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| 00:04.13 | simonrvn | jpinx-eeepc: dpkg --get-selections |
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| 00:09.59 | jpinx-eeepc | simonrvn: yea - that too;) |
| 00:10.43 | simonrvn | heh |
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| 00:14.15 | Psi-Jack | Okay. |
| 00:14.16 | ryanCH | when is debian 600 supposed to be released? |
| 00:14.42 | valdyn | !wwsbr |
| 00:14.48 | valdyn | !wir |
| 00:14.48 | dpkg | wir is, like, When It's Ready. See also <rsn> and <siyh>. |
| 00:14.51 | Psi-Jack | Where does apt store the /etc/* modified revised files before it applies or discards, so I can have a better manual merge method to apply the differences myself? |
| 00:15.05 | Meths | The current debian release is 5. Do you think 600 is sensible? |
| 00:15.15 | valdyn | Psi-Jack: same place, as configfile.dpkg-dist |
| 00:15.30 | Psi-Jack | valdyn: Okay. And where is that? :p |
| 00:15.32 | ryanCH | 6 ;p |
| 00:15.39 | valdyn | Psi-Jack: same place as the configfile |
| 00:15.56 | Psi-Jack | Ahhhh.. Same path, just appended .dpkg-dist |
| 00:16.07 | Psi-Jack | But yet. |
| 00:16.09 | Psi-Jack | It's not there. |
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| 00:16.24 | valdyn | Psi-Jack: unmodified config files are just replaced |
| 00:16.44 | Psi-Jack | I'm in debconf now, about the changes. |
| 00:16.59 | Psi-Jack | I haven't applied nor ignored the changes, as I wanted to do it, manually. |
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| 00:17.01 | valdyn | Psi-Jack: first you have to Y or N before the file is placed there |
| 00:17.25 | Psi-Jack | Okay, so. if I answer not to replace it, it will drop the .dpkg-dist in place? |
| 00:17.33 | valdyn | Psi-Jack: yea |
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| 00:17.45 | valdyn | Psi-Jack: and if you do the older one would be there as .dpkg-old |
| 00:18.22 | Psi-Jack | Well, wonderful.. It didn't do dpkg-dist, but it DID to .ucf-dist |
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| 00:19.12 | quentusrex | Anyone know how to state which files are conffiles??? |
| 00:19.24 | valdyn | Psi-Jack: see man ucf, that tool is a little more sophisticated |
| 00:19.38 | quentusrex | I'm trying to build a package, and I need to handle the conffiles... |
| 00:19.51 | Psi-Jack | No need. I'm good with manually adjusting. |
| 00:20.28 | Psi-Jack | It just made it more painful trying when debconf ncurses was up. ;) |
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| 00:21.48 | valdyn | Psi-Jack: you still might want to look at the manpage |
| 00:22.28 | valdyn | Psi-Jack: having to edit ucf maintained files except to add *new* features is a bug |
| 00:22.56 | Psi-Jack | heh. Okay. Not my problem. ;) |
| 00:23.07 | valdyn | Psi-Jack: where as the config files directly shipped in packages obviously will need modification |
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| 00:25.12 | massmc | cheers for the screen help.. it works great. I am already a wiz in screen after 5 minutes |
| 00:25.39 | Psi-Jack | I still wish someone would make a desqview-like screen implementation. |
| 00:25.50 | Psi-Jack | I never liked the keybindings of screen. |
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| 00:27.41 | Josh__ | How can I figure out what dev node is being assinged to my USB device? |
| 00:28.58 | massmc | Psi-Jack , up until yesterday I was running fluxbox with vnc cause didnt know about screen.. I absolutely adore screen now |
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| 00:41.20 | puff | Dangit. |
| 00:41.51 | puff | Psi-Jack: You can easily customize the screen keybindings. |
| 00:42.14 | puff | Josh__: Check dmesg. |
| 00:42.21 | thehurley | hello, i've just done "sudo netstat -aep" and saw some strange connections from to mailzilla.com from my machine |
| 00:42.47 | thehurley | the pid/program name reports x/python |
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| 00:42.50 | Psi-Jack | puff: So I can make it bring up a nice desqview like task manager window to select which screen I want to activate too? ;) |
| 00:43.05 | puff | Psi-Jack: ctrl-a " |
| 00:43.16 | Psi-Jack | puff: You've never used DESQview, have you? |
| 00:43.18 | thehurley | any times for me to try trace this pyton script thats connecting to mailzilla.com? |
| 00:43.29 | puff | Psi-Jack: Nope :-) |
| 00:43.33 | thehurley | * times shoudl read * tips |
| 00:43.40 | puff | Psi-Jack: Have you used ctrl-a " |
| 00:44.11 | puff | thehurley: hm, lsof? |
| 00:44.37 | umarzuki | hi, what's the package name that adds weather view for Clock on lenny? |
| 00:44.39 | puff | thehurley: Use netstat to figure out the process id, use lsof to figure out the files that process is using. |
| 00:44.49 | umarzuki | i used to see this on ubuntu and fedora |
| 00:45.17 | thehurley | puff thanks |
| 00:45.24 | Psi-Jack | puff: Yes. |
| 00:45.33 | Psi-Jack | puff: It's not just about the keybindings, but the UI, or lack of. |
| 00:45.45 | puff | Psi-Jack: You said it was about the keybindings. |
| 00:45.54 | puff | <Psi-Jack> I never liked the keybindings of screen. |
| 00:46.00 | puff | Psi-Jack: That's the bit I was responding to. |
| 00:46.06 | Psi-Jack | puff: Yeah. but it's not /just/ about the keybindings. ;) |
| 00:49.08 | thehurley | right, when i lsof -p PID, there is quite a few items being displayed, the one that sticks out is denyhosts (which is written in python i think) |
| 00:49.37 | puff | Argh, I've gotta figure out what to clear out to free up / space. |
| 00:49.48 | mrparanoid | Just setup some iptables etc, just trying to work out if rsyslog logs the hits somewhere? |
| 00:49.52 | puff | Everybody said 5GB was more than enough for /, but now it's full, dangit. |
| 00:50.18 | puff | mrparanoid: lsof on the rsyslog process? |
| 00:50.21 | valdyn | puff: apt-get clean |
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| 00:50.47 | puff | valdyn: Yeah, already did. Only freed up a smidgeon. |
| 00:50.58 | abrotman | look in /var/log/ |
| 00:51.05 | mrbnet | I am running debian Lenny with subversion. How can I upgrade subversion to 1.6? |
| 00:51.17 | rudi_s | Hi. Is there an easy way to get security updates to a machine not connected to the internet? |
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| 00:51.25 | abrotman | judd: versions svn |
| 00:51.25 | judd | abrotman: svn -- |
| 00:51.27 | valdyn | puff: this / is 7G, and im saving space, 5G is no comfortable for a desktop |
| 00:51.28 | abrotman | judd: versions subversion |
| 00:51.28 | judd | abrotman: subversion -- etch: 1.4.2dfsg1-2 etch-security: 1.4.2dfsg1-3 etch-backports: 1.5.1dfsg1-1~bpo40+1 lenny: 1.5.1dfsg1-2 lenny-security: 1.5.1dfsg1-4 squeeze: 1.6.3dfsg-1 lenny-backports: 1.6.4dfsg-1~bpo50+1 sid: 1.6.6dfsg-1 |
| 00:51.30 | abrotman | duh |
| 00:51.35 | abrotman | !tell rudi_s about bpo |
| 00:51.55 | rudi_s | abrotman: ? |
| 00:52.25 | abrotman | rudi_s: see what the bot told you .. svn1.6.x is in backports.org |
| 00:52.36 | valdyn | puff: on top of that a dist-upgrade probably needs another 2G temporarily |
| 00:52.49 | rudi_s | abrotman: I didn't ask this, mrbnet did. |
| 00:52.50 | mrparanoid | puff, thanks dude didnt even think of using lsof that way.. ill have another look into this now |
| 00:53.12 | rudi_s | My question was: Is there an easy way to get security updates to a machine not connected to the internet? |
| 00:53.16 | abrotman | rudi_s: sorry |
| 00:53.17 | valdyn | puff: lenny -> squeeze even, thats not just a dist-upgrade |
| 00:53.19 | abrotman | rudi_s: apt-zip |
| 00:53.21 | rudi_s | np |
| 00:53.29 | abrotman | !tell mrbnet about bpo |
| 00:53.31 | puff | /var/log ]log is only 24mb. |
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| 00:53.46 | abrotman | puff: du -sk /* |
| 00:53.48 | mrbnet | abrotman: I found the package I have never installed any of the backports before |
| 00:53.59 | abrotman | mrbnet: there are instructions at backports.org |
| 00:54.12 | mrbnet | abrotman: Thx, I will check out |
| 00:54.15 | rudi_s | abrotman: How can I get the list of security updates? AFAIK I have to give apt-zip a list of packages. |
| 00:54.34 | puff | abrotman: Yeah... I've been using du, even installed filelight, it's not clear that there's any major culrprit, just "stuff" |
| 00:54.35 | thehurley | puff: figured it out, the sync server for denyhosts is hosted on the same server as mailzilla.com. i can stop worrying now. thanks for the lsof tip! |
| 00:54.49 | puff | thehurley: No problem. lsof is my hammer, today. |
| 00:54.57 | abrotman | rudi_s: track the DSAs ? |
| 00:55.15 | valdyn | rudi_s: why do you care on a machine that is not networked? |
| 00:55.34 | thehurley | if i didn't figure out what it was, i was going to rebuild the server :) |
| 00:55.35 | rudi_s | abrotman: Hm, I thought there might be a more automated way. |
| 00:55.40 | abrotman | could still be a local exploit he doesn't exposed |
| 00:55.47 | abrotman | rudi_s: there is the update CDs for each point release |
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| 00:55.53 | rudi_s | valdyn: Local users. |
| 00:55.53 | puff | Hm, I wonder how hard it will be to rearrange the partition sizes. |
| 00:56.26 | thehurley | puff: will gparted help you there? |
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| 00:57.12 | ZenWalker | can I work internet explorer on debian? |
| 00:57.20 | rudi_s | abrotman: Thanks. |
| 00:57.34 | abrotman | ZenWalker: google "IE Wine" |
| 00:58.04 | puff | thehurley: Well, as I understand it, the big problem is shufflign the data around. |
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| 00:59.07 | puff | I have / on /dev/sda5, /home on /dev/sda6 and a bulk data partition on /dev/sda7. |
| 00:59.43 | puff | The idea being that I can reinstall / without having to muck with user data, and/or back up /home without having to sort out disposable bulk data (e.g. mp3s I can re-rip from media, etc). |
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| 01:00.38 | puff | Trouble is, you can shrink partitions by trimming off the empty space on the end, but you can't literally "move" data, you have to copy it around. |
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| 01:03.05 | puff | Maybe I can leapfrog stuff around... basically grow / and shrink /home. |
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| 01:03.49 | puff | Except I can't really "shrink" /home, so I'll have to a) clean house on /home and move any disposable data to /bulk, b) backup /home to /bulk, c) free /home, d) expand /, f) fdisk the remaining space from /home as a smaller /home, g) restore the stuff copied to /bulk. |
| 01:04.23 | thehurley | puff: i've never used gparted on a linux machine before, only on windows. in windows it was easy to move/copy the data using gparted. and it looks like move/copy is available for ext2/3/4 and reiser http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php |
| 01:04.40 | puff | The big problem is that this is a quite servicable thinkpad t43p, about 4 years old, and I can't afford to buy a better machine, but it will complain if I replace the HD wtih something larger. |
| 01:04.41 | thehurley | puff: but i guess your problem is you have a small amount of space to work with |
| 01:04.47 | puff | Yeah. |
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| 01:05.18 | puff | It's only a 60GB hard drive, 7200 RPM, very reliable, etc, but the firmware freaks out if replace it with any but a small subset. |
| 01:06.04 | puff | Er, any but a small subset of hard drives. |
| 01:06.16 | thehurley | i'm a novice linux user, but can you a partition to a dvd using dd if=/dev/xyz of=/mnt/dvd |
| 01:06.26 | thehurley | *can you burn* |
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| 01:06.58 | thehurley | then bring gparted into the equation |
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| 01:07.49 | puff | Sure, back it up to a drive or burn it to a dvd, same difference. |
| 01:08.09 | puff | The biggest problem is essentially that at the hardware level, there's no such thing as "move", it's copy and overwrite. |
| 01:08.33 | puff | I might just dig up a portable drive, back up the entire thing, rebuild it. |
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| 01:08.44 | puff | E.g. back up the whole disk. |
| 01:08.55 | puff | Okay, time for a beer and a burger, catchalater. |
| 01:09.56 | no_brain | puff: you are alkoholics |
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| 01:11.23 | paranoidfreak | is there a way to setup debian from performing automatic update certain day and time of the week? |
| 01:12.41 | thehurley | paranoidfreak: auto-apt? |
| 01:13.09 | thehurley | it's probably best not to auto update, but to configure it to sent you an email with the list of available updates |
| 01:13.30 | thehurley | some updates overwirte config files, that you may have manually edited |
| 01:13.52 | puff | no_brain: I am hongry. |
| 01:13.54 | paranoidfreak | thehurley: oh ok, thanks for the info |
| 01:14.12 | TrueDD | Gnight to all |
| 01:14.15 | puff | I need ot dig into that topic, myself, after I eat. |
| 01:14.53 | puff | Specifically, my ubuntu desktop machine prompts me to install security updates, etc, so I keep it fairly up to date, but I seem to be prone to letting my debian colo get out of whack. |
| 01:15.14 | puff | But first, burger time! |
| 01:15.24 | thehurley | enjoy |
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| 01:17.10 | acxty | Hi guys, is there something similar to wireshark but that runs on terminal? |
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| 01:18.55 | xxtjaxx | Hi Im trying to get my website done and ready I got a domain name for it i gfot it exposed to the web but i cant see that the http port would be open so otheres can view the website also my domain is constantly broken any ideas? |
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| 01:23.58 | bintut | what could be the implication if i use a box with a single ethernet port as my home gateway where i assign the eth0 as the wan side (dhcp acquired ip address) and assign eth0:1 as my lan side (static) ? |
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| 01:25.20 | bintut | that single ethernet port of my box is physically connected to a switch where the cable modem for wan and access point for lan? |
| 01:26.16 | dondelelcaro | bintut: that's not a good idea; any other machine which uses dhcp can conceivably get the ip address from the wan side. |
| 01:26.30 | dondelelcaro | bintut: ethernet cards are cheap; use one. |
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| 01:29.18 | bintut | dondelelcaro: how can a laptop get a public ip from the wan side if the user connects wirelessly via the access point? |
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| 01:30.27 | bintut | dondelelcaro: i got an intel d945gclf2 based box with a single pci slot which is already intended for another purpose |
| 01:31.40 | dondelelcaro | bintut: if the only thing that you've got is wireless connections, then you've got two interfaces. |
| 01:31.59 | bintut | dondelelcaro: the other way is to buy a usbnet device like the linksys usb200m |
| 01:32.03 | Psi-Jack | There we go! |
| 01:32.15 | dondelelcaro | bintut: or to use a device which has more than one ethernet connection... |
| 01:32.15 | Psi-Jack | Nice new shiney upgraded Dovecot with the newer sieve implementation. |
| 01:33.15 | bintut | dondelelcaro: but if you guys can tell me there's no implication of having a single ethernet port for a home default gateway/router by having ip alias for the lan side, that will be great because i don't need to buy a usbnet |
| 01:33.47 | bintut | dondelelcaro: what do you mean by device here? |
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| 01:35.13 | dondelelcaro | bintut: the problem is again what I've stated; anything which is plugged into that switch or bridged into it can conceivably get an address. |
| 01:35.40 | dondelelcaro | bintut: you also are going to have some issues with broadcast traffic, though presumably that s |
| 01:35.45 | bintut | dondelelcaro: and there could be a possibility of split brain? |
| 01:36.02 | dondelelcaro | bintut: I've no idea what you mean by split brain. |
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| 01:36.55 | bintut | dondelelcaro: users from the downstream may go direct to wan and go via the gateway box |
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| 01:37.05 | massmc | are you able to enable images in links browser? |
| 01:37.09 | bintut | dondelelcaro: then i have no choice, i have to buy http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/USB200M |
| 01:37.22 | bintut | massmc: links2 that is |
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| 01:38.01 | bintut | dondelelcaro: i am running my lenny box at home for 24/7 |
| 01:38.03 | massmc | kk thanks |
| 01:38.20 | massmc | how do i scroll down with bintut |
| 01:38.37 | bintut | dondelelcaro: the pci slot is already intended for my tdm card |
| 01:38.46 | bintut | massmc: arrow down |
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| 01:44.01 | Jorophose | is there any way to do a netinstall using unetbootin? |
| 01:44.07 | Jorophose | it failed for me today and botched my MBR =( |
| 01:44.20 | Jorophose | or could I take CD1 for Lenny and have it work that way? |
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| 01:58.43 | Jorophose | should I just copy over a previous install onto a new HDD? |
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| 02:00.04 | LtL | Jorophose: cd1 will work, just see that it uses the entire disk |
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| 02:02.18 | Jorophose | LtL: what do you mean? my USB drive? I can't use my entire HDD, windows is also installed on it |
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| 02:03.09 | LtL | Jorophose: you can keep windows, where do you want to install it? |
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| 02:05.22 | LtL | Jorophose: I'm just thinking the failed install probably whacked the mbr, windows won't boot and you may have unwanted partitions. |
| 02:06.03 | Jorophose | yeah, I had to reinstall windows actually, because nothing would boot except for the windows install disc. it was ridiculous, I've never seen debian do that. |
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| 02:06.35 | Jorophose | I have about 96GB unallocated next to it. when I tried installing debian via CD (but it was i386 and an old version of lenny) it seemed to have gotten stuck at some point |
| 02:07.06 | LtL | Jorophose: well, windows rebuilt the mbr, lenny install from cd1 will see windows and setup dual boot for you. |
| 02:07.30 | Jorophose | will it? how do I do that? I haven't been using the latest lenny |
| 02:07.37 | Jorophose | and is there a lenny with KDE4? or only KDE3? |
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| 02:08.41 | Jorophose | the thing is, my internet connection is really slow |
| 02:08.49 | Jorophose | so I think it makes more sense to try and copy over the old install |
| 02:08.56 | LtL | Jorophose: the disk needs preparation probably, lenny installs gnome, you can install kde afterwards. which version kde i do not know. |
| 02:09.00 | Jorophose | it's a question of fixing the MBR for it to boot, though |
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| 02:09.51 | LtL | Jorophose: did the windows install use the whole disk? you need to shrink that partition and leave unallocated space. |
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| 02:10.59 | Jorophose | no, I installed it myself and left about 100GB |
| 02:11.27 | Jorophose | I'm wondering if there's a system rescue CD that will let me copy over an old installation onto that space & install grub for me |
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| 02:13.04 | LtL | Jorophose: will windows boot now? if so, run cd1, instruct it to use the spare 100gb and keep the ntfs partition and install grub |
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| 02:13.47 | LtL | Jorophose: it will prompt you |
| 02:14.20 | Jorophose | hmm, it's just that, CD1 is going to take forever to download. I was just hoping to find an easier way, you know? |
| 02:15.34 | LtL | Jorophose: cd1 will be the easiest in the longrun, but others may have suggestions. |
| 02:15.36 | Jorophose | but if it's the easiest way to do it, I probably will |
| 02:15.47 | Jorophose | if not, I'll try Ubuntu again. I'm not inflexible on distros |
| 02:17.19 | LtL | Jorophose: cd1 is probably a few mb's smaller than moobuntu |
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| 02:19.01 | Jorophose | hahaha jokes about ubuntu being bloat? I like that one. |
| 02:19.07 | Jorophose | but I have to recover my /home anyway |
| 02:19.47 | Jorophose | according to: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202 it should be easy enough to install grub2 |
| 02:19.50 | streuner_ | s/recover/rm pr0n/ done |
| 02:19.55 | LtL | Jorophose: its not bloat, ubuntu is on 1 cd, debian has about i dunno 20? |
| 02:20.02 | Jorophose | then why moobuntu? |
| 02:20.10 | Jorophose | (so I'm assuming I can copy over the files, and then install grub2) |
| 02:20.22 | streuner_ | !netinstall |
| 02:20.22 | dpkg | somebody said netinst was a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and more packages later. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ See also <check iso image>, <dialup install>, <usb install>, <pppoe install>, <netboot>, <bf>, <installer>. |
| 02:20.24 | Jorophose | (but it might not recognise the windows partition, so idk) |
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| 02:20.49 | LtL | Jorophose: moobuntu sounds better, it has a certain 'flair' |
| 02:21.46 | LtL | Jorophose: i can assure you cd1 will see the ntfs partition unless your disk is really whacked. |
| 02:22.01 | Jorophose | mm |
| 02:22.17 | LtL | Jorophose: a live cd might provide a solution |
| 02:22.17 | Jorophose | thanks then. I guess I'm just going to have to download & install with cd1, and then copy over my old /home later |
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| 02:23.20 | LtL | Jorophose: good luck |
| 02:23.32 | streuner_ | Whats the problem, you have a grub2 problem? |
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| 02:23.57 | streuner_ | well, why not just get grml and fix the problem then? |
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| 02:27.02 | Jorophose | me? I've got a problem with you :P |
| 02:27.02 | Jorophose | kitting |
| 02:27.17 | Jorophose | I couldn't get debian to install right on my new hardware, am going to try the CD1 |
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| 02:32.38 | dff | what are the differences between aptitude and apt-get |
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| 02:34.29 | rudi_s | !why aptitude |
| 02:34.30 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often be able to come up with a solution where apt-get just gives up. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). It can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line or at the Y/n/q/? prompt using its interactive resolver, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
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| 02:39.03 | pflanze | I'm looking for a tool that would try to find open wifi networks while I'm walking around. |
| 02:39.27 | dff | what do you mean open |
| 02:39.33 | pflanze | I know airodump and it's sister tools, but that involves much manual work. |
| 02:39.34 | zinx | kismet will do that, among other tools |
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| 02:40.02 | pflanze | unencrypted (I don't want to break WEP keys usually) |
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| 02:41.01 | pflanze | The biggest problem when walking around the city is that most networks I'm seeing do not seem to receive my connection attempts (no association) |
| 02:41.41 | pflanze | So what I'm looking for is a tool that makes finding connectable networks much easier, so that I can walk around without needing hours of manual work. |
| 02:41.53 | magyar | what does the plus mean in >> drwx------+ |
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| 02:42.25 | pflanze | zinx: is kismet any better for what I want than airodump? I've tried running it but it wants some options that are not explained in the manpage. |
| 02:43.24 | zinx | pflanze: probably a bit better |
| 02:43.26 | pflanze | zinx: I'm also really looking for a tool that actually tries to associate with found networks. Not just listen to them. |
| 02:43.44 | zinx | pflanze: wicd? network-manager? :/ |
| 02:45.14 | freaky[t] | hi all. I've set up an openvpn server (linux). on my vpn linux client everything is working, but on my windows client the server and the client can't ping each other. configs: http://www.pastebin.ca/1671425 logs: logs: http://pastebin.ca/1671451 I've only added route-method exe to the client.ovpn. can anyone please help me? |
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| 02:45.20 | pflanze | I've only had hassles with network-manager; wicd didn't work well last I tried (and afair it required manual clicking on the networks, too) |
| 02:45.30 | I-Hopz | whats a good way to see who's logged into your server, aside from the users command |
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| 02:45.46 | I-Hopz | like if i wanted to see how they were logged in..via ssh..or local machine..telnet. |
| 02:46.12 | peterrooney | magyar: version of ls? |
| 02:46.27 | pflanze | I-Hopz: who, w |
| 02:46.29 | magyar | peterrooney: lenny |
| 02:46.42 | pflanze | I-Hopz: last |
| 02:47.03 | I-Hopz | pflanze, i..dont' follow, |
| 02:47.06 | I-Hopz | is that all one command? |
| 02:47.14 | pflanze | Those are three commands. |
| 02:47.30 | pflanze | Try them in sequence. |
| 02:47.39 | I-Hopz | ah ok |
| 02:47.52 | adb | pflanze, google about ceni |
| 02:48.13 | peterrooney | magyar: that's a new one on me, what kind of file does `file' think it is? |
| 02:48.35 | magyar | peterrooney: directory |
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| 02:49.31 | magyar | peterrooney: samba users windows profiles directory |
| 02:50.56 | peterrooney | magyar: i'm stumped, can't find any similar file on my machine, or docs in `ls' |
| 02:51.25 | peterrooney | s/ docs in / manpage for / |
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| 02:52.45 | I-Hopz | Hey pflanze, Thanks! |
| 02:53.00 | I-Hopz | i couldn't figure out where i had an ssh session from.. |
| 02:53.09 | I-Hopz | has too many computers..:P |
| 02:54.24 | peterrooney | I-Hopz: now you know to put hostname in your prompt, and maybe have your hosts colour-coded. |
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| 02:59.06 | magyar | peterrooney: it means ACL set mount |
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| 03:04.13 | I-Hopz | peterrooney, color coded? |
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| 03:21.39 | panopticon | how do i configure what sound device gtk-recordmydesktop is to record from? |
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| 03:27.22 | pflanze | panopticon: have you tried selecting the (default or so) input device with alsamixer? |
| 03:28.13 | pflanze | Hit tab to get to [Capture], then go right to "Input Source [Mic]" and up down to select it, also go to "Capture" and hit space if it's not activated yet. |
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| 03:28.38 | pflanze | (a "----" means its inactive) |
| 03:29.23 | pflanze | is still in awe for that weird, James Bond skills needing interface; even if it's admittedly relatively slick once you know how it works |
| 03:29.24 | panopticon | pflanze, thanks. that did the trick |
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| 03:31.29 | paranoidfreak | how can u safely remove a hardware other than flash drives but something like usb printer |
| 03:31.50 | Psi-Jack | Okay, so I have a sudoers entry like this: www-data bragi = NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/virtualmin -- But when I su to www-data and try to sudo -i -u root /usr/sbin/virtualmin, it asks for www-data's password. |
| 03:31.59 | Psi-Jack | paranoidfreak: Unplug it. |
| 03:32.04 | pflanze | paranoidfreak: you're too paranoid, just unplug |
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| 03:33.03 | pflanze | paranoidfreak: actually the hard drive is the only one where care is a good idea (unmount it before unplugging), since buffered changes would be lost (and it could remain unmounted) |
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| 03:33.31 | pflanze | s/hard/whatever drive/ |
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| 03:33.57 | paranoidfreak | Psi-Jack: unplugging is the shortcut way but like in windows u have to safely remove it first |
| 03:34.15 | Psi-Jack | paranoidfreak: Wrong. You don't have to "safely remove" a printer, even in Windows. |
| 03:34.30 | Psi-Jack | paranoidfreak: The only unsafe thing to unplug USB-wise, is storage media. |
| 03:34.36 | paranoidfreak | pflanze: so, i don't need to worry about other hardware but the usb drive |
| 03:34.37 | tensorpudding | i prefer to remove my printers by grabbing them and throwing them through the window |
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| 03:35.53 | paranoidfreak | pflanze: unmounting the drive is a good idea but i don't need to worry about other hardware? if so, thanks for the info |
| 03:36.14 | Psi-Jack | Anyway, anyone know about the sudo issue? |
| 03:36.21 | paranoidfreak | Psi-Jack: thanks for the info |
| 03:36.50 | pflanze | paranoidfreak: anything where writes could be pending shouldn't just be removed (but the bad effects are usually no drama either) |
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| 03:37.26 | pflanze | paranoidfreak: need any other way to say it? ;) |
| 03:37.45 | paranoidfreak | pflanze: no, that's good |
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| 03:38.28 | paranoidfreak | pflanze: i really do get paranoid with alot of stuff and hate it sometimes, lol |
| 03:39.49 | pflanze | Psi-Jack: that's how sudo works: it does not ask for the root password (since that would breach the security it is designed to provide!) |
| 03:40.08 | Psi-Jack | pflanze: The point is, it's set to NOPASSWD: to run that one command. |
| 03:40.16 | pflanze | aha |
| 03:40.18 | Psi-Jack | But it's asking for the www-data password. |
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| 03:40.52 | pflanze | I've actually never configured sudo. |
| 03:41.13 | pflanze | (Using deamons listening on unix sockets instead) |
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| 03:44.34 | Psi-Jack | Hmm |
| 03:44.54 | Psi-Jack | According to sudo -l, it shows www-data may run (root) NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/virtualmin. |
| 03:45.01 | Psi-Jack | So it /should/ be working. |
| 03:45.52 | Psi-Jack | Ahhh, the -i option wasn't working. ;) |
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| 03:48.53 | freaky[t] | hi all. im currently running testing, and the openvpn server comming with testing is too new for my windows client ... is there a possibility to use an older openvpn package - if yes, how? |
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| 03:56.01 | nsadmin | freaky[t] can you get the source? (while some debian packages can be downgraded, this is a coincidence; the reality is debian is not downgradable and most likely never will be) |
| 03:56.37 | freaky[t] | ok im compiling allready ;D |
| 03:56.42 | freaky[t] | thanks |
| 03:56.44 | ZenWalker | any program for tvp2p on linux? |
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| 03:57.07 | nsadmin | ZenWalker: start with a google search |
| 03:57.11 | markybob | ZenWalker, tvp2p? |
| 03:57.30 | nsadmin | p2p for crossdressers? |
| 03:58.24 | simonrvn | heh heh |
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| 03:59.42 | markybob | ZenWalker, how is that relevant to #debian? |
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| 04:00.55 | nsadmin | markybob he should search, as he should for any package or generic type of pkg... which he probably did |
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| 04:01.28 | nsadmin | does a double take... |
| 04:03.18 | simonrvn | wonders why nsadmin is doing a double take |
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| 04:03.44 | nsadmin | simonrvn: two corrs from one IP! |
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| 04:04.28 | simonrvn | ooh, i see |
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| 04:04.38 | simonrvn | 2 clients open... |
| 04:05.22 | nsadmin | and 2 clients of which 0 speaking... well... what's up wit dat? |
| 04:06.16 | simonrvn | lurker |
| 04:06.36 | nsadmin | in stereo! |
| 04:06.58 | simonrvn | » |
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| 04:07.40 | simonrvn | stereo, stereo, stereo, stereo.. |
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| 04:09.03 | jiunshyong | could anyone advise on this issue of why Google is the blackhole for free open source software? thanks |
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| 04:09.49 | hoo-hah | advise who |
| 04:09.55 | simonrvn | do we look like #antigoogle in here? this is a *Debian* *support* channel |
| 04:10.47 | nsadmin | jiunshyong: looks to me like you're seeking an argument for a debate |
| 04:10.51 | jiunshyong | sorry, just thinking of asking debian expert advise on this |
| 04:10.56 | hoo-hah | jiunshyong: use google for your answer |
| 04:11.06 | jiunshyong | as i m no wiser on this topic. just read somewhere |
| 04:11.22 | simonrvn | jiunshyong: go to #debian-offtopic |
| 04:11.22 | nsadmin | that would be ironic... it would probably be very effective too |
| 04:11.31 | jiunshyong | ok thanks |
| 04:11.57 | nsadmin | (that is, searching google would be ironic and effective...) |
| 04:12.51 | nsadmin | you can cite google and the search terms you use in your bibliography |
| 04:13.19 | hoo-hah | and repeat a semester :) |
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| 04:20.16 | jiunshyong | hi, how come iceweasel is still unavailable in version 3.5 for debian squeeze? thanks |
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| 04:20.43 | nsadmin | !why is iceweasel not in testing |
| 04:20.43 | dpkg | iceweasel is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=iceweasel |
| 04:20.46 | wzssyqa | hello |
| 04:20.54 | wzssyqa | i am using sid |
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| 04:21.03 | jiunshyong | thanks |
| 04:21.23 | jiunshyong | i am using iceweasel 3.014 for squeeze |
| 04:21.31 | wzssyqa | and if i install gnome-desktop-environment ,then it install empathy |
| 04:21.57 | foof | Hey, just did an apt-get upgrade in sid, which pulled in bluetooth, and all my bluetooth devices died and can't reconnect. |
| 04:22.32 | wzssyqa | then i uninstall empathy ,then lots of gnome software display in autoremovealbe |
| 04:22.40 | foof | Is this a known problem, and is there a quick fix? |
| 04:22.49 | wzssyqa | if it abug? |
| 04:23.09 | Xenguy | foof: ahhh, the joys of sid :-) |
| 04:23.31 | foof | Yeah, I forgot how painful it was. Last week my system failed to boot after a grub upgrade :/ |
| 04:23.58 | nsadmin | wzssyqa: why is empathy bad? |
| 04:24.13 | Xenguy | I ran it for a couple of years, no major issues thankfully, but too lazy now to try -- stable for me |
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| 04:25.15 | wzssyqa | nsadmin: not only empathy |
| 04:25.38 | wzssyqa | nsadmin: i don't need empathy, |
| 04:25.51 | foof | feels for wzssyqa |
| 04:25.54 | nsadmin | wzssyqa: what exactly did you install to get gnome |
| 04:26.22 | wzssyqa | nsadmin: but when i uninstall empathy,then gnome-desktop-environment uninstall auto |
| 04:27.12 | wzssyqa | thus,lots of gnome app show in status that can autoremovable |
| 04:27.39 | nsadmin | so empathy is considered to be a part of gnome-desktop-environment |
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| 04:27.50 | oggei | moin |
| 04:28.18 | wzssyqa | nsadmin: but not all need it,i used to pidgin |
| 04:29.12 | wzssyqa | nsadmin: maybe it should be in suggest,not dep? |
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| 04:30.20 | nsadmin | wzssyqa: research to see why debian maints for gnome consider it a dependency |
| 04:30.23 | jiunshyong | sorry for intruding ,talking about pidgin, am using pidgin 2.6.3 on squeeze. after update, it can't handle facebook IM. |
| 04:31.52 | wzssyqa | nsadmin: can have a less dep package,which dep less packages? |
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| 04:34.16 | prince_jammys | I keep getting X lockups which apparently (from what I see in the forums/bug reports) might be due to xorg's intel driver. I'm on squeeze. Is it a bad idea to try to downgrade to the xserver-xorg-video-intel from lenny? |
| 04:37.40 | par | Any1 wanna suggest linux backup solutions ? Storage server is centos. We are currently using bacula, but we are looking into something more user-friendly |
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| 04:44.33 | smacnay | par, I like rdiff-backup and flexbackup - both are command line but easy to use. |
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| 04:47.15 | par | smacnay: i used rdiff-backup.. i have to backup > 30 servers from all over the internet, daily, so these two don't scale that well |
| 04:47.21 | foof | Well, logging out of X killed the notebook's keyboard as well, but rebooting restored the bluetooth devices. |
| 04:47.23 | par | it's too time consuming to maintain |
| 04:47.30 | frostschutz | par, BackupPC if you have many machines |
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| 04:47.40 | foof | (and one of the reasons I went back to linux was because reboots weren't necessary!) |
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| 04:49.23 | par | frostschutz: thanks, just looking into it, seems like a solution for me - i am looking more into "click click" solutions, than into console-based hardcore ones, like bacula |
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| 04:52.36 | oggei | but bacula does have a gui |
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| 05:35.35 | Sier | Hi, mysql is being persistent.. I want to complete uninstall it.. but I keep getting errors.. I'm using apt-get purge mysql-server , and I get this: http://pastebin.com/d1fbbb0e2 |
| 05:35.50 | Sier | What can I do? I've been looking @ google for the last hour, nothing.. |
| 05:37.20 | oggei | Sier: try looking at postinst file |
| 05:37.41 | oggei | maybe touching /etc/mysql/conf.d/old_passwords.cnf will suffice |
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| 05:40.40 | Sier | oggei touch did the trick, now I'm getting another error.. which I'm trying to resolve |
| 05:40.42 | oggei | Sier: seems similar to bug #427435 (bugs.debian.org/427435) |
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| 05:42.00 | oggei | anyway in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ you find scripts, you can read them and try to understand failures (and fill bugs, eventually) |
| 05:42.17 | Sier | yes, I'm reading the .postinstall file |
| 05:43.09 | Open | hi guys, can you suggest a clipboard manager utility? X's clipboard functionality mingled the DE clipboards just make the whole concept of clipboards so very very confusing. I think what I'm going for is something that actually shows the last couple of entries.. and when I wish to paste, I can choose/confirm very quickly which entry I want to paste and paste it/ |
| 05:43.45 | Open | does what I'm asking for exist? something even remotely close to it? |
| 05:44.05 | oggei | try apt-cache search clipboard manager |
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| 05:44.14 | Open | ok, thanks |
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| 06:00.15 | Sier | wow! |
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| 06:01.12 | mdeonte | is there a way that I can blacklist a module in one command? |
| 06:01.48 | Sier | oggei problem fixed.. had to re-create a LOT of files.. |
| 06:03.06 | oggei | good |
| 06:03.14 | Sier | thanks a lot.. |
| 06:03.32 | oggei | np you welcome |
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| 06:18.27 | saltthefries | mdeonte, you can run #echo "module_name" > /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf |
| 06:19.06 | mdeonte | thx |
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| 07:41.04 | {g} | Hey People! I added a user with "adduser username". when i become this user by "sudo -u username bash" i get "xset: unable to open display ":0.0"" on my screen. And when I try to start firefox with "firefox" i get "No protocol specified Error: cannot open display: :0.0". Any wizards here who know what to do? |
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| 07:42.52 | cahoot | !sux |
| 07:42.52 | dpkg | sux is a utility for running X apps as a different user. "aptitude install sux" and documentation at http://fgouget.free.fr/sux/ . Also ask me about <root x> for other alternatives. Sux is also the way some people spell sucks and usually implies that they don't know what they are talking about. Ask me about <u>. |
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| 07:44.43 | macrobat_ | your user maybe needs to be a member of some groups |
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| 07:51.11 | {g} | cahoot: ok, i installed sux. now i do (as root) "sux username" and nothing happens. |
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| 07:51.23 | {g} | oh |
| 07:51.28 | {g} | it came back with "timeout in locking authority file" |
| 07:51.31 | cahoot | you run X as root? |
| 07:51.32 | rochie | hi all |
| 07:52.18 | pobega | {g}: 'sux username' should bring you to the user's shell. From there you can execute commands. |
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| 07:53.44 | pobega | {g}: also, as cahoot said, are you running X as root? |
| 07:53.47 | ScottG | How would I go about getting aptitude to download and compile packages for me so they run better on my particular system? |
| 07:54.17 | pobega | ScottG: Possibly apt-build, though it's not really supported as far as I know. |
| 07:54.41 | {g} | [pablo]: no |
| 07:55.55 | pobega | {g}: then why are you going through a root shell? You should go from the the first user's shell to the second, not through root |
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| 07:56.16 | {g} | pobega: oh, i see! |
| 07:56.18 | pobega | {g}: ie as your user (not root!) run `sux username`, then run Firefox or whatever it is you want to run |
| 07:56.49 | pobega | I'm pretty sure all that sux does is forward the $DISPLAY environment variable, really |
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| 08:07.21 | internat | hey does debian support setuid? |
| 08:07.31 | internat | on directories |
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| 08:09.46 | ScottG | internat: I would think that would be file system dependent |
| 08:10.11 | internat | i guess.. |
| 08:10.24 | ScottG | man chmod |
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| 08:13.53 | pav5088 | I'm having issues with my x display in Squeeze... it's defaulting to a very low resolution after an update. I also have had this same behaviour on a virtual machine. What could be going wrong? |
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| 08:20.21 | macrobat_ | pav5088: you can try to se a higher rez with xrandr |
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| 08:24.24 | pav5088 | macrobat, unfortunately it's only offering me up to 800x600 |
| 08:24.42 | pav5088 | (that's what I'm using) |
| 08:25.27 | pav5088 | I've got a GeForce FX 5700LE, but I'm not sure the problem is related to the card because I had this issue on a virtual machine also. |
| 08:25.36 | pav5088 | (on different hardware) |
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| 08:26.03 | franki^ | pav5088: what update was it? |
| 08:26.27 | franki^ | and are you using the nvidia drivers? have you tried reinstalling them? |
| 08:26.31 | pav5088 | franki^, this was a few days ago... perhaps less than a week... |
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| 08:30.09 | pav5088 | franki^, I'm using the Debian supplied NV drivers which have worked fine until now. |
| 08:30.22 | pav5088 | I'm just testing to see if a reinstall will help |
| 08:30.33 | pav5088 | ie. purge and reinstall |
| 08:30.46 | pav5088 | nope |
| 08:31.03 | pav5088 | I think it could be monitor related... |
| 08:31.22 | pav5088 | ie. the correct monitor is not detected and it's dropping back to a supported res. |
| 08:31.49 | pav5088 | Which packages are responsible for monitor detection? |
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| 08:32.12 | pav5088 | ie. the driver lists some high resolutions but says they're out of sync range |
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| 08:36.57 | macrobat_ | maybe you can write a xorg.conf |
| 08:37.21 | macrobat_ | or generate one to edit |
| 08:37.42 | Supaplex | or hire chimps to do it for you |
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| 08:38.23 | pav5088 | Is "kudzu hardware detection" something that needs to happen by default... |
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| 08:38.46 | pav5088 | I'm just looking through available packages and I don't have "hwdata" installed. |
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| 08:38.51 | valio | I have problem setting current locale |
| 08:39.00 | Supaplex | kudzu is a kludge. too agressive. likes to hang the machine in some situations. |
| 08:39.00 | valio | set LANG=bg_BG.CP1251 |
| 08:39.14 | valio | when I run this then echo $LANG |
| 08:39.28 | valio | again remains bg_BG.UTF-8 |
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| 08:39.36 | Supaplex | try export LANG= ... |
| 08:39.37 | pav5088 | Supaplex, so what's the default hw detection? |
| 08:39.47 | Supaplex | xorg has its own afaik |
| 08:39.53 | Supaplex | !xorg setup |
| 08:39.57 | pav5088 | nods |
| 08:40.04 | valio | it worked (y) thank you |
| 08:40.12 | Supaplex | meh. i forget the nifty botfactoidness. |
| 08:40.16 | valio | what is the difference between set and export |
| 08:40.36 | Supaplex | valio: man bash. =) you can add that to your .bash_profile too. |
| 08:40.54 | hoo-hah | help set; help export |
| 08:41.21 | Supaplex | ahh yes. help works well for builtins. |
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| 09:05.07 | draconis | is it possible to install from a live disk that I created with live-helper? |
| 09:05.14 | draconis | or do I need to include specific packages? |
| 09:05.48 | draconis | note: I can and will do old fashioned manual bootstrapping |
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| 09:09.19 | draconis | no debian-installer included in live images? |
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| 09:09.44 | franki^ | sorry, i've never used a debian live cd |
| 09:10.14 | badcloud | anyone know how to monitor a folder for file changes (w/printout of files altered/created/deleted)? |
| 09:10.20 | draconis | I mean, it's a little silly that I have to use cfdisk and copy everything over by hand |
| 09:10.27 | badcloud | preferrably with recursive ability |
| 09:13.09 | draconis | is a live disk essentially a "real install" if I copy everything? |
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| 09:13.34 | draconis | i.e. will I be able to use apt-get update/upgrade, or are there certain hacks added |
| 09:13.35 | flo|linux | hi |
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| 09:15.05 | draconis | oh, well, I wouldn't even be able to install a boot loader |
| 09:15.23 | flo|linux | for my arch linux system i've compiled a kernel and created a initcpio with the arch linux tools... is it possible to use the same kernel (possible even the same initcpio) with debian? |
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| 09:15.54 | flo|linux | or vice versa, using a selfcompiled (or stock?) kernel with a debian initramfs on both distros? |
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| 09:16.18 | flo|linux | or does debian rely on some patches the debian developers have applied? |
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| 09:17.00 | draconis | you can usually use a different kernel |
| 09:17.33 | Sier | how can I install mysql.h @ Debian? |
| 09:17.45 | Sier | I installed libmysqlclient15-dev .. but nothing |
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| 09:18.49 | flo|linux | draconis, and can i use arch's initcpio with debian? |
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| 09:20.18 | draconis | flo|linux, fairly sure it has to be |
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| 09:29.06 | tawan | Chromium-Browser: Sorry if this is smack in the face obvious, I can't find the repo for chromium-browser for Debian |
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| 09:32.32 | franki^ | tawan: that's not really a debian support question, but according to http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/31870-get-your-chrome-experience-on-in-linux "deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable main" should work |
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| 09:32.56 | tawan | franki^, thanks ;) |
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| 09:33.06 | simonrvn | tawan: there isn't any in debian. period. |
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| 10:06.44 | flo|linux | in general, does it make sense that all distros share kernels AND initrds, or should they share kernels and have different initrds (sharing kernels is ok) |
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| 10:07.16 | petemc | flo|linux: huh? |
| 10:07.17 | mrintegrity | why did nobody tell me about debian when i wasted 8 years of my life compiling gentoo and then andother 2 or so being frustrated with ubuntu?? debian _rocks_ ease of use + configurability FTW! |
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| 10:08.24 | flo|linux | petemc, atm i've got debian and arch linux. both should actually use the same kernel. (same configuration) |
| 10:08.34 | mrintegrity | does anyone know a good website that describes apt archives and packages.list files in detail? I can only find basic information but would like more advanced howtos |
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| 10:08.50 | flo|linux | now, should they share their initrds or should each distro have its own initrd? |
| 10:09.11 | petemc | i dont think debian cares what arch does |
| 10:09.43 | macrobat | flo|linux: i think you can make a debian initrd if you need it |
| 10:09.51 | kompulsive | high-fives flo |
| 10:09.55 | flo|linux | ok. |
| 10:09.58 | kompulsive | i use debian and arch too |
| 10:09.59 | kompulsive | heh |
| 10:10.06 | kompulsive | and freebsd |
| 10:10.06 | flo|linux | kompulsive, cool =) |
| 10:10.19 | kompulsive | arch for workstation, debian on web server, and bsd for fileserver |
| 10:10.27 | flo|linux | arch is actually a great system, if it wouldn't crash on every second system upgrade :/ |
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| 10:11.23 | flo|linux | i had fedora for working: was too bleeding edge and not configurable enough. then gentoo: too compile-intensive. then arch: actually cool, but a bit bleeding-edge... |
| 10:11.32 | flo|linux | and now i hope debian is what i want ;) |
| 10:11.46 | flo|linux | hmm... how can i make debian to recognize my harddisk as sda, not as hda? |
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| 10:12.05 | kompulsive | heh, the distro musical chairs game can be addictive lol |
| 10:12.39 | kompulsive | its actually only like my 4th month using *nix lol |
| 10:12.45 | kompulsive | so im still learning a ton |
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| 10:16.40 | flo|linux | is there no way to make my kernel recognize my first hd as sda and not as hda? |
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| 10:16.57 | mrintegrity | is it possible to specify a single package or subpackage in a debian sources.list entry? |
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| 10:17.07 | Gijs | hey all |
| 10:17.09 | mrintegrity | flo|linux: can't you do that with udev rules? |
| 10:17.21 | Gijs | what is the option of zip that it updates new files? |
| 10:17.23 | flo|linux | possibly... |
| 10:17.31 | flo|linux | but i'd like the kernel to use that normal driver... |
| 10:17.39 | flo|linux | that driver all other distros are using, too... |
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| 10:21.02 | valio | hi |
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| 10:22.19 | hoo-hah | flo|linux: which driver? |
| 10:22.35 | flo|linux | hoo-hah, i dunno the name.. but i think it was libata or something like that |
| 10:22.50 | hoo-hah | flo|linux: which release are you using? |
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| 10:23.11 | flo|linux | 2.6.26 |
| 10:23.31 | flo|linux | my 2.6.29 kernel from arch linux shows them as sda |
| 10:23.58 | hoo-hah | debian release.. |
| 10:24.23 | hoo-hah | you can use backported kernels |
| 10:24.29 | hoo-hah | assuming you're on lenny |
| 10:24.47 | flo|linux | oops.. lenny. |
| 10:24.48 | flo|linux | yes |
| 10:24.56 | flo|linux | backported? whats that oO |
| 10:24.58 | hoo-hah | but a udev rule would be easiest |
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| 10:25.12 | hoo-hah | !backports |
| 10:25.13 | dpkg | i guess backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.org/. Ask me about <backports.org> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 10:26.00 | flo|linux | aha oO |
| 10:26.13 | hoo-hah | are those though bubbles? |
| 10:26.15 | flo|linux | hmm, but what's different in the debian kernel to the arch kernel? |
| 10:26.20 | hingwah | I just find that ia32-apt-get seem to be removed from debian, is there an alternative or why it is removed? |
| 10:26.29 | flo|linux | the arch linux kernel calls them sda |
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| 10:27.08 | sash_ | i debugged my iceweasel with iceweasel -g -d, this is what i get: http://pastebin.org/53794. the segfault happens, when i click on an upload-button, so that the filemanager opens |
| 10:27.26 | hoo-hah | flo|linux: maybe libata in .26 does not recognise it? |
| 10:27.55 | hoo-hah | and some other driver is used |
| 10:28.00 | sash_ | any ideas? i got debian unstable and iceweasel 3.5.whatev and all this happens since yesterday after i installed kde4. before that, i just had awesome as wm. |
| 10:28.02 | flo|linux | aha... |
| 10:28.02 | hoo-hah | *library |
| 10:28.20 | flo|linux | so, if i compile a kernel with the settings i used with arch, i have them called sda again? |
| 10:28.21 | sash_ | but that happens in awesome, too. |
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| 10:28.48 | hoo-hah | flo|linux: yes. there's nothing stopping you from compiling you're own kernel with whatever patchset you'd like |
| 10:29.01 | hoo-hah | there's a debian way to build kernels too.. there are guides |
| 10:29.07 | hoo-hah | *your |
| 10:29.22 | flo|linux | ok, so that's what i'll do then |
| 10:29.34 | hoo-hah | I'm using 2.6.31-zen7, in fact |
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| 10:29.41 | flo|linux | actually, i prefer the 2.6.31 kernel. it's ways faster i think |
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| 10:31.24 | flo|linux | hoo-hah, what are the benefits when building them the debian way? |
| 10:31.37 | flo|linux | are there benefits? |
| 10:32.01 | flo|linux | because, in archlinux i prefer the traditional make-way, not the arch-PKGBUILD thingy |
| 10:32.24 | hoo-hah | they'll be packages.. manageable w/ dpkg.. and you can use hooks for post/pre build |
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| 10:32.35 | hoo-hah | eg to update grub or lilo or symlinks |
| 10:32.54 | hoo-hah | I use it to build initramfs, too |
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| 10:33.25 | flo|linux | i see no benefits in manageable kernels, i don't need hooks, and i prefer to see the errors when building the initramfs ;) |
| 10:33.33 | flo|linux | so i should use the traditional method, right ;)? |
| 10:33.43 | hoo-hah | whatever works for you |
| 10:33.54 | flo|linux | ok |
| 10:33.59 | hoo-hah | you're still keen on tinkering... arch was perfect for that |
| 10:34.28 | flo|linux | hoo-hah, yeah. |
| 10:34.37 | flo|linux | but i want to crash my system on my own |
| 10:34.42 | flo|linux | i.e., when i make a mistake |
| 10:34.48 | hoo-hah | I hopped onto that once before.. spent way too much time tinkering |
| 10:34.56 | flo|linux | not when some arch guy inserted a buggy program in the repos |
| 10:35.00 | hoo-hah | I try to limit myself to decor nowadays |
| 10:35.17 | flo|linux | and, to be honest, i like tinkering ;) |
| 10:36.00 | flo|linux | i'm very interested in MINT thingys, and i think that knowlegde to tinker on a *nix system will help when finding a job ;) |
| 10:36.01 | hoo-hah | constant tinkering, though. not a great idea when other responsibilities aries |
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| 10:36.14 | hoo-hah | *arise |
| 10:36.54 | flo|linux | well, on my home machine there are a) no responsibilities and b) at least one distro or image that is working |
| 10:36.58 | hoo-hah | the job description itself will disapprove of tinkering |
| 10:37.09 | hoo-hah | anyhow, must go |
| 10:37.18 | flo|linux | hoo-hah, of course. but tinkering is the best way to learn about the system |
| 10:37.29 | flo|linux | when i crash it, i'll learn what NOT to do |
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| 10:38.03 | hoo-hah | you shouldn't always be preparing yourself for failure, though :) |
| 10:38.16 | hoo-hah | else you'd excel at failing |
| 10:38.34 | hoo-hah | oO Out |
| 10:38.55 | flo|linux | hoo-hah, but a person that never failed won't survive if it once fails ;) |
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| 10:43.28 | umarzuki | hi, why usb_modeswitch cannot change my usb modem from storage mode to modem, before it can but after reinstallation, it can't. I had to explicitly type "usb_modeswitch idProduct=1446 idVendor=12d1" |
| 10:43.47 | umarzuki | then it is detected as usb modem after 2 to 3 minutes |
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| 10:46.48 | sash_ | ok. i backtraced it now: http://pastebin.org/53798 can anybody help? |
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| 10:47.54 | azeem | sash_: that backtrace has no debugging information |
| 10:48.09 | flo|linux | which preemption model should i use for a programming and working system? |
| 10:48.13 | flo|linux | (with Xorg) |
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| 10:48.22 | sash_ | azeem: ok, i thought so. |
| 10:48.30 | flo|linux | voluntary preemption or preemptible kernel? |
| 10:48.47 | azeem | flo|linux: programming questions are off-topic here |
| 10:49.13 | azeem | flo|linux: if you're asking about the kernel schedular, just use the default |
| 10:49.24 | azeem | unless you know what you are doing, in which case you wouldn't ask :) |
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| 10:51.19 | sash_ | azeem: anything else that i can do to find out, what is wrong? |
| 10:51.21 | MarkGil | Hi, I have some strangeness with cron (excuse the newbie questions, I am newish to Linux). I have some cron scripts that fail, and they send me notifications by email from, it seems an arbitrary user on my system. Does this indicate that cron is running under this users permissions? |
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| 10:52.14 | azeem | sash_: what does "ls -l /usr/local/lib" say? |
| 10:52.19 | iceroot | MarkGil: the cron is running with the rights of the user who owns the cronjob |
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| 10:53.29 | c03 | hi |
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| 10:53.43 | c03 | My microphone isn't working, |
| 10:54.05 | sash_ | azeem: http://pastebin.com/f2664769a |
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| 10:56.36 | azeem | ok |
| 10:57.58 | sash_ | azeem: i also tried moving the .mozilla-firefox -directory, tried safe-mode, reinstalled, purged, installed the "real" firefox to /opt, everything. nothing works |
| 10:57.58 | MarkGil | the one in question shows: -rwxrwxrwx 1 root users 298 Nov 15 10:44 mgtasks.sh |
| 10:58.23 | iceroot | MarkGil: never use chmod 777 NEVER |
| 10:58.32 | sash_ | and jelly-home yesterday said, it could be a problem with gtk and qt. |
| 10:58.37 | c03 | Is there any way I can fix my microphone? |
| 10:58.51 | iceroot | c03: not wihtout details of course |
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| 10:59.01 | c03 | What do you want? =) |
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| 10:59.13 | azeem | sash_: is it crashing on startup, or while browsing? |
| 10:59.15 | c03 | I tried turning up the volume of my mic in alsamixer |
| 10:59.28 | c03 | but I didn't get any output |
| 10:59.37 | sash_ | azeem: when i try to up-or download a file, so when the filemanager opens |
| 10:59.41 | iceroot | c03: i want nothing but the others here maybe want some usefull infos and not "its not wirking, how ti fix" |
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| 11:00.28 | c03 | okay |
| 11:00.55 | c03 | It's not working, I don't know which info to provide, help =) |
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| 11:04.16 | MarkGil | I have chowned them root:root what file permission should i use? |
| 11:04.33 | d1b | MarkGil: depends on the file |
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| 11:04.55 | MarkGil | they are all system update kinda tasks |
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| 11:05.31 | MarkGil | updating spamassassin and compiling, some svn updating etc. |
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| 11:11.38 | sash_ | azeem: no more ideas? |
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| 11:18.48 | azeem | sash_: well, install the -dbg packages |
| 11:18.50 | azeem | libglib, xulrunner |
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| 11:29.39 | sash_ | azeem: with the libglib-dbg-package i got some more information: http://pastebin.org/53812. but unfortunately, i am not really able to interprete all this. :( |
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| 11:33.02 | hoo-hah | sash_: do other gtk apps work? |
| 11:33.28 | sash_ | hoo-hah: icedove for example has no problems. |
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| 11:34.08 | sash_ | pcmanfm, too |
| 11:34.37 | azeem | sash_: at least it makes filing a bug more useful |
| 11:35.36 | sash_ | think so, too... damn! |
| 11:36.41 | azeem | sash_: actually, it's filed already |
| 11:36.42 | azeem | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=553149 |
| 11:36.47 | hoo-hah | c03: don't expect output from microphone, then you're fine |
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| 11:37.44 | azeem | unfortunately, nobody reported the bug until it hit testing already |
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| 11:39.02 | hoo-hah | as I haven't installed a mailer, would anything besides exim be suitable for machine only mail? |
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| 11:39.27 | hoo-hah | localhost mail |
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| 11:39.46 | a_l_e | is there a way to set a default email client in debian? |
| 11:39.56 | hoo-hah | I'm interested in receiving mail from crontab |
| 11:40.05 | azeem | what's wrong with exim? |
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| 11:40.48 | LaicepS | Hello everybody . I have troubles with the alt keys. When I hit Alt or Alt Gr, the keyboard is locked and i can't type anymore. |
| 11:41.56 | sash_ | azeem: well, i had this problem in testing, yesterday. i thougt, it would be an iceweasel-thing, so i changed to unstable to have the newer version. so... when i uninstall kde, can i uninstall libglib2, too? i think, i didnt have it installed before, because i never had those problems before. |
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| 11:42.23 | hoo-hah | azeem: nothing. just wondering if something like msmtp-mta could be used instead |
| 11:42.42 | LaicepS | Of course when I release the key, i can type again. |
| 11:42.45 | hoo-hah | to use existing installed packages |
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| 11:43.52 | RichiH | a system was installed with german locale, what do i need to change to get _everything_ as if it was installed with en_us? |
| 11:44.25 | azeem | hoo-hah: exim is not installed? |
| 11:44.36 | azeem | it's installed by default |
| 11:44.59 | azeem | sash_: iceweasel requires libglib |
| 11:45.06 | azeem | you can remove the debugging packages again, of course |
| 11:45.17 | valdyn | RichiH: just change the locale |
| 11:45.29 | azeem | not sure whether kde requires libglib; but what is the point in uninstalling it? |
| 11:45.47 | sash_ | azeem: before i installed it, i didnt have this problem. |
| 11:45.51 | hoo-hah | azeem: nope. I installed with debootstrap |
| 11:46.06 | sash_ | using awesome as wm. and now i also got this problem in awesome. |
| 11:46.43 | azeem | sash_: installed what |
| 11:46.59 | a_l_e | is there a way to set a default email client like one can set a default www browser? (or text editor) |
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| 11:47.04 | hoo-hah | azeem: debian |
| 11:47.13 | hoo-hah | oh, sorry |
| 11:47.33 | azeem | hoo-hah: then you can install whatever MTA you like |
| 11:47.48 | sash_ | azeem: kdm and kde-full |
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| 11:48.17 | valdyn | sash_: libglib2 causing any of your problem is just a wild guess and highly unlikely |
| 11:48.38 | azeem | valdyn: except for #553149 |
| 11:49.18 | azeem | sash_: I don't think that's related other than maybe some package like glib got upgraded in the event as well and now you're seeing the bug |
| 11:50.37 | sash_ | so... i cannot do anything? |
| 11:50.54 | azeem | you can try to downgrade glib |
| 11:51.06 | azeem | if you find a 2.20 version somewhere, and nothing requires 2.22 |
| 11:51.18 | azeem | well, maybe even 2.22.1 works, no idea |
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| 11:54.01 | hoo-hah | does dpkg-buildpackage allow for setting concurrent jobs? |
| 11:54.05 | sash_ | wow, packages that depend on libglib2 (2386) |
| 11:54.19 | hoo-hah | oh, -j |
| 11:54.37 | azeem | hoo-hah: some do via DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS |
| 11:54.40 | azeem | I believe |
| 11:54.48 | azeem | maybe there's something more standard now |
| 11:57.02 | RichiH | valdyn: i already changed the locale, i even deleted all others. still, the keyboard on tty is de, not us |
| 11:57.14 | valdyn | !keymap |
| 11:57.14 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap", or ask me about <drxx> or use kcontrol, gnome-control-center or similar. For setting up X keymaps, also check out xkeycaps and xev, or ask me about <multimedia keys>. In console you can also use "loadkeys" for once-only/temporary adjustments. |
| 11:57.41 | valdyn | RichiH: thats completely independent if locale settings |
| 11:57.49 | RichiH | ta |
| 11:57.49 | valdyn | s/if/of/ |
| 11:58.03 | RichiH | valdyn: that is why i asked how to change _everything_, initially :p |
| 11:58.13 | RichiH | but thanks! |
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| 12:01.25 | votyakf | Hi 2 all |
| 12:01.44 | sash_ | well. am i right: there was a newer version of this glib, but it didnt upgrade in all my apt-get upgrades before, because i had no application that needed it. now i installed kde and any app needs libglib2 in a higher version, so it has been upgraded? i allways thought, everything would upgrade, when i do not hold it and there is a higher version. |
| 12:03.31 | sash_ | k, now i am sure, that it is this bug. pidgin does the same, when i want to send a file |
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| 12:04.45 | hackemate | adobe.com gives a .deb for ubuntu for update flash player, can i use that .deb file in debian without problems in next days? |
| 12:04.52 | hackemate | or there is a best way to update it |
| 12:04.59 | sash_ | and even icedove, when i want to add an attachment. |
| 12:05.31 | umarzuki | how do i use mozilla-flashplayer as default? |
| 12:05.40 | umarzuki | already installed it |
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| 12:05.50 | umarzuki | but it seems that swfdec is used |
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| 12:06.12 | sash_ | azeem: thanks for helping me to figure that out |
| 12:06.48 | hark | umarzuki: where did you get that package from? |
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| 12:07.13 | umarzuki | it is installed when i install lenny |
| 12:07.30 | umarzuki | mozilla-flashplayer? maybe debian-multimedia |
| 12:07.46 | azeem | sash_: you're running testing, right? |
| 12:07.57 | sash_ | azeem: unstable, since yesterday |
| 12:08.07 | azeem | hrm |
| 12:08.18 | hark | umarzuki: oh, ok it's flashplayer-mozilla |
| 12:08.31 | azeem | well, the glib version has not changed in testing/unstable since 3 weeks |
| 12:08.38 | azeem | so maybe something else is buggy as well |
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| 12:09.01 | sash_ | azeem: did you read what i wrote @ 13:01? |
| 12:09.11 | hark | umarzuki: what does readlink /etc/alternatives/flash-mozilla.so say? |
| 12:09.13 | azeem | apt-get upgrade *does* upgrade things |
| 12:09.19 | azeem | not just required upgrades |
| 12:09.25 | sash_ | azeem: k. |
| 12:09.32 | hark | hackemate: no, not recommended at all |
| 12:09.39 | umarzuki | hark: /usr/lib/swfdec-mozilla/libswfdecmozilla.so |
| 12:10.08 | hark | umarzuki: ok, so use update-alternatives to update it |
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| 12:15.57 | MarkGil | hi, whats the cron job apt-xapian-index? It keeps failing for me |
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| 12:16.25 | leafwiz | slashdot is down from norway, and uk. |
| 12:16.34 | leafwiz | anyone else? |
| 12:17.03 | MarkGil | working here in the uk |
| 12:17.48 | MarkGil | http://pastebin.com/m7cc1ab97 |
| 12:18.47 | MarkGil | broken now Error 503 Service Unavailable |
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| 12:19.07 | MarkGil | the ./ mainpage work. |
| 12:20.15 | leafwiz | Ok, yeah work for me to now. |
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| 12:20.53 | umarzuki | hark: thx for the tip man |
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| 12:26.37 | flokuehn | also up from germany |
| 12:26.53 | sash_ | hmm... installed kde-full and iceweasel in an unstable-vm and it does not happen :D |
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| 12:35.24 | Quibus | Hi, is it normal that Google Streetview isn't working on Debian (with proprietary Flash installed even)? |
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| 12:40.46 | Quibus | at least in iceweasel, it works fine in Gnome Web Browser :-) |
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| 12:49.28 | Caelum | Hi, I forgot the password on my old laptop, I booted with init=/bin/sh, remounted and used passwd but it didn't help |
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| 12:51.12 | Caelum | also there's no /etc/shadow when I boot this way |
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| 12:52.17 | epsilon | did you try with a live CD? |
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| 12:52.43 | Caelum | no, would that make a difference? |
| 12:52.53 | abrotman | Caelum: 'didn't help' in what way ? |
| 12:52.55 | abrotman | !ifrp |
| 12:52.56 | dpkg | 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO (e.g. pre-sarge): 1) 'linux init=/bin/sh' at a lilo boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt. |
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| 12:54.20 | Caelum | abrotman: I did exactly that, but it didn't change my password |
| 12:54.42 | abrotman | but you had no errors ? |
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| 12:58.16 | Caelum | no errors |
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| 12:58.45 | Caelum | I also didn't have an /etc/shadow |
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| 13:04.50 | tawan | ya |
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| 13:07.17 | Caelum | ...so what should I do? |
| 13:08.02 | Caelum | reinstall the base system? |
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| 13:09.42 | Saz|Laptop | so I have an eSATA drive hooked up to my computer, and when I try to mount it via gnome, it gives me "You are not privileged to mount the volume," so I have to mount it via sudo in the terminal. Why doesn't it attempt to do this via gksudo? |
| 13:10.22 | Saz|Laptop | this probably isnt suited for #debian as much as #gnome but I figured someone here might know |
| 13:10.54 | Caelum | try adding yourself to group disk |
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| 13:11.39 | Caelum | and relogin |
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| 13:12.53 | abrotman | don't add yourself to the disk group |
| 13:12.54 | [Elvis] | hej guys, I did a aptitude install proftpd-mod-mysql ....and then removed some config files accidentaly.. |
| 13:12.57 | abrotman | that group is not for users |
| 13:13.05 | [Elvis] | after that I did a aptitude remove proftpd-mod-mysql...and tried install again |
| 13:13.09 | [Elvis] | but config ffiles aren't backj? |
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| 13:15.17 | [Elvis] | abrotman do you know how I can get the config files back? |
| 13:15.45 | abrotman | !confmiss |
| 13:15.45 | dpkg | The reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>; |
| 13:17.05 | [Elvis] | thanks |
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| 13:24.09 | MarkGil | Hi, anyone know a unix application that can see where the filesystem is writing files and how often? like a top for file writing? I want to minimise the amount of writing to flash my Debian is making (as flash writes = wear) Running on a Sheevaplug, which is a flash based embedded plug computer |
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| 13:24.22 | krion | hi |
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| 13:25.24 | abrotman | MarkGil: iotop ? |
| 13:25.37 | margiolas_ | hello i am using the posix api for the creation and use of a shared memory, the shmid (shared memory id) is system wide or process dependent? |
| 13:25.42 | Mallxs | Hi i get seg faults on my apache childs ... what is the first thing to check or do ? |
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| 13:29.12 | Piripicchia | hello! |
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| 13:33.27 | Caelum | margiolas_: user-wide |
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| 13:33.57 | Caelum | Mallxs: gdb -c core then bt |
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| 13:36.14 | abrotman | Caelum: what do you mean you don't have a shadow ? |
| 13:36.19 | eshat | hi all,... how can I recommend a package, that should get in the Debian Repository? |
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| 13:37.33 | Caelum | abrotman: when I boot with init=/bin/sh there's no /etc/shadow file |
| 13:37.53 | Caelum | abrotman: maybe my disk is dying and it got lost |
| 13:37.58 | eshat | Caelum: try "mount -o remount,rw /" |
| 13:38.09 | Caelum | yeah I did that |
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| 13:39.34 | eshat | Caelum: now you should have write access to your root-partition |
| 13:39.34 | abrotman | Caelum: it's Debian? which version? |
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| 13:40.15 | Caelum | abrotman: what was sid like a year ago, kernel is 2.6.18 |
| 13:41.00 | abrotman | Caelum: if you 'grep <username> /etc/passwd' .. what's in the second column ? |
| 13:41.23 | Caelum | will look |
| 13:41.51 | Mallxs | Caelum: i added CoreDumpDirectory /etc/apache2/cores to conf and restarted but don't get a core there ? |
| 13:42.49 | eshat | So, How to i recommend packages/programs to the debian team ? |
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| 13:45.54 | abrotman | eshasdfasdhasrgaef |
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| 13:48.37 | valdyn | !wnpp |
| 13:48.38 | dpkg | For information on packages which are not in Debian but you think should be, check the Work-Needing and Prospective Packages list at http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp Also use the script wnpp-alert (from the devscripts package) to see what packages you are using that are in need of help. |
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| 13:49.10 | valdyn | !itp |
| 13:49.11 | dpkg | from memory, itp is Intent To Package, or a bug which is filed against the <wnpp> pseudo-package which indicates that someone is working on packaging a piece of software for Debian. This is done to avoid the duplication of work. |
| 13:49.36 | valdyn | esteel: theres probably no official way as far as i know |
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| 13:50.12 | hoo-hah | I've a crontab entry that runs offlineimap. Now, from shell, it launches fine, syncing mailbox as needed. However, it fails in cron. What could be a potential issue? |
| 13:50.19 | valdyn | esteel: i guess filing an itp stating that you want it to be packaged, not that you want to package isnt totally wrong |
| 13:50.43 | valdyn | hoo-hah: which crontab is this in? |
| 13:50.48 | abrotman | valdyn: he's gone .. |
| 13:51.00 | abrotman | (you told the wrong person) |
| 13:51.10 | valdyn | oops |
| 13:51.24 | valdyn | as usual |
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| 13:53.26 | hoo-hah | valdyn: user's |
| 13:53.36 | hoo-hah | the mail generated is at http://pastebin.com/f4b3e0ba1 |
| 13:54.24 | valdyn | hoo-hah: show the cronjob too |
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| 13:54.43 | hoo-hah | 0 * * * * /usr/bin/offlineimap &>/dev/null |
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| 13:56.47 | hoo-hah | would a users cron not be aware of their environment? |
| 13:57.10 | valdyn | hoo-hah: it can be a different environment than you think it is |
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| 13:58.15 | hoo-hah | auth is in .netrc, and not in .offlineimaprc itself. Could this be an issue? |
| 13:58.31 | hoo-hah | I'm not sure if that traceback is listing local or remote mailbox |
| 13:58.37 | DeSian | i use "php5-cgi apache2-prefork-dev" with mod_suphp on my page, but i cant open the pages because 500 internal error and the logs is http://paste.debian.net/51582/ any idea waht is the problem? |
| 13:58.49 | hoo-hah | so it could potentially be a connection issue? |
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| 13:59.34 | hoo-hah | though this never occured on archlinux nor gentoo |
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| 13:59.44 | hoo-hah | their cron wasn't too different, I don't think |
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| 13:59.56 | valdyn | hoo-hah: no way to make offlineimap print useful error messages? |
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| 14:00.10 | MarkGil | Hi, it is possible to make postfix less verbose? It's filling my logfiles with tonnes of useless routing info, and I just want to see important stuff. |
| 14:01.02 | hoo-hah | I'll remove the redirection and enable a more verbose interface |
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| 14:01.07 | hoo-hah | valdyn: ^ |
| 14:01.41 | hoo-hah | how do I force cron to run crontab irrespective of schedule? |
| 14:02.04 | hoo-hah | it has to be done through cron as it works fine at the console |
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| 14:04.59 | Caelum | abrotman: I ran pwconv to make a shadow and now it's all good |
| 14:05.12 | abrotman | ok |
| 14:06.28 | Caelum | Mallxs: make sure to ulimit -c unlimited before starting the server |
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| 14:09.45 | c03 | can anyone help me getting my mic working? |
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| 14:10.09 | Caelum | wow, I don't even have aptitude on this thing |
| 14:10.32 | Caelum | c03: check that it's not muted in alsamixer |
| 14:10.46 | ilj | when I run teeworlds on my sid while amarok is playing back some music I have no sounds in the game. what is wrong? |
| 14:10.49 | c03 | it is, but that's for output |
| 14:11.03 | hoo-hah | ilj: no mixing |
| 14:11.30 | ilj | hoo-hah, alsa configs need to undergo some editing? |
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| 14:11.43 | hoo-hah | if it's alsa, enable dmix |
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| 14:12.01 | hoo-hah | though I remember reading somewhere that that's enabled by default since some version |
| 14:12.07 | Caelum | alsa is supposed to have mixing by default these days |
| 14:12.09 | hoo-hah | .. of alsa |
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| 14:12.52 | c03 | Caelum: still not working |
| 14:13.08 | hoo-hah | ilj: ~/.asoundrc isn't too hard to write up |
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| 14:13.30 | cahoot | ilj: does teeworld use plain alsa or its oss-emulation - i e /dev/dsp? |
| 14:13.38 | hoo-hah | it's easier when you use the definitions in /proc/asound/cards |
| 14:14.39 | hoo-hah | c03: that'll be useful to you as well |
| 14:15.03 | c03 | !?! |
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| 14:17.25 | hoo-hah | c03: in alsamixer, '?' |
| 14:17.39 | hoo-hah | and look around for capture keybinds |
| 14:18.34 | ilj | cahoot, how do I know if teeworlds uses alsa or oss-emulation? |
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| 14:19.03 | hoo-hah | ilj: it'd be documented somewhere |
| 14:19.15 | Caelum | could try pulseaudio too |
| 14:19.16 | cahoot | ilj: might show in the output of fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp* |
| 14:19.37 | cahoot | (as long as teeworld is running) |
| 14:19.42 | hoo-hah | Caelum: ew |
| 14:19.51 | c03 | In skype, under mic, it says PulseAudio Server |
| 14:19.54 | Caelum | pulse is not bad |
| 14:20.03 | c03 | I can't change it to anyhing else |
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| 14:20.51 | Caelum | make sure it's running |
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| 14:21.13 | c03 | it says the same for output audio, and I can hear skype sounds =) |
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| 14:21.26 | lxsameer | hi , i install gnome 2.28 from my debian repo , but when i try to run file managment from my preference it is not execute , and i get some error aboutgnome-settings-daemo n can any one help me please? |
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| 14:22.11 | abrotman | lxsameer: it's a known bug |
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| 14:23.03 | lxsameer | abrotman: so what should i do to fix that? |
| 14:23.20 | hoo-hah | lxsameer: nothing but wait for a package that addresses it |
| 14:23.27 | abrotman | lxsameer: i'm not sure there is a fix |
| 14:23.29 | hoo-hah | lxsameer: you could use something like pcmanfm |
| 14:23.45 | abrotman | xfe! |
| 14:23.45 | hoo-hah | (in the meantime)) |
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| 14:24.05 | lxsameer | hoo-hah: what is pcmanfm? |
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| 14:24.22 | lxsameer | abrotman: is it a debian bug or gnome bug? |
| 14:24.26 | hoo-hah | lxsameer: advertised as a lightweight gtk-based file manager |
| 14:24.41 | abrotman | lxsameer: i think it's a 'half in/out' bug .. i'm trying to find it |
| 14:24.50 | hoo-hah | oh, xfe isn't too bad at all |
| 14:25.05 | lxsameer | hoo-hah: do you mean xfce? |
| 14:25.33 | lxsameer | abrotman: thanks and if it fixed the shall it come in testing section ? |
| 14:25.39 | hoo-hah | lxsameer: no, abrotman's suggestion |
| 14:25.46 | hoo-hah | http://roland65.free.fr/xfe/images/screenshot-s5.png |
| 14:25.47 | abrotman | lxsameer: i'm sure it would be fixed eventually |
| 14:26.13 | lxsameer | abrotman: hmmmm thanks |
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| 14:26.58 | abrotman | lxsameer: it's fixed in unstable .. hasn't gotten to testing yet |
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| 14:27.25 | hoo-hah | ah, but it doesn't inherit gtk settings |
| 14:27.28 | lxsameer | abrotman: so it is come to testing soon |
| 14:27.33 | abrotman | maybe |
| 14:27.35 | hoo-hah | didn't check the documentation |
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| 14:28.46 | Cybertinus | hello |
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| 14:29.07 | Cybertinus | I'm installing Lenny 5.0.3 i386 on my little home server now |
| 14:29.19 | Cybertinus | and I'm at the point where I must select a mirror for apt |
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| 14:30.02 | Cybertinus | but each server I pick, I get the error "Bad archive mirror - The specified Debian archive mirror is either not available, or does not have a valid Release fiel on it. Please try a different mirror.". |
| 14:30.34 | abrotman | Cybertinus: you can skip that step and add a mirror later |
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| 14:30.47 | Cybertinus | I'm wondering what is going on. I find it a bit weird that 3 or more mirrors are broken at the same moment |
| 14:30.51 | abrotman | Cybertinus: which mirrors have you tried ? |
| 14:30.58 | abrotman | Cybertinus: does your ISP use a proxy? |
| 14:31.07 | Cybertinus | and my internet isn't down also, otherwise I couldn't chat or run the netinstall ;) |
| 14:31.33 | Cybertinus | I tried ftp.nl.debian.org, ftp.nluug.nl and ftp.debian.nl |
| 14:31.41 | Cybertinus | no, my ISP doesn't use a proxy |
| 14:32.06 | MAdhaTTe1 | Cybertinus: you will get that if you can not connect to the mirrors |
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| 14:32.33 | MAdhaTTe1 | Cybertinus: hit F3 open the shell and wget google.com |
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| 14:32.43 | MAdhaTTe1 | if that fails you connection is the problem |
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| 14:33.05 | abrotman | MAdhaTTe1: tried ftp.us.debian.org ? |
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| 14:33.23 | gyyrog | Debian is like 4 dvds now? |
| 14:33.25 | MAdhaTTe1 | have I? no, I usee http |
| 14:33.39 | abrotman | it's a host .. not a method |
| 14:33.45 | abrotman | Cybertinus: tried ftp.us.debian.org ? |
| 14:33.47 | Cybertinus | MAdhaTTe1: I'm trying that now (it is ctrl+alt+F3 btw ;) ) |
| 14:34.00 | TrueDD | Howdy |
| 14:34.11 | Cybertinus | abrotman: trying now |
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| 14:35.00 | MAdhaTTe1 | Cybertinus: the installer uses the new ip routing code |
| 14:35.16 | MAdhaTTe1 | try 'ip addr' and 'ip route' |
| 14:35.24 | Cybertinus | MAdhaTTe1: for some reason I can't ping my default gateway anymore :S |
| 14:35.31 | MAdhaTTe1 | 2 motre points |
| 14:35.48 | [Elvis] | guys, is there any way you can scp and keep permissions? |
| 14:35.50 | MAdhaTTe1 | shrugs |
| 14:36.03 | MAdhaTTe1 | I am sure you can take it from here |
| 14:36.45 | Cybertinus | MAdhaTTe1: yeah, gonna find out why my connection to the internet is gone |
| 14:36.57 | Cybertinus | MAdhaTTe1: I just did a netinst, so you would think it works... |
| 14:37.10 | MAdhaTTe1 | you are not still installing? |
| 14:37.18 | MAdhaTTe1 | thats why i said F3.. |
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| 14:37.36 | Cybertinus | MAdhaTTe1: yes, I'm still installing |
| 14:37.36 | abrotman | Cybertinus: you don't need to use the net .. you can finish the install and find a mirror later |
| 14:37.40 | MAdhaTTe1 | 'ifconfig eth0 up && dhclient eth0' |
| 14:37.57 | Cybertinus | MAdhaTTe1: ifconfig isn't installed on the netinst DVD |
| 14:38.02 | MAdhaTTe1 | 'ifconfig eth0 up && dhclient eth0' -- post install |
| 14:38.08 | Cybertinus | ah, ok |
| 14:38.28 | Cybertinus | but I still need a internet connection, also after the install |
| 14:38.56 | MAdhaTTe1 | yeah, I built a squeeze box from the lab at work, net conn failed on me, I just started over (ctrl alt del) |
| 14:38.59 | abrotman | Cybertinus: you don't need it now .. you can skip choosing the mirror |
| 14:39.16 | Cybertinus | gonna check if I can fix the cable between the server and the switch (I think the problem is at that level). I know for sure that everything after the switch works correctly, otherwise I wasn't able to IRC ;) |
| 14:39.34 | Cybertinus | abrotman: yeah, I know :) |
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| 14:43.50 | Cybertinus | cable is working |
| 14:44.15 | Cybertinus | well, the LEDs on the switch and the server are on, so I assum the cable is correct ;) |
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| 15:02.49 | djkm | I want to install TightVNC. I tried "apt-get install tightvncserver", I could not install it. |
| 15:02.53 | djkm | what am I missing exactly? |
| 15:03.21 | azeem_ | djkm: the error message |
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| 15:07.06 | markybob | farewell, oh sweet /. |
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| 15:10.39 | badcloud | anyone know of a prog/script for converting .ics files to sqlite format? |
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| 15:13.03 | sash_ | azeem_: as a workaround, i installed an older version of libglib2.0-0 from ubuntu jaunty O.o |
| 15:13.46 | azeem_ | sash_: which version? |
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| 15:16.33 | sash_ | azeem_: 2.20-1 |
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| 15:18.19 | azeem_ | sash_: libglib version usually have a third digit |
| 15:18.42 | azeem_ | so 2.20.1-0ubuntu2.1= |
| 15:18.50 | azeem_ | it's not very helpful to be unprecise here |
| 15:18.55 | sash_ | azeem_: libglib2.0-0_2.20.1-0ubuntu2.1_i386.deb: |
| 15:19.00 | azeem_ | ok |
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| 15:19.11 | azeem_ | sash_: and it does not crash with this one? |
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| 15:19.17 | sash_ | azeem_: nope |
| 15:19.21 | sash_ | that works |
| 15:19.21 | azeem_ | sash_: good |
| 15:19.48 | sash_ | tried the version from debian stable, but it is too old. |
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| 15:20.10 | azeem_ | sash_: can you please mail 553149@bugs.debian.org, saying you reproduced the crash, and that it goes away if you install the above version from jaunty |
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| 15:20.20 | fredl | hmm that was interesting again... |
| 15:20.24 | fredl | f'ing freenode |
| 15:20.26 | sash_ | azeem_: did it a few minutes ago |
| 15:20.31 | azeem_ | sash_: great! |
| 15:20.31 | fredl | well at the risk of double asking: |
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| 15:20.37 | fredl | does anybody know how I make the Monitor section in xorg.conf be assigned to a particular output port of the gfx card? |
| 15:20.42 | fredl | right now I've defined a Monitor section called 'Tatung V42' and in the log I see: Output VGA-0 using monitor section Tatung V42 followed by Output HDMI-0 has no monitor section |
| 15:21.25 | azeem_ | sash_: and again, it's *not* "version 2.20" |
| 15:21.54 | azeem_ | but ok, close enough |
| 15:22.03 | sash_ | azeem_: yes ^^. i saw, but i linked the download-link |
| 15:22.15 | azeem_ | sash_: do you feel like trying the karmic version as well, maybe? |
| 15:22.28 | maurizio | on lenny (ppc), it seems to me that the /etc/network/if-up.d/1masqmail script does not work properly (does not write the name of the "up" interface in masqmail's ROUTEFILE). Does someone use masqmail on lenny successfully? |
| 15:22.28 | azeem_ | it's almost the same as Debian, so if that one works, the difference would be very smal |
| 15:22.32 | sash_ | azeem_: the karmic is 2.22.*** |
| 15:22.38 | azeem_ | I know |
| 15:22.49 | sash_ | i can try this |
| 15:23.02 | sash_ | but i dont think, that will work |
| 15:24.31 | jandro | Hi. I get the error "mount: / is busy" when executing "mount -o remount,ro /" in single-user mode. I'm trying to migrate my squeeze installation from ext3 to ext4. Any idea how to solve the problem? thanks |
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| 15:25.31 | sash_ | azeem_: doesnt even start |
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| 15:25.50 | azeem_ | sash_: ok, can you go back to the Debian testing version |
| 15:25.55 | azeem_ | I think I found a work-around |
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| 15:26.23 | sash_ | k, mom |
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| 15:27.55 | jelly-home | jandro: use a livecd? |
| 15:27.56 | sash_ | azeem_: installed the unstable-version and firefox segfaults again |
| 15:28.14 | azeem_ | sash_: ok |
| 15:28.41 | azeem_ | sash_: now try "mv ~/.local/share/mime/mime.cache /tmp" |
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| 15:28.53 | azeem_ | and then try to crash it again, does it still crash? |
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| 15:29.58 | jandro | jelly-home: the howto I'm following hosted in www.debian-administration.org says there's no need for livecd |
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| 15:30.16 | jelly-home | !tutorials |
| 15:30.16 | dpkg | A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their system without reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to look for hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way. |
| 15:30.42 | sash_ | azeem_: it doesnt |
| 15:30.49 | azeem_ | ok |
| 15:30.58 | azeem_ | this is https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591606 |
| 15:30.59 | sash_ | nice... whats that? |
| 15:31.11 | azeem_ | apparently something in that file is corrupt and libgio trips over it |
| 15:31.23 | jelly-home | jandro: a proper way to switch to ext4 involves backup, mkfs and restore, to make all the files/directories use new features |
| 15:31.38 | azeem_ | sash_: move it back from /tmp to a safe place for future purposes |
| 15:31.49 | azeem_ | sash_: did you file system run full at some point in the past? |
| 15:31.56 | sash_ | azeem_: no |
| 15:32.19 | azeem_ | sash_: now the question is in which cases the bug appears |
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| 15:32.49 | sash_ | azeem_: why do i need this file mime.cache |
| 15:32.56 | jandro | jelly-home: thanks, i'll consider reinstalling the system with ext4 from scratch. |
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| 15:33.04 | sash_ | btw: i moved it to ~/temp |
| 15:33.37 | jelly-home | jandro: uh... no need for a reinstall, but if that's an option, sure |
| 15:33.52 | sash_ | azeem_: well, everything, what i can say, is that i installed kde-full and kdm yesterday and never had this problem before. |
| 15:34.31 | azeem_ | sash_: if you are really brave, try to reproduce this with the new install you mentioned in your note to the bug :-/ |
| 15:34.57 | azeem_ | could be that kde adds some strange mime types which the libgio parser can't handle |
| 15:35.42 | sash_ | azeem_: i had a debian-server vm. i made it unstable, installed kde-full and kdm plus iceweasel, and i am not able to reproduce that |
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| 15:36.04 | azeem_ | ok |
| 15:36.24 | jandro | jelly-home: sure, but I don't think i'm experienced enough to so do, anyway I'm gonna read more info about it. thanks |
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| 15:36.45 | sash_ | jelly-home: got it? my problem from yesterday is solved. |
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| 15:37.14 | Josh__ | How would you guys suggest I get some EXT4 support in my kernel on a new debian lenny install? |
| 15:37.46 | sash_ | azeem_: i will move that mime.cache into the vm |
| 15:38.06 | abchirk_coffeine | Josh__, making your own kernel |
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| 15:38.52 | Rusty1 | tried to install flash10 from the Adobe .deb it seems to have borked dpkg/apt http://pastebin.com/d4383004e.deb |
| 15:39.14 | Rusty1 | need a tut or howto manually fix |
| 15:39.36 | Rusty1 | http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto << Josh__ |
| 15:39.38 | jelly-home | sash_: "solved" as in "worked around" or "fixed"? |
| 15:40.38 | jelly-home | Rusty1: huh... didn't Adobe tell that .deb file was for Ubuntu, not Debian? |
| 15:41.07 | sash_ | jelly-home: worked around, i think |
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| 15:41.16 | Rusty1 | feigns ignorance |
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| 15:41.38 | shazam | a package I don't need can't be installed properly, so it tries to install it every time I apt-get, how do I simply remove it? |
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| 15:42.02 | dashaebig | hello |
| 15:42.12 | djkm | Anyone familiar with hotlink protection? |
| 15:42.19 | dashaebig | are there any known bugs on debian lenny @ amd64 when using an mdadm raid with XFS filesystem? |
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| 15:42.56 | azeem_ | jelly-home: it talks about "iceape-flashplugin" at least; not sure whether Ubuntu has iceapr |
| 15:43.00 | azeem_ | iceape* |
| 15:43.05 | dashaebig | my setup (lenny, amd64, one RAID 0 XFS partition with mdadm) keeps on crashing randomly. i always have to unmount/remount the partition and dmesg tells some nasty things which i dont really understand |
| 15:43.35 | Rusty1 | jelly-home: actually http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/otherversions/ , linux doesnt spec ubuntu |
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| 15:43.54 | MAd_haTTer | dashaebig: check out memtest86+ |
| 15:44.19 | MAd_haTTer | 'aptititude install memtest86+ and reboot, pick it in grub |
| 15:44.31 | MAd_haTTer | only real way to test memory |
| 15:44.47 | tonyd | How do I set up a wireless connection with wpa and a static ip address in debian? I have the wireless card configured, I just need to set up the static ip with wpa |
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| 15:45.07 | MAd_haTTer | tonyd: wpa_supplicant |
| 15:45.38 | jelly-home | MAd_haTTer: I've heard of errors only cropping up when doing eg. kernel rebuilds for a few days, and memtest86 not detecting any |
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| 15:46.26 | MAd_haTTer | jelly-home: could be a cpu that cant do math... you are supposed to run memtest for min 1 day |
| 15:46.31 | MAd_haTTer | I use cpuburn too |
| 15:46.45 | MAd_haTTer | first two things I do agter building a system |
| 15:46.47 | sash_ | azeem_: it doesnt segfault |
| 15:46.55 | MAd_haTTer | after* |
| 15:47.01 | tonyd | do I need to install the wpa_gui? |
| 15:47.25 | MAd_haTTer | tonyd: you tell me ;) |
| 15:47.35 | MAd_haTTer | no, unless YOU need it |
| 15:48.01 | MAd_haTTer | if you are doing this manually, you can do your iwconfig.. |
| 15:48.03 | tonyd | okay, can I use that to also configure the static ip? |
| 15:48.09 | MAd_haTTer | and ifconfig wlan0 .... |
| 15:48.15 | dashaebig | MAd_haTTer: do you think it's a memory problem? |
| 15:48.45 | MAd_haTTer | " keeps on crashing randomly" - leans that way.. could be a bad hd.. |
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| 15:48.52 | jelly-home | Rusty1: find where update-alternatives is used in /var/lib/dpkg/info/adobe-flashplugin.*rm, comment it out, and redo the removal |
| 15:48.54 | azeem_ | sash_: what version of libglib is installed there? |
| 15:48.55 | dashaebig | the HDs are new |
| 15:48.56 | MAd_haTTer | but ram will go bad.. |
| 15:49.06 | MAd_haTTer | check ram first then |
| 15:49.13 | dashaebig | after remounting the disks there's no problem with the files |
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| 15:49.16 | dashaebig | hm ok |
| 15:49.18 | Josh__ | This is gonna be hairy - I'm glad I made a RAID1 for my 750 gig drives |
| 15:49.18 | sash_ | azeem_: the unstable-version, i would say. |
| 15:49.23 | dashaebig | MAd_haTTer: do you think maybe some wrong bios settings could cause this? |
| 15:49.24 | sash_ | i will have a look |
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| 15:50.54 | MAd_haTTer | dashaebig: most anything is possible, are you using a p4M800Pro ? if so burn it.... |
| 15:51.06 | azeem_ | sash_: maybe the mime.cache needs to be registered/updated somewhere before it gets read |
| 15:51.09 | MAd_haTTer | otherwize just run memtest for a day |
| 15:51.17 | Josh__ | Supposedly there's an 'ext4dev' module I can insmod into the kernel, but I still can't mount ext4 volumes - even with -t ext4dev |
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| 15:51.42 | MAd_haTTer | Josh__: did you try -t ext4 |
| 15:51.53 | MAd_haTTer | shrugs |
| 15:52.05 | sash_ | azeem_: it is the actual unstable-version |
| 15:52.24 | Josh__ | MAd_haTTer, mount: unknown filesystem type 'ext4 |
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| 15:53.02 | MAd_haTTer | just a stab in the dark.. im on ext3 so I cant comment.. |
| 15:53.17 | sash_ | azeem_: you think, i should mail this mime.cache-thing, too? |
| 15:54.05 | abrotman | Josh__: /msg dpkg bpo .. you need a different kernel, the one that lenny has, the .26) doesn't have ext4 support |
| 15:54.43 | Josh__ | abrotman, ahh, gotcha. |
| 15:54.57 | abrotman | Josh__: so follow the instrutions at backports.org |
| 15:55.30 | Josh__ | It's not really worth it for a production drive - I'm gonna pull one of my mirrored drives off the RAID1 and format it to something sane in lenny (stable), and copy the data back |
| 15:56.23 | azeem_ | sash_: well, first check whether maybe any sensible data is in there (but from the look of the one from the GNOME bug, there probably isn't) |
| 15:56.58 | sash_ | azeem_: its a binary-file :) |
| 15:57.10 | azeem_ | sash_: right, but there are strings in it |
| 15:57.12 | Josh__ | Now I need a livecd that supports EXT4 - and reiserfs - I think the ubuntu cd would be a good choice :) |
| 15:57.19 | azeem_ | sash_: but yeah, attaching it to the GNOME bug would be helpful I guess; in that case, also mention that there's a Debian bug and that downgrading to 2.20 helps |
| 15:58.03 | maurizio | Is is at all possible to use masqmail with NetworkManager? bug #332851 (message #10) seems to imply that masqmail requires setting some variables in /etc/network/intefaces, which means that the interface must be defined there (and therefore not controlled by Network Manager). |
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| 15:58.30 | sash_ | azeem_: the libglib2.0-0 version those guys run, should be the correct one, because it is a jaunty-bug |
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| 16:02.17 | azeem_ | hrm |
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| 16:03.06 | Josh__ | not marked OK to use with test code. |
| 16:03.18 | Josh__ | EXT4-fs: sda1: not marked OK to use with test code. |
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| 16:06.18 | Wyzard | Josh__: You're using an older kernel where ext4 is considered experimental |
| 16:07.27 | Josh__ | Wyzard, I know - At this point I'm trying to get the data off the drive - it's progress though! |
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| 16:08.14 | phorce1 | what is the meta package for installing all requirements for building modules? |
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| 16:09.22 | phorce1 | would have sworn that there was one like "builddeps". He just woke up though so maybe hes crazy |
| 16:09.35 | Wyzard | I don't know if there's one specifically for modules, but build-essential is the basic set of dependencies for building Debian packages |
| 16:09.45 | Wyzard | which should provide all that you need for kernel modules |
| 16:09.54 | phorce1 | hah! build-essential. Thank you Wyzard |
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| 16:10.47 | Illuminatus | hi, can some one tell me why PHP not start on Lenny? |
| 16:11.02 | phorce1 | I had "deps" stuck in my brain and apt-cache searching on just "build" pops up a BIG list. |
| 16:11.35 | Josh__ | Supposedly I can mark my filesystem as "testing" - and therefore mountable with the experimental module ext4dev - by using the command tune2fs -E test_fs /dev/yourfilesystem. I just dont want to screw up the data on the drive with that command, I cant find any documentation on it |
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| 16:12.07 | Wyzard | Josh__: Why not just use an Ubuntu CD like you'd mentioned earlier? |
| 16:12.22 | phorce1 | Now lets see how long it takes to install "build-essential" on a 460MHz Celeron with 256MiB of RAM |
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| 16:12.41 | Josh__ | Wyzard, I'm trying not to reboot the machine, if I can help it. That's probably a good idea to maintain data integrity. |
| 16:12.46 | Wyzard | ah |
| 16:12.47 | jelly-home | Josh__: don't -- find a livecd with a kernel that supports ext4 properly, one with a 2.6.28 or better .30 kernel |
| 16:12.52 | Josh__ | gets ready for a reboot |
| 16:12.55 | Illuminatus | /etc/init.d/php-fastcgi start > omajgat:~# /etc/init.d/php-fastcgi stop > start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 28946: No such process |
| 16:13.05 | Illuminatus | ;/ |
| 16:13.19 | Illuminatus | why, pipol, why ;/ |
| 16:13.35 | Wyzard | Josh__: Look up "network block device"... if you want to get tricky, you could export the partition over the network to another machine running a newer kernel (e.g. from that CD) |
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| 16:13.59 | Rusty1 | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/d5ff4e206 is the prerm, i remove each of the variants and get the same error with the resulting |
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| 16:15.46 | Illuminatus | !help php |
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| 16:16.38 | gyyrog | I want to install debian via the small cd/internet route |
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| 16:16.50 | gyyrog | there are 3 files in the cd install directory |
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| 16:17.01 | abrotman | which directory ? |
| 16:17.02 | gyyrog | what do I do with them? |
| 16:17.08 | Illuminatus | I want run php |
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| 16:17.14 | S1kx | Why does apache2 have as standalone (non-package) not have a reload option? |
| 16:17.15 | gyyrog | http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/cdrom/ |
| 16:17.37 | abrotman | gyyrog: wrong place |
| 16:17.47 | gyyrog | where should I look? |
| 16:17.53 | wireddd | abrotman should win the irc tech support person of the year award |
| 16:18.05 | abrotman | http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.3/i386/iso-cd/ .. gyyrog: you want the netinst |
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| 16:18.31 | abrotman | wireddd: does arstechnica still have that best/worst annual thing ? |
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| 16:19.05 | gyyrog | so i boot off that cd, hooked up to the web and it will pull all the files down for me? |
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| 16:19.25 | abrotman | assuming your NIC/Wifi are supported, yes |
| 16:19.55 | ge0rge007 | hello!I have a lenovo t61 laptop with debian lenny and i have plugged another screen with it.The screen that i have plugged doesn't show anything now and i want to make it work.I don't want to work parallel with these 2 screens (extended desktop) i just want to have at the external screen what i am seeing at my laptop one. |
| 16:20.22 | abrotman | xrandr |
| 16:20.26 | gyyrog | should be, itis a standard older dell |
| 16:20.45 | abrotman | dell .. standard .. hehe |
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| 16:22.03 | Josh__ | This cd booted me to an environment with almost no utilities.. How can I find the model # of a /dev/sd? device using only /proc ? |
| 16:22.19 | Rusty1 | ge0rge007: doesnt fn F7/F8 do that? |
| 16:22.38 | cahoot | ge0rge007: xrandr --output VGA --auto |
| 16:22.54 | Wyzard | Josh__: /sys/block/sda/device/model |
| 16:23.19 | wireddd | abrotman: I think so |
| 16:23.29 | ge0rge007 | fn f7 or f8 doesn't do anything |
| 16:23.39 | abrotman | Josh__: dmesg |
| 16:23.59 | ge0rge007 | cahoot:thanks |
| 16:24.03 | ge0rge007 | that worked:D |
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| 16:25.54 | wireddd | abrotman: I don't think they do, last I can find is 2004 |
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| 16:26.42 | abrotman | wireddd: i know they did 2005, because #debian was mentioned .. oh well |
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| 16:30.07 | Josh__ | Oh, I forgot - ubuntu likes to load all utilities and device drivers after the initial livecd system setup |
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| 16:35.17 | bjqrn | hmm got a really strange error when using apt-get install |
| 16:35.23 | bjqrn | . /usr/sbin/murmurd: Symbol `_ZTIN6google8protobuf7MessageE' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking |
| 16:35.32 | bjqrn | . just there for pasting... |
| 16:36.01 | bjqrn | or really it's when I try to run /usr/sbin/murmurd |
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| 16:42.17 | [Elvis] | hej guys, how can I give chown and chrgrp to a directory, where the user doesn't exist for? |
| 16:42.25 | [Elvis] | I have ftp users which are not system users |
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| 16:43.30 | Wyzard | [Elvis]: You can't -- filesystem ownership is always system users |
| 16:44.57 | [Elvis] | wyzard actually not |
| 16:45.43 | [Elvis] | is it possible to scp rememberin usernames? |
| 16:45.51 | psychik | use a ftpd chrooted with a virtual user file |
| 16:46.06 | cahoot | elvis the -p option doesn't? |
| 16:46.10 | [Elvis] | no |
| 16:46.13 | [Elvis] | it puts it under root |
| 16:46.14 | [Elvis] | everything |
| 16:46.38 | cahoot | use rsync? |
| 16:46.58 | xand | use -a |
| 16:47.22 | xand | no wait |
| 16:47.54 | wildc4rd | evening all |
| 16:48.04 | xand | [Elvis]: -p is the option |
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| 16:49.52 | flaccid | bind won't start - problem with rndc key and i cant work out how to reset it |
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| 16:52.38 | Kbyte | ) |
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| 16:54.16 | pflanze | decides [Elvis] is totally confusing |
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| 16:54.52 | ultralazer | heh use vim. |
| 16:55.16 | Araneidae | Anybody remember the command for interrogating the termcap database and generating appropriate escape sequences on the command line? |
| 16:55.37 | Araneidae | I'm sure there was something I used years and years ago, can't remember what it's called |
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| 16:55.53 | pflanze | *H* (ultralazer: you have missed the discussion above, I'm talking about the user named [Elvis]) |
| 16:56.21 | ultralazer | oh hehe. |
| 16:56.24 | ultralazer | even worse. |
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| 17:00.35 | Araneidae | The answer to my question is: tput (hunting through my "Unix Power Tools" O'Reilly book, highly recommended) |
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| 17:01.29 | BlouBlou | #debian-es |
| 17:01.36 | BlouBlou | sorry, forget /join |
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| 17:04.01 | Supaplex | !tput |
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| 17:04.37 | Supaplex | pats whatis |
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| 17:05.41 | efaistos | is there any known issue with xorg in testing ? |
| 17:05.54 | wireddd | check the bugtracker? |
| 17:05.57 | efaistos | I can start X but then I just have the mouse and nothing else |
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| 17:06.14 | efaistos | tried awesone and gnome and same thing |
| 17:06.16 | efaistos | :( |
| 17:06.26 | Supaplex | efaistos: bts shows lots of known issues in testing for xorg. |
| 17:06.27 | wireddd | did you apt-get install gdm? |
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| 17:06.50 | efaistos | Supaplex: thanks for the information ;) |
| 17:07.03 | Supaplex | e'yah. anytime. ;o) |
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| 17:07.09 | efaistos | wireddd: gdm same it freezes when I try to type the password |
| 17:07.23 | efaistos | even if I try to log from another computer cant kill X |
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| 17:07.36 | efaistos | that's crap ... |
| 17:07.39 | efaistos | :( |
| 17:07.45 | efaistos | hmmm ... |
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| 17:09.58 | efaistos | dunno if I can use the one from stable .. |
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| 17:17.06 | efaistos | and of course the stable one has too much dependencies :'( |
| 17:17.16 | efaistos | is f****d |
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| 17:18.18 | markybob | darkham, that's nice |
| 17:18.48 | darkham | markybob, nice_ |
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| 17:19.54 | darkham | markybob, nice? |
| 17:20.13 | Rusty1 | jelly-home: ended up rm'ing the prerem, postinst etc. apt seems ok now |
| 17:20.34 | pif | hi, under debian sid when i install an iceweasel extension it doesn't appear in the addon list, any suggestion? |
| 17:21.06 | gyyrog | hey, I am trying to use the net install cd |
| 17:21.38 | gyyrog | it goes into a black screen at boot and pauses for like 30 seconds then boots to the hard drive |
| 17:22.28 | gyyrog | am i doing something wrong? |
| 17:22.29 | abrotman | gyyrog: so it technically works fine ? |
| 17:23.51 | gyyrog | no, there is xp on the hard drive |
| 17:23.59 | efaistos | just format it :p |
| 17:24.28 | gyyrog | shouldn't I just have to boot off that cd and it will install? |
| 17:24.46 | abrotman | gyyrog: so it doens't boot the installer? |
| 17:25.09 | efaistos | have you checked the bios option to boot from the cd ? |
| 17:25.16 | Sier | Good morning, how can I obtain mysql.h (A software needs it to install).. I already installed packages mysql-server, mysql-server-5.0, libmysql++-dev, libmysql++3, libmysqlclient15off, libmysqlclient15-dev |
| 17:25.22 | do0ob | cries |
| 17:25.29 | do0ob | my grub2 is always causing me headaches |
| 17:25.29 | gyyrog | I will check, brb |
| 17:25.36 | Supaplex | !tell Sier -about search |
| 17:25.50 | efaistos | do0ob: on my side its X ! |
| 17:25.51 | Sier | I searched ALL packages, installed all |
| 17:25.55 | Sier | still nothing. |
| 17:25.58 | Supaplex | Sier: apt-file can help you find that. Additionally, if the software you want is already a .deb, try that first. |
| 17:26.09 | abrotman | Sier: did you try with apt-file ? |
| 17:26.20 | Sier | no |
| 17:26.23 | efaistos | (screen+console+irssi)++ |
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| 17:26.57 | Supaplex | ^5 |
| 17:27.02 | Supaplex | ^5's efaistos |
| 17:27.53 | gyyrog | yeah, it is set to boot off cd |
| 17:28.10 | gyyrog | the drive goes for about 30 seconds then drops into xp |
| 17:28.20 | Supaplex | efaistos: that and screen -x from all over the lan. :) |
| 17:28.26 | abrotman | sounds like there's something wrong with the CD |
| 17:28.32 | do0ob | FFS, hardware failure again |
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| 17:28.53 | Supaplex | !lart do0ob's defective hardware |
| 17:28.53 | dpkg | teaches do0ob's defective hardware the basics, including how to RTM |
| 17:28.55 | do0ob | even dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb is failing |
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| 17:29.18 | efaistos | Supaplex: Yay! |
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| 17:29.35 | do0ob | how do you kill a task which does not respond to ctrl+C? |
| 17:29.41 | do0ob | brb, i'm going to pull the hdd |
| 17:29.51 | efaistos | do0ob: try dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda :) |
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| 17:32.15 | sash_ | azeem_: jelly-home : thanks again. nice evening |
| 17:32.28 | Ironhand | hello, I've just upgraded my Etch desktop to Squeeze, and everything seems to be working fine, except for one rather annoying thing... a significant number of keys, such as arrow keys, function keys, etc, no longer works |
| 17:32.52 | Ironhand | anyone have a clue what may be causing this? I've tried loading multiple different xmodmap files, including some of those in /usr/share/xmodmap/ |
| 17:33.26 | abrotman | efaistos: that's not funny, don't tell him that |
| 17:33.27 | Rusty1 | jelly-home: ty here as well |
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| 17:34.11 | Gijs | guys help me and don't send me to ##php |
| 17:34.52 | abrotman | did you ask a question? |
| 17:34.52 | Josh__ | abrotman, seriously. That's bullshit. |
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| 17:34.59 | abrotman | Josh__: eh wha ? |
| 17:35.05 | ultralazer | is ##php not helpful? |
| 17:35.13 | Gijs | i make a zip file with php but i use the command zip but with php ssh2 it makes a zip file with size 0 and if i use the same command in putty it works |
| 17:35.14 | Josh__ | abrotman, ^^ at efaistos' post. |
| 17:35.17 | badcloud | is there a script or program out there to convert ics to sqlite? |
| 17:35.31 | abrotman | Josh__: yes .. the guy he told it to had already quit |
| 17:35.37 | Josh__ | Gijs, permissions? |
| 17:35.45 | Gijs | huh? |
| 17:35.48 | Josh__ | oh, it makes a zero byte file |
| 17:35.52 | Josh__ | shouldnt be permissions then. |
| 17:36.01 | Josh__ | unless it's /read/ |
| 17:36.42 | Gijs | i think i don't know but, maby because if you use the cmd in putty you see soooooo much text in the output with wich files will be imported |
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| 17:37.28 | Gijs | so anybody got an idea? |
| 17:38.07 | ultralazer | why not go to ##php? really, why not? |
| 17:38.33 | Gijs | cause i think it is a debian problem |
| 17:38.40 | ultralazer | oh ok. |
| 17:38.44 | do0ob | ok got rid of the defective SEAGATE hdd |
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| 17:39.11 | Gijs | is there any paramater i can add so it will put it in something like a background so you won't see the output? |
| 17:39.46 | abrotman | Gijs: does the zip program work when you run it yourself ? |
| 17:40.01 | Gijs | yes |
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| 17:40.10 | Gijs | but if i do it with php it makes a file with size 0 |
| 17:40.15 | DustyDingo | hi |
| 17:40.40 | DustyDingo | does nvidia glx driver work curretnly in testing? |
| 17:40.53 | DustyDingo | 3 weeks ago they did not |
| 17:41.06 | Gijs | abrotman, you got any idea? |
| 17:41.26 | abrotman | Gijs: what user is apache running as? |
| 17:41.38 | abrotman | DustyDingo: i think the current answer is to pull it from unstable |
| 17:41.39 | Gijs | it is not appache |
| 17:41.43 | Gijs | it is ssh2 |
| 17:41.48 | Gijs | it runs on a normal debian user |
| 17:42.01 | Gijs | and if i try to use the same command with that debian user in putty it works |
| 17:42.29 | gyyrog | my computer does not seem to want to boot of the net-install cd |
| 17:42.48 | gyyrog | cd is set as the primary boot device |
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| 17:43.03 | gyyrog | the drive lights up for a second, then it moves on to the hard drive |
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| 17:43.29 | Gijs | abrotman, ? |
| 17:43.41 | Rusty1 | gyyrog: in xp can you see the contents of the cd? |
| 17:43.47 | abrotman | Gijs: what is "ssh2" ? |
| 17:43.51 | gyyrog | let me check |
| 17:43.57 | Gijs | ssh2_exec |
| 17:44.02 | Gijs | it exec a normal command |
| 17:44.03 | abrotman | gyyrog: what speed did you burn the ISO? (you did burn it as an image right?) |
| 17:44.14 | abrotman | Gijs: so you're running a script from the shell ? |
| 17:44.24 | Gijs | yes |
| 17:44.32 | Gijs | i think it doesn't imput |
| 17:45.10 | gyyrog | no, i can not see anything on the disc |
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| 17:45.48 | Gijs | so example: |
| 17:45.58 | Gijs | sh-3.2$ zip -r test.zip * |
| 17:45.58 | Gijs | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:46.06 | Gijs | then it won't do the adding: test.txt (stored 0%) |
| 17:47.00 | Rusty1 | gyyrog: looks like the cd didn't get burned correctly |
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| 17:47.35 | Gijs | abrotman, ?+ |
| 17:47.38 | abrotman | Gijs: so test.txt is 0 bytes ? |
| 17:47.46 | Gijs | uhhhm no wait |
| 17:48.01 | Gijs | it is a fast file i made with test in it |
| 17:48.11 | Gijs | this is just a example |
| 17:48.29 | Gijs | is it possible to put it into background or something lol? |
| 17:48.40 | twisted | & |
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| 17:49.00 | twisted | Gijs: any_command &; |
| 17:49.09 | twisted | allows you to run it in the bg instead of fg |
| 17:49.24 | abrotman | Gijs: so .. ` dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/test.txt bs=10240 count=10 ; zip /tmp/test.zip /tmp/test.txt` .. works ? |
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| 17:49.49 | Gijs | uhhhm |
| 17:50.00 | Gijs | i use this: cd $path; zip -r $backupdir$backupName * &; |
| 17:50.08 | Gijs | and they will be replace good |
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| 17:52.45 | abrotman | Gijs: but your command works if you type it in ? |
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| 17:52.46 | Gijs | this is my cmd: cd /home/test/; zip -r /home/Backup/backup-19.rar * &; |
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| 17:52.47 | Gijs | that works in putty but not in php |
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| 17:52.47 | abrotman | and your script is written in PHP ? |
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| 17:52.51 | Gijs | yes it is just only one line with ssh2_exec |
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| 17:53.05 | gimpscape__ | hi |
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| 17:53.12 | abrotman | you want to use the full path to the zip command .. you probably don't have a $PATH |
| 17:53.18 | Archer | Is there a debian minimul CD ? |
| 17:53.24 | gimpscape__ | how can I uninstall metapackage _and_ all packages installed by this metapackage? |
| 17:53.27 | Gijs | it works in ssh the whole cmd |
| 17:53.38 | abrotman | okay .. then don't ask me .. |
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| 17:53.44 | abrotman | Archer: /msg dpkg netinst |
| 17:53.55 | abrotman | gimpscape__: use aptitude to install packages |
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| 17:54.11 | Gijs | :o |
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| 17:54.18 | abrotman | Gijs: if you don't want to try things people suggest, then why ask? |
| 17:54.32 | Gijs | i didn't try what? |
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| 17:54.44 | gimpscape__ | abrotman, I want to uninstall all packages pulled in by a metapackage |
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| 17:54.55 | abrotman | gimpscape__: yes .. aptitude remove <metapackage> |
| 17:55.07 | gimpscape__ | abrotman, it will remove only the metapackage |
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| 17:55.19 | abrotman | gimpscape__: how did you install it? |
| 17:55.39 | Gijs | abrotman, i didn't try what? |
| 17:55.44 | gimpscape__ | abrotman, sudo apt-get install language-support-fonts-ko |
| 17:55.46 | abrotman | Gijs: use the full path |
| 17:55.54 | abrotman | gimpscape__: yes .. you should have used aptitude to install it |
| 17:55.55 | Gijs | where ? |
| 17:55.58 | gimpscape__ | abrotman, and now all my apps are cluttered with a lot of useless korean font :/ |
| 17:56.02 | gimpscape__ | s/font/fonts |
| 17:56.07 | abrotman | gimpscape__: what is 'uname -a' ? |
| 17:56.17 | Gijs | so replace the * ? |
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| 17:56.25 | abrotman | Gijs: no .. use the full path to zip |
| 17:56.29 | abrotman | like /usr/bin/zip |
| 17:56.36 | gimpscape__ | abrotman, what my uname has to do with that? |
| 17:56.51 | abrotman | gimpscape__: you're using ubuntu, aren't you? |
| 17:56.58 | gimpscape__ | abrotman, yes, I do :P |
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| 17:57.05 | abrotman | gimpscape__: please go to #ubuntu for support |
| 17:57.06 | Gijs | huh i don't really get it |
| 17:57.14 | Gijs | where i need to use that path in my cmd? |
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| 17:57.29 | Archer | abrotman: thanks , and if you want say slim or gdm to start at boot is there a deamons arry ? or somthing to that affect ? |
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| 17:57.47 | abrotman | Archer: aptitude install gdm xorg .. it will start at boot |
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| 17:58.13 | Gijs | abrotman, where i need to use that path in my cmd? |
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| 17:58.23 | Archer | abrotman: wow thats strange ok thanks |
| 17:58.26 | abrotman | Gijs: how many times do you have the zip command in the script ? |
| 17:58.45 | Gijs | 1 time |
| 17:58.45 | Gijs | $cmd="cd $path; zip -r $backupdir$backupName *"; |
| 17:59.01 | abrotman | so try the full path to the zip command .. |
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| 18:00.45 | Gijs | abrotman, that doesn't works |
| 18:00.45 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | can anyone tell me where do i get the latest testing images? |
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| 18:00.51 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | the official site is empty |
| 18:00.51 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | :( |
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| 18:00.51 | abrotman | sh4d3sl4y3r_: no it's not |
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| 18:01.09 | abrotman | Gijs: maybe you should have your script echo commands |
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| 18:01.12 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 18:01.16 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | see for yourself |
| 18:01.19 | Gijs | i do ;) |
| 18:01.23 | abrotman | you're looking in the wrong place |
| 18:01.29 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | where do i check? |
| 18:01.35 | abrotman | Gijs: put the whole script in a pastebin, and the commands you use to run it |
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| 18:01.41 | abrotman | sh4d3sl4y3r_: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 18:02.14 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | alright thanks :) |
| 18:02.18 | Gijs | abrotman, it outputs this command: cd /home/test/; /usr/bin/zip -r /home/Backup/backup-19.rar * |
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| 18:02.32 | abrotman | Gijs: pastebin .. |
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| 18:03.24 | Gijs | abrotman, what i need to paste? |
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| 18:03.44 | abrotman | the whole script and the command you use to run it |
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| 18:04.38 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | abrotman: did they stop providing support for bigger images such as CD/DVD for testing builds ? |
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| 18:05.00 | abrotman | sh4d3sl4y3r_: i would hope so .. they're out of date twelve hours after creation |
| 18:05.12 | sh4d3sl4y3r_ | hmm |
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| 18:05.14 | abrotman | sh4d3sl4y3r_: maybe they'll come back later .. I haven't asked |
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| 18:06.25 | abrotman | Gijs: and how do you run that script ? |
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| 18:06.43 | Gijs | goto that page? |
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| 18:07.14 | abrotman | you're using a webpage to run ssh to create a backup of mysql ? |
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| 18:07.56 | Gijs | no not for sql |
| 18:07.58 | Gijs | for files |
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| 18:08.06 | erossi | \part |
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| 18:08.51 | abrotman | Gijs: try changing $path to something like $_backuppath |
| 18:08.57 | abrotman | erm .. $backuppath |
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| 18:10.44 | Gijs | uhhm it makes a file: ziy5BGeH and not the good backup name |
| 18:11.20 | abrotman | but it's making a file ? |
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| 18:11.46 | Gijs | yes nameD: ziy5BGeH |
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| 18:12.47 | abrotman | Gijs: try hardcoding the path/filename that you want it to be |
| 18:12.47 | markie- | How do i install firefox on debian? |
| 18:12.55 | abrotman | markie-: aptitude install iceweasel |
| 18:12.57 | Gijs | hardcoding? |
| 18:13.09 | abrotman | Gijs: instead of your variables |
| 18:13.29 | Tux^verdreifelt | there is no firefox on debian |
| 18:13.32 | abrotman | cd /tmp/foo/; /usr/bin/zip -r /tmp/foo/backup.zip * |
| 18:13.38 | markie- | abrotman: my flash plugin doesn't work |
| 18:13.43 | zleap | Tux^verdreifelt, its called iceweasel |
| 18:13.49 | abrotman | !tell markie- about adobe flash |
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| 18:14.39 | zleap | Tux^verdreifelt, something to do with the naming of firefox etc that goes against the free ness of debian, so they just called it something different |
| 18:14.48 | abrotman | !why iceweasel |
| 18:14.48 | dpkg | Due to Mozilla logos licensing, Mozilla software isn't DFSG-free, so Debian distributes Mozilla software with different logos. One day Mozilla Corporation decided to revoke the agreement to let Debian use Mozilla trademarks, so Debian changed to non-trademarked product names. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_in_Debian for more information. Ask me about <dfsg>. |
| 18:14.51 | ultralazer | the name firefox is trademarked |
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| 18:15.22 | Gijs | still don't works |
| 18:16.28 | abrotman | Gijs: but it's still creating a zip file ? |
| 18:16.37 | Gijs | no |
| 18:16.41 | Gijs | zibX4BqT |
| 18:16.55 | abrotman | run 'file zibX4BqT' |
| 18:17.11 | thims | after installing the latest nvidia modules for a geforce 8600 GT, on a fresh install of debian 5.0 I first generate xorg.conf with "X -configure" then "nvidia-xconfig -o /root/xorg.conf" when I do "X -config /root/xorg.conf" X starts fine no issues, but when I cp /root/xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and run "X" I get the following errors. http://pastebin.com/dd593ae4 |
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| 18:18.42 | abrotman | should be using startx .. if that matters |
| 18:19.11 | Gijs | zibX4BqT: empty |
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| 18:19.36 | thims | startx would just be another layer ontop of the error. once X starts fine using default /etc/X11/xorg.conf then I will use startx to initiate my WM. |
| 18:20.09 | Gijs | abrotman, it outputs: zibX4BqT: empty |
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| 18:20.50 | abrotman | Gijs: it seems like there's something wrong with the way that php is running that command since you can run it yourself and it works fine, right ? |
| 18:21.05 | Gijs | yes |
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| 18:23.35 | Necrosporus | Why there are no Release.gpg on install DVD? |
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| 18:24.39 | Necrosporus | It makes apt say I trying to install unverified packages every time |
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| 18:24.50 | abrotman | thims: are you sure when X logs that it's using hte nvidia driver ? |
| 18:25.00 | Necrosporus | Ubuntu includes Release.gpg |
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| 18:26.51 | markie- | abrotman: i installed flashplayer mozilla and it's still giving me problems in ice weasel |
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| 18:28.12 | thims | abrotman: it tries to but thats where the issue is, the config tells it to use the nvidia driver, and it does successfully when ran from /root/xorg.conf but fails to find the module when ran from /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 18:33.08 | abrotman | thims: i was asking what hte log says about using it |
| 18:33.20 | abrotman | markie-: installed from where? |
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| 18:34.05 | markie- | abrotman: debian multimedia |
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| 18:34.26 | markie- | abrotman: i also tried the backports one too, which didn't work either |
| 18:34.28 | abrotman | markie-: ls -l /etc/alternatives/flash-mozilla.so |
| 18:35.08 | Necrosporus | why don't use swfdec? |
| 18:35.13 | Necrosporus | Or Gnash |
| 18:35.55 | markie- | Necrosporus: they kinda don't work either |
| 18:36.39 | Necrosporus | It works, I tried gnash. However, I have now flashplayer installed at all |
| 18:36.42 | abrotman | markie-: where is that symlink pointing to ? |
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| 18:37.01 | thims | abrotman: the exact error "(EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)" |
| 18:37.17 | thims | nvidia module is loaded |
| 18:37.18 | abrotman | thims: when you run X -f /root/xorg.conf ? |
| 18:37.48 | markie- | abrotman: usr/lib/swfdec |
| 18:38.25 | abrotman | markie-: update-alternatives --config flash-mozilla.so |
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| 18:40.47 | thims | abrotman: same output, when its ran from /root/xorg.conf it works fine, but when its ran from /etc/X11/xorg.conf it fails |
| 18:40.51 | Sier | Hello, how can I install Flash on Debian Lenny (CPU: IA64) |
| 18:41.08 | Sier | flashplugin-nonfree is only available for amd64 and i386.. |
| 18:41.18 | markybob | flash doesnt work on IA64 |
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| 18:41.34 | abrotman | Sier: i doubt you have Itanium |
| 18:41.44 | Sier | ? |
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| 18:42.05 | Necrosporus | Sier, this is one of disadvantages of proprietary software |
| 18:42.15 | Sier | http://pastebin.com/d7dd701d6 abrotman |
| 18:42.39 | Necrosporus | It is non-free, so you can install it only to where adobe compiled it |
| 18:42.44 | abrotman | who gets itanium and doesn't understand that there's no flash for it |
| 18:42.49 | Necrosporus | nor IA64 |
| 18:42.49 | abrotman | !tell Sier about gnash |
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| 18:42.52 | abrotman | !tell Sier about swfdec |
| 18:42.54 | markybob | apparently sier :P |
| 18:43.17 | Sier | Well, let's just say when I got this server, I didn't even know what EFI Bootloader was. |
| 18:43.35 | markybob | why did you get an itanium? |
| 18:43.49 | Sier | I bought this server for $40 :) |
| 18:44.01 | Sier | 1U Server, 2x Itanium 2 Processors, 4Gb Ram.. |
| 18:44.02 | markybob | no comment |
| 18:44.12 | Necrosporus | Oh, $40 |
| 18:44.15 | tensorpudding | that sounds like a good deal |
| 18:44.16 | abrotman | well .. for $40 .. not a bad deal .. but it's not a desktop OS |
| 18:44.43 | Necrosporus | 4Gb ram for $40... |
| 18:44.53 | jpinx-eeepc | Necrosporus: exactly ;) |
| 18:44.55 | tensorpudding | yes, but it's an itanium machine |
| 18:45.14 | Necrosporus | I'd like such machine |
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| 18:45.18 | abrotman | anyways ... |
| 18:45.36 | Sier | Well, thanks.. I'm trying to run a software that "depends" on flash |
| 18:45.38 | Necrosporus | // But I'd prefer something RISC like ARM suppose |
| 18:46.14 | tensorpudding | for a desktop you kinda have to use x86 nowadays |
| 18:46.19 | abrotman | Sier: you'll have to use something like gnash or swfdec .. adobe doesn't create flash for itanium |
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| 18:46.26 | Necrosporus | Sier, try gnash or swfdec. Don't use non-free software without strong reason |
| 18:46.35 | markie- | abrotman: nothing to configure |
| 18:46.47 | Sier | that's fine, thanks a lot guys |
| 18:46.49 | tensorpudding | like gnash and swfdec not working? |
| 18:46.55 | abrotman | markie-: cd /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/ .. anything in there ? |
| 18:47.00 | abrotman | s/cd/ls/ |
| 18:47.05 | Necrosporus | tensorpudding, why x86? I have installed debian on ARM PDA, it runs smoothly |
| 18:47.17 | tensorpudding | i said "desktop" |
| 18:47.36 | Necrosporus | What wrong with desktop? |
| 18:47.47 | tensorpudding | an ARM PDA is not a desktop |
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| 18:48.31 | Necrosporus | tensorpudding, what's wrong with using ARM processor machine for an desktop? |
| 18:48.57 | Necrosporus | Especially ARM 2GHz dual core machine |
| 18:49.01 | tensorpudding | there is nothing anymore wrong with it for a desktop than using an itanium |
| 18:49.18 | markie- | abrotman: should i keep the default? |
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| 18:49.28 | abrotman | markie-: default? you said there was nothing to configure |
| 18:49.44 | tensorpudding | if the software you want to use works on it, use it |
| 18:49.59 | tensorpudding | if the software you want to use doesn't work on it, use something else |
| 18:49.59 | markie- | abrotman: yea, i accidently removed it, so then i installed it again, soz |
| 18:50.11 | Necrosporus | tensorpudding, what wrong with Itanium on desktop? |
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| 18:50.43 | markie- | abrotman: so should i keep the default, or select a number? |
| 18:50.56 | abrotman | markie-: do any of the options end in libflashplayer.so ? |
| 18:50.56 | tensorpudding | apparently it can't run adobe flash, which might be a problem for some people |
| 18:51.17 | markie- | abrotman: yea selection 2 |
| 18:51.24 | \amethyst | Necrosporus: price/performance ratio, but if you got it for $40 that's not applicable. Other than that, support from proprietary software, if that matters to you (what tensorpudding said) |
| 18:51.28 | abrotman | markie-: choose it |
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| 18:52.35 | markie- | abrotman: aww thanks, it works :) so what exactly was going on? |
| 18:52.36 | Necrosporus | \amethyst, I suppose, using proprietary software is wrong |
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| 18:53.20 | abrotman | markie-: the alternatives system allows multiple packages to provide something, but it controls which one is the default .. yours was defaulting to gnash or swfdec |
| 18:53.28 | abrotman | Necrosporus: that's irrelevant |
| 18:54.12 | markie- | abrotman: so am i currently using the non free one now? |
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| 18:54.17 | abrotman | markie-: yes |
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| 18:55.21 | abrotman | Necrosporus: if your needs require non-free software, then that's what it takes .. it still doesn't preclude the architecture from being suitable for your desktop .. but the non-free software should factor into your decision |
| 18:55.39 | esteel1 | valdyn | esteel: theres probably no official way as far as i know |
| 18:55.52 | abrotman | whether or not it is right/wrong is another topic entirely |
| 18:55.57 | esteel1 | valdyn: did you really mean me? i can't see this related to anything i said lately.. |
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| 18:57.36 | Breaking_Pitt | hello can someone tell me why my debian systems after a ntp update shows always one hour less of the real time¿ |
| 18:58.16 | abrotman | Breaking_Pitt: you have it set to the wrong timezone or set to use UTC |
| 18:58.44 | Breaking_Pitt | when i use date -u it always shows one hour less |
| 18:59.49 | abrotman | Breaking_Pitt: which timezone are you in? |
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| 19:00.03 | Breaking_Pitt | cet |
| 19:00.21 | abrotman | Breaking_Pitt: and what does /etc/timezone say ? |
| 19:01.02 | thims | abrotman: ended up fixing the issue by just installing the nvidia module's the debian way, but regardless thats one of the oddest issues I have ran into in quite some time. |
| 19:01.09 | thims | do you think it could be some sort of bug? |
| 19:01.17 | Breaking_Pitt | thanks abrotman i have found the error |
| 19:01.24 | Breaking_Pitt | in the /etc/timezone |
| 19:01.26 | Breaking_Pitt | thanks! |
| 19:01.39 | abrotman | thims: using the Debian way isn't going to be a bug in the Debian system i wouldn't htink |
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| 19:01.49 | markie- | abrotman: i did add the debian multimedia list to sources, is it ok to remove it now after installing flashplayer, or do i have to keep that list there? |
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| 19:02.16 | thims | I had the issue when building the module from source using the package direct from nvidia. the debian way is what worked correctly. |
| 19:02.22 | abrotman | markie-: up to you .. just remember to check periodically for flash updates i suppose .. i'd comment it out (instead of removing entirely) |
| 19:02.48 | markie- | abrotman: ah true, alright. thanks |
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| 19:07.19 | cheako | Hello, sudo users what -is- the Host_List part of the sudoers file used for? Is the sudoers file simply intended to be identical across hosts? |
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| 19:07.44 | aprendiz001 | hi all |
| 19:08.01 | cheako | Putting ALL workes for me, but using the hostname(in various forms) does not. |
| 19:08.05 | Breaking_Pitt | abrotman, i believe that i have fixed the error but it is still there |
| 19:08.30 | abrotman | Breaking_Pitt: grep UTC /etc/default/rcS .. what does it say ? |
| 19:08.42 | Breaking_Pitt | I'm still one hour behind :P |
| 19:08.47 | corpcomp | How can I find out how much disk pace all the files/folders in a folder contain. In windowz you would simply dir the folder with a couple of options. |
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| 19:09.11 | Breaking_Pitt | utc=yes |
| 19:09.18 | abrotman | corpcomp: du |
| 19:09.23 | abrotman | Breaking_Pitt: you probably want that to say no |
| 19:09.24 | corpcomp | ty |
| 19:09.50 | Breaking_Pitt | iI'm a little bit lost...in how many places can i found time/date options? |
| 19:10.01 | abrotman | Breaking_Pitt: lots and lots |
| 19:10.17 | Breaking_Pitt | and why? |
| 19:10.23 | aprendiz001 | I am using debian squeeze but when I want to open network an error says to me "Nautilus can't work with network sites" any idea? |
| 19:10.48 | Breaking_Pitt | i need to restart my system? |
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| 19:15.17 | Breaking_Pitt | abrotman, I'm stucked! |
| 19:16.21 | MarkGil | Hi, is there a way to make Postfix less verbose in it's logging. I run postfix on a flash based embedded device, and concerened about how much it logs (and writes to flash), it's also rather hard to weed out errors from the tonnes of information |
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| 19:16.58 | b_52light | hi |
| 19:17.15 | b_52light | off topic question , anybody know a cheap alternative to soekris ? |
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| 19:17.45 | abrotman | Breaking_Pitt: stucked ? |
| 19:17.47 | corpcomp | Has anyone here installed DTC and overcome the 2G mail limitation. Or better still can someone point me to a consol (like ISPconfig) that doesn't have such a limitation and uses dovecot instead of courier. This will be a web hosting server |
| 19:18.03 | Breaking_Pitt | again i'm one hou less |
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| 19:18.15 | abrotman | Breaking_Pitt: check /etc/timezone and ' |
| 19:18.26 | abrotman | Breaking_Pitt: check /etc/timezone and 'grep UTC /etc/default/rcS' |
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| 19:19.23 | Breaking_Pitt | Europe/Madrid and utc=no |
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| 19:19.59 | dvs | Breaking_Pitt: Set the BIOS clock to the right time |
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| 19:20.25 | Breaking_Pitt | i have set up a ntp client |
| 19:20.48 | Breaking_Pitt | i don't believe that it can be a BIOS problem |
| 19:21.05 | dvs | Breaking_Pitt: I don't think NTP can correct such a drastic time difference (or so I've been told) |
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| 19:21.29 | linuxguy | hi ive just installed Debian 5 gnome version.how do i install kde pls.and is it going to be 3.5.10 or 4.3.2/3 thanks |
| 19:21.29 | Breaking_Pitt | ok i'll take a look |
| 19:21.30 | Breaking_Pitt | dvs |
| 19:21.33 | Breaking_Pitt | see you |
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| 19:24.33 | Breaking_Pitt | dvs the Bios time is correct! |
| 19:25.29 | dvs | and the time in 'date' isn't? That's weird! |
| 19:25.52 | abrotman | the timezone and UTC were wrong before |
| 19:25.59 | abrotman | Breaking_Pitt: you can have ntp skew the time |
| 19:26.20 | Breaking_Pitt | soryr? |
| 19:26.28 | Breaking_Pitt | the time in the date is one hour less |
| 19:26.33 | Breaking_Pitt | when gnome starts |
| 19:26.33 | dvs | the time should be find now if 'UTC=NO' and the BIOS time is the correct local time. |
| 19:26.38 | Breaking_Pitt | the date is incorrect to |
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| 19:26.50 | simonrvn | too |
| 19:27.12 | Breaking_Pitt | that's the response from ntp |
| 19:27.17 | Breaking_Pitt | 15 Nov 19:25:01 ntpdate[3283]: adjust time server 158.227.98.15 offset 0.064527 sec |
| 19:29.33 | Breaking_Pitt | some advice? |
| 19:29.51 | cahoot | Breaking_Pitt: not dualbooting to windows? |
| 19:29.55 | abrotman | the date is wrong too ? |
| 19:29.59 | Breaking_Pitt | nope |
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| 19:30.04 | abrotman | <Breaking_Pitt> the date is incorrect to |
| 19:30.15 | Breaking_Pitt | no date is corerct |
| 19:30.17 | Breaking_Pitt | time is incorrect |
| 19:30.28 | abrotman | so just gnome is wrong ? |
| 19:31.16 | Breaking_Pitt | and terminal time too |
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| 19:31.35 | \amethyst | Breaking_Pitt: what does date --utc say right now? |
| 19:32.12 | Breaking_Pitt | dom nov 15 19:32:03 UTC 2009 |
| 19:32.21 | \amethyst | Breaking_Pitt: that time is correct |
| 19:32.28 | Jowi | hello. is there a testing netinst image to download? I cannot find any reference to it on debian.org - or can I chose testing if I use stable netinst image? |
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| 19:33.04 | Breaking_Pitt | where |
| 19:33.10 | Breaking_Pitt | is correct? |
| 19:33.12 | \amethyst | Breaking_Pitt: that is the current UTC time |
| 19:33.20 | \amethyst | Breaking_Pitt: 19:33 |
| 19:33.27 | Breaking_Pitt | but i have set no utc time |
| 19:33.43 | \amethyst | Breaking_Pitt: right, but date --utc shows the UTC time |
| 19:34.01 | \amethyst | Breaking_Pitt: and just date says 20:33 ? |
| 19:34.07 | abrotman | Breaking_Pitt: what does just 'date' say ? |
| 19:34.21 | Breaking_Pitt | dom nov 15 19:34:11 WET 2009 |
| 19:34.32 | \amethyst | Breaking_Pitt: so your time zone is wrong |
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| 19:34.45 | Breaking_Pitt | Europe/Madrid |
| 19:34.53 | \amethyst | Breaking_Pitt: I thought you said you were in CET |
| 19:35.04 | \amethyst | Breaking_Pitt: hm |
| 19:35.29 | linuxguy | hi ive just installed Debian 5 gnome version.how do i install kde pls.and is it going to be 3.5.10 or 4.3.2/3 thanks |
| 19:35.36 | \amethyst | Breaking_Pitt: hmm |
| 19:35.37 | Breaking_Pitt | ye i'm in CET |
| 19:36.13 | \amethyst | Breaking_Pitt: what version does dpkg -l tzdata say? |
| 19:36.32 | \amethyst | Breaking_Pitt: here TZ='Europe/Madrid' date uses CET |
| 19:36.33 | Breaking_Pitt | ii tzdata 2009l-0lenny1. time zone and daylight-saving time data |
| 19:36.34 | dvs | Madrid must have moved into another timezone! ;-) |
| 19:36.42 | tensorpudding | what is the optimal way to install debian sid on a virtual machine? |
| 19:36.45 | \amethyst | Breaking_Pitt: let me check my lenny system |
| 19:36.52 | Breaking_Pitt | ok |
| 19:37.11 | \amethyst | Breaking_Pitt: nope, on my lenny machine it also does CET |
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| 19:37.54 | dvs | unless you have TZ set somewhere in your user's profile. |
| 19:38.08 | \amethyst | Breaking_Pitt: does echo $TZ say anything? |
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| 19:38.16 | Breaking_Pitt | one moment |
| 19:38.36 | Breaking_Pitt | nope |
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| 19:39.11 | Breaking_Pitt | echo $TZ don't say anityhing |
| 19:39.15 | \amethyst | Breaking_Pitt: what does md5sum /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Madrid say? |
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| 19:39.32 | puff | Smebody was telling me, last night, about a tool to figure out your file usage by package, called something like "apt pig", but I: can't find anything appropriate when searching with apt or google. |
| 19:39.36 | \amethyst | Breaking_Pitt: 9adedd59... ? |
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| 19:40.07 | Breaking_Pitt | yes! |
| 19:40.25 | Jowi | never mind. I found debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso but boy was it well hidden. |
| 19:40.36 | \amethyst | Breaking_Pitt: so your zone file for Madrid is the same as the one on my Lenny machine that uses CET for Europe/Madrid |
| 19:40.42 | \amethyst | Breaking_Pitt: something must be overriding it |
| 19:40.44 | dvs | Jowi: http://www.debian.org/devel ? |
| 19:41.15 | Breaking_Pitt | I have a error message when gnome start |
| 19:41.26 | Breaking_Pitt | something about xsession incorrect number of values |
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| 19:41.36 | Breaking_Pitt | i don't know what cause this |
| 19:41.46 | Breaking_Pitt | maybe can have relation |
| 19:41.53 | Breaking_Pitt | i don't know |
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| 19:42.37 | \amethyst | objorn: "$1" is the first argument, and the -- is there to be the shell's $0 |
| 19:42.39 | \amethyst | doh |
| 19:42.49 | \amethyst | objorn: sorry, wrong channel, wrong nick-complete |
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| 19:43.51 | Breaking_Pitt | is there any place to see the xsession error, a log file? |
| 19:43.56 | Breaking_Pitt | or something= |
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| 19:44.14 | Jowi | dvs, yeah. I thought devel was for unstable as the docs suggested so that confused me. |
| 19:45.07 | simonrvn | Breaking_Pitt: ~/.xsession-errors |
| 19:46.06 | Breaking_Pitt | I'm getting this : Xsession: unsupported number of arguments (2); falling back to default session. |
| 19:46.26 | Breaking_Pitt | SESSION_MANAGER=local/Mcclain:/tmp/.ICE-unix/2991 |
| 19:46.30 | Jowi | (I'm a bit sick of Ubuntu's release cycles so I thought to test the rolling release for a change) |
| 19:46.43 | aprendiz001 | I can't access to samba network, an error advice "Nautilus can't use network places" |
| 19:46.50 | aprendiz001 | any idea how can I solve? |
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| 19:48.12 | Breaking_Pitt | WARNING **: Failed to open file '/etc/gnome/config/General.ad' |
| 19:48.32 | Breaking_Pitt | someone knows what is the function of this file? |
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| 19:51.57 | valio | can you tell me when I run ./program<input |
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| 19:52.04 | valio | how do you call this < |
| 19:52.09 | valio | pipe in ? |
| 19:52.10 | valio | :) |
| 19:52.21 | dvs | input redirection |
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| 19:58.51 | linuxguy | hi ive just installed Debian 5 gnome version.how do i install kde pls.and is it going to be 3.5.10 or 4.3.2/3 thanks |
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| 20:00.23 | cahoot | linuxguy: try /msg dpkg install kde |
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| 20:00.41 | linuxguy | cahoot: thanks |
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| 20:04.33 | kharloss | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:05.49 | \amethyst | kharloss: then you need two IP addresses |
| 20:06.15 | \amethyst | kharloss: you can only have one program listening the the same IP/port combination |
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| 20:06.42 | [Elvis] | hej guys, I have a question...during rsync...the files changed usersS? |
| 20:06.47 | [Elvis] | how the hell is this possible? |
| 20:06.49 | \amethyst | kharloss: Apache can do it because the client sends the hostname as part of the request; but I doubt counterstrike can do that kind of multiplexing |
| 20:06.59 | abrotman | [Elvis]: you didn't tell it to preserve the user ? |
| 20:07.10 | valdyn | [Elvis]: thats the default |
| 20:07.40 | [Elvis] | I did -avz |
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| 20:07.55 | \amethyst | kharloss: especially since it's UDP---that means there's no real connection, and the client would have to send the server name on each packet, which would probably increase packet size unacceptibly |
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| 20:08.15 | valdyn | [Elvis]: guess it wasnt possible to preserve the owner |
| 20:08.20 | \amethyst | s/since/if/ |
| 20:08.28 | [Elvis] | abrotman...it didn't change to the user I rsynced with...it changed from user 04060901 to 10001 |
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| 20:08.42 | valdyn | [Elvis]: usually that needs root |
| 20:08.45 | [Elvis] | while I rsynced with root |
| 20:09.01 | valdyn | [Elvis]: also depends on the destination |
| 20:09.16 | [Elvis] | hmm |
| 20:09.28 | valdyn | [Elvis]: vfat has no concept of "owner" |
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| 20:10.49 | skynix_ | hi |
| 20:10.53 | [Elvis] | hmm valdyn... |
| 20:10.55 | [Elvis] | very weird this |
| 20:11.02 | skynix_ | what´s that ? >> [21:10:11] <Sevim^`> http://www.videoturk.tr.gs Free Porno Videos |
| 20:11.13 | sauvin | vfat has no concept, period. |
| 20:11.14 | valdyn | skynix_: thats spam |
| 20:11.18 | skynix_ | please kick or bann him |
| 20:11.24 | skynix_ | valdyn: ok |
| 20:11.29 | valdyn | skynix_: please dont repeat spam |
| 20:11.48 | skynix_ | valdyn: i dont... thx |
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| 20:12.58 | skynix_ | valdyn: it´s the first spam were i become from irc-freenode channel´s. i´ll ask were he is... sorry |
| 20:12.59 | valdyn | skynix_: /msg dpkg ops Sevim^` onjoin spam |
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| 20:13.15 | skynix_ | valdyn: oh nice. thanks. i do it |
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| 20:14.42 | kzar | free -m shows 158 megabytes of memory being used but psaux only shows about 30megs being used, how can I figure out what's using it all? |
| 20:14.52 | valdyn | !free ram |
| 20:14.52 | dpkg | Unlike information, your computer's memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux tries to use free physical memory for caching files from disk which speeds up disk access considerably. Linux releases RAM from these caches if programs need it. If you want to know how much physical memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use, it's 'free' + 'buffers' + 'cache'. Also ask me about <swapwake>. |
| 20:14.55 | kzar | (top gives similar results to ps aux) |
| 20:15.17 | ge0rge | please help! I have installed debian lenny and all was ok until i think that will be a good idea to upgrade to open office 3.I have removed alla the openoffice packets from synaptic and the running this command:"aptitude install -t lenny-backports openoffice.org" After that nearly all the programms were unistalled and now i can not even login to graphic mode! |
| 20:15.46 | valdyn | ge0rge: you had gnome? |
| 20:15.51 | ge0rge | yeah |
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| 20:16.02 | valdyn | ge0rge: aptitude install gdm gnome xorg |
| 20:16.12 | azm | how can Iturn of the error: Cannot eject volume ? |
| 20:16.13 | ge0rge | ok i will try it and tell you |
| 20:16.14 | ge0rge | thanks |
| 20:16.26 | azm | I uninstalled gnome mount manager |
| 20:16.41 | valdyn | azm: unmount the volume first |
| 20:16.46 | azm | but it still pop up |
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| 20:16.49 | azm | randomly |
| 20:17.33 | azm | valdyn, the problem is I havent mountewd anything there |
| 20:17.38 | fredl | hi. http://pastebin.ca/1672508 How do I make sure the Monitor section for my Tatung V42 gets used for the HDMI-0 output? |
| 20:18.21 | valdyn | fredl: you already have Monitor  "Tatung V42" in your screen section |
| 20:18.42 | kzar | valdyn: So total: 240, used: 158, free: 81, shared: 0, buffers: 14, cached: 84. I thought I had 81 megs left but really I have 179? |
| 20:18.46 | fredl | valdyn - correct. But look at the bottom of that pastebin. |
| 20:19.19 | fredl | valdyn - specifically where it says 'Output HDMI-0 has no monitor section' |
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| 20:21.14 | valdyn | fredl: man xorg.conf, "With RandR 1.2-enabled drivers, monitor sections may be tied to specific outputs ...." |
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| 20:22.06 | fredl | hmm, cool, thanks. |
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| 20:24.06 | smacnay | When gnome file manager logs into a network samba share, is there some physical address on my computer that I can utilize with a command line tool like rdiff-backup? |
| 20:24.07 | linuxguy | cahoot: thanks those instructions worked great :) |
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| 20:25.48 | azm | is there op ? |
| 20:27.17 | abrotman | azm: why? |
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| 20:27.29 | azm | abrotman, spammer |
| 20:27.38 | azm | just got klined |
| 20:27.44 | azm | so its fine |
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| 20:31.20 | pflanze | [Elvis]: your client and server don't have the same users |
| 20:31.24 | linuxguy | Does anyone know how and where do i put modelines in the xorg.conf file so i can get a decent screen resolution please? |
| 20:31.45 | valdyn | linuxguy: xrandr does not do it? |
| 20:32.21 | pflanze | [Elvis]: also know that users are represented by a number underneath, the string is only decoration; see man rsync for the --numeric-ids option to avoid going through the decoration. |
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| 20:32.43 | linuxguy | valdyn: ok do i just type in xrandr as root then? |
| 20:32.57 | valdyn | linuxguy: as the X user |
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| 20:33.32 | pflanze | [Elvis]: then again you said something about "system users" that didn't make much sense to me, so maybe you're really confusing unix system users with some other kind of unrelated user system. |
| 20:33.35 | ge0rge007 | ok you were right i have installed gnome etc and all are ok again (ge0rge here) |
| 20:33.40 | ge0rge007 | why this happened? |
| 20:35.31 | linuxguy | valdyn: as teh x user? |
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| 20:37.50 | linuxguy | valdyn: basically what i want to see in my xorg.conf file is somethig like this Mode= "1280x1024" etc |
| 20:38.25 | valdyn | linuxguy: so does xrandr do it or not? |
| 20:39.20 | valdyn | linuxguy: open a terminal , type xrandr, dont change user |
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| 20:39.59 | [Elvis] | pflanze not really |
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| 20:40.02 | [Elvis] | I use proftpd - mysq;l |
| 20:40.05 | [Elvis] | with virtual users |
| 20:40.09 | rgr | ok, just restarted my laptop and its reverted back to the wrong time : 2 hours ahead of the real. I had prefiously run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" and set it to europe/berlin and also installed ntp and used the clock applet to tell the time to sync with internet servers. But after the reboot its back to the wrong time. What else needs to be done? |
| 20:40.11 | [Elvis] | and i wanted to copy their files to another system |
| 20:40.24 | rgr | (lenny) |
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| 20:40.36 | valdyn | linuxguy: pretty useless to start with the ModeLine when you dont even know if its needed or useful. I trying to make you start at the right end |
| 20:41.44 | pflanze | [Elvis]: "not really"? So you really definitely are dealing with two different user systems, ok? Maybe you want to say that this other user system doesn't matter here? Why do you think it doesn't? |
| 20:42.42 | rgr | Do I really need to edit the .profile to make this timezone permanent?? |
| 20:42.52 | valdyn | rgr: no |
| 20:42.54 | valdyn | !timezone |
| 20:42.54 | dpkg | it has been said that timezone is the standard time (aka local time) in a particular region. To change the timezone on Debian systems, execute "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" (Lenny, Squeeze) or "tzconfig" (Etch, Sarge). Alternatively: "cp -b /usr/share/zoneinfo/$TZ /etc/localtime". Note that tzselect(1) does not change the timezone. |
| 20:43.14 | pflanze | [Elvis]: do you want to copy the ftp user database, or also the files of the ftp users? |
| 20:43.14 | rgr | http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/213 says to do so. |
| 20:43.39 | valdyn | rgr: dpkg is telling you the right thing, im reluctant to debug some random howto |
| 20:43.47 | rgr | I did the reconfigure and it doesnt work. After a reboot time is wrong again BUT the reconfigure says the TZ is already euroope/berlin. |
| 20:43.59 | cheako | I just fixed my sudoers... turns out '--' does -not- indicate the regex equivalent of /$/ and instead indicates a literal '--'. Thankfully there is an implied /$/, nerest I can tell... I pray this is secure, I know not of this. |
| 20:44.12 | rgr | debian-admin site is not official? Sorry. I didnt know that. |
| 20:44.15 | pobega | rgr: that article was written in 2005 |
| 20:44.15 | valdyn | rgr: fixing the timezone does not fix the time |
| 20:44.26 | valdyn | !set the time |
| 20:44.26 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install <ntp> to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. You may also need to run dpkg-reconfigure tzdata (lenny and later) or tzconfig (etch and earlier) to set the time zone, and verify the UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS prior. |
| 20:44.30 | valdyn | rgr: ^^ |
| 20:44.35 | pobega | But yes, go with ntp |
| 20:44.50 | pobega | It's way easier to keep a synced time with ntpd |
| 20:46.03 | rgr | I did this. And after a reboot its back again to being wrong. The date & time applet doesnt seem to want to remember the TZ either. brand new lenny install. I'll ru nthrough it all again, but its kind of baffling me. |
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| 20:47.38 | pflanze | rgr: sounds like the clock battery of your machine is dead |
| 20:47.55 | pflanze | rgr: or do you way this is without unplugging from power? |
| 20:48.16 | rgr | why? The time is exactly two hours wrong indiating that the timezone is not breing properly reporcessed at boot. I'm just checking it all now. |
| 20:48.38 | abrotman | rgr: look at /etc/timezone and grep UTC /etc/default/rcS |
| 20:48.39 | valdyn | rgr: are you booting windows in between? |
| 20:48.57 | rgr | no. just lenny. new install. thinkpad. |
| 20:49.02 | pflanze | rgr: date -s doesn't set the hardware clock by default; (I'm not finding the flag for it right now tho) |
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| 20:49.27 | rgr | I used the gnome date applet. Am doing command line now. |
| 20:49.27 | valdyn | pflanze: no, but rebooting does |
| 20:49.57 | pflanze | rgr: "hwclock --systohc" |
| 20:50.22 | rgr | abrotman: UTC:yes |
| 20:50.47 | rgr | TZ in /etc/timezone is Europe/Berlin |
| 20:50.53 | abrotman | UTC should be no |
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| 20:51.08 | valdyn | it doesnt really matter what UTC is |
| 20:51.13 | rgr | will change it. I certainly never selected that afaik. |
| 20:51.24 | valdyn | rgr: you did, when you installed debian |
| 20:51.44 | abrotman | rgr: when you install, it asks you if the system will be set to UTC .. you apparently said yes |
| 20:51.46 | rgr | well, you 're probably right but not knowingly :-; Thanks for the help. |
| 20:52.12 | abrotman | you didn't knowingly hit enter? |
| 20:52.52 | prince_jammys | rememberingly |
| 20:53.07 | rgr | What I meant is I never selcted UTC before on other installs so must have been day dreaming at the time :-; Cheers. |
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| 21:05.20 | ge0rge007 | can anyone tell me the difference between this http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6818/screenshotdefaultuser.png and this http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7013/screenshotdefaultuserfi.png ? |
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| 21:07.21 | valdyn | ge0rge007: run "nautilus-file-management-properties" |
| 21:07.34 | ge0rge007 | ok |
| 21:08.18 | valdyn | ge0rge007: at "Behaviour" select "Always open in browser windows" |
| 21:08.27 | ge0rge007 | i have gone there and change it.I am just wondering whats the difference... |
| 21:08.41 | ge0rge007 | its only another look? |
| 21:08.41 | valdyn | ge0rge007: the difference is your 2 screenshots |
| 21:08.47 | ge0rge007 | haha |
| 21:08.52 | ge0rge007 | yeah thats right:P |
| 21:09.01 | valdyn | ge0rge007: an.. |
| 21:09.25 | valdyn | ge0rge007: and in the first version opening a folder will open a new window |
| 21:09.42 | ge0rge007 | yes |
| 21:09.45 | ge0rge007 | ok thanks:) |
| 21:10.05 | ge0rge007 | i will surely choose the second look |
| 21:10.35 | ge0rge007 | it is so annoying to open new windows for new folders |
| 21:10.54 | FredWP | You can change that. |
| 21:11.13 | ge0rge007 | i know i have just changed it:) |
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| 21:25.16 | pobega | Before I *make* this program let me make sure it doesn't exist...is there a program to explore tarballs before extracting them? |
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| 21:26.03 | aaron___ | hey how do i download the libgl.so.1 libraries? |
| 21:26.10 | aaron___ | anyone know? what's the package name |
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| 21:27.17 | kevke | Hi ppl, I have an unusual request. Has anyone tried to install more than one control panel? I want to install syscp and ispcp. is that possible? |
| 21:27.41 | markybob | !tell aaron___ about search |
| 21:28.00 | ultralazer | tell me about search too. |
| 21:28.00 | valdyn | kevke: is that a debian question? |
| 21:28.20 | valdyn | pobega: file-roller |
| 21:28.36 | valdyn | pobega: and most file managers i guess |
| 21:28.37 | kevke | yes it is |
| 21:28.50 | valdyn | judd: versions syscp |
| 21:28.50 | judd | valdyn: syscp -- sid: 1.4.2.1-1 |
| 21:29.01 | kevke | sorry I have to be more specific. I have a lenny running on my webserver |
| 21:29.02 | valdyn | judd: versions ispcp |
| 21:29.03 | judd | valdyn: ispcp -- |
| 21:29.12 | DeSian | with this line can use switching between us,and ar keyboard # setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll us,ar# and now i want use variant keyboard under ar for example ku_ara for kurdish, can you tell how can use it for variant because so #setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll us,iq ku_ara# doesn\t work |
| 21:29.16 | valdyn | kevke: apt-get takes care of conflicts automagically |
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| 21:30.19 | valdyn | DeSian: whats wrong with your desktop environments clicky tool? |
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| 21:30.59 | DeSian | valdyn, i use LXDE and the switcher doesnt work sfor variant keyboard |
| 21:31.17 | kevke | is that aptitude? |
| 21:31.20 | pobega | valdyn: are there any on the command line? I'm in the midst of building 'tarcd', which let's you "cd" into the tarball and look around |
| 21:31.27 | pobega | and run commands (like extracting just a single file, or something) |
| 21:32.45 | valdyn | !tarfs |
| 21:33.20 | valdyn | pobega: i think theres a fuse based tarfs |
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| 21:34.26 | linuxguy | valdyn: sorry for the delay but i did type in xrandr in terminal as root.and erm nothing has changed |
| 21:34.30 | jimcooncat | There's an openerp package in squeeze, but apparently not in lenny-backports. How do I make a request? Or do you have something similar to prevu? |
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| 21:34.47 | valdyn | linuxguy: it lists available modes, it doesnt change a thing |
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| 21:35.34 | DeSian | can i add keyboard switching section in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi or not_ |
| 21:35.41 | abrotman | jimcooncat: you could create it yourself |
| 21:35.47 | valdyn | linuxguy: if you find that your mode is not there the next step is to read /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if your mode is available but not used for some reason or if your mode is not available |
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| 21:36.50 | linuxguy | valdyn: yes it shows modes, tells me my card and monitor can go to certain resolutions, but when i look at my xorg.conf file it just says configuted monitor, configured graphics etc etc, i have had my card and monitor work at 1280x1024 which is what i need |
| 21:36.55 | jimcooncat | abrotman: please point me to some guidance? |
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| 21:37.22 | valdyn | linuxguy: so IS your mode listed ? |
| 21:37.47 | markybob | !tell jimcooncat about ssb |
| 21:37.48 | abrotman | !tell jimcooncat about ssb |
| 21:37.49 | jimcooncat | abrotman: I like all my software to be available from a repository, and I keep a local one |
| 21:38.17 | jimcooncat | abrotman: thanks, that's great |
| 21:40.07 | pobega | valdyn: So I guess then my program doesn't exist. It decompressed into a buffer and allows you to explore that buffer |
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| 21:42.37 | valdyn | pobega: thats your implementation |
| 21:42.45 | valdyn | pobega: theres a few fuse based solutions |
| 21:42.52 | valdyn | pobega: which basically do the same |
| 21:43.13 | valdyn | pobega: but they need fuse |
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| 21:48.19 | cheako | http://www.ops.ietf.org/lists/namedroppers/namedroppers.2001/msg01138.html |
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| 21:50.22 | cheako | Ahh my problem is in: /etc/nsswitch.conf |
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| 21:52.24 | pobega | valdyn: Yeah, I know, but fuse isn't on every system and I want something that will work cross-os with any permissions (assuming that the libs are installed) |
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| 21:53.11 | pobega | I think it's moreso that I want something to build in perl; Im getting tired of doing work related scripts |
| 21:53.22 | linuxguy | valdyn: no its not listed.btw Debian is the only distro that does not list the 1280x1024 resolution xrandr tells me max resolution is also 1280x1200 so surely I can get a 1280x1024 resolution.also I have had the resolution i want before using the same card but I cant think how i got there |
| 21:53.25 | devin | anyone using squeeze that uses nvidia? |
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| 21:54.02 | slope | devin: just ask what it is that you want to know instead. if someone knows you'll get the answer. |
| 21:55.13 | dashaebig | Hi, I'm having troubles with a software RAID0 (mdadm)... it's keeps on crashing randomly.. .everything goes well, then when i try to create a new file/folder it just crashes and kernel log tells me this: http://pastebin.com/m597f31d7 ; interestingly enough the data is not lost, i just need to unmount and then remount the RAID partition, but its quite annoying nonetheless |
| 21:55.18 | dashaebig | any ideas? |
| 21:55.31 | abrotman | !nvidia squeeze |
| 21:55.31 | dpkg | non-free nvidia+squeeze guide: (a) aptitude upgrade ; aptitude full-upgrade (ensure you are running the current kernel; /msg judd kernels) (b) create a testing/unstable mix (ask me about <tum>) (c) aptitude install module-assistant; aptitude -R -t sid install nvidia-kernel-source; m-a prepare; m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get -t sid install nvidia-glx. (d) Configure xorg.conf as per http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers. |
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| 21:57.05 | devin | !tum |
| 21:57.05 | dpkg | echo 'APT::Default-Release "testing";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf, edit sources.list, copy your non-security testing lines and change one set to sid. then apt-get update. use apt-get -t sid install foo; to install foo from sid rather than testing as usual. WARNING to SYNAPTIC users: Synaptic ignores Default-Release. set Preferences->Distribution |
| 21:57.56 | dashaebig | are there any known issues with mdadm on lenny amd64? |
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| 21:58.35 | valdyn | !bts |
| 21:58.35 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
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| 21:59.16 | bbelt16ag | hey peeps why is it i cant get to yim on any linux app? |
| 21:59.32 | abrotman | with lenny ? |
| 21:59.33 | bbelt16ag | and if there is a fix. why hasnt it been ported to stable lenny? |
| 21:59.36 | bbelt16ag | yes |
| 21:59.52 | abrotman | because yahoo changed something *again* ... try the pidgin in backports.org |
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| 22:00.09 | bbelt16ag | i have to use another repo to get a working app? |
| 22:00.17 | abrotman | yell at yahoo |
| 22:00.25 | bbelt16ag | isnt stable suppose to be stable? |
| 22:00.31 | markybob | cries for bbelt16ag |
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| 22:00.59 | cheako | bbelt16ag: That's correct, if there are problems in stable the apps are AFAIK removed not repaired. |
| 22:01.03 | abrotman | bbelt16ag: i think you're misunderstanding .. *yahoo* changed something on their end .. |
| 22:01.06 | markybob | bbelt16ag, yahoo changed. get it? yahoo. |
| 22:01.08 | bbelt16ag | ok |
| 22:01.26 | bbelt16ag | but the latest versions are fixed in etch though right? |
| 22:01.33 | bbelt16ag | so i should just upgrade to etch? |
| 22:01.33 | abrotman | in etch? |
| 22:01.35 | markybob | jesus |
| 22:01.44 | abrotman | bbelt16ag: etch is oldstable |
| 22:01.45 | bbelt16ag | or what ever testing is called. |
| 22:01.50 | cheako | lol, I remember etch. |
| 22:01.53 | djkm | abrotman: could you explain that whats wrong? http://pastebin.com/d4b253e65 |
| 22:01.56 | bbelt16ag | sorry i get the names confused |
| 22:01.58 | abrotman | bbelt16ag: NFC .. you'd have to check the BTS |
| 22:02.06 | bbelt16ag | BTS? |
| 22:02.11 | slope | bbelt16ag: you *should* use an open protocol like jabber to avoid problems like these |
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| 22:02.26 | abrotman | djkm: why the hell are you using sarge ? |
| 22:02.28 | bbelt16ag | if i can get my friends to switch i would |
| 22:02.43 | abrotman | bbelt16ag: google talk is XMPP |
| 22:02.48 | abrotman | xmpp/jabber |
| 22:02.50 | bbelt16ag | thanks for the info was just trying to understand |
| 22:02.59 | blindvt | hi.. Is there a #d-i somewhere? Resp. Where's the official debian-installer SCM repo? |
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| 22:03.14 | jelly-home | blindvt: #debian-boot on irc.debian.org (irc.oftc.net) |
| 22:03.18 | slope | bbelt16ag: have you tried? I've gotten several friends to switch |
| 22:03.29 | blindvt | jelly-home, thanks! |
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| 22:03.43 | markybob | i dont understand why people use IM |
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| 22:03.50 | markybob | i guess i'm too old |
| 22:03.54 | djkm | abrotman: whats wrong with sarge sir? |
| 22:04.01 | abrotman | markybob: i can't get my parents on IRC |
| 22:04.09 | abrotman | djkm: uhm .. it hasn't had support in like a year ? |
| 22:04.14 | jelly-home | djkm: it's old, available only via archive.debian.org |
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| 22:04.52 | djkm | abrotman: hmm ok |
| 22:05.14 | djkm | abrotman: what do you suggest me to fix that now? |
| 22:05.48 | abrotman | djkm: i'd suggest you stop using sarge .. why are you using sarge? |
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| 22:06.27 | djkm | abrotman: There is no reason. it has been ok for me :) |
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| 22:06.36 | jelly-home | djkm: if it's not a production machine, you could update it. Bring the sarge machine to latest sarge from archive.d.o; after that, /msg dpkg sarge->etch, and then /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
| 22:06.41 | abrotman | !tell djkm about sarge-> |
| 22:06.43 | abrotman | !tell djkm about sarge->etch |
| 22:06.46 | abrotman | !tell djkm about etch->lenny |
| 22:08.23 | pickcoder | djkm: you don't get security updates on Sarge |
| 22:08.39 | bbelt16ag | !backports |
| 22:08.39 | dpkg | [backport] a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.org/. Ask me about <backports.org> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 22:09.05 | djkm | ok guys thanks all i'm reading these right now... |
| 22:09.08 | abrotman | bbelt16ag: /msg dpkg backports |
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| 22:09.39 | abrotman | jeez .. it's been over 18 months since sarge had security updates |
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| 22:09.50 | bbelt16ag | sorry |
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| 22:10.10 | bbelt16ag | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.13 | bbelt16ag | confused. |
| 22:10.24 | bbelt16ag | i need to backport stuff to lenny, not sarge. |
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| 22:11.38 | jelly-home | bbelt16ag: um... there's no mention of sarge in /msg dpkg backports? |
| 22:12.06 | bbelt16ag | http://backports.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt |
| 22:12.11 | bbelt16ag | it says sarge |
| 22:12.57 | abrotman | bbelt16ag: yes .. |
| 22:13.10 | abrotman | bbelt16ag: but i thnik you're reading wrong instructions |
| 22:13.21 | abrotman | http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions |
| 22:13.23 | bbelt16ag | i think so, |
| 22:13.36 | devin | abrotman , tired following the nvida driver howto getting this error: http://pastebin.com/m2a0e7f60 How do clear module-assistant clean nvidia ? |
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| 22:14.02 | abrotman | it tells you what command to type |
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| 22:14.43 | devin | didnt know it was a command sorry |
| 22:14.48 | devin | lol |
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| 22:16.03 | bbelt16ag | hmm |
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| 22:18.17 | bbelt16ag | nope no workie |
| 22:18.25 | bbelt16ag | still got same version of pidgin and kopete |
| 22:18.38 | bbelt16ag | i uninstalled them did an update and reinstalled... |
| 22:19.01 | abrotman | bbelt16ag: you probably did it wrong ... |
| 22:19.08 | markybob | bbelt16ag, http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=pidgin lenny-backports does not have the same version as lenny |
| 22:19.16 | markybob | yeah, what he said :P |
| 22:19.55 | bbelt16ag | smack me in the head i swear |
| 22:20.02 | bbelt16ag | special way to install. |
| 22:20.09 | abrotman | that's why it has instructions |
| 22:20.20 | bbelt16ag | should i uninstall old version? |
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| 22:21.10 | abrotman | you don't have to |
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| 22:21.20 | bookmark | hiya |
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| 22:21.56 | bookmark | is there some way to make grub find my vista again, it loaded a little while ago before i deleted some other partitions |
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| 22:23.45 | bookmark | now it can't find it |
| 22:23.55 | bookmark | i have it on another mini sata drive entirely |
| 22:23.58 | bookmark | hmm |
| 22:26.06 | Sergio` | Is there a VM that runs from TTY? |
| 22:26.29 | bbelt16ag | thanks for the help peeps |
| 22:26.30 | markybob | you can run virtualbox headless |
| 22:26.47 | Sergio` | I'll try. |
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| 22:27.33 | konr | Guys, apparently my video card is not correctly installed. I've run fglrxinfo and got an error that starts with "Major opcode of failed request: 135 (GLX)". Also, fglrx-driver is installed. What is going wrong? |
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| 22:27.50 | kmq | Sergio`: qemu also does that |
| 22:28.27 | markybob | i hope you mean kvm :P qemu is awful |
| 22:28.48 | markybob | (yes, i know kvm uses qemu code) |
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| 22:29.18 | bookmark | hia |
| 22:29.23 | bookmark | hiya |
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| 22:30.09 | bookmark | does anyone know how to make grub detect OSs again? |
| 22:31.15 | abrotman | grub or grub2 ? |
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| 22:32.46 | jelly-home | if (grub2) {install os-prober; rerun update-grub} |
| 22:33.28 | abrotman | how about it! |
| 22:33.30 | abrotman | amen@ |
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| 22:34.00 | jelly-home | Preach on brother! |
| 22:34.34 | abrotman | if (!grub2) {install grub2} :) |
| 22:34.47 | abrotman | he didn't care |
| 22:35.17 | markybob | ungrateful bastards |
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| 22:36.00 | pablo | hi, display managers in debian run from inittab or as daemons from /etc/init.d ? |
| 22:36.14 | abrotman | pablo: they have init scripts .. |
| 22:37.23 | pablo | abrotman: mm what does that mean? they run from init.d? |
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| 22:38.23 | abrotman | like /etc/rc2.d/S99gdm |
| 22:40.03 | jelly-home | pablo: yes |
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| 22:55.55 | devin | abrotman. after install the nvidia drivers i no longer have borders on windows |
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| 22:57.14 | abrotman | were you using compiz ? |
| 22:57.33 | devin | no, compiz is not installed |
| 22:57.46 | franki^ | have you tried a magical restart? |
| 22:57.48 | abrotman | using gnome? kde? |
| 22:57.48 | franki^ | hides |
| 22:57.49 | franki^ | :| |
| 22:57.55 | devin | gnome |
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| 22:58.11 | abrotman | devin: start your window manager |
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| 23:01.20 | boooze | hi all. What's an "Bus errorackage lists... 0%" error while launching apt-get? |
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| 23:01.31 | devin | abrotman, I tried restarting X it still logs in to borderless windows |
| 23:01.41 | NahuelM | i'm compiling a debian kernel (linux-source-2.6.26) with the default debian config, done make bzImage && make modules && make modules_ install && make install how can I generate the initrd image? |
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| 23:02.08 | abrotman | devin: start your window manager ... |
| 23:02.21 | abrotman | !tell NahuelM about kp mantra |
| 23:04.13 | n0mad | hi - any expirienced with ghex2 |
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| 23:06.54 | jelly-home | bus error is an unusual error to get on i386 or amd64, boooze |
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| 23:07.59 | jelly-home | boooze: which architecture is this installation? Is apt-get the only binary doing that? Which debian release? |
| 23:08.15 | kermit | boooze: are you out of disk space? |
| 23:08.32 | boooze | well it is an ubuntu-server running on virtualbox |
| 23:08.49 | boooze | auto-expanding machine...never encountered this problem |
| 23:08.57 | jelly-home | you'll want to ask in #ubuntu, boooze |
| 23:09.15 | boooze | well..thought it was apt-get related |
| 23:09.24 | markybob | doesnt matter |
| 23:09.38 | jelly-home | oh, this isn't a channel for apt. I don't know if there is one |
| 23:10.00 | boooze | well...maybe someone encountered the same problem |
| 23:10.13 | markybob | still doesnt matter. still off topic |
| 23:10.43 | boooze | well man...you know how to waste your time |
| 23:10.46 | boooze | bye bye |
| 23:10.49 | jelly-home | they would join you on #ubuntu if they wished to help further. Also try #vbox |
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| 23:14.04 | NahuelM | I add dns servers to resolv.conf and when I restart they get wiped, what could be the couse? the dhclient? |
| 23:14.29 | markybob | NahuelM, yes, dhclient is the most likely bet |
| 23:15.28 | NahuelM | markybob: any way of stopping it overriding resolv.conf? |
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| 23:17.24 | abrotman | or resolvconf |
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| 23:18.06 | markybob | supersede domain-name-servers dnsiphere; in dhclient.conf would probably do what you need |
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| 23:19.50 | megaTherion | hmm what are the actual mirrors for the sarge backportS? |
| 23:19.56 | NahuelM | markybob: thanks |
| 23:20.13 | abrotman | megaTherion: there isn't |
| 23:20.29 | megaTherion | abrotman: sad, I need some flash plugin |
| 23:20.34 | abrotman | for sarge ? |
| 23:20.38 | megaTherion | no for lenny |
| 23:20.46 | markybob | heh |
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| 23:20.56 | jelly-home | ... |
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| 23:21.07 | abrotman | megaTherion: wtf .. does that actually make sense in your head ? |
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| 23:21.14 | abrotman | !tell megaTherion about adobe flash |
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| 23:21.25 | markybob | rofl |
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| 23:21.40 | markybob | oh, thank you, abrotman. good laugh |
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| 23:22.23 | megaTherion | abrotman: I dont care really, Im no politician |
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| 23:23.05 | abrotman | megaTherion: this has nothing to do with politics |
| 23:23.16 | megaTherion | it has |
| 23:23.25 | markybob | dude, what are you talking about? |
| 23:23.55 | megaTherion | but I get things done, when I got to an old site which is useless (about backports.org) then what shall I do, Im not in sync with current debian news because I dont use it every day |
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| 23:24.16 | abrotman | megaTherion: did you actually read the instructions on that website? |
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| 23:25.30 | markybob | megaTherion, you dont install sarge-backports in lenny. lenny is newer than sarge, thus it makes no sense |
| 23:25.43 | abrotman | and sarge-backports don't exist anymore |
| 23:26.05 | megaTherion | ya I got that idea now |
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| 23:29.53 | Kalisto_ | can someone take a look at this paste?: http://pastebin.com/m56f14846 im trying to install opensync |
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| 23:31.49 | devin | still no luck abrotman |
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| 23:32.14 | abrotman | devin: so nvidia broke your window managetr ? |
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| 23:34.22 | devin | abrotman no, I'm logged X now. How do I start the window manager? startx? is what i thought you meant |
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| 23:34.53 | abrotman | devin: is metacity installed? start an xterm and just type "metacity &" |
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| 23:36.16 | devin | abrotman, no metacity is not installed |
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| 23:36.54 | abrotman | devin: maybe you should install it ? |
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| 23:40.36 | endofox | how do I install webcam on debian lenny |
| 23:40.38 | endofox | ??????? |
| 23:41.44 | Hoxzer | go to www.google.com and type: "name of your product" linux |
| 23:42.05 | Hoxzer | most likely the linux kernel already has a support for your webcam |
| 23:42.16 | Hoxzer | so no need to install anything just test it with luvcview |
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| 23:43.03 | endofox | not have not |
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| 23:43.50 | endofox | |
| 23:43.51 | endofox | tried to make it work in amsn and not worked ... he did not detect |
| 23:45.50 | slope_ | endofox: http://www.google.com/search?q=amsn%20webcam%20msn click the link to the amsn wiki |
| 23:45.58 | disc0rd | when the rapture comes, gos will dstroy the internet and make all this go away, right? |
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| 23:50.05 | peteinlux | hello, im in a post aptitude update & upgrade situation. Nmap on localhost shows multiple services I never asked for, rcconf shows everything on. Is there a place where I can get a translation for these daemons? |
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| 23:53.47 | hehe | hello, I have little problem with debian. I have more than 1 IP on my server, they're properly configured, showed in ifconfig, also added to /etc/network/interfaces and even some standard debian deamon listens there on port 123. but I can't use (bind) on them from users level - shows "cannot assign requested address". What can cause the problem? |
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| 23:55.58 | hehe | that makes me a bit confused, as the virtual interface is configured correctly |
| 23:56.04 | hehe | anyone could give me any hint please? |
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| 23:57.47 | dashaebig | hello |
| 23:57.54 | dashaebig | is there a nice and comfy way to upate lenny to kernel 2.6.30 |
| 23:57.59 | dashaebig | without ahving to compile a new one? |
| 23:58.46 | Tramp | hehe: what are you trying to do? |
| 23:59.00 | abrotman | !tell dashaebig about bpo |
| 23:59.03 | hehe | I'm trying to run server (deamon) using that address |
| 23:59.10 | Tramp | hehe: as user? |
| 23:59.23 | hehe | yep, that deamon doesnt need root privileges |
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| 23:59.39 | Tramp | hehe: but port 123 does |
