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| 00:02.22 | abrocadabro | aixenv: you can put it in /lib/modules/$kernel-version/... and depmod and mkinitrd |
| 00:04.02 | aixenv | ok so i could extract the installer iso, and pkg it into that dir? |
| 00:04.31 | aixenv | this is on a new system though there's no install currently |
| 00:04.38 | aixenv | im thinking i can do it during install |
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| 00:04.53 | petemc | why do you need to add megaraid sas? the installer supports it already |
| 00:05.11 | aixenv | it doesn't find our raid card |
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| 00:05.27 | aixenv | with our installer cd, and we tried that whatever.jp cd and none of those would boot at all |
| 00:05.36 | petemc | dell? |
| 00:05.42 | aixenv | yes |
| 00:05.50 | petemc | which model? |
| 00:05.59 | aixenv | 2959 |
| 00:06.00 | aixenv | erm |
| 00:06.02 | aixenv | 2950 |
| 00:06.12 | petemc | im running a half dozen of those |
| 00:06.21 | petemc | no issues |
| 00:06.38 | aixenv | lsi megaraid 9260 8i (they have no built in driver on the website either for deb, just sles, centos, freebsd, etc) |
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| 00:07.51 | aixenv | im under the impress 2.6.30 has support for that, but i cant get an iso with that kernel working on install |
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| 00:08.00 | fixUp | Just wanted to know if anyone has had any experience in installing debian on an HP DL180 ? |
| 00:08.15 | llimeht | !laptop |
| 00:08.16 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about Linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org/mylaptops.html . For Thinkpads, ask me about <thinkpad>. Also ask me about <acpi>, <laptop mode>, <netbook>, <suspend>. http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn . See also the debian-laptop mailing list: http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
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| 00:08.46 | petemc | aixenv: the installer should have megaraid_sas , which cd are you using? |
| 00:09.14 | aixenv | petemc: well a 64bit lenny iso we did some mods to the d-i to |
| 00:10.05 | aixenv | i tried grabbin that something.jp whatever debian 2.6.30 iso you guys advertise here and that wouldnt boot |
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| 00:10.48 | petemc | aixenv: did you try an unmodified lenny iso ? |
| 00:11.23 | aixenv | i could grab this again http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.3/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 00:11.25 | aixenv | petemc: yes |
| 00:11.34 | oblio | sup |
| 00:11.42 | aixenv | it is a newer iso, sept 09 |
| 00:11.42 | oblio | anyone know anything about nvidia only supporting 24bit color? |
| 00:11.46 | aixenv | lemme wget that rq |
| 00:11.49 | aixenv | and rebuild it |
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| 00:12.02 | petemc | rebuild it? |
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| 00:12.30 | aixenv | we have custom post inst stuff we add, nothing that'd be related to this problem, plus i slipstreamed the install so there's no need to input any data |
| 00:12.41 | aixenv | click "enter" to start install and then come back once its done |
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| 00:15.31 | aixenv | ill letcha know im wgetting that sept09 iso |
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| 00:17.00 | petemc | zcat /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-686 | cpio -t | grep megaraid_sas |
| 00:17.00 | petemc | lib/modules/2.6.26-2-686/kernel/drivers/scsi/megaraid/megaraid_sas.ko |
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| 00:17.09 | rdvonz | I'm trying to install an external hdd via usb. |
| 00:17.20 | rdvonz | I tried mounting it and it said "not found in /etc/mtab/ |
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| 00:17.36 | rdvonz | I reformatted the drive to a linux primary partition. |
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| 00:25.45 | mjmt | rdvonz: Did you make a filesystem within the partition? |
| 00:25.51 | Lns | rdvonz: look at your dmesg file in /var/log and look for the device name of your usb drive |
| 00:26.20 | rdvonz | mjmt: I don't think so |
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| 00:30.12 | dutchfish | hi, i have tried to get distcc going on debian/squeeze even altering update-alternatives for CC, followed all the README.DEBIAN of distcc and daemons are running, still make-kpkg does not use distcc, how to solve? |
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| 00:31.01 | mjmt | rdvonz: You'll need to use mkfs.ext3 or one of the other mkfs.* commands. |
| 00:31.10 | roland- | hey, I am trying to install openoffice via backports, did -t lenny-backports install openoffice but it complains about unmet dependencies, can't it solev dependencies? |
| 00:32.01 | rdvonz | mjmt: I used mkfs /dev/sda1 |
| 00:32.03 | rdvonz | Good idea? |
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| 00:33.59 | roland- | nvm find it myself |
| 00:34.04 | roland- | found |
| 00:34.49 | mjmt | Dunno, if that works. |
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| 00:35.06 | mjmt | You sure /dev/sda1 isn't your main drive? |
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| 00:35.44 | rdvonz | mjmt: Yes. |
| 00:35.53 | rdvonz | mjmt: it shows up as 1000 gb |
| 00:36.02 | mjmt | Phew. /dev/sda1's mine. :) |
| 00:36.40 | mjmt | Ok well if you've made a filesystem, see if it mounts now. |
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| 00:37.14 | rdvonz | mjmt: Wait, why would lenny even let you reformat a main drive? |
| 00:37.26 | mjmt | Thought you were doing this manually. |
| 00:37.53 | dondelelcaro | rdvonz: if you want to shoot yourself in the foot, you can. |
| 00:37.54 | rdvonz | I'm doing it through the cli, It's a server |
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| 00:38.08 | mjmt | dondelelcaro: Well said. :) |
| 00:38.14 | rdvonz | writing inode tables: 2000/7453 |
| 00:38.42 | dondelelcaro | isn't sure if it will warn you if you're formating a mounted filesystem, but it wouldn't surprise me if it didn't |
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| 00:39.33 | Lns | says: Don't ever expect LInux to ask you permission to do something you already told it to do |
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| 00:42.07 | rdvonz_ | I... I think I might have done mkfs on the wrong drive.... |
| 00:42.08 | rdvonz_ | http://pastebin.com/m52131d7d |
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| 00:49.03 | mjmt | rdvonz_: That doesn't show whether the partitions have valid filesystems on them. Just try mounting, if it succeeds with you only specifying device and mountpoint, you're done. |
| 00:49.33 | rdvonz_ | mjmt It gave me a "permission denied" error |
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| 00:53.57 | mjmt | As root? |
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| 00:55.11 | rdvonz_ | mjmt: of course |
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| 00:56.36 | mjmt | rdvonz_: Yeah I think you did mkfs on the wrong drive. |
| 00:56.51 | rdvonz_ | mjmt: ...what would that do? |
| 00:56.57 | rdvonz_ | mjmt: anything particularly bad? |
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| 00:57.45 | rdvonz_ | Here's the error I get when mounting the drive: mount: can't find /dev/sda1/ in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab |
| 00:58.25 | mjmt | Pretty sure it'll have borked the drive you did do it to, data's recoverable though. |
| 00:58.36 | kermit | rdvonz_: /dev/sda1 not /dev/sda1/ |
| 00:58.43 | rdvonz_ | mjmt It didn't do anything, |
| 00:58.50 | rdvonz_ | everything on the drive is intact. |
| 00:59.05 | rdvonz_ | same error |
| 00:59.05 | rdvonz_ | DELUGE:/home/deluge# mount /dev/sda1 mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab |
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| 00:59.29 | kermit | rdvonz_: then specify where to mount it |
| 00:59.56 | rdvonz_ | kermit: uh, how? |
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| 01:00.00 | kermit | mount dev path |
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| 01:11.21 | aixenv | damn it |
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| 01:11.39 | aixenv | i have a "detect your disks" list and i tried 'megaraid' and 'megaraid_sas' and neither work |
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| 01:12.24 | petemc | aixenv: what do you mean you tried? you shouldnt have to do anything |
| 01:12.32 | aixenv | well dude it's prompting |
| 01:13.00 | aixenv | "no disk is detected. if you know the name of the driver.. you can select it from the list" and there's a pulldown |
| 01:13.21 | petemc | this is your remastered disk? |
| 01:13.27 | aixenv | no this is the original |
| 01:13.32 | petemc | wfm |
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| 01:14.11 | aixenv | debian installer main menu > detect disks and nada |
| 01:14.35 | petemc | yeah, i dont remember ever being prompted, it just did the right thing |
| 01:14.44 | aixenv | do you have the same raid card? |
| 01:14.49 | petemc | perc5 |
| 01:14.55 | aixenv | we're not using a perc |
| 01:15.03 | petemc | perc = dell rebranded lsi |
| 01:15.11 | aixenv | i know |
| 01:15.14 | nse | Hi. I added two devices to /etc/fstab usign UUID. At boot now the system will complain during filesystem check with fsck 'Unable to resolve [four UUID's here]'. fsck exits with status 8. The filesystem is not repaired automatically and when I go to a maintenance shell I cant do it manually either. fsck -cp doesn't to the job. I don't know what to do. Can someone help me? |
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| 01:15.32 | petemc | so you have a poweredge, but its not using perc? |
| 01:16.06 | aixenv | we're trying a raid card we use with our esx servers, that's better than the perc5i/6i, |
| 01:16.23 | petemc | oh, then disregard what i said |
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| 01:19.46 | nse | It seems that those UUID which can't be resolver belong to fundamental devices that are mounted on /usr /var/ /tmp and something else. These devices are inside a Extended partition and it seems that this Extended is not doing its job which is to put the others out. I've figured this through printing the partition table with fdisk. |
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| 01:36.02 | rumpsy | Why dpkg is not replying me? |
| 01:36.17 | nse | and a very curious thing: GRUB turned into that old layout. something happened to the MBR. I need help. Can someone help me? |
| 01:36.25 | aixenv | i cant believe this raid card wont work |
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| 01:37.06 | aixenv | the centos driver has the same freakin name as the one on the debian disk |
| 01:37.08 | aixenv | ./tarball/dkms_main_tree/2.6.18-128.el5/x86_64/module/megaraid_sas.ko |
| 01:37.39 | abrotman | it doesn't mean they have the same patches applied |
| 01:37.52 | abrotman | rumpsy: you didn't try to do anything with the bot |
| 01:38.55 | rumpsy | abrotman:why? |
| 01:39.18 | aixenv | i wonder if i can use d-i/early_command to copy the centos version to the kernel/drivers/scsi dir, |
| 01:39.19 | abrotman | rumpsy: you're on the bot's ignore list for abusing the bot |
| 01:39.29 | aixenv | i tried just loading it via insmod/modprobe and that didnt work either |
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| 01:40.57 | rumpsy | oh, nothing i did to bot... :( |
| 01:41.13 | rumpsy | Please remove my name from list.. |
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| 01:42.12 | abrotman | rumpsy: you did lots of stuff to the bot, sorry |
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| 01:42.42 | nse | My Extended partition is hiding its content. I can't view partitions which are needed for the boot process inside it. Is there something I can do to go round this? |
| 01:43.09 | rumpsy | oh... i'm sure this will not happen in future :) |
| 01:43.15 | abrotman | you are? |
| 01:43.19 | abrotman | what will not happen? |
| 01:43.43 | rumpsy | i will disturb dpkg without reason |
| 01:44.00 | abrotman | sorry, too late, you were asked to not abuse the bot, you persisted |
| 01:44.14 | abrotman | rumpsy: if you have a Debian support question, please ask it |
| 01:44.26 | aixenv | man i cant believe i cant get this raid card recognized |
| 01:44.34 | rumpsy | oh sorry i will not disturb dpkg without reason |
| 01:44.40 | abrotman | aixenv: did you try the kmuto installer |
| 01:44.44 | abrotman | rumpsy: if you have a Debian support question, please ask it |
| 01:44.46 | aixenv | i cantd BELIEVE this stupid raid card has freebsd. solaris , centos, sles, rhes, windows drivers and no ubuntu/debian /cry |
| 01:44.47 | nse | abrot, I do have one. Please help me. |
| 01:44.54 | aixenv | abrotan: yes we coudllnt even get that to boot |
| 01:45.05 | aixenv | i tried the net install one adn the 514ish meg one |
| 01:45.07 | abrotman | nse: yes, but i don't think that's normally a problem |
| 01:45.07 | rumpsy | Sorry, i'm gonna leave |
| 01:45.09 | aixenv | erm sorry abrotman |
| 01:45.14 | abrotman | aixenv: the kmuto one ? |
| 01:45.17 | aixenv | aye |
| 01:45.22 | aixenv | kmuto.jp or whatever right |
| 01:45.35 | abrotman | aixenv: okay.. is this like a PERC2 ? |
| 01:45.46 | aixenv | LSI Megaraid 9260 8i |
| 01:46.02 | abrotman | so it's pretty new? do you have a PCIID ? |
| 01:46.02 | rares | would debian having config files that use YAML be feasible? |
| 01:46.22 | aixenv | http://www.lsi.com/storage_home/products_home/internal_raid/megaraid_sas/6gb_s_value_line/sas9260-8i/ |
| 01:46.24 | nse | abrotman: I do believe it is because the system can't find files inside it. |
| 01:46.43 | aixenv | whats the link on kmuto agian |
| 01:46.45 | abrotman | nse: this would be easy to check .. |
| 01:46.45 | aixenv | !kmuto |
| 01:46.46 | dpkg | For Debian Lenny (or Etch) installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ . The included <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files in 0627 images are required to be moved prior to network hardware detection, see comments of http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2630-lenny.htm |
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| 01:47.25 | nse | abrotman: What do you mean? |
| 01:47.27 | simonrvn | rares: depends on the package mostly |
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| 01:47.58 | abrotman | nse: move the partition to a logical partitoin |
| 01:47.58 | aixenv | abroman this right here right? http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/2.6.30/lenny-custom-0627.iso |
| 01:48.09 | abrotman | aixenv: do you have a PCIID for the device ? |
| 01:48.44 | aixenv | abrotman: we'd need to pull the card correct? |
| 01:48.54 | aixenv | if so ill have the DC guy do it |
| 01:48.56 | abrotman | aixenv: lspci -nn |
| 01:49.01 | aixenv | ok lemme try that |
| 01:49.01 | abrotman | oh .. datacenter ? |
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| 01:49.23 | aixenv | well there's no install but i should be able to do it froma shell |
| 01:49.45 | abrotman | from the installer should work i believe |
| 01:49.46 | aixenv | one sec booting, give that for ya in a sec |
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| 01:49.48 | aixenv | k |
| 01:50.17 | nse | abrotman: Can I do this via fdisk? |
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| 01:51.13 | abrotman | nse: not sure you can just move it .. do you have data on the disk that you care about ? |
| 01:51.59 | nse | abrotman: Yes. In reality it is my system. It just dones't boot. I am typing from a laptop. |
| 01:52.13 | aixenv | here we go |
| 01:52.34 | abrotman | nse: i'm pretty sure grub can boot from extended partitions |
| 01:52.51 | simonrvn | in fact i know so |
| 01:52.58 | aixenv | 08:00.0 RAID bus controller [0104]: LSI Logic / Symbios Logic Device [1000:007 (rev03) |
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| 01:53.21 | abrotman | i think you missed a few characters |
| 01:53.22 | aixenv | erm wait maybe it isnt recognizing the card, checking another server one sec |
| 01:53.29 | abrotman | shuld be more like 1234:1234 |
| 01:53.34 | nse | abrotman: This extended has /var /tmp /usr and a swap. Root dir is in another. |
| 01:53.41 | Dawgmatix | are there any python based apis for accessing the apt hierarchy ? |
| 01:53.41 | aixenv | ill pipe it to a file |
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| 01:54.37 | valdyn | !tell Dawgmatix -about search |
| 01:54.53 | aixenv | bah no vi |
| 01:55.33 | Dawgmatix | valdyn - did you miss the api bit ? |
| 01:55.35 | aixenv | i have ea feeling that isnt the megaraid card |
| 01:55.40 | aixenv | dc guy said the perc has bene pulled out |
| 01:55.45 | aixenv | checking bios |
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| 01:55.58 | valdyn | Dawgmatix: no |
| 01:57.56 | Dawgmatix | parsing apt-cache output is the recommended way to build tools that must know about package hierarchies ? |
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| 01:59.12 | rares | are people drifting back toward local apps as opposed to google / flickr |
| 01:59.28 | valdyn | rares: like what? |
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| 01:59.45 | rares | evolution |
| 01:59.46 | franki^ | me doesn't have a local replacement for google :( |
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| 01:59.49 | franki^ | doesn't have a local replacement for google :( |
| 01:59.52 | franki^ | oops :P |
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| 02:00.00 | nse | I think I am going to reinstall everything. I was a newbie concerning partition types at the time of partitioning. |
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| 02:00.46 | nse | I would like an advice. I would like to to different partitions to /urs,/tmç |
| 02:00.52 | abrotman | nse: why ? |
| 02:00.57 | nse | .. abd such. |
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| 02:01.11 | nse | This keyboard is terrible. |
| 02:01.30 | nse | abrotman: Because I can't go round this. Can you help me? |
| 02:01.54 | abrotman | nse: i meant .. why do you want different partitions for those ? |
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| 02:02.34 | simonrvn | you can't reoder the partitions? oh, wait, maybe you can'r reoder ms-dos type partitions properly? |
| 02:02.42 | simonrvn | reorder* |
| 02:02.53 | simonrvn | re-oder :P |
| 02:03.20 | franki^ | re-order* :P |
| 02:03.51 | simonrvn | lazy typing |
| 02:04.02 | franki^ | (but actually, reorder is fine, i just added that for comic effect) |
| 02:04.26 | simonrvn | :) |
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| 02:07.17 | nse | abrotman: Because in the Debian Installer there is an option called guided partitioning. And there they suggest it's a good idea to have partitions like this. Based on this I did that. |
| 02:07.37 | nse | But I do not have a strong reason really. I did it by faith. |
| 02:08.25 | abrotman | if the installer did it .. it should have worked |
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| 02:08.50 | simonrvn | indeed |
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| 02:09.50 | ksnp | hi what is the appropriate package to install java, there is this jre and the jdk |
| 02:10.02 | ksnp | does jdk include jre ? + some devel stuff ? |
| 02:10.10 | nse | abrotman: But I didn't left it it do it. I just got the idea and implemented it to a two hard disks system. That's my case. If there was a guided partitioning that could deal with both disks then I would definitively go it. |
| 02:10.16 | abrotman | oh |
| 02:10.26 | abrotman | ksnp: yes |
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| 02:11.11 | ksnp | ok, thanks |
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| 02:11.51 | nse | abrotman: is there a problem to mount the root dir on a hd and home on another hd? |
| 02:12.17 | abrotman | nope |
| 02:12.24 | nse | abrotman: Can I create a lot of primary partitions in one disk? |
| 02:12.33 | adb | 4 |
| 02:13.03 | nse | abrotman: Is the role of logical and extended partitions something limited to the windows/dos point of view? |
| 02:13.14 | simonrvn | nse: yes |
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| 02:13.38 | simonrvn | nse: it's a type of partition table/map |
| 02:13.54 | TrueDD | Gnight to all |
| 02:14.36 | simonrvn | g'night |
| 02:14.36 | nse | good night |
| 02:14.53 | TrueDD | gnight simonrvn & nse |
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| 02:15.12 | simonrvn | waits for his inkscape .deb build to finish |
| 02:15.30 | aixenv | this is rediculous |
| 02:15.34 | aixenv | screams |
| 02:15.48 | aixenv | someone is anti debian |
| 02:15.59 | aixenv | stupid hw |
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| 02:16.37 | simonrvn | aixenv: probably some firmware issue and/or the megaraid driver doesn't support that card yet. |
| 02:16.47 | abrotman | i did ask for the pciid |
| 02:16.48 | aixenv | i guess sadly... |
| 02:16.56 | aixenv | abrotman i couldnt get it, it kept truncating |
| 02:17.00 | aixenv | unless you have an idea how to get it? |
| 02:17.01 | ksnp | for installing java is it better to get the package sun-java6-bin and sun-java-jdk or get the bin from the java website and create a package yourself using dkpg -i ? |
| 02:17.04 | nse | Then I am goind to create a partition to / and another to /home. If I have 100 GB of free space. How many GB would be a good idea to reserve to / only? |
| 02:17.19 | abrotman | aixenv: truncating where ? |
| 02:17.21 | aixenv | lspci -nn was cutting it off after 3 num |
| 02:17.24 | aixenv | in the ipkvvm |
| 02:17.29 | simonrvn | COLUMNS=200 lspci -nn :P |
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| 02:17.42 | aixenv | ah yea good idea, |
| 02:17.43 | simonrvn | ksnp: the former |
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| 02:18.14 | simonrvn | *shrug* - sometimes works |
| 02:18.38 | ksnp | ok, thanks |
| 02:19.03 | ksnp | simonrvn, is that because they are better packaged - are they normally updated as soon as new jdk is available ? |
| 02:19.06 | nse | 10% of disk to /? |
| 02:19.20 | ultralazer | ls -l |
| 02:19.23 | ultralazer | ls -l |
| 02:19.26 | simonrvn | ksnp: bit of both |
| 02:19.35 | ultralazer | i mean wait thi isn't the terminal on the laptop |
| 02:19.36 | ksnp | ok |
| 02:19.42 | simonrvn | ultralazer: the *other* window ;) |
| 02:19.42 | aixenv | that doesnt work either |
| 02:19.42 | ultralazer | oops |
| 02:19.50 | aixenv | it just shows [1000-007 |
| 02:20.27 | nse | simonrvn: Is 10% of disks a good aount for / only? |
| 02:20.28 | simonrvn | bug in lspci? |
| 02:20.42 | aixenv | lemme pipe the output to a flash |
| 02:20.47 | aixenv | and see what it looks like in another editor |
| 02:20.50 | nse | Sorry fot the mistyping - I am not used to this laptop |
| 02:21.06 | abrotman | aixenv: pipe the output to a file .. then cat the output ? |
| 02:21.11 | aixenv | tried that |
| 02:21.17 | aixenv | same "formatting" |
| 02:21.38 | abrotman | aixenv: moment |
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| 02:21.46 | simonrvn | depending on the type of install (server, desktop, workstation) i give minimum 1 GB to /, to about 5 GB. gives you leeway .. |
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| 02:22.03 | abrotman | aixenv: if you 'lspci -n | grep 08:00.0' .. do you get anything more useful ? |
| 02:22.17 | simonrvn | does it in size, not percentages |
| 02:22.22 | abrotman | simonrvn: also depends on the other partitions |
| 02:22.25 | aixenv | yes good call abrot |
| 02:22.39 | aixenv | 08:00.0 0104: 1000:0079 (rev 03) |
| 02:22.41 | abrotman | loses his manhood |
| 02:22.46 | aixenv | cheers |
| 02:22.48 | abrotman | judd: pciid 1000:0079 |
| 02:22.49 | judd | abrotman: [1000:0079] is 'LSI MegaSAS 9260' from 'LSI Logic / Symbios Logic' with no known kernel module in lenny but has kernel module 'megaraid_sas' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1000:0079 |
| 02:22.53 | abrotman | judd: you lie! |
| 02:22.53 | judd | abrotman: Error: "you" is not a valid command. |
| 02:22.59 | aixenv | judd: you suck |
| 02:22.59 | judd | aixenv: Error: "you" is not a valid command. |
| 02:23.05 | aixenv | cries |
| 02:23.09 | simonrvn | aixenv: of course |
| 02:23.14 | simonrvn | abrotman: of course |
| 02:23.20 | simonrvn | aixenv: sorry, bad tab |
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| 02:23.29 | aixenv | judd: pciid 1000:0079 |
| 02:23.30 | judd | aixenv: [1000:0079] is 'LSI MegaSAS 9260' from 'LSI Logic / Symbios Logic' with no known kernel module in lenny but has kernel module 'megaraid_sas' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1000:0079 |
| 02:23.36 | abrotman | aixenv: okay .. so the lenny installer is out of the question as it is currently .. your choices are kmuto (you said fails) or the squeeze installer (not fit for internet production server) |
| 02:23.37 | aixenv | cries, hoped itd get a dif answer |
| 02:23.47 | abrotman | aixenv: or ... create a custom netinst of your own |
| 02:23.52 | aixenv | abrot: gonna try kmuto again |
| 02:23.55 | abrotman | aixenv: or .. try an older kmuto installer |
| 02:24.04 | abrotman | aixenv: abr<tab> |
| 02:24.10 | aixenv | abrot: i have a custom install, i tried loading the megaraid_sas.ko and it didnt work |
| 02:24.23 | aixenv | using d-i/early_command string |
| 02:24.24 | abrotman | aixenv: custom install using which kernel ? |
| 02:24.36 | simonrvn | aixenv: did you happen to look at dmesg? |
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| 02:24.38 | aixenv | 2.26-2 |
| 02:24.45 | abrotman | right .. same kernel as lenny |
| 02:25.15 | simonrvn | might need a custom cd iso... (jigdo or such) |
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| 02:25.19 | aixenv | so another option would be do sid |
| 02:25.40 | simonrvn | get sid kernel, put on lenny custom iso |
| 02:25.51 | simonrvn | (maybe, sounds dangerous) |
| 02:26.01 | aixenv | wellt his server is locked down |
| 02:26.01 | abrotman | aixenv: sid is not suitable for a production install |
| 02:26.03 | aixenv | i could just try sid |
| 02:26.13 | aixenv | bah is it that cutting/bleeding edge? |
| 02:26.17 | abrotman | aixenv: try the kmuto again .. or try the last version of the kmuto |
| 02:26.22 | simonrvn | no |
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| 02:26.28 | aixenv | abrotman: aye, yes trying that, having him reburn |
| 02:26.34 | abrotman | aixenv: sid has no security updates except those that happen as a result of a new version of the package entering the repo |
| 02:26.41 | simonrvn | sid on a server is NOT a good idea |
| 02:26.46 | aixenv | k |
| 02:27.02 | simonrvn | speaks from experience |
| 02:27.07 | aixenv | hehe |
| 02:27.23 | simonrvn | did it for 3 years |
| 02:27.46 | simonrvn | gah |
| 02:28.14 | maple1 | fuck debian |
| 02:28.19 | simonrvn | non-utf-8 crap with inverse video Ys |
| 02:28.32 | simonrvn | maple1: not sure, maybe it isn't your type |
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| 02:30.48 | aixenv | k he's runnin tot he cage now |
| 02:30.54 | aixenv | trying another burn of kmuto |
| 02:31.07 | aixenv | this isnt even one of the new r410 servers, just a 2950 poweredge |
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| 02:31.54 | aixenv | another option would be to put centos/rhes/sles on this server /sigh which i dont wanna do , since this is internal |
| 02:32.06 | aixenv | i hate mixing something like that into our internal net |
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| 02:32.28 | rares | when will mail-notification-evolution be updated to work with libcamel > 2.7 |
| 02:33.38 | abrotman | !why is mail-notification-evolution not in testing |
| 02:33.39 | dpkg | mail-notification-evolution is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=mail-notification-evolution |
| 02:34.16 | simonrvn | oh, it's been moved |
| 02:35.24 | simonrvn | edits factoid in rb |
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| 02:43.42 | Vasistha | any tips for migrating from guarddog to firehol? The latter looks like a really great tool-- I've been wanting to get away from the gui firewall configurator for ages |
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| 02:45.19 | d_b | I'm about to reinstall Debian and I'd like to do it without all the extra stuff I never use. Can I install Gnome without getting all the games, openoffice, and so on, but avoid having to fix sound manually? (someone here asked earlier about getting sound to work for non-root user after a "minimal" install) |
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| 02:46.59 | abrotman | !install gnome |
| 02:47.00 | dpkg | To install GNOME on sarge or later, install the 'gnome' package to install everything, the 'gnome-desktop-environment' package for slightly less stuff, or the 'gnome-core' package for even less. You will need X installed as well, ask me about <install x>. http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome |
| 02:47.19 | lontra | i am running squeeze and trying to migrate to sysv-rc but it says dhcdbd, fam, openvpn, resolvconf, and system-tools-backends are removed but not purged. how can i purge what reamins? |
| 02:47.49 | Vasistha | lontra: if you don't know how to purge packages, why are you running squeeze? |
| 02:48.00 | d_b | abrotman: thanks, will read the wiki link! |
| 02:48.14 | lontra | Vasistha: ah .. i know how to with aptitude purge <foo> |
| 02:48.22 | lontra | Vasistha: but not already once they're gone |
| 02:48.24 | abrotman | lontra: dpkg -P <pkg> |
| 02:48.43 | lontra | abrotman: thanks |
| 02:48.48 | Vasistha | sorry :) |
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| 03:15.29 | LemensTS | im trying to get php mail() to work on lenny. I think i need to install sendmail or exim...i hear exim is better now. But im not sure which exim4 to install...theyere are like 13 of them |
| 03:16.08 | cafuego | To be honest, I much prefer postfix. |
| 03:16.24 | abrotman | concurs .. not that the opinion answers the question |
| 03:16.35 | abrotman | LemensTS: is it going to use a smarthost ? |
| 03:16.39 | cafuego | LemensTS: or `nullmailer' on web boxes, actually. |
| 03:17.08 | LemensTS | I can use postfix, which one do i need? |
| 03:17.17 | LemensTS | i just want to send mail from php script on a webpage |
| 03:17.20 | cafuego | The apckage is called postfix. |
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| 03:18.39 | abrotman | LemensTS: but you're using a smarthost ? |
| 03:18.43 | cipherz | hello, I just upgraded my xorg to the latest in unstable to get a newer graphics driver for my gma4500. The latter part works perfectly, however I now have problems with f1 and the windows button (which i use for various keyboard combos) |
| 03:18.51 | cipherz | anyone have experience with this ? |
| 03:19.15 | LemensTS | abrotman: im not sure what smarthost is |
| 03:19.28 | abrotman | !smarthost |
| 03:19.28 | dpkg | A smart host is a type of mail relay server (typically your ISP SMTP server) which allows an SMTP server to route e-mail to an intermediate mail server rather than directly to the recipientâs server. |
| 03:19.47 | LemensTS | no im not using smarthost |
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| 03:21.22 | abrotman | LemensTS: so the machine also will receive mail ? |
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| 03:22.10 | maher | suppose i'm in one terminal and i cd foo, now i go to another one, is there some way to cd to the last directory i cd'ed to from any terminal? |
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| 03:22.41 | cafuego | maher: copy and paste the output of pwd |
| 03:22.43 | Psi-Jack | Is there any package that populates /etc/avahi/services/* |
| 03:22.44 | Psi-Jack | ? |
| 03:23.20 | maher | cafuego: not quite the bash one liner I was looking for... |
| 03:23.42 | cafuego | maher: The problem would be the two separate bash processes; they don't share data. |
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| 03:24.18 | cafuego | maher: You could maybve ado a hook on 'cd' and dump the cwd to ~/.bash.curdir and then write an alias that uses that file to cd |
| 03:24.24 | maher | cafuego: ooo - can i pipe to the x clipboard |
| 03:24.27 | abrotman | popd/pushd :) |
| 03:24.31 | maher | cafuego: not a bad idea |
| 03:24.45 | cafuego | abrotman: multiple shells |
| 03:25.08 | abrotman | cafuego: i meant that you could push/pop into a file .. i realize different shells don't share that |
| 03:25.29 | cafuego | abrotman: fair nuff |
| 03:25.38 | maher | can i do pwd > xclipboard somehow? |
| 03:26.29 | cafuego | dunno |
| 03:27.39 | abrotman | judd: info xclip |
| 03:27.39 | judd | abrotman: xclip (x11): is optional; Version: 0.08-8; Size: 15.9k; Installed: 72k -- command line interface to X selections |
| 03:27.49 | maher | abrotman: heh - just found it |
| 03:27.55 | abrotman | not sure it'll do what you want |
| 03:28.06 | abrotman | maher: also xsel |
| 03:28.54 | maher | abrotman: i will ponder whether i should alias cd to cd $1 ; pwd > ~/.pwd.recent or something |
| 03:29.10 | abrotman | have fun with that! |
| 03:29.20 | abrotman | maher: #bash might have a better idea also |
| 03:29.22 | cafuego | maher: I'd stick aa fucntion in $PS1 |
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| 03:30.23 | nse | I'll be back. |
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| 03:30.33 | abrotman | oh .. a threat! |
| 03:30.43 | maher | cafuego: that's likely to have even more unintended consequences i think :) |
| 03:30.53 | cafuego | maher: why? |
| 03:31.29 | cafuego | maher: Write a function that does "pwd > ~/.pwd.recent" and call that from PS1. Then each time the prompt is printed it'll dump pwd to that file. |
| 03:32.24 | maher | cafuego: if i mess up aliases i can evade it with \cd - if i mess up PS1... well i can always log in as another user... |
| 03:33.06 | maher | cafuego: also my default ps1 doesn't have pwd in it |
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| 03:33.38 | cafuego | maher: Actually, it'll hit race condition |
| 03:33.54 | cafuego | maher: if you open a new shell, it'll already overwrite the value from the old one. Oops. |
| 03:34.53 | maher | cafuego: that's not necessarily a disaster as normally i'm just switching to a different shell |
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| 03:45.07 | bugjar | maher : duno which shell you are using, but zsh has a function which will "write-as-soon-as-the-command-is-run" to the history. the next tty can then be used to scroll into the history |
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| 04:03.39 | zhenia | I have a need for some guidance |
| 04:04.05 | abrotman | just ask |
| 04:04.05 | zhenia | I just plugged in a second scsi drive |
| 04:04.19 | zhenia | one is a raid 1+0 |
| 04:04.26 | zhenia | I just added a Raid 0 drive |
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| 04:04.40 | zhenia | I want to add it, but I would like the file system to span both disks |
| 04:05.12 | zhenia | I would get way lost if i had to think about what drive physically files are on, on top of the file system |
| 04:05.39 | zhenia | For some reason it seams easier to think of this in windows terms for me, there a new disk poses no issue for me. |
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| 04:05.50 | zhenia | I just don't want command to go haywire because of file location |
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| 04:26.36 | rares | does the new non trunk kernel have the fix for i845 xorg/intel lockups? |
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| 04:27.32 | aixenv | hey guys |
| 04:27.46 | aixenv | i tried booting that jp iso |
| 04:27.51 | aixenv | on my laptop |
| 04:27.59 | aixenv | and i get the same lockup point |
| 04:28.13 | aixenv | starts to boot the kernel |
| 04:28.15 | aixenv | and then |
| 04:28.37 | aixenv | (process: 1815): INFO: kbd-mode: setting console mode to Unicode (UTF-8) |
| 04:28.39 | aixenv | and just sits there |
| 04:29.09 | aixenv | any ideas? |
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| 04:31.32 | aixenv | hrm intereting expert install failed and basic install faild but "graphical install" seems to be working |
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| 04:36.37 | freenose | jP? |
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| 04:40.10 | massmc | hello, what do i type in shell to see what vnc porta are open? |
| 04:40.14 | massmc | or any port |
| 04:40.49 | markybob | on localhost? netstat -l |
| 04:41.03 | markybob | otherwise you want nmap -sS iphere |
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| 04:43.51 | massmc | thanks markybob |
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| 04:47.49 | rares | anyone have luck with gnome-shell whole thing looks like a web page |
| 04:48.08 | markybob | rares, that's because a huge chunk of it is javascript |
| 04:49.43 | rares | it also looks bad if you don't have dri on - thx to xorg and intel |
| 04:49.52 | rares | and it takes forever to load |
| 04:50.00 | markybob | it looks bad even with dri. i hate it |
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| 04:51.02 | smacnay | rares, I played with it a bit - I actually like some of what they are trying to do but don't like the performance yet. I am back tou using metacity. |
| 04:51.14 | lkthomas | one question, if loading average is 2.0 but cpu shows 99% idle, is it ok ? |
| 04:51.41 | markybob | javascript rendering in what's supposed to be a desktop app == idiotic |
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| 04:52.14 | rares | javascript wouldn't be so bad if it were hosted on parrot and fast |
| 04:52.17 | ksnp | i want permanently export (across reboots) the JAVA_HOME does an export remain across reboots ? |
| 04:52.43 | markybob | C has done fucking outstanding since 1969...but no...let's switch a performance hog and idiot language |
| 04:53.16 | jetx | ksnp: you would need to edit .bashrc or bash_profile |
| 04:53.22 | jetx | !.bashrc |
| 04:53.29 | ksnp | but that would work only for root or user ? |
| 04:53.30 | jetx | !bashrc |
| 04:53.31 | dpkg | ~/.bashrc is where you put all your aliases and functions. It's read at start-up time by all interactive non-login shells. To make sure it's read by a login shell, put "source ~/.bashrc" at the end of ~/.bash_profile, or just remove the comment that is placed before the already typed include line that Debian's ~/.bash_profile has by default. ask me about <bash eternal history>. |
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| 04:53.45 | ksnp | how will services know it - services also need to see that path |
| 04:53.46 | jetx | .bashrc for user, youcan do it system wide also |
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| 04:53.59 | jetx | /etc/profile iirc |
| 04:53.59 | ksnp | well, what if its not done by login at all |
| 04:54.10 | ksnp | its for services to see it ? |
| 04:54.14 | jetx | ah i dunno |
| 04:54.20 | ksnp | ok |
| 04:54.36 | rares | C is horrid for DOM based programming |
| 04:55.31 | rares | as for performance hog - gecko seems to work well |
| 04:55.44 | rares | the issue is that internal should not be C |
| 04:55.52 | rares | er not be Javascript |
| 04:56.15 | rares | manipulation of DOM objects works fine in js |
| 04:56.48 | rares | i would like though a clean subset of CSS3 for it |
| 04:57.09 | rares | a lot of CSS is mixed effects and manipulations |
| 04:57.53 | rares | event triggers should be in C or JS and the CSS standard followed but not nailed down |
| 04:58.25 | Vasistha | wow, I am in awe at home firehol is so much easier than guarddog. |
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| 05:02.19 | smacnay | none of my samba shares seem accessible via Gnome's file manager stuff... interesting |
| 05:03.43 | massmc | hello , what do I have to do to my VPS so that my domain name appears on my host here in IRC rather than the IP |
| 05:04.02 | markybob | smacnay, via file->connect to server ? or via smb:// ? or what? |
| 05:04.17 | Titan8990 | massmc: you need a PTR DNS record |
| 05:04.50 | Titan8990 | massmc: you may have to ask your VPS provider for that |
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| 05:05.08 | massmc | a ptr? how do I set that up Titan? I have the DNS entries up infront of me |
| 05:05.13 | massmc | and I can add to them |
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| 05:06.12 | markybob | massmc, most of the time you need your provider to set up reverse dns, which is what you need |
| 05:06.33 | Titan8990 | massmc: you can't do it yourself, it must be done by who owns the IP address |
| 05:06.44 | Titan8990 | massmc: because it is looking up the IP address, not your hostname |
| 05:06.57 | Titan8990 | massmc: http://aplawrence.com/Blog/B961.html |
| 05:07.16 | markybob | massmc, the vast majority offer it (and free) |
| 05:07.19 | massmc | I have reverse dns in my panel.. I reversename my domain name to the IP of the server |
| 05:08.27 | markybob | massmc, how long has it been? |
| 05:08.39 | massmc | about 1 hour |
| 05:08.49 | markybob | massmc, then go away and come back tomorrow |
| 05:08.57 | massmc | cheers for that link also Titan8990, checking it now |
| 05:09.05 | markybob | massmc, it can take up to 48hrs (but is usually done in a day) |
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| 05:09.41 | massmc | markybob, reason why it baffles me is because i can ssh into my machine using the domain name , thats why |
| 05:09.52 | markybob | massmc, matters not |
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| 05:10.25 | massmc | kk i'll try waiting.. but my records all seem in order, even with the reverse dns |
| 05:10.30 | massmc | cheers for your time |
| 05:10.34 | Titan8990 | massmc: thats beacause your taking a hostname and looking up the A record |
| 05:10.40 | markybob | ssh using your hostname has to do with your dns server. irc server finding your hostname for your ip has to do with the irc server's dns server |
| 05:10.48 | Titan8990 | massmc: with PTR your doing the opposite and looking up the IP |
| 05:11.07 | massmc | ptr is reverse dns right? |
| 05:12.04 | markybob | "The process of reverse resolving an IP address is facilitated with the pointer DNS record type (PTR record)." |
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| 05:12.58 | zhenia | I have an NXserver question |
| 05:13.03 | smacnay | markybob, I am just trying to go through the "Places - Network" option. I see "Workgroup" but my password does not work in accessing even though the same password works for smbtree and smbclient. |
| 05:13.07 | zhenia | i get error 500 |
| 05:13.13 | zhenia | I think my keys are messed up |
| 05:13.19 | zhenia | I can ssh in to the server |
| 05:13.26 | zhenia | and I added the user |
| 05:14.24 | markybob | smacnay, that's not that surprising. try file->connect to server or smb:// |
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| 05:17.29 | smacnay | markybob, thanks - that worked quite well. |
| 05:17.36 | markybob | smacnay, yay :) |
| 05:18.15 | smacnay | markybob, I am also trying to either vnc or rdp to a server here. Unfortunately, the server is Ubuntu but I believe that both rdp and vnc is enabled. I cannot make a connection.... Any advice? |
| 05:18.58 | markybob | smacnay, server's using gnome? |
| 05:19.10 | smacnay | markybob, yes |
| 05:19.35 | smacnay | markybob, smb shares accessed as well via your "file - connect to server" option - thanks again. |
| 05:19.39 | markybob | smacnay, make sure vino is installed on the server. then check it's preferences (set to allow, etc) in system->preferences-> remote desktop |
| 05:19.50 | smacnay | markybob, done already |
| 05:20.12 | markybob | smacnay, can you nmap -sS from a remote box and see port 5900 open? |
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| 05:21.18 | smacnay | markybob, port is not open - hmmmm.... |
| 05:21.30 | markybob | smacnay, are you using firestarter or some other firewall on that box? |
| 05:21.43 | markybob | smacnay, iirc, ubuntu has a firewall by default |
| 05:21.47 | smacnay | markybob, shouldn't be - iptables -L is blank |
| 05:22.04 | smacnay | markybob, ah, that is something I never set up... let me see |
| 05:22.46 | markybob | smacnay, this is something you're better off asking in #ubuntu, though. i know very, very little about ubuntu. |
| 05:23.07 | smacnay | markybob, thanks - I will do that - I, obviously, know very little about Ubuntu as well |
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| 05:29.18 | smacnay | markybob, no firewall running on that ubuntu machine, xrdp is running, but no port 5900 shows up - I am stumped |
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| 05:31.23 | markybob | smacnay, rdp uses 3389, not 5900 |
| 05:31.44 | markybob | 5900 is vnc |
| 05:32.43 | smacnay | markybob, that one is open |
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| 05:33.01 | markybob | smacnay, then you should be able to use rdesktop to connect |
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| 05:35.08 | smacnay | markybob, thanks |
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| 05:35.28 | smacnay | markybob, trying but I get connection errors |
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| 05:36.08 | markybob | smacnay, your ports are properly forwarded? |
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| 05:37.28 | smacnay | markybob, through my router? I believe so |
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| 05:38.00 | markybob | smacnay, that doesnt cut it. you're probably not |
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| 05:40.09 | smacnay | markybob, thanks for the help - I need to go to bed before I drop right onto the keyboard. |
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| 05:47.26 | Vasistha | why is the cups web interface sooo slow? It's taking 5-10 seconds to load a simple little page, what's up with that? |
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| 05:53.45 | aaron__ | Hey there i have a question I'm running low on my system storage i have a window partition that has 70 GB i want to put it to my Linux Partition how can i do that? |
| 05:53.46 | aaron__ | please |
| 05:55.30 | aaron__ | any one? |
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| 05:55.49 | kermit | aaron__: why bother |
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| 05:55.55 | aaron__ | ?? |
| 05:56.01 | aaron__ | because i only have 2 gb left |
| 05:56.03 | kermit | aaron__: resize the windows partition to as small as the stuff you want to keep on it |
| 05:56.09 | aaron__ | and i need the size |
| 05:56.19 | aaron__ | i want to keep all of my files |
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| 06:02.37 | alkisg | Is it possible to `apt-get update "a-specific-repository-only" ? |
| 06:03.13 | alkisg | (I want to use it in a batch file, after adding my repository to the users' sources) |
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| 06:13.19 | dalfz | is it so that I have to manually run iptables-restore somewhere at boot? |
| 06:13.19 | Vasistha | alkisg: I don't think so. apt-get update is relatively quick when it's already up-to-date. If you don't want to run it, you could just copy pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin -- although I don't know if that's necessarily a good idea. |
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| 06:14.09 | alkisg | Vasistha: thank you! Nah, I don't want it *so* badly to mess around with specific apt files ;) |
| 06:14.38 | Vasistha | dalfz: depending on your setup, I'd imagine that something should be automatically run on startup, don't know why you would need to do it manually. What firewall are you using? |
| 06:15.01 | dalfz | Vasistha, lenny with iptables |
| 06:15.24 | Vasistha | dalfz: are you configuring iptables manually, or using some kind of automatic configurator? |
| 06:15.51 | dalfz | Vasistha, i have a rules file that I want to load at boot |
| 06:15.59 | markybob | dalfz, you want iptables-persistent |
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| 06:16.57 | dalfz | markybob, yes probably! |
| 06:17.09 | markybob | if by probably, you mean definitely :P |
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| 06:17.42 | dalfz | yes:) checking it out |
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| 06:21.20 | dalfz | markybob, um i thought it was a package? what repos? |
| 06:22.24 | markybob | dalfz, it is. you need to do a simple backport. http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/iptables-persistent |
| 06:22.55 | markybob | actually, that package would probably install fine with dpkg -i, without backporting it |
| 06:23.04 | dalfz | markybob, oh, do you know why it was removed? |
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| 06:23.46 | markybob | dalfz, before then, there was iptables-save, which got removed for being quite buggy. that's when lenny was released. then iptables-persistent took over |
| 06:25.16 | dalfz | thanks |
| 06:25.23 | dalfz | testing |
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| 07:30.29 | med\weed | !ask |
| 07:30.29 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 08:14.54 | Zoup | where reboots get logged? |
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| 08:17.10 | m_dige | Hi guys. How come it seems that all packages in squeeze has disappered on my system? Now aptitude only wants to install packages from sid? Happened this morning when I updated the packages list in aptitude |
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| 08:27.33 | simonrvn | Zoup: try 'last' |
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| 08:37.47 | lnostdal | so .. 2.6.31 .. performance counter is in .. :) .. but where is the actual user-space tool ('perf')? |
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| 08:40.17 | lnostdal | i could built it from the kernel source i guess |
| 08:40.20 | lnostdal | build* |
| 08:40.41 | simonrvn | judd: info perf |
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| 08:42.49 | simonrvn | judd: --versions perf |
| 08:42.50 | judd | simonrvn: perf -- |
| 08:42.59 | simonrvn | *shrug* |
| 08:44.24 | lnostdal | ok, well .. it works .. cool :) |
| 08:44.52 | lnostdal | it's in the tools/perf directory, simonrvn |
| 08:45.22 | simonrvn | *nods* |
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| 08:52.08 | g00se | I've added two entries for opendns to resolv.conf, but if i dig without specifying the dns server to query, the opendns servers are not tried. What gives? |
| 08:52.56 | joltcan | g00se: did you write "nameserver xxx.xx.xx.xx"? |
| 08:53.15 | joltcan | g00se: Or just the IP? |
| 08:54.23 | g00se | joltcan: The former |
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| 08:57.48 | joltcan | g00se: Very weird in that case. are the opendns nameservers the only thing in resolv.conf, or are you also using a dns server? |
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| 08:59.26 | joltcan | g00se: not sure if the resolvconf program does something funky |
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| 09:00.03 | joltcan | g00se: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Definingthe.28DNS.29Nameservers |
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| 09:00.48 | g00se | joltcan: Well it only had the default in before, i.e. the router (192.168.1.1) |
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| 09:01.21 | joltcan | g00se: but resolvconf screws things up, if installed (probably since I'm not used to it), so maybe you need to verify that first |
| 09:01.53 | joltcan | g00se: otherwise use the resolvconf suggestion from the wiki, or just remove the resolvconf program |
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| 09:02.46 | globalsec | im having a weird problem |
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| 09:02.56 | globalsec | i can connect to my wifi manually from command line |
| 09:03.05 | globalsec | with iwconfig/ifconfig/dhclient |
| 09:03.09 | globalsec | but |
| 09:03.40 | globalsec | when im in gnome, it wont work, the wifi apps dont seem to work right, like i remember network-manager-gnome, it doesnt look the same |
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| 09:04.27 | globalsec | i see the mods loaded and obviously i can connect with wep with basic cli tools |
| 09:04.34 | globalsec | altho wpa personal 2 wont work that way |
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| 09:04.58 | globalsec | and once i configure wpa personal 2, i cant get the "NetworkManager" app to run my config, any ideas? |
| 09:05.39 | g00se | joltcan: Thanks. I actually don't have resolvconf installed. This all started because i got an unknown host for mail.btinternet.com, but actually the server appears to be down anyway using opendns' address for it |
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| 09:08.11 | globalsec | im reading |
| 09:08.12 | globalsec | http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#GNOME |
| 09:08.21 | globalsec | and the network icon doesnt appear |
| 09:08.49 | globalsec | A new applet (computer icon) will appear in the notification area / system tray. Left-click this icon to present the nm-applet pop-up menu. |
| 09:08.57 | globalsec | that isnt coming up |
| 09:09.08 | globalsec | brb i have an idea |
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| 09:19.06 | silidan | hi, id like to install debian sid on a notebook without cd-rom drive, i have an usb-stick and the notebook can boot from usb drives (as the bios tells me), any hint on a howto? |
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| 09:20.40 | Rapp | hi everyone! |
| 09:21.59 | Rapp | i have a stupid driver program for an input device, which needs to be run from inittab, setuid root. this /used/ to work. however since the last debian testing upgrades here, the program is always run with my own UID. when i run it manually from the command line, it will be run as root (thanks to the setuid) |
| 09:22.14 | Rapp | has there been any changes to the inittab system? |
| 09:22.59 | nsadmin | look at the driver program |
| 09:23.06 | nsadmin | ls -l it |
| 09:23.25 | Rapp | -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 384459 2009-11-02 09:35 3dxsrv |
| 09:23.43 | nsadmin | yep, it's setuid root |
| 09:23.51 | Rapp | yep, and it works if i run it manually |
| 09:24.13 | Rapp | the install script of the driver puts it in inittab though, and it is started upon login then |
| 09:24.27 | Rapp | but with inittab, it will get my UID instead, and will not work |
| 09:24.38 | nsadmin | not sure why that would be |
| 09:24.43 | Rapp | me neither... |
| 09:25.01 | nsadmin | what is the complete path to it? |
| 09:25.22 | joltcan | silidan: not tried myself, but here you go: http://wiki.debian.org/BootUsb |
| 09:25.36 | Rapp | /etc/3DxWare/daemon |
| 09:26.16 | nsadmin | so /etc/3DxWare/daemon/3dxsrv ? |
| 09:26.43 | Rapp | yep |
| 09:26.59 | nsadmin | ok, and what does the line in inittab look like? |
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| 09:28.16 | Rapp | 13d:2345:respawn:/etc/3DxWare/daemon/3dxsrv -d usb </dev/null >/dev/null 2>& |
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| 09:29.41 | silidan | hi, is there any recent tutorial for installing debian from an usb stick?? |
| 09:29.42 | Rapp | the character in front is a copy and paste mistake |
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| 09:30.53 | nsadmin | the last thing is 2>&1 ? |
| 09:30.58 | Rapp | yes |
| 09:31.34 | nsadmin | that's that stream combiner thing |
| 09:31.39 | Rapp | yes |
| 09:32.05 | nsadmin | there's nothing in the inittab line that says anything about which user it should run as |
| 09:32.18 | Rapp | can that be specified? |
| 09:32.25 | Rapp | i looked at the inittab manpage |
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| 09:33.51 | joltcan | silidan: Look at the link I posted, it starts with your nickname... |
| 09:34.16 | nsadmin | I don't think so... I guess originally they were thinking "since the admin guy can setuid whateveruser, there's no need to have the ability to specify in the inittab |
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| 09:35.06 | nsadmin | when you start it as you, it runs as root... yes? |
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| 09:36.01 | nsadmin | (and how are you seeing that?) |
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| 09:40.07 | Rapp | nsadmin: yes |
| 09:40.21 | Rapp | nsadmin: i see that via ps, and that the driver actually works :) |
| 09:40.52 | nsadmin | ok, just a semistupid test because I'm curious... |
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| 09:41.25 | nsadmin | kill off the driver (not if it's serving a thousand people or anything, and not if there are attached resources) |
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| 09:41.37 | nsadmin | and start it as root and see what happens |
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| 09:44.08 | silidan | joltcan: thanks im looking into it |
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| 09:46.59 | nsadmin | Rapp: results of any interest? |
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| 09:48.24 | Rapp | nsadmin: sorry, have to check that later. something else came up |
| 09:50.50 | nsadmin | ls -l /etc/inittab |
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| 09:51.03 | gynter | where could I find mencoder package for debian? |
| 09:51.06 | gynter | lenny |
| 09:51.16 | gynter | amd64 |
| 09:51.25 | nsadmin | !dmm |
| 09:51.26 | dpkg | hmm... dmm is Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm lenny> <dmm etch> <dmm squeeze>. |
| 09:53.47 | silidan | has anyone got a link to an debian-live-sid-amd64 image for a usb stick? |
| 09:54.26 | gynter | !dmm lenny |
| 09:54.27 | dpkg | To add the debian-multimedia repository run (as root) # echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ lenny main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; aptitude update && aptitude install debian-multimedia-keyring && aptitude update. For an alternative way to load Marillat's archive key, ask me about <apt-key 1F41B907>. |
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| 09:56.55 | gynter | nsadmin, thanks. |
| 09:57.52 | scream_ | !dmm squeeze |
| 09:57.53 | dpkg | To add the debian-multimedia repository run (as root) # echo "deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ squeeze main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; aptitude update && aptitude install debian-multimedia-keyring && aptitude update. For an alternative way to load Marillat's archive key, ask me about <apt-key 1F41B907>. |
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| 10:04.56 | krionux | hi |
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| 10:06.02 | Sero | Hi! I have a USB modem which I would like to test whether it works or not. is it possible to send AT commands by writing to /dev/ttyUSB1 ? |
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| 10:07.19 | valdyn | Sero: or you can just use minicom |
| 10:07.59 | Creap | one of my users can't login to my server. I get either "connection reset by peer" or "/bin/bash not found", though it works fine with root and other users. they all have /bin/bash as shell in passwd |
| 10:08.46 | joltcan | Sero: use screen /dev/ttyUSB1 or minicom |
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| 10:10.38 | darkskiez | creap: u got two machines with the same ip? |
| 10:10.38 | Sero | need command line style |
| 10:10.44 | infid | on debian, apache runs as user 'www-data' but postgres users run as as 'ident sameuser' via unix domain sockets instead of tcp and require no password. However, i need to connect to a database from a PHP page so this doesn't really work. What should i do? |
| 10:10.59 | Creap | darkskiez: hm, what I've recently changed is to give my machines static IP's |
| 10:11.01 | mdik | hi. anyone here experienced in fixing bug 555463? libc doesn't upgrade and the workaroud doesn't work for me cause the postinst-script doesn't contain the stuff the bug-reporter mentions... |
| 10:11.16 | Creap | but obviously not the same |
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| 10:11.48 | darkskiez | creap: chance that user has old ip in dns cache ? |
| 10:11.55 | mdik | ...the error-message is the same, though. |
| 10:12.05 | Creap | darkskiez: hm, could be, but I've restarted all machines |
| 10:12.12 | Creap | how do I renew? |
| 10:13.04 | Kazuha | Is there any way to make a confile to tell mono where to look for dlls? |
| 10:13.07 | darkskiez | if you've restarted, should cover it |
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| 10:13.40 | darkskiez | its the connection reset by peer that really gets me |
| 10:13.42 | Kazuha | (If you don't want to link them into /usr/lib/mono ) |
| 10:13.47 | darkskiez | can you su as root to that user ? |
| 10:14.05 | Creap | yes |
| 10:14.17 | Kazuha | root can su to anyone. |
| 10:14.28 | darkskiez | Kazuha: not if you've a faulty user |
| 10:15.35 | Creap | one thing that differs with that user is that its home dir is mounted (with bind) from another disk |
| 10:16.02 | Creap | but I mean, I can login and do anything as the user when I'm already on the machine, locally or byu loggin in with another account |
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| 10:18.54 | fale | hi |
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| 10:19.10 | fale | how can I find everything out of .flac files and dirs? |
| 10:19.34 | echa_ | how can i make esc-esc work for autocompletion in a gnome-terminal bash session? |
| 10:20.53 | echa_ | i already have set -o vi on |
| 10:20.55 | nsadmin | fale: maybe find will work. |
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| 10:21.30 | fale | nsadmin: I have thought about it, but I have no idea about how to use exclusive regex |
| 10:21.59 | echa_ | fale: find . -name *.flac |
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| 10:22.05 | darkskiez | creap: you watched your various logs when loggin in failure happens? |
| 10:22.13 | fale | echa_: thankyou :) |
| 10:22.25 | Kazuha | I'm trying to build something, and I realized that mono isn't checking the (obvious to me) directory -- any way to set a 'local' lib director? |
| 10:22.35 | Kazuha | As in, 'local' to the user? |
| 10:22.46 | fale | echa_: wait... is finding only .flac :S |
| 10:22.52 | Creap | darkskiez: no, where should I check? |
| 10:22.54 | Kazuha | ~/lib or similar. |
| 10:23.24 | darkskiez | Creap: /var/log/{syslog,auth.log,messages,daemon.log} |
| 10:23.29 | Creap | ok |
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| 10:24.08 | Creap | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:24.12 | Creap | probably that then |
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| 10:27.52 | echa_ | fale: that's what you asked for |
| 10:28.28 | echa_ | nobody knows how to change the autocomplete key? |
| 10:28.49 | echa_ | fale: man find |
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| 10:29.08 | fale | echa_: I wanted to find all out of flacs ;) |
| 10:29.20 | echa_ | fale: wtf does that even mean |
| 10:29.31 | echa_ | fale: ? |
| 10:29.32 | nsadmin | man find |
| 10:29.58 | fale | echa_: find * -*.flac... I'll try again to look the man |
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| 10:30.47 | nsadmin | make sure you get how the arguments work in find |
| 10:31.05 | petemc | fale: find . iname \*.flac |
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| 10:32.10 | Kazuha | locate .flac |
| 10:32.10 | fale | thx petemc |
| 10:32.14 | Creap | solved the error. I had added myself to a group without remembering it had it's homedir chrooted. |
| 10:32.20 | Supaplex | any suggestions on how to avoid this msg in syslog? usb 1-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2 |
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| 10:33.04 | nsadmin | Supaplex: avoid it? it's telling you something specific about something that your hardware is doing |
| 10:33.21 | nsadmin | find out about that, find out why your hw is doing that |
| 10:34.04 | fale | another q: is there a program to tag (using cddb) flac files with the cli? |
| 10:34.28 | Supaplex | so when does the kernel decide it needs to reset the bus? |
| 10:35.08 | petemc | fale: apt-cache search flac|grep tag |
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| 10:36.13 | agx | is there a safe way to disable UDEV persistent rules? actually i zeroed the files in /etc/udev/rules.d/*persistent* |
| 10:36.41 | Supaplex | checks riddle:/usr/local/src/linux-2.6.18# grep -rl 'reset.*USB device using' * |
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| 10:45.20 | Raven737 | Hi :-) So i have this new service controller that i want to be auto started on boot so I put it into the /etc/init.d ... but it doesn't start... what am i missing? |
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| 10:46.59 | disc0rd | Raven737: does it have a proper init.d script? otherwise just put it in /etc/rc.local |
| 10:47.47 | Raven737 | disc0rd: yes, it worked fine on etch.. but maybe i am forgetting something... |
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| 10:48.09 | disc0rd | is the execute bit set? |
| 10:48.23 | Raven737 | disc0rd: yes, same as all the other scripts in init.d |
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| 10:48.35 | yang | Is someone willing to assist me with some debian routing ? |
| 10:48.46 | Raven737 | disc0rd: i mean owner/group and access |
| 10:48.59 | ravigehlot | I had a file called assignments.tar.gz deleted by mistake. How can I recover it? |
| 10:49.10 | disc0rd | -rwxr-xr-x ? |
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| 10:49.37 | Raven737 | disc0rd: yes, exactly that |
| 10:49.46 | disc0rd | ravigehlot: what filesytem? ext2? |
| 10:49.52 | Supaplex | !tell yang -about ask |
| 10:49.56 | ravigehlot | disc0rd: ext3 |
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| 10:50.45 | disc0rd | i looked into undeleting files the other day, you need to have the filesystem unmounted, to do it, so might need to use a livecd |
| 10:50.47 | Raven737 | disc0rd: if i run it manually with /etc/init.d/lampp start" |
| 10:51.00 | Raven737 | disc0rd: then it works (starts) |
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| 10:51.29 | ravigehlot | disc0rd: I disagree with that. foremost and scalpel can do the job |
| 10:51.37 | newbie | I messed up my Apache2 VirtualHosts *:80 |
| 10:51.39 | Raven737 | disc0rd: oh.. i have that in the opt which is on a lvm partition.. could it be that it is loaded after lvm? |
| 10:51.40 | ravigehlot | disc0rd: just need more insight |
| 10:52.14 | Raven737 | disc0rd: i mean could it be that it is loaded before lvm and can't access the actual files yet? |
| 10:52.36 | Raven737 | disc0rd: is there a way to make it depend on another service? |
| 10:52.42 | yang | Supaplex: do you mind if I ask you a few things about debian routing in a query ? |
| 10:52.58 | disc0rd | sorry ravigehlot, didn't look into to deeply |
| 10:53.09 | ravigehlot | disc0rd: its okay |
| 10:53.43 | yang | Supaplex: its regarding a range of IPs I don't want them to be publicly displayed |
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| 10:55.12 | disc0rd | Raven737: have a look at the README file in /etc/rc3.d/ |
| 10:55.27 | Supaplex | yang: yes I mind. I'm going to bed. I can't see very well right now (migrane rolling in). goodnight. |
| 10:55.38 | yang | Supaplex: night ! |
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| 10:56.46 | shikamaru | hello there |
| 10:56.59 | shikamaru | are there some ppc users here? |
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| 10:57.01 | nsadmin | <there> hello |
| 10:57.07 | disc0rd | i'm not too au fay with runlevels in debian, but i think rc3 is the one |
| 10:57.08 | nsadmin | !ask |
| 10:57.09 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 10:57.12 | disc0rd | might be rc5 |
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| 10:57.21 | Raven737 | disc0rd: thanks for the tip.. checkign out what this whole rc3 run level means ;) |
| 10:57.25 | echa_ | shikamaru: i was a debian/ppc user a while back |
| 10:57.28 | shikamaru | seems like there are missing options in latest linux-image-2.6 |
| 10:57.42 | shikamaru | that prevent udev from updating properly |
| 10:57.48 | nsadmin | there is also #debian-ppc either here or on oftc |
| 10:57.51 | annirg | rc3 means reboot? |
| 10:57.51 | nsadmin | !ppc |
| 10:57.52 | dpkg | from memory, ppc is is short for <powerpc>, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/ or visit #debianppc |
| 10:58.08 | shikamaru | nsadmin: I'm sorry but there are only idling people there :/ |
| 10:58.17 | disc0rd | no, rc6 is reboot |
| 10:58.19 | shikamaru | just wanted to know it this was a known issue |
| 10:58.40 | shikamaru | or if I shall open a bug report against linux-image-2.6-powerpc64 |
| 10:58.41 | nsadmin | I don't know myself.. had you checked the bts? |
| 10:58.48 | echa_ | shikamaru: i found myself compiling kernels from kernel.org on my powerbook |
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| 10:59.05 | annirg | ye,rc3 means alone user system |
| 10:59.10 | echa_ | shikamaru: to get everything working how i wanted it |
| 10:59.18 | nsadmin | the bts is where known issues are stored and discussed :) |
| 10:59.19 | themill | shikamaru: we gave no chance of answering your question until you define "latest". 2.6.30? What version of udev? |
| 10:59.33 | shikamaru | themill: 146 |
| 10:59.55 | themill | So you're running squeeze? |
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| 11:00.05 | themill | Feel free to make this easy for us. |
| 11:00.18 | disc0rd | i haven't played with runnlevels since redhat 6, and rc3 was multiuser console, rc5 was multi-user X |
| 11:00.25 | nsadmin | by volunteering informaion |
| 11:00.32 | annirg | momo |
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| 11:00.45 | disc0rd | according to wikipedia "Debian, as well as most of the distributions based on it, like early Ubuntu, does not make any distinction between runlevels 2 to 5." |
| 11:00.59 | shikamaru | themill: yep |
| 11:01.13 | shikamaru | themill: apparently thos changes in udev were introduced in udev 143 |
| 11:01.22 | nsadmin | did ubuntu do something different to the runlevels lately? |
| 11:01.26 | shikamaru | I'm running kernel-2.6.30-2 |
| 11:01.28 | disc0rd | if you look at /etc/rc2.d/ to /etc/rc5.d/, they all have the same stuff |
| 11:01.45 | disc0rd | not sure if that means you have to put your link in every directory.. |
| 11:01.48 | Raven737 | well i'll just try rc3 and rc6 and see which will work, Thank a lot! :) |
| 11:01.53 | disc0rd | not 6 |
| 11:01.59 | disc0rd | 6 is def. reboot |
| 11:02.16 | nsadmin | rc6 is special, so is 0 and 1 |
| 11:02.16 | Raven737 | ok.. just 3 then :) |
| 11:02.33 | mango | hello every one...I have been trying to sort my wifi card on a xps m1330 but no luck despite the big help from prahal and others in this room....the same machine works welll with ubuntu live cd...I was just wondering if the same driver would work with debian so I can retrieve the details for ubuntu and apply them on debian...thanks |
| 11:02.43 | annirg | change the password? hoho |
| 11:02.49 | disc0rd | bit of a bandaid, but you could always just put the "/etc/init.d/blah start" line in /etc/rc.local |
| 11:03.38 | Raven737 | disc0rd: thanks, if nothing works i'll try that.. thing is the service should be shut down (stopped) properly too.. |
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| 11:04.37 | disc0rd | k |
| 11:04.45 | shikamaru | themill: I'll try to rebuild the deb with the proper options this afternoon, but I must admit I don't know well the deb packaging, and well, the kernel is not the easiest way to start off with :] |
| 11:04.46 | disc0rd | LFS has some good info on runlevels |
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| 11:05.19 | disc0rd | i'll find you the section |
| 11:06.02 | disc0rd | http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/chapter07/usage.html |
| 11:06.12 | nsadmin | shikamaru: make-kpkg makes it fairly easy |
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| 11:06.43 | Raven737 | disc0rd: thank you very much! =) |
| 11:06.49 | echa_ | shikamaru: yeah there are a few short guides on the internet on how to do it, the hardest bit it choosing all the right options |
| 11:07.16 | echa_ | s/it/is/ |
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| 11:08.32 | disc0rd | no worries Raven737, LFS is great for learning about all this nitty gritty stuff :) |
| 11:08.42 | annirg | exit |
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| 11:14.53 | d_b | When copying files and you don't have the proper permissions for one of them, everything stops until you've replied to a question about how to do with that one, then it continuges. This is a real PITA if you're copying a large amount of files and leave it unattended only to come back and see that it stopped in the beginning. Is there a good reason for this? I'd like to know before filing a bug report. |
| 11:15.21 | tyhgu | got problem with flash on lenny. i don't have sound playing movies in iceweasel. tried few fixes from google and it still doesn't work |
| 11:16.12 | d_b | tyhgu: what flash player are you using? |
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| 11:17.50 | disc0rd | d_b: console or gui? |
| 11:19.04 | tyhgu | before changes it was core player or something like this |
| 11:19.16 | tyhgu | flash package is non free package from squeeze |
| 11:19.36 | Raven737 | doh... i just forgot exec update-rc.d ... now all works well and i learned quire a bit! Thanks a lot! =) |
| 11:19.52 | disc0rd | you're welcome :) |
| 11:21.38 | d_b | disc0rd: Did the move in Nautilus |
| 11:22.27 | d_b | tyhgu: I don't know if that's Adobes package (guessing not?), if so try that. |
| 11:22.48 | tyhgu | yeah i think i'll do |
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| 11:28.06 | bolt | how much space does a base install use? |
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| 11:28.18 | M4K4V3l1 | when I star downloading a package with apt-get it looks very slower and take time especially in "Reading package lists." what can be the reason ? and how to solve this ? |
| 11:29.12 | jpinx-eeepc | bolt: depends on your system a bit, but from memory mine was about 700Mbs |
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| 11:30.01 | jpinx-eeepc | M4K4V3l1: try aptitude, look at your connection, check your nearest/fastest mirror~ |
| 11:30.25 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell M4K4V3l1 about why aptitude |
| 11:30.31 | disc0rd | hey jpinx-eeepc which eee you got? |
| 11:30.32 | M4K4V3l1 | jpinx-eeepc: good suggestions, thank you |
| 11:30.47 | jpinx-eeepc | disc0rd: 701 |
| 11:30.51 | disc0rd | snap |
| 11:30.54 | disc0rd | hehe |
| 11:30.55 | jpinx-eeepc | M4K4V3l1: np |
| 11:31.01 | Stereo | M4K4V3l1: there's apt-spy too |
| 11:31.18 | jpinx-eeepc | disc0rd: upgrading to a 2nd-hand 901 soon I hope |
| 11:31.34 | jpinx-eeepc | Stereo: yea - I always forget about that ;) |
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| 11:31.55 | Stereo | M4K4V3l1: and http://madduck.net/blog/2009.08.11:speed-up-dpkg-on-older-systems/ maybe |
| 11:32.03 | M4K4V3l1 | Stereo: ok thanks |
| 11:32.15 | axe | !tell axe about why aptitude |
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| 11:32.31 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell axe about selftell |
| 11:32.49 | disc0rd | tell me why aptitude |
| 11:32.53 | disc0rd | :) |
| 11:33.13 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell disc0rd about why aptitude |
| 11:33.17 | disc0rd | i like the bits of extra info hre nd there, like in search |
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| 11:33.27 | disc0rd | but i'm sure there's more to it, thnks |
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| 11:33.43 | jpinx-eeepc | disc0rd: dpkg is really handy - learn about /msg dpkg for whatever |
| 11:34.14 | jpinx-eeepc | disc0rd: do /msg dpkg selftell ;) |
| 11:34.54 | disc0rd | cool |
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| 11:49.21 | shikamaru | echa_: well, if you have some to recommend me I'll be glad to take a look at it :) |
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| 12:08.40 | f00bar80 | I'm asking if i can run debian as a router/firewall(iptables/netfilter) ? if yes is there any guide ? and with which hardware requirements ?? |
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| 12:20.09 | d_b | Anyone know how to download the video at http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/episodes/cloud-challenge-of-the-stallions/video-full-episode/5297/ ? Is there an app for this? |
| 12:20.49 | OpenTokix | d_b: it's flash video |
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| 12:21.29 | d_b | OpenTokix: yeah |
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| 12:23.26 | yoshi765 | linux sucks |
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| 12:23.37 | yoshi765 | freenode sucks |
| 12:23.53 | yoshi765 | rizon is better. |
| 12:24.03 | yoshi765 | fuck freenode |
| 12:24.06 | azeem | yoshi765: do you have a Debian question? |
| 12:24.26 | yoshi765 | no asshole. i have fucked up ubuntu |
| 12:24.35 | yoshi765 | ubuntu sucks |
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| 12:24.42 | yoshi765 | i hate it |
| 12:24.45 | iceroot | yoshi765: u2 |
| 12:24.54 | azeem | yoshi765: then please either keep quiet or leave |
| 12:25.00 | yoshi765 | fuck |
| 12:25.02 | yoshi765 | you |
| 12:25.08 | yoshi765 | STFU |
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| 12:25.24 | azeem | yoshi765: you've been silenced for 10 minutes for being off-topic |
| 12:25.32 | azeem | please try to be more constructive in the future, thanks |
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| 12:43.59 | lvh | Hi! |
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| 12:44.45 | lvh | I'm trying to recover a busted filesystem. I've fixed most of the problems, but now I need to reconstruct a linux software raid array w/o the root fs. |
| 12:44.45 | HektoR_ | hi all. guys can i use ubuntu repositoryies on debian ? |
| 12:44.51 | lvh | HektoR_: no |
| 12:45.00 | lvh | HektoR_: unless you want to break your system in interesting ways |
| 12:45.24 | lvh | So, I've managed to recover /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf, so I know what the array looks like |
| 12:45.39 | jpinx-eeepc | HektoR_: why would you want to do that? |
| 12:45.39 | lvh | I can see the necessary partitions (linux raid autodetect in fdisk -l) |
| 12:45.44 | lvh | How do I rebuild the /dev/md0 device? |
| 12:45.53 | internat | lvh: mdadm assemble |
| 12:45.59 | internat | man page that |
| 12:46.16 | lvh | internat: I can't find the 'mdadm' binary. |
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| 12:46.27 | Kyrterz | hi i'm getting this error can anyone help me solve it? |
| 12:46.27 | Kyrterz | http://www.pastebin.org/53007 |
| 12:46.39 | Kyrterz | seems i couldn't upgrade or delete it |
| 12:46.55 | lvh | internat: Is mdadm always used? I'm guessing it's the default now, and not ye olde god awfule raidtools. |
| 12:46.59 | internat | yeah your gonna need that |
| 12:47.11 | internat | ive never used raidtools only mdadm sorry |
| 12:47.21 | HektoR_ | jpinx-eeepc: because I dont have debian local repository (my country) |
| 12:47.22 | internat | but any of your live cds should have mdadm |
| 12:47.44 | lvh | internat: I'll find it. Thanks for the help! |
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| 12:47.50 | internat | np |
| 12:47.59 | jpinx-eeepc | HektoR_: you don't need one - I us USA and I am not in that country |
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| 12:48.41 | Kyrterz | http://www.pastebin.org/53007 apt-get install locales failed |
| 12:48.45 | lvh | I keep having the same problem every time one of my fs'es needs checking |
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| 12:48.54 | roland- | hey, any ways to migrate from ext3 to ext4? |
| 12:48.55 | lvh | fdisk can't find that particular volume (specified by UUID) |
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| 12:49.00 | themill | Kyrterz: /msg dpkg btssmite me |
| 12:49.23 | lvh | I'm not sure if it's because of the UUIDs, or because the md device it's trying to check doesnt exist yet |
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| 12:51.04 | lvh | internat: Weee! homefs: clean (yada yada) |
| 12:51.37 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell HektoR_ about apt-spy |
| 12:51.38 | lvh | internat: because not needing to restore backups is much better than needing to restore backups :-) Thanks again :-) |
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| 12:52.40 | hoo-hah | hi guys, is there a way to ease the transition to grub2? I have a workign menu.lst, but I haven't the foggiest how to convert it to grub.cfg |
| 12:52.54 | valdyn | hoo-hah: dont try |
| 12:52.57 | hoo-hah | The kernels in mind are for non-debian systems |
| 12:53.12 | hoo-hah | and I don't know how to implement =LABEL= of -legacy |
| 12:53.14 | valdyn | hoo-hah: menu.cfg is *always* generated, contrary to menu.lst |
| 12:53.16 | hoo-hah | valdyn: pardon? |
| 12:53.21 | valdyn | hoo-hah: grub.cfg is *always* generated, contrary to menu.lst |
| 12:53.38 | hoo-hah | yeah, that's what makes it so difficult |
| 12:53.45 | valdyn | hoo-hah: does it? |
| 12:53.59 | hoo-hah | rather than static entries, I have to sift through the control files |
| 12:54.02 | valdyn | hoo-hah: you edit /etc/grub.d/* |
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| 12:55.03 | S1kx | hola. using debian 5 with default packages, everytime i try to connect to my server with the private key thats associated to the public key in authorized_key i get "Server refused our key". i generated it on the server with "ssh-keygen -t rsa -b 4096", any ideas? |
| 12:55.13 | f00bar80 | I'm asking if i can run debian as a router/firewall(iptables/netfilter) ? if yes is there any guide ? and with which hardware requirements ?? |
| 12:55.30 | hoo-hah | valdyn: so it's not difficult at all, then? |
| 12:55.38 | valdyn | hoo-hah: right |
| 12:55.56 | valdyn | hoo-hah: its probably also not necessary unless you are trying to do this on lenny |
| 12:56.04 | hoo-hah | valdyn: how do i specify that a particular kernel boot use LABEL as opposed to UUID |
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| 12:56.17 | valdyn | hoo-hah: newer grub2 packages have fairly decent auto detection |
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| 12:56.29 | hoo-hah | this is squeeze |
| 12:56.35 | hoo-hah | I'll see what it does |
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| 12:56.38 | rvsjoen | s1kx: is the server expecting an rsa key ? run ssh with -v to get more information |
| 12:56.48 | themill | S1kx: if you have control over the server, /msg dpkg ssh debug ; it's likely to be a permissions problem on ~/.ssh at one end or other |
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| 12:58.12 | S1kx | themill: 13:58 dpkg ⢠i don't know :P |
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| 12:58.45 | S1kx | rvsjoen: showdown:/home/patrick/.ssh# ssh -v; OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-5, OpenSSL 0.9.8g 19 Oct 2007 |
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| 12:59.43 | valdyn | S1kx: thats a broken ssh version iirc |
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| 12:59.57 | hoo-hah | valdyn: I don't see where there is an option to pass custom kernel options |
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| 13:00.02 | hoo-hah | /etc/grub.d/* |
| 13:00.25 | rvsjoen | s1kx: that's the help, try adding -v to whatever command you are using to connect |
| 13:00.35 | valdyn | hoo-hah: custom kernel options to only specific kernels was not supported unless you added entries manually in menu.lst |
| 13:00.35 | S1kx | oh... im using putty to connect |
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| 13:00.54 | valdyn | hoo-hah: the same thing you can do via /etc/grub.d/40_custom |
| 13:00.57 | rvsjoen | ok |
| 13:01.08 | f00bar80 | any comment ??? |
| 13:01.13 | echa_ | i am having a problem with SSH. When i try to log into a machine that I have a password for, but not a key, I get locked out. I think ssh is trying to use the key i do have (for other servers) and failing multiple times |
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| 13:02.04 | echa_ | how can i force SSH to use keyboard-interactive when i know my private key is wrong? |
| 13:02.31 | echa_ | or at least tell it to try only once with the key, then revert to keyboard-interactive? |
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| 13:03.45 | rvsjoen | echa_: sometihng like -o PubKeyAuthentication=no ? |
| 13:04.29 | Titan8990_ | echa_, or -o PasswordAuthentication=yes |
| 13:05.05 | echa_ | ok, thanks |
| 13:05.14 | echa_ | is my analysis of the problem correct? |
| 13:05.23 | d1b | echa_: i don't think so. |
| 13:05.29 | echa_ | i mean, do you think SSH would be attempting multiple times with the key? |
| 13:05.32 | d1b | if the private key is no good, won't it prompt for keyboard input anyways. |
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| 13:05.50 | d1b | doesn't know as /me uses keyringz |
| 13:05.54 | echa_ | yes, but how many times will it attempt with the key before it reverts? |
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| 13:06.16 | echa_ | i only get 3 chances on these boxen before the account gets locked |
| 13:06.48 | d1b | echa_: no idea. don't remember if denyhosts / fail2ban would pick up on ssh key attempts |
| 13:06.55 | d1b | the default log level won't show them ;) |
| 13:07.05 | echa_ | target systems are HP-UX |
| 13:07.13 | echa_ | failed attempts are logged |
| 13:07.22 | d1b | echa_: even ssh key ...? |
| 13:07.26 | echa_ | yes |
| 13:07.36 | d1b | ok :) |
| 13:08.03 | echa_ | but i am confused as to why GNU OpenSSH client will make so many attempts with key auth |
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| 13:08.16 | echa_ | if it's wrong, it's wrong, why try again? |
| 13:08.20 | valdyn | echa_: youre very confused indeed |
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| 13:08.45 | valdyn | echa_: why do you even think it would test the same key several times? |
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| 13:08.56 | echa_ | i have no idea, but that's what i'm seeing in the logs |
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| 13:09.11 | benedikt | echa_: multiple tries with the same key or multiple connections? |
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| 13:09.29 | echa_ | multiple failed key auth attempts |
| 13:09.42 | valdyn | echa_: ... in multiple connections |
| 13:10.01 | echa_ | ssh user@host |
| 13:10.05 | echa_ | one connection |
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| 13:10.39 | valdyn | !debug sshd |
| 13:10.40 | dpkg | To debug sshd (server), run this as root on the server: "/usr/sbin/sshd -d -p 2222". Then use "ssh -p 2222 username@servername" on the client. |
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| 13:10.58 | echa_ | negative, i cannot run anything on the server |
| 13:11.03 | echa_ | as root i mean |
| 13:11.26 | echa_ | it takes nearly a day to get my account unlocked as well |
| 13:11.30 | echa_ | (government) |
| 13:12.02 | valdyn | echa_: start with a clean account with a clean ~/.ssh |
| 13:12.32 | echa_ | of course it works fine if there is no remote keys |
| 13:12.51 | valdyn | echa_: so the issue might *not* be the server denying you |
| 13:13.07 | echa_ | the issue *is* with the server denying me |
| 13:13.14 | echa_ | it's in the auth logs! |
| 13:13.27 | valdyn | echa_: so you do see the server auth logs? |
| 13:13.30 | echa_ | yes |
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| 13:14.19 | echa_ | i cannot guarantee that any server i log into will have a clean .ssh |
| 13:14.39 | echa_ | dozens and dozens of unix servers, some with residual ssh config with old public keys |
| 13:14.47 | valdyn | echa_: i was talking about the clients .ssh |
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| 13:15.01 | echa_ | i have a private key in there, yes |
| 13:15.13 | echa_ | which i used for several servers that i have set up for key auth |
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| 13:15.23 | echa_ | i also have a config file with several options |
| 13:15.30 | echa_ | that i need |
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| 13:16.18 | valdyn | echa_: you dont need to run sshd as root |
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| 13:16.30 | valdyn | echa_: ..to debug it |
| 13:16.42 | echa_ | i can't connect to the server on anything other than port 22 |
| 13:16.45 | echa_ | firewall |
| 13:17.08 | echa_ | pubkeyauthentication and passwordauthentication are sshd_config options |
| 13:17.10 | valdyn | echa_: so make a tunnel from the server |
| 13:17.12 | echa_ | not ssh client options |
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| 13:17.55 | echa_ | i don't see how it helps to debug it, i know what is happening |
| 13:18.11 | echa_ | ssh is attempting multiple times using the wrong key |
| 13:18.31 | echa_ | rather than failing once and reverting to keyboard-interactive |
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| 13:18.44 | echa_ | i can see that from the logs |
| 13:18.49 | echa_ | it's more clear to me now |
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| 13:19.13 | echa_ | what about ssh-agent options? |
| 13:19.32 | echa_ | isn't it ssh-agent that actually presents the key to the ssh client for use? |
| 13:19.36 | valdyn | echa_: youre free to add the "wrong" key server side to make it "right" |
| 13:19.51 | echa_ | i can only do that if i can ssh to the box |
| 13:19.55 | echa_ | which i can't |
| 13:20.12 | valdyn | echa_: but you can watch the log and you can run programs |
| 13:20.21 | valdyn | echa_: which implies that you can also add a key |
| 13:20.34 | echa_ | a colleague checked the log for me |
| 13:20.55 | valdyn | echa_: so we cant even rely on that being correctly read |
| 13:21.06 | echa_ | what are yo uon about |
| 13:21.07 | valdyn | echa_: you better get an email with that log |
| 13:21.13 | echa_ | wtf? |
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| 13:21.36 | echa_ | i saw the timestamps with my user account and a sequence of failed pubkey attempts |
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| 13:22.20 | echa_ | i'm telling you, every time i ssh to a remote server that has an existing key in .ssh, it fails and locks me out |
| 13:23.51 | echa_ | this seems to be a serious bug |
| 13:24.04 | echa_ | but i can't be the first person to have noticed this behaviour |
| 13:24.15 | petemc | echa_: you can run the ssh daemon in debug mode and see whats going on |
| 13:24.38 | petemc | oh, you've been told that |
| 13:25.03 | ethanol | echa_: you are |
| 13:25.28 | echa_ | petemc: oh, you didn't read when i said i'm not root on the servers, i have no control over any ports - all i can do is ssh to 22 |
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| 13:25.49 | valdyn | echa_: you dont need root |
| 13:25.57 | valdyn | echa_: but I already said that too |
| 13:26.35 | petemc | echa_: well, surely you have one machine with root access where you can test your little theory rather that just complaining about it here |
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| 13:27.25 | echa_ | i can test it in linux, yes |
| 13:27.56 | ethanol | echa_: well this is #debian.. so err, what else did you have in mind? |
| 13:28.19 | echa_ | bsd, HP-UX, Windows? |
| 13:28.26 | echa_ | whatever i want |
| 13:28.45 | ethanol | then find another channel |
| 13:28.46 | ethanol | :) |
| 13:29.17 | echa_ | ethanol: why does being in #debian limit my choices of test sshd servers? |
| 13:29.33 | echa_ | i am usingdebian Lenny packaged OpenSSH client |
| 13:29.41 | echa_ | which is what i have a problem with |
| 13:29.46 | ethanol | works fine for me |
| 13:29.56 | ethanol | so sounds like a pebkac problem |
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| 13:30.01 | echa_ | really |
| 13:30.07 | ethanol | yes, sincerely. |
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| 13:30.26 | echa_ | and you haven't seen any failures in your auth.log |
| 13:30.30 | ethanol | nope |
| 13:30.32 | benedikt | echa_: whats wrong with lenny's openssh? |
| 13:30.48 | echa_ | ethanol: then you haven't read the question |
| 13:31.06 | ethanol | that doesn't mean my answer is invalid :) |
| 13:31.16 | echa_ | ethanol: actually, yes it does |
| 13:31.21 | ethanol | no, it does not. |
| 13:31.24 | ethanol | it just makes you annoying. |
| 13:31.36 | ethanol | try #openssh |
| 13:32.17 | echa_ | ethanol: your test has nothing to do with this issue, which occurs when SSH fails to authenticate because of mismatched keys |
| 13:32.27 | ethanol | then fix your keys |
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| 13:32.41 | echa_ | ethanol: so to have reproduced it, you need to have had at least one error |
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| 13:34.20 | echa_ | yeah, i'll go to #openssh instead, it must just be this time of day that all the jerks come to hang out here. usually fols on this channel are quite agreeable |
| 13:34.26 | echa_ | s/fols/folks |
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| 13:43.36 | iceroot | where can i find infos about the ram i am using? like 1x 512mb, 1x 512mb, 1x 1024mb instead of 2GB free-m is giving me |
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| 13:44.27 | NiLon | there was somekind list but can't recall that were was it located |
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| 13:46.53 | xci | hey guys, I managed to break my system during dist-upgrade so that every time I try to install something with aptitude, it complains about unmet deps, and if I try to resolve those by hand, I just create more unmet deps, and aptitude -f install is not able to fix anything either - what would be the best way to return back? |
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| 13:47.04 | mesaGL | iceroot: lshw or dmidecode |
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| 13:47.15 | Titan8990_ | xci, what to upgrade to and from what? |
| 13:47.42 | Titan8990_ | xci, just pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 13:49.59 | iceroot | mesaGL: great, thank you, i was "cating" complete /proc :) |
| 13:50.22 | xci | well, now it is back to what it used to be, but I just changed all lennys to unstable (http://pastebin.com/m60bb96b6) |
| 13:50.34 | xci | and drew a dist-upgrade |
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| 13:50.58 | Justin | xci: you can't put things back to what it used to be after you upgrade to unstable |
| 13:51.24 | xci | yeah well, that's not necessary, I just want to make things working again :] |
| 13:51.29 | xci | or that I could install programs |
| 13:51.56 | Justin | xci: if you are running unstable now you need to have that reflected in your sources.list |
| 13:52.28 | Titan8990_ | xci, welcome to sid, like Justin said there is no going back |
| 13:52.46 | xci | well but usually unstable works the best anyway |
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| 13:53.01 | Titan8990_ | I disagree but I value stability |
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| 13:54.18 | iceroot | how much ram is this? (free -m) Mem: 3294 (3GB = 3072MB) |
| 13:54.37 | f00bar80 | I'm asking if i can run debian as a router/firewall(iptables/netfilter) ? if yes is there any guide ? and with which hardware requirements ?? |
| 13:55.32 | Titan8990_ | f00bar80, yes, but IMO *BSD makes a better firewall with pf than linux with iptables does |
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| 13:56.09 | Titan8990_ | f00bar80, unless you are doing it for a learning experience there is already linux and bsd variants preconfigured to function as a router |
| 13:56.26 | fale | there is an app that immediatly after start asks me a password. Is possible to make a bash comand that responds itself to this question? |
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| 13:57.44 | Justin | !wayttd fale |
| 13:57.45 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, fale? |
| 13:58.02 | mesaGL | iceroot: looks like 3.2GB or thereabouts. you won't ever get the full 4GB in 32 bit, because the motherboard uses some of the address space |
| 13:58.22 | f00bar80 | Titan8990, what if i only want to start with a debian as a router ?? |
| 13:58.25 | iceroot | mesaGL: its amd64 |
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| 13:59.00 | mesaGL | iceroot: doesn't matter what chip it is. what matters is whether it is 32 bit or 64 bit |
| 13:59.02 | fale | Justin: I'm trying to put a program that asks a password into the crontab |
| 13:59.12 | Justin | fale: what is 'a program' ? |
| 13:59.14 | iceroot | mesaGL: system is amd64 |
| 13:59.28 | fale | Justin: unison |
| 13:59.33 | Justin | you're doing it wrong. |
| 13:59.38 | iceroot | mesaGL: but maybe its a vm and someone added a strange ram-value |
| 13:59.44 | fale | why? |
| 13:59.45 | Titan8990_ | f00bar80, again... is your need to have a firewall or to learn netfilter and linux routing? |
| 13:59.47 | Justin | set up properly secured ssh keys |
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| 14:00.04 | mesaGL | iceroot: i see. this is a hosted system right ? |
| 14:00.04 | fale | I see |
| 14:00.21 | fale | Justin: is the only way? |
| 14:00.30 | Justin | fale: that is the way you should be doing it |
| 14:01.10 | fale | Justin: I can see that, but from the structure of the system, is not so easy |
| 14:01.22 | Sevet | f00bar80: for a simple config see the script on http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/23, read up on iptables to add filtering, replace MASQUERADE with SNAT if your router has a static ip, and remove that line completely if you don't want to do nat |
| 14:01.36 | Sevet | it's a -very- simple config though |
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| 14:01.59 | Sevet | INPUT will do filtering on packets going to the debian box, FORWARD on packets going through it |
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| 14:02.56 | Sevet | there's probably a better howto somewhere else though |
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| 14:03.38 | xci | hmm, it seems that I am missing my ldconfig |
| 14:03.42 | xci | that can be bad |
| 14:04.09 | f00bar80 | Titan8990, yes and just to start with routing |
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| 14:04.55 | f00bar80 | Sevet, which hardware do i'll be in a need of ? |
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| 14:05.39 | Titan8990_ | f00bar80, I would say about a pentuim II with 256mb of a RAM |
| 14:06.58 | iceroot | mesaGL: ah it was a xen-host |
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| 14:07.02 | f00bar80 | Titan8990, and in case my internet connection is adsl, then no need for a adsl router as the debian box 'll do its job , am i right ? also do i still need a phone line splitter ? |
| 14:07.18 | iceroot | mesaGL: xen-host is hsowing complette-ram - guest-ram in free-m |
| 14:07.55 | Justin | iceroot: yes, that's what it does |
| 14:08.01 | Justin | iceroot: xm info will show you how much ram xen sees |
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| 14:11.44 | zaidka | Hi. Whenever my USB modem disconnects, I can't reconnect until I change the device from /dev/ttyACM0 to /dev/ttyACM1. How can I fix that? |
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| 14:12.37 | bolt | zaidka: what happens if it disconnects a second time? does it become ttyACM2? |
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| 14:12.47 | zaidka | bolt, yes |
| 14:13.02 | bolt | zaidka: sounds like it resets itself and gets recognized as an entirely new device or somesuch |
| 14:13.11 | zaidka | exactly |
| 14:13.17 | zaidka | it wasn't like that in a prevoius distro |
| 14:13.19 | karihre | f00bar80: you will need an internal modem (that actually works) or an external one to handle the ADSL, and if you have other phone devices you need a phone splitter (given that you have only one outlet) |
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| 14:14.03 | zaidka | bolt, any advice? |
| 14:14.14 | bolt | zaidka: i think it happens by default every time you completely unplug a usb device and replug it. my mouse does that, though xorg takes care of it. |
| 14:14.23 | f00bar80 | karihre, any guide on how to configure it with the routing in debian ? |
| 14:14.31 | bolt | zaidka: unfortunately, since the mouse keeps working, i have not investigated the issue. |
| 14:15.03 | karihre | f00bar80: there are plenty of tutorials out there |
| 14:15.12 | karihre | you need iptables for the routing |
| 14:15.14 | zaidka | bolt, ok. Is it a software problem that makes it disconnects in the first place? |
| 14:15.32 | karihre | depends how you are connecting the modem how you connect t oit |
| 14:15.41 | bolt | zaidka: probably firmware. like, it resets itself when it loses connection |
| 14:15.57 | bolt | zaidka: or did the disconnects also not happen with the previous distro? |
| 14:16.00 | Sevet | f00bar: you'll still need an adsl router to convert to/from adsl, although you could use an adsl modem in the debian box instead (you will still need the phone splitter, it keeps voice and internet data separate) |
| 14:16.34 | zaidka | before it used to disconnect less often |
| 14:16.45 | zaidka | even on windows it i think it dosn't disconnect so often |
| 14:17.12 | valdyn | zaidka: does /dev/ttyACM0 go away after a while? |
| 14:17.16 | karihre | f00bar80: if you have a phone on the same phone line you need a _filter_ to all the phones to stop them from messing with the adsl signal |
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| 14:17.35 | zaidka | valdyn: no, it stays there until I restart |
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| 14:18.02 | valdyn | zaidka: sounds like udev could handle this better.. |
| 14:18.12 | valdyn | zaidka: unless the driver really never frees that device |
| 14:19.27 | zaidka | valdyn: any idea how to fix it? |
| 14:19.30 | valdyn | zaidka: the easiest hack i can imagine would add a symlink to do udev rule |
| 14:19.30 | zaidka | or tips |
| 14:20.01 | zaidka | I've never used udev, I'll look into it. Thanks a lot |
| 14:20.34 | valdyn | zaidka: make the udev rule add a link like /dev/current > /dev/ttyACMX |
| 14:20.51 | valdyn | zaidka: but thats a hack and wont work past max X, which is probably 15 |
| 14:21.02 | abrotman | couldn't he use a wildcard udev rule ? kind of like the forcedeth thing ? |
| 14:21.17 | valdyn | abrotman: ACM0 was not freed |
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| 14:21.57 | zaidka | valdyn: I have tried manually deleting ACM0. but when i remove and reconnect the usb, it still uses ACM1 |
| 14:22.08 | valdyn | zaidka: manually deleting is pointless |
| 14:22.38 | valdyn | zaidka: the major and minor numbers are backed by the kernel or not, no matter the name of the device node |
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| 14:23.02 | zaidka | valdyn: do you think this has anything to do with how often my modem disconnects. or is this a totally separate issue? |
| 14:23.32 | valdyn | zaidka: disconnects may be related, but the issue at hand is your modem switching off |
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| 14:24.11 | zaidka | valdyn: it's strange, suddenly the usb lid in the modem turns off |
| 14:24.11 | abrotman | modprobe -r the module first maybe ? |
| 14:24.26 | valdyn | zaidka: modem is switching off -> driver not cleaning up properly -> new ACM gets added as modem gets powered back on |
| 14:24.53 | zaidka | valdyn: that explains it then |
| 14:24.59 | valdyn | zaidka: im just guessing |
| 14:25.01 | zaidka | valdyn: could it be a hardware issue? |
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| 14:25.23 | valdyn | zaidka: hardware always has bugs |
| 14:25.39 | zaidka | valdyn: is there a log I can read that might help? |
| 14:25.46 | valdyn | zaidka: dmesg |
| 14:27.01 | zaidka | here's part of the log: |
| 14:27.06 | zaidka | [15103.608290] usb 6-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6 |
| 14:27.07 | zaidka | [15103.729265] usb 6-2: device descriptor read/64, error -71 |
| 14:27.07 | zaidka | [15103.984489] usb 6-2: unable to read config index 0 descriptor/start: -71 |
| 14:27.07 | zaidka | [15103.984499] usb 6-2: chopping to 0 config(s) |
| 14:27.07 | zaidka | [15103.992486] usb 6-2: string descriptor 0 read error: -71 |
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| 14:27.31 | zaidka | oops. sorry |
| 14:27.48 | zaidka | didn't know the rules.. let me use pastebin or something |
| 14:29.04 | zaidka | valdyn: please see log http://pastebin.com/d6db53cad |
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| 14:30.46 | f00bar80 | karihre, can you poit me to any of those guides, a detailed one ? |
| 14:33.53 | Titan8990_ | f00bar80, THE guide is on netfilter.org |
| 14:34.22 | iceroot | Justin: i cant use sudo for xm info :) but thats ok, now i have the reason for 3.2gb ram |
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| 14:35.25 | Titan8990_ | f00bar80, http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/index.html |
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| 14:39.07 | valdyn | zaidka: i cant make much of that except that the device seems broken |
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| 14:39.39 | abrotman | zaidka: if you unload/reload the module .. can you use the original device? |
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| 14:39.47 | zaidka | valdyn: the hardware itself? |
| 14:39.58 | valdyn | zaidka: possibly |
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| 14:40.20 | jimmy_ | i accidentally whole lenny |
| 14:40.40 | valdyn | zaidka: thats not very useful information - > broken devices is neither rare nor the exception |
| 14:40.51 | valdyn | zaidka: drivers work around hardware bugs |
| 14:40.57 | zaidka | valdyn: no, if i remove the usb plug and replug it, it uses the same device |
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| 14:42.01 | zaidka | there's no firmware update for the modem |
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| 14:47.10 | karihre | f00bar80: there is also the problem on connecting to the modem |
| 14:47.17 | karihre | f00bar80: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user@lists.debian.org/msg558712.html |
| 14:47.20 | karihre | here is something |
| 14:47.28 | karihre | I'd google debian adsl modem ppp |
| 14:47.30 | karihre | or something |
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| 14:47.46 | aprendiz001 | hi all |
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| 14:48.49 | zaidka | Im reading in the modem manual. it says i need to "mknod /dev/ttyACM0 c 166 0". what does that do? |
| 14:49.06 | aprendiz001 | how can I separate the fields with ; I use this command cat logFTPTransfer | awk '{print $6;$7;$8;$14}' > logFTPTransfer.excel |
| 14:49.09 | aprendiz001 | ? |
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| 14:49.33 | Psi-Jack | zaidka: That makes a character device node type 166, device 0. |
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| 14:49.55 | redeeman | hello, does anyone know how i can make dhclient not write a default route? |
| 14:50.25 | aprendiz001 | I have it |
| 14:50.26 | zaidka | Psi-Jack: why does my modem already works without it? |
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| 14:50.48 | zaidka | Psi-Jack: Is this a legacy thing? |
| 14:50.49 | Psi-Jack | zaidka: Possibly because devfs already created it for you based on hal? |
| 14:50.59 | zaidka | Psi-Jack: thanks |
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| 14:52.38 | HackeMate | hello, can i install xchat with tcl8.5? i try to do it via repository, but it forces to use tcl8.4 |
| 14:52.55 | HackeMate | i dont know if there is a parameter to change that, or i need install via source (i tried this way, but i get many errors and gave up) |
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| 14:53.55 | HackeMate | im on lenny |
| 14:54.01 | abrotman | what's wrong with tcl8.4? |
| 14:54.07 | Psi-Jack | HackeMate: That's because xchat and tcl are binary packages in Debian, thus Xchat is compiled with tcl8.4's libraries. |
| 14:54.12 | salih | hi, how can I solve this problem? http://pastebin.com/m49c12d1a |
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| 14:54.45 | HackeMate | abrotman: nothing wrong with tcl8.4, but tcl8.5 has better features |
| 14:54.59 | HackeMate | coding for 8.4 existing 8.5 is just unproductive since there is a 8.6beta already |
| 14:55.09 | abrotman | HackeMate: tcl8.5 is in lenny .. but xchat is compiled against 8.4 |
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| 14:55.22 | Titan8990_ | HackeMate, did you get xserver fixed? |
| 14:55.38 | HackeMate | Titan8990: kinda :) i talked to you yesterday, but i guessed you was afk |
| 14:55.41 | salih | hey guys, it is urgent http://pastebin.com/m49c12d1a |
| 14:56.01 | abrotman | salih: does 'aptitude update' have the same issue ? |
| 14:56.03 | HackeMate | i said startx &> start.log gave nothing because startx doesnt crash, it just sends a wrong resolution or something like that |
| 14:56.14 | HackeMate | i installed the nvidias driver from nvidia.com, and worked |
| 14:56.20 | HackeMate | not my favourite way, but... |
| 14:56.34 | HackeMate | i wanted to post it in somewhere, but i had no logs to show |
| 14:56.58 | HackeMate | with nv driver, works too |
| 14:57.11 | HackeMate | the same xorg.conf for all drivers works fine except nvidia repository |
| 14:57.21 | salih | abrotman: still is the same |
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| 15:01.50 | heroxbd | Hi. Why can not I use the executables for linux Powerpc on IBM AIX? I think they are all powerpc.. |
| 15:02.17 | valdyn | !aix |
| 15:02.17 | dpkg | rumour has it, aix is the unix from the universe where Spock had a beard, or pronounced "aches", or more evil than HP-UX, or 'I can't believe it's not Unix'. Err, wait, it's IBM perverted bastard of Unix. |
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| 15:03.07 | valdyn | heroxbd: different unices arent binary compatible |
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| 15:05.04 | nigihayami | guys please help me. I can't find the problem. I imported pgp keys but still is the same http://pastebin.com/m49c12d1a |
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| 15:06.22 | heroxbd | valdyn: I see. So I will compile again... I guess AIX linux toolkit will help... |
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| 15:09.20 | xoveruk | hi, can someone explain to me why unexpand doesnt convert the spaces to tabs correctly? I am using a simple test file, two words to spaces apart. |
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| 15:11.20 | Justin | xoveruk: did you read the man page? |
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| 15:12.34 | xoveruk | yes, but i still dont get whats going on |
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| 15:12.44 | Justin | xoveruk: what options are you running it with? |
| 15:12.48 | mesaGL | xoveruk: unexpand -t8 is prolly what you want. but i hate tabs == 8 spaces. tabs should be exactly 2 spaces, in my view. but anyways |
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| 15:13.41 | xoveruk | when i do unexpand -t 8 my 2spaces turn into single spaces |
| 15:13.59 | Justin | xoveruk: 2 is not 8 |
| 15:14.01 | xoveruk | i thoight it was supposed to turn each space into a length of t long? |
| 15:14.23 | Justin | uh, unexpand - convert spaces to tabs |
| 15:14.26 | Justin | not convert spaces to spaced |
| 15:14.37 | Justin | maybe you should be using sed instead? |
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| 15:14.47 | xoveruk | so what is the t option for? |
| 15:15.02 | Justin | xoveruk: what does the man page say it is for? |
| 15:15.05 | xoveruk | isnt that for specifying how long you want each tab to be? so if you have two space that equals 16 by default? |
| 15:15.06 | mesaGL | xoveruk: -t8 turns each group of 8 spaces into a tab |
| 15:15.30 | Justin | xoveruk: a tab does not have a length. |
| 15:15.43 | xoveruk | it says this: have tabs N characters apart instead of 8 (enables -a) |
| 15:15.57 | Justin | I think you are confusing an ascii text file with the visual representation of one |
| 15:16.08 | Scorpiion | HI, can I'm trying to make an debian chroot with debootstrap for my NAS (an Lacie ED Mini) a guy did it here http://luon.net/~admar/journal/LaCieEthernetDiskMini.html (step 4).. I have tried to do it now and it goes well until I get the message the kernel is to old when I try to chroot into the debian dir.. I read that it had to do with different versions of libc (chroot is copied from my the chroot into the NAS and the NAS has an older kernel |
| 15:16.08 | Scorpiion | -arm1-lacie5a) So.. how can I fix this? Maybe build an older version of debian? althought I don't know how.. :/ I did this to build the chroot "sudo debootstrap --foreign --arch=armel lenny DEBIAN-DIR" I guess maybe lenny should be traded for something else? |
| 15:16.20 | Scorpiion | (sorry for long post..) |
| 15:16.57 | Justin | Scorpiion: why are you trying to chroot? |
| 15:17.14 | xoveruk | thanks mesaGL, that helps its not what the man page says that is for sure! |
| 15:17.16 | mhymn | nigihayami: perhaps you need to install debian-backports-keyring and/or debian-archive-keyring ? |
| 15:17.16 | Titan8990_ | Scorpiion, redo it using the official install guide.... there shouldn't be any need to copy binaries from the host system |
| 15:17.46 | nigihayami | mhymn: I already installed |
| 15:18.14 | HackeMate | seeking on packages.debian.org, xchat package uses tcl8.4 on sid even |
| 15:18.16 | Scorpiion | There no really standard way to install debian into an LaCie ED Mini... it's an small NAS... |
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| 15:18.30 | HackeMate | 8.4 is going to be outdated soon :/ |
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| 15:18.53 | valdyn | HackeMate: so? |
| 15:18.53 | Titan8990_ | Scorpiion, but there is a standard way fro deboostrap installation |
| 15:19.05 | Scorpiion | Titan8990: hm.. okey.. |
| 15:19.12 | HackeMate | i need 8.5, but for some reason i cant do it via source either |
| 15:19.22 | HackeMate | well, ill try remove tcl8.4 first |
| 15:19.37 | Scorpiion | Titan8990: but the thing is that my host system does not have chroot.. |
| 15:20.05 | Titan8990_ | Scorpiion, install it |
| 15:20.42 | Titan8990_ | Scorpiion, it should be a part of coreutils on any linux system |
| 15:20.46 | Scorpiion | Titan8990: well.. I'm not sure how easy that would be since there is no package manager involved.. so I would have to compile it.. |
| 15:20.59 | Titan8990_ | Scorpiion, what is the host system running? |
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| 15:21.18 | Scorpiion | Titan8990: as I said it is not a normal linux system.. I'm not sure.. different people say different.. |
| 15:21.20 | Titan8990_ | Scorpiion, you were apparently able to install deboostrap |
| 15:21.31 | Scorpiion | Titan8990: no.. |
| 15:21.42 | Titan8990_ | Scorpiion, then how are you doing a debootstrap installation |
| 15:21.43 | Scorpiion | Titan8990: that I do from my desktop.. |
| 15:21.57 | Justin | Scorpiion: run the chroot that is located in the chroot directory |
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| 15:22.04 | Scorpiion | Titan8990: I do it from my desktop.. then compess and move it over to the NAS.. |
| 15:22.24 | Titan8990_ | Scorpiion, and your desktop is running what? |
| 15:23.02 | Scorpiion | Justin: How do you mean? that's pretty much what I'm doing.. I copyed the /usr/sbin/chroot from the chroot system in that path in the NAS... |
| 15:23.20 | Titan8990_ | Scorpiion, I still don't think I understand.... you should have a linux system with debootstrap and the NAS mounted somewhere on that linux system |
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| 15:23.31 | Justin | Scorpiion: oh. you didn't need to copy it. if that didn't work you probably have to make it use the lib in the chroot |
| 15:23.33 | Scorpiion | Titan8990: Kubuntu.. but it has nothing to do with this I think since I made an lenny chroot... |
| 15:23.38 | Titan8990_ | Scorpiion, then you should use debootstrap to populate that NAS with a base debian filesystem |
| 15:24.05 | Justin | Scorpiion: try LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/chroot/lib /chroot/usr/sbin/chroot /chroot |
| 15:25.07 | Titan8990_ | Justin, chroot should be pulled down as part of coreutils when you runs debootrap on the mounted network drive |
| 15:25.15 | Titan8990_ | s/you/he |
| 15:25.25 | Justin | Titan8990_: so? |
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| 15:25.49 | Scorpiion | Justin: ehm... I not sure about that..? my main problem I think is that my systems (the NAS) kernel is to old and the debian one is to new.. so they have different libc.. |
| 15:25.50 | Titan8990_ | so, there should be no need to manually copy a chroot binary... something is getting done incorrectly |
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| 15:26.15 | Justin | Titan8990_: where did I tell him to copy the chroot binary? |
| 15:26.26 | Justin | Scorpiion: yes, which is why I gave you a command that should use the debian libc |
| 15:26.50 | Justin | if that doesn't work I don't know enough about arm stuff to fix it |
| 15:26.53 | Scorpiion | Justin: mhm.. okey.. I did not get what that meant... |
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| 15:28.50 | Scorpiion | hehe |
| 15:28.50 | Scorpiion | MasterStorage /root # LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/debian/lib/ /home/debian/usr/sbin/chroot /home/debian/ |
| 15:28.50 | Scorpiion | Segmentation fault |
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| 15:29.04 | Scorpiion | hm.. |
| 15:29.06 | Justin | yeah, it's not looking good |
| 15:29.21 | Scorpiion | well no.. |
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| 15:30.04 | Scorpiion | Justin: so what do you think about my first thought? try to install debian with an older kernel? becuase it did work for this guy.. http://luon.net/~admar/journal/LaCieEthernetDiskMini.html |
| 15:30.04 | becky | Scorpiion, review $PATH variable first |
| 15:30.20 | becky | then guess how the variable shoudl be set correctly |
| 15:30.29 | Justin | Scorpiion: maybe he used etch? |
| 15:30.54 | cusco | hi... how can I tell if a machine as a pci-E slot? |
| 15:31.18 | Justin | Scorpiion: he also doesn't give the exact command he ran.. but he says he used powerpc |
| 15:31.19 | Scorpiion | Justin: not sure.. but that would not give me an older kernel? |
| 15:31.21 | Justin | Scorpiion: sounds like you have a different box |
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| 15:31.34 | Justin | Scorpiion: no, it would give you an older system that might work with the older kernel |
| 15:31.42 | Justin | Scorpiion: what does uname -a on the box say? |
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| 15:31.49 | Scorpiion | Justin: yeah.. I'm not sure about that.. mine says arm anyway.. |
| 15:31.58 | Scorpiion | or uname does.. |
| 15:31.59 | cusco | ok dmidecode --type slot |
| 15:32.01 | cusco | just told me |
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| 15:32.53 | Scorpiion | Justin: MasterStorage /root # uname -a |
| 15:32.53 | Scorpiion | Linux MasterStorage 2.6.12.6-arm1-lacie5a #1 Tue Oct 31 11:26:21 CET 2006 armv5tejl unknown |
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| 15:32.58 | Sevet | cusco: there's also lspci, which'll list pci express chipsets if you do |
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| 15:34.06 | Dumbix | is there someone who uses squid ? |
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| 15:34.12 | cusco | Sevet: no, I wanted to know if I had a empty pci-e slot |
| 15:34.16 | cusco | thanks |
| 15:34.19 | Justin | Scorpiion: try etch ? |
| 15:35.06 | Scorpiion | Justin: does not seam to work with debootstrap? |
| 15:35.42 | Scorpiion | Invalid realese file, no entry for main/binary-armel/Packges |
| 15:35.58 | Justin | Scorpiion: ah, you have a edmini v2. that guide was written for the first edition |
| 15:36.42 | Scorpiion | Justin: oh yeah.. I had missed that.. |
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| 15:37.03 | Justin | Scorpiion: looks like the NSLU2 runs the armv5tel, and debian works great on that |
| 15:37.09 | Scorpiion | well it still should go to fix this.. but that explains the powerpc part.. |
| 15:37.20 | Dumbix | I got the same problem here " http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux-help/119223-squidguard-help-please.html |
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| 15:38.11 | Scorpiion | Justin: yeah somehow it should be possible! |
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| 15:39.00 | Justin | Scorpiion: there is a nslu2 wiki that may have an approach you can try |
| 15:39.02 | Scorpiion | when I just run "debootstrap {options} lenny SOME_LOCAL_DIR" where is it that debootstrap looks for the name lenny? |
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| 15:39.44 | Justin | Scorpiion: dpkg -L debootstrap |
| 15:39.57 | Scorpiion | Justin: okey.. I look that upp a little.. I used the first step from here http://buffalo.nas-central.org/wiki/LS_Pro_Debootstrap_Howto |
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| 15:48.45 | Scorpiion | Justin: hm.. did not help me that much.. can I chrro into an arm version of debian somehow? |
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| 15:49.10 | Justin | Scorpiion: yeah, I think you just need an older arm system like etch |
| 15:49.12 | Scorpiion | now I just get error cannot run command /bin/bash Exec format error |
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| 15:49.23 | Justin | Scorpiion: oh? etch didnt work either? |
| 15:49.31 | mynd | Has the ping command in debian been ported to windows? I want to be able to use something that is similar to "ping -f" |
| 15:49.49 | Scorpiion | Justin: I can't try it.. it will not download.. :/ |
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| 15:50.07 | Justin | Scorpiion: i bet if you look you can find a premade tarball of an arm etch system somewhere |
| 15:50.22 | Justin | or if not that a disk image that you can convert to a tarball |
| 15:51.04 | Scorpiion | hm.. maybe.. can it have to do with the fact that my host machine runs an ubuntu kernel? (or my laptop to be exact arch linux on this one) |
| 15:51.15 | Justin | Scorpiion: host system is irrelevant |
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| 15:51.26 | Scorpiion | Justin: okey.. |
| 15:51.27 | Justin | Scorpiion: all debootstrap does is unpack packages |
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| 15:51.50 | ranix | Scorpiion: can you rephrase and repeat your original problem again? |
| 15:51.51 | Scorpiion | well my thought was that I did not have the same sources to get packages from? |
| 15:51.58 | ranix | I'm fairly well-versed in embedded Debian |
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| 15:52.19 | ranix | but I lost it in the scrollback |
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| 15:52.42 | Scorpiion | ranix: okey, I have an LaCie ED Mini v2, (uname = Linux MasterStorage 2.6.12.6-arm1-lacie5a #1 Tue Oct 31 11:26:21 CET 2006 armv5tejl unknown |
| 15:52.46 | Scorpiion | ) |
| 15:53.01 | Scorpiion | and I'm trynig to install an chroot of debian |
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| 15:53.19 | Justin | ahh, what is armv5tejl? |
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| 15:53.28 | ranix | Scorpiion: ok, what media are you installing it on? Is this a simple standalone hard disk? |
| 15:53.31 | Justin | armv5tejl not being armv5tel probably matters |
| 15:53.32 | garrythefish | in how much channels do you have to banned to be baned in freenode all together? |
| 15:53.36 | rafuch0 | quick question i am checking my syslog and all i see is dhclient failed you know like when you you do dhclient eth1 and there is no dhclient offers the thinh is that i am not using dhclient i have static ip in my /etc/network/interfaces |
| 15:53.56 | Justin | rafuch0: running network manager or something? |
| 15:54.06 | rafuch0 | no i purge wicd |
| 15:54.11 | Scorpiion | I followed this guide http://luon.net/~admar/journal/LaCieEthernetDiskMini.html (that was for version one) and my problem is that when I try to chroot into the debian system I get this "MasterStorage /root # chroot /home/debian/ |
| 15:54.11 | Scorpiion | FATAL: kernel too old |
| 15:54.11 | Scorpiion | " |
| 15:54.22 | ranix | ah |
| 15:54.31 | Titan8990_ | garrythefish, ask #freenode |
| 15:54.32 | Justin | ranix: you think an etch chroot would work? |
| 15:54.42 | LemensTS | im trying to setup exim4 so i can email out using php mail(). I dont want any mail coming in, and only mail going out should be form the mail() function. Its a static ip server, do i do 'mail sent by smarthost; no local mail' ? |
| 15:54.52 | Justin | LemensTS: yes |
| 15:55.19 | ranix | Justin: 2.6.12 is actually very old, in fact 2.6.12 hasn't been used since Sarge |
| 15:55.22 | Scorpiion | ranix: do you understand my problem now? :) |
| 15:55.27 | Justin | ah |
| 15:55.31 | Justin | Scorpiion: sarge might work then :) |
| 15:55.39 | Scorpiion | okey |
| 15:55.42 | ranix | Scorpiion: arge might work but I question the utility of a sarge chroot |
| 15:55.45 | LemensTS | justing: 84-16-251-30.internetserviceteam.com <---what is that, its used in the fields as default |
| 15:55.59 | Justin | LemensTS: that is your hostname, probably |
| 15:56.02 | ranix | Scorpiion: can you perform a raw installation of Debian to this device? |
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| 15:56.33 | Scorpiion | ranix: no.. not really.. |
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| 15:57.05 | Optic | hey, I'm wondering what the Correct Debian Way to update grub's menu.lst is? I want to switch the boot to volume uuids from a specific root path |
| 15:57.17 | Optic | but if I edit menu.lst directly it gets blown away on a dpkg kernel update |
| 15:57.33 | Justin | Optic: read the top of menu.lst? |
| 15:57.38 | Optic | oh is it there? :) |
| 15:57.40 | Optic | blushes |
| 15:57.44 | Scorpiion | ranix: I have not tried to do something like that anyway.. the way I got ssh on it was geting the harddrive out and add an remote exploite to the webserver.. |
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| 15:58.29 | sigmonsays | How does update-grub work if i'm using a initramfs* image ? |
| 15:58.33 | Optic | ooooh thanks :) |
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| 15:58.39 | Optic | slinks off |
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| 15:58.48 | Justin | sigmonsays: it should autodetect the initramfs |
| 15:58.56 | ranix | Scorpiion: does it have a serial port? |
| 15:58.57 | Scorpiion | Why do I get "E: Failed getting release file http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/Release" ? it works only with lenny for my.. hm.. |
| 15:59.07 | sigmonsays | Justin, It does not. I guess I write my own |
| 15:59.17 | cr3rzemjest | how do i copy stuff from 1 dir to another so that everything is still the same? [contents of mounted iso to a dir] |
| 15:59.42 | Scorpiion | ranix: ehm.. not on the outside.. maybe maybe on the inside.. on the board but not any contact or simular.. not that I'we spotted.. |
| 15:59.50 | cr3rzemjest | cp -pdr ? |
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| 16:00.06 | cr3rzemjest | or -P as well? |
| 16:00.07 | Justin | Scorpiion: you have to find a mirror that still has sarge.. archive.debian.net should work |
| 16:00.21 | Titan8990_ | cr3rzemjest, cp -a or rysnc -a |
| 16:00.40 | cr3rzemjest | Titan8990_: thx |
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| 16:01.00 | funyun | i am unable to ssh into my dedi server. usually when i do "ssh user@server.ip" i get "user@server.ip's password:". i enter the password and i'm good to go. but now i simply get "Password:". no password i enter works, but after the 3rd attempt i get the usual "user@server.ip's password:". but even then, i am unable to connect. does anyone know what's going on? |
| 16:01.00 | Scorpiion | Justin: okey.. that's way.. should I write in the whole mirror url instead of just sarge? |
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| 16:01.41 | Justin | Scorpiion: http://ftp3.nrc.ca/debian-archive/ looks like it will work |
| 16:01.47 | ranix | Scorpiion: I'm pretty sure you could update the kernel on this thing if you tried |
| 16:01.50 | Justin | see http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive |
| 16:01.59 | Scorpiion | ranix: here is some info about my device.. and some picture in the bottom link.. |
| 16:02.01 | ranix | Scorpiion: yank the drive and connect it to a Debian machine |
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| 16:02.37 | ranix | Scorpiion: see if it boots via Grub |
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| 16:02.59 | ranix | Scorpiion: you can back up the drive for freedom with screwing with everything |
| 16:03.00 | Justin | ranix: ah right.. what are the chances the kernel is on the drive and not in flash somewhere? |
| 16:03.01 | Scorpiion | ranix: you mean now? :P haha well how.. it does not have any VGA? or how do you mean? |
| 16:03.04 | cr3rzemjest | can you tell me something i don't know that i should know |
| 16:03.12 | ranix | Justin: fairly high, I bet it uses redboot to start |
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| 16:04.27 | Scorpiion | oh you mean that I should remove all other disks from my desktop.. and just insert the HD from the NAS... hm.. |
| 16:04.35 | ranix | no? |
| 16:04.39 | garrythefish | TROLL POWER! |
| 16:04.42 | Scorpiion | no.. |
| 16:04.57 | ranix | Scorpiion: insert the disk from the NAS additionally |
| 16:05.00 | Scorpiion | no that would not work.. |
| 16:05.01 | ranix | Scorpiion: and have a look around |
| 16:05.04 | abrotman | garrythefish: Do you have a Debian question? |
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| 16:05.24 | garrythefish | nice distro and all |
| 16:05.42 | Scorpiion | ranix: what should I look for? can't I do that from my ssh season? I just don't understand the difference? |
| 16:05.49 | funyun | i am unable to ssh into my dedi server. usually when i do "ssh user@server.ip" i get "user@server.ip's password:". i enter the password and i'm good to go. but now i simply get "Password:". no password i enter works, but after the 3rd attempt i get the usual "user@server.ip's password:". but even then, i am unable to connect. does anyone know what's going on? |
| 16:06.17 | Justin | ranix: ah, if you are just looking for grub you could dump the mbr from ssh and see what it contains :) |
| 16:06.23 | ranix | Scorpiion: take the drive out and get it somewhere you can control. Look for things that you recognize like a /boot/ partition or a kernel and stuff |
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| 16:06.44 | ranix | Scorpiion: you can also do like Justin says and dump the first 440 bytes of the drive to see if Grub is on it |
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| 16:07.14 | ranix | Scorpiion: if you can back-up this drive to another drive, then you can fuck with it all you like in all sorts of ways without risking destroying anything |
| 16:07.19 | dukebody|kth | Hello, I have a server system using the testing branch. I'd like to switch to stable (lenny), but I'm unsure if the transition can break anything. Is there a way to make a backup of the installed packages (the .debs, not just a list of them) so I can restore the previous system if something fails? |
| 16:07.35 | abrotman | !downgrade |
| 16:07.36 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. Also see <partial downgrade>, or <sdn>, or <unstable->testing> |
| 16:07.44 | rafuch0 | xfce4 comes whit a network manager? |
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| 16:07.50 | ranix | Scorpiion: from what I see on this page: http://jim.studt.net/edmini/ it's possible you can make this device run a full version of Debian |
| 16:07.53 | garrythefish | i tried to install it, but had some booting problems with GRUB. i was torchering myself for days with no result. |
| 16:07.58 | ranix | I'm pretty sure I could, anyway |
| 16:08.03 | Scorpiion | ranix: well that true I guess... do you think I should back it upp completly and try to reinstall it from scrath? |
| 16:08.21 | garrythefish | shame, it's the distro i liked most and suited me most |
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| 16:08.42 | ranix | Scorpiion: first find out how it boots, if it uses flash space for its kernel or if it uses grub |
| 16:08.46 | cr3rzemjest | woah woah woah etc. free -m ->>> Mem: total: 2019 used: 1938 free: 81 0 11 1599.. !!!!! how do i find out WTF is going on??? i have barely few terminals opened! |
| 16:09.01 | Scorpiion | ranix: that the one I followed from the beggining.. but it does not install a complete debian system.. |
| 16:09.16 | dukebody|kth | abrotman: I know downgrade is not possible that's why I want to backup my current installed packages somewhat, like a snapshot, to be able to install them again with something like dpkg -i < ls backup-packages-folder |
| 16:09.28 | ranix | Scorpiion: if it has the kernel on the disk in the root partition you can back it up to like vmlinuz.old and install a newer kernel |
| 16:09.32 | ranix | and see if it boots |
| 16:09.43 | Scorpiion | ranix: okey.. but how more exacly do I "dumt the first 440 bytes"? |
| 16:09.50 | Justin | !tell cr3rzemjest about free ram |
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| 16:10.05 | themill | dukebody|kth: sure -- /msg dpkg reinstall |
| 16:10.07 | cr3rzemjest | but my laptop becomes unstable |
| 16:10.59 | cr3rzemjest | xorg 360mb, swiftfox 250mb.... thats barely 600mb... where's the other 1200mb? |
| 16:11.00 | garrythefish | if there were less problems with booting, i imagine linux heaven... ah, well :P |
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| 16:11.23 | cr3rzemjest | i'm just going to reboot |
| 16:11.25 | ranix | Scorpiion: dd if=/dev/sdwhatever of=- bs=440 count=1 | hexdump -C |
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| 16:12.42 | dukebody|kth | themill: won't dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt create *a list* of packages? I won't be able to retrieve them from the servers later, right? Or am I wrong? Do the repos store all the released versions of a certain pkg? |
| 16:13.33 | iluminator101 | hi, how do allow java.exe and javaw.exe on firestarter |
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| 16:14.03 | themill | dukebody|kth: correct, it only makes a list of the packages. The .debs should still be on the mirrors for you to install them again if needed. |
| 16:14.16 | Scorpiion | ranix: that gives me MasterStorage / # dd if=/dev/sda of=- bs=440 count=1 | hexdump -C |
| 16:14.16 | Scorpiion | 1+0 records in |
| 16:14.16 | Scorpiion | 1+0 records out |
| 16:14.24 | dukebody|kth | themill: thanks |
| 16:14.26 | \amethyst | dukebody|kth: dpkg --get-selection doesn't record the version numbers, only the name of the package and whether it's marked to be installed, removed, etc |
| 16:14.28 | themill | dukebody|kth: (the mirrors store the current version of the package that is each release) |
| 16:14.29 | ranix | yeah I just realized that doesn't actually work |
| 16:14.43 | Scorpiion | hehe okey.. then it was not just me.. |
| 16:15.14 | ranix | Scorpiion: instead of of=- use of=/tmp/dump and hexdump -C /tmp/dump | less |
| 16:15.16 | jhc_ | Hi, I can ping debian.org but apt-get can't resolve debian.org correctly. Any clues to what is happening ? |
| 16:15.16 | LemensTS | Justin: here is a log of the exim4 mail() attempt... http://pastebin.ca/1668369 im not sure what it is, about all i found on google was to change iptables http://forums.theplanet.com/lofiversion/index.php/t39491.html |
| 16:15.21 | Scorpiion | ranix: if it's good to know the box has BusyBox |
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| 16:16.12 | ranix | Scorpiion: dd if=/dev/sdwhatever bs=440 count=1 | hexdump -C |
| 16:16.15 | Justin | LemensTS: you set up your smarthost wrong |
| 16:16.15 | ranix | that one works |
| 16:16.24 | ranix | I forgot of can be blanks |
| 16:16.34 | Justin | LemensTS: you had to actually put the hostname of the smarthost server when it asked you |
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| 16:17.12 | garrythefish | can someone kick me from the channel please? thanks in advance |
| 16:17.23 | Titan8990_ | garrythefish, /part |
| 16:17.59 | garrythefish | nope, i want an unhonourable discharge. :( |
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| 16:18.11 | Scorpiion | hm.. |
| 16:18.13 | Scorpiion | MasterStorage / # dd if=/dev/sda bs=440 count=1 | hexdump -C |
| 16:18.13 | Scorpiion | 00000000 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................| |
| 16:18.13 | Scorpiion | * |
| 16:18.13 | Scorpiion | 000001b0 |
| 16:18.13 | Scorpiion | 1+0 records in |
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| 16:18.21 | Titan8990_ | garrythefish, that couldn't be more pointless |
| 16:18.37 | LemensTS | Justin: are there any free smarthost servers that i can put in? |
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| 16:18.50 | Justin | LemensTS: ugh. you need to learn how email works |
| 16:19.09 | garrythefish | i didn't install debian, and got some stupid GRUB errors. i deserve it |
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| 16:19.39 | cr3rzemjest | during boot, or shutdown i can see commands being executed twice, on screen layout generally messed up. how to find out what caused this |
| 16:20.25 | garrythefish | so i have to violate the rules here to get kicked? i don't want to do that. debian rocks : |
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| 16:22.22 | garrythefish | can somebody please kick me? sorry for flooding, but i just have to be kicked |
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| 16:22.41 | jhc_ | Hi, I can ping debian.org but apt-get can't resolve debian.org correctly. Any clues to what is happening ? |
| 16:23.02 | azeem | jhc_: debian.org is a domain, not a machine |
| 16:23.07 | azeem | so you need to be more specific |
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| 16:23.46 | azeem | garrythefish: please keep it on topic |
| 16:23.55 | azeem | you've been silenced for 10 minutes |
| 16:26.29 | jhc_ | azeem: yeah I know it was just to shorten my sentence. I can ping ftp.fr.debian.org, but my apt-get fails on it because it can't resolve it |
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| 16:27.01 | LemensTS | Justin: i know. i tryed smtp.gmail.com::587 and get connection timed out |
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| 16:31.39 | reber | hi all. i have this error at boot : The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2 filesystem. If the device is valid and it really contains an ext 2 filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else) then the superblock is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: e2fsck - 8193 <device>. Is it safe to do that ? |
| 16:32.30 | reber | root (/) cannot be mounted then |
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| 16:33.27 | azeem | reber: boot a live cd and e2fsck the partition |
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| 16:35.01 | garrythefish | you poopie heads! can i get kicked now? |
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| 16:36.10 | iluminator101 | i wanted to sync ufw with gufw, but one problem i get this error when i try to start gufw |
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| 16:37.28 | Titan8990_ | iluminator101, ask #ubuntu |
| 16:39.21 | abrotman | ufw is in debian |
| 16:39.24 | reber | azeem, done already. Nothing changed. |
| 16:39.38 | azeem | reber: what was the outcome? |
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| 16:39.54 | Titan8990_ | abrotman, i just searched for it, didn't see it. then i googled it as saw it stood for "ubuntu firewall" |
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| 16:40.00 | abrotman | judd: versions ufw |
| 16:40.01 | judd | abrotman: ufw -- sid: 0.29-5 squeeze: 0.29-5 |
| 16:40.30 | iluminator101 | (gksudo:5044): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_str_has_prefix: assertion `str != NULL' failed |
| 16:40.45 | reber | azeem, partition perfectly clean. I forced the fsck. Clean again. But the same error. Notice the : "the superblock is corrupt" in the message |
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| 16:41.43 | iluminator101 | well java is being blocked, is there a special port for java or how does that go |
| 16:41.49 | Bombo | hi, i want to compile a new kernel for my lenny, so i apt-get source linux-source-2.6.26 then make menuconfig then fakeroot make-kpkg kernel_image, but i get an error: "arch/x86/kernel/nmi_32.c:467: internal compiler error: in var_ann, at tree-flow-inline.h:191" what to do to fix that? |
| 16:41.51 | Titan8990_ | iluminator101, did you get it from the squeeze repos? |
| 16:41.57 | reber | the partition was perfectly moutable too, i even chrooted into it. |
| 16:42.04 | iluminator101 | Titan8990:yes |
| 16:42.05 | reber | *mountable |
| 16:42.11 | hark | iluminator101: do you have a sudo user? |
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| 16:42.15 | Titan8990_ | iluminator101, have you checked the BTS? |
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| 16:42.51 | iluminator101 | whenever check stuff on bts i get nothing back, i must doing something wrong or the search is not working |
| 16:43.17 | iluminator101 | hark:no sudo user |
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| 16:43.25 | hark | iluminator101: bugs.debian.org/packagename is easier |
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| 16:44.13 | hark | !dbugs 550670 |
| 16:44.17 | dpkg | #550670:M[gufw] gufw: Menu entry doesn't work if user is not a sudoer (); Mon, 12 Oct 2009 01:54:01 UTC [] |
| 16:44.30 | abrotman | sounds like a useless utility |
| 16:45.07 | cusco | hi... |
| 16:45.22 | cusco | I may have an akward question, it may have been asked a few times before |
| 16:45.34 | ranix | !ask |
| 16:45.34 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 16:45.52 | hark | iluminator101: so don't run it from the menu, but manually |
| 16:45.55 | iluminator101 | what do you guys suggest for a firewall, when i get another box, going i am setting up a dedicated ipcop firewall on it but meanwhile whats good alternative |
| 16:46.05 | cusco | is there a way to create a virtual video device... (so I could use software to think it is a webcam or so...) and make it stream my screen? |
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| 16:46.19 | iluminator101 | hark i ran it from terminal |
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| 16:46.32 | exes | sometimes when I sudo su it will grant me root and then immediately type exit |
| 16:46.41 | exes | which breaks me back to my user prompt |
| 16:46.44 | Titan8990_ | iluminator101, i run pfsense on my firewall... pf is very nice |
| 16:47.11 | Titan8990_ | exes, same behavior with sudo -i? |
| 16:47.21 | surlyjake | +1 pfsense |
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| 16:47.35 | ranix | cusco: I don't know |
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| 16:47.44 | exes | Titan8990_: not sure |
| 16:47.49 | exes | Titan8990_: I haven't tried such |
| 16:47.55 | Titan8990_ | exes, test it |
| 16:48.00 | hark | iluminator101: what's the command you used? did you use "gksu gufw"? |
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| 16:49.44 | iluminator101 | hark no just gufw |
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| 16:50.39 | hark | oh it must be in /usr/bin .. |
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| 16:51.55 | iluminator101 | Titan8990: pfsense do you run that on a separate pc or |
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| 16:52.01 | Bombo | is it possible to compile a new kernel with lenny? or is gcc broken? |
| 16:52.27 | hark | iluminator101: so the package is messed up, either see how to fix it or try running it using "gksu gufw" |
| 16:52.40 | markybob | uh |
| 16:52.44 | hark | !find bin/gufw |
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| 16:53.03 | iluminator101 | i use gksu and it works thanks....i am not too impressed |
| 16:53.29 | iluminator101 | Titan8990:permission to pm |
| 16:54.41 | hark | registers dpkg for himself |
| 16:54.51 | iluminator101 | pfsense is niice |
| 16:54.54 | cusco | ok thanks ranix |
| 16:55.01 | cusco | another question.. about vnc.. |
| 16:55.14 | iluminator101 | Titan8990 i need some pointers on how to set it up though |
| 16:55.22 | cusco | is there a way to have vnc negotiate the listening port with the router automatically trough upnp |
| 16:55.36 | cusco | or have the client computer actally listen and make a reverse vnc connection? |
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| 16:56.11 | Titan8990_ | iluminator101, sure |
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| 17:05.27 | SparFux | Hi all. I have a strange error with debian unstable using ifupdown and guessnet. In this setup: http://pastebin.com/m1c143013 the bootup and network configuration of eth0-home works ok, but not eth0-rike. on rike network I get RTLINKNET device not found. After doing ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 even eth0-rike works ok, so it's only a bootup problem. What is wrong with that? |
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| 17:07.23 | babilen | garrythefish: Why would I want to "KICK YOU" ? In related news: please don't msg me |
| 17:07.38 | Inazad | hi, I'm currently programming a shell script who had the extract a zip file with the following name : MyBackup20091111.zip. How I can get the date of yesterday ? Now I'm just getting MyBackup20091112.zip ? |
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| 17:08.27 | Zambezi | I have a GPS-logger (PL2303) and I want to draw a map or at least get data from the walk. Any suitable applications in Lenny? I only know Google earth will do it. |
| 17:08.49 | llutz | Zambezi: viking |
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| 17:09.18 | f00bar80 | if i'm using debian vmware image running on windows machine, can i setting it up to act as a gateway to my network ? |
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| 17:09.47 | llutz | Inazad: yesterday = today - 86400 seconds |
| 17:09.57 | Zambezi | llutz: Thanks. I tried aptitude search GPS, but no viking there. I give it a shot. |
| 17:10.27 | llutz | Zambezi: maybe you'll need gpsd and/or gpsbabel too |
| 17:10.38 | themill | Inazad: date -d "yesterday" |
| 17:10.45 | Inazad | llutz, I have this : myFile=MyBackup`date '+%Y%m%d'`.zip |
| 17:10.50 | bigpresh | query camelbot |
| 17:11.06 | bigpresh | Gah, dammit, a / would help. Sorry. |
| 17:11.06 | llutz | themill: too easy :( |
| 17:11.11 | Inazad | can we do date '+%Y%m%d-1' ?' |
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| 17:11.49 | Zambezi | llutz: Definetly gpsbabel. I install all three. |
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| 17:12.39 | andres833 | debhelper, |
| 17:12.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | Zambezi, merkaartor? |
| 17:13.01 | endri | hi i want to use a terminal command with a specific proxy. how can i do that |
| 17:13.33 | Sevet | endri: what type of proxy? http? |
| 17:13.33 | mesaGL | date -d@$(($(date +%s) - 86400)) |
| 17:13.36 | \amethyst | endri: http proxy or socks proxy |
| 17:13.42 | aixenv | abrotman u around? |
| 17:13.47 | llutz | Zambezi: have a look on qlandkarte(gt) too |
| 17:13.53 | themill | mesaGL: eww! |
| 17:13.53 | endri | socks proxy |
| 17:13.55 | endri | sorry |
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| 17:14.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmm, probably not so surprising that maemo mapper isn't in debian |
| 17:14.14 | Inazad | themill, I simply do myFile=MyBACKUP`date -d "yesterday"`.zip ? |
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| 17:14.23 | endri | the one that you create with ssh -D |
| 17:14.30 | endri | i think is socks |
| 17:14.36 | Sevet | try the socks_proxy environment variable |
| 17:14.40 | Zambezi | CutMeOwnThroat, llutz: Alot now. This require me to make a note to remeber all until next time. :-) |
| 17:14.43 | Sevet | (but it needs support from the app) |
| 17:14.51 | themill | Inazad: well, you still want your formatting string in there too: myFile=MyBackup`date '+%Y%m%d' -d yesterday`.zip |
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| 17:15.01 | Sevet | export socks_proxy="127.0.0.1:8080" |
| 17:15.08 | llutz | Zambezi: take your time and test. there are different apps, not all may offer what you need |
| 17:15.14 | themill | Inazad: You might also fine $( ... ) is more convenient and more readable than ` ...` for these things. |
| 17:15.15 | \amethyst | endri: if the app doesn't support SOCKS directly, you can try using tsocks to trick it into doing so |
| 17:15.17 | Sevet | then run the terminal command |
| 17:15.47 | \amethyst | if you want to sent an env var just for a single command, you can also do socks_proxy="127.0.0.1:8080" theapp |
| 17:16.16 | Inazad | themill, so if the date is 2009-11-01, it would be 2009-10-31 right ? :P I hope |
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| 17:16.45 | endri | thanks. very userful! |
| 17:16.49 | themill | Inazad: -d yesterday will correctly do the subtraction, yes. |
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| 17:17.22 | Inazad | themill, ok thanks ! |
| 17:17.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | Zambezi, next to maemo mapper, there was 'roadmap' under maemo, don't see that in debian either... http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=276135 you could package it, though :) |
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| 17:18.46 | Inazad | themill, now hot to verify if the file exists ? if [-f $myFile]; then ... else ... fi ?? |
| 17:18.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's amazing how stuff doesn't get done if people don't do it |
| 17:19.19 | Zambezi | llutz: I'll find out. I need to jog too, but I have problem with my my ankle and tendent, so not for now. Maybe a careful walk. |
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| 17:21.09 | Zambezi | CutMeOwnThroat: I have to see. It's for walks, jogs, bicyclerides only. I think the packages you and llutz will be fine. I'll try them first. |
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| 17:21.40 | themill | Inazad: yeah. "$myfile" would be better though. "/msg dpkg bash" for some guides to bash scripting or ask in #bash (once you've read the guides!) |
| 17:22.08 | Inazad | ok |
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| 17:23.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | Inazad, spaces! [ -f $file ] ; |
| 17:23.53 | themill | err yeah, that too |
| 17:23.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | dun't workx without enuf space |
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| 17:25.21 | zach242 | How can I tell my memory module speed in my dell workstation? |
| 17:25.31 | themill | !myram |
| 17:25.31 | dpkg | [myram] install and run 'dmidecode -t memory' as root to see RAM info, or also install i2c-tools pkg, if available to you (lenny/squeeze/sid), modprobe eeprom, and run decode-dimms for much more detailed info. For Etch users, try the lm-sensors pkg, and see /usr/share/doc/lm-sensors/examples/eeprom/decode-dimms.pl and other docs. Try 'lshal | grep smbios' to obtain mainboard and BIOS info. |
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| 17:25.57 | zach242 | themill: thank you |
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| 17:27.04 | zach242 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:30.34 | Justin | zach242: go to crucial.com, they have a memory selector form |
| 17:30.52 | Justin | zach242: just pick the dell model you have and they'll tell you exactly what kind you need |
| 17:31.14 | aixenv | !kmuto |
| 17:31.17 | dpkg | For Debian Lenny (or Etch) installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ . The included <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files in 0627 images are required to be moved prior to network hardware detection, see comments of http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2630-lenny.htm |
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| 17:31.56 | benedikt | zach242: you have to have the right numbers of pins also. laptop memory sticks can be a pain. |
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| 17:36.50 | cusco | im using vnc -listen , other machine connected here fine (I can see the connection on the console) but no screen pops up |
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| 17:39.49 | dase | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.3/multi-arch/iso-cd/ is broken ... |
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| 17:45.09 | sepski | dase, define broken ? |
| 17:45.33 | ranix | !broken |
| 17:45.33 | dpkg | Telling us that something is broken is fairly useless. You need to tell us exactly what is failing, and what you expected it to do. Ask me about <doesn't work>, or http://www.delib.co.uk/dblog/categories/images/blog/lolcat.jpg |
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| 17:47.33 | nigihayami | hey guys how can I solve this problem: http://pastebin.com/m535371fc |
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| 17:48.28 | markybob | nigihayami, you read the instructions on the backports site. http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions |
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| 17:48.49 | dase | sepski: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.3/multi-arch/iso-cd/ i see only the netinstall versions |
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| 17:48.59 | nigihayami | markybob: actually I have read it |
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| 17:52.03 | sepski | dase, you are in the multiarch directory, i belived those was only netinstallers. what arch are you looking for ? |
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| 17:53.46 | dase | sepski: i didnt know it. I am not in the near of the computer. I HOPE it was x86 |
| 17:54.03 | dase | to be secure, i would download the multiarch iso :( |
| 17:54.17 | dase | but there are only netinstall isos :( |
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| 17:54.23 | abrotman | aixenv: ? |
| 17:55.25 | sepski | dase, run dpkg-architecture |
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| 17:56.46 | dase | sepski: the pc is in the shop of a friend and there wasnt a os. (But _MY_ pc say: bash: run: command not found :O) |
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| 17:57.09 | cusco | im using vnc -listen , other machine connected here fine (I can see the connection on the console) but no screen pops up |
| 17:57.25 | Bombo | i want to compile a new kernel (lenny), but i get an error: "arch/x86/kernel/nmi_32.c:467: internal compiler error: in var_ann, at tree-flow-inline.h:191" what to do to fix that? trying to compile linux-2.6-2.6.26 using "gcc version 4.3.2 (Debian 4.3.2-1.1)" |
| 17:57.43 | simonrvn | dase: the command is 'dpkg-architecture' not 'run ...' |
| 17:58.00 | dase | simonrvn: ooh ^^ sorry |
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| 17:58.58 | dase | hmmm. bash: dpkg-architecture: command not found |
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| 18:00.49 | simonrvn | it's in dpkg-dev, which you don't have installed |
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| 18:04.14 | fantasticulous | hey guys, you have a spam bot called iZmir |
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| 18:07.06 | fantasticulous | great, a model of efficiency :P |
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| 18:08.42 | rgr | anyone here have any comments about stability/effictiveness of the curent (8th nov) debia testing netinst iso? A remote machine I take care of just hosed itself in a(spit) Ubuntu upgrade so have decided to move it over to Debian. Testing working great for me here but htis machine will need to install from ISO CD. |
| 18:09.02 | fantasticulous | ptooey! |
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| 18:10.48 | wildc4rd | evening all |
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| 18:12.14 | cahoot | rgr: I believe the recommended way is install lenny then 'upgrade' |
| 18:13.14 | rgr | cahoot: really that is better? |
| 18:13.23 | rgr | I can do it that way of course too. |
| 18:13.30 | rgr | Anyone else? |
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| 18:13.53 | rgr | Any pearls of wisdom to cast down before the swine? |
| 18:15.18 | rgr | (as a side note, I never ever saw a pc more hosed than when I upgraded to Ubuntu 9.10 on this machine (its basically a net point and music player for a small bar) : totally and utterly broken from the first part of the boot - I will never install Ubuntu again!) |
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| 18:15.50 | fantasticulous | you own a small bar? |
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| 18:19.59 | hark | why not just go for lenny instead? |
| 18:23.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | lenny instead of a small bar? |
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| 18:24.29 | rgr | fantasticulous: I do indeed. Free guinness for me. It just makes sense. |
| 18:24.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | and if you want to avoid trouble, use lenny |
| 18:24.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | also avoid bars :-P |
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| 18:24.57 | rgr | hark: because Lenny is too backwards and I cant be arsed with backports etc. |
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| 18:25.22 | teddymills | avoid lenny and bars...Lenny is too high maintenance |
| 18:25.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | lenny is barely a year old |
| 18:25.23 | rgr | I have used lenny/stabole and testing for a few years now and its a myth that "stable" has no problems. |
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| 18:25.35 | hark | rgr: isn't it just for net usage and music? |
| 18:25.38 | hark | remote machines + testing can be trouble |
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| 18:25.49 | rgr | I know that current testing rocks on my desktop at home. |
| 18:26.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | rgr, that's not the point - lenny doesn't get *new* problems - so if you have solved whatever problems you encounter, you can sit back for a while |
| 18:26.09 | rgr | and I want them as close in sync as possible. Of course I undersatnd the concerns of using testing too :-) |
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| 18:26.30 | rgr | CutMeOwnThroat: this machine wont be upgraded a lot once working but I do of course take your point. |
| 18:26.46 | rgr | What I will do is install Lenny and then see what works and what doesnt and then maybe move to testing |
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| 18:27.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | it did/does get bugfixes, though, so the number of problems should be a lot smaller than in testing |
| 18:27.08 | rgr | damn slow iso download from debian site, |
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| 18:27.24 | whammo | !dmm |
| 18:27.24 | dpkg | i heard dmm is Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm lenny> <dmm etch> <dmm squeeze>. |
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| 18:28.01 | rgr | this time no more amarok though. A more convoluted mess of a UI I never saw. Trying to teach the staff how to use it was like pulling teeth,. Rythmbox all the way now. If I can find a decent normaliser for it. |
| 18:28.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course, having really new hardware might be problematic, as only newer kernels support it... but there's kamuto |
| 18:28.11 | pipeline | amarok 2 is terrible |
| 18:28.19 | rgr | amarok1 was bad enough |
| 18:28.19 | JPT | amarok is nice :> |
| 18:28.21 | pipeline | amarok 1.4 is dead because it's not portable to kde4 |
| 18:28.22 | tohenrik | ja det er FAEN MEG nice |
| 18:28.35 | rgr | and its SO "KDE" its not nice on Gnome IMO. |
| 18:28.38 | tohenrik | ja det er FAEN MEG nice |
| 18:28.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | mm |
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| 18:29.04 | teddymills | just install mythdora..or knoppmyth or geekbox..any one of those multimedia distros would be much better..or just install XMBC...XBMC rocks... |
| 18:29.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | damn, I knew using a kde program would just end up in trouble |
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| 18:29.28 | teddymills | I would patron any bar cool enough to run XBMC :) |
| 18:29.44 | whammo | I find using plain old XMMS (or whatever current fork) offers good incentive to keep your music library organized and tagged |
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| 18:30.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | the player should play music. period |
| 18:30.23 | rgr | xmms is another mess. functionally great but crap UI. |
| 18:30.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | all tagging and sorting can be done by something else |
| 18:30.32 | rgr | eastag is ok |
| 18:30.34 | rgr | easytag |
| 18:30.38 | ranix | My system is sending cron event emails to /var/mail/ranix. How do I alter this to deposit them in /var/mail/root? I recall a dpkg-reconfigure for it but I'm having trouble getting Google to divulge this information :( |
| 18:30.51 | _SKiTZO | if i want to make my own debian install cd based on the official one (just adda few drivers and tools that I need) where would I start? |
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| 18:30.56 | whammo | how is it crap? it has transport buttons, playlist, and equalizer right there? |
| 18:30.58 | teddymills | all id tags are terrible...filenames work best |
| 18:31.05 | rgr | ranix: there is a mail line in the cron file |
| 18:31.13 | ranix | thanks rgr |
| 18:31.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | ranix, it's normally sent to root, but root has an alias in /etc/aliases |
| 18:31.21 | rgr | whammo: because its messy and unintuitive. functionally great. design 1/10. |
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| 18:31.39 | abrotman | xmms is dead upstream pretty sure |
| 18:31.45 | abrotman | xmms1 that is |
| 18:31.50 | ranix | perfect, that was it CutMeOwnThroat |
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| 18:32.09 | aixenv | whats the quickest/best way to boot a > 2TB xfs partition? |
| 18:32.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | and xmms2 it just a box full of mp3-player pieces |
| 18:32.11 | maligor | and xmms2 is entirely different in every possible way |
| 18:32.12 | rgr | lol. I lose track. I have about 30 audio players installed. And guess what I use ... mpd via emacs! |
| 18:32.16 | teddymills | amarok is mighty buggy..if it is running, i just leave it alone... |
| 18:32.22 | aixenv | i know grub wont recognize >2tb, and i believe i need to make it GPT |
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| 18:32.37 | rgr | teddymills: but they did some dumb stuff with the mysql DB backend stuff too I think. |
| 18:32.49 | _SKiTZO | ingen som vet? |
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| 18:32.55 | aixenv | booting off a unbuntu live cd |
| 18:33.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | he said the u-word |
| 18:33.17 | whammo | heh |
| 18:33.19 | _SKiTZO | lol |
| 18:33.24 | rgr | things : damn. Please tell me I multiparitioned that damn Ubuntu machine so I dont have to reinstall the music .... |
| 18:33.25 | _SKiTZO | uh-oh |
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| 18:33.47 | rgr | oops, me too :-; |
| 18:33.50 | abrotman | rgr: you could uh .. back up the data ? |
| 18:34.04 | rgr | what part of "reinstall" confuses you :-; |
| 18:34.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, what an idea... |
| 18:34.12 | _SKiTZO | aixenv: are you having trouble boting your 2tb partition? |
| 18:34.16 | _SKiTZO | what are the symptoms? |
| 18:34.23 | whammo | so has anybody seen a current xmms fork that supports last.fm? |
| 18:34.24 | aixenv | yea, im thinking i need to run 'parted' |
| 18:34.32 | _SKiTZO | the quickest way would be to turn on the computer after installing grub i guess |
| 18:34.34 | rgr | I do have a backup : but as is usual with this stuff newer CDs got added. I actually used rsync across the net to sync too ;:-))) |
| 18:34.52 | aixenv | _SKiTZO: grub wouldnt install so i tried lilo and im getting the dreaded 99 99 99 crap |
| 18:35.00 | rgr | (rsync is one of those things you wonder how you can do without with : awesome) |
| 18:35.10 | aixenv | im pretty sure i can use parted to switch the partition to gpt |
| 18:35.13 | aixenv | is that correct? |
| 18:35.26 | _SKiTZO | gpt = ? |
| 18:35.44 | _SKiTZO | ah |
| 18:35.53 | aixenv | GUID partition table |
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| 18:36.13 | _SKiTZO | aixenv: did you try other loaders besides lil & grub? did you try different versions? syslinux? |
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| 18:36.27 | _SKiTZO | maybe there is a laterversion of grub that fixes it or a patch |
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| 18:36.56 | _SKiTZO | i dont have experience with booting of a 2tb partition because I usually have a separate boot partition |
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| 18:37.30 | aixenv | yea i didn't wanna do that if i dont have to |
| 18:37.34 | _SKiTZO | i did make a 6.4TiB xfs volume on top of lvm once but i stilll partitioned a separate 200MiB boot partition |
| 18:38.23 | _SKiTZO | axisys: why not is my question then. i know it hurts inside but it works |
| 18:38.44 | aixenv | i dont wanna redo the instlal |
| 18:38.44 | _SKiTZO | either that or separate drive |
| 18:38.47 | aixenv | takes forever |
| 18:38.56 | _SKiTZO | hm but im sure there are ways to shrink the fs? |
| 18:39.04 | aixenv | im pretty sure i can change the fdisk type to gpt |
| 18:39.17 | _SKiTZO | then you can shrink the partition and add a second part for boot |
| 18:39.24 | aixenv | no need to do that |
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| 18:41.02 | marcin_ | Hi. Does anyone here use SQL relay? |
| 18:41.02 | whammo | would anybody know why my LMMS doesn't output any sound? vkeybd and qsynth are playing fine at 64ms latency right now |
| 18:41.06 | _SKiTZO | then i am unable to help you |
| 18:41.15 | HackeMate | i have a dvd writer, but nerolinux says i have no permission to access it |
| 18:41.24 | HackeMate | need i any kind of group for myself? |
| 18:41.31 | HackeMate | i think it was working fine until now |
| 18:41.39 | _SKiTZO | HackeMate: its just punishing you for downloading too little pron :P |
| 18:41.52 | HackeMate | what¿ |
| 18:41.59 | newbie | Anyone know why my Apache VirtualHost configuration is so incorrect? |
| 18:42.00 | newbie | http://pastebin.ca/1668564 |
| 18:42.14 | _SKiTZO | why would anybody use a commercial burning app in linux |
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| 18:42.44 | HackeMate | i tried it because every burning apps said doesnt find any cd writer |
| 18:42.50 | _SKiTZO | heh |
| 18:42.53 | HackeMate | at least it gave me a clue, but i always use k3b |
| 18:42.56 | _SKiTZO | in debian? |
| 18:43.00 | HackeMate | anyway, i think i can use anything i want |
| 18:43.02 | HackeMate | debian lenny |
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| 18:43.18 | newbie | Please tell me why my VirtualHost configuration is so wrong? |
| 18:43.25 | newbie | try any site at mohopedia.com or .net or .org, and it shows hampedia.org with no CSS |
| 18:43.33 | _SKiTZO | the i think your question would be "why doesnt any burning software find my cdwriter" |
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| 18:43.50 | Titan8990_ | newbie, you assigned DocumentRoot /opt/mediawiki-1.13.0rc1/ but not configure directory directives for that path |
| 18:43.55 | _SKiTZO | HackeMate: im not trying to be anoying or anything. |
| 18:44.06 | HackeMate | _SKiTZO: you are getting it though |
| 18:44.20 | _SKiTZO | HackeMate: haha sorry :P |
| 18:44.20 | HackeMate | i didnt asked why i should use free software or not, i was just experimenting |
| 18:44.33 | HackeMate | my quest is: why i cant access to cd writer? |
| 18:44.37 | HackeMate | eject command also fails |
| 18:44.52 | _SKiTZO | HackeMate: sure but you should know that most peopple in this chanel takes FOSS very seriosly andsome might even get offended |
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| 18:44.59 | {Fah-Q} | check the permissions on /dev/cdrom (whatever that points to) |
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| 18:45.19 | HackeMate | brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 64 nov 12 07:26 /dev/hdd |
| 18:45.45 | clarjon1 | HackeMate: is your user in the cdrom group? |
| 18:45.48 | {Fah-Q} | ok, good, so only root or people in the cdrom group can use it |
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| 18:46.50 | HackeMate | clarjon1: i were looking so |
| 18:46.51 | HackeMate | seems not |
| 18:46.56 | HackeMate | usermod -a -G cdrom hackemate, right? |
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| 18:47.03 | HackeMate | and relog |
| 18:47.34 | cheako | Hello, I'm using puppet to auto-configure hosts. I need a package from testing(shorewall6) is using apt-pinning the best way? |
| 18:47.51 | Titan8990_ | !ssb |
| 18:47.51 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
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| 18:49.43 | flo|linux | hi |
| 18:49.46 | cheako | Titan8990_: Do you think an automated daemon like puppet could perform such a error prone operation w/o user intervention? |
| 18:50.03 | flo|linux | is it possible to install debian from an existing linux system? |
| 18:50.20 | cheako | flo|linux: debootstrap |
| 18:50.28 | abrotman | !tell flo|linux about debootstrap |
| 18:50.30 | Titan8990_ | cheako, i have not worked with puppet |
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| 18:50.48 | HackeMate | thanks |
| 18:51.03 | cheako | Titan8990_: you have not worked with automated daemons like puppet? |
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| 18:51.24 | _SKiTZO | !tell _SKiTZO about debootstrap |
| 18:51.27 | cheako | Titan8990_: Never worked with cron-apt? |
| 18:51.46 | clarjon1 | HackeMate: Success? |
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| 18:52.16 | Titan8990_ | cheako, no... cron-apt just sounds like a bad idea to me |
| 18:52.24 | flo|linux | thx =) |
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| 18:53.03 | cheako | Sure it is a bad idea for doing other unsafe things. |
| 18:53.07 | abrotman | Titan8990_: you can configure it to do it different ways |
| 18:53.16 | flo|linux | how good are the german wiki pages for debian? |
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| 18:53.29 | flo|linux | are they ways older than the english ones, or are they up to date? |
| 18:53.32 | Titan8990_ | I will stick to manual update until I have a server farm to manage |
| 18:53.32 | abrotman | better than my german? :) |
| 18:53.32 | themill | Titan8990_: all it does is run "apt-get update" and download the debs (not install them) by default. |
| 18:53.58 | cheako | If the goal is just to do normal safe things the it's about as bad as apt-get -b source packagename; install the resultant debs. |
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| 18:55.23 | Titan8990_ | cheako, safer than installing the binary that was created for another branch/distro |
| 18:55.25 | c4pt | anyone use xen 3.4 on debian? if so i was wondering how i can get wireless networking to work in conjuction with xen + debian? |
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| 18:55.49 | Titan8990_ | c4pt, IIRC only if its a usb wireless device |
| 18:55.56 | flo|linux | do i want to merge packages from different repos? i.e., should i use multistrap? |
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| 18:56.03 | c4pt | Titan8990_: why? |
| 18:56.11 | flo|linux | or does the standard-used not want this? |
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| 18:56.25 | Titan8990_ | c4pt, because USB devices is the only hardware it will allow the VM to have direct access to on the host machine |
| 18:56.31 | cheako | Titan8990_: Ahh, I see. Well your talking about the apples VS oranges evils. |
| 18:56.32 | abrotman | flo|linux: what is multistrap? |
| 18:56.48 | flo|linux | "Debootstrap can only use one repository for its packages. If you need to merge packages from different repositories (the way apt does) to make a rootfs, or you need to automatically customise the rootfs, then use Multistrap. " |
| 18:56.51 | flo|linux | says the wiki |
| 18:56.52 | c4pt | Titan8990_: why though i dont really understand? |
| 18:56.55 | clarjon1 | oh, quick question, anyone know a quick way to get apt to just download packages for a different architecture? |
| 18:56.58 | cheako | Titan8990_: How do you know witch is greater? |
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| 18:57.16 | Titan8990_ | cheako, what do you mean? |
| 18:57.27 | c4pt | Titan8990_: why will it only work with usb and not pci for networking? |
| 18:57.35 | Titan8990_ | c4pt, VM software emulates hardware, it does not give you direct access to hardware on the host machine |
| 18:57.37 | clarjon1 | is trying to get second life to run with gstreamer, but needs an i386 version installed 'specially', since their 32bit viewer doesn't like 64bit gstreamer) :P |
| 18:57.40 | DeeTah | my console keyboard got screwed up, it reacts way too slow. under X it's okay. how to fix it? |
| 18:57.57 | Titan8990_ | c4pt, its all about isolating the host from the guest |
| 18:57.59 | flo|linux | is that debootstrap an interactive installer? |
| 18:58.07 | c4pt | Titan8990_: i mean that the xen on the dom0 breaks wireless |
| 18:58.09 | Titan8990_ | flo|linux, no, its a bash script |
| 18:58.11 | flo|linux | or do i have to manually download the packages and setup everything? |
| 18:58.15 | c4pt | *that |
| 18:58.25 | flo|linux | Titan8990, so, what does it do then? |
| 18:58.27 | cheako | Titan8990_: "apt-get -b source packagename" is prone to just crap out and not work or end up with an package that segfaults randomly or is unusable. |
| 18:58.30 | Titan8990_ | c4pt, are you wanting to do something like wireless injection from the VM? |
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| 18:58.47 | flo|linux | does it install a small base system? or does it ask me about which software i want? |
| 18:59.00 | c4pt | Titan8990_: i want to use my wireless pci device as a network bridge with the host and domU's |
| 18:59.02 | cheako | Titan8990_: Where as Pinning is prone to pull in libraries as well, which might have you end up with a system that has the disadvantages of stable (old software), the disadvantages of unstable/testing (security support not as good as stable, bugs) without the advantages of either. |
| 18:59.17 | themill | flo|linux: just a small base system. Install and run tasksel if you want that later, or just use aptitude. |
| 18:59.58 | flo|linux | ok... |
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| 19:00.01 | cheako | Titan8990_: So the comparison here is software that might not work VS software that will work but might not be secure/best. |
| 19:00.08 | Anon330 | hi |
| 19:00.29 | c4pt | brb |
| 19:00.38 | Titan8990_ | cheako, uhh, what if it was compiled with a different version of libc then you have? are going to upgrade that? |
| 19:00.50 | cheako | Titan8990_: It's apples VS oranges or rather Coal VS Uranium. |
| 19:01.18 | cheako | Titan8990_: That's what http://wiki.debian.org/AptPinning clearly warns of. |
| 19:01.25 | Titan8990_ | cheako, do whatever you prefer, i suppose it depends on the package in question |
| 19:01.25 | DeeTah | my console keyboard got screwed up, it reacts way too slow. under X it's okay. how to fix it? |
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| 19:02.17 | mrkris | installing Debian on a DELL 1950 and i need the giga net driver. I have the pkg for it, but how do I install it from the installer? |
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| 19:03.09 | aibo | hi, I got an error: http://pastie.org/private/7ylkbufrgwbqtsc76id0ng how can i fix it? |
| 19:03.18 | aibo | it's ejabberd issue |
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| 19:05.17 | c4pt | Titan8990_: thanx |
| 19:05.35 | c4pt | Titan8990_: switching from bcm43xx to alfa 54bg works. |
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| 19:05.54 | Bombo | pi gcc-4.3-base 4.3.2-1.1 |
| 19:06.01 | Bombo | what does pi mean? |
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| 19:06.24 | nsadmin | aibo: first you have to read it... then you have to think about what it means... also, have you put the message into google? |
| 19:06.37 | aibo | nsadmin, which exactly? |
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| 19:07.00 | nsadmin | note that I have NOT looked at the message |
| 19:07.03 | greycat | Bombo: the header of the dpkg -l output should say. |
| 19:07.12 | greycat | Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold |
| 19:07.17 | greycat | (P)urge |
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| 19:11.34 | revil | Hi there! I am trying to set up vsftpd for anonymous access. It is recommended that I use a chrooted environment of binaries (as I understand it) with an ftp accessible dir included. What is the debian way (if different) to do this? |
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| 19:12.15 | Bombo | greycat: hmmkay but ... how to get rid of the p then |
| 19:12.22 | revil | I think debootstrap should not be used, as it creates an entire system, not just the ones needed by ftp, |
| 19:12.35 | greycat | whatever you used to mark it as "I want it purged", undo that... |
| 19:12.57 | greycat | revil: you don't need anything more than ls and libc, right? |
| 19:13.05 | greycat | or does it have a built-in ls? |
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| 19:13.27 | Bombo | hm why is gcc-4.3 4.3.2-1.1 and gcc-4.3-base 4.3.2-1.1 but gcc is 4:4.3.2-2 |
| 19:13.55 | revil | greycat, so you propose to simply copy them by hand? |
| 19:13.56 | Bombo | greycat: i guess i tried to dpkg -r it |
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| 19:14.13 | Bombo | or apt-get remove it |
| 19:14.21 | greycat | revil: actually, it appears I have a vsftp installation that's set up for anonymous use, and I've got bin/ls, etc/ld.so.cache, etc/{group,passwd}, and a bunch of things in lib/ |
| 19:14.27 | Bombo | but apt-get install doesnt do anything |
| 19:14.35 | greycat | supposes most of those libs need to be re-copied... |
| 19:15.19 | vlt | Hello. What kernel boot param do I need to make initrd activate my LVM? (Dropping to initrd's shell and just typing `vgchange -ay` manually works.) |
| 19:15.33 | greycat | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 90248 2005-06-07 10:00 lib/ld-2.3.2.so |
| 19:15.33 | greycat | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 113248 2009-01-04 13:11 /lib/ld-2.7.so |
| 19:15.36 | greycat | Heh. |
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| 19:22.58 | Bombo | fs/debugfs/file.c:419: internal compiler error: in var_ann, at tree-flow-inline.h:191 |
| 19:23.27 | Bombo | hm where is that in make menuconfig? cant find anything in 'file systems' |
| 19:26.47 | Titan8990_ | Bombo, filesystems in a top level menu option |
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| 19:35.01 | greycat | Bombo: those are gcc filenames. It's an *internal* error, inside gcc. |
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| 19:48.02 | Bombo | crap |
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| 19:48.53 | Bombo | i found out if i restart make-kpkg after the 'gcc internal error' it just goes on without the error |
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| 19:49.07 | Xenguy | Hi - I need a little help testing a new configuration. Can I trouble someone to wait 5 seconds, then type: Xenguy: test |
| 19:49.10 | Xenguy | ? |
| 19:49.13 | Bombo | so its probably something else |
| 19:49.18 | Xenguy | nm |
| 19:49.27 | Bombo | Xenguy: no ;) |
| 19:49.45 | Xenguy | won't work in this channel (drat) |
| 19:50.01 | zach242 | I installed a debian package via aptitude but cannot find what to execute with it - is there a way to see the file contents? Thank you |
| 19:50.18 | {Fah-Q} | zach242: dpkg -l <packagename> |
| 19:50.30 | Bombo | zach242: big L |
| 19:50.32 | zach242 | {Fah-Q}: Thank you |
| 19:50.50 | Bombo | is it? |
| 19:51.04 | {Fah-Q} | yeah, I stand corrected. It's -L not -l |
| 19:51.17 | {Fah-Q} | -l is for listing installed packages. -L is for listing a packages contents |
| 19:51.19 | Bombo | ;) |
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| 19:51.40 | {Fah-Q} | meh, details... that's what man pages are for :) |
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| 19:52.00 | zach242 | and when I remove the package yet still do dpkg -L, some files still exist |
| 19:52.13 | {Fah-Q} | they're probably config files |
| 19:52.21 | zach242 | {Fah-Q}: yeah, what can I do? |
| 19:52.30 | {Fah-Q} | if you want them gone, do a purge |
| 19:53.12 | {Fah-Q} | like "apt-get purge <package>" |
| 19:53.32 | {Fah-Q} | that should send evertything associated to the package that dpkg knows about to the bit bucket |
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| 19:53.52 | greycat | actually, that's "aptitude purge", or "apt-get --purge remove", or "dpkg --purge" |
| 19:54.07 | greycat | And I think the apt-get one will actually fail. |
| 19:54.33 | zach242 | are there are any tools available to read memory details - I want to get some more memory for my box and want to see what the CL is. I used dmidecode and obtained this information: "Speed: 400 MHz (2.5 ns)" but I don't know the CL (or latency) |
| 19:54.34 | {Fah-Q} | the man page says purge, but yes, there are a few ways to do it |
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| 19:55.05 | greycat | Oh, must be a new change to apt-get. |
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| 19:55.22 | {Fah-Q} | could be, I admit I'm a bit rusty with it |
| 19:55.40 | {Fah-Q} | i generally just glance at the man page for dpkg or apt-get and kind of go from there |
| 19:56.05 | {Fah-Q} | so my advice can be a little sloppy, sorry. |
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| 19:56.32 | mo2000 | hi |
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| 19:58.20 | greycat | "apt-get purge pkgname" on a package in the rc state doesn't do anything, because apt-get sees that it's removed, and stops. |
| 19:58.50 | mo2000 | i have a problem with a (self written) daemon script while shuting down or rebooting... the script have to write 2 GB to disk... called via invoke-init.rd it works perfekt... but on real shutdown the file is broken -> only 1,4 GB |
| 19:58.53 | greycat | But I know "dpkg --purge" will work. |
| 19:59.06 | mo2000 | any idea how i can avoid this |
| 19:59.06 | Hydroxide | greycat: apt-get purge pkgname doesn't do anything because it's bad syntax IIRC :) you mean apt-get --purge remove or aptitude purge |
| 19:59.08 | {Fah-Q} | oh, my misunderstanding. When you said fail, I thought you meant break. |
| 19:59.15 | Hydroxide | greycat: and I think aptitude purge would probably work |
| 19:59.24 | {Fah-Q} | yes, dpkg has never given me a problem |
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| 19:59.37 | greycat | {Fah-Q}: I thought it would not recognize the "purge" keyword, which was my mistake. I also thought it wouldn't work even with "--purge remove", which was correct. |
| 19:59.40 | {Fah-Q} | it is probably the most assured way to clean up and remove a package |
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| 20:00.11 | {Fah-Q} | its all good, thats why we have man pages |
| 20:00.44 | greycat | The man page for apt-get is rather uninformative about this. |
| 20:01.05 | greycat | "purge is identical to remove except that packages are removed and purged" ... "remove is identical to install except that packages are removed instead of installed" |
| 20:01.06 | mo2000 | {Fah-Q}: come one why using man pages, when having someone to ask :D |
| 20:01.19 | greycat | Especially if the man page doesn't say this. |
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| 20:01.52 | {Fah-Q} | mo2000: true, but even after being told I still forget |
| 20:02.02 | mo2000 | :d |
| 20:02.07 | hark | aptitude purge would work |
| 20:02.12 | {Fah-Q} | so it's good to have something to look up the gist of things |
| 20:02.29 | greycat | GNU/Linux man pages are notoriously sloppy. |
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| 20:02.46 | {Fah-Q} | true, and the info pages are often just the man pages redux |
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| 20:05.39 | zaidka | hi, can someone confirm I have the correct permissions for ttyACM device: crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 166, 3 2009-11-12 21:38 /dev/ttyACM3 |
| 20:05.44 | mo2000 | .oO( /me remember the time where are only man pages available... no IRC none to ask... ) |
| 20:06.20 | greycat | mo2000: Usenet. |
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| 20:06.50 | greycat | zaidka: you're not running udev? |
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| 20:07.10 | xxtjaxx | Uhm what file was it to lett all connect to my port 80? |
| 20:07.29 | zaidka | i don't know actually. but when i plug my usb modem, the device /dev/ttyACM0 is created automatically |
| 20:07.38 | mo2000 | greycat: Usenet need connection... i remember the times when 1200 Baud where fast :D |
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| 20:08.05 | {Fah-Q} | mo2000: yeah, when I started learning linux I had no internet access. Long story, but it was a while back... ah... yggdrasil.... |
| 20:08.10 | greycat | I started out on 1200 baud, really. |
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| 20:09.04 | zaidka | greycat: i don't know actually. but when i plug my usb modem, the device /dev/ttyACM0 is created automatically. does that mean im using udev? |
| 20:09.15 | mo2000 | that time i mean was the stoneage... pre Linux... HP-UX, Interactive, SCO and so on... |
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| 20:10.17 | greycat | zaidka: yes |
| 20:10.34 | greycat | HP-UX imadev B.10.20 A 9000/785 2008897791 two-user license |
| 20:10.38 | greycat | mo2000: ^^^ |
| 20:10.55 | zaidka | greycat: so does that mean the permissions are fine? |
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| 20:11.28 | greycat | zaidka: it means, I don't understand why you would think they are NOT. When they're auto-generated by the system, rather than having been made by you some drunken night in 2007. |
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| 20:12.34 | aindriu | Are they prepared isos for ppc debian? |
| 20:12.47 | rafuch0 | hey syslog is showing dhcp failed messages i am using an static ip i dont have any network manager running and there is no cron job running what cut be hapening here? |
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| 20:12.49 | zaidka | greycat: i'm asking because every once in a while when my modem disconnect, i find that it created a new device /dev/ttyACM(X+1) |
| 20:13.10 | zaidka | greycat: so whenever it disconnects, i have to use pppconfig and change the device |
| 20:13.37 | greycat | rafuch0: show the message. |
| 20:14.01 | rafuch0 | ok wait a sec |
| 20:14.14 | HandyGandy | Can someone help me figure out why my laptops time is two hours behind what it should be? |
| 20:15.10 | greycat | HandyGandy: either your set the time zone wrong, or you forgot to install ntp and ntpdate and set them up... |
| 20:15.34 | rafuch0 | greycat: check it out is like when you exec dhclient eth0 or X and there is no reply |
| 20:15.38 | rafuch0 | http://pastebin.com/m4849e84e |
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| 20:16.08 | rafuch0 | and also my /etc/network/interfaces are ste to static no dhcp there no way |
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| 20:17.05 | greycat | rafuch0: well, dhclient is clearly running, for some reason or other. |
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| 20:17.29 | rafuch0 | but you want know something really wack |
| 20:17.42 | rafuch0 | i dont have the command dhclient |
| 20:17.56 | rafuch0 | not in /usr/bin not in /sbin |
| 20:17.58 | nkuttler | rafuch0: pump |
| 20:18.05 | wfb | hello |
| 20:18.09 | rafuch0 | i stop that deamon too |
| 20:18.10 | nkuttler | rafuch0: and it could still be running after you uninstall it... |
| 20:18.26 | rafuch0 | what |
| 20:18.40 | rafuch0 | how how is that ? |
| 20:19.02 | nkuttler | rafuch0: ps auxw | grep -E '(pump|dh)' |
| 20:19.32 | rafuch0 | god |
| 20:19.35 | rafuch0 | you are right |
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| 20:19.49 | rafuch0 | root 5008 0.0 0.0 2172 612 ? Ss Nov11 0:00 /sbin/dhclient eth0 |
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| 20:20.30 | rafuch0 | ohh okei kill -9 ;) |
| 20:21.04 | rafuch0 | ok is dead |
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| 20:22.26 | rafuch0 | nkuttler: thxs bro is soo dead now |
| 20:22.28 | rafuch0 | ;) |
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| 20:27.42 | cire | I know there was a command to link /etc/alternative/javac to the right VM, but I forgot it. Could anybody tell me? |
| 20:27.52 | themill | !update-java-alternatives |
| 20:27.53 | dpkg | Rather than using update-alternatives (or galternatives) to set each individual alternative for java (and there are lots of them!), use update-java-alternatives. To see a list of the valid java alternatives, use "update-java-alternatives --list". To select the sun-java6 java runtime environment, "update-java-alternatives --set java-6-sun". |
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| 20:30.48 | petemc | could anyone confirm if vpnc should be able to connect to a cisco vpn with just a groupname and groupass ? |
| 20:30.55 | _Trinity_ | hey how's support for wirekess keyboards and mice with debian? |
| 20:32.24 | stevenbinion | Hello, could anyone tell me if there is a console based subversion client I can get with apt-get for Lenny. |
| 20:32.42 | Stereo | stevenbinion: why yes, there's svn :) |
| 20:33.01 | stevenbinion | is it easy to use from console? |
| 20:33.04 | khaije|amalt | i see that the current netinst cd for squeeze only supports wep for wlan devices, anyone know if wpa support is planned ? |
| 20:33.14 | stevenbinion | thats the whole package name? "svn" |
| 20:33.20 | themill | stevenbinion: "subversion". |
| 20:33.34 | stevenbinion | thank you. |
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| 20:33.46 | stevenbinion | it generates help in the man pages? |
| 20:34.00 | hark | _Trinity_: works fine |
| 20:34.11 | themill | stevenbinion: run "svn help". For more information, see the svn book: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ . |
| 20:34.54 | stevenbinion | thanks. |
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| 20:35.27 | nkuttler | petemc: not the one i used (long time ago) |
| 20:36.16 | _Trinity_ | hark: is that sort of stuff already built into stock kernels? |
| 20:36.34 | hark | _Trinity_: yes, nothing special |
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| 20:37.49 | _Trinity_ | great |
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| 20:38.52 | petemc | nkuttler: you needed more? thats all the info i see in the .pcf file |
| 20:39.32 | hark | petemc: there's username too |
| 20:39.51 | nkuttler | petemc: i needed group login + user login |
| 20:39.57 | hark | at least from my one experience with it |
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| 20:40.13 | petemc | hark: not in the pcf file, which im told works with windows etc |
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| 20:40.27 | _Trinity_ | hark: I imagine that xorg.conf has to be adjusted though |
| 20:40.27 | petemc | i dont doubt it, as it seems not to work for me now |
| 20:40.57 | hark | petemc: in the pcf the field was called "Username" |
| 20:41.05 | petemc | yes, its blank |
| 20:41.33 | petemc | oh, wait, the username is the same as the groupname |
| 20:42.08 | petemc | but i cant seem to get any combination of that username, groupname and groupass to work for vpnc |
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| 20:42.17 | aixenv | ok quick question, i have a sda1- boot (256M), sda2- / (6tb), sd3 - swap, i'd want to NOT install grub on the MBR and instead install it on /dev/sda1 correct? |
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| 20:44.24 | hark | i tried vpnc when i needed to use vpn, but at work they had configured IPSec over TCP which vpnc did not support. had to use windows then :( |
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| 20:45.00 | hark | _Trinity_: no, just works ootb, at least on squeeze/sid |
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| 20:47.14 | hark | petemc: the groupname is mostly different from the username |
| 20:47.15 | lavamind | hello |
| 20:47.24 | petemc | not in this file |
| 20:48.15 | lavamind | I'm wondering if it's safe to compile debian (stable) source packages (destined for a debian system) under ubuntu (jaunty) |
| 20:48.25 | aixenv | anyone wanna verify my thoutht? |
| 20:48.49 | themill | lavamind: only if it's in a lenny chroot. |
| 20:49.34 | lavamind | themill: ok |
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| 20:51.25 | Villarroel | Hi. |
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| 20:57.03 | peterrooney | is it unusual (or somehow useful) for alsa-utils to put an init script in rcS.d instead of rc2.d ? |
| 20:58.22 | ranix | I don't think it's unusual |
| 20:59.03 | abrotman | isn |
| 20:59.08 | abrotman | isn't it unusual ? |
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| 21:00.38 | aixenv | ok quick question, i have a sda1- boot (256M), sda2- / (6tb), sd3 - swap, i'd want to NOT install grub on the MBR and instead install it on /dev/sda1 correct? *this is using the kmuto cd* or since i made a /boot partition thats <2TB to house the boot files is it ok to just install on the mBR? |
| 21:00.58 | Snadder | Anyone know about an ftp server which can store info about users in mysql? |
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| 21:01.20 | Snadder | or postgresql |
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| 21:01.42 | alturiak | proftpd has modules for both of them |
| 21:02.02 | Snadder | cool |
| 21:02.11 | ranix | peterrooney: looking in my rcS and rc2 directories, there are no alsa scripts in there at all |
| 21:02.16 | ranix | peterrooney: what is in that script? |
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| 21:04.28 | hark | ranix: do you have alsa-utils installed? |
| 21:04.49 | aixenv | k mbr worked, my intuition was right heh |
| 21:04.54 | ranix | hark: indeed |
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| 21:05.22 | ranix | judd: versions alsa-utils |
| 21:05.23 | judd | ranix: alsa-utils -- etch: 1.0.13-2 lenny: 1.0.16-2 sid: 1.0.21-1 squeeze: 1.0.21-1 |
| 21:05.48 | ranix | yep, 1.0.16-2, it is the right version for lenny |
| 21:06.27 | peterrooney | ranix: whati is in the script is the script is not there. |
| 21:06.31 | aixenv | abrotman: just an fyi we got the kmuto to recognize our raid card |
| 21:06.46 | aixenv | "install" and "expert install" would lock up though... had to use "graphical install" go figure |
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| 21:07.25 | Spec | I've upgraded debian from etch to lenny, and now I get errors in my auth.log about a missing /etc/default/locale, due to pam.d/sshd pointing to that file as the envfile=...can I just create a blank file for that? (where di sshd used to get env variables from?) |
| 21:07.26 | ranix | peterrooney: what? |
| 21:07.37 | ranix | peterrooney: that sounds like some kind of Dante's Inferno riddle |
| 21:07.37 | peterrooney | ranix: i'm getting tired of having to sudo alsaconf every time I turn my machine on ( since it's an interactive script, i can't automate it) |
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| 21:08.31 | hark | peterrooney: you should never have to do an alsaconf. find out the right reason instead |
| 21:08.33 | peterrooney | ranix: so, i looked at the alsa-utils package and install scripts, and it makes a link in rcS.d, but not rc2.d (the default debian runlevel) |
| 21:09.35 | ranix | peterrooney: I don't know ehough about alsa to tell you why what you're saying/doing/expecting is wrong, but something about it is wrong |
| 21:09.39 | peterrooney | hark: any ideas what direction i should look (other than the one i've taken, which led to a plausible explanation) ? |
| 21:09.42 | hark | ranix: ls /etc/rcS.d/*alsa* ? |
| 21:10.05 | ranix | oh wait |
| 21:10.10 | ranix | shame on me |
| 21:10.15 | ranix | that was my mailserver |
| 21:10.31 | ranix | I do actually have S50alsa-utils in /etc/rcS.d |
| 21:10.32 | hark | ;) |
| 21:10.59 | themill | !confuse ranix |
| 21:10.59 | dpkg | No, them is their snake tomorrow, ranix? Trousers of the Republic of Swaziland with extra crabpaste. |
| 21:11.25 | peterrooney | ranix: s'ok. i have to deal with mandrake, gentoo, redhat, solaris, depending on the panic of the week. |
| 21:11.27 | Hydroxide | that's...pretty confusing :) |
| 21:11.40 | fale | Is accepted to make a rule such: "install -m 755 skel/* debian/$(cdbs_curpkg)/etc/skel/" in a rules file (creating a deb package) |
| 21:11.46 | ranix | dpkg: Debian seems to be able to take care of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never turn on ip_forwarding on a granite floor after i learned in the eeepc away from the guy much but then it remounts-ro, and then not be okay as it is. |
| 21:11.47 | dpkg | ranix: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 21:12.01 | greycat | I still like moron #1 better. |
| 21:13.09 | pngwn | more #debian political correctness ? |
| 21:13.13 | ranix | peterrooney: so alsa-utils is not creating your rcS.d script? |
| 21:13.23 | peterrooney | ranix: sometimes i forget which options `ls' has |
| 21:13.42 | hark | peterrooney: can't say, it could be a couple of things. |
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| 21:14.05 | peterrooney | ranix: it's creating rcS.d script, but does that get run when my system (like any usual debian system) is set to runlevel 2 |
| 21:14.21 | ranix | peterrooney: indeed it does |
| 21:14.35 | nadd | hi, its been a while, I wanna install Linux on my ipaq, anyone have experience, I was wondering about wlan firmware, do I need to install from hp first, or does Linux have wlan drivers for me separate, like will familiar erase that and use its own there? |
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| 21:15.04 | hark | nadd: what wireless card? |
| 21:15.05 | peterrooney | ranix: hark: Oh, OK. looks like I might be barking up wrong tree. |
| 21:15.13 | ranix | peterrooney: when you start your system from a fresh boot, do you have a /dev/dsp ? |
| 21:15.29 | ranix | and, can you fuser /dev/dsp to see who/what is using it? |
| 21:15.32 | ribasushi | where did iceweasels logo on the top right go |
| 21:15.37 | ribasushi | how can I bring it back? |
| 21:15.44 | nadd | hark the one built in |
| 21:16.28 | peterrooney | ranix: i could only answer that by rebooting... |
| 21:16.36 | peterrooney | ^W |
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| 21:17.58 | hark | nadd: depends on the card |
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| 21:18.11 | nadd | hark how can I find out? |
| 21:18.50 | aixenv | lovely |
| 21:19.01 | aixenv | now im having problems getting the bnx driver to load in the kernel for our nic |
| 21:19.07 | aixenv | i thought the kmuto had support for bnx |
| 21:19.27 | hark | oh i didn't notice it's an ipaq |
| 21:19.36 | aixenv | and 'firmware-bnx2_0.21_all.deb no workie |
| 21:19.57 | nadd | darn gtg |
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| 21:21.30 | hark | aixenv: did you move the firmware files? |
| 21:21.37 | aixenv | hark: yes |
| 21:21.47 | aixenv | i put the /lib/firmware stuff iwth bnx* to old_bnx |
| 21:21.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | greycat, agreed... unparsable request... what bullshit |
| 21:21.54 | hark | aixenv: so what does dmesg say? |
| 21:22.11 | aixenv | broadcom netXtreme II gigabit ethernet driver bnx2 v2.0.1 |
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| 21:24.17 | hark | aixenv: modprobe -r bnx2 && modprobe bnx2. then check dmesg|tail |
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| 21:24.36 | Farhadix | I wanna checkout a source from google code using hg, but it banned it for my country, I have made a tunneling ssh with socks, now how force a program in cli to use this socks to access internet? |
| 21:24.39 | aixenv | want me to manulaly extract the .21 fw files? |
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| 21:25.01 | aixenv | right now there's nothing in /lib/firmware for bnx |
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| 21:25.35 | hark | Farhadix: use tsocks or proxychains |
| 21:25.36 | hark | Farhadix: or if the app supports socks proxy, set socks_proxy |
| 21:26.04 | hark | aixenv: you said you moved the firmware? |
| 21:26.26 | aixenv | hark: here's the deal, there was soem /lib/firmware/bnx* stuff i moved to /lib/firmware/old_bnx/ |
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| 21:27.08 | hark | aixenv: how is that supposed to work? |
| 21:27.11 | aixenv | hark: because i was trying to install firmware-bnx2_0.21_all.deb and it was borking on files being in linux-kernel and in lib/firmware |
| 21:27.27 | aixenv | i imagined since im using the 2.6.30 kernel i should grab the latest firmware for that bnx driver |
| 21:27.58 | hark | !versions firmware-bnx2 |
| 21:28.13 | hark | judd versions firmware-bnx2 |
| 21:28.14 | judd | hark: firmware-bnx2 -- etch/non-free: 0.4+etchnhalf.1 etch-backports/non-free: 0.13~bpo40+1 sid/non-free: 0.13 sid/non-free: 0.14 lenny/non-free: 0.14+lenny1 lenny-backports/non-free: 0.17~bpo50+1 squeeze/non-free: 0.18 sid/non-free: 0.21 |
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| 21:29.27 | hark | aixenv: instead of moving it to old_bnx, move it to bnx2. |
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| 21:30.39 | keith4 | is there an easy way for me to let another user manage user/group ownership and rwx settings of a filesystem subtree? |
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| 21:32.15 | embrik | what do I write to find out if my server is 32 bit or 64 bit? |
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| 21:32.40 | greycat | embrik: file /bin/ls |
| 21:32.58 | embrik | greycat: thansk |
| 21:33.19 | keith4 | depends if you want to know if your hardware supports it, what your userland is, or what your kernel is |
| 21:33.33 | keith4 | (depending on what, exactly, you mean by "server") |
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| 21:34.21 | embrik | keith4: it's a dell poweredge 1800 - server It supports 64 bit, I think |
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| 21:35.05 | praecox | hello gentlemen, I experienced same problem as described here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=502123 |
| 21:35.06 | keith4 | "uname -a" might shed some insight, too |
| 21:35.13 | keith4 | embrik: ^ |
| 21:35.15 | praecox | but I'm actually using Debian Etch |
| 21:35.38 | Farhadix | thanks hark |
| 21:35.42 | hawkar | Debian squeeze |
| 21:35.43 | praecox | after doing apt-get update && apt-get upgrade some packages were upgraded and my xen machine never booted again. |
| 21:35.55 | embrik | keith4: 32 bit is installed - do i have to reinstall etc or is it possible to upgrade |
| 21:36.02 | greycat | keith4: I've run in to an actual case where "uname -a" output lied, and confused some application that was trying to use it to determine whether to install the amd64 or the i386 version of itself. |
| 21:36.15 | keith4 | greycat: aw, crappy! |
| 21:36.47 | greycat | keith4: after an etch->lenny upgrade, Debian decided it wanted to install an amd64 kernel, but it was an i386 userland. |
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| 21:37.03 | keith4 | awesome |
| 21:37.26 | do0ob | hi |
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| 21:37.54 | do0ob | how do i remove the recovery options from grub2? |
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| 21:38.39 | aixenv | hark: sorry got sidetracked |
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| 21:39.29 | hark | do0ob: /etc/default/grub |
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| 21:39.46 | hark | aixenv: did that work? |
| 21:40.11 | t_corr | hey, i am running fdisk -l on my debian installation and i get the following output: http://pastebin.ca/1668885 |
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| 21:40.35 | t_corr | why does it say there is no valid partition table. |
| 21:40.39 | aixenv | hark: yes sir it did, i guess id ef needed the newer firmware though :) ty |
| 21:40.55 | hark | np |
| 21:41.24 | do0ob | hark: well i have /etc/grub.d/ |
| 21:41.48 | t_corr | is it because it is the "main" disk? |
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| 21:42.39 | hark | do0ob: which version of debian? |
| 21:42.48 | keith4 | how do I make it so that a certain user's files are created as rwxrwx---, instead of rwxr--r-- ? |
| 21:42.54 | do0ob | kardan|: debian sid of course |
| 21:43.01 | do0ob | the one you never have to upgrade |
| 21:43.01 | greycat | keith4: set their umask to 002 |
| 21:43.14 | hark | do0ob: and you don't have /etc/default/grub ? |
| 21:43.16 | greycat | keith4: oops, sorry, set their umask to 007 |
| 21:43.46 | do0ob | hark: woops i have that, sorry |
| 21:43.51 | keith4 | greycat: yah... i tried that via his .profile and/or .bash_profile |
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| 21:44.10 | greycat | keith4: are you talking about someone who uses FTP or Samba, or someone who runs an actual shell? |
| 21:44.14 | keith4 | aw crap. i just realized he's probably using SMB to upload these. |
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| 21:44.29 | keith4 | nevermind! (but thanks) |
| 21:44.34 | aixenv | hark: ty for the assist |
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| 21:45.07 | keith4 | greycat: do samba umasks work the same way? |
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| 21:46.38 | keith4 | ah, nm. it's well-documented in the (extremely long) smb.conf manpage |
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| 21:48.37 | infid | apache runs as user 'www-data' but postgres users run as as 'ident sameuser' via unix domain sockets instead of tcp and require no password. However, i need to connect to a database from a PHP page so his doesn't really work. What should i do? Do i have to create yet another user and give it a password? |
| 21:49.57 | Justin | infid: no, configure postgres to also support password auhentication |
| 21:50.18 | infid | Justin so i should create another user and give it a password? |
| 21:50.21 | infid | for web apps |
| 21:50.44 | Justin | postgres does not use system level accounts, so no |
| 21:51.02 | greycat | create a user _within postgres_ |
| 21:51.07 | blurry | infid: what's a web app? |
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| 21:52.07 | infid | blurry web application, like a php page |
| 21:52.27 | blurry | infid: does it have to be in php? |
| 21:52.30 | infid | or anything that can run via apache |
| 21:52.33 | infid | no |
| 21:52.43 | blurry | have you ever heard of twisted? |
| 21:52.49 | Justin | blurry: you're not helping |
| 21:52.57 | Titan8990_ | is it not possible to have multiple essid entries in /etc/network/interface or is that just undocumented by the reverence manual? |
| 21:53.01 | blurry | Justin: oh? |
| 21:53.07 | aixenv | well after fighting with that stupid dells erver, finally got it up and running with the 3rd party raid card thanks to that kmuto iso |
| 21:54.41 | blurry | Justin: so offering options to resolve an issue isn't helping? |
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| 21:55.26 | Justin | blurry: on what planet is suggesting someone use twisted an option to resolve a postgresql configuration issue? |
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| 21:56.05 | aaronorosen | Do you guys have any thoughts about running debian on a laptop? |
| 21:56.19 | greycat | aaronorosen: yes. |
| 21:56.20 | BenBE | Works perfectly ... |
| 21:56.24 | blurry | Justin: on the planet where people know that twisted can do pretty much anything in relation to web applications/services all in one program. instead of having to worry about file permission issues. |
| 21:56.39 | greycat | blurry: it doesn't address the question that was actually asked |
| 21:56.47 | aaronorosen | greycat: I'm running 9.10 ubuntu right now and it seems really buggy so i think i'm going to switch to debian for my laptop i ahve it running on a few of my servers and it works great there |
| 21:56.53 | blurry | greycat: i do believe i asked if it had to be in php. |
| 21:56.57 | blurry | please, read all the words. |
| 21:57.20 | greycat | So you gave an answer to a question _you_ asked, rather than to the question the user asked.... |
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| 21:57.31 | BenBE | Because I just noticed: Current console-setup in testing has incorrect german translation on one menu item: Should be "Deutschland - Akzenttasten deaktivieren" instead of "Akzenttatsen" ... |
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| 21:57.46 | blurry | greycat: in my world, options are a good thing. |
| 21:57.59 | mentor | naughty bot |
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| 21:58.18 | greycat | Nothing wrong with options, but his problem is authenticating to his PostgresQL database, not writing an application. |
| 21:58.30 | blurry | exactly |
| 21:58.44 | greycat | So the answer, as justin and I gave, is to create a user in the DB. |
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| 21:59.09 | blurry | greycat: it's not a pissing contest |
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| 21:59.43 | blurry | an option automatically makes all prior suggestions null and void? |
| 21:59.52 | aaronorosen | BenBE: You were saying debian on a laptop works perfectly? |
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| 22:00.15 | greycat | Even if he rewrites the application in Twisted/Python instead of PHP, he'll still have to create a user in the SQL database in order to authenticate. |
| 22:00.35 | blurry | is that right? |
| 22:00.54 | BenBE | Yes, unless you have some very uncommong WiFi hardware or exotic devices there are no issues you couldn't solve with a little work. |
| 22:01.04 | BenBE | aaronorosen |
| 22:01.05 | aaronorosen | sounds good i'll give it a shot |
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| 22:02.32 | BenBE | You should use a testing netinstall snapshot for install though (personal opinion) as they usually cause less trouble with hardware support. |
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| 22:03.06 | blurry | greycat: respect the snake |
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| 22:05.20 | BenBE | The package rkhunter should use DPKG as the package manager in the configuration file. |
| 22:05.21 | greycat | blurry: I was not insulting python or twisted. |
| 22:05.44 | blurry | greycat: advocating half-truths is the same thing as insulting, isn't it? |
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| 22:07.03 | greycat | Now you're just being cryptic. If I was wrong, say so, and tell me how. |
| 22:07.15 | blurry | ? |
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| 22:07.35 | aaronorosen | Was does debian call firefox iceweasel? |
| 22:08.05 | hark | !tell aaronorosen about why iceweasel |
| 22:09.07 | blurry | greycat: this isn't the right forum for that, but go to #python and say, 'Even if he rewrites his application in Twisted/Python instead of PHP, he'll still have to create a user in the SQL database in order to authenticate.' more efficient, more on-topic and more in-depth explanations there. |
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| 22:09.28 | blurry | but i won't say you were wrong, because you weren't. you were just advocating a half-truth, which is insulting, not wrong. it is half true, afterall. |
| 22:09.34 | hark | lol greycat getting trolled |
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| 22:09.54 | greycat | I'm almost done anyway. Just finishing up this patch & bug report, then I'm leaving. |
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| 22:10.44 | blurry | i'm trolling? |
| 22:10.51 | blurry | this would be a weak troll |
| 22:11.11 | themill | blurry: more signal, less noise please. We've been through this before. |
| 22:11.20 | BenBE | Is there any source where I can get the pfixtools (deb preferred, deb-src acceptable too) |
| 22:11.24 | blurry | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:11.43 | abrotman | blurry: more signal, less noise please. We've been through this before. |
| 22:11.55 | blurry | abrotman: my favorite despot! |
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| 22:14.44 | hark | blurry: being a troll is better than being clueless. so i hope you were the former |
| 22:15.07 | blurry | hark: that's deliciously ironic, don't you think? |
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| 22:15.24 | blurry | i see you're fluent in trollfinger, hark. |
| 22:15.42 | hark | bridge ahead. pay troll |
| 22:16.21 | abrotman | blurry: do you need Debian help? |
| 22:16.27 | blurry | abrotman: of course i do |
| 22:16.39 | abrotman | blurry: then please ask your question |
| 22:17.10 | blurry | abrotman: i'd like to know the seeding routine for /dev/urandom in debian, please. |
| 22:17.30 | abrotman | blurry: look in the kernel source .. if you want to know, you should be capable of reading the source |
| 22:17.38 | themill | blurry: "apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r)" |
| 22:18.22 | blurry | abrotman, themill, thank you. |
| 22:18.31 | abrotman | so much for that ignore ... |
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| 22:18.41 | blurry | the command is /ignore |
| 22:18.43 | blurry | not /ignores |
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| 22:19.54 | blurry | i said thank you and everything |
| 22:20.30 | BenBE | Short question: Is there an easy way to build a source package in a way that the package version is suffixed by a certain string (to make APT keep that package without using a diversion or holding that package)? |
| 22:21.11 | macrobat | what do {u} and {p} after pkgs mean in an aptitude output? |
| 22:21.24 | BenBE | p = purge, u = ??? |
| 22:21.26 | abrotman | probably update/purge |
| 22:21.31 | abrotman | or uninstall |
| 22:21.35 | macrobat | BenBE: yes :) |
| 22:21.36 | BenBE | and {a}? |
| 22:21.38 | blurry | or uganda |
| 22:21.39 | abrotman | auto |
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| 22:21.47 | macrobat | ok, ty |
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| 22:21.59 | abrotman | blurry: seriously, think about if you want to participate here. |
| 22:22.09 | BenBE | MacGyverNL Was that the answer to my question? If so: Could you please explain? |
| 22:22.25 | macrobat | looking for it... |
| 22:22.34 | BenBE | TIA. |
| 22:23.10 | BenBE | Having to modify the changes file for it every time a new update comes is annoying ... |
| 22:23.34 | themill | BenBE: what are you trying to achieve here? |
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| 22:23.45 | macrobat | its somewhere in here, i think: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=38976 |
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| 22:24.25 | doublehp | urgent querry: please any one who have any machine with >1d uptime paste me the output of "uptime" thx. |
| 22:24.44 | Justin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.46 | Justin | that count? |
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| 22:24.47 | doublehp | thx |
| 22:25.18 | BenBE | themill I want to build bind9 with mysql database support for zones (default disabled). And to keep apt from reinstalling the distrib-package I want to add *local1 to the end of the version (thus mine is "more current"). |
| 22:25.39 | BenBE | Doing this by hand basically works, but its annoying when doing this for every package update. |
| 22:26.10 | MorkBork | hmm |
| 22:26.13 | MorkBork | if i was going mysql backed |
| 22:26.16 | MorkBork | id just use powerdns |
| 22:26.18 | BenBE | macrobat I'll have a look ... |
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| 22:28.05 | themill | BenBE: run: dch --local +BenBE "Custom rebuild with mysql" |
| 22:28.13 | Snadder | Is it possible to add 4 hardisks to a raid5 hardware raid array? |
| 22:28.22 | BenBE | MorkBork Well, there are reasons I need to use bind (other software dependencies) |
| 22:28.35 | Snadder | with using lvm.. |
| 22:28.36 | abrotman | Snadder: hw or sw ? |
| 22:28.45 | Snadder | hw |
| 22:28.46 | themill | BenBE: That will append the string +BenBE to the version to the changelog entry straight away and then you can rebuilt it. |
| 22:28.53 | BenBE | themill Thx. |
| 22:29.06 | abrotman | Snadder: probably depends on your controller .. read the docs for the controller |
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| 22:29.11 | themill | BenBE: dch is in the devscripts package btw |
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| 22:30.38 | Snadder | abrotman, do you know if hardware raid cards does io scheduling? |
| 22:31.03 | abrotman | Snadder: some maybe? |
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| 22:31.27 | doublehp | Justin: I am blindtesting an MRTG script; and I found a bug when the machine has <1h ; i needed an >1d to proof test; I had forgotten the exact syntax of the output (to read and parse it). 15mn left to test it :) but should be ok now. |
| 22:31.33 | Snadder | Ok.. so not all of them. |
| 22:31.42 | Justin | doublehp: you should be using /proc/uptime |
| 22:31.47 | BenBE | themill Thx for that info. |
| 22:31.55 | Justin | doublehp: or one of the many scripts i'm sure you could find that already do what you are doing |
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| 22:32.12 | doublehp | Justin: /proc is a good idea |
| 22:32.41 | themill | BenBE: so if you were doing this regularly (yay for bind9 security updates...) a little sed to add the dependencies or modify the rules file would be nice (perhaps just a patch file), then dch, then dpkg-buildpackage and then you're good. Nice and scriptable. |
| 22:32.46 | doublehp | Justin: i am already usiong a script from google :) |
| 22:32.51 | BenBE | themill run within the root of the source tree of bind9? (i.e. /usr/src/bind9-fancy-version-number) |
| 22:32.58 | doublehp | Justin: and fixed 3 bugs in it :) |
| 22:33.12 | Justin | doublehp: are you using mrtg to monitor network stuff, or just system level things? |
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| 22:33.39 | BenBE | themill Rebuilding is done using apt-src update; apt-src build -i |
| 22:34.00 | themill | BenBE: not sure how you're unpacking things there and I've never played with apt-src. |
| 22:34.14 | doublehp | Justin: no network. xDSL disconnexions, connexion uptime (remotly, throught a NAT router, hell to do), and UPS levels (all this have to be hand made; no script for my UPS ) |
| 22:34.22 | themill | BenBE: dch should be run in the directory that contains debian/ |
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| 22:34.43 | Justin | doublehp: i'd look at munin |
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| 22:37.41 | doublehp | Justin: no, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Munin-memory-week.png is not the kind i need. I need one seperate curve per value. So, MRTG doing it well, and munin would not help (except is lighter and faster to generate graphs: MRTG is slow on my machine; and RRD is even worth) |
| 22:38.03 | Justin | oc80z: munin uses rrd, rrd is not the problem usually |
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| 22:38.15 | Justin | munin is nice because it is easy to write custom plugins for and graph all of your machines |
| 22:38.27 | Justin | it is a bit simple compared to something like zabbix but it works |
| 22:38.27 | MorkBork | i use zenoss |
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| 22:38.36 | MorkBork | http://www.runuo.com/mark/zenosscore.png |
| 22:39.00 | Justin | most of the issues with munin are with the frontend, all it needs is some fancy JS which is on the roadmap for the next version anyway |
| 22:39.14 | lhasbs | anyone? |
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| 22:39.23 | MorkBork | no you cant do that lhasbs |
| 22:39.29 | MorkBork | /dev/hdXX are block devices |
| 22:39.41 | lhasbs | are you sure? |
| 22:39.43 | MorkBork | you have to mount them to expose the underlying filesystem |
| 22:40.10 | MorkBork | a directory in xfs compared to a directory in reiser is not going to be something you're going to be able to expose without exposing the entire filesystem |
| 22:40.10 | cmyers | lhasbs: I am confident MorkBork is right unless someone wrote a special filesystem or filesystem driver to accomplish this specific task. |
| 22:40.47 | doublehp | lhasbs: directly, no; but there is a workaround; if you want |
| 22:40.50 | BenBE | Thanks everyone. The dch command did the trick. |
| 22:40.59 | lhasbs | doublehp: yes? |
| 22:41.12 | BenBE | Although I wonder why apt-src discarded some changes on upgrade ... |
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| 22:41.45 | lhasbs | what is the workaround? |
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| 22:41.55 | lhasbs | so there is no way to directly reference something within a block device (with a partition) ? |
| 22:42.19 | MorkBork | you can access a location within it |
| 22:42.26 | MorkBork | a byte offset |
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| 22:42.33 | MorkBork | but who knows where your folder is, and all the files in that folder |
| 22:42.36 | MorkBork | could be anywhere on the disk |
| 22:43.04 | macrobat | how come the scrollback is set so low in console? i get 174 lines above the prompt. can i increase it? |
| 22:43.11 | doublehp | lhasbs: two in fact. In either case, you have to mount the volume any way; let say in /mnt (to make it simple). 1: make /foo a symlink to /mnt/foo ; 2: "mount -o bind /mnt/foo /foo" (unusual syntax, but, I use it; here is my fstab line to make my /home be mounted for my sub-distributions: << /proc /mnt/debian/proc none bind 0 0 >> << /home /mnt/debian/home none defaults,bin |
| 22:43.37 | lhasbs | the reason I aks is that, say I want to do a plain old recursive find starting from /, for sake of example, it will needlessly search both /mnt/hd3/foo and /foo, each eventually |
| 22:43.42 | cmyers | Not actually knowing what the ext driver code looks like, I would *suspect* you could modify it to mount a directory other than "/" as root, based on some parameter you pass to it. I just doubt anyone has needed to do that badly enough to bother to write it. |
| 22:43.44 | bman | i am seting up asterisk from the deb and have added in realtime mysql support via this howto: http://hostseries.com/asterisk-realtime-installation-guide/ but the sip module isnt appearing to be loaded. anyone point me to a guide on setting asterisk up for just SIP support |
| 22:43.57 | MorkBork | lhasbs, find has options to not traverse filesystems |
| 22:44.04 | MorkBork | lhasbs, or exclude directories |
| 22:44.10 | cmyers | lhasbs: ahah, at last the real problem comes out. Tell find to exclude the paths you don't want using extra flags. |
| 22:44.20 | doublehp | lhasbs: I took the syntax from the gentoo book itself; during the install stage, the book say to double mount /proc ; one book says to "mount -o proc /mnt/gentoo/proc" but an other one says "mount -o bind /proc /mnt/gentoo/proc" ... gave me more ideas :) |
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| 22:44.39 | MorkBork | you do both of those to have those available in the chroot |
| 22:44.44 | MorkBork | then you do chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash |
| 22:44.46 | cmyers | lhasbs: also, if you are doing lots of finds on "/", check out "locate" |
| 22:45.05 | cmyers | it may also be helpful. |
| 22:45.06 | Snadder | Can anyone recommend any hardware raid card sata2 8 ports? |
| 22:45.10 | lhasbs | MorkBork: I know, I was just saying purely for sake of arguemnt that it is searching entire system from the top |
| 22:45.16 | doublehp | lhasbs: find, specicly, has many search options. Just add more options (filters, rejected path ... ). do you use "slocate" ? |
| 22:45.21 | Snadder | ..which is easy to setup in debian |
| 22:46.03 | doublehp | lhasbs: slocate does not always double scan; there are options to reject hard and symlinks to avoid double referencing |
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| 22:46.41 | lhasbs | I wasn't talking about the 'find' utility per-se but a general recursive find, just for sake of example |
| 22:46.52 | doublehp | Snadder: i'd recommend you ask in the forum , in HW section |
| 22:47.18 | Snadder | doublehp, which forum? |
| 22:47.23 | doublehp | lhasbs: slocate and find have options for this. Rsync also ... |
| 22:47.36 | lhasbs | how do you set up locate, because that reminds me of another box I sometimes use which takes almost an hour each night to update the locate list |
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| 22:47.41 | cmyers | lhasbs: the answer to your question is "use the 'find' utility and exclude paths, or use symlinks and bind mounts to chunk out the parts you want". What use case is not answered by that? |
| 22:47.49 | doublehp | Snadder: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewforum-f-23.html?sid=38b93028a9de15b797888f3a89931e1c |
| 22:48.10 | cmyers | lhasbs: apt-get install locate, then run `updatedb` once, then you can locate to your hearts content. it builds an index so it is crazy fast. |
| 22:48.49 | doublehp | lhasbs: /etc/updatedb.conf |
| 22:49.14 | doublehp | lhasbs: how many files in the system ? |
| 22:50.38 | lhasbs | would you know how to setup slocate to prevent unnecessary redundancys? |
| 22:51.43 | CompWizrd | i learned quick to exclude backuppc's datastore from locate.. gigabyte slocate.db file created every night. |
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| 22:52.12 | doublehp | lhasbs: do u read me ? |
| 22:52.50 | BenBE | Is there an easy way to make a source package not build a certain binary package? (I don't need lwresd from deb-src bind9) |
| 22:53.21 | azeem | BenBE: not a standard way at least |
| 22:53.31 | themill | lhasbs: these days you'd use mlocate instead |
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| 22:53.37 | azeem | BenBE: so you will have to modify the source |
| 22:53.49 | BenBE | i.e. rm lwresd*.deb is fastest (before dpkg -i *.deb in /usrr/src ??? |
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| 22:54.13 | BenBE | Sticking with this then ... |
| 22:54.34 | azeem | eh |
| 22:54.40 | azeem | just don't run dpkg -i *.deb the |
| 22:54.41 | azeem | n |
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| 22:56.49 | doublehp | no ... |
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| 22:58.15 | aaronorosen | Does anyone know what bpo stands for in my kernel? |
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| 22:58.44 | doublehp | aaronorosen: wher ? (even "ISA" means 3 things in a kernel ... ) |
| 22:58.53 | themill | aaronorosen: backports.org |
| 22:59.24 | aaronorosen | themill: i had to install 2.6.30-bpo.1-686 to get my wifi working... I hope thats fine.. |
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| 23:00.09 | themill | aaronorosen: yeah, the bpo kernels are pretty solid. There are plenty of people using them for precisely that reason |
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| 23:01.52 | doublehp | themill: do you mean "with more features" or "older and more stable" ? |
| 23:02.14 | themill | doublehp: parse error... |
| 23:02.33 | doublehp | bed time. |
| 23:04.01 | BenBE | Is the PHP PECL extension for GnuPG (not the PEAR one) available as a package? |
| 23:04.19 | abrotman | BenBE: apt-cache search php pecl ? |
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| 23:04.56 | themill | BenBE: probably not, but dh-make-php might be of interest |
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| 23:05.23 | DrNach | I'm running Debian testing. I just ran apt-get upgrade for the first time in a few months. Now when close the lid on my laptop, the screen no longer locks. How can I reenable it? |
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| 23:07.11 | BenBE | Well, then I'll build it from PECL ... |
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| 23:09.10 | praecox | hello, anyone know what to do with the following? http://pastebin.ca/1669010 |
| 23:09.19 | aaronorosen | Hello, my resolution says that its at 1680x1050 but every thing looks so big. Any ideas why? |
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| 23:10.01 | JPT | aaronorosen: if your screen gets his signal by DVI, it might just be interpolated |
| 23:10.11 | JPT | check the resolution of the source |
| 23:11.08 | aaronorosen | JPT: how do i check the resolution of the source? |
| 23:11.33 | JPT | mhh... i don't know... i assume you have something like kde or gnome where you can set the resolution of the screen and stuff |
| 23:11.53 | JPT | i just remember my tft screen interpolating 800x600 to the full native resolution |
| 23:11.55 | Titan8990 | aaronorosen: xrandr |
| 23:12.21 | aaronorosen | It says default connected 1680x1050+0+0 0mm x 0mm |
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| 23:12.59 | cmyers | praecox: kernel panic because it couldnt' find root. are you using init-rd? does your kernel have all modules necessary to read the root dist either build in, or added to initrd? |
| 23:13.54 | praecox | cmyers, seems like it does. it's debian etch default kernel |
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| 23:14.42 | praecox | cmyers, I only made apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, it upgraded some packages and after that restarted my xen machine. it boots with the errors I pasted above. |
| 23:15.10 | aaronorosen | How do i check to see if my video drivers are installed? When i do lspci -k for 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07) It doesn't say it has a module in use. |
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| 23:15.35 | Titan8990 | aaronorosen: thats because its a xserver module, not a kernel module |
| 23:16.01 | Titan8990 | aaronorosen: if you are running xorg, then you have the intel driver and it should have been automagically loaded with the help of HAL |
| 23:16.02 | cirzgamanti` | hi, i just upgraded testing, now the screen goes off after a minute of no keyboard/mouse. any idea what's the culprit? |
| 23:16.19 | cmyers | praecox: the upgrade may have installed a newer kernel, which for some reason is not able to find your root that the old one could. |
| 23:16.21 | cirzgamanti` | running kde |
| 23:16.31 | praecox | cmyers, it seems like it just can't see initrd |
| 23:16.32 | cmyers | praecox: is your old kernel still in the grub bootup list? |
| 23:16.38 | Titan8990 | aaronorosen: you can check Xorg.0.log to see which actually got loaded |
| 23:16.38 | praecox | cmyers, I already tried regenerating it |
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| 23:16.49 | copantl | hi |
| 23:16.56 | praecox | cmyers, only non-xen kernels. |
| 23:17.03 | copantl | any body know how to install xen in lenny? |
| 23:17.19 | praecox | copantl, apt-get install xen? |
| 23:17.28 | cmyers | praecox: will only xen kernels work? this is a xen guest machine? |
| 23:17.36 | petemc | you'll want the xen-linux-system package |
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| 23:18.13 | copantl | of course, but my grub dont recognize the boot kernel |
| 23:18.14 | praecox | cmyers, yes and yes. I'm using pygrub due to the difference between kernels (Dom-0 is lenny, Dom-U is etch) |
| 23:18.28 | petemc | copantl: what did you install? |
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| 23:18.44 | roe | I am looking for a way to keep two folders on two different machines in sync. Rsync doesn't seem to be intelligent enough. |
| 23:18.54 | cmyers | praecox: hmm, I think this might be beyond my experience =( sounds like a yucky mess to clean up |
| 23:18.55 | praecox | cmyers, I found this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=502123 |
| 23:18.55 | copantl | petemc: apt-get install xen-hypervisor-3.2-1-i386 xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-686 xen-utils-3.2-1 xenstore-utils xenwatch xen-shell xen-tools |
| 23:19.20 | aaronorosen | Titan8990 is there anyway to check to see if its working? Just because the screen looks a little off. |
| 23:19.27 | praecox | cmyers, it looks like it's the same problem except the fact that ramdisk loaded up. |
| 23:19.46 | cmyers | praecox: yeh, that looks like it's it. |
| 23:20.13 | Titan8990 | aaronorosen: if you saw that it loaded the correct driver and your currently in xserver, then its working |
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| 23:20.35 | petemc | copantl: pastebin the entries at the bottom of /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 23:20.37 | copantl | petemc: grub said that i have to create a directory on /boot/ named grub |
| 23:20.52 | aaronorosen | Titan8990: I'm running X but how do i know if it loaded the correct driver? |
| 23:20.58 | Titan8990 | copantl: that should occur when you install grub via apt |
| 23:21.07 | petemc | copantl: you didnt install grub when you installed debian? |
| 23:21.09 | Titan8990 | aaronorosen: look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 23:21.11 | copantl | petemc: i got lenny 5.0.3 it is grub2? o 1 |
| 23:21.17 | petemc | it is? |
| 23:21.21 | Titan8990 | no, its not |
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| 23:21.43 | Titan8990 | judd: versions grub2 |
| 23:21.44 | judd | Titan8990: grub2 -- lenny: 1.96+20080724-16 lenny-backports: 1.97~beta3-1~bpo50+1 squeeze: 1.97~beta3-1 sid: 1.97-1 experimental: 1.97+experimental.20091026-1 |
| 23:21.48 | copantl | petemc: yes i did it |
| 23:21.59 | Titan8990 | copantl: did you get the installer to use grub2? |
| 23:22.04 | copantl | nop |
| 23:22.07 | aaronorosen | Titan8990: there are no (EE)'s in that file so i think i'm fine. |
| 23:22.30 | Titan8990 | aaronorosen: EE's are typically fatal and prevent xserver from starting |
| 23:22.33 | copantl | i just choose grub for my boot loade |
| 23:22.43 | Titan8990 | aaronorosen: if its working but possibly with issues your looking for warnings WW |
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| 23:23.04 | Titan8990 | copantl: if you just chose that from the installer and it IS lenny then you should grub-legacy |
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| 23:23.10 | copantl | if i use etch 4.0.R5 it works fine |
| 23:23.55 | copantl | Titan8990: yes, but where is the grub directory where xen put the boot list? |
| 23:24.31 | aaronorosen | Titan8990: i got these (WW) VESA(0): Failed to set up write-combining range (0xd0000000,0x1ff0000), (WW) VESA(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum, (WW) VESA(0): Unable to estimate virtual size, (WW) VESA: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:0) found |
| 23:24.47 | Titan8990 | copantl: oh.. i didn't know xen was involved.. but grub-legacy would be /boot/grub/ |
| 23:24.50 | aaronorosen | Titan8990 I think its trying to use the VESA driver but it should be using the intel one since i have an intel card. |
| 23:25.05 | Titan8990 | aaronorosen: pastebin the full log |
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| 23:26.43 | aaronorosen | Titan8990: http://pastebin.com/m4c3e588c |
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| 23:28.04 | Titan8990 | aaronorosen: now /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 23:28.36 | aaronorosen | Titan8990: http://pastebin.com/m2a61b230 |
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| 23:29.53 | reisi | i can't seem to get LDAP with {ssha} passwords working, i can change the password but authentication fails; should i remove ssha and update a CRYPT password auth works, any ideas? |
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| 23:35.51 | copantl | any body know what this means: Disk /dev/dm-0 doesn't contain a valid partition table |
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| 23:36.05 | copantl | i got a poweredge 1950 with raid |
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| 23:36.34 | copantl | every time that i reboot the server always i got to press control-d |
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| 23:36.41 | copantl | any idea? |
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| 23:37.09 | copantl | i install my debian lenny with lvm over a raid |
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| 23:44.24 | petemc | copantl: what did you do before you rebooted? |
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| 23:45.16 | MAd_haTTer | google "partition table" and "/dev/dm-0" |
| 23:45.17 | Titan8990 | aaronorosen: it doesn't look like that chipset is supported by the intel driver |
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| 23:45.41 | MAd_haTTer | perhaps create a partition table on /dev/dm-0 |
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| 23:48.23 | aaronorosen | Titan8990: it worked fine in ubuntu |
| 23:48.50 | iluminator101 | how do i fix segfault when opening preferences window error? |
| 23:49.51 | UnNamed | hi, any idea what changed about /dev/ram* with the 2.6.31 deb? i need a small (memory based) partition (and no, tmpfs is not what i want, i need something that stays in ram and gets erased on reboot) |
| 23:50.59 | massmc | !ping |
| 23:51.00 | dpkg | Yes, massmc, you are online. |
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| 23:54.28 | Titan8990 | aaronorosen: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf then restart x |
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| 23:55.42 | marcus_dicotomia | hi |
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