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| 00:00.21 | abrotman | grendal_prime: you said already ... |
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| 00:00.40 | grendal_prime | ya but i sounded like i was from mars |
| 00:00.45 | abrotman | you are? |
| 00:01.07 | abrotman | grendal_prime: so see if it has a uid or something similar |
| 00:01.20 | \amethyst | syslq: you might need to find the pid of your syslog daemon and kill -HUP to have it reload its config and reopen all output files |
| 00:01.23 | grendal_prime | i just wanted to clarify....yes i am from mars but i do know earth english as well...um...the best english you can lear in kalifornia that is. |
| 00:01.41 | grendal_prime | it does have a uid. |
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| 00:02.06 | grendal_prime | Ive tried running my backup server under that uid and it no workie. |
| 00:02.15 | syslq | \amethyst, I did :) did not help it, by kill hup you mean restart daemon? |
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| 00:03.52 | grendal_prime | ok..if i create the mount as the backuppc user and use a ditributed key on the uid account on rsync.net server. that should allow me to connect as that user (is that crazy or does that make sence?) |
| 00:04.22 | Shockcore | is it possible to know onto which port or my sata controller card is sdb plug'ed on ? |
| 00:04.59 | \amethyst | syslq: no, many daemons, including syslog-ng and syslogd, catch SIGHUP and reload their config files |
| 00:05.19 | \amethyst | kill -HUP syslogdspid |
| 00:05.46 | \amethyst | but your syslog daemon might have a different name; there are a few popular ones, and IIRC the defaults have changed |
| 00:06.10 | syslq | \thanks btw one more thing unable to create db file '/dev/.udev/db/block:sdb': Too many open files <-- this is ulimit thing? (I cleared log coz of this) |
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| 00:09.57 | j_14 | What happened to the anouncement regarding the change of the freezing date for squeeze? Is squeeze still set to freeze next Decembre? |
| 00:12.55 | abrotman | j_14: no |
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| 00:21.19 | j_14 | abrotman: do you know when will it be frozen? I can't find new information on this. |
| 00:21.49 | sepult | how can i display top on a dedicated tty ? |
| 00:22.00 | sepult | someone know inittab entry's for ? |
| 00:22.10 | abrotman | j_14: i think currently they're thinking march or april |
| 00:22.13 | sepult | i know there's console-log or so |
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| 00:22.54 | sepult | but that just tail -f's something on /var/log |
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| 00:30.08 | Gnudoll | Has anyone else been having trouble with debian-unofficial? |
| 00:30.23 | tonsofpcs | hmm... what can open V4L/V4L2 devices and stream them other than VLC? |
| 00:30.35 | Gnudoll | I can ping it, but it will not give a package update, nor can I ftp into it |
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| 00:33.05 | dgeary2 | Gnudoll, what is the apt.conf line? |
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| 00:33.42 | maedca | hello |
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| 00:34.05 | Gnudoll | the sources.list line is : deb http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian sid main contrib non-free restricted |
| 00:34.36 | dgeary2 | Gnudoll, it looks like they've moved |
| 00:34.57 | Gnudoll | do you have a new line (corrected addy)? |
| 00:35.16 | maedca | how to apache? |
| 00:35.25 | dgeary2 | Gnudoll, i can only guess... |
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| 00:35.38 | dgeary2 | maedca, how to install? |
| 00:35.58 | maedca | no, conf nameserver |
| 00:36.30 | Gnudoll | nameserver would be bind |
| 00:36.37 | Gnudoll | I thought |
| 00:36.43 | maedca | bind9 |
| 00:37.13 | dgeary2 | Gnudoll, this is their website: http://unofficial.debian-maintainers.org/ |
| 00:37.27 | maedca | see ya!!! |
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| 00:37.48 | Tvmbledown | Can anyone give me a hand with setting my resolution properly? |
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| 00:38.08 | dgeary2 | Gnudoll, it seems to be http only |
| 00:39.01 | Gnudoll | yeah, I'll try the new lines there. . . I saw that page before, but did not twig on the new lines. . . |
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| 00:40.34 | dansushi | i'm using knetworkmanager to be able to connect to wireless networks, but I would like to be able to make it so that when I connect my computer to a wired network, I have a static IP. I've tried changing it in KDE Control Center, but no matter what I do, it goes back to DHCP. Does anyone have any ideas why this is happening? |
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| 00:42.36 | format_c | dansushi, does knetworkmanager uses static settings from the KDE Control Center? Not from the interfaces file? |
| 00:43.04 | dansushi | format_c: I don't know. Does it? |
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| 00:43.21 | Shockcore | http://wiki.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1034762 |
| 00:43.25 | Shockcore | i have something like that |
| 00:43.30 | Shockcore | latest kernel have it fixed or not? |
| 00:43.35 | dansushi | format_c: What is the interfaces file? |
| 00:43.49 | format_c | it's located in /etc/network |
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| 00:44.31 | format_c | assuming your wired card is called eth0... |
| 00:44.40 | dansushi | yep |
| 00:45.38 | dansushi | what should i add to make it automatically use a satic ip? |
| 00:45.55 | format_c | dansushi, just because I don't want to just tell you. read `man interfaces` |
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| 00:46.05 | dansushi | ok |
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| 00:46.54 | format_c | I don't know exactly if knetworkmanager makes use of this file. But when it is using `ifup eth0` it does. |
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| 00:47.40 | dansushi | ok |
| 00:47.43 | dansushi | i'll give it a shot |
| 00:47.58 | Shockcore | !kernel |
| 00:48.00 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, linux-next: next-20091102, mainline 2.6: 2.6.32-rc6, snapshot 2.6: 2.6.32-rc5-git6, stable 2.6.31: 2.6.31.5 , stable 2.6.30: 2.6.30.9 , stable 2.6.29: 2.6.29.6 , stable 2.6.27: 2.6.27.38 , stable 2.4.37: 2.4.37.6 |
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| 00:50.11 | format_c | dansushi, do you understand german? |
| 00:51.07 | Shockcore | !updatedebian |
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| 00:51.15 | Shockcore | !kernelupdate |
| 00:51.27 | abrotman | Shockcore: msg the bot |
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| 00:52.53 | Shockcore | is there a way to install linux image 2.6.31 ? |
| 00:52.59 | Shockcore | backports? |
| 00:53.15 | abrotman | !tell Shockcore about bpo |
| 00:53.32 | dansushi | format_c: what is flush-mail ? I see it used in the example for static addresses in the man for interfaces, but it never explains what it is |
| 00:53.44 | abrotman | Shockcore: that has a .30 |
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| 00:53.56 | Shockcore | i want latest :) |
| 00:54.22 | abrotman | so compile it |
| 00:54.28 | dansushi | format_c: and no, sorry I don't know german, though I do know french |
| 00:55.09 | Shockcore | whats the command that installs into menu.lst as well? |
| 00:55.23 | kampasky | 2/win 15 |
| 00:56.27 | format_c | good question |
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| 00:58.00 | abrotman | Shockcore: you shouldn't be compiling a kernel |
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| 00:58.30 | Shockcore | i know make menuconfig or make oldconfig |
| 00:58.44 | Shockcore | but i was using some command before for easier maintenance |
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| 01:00.15 | dansushi | format_c: I've edited interfaces and rebooted, and now ifconfig tells me that my ip address is 192.168.1.4 (the one that I wanted), but I'm not getting any internet |
| 01:00.17 | format_c | dansushi, but normally you can ignore it |
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| 01:01.23 | syslq | dansushi, is your gateway set? your dns's? |
| 01:01.27 | format_c | dansushi, you need to set a default route. your /etc/resolv.conf should contain a valid dns server as well. Mostly you home router IP |
| 01:01.49 | syslq | format_c, OMG, we think so alike, its amazing :| |
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| 01:04.32 | dansushi | syslq: in man interfaces i don't see a part to ad a DNS |
| 01:04.55 | syslq | dansushi, resolv.conf |
| 01:04.55 | dansushi | is that only in /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 01:04.59 | syslq | yes |
| 01:05.30 | syslq | dansushi, nameserver 192.168.1.1 |
| 01:05.40 | syslq | dansushi, well ip is your router or other dns |
| 01:06.00 | dansushi | syslq: nameserver isn't an actual nameserver anymore? |
| 01:06.15 | syslq | dansushi, well it is :) |
| 01:06.15 | lotus-blade | I am running an older computer. I found progeny that works with it, but I can not get my nc100 nic to work |
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| 01:06.24 | dansushi | it was already there as the regular nameserver that I use |
| 01:06.33 | syslq | dansushi, that is fine |
| 01:06.42 | dansushi | ok |
| 01:06.57 | syslq | lotus-blade, define cant get to work? Does system sees your interface? |
| 01:07.03 | dansushi | maybe all i needed to do was add gateway |
| 01:07.11 | syslq | dansushi, mhm |
| 01:08.33 | lotus-blade | when I run the config tool it sees the nic, but when it deos the ifup for eth0 it says no such device |
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| 01:09.12 | syslq | lotus-blade, is it defined in interfaces? |
| 01:09.42 | syslq | lotus-blade, /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 01:10.38 | format_c | dansushi, ne next question is, if knetworkmanager uses this settings now as fallback. |
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| 01:11.21 | dansushi | yeah |
| 01:11.39 | dansushi | computer still booting, has to check filesystem, mounted too many times |
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| 01:12.33 | markybob | that's what she said |
| 01:12.38 | format_c | dansushi, :p But some things need to be perfomed in a regular fashion |
| 01:12.55 | dansushi | lol |
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| 01:15.06 | dansushi | ok, internet still not working |
| 01:15.16 | dansushi | format_c: but ip is the one i want |
| 01:15.26 | format_c | ok let see what's exactly the problem |
| 01:16.21 | format_c | first lets check weather your interface is ip |
| 01:16.23 | format_c | up |
| 01:16.43 | format_c | # ifconfig eth0 | grep UP |
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| 01:17.05 | format_c | does that show a resulting line? |
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| 01:17.19 | dansushi | interfaces: http://pastebin.com/m1ca6a391 |
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| 01:17.30 | dansushi | jus for your aid |
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| 01:18.25 | format_c | dansushi, pls perfom the above command combination |
| 01:18.39 | format_c | and report if a resulting line shows up or not? |
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| 01:18.49 | dansushi | i am, i just need to reset because i was using a wireless network for the pastebin |
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| 01:20.54 | lotus-blade | my nic is there, but it has no device listed |
| 01:21.05 | lotus-blade | other then eth0 |
| 01:21.06 | dansushi | format_c: UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 |
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| 01:21.37 | format_c | dansushi, fine. Next lets check if it has the correct address beeing assigned... |
| 01:21.50 | format_c | # ifconfig eth0 | grep inet |
| 01:22.26 | lotus-blade | eth0 deos not appear under ifconfig |
| 01:22.41 | dansushi | inet address:192.168.1.4 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 |
| 01:23.07 | dansushi | inet6 addr: fe80::225:bf..................... Scope:Link |
| 01:23.10 | format_c | lotus-blade, sorry for confusing. I talked to dansushi . But just a guess. Try `ifconfig eth0 up` |
| 01:23.31 | format_c | dansushi, fine next check if you default route has been set correctly: |
| 01:23.41 | format_c | # route -n | grep ^0.0.0.0 |
| 01:23.42 | dansushi | I'm having to type this in from the other computer, so forgive me for not typing the rest of that string of numbers and letters |
| 01:23.58 | format_c | dansushi, np |
| 01:24.11 | dansushi | without the ^? |
| 01:24.17 | format_c | nope with |
| 01:24.22 | dansushi | oh |
| 01:24.33 | dansushi | ok, with the ^ shows nothing |
| 01:24.37 | dansushi | without i have something |
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| 01:24.43 | lotus-blade | device not found |
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| 01:25.03 | format_c | damn wrong keyshortcut |
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| 01:25.36 | format_c | ok could you pls nopaste the complete `route -n` output? |
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| 01:25.45 | format_c | there might be the problem |
| 01:25.48 | format_c | located |
| 01:26.05 | lotus-blade | "/etc/network/interfaces": iface eth0 inet dhcp hostname gandolf |
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| 01:27.06 | dansushi | Kernel IP routing table |
| 01:27.06 | dansushi | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 01:27.06 | dansushi | 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
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| 01:27.48 | format_c | dansushi, as asumed at the beginning your computer is missing a default route. |
| 01:28.15 | dansushi | format_c: ok, so what does that mean? |
| 01:28.17 | format_c | normaly the gateway statement in the interfaces file should take care about it. |
| 01:28.32 | format_c | dansushi, what is the ip address of your router? |
| 01:29.02 | dansushi | 192.168.1.1 |
| 01:29.24 | format_c | dansushi, let us add a default route manually just for test |
| 01:29.36 | dansushi | ok, how to do that? |
| 01:29.46 | markybob | sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1 ifacehere |
| 01:29.47 | format_c | lotus-blade, pls nopaste the output of `cat /proc/net/dev` |
| 01:30.00 | format_c | markybob, said it |
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| 01:30.19 | format_c | ifacehere can be omitted |
| 01:30.43 | dansushi | format_c: ok, i did that |
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| 01:31.06 | format_c | is now `# route -n | grep ^0.0.0.0` showing a resulting line? |
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| 01:31.29 | dansushi | 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 01:31.57 | dansushi | format_c: internet now works |
| 01:31.59 | format_c | dansushi, ok next try IP connectivity |
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| 01:32.12 | format_c | dansushi, I'm not finished yet |
| 01:32.13 | dansushi | i'm at google |
| 01:32.18 | dansushi | oh, i know |
| 01:32.18 | format_c | ok |
| 01:32.21 | dansushi | i'm just telling you |
| 01:32.21 | format_c | then you're done |
| 01:32.25 | dansushi | wait |
| 01:32.27 | dansushi | lol |
| 01:32.34 | dansushi | how do i get it to do that manually? |
| 01:32.39 | format_c | dansushi, I like a deterministic way to proove things |
| 01:32.42 | markybob | edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 01:33.09 | dansushi | markybob: but what do i add? |
| 01:33.14 | format_c | dansushi, pls paste your interfaces file again |
| 01:33.24 | dansushi | interfaces: http://pastebin.com/m1ca6a391 |
| 01:33.41 | markybob | dansushi, the man page gives you examples |
| 01:33.53 | dansushi | but i don't know what i need to add! |
| 01:34.08 | markybob | ...thus looking at examples would be helpful... |
| 01:34.19 | format_c | markybob, do you know what the flush-mail keyword means mentioned in that man-page? |
| 01:34.46 | markybob | format_c, that was only important back in the days where people relied on fetchmail :P things are different |
| 01:34.54 | dansushi | i mean, that "route" command fixed it, but i don't know what that means for me. |
| 01:35.06 | format_c | markybob, ah fetchmail. thanks. |
| 01:35.22 | format_c | dansushi, have you pasted your interfaces file again? |
| 01:35.32 | dansushi | the link is right up there |
| 01:35.39 | dansushi | 20:33:29 |
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| 01:35.57 | dansushi | format_c: interfaces: http://pastebin.com/m1ca6a391 |
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| 01:37.09 | format_c | dansushi, looks good. But In my interfaces file, the `auto eth0` line is missing but working fine. |
| 01:37.18 | format_c | could you try to remove that line and reboot? |
| 01:37.27 | dansushi | format_c: ok |
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| 01:38.25 | format_c | lotus-blade, did you paste the output of the /proc file ? |
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| 01:39.41 | dansushi | format_c: not working |
| 01:39.55 | dansushi | format_c: are you going to be here in about 3 hours? I need to go somewhere |
| 01:39.57 | format_c | grrr the default route missing again? |
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| 01:40.13 | format_c | it's 2:40 AM I guess not |
| 01:40.23 | dansushi | format_c: ah, ok |
| 01:40.29 | dansushi | yeah, the default route is missing again |
| 01:40.39 | dansushi | i just added it again and now it works |
| 01:40.53 | dansushi | i guess my ony issue is that i need to find a way to make that happen automatically |
| 01:41.23 | format_c | I'm here as long as my glas of red wine lasts ;) |
| 01:41.51 | dansushi | lol |
| 01:42.18 | dansushi | format_c: well, if you can think of a way i can have that happen at boot or something i can edit in my interfaces file, just paste it here |
| 01:42.22 | dansushi | i have to leave now though |
| 01:42.26 | dansushi | thanks a lot for your help! |
| 01:42.32 | dansushi | bye |
| 01:42.52 | format_c | take care |
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| 01:43.33 | dansushi | oh, and markybob, if you know what i can add, that would be a big help |
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| 01:52.44 | lotus-blade | i can't do that until that computer has usb support |
| 01:53.39 | peterrooney | I'm having all sound stop when I switch away from my X session to vt1 - media players continue as usual, just no audio output. how can I have sound remain active? |
| 01:53.42 | lotus-blade | I have no usb to use pen drive |
| 01:53.50 | lotus-blade | and no network |
| 01:54.04 | lotus-blade | sorry wife was typing for me |
| 01:54.29 | lotus-blade | I will tell you what you need if you let me know what you are looking for |
| 01:55.25 | format_c | lotus-blade, please forgive me when I'm a bit confused |
| 01:55.35 | abrotman | lotus-blade: you are trying to fix which problem? |
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| 01:56.37 | ktwilight[m] | is it possible to search which packages have been downloaded from which deb source? |
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| 01:57.03 | abrotman | !tell ktwilight[m] about which repo |
| 01:57.37 | ktwilight[m] | thanks abrotman :) |
| 01:57.48 | format_c | ?which repo |
| 01:58.04 | format_c | mhh what says dpgk ? |
| 01:58.25 | lotus-blade | abrotman: getting my nic to work |
| 01:58.56 | abrotman | lotus-blade: is it PCI or ISA or PCMCIA? |
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| 02:00.38 | lotus-blade | PCI |
| 02:00.41 | nsadmin | give the one line among the many lines of "lspci -nn" which describes your card |
| 02:01.17 | nsadmin | you'll get like 40 lines or maybe less out of that command, look for one line |
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| 02:01.31 | abrotman | nsadmin: he said it's an old computer .. |
| 02:01.49 | nsadmin | but he said pci too... |
| 02:02.13 | abrotman | yeah .. he said |
| 02:02.19 | nsadmin | maybe it is that old... but it's worth a shot I suppose |
| 02:02.22 | ugly | awhile back I installed a dvdripping package but I cannot for the life of me remember the name, and apt-cache search isn't making it easy to narrow down. It's a commandline package, and supports x264 - anyone know what it could be? :P |
| 02:02.28 | abrotman | dvdrip ? |
| 02:02.31 | abrotman | dvdbackup ? |
| 02:02.31 | ugly | no |
| 02:03.00 | abrotman | you sure it was in debian and not debian-multimedia ? |
| 02:03.27 | ugly | good question |
| 02:03.29 | ugly | :P |
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| 02:03.46 | ugly | dammit |
| 02:03.47 | ugly | haha |
| 02:03.55 | ugly | where is this thing |
| 02:04.34 | ugly | h264enc! that was it |
| 02:04.40 | ugly | recommended btw :P |
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| 02:07.22 | nsadmin | lotus-blade btw are you running linux now? on this machine you're trying to get the nic working? |
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| 02:13.48 | lotus-blade | yes |
| 02:14.16 | lotus-blade | bridgecom: unknown device 0985 rev 11 |
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| 02:15.23 | lotus-blade | running progeny debian. I know, old version, but old comp |
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| 02:15.56 | abrotman | lotus-blade: progeny is not Debian ... please install Debian |
| 02:16.13 | abrotman | progeny hasn't been released in like 6-8 years? |
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| 02:16.32 | abrotman | lotus-blade: how old is this computer? |
| 02:16.57 | lotus-blade | an old pavillion befor they bought compaq |
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| 02:17.08 | abrotman | lotus-blade: get the lenny netinst, please |
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| 02:17.45 | lotus-blade | will that give me the gui @ time of install? |
| 02:17.50 | abrotman | if you use CD1 it will |
| 02:17.56 | abrotman | or DVD1 |
| 02:18.00 | abrotman | though i doubt it has a DVD drive |
| 02:18.56 | abrotman | ftp://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.3/i386/bt-cd/debian-503-i386-CD-1.iso.torrent .. if you have bittorrent |
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| 02:20.15 | tonsofpcs | thanks abrotman, that worked :) |
| 02:22.35 | abrotman | tonsofpcs: what did? |
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| 02:23.20 | lotus-blade | wiil it support the intel i810 video card? |
| 02:23.23 | abrotman | yes |
| 02:23.49 | lotus-blade | I know in other linux flavors they got rid of that support |
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| 02:24.24 | tonsofpcs | abrotman: flash 9 :) |
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| 02:25.09 | abrotman | tonsofpcs: oh .. sorry to hear that :) |
| 02:25.16 | abrotman | lotus-blade: no they didn't |
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| 02:26.23 | tonsofpcs | abrotman: the system is now live and in a display environment where likely no one will touch it except an occasional reboot |
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| 02:26.39 | abrotman | tonsofpcs: you're making me feel dirty |
| 02:26.55 | tonsofpcs | abrotman: i can make you feel dirtier in a pm by telling you what system it drives |
| 02:27.03 | abrotman | what system? you mean OS? |
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| 02:27.10 | tonsofpcs | no, i mean what this is a control system for |
| 02:27.24 | abrotman | tonsofpcs: i'll just assume it's some manufacturing setup |
| 02:27.29 | rumpsy | !hi |
| 02:27.29 | dpkg | hello, rumpsy |
| 02:27.34 | tonsofpcs | you can assume wrong all you want :) |
| 02:28.04 | simonrvn | for cameras? |
| 02:29.13 | tonsofpcs | it controls more power than a large home consumes. |
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| 02:29.36 | simonrvn | power station? |
| 02:29.57 | tonsofpcs | again, you can assume wrong all you want |
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| 02:30.11 | simonrvn | transformer station |
| 02:30.44 | simonrvn | i have nothing to do right now ;) |
| 02:30.51 | tonsofpcs | lol |
| 02:30.58 | tonsofpcs | simonrvn: you can help me look for a tower case :) |
| 02:31.19 | simonrvn | garbage day ;) |
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| 02:31.37 | simonrvn | ..in a reseidential neighbourhood, or near a uni. |
| 02:31.42 | simonrvn | resid* |
| 02:32.28 | abrotman | luckily it's got a flash based control program |
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| 02:32.35 | abrotman | get it .. flash .. electricity .. flash .. |
| 02:32.45 | simonrvn | *groan* |
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| 02:34.29 | tonsofpcs | abrotman: it's even got a touch screen for a front panel control! |
| 02:34.51 | format_c | abrotman, just from my intrest: what time is it at your site? |
| 02:35.06 | lotus-blade | ok here is anouther one. Rockwell riptide combo modem and sound card. is there a driver for this? I have never even heard of this |
| 02:35.19 | gutsy | hi everybody, is there a package that can manage each network card seperately like in windows? |
| 02:35.26 | abrotman | lotus-blade: did you get that installer yet? |
| 02:35.39 | tonsofpcs | lotus-blade: sounds like a rockwell soft modem chipset that has a sound card to connect voice for voice modem operations |
| 02:35.46 | abrotman | format_c: 930 |
| 02:35.49 | lotus-blade | downloading the cd now |
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| 02:36.19 | simonrvn | gutsy: editor /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:36.33 | simonrvn | man ifupdown |
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| 02:36.55 | format_c | abrotman, somewhere in china or australia? |
| 02:36.59 | simonrvn | better than 'windows' |
| 02:37.09 | rumpsy | !hey |
| 02:37.10 | dpkg | Hello |
| 02:37.25 | gutsy | thanks |
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| 02:37.48 | markybob_ | seriously? your nick is gutsy and you're in #debian? |
| 02:37.50 | format_c | simon, gutsy man interfaces describes the syntax of the file itself |
| 02:38.16 | abrotman | rumpsy: stop with the bot, it's getting old |
| 02:38.22 | abrotman | format_c: PM |
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| 02:38.34 | rumpsy | okay, abrot |
| 02:38.42 | abrotman | markybob_: he is .. 'gutsy' ? :) |
| 02:38.42 | format_c | ah ok. somewhere at the east coast |
| 02:38.49 | simonrvn | i know... |
| 02:38.58 | abrotman | stops with bad puns |
| 02:39.18 | smacnay | hmm, I cannot seem to authenticate a vnc connection to a machine on the local net. |
| 02:39.32 | smacnay | I get a password prompt but no connection. |
| 02:39.36 | gutsy | markybob_: what's wrong with me being in debian? |
| 02:40.04 | markybob_ | !ubuntu |
| 02:40.04 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 02:40.06 | Gun_Smoke | your nick would imply you're running something from the buntu folks |
| 02:40.15 | Gun_Smoke | gutsy: ^^ |
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| 02:40.47 | rumpsy | hey LtL |
| 02:41.29 | gutsy | markybob_: i have both debian and ubuntu installed on my system |
| 02:41.33 | format_c | thought ubuntu is a african synonym for "can't configure debian" ;) |
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| 02:42.12 | simonrvn | ... |
| 02:42.18 | rumpsy | nick color |
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| 02:43.26 | racecar56 | what can i do if a file (it's a tar.gz) gets corrupted due to fsck? |
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| 02:43.41 | gutsy | Gun_Smoke: what???, i have both OS on the system |
| 02:43.50 | markybob | racecar56, be thankful that you have backups |
| 02:44.04 | racecar56 | markybob: :D |
| 02:44.07 | racecar56 | markybob: so... |
| 02:44.10 | racecar56 | markybob: where? |
| 02:44.38 | markybob | !backups |
| 02:44.38 | dpkg | I don't need no steenkin backups. However, I'm sure at least two other mes in parallel dimensions do, so I'm probably good to go. Hopefully the other mes in the other dimensions aren't counting on me to keep backups. Those idiots. <SlayerXP> there are two types of people in this world, those who take my advice regarding RAID and backups, and those who cry when they lose their data, or see <things to backup>, or <qotd126>, <flw40> |
| 02:44.52 | gutsy | Gun_Smoke: so, i could back up and reload the image at will!!! not relying on live cd (too slow) |
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| 02:48.39 | rumpsy | debian rocks |
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| 02:49.18 | racecar56 | that's one thing for sure |
| 02:49.26 | format_c | gn8 |
| 02:49.31 | Titan8990 | !start a distro war |
| 02:49.31 | dpkg | Ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'. |
| 02:49.38 | racecar56 | lol |
| 02:49.38 | Titan8990 | my favorite |
| 02:49.46 | racecar56 | funny |
| 02:49.48 | format_c | ha I knew it |
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| 02:50.11 | rumpsy | screen |
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| 02:50.28 | format_c | bye folks |
| 02:50.41 | Unsecur3d | I have a problem with booting the installation cd from my iMac |
| 02:50.47 | Unsecur3d | it just won't load it would show up an error |
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| 02:54.14 | racecar56 | :| |
| 02:54.27 | Titan8990 | !error |
| 02:54.27 | dpkg | user error at console, abort, retry, fail? see also <don't work> |
| 02:54.42 | Titan8990 | Unsecur3d: what error? |
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| 02:55.18 | abrotman | Unsecur3d: note there is also a Debian PPC channel on OFTC |
| 02:57.15 | Unsecur3d | abrotman i'll tell you right now, let me reboot |
| 02:57.28 | Unsecur3d | i just created a new iso too just in case the one i previously had was messed up let me reboot the box |
| 02:57.39 | abrotman | burn it slow |
| 02:57.55 | Unsecur3d | im about to create a netinstall |
| 02:57.57 | Unsecur3d | and try that |
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| 02:58.09 | Unsecur3d | when i choose the option c to start from the cdroom at the Bootstrap |
| 02:58.18 | Unsecur3d | the screen gets blank and it sends me back to the same place |
| 02:58.25 | Unsecur3d | like 3 times |
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| 02:59.09 | Unsecur3d | then it says DEFAULT CATCH!, code=fffffff6 at SRR0: method <draw-rectangle> not found; ihandle=ffbc34c0 phandle=ff90d120 |
| 02:59.17 | Unsecur3d | then it wont pass from there |
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| 03:02.04 | Unsecur3d | any guesses |
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| 03:04.44 | Unsecur3d | ... |
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| 03:08.18 | abrotman | Unsecur3d: with which ISO ? |
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| 03:09.43 | smacnay | is there a current issue with rred or libc-2.10.1 in Deb sid? |
| 03:10.14 | smacnay | My "aptitude update" is seg faulting. |
| 03:10.16 | Unsecur3d | ppc |
| 03:10.24 | Unsecur3d | latest stable release\ |
| 03:10.34 | Unsecur3d | 5.x |
| 03:10.49 | Unsecur3d | 5.0.3 |
| 03:10.52 | abrotman | !ppc |
| 03:10.52 | dpkg | somebody said ppc was is short for <powerpc>, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ or visit #debianppc |
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| 03:13.09 | Unsecur3d | thx dpkg |
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| 03:14.17 | rumpsy__ | hey abrotman |
| 03:14.59 | Unsecur3d | geez no life at that channel |
| 03:15.22 | abrotman | rumpsy__: it's not funny |
| 03:15.31 | abrotman | Unsecur3d: you might have more luck tomorrow morning |
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| 03:16.27 | Unsecur3d | i guess |
| 03:16.36 | Unsecur3d | ima try the netinstall tonight tho |
| 03:16.44 | Unsecur3d | c if it does anything |
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| 03:23.14 | racecar56 | how do i get direct rendering to work? i'm using intel 845g on lenny, and here is my xorg.conf: http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f4ee2395b |
| 03:23.25 | Unsecur3d | oh well |
| 03:23.28 | racecar56 | glxinfo|grep direct says no direct rendering O_o |
| 03:23.31 | Unsecur3d | how about configuring the dhcp over debian ppc :D |
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| 03:23.55 | Unsecur3d | ? |
| 03:24.01 | Unsecur3d | need dhcp working, it's not either |
| 03:24.30 | pickcoder | when the installer starts, type "expert GUI" or just "expert" to have direct control over the installer steps |
| 03:24.30 | rumpsy__ | hey mzz it works |
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| 03:28.17 | Gm4n | So I'm trying to compile something on my intel x64 system that worked on my i386 system, and it's complaining that /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.3.2/crtbeginT.o needs to be recompiled with -fPIC. Ideas? |
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| 03:29.26 | pickcoder | Gm4n: you may want install the ia32 libs |
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| 03:30.04 | Gm4n | I'm assuming you mean ia32-libs? |
| 03:30.08 | pickcoder | yeah |
| 03:30.27 | pickcoder | though I may be off in left field |
| 03:30.38 | Gm4n | the problem is I'm compiling a library, which will need to be used by another process, and I really want that process to be 64bit |
| 03:31.30 | pickcoder | ah |
| 03:31.34 | pickcoder | yeah I'm out |
| 03:31.46 | pickcoder | -fPIC is position independeny code |
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| 03:31.58 | pickcoder | http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Program-Library-HOWTO/shared-libraries.html |
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| 03:32.14 | pickcoder | section 3.4 |
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| 03:33.05 | pickcoder | ~independent |
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| 03:37.45 | xhairball | smacnay: Did it start tonight? |
| 03:37.55 | smacnay | hmm, cannot update with aptitude or apt-get - running "aptitude update... xhairball yes |
| 03:38.41 | abrotman | smacnay: unstable ? |
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| 03:38.51 | smacnay | my error message is usually something like: rred[5946]: segfault at 7fffcb920ff8 ip 00007f39e39be61a sp 00007fffcb920ff0 error 6 in libc-2.10.1.so[7f39e395b000+14a000] |
| 03:38.58 | abrotman | smacnay: you're not the only one |
| 03:39.07 | smacnay | abrotman, yep - and that is what I expect with sid - |
| 03:39.20 | smacnay | just seeing if anyone else is having issues... |
| 03:39.40 | abrotman | smacnay: the one guy said it was a bad ipv6 .. another said cupt update fixed .. |
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| 03:40.37 | smacnay | abrotman, ok - cupt is not installed here |
| 03:40.46 | smacnay | never has been |
| 03:40.51 | Gm4n | anyone else have ideas on how to make my compile behave? |
| 03:41.11 | abrotman | smacnay: i didn't really follow the conversation |
| 03:41.16 | abrotman | reads backscroll |
| 03:41.32 | smacnay | has no backscroll to read right now... :( |
| 03:41.37 | pickcoder | Gm4n: did you turn the PIC option on? |
| 03:41.59 | Gm4n | no, because the makefile is full of -static |
| 03:42.01 | smacnay | abrotman, I think that something must have updated and not worked. |
| 03:42.04 | Gm4n | should I anyway? |
| 03:42.43 | Unsecur3d | great :) |
| 03:42.43 | Unsecur3d | got the network going |
| 03:42.43 | Unsecur3d | :) |
| 03:42.44 | abrotman | smacnay: try commenting out sources until it works ? |
| 03:42.44 | xhairball | smacnay: I'm seeing the same problem on a machine running testing. It just started tonight as well. |
| 03:42.55 | abrotman | smacnay: tried aptitude ? |
| 03:42.58 | smacnay | abrotman, I did comment out one set and uncomment another - I will try commenting out all sources. |
| 03:43.14 | smacnay | abrotman, I have tried both - I usually use aptitude and did try apt-get |
| 03:44.06 | abrotman | smacnay: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=545694 .. maybe? |
| 03:44.18 | smacnay | wow - my apt keeps trying to get from ftp.us.debian.org but that is not in my sources.list file |
| 03:44.52 | abrotman | smacnay: which version of apt do you hvae installed ? |
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| 03:45.45 | smacnay | abrotman, 0.7.24 - the same as the one in the bug report. |
| 03:45.57 | abrotman | smacnay: the one they say is fixed |
| 03:46.29 | smacnay | abrotman, yes |
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| 03:47.14 | smacnay | abrotman, something I noticed... all apt sources are commented out and I still see aptitude connecting to ftp.us.debian.org.... is there secondary sources.list file somewhere? |
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| 03:48.17 | abrotman | smacnay: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ? |
| 03:48.39 | smacnay | ah... thanks |
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| 03:49.46 | abrotman | smacnay: you could try cleaning out /var/lib/apt/lists/ |
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| 03:50.21 | smacnay | abrotman, nothing there... -at least no files |
| 03:50.28 | abrotman | smacnay: none at all ? |
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| 03:50.49 | smacnay | abrotman, sorry - yes - I as looking in the subdirectories... |
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| 03:51.23 | abrotman | smacnay: find /var/lib/apt/lists/ .. nothing there at all ? |
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| 03:51.39 | smacnay | abrotman, actually, under /var/lib/apt/lists, I have no files excepta lock file. |
| 03:52.04 | abrotman | are you using aptitude or apt-get ? |
| 03:52.06 | smacnay | abrotman, and an empty "partial" dir. |
| 03:52.17 | smacnay | abrotman, aptitude almost all of the time |
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| 03:52.54 | smacnay | abrotman, under /var/lib/aptitude I have pkgstates and pkgstates.old files. |
| 03:53.03 | yellowrooster | how can i shutdown in terminal? (shutdown nor poweroff commands work) |
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| 03:53.29 | abrotman | smacnay: did you comment out all your sources |
| 03:53.39 | abrotman | yellowrooster: how old is the machine? poweroff should work |
| 03:53.59 | yellowrooster | abrotman, 2007 |
| 03:54.03 | smacnay | abrotman, yes and now there is no failure... I think I will apply the patch listed in the bug report. |
| 03:54.04 | yellowrooster | abrotman: it doesn't |
| 03:54.06 | rumpsy | uptime of yellowrooster extends to 72hrs |
| 03:54.14 | abrotman | smacnay: so it works fine ? |
| 03:54.24 | yellowrooster | rumpsy: ??? |
| 03:54.25 | abrotman | rumpsy: just be quiet |
| 03:54.31 | smacnay | abrotman, it runs but of course no packages are read or updated. |
| 03:54.42 | abrotman | smacnay: apt-get update ? |
| 03:54.58 | Unsecur3d | any good sources for powerpc 5.x ? |
| 03:55.03 | abrotman | yellowrooster: ignore rumpsy .. there's something wrong with him |
| 03:55.10 | abrotman | Unsecur3d: did you get it installed ? |
| 03:55.42 | Unsecur3d | nah |
| 03:55.48 | Unsecur3d | i fixed the network on it instead |
| 03:55.51 | smacnay | abrotman, interesting - getting rid of the ftp.us.debian.org source from /var/lib/apt/... seems to have solved it. |
| 03:55.52 | abrotman | okay then .. |
| 03:55.54 | Unsecur3d | it was so much easier :d |
| 03:55.59 | yellowrooster | abrotman: he must be using the word "uptime" this way: lxsession-logout |
| 03:56.01 | abrotman | smacnay: and if you add it back ? |
| 03:56.06 | yellowrooster | http://www.answers.com/uptime#Hacker_Slang_d_ans <--- I meant this way |
| 03:56.10 | smacnay | abrotman, let me try that |
| 03:56.19 | yellowrooster | abrotman: so how can i shutdown comp? |
| 03:56.25 | abrotman | yellowrooster: that's why i said to ignore him |
| 03:56.33 | abrotman | yellowrooster: what happens when you type 'poweroff' ? |
| 03:56.55 | abrotman | Unsecur3d: the sources you have are probably sufficient |
| 03:56.59 | yellowrooster | abrotman: both commands give "command not found" |
| 03:57.05 | abrotman | yellowrooster: you have to be root |
| 03:57.35 | Unsecur3d | it says that the signatures are invalid due to an expiredkey |
| 03:57.36 | Unsecur3d | :x |
| 03:57.58 | smacnay | abrotman, sorry, I removed the sources from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/apt-spy.list - I will try adding them back to see what happens |
| 03:57.58 | abrotman | Unsecur3d: aptitude install debian-archive-keyring |
| 03:58.43 | yellowrooster | abrotman: which "tags" / suffixes go after shutdown |
| 03:58.44 | yellowrooster | ? |
| 03:58.48 | Unsecur3d | still |
| 03:58.56 | abrotman | yellowrooster: just type 'poweroff' .. it will turn off the machine |
| 03:59.09 | abrotman | Unsecur3d: aptitude update ; apt-get update .. try again |
| 03:59.13 | rumpsy | or init 0 |
| 03:59.17 | yellowrooster | abrotman: is it safe to just use poweroff? |
| 03:59.17 | rumpsy | it may helps you |
| 03:59.28 | abrotman | yellowrooster: if that's what you're trying to do, yes |
| 03:59.31 | yellowrooster | will the comp wait until it's safe before it powers off |
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| 03:59.36 | Unsecur3d | still :x |
| 03:59.39 | Unsecur3d | wow |
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| 03:59.44 | smacnay | abrotman, hmm, seems to have worked as well. |
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| 03:59.52 | abrotman | yellowrooster: yes, it's just like choosing 'shutdown', except that it will use ACPI to turn off the power at the end |
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| 04:00.11 | spradnyesh | hello! |
| 04:00.16 | yellowrooster | abrotman: is there a quick way to add a shorcut (clickable icon) to poweroff? |
| 04:00.18 | Unsecur3d | :x |
| 04:00.21 | Unsecur3d | lol |
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| 04:00.32 | Unsecur3d | anyways of just getting new sources ? :x |
| 04:00.33 | Unsecur3d | :D |
| 04:00.38 | spradnyesh | i am on debian unstable, and when i'm doing a 'sudo apt-get update', i'm getting the error:- 'E: Method rred has died unexpectedly!' |
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| 04:01.00 | smacnay | abrotman, maybe it was some weird network glitch - seems to work now with all the original sources referenced. |
| 04:01.00 | spradnyesh | this is the first time i've encountered this error. searching online did not give any helpful results |
| 04:01.03 | abrotman | spradnyesh: talk to smacnay |
| 04:01.08 | spradnyesh | can someone please help me here? |
| 04:01.17 | abrotman | smacnay: no, that's not it .. it's smoething with a pdiff file |
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| 04:01.45 | smacnay | spradnyesh, I had that trouble but am not sure what I just did to solve it. |
| 04:02.02 | abrotman | spradnyesh: try to comment out all your sources; aptitude update; re-enable them one by one |
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| 04:02.10 | spradnyesh | abrotman: lemme try that |
| 04:02.20 | abrotman | is sure there is a better solution somewhere |
| 04:02.33 | Unsecur3d | :x |
| 04:02.43 | smacnay | spradnyesh, I did comment out all of my sources in both /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/apt-spy.list and re-ran aptitude or apt-get. |
| 04:02.43 | Unsecur3d | ok so abrotman any other tips ? |
| 04:02.51 | abrotman | Unsecur3d: that should work |
| 04:02.58 | Unsecur3d | what should work ? |
| 04:03.03 | smacnay | abrotman, sorry - I was too slow on the typing there |
| 04:03.04 | abrotman | Unsecur3d: you can technially ignore the error |
| 04:03.11 | Unsecur3d | but it wont update then |
| 04:03.34 | Unsecur3d | oh wait nvm |
| 04:03.45 | abrotman | working now? |
| 04:03.46 | Unsecur3d | :x |
| 04:03.51 | Unsecur3d | yeah |
| 04:03.53 | Unsecur3d | thanks man |
| 04:03.58 | abrotman | enjoy |
| 04:04.06 | smacnay | spradnyesh, how is it going? |
| 04:04.10 | Unsecur3d | now its updating to a new kernel, i installed this debian on this box like 6 months ago and never used it |
| 04:04.12 | Unsecur3d | :x |
| 04:04.16 | Unsecur3d | thanks abrotman |
| 04:04.18 | Unsecur3d | :) |
| 04:04.21 | smacnay | abrotman, are you still mostly/all console only? |
| 04:04.22 | Unsecur3d | i think ima run a blog from this box :D |
| 04:04.24 | spradnyesh | smacnay: i still get that error on debian unstable |
| 04:04.35 | smacnay | spradnyesh, all sources are commented out? |
| 04:04.43 | spradnyesh | deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free |
| 04:04.46 | abrotman | smacnay: i think you have me confused (well i guess at work I am) |
| 04:04.51 | abrotman | smacnay: at home i'm not though |
| 04:05.00 | spradnyesh | is all that i have in that file (/etc/apt/sources.list). i don't have the other file you mentioned |
| 04:05.27 | smacnay | spradnyesh, did you coment it out (put a # in front of the line)? |
| 04:05.28 | abrotman | spradnyesh: do you normally use aptitude or apt-get ? |
| 04:05.44 | spradnyesh | abrotman: i always use aptitude |
| 04:05.48 | smacnay | spradnyesh, ah, yes - that will be important |
| 04:06.05 | abrotman | spradnyesh: and your /var/lib/apt/lists/ is empty ? |
| 04:06.16 | smacnay | spradnyesh, if everything is commented out, there should be very little feedback after running the update command. |
| 04:06.17 | spradnyesh | smacnay: i tried commenting out _all_ the lines, and did an update; naturally nothing happened |
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| 04:06.35 | smacnay | spradnyesh, nothing meaning no error either? |
| 04:06.47 | spradnyesh | smacnay: yup, no error |
| 04:07.02 | spradnyesh | then i uncommented only the 'debian unstable' line, and the error reappeared |
| 04:07.11 | spradnyesh | and i do have quite some stuff in /var/lib/apt/lists |
| 04:07.13 | abrotman | spradnyesh: oh sorry .. put main/contrib/non-free on separate lines .. enable each separately |
| 04:07.22 | smacnay | spradnyesh, hmm |
| 04:07.24 | spradnyesh | abrotman: i'll try that; a min plz |
| 04:07.28 | abrotman | waves |
| 04:08.24 | xhairball | smacnay: What mirror do your normally use? |
| 04:08.27 | sin7ax | has anyone tried 5.0.3 on an imac g3 yet?? |
| 04:08.51 | spradnyesh | i got that error for main but not for contrib and non-free |
| 04:08.58 | smacnay | I try to use the debian.yorku.ca all the time |
| 04:09.26 | smacnay | xhairball, I also have used (but now commented out) http://ftp3.nrc.ca/debian/ |
| 04:10.38 | spradnyesh | smacnay: i got that error for main but not for contrib and non-free |
| 04:11.04 | spradnyesh | abrotman: you're nick does not autocomplete ??? |
| 04:11.07 | xhairball | smacnay: After I manually deleted the dists from /var/lib/apt/lists, it worked fine. |
| 04:11.17 | xhairball | spradnyesh: he left :) |
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| 04:11.30 | spradnyesh | xhairball: i did not notice that ;) |
| 04:11.44 | spradnyesh | smacnay: should i try clearing stuff from /var/lib/apt/lists? |
| 04:11.51 | xhairball | spradnyesh: Try deleting the ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_* files from /var/lib/apt/lists. Then do an aptitude update. That fixed the problem for me. |
| 04:11.54 | tictac | hmm. rred segfaults. |
| 04:12.08 | xhairball | tictac: ^^^ |
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| 04:13.02 | tictac | i dont use that mirror, so ill substitue the one i use |
| 04:13.09 | smacnay | spradnyesh, I am not sure - but I am guessing these are generated on running update |
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| 04:13.35 | spradnyesh | xhairball: you were correct. removing those files and then doing an update made the error go away |
| 04:13.40 | smacnay | spradnyesh, this is certainly not an area I know much about |
| 04:13.50 | tictac | xhairball: seemed to work for me also. thanks. |
| 04:14.05 | spradnyesh | can someone kindly point me to documentation where i can learn more about what just happened? i mean it did work, but i did not understand why |
| 04:14.46 | adb | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=545694 |
| 04:15.06 | spradnyesh | adb: i'm guessing that was for my benefit; thanks! |
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| 04:17.24 | sin7ax | ...id? |
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| 04:17.49 | markybob | ...id...ls -l....really. wtf :P |
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| 04:20.36 | sin7ax | duh... sorry |
| 04:20.51 | sin7ax | sin7ax error |
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| 04:27.37 | jken146 | Hello. apt-get update throws "E: Method rred has died unexpectedly! // E: Sub-process rred received a segmentation fault." Any ideas as to why (apart from bad RAM)? |
| 04:29.08 | adb | spradnyesh> smacnay: should i try clearing stuff from /var/lib/apt/lists? |
| 04:29.09 | adb | 05:11:<xhairball> spradnyesh: Try deleting the ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_* files from /var/lib/apt/lists. Then do an aptitude update. That fixed the problem for me. |
| 04:29.18 | adb | jken146, ^^ |
| 04:29.44 | jken146 | reads up. Ha! Snap! |
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| 04:31.23 | jimmybgood | jken146: I noticed the pdiffs were larger than the complete package lists - probably corrupt |
| 04:32.07 | jken146 | mhmm |
| 04:32.28 | jken146 | Deleting /var/lib/apt/lists/* fixed it. Thanks |
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| 04:34.00 | simonrvn | um, you need partial/ and lock in there... |
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| 04:34.04 | simonrvn | jken146: |
| 04:34.46 | jken146 | they came back |
| 04:35.08 | jken146 | Actually I left partial there but deleted its contents |
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| 04:36.38 | simonrvn | mm ok |
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| 04:38.36 | jken146 | you're probably right though, I should have left lock alone |
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| 04:48.18 | yellowrooster | how can i see a list of all the groups (e.g. netdev, ssh, crontab, etc.) on a computer? |
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| 04:53.31 | simonrvn | yellowrooster: man getent |
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| 04:54.08 | yellowrooster | simonrvn: i man getent, but i don't get it. |
| 04:54.09 | yellowrooster | 8-( |
| 04:54.41 | simonrvn | yellowrooster: getent --help |
| 04:54.45 | IndyGunFreak | I'm trying to install from a USB drive(business card), and everytime I boot the drive, it lets me choose my language, then it fails because it searches for a CD Rom, and can't find it... |
| 04:58.02 | HorizonX | yellowrooster: getent group might be what you're looking for |
| 04:58.30 | yellowrooster | HorizonX: thanks. just did that. is there a way to find out what group a program is a "member" of? |
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| 05:03.05 | simonrvn | yellowrooster: programs aren't members of groups. they can - technically - get run as any user or group. |
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| 05:05.21 | HorizonX | yes.. I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish, but you could try ps -G id |
| 05:06.16 | HorizonX | they're not going to be mapped in 1:1 manner |
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| 05:07.21 | nirupama | how to mount ntfs partition in linux automatically |
| 05:07.30 | nirupama | also how to do it for normal user |
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| 05:10.45 | IndyGunFreak | has anyone sucessfully installed from a USB drive?.. i get an error when following the FAQ |
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| 05:17.00 | IndyGunFreak | has anyone sucessfully installed from a USB drive?.. i get an error when following the FAQ |
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| 05:18.35 | rjaym | what populates /dev/* disks? the kernel, or some other executable? |
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| 05:18.58 | yellowrooster | how do i change password for a user |
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| 05:20.33 | IndyGunFreak | yellowrooster, are you logged on to the machine? |
| 05:20.43 | yellowrooster | yes. |
| 05:20.56 | yellowrooster | IndyGunFreak: it won't allow me to keep to a short password. Aaagh |
| 05:21.23 | IndyGunFreak | yellowrooster, *pretty sure*.. its system/admin/users and groups... select the user, choose "Unlock" you'll be prompted for the root password, then i think the first tab is to change the password. |
| 05:21.40 | yellowrooster | IndyGunFreak: i'm in terminal |
| 05:21.56 | IndyGunFreak | hmm, i'm not sure on debian. |
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| 05:23.00 | IndyGunFreak | yellowrooster, i know on ubuntu... you would type passwd (username)... obviously subsituting your username for username.. then you'll be prompted to enter and renter a password |
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| 05:24.55 | IndyGunFreak | yellowrooster, that will probably work on Debian.. since ubuntu is based on Debian.... |
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| 05:57.07 | penta | hello, perhaps, someone knows how I can limit numbers of static address on the interface? |
| 05:58.39 | cheako | penta: Like some kind of strange OpenVZ, but one where users can alter there addresses? |
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| 05:59.26 | cheako | Root kills, there is nothing you can do about that. Since root is the only use who can add addresses then this limit is inherently implemented. |
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| 06:00.09 | cheako | "Don' add address to an interface if you don't want to" |
| 06:00.25 | penta | cheako: well, I runs kernel without modules |
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| 06:01.27 | cheako | I'm confused. |
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| 06:02.21 | cheako | Is it even possible to boot w/o modules with any recent kernel? |
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| 06:07.32 | penta | cheako: hm, yes, its confused me too , but it's a testing job fo me e.g. if someone to try add new alias system should ack them kind of "no more then 2 aliases must be on eth1" |
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| 06:11.52 | aravind | is bugs.debian.org down? |
| 06:12.12 | dondelelcaro | aravind: no |
| 06:12.51 | aravind | was trying to access #554349, I am getting a message saying "Sub-process rred received a segmentation fault." when I try an apt-get update. |
| 06:13.07 | aravind | dondelelcaro: times out when I try to get to it... |
| 06:13.25 | dondelelcaro | aravind: use bugs-rietz.debian.org/554349 |
| 06:13.33 | aravind | dondelelcaro: well, the actual site is up, but for some reason accessing that bug just times out. |
| 06:13.34 | dondelelcaro | aravind: one of the machines in the round-robin went down |
| 06:13.50 | aravind | dondelelcaro: okay, will try that. thanks. |
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| 06:14.48 | dondelelcaro | aravind: np |
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| 06:15.25 | aravind | dondelelcaro: weird, same thing.. just hangs when I look that bug up by number. |
| 06:15.57 | BlueG | I'm trying to install on a really old machine that only seems to be supported by syslinux and not isolinux. Can I use some kind of syslinux based floppy to get it to boot into my debian CD? |
| 06:16.52 | dondelelcaro | aravind: it's a big log, so it'll take it a second. |
| 06:18.09 | dondelelcaro | and it doesn't help that the load on rietz is at 110 |
| 06:18.20 | aravind | that must be it. |
| 06:18.45 | aravind | its seems to be giving me some kind of partial response and then just hanging. |
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| 06:20.03 | aravind | dondelelcaro: yeah, its redirecting me to http://bugs-rietz.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=554349, and then just hanging.. |
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| 06:20.31 | dondelelcaro | aravind: right, it's trying to process that log; there are about 100 people attempting to access it |
| 06:20.54 | aravind | hehe, all of us stuck on upgrades :) |
| 06:21.10 | aravind | dondelelcaro: are you one of the admins on it? |
| 06:21.14 | dondelelcaro | yes |
| 06:21.28 | dondelelcaro | well, I'm responsible for the BTS, but I'm not the adminstrator of that machine |
| 06:21.37 | aravind | dondelelcaro: cool! |
| 06:22.09 | aravind | I am assuming its bugzilla behind it.. |
| 06:25.20 | dondelelcaro | nope |
| 06:25.37 | aravind | dondelelcaro: oh okay, what do you use? |
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| 06:25.49 | dondelelcaro | aravind: debbugs |
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| 06:27.04 | aravind | has never heard of it! |
| 06:27.35 | aravind | but looking it up now |
| 06:27.41 | dondelelcaro | it's custom for Debian |
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| 06:29.10 | mhymn | i have a problem with penmount touch device in lenny, it's recognised in system but when i drag the mouse pointer to right it goes to left and vice versa, same thing for up/down and rotaiting clockwise. any idea? |
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| 06:30.13 | aravind | dondelelcaro: I was going to suggest making that bug a static page for now (with all this load), but now that its not bugzilla.. I will just keep my suggestions to myself :) good luck with it. |
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| 06:31.19 | en1gma | hey all is there a debian windows installer that can install debian to a seperate drive entirely with the boot loader on that drive and not on my windows drive like wubi does for ubuntu |
| 06:32.22 | aravind | en1gma: the regular debian installer should do it, just point it at your separate drive.. |
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| 06:33.04 | en1gma | yea i think it still runs the boot loader off the windows drive from what i can see right now |
| 06:33.21 | aravind | en1gma: afaik, you can ask it to leave your boot loader alone |
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| 06:33.54 | en1gma | "nd in the next reboot of the computer, Grub loads and prompts you to either boot into Windows or initiate the Debian installation. " |
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| 06:34.11 | en1gma | aravind it still needs a boot loader though |
| 06:34.17 | en1gma | just not on my windows drive |
| 06:35.30 | aravind | I don't know what to tell you.. unfortunately, I don't have a spare drive to try it on.. disconnect your windows drive and go through the installation :) |
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| 06:36.49 | en1gma | im running the installer right now (first time i ever tried it) im at where you pick your desktop enviroment....if i click next are there more options or does it just start installing |
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| 06:38.10 | aravind | dondelelcaro: if you have access to that bug report, can you tell me if I am pretty much screwed right now or is my system still rescuable? |
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| 06:38.54 | aravind | en1gma: umm.. do it, click it |
| 06:38.58 | aravind | :) |
| 06:39.00 | xyan | is it only me or is the bts down? |
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| 06:39.04 | chalcedony | smiles |
| 06:39.16 | aravind | xyan: its down for all practical purposes |
| 06:39.28 | xyan | great :/ |
| 06:39.41 | en1gma | : |
| 06:39.49 | en1gma | trying to find a youtube video :) |
| 06:40.03 | aravind | xyan: rred segfault? |
| 06:40.17 | xyan | haha, well yeah but i found a solution :) |
| 06:40.28 | aravind | oh yeah, please do share |
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| 06:40.42 | xyan | use -o Acquire::Pdiffs=false in conjunction with apt-get/aptitude |
| 06:40.52 | xyan | its related to pdiff so disabling it helps |
| 06:40.55 | xyan | there you go |
| 06:41.05 | aravind | okay, let me try that |
| 06:41.47 | chalcedony | if i wanted to download debian for a friend with a Quadra series or earlier mac, what do i need to get for him? (a present) |
| 06:42.07 | aravind | xyan: does an update fix it or do we need to keep using that till that rred stuff is fixed? |
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| 06:42.48 | xyan | aravind: i dont know, i used it on update & upgrade |
| 06:42.55 | xyan | guess its only relevant for the update |
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| 06:43.33 | aravind | okay. |
| 06:44.02 | aravind | xyan: thanks for the tip, that worked. |
| 06:44.14 | xyan | aravind: glad to hear that |
| 06:44.21 | xyan | it doesnt on 64bit though |
| 06:44.42 | aravind | xyan: does too, I am on amd64 |
| 06:45.02 | chalcedony | i want to download debian for a friend with a Quadra series or earlier mac, what do i need to get for him? (a present) and from where please? (i'd prefer wget ) |
| 06:45.09 | xyan | oh sure, sorry typo ;-) |
| 06:45.11 | xyan | works like a charm |
| 06:46.07 | xyan | chalcedony: must be great to run denian on a 25mhz box without fpu |
| 06:46.52 | chalcedony | xyan, i guess |
| 06:47.10 | xyan | chalcedony: i dont know what architecture that cpu is, maybe arm? |
| 06:47.20 | chalcedony | i have no idea |
| 06:47.53 | chalcedony | xyan, maybe he's still on, i'll ask |
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| 06:52.18 | xyan | chalcedony: haha nice, its some ancient 8bit cpu (lets call it microcontroller). dont think you can run a recent linux on that |
| 06:52.32 | xyan | maybe debian 2.1 :) |
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| 06:53.51 | chalcedony | xyan, he found this : http://www.jagshouse.com/Linuxm68k.html |
| 06:54.06 | xyan | yeah http://www.mac.linux-m68k.org/ |
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| 06:57.11 | simonrvn | chalcedony: quadra are 68040 |
| 06:57.23 | simonrvn | with an fpu iirc |
| 06:57.41 | chalcedony | simonrvn, ty .. |
| 06:57.46 | simonrvn | holy crap, jagshouse.com is still around? |
| 06:57.50 | chalcedony | tell me what to download? |
| 06:58.09 | simonrvn | m68k debian will run on it. not sure if 2.6 will |
| 06:58.45 | simonrvn | !sarge |
| 06:58.45 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for Debian version 3.1, released June 6th, 2005. Sarge security support ended on 2008-03-31, this release is no longer supported. Sarge users should upgrade to Etch, ask me about <sarge->etch>. Removed from the mirrors; ask me about <archive>, <sarge sources.list>, <sarge-backports>. Get old Sarge ISOs here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/3.1_r8/ http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSarge |
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| 06:58.53 | simonrvn | !woody |
| 06:58.53 | dpkg | hmm... woody is the codename of Debian 3.0, released on July 19, 2002. Ask me about <woody->sarge>. Security support for woody was terminated on 2006-06-30. Woody was archived on 2007-01-10 but ISOs are still available: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/images/3.0_r6/ . Ask me about <archive>, <woody sources.list>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWoody |
| 06:58.59 | darrh00 | rred got segementated during apt-get update, http://paste.debian.net/50645 can this be a bug of apt? |
| 06:59.16 | simonrvn | chalcedony: sarge should go, etch maybe too |
| 06:59.16 | xyan | darrh00: apt-get update -o Acquire::Pdiffs=false |
| 06:59.53 | simonrvn | darrh00: we know. sometimes clearing the files out of /var/lib/apt/lists (and partial/ - leave the lock file there) helps |
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| 07:00.26 | simonrvn | darrh00: 'got a segmentation fault' 'got a segfault' is how you'd say that |
| 07:00.41 | chalcedony | simonrvn, do i need etch ? |
| 07:01.25 | darrh00 | simonrvn:sorry for my poor english.... |
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| 07:02.17 | simonrvn | chalcedony: i'm not sure of the status for the m68k support is in 2.6 kernels. i do believe they're supported, but i'm not sure if it would be worth it (it may help, may not). they're damned slow, takes coupla days - IIRC - do to the install. |
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| 07:02.27 | simonrvn | darrh00: it's ok, was just helping you out |
| 07:02.41 | chalcedony | oh my :( |
| 07:02.42 | chalcedony | well |
| 07:02.54 | simonrvn | darrh00: i'm sure you'd do the same in your language (english isn't mine either, but i do ok in it) |
| 07:02.56 | chalcedony | one of the things my friend was looking at said a *month*! |
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| 07:03.13 | simonrvn | yeh. they're slow. |
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| 07:03.29 | egoTripper88 | !flash |
| 07:03.30 | dpkg | hmm... flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> or <swfdec> for free implementations or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. See also http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 07:03.36 | simonrvn | mine's sitting behind me, unused. |
| 07:03.54 | simonrvn | !tell egoTripper88 -about msg the bot |
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| 07:05.43 | simonrvn | chalcedony: i'd go see the debian wiki for the m68k support |
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| 07:06.24 | chalcedony | i'm looking |
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| 07:09.54 | darrh00 | simonrvn: anyway thank you for the correction, xyan's suggestion works for me.I really should have asked question here before messing around apt myself trying to figure out what's going on. |
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| 07:13.47 | simonrvn | darrh00: cool |
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| 07:20.37 | paipimenta | soo.... I'm typing RHEL on tty1 and I realize that caps lock doesn't work for abcdef in lenny |
| 07:20.41 | paipimenta | or my comp |
| 07:21.26 | paipimenta | is that a lenny bug? couldn't I easily fix that? where can I look at that source? |
| 07:22.03 | paipimenta | I'm sure it has something to do with hex, is that intentional for programming purposes? |
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| 07:24.00 | nsadmin | paipimenta: I'm sure that debian people didn't want people typing RHEL... |
| 07:24.03 | nsadmin | j/k |
| 07:24.27 | nsadmin | what are you typing into? |
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| 07:25.16 | paipimenta | term on tty1 |
| 07:25.35 | nsadmin | what program is behind the term? |
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| 07:25.51 | nsadmin | what are the language settings too |
| 07:25.53 | paipimenta | uh... bash? |
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| 07:26.08 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 07:26.08 | paipimenta | US English |
| 07:26.36 | nsadmin | and g-z is affected by caps lock |
| 07:26.37 | nsadmin | ? |
| 07:26.40 | paipimenta | meaning I think bash, if that's what question you're asking... doesn't happen in xterms |
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| 07:27.17 | paipimenta | yeah, G-Z are fine, numerals and symbols give lower case symbol |
| 07:27.37 | nsadmin | what about shifting a-f? |
| 07:27.54 | paipimenta | works fine... functionality is normal without caps for a-f |
| 07:28.11 | nsadmin | so if you shift f you get F? |
| 07:28.14 | paipimenta | AND shifting with caps for g-z gives lower case |
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| 07:28.59 | nsadmin | this the same on all VCs? |
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| 07:32.26 | paipimenta | yep.... and now tty1 is tied up in "shell returned 127" when I tried to exit vi |
| 07:34.51 | waka | is there a way of getting fortune messages on xterm? |
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| 07:36.02 | waka | if so how do i enable for normal users |
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| 07:40.50 | peterrooney | waka: add a test for $DISPLAY in .bashrc, if it is defined, run fortune. |
| 07:41.29 | nsadmin | then your fortunes will always be gooey... |
| 07:41.48 | peterrooney | waka: to enable it for ALL users, you'd have to edit /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 07:43.04 | peterrooney | waka: i'm sure someone would be able to make a more specific test so it only runs on xterm, and not konsole or gnome-terminal, but I don't know if you need it to be so specific. |
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| 07:48.17 | kaduk | Hi |
| 07:48.38 | kaduk | When I do apt-get update I get E: Method rred has died unexpectedly! |
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| 07:48.44 | kaduk | any help? |
| 07:49.07 | kaduk | Moreover I can't open bug.debian.org to find out whats wrong |
| 07:49.20 | nsadmin | bugs |
| 07:50.02 | nsadmin | why can't you open that? what version of debian? of apt-get? of dpkg? |
| 07:50.27 | kaduk | apt-utils 0.7.24 |
| 07:50.38 | kaduk | dpkg 1.15.4.1 |
| 07:50.38 | dpkg | 1.15 |
| 07:51.01 | nsadmin | you can edit that onto one line yaknow... |
| 07:51.19 | nsadmin | and version of debian? |
| 07:51.31 | kaduk | sid |
| 07:52.37 | nsadmin | you should pastebin your sources.list |
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| 07:53.52 | kaduk | nsadmin, its one line |
| 07:54.01 | kaduk | deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free |
| 07:54.38 | nsadmin | see what happens when you use http instead of ftp |
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| 07:54.52 | waka | thanks peterrooney will try this when i get home |
| 07:55.21 | kaduk | nsadmin, same problem |
| 07:55.43 | nsadmin | you did apt-get update? |
| 07:56.05 | kaduk | nsadmin, this occurs on apt-get updates |
| 07:56.22 | nsadmin | ok, show the new line |
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| 07:56.50 | kaduk | nsadmin, http://pastebin.com/m757c5dc3 |
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| 07:57.50 | kaduk | nsadmin, experimental was commented I uncomented it now |
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| 07:59.45 | nsadmin | I'm stumpped; but whatever it is is localized to this rred |
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| 08:00.08 | nsadmin | do you have a man rred? |
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| 08:03.33 | crazy2k | Can someone recommend an up-to-date guide on security for newbies like me? I want to set up a server at home. No great deal, but I want my home computer to be secured. |
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| 08:04.34 | darrh00 | kaduk: apt-get update -o Acquire::Pdiffs=false ,xyan told me this several hours ago ,it works for me.Or As simonrvn said : we know. sometimes clearing the files out of /var/lib/apt/lists (and partial/ - leave the lock file there) helps |
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| 08:06.04 | gego | Hi. Can anybody tell me if it is possible to mount a raid (built with mdadm) with acl option? |
| 08:06.16 | gego | Or if I'm right to ask this question here? |
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| 08:19.32 | kaduk | nsadmin, no man for rred |
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| 08:20.38 | simonrvn | kaduk: sometimes clearing the files out of /var/lib/apt/lists (and partial/ - leave the lock file there) helps |
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| 08:21.27 | kaduk | simonrvn, ok I moved them out |
| 08:21.35 | simonrvn | rm them |
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| 08:21.40 | kaduk | helped |
| 08:21.46 | kaduk | simonrvn, thanks |
| 08:21.50 | simonrvn | apt-get update -o Acquire::Pdiffs=false |
| 08:22.05 | simonrvn | or aptitude update -o Acquire::Pdiffs=false |
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| 08:22.18 | simonrvn | darrh00 told you earlier |
| 08:23.02 | kaduk | oh right |
| 08:23.11 | kaduk | I was writing e-mail did not see it |
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| 08:49.41 | Darkstart | ciao a tutti |
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| 08:50.38 | krionux | hi |
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| 08:57.00 | Darkstart | my shorewall write all packet that transit on my interface on log file (kernel debug syslog) what i can do? if you want i post with pastebin a log file |
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| 08:57.09 | Darkstart | sorry for my english |
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| 08:58.36 | Darkstart | http://debian.pastebin.com/d3791d001 |
| 08:58.59 | ethanol | does anyone know a simple tutorial on how to get postfix and .forward to play along? |
| 08:59.09 | ethanol | I figure I need to setup an smtp server it can use, somewhere |
| 08:59.14 | ethanol | can't find it in the config files though |
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| 08:59.57 | smhar | is http://bugs.debian.org down? |
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| 09:01.54 | milestone | hi all is debian sarge end-of-life? |
| 09:02.00 | milestone | i mean officially? |
| 09:02.06 | themill | milestone: well past it. |
| 09:02.16 | milestone | shoot |
| 09:02.17 | themill | Sarge security support ended on 2008-03-31 |
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| 09:02.38 | skysong | anybody could tell what debian uses the latest kernel? |
| 09:02.45 | milestone | is upgrading to 4.0r8 safe? |
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| 09:03.01 | milestone | i mean it is an OLD system |
| 09:03.07 | themill | milestone: there's an established procedure that works fine. /msg dpkg sarge->etch |
| 09:03.17 | milestone | ok thx |
| 09:03.24 | skysong | anyone? |
| 09:03.51 | skysong | im still having a hard time with the dvd burning on the current kernel:/ |
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| 09:05.52 | mr_mojo | hi guys, does anyone have any experience with pptpd here? |
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| 09:35.36 | nicorio | Hi. Is PHP 5.3 available on default Lenny repositories ? |
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| 09:37.12 | nsadmin | nicorio: generally versions do not get upgraded once a debian is released. |
| 09:37.41 | nsadmin | you can try the volatile repo tho, as well as backports, or backporting yourself |
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| 09:38.57 | nsadmin | also... any answer which is available from a database you should search. there is packages.debian.org which you can search for lenny packages |
| 09:39.53 | Arrowmaster | hmm what is 'rred' and why might it be segfaulting while i try to run aptitude update |
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| 09:42.19 | nsadmin | <darrh00> kaduk: apt-get update -o Acquire::Pdiffs=false ,xyan told me this several hours ago ,it works for me.Or As simonrvn said : we know. sometimes clearing the files out of /var/lib/apt/lists (and partial/ - leave the lock file there) helps |
| 09:42.40 | nsadmin | Arrowmaster: see if that works |
| 09:43.34 | Arrowmaster | just found a mailing list post from today about it using google, was about to try clearing /var/lib/apt/lists |
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| 09:44.28 | cosmo_ | i'm making multiple packages from single source tree. do i need to do anything else except add .install files and control sections for each package? |
| 09:45.15 | cosmo_ | i've made them, but files from build dir are not copied into package directories under debian |
| 09:45.16 | regorian1r | if someone sends me a file via dcc, is this a p2p connection or will it be guided throw the freenode server ? |
| 09:45.33 | cosmo_ | regorian1r: p2p |
| 09:45.39 | regorian1r | ah okay |
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| 09:45.44 | regorian1r | well thats nice |
| 09:45.54 | nsadmin | or /help |
| 09:46.25 | nsadmin | if you accept they find out your IP if they didn't know before |
| 09:46.32 | cosmo_ | regorian1r: except it won't go through most firewalls and nats |
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| 10:07.26 | |Frederik | what would be the best way to get a higher resolution than 800x600 in Squeeze running on qemu with cirrus emulation? xorg.log justs says hsync out of range or bad/mode clock/interlace/doublescan for all 1024x768 modes when autoprobing |
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| 10:11.06 | twiggz | ;/ |
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| 10:12.28 | uwjweq | Hi there, how can I make locate search only below ./ ? |
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| 10:14.56 | dgeary2 | uwjweq, is locate the command you want? |
| 10:15.23 | uwjweq | dgeary2: If it is possible without breaking a leg. |
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| 10:15.44 | dgeary2 | uwjweq, i meant what are you trying to do? |
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| 10:15.52 | themill | uwjweq: locate $PWD/*pattern |
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| 10:16.31 | twiggz | good grief. |
| 10:16.31 | twiggz | this is getting insane. |
| 10:16.39 | twiggz | someone jupe something! |
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| 10:17.52 | victoria | hi |
| 10:17.53 | uwjweq | Thank you themill. That worked like I did want to. And did not hurt at all :-) |
| 10:18.21 | victoria | I have just burnt a lenny 5.0.3 cd |
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| 10:18.37 | victoria | but it fails to boot on my laptop, although other cds boot properly |
| 10:19.16 | uwjweq | victoria: Maybe you should not have burned it. |
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| 10:19.29 | dgeary2 | uwjweq, good to hear that it worked... |
| 10:19.39 | dgeary2 | without pain |
| 10:19.56 | victoria | uwjweq hehehe |
| 10:20.28 | uwjweq | dgeary2: Yeah. |
| 10:21.10 | dgeary2 | victoria, is the integrity of the disk okay? |
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| 10:22.11 | victoria | dgeary2: sure, I've burned three of them! and checked the md5 sum |
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| 10:22.55 | victoria | none of them boots |
| 10:23.09 | victoria | I have tested a supergrubcd and it boots |
| 10:23.21 | victoria | but not the debian one, neither one earlier debian one |
| 10:23.46 | dgeary2 | victoria, which cd? |
| 10:23.46 | victoria | I tested a mandriva one and it booted |
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| 10:24.02 | victoria | it looks like my laptop boots any non-debian cd |
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| 10:24.15 | dgeary2 | mi ridas |
| 10:24.36 | dgeary2 | victoria, which debian lenny cd did you burn? |
| 10:24.58 | victoria | the one downloaded from the debian.org page |
| 10:25.36 | twiggz | shit this is getting annoying. |
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| 10:25.40 | dgeary2 | victoria, debian-500-i386-CD-?.iso |
| 10:25.47 | dgeary2 | ? |
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| 10:26.08 | dgeary2 | sorry debian-503-i386-CD-?.iso? |
| 10:26.13 | victoria | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.3/i386/iso-cd/debian-update-5.0.3-i386-CD-1.iso |
| 10:26.25 | dgeary2 | victoria, it's an update |
| 10:26.32 | dgeary2 | kind of like a service pack |
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| 10:26.56 | dgeary2 | that is, that's the wrong disk |
| 10:27.34 | victoria | wow |
| 10:27.36 | dgeary2 | victoria, you want this one: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.3/i386/iso-cd/debian-503-i386-CD-1.iso |
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| 10:28.55 | victoria | bloody hell |
| 10:29.00 | victoria | you are right |
| 10:29.14 | victoria | thankx |
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| 10:29.25 | skysong | dgeary2: what kernel does this one use? |
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| 10:29.41 | dgeary2 | skysong, no idea |
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| 10:30.03 | skysong | im trying to find a version with a recent kernel |
| 10:30.16 | themill | !kmuto |
| 10:30.16 | dpkg | For Debian Lenny (or Etch) installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ . The included <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files in 0627 images are required to be moved prior to network hardware detection, see comments of http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2630-lenny.htm |
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| 10:31.05 | skysong | themill: i tried kmuto.. however, it won't recognise my network |
| 10:31.05 | gypsymauro | hi |
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| 10:31.31 | gypsymauro | I want to install xen on debian lenny but searching with apt I c "linux-image-2.6-xen-686 - Linux 2.6 image on i686, oldstyle Xen support" what means ..old style? |
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| 10:33.09 | victoria | skysong: 2.6.26-19 |
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| 10:33.40 | spessotto | hi. i've installed a kernel using the command dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.30.4-vaio_1_amd64.deb |
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| 10:33.59 | _echa | I am having trouble launching an app using SSH X forwarding. When I launch it from an interactive shell it works just fine, but when i do it in a one-liner such as ssh -qYC user@host ". /etc/profile && . ~/.profile && app_cmd" certain things don't work properly. I tried to source all the stuff i'd normall get from an interactive session like .profile, but it didn't help. The specific problem is that this app is not able to launch little vi w |
| 10:34.16 | skysong | thanks victoria |
| 10:34.37 | spessotto | now, how can i remove it? i tried dpkg --purge --force-remove-essential vmlinuz-2.6.30.4-vaio but the system said me the packet is not installed |
| 10:34.49 | skysong | im on 2.6.31 in ubuntu and burning works fine here:/ |
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| 10:35.50 | danisahne | hi i need to boot into a software raid1 as root with grub2 |
| 10:36.13 | danisahne | linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-14-generic root=UUID=f1bc8ba6-cf9b-4786-86e5-0917a4bb8f9d |
| 10:36.13 | danisahne | [11:34:24] <danisahne> mdadm --detail --scan |
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| 10:38.04 | danisahne | hi all I want to boot from a software raid1 s.b. has experience? what is the uuid mdadm --detail --scan give on but this one is not in /dev/disk/by-uuid |
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| 10:39.52 | mr_mojo | hi guys, does anyone have any experience with pptpd here? |
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| 10:42.52 | willys | someone can help whit plesk? |
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| 10:43.14 | Meths | Is anyone running sid seeing apt-get update errors at the moment? I'm getting a "Method rred has died unexpectedly" error. |
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| 10:44.01 | themill | Meths: http://bugs.debian.org/554349 (although the BTS seems to have turned into a pile of molten lead, silicon and gold atm). Disable pdiffs temporarily and it should work out |
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| 10:47.43 | Meths | themill: Disabling pdiffs did the trick, thanks. Bug page still hasn't loaded though! |
| 10:47.46 | willys | someone can help whit plesk? |
| 10:48.16 | themill | Meths: yeah... I've not yet managed to see the bug page myself... |
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| 10:48.47 | simonrvn | what's the pdiff disable option again? |
| 10:49.09 | Meths | -o Acquire::PDiffs=false |
| 10:49.15 | simonrvn | thanks |
| 10:49.39 | simonrvn | posted it earlier, but i don't keep logs |
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| 10:52.06 | themill | dpkg, rred died is <reply> aptitude and apt-get update will die with "E: Method rred has died unexpectedly!" due to a bad pdiff file from the last mirror update. Use "aptitude -o Acquire::PDiffs=false update" once to work around this. Ask me about <pdiff> or see http://bugs.debian.org/554349 |
| 10:52.06 | dpkg | okay, themill |
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| 10:52.59 | stuckey_ | Anyone know a good way of quickly producing pdfs from documents (that have a decent file size)? |
| 10:53.21 | themill | stuckey_: "from documents" ... what sort of documents are the source? |
| 10:53.31 | nsadmin | how big is a decent file? |
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| 10:53.46 | stuckey_ | themill: A4 size papers |
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| 10:54.06 | stuckey_ | nsadmin: hmm... well I think a normal single document pdf that I might download from somewhere is well under 1MB |
| 10:54.10 | themill | stuckey_: as in you want to scan things and turn the scans into PDFs? |
| 10:54.30 | themill | stuckey_: I have plenty of PDFs in the 10 - 400 MB region here. |
| 10:54.34 | stuckey_ | themill: I believe so yes |
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| 10:57.43 | themill | stuckey_: I believe quite a few scanning front ends can do that for you; I have a script that uses "convert" from imagemagick and "pdftk" to bundle together a directory full of scanned images at the end of the operation. |
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| 11:06.30 | vi390 | I have a twisted plugin, and want to deploy that in a debian package. There used to be "tap2deb" but most say "dont use it anymore, its outdated". Can someone point me to a "bestpractice" way of generating .deb files (including start/stop scripts) |
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| 11:09.45 | Raven737 | Hi, Quick Question: someone just added a new HDD (online) to my debian server. How can i mount this online? |
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| 11:09.55 | Raven737 | (how do i even see it first?) |
| 11:10.32 | Raven737 | can this be done without restart? |
| 11:10.34 | victoria | Raven737: I guess you hava a shell account |
| 11:10.43 | Raven737 | victoria: yea |
| 11:10.55 | victoria | use dmesg to see the device name |
| 11:10.59 | victoria | and then mount |
| 11:11.09 | victoria | you need root access to mount it |
| 11:12.41 | Raven737 | victoria: i have root, dmesg gives me a huge list trying to find the new disk.... |
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| 11:13.05 | stuckey_ | themill: I actually am more interested in how to create just one pdf. |
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| 11:13.37 | themill | stuckey_: pdftk joins the pages together to make one pdf |
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| 11:14.06 | Raven737 | victoria: so i have to restart? is there no way to 'refresh' without a restart? |
| 11:14.22 | stuckey_ | themill: A pdf of one page |
| 11:14.27 | stuckey_ | Just the single page... |
| 11:14.44 | victoria | Raven737: what kind of messages do you get? |
| 11:15.19 | Raven737 | victoria: the last ones are things like eth0: link up |
| 11:16.16 | victoria | Raven737: look for something like 'new usb device' |
| 11:16.29 | themill | stuckey_: so then you can just use convert on a single image... (but I suspect many frontends to sane have this built in already) |
| 11:16.41 | victoria | Raven737: dmesg | grep usb |
| 11:17.06 | Raven737 | victoria: ok i'll try to grep, if yuo want to see: http://pastebin.com/d3876b1c7 |
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| 11:17.56 | Raven737 | victoria: i just get usbcore: registered new driver usbfs and hub |
| 11:18.26 | victoria | Raven737: lines 197 to 204, youve got a sda drive, with partitions sda1, sda2 and sda5 |
| 11:18.34 | victoria | try mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/disk |
| 11:18.35 | HackeMate | someone know why i see the fonts too little in nx? |
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| 11:19.40 | Raven737 | victoria: that is the swap partition.. so i guess it didn't show up? (didn't get detected, guess i have to restart) |
| 11:20.45 | victoria | Raven737: try the other ones |
| 11:21.05 | victoria | Raven737: fdisk -lu /dev/sda |
| 11:21.14 | victoria | Raven737: to see the partitions |
| 11:21.33 | victoria | Raven737: I don't think you'll get something different if you reboot |
| 11:22.19 | Raven737 | victoria: sda1 is primary, sda2 is extended which is mapped to sda5 as swap |
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| 11:23.06 | stuckey_ | themill: What should the file size end up being? |
| 11:23.13 | Raven737 | victoria: i have seen all those before. But thanks for your help, now i know how to go about it :-) |
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| 11:23.48 | Raven737 | victoria: and if it doesn't show up after a restart then someone is getting yelled at ;-) |
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| 11:24.45 | Raven737 | victoria: i mean then they aprrently didn't map it or got the wrong server |
| 11:24.58 | victoria | Raven737: hehehehe |
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| 11:25.49 | themill | stuckey_: that depends entirely on the resolution you scan at and the jpeg quality that you use when you save the files and whether it's black and white or colour. Pick the right parameters and you can easily get reasonable quality PDFs at about 200kB or so per page. |
| 11:26.34 | dutchfish | hi, using debian squeeze amd64 i got an error when aptitude update, E: Method rred has died unexpectedly! and E: Subproces rred redcieved a segmentationfault ; i have tried all the known methods of reviving apt, nothing worked. How to fix this? |
| 11:26.42 | victoria | Raven737: Have you ever tried udevtrigger or udevadm trigger? |
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| 11:27.07 | sash_ | since today apt-get update fails here: http://pastebin.com/d4ce74bfd. memtest86+ doesnt find any problems. can someone help? |
| 11:27.34 | craigevil | dutchfish: apt-get update -o Acquire::Pdiffs=false |
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| 11:28.35 | *** topic/#debian by themill -> /msg dpkg rred died | lenny (debian 5.0.3) released /msg dpkg lennyr3 | /msg dpkg etch->lenny | 4.0r8 released /msg dpkg etch | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | channel logs: http://purl.rikers.org/%23debian |
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| 11:28.46 | themill | (added /msg dpkg rred died to /topic) |
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| 11:29.27 | craigevil | lol whatever was causing it has been fixed in sid, not sure what package that updated fixed it but its fixed |
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| 11:29.36 | Raven737 | victoria: ah reboot was quick :) now i have a sdb as raw, so i just cfdisk and then mount |
| 11:29.54 | dutchfish | craigevil, worked like a charm; is there a dpkg factoid of it? |
| 11:29.57 | Raven737 | victoria: no i hav o idea what udevtrigger is, googleing now :) |
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| 11:30.14 | dutchfish | craigevil, and thank you ! |
| 11:30.26 | themill | craigevil: it's an archive problem not a package problem, although it's quite possible that apt in sid now also works around it by falling back to not using pdiffs rather than just dying. |
| 11:30.58 | dutchfish | themill, this is in testing, and never had this before |
| 11:31.04 | sash_ | is this just a testing-problem? |
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| 11:32.06 | themill | dutchfish: yes. it's a one-off problem with the pdiffs generated in a recent archive push |
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| 11:33.12 | dutchfish | themill, ah ic, should i also test the disk? or is it not related? |
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| 11:33.22 | delx | Hey |
| 11:33.29 | Raven737 | victoria: cool, sp with somethign like: udevadm trigger --verbose i might have seen it before reboot? |
| 11:33.32 | me00z | hi, i am trying to install Linux on my old notebook (PIII 500MHZ, 128MB RAM) with the Debian-installer, but my wlan-card is not supported. is there a way to copy files to zhe HD and install from there? |
| 11:34.08 | victoria | Raven737: probably, but I can't tell now |
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| 11:34.41 | craigevil | themill: no i did the apt-get update -o Acquire::Pdiffs=false first then ran apt-get dist-upgrade then ran apt-get update without the pdiffs flag and it worked |
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| 11:34.57 | dutchfish | craigevil, confirmed |
| 11:35.19 | themill | craigevil: yes, that should solve it too. That has nothing to do with the problem actually being "solved in sid" though |
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| 11:36.09 | dutchfish | ok, i was sweating already |
| 11:36.09 | dutchfish | themill, craigevil thank you very much! |
| 11:36.11 | apassi | hi, i need to modify and rebuild deb in one offline computer, what i need actually copy there to use dpkg-buildpackage to rebuild the deb? i copied some xxx.tar.gz file and extract it but dpkg-buildpackage complains that there is no debian/changelog file or something like that.. |
| 11:36.38 | themill | dutchfish: e.g. have a look at the pdiffs in http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/main/binary-i386/Packages.diff/ You'll notice that one is very much the wrong size and is also not in gzip format. |
| 11:36.40 | Raven737 | victoria: Ah well, something i can try or ask about next time. Thank you very much!!! :-) |
| 11:36.52 | jelly | themill: well, rred shouldn't segfault on invalid input, so _that_ bug needs fixing |
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| 11:37.18 | dutchfish | themill, ah that explains it, yes |
| 11:37.26 | FreakGuard | is there a way to force certain fsck actions on reboot? my ALIX doesn't have a bios clock and it's annoying fsck manually everytime I reboot :( |
| 11:37.28 | jelly | themill: if unlucky, this might even be exploitable |
| 11:37.34 | themill | jelly: it doesn't segfault here so that's either arch-dependent or something new in sid |
| 11:37.40 | delx | I've got a problem with apache2 since I made an apache2 update. Server-status shows all slots full of "W" - "Sending Reply" and top shows apache2 taking 100% cpu time. It doesn't release ny connection if all slots are full. I don't see many requests in my accessLog or special events in my errorLog. Might the update be the cause? |
| 11:37.50 | dutchfish | jelly, true |
| 11:37.57 | llutz | FreakGuard: touch /forcefsck && reboot |
| 11:38.40 | FreakGuard | llutz, force like not asking to correct, just do. It complains about timestamps in the future |
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| 11:38.57 | FreakGuard | any solution to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=554349 yet? |
| 11:39.26 | victoria | hi |
| 11:39.48 | victoria | is there any debian package which contains iwlwifi_4965-1.ucode |
| 11:39.49 | themill | dpkg: tell FreakGuard about rred died |
| 11:39.51 | victoria | ? |
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| 11:40.34 | nsadmin | victoria: what is that? firmware? |
| 11:41.03 | themill | victoria: firmware-iwlwifi. You should /msg dpkg iwl4965 |
| 11:41.42 | nsadmin | imo, rred is broken if it segfaults due to any bad syntax |
| 11:42.10 | nsadmin | parsers are completely solved problems and they should be solid as a rock |
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| 11:45.07 | victoria | themill: [OT] what does /msg dpkg iwl4965 mean? |
| 11:45.30 | victoria | nsadmin: it is |
| 11:45.37 | themill | nsadmin: absolutely, and I'm sure the apt team are treating it in that way. |
| 11:46.09 | nsadmin | what are they trying to add or change about apt? |
| 11:46.25 | themill | victoria: "/msg" is an irc command. We have a bot called "dpkg" which will give you some information in a private message if you give that command. |
| 11:46.45 | themill | nsadmin: nothing, it was the mirror that had a dodgy file on it |
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| 11:47.42 | victoria | nsadmin: thanks |
| 11:47.48 | dutchfish | themill, still it should not segfault on it, is it? |
| 11:48.31 | themill | dutchfish: absolutely... the pdiff parser/applier is presumably making assumptions that it shouldn't about the ed script format. |
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| 11:48.46 | dutchfish | themill, ok, right |
| 11:49.04 | dutchfish | themill, where does rred live in apt? |
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| 11:51.48 | victoria | hi again |
| 11:52.00 | victoria | just installed debian lenny 5.0.3 kde |
| 11:52.12 | victoria | and at login from kdm, I get: |
| 11:52.29 | victoria | Your saved session type '01KDE' is nov valid any more.... |
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| 11:52.36 | victoria | and it doesnt let me log in |
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| 11:53.33 | victoria | oh! sorry |
| 11:54.01 | victoria | I had an older version of debian and I have kept the same user |
| 11:54.10 | victoria | forget about it ;) |
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| 11:55.06 | myst | hi, I am trying to use simple-cdd, but it fetches way to many packages. I want it to fetch only (and only) what is needed on my custom CD. Anyone know how to achive this? Or maybe you can point me to a good howto? http://wiki.debian.org/Simple-CDD/Howto -- is not very descriptive |
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| 12:21.59 | DelphiWorld | hi all |
| 12:22.03 | DelphiWorld | dear friends |
| 12:22.15 | DelphiWorld | any debian web frontend to manage for example DNS Server/...? |
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| 12:23.55 | \amethyst | is there a way to tell apt to pull the entire packages list instead of a pdiff |
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| 12:24.21 | themill | \amethyst: /msg dpkg rred died |
| 12:24.31 | \amethyst | themill: thanks |
| 12:24.43 | \amethyst | themill: exactly that bug too :) |
| 12:24.55 | themill | how did I know? |
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| 12:28.24 | apassi | hi, how to specify specified version for apt-get install ? apt-show-versions show for my openssl that there is two version 0.9.8g-14 and 0.9.8g-15+lenny5, now i need to install this lenny, how to do it? |
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| 12:28.57 | \amethyst | apassi: apt-get install openssl will install the latest available |
| 12:29.16 | \amethyst | apassi: you can do aptitude install openssl=0.9.8g-15+lenny5 to get a particular version |
| 12:29.44 | apassi | \amethyst: thanks, i will try it. i dont want latest version because dev lib depends this earlier. |
| 12:29.50 | adb | judd, versions openssl |
| 12:29.51 | judd | adb: openssl -- etch: 0.9.8c-4etch4 etch-security: 0.9.8c-4etch9 lenny: 0.9.8g-15 lenny-security: 0.9.8g-15+lenny5 sid: 0.9.8k-5 squeeze: 0.9.8k-5 |
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| 12:30.23 | \amethyst | apassi: wait, so which version do you want? 0.9.8g-15+lenny5 is the latest in lenny |
| 12:30.28 | themill | apassi: everything in debian lenny should be self-consistent. You should be able to get the latest version; you might need to upgrade other packages if they are out of date |
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| 12:31.05 | apassi | \amethyst: if i write apt-get install openssl0.9.8 it tells that latest is installed and it is not lenny |
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| 12:31.23 | \amethyst | apassi: what is currently installed? -14 ? |
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| 12:31.43 | \amethyst | apassi: sounds like you need to make sure security.debian.org is in your sources.list, then run apt-get update |
| 12:31.46 | themill | apassi: please pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy openssl; apt-cache policy" |
| 12:31.50 | apassi | \amethyst: ah.. sorry my mistake, yeah you was right lenny was latest but i need this earlier |
| 12:32.04 | apassi | \amethyst: i have offline installation online update is not possible :/ |
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| 12:32.49 | \amethyst | apassi: what depends on the earlier one? There should be about three packages you need to update, and that's it (openssl, libssl0.9.8, and maybe libssl-dev |
| 12:33.05 | apassi | \amethyst: libaal-dev |
| 12:33.08 | apassi | \amethyst: libssl-dev |
| 12:33.34 | apassi | \amethyst: hm.. but it still does not want to install it, it complains that lenny5 is marked as installable.. |
| 12:34.26 | \amethyst | apassi: try fetching and upgrading all three packages from the openssl source package: libssl-dev, libssl0.98, and openssl (and libssl0.98-dbg if you have it) |
| 12:34.49 | \amethyst | apassi: if you upgrade all of them at the same time with dpkg -i, the dependencies should work out |
| 12:35.02 | apassi | \amethyst: ok thanks, i will try if i cant get this to work.. |
| 12:35.54 | themill | apassi: I'm guessing you need to "aptitude update ; aptitude safe-upgrade" |
| 12:35.58 | \amethyst | apassi: there have been a number of security fixes since -14, so it would be better if you could get the newer version working |
| 12:36.04 | \amethyst | themill: offline installation he said |
| 12:36.13 | \amethyst | can't you do something with apt-zip though? |
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| 12:38.00 | apassi | \amethyst: ok problem solved, i dpkg -P --force-all libssl0.9.8 and reinstalled it with libssl-dev so now it work. the computers are in separated offline network so security updates are not needed. |
| 12:38.50 | apassi | \amethyst: but thanks for you aptitude hint |
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| 12:39.29 | \amethyst | that doesn't necessarily mean security updates are not needed (a large proportion of security breaches are "inside jobs"), but I'll assume you've considered those consequences |
| 12:39.33 | themill | \amethyst: ahh... missed that. But that will be the problem still |
| 12:40.03 | rahsputin | hi. i just installed a custom kernel, now i have made some improvments to a new build and want to install it dpkg -i ... is it possible to install the "same kernel" ontop of the one installed, since they have the same names? |
| 12:40.26 | apassi | yeah until we get bugless dist, there is always updates to get.. =) |
| 12:40.40 | \amethyst | apassi: you might consider setting up a partial mirror that's on both that network and the public internet |
| 12:40.55 | \amethyst | but I guess that's a potential vector for attack, then |
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| 12:41.18 | apassi | \amethyst: that is not possible, we must play with distro disk :( |
| 12:41.42 | rahsputin | or is it safer to purge the old one ? |
| 12:41.53 | apassi | now for the smoke, c ya and thanks |
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| 12:43.57 | alcohol | does local mail require either of postfix or exim? |
| 12:45.18 | \amethyst | alcohol: it requires a mail transfer agent, but there are simpler ones available than those (like nullmailer, dma, ssmtp, nbsmtp, etc) |
| 12:45.26 | \amethyst | s/transfer/transport/ |
| 12:45.36 | alcohol | alright |
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| 12:45.58 | alcohol | but I also want to enable the use of .forward or something similar, so users can redirect their mail at a 'real' mail address |
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| 12:46.21 | themill | alcohol: that redirection definitely needs an MTA then |
| 12:46.35 | \amethyst | hm, I'm not sure which of those simple MTAs supports .forward |
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| 12:55.45 | jelly | judd: versions ethtool |
| 12:55.45 | judd | jelly: ethtool -- etch: 5-1 lenny: 6+20080913-1 sid: 6+20090323-2 squeeze: 6+20090323-2 |
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| 12:56.47 | alcohol | themill: so exim or postfix at the very least? |
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| 12:57.19 | themill | alcohol: some of the other simple mailers should be able to do it too. No idea though. I've only ever used exim and postfix... |
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| 12:57.26 | alcohol | meh, currently I've setup exim as a 'smarthost' (in the config also known as sattelite mode) |
| 12:57.29 | themill | (and sendmail, but that's best forgotten) |
| 12:57.36 | alcohol | but to be honest, I found exim and postfix to be a pain to setup |
| 12:57.46 | alcohol | their configs are.. well, they're just whack |
| 12:58.21 | alcohol | if I send mail to a user on my system now, exim automatically mails it to user@domain, domain being specified in the config |
| 12:58.31 | alcohol | regardless if there is a forward or not |
| 12:58.38 | alcohol | not exactly the setup I wanted |
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| 13:03.26 | GNU\colossus | hi there :) |
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| 13:04.08 | GNU\colossus | I'm running Debian stable on a virtuozzo container vhost, and would like to have a more recent version of dovecot. what's the recommended way to get tis done? backports, apt pinning dovecot from testing, or sth. completely different? |
| 13:04.18 | xaashi | hi sorry for this kinda off topic question, but does anyone know how to link to the to 'package-dbg' libs as opposed to a package's stripped libs i.e. 'libpcap-dbg' instead of 'libpcap' when compiling with gcc + debian, thanks |
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| 13:11.17 | dpkg | hello, rumpsy |
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| 13:14.28 | alcohol | wow |
| 13:14.33 | alcohol | http://workaround.org/ispmail/lenny/ this tutorial is great :> |
| 13:15.07 | \amethyst | GNU\colossus: lenny-backports has 1.2.4, is that new enough? |
| 13:15.19 | \amethyst | GNU\colossus: sid has 1.2.6 |
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| 13:16.27 | GNU\colossus | \amethyst: well, I'd be happy with either, as long as security-related issues get fixed rather quickly. my main concern is upgrading to debian 6.0 - which of my options will give fewer problems when that's about to be done? |
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| 13:24.13 | psiklops | hi |
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| 13:27.01 | d1b | tis a bit too quiet |
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| 13:28.24 | liable | calm before the storm |
| 13:28.44 | d1b | :) |
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| 13:31.46 | lsd | yep, all the debian users with questions are still asleep, having spent all night RTFM |
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| 13:33.07 | liable | haha, not likely! |
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| 13:35.27 | GNU\colossus | \amethyst: what would you advise? |
| 13:35.57 | amspilot01 | hi i have a small question : how do i see what options are compiles in a precompiled kernel as internal an witch options are made as modules? do i need to recompile in order to have 802.1q support? |
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| 13:37.00 | \amethyst | GNU\colossus: I would say go with the version from lenny-backports, as that will be least disruptive. bpo doesn't necessarily get security updates, though, so you should keep an eye on the changelogs in the sid and lenny versions of the package |
| 13:38.04 | \amethyst | GNU\colossus: if you do need a newer version than what's in lenny-backports, I would take the sid source package and rebuild the binary packages myseld (/msg dpkg ssb) |
| 13:38.21 | lsd | liable, we can hope :) |
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| 13:38.33 | GNU\colossus | \amethyst: thanks, that's something I can work with! :) |
| 13:38.33 | \amethyst | GNU\colossus: you might need to do that one day if there's a security fix in sid that doesn't make it into the backports.org version |
| 13:38.37 | \amethyst | !bpo |
| 13:38.37 | dpkg | backports.org is an unofficial repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions . A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update. See also <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents>. |
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| 13:38.54 | d1b | lsd: ;) |
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| 13:43.54 | amspilot01 | ok : i can not do a cat at this point seeing itś a appliance sheeva plug but the os version is 2.6.31.x |
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| 13:45.03 | Titan8990 | amspilot01, what can you do? |
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| 13:46.50 | test88 | Hi, I've installed lenny but my wireless card (ipw3945) doesn't work... all modules are loaded (iwl3945 and subsystem), but everything works like they are not. The wireless led in not blinking. Any ideas? |
| 13:47.43 | themill | !wil3945 |
| 13:47.47 | themill | !iwl3945 |
| 13:47.47 | dpkg | iwlwifi is the new driver for Intel 3945 and 4965 wireless chipsets for etchnhalf and lenny onwards. Add <non-free sources>, then "aptitude update && aptitude install firmware-iwlwifi". "modprobe iwl3945" or "modprobe iwl4965" depending on your device's chipset. See http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi (particularly if switching from ipw3945). See also <iwlagn> <wmaster0> <wireless tree> <iwlwifi etch>. #ipw2100 on irc.freenode.net. |
| 13:48.06 | themill | test88: ^^ in particular, check that you have the firmware package. Not all wireless LEDs blink. |
| 13:48.23 | _KaszpiR_ | ##mac channel is so quitet ;D |
| 13:48.36 | amspilot01 | well is there a option or command that i can see how the preconfigured kernel was made and if 802.1q support was concluded in that build? like lsmod does for modules? |
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| 13:49.45 | Titan8990 | amspilot01, grep 8021Q /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
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| 13:50.26 | themill | judd kconfig 8021Q |
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| 13:50.27 | judd | themill: Searching for '8021Q' in lenny kernel config gives VLAN_8021Q=m. |
| 13:50.43 | amspilot01 | ok thanks ill'try that |
| 13:50.52 | Titan8990 | you don't need to now... |
| 13:51.02 | themill | grins |
| 13:51.22 | test88 | thanks |
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| 13:55.01 | amspilot01 | hi judd, ok thanks but i am using a custom kernel for a sheevaplug computer form another source some options have been changed in order to support the nvram drive included in the plug |
| 13:55.16 | jelly | how can I see whether my card supports 802.1q VLANs apart from actually trying to set it up? |
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| 13:58.36 | amspilot01 | hi jell i can help you with that one .. all cards support .1q in unix as long as you include the 8021q module by installing apt-get install vlan. but the kernel must have the build in option to load the module. by a ubunutu distrubution standard |
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| 14:06.14 | jelly | eh, not all hardware supports 802.1q unfortunately |
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| 14:15.16 | test88 | I think I'll use ipw3945 instead of iwl3945... |
| 14:15.50 | test88 | don't know how to manage with this error: [ 1143.998202] iwl3945: Radio disabled by HW RF Kill switch |
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| 14:17.42 | test88 | furthermore iwl doesn't implement some intel privated alghoritms. :\\\\ |
| 14:18.17 | themill | test88: you can't use ipw3945 in lenny. |
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| 14:18.21 | themill | !killswitch |
| 14:18.21 | dpkg | Many wireless drivers (including the ipw* and iwl* drivers) will complain about the kill switch. This is either a keystroke (like Fn+F2) or a physical switch that you need to toggle to turn the radio on. When the kill switch is on, the radio is off (odd way of expressing things, isn't it?) and your network card won't work. |
| 14:18.35 | themill | test88: ^^ and changing the driver won't change the kill switch being on. |
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| 14:24.35 | test88 | oh great |
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| 14:24.55 | test88 | seems that I just need to load iwl3945 with this parameter: disable=0 |
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| 14:33.48 | xerophyte | which manage pages explains the commaline vi mode movement for example Ctl + e to the end and Ctl + a to the front .. which one explains |
| 14:35.51 | smacnay | Anyone here able to troubleshoot connection issues with vino and vinagre on a local lan? |
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| 14:36.24 | smacnay | There is an ubuntu server with vino set for my username but vinagre on this Deb box will get a refused connection. |
| 14:37.02 | Titan8990 | xerophyte, isn't vim self documenting like emacs? |
| 14:37.23 | smacnay | yes, :help should get you started |
| 14:37.39 | xerophyte | i was wondeirng about commandline for bash |
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| 14:37.54 | Titan8990 | xerophyte, its interactive... |
| 14:37.58 | xerophyte | got it .. man readline has info |
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| 14:43.41 | neosmatrix_ | hi could someone tell me which one is newer: 4:0.5+svn20090706-2+b1 or 5:0.5+svn20090508-0.0 ? |
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| 14:44.24 | Titan8990 | 20090706 and 20090508 |
| 14:44.24 | Schizoid | How can I look up what parts are built into and what parts are modules of the current debian kernel? |
| 14:44.26 | Titan8990 | are dates |
| 14:44.42 | Cerise | i installed php5-imagick; however, php can't find the path to it. i can specify the path myself, but what is it? |
| 14:44.50 | Titan8990 | Schizoid, cat /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 14:45.04 | neosmatrix_ | so for german this is: 6. July 09 ? |
| 14:45.17 | Titan8990 | Cerise, dpkg -S php5-imagick |
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| 14:45.34 | Titan8990 | Cerise, usually needs to be enabled in php.ini |
| 14:45.40 | Schizoid | Titan8990: ah yes, but is there a site where I can see what the kernel for sid has, for example? |
| 14:45.57 | Cerise | hmk |
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| 14:50.07 | themill | neosmatrix_: the 4: and 5: are the most important parts of that version number. /msg dpkg debian epoch ; /msg dpkg compare versions |
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| 14:51.22 | Titan8990 | Schizoid, you can use judd |
| 14:52.44 | frog | i'm looking for some sict that let me pop up words when do mouse over system wide. is there something llike this? |
| 14:52.55 | Schizoid | Titan8990: what is Judd? searching google for "debian linux judd" isn't helping |
| 14:53.34 | petemc | judd is a bot in this channel you can query for info on packages etc |
| 14:53.35 | judd | petemc: Error: "is" is not a valid command. |
| 14:53.42 | petemc | that ^^ |
| 14:53.50 | Schizoid | o i c |
| 14:53.59 | abrotman | there used to be a page somewhere that had them .. though he could just as easily get the .deb and unpack it |
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| 15:00.15 | KaiSVK | hi all, I have a very special irregular problem ... I had Sybase SQLAnywhere installed on SLES 10, now I moved it to debian stable installation. After this even small "database proceses" can take CPU load to about 190% so the database performance is much much worse than with SLES10. Could there be something specfic for SQLAnywhere or to databases in general in relationship to debian's kernel, configuration ?? Am I missing something? |
| 15:02.29 | p3rror | hello |
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| 15:03.47 | p3rror | i have installed the debian-amd64 on a intel xeon ( HP DL380 G4) |
| 15:04.02 | p3rror | everything is ok |
| 15:04.16 | p3rror | i've 8G of RAM |
| 15:04.43 | p3rror | the problem is that my kernel.shmmax = 33554432 |
| 15:04.52 | abrotman | p3rror: uname -a says what ? |
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| 15:05.18 | p3rror | Linux antares 2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Oct 19 02:34:17 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 15:05.41 | abrotman | oh .. so change your shmmax ? |
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| 15:13.36 | p3rror | abrotman, it's worked |
| 15:13.46 | p3rror | so i have to add an entry in my sysctl.conf |
| 15:13.48 | test999 | Can I install xulrunner using apt? |
| 15:14.00 | p3rror | but why kernel start with this small value |
| 15:15.08 | themill | dpkg: tell test999 about search |
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| 15:16.25 | SteveC | I'm a bit confused about how I'm supposed to update cmdline php from 4 to 5? |
| 15:16.45 | SteveC | i've got the php5 package installed but can't find any binaries... |
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| 15:17.53 | antgel | hi all. problem burning CDs with those user-friendly gnome apps, banshee and rhythmbox. when i insert a blank cd into my cdrom, both apps should display the blank cd on the left-hand side, but neither does. #banshee said it might be a dbus or hal problem - i did have cdrom polling disabled because of advice from powertop but even though it's now enabled, no difference how can i debug this further? brasero sees the blank cd, and i can |
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| 15:19.41 | SteveC | never mind - php5-cli |
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| 15:21.52 | _echa | how do i get the PID of a process i've just launched from within a script? |
| 15:22.02 | becky | $$ |
| 15:22.22 | becky | ah no wait |
| 15:22.26 | _echa | no |
| 15:22.31 | _echa | that's current process |
| 15:22.50 | becky | right my fault |
| 15:23.25 | _echa | i can't use pidof |
| 15:24.02 | abrotman | antgel: msg or -ot ? |
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| 15:27.03 | becky | _echa, launched in background? |
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| 15:27.39 | vi390 | Hi, I have in a start-stop script I try to write to start a twistd Daemon. Now the daemon sets an own PID, and its different from the one start-stop-daemon writes in /var/run/myPid.pid any idea how I can solve that? |
| 15:27.57 | _echa | becky: yeah, I'm jsut launching a gnome-terminal session from within a script, i need to find the PID to check if it still exists a few seconds later |
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| 15:29.17 | becky | _echa, you could use %- which should expand to the most current launched job |
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| 15:31.10 | _echa | becky: > gnome-terminal ; echo $- returns "himBH" |
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| 15:31.31 | becky | _echa, I saud %- |
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| 15:31.38 | becky | s/saud/said/ |
| 15:32.07 | becky | referenced from JOB CONTROL in BASH manual |
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| 15:32.48 | vi390 | is it best, to use start-stop-daemon in every case. Any idea how to forde wrting the correct PID with twistd |
| 15:33.07 | _echa | becky: i don't get it |
| 15:33.43 | BlueG | How can I install Debian on a system that isn't supported by isolinux (but is supported by the original syslinux)? |
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| 15:34.48 | becky | _echa, ah wrong again. it doesn't expand to the process id |
| 15:35.27 | _echa | no |
| 15:35.31 | _echa | it's not a variable |
| 15:36.34 | nitrofurano | all Debian packagers: new room at #getdeb - be welcome! :) |
| 15:36.34 | Gun_Smoke | why ^? |
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| 15:36.34 | abrotman | nitrofurano: please go away |
| 15:37.10 | becky | _echa, how about $! ? |
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| 15:39.37 | becky | When launching a process into background this variable should then contain the pid of the launched process |
| 15:40.54 | nitrofurano | @abrotman - please go away? please explain.. |
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| 15:41.02 | nitrofurano | abrotman: please go away? please explain.. |
| 15:41.19 | abrotman | nitrofurano: getdeb is not for Debian, and neither is launchpad .. go spam somewhere else |
| 15:41.27 | _echa | becky: got nothing back from $! |
| 15:41.46 | becky | _echa, with a little test it works on my side: http://pastebin.com/m646adbe2 |
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| 15:42.08 | becky | This only works for launching jobs in background |
| 15:42.18 | FluxD | Hi, I am using debian squeeze through nomachine nx on a remote machine. I think there is a bug with nautilus. When I goto edit preferences, nautilus crashes |
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| 15:42.29 | becky | for foreground jobs there is no need to know the PID |
| 15:42.29 | nitrofurano | abrotman: but can be considered as half way - i'm not spamming, only inviting - there are still lots of wonderful projects about to be packaged |
| 15:42.34 | abrotman | FluxD: a few people have reported that |
| 15:42.38 | abrotman | nitrofurano: go away |
| 15:42.53 | nitrofurano | abrotman: how better we join the efforts, better for Debian, imho |
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| 15:43.01 | FluxD | abrotman, any temporary fix? |
| 15:43.01 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@87.196.148.149] by abrotman |
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| 15:43.12 | abrotman | nitrofurano: please keep it on-topic next time. Thanks. |
| 15:43.22 | abrotman | FluxD: i haven't looked in the BTS |
| 15:43.35 | cheako | Hello, how can I tell apt to use an IPv6 address in sources.list, the http://[a::b]:80/ is causing apt to look up [a::b]. |
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| 15:43.57 | abrotman | cheako: put the hostname in your hosts file? |
| 15:44.29 | cheako | yeah, that's a good idea.. I've done that, I jhust need to use it. |
| 15:45.25 | FluxD | abrotman, Anyway to edit the settings using gconf? |
| 15:46.07 | abrotman | FluxD: i have no idea .. i don't really use nautilus for file browsing .. but i would think that would be an option |
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| 15:46.57 | abrotman | FluxD: if you run it from an xterm .. does it give you an error ? |
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| 15:47.10 | FluxD | abrotman, yea it dumps something and exits |
| 15:47.39 | abrotman | such as ? |
| 15:48.02 | _echa | becky: yes,i get the PID when i run anything with & |
| 15:48.51 | FluxD | abrotman, (nautilus:4746): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_signal_connect_data: assertion `G_TYPE_CHECK_INSTANCE (instance)' failed |
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| 15:49.05 | _echa | becky: i'll just do that. thanks |
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| 15:55.35 | chops | Does anyone happen to know of a good tool for managing users in an LDAP directory? |
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| 15:56.42 | chops | Basically, I'm looking to use LDAP to synchronize accounts across a number of applications at a small business, but I need a frontend that the business types can interact with for day-to-day administration. |
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| 15:58.28 | cheako | Is there a cron/puppet friendly version of "apt-get update"? |
| 15:58.41 | themill | cheako: cron-apt might be what you want |
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| 15:59.05 | `GMF`afk | is there a way to protect a package from being update ? |
| 15:59.20 | themill | chops: I was asking that sort of question a while back and was pointed in the direction of lemonldap-ng (and associated packages). I've not looked further just yet though. |
| 15:59.45 | themill | `GMF`afk: aptitude forbid-version or hold. |
| 15:59.55 | cheako | themill: I'm aware of that package, I would't expect it to perform a single apt function. |
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| 16:01.15 | cheako | Package cron-apt is not available, but is referred to by... Huh? |
| 16:01.26 | themill | judd versions cron-apt |
| 16:01.27 | judd | themill: cron-apt -- etch: 0.4.14 lenny: 0.6.7 sid: 0.6.7 sid: 0.8.0 squeeze: 0.8.0 |
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| 16:02.39 | cheako | wow updated and now it's there. |
| 16:03.13 | cheako | ohh it's cause I updated sources.list. |
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| 16:04.32 | dlynes | The i386 distro should still work on a dual opteron, right? |
| 16:04.46 | cheako | The config file update does not exist. |
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| 16:05.24 | chops | dlynes: Yes |
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| 16:05.33 | cheako | dlynes: There was an old dos application that stopped working P2 or above, it was a vary nice file manager and text/hex editor. |
| 16:05.41 | dlynes | chops: nothing special you need to do to get it to work either, right? |
| 16:06.30 | chops | dlynes: Nope |
| 16:06.37 | dlynes | chops: thanks, muchly |
| 16:06.48 | chops | dlynes: np |
| 16:07.11 | cheako | <joe-mac> yea, but it's kind of standard practice to run apt-get update from cron every night or something anyways |
| 16:07.17 | dlynes | chops: just being forced to use a 32-bit os install, because a certain shared object (precompiled, prelinked) is only available for 32-bit |
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| 16:08.31 | iceroot | wmgiwr: get a life |
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| 16:08.36 | hark | !ops wmgiwr |
| 16:08.36 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: hark complains about: wmgiwr |
| 16:08.38 | ]pablo[ | wow kick that jerk |
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| 16:08.42 | larswey | wat |
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| 16:08.46 | KavanS | wmgiwr, omg fu mofo sonofabitch! |
| 16:08.47 | fronix[OFF] | wow... |
| 16:08.48 | maligor | wth? |
| 16:08.55 | Gun_Smoke | buh-bye... ! |
| 16:08.55 | kiri | wtf?? |
| 16:08.58 | jatt | lol |
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| 16:09.03 | [SkG] | ty LoRez |
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| 16:09.45 | alnr | how is telnet installed/started? so far i've done apt-get install telnetd inetd and /etc/init.d/inetd restart, no luck (i'm aware telnet is bad, ssh good) |
| 16:10.17 | iceroot | alnr: telnet bad, ssh good!! |
| 16:10.21 | kiri | lol |
| 16:10.28 | joeytwiddle | alnr: if there's no start script in /etc/init.d/telnetd, then probably it runs by inetd |
| 16:10.30 | cheako | alnr: invoke-rc.d telnetd start |
| 16:10.32 | alnr | hehe, just wanted to forestall that |
| 16:10.38 | petemc | alnr: are there lines in /etc/inetd.conf for telnet ? |
| 16:10.54 | cheako | update-inetd... |
| 16:11.13 | cheako | Perhaps it IS running, but only on 127.0.0.1 |
| 16:11.15 | alnr | its got telnet stream tcp nowait telnetd.telnetd /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.telnetd |
| 16:11.34 | dlynes | alnr: netstat -anp | grep ":21" |
| 16:11.43 | petemc | thats ftp |
| 16:11.45 | alnr | k i looked ps aux | grep telnet, not there |
| 16:11.49 | kiri | 21 is FTP |
| 16:11.54 | petemc | alnr: telnet localhost 23 |
| 16:11.56 | kiri | try :23 |
| 16:12.19 | petemc | i guess the 23 is redundant.. |
| 16:12.27 | kiri | *nod* |
| 16:12.28 | alnr | yes nmap -p 23 localhost says closed |
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| 16:12.53 | petemc | alnr: is the line in inetd.conf uncommented? |
| 16:13.11 | alnr | no # in front |
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| 16:13.14 | dlynes | oops |
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| 16:13.25 | dlynes | been so long since I used telnet, I forgot it was port 23 :) |
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| 16:14.04 | alnr | ps says that /usr/sbin/inetutils-inetd is running |
| 16:14.06 | dlynes | alnr: the '#' means it's commented out |
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| 16:14.18 | dlynes | alnr: remove the '#', save the file, and then restart your inetd process |
| 16:14.19 | alnr | right, its not commented |
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| 16:14.39 | dlynes | alnr: oh...thought you mean 'no, # in front' |
| 16:14.42 | dlynes | sorry |
| 16:14.45 | alnr | :) |
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| 16:15.12 | alnr | so it really should be run, inetd is running, and telnetd is in the conf. strange |
| 16:15.33 | chops | dlynes: You can use ia32libs to run most 32-bit applications from a 64-bit install |
| 16:15.34 | dlynes | alnr: what do you get when you do 'netstat -anp | grep ":23"'? |
| 16:15.48 | chops | dlynes: 32-bit installations are simpler if you don't happen to need anything 64-bit related, though |
| 16:16.01 | alnr | dlynes: no output |
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| 16:16.03 | dlynes | chops: Can I run a 64-bit app, and a mix of 32-bit and 64-bit shared objects for that 64-bit app? |
| 16:16.12 | dlynes | alnr: so, it's not running then |
| 16:16.21 | dlynes | alnr: not even on localhost |
| 16:16.31 | chops | dlynes: Not that I know of |
| 16:16.33 | alnr | right. it simply hasnt started that daemon |
| 16:16.38 | dlynes | alnr: have you done an /etc/init.d/inetd restart? |
| 16:16.47 | alnr | i did lemme try again |
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| 16:17.22 | Sneex | is the proper way to change a Interfaces static IP to edit /etc/network/interfaces? If so, then what? Because ifup/ifdown isn't getting the changes. |
| 16:17.49 | dlynes | chops: that's my problem...it's a 64-bit app, 64-bit shared objects, but one shared object that's precompiled/prelinked that's 32-bit, and no 64-bit is currently available |
| 16:17.55 | dlynes | chops: i.e. fax for asterisk |
| 16:18.05 | cheako | I got my thing working. |
| 16:18.06 | chops | Sneex: Can you pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces and then the process of ifup/ifdown/ifconfig showing the old IP? |
| 16:18.21 | alnr | dlynes: is called inetutils-inetd now (which i assume is the same thing) "restarting internet superserver inetd" |
| 16:18.35 | chops | dlynes: Ah, yes, you probably want a 32-bit install then if you don't need 64-bit. Soon multiarch will be here and all of this will be simpler, no doubt. |
| 16:19.03 | dlynes | alnr: oh...wait a second |
| 16:19.16 | alnr | eek |
| 16:19.29 | alnr | bingo: inetd[6922]: telnet/tcp: No such user 'telnetd.telnetd', service ignored |
| 16:19.30 | dlynes | alnr: you're not running debian? |
| 16:20.02 | dlynes | alnr: why are you trying to use inetutils-inetd? |
| 16:20.11 | dlynes | alnr: why aren't you trying to use openbsd-inetd? |
| 16:20.21 | alnr | i think thats what i got when i apt-get install inetd |
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| 16:21.45 | dlynes | alnr: ah..just realized debian has many ways to skin the cat: inetutils-inetd, openbsd-inetd, xinetd, micro-inetd, rlinetd |
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| 16:22.00 | dlynes | alnr: why on earth it has so many versions of inetd, I don't really know |
| 16:22.15 | alnr | dunno, i never deal with inetd normally |
| 16:22.38 | alnr | is there anything really useful in it nowadays i wonder |
| 16:22.50 | thrashold | Can anyone using audacity on Debian tell me which package I need to install to get lame working? (Debian sid) It says it needs libmp3lame.so.0, which isn't available in any package |
| 16:23.02 | dlynes | alnr: it's generally for running legacy services, and/or running modern services in the legacy manner |
| 16:23.15 | Titan8990 | !mm |
| 16:23.15 | dpkg | methinks mm is Myanmar (Burma) |
| 16:24.04 | dlynes | thrashold: you probably want 'toolame' |
| 16:24.29 | dlynes | thrashold: i.e. apt-get install toolame |
| 16:25.01 | thrashold | Only twolame is available, but audacity doesn't like it |
| 16:25.24 | dlynes | thrashold: did toolame get removed for sid? It was available in both etch and lenny |
| 16:25.45 | telmich | are there any plans when squeeze will become the next stable? |
| 16:26.14 | thrashold | dlynes: I have no idea, apt-cache search toolame lists only twolame |
| 16:26.15 | dlynes | thrashold: actually try libtwolame0 and libtwolame-dev |
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| 16:27.20 | abrotman | !tell thrashold about lame |
| 16:27.22 | abrotman | !tell thrashold about dmm |
| 16:27.23 | thrashold | dlynes: Yeah, I have that, but Audacity wants to load libmp3lame.so.0 which isn't available, and when I point to libtwolame.so.0 it doesn't like it (as expected) |
| 16:27.39 | Trewas | dlynes: toolame/twolame mpeg1 layer2 encoder, which is quite different to mp3 (which is what lame is for) |
| 16:27.44 | Trewas | +is |
| 16:27.55 | thrashold | Thanks |
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| 16:28.34 | dlynes | Trewas: ah...I just remember running into the same issue some time ago, myself (not with audacity...some other project)...solved the problem, but can't remember exactly how |
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| 16:28.55 | naquad | hi |
| 16:29.02 | naquad | what's better: usplash or splashy? |
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| 16:29.34 | mesaGL | neither |
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| 16:29.44 | naquad | mesaGL, ermm why? |
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| 16:30.08 | mesaGL | naquad: well splashy doesn't work very well, and the themes for usplash are ugly |
| 16:30.20 | naquad | mesaGL, very nice :( |
| 16:30.34 | twiggz | you can create themes for it. |
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| 16:31.16 | twiggz | and that all depends on what you call ugly in the first place....its an opinion. |
| 16:31.20 | mesaGL | twiggz: i'm sure you can, but i think i'll just stick to ordinary console messages for now |
| 16:31.27 | thrashold | Yay, I win: E: Method rred has died unexpectedly! E: Sub-process rred received a segmentation fault. |
| 16:32.14 | mesaGL | thrashold: i got that too. you have to delete the files in /var/lib/apt/lists/ |
| 16:32.34 | mesaGL | thrashold: and then do aptitude or apt-get update again |
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| 16:34.09 | thrashold | mesaGL: Thanks :) |
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| 16:34.44 | twiggz | wow, thats going around huh |
| 16:34.48 | twiggz | me too |
| 16:34.58 | wad | There are several decent hardware diagnostic apps for Windows, but this linux laptop is crashing hard, and we think it might be a hardware problem. Is there an app we can use to test it out? |
| 16:35.17 | petemc | wad: have you checked dmesg/syslog/messages ? |
| 16:35.23 | mesaGL | wad: test the memory first. memtest86+ |
| 16:35.24 | wad | checks now |
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| 16:36.13 | runningaim | hello..tried setting up a debian system by installing the base core and then slowly adding the apps i need.however i have a query that i hope you might help me solve.how can i lock the root terminal so that the simple user needs a password to open it? |
| 16:36.20 | afurlan | I installed the KVM in a debian lenny machine |
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| 16:36.23 | wad | petemc, wait, what's the path to this file again? There is no /dmesg.... |
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| 16:36.28 | afurlan | and it's working but I can't create new machine using the paravirtualized mode |
| 16:36.36 | afurlan | does anyone know how can I enable it? |
| 16:36.44 | twiggz | dont delete the partial file in /var/lib/apt/lists |
| 16:36.46 | twiggz | LOL |
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| 16:37.05 | petemc | wad: /var/log/ , theres a dmesg command to view it too |
| 16:37.05 | mesaGL | it's a dir anyways |
| 16:37.06 | Voting | I'm having trouble loading the java plug in: http://pastebin.com/d7fd5c804 |
| 16:37.24 | twiggz | well, whatever it is...its gone. |
| 16:37.26 | twiggz | lol |
| 16:37.31 | wad | petemc, ah, cool. |
| 16:37.45 | twiggz | Anyone got any idea how to fix that? |
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| 16:37.54 | twiggz | just recreate the dir? |
| 16:38.24 | twiggz | yes |
| 16:38.25 | twiggz | that worked |
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| 16:39.21 | Voting | I need a package expert. I have a broken package. http://pastebin.com/d7fd5c804 |
| 16:40.21 | module000 | Voting: update apt first. |
| 16:40.26 | wad | Hmm, so these logs are nice, but is there no package that just does diagnostics? I'll google for it. |
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| 16:40.44 | Voting | module000: how do I do that? |
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| 16:40.54 | Voting | module000: this MIGHT Just have worked. How would I tell? |
| 16:40.56 | Muli|CTGR | is there anyway that I can write a one line command to create a crontab job? |
| 16:41.18 | module000 | Voting: apt-get update |
| 16:42.17 | Voting | module000: seemed like a nice reply. |
| 16:42.24 | abrotman | !why aptitude |
| 16:42.25 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often be able to come up with a solution where apt-get just gives up. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). It can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line or at the Y/n/q/? prompt using its interactive resolver, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
| 16:42.57 | kiri | what's aptitude's version / equivalent of apt-get -f ?? |
| 16:43.41 | llutz | -f |
| 16:43.44 | mesaGL | twiggz: partial was a dir. why did you remove it ? |
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| 16:46.09 | syslq_ | pipe failed too many open files <-- what can I do in such cases? |
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| 16:46.58 | mesaGL | syslq_: do the files one at a time, if it is a really long filelist |
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| 16:47.21 | kiri | llutz, and how the hell did I miss that? |
| 16:47.27 | kiri | :P |
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| 16:48.09 | jelly | !ops Miss-tURk[off] on-join spam |
| 16:48.09 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: jelly complains about: Miss-tURk[off] on-join spam |
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| 16:48.16 | syslq_ | mesaGL: It's an error hddtemp logs |
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| 16:48.37 | sanmarcos | how do I fix this in lenny? http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/11/04/0320254 |
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| 16:49.30 | jelly | sanmarcos: have you confirmed it's vulnerable? |
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| 16:49.57 | jelly | sanmarcos: also, have you read the comments regarding vm.mmap_min_addr? |
| 16:50.17 | sanmarcos | jelly: no, I really don't care about that much detail, I just want to know my system is safe |
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| 16:50.28 | sanmarcos | the default is 0 on debian, and that seems like it is not safe |
| 16:50.51 | Meths | sanmarcos: cat /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr |
| 16:50.57 | Meths | sanmarcos: sid has 4096 |
| 16:51.03 | sanmarcos | I said lenny |
| 16:51.06 | twiggz | mesaGL, because it was in that dir, i didnt bother to look and see what there was in there lol |
| 16:51.06 | sanmarcos | most servers use lenny |
| 16:51.23 | jelly | sanmarcos: so change the value. |
| 16:51.25 | twiggz | no worries, just recreating the directory fixed it. |
| 16:51.25 | Meths | sanmarcos: I know you said lenny, you then made a sweeping statement about debian |
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| 16:52.12 | sanmarcos | Meths: technichalities, you knew what I meant |
| 16:52.55 | jelly | sanmarcos: /etc/sysctl.conf to set it at boot time |
| 16:53.16 | jelly | ... and your system will be SAFE! |
| 16:53.25 | jelly | !win sanmarcos |
| 16:53.25 | dpkg | Congratulations, sanmarcos! You have won the US presidency! |
| 16:53.39 | sanmarcos | thank you |
| 16:53.47 | sanmarcos | this is tech support like it should be |
| 16:54.18 | jelly | full of sound and fury, signifying nothing? |
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| 16:54.33 | sanmarcos | people are insane here, you know it jelly |
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| 16:57.01 | mesaGL | syslq_: huh ? sorry, can you give the context where that error message appeared ? it usually means that someone has tried a command with too many arguments (usually filenames) |
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| 16:58.40 | Zitter | hi, apt-cache search base-config return debian-edu-install.... how to isntall abse-config ? |
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| 16:58.48 | macondo | hi, is there a line i can put on my .initrc to have the speakers turned on when i enter the X system? |
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| 16:59.03 | macondo | .xinitrc, sorry |
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| 17:00.03 | abrotman | Zitter: doesn't exist anymore |
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| 17:00.24 | Zitter | is there an alternative? |
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| 17:00.47 | jelly | wonders where these come from. |
| 17:00.49 | jelly | Nov 4 18:00:19 burek udevd[875]: error writing to queue file: No space left on device |
| 17:00.49 | jelly | Nov 4 18:00:19 burek udevd[875]: failed to create queue file: No space left on device |
| 17:01.04 | ballessay | macondo: what do you mean by "turned on"? |
| 17:01.13 | jelly | ... all the filesystems have lots od free blocks and inodes. |
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| 17:01.37 | wxl | just wants to know if there's a live cd at all.. but especially for the ppc |
| 17:01.45 | jelly | !livecd |
| 17:01.45 | dpkg | An operating system that can boot and run directly from CD. Linux-based examples are Knoppix and Ubuntu. Useful as a rescue CD or for showing off to your geek friends. Debian has its own Live CD (http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/), ask me about <debian live>. http://www.livecdlist.com/ |
| 17:01.48 | Zitter | i want to set "myName" as pc name (instead of "debian"). changing /etc/hostname doesn't work if I write myName in a browser. So i would like to use a program such as base-.coconfig to correctly set my hostname |
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| 17:01.53 | macondo | ballessay, so the speakers are ON. So far i have to turn them on manually |
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| 17:02.47 | abrotman | Zitter: edit /etc/hostname ; reboot |
| 17:02.55 | syslq_ | mesaGL: udevd-work[18093]: pipe failed: Too many open files, where could I adjust that? |
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| 17:03.05 | tech404 | wxl: Finnix might be another place to look |
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| 17:03.36 | wxl | tech404 - it does but it's a bit stripped down for my tastes |
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| 17:03.43 | Zitter | abrotman, tried it doesn't work |
| 17:03.57 | Zitter | in my browser I have to write "debian" instead of "myName" |
| 17:04.26 | ballessay | macondo: do you mean "to power on external speakers" or "to turn on the mixer for that output" |
| 17:04.35 | cheako | Hello, I once read that the usage of ntpdate was depreciated in favor of "ntpd -q", or something. Is this still the case? |
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| 17:04.51 | Zitter | for example /etc/hosts remains "debian" |
| 17:04.54 | mesaGL | syslq_: you can either make the max open files more, or find out why so many are open and fix that. to make more files open : you can adjust /proc/sys/fs/file-max |
| 17:04.56 | mastro | can someone help me debugging a not working pptp connection? I configured it and launched it.. but it does not connect... the strange thing is that somehow it happen to connect at some time (random and rarely) without me modifying anything..... i've debian squeeze and i tryed with network-manager-pptp before and then with configuration file directly |
| 17:04.57 | Zitter | 127.0.0.1 debian |
| 17:05.21 | syslq_ | mesaGL:you were very helpful, thank you |
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| 17:05.46 | xxtjaxx | how can it possiblz be that i get peremission denied when i want tu run clamscan on a mounted dir? |
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| 17:05.53 | wxl | no debian live for ppc i see |
| 17:05.53 | mastro | it send this for a while without replies: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x7560dd49> <pcomp> <accomp>] |
| 17:06.05 | mesaGL | syslq_: echo "1048576" > /proc/sys/fs/file-max, for example |
| 17:06.12 | syslq_ | mhm :) |
| 17:06.13 | mastro | and than terminate with LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests |
| 17:06.54 | macondo | ballessay, when i turn them on, i can listen to video, music, youtube, etc. I thought there was a line i could put in my .xinitrc like the one i got to turn the numpad on for example: "numlock &" |
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| 17:07.01 | syslq_ | mesaGL: if file-max does not exist I can create it ? |
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| 17:08.30 | antgel | abrotman: no time today dude, got a manic schedule. hope all good |
| 17:08.33 | mesaGL | syslq_: huh ? i've never heard of /proc/sys/fs/file-max not existing ... |
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| 17:13.18 | mesaGL | syslq_: .you can set it by sysctl -w fs.file-max=1048576. or you can add "fs.file-max=1048576" to /etc/sysctl.conf if you like too |
| 17:13.27 | macondo | anybody? |
| 17:13.40 | mesaGL | ... assuming you want 1048576 as your value ... |
| 17:14.10 | ballessay | macondo: there is a difference between "turn the power on" or "set the mixer volume to something audible" |
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| 17:14.45 | mesaGL | macondo: add the command you manually type in to your desktop startup file |
| 17:14.47 | ballessay | still not clear what you want |
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| 17:15.11 | ballessay | mesaGL: thx |
| 17:15.58 | issyl0 | Hi there. I'm wondering whether to switch from Ubuntu to Debian. I don't expect it to be much of a change, considering Ubuntu is built on Debian, and my server runs Debian, but what are the advantages? |
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| 17:16.16 | issyl0 | I want to try a new distro and people have said Debian is more stable than Ubuntu |
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| 17:16.53 | agx | is there a way to avoid that upgrading or installing a DEB will override (or ask to change) a specific config file, for instance /etc/samba/smb.conf ? |
| 17:17.13 | syslq_ | mesaGL: thanks a lot |
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| 17:22.26 | Xenguy | agx: ordinarily the installation will let you know if a configuration file has changed... |
| 17:22.41 | Xenguy | agx: and offer you the chance to choose your preferred option |
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| 17:25.07 | agx | Xenguy: indeed it ask me Y or N for 100 files. I want to say "Y" to 99 and "N" to 1 automatically :) |
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| 17:25.33 | Xenguy | agx: yeeesh, sounds odd :-/ |
| 17:25.48 | macondo | ballessay, i want to turn the power on |
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| 17:26.33 | macondo | mesaGL, right now i use no command, i push the button behind one of the speakers |
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| 17:26.49 | agx | Xenguy: yes because config files are handled by a webinterface and i don't want a silent upgrade to change some stuffs |
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| 17:27.44 | ballessay | macondo: so you these are external speakers? and you have never used a command to turn them on before? |
| 17:28.03 | macondo | ballessay, correct! |
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| 17:28.34 | ballessay | macondo: not 100% sure, but i don't think that you can do this by commandline and so not in your xinitrc |
| 17:29.03 | macondo | ballessay, thx pal, i appreciate it |
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| 17:29.37 | agx | Xenguy: dpkg-divert works with config files too? |
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| 17:30.22 | Xenguy | agx: I'm not familiar with dpkg-divert (at least I don't recall using it) |
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| 17:35.25 | mesaGL | dpkg-divert is very handy for preinst and postrm scripts in a debian package. it's main use is when files from different packages conflict, and it provides a clean method to save and restore things |
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| 17:41.35 | tech404 | So I have heard both sides of this and I can't seem to find a definitive answer... will the first partition be on the outside of a plater or the last? |
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| 17:42.04 | hehu | first=inner edge |
| 17:42.08 | antgel | hi all. problem burning CDs with those user-friendly gnome apps, banshee and rhythmbox. when i insert a blank cd into my cdrom, both apps should display the blank cd on the left-hand side, but neither does. #banshee said it might be a dbus or hal problem - i did have cdrom polling disabled because of advice from powertop but even though it's now enabled, no difference how can i debug this further? brasero sees the blank cd, and i can |
| 17:42.12 | hehu | last=outer edge, slower |
| 17:42.42 | abrotman | antgel: you're trying to burn a CD from rhythmbox / |
| 17:42.43 | abrotman | ? |
| 17:43.03 | antgel | yes, or preferably banshee |
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| 17:43.29 | antgel | i so rarely burn an audio CD, i thought i'd do it the "easy way" rather than convert to wav on the command line, etc |
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| 17:43.44 | antgel | and xcdroast doesn't have such good music library support |
| 17:44.43 | abrotman | antgel: what kind of CD are you trying to make? data or music? (i usually use brasero or gnomebaker for making a CD) |
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| 17:44.59 | abrotman | eh .. ignore the question .. try brasero |
| 17:45.30 | antgel | abrotman: audio. yes, brasero recognizes it. but i'd like to do it from banshee / rhythmbox which have all my tagging information. it should Just Work AFAIK |
| 17:45.54 | antgel | i.e. when you put the blank CD in, banshee / rhythmbox should show it on the left, and then you can drag stuff to it |
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| 17:47.51 | abrotman | antgel: tagging an audio CD? |
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| 17:48.47 | antgel | abrotman: no, but i can use the tags to find the music quicker than browsing directories. besides which it should work and is annoying me :) |
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| 17:49.16 | abrotman | jumps on themill |
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| 17:49.30 | abrotman | antgel: does it recognize if you put in a regular CD to play ? |
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| 17:50.17 | assasusonic | hello, how do i change the default media player in lenny? update-alternative --config |
| 17:50.26 | abrotman | assasusonic: in what? |
| 17:50.39 | assasusonic | lenny |
| 17:50.44 | assasusonic | debian stable :D |
| 17:50.46 | assasusonic | sorry :D |
| 17:50.52 | abrotman | kde? gnome? |
| 17:51.19 | assasusonic | gnome |
| 17:51.33 | abrotman | you change the file type association in nautilus |
| 17:51.53 | patrikf | assasusonic: gnome-default-applications-properties |
| 17:52.05 | assasusonic | oki |
| 17:52.09 | assasusonic | ah damn :D so easy |
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| 17:53.27 | assasusonic | thanks |
| 17:54.24 | antgel | abrotman: good question! yep, it does indeed recognize a music cd in banshee when i insert it |
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| 17:54.50 | abrotman | antgel: well .. i'd guess it's something else (i've not used banshee to burn CDs before) |
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| 17:55.50 | antgel | abrotman: don't suppose you have a cd-r to test with? |
| 17:56.01 | abrotman | antgel: i'm not going to waste oil! |
| 17:56.10 | abrotman | antgel: no, not anywhere that i can see |
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| 17:56.14 | antgel | abrotman: but you're american <drumroll> |
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| 17:56.38 | abrotman | antgel: if you run it from a terminal, any error messages ? |
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| 17:58.32 | antgel | abrotman: i do, no errors at all. banshee in particular writes an obscene amount of bollocks to stdout |
| 17:58.40 | antgel | no errors though |
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| 17:58.53 | abrotman | GDK warnings i guess ? |
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| 18:00.23 | Snadder | How do I know if I have a dvdr burner which supports dvd9 |
| 18:01.13 | antgel | abrotman: nope, "info" lines in green and "warn" lines in yellow when it can't find some gnome bloatware or other e.g. GNOME Settings Daemon WTFF |
| 18:02.05 | abrotman | yay brasero! |
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| 18:08.38 | mesaGL | there's actually a gnome settings daemon helper too .... |
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| 18:09.32 | moqq | is there a simple way to prevent a daemon from starting up immediately after installation when calling apt-get? (e.g. apache2) |
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| 18:12.19 | valdyn | moqq: probably touch /etc/init.d/apache2 |
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| 18:13.00 | moqq | would that prevent it from writing the init script altogether? |
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| 18:13.17 | vincent_ | create a fake httpd.conf |
| 18:13.25 | valdyn | fake? |
| 18:13.34 | valdyn | debians apache2 does not need httpd.conf |
| 18:13.42 | Sessl | hi .. i have a problem with multitail on lenny (uptodate) but only on my VServer. On my local machine multitail works fine. Don't find any thing about this error msg. anyone an idea? >> http://pastebin.com/d41e659d |
| 18:13.56 | abrotman | moqq: does it really matter? |
| 18:14.04 | valdyn | moqq: why would you bother though? why would trying to starting apache2 be a problem? |
| 18:14.11 | vincent_ | touch /etc/apache2/httpd.conf |
| 18:14.16 | vincent_ | my lenny use |
| 18:14.25 | justin | Sessl: you are not running the same program on both machines |
| 18:14.27 | valdyn | vincent_: thats what debian already does, touching it wont change it |
| 18:14.30 | antgel | mesaGL: sounds delightful |
| 18:14.34 | abrotman | moqq: if you don't want people to access it, use iptables ? |
| 18:14.42 | vincent_ | apt-get |
| 18:14.48 | vincent_ | sorry apache2.conf |
| 18:15.01 | valdyn | people arent going to break anything in the 5 seconds between installing and stopping |
| 18:15.02 | justin | !wayttd moqq |
| 18:15.02 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, moqq? |
| 18:15.15 | vincent_ | if you have alreayd created it, apt-get will not overwrite |
| 18:15.22 | moqq | valdyn: well, i was using apache as an example. really, i'm concerned about mysql. the installation is done automatically and the code that syncs up the mysql data directory might not yet be finished |
| 18:15.53 | abrotman | moqq: mysql doesn't listen remotely on installation, you have to change that |
| 18:16.09 | moqq | it has nothing to do with remote connections |
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| 18:16.21 | Sessl | justin : what you mean, not running the same program? i removed redownloaded and reinstalled it |
| 18:16.34 | justin | Sessl: on both systems? |
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| 18:16.55 | Sessl | on the machine where multitail is not working |
| 18:17.07 | justin | great, so you reinstalled the same different program |
| 18:17.14 | justin | what program are you actually running on your desktop? |
| 18:17.41 | hark | moqq: yes, using policy-rc.d |
| 18:17.58 | mesaGL | moqq: can i suggest that you speak to your people, and when the deal is ready, then install |
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| 18:18.46 | Sessl | the local lenny runs at work .. the installation is the same aptitude install multitail and the command is still the same |
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| 18:19.40 | moqq | hark: okay, thanks |
| 18:19.46 | Sessl | i've downloaded the *.deb file from the debian.org download page .. and i removed it with purge command .. |
| 18:20.16 | mesaGL | hark: which package is policy-rc.d in ? |
| 18:20.24 | Sessl | is there a problem with a missing file? |
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| 18:20.58 | hark | mesaGL: /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.policy-rc.d.gz |
| 18:21.49 | justin | Sessl: you are not running the multitail that comes with debian. |
| 18:22.17 | Sessl | how can i figure it out? |
| 18:22.38 | justin | which multitail |
| 18:22.42 | oblu | anyone help with udev 146-6 ? stuck in boot initramfs |
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| 18:23.21 | Sessl | >> /usr/local/bin/multitail |
| 18:23.37 | justin | there you go |
| 18:23.45 | mesaGL | hark: i'm still none the wiser. is there an actual package out there that contains this elusive script ? |
| 18:24.01 | bluesceada | what is the proposed solution in debian lenny to suspend to ram and suspend to disk? |
| 18:24.08 | bluesceada | powersaved? |
| 18:24.10 | bluesceada | apci-support? |
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| 18:24.37 | salvin | what happens if i have kernel without apic? |
| 18:25.11 | bluesceada | it's maybe more overhead as you dont use advanced interrupt mechanisms |
| 18:25.13 | jair | guys. I have a clean server just running samba, not need for X or anything like that. But by mistake I ssh to the sever thinking it was another client laptop and installed the packages "xorg, xorg-dev, gnome-core and gnome-themes" right after the install finished I ran the command "apt-get remove --purge xorg, xorg-dev, gnome-core and gnome-themes. How can I checl make sure that all those unnnecessary pakckages were removed? dpkg -l? |
| 18:25.30 | hark | mesaGL: no, if you don't have it you create it yourself |
| 18:25.45 | mesaGL | haha. priceless |
| 18:25.46 | Xenguy | Q. Are there any recommended alternatives to 'multitail', or is it the better software for that kind of thing? |
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| 18:26.15 | justin | jair: /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 18:26.19 | hark | mesaGL: the README tells you what to do |
| 18:26.23 | themill | jair: checking the aptitude logs would be the most reliable way. "/msg dpkg uninstall everything" might help |
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| 18:28.00 | bluesceada | anyone can guide me to somewhere about different suspend methods and what would be the one to use in debian lenny? |
| 18:28.07 | bluesceada | i liked the old way, just being able to set acpi-support etc |
| 18:28.13 | bluesceada | it seems not to be useable anymore |
| 18:28.23 | bluesceada | (setting events in /etc/acpi/events) |
| 18:28.25 | jair | themill: what do you mean uninstall everything? |
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| 18:28.34 | jair | justin: checking that |
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| 18:28.56 | themill | dpkg: tell jair about uninstall everything |
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| 18:29.17 | mesaGL | hark: do you have an example to show for stupid people like me ? |
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| 18:29.56 | jair | themill: I got the dpkg log |
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| 18:30.06 | jair | themill: I can see the time and the list of packages |
| 18:30.10 | themill | jair: so if it's just samba that should be left on it, something like "aptitude purge ~i ~pstandard+ ~prequired+ ~pimportant+ ~nsamba:" might just work out..." |
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| 18:33.18 | jair | themill: well that is not exactly what I want to do I just want to remove what it was installed from the command => apt-get install xorg xorg-dev gnome-core gnome-themes |
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| 18:33.41 | jair | themill: I have some other packages cool on the server I want like less, vim, ssh rsync |
| 18:33.44 | Sessl | justin : i get no other file like this Hole:1 ftp://ftp2.de.debian.org lenny/main multitail 5.2.2-1 [142kB] |
| 18:33.44 | justin | jair: use the dpkg log |
| 18:33.59 | justin | Sessl: ugh |
| 18:34.01 | jair | justin: I can see the log file so how do i remove them? |
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| 18:34.12 | justin | Sessl: whoever is the actual admin on this box installed another program called multitail in /usr/local/bin |
| 18:34.17 | jair | justin: I have the file you told me to look for. I found it and have the list |
| 18:34.26 | themill | jair: if this is lenny, then apt-get remove should do that for you no worries. |
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| 18:35.27 | jair | themill: I ran this apt-get remove --purge xorg xorg-dev gnome-core gnome-themes but it was so quick that I am not sure if removed all the crap...:-( |
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| 18:35.48 | justin | jair: grep '2009-11-04' /var/log/dpkg.log|grep ' install '|cut -d ' ' -f 4 |
| 18:35.54 | justin | jair: that print out the list of packages? |
| 18:36.12 | jair | justin: ohhhh nice :) |
| 18:36.33 | jair | one sec |
| 18:37.05 | mesaGL | or awk '{print $4}', which is more robust, as it handles tabs as well |
| 18:37.31 | justin | or cut which is easier to type and does what you tell it to do |
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| 18:38.30 | mesaGL | justin: hey, whatever works for you buddy. i was only kibitzing anyways |
| 18:38.42 | jair | justin: that just printed out a list with "installed" and half-installed and not-installed :( |
| 18:38.49 | jair | justin: but not the names... |
| 18:39.12 | justin | you didn't run the command I told you to run |
| 18:39.27 | naquad | are there any splash screens other than splashy and usplash? |
| 18:39.30 | jair | grep '2009-11-04' /var/log/dpkg.log|grep ' install '|cut -d ' ' -f 4 |
| 18:39.36 | jair | justin: that command right |
| 18:39.42 | justin | yes |
| 18:39.51 | justin | if you did grep ' install ' then how is it printing half-installed ? |
| 18:40.14 | jair | let me paste it exactly as you gace it to me |
| 18:40.45 | justin | either way, you should be able to fix it, just start with grep '2009-11-04' /var/log/dpkg.log and add stuff until you have what you want |
| 18:41.07 | justin | technically you can just feed the entire file to dpkg, it will just complain 'attempt to remove blah which is not installed' |
| 18:41.13 | mesaGL | naquad: not really |
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| 18:41.33 | jair | justin: I get a list of packages now |
| 18:41.36 | hark | mesaGL: an example for what case? |
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| 18:41.52 | naquad | mesaGL, crap :( they both are failing with console-cyrillic and i wanted splash so much :( |
| 18:42.07 | jair | justin: are those the packages installed? |
| 18:42.19 | justin | jair: grep '2009-11-04' /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 18:42.22 | justin | jair: what do you think that does? |
| 18:42.27 | mesaGL | hark: i was just being facetious. thanks for your valuable contribution |
| 18:42.49 | jair | justin: it gets the packages installed today |
| 18:43.13 | jair | justin: and yes that is the only thing I run today on that machine and it was a mistake |
| 18:43.33 | jair | justin: so i just need to run apt-get remove * <list> |
| 18:43.41 | justin | uh huh |
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| 18:44.10 | jair | justin: now that I have the list, is that the list of packages installed? |
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| 18:44.18 | justin | headdesk |
| 18:44.36 | moqq | argh |
| 18:44.45 | themill | !comfort justin |
| 18:44.45 | dpkg | There, there, justin. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 18:45.03 | jair | justin: you are telling me to run commands but you are not telling me what they do? |
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| 18:45.28 | justin | jair: correct. I'm expecting you to think for yourself |
| 18:45.36 | jair | justin: it looks like will grep all the files installed? or what happened before I ran the command apt-get remove --purge |
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| 18:46.08 | moqq | the pretty ncurses GUI displays taht dpkg-reconfigure gives are completely messed up. i'm connected to the system inside of a screen (e.g. screen -> ssh) and TERM says "screen". anyone know what i can do to try to fix this? i've install ncurses-term... |
| 18:46.25 | moqq | i've installed* |
| 18:46.26 | justin | moqq: messed up? |
| 18:46.40 | jair | justin: ok I am asking you now, does that mean that that list of packages are still installed on my system after run the command apt-get remove --purge xorg xorg-dev gnome-core and gnome-themes? |
| 18:47.06 | justin | jair: no, that is the dpkg log. |
| 18:47.24 | justin | jair: that is the complete list of packages you installed today |
| 18:48.07 | jair | ok. but I ran the apt-get remove --purge. The only way this helps is myself testing dpkg -r each of those packages? |
| 18:48.17 | justin | ugh |
| 18:48.18 | mesaGL | jair: did you really run that command ? |
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| 18:48.38 | justin | if only you had some kind of system that could automate the execution of a large number of commands |
| 18:48.45 | moqq | justin: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/2661135/dpkg.gif |
| 18:49.05 | jair | GOD!!!!!!!!! I did run the command apt-get remove --purge xorg xorg-dev gnome-core and gnome-themes!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 18:49.20 | abrotman | you did! |
| 18:49.36 | jair | what is so hard to understand!!! ? I am asking how can I verify that all the packages were removed!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:49.45 | justin | jair: by removing them |
| 18:49.58 | zleap | dpkg -q perhaps not sure, synaptic will tell you what was removed, |
| 18:49.58 | dpkg | zleap: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 18:50.11 | jair | so you are telling me that the only way to remove them is going package by packge with apt-get remove????? |
| 18:50.15 | justin | ugh |
| 18:50.25 | peterrooney | jair: after running a command, run "echo $?" an it will tell you the exit code of the last command you ran. if it is zero, all is good. |
| 18:50.31 | justin | peterrooney: fail |
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| 18:50.44 | jair | stop saying ugh! it is really pissing me off! sounds like you are not an english speaker or something. |
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| 18:51.07 | justin | jair: do you still have the command that prints out the list of packages you installed today? |
| 18:51.14 | jair | yes |
| 18:51.15 | Xenguy | .oO(goodbye Mr. Anderson) |
| 18:51.19 | jair | justin: yes |
| 18:51.27 | justin | jair: add |xargs to the end of that, what happens? |
| 18:51.39 | jair | justin: one sec |
| 18:52.02 | peterrooney | jair perhaps apt-get autoremove would help with your original issue, namely that a whole bunch of dependancies were einstalled. |
| 18:52.10 | jair | justin: now instead of a column is horizontal |
| 18:52.23 | jair | peterrooney: tried |
| 18:52.26 | justin | jair: great, now that you have that nice list of packages all on one line, what do you think you should do? |
| 18:52.28 | jair | peterrooney: did not work |
| 18:52.43 | jair | apt-get remove --purge list |
| 18:53.01 | justin | so you are able to think :) |
| 18:53.17 | jair | justin: I am asking if I need to add the --purge or not because I know that purge remove configurations as well. |
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| 18:53.28 | mesaGL | dpkg --get-selections | awk '{print $1}' will give a list of installed packages. as will ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list | cut -f6 -d/ | cut -f1 -d. |
| 18:53.28 | dpkg | mesaGL: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 18:53.33 | jair | justin: and I don't want to brake anything on the system |
| 18:53.43 | justin | jair: why would purging configurations for packages you didn't even mean to install in the first place be a problem? |
| 18:54.01 | Titan8990 | mesaGL, you shouldn't try to parse ls |
| 18:54.13 | jair | justin: :) |
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| 18:54.22 | jair | justin: thank you for been patient amigo |
| 18:54.32 | Titan8990 | mesaGL, http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs |
| 18:54.44 | peterrooney | jair: /var/log/dpkg.log can tell you what packages were installed when, in chronological order. what more do you need? |
| 18:54.51 | jair | justin: it is removing everything :) |
| 18:54.54 | justin | peterrooney: a lot of help apparently :) |
| 18:55.07 | jair | peterrooney: I am good thank you justin helped me |
| 18:55.09 | mesaGL | Titan8990: sometimes it is useful, but not often |
| 18:55.19 | justin | no, parsing ls is never useful |
| 18:55.24 | mesaGL | bollocks |
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| 18:56.12 | jelly | it's almost always a better idea to parse stat(1) or use find |
| 18:56.24 | mesaGL | that's like saying "all variables must be quoted". it is childish stupidity and shows nothing more than a willingness to obey, rather than an ability to think. there are some cases where it is necessary, but not many |
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| 18:56.50 | justin | necessary to parse ls? saying that it is neccesary is even worse than saying it is sometimes useful |
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| 18:56.54 | Titan8990 | mesaGL, and in what case does quoting the variable cause problems? |
| 18:56.59 | jair | justin: done. I saved your command very handy |
| 18:57.20 | jair | justin: thank you very much, I really need to get a bash book as soon ASAP :) |
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| 18:57.37 | Titan8990 | jair, check the /topic in #bash |
| 18:57.43 | jair | justin: very handy. It looks like all those packages were removed. Thank you so much again |
| 18:57.58 | JoshH | basically, with parsing ls, you just need to know what you're doing |
| 18:58.00 | mesaGL | Titan8990: in the case where the variable contains a list of packages, for example, and you don't *want* them treated as a single unit |
| 18:58.04 | rainy-day | When interface is set to be static in /etc/network/interfaces (instead of dhcp), is there some way to get dns servers automatically? |
| 18:58.06 | jair | Titan8990: thank you I will read the book first then interact with #bash |
| 18:58.08 | dkr | Titan8990: l: aliased to ls-F --color -hgG --dereference-command-line-symlink-to-dir !* | perl -pe "s/^[\w-]{10}\s+\d+//" |
| 18:58.53 | Titan8990 | dkr, I believe we were talking about bash |
| 18:58.57 | peterrooney | I'm having all sound stop when I switch away from my X session to vt1 - media players continue as usual, just no audio output. how can I have sound remain active? |
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| 18:59.39 | peterrooney | oddly, if i start, say, xine from vt2 (by exporting DISPLAY), I can switch to and from X without interruption to the sound. |
| 18:59.41 | mikejw | when I remove /var/www/index.html and try to navigate to http://localhost I'm prompted to download file names "~". How do I stop this? |
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| 18:59.59 | dkr | Titan8990: I believe you were talking about parsing ls. :) feel free to translate the tcsh alias to a bash function if it makes you happy. :) |
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| 19:00.35 | mesaGL | anyone else going to try and impress me with their "advanced knowledge" ? i mean thanks guys, and all that, but before you start giving advice, make sure it is correct and not just second or third-hand *crap* |
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| 19:00.52 | peterrooney | mikejw: have you turned on fancyindexing? |
| 19:00.55 | dkr | mesaGL: welcome to irc |
| 19:01.22 | antgel | mesaGL: the beatles split up! |
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| 19:01.47 | mikejw | peterrooney, you mean within the 'default' vhost file? |
| 19:01.51 | dkr | mesaGL: you can use aptitude search options to avoid that dpkg output parsing you were doing above. :) |
| 19:02.54 | JoshH | why are those methods you mentioned better than simply dpkg -l |awk '{print $2}' |
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| 19:03.43 | peterrooney | mikejw: nope, i meant in httpd.conf - and i think that you can use a2eenmod to do so as well. |
| 19:04.26 | peterrooney | mikejw: whoops, i meant a2enmod |
| 19:05.14 | mesaGL | JoshH: well ... there is the issue of files that were removed but not purged. the question has many answers. i gave two reasonable alternatives |
| 19:05.23 | dkr | JoshH: one command is better than two? :) aptitude search -F %p ~i |
| 19:05.36 | mesaGL | dkr: yeah ok. i get the message. peace bro :) |
| 19:05.38 | JoshH | heh, nice |
| 19:05.45 | JoshH | i'm one of those guys that still doesn't use aptitude |
| 19:05.46 | teknicali | what's wrong with peterrooney? |
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| 19:06.33 | rainy-day | why would a system have a lan address 10.0.1.16 instead of usual 192.168.1.x ? It was not set specifically to that ip... |
| 19:06.45 | dkr | more flexible, too, since you can manipulate the output to format it however you like, and you can select by lots of different criteria. worth checking out, I think. :) |
| 19:07.00 | peterrooney | teknicali: I started learning about linux on powerpc? that left scars. |
| 19:07.33 | dkr | rainy-day: dhcp assigned it? |
| 19:07.38 | AimHere | rainy-day, isn't that just one of the other subnets. I forget which is class A and which is class C, but it's just someone who thinks their LAN might grow beyond 65000 nodes ;) |
| 19:07.47 | dkr | rainy-day: 10.0.1.16 is a perfectl valid private net address, too |
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| 19:08.20 | AimHere | THere's also 17.foo as well as 10.foo and 192.168.foo |
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| 19:08.27 | jelly | !rfc1918 |
| 19:08.27 | dpkg | rfc1918 is probably Address Allocation for Private Internets. Y. Rekhter, B. Moskowitz, D. Karrenberg, G. J. de Groot & E. Lear. February 1996. (Format: TXT=22270 bytes) (Obsoletes RFC1627, RFC1597) (Also BCP0005) (Status: BEST CURRENT PRACTICE) |
| 19:08.36 | jelly | eh, not that useful |
| 19:08.40 | dkr | heh |
| 19:08.52 | rainy-day | dkr, AimHere: I've never seen that address and it got assigned after I used dhcp option to set an 'alias' to a static ip |
| 19:09.25 | jelly | rainy-day: so you have a dhcp server on that segment assigning addresses from that range. |
| 19:09.28 | rainy-day | 1918 means that rfc was published right after 1917 revolution? :) |
| 19:09.34 | abrotman | AimHere: 172 .. not 17 |
| 19:09.47 | dkr | and 10.0.foo :) |
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| 19:09.59 | jelly | dkr: no, 10.foo is all right |
| 19:10.04 | rainy-day | jelly: well static address I aliased was something like 192.168.1.83 |
| 19:10.18 | dkr | oh, i thought it was a class a, a class b and a calss c. I guess I should actually looka t rfc1918, heh |
| 19:10.19 | AimHere | Eek, so it is |
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| 19:10.25 | hargut | I've a little OT question: can anyone recommend a webcam which works flawless under linux/debian? |
| 19:10.34 | jelly | rainy-day: ask your network admins about rogue dhcp servers! |
| 19:10.47 | GNU\colossus | hargut: any UVC-compliant one does |
| 19:10.50 | hargut | oh, hello first. :) |
| 19:10.51 | GNU\colossus | (USB Video Class) |
| 19:10.53 | rainy-day | and the system also stopped connecting to lan or to internet & is not available over ssh & that's the only way I can access it.. it doesn't have keyboard or monitor.. |
| 19:10.56 | hargut | GNU\colossus: thanks! |
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| 19:11.38 | jelly | rainy-day: this was to be expected since it probably got a new default gateway entry from the dhcp server |
| 19:11.55 | mikejw | peterrooney, if I put 'Options indexes' into /etc/apache2/httpd.conf it doens't help and I'm not sure which module you're referring to :S |
| 19:12.05 | jelly | rainy-day: I suggest asking about dhcp workings in ##networking, none of this is Debian specific |
| 19:12.09 | Sessl | justin : thx for your help .. after edit the $PATH first /usr/bin then /usr/local/bin multitail works fine |
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| 19:12.48 | dkr | jelly: ah, 10/8, 172.16/12, 192.168/16 I just had the order wrong. :) |
| 19:12.51 | rainy-day | jelly: ok thanks.. I didn't know about ##networking |
| 19:13.14 | mikejw | I think it's something that's probably locked down but this is just for local development |
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| 19:14.03 | jelly | dkr: um... you don't need to tell me this, I kinda know about those. |
| 19:14.32 | mikejw | also I could be in the wrong channel, this is an ubuntu system :) |
| 19:14.43 | _echa | how can i append to the end of a specific line in a file, using awk or sed? |
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| 19:15.17 | dkr | jelly: uhm,, you don't need to tell us all about everything you know. we'd be here all day. :) I was just clarifying my own screw up that you corrected earlier |
| 19:16.00 | _echa | i tried this: awk '/User=/{print;print "something";next;next+;print}' .ssh/config |
| 19:16.06 | jelly | mikejw: yeah, #ubuntu is right over there --> |
| 19:16.23 | _echa | as you can see I want to script adding a username to the ssh_config file |
| 19:16.35 | jelly | _echa: what is "next+" supposed to do? |
| 19:16.50 | _echa | typo |
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| 19:17.52 | _echa | ..thing";next;print}' .ssh/config |
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| 19:19.33 | _echa | that command just printed my "something" on the next line |
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| 19:19.52 | _echa | I guess I want to stop awk from doing a newline after the first print |
| 19:19.58 | _echa | but i'm not sure how |
| 19:20.12 | abrotman | there is a #awk and a #sed |
| 19:20.18 | _echa | yes |
| 19:20.22 | _echa | i'll go there |
| 19:20.31 | _echa | thought since i was already here i'd ask |
| 19:20.42 | _echa | (and it is on debian :-) ) |
| 19:21.14 | naquad | how do i make gpm to work with 2 mices? (i've got a netbook so there's a touchpad and external mouse) |
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| 19:27.05 | dkr | naquad: you could use /dev/input/mice it aggregates the various events |
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| 19:27.22 | dkr | (instead of /dev/input/mouse0 and mouse2 separately |
| 19:27.27 | dkr | er mouse1, :) |
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| 19:28.08 | naquad | dkr, i'm trying. external mouse works, but touchpad isn't |
| 19:28.14 | jamon | i've got an lvm cluster setup, can't seem to get /dev/mapper entries for mv logical volumes to be created though, is it a matter of using dmsetup, MAKEDEV? any kvm ninjas around? |
| 19:28.27 | jamon | s/kvm/lvm |
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| 19:29.13 | rainy-day | if I have debian 3.1 without apache or mailserver or anything else running, just sshd, - should I worry about someone compromising it? |
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| 19:30.15 | jamon | rainy-day: you should always worry about it |
| 19:30.23 | AuthoBoot | rainy-day: you need to install kernel >.30 |
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| 19:30.38 | AimHere | There are worms and botnets out there that target ssh with dictionary password attacks |
| 19:31.04 | abrotman | you might want to address rainy-day |
| 19:31.08 | jamon | esp. since sarge is long since deprecated with security updates |
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| 19:31.49 | asg | rainy-day: http://www.debian.org/security/2008/dsa-1571 will was not patched for sarge |
| 19:32.41 | abrotman | asg: that's a nice one eh? |
| 19:32.50 | asg | abrotman: yeah, that was a fun day |
| 19:32.51 | AuthoBoot | i need to edit grub wich file is it the grub.conf file or the menu.list ? |
| 19:33.08 | abrotman | asg: but you left out the uh .. recent kernel on |
| 19:33.09 | abrotman | one |
| 19:33.15 | abrotman | AuthoBoot: grub1 or grub2 ? |
| 19:33.23 | AuthoBoot | a dont know |
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| 19:33.36 | rainy-day | asg: and ssh is using openssl right? |
| 19:33.39 | asg | rainy-day: yes |
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| 19:34.03 | AuthoBoot | I dont know |
| 19:34.35 | AuthoBoot | the name of the directory is just grub |
| 19:34.56 | Sessl | should tail -f /var/log/file.log | grep "ERROR" | mail -s "Error!" mail@home.com working?? |
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| 19:35.09 | AuthoBoot | can i boot an iso files directlly _ |
| 19:35.55 | AuthoBoot | can i boot an iso files directlly ? |
| 19:36.05 | AuthoBoot | from grub |
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| 19:36.55 | Snadder | If I change io scheduler with echoing to /sys/block/sdb/queue/scheduler.. do I have to do this again after a reboot? |
| 19:36.58 | bzrk | hey all has anyone experienced crashes with 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)' on testing recently? |
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| 19:37.06 | bzrk | Snadder: set it in sysctl.conf |
| 19:37.13 | bzrk | its not reboot safe otherwise |
| 19:37.32 | cahoot | Snadder: IIRC you can pass the option on the kernel line in grub |
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| 19:38.37 | schmrz | Hello Everyone! Can someone help me, uname -i is returning "unknown" for unknown reasons :) |
| 19:39.11 | justin | schmrz: is that a problem? |
| 19:39.13 | JPT | jp@JPT:~/dev$ uname -i |
| 19:39.13 | JPT | unknown |
| 19:39.14 | bzrk | schmrz: thats normal on debian |
| 19:39.25 | AuthoBoot | can grub boot an iso files directlly ? |
| 19:39.28 | AuthoBoot | can grub boot an iso file directlly ? |
| 19:39.40 | JPT | AuthoBoot: no |
| 19:39.45 | justin | it can't? |
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| 19:39.50 | schmrz | For some reason thsi silly text game I have can't configure properly because of it :) |
| 19:39.59 | JPT | i don't think it can |
| 19:40.09 | bzrk | AuthoBoot: theres a version that supposedly can, but if you are unable to google it i dont have much hope for you |
| 19:40.30 | AuthoBoot | theres an iso9660_stage1_5 |
| 19:40.41 | schmrz | bzrk, justin: this is why -> "checking build system type... Invalid configuration `x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu': machine `x86_64-unknown' not recognized" |
| 19:40.56 | schmrz | What should I get from that, I will insert it manualy... |
| 19:44.07 | bzrk | schmrz: its probably easier to remove the check from the build |
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| 19:44.43 | Sessl | should >> tail -f /var/log/file.log | grep "ERROR" | mail -s "Error!" mail@home.com << working?? |
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| 19:46.22 | Snadder | bzrk, cahoot Do you know how fool proof changing io scheduler is?.. I have alot of io to the hardrives going on.. should I stop this when changing? |
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| 19:47.15 | bzrk | Snadder: ive only changed the scheduöer to deadline io for databases and never had any problems there |
| 19:47.20 | bzrk | scheduler* |
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| 19:47.49 | abrotman | Sessl: what do you think that will do ? |
| 19:48.01 | bzrk | Sessl: i think this will always send a mail |
| 19:48.34 | bzrk | and you need to send the output rather than pipe it |
| 19:48.36 | Sessl | yes i hope it send always a mail .. but it won't work |
| 19:48.50 | bzrk | tail -f /var/log/file.log | grep "ERROR" > mail -s "Error!" mail@home.com |
| 19:49.27 | bzrk | as i said however you will get a mail at any run, not just errors |
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| 19:49.33 | ranma | woah |
| 19:49.38 | ranma | it's a party in here |
| 19:49.55 | ranma | so I'm considering debian to install on a machine |
| 19:50.07 | ranma | here's what I've got to think about |
| 19:50.09 | schmrz | bzrk: that won't work... |
| 19:51.35 | ranma | the machine has no video output, it's only accessable over ethernet, i have a 20 gig hdd to use for the os install (that should be plenty), then specs are; P4 2.8ghz cpu, 3gigs ram. |
| 19:51.40 | rainy-day | asg: that advisory says 'the old stable sarge distribution is not affected' |
| 19:52.42 | ranma | I would like this box to run some or all following network services; openvpn server, ssh/sftp, http server, and anything else fun |
| 19:52.45 | Sessl | bzrk : works not really .. :( |
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| 19:52.48 | ranma | can debian do all that? |
| 19:53.27 | jamon | ranma: and then some |
| 19:53.40 | bzrk | Sessl: yeah my fault |
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| 19:53.55 | ranma | jamon: that's good to here. |
| 19:54.42 | ranma | My main concern is getting it to boot up with stable ssh access the first boot after the install (which I'm doing on a machine with a video card) |
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| 19:55.17 | ranma | basically install from a usb stick/iso then insert the drive in a machine and boot |
| 19:55.25 | abrotman | !ssh install |
| 19:55.26 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ssh install is http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch06s03.html#di-miscellaneous or [obsolete] http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html See also <debootstrap>. |
| 19:55.27 | ranma | network is a LAN, dchp is fine. |
| 19:55.28 | ranma | =) |
| 19:55.57 | ranma | can anyone point me to a iso that would be best for all this? |
| 19:56.27 | ranma | I was also considering ubuntu server edition |
| 19:56.50 | ranma | does that boot up with ssh running after the inital install? |
| 19:57.02 | ranma | (if you tell it too of course) |
| 19:57.10 | abrotman | ranma: does what do that? Debian or Ubuntu ? |
| 19:57.19 | ranma | either |
| 19:57.35 | abrotman | no idea about ubuntu, read the installation manual to learn about how the ssh thing works |
| 19:57.55 | ranma | I dealing with a box with no video so I don't want to have to deal with anything that would require eyes on that machine |
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| 19:58.07 | ranma | I'll take a look |
| 19:59.21 | ranma | oh that guide reminds me of another problem |
| 19:59.29 | ranma | hardware detection |
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| 20:00.15 | ranma | since I can only boot and install an os (debian) from another machine, that create a problem with hardware right? |
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| 20:00.23 | ranma | or will debain be ok? |
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| 20:00.57 | ranma | I'm used to seeing boot cd's work on just about everything, but idk if it's then same with booting off a disk |
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| 20:01.11 | ranma | :/ |
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| 20:05.53 | Moose | For some reason when setting up public key authentication with SSH, it fails for one of my accounts that is in sudoers but not for an account that is not in sudoers. |
| 20:06.09 | EZmoney | is away: --------AFK> |
| 20:06.23 | Moose | Using the exact same setup procedure, file permissions, and key... it works on one account (not a sudoer) but not on another (sudoer). |
| 20:06.26 | Moose | Any thoughts? |
| 20:07.36 | jamon | Moose: /var/log/auth.log show anything? |
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| 20:08.01 | Moose | jamon: Let me see, one moment. |
| 20:08.17 | Moose | jamon: Nope. |
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| 20:08.56 | abrotman | !tell EZmoney about away |
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| 20:09.32 | EZmoney | is back (gone 00:03:23) |
| 20:09.37 | EZmoney | ok |
| 20:10.13 | abrotman | thank you |
| 20:10.16 | Moose | jamon: Actually auth.log is completely empty, heh. |
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| 20:12.30 | jamon | Moose: well you'll need some logging to figure it out |
| 20:12.49 | Moose | Detailed logging isn't enabled by default? |
| 20:13.00 | jamon | Moose: you should have rsyslogd installed and running |
| 20:13.30 | murphi | hi, I would like to compile a kde4 package. CMake tells me Qt is compiled without support for fvisibility=hidden. I'm using libqt4-* version 4.5.3-4 from the squeeze repositories. |
| 20:13.31 | jamon | unless someone has changed things, rsyslogd *will* log by default |
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| 20:14.18 | murphi | Is there any other solution than recompiling qt? |
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| 20:16.56 | Moose | jamon: http://pastebin.ca/1657217 so it logged, but I don't have any clue as to why this is happening. |
| 20:17.17 | pipegeek | so, say there's an 8-disk mdadm raid5. |
| 20:17.36 | pipegeek | say half the disks are managed by one sata controller, and half by another |
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| 20:17.57 | pipegeek | now say one of those sata controllers abruptly stops responding. |
| 20:18.23 | justin | then you are going to be wishing you were running raid10 |
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| 20:18.29 | pipegeek | hahaha |
| 20:18.30 | pipegeek | indeed |
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| 20:19.38 | pipegeek | but what I was going to say was: |
| 20:19.57 | pipegeek | the dead sata controller was replaced. The four drives were force-readded to the array. |
| 20:20.08 | pipegeek | We're fscking the result now |
| 20:20.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | and your point is? |
| 20:20.49 | pipegeek | but what seems bizarre is that what appears to have happened is that three of the disks were more or less assumed to be good, and the fourth was rebuilt using the four good drives and the three questionable ones |
| 20:20.54 | pipegeek | this seems odd and arbitrary |
| 20:21.05 | naquad | where can i find list of fonts for linux console with preview ? |
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| 20:21.46 | cusco | hi |
| 20:21.47 | cusco | what package provides javac ? |
| 20:21.47 | pipegeek | why should three of the drives be considered more authoritative than the fourth? |
| 20:22.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell cusco -about apt-file |
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| 20:22.26 | cusco | CutMeOwnThroat: I know about apt-file |
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| 20:22.53 | cusco | apt-file gives me: Can't get http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/dists/lenny-proposed-updates/Contents-i386.gz |
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| 20:22.58 | cusco | and Can't get http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/Contents-i386.gz |
| 20:23.02 | cusco | :( |
| 20:23.04 | cusco | but ok |
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| 20:23.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | replace that mirror, then? |
| 20:23.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | lenny-proposed-updates? |
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| 20:24.21 | pipegeek | oh. because that's the only way to ensure that the array is internally consistent, even if the data's been lost |
| 20:24.54 | Jouva | I'm trying to setup a 6in4 tunnel from he.net on a debian server that doesn't have route2's tools installed. I'm not entirely sure I want to install them yet though but I want to have the tunnel setup in /etc/network/interfaces so how should I go about doing this? |
| 20:24.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | it is? |
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| 20:25.39 | jamon | pipegeek, CutMeOwnThroat, yes, raid5 assumes only 1 drive fails since that is all it can recover from |
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| 20:26.06 | cusco | Jouva: thares an entry at wiki.debian.org about ipv6 tunneled trough ipv4 and there is a package miredo |
| 20:26.06 | jamon | (100% recovery that is) |
| 20:26.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes,that's rather clear... it's not made for failure of more than one disk |
| 20:26.19 | Jouva | cusco: Yes but that uses route2's tools |
| 20:26.25 | Sessl | can anyone give me the correct syntax >> tail -f /var/log/file.log | grep "ERROR" | mail -s "Error!" mail@home.com |
| 20:26.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | still, you wonder what the sanest behavior would be for such a... multidisk non-permanent "failure" |
| 20:26.44 | Jouva | I guess I _COULD_ install route2, but I'm not sure what impcact that will have on anything |
| 20:27.13 | cusco | Jouva: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6 |
| 20:27.41 | Jouva | Again |
| 20:27.45 | Jouva | You didn't read what I said :) |
| 20:27.50 | Jouva | I don't have route2 installed |
| 20:27.53 | Jouva | So I can't do "ip" |
| 20:28.25 | JoshH | install it |
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| 20:28.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | Sessl, that doesn't work because tail -f never exits and so neither would the grep or mail commands (and so the mail would become bigger and bigger on each occurance of "ERROR", but the mail would never be sent |
| 20:28.35 | justin | Jouva: so install it? |
| 20:28.41 | Jouva | The ip command doesn't exist unless I install route2. Is it easier/safer for me to find out what I need to change to make it work with net-tools or is it easier/safer to install route2 |
| 20:28.43 | billy | hello! i want to use acl's what do i need to install/do ? |
| 20:28.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | the syntax as such looks ok on a short glance |
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| 20:29.14 | Jouva | Cause I just wanted to make sure installing route2 won't break anything that's already setup and working |
| 20:29.37 | billy | all i can find is a tutorial that says to do this "cat /boot/config-2.6.15.1-386 | grep _ACL" to see if im capable, but that file doesnt exist |
| 20:29.44 | jamon | billy: man acl, getfacl, setfacl |
| 20:29.44 | IndyGunFreak | does anyone know where i can find info on the atheros ar242x?... |
| 20:29.54 | cusco | Jouva: if you read the section "IPv6 6to4 Configuration" there is no requirement for ip |
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| 20:30.14 | JoshH | i've done it with and without iproute (not route2) and it's fine either way, but you might as well just install iproute |
| 20:30.17 | Jouva | that's not what I'm using |
| 20:30.18 | billy | jamon, those do not exist |
| 20:30.20 | Jouva | I'm using 6in4 |
| 20:30.26 | Sessl | CutMeOwnThroat : is there a solution getting a mail if an error occurs in a log file? |
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| 20:30.43 | jamon | billy: apt-get install acl then |
| 20:30.53 | billy | jamon, k |
| 20:31.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | Sessl, look in /etc/syslog.conf |
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| 20:32.25 | Jouva | JoshH: Ok that's cool, but what I'm trying to find out is if it's safer to install the tools that give me the ip command to use, or if it's safer to not install them and then find out how to modify this example to work with what I do have installed |
| 20:32.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | Sessl, also "man syslog.conf" (search for mail) and possibly man syslogd (ditto) |
| 20:32.41 | JoshH | what the hell do you mean by safer |
| 20:32.51 | JoshH | for fuck's sake, just install iproute, it's good for a lot of things |
| 20:33.17 | Jouva | I'm just making sure that installing them won't suddenly break my machine and not let it have a proper IP if it gets rebooted is all |
| 20:33.22 | Sessl | CutMeOwnThroat : thx for the tip!!! ;) |
| 20:33.24 | JoshH | it won't |
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| 20:33.33 | JoshH | you have nothing to worry about |
| 20:33.33 | Jouva | There's the answer I was looking for! :P |
| 20:33.38 | JoshH | ok then :) |
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| 20:35.05 | jamon | how do i use dmsetup to create /dev/mapper entries for lvm volumes in a preexisting cluster? |
| 20:35.43 | justin | jamon: you shouldn't have to |
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| 20:36.17 | jamon | lvscan shows the updated volumes, but i have no devices in /dev |
| 20:36.49 | jamon | the volumes were created on another host, so i know clvm is working |
| 20:36.58 | justin | oh, that stuff? |
| 20:37.02 | Jouva | JoshH: and then for each IP I want in my /64, is this what I should put in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 20:37.04 | Jouva | up ip addr add $NEWIPV6ADDR/64 dev devname |
| 20:37.21 | Jouva | example of course :) |
| 20:37.23 | justin | maybe you have to run vgscan and vgchange with the -c option? |
| 20:37.25 | jamon | justin: yeah, if it was all local i'd expect that to work :) |
| 20:37.55 | justin | vgscan has an option to make the stuff in /dev |
| 20:38.22 | jamon | --mknodes, no luck there |
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| 20:40.17 | jamon | ah justin, got it: vgchange -a y HISAN (where hisan is the volume group name) |
| 20:40.39 | jamon | it created /dev/HISAN/ with volumes inside and proper /dev/mapper entries |
| 20:40.44 | jamon | thanks justin |
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| 20:42.40 | Jouva | Hmmm |
| 20:42.46 | NoReflex | Hey guys! I'm having some problems running sopcast...it gives /usr/bin/sp-sc: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory; I tried sudo ln -s /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 but even after that ldd /usr/bin/sp-sc gives libstdc++.so.5 => not found. Any ideas? |
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| 20:44.21 | Snadder | Should a viritual linux os always run with noop io scheduler? |
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| 20:45.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell NoReflex -about apt-file |
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| 20:45.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions libstdc++5 |
| 20:45.50 | judd | CutMeOwnThroat: libstdc++5 -- etch: 1:3.3.6-15 lenny: 1:3.3.6-18 |
| 20:46.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | !why is libstdc++5 not in testing |
| 20:46.15 | dpkg | libstdc++5 is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=libstdc++5 |
| 20:46.51 | hargut | thx |
| 20:46.52 | hargut | bye |
| 20:47.13 | IndyGunFreak | anyone experienced w/ setting up an Atheros wireless device... |
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| 20:48.16 | nsadmin | IndyGunFreak: tell the history. what you've done so far. |
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| 20:48.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | leads to: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=536776 |
| 20:48.51 | IndyGunFreak | nsadmin: started w/ madwifi, that didn't work.. |
| 20:49.05 | IndyGunFreak | which my understanding... madwifi was for atheros chipsets. |
| 20:49.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | NoReflex, you'll have to recompile this with gcc > 3.3 for squeeze and later, the libraries are still in lenny, though |
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| 20:49.44 | IndyGunFreak | nsadmin: so i took a loo at this.. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 20:50.01 | IndyGunFreak | but it kinda goes from "install the tools" which is fine.. to "install the driver".. and doesn't really say where the driver is. |
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| 20:50.54 | nsadmin | IndyGunFreak: is your device pci or usb or something else? |
| 20:51.05 | IndyGunFreak | pci... |
| 20:51.30 | nsadmin | ok, get the abcd:1234 number for it from lspci -nn |
| 20:51.46 | nsadmin | which is its pci id |
| 20:51.56 | IndyGunFreak | nsadmin: ok.. its gonna take a minute, because i don't have internet access on the machine. |
| 20:51.58 | jlund | I installed MySQL from backports.org on Lenny to test something and now would like to move back to the version in Lenny. I have removed all of the backports packages and removed the line from my apt/sources.list as well. When I try to install MySQL I now get this error: "Aborting downgrade from (at least) 5.1 to 5.0." Any ideas? |
| 20:52.18 | nsadmin | then feed it to judd like this: judd, pciid 1234:3214 |
| 20:52.33 | Titan8990 | !downgrade |
| 20:52.33 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. Also see <partial downgrade>, or <sdn>, or <unstable->testing> |
| 20:52.40 | IndyGunFreak | nsadmin: if you have about 15min, i'll run next door and get a short ethernet cable to run to the laptop... if that will make it easier |
| 20:53.04 | nsadmin | no, I have to leave now... you'll have which driver after you do that |
| 20:53.27 | IndyGunFreak | well, my device is in that list at the bottom of the wiki, and it says it uses ath5k |
| 20:53.28 | nsadmin | but yes, that will make it easier for you |
| 20:53.52 | IndyGunFreak | well, i'll go get it and maybe someone can help me with it easier.. i appreciate your time. |
| 20:53.55 | nsadmin | oh, and what happens when you modprobe ath5k? |
| 20:54.17 | IndyGunFreak | nsadmin: i never saw a step telling me to modprobe ath5k |
| 20:55.01 | nsadmin | if that works, you have the driver... then you have to make that happen every boot. if you know how, do it... otherwise find out how |
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| 20:55.30 | nsadmin | in any case, do get the eth cable |
| 20:55.44 | IndyGunFreak | nsadmin: so if i modprobe ath5k, it should start right up... if its working? |
| 20:56.23 | IndyGunFreak | yeah, i'll go get it, just getting info since you'll be gone |
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| 20:57.25 | Jouva | hmmm |
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| 20:58.12 | Jouva | I just followed the instructions for editing /etc/network/interfaces for my 6in4 tunnel, but I'm getting "SIOCGIFFLAGS: No such device" trying to bring it up with ifup |
| 20:58.30 | Jouva | Looks like it will bring it up with specific names like if I name it sit# for example |
| 20:58.52 | Jouva | But a custom name like everybody else is suggesting in examples such as "tun0" or "6in4" fails |
| 20:59.10 | NoReflex | CutMeOwnThroat: I resolved it by installing the i386 version of libstdc++5. with dpkg ..the amd64 version didn't work (i have a 64bit distro) |
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| 21:01.28 | masom | Hi, i am currently looking for instructions or utilities to write SMBios informations, anyone could point a direction (google is flooded with useless stuff) |
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| 21:04.44 | isleshocky77 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:04.58 | abrotman | isleshocky77: ask #ubuntu |
| 21:05.18 | isleshocky77 | abrotman: thanks. |
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| 21:10.25 | gdoteof | I have a brand new lenny vps at vpslink i am trying to get sun-java6-sdk package |
| 21:10.35 | gdoteof | when I run aptitude update, i get E: Could not open file /var/lib/aptitude/pkgstates.new |
| 21:10.47 | gdoteof | and there is no /var/lib/aptitude directory |
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| 21:12.11 | gdoteof | does anyone know why i wouldn't have a /var/lib/aptitude directory or what i need to do to be able to use aptitude? |
| 21:12.24 | TrueDD | Howdy |
| 21:12.52 | ferr | apt-get install aptitude ? |
| 21:12.58 | abrotman | gdoteof: but aptitude is installed ? |
| 21:13.05 | gdoteof | abrotman yes |
| 21:13.23 | gdoteof | if i run aptitude it brings me into the interactive app |
| 21:13.23 | abrotman | gdoteof: do you have a /var/backups/aptitude/ ? |
| 21:13.30 | gdoteof | but gives me that same error |
| 21:13.46 | gdoteof | abrotman, no |
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| 21:13.51 | gdoteof | ferr, i tried that |
| 21:14.02 | abrotman | gdoteof: interesting .. well .. /var/lib/aptitude/ should be 755 root:root |
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| 21:14.25 | gdoteof | abrotman, /var/lib/aptitude doesn't exist :( |
| 21:14.40 | abrotman | right .. mkdir -p /var/lib/aptitude/ |
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| 21:14.57 | gdoteof | mmkay |
| 21:14.58 | sts | hello folks. |
| 21:15.04 | sts | how do i generate a new /dev? |
| 21:15.18 | abrotman | reboot |
| 21:15.38 | cusco | how do I enable short tags (like <? ) in php in apache? |
| 21:15.49 | abrotman | cusco: they should be on by default |
| 21:15.56 | sts | even without devfs? |
| 21:15.59 | gdoteof | abrotman, lol i think that worked |
| 21:16.00 | sts | err udev? |
| 21:16.01 | cusco | yes /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini show them on |
| 21:16.07 | abrotman | sts: are you using debian ? |
| 21:16.11 | sts | abrotman: yes |
| 21:16.14 | cusco | but it doesn't seem to be working good |
| 21:16.21 | abrotman | sts: then unless you've tried very hard, you have udev |
| 21:16.32 | sts | abrotman: but i rsynced my system and left out /dev /sys and /proc |
| 21:16.41 | abrotman | okay .. so what? |
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| 21:17.18 | abrotman | sts: are you saying /dev/ isn't there at all ? |
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| 21:17.55 | sts | abrotman: yes |
| 21:18.30 | abrotman | sts: mkdir /dev/ .. reboot ? |
| 21:18.38 | sts | oh ok |
| 21:18.43 | sts | what about /sys? |
| 21:18.51 | sts | same? |
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| 21:19.04 | abrotman | sure .. why not |
| 21:19.14 | sts | ok. i wasn't sure about that point. |
| 21:19.17 | wooden | lol |
| 21:19.18 | sts | thank you |
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| 21:21.07 | abrotman | (he didn't ask about /proc/ |
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| 21:21.20 | sts | abrotman: i know about proc :P |
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| 21:23.29 | Titan8990 | sts, if you are missing /dev you probably want to: mkdir /dev; cd /dev; MAKEDEV generic |
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| 21:24.09 | gdoteof | how can I find the multiverse repositories for lenny? |
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| 21:24.31 | gdoteof | or do i use the ubuntu ones? |
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| 21:25.48 | localoca | is this the correct url for downloading weekly builds? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/ - there are no downloadlinks there |
| 21:25.50 | IndyGunFreak | gdoteof: well ic an almost assure you using ubuntu ones would not be a good idea. |
| 21:26.09 | gdoteof | indygunfreak, yeah it seems like a bad idea but everything i find on google is about how to do it :/ |
| 21:26.23 | IndyGunFreak | what are you tryin to do? |
| 21:26.33 | gdoteof | trying to get sun-java6-jdk |
| 21:26.38 | gdoteof | http://packages.debian.org/lenny/sun-java6-jdk |
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| 21:26.42 | IndyGunFreak | oh.. |
| 21:26.52 | IndyGunFreak | i thoughtt hat was in the repository for some reason. |
| 21:27.19 | gdoteof | it's in the multiverse repository for ubuntu it looks like it is in the non-free for debian |
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| 21:27.57 | _SKiTZO | im having problems with my ethernet bonding (active-backup) on lenny. everything seems to be working great but when I pull the cable the backup doesn't kick in |
| 21:28.00 | gdoteof | but it isn't making it easy for me to find out where the repository is |
| 21:28.02 | _SKiTZO | what can I do? |
| 21:28.43 | _SKiTZO | I have used this configuration guide: http://wiki.debian.org/Bonding |
| 21:29.12 | module000 | _SKiTZO: bonding isn't an HA solution fyi..are you sure you don't mean you are trying to setup failover? |
| 21:29.50 | module000 | _SKiTZO: n/m, the wiki just misdefines what bonding is |
| 21:29.58 | _SKiTZO | module000: well isn't that what active-backup ? |
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| 21:30.06 | _SKiTZO | mode is all about |
| 21:30.15 | _SKiTZO | having one nic ready to tkae over |
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| 21:30.37 | wildc4rd | evenin' all |
| 21:31.11 | module000 | _SKiTZO: we use it as load balanacing..but it's moot. i'm looking at the wiki now. when yo yankt he cable do you get any feedback in the logs? |
| 21:31.21 | abrotman | gdoteof: do NOT mix debian and ubuntu, it will break badly |
| 21:31.31 | module000 | _SKiTZO: or if you try to bring up the interface with that particular cable not present, do the logs complain? |
| 21:31.39 | abrotman | !tell gdoteof about non-free |
| 21:31.40 | gdoteof | abrotman, thanks |
| 21:31.42 | abrotman | !tell gdoteof about contrib |
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| 21:32.06 | gdoteof | abrotman, thanks i found the non-free repository |
| 21:32.22 | gdoteof | it's working now |
| 21:32.35 | gdoteof | ++abrotman |
| 21:32.38 | _SKiTZO | module000: dmesg iss full of bond0 this and thatl ink is up and down etc |
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| 21:32.50 | _SKiTZO | *that link |
| 21:33.03 | _SKiTZO | so it seems to atlesat notice that i pull the plug |
| 21:33.16 | module000 | _SKiTZO: but it's not sending traffic over the other interface by default? |
| 21:33.41 | _SKiTZO | module000: maybe its my way of testing that is bad. i start a ping and lett it run then pull the plug |
| 21:34.02 | _SKiTZO | the ping then hangs for a while before reporting "destination not reachable |
| 21:34.12 | _SKiTZO | stoping and starting the ping doesnt work either |
| 21:34.18 | _SKiTZO | neither does reinserting the plug |
| 21:34.28 | moqq | i just added "deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free" to my sources.list on a lenny machine because i need just one single package (and its deps) from 'unstable'... but now i do "apt-get upgrade" and it wants to update a ton of packages to the unstable. how do i make it install only the packages i explicitly specify from unstable? |
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| 21:35.32 | module000 | _SKiTZO: hrm....i really wish i had a 2nic setup to test out to troubleshoot with you |
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| 21:35.52 | Titan8990 | !tell moqq about ssb |
| 21:36.34 | moqq | hrm |
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| 21:36.56 | _SKiTZO | module000: i bought 4 nics today and a bunch of patch. I've used trunking/bonding before with great results but that was for performance. |
| 21:37.05 | module000 | _SKiTZO: does it work properly if you switch from active-backup to roundrobin or another bond type? |
| 21:37.13 | _SKiTZO | i will try |
| 21:37.20 | jelly-home | moqq: you can't install just one package from unstable, best to remove the deb line right now so you don't accidentally upgrade |
| 21:37.44 | jelly-home | moqq: there might be ready-made backports on backports.org |
| 21:37.53 | moqq | yeah, there's not |
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| 21:39.43 | module000 | _SKiTZO: looking at http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/bonding.htm at bottom of page it has some additional steps for debian bonding with 2.6 kerns |
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| 21:43.18 | mesula | Is it just me or is Ubuntu's new websync tool really buggy? |
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| 21:43.26 | Zenox | Trying to play an avi through vlc, but get this error "ffmpeg encoder error: cannot find encoder MPEG-2 Video". Anyone knows anything about it? |
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| 21:44.39 | hark | mesula: ask #ubuntu |
| 21:44.48 | mesula | hark: I'm banned there. |
| 21:44.53 | mesula | hark: For being offtopic... |
| 21:44.58 | azeem | mesula: your problem, then try a web forum |
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| 21:45.01 | AimHere | Oh, the irony |
| 21:45.07 | wooden | >< |
| 21:45.16 | mesula | azeem: I don't like web forums. |
| 21:45.24 | cusco | er.... how would I check for bandwidth usage on a certain port? |
| 21:45.30 | azeem | mesula: we don't like Ubuntu questions |
| 21:45.31 | hark | Zenox: don't use dmm packages |
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| 21:45.42 | azeem | mesula: now drop it, please |
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| 21:45.58 | jarda-wien | hello, has anybody tried to map the thinkpad fn key to mod4? |
| 21:45.59 | Zenox | hark: uhm, what do you mean by dmm packages? |
| 21:46.20 | hark | Zenox: debian-multimedia (marillat) |
| 21:46.31 | mesula | azeem: Command acknowledged. |
| 21:46.41 | Titan8990 | hark, I have never used them but have seen them recommended here, any reason your advising against them? |
| 21:47.17 | Zenox | hark: hmm, i'm just using the ones that's in debian lenny |
| 21:47.54 | hark | Titan8990: yeah, moment |
| 21:48.12 | AimHere | Debian won't supply things that can make mp3s or mpgs or decode encrypted DVDs, for licencing policy reasons |
| 21:48.52 | AimHere | Zenox, some bloke called marillat makes packages for that purpose. hark has advised against using them, for some reason |
| 21:49.06 | Titan8990 | which we will find out in a min hehe |
| 21:49.16 | Titan8990 | has a feeling its stability related |
| 21:49.22 | hark | Zenox: pastebin "apt-cache policy libavcodec51 libavformat52 libavutil49 libpostproc51 libswscale0" |
| 21:49.22 | mesula | Install w32codecs and libdvdcss2 if you want to play media on your PC. |
| 21:49.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... or perhaps we won't |
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| 21:49.58 | Zenox | AimHere: Ah bummer.. I just want to play an avi file |
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| 21:50.23 | twiggz | you dont need those to play an avi file... |
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| 21:50.32 | AimHere | I'm surprised that vlc is barfing on playing avis |
| 21:50.48 | wooden | If marrilat compiles an app to use a function of a library that debian doesn't use by default, it breaks things. Like, I can't play DVDs on VLC now, on one box, because of inconsistencies between marrilat's and debian's libs/binaries. |
| 21:50.53 | valdyn | hes trying to 'encode' |
| 21:51.02 | valdyn | that is not the same as "decode" |
| 21:51.10 | hark | Titan8990: http://bugs.debian.org/486096 |
| 21:51.23 | jpin | anyone knows how to disable anti-aliasing in dzen2 |
| 21:51.32 | sdk | I'm trying to get vlc to stream audio to my local LAN, but I can't even get it to stream a simple audio file to a specific computer. The VideoLAN docs are completely out of date and the samples for CLI are not working at all. So... can someone either give me the command to stream a .mp3 to a specific computer OR point me to recent documentation? |
| 21:52.28 | valdyn | wooden: thats by you using testing or unstable instead of stable and may just the same happen within debian in non-stable releases? |
| 21:52.58 | karme | thinks using vlc for audio streaming to a single host is a bit overkill |
| 21:52.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | wooden, but then he'd have his own version of that library, a different name and a dependency to it, no? |
| 21:53.05 | valdyn | sdk: i doubt the docs are out of date, somehow |
| 21:53.13 | valdyn | sdk: because the syntax didnt even change |
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| 21:53.29 | valdyn | sdk: nor did the gui |
| 21:53.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | not sure how you can do bug reports for the marillat stuff, though - afaik it's also not frozen for stable etc. |
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| 21:53.57 | Zenox | brb, gf calling |
| 21:53.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | for the most part it seems to have worked out ok, htough |
| 21:54.16 | wooden | CutMeOwnThroat: Maybe. This was on a box that was running Lenny when it was testing. Anyway, I got burned by DMM, so unless you're ready to do some apt debugging when things go awry, I wouldn't mess with it. |
| 21:54.23 | twiggz | installing the w32codecs from mplayers website isnt hard anyway... |
| 21:55.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | I can see how you can get burned with this nick :) |
| 21:55.26 | wooden | CutMeOwnThroat: Har! |
| 21:55.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | there is less danger for us other guys, though |
| 21:55.46 | sdk | valdyn: http://wiki.videolan.org/Documentation:Documentation .. scroll down to the VLC Streaming HowTo and note the boldface word at the end of the 'This document' line. Not trying to be a smart ass, even if it sounds like that.. just frustrated because I"m not an idiot and I've been trying to get this going ro 3 hours. |
| 21:56.12 | valdyn | !tell sdk -about ask |
| 21:56.17 | Cybertinus | how can I install mod_security on Apache2.2 in Debian Lenny? I'm a bit surprised that libapache2-mod-security doesn't exists in apt-get, to be onest |
| 21:56.33 | sdk | valdyn: point taken... |
| 21:56.40 | hark | Titan8990: other bug reports merged with this as well. i've seen and helped a couple of cases here and if you google you can find many other people affected |
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| 21:57.20 | hark | Titan8990: http://www.zeitoun.net/articles/vlc-conflict-debian-lenny-and-debian-multimedia/start http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=28363 |
| 21:57.36 | Titan8990 | hark, point taken, thanks |
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| 22:01.27 | sdk | I'm having a probelm with streaming audio in VLC. I'm running Testing, when I run $ vlc /mnt/somepath/to.a.mp3 --sout udp:192.168.1.102 -ttl 12 I get one line that says "VLC media player 1.0.2 Goldeneye followed by several screens of options arguments arranged in a 'key value' list then a prompt. Can someone suggest a way for me to stream a mp3 or ogg using VLC? |
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| 22:01.53 | cr3rzemjest | how do i make alsa play from many audio sources |
| 22:01.56 | cr3rzemjest | ? |
| 22:02.12 | cr3rzemjest | i only found solution for ubuntu and pulseaudio |
| 22:02.26 | hark | Cybertinus: /msg dpkg mod_security |
| 22:02.41 | Cybertinus | thnx hark |
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| 22:04.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | "many audio sources"? |
| 22:04.26 | sdk | Oh, and when I connect to the stream with a client vlc, I get 'main access error: socket bind error (cannot assign requested addres) |
| 22:04.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | you probably mean... |
| 22:04.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | !dmix |
| 22:04.29 | dpkg | dmix is, like, an ALSA subsystem which allows a music device to play multiple sound streams simultaneously without the need for an external sound server. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/Dmix or another sample asound.conf at img.hexus.net/v2/features/foss/a3/images/asound.conf or http://phaeronix.net/asoundrc |
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| 22:04.42 | illikawn | hi Im trying to get gtkpod or rythmbox on lenny? |
| 22:05.08 | illikawn | gtkpod doesnt have the lib and I cant find rythymbox |
| 22:05.39 | hark | illikawn: spelling ;) |
| 22:06.33 | illikawn | Rhythmbox |
| 22:06.42 | illikawn | cant find it |
| 22:06.46 | illikawn | what repo is it in? |
| 22:06.54 | hark | main |
| 22:06.58 | hark | !info rhythmbox lenny |
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| 22:07.06 | karme | sdk: try "vlc foo.mp3 --sout '#std{access=udp,mux=raw,dst=DESTIP:40000}' --intf rc" and on DESTDIP: "vlc udp://@:40000" |
| 22:07.31 | dpkg | rhythmbox: (music player and organizer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.11.6-1 (lenny), Packaged size: 5939 kB, Installed size: 13672 kB |
| 22:07.35 | hark | illikawn: ^ |
| 22:07.49 | illikawn | I still cant find libgpod3 where can I get that? |
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| 22:08.12 | karme | sdk: i don't know what you exactly want to do - but a simple way to broadcast audio in a lan is to use aplay/arecord+socat |
| 22:08.42 | hark | illikawn: pastebin apt-cache policy |
| 22:09.03 | karme | sdk: something like: "socat UDP-RECV:8080 -|aplay -r 48000 -c 2 -f s16_le" and "arecord -D hw:0,1 -r 48000 -c 2 -f s16_le -t raw|socat - UDP4-DATAGRAM:192.168.4.255:8080,sp=8080,broadcast" |
| 22:09.47 | sdk | karme: I'm trying to set up a streaming music server so my family can tap into the stream with their computers. |
| 22:10.19 | illikawn | hark I actually found it but in aptitude it has a P next to it |
| 22:10.22 | karme | sdk: then maybe you want to use the vlc http access method |
| 22:10.28 | sdk | karme: would that more easily be done with vlc or socat? |
| 22:10.40 | karme | sdk: depends on the clients you want to use |
| 22:10.59 | sdk | karme: tried that also, and still could not figure it out. all vlc clients. |
| 22:11.23 | sdk | karme: am I dumb, or is this not as simple as the documentation makes it seem? |
| 22:11.52 | karme | sdk: the docu is outdated |
| 22:11.59 | illikawn | gtg sorry |
| 22:12.30 | karme | sdk: at least partially |
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| 22:12.53 | sdk | karme: Ok, I've got your CLI strings, and I'll start fiddling with them. btw, the 40000 you used as DESTIP.. should that be an IP addy, or a port for an IP or just literally use 40000? |
| 22:13.09 | karme | sdk: 40000 is the port |
| 22:13.32 | silidan | im off bb |
| 22:13.36 | sdk | karme: thought so.. many thanks. I'll try with what you've given me. /nod |
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| 22:13.44 | karme | sdk: you can use any > 1024 (make sure no firewalls drop the packages!) |
| 22:14.23 | sdk | karme: yep, on that. Many thanks all! |
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| 22:14.40 | karme | sdk: DESTIP is to be replaced by you |
| 22:14.46 | Zenox | Is it possible to get the mpeg2 encoders etc for vlc/ffmpeg in debian lenny somehow? |
| 22:15.27 | abrotman | Zenox: there are mp2 encoders already |
| 22:15.57 | ranix | `status |
| 22:16.06 | ranix | wrong channel! |
| 22:16.07 | karme | sdk: for video streaming i used something like this: vlc input... --sout-keep --sout '#transcode{vcodec=theora,vb=300,acodec=vorb,ab=96,width=320,height=180,audio-sync=1}:standard{ac\ |
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| 22:16.18 | karme | ups - sorry |
| 22:16.18 | abrotman | Zenox: libtwolame0 |
| 22:16.26 | hark | Zenox: where's the pastebin? |
| 22:16.38 | smiley979879 | how can I tell from the cli if the machine I am using has SCSI or SAS drives? |
| 22:16.54 | abrotman | !tell smiley979879 about whats my hardware |
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| 22:21.44 | karme | sdk: for video streaming i used: vlc input... --sout-keep --sout '#transcode{vcodec=theora,vb=300,acodec=vorb,ab=96,width=320,height=180,audio-sync=1}:standard{access=http{mime=video/ogg},mux=ogg,dst=:40000}', clients then connect by "vlc http://myserver:40000" --intf-rc - and that works for audio only files, too |
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| 22:22.05 | Zenox | hark: oh, w8 a sec.. was helping gf.. checking now |
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| 22:24.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions sun-java6-plugin |
| 22:24.42 | judd | CutMeOwnThroat: sun-java6-plugin -- etch-backports/non-free: 6-07-3~bpo40+1 lenny/non-free: 6-12-1 sid/non-free: 6-16-1 squeeze/non-free: 6-16-1 |
| 22:25.05 | Zenox | hark: http://pastebin.com/d21276f71 |
| 22:25.58 | Zenox | abrotman: I already got latest version of libtwolame0 from Lenny repos |
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| 22:27.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | !java plugin |
| 22:27.39 | dpkg | For the java plugin install either the icedtea-gcjwebplugin (free) plugin or the sun-java6-plugin (<non-free>). For other java programs (lenny onwards), you can install the default-jre package to get install a java runtime, or "apt-cache search java-virtual-machine" to see other implementations. The best options are probably openjdk-6-jre or sun-java6-jre. See also <java alternatives>. Etch users: ask me about <install java etch>. |
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| 22:28.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't see how default-jre can provide anything... if I do apt-file show default-jre, it seems to contain nothing... ... so it should be in the depends |
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| 22:29.08 | hark | Zenox: try rm ~/.vlc/cache/plugins*dat |
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| 22:29.43 | nyl | hi i can someone give the repository |
| 22:29.49 | Zenox | hark: trying that |
| 22:29.50 | nyl | for php 5.3.0 |
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| 22:30.17 | markybob | nyl, you can try http://www.dotdeb.org/ ...but it's not supported |
| 22:30.47 | Zenox | hark: hmm, same problem |
| 22:31.08 | hark | Zenox: is it only that one avi or other files too? |
| 22:33.06 | Zenox | hark: i tried other avi's as well.. should mention that i'm trying to stream them with webif (starting vlc --extraintf=http) and then playing through a browser |
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| 22:33.08 | sigmonsays | dpkg, preseed |
| 22:33.08 | dpkg | preseed is probably a method of doing a remote network installation, or http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/394 or http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed Preseeding provides a way to set answers to questions asked during the installation process, without having to manually enter the answers while the installation is running. |
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| 22:33.56 | hark | Zenox: moment, your pastebin is a bit weird |
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| 22:35.48 | hark | Zenox: ah nm, it seems judd is not updated here |
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| 22:36.08 | az_ | hello |
| 22:36.21 | az_ | how check what firmware/chipset use my wifi card? |
| 22:36.24 | Zenox | hark: uh, what's judd? :P |
| 22:36.34 | cusco | az_: lspci |
| 22:36.42 | hark | judd: versions libavcodec51 |
| 22:36.43 | judd | hark: libavcodec51 -- lenny: 0.svn20080206-17 lenny-security: 0.svn20080206-17+lenny1 lenny-multimedia: 3:20080706-0.3lenny1 |
| 22:36.48 | az_ | ok thx\ |
| 22:37.03 | hark | Zenox: compare this and your pastebin version ^ |
| 22:37.15 | az_ | someone have 1000h eeepc? |
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| 22:37.59 | Zenox | hark: weird hmm |
| 22:38.03 | az_ | gggggggggggggggbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb |
| 22:38.10 | az_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:38.14 | az_ | ops |
| 22:38.33 | comradekingu | az_: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Model/901 |
| 22:38.49 | comradekingu | (This page summarizes the status of support for models 901, 1000 and 1000H.) |
| 22:39.21 | Zenox | hark: i just installed it using apt-get and the standard lenny repos, isn't using any third party sources at all hmm |
| 22:39.23 | hark | az_: there's a #debian-eeepc on irc.debian.org |
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| 22:39.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | those seem to go gjc-only |
| 22:40.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | az_, Alzheimer or cat on the keyboard? |
| 22:40.18 | pipeline | gcj -_- |
| 22:40.21 | hark | Zenox: no, http://packages.debian.org/libavcodec51 corresponds with your version. i'm just checking the update as it was done in september |
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| 22:41.15 | hark | !tell az_ -about eeepc |
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| 22:43.12 | Zenox | hark: ah okay |
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| 22:44.14 | hark | Zenox: run vlc -vvv --no-plugins-cache --list |grep avcodec |
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| 22:45.49 | hark | Zenox: also does "dpkg -l libavcodec52" give any package? |
| 22:45.56 | az_ | CutMeOwnThroat: cat :P |
| 22:46.37 | az_ | CutMeOwnThroat: http://photo.ziaja.name/#85 |
| 22:46.38 | az_ | ^^ |
| 22:46.48 | az_ | if i wanna install program manualiy |
| 22:46.51 | az_ | like kismet |
| 22:46.55 | az_ | i need put it in /etc/ ? |
| 22:47.25 | abrotman | !enter |
| 22:47.25 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 22:47.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | !enter sandman |
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| 22:47.55 | az_ | CutMeOwnThroat: do you know maybe? |
| 22:48.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes, looks like a cat |
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| 22:48.57 | az_ | but how install new program manualy |
| 22:48.59 | az_ | to debian? |
| 22:49.05 | az_ | where put it |
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| 22:49.26 | Arrowmaster | in /opt |
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| 22:49.29 | moty66 | az_, what do you mean with manually? |
| 22:49.35 | abrotman | az_: please don't do that |
| 22:49.43 | karme | !FHS |
| 22:49.44 | dpkg | Debian follows the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard. The filesystem is categorized by purpose, not application. This allows, for example, the easy and efficient deployment of a read-only /usr area across a number of thin clients. See http://www.pathname.com/fhs/ or install the 'debian-policy' package (/usr/share/doc/debian-policy/fhs/*), or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard |
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| 22:49.55 | az_ | moty66: compile et |
| 22:49.56 | az_ | c |
| 22:49.57 | abrotman | Arrowmaster: see stow and/or checkinstall |
| 22:50.06 | abrotman | az_: kismet is already in debian |
| 22:50.18 | az_ | but old |
| 22:50.20 | az_ | 2008 |
| 22:50.23 | az_ | and i need 2009 |
| 22:50.24 | abrotman | yes .. it's 2009 |
| 22:50.26 | abrotman | need? |
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| 22:50.31 | az_ | not is not :[ |
| 22:50.33 | abrotman | need? |
| 22:50.36 | az_ | i have debian squeeze |
| 22:50.37 | abrotman | !pl |
| 22:50.37 | dpkg | polska -> #debian.pl (on irc.freenode.net). Also, pl is a common extension for perl scripts and is sometimes used as an abbreviation for "packet loss". |
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| 22:50.59 | az_ | abrotman: thx pro, 2 people |
| 22:51.01 | az_ | .. |
| 22:51.19 | az_ | my chipset need 2009 version |
| 22:51.33 | stoove | hello. i just installed a minimal installation of debian squeeze and i am having trouble with my fonts. what are the usual packages one would install to get a working font setup? (i'm using xmonad which appears to have trouble) |
| 22:51.52 | abrotman | helps pros ... |
| 22:51.54 | az_ | and there is 2008 version in debian repo for squeeze |
| 22:52.07 | Zenox | hark: it just says that no packages matches libavcodec52 and it's not installed, i only have libavcodec51 |
| 22:52.21 | abrotman | az_: which chipset? |
| 22:52.56 | az_ | rt2860 |
| 22:54.25 | moty66 | az_: http://wiki.debian.org/rt2860sta#Squeeze |
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| 22:54.53 | Zenox | hark: vlc --list command didn't list any line with avcodec |
| 22:55.23 | km | what is sslcertificatchainfile and how does it works? |
| 22:55.36 | km | in apache |
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| 22:55.47 | jthomas_sb | its a file which defines your SSL cert and key |
| 22:55.55 | jthomas_sb | for https:// connections |
| 22:56.01 | km | is that set to the path of intermediate certificate? |
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| 22:56.08 | hark | Zenox: hmm that's not right. try reinstalling libavcodec51 and delete the plugins cache and check again |
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| 22:57.13 | km | i have intermediate ca certs should i set sslcacertificatefile or sslcertificatechain file to point to this intermediate certs file? |
| 22:57.18 | nicholas_ | If I'm mailing nnn@bugs.debian.org to say "tags nnn + pending fixed", should I include the nnn in the tags command? I often get this wrong, but I don't see the answer at http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control |
| 22:57.28 | hark | Zenox: if that doesn't work, do an "apt-get install libavcodec51=0.svn20080206-17+lenny1 --reinstall" and delete the cache |
| 22:57.30 | jthomas_sb | i think the chainfile is the real cert and intermediat cert combined into one; otherwise you use multiple lines to do it if they're real and internmediary. not the best place to ask tho, km; try #apache |
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| 22:59.29 | km | acording to this it said to use sslcacertificatefile: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/SSL-RedHat-HOWTO |
| 22:59.31 | BlueG | Can I get a boot floppy to bring up the Debian installer? Does anyone know if I could find such a thing premade, or where I could find directions, etc? |
| 22:59.35 | Zenox | hark: weird stuff.. reinstalled, cleared cache, but no avcodec and same error message when trying to play an avi |
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| 23:00.18 | hark | Zenox: try the other reinstall. it's getting it from the security repo now |
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| 23:01.47 | Zenox | hark: tried that one as well, but same problem :/ |
| 23:03.19 | az_ | moty66: i have wifi worked |
| 23:03.25 | az_ | i wanna just run kismet... |
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| 23:03.52 | MorkBork | you can boot from a usb drive |
| 23:04.03 | MorkBork | very easi;y |
| 23:04.30 | Zenox | hark: dunno hmm.. avcodec doesn't show when doing that vlc list.. hmm, btw.. isnt vlc using ffmpeg for that encoding stuff? |
| 23:04.36 | abrotman | would think someone that wants to sniff packets would be smart enough to compile kismet |
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| 23:05.04 | sosko | hi there |
| 23:05.31 | hark | Zenox: it is ffmpeg, apt-cache show libavcodec51 |
| 23:05.40 | moty66 | az_: http://www.kismetwireless.net/documentation.shtml#readme and read quick start ! |
| 23:05.48 | sosko | does anyone know if intel i7 750 cpu is supported by amd64 arch? |
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| 23:06.42 | sosko | and, should i be able to run it on 2.6.28-2 kernel, along with intel P55 chipset? |
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| 23:07.11 | pipeline | sosko: should be |
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| 23:08.16 | sosko | pipeline: is newest chipset support introduced with new kernel releases? |
| 23:09.18 | hark | Zenox: here's what i get: http://paste.debian.net/50739/ |
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| 23:10.07 | MorkBork | the i7 is amd64, yes |
| 23:10.13 | MorkBork | and the p55 chipset isnt anything exotic |
| 23:10.46 | sosko | MorkBork: thank you very much. |
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| 23:11.15 | pipeline | sosko: intel's chipsets are issued in broad generations.. odds are pretty good that's a member of a generation with existing support. Even if it were brand new it would probably work. |
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| 23:11.19 | nicholas_ | Maybe I must only send tags changes to control@bugs.debian.org, and no nnn-*@bugs.debian.org address will work for that. |
| 23:11.32 | MorkBork | the chipset is more of a package deal |
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| 23:12.01 | MorkBork | even windows works without special chipset drivers |
| 23:12.11 | MorkBork | now the i/o components, thats a different story |
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| 23:12.16 | MorkBork | i.e. the disk controllers etc |
| 23:12.26 | Alysum | hi - how can I ignore a package in an upgrade ? |
| 23:12.27 | MorkBork | but im sure its probably just ich10 or something, and no problem at all |
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| 23:13.26 | moshisush | hello! any known performance issues with luks / dm-crypt in Debian 2.6.31-1?? |
| 23:13.53 | moshisush | my disks run slower than half the speed i had before encryption |
| 23:14.16 | MorkBork | probably nothing relating tot he kernel version |
| 23:14.20 | MorkBork | what sort of processor |
| 23:14.22 | MorkBork | and what encryption |
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| 23:14.51 | arcsky | if i want the histroy of all cmds bigger how can i manage that? |
| 23:14.52 | pipeline | MorkBork: not true, actually. The same LSI driver and the same Adaptec driver will support every disk controller from a given five year period. |
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| 23:15.10 | pipeline | moshisush: that sounds about normal. Encryption yields overhead. |
| 23:15.18 | karme | arcsky: you mean in your shell? |
| 23:15.25 | arcsky | karme: yes |
| 23:15.29 | karme | arcsky: bash? |
| 23:15.34 | arcsky | karme: yes |
| 23:15.36 | MorkBork | pipeline, thats what i was saying, the chipset is not just 1 blob |
| 23:15.52 | karme | arcsky: HISTSIZE and HISTFILESIZE environment variables |
| 23:15.54 | MorkBork | pipeline, theres individual components, most of which are well supported, i wasnt disagreeing with you ;p |
| 23:16.13 | pipeline | MorkBork: when you buy an intel server, it actually is one big chip with all the on-board peripherals on it :X |
| 23:16.21 | karme | arcsky: i set them in /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 23:16.24 | MorkBork | ? |
| 23:16.47 | karme | arcsky: see also man bash and search for the variable namess |
| 23:16.48 | MorkBork | youve got the processor, and youve got the chipset, the chipset being some combination of a north/south bridge |
| 23:16.56 | MorkBork | sometimes only one, depending on the architecture/revision |
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| 23:17.17 | pipeline | MorkBork: northbridges are long gone, son |
| 23:17.25 | MorkBork | no they arent |
| 23:17.43 | arcsky | karme: i have there export HISTCONTROL=ignoreboth |
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| 23:18.20 | lindenle | Is digikam broken? |
| 23:18.34 | MorkBork | look at the p35 chipset |
| 23:18.35 | MorkBork | http://origin.arstechnica.com/news.media/P35_Block_Diagram.gif |
| 23:18.38 | Zenox | hark: ah hmm, doesnt have those lines at all :/ |
| 23:18.50 | moshisush | pipeline: ok... i get ~150 MB/sec without luks and ~50 with luks.. normal stats? |
| 23:19.08 | MorkBork | moshisush, what kind of processor and encryption |
| 23:19.17 | MorkBork | if you're running some sort of like atom chip, thats probably as good as it gets |
| 23:19.23 | MorkBork | openssl speed aes-128-cbc |
| 23:19.36 | MorkBork | run that command, see how fast you can do ssl |
| 23:19.47 | pipeline | moshisush: beats me I can't stand to use that shit, too pokey :D |
| 23:19.50 | moshisush | quad core i5.. intel |
| 23:20.26 | MorkBork | ive got an e8400 overclocked to 3.6ghz that can do aes-128-cbc at ~ 160 MB/s |
| 23:20.26 | rainy-day | how do I find out when the system was last booted up? |
| 23:20.27 | Zenox | hark: and i only have vlc 0.8.6h, not 1.0.2 like you.. what debian version are u using? and how do u install the av-codecs? |
| 23:20.28 | MorkBork | per core |
| 23:20.37 | MorkBork | but if you are using an algorithm like serpent |
| 23:20.39 | MorkBork | you might be screwed |
| 23:20.44 | pipeline | MorkBork: haha, my much older pentium IV can do 140 MB/s |
| 23:20.54 | MorkBork | and a via nano can do 800 MB/s |
| 23:21.03 | pipeline | it cheats |
| 23:21.18 | moshisush | MorkBork http://pastie.org/684143 |
| 23:21.35 | MorkBork | and if i use both cores i can do ~ 350 MB/s :P |
| 23:21.39 | hark | Zenox: no, this was on sid with dmm packages. i'm not sure what's wrong in your case. |
| 23:21.54 | MorkBork | moshisush, if you are using aes, 50 MB/s is poor |
| 23:21.58 | MorkBork | what encryption is your setup using |
| 23:22.03 | MorkBork | twofish, aes-256 maybe? |
| 23:22.08 | MorkBork | serpent is very slow |
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| 23:22.43 | moshisush | MorkBork the guy who did the encryption just went to sleep.. can i check afterwards :) ? |
| 23:22.48 | MorkBork | yea |
| 23:22.55 | MorkBork | encryption type is most important i thkn |
| 23:22.56 | MorkBork | look at |
| 23:23.01 | MorkBork | openssl speed aes-256-cbc for example |
| 23:23.08 | MorkBork | its about 50MB/s slower than aes-128 |
| 23:23.16 | moshisush | yea |
| 23:23.18 | MorkBork | about 120 MB/s or so |
| 23:23.18 | Zenox | hark: hmm, you know how to install the dmm packages on lenny? |
| 23:24.04 | MorkBork | http://blog.wpkg.org/2009/04/23/cipher-benchmark-for-dm-crypt-luks/ |
| 23:24.07 | pipeline | moshisush: I wouldn't worry about it too much, anyway. It's rare indeed that your drives wil touch 50 MB/s, much less 150 MB/s. |
| 23:24.24 | MorkBork | are you serious? |
| 23:24.24 | pipeline | moshisush: you can only reach those speeds because you're reading/writing in a straight line |
| 23:24.29 | MorkBork | lol |
| 23:24.41 | MorkBork | i can saturate two gigE links with consumer level extras |
| 23:24.52 | moshisush | MorkBork |
| 23:24.56 | moshisush | y# cryptsetup status /dev/mapper/md0p1-luks |
| 23:24.56 | moshisush | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:24.56 | moshisush | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:24.58 | pipeline | you must be under an extraordinarily trivial workload, MorkBork |
| 23:25.08 | MorkBork | just a fileserver |
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| 23:25.43 | pipeline | anyone can saturate gigE reading in a straight line, or serving static files from block cache :P |
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| 23:25.47 | pipeline | in reality most of the time disks spend so much time seeking that actual straightline performance is an unreachable goal |
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| 23:25.50 | hark | Zenox: ah, you may not want to do that -> http://bugs.debian.org/486096 |
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| 23:26.12 | MorkBork | how are you testing speed moshisush |
| 23:26.15 | MorkBork | ? |
| 23:26.34 | MorkBork | and is this an array? |
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| 23:27.15 | moshisush | MorkBork hdparm -t |
| 23:27.42 | ice799 | why are all binaries stripped |
| 23:27.44 | ice799 | in debian. |
| 23:27.47 | ice799 | it is really annoying. |
| 23:27.56 | ice799 | is there a good reason or is just some legacy shit that no one has stopped doing yet? |
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| 23:28.41 | MorkBork | try testing with dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=4M |
| 23:28.50 | MorkBork | then let it run for about a minute and hit ctrl - c |
| 23:28.57 | MorkBork | that will give you an example of theoretical best case performance |
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| 23:29.03 | MorkBork | (beginning of disk, sequential read, etc) |
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| 23:29.31 | moshisush | MorkBork will i get any output from that? |
| 23:29.35 | MorkBork | yes |
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| 23:29.51 | Zenox | hark: oh good to know :P |
| 23:29.56 | MorkBork | 918552576 bytes (919 MB) copied, 4.48797 s, 205 MB/s |
| 23:29.59 | MorkBork | etc |
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| 23:30.29 | moshisush | MorkBork ok ill execute a 1 minute test now.. |
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| 23:31.10 | MorkBork | also if it is array, make sure its not degraded etc |
| 23:31.11 | MorkBork | brb |
| 23:31.15 | ferr | 708837376 bytes (709 MB) copied, 15.3336 s, 46.2 MB/s on encrypted lvm |
| 23:31.42 | hark | Zenox: was it working before? |
| 23:32.08 | TrueDD | Gnight to all |
| 23:32.38 | MorkBork | using if=/dev/mapper/etc/etc/etc |
| 23:32.39 | MorkBork | ? |
| 23:32.44 | Zenox | hark: no, just installed vlc etc to try and get it to work |
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| 23:32.47 | MorkBork | and what if you use the raw black device |
| 23:32.52 | MorkBork | dd if=/dev/sda or whatever |
| 23:32.55 | MorkBork | 150 MB/s? |
| 23:32.57 | MorkBork | brb |
| 23:33.00 | moshisush | ehum second time i run it it just stops |
| 23:33.04 | moshisush | cache? |
| 23:33.20 | hark | Zenox: i'll try it on lenny later, will let you know |
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| 23:33.56 | Zenox | hark: would appreciate it a alot :) |
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| 23:34.47 | [Jasper] | hej guys, how can i run a /etc/init.d/ script at boot? |
| 23:34.52 | Zenox | hark: privmsg so i'll see it in that case.. later |
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| 23:35.18 | hark | Zenox: sure |
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| 23:35.45 | moshisush | MorkBork how do i fix this :) ? |
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| 23:35.46 | moshisush | # dd if=/dev/mapper/md0p1-luks of=/dev/null bs=4M |
| 23:35.46 | moshisush | 158+1 records in |
| 23:35.46 | moshisush | 158+1 records out |
| 23:35.46 | moshisush | 665470976 bytes (665 MB) copied, 0.122901 s, 5.4 GB/s |
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| 23:37.00 | moshisush | MorkBork.. heh need to stop pasting things |
| 23:37.00 | moshisush | 665470976 bytes (665 MB) copied, 0.122901 s, 5.4 GB/s |
| 23:37.00 | MorkBork | ah |
| 23:37.02 | moshisush | i get this now |
| 23:37.02 | MorkBork | yes probably cache |
| 23:37.11 | moshisush | crap i blew my one chance :D |
| 23:37.16 | MorkBork | nah |
| 23:38.09 | karme | [Jasper]: you can either symlink manually to the /etc/rcX.d directories or use a nice tool like sysv-rc-conf |
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| 23:38.44 | karme | [Jasper]: see also man init |
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| 23:50.09 | Kuriouz | anyone try ext4/grub yet? |
| 23:53.04 | meff | who said something about meff??? |
| 23:53.26 | meff | any ideas? |
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| 23:59.00 | alex87 | hey guys, i'm trying to set environment variables in a php script that is run on cron. is there a correct way to do this? |
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