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| 00:00.11 | fonzotic | becky: not sure to be honest, its an onboard nVidia Corporation MCP78S |
| 00:00.58 | EasyTUX | themill: Then aptitude disagree with apt-get... |
| 00:01.06 | EasyTUX | eheh. |
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| 00:01.25 | EasyTUX | though I did the opposite with the latter... |
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| 00:01.42 | tuv | which is recommended: installing third party software to /opt or to a directory in my home directory (e.g ~/software/)? |
| 00:01.56 | themill | EasyTUX: ? |
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| 00:03.54 | fonzotic | hmmm |
| 00:04.10 | EasyTUX | themill: For gnome-core maybe you're right. |
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| 00:05.24 | EasyTUX | themill: But for getting rid of evolution without MANY collaterals erasings of the whole gnome stuff, I dunno how to process... |
| 00:05.56 | macrobat | isn't gnome-core a metapkg? if you want to remove a member of it, you mark the pkgs you want to keep as explicitly installed |
| 00:05.57 | EasyTUX | Except going to xfce. eheh. |
| 00:06.06 | simonrvn | purge gnome-core, keep evo (or whatever it is you want) |
| 00:06.21 | macrobat | idk, im not on debian ATM |
| 00:06.57 | simonrvn | yes it is a meta-package. however, if s/he has autoremove/autoinstall enabled, it's going to remove all that crap too. |
| 00:07.08 | fonzotic | becky: i just see there is a gigabit controller listed also. but that eth1 which is linked in udev to that MAC is not listed anywhere. since this aims to be a "dedicated server" could that be due to a rack style architecture? |
| 00:07.18 | simonrvn | mark it manual, then do it |
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| 00:07.29 | themill | macrobat: you're exactly right and we've covered that... it's more fun to complain and not read though, apparently. |
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| 00:08.13 | EasyTUX | simonrvn: I don't wanna keep a damned shitty huge mail client (evo) and I do wanna keep th gnome-desktop thing, at it seems to be a hard thing to accomplish with weird lenny gnome dependencies... |
| 00:08.35 | fonzotic | becky: so when that is such a dot1q thing as you say, does that mean the IP is assigned outside of the "server unit"? |
| 00:08.41 | xand | what program is likely to make my screen go blank (but not off), if xscreensaver isn't running? |
| 00:08.43 | themill | EasyTUX: the gnome dependencies are the same in ubuntu -- I've just checked them. And it's not hard to do at all. |
| 00:08.51 | macrobat | yes, ppl want to stay in their comfort zone :) |
| 00:09.04 | xand | I ssh into the machine, set DISPLAY to be :0 and use mplayer, and it manages to turn the monitor on, but leaves it blank... |
| 00:09.18 | simonrvn | EasyTUX: it's not hard at all. |
| 00:09.45 | becky | fonzotic, could you nopaste afconfig output? |
| 00:09.52 | mesaGL | EasyTUX: if you want gnome-desktop-environment, you have to take a lot of stuff. but you can easily ignore it. or even hide it from the menus, so as not to offend thine eyes |
| 00:09.56 | becky | ifconfig* |
| 00:10.27 | EasyTUX | I go to xfce4... You're wrong, just try on ubuntu and on lenny, You'll see guys... |
| 00:10.28 | fonzotic | becky: there is loopback, eth0 eth0:1 and eth0:2 |
| 00:11.22 | simonrvn | EasyTUX: you lack skillz |
| 00:11.24 | EasyTUX | mesaGL: evolution-data-server sucks, implies I can't get rid of it with ignoring it, I must remove it ! |
| 00:11.46 | themill | EasyTUX: let's play compare the dependencies: http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/gnome-desktop-environment http://packages.debian.org/lenny/gnome-desktop-environment |
| 00:12.25 | mesaGL | is this a fair game ? |
| 00:12.29 | craigevil | apt-cache rdepends evolution, you can easily remove anything you dont want, besides gnome-desktop-environment is nothing but a metapackage |
| 00:13.06 | becky | fonzotic, nevermind. I mixed it up with multiple IPs per interface |
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| 00:13.32 | becky | in my case brctl show should display anything. |
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| 00:14.08 | fonzotic | thats not installed |
| 00:14.27 | beardy | What is the problem really fonzotic? |
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| 00:15.15 | fonzotic | beardy: the problem is that i mysteriously have an eth0:2 with an assigned IP but i did not specify that in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 00:15.28 | fonzotic | and i have no network-manager or dhcp |
| 00:15.33 | EasyTUX | themill: Ok, it's a fucking meta-package issue, though nevertheless if it was so easy, I haven't to learn anything about any META-SHIT... Thus I go xfce4... |
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| 00:15.48 | beardy | fonzotic: Have you pastebin:ed your /etc/network/interfaces, if possible? |
| 00:16.18 | fonzotic | i am not stupid. when i am saying its not defined in /etc/network/interfaces then its not there for real |
| 00:16.48 | themill | EasyTUX: ffs. We've been telling you that for 25 minutes now. Please engage brain before you /join #debian in future. Oh, and "xfce4" is also a meta-package. Read its description. |
| 00:17.01 | beardy | O..k. |
| 00:17.03 | craigevil | EasyTUX: aptitude remove foo, aptitude keep-all, but yes but metapackages sucks, lxde rocks :) |
| 00:17.45 | EasyTUX | themill: then evolution is a meta-package too ? |
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| 00:18.06 | simonrvn | *headdesk* |
| 00:18.45 | beardy | fonzotic: This is your machine? |
| 00:19.05 | EasyTUX | have the head completely messed up with plenty of meta-shit, that's enough meta for me today... |
| 00:19.16 | themill | EasyTUX: before you start complaining about a "fucking meta-package issue", it's traditional to have the first clue about what you're talking about. Are you sure you're not just here to troll? |
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| 00:20.57 | EasyTUX | themill: YES, if by trolling you mean bothering people that makes me feel anger... |
| 00:21.24 | beardy | Anger doesn't solve many problems. |
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| 00:23.05 | EasyTUX | No but xfce4 does. Nevertheless I didn't like that much gnome, so as I said upper, PERFECT ! |
| 00:23.18 | EasyTUX | :) |
| 00:23.29 | beardy | Run what you like. |
| 00:23.38 | EasyTUX | eheh, sure. |
| 00:23.53 | EasyTUX | Thanks everybody. |
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| 00:28.49 | EasyTUX | Above all, I DO LIKE ALL IN XFCE4 !!! (One of the reason why is so, is that I do know whole xfce stuff...). |
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| 00:34.35 | EasyTUX | beardy: I shave mine today... ;) (searching for a non-blue background in NICE xfce4...) |
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| 00:38.46 | oh_noes1 | Whats the Linux/Debian equivalent of Solaris Zones? (ie. a low overhead virtual OS running in the same context of the host OS) |
| 00:38.54 | oh_noes1 | with a low footprint |
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| 00:39.59 | abrotman | VPS ? |
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| 00:41.09 | phogg | vservers? |
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| 00:41.27 | themill | containers? |
| 00:41.44 | EasyTUX | guests ? |
| 00:41.53 | phogg | chuckles |
| 00:42.10 | phogg | oh_noes1: come on Alex, give us a buzz at least. |
| 00:44.14 | oh_noes1 | huh? |
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| 00:47.15 | phogg | oh_noes1: some indication of a hit or a miss would be helpful |
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| 00:54.11 | km | is there a way to determine if the running process is multi threaded? |
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| 00:54.39 | acton | I'm trying to run some config, has anyone else gotten this error? Is there a fix? "configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in ./support ././support " |
| 00:54.51 | acton | I've gotten it in a few packages |
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| 01:00.13 | noahz | is there a repropro doctor in the house? i'm trying to update a local repo from upstream, but I'm getting "aptmethod error receiving 'http://.../sid/contrib/debian-installer/binary-i386/Packages.gz': '404 Not Found'" |
| 01:00.53 | noahz | that doesn't exist on any mirror i've tried |
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| 01:01.30 | noahz | furthermore I have reprepro configured to only mirror main, so I don't get why it's trying contrib |
| 01:01.39 | acton | I've gotten it in a few packages |
| 01:01.42 | acton | I'm trying to run some config, has anyone else gotten this error? Is there a fix? "configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in ./support ././support " |
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| 01:02.34 | abrotman | acton: probably depends on what you're trying to compile |
| 01:02.51 | acton | quite a few diff packages atm. same thing with all |
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| 01:10.04 | Vasistha | trying to set up lan-only sshd. Currently getting connection refused, even with the ssh server's firewall disabled. sshd_config has the default settings except ListenAddress 192.168.1.33 which is the only machine that should access it. |
| 01:11.40 | beardy | Vasistha: ListenAddress is the address on the ssh server that the ssh server should listen on. You seem to think it is the one that is allowed to connect? |
| 01:11.40 | Tramp | the "ListenAddress" is not an IP which should have Access. it's a local address to bind to |
| 01:11.41 | markybob | ssh server's firewall. neat. |
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| 01:12.50 | Vasistha | thanks beardy, Tramp, it sounds like that's exactly what's wrong. So... I guess I should just leave that blank and let it do its default behavior there. Is it possible to restrict who may connect otherwise? (hosts.allow?) |
| 01:13.18 | acton | lol. set listen address to 0.0.0.0 and then apply firewall rules. ssh server isn't a firewall. |
| 01:13.32 | Tramp | Vasistha: yes. That's one possibility. sshd is linked against libwrap. |
| 01:13.44 | beardy | Vasistha: You can restrict it with iptables. |
| 01:14.05 | Vasistha | beardy: ah, okay, I'm already doing that-- so I guess there's no need for the redundancy |
| 01:14.17 | beardy | Vasistha: Doesn't hurt :) |
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| 01:15.28 | Tramp | Vasistha: adding additional (redundant) controls is ok. It's called "security in depth" and is usually a good idea (it's a question of effort vs. added security) |
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| 01:18.41 | Vasistha | thanks, guys! next step, cups... workin' on it |
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| 01:20.44 | rumpsy | !hi |
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| 01:24.19 | mr_crowley | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.04 | prime | portforward.com |
| 01:25.50 | mr_crowley | i dont want to set my firewall to do that |
| 01:26.05 | Vasistha | so, for those of you who know how to do networking stuff... I've been using the guarddog firewall gui, which is a nice tool, but I really would like to someday learn how to do it on the command line. Any tips for that migration? |
| 01:26.18 | mr_crowley | is my college pc i wanna reach that |
| 01:26.49 | Vasistha | rumpsy: please don't PM me |
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| 01:27.29 | Vasistha | palm-forehead |
| 01:28.20 | abrotman | mr_crowley: google "ssh reverse proxy" |
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| 01:30.02 | mr_crowley | abrotman thx! |
| 01:30.17 | Vasistha | trying to set up a debian box to be a home print server. How can I get it to listen on several discrete ip addresses, e.g. 192.168.1.33 and 57 only? |
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| 01:30.44 | Vasistha | "it" = cups |
| 01:32.14 | cmyers | hey guys - I'm running debian unstable, and I'd sorta like my virtual consoles to actually work. Who thought disabling them was a good idea? Anyways, some basic research suggests that in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, there is a line which disables all framebuffers from being loaded, which is why I can't see anything in my virtual consoles. I don't understand how to fix this and I'm not sure if it is safe to just remove the line. Also, I'd love to fix it wi |
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| 01:33.14 | d_b | Is there a keyboard shortcut for next image in Imagemagick Display? I did stfw but couldn't find anything. |
| 01:33.16 | cmyers | To clarify - I understand the VCs aren't actually disabled, the framebuffer drives were, supposedly because they are buggy - but I still question the wisdom of making that decision for people rather than asking with a dpkg-configure setting or something |
| 01:33.55 | amitz | okay, I have a weird problem. It seems whenever my lenny box, who acts as a router be connected to the internet, pinging from client to that gateway will have plenty of packet loss. Any of you got an idea? |
| 01:34.00 | iluminator101 | so i did apt-get install java, but i did an ok for eula, but i still have open java installed why? |
| 01:34.20 | amitz | or the general step on how to debug it? |
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| 01:34.33 | amitz | or how to identify a more specific problem? |
| 01:34.48 | amitz | router is wifi. |
| 01:34.56 | Vasistha | ooh, here is an error: E [10/Nov/2009:17:32:30 -0800] Unable to bind socket for address 192.168.1.33:631 - Cannot assign requested address. |
| 01:35.30 | acton | try switching channels. could be packet interfearance. |
| 01:35.37 | cmyers | iluminator101: you might have to use update-alternatives to select which java to use |
| 01:35.52 | Vasistha | amitz: probably wifi flakiness. you know how sometimes your cel phone doesn't get perfect reception? that's like lost packets. |
| 01:36.10 | cmyers | u-a is the standard debian mechanism of choosing between multiple installed provides for a given app |
| 01:36.22 | macrobat | cmyers: maybe you can modprobe the missing driver |
| 01:36.30 | amitz | acton: I use this wifi everyday so I have tested this multiple times. There really is a very significant difference between the box connected to the internet and not. |
| 01:36.53 | iluminator101 | how do i get rid of the open source one |
| 01:36.59 | amitz | significant as in it takes like a minute to start the X forwarding compared to 2-3 seconds. |
| 01:38.02 | macrobat | remove it, iluminator101. you can check what will be removed by aptitude remove -s pkgname |
| 01:38.20 | macrobat | remove or purge |
| 01:39.02 | cmyers | macrobat: I am using proprietary nvidia fb, which some documentation suggests is incompatible with nvidiafb (the kernel module for hte open-source nv driver) |
| 01:39.13 | cmyers | and there is no vesafb |
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| 01:39.23 | cmyers | discussed here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=585454 |
| 01:39.56 | amitz | forgot to mention, it happens to multiple ISP I connect. One using bluetooth. One using a USB modem. In the one using bluetooth, more trafficfrom/to internet means more wifi packets dropped. |
| 01:40.16 | macrobat | idk, do you need framebuffers for virtual consoles? |
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| 01:40.47 | cmyers | so says that article. |
| 01:40.53 | cmyers | the vc is there |
| 01:40.57 | cmyers | i can log in, and do stuff (blind) |
| 01:41.00 | cmyers | but it doesnt' display |
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| 01:43.50 | Vasistha | grumble. |
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| 01:45.24 | Vasistha | okay... I don't know how to do this. How do I get cups to listen for two IPs on the local network? everything I have tried just fails in some way or another. |
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| 01:46.45 | dondelelcaro | Vasistha: cups normally listens on 0.0.0.0:631 udp... |
| 01:46.59 | dondelelcaro | Vasistha: if you want it to listen on 0.0.0.0:631 tcp, you'll have to configure it |
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| 01:48.12 | Vasistha | dondelelcaro: uh, okay... well, it is working for localhost, but perhaps that bypasses the tcp/ucp conundrum? |
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| 01:48.32 | hedkandi | hello |
| 01:48.43 | hedkandi | has anyone got time to explain about the rules file? |
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| 01:49.40 | Vasistha | All's I know is, if I type localhost:631 into the web browser, it works -- on both my laptop and the desktop (print server). If I type 192.168.1.88:631 into the lappy, the desktop refuses the connection. Seems to do that no matter what I do with cupsd.conf |
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| 01:49.51 | abrotman | hedkandi: what about it? |
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| 01:51.12 | dondelelcaro | Vasistha: yes, because you're connecting to tcp 631; edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and change it to listen on 0.0.0.0 |
| 01:51.28 | hedkandi | well okay what is the build target supposed to do? |
| 01:51.55 | hedkandi | some of the example I'm examining just say stuff like this: |
| 01:52.19 | hedkandi | dh_testdir |
| 01:52.19 | hedkandi | # Add here commands to compile the package. |
| 01:52.19 | hedkandi | "mkdir -p $(CURDIR)/debian/star-merchant/usr/bin" |
| 01:52.20 | hedkandi | $(MAKE) |
| 01:52.20 | hedkandi | #docbook-to-man debian/star-merchant.sgml > star-merchant.1 |
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| 01:52.47 | hedkandi | oh dear I got booted! |
| 01:52.50 | hedkandi | sorry about that. |
| 01:52.51 | Vasistha | dondelelcaro: okay, that seems like a step in the right direction; now I guess I need something in the <Location /> and <Location /admin> sections |
| 01:52.54 | hedkandi | here is a url: |
| 01:53.01 | hedkandi | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/revu1-incoming/star-merchant-0902132330/star-merchant-1.1/debian/rules |
| 01:53.06 | hedkandi | ha! didn't boot me that time |
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| 01:54.13 | abrotman | hedkandi: see /topic |
| 01:54.30 | hedkandi | ? |
| 01:56.35 | abrotman | hedkandi: the part about pasting |
| 01:56.37 | ranix | !tell hedkandi about paste |
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| 02:00.21 | hedkandi | okay then, I'd better not paste any more! |
| 02:00.32 | hedkandi | anyway, does anyone want to say anything about the rules file? |
| 02:01.12 | abrotman | what about it? |
| 02:01.26 | hedkandi | well okay look at this example: |
| 02:01.29 | hedkandi | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/revu1-incoming/swiggle-0905081139/swiggle-0.4/debian/rules |
| 02:01.32 | markybob | ...rules are meant to be broken? |
| 02:01.44 | markybob | ubuntuwire.com? really? |
| 02:01.52 | hedkandi | could you perhaps explain what the build-stamp target does? |
| 02:02.04 | hedkandi | $(MAKE) for instance |
| 02:02.11 | hedkandi | what does that do / mean? |
| 02:02.55 | abrotman | hedkandi: why are you asking us about Ubuntu stuff ? |
| 02:03.33 | hedkandi | I'm asking about debian stuff. ubuntu uses the debian format |
| 02:03.35 | \amethyst | hedkandi: you might check out 'info make' |
| 02:03.49 | \amethyst | hedkandi: or ##workingset for help with make basics |
| 02:04.22 | \amethyst | hedkandi: in particular for this question, section 5.7.1 in 'info make' |
| 02:04.23 | abrotman | hedkandi: Ubuntu provides you with your apt/dpkg. They may have patched them to act differently, please ask #ubuntu |
| 02:04.41 | hedkandi | I did |
| 02:05.10 | mtnman | hedkandi there are enough differences between debian and ubuntu that supporting ubuntu is problematic in a debian framework |
| 02:05.18 | markybob | hedkandi, i believe what he was trying to be polite in saying is that we dont care |
| 02:05.25 | \amethyst | hedkandi: perhaps #ubuntu-devel ? |
| 02:05.47 | hedkandi | what are the differences then? |
| 02:06.21 | Vasistha | hedkandi: we don't have any way of knowing what ubuntu is changed, so we don't know what the differences are. |
| 02:06.27 | Vasistha | s/is/has/ |
| 02:06.33 | hedkandi | okay bye then |
| 02:06.34 | mtnman | hedkandi i can't comment on specifics because i don't use ubuntu |
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| 02:09.32 | abrotman | hums "We Care A Lot" ... |
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| 02:12.49 | dabreegs1er | What does "<IRQ> <0>" spammed to syslog hundreds of times prior to a kernel crash indicate? My machine has also been panicking, resulting in blinking kbd lights -- a machine check exception is all I can gather. |
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| 02:18.07 | Sier | hi |
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| 02:18.38 | Vasistha | well, here is cupsd.conf as it presently appears: http://paste.debian.net/51254 still cannot connect. grr. |
| 02:19.51 | mesaGL | dabreegs1er: irq 0 is usually the system timer, the least "important" of any interrupt |
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| 02:20.39 | dabreegs1er | mesaGL: as Googling as told me. whats this indicate? I know some piece of hardware is failing badly, I get these lockups daily. I've run memtest86+ with no errors, dunno what else to check. |
| 02:21.30 | mesaGL | dabreegs1er: is it new fail or fail for as long as you can remember ? |
| 02:21.58 | dabreegs1er | mesaGL: it's been happening increasingly for a few months. I built this machine about 2 years ago, didnt start until somewhat recently |
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| 02:23.58 | markybob | dabreegs1er, open your case and point a large ass to it. if the locking stops, you know it's an acpi issue and you need to lower your thresholds |
| 02:24.05 | markybob | large ass fan* |
| 02:24.19 | mesaGL | dabreegs1er: have you messed with the bios ? this sounds very low-level to me. very unlikely to be application software |
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| 02:24.28 | MrThrax | maybe you should learn2computer and not be such a noob? |
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| 02:25.23 | prince_jammys | markybob: typo of the day. |
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| 02:25.38 | dabreegs1er | mesaGL: havent touched bios or did any funky overclocking |
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| 02:25.52 | markybob | prince_jammys, large ass would do the same basic thing :P |
| 02:25.55 | dabreegs1er | markybob: a large what? heating issue? |
| 02:25.55 | prince_jammys | was a pretty comical piece of advice. |
| 02:25.58 | tntc | dabreegs1er: what are you usually doing when the lockup occurs? |
| 02:26.16 | dabreegs1er | tntc: sometimes nothing, sometimes memory/cpu intensive, just depends |
| 02:26.33 | tntc | dabreegs1er: nothing? you just walk up to your machine and it locks up? |
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| 02:26.48 | markybob | dabreegs1er, large ass fan |
| 02:26.51 | dashs | What pkg hold 'm-a'? |
| 02:27.12 | abrotman | module-assistant |
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| 02:27.26 | dashs | tnaks |
| 02:27.32 | TrueDD | Gnight to all |
| 02:27.33 | tntc | dabreegs1er: I'm not trying to be a smartass with that. I had that happen before. Turned out when I walked up, it shook the floor which shook my optical mouse and the screensaver app locked up. |
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| 02:27.58 | tntc | dabreegs1er: do you mean literally doing nothing, or do you mean doing nothing CPU intensive? |
| 02:28.17 | dabreegs1er | tntc: Seriously. I've always left it on overnight, sometimes I'll wake up and its dead. I've tried running no x/nvidia stuff, just console, will still lock up |
| 02:28.23 | MrThrax | you guys |
| 02:28.31 | MrThrax | YOU ARE ALL A BUNCH OF FUCKING WORTHLESS TOOLS |
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| 02:28.36 | dabreegs1er | Everything from using firefox to just typing in vim or staring at the screen |
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| 02:28.51 | markybob | dabreegs1er, so do what i said |
| 02:28.55 | tntc | dabreegs1er: interesting. that does sound hardware-esque. |
| 02:29.12 | tntc | dabreegs1er: any high temps showing up in acpi/lm-sensors? |
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| 02:30.13 | dabreegs1er | tntc: yacpi's claiming a steady 40 celsius, machine feels room temp (not hot or cold currently) inside case to my hand |
| 02:30.39 | markybob | one temp means nothing. your video card could be overheating, which wouldnt be included in that "40 celsius" |
| 02:30.59 | tntc | markybob: unlikely at idle though, and not running X. |
| 02:31.01 | dabreegs1er | onboard nvidia 6100. Are there sensors in all that? |
| 02:31.14 | tntc | dabreegs1er: perhaps. check in nvidia-settings |
| 02:31.31 | markybob | tntc, i had it happen last month. fan on the card wasnt functioning as well as it should have been. froze all the time until i figured it out and replaced it |
| 02:32.06 | dabreegs1er | I changed the PSU about a year ago because it started making bad grinding noises, the fan bearing was going out or something. A good replacment, an hec |
| 02:34.02 | tntc | markybob: good point. |
| 02:34.14 | tntc | dabreegs1er: are you using the closed-source nvidia drivers? |
| 02:34.32 | dabreegs1er | Yes |
| 02:34.46 | dabreegs1er | nvidia-settings doesnt give me any sensor info. And again, I've had it panic when in console before X is started |
| 02:35.06 | markybob | dabreegs1er, me too. X not being used has nothing to do with it |
| 02:35.06 | tntc | dabreegs1er: if the video card was kaput, it may still cause crashes. |
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| 02:35.35 | tntc | dabreegs1er: what about PCI cards? What do you have in there? |
| 02:35.38 | markybob | bleh. i dont care. |
| 02:35.42 | tntc | PCI/PCIE |
| 02:35.59 | dabreegs1er | tntc: zilch |
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| 02:36.18 | tntc | no cards at all? |
| 02:36.22 | dabreegs1er | I even unplugged my ide drive a while back, suspecting that |
| 02:36.23 | dabreegs1er | None |
| 02:36.30 | dabreegs1er | I use the onboard video card and soundcard |
| 02:36.41 | tntc | huh. Well, don't take this the wrong way dude, but it sounds like you're screwed. |
| 02:36.50 | dabreegs1er | Yeah I know |
| 02:36.51 | tntc | Is the mobo still under warranty? |
| 02:37.07 | dabreegs1er | Uh, don't quite think so, it's been past 2 years, and I built this myself from newegg parts |
| 02:37.25 | tntc | dabreegs1er: you would be amazed. |
| 02:37.30 | tntc | it's worth checking, for sure. |
| 02:37.34 | abrotman | dabreegs1er: some stuff is is 2-3 years |
| 02:37.37 | abrotman | some lifetime |
| 02:37.39 | dabreegs1er | Everything cost about $200, so honestly I don't mind building another, but I just don't want to invest in something that'll break again |
| 02:37.47 | dabreegs1er | I'll dig up the papers, then |
| 02:37.51 | tntc | dabreegs1er: well, spend more than $200 then :) |
| 02:38.07 | tntc | you may be able to find it on newegg itself |
| 02:38.23 | tntc | rather than trying to dig up the receipt. |
| 02:38.36 | dabreegs1er | ehh I'm liking the sub-50 dual core amd + cheap mobo deal |
| 02:38.45 | dabreegs1er | I'll check now, thanks |
| 02:38.53 | tntc | dabreegs1er: hehe. bon chance. |
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| 02:40.18 | BubbaT | Ok I need to do two things. Find a list of available versions of the same package. Find out how to install the non-default version of a package. |
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| 02:40.58 | abrotman | BubbaT: which version of Debian are you running? WHich packages? |
| 02:41.14 | dabreegs1er | so should I suspect the processor or the (jetway) motherboard? the processor is still under warranty, it seems |
| 02:41.25 | BubbaT | lenny. Which packages: network-manager, network-manager-kde. |
| 02:42.21 | BubbaT | debregister: you need to try the CPU in a new motherboard or the motherboard with a new CPU. |
| 02:42.30 | mesaGL | dabreegs1er: jetway isn't the best brand ever ... cheap and cheerful. i had to change one twice or three times to get a working one. never touched them since |
| 02:42.31 | abrotman | BubbaT: mixing lenny with another version will probably make your system unhappy ... why do you need a new n-m ? |
| 02:43.00 | dabreegs1er | mesaGL: Can you recommend a more reliable brand off the top of your head? I went with them purely for price |
| 02:43.50 | BubbaT_ | abrotman: When I try to install n-m-kde I get the following error: |
| 02:43.55 | abrotman | BubbaT: network-manager already has a backport at backports.org |
| 02:44.03 | BubbaT_ | The following packages have unmet dependencies: network-manager-kde: Depends: network-manager (>= 0.6.2) but it is not going to be installed |
| 02:44.07 | mesaGL | dabreegs1er: for cheap *and* reasonable, asrock are ok these days. asus & gigabyte are (two of) the main contenders in the domestic pc market |
| 02:44.28 | abrotman | BubbaT_: put your sources.list in a pastebin |
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| 02:45.32 | dabreegs1er | mesaGL: Thanks, I'll look into a replacement. If it's the cpu, thats under warranty, so win-win |
| 02:45.55 | mesaGL | linux is always win-win, isn't it ? :) |
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| 02:48.01 | mtnman | more like lin-lin |
| 02:48.48 | BubbaT_ | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/m6101d0a8 |
| 02:52.00 | abrotman | BubbaT_: aptitude update && aptitude install network-manager-kde |
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| 02:52.41 | BubbaT_ | aptitude update |
| 02:52.47 | BubbaT_ | oops Sorry |
| 02:52.47 | abrotman | not in here .. |
| 02:53.19 | BubbaT | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:54.42 | BubbaT_ | I get a couple of GPG errors on a couple of repositories is that a problem? |
| 02:55.04 | abrotman | depends on the error, but probably not enough to stop you from what you're trying to do |
| 02:55.21 | abrotman | we'll fix those later |
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| 02:59.25 | BubbaT_ | abrotman: I'm getting errors in the install: http://pastebin.com/m75e35e12 |
| 02:59.30 | BubbaT_ | Should I continue? |
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| 03:00.09 | BubbaT_ | Oh and I included the GPG errors on the bottom. |
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| 03:00.18 | abrotman | BubbaT_: sure seems that way .. it's going to downgrade your network-manager but install network-manager-kde |
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| 03:00.30 | abrotman | !apt-key 0BF795DC |
| 03:00.30 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 0BF795DC ; gpg --export 0BF795DC | sudo apt-key add - |
| 03:00.39 | abrotman | !apt-key 16BA136C |
| 03:00.39 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 16BA136C ; gpg --export 16BA136C | sudo apt-key add - |
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| 03:04.56 | maplebed | hey, I'm looking for some help laying out a package to be a .deb and a .rpm. is there a channel specific to packaging separate from this, the general debian channel? |
| 03:05.37 | maplebed | my issue is that I would like the README to be available to either, and I'm used to putting the rEADME in debian/ along with the rest of the doc files. That seems like it's not the right way to do it. |
| 03:05.48 | abrotman | maplebed: you mean you want a single source tree to be able to build an RPM and a .deb ? |
| 03:06.03 | maplebed | abrotman: yes (and also 'make install' without a package) |
| 03:06.14 | abrotman | why not /usr/share/doc/<pkgname>/README ? |
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| 03:06.45 | maplebed | well, that's appropriate for debian, is it right for other distros? right now, that's where it winds up, but I'd rather not specify that path in the makefile if I don't have to. |
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| 03:07.28 | abrotman | i have no idea about another distro .. |
| 03:08.05 | maplebed | so you would suggest that in the source tree, the README lives wherever it wants to live, and part of the makefile specifies dropping it in /usr/share/doc/<pkgname>/README? |
| 03:08.37 | maplebed | (just making sure I understand you right) |
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| 03:08.50 | abrotman | i would imagine this has been done (and yes, AFAIK it is policy that the documentation on Debian goes in /usr/share/doc/<pkgname>/) |
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| 03:09.01 | maplebed | I'm sure it has... ;) |
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| 03:12.09 | markybob | god i hate hippies |
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| 03:12.33 | mtnman | hates haters |
| 03:12.33 | dvs | markybob, ok cartman |
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| 03:13.53 | bugjar | how did that guy not get nailed by the 3-pasted-lines and you're out rule here? |
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| 03:15.35 | abrotman | BubbaT_: is it working ? |
| 03:16.03 | HazardX | bugjar, because he wasn't pasting, he was doing something else. |
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| 03:17.10 | BubbaT__ | abrotman: looks like it worked. |
| 03:17.18 | BubbaT__ | Thank you. |
| 03:17.18 | abrotman | BubbaT__: glad to hear it |
| 03:17.21 | bugjar | HazardX, oh. well he wasn't typing. i would have thought he'd have been automatically kicked. |
| 03:17.32 | abrotman | BubbaT__: did you get the GPG errors taken care of also ? |
| 03:17.33 | bugjar | oh well. |
| 03:17.55 | cmyers | bugjar: it doesn't matter whether you past or not, only the delay. if you "say" too many lines to quickly, you get kicked. his script was probably on a delay to prevent that from happening. |
| 03:18.18 | BubbaT__ | I was supposed to run the two lines beginning with gpg? Yes. |
| 03:18.32 | abrotman | okay |
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| 03:19.59 | BubbaT | Now if I could get the new version of gdb, the one with reverse debugging :)' |
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| 03:21.21 | iluminator101 | whats is advmss? |
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| 03:26.19 | iluminator101 | what does advmss stand for |
| 03:26.26 | abrotman | in what context? |
| 03:27.02 | iluminator101 | in ip6 |
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| 03:37.49 | iluminator101 | mss is Maximal Segment Size so what is advmss |
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| 03:41.54 | dabreegs1er | deluser should do it |
| 03:42.06 | \amethyst | iluminator101: man ip; it's the MSS to advertise |
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| 04:26.49 | Phelps | anyone here know if it is possible to install MySQL Server on debian based systems without the set root password prompt, pref not installing from source |
| 04:27.15 | Phelps | I'm trying to write an automated install script but the password prompt freezes there waiting for user input |
| 04:28.55 | tuv | how do i change/set the window icon (shown on the title bar and the window switcher) for a given application? |
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| 04:30.33 | bugjar | phelps: dunno the language, but have you considered something along the lines of echoing nothing to the installation? |
| 04:31.02 | Phelps | its an interactive script called by apt-get |
| 04:31.11 | Phelps | only happens on deb based system |
| 04:31.16 | bugjar | o |
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| 04:38.38 | simonrvn | Phelps: check the package's postinst script |
| 04:38.56 | simonrvn | and maybe preinst too |
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| 04:44.59 | planet8 | Maybe a stupid question, but why is the gcc compiler installed in the min install? |
| 04:45.52 | lotus-blade | how do I get rid of the cd from apt config? |
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| 04:47.19 | fogus1 | how to show all physical addresses of NICs in the machine? can these be used in /etc/network/interfaces to bind IP settings to a physical address? how is this binding done otherwise? |
| 04:47.40 | Pupuser402 | hi. what is the current version of libc in debian? |
| 04:47.45 | simonrvn | lotus-blade: with an editor |
| 04:47.58 | simonrvn | Pupuser402: ask in 1 channel at a time - thank you |
| 04:47.59 | lotus-blade | what file? |
| 04:48.09 | simonrvn | !sources.list |
| 04:48.09 | Pupuser402 | are these channels linked? |
| 04:48.09 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 04:48.13 | Pupuser402 | simonrv? |
| 04:48.54 | planet8 | sorry my bad, it isn't |
| 04:49.31 | simonrvn | Pupuser402: you're joined to both, i imagine |
| 04:49.37 | fogus1 | how do I set DNS servers on in my networking? |
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| 04:49.59 | Pupuser402 | i am , but i thought these were two different networks and the channels were not linked |
| 04:50.56 | simonrvn | they are different nets. no, not linked. |
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| 04:52.25 | Xenguy | fogus1: nameservers are configured in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 04:52.34 | Phelps | simonrvn: do you know if i can install mysql-server via dpkg and stop it from running the postinst scripts ? |
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| 04:53.43 | fogus1 | Xenguy: ok, thanks! |
| 04:53.55 | fogus1 | Xenguy: where do I map physical ports to IPs? |
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| 04:54.41 | Xenguy | fogus1: I'm not sure what you mean (is that a different question, or the same one?) |
| 04:56.11 | fogus1 | Xenguy: this is a different question. I just installed a new box and I need to set up networking. what I have is "network cannot be found" type messages. I configured /etc/network/interfaces as I had recorded it previously but I get no go when I restart the network with /etc/init.d/networking restart |
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| 04:56.44 | fogus1 | what I think the problem is is that there is no binding between physical ports (where my cables are plugged into) and the IP addresses that I have assigned in interfaces |
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| 04:56.55 | fogus1 | I am more used to centos |
| 04:57.41 | Xenguy | fogus1: hrm, did you try e.g.: ifdown eth0 |
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| 04:57.48 | Xenguy | fogus1: then ifup eth0 |
| 04:57.49 | Xenguy | ? |
| 04:57.57 | fogus1 | wouldn't a restart do that? |
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| 04:58.54 | Xenguy | fogus1: maybe, but I've had issues like that in the past where '/etc/init.d/networking restart' didn't completely work for reasons unknown to me |
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| 04:59.13 | fogus1 | bother. I'm geographically separated from the machine |
| 04:59.32 | fogus1 | ok. how would this mapping take place? how would debian know which IP I meant for which port? |
| 04:59.34 | tuv | how do i change/set the window icon (shown on the title bar and the window switcher) for a given application? |
| 04:59.49 | Xenguy | fogus1: also (just thinking out loud) does output from 'ifconfig -a' match the /etc/network/interfaces configuration? |
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| 05:00.59 | fogus1 | well, there are three (physical) ports. it used to show only one port and "lo" |
| 05:01.08 | Xenguy | fogus1: I recommend seeking a second opinion in this case; for some reason I'm not really grokking your situation :-/ |
| 05:01.32 | fogus1 | sure. I appreciate the help though. anyone? |
| 05:01.34 | Xenguy | fogus1: details? |
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| 05:02.16 | fogus1 | basically, I'm trying to undersand how physcial ports map to IPs in debian |
| 05:02.35 | fogus1 | I guess that's more of a theoretical question than a technical one, but theory precedes practice often |
| 05:02.58 | Xenguy | fogus1: give me a simple example of a "physical port" (maybe it is just terminology in the way?) |
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| 05:03.16 | fogus1 | it is an ethernet port. it has 8 pins. you often plug a blue cable into it |
| 05:03.30 | fogus1 | they are assigned a unique MAC address at time of manufactor |
| 05:03.45 | fogus1 | switches use these MAC address to move ethernet frames around |
| 05:03.45 | Xenguy | fogus1: hrm, are you talking about 'persistent naming' for example? |
| 05:04.26 | Xenguy | !70 |
| 05:04.27 | dpkg | udev has the ability to statically rename Ethernet cards based on MAC address since version 0.090. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules (Lenny, Squeeze) or /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules (Etch). If you want the mappings to change, edit the respective file. To apply changes: "udevadm trigger" ("udevtrigger" on Etch) or reload the relevant driver module. See also <forcedeth mac>, <udev>. |
| 05:04.58 | Xenguy | fogus1: just a shot in the dark (so if irrelevant to your situation, just ignore) |
| 05:05.16 | Xenguy | wonders where the cavalry is... ;-) |
| 05:05.32 | fogus1 | well, its not the naming but the addressing I am concerned with, but yes, that is the idea |
| 05:07.20 | Xenguy | fogus1: if you are trying to control the name (e.g. eth0 or eth1 or ...) being given to an interface, then see above link (that seems to be the way it is done in these modern times) |
| 05:07.56 | fogus1 | ok, awsome |
| 05:08.24 | fogus1 | wait, what link? |
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| 05:08.29 | fogus1 | was there a URL? |
| 05:08.39 | Xenguy | fogus1: it actually works (or did for me when I crossed this bridge) |
| 05:08.44 | Xenguy | !70 |
| 05:08.45 | dpkg | udev has the ability to statically rename Ethernet cards based on MAC address since version 0.090. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules (Lenny, Squeeze) or /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules (Etch). If you want the mappings to change, edit the respective file. To apply changes: "udevadm trigger" ("udevtrigger" on Etch) or reload the relevant driver module. See also <forcedeth mac>, <udev>. |
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| 05:09.00 | Xenguy | no link, just a factoid |
| 05:09.19 | fogus1 | oh, I see, the factoid is about a linking |
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| 05:09.52 | Xenguy | fogus1: "link" is probably my bad usage, but hey, it's late here ;-) |
| 05:10.28 | fogus1 | lol, over here, well, this is nuts I know, but its ALWAYS getting late here (even if it isn't late yet, which it is anyway) |
| 05:10.37 | fogus1 | I wish it would get early |
| 05:10.40 | Xenguy | anyway, HTH (my brain is slowly starting to turn off the later it gets) |
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| 05:10.54 | Xenguy | fogus1: over where? |
| 05:11.12 | fogus1 | well, everywhere (unless you are traveling really fast) |
| 05:11.19 | Xenguy | heh, OK |
| 05:12.38 | massmc_ | can anyone tell me where to find the fluxbox menu file? |
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| 05:14.37 | Xenguy | massmc_: just a shot, but if you did 'dpkg -L fluxbox', that should output all the files in the fluxbox package, and then maybe you could identify the menu file? |
| 05:14.48 | prince_jammys | massmc_: look in /etc/X11/fluxbox/ |
| 05:14.54 | pflanze | How can I disable the automatic mounting on recent Debian versions (with Gnome running, dunno if it's gnome)? |
| 05:15.10 | prince_jammys | massmc_: for the system-wide stuff. your user's should be in ~/.fluxbox/menu |
| 05:15.14 | pflanze | I mean, when I plug in a usb disk. |
| 05:15.21 | Xenguy | pflanze: And here I thought automounting was a feature? ;-) |
| 05:15.30 | pflanze | sometimes it's not |
| 05:15.38 | Xenguy | hehe |
| 05:15.45 | Tobias| | agrees with pflanze |
| 05:15.50 | Tobias| | Why would I want automounting on my server? |
| 05:15.57 | Tobias| | Useless bloat. |
| 05:16.20 | Xenguy | Tobias|: why would you stick a usb key on your server unless you wanted it to mount? |
| 05:16.43 | Tobias| | How would I stick a USB key in my server which is in a datacenter in a different continent? |
| 05:17.03 | pflanze | I need to get the data from this disk without it being modified at all by having the system mount it read-writable! |
| 05:17.18 | Xenguy | then I don't understand why this is a problem; anyway there must be a way to de-configure automount |
| 05:17.27 | Tobias| | There is |
| 05:17.32 | Tobias| | autofs |
| 05:17.58 | pflanze | No packages found matching *autofs*. |
| 05:18.02 | Tobias| | http://wiki.debian.org/AutoFs |
| 05:18.19 | Tobias| | apt-cache search autofs |
| 05:18.28 | pflanze | So this is not what's active on my system. |
| 05:18.38 | Tobias| | Are you using gnome? |
| 05:18.40 | pflanze | Unless the package name has changed. |
| 05:18.40 | massmc_ | thanks Xenguy prince_jammys .. I wanted the system wide one cause i have multiple accounts on 1 box.. installed skype and want to see it in all accounts menu |
| 05:18.41 | pflanze | Yes |
| 05:18.44 | Tobias| | Gnome has a built in utility for that |
| 05:18.52 | Tobias| | gnome-volume-manager |
| 05:19.23 | pflanze | yep that's installed, thanks. |
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| 05:22.04 | iluminator101 | Hey, I am having trouble loading jdownloader as a user from debian squeeze, can someone please help me with this? |
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| 05:23.29 | Natanaiel | what are dpkg hooks? |
| 05:25.16 | iluminator101 | jdownloader loads in root without a problem, as far as i can see my permission are right, it starts to load then hangs |
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| 05:34.19 | pflanze | I've got a cheap USB-2 Cardbus card here in a Thinkpad T21 laptop, getting *at most* 3.9MB/sec throughput. |
| 05:34.31 | pflanze | Is this the laptop's fault or the card's? |
| 05:34.52 | iluminator101 | i cant seem to figure out why i cant load jdownloader as user in debian squeeze 64 bit, but it work perfectly in root |
| 05:34.59 | pflanze | (This is a 800Mhz PIII) |
| 05:35.15 | pflanze | (CPU usage is only around 5% during the transfers) |
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| 05:37.08 | pflanze | Medium performance is even worse, transferring 1GB takes 9'50'', meaning 1.69MB/sec. |
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| 05:54.09 | mr_queue | What would be the best way to have say 10 lines from top/htop, tail -f /v/l/messages, and maybe tail -f foo all running in the same screen? |
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| 05:57.04 | MorkBork | well the 'screen' tool |
| 05:57.14 | MorkBork | will do what you want |
| 05:57.20 | MorkBork | you could split up the window into two panes |
| 05:57.24 | MorkBork | have top running in the top one |
| 05:57.31 | MorkBork | and tail -f /var/log/messages foo |
| 05:57.33 | MorkBork | running in the bottom |
| 05:58.23 | whammo | does anybody know a guide on how to install packages from a dvd if you only have a base install working (no desktop environment) |
| 05:58.28 | mr_queue | MorkBork: ahh.. good idea. |
| 05:58.36 | waka | Which file do i need to edit to change the default xterm window size? |
| 05:59.05 | waka | anyone? |
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| 06:03.54 | Natanaiel | what are dpkg hooks? |
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| 06:21.59 | mr_queue | waka: I think you can just resize it and it should stick. |
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| 06:23.23 | waka | mr_queue: it does not |
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| 06:24.49 | whammoMKII | hey you know how synaptic can manage downloading several things simultaneously to speed things up? is there a way to get apt to do something like that from shell? |
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| 06:31.31 | roland- | hey, what happened to xen-system in squeeze? how do I install xen? |
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| 06:32.13 | __good_day_ | Hello Friends, How can we find the stack, vector and heap memory mapping under kernel source any idea? |
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| 07:04.52 | Torrentow | "Hi. I have a problem I downloading debian testing cd 1 from bittorent then Transmission says: Tracker gave an error: "Requested download is not authorized for use this tracker" |
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| 07:22.16 | roland- | there is a huge bug in squeeze, if I enable dash systemwide the xfce4-termial won't start anymore |
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| 07:33.04 | yucatan1 | i have a windows server 2003 system |
| 07:33.14 | yucatan1 | if u install freeradius on my debian machine |
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| 07:33.31 | yucatan1 | is it possible that it reads the users auth from the active directory from windows? |
| 07:34.31 | OpenTokix | yucatan1: You want to read the auth-data etc. from ldap, or if you only want auth you can use winbind |
| 07:35.10 | yucatan1 | i only want auth |
| 07:35.26 | yucatan1 | if login is correct then you get wireless acces to the network |
| 07:35.34 | yucatan1 | else denied no wireless access |
| 07:36.58 | yucatan1 | can u explane a bit more opentokix |
| 07:37.12 | yucatan1 | what the difference between winbind and freeradius |
| 07:37.12 | superlinux | hi guys . I am trying to copy the links about html tags in http://w3schools.com/tags . all i get is white pages. I used both httrack and wget. what should I do? |
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| 07:37.40 | roland- | how do I install xen in debian squeeze? |
| 07:37.45 | OpenTokix | yucatan1: afaik windows don't use radios default |
| 07:37.51 | OpenTokix | radius |
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| 07:38.48 | yucatan1 | but if i want i can use winbound as a radius |
| 07:38.58 | yucatan1 | that i can force people on my wireless network to auth |
| 07:39.07 | yucatan1 | if they dont have a username and password then they cannot connect |
| 07:39.16 | superlinux | or if you can recommend me a better place where everything organized in a similar way? |
| 07:39.18 | yucatan1 | the username and password have to match those in the active directory |
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| 07:40.49 | OpenTokix | yucatan1: sorry, havent done that sort of stuff |
| 07:40.52 | yucatan1 | do i need to install radius as well or do i have enough on winbound? |
| 07:40.58 | yucatan1 | hmm okee |
| 07:41.13 | yucatan1 | thx |
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| 07:54.29 | milligan_ | Um, I'm running kill -9 as root on a process, but it's not dieing. How can I kill the damn thing? |
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| 07:58.23 | Torrentow | milligan_: on htop easly |
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| 08:13.33 | valdyn | milligan_: you cant |
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| 08:18.11 | tuv | how do i change/set the window icon (shown on the title bar and the window switcher) for a given application? |
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| 08:19.51 | mhymn | tuv: try #gnome #kde or whatever DE channel you're using |
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| 08:37.35 | sanmarcos | how can I enable logs for iptables? |
| 08:37.38 | sanmarcos | and where can I see them? |
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| 08:46.24 | valdyn | sanmarcos: thats in the iptables documentation |
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| 09:01.05 | aldin | hi, how can i set interface to get ip from dhcp and to use manualy inserted nameservers in /etc/resolv.conf? i edited /etc/network/interfaces for dhcp IP but with this option my /resolv.conf is automaticaly modified with dhcps nameservers |
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| 09:03.09 | pjp | hi, how could I create a custom Debian distribution, with packages of my choice? |
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| 09:03.52 | valdyn | aldin: you need to supersede the dhcp nameserver in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf |
| 09:04.53 | MorkBork | aldin, you have to add a hook |
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| 09:04.55 | MorkBork | its the cleanest way |
| 09:05.38 | sanderj | Anyone know how many hd's I write to simultanious in this multipath setup?: http://pastebin.ca/1666205 |
| 09:05.49 | aldin | valdyn: thanks! |
| 09:05.52 | valdyn | aldin: like "supersede domain-name-servers <ip>;", thats in the manpage |
| 09:06.16 | valdyn | aldin: guess it takes a white space seperated list too |
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| 09:07.57 | aldin | valdyn: cool, cool, found it, like it :) |
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| 09:10.08 | pjp | hi, how could I create a custom Debian distribution, with packages of my choice? |
| 09:10.24 | pjp | does anyone here know ^^ |
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| 09:12.12 | valdyn | pjp: what would be the point? |
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| 09:17.14 | pjp | valdyn: well, I could add some packages, |
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| 10:05.12 | Imran-UK | iv got an entry in /etc/inittab like this: T3:23:respawn:su - <user> -c <ssh tunnel from remote to local port> |
| 10:05.33 | Imran-UK | the tunnel is not starting, where would init put its log |
| 10:05.38 | Imran-UK | i cant see anything in syslog |
| 10:05.50 | Imran-UK | i can start the tunnel manually |
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| 10:06.08 | dff | what's the best way to check pre compiled bundles for malware |
| 10:06.48 | cmyers | dff I know of no way to validate precompiled software for malware besides checking md5 sums against someone you trust, such as the distributor. |
| 10:07.03 | cmyers | if you are tin-foil-hat about that sort of thing, build from source. |
| 10:07.13 | dff | well |
| 10:07.17 | dff | it's a pre compiled crack |
| 10:07.22 | dff | so |
| 10:07.39 | dff | i have my reasons for being suspiciuos |
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| 10:07.42 | cmyers | crack, as in crack put together by "hackers" of proprietary software? |
| 10:07.54 | dff | yes |
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| 10:08.30 | cmyers | your question is like asking "how do I buy stolen goods and trust that they are fully functional and still waranteed by the manufactuerer". It makes no sense. |
| 10:08.45 | dff | no that's not my question |
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| 10:08.59 | cmyers | just realized he called cracked software "stolen goods", and made himself sad =( |
| 10:09.02 | Imran-UK | cymers, good analogy |
| 10:09.05 | dff | my question was, how do i make sure this crack doesnt F my system |
| 10:09.14 | cmyers | 1. don't use it |
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| 10:09.19 | cmyers | 2. sandbox it in a VM |
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| 10:09.23 | cmyers | 3. sandbox it in a chroot. |
| 10:09.28 | cmyers | 4. don't use it. |
| 10:09.30 | dff | thank you |
| 10:09.36 | dff | ill go with 2 or 4 |
| 10:09.45 | Imran-UK | dff, if this is a .deb then i'd question why you arn't using something in the repos which are digitally signed |
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| 10:10.08 | dff | it's a .gz |
| 10:10.10 | Imran-UK | debian mirror distros |
| 10:10.38 | Imran-UK | dff, short answer, i dont think you can be sure to a degree that would make it worth running |
| 10:10.49 | dff | Imran-UK: my thoughts aswell |
| 10:10.50 | cmyers | Imran-UK: I doubt many crackers distribute pirated software in .deb form. |
| 10:10.59 | dff | got it off a dodgy torrent site too |
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| 10:11.17 | Imran-UK | cymers, you never know. it could be a dodgy version of skype for all i know |
| 10:12.25 | Imran-UK | i dont think it's too contrived to think that someone malicious might use .deb, its used for ubuntu (very popular) and the process for making a .deb isnt a secret |
| 10:12.44 | Imran-UK | dff, dont use it |
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| 10:13.10 | cmyers | I suppose, I mean more that it is a lot of effort to go through when a tarball is more "cross distro friendly" |
| 10:13.16 | cmyers | and much less effort. |
| 10:13.28 | cmyers | anyways, I never had much luck finding such things for linux anyways |
| 10:13.35 | Imran-UK | with windows stuff from a torrent, you can at least get *some* assurance by running several virus checkers against it but with a .gz |
| 10:13.48 | cmyers | why bother to pirate software when free and open source alternatives almost always work just as well? |
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| 10:14.09 | Imran-UK | cymers, right. but a .deb is more likely to be used by a newbie |
| 10:14.11 | cmyers | I mean, unless you are doing HDL synthesis, mathematical modeling, or some crazy thing like that. |
| 10:14.12 | jimcooncat | Imran-UK: that's no assurance for a zero day exploit |
| 10:14.19 | Imran-UK | jimcooncat, granted |
| 10:14.54 | jimcooncat | got bit many years ago |
| 10:15.01 | Imran-UK | but my point is, what is there for a pre-compiled .gz for linux that you can use for assurance other than md5sums? |
| 10:15.10 | Imran-UK | or that dff can use |
| 10:16.14 | cmyers | if you are "tin foil hat" enough to ask the question, one gathers that means you are concerned running the "potential malware" as an unpriviledged user is not safe. Does this mean you expect it to have a kernel-level exploit? Perhaps it will detect some services your machine is running which are exploitable? But if you believe that, you might as well also believe it can detect and break out of a chroot, or even a VM. It is certainly possible to break a |
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| 10:16.27 | cmyers | so just how risk-adverse are you going to be? |
| 10:16.29 | dff | cmyers: it's a ventrilo server crack |
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| 10:16.43 | dff | please show me the open source version that works just as well |
| 10:17.17 | cmyers | aserick can be set up to do some of that I think. Skype is a free service which requires no crack to do online voice chat and is being open-sourced too. |
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| 10:17.39 | jimcooncat | dff can unplug his hard drive and lan, and run his fun new software off a livecd. Hopefully it won't install itself in the bios. |
| 10:17.48 | cmyers | I see no reason to use non-free (as in beer) software, even when the software available is less free (as in speech) than you might like. |
| 10:18.14 | dff | fine but dont force your gay values on others |
| 10:18.26 | dff | i want to use pirated and cracked software |
| 10:18.35 | dff | if you dont want to give advice on, just stfu |
| 10:18.40 | dff | on it |
| 10:18.50 | cmyers | um...kay. You came here seeking advice. I suggest if you don't want to listen to the advice you receive, you go elsewhere. |
| 10:18.59 | dff | your advice is shit |
| 10:19.02 | dff | use skype? |
| 10:19.03 | dff | lol |
| 10:19.04 | Imran-UK | dff, that attitude is uncalled for. we're giving you help and advice for free |
| 10:19.17 | dff | im thankful for your help Imran-UK and jimcooncat |
| 10:19.18 | jimcooncat | i suppose this isn't exactly a debian topic anyway |
| 10:19.39 | dff | jimcooncat: my original question was how do i check a tarball for malware |
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| 10:20.23 | cmyers | no, it isn't. but just like dff should be able to download all the free software he wants, whether it was licensed that way or not, he should also be able to take and take all the time and advice of other people, without contributing back, and when he hears something he doesn't like, respond with insulting and childish slurs. |
| 10:20.25 | jimcooncat | dff, you can't. |
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| 10:21.31 | dff | your advice was a lecture in not using cracked software and suggesting skype, that is plain crappy advice cmyers |
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| 10:21.54 | dff | jimcooncat just answered the question for me |
| 10:21.56 | jimcooncat | dff, even if you have source code, you could spend a year checking it to see if it was going to do anything you don't want to your system. If you're slow like me |
| 10:22.01 | ^shark_ | says that was atypo |
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| 10:22.47 | jimcooncat | dff malware is subjective, some people think living with herpes is no big deal |
| 10:23.02 | dff | only people with herpes would say that |
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| 10:31.38 | half^a^biscuit | rofl dff |
| 10:31.51 | half^a^biscuit | thats a quote if ever ive heard one |
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| 10:32.46 | leejongwook | what repo do you all use ? debian or squeeze ? |
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| 10:34.16 | tarzeau | leejongwook: lenny and sid here. |
| 10:34.22 | tarzeau | leejongwook: it's all debian here |
| 10:34.24 | iceroot | leejongwook: debian is not a repo |
| 10:34.29 | half^a^biscuit | my 200mhz embedded board uses lenny |
| 10:34.41 | half^a^biscuit | pity i cant turn off dma |
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| 10:34.54 | leejongwook | :) |
| 10:35.02 | half^a^biscuit | freebsd works fine on it |
| 10:35.03 | leejongwook | yes :) |
| 10:35.14 | leejongwook | lenny and squeeze :) |
| 10:35.27 | leejongwook | so you use sid.. hmm.. interesting |
| 10:36.12 | leejongwook | i want a little bit of change, but also wants stable |
| 10:36.36 | babilen | leejongwook: sounds like stable+bpo or testing to me |
| 10:36.38 | leejongwook | wanna add a little bitty of fancy look |
| 10:36.49 | leejongwook | me, using stable now |
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| 10:37.04 | leejongwook | wants some change a little bit @_@ |
| 10:37.04 | babilen | leejongwook: have a look at backports. |
| 10:37.11 | leejongwook | no |
| 10:37.24 | babilen | leejongwook: ok, don't look. fine with me. |
| 10:37.30 | leejongwook | :P |
| 10:38.18 | babilen | leejongwook: You can use whatever you like - it's your decision. It was just that your "little bit of change" sounds exactly like "stable+bpo" |
| 10:38.43 | leejongwook | bpo @_@ i see |
| 10:39.04 | babilen | !tell leejongwook -about bpo |
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| 10:40.00 | leejongwook | babilen, :) thanks |
| 10:40.30 | babilen | leejongwook: No problem. So you'll have look after all :-D |
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| 10:53.26 | zaidka | Hi. sometimes when my usb modem disconnects, i find that i can't reconnect using the same device (/dev/ttyACM0). And I find that there's a new device /dev/ttyACM1 which works. So everytime it disconnects, i have to use pppconfig and change the device (increment the number by 1). Can anyone help? |
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| 10:55.15 | zaidka | anyone? please |
| 10:55.23 | zaidka | Sometimes when my usb modem disconnects, i find that i can't reconnect using the same device (/dev/ttyACM0). And I find that there's a new device /dev/ttyACM1 which works. So everytime it disconnects, i have to use pppconfig and change the device (increment the number by 1). Can anyone help? |
| 10:55.41 | Element14 | uh, i'm no expert on the matter but you can take a look at udev persistent rules |
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| 10:57.13 | zaidka | ithanks Element14, i'll look into it |
| 10:57.17 | SparFux | Hi all. Hi all. I have a strange error with debian unstable using ifupdown and guessnet. In this setup: http://pastebin.com/d5f4fedf4 the bootup and network configuration of eth0-home works ok, but not eth0-rike. on rike network I get RTLINKNET error device not found. I think both setups of eth0 are pretty much identically so I wonder what could cause that. |
| 10:58.38 | SparFux | sry, wrong url. setup is here: http://pastebin.com/m1c143013 |
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| 10:59.39 | SparFux | After doing ifdown eth0 && |
| 10:59.39 | SparFux | ifup eth0 even eth0-rike works ok, so it's only a bootup problem. |
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| 11:15.46 | Zahrul | aloha |
| 11:16.07 | scyld | Hi! How to force lenny not loading specified kernel modules at boot → like ipv6, pcspkr, parport stuff and so on? |
| 11:16.23 | Zahrul | sry god morning |
| 11:16.29 | babilen | !blacklist |
| 11:16.29 | dpkg | In etch, lenny and sid, create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf and add a line similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name". IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. To blacklist a module at installation time, ask me about <installer blacklist>. If this doesn't work, do 'echo "install modulename /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf'. |
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| 11:18.29 | scyld | babilen: hmm... but in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist it is written that : it does not affect autoloading of kernel modules, just a udev stuff. |
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| 11:28.18 | babilen | scyld: The factoid is not speaking about /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf but /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf. You can create a file with an arbitrary name ( NAME.conf ) in modprobe.d and list the modules you want to blacklist in there. I have a file alsa-base-blacklist.conf in there for example. |
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| 11:29.17 | SparFux | Zahrul: put the module names in /etc/modules? |
| 11:29.23 | SparFux | ls |
| 11:29.24 | leejongwook | babilen, suggest me a good thing for me please :) i'm good to get packages from backport. |
| 11:29.38 | leejongwook | anything look fancy :P |
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| 11:29.46 | SparFux | Zahrul: It might be neccessary to run update-initramfs if you are using initrd. |
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| 11:29.54 | babilen | scyld: http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting |
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| 11:30.13 | leejongwook | hard to find what i want |
| 11:30.22 | scyld | babilen: ok, great, tnx :-) |
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| 11:31.20 | babilen | scyld: The suggestion usually is to create a file module_name.conf with blacklist module_name in modprobe.d |
| 11:31.42 | babilen | leejongwook: How could I possibly know what you might want‽ |
| 11:31.59 | leejongwook | @_@ um... |
| 11:32.00 | scyld | babilen: too much files ;) |
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| 11:32.58 | leejongwook | a utillity program ? that you use it most or something similiar one |
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| 11:37.45 | babilen | leejongwook: A utility program that does what exactly? Sorry, I have no idea how you want to use your computer... |
| 11:37.54 | caraconan | Hi. When I try a 'su www-data' from root, and then type one letter, the www-data session closes. Why? |
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| 11:38.10 | leejongwook | babilen, :) ok |
| 11:38.14 | caraconan | It happened to me in differents machine in the past, and I don't know why |
| 11:38.40 | babilen | leejongwook: If you want to spend some quality time with it, install ghc6 and read: http://learnyouahaskell.com/ |
| 11:39.25 | babilen | leejongwook: Or read the "Securing Debian" manual and implement everything you find important... |
| 11:39.35 | leejongwook | @_@ |
| 11:39.50 | leejongwook | sounds deep :P but interesting :) |
| 11:40.19 | babilen | leejongwook: learn python, perl, iptables, OpenGL programming, mail server administration, sound engineering, ... you get the idea ;-) |
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| 11:40.33 | leejongwook | @_@ |
| 11:40.44 | leejongwook | :) |
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| 11:43.52 | [Elvis] | hej guys, how can I see which program is running on port 22? |
| 11:44.22 | caraconan | Some help with strange 'su www-data'? |
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| 11:45.54 | greenmang0 | [Elvis]: netstat -atulnp - as a root user |
| 11:46.34 | greenmang0 | [Elvis]: netstat -atulnp | grep 22 |
| 11:47.21 | Hyperi- | caraconan: strange == ? |
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| 11:48.47 | omidbimo | if you never read something called "The Paradox of our time", make sure to read this >> http://cubez.wordpress.com/2009/05/06/the-paradox-of-our-time/ |
| 11:49.10 | themill | omidbimo: wrong channel? |
| 11:49.37 | babilen | [Elvis]: I found: http://pastebin.com/f3568c97b to be of great value too. It lists the packages the programs that run on open ports are installed from |
| 11:50.06 | babilen | [Elvis]: also grep PORT /etc/services |
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| 11:51.30 | [Elvis] | great ba babilen thanks |
| 11:51.33 | [Elvis] | babilen even |
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| 11:57.35 | jill | hi |
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| 11:58.09 | jill | can i view images with only base debian system, i mean console |
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| 11:59.01 | NBZ4live | ASCII Images:-D |
| 11:59.02 | bambam_ | How can I assign permissions to only a particular group to access a specific filesystem |
| 11:59.21 | bambam_ | and filesystem can be ntfs ? |
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| 12:01.35 | Zahrul | @sparfux .....? |
| 12:01.42 | babilen | jill: fbi, fim *might* be what you are looking for. I don't use them though... |
| 12:01.52 | omidbimo | themill: oops! sorry |
| 12:02.14 | jill | babilen: thanks |
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| 12:03.51 | Zahrul | @sparfux sry i'm a debian noob |
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| 12:07.41 | rvsjoen | morning ladies |
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| 12:17.57 | victoria | hi, I'm creating a debian cd installer with build-simple-cdd |
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| 12:18.18 | victoria | and testing it with build-simple-cdd --qemu |
| 12:18.29 | victoria | and preseeding as default |
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| 12:19.08 | victoria | and the problem is that while installing, the screen to choose the destination disk does not appear |
| 12:19.38 | victoria | and it tries to install debian on the first hard disk |
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| 12:19.51 | victoria | I can't even choose manual partition |
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| 12:24.35 | tesuki | What happens if I create a package with a command in it with the name like "guml" (GNOME-UML or something) and make a package. there is a other package called guml. How does dpkg handle this? |
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| 12:25.24 | tesuki | (the content of the package have identical binary names not the package name are the same). |
| 12:25.25 | jill | can i made screenshot one of my screen if i use framebuffer? |
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| 12:25.42 | scyld | Which runlevel configuration tool should I use (like chkconfig)? |
| 12:26.18 | rvsjoen | I like sysv-rc-conf |
| 12:26.26 | rvsjoen | or just update-rc.d |
| 12:26.35 | scyld | ok, tnx |
| 12:26.59 | jill | is there ncurses video player in debian repositories? |
| 12:27.18 | rvsjoen | you want to show video in a terminal ? |
| 12:27.37 | jill | yes, something like mocp |
| 12:27.47 | craigevil | jill: yes using scrot, to the sceeen shot question, mplayer or xine can work in frambuffer |
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| 12:28.12 | jill | craigevil: scrot? hmm |
| 12:28.44 | craigevil | scrot - command line screen capture utility |
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| 12:29.17 | jill | cool |
| 12:29.19 | VI_Lenin | Hi everybody! Can you please advice the easiest way to get Firefox 3 on Etch? |
| 12:29.54 | catsup | swiftfox repo perhaps |
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| 12:30.56 | jill | craigevil: how can i use scrot from finch? |
| 12:31.13 | catsup | or just extract the tarball firefox mozilla into a directory like say /opt/firefox-version/ and then put a link in /usr/local/bin to run the binary |
| 12:31.36 | catsup | oops i mean mozilla's firefox tarball |
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| 12:32.56 | craigevil | jill: never used finch, it works from irssi |
| 12:33.49 | jill | why gpm doesnt work as i want =) |
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| 12:34.14 | VI_Lenin | I tried to just run FF, but got: You have GTK+ 2.8. This application requires GTK+ 2.10 or newer. |
| 12:34.29 | hark | firefox 3 requires gtk 2.10 |
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| 12:34.39 | hark | !firefox 3 etch |
| 12:34.39 | dpkg | Firefox 3 requires GTK+ 2.10 and etch has GTK+ 2.8, see http://mynbook.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/debian-etch-gtk-212-firefox-3/ and http://www.captain.at/howto-run-firefox-3-debian-etch.php at your own risk, or just wait until someone backports it (if you believe that a backport will ever come...), or http://linuxgazette.net/150/kapil.html, or http://www.linuxscrew.com/2008/06/21/install-firefox-3-in-debian-etch/ |
| 12:35.22 | hark | catsup: won't work |
| 12:35.36 | hark | catsup: oops |
| 12:36.19 | VI_Lenin | getting GTK 2.10 requires total update :-( |
| 12:36.29 | hark | yeah, it's messed up |
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| 12:36.56 | kaduk | Hi |
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| 12:37.15 | kaduk | Is there a tool that allows to install mesa from source and then completly remove it ? |
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| 12:37.22 | kaduk | checkinstall fails at building package |
| 12:37.30 | tesuki | Can you not just compile GTK and put it in /opt/firefox3/lib and point /etc/ld.so.conf to that folder. |
| 12:37.54 | tesuki | and put the rest of firefox3 binaries in /opt/firefox3 |
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| 12:38.22 | kaduk | testi, can I put mesa library and point ld.so.conf there? |
| 12:38.30 | kaduk | tesuki, it was to you |
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| 12:39.55 | tesuki | put mesa where? in /opt/blabla I think soo. just add the entry "/opt/blabla/lib" in ld.so.conf (if you have libmesa.so in /opt/blabla/lib) |
| 12:39.57 | VI_Lenin | I'll try... Thank you! |
| 12:40.28 | tesuki | after updating ld.so.conf run ldconfig as root. |
| 12:41.20 | kaduk | tesuki, hm how about dri drivers ? |
| 12:41.49 | kaduk | tesuki, I guess they're loaded by Xorg, is there any other way to install software in debian by normal make install but then be able to completly remove it? |
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| 12:45.33 | tesuki | if you run ./configure --prefix=/opt/<package name> then to remove the package you just need to rm -vfR /opt/<package name> |
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| 12:46.13 | tesuki | some makefiles have so you can run make uninstall and then make will remove the program files |
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| 12:47.14 | Element14 | you can always make a debian package yourself and install that... |
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| 12:50.09 | tesuki | Can I tell debian to install a package in /opt/<package name>? so it don't mess with the standrad directory hirachy? |
| 12:50.45 | tesuki | I don't find anything with apt-get --help |
| 12:51.15 | kaduk | tesuki, I tried checkinstall but it fails with mesa source |
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| 12:53.57 | hark | tesuki: no, but dpkg supports --root=dir or you can unpack it. but there's no guarantees especially with package scripts |
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| 12:54.26 | hark | kaduk: there's also stow /msg dpkg stow |
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| 12:54.47 | kaduk | hark, does stow keep traks of what is installed ? |
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| 12:55.27 | hark | kaduk: yes |
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| 12:55.38 | hark | !tell kaduk about stow |
| 12:55.42 | hark | !tell kaduk about stow-usage |
| 12:55.56 | hark | !tell kaduk about stow usage |
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| 12:57.09 | ccbbaa | has anyone here seen the ALSA 0.9 error on skype ? i can't install skype |
| 12:58.19 | kronic | I'm trying to achieve the following: have user info (uid, shell, home dir) from ldap, and password (for login) from radius, I have ldap configured in nssswitch,conf and pam_radius_auth.so in common-auth common-account |
| 12:58.50 | kronic | however when I ssh in with an ldap account, it's very slow for lookup, allows login, however bash reports no username |
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| 12:59.49 | kaduk | hark, in this case I probably will have to remove packages with mesa, so Xorg finds those in /usr/local |
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| 13:00.31 | kaduk | ccbbaa, what error? |
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| 13:00.42 | kaduk | ccbbaa, skype works fine |
| 13:01.04 | ccbbaa | kaduk: ./skype: relocation error: ./skype: symbol snd_device_name_hint, version ALSA_0.9 not defined in file libasound.so.2 with link time reference |
| 13:01.24 | ccbbaa | which makes no sense to me. there are several messages on the net about this |
| 13:01.29 | ccbbaa | what version do you have ? |
| 13:01.33 | ccbbaa | and on what debian |
| 13:01.39 | ccbbaa | im still on etch |
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| 13:01.53 | rindolf | Hi all. |
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| 13:02.02 | kaduk | ccbbaa, oh I use ia32-libs 20090808 |
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| 13:02.24 | ccbbaa | hmm ? whats that |
| 13:02.27 | rindolf | I'm on Debian Testing (latest) with an ATI Radeon HD 2600 card and IceWM and scrolling and moving windows is incredibly slow. |
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| 13:03.30 | rindolf | How can I fix it? |
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| 13:03.38 | kaduk | ccbbaa, and lib32asound2 1.0.21a-1 for alsa |
| 13:03.48 | kaduk | ccbbaa, on sid |
| 13:04.16 | ccbbaa | kaduk: doh. looks like i need to upgrade. that word makes me shiver |
| 13:04.33 | kaduk | ccbbaa, sid breaks often:P |
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| 13:05.56 | themill | ccbbaa: the skype web page only claims to support lenny, not etch. It's quite possible that upgrading to lenny is required. /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
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| 13:06.27 | zmitya | ih everybody |
| 13:06.39 | zmitya | ugys, what is the max size of a ramdisk in a 32bit OS ? |
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| 13:06.49 | zmitya | can I use more than 4G as RAMDISK ? |
| 13:06.52 | ccbbaa | themill: you mean /query ? |
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| 13:07.11 | kaduk | zmitya, isnt ramdisk limited by your ram ? |
| 13:07.27 | kaduk | zmitya, and why you would need such a big one? |
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| 13:07.41 | zmitya | kaduk: we are wondeting that we will buy 32G into the server, because we would require a 15G ramdisk |
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| 13:07.56 | eean | I have a package installed from source. is there an easy way to make other packages not complain about the lack of dependency? |
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| 13:08.13 | zmitya | a special app requires a really fast disk |
| 13:08.17 | zuberot | hello, can anyone tell how to make custom task in tasksel list, i'm trying this http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-boot@lists.debian.org/msg66370.html but nothing |
| 13:08.18 | kaduk | zmitya, ok I give up, too advanced topic |
| 13:08.24 | avu | eean, equivs |
| 13:08.27 | joltcan | zmitya: Not sure what you are trying to acomplish, but have you considered SSDs? |
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| 13:09.04 | eean | avu: how do you do a equivs? |
| 13:09.21 | zmitya | joltcan: actually not yet.. this is a call recorder application which writes down ~1000 simultaneous calls |
| 13:09.30 | Element14 | zmitya: isn't a 32-bit OS limited by 4G ram? (unless you specifically tweak the kernel or things like that) |
| 13:09.33 | zmitya | so maybe SSD would die quickly |
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| 13:09.44 | lancelot_of | hi all |
| 13:09.46 | avu | eean, 'equivs' is the name of a package |
| 13:09.46 | ccbbaa | ssd never dies |
| 13:09.50 | eean | avu: ah ok thanks |
| 13:09.52 | lancelot_of | is there any barry user here? |
| 13:10.01 | ccbbaa | you will die when you will pay for 32G ssd but that's not an it issue |
| 13:10.01 | zmitya | Element14: thats why I'm here :) |
| 13:10.03 | joltcan | zmitya: check, just a thought |
| 13:10.37 | Element14 | zmitya: but then you'll probably need to look at how to get all that ram recognized by the OS before looking at whether you can create a ramdisk..? |
| 13:10.57 | zmitya | joltcan: not a bad idea anyway |
| 13:11.01 | Element14 | btw why don't you just use a 64 bit OS since 64 systems are so common these days |
| 13:11.07 | zmitya | Element14: sure, thats the first question :) |
| 13:11.22 | zmitya | Element14: the call rec application is tested only on 32bit |
| 13:11.42 | eean | you can install 32bit apps on 64bit os without much trouble |
| 13:12.26 | zmitya | eean: what are the bottlenecks running 32bit apps on 64bit OS ? |
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| 13:13.05 | eean | high-performance bottlenecks? no clue dude, you'll need to hire a pro for that. :D but as far as problems, you just have to get the 32bit libraries installed |
| 13:14.03 | Element14 | zmitya: btw you might wish to look at http://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-image-2.6-686-bigmem |
| 13:14.45 | kaduk | Is it possible to force stow -t ? |
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| 13:15.23 | lancelot_of | is it possible to build the address book of a blackberry with bary packae in debian?if so, how to? the home page of th project says yes, but the man pages do not mention this possibility elsewhere |
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| 13:16.37 | zmitya | Element14: thanks |
| 13:16.40 | zmitya | checking it |
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| 13:21.24 | WhiteCrow1 | hi guy's |
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| 13:22.24 | WhiteCrow1 | i want , when my debian run , run some program , how can i do this ? |
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| 13:22.55 | Titan8990_ | WhiteCrow1, on bootup or on login? |
| 13:22.56 | NoReflex | Hello! I have a router with 2.6.22.19-72. It has three network interfaces (eth0 - LAN), eth1- (ISP1 - 3 IP addresses), eth2 - (ISP2 - 5 IP addresses). One IP of eth1 is set as the default gw, howerver I want to connect to a certain IP address using an IP address of eth2. Would adding a route be enough? |
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| 13:23.14 | Titan8990_ | !startup |
| 13:23.14 | dpkg | init.d is where most Debian startup scripts go. To add your own, copy /etc/init.d/skeleton to myscript and make it do the appropriate thing on start and stop, at least. Then "update-rc.d myscript defaults". See "man update-rc.d" and /usr/share/doc/sysvinit and /etc/init.d/README. Also ask me about <bootmisc> <rc.local> <runlevel>.. For squeeze onwards, LSB headers must be added. See http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts |
| 13:23.17 | WhiteCrow1 | Titan8990- login |
| 13:23.22 | NoReflex | I tried route add -host $ip.dst gw $ip.eth2 but it doesn't seem to work |
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| 13:24.02 | Titan8990_ | WhiteCrow1, you need to use the session manager for whatever your desktop is |
| 13:25.22 | WhiteCrow1 | Titan8990- where can i finde session manager |
| 13:25.50 | Titan8990_ | WhiteCrow1, what desktop are you using? |
| 13:26.06 | WhiteCrow1 | Titan8990 gnome |
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| 13:26.35 | Titan8990_ | WhiteCrow1, i think its called gnome-session-manager or something like that under the system menu |
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| 13:28.18 | Titan8990_ | WhiteCrow1, looks like its actually called gnome-session-properties and you should be able to launch from terminal |
| 13:28.51 | Element14 | NoReflex: did you try specifying the device using the "dev" argument? |
| 13:29.09 | WhiteCrow1 | Titan8990- tnx dude |
| 13:29.11 | NoReflex | Element14: I did not use dev... |
| 13:29.37 | Element14 | NoReflex: try route add -host $ip.dst dev eth2 ? |
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| 13:40.47 | Circuitsoft | Hello. Running Lenny on a laptop with Intel G45 graphics. |
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| 13:41.11 | Circuitsoft | Using xrandr to enable the second monitor with --left-of, it takes several minutes for the monitor to enable, and X takes 50% cpu during this time. |
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| 13:41.35 | Circuitsoft | Any ideas what could be causing this? |
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| 13:46.49 | g00se | Of course, speaker-test is normally used for testing sound cards, but is it possible to use it on the *internal speaker*? |
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| 13:49.02 | cahoot | does the pcspeaker have a specific card# in /proc/asound? |
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| 13:50.14 | NoReflex | Element14: I aplogize for the delay. I did route add -host $ip.dst gw $gw_ip.eth2 ($gw_ip_eth2 is the gateway for eth2) . If I try to connect now it connects using the first IP of eth2 but I want to use the second IP of eth2 |
| 13:50.54 | Element14 | NoNaMeNo: how are you setting multiple IPs for a single interface? |
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| 13:52.11 | exn | hey ! anybody know a good free hosting with php ? |
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| 13:54.38 | NBZ4live | I know free php+MySQL hostings. But there are no "GOOD" hostings |
| 13:54.48 | g00se | cahoot: Not sure - i'll take a look |
| 13:56.06 | mesaGL | there is no good php anyways |
| 13:56.11 | NoReflex | Element14: from the firewall configuration webpage |
| 13:56.27 | ranix | there is too good php |
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| 13:57.04 | Element14 | NoReflex: does `ifconfig | grep eth2` show things like eth2:1 eth2:2 etc? |
| 13:57.52 | NoReflex | Element14: no; it just shows eth2 and the mac address |
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| 13:59.34 | Element14 | hmm... interesting. the only way I know how to get an interface to get multiple addresses is to do ethx:0, ethx:1 ethx:2, ethx:3 etc... |
| 13:59.45 | Element14 | which i guess would be ok to pass to route |
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| 14:00.48 | NoReflex | Element14: the distro I use for the firewall is endian-firewall, but since there's no endian channel I though I'd ask some users with more experience and I chose #debian |
| 14:00.54 | g00se | cahoot: For card0 there doesn't seem to be much mention of 'speaker', but should i be looking for that quoted word or something else? |
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| 14:01.20 | yowlst | hi to all |
| 14:01.40 | NoReflex | I found a file called settings in /var/efw/uplinks/uplink2 and there I can find the multiple IP addresses but I don't know how these settings are applied to interface... |
| 14:02.20 | Element14 | NoReflex: obviously i'm not somebody with more experience :) don't think i can help further... you might want to check out the docs for your distro more carefully |
| 14:02.26 | yowlst | is it possible to include an apt instance during a .deb postinst? |
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| 14:03.04 | Element14 | if they're specializing on these kind of networking stuff they might have things to cover your case...... i mean, it's not an uncommon task |
| 14:03.05 | iceroot | yowlst: depends and pre-depends |
| 14:03.13 | iceroot | yowlst: at the control-file |
| 14:03.16 | cahoot | g00se: speaker-test uses alsa so to use it for your pcspeaker I suppose you need alsa 'running' the device - probably via snd-pcsp |
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| 14:03.30 | FilipeMaia | Did anyone lost the Latex menu in auctex in sid? The menu is there but is empty and I have no idea why? |
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| 14:03.56 | yowlst | iceroot, yes but if i would to determine some conditions (if statments) ? |
| 14:04.13 | NoReflex | unfortunately the docs just explain the web interface...and what I want isn't there; anyway thank you for your help :) |
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| 14:04.37 | iceroot | yowlst: hm, i dont know, i was only using the control-file |
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| 14:04.56 | iceroot | yowlst: i guess you can use them in postinst with if but i dont think that is the common way |
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| 14:05.16 | g00se | cahoot: OK thanks, but how would i get it to do that in practice? |
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| 14:06.26 | yowlst | iceroot, i mean install a deb and run postinst. Then if something is true, aptitude for that, else keep on running.. |
| 14:06.38 | cahoot | snd-pcsp loaded according to lsmod? |
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| 14:07.35 | karname | hi , I have 1 physical interface(eth0) with 4 ip aliases (eth0:1-eth0:4 with 4 valid Ip like 69.163.36.240-243) , I want to send all of traffic to one IP like (34.24.52.1) from eth02 , means 34.24.52.1 identify me by 69.163.36.241 , I heard I should to use route command , how can me do it ? |
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| 14:09.35 | jae | NoReflex: check with the "ip" tool (it's the "iproute" package, not sure you have that, or just try "ip addr" on the console) |
| 14:09.50 | Titan8990_ | karname, I have a feeling thats not going to work if your using ip masquerading |
| 14:09.59 | jae | Element14: "ip addr" is a way to set multiple addresses, and they don |
| 14:10.01 | g00se | cahoot: sudo lsmod | grep pcsp returns 'pcspkr' |
| 14:10.06 | NoReflex | jae I did check with ip addr and it does list the ip addresses |
| 14:10.07 | jae | don't show up in ifconfig |
| 14:10.09 | NoReflex | all of them |
| 14:10.21 | g00se | cahoot: (I just modprobed it) |
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| 14:11.03 | NoReflex | there are lines like inet xx.xx.xx.xx/29 brd xx.xx.xx.xx scope global secondary eth2 |
| 14:11.22 | cahoot | first rmmod both pcspkr and snd-pcsp; then modprobe snd-pcsp |
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| 14:11.28 | NoReflex | first group of xx is the IP address, the second group is the gateway |
| 14:11.46 | whammo | !users-admin |
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| 14:12.03 | cahoot | g00se: then you might see the pcspeaker in alsamixer |
| 14:12.06 | abrotman | whammo: do you need help? |
| 14:12.36 | karname | I use before /sbin/iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j SNAT --to 69.163.36.241 , but it sent all of my traffic via 69.163.36.241 , but I need to send only traffic to this ip (34.24.52.1) via 69.163.36.241 |
| 14:12.36 | whammo | abrotman: yeah you familiar with the users-admin lockout? |
| 14:12.47 | abrotman | nope .. |
| 14:13.14 | abrotman | how did you get a user locked out? are you just trying to unlock it? |
| 14:13.16 | whammo | abrotman: my 2nd clean install in two days and I got it again |
| 14:13.18 | karname | Titan8990_: see above |
| 14:13.20 | Titan8990_ | google returned tons of windows related stuff to "users-admin lockout" |
| 14:13.28 | abrotman | whammo: clean install of what? |
| 14:13.39 | abrotman | Titan8990_: not totally surprised there |
| 14:13.48 | whammo | abrotman: ahh etch, with some 64studio stuff |
| 14:13.55 | jae | NoReflex: I'm not sure how to solve your problem, but I'd advise using "ip" completely, as to keep it all together |
| 14:13.59 | abrotman | 64studio is its own distro |
| 14:14.04 | abrotman | (and not supported here) |
| 14:14.11 | jae | There's an "ip route" subcommand there, check with that |
| 14:14.31 | NoReflex | will do jae, thank you |
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| 14:14.46 | whammo | abrotman: ok, but the problem is not limited to 64, is it? basically etch install with an updated ardour and a neat kernel |
| 14:14.51 | jae | isn't such a network guru that he has the proper incantation readily available ;) |
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| 14:15.13 | abrotman | whammo: okay ... how did you lock the user? |
| 14:15.40 | whammo | abrotman: i didn't. permissions have been the same since install |
| 14:16.05 | abrotman | whammo: let's start with the actual problem |
| 14:16.21 | whammo | abrotman: i have a guess something is up with liboobs |
| 14:16.50 | jae | Free advice: if you're searching for Linux-related stuff, always add "linux" as a search term ;-) |
| 14:17.07 | OpenTokix | hot naked girls linux |
| 14:17.16 | abrotman | whammo: i'm still confused how the user is locked out |
| 14:17.22 | whammo | abrotman: if i open a root terminal, and sudo users-admin still no in. isn't that really unusual? |
| 14:18.11 | abrotman | if you're already root .. why are you doing sudo ? |
| 14:18.26 | Titan8990_ | jae, you don't have to if you use http://google.com/linux |
| 14:19.03 | abrotman | whammo: so you're trying to run the gnome users-admin tool, correct? sux users-admin ? |
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| 14:19.10 | Titan8990_ | jae, it only searches linux related documents |
| 14:19.26 | whammo | abrotman: just for fun, doesn't matter. there is no way in without making some sort of adjustment |
| 14:19.44 | Titan8990_ | still doesn't know whats going on |
| 14:19.55 | abrotman | whammo: so as a regular user if you run users-admin .. what happens? |
| 14:19.56 | Titan8990_ | can't get into a gui for managing users, is that right? |
| 14:20.05 | whammo | abrotman: same thing |
| 14:20.06 | abrotman | apparently .. |
| 14:20.11 | abrotman | whammo: sux users-admin ? |
| 14:20.16 | abrotman | gksudo users-admin ? |
| 14:20.22 | whammo | abrotman: what is this sux? |
| 14:20.25 | abrotman | boggles why people are using etch ... |
| 14:20.33 | abrotman | whammo: it's a command .. su for X .. roughly |
| 14:20.41 | abrotman | or are you already running X as root? |
| 14:21.01 | Titan8990_ | abrotman, maybe they bought a VPS and got screwed :) |
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| 14:21.15 | whammo | no root login |
| 14:21.31 | Titan8990_ | whammo, why is that? |
| 14:21.57 | g00se | cahoot: Stupidly, i'm not sure whether i should be using snd_* or snd-* for modprobe |
| 14:22.04 | whammo | it was an option available from the expert install. I had this exact same problem yesterday so i though i'd try something different |
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| 14:23.09 | Titan8990_ | there was an option in the installer to lock the root account??] |
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| 14:23.28 | whammo | no, the lock is unusual |
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| 14:23.45 | Titan8990_ | whammo, how do you know its locked? |
| 14:23.49 | whammo | as user when i sudo users-admin i see this error in terminal |
| 14:23.57 | whammo | (users-admin:4132): Liboobs-WARNING **: There was an unknown error communicating with the backends: Process /usr/share//system-tools-backends-2.0/scripts/SystemToolsBackends.pl exited with status 2 |
| 14:23.59 | abrotman | Titan8990_: there's an option to disable the root acct |
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| 14:24.20 | Titan8990_ | abrotman, automatically install sudo I'm guessing? |
| 14:24.35 | abrotman | apparently |
| 14:24.46 | Titan8990_ | in etch? |
| 14:25.02 | whammo | look at that error... you see the extra / between share and system in the path there? |
| 14:25.04 | Titan8990_ | well, guess so |
| 14:25.30 | Titan8990_ | whammo, users-admin came from a debian package? |
| 14:25.36 | abrotman | whammo: shouldn't matter as long as /usr/share/systel-tools-backends-2.0/ is there |
| 14:25.41 | abrotman | Titan8990_: it's a gnome thing |
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| 14:26.01 | whammo | hmm |
| 14:26.13 | Titan8990_ | abrotman, yeah, i just want to verify that it didn't come from a sid repo on a etch system or something like that |
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| 14:27.02 | abrotman | NFC .. he's mixing Debian with 64studio .. who knows what is going on |
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| 14:27.37 | whammo | I don't think the bug really really affects me seriously, but it is a known bug already was hoping somebody had an answer for it |
| 14:27.55 | abrotman | whammo: is there some reason you're not using lenny instead ? |
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| 14:28.27 | whammo | abrotman: compatibility, on a hunch |
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| 14:28.39 | abrotman | okay .. let me rephrase .. what do you need 64studio for? |
| 14:28.44 | gorp | what is the prefered win manager for Debian ? gnustep ? |
| 14:28.54 | abrotman | gorp: whichever you pick |
| 14:29.02 | Titan8990_ | gorp, it whatever your preferred wm is |
| 14:29.08 | whammo | abrotman: they have an excellent custom rt kernel |
| 14:29.24 | xyan | whammo: google didnt help? http://www.64studio.com/node/85 |
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| 14:30.41 | Titan8990_ | whammo, i don't see that bug in BTS, where did you find it as a known bug? |
| 14:31.10 | whammo | abrotman: i've tried several fixed. like most bugs-on-forum it end when one guy says it's fixed... if you know what I mean |
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| 14:31.51 | gorp | objectively gnome is too buggy, and kde4 is incredibly slowwwwww .... |
| 14:32.06 | abrotman | gorp: so which WM do you want? |
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| 14:32.27 | abrotman | whammo: so you've installed the package that xyan's link points you at ? |
| 14:32.35 | whammo | abrotman: thanks anyway I'll try that too |
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| 14:32.45 | gorp | what about xfce ? |
| 14:33.31 | Titan8990_ | gorp, http://imagebin.ca/view/XEDsesN.html |
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| 14:34.22 | abrotman | gorp: install it if oyu want it .. it's not hard |
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| 14:34.51 | gorp | Titan8990, gimme some clue ... an heavily customize kde env ? |
| 14:34.54 | abrotman | Titan8990_: does the dock always float on top when windows are maximized under it? |
| 14:34.59 | abrotman | gorp: it's XFCE |
| 14:35.25 | Titan8990_ | abrotman, no, the dock and the top panel both auto-hide |
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| 14:35.40 | M4K4V3l1 | Hi all |
| 14:35.41 | abrotman | Titan8990_: not sure that's any better .. but okay |
| 14:35.55 | gorp | XFCE ??? who .... the dock doesn't look like the standard xfce's one |
| 14:36.06 | Titan8990_ | abrotman, ah, im a big fan of auto-hide panels... |
| 14:36.21 | Titan8990_ | gorp, its xfce running compiz and avant-window-manager |
| 14:36.38 | Titan8990_ | err avant-window-navigator |
| 14:36.39 | whammo | abrotman: yeah looks like unsatisfied dependencies for gnome-system-tools, except not flagged as such? |
| 14:36.46 | M4K4V3l1 | I am using "apt-get" program to install "openldap".. but the problem is that it takes too much time in "set up" step ? any explanation ? |
| 14:36.48 | abrotman | whammo: or you're mixing two distros ... |
| 14:37.21 | gorp | compiz ???? doesn't aware about compiz+XFCE, You have the XFCE bar floating on top of the windows |
| 14:37.23 | whammo | abrotman: I have to admit secure apt i kind of kicking my ass lately |
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| 14:38.02 | Titan8990_ | gorp, yeah, that auto-hides... I use compiz because the expo feature allows me to keep a VM full screen on one desktop while working on another |
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| 14:38.18 | xyan | abrotman: 64studio is based on debian, not really a distro itself besides adding a realtime enabled kernel and multimedia related applications |
| 14:38.39 | Titan8990_ | !based on debian |
| 14:38.40 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it probably falls short of Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is off-topic on #debian. |
| 14:38.41 | abrotman | xyan: based on debian is not debian .. i know what 64studio is |
| 14:39.09 | whammo | Titan8990_:sorry |
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| 14:39.29 | abrotman | !64studio |
| 14:39.29 | dpkg | 64 Studio is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, oriented towards audio/video recording and media production. It uses a custom kernel with realtime patches added. http://64studio.com/ #64studio on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 14:40.47 | xyan | abrotman: oh well and if they tell you that you will have 64studio when you add the 64studio repositories to your debian sources.list and apt-get install stuff is that called a distro then? |
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| 14:41.04 | Titan8990_ | xyan, its called mixing distros |
| 14:41.05 | g00se | cahoot: I hope i'm nearly there, but am note sure how to address the speaker with aplay: http://pastebin.com/f3e287081 |
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| 14:41.18 | abrotman | xyan: it's not called Debian anymore |
| 14:41.35 | whammo_ | wow so enabling anything outside of vanilla is mixing distros? |
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| 14:41.58 | xyan | abrotman: so if i compile my own packages from source and stick to a custom kernel, its not Debian anymore? |
| 14:41.58 | ranix | do not use non-Debian repositories |
| 14:42.04 | whammo_ | nvm i get it |
| 14:42.12 | abrotman | whammo_: 64studio is not Debian .. it is its own distro |
| 14:42.16 | ranix | if you install Ubuntu .debs or 64studio .debs, you no longer have Debian and your system is tainted |
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| 14:42.25 | ranix | for the purposes of support here |
| 14:42.40 | abrotman | and apparently your issue was 64studio specific |
| 14:42.41 | ranix | we support <bpo> and <dmm> |
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| 14:43.09 | whammo_ | ranix: what is that? |
| 14:43.20 | ranix | !tell whammo_ about bpo |
| 14:43.21 | xyan | backports and debian-multimedia |
| 14:43.23 | ranix | !tell whammo_ about dmm |
| 14:43.30 | iluminator101 | i get this nautilus error http://debian.pastebin.com/d5e6e10f6 |
| 14:44.11 | abrotman | actually .. i wouldn't even say dmm is supported |
| 14:44.27 | ranix | well we try |
| 14:44.30 | ranix | I do anyway |
| 14:44.32 | abrotman | whammo_: anyways .. you'd probably have a better chance at least using lenny and compiling your own RT kernel |
| 14:44.37 | cichlasoma | hi. don't you know a way how to easily download a deb package WITH ALL ITS DEPENDENCIES in a non-debian Linux system? |
| 14:44.53 | benedikt | Anybody having problems with rythmbox simply not playing songs? Seems to be linked with iceweasel |
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| 14:45.19 | abrotman | cichlasoma: meaning windows? or another linux system? |
| 14:45.27 | whammo_ | abrotman: thanks. if I run into any more unflagged dependencies I'll definitely consider that |
| 14:45.42 | themill | cichlasoma: /msg dpkg apt-walkabout ; (see the other factoids that references too) |
| 14:45.58 | Titan8990_ | abrotman, I think I have seen dmm related stuff on the official BTS |
| 14:46.11 | cichlasoma | abrotman: "in a non-debian Linux system" |
| 14:46.13 | abrotman | Titan8990_: seriously doubt it .. and if it was, it should have been closed |
| 14:46.36 | Titan8990_ | abrotman, I want to say it was VLC specifically, i will see if i can find it |
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| 14:48.09 | cichlasoma | themill: couldn't you be a bit more verbose, please? :-( |
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| 14:48.50 | Titan8990_ | !apt-walkabout |
| 14:48.51 | dpkg | apt-walkabout is, like, another tool for managing the distribution and upgrade of debian packages for non-connected or low-speed links computers. See http://quozl.netrek.org/apt-walkabout/ Also ask me about <apt-zip> <apt offline> |
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| 14:49.33 | Titan8990_ | abrotman, looks like I was confused by this: Maintainers for vlc are Debian multimedia packages maintainers <pkg-multimedia-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>. |
| 14:49.47 | abrotman | ah ok |
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| 14:52.47 | iluminator101 | nautilus crashes when i got preferences, here is my error http://debian.pastebin.com/d5e6e10f6 |
| 14:53.02 | abrotman | iluminator101: which versoin of Debian is this? |
| 14:53.18 | abrotman | iluminator101: oh wait .. tha'ts a known bug in squeeze ... |
| 14:53.22 | abrotman | !tell iluminator101 about the bts |
| 14:53.24 | abrotman | !tell iluminator101 about bts |
| 14:53.35 | iluminator101 | squeeze |
| 14:53.37 | cichlasoma | dpkg: Sorry to ask about obvious things, probably... Yet - should I be sure, I need to install apt to be able to download all the dependencies of a package? If so, don't you know a way how to get apt with all its dependencies? |
| 14:53.51 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, cichlasoma |
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| 14:55.27 | abrotman | cichlasoma: does the Debian system know about the packages? apt-get has an option to print the URIs .. you could dump those to a file and use wget |
| 14:55.46 | iluminator101 | abortman:is there a need to clear memory or something when i run java, b/z after if i try to run jdownloader more than once after boot, it wont run, even when kill java try to restart. any pointers on that. |
| 14:56.16 | abrotman | iluminator101: oh wait .. that's a known bug in squeeze ... use bugs.debian.org .. that should have been your first stop anyways |
| 14:56.50 | iluminator101 | i am talking about java,not nautilus??? |
| 14:57.01 | abrotman | NFC .. i don't use that app |
| 14:57.12 | abrotman | but the same thing still remains .. go look in the BTS |
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| 14:57.38 | themill | cichlasoma: start again. At the beginning. What are you trying to do? |
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| 14:59.41 | cichlasoma | abrotman: I'm not sure what Debian system are you talking about... Surely, I can set up one in a virtual machine e.g. and let apt do the task. Actually, my question is how to either install apt easily on non-Debian linux or get a deb package with all its dependencies without apt installed. |
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| 15:00.08 | amitz | I want to reconnect to internet using an evdo modem but it can't hang up properly thus connect order is ignored by the modem. Disconnecting and connecting the device physically makes it able to receive connect command. How to replicate the behavior of disconnecting the device physically in debian lenny? thanks in advance. |
| 15:00.45 | amitz | btw, #debian comment on my evdo modem probably interfering with my wifi was right, thank you. |
| 15:01.13 | ranix | amitz: you could try unloading the kernel module driver for that modem and reloading, if it uses a module rather than compiled-in drivers |
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| 15:02.30 | amitz | ranix: tried that. it uses usbserial module I have to manually modprobe. doesn't work. I feel like I have to find some way to cut power to that USB port and activate it again.. |
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| 15:03.24 | themill | cichlasoma: this is doomed to failure. If you want to set up a full debian VM or chroot then there are tools to help you with that (e.g. debootstrap). Just unpacking the .deb on some other system isn't going to work at all. |
| 15:03.35 | cichlasoma | themill: Quite simple... I run Slax, have no apt installed. I can convert and install .deb packages, yet I have to care for dependencies myself which is a hell... I want to be able to have downloaded all of them automatically. |
| 15:04.12 | ranix | amitz: you could take a look at the source for the driver to find out why it is fucked |
| 15:04.35 | ranix | amitz: it sounds like a tall order, but it's often possible to see what's wrong |
| 15:04.47 | cichlasoma | themill: be sure I run lot of converted .deb packages in Slax... |
| 15:05.01 | themill | cichlasoma: you'd do better to ask the slax people about getting apt then. And I hope you enjoy having inconsistent versions of shared libraries on your system. |
| 15:05.40 | amitz | ranix: there is no driver, I think. Basically I modprobe usbseial vendor=0xbla device=0xbla |
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| 15:06.17 | amitz | it is as if my AT command for disconnect doesn't work. |
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| 15:07.01 | careta | anyone here uses xscreensaver and knows how to customize the dialog window? |
| 15:07.58 | cichlasoma | themill: "I hope you enjoy having inconsistent versions of shared libraries on your system." Yes, I do, quite. The thing is, with Slax I can take any changes made in the system back easily anytime, so I don't dear anything... :-) |
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| 15:08.25 | hark | careta: put the options in ~/.Xresources |
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| 15:08.30 | cichlasoma | (...Fear anything... sorry... |
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| 15:10.36 | themill | cichlasoma: you'll still do better asking the slax people about getting apt. Or compiling it yourself. But this really has nothing to do with debian... your frankenslax is your problem, not ours. |
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| 15:11.37 | ranix | amitz: I googled a bit but decided I don't know enough about modems to assist. If it were mine, I would make a quick little C program to manually send a hangup to the serial port and see if the modem behaves |
| 15:12.05 | careta | hark, xscreensaver doesn't seem to care about Xdefaults |
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| 15:12.46 | hark | careta: it does, how about you check man xscreensaver and search for xdefaults |
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| 15:13.15 | whammo_ | hey thanks for your time, fellas |
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| 15:13.42 | amitz | ranix: thank you for the effort :-). I have tried experiment using minicom. +++ATH0 doesn't work = modem doesn't response and internet connection is still ongoing. :-(. So now I'm thinking of method to cut power to a USB port temporarily using linux. |
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| 15:14.32 | ranix | amitz: don't forget you need a delay, +++, delay, ATH[!2] |
| 15:14.35 | oblio | hola |
| 15:14.35 | WormFood | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:14.40 | oblio | how do i lock a downgraded package |
| 15:14.46 | oblio | so that apt-get won't try to upgrade it |
| 15:14.46 | ranix | amitz: +++ATH2 shouldn't usually work |
| 15:14.50 | oblio | +++ATH0 |
| 15:14.58 | ranix | ath0 even |
| 15:15.16 | hark | !tell oblio about hold |
| 15:15.35 | hark | oblio: you can pin it too |
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| 15:16.36 | amitz | wait, there is result for connecting usb power. anyway, doing the delay. What's the syntax for delay again? in pppd? |
| 15:16.44 | oblio | thank you hark |
| 15:16.45 | WormFood | beyond the fact that skype is total fuckin' garbage |
| 15:16.55 | ranix | I have no idea |
| 15:17.07 | amitz | ok, let me search. |
| 15:17.13 | oblio | what is the difference btw pin & hold? |
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| 15:17.43 | ranix | !pinning |
| 15:17.44 | dpkg | Pinning is a method to choose which version of a package to install when multiple versions are available from sources.list. man apt_preferences, http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning Bugs are explained at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/debian.html#errata If you use stable, pinning won't help you from messing up the system... use <backports> instead. |
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| 15:17.59 | zuberot | hello, how can i make custom installer cd from debian already installed system ? |
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| 15:20.23 | oblio | ranix: if there is a known bug in lenny and the work around is to downgrade, how would i make apt ignore the now broken dependencies on the packages that rely on it? |
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| 15:21.27 | d_b | WormFood: By audio do you mean your own mic? |
| 15:21.33 | Titan8990_ | !downgrade |
| 15:21.34 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. Also see <partial downgrade>, or <sdn>, or <unstable->testing> |
| 15:21.46 | ranix | oblio: I'm not familiar with any issue that had 'downgrading' as an available workaround |
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| 15:22.02 | ranix | oblio: downgrading is basically not possible. What's your original problem again? |
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| 15:22.41 | NoReflex | I have a question regarding the mounting of USB flash drives. I have a 16 GB Flash Voyager GT and it seems to be mounted with write-back rather than write-through. I read that USB flash drives should be mounted write-through so you won't accidentally remove them while data is still being copied. |
| 15:23.08 | d_b | WormFood: I don't have any problems listening but the mic thing can be a PITA. What I do is to unplug the mic when rebooting and plug it in when everything's started. Otherwise it won't work. And sometimes I need to go to Skype Options -> sound devices -> try different stuff there to make it work. |
| 15:23.10 | ranix | NoReflex: use mount option "sync" |
| 15:23.25 | NoReflex | For example I copied a 8 GB file...and the activity led still flashed a good minute after mc reported it has finished |
| 15:23.40 | d_b | Yeah, Skype sucks, I'm looking forward to using Jingle in XMPP when Squeeze goes stable. |
| 15:23.51 | NoReflex | thank you ranix will look into it. |
| 15:24.26 | Titan8990_ | d_b, i bet we will get google talk for linux |
| 15:24.42 | Titan8990_ | err google voice |
| 15:24.52 | oblio | ranix: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=493045 |
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| 15:25.22 | d_b | Titan8990_: Well Google Voice is XMPP and they invented Jingle, only problem is they don't play well with the other clients... yet! |
| 15:25.34 | oblio | ranix: an open bug, at the very bottom the only solutions have been to either downgrade the package or disable hyperthreading |
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| 15:27.58 | d_b | can't oblio just uninstall the package and manually install an older version of it? or am I missing something? |
| 15:28.11 | oblio | d_b: i did |
| 15:28.14 | oblio | the problem is |
| 15:28.23 | oblio | it doesn't meet the dependencies of other packages |
| 15:28.33 | oblio | namely mysql-client-5.0 |
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| 15:30.28 | themill | oblio: if the package has versioned dependencies, then they are there for a reason, there's no point in trying to force your way around them. |
| 15:30.53 | TrueDD | Howdy |
| 15:31.04 | themill | oblio: if you use taskset to force the process to only use one core, does that solve the problem? |
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| 15:32.54 | ranix | judd: versions php5-mysql |
| 15:32.54 | judd | ranix: php5-mysql -- etch: 5.2.0-8+etch13 etch-security: 5.2.0+dfsg-8+etch15 lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny2 lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny3 sid: 5.2.11.dfsg.1-1 squeeze: 5.2.11.dfsg.1-1 experimental: 5.3.0-2 |
| 15:33.39 | shad0w | hello everyone i have a problem with the following message SIOCSIFFLAGS when i set address with ifconfig to my eth0 |
| 15:33.42 | WormFood | d_b, sorry for the slow response....no, I had problems with mic, but got that working at one time....now I can't get any audio out of it. |
| 15:33.43 | ranix | oblio: is this problem fixed in 5.2.11? You could attempt to backport from sid |
| 15:33.47 | shad0w | i cannot give netmask |
| 15:33.57 | ranix | oblio: it is a thread race condition in php5-mysql |
| 15:34.18 | ranix | oblio: It's way above my ability to find / patch that bug |
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| 15:34.27 | shad0w | (SIOCSIFNETMASK: Cannot assign requested address),this is the whole message |
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| 15:36.14 | careta | is there a way to forbid a package from being installed forever, no matter what version of it? |
| 15:36.18 | ranix | themill: the way I understand this one, it's likely using only one core would cause it to fail less frequently but not actually solve the problem |
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| 15:37.46 | themill | ranix: ah.. I didn't read the bug log in detail (the solution to restrict it to one core implied that it might actually solve the problem completely) |
| 15:38.16 | hark | careta: by pinning |
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| 15:39.21 | hark | careta: but you can still override it if you use dpkg |
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| 15:42.28 | careta | hark, Package: gnome-power-manager Pin: * Pin-Priority: -1 will this work? |
| 15:42.30 | SparFux | Why does this line fail? post-up su - Debian-exim -c /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/exim4 |
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| 15:46.57 | hark | careta: not sure about Pin: * though. the rest looks OK |
| 15:47.19 | careta | hark, yes synaptic was complaining... I change to "release o=Debian" that should cover everything |
| 15:47.49 | hark | careta: you can check using apt-cache policy gnome-power-manager |
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| 15:48.44 | benedikt | im getting really annoyed with my ipod (i will hereby refer to it as "igay"). ipods refuse to play .ogg so i have to convert to .mp3 or some other igay-readable format. I thought rythmbox did it on the fly and I cannot find anything to convert. Tips? |
| 15:49.12 | careta | hark, it appears to be ok, i just installed a package which recommends it and synaptic didn't force me to install it |
| 15:51.31 | d_b | WormFood: Try going into Skype Options -> Sound devices and try every option. That's what I do when I have a problem with Skype :) |
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| 15:51.48 | d_b | benedikt: google rockbox |
| 15:52.01 | WormFood | I tried that...will try again |
| 15:52.10 | WormFood | newest version of skype supports pulseaudio |
| 15:52.16 | benedikt | d_b: thanks |
| 15:52.38 | d_b | benedikt: you shouldn't convert between lossy formats. |
| 15:53.09 | benedikt | d_b: tell that to steve jobs. its not my fault. ui just want to go to the store and listen to the smiths while walking. |
| 15:53.38 | benedikt | hm. isnt in aptitude and no .deb. ill have to compile. |
| 15:54.05 | d_b | That's why you have your music as flac so you can convert to whatever format you need at the moment. And yeah don't get me started, I have an ipod too and if I see Steve Jobs he better run. Rockbox is alternative firmware for your ipod. |
| 15:54.50 | WormFood | I have an ipod, but I never use |
| 15:54.52 | benedikt | i should then read before downloading. So it replaces my ipods firmware and then plays .ogg? |
| 15:55.02 | WormFood | my ipod is 1 gig, and my phone is 8 gig...no brainer there |
| 15:55.15 | benedikt | WormFood: my phone doesnt have a minijack. |
| 15:55.25 | WormFood | mine does :D |
| 15:55.29 | WormFood | I have a nokia N85 |
| 15:55.31 | benedikt | lucky bastards. |
| 15:55.34 | benedikt | -s |
| 15:55.36 | WormFood | it has a normal plug |
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| 15:55.38 | benedikt | i have a nokia e51 |
| 15:55.45 | d_b | WormFood: make sure to read the documentation and see what works or doesn't work for your particular ipod. |
| 15:55.46 | benedikt | it has a gay-plug (tm) |
| 15:55.49 | WormFood | plug in anything I want to it |
| 15:55.56 | WormFood | I agree benedikt |
| 15:56.05 | benedikt | d_b: i guess you wanted to tell taht to me |
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| 15:56.13 | d_b | Yes I did :) |
| 15:56.16 | J_P | hi all |
| 15:56.42 | benedikt | d_b: just to be clear, this would replace my ipods firmware? |
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| 15:57.22 | d_b | benedikt: no, it doesn't replace it. It exists alongside with it. You can remove it if you don't like it and your ipod goes back to the way it was before. And you can also access the old firmware while having Rockbox installed. |
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| 15:57.45 | benedikt | ok, cool.:) |
| 15:58.08 | cr3rzemjest | is it possible to do dist-upgrade in parts? |
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| 15:59.08 | cr3rzemjest | also, is it possible to upgrade only those packages that i need? because when i look at the list of packages it wants to update open office stuff etc, while i don't even use open office |
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| 15:59.52 | wols | I need to connect to a debian box (remote admin, gui and text) which is behind a NAT router which is not under my control.what options are there? |
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| 16:00.31 | aibo | how can I determine to which package belongs some file? |
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| 16:00.51 | WormFood | you mean what file belongs to what package? |
| 16:01.06 | abrotman | wols: ssh tunnel? |
| 16:01.38 | wols | with the client making the tunnel behind the nat? will I be able to use it "in reverse"? |
| 16:01.45 | joeytwiddle | aibo: equery belongs |
| 16:01.54 | aibo | WormFood, for example is there any way to determine that /etc/vsftpd.conf belongs to vsftpd |
| 16:02.07 | wols | I already tried openvpn. I can ping the openvpn server from behind nat it sees, but I can't ping the client from the server :( |
| 16:02.13 | aibo | joeytwiddle, its gentoo way :D |
| 16:02.21 | joeytwiddle | whoops |
| 16:02.35 | abrotman | wols: ssh -R perhaps ? |
| 16:02.41 | mattgirv | cr3rzemjest: Hm, if you hit = on the package within aptitude you can put it on hold from updating, or through dpkg |
| 16:02.44 | joeytwiddle | aibo: dpkg -S |
| 16:02.45 | wols | aibo: no, cause vsftpd.conf is a config file which is created on package installation :/ |
| 16:02.55 | abrotman | or os this something you don't want the client to interact with at all ? |
| 16:03.01 | ranix | wols: ssh -nNT -R 1100:local.mydomain.com:1100 remote.mydomain.com |
| 16:03.02 | EagleScreen | you can search in http://packages.debian.org by file inside the package |
| 16:03.04 | wols | abrotman: guess all I can do is to try |
| 16:03.08 | joeytwiddle | mm yes it won't catch files that weren't originally in the package |
| 16:03.13 | J_P | Hey, I plug a usb to video adapter like this http://img.alibaba.com/photo/247149854/EasyCAP_USB_2_0_Video_Adapter.jpg ls usb show "Bus 001 Device 002: ID 05e1:0408 Syntek Semiconductor Co., Ltd " and i download driver stk11xx-2.1.0.tar.gz and compile and after "modprobe videodev; insmod stk11xx.ko" and dmesg show: "[ 415.155961] Linux video capture interface: v2.00; [ 424.022369] stk11xx: Syntek USB2.0 webcam driver startup; [ 424.022406] usbcore: registered ne |
| 16:03.20 | mattgirv | cr3rzemjest: Bear in mind putting it on hold within aptitude definitely won't affect apt-get/synaptic so it'll still want to try and update it there. dpkg 'should' stop it updating within all of those but someone else can probably confirm |
| 16:03.39 | mattgirv | cr3rzemjest: If you don't use OpenOffice though, you may as well just uninstall it :p |
| 16:03.41 | J_P | I did try this MAKEDEV but show error: root@c30:/dev# MAKEDEV video0 |
| 16:03.41 | J_P | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.42 | Meths | aibo: http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=vsftpd.conf&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any |
| 16:03.56 | cr3rzemjest | mattgirv: :| |
| 16:04.07 | Meths | aibo: packages.debian.org will search for packages and files in packages for any version of debian |
| 16:04.11 | cr3rzemjest | i may as well remove debian and install winXP |
| 16:04.15 | aibo | joeytwiddle, thx |
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| 16:04.30 | mattgirv | cr3rzemjest: Eh? Well put it on hold with dpkg then |
| 16:04.32 | ranix | dondelelcaro: dpkg is having trouble with queries that begin with the word 'reverse' |
| 16:04.38 | oblio | themill, ranix: thank you for your input |
| 16:04.52 | mattgirv | cr3rzemjest: echo "package-name hold"|dpkg --set-selections |
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| 16:05.37 | benedikt | d_b: this seems nice. im putting it on the ipod now (used the manual way) |
| 16:05.53 | J_P | Anyone with MAKEDEV experience to help me? |
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| 16:06.12 | wols | J_P: you cannot use makedev anymore. not with udev |
| 16:06.31 | valdyn | J_P: you dont need MAKEDEV |
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| 16:07.58 | wols | cr3rzemjest: don't let apt install suggested packages. possibly not even recommended ones |
| 16:08.09 | J_P | wols: and valdyn I see taht about in 2.6 use udev. I did a rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/ but not works.. |
| 16:08.14 | aibo | Meths, thx |
| 16:08.18 | mattgirv | cr3rzemjest: My point really was that if you are doing a dist-upgrade.. and you want to avoid updating openoffice you may as well uninstall it. If you want to keep it and possibly use it I'd recommend not holding it, I only ever hold an update back if I know there is some fundamental bug that prevents it from working properly/stable. |
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| 16:08.29 | valdyn | J_P: why would you need to add a rule? |
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| 16:08.50 | d_b | benedikt: is there a reason you don't use the installer? It's very easy to use. |
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| 16:09.29 | valdyn | J_P: i do not see your loaded driver working at all |
| 16:09.41 | valdyn | J_P: maybe you did not paste that part, maybe it got cut off |
| 16:09.53 | J_P | valdyn: i will past dmesg |
| 16:10.10 | benedikt | d_b: it didnt have a configure or a make scrpt.. it didnt find it, looked for 2 seconds, saw the word "manual" and went nuts. |
| 16:10.10 | cr3rzemjest | is it possible to the opposite? (open office was only an example) can i update kde, kde-related things, and some REALLY important packages withought installing anything else? (don't tell me about kde backports) |
| 16:10.29 | valdyn | cr3rzemjest: you cant |
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| 16:11.15 | cr3rzemjest | so i have to manually set 25435425 packages to "hold" |
| 16:11.26 | valdyn | cr3rzemjest: no, that wouldnt work either |
| 16:11.44 | benedikt | d_b: i thought it would ask when it booted what firmware i wanted to load? |
| 16:11.51 | wols | cr3rzemjest: no. you stop dist upgrading. or take a serious look why you have so much shit installed you don't use and don't want to upgrade |
| 16:12.09 | J_P | valdyn: http://dpaste.com/119200/ |
| 16:12.22 | valdyn | cr3rzemjest: you are trying to do some nonsense ( yes thats what it is ). If you want to not use backports then your only sane choice is to use an installation method that does not use your package management |
| 16:12.22 | wols | cr3rzemjest: you can. you do a apt-get install kde and the lates kde will be installed with all its dependencies, but only those dependencies |
| 16:12.38 | wols | e.g. then (usually) openoffice doesn't get dragged into the upgrading |
| 16:12.39 | cr3rzemjest | now i'm really confused and frustrated |
| 16:12.43 | J_P | valdyn: and lsusb: http://dpaste.com/119201/ |
| 16:12.55 | cr3rzemjest | unecessary shit is being installed automatically |
| 16:13.03 | valdyn | J_P: thats not useful |
| 16:13.20 | ranix | cr3rzemjest: you probably selected a load of crap in tasksel when you installed your system |
| 16:13.21 | J_P | valdyn: so what you need? |
| 16:13.22 | valdyn | J_P: that just tells us that the device is plugged in, nothing else, we knew already |
| 16:13.30 | ranix | cr3rzemjest: like "desktop system" and stuff |
| 16:13.37 | valdyn | J_P: just that dmesg stuff |
| 16:13.43 | ranix | cr3rzemjest: best practice is to not install that stuff |
| 16:13.51 | ranix | and use only what you need |
| 16:14.00 | J_P | valdyn: sorry, what i need to do? |
| 16:14.11 | valdyn | J_P: i see the driver is loaded in dmesg, but its not registered with the hardware |
| 16:14.16 | mattgirv | cr3rzemjest: The point is you theoretically could do what you want, (only update a small subset of packages) but so many are interlinked you are going to dig a hole for yourself. Is there a particular reason you don't want to update all of your packages? |
| 16:14.29 | wols | cr3rzemjest: learn about recommended and suggested apt dependencies |
| 16:14.32 | craigevil | cr3rzemjest: edit your /etc/apt/apt.conf and add APT::Install-Recommends "0"; APT::Install-Suggests "0"; |
| 16:14.48 | J_P | valdyn: what's mean "but its not registered with the hardware" ? |
| 16:14.48 | mesaGL | cr3rzemjest: do you suffer from anxiety attacks and neuroses ? cos it doesn't matter one *iota* if unneeded stuff is installed, provided it doesn't interfere |
| 16:14.55 | cr3rzemjest | craigevil: then what |
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| 16:15.00 | ranix | I recommend leaving install-recommends alone |
| 16:15.15 | infernix | is there an easy way to produce a list of packages that shows the space they take up on my disk? |
| 16:15.28 | valdyn | J_P: maybe it doesnt support your hardware |
| 16:15.36 | ranix | if he's asking questions like that he's going to come back frothing at the mouth when installing alsa doesn't also install alsa-utils or something similar |
| 16:15.37 | valdyn | J_P: maybe insmod shouldnt be use for a few years already |
| 16:15.38 | cr3rzemjest | mesaGL: what's 'iota' |
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| 16:15.49 | craigevil | cr3rzemjest: that keeps stupid recommends/suggests from being autoinstalled |
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| 16:16.08 | mesaGL | infernix: not that easy. but du -s /usr may be fairly close |
| 16:16.08 | J_P | valdyn: how/where you see that this dirver (that was loaded) not support this hardware? |
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| 16:16.18 | cr3rzemjest | i should probably have done that just after i've installed debian, now it's too late :P |
| 16:16.25 | wols | ranix: yes. but then maybe he finally acts on his threat and goes back to windows. we can always hope, can't we? |
| 16:16.34 | ranix | no reason to be hostile |
| 16:16.48 | craigevil | cr3rzemjest: you might want to use debfoster and get rid of crap you do not need/use |
| 16:16.50 | ranix | cr3rzemjest: you can also reinstall without formatting your /home/ partition |
| 16:17.04 | mesaGL | cr3rzemjest: iota is a greek letter, that often means "very small amount", in colloquial usage. same as "jot" |
| 16:17.19 | mattgirv | ranix: Thats presuming he partitioned it seperately |
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| 16:17.59 | J_P | valdyn: still around? |
| 16:18.43 | valdyn | J_P: go to /sys/bus/usb/devices/<your id> |
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| 16:19.15 | ranix | mesaGL: hey ++ on your etymology skillz |
| 16:19.24 | ranix | mesaGL: I did not know jot was related to iota |
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| 16:20.21 | mesaGL | ranix: there is no "j" in latin or greek, hence the near-equivalence |
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| 16:20.56 | ranix | I thought it was imported from a scandinavian or germanic language |
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| 16:21.37 | cahoot | thinking of jötapetter? |
| 16:21.54 | mattgirv | cahoot: What does that mean? |
| 16:22.00 | cr3rzemjest | debfoster looks clever, but i suspect it will remove half of my system.... no but wait, "kde is keeping the following 350 packages installed:" but wtf??? kiten(for learning japanese), kmines, kmouth(text2speech) are among these packages |
| 16:22.01 | J_P | valdyn: http://dpaste.com/119203/ what is my ID? |
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| 16:22.11 | benedikt | d_b: im playing .ogg on my ipod. Thanks! |
| 16:22.16 | themill | dpkg: tell cr3rzemjest about metpackage |
| 16:22.28 | cahoot | mattgirv: nothing - it's misspelled exclamation from a childrens book |
| 16:22.35 | themill | swears at dpkg |
| 16:22.39 | cr3rzemjest | didn't tell |
| 16:22.39 | J_P | valdyn: I think you did DEVICE right |
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| 16:22.44 | mattgirv | cahoot: Oh right :D Fair enough then,# |
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| 16:22.52 | valdyn | J_P: 1-4:1.0 i think |
| 16:23.58 | themill | cr3rzemjest: /msg dpkg metapackage |
| 16:24.15 | J_P | valdyn: ok, I'm there http://dpaste.com/119205/ What I need to find/see? |
| 16:25.21 | valdyn | J_P: cd ./driver/module/driver ; ls should list the driver |
| 16:25.28 | valdyn | J_P: but i might have gotten the wrong device id |
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| 16:26.29 | J_P | valdyn: I think that you told me correct ID, look: http://dpaste.com/119207/ |
| 16:27.02 | J_P | valdyn: look PRODUCT=5e1/408/5 |
| 16:27.12 | valdyn | J_P: yea |
| 16:27.34 | J_P | valdyn: but don't have ./driver dir in root@c30:/sys/bus/usb/devices/1-4:1.0/ |
| 16:28.01 | valdyn | J_P: so no driver attached |
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| 16:28.30 | valdyn | valdyn@master:/sys/bus/usb/devices/6-1:1.0/driver/module/drivers$ ls |
| 16:28.32 | valdyn | usb:snd-usb-audio |
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| 16:28.55 | nan8 | someone is playling games with my /etc/hosts in squeeze - i guess it is network-manager but maybe it is avahi, result is that new x client can't connect to the x server anymore - anybody else seen this? is there already a bug report? |
| 16:29.01 | J_P | valdyn: ok, so that driver was loades, but not is for this hardware |
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| 16:29.03 | nan8 | ~s/playling/playing |
| 16:29.15 | valdyn | J_P: not registered for that hardware |
| 16:29.30 | J_P | valdyn: not registered mean not supported right? |
| 16:29.33 | valdyn | J_P: which may be because it doesnt support that hardware or something else, i dont know |
| 16:29.37 | J_P | valdyn: is the same or not? |
| 16:29.50 | J_P | valdyn: ok |
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| 16:33.03 | \amethyst | that will always run other-commands |
| 16:33.05 | \amethyst | doh |
| 16:33.19 | J_P | valdyn: ahh but have root@c30:/sys/bus/usb/devices/1-4:1.0/subsystem/drivers# |
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| 16:34.13 | J_P | valdyn: look http://dpaste.com/119212/ |
| 16:34.39 | valdyn | J_P: your driver did register with the usb subsystem, thats all |
| 16:34.47 | valdyn | J_P: doesnt mean it found and registered the device |
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| 16:35.06 | J_P | valdyn: :-( |
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| 16:35.52 | valdyn | nan8: none of these programs edit /etc/hosts |
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| 16:36.27 | nan8 | valdyn: well /etc/hosts is changed after the network comes up again (after gdm login) - maybe dhcp? |
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| 16:37.13 | nan8 | valdyn: the hostname is changed |
| 16:37.48 | Kraftzwerk | what would be the easiest way to temporarily restrict traffic on a machine to local IPs (192.168.*) ? |
| 16:37.51 | J_P | valdyn: so stk11xx-2.1.0.tar.gz is not the correct dirver to easycap |
| 16:39.25 | nan8 | valdyn: as my setup is quite standard this really should happen to all current squeeze users, using default debian setup including gnome / network manager / avahi |
| 16:39.40 | nan8 | valdyn: started maybe 2 weeks ago |
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| 16:40.08 | nan8 | valdyn: i just want to help and file a bug report against the right package |
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| 16:41.29 | g00se | cahoot: Yes, it's in alsamixer, on max, but i don't know how to address it with aplay |
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| 16:44.29 | valdyn | J_P: i cant know |
| 16:44.43 | valdyn | J_P: your instalation instructions are bad probably |
| 16:45.07 | valdyn | J_P: in (modern) linux you would install a driver properly, then *not* load it manually but just plug in the device. |
| 16:45.21 | valdyn | J_P: everything else happens automagically |
| 16:45.40 | J_P | valdyn: http://dpaste.com/119217/ |
| 16:45.47 | cahoot | g00se: seems to be card1 from alsas POW |
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| 16:45.51 | valdyn | J_P: its typical that vendors ship bad drivers and crap |
| 16:46.20 | Kyrterz2 | hi is there anyway to upgrade my lighttpd using apt-get install lighttpd? seems i'm getting old version |
| 16:46.20 | J_P | valdyn: I just doing make -f Makefile.standalone; modprobe videodev; insmod stk11xx.ko |
| 16:46.23 | mattgirv | J_P: Oh god 'This driver can do damages' |
| 16:46.51 | valdyn | o increase the support, I need some help... Or somebody gives me the webcam ! |
| 16:47.24 | valdyn | J_P: i dont see your thing listed in that text |
| 16:47.45 | valdyn | J_P: normally you can find the pci ids listed in the source code |
| 16:47.53 | J_P | valdyn: line 57, 126 and 127 |
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| 16:48.36 | valdyn | J_P: read the source, find the pci ids |
| 16:48.41 | nan8 | valdyn: the problem in the end seems to be that the hostname is changed and the x mit magic cookie is then invalid, i can manually add a cookie with the new name and then x clients can connect again |
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| 16:49.11 | J_P | valdyn: ahhok, I will try to find it |
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| 16:50.40 | g00se | cahoot: Thanks, so i'd say aplay -D card1 x.wav ? |
| 16:51.19 | ponky | Hello, i'm trying to partition my new 1tb drive with debian GUI installer, it asks for Partition table to use, which one should I pick? |
| 16:51.25 | ponky | Theres stuff like amiga, aix, bsd |
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| 16:51.55 | mattgirv | Hm is it 83? Linux Partition |
| 16:52.16 | ponky | They're not numbered |
| 16:52.27 | mattgirv | ponky: Well its Linux Partition you want |
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| 16:52.29 | ponky | Whole list: aix, amiga, bsd, dvh, gpt, mac, msdos, pc98, sun, loop |
| 16:52.36 | valdyn | ponky: msdos |
| 16:52.41 | ponky | Thx :) |
| 16:52.43 | mattgirv | cahoot: What does that mean?ohh |
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| 16:52.56 | mattgirv | errgh, damn scroll, ignore |
| 16:53.40 | ponky | Can grub boot from raid5 nowadays? |
| 16:53.45 | valdyn | ponky: its asking for the "partition table type", not for the partition type |
| 16:53.48 | nan8 | valdyn: it seems this is an old problem (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/276253) |
| 16:53.51 | valdyn | ponky: no |
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| 16:55.09 | ponky | Well, if I use 4 drives in raid5, where should I put /boot then |
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| 16:55.35 | cahoot | g00se: not really sure how to direct speaker-test to card1 - possibly speaker-test -Dhw:1 |
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| 16:55.43 | JordiGH | I've got /etc/network/interfaces without any mention of dhcp, and I've stopped Gnome's network-manager daemon, but I'm still regularly fetching (an incorrect) IP from DHCP. I've also stopped dhcpd, could that have been the reason? |
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| 16:56.32 | mattgirv | g00se: speaker-test , tells you here on the alsa-docs how to route to different cards http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Speaker-test |
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| 16:57.28 | JordiGH | Sorry, stopped dhcdbd |
| 16:57.55 | nan8 | JordiGH: what ip is it? |
| 16:57.57 | fred | Hi; we've got several servers running lenny, using the bnx2 network chipset - we need a newer version of the driver than that included in lenny - what would be a good way to package/deploy this? |
| 16:58.01 | nan8 | JordiGH: maybe avahi? |
| 16:58.04 | JordiGH | nan8: The wrong one. |
| 16:58.18 | JordiGH | nan8: I set the right one with a static thingie in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:58.32 | nan8 | JordiGH: something like 169.254.x.x ? |
| 16:58.53 | JordiGH | nan8: Non-routable, yes. |
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| 16:59.04 | JordiGH | I mean, no, non-routable. |
| 16:59.08 | JordiGH | 192.168 |
| 16:59.19 | J_P | valdyn: http://dpaste.com/119222/ |
| 16:59.59 | nan8 | JordiGH: use tcpdump/wireshark/tshark and watch out for dhcp packets |
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| 17:00.19 | nan8 | JordiGH: otherwise i would have guessed some ip auto-config s... caused by avahi |
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| 17:02.25 | JordiGH | sees avahi running, probably doesn't want to stop it. |
| 17:02.52 | meuserj | any idea what could cause this: http://pastebin.com/m1b53616c |
| 17:03.16 | meuserj | host resolutions works for ping, dig, nslookup, but not for apt or wget... |
| 17:03.23 | JordiGH | meuserj: Proxies? |
| 17:03.26 | Seb | hi fellows |
| 17:03.38 | meuserj | JordiGH: no proxies involved |
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| 17:03.52 | JordiGH | meuserj: Are you sure? |
| 17:04.01 | meuserj | JordiGH: 100% positive |
| 17:04.05 | JordiGH | meuserj: env | grep -i proxy |
| 17:04.10 | jillsmitt | hi everybody |
| 17:04.24 | meuserj | JordiGH: null output |
| 17:04.32 | nan8 | valdyn: it is network-manager playing games with /etc/hosts - [pid 3362] rename("/etc/hosts.VVS62U", "/etc/hosts") = 0 |
| 17:04.36 | axe | meuserj, paste your resolv.conf |
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| 17:04.47 | Seb | i have squeeze and sid in my sources.list, no pinning in /etc/apt/preferences, and not /etc/apt/preferences.d; yet apt-cache policy <pkg> show the candidate to be in squeeze and not sid, for every <pkg> available (squeeze's priority is 990, and sid's is 500). Where is it getting the pinnings from ? |
| 17:04.49 | nan8 | valdyn: where pid 3362 is network-manager |
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| 17:05.02 | Seb | i must be missing something obvious, but I'm not sure what :) |
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| 17:05.32 | jillsmitt | after installation of xorg and openbox how to made openbox starts with "startx"? |
| 17:05.33 | adamos | Does anyone know if there is any .deb or repository with Darwin streaming server 6.0.3 for lenny? |
| 17:05.52 | jillsmitt | i mean if i type startx i want to start openbox automaticaly |
| 17:05.53 | meuserj | axe: appended to original pastebin |
| 17:09.01 | axe | jillsmitt, http://wiki.debian.org/Openbox#RunningOpenbox |
| 17:09.33 | jillsmitt | axe: w3m again =) |
| 17:10.40 | J_P | valdyn: see, that ID is not in the link :( |
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| 17:11.49 | anewbie | hello there guys :) |
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| 17:12.18 | anewbie | i have setup an iptables gateway/router |
| 17:12.25 | anewbie | but now i need a second block of ip-s |
| 17:12.33 | anewbie | now i use 192.168.1.0/24 |
| 17:12.40 | anewbie | i need 192.168.0.0/24 |
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| 17:13.34 | anewbie | i define the LAN range with LAN_IP_RANGE="192.168.1.0/24" may i make it LAN_IP_RANGE="192.168.1.0/24, 192.168.0.0/24" for example |
| 17:13.35 | anewbie | ? |
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| 17:14.51 | J_P | valdyn: so don't have driver for linux for ID 05e1:0408 Syntek Semiconductor Co., Ltd :-( |
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| 17:16.15 | simNIX | anewbie, maybe #netfilter would be a better place to ask since your question s more iptables then Debian specific ... |
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| 17:16.26 | Stylles | Someone already configured bacula ? |
| 17:16.26 | anewbie | yeah thx |
| 17:16.27 | anewbie | sorry |
| 17:16.29 | simNIX | s=is |
| 17:16.32 | simNIX | np |
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| 17:17.32 | krion | Stylles: you really want bacula ? |
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| 17:17.43 | krion | Stylles: i think you should consider backuppc |
| 17:17.49 | krion | Stylles: very neat for end user |
| 17:17.51 | simNIX | secods that |
| 17:18.11 | krion | come with a web front end with all features |
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| 17:18.32 | RichiH | is something wrong with the weekly testing builds? |
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| 17:20.00 | abrotman | RichiH: get a daily netinst |
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| 17:20.37 | abrotman | RichiH: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/ .. for example |
| 17:20.42 | anewbie | anewbie> this is iptables specific |
| 17:20.42 | anewbie | <d_sph> Why? This is a distro problem |
| 17:20.44 | anewbie | hah see that |
| 17:20.45 | anewbie | ... |
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| 17:20.58 | drksoft | hi |
| 17:21.10 | anewbie | this guy is not on his place i think |
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| 17:22.44 | drksoft | can anyone help me, i updated to squeeze, now my sound isnt working |
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| 17:23.40 | cahoot | drksoft: test sound with speaker-test -t wav -c2 - any error msg? |
| 17:23.56 | drksoft | hold on |
| 17:25.33 | drksoft | i get this when i run alsactl init |
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| 17:25.56 | drksoft | # alsactl init |
| 17:25.56 | drksoft | Unknown hardware: "HDA-Intel" "SigmaTel STAC9228" "HDA:14f12c06,14f1000f,00100000 HDA:10951392,1028022f,00100000 HDA:83847616,1028022f,00100201" "0x1028" "0x022f" |
| 17:25.56 | drksoft | Hardware is initialized using a guess method |
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| 17:26.35 | janimati | ia have one question, debian squeeze have a disc partitions EXT4 |
| 17:26.49 | drksoft | and i get sound when i run the speaker-test :/ |
| 17:26.55 | cahoot | drksoft: and if you run alsa force-reload? |
| 17:27.03 | cahoot | err |
| 17:27.11 | cahoot | so sound actualy is ok? |
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| 17:28.44 | drksoft | hmm |
| 17:28.53 | drksoft | well i can hear the speaker test :/ |
| 17:29.04 | cahoot | then alsa is ok |
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| 17:30.20 | drksoft | why am i getting that error then |
| 17:30.45 | cahoot | seems more like a warning/info to me |
| 17:30.48 | mattgirv | drksoft: Have you set up your .asoundrc /etc/asound.state files? |
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| 17:31.07 | mattgirv | drksoft: And does your card show properly with channel levels when you use alsamixer? |
| 17:31.10 | Ori_B | Hi. |
| 17:31.20 | Ori_B | after A recent upgrade, I've got a bit of a problem with my init scripts |
| 17:31.36 | drksoft | it was working fine before i upgraded to squeeze |
| 17:31.40 | Ori_B | updating claims "There is a loop between service mdadm and mountall if started" |
| 17:31.46 | cahoot | drksoft: maybe update-pciids will eliminate the msg |
| 17:31.47 | Ori_B | I'm on unstable. |
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| 17:32.07 | drksoft | and no i havent set asound.state |
| 17:32.18 | Mac101 | hi im tryin to use rsa keys and disable root & password login but i messed up somewhere heres my sshd_config http://fpaste.org/udLL/ |
| 17:32.22 | cahoot | drksoft: according to speaker-test you do have working sound -no= |
| 17:32.29 | Mac101 | anything wrong with it -.@ |
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| 17:32.58 | drksoft | cahoot, yes |
| 17:33.12 | cahoot | drksoft: so what's the problem? |
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| 17:33.33 | drksoft | i only get sound when running the speaker-test |
| 17:33.47 | zu22 | hey, just did fresy lenny install and gnome has the top panel but not the bottom one! how can i add the bottom panel (which shows minimized windows, virtual screens, etc.)?? |
| 17:33.57 | zu22 | s/fresy/fresh |
| 17:34.05 | Ori_B | anyone have any suggestions on how I resolve this dependency loop? |
| 17:34.06 | cahoot | drksoft: make sure your apps output to alsa |
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| 17:34.36 | zu22 | in past gnome in debian always showed both top and bottom panels by default so this is a bit vexing |
| 17:34.48 | zu22 | any ideas? |
| 17:35.21 | Ori_B | zu22: you right click, press "add panel", then add the appropriate plugins. |
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| 17:35.47 | drksoft | ok |
| 17:36.16 | zu22 | Ori_B: lots of plugins in there, any idea what the plugin i want is called? |
| 17:36.29 | zu22 | i don't see any "bottom panel" plugin |
| 17:36.50 | Ori_B | start by creating a new panel. |
| 17:36.56 | Ori_B | then add the tasklist and whatnot plugins to it. |
| 17:37.03 | drksoft | cahoot, i ran update-pciids and i still get the same error ;/ |
| 17:37.03 | hark | zu22: try gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel |
| 17:38.04 | hark | drksoft: ignore it. it shouldn't affect anything |
| 17:38.16 | Ori_B | anyways, a pastebin of the error I'm getting is here: |
| 17:38.18 | Ori_B | http://pastebin.com/m7ace26a9 |
| 17:38.23 | Ori_B | not sure how to resolve it |
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| 17:41.02 | g00se | mattgirv: Thanks |
| 17:41.07 | g00se | cahoot: Thanks |
| 17:41.14 | datacrusher | hi everyone, o got a debian web server, but my site just goes up if i set its folders to 777, isnt it insecure? how do i fix this? |
| 17:41.25 | datacrusher | its folder i mean /var/www/site |
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| 17:42.49 | dkr | datacrusher: the document root only needs to be readable by the user the web server runs as |
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| 17:44.30 | Mac101 | anyone know howto get debian to reload iptables rules on reboot? |
| 17:44.51 | Mac101 | tried the /etc/network/if-up thing didnt work for me :/ |
| 17:45.21 | datacrusher | hmm dkr nice.. is there a way to check what user called the proccess? is it the apache service? |
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| 17:46.09 | dkr | datacrusher: the user is www-data, but it's probably simplest to make it world readable (if you are sharing these files with world doesn't matter if all users on machine can read them, :) |
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| 17:47.07 | dkr | datacrusher: the point is you don't need to use 777 which is world *wriatbale8 as well as readable. find /var/www/site -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \; && find /var/www/site -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \; |
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| 17:48.08 | simonrvn | Mac101: iptables-save and -restore - also see iptables-persistent |
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| 17:48.33 | dkr | would be nice if chmod had options to only work on dirs or only on files |
| 17:48.34 | J_P | valdyn: hey.. now I install driver from svn that have suport to this device and driver was registered. look: http://dpaste.com/119246/ |
| 17:49.10 | ranix | dkr: haha yeah then I would stop doing chmod on .* to hit the .config files |
| 17:49.17 | ranix | dkr: and catching .. in it |
| 17:49.20 | simonrvn | dkr: yes it would. i find find/xargs for that |
| 17:49.35 | simonrvn | i use find* |
| 17:49.40 | ranix | simonrvn: every time I use xargs abrotman and themill cringe and yell at me |
| 17:49.45 | amitz | how to check if i use libc6-i686 instead of libc6? |
| 17:49.46 | J_P | valdyn: but /dev/video0 was not created! |
| 17:49.50 | dkr | ranix: I use .??* :) |
| 17:49.54 | Mac101 | simonrvn thx |
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| 17:51.06 | simonrvn | ranix: see if i car if they yell at me and cringe. i think using -exec is more resource hungry than using xargs |
| 17:51.09 | simonrvn | care* |
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| 17:51.25 | themill | what am I supposed to be cringing at? |
| 17:53.04 | meuserj | So.. no ideas Re: http://pastebin.com/m55ab911e ? |
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| 17:53.34 | Mac101 | hmm ive been using debian a few weeks now and never seem to get any update when i do 'apt-get update' ? |
| 17:53.52 | simonrvn | -exec spawns 1 proc per action, and xargs spawns 1 proc when the command's argv has reached its maximum, which could be a lot less if you have a lot of files/dirs |
| 17:54.07 | simonrvn | !sources.list |
| 17:54.07 | TeXnicer | Mac101, update refreshes the list |
| 17:54.08 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 17:54.10 | Titan8990_ | Mac101, should have been a kernel upgrade a few days ago |
| 17:54.15 | TeXnicer | do apt-get upGRADE |
| 17:54.20 | Mac101 | is my sources.list ok? http://fpaste.org/PHTx/ |
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| 17:54.30 | Mac101 | oh lol is it upgrade? |
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| 17:54.35 | Mac101 | tries |
| 17:54.36 | Titan8990_ | Mac101, yes |
| 17:54.36 | TeXnicer | apt-get upgrade |
| 17:54.47 | Titan8990_ | TeXnicer, aptitude is preferred |
| 17:54.51 | _SKiTZO | is there a boot image for debian that has support for iscsi? |
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| 17:55.04 | Mac101 | ah there we go |
| 17:55.07 | simonrvn | that's fine, but yeh use aptitude |
| 17:55.15 | Titan8990_ | Mac101, update == refresh package lists ; upgrade == upgrade w/ new packages |
| 17:55.27 | TeXnicer | Titan8990 apt-get is prefered, but TeXnicer is curious about your argument. |
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| 17:55.38 | Titan8990_ | !why aptitude |
| 17:55.39 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often be able to come up with a solution where apt-get just gives up. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). It can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line or at the Y/n/q/? prompt using its interactive resolver, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
| 17:55.45 | simonrvn | meuserj: /me thinks you have fubar /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 17:55.49 | TeXnicer | !why apt-get |
| 17:56.03 | abrotman | ranix: i do not |
| 17:56.25 | TeXnicer | Titan8990 does it have super-cow-powers? |
| 17:56.27 | simonrvn | ranix: i think you're thinking of greycat, personally |
| 17:56.37 | simonrvn | TeXnicer: no |
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| 17:56.43 | _SKiTZO | only gentoo has super cow powers |
| 17:56.49 | Titan8990_ | TeXnicer, aptitude is typically recommend over apt-get in scenarios where it can, however there are features that aptitude lacks such as `apt-cache policy` and `apt-get source` |
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| 17:57.07 | TeXnicer | Titan8990 I see |
| 17:57.15 | asarch | How can I close a DVD? |
| 17:57.23 | asarch | :-[ CLOSE DISC failed with SK=5h/CANNOT WRITE MEDIUM - INCOMPATIBLE FORMAT]: Wrong medium type |
| 17:57.33 | datacrusher | thanks dkr |
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| 17:57.43 | Ori_B | so... uh. anyone have an idea of how I should go about resolving my boot script dependency loop? |
| 17:57.43 | Titan8990_ | asarch, using what to burn |
| 17:57.46 | TeXnicer | Titan8990 apt-<tab> is only 5 chars, aptitude is 8 chars |
| 17:57.49 | asarch | growisofs |
| 17:57.58 | asarch | growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/sr0=/home/asarch/brasero.iso |
| 17:58.11 | Titan8990_ | TeXnicer, apti<tab> |
| 17:58.20 | Titan8990_ | TeXnicer, same # of keystokes |
| 17:58.37 | TeXnicer | Titan8990 you totally ruin my argument =P |
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| 17:58.49 | Titan8990_ | TeXnicer, hehe :P |
| 17:58.58 | TeXnicer | i hate you i hate you... what about I am USED to type "-"? Hum? |
| 17:58.58 | themill | simonrvn: I ususally use xargs too, but there is also the "-exec command {} +" form which does the same thing as xargs. |
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| 17:59.11 | d_b | I know you shouldn't do stuff as root unless necessary, but is it a bad idea to have a terminal window logged in as root? |
| 17:59.31 | simonrvn | themill: ooh. one less process. |
| 17:59.32 | themill | ranix: if you use -print0 and -0 etc with xargs then people don't complain :) |
| 17:59.39 | Mac101 | hmm apt-cache search iptables-persistent doesnt seem to find anything? |
| 17:59.48 | simonrvn | nice one |
| 17:59.49 | themill | simonrvn: heh |
| 17:59.58 | TeXnicer | d_b, no how would you do things as root if not? |
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| 18:00.10 | TeXnicer | Mac101, apt-cache search iptables? |
| 18:00.17 | TeXnicer | Well I learned about using |
| 18:00.20 | TeXnicer | man aptitude |
| 18:00.25 | Titan8990_ | d_b, i wouldn't walk away from your desk with a root shell open... |
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| 18:00.33 | TeXnicer | then "/search" |
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| 18:00.53 | TeXnicer | Titan8990 yeah first thing I would do... #passwd root |
| 18:01.09 | Titan8990_ | TeXnicer, uhh, on which version of debian? |
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| 18:01.27 | simonrvn | (he's thinking ubuntu ;) |
| 18:01.31 | Mac101 | TeXnicer nothing :( |
| 18:01.32 | Titan8990_ | I know... |
| 18:01.44 | d_b | TeXnicer: I mean keeping it on the side, just to be convenient |
| 18:01.44 | Titan8990_ | simonrvn, likely using ubuntu too |
| 18:02.12 | TeXnicer | 5.0.1 |
| 18:02.29 | TeXnicer | Mac101, what are you up to exactly? |
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| 18:02.47 | Roland- | hey, how do I set gnome as default? |
| 18:02.48 | Mac101 | tryin to make iptables rules load after reboot |
| 18:02.54 | Roland- | I have xfce now and im planning to change |
| 18:02.59 | TeXnicer | Titan8990, I started S.u.S.E. 5.1 in somewhat 1996 |
| 18:03.04 | beardy | !default wm |
| 18:03.05 | dpkg | [default window manager] to change the default window manager, do update-alternatives --config x-window-manager |
| 18:03.17 | TeXnicer | using kubuntu, xubuntu, debian-net, debian 5.0.1. |
| 18:03.25 | TeXnicer | and 5.0.3. |
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| 18:03.28 | Roland- | ok |
| 18:03.31 | TeXnicer | and Win XP "pro" |
| 18:04.02 | bjw2kc | how start xen? |
| 18:04.17 | TeXnicer | Titan8990 why not #passwd root? |
| 18:04.33 | Titan8990_ | bjw2kc, if your looking for something easy to "just start" then your looking for virtualbox |
| 18:04.49 | Titan8990_ | TeXnicer, because the debian installer does that... sudo is not installed by default in debian |
| 18:05.05 | cusco | hi... I once was told a factoid where I would mount a dir to build.. I would chroot into it, build whatever so I could keep my system clean (no dev libs etc) |
| 18:05.13 | cusco | what am I looking for? |
| 18:05.16 | Titan8990_ | TeXnicer, if you want to change the passwd sure... but it doesn't come locked |
| 18:05.25 | TeXnicer | TItan8990 I am talking about what I would do, when d_b leaves a rootshell open |
| 18:05.31 | Titan8990_ | cusco, debootstrap? |
| 18:05.44 | bjw2kc | Titan8990_ i have already try this, and not work |
| 18:05.54 | Titan8990_ | !doesn't work |
| 18:05.58 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
| 18:06.05 | bjw2kc | sorry xD |
| 18:06.11 | cusco | Titan8990_: I guess I would make such build-system with debootstrap, but the bot had a set of instructions I would like to read |
| 18:06.23 | Titan8990_ | bjw2kc, when does it fail? what errors? |
| 18:06.23 | themill | cusco: pbuilder or cowbuilder |
| 18:06.36 | cusco | ok let me try that :P |
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| 18:07.55 | sterna | hi |
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| 18:08.19 | sterna | what do i need to tell kernel to wait longer for scsi devices to appear |
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| 18:08.47 | sterna | i cant boot because md runs before disks are ready |
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| 18:10.04 | abrotman | try the rootdelay option |
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| 18:10.48 | sterna | rootdelay, thanks |
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| 18:11.18 | simonrvn | there's a set of commands specific for scsi to tell the subsystem to slow down, do the detection/ready phase synchronously, etc. |
| 18:11.22 | sterna | it works if i manually mdadm -A --scan each boot from initramfs |
| 18:11.32 | sterna | abrotman: thanks |
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| 18:12.02 | simonrvn | see params.txt and the docs in scsi/ in the kernel source/Documentation/ |
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| 18:15.22 | Phil4 | I'm looking to boot debian to a diskless client over the network and I have DHCP and TFTP set up and DHCP has the root-path set but I'm not sure where to get the stuff that needs to go in root-path |
| 18:15.27 | Phil4 | anyone have any suggestions? |
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| 18:17.24 | Titan8990_ | Phil4, there is a link in the PXE installation section of the install guide |
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| 18:17.46 | Phil4 | Titan8990, I don't want to install it - just boot it |
| 18:18.20 | Titan8990_ | so.. your basically trying to boot a livecd over the network? |
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| 18:18.48 | Titan8990_ | interesting but never heard of someone doing |
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| 18:19.10 | Phil4 | I just want to boot Debian over the network onto a system so I can image the hard drive over FTp |
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| 18:19.13 | Phil4 | *FTP |
| 18:19.45 | [US]shootm3h | hi people, what can i use besides wireshark to look at the traffic that's passing between my box and my router ? i have un known traffic atm :S and wireshark will not work |
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| 18:20.02 | Titan8990_ | Phil4, no idea, sounds pretty odd |
| 18:20.12 | Phil4 | Titan8990, it's pretty standard |
| 18:20.17 | Phil4 | just not exactly sure how it's done |
| 18:20.28 | Titan8990_ | [US]shootm3h, why won't wireshark work? |
| 18:21.07 | [US]shootm3h | Titan8990, i don't know, i start it as root, select choose interface, press start on peth0 (i'm running xen, that's the physical eth0) and it just hangs |
| 18:21.14 | Phil4 | I wonder if http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/binary-i386/ has anything to do with it |
| 18:21.16 | Titan8990_ | Phil4, well, i have of like NFS mounted / and etc... but PXE boot to a a filesystem that on a network location... no |
| 18:21.40 | Phil4 | Titan8990, that is what I'm after |
| 18:21.50 | Phil4 | NFS mounting / |
| 18:21.52 | [US]shootm3h | Titan8990, i select the virtual eth0, i have something now thanks. |
| 18:22.09 | Phil4 | as I said, I have DHCP set up to do it, but I don't know which files to put in the directory |
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| 18:22.19 | [US]shootm3h | i think i've been hacked :( |
| 18:22.31 | Titan8990_ | [US]shootm3h, mine does the same, pick it from "show the caputure options" instead of "List available capture interfaces" |
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| 18:22.50 | Titan8990_ | [US]shootm3h, what makes you think that? |
| 18:23.06 | [US]shootm3h | it's doing all kinds of wierd stuff on UDP ports |
| 18:23.10 | [US]shootm3h | constantly |
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| 18:23.18 | [US]shootm3h | but i've not got anything netish running on that box |
| 18:23.23 | Phil4 | Titan8990, the idea of doing it is so I can boot Debian from the network, mount a / over NFS with a custom made script which I can run to image the hard disk from an FTP server |
| 18:23.43 | [US]shootm3h | ahhh |
| 18:23.48 | [US]shootm3h | i can see my VM doing something |
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| 18:24.40 | Titan8990_ | [US]shootm3h, if it doesn't contain sensitive information you should upload a .cap somewhere |
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| 18:26.01 | Phil4 | http://www.howtoforge.com/pxe_booting_debian <-- that seems to be it |
| 18:26.02 | buntfalke | As the user of a Debian system, is there a method for using apt-get / aptitude to install more packages into a non-root path? I may not call chroot. |
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| 18:26.38 | buntfalke | I would like to locally install an 64bit toolchain on a system which otherwise has a 32bit userland (but runs a 64bit kernel) |
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| 18:28.54 | HandyGandy | I's got no sound on my laptop can someone help me? |
| 18:29.15 | aixenv | handy: did it used to work? |
| 18:29.34 | [US]shootm3h | Hey Titan8990 would you mind looking at it for me ? i should email it to you ? or use rapidshare or something ? assuming the file aint text based |
| 18:29.50 | HandyGandy | I know it works in Windows, but I'm don't think i really even tried it today in debian. |
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| 18:30.23 | cahoot | HandyGandy: test sound with speaker-test -t wav -c2 - any error msg? |
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| 18:32.13 | [US]shootm3h | ok Titan8990 http://rapidshare.com/files/305594378/test.cap.html . anybody else want to see if i've been hacked ? i am 192.168.0.3, the router is 0.1 and the ubuntu 9.10 vm is 0.6 |
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| 18:32.35 | [US]shootm3h | even tho i have removed all open ports and shutdown the vm, things from the net are still trying to find my VM :S |
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| 18:33.25 | rerushg | fresh install squeeze - amd64 - ext4 - smooth install - no boot - grub error 15 - help please? |
| 18:34.14 | abrotman | [US]shootm3h: where is Debian ? |
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| 18:34.19 | simonrvn | !error 15 |
| 18:34.23 | [US]shootm3h | on 0.4 |
| 18:34.24 | [US]shootm3h | 0.3 |
| 18:34.29 | [US]shootm3h | it's the machine i'm running Xen on |
| 18:34.32 | simonrvn | !grub error 15 |
| 18:34.33 | dpkg | For grub error 15, see http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml |
| 18:34.34 | [US]shootm3h | the machine hosting the VM |
| 18:34.39 | Titan8990_ | simonrvn, hes probably using grub 2 and its likely different |
| 18:34.56 | Titan8990_ | [US]shootm3h, see pm |
| 18:34.57 | abrotman | or he's not using grub2 and tha'ts hte problem |
| 18:35.12 | simonrvn | Titan8990_: it's possible.. |
| 18:35.31 | babilen | maybe he will let us know? |
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| 18:35.53 | rerushg | abrotman: grub2 - I understand what error 15 is - just don't understand why - :) |
| 18:35.57 | [US]shootm3h | i though it was my debain, but the cap is showing all that between the ubuntu 9.10(on 0.6) and the internet . (i had ssh open to debian, so i assumed debian ) but it's too the ubuntu vm, but i captured that log from wireshark in debian |
| 18:36.08 | Titan8990_ | on my squeeze install grub installation failed for w/e reason... first time since i used slackware I ended up with lilo |
| 18:36.37 | HandyGandy | cahoot: Cannot find card '0' |
| 18:36.45 | Titan8990_ | [US]shootm3h, check your PMs.... |
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| 18:37.22 | [US]shootm3h | if anyone else wants that cap and can't get it from rapidshare let me know in pm i email it |
| 18:37.26 | cahoot | HandyGandy: cat /proc/asound/cards |
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| 18:38.50 | abrotman | [US]shootm3h: why not use a regular pastebin ? |
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| 18:39.09 | [US]shootm3h | abrotman, is it text based file ? didn't look like it :S |
| 18:39.29 | [US]shootm3h | ok sent it Titan8990 i try pastbin now abrotman |
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| 18:39.47 | [US]shootm3h | abrotman, .org or .com ? |
| 18:39.53 | HandyGandy | cahoot: sorry about the vague error message, http://pastebin.com/m7f93ba24 |
| 18:39.53 | Titan8990_ | abrotman, pretty sure the .cap files are binary or atleast contain some binary data |
| 18:40.03 | HandyGandy | juswt a sec I'l post that file. |
| 18:40.47 | cahoot | HandyGandy: just tell if it returns any cards |
| 18:40.48 | abrotman | [US]shootm3h: nevermind |
| 18:40.52 | simonrvn | they are binary |
| 18:41.05 | HandyGandy | 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel |
| 18:41.05 | HandyGandy | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:41.08 | abrotman | yeah .. brain fraty |
| 18:41.18 | abrotman | smashes his own fingers |
| 18:41.30 | cahoot | HandyGandy: ok run 'id' - are you member of audiogroup? |
| 18:41.31 | dustybin | :) |
| 18:41.35 | simonrvn | !shoot abrotman's typist |
| 18:41.36 | dpkg | blows abrotman's typist away with a double-barreled shotgun |
| 18:41.54 | dustybin | !cluebat abrotman |
| 18:41.54 | dpkg | beats abrotman with the ClueBat of #debian. Roll 1d6... 5! For security information, see http://www.debian.org/security/ |
| 18:42.02 | HandyGandy | cahoot: no |
| 18:42.16 | cahoot | HandyGandy: you want to be there |
| 18:42.23 | abrotman | not exactly a cluebat situation |
| 18:42.40 | Wyzard | Is it just me or is bugs.debian.org down? |
| 18:42.41 | ranix | lol |
| 18:42.50 | ranix | this file can only be downloaded by becoming a premium member |
| 18:42.52 | abrotman | Wyzard: file a bug on that |
| 18:42.53 | ranix | whatever |
| 18:43.06 | abrotman | Wyzard: yes, just you |
| 18:43.17 | Wyzard | hmm, strange |
| 18:43.31 | Wyzard | http://bugs.debian.org/ times out for me |
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| 18:44.12 | simonrvn | notes the irony of filing a bug on b.d.o being down |
| 18:44.24 | abrotman | it was supposed to be |
| 18:44.45 | simonrvn | abrotman: \o/ |
| 18:45.06 | [US]shootm3h | ok Titan8990 if you didn't get the email http://uploaded.to/file/cza5jr anyone else want to confirm if i've been hacked. load the file in wireshark. |
| 18:45.08 | HandyGandy | cahoot: Do i haver to logoff and log back on? |
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| 18:45.25 | Mac101 | do u use id_rsa or id_rsa.pub on the client pc? |
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| 18:45.54 | cahoot | HandyGandy: for simplicity yes |
| 18:45.56 | iandoh2 | how can i force x to use 50hz |
| 18:46.06 | HandyGandy | brb |
| 18:46.21 | cahoot | iandoh2: try xrandr |
| 18:46.52 | iandoh2 | you mean x11-xserver-utils? |
| 18:47.41 | blurry | [US]shootm3h: seriously? |
| 18:47.45 | cahoot | no I mean xrandr |
| 18:47.51 | iandoh2 | it says it doesnt exist anymore |
| 18:47.57 | iandoh2 | Package xrandr is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
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| 18:48.27 | cahoot | iandoh2: what kind of debian is this? |
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| 18:48.38 | iandoh2 | 5.0.3 |
| 18:48.43 | HandyGandy | cahoot: Works now thanks. |
| 18:48.56 | Titan8990_ | [US]shootm3h, yeah... that doesn't look good |
| 18:49.15 | abrotman | iandoh2: how did you install X ? |
| 18:49.23 | iandoh2 | came with debian install |
| 18:49.29 | hark | iandoh2: it's not a package |
| 18:49.32 | Titan8990_ | especially since the ICMP packets contain pretty much the same data as the UDP packets... that are going to random locations on the globe |
| 18:49.41 | iandoh2 | i have it outputting by s-video but i need 50fps not 60 |
| 18:49.53 | abrotman | because of your TV ? |
| 18:49.58 | iandoh2 | yes |
| 18:50.09 | abrotman | i have a feeling the refresh won't be the only problem |
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| 18:50.51 | [US]shootm3h | blurry, seriously :( |
| 18:50.57 | [US]shootm3h | Titan8990, i didn't think so |
| 18:51.08 | blurry | [US]shootm3h: punishing people for trying to help? |
| 18:51.26 | blurry | what a humanitarian |
| 18:51.29 | [US]shootm3h | Titan8990, i have no idea how my ubuntu vm got hacked, i don't even have active ports to it |
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| 18:51.41 | [US]shootm3h | hmm blurry i was agreeing with titan that it does not look good |
| 18:51.53 | aixenv | [US]shootm3h: if there's a public ip.. that's all you need... |
| 18:51.53 | blurry | [US]shootm3h: i'm not talking about that |
| 18:52.06 | blurry | that = your comment to whomever |
| 18:52.10 | iandoh2 | its just the refresh |
| 18:52.55 | [US]shootm3h | blurry, i not sure what you mean, i certanly don't think i've said anything to upset anyone, i'm trying to get multiple people to look at the log to confirm that i've been hacked, and if anyone knows by what, or what the ports are for, cos i don't |
| 18:54.09 | blurry | [US]shootm3h: closing the ports doesn't end the processes sending data and if there's no explicit end of message packet sent to the client, it will keep trying, too. |
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| 18:55.02 | [US]shootm3h | blurry, ahh yeah, i just expected the router to stop it there rather than broadcasting for it |
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| 18:56.17 | blurry | [US]shootm3h: i don't know how your router/iptables scheme is set up |
| 18:56.43 | [US]shootm3h | blurry, it's a very cheap samsung router from bSkyb |
| 18:56.53 | [US]shootm3h | probably how they attacked the VM in the first place |
| 18:57.14 | blurry | right on man |
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| 18:58.49 | babilen | hi all! How can i find out why a package is in contrib? |
| 18:59.16 | Titan8990_ | !contrib |
| 18:59.16 | dpkg | hmm... contrib is Debian packages that are free, but depend on software not in Debian (possibly in contrib or non-free). To get contrib packages, add lines like "deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [etch|lenny|squeeze|sid] main contrib" to your /etc/apt/sources.list. Also ask me about <non-free>. |
| 18:59.23 | abrotman | babilen: because it is free, but depends on a non-free package |
| 18:59.54 | babilen | abrotman: Yes, i know the policy. But how can i find out the specific reasons for a given package? |
| 18:59.59 | abrotman | babilen: which package? |
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| 19:00.12 | babilen | abrotman: python2.5-doc in this case |
| 19:00.19 | abrotman | !gfdl |
| 19:00.20 | dpkg | [gfdl] The GNU "Free" Documentation License, considered <non-free> by Debian in some cases. Read the discussion at http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200309/msg00169.html and http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200304/msg00246.html. See the position statement at http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.html and resolution at http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_001 |
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| 19:00.27 | abrotman | would be my guess |
| 19:00.33 | blurry | [US]shootm3h: do you have a script that adds iptable rules to the host which clone those of the vm? |
| 19:01.00 | jpinx-eeepc | judd: versions web-irssi |
| 19:01.00 | judd | jpinx-eeepc: web-irssi -- |
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| 19:02.03 | abrotman | babilen: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=540526 |
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| 19:02.37 | abrotman | babilen: GFDL has nothing to do with it |
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| 19:04.11 | babilen | abrotman: thanks. And the answer to my question how to find this out in general. I wholeheartedly with the "add a explanation to copyright" . |
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| 19:04.35 | abrotman | babilen: or least the document README would be nice |
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| 19:05.12 | babilen | abrotman: exactly, but copyright seems to be more policy compliant. Anyway - thanks for digging. :-D |
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| 19:05.40 | abrotman | babilen: apparently neither are policy compliant .. or it would be there already |
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| 19:06.39 | babilen | abrotman: apparently 12.5 in the policy add that a package *should* include an explanation. Note: no *must* |
| 19:06.55 | babilen | s/add/says |
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| 19:07.34 | damian | Is there a way to run a command via ssh and have it use a display (connected via vnc) if necessary? |
| 19:07.45 | abrotman | babilen: include where ? |
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| 19:09.58 | damian | yeesh |
| 19:09.58 | abrotman | so long .. far well .. |
| 19:09.58 | dkr | damian: ssh -X |
| 19:09.58 | babilen | abrotman: in the copyright file. |
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| 19:10.31 | abrotman | babilen: oh well .. still not a must |
| 19:14.41 | Mac101 | hey anyone know how to make iptables rules auto load after a reboot? |
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| 19:14.56 | Mac101 | using deb5 stable |
| 19:15.03 | damian | dkr: I'm connected via PuTTY on a Windows system. Is there anything that can be run remotely? When I try to do it with X11 forwarding I get the error message "Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:10.0" |
| 19:15.05 | dondelelcaro | Mac101: consider using ferm or similar |
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| 19:15.13 | nkuttler | damian: use screen |
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| 19:15.56 | dondelelcaro | damian: if you have an X server running or something that understands X, yes. |
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| 19:17.37 | ikanobori | Dearest, is it possible to use iptables to block outgoing connections on a per-user/per-port basis. |
| 19:17.44 | ikanobori | If not, are there any alternatives to doing so. |
| 19:17.46 | dondelelcaro | ikanobori: yes. |
| 19:17.47 | Mac101 | dondelelcaro is that the best slution cause i havent got any probs with my rules just unsure how to get em to start at boot |
| 19:18.03 | dondelelcaro | Mac101: it's one of the best solutions, yes. |
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| 19:18.25 | ikanobori | dondelelcaro: You have any suggestions on where I can do some reading up on the subject? I am knowledgeable of ipfw but a total cluebie on iptables. |
| 19:20.00 | dondelelcaro | !netfilter docs |
| 19:20.01 | dpkg | netfilter docs are at /usr/share/doc/iptables/html/, http://netfilter.samba.org/unreliable-guides/, http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/, at http://netfilter.samba.org/ |
| 19:20.03 | dondelelcaro | ikanobori: see above. |
| 19:20.13 | ikanobori | dondelelcaro: Thank you. |
| 19:20.22 | dondelelcaro | np |
| 19:20.28 | babilen | Mac101: You could also write an init script... |
| 19:21.08 | babilen | ikanobori: This topic was discussed on debian-user recently. You might want to read that thread as well. |
| 19:22.00 | ikanobori | I'll look for the archives. |
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| 19:22.43 | dondelelcaro | yeah, the advantage of using something like ferm is that it'll rollback changes and has other really nice features |
| 19:22.55 | ikanobori | On another server I still need some help with fixing up my network devices. They work but iftop/snmp doesn't seem to get any data from them. |
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| 19:23.03 | ikanobori | Any diagnostics I should run? |
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| 19:24.31 | sentencia | hello |
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| 19:24.56 | sentencia | i was usin a gforce 5200 until now, but i changed it for 8500gt |
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| 19:25.12 | sentencia | when it loads gnome, monitor is going to sleep |
| 19:25.20 | sentencia | it gets freezy |
| 19:25.30 | sentencia | i tried via console to remove the old driver and reinstall them |
| 19:25.34 | sentencia | but still seems down |
| 19:25.47 | sentencia | how could i debug this? |
| 19:26.23 | wols | check your X logs and really fix your enter key |
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| 19:27.28 | abrotman | the monitor is going out of range it sounds like |
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| 19:28.21 | sentencia | reading Xorg.0.log from /var/log gives no any error, all is ok |
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| 19:28.51 | sentencia | hm abrotman, can i force via xorg what resolution i need? i think i have it correctly from old graphic card |
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| 19:29.08 | abrotman | sentencia: you could move your /etc/X11/xorg.conf aside |
| 19:29.15 | sentencia | aha |
| 19:29.31 | sentencia | nd create a new one dpkg-reconfigure xserver-free8? |
| 19:29.51 | sentencia | 86? sorry for my enter key, im using a media center keyboard, and this is a freaking pain |
| 19:29.55 | abrotman | are you using Lenny ? |
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| 19:30.02 | sentencia | yes, i am using lenny |
| 19:30.13 | sentencia | i installed the driver via m-a a-i nvidia |
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| 19:30.21 | abrotman | try it without an xorg.conf .. it may be able to magically guess the setup |
| 19:30.40 | sentencia | oh, that sounds too good, i go try |
| 19:30.54 | tensorpudding | xfree86? is that still around? |
| 19:31.27 | sentencia | abrotman: :) |
| 19:31.31 | sentencia | thank you so much |
| 19:31.31 | mattgirv | tensorpudding: Latest release was about a year ago |
| 19:31.35 | abrotman | tensorpudding: yes, but not in any supported release of Debian |
| 19:32.35 | tensorpudding | i dimly remember it from my first attempts with linux |
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| 19:33.08 | tensorpudding | i vaguely remember sarge having it |
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| 19:37.24 | sentencia | well, it is a bit annoying, in gnome, i run the nvidia-xconfig and it creates a new xorg.conf, nvidia-settings suggest to restart gdm for run nvidia driver, and when i do it, i get the same problem again |
| 19:37.34 | sentencia | i configured xorg.conf with modues 1400x900 |
| 19:37.44 | sentencia | modules* |
| 19:37.48 | sentencia | damn, modes |
| 19:38.25 | valdyn | sentencia: your /var/log/Xorg.0.log tells why its not using which mode |
| 19:39.08 | valdyn | sentencia: also tells which modes its using naturally |
| 19:39.20 | valdyn | sentencia: and you have a manual to read up on display specs |
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| 19:39.52 | sentencia | i understand |
| 19:39.53 | sentencia | thanks |
| 19:40.20 | valdyn | sentencia: with that information we would know whats wrong and could fix that by editing xorg.conf |
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| 19:42.21 | twobitsprite | does anyone here use nxproxy for remote X displays? The only package I see is "nxproxy" but it doesn't install any man pages, and I'm having a hard time finding howtos |
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| 19:44.09 | tonyd | Can someone help me make xv work? |
| 19:45.12 | twobitsprite | tonyd: what is xv? |
| 19:45.46 | maligor | xvideo probably |
| 19:46.02 | tonyd | yes xvideo |
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| 19:46.18 | tonyd | I am trying to play avi files and it is giving me a fit |
| 19:46.21 | sentencia | the only problem i see is that module type1 cant be loaded because doesn't exists - is that all the problem? |
| 19:46.54 | sentencia | i can google it |
| 19:46.54 | valdyn | sentencia: thats not a problem |
| 19:46.59 | twobitsprite | tonyd: check out mplayer on debian-multimedia |
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| 19:47.15 | twobitsprite | !tell tonyd -about debian-multimedia |
| 19:47.28 | valdyn | sentencia: have you find your display specs yet? |
| 19:47.40 | valdyn | *found* |
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| 19:48.28 | tonyd | I have mplayer, and the only vo option I can set is x11, and then it wil not resize to full screen |
| 19:48.28 | ikanobori | http://bpaste.net/show/720/ < anyone know what to do with this? |
| 19:48.28 | pigdude | time to upgrade, bbl everyone |
| 19:48.28 | ikanobori | I reckon it's a kernel problem. |
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| 19:49.16 | buntfalke | what's wrong with this apt.conf? http://nopaste.info/5e668f7649.html |
| 19:49.20 | _SKiTZO | this is depressing! debian is missing from the list: http://www.etherboot.org/wiki/sanboot/iscsi_install |
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| 19:49.54 | twobitsprite | tonyd: what do you mean it won't let you go fullscreen? |
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| 19:49.59 | tonyd | I mean, the windows will go fullscreen but the video stays small. A google search of the problem reveals a possible solution of using xvideo instead, but it does not work, I have to configure xorg.conf to use it? |
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| 19:50.32 | valdyn | tonyd: xv works by default unless your hardware is not supported ( you would be using the vesa driver then ) |
| 19:50.33 | twobitsprite | have you tried this stuff here: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-204.html |
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| 20:00.26 | tonyd | okay, that works, but when I exit the video my screen resolution is off |
| 20:01.08 | tonyd | it is 640X480 and I have to change it back |
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| 20:06.13 | sentencia | hi again |
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| 20:06.35 | tonyd | I used -vo SLD it seems to work |
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| 20:06.46 | sentencia | i run x with nv driver instead nvidia by the moment, and the error i see is: Failed to initalize HAL! |
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| 20:07.03 | sentencia | is that relevant? |
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| 20:08.05 | tonyd | ****sdl |
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| 20:09.05 | drbob_ | I get rsync: failed to connect to <machine name> error in socket IO (code 10) at clientserver.c(124) [receiver=3.0.6] when I try to do my backups. This used to work fine 6 months ago. |
| 20:09.38 | drbob_ | So, what changed? And what kind of horrible error messages are these? |
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| 20:10.02 | valdyn | drbob_: the <machine name> is switched off? |
| 20:10.07 | simonrvn | receiving end isn't getting it? did you try to google the error message? |
| 20:10.19 | drbob_ | valdyn: no, it is very much alive. |
| 20:10.23 | valdyn | drbob_: how would we know, go and check if sshd is accessible |
| 20:10.43 | valdyn | drbob_: or the rsync daemon if you were really using the rsync transport |
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| 20:11.22 | drbob_ | valdyn: I am logged into the Debian machine via ssh and it connects to a Windows machine to make a backup of the Windows machine to the Linux machine. |
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| 20:11.47 | valdyn | drbob_: except that it doesnt connect |
| 20:11.51 | drbob_ | valdyn: the machine is on, because someone just told me so and I can ping it. |
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| 20:12.18 | valdyn | drbob_: whichever transport ( ssh or rsync ) is not accessible |
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| 20:12.51 | valdyn | drbob_: guess in windows lingo that means that either the ssh or the rsync service are not running or firewalled |
| 20:13.09 | smacnay | Does brasero 2.28 in Gnome 2.28 (deb sid) span multiple dvd's for large files? |
| 20:13.29 | smacnay | I seem to recall there being discussion that it did but my copy will not. |
| 20:13.35 | drbob_ | valdyn: well, the rsync server (on the windows side) is running. And unless Microsoft introduced auto firewall rules there is no firewall. |
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| 20:13.48 | valdyn | drbob_: dont guess, test this |
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| 20:15.02 | Adriaan | hey, is there a utility for debian that helps me check if i have incoming sound from a mic? |
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| 20:15.15 | drbob_ | valdyn: it is not that easy to test. The only person on the remote site is a fairly ignorant user. |
| 20:15.28 | valdyn | drbob_: telnet <server> <port> |
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| 20:15.48 | valdyn | drbob_: are you sure its even using the rsync transport? |
| 20:16.01 | valdyn | drbob_: commonly people use the ssh transport |
| 20:16.14 | drbob_ | valdyn: I tested it 6 months ago and it worked. Nothing has changed in the meanwhile. |
| 20:16.24 | wooden | drbob_: What does 'net start rsyncd' return? |
| 20:16.25 | drbob_ | valdyn: I can check it, of course... |
| 20:16.36 | Sogorukuhn | Hi @ all |
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| 20:17.18 | drbob_ | wooden: well, I expect it to say something like "already started" or something like that, but we will see. |
| 20:17.58 | valdyn | for all we saw you dont even know if you used the rsync transport |
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| 20:18.11 | valdyn | seeing the rsync command would fix that |
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| 20:18.15 | wooden | ^ |
| 20:18.32 | pigdude | Why does the distributed version of Iceweasel (3.0.14 is current in testing) change so many defaults, and how could I go about reverting them? Specifically, |
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| 20:18.39 | drbob_ | valdyn: I use rsnapshot which depends on rsync. I can strace the thing to see, I suppose. |
| 20:18.50 | valdyn | drbob_: so its the ssh transport |
| 20:18.55 | pigdude | <C-CR> doesn't complete "google" to "www.google.com", and there's no search toolbar |
| 20:19.16 | pigdude | likewise, <S-CR> should complete to .net and <C-S-CR> to .org |
| 20:19.33 | drbob_ | valdyn: ok, it might, but I know I configured Windows such that it could also use that. |
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| 20:20.50 | wooden | drbob_: So, if you were doing this non-interactively, over ssh transport, you must have provided the Windows machine with some public key from your Debian machine, right? |
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| 20:21.05 | rpaulson | does anyone know if it's possible to interrupt the operation # mdadm --grow /dev/md0 --raid-devices=5 |
| 20:21.46 | rpaulson | finish=570.1min <--there's the reason.. I planned to sleep in that room tonight :P |
| 20:21.46 | pigdude | is there somewhere I can go to see the changes to about:config bundled with Iceweasel in debian? |
| 20:21.53 | drbob_ | wooden: or I use some horrible insecure way which assumes that everyone on the LAN is safe. |
| 20:22.05 | drbob_ | wooden: it was 6 months ago. I don't have perfect memory. |
| 20:22.33 | valdyn | drbob_: youre on the debian server, right? |
| 20:22.43 | drbob_ | valdyn: yes, I was stracing it now. |
| 20:23.02 | valdyn | drbob_: so, which ports on the windows box were accessible? the rsync port? the ssh port? both? none? |
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| 20:23.37 | pigdude | facepalms |
| 20:23.51 | pigdude | in all seriousness, I'm happy to see epiphany as the default |
| 20:24.10 | valdyn | pigdude: you mean webkit? |
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| 20:24.26 | valdyn | pigdude: or where would epiphany be the default? |
| 20:24.38 | pigdude | valdyn, well it uses webkit for rendering |
| 20:24.43 | abrotman | doesn't gnome default to it being the preferred application ? |
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| 20:24.48 | abrotman | pigdude: it can use .. |
| 20:24.51 | pigdude | valdyn, in the past iceweasel was the debian default |
| 20:24.55 | hark | pigdude: try with a new profile, debian does not change it |
| 20:25.01 | pigdude | hence my original confusion :) |
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| 20:25.09 | pigdude | hark, ^^ |
| 20:25.12 | valdyn | epiphany with webkit is harld usable except for the most basic webtaks |
| 20:25.14 | valdyn | epiphany with webkit is harld usable except for the most basic webtasks |
| 20:25.18 | drbob_ | valdyn: running nmap, since I don't know the ports by heart. |
| 20:25.22 | pigdude | or for testing webkit :) |
| 20:25.27 | valdyn | drbob_: they are listed in /etc/services |
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| 20:25.31 | tensorpudding | i like midori |
| 20:25.37 | pigdude | but chrome'll be out soon enough for that too |
| 20:26.07 | tensorpudding | but the present/near-future of web browsers seems to be webkit |
| 20:26.10 | hark | mistaking epiphany for firefox! tsk tsk |
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| 20:27.20 | pigdude | tensorpudding, yep, mozilla has to move quickly or chrome's going to eat its free lunch |
| 20:27.44 | pigdude | tensorpudding, right now it's got the other browsers beat in terms of usability IMO but gecko's gotta go |
| 20:27.53 | tensorpudding | as far as i'm concerned, they'd have to completely rewrite firefox to compeete |
| 20:28.05 | valdyn | chrome in linux is also hardly usable |
| 20:28.13 | alkalinelito | Hello, is there some way, to have like a global history of commands (All users), what time /date of commands executed in the server of all users. even if the user deletes his bash_history file ? |
| 20:28.18 | pigdude | the chrome dev snapshot for mac is delightful |
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| 20:28.33 | tensorpudding | chrome on linux is stable but very incomplete |
| 20:28.50 | tensorpudding | i use it since it does all i really need if not all i really want |
| 20:28.51 | mattgirv | tensorpudding: What is incomplete out of curiousity, seems fine here |
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| 20:29.23 | tensorpudding | very little configuration options, huge chunks of functionality in the windows version haven't been ported |
| 20:29.42 | batteronizer | mattgirv: does not have print support, or support for plugins |
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| 20:30.05 | tensorpudding | i can't tell what chrome wants to use for viewing files, which is obnoxious |
| 20:30.05 | batteronizer | actually windows version does not have it either, but i like saying that |
| 20:30.37 | tensorpudding | i finally got it to use evince for pdf's, but i had to remove xpdf to do so |
| 20:31.05 | ranix | icedove keeps opening konqueror instead of iceweasel for URLs |
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| 20:31.14 | ranix | I honestly can't be bothered to fix it |
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| 20:31.53 | ranix | right clicking a downloaded file in the download manager (why is it ctrl + y instead of ctrl + d like windows?) and choosing "open containing folder" does nothing |
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| 20:32.03 | hark | ranix: just fix x-www-browser |
| 20:32.04 | ranix | etc. etc. |
| 20:32.05 | eptalon | heya guys |
| 20:32.14 | hark | i'm sorry but firefox is where it's at. might as well use midori if you want to use chrome. once extensions get widespread for chrome, the situation might change |
| 20:32.14 | zirikili | hey. how do I install an old sarge package on lenny? |
| 20:32.30 | ranix | are we talking google chrome or x11 chrome now |
| 20:32.39 | eptalon | is it normal that a raid1 rebulid takes the same time as a raid5 rebuild? (using softraid, md)? |
| 20:32.39 | tensorpudding | firefox is unsuitable for older computers |
| 20:32.44 | drbob_ | valdyn: nmap geeft 873/tcp closed rsync |
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| 20:32.54 | rpaulson | zirikili: either download it from packages.debian.org or set your sources.list to point to sarge |
| 20:32.55 | drbob_ | valdyn: er gives* |
| 20:32.57 | tensorpudding | also, there is experimental plugin support for chrome, I have flash and java working |
| 20:32.58 | eptalon | tensorpudding: y? |
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| 20:33.06 | valdyn | drbob_: so firewalled |
| 20:33.11 | valdyn | drbob_: or service not running |
| 20:33.16 | tensorpudding | it uses too much RAM |
| 20:33.34 | zirikili | rpaulson: so may I back to lenny after install? |
| 20:33.35 | drbob_ | valdyn: yep |
| 20:33.50 | rpaulson | zirikili: yes |
| 20:33.53 | tensorpudding | about twice as much as chrome does on average for my machine |
| 20:34.00 | rpaulson | zirikili: remember to apt-get update or aptitude update |
| 20:34.07 | rpaulson | after changing sources |
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| 20:34.53 | zirikili | rpaulson: ok. is that the safesty way? |
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| 20:38.04 | zirikili | rpaulson: thanks |
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| 20:46.26 | HackeMate | i was not able to install it, i swtiched back to my old graphic card |
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| 20:47.12 | hark | which version of debian and what errors did you get? |
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| 20:48.50 | HackeMate | well, the monitor was just in blank |
| 20:48.53 | HackeMate | not even going to sleep |
| 20:49.05 | HackeMate | looks as a valid resolution but nothing to show |
| 20:49.07 | sassyn | can some please tell how can I write a udev rule to run just once? |
| 20:49.13 | HackeMate | the button is turned on |
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| 20:49.26 | sassyn | can some please tell how can I write a udev rule to run just once? |
| 20:49.37 | HackeMate | i tried to reinstall driver via m-a -ai- force, reconfigued the xorg.conf |
| 20:49.44 | HackeMate | i got it working with nv driver instead |
| 20:49.54 | HackeMate | but when i configure nvidia driver, fail |
| 20:50.07 | HackeMate | the xorg.log has no errors |
| 20:50.13 | HackeMate | just some unrelevant warnings |
| 20:50.53 | Titan8990_ | HackeMate, mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak; nvidia-xconfig; startx; pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 20:54.42 | HackeMate | http://pastebin.com/f7bcdbce3 |
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| 20:57.21 | Titan8990_ | HackeMate, log does look fine, what happens when you startx? |
| 20:58.02 | HackeMate | i only see my monitor on blank |
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| 20:58.16 | HackeMate | and keybord doesnt respond, i cant ctrl+alt+backspace or ctrl+alt+f1 |
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| 20:59.24 | mikedam | i want to add the mirror at mit.edu to my source list file in order to get amarok |
| 20:59.33 | drbob_ | Is there some replacement for ssh which works on Windows XP, which gives me access the Windows command box? |
| 20:59.46 | eptalon | hello, I do have a strange problem, I want to move a directory of perhaps 10M, form vol A to vol B; Vol B has like 27G free. I get "no space left on device"? |
| 20:59.54 | Titan8990_ | mikedam, amarok is available in the main debian repos |
| 20:59.58 | eptalon | in Debian Sid |
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| 21:00.49 | mikedam | when i search through aptitude nothing comes up |
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| 21:01.00 | eptalon | drbob_: what do you want access to? |
| 21:01.22 | eptalon | drbob_: there is putty, if you want an ssh client. |
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| 21:01.35 | Titan8990_ | HackeMate, try this: startx &> startx.log and pastebin that log |
| 21:01.41 | drbob_ | eptalon: to a Windows machine remotely, over a 100KB/s uplink with only ssh -X |
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| 21:02.21 | Titan8990_ | drbob_, you can install ssh in windows, however that is a topic for #windows |
| 21:02.32 | Titan8990_ | the other option would be telnet |
| 21:02.39 | Titan8990_ | or netcat |
| 21:02.52 | mikedam | i am doing something wrong |
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| 21:03.01 | drbob_ | Titan8990_: but there is nothing by default, right? |
| 21:03.25 | Titan8990_ | drbob_, telnet might be there by default, dunno, only use windows at work when i have to |
| 21:03.43 | Titan8990_ | judd, versions amarok |
| 21:03.44 | judd | Titan8990_: amarok -- etch: 1.4.4-4etch1 etch-security: 1.4.4-4etch1 lenny: 1.4.10-2 sid: 2.2.0-1 squeeze: 2.2.0-1 |
| 21:04.07 | Titan8990_ | mikedam, aptitude search amarok doesn't return any results? |
| 21:04.18 | drbob_ | Titan8990_: yes, same situation here. People that use Windows should know themselves how to use it or just don't, but it's a tough sell to family. |
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| 21:05.27 | mikedam | it does not, i may not have the main in sources.list .. first Debian install |
| 21:05.39 | Pnux | hey, how can i know which process is using the audio device (/dev/dsp)? Something is using it and preventing other applications to use it.. |
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| 21:06.45 | Titan8990_ | mikedam, its there by default unless you have removed it. pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:07.05 | drbob_ | Pnux: lsod can help with that, I think. |
| 21:07.05 | Titan8990_ | Pnux, lsof |
| 21:07.10 | drbob_ | lsof* |
| 21:07.19 | Titan8990_ | Pnux, but isn't /dev/dsp for OSS? |
| 21:08.09 | Pnux | Titan8990_: i actually dont know, i got it from VLC's debug message (oss error: cannot open audio device (/dev/dsp) ) |
| 21:08.22 | mikedam | different computer ...i have security/debian.org and volatile.deb |
| 21:08.28 | mattgirv | Pnux: If you are using ALSA, try changing the output plugin in the VLC preferences |
| 21:08.50 | mattgirv | I think ALSA DSP is /dev/sound/dsp |
| 21:08.58 | drbob_ | Pnux: if you don't want any problems, just install hardware supported mixing. |
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| 21:09.32 | drbob_ | Pnux: everything else is just asking for troubles for unexperienced users (not that I am implying you are). |
| 21:09.34 | Titan8990_ | mikedam, well, ssh into that different computer and pastebin sources.list |
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| 21:11.58 | Pnux | drbob_, Titan8990_: lsof didnt help in this particular issue, so i guess VLC is laying.. anyways, thanks for the tip |
| 21:12.31 | mikedam | titan i cant ... iam in Iraq and the network wont let me. can u paste want i should have |
| 21:12.36 | drbob_ | Pnux: that would be _very_ unlikely. Of course you won't let me ssh into your machine, to prove you wrong ;) |
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| 21:12.54 | Titan8990_ | mikedam, how do you plan to fix a box you can't access? |
| 21:13.11 | Pnux | mattgirv: i did, but that didnt work.. ill try a few other things |
| 21:13.15 | Titan8990_ | !sources |
| 21:13.16 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 21:13.19 | drbob_ | Titan8990_: cruise missile with attached engineer? |
| 21:13.35 | Titan8990_ | drbob_, hehe |
| 21:13.37 | Pnux | drbob_: the "lsof | grep /dev/dsp" part? |
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| 21:14.00 | mikedam | titan thanx |
| 21:14.08 | sigp239 | How do I find out what package contains 'mdev' ? |
| 21:14.16 | drbob_ | Pnux: I think there is a way to get the pid of the process which has /dev/dsp open currently directly using lsof. |
| 21:14.19 | greycat | sigp239: packages.debian.org |
| 21:14.26 | drbob_ | Pnux: but I would too have to read the man page. |
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| 21:15.01 | greycat | drbob_: or fuser |
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| 21:15.23 | drbob_ | greycat: ah, yes, that is the more modern way to do so, I guess. |
| 21:15.29 | Titan8990_ | sigp239, apt-file update; apt-file find mdev |
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| 21:16.00 | sevet | oops, wrong window ;) |
| 21:16.15 | sigp239 | Titan8990, apt-file: command not found. |
| 21:16.48 | Titan8990_ | sigp239, install it |
| 21:16.49 | rafferty | online TV? such as MSNBC... is there an app or desklet for Ubuntu like channelchooser? |
| 21:17.15 | Titan8990_ | rafferty, ask #ubuntu |
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| 21:18.29 | Pnux | drbob_: lsof does say the pid without any args used.. |
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| 21:21.09 | sigp239 | Titan8990, I ran that command and didn't see the file in the list. Do you know where I can find mdev? |
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| 21:21.46 | Titan8990_ | sigp239, is it some kind of replacement for udev? |
| 21:22.05 | sigp239 | Titan8990, no its a file that chntpw scripts calls for. |
| 21:22.22 | sigp239 | Titan8990, I guess it could be a udev replacement not sure. |
| 21:22.26 | Titan8990_ | sigp239, uhh, i don't think so... google says: "mini-udev for busybox" |
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| 21:22.46 | Titan8990_ | sigp239, are you doing embedded programming or something? |
| 21:22.50 | greycat | sigp239: I'd still use packages.debian.org to search for a package containing a file by that name |
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| 21:23.53 | d_b | http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning I just followed these instructions and when doing aptitude update I see *a lot* of new packages. Should this really happen? I did edit /etc/apt/preferences , I pasted exactly what it said and removed the space before each line |
| 21:24.47 | Pnux | drbob_: anyways.. ima just do a Debian reinstall, this isnt the only problem im having and i havent done it for like a year, so its needed. Thanks a lot for your help |
| 21:24.48 | sigp239 | Titan8990, No embedded programming. mdev appears to be some kind of disk scan program. |
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| 21:25.32 | drbob_ | Pnux: reinstallation is a Windows approach. |
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| 21:25.40 | greycat | .oO( Why does Pnux think it's normal to reinstall every year or less? ) |
| 21:25.41 | Titan8990_ | sigp239, no, i just googled and told you what it does.... mini-udev for busybox |
| 21:25.50 | drbob_ | Pnux: I never had to do that after I had a clue about using Linux. |
| 21:26.30 | Titan8990_ | sigp239, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udev |
| 21:26.30 | greycat | Titan8990_: there could be two different things with the same name. |
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| 21:26.51 | Titan8990_ | greycat, yeah, that is possible. it doesn't look like it exists in debian either way |
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| 21:27.28 | sigp239 | Titan8990, yes, the scripts are using busybox. So how do I install mdev on my system? |
| 21:27.30 | Pnux | greycat, drbob_: its more a way to trow away things i dont need, and backup those i do need.. i could probably fix these issues, but its going to be better this way.. |
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| 21:27.57 | cahoot | and refreshed bytes |
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| 21:28.28 | greycat | New bytes are shiny. |
| 21:28.28 | Titan8990_ | sigp239, is the script for embedded linux? where did you get the scripts? what do they do? |
| 21:29.17 | sigp239 | Titan8990, The scripts are from the chntpw live CD. It's a linux live CD that lets you crack windows passwords and stuff like that. |
| 21:29.50 | greycat | So the mdev tool should be on the CD. |
| 21:29.54 | drbob_ | Nothing make we more awake than a fresh stream of ones and zeros in the morning. |
| 21:29.57 | sigp239 | Titan8990, And I'm trying to move all the scripts from that CD onto my own custom live CD. But when I run the script, it complains about missing mdev |
| 21:29.58 | drbob_ | me* |
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| 21:30.07 | sigp239 | greycat, I don't see it on the CD. |
| 21:30.10 | Titan8990_ | sigp239, you don't need a special anything for that... are you looking to recover a password on the local machine or crack an NTLM has you have acquired? |
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| 21:30.46 | HackeMate | Titan8990: i go to plug in the graphic card again and try that commands that you told me (pastebin the startx &> |
| 21:31.04 | sigp239 | Titan8990, I'm specifically looking to take the chntpw live CD, which I've already extracted, and integrate it into my own multi-purpose live CD. I need the mdev program. |
| 21:31.05 | greycat | sigp239: well, if it actually runs from that CD, it must be on the CD somewhere. |
| 21:31.10 | Titan8990_ | HackeMate, let me know because I hate when stuff doesn't work AND doesn't give a useful error |
| 21:31.15 | greycat | sigp239: or it must be generated by something when the CD boots |
| 21:32.00 | Titan8990_ | sigp239, umm, how was this debian related? |
| 21:32.13 | sigp239 | Titan8990, Because I'm running this on Debian. |
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| 21:32.27 | Titan8990_ | sigp239, the livecd will be modified debian? |
| 21:32.31 | sigp239 | and I figured Debian had a package for mdev, or that mdev was contained within another package. |
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| 21:32.46 | sigp239 | Titan8990, Yes, a debian-live cd.... |
| 21:32.55 | iandoh2 | anyone know how to output xserver at 50hz/ |
| 21:33.16 | greycat | well, packages.d.o doesn't find any package in lenny with a file named mdev |
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| 21:33.32 | jeeves_moss | how can I get my modem working on a Toshiba P100? I don't have an internet connection on the Linux box. The modem reports as a "hdaudio soft data fax modem with smartCP" in windwos |
| 21:33.37 | sigp239 | This is the chntpw CD. http://home.eunet.no/pnordahl/ntpasswd/cd080802.zip |
| 21:34.25 | iandoh2 | no one? |
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| 21:34.43 | greycat | http://home.eunet.no/pnordahl/ntpasswd/ claims it offers full source code for everything |
| 21:34.50 | Hellmark[S10e] | Ok, I have a lenny machine here, and I just added a new network card. The old network card is connected to a small local network. The new network card is to connect to the router for an internet connection. The computer connects online just fine, can do what ever, but if something tries to connect to it (or even ping it) on the network that goes to the internet, it cannot. If you connect via the local network on the old network card, y |
| 21:34.50 | Hellmark[S10e] | ou can ping it just fine (for IP addresses for both NICs) |
| 21:35.14 | Titan8990_ | sigp239, if im reading that right it is not for cracking passwords, its for resetting them |
| 21:35.25 | sigp239 | Titan8990, yes, resetting them |
| 21:35.36 | sigp239 | Titan8990, And I can't find the mdev program in the CD. |
| 21:35.52 | greycat | Hellmark[S10e]: You mean you're trying to ping it from the Internet? |
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| 21:38.05 | Titan8990_ | sigp239, its a part of busybox it looks like |
| 21:38.09 | Hellmark[S10e] | greycat, more or less |
| 21:38.23 | greycat | Hellmark[S10e]: what's the IP address of the interface that points toward the Internet? |
| 21:38.33 | Titan8990_ | sigp239, use MDEV=y when compiling busybox |
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| 21:38.38 | greycat | Hellmark[S10e]: if it's 10.* or 192.168.* or 172.16.* then it's probably NATed |
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| 21:39.27 | sigp239 | Titan8990, I have the busybox package already installed on my system. |
| 21:39.27 | abrotman | iandoh2: didn't they tell you awhile ago to use xrandr ? |
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| 21:39.52 | greycat | sigp239: if you're building your own modified Linux distribution, you're going to have to be comfortable building programs from source |
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| 21:41.24 | Titan8990_ | sigp239, yes, but it doesn't appear to be compiled in the debian version.... so what greycat said |
| 21:41.32 | greycat | Hellmark[S10e]: you can get the IP addresses of the box using "/sbin/ifconfig -a" |
| 21:41.41 | Hellmark[S10e] | greycat, the network with the internet is 10.1.1.0. Trying to ping from a another machine with 10.1.1.133 to the new network card (with IP of 10.1.1.92) |
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| 21:42.25 | greycat | Hellmark[S10e]: 10.* are non-routable addresses. They are reserved for private networks. If that's your Internet-facing interface, then you're behind a NAT, so your machine can't be reached FROM the internet, unless you tell your router/firewall to do special things. |
| 21:42.36 | wildc4rd | evening all |
| 21:42.45 | smacnay | is there a reference to backing up very large files to multiple (spanning) dvd discs? I am using gnome 2.28 in Deb sid. |
| 21:43.01 | sigp239 | Titan8990, I downloaded the source but it has no config or make file. I wouldn't know where to begin in order to compile it |
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| 21:43.44 | Hellmark[S10e] | but if they're both on the same network, and staying within that network, what about then |
| 21:44.05 | greycat | If they're both on the same local area network (e.g. using a switch or a hub) then they should be able to reach each other. |
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| 21:44.56 | babilen | smacnay: try multicd and change the disk size in the configuration file |
| 21:45.04 | Hellmark[S10e] | greycat, that is my thought,. |
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| 21:47.16 | smacnay | babilen, so not dvd? |
| 21:47.36 | smacnay | babilen, ah, multicd is an app |
| 21:47.37 | babilen | smacnay: what is the difference between a dvd and a cd? |
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| 21:47.50 | babilen | smacnay: yes :-D |
| 21:48.08 | babilen | smacnay: sorry, that might not have been obvious from the name :-) |
| 21:48.20 | greycat | Quite a lot of difference, actually. For one thing, DVDs come in a bewildering variety of types. |
| 21:48.36 | babilen | Hellmark[S10e]: no |
| 21:48.38 | greycat | DVD-R, DVD+R, DVD-RW, DVD+RW, dual-layer, blu-ray, ... |
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| 21:49.47 | smacnay | babilen, I thought it was an option in brasero - I thought I read that brasero could do multi disc spanning |
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| 21:49.54 | babilen | greycat: yes - but i think these details are left to the underlying toolchain multicd uses. I think it'll work if you just adapt the "cd" size in multicd's configuration file |
| 21:50.04 | greycat | hopefully ;-) |
| 21:50.17 | babilen | smacnay: Have a look. I just searched the archive... |
| 21:50.29 | smacnay | babilen, installed already |
| 21:50.38 | Titan8990_ | sigp239, well, i downloaded it too. it came with a Makefile, as well as README and INSTALL documentation |
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| 21:53.55 | sigp239 | Titan8990, Do I put MDEV=y inside the Makefile? |
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| 21:54.05 | Titan8990_ | sigp239, what does the documentation say? |
| 21:54.36 | sigp239 | Titan8990, Don't see anything in the docs regarding MDEV |
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| 21:55.34 | Titan8990_ | sigp239, are you just going to ignore the section of the section of the documentation on configuring? |
| 21:55.41 | Titan8990_ | err type fail |
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| 21:57.09 | quma | I've cleaned the apt cache and it's now empty. how can i re-download all installed .deb's? I'd like to create an cd repository with aptoncd and I need them again in my cache. |
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| 21:57.47 | sigp239 | Titan8990, yea, it says "Look into Makefile, you may need to change things to fit your env." .... |
| 21:58.14 | abrotman | quma: aptitude --download-only reinstall "~i~M" .. or something like that |
| 21:59.25 | quma | ok thanks for the hint, ill check man aptitude also, ty:)abrotman |
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| 22:00.19 | Titan8990_ | sigp239, FINE... i will spoonfeed some |
| 22:00.34 | Titan8990_ | sigp239, The manual configurator "make menuconfig" modifies the existing configuration. (For systems without ncurses, try "make config" instead.) The two most |
| 22:00.34 | Titan8990_ | interesting starting configurations are "make allnoconfig" (to start with |
| 22:00.34 | Titan8990_ | everything disabled and add just what you need), and "make defconfig" (to |
| 22:00.34 | Titan8990_ | start with everything enabled and remove what you don't need). If menuconfig is run without an existing configuration, make defconfig will run first to create a known starting point. |
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| 22:00.55 | Titan8990_ | well, looks like I missed some \n..... |
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| 22:01.21 | Titan8990_ | sigp239, "Configuring Busybox" in the INSTALL file.... |
| 22:01.46 | Cheaterman | Hi, seems like the business card format ISO image doesn't support USB keyboards, will the netinst ISO do or should I use a full ISO / DVD ISO ? |
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| 22:02.21 | adb | netinst ISO |
| 22:02.37 | Cheaterman | it will be enough ? |
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| 22:02.42 | Cheaterman | are you sure ? |
| 22:03.00 | adb | netinst ISO + net connection |
| 22:03.09 | sigp239 | Titan8990, What source are you looking at? I dont see any mention of configuring busybox in the INSTALL file |
| 22:03.17 | Cheaterman | okay |
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| 22:03.49 | sigmonsays | *evil guru* can a .deb contain special files and extract them appropriately? |
| 22:03.58 | sigmonsays | char and block devs? |
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| 22:07.30 | babilen | Cheaterman: How do you connect to the network? |
| 22:08.00 | Cheaterman | babilen: I already have been careful about this ;) it's ethernet don't worry |
| 22:08.09 | babilen | Cheaterman: Alright - Just checking :-) |
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| 22:08.22 | Cheaterman | babilen: thank you for paying attention anyway |
| 22:08.44 | babilen | Cheaterman: Enjoy the installation |
| 22:08.54 | Cheaterman | babilen: Thank you :) |
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| 22:13.26 | pigdude | My fresh Debian installation appears to be preventing MySQL from opening a socket, any idea why? I build MySQL from source. |
| 22:13.42 | HackeMate | Titan8990: finally i maked it to work by installing nvidia's driver instead module-assistant |
| 22:13.52 | HackeMate | was not my favourite solution but :/ |
| 22:13.58 | pigdude | everything path-wise is correct, but I get this error: "Can't start server : Bind on unix socket: Permission denied" |
| 22:14.08 | pigdude | and I'm running this as root |
| 22:14.14 | HackeMate | startx &> start.log just doesn't return nothing, because startx doesnt stop, it looks as working but failing |
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| 22:15.07 | buntfalke | where does debian store information about installed packages? |
| 22:15.15 | buntfalke | var lib dpkg status only? |
| 22:15.22 | simonrvn | /var/lib/dpkg/info |
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| 22:15.38 | buntfalke | ah, thanks |
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| 22:15.53 | simonrvn | that's install/remove scripts; the metadata is in status, and some in available |
| 22:16.14 | simonrvn | the last gets generated from updates |
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| 22:17.42 | amgarchIn9 | hi, I cannot find anything on release/support policy on the debian page. How long do you predict Lenny to be supported? |
| 22:18.37 | buntfalke | simonrvn: I have written some funky apt.conf which allows being run as a normal user (no locking, root-path prefixing etc) to allow running "apt-get install gcc" as a user, with the binary ending up somewhere in $home. |
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| 22:19.19 | buntfalke | simonrvn: though, when doing that, i get a list of missing deps listing all packages installed on the host system |
| 22:20.32 | macrobat_ | amgarchIn9: they dont set dates, i think it will be supported as oldstable |
| 22:20.49 | buntfalke | simonrvn: any idea how to fix that? |
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| 22:23.24 | simonrvn | buntfalke: um, you have 2 different systems there, basically. treat it as such. |
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| 22:23.59 | macrobat | how do i find the ip:s of other computers connected to my router? |
| 22:24.00 | buntfalke | simonrvn: Well, sure - but I dunno how to properly initialize the users system. |
| 22:24.30 | buntfalke | simonrvn: I have recreate the basic dir structure within $home/toolchain/... where everything is supposed to end up, but sth is missing... |
| 22:24.30 | d_b | macrobat: can you log in on the router? check attached devices or something similar then. |
| 22:24.37 | buntfalke | (chroot not possible) |
| 22:25.37 | amgarchIn9 | macrobat: type ip of the router into firefox address bar. |
| 22:25.44 | adb | buntfalke, looks like that : http://0install.net/ |
| 22:26.03 | simonrvn | macrobat: you allowing broadcast pings? check your arp table |
| 22:26.06 | buntfalke | not what i want, adb |
| 22:26.06 | amgarchIn9 | macrobat: oldstabe means support beyond new stable release? |
| 22:26.21 | simonrvn | !olstable |
| 22:26.25 | simonrvn | !oldstable |
| 22:26.25 | dpkg | [oldstable] the previous stable version of Debian, as long as it is still supported by the security team. Etch (4.0) is now oldstable. Ask me about <oldstable security> and consider upgrading your boxes from oldstable to stable (ask me about <oldstable->stable>). http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOldStable |
| 22:26.41 | macrobat | d_b:, amgarchIn9, i was looking for a cli solution, to scan. something to put in a script |
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| 22:27.24 | simonrvn | macrobat: does it (the router) have snmp? |
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| 22:28.46 | pigdude | are either SELinux or AppArmor installed with Debian (5.0)? |
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| 22:29.14 | simonrvn | apparmor is ubuntu only |
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| 22:29.27 | buntfalke | how to list all pkg with "Priority: required"? |
| 22:29.37 | pigdude | simonrvn, so SELinux is not present? |
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| 22:30.09 | d_b | macrobat: I don't have a clue what I'm talking about but at least my router gives out addresses like 192.168.0.2 then 3 at the end and so on. couldn't you just ping the addresses and see what works and what doesn't? |
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| 22:30.38 | simonrvn | pigdude: didn't say that. it's quite supported, but not installed by default. |
| 22:30.49 | pigdude | simonrvn, OK, thanks |
| 22:31.17 | macrobat | hmm, default wrt54gl is not suposed to have snmp, i can find any, anyway |
| 22:31.32 | pigdude | something on my system is preventing MySQL from binding to a socket and I can't quite figure out what |
| 22:32.14 | macrobat | i'd like to do something like "nmap --get-ip-of-other-comp" |
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| 22:33.37 | simonrvn | pigdude: another mysql process? the configuration? |
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| 22:36.37 | peleczek__ | hello |
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| 22:37.55 | peleczek__ | i have installed debian without x. i've installed x manualy and got no sound for user only for root. should i add user to some group or something? |
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| 22:38.46 | adb | yes in audio |
| 22:38.55 | KTL2 | how can a user restart networking (get a dhcp lease) without root access? (mounting goes with pmount/pumount, is there an analogue way for networking? ) |
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| 22:39.43 | pigdude | simonrvn, fixed, appeared to be a permissions issue (mysql user writes the PID file, I didn't know that) |
| 22:39.58 | simonrvn | pigdude: \o/ |
| 22:40.10 | pigdude | \O/ |
| 22:40.23 | pigdude | \0/ |
| 22:40.29 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:40.56 | pigdude | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.13 | KTL2 | mmm (look a question right above the ascii show :D ) |
| 22:41.26 | pigdude | KTL2, sorry :) |
| 22:41.35 | KTL2 | hehe |
| 22:41.55 | pigdude | KTL2, the least you could've done was continued the drawing :) |
| 22:41.59 | KTL2 | but euhm how is a laptop user supposed to get networking working if he plugs in on some random network? |
| 22:42.12 | KTL2 | and then get kicked for spamming yes :) |
| 22:42.49 | KTL2 | gone for half an hour :) |
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| 22:44.43 | adb | judd, versions sysutils |
| 22:44.44 | judd | adb: sysutils -- etch: 2.0.1 |
| 22:45.41 | sassyn | How can i write a udev rule to run only once |
| 22:46.34 | Titan8990 | sigp239: source i downloaded from busybox.net.... |
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| 22:48.02 | jeward | I'm trying to set up a debian mirror, but amd getting the following error from debmirror: rsync: getaddrinfo: mirrors2.debian.org 873: Name or service not known |
| 22:48.14 | jeward | I can rsync from that host fine. |
| 22:48.55 | jeward | Oh, wait... |
| 22:49.07 | Titan8990 | jeward: usually a lot easier to just use apt-mirror |
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| 22:49.24 | jeward | I typoed the servername. |
| 22:49.29 | jeward | How is it easier? |
| 22:50.27 | Titan8990 | uhh because you only have to run `apt-mirror`? |
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| 22:50.57 | Titan8990 | unless you are looking to set up a push-pull mirror i suppose |
| 22:51.14 | jeward | No, I just want two architecrures and two distributions. |
| 22:51.25 | Titan8990 | you mean two branches? |
| 22:51.30 | jeward | Probably? :) |
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| 22:51.44 | d_b | I forgot to prioritize stable over unstable when attempting to do apt-pinning, then I did "aptitude safe-upgrade" (don't ask me why) and after a while I pressed CTRL+C to terminate it. How can I see if it had time to start updating packages? |
| 22:51.47 | jeward | Pull mirror is just fine. |
| 22:52.00 | Titan8990 | !apt-mirror |
| 22:52.01 | dpkg | i guess apt-mirror is a tool for making a local mirror of any apt source. To mirror multiple architectures, specify "deb-$arch ..." in /etc/apt/mirror.list; e.g. "deb-amd64 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free". Discussion forum: http://sf.net/projects/apt-mirror/forums/forum/197335 . http://apt-mirror.sf.net/ See also <debian mirrors>. |
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| 22:52.49 | jeward | I want to do main daily and security and volatile more often. |
| 22:52.57 | jeward | Can apt-mirror do that? |
| 22:53.32 | edugonch | Hello, I don't if I need to ask this here, but, I'm trying to install the symphony framework in my debian machine, but using subversion, I just need to run this comand ==> svn pe svn:externals lib/vendor/ || but when I do I get this error ==> svn svn:externals 'lib/vendor/' is not a work copy |
| 22:53.45 | edugonch | What am I doing wrong? |
| 22:53.55 | tictac | hmm for some reason my ud package is borked and i cant remove/purge it |
| 22:53.59 | tictac | http://inetpro.org/pastebin/71 |
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| 23:01.42 | aixenv | for some odd reason that 2.6.30 iso doesnt load on our systems |
| 23:01.56 | aixenv | we tried 3 dif cds and two dif ppl downloading |
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| 23:08.33 | nse | Hello everyone. I did 'fdisk /dev/sda1', deleted partition#2 and then printed the partition table - for my surprise other 7 partitions disappeared from the table. What's happening? Why these 7 partitions are not appearing anymore if I did not remove them? Is this a problem with fdisk? I am using Debian amd64 architecture which is new to me. I don't know what to do. Can someone help me? |
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| 23:10.50 | racecar56 | my CD drive keeps popping open, what should i do? this is a laptop |
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| 23:18.58 | nse | This is it /dev/sda2 123 17265 137701147+ 5 Extended. I've checked and the problem don't happen when I attempt to remove other partitions? |
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| 23:23.07 | jpinx-eeepc | were they primary or logical partitions? |
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| 23:23.51 | jpinx-eeepc | nse: ^^ |
| 23:25.07 | nse | jpinx-eeepc: They were logical partitions. |
| 23:26.23 | jpinx-eeepc | nse: were they based on the primary one you deleted? |
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| 23:26.59 | jpinx-eeepc | nse: 'cos if you delete the primary that contains the logical - you lose the logical as well |
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| 23:27.47 | nse | jpinx-eeepc: I think that is not happening because there's only one primary partition there which is the first. |
| 23:27.56 | jpinx-eeepc | nse: re-write the partition table with *exactly* the same informationa s before and you should get everything back." |
| 23:28.01 | nse | This particular one I am trying to remove is #2. |
| 23:28.05 | tonyd | I just tried to install the updates and it gave me the error "invoke-rc.d: Unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/-query not found" and now the libc6 package is broken and I can't seem to get the issue resolved |
| 23:28.43 | jpinx-eeepc | nse: your partition #2 was a primary and contained the logical ones? |
| 23:28.43 | llimeht | tonyd: check the bts |
| 23:28.57 | tonyd | what is bts |
| 23:29.05 | jpinx-eeepc | !bts |
| 23:29.06 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
| 23:29.31 | nse | jpinx-eeepc: No. |
| 23:29.41 | tonyd | I found bug reports but no solution to resolve the issue |
| 23:29.53 | llimeht | tonyd: welcome to sid. |
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| 23:30.01 | jpinx-eeepc | nse: no what? |
| 23:30.32 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell tonyd about sid |
| 23:30.52 | nse | jpinx-eeepc: The thing is that I am trying to format this partition with ext3 but mkfs.ext3 is complaining about: "mkfs.ext3: inode_size (128) * inodes_count (0) too big for a filesystem with 0 blocks, specify higher inode_ratio (-i) or lower inode count (-N)." |
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| 23:31.07 | llimeht | !dbugs 555463 |
| 23:31.12 | dpkg | #555463:G[libc6] libc6: Upgrade to 2.10.1-6 fails with "/etc/init.d/-query not found" (pending patch); Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:36:04 UTC [555469 555644] |
| 23:31.19 | nse | jpinx-eeepc: Partition #2 is not a primary partition. |
| 23:31.30 | jpinx-eeepc | nse: well if you have progressed that far you can forget the data now |
| 23:31.30 | llimeht | tonyd: ^^ as you will know from your browsing of the bts, there are solutions in that bug report. Or just wait until its fixed. |
| 23:31.58 | tonyd | is there a way for me to revert to the old version, since the bug seems to be in the upgrade to the new version. And I thought I had lenny? confused |
| 23:32.05 | jpinx-eeepc | nse: so what are you trying to do? |
| 23:32.23 | jpinx-eeepc | tonyd: there is no downgrading |
| 23:32.31 | jpinx-eeepc | !downgrade |
| 23:32.33 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. Also see <partial downgrade>, or <sdn>, or <unstable->testing> |
| 23:32.40 | nse | jpinx-eeepc: I am trying to format a partition. |
| 23:32.44 | llimeht | tonyd: you definitely do not have lenny at this stage. |
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| 23:33.17 | jpinx-eeepc | tonyd: you may backup your data and install lenny ;) |
| 23:33.18 | llimeht | tonyd: perhaps you should pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy" so we can see what you're actually running. |
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| 23:33.32 | tonyd | How do I get lenny? I dounloaded the stable version net inst |
| 23:33.56 | leoventura | !lenny |
| 23:33.57 | tonyd | how do I pastebin |
| 23:33.57 | dpkg | lenny is, like, the binoculars, or the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 5.0, released on 2009-02-14: http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090214 Ask me about <release notes>, <install debian>, <etch->lenny>, <installer firmware>. Currently <5.0.3>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny |
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| 23:34.11 | jpinx-eeepc | nse: format? you mean write the partition table or create a filesystem? |
| 23:34.13 | nse | jpinx-eeepc: It is confusing because I didn't tell you that I read in a web site that is a good idea to remove it and them create the partition the be formatted with fdisk. |
| 23:34.39 | nse | jpinx-eeepc: To create a filesystem. |
| 23:35.10 | nse | I mean removing and creating before formatting. |
| 23:35.10 | jpinx-eeepc | nse: create the partition, mount it, mkfs |
| 23:35.21 | tonyd | !pastebin |
| 23:35.22 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>. |
| 23:35.30 | nse | Ok, gimme a second. |
| 23:35.41 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell tony about selftell |
| 23:36.08 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell tony about pastebinit |
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| 23:37.10 | tonyd | http://pastebin.com/m27117c8 |
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| 23:38.02 | tonyd | There it is! |
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| 23:38.27 | nse | jpinx-eeepc: How can I guess which filesystem is there so I can mount it? |
| 23:38.29 | jpinx-eeepc | tonyd: nice mess - mixed lenny and sid |
| 23:38.40 | tonyd | How did I do that? |
| 23:38.54 | jpinx-eeepc | nse: file /dev/sdb2 or whatever |
| 23:39.03 | tonyd | I have installed all files from package manager |
| 23:39.24 | nse | jpinx-eeepc: It tells me block special. |
| 23:39.40 | jpinx-eeepc | nse: nofilesystem present |
| 23:39.48 | tonyd | can I "fix" it? reinstall? |
| 23:39.55 | nse | I still can't mount it. |
| 23:40.00 | tonyd | What is the best option? |
| 23:40.05 | nse | Mount is complaining - what a mess. |
| 23:40.07 | jpinx-eeepc | tonyd: any data involved? |
| 23:40.16 | tonyd | none. |
| 23:40.25 | nse | jpinx-eeepc: Is it needed to mount it before formatting? |
| 23:40.26 | jpinx-eeepc | tonyd: if you have no data - re-install -- carefully! |
| 23:40.28 | tonyd | I just installed it yesterday |
| 23:40.59 | llimeht | tonyd: reinstall is easiest then. If the machine were valuable then you could "/msg dpkg partial downgrade" and hope that it worked, but that's not worth it in this situation |
| 23:41.08 | jpinx-eeepc | nse paste the output of fdisk -l |
| 23:41.23 | jpinx-eeepc | nods |
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| 23:41.47 | tonyd | Okay, so when I am told to add to the repositories, I should change sid to lenny in the url? |
| 23:42.03 | jpinx-eeepc | tonyd: you are installing lenny only |
| 23:42.29 | nse | This is it: http://pastebin.com/d5a77277 |
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| 23:42.49 | tonyd | but when I tried to get the adobe plugin I had to add that line with the sid in it to my repositories |
| 23:43.02 | tonyd | maybe it was bad advice? |
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| 23:43.35 | jpinx-eeepc | it certainly was |
| 23:43.38 | jeeves_moss | how can I mount a .ISO so that APT will find it as the local copy? |
| 23:43.41 | llimeht | tonyd: no, there are other much better ways. Either use backports.org or debian-multimedia.org. No need dor those sid lines. |
| 23:43.53 | nse | Partitions #4-9 disappear after removing #2. |
| 23:44.07 | tonyd | okay. Thank you! |
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| 23:44.20 | jpinx-eeepc | nse: which hdrive? sda or sdb? |
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| 23:44.35 | nse | jpinx-eeepc: sda |
| 23:45.01 | jpinx-eeepc | nse: I told you already 2 contains the rest so when you delete 2 you lose the rest |
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| 23:45.15 | jpinx-eeepc | nse: read up about types of partitions and how they work |
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| 23:48.03 | nse | Ok, jpinx-eeepc. Thank you very much for the help. |
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| 23:48.44 | jpinx-eeepc | nse: np |
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| 23:50.05 | abrocadabro | Hi I have a working RAID1 mirror setup, I needed to use two disks at the same time on different machines, so I unplugged one from the mirror and plugged it in a different machine, I am wondering what would I need to do so they will sync? |
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