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| 00:10.04 | darkblue_B | .. and mono by default.. <clears throat> |
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| 00:12.45 | darkblue_B | .. I think I'd like to turn SAMBA *off*.. I use netatalk, or sftp |
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| 00:15.05 | themill | darkblue_B: feel free to do so. You don't need to tell us about it. |
| 00:15.22 | darkblue_B | I am casting about. I dont know all the options |
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| 00:15.40 | darkblue_B | .. I install three times a year, and this is one of those times |
| 00:15.45 | pbn | Hi, got a problem: when booting with GRUB 2 in 64-bit mode, I get "udev: missing sysfs features: please update the kernel... " how do I fix this ? |
| 00:16.00 | rgr | how do I get more than 8 colors in debians urxvt? google gives a lot of conflicting advice. |
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| 00:16.45 | abrotman | why would you install three times a year? |
| 00:17.11 | darkblue_B | a colloquelism for "seldom: |
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| 00:17.29 | zleap | i have had 8.10 installed since xmas, still working fine, if I had windows I would probably have had to install at least twice by now to keep it running at a decent speed |
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| 00:18.14 | abrotman | darkblue_B: You actually reinstall ? |
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| 00:18.56 | darkblue_B | I had an ubuntu .. I am getting a little better with linux, and liked the debian 5's I put on at work, so I thought to go to debian now |
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| 00:20.28 | aitiba | hi |
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| 00:20.36 | darkblue_B | I maintain a few large postgres databases, and do some python and web dev.. |
| 00:20.45 | aitiba | Im trying to mount a extended partition using fstab |
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| 00:20.56 | aitiba | what is the type that I have to use? |
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| 00:21.16 | nsadmin | aitiba: extended? what's its name in /dev? |
| 00:22.03 | aitiba | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:22.57 | nsadmin | that might not be mountable |
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| 00:23.39 | nsadmin | correction, definitely not mountable |
| 00:23.59 | nsadmin | logical partitions are created inside |
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| 00:24.43 | aitiba | I have 55GB there |
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| 00:25.17 | nsadmin | so you formatted it? |
| 00:25.50 | aitiba | i have to save the data there then formatted |
| 00:25.51 | p0g0 | aitiba: the 'extended' partition is a wrapper for the 'logical' partitions it contains. |
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| 00:26.09 | nsadmin | so how did you format the partition? |
| 00:26.36 | nsadmin | try this: mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt |
| 00:27.47 | aitiba | you must specify the filesystem type |
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| 00:28.12 | rgr | can someone help me with making screen support more than 8 colors please? Debian testing. |
| 00:28.54 | abrotman | which video card? |
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| 00:29.37 | nsadmin | aitiba: so, how did you format the partition? (note, it's getting increasingly likely that /dev/sdb2 is -not- mountable and therefore has been used correctly. can you pastebin the output of fdisk -l /dev/sdb |
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| 00:30.25 | aitiba | http://pastebin.com/m34e6f76b |
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| 00:30.47 | aitiba | I formated using the debian installer |
| 00:31.05 | nsadmin | aitiba: /dev/sdb5 is where your data is |
| 00:31.24 | aitiba | I have 55GB of data on sda2 |
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| 00:31.27 | abrotman | rgr: which video card? |
| 00:31.44 | nsadmin | sdA2? |
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| 00:32.00 | aitiba | sorry on sdB2 |
| 00:32.16 | nsadmin | look carefully at what you pastebinned |
| 00:33.35 | aitiba | the start of sdb2 and sdb5 are the same? |
| 00:33.42 | nsadmin | bingo :) |
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| 00:33.56 | nsadmin | therefore sdb5 is INSIDE sdb2 |
| 00:34.06 | nsadmin | sdb5 is a logical partition |
| 00:34.16 | nsadmin | which would go inside an extended partition |
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| 00:34.30 | nsadmin | extended partitions are logical-partition-containers |
| 00:34.34 | aitiba | ok |
| 00:34.42 | aitiba | I understand it |
| 00:34.44 | aitiba | thanks |
| 00:34.48 | entmoot | anyone use cifs? |
| 00:35.02 | abrotman | no one |
| 00:35.07 | nsadmin | so now try: mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt |
| 00:35.52 | aitiba | I have sd5 mount yet |
| 00:36.12 | nsadmin | so it's already mounted? |
| 00:36.18 | nsadmin | you should find your data there |
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| 00:37.23 | darkblue_B | Q. I enabled the non-free repo, and just installed nvidia-glx, apparently successfully. What else do I have to do to get OpenGL and whatever else? is there a control panel? |
| 00:37.48 | abrotman | !tell darkblue_B about nvidia |
| 00:38.12 | darkblue_B | .. going to wiki.. thx |
| 00:38.19 | nsadmin | is there a way to get the nvidia driver that plays nice with xen? |
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| 00:40.16 | nalioth | anyone familiar with the python google sitemap generator? |
| 00:40.27 | nalioth | ah flap - wrong channel |
| 00:40.38 | webmasteroy | lol |
| 00:41.02 | mesaGL | nsadmin: not to be a nit-picker or anything, but altho sdb2 & sdb5 start on the same cylinder, they are not quite at the same place. fdisk -l -u will show the start sectors as differing, by 63, usually. this is to make room for the ebr &etc |
| 00:41.36 | nsadmin | mesaGL: right, it's the reason he couldn't mount sdb2 |
| 00:41.59 | nsadmin | oh, -u must switch units |
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| 00:50.04 | gh0st3r | Ive got a vanilla install of OpenLDAP on a debian 5 box.... im trying to run this: "ldapsearch -xLLL -b cn=config -D cn=admin,cn=config -W olcDatabase=(1)hdb" its asks me to enter the admin password, i enter it, than i get an error "ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)" whats wrong? |
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| 00:51.01 | Kamping_Kaiser | gh0st3r: your idea of a valid login and the servers appear to differ |
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| 00:51.57 | darkblue_B | gh0st3r: sometimes I make the mistake of typing the pwd for a sudo user, instead of the root pwd |
| 00:52.31 | gh0st3r | darkblue_B, for this test server, they are the same :) |
| 00:52.47 | gh0st3r | Kamping_Kaiser, im very very new to OpenLDAP... any ideas what Im doing wrong? |
| 00:53.12 | Kamping_Kaiser | gh0st3r: check the ldap server logs. |
| 00:53.13 | simonrvn | gh0st3r: binddn is cn=config |
| 00:53.28 | simonrvn | gh0st3r: you also have to have a password set for it |
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| 00:55.52 | gh0st3r | might take a bit more of RTFM... before I ask anymore questions |
| 00:56.00 | rumpsy | !seen LtL |
| 00:56.00 | dpkg | ltl <n=user@173-20-134-215.client.mchsi.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 23h 15m 34s ago, saying: 'rumpsy: register a domain and lots of other stuff'. |
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| 01:01.08 | darkblue_B | ok - nvidia driver went well.. thx |
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| 01:03.19 | migueldemalaga | hola |
| 01:03.28 | rumpsy | How to configure Exim4 |
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| 01:04.26 | tonsofpcs | has anyone built "djmount" for x86? |
| 01:04.54 | abrotman | rumpsy: http://www.exim.org/docs.html |
| 01:05.01 | abrotman | !drec |
| 01:05.04 | abrotman | bleh |
| 01:05.04 | rumpsy | okay |
| 01:05.10 | abrotman | rumpsy: or dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 01:05.18 | abrotman | depends how you want to configure it |
| 01:05.22 | rumpsy | This is good |
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| 01:06.38 | rumpsy | I found exim4 package broken, nownewly installing that |
| 01:06.57 | rumpsy | !djmount |
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| 01:07.02 | migueldemalaga | when i shut down whit gnome in debian squeeze, appears gdm sometimes |
| 01:07.33 | rumpsy | debian squeeze released? |
| 01:09.32 | migueldemalaga | the actual version on squeeze ( all updated) |
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| 01:16.26 | quentusrex | Anyone know how to script a one liner that will ssh into a box and connect to screen? |
| 01:16.42 | quentusrex | I can't seem to execute the command on login that connects to screen rather than returning the output |
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| 01:18.48 | xyan | ssh -t user@host "screen -x" ? |
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| 01:19.29 | quentusrex | xyan, I'll check |
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| 01:20.48 | gh0st3r | simonrvn Kamping_Kaiser, blank vanilla install of openLDAP... http://pastebin.com/m7f036296 shows a "ldapsearch -x -b 'dc=commsitcrm,dc=local' '(objectclass=*)'" |
| 01:21.20 | gh0st3r | now when I try any ldapadd or anything it asks for Admin password, I enter it but still Invalid creds... what should I be adding to my queries to make it work? |
| 01:22.22 | webmasteroy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC-jaD1gKV4 |
| 01:22.29 | webmasteroy | subscribe to me I make videos about setting up servers usin debian |
| 01:22.34 | webmasteroy | in the future |
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| 01:25.09 | keith4_ | gh0st3r, maybe pastebin the command that you're having trouble with, instead of the one that works |
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| 01:27.52 | gh0st3r | keith4, http://pastebin.com/m2f2b49ec |
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| 01:29.09 | keith4_ | you won't get far without a bind DN |
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| 01:30.47 | gh0st3r | keith4_, is the bind DN the admin's DN or what? |
| 01:31.02 | keith4_ | yes |
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| 01:32.33 | gh0st3r | keith4_, so it should be more like "ldapadd -D 'cn=admin,dn=commsitcrm,dc=local' -w -f /tmp/test" |
| 01:32.33 | gh0st3r | ? |
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| 01:33.05 | keith4_ | W, not w |
| 01:33.40 | gh0st3r | keith4_, hmmm still getting invalid creds... any other ideas? (even with -W) |
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| 01:36.48 | keith4_ | gh0st3r, you probably also want -x and -h something |
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| 01:37.41 | adb | ask in #ldap ? |
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| 01:38.01 | keith4_ | that too |
| 01:38.02 | qiyong | i removed a binary accidently, how do i recover by apt-get? |
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| 01:38.25 | gh0st3r | keith4_, -x worked :) thanks |
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| 01:46.27 | M06w | is there some sort of thing I can get or make that I can plug into the vga slot on my server and make it autodetect as such and such sized monitor? |
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| 01:47.24 | keith4_ | try #hardware |
| 01:48.12 | enyawix | is there a distro that is just hardened debian? |
| 01:48.27 | valdyn | M06w: its called a monitor |
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| 01:49.06 | enyawix | valdyn: thanks |
| 01:49.43 | valdyn | enyawix: for? |
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| 01:49.50 | abrotman | !tell enyawix about harden |
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| 01:52.20 | enyawix | abrotman: thanks that was a big help |
| 01:52.27 | enyawix | reading now |
| 01:52.27 | rburn | hey, is there an equivalent of launchpad for debian? i want to create some packages (just with scripts to configure things) that would be available to download. |
| 01:52.41 | abrotman | rburn: you could put them in Debian officially? |
| 01:52.46 | rburn | launchpad ppa, i mean |
| 01:53.00 | rburn | abrotman: there are configurations scripts |
| 01:53.11 | abrotman | but you want other people to use them ? |
| 01:53.18 | valdyn | rburn: launchpad is just aswell for debian afaik |
| 01:53.21 | rburn | me and friends |
| 01:53.32 | abrotman | so just create the package and put it on your network/website? |
| 01:53.32 | rburn | and who ever want them |
| 01:54.07 | rburn | abrotman: i dont want to have a server running all the time here at home |
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| 01:54.29 | abrotman | rburn: so just yours on launchpad? |
| 01:54.34 | mesaGL | rburn: sourceforge or freshmeat provide free hosting for open-source things |
| 01:54.56 | Kamping_Kaiser | don't ISPs usually provide some web space? throw it there |
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| 01:55.21 | rburn | i'd like to have git to maintain them |
| 01:55.35 | Kamping_Kaiser | use github? |
| 01:55.40 | rburn | launchpad ppa does it - without git |
| 01:56.07 | rburn | hey Kamping_Kaiser |
| 01:56.16 | rburn | github is open source? |
| 01:56.35 | somiaj | rburn: http://sdf.lonestar.org/ is a public access unix system with some webspace. I think you have to spend a one time $20 membership to get some webspace though. |
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| 01:57.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | is noticing the requirements for this changing faster then light |
| 01:57.38 | Almustafa | hello. wondering what is the easiset way to do 's/\n //' on a whole file. sed couldn't do it because it work at line bondary. the file is about 1G large. |
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| 01:58.02 | mesaGL | Almustafa: maybe tr |
| 01:58.35 | mesaGL | tr -d "\n" or something |
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| 01:58.46 | Kamping_Kaiser | sed should be able to do it |
| 01:58.59 | mesaGL | sed -i ? |
| 01:59.15 | abrotman | Almustafa: sed does that .. |
| 01:59.23 | rburn | valdyn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/188564 :( |
| 01:59.48 | Almustafa | mesaGL: tr couldn't work on character sequence |
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| 02:00.11 | mesaGL | Almustafa: huh ? |
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| 02:00.38 | Almustafa | abrotman: i tried before asking. |
| 02:00.45 | abrotman | Almustafa: sed -i -e 's/\n //g' foofile |
| 02:00.52 | darkblue_B | hi all- install going well.. Debian5.. I have a 2nd internal disk, and thats mounting on startup fine.. Q. I have an external drive I want to plug in to IEEE-1394. what do I have to do to enable that? |
| 02:00.54 | abrotman | you probably don't even need the 'g' |
| 02:01.58 | darkblue_B | lspci shows the port |
| 02:02.19 | Almustafa | abrotman: I tried exactly that. you know sed works on line bondary, , explain with a case: something like 's/ \n//' would not work, you should use 's/ $//', now you got why 's/\n //' woudln't work right? |
| 02:03.13 | abrotman | Almustafa: it won't quit after the first one |
| 02:03.22 | abrotman | Almustafa: it will run that on each line in the file |
| 02:03.25 | darkblue_B | .. on the machines at work, it "just worked" |
| 02:03.35 | rburn | Kamping_Kaiser: github has gitweb for browsing code? |
| 02:03.38 | abrotman | darkblue_B: dmesg ? what about it doesn't work ? |
| 02:03.52 | darkblue_B | I plug it in, nothing happens that I can see |
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| 02:05.40 | yousoboil | Hello, I am tryint to write to a normal usb drive (non encrypted) from a encrypted hidden system truecrypt volume, it makes the USB drive mount read only. How can I make truecrypt make volumes not read only, but so i am able to backup some data? |
| 02:05.54 | mesaGL | darkblue_B: any firewire modules loaded ? lsmod | grep firewire |
| 02:05.56 | Almustafa | abrotman: did you really try your suggestion? try this on your termain and see it fail: # printf "a\n b\n" | sed -e 's/\n // |
| 02:06.29 | mesaGL | Almustafa: er excuse me. there is a space in there. should that be there ? |
| 02:06.48 | Almustafa | mesaGL: it is decicive (the space) |
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| 02:07.09 | abrotman | Amorphous: you want a space on the next line? |
| 02:07.18 | abrotman | or remove it? |
| 02:07.36 | Almustafa | abrotman: remove the line break and the space after it. |
| 02:07.53 | darkblue_B | http://pastebin.com/f46a081a5 mesaGL |
| 02:08.12 | abrotman | Almustafa: sorry, i thought the space was unintentional |
| 02:08.30 | mesaGL | hehe. so did i |
| 02:09.01 | abrotman | Almustafa: could you do it with perl instead? |
| 02:09.59 | mesaGL | darkblue_B: right. looks ok to me. they renamed the modules for 2.6.30 hence my mistake. nothing in dmesg ? |
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| 02:10.37 | Almustafa | abrotman: yes, I could. in fact, I did it in 3-line awk script. i was wondering if it has to be like so, because this is a basic feature for all text editor (jedit/ultraedit/vim) so it should be so difficult that one has to think of the logic and write a 3-line awk. |
| 02:10.50 | darkblue_B | http://pastebin.com/fb275548 |
| 02:11.06 | abrotman | Almustafa: you mean that sed can't do it? (yes, i've done what you'e asking in vim also) |
| 02:11.25 | kury- | I just updated world and had to switch to a new machine profile and now syslog-ng (and inturn ssh won't start). It claims there is a bad syslog-ng configuration but I noticed /dev/log doesn't exist.. should it or does the syslog daemon create it? |
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| 02:11.56 | yousoboil | fuuuuuuuuuuu |
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| 02:12.16 | mesaGL | darkblue_B: looks like it's in there with irq19. try cat /proc/interrupts and see if there are any on 19 |
| 02:12.24 | darkblue_B | ok |
| 02:12.28 | rumpsy | !hello |
| 02:12.29 | dpkg | Hi, rumpsy! |
| 02:12.51 | darkblue_B | it says ohci1394 on 19 |
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| 02:13.24 | mesaGL | darkblue_B: any actual interrupts occured ? second column |
| 02:13.25 | darkblue_B | (I have no idea how to set this up, I am just following your cues mesaGL) |
| 02:13.33 | darkblue_B | 559 |
| 02:14.10 | darkblue_B | oh the other number is 266966 |
| 02:14.18 | darkblue_B | in case you arent counting the int# |
| 02:14.44 | Meths | printf "a\n b\n" | sed -e "/^.*$/N;s/\n //" |
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| 02:14.57 | mesaGL | darkblue_B: ok. now i'm stuck too. it should have done a udev thing and made the nodes in /dev |
| 02:14.58 | darkblue_B | same drive, worked fine on the other machines.. big server things |
| 02:15.07 | darkblue_B | drat |
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| 02:15.15 | darkblue_B | ok, pluggin in as USB2 |
| 02:15.25 | darkblue_B | I was really hoping for the 1394 |
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| 02:16.13 | rabidweezle | firewire? |
| 02:16.27 | mesaGL | darkblue_B: see if you can look at the stuff on the server for clues. maybe a udev rule is missing or something |
| 02:18.02 | darkblue_B | *sigh* USB2 worked |
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| 02:18.06 | Tramp | Almustafa: due to the line-oriented way sed works, working on (patterns including) newlines is not trivial. You could do: sed ':a;N;s/\n //;ta;' - but that would read the whole file into memory |
| 02:18.18 | darkblue_B | I dont know where to look on the server for udev ruls |
| 02:18.31 | darkblue_B | you mean, on my server, the one that works? |
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| 02:18.35 | dkingston | question |
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| 02:18.43 | nsadmin | redirect |
| 02:18.53 | dkingston | how do I get xorg to start on boot along with flubox? |
| 02:18.53 | dkingston | . |
| 02:18.59 | mesaGL | darkblue_B: /etc/udev/rules.d on debian dunno about other systems |
| 02:19.21 | dkingston | how do I get fluxbox to start on boot? |
| 02:19.21 | nsadmin | that would involve an automatic login to some account |
| 02:19.24 | dkingston | lets put it that way |
| 02:19.27 | nsadmin | that would involve an automatic login to some account |
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| 02:19.35 | abrotman | dkingston: use something gdm or xdm or one of those |
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| 02:19.45 | abrotman | !tell dkingston about dm |
| 02:19.47 | rabidweezle | dkingston, do you use gdm? |
| 02:19.49 | abrotman | !tell dkingston about .xsession |
| 02:19.51 | dkingston | no |
| 02:19.55 | dkingston | I just compiled fluxbox by source |
| 02:20.00 | rabidweezle | kdm? |
| 02:20.06 | dkingston | needed xorg and devel libraries |
| 02:20.10 | dkingston | i don't know where to go from here |
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| 02:20.14 | dkingston | never done this before :p |
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| 02:20.52 | dkingston | hold on |
| 02:21.12 | rabidweezle | how I usally do it is use gdm and tell it to use fluxbox as my "session" when it asks me for my password. It then loads x and fluxbox (or whatever session manager I picked) |
| 02:21.27 | nsadmin | ok, all 715 of you, hold on! |
| 02:21.38 | abrotman | why would he compile fluxbox then>/ |
| 02:21.40 | abrotman | ? |
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| 02:22.07 | dkingston | damnit |
| 02:22.10 | dkingston | I couldn't get into my PM's |
| 02:22.16 | dkingston | god I sound like such a noob right now. |
| 02:22.20 | Almustafa | abrotman: sed cannot do it (notice, the file is 1gb in size) |
| 02:22.26 | dkingston | kdm |
| 02:22.29 | dkingston | or something like that, right? |
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| 02:22.32 | abrotman | Almustafa: yes .. i agree .. |
| 02:22.45 | abrotman | dkingston: why did you compile fluxbox ? |
| 02:22.52 | nsadmin | well if you're not running kde or gnome, you probably want xdm |
| 02:22.54 | abrotman | dkingston: aptitude install xorg gdm |
| 02:22.59 | dkingston | so I could enable extra parameters |
| 02:23.06 | dkingston | xdm or gdm |
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| 02:23.35 | dkingston | i'll poke xdm. |
| 02:23.36 | dkingston | minute |
| 02:24.01 | schlurchz | staltet Wäsche : Forum goFeminin - [ Translate this page ] |
| 02:24.07 | schlurchz | Waschmaschine verunstaltstaltet Wäsche : Forum goFeminin - [ Translate this page ] |
| 02:24.43 | schlurchz | :-) sry mispaste, I was sneezing :-) |
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| 02:26.16 | Meths | Almustafa: printf "a\n b\n" | sed -e "/^.*$/N;s/\n //" <- so that won't work because of the size? |
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| 02:27.32 | mesaGL | Meths: i dunno what that means but it kinda worked for me |
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| 02:28.29 | abrotman | gives Meths The Sick Sed of the Day award ... |
| 02:29.37 | rabidweezle | what is sed? |
| 02:29.43 | markybob | jesus |
| 02:29.45 | schlurchz | *g* |
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| 02:30.11 | schlurchz | nah, not jesus :-) |
| 02:30.26 | markybob | beelzebub |
| 02:30.28 | rabidweezle | sed == jesus? |
| 02:30.29 | rabidweezle | well at least I finally found jesus |
| 02:30.35 | schlurchz | hehe |
| 02:30.37 | mesaGL | rabidweezle: stream editor. old but useful for admin |
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| 02:30.53 | schlurchz | see, people should look him up in #debian |
| 02:30.59 | Almustafa | Meths: I should not load all data to the memory because I expect the data to grow, but not expecting memory availalbe to grow (I am writing a cron job) |
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| 02:34.06 | Meths | Almustafa: How does your awk version avoid loading all the data? |
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| 02:36.47 | rabidweezle | of all the 10+ years I've been using linux religiously I've yet to write a cron job, course I haven't ever tinkered into the server admin side other than apache/ftp/game servers |
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| 02:37.29 | markybob | rabidweezle, 10 years and you dont know what sed is? no, i dont think so. nice try |
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| 02:38.10 | rabidweezle | weird ehh, but I've never used it |
| 02:38.10 | rabidweezle | :/ |
| 02:38.21 | rabidweezle | I am more of what you would call an end/desktop user |
| 02:39.11 | markybob | i dont doubt you've never used it...but 10 without even knowing what it is, even if you havent used it...no. |
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| 02:40.07 | rabidweezle | Started when I was 15, I'm 27 now, you can do the math |
| 02:40.22 | markybob | i can also smell bullshit |
| 02:40.37 | rabidweezle | yawns |
| 02:40.41 | _Techie_ | rabidweezle, let me guess you started with game servers? |
| 02:41.08 | rabidweezle | I started with redhat 6 on a dialup 28.8 modem? |
| 02:41.14 | abrotman | tries to remember how many 'game servers' there were 12 years ago |
| 02:41.19 | rabidweezle | with a cd I bought from compusa |
| 02:41.32 | abrotman | redhat 6 wasn't 12 years ago though |
| 02:41.37 | markybob | yada yada yada |
| 02:41.39 | rabidweezle | and about 200 dollars worth of linux books |
| 02:41.48 | abrotman | books that never mentioned sed? |
| 02:41.59 | markybob | rabidweezle, stop. you're digging in deeper |
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| 02:42.08 | mesaGL | but hat 4 or 5 was |
| 02:42.11 | icebrain | agrees. Sed is canon |
| 02:42.21 | abrotman | mesaGL: that's not what he said though |
| 02:42.24 | mesaGL | sure |
| 02:42.26 | rabidweezle | markybob, please man, I have no reason to lie to you |
| 02:43.12 | markybob | you'd think. criminals have no reason to be criminals. people are just stupid...and you're clearly bullshitting |
| 02:43.50 | rabidweezle | I don't have to prove myself to you, but I can say with all assurance, that I am not telling a lie |
| 02:44.15 | markybob | alright, john edwards |
| 02:44.20 | mesaGL | economical with the verité perhaps |
| 02:44.27 | abrotman | anyways ... |
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| 02:44.42 | rabidweezle | rolls eyes |
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| 02:47.30 | darkblue_B | it looks like 1000baseT is not enabled ... woe is me |
| 02:47.38 | darkblue_B | everything here is 1000baseT |
| 02:47.44 | abrotman | do you have Gb internet ? |
| 02:47.44 | darkblue_B | this is very important |
| 02:47.50 | darkblue_B | yes, same machine |
| 02:47.53 | darkblue_B | was working |
| 02:47.56 | darkblue_B | same setup |
| 02:47.58 | abrotman | ethtool, mii-tool |
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| 02:49.59 | darkblue_B | ethtool -s speed 1000 ? |
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| 02:50.20 | rabidweezle | markybob, I think everyone who has used any operating system has found a little extra functionality a while later they didn't know about. For instance, until a friend told me at work, I didn't know about hitting control+return after typing in google on the browser address bar would throw in the http://www.*.com it's kinda like that with sed. Some people read the full manual, some people read what they need to get started and learn the rest themsel |
| 02:50.20 | rabidweezle | ves :/ |
| 02:50.21 | Kamping_Kaiser | who ctcp'd? |
| 02:50.29 | Kamping_Kaiser | eyes off darkblue_B |
| 02:50.51 | darkblue_B | if I knew what ctcp was I could say if I did it |
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| 02:51.11 | rabidweezle | it's an irc command |
| 02:51.14 | markybob | rabidweezle, ctrl+enter isnt a google feature. it's a browser feature |
| 02:51.28 | rabidweezle | I didn't say it was a google feature |
| 02:51.42 | darkblue_B | whats a good way to find out the name of my ethernet card device? |
| 02:51.48 | rabidweezle | I was using google as an example |
| 02:51.48 | darkblue_B | I can see it in lspci |
| 02:51.50 | rabidweezle | works with any .com |
| 02:51.51 | markybob | yes you did. "typing in google" |
| 02:52.00 | markybob | you can do it in firefox without being in google |
| 02:52.08 | rabidweezle | it was an example not a literal |
| 02:52.20 | markybob | then learn how to speak |
| 02:52.45 | rabidweezle | markybob, what's wrong with you today? being on the hostile for no particular reason? |
| 02:52.47 | Meths | markybob: taken out of context "typing in google on the browser address bar" is what he said |
| 02:52.53 | rabidweezle | did I personally do something to you? |
| 02:52.54 | darkblue_B | you'd make mistakes too, after a couple of scotches |
| 02:53.14 | markybob | rabidweezle, i just dont like people who talk bullshit. it's not a "today" thing |
| 02:53.30 | darkblue_B | throws cold water on the flames |
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| 02:54.03 | darkblue_B | I *sure* would like to try setting the settings of my ethernet card to 1000baseT |
| 02:54.06 | rabidweezle | Even if I'm not talking bullshit |
| 02:54.11 | darkblue_B | ethtool might do it |
| 02:54.13 | mesaGL | darkblue_B: ethtool |
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| 02:54.30 | darkblue_B | ..need to find out the name of my ethernet card device, I think |
| 02:54.35 | abrotman | rabidweezle: move along .. end of discussion |
| 02:54.37 | rabidweezle | ever think that maybe I never used sed because I literally never used it, never had the need to? |
| 02:54.45 | mesaGL | darkblue_B: ifconfig -a |
| 02:54.58 | darkblue_B | aha |
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| 02:55.34 | darkblue_B | eth0 might be it then |
| 02:55.47 | darkblue_B | ethtool -s speed 1000 eth0 perhaps? |
| 02:56.05 | rabidweezle | sorry abrotman I shouldn't be feeding the troll anyway |
| 02:56.18 | darkblue_B | nope |
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| 02:57.07 | mesaGL | darkblue_B: ethtool -s eth0 speed N |
| 02:57.36 | mesaGL | darkblue_B: ethtool eth0, to see what is supported |
| 02:57.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | is there something other then reprepro which can be used to move debs into a valid pool/ hirachy? |
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| 02:58.14 | darkblue_B | thx mesaGL I just found the supported part |
| 02:58.28 | darkblue_B | it is indeed defaulting to 100.. changing now |
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| 02:59.21 | abrotman | Kamping_Kaiser: you read the 'creating a repository' docs ? |
| 02:59.53 | darkblue_B | funny, the big servers at work defaulted to 1000 also |
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| 03:00.10 | darkblue_B | guess this home equipment comes at a cost |
| 03:00.52 | abrotman | Kamping_Kaiser: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.en.html .. but i'm not sure that describes the 'pool' bit |
| 03:00.57 | darkblue_B | hmm rebooted, didnt change |
| 03:01.19 | darkblue_B | yep, confirmed |
| 03:01.21 | Kamping_Kaiser | abrotman: no, embarassingly i think that escaped my mind. I'll have a look, thanks for the link |
| 03:01.23 | darkblue_B | ugh |
| 03:01.25 | mesaGL | darkblue_B: it's not persistent |
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| 03:01.30 | darkblue_B | huh? |
| 03:01.42 | darkblue_B | I have to run some startup thing? |
| 03:01.44 | mesaGL | darkblue_B: stick it in /etc/rc.local or somewhere |
| 03:01.52 | darkblue_B | looking |
| 03:02.03 | abrotman | or use post-up in your interfaces file |
| 03:02.11 | mesaGL | good call |
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| 03:02.32 | darkblue_B | post-up ? |
| 03:03.12 | mesaGL | /etc/network/interfaces |
| 03:03.33 | darkblue_B | y - I guessed that part |
| 03:03.38 | darkblue_B | I am looking at it now |
| 03:03.42 | darkblue_B | what is post-up? |
| 03:03.59 | mesaGL | there are hooks for pre/post up/down. coomands that are run at those times |
| 03:04.12 | darkblue_B | allow-hotplug eth0 \n iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 03:04.17 | darkblue_B | is what it says now |
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| 03:04.45 | darkblue_B | so.. I would need a lot of hints to make this post-up thing go |
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| 03:05.12 | mesaGL | darkblue_B: so add on a new line "post-up ethtool ....." immediately after the one you gave for eth0 |
| 03:05.22 | darkblue_B | ah ok, trying |
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| 03:05.51 | P3t3 | Hey guys how is the software that allows you to follow the program code called |
| 03:06.13 | mesaGL | darkblue_B: man 5 interfaces |
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| 03:07.28 | darkblue_B | without looking, I am guessing there is a *lot* of info on man 5 interfaces.. 99% of which is not what I am looking to do |
| 03:07.33 | mesaGL | P3t3: machine code and/or source, or just source ? |
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| 03:07.37 | darkblue_B | at any rate, I just made that change |
| 03:07.39 | darkblue_B | rebooting |
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| 03:08.06 | abrotman | P3t3: gdb? strace? ltrace? |
| 03:08.21 | mesaGL | P3t3: to step run, breakpoint etc use gdb. to browse code, use ctags or cscope or id-utils or something |
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| 03:09.06 | schlurchz | P3t3: you did not really say what you want to do |
| 03:09.10 | darkblue_B | hmm no joy |
| 03:09.47 | mesaGL | darkblue_B: so you added the post-up line with the correct syntax ? |
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| 03:10.25 | darkblue_B | sec |
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| 03:11.22 | mesaGL | darkblue_B: you can do ifup/ifdown eth0. or /etc/init.d/networking restart, instead of rebooting each time |
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| 03:11.52 | darkblue_B | mesaGL: here is what I have done.. http://pastebin.com/f5f113e3c |
| 03:12.19 | darkblue_B | sudo ethtool -s eth0 speed 1000 apparently isnt the right command |
| 03:12.44 | mesaGL | er not sudo |
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| 03:13.13 | darkblue_B | I didnt say sudo in the interfaces file |
| 03:13.30 | veritos | Why is KDE 4's library set in kdelibs5 rather than kdelibs4? |
| 03:13.42 | darkblue_B | ethtool command not found, without sudo |
| 03:13.52 | darkblue_B | sorry, I am not a whiz at Linux stuff |
| 03:14.09 | darkblue_B | so interfaces probably doesnt find it then |
| 03:14.11 | darkblue_B | on startup |
| 03:14.35 | mesaGL | darkblue_B: sorry. i was jumping ahead. try giving the full path to ethtool |
| 03:14.40 | darkblue_B | aha |
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| 03:15.14 | darkblue_B | operation not permittted |
| 03:15.19 | darkblue_B | without sudo |
| 03:15.32 | mesaGL | darkblue_B: i meant in the interfaces file |
| 03:15.32 | darkblue_B | maybe the interfaces file runs at root level |
| 03:15.37 | darkblue_B | ok |
| 03:15.38 | mesaGL | yes it does |
| 03:15.41 | darkblue_B | trying |
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| 03:16.12 | mesaGL | do ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0, after making the change |
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| 03:16.44 | darkblue_B | I did /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 03:17.01 | darkblue_B | I think about the same thing, easier for a non-net guy like me |
| 03:17.32 | mesaGL | so any luck ? |
| 03:18.11 | darkblue_B | ooh - takes a while |
| 03:18.21 | darkblue_B | DHCPRELEASE is not coming back |
| 03:18.25 | darkblue_B | maybe the restart |
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| 03:19.34 | maxagaz | hi |
| 03:20.00 | maxagaz | when i run lsusb, it shows my touchscreen, but not when i run "cat /proc/bus/input/devices", why ? |
| 03:20.00 | darkblue_B | oh - there is that ohci1394 .. timeout on physical reg [000] |
| 03:20.48 | darkblue_B | nope nope |
| 03:20.52 | darkblue_B | 100mb/s |
| 03:21.17 | darkblue_B | wow this is so much less successful than on the TYAC MB machines |
| 03:21.38 | darkblue_B | this is an Acer.. tower.. AM64. Firewire and now 1000baseT are not showing up |
| 03:22.08 | darkblue_B | I mean, If I dont fix this 1000baseT, I will have to throw out this OS |
| 03:22.22 | darkblue_B | .. not meaning to be grim or anything, but thats fundemental |
| 03:23.09 | Cain | When trying to add a WinShare to fstab (//192.168.1.200/CentraL /media/Cronos/CentraL cifs credentials=/etc/sambapasswords 0 0) dmesg |tail show this : |
| 03:23.13 | darkblue_B | same machine.. with that U** OS, 1000baseT just worked |
| 03:23.15 | Cain | [2116198.302697] CIFS VFS: No username specified |
| 03:23.15 | Cain | [2116198.302735] CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -22 |
| 03:23.18 | Cain | any idea? |
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| 03:26.51 | markybob | for fucks sake...please...will rabidweezle stop /msging me |
| 03:27.21 | rabidweezle | he was pissed I proved my point |
| 03:27.32 | rabidweezle | and now he's embarrassed :/ |
| 03:27.36 | rabidweezle | drops it |
| 03:27.39 | markybob | you never even had a point to prove |
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| 03:28.15 | dkr | lrn2/ignore |
| 03:28.47 | darkblue_B | ooh my bad! |
| 03:28.56 | darkblue_B | switched hubs in the fuss |
| 03:29.02 | darkblue_B | now I have 1000baseT |
| 03:29.06 | darkblue_B | drama half over |
| 03:29.28 | rabidweezle | good deal darkblue_B :) |
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| 03:29.58 | darkblue_B | thx - 80gb transfer started |
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| 03:30.16 | rabidweezle | shouldn't take long |
| 03:30.24 | darkblue_B | now to see if it holds on the reboot |
| 03:30.40 | darkblue_B | hmm 1000baseT gives me around 36Mb/sec |
| 03:30.43 | darkblue_B | 30 mintes |
| 03:31.55 | rabidweezle | beats the speed of "the cloud" |
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| 03:31.55 | tonybaba | which ownership/permissions should ~/.gnupg and it's content have. I think I have messed it up |
| 03:32.23 | Sergio` | Anyone knows where can I get a good encrypted proxy for iceweasel? |
| 03:32.38 | markybob | tonybaba, drwx------ |
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| 03:32.55 | darkblue_B | encrypted proxy.. sounds heavy |
| 03:32.59 | tonybaba | markybob, tnx |
| 03:33.19 | Sergio` | darkblue_B: Just as long as it works all the time, is reasonably fast and that my ISP can't know my stuff, is okay with me. |
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| 03:34.16 | darkblue_B | well on a more mundane note, 1000baseT post-up worked on reboot with the full path |
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| 03:34.47 | darkblue_B | abrotman: mesaGL thx very much |
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| 03:35.07 | mesaGL | darkblue_B: a pleasure |
| 03:35.22 | Sergio` | I have the right to get information from wikipedia or whatever without being tracked. |
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| 03:35.36 | darkblue_B | true |
| 03:36.53 | Devastator | abrotman did you saw an error by any chance with debian-installer in SET UP USERS AND PASSWORDS? |
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| 03:38.32 | onox | wth is emerald unavailable in debian? |
| 03:38.37 | abrotman | Devastator: need more info |
| 03:39.08 | abrotman | onox: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=522935 |
| 03:39.19 | abrotman | onox: and no, it doesn't say why |
| 03:39.45 | Devastator | abrotman when i put password, username etc, it says "installation step failed", is there a way to see the error? |
| 03:39.55 | abrotman | alt-f4 ? |
| 03:40.07 | Devastator | i will try |
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| 03:51.12 | j_14 | I just installed e16 in lenny, the default font is too big, how can I change that? |
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| 03:53.21 | cheeseboy | mktorrent is segfaulting |
| 03:53.28 | cheeseboy | hyow to fix it? |
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| 03:54.17 | abrotman | did you check the BTS? tried stracing or gdb? mved your config out of the way? checked your hardware? |
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| 04:01.35 | cheeseboy | abrotman, english? |
| 04:01.55 | hurd | why are you neglecting me for the other kernel! :( |
| 04:02.14 | abrotman | for which part ? |
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| 04:02.25 | abrotman | hurd: Do you have a Debian related question? |
| 04:02.39 | cheeseboy | abrotman, all of it? |
| 04:02.52 | abrotman | cheeseboy: /msg dpkg bts |
| 04:02.59 | abrotman | cheeseboy: strace <program> |
| 04:03.15 | abrotman | cheeseboy: use 'mv' to move the config file/directory aside |
| 04:03.25 | abrotman | cheeseboy: use something like memtest to check your hardware |
| 04:03.34 | cheeseboy | hardwares fine |
| 04:03.58 | abrotman | never assume that .. it's often enough that segfault indicates a hardware issue |
| 04:04.04 | soreau | Does anyone where happen to know what happened to someone that goes by the nick of amphi? No, it's not a debian related question but if anyone knows I am trying to find out what happened to him. Has been month since he's been on freenode afaik |
| 04:04.16 | soreau | months* |
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| 04:04.28 | hurd | i dont know amphi |
| 04:05.01 | abrotman | soreau: seven weeks |
| 04:05.12 | soreau | yea |
| 04:05.21 | soreau | so says freenode |
| 04:05.37 | abrotman | and OFTC concurs |
| 04:05.52 | soreau | hmm |
| 04:06.16 | soreau | Well it seems like months :) |
| 04:06.30 | abrotman | that is almost two months |
| 04:06.43 | soreau | I just hope he didn't go the way of Shame.. :| |
| 04:06.51 | abrotman | soreau: time to scour google and see if you can find an email address |
| 04:07.15 | soreau | abrotman: He is so deliberately secretive, I doubt it would be worth it |
| 04:07.34 | abrotman | soreau: he's from england if that helps |
| 04:07.50 | soreau | I know, 'yurp' as he coined it |
| 04:07.53 | hurd | sometimes... i wouldnt trust that resolve, he uses a proxy |
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| 04:08.14 | abrotman | hurd: except that i know he actualyl lived there |
| 04:08.34 | hurd | abrotman: according to him... he has no reason to lie, its just internet 101 |
| 04:08.48 | abrotman | okay then .. |
| 04:09.17 | dkr | no one knows you're a dog |
| 04:09.25 | hurd | exactly. |
| 04:09.38 | hurd | everyone is trying to hide but who is the culprit? maybe? |
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| 05:46.32 | Misantropo | when trying to install libgtk2.0-dev it tells me: libgtk2.0-dev: Depends: libpango1.0-dev (>= 1.20) but it is not going to be installed. |
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| 05:48.04 | simonrvn | so....install it |
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| 05:50.15 | Misantropo | simonrvn: thanks |
| 05:50.26 | Misantropo | simonrvn: now i am having libexpat1-dev: Depends: libexpat1 (= 2.0.1-4) but 2.0.1-4+lenny1 is to be installed |
| 05:50.50 | Misantropo | i am guessing something in my sources.list is wrong |
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| 05:51.08 | Dassu | O_o yeah. |
| 05:51.57 | Misantropo | here is my sources.list http://pastebin.com/f139a6d18 |
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| 05:53.30 | Misantropo | pastebin doesn't let me paste my apt-get update result |
| 05:53.37 | Misantropo | it says it is spam |
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| 05:55.08 | jmarsden | Misantropo: Try a different server, perhaps http://paste.debian.net |
| 05:55.55 | Misantropo | jmarsden: thanks |
| 05:56.05 | Misantropo | here is my apt-get update result: http://paste.debian.net/50469/ |
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| 06:00.22 | jmarsden | Misantropo: Yes, lines 18,19,21 and 22 of that paste show the issue. You are not getting to volatile.debian.org |
| 06:00.42 | Misantropo | jmarsden: how do i fix it? |
| 06:00.48 | simonrvn | Misantropo: i'd recommend using aptitude, firstly. the dep handling is a lot better. |
| 06:01.03 | Misantropo | simonrvn: i'll try that, thanks |
| 06:01.06 | simonrvn | what? he is, it's just an http 304 code |
| 06:01.20 | jmarsden | Misantropo: Either wait until you have better connectivity, or perhaps try using different servers by editing /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 06:01.45 | jmarsden | 304? |
| 06:01.54 | simonrvn | not modified |
| 06:02.08 | jmarsden | It shows 404 in the pastebin I saw... not found... |
| 06:02.23 | Misantropo | apparently aptitude is working |
| 06:02.25 | simonrvn | oh sorry, misread |
| 06:02.47 | simonrvn | that's because there's no volatile for squeeze... |
| 06:02.59 | Misantropo | i see |
| 06:03.03 | simonrvn | (no need for it, hence it doesn't exist) |
| 06:03.05 | jmarsden | Then the real fix is to remove the lines trying to use it from sources.list |
| 06:03.10 | Misantropo | i have just removed volatile from sources.list |
| 06:04.21 | simonrvn | i bet Misantropo is (trying to) move to squeeze, after having lenny on it, and of course apt-get doesn't do that too well, esp. if you just use upgrade, and don't do any dist-upgrade. |
| 06:05.02 | Misantropo | simonrvn: i did, and i finally found out that aptitude full-upgrade was what i needed |
| 06:05.19 | simonrvn | yes |
| 06:06.01 | Misantropo | thanks for the help, guys |
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| 06:06.36 | simonrvn | np |
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| 06:34.51 | Sergio` | Could I get a debian mailbox? |
| 06:35.21 | dondelelcaro | Sergio`: if you become a DD, sure. |
| 06:35.43 | Sergio` | Not for DU? Debian Users? |
| 06:35.47 | dondelelcaro | nope |
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| 06:36.50 | Sergio` | Can I get a cloak here? |
| 06:37.01 | dondelelcaro | Sergio`: ask in #freenode |
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| 06:42.59 | Sergio` | dondelelcaro: I wouldn't mind studying to be a Debian developer but how do they make money? |
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| 06:46.53 | Sergio` | strangebotwin: you're lammering? |
| 06:48.04 | Sergio` | Just a stupid bot. |
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| 06:48.53 | dondelelcaro | Sergio`: uh... DDs are all volunteers. They make money the same way anyone else does |
| 06:51.10 | Kamping_Kaiser | electronically robbing banks of course:) |
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| 06:52.59 | Sergio` | I'd sell some antispyware for Windows that detects malware where it does not exist and charge for updates. :) |
| 06:55.16 | Sergio` | Just to keep your OS clean and shiny. |
| 06:55.54 | Sergio` | Your/their depending on the perspective. |
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| 06:59.56 | Sergio` | With a 5 stars medal logo awarded by filesland.com :D |
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| 07:00.47 | acidtripper | sorry for offtopic, but someone there know which is the best hack of OSX for x86_64? |
| 07:02.04 | tonybaba | Is it possible to rebuild a working RAID0 on an other motherboard with different chipset (NVIDIA to Intel) using dmraid, if the RAID does not get recognised at boot (by the BIOS)? |
| 07:03.23 | Devastator | i think not |
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| 07:04.35 | qiyong | why doing so? transform="s,x,x," sed ${transform}` |
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| 07:18.58 | CcSsNET | anyone know who took over the whowatch code? |
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| 07:19.11 | CcSsNET | for debians installed version? |
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| 07:23.20 | acidtripper | CcSsNET, weren't you using arch? |
| 07:25.05 | CcSsNET | never |
| 07:25.10 | CcSsNET | i toyed with it once |
| 07:25.19 | CcSsNET | im highly fond of sourcemage |
| 07:25.28 | CcSsNET | but i still have a thing for debian |
| 07:25.39 | CcSsNET | even if it is going slightly downhill |
| 07:25.49 | CcSsNET | i give it a new release and i think itll even out |
| 07:26.00 | CcSsNET | i mostly find the grub legacy thing messy |
| 07:26.54 | CcSsNET | im* |
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| 07:27.01 | CcSsNET | bawh |
| 07:27.03 | CcSsNET | tired |
| 07:27.12 | CcSsNET | ignore that |
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| 07:29.05 | acidtripper | grub legacy is grub 1? |
| 07:29.14 | acidtripper | i thing im using it |
| 07:29.16 | CcSsNET | yea |
| 07:29.18 | acidtripper | think* |
| 07:29.38 | CcSsNET | well currently debian testing does a chainload to grub2 |
| 07:29.43 | CcSsNET | its messy looking |
| 07:29.46 | CcSsNET | although works |
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| 07:30.06 | acidtripper | yes i think im using 0.97 |
| 07:30.19 | acidtripper | what does grub2 improve? |
| 07:30.45 | acidtripper | and on arch(my distro is grub2 available but... |
| 07:31.17 | CcSsNET | i havent tried grub2 yet aside from this chainload |
| 07:31.24 | CcSsNET | so ill install manually and see soon |
| 07:31.40 | acidtripper | chaiload from grub1 to 2? |
| 07:32.15 | acidtripper | that's what you mean? |
| 07:32.15 | CcSsNET | yea |
| 07:32.15 | acidtripper | how you did that? |
| 07:32.15 | CcSsNET | same way windows is booted from grub |
| 07:32.16 | CcSsNET | its the debian way |
| 07:32.16 | CcSsNET | simply default procedure when upgrading to testing |
| 07:32.16 | acidtripper | becouse i tried it with lilo but couldn't |
| 07:32.31 | CcSsNET | modify /etc/apt/sources.list and change all words lenny to testing |
| 07:32.33 | CcSsNET | and ull see |
| 07:32.48 | tensorpudding | I'm using grub2 now, without a chainload |
| 07:32.51 | CcSsNET | when u aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade |
| 07:32.54 | acidtripper | how is made? can you post your menu.lst? |
| 07:33.04 | acidtripper | acidtripper.pastebin.com |
| 07:33.14 | CcSsNET | ehh im typing from sourcemage debians in a vm |
| 07:33.17 | CcSsNET | give me a sec |
| 07:33.27 | acidtripper | ok |
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| 07:33.44 | acidtripper | im coding a dvd with dvd::rip 17 minutes remaining |
| 07:33.48 | acidtripper | i wanna go bed |
| 07:35.18 | CcSsNET | menu.list chainloading grub2: |
| 07:35.28 | CcSsNET | root (hd0,0) |
| 07:35.52 | CcSsNET | kernel /boot/grub/core.img |
| 07:35.57 | CcSsNET | kinda generic hehe |
| 07:36.16 | CcSsNET | thats default to debian not somethign i did |
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| 07:37.20 | CcSsNET | core.img is 28k in size |
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| 07:37.36 | format_c | morning |
| 07:38.35 | acidtripper | what is core.img? |
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| 07:39.06 | CcSsNET | seems to be a file containing only grub2 mbr |
| 07:39.16 | CcSsNET | judging size |
| 07:39.29 | acidtripper | mm |
| 07:39.45 | acidtripper | and what are the changed between legacy and 2? |
| 07:39.59 | acidtripper | any advantage for changing |
| 07:40.05 | CcSsNET | not sure yet |
| 07:40.08 | tensorpudding | grub2 is a rewrite |
| 07:40.17 | tensorpudding | they changed the way a lot of things are done under the hood |
| 07:40.28 | acidtripper | for example? |
| 07:40.40 | tensorpudding | well, the configuration files are in a different place |
| 07:40.43 | tensorpudding | it's more modular |
| 07:40.52 | tensorpudding | no more menu.lst |
| 07:41.03 | acidtripper | i really don't care about bootloaders.. lilo didn't make any problem and grub1 didn't make any problem for me |
| 07:41.21 | tensorpudding | the /boot/grub/ menu is full of .mod files |
| 07:41.27 | acidtripper | how are different OS's configured now? |
| 07:41.35 | acidtripper | managed* |
| 07:41.42 | CcSsNET | what replaces menu.list? |
| 07:42.07 | jelly-home | acidtripper: autodetection via os-prober package, which generates extra menu entries |
| 07:42.11 | tensorpudding | /boot/grub/grub.cfg does |
| 07:42.17 | tensorpudding | it has the same syntax as far as i can tell |
| 07:42.38 | CcSsNET | hmm not to bad i guess |
| 07:42.40 | tensorpudding | Oh, it does a grub.d thing |
| 07:42.50 | acidtripper | daemon |
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| 07:43.04 | CcSsNET | ahh i was wondered what that os-prober packages purpose was |
| 07:43.11 | CcSsNET | i coulndt help but notice it was new |
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| 07:43.12 | tensorpudding | it has different sections for windows, linux, hurd, splashthemes, etc. |
| 07:43.14 | CcSsNET | ;) |
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| 07:43.42 | acidtripper | different modules for handing that you mean? |
| 07:43.44 | CcSsNET | anyone know who maintains whowatch in debian? |
| 07:43.51 | CcSsNET | this is rather important for security |
| 07:43.56 | CcSsNET | very important |
| 07:44.07 | tensorpudding | it has some okay splash images |
| 07:44.22 | acidtripper | CcSsNET, are you a using debian for any kinda server? |
| 07:44.40 | tensorpudding | when you install it, it defaults to chainloading through grub, until you make it switch to grub2 after you can make sure your grub2 configuration is working |
| 07:44.42 | CcSsNET | eh no im just saying everyone who uses whowatch might want to know this |
| 07:45.04 | tensorpudding | there is an option to remove grub-legacy, which is what grub1 will be called |
| 07:45.19 | tensorpudding | after grub becomes a link to grub2 |
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| 07:46.06 | bot444 | ass |
| 07:46.12 | CcSsNET | http://wizard.ae.krakow.pl/~mike/ |
| 07:46.19 | CcSsNET | ok so this is the author of whowatch |
| 07:46.23 | bot444 | CcSsNET is a ass |
| 07:46.29 | bot444 | ass ass ass |
| 07:46.36 | bot444 | CcSsNET ass |
| 07:46.36 | CcSsNET | i have time and again attempted to compile from source. no go many difrent systems |
| 07:46.46 | CcSsNET | someone kick the bot plz |
| 07:46.46 | bot444 | CcSsNET have no and difrent difrent difrent systems compile source. no difrent attempted many no |
| 07:46.50 | bot444 | someone kick bot plz plz kick CcSsNET CcSsNET |
| 07:46.55 | bot444 | the someone someone kick kick bot plz bot : (2:08) CcSsNET someone someone (2:08) CcSsNET CcSsNET kick bot |
| 07:47.01 | bot444 | someone someone CcSsNET : CcSsNET kick CcSsNET (2:08) someone the plz kick bot bot someone CcSsNET (2:08) someone |
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| 07:47.06 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@adsl-75-25-47-135.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net] by dondelelcaro |
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| 07:47.10 | CcSsNET | thx |
| 07:47.10 | Manoj | CcSsNET: well, we also have a dewbian dveloper between us and the authors |
| 07:47.20 | tensorpudding | dewbian? |
| 07:47.34 | CcSsNET | heres the problem |
| 07:47.42 | CcSsNET | he has only released up to version 1.4 |
| 07:47.50 | CcSsNET | therefor the version in debian is a fraud |
| 07:47.53 | CcSsNET | it claims 1.6 |
| 07:47.55 | CcSsNET | !!!!!!! |
| 07:47.55 | dpkg | !!!!! is, like, "And all those exclamation marks, you notice? Five? A sure sign of someone who wears his underpants on his head." -- Terry Pratchett, Maskerade |
| 07:48.06 | tensorpudding | lol |
| 07:48.14 | CcSsNET | so either they step up and say where we can get the source |
| 07:48.17 | CcSsNET | or remove it now |
| 07:48.35 | CcSsNET | i cant get the real authors code to compile as is |
| 07:48.44 | CcSsNET | so i assume someone tried to be nice and take over |
| 07:48.50 | CcSsNET | but have yet to find them |
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| 07:49.03 | Manoj | if they dd, it wll be in the copyright file |
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| 07:49.33 | Manoj | mikeeusa is a surprising author, though |
| 07:49.35 | yucatan1 | hello guys |
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| 07:49.48 | CcSsNET | http://packages.qa.debian.org/w/whowatch.html |
| 07:50.00 | CcSsNET | i guess this is the debian persons page |
| 07:50.26 | dondelelcaro | CcSsNET: no, it's just the QA page. |
| 07:50.49 | CcSsNET | eh close i guess |
| 07:50.54 | CcSsNET | but yea |
| 07:51.06 | dondelelcaro | CcSsNET: the source is available; what's the actual problem? Also, please stop overusing enter. |
| 07:51.11 | yucatan1 | i have a question i have a debian box with a iptables firewall how what is want is the following i want that range from 10.0.0.1 to 10.0.0.40 are allowd to do everything that may acces the internet over any port but range 10.0.0.40 until 10.0.0.254 can only use the ports that u set open manualy how shoul i do this? |
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| 07:52.03 | Manoj | Upstream Author: Michal Suszycki <mike@wizard.ae.krakow.pl>; Maintainer: KELEMEN Peter <fuji@debian.org>, sources are in the debian archive. |
| 07:52.23 | ranamalo | my dhcp3-server is giving itself an ip |
| 07:52.46 | CcSsNET | well my problem is why would he update it for the distro but not notify the original author, and how can he update the name version scheme regardless of the real authors version it seems rude |
| 07:52.50 | dondelelcaro | ranamalo: uh... having a dhcp3 server running on an interface which isn't statically configured is kind of a failure. |
| 07:53.17 | CcSsNET | and wheres the source i guess is most important |
| 07:53.35 | dondelelcaro | CcSsNET: the Debian package maintainer is in complete control of what the version number is; the source is available from any archive. see http://packages.debian.org/sid/whowatch, FE. |
| 07:53.56 | dondelelcaro | CcSsNET: furthermore, we've had that version distributed for at least 4 or 5 years, so it's quite possible that the upstream author was contacted. |
| 07:54.17 | ranamalo | it's the router and the internal ip keeps changing |
| 07:54.17 | ranamalo | and my internet connection goes down |
| 07:54.17 | ranamalo | what could be the issue? |
| 07:54.50 | dondelelcaro | ranamalo: the internal ip address shouldn't be changing. the external one can. |
| 07:54.52 | Devastator | ranamalo you need to set static ip on router's nic |
| 07:54.54 | CcSsNET | hmmm seems odd the original author hasnt updated to the changes made by debian |
| 07:55.18 | Devastator | CcSsNET it's not odd if he hasn't time :) |
| 07:55.24 | CcSsNET | mm |
| 07:55.28 | CcSsNET | i guess |
| 07:55.29 | Manoj | is the original author till around? |
| 07:55.32 | CcSsNET | but 4-5 years? |
| 07:55.38 | CcSsNET | true ^ |
| 07:55.49 | Devastator | CcSsNET perhaps he abandoned |
| 07:55.53 | ranamalo | dondelelcaro: it is static |
| 07:55.59 | dondelelcaro | CcSsNET: yes, it was packaged in 2002. It's quite possible that 1.6 was lost, or something else went wrong. |
| 07:56.02 | ranamalo | i just got disconnected |
| 07:56.11 | dondelelcaro | ranamalo: "23:54:17 <ranamalo> it's the router and the internal ip keeps changing" |
| 07:56.37 | ranamalo | dondelelcaro: yeah i know |
| 07:56.39 | Devastator | well, i will leave it for dondelelcaro, i can't understand anything |
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| 07:56.57 | ranamalo | but here is my interfaces: |
| 07:56.57 | CcSsNET | meh well thanks all for input. it simply worries me when things like this happens |
| 07:57.22 | dondelelcaro | CcSsNET: well, best to first figure out what actually is the case before worying too much |
| 07:57.29 | Devastator | CcSsNET i know, there's a lot of stolen projects |
| 07:57.48 | ranamalo | auto eth1 |
| 07:57.48 | ranamalo | iface eth1 inet static |
| 07:57.48 | ranamalo | address 192.168.0.1 |
| 07:57.48 | ranamalo | netmask 255.255.255.0 |
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| 07:58.00 | CcSsNET | eh im not caring about stolen project im caring about security/impostering potential risks ect ect |
| 07:58.14 | CcSsNET | but stolen projects is another thing |
| 07:58.22 | Devastator | oh, good point.. |
| 07:58.34 | dondelelcaro | CcSsNET: in order for it to be uploaded to Debian, a DD has to do it. In theory at least, the upstream revisions are checked. |
| 07:58.46 | dondelelcaro | (though honestly, I've no idea why you'd use whowatch in the first place) |
| 07:58.50 | Manoj | stolen by whom? and what is the security attack vector? |
| 07:58.56 | CcSsNET | since its 2 version numbers above the original authors even if he did update its still looking to over ride it |
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| 07:59.21 | ranamalo | i got kicked out for flood |
| 07:59.26 | Manoj | So perhaps the debian developer is the new upstream? |
| 07:59.49 | CcSsNET | quite possibly therefor im here asking the world |
| 07:59.56 | Manoj | and there have been 2 new releases of the software since it was taken over |
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| 08:00.02 | ranamalo | dondelelcaro: my external ip is 192.168.1.64 |
| 08:00.05 | CcSsNET | since it is an admin tool afterall |
| 08:00.22 | ranamalo | my isp uses rfc 1918 |
| 08:00.24 | dondelelcaro | ranamalo: see /topic |
| 08:00.40 | Manoj | CcSsNET: since no one seems to have concrete informatio, all we are doing si speculating. What is the real debian question here? |
| 08:01.07 | CcSsNET | theres no more questions just read above |
| 08:01.23 | ranamalo | dondelelcaro: what am I doing that is off topic? |
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| 08:02.09 | dondelelcaro | ranamalo: uh... no, you should read /topic, specifically the part where it tells you about not flooding. |
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| 08:02.22 | ranamalo | yeah i forgot |
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| 08:02.56 | dondelelcaro | ranamalo: but anyway, if the internal address is static, it won't change. other possible issues are that you have the dhcp server listening on the wrong interface. |
| 08:04.24 | m1ke | I have a VPS running Debian through OpenVZ. Can I modify the kernel to run at 1000Hz? |
| 08:04.56 | CcSsNET | sure, rebuild |
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| 08:06.30 | m1ke | Are you sure I'm able to if it's running off of openvz? I've heard it's different than if the vps is running off of Xen. |
| 08:07.48 | CcSsNET | idk specifics to ur environment but a kernel is a kernel imo |
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| 08:19.03 | danielle | anybody know if filezilla will auto resume download from where left off? if internet drops out? |
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| 08:23.49 | CcSsNET | ive seen people say yes to that |
| 08:23.53 | CcSsNET | unsure myself though |
| 08:26.35 | jmarsden | CcSsNET and danielle: I would say that Filezilla is *supposed* to, but I suspect that whether it does depends on what features the FTP server involved supports, in particular it should work well to resume downloads if the FTP server can do REST |
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| 08:27.34 | CcSsNET | thx jmarsden |
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| 08:28.08 | danielle | but even if i resume from a diss connection or if net drops out, it would be nice if it would resume downloading from last dir, |
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| 08:29.27 | jmarsden | danielle: If you want better support for handling network interruptions, consider using something like rsync instead of FTP. |
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| 08:30.50 | danielle | wondering if it would resume from last downloaded package| not sure if it helps but i ran que files first hoping that would help keep track |
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| 08:41.46 | [Elvis] | hej guys, I have a question...I am trying to modprobe drbd...and getting the following error: FATAL: Module drbbd not found. |
| 08:41.53 | [Elvis] | while /lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686-bigmem/kernel/drivers/block/drbd.ko is in place |
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| 08:45.43 | [Elvis] | but when I do modprobe it claims it can't find it |
| 08:45.48 | [Elvis] | ./sbin/modinfo drbd.ko works fine...I see information about the module |
| 08:46.56 | [Elvis] | hmm problem found never mind |
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| 08:56.10 | evgen_ | hello, where is i can download iso testing i386? |
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| 08:56.29 | liable | !dailies |
| 08:56.31 | liable | meh |
| 08:56.38 | liable | !netinst |
| 08:56.39 | dpkg | hmm... netinst is a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and more packages later. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ See also <check iso image>, <dialup install>, <usb install>, <pppoe install>, <netboot>, <bf>, <installer>. |
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| 08:56.58 | liable | bah, thats not helpfull either |
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| 08:57.25 | liable | the link is on the index page at debian.org, in the dev corner for the debian-boot team |
| 08:58.30 | kraut | moin |
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| 09:12.29 | pif | hi, i'm looking for (post-)?antiqua font in debian |
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| 09:22.01 | nsadmin | pif and so far you've? |
| 09:22.42 | pif | apt-file find antiqua -> texlive-fonts-extra but they don't show up in my X apps |
| 09:23.42 | nsadmin | I guess those are TeX fonts |
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| 09:28.53 | nsadmin | they're not X fonts, but I suppose it's possible they could be converted |
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| 09:47.03 | alkisg_work | Is there any way to report a debian bug, while sitting on a windows pc? E.g. can I file a bug from a web page? (it's a simple "missing gettext dependency" bug)... |
| 09:48.30 | tarzeau | alkisg_work: you can just send a mail... |
| 09:48.41 | tarzeau | alkisg_work: you can look at an existing bug for reference |
| 09:49.07 | alkisg_work | tarzeau: the mail needs to have special header formatting... :( |
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| 09:49.26 | tarzeau | alkisg_work: yes a few lines in the mail body, look at the mails in bugs.debian.org |
| 09:49.43 | tarzeau | alkisg_work: here's the latest bugs: http://asdfasdf.ethz.ch/~tar/bts/ |
| 09:49.47 | alkisg_work | It isn't easy to do that on the most common windows mailing programs |
| 09:49.55 | alkisg_work | I thought I had seen a (beta?) web page for reporting bugs before... |
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| 09:50.10 | tarzeau | alkisg_work: i don't know about that page, but it's really just these lines: |
| 09:50.40 | tarzeau | alkisg_work: Package: PKG Version: VERSION Severity: Normal(or whatever) to submit@bugs.debian.org |
| 09:50.50 | tarzeau | alkisg_work: then the rest about the problem |
| 09:50.56 | tarzeau | alkisg_work: no special mail needed |
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| 09:51.01 | alkisg_work | tarzeau: Thanks, I'll do that. : |
| 09:51.03 | alkisg_work | :) |
| 09:51.05 | amitz | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-kernel.en.html is the right step to make a linux-image package of 2.6.31 for debian lenny right? Assuming I have downloaded packages of linux-patch-debian-2.6.31 and linux-source-2.6.31? |
| 09:51.10 | tarzeau | alkisg_work: that's how i report my problems too |
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| 09:58.52 | omid8bimo | trying gnome-shell |
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| 10:00.12 | smhar | greetings |
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| 10:01.24 | smhar | today I am really in need. My debian notebook is not bootable. I think I borked both grub and the kernel. I need a way to get back running |
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| 10:01.42 | knecht | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:03.09 | smhar | I can boot using ubuntu live and mount the / partition |
| 10:03.11 | knecht | in short words: is there a way to tell an archiv manager: Compress all files except already compressed files, and put everything in a archive? (like a "do not compress these files" filter, and include them uncompressed)? |
| 10:04.08 | smhar | I also have a lenny dvd that I originally used to install before upgrading to squeeze but I couldn't use the rescue mode |
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| 10:05.06 | POTHEAD` | hello |
| 10:05.08 | POTHEAD` | how to unrar file ? |
| 10:05.11 | POTHEAD` | tar var.rar ? |
| 10:05.15 | POTHEAD` | or something like that |
| 10:05.16 | POTHEAD` | :) |
| 10:05.17 | POTHEAD` | please help me |
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| 10:06.04 | buscon | Hi, how can I use netstat or netcat to understand which service is running on a specific port ? |
| 10:06.19 | buscon | that is, I'd like to know which service is running on port 8080 |
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| 10:06.40 | Crypticfortune | buscon: i think you mean netstat. (unless you can read binary). but anyway, "sudo netstat -nlp | grep 8080" |
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| 10:08.54 | buscon | Crypticfortune: thx, I get the line now, but I don't know how to detect the service |
| 10:09.09 | Crypticfortune | so, my problem, since switching udev to the squeeze version (146-5) my CD-Rs are no-longer detected as "writable" (no "what do you want to do with this CD-R?" messages from gnome, brasero says "that's not a CD-R", etc). any ideas why? |
| 10:10.46 | knecht | POTHEAD`: install unp, thats a tool to unpack every installed archiv type for you |
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| 10:14.00 | Crypticfortune | hmmm it just occurred to me that maybe udev/testing doesn't play nicely with gnome/stable...brb |
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| 10:15.31 | ethanol | hey guys, just out of curiousity, what should I use for a required-start/stop value? http://dump.robbast.nl/bash/iptables/firewall network and syslog seemed the obvious choice to me, but perhaps I was wrong (I'm a novice at writing init.d scripts) |
| 10:15.53 | Agiofws | how do i force cp not to ask for overwrite ? |
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| 10:16.55 | Crypticfortune | Nope, that wasn't it. still no cd-burning capabilities |
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| 10:17.23 | nsadmin | man cp |
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| 10:17.31 | nsadmin | should be in there |
| 10:17.48 | jmarsden | Agiofws: unalias cp |
| 10:20.05 | Agiofws | thank you sir |
| 10:21.54 | Selveste1 | hay what is the dpkg-bot command to get apt cloning info ? |
| 10:22.17 | themill | Selveste1: /msg dpkg aptitude clone |
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| 10:22.55 | Selveste1 | themill & petemc: thanks :) |
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| 10:26.24 | fosstux | Hi! I cuttently run a server on Debian Etch - Apache2 uses PHP via fcgi. |
| 10:26.38 | Sevet | does anyone know if there's a mysql cluster 7 package anywhere yet, or does it have to be installed from the source/binaries from mysql.com? |
| 10:26.39 | fosstux | Now how can I add perl support to fcgi? |
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| 10:27.37 | smhar_ | currently, when I boot, I get a gnu grub screen with a mini shell no menus ... nothing |
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| 10:28.26 | petemc | stereo questions |
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| 10:28.58 | babilen | fosstux: Do you use mod_fastcgi? |
| 10:29.23 | babilen | fosstux: And is there any reason why you still run Etch? |
| 10:29.29 | fosstux | babilen: yes - and I'm using ispCP |
| 10:29.47 | fosstux | I'm planning to move to a new Server soon... |
| 10:29.53 | fosstux | this will then be lenny |
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| 10:30.56 | babilen | fosstux: Did you configure "AddHandlers" to handle Perl with fastcgi? (eg. "AddHandler fastcgi-script fpl") |
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| 10:37.14 | acemi | I have a cpu freq scaling problem. The frequency range which is choosen by cpufrequtils service, is more than my CPU capability |
| 10:38.17 | acemi | my cpu is celeron 1.7, p4-clockmod module says that 'hardware limits: 1.73 GHz - 13.80 GHz' |
| 10:38.30 | acemi | debian lenny |
| 10:39.30 | Crypticfortune | Woo! go for 13ghz ^^ |
| 10:40.32 | valdyn | acemi: so change the maximum, its configurable |
| 10:40.58 | acemi | I can change it with cpufreq-set and with editing /etc/default/cpufrequtils |
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| 10:41.03 | valdyn | acemi: or just dont use clockmod ( what for ? ) |
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| 10:41.58 | acemi | which module is suitable for cleron 1.7? acpi-cpufreq give 'no device error' |
| 10:42.05 | valdyn | acemi: none probably |
| 10:42.07 | babilen | fosstux: Given that I do not use fascgi I would proceed with: (i) /usr/share/doc/libapache2-mod-fastcgi (ii) http://tinyurl.com/54ret (iii) #apache |
| 10:42.19 | valdyn | acemi: i dont think your cpu supports cpu frequency scaling to save power |
| 10:42.33 | acemi | hmm |
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| 10:42.43 | fosstux | babilen: thank you |
| 10:42.56 | babilen | fosstux: Good luck :-) |
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| 10:44.14 | valdyn | acemi: p4-clockmod is shite |
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| 10:44.33 | valdyn | acemi: which is probably why its not in debian kernels? |
| 10:45.00 | acemi | it's in the debian kernel for lenny |
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| 10:46.14 | valdyn | acemi: nm, its in debian, i was looking at the wrong architecture |
| 10:46.23 | valdyn | acemi: try speedstep-ich |
| 10:46.39 | valdyn | acemi: and p4-clockmod is shite still anyway |
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| 10:48.37 | acemi | speedstep-ich gives 'No such device' |
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| 10:50.28 | valdyn | Crypticfortune: you probably have a new hal too |
| 10:51.18 | valdyn | Crypticfortune: which also doesnt work nicely with gnome/stable |
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| 10:51.50 | Stereo | hello |
| 10:52.37 | nsadmin | hello hello |
| 10:52.40 | Crypticfortune | valdyn: actually i have an old hal, but now new gnome (or at least gnome-mount and nautilis, which i figure is what matters for cd burning). I'll try a new hal too i guess... |
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| 10:53.40 | Stereo | I was wondering, does anyone know how I can have apache's mod_backtrace or mod_whatkilledus on oldstable ? |
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| 10:57.26 | babilen | Which reminds me: Is there any way to unpack a single debian package into a tmp chroot like directory? I think of something like ./libapache2-mod-fastcgi/etc/apache2/mods-available/... |
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| 10:57.58 | beardy | babilen: man dpkg-deb |
| 10:59.07 | babilen | beardy: Great! Exactly what I was looking for. That might help a lot with questions like the one asked by fosstux. |
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| 11:04.31 | nsadmin | Stereo: what versions of those modules? what version of apache were available for etch? |
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| 11:13.08 | jelly | macrobat_: consolechars |
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| 11:14.30 | macrobat_ | what font formats work with? consolechars |
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| 11:21.26 | jpin | Hi, I'm getting this when trying to install a new module in debian (modprobe): anybody has a hint? http://pastie.org/679788 |
| 11:21.45 | nsadmin | so I installed flashplayer-mozilla in response to someone suggesting it after I asked about how to get flash in konq |
| 11:22.13 | nsadmin | it works (better too) in iceweasel but still nothing in konq |
| 11:22.30 | nsadmin | specifically youtube works in moz but not in konq |
| 11:23.04 | Stereo | nsadmin: any version, really. Apache2 was 2.2.3-4+etch10 |
| 11:23.06 | streuner_ | jpin: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 11:23.19 | jelly | macrobat: there are separate .psf fonts for the console. Which Debian release? |
| 11:23.58 | jpin | streuner_: ii libc6 2.9-9 GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 11:24.03 | macrobat | im on unstable |
| 11:24.16 | streuner_ | judd, versions libc6 |
| 11:24.17 | judd | streuner_: libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch9+b1 lenny: 2.7-18 squeeze: 2.9-25 sid: 2.10.1-3 |
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| 11:24.55 | streuner_ | jpin: please show us your sources.list in paste.debian.net |
| 11:24.57 | nsadmin | Stereo: was that version of apache2 accepting the modules you want? were they available as packages? did they come with apache? |
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| 11:25.19 | jpin | streuner_: debian sources, and virtual box |
| 11:25.31 | jpin | streuner_: but give me a sec |
| 11:25.31 | jelly | macrobat: in that case, install "kbd" and use setupcon or setfont. Read /usr/share/doc/console-setup/README.fonts.gz |
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| 11:26.53 | jpin | streuner_: http://paste.debian.net/50476/ |
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| 11:27.25 | jpin | streuner_: missing line deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian intrepid non-free from another file |
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| 11:28.02 | streuner_ | And you wondering with THAT mess, why it doesnt work? :-) |
| 11:28.21 | jpin | streuner_: what do you mean? :) ubuntu package? |
| 11:28.25 | streuner_ | virtualbox is in debian, IIRC |
| 11:28.29 | macrobat | jelly: thank you. i wondered why i didnt have setfont or why i couldnt find it :) |
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| 11:28.41 | jpin | streuner_: ah |
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| 11:29.03 | jpin | streuner_: but not version 3 |
| 11:29.13 | streuner_ | jpin: use a debian kernel, use only ONE branch and last not least use the package out debian. It should work then |
| 11:29.14 | jpin | (I think) |
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| 11:30.16 | streuner_ | jpin: comment all lines in your sources.list, exept deb http://ftp.pt.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free |
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| 11:31.09 | streuner_ | jpin, and run "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" |
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| 11:32.24 | jpin | streuner_: that upgrade would cost me 1gb downloading... sticking with aptitude here with selected packages |
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| 11:36.16 | jpin | streuner_: only with the testing line in sources.list, I can't find the virtual box package |
| 11:36.31 | jpin | doesn't seem to be available |
| 11:36.45 | streuner_ | judd, version virtualbox |
| 11:36.47 | judd | streuner_: (version takes no arguments) -- Returns the version of the current bot. |
| 11:36.51 | streuner_ | judd, versions virtualbox |
| 11:36.52 | judd | streuner_: virtualbox -- |
| 11:37.54 | macrobat | jelly: kbd is in conflict with console-tools and console-tools has no man page |
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| 11:38.06 | jpin | streuner_: so I guess I have to use the one from virtualbox.org |
| 11:38.11 | jelly | macrobat: for some reason debian has both console-tools (consolechars) and kbd (setfont), but kbd seems to be better featured |
| 11:38.24 | streuner_ | jpin: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=virtualbox |
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| 11:38.50 | jpin | streuner_: hm.. in testing? |
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| 11:39.09 | jelly | macrobat: ie. consolechars can't even load fonts that differ from 8 pixel width, like those in console-terminus package |
| 11:39.29 | streuner_ | judd, versions virtualbox-ose |
| 11:39.29 | judd | streuner_: virtualbox-ose -- etch-backports: 1.6.6-dfsg-3~bpo40+1 lenny: 1.6.6-dfsg-3 lenny-backports: 3.0.6-dfsg-1~bpo50+1 squeeze: 3.0.8-dfsg-1 sid: 3.0.10-dfsg-1 |
| 11:39.37 | streuner_ | jpin: ^^^ |
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| 11:39.57 | Stereo | nsadmin: the modules were available for that version, but they don't seem to be available as packages. I was wondering whether there was something obvious I didn't see, otherwise we'll upgrade to lenny as we're supposed to anyway |
| 11:40.02 | jpin | streuner_: installing now :-) |
| 11:40.05 | flyguy97 | I need help with re-packaging a deb file. I have the sources (the dsc, orig.tar.gz and diff.gz) but how do I reconstruct so I can build myself, I want to add it to a PPA |
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| 11:41.31 | at0m | hi, anyone know why some icons/popups/mythtv settings/... show 'barred' like http://users.telenet.be/at0m/tmp/icon_barred.png ? |
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| 11:41.42 | at0m | installing some fonts helped partially, but now the icon cannot have to do w fonts |
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| 11:41.51 | at0m | machine's on testing > gdm > fluxbox |
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| 11:43.47 | Stereo | nsadmin: ah, I see they weren't part of the apache trunk |
| 11:43.48 | at0m | sometimes that barred pidgin tray-icon is repeated a couple times offset to the right of the tray |
| 11:43.54 | jpin | streuner_: http://paste.debian.net/50477/ |
| 11:43.57 | Stereo | nsadmin: nevermind then, thank you for your help ! |
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| 11:45.07 | streuner_ | !unix lessons |
| 11:45.07 | dpkg | it has been said that unix lessons is (1) Don't change the permissions, (2) back up your data, (3) keep it simple, stupid, (4) read the fscking manual, (5) don't fsck with package management, (6) don't type anything you don't understand, (7) always have a boot floppy or CD, (8) read your log files, (9) the FIRST error is the one that counts, (10) don't leave your root shell until you TEST your changes, (11) don't be root when you don't have to be |
| 11:45.33 | streuner_ | jpin: (9) |
| 11:45.45 | streuner_ | jpin: Starting VirtualBox kernel modulesNo suitable module for running kernel found failed! |
| 11:45.45 | streuner_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:46.52 | jpin | streuner_: hm.. I'm running 2.6.31 .. but, isn't vbox suppose to compile for 2.6.31? (Am I getting this wrong?) |
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| 11:47.53 | jpin | streuner_: I mean, how can I get the module for the running kernel? |
| 11:48.12 | streuner_ | well, i would use a Debian kernel, make life much easier :-) |
| 11:48.21 | jpin | streuner_: it is a deb kernel |
| 11:48.24 | streuner_ | s/make/makes/ |
| 11:48.31 | streuner_ | but a custom one? |
| 11:48.39 | jpin | err... from experimental |
| 11:48.45 | streuner_ | .31 isnt in testing... |
| 11:48.50 | jpin | :-/ |
| 11:48.52 | streuner_ | well |
| 11:49.07 | jpin | aww... come on, I can't go back to 2.6.30 :P |
| 11:49.19 | streuner_ | good luck then :-) |
| 11:49.22 | jpin | eheh |
| 11:50.00 | streuner_ | in that case you prolly have to compile virtualbox and the modules for that kernel, not sure |
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| 11:52.07 | jpin | streuner_: I was hoping that vbox would take care of that, in fact, the package from virtualbox.org usually does it |
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| 11:52.31 | jpin | (only the modules, not the entire vbox) |
| 11:53.38 | hark | jpin: use m-a to build it from the source package |
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| 11:55.20 | jpin | hark: virtualbox-ose-guest-source? |
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| 11:56.15 | hark | jpin: read the package descriptions and the README.Debian in /usr/share/doc for them |
| 11:56.17 | GMF | hi guys |
| 11:56.21 | streuner_ | jpin, m-a -t list | grep -E '^[^ ].*\(' | cut -d " " -f 1 | sort |
| 11:56.45 | hark | jpin: apt-cache show virtualbox-ose |
| 11:56.47 | streuner_ | jpin: that command list available packages for m-a |
| 11:56.49 | `GMF` | how do I update the dns nameservers after I edit the dns-* entries on /etc/network/interfaces ? |
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| 11:58.52 | pim_ | Hello I want to install debian from USB. I used unetbootin to make a bootable usb stick from the debian .iso but when I start the install, it wants to load the data from a cd, which isn't there |
| 11:59.01 | pim_ | so what do I do? |
| 11:59.20 | hark | `GMF`: do you have resolvconf installed? |
| 11:59.31 | hark | pim_: /msg dpkg usb install |
| 11:59.50 | `GMF` | yes |
| 11:59.53 | `GMF` | I do |
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| 12:00.36 | pim_ | is it not possible to create the bootable stick from windows? |
| 12:01.34 | `GMF` | pim_, http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto/USB |
| 12:01.40 | sepult | it is |
| 12:01.52 | sepult | you just need zcat on windows |
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| 12:02.03 | sepult | for that |
| 12:02.15 | sepult | look for gnu tools for windows or so on google |
| 12:02.43 | sepult | then you can just zcat the minimal.iso to the usb |
| 12:02.49 | yucatan1 | i have a question i use iptables for my filewall but what i want is that 10.0.0.1 until 10.0.0.40 can connect the internet freely and that from 10.0.0.40 until 10.0.0.254 may only connect to the internet using ports that i openen |
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| 12:03.43 | jpin | streuner_ / hark: $ m-a install vritualbox-ose-source ----- gives an error that tells me to check "/var/cache/modass/virtualbox-ose-source" for details, when I go there, the file doesn't exist |
| 12:04.45 | hark | jpin: read /usr/share/doc/virtualbox-ose-source/README.Debian |
| 12:05.21 | silidan | hi, i wonder, i have a 2.8GHz core2quad with 4 gig of ram and debian 64 bit sid, when watching youtube videos (the ones that actually work, not all do) firefox slows down alot... same on lenny, any hints tips to improve firefox performance? |
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| 12:05.48 | NiLon | silidan could be your flash |
| 12:06.17 | silidan | NiLon, yea i tought of that, but what can i do about it? |
| 12:06.36 | NiLon | upgrade to latest & hope best |
| 12:06.49 | `GMF` | hark, yes I do have resolvconf |
| 12:06.49 | NiLon | or then google like small animal and try to find somekind solution :p |
| 12:07.06 | Sevet | does anyone know if there's a mysql cluster 7 package anywhere yet, or does it have to be installed from the source/binaries from mysql.com? |
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| 12:07.26 | `GMF` | hark, seems it doesnt update the dns nameservers if I just do ifdown ifup |
| 12:07.29 | hark | `GMF`: so it doesn't get updated when you bring the interface up? |
| 12:07.40 | `GMF` | hark, seem so |
| 12:08.30 | silidan | o i just see i didnt install the flashplugin-nonfree package... |
| 12:09.00 | pim_ | sepult does it need to be the minimal iso? |
| 12:09.23 | streuner_ | jpin: http://paste.debian.net/50478/ |
| 12:09.43 | sepult | it has to be the minimal.iso of hd-media or so |
| 12:09.49 | silidan | omg ok, better now, damnit... i have to remember to always search synaptic... |
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| 12:09.54 | Devastator | is there a way to know "pci=assign-busses" is actually beeing executed? |
| 12:10.37 | jpin | streuner_: failed? |
| 12:10.55 | streuner_ | jpin: yes, but it creates the modules after the messages... |
| 12:11.21 | sepult | + you have to put the initrd of netinstall to it too in order to |
| 12:11.21 | sepult | have network modules available if you depend on it |
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| 12:11.32 | jpin | streuner_: but, do they load? |
| 12:11.40 | streuner_ | Doing initial module builds |
| 12:11.40 | streuner_ | Installing initial modules |
| 12:11.58 | streuner_ | i guess so :-) |
| 12:12.04 | sepult | the whole procedure is explained on debians site |
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| 12:12.19 | hark | jpin: did you do the two commands as in the README? |
| 12:12.22 | sepult | i did it once that way |
| 12:12.25 | silidan | hm... going fullscreen still slows extremly down |
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| 12:12.33 | sepult | from windows -> to usb directly |
| 12:12.47 | streuner_ | jpin: from lsmod "vboxdrv 114056 1 vboxnetflt" |
| 12:13.20 | streuner_ | jpin: and iam running a .24 kernel.... |
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| 12:13.35 | jpin | streuner_: here $modprobe vboxdrv --- gives error inserting |
| 12:14.11 | jpin | hark: basically, the readme states that version 3.0 should be handled by dkms -- and that if it fails, I should make sure kernel headers match the kernel |
| 12:14.16 | silidan | alright, so i installed the flashplugin-nonfree, flash video is good now, only when i go fullscreen it slows down extremly |
| 12:14.21 | streuner_ | jpin: do you have the headers for your kernel installed? |
| 12:14.27 | jpin | streuner_: yes |
| 12:14.35 | streuner_ | for .31? |
| 12:14.39 | silidan | any hints tips tricks to get that damn fucking flash working properly? |
| 12:15.21 | hark | jpin: that's not what /usr/share/doc/virtualbox-ose-source/README.Debian says... |
| 12:15.37 | `GMF` | hark, i fixed it |
| 12:15.42 | jpin | hark: in the end -- it states "starting from 3.0..." |
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| 12:16.03 | jpin | hark: I did tried the m-a stuff from the readme as well, but it failed (the prepare and so on) |
| 12:16.39 | jpin | streuner_: yes, for 2.6.31 trunk |
| 12:16.40 | hark | jpin: if the prepare failed, you don't have the headers. pastebin the errors you're getting |
| 12:16.47 | jpin | hark: hm.. |
| 12:16.49 | jpin | k |
| 12:17.10 | hark | `GMF`: what was it? |
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| 12:17.18 | jpin | hark: no, the prepare was ok |
| 12:17.36 | jpin | hark: the m-a auto-install after the prepare failed |
| 12:17.48 | hark | jpin: what does uname -r say? |
| 12:17.49 | jpin | hark: (second command in debian readme) |
| 12:17.58 | jpin | 2.6.31-trunk-686 |
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| 12:18.15 | jpin | proc/version: Linux version 2.6.31-trunk-686 (Debian 2.6.31-1~experimental.1) (maks@debian.org) (gcc version 4.3.4 (Debian 4.3.4-5) ) #1 SMP Thu Oct 8 20:32:34 UTC 2009 |
| 12:19.40 | hark | jpin: ok, check the bts. there's a fix for it there |
| 12:20.13 | jpin | bts? |
| 12:20.53 | hark | jpin: wait |
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| 12:22.23 | d1b | jpin: bug tracker :) |
| 12:22.29 | silidan | Problem: Debian Sid 64bit (2.6.30-2-amd64), flashplugin-nonfree installed, in iceweasel (firefox) 3.5.4 flash works fine in original size but slows down extremly when going FullScreen (2,8GHz Core2Quad 4gig ram), possible solutions? |
| 12:22.37 | jpin | d1b: ah |
| 12:22.45 | yucatan1 | i have a question i use iptables for my filewall but what i want is that 10.0.0.1 until 10.0.0.40 can connect the internet freely and that from 10.0.0.40 until 10.0.0.254 may only connect to the internet using ports that i openen |
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| 12:23.05 | EasyTUX | firefox em sorry icewasel is eating all my cpu ressources, same with screen saver but without collateral consequences (ie audacious sound interrupted, etc...) What should I do ? |
| 12:23.17 | EasyTUX | Em 5.0.3 lenny. |
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| 12:23.35 | silidan | o i forgot to mention on my lenny install i have the same problem... |
| 12:23.39 | EasyTUX | 2.4G proc |
| 12:23.47 | EasyTUX | *cpu |
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| 12:24.26 | hark | jpin: sorry, just tried it here, builds fine with the trunk kernel. the fix was for nvidia.. i got confused |
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| 12:25.12 | EasyTUX | This Pb is particularly significant when launching iceweasel alternative of libflashplayer... |
| 12:25.14 | jpin | hark: no problem -- by the way, the headers you tried, what is the version? |
| 12:25.25 | hark | jpin: pastebin the error |
| 12:25.39 | hark | `GMF`: what was the reason? |
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| 12:26.35 | d1b | EasyTUX: perhaps the cpu ou have is slow. firefox / iceweasel can use a lot of cpu. |
| 12:26.39 | d1b | you* |
| 12:26.47 | hark | jpin: ii linux-headers-2.6.31-trunk-686 2.6.31-1~experimental.2 Header files for Linux 2.6.31-trunk-686 |
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| 12:28.03 | EasyTUX | d1b: 2.4 Ghz *you* 'll say its SLOW ?!... |
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| 12:30.24 | EasyTUX | d1b: The problem happens in a "guest" qemu-kvm vm of debian though when I assign to it more CPUs it's even worse... |
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| 12:30.40 | jpin | hark: http://paste.debian.net/50481/ |
| 12:31.01 | jpin | hark: and the version of the linux-image? (thanks) |
| 12:31.29 | jpin | hark: just to check if you have linux-image-*experimental.1 |
| 12:32.28 | hark | jpin: ii linux-image-2.6.31-trunk-686 2.6.31-1~experimental.2 Linux 2.6.31 for modern PCs |
| 12:32.35 | jpin | ah! |
| 12:32.51 | hark | !info linux-image-2.6.31-trunk-686 experimental |
| 12:32.53 | jpin | I can't find that experimental.2 |
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| 12:33.25 | jpin | mine is: ii linux-image-2.6.31-trunk-686 2.6.31-1~experimental.1 Linux 2.6.31 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4 |
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| 12:34.29 | EasyTUX | silidan: Check for a better display driver... |
| 12:35.19 | hark | jpin: use -t (--text-mode) .. the paste does not say much |
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| 12:38.27 | pim_ | how can I find out what the name is of an inserted usb drive in linux? |
| 12:38.32 | pim_ | as /dev/sdx |
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| 12:39.20 | jpin | hark: http://paste.debian.net/50481/ |
| 12:39.24 | hark | pim_: check dmesg |
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| 12:39.59 | jpin | hark: where did you get linux-image-*experimental.2 |
| 12:39.59 | Devastator | i'm trying to setup a pcmcia ethernet card but having trouble. /etc/init.d/pcmciautils start returns "PCMCIA bridge driver already present in kernel" |
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| 12:40.57 | hark | jpin: yeah, i saw that pastebin output of m-a a-i -t virtualbox-ose-source instead |
| 12:41.13 | hark | jpin: when it was in experimental |
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| 12:42.25 | pim_ | could it be sdb? |
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| 12:44.07 | pim_ | since: sudo zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdb |
| 12:44.12 | pim_ | gives permission denied |
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| 12:47.50 | pim_ | ok you have to chmod 777 the drive to be able to write to it |
| 12:47.59 | hark | sudo doesn't work that way, do a sudo sh -c "zcat .." |
| 12:48.19 | hark | pim_: see the examples section in man sudo |
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| 12:52.07 | jelly | judd: versions linux-image-2.6.31-trunk-686 |
| 12:52.07 | judd | jelly: linux-image-2.6.31-trunk-686 -- |
| 12:52.55 | jelly | judd: versions linux-image-2.6.31-1-686 |
| 12:52.56 | judd | jelly: linux-image-2.6.31-1-686 -- |
| 12:53.11 | jelly | judd: versions linux-image-2.6.31-1-amd64 --arch amd64 |
| 12:53.11 | judd | jelly: linux-image-2.6.31-1-amd64 -- sid: 2.6.31-1 |
| 12:53.20 | jelly | huh, no i386 yet? |
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| 12:54.12 | hark | yeah |
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| 12:58.22 | hark | jpin: did you try it? |
| 12:59.38 | jpin | hark: been trying a few things, but nothing -- did you suggest something that I forgot? |
| 12:59.57 | Zapelius | Is the libpar-packer-perl (lenny: 0.978-1+b1) going to be fixed (squeeze: 0.991-2) anytime soon ? It's a few days since the bugfix in squeeze (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=551356#48) |
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| 13:00.23 | silidan | EasyTUX, i have installed an NVIDIA CUDA driver fomr the Website of NVIDIA, opengl games run excellent, i doubt that thats the problem... |
| 13:00.24 | hark | jpin: m-a a-i -t virtualbox-ose-source |
| 13:00.35 | Zapelius | so I don't have to play with backports and stuff... |
| 13:00.49 | jpin | hark: yes, did that awhile ago -- http://paste.debian.net/50482/ |
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| 13:01.21 | Zapelius | just a random quess based on earlier experience is fine |
| 13:01.35 | hark | jpin: oh, ok. you pasted the other url earlier |
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| 13:02.25 | jpin | hark: sorry about that -- what do you think? I mean that source tarball error is not making sense to me |
| 13:02.49 | hark | jpin: does "m-a a-i -t virtualbox-ose" give the same error? |
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| 13:03.19 | hark | jpin: what's the output of "dpkg -l virtualbox-ose-source |tail -1" ? |
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| 13:03.28 | jpin | hark: yes, same error |
| 13:03.41 | jpin | ii virtualbox-ose-source 3.0.10-dfsg-1 x86 virtualization solution - kernel module source |
| 13:03.49 | hark | do you have a /usr/src/virtualbox-ose.tar.bz2 ? |
| 13:03.59 | jpin | dont think so, give me a sec |
| 13:04.17 | hark | did you delete it? |
| 13:04.26 | jpin | hark: nope. just the dir vboxdrv-* |
| 13:04.29 | jpin | hark: no |
| 13:04.57 | jpin | I've been trying to find that file myself, going to try to reinstall the.. virtualbox-ose-sourcE? |
| 13:05.30 | hark | judd: versions virtualbox-ose-source |
| 13:05.31 | judd | hark: virtualbox-ose-source -- etch-backports: 1.6.6-dfsg-3~bpo40+1 lenny: 1.6.6-dfsg-3 sid: 1.6.6-dfsg-3 experimental: 2.1.2-dfsg-1 squeeze: 3.0.6-dfsg-1 lenny-backports: 3.0.8-dfsg-1~bpo50+1 squeeze: 3.0.8-dfsg-1 sid: 3.0.10-dfsg-1 |
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| 13:06.27 | EasyTUX | Then your soft sucks, did you get 64 bit flashplayer lab release ? |
| 13:06.40 | EasyTUX | silidan: Then your soft sucks, did you get 64 bit flashplayer lab release ? |
| 13:06.52 | hark | jpin: yes, you should have /usr/src/virtualbox-ose.tar.bz2 then |
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| 13:08.37 | jpin | hark: just uninstalled virtualbox-ose-source, and installed it again, all that happens is new directories in /usr/src, no tarball |
| 13:08.47 | jpin | it is using dkms |
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| 13:09.54 | hark | jpin: ah, i was using 3.0.8. i'll try 3.0.10 here to check |
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| 13:10.25 | jpin | hmm.. going to try 3.0.8 here if possible |
| 13:11.28 | yucatan1 | i have a question i use iptables for my filewall but what i want is that 10.0.0.1 until 10.0.0.40 can connect the internet freely and that from 10.0.0.40 until 10.0.0.254 may only connect to the internet using ports that i openen |
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| 13:13.17 | blj | how do i sync server time with ntp? |
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| 13:16.08 | hark | jpin: i see it now. it uses dkms, so m-a would not have worked (it'll still work for 3.0.8) |
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| 13:16.32 | hark | finally dkms is being used |
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| 13:17.19 | jpin | hark: yeah |
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| 13:18.08 | hark | jpin: modprobe vboxdrv does not work? |
| 13:18.44 | jpin | hark: nope |
| 13:18.46 | hark | blj: it should sync it automatically |
| 13:19.01 | jpin | hark: FATAL: Error inserting vboxdrv (/lib/modules/2.6.31-trunk-686/updates/dkms/vboxdrv.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) |
| 13:19.21 | jpin | dmesg states... vboxdrv: disagrees about version of symbol misc_register |
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| 13:19.30 | jpin | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.34 | Titan8990 | jpin, where did you get the kernel? |
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| 13:19.40 | blj | hark: ok, thanks. it seems it is one hour faster than what it should be. so wondering why it does not sync |
| 13:19.44 | jpin | Titan8990: debian reps |
| 13:19.51 | Titan8990 | judd, kernels |
| 13:19.52 | judd | Titan8990: Available kernel versions are: trunk: 2.6.31-rc6-686 (2.6.31~rc6-1~experimental.1~snapshot.14160); sid: 2.6.30-2-686 (2.6.30-8); squeeze: 2.6.30-2-686 (2.6.30-8); lenny-backports: 2.6.30-bpo.2-686 (2.6.30-8~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-17); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.8etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-24) |
| 13:20.19 | Titan8990 | experimental.... |
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| 13:20.28 | jpin | yes |
| 13:20.32 | hark | blj: it depends, make sure your timezone is correct and the utc setting in /etc/rcS |
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| 13:21.00 | hark | !tell blj about set the time |
| 13:23.16 | Titan8990 | jpin, you won't get much community support for that kernel. consider checking out the BTS |
| 13:23.30 | sphenxes | i have a problem with my keyboard. it types english on a german layout. I can change to german once more with the command setxkbmap de. i would like to activate this command on boot. where should i add the command setxkbmap de_ |
| 13:23.51 | jpin | Titan8990: I understand, just that hark had the same kernel version and it worked for him |
| 13:24.16 | jpin | Titan8990: the only issue is that his linux-image is experimental.2, while mine is experimental.1 |
| 13:24.36 | jpin | Titan8990: and I can't find that experimental.2 package anywhere |
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| 13:25.05 | Hyperzid | Anyone know how to find the origin of a mail message in postfix? |
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| 13:25.36 | Hyperzid | I got an smtp id |
| 13:26.31 | Hyperzid | from a spam abuse complains. |
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| 13:27.01 | Hyperzid | Does it exists some logs somewhere.. where I can check this up? |
| 13:27.09 | hark | jpin: run dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r) , see if you get the same error |
| 13:27.46 | valdyn | sphenxes: ~/.xsession |
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| 13:30.09 | Titan8990 | Hyperzid, it doesn't say in /var/log/mail? |
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| 13:31.27 | ethanol | my ssh connection is dropped quite frequently (crappy line at office here), but my shell keeps on running even when I am dropped. there seems to be no timeout? |
| 13:31.40 | danielle | Getting: dists/karmic-backports/main/debian-installer/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2... dists/karmic-backports/main/debian-installer/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 failed 404 Not Found any one know how to fix? in in deb mirror |
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| 13:32.12 | valdyn | danielle: wrong channel |
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| 13:32.58 | Titan8990 | ethanol, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/TCP-Keepalive-HOWTO/overview.html |
| 13:33.09 | Titan8990 | ethanol, i think that may be what your looking for |
| 13:33.25 | danielle | oh whoops |
| 13:33.29 | danielle | sorry guys |
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| 13:34.13 | jpin | hark: seems to fail as well, did the reconfigure and re-installed 3.0.10 |
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| 13:34.24 | Hyperzid | Titan8990: All I see is /var/log.. mail.err mail.info mail.log mail.warn |
| 13:34.31 | danielle | titan no it's go to do with debmirror nor being able to read thAT FILE XX.BZ2 on the iinet ftp server |
| 13:34.56 | sphenxes | valdyn, thanks |
| 13:35.08 | ethanol | hrm |
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| 13:35.17 | ethanol | tcp keepalive is set to on in sshd config. |
| 13:35.31 | ethanol | how does one specify a timeout limit though? |
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| 13:36.15 | Sevet | ethanol: check the ClientAliveCountMax |
| 13:36.21 | Sevet | and ClientAliveCountMax variables |
| 13:36.46 | Titan8990 | danielle, why are you telling me? |
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| 13:36.53 | Sevet | it's like tcp keepalive, but part of the ssh protocol not tcp |
| 13:37.08 | Sevet | it'll close the conncetion and kill your shell if it detects your client is connected |
| 13:38.10 | danielle | thort i would explain :P here is a past bin anyway http://pastebin.com/d4dad2cf4 |
| 13:38.15 | Sevet | you might also want to check out GNU Screen if you're getting disconnected that often |
| 13:38.29 | Sevet | 'screen' to start a session, 'screen -r' to reconnect to it |
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| 13:38.38 | Sevet | that way you don't lose anything you're in the middle of working on |
| 13:38.48 | Titan8990 | danielle, your in the wrong channel |
| 13:38.53 | themill | danielle: please ask about ubuntu mirrors in #ubuntu or #kubuntu |
| 13:39.23 | danielle | oh i'm still in debian soz |
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| 13:41.52 | ethanol | Sevet: thanks |
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| 13:57.09 | jelly | !qotd0 |
| 13:57.09 | dpkg | <punchik> everytime i use google i get a message that says its no safe , and other people can read what im writing because its not encrypted <Guerin> punchik: do you care if people see what you google for? <punchik> yes <punchik> i dont want people to know that i use to look for shemales |
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| 13:57.44 | d1b | jelly: ... |
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| 13:58.12 | jelly | dots :( |
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| 14:00.04 | lupine_85 | scratches his head at ifupdown |
| 14:00.05 | d1b | jelly: i prefer my rick james youtube link. |
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| 14:00.29 | lupine_85 | when I run a program that makes an external command to ifup from cron, it fails; but when I run it from the command-line, it succeeds |
| 14:00.37 | lupine_85 | anyone know why that might be? |
| 14:01.09 | jelly | lupine_85: how does it fail? |
| 14:01.29 | jelly | which program is it, does it require being run in a tty? |
| 14:01.30 | lupine_85 | as far as I can tell, it returns a non-zero error code with no output to STDOUT/STDERR |
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| 14:01.34 | jelly | on* a tty |
| 14:01.51 | lupine_85 | the code is a ruby program - /that/ runs fine regardless |
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| 14:02.05 | Hyperzid | Titan8990: is it possible to enable logging of this, if I dont have that already? |
| 14:02.12 | lupine_85 | it detects ifup returning a non-zero error code and performs a smart rollback of a bunch of stuff |
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| 14:02.30 | jelly | does it succeed if you run it in an interactive shell with foo < /dev/null > somewhere 2>&1 , lupine_85? |
| 14:02.32 | lupine_85 | wonder if redirecting stdout/stderr in the crontab will fix it |
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| 14:03.06 | lupine_85 | mm, it's that kind of thing I'm wondering |
| 14:03.09 | lupine_85 | must examine :) |
| 14:04.25 | Titan8990 | Hyperzid, not familiar with postfix, that is just where the maillogs go in exim and sendmail |
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| 14:05.01 | Hyperzid | Titan8990: Ok. |
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| 14:06.52 | Sevet | lupine_85: could it be something in the environment, the path doesn't include something that's needed perhaps? |
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| 14:07.12 | lupine_85 | hmm, perhaps |
| 14:07.38 | lupine_85 | thing is, ifupdown /never/ returns a non-zero error code in any failure case i've ever seen |
| 14:07.42 | lupine_85 | one of its more annoying bugs |
| 14:07.47 | Sevet | and i think jelly's point was more that perhaps it dislikes not having a stdin, than anything about stdout/stderr |
| 14:08.18 | Sevet | what is the error code? |
| 14:08.26 | Sevet | (if you know) |
| 14:08.34 | lupine_85 | I don't, unfortunately |
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| 14:08.44 | lupine_85 | should be gettable though |
| 14:08.55 | lupine_85 | is just setting up another testcase |
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| 14:09.41 | Sevet | my *guess* is your program runs ifup without a full path and the PATH doesn't have the directory ifup is in in it |
| 14:10.51 | lupine_85 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:11.00 | lupine_85 | so yeah, no path... and it's in /sbin |
| 14:11.12 | lupine_85 | run as root, mind, but who knows what they might have as the path |
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| 14:11.34 | Titan8990 | can anyone make a quick recommendation on a simplistic image editor (i.e. not GIMP). I just need to draw a square on an existing image |
| 14:11.35 | Sevet | default path in root's cron != default pass in root's console |
| 14:11.47 | Sevet | (since it's set in .profile, .bashrc etc which are ignored by cron) |
| 14:12.00 | lupine_85 | yeah, that seems much more likely than some weird stdin/stdout gubbins |
| 14:12.16 | lupine_85 | writes up a fix |
| 14:12.22 | lupine_85 | thanks for the insight :) |
| 14:12.22 | ultralazer | Titan. Pixel32, except it's commercial. or there's always mtpaint if it is really simple. mtpaint is xpaint on various enhancing neurochems. |
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| 14:13.23 | Sevet | lupine_85: from man crontab: "PATH is set to /usr/bin:/bin" |
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| 14:34.28 | nots | hi. I have removed exim4-base but it still sends me empty eximstats reports by email. There is /etc/cron.daily/exim4-base (and also /etc/logrotate.d/exim4-base). I believe these files must be removed not only when purged but when uninstalled |
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| 14:35.13 | _KaszpiR_ | just do it, then |
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| 14:36.01 | nots | I will. Don't you see it as a bug? Maybe it's not but I wanted to share it with all you |
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| 14:47.25 | Pampeano | register |
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| 14:47.40 | d1b | Pampeano: orly |
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| 14:48.00 | Pampeano | ?? |
| 14:48.15 | d1b | Pampeano: you said register. |
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| 14:48.47 | d1b | did you mean /msg nickserv identify register... |
| 14:48.58 | Pampeano | Ok, i am try... |
| 14:49.08 | d1b | nevermind. |
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| 14:51.59 | Pampeano | I think i've.. |
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| 14:52.55 | silidan | EasyTUX: dunno, how can i tell if i got the 64 bit flashplayer lab release? (i only installed the flashplugin-nonfree package via synaptic) |
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| 14:54.03 | Pampeano | d1b, thanks, i'm Brazilian and my english is poor, thank you very much... |
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| 14:55.36 | abrotman | silidan: about:plugins perhaps ? |
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| 14:56.26 | macrobat | i dont get all apps into the debian menu in awesome (like OOo, gimp, epdfview). how can i make debian menu generate it? |
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| 14:58.28 | macrobat | installing now :) |
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| 15:00.30 | macrobat | how do i use it? there's no man page |
| 15:00.51 | abrotman | macrobat: have you done 'aptitude install xorg' ? |
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| 15:03.09 | macrobat | installing... |
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| 15:04.37 | macrobat | ok |
| 15:05.09 | EasyTUX | silidan : Their size may differ... |
| 15:05.49 | berzerka | hi guys. what tool do i use to measure network bandwidth usage? (like there's iotop for disk io..) |
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| 15:06.17 | macrobat | berzerka: for example darkstat |
| 15:06.27 | avu | or iptraf |
| 15:06.44 | EasyTUX | silidan: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 10278616 2009-10-20 13:20 libflashplayer.so-32 |
| 15:06.54 | EasyTUX | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 9560488 2009-10-20 13:25 libflashplayer.so-64 |
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| 15:07.02 | berzerka | iptraf sounds more like what i'm after. thanks! |
| 15:07.06 | EasyTUX | From adobe... |
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| 15:10.54 | donspaulding | I'm about to add the chipmunk library to my C program, is there a standard location to put library dependencies that don't have debian packages? |
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| 15:11.22 | abrotman | /usr/local/lib/ ? |
| 15:11.33 | abrotman | macrobat: all working ? |
| 15:11.37 | donspaulding | abrotman: will gcc find it there? |
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| 15:12.42 | icebrain | donspaulding: you can make a deb package when you install the lib, then it you can cleanly remove it in apt/aptitude |
| 15:13.07 | balzac5000 | I've upgraded a box to Lenny and now I'm unable to SCP into it from an Etch box. I'm getting this series of errors http://pastebin.ca/1653155 Both boxes have all current patches. |
| 15:13.07 | abrotman | or use stow/checkinstall |
| 15:13.31 | abrotman | looks like your key is malformed |
| 15:13.31 | balzac5000 | The "missing whitespace" messages implies a syntax problem but I can't figure out what the issue is... |
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| 15:13.34 | Sneex | ufw versus iptables converions -- is it OK to add to ufw's rules with a pure iptables command? |
| 15:13.48 | balzac5000 | abrotman: I appreciate the response! |
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| 15:14.14 | donspaulding | I'm not sure I want to think about packaging right now... I'm just learning how to *code* again. |
| 15:14.15 | balzac5000 | I'm able to SSH into the upgraded box from other Etch installations |
| 15:14.23 | Manoj | debug2: no key of type 2 for host olympic.xxx.com |
| 15:14.45 | balzac5000 | Manoj: I saw that too - Google isn't helpful on what that means |
| 15:14.49 | Manoj | what is the version of sshd installed on olympic? |
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| 15:15.09 | balzac5000 | Manoj: OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-5, OpenSSL 0.9.8g 19 Oct 2007 |
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| 15:15.24 | abrotman | Sneex: are you using Ubuntu? |
| 15:15.27 | balzac5000 | and OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9etch3, OpenSSL 0.9.8c 05 Sep 2006 on the etch |
| 15:15.47 | d1b | balzac5000: ...... 2006? |
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| 15:15.55 | abrotman | balzac5000: he may have meant the package version |
| 15:15.55 | d1b | you *may* want to upgrade that |
| 15:15.56 | Sneex | abrotman: Debian Etch and and Unbuntu :P |
| 15:16.04 | d1b | !ubuntu |
| 15:16.05 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 15:16.21 | balzac5000 | dlb: That appears to be the latest, so says aptitude |
| 15:16.25 | Manoj | Hmm, I have "openssh-server 1:5.1p1-5", so that should be fine |
| 15:16.27 | d1b | balzac5000: ok. |
| 15:16.37 | d1b | no idea then. |
| 15:16.38 | abrotman | d1b: that is the correct version in etch |
| 15:16.41 | balzac5000 | dlb_ scary date, I admit |
| 15:16.42 | Sneex | one set of command on Ubuntu won't work on Debian because Etch = 1.3 and Ubuntu = 1.4 -- but thats not the issue; I guess I need an IPtables channel LOL |
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| 15:16.49 | d1b | abrotman: i was scared by the date :) |
| 15:16.53 | abrotman | Sneex: #netfilter |
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| 15:17.00 | Sneex | cool beans |
| 15:17.02 | Sneex | :) |
| 15:17.03 | abrotman | d1b: as long as fixes are backported, shouldn't matter |
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| 15:17.17 | balzac5000 | I've ripped out OpenSSH on the etch box and reinstalled - no difference |
| 15:17.19 | d1b | abrotman: i didn't say otherwise :) |
| 15:17.31 | abrotman | well .. you did "<d1b> you *may* want to upgrade that" |
| 15:17.57 | d1b | abrotman: yes because i thought it was *from* 2006 as in the package as in *ssl* fun. |
| 15:18.09 | Manoj | balzac5000: Well, only thing I can think of to try is to reconfigure sshd on olympic; ahd see if it regenerates the keys |
| 15:18.31 | d1b | balzac5000: check the logs and turn u pthe logging to verbose on openssh-server i guess. |
| 15:18.33 | balzac5000 | Manoj: I was thinking about wholesale reinstallation of OpenSSH |
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| 15:19.07 | Manoj | balzac5000: That ought to work too, though if we can figr out what is going wrong, it ought not tobe required |
| 15:19.14 | balzac5000 | I'm stumped but the "no key of type 2" |
| 15:19.22 | balzac5000 | and the missing whitespace. |
| 15:20.16 | balzac5000 | I found a post that says ssh-keygen can "convert" the key on Olympic to "OpenSSH format" but I would think this would have been an issue before now as I SCP into this box daily |
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| 15:20.48 | balzac5000 | (It's a central log and backup server, otherwise I wouldn't hesitate to rip out SSH) |
| 15:20.49 | themill | BlackDesign: what version of the "libssl0.9.8" package is on the etch box? |
| 15:20.59 | themill | err.... balzac5000^^ |
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| 15:21.28 | balzac5000 | themill: Yes, themill^^? |
| 15:21.32 | BlackDesign | themill: np ;) |
| 15:21.41 | justin | balzac5000: ssh-keygen -R olympic.xxx.com ? |
| 15:21.48 | themill | balzac5000: what version of the "libssl0.9.8" package is on the etch box? |
| 15:21.54 | d1b | themill: is it possible that he is being blocked by a weak ssh key ?(useblacklistkeys) |
| 15:22.03 | balzac5000 | Ah that was for me. Stand by |
| 15:22.24 | themill | d1b: possible -- I can't remember what the error message for that was. |
| 15:22.32 | balzac5000 | themill: 0.9.8c-4etch9 |
| 15:22.53 | d1b | i haven't ever seen the error for it, i think this probably has to do with the sshd keys / config. |
| 15:22.56 | themill | that's new enough then. no worries there. |
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| 15:23.08 | justin | balzac5000: /msg dpkg debug sshd |
| 15:23.27 | balzac5000 | justin: your regen command looks like it's worth trying |
| 15:23.34 | ronr | hi, what kernel module should I add to be able to use virtual ethernet devices like eth0:0, eth0:1 etc.? |
| 15:23.39 | justin | that's not a 'regen' command |
| 15:23.44 | d1b | none. ronr . |
| 15:23.51 | d1b | as far as i know. |
| 15:24.10 | balzac5000 | justin: "ssh-keygen -R " won't regenerate keys? |
| 15:24.13 | ronr | hmm... ok, thanks, I'll try and figure out why it's not working than |
| 15:24.13 | d1b | just ifconfig eth0:1 10.200.1.12/16 |
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| 15:24.18 | justin | is that what the man page says it does? |
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| 15:25.06 | balzac5000 | justin: Ah so, it will remove the keys - sorry. Yeah I already modified and then totally deleted the known_hosts file on the etch box |
| 15:25.44 | balzac5000 | And what's weird is SSH - no problem. SCP and ka-BOOM |
| 15:25.52 | balzac5000 | Which is really curious |
| 15:26.01 | d1b | balzac5000: do you have a particular shell setup? |
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| 15:26.21 | balzac5000 | dlb: just bash |
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| 15:26.54 | justin | balzac5000: really, /msg dpkg debug sshd |
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| 15:28.02 | balzac5000 | justin: Man, not enough coffee (too much?) - I thought you were sending a debhelper command |
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| 15:28.50 | justin | if you are getting 'lost connection' the server is probably disconnecting you for some reason |
| 15:29.09 | batphone | would you guys recommend using amd64 debian install on xeon 5130's? |
| 15:29.21 | batphone | are there any gotchas? this is for production machines, db/www servers |
| 15:29.27 | batphone | tomcat, postgres |
| 15:29.36 | justin | balzac5000: how much ram they have? |
| 15:29.39 | batphone | are there any benefits to using the 64bit stuff? |
| 15:29.45 | batphone | 4 gigs justin |
| 15:29.52 | balzac5000 | justin: Well, I'm just not getting it. What are you proposing with "/msg dpkg debug sshd"? dpkg doesn't have a debug parameter - that I can find |
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| 15:30.04 | justin | !+debug sshd |
| 15:30.04 | dpkg | To debug sshd (server), run this as root on the server: "/usr/sbin/sshd -d -p 2222". Then use "ssh -p 2222 username@servername" on the client. |
| 15:30.16 | balzac5000 | AH! |
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| 15:30.26 | d1b | balzac5000: also throw on -vvv |
| 15:30.42 | d1b | or so to the ssh from the client . |
| 15:30.57 | justin | he already has that, needs the server side log |
| 15:31.05 | lupine_85 | batphone: should work fine |
| 15:31.05 | balzac5000 | justin: memory on etch 1GB memory on lenny box is 768MB |
| 15:31.11 | batphone | lupine_85: thanks |
| 15:31.22 | justin | balzac5000: er, meant to ask batphone that heh |
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| 15:31.39 | balzac5000 | diggit |
| 15:31.51 | batphone | what do you think justin? |
| 15:31.57 | batphone | is it worth going 64bit? |
| 15:32.02 | justin | balzac5000: probably couldn't hurt |
| 15:32.05 | batphone | dual proc, dual core |
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| 15:32.51 | batphone | 2Ghz |
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| 15:32.51 | batphone | and just to be clear, this is the AMD64 iso download |
| 15:32.52 | justin | yeah |
| 15:32.52 | lupine_85 | yeah, go for it |
| 15:33.03 | lupine_85 | our entire hosting organisation is amd64 |
| 15:33.05 | batphone | sweet |
| 15:33.13 | lupine_85 | we have a few xeons hanging around |
| 15:33.17 | batphone | and for xen? |
| 15:33.23 | batphone | does xen work well on adm64? |
| 15:33.27 | lupine_85 | we don't use Xen - we're a KVM shop |
| 15:33.39 | lupine_85 | in our experience, Xen isn't worth the hassle |
| 15:33.44 | petemc | what hassle? |
| 15:33.56 | lupine_85 | the manangement interface and the kernels, mostly |
| 15:34.02 | balzac5000 | justin: very happy login with SSHD - is there a similar debug routine with SCP? |
| 15:34.14 | petemc | management interface? text files and python.. |
| 15:34.14 | batphone | i would think KVM would be more of a hassle |
| 15:34.38 | lupine_85 | *shrug* we were migrating from UML, to be fair, so we had a pre-existing architecture we wanted it to fit into |
| 15:34.44 | Crypticfortune | what ordinarily creates /dev/net/tun? recently i upgraded a few things to /testing, and now /dev/net is gone (I suspect udev might be the culprit, but I don't know why udev would _stop_ making /dev/net/tun...) |
| 15:34.56 | lupine_85 | the Xen python layer just wasn't well-suited to fit into that, but KVM was basically an inline replacement |
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| 15:35.10 | balzac5000 | justin: I always thought SCP and SSH were all children of SSHD - if one works, then the other should |
| 15:35.18 | themill | balzac5000: what does "ssh olympic.xxx.com true" output? (anything?) |
| 15:36.05 | mastro | sorry guys i've debian squeeze and I've a problem setting up VPN with nm-applet |
| 15:36.06 | themill | Crypticfortune: "modprobe tun" should be enough |
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| 15:36.25 | lupine_85 | host kernels were the main deal-breaker, though, I think |
| 15:36.25 | mastro | I set up the VPN but it almost always does nothing when i click on the vpn... |
| 15:36.31 | abrotman | Crypticfortune: usually something like a VPN .. it may have changed locations on you |
| 15:36.35 | lupine_85 | they were stuck on .18 for /so/ long.... are they still? |
| 15:36.41 | balzac5000 | themill: Well, I run ssh on this box on port 40, but "ssh -p40 olympic.xxx.com true" asks to accept olympic's key and then logs right in |
| 15:36.45 | abrotman | Crypticfortune: sometimes also for vm/emu software too |
| 15:36.55 | balzac5000 | BUT WAIT |
| 15:37.06 | balzac5000 | now it seems that SCP on the etch box WORKS NOW! |
| 15:37.18 | balzac5000 | (man that's a log of debug info) |
| 15:37.24 | Crypticfortune | themill: "modprobe tun" appears to succeed, but i have no "tun" anywhere under /dev =( |
| 15:37.39 | themill | Crypticfortune: ahh... yay. |
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| 15:37.48 | balzac5000 | themill: Many Karma points for you++ |
| 15:38.15 | themill | balzac5000: hehe... I think that was probably dumb luck that helped there... |
| 15:38.19 | Crypticfortune | abrotman: yup. I noticed it was gone because I noticed my openvpn was failing complaining that it couldn't allocate a tap interface.. |
| 15:38.31 | balzac5000 | Hey, people pay big money for that... =8^) |
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| 15:39.15 | batphone | so we have a vote for 64bit port on these xeons. |
| 15:39.16 | balzac5000 | And the man page for SSH is pretty mute on what the "true" parameter does. |
| 15:39.23 | batphone | IRC says yes ;D |
| 15:39.26 | batphone | i say yes. |
| 15:39.31 | lupine_85 | there's no real reason to run i386 on 64-bit hardware any more |
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| 15:39.39 | lupine_85 | we even have native flash these days |
| 15:39.42 | themill | balzac5000: that's just a command to execute at the other end. I was just curious if your shell login was clean or not. |
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| 15:40.13 | balzac5000 | themill: Well, it appears that it was pretty soiled. |
| 15:40.35 | abrotman | Crypticfortune: you're lokoing with find /dev/ -name *tun* ? |
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| 15:41.09 | balzac5000 | I'm grateful for everyone's help! |
| 15:41.33 | Crypticfortune | abrotman: "find /dev | grep tun" actually, but same, yes. i have a "/dev/vttuner" but that's it |
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| 15:42.17 | abrotman | Crypticfortune: nice ... maybe check error logs for something pertaining to that module? |
| 15:43.15 | Crypticfortune | abrotman: nope...nothing in dmesg/messages/syslog, and lsmod shows tun is loaded |
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| 15:44.58 | astartoth | hi all |
| 15:45.10 | astartoth | anyone using powernowd on a laptop? |
| 15:45.16 | abrotman | you? |
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| 15:45.43 | astartoth | yep. and I have a small problem with it. |
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| 15:45.59 | abrotman | Please, sit down and tell us about your problem... |
| 15:46.07 | astartoth | lolll ok |
| 15:46.31 | astartoth | the thing is: in order to use powernowd one must mount sysfs first. |
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| 15:47.15 | astartoth | so, I chose what governor to use by loading it in /etc/modules and by defining it in /etc/sysfs.conf |
| 15:47.20 | astartoth | here are the lines |
| 15:47.28 | astartoth | devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor = conservative |
| 15:47.30 | astartoth | devices/system/cpu/cpu1/cpufreq/scaling_governor = conservative |
| 15:48.00 | astartoth | but.. when powernowd starts, it resets the syfs.conf values to use the cpufreq_userspace governor. |
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| 15:49.07 | astartoth | i have to manually rerun sysfsutils (invoke-rc.d sysfsutils restart) to use the right governor again (conservative). I doesn't seem clean. I want to use the right governor on boot |
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| 15:49.42 | mastro | problem with the nm-applet connecting to VPN.. when I click to connect on VPN nothing happen and I see this in the terminal where I launched nm-applet: http://pastebin.com/m76861662 |
| 15:50.04 | gigo | I was trying to do this. ln -s /dev/tty /dev/tty.c; so that I can input code directly into the console to try out small codes without creating files. |
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| 15:50.33 | gigo | so I do gcc /dev/tty.c but it creates an a.out file. Is there a way to suppress creation of a.out file and execute it directly, I mean by storing a.out in some sort of buffer or something? is it possible? |
| 15:50.47 | astartoth | the question would be: how do I get powernowd to use the right governor without any further hassle? |
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| 15:52.20 | Crypticfortune | gigo: considering how linux loads programs, I think it would be an exercise in futility to try to get it to run arbitrary ELF files from a pipe. (maybe something already exists and i'm wrong, but it seems very non-trivial to me) |
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| 15:53.01 | Crypticfortune | gigo: what i'm saying is you probably need to make a file somewhere. |
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| 15:54.46 | gigo | Crypticfortune, yes, that's okay. I am asking whether it is possible at all or not just for my knowledge. I'm curious about it. |
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| 16:02.41 | saulus | I need a script that calculates the new filename of files of the form: -000.pbm to -018.pbm. It should add some number. So I want every -018.pbm be called 000.pbm ... and every -000.pbm be called 018.pbm. Any hints? |
| 16:02.58 | saulus | I think awk may help but I dont know how to extract the numer of the filename |
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| 16:04.31 | Crypticfortune | gigo: with gcc, I suspect not (gcc calls ld on the generate program, so pipes won't cut it). given a magic compiler that could output to a pipe, maybe in the most abstract sense of the word it would be possible, but user programs are generally prohibitted from writing to their program memory (iirc), so you could either disable that and load the ELF yourself, or do some very sneaky wrapping. |
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| 16:06.03 | mschiff | what is the best way to detect the current debian arch? |
| 16:07.08 | Crypticfortune | mschiff: uname -m? |
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| 16:07.48 | mschiff | Crypticfortune: no thats the kernel, I mean the system, and I just found "dpkg --print-archotecture" |
| 16:08.04 | mschiff | Crypticfortune: but thanks anyway! |
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| 16:08.47 | azeem | w33 |
| 16:08.48 | azeem | gah |
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| 16:09.10 | HazardX | is there anyway to get aptitude to install packages and do everything it WOULD have done, *EXCEPT* for start/stop/restart services? |
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| 16:11.40 | beardy | HazardX: Not that I know, other than repackage the package and edit the scripts. But perhaps someone else knows better. |
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| 16:12.19 | gigo | Crypticfortune, why can't gcc output to a pipe. I can do something like this: gcc /dev/stdin -o /dev/stdout |
| 16:12.24 | gigo | oops |
| 16:12.30 | HazardX | I find it hard to beleive that its not possible considering its really hard to manipulate chrooted NFS roots locally if I can't keep the chrooted stuff from start/stopping services and screwing with the hosts :/ |
| 16:12.43 | gigo | it has to be gcc /dev/stdin.c -o /dev/stdout (where /dev/stdin.c is a soft link to /dev/stdin) |
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| 16:14.08 | Crypticfortune | gigo: and that worked for you? it failed for me. well, if that did indeed work, then you're half way there...but the latter half is really the hard part i think. |
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| 16:15.06 | iluminator101 | i am looking for wcid wifi template for wpa + aes on peap |
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| 16:15.35 | iluminator101 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:16.13 | liable | does wicd advertise to support that? |
| 16:16.20 | lyakh | sorry for a no-brainer, why am I getting unauthenticated packages with squeeze (debootstrapped from etch)? do I have to apt-key add anything? apt-key list shows only some lenny keys |
| 16:16.33 | liable | its a bug |
| 16:16.40 | HazardX | *sigh* time to go find all the extra instances of cron that are now running. |
| 16:16.42 | liable | still |
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| 16:16.55 | lyakh | liable: was it for me? |
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| 16:17.00 | liable | lyakh: aye |
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| 16:17.09 | lyakh | liable: oh, ok:-( thanks |
| 16:17.33 | gigo | Crypticfortune, yes, it worked for me. I tested it like thsi gcc /dev/stdin.c -o /dev/stdout | cat > b.out; chmod a+x b.out; ./b.out |
| 16:18.02 | iluminator101 | liable: in open source bugs have tendencies to be fixed in real time b/z so many smart people looking at the same problem at the same time, what we essential have here is a software company right here in front of my screen |
| 16:18.21 | liable | iluminator101: i'm not sure i agree |
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| 16:19.33 | justin | iluminator101: dunno anything about wicd, but network-manager sets up wpa+aes+peap in 2 clicks |
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| 16:20.11 | justin | network-manager actually has the easiest setup across windows(xp,vista,7) and mac OS for setting up WPA enterprise |
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| 16:22.32 | iluminator101 | justin:hmmm.....i got try one more thing when i am back at the school to see this goes, if not i will use network manager |
| 16:23.17 | iluminator101 | i used to use network manager on wifi, but it used to drop the signal on and off, is that all fixed now |
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| 16:25.29 | isonow | can anyone tell me how can i uncompress an iso? i do not want to mount it, i just need to uncompress the iso image, edit some text files and then put the iso back together |
| 16:26.14 | icebrain | justin: wicd is just as easy as nm, if not more, imo |
| 16:26.35 | icebrain | besides, is way less buggy |
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| 16:26.55 | iluminator101 | icebrain: i agree i second that |
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| 16:27.50 | [Elvis] | hej guys, how can I see what is mounted on my system? |
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| 16:27.56 | ultralazer | df |
| 16:27.58 | ultralazer | man df |
| 16:28.08 | cahoot | mount |
| 16:28.14 | ultralazer | same options as ls with df |
| 16:28.59 | abrotman | mount |
| 16:29.27 | Maulkin | cat /etc/mtab |
| 16:29.53 | ultralazer | df | espeak |
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| 16:34.44 | abrotman | Maulkin: what if they used mount with -n? |
| 16:34.53 | abrotman | would it show up wth 'mount' either? |
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| 16:39.00 | gigo | if I have an executable ELF file, say, a.out with the x permission not set, is there any way to execute it? |
| 16:39.12 | gigo | any other program that can load it and execute it? |
| 16:39.19 | abrotman | sh a.out ? |
| 16:39.34 | abrotman | you could probably write liek a C wrapper to load/execute it |
| 16:40.39 | xittum | is it possible to build jre-6u16-linux-i586.bin on lenny? i used to do it with fakeroot make-jpkg but now the only output i get now is "No matching plugin was found" :-/ ...dpkg seems to be no help either... |
| 16:41.17 | xittum | need it for homebanking but the one in the repo (non-free) wont work... need to build i think |
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| 16:43.55 | gigo | abrotman, sh a.out will give error for ELF file. |
| 16:44.02 | themill | xittum: installing "sun-java6-plugin" should be all you need to do. (well, also /msg dpkg update-java-alternatives) |
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| 16:45.41 | xittum | themill: it makes a freeze before login with a "nice" big sun logo on the scren... i did try all the typical cookie stuff and so on... ahh well |
| 16:45.50 | xittum | alternatives... |
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| 16:49.57 | grazymax | hi all |
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| 16:52.22 | Tigryss | hi |
| 16:52.43 | Tigryss | can someone help me? |
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| 16:53.28 | Tigryss | i compile a custom kernel but i can't find a sysvshm support |
| 16:53.34 | Tigryss | :( |
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| 16:55.04 | Tigryss | ? |
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| 16:56.47 | liable | make config has a search funtion, just hit / |
| 16:56.55 | themill | xittum: I've never seen a sun logo from the java plugin... that's a bit weird |
| 16:56.57 | liable | erm, menuconfig |
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| 16:57.36 | silidan1 | hi, im in search for a USB 2.0 wireless adapter that will definitley work with linux (debian sid in my case) for a maximum of 30 Euro, preferably one that i can put on a table and connect to pc via a cable, 1-2 m long, any suggestions? |
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| 16:57.52 | HazardX | wants to murder dpkg. |
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| 16:58.46 | HazardX | The time that it wanted to remove my kernel (to satisfy dependencies) was easier to resolve than this! |
| 16:58.55 | xittum | themill: got it working!.. i think the update alternatives did it... thanks! |
| 16:59.20 | abrotman | HazardX: you mean the "don't autostart the daemon" thing ? |
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| 16:59.43 | themill | xittum: excellent |
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| 17:00.04 | HazardX | abrotman, yea, that and now that I've mangled it to install everything (I think) its now hell-bent on restarting hal/dbus to satisfy each other, which...obviously...will never succeed. |
| 17:00.35 | abrotman | HazardX: why won't that succeed ? |
| 17:00.43 | Tigryss | thx liable |
| 17:00.43 | HazardX | because its chrooted |
| 17:00.48 | abrotman | oh jeez |
| 17:00.55 | HazardX | the host system already has its OWN hal & dbus. |
| 17:00.59 | abrotman | thinks someone has done this intentionally |
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| 17:01.26 | HazardX | its a NFS root for a netbootable machine |
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| 17:02.06 | HazardX | I see no reason why I can't install/manage packages from the local system (where its faster, and won't run the risk of losing root when updating certian software packages) |
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| 17:02.48 | HazardX | IN fact, its the ONLY way I can find to update udev (since updating Udev while netbooted loses root and instantly leaves dpkg very very lost) |
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| 17:03.35 | themill | HazardX: a chroot normally uses policy-rc.d to prevent service starts/restarts |
| 17:03.39 | dutchie | is it sane to work on packages for debian using pbuilder in ubuntu? |
| 17:04.20 | HazardX | themill, will that do anything about failing init.d scripts while installing packages from dpkg? |
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| 17:04.45 | themill | HazardX: policy-rc.d prevents service starts/restarts |
| 17:05.17 | HazardX | which is where ? |
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| 17:06.44 | themill | HazardX: see /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.policy-rc.d.gz |
| 17:06.58 | HazardX | okie, thanks, later |
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| 17:09.19 | themill | HazardX: if/when you get this sort of stuff working, you might like to document it somewhere. There have recently been a few discussions on the debian-devel mailing list about whether it's worthwhile keeping the complexity of allowing /usr to be on a separate partition. |
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| 17:09.58 | jhutchins_lt | themill: Huh? How is it possible to prevent a directory from being a seperately mounted partition? |
| 17:10.07 | jhutchins_lt | themill: Make it fail the boot process or something? |
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| 17:10.32 | themill | HazardX: When it's suggested that this option be dropped, there are many howls about how this can't possibly be done because people need to be able to share /usr by nfs etc, but when asked "how do you actually do this with apt/dpkg anyway", no-one has ever yet described how this can actually be done |
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| 17:11.13 | cirwin | there does not seem to be a package "svn" insqueeze, how can I install SVN? |
| 17:11.22 | macrobat | subversion |
| 17:11.30 | cirwin | d'oh |
| 17:11.34 | macrobat | hehe |
| 17:11.48 | cirwin | Package svn is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 17:11.48 | cirwin | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 17:11.48 | cirwin | is only available from another source |
| 17:12.00 | cirwin | could that error message be improved to point idiots like me in the right direction? |
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| 17:12.20 | px3tado_ | hello |
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| 17:12.40 | Manoj | package subversion might be what that should refer to |
| 17:12.46 | silidan1 | cirwin: svn is in a package called subversion... |
| 17:12.47 | macrobat | look for the subversion and subversion-tools pkgs |
| 17:12.49 | Titan8990 | cirwin, apt-cache search svn returns subversion as a result... |
| 17:12.53 | cirwin | not for me |
| 17:12.55 | cirwin | or |
| 17:12.56 | cirwin | ah |
| 17:13.01 | cirwin | i just did show |
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| 17:13.09 | cirwin | has no apt-foo |
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| 17:13.39 | macrobat | make yourself some nice apt aliases |
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| 17:14.51 | themill | jhutchins_lt: see e.g. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/09/msg00002.html and http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/06/msg00004.html amongst other threads that I can't find atm in the last 6 months or so. |
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| 17:15.32 | jhutchins_lt | themill: Thanks. |
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| 17:17.17 | jhutchins_lt | One acronym in argument of the issue: ltsp. |
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| 17:19.24 | jhutchins_lt | themill: Excellent links btw, thanks again. |
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| 17:20.20 | jhutchins_lt | ltsp works because the filesystem is already assembled when the system boots. |
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| 17:21.31 | themill | jhutchins_lt: the discussions go around in circles because no-one can actually describe how it's currently possible to use debian with /usr on nfs... "it's something that we should of course support" doesn't really cut it as a technical argument and many currently suspect that apt can't sensibly do it already. Keeping /, /etc and /usr in sync in such a setup and restarting the daemons on the *remote* machine when upgraded are not catered for in apt |
| 17:21.32 | themill | at all. |
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| 17:27.11 | teratoma | how do i send 'menu key' on my keyboard ? |
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| 17:28.18 | LtL | teratoma: alt+f1 is that what you mean? |
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| 17:31.21 | johndoe | which program should i use to server as ssh server? |
| 17:31.29 | jeff_hann | openssh |
| 17:31.36 | johndoe | openssh-server ? |
| 17:31.41 | johndoe | as there is more than one |
| 17:31.44 | jeff_hann | no, openssh |
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| 17:33.03 | themill | judd depends openssh |
| 17:33.54 | themill | judd depends ssh |
| 17:33.54 | judd | themill: ssh -- Depends: openssh-client, openssh-server |
| 17:33.57 | themill | stupid bot |
| 17:34.02 | johndoe | thanks |
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| 17:38.39 | cr3rzemjest | i've got latest debian stable KDE installed (3.5.10). How do I install kde 4.3? remove all kde stuff, download binaries/source code(dunno what it is) from official website and compile/install manually? |
| 17:38.46 | jrib | is there anything similar to ubuntu's ppa or arch's aur for debian? i.e. some central location for user's to share packages? |
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| 17:39.15 | cr3rzemjest | because, i don't want to change repo urls and mess up my stuff by doing it with sid repos |
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| 17:39.51 | soulchild | Is there a way to automaticlly activate or run xrandr when an external monitor is pluged to vga port ? (without xorg.conf) |
| 17:40.34 | wildc4rd | evening all |
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| 17:41.29 | jrib | soulchild: no idea, but maybe you can write a udev rule? |
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| 17:42.11 | soulchild | jrib: hmm,.. where are the scripts? in /etc/udev/rules.d ? |
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| 17:42.56 | Scurz- | hi |
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| 17:43.57 | Scurz- | I have a problem with wireless, I set 11mb/s for the rate but if the rate is still at 300 ko/s for any file, it doesn't up |
| 17:44.17 | Scurz- | -if |
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| 17:45.45 | dark | i need help how i can insert my own alias in debian |
| 17:45.54 | dark | i only have .bashrc and .profile |
| 17:46.21 | jrib | soulchild: the best documentation I know for them is a document called "writing udev rules", should be first hit on google. I can't say I know much about them from personal experience though, just trying to give you something to look at |
| 17:46.38 | \amethyst | dark: add it to .bashrc |
| 17:47.07 | dark | i just add it but it doesnt work |
| 17:47.19 | \amethyst | dark: you have to start a new copy of bash |
| 17:47.34 | \amethyst | dark: or for existing instances, type the alias in |
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| 17:47.49 | joltcan | dark: source ~/.bashrc |
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| 17:48.06 | joltcan | dark: I even have an alias for that |
| 17:48.48 | \amethyst | dark: what joltcan says will work too (it re-executes your bashrc in the current shell) |
| 17:49.14 | soulchild | why isn't there a 2.6.31 kernel for sid yet, although ubuntu has it, since ubuntu is build from unstable? |
| 17:49.48 | Trewas | soulchild: not everything in ubuntu comes from debian, kernel is one of those things |
| 17:49.50 | \amethyst | soulchild: ubuntu does some work themselves; also, 2.6.31 is in sid according to p.d.o |
| 17:50.12 | \amethyst | soulchild: oh |
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| 17:50.34 | skysong | anybody having very very slow speed when burning dvds in debian? |
| 17:51.00 | \amethyst | soulchild: I see, it's still entering the archive... the dependency package is there but the actual images packages haven't migrated yet |
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| 17:52.37 | jrib | is there anything similar to ubuntu's ppa or arch's aur for debian? i.e. some central location for user's to share packages? |
| 17:52.37 | soulchild | i see,... thanks for the info |
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| 17:52.59 | soulchild | jrib: that would be great |
| 17:53.25 | engla | Hi. How can I rebuild pygobject against python2.6? I've had enough of waiting for the transition, so I thought I could try out myself |
| 17:53.30 | abrotman | jrib: google |
| 17:53.35 | jrib | abrotman: meh |
| 17:53.51 | abrotman | jrib: would you really want to install packages from joe random on your system? |
| 17:54.07 | jrib | abrotman: yes, when I can read the changes easily |
| 17:54.21 | abrotman | can make a changelog that says lots of things ... |
| 17:54.33 | jrib | abrotman: I can read the debian/ directory |
| 17:55.02 | abrotman | there used to be apt-get.org .. but it's pretty dead at this point |
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| 17:55.27 | abrotman | i really wouldn't want to install packages created by random folk |
| 17:55.57 | soulchild | abrotman: but to have the choice would be great, people like zou who don|t trust are still free not to use them |
| 17:56.07 | Titan8990 | i would guess ubuntu and arch have those types of things to stay bleeding edge |
| 17:56.12 | abrotman | soulchild: this is why google exists |
| 17:56.21 | abrotman | Titan8990: or don't care about security/stability |
| 17:56.21 | pickcoder | abrotman: it adds excitement |
| 17:56.24 | Titan8990 | something not needed in debian (because we don't care about bleeding edge most of the time) |
| 17:56.24 | soulchild | a central place would be better |
| 17:56.32 | abrotman | soulchild: create one |
| 17:56.35 | Titan8990 | abrotman, that too |
| 17:57.00 | soulchild | abrotman: do you know, that you are not very helpful with your answers ? |
| 17:57.18 | abrotman | soulchild: if you want it, create it .. you're not helping either |
| 17:57.32 | Titan8990 | soulchild, do you know you want to do something that doesn't make much since to us as debian users? |
| 17:57.34 | abrotman | i pointed him at apt-get.org .. that was the place for getting unofficial packages many moons ago |
| 17:57.41 | jrib | arch can do it because they just share a single text file and build from source and ubuntu has shuttleworth's money :) But maybe hosting just the debian-specific stuff and letting people build the packages could work on debian too (thinking bandwidth wise) |
| 17:57.53 | soulchild | abrotman: I said it would be great, i didn't ask for it,.. it was jrib |
| 17:58.04 | abrotman | it really wouldn't be great .. it's actually a horrible idea |
| 17:58.19 | Titan8990 | ^ +1 |
| 17:58.24 | themill | engla: It looks like that package at least ready to go already. Installing python2.6 from experimental and then just recompile the pygobject source package should be enough. /msg dpkg experimental ; /msg dpkg package recompile. |
| 17:58.49 | soulchild | jrib: arch's wiki and AUR is a great thing, would be nice to have something similar in debian |
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| 17:59.11 | abrotman | soulchild: think of it this way ... "Hi, I installed Lenny, but I wanted X from JoeCool, so I installed his packages, and JackCool had nvidia packagse which I'm using, and JohnCool had a nifty kernel for gaming .. Now my mouse doesn't work, HALP!!!" |
| 17:59.31 | jrib | soulchild: but it is true that there needs to be some sort of quality control or voting type system because some of the packages on aur are horrible. I guess this is abrotman's main concern |
| 17:59.43 | abrotman | jrib: /msg dpkg mentors |
| 17:59.51 | abrotman | jrib: but those end up in debian officially |
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| 18:00.09 | themill | soulchild: there's already enough crappy packages out there from unofficial sources (dotdeb comes to mind) and every time we see packages from them, the problems are always solved by ripping them out and going back to debian packages. |
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| 18:00.23 | soulchild | jrib: I think this would be used by experineced users anyway,... however I am happy with sid |
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| 18:00.29 | engla | themill: thank you. I found PYVERS in debian/rules, I will try to force it to 2.6 2.5 |
| 18:00.56 | jrib | abrotman: thanks for the info |
| 18:01.10 | jrib | soulchild: you're running pure sid? |
| 18:01.12 | themill | soulchild: experience shows that it's more likely to be used by inexperienced users, actually. |
| 18:01.16 | soulchild | jrib: yes |
| 18:01.19 | engla | themill: do you mean that it's not far away for python2.6 to enter unstable? |
| 18:01.21 | soulchild | with some experimental stuff |
| 18:01.53 | soulchild | themill: if thats true, maybe you and abrotman are right |
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| 18:02.55 | Snapser | hmm should I compile iptables support as built-in or module? |
| 18:02.58 | abrotman | soulchild: if you need an alteration to a package to include functionality it doesn't have, you're probably better off learning to do it yourself anyways |
| 18:03.01 | themill | engla: RSN... promise. (ha!) See for current status of known problems: http://tiny.pl/hqwjz but there are a few other pieces still waiting for things to be fixed. There are currently very large lenny->squeeze issues for python-central, for example, which are made a lot worse by py2.6 and probably need to be sorted out first. |
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| 18:03.51 | pav5088 | I'm playing with Cyrus on Squeeze and strange things are happening for me with cyradm. If I do a "lm" from an admin account I only see INBOX instead of all mailboxes. The guys from #cyrus don't seem to know what's going on even after looking at my imapd.conf. |
| 18:04.00 | abrotman | Snapser: why are you compiling a kernel at all? |
| 18:04.11 | pav5088 | I'm currently installing another virtual machine to try to work out what's going on. |
| 18:04.15 | abrotman | pav5088: a cyrus admin account ? |
| 18:04.17 | pav5088 | Anyone else have similar issues? |
| 18:04.19 | soulchild | pav5088: you mean "ls" ? |
| 18:04.28 | abrotman | soulchild: no, 'lm' .. listmailboxes |
| 18:04.34 | soulchild | pav5088: ahh right,... |
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| 18:04.56 | pav5088 | abrotman, you can specify an admin account by editing the "admins" option. |
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| 18:05.03 | Snapser | abrotman: Well⦠the kernel I was provided with didn't have iptables |
| 18:05.07 | Snapser | support |
| 18:05.12 | abrotman | Snapser: in Debian? yes it did |
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| 18:05.27 | abrotman | pav5088: yes .. just making sure you didn't mean 'root' vs like 'cyradm' |
| 18:05.33 | Snapser | renting a VPS, and it didn't :( |
| 18:05.34 | abrotman | or 'cyrus' .. whatever it defaults to |
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| 18:05.43 | abrotman | Snapser: you probably want to leave that kernel there |
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| 18:06.05 | Snapser | I downloaded the headers for it, copied the config from .boot, ... |
| 18:06.07 | pav5088 | abrotman, no... I'm actually using an ldap account... |
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| 18:06.16 | pav5088 | (ie. non-local_ |
| 18:06.51 | pav5088 | ...which apparently shouldn't make any difference... if I'm authed it should just work. |
| 18:07.39 | pav5088 | (at least according to the #cyrus guys I talked to) |
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| 18:08.11 | pav5088 | abrotman, are you using Cyrus under squeeze/sid? |
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| 18:09.10 | abrotman | nope .. but i am using cyrus |
| 18:10.00 | pav5088 | The same version of Cyrus as Lenny is in Squeeze/Sid |
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| 18:10.44 | abrotman | pav5088: yes, my system hasn't gone from etch yet (probably in a few weekends) |
| 18:11.16 | abrotman | because IIRC, i have to go from cyrus2.1 to 2.2 and then up to lenny |
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| 18:12.03 | engla | themill: pyversions does not automatically pick up 2.6, so I'm forcing it |
| 18:12.33 | themill | engla: do you have python-all-dev from experimental too? |
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| 18:13.04 | engla | probably not then |
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| 18:13.59 | Kyrterz | hi |
| 18:14.25 | Kyrterz | i'm getting this error on debian 64bit previously using 32bit without problem |
| 18:14.26 | Kyrterz | httpd: Syntax error on line 128 of /opt/lampp/etc/httpd.conf: Cannot load /opt/lampp/modules/mod_cband.so into server: /opt/lampp/modules/mod_cband.so: wron |
| 18:14.27 | Kyrterz | g ELF class: ELFCLASS64 |
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| 18:16.45 | jhutchins_lt | Kyrterz: Seems pretty straightforward, did you have a question? |
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| 18:17.34 | Kyrterz | jhutchins_lt: yea i'm getting wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 |
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| 18:17.43 | Kyrterz | previously using 32 bit debian lenny without problem |
| 18:17.53 | jhutchins_lt | 32 is not 64. |
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| 18:18.19 | themill | suspects that just using the debian packages would solve this problem |
| 18:18.36 | Kyrterz | jhutchins_lt: i'm getting the error in debian 64bit |
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| 18:18.57 | jhutchins_lt | I'm thinking that it may be a bogus error, since one would expect 64 to be correct for 64, but clearly something must be mis-coded. Simplest solution is to comment out line 128 and see what happens then. |
| 18:20.24 | \amethyst | Kyrterz: sounds like your web server is 32-bit and some of its modules are 64-bit |
| 18:20.30 | Debian-user | Is anyone here ? |
| 18:20.32 | Kyrterz | LoadModule cband_module modules/mod_cband.so |
| 18:20.35 | \amethyst | Kyrterz: you might ask whoever packaged your /opt/lampp |
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| 18:20.51 | Kyrterz | \amethyst: yea i'm package using 32bit n upgrade my libs to 64 |
| 18:21.48 | Snapser | :( "No rule to make target `missing-syscalls'. Stop." |
| 18:21.49 | \amethyst | Kyrterz: well, you'll need to upgrade your web server to a 32-bit version |
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| 18:21.56 | \amethyst | Kyrterz: err, to a 64-bit version |
| 18:22.08 | \amethyst | Kyrterz: since you can't mix 64- and 32-bit code in the same process |
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| 18:22.28 | skysong | please anyone... has anybody experienced veryyyy low speeds in burning dvds in debian lenny? ill have to install another distro to backup my data if it continues:/ |
| 18:22.38 | Kyrterz | \amethyst: okays seems xampp din't support for 64bit therefor i'll need to compile myself |
| 18:22.51 | \amethyst | Kyrterz: or use debian's packages |
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| 18:23.49 | Debian-user | What will be the kernel version for the next debian squeeze version ? |
| 18:23.57 | Debian-user | Will that support ext4 ? |
| 18:23.59 | \amethyst | Kyrterz: Debian has packages for apache2, libapache2-mod-php5, mysql, and php5-mysql |
| 18:24.07 | Kyrterz | \amethyst: ok thanks |
| 18:24.34 | Debian-user | Will debian squeeze come with kde-4 ? |
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| 18:25.06 | abrotman | yes |
| 18:25.12 | themill | dpkg: tell Kyrterz about lamp |
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| 18:26.08 | Debian-user | abrotman: Will it support ext4 ? will the kernel version be 2.6.30 ? |
| 18:26.33 | abrotman | probably .31 |
| 18:26.43 | abrotman | oh wait .. what did they say a few weeks ago |
| 18:26.46 | jorizma | considering last stable came with 2.6.26 i would imagine it supports ext4 |
| 18:27.03 | abrotman | it has ext4_dev |
| 18:27.04 | jorizma | 2.6.27 was ext4 right? |
| 18:27.06 | themill | 2.6.32 is most likely. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/10/msg00003.html |
| 18:27.24 | abrotman | ah .. i knew i had seen it somewhere :) |
| 18:27.51 | Debian-user | abrotman: 2.6.26 doesn't support ext4, i was not able to mount ext4 filesystem |
| 18:27.58 | Titan8990 | jorizma, I think it was still "experminatal" in .27, considered stable in .28 or .29 |
| 18:28.07 | Debian-user | jorizma: Probably not, |
| 18:28.19 | jorizma | I know 2. 6.27 has ext4 patches |
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| 18:28.31 | abrotman | Debian-user: it has ext4_dev .. i just said that |
| 18:28.51 | abrotman | did they fix the ext4 corruption issue yet? |
| 18:29.41 | jorizma | which one? |
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| 18:30.31 | abrotman | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=ext4+corruption&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g-m1 numerous? |
| 18:31.02 | jorizma | I've been using an ext4 volume for around 9 months, it's been working ok |
| 18:31.10 | jorizma | just my personal experiences though |
| 18:31.35 | jorizma | it's a lot faster than ext3 |
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| 18:32.24 | jorizma | put / on ext4 and /home on ext3 and you get most of the benefit and little of the risk |
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| 18:32.43 | abrotman | because nothing important lives outside of /home/ ... |
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| 18:33.19 | jorizma | just a lot of things mirrored elsewhere |
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| 18:34.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | why's everyone so keen on ext4? What's the great benefit over ext3? |
| 18:34.08 | jorizma | Its noticably faster |
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| 18:34.51 | zinx | CutMeOwnThroat: it has a bigger number |
| 18:35.02 | jorizma | Considering the disk is the single solitary slowest part of the machine, you would think you'd like to improve it's speed |
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| 18:35.16 | abrotman | always thought the modem was slower than the disk |
| 18:35.25 | jorizma | I don't have a modem. Do you use a modem? =) |
| 18:35.31 | abrotman | not right now i'm not |
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| 18:35.53 | abrotman | have i used one in the last year, yes |
| 18:36.00 | jorizma | I have 2 1Gbps ethernet ports connected to my router which is connected to an Alvarion SU which beams me 3megabit internet over the air |
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| 18:36.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | zinx, ah, I can see why that would make it most desirable |
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| 18:38.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, faster - but then xfs or reiserfs or any of those are probably just as fast |
| 18:38.11 | jorizma | what do you need a modem for anyway? I live in appalachia, but we have better options than modems here |
| 18:38.20 | dutchfish | jorizma, well, my disk is atm the limitting factor |
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| 18:39.17 | wuhdu26 | Hello everybody, I'm having trouble starting Virtualbox (it's the same for OSE, PUEL, 3.0.8, 3.0.10) on Squeeze 2.6.30-2-686 xfce. Installation went fine ((un-)installed several times today following debian wiki and virtualbox manual). When I start it from the application menu, I get kicked back to the login-screen. Advice highly appreciated :) |
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| 18:40.39 | jorizma | are your video drivers working properly? maybe virtualbox is trying to instantiate hardware acceleration |
| 18:40.54 | jorizma | also the modules could be bugged |
| 18:41.27 | wuhdu26 | proprietary nvidia drivers and hardware accel work fine |
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| 18:41.55 | dutchfish | wuhdu26, confirmed |
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| 18:42.31 | dutchfish | wuhdu26, at least on squeeze amd64 |
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| 18:42.50 | Detch | tarde |
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| 18:43.29 | Detch | alguem ai conhece o clarkconnect |
| 18:43.30 | Detch | ? |
| 18:43.33 | abrotman | !br |
| 18:43.34 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 18:43.53 | wuhdu26 | during OSE install from the repository, I can select virtualbox-ose-modules. Current install is PUEL from the virtualbox website, which configures the modules on its own. However, there were no error messages and vboxdrv loads during boot. |
| 18:44.25 | Detch | :O sorry |
| 18:44.29 | Detch | !br |
| 18:44.29 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 18:45.14 | Titan8990 | wuhdu26, return any errors if you launch it from the terminal? did you add your user to the vboxusers group? |
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| 18:46.05 | wuhdu26 | Unfortunately no errors by launching from terminal, moves straight to the login-screen. I am member of vboxusers. |
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| 18:46.11 | Pjom | I have a problem mounting my partition |
| 18:46.20 | Pjom | while checking the size with FDISK it says 200GB |
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| 18:46.34 | Pjom | when running mount /dev/hdb1 /home/share its only 11 FB |
| 18:46.36 | Pjom | 11GB |
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| 18:47.38 | Pjom | http://webchat.freenode.net/ this is what happens after the mounting |
| 18:48.57 | dutchfish | Titan8990, i have the same, no errors when started from console, however i see a lot of table-shoutdown in kernel at that very same time |
| 18:49.37 | dutchfish | Titan8990, and extreme high disk i/o |
| 18:49.55 | abrotman | Pjom: wrong URL i think |
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| 18:53.14 | asdf | hey horm |
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| 18:53.25 | dutchfish | whats that? |
| 18:53.29 | horm | hey asdf |
| 18:53.38 | asdf | GET horm: 'irc.hackerthreads.org#hackerthreads' 0B from horm waiting |
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| 18:54.08 | asdf | ouch |
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| 18:54.29 | abrotman | he's not a very smart guy |
| 18:55.18 | jrib | indeed |
| 18:55.49 | owen1 | is there a way to clean the terminal while it's being used by an application? (similar to clear command, but i can't type anything since the terminal is being used by other app). |
| 18:56.13 | patrikf | owen1: initiated by the application or by you? |
| 18:56.15 | owen1 | in mac you hit command + k. |
| 18:56.19 | beardy | owen1: Depends what you mean. ^l |
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| 18:56.29 | beardy | owen1: That is Ctrl-l |
| 18:56.29 | \amethyst | owen1: if the app provides you a way to redraw the screen (often it's ctrl-l) |
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| 18:56.57 | \amethyst | owen1: otherwise you can suspend it (ctrl-z), run 'clear', and foreground it again (fg) |
| 18:57.02 | owen1 | let's say i am tailing a log file that constantly changes. |
| 18:57.29 | owen1 | beardy: ctrl+l does'nt work |
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| 18:57.53 | beardy | owen1: Then you don't want to clear it, then you want to tail a logfile. |
| 18:58.15 | \amethyst | owen1: or if you know the terminal device for that tty, you can run clear > /dev/ttyfoo from another terminal |
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| 18:58.20 | owen1 | beardy: i am tailing it, but sometimes i want to clean it without ctrl+c |
| 18:59.03 | \amethyst | owen1: also, gnome-terminal has Terminal -> Reset and Clear in the menu |
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| 18:59.23 | owen1 | \amethyst: i use xterm |
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| 19:00.14 | \amethyst | owen1: ctrl-middle click, "Do Full Reset" |
| 19:01.06 | owen1 | \amethyst: yes! too bad it requires the mouse |
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| 19:02.18 | owen1 | can i make it as a key combo instead |
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| 19:04.28 | owen1 | \amethyst: the problem with your solution is that after the log continues it still shows me the old stuff. i want similar behaviour to 'reset' command. |
| 19:04.45 | owen1 | i don't want to see text that was there before i cleaned the terminal. |
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| 19:07.25 | \amethyst | owen1: it's possible... try |
| 19:07.32 | \amethyst | owen1: xrdb -merge <<<"*VT100.Translations: #override Meta Ctrl <Key>k: hard-reset()" |
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| 19:07.39 | \amethyst | owen1: that will bind it to ctrl-alt-k |
| 19:07.43 | tryfan | I think I just stumbled across one hell of a bug in debian installer 5.0.3 amd64 on a dell r710 sata. |
| 19:08.06 | Muli|CTGR | hey fellas, looking at trying to figure out when hourly cron jobs occur, any suggestions? |
| 19:08.13 | \amethyst | owen1: if that works, you can put the stuff inside quotes (without the quotes) into your .Xresources or .Xdefaults files for future sessions |
| 19:08.17 | tryfan | it tries to make /boot an ext2, then mounts it as vfat, then dies on security package upgrade because it can't make symllinks on a vfat fs |
| 19:08.36 | \amethyst | owen1: you probably have to start a new xterm for it to take effect |
| 19:08.44 | jorizma | hmm, monodevelop has come a long way |
| 19:08.53 | tryfan | Muli|CTGR: grep hourly /etc/crontab |
| 19:08.59 | jorizma | it'd be so nice if it wasn't C# garbage |
| 19:09.20 | Muli|CTGR | tryfan, 17 * * * * root cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly |
| 19:09.49 | owen1 | \amethyst: thank you for this, but it's not really doing what 'reset' command is doing. the previous text is showing up again. |
| 19:09.50 | Muli|CTGR | tryfan, reason why I ask, is because I have an executable bash script in /etc/cron.hourly that i'm not sure is running |
| 19:09.56 | Muli|CTGR | looks like 17min after the hour, no? |
| 19:10.04 | tryfan | Muli|CTGR: exactly |
| 19:10.51 | \amethyst | jorizma: there appears to exist monodevelop-java, monodevelop-vala, and monodevelop-boo for other languages |
| 19:10.59 | \amethyst | s/appears/appear/ |
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| 19:11.42 | jorizma | It's written in Mono, though |
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| 19:11.59 | tryfan | Muli|CTGR: put ' logger "testing" ' at the beginning and check /var/log/messages for testing |
| 19:12.13 | tryfan | Muli|CTGR: that will definitely tell you if it ran |
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| 19:12.55 | \amethyst | yes, and eclipse and netbeans are written in Java, and gcc is written in C |
| 19:13.15 | jorizma | Java and C are not patent encumbered. |
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| 19:14.35 | \amethyst | I seem to recall Eastman Kodak winning a big lawsuit against Sun five or six years ago |
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| 19:16.04 | jorizma | Sun wasnt antagonistic to open source, anyhow.. though Oracle may be |
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| 19:16.46 | abrotman | java was ... and the parts that were encumbered still are (openjdk is supposed to be okay) |
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| 19:17.23 | jorizma | Openjdk runs every java app I have, so I'm happy with it |
| 19:17.30 | xorgdead | wow I killed xorg performance by installing xscreensaver-data-extras, then tried removing it not working then disable glx in xorg.conf and tried using the vesa driver but it didn't help. anybody have ideas? |
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| 19:21.23 | xorgdead | ping |
| 19:22.00 | cali | debianation !! |
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| 19:22.43 | jelly-home | !any idea |
| 19:22.43 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a box full of herring, a little K-Y jelly, and a handful of three-legged oxen. And keep the KGB off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 19:22.44 | jelly-home | !any ideas |
| 19:22.44 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a box full of condoms, a little sauerkraut, and 5 or 6 three-legged platypuses. And keep the NSA off my back for the next few hours! |
| 19:23.07 | xorgdead | not helpful debbot and you still can't levitate. |
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| 19:23.59 | Hans_Henrik | default apache folder is /var/www right? |
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| 19:27.43 | tonsofpcs | hi all! |
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| 19:28.09 | Titan8990 | Hans_Henrik, what does DocumentRoot in your config say? |
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| 19:28.14 | tonsofpcs | Just installed a lenny system on friday, haven't logged in yet. Went to login today with username and pass that I wrote down and it will not work. Root login does not work either. Any ideas what could be wrong and/or how to fix? |
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| 19:29.22 | Titan8990 | tonsofpcs, you could chroot into it from a livecd and run: passwd root |
| 19:29.23 | Hans_Henrik | Titan8990: im not on debian atm, but i need to know if thats the default folder.. |
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| 19:29.47 | tonsofpcs | Titan8990: will the net install cd image work for this purpose? |
| 19:29.48 | Titan8990 | Hans_Henrik, with a fresh install, yes |
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| 19:30.01 | Titan8990 | tonsofpcs, no, thats not a livecd |
| 19:30.02 | tonsofpcs | sorry, this one is sid not lenny, my mistake |
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| 19:30.24 | tonsofpcs | searches his desk for the ubuntu live cd that's floating around |
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| 19:31.46 | hark | tonsofpcs: /msg dpkg ifrp |
| 19:33.05 | abrotman | tonsofpcs: you don't need a livecd or the installer |
| 19:33.09 | tonsofpcs | abrotman: hmm? |
| 19:33.32 | abrotman | tonsofpcs: hark gave you somethign to ask the bot .. you can just use your regular system to reset the password |
| 19:33.37 | tonsofpcs | cool :) |
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| 19:34.29 | tonsofpcs | except i'm running LILO because grub failed twice... |
| 19:34.44 | tonsofpcs | [don't worry, i figured it out :) ] |
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| 19:35.47 | tonsofpcs | now, for the real problem: passwd not found.... |
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| 19:37.43 | abrotman | tonsofpcs: are you sure you finished the installation ? |
| 19:37.50 | tonsofpcs | abrotman: yup |
| 19:38.00 | tonsofpcs | apparently it missed a few items.... |
| 19:38.09 | abrotman | tonsofpcs: did yu mount the target already? |
| 19:38.14 | tonsofpcs | yes |
| 19:38.33 | abrotman | so you don't have /usr/bin/passwd ? |
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| 19:39.24 | tonsofpcs | aha, /usr wasn't mounted :) |
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| 19:41.09 | jelly-home | the dangers of superfluous separate mountpoints |
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| 19:43.09 | tonsofpcs | jelly-home: eh, not a danger, just had to know that passwd was in /usr |
| 19:43.23 | tonsofpcs | now to make this thing autologin |
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| 19:43.38 | TrueDD | Howdy |
| 19:43.49 | tonsofpcs | hi |
| 19:44.22 | TrueDD | hi tonsofpcs |
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| 19:46.50 | Titan8990 | jelly-home, like this http://pastebin.com/f7e57f894 |
| 19:47.25 | tonsofpcs | good, now to figure out how to set X autologin run this stuffs again.... |
| 19:48.22 | abrotman | tonsofpcs: use gdm |
| 19:48.25 | mhymn | anyone knows if it's possible to config mouse right click to work as left click? |
| 19:48.41 | abrotman | mhymn: you mean like for a left-handed person ? |
| 19:49.30 | mhymn | abrotman: actually i want to somehow disable right click but it'd be better to make it work as left click too |
| 19:49.43 | abrotman | mhymn: so you want two left clicks ? |
| 19:49.55 | mhymn | abrotman: yeah, exactly |
| 19:50.19 | Titan8990 | buy a mouse for a MAC? |
| 19:51.03 | mhymn | i couldn't find a xfce way and i wonder if there's a xorg way perhaps |
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| 19:53.04 | abrotman | mhymn: man 4 mouse .. looks like you can map buttons |
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| 19:54.45 | ElDiabolo | I am building a debian package for my apache module. The module has a test script (accessed via http). Where could I put the test script? /usr/share/doc? |
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| 19:56.56 | mhymn | abrotman: thanks, i'll take a look at it |
| 19:57.22 | Devastator | is there a way to know if pci=assign-busses is beeing executed? |
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| 19:57.40 | abrotman | ElDiabolo: usually ends up in /usr/lib/<foopkg>/ |
| 19:57.50 | abrotman | or was that /usr/share/<foopkg>/ ? |
| 19:58.33 | ElDiabolo | abrotman: share. Looks better. |
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| 20:00.02 | ElDiabolo | abrotman: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ is web accessible, right? |
| 20:00.29 | abrotman | if it's setup |
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| 20:00.38 | abrotman | and enabled |
| 20:01.08 | decaprime | So, i'm running mysqld on lenny, everythings great. All of asudden, external connections just stopped working, nothing in my.cnf changed, the only change that I can think would affect the database was that the server was restarted, but it appears that the failure started way after that... |
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| 20:03.02 | rgr | using gnome-ala-mixer on debian, it lists heaps of stuff : a mic, a front mix, a mic boost, left and right channels for the mic, then capture also digital ... I'm completely bamboozled by what is what. Is there a visual tool which can somehow tell what all these are and which ones really is my actual mic? |
| 20:03.08 | rgr | s/ala/alsa |
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| 20:05.11 | rgr | also there are 5 checkboxes the bottom saying headphone, iec958, iec958 default pcm, and then 2 x input source. No hint at what they are and un/checking them appears to have no affect on the sliders above. Anyone here familiar with this dialog? |
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| 20:05.30 | yellowrooster | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:05.49 | abrotman | yellowrooster: how large is it? will you use it with windows/osx ? |
| 20:05.56 | rgr | depends if you want to lend the drive to others. If you do probably fat, |
| 20:06.07 | yellowrooster | abrotman: 2 GB. may sometimes use it on Windows. BUT mostly on inux |
| 20:06.09 | yellowrooster | linux |
| 20:06.16 | abrotman | probably FAT |
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| 20:06.34 | yellowrooster | abrotman: thanks. |
| 20:06.40 | yellowrooster | will FAT still work on Windows? |
| 20:07.12 | abrotman | yes |
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| 20:07.19 | yellowrooster | abrotman: thanks. |
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| 20:11.23 | ElDiabolo | rgr: I remember a tool to identify speaker channels ... |
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| 20:12.11 | rgr | Hmm and now experimenting with the mic sliders has turned off all headphone sound and sound only comes out of the main amp now. LOL. I wonder if ALSA will ever work properly :-; |
| 20:12.50 | abrotman | speaker-test ? |
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| 20:14.25 | engla | rgr: pulseaudio will handle it better for you hopefully |
| 20:14.31 | rgr | Anyone know what LFE is in the mixer? |
| 20:14.43 | ElDiabolo | abrotman: Yeah, thats what I remembered. Highly useful. |
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| 20:15.31 | rgr | engla: I used to use pulseaudio but its more the mixer issue now. No indication of what is what, Am googling now and see I'm not alone with this intel sound chip. Used to work just fine, nut need to relearn the gui each and every time I make a change. |
| 20:16.03 | Devastator | is there anybody with pcmcia experiencia? |
| 20:16.26 | abrotman | lots of people |
| 20:16.39 | Devastator | experience |
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| 20:16.55 | pistache | My talk invitation messages goes on tty1, and I use X.Org, so I don't see them. Is there a way to setup talkd so that it sends invites on all shells like wall ? |
| 20:16.56 | wuhdu26 | Titan8990, dutchfish: FYI: The virtualbox problem I presented earlier was actually caused by the video driver (as you suggested ;) ). I didn't consciously change anything and my daily work went fine, so I didn't notice. Reinstalling the driver solved the problem. Thanks anyways |
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| 20:17.24 | dutchfish | wuhdu26, ah nice to hear |
| 20:17.58 | wuhdu26 | I don't know the specifics of your amd64 problem, but better check the video driver ;) |
| 20:18.20 | dutchfish | wuhdu26, r600 radeon (open source driver) |
| 20:18.49 | dutchfish | wuhdu26, thanks i will |
| 20:18.50 | abrotman | pistache: have you tried using the xterm to ssh to your own machine so that it's a login shell ? |
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| 20:19.40 | Devastator | abrotman do you know about pcmcia? |
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| 20:19.59 | abrotman | Devastator: lots of people do .. ask your real question |
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| 20:20.17 | wuhdu26 | dutchfish: hm ok I use an antique geforce 4, so no experience with radeons. But if your configuration utility offers an opengl/glx section, check it - that's where my xserver crashed just like it did when starting vbox |
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| 20:21.37 | dutchfish | wuhdu26, opengl does work, but software render atm only |
| 20:22.21 | dutchfish | wuhdu26, thanks, i will firgure it out eventually :) |
| 20:22.26 | Devastator | abrotman i have a texas instruments cardbus controller and it need "pci=assign-busses" parameter on boot, i put it, but don't know if it's being used |
| 20:22.31 | wuhdu26 | hope so, good luck |
| 20:22.40 | dutchfish | thanks |
| 20:22.55 | Devastator | abrotman also i want to know how to discover where my pcmcia card was assigned |
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| 20:24.11 | \amethyst | does anyone know how far along nfs4 ACL support in Linux is? |
| 20:24.30 | \amethyst | kernel support, any filesystems that support them, etc? |
| 20:24.45 | HazardX | \amethyst, just a sec, lemme check something |
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| 20:26.18 | HazardX | (*grumble* I forget how to use setfacl :S) |
| 20:26.31 | \amethyst | I know setfacl, but those are posix acls |
| 20:26.41 | \amethyst | nfs4 acls are much more expressive |
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| 20:27.11 | HazardX | I wasn't aware they were different (specifically), I just remembered having acl suport work between two of my amchines |
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| 20:27.23 | \amethyst | os x 10.5 and OpenSolaris with ZFS both support them; the only Linux support I've seen converts them to Posix ACLs |
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| 20:27.45 | HazardX | though I'm starting to recall that was...screwy (but that may have been because GID/UIDs didn't match...at all) |
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| 20:28.25 | HazardX | Regardless, you seem to know more than I do :D |
| 20:28.28 | \amethyst | HazardX: NFS4 ACLs have things like separate add_subdirectory, add_file, and delete (instead of just 'w' for all four) |
| 20:28.48 | HazardX | Oooh, so more like the ACLs from windows. |
| 20:29.01 | \amethyst | HazardX: yeah |
| 20:29.02 | HazardX | (which I always found to be confusingly arbitrary) |
| 20:29.13 | \amethyst | HazardX: or netware, if you're that old :) |
| 20:29.24 | HazardX | Nope, I'm not. |
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| 20:31.49 | \amethyst | HazardX: I recently ran into a situation on an OS X machine where it was useful to give a group the ability to create subdirectories without the ability to create files (in a shared web directory)... if it had been a Linux machine, a write ACL plus the sticky bit would have been the best I could do |
| 20:31.52 | takuan | i have just had one of the weirdest problems ever after upgrading to the newest xorg 7.4 |
| 20:32.16 | takuan | for some reason just hitting alt+control together switches to the third console or something |
| 20:32.37 | HazardX | \amethyst, yea, I've had problems with OSX on shared volumes (with or with out ACLs), where OSX will set perms to things other users can't look at |
| 20:32.45 | takuan | every keypress seems to be interpreted in the weirdest way by the xorg-server |
| 20:32.57 | abrotman | wrong keymap ? |
| 20:32.57 | takuan | anybody had the same thing? |
| 20:33.08 | takuan | i really wonder abrotman |
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| 20:33.13 | takuan | I changed nothing |
| 20:33.19 | takuan | i disabled all my xmodmaps |
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| 20:33.32 | takuan | and I have the same problem with another user having another keymap |
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| 20:34.13 | takuan | I do have a few warnings about like "type "one_level" has 1 levels, but <ralt> has 2 symbols |
| 20:34.23 | rgr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:34.26 | Tramp | a2: _CaDIKIZ_ spams onjoin |
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| 20:34.53 | simonrvn | Tramp: oh that works i guess =) |
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| 20:35.06 | Tramp | simonrvn: hehe, didn't know, just tried :) |
| 20:35.12 | takuan | I threw away the xorg.conf file |
| 20:35.13 | Supaplex | flicks a buggar at _CaDIKIZ_ on the way out |
| 20:35.15 | simonrvn | nice one |
| 20:35.19 | PovAddict | follows |
| 20:35.38 | simonrvn | Supaplex: a booger ? :) |
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| 20:35.48 | hark | on-join spam |
| 20:36.08 | Supaplex | yes, but with a french accent ;) |
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| 20:36.20 | simonrvn | hehe |
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| 20:37.56 | M06w | what's wrong with: /sbin/shutdown -t now |
| 20:38.06 | rgr | now the question is how to configure it to mute the output when the headphone is plugged in ... |
| 20:38.08 | takuan | my server also tells me "dropping master" "seting master" |
| 20:38.14 | takuan | what does that mean? |
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| 20:38.31 | ultralazer | ok so I thought I would explain about why my xorg seemed to die on me. the usb controller hosed up my mouse. So the mouse was plugging itself out then in then out then in. put on the ps/2 adapter the "xorg" problem is dead. pfew. |
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| 20:38.50 | ultralazer | plus my ipod charges. yea! |
| 20:39.10 | Supaplex | burps, releasing the sweet aroma of ginger beer again - mmmm yumm |
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| 20:41.37 | dummies_freelanc | hola como cpnstruyo un script en shell par averificar si tengo espacio en el disco. |
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| 20:42.11 | poisonbit | dummies_freelanc, #debian-es please |
| 20:42.42 | PovAddict | dummies_freelanc: "df" says all you want to know |
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| 20:43.04 | dummies_freelanc | ok |
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| 20:43.19 | ctmjr | M06w, that's a joke right? |
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| 20:43.51 | dirk` | hi! |
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| 20:53.30 | lolufail | hi! |
| 20:53.58 | lolufail | can I access a linux-vserver filesystem directly from the host, as with openvz? |
| 20:54.20 | lolufail | openvz has super old kernels, something is really buggy for me: http://pastebin.com/m35c43329 |
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| 21:00.38 | DomiX | hi, I installed 3GB on my computer but the system freeze just before grub2 start the menu with 2GB it's ok, what could be wrong? |
| 21:01.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | hmm |
| 21:01.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | !openvz |
| 21:01.20 | dpkg | OpenVZ provides OS-level virtualization, creating isolated and secure virtual private servers on a single physical server. Installation instructions at http://wiki.openvz.org/Installation_on_Debian . #openvz on irc.freenode.net. See also <virtualization>. |
| 21:01.27 | greycat | are you sure you got the right physical kind of RAM for your motherboard? |
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| 21:02.19 | DomiX | greycat, yes, I can swicth the memory eveytime I use 3GB It freeze |
| 21:02.28 | M06w | why do things not make sense in debian? |
| 21:04.01 | greycat | Unix in general (including Linux and therefore Debian) has quite a learning curve. |
| 21:04.02 | DomiX | greycat, I mean I tried some combination of my 3 1Go |
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| 21:04.29 | jhutchins_lt | DomiX: Test the ram. |
| 21:04.35 | M06w | it's not that there's a learning curve, it just fails to contain logic; for example |
| 21:04.56 | PovAddict | example? |
| 21:04.59 | M06w | I was just rewriting my apache config, but I couldn't get it to load mod_vhost_alias |
| 21:05.14 | M06w | nothing I or #httpd could think of worked |
| 21:05.22 | M06w | eventually I had enough and closed putty |
| 21:05.23 | jhutchins_lt | M06w: Debian as opposed to what? |
| 21:05.30 | justin | M06w: did you run a2enmod? |
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| 21:05.33 | M06w | later I go back in, and it just works |
| 21:05.47 | M06w | nothing had changed, I just restarted my ssh client |
| 21:05.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | sounds like PEBKAC |
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| 21:05.52 | lolufail | how would you go on analysing the BUG @ http://pastebin.com/m35c43329? I know it's not a stock debian kernel, but I have the same issue with the stock ones. it seems that mdraid and dmcrypt just fucking suck together. any pointers? switch sata controllers? test ram? switch powersupply? |
| 21:05.56 | justin | CutMeOwnThroat: sounds about right |
| 21:06.09 | M06w | even in pebkac something has to change! |
| 21:06.13 | Darkedge | Is Python 2.6 Packaged as a Debian Package? |
| 21:06.17 | M06w | nothing changed, and suddenly it worked |
| 21:06.22 | greycat | judd, versions python2.6 |
| 21:06.23 | judd | greycat: python2.6 -- experimental: 2.6.4-1 |
| 21:06.32 | seto | hi, do you know a good spell checker and grammar checker for english (scientific english) (I am french, and need to write some text in english.. but I have a real low level in this language) (I want something that can be installed on debian, free or proprietary) |
| 21:06.39 | DomiX | jhutchins, well it's odd that even grub can't start, I'm not sure it could be bad ram :( |
| 21:06.40 | Darkedge | I need it for dev. |
| 21:06.45 | themill | "need" |
| 21:06.56 | PovAddict | Darkedge: in experimental repo |
| 21:08.00 | Darkedge | how does /me enable experimental repos.? |
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| 21:08.31 | rgr | Is it possible to build gspca modules with the 2.6.30 kernel in debian testing? is there a one-linber perhaps? |
| 21:08.37 | rgr | liner |
| 21:08.47 | greycat | Darkedge: /msg dpkg experimental |
| 21:08.51 | themill | dpkg, python 2.6 is a work in progress. Changes to the underlying python module layout makes for a lot of work to get everything to work nicely with this version. Status of the transition at http://tiny.pl/hqwjz. Packages for python 2.6 are available from <experimental> and not supported by #debian. |
| 21:08.51 | dpkg | okay, themill |
| 21:09.00 | simonrvn | rgr: they don't compile |
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| 21:09.26 | rgr | is there another way o get my webcam back working? )logitech communicate stx)? |
| 21:09.43 | simonrvn | only the the ones upstream in git compile, and on mine it doesn't work, still |
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| 21:10.14 | simonrvn | rgr: mine's some crap one that they haven't fixed yet (gspca zc3xx) |
| 21:10.28 | lolufail | cmon someone point me into the right direction please :( my debian crashes every few minutes when I have light IO on the stupid array :( |
| 21:10.46 | PovAddict | elaborate on "crashes" |
| 21:10.56 | rgr | Much as I love Debian the constant battle with sound/video each time there is an update is starting to depress me :-; Oh well. I'll try git then! Thanks for the advice. |
| 21:11.04 | lolufail | PovAddict: http://pastebin.com/m35c43329? |
| 21:11.07 | lolufail | without the ? |
| 21:11.14 | simonrvn | rgr: good luck, i'll get you the url |
| 21:11.19 | PovAddict | ah that |
| 21:11.21 | PovAddict | no idea |
| 21:11.37 | PovAddict | (I should have scrolled up and seen you had posted that) |
| 21:11.49 | rgr | thanks |
| 21:11.51 | lolufail | i've tried just about every kernel I could get my hands on :( |
| 21:11.55 | simonrvn | rgr: oh my bad, it's in a mercurial repo |
| 21:11.55 | greycat | I had major problems with ALSA after every kernel update until I eventually stumbled across a correct description of what I'm supposed to put into /etc/asound.conf |
| 21:12.07 | lolufail | hmm maybe my hardware is broken |
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| 21:12.22 | simonrvn | rgr: http://linuxtv.org/hg/v4l-dvb |
| 21:12.46 | Darkedge | OK I got it |
| 21:12.52 | Darkedge | What section is it in |
| 21:12.58 | Darkedge | Devliment? |
| 21:13.05 | Darkedge | It's not in there. :( |
| 21:13.07 | justin | Devliment? |
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| 21:15.34 | themill | Darkedge: if you can't find the package, then there is no way you should be installing packages from experimental on your machine. I'd really really suggest that you stop now. |
| 21:16.17 | Darkedge | themill: But I need it :( |
| 21:16.38 | rgr | simonrvn: compiling away. I'm confused. Weren |
| 21:16.49 | rgr | 't the gspca modules seperate before? |
| 21:16.51 | themill | Darkedge: if you write stuff that needs python2.6 then no-one else can run it... |
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| 21:17.02 | greycat | well, very few others. |
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| 21:18.08 | Darkedge | All the distros. besides Debian has 2.6 |
| 21:18.16 | Darkedge | well all that I know of... |
| 21:18.44 | abrotman | Darkedge: like RedHat? |
| 21:18.44 | themill | Darkedge: debian stable will never have python 2.6. Centos and RHEL 4 and 5 will never have python 2.6.... do you want the list to go on? |
| 21:19.03 | abrotman | ponders slackware |
| 21:19.12 | Darkedge | no... |
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| 21:19.39 | abrotman | themill: ITYM never 'officially' have ... |
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| 21:19.56 | greycat | "debian stable" might have it after squeeze is released. Debian Lenny will never have it. |
| 21:20.04 | themill | yeah |
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| 21:22.55 | sams | hi...i want to install my HL2035 Brother laser printer...but if i want to print - it just throws out blank papers...until i switch it of?? does anyone knows a solution?? |
| 21:23.32 | format_c | I have a HL2030 and it works fine |
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| 21:23.51 | format_c | I just had to adjust the drivers margin settins |
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| 21:24.16 | arcsky | hey, how can i make a .deb package? |
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| 21:24.24 | abrotman | !tell arcsky about mg |
| 21:24.44 | sams | at home i use a HL2030 via network without any problems...but HL2035 with a direkt usb connection...the described problem??? |
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| 21:26.56 | Darkedge | found it |
| 21:27.03 | rgr | simonrvn: works fine with cheese now but not in skype. Not bad : 50% coverage :-; I checked its the same device too. |
| 21:27.03 | Darkedge | except |
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| 21:27.44 | sams | format_c: which settings do you have?? |
| 21:27.54 | Darkedge | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/148320/ |
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| 21:28.03 | Darkedge | So I did apt-get -f install |
| 21:28.10 | Darkedge | It's still not corrected |
| 21:28.13 | Darkedge | :( |
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| 21:28.40 | format_c | sams, which settings? you mean my ppd file? |
| 21:28.54 | format_c | Ah I installed a HL-2060 driver |
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| 21:29.42 | rgr | Anyone experience of video device not working with skype but ok with some other progs like cheese? Desperately need video working for a transatlantic family call later. Used to work but haven't used it in ages. Device module clearly loaded or cheese would not work. |
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| 21:30.15 | sams | format_c: have you installed the drivers from Brother Solution Center?? |
| 21:30.26 | rgr | hmm. doesnt work with camorama either which actually crashes. |
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| 21:30.41 | format_c | in this case nope. I just took the one provided by cups |
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| 21:31.11 | sams | format_c: under find printers...and then followed the menu? |
| 21:31.34 | pingouin | rgr: tried ekiga ? |
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| 21:32.07 | pingouin | rgr: does video device means webcam ? |
| 21:32.26 | rgr | yes. video0 is webcam. cheese shows video fine. |
| 21:33.15 | rgr | pingouin: ekiga talks to skype? |
| 21:33.41 | pingouin | rgr: hmm...skype...is not free/open it's proprietary tool |
| 21:33.56 | sams | format_c: which Printer Driver? |
| 21:33.59 | rgr | well, forgetting the politics I guess that means no. So not really an option. |
| 21:34.24 | format_c | sams, http://koeppe.homelinux.org/~koeppea/cups.png |
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| 21:34.49 | pingouin | it is politics when you choose a closed software/protocol.... under open os |
| 21:35.04 | pingouin | have a dual boot, run windows to make it work well with skype i guess |
| 21:35.06 | format_c | I needed to install the foomatic-db-gutenprint package |
| 21:35.07 | abrotman | ignore skype .. look at other apps to see if they work ornot |
| 21:35.21 | format_c | and the cups gutenprint package |
| 21:35.31 | pingouin | camstream (to take pictures, not skype) |
| 21:35.53 | simonrvn | rgr: well the last hg pull/update ... i finally got mine to work, after months and months of not working |
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| 21:36.25 | simonrvn | cheese now runs it flawlessly, and no buffer overruns \o/ |
| 21:36.28 | sams | format_c: ok...ill try! |
| 21:36.57 | rgr | yes cheese works fine. None of the others I have tried do. Camorama crashes. Skype shows noise. Sigh. |
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| 21:37.14 | pingouin | it's XXI century.... and computers still have troubles to communicate ;) |
| 21:37.15 | pingouin | fun |
| 21:37.18 | simonrvn | tried it in camorama, or camE ? |
| 21:37.20 | rgr | Ekiga might be nice but on one I communicate with will change it since their contacts all use Skype etc etc. |
| 21:37.21 | simonrvn | mm |
| 21:37.36 | rgr | s/on/no |
| 21:37.42 | simonrvn | try using the v4lcompat |
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| 21:37.49 | rgr | how? |
| 21:37.52 | pingouin | yeah, sure.... be free means sacrifice ;) |
| 21:37.58 | abrotman | rgr: they don't have to switch to ekiga .. just something that is compatible |
| 21:38.03 | simonrvn | LD_PRELOAD "trick" |
| 21:38.25 | themill | Converting the entirety of the rest of the world will take time, however. |
| 21:38.30 | simonrvn | LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so |
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| 21:38.37 | simonrvn | LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so command_here --options |
| 21:38.47 | rgr | abrotman: but meanwhile in the real world they already happily use skype which costs them nothing and is used by all their friends. Yeah I know .... but its a vicious circle. I tried converting people to emacs recently. LOL. |
| 21:39.06 | abrotman | rgr: it costs them nothing as long as they use it a certain way .. and the alternatives are also free |
| 21:39.43 | greycat | It's incredibly difficult to shift a market segment from an entrenched free-as-in-beer product to a free-as-in-love alternative. Witness MP3 and Ogg Vorbis.' |
| 21:39.45 | rgr | yes, but as i said, it works for them and the 20,000,000 people currently online with it. Its like flogging a dead horse. If I want to talk to a few fellow Debian users Ekiga is just fine :-; |
| 21:39.54 | pingouin | the real question is , are you worth enough for your friends to make them switch ;) |
| 21:39.57 | rgr | greycat: absolutely |
| 21:39.57 | abrotman | and they're all using windows |
| 21:40.05 | rgr | abrotman: wrong. |
| 21:40.17 | abrotman | rgr: oh .. OSX ? |
| 21:40.23 | rgr | many linux users I know use skype because .... "insert obvious reasons once more" |
| 21:40.26 | abrotman | rgr: bottom line, if skype isn't working, ask Skype |
| 21:40.39 | rgr | ... |
| 21:40.41 | pingouin | simple |
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| 21:40.45 | abrotman | rgr: cheese is working .. the camera obviously works |
| 21:40.57 | rgr | yes, yes, I know. |
| 21:40.59 | abrotman | it's possible the device node relocated |
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| 21:41.12 | simonrvn | mplayer works too |
| 21:41.30 | rgr | whats command line mplayer to play video cam? Will try that. |
| 21:41.49 | simonrvn | mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:width=640:height=480:device=/dev/video0 |
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| 21:43.27 | rgr | dont see anything. but getting back to the ld_preload above, what do I do with those lines? |
| 21:43.49 | jhutchins_lt | What's a quick way to put a good load on a processor? |
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| 21:44.41 | plasmid | Is there a substitute for Windows Home Server 2008 that does incremental backups and can be managed in a gui environment? Is NAS the only solution? |
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| 21:45.47 | abrotman | plasmid: this is #debian? |
| 21:45.54 | format_c | plasmid, jep: format c: |
| 21:46.03 | abrotman | format_c: not funny |
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| 21:46.16 | rgr | Wow. What a mistake. Like falling into a pit of rattle snakes .. :-; |
| 21:46.18 | teekay_ | ok |
| 21:46.19 | format_c | plasmid, what is your exact question |
| 21:46.28 | M06w | where's the file that controls what starts on boot? |
| 21:46.38 | abrotman | there is no single file |
| 21:46.51 | M06w | ok, where's the files; or how can I find them |
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| 21:47.21 | abrotman | M06w: update-rc.d |
| 21:48.05 | Xenguy | M06w: do you just want to control what services come up automatically on boot? |
| 21:48.14 | format_c | plasmid, windows server does not mean anything. The backup thing can every linux distro handle using rsync maybe in combination with some wrapper like duplicity or duply |
| 21:48.26 | greycat | M06w: /etc/rc*.d in general |
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| 21:48.30 | rgr | simonrvn: The v4lcompat driver works fine! Many, many thanks for your positive and helpful input! |
| 21:48.44 | abrotman | simonrvn: good job .. now he'll come back again .. |
| 21:48.48 | M06w | for some reason on boot there are like eight apache2 processes that don't make a pid file so I have to kill them all manually to restart it |
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| 21:49.11 | rgr | abrotman: only to watch you being rude to people. It's always a pleasure :-; |
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| 21:50.25 | abrotman | is hurt ... |
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| 21:52.07 | mangan | Hello! I wonder if mtab, fstab and automount behaviour of debian and ubuntu are the same or which one works better. My intention is to learn to understand, WHAT EXACTLY is going on (in commands) when an internal or external drive is plugged and automounted |
| 21:52.37 | abrotman | mangan: that depends on the automount mechanism in question |
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| 21:54.21 | mangan | @abrotman: well, I'm not talking about hal, udev or policykit but what comes next: Who is making the entry in mtab? |
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| 21:55.03 | f00bar80 | how to check kernel for ppp and pppoe support enabled (module or built-in) ??? |
| 21:55.23 | abrotman | f00bar80: the Debian kernels have it |
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| 21:55.44 | f00bar80 | abrotman, how to know it's there or not |
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| 21:56.08 | abrotman | f00bar80: /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 21:56.27 | abrotman | there's more than just grepping for PPP, but that's a start |
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| 21:58.05 | f00bar80 | abrotman, /boot/config-2.6.18-4-486: Permission denied |
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| 21:58.15 | Xenguy | interesting, some RH box just poked Apache using 'curl' (could it be that linux botnet I read about awhile back?) |
| 21:58.39 | abrotman | f00bar80: 1) your kernel is *very* out of date and vulnerable to a few trivial exploits |
| 21:58.47 | abrotman | f00bar80: 2) is that file there? |
| 21:59.07 | patrikf | Xenguy: curl is a widespread HTTP library. so might or might not be the case, I'd say not. |
| 21:59.17 | abrotman | Xenguy: or an indexing bot? |
| 21:59.20 | f00bar80 | abrotman, how to if it's there or not at the time i got permission denied |
| 21:59.40 | abrotman | f00bar80: ls /boot/ |
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| 22:00.01 | f00bar80 | abrotman, then ? |
| 22:00.01 | Xenguy | abrotman: not if it obeys robot.txt |
| 22:00.35 | abrotman | f00bar80: is the file there or not? |
| 22:00.43 | abrotman | Xenguy: seems to be far fewer are obeying that file |
| 22:00.47 | abrotman | seems to me |
| 22:00.48 | Xenguy | patrikf: it is looking for PHPadmin files apparently |
| 22:01.00 | f00bar80 | abrotman yes config-2.6.18-4-486 |
| 22:01.11 | abrotman | f00bar80: do you have root access ? |
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| 22:01.29 | f00bar80 | abrotman, yes and did change chmod it to 775 |
| 22:01.40 | abrotman | and you still can't read it ? |
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| 22:02.06 | f00bar80 | abrotman, i did but got blank output |
| 22:02.14 | abrotman | doing what command ? |
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| 22:02.36 | f00bar80 | abrotman, /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
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| 22:02.52 | abrotman | you can't execute it .. you ahve to read it or grep it |
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| 22:05.28 | sams | format_c: ok...now i use the same driver...if i want to print the test page...the green ready light is blinking - nothing more?? |
| 22:06.00 | f00bar80 | abrotman, no ppp or pppoe there in this file , then this means it's not installed ? if not how to get a Kernels compiled by Debian ? |
| 22:06.13 | abrotman | f00bar80: grep PPP /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 22:06.34 | simonrvn | i know debian builds those drivers |
| 22:06.55 | simonrvn | all if not most as modules |
| 22:07.12 | f00bar80 | abrotman, i did, got nothing |
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| 22:07.56 | abrotman | f00bar80: i have a machine here with a 2.6.18-6-686 from Debian .. and it has PPP |
| 22:08.10 | abrotman | f00bar80: you did PPP not ppp, right ? |
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| 22:08.18 | spoonadoon | http://s1.directupload.net/images/user/091031 |
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| 22:08.26 | simonrvn | ... |
| 22:08.32 | simonrvn | kill |
| 22:08.35 | abrotman | yay driveby |
| 22:08.46 | format_c | sams, testpage using cups? |
| 22:08.47 | _SKiTZO | hm i cant seem to find any packages that support evms |
| 22:08.50 | _SKiTZO | for debian |
| 22:08.55 | _SKiTZO | only a few old packages |
| 22:08.56 | sams | format_c: yep! |
| 22:09.00 | _SKiTZO | was evms support removed? |
| 22:09.01 | format_c | have you tailed cups error.log ? |
| 22:10.39 | f00bar80 | abrotman, no ppp |
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| 22:10.59 | sams | format_c: nothing...??? |
| 22:11.08 | f00bar80 | abrotman, if its not there no way to install it ? |
| 22:11.19 | abrotman | f00bar80: cat /proc/version .. what does it say ? |
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| 22:12.04 | sams | format_c: ...job is completed! ...cups tells me! |
| 22:12.31 | f00bar80 | abrotman, linux version 2.6.18.4-486 (Debian 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12) |
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| 22:12.43 | abrotman | that is not /proc/version |
| 22:13.16 | format_c | using usb? is it listed: http://koeppe.homelinux.org/~koeppea/cups2.png |
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| 22:14.25 | sams | format_c: yes! |
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| 22:15.05 | hochron | can someone help me add lenny-backports to my repos? |
| 22:15.11 | f00bar80 | abrotman, gcc version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-21)) |
| 22:15.21 | cast | they could, it's really not all that hard |
| 22:15.26 | f00bar80 | abrotman, that's all what i got |
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| 22:16.17 | cast | echo "deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free" >> /etc/apt/sources.list probably does something |
| 22:16.41 | hochron | thank you very much cast |
| 22:17.28 | format_c | sams, even "echo test" | lp doesn't do anything |
| 22:17.43 | format_c | arg wrong quote |
| 22:17.46 | f00bar80 | abrotman, any comment ? |
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| 22:19.17 | sams | format_c: "request id is Brother_HL-2030_series_USB_1-35 (1 file(s))" |
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| 22:20.37 | abrotman | f00bar80: you're not using a debian kernel is all i can think |
| 22:20.45 | abrotman | f00bar80: is this a VPS or something like that ? |
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| 22:21.08 | f00bar80 | abrotman. it's a vmware |
| 22:21.16 | naiv | Q: do you see what's wrong in this command ? readlink /etc/alternatives/java_vm | xargs dirname | xargs cd |
| 22:21.30 | f00bar80 | abrotman, no way to get a debian kernel ? |
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| 22:21.55 | hochron | isn't the command to install pidgin from backports 'apt-get install -t lenny-backports pidgin' is says its already the current version |
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| 22:24.07 | hochron | hmm, I tried "apt-get upgrade -t lenny-backport pidgin" but it wont upgrade it...... What am I doing wrong? |
| 22:24.23 | azeem | hochron: it's lenny-backports |
| 22:24.39 | hark | hochron: run an update and use the previous command |
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| 22:25.07 | f00bar80 | abrotman, ...? |
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| 22:26.07 | abrotman | f00bar80: aptitude install linux-image-686 |
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| 22:26.22 | careta | does anyone know if a 32 bit linux system will be able to recognize 3 or 3.5 gb of ram? |
| 22:26.36 | abrotman | uhm .. more than that |
| 22:26.58 | abrotman | the -686 will see about 3.4GB .. the -686-bigmem will see quite a bit more (up near 64GB I believe) |
| 22:27.07 | mquin | Cerulean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension#Linux |
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| 22:27.15 | mquin | s/Cerulean/careta/ |
| 22:27.24 | careta | thanks a lot abrotman and mquin |
| 22:27.25 | cast | doesn't see too much reasonn to use 32bit debian on such a box |
| 22:27.28 | jim-1 | hey guys,can anyone help with the crashing of ff on a 64bit amd?flashpluggin-nonfree crashes a lot |
| 22:27.32 | hochron | thank you hark |
| 22:27.37 | f00bar80 | abrotman, so what do you see is better ? |
| 22:27.43 | careta | cast, too lazy to reinstall |
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| 22:27.52 | cast | careta: ahh, fairly nuff |
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| 22:28.16 | cast | jim-1: that's not officially part of debian is it D: |
| 22:28.36 | careta | is there any performance difference from operating in 32 bit/64 bit mode? |
| 22:28.44 | jim-1 | im using debian..yes in fact its not debian exclusive prob |
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| 22:29.08 | neoice | careta: I think it depends on the application. |
| 22:29.15 | hark | naiv: the last bit with cd |
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| 22:30.20 | neoice | careta: here's a random benchmark I googled up real quickly, you might be able to find more: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=616 |
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| 22:30.29 | careta | neoice, my use is for development in c and java, web browsing, virtualbox, real time audio apps |
| 22:30.37 | careta | thanks i |
| 22:30.42 | careta | i'll look into it |
| 22:30.56 | neoice | it looks like it doesnt REALLY matter |
| 22:31.07 | neoice | if you have more than 4GB of RAM, you'll want 64bit for sure |
| 22:31.35 | careta | not really, 4 gb modules are still very expensive |
| 22:31.37 | hochron | it works!! thanks everyone for your help!! |
| 22:31.39 | careta | maybe in a couple of years |
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| 22:33.00 | neoice | careta: 4GB mods are expensive, but 2GB are cheap and a lot of boards have 4 slots :P |
| 22:33.26 | careta | neoice, i'm on a laptop, so i only have 2 |
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| 22:33.45 | neoice | careta: ah. yeah, I've been wanting to upgrade to 4GB on my laptop but have been lazy. |
| 22:35.09 | careta | 2gb have been working fine for me on my previous laptop, but i just bought a new one with intel-VT extensions and i need to run 2 virtual machines at the same time with 1gb mem each |
| 22:35.54 | naiv | ok thanks i found an alternative : cd $(dirname $(readlink /etc/alternatives/java_vm)) |
| 22:36.16 | careta | i guess that's is the only reason, on normal desktop use is hard to get over those 2gb |
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| 22:36.23 | jim-1 | cast: do you know any other similar app like flashplugin-nonfree that's opensource?flashplugin-nonfree and amd64 causes lots of crashes in ff |
| 22:36.29 | careta | even with 30 ff tabs open |
| 22:37.00 | cast | jim-1: yeah....for many reasons, security included, i decided adobe was a piece of shit and stopped using flash completely. |
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| 22:37.09 | benedikt | ff? iceweasel? |
| 22:37.13 | jim-1 | yes |
| 22:37.17 | cast | careta: never used windows heh? :) |
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| 22:37.45 | benedikt | flash is a piece of shit. thank god html5 supports videos without flash. |
| 22:38.20 | careta | cast, the only reason i use windows is for civilization iv :) and it has no network drivers so its completely cut off from the world |
| 22:38.42 | j_14 | is there a browser suppoting html5 already in squeeze? |
| 22:38.43 | cast | in a VM? |
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| 22:39.25 | careta | cast, no on a separate partition, but no network drivers, no antivirus, no usb sticks get there, only write to it from debian |
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| 22:39.59 | benedikt | j_14: no not in squeeze. but iceweasel 3.5 is in unstable |
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| 22:40.38 | cast | careta: should just try a VM \m/, now that KVM is in linux |
| 22:40.49 | gatewarstrek | gate: ping |
| 22:40.55 | cast | presuming you have enough RAM and a recent CPU, anyway |
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| 22:41.08 | benedikt | cast: KVM is a hypervisor right? |
| 22:41.32 | benedikt | careta: of you could use virtualbox. |
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| 22:41.48 | careta | cast, i have integrated graphics, i believe there is no 3d acceleration in kvm? and virtualbox 3d performance is crappy |
| 22:41.49 | gatewarstrek | gate: ping |
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| 22:42.07 | cast | does civ iv have 3D? |
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| 22:42.17 | gatewarstrek | gate: please choose a different nick. |
| 22:42.19 | careta | yes its the first to have 3d |
| 22:42.24 | cast | neat |
| 22:42.30 | cast | only played civ2 |
| 22:42.35 | careta | but its quite old, from 2004 |
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| 22:43.12 | Gate | metaltux: ping |
| 22:43.19 | azeem | careta: eh, '96 |
| 22:43.41 | careta | azeem, im talking about civ 4 |
| 22:43.44 | mfaraci | im going to be rebuilding server with Areca ARC-1110, and i would like to clone system, rebuild RAID5 and then restore from image, currently running single disk, should i have any trouble pulling this off? |
| 22:43.53 | azeem | careta: that wasn't clear |
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| 22:46.45 | vn | is it normal that debian testing iso isnt available for any arch except amd64 atm? |
| 22:46.53 | azeem | vn: yes |
| 22:46.55 | benedikt | vn: yes |
| 22:47.03 | azeem | if you want to install testing, install lenny and upgrad |
| 22:47.04 | benedikt | the isos are built weekly |
| 22:47.05 | azeem | e |
| 22:47.14 | benedikt | of build an iso with jigdo |
| 22:47.33 | benedikt | !tell vn about jigdo |
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| 22:48.57 | vn | ok thanks for the info |
| 22:49.00 | hugleo | where to find a comprehensive and easy guide to build a debian package? |
| 22:49.02 | vn | see ya and have a nice one ;) |
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| 22:49.17 | abrotman | !tell hugleo about mg |
| 22:50.45 | cast | decides to move to lenny++ |
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| 22:50.59 | mfaraci | can someone just confirm im running debian etch and want to clone and restore after add raid controller raid5, on boot should there be any issue seing new hardware Areca ARC-1110 |
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| 22:51.28 | azeem | mfaraci: try to split that into multiple sentences |
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| 22:52.46 | valdyn | !tell mfaraci -about ask |
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| 22:53.29 | benedikt | since i updated squeeze today evolution has started segfaulting when i try to reply to a message. Anybody else having this problem? |
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| 22:56.13 | jermuon | hello, I have a usb drive. It's mounted as vfat. I've put a movie from a Windows machine in it, but I can't see it on Linux. |
| 22:56.55 | jermuon | Though I can see that the free space is the right one. Is it a matter of mounting? |
| 22:56.58 | benedikt | if you plug it back into the windows machine can you still see it? |
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| 22:57.03 | format_c | jermuon, what does file <file> say ? |
| 22:57.21 | jermuon | benedikt, I'm not on that machine unfortunately(it's of a friend's of mine) |
| 22:57.26 | jermuon | format_c, let me check. |
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| 22:58.18 | jermuon | format_c, file /dev/sdb ? |
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| 22:58.29 | format_c | sec.... |
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| 22:58.34 | jermuon | ok |
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| 22:59.07 | format_c | jermuon, ok the usb-disk is identified as /dev/sdb? |
| 22:59.15 | format_c | but not the movie file |
| 22:59.15 | iuri | hi there, my debian is refusing port 80 to be opened to aolserver as root user |
| 22:59.27 | iuri | how do i open it |
| 22:59.28 | jermuon | yes, that's what `mount` gives. No, there is nothing in it. |
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| 23:00.17 | format_c | so you connected a FAT32 formatted drive using USB to a WIndows OS, copied a file on it, and then disconnected it? |
| 23:00.21 | marh | is there some dbus viewer currently in the debian repos? |
| 23:00.24 | magyar_ | hi, i need help with egroupware in lenny. I cant get icalsrv to work |
| 23:00.30 | jermuon | format_c, exactly |
| 23:00.37 | mfaraci | Im running Debian Etch. My system is using one hard drive at the moment. I am going to add raid card and setup raid5. I want to backup my system, then after rebuild i want to restore. Will debian just see new hardware and not kernel panic? |
| 23:00.39 | format_c | which windows ... sry for OT |
| 23:00.45 | jermuon | format_c, XP. |
| 23:01.10 | valdyn | mfaraci: try and see or pay a consultant |
| 23:01.33 | format_c | and when you're booting windows you see the file and can play it, mounted on windows using vfat it does neither? |
| 23:01.40 | valdyn | mfaraci: the worst case scenario should be that you need to fix the boot manager |
| 23:02.03 | format_c | the second windoof need to be substituded with linux |
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| 23:02.48 | jermuon | format_c, these windows are of a friend's of mine. He just copied it and gave it to me. |
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| 23:03.08 | valdyn | or i should have said: |
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| 23:03.20 | jermuon | format_c, though there were files (that I had put in the past) that windows couldn't see, but I could with Linux. |
| 23:03.23 | valdyn | mfaraci: the worst case scenario should be that you need to fix the boot manager and /etc/fstab and regenerate the initial ramdisk |
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| 23:03.52 | valdyn | mfaraci: so have a livecd ready |
| 23:04.00 | jermuon | format_c, check the ouput of these two commands if they help: http://pastebin.com/m258f05f3 |
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| 23:04.16 | f00bar80 | abrotman, grep ppp /boot/config-2.6.18-6-686 always return nothing |
| 23:04.26 | dotCOMmie | Is there a reason I dont get the menu for modifying #of cpus and disks when using virt-manager + kvm.. I do get it on debian + xen |
| 23:04.39 | ultralazer | I've read that the debian community doesn't like using the libdvdcss library is there a legal issue? I'm running Lenny and just wondering. |
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| 23:04.49 | ultralazer | er libdvdcss2 |
| 23:04.49 | valdyn | ultralazer: thats nonsense |
| 23:04.53 | ultralazer | oh ok |
| 23:05.06 | mfaraci | valdyn: understood hehhe, i was woundering if it would be better to install new Debian insallation then dd to restore |
| 23:05.07 | valdyn | ultralazer: the libdvdcss2 is simply not in debian, liking has nothing to do with it |
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| 23:05.15 | ultralazer | ok I see. |
| 23:05.18 | hark | f00bar80: -i ppp or PPP |
| 23:05.20 | ultralazer | so it's not like I was thinking |
| 23:05.21 | valdyn | !dmm |
| 23:05.21 | dpkg | methinks dmm is Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm lenny> <dmm etch> <dmm squeeze>. |
| 23:05.32 | valdyn | ultralazer: but its there ^^ a |
| 23:05.40 | valdyn | or |
| 23:05.43 | valdyn | !libdvdcss |
| 23:05.43 | dpkg | methinks libdvdcss2 is a free software library for unscrambling CSS-encrypted DVDs which is not distributed by Debian due to legal concerns. To get it, see /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/README.Debian or ask me about <debian-multimedia.org>. |
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| 23:06.16 | valdyn | mfaraci: that depends on you |
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| 23:06.34 | valdyn | mfaraci: i have not reinstalled this box more than once in 10 years |
| 23:06.42 | mtnman | <dr_nick_mode> hello everybody! </dr_nick_mode> |
| 23:06.51 | valdyn | mfaraci: but it can be alot if fiddling if you dont know your way around |
| 23:06.52 | f00bar80 | abrotman, CONFIG_PPPOE=m |
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| 23:07.41 | shivraj | how can I retrieve teh password to the default keyring ? |
| 23:07.51 | mfaraci | valdyn: the whole issue is Sys admin before me did not set server up with fault tolerance, and i need to rebuild HDD with raid5 |
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| 23:08.22 | f00bar80 | hark, CONFIG_PPPOE=m |
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| 23:08.38 | f00bar80 | hark, but when i Run pppoeconf i got command not found |
| 23:08.49 | hark | f00bar80: install it then |
| 23:09.05 | benedikt | anyody using squeeze and evolution for mail? |
| 23:09.11 | shivraj | evolution is asking for the password to the default keyring |
| 23:09.20 | f00bar80 | hark, what does it mean =m ? |
| 23:09.27 | valdyn | shivraj: what would be the point if it was easy to crack? |
| 23:09.46 | valdyn | shivraj: it should be your user password |
| 23:10.19 | cast | hmm, when upgrading from lenny to squeeze, it's whining about it being an untrusted source, how do i get the squeeze release key installed? |
| 23:10.40 | valdyn | cast: aptitude install debian-archive-keyring i think |
| 23:11.05 | hark | f00bar80: don't worry about that, you just have to install pppoeconf. see http://wiki.debian.org/PPPoE |
| 23:11.14 | valdyn | cast: this whole thing is pointless though so dont wory about it |
| 23:11.36 | valdyn | cast: ( why would you trust the keyring as debian package more than the unsigned packages ) |
| 23:11.37 | hark | cast: run an update again.. maybe mirror issue? |
| 23:11.38 | cast | yeah...tried that but still same issue |
| 23:11.46 | cast | hmm |
| 23:12.03 | MJD | cast: try running: apt-key update |
| 23:12.20 | valdyn | ah, didnt know that one |
| 23:12.38 | project2501a | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:12.56 | MJD | it updates the keyring for repos. After running, u still have to run apt-get update though. |
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| 23:13.42 | cast | valdyn: it's not pointless :P |
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| 23:14.22 | valdyn | cast: ..if you can trust the source of the key(s) |
| 23:14.32 | cast | hmm, same problem :( |
| 23:14.35 | project2501a | self.TRUST |
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| 23:14.42 | cast | valdyn: sure, |
| 23:15.02 | themill | cast: can you pastebin the output of "aptitude update" and the aptitude run that's giving you troubles? |
| 23:15.06 | valdyn | cast: there was plenty things changed and plenty issues over the weekend, maybe you need a different mirror |
| 23:15.15 | hark | the key is the same, apt-key update won't help |
| 23:15.22 | cast | themill: roger |
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| 23:16.17 | hark | cast: also you can run aptitude -o Debug::Acquire::gpgv=true update |
| 23:16.19 | [Enrico] | hi guys |
| 23:16.29 | simonrvn | roger dodger |
| 23:16.37 | valdyn | is debian not going to use something like cacert to certify keys? |
| 23:16.54 | valdyn | or ( or whatever "trustworthy" certifier ) |
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| 23:17.06 | [Enrico] | i'm trying debian squeeze and i want to notify you that the current version of nvidia-kernel-source (173 series) doesn't compile with the current kernel .30 . are you planning to update it to 185? |
| 23:17.24 | valdyn | [Enrico]: we know |
| 23:17.36 | hark | [Enrico]: /msg dpkg nvidia squeeze |
| 23:17.40 | valdyn | [Enrico]: you are trying to use stable nvidia with a kernel that is not in stable |
| 23:17.56 | valdyn | [Enrico]: you are trying to use debian/stable nvidia drivers with a kernel that is not in stable |
| 23:17.57 | [Enrico] | squeeze is not the stable one :D |
| 23:18.28 | [Enrico] | and i'm using squeeze nvidia-kernel-source -> testing not stable :D (correct me if i'm wrong) |
| 23:18.43 | valdyn | [Enrico]: yea, testings nvidia-glx is broken that way i think, lets see.. |
| 23:18.51 | benedikt | enrico: i had to use nvidia drivers from unstable |
| 23:18.52 | valdyn | judd: versions nvdia-glx |
| 23:18.53 | judd | valdyn: nvdia-glx -- |
| 23:18.58 | valdyn | judd: versions nvidia-glx |
| 23:18.59 | judd | valdyn: nvidia-glx -- etch/non-free: 1.0.8776-4 lenny/non-free: 173.14.09-5 squeeze/non-free: 173.14.09-5 sid/non-free: 185.18.36-2 |
| 23:19.09 | valdyn | [Enrico]: exactly, so go for the sid drivers |
| 23:19.17 | themill | [Enrico]: nvidia is broken in testing. /msg dpkg nvidia squeeze |
| 23:19.18 | dotCOMmie | is there a debian virtualization channel or something of the sort? |
| 23:19.19 | benedikt | but why hasnt nvidia-kernel-source dropped down to squeeze from unstable since it clearly has fewer bugs then the one currently in squeeze |
| 23:19.30 | salvin | [Enrico]: you always wrong |
| 23:19.33 | [Enrico] | valdyn: i tried but the nvidia-glx package has a defect (that's what aptitude says) |
| 23:19.39 | valdyn | benedikt: how would you know it has fewer bugs? |
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| 23:19.56 | valdyn | [Enrico]: every software has defects |
| 23:19.58 | benedikt | valdyn: less severe bugs then. its unusable in testing but usable in unstable |
| 23:19.59 | MJD | valdyn: Even if you use cacert (or any other ca) how do you prove the initial set of trustworthy certs are trustworthy? Its the same problem with the gpg key.. |
| 23:20.11 | valdyn | MJD: im aware of that... |
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| 23:20.40 | MJD | valdyn: So y should debian move to certs then? |
| 23:20.42 | valdyn | MJD: but cacert at least has a trust chain beyond debian developers |
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| 23:20.50 | [Enrico] | valdyn: eheheh ok but still i can't install nvidia-glx |
| 23:20.54 | [Enrico] | from sid |
| 23:21.07 | valdyn | MJD: either way im realy just courious, i dont care about this |
| 23:21.23 | valdyn | [Enrico]: why cant you? |
| 23:22.00 | [Enrico] | valdyn: couse aptitude says it is defective |
| 23:22.04 | valdyn | MJD: not sure about the policy right now, am i supposed tro meet a debian developer in person to have a chain of trust? |
| 23:22.21 | valdyn | [Enrico]: you get the choice to install anyway |
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| 23:22.36 | [Enrico] | valdyn: uh? really? i didn't see it, let me try |
| 23:22.45 | valdyn | [Enrico]: "aptitude says" really means "your apt-listchanges packages is showing you new bugs" |
| 23:22.57 | valdyn | err "listbugs" |
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| 23:24.09 | [Enrico] | valdyn: i'm sorry but it won't let me install it even with -f |
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| 23:24.24 | MJD | valdyn: If you do sign with a ca signed cert, you still have to trust all the dd's that can upload packages are trustworthy. All you do by signing the cert higher up is having someone say the dd's are the dd's. |
| 23:24.39 | valdyn | [Enrico]: its telling you that nvidia-kernel-source is not installed |
| 23:24.43 | valdyn | MJD: yea, true |
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| 23:24.58 | valdyn | [Enrico]: or *whatever* its "telling* you is there to be *read* |
| 23:25.16 | [Enrico] | valdyn: wrong, it is telling me that nvidia-kernel-185 is a virtual package |
| 23:25.25 | valdyn | [Enrico]: same thing |
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| 23:25.36 | [Enrico] | valdyn: but nvidia-kernel-souce is installedù |
| 23:25.46 | [Enrico] | valdyn: i read what it says, i'm not a newbie :D |
| 23:25.46 | valdyn | [Enrico]: installit, nvidia-kernel-source from sid, build the kernel driver, install it |
| 23:26.06 | valdyn | [Enrico]: nvidia-kernel-source is the package which nvidia-kernel is built from |
| 23:26.07 | [Enrico] | valdyn: so i have to built it before installing nvidia-glx? let's try |
| 23:26.14 | valdyn | [Enrico]: m-a a-i nvidia |
| 23:26.33 | [Enrico] | yeah i'm doing that |
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| 23:28.53 | plasmid | i have a 8800GTX Nvidia card, do I install debian etch or woody or? |
| 23:29.19 | benedikt | why would you install woody..? |
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| 23:29.27 | plasmid | because it is stable? |
| 23:29.31 | [Enrico] | valdyn: it worked, ty very much, i hope squeeze will be fixed soon anyway |
| 23:29.32 | adb | potato |
| 23:29.59 | benedikt | plasmid: lenny is stable. |
| 23:30.00 | plasmid | potato, woody & sid (sid being the most experimental)? |
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| 23:30.06 | MJD | plasmid: The current stable is lenny, etch is oldstable, and woody is oldstable-1 |
| 23:30.31 | plasmid | is new to debian. Let me read about debian a bit more. |
| 23:30.43 | valdyn | !ig |
| 23:30.43 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0.3) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual and for Etch (4.0r8) at http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/installmanual . See also <errata> and <installer firmware>. |
| 23:30.45 | valdyn | !d-i |
| 23:30.45 | dpkg | 5.0 lenny is now the "stable" Debian release (Feb 14, 2009). See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Etch is still available from http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/ . Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ . If you want to make custom install CDs, start with d-i. IRC: #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net. Also ask me about <errata>. |
| 23:30.54 | valdyn | sorry, to much spam |
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| 23:37.51 | benedikt | im sorry to repeat myself but is anybodu around using evolution on squeeze. It has started segfaulting when i hit reply to messages after upgrades today. I can't find any bugreports and i'd like to make sure this isnt something related to me before i submit a bug report. |
| 23:38.18 | valdyn | !bts |
| 23:38.18 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
| 23:38.21 | dondelelcaro | benedikt: did you check the bts? |
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| 23:38.32 | cast | crappy net |
| 23:39.13 | benedikt | dondelelcaro: yes. that is what i mean about not finding bug reports :) |
| 23:40.41 | kampasky | some time ago, when updating squeeze it complained about upstart and certain stale init.d script, unfortunately at the time i didn't save the actual message and now i've forgotten it - is squeeze using upstart by default now? what should i do to cleanly upgrade? or what could've caused that message? |
| 23:41.03 | azeem | kampasky: AFAIK it doesn't |
| 23:41.13 | benedikt | debian uses upstart? |
| 23:41.40 | azeem | it ships it at least |
| 23:41.47 | kampasky | i can't remember what was in the message, only that it was upstart-related :( |
| 23:41.53 | azeem | and it will likely switch to upstart for squeeze, but that hasn't happened yet |
| 23:42.02 | valdyn | umm? |
| 23:42.04 | kampasky | ok... |
| 23:42.05 | valdyn | since when |
| 23:42.11 | valdyn | judd: versions upstart |
| 23:42.12 | judd | valdyn: upstart -- sid: 0.6.3-1 squeeze: 0.6.3-1 |
| 23:42.27 | cast | themill: http://codepad.org/0Vz1egul |
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| 23:42.31 | valdyn | debian is switching to insserv |
| 23:43.21 | becky | valdyn, you mean using chkconfig for enabling or disabling services? |
| 23:43.39 | valdyn | becky: i mean dependency based script reordering |
| 23:44.28 | becky | jep I already got in touch with it. It was horrorble |
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| 23:44.39 | valdyn | works perfectly for me |
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| 23:45.28 | themill | cast: most odd |
| 23:45.36 | valdyn | upstart at squeeze+1 maybe |
| 23:45.55 | valdyn | but now im reading about upstart already for squeeze... |
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| 23:46.59 | cast | well, apt-key list only lists etch and lenny specific keys |
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| 23:47.20 | frog | hi, i have a nvidia card with digital and analog intreface. and there are 2 monitors connected. one is 'primary' and he sescod is tv. how can i configure the x server , that it switch automatically when i switch the tv to "pc" ?or if it would not be possible automatically, how can i do it with shortcut? the resolution is different |
| 23:47.29 | cast | but nothing explicitly mentioning squeeze, perhaps thats the issue |
| 23:47.32 | Hideki | Are there any issues with apache2, php5, php-pear and php-auth in lenny? I'm attempting to install poweradmin and it swears MDB2.php isn't avaiable (it does seem to be present in /usr/share/php/Auth/Container/ but isn't being found) |
| 23:47.38 | anao | @ALL how can i disable Kernel boot Messages at tty1? |
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| 23:48.13 | simonrvn | wonders when irc became twitter |
| 23:48.16 | gordonjcp | evening |
| 23:48.31 | gordonjcp | does anyone know if the stock Debian Stable kernel contains support for ax25? |
| 23:48.34 | simonrvn | yes it is |
| 23:48.40 | simonrvn | evening, i mean |
| 23:48.50 | SnakDoc | shouldn't i be able to find external with ls /dev/sd* |
| 23:48.52 | simonrvn | IIRC it does |
| 23:48.52 | themill | cast: it's signed with the "lenny" key. (grab Release and Release.gpg from http://ftp.iinet.net.au/debian/debian/dists/squeeze/ and check yourself: gpgv --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg Release.gpg Release) |
| 23:48.59 | simonrvn | gordonjcp: ^^ |
| 23:49.05 | gordonjcp | simonrvn: okay, I'll take a look at that |
| 23:49.22 | simonrvn | check the config-($uname -r) to be sure |
| 23:49.27 | becky | simonrvn, why twitter? |
| 23:49.38 | gordonjcp | thanks |
| 23:49.43 | simonrvn | becky: never mind |
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| 23:50.19 | cast | themill: hmm, so it is |
| 23:50.31 | simonrvn | oopsies |
| 23:50.34 | benedikt | frog: google disper |
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| 23:51.04 | cast | tries another mirror |
| 23:51.22 | simonrvn | mirrors work better when you clean them |
| 23:51.34 | kranius | hello, is there a way I can resize my home assuming I can't boot from CD/USB ? |
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| 23:52.21 | frog | benedikt: thanks |
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| 23:52.53 | becky | kranius, I guess resizing your home is only possilbe with sufficient funds :) |
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| 23:53.07 | kranius | bah |
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| 23:53.36 | becky | kranius, scnr |
| 23:53.36 | themill | cast: the Packages files on that mirror look OK and have the right md5sum so I suspect it's a proxy telling you lies. Changing mirrors is likely to solve that. |
| 23:53.41 | simonrvn | kranius: you'll have to boot to something else |
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| 23:53.59 | kranius | simonrvn: what if I *can't* ? |
| 23:54.15 | simonrvn | stick the drive into another box |
| 23:54.57 | kranius | simonrvn: I don't have another box, and it's a laptop :( |
| 23:55.05 | becky | if home is a sperate partition it should also be possible to loging using root |
| 23:55.14 | simonrvn | !rube goldberg install |
| 23:55.14 | dpkg | "Hi! I want to install Debian with a 2.6.x kernel on a machine, but I can't boot from floppies, and I can't boot from CD-ROM, and I have no network card. I have only a USB dot matrix printer and a punch card reader. Wait, the card reader just fell on the floor and broke." |
| 23:55.17 | SnakDoc | shouldn't i be able to find external with ls /dev/sd* |
| 23:55.22 | kranius | becky: yeah home is on /dev/sda9 |
| 23:55.58 | becky | kranius, and you have free space on the disk? |
| 23:56.45 | valdyn | df |
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| 23:57.48 | kranius | becky: yes I have like 50gb free :) |
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| 23:58.13 | TrueDD | Gnight to all |
| 23:58.15 | kranius | I'd like to create a new partition to give another distro a try |
| 23:58.16 | iluminator101 | hi icedove does not access internet on wifi, using connection refused? |
| 23:58.36 | becky | then it should be quite easy using *parted for example. |
| 23:58.44 | chellomere | iluminator101, do other applications that use internet work? |
| 23:58.50 | iluminator101 | yea |
| 23:59.15 | kranius | becky: yeah I know but I cannot boot on a liveCD/USB or so |
| 23:59.20 | simonrvn | i was thinking gparted, but you'll have to write the partition changes to disk... |
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| 23:59.35 | iluminator101 | chellomere: i tried to add certifcate for exception its not working |
| 23:59.38 | themill | iluminator101: when sending email or checking it? |
| 23:59.41 | simonrvn | doing that on the current booted system disk... *shudder* |
| 23:59.54 | cast | themill: hmm, changing mirrors fixed things :\ |
| 23:59.55 | becky | arg right |
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