tiders: I don't know |
| 10:56.04 | craigevil | vlt: do you have squeeze in your sources.list? |
| 10:56.05 | Tiders | the-dude, Well is there a setting so that it doesnt open up 10 windows when Im browsing to a file |
| 10:56.42 | craigevil | Tiders: edit > preferences |
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| 10:56.46 | [M4rk0] | hm whats unsafe repos :D |
| 10:56.50 | Tiders | craigevil, I cant seem to find any setting for that |
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| 10:57.20 | vlt | craigevil: Yes, a "deb-src" line. I built a pkg and now have several .deb files. Is there a way to install them all at once? |
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| 10:57.30 | Bamako | http://desert-fox.blog.hu |
| 10:57.49 | Tiders | craigevil, Okay I got it for some reason Debian was automatically not using Nautilous it was using some mini thing |
| 10:57.50 | [M4rk0] | mesaGL, hm whats unsafe repos? :) |
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| 10:58.20 | craigevil | vlt: yes put them all in the same dir, cd to that location then do dpkg -i foo* |
| 10:58.21 | Bamako | Budapest-Bamako Rally |
| 10:58.26 | Bamako | caritative help Africa |
| 10:58.27 | Bamako | http://desert-fox.blog.hu |
| 10:58.35 | vlt | craigevil: Thanks |
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| 10:59.38 | Oleg_ | It looks like I still don't know how to make mlocate find every single file or folder that has a certain name |
| 10:59.59 | mesaGL | [M4rk0]: well anything that isn't the stable lenny, really. i can't believe that lenny would leave you without an init |
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| 11:00.23 | [M4rk0] | :D |
| 11:00.26 | Oleg_ | What options should I pass to mlocate to make it look for every file on my system that has a certain name? |
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| 11:00.27 | [M4rk0] | so what now ? |
| 11:00.43 | Oleg_ | file or folder |
| 11:01.07 | Tiders | Does Debian use somethng like compiz to manage effects? |
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| 11:01.48 | lvh | Tiders: Debian is a universal operating system. By default, it doesn't come with very much, but Compiz is available to people that want it. |
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| 11:02.15 | Tiders | lvh, How would I go about installing it? |
| 11:02.23 | beardy | !installit |
| 11:02.24 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
| 11:02.26 | beardy | !search |
| 11:02.26 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking, e.g. 'apt-cache search regex', or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): 'dpkg -S /bin/foo', <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and <help find> (bot). <search dpkg> for factoids. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt and ask me about <bot help>. |
| 11:02.35 | lvh | Tiders: sudo aptitude install compiz |
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| 11:03.16 | lvh | That 'search' thing should mention apt-file imho |
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| 11:03.19 | [M4rk0] | mesaGL, so what now? |
| 11:03.32 | beardy | lvh: Read the middle. |
| 11:03.48 | Tiders | lvh, How can I get into compiz settings now? |
| 11:03.50 | lvh | beardy: Oh. I'm blind, ignore me |
| 11:03.54 | beardy | lvh: :) |
| 11:04.12 | lvh | Tiders: Are you running Gnome or some other DE? |
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| 11:04.22 | Tiders | lvh, Gnome |
| 11:04.32 | lvh | Tiders: sudo aptitude install compiz-gnome |
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| 11:04.46 | lvh | Tiders: I don't actually use gnome or compiz, so I'm working from memory here |
| 11:04.56 | lvh | Tiders: but that should make compiz settings appear in the gnome config menu |
| 11:04.56 | Tiders | lvh, its already installed |
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| 11:05.23 | Tiders | It doesnt seem to be appearing |
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| 11:05.40 | lvh | Tiders: That's strange. You should probably try to find someone that actually uses compiz |
| 11:05.48 | lvh | Tiders: open a terminal, compiz<TAB> |
| 11:05.56 | beardy | Tiders: I think there's a #compiz channel. |
| 11:05.57 | lvh | Tiders: See what's installed that starts with compiz :-) |
| 11:06.08 | [M4rk0] | mesaGL, can this help: e2fsck -f -y -v /dev/hdb1 |
| 11:06.17 | Tiders | lvh, compiz and compiz.real |
| 11:06.52 | lvh | Tiders: You're probably better off asking someone who actually uses Compiz, then |
| 11:06.58 | beardy | !compiz |
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| 11:06.59 | dpkg | Compiz is a compositing window manager using OpenGL for rendering. It can run when <AIGLX> and the composite extension are enabled for your X server; see http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz for installation, configuration and usage details. Current state of Compiz (et al) in unstable can be found at http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/Compiz . http://www.compiz.org/ #compiz on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 11:07.24 | Arrowmaster | did a aptitude search compiz, the manually installed stuff i have is compiz, compiz-fusion-bcop, compiz-fusion-plugins-extra, compiz-fusion-plugins-main, compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported, compizconfig-backend-gconf, compizconfig-settings-manager |
| 11:07.39 | [M4rk0] | !qotd0 |
| 11:07.40 | dpkg | <mxldr> how do i get lenny to watch DVD's <mxldr> i just want to watch DVD's. I don't care about free-speachsoftware or the manatees or anything |
| 11:09.11 | KTL | manatees |
| 11:09.56 | liable | one more step in evolution and they become fucking NARWHALS! |
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| 11:13.44 | mesaGL | [M4rk0]: time you went back to windows. or maybe give debian one last go, but the signs are not good |
| 11:14.23 | [M4rk0] | mesaGL, :-| it's one of main servers in my company :-| |
| 11:14.53 | [M4rk0] | I can't mount drive and all |
| 11:14.56 | [M4rk0] | how to fix |
| 11:15.00 | [M4rk0] | bootup |
| 11:15.12 | [M4rk0] | i somewhere saw it is grub problem |
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| 11:15.41 | mesaGL | they let you in charge ? |
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| 11:16.09 | [M4rk0] | yeah lol |
| 11:16.23 | Tiders | How do I install a Nvidia driver from a .run file? |
| 11:16.42 | mjt | Tiders: follow the instructuins on the nvidia site |
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| 11:17.27 | Tiders | mjt, Where? |
| 11:17.36 | mjt | where you downloaded it from |
| 11:17.41 | mesaGL | [M4rk0]: i hate to say this cos i'm not nasty, but sometimes people deserve to get sacked. not just becasue of their reckless incompetence, but also becasue they are depriving someone far more deserving of the job |
| 11:17.45 | Tiders | Im not seeing any instructions |
| 11:17.59 | mjt | !nvidia |
| 11:18.00 | dpkg | To use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work. Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net). Ask me about <nvidia squeeze>. |
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| 11:20.26 | [M4rk0] | mesaGL, great but the problem is why i own isp, and i can't know every f-king thing to fix... and from my city and around ii can't hire anyone with linux knowledge because they don't exists :-| |
| 11:22.02 | Tiders | How do you exit X |
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| 11:22.33 | mesaGL | that's right. europe has no competent linux people. haha. priceless |
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| 11:22.51 | doubleclick | i installed weechat from a .deb package |
| 11:23.05 | babilen | doubleclick: Good to know :-) |
| 11:23.13 | doubleclick | and now when i try tu update aptitude wants to remove it...? |
| 11:23.22 | doubleclick | babilen: let me finish :P |
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| 11:23.37 | doubleclick | any ideas? |
| 11:23.44 | doubleclick | http://pastebin.com/m47039e9a |
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| 11:23.57 | babilen | doubleclick: is it marked as being installed automatically? |
| 11:24.22 | [M4rk0] | mesaGL, heh :D |
| 11:24.27 | doubleclick | it's a newer version than in the repos... |
| 11:25.20 | babilen | doubleclick: Please paste the output of apt-cache policy weechat-{plugins,curses} |
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| 11:26.54 | doubleclick | babilen: http://pastebin.com/m25319f3f |
| 11:27.08 | babilen | doubleclick: And aptitude search ~i~nweechat- |
| 11:27.40 | babilen | doubleclick: The apt-cache output looks fine. |
| 11:28.58 | doubleclick | babilen: http://pastebin.com/m44d32c14 |
| 11:29.34 | ethanol | if I don't give an interface a netmask, but I do give it an address and gateway, does it figure out the proper netmask itself? |
| 11:29.38 | babilen | doubleclick: No it does not. Sorry. The problem is that the weechat packages you installed are given a lower priority than the one in the stable repos. |
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| 11:30.26 | babilen | doubleclick: One more. "aptitude show weechat-core" :-) |
| 11:31.17 | doubleclick | babilen: http://pastebin.com/m5195dbc |
| 11:31.29 | babilen | doubleclick: disregard the "lower priority" statement please. |
| 11:31.40 | babilen | had just one cappucino until now ;-) |
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| 11:31.42 | doubleclick | ok :)) |
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| 11:33.19 | babilen | doubleclick: OK. The last command has the solution. There is a "Replaces: weechat-common, weechat-plugins" in tha description. This means that the functionality of the weechat-plugins package is provided by weechat-core in weechat versions >= 0.3.0 |
| 11:33.42 | WormFood | http://tinyurl.com/2lzmgb <-- if someone made this cake for your halloween party, would you eat it? |
| 11:34.03 | babilen | doubleclick: I am not sure about the weechat-curses package. Please paste "aptitude why weechat-curses" |
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| 11:35.12 | alkisg_work | Hello. I think there's a packaging problem in package "usermode", and I'm looking for confirmation, so that I file a bug report. I.e.: the source contains the translations, but the binary .deb doesn't. However, if I run `debuild -b` locally, I do get the translations, so I guess something is missing in the Build-Depends line... http://packages.debian.org/sid/i386/usermode |
| 11:35.27 | doubleclick | babilen: no reason to install... and also, no reason to remove... :S |
| 11:35.50 | babilen | doubleclick: Are you sure you need that package? |
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| 11:36.19 | doubleclick | quite sure, it _is_ the thing you run :) |
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| 11:36.48 | doubleclick | babilen: i even tried removing it.. and end up with no weechat at all :) |
| 11:37.13 | doubleclick | babilen: i can try again :) |
| 11:37.59 | babilen | doubleclick: Hang on. I'll have to investigate the situation. |
| 11:38.32 | doubleclick | babilen: maybe i donwloaded worng packages... -- http://www.weechat.org/files/debian/lenny/0.3.0/ |
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| 11:38.49 | Tiders | How do I add non-free sources to debian |
| 11:39.12 | doubleclick | Tiders: you edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 11:39.14 | liable | !non-free |
| 11:39.14 | dpkg | it has been said that non-free is a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 11:39.20 | liable | grr |
| 11:39.25 | babilen | doubleclick: I guess what you want is to actually install weechat-curses and *not* weechat-core (that is a dependency of weechat-curses) |
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| 11:39.48 | Tiders | doubleclick, What do I add? |
| 11:39.49 | liable | Tiders: /msg dpkg non-free sources |
| 11:40.04 | babilen | doubleclick: I am talking about these packages: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=weechat-&searchon=names&suite=testing§ion=all |
| 11:40.44 | babilen | doubleclick: I think the following would solve your problems: "aptitude unmarkauto weechat-curses" "aptitude markauto weechat-core" |
| 11:41.48 | mesaGL | [M4rk0]: i'm not quite finished yet. you obviously don't know your arse from your elbow. take my advice and STAY AWAY FROM COMPUTERS |
| 11:42.04 | marcriera | Hello, i'm using a pressed file for a PXE install. I've got this pressed using debconf-get-selections --install , BUT and here is the question, it asks for my intervention in the "which country" for the mirror selection. What can be possibly worng? thanks |
| 11:42.14 | babilen | doubleclick: and "aptitude unmarkauto weechat-plugins" |
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| 11:43.14 | babilen | mesaGL: No need to tell her/him that. If you want to help give links to relevant documentation. Even if that is something real basic. Everybody has the right to learn and try his/her best. |
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| 11:44.25 | babilen | doubleclick: Did that solve your problems? |
| 11:45.05 | [M4rk0] | babilen, thats right... |
| 11:45.05 | doubleclick | babilen: yeah |
| 11:45.23 | doubleclick | babilen: it was a bit confusing, thanks for helping me :) |
| 11:45.43 | babilen | doubleclick: Great. I hope you enjoyed #debian and the Debian distribution and wish you a nice day ;-) |
| 11:46.21 | doubleclick | babilen: hahaha, so professional! :D |
| 11:46.23 | babilen | doubleclick: the problem is that weechat has two packages that you really have to install (curses and plugins). the other packages are just dependencies... |
| 11:46.43 | [M4rk0] | ls -a |
| 11:47.01 | [M4rk0] | babilen, and can You help regarding this... |
| 11:47.13 | [M4rk0] | -> After aptitude update, aptitude safe-upgrade my system wont boot anymore... "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init" |
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| 11:47.24 | doubleclick | babilen: right.. i asked in #weechat first but they don't really know.. |
| 11:47.34 | babilen | doubleclick: I have no idea why weechat-curses was marked as being installed automatically, but because nothing depended on it (it is the root package in the dependency graph) aptitude decided to remove it because aptitude thinks that it is no longer needed. |
| 11:48.17 | doubleclick | babilen: yeah, that's strange.. i don't know how that happend.. |
| 11:48.44 | babilen | [M4rk0]: It has been pointed out to you earlier that you should boot with a live CD, chroot into the system and install sysvinit. Or was that not you asking that? |
| 11:49.01 | [M4rk0] | Yes and that doesn't help |
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| 11:49.44 | babilen | doubleclick: In the future: (i) It is always better to install packages from Debian (ii) Try to build the packages from source or (iii) use backports |
| 11:50.06 | babilen | [M4rk0]: Did you rebuilt the initrd afterwards? |
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| 11:50.52 | ethanol | hey just wondering, if I echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_syncookies -- do I have to redo this after each reboot? |
| 11:50.58 | doubleclick | babilen: noted. thanks again ;) |
| 11:51.18 | ascii158_ | does anyone know, wether you can acces a http-repository to that only clients with certificates can connect with apt? |
| 11:51.39 | babilen | doubleclick: there are other (more complicated ways) like pinning, ... but that is usually only a way into confusion and problems if done wrong |
| 11:52.09 | babilen | [M4rk0]: I can not help you right now (have to go). I hope you can solve that problem soon. |
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| 11:52.52 | babilen | ethanol: Yes you have to do that. If you want to set it permanently you have to edit /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 11:53.07 | babilen | doubleclick, [M4rk0]: Goodbye and good luck. |
| 11:53.08 | ethanol | I see, thanks |
| 11:53.15 | [M4rk0] | babilen, you mean update-initramfs ? |
| 11:53.23 | [M4rk0] | babilen, bye man ;) |
| 11:53.31 | babilen | good luck... |
| 11:53.35 | babilen | bye |
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| 11:55.47 | Ecco | Hi :-) |
| 11:55.55 | Ecco | What's the best flash player available for Debian ? |
| 11:56.58 | WormFood | adobe? |
| 11:57.26 | Ecco | Yeah, but aptitude doesn't find it⦠|
| 11:57.41 | Ecco | Plus http://wiki.debian.org/Flash says it's not available⦠|
| 11:57.49 | the-dude | Ecco: flashplugin-nonfree |
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| 11:58.09 | Ecco | Well, it doesn't find it |
| 11:58.31 | the-dude | Ecco: did you add non-free sources to your sources.list? |
| 11:58.43 | Ecco | Hmm, nope |
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| 11:59.01 | Ecco | Is gnash bad ? |
| 11:59.09 | Ecco | I'm not a big flash user anyway |
| 11:59.15 | Ecco | I just wanna watch a movie here and there |
| 11:59.18 | Ecco | and a couple animation |
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| 12:00.55 | mhymn | Ecco: /msg dpkg dmm |
| 12:01.01 | mhymn | and install from there |
| 12:01.05 | Ecco | Ok :-) |
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| 12:01.32 | Ecco | Holy shit : http://www.lelombrik.net/videos/24972/hole-in-one-2.html |
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| 12:01.41 | mhymn | Ecco: also /msg dpkg adobe flash |
| 12:01.49 | j_14 | Hello. Is it possible to browse the security repository (security.debian.org) like a normal repository? |
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| 12:03.23 | vchrizz | if possible, how do i add an interface to a bridge without restarting the bridge? |
| 12:04.28 | j_14 | Nevermind, i just had to use ftp rather than http |
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| 12:05.17 | inigo | vchrizz, brctl add |
| 12:05.23 | inigo | ? |
| 12:06.03 | inigo | addif |
| 12:06.15 | inigo | brctl addif bridge device |
| 12:06.39 | vchrizz | ah ok, i entered it in /etc/network/interfaces and thought, now how activate without restarting bridge.. ;) |
| 12:06.45 | vchrizz | thanks |
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| 12:10.39 | vchrizz | ok i added it to the bridge, but its not up.. looking through brctl manpage i dont find anything to bring the if up? |
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| 12:19.38 | bogdanbiv | Hello! |
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| 12:21.18 | bogdanbiv | Guys and gals, I'm having trouble installing rmagick on Debian, it complains that mkmf is missing. |
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| 12:22.16 | jorginator | bogdanbiv: ? debian package install or manual install? |
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| 12:22.46 | bogdanbiv | Debian package from Lenny-backports. |
| 12:23.26 | jorginator | "it complains" - is the complaint from apt/dpkg or the package itself? (the exact full error message will be helpful) |
| 12:23.30 | bogdanbiv | Actually, not. |
| 12:24.34 | jorginator | ? |
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| 12:25.51 | bogdanbiv | It was a gem install, my mistake. |
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| 12:26.22 | bogdanbiv | But now I have installed some dev package and I get another error. |
| 12:26.38 | Titan8990 | lol lets just keep installing stuff |
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| 12:30.12 | jorginator | bogdanbiv: have a look at the README file (or INSTALL) that came with the package - that should list dependencies (usually) |
| 12:30.20 | bogdanbiv | Here is the output: http://pastebin.com/m3025372 |
| 12:30.37 | jorginator | usually INSTALL and README can be found at the top level - right next to the configure script... |
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| 12:32.28 | jorginator | bogdanbiv: ah... ruby... I am out of my depth there... but Magick-config sounds like it comes from one of the imagemagick packages ... no clue as to which one |
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| 12:33.13 | Noble | Got a new Intel SSD. What filesystem should I use, and what BIOS settings are appropriate? |
| 12:33.21 | jorginator | bogdanbiv: One of these perhaps? http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=Magick-config&mode=filename&suite=stable&arch=any |
| 12:33.36 | bogdanbiv | Oh, wait, I had 5 other packages with the same error. |
| 12:33.49 | Titan8990 | bogdanbiv, aptitude install libmagick9-dev |
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| 12:40.05 | bogdanbiv | It seems to work after I installed libmagick9-dev and libmagick9++. |
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| 12:41.34 | bogdanbiv | Thanks! |
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| 12:42.05 | bogdanbiv | Now, I only need to find what packages I installed to document the process. |
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| 12:43.17 | Titan8990 | aptitude install emacs22? |
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| 12:45.57 | benedikt | how do i reinstall all the packages in a metapackage? |
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| 12:46.48 | Nurbs | bogdanbiv: /var/log/aptitude and /var/log/dpkg.log may be useful. |
| 12:47.43 | PovAddict | you reinstall the metapackage |
| 12:47.49 | bogdanbiv | Nurbs: Oh, thanks! |
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| 12:48.16 | benedikt | PovAddict: it states that it is already installed |
| 12:48.46 | superlinux | hi. my grub menu takes sometime to load, how can I speed it up? |
| 12:49.51 | Titan8990 | superlinux, alter the timeout value in menu.lst? |
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| 12:51.01 | superlinux | Titan8990, I dont mean the time to wait to load the default menu item. I mean the whole menu takes some seconds before it shows up. |
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| 12:51.44 | InnerFIRE | hello, |
| 12:51.50 | Titan8990 | superlinux, you mean after the system goes through the POST? or the POST is taking a long time? |
| 12:52.23 | InnerFIRE | anyone know how to set the gnome keyring passord in sid? |
| 12:53.35 | superlinux | Titan8990, YES! |
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| 12:53.47 | PovAddict | benedikt: then all the packages it depends on should be already installed too |
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| 12:54.28 | benedikt | PovAddict: you are quite right. i was looking at the wrong package |
| 12:54.46 | superlinux | Titan8990, just after the POST, which is normal and in perfect shape, the grub menu takes some time to form itself. it does not just pop-up. |
| 12:55.35 | Titan8990 | superlinux, no ideas on that one, sorry |
| 12:55.46 | superlinux | thanks |
| 12:57.07 | InnerFIRE | superlinux: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/grub-very-slow-427442/ |
| 12:57.17 | superlinux | ok |
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| 13:01.54 | superlinux | InnerFIRE, maybe because I lost the journal of my ext3 of /boot |
| 13:02.12 | superlinux | or the root dir |
| 13:02.33 | superlinux | how can I check if my system has the journal? |
| 13:02.49 | benedikt | superlinux: use ext2 on /boot |
| 13:03.09 | superlinux | why? |
| 13:03.18 | superlinux | I usually use ext3 |
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| 13:03.25 | Titan8990 | superlinux, because journaling should not be used on a small partitions |
| 13:03.34 | superlinux | ok |
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| 13:03.50 | superlinux | so can I convert it to ext2? |
| 13:04.46 | Titan8990 | ehh you can go ext2 -> ext3 but im not sure you can remove the journaling |
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| 13:04.49 | PovAddict | is there really a need for a /boot nowadays? |
| 13:04.56 | Titan8990 | PovAddict, yes |
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| 13:05.34 | PovAddict | why exactly? |
| 13:05.39 | benedikt | Debian installer doesnt make one by default |
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| 13:05.51 | j_14 | PovAddict: if you use LVM you need a separate /boot that is not on LVM |
| 13:05.51 | Titan8990 | PovAddict, grub legacy could not boot if the /boot partitions was on say... an LVM or encrypted volume |
| 13:05.57 | Titan8990 | benedikt, it does if you choose LFM |
| 13:06.02 | llutz | superlinux: just mount it as ext2 (ext3 = ext2 + journal) http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/ext2toext3.htm#_three2two |
| 13:06.08 | benedikt | Titan8990: LVM? |
| 13:06.09 | PovAddict | I don't use LVM, or encryption, or grub legacy |
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| 13:06.15 | Titan8990 | benedikt, logical volume management |
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| 13:06.26 | Titan8990 | PovAddict, then you don't need one if you prefer not to have on |
| 13:06.34 | superlinux | llutz, so I reboot and that's all? |
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| 13:06.57 | datag | could someone tell me why PRINT-key doesn't show up ksnapshot in kde4 default installation? the input-action is present but grayed out. i didn't find a bug for it |
| 13:06.57 | llutz | superlinux: change fstab-entry |
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| 13:07.01 | Titan8990 | benedikt, example of a lvm setup: http://pastebin.com/m497017a3 |
| 13:07.04 | superlinux | yes. i'll try that |
| 13:07.36 | benedikt | Titan8990: you said LFM :-P |
| 13:07.47 | PovAddict | Titan8990: is there any issue with a large partition? |
| 13:07.58 | superlinux | rebooting .. brb |
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| 13:08.05 | benedikt | but why do you use LVM. Ive never seen any practical use in it |
| 13:08.29 | Titan8990 | benedikt, LVM allows you resize live partitions |
| 13:08.32 | PovAddict | Titan8990: say, if I have a 1TB hard disk and a single partition using 100% of it... can I boot from it? |
| 13:08.37 | yunien | hi, when i ping 224.0.0.1 from host A, host B gets it but doesn't reply, even it has a default route for multicast; what could be the cause for that? |
| 13:08.50 | Titan8990 | PovAddict, if its a primary partition, yes |
| 13:09.21 | j_14 | benedikt: you could have 2 separate disks look as 1 big partition |
| 13:10.17 | Titan8990 | benedikt, yes, that too... my setup is actually two 80gb drives in the same volume group |
| 13:10.19 | InnerFIRE | anyone know what they replaced gnome-keyring-manger with in sid ? |
| 13:10.33 | benedikt | cool |
| 13:11.10 | benedikt | that might prove useful for me (resizing partitions on the fly) since I can never decide if i should have a separate /home partition or not |
| 13:11.36 | Titan8990 | IMO desktop systems should have a /home |
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| 13:11.52 | superlinux | no change yet |
| 13:11.52 | Titan8990 | that way you can reinstall the OS without losing your data or having to restore from a backup |
| 13:13.22 | benedikt | Titan8990: yes. but the "what if need to put some stuff in /var" comes up. or I get worried if i make / too small |
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| 13:13.58 | PovAddict | I know for a fact that my /var will grow big |
| 13:14.25 | InnerFIRE | hmm seems the only way to get gnome keyring working is to reformat :/ |
| 13:14.38 | Titan8990 | InnerFIRE, welcome to sid |
| 13:14.55 | InnerFIRE | it's rendered my system unuseable |
| 13:15.07 | Titan8990 | yep... welcome to sid |
| 13:15.22 | benedikt | InnerFIRE: don't use sid :P |
| 13:15.28 | Titan8990 | thats why its called "unstable" |
| 13:15.30 | PovAddict | sid liked to render toys unusable too |
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| 13:17.16 | rgr | benedikt: always make home a seperate partition and ALWAYS make /var as large as you can. I have been bitten a few times with large debian updates where /var was not big enough. |
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| 13:18.12 | benedikt | rgr: thats why i just have one big /. Saves me that headache |
| 13:18.25 | PovAddict | me too |
| 13:18.37 | PovAddict | but I'm thinking I should have created a separate /home |
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| 13:18.55 | PovAddict | but then I'd need either a big / or a separate /var |
| 13:19.14 | krionux | benedikt, PovAddict: use lvm :) |
| 13:19.32 | babilen | PovAddict: That is always a good idea. I think the best way is to use LVM so that one is able to resize various parts of the fs independently. |
| 13:19.34 | benedikt | krionux: thats what i just learned today :) |
| 13:19.38 | krionux | a separate /home is obligatory ! |
| 13:19.54 | Titan8990 | benedikt, the key is not allocate all the space in your volume group and distribute it as needed |
| 13:19.58 | PovAddict | well, with gparted I can resize partitions around quite safely |
| 13:20.02 | PovAddict | but offline :) |
| 13:20.04 | krionux | it make the world a better place |
| 13:20.08 | Titan8990 | benedikt, "growing" a partition is very easy but shrinking one can be more difficult |
| 13:20.15 | babilen | PovAddict: One reason for that is also that you might want to decide to mount /usr as ro and to have /var use a fs that is optimised for small files (like mails, ...) |
| 13:20.25 | benedikt | is it possible to start using lvm withotu doin areinstall |
| 13:20.30 | PovAddict | eh, mails in /var? |
| 13:20.36 | PovAddict | oh, if you have a mailserver? won't be the case for me |
| 13:20.49 | babilen | Titan8990: Shrinking is also not *that* hard. I had to do it a couple of times and it always worked without a problem. |
| 13:20.58 | PovAddict | but I'll have lots of files, some big, in /var/cache/apt :) |
| 13:21.11 | jelly | PovAddict: those are easily cleaned |
| 13:21.14 | benedikt | babilen: you might also consider using a ramdriver for /var/spool/mail if you have a large mailserver |
| 13:21.19 | PovAddict | heck no |
| 13:21.29 | babilen | PovAddict: Just wanted to point out some reasons why it *might* make sense to split up / . |
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| 13:21.54 | PovAddict | and potentially lots of data in /var/lib/boinc or /var/lib/mysql |
| 13:21.58 | ranix | I've had bad user-written applications generate terabytes of logs in /var/log/ |
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| 13:22.15 | ranix | if that's not on its own partition it *will* bring your system down when it fills your disks |
| 13:22.16 | krionux | benedikt: yes, if you got "free" space on you hard drive |
| 13:22.29 | benedikt | and i turned on bind querylogsonce and i got 2 gb in a month. of logs. |
| 13:22.31 | krionux | by free space i mean no partition (or a partition you can "format") |
| 13:22.33 | ranix | /home/ wants to be on its own partition also |
| 13:22.39 | babilen | benedikt: No, I would not do that. Why do you think that might be good? |
| 13:23.16 | benedikt | babilen: reduces load quite signifancly. worked for me. but im servering over 5000 mails/day |
| 13:23.28 | benedikt | on quite old hardware |
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| 13:23.45 | babilen | ranix: Or badly written applications that just fill up /tmp/ until the whole whole fs was full ... disk quotas might help there though IMHO if you inist on using a single / |
| 13:23.58 | ranix | babilen: yep |
| 13:24.24 | babilen | benedikt: How do you deal with power failures? Just curious... |
| 13:24.43 | benedikt | babilen: i have two separate servers on twp separate locations. :) |
| 13:24.48 | PovAddict | I have never had apps fill the disk |
| 13:24.50 | benedikt | and im adding the third |
| 13:25.04 | babilen | But this discussion if moving OT. We might continue it in #debian-offtopic |
| 13:25.15 | PovAddict | I did have trouble with an app filling RAM *and* swap |
| 13:25.44 | PovAddict | and then the OOM struck |
| 13:25.48 | PovAddict | OOM killer* |
| 13:26.05 | benedikt | babilen: im actually using old small desktop machines (small ones) with a single disk. no problems so far. if something happens i have seconadry machine(s), and ill just replace the old computer with another old desktop |
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| 13:42.34 | Titan8990 | Hyperi, `file foobar` maybe |
| 13:42.43 | Messi | juego de boxeo online http://www.kobox.org/kobox-fande-Nourine.html |
| 13:43.03 | babilen | !es |
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| 13:59.27 | benedikt | anybody with squeeze and gnome that can confirm that this bug still exists in squeeze? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=545825 |
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| 14:02.52 | nader | HI, how can I reconfig gnome for X? 'Cause I runned nvidia-xconfig and it makes a new config |
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| 14:03.13 | dominique | hello folks |
| 14:03.18 | Rapp | at the moment it is root:root 0600 |
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| 14:03.26 | benedikt | nader: do you want a new xorgconf? |
| 14:03.39 | dominique | anyone willing to help me clean up the mess with apache2 on lenny? i can't F@$@! get it to work properly |
| 14:03.41 | rvsjoen | rapp: chmod ? |
| 14:04.03 | rvsjoen | dominique: whats the problem |
| 14:04.07 | dominique | it won't read from /var/www even though to the best of my knowledge configs are OK. |
| 14:04.21 | rvsjoen | errors ? |
| 14:04.25 | dominique | and it was like that since aptitutde install apache2 |
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| 14:04.31 | dominique | has been* |
| 14:04.37 | dominique | no errors in errors.log |
| 14:04.39 | Titan8990 | Rapp, you should only need to add your user to the vboxusers group |
| 14:04.47 | dominique | it does read index.html from hell knows where |
| 14:04.48 | Rapp | Titan8990: thanks, will try! |
| 14:05.02 | dominique | while DocumentRoot = "/var/www" |
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| 14:05.15 | Titan8990 | Rapp, don't forget to relog afterwards |
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| 14:05.17 | rvsjoen | dominique: can you pastebin the default site configuration ? |
| 14:05.32 | dominique | rvsjoen of course, 1 sec |
| 14:05.40 | nader | benedikt, I think |
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| 14:06.29 | benedikt | nader: X :1 -configure |
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| 14:06.45 | benedikt | nader: that produces an new xorg.conf with the settings X has probed from your hardware |
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| 14:07.06 | dominique | rvsjoen: http://pastebin.ca/1647795 |
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| 14:08.02 | dominique | rvsjoen i have to tell you that i tried to mess with vhosts... in particular i wanted to get rid of them as that was a default and highly unwanted in lenny default install of apache2 |
| 14:08.11 | dominique | but it was same before i even touched anything |
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| 14:09.02 | rvsjoen | it looks fine, and /var/www has the proper permissions ? it prints the 'it works' message ? |
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| 14:13.16 | dominique | rvsjoen i see "it works" but it doesn't come from /var/www... |
| 14:13.23 | dominique | rvsjoen that's the prob :( |
| 14:13.31 | rvsjoen | dominique: so what's in /var/www ? |
| 14:13.41 | dominique | rvsjoen i know it, because when i try replacing /var/www/index.html it won't show up |
| 14:13.46 | dominique | there is index.html in there |
| 14:13.52 | dominique | which never shows up |
| 14:14.09 | dominique | just like some kind of redirect was in place |
| 14:14.38 | rvsjoen | check the main configuration file of apache or any other sites enabled for aliases |
| 14:14.49 | dominique | aliases.. hm.. |
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| 14:15.10 | Rapp | Titan8990: does not work. now in the group vboxusers, networking in the guest still not functioning |
| 14:15.20 | rvsjoen | you can just grep for the 'Alias' keyword |
| 14:15.35 | dominique | main conf has aliases #-out |
| 14:15.44 | nader | benedikt, It doesn't work |
| 14:15.48 | Titan8990 | Rapp, what type of networking are you trying ot use? |
| 14:15.59 | Rapp | Titan8990: bridged |
| 14:16.41 | dominique | rvsjoen absoulely nothing found... |
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| 14:16.45 | markybob | dominique, pastebin find /var/www |
| 14:16.46 | dominique | i checked 3 conf files |
| 14:16.54 | dominique | markybob ok 1 sec |
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| 14:17.33 | nader | benedikt, I need new xorg.conf 'Cause nvida-config was deleted my config |
| 14:17.48 | dominique | markybob: http://pastebin.ca/1647804 |
| 14:18.11 | dominique | hm this is what i get when accessing site: |
| 14:18.12 | dominique | Not Found |
| 14:18.13 | dominique | The requested URL /apache2-default/ was not found on this server. |
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| 14:18.25 | gr11x | dominique: pastebin find /etc/apache2/conf.d && find /etc/apache2/sites-enabled |
| 14:18.32 | dominique | i even tried to create that dir in /var/www and ln -s it to /var/www... |
| 14:18.38 | dominique | gr11x ok, 1 sec |
| 14:19.09 | abrotman | dominique: did you turn off the redirect in the standard config ? |
| 14:19.12 | benedikt | nader: X :1 confugre shoudl generate a xorg.conf in /etc/X11 |
| 14:19.22 | benedikt | X :! -configure |
| 14:19.25 | benedikt | bah |
| 14:19.27 | dominique | gr11x: http://pastebin.ca/1647807 |
| 14:19.29 | benedikt | X :1 -configure |
| 14:19.36 | dominique | abrotman i have never touched that one |
| 14:19.43 | dominique | is it on by default? |
| 14:19.45 | abrotman | dominique: yes |
| 14:19.46 | dominique | in lenny |
| 14:19.49 | dominique | ... |
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| 14:19.52 | dominique | checking |
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| 14:20.08 | abrotman | dominique: look in the 000-default (and lay off the enter key) |
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| 14:20.20 | dominique | abrotman hm.. 1 sec |
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| 14:21.04 | dominique | no Redirect line in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default |
| 14:21.18 | abrotman | dominique: paste the file .. pretty sure it's that file |
| 14:21.27 | gr11x | he did already |
| 14:21.31 | gr11x | http://pastebin.ca/1647795 |
| 14:21.44 | ethanol | what's the general make/build tools collections package called again? x: |
| 14:21.47 | abrotman | let me see if i can find it ... |
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| 14:21.52 | ranix | build-essential |
| 14:21.53 | abrotman | ethanol: build-essential |
| 14:21.57 | ranix | abrotman: ha! |
| 14:21.57 | ethanol | ah yeah thanks |
| 14:22.03 | dominique | abrotman: http://pastebin.ca/1647808 |
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| 14:22.37 | dominique | don't you think that apache2 default setup in lenny is err... weird? |
| 14:22.43 | dominique | never had such mess on etch |
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| 14:23.01 | dominique | i was even going to go back to etch because of this |
| 14:23.34 | abrotman | dominique: have you checked the apache error logs? |
| 14:23.55 | dominique | abrotman yes, there are no errors |
| 14:24.07 | abrotman | and the access logs show nothing either? |
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| 14:24.13 | markybob | dominique, have to ask...you did reload or restart after changing the config, right? |
| 14:25.07 | dominique | 94.23.220.167 - - [28/Oct/2009:21:45:58 +0100] "GET /w00tw00t.at.ISC.SANS.DFind:) HTTP/1.1" 400 306 "-" "-" |
| 14:25.13 | dominique | that's what i got and it's from last night... |
| 14:25.16 | abrotman | well .. something is working ... |
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| 14:25.27 | dominique | nothing after i reload the page shows up in access nor error logs |
| 14:25.27 | mmlj4 | I'm getting "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" when trying to update a box that hasn't been used for 1.5 years (it's a vmware image in my lab, don't worry, I'm safe).... do I have an outdated key or something? How can I update it? |
| 14:25.36 | abrotman | dominique: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
| 14:25.38 | dominique | markybob of course, i did restart.. many times |
| 14:25.44 | abrotman | mmlj4: aptitude install debian-archive-keyring |
| 14:25.53 | mmlj4 | danke |
| 14:26.03 | dominique | btw how serious is that w00tw00t shit? that's a scan, isn't it? |
| 14:26.30 | abrotman | dominique: can you telnet to the port? have you tried another browser/machine ? |
| 14:26.30 | krionux | what rss agregator should i try for gnome ? |
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| 14:26.39 | krionux | i'm use to akregator in kde |
| 14:26.50 | dominique | hm... this is what i get after restart: http://pastebin.ca/1647810 |
| 14:27.19 | dominique | abrotman i tried ie and ff |
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| 14:27.39 | dominique | abrotman btw i told apache2 to use ip alias... if it matters |
| 14:27.56 | abrotman | dominique: telnet host 80 .. GET / |
| 14:29.37 | dominique | abrotman: http://pastebin.ca/1647816 |
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| 14:30.06 | PovAddict | curl -v http://host/ |
| 14:30.17 | abrotman | dominique: grep -Ri redirect /etc/apache2/ |
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| 14:31.10 | dominique | abrotman: http://pastebin.ca/1647818 |
| 14:32.10 | abrotman | dominique: if you put a file in /var/www/apache2-default/ .. can you get to it? |
| 14:32.18 | dominique | abrotman absolutely not |
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| 14:32.36 | dominique | hm please wait, double-checking |
| 14:33.07 | abrotman | dominique: also check your logs again after that telnet/GET |
| 14:33.08 | dominique | no, i can't |
| 14:33.30 | wootR_ | uhm, what could cause this, my ps is spammed with "/usr/sbin/sshd" although only i am connected to ssh, the only solution to kill them all is kill all processes by that user :\ |
| 14:34.13 | wootR_ | http://pastebin.com/d5efbb75d |
| 14:34.20 | dominique | abrotman nothing in error and access |
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| 14:35.44 | module000 | wootR_: look at what has created them..try ps faux to see if they are children |
| 14:36.34 | wootR_ | yeah, they are children of /usr/bin/sshd :\ |
| 14:36.42 | wootR_ | sbin* |
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| 14:38.05 | module000 | wootR_: they dont' say sshd: someusername? they are just standalone sshds? |
| 14:38.21 | abrotman | dominique: the logs should have the attempt .. have you altered the configs at all ? |
| 14:38.22 | wootR_ | ran by the server "ts" on which I only started a teamspeak server |
| 14:38.28 | wootR_ | err, user ts |
| 14:38.37 | dominique | abrotman i think i messed up with vhosts setup |
| 14:38.38 | wootR_ | maybe some type of teamspeak exploit? |
| 14:38.56 | module000 | wootR_: I don't know, that's beyond the scope of my expertise. but I know that TS doesn't need a ssh server, so it shouldnt' be running |
| 14:39.16 | wootR_ | hmm, alright, i killed them all for now, never happed before, let's see if it happens again :) |
| 14:39.23 | dominique | abrotman with apache2ctl -D |
| 14:39.51 | dominique | abrotman please note that apache says something about missing vhost upon restart |
| 14:40.06 | dominique | i pasted that before but it got lost in the flood i created |
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| 14:41.07 | dominique | ok folks, how do you completely get rid of apache2 on lenny? |
| 14:41.23 | dominique | apt-get remove apache2 does basically nothing |
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| 14:42.16 | dominique | i want to reset everything and perhaps that would help, if not - i'm going for etch |
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| 14:42.35 | dominique | btw - any main differences between etch and lenny? is there any point in using lenny? |
| 14:43.05 | azeem_ | dominique: it'll be longer supported |
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| 14:44.21 | ranix | you should use lenny unless you can't |
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| 14:44.25 | ranix | it's more correct |
| 14:44.45 | PovAddict | dominique: apache2 doesn't have any files |
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| 14:44.55 | PovAddict | dominique: it just depends on one of the real apache packages |
| 14:45.12 | ranix | !metapackage |
| 14:45.12 | dpkg | it has been said that metapackage is a package that normally exists for convenience. It has no content, it just depends on other packages so that you don't have to have a hundred things on an apt-get/aptitude command line. The version of a metapackage can be misleading -- look at what it depends on instead (see the kde metapackage for an example). |
| 14:45.38 | jelly | dominique: dpkg -l apache2\* | grep ^.i ... purge them all |
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| 14:46.11 | ranix | apt-cache show apache2 can show you a description of the apache2 package |
| 14:46.26 | nader | benedikt, mouse detect error appears |
| 14:46.27 | ranix | I believe removing it should actually rid yourself of what it installed as dependencies |
| 14:46.44 | dominique | i *do* think that some debian maintainer should take a look... apache2 on lenny is a horror |
| 14:46.51 | jcgrv | Hello. Running Lenny just fine, connected to a Trendnet router, but when I try to login to it (http://192.168.10.1) it just loops. From Windows it works. Any ideas? |
| 14:46.56 | dominique | it just doesn't work by default |
| 14:47.03 | ranix | apt-get autoremove will remove dependencies by force |
| 14:47.17 | module000 | jcgrv: using the same browser as you were in windows? |
| 14:47.18 | ranix | man apt-get and search for "autoremove" |
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| 14:47.43 | jcgrv | Lenny: iceweasel. Windows: Chrome, IE |
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| 14:47.52 | dominique | ranix: http://pastebin.ca/1647841 |
| 14:47.56 | module000 | jcgrv: any trouble visiting other websites in iceweasel? or just the router |
| 14:48.08 | jcgrv | just the router, everything else works |
| 14:48.23 | module000 | jcgrv: does the router have a whitelist of any sort as to who can access it's web interface? |
| 14:48.36 | jcgrv | not to my knowledge |
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| 14:49.05 | jcgrv | checked Lenny's network settings. No proxy. Defaults to "roaming enabled", though, even though is a wired connection. |
| 14:49.05 | module000 | jcgrv: googled "linux"+" |
| 14:49.12 | module000 | jcgrv: er, linux+brand-of-your-router? |
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| 14:49.39 | jcgrv | shouldn't matter, router should just serve HTML |
| 14:49.46 | dominique | jelly: thank you, that gave me 4 packages which i then removed... so apache2 free now |
| 14:49.55 | module000 | jcgrv: yes it should, but it sounds like it's not. flash maybe? |
| 14:50.03 | dominique | ranix thank you, tried the other solution to learn what i'm doing |
| 14:50.23 | ranix | np |
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| 14:52.40 | abrotman | dominique: now install apache2 again .. let's start clean |
| 14:52.56 | jcgrv | it has to be a problem w/the network settings but I can't put my finger on it. 192.168.10.1 is set up as the DNS address. |
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| 14:55.23 | dominique | abrotman ok - just doing aptitude install apache2 |
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| 14:56.25 | module000 | jcgrv: dns shouldnt' be important in this issue, you should just be typign the gateway into your browser |
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| 14:57.14 | rumpsy | !hi |
| 14:57.14 | dpkg | hello, rumpsy |
| 14:57.23 | dominique | abrotman it just told me after install: Starting web server: apache2[Thu Oct 29 15:55:42 2009] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts |
| 14:57.44 | rumpsy | abrotman: hi |
| 14:57.48 | abrotman | dominique: you did purge apache2.2-common .. right ? |
| 14:57.48 | dominique | abrotman so that's exactly where the mess started... |
| 14:57.48 | markybob | dominique, did you not delete the config? |
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| 14:58.00 | dominique | abrotman i did apt-get remove.. |
| 14:58.07 | dominique | markybob i'm confused. |
| 14:58.15 | rumpsy | I need to host a ewbsite using apache2.... |
| 14:58.22 | rumpsy | How can i achieve that |
| 14:58.24 | markybob | Dominian, rm -rf /etc/apache2 |
| 14:58.26 | abrotman | dominique: 1) use aptitude 2) you need to aptitude purge apache2.2-common |
| 14:58.28 | markybob | dominique, ^^ |
| 14:58.31 | abrotman | markybob: don't tell him that |
| 14:58.40 | abrotman | then we'll have to go through all the confmiss crap |
| 14:58.46 | rumpsy | I need to host a website using apache2.... |
| 14:59.05 | abrotman | rumpsy: so install apache2 |
| 14:59.11 | abrotman | dominique: do NOT rm those files |
| 14:59.22 | rumpsy | i installed apache2 |
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| 14:59.38 | rumpsy | And i can see website in locahost |
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| 14:59.57 | dominique | abrotman so NO rm -fr, just aptitude purge apache2.2-common? |
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| 15:00.01 | rumpsy | now i need to host using apache ;) |
| 15:00.06 | abrotman | dominique: yes |
| 15:00.08 | rumpsy | now i need to host using apache :) |
| 15:00.18 | abrotman | rumpsy: stop already |
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| 15:00.37 | dominique | abrotman done. |
| 15:00.46 | dominique | so aptitude install apache2 once again? |
| 15:00.52 | rumpsy | :( what |
| 15:01.02 | abrotman | dominique: are there any files left in /etc/apache2/ or is the directory gone? |
| 15:01.44 | dominique | abrotman 90% is gone... only this path is still in there: /etc/apache2/mods-available/ and 2 files inside |
| 15:02.00 | abrotman | what is in there? |
| 15:02.10 | ranix | I have two identical systems. *completely* identical, except for the hard disks (one is raid5 and the other one is one big drive). They have nearly-identical filesystems - one machine is the same state as the other was last night. I want to synchronize the sql databases on the two machines to be current for today. Should I rsync a directory, or is there a more correct way to do that? If so, which directory or what way? |
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| 15:02.19 | dominique | abrotman: php5.conf php5.load |
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| 15:02.31 | abrotman | dominique: is libapache2-mod-php5 still installed ? |
| 15:02.54 | jelly | ranix: "sql"? |
| 15:03.05 | ranix | jelly: sorry, mysql |
| 15:03.08 | jcgrv | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:03.14 | ethanol | is there a way to find out which packages have been installed since basic install? |
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| 15:03.33 | rumpsy | Any help... |
| 15:03.46 | dominique | abrotman dpkg -l libapache2-mod-php5|grep ^.i says it's not there |
| 15:03.51 | AmokPaule | is it possible to just install a single packet and dependencies from testing into stable? |
| 15:03.56 | jelly | ranix: which backend? If it's myisam, yeah, you can stop the servers, copy/sync the db directory, and bring it back |
| 15:04.17 | abrotman | dominique: well .. we'll take care of php5 later .. rm -r /etc/apache2/ |
| 15:04.23 | dominique | abrotman ok :) |
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| 15:04.33 | rumpsy | for me? |
| 15:04.44 | dominique | abrotman i'm ready and i do appreciate your help |
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| 15:04.54 | abrotman | dominique: so /etc/apache2/ is gone ? |
| 15:04.58 | dominique | yes |
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| 15:05.12 | abrotman | dominique: aptitude install apache2 |
| 15:05.18 | rumpsy | i'm having everyting.. apache2, php, mysql..... all i want is just to host using apache |
| 15:05.45 | ethanol | 29 Oct 16:05:37 ntpdate[5849]: no servers can be used, exiting |
| 15:05.47 | ethanol | que? :< |
| 15:05.48 | dominique | abrotman it's up... not a single vhost error this time |
| 15:05.58 | abrotman | dominique: and it's working ? |
| 15:06.07 | hardbop200 | I have a scsi Sony optical drive I'm trying to use under Lenny. the kernel sees the scsi controller (scsi0), but doesn't assign the drive to anything (that I can tell)...can someone point me towards something to Google for? |
| 15:06.07 | abrotman | ethanol: use ntp |
| 15:06.15 | dominique | abrotman nope :( just checked and still same error in ff |
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| 15:06.20 | ethanol | ntp command not found |
| 15:06.24 | abrotman | dominique: and that error is ? |
| 15:06.28 | abrotman | !tell ethanol about set the time |
| 15:06.31 | jorginator | hardbop200: Do you get a file in /dev - e.g. /dev/scd0 ? |
| 15:06.36 | dominique | abrotman: The requested URL /apache2-default/ was not found on this server. |
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| 15:06.51 | abrotman | dominique: grep -Ri redirect /etc/apache2/ |
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| 15:06.55 | hardbop200 | jorginator: looking... |
| 15:06.57 | ethanol | I did install ntp abrotman |
| 15:07.04 | dominique | but at least this looks better now: |
| 15:07.06 | abrotman | ethanol: that's all you should have to do |
| 15:07.07 | dominique | # /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
| 15:07.07 | dominique | Restarting web server: apache2 ... waiting .. |
| 15:07.12 | ethanol | I have some servers listed ntp.conf |
| 15:07.14 | ethanol | oh |
| 15:07.18 | ethanol | I thought I could run it manually too |
| 15:07.28 | abrotman | you can if you need to |
| 15:07.42 | ethanol | just wanted to check, no need I guess (: |
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| 15:07.45 | hardbop200 | jorginator: no, it isn't there |
| 15:07.56 | dominique | abrotman many hits but all within this path: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/setenvif.conf plus 2 more in docs |
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| 15:08.42 | jorginator | hardbop200: do you get anything in /var/log/syslog about it? |
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| 15:08.55 | abrotman | dominique: mkdir -p /var/www/apache-default/ && echo "<h2>Hi!</h2>" > /var/www/apache2-default/index.html |
| 15:09.17 | hardbop200 | jorginator: checking...I should have checked syslog before, very newb mistake |
| 15:09.19 | gothenburg | :s |
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| 15:09.39 | jorginator | hardbop200: also: anything else connected to the scsi controller (it woudl be nice to make sure that the controller actually works before starting on the attached devices) |
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| 15:09.52 | ranix | jelly: it is myisam |
| 15:10.04 | hardbop200 | jorginator: no, nothing else |
| 15:10.07 | dominique | abrotman: -bash: !: event not found (i tried to escape that ! too) |
| 15:10.18 | abrotman | huh? |
| 15:10.29 | abrotman | oh |
| 15:10.32 | abrotman | just take out the ! |
| 15:10.34 | jorginator | hardbop200: Then we first need to make sure that the kernel recognises the scsi controller.... |
| 15:10.36 | dominique | abrotman then i get -bash: /var/www/apache2-default/index.html: No such file or directory |
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| 15:10.50 | abrotman | oh crap |
| 15:10.55 | ranix | perfect, thanks for the help jelly |
| 15:11.00 | abrotman | dominique: mkdir -p /var/www/apache2-default/ && echo "<h2>Hi</h2>" > /var/www/apache2-default/index.html |
| 15:11.02 | dominique | don't you think it's a *broken* apache2 on lenny? |
| 15:11.03 | jorginator | hardbop200: what sort of scsi controller? (make / model?) |
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| 15:11.13 | abrotman | dominique: i've never had this happen |
| 15:11.18 | ranix | I was trying to rsync that directory without stopping the servers and changes weren't being carried |
| 15:11.22 | ranix | oops |
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| 15:11.30 | hardbop200 | Adaptec 2940 SCSI adapter |
| 15:11.37 | dominique | abrotman: The requested URL /apache2-default/ was not found on this server. |
| 15:11.50 | hardbop200 | jorginator: Adaptec 2940 SCSI adapter |
| 15:11.59 | abrotman | but it did create the file this time? check the error log |
| 15:12.07 | dominique | abrotman yes, it created just fine |
| 15:12.11 | StrangeCharm | how can i convert a dm-crypt volume from using passphrase authentication to mount at boot, to using key-files instead? |
| 15:12.36 | jorginator | hardbop200: is the controller listed in /proc/scsi/scsi ? |
| 15:12.37 | dominique | abrotman nothing in log, just info about restart |
| 15:12.49 | abrotman | dominique: is this machine public ? |
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| 15:13.23 | hardbop200 | jorginator: ahh, it is not, only the internal SATA drive is listed |
| 15:13.25 | dominique | abrotman yes but i didn't bound the domain yet, using raw ip to access www |
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| 15:13.36 | abrotman | that's okay |
| 15:13.39 | jorginator | that means that the kernel hasn't seen the controller.... |
| 15:13.54 | abrotman | dominique: you can msg me the IP if you don't want it in the channel |
| 15:14.04 | dominique | abrotman ok |
| 15:14.07 | jorginator | hardbop200: that means that the kernel hasn't seen the controller.... - how is it connected ? (pci?) |
| 15:14.49 | hardbop200 | jorginator: dmesg lists scsi0 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 7.0, which makes me think it sees something? |
| 15:14.51 | abrotman | dominique: are you 100% sure you are working on the same box you're trying to access ? |
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| 15:15.03 | dominique | abrotman hm... i didn't tell apache2 to listen on that ip yet... |
| 15:15.09 | dominique | still it does, wtf? :/ |
| 15:15.20 | dominique | err it does listen * by default |
| 15:15.24 | abrotman | right |
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| 15:15.27 | dominique | so ok, it doesn't matter much |
| 15:15.39 | abrotman | but it should still be logging the attempts |
| 15:15.44 | teratoma | I'm running Testing, I'm trying to install nagios3, i keep getting this error, how can I get past this? http://pastebin.com/m5a16e8b6 |
| 15:15.49 | jorginator | hardbop200: hm... strange.... |
| 15:16.14 | hardbop200 | jorginator: I agree... |
| 15:16.15 | dominique | abrotman trust me, nothing in the error.log, i'm tailing -f |
| 15:16.16 | Rapp | *sigh* virtualbox + debian + bridged networking is a PITA... almost giving up. |
| 15:16.36 | dominique | Rapp i did it 2 years ago... |
| 15:16.49 | dominique | talk to vbox guys, they will help for sure |
| 15:16.53 | jorginator | hardbop200: try this: "dmesg -c; rmmod aic7xxx; modprobe aic7xxx; dmeseg" - basically remove and re-load the kernel modules. Hopefully this will produce some interesting output that can help... |
| 15:16.54 | abrotman | dominique: it takes a bit to log to the error log .. |
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| 15:17.04 | hardbop200 | jorginator: a-ha, /proc/scsi/aic7xxx has an entry |
| 15:17.20 | abrotman | dominique: grep -Ri apache2-default /etc/apache2/ |
| 15:17.25 | jorginator | hardbop200: sounds interesting |
| 15:17.40 | Rapp | dominique: yeah |
| 15:18.00 | rumpsy | abrotman: i'm watching... proceed to him |
| 15:18.08 | abrotman | wtf ... |
| 15:18.09 | hardbop200 | jorginator: the entry is "0", lists the Adaptec controller, allocated SCBs, target negotiation settings, lots of info |
| 15:18.38 | rumpsy | Regarding apache2 |
| 15:18.41 | jorginator | hardbop200: sounds like it only lists the controller itself - not any attached devices... |
| 15:18.57 | ethanol | shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory |
| 15:19.00 | ethanol | what could cause this? |
| 15:19.03 | dominique | abrotman: empty result.. |
| 15:19.29 | jelly | ethanol: something deleting the directory tree your shell is in |
| 15:19.35 | ethanol | oh |
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| 15:19.37 | jorginator | hardbop200: if so, then the controller is probably OK. which means that the problem must be in the connection between controller and optical drive - or the optical drive itself... |
| 15:19.39 | jelly | ethanol: does "cd /" work? |
| 15:19.40 | ethanol | durr, I just realized that |
| 15:19.44 | dominique | and still nothing in error nor access log |
| 15:19.58 | ethanol | I purged a package while I was in it's directory |
| 15:20.01 | hardbop200 | jorginator: yes, it appears that way. just curious, the scsi ID of the controller is 7, the drive is 3...are these settings appropriate? |
| 15:20.01 | jorginator | hardbop200: cable check time... is there a scsi terminator on it? |
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| 15:20.33 | jorginator | hardbop200: yep - controllers typically take the highest number. as long as they dont' collide, it doesn't really matter |
| 15:20.39 | teratoma | how do i get paste this aptitude error? http://pastebin.com/m7f6e8e12 |
| 15:20.51 | hardbop200 | jorginator: ok, going afk to check for a terminator... |
| 15:20.58 | jorginator | hardbop200: scsi lun id of the drive is 3 ? how do you know? |
| 15:21.08 | dominique | abrotman you agree that it's not exactly normal for debian lenny users to struggle like this when trying to host a damn website with apache2 right? :)) |
| 15:21.23 | jorginator | hardbop200: (not lun... wrong acronym) ... |
| 15:21.37 | ranix | dominique: depends on whether or not they know what they're doing |
| 15:22.03 | dominique | ranix did you follow abrotman trying to help me? |
| 15:22.18 | dominique | ranix or do you assume that abrotman doesn't know what he is doing? |
| 15:22.30 | rumpsy | i followed abrotman |
| 15:22.51 | hardbop200 | jorginator: there is a physical setting on the back of the drive. OK, the drive has two scsi ports, but NO terminator. this seems wrong to me...I thought the end of the scsi chain *has* to have a terminator? |
| 15:23.42 | dominique | rumpsy so we are stuck.. apache2 on lenny doesn't work as expected and it took me 24h+ already |
| 15:23.43 | l3x | trying to update java. version 1.5.0 running debian need help |
| 15:23.52 | dominique | oh he is gone. |
| 15:24.14 | dominique | ok i think i will just go for etch :( |
| 15:24.36 | dominique | i'm scared to see any more mess like this |
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| 15:25.15 | hark | teratoma: check the bts, it's been reported |
| 15:25.16 | jelly | hardbop200: drives may have autotermination if they detect they're last |
| 15:25.33 | fredl | haha, try Sid is you think lenny's bad :) |
| 15:26.02 | fredl | is = if |
| 15:26.02 | jelly | hardbop200: or sometimes there's a jumper |
| 15:26.24 | abrotman | dominique: which is why i told you to purge the configs |
| 15:26.30 | abrotman | dominique: do not use etch |
| 15:26.52 | abrotman | dominique: it really seems like you're not altering the machine oyu're monitoring |
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| 15:27.00 | abrotman | goes away for a bit |
| 15:27.43 | teratoma | hark: bts? |
| 15:27.56 | hark | teratoma: bug tracking system |
| 15:28.27 | fredl | weird, only 1MB/s with dist-upgrade Hmmm |
| 15:28.43 | dominique | abrotman i did rm -fr /etc/apache2... what else could i do? |
| 15:28.58 | fredl | keeps his fingers crossed the new libc6 in Sid won't bite my ass |
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| 15:30.01 | ethanol | why do I have no /etc/init.d/inetd ? |
| 15:30.09 | fredl | oi! a new mdadm too! |
| 15:30.35 | joltcan | ethanol: because you have a /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd |
| 15:30.52 | ethanol | my bad |
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| 15:31.05 | ethanol | I had to install it first o_O |
| 15:31.24 | fredl | sjeez... and devicekit-disks STILL wants to disable devicekit-disks |
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| 15:31.41 | ranix | fredl: eglibc shouldn't have much difference to glibc |
| 15:31.59 | fredl | ranix - the libc seems to behave so far. |
| 15:32.09 | fredl | should try a reboot in a bit |
| 15:32.11 | ranix | they ought to be binary compatable |
| 15:32.31 | maligor | but they'll diverge in features over time |
| 15:32.37 | ranix | yep |
| 15:32.47 | fredl | I just cant get over that devicekit-disks/dmsetup/lvm2 thing. |
| 15:33.16 | fredl | I *really* don't understand how they can let that trickle into Squeeze. |
| 15:33.40 | dominique | abrotman i don't dare to take more of your time but do you happen to have any more ideas? |
| 15:33.42 | ranix | a few bugs make it through the cracks because of political reasons |
| 15:33.49 | Trewas | maligor: that's not the plan, eglibc should always be just a few patches on top of glibc |
| 15:34.02 | dominique | abrotman i swear i did everything just as you told me and the results i gave are 100% correct. |
| 15:34.11 | fredl | ranix - well I was thinking the other day... I only got confronted with that bug because I built my own kernel. |
| 15:34.16 | dominique | apache2 just doesn't work as it should and no, i'm not accessing the wrong dedi |
| 15:34.28 | fredl | ranix - the dmsetup tools are usually in the kernel's initrd right? |
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| 15:34.39 | maligor | Trewas, I thought they meant to make it a more configurable setup, for embedded systems that is |
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| 15:34.43 | dominique | i'm tired, confused and mad but not so much to not know which session i'm typing to.. |
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| 15:34.50 | fredl | ranix - no wait... the initrd gets *generated* when a new kernel gets installed |
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| 15:35.04 | ranix | yes |
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| 15:35.39 | Trewas | maligor: mainly eglibc is a workaround for a major bug in glibc, ulrich drepper (the glibc maintainer) |
| 15:35.41 | dominique | this is the first time i'm trying lenny... VERY disappointed. i expected hells know what and what i got is a broken apache2, prolly the most popular package on debian |
| 15:35.52 | fredl | ranix - so if somebody doesn't pay attention, does a dist-upgrade on squeeze and doesn't notice dmsetup is gone now, they're going to end up with an initrd that can't have an lvm2 root |
| 15:35.52 | ranix | dominique: calm down bro |
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| 15:36.12 | fredl | dominique, sometimes shit just happens. |
| 15:36.25 | petemc | apache2 works fine for me on lenny |
| 15:36.30 | fredl | dominique - I'd try helping you if I wouldn't need to go in a few minutes. |
| 15:36.31 | dominique | fredl shit on a newly installed box where apache2 is the only package i installed? besides php and mysql |
| 15:36.48 | azeem_ | "besides php and mysql" |
| 15:36.50 | dominique | fredl i do appreciate |
| 15:37.02 | ranix | fredl: the core problem is udev |
| 15:37.06 | ranix | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=545032 |
| 15:37.06 | fredl | dominique, yes, sometimes it happens. I think you must have a local issue though, really. |
| 15:37.11 | dominique | azeem if that's not enough i started from scratch with apache2, same crap. |
| 15:37.36 | smacnay | fredl, I noticed the missing dmsetup but have been keeping my updates to "safe-upgrade". So far, so good. |
| 15:37.45 | dominique | it's a leased box from OVH... do you expect them to have broken the distro like this? |
| 15:37.59 | fredl | ranix - oh about that dmsetup you mean? yeah I figured that much. But the devicekit-disks guy either doesn't want to back off or just really doesn't get it that his pkg should poke around in udev's files. |
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| 15:38.06 | azeem | dominique: apparently you mis-configured it |
| 15:38.13 | dominique | look, so far no one managed to sort out the problem, even abrotman |
| 15:38.25 | dominique | and still i get "calm down" and "depends if you know what you're doing" |
| 15:38.33 | dominique | so what am i doing wrong? |
| 15:38.45 | dominique | just tell me and i will shut up and go back to the rest of the setup happily |
| 15:38.47 | fredl | dominique, alright lemme try and take a stab at it, what's the problem? |
| 15:39.02 | dominique | fredl can you really do that? you said you were busy |
| 15:39.10 | fredl | (and no I'm not going to scroll up all the way :) |
| 15:39.32 | dominique | fredl the thing is that i did aptitude install apache2 on a fresh installed lenny box and apache won't serve as expected, this is what i get when accessing the root of the site: |
| 15:39.34 | fredl | well start typin' your problem and I'll be back in a few minutes. |
| 15:39.59 | dominique | Not Found |
| 15:40.00 | dominique | The requested URL /apache2-default/ was not found on this server. |
| 15:40.16 | dominique | and that's pretty much the problem, no matter what we tried - same shit. |
| 15:40.36 | dominique | abrotman spent 1h+ trying to help telling me to do many nice tricks - still same shit. |
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| 15:40.41 | lesiuk | haha |
| 15:41.08 | lesiuk | haha |
| 15:41.20 | azeem | lesiuk: do you have a Debian question? |
| 15:41.30 | dominique | azeem apparently not :) |
| 15:41.41 | lesiuk | no, i test onlymy irssi script |
| 15:41.46 | lesiuk | sorry |
| 15:41.58 | azeem | lesiuk: don't test it here, then |
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| 15:42.06 | fredl | dominique - hmm but apache does start up.... |
| 15:42.06 | dominique | why not #test then |
| 15:42.19 | dominique | fredl yes it does and without errors, config files are untouched |
| 15:42.24 | lesiuk | ok |
| 15:42.26 | lesiuk | thanks |
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| 15:42.44 | fredl | dominique - sorry I just walked over to my wife, I need to go pick up my daughter as my wife isn't feeling too good. |
| 15:43.02 | dominique | fredl i do understand :) and my child is ill :( |
| 15:43.17 | fredl | dominique, so after dinner I'll help you if you can wait okay? should take about 1 1/2 hour. |
| 15:43.30 | ranix | if your child was running linux, she wouldn't have gotten a virus |
| 15:43.30 | dominique | fredl i will be around and do appreciate |
| 15:43.32 | fredl | if you're still here then and haven't killed anybody yet :) |
| 15:43.34 | dominique | and i do* |
| 15:43.45 | smacnay | dominique, is there not a script you need to run to add specific web pages to the apache server? |
| 15:43.48 | dominique | i will just calm down.. |
| 15:44.09 | dominique | smacnay i don't know... on etch it used to _just work_ |
| 15:44.11 | fredl | ranix - ROTFL |
| 15:44.16 | dominique | ranix :) |
| 15:44.26 | dominique | ranix and it's he :) |
| 15:44.27 | fredl | alright, I'm off :-) |
| 15:44.33 | dominique | fredl have fun |
| 15:44.38 | smacnay | ranix, although that might seem sunny, when you have a small child that is sick, jokes like that can just turn the stomach. |
| 15:44.54 | fredl | yeah right, picking up my daughter at a friend's home is my idea of fun :P |
| 15:45.00 | fredl | well it's not so bad I guess :) |
| 15:45.01 | smacnay | sunny/funny |
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| 15:45.23 | dominique | smacnay wish it was as easy as rm -fr /cough /cold and such :) |
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| 15:45.51 | smacnay | dominique, I hear you |
| 15:45.57 | ranix | rootkitdetect |
| 15:46.09 | ranix | apply patches, pat on the back |
| 15:46.14 | smacnay | dominique, did you run the a2emnod script to enable the necessary module to get the server to serve a page? |
| 15:46.23 | dominique | smacnay never... |
| 15:46.27 | dominique | do i really need to do that? |
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| 15:46.35 | dominique | this is the first time i hear about it... |
| 15:46.36 | smacnay | dominique, I needed to do that to get my apache to work. |
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| 15:46.42 | dominique | smacnay doh :(( |
| 15:46.48 | dominique | smacnay and no one told me since last night :( |
| 15:47.00 | smacnay | dominique, do a man on that command. Do you have a site or page ready to serve? |
| 15:47.08 | dominique | # a2emnod |
| 15:47.08 | dominique | -bash: a2emnod: command not found |
| 15:47.14 | dominique | it's not there |
| 15:47.26 | smacnay | dominique, although apache runs out of the box, there are some setups needed. |
| 15:47.30 | smacnay | a2enmod |
| 15:47.36 | smacnay | apache 2 enable module |
| 15:47.45 | dominique | smacnay i'm very confused... never heard of that nor used it on etch |
| 15:47.51 | smacnay | there is also a a2ensite script. |
| 15:48.09 | dominique | Your choices are: actions alias asis auth_basic auth_digest authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbd authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authnz_ldap authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache cern_meta cgi cgid charset_lite dav dav_fs dav_lock dbd deflate dir disk_cache dump_io env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers ident imagemap include info ldap log_forensic mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation p |
| 15:48.13 | smacnay | look up a2enmod |
| 15:48.27 | dominique | i am right now |
| 15:48.36 | smacnay | dominique, you need to run it as root. |
| 15:48.42 | dominique | i highly appreciate this clue, this might be it |
| 15:48.45 | dominique | yes, i'm root |
| 15:49.01 | smacnay | ok, so spell it "a2enmod" and see what happens |
| 15:49.13 | dominique | it wants me to accept * and enable all |
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| 15:49.32 | dominique | or to give 1 of those names above i suppose |
| 15:49.47 | smacnay | dominique, so it is there... read up on how it works - I haven't used it in ages but it is what I needed to run to get my server to "work" |
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| 15:50.16 | smacnay | dominique, there are a bunch of a2 modules - you need to enable... let me look |
| 15:50.49 | dominique | smacnay i really appreciate |
| 15:50.52 | petemc | you dont need any of this to serve up the default 'it works!' page |
| 15:51.00 | dominique | i just tried 1 of them but no banana yet |
| 15:51.05 | dominique | petemc hm |
| 15:51.14 | dominique | so why wouldn't it just work (tm) |
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| 15:51.28 | dominique | Not Found |
| 15:51.28 | dominique | The requested URL /apache2-default/ was not found on this server. |
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| 15:51.34 | dominique | this is driving me paranoid... |
| 15:51.42 | petemc | dominique: you might be better served spending some time reading documentation, then messages such as "The requested URL /apache2-default/ was not found on this server" wouldnt be hard to understand |
| 15:51.47 | smacnay | dominique, petemc is right, you should get a "It Works" message when loading "localhost" |
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| 15:53.05 | dominique | i'm using http://ip.of.the.machine/ and i don't get it works |
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| 15:53.19 | dominique | just that crazy error |
| 15:53.22 | ethanol | dominique: this belongs in #httpd really |
| 15:53.39 | d1b | dominique: firewall? |
| 15:53.40 | smacnay | or an apache channel if there is one |
| 15:53.40 | d1b | ... |
| 15:53.49 | ethanol | smacnay: #httpd is for apache.. |
| 15:53.54 | smacnay | you do need port 80 open |
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| 15:54.07 | dominique | smacnay i do have it open... |
| 15:54.25 | ethanol | I think apache is running fine |
| 15:54.32 | ethanol | your error points to a problem in your vhost configs probably |
| 15:54.53 | ethanol | apache2ctl -S |
| 15:55.01 | ethanol | run that |
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| 15:58.13 | smacnay | dominique, I am not much of one to help with apache but you should re-read some of the docs or the apache web page help files. Good luck. |
| 15:59.11 | dominique | they are just laughing at #httpd |
| 15:59.19 | dominique | asking to let them ssh in... |
| 15:59.32 | dominique | this is not what you expect when you are really tired and clueless |
| 15:59.38 | Selveste1 | how do I report a irc spaming ? to the bot ? |
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| 16:00.03 | Titan8990 | Selveste1, are they in this channel PMing you? |
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| 16:00.13 | dominique | ethanol: *:80 is a NameVirtualHost |
| 16:00.13 | dominique | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:00.23 | dominique | and that's pretty much it... then comes my hostname |
| 16:00.52 | ethanol | maybe you have nothing setup at all |
| 16:01.07 | d1b | dominique: netstat -ptan |grep 80 |
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| 16:01.21 | Selveste1 | Titan8990: Yes, I got this message in PM - <iZmir> http://some-webiste Free Porno Videos |
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| 16:01.37 | Selveste1 | Titan8990: And iZmir er på #debian and #redhat |
| 16:01.41 | Titan8990 | Selveste1, join #freenode and saying something about in the channel |
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| 16:02.28 | Titan8990 | Selveste1, for emergencies in this channel you would use the !op bot command |
| 16:03.20 | Selveste1 | Titan8990: Thanx :) |
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| 16:05.43 | jaggz | anyone use a tablet pc and linux? |
| 16:06.11 | ctmjr | !ops iZmir is a spamming porn |
| 16:06.11 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: ctmjr complains about: iZmir is a spamming porn |
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| 16:06.14 | jaggz | I was going to get a netbook.. something with ram-drive instead of a spinning HD.. |
| 16:06.27 | jaggz | and one decision I have to make is if it should have a touch screen |
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| 16:08.30 | cdog69 | hello debain folks |
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| 16:08.57 | nettezzaumana | hi all |
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| 16:09.07 | cdog69 | I am getting ready to install Debian as a web server and am confused a bit about partitioning. Hoping for some insight. |
| 16:09.10 | nettezzaumana | i need to investigate a NFS problem .. |
| 16:09.31 | j_14 | If a program defaults to a values (lets say, feature "a" is off) but the debian supplied configuration file overrides this default (i.e. sets feature "a" to on). Should the man page say that the feature defaults to on or off? |
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| 16:10.21 | nettezzaumana | my Solaris servers claims, taht one debian host is molesting theirs exported directories by mounting them, but this blooody debian host claims on other side, that has not mounted anything? |
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| 16:10.29 | nettezzaumana | what would cause a problem please? |
| 16:11.14 | centHOGG | hi, I just did a new install and can't play a DVD Movie, though I can play AVIs & Audio CD ok, tia |
| 16:11.16 | d1b | nettezzaumana: linux and solaris lock files differently. |
| 16:11.28 | d1b | centHOGG: you need a dvd decoder :) |
| 16:11.33 | centHOGG | ok |
| 16:11.46 | nettezzaumana | i dont want to become as this debian's server rapist, because it is not under my sphere of influence and i simply need to tell to debian, to stop molesting my solarises |
| 16:11.49 | valdyn | !libdvdcss |
| 16:11.50 | dpkg | hmm... libdvdcss2 is a free software library for unscrambling CSS-encrypted DVDs which is not distributed by Debian due to legal concerns. To get it, see /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/README.Debian or ask me about <debian-multimedia.org>. |
| 16:11.54 | valdyn | centHOGG: ^^ |
| 16:11.55 | nettezzaumana | d1b: i can see now :DS |
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| 16:12.15 | d1b | nettezzaumana: mm? |
| 16:12.36 | cdog69 | I have three 146Gb drives, RAIDed and allowing 300Gb total drive space. The documentation I have been reading suggests that one partition with a swap is one way to go and gives me all the default dir (/dev, /etc, /var, etc/). My question is, when I partition, do I SPLIT each of those directories up into their own partition? So instead of having one partition with directories /var, /etc,... |
| 16:12.37 | cdog69 | .../bin, I have 3 partitions of /var, /bin, /etc. Is that correct? |
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| 16:13.55 | valdyn | cdog69: youre thoroughly confused |
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| 16:14.05 | cdog69 | I ususally am |
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| 16:18.55 | dominique | ethanol i do believe this could be a problem with vhosts but then don't tell me it worked from the start on |
| 16:19.09 | ethanol | hey |
| 16:19.15 | ethanol | I just did lynx localhost |
| 16:19.21 | ethanol | got a shiny blue "It works!" |
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| 16:19.32 | ethanol | so for me it works from the start on |
| 16:19.41 | ethanol | you have a broken alias or redirect |
| 16:19.41 | elfranne | Netinstall freeze on process 724 info kbd mode : setting console mode to unicode (utf-8) any idea what it is ? |
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| 16:21.16 | amitz | what group name allows hot-plugging usb flash? thanks in advance. |
| 16:21.24 | helo | ivman? |
| 16:21.31 | cahoot | plugdev? |
| 16:21.52 | amitz | adding one by one |
| 16:21.52 | helo | yes, plugdev |
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| 16:23.11 | amitz | plugdev, thanks cahoot helo :-) |
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| 16:31.43 | centHOGG | hi again, thanks for the help on playing DVDs. Trying to install HandBrake but it says a dependcy is unresolved... any HandBrake experts here? thx |
| 16:32.36 | valdyn | !tell centHOGG -about smart questions |
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| 16:33.25 | dominique | ethanol if i try lynx 127.0.0.1 i get |
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| 16:34.10 | dominique | hm... it works... |
| 16:34.17 | Titan8990 | centHOGG, is it a debian package? |
| 16:34.18 | dominique | but only LOCAL |
| 16:34.19 | hark | centHOGG: handbrake is not in debian |
| 16:34.36 | dominique | i can't access the site from anywhere but localhost though |
| 16:34.39 | valdyn | judd: versions handbrake |
| 16:34.41 | judd | valdyn: handbrake -- |
| 16:34.44 | valdyn | judd: versions handbrake-gtk |
| 16:34.44 | dominique | after i added DocumentIndex in conf |
| 16:34.45 | judd | valdyn: handbrake-gtk -- lenny-multimedia: 0.9.3-0.1 squeeze-multimedia: 0.9.3-0.4 sid-multimedia: 0.9.3+svn20091021-0.0 |
| 16:34.46 | centHOGG | Titan8990: hi, nah I went to their site and got the Ubuntu AMD64... I dunno if there is a Debians? |
| 16:35.06 | hark | centHOGG: /msg dpkg dmm |
| 16:35.13 | Titan8990 | centHOGG, you need to install debian's version |
| 16:35.45 | centHOGG | thx |
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| 16:40.07 | SonicCereal | What is the best virtualization software for my situation? I have an IBM ThinkCentre server with a Pentium 4 3 GHz HT CPU that does not support VT extensions and 512 MB ram. I need to run LAMP and a Windows XP guest on the same machine. No X will be installed. |
| 16:40.14 | teekay_ | confidential |
| 16:40.31 | azeem | teekay_: ? |
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| 16:40.36 | SonicCereal | I am using virtualbox right now, but that has lots of depdendencies on X stuff. |
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| 16:40.51 | valdyn | SonicCereal: thats some pos hardware to virtualise anything |
| 16:40.52 | azeem | SonicCereal: AFAIK virtualbox can run without X these days |
| 16:40.56 | azeem | never used it myself |
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| 16:41.10 | SonicCereal | valdyn: I paid $99 for it. |
| 16:41.18 | valdyn | SonicCereal: that doesnt make it better |
| 16:41.55 | SonicCereal | I've virtualized on Celeron 1.1 GHz. It can't be that bad. :\ |
| 16:42.09 | SonicCereal | But I understand it's sboptimial. |
| 16:42.20 | SonicCereal | *suboptimal |
| 16:43.01 | valdyn | SonicCereal: whats going to run on winxp, why need it at all? |
| 16:43.05 | SonicCereal | The only purpose of the XP guest is to run magicjack. It will be using 96MB of the host's memory for the guest + any overhead, of course |
| 16:43.11 | valdyn | SonicCereal: not like you are going to get a usable desktop out of that |
| 16:43.57 | SonicCereal | valdyn: It's actually better than the 500 MHz Win2k desktop I have here. This thing can't even keep up with my typing on the screen. |
| 16:44.20 | l3x | trying to update java. version 1.5.0 running debian need help |
| 16:44.44 | valdyn | !java-package |
| 16:44.44 | dpkg | [java-package] This <contrib> package provides the ability to generate Debian packages of manually downloaded Java distributions (JRE or JDK). For further details, read the make-jpkg man page, http://wiki.debian.org/JavaPackage and http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 . Also ask me about <java> and <install java>. |
| 16:44.47 | rudi_s | Hi. Debsecan tells me there is a security update for libexpat1 but after aptitude update I still can't see the security update. libexpat1 is installed. What am I doing wrong? |
| 16:45.08 | valdyn | l3x: read what dpkg said, the sid version of java-package works fine on lenny |
| 16:45.41 | SonicCereal | Magicjack seems to work okay in virtualbox if I'm not doing anything else with the computer, but I'm wondering what will happen where postgresql is doing something or the httpd is busy. |
| 16:45.59 | l3x | how do i ask it |
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| 16:46.05 | l3x | !install java |
| 16:46.06 | dpkg | For the java plugin install either the icedtea-gcjwebplugin (free) plugin or the sun-java6-plugin (<non-free>). For other java programs (lenny onwards), you can install the default-jre package to get install a java runtime, or "apt-cache search java-virtual-machine" to see other implementations. The best options are probably openjdk-6-jre or sun-java6-jre. See also <java alternatives>. Etch users: ask me about <install java etch>. |
| 16:46.07 | valdyn | SonicCereal: the p is the real performance killer |
| 16:46.12 | valdyn | SonicCereal: i mean te p in lamp |
| 16:46.19 | SonicCereal | Right. |
| 16:46.28 | valdyn | SonicCereal: ( if you have concurrent accesses ) |
| 16:46.38 | valdyn | SonicCereal: then your system is going to thrash swap |
| 16:46.40 | probonono | SonicCereal, don't know about xp as a guest but I've run ubuntu in vmware player on xp host on similar hardware which ran quite adequately. Probably more memory though. |
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| 16:47.24 | SonicCereal | So what should I do to make this work better? Throw more memory at it? Maybe buy a machine that supports VT? |
| 16:47.42 | valdyn | SonicCereal: both |
| 16:47.47 | SonicCereal | I guess I will have to see how bad it gets with LAMP stuff. |
| 16:47.48 | j_14 | rudi_s: That happened to me this morning with another security update. I had to run aptitude update 3 times for it to appear. |
| 16:47.49 | Titan8990 | SonicCereal, cat /proc/cpuinfo will tell you if you CPU support visualization extensions |
| 16:47.55 | valdyn | SonicCereal: more memory is more cost efficient though |
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| 16:48.36 | valdyn | SonicCereal: you can try kqemu also |
| 16:49.02 | SonicCereal | Which flag should I look for? |
| 16:49.19 | dominique | ok after lots of hard work i managed to make apache2 work on machine's main ip... but it won't work on ip alias... any ideas? |
| 16:49.20 | rudi_s | j_14: Hm. Tried it several times and I still don't get the update. |
| 16:49.24 | valdyn | no worth looking really |
| 16:49.27 | valdyn | SonicCereal: ^^ |
| 16:49.58 | SonicCereal | Why do I always buy Intel hardware? :\ |
| 16:50.14 | valdyn | SonicCereal: why would *that* be an issue? |
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| 16:50.39 | dominique | SonicCereal because there is no choice? |
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| 16:50.49 | SonicCereal | The seller on Ebay told me the machine was dual core because he didn't know anything about computers and the hyperthreading fooled him. |
| 16:51.09 | valdyn | SonicCereal: that cpu is plenty fast |
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| 16:51.16 | valdyn | SonicCereal: the ram is just by far not ok |
| 16:51.29 | SonicCereal | Yeah, it has half the RAM of my tablet PC. |
| 16:51.47 | j_14 | rudi_s: Its kind of strange. When it happened to me, I checked all the mirrors and the package was there in all of them, so i guess it was not due to one mirror being out of sync. |
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| 16:53.27 | centHOGG | hark: :) I'm stoked I got it installed (Handbrake) thx again |
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| 16:54.06 | rudi_s | j_14: Hm, sounds weird. If anybody knows the source of the problem please tell me ;-) |
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| 16:57.39 | icewizard | can I hide joins/parts for every channel |
| 16:57.41 | dominique | anyone around willing to help with ip aliases and apache2 madness? |
| 16:58.03 | icewizard | wrong channel :P |
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| 16:58.43 | dominique | when i use apache2's Listen to make it listen on ip alias i get in FF: |
| 16:58.56 | dominique | The requested URL /apache2-default/ was not found on this server. |
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| 16:59.11 | dominique | while it works just fine for the main box's ip |
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| 16:59.31 | mibb_ | hey, I've got a 32bit system with 4gb ram, but only get 3295mb and somehow it freezes sometimes... kernel is 2.6.30.1 ... does anyone know how to fix this? |
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| 16:59.52 | dominique | that's what you will see on 32-bit machine |
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| 17:00.10 | dominique | go for 64-bit in other words |
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| 17:03.31 | dominique | does apache2 on debian lenny come with ip aliasing compiled in? |
| 17:04.28 | Titan8990 | dominique, mod_alias is an apache module, it is not compiled in to the application |
| 17:04.40 | Titan8990 | dominique, the module is available from a default debian installation |
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| 17:09.29 | SonicCereal | mibb_: Is PAE enabled? Does your kernel support the physical address extension? |
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| 17:10.15 | SonicCereal | I guess that's pretty much the only reason for 64-bit. Bigger memory address space and bigger integers. |
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| 17:11.29 | mibb_ | how can I actually find on the machine if it supports 64bit, since I just intsalled 32bit right away? |
| 17:11.39 | justin | mibb_: grep lm /proc/cpuinfo |
| 17:11.41 | scatterp | can any one tell me where killall5 is called from during shutdown ? |
| 17:11.56 | justin | scatterp: grep -r killall5 /etc/ |
| 17:12.03 | SonicCereal | mibb_: What CPU manufacturer and what CPU speed? |
| 17:12.17 | mibb_ | justin and thats it? |
| 17:12.22 | mibb_ | SonicCereal: sec |
| 17:12.26 | justin | mibb_: pretty much |
| 17:12.28 | justin | !+lm |
| 17:12.28 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, lm is "long mode": grep -w lm /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 17:13.49 | mibb_ | SonicCereal: intel pentium d 3ghz |
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| 17:14.07 | SonicCereal | I got screwed by an Ebay seller, so I'm stuck with a 32-bit machine for the next three years before my next hardware upgrade cycle. =( No lm |
| 17:14.07 | scatterp | justin, i found multiple files how do i know which one is called during shutdown ? |
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| 17:14.33 | SonicCereal | mibb_: Does grep -w lm /proc/cpuinfo show anything? |
| 17:14.43 | justin | scatterp: who says only one is called? |
| 17:14.45 | mibb_ | yeah its in there |
| 17:14.57 | SonicCereal | Damn seller told me I was getting Intel Core 2 Duo. |
| 17:15.06 | trifler | Is there like a cli based app with which you can resize images (.jpg, .gif, .png) with? E.g. resize original pic.jpg -size 10x10 new_pic.jpg ? |
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| 17:15.49 | SonicCereal | mibb_: You're smarter than me, then. You probably didn't buy from Ebay. I bought Intel Core 2 Duo and got an old 3 GHz P4. :\ |
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| 17:16.23 | mibb_ | heh well but I didn't install 64bit because I was annoyed by all the support from some sides.. |
| 17:16.23 | SonicCereal | mibb_: You should be all set to go install Debian AMD64/EM64T |
| 17:16.31 | SonicCereal | Yeah. |
| 17:16.31 | mibb_ | thank you |
| 17:16.47 | mibb_ | besides that, the only drawback I have is 3gb instead of 4, right? |
| 17:17.04 | SonicCereal | Pretty much. That and big ints. |
| 17:17.07 | mibb_ | because my system freezed few times and I don't know why |
| 17:17.09 | mibb_ | ok |
| 17:17.17 | SonicCereal | Hmm. |
| 17:17.17 | scatterp | justin, true but i need to basiclly know which is called on shutdown or reboot |
| 17:17.38 | justin | !wayttd scatterp |
| 17:17.38 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, scatterp? |
| 17:17.56 | dominique | <SonicCereal> Damn seller told me I was getting Intel Core 2 Duo. |
| 17:18.25 | dominique | so why not just return it? it's a pure nono to sell something that is not what he claimed to be. |
| 17:19.17 | SonicCereal | dominique: Yeah, but I was moving and I didn't have time to screw around. I didn't have the extra cash to pay shipping costs back + wait for my money. |
| 17:19.20 | abrotman | dominique: did you figure it out? |
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| 17:20.14 | SonicCereal | Other than being a P4, it's a really nice IBM ThinkCentre. |
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| 17:20.46 | scatterp | justin, im booted to backtrack4pf (based on debian) with / truecrypted if i reboot i wont cleanly unmount the file system discussed here http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=51204 |
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| 17:22.02 | dominique | why do i get a redirect when using ip alias for apache2? |
| 17:22.18 | dominique | it works on main ip while ip alias listen socket makes it redirect to some madness |
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| 17:23.00 | justin | scatterp: did you read that page? |
| 17:23.04 | SonicCereal | Well, installing old stuff from Sarge to use an old lib just fubared my server. Time to reinstall Debian. =) |
| 17:23.30 | justin | scatterp: grep -r http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=51204 |
| 17:23.33 | justin | er |
| 17:23.36 | justin | scatterp: grep -r OMITPIDS /etc/ |
| 17:24.25 | scatterp | justin, yes |
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| 17:25.04 | justin | scatterp: read the file that finds |
| 17:25.13 | scatterp | ok |
| 17:25.28 | justin | looks like debian already has a method for packages to have their pids excluded |
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| 17:26.11 | dominique | what do i loose if i go for etch 64-bit instead of lenny 64-bit? |
| 17:26.12 | scatterp | justin yes but i need to trigger it some how when rebooting or shuting down :( |
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| 17:26.30 | scatterp | justin, thats what im not sure about i think i need to read more on splashy |
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| 17:27.03 | jpinx-eeepc | dominique: why would you do that anyway? |
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| 17:28.21 | SonicCereal | What is different in virtualbox-ose? |
| 17:28.31 | jelly | SonicCereal: lack of some features |
| 17:28.37 | SonicCereal | Ah. |
| 17:28.51 | jelly | SonicCereal: also, it's free |
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| 17:29.09 | SonicCereal | So, does that mean it will be slower? :) |
| 17:29.48 | jelly | if you think cpu efficiency, probably not |
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| 17:30.05 | jelly | last time I've used it, it didn't do USB2 |
| 17:30.17 | SonicCereal | Argh! |
| 17:30.18 | jelly | that made it 30x slower |
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| 17:30.27 | SonicCereal | I need USB2. |
| 17:30.53 | SonicCereal | I think my device is backwards compatible with USB1.1 or 1.0. |
| 17:31.06 | SonicCereal | It's MagicJack, which is evil. |
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| 17:31.38 | nsadmin | SonicCereal: and if you don't have it you'll need a card |
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| 17:32.07 | poona | I have installed amd64 of debian |
| 17:32.15 | SonicCereal | I hate MagicJack, but I hate phone bills more. Magicjack disables standby on what it is installed on. |
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| 17:32.38 | SonicCereal | nsadmin: A USB 1.1 card? |
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| 17:32.42 | abrotman | SonicCereal: do you need help with Debian ? |
| 17:32.54 | nsadmin | you said you need usb2 |
| 17:33.01 | poona | I restart my system, and then in grub I select the os, which is debian. The loading of debian starts, but then I get a blank screen with a question mark, i.e. the screen is not getting any input |
| 17:33.09 | poona | apparently some trouble with xserver |
| 17:33.11 | poona | I think |
| 17:33.26 | SonicCereal | abrotman: Well, I am offtopic. |
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| 17:33.30 | sthon | SonicCereal: what the hell are you talking about now? |
| 17:33.30 | poona | How do I solve this? By entering maintenance mode? |
| 17:33.43 | sthon | trying to get magicjack working on your debian potato? |
| 17:33.51 | nick_h | when a cron job runs "curl -sS ....", curl outputs "DONE". is there a way to prevent "DONE" from being printed? |
| 17:33.57 | jelly | poona: which debian release? Does alt-sysrq-s produce some output? |
| 17:34.00 | SonicCereal | No, Lenny via virtualbox with an XP guest. |
| 17:34.01 | dominique | i'm putting lenny in a bin... |
| 17:34.06 | nsadmin | poona so you almost get to X? |
| 17:34.08 | dominique | sorry folks :( |
| 17:34.13 | sthon | SonicCereal: ah |
| 17:34.20 | clarjon1 | winces at magicjack |
| 17:34.29 | poona | nsadmin: looks like that, but there is some trouble. The screen is not getting any input |
| 17:34.34 | sigmonsays | wonders why some of his debian machines are missing locale-gen binary |
| 17:34.40 | jelly | poona: or, ctrl-alt-f1? |
| 17:34.43 | poona | If I enter maintenance mode and hit startx, it is the same thing |
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| 17:35.05 | clarjon1 | sounds like mis-configured x |
| 17:35.10 | poona | I thought so |
| 17:35.12 | nsadmin | so maintainance mode you get to successfully |
| 17:35.16 | nsadmin | right? |
| 17:35.16 | poona | Yes |
| 17:35.23 | poona | I enter as root in maintenance mode |
| 17:35.31 | poona | I am at the console now |
| 17:35.37 | amitz | how to upgrade etch to lenny, where the gpgv is already expired? installing the new gpgv package leads to request to install and delete many other packages. How to best approach this short of adding the gpg key manually? |
| 17:35.45 | SonicCereal | "modproeb vboxnetflt failed" Argh! |
| 17:35.59 | poona | nsadmin: ^ |
| 17:36.39 | nsadmin | like they say it's probably a misconfigured X |
| 17:37.25 | poona | nsadmin: any links on how I can get across this? |
| 17:37.33 | hark | amitz: install debian-archive-keyring and follow the release notes |
| 17:38.22 | amitz | hark: oh, wrong package name then. Thanks. |
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| 17:40.14 | SonicCereal | Hmm, networking is disabled in the Debian package of virtualbox. :( |
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| 17:40.35 | unomystEz | potentially a long shot, but anyone here running Debian on PS3? |
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| 17:42.42 | hark | SonicCereal: it's not |
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| 17:44.15 | SonicCereal | Okay, big problerm. |
| 17:44.21 | clarjon1 | unomystEz: i want a ps3 just so i can do that lol |
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| 17:45.21 | SonicCereal | My machine is hanging when virtualbox starts XP if networking is enabled. |
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| 17:45.45 | clarjon1 | SonicCereal: which machine, Virtual or Host? |
| 17:45.52 | SonicCereal | The whole host. |
| 17:46.05 | jelly | sounds like a bug in vbox, then |
| 17:46.25 | jelly | do you get a kernel oops? |
| 17:46.34 | SonicCereal | No. Just locks up. |
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| 17:46.52 | SonicCereal | Doesn't do it on my Pentium M laptop. |
| 17:46.53 | jelly | try starting in when you're in console |
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| 17:47.08 | SonicCereal | Okay. |
| 17:47.44 | smacnay | dominique, how goes the battle? any luck? |
| 17:47.56 | jelly | great, I don't have to hunt for the cryptic vboxmanage command line then |
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| 17:48.27 | asrekdal | hello |
| 17:49.11 | Vasistha | Even though I specify channel 3 using iwconfig, the thing seems to ignore me and scan channels randomly. Anything I can do to make it stop scanning and just stick on channel 3? |
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| 17:49.53 | SonicCereal | Okay, it works with the other adapter in settngs |
| 17:49.54 | asrekdal | thing stick ignore |
| 17:50.05 | SonicCereal | PCNEt II I think |
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| 17:51.41 | hark | Vasistha: what's the iwconfig command you're using? |
| 17:52.09 | Vasistha | hark: iwconfig ath0 channel 3 |
| 17:52.20 | Vasistha | I also specify it within /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 17:54.10 | SonicCereal | dmesg says my ThinkCentre dinosaur actually supports USB2. :) |
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| 17:54.56 | dominique | folks, anyone tried apache2 on lenny with ip alias? |
| 17:55.21 | dominique | apache guys keep telling me to recompile from source... just to get it working, why is that on lenny? |
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| 17:55.49 | SonicCereal | Any reason why there is no USB tab in vbox on Debian even though there is a USB tab on the Windows version? |
| 17:55.49 | dominique | smacnay i managed to fix it on main ip |
| 17:55.56 | SonicCereal | I think I need to hunt down the USB module. |
| 17:56.01 | dominique | smacnay not on ip alias though.. i still get the redirect... |
| 17:56.18 | hark | SonicCereal: the ose version does not support it |
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| 17:56.56 | dominique | or is there a better choice than apache2 for webhosting? |
| 17:57.07 | dominique | in the meaning of compatibility with popular scripts etc. |
| 17:57.20 | nsadmin | dominique what reason do they give when they say recompile? |
| 17:57.26 | dominique | nsadmin no reason |
| 17:57.32 | dominique | i asked and i got kicked out of the # |
| 17:57.42 | petemc | dominique: apache works fine with ip aliases |
| 17:57.43 | dominique | i asked what option do i look for exactly |
| 17:57.46 | Vasistha | SonicCereal: it is probably because you are using the open source version on debian, which does not include that. You can use the proprietary version instead, I belive that will get you what you want |
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| 17:57.53 | dominique | they told me to read docs lol |
| 17:58.01 | SonicCereal | hark: Argh. I should have found that out first. Will the version from virtualbox's web site work? |
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| 17:58.26 | Titan8990 | SonicCereal, deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian lenny non-free |
| 17:58.28 | dominique | yes, i will spend next year studying apache docs just to get my site hosted because of some stupid default mis-config lol |
| 17:58.31 | Titan8990 | SonicCereal, just add their repo |
| 17:58.33 | SonicCereal | I'll add the non-fee sources from virtualbox to sources.list |
| 17:58.35 | smacnay | dominique, but it is now "working" and that is good. |
| 17:58.45 | petemc | dominique: the default config is fine, the problem is you |
| 17:58.47 | dominique | smacnay only on main ip. |
| 17:58.55 | dominique | petemc proove it. |
| 17:59.03 | dominique | petemc i didn't change default |
| 17:59.11 | smacnay | dominique, there is a module to enable redirect, I believe |
| 17:59.40 | dominique | smacnay already disabled... |
| 17:59.45 | dominique | even default site is disabled. |
| 17:59.50 | dominique | i still get the redirect lol. |
| 17:59.57 | dominique | so what part of me is the problem? |
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| 18:00.07 | SonicCereal | Titan8990: Okay, trying that after I remove vbox-ose |
| 18:00.08 | smacnay | not sure... |
| 18:00.13 | dominique | smacnay :) |
| 18:00.20 | petemc | the part that thinks everything is broken when in fact you just dont know what you're doing |
| 18:00.31 | dominique | petemc as i said - it's easy to call people like that |
| 18:00.35 | dominique | it's harder to explain |
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| 18:00.56 | dominique | default configs, default site is OFF and i still get the redirect, can you explain it? |
| 18:01.07 | dominique | while it happens only on ip alias on that box |
| 18:01.24 | dominique | any logical explanation? |
| 18:01.42 | dominique | if so, why is everyone like pffft instead of telling me |
| 18:01.53 | petemc | have you confirmed you have the ip alias working correctly? |
| 18:02.09 | dominique | i can ping it and ssh to it |
| 18:02.13 | dominique | so yes, it kind of works |
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| 18:02.57 | petemc | apache doesnt care about whether an ip is an alias or not |
| 18:02.58 | dominique | i also did a grep -iR /etc/apache2 for redirect |
| 18:03.19 | dominique | petemc i think so too, whatever you think i'm not an idiot... |
| 18:03.30 | dominique | somehow there were no probs like this on etch at all |
| 18:03.52 | nsadmin | so you could go back to that |
| 18:03.58 | dominique | i was considering it |
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| 18:04.03 | abrotman | please don't |
| 18:04.12 | dominique | abrotman you are the only reason i didn't already |
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| 18:04.31 | abrotman | because what you're trying to do should work out of the box |
| 18:04.42 | dominique | because i spent too much time on this, i really can't act calm anymore and i keep reading how stupid i am |
| 18:05.06 | dominique | abrotman i think so too |
| 18:05.29 | nsadmin | under etch were you running apache2? |
| 18:05.32 | dominique | btw i fixed the prob on main ip by adding DocumentIndex in apache2.conf... |
| 18:05.47 | dominique | nsadmin i don't really remember which ver was that |
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| 18:06.46 | nsadmin | 2 - 1 + {some pos. number less than one} |
| 18:06.49 | dominique | how do i check if ip alias is compiled in in default apache2 on lenny? |
| 18:07.11 | nsadmin | do you have backups? |
| 18:07.19 | dominique | i googled a suggestion that ip alias option is missing |
| 18:08.09 | nsadmin | as far as I know IP alias is a feature of the core networking code |
| 18:08.22 | dominique | basically apache2 on lenny won't work properly with ip alias. period. default configs pretty much, even default site is disabled now and i still get the redirect instead of what sits in /var/www |
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| 18:08.56 | dominique | nsadmin you see.. then apache guys in #httpd told me a bunch of crap |
| 18:09.17 | dominique | because they suggested to recompile too |
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| 18:09.40 | nsadmin | do you have backups? |
| 18:09.41 | dominique | abrotman... but why not etch? |
| 18:09.46 | dominique | nsadmin not locally. |
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| 18:10.26 | nsadmin | but you do have them? how important is the site(s)? |
| 18:11.04 | abrotman | dominique: support for etch will end in 4-5 months .. you'll have no security patches then |
| 18:11.38 | SonicCereal | What about Sarge?! |
| 18:11.42 | nsadmin | so you have a little time to run a test server and solve the problem there |
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| 18:11.59 | nsadmin | SonicCereal sarge is all done |
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| 18:12.07 | abrotman | SonicCereal: stop trolling |
| 18:12.07 | nsadmin | stick a fork in it |
| 18:12.11 | SonicCereal | My PPC PowerPC machine with Sarge is unsupported now. :( |
| 18:12.31 | azeem | SonicCereal: that's not exactly news |
| 18:12.38 | SonicCereal | Oh well, it's time to throw away PPC. |
| 18:12.57 | SonicCereal | It was just a G3. |
| 18:13.41 | dominique | abrotman when i telnet to the aliased ip... GET /... i get 302 |
| 18:14.01 | SonicCereal | Hmm, 465MB of dependencies to install virtualbox-3.0. :o |
| 18:14.07 | nsadmin | dominique: how important is the site? |
| 18:14.29 | dominique | nsadmin it should be up last night... |
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| 18:14.49 | dominique | nsadmin it's the part of a project though.. which can't exist without it |
| 18:15.20 | nsadmin | is it for work? |
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| 18:15.40 | jelly | dominique: did you tell the correct Host: header when you telnetted? |
| 18:15.41 | abrotman | dominique: ps -ef | grep apache .. show anything ? |
| 18:15.43 | dominique | ok so basically, if i get a redirect (moved) to /var/www/apache2-default... why wouldn't it read index.html from it? |
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| 18:16.09 | jelly | dominique: which vhost access.log did that access end up in? |
| 18:16.10 | dominique | abrotman 4 of them |
| 18:16.18 | DeeTah | after installing resolvconf, a few apps such as arora, sonata or ssh fail to resolve DNS names, what should I try? |
| 18:16.21 | dominique | jelly i have no vhosts |
| 18:16.23 | abrotman | dominique: show us one of the lines |
| 18:16.26 | jelly | dominique: why? |
| 18:16.31 | SonicCereal | dominique: Try lighttpd. The guys in #apachehttpd are mostly trolls. |
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| 18:16.46 | dominique | root 28488 1 0 18:45 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start |
| 18:16.46 | dominique | www-data 28490 28488 0 18:45 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start |
| 18:16.53 | dominique | and 2 more www-data guys |
| 18:16.56 | DeeTah | for example opera or resolveip resolves DNS with no problems, but ssh says "Name or service not known" |
| 18:16.57 | nsadmin | see, I think that if the site is important, it's probably more important than any debian concerns about running etch which is considered old. you have the choice to restore from backup, I encourage you to consider that choice |
| 18:17.03 | dominique | SonicCereal i realised they are today.. |
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| 18:17.12 | abrotman | nsadmin: he'll have to move to lenny in 4 months .. and may end up int he same boat |
| 18:17.32 | dominique | The requested URL /apache2-default/index.html was not found on this server. |
| 18:17.36 | dominique | look.. it's there |
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| 18:17.41 | dominique | and it says it isn't.. |
| 18:17.48 | jelly | dominique: any proper production setup of apache uses virtualhosts, even if it's just one site, you'll want to set up a testing copy or whatnot. |
| 18:18.03 | jelly | dominique: read your access and error logs. |
| 18:18.07 | abrotman | dominique: and you're still not getting anything iny our access.log or error.log ? |
| 18:18.21 | nsadmin | right, so additionally he should run a test server under lenny starting right now so he can find the problem |
| 18:18.25 | dominique | jelly ok |
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| 18:18.47 | abrotman | nsadmin: Have you had this problem he's describing? I haven't, and I have multiple httpds on lenny |
| 18:19.01 | dominique | jelly: both have no new entries |
| 18:19.17 | nsadmin | it depends on how important the site is... if it's relatively unimportant, solve it here and now... |
| 18:19.17 | jelly | dominique: this is just basic apache debugging... if some url doesn't display what you expected it to, the first thing to do is find the logs where that access went to. |
| 18:19.29 | dominique | abrotman why would i lie to you? what part of this simple setup could i screw up? you assisted me before even and i followed.. |
| 18:19.59 | jelly | dominique: pastebin your apache2ctl -S output. |
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| 18:20.10 | dominique | hmm... i fould something in: /var/log/apache2/other_vhosts_access.log |
| 18:20.12 | dominique | so there it went... |
| 18:20.20 | abrotman | something ? |
| 18:20.23 | jelly | but you "have no vhosts"? |
| 18:20.33 | dominique | # apache2ctl -S |
| 18:20.33 | dominique | VirtualHost configuration: |
| 18:20.33 | dominique | Syntax OK |
| 18:20.56 | jelly | heh |
| 18:21.05 | abrotman | cute |
| 18:21.10 | jelly | that's some messed up config |
| 18:21.19 | dominique | anyway those are old entries in that log... like 2 hours old |
| 18:21.24 | gothenburg | HEJ |
| 18:21.26 | dominique | just checked timestamp.. |
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| 18:21.43 | dominique | jelly i disabled vhosts after million of various tries |
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| 18:22.15 | dominique | btw it works for main ip in this setup... |
| 18:22.22 | SonicCereal | When I used to run a small web host, I found out I couldn't trust Apache to run my CGI, so I wrote my own web server in C. |
| 18:22.22 | jelly | dominique: "it" works? |
| 18:22.26 | DeeTah | any ideas why does networkmanager add to resolve.conf line "nameserver 127.0.0.1"? |
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| 18:23.03 | SonicCereal | The thread-per-client model scaled well with very high end hardware. |
| 18:23.12 | jelly | DeeTah: because if thinks you have a local recursor dns service with resolvconf intergration running |
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| 18:23.23 | nsadmin | DeeTah: because it thinks you're running a dns? |
| 18:23.28 | dominique | jelly i mean i can access site / with no probs via main ip, when i tell apache2 to listen on alias ip it keeps running this redirect madness... |
| 18:23.51 | DeeTah | nsadmin: i am, dnsmasq, but I want to set the dns manually, first 127.0.0.1, second the DNS of my network |
| 18:24.11 | jelly | dominique: what does that mean? connecting to main ip and asking for http://sitename/, Host: sitename? |
| 18:24.13 | abrotman | dominique: what works ? |
| 18:24.16 | dominique | hm perhaps i should try lighttpd? |
| 18:24.36 | dominique | jelly yes, http://main.ip.here/ works like a wind |
| 18:24.39 | nsadmin | the dnsmasq could forward to your network dns |
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| 18:24.44 | SonicCereal | Yes. |
| 18:24.55 | SonicCereal | Lighttpd is way better; Apache is maintained by trolls. |
| 18:24.58 | abrotman | dominique: so just your vhost config is better |
| 18:25.00 | DeeTah | nsadmin: so I should set dnsmasq to forward to my router? |
| 18:25.02 | abrotman | SonicCereal: please stop |
| 18:25.04 | dominique | and when i use Listen aliased.ip in conf... then http://aliased.ip.here/ won't work and gets me redirected |
| 18:25.05 | jelly | dominique: wait a minute there. is "main.ip.here" a numeric IP address, or the site name? |
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| 18:25.25 | dominique | jelly numeric |
| 18:25.27 | nsadmin | DeeTah: it should work without forwarding |
| 18:25.29 | SonicCereal | abrotman: Okay np. ;) |
| 18:25.30 | dominique | no domain added there yet |
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| 18:25.36 | jelly | abrotman: $deity, is that the same troll from yesterday? |
| 18:25.38 | themill | DeeTah: you could: echo -e "nameserver a.b.c.d\nnameserver w.x.y.z" > /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail; resolvconf -u |
| 18:25.43 | abrotman | SonicCereal: if you do not need help with Debian, please be quiet. |
| 18:25.51 | abrotman | jelly: yes |
| 18:25.51 | jelly | abrotman: yes it is, maine.rr.com |
| 18:25.53 | DeeTah | themill: isn't it a bit hacky? |
| 18:25.55 | SonicCereal | jelly: Yes, but I'm benign. :) |
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| 18:26.03 | jelly | SonicCereal: you're an idiot |
| 18:26.21 | themill | DeeTah: no, that's how resolvconf is designed to be set up to add extra bits to the head or tail of the resolv.conf file |
| 18:26.25 | SonicCereal | jelly: =( |
| 18:26.42 | DeeTah | themill: shouldn't it be networkmanager's work? |
| 18:26.46 | dominique | SonicCereal don't play with abrotman.. trust me on that. |
| 18:27.15 | abrotman | dominique: so the main IP works, just the vhost fails? right? |
| 18:27.20 | nsadmin | SonicCereal: do you actually have a debian question? |
| 18:27.24 | themill | dominique: no, networkmanager isn't involved in this -- if you have resolvconf installed then resolvconf is what needs configuring |
| 18:27.38 | DeeTah | i see. thanks then. |
| 18:27.39 | DeeTah | ;) |
| 18:27.54 | dominique | abrotman main IP works very well already (after adding DocumentIndex in apache2.conf) and when i use Listen aliased.ip.here in conf site won't work anymore |
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| 18:28.05 | SonicCereal | Anyway to cut down the virtualbox dependencies? This machine won't even be running X. |
| 18:28.15 | jelly | dominique: just use virtualhost stances and be happy. |
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| 18:28.19 | SonicCereal | I can uninstall stuff I don't use I guess. |
| 18:28.20 | dominique | SonicCereal #vbox man |
| 18:28.47 | cico | while my C program a.out executes, I want to know what is the maximum memory it has consumed in the stack. is there any command? |
| 18:29.20 | SonicCereal | I think #vbox banned me for talking about theology. |
| 18:29.54 | dominique | please don't try that here.. |
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| 18:31.08 | jelly | cico: hmm... perhaps valgrind has something useful? |
| 18:31.47 | jelly | wonders why there's pmap and pgrep and pkill on Linux, but no pstack |
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| 18:32.37 | jelly | cico: ah, pmap isn't bad for showing the current state either |
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| 18:32.54 | jelly | dunno about max used though |
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| 18:34.11 | visof | hello |
| 18:34.31 | jpinx-eeepc | dominique: without reading the scrollback - you might be having issues with apache1.3 stuff in apache 2.x |
| 18:34.52 | visof | is there programs to detect the hardware automatically then install the drivers for it "printers, graphics card etc" ? |
| 18:35.13 | cxyz | How, trying to add a route to a second interface on my home box ... This is best done through the /network/interfaces/, right? how does this look ... http://cats.pastebin.com/d7e20af33 |
| 18:35.33 | nsadmin | cico: write a recursive function that takes an arbitrary typed parameter, a pointer and an integer flag, then pass anything, 0 and 0. inside, if the flag is zero, pass anything, the address of the first parameter and 1. if the flag is 1, return the difference between the pointer and the address of the first parameter. |
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| 18:36.30 | jelly | nsadmin: aw, s(l)ick |
| 18:36.43 | Vasistha | visof: mmm, I doubt it. I could be wrong... You'll probably have to install each one separately. Depending on the hardware, it might be easy/automatic, or more involved/difficult |
| 18:36.59 | nsadmin | use versions of that function to determine the size of various stack frames |
| 18:37.15 | jelly | optimizes nsadmin's tail |
| 18:37.18 | poisonbit | if I'm filtering (all) ICMP at netfilter level... does any sense disable it in /proc ? is a more secure configuration ? |
| 18:37.27 | visof | Vasistha ok, is there program to detect the connected hardware ? |
| 18:37.30 | nsadmin | jelly: that comes from Allan I Holub |
| 18:37.55 | Vasistha | visof: there's lsusb and lspci, that's a good start. There's almost definitely a good dpkg factoid on this... |
| 18:37.56 | Vasistha | !hardware |
| 18:37.57 | dpkg | Before buying any hardware, make sure it's supported by all operating systems you want to use. Ask me about <hcl>. |
| 18:38.06 | Vasistha | hrm, not what I was aiming for |
| 18:38.08 | cico | nsadmin, can't I simply do this: f() {int i = 0; printf("%u\n", &i); f()} ? |
| 18:38.30 | cico | this itself will tell me the difference between the &i of consecutive calls and how far I can go before segmentation fault. |
| 18:39.00 | dominique | jpinx-eeepc hmm... |
| 18:39.23 | nsadmin | cico: I'd flush stdout after every printf |
| 18:39.49 | dominique | all right, no one will help me it seems |
| 18:39.55 | dominique | going back to etch, sorry guys |
| 18:40.03 | dominique | see you and thanks for all the help |
| 18:40.09 | jelly | cheers |
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| 18:41.47 | nsadmin | cico: sure |
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| 18:49.22 | benedikt | any photographers here using debian? |
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| 18:51.49 | mhymn | not a professional but yes. |
| 18:52.36 | benedikt | im not a professional either |
| 18:52.40 | benedikt | what software do you use? |
| 18:53.07 | mhymn | gimp, used to use digikam though |
| 18:53.24 | benedikt | but for raw files? |
| 18:53.43 | benedikt | i used to use bibble, but i want to use a free program instead |
| 18:54.00 | abrotman | benedikt: depends on the camera .. not all RAW formats are supported equally |
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| 18:54.13 | benedikt | i have a semi-old canon 20d |
| 18:54.16 | benedikt | .cr2 |
| 18:54.25 | mhymn | abrotman: thanks :) |
| 18:54.46 | abrotman | ? |
| 18:54.54 | visof | hello again |
| 18:55.04 | abrotman | benedikt: apt-cache search canon .. find something that can read them .. there's also rawstudio that can convert some of them |
| 18:55.15 | smacnay | I have a networked machine with rdp server running but get an "nfsd: peername failed (err 107)" message when trying to connect. Is there a network setting on the server machine that needs tweaking? |
| 18:55.30 | mhymn | benedikt: apt-cache search gimp raw |
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| 18:55.38 | benedikt | thanks |
| 18:55.43 | visof | i downloaded the driver for my graphics card tar.gz extension , how can i install the driver and attached it to the kernel ? |
| 18:55.59 | visof | please anyone direct me |
| 18:56.06 | benedikt | what card? |
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| 18:56.56 | abrotman | visof: you probably don't want to install the driver that way. Which video card is it? |
| 18:57.19 | visof | abrotman intel 82865G |
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| 18:57.30 | abrotman | visof: you defintely don't want to use that file you downloaded .. |
| 18:57.38 | abrotman | visof: what's wrong with the intel driver already in Debian? |
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| 18:58.44 | visof | abrotman it's ok |
| 18:59.08 | visof | abortman now can i use beryl ? |
| 18:59.16 | visof | with that graphics card ? |
| 18:59.39 | ranix | one doesn't really 'use' beryl, considering that beryl is useless |
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| 19:00.36 | jelly | ur mum is useless |
| 19:01.46 | jelly | visof: you just need to make sure 3d acceleration is working |
| 19:02.03 | jelly | possibly install libgl1-mesa-dri and restart X |
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| 19:07.20 | asrekdal | attempting to install a driver configuration for a device |
| 19:07.25 | abrotman | visof: you mean compiz ? |
| 19:07.28 | asrekdal | anyone around to help |
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| 19:07.42 | cico | can I increase the stack available to a process? |
| 19:08.01 | jelly | cico: on the fly? Not above the hard limit. |
| 19:08.09 | cico | yes |
| 19:08.16 | visof | abortman yeah |
| 19:08.17 | asrekdal | explain hard limit |
| 19:08.17 | cico | or any other way? is there a way to increase the hard limit? |
| 19:08.24 | visof | abrotman yeah |
| 19:08.47 | jelly | cico: but in general, man 2 setrlimit |
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| 19:09.25 | cico | jelly, this is a C function. there's no Linux command to do this? |
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| 19:09.40 | jelly | cico: ulimit in a shell. |
| 19:10.07 | abrotman | visof: install it and find out |
| 19:10.22 | jelly | "help ulimit" in bash, it's a builtin |
| 19:10.42 | jelly | cico: also man limits.conf |
| 19:11.01 | asrekdal | ulimit here as unlimited if i may interject |
| 19:11.55 | jelly | cico: pam_limit helps establishing custom values for logged-in users and some services |
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| 19:16.19 | jelly | !install kde4 |
| 19:16.19 | dpkg | The metapackage "kde-full" installs tons of stuff, "kde-minimal" the basic kde4 desktop. For more details on these metapackages, see http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html. As these packages are fairly new still, you will probably do better asking questions in #debian-kde on irc.debian.org (irc.oftc.net). |
| 19:16.24 | abrotman | visof: please keep it in the channel |
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| 19:20.41 | fredl | abrotman - did that dominique guy ever fix his apache prob? |
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| 19:21.05 | fredl | oh I guess not. |
| 19:21.18 | fredl | he's gone huh? |
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| 19:22.16 | bobsaccamano | hi..the middle button of my mouse is not working (tried with xev)...im running Ubuntu (but that channel's full of n00bs)...here is my xorg.conf pastie http://www.pastie.org/675520 (relevant sections)..apparently some Macintosh emulator is messing around with my mouse buttons..so i am about to disable hotplug |
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| 19:22.43 | jpinx-eeepc | bobsaccamano: /topic |
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| 19:22.58 | bobsaccamano | here is my new xorg.conf http://www.pastie.org/675578 |
| 19:23.25 | bobsaccamano | jpinx-eeepc, oops |
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| 19:23.46 | bobsaccamano | makes a graceful exit |
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| 19:24.06 | jpinx-eeepc | bobsaccamano: you want support? Install debian ;) |
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| 19:24.17 | bobsaccamano | i knew that was coming :) |
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| 19:24.39 | bobsaccamano | was banking on benevolence |
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| 19:26.12 | fredl | so did ubuntu. |
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| 19:26.46 | bobsaccamano | fredl, and look where it got them :P |
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| 19:27.13 | SonicCereal | now playing Madonna - Celebration 2009 - Hung Up.cda |
| 19:27.17 | wildc4rd | evening all |
| 19:27.24 | SonicCereal | (LIke A Virgin remix) |
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| 19:27.47 | everwicked | hello |
| 19:27.56 | SonicCereal | Ciao! |
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| 19:28.20 | everwicked | I'm trying to disable some services that I don't need - I've done that for rc2.d but there are some I don't need in rcS.d also - what's the "neat" way of doing it? |
| 19:28.56 | SonicCereal | everwicked: I usually just start deleting stuff from /usr/bin, /bin, /sbin, et cetera |
| 19:29.02 | ruben23 | hi, i have a hardware server i would like to install an debian-server it belong to a LAN, what my options to install debian server on it..since it dont have DVD drive..? |
| 19:29.07 | everwicked | SonicCereal, lol, good for you |
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| 19:29.30 | prince_jammys | update-rc.d |
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| 19:29.57 | everwicked | man'ing it |
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| 19:30.17 | jack__ | my kernel build failed, I forgot to add fakeroot, is there a way to fix this? |
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| 19:30.26 | CodeNinja | has anyone used TST for time tracking? or have a recommendation for time tracking software (web/desktop) |
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| 19:32.09 | CodeNinja | hm, nvm about TST, its kinda fugly |
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| 19:49.29 | Ivan3 | guys, are there finnish debian irc channels? |
| 19:49.40 | Ivan3 | like #debian-fi or something |
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| 19:50.06 | abrotman | Ivan3: possibly on irc.oftc.net .. I don't see one ehre |
| 19:50.08 | abrotman | here |
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| 19:50.28 | Ivan3 | abrotman okay, thank you |
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| 19:51.29 | j_14 | If a program defaults to a value (lets say, feature "a" is off) but the debian supplied configuration file overrides this default (i.e. sets feature "a" to on). Should the man page say that the feature defaults to on or off? |
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| 19:52.05 | fhd | Hi. I'm looking for a way to change something from /etc/alternatives only for me - as a user. Is this possible somehow? |
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| 19:52.26 | fhd | I found this bug report where somebody apparently wanted to add just that feature, but it was rejected with no reason given: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=79292 |
| 19:52.39 | abrotman | fhd: use a shell alias perhaps .. depends what it's actually for |
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| 19:53.17 | fhd | abrotman, I fear it's not that easy. In fact, I'd like to have gvim as the default text editor in gnome for without changing it manually for every single file type. |
| 19:53.25 | JoshH | for some of those things you can set environmental variables |
| 19:54.06 | fhd | abrotman, plus I think it'd be a great feature. I mean just because the admin likes vim (alternative: editor) doesn't necessarily mean every user likes it. Okay, there is $EDITOR for that case, but there are alternatives which are not overwritten by a variable. |
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| 19:54.33 | JoshH | everyone should like vim |
| 19:55.12 | JoshH | those who don't should stfu and use it anyway, or find a new job |
| 19:55.23 | fhd | JoshH, probably what the guy who came up with /etc/alternatives thought :) (s/vim/emacs/ possible) |
| 19:55.39 | dondelelcaro | j_14: it should in general document the difference, btu mistakes ahppen. |
| 19:56.14 | dondelelcaro | fhd: that's what sensible-editor is for |
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| 19:56.58 | dondelelcaro | fhd: most everything that should be user selectable can be done using that, or you can also do it by using ~/bin and having a symlink which links to the right thing (and prefixing ~/bin in your path) |
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| 19:57.16 | fhd | dondelelcaro, dondelelcaro: but there is no sensible-gnome-text-editor |
| 19:57.43 | dondelelcaro | fhd: gnome should be calling sensible-editor |
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| 19:57.50 | MrTorque | can i check out only one file from svn? |
| 19:57.57 | dondelelcaro | MrTorque: you can |
| 19:58.02 | j_14 | dondelelcaro: yeah, the man page for screen says that vbell is off by default, but it is turned on by the global screenrc. So i was not sure if that was a bug in the documentation or simply a case where the default is overriden. |
| 19:58.05 | fhd | dondelelcaro, apparently not. |
| 19:58.13 | dondelelcaro | fhd: then it's porbably a bug |
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| 19:58.30 | fhd | dondelelcaro, at least not when double clicking files in nautilus. they call /usr/bin/gnome-text-editor which is linked to /etc/alternatives which I cannot change as a user |
| 19:58.37 | dondelelcaro | j_14: oh, that's actually a case where the manpage is correct |
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| 19:59.27 | dondelelcaro | honestly doesn't use gnome at all, so I've no idea |
| 19:59.44 | everwicked | I have no nfs filesystems and yet the nfsiod still gets ran during boot (debian5) - how do I disable it? |
| 19:59.51 | fredl | whoops, two strikes for the Netherlands by the EU today. |
| 19:59.53 | dondelelcaro | j_14: a case where it wouldn't be would be where the default was changed at compile time or similar |
| 19:59.53 | MrTorque | dondelelcaro: what is a good svn-client for console use? |
| 19:59.53 | fredl | oops |
| 19:59.58 | fredl | sorry :) |
| 19:59.58 | dondelelcaro | MrTorque: svn |
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| 20:00.26 | MrTorque | dondelelcaro: okay, thanks. i will look for that. |
| 20:00.36 | dondelelcaro | MrTorque: and the command that you're looking for is cat |
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| 20:02.04 | dondelelcaro | (svn cat foo; you can't "checkout" a non-directory, because there's no revision history) |
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| 20:02.18 | everwicked | come on guys.... no one knows how to disable the nfs daemon??? |
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| 20:02.53 | dondelelcaro | everwicked: don't install it if you don't want it enabled, or stop it, or turn the S links into K links. |
| 20:02.57 | dondelelcaro | everwicked: it's pretty simple |
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| 20:03.19 | everwicked | dondelelcaro, there are no script that I can see for nfsiod |
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| 20:03.37 | everwicked | neither in rc2.d nor in rcS.d |
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| 20:03.55 | Mereep | hi is anyone here who can help a newbie having problems with ubuntu? |
| 20:04.31 | asrekdal | debian here |
| 20:04.36 | dondelelcaro | Mereep: #ubuntu can help you |
| 20:04.46 | asrekdal | ubuntu have own group |
| 20:04.47 | Mereep | no one there answers =( |
| 20:04.49 | dondelelcaro | everwicked: that's just the kernel threads; the actual server is started with nfs-kernel-server or similar |
| 20:05.05 | dondelelcaro | Mereep: well, try their forums or mailing lists, then. Unfortunatly, we can't help you here. |
| 20:05.13 | abrotman | Mereep: Ubuntu is not supported here, use #ubuntu or possibly ##linux |
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| 20:05.15 | everwicked | dondelelcaro, right. so to disable those, I need to recompile the kernel with modular support for NFS? |
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| 20:05.44 | Mereep | mhm kay thx anyway ... |
| 20:05.52 | dondelelcaro | everwicked: uh, no; you just don't start nfs-kernel-server. |
| 20:06.03 | silidan | hi, i try to compile a program but i get error messages, how can i get all of them into a log file? (i use a compile script, and > logfile only puts the first line into the logfile) |
| 20:06.07 | abrotman | Mereep: or we could help you install Debian :) |
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| 20:06.29 | everwicked | dondelelcaro, there's no such script in rcX.d directories! |
| 20:06.31 | Mereep | mhm I wouldn't care |
| 20:06.38 | Mereep | its my fiirst linux system |
| 20:06.52 | dondelelcaro | everwicked: then you aren't actually running an nfs server, you just have the thread sitting there to possibly mount nfs directories. What's the problem? |
| 20:06.58 | Mereep | So I dont know whats best for me anyway |
| 20:07.13 | everwicked | dondelelcaro, I don't want it on my ps -A ! :) |
| 20:07.48 | dondelelcaro | everwicked: then modprobe -r nfs; |
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| 20:08.02 | abrotman | Mereep: if you've already got Ubuntu installed, probably better to wait for an answer in #ubuntu |
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| 20:08.25 | Mereep | I've installed it but after bootlogo shows up it just freezes |
| 20:08.25 | phox | hey. is there a standard place in Deb to do something like setting oom_adj for init? |
| 20:08.27 | MrTorque | dondelelcaro: hmmm... i first do need to read some documentation. I will search for cat then. Thanks. |
| 20:08.30 | Mereep | w/o any error message |
| 20:08.35 | everwicked | dondelelcaro, it looks like it's statically linked into the kernel - I'll recompile with nfs modular, thanks |
| 20:08.42 | Mereep | I think no one can help me there ^^ |
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| 20:08.52 | dondelelcaro | everwicked: if you're running a Debian kernel, it's not... but if you're not, who knows? |
| 20:08.55 | dondelelcaro | MrTorque: svn help cat |
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| 20:09.13 | everwicked | dondelelcaro, it's a custom kernel made by the ISP who provides my dedicated server |
| 20:09.20 | silidan | alright i ask more specific: when i want all of the outpur of make go to a logfile how should i write the make line? mak > logfile just puts 1 line in the file, not all showing error messages ?? |
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| 20:09.42 | dondelelcaro | silidan: foo > logfile 2>&1 |
| 20:09.48 | dondelelcaro | silidan: man bash; and read about redirection |
| 20:10.38 | silidan | ok thanks |
| 20:11.41 | everwicked | anyone knows where iSCSI support is in menuconfig? |
| 20:11.47 | phox | or foo &> logfile |
| 20:11.54 | phox | everwicked: you can search with / |
| 20:11.57 | phox | :) |
| 20:12.03 | everwicked | really? thanks! |
| 20:12.57 | silidan | ok, i need to compile an app, but i get the following output: http://pastebin.com/dcf276c8 , qt3 is installed also the dev and headers of it (at least synaptics tells me that)... any idea what might be wrong? |
| 20:13.35 | everwicked | anyone knows what this crypto/0 process is? |
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| 20:14.45 | tote | has something happen to the squeeze repos? no new updates for days :) |
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| 20:14.59 | abrotman | tote: your mirror might not be syncing .. perhaps try another |
| 20:15.24 | dondelelcaro | silidan: running it under LANG=C will help us see what's going on, but just checking, you don't have libqt3-headers installed, or you don't have the right path to it listed. |
| 20:16.16 | silidan | listed where in my PATH environment variable? |
| 20:16.50 | dondelelcaro | silidan: just LANG=C make yada yada |
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| 20:19.09 | silidan | dondelelcaro: running it with LANG=C make didnt change the output... |
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| 20:19.52 | silidan | dondelelcaro: and libqt3-headers package is installed... |
| 20:22.45 | HackeMate | how do i open a .bundle file? |
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| 20:22.55 | silidan | dondelelcaro: currently the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable doesnt contain the qt path... it is empty.... but i think it is normal for debian sid... |
| 20:23.36 | themill | dpkg: tell HackeMate about .bundle |
| 20:24.14 | HackeMate | themill: thank you very much |
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| 20:24.51 | silidan | also one of the include lines looks like this #include <QDateTime> is this ok so? |
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| 20:25.00 | tote | abrotman: hmm all swedish mirrors seems to be out of sync for atleast squeeze :/ |
| 20:26.01 | unomystEz | hey folks |
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| 20:26.45 | unomystEz | im installing debian for the first time, i selected Desktop and it seems to be installing gnome and a tons of other stuff, can I just not install that and manually install Xorg, etc? |
| 20:26.59 | unomystEz | just looking for a minimal installation |
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| 20:27.50 | hark | unomystEz: yes |
| 20:28.40 | unomystEz | okie doke |
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| 20:29.31 | d_b | Whatever happened to debtorrent? I thought it was a good idea. |
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| 20:38.15 | dacs | why in the library i can get to my Debian at home |
| 20:38.24 | dacs | :( |
| 20:38.36 | dacs | anyway around that |
| 20:38.49 | zinx | unplug your debian at home? |
| 20:38.51 | mavhc | get to? |
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| 20:40.57 | dacs | zinx what? |
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| 20:42.24 | zinx | i could ask you the same thing |
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| 20:44.45 | TrueDD | Howdy |
| 20:45.38 | dacs | TrueDD: howdy |
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| 20:46.01 | TrueDD | Hi dacs |
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| 20:47.52 | dacs | !tunnling |
| 20:48.00 | dacs | opps |
| 20:48.24 | alexidoia | hi I am looking for to install a Debian-friend calendar-server that can works with sunbird to share calendar online, any suggestion ? |
| 20:49.01 | everwicked | I recompiled the kernel and the system didn't boot (remote system) - I'm now booting into rescue mode - is it /var/log/bootlog that I need to check to figure out why? |
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| 20:51.47 | nsadmin | everwicked you booted into the rescue mode with the same kernel? |
| 20:52.03 | nsadmin | what do you mean by rescue mode |
| 20:52.10 | hark | everwicked: /var/log/boot, but it's not enabled by default |
| 20:52.12 | everwicked | nsadmin, I think the ISP loads a custom rescue mode kernel |
| 20:52.45 | nsadmin | this is remote? |
| 20:52.48 | everwicked | yes |
| 20:52.53 | nsadmin | you need to be very careful |
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| 20:53.26 | everwicked | it's ok, I can load the system with a working kernel if I have to - the ISP offers that as a netboot option |
| 20:53.35 | EasyTUX | Do you know some good HVR picture tool (qt...) I don't remember... |
| 20:53.50 | nsadmin | welll, I guess that's ok |
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| 20:54.16 | everwicked | still waiting for the e-mail with the ssh password for the rescue mode though... argh... |
| 20:54.32 | dacs | dpkg bot gave me this link "http://www.rzg.mpg.de/networking/tunnelling.html" for ssh tunnel and it is broken |
| 20:54.33 | dpkg | dacs: what are you talking about? |
| 20:54.56 | dacs | dpkg you are broke :) |
| 20:54.56 | dpkg | I resemble that remark! |
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| 20:55.08 | nsadmin | dpkg: life, the universe and everything! |
| 20:55.08 | dpkg | nsadmin: I give up, what is it? |
| 20:55.12 | nsadmin | 42 |
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| 20:57.28 | nsadmin | everwicked: what was the purpose of building your own kernel? |
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| 20:58.42 | everwicked | nsadmin, the ISP uses their own kernel build, optimized to their hardware etc - the problem with it it's got no modules support and there's too much stuff loaded statically - so I converted a bunch of them to modular - I guess I broke it somewhere along those lines |
| 20:59.23 | nsadmin | everwicked: used make-kpkg? |
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| 20:59.36 | everwicked | no, what's that? |
| 20:59.43 | nsadmin | !kp |
| 20:59.43 | dpkg | To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz. You should also ask me about <make-kpkg>, <kp mantra> and <kernel build-deps>. |
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| 21:00.00 | nsadmin | !make-kpkg |
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| 21:00.00 | dpkg | methinks make-kpkg is the tool that you use for compiling the kernel the Debian Way (tm). It makes a package for your custom kernel which you can install and remove easily using dpkg. See http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-kernel.html , man make-kpkg and ask me about <kernel compile> <kp mantra> <kernel build-deps>. |
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| 21:00.42 | nsadmin | trades it for Jessica Alba's |
| 21:00.52 | everwicked | I see - what would be the advantage of that? |
| 21:01.06 | everwicked | of make-kpkg |
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| 21:01.12 | nsadmin | for one thing it builds the kernel into a package |
| 21:01.28 | everwicked | yes, but why is that useful?? |
| 21:01.59 | nsadmin | for another you can feed it --initrd when building so that it builds an initrd meant to mount / |
| 21:02.25 | nsadmin | you just give it all the drivers as modules |
| 21:02.41 | everwicked | I see |
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| 21:03.07 | everwicked | problem is I don't actually know exactly what drivers I need - I only know part of the spec |
| 21:03.26 | kelt | I have an HP deskjet printer... how can I install this in Debian? |
| 21:03.40 | kelt | is there a package or something to do this for me automatically? |
| 21:04.11 | everwicked | nsadmin, ok, so I'm in my system - chroot'd and everything |
| 21:04.16 | nsadmin | everwicked you might need their drivers |
| 21:04.20 | everwicked | how do I figure out why the boot didn't work |
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| 21:04.33 | dondelelcaro | everwicked: do you have a serial console? |
| 21:04.39 | everwicked | ssh |
| 21:04.42 | nsadmin | you can try looking at /var/log/syslog |
| 21:05.03 | dondelelcaro | everwicked: your dedicated server provider doesn't have serial console support? |
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| 21:05.30 | everwicked | what for? I can ssh in... |
| 21:05.33 | Vasistha | kelt: hpijs if I recall correctly |
| 21:05.36 | dondelelcaro | everwicked: for exactly this problem |
| 21:05.43 | everwicked | nsadmin, /var/log/boot is empty as you said |
| 21:05.56 | dondelelcaro | everwicked: if you have a serial console, you can see why it's not booting, because the entire boot process will be output ot it |
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| 21:06.08 | everwicked | dondelelcaro, I can also use vKVM which is basically like a serial console |
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| 21:06.24 | everwicked | hm, maybe that's a better idea for this particular problem |
| 21:06.29 | everwicked | let me look at the logs first, just in case |
| 21:07.07 | alexidoia | ok is there anyone around using calendarserver ? |
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| 21:08.03 | everwicked | not much in the logs... serial console it is... |
| 21:08.10 | twiggz | oh yay, its time for distrowatch to get flooded with release announcements for ubuntu, kubuntu, jewbuntu, ubuntu muslim edition, ubuntu christian edition, xubuntu, poobuntu, etc etc etc |
| 21:08.21 | unomystEz | i need to install a custom kernel right after installation (but before rebooting) |
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| 21:08.52 | unomystEz | do i modify /etc/kboot.conf for that? |
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| 21:10.00 | everwicked | nsadmin, dondelelcaro, how do I enable the bootlog by the way? and why is it not enabled by default? I can't imagine a few lines written in a text file slowing the boot down? |
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| 21:10.54 | kelt | Vasistha: okay... thanks |
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| 21:12.36 | freaky[t] | how do i upgrade to the current testing release? |
| 21:12.39 | freaky[t] | via command line? |
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| 21:12.56 | freaky[t] | what's the testing called? |
| 21:13.08 | abrotman | !tell freaky[t] about lenny->squeeze |
| 21:13.24 | themill | freaky[t]: treat this as a challenge... if you can't work that out for yourself, don't run testing. |
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| 21:13.39 | abrotman | or let me tell you ... |
| 21:14.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | either one works |
| 21:14.05 | themill | bad abrotman! |
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| 21:14.23 | jnassifg | sorry to bother you guys but how do I extract the raw swf from an exe |
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| 21:14.31 | freaky[t] | themill thanks |
| 21:14.42 | freaky[t] | i mean abrotman thanks |
| 21:14.51 | jnassifg | ideas? |
| 21:14.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell everwicked -about bootlog |
| 21:14.57 | monkeyman | hi everybody, where can i find a list of all the supported debian repos; other than debian.org |
| 21:15.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | there are no other "supported" repros, if supported means official |
| 21:15.48 | nsadmin | probably that would be backports and marillat |
| 21:15.54 | jnassifg | sorry to bother you guys but how do I extract the raw swf from an exe |
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| 21:16.17 | nsadmin | what's a exe? |
| 21:16.27 | everwicked | thanks CutMeOwnThroat |
| 21:16.57 | unomystEz | so would it be faster to reinstall debian with Desktop unchecked or to manually uninstall all the unecessary packages? |
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| 21:17.14 | teratoma | what is least disk intensive way of copying a large file from one machine to another ? |
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| 21:18.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | unomystEz, depends on how fast you do either onw :) |
| 21:18.15 | unomystEz | CutMeOwnThroat: true |
| 21:18.19 | unomystEz | it's my first debian install |
| 21:18.23 | monkeyman | CutMeOwnThroat: i'm using unstable version of debian and it doesn't have some packages such as: frostwire, i know i can manually download the package but that's not the point; i want to expand on packages |
| 21:18.24 | unomystEz | i think it installed stuff like OO |
| 21:18.26 | unomystEz | and gnome |
| 21:18.30 | unomystEz | I'm happy with XFCE |
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| 21:18.58 | unomystEz | and gdm, etc.. |
| 21:19.04 | jnassifg | I have a flash game as .exe and was wondering how I can get the raw swf files from it so i dont have to use wine to install it |
| 21:19.05 | monkeyman | nsadmin: marillat??? haven't heard of it |
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| 21:19.12 | jnassifg | I have a flash game as .exe and was wondering how I can get the raw swf files from it so i dont have to use wine to install it |
| 21:19.15 | unomystEz | can I have it auto-log me in? |
| 21:19.28 | Master_9 | jnassig, don't double post :) |
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| 21:20.12 | markybob | unomystEz, you can with gdm |
| 21:20.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | monkeyman, /msg dpkg debian-multimedia (marillat is the maintainer of those packages) |
| 21:20.24 | unomystEz | markybob: how? |
| 21:20.39 | markybob | unomystEz, in the config file there's an auto login parameter |
| 21:20.39 | abrotman | unomystEz: gdmsetup |
| 21:21.04 | kelt | isn't there a way to have a nice GUI or webpage to configure CUPS so you can install your printer? |
| 21:21.19 | kelt | weblogic... webconfig... I can't remember the name |
| 21:21.27 | monkeyman | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks |
| 21:21.29 | kelt | I want a nice webpage |
| 21:21.47 | markybob | kelt, load it up. http://localhost:631 on the local machine |
| 21:21.51 | nsadmin | kelt: scorecard,irg |
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| 21:21.55 | nsadmin | .org |
| 21:22.01 | kelt | markybob: load what up? |
| 21:22.26 | markybob | kelt, umm...that address. in your browser. |
| 21:23.16 | kelt | markybob: what does that do? |
| 21:23.36 | markybob | kelt, are you being serious? it's the web interface that you were asking about. what else would be talking about? |
| 21:23.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | if python segfaults, does that have to be the fault of the python package, or can the program written in python be responsible? |
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| 21:23.59 | kelt | markybob: I don't know the package to install that functionality |
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| 21:24.17 | markybob | kelt, ...it's installed with cups |
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| 21:24.37 | everwicked | hm that's bizzare |
| 21:25.12 | kelt | markybob: actually, I think I found it... webmin was what I was talking about |
| 21:25.13 | everwicked | the system won't boot because it can't mount the root |
| 21:25.26 | pepsi | how can i mount a windows share? |
| 21:25.29 | everwicked | though I've enabled ext3 support :S |
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| 21:25.36 | markybob | kelt, why? when cups has it's own built in web interface? |
| 21:25.54 | markybob | !tell kelt about webmin |
| 21:26.00 | kelt | markybob: yes, thanks |
| 21:26.07 | kelt | markybob: but I wanted more... :) |
| 21:26.17 | markybob | then you should've stated it |
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| 21:26.24 | unomystEz | do i just chmod -x stuff in /etc/init.d/ so it doesn't load? |
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| 21:26.59 | abrotman | unomystEz: update-rc.d |
| 21:27.06 | kelt | markybob: is there a better way to configure samba/nfs/printer shares? |
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| 21:27.21 | unomystEz | abrotman: no command update-rc.d |
| 21:27.27 | abrotman | as root |
| 21:27.31 | unomystEz | ah |
| 21:27.33 | kelt | markybob: forget nfs, just samba and printer shares... is there a nice web GUI for that? |
| 21:27.37 | markybob | kelt, gnome pretty much has it built in if you use it's system tools interface |
| 21:27.39 | syntaxx | is there a way i could toggle the '1' in top command using command line? |
| 21:27.44 | unomystEz | hmm, didn't work with sudo |
| 21:27.48 | unomystEz | guess cuz it's not on the path |
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| 21:27.56 | kelt | markybob: the box is in a closet... |
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| 21:28.00 | unomystEz | isn't there a file I can edit instead? |
| 21:28.06 | unomystEz | i prefer not to use these command line wrappers |
| 21:28.08 | kelt | markybob: it's not coming out |
| 21:28.08 | abrotman | update-rc.d |
| 21:28.14 | markybob | kelt, web? *shrug* i use ssh |
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| 21:28.17 | shivraj | what does c and v next to a package mean ? in "aptitude search" |
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| 21:28.27 | abrotman | unomystEz: it does it the correct way .. if you don't want to do it that way, why waste our time asking |
| 21:28.34 | jeward | I'm upgrading a bunch of servers from etch to lenny and seem to be in a catch 22 due to some broadcom nics. |
| 21:28.38 | shivraj | also what does p mean ? |
| 21:28.48 | abrotman | jeward: firmware missing |
| 21:28.59 | unomystEz | abrotman: how can I list what processes are loaded and are available? |
| 21:29.04 | jeward | The kernel won't install due to missing firmware and I can't install the firmware because the kernel won't install. |
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| 21:29.19 | jeward | What's the right way to do this? |
| 21:29.55 | markybob | abrotman, :P |
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| 21:30.14 | Pudgy | Just tried something new... less *.tex. It actually says you can view next file... anyone know how? |
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| 21:30.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | ':n'? |
| 21:30.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | ever heard of "man less", though? |
| 21:31.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | or 'h' within less |
| 21:31.21 | syntaxx | is there a way i could toggle the '1' in top command using command line? |
| 21:31.33 | jeward | abrotman: I'd run out of space on /boot, me fixy. :-) |
| 21:31.38 | abrotman | whoops |
| 21:31.59 | Pudgy | CutMeOwnThroat: Hmmmm... worked. thanks. Yah, I'm very familiar with both of them ;) (they don't mention how you can handle multiple files though) |
| 21:32.19 | jeward | abrotman: Is this order right? update aptitude, upgrade to lenny, install firmware, reboot? |
| 21:32.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | the internel help of less does, I just checked |
| 21:32.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | and the manpage also does |
| 21:32.46 | Pudgy | ???? |
| 21:32.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | don't you try to lie to me! |
| 21:32.47 | abrotman | jeward: did you read the lenny release notes ? |
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| 21:33.07 | jeward | abrotman: Hmm, maybe not the official ones. :-) |
| 21:33.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | man less ---> :n Examine the next file (from the list of files given in the command line). If a number N is specified, the[...] |
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| 21:33.13 | jeward | abrotman: Did I do bad? |
| 21:33.24 | abrotman | !tell jeward about etch->lenny |
| 21:33.33 | jeward | abrotman: Danke. |
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| 21:34.02 | abrotman | jeward: is this a 57xx chipset ? |
| 21:34.02 | jeward | abrotman: I was missing one step, thanks! |
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| 21:34.42 | jeward | abrotman: The nics? |
| 21:34.43 | Pudgy | damn.. you're even right... I always search (/) within manpages. Tried multiple. I guess I should have tried next. Well don't kill me for that. |
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| 21:35.08 | morfol | hey human ;) |
| 21:35.26 | krisfremen | hey guys, all of a sudden i'm getting -bash: fork: Resource temporarily unavailable |
| 21:35.35 | unomystEz | any safe way to update from etch to lenny? |
| 21:35.41 | unomystEz | I'm on PPC32 here |
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| 21:36.02 | krisfremen | any ideas as to why? |
| 21:36.08 | nsadmin | unomystEz read lenny release notes, I'd back up first |
| 21:36.14 | m3t3or | hello |
| 21:36.23 | unomystEz | or actually, before that, how can I add etch (oldstable) to apt-get? |
| 21:36.32 | rgouveia | hi ... I'm runnning lenny and I can't suspend through the gnome-power-manager. s2ram and pm-suspend work though. Any ideas? |
| 21:36.53 | nsadmin | it's added now as stable? turn all stable into etch, update |
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| 21:37.51 | unomystEz | http://dpaste.com/113929/ |
| 21:37.54 | unomystEz | taht is my sources.list now |
| 21:37.57 | unomystEz | not sure what's wrong |
| 21:38.00 | unomystEz | I can't find snes9x on it |
| 21:38.20 | jhutchins_lt | unomystEz: I did a couple of servers including ltsp and didn't break anything. |
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| 21:38.36 | unomystEz | actaulyl this system is on the ps3 |
| 21:38.38 | nsadmin | oh yeah, that's fine |
| 21:38.43 | unomystEz | i may need to compile a custom kernel |
| 21:38.57 | unomystEz | nsadmin: http://packages.debian.org/etch/snes9x-x |
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| 21:39.00 | abrotman | !tell unomystEz about non-free |
| 21:39.01 | unomystEz | that'st he package im trying to get |
| 21:40.06 | krisfremen | anyone? |
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| 21:40.27 | abrotman | krisfremen: system heavily loaded? |
| 21:40.36 | abrotman | !tell unomystEz about enter |
| 21:40.37 | nsadmin | unomystEz what's your arch |
| 21:40.47 | abrotman | nsadmin: ppc32 .. we already covered this |
| 21:40.50 | krisfremen | no it's not |
| 21:41.06 | unomystEz | Linux debian 2.6.16-1-ps3pf #1 SMP Sun Dec 31 17:35:13 JST 2006 ppc64 GNU/Linux |
| 21:41.08 | unomystEz | crap |
| 21:41.12 | nsadmin | so is the package available to him? |
| 21:41.13 | unomystEz | im running 64bit |
| 21:41.17 | unomystEz | no it's not |
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| 21:41.31 | unomystEz | `aptitude search snes9x` and zsnes show nothing |
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| 21:41.44 | krisfremen | it has quad core and 4 gigs of memory, only 2% cpu usage and 1629900k free memory |
| 21:42.05 | unomystEz | hmm |
| 21:42.09 | krisfremen | i'm really stumped here |
| 21:42.10 | unomystEz | is there a way to boot into 32bit? |
| 21:42.26 | unomystEz | actually nm, dumb question |
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| 21:43.33 | unomystEz | got it |
| 21:43.34 | unomystEz | used the deb |
| 21:43.48 | abrotman | unomystEz: stop hitting the enter key every third word |
| 21:43.49 | nsadmin | is it working? |
| 21:43.56 | unomystEz | abrotman: sorry |
| 21:44.01 | unomystEz | nsadmin: yup |
| 21:44.03 | abrotman | don't be sorry, just don't do it |
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| 21:44.31 | unomystEz | okie doke |
| 21:44.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | see how much you upset him |
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| 21:44.34 | nsadmin | being sorry is against channel policy... |
| 21:44.40 | dustybin | how can one use the mail command to send a message from the terminal as a one liner? |
| 21:44.53 | dustybin | man mail doesnt show me any examples |
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| 21:45.03 | unomystEz | dustybin: echo 'sup' | mail to: fjeiwo@jfieow.com |
| 21:45.09 | dustybin | ohhh |
| 21:45.11 | dustybin | you pipe it in |
| 21:45.18 | unomystEz | what else? |
| 21:45.19 | dustybin | well i never |
| 21:45.30 | nsadmin | you should start! |
| 21:45.47 | nsadmin | and not to: |
| 21:45.47 | krisfremen | any ideas guys? |
| 21:45.56 | i3d | I made a package conflict with another package but when apt remove the other one, it left the conf files. I am wondering if there is a way to tell apt 'purge' remove that conflict package? |
| 21:46.19 | nsadmin | it's echo sup | mail foo@bar.freex |
| 21:46.22 | rgammans | krisfremen: EAGIN is return when you exceed ulimit - (no process) and and don't have CAP_SYS_ADMIN or CAP_SYS_RESOURCE |
| 21:46.30 | fbh | dustybin: krisfremen is it a virtual machine? |
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| 21:46.44 | nsadmin | OR echo sup | mail -s "SUBJECT LINE HERE" foo@bar.freex |
| 21:46.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah, more like echo great deal | mail -u user@somehost -s "buy viagra now" |
| 21:46.54 | krisfremen | no, it's not a virtual machine |
| 21:47.03 | dustybin | nsadmin: thanks |
| 21:47.11 | p3rror | hello, i have a question: did you use htop ? |
| 21:47.24 | fbh | p3rror: yes. |
| 21:47.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | no polls |
| 21:47.35 | rgammans | krisfremen: So check your ulimits |
| 21:47.48 | nsadmin | I vote no on polls! |
| 21:48.15 | krisfremen | max user processes (-u) 14335 |
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| 21:48.45 | p3rror | fbh, i need to collapse cpus display |
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| 21:49.11 | p3rror | i run htop on a intel double six core |
| 21:49.13 | fbh | p3rror: I dont know that sorry, the cpu display is the reson I use it hehe |
| 21:49.27 | fbh | reason* |
| 21:49.52 | fbh | krisfremen: Hmm. Usually it means that it's totally out of resources |
| 21:50.00 | dustybin | nsadmin: how can i send a email with no content, just a subject line? |
| 21:50.02 | rgammans | krisfremen: Yes but how many threads is you user using? |
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| 21:50.34 | rgammans | krisfremen: see man getrlimit - RLIMIT_NPROC |
| 21:50.38 | nsadmin | echo "" | mail -s "subj" foo@som.thing |
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| 21:51.20 | nsadmin | the mail will have content, you can't do anything about hat |
| 21:51.29 | p3rror | fbh, i mean displaying all the cpu stat take the hole of screen |
| 21:51.41 | nsadmin | but the content in that case will be just a newline |
| 21:52.00 | p3rror | 24xcpu |
| 21:52.05 | dustybin | nsadmin: i dont want no echo |
| 21:52.13 | dustybin | ok |
| 21:52.44 | rgouveia | ok ... resolved my gnome-powermanager-problem. added myself to the powerdev group |
| 21:52.52 | pepsi | i need the smbfs kernel module.. how do get that? i installed the smbfs package, but modprobe smbfs yells at me |
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| 21:53.33 | cesar_CR | guys I have this big apt error after trying to install texlive http://paste.debian.net/50311/ any advice ? |
| 21:53.41 | nsadmin | without the echo "" | part, mail will sit there waiting for you to type something |
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| 21:54.01 | rgammans | pepsi: it deprecated in facour of cfis |
| 21:54.08 | rgammans | s/cfis/cifs/ |
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| 21:55.11 | pepsi | rgammans: oh... so.. any ideas on how to mount an smb share? i found http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/165 |
| 21:55.17 | krisfremen | rgammans: where else can this be set? |
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| 21:56.54 | rgammans | pepsi: Dunno , I'm afraid try modprobing cifs and using smbmount. I just use smbclient theese days or gnome-vfs |
| 21:57.28 | pepsi | mount -t smbfs seems to work.. neat |
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| 21:58.37 | pepsi | rgammans: gnome-vfs seems to crap out after about 30-minutes of use |
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| 21:58.43 | pepsi | have you noticed anything like that? |
| 21:58.47 | jspiros | how can I install a debian system fresh on a btrfs mirror? d-i doesn't have btrfs modules or tools... |
| 21:59.06 | jspiros | because I want to do a mirror, I can't convert from ext3 from what I understand |
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| 22:00.58 | rgammans | krisfremen: Not sure where is best for you. /etc/security/limits.conf ? If you want a permanet change |
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| 22:02.01 | rgammans | pepsi: Not really gnome-vfs seems ok. I only use it lightly though I tend to transfer large file thru smbclient |
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| 22:02.43 | pepsi | rgammans: oh :( ive been trying to watch movies and listen to music over it |
| 22:03.14 | rgammans | pepsi: Oh. I only use 'doze for work related stuff these days ;-). |
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| 22:13.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | woops |
| 22:13.24 | JPT | i TOLD YOU not to pull out that cable! |
| 22:13.24 | JPT | *sigh* |
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| 22:13.35 | JPT | xD |
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| 22:15.40 | riz_ | I have a problem with xorg in sid: mouse and keyboard doesn't works. I have recompiled my kernel from source and reinstalled xorg again but nothing change.. |
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| 22:15.41 | dmoerner | how do you change the default sound card? a quick google search reveals that people suggest using "asoundconf", but that isn't anywhere in sid |
| 22:15.42 | kelt | does anyone know of a good way to configure samba with a Web UI? |
| 22:15.42 | babilen | !ops Welet -> turk porn spam on join (as always) |
| 22:15.42 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: babilen complains about: Welet -> turk porn spam on join (as always) |
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| 22:15.42 | tomaw | babilen: ta! |
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| 22:15.43 | babilen | tomaw: ta? |
| 22:15.43 | tomaw | british slang for thanks |
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| 22:15.44 | babilen | tomaw: Ah - ok. You are welcome! |
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| 22:17.31 | unomystEz | I'm on PPC, I installed gcc but it says in my configure script I can't create executables |
| 22:17.31 | unomystEz | any ideas? |
| 22:18.20 | rgammans | look in config.log - for the real error message. but also you could try compiling hellow.c to see what happends |
| 22:18.39 | hark | unomystEz: install build-essential |
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| 22:19.18 | unomystEz | nm, got it |
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| 22:21.41 | jdahm | whats the aptitude option to show files owned by a package? |
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| 22:22.06 | hark | jdahm: use dpkg, dpkg -L foo |
| 22:22.07 | jdahm | ie, what libraries it installs |
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| 22:22.47 | jdahm | where does debian (ubuntu) keeo the deb files then? |
| 22:23.11 | jpinx-eeepc | jdahm: ask in #ubuntu for ubuntu stuff |
| 22:23.21 | jpinx-eeepc | !ubuntu |
| 22:23.21 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 22:23.53 | jdahm | jpinx-eeepc: notice I asked for where _debian_ keeps these files |
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| 22:24.02 | jdahm | since these are likely the same place |
| 22:24.04 | valdyn | jdahm: which files |
| 22:24.04 | prince_jammys | /var/cache/apt/archives (debian) |
| 22:24.22 | jpinx-eeepc | jdahm: not at all |
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| 22:24.41 | rgammans | jdahm: they hang around in /var/cache/apt/archives - but once unpacked are not needed any more their are control scripts in /var/lib/dpkg/info though |
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| 22:24.58 | jdahm | great, found it, thanks |
| 22:25.10 | valdyn | dmoerner: that depends on your sound setup |
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| 22:25.22 | valdyn | dmoerner: theres at least 2 ways for alsa alone |
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| 22:26.40 | calamari | hi |
| 22:27.30 | calamari | I have an obsolete package installed on my system for which I've lost the debian package. I am wondering if I can create a new package based on what is installed? |
| 22:27.54 | valdyn | calamari: that would be the hard way, dont bother |
| 22:27.57 | valdyn | !archive |
| 22:27.57 | dpkg | i heard archive is a collection of files. 'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all archiving tools. This is *not* the same as compression, which is a separate operation. Maybe: http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive or even http://snapshot.debian.net, or http://archive.debian.org/ |
| 22:28.02 | valdyn | err |
| 22:28.05 | valdyn | !ado |
| 22:28.05 | dpkg | Find old Debian releases at http://archive.debian.org/ |
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| 22:28.15 | valdyn | !sdn |
| 22:28.15 | dpkg | i guess snapshots is an archive that contains all Debian packages uploaded since 2002, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way undistributable. Much of 2004 was lost because of harddisk problems. See http://snapshot.debian.net/ for more information. unmaintained since May 2008 |
| 22:28.33 | hark | calamari: you can use dpkg-repack if it's not in sdn ^ |
| 22:28.48 | calamari | hark, okay thanks! |
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| 22:29.15 | dmoerner | valdyn: thanks, i figured it out two ways to do it myself |
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| 22:31.34 | calamari | hark, excellent, just what I needed.. thanks a lot |
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| 22:36.40 | TrueDD | Gnight to all |
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| 22:37.21 | EugenMayer | how would I try to speed up a c++ app ( openfoam.. physical calculation) which runs in the console. Could I try to use kind of tmp which is directly placed in the memory instead of the HDD ? |
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| 22:37.47 | valdyn | EugenMayer: no, not really |
| 22:37.47 | phogg | EugenMayer: do you do a lot of reading and writing? |
| 22:38.06 | EugenMayer | no actually not. More calcualtion...simple formulas |
| 22:38.09 | EugenMayer | "simple" |
| 22:38.19 | valdyn | EugenMayer: reads and writes are cached, and your application will use non-blocking i/o if its not totallly retarded |
| 22:38.19 | phogg | EugenMayer: then no, that wont help |
| 22:39.01 | valdyn | EugenMayer: maybe that app is stupid enough to depend on console speed though |
| 22:39.21 | valdyn | EugenMayer: is it? |
| 22:39.26 | EugenMayer | no |
| 22:39.44 | phogg | EugenMayer: what does it do with the results of its calculations? |
| 22:39.45 | valdyn | EugenMayer: why do you think theres any point in trying to tune it? |
| 22:40.14 | EugenMayer | well because its calculating for 2 weeks. |
| 22:40.26 | phogg | is that unusual? |
| 22:40.27 | valdyn | EugenMayer: if its not a massively parallel app then tuning is in the order of few %, thats irrelevant |
| 22:40.36 | EugenMayer | ok |
| 22:41.07 | valdyn | EugenMayer: while algorithmic improvements could be orders of magnitude |
| 22:41.49 | valdyn | EugenMayer: is it exhausting your ram? |
| 22:42.05 | EugenMayer | I will messure it |
| 22:42.14 | valdyn | EugenMayer: you dont need to really |
| 22:42.25 | valdyn | EugenMayer: you just need to find out if your system is swapping constantly |
| 22:42.47 | rgammans | .. or doing any heavy io |
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| 22:45.29 | valdyn | EugenMayer: also you should know in advance how long it takes if its already taking weeks |
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| 22:47.15 | EugenMayer | thank you |
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| 23:11.10 | _Trinity_ | has anyone gotten pulse to work on lenny? I spent some time got frustrated and uninstalled the ... thing an alsa along with it since my sounds works just fine |
| 23:11.18 | _Trinity_ | alone |
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| 23:15.29 | asdzxc | hi |
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| 23:15.52 | asdzxc | how can i prevent root user from writing to file ? it was possible via chmod somehow |
| 23:16.07 | FunkyBob | chmod o-w |
| 23:16.12 | asdzxc | no, there was a special bit for this |
| 23:16.14 | FunkyBob | u-w |
| 23:16.16 | FunkyBob | something like that |
| 23:16.28 | FunkyBob | need more coffee |
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| 23:18.54 | Xenguy | asdzxc: IIRC there are commands like chatr for this? |
| 23:19.02 | Xenguy | (chattr?) |
| 23:19.16 | Xenguy | to really 'lock' a file |
| 23:19.52 | Xenguy | !chattr |
| 23:19.58 | Xenguy | meh |
| 23:20.03 | Xenguy | dpkg |
| 23:20.12 | MarkGi | hi, is there a way to determine when my scripts in /etc/cron.daily will run? I have unmetered bandwidth after midnight and before 9AM, but outside them times, it's all counted towards my monthly limit. Many of my scripts are updaters and such (spamassassin, clamav, apt-get and a few more), I would like to make them work at a predictible time, or at least understand how daily/weekly monthly work. |
| 23:20.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah, chattr, but that only works on ext[23] |
| 23:20.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually mounting the drive ro prevents root from writhing the file :) |
| 23:20.51 | asdzxc | Xenguy: yes, that it |
| 23:20.58 | asdzxc | Xenguy: chattr -i (immutable) |
| 23:20.59 | asdzxc | thnx |
| 23:21.03 | Xenguy | yw |
| 23:21.38 | abrotman | MarkGi: so uh .. schedule them for the time you want them to run |
| 23:21.51 | j_14 | MarkGi: it depends, if you turn off your machine, your dailies will run 5 min after you boot, weekly 10 min, and monthly 15 min (or something like that) |
| 23:22.14 | j_14 | MarkGi: thats when they are run by anacron |
| 23:22.49 | j_14 | MarkGi: if you dont have anacron or if your machine is always on then you can select the time from your regular crontab just as with any other cron job |
| 23:23.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | grep daily /etc/crontab --> 25 6 * * * root test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily ) |
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| 23:24.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | so crontab -e as root, change the cron.daily line? |
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| 23:25.55 | FunkyBob | I don't seem to be able to find a package in debian which carries the "gio" portions of pygobject |
| 23:27.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | err, no, that doesn't edit /etc/crontab |
| 23:27.19 | j_14 | MarkGi: if you have anacron and you leave your machine on you can control the time the scripts are run by changing the time when anacron will be run (at least thats the simplest way to do it) |
| 23:27.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | I guess one just edits that one |
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| 23:29.16 | rgammans | CutMeOwnThroat: I think cron stat it regulatly. I have seen msg in syslog to that effect |
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| 23:39.38 | imimimimi | I have a debian installed pc (kernel 2.6.26) and during the boot process it is sending some data out of the serial port. I know this because this data is stuffing around with some of my other equipment. Anyone know what modules may be doing this and how i can stop them? |
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| 23:42.12 | nsadmin | imimimimi: find out what it |
| 23:42.19 | nsadmin | is sending |
| 23:42.43 | martianlobster | when I do a "man 2 write" I get nothing found. What package do I need to install for the C standard library? or for the C++ standard library? |
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| 23:43.20 | imimimimi | nsadmin, i dont have a null modem cable with me or the receptacles to build one myself. so i do not know how to figure out what it is sending... |
| 23:43.27 | dondelelcaro | martianlobster: manpages-dev |
| 23:43.35 | martianlobster | thanks |
| 23:43.43 | Math | during my last dist-upgrade I was told a dependency based startup script replaced the sys-v-way of doing stuff, where can I read about that? |
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| 23:44.06 | markybob | uh |
| 23:44.46 | themill | markybob: http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts would be a start, plus documentation in the insserv package. |
| 23:44.54 | themill | gah.... Math ^^ |
| 23:44.56 | Math | thx |
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| 23:47.47 | nsadmin | themill: what are the packages associated with dep-based startup? |
| 23:48.12 | themill | insserv |
| 23:48.29 | nsadmin | judd versions insserv |
| 23:48.30 | judd | nsadmin: insserv -- etch: 1.08.0-11 lenny: 1.12.0-4 sid: 1.12.0-14 squeeze: 1.12.0-14 |
| 23:48.41 | nsadmin | it |
| 23:48.48 | nsadmin | s in etch?! |
| 23:48.48 | alexidoia | hi I want to configure my / partition with extended attribute, will that do : /dev/sda1 / ext3 user_xattr,errors=remount-ro 0 1 |
| 23:48.48 | alexidoia | ? |
| 23:49.38 | themill | nsadmin: but, aiui, you'd have to fix your startup scripts to be compatible with it. |
| 23:49.40 | alexidoia | how can IÂ test if my fs support extended attribute ? |
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| 23:50.02 | alexidoia | how can I writes and then reads an extended attribute on a file |
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| 23:50.24 | nsadmin | hmm, right, and the packaged version of those scripts would be for plain sysvinit |
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| 23:50.43 | dcj1 | hi |
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| 23:51.37 | dcj1 | I have an ATI Radeon 9600 Pro |
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| 23:51.38 | cusco | hi |
| 23:51.44 | cusco | whatpackage provides makeinfo? |
| 23:52.03 | dcj1 | will the fglrx 9.3 driver work on Debian 5.0.3? |
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| 23:53.03 | abrotman | dcj1: you don't need it |
| 23:53.13 | dcj1 | why not, abrotman? |
| 23:53.23 | dcj1 | should I stick with "radeon" drivers? |
| 23:53.29 | abrotman | the radeon driver should work and give you 3d |
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| 23:53.38 | themill | cusco: apt-file is your friend |
| 23:53.52 | dcj1 | I am running Fedora at the moment |
| 23:53.57 | dcj1 | but wondering about trying Debian |
| 23:53.59 | alexidoia | anyone please can give me a tool to check that my fs can accept extended attribute ? |
| 23:54.32 | dcj1 | since the only fglrx version I could get working was 9.10, which does not support my GPU |
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| 23:54.58 | dcj1 | hmm, but is not the radeon driver slower then fglrx? |
| 23:55.02 | alexidoia | anyone please ? |
| 23:55.34 | markybob | dcj1, not exceptionally. radeonhd is probably 15% slower than fglrx here |
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| 23:56.52 | dcj1 | hmm, it may sound very "noobish", but the radeon drivers are about 40% slower in Fedora 11 |
| 23:56.57 | dcj1 | for me, at least |
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| 23:57.12 | dcj1 | I do not know if the distro alters anything |
| 23:57.15 | markybob | dcj1, are you sure fedora uses radeonhd? |
| 23:57.38 | dcj1 | I use radeon here |
| 23:57.50 | dcj1 | but Fedora has the radeonhd driver |
| 23:58.04 | dcj1 | only my GPU is not an HD model |
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| 23:58.29 | markybob | oh. dont know, then. 4850hd here |
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| 23:59.52 | dcj1 | I heard Debian used to have a bug related to ATI GPUs |