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| 00:01.08 | leonardo_ | amphi: ok, it's because terminal add maany messages |
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| 00:01.12 | amphi | leonardo_: it's xev picking up mouse movements, I expect |
| 00:01.12 | leonardo_ | yes |
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| 00:02.08 | amphi | leonardo_: do you see anything similar when you press the /? key? is it one key on your keyboard? |
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| 00:02.24 | leonardo_ | amphi: the notebook is: Notebook IBM Lenovo 3000 C100 |
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| 00:02.25 | leonardo_ | yes it is |
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| 00:02.31 | leonardo_ | amphi: yes are te same key |
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| 00:03.05 | leonardo_ | amphi: and the 2 commands for same key doesn't work |
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| 00:03.44 | amphi | leonardo_: they generate nothing from xev? |
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| 00:04.17 | leonardo_ | I sent you the terminal log when i press the keys on xev |
| 00:04.46 | leonardo_ | amphi: I sent you the terminal log when i press the keys on xev |
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| 00:05.09 | amphi | it was a huge amount of irrelevant garbage :) |
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| 00:05.36 | amphi | leonardo_: do you see anything generated when you hit the key? |
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| 00:06.01 | leonardo_ | on terminal |
| 00:06.02 | amphi | leonardo_: do you see a keycode? |
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| 00:06.12 | leonardo_ | I'll send you the log from terminal |
| 00:06.14 | leonardo_ | can be |
| 00:06.15 | amphi | leonardo_: yes, in xev output |
| 00:06.29 | leonardo_ | amphi: http://pastebin.com/m4958a5a2 |
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| 00:07.35 | amphi | leonardo_: you mean the first blocks, relating to control_r? please don't paste lines and lines of irrelevant junk |
| 00:08.33 | leonardo_ | amphi: i hit interrogation key that doesn't work on xev and paste the result from terminal |
| 00:09.03 | amphi | leonardo_: you get no output from xev when you press that key? |
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| 00:09.38 | leonardo_ | output means |
| 00:10.03 | leonardo_ | if output is terminal messages, yes I sent you |
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| 00:10.23 | leonardo_ | amphi: if output is terminal messages, yes I sent you |
| 00:10.51 | leonardo_ | amphi: you said to not send all log messages. Sorry my english is not good |
| 00:11.05 | amphi | leonardo_: if you look at what you pasted, it shows a press/release for right control key (Control_R) and then a bunch of mouse stuff |
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| 00:11.27 | amphi | leonardo_: _WHAT_ lines are generated by the keypress? |
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| 00:11.58 | leonardo_ | amphi: I press interrogation key and not right control key |
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| 00:12.05 | leonardo_ | amphi: i'll do the same step |
| 00:12.42 | LemensTS | hey all. how do you send mail while not attaching the body? mail -s "Channels OK" 1234@txt.att.net < body.txt |
| 00:12.59 | LemensTS | mail -s "Channels OK" 1234@txt.att.net "wanna type my body text here" |
| 00:13.00 | jelly-hme | LemensTS: use /dev/null for the body? |
| 00:13.13 | LemensTS | jelly: ahh that probably would work |
| 00:13.16 | amphi | leonardo_: so, the /? key is generating the keycode for right control? 105 is right control here too |
| 00:13.19 | leonardo_ | amphi: when i press interrogarion key I see this on xev: http://pastebin.com/m7f1568cd |
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| 00:13.50 | leonardo_ | amphi: so what is wrong with my system and how to fix |
| 00:13.51 | amphi | leonardo_: ok |
| 00:14.31 | amphi | leonardo_: does lxde have some keyboard layout selector thing? |
| 00:14.59 | leonardo_ | amphi: I don't see any gui interface like gnome and kde |
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| 00:17.28 | leonardo_ | amphi: so no interface for keyboard selector that I know |
| 00:17.34 | amphi | leonardo_: I have no idea why your key should produce that keycode; if you press right control in xev, it generates the same keycode and keysym? |
| 00:17.50 | leonardo_ | let me see |
| 00:17.55 | leonardo_ | amphi: let me see |
| 00:18.10 | leonardo_ | amphi: right control is: |
| 00:18.32 | leonardo_ | amphi: I don't know what is right control key hehe |
| 00:18.55 | leonardo_ | amphi: could you tell me |
| 00:18.59 | amphi | the ctrl key to the right of the space bar (if you have one) |
| 00:19.09 | poisonbit | LemensTS, do you mean that you're getting body.txt as an attachment? then cat body.txt | mail -s "$subjec" address@domain |
| 00:20.14 | amphi | leonardo_: does you keyboard have a right ctrl key? |
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| 00:21.15 | leonardo_ | amphi: I'll send a keyboard picture to you tell me what is the ctrl right key |
| 00:21.53 | amphi | picpaste.com |
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| 00:22.07 | craigevil | lxde has a panel applet for keyboard switching |
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| 00:22.57 | leonardo_ | amphi: wait |
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| 00:28.41 | leonardo_ | amphi: wait |
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| 00:30.18 | pyther | Hi |
| 00:30.38 | pyther | What packages would I need for mpg1 mpeg2 mpeg4 etc...? |
| 00:31.11 | leonardo_ | amphi: look the keyboard photo: http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-117214082-notebook-ibmlenovo-3000-c200-160-ghz-celerom-m-512-ram-_JM |
| 00:31.21 | pyther | I have configured debian-multimedia.com |
| 00:31.28 | leonardo_ | it's exactly like mine |
| 00:31.55 | leonardo_ | amphi: click in keyboard photo to expand it |
| 00:32.31 | leonardo_ | amphi: are you bale to see |
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| 00:33.04 | leonardo_ | amphi: here notebook is lenovo thinkpad 3000 c200 |
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| 00:33.37 | leonardo_ | amphi: I think keyboard layout is ibm thinkpad, but lxde doesn't have this layout |
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| 00:34.26 | amphi | no |
| 00:35.07 | amphi | I expect you do have a right control key - what keys are between the space bar and the arrow keys? |
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| 00:35.35 | amphi | I may have to go and do something about my blood pressure |
| 00:35.49 | leonardo_ | amphi, the keyboard is: http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-117214082-notebook-ibmlenovo-3000-c200-160-ghz-celerom-m-512-ram-_JM |
| 00:35.49 | dserban_ | I need a package from backports for lenny, though it's unavailable. Is my best option to build it from sid sources? |
| 00:36.15 | leonardo_ | amphi: look the keyboard photo expanded |
| 00:36.36 | amphi | I think someone else must help you |
| 00:36.41 | leonardo_ | oh |
| 00:36.56 | leonardo_ | for a long time i try to find a help |
| 00:37.11 | shivraj | amphi: how is your blood pressure ? |
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| 00:37.20 | amphi | shivraj: dangerous |
| 00:37.30 | shivraj | amphi: why ? |
| 00:37.32 | amphi | shivraj: I must go and break things |
| 00:37.43 | shivraj | amphi: oh stress |
| 00:39.03 | lmaowaffle | most thinkpads have the same layout |
| 00:39.06 | jelly-hme | leonardo_: fwiw, lenovo 3000 series are not thinkpad branded and not really similar underneath the hood either, according to http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:Lenovo_3000 |
| 00:39.15 | lmaowaffle | where control sits between alt and windows key |
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| 00:39.37 | abrotman | not on my thinbkpad |
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| 00:39.47 | lmaowaffle | x-series? |
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| 00:39.54 | abrotman | T |
| 00:39.56 | jelly-hme | lmaowaffle: assuming there is a windows key |
| 00:40.12 | abrotman | yeah .. the other TP i have, has no windows key |
| 00:40.28 | lmaowaffle | hm, or was it the fn key, I forget |
| 00:40.40 | abrotman | mine goes Fn,Ctrl,Win,Alt,Space |
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| 00:41.15 | leonardo_ | jelly-hme: what to do |
| 00:42.07 | leonardo_ | jelly-hme: here is lenovo thinkpad 3000 c200 |
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| 00:42.25 | en1gma | sup all |
| 00:42.29 | en1gma | http://pastebin.com/m4ad38e17 |
| 00:42.34 | lmaowaffle | curiously when did IBM stop making the x-series themselves? at x60? |
| 00:42.51 | en1gma | trying to transfer a file from one box to another...what is the easiest to do? ftp or ssh.... |
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| 00:43.12 | lmaowaffle | en1gma: how secure is the network? How large is the network? |
| 00:43.33 | en1gma | its described in that pastebin i just did |
| 00:43.57 | en1gma | i have psk and mac filtering on....on the AP belkin54g |
| 00:44.21 | lmaowaffle | so its more a routing issue than anything? |
| 00:44.42 | en1gma | note: the ubuntu 9.10 is a live cd in that system until i can get that 26gig file off and put debian on that hd |
| 00:44.56 | en1gma | well the ubuntu 9.10 cd can ping the debian box |
| 00:45.12 | en1gma | so maybe i just need to setup sshd or ftpd on the debian box? |
| 00:45.47 | lmaowaffle | so where is the debian box exactly? |
| 00:45.51 | amphi | lmaowaffle: x40 I believe - lenovo retained the right to use ibm branding for a few years |
| 00:46.01 | en1gma | it is attached by cord to the AP |
| 00:46.06 | lmaowaffle | ubuntu<->wrt54G<->belkin54g<->net |
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| 00:46.51 | en1gma | thats 1/2 of it |
| 00:46.59 | lmaowaffle | so it's attached to the belkin? |
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| 00:47.24 | poisonbit | en1gma, rsync over ssh rocks if you use to copy files over themself |
| 00:47.25 | lmaowaffle | amphi: aww. I was going to pick one up from ebay.. dunno about the whole taiwan-made idea |
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| 00:47.35 | en1gma | the other 1/2 = debian corded to the AP and the ubuntu = cord to a wrt54gl which is in client mode...wirelessly conenected to the AP bellkint54g |
| 00:47.39 | itrebal | How can I reduce the number of MySQL processes spawned? |
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| 00:48.37 | poisonbit | itrebal, ¿reading the mysql documentation? |
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| 00:48.51 | itrebal | poisonbit: Not sure even where I should be looking |
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| 00:48.58 | amphi | lmaowaffle: they were for a long time when IBM made them |
| 00:49.14 | amphi | lmaowaffle: I have an X61s, it's a nice machine |
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| 00:49.35 | lmaowaffle | tat's the tablet, right? |
| 00:49.40 | lmaowaffle | pivot-screen |
| 00:49.51 | poisonbit | itrebal, in that case, the best chapter is the first or introduction |
| 00:49.57 | itrebal | Thanks, poisonbit |
| 00:49.58 | lmaowaffle | en1gma: http://pastebin.com/d7619c6f1 |
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| 00:50.40 | en1gma | ? |
| 00:50.54 | en1gma | wait |
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| 00:51.25 | lmaowaffle | not possible |
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| 00:51.52 | amphi | lmaowaffle: no, that's the X6xt |
| 00:51.59 | LemensTS | do i need to restart anything after I edit /etc/hosts.deny ? |
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| 00:53.06 | en1gma | lmaowaffle, the last bit = the belkin 54g has a wan cord going to the cable-modem and lan port1 going to the debian box....the AP also connects to the ubuntu 9.10 box corded to the openwrt which connects to the belking wirelessly |
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| 00:54.47 | lmaowaffle | so the ubuntu box has 3 net interfaces? |
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| 00:55.11 | toolz | hi. how can I update my time or change it I accidetly selected EST instead of EET |
| 00:55.14 | lmaowaffle | you may want to simplify that to fix the routing issue |
| 00:55.22 | toolz | how do I change it back ntpdate updates it for EST, bad time. |
| 00:55.46 | en1gma | ubuntu box = one single cord going to the wrt54gl (openwrt acting as a wireless client) connecting to the belkint54g Wirelessly |
| 00:55.56 | jelly-home | !timezone |
| 00:55.56 | dpkg | i heard timezone is the standard time (aka local time) in a particular region. To change the timezone on Debian systems, execute "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" (Lenny, Squeeze) or "tzconfig" (Etch, Sarge). Alternatively: "cp -b /usr/share/zoneinfo/$TZ /etc/localtime". Note that tzselect(1) does not change the timezone. |
| 00:56.27 | en1gma | lmaowaffle, the ubuntu 9.10 box is acting like a laptop connecting to the wrt54gl |
| 00:56.29 | lmaowaffle | en1gma: same subnets? |
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| 00:56.33 | en1gma | i mean the belkin54g |
| 00:56.48 | en1gma | the subnet = 255.255.255.0 part? |
| 00:56.57 | soopos | What is wrong in the command "sudo update-alternatives --install vim /usr/bin/vim.nox 60" ? |
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| 00:57.27 | toolz | anyone who can help me set up my time correctly? |
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| 00:57.36 | en1gma | if i type 'ping 192.168.2.10' it reaches the debian box From the ubuntu box |
| 00:57.48 | en1gma | i dont think i have a routing problem |
| 00:57.49 | lmaowaffle | !tell toolz about timezone |
| 00:58.01 | en1gma | i just need to know which is the fastest thing to setup for this 26 gig file |
| 00:58.02 | lmaowaffle | oops. that's wrong |
| 00:58.05 | en1gma | just one file thats all |
| 00:58.20 | lmaowaffle | ftp would be fastest |
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| 00:58.31 | en1gma | man i hate setting up all those options |
| 00:58.42 | mainer | !timezone |toolz |
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| 00:58.44 | en1gma | takes for ever reading the config files if you dont know the pkg |
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| 00:59.22 | jelly-home | mainer: it doesn't wokr that way; but lmaowaffle got the correct syntax already |
| 00:59.32 | mainer | ok,sorry |
| 00:59.53 | lmaowaffle | weird, I ended up receivng the message |
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| 01:00.05 | toolz | ty |
| 01:00.08 | jelly-home | lmaowaffle: did you read what the bot told you? |
| 01:00.10 | lmaowaffle | oh, I should actually read the message |
| 01:00.19 | lmaowaffle | hehe |
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| 01:00.42 | lmaowaffle | assumed it looped back to me because of incorrect syntax |
| 01:01.15 | doubleclick | i have a encrypted lvm setup and i failed to boot, something about VFS can't mount image... |
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| 01:01.22 | doubleclick | looks like i disabled something in my new kernel |
| 01:01.29 | jelly-home | lmaowaffle: use "-about" instead of "about" not to get the blowback message |
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| 01:01.49 | doubleclick | but i can't find what |
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| 01:02.52 | lmaowaffle | ~[6~[6~[6~[6~jeaokay, got it :) |
| 01:03.39 | lmaowaffle | yikes |
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| 01:04.15 | ootput | lmaowaffle: mouse scroll in terminal? |
| 01:04.35 | lmaowaffle | ootput: heh yeh |
| 01:04.45 | poisonbit | doubleclick, is is 2.6.32? |
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| 01:05.00 | doubleclick | poisonbit: yeah |
| 01:05.12 | doubleclick | poisonbit: forgot to mention that, sorry |
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| 01:05.20 | poisonbit | doubleclick, yesterday Immunity in #debian-es did the same problem |
| 01:05.31 | poisonbit | i think he openned a bug |
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| 01:05.55 | jelly-home | doubleclick: which debian release? |
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| 01:06.04 | poisonbit | i don't remember in which package was |
| 01:06.07 | doubleclick | jelly-home: testing |
| 01:06.15 | km | does tomcat log exception error to standout and standard error with timestamp or not? |
| 01:06.33 | lmaowaffle | doubleclick: does your new kernel include the initrd.img-? |
| 01:06.54 | lmaowaffle | or options compiled directly in kernel |
| 01:07.02 | doubleclick | poisonbit: oh, i see. can you give me a link if you remember where is it please.. |
| 01:07.50 | jelly-home | doubleclick: did you upgrade anything else apart from the kernel? udev? |
| 01:08.26 | shivraj | can you still message a channel after you are banned ? |
| 01:08.56 | doubleclick | jelly-home: no.. |
| 01:09.00 | poisonbit | doubleclick, he does not respond in #debian-es |
| 01:09.07 | ootput | shivraj: you mean notify? |
| 01:09.09 | poisonbit | doubleclick, he said it was the kernel |
| 01:09.11 | doubleclick | lmaowaffle: initrd.img |
| 01:09.16 | shivraj | ootput: how do you do that ? |
| 01:09.22 | jelly-home | shivraj: no, that's the whole point of banning |
| 01:09.35 | doubleclick | poisonbit: ok, it's no rush :) |
| 01:09.39 | poisonbit | doubleclick, i said the last changelog in http://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup/source/browse/trunk/ChangeLog maybe related |
| 01:09.43 | shivraj | jelly-home: hehe |
| 01:09.45 | shivraj | right |
| 01:09.51 | shivraj | ootput: whats notify ? |
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| 02:18.24 | lmaowaff1e | wow server gone nuts |
| 02:18.24 | asdfdfgh | yes |
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| 02:18.24 | asdfdfgh | yikes |
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| 02:18.27 | simonrvn | *sigh* it's making the bot crazy |
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| 02:44.11 | Wing | I'm trying to figure out an iptables rule for a particular situation. I have two interfaces opening onto the same network (eth1 and eth2). I want traffic outbound from eth0 to a specific external IP address to use eth2 at all times. |
| 02:44.11 | Wing | Any thoughts? |
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| 02:44.11 | sigmonsays | Wing, that's called a static route |
| 02:44.11 | sigmonsays | not even iptables |
| 02:44.11 | sigmonsays | route add -net 68.1.2.0/24 gw 192.168.6.5 |
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| 02:44.12 | Wing | See, there's a reason I'm a programmer and not a network administrator. Thanks. |
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| 02:44.12 | zinx | i hope you don't do network programming |
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| 02:44.13 | Wing | Nothing below the application layer. |
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| 02:57.07 | Saar | anyone here aware of any problems using an intel ethernet (device 10c9) and bonding? |
| 02:57.07 | Saar | if I bond 2 ethernet ports of said ethernet card together I get packet loss and duplicate packets |
| 02:57.07 | Saar | if I disconnect one of the ports networking becomes stable |
| 02:57.07 | Saar | this is lenny using backported 2.6.30 kernel |
| 02:58.40 | Saar | on a new 2 U supermicro server with 16 intel cpu cores, inc ase it matters |
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| 03:01.27 | KnuckOne | rgr: you probably need hplip |
| 03:01.28 | KnuckOne | !tell rgr about hplip |
| 03:01.36 | rgr | I have hplip |
| 03:03.22 | rgr | it just stopped working a while back. Probably when I added the webcam. |
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| 03:03.33 | KnuckOne | rgr: some updates in the meantime ? i know some people are recompiling the sane backends for some models, but i don't have some proper infos about it |
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| 04:29.26 | acu | I am going to switch to t-mobile what phone works the best with Debian - with regard to calendaring synchronization - and eventually has 2 GSM sim cards ? |
| 04:29.27 | acu | azeem you know everything :) |
| 04:29.27 | acu | what happen the gates of irc opened towards debian ? |
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| 04:39.41 | acu | is anyone awake ? |
| 04:39.50 | simonrvn | nope |
| 04:39.53 | acu | what happens - no questions no answers |
| 04:40.14 | gauge | If my installer freezes is there anything I can do? I've tried CD1 and the net isntall CD |
| 04:40.17 | acu | simonrvn: I do not know why I think you are Russian |
| 04:40.32 | gauge | it's a powerPC machine and it hates the latest testing iso... |
| 04:40.38 | acu | gauge: do not choose graphic interface |
| 04:40.52 | simonrvn | i'm not russian, though i live at similar latitudes ;) |
| 04:40.57 | acu | gauge: use the weekly installer instead of daily |
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| 04:41.14 | acu | That means Finland Japan ? |
| 04:41.32 | acu | Those are two different countries, by the way |
| 04:42.15 | gauge | acu: I'm not |
| 04:42.24 | gauge | and This is the weekly |
| 04:42.49 | simonrvn | gauge: checked the BTS yet? |
| 04:42.51 | acu | wait a second let me think ... where exactly it freezes at whichs tage |
| 04:42.54 | simonrvn | !bts |
| 04:42.54 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
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| 04:59.00 | Macer | has anybody here tried irssi-plugin-xmpp ? |
| 04:59.05 | Macer | it doesn't seem to be working |
| 04:59.55 | Macer | the plugin from the pkg doesn't seem to be integrating into irssi and i don't have xmppconnect as a command |
| 05:00.00 | Macer | or am i missing something? |
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| 05:01.05 | EdLin | Macer: maybe you should use bitlbee instead. |
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| 05:08.22 | foo | Something on my system is sucking up too much memory... and oom-killer comes to life and kills things. The problem is, I don't know what it is. Any tools to help me troubleshoot this? |
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| 05:17.38 | k\t | terminal is that <=- <=- way |
| 05:18.29 | bier | is away: zZz |
| 05:18.32 | k\t | better yet... |
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| 05:19.10 | K|NgGh0sT | I can't get apt to work anymore I keep getting the error... " files list file for package `libxklavier10' is missing final newline |
| 05:19.10 | K|NgGh0sT | " |
| 05:19.13 | k\t | . .. .bashrc .Xinitrc .bash_login .fetchmailrc .muttrc .procmailrc Desktop Mail porn |
| 05:19.19 | K|NgGh0sT | Any ideas how to fix said issues? |
| 05:20.10 | c_c-used | e,any detail ? |
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| 05:40.35 | hesco | Not sure whether this should go here or in #httpd. I have mods-enabled/rewrite.load appropriately symlinked to ../mods-available/rewrite.load, however my tests indicate that mod_rewrite is not working. Any ideas how to trouble shoot this? No errors on startup, the module seems to be there. |
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| 05:46.51 | Agiofws | hello |
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| 05:47.13 | kaziem | dpkg lennyr3 |
| 05:47.14 | dpkg | Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.3 was released on September 4th, 2009. This update corrects security problems within the <stable> release, along with adjustments for serious problems. Support for the Intel 82574L and Broadcom NetXtreme II 10Gb Ethernet controllers is introduced (for the latter, see <bnx2x>). http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090905 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/ChangeLog . To upgrade, ask me about <point release>. |
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| 05:51.31 | kaziem | does anyone know a tool to check HD health under linux? |
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| 06:09.19 | Arafangion | Hey, I want to get debian onto my crappy eeepc, using nothing more than a crappy usb disk. |
| 06:09.20 | Arafangion | What's a good resource for me to do so with? |
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| 06:09.20 | nevyn | http://debian-eeepc.alioth.debian.org/ |
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| 06:09.49 | Arafangion | Thanks. |
| 06:11.59 | nevyn | Arafangion: google knows this... |
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| 06:12.56 | Arafangion | nevyn: I was just hoping for a canned response that contained a live CD that I didn't have to compile and build myself, that I can easily put onto a USB disk. |
| 06:13.56 | nevyn | there are usb key images linked from the wikipage |
| 06:14.12 | Arafangion | nevyn: Google comes up with two results for that, actually, but one website is so annoyingly made that it could only be targeting naive windows users (The nigerian spammers would have trouble competing with that one), and the other only has instructions for windows users. (That's pendrivelinux and the other was some distro for 'business cards') |
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| 06:22.17 | bruce | any idea on how I could (easily) install the theme ubuntustudio on debian lenny? |
| 06:22.40 | kaziem | DogBoy: thanks a lot for the previous link |
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| 06:23.18 | ham5 | ive got multiple udevd's running why is that? |
| 06:23.21 | DogBoy | good luck kaziem |
| 06:23.37 | ham5 | I restart it /etc/init.d/udevd restart and one runs then a few minutes later another one starts up |
| 06:23.52 | ham5 | never more then 3 at a time tho |
| 06:23.54 | ham5 | never seen this b4 |
| 06:24.22 | kaziem | DogBoy: I think I'm going to buy a new HD.. I get some sound as if the heads land from time to time.. it all resumes as normal though |
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| 06:36.54 | superlinux | I have this: i can download using apt-get, but if I want to open a page, the page sometimes half opens and keeps trying opening it, or it does not open at all. the browsing thing happens independently from the apt-get. so what should I do here? |
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| 06:43.33 | superlinux | allo? |
| 06:43.37 | superlinux | I have this: i can download using apt-get, but if I want to open a page, the page sometimes half opens and keeps trying opening it, or it does not open at all. the browsing thing happens independently from the apt-get. so what should I do here? |
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| 06:46.56 | razvand | Hi! I just updated my Squeeze installation to Gnome 2.28. I have a Dell Inspiron 1521. After the update, whenever I hibernate or suspend my laptop, the touchpad loses its "click" functionality (the left-click button or right-click button still work). It gets restored after restarting X. Why is that happening? Can I reload the touchpad configuration without restarting X? Should I file a bug report? Where should I file it? |
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| 06:47.45 | ranix | !time zones |
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| 06:48.40 | macrobat | razvand: maybe start gsynaptic and tick the box for tapping |
| 06:49.19 | razvand | yup, that was it! many thanks, macrobat! |
| 06:49.43 | macrobat | there might be some hal/fdi stuff to enable tapping by default |
| 06:49.57 | razvand | macrobat, do you think this is happening because of improper configuration or is it a bug? |
| 06:50.00 | macrobat | im not on my laptop0 right now :) |
| 06:50.30 | razvand | macrobat, it worked fine before the update - no functionality was lost after a hibernate or suspend action |
| 06:50.57 | macrobat | i would guess configuration, but i never suspend |
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| 07:02.03 | superlinux | rephrasing:i have two routers. one router is all good and keeps me working fine. the other one , when i browse , the browser keeps trying to open a page, it says "tranferring from ..." and never says "Done" and the page is a forum page. no videos or such ever going download. much like the ubuntu forum website. it says what i described, but i dont see a page at all. |
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| 07:12.41 | superlinux | rephrasing:i have two routers. one router is all good and keeps me working fine. the other one , when i browse , the browser keeps trying to open a page, it says "tranferring from ..." and never says "Done" and the page is a forum page. no videos or such ever going download. much like the ubuntu forum website. it says what i described, but i dont see a page at all. |
| 07:13.00 | superlinux | rephrasing:i have two routers. one router is all good and keeps me working fine. the other one , when i browse , the browser keeps trying to open a page, it says "tranferring from ..." and never says "Done" and the page is a forum page. no videos or such ever going download. much like the ubuntu forum website. it says what i described, but i dont see a page at all. please help. |
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| 07:30.56 | redguy | hi, my nfs server crashed in lenny. Is there a way I can unmount the clients by force without restarting them? |
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| 07:31.27 | OpenTokix | redguy: on the clients umount -l -f /mount/point |
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| 07:37.37 | redguy | OpenTokix: thanks |
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| 07:38.39 | Arafangion | Any idea why my eeePC might not be booting from the usb stick? |
| 07:38.46 | Arafangion | (Any special requirements on the usb disk?) |
| 07:42.13 | Arafangion | (Nevermind... Turns out that usb boot drive configuration in eeePC's are... odd) |
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| 07:43.16 | maligor | <OEM> when in doubt, make sure you break standards |
| 07:44.24 | Arafangion | Yeah, well, it turns out that _this_ particular system only allows booting from a usb disk when it is set up as a "hard drive". |
| 07:44.35 | Arafangion | Not as a floppy drive or even as "removable media", the latter which the bios claims to support. |
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| 07:45.31 | maligor | yeah, sucky bios's suck :P |
| 07:46.28 | Arafangion | My question of the day: Can I back up a windows system using the debian installer? :) |
| 07:46.51 | Arafangion | (Just the HDD image copied over the network... I don't want to deal with crap) |
| 07:49.09 | Arafangion | (I want to install debian without "loosing" any data that's already there) |
| 07:49.15 | maligor | mm |
| 07:49.41 | maligor | can't remember what tools it had |
| 07:49.46 | redguy | Hmm, nfsd is still hanging on the server. I guess I really need to reboot, because these processes are unkillable |
| 07:49.50 | maligor | mostly it's a problem of storage space and transfers |
| 07:50.15 | Arafangion | On-device storage is a problem, but the real issue I have is the transfer. |
| 07:50.45 | maligor | yeah, I can't remember what protocols the kernel/userland on the install supported |
| 07:50.52 | maligor | you can get a shell on it however |
| 07:50.56 | Arafangion | I could perhaps compress the stuff onto another partition on the usb drive... But I don't even have gzip. (I do have gunzip, though) |
| 07:51.03 | maligor | (by pressing Alt-F2 iirc) |
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| 07:51.26 | Arafangion | I have zcat, but no netcat. |
| 07:51.48 | maligor | what about cifs support in kernel? |
| 07:52.23 | maligor | or any other network filesystem that you might have setup |
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| 07:52.44 | bleah | aloha |
| 07:53.07 | Arafangion | Hmm, it has kernel 2.6.26, so that's plausible, but I don't have mount-cifs or smbmount or cousins. |
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| 07:53.18 | maligor | also you can probably use the debian live project images |
| 07:53.20 | Arafangion | Although I do have mount itself. |
| 07:53.24 | maligor | they should have more utilities |
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| 07:53.48 | Arafangion | I've yet to find *simple* instructions as to how to set them up. |
| 07:53.57 | maligor | 'them'? |
| 07:54.03 | Arafangion | The various live-cd's. |
| 07:54.04 | redguy | do I really need to reboot? I hava a situation like this: http://pastebin.ca/1715452 after a kernel Oops in nfs code |
| 07:54.15 | Arafangion | Also note I have only 512MB of RAM. |
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| 07:54.23 | maligor | 512 is plenty |
| 07:54.35 | maligor | probably |
| 07:55.03 | Arafangion | Depending on how they've done the Live CD... Many these days like to use tmpfs's, compressed fs's, and gnome. |
| 07:55.43 | maligor | well, debian live seems to have a 'usb-hdd' option and several image options |
| 07:55.50 | maligor | I can't say I've ever used them however |
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| 07:56.42 | Arafangion | I'm using UNetbootin |
| 07:56.50 | Arafangion | One, simple command. |
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| 07:57.26 | nettezzaumana | hi |
| 07:57.57 | Arafangion | maligor: Looks like it supports "damn small linux", so that might be the way to go, for this particular task. :) |
| 07:57.59 | nettezzaumana | can i somehow investigate, which switches were used to build some.deb package from packagefile itself? |
| 07:58.05 | nettezzaumana | thanks |
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| 08:01.37 | Arafangion | maligor: Turns out that all that's required is a 'dd'. |
| 08:01.51 | Arafangion | maligor: Which is nice. :) |
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| 08:02.09 | Arafangion | Presumeably, I can do that with any CD ISO. |
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| 08:13.46 | cobra-the-joker | Gnome is closing source !!!! |
| 08:14.00 | Loafers | WHAT!?!?!? |
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| 08:14.27 | cobra-the-joker | from the gnome mail list --> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2009-December/msg00055.html |
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| 08:15.33 | alhadi | hello |
| 08:15.35 | alhadi | how do i disable packet filtering ? |
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| 08:17.03 | Loafers | Does wireless on debian still suck? |
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| 08:17.23 | cobra-the-joker | wireless on debian is cool |
| 08:17.52 | cobra-the-joker | here Broadcom is working cool |
| 08:19.33 | redguy | this gets more and more hilarious, shutdown right now is stuck in D state as well |
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| 08:29.01 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 08:29.01 | dpkg | <linuxrules> i dont have problems with languaje |
| 08:29.09 | liable | heh |
| 08:29.17 | pif | hi, is there a way to have the linux-image-* kernel packages configure lilo as before? |
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| 08:29.32 | nettezzaumana | cobra-the-joker: honestly, i pray every day for all opensource project that all of them will one day drop filthy GNU dictate .. |
| 08:29.34 | pif | I roll my own with make-kpkg |
| 08:29.35 | liable | it never used to did it? |
| 08:29.51 | nettezzaumana | cobra-the-joker: so gnome seems like turning to right direction |
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| 08:30.12 | cobra-the-joker | nettezzaumana , i know ..its not good enoug |
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| 08:30.55 | cobra-the-joker | but if gnome gone out ...distributions actually will have a very different shape ( KDE ) which some people dislike |
| 08:31.29 | cobra-the-joker | and Linux for the PC will have less attention |
| 08:31.37 | cobra-the-joker | its a very big move |
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| 08:32.26 | nettezzaumana | cobra-the-joker: well .. reread article you mentioned .. controversy is elsewhere |
| 08:32.53 | remoteCTRL | hi guys! i have upgraded our mailserver's os to lenny and ever since that i am having these "4gb seg fixup, process java and munin" errors occurring like every other second, so i followed this procedure: http://www.completefusion.com/wordpress/4gb-seg-fixup-errors-on-debian-lenny-xen-domu/ that until now always used to fix the problem, but now it doesn't anymore and the server crashed yesterday... any help appreciated! |
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| 08:33.24 | cobra-the-joker | nettezzaumana , i readed the article with the replies actually |
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| 08:33.51 | themill | points towards #debian-offtopic |
| 08:34.16 | cobra-the-joker | themill , its a very big linux issue ...and debian is getting affected |
| 08:34.37 | cobra-the-joker | is making a big deal of it |
| 08:34.39 | themill | cobra-the-joker: this is a support channel not a discussion channel. You're also completely misreading things |
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| 08:35.12 | nettezzaumana | cobra-the-joker: me not, but iirc it's about gnome's repulsion to stay under filthy GNU's dictate .. not about if they want produce opensourced software or not |
| 08:35.24 | nettezzaumana | themill: ok, we'll chill |
| 08:37.24 | nettezzaumana | themill: ok, i've been asking here but noone answered .. :D ..so onece again: can i somehow investigate from deb package itself a exact build switches which were been used or should i rather molest packager via email |
| 08:37.28 | nettezzaumana | thanks |
| 08:38.25 | remoteCTRL | anybody please? |
| 08:38.52 | themill | nettezzaumana: /msg dpkg debian/rules |
| 08:39.21 | nettezzaumana | themill: thanks a lot .. i am not deb guy |
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| 08:40.33 | the-dude | remoteCTRL: http://wiki.debian.org/Xen#A4gbsegfixuperrors |
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| 08:41.11 | MendoCino | Hosanna bruderz |
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| 08:41.29 | liable | eh? |
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| 08:44.04 | cast | morning |
| 08:44.51 | liable | afternoon |
| 08:45.22 | cast | i was just thinking, all these debian derivatives means more people looking at the code, less chance of a backdoor making it through |
| 08:45.41 | liable | not neccessarily |
| 08:45.54 | cast | notice, "less chance" :P |
| 08:46.03 | ranix | judd: pciid 7135:1002 |
| 08:46.05 | judd | ranix: [7135:1002] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in lenny or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=7135:1002 |
| 08:46.13 | ranix | judd: pciid 1002:7135 |
| 08:46.15 | judd | ranix: [1002:7135] is 'Unknown device' from 'ATI Technologies Inc' with kernel module 'ati-agp' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:7135 |
| 08:46.23 | cast | a chance event is by nature not nessarily occuring |
| 08:46.28 | ranix | judd: pciid 1002:71C5 |
| 08:46.30 | judd | ranix: [1002:71c5] is 'M56P [Radeon Mobility X1600]' from 'ATI Technologies Inc' with kernel module 'ati-agp' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:71c5 |
| 08:46.37 | themill | cast: how many people are actually looking at the code? Think about who most of these derivatives are appealing to. |
| 08:46.44 | liable | ranix: dude, you can /msg the bot |
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| 08:46.48 | themill | teaches ranix about /msg |
| 08:47.30 | cast | themill: i wasn't thinkg about the users, i was thinking about the distro developers |
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| 08:47.49 | liable | and i bet they dont look at the actual code much either |
| 08:48.13 | cast | peers |
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| 08:48.30 | cast | maybe not. |
| 08:48.34 | liable | squints |
| 08:48.37 | ranix | oh I didn't know you could msg judd |
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| 08:48.50 | ranix | I recall it not working |
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| 08:48.58 | ranix | maybe you have to be in #debian for him to respond |
| 08:49.10 | liable | or identified to nickserv |
| 08:50.02 | remoteCTRL | the-dude: yeaaah... which is precisely what i did but it didn't fix it unfortunately, i keep getting the exact same error...? |
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| 09:06.52 | mastro | i've a little server (debian stable) on a VMWare virtual machine. I installed debian on some LVM directories. Now I need to increase the size of the disk, does LVM help me in some way? |
| 09:08.16 | cast | sure |
| 09:08.32 | cast | you could add more pvs to the vg |
| 09:08.50 | cast | or if you already have spare space in your vg, just grow your lv and then your fs |
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| 09:12.11 | Supaplex | mastro: google for the lvm2 howto. |
| 09:12.27 | mastro | Supaplex, ok |
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| 09:14.21 | lmaowaffle | hi guys anyone know the name of the IM-daemon that uses libpurple that allows multi-protocol chat? Also, if it's available in testing? |
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| 09:14.52 | ootput | lmaowaffle: minbif |
| 09:15.05 | ootput | , and yes |
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| 09:15.28 | lmaowaffle | ootput: cool. any idea if it's comparable to bitlbee? |
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| 09:15.53 | ootput | word has it that bitlbee dev is lackluster |
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| 09:18.00 | lmaowaffle | also, from logs, msn-support in minbif is undesirable |
| 09:18.17 | lmaowaffle | but do you have any real world experience? |
| 09:18.35 | ootput | no? |
| 09:18.41 | cast | using msn? hell no |
| 09:18.56 | lmaowaffle | cast: why? |
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| 09:19.07 | cast | it's crap. |
| 09:19.09 | TIMiD0 | hey anyone in here uses mutt and gnupg? |
| 09:19.35 | lmaowaffle | I'd think libpurple had better msn support, and pidgin has been around for a looong time |
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| 09:19.57 | ootput | lmaowaffle: it was mainly centered around (g)AIM |
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| 09:20.17 | cast | proprietary protocols must die! |
| 09:20.18 | ootput | TIMiD0: there's a mutt channel on freenode |
| 09:20.40 | cast | and a gnupg one, too |
| 09:20.41 | TIMiD0 | i know |
| 09:20.44 | TIMiD0 | no one is picking up |
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| 09:25.39 | ethanol | could anyone here recommend a cli irc client with a not so steep learning curve? or otherwise well documenten |
| 09:25.43 | ethanol | documented even |
| 09:25.49 | cast | irssi is best |
| 09:25.54 | dutchfish | irssi |
| 09:26.09 | ethanol | all in favor? |
| 09:26.14 | ethanol | goes to google |
| 09:26.14 | liable | !best irc client |
| 09:26.14 | dpkg | i guess irssi is the best <IRC> client ever. "aptitude install irssi" and read http://www.irssi.org/documentation/startup . See also http://irssi.org/documentation/faq . http://www.irssi.org/ #irssi on open.ircnet.net and irc.freenode.net. |
| 09:26.50 | cast | would be nice if someone finished polishing the python plugin, though, :< |
| 09:27.15 | ethanol | if I want to have irssi to keep running when I log off from my terminal, I'd have to use screen I assume? |
| 09:27.45 | TIMiD0 | hey anyone in here uses mutt and gnupg? |
| 09:27.50 | nettezzaumana | ethanol: you shouldn't be off your terminal |
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| 09:28.13 | ethanol | nettezzaumana: but I'm not at work 24/7 ): |
| 09:28.14 | liable | whaaat? |
| 09:28.27 | gauge | ethanol: I second irssi |
| 09:28.32 | ootput | ethanol: why the frown? |
| 09:28.46 | ethanol | cause that implies I have to log off from my terminal |
| 09:28.58 | ootput | weechat is advertised as having sane defaults.. you could look into that too |
| 09:29.21 | ootput | both are available in debian repositories |
| 09:29.29 | cast | use screen |
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| 09:29.44 | lmaowaffle | weechat has too much going on |
| 09:29.52 | lmaowaffle | I end up disabling half of the default layout |
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| 09:30.01 | cast | or at least detach if you only have 16MB of memory or something |
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| 09:30.35 | ethanol | 16mb? |
| 09:30.37 | ethanol | huh? |
| 09:30.48 | ethanol | nah, I'll run irssi on our dev server. |
| 09:31.10 | ethanol | it's poop, but I think it has more than 16mb ram =D |
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| 09:31.30 | ethanol | weird, it has 6gb |
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| 09:31.34 | ethanol | I don't remember that |
| 09:31.43 | ootput | ethanol: chroot jail it |
| 09:31.58 | ootput | safer IRC environment |
| 09:31.59 | cast | whyy would he chroot it? |
| 09:32.10 | cast | wait, chroot is a security thing? |
| 09:32.37 | ootput | chroot/jail |
| 09:32.37 | OpenTokix | cast: no |
| 09:32.48 | cast | !chroot |
| 09:32.48 | dpkg | a way to change the root directory of a process, see also http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch09.en.html#_chroot_system |
| 09:33.09 | OpenTokix | cast: http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/Abusing_chroot |
| 09:33.12 | nettezzaumana | starenka_: meh |
| 09:33.29 | cast | OpenTokix: i thought dpkg would link to that or similar :< |
| 09:33.32 | cmyers | I see from asking dpkg about "noipv6" that it is built into the kernel now, and how to disable it with a reboot - but isn't there some way to tell my machine to "prefer ipv4" without actally removing the ipv6 kernel module? |
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| 09:34.19 | ethanol | if you have no ipv6 interface I think it's safe to assume your machine will prefer ipv4 |
| 09:34.31 | dutchfish | ethanol, http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Disabling_IPv6_under_a_2.6_kernel |
| 09:34.33 | starenka_ | nettezzaumana: ;) |
| 09:34.42 | ethanol | dutchfish: uh, but I'm not interested in that |
| 09:34.45 | lmaowaffle | cmyers: countless ways, /etc/sysctl.conf for one |
| 09:34.55 | dutchfish | ethanol, sorry, was ment for cmyers |
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| 09:35.12 | nettezzaumana | starenka_: i'm sitting on da toilet but nothing is coming out yet |
| 09:35.20 | cast | fuck using chroot as a means to create 'jails', vserver isn't that hard to use |
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| 09:35.51 | ethanol | I'm not installing a vserver just to run irssi |
| 09:36.11 | cast | no ones suggesting you do [i think] |
| 09:36.33 | nettezzaumana | well at first .. this discussion is boring for me .. hey ethanol, do you have some responsible adult around there? |
| 09:36.51 | nettezzaumana | ethanol: you shouldn't run irssi on production system |
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| 09:37.37 | cmyers | lmaowaffle: That looks promising, thanks |
| 09:37.49 | nettezzaumana | cast: and for you, chrooting $anything what shouldn't run on productional system is not a solution |
| 09:37.52 | cast | nettezzaumana: he's not |: |
| 09:38.39 | cast | nettezzaumana: i can only assuming you have read the exact opposite of what i've said, and then inferred a few other things |
| 09:38.47 | cast | s/ing/e |
| 09:39.01 | lmaowaffle | you couldn't take him seriously after his first comment |
| 09:39.09 | lmaowaffle | regarding the toilet |
| 09:39.09 | ethanol | nettezzaumana: it's not production |
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| 09:39.32 | nettezzaumana | ok, i didn't reread very carefully |
| 09:39.40 | lmaowaffle | ethanol: ssh into home machine and irc from there |
| 09:40.01 | ethanol | my home machine is a mac, I can't just do apt-get there |
| 09:40.06 | ethanol | I'd have to do complicated stuff |
| 09:40.08 | ethanol | ;( |
| 09:40.11 | ethanol | like, download it |
| 09:40.13 | ethanol | and install i |
| 09:40.15 | ethanol | it |
| 09:40.18 | nettezzaumana | ethanol: so use screen to be able keep terminal app surviving after logout .. |
| 09:40.27 | nettezzaumana | ethanol: you wrote it |
| 09:40.28 | ethanol | I know =D |
| 09:40.38 | lmaowaffle | yeah, a third step will be catastrophic :/ |
| 09:40.42 | ethanol | indeed so |
| 09:40.50 | ethanol | plus, I didn't turn it on today, so, yeah :\ |
| 09:41.00 | lmaowaffle | Wake on lan |
| 09:41.08 | ethanol | probably disabled |
| 09:41.08 | cast | i see the problem, OSX doesn't have apt |
| 09:41.09 | lmaowaffle | portforward to broadcast |
| 09:41.27 | TheAvatar | Anybody knows of a very lightweight smtp (relay-agent), that supports rewriting of to/env-to etc, when matching a given string (so not all emails are rewritten). I tried with exim on my mailhub, but doesnt really work as I expect it to |
| 09:41.30 | cast | lmaowaffle: lol. |
| 09:42.05 | ethanol | cast: yes it's very unpleasant ): |
| 09:42.26 | cmyers | lmaowaffle: sweet, that totally solved my problem - I edited /etc/sysctl.d/bindv6only.conf to set it so an ipv6 socket can talk ipv4 also. |
| 09:42.40 | cmyers | now all my stupid java programs will talk to the intarnets again, hooray |
| 09:42.43 | cast | for the first time ever i saw an ARM netbook at dicksmith, 128MB, 1GB, wifi, 7" |
| 09:42.45 | gauge | Arg. I can;t install Debian. Everything I try Aptitude ends up freezing. I tried testign and stable, CD and netinstall. |
| 09:43.00 | lmaowaffle | cast: dse, probably another rip-off |
| 09:43.13 | cast | gauge: tried debootstrap? |
| 09:43.23 | gauge | not yet. |
| 09:43.30 | cast | gauge: wonder if you have dodgy HW |
| 09:43.53 | gauge | I don't. |
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| 09:44.01 | lmaowaffle | cast: link? |
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| 09:44.17 | cast | lmaowaffle: ahhh...wait...was JB Hifi |
| 09:44.19 | gauge | I own a lot of ppc hw, and this machine was running Dbeian rust fine. I just wanted a clean install.. |
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| 09:44.49 | christianp | hi all |
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| 09:45.09 | gauge | hi christianp |
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| 09:46.06 | lmaowaffle | cast: no matches |
| 09:46.13 | lmaowaffle | do you remember which brand? |
| 09:46.31 | cast | sec, waiting for piece of shit site to load |
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| 09:46.51 | cast | http://www.ubisurfer.com.au/html/Press_release.htm i think it was that |
| 09:47.01 | cast | was around 278$ |
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| 09:47.37 | cast | "and embedded wireless data modem and SIM to make the Internet truly ubiquitous." oh dude, epic. |
| 09:47.47 | lmaowaffle | heh |
| 09:47.59 | christianp | a quick help: i bought a server in a webfarm (Dell PowerEdge R210) and i ask for installing debian lenny amd64. This morning i receive a call from the technician saying ethernet interface is not supported by stable, only unstable, so he ask me for another distro or for using unstable. |
| 09:48.02 | christianp | any hints? |
| 09:48.05 | lmaowaffle | that's a bit pricey compared to other budget netbook offerings with shtloads more memory |
| 09:48.49 | christianp | i suppose is not a good thing to install unstable in a production server, but in the same time i think there's no other linux distro as valid as debian |
| 09:48.54 | dutchfish | gauge, where does it leave you exactly (during install)? |
| 09:49.20 | Supaplex | christianp: mmmm maybe something like etchnhalf, wait.. we're on lenny. humm |
| 09:49.23 | Supaplex | !lennynhalf |
| 09:49.27 | cast | christianp: can you get him to use a bpo kernel |
| 09:49.55 | Supaplex | what's that .jp site for newer kernels in stable? eg, for bran spakin off the line new kinda hardware? |
| 09:49.58 | lmaowaffle | christianp: yeah, keep stable and opt for a more recent kernel |
| 09:50.01 | cast | lmaowaffle: ja, a Eee 701 is around that price - though, it comes with a modem |
| 09:50.25 | lmaowaffle | kmuto.jp/debian? |
| 09:50.55 | gauge | dutchfish: Thank you. IRght after setting up users/password, on the "select packages" screen |
| 09:51.39 | dutchfish | gauge, try expert install and just "TAB" not enter to the line and add noapic nolapic |
| 09:51.40 | christianp | cast, lmaowaffle so you mean i have to ask for a kernel in backport? |
| 09:51.53 | lmaowaffle | yep |
| 09:52.01 | gauge | nolapic? |
| 09:52.07 | dutchfish | nods |
| 09:52.12 | christianp | i suppose i have simply ask him to add backport repository, isn't it? |
| 09:52.19 | gauge | whats that? |
| 09:52.43 | cast | christianp: depends how much work he'll do, if he put etch on and just cant find the network card then putting on the kernel .deb from bpo isn't tooo much work |
| 09:52.49 | cast | adding a repo might not work too well when you have no network |
| 09:52.52 | lmaowaffle | christianp: link em to the instructions page |
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| 09:53.20 | lmaowaffle | oh right, there's also that consideration |
| 09:53.35 | christianp | oh, it's true :) |
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| 09:54.06 | christianp | cast, so i have to ask him to use the .deb from backport |
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| 09:54.19 | cast | depends, he might say sod off |
| 09:54.25 | dutchfish | gauge, it means: Do not enable or use the local APIC |
| 09:54.37 | cast | but yeah, thats what i'd aim for. |
| 09:54.51 | gauge | ah. 'local' apic. I see. |
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| 09:55.21 | lmaowaffle | christianp: though really, he should've done some research on supported hardware prior to installing the distro |
| 09:55.23 | gauge | now for a dumb question. a powerPC G4 should allow me to use expert64 right? |
| 09:55.37 | lmaowaffle | it's a paid service, after all, right? |
| 09:55.38 | dutchfish | gauge, i gue snot |
| 09:55.40 | bor | weee, irssi |
| 09:55.41 | cast | does this box have an ilo? |
| 09:55.43 | christianp | lmaowaffle, i choose the distro |
| 09:55.58 | christianp | lmaowaffle, yes, i pay for it :) |
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| 09:56.41 | christianp | but the solution he propose was ubuntu server!!!! i say: it's better a debian unstable then a ubuntu server :) |
| 09:56.45 | dutchfish | gauge, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC_G4 |
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| 09:57.02 | gauge | thanks for hte link dutchfish |
| 09:57.57 | cast | christianp: do you have serial console access? |
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| 09:58.01 | dutchfish | gauge, yw |
| 09:58.34 | lmaowaffle | christianp: is there any way for him to temporarily use a supported net device? |
| 09:58.53 | lmaowaffle | he must have lots of spare nics lying around |
| 09:59.06 | cast | bit of hassle though, easier to just copy a deb on |
| 09:59.18 | christianp | cast, lmaowaffle in this time i have no access to the server |
| 09:59.50 | christianp | but i suppose the technician has no familiarity eith debian |
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| 10:00.08 | lmaowaffle | yeah, but what if he needs certain -modules packages? |
| 10:00.36 | lmaowaffle | christianp: what's his resume say? |
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| 10:00.59 | christianp | he gives me access to the server, then i have to "administrate" the server |
| 10:01.09 | christianp | but the problem now is i giving access to the server :) |
| 10:02.13 | christianp | in 5 minutes he phone me, but at this point i suggest to use backport kernel, otherwise i have to choose redhat or suse (both supported) |
| 10:03.04 | christianp | i read it in dell site :( |
| 10:03.29 | cast | there's debian testing, too |
| 10:03.51 | christianp | he says the ethernet works only with sid |
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| 10:04.16 | dutchfish | christianp, what nic is it btw? |
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| 10:04.46 | christianp | broadcom netxtreme 5709 |
| 10:05.00 | dutchfish | christianp, e1000e i gues |
| 10:05.13 | christianp | dutchfish, what you mean? |
| 10:05.15 | dutchfish | christianp, you just need a new enough kernel |
| 10:05.21 | lmaowaffle | chipset |
| 10:05.34 | christianp | ah, ok |
| 10:05.48 | christianp | i'm searching for the nic in dell site |
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| 10:06.13 | dutchfish | christianp, i have compiled 2.6.32 stable for it, but 2.6.30 might do as well, but then you need the intel driver |
| 10:06.14 | cast | sid has 2.6.31+22, squeeze has 2.6.30+21,and bpo 2.6.30-bpo.2, mm, guess bpo won't be an answer if squeeze won't work |
| 10:06.41 | OpenTokix | What is bpo? |
| 10:06.48 | lmaowaffle | !bpo |
| 10:06.49 | dpkg | backports.org is a semi-official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions . A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update. See also <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents>. |
| 10:07.04 | OpenTokix | thx |
| 10:07.13 | dutchfish | christianp, is it an r200 or something? |
| 10:07.21 | christianp | r210 |
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| 10:07.31 | dutchfish | christianp, yep, easy doable |
| 10:07.53 | christianp | i wish it (for the technician) |
| 10:08.08 | dutchfish | christianp, use kmuto ones for install, then you will be fine |
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| 10:08.11 | abou_7anash_009 | hi all I am trying to execute a file...it exists in the dir when I try to execute it I get file not found please see http://pastebin.ca/1715539 |
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| 10:08.17 | naquad | hi |
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| 10:08.50 | christianp | dutchfish, what is kmuto? |
| 10:08.57 | dutchfish | !kmuto |
| 10:08.57 | dpkg | For Debian Lenny (or Etch) installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ . The included <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files in 0627 images are required to be moved prior to network hardware detection, see comments of http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2630-lenny.htm |
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| 10:09.31 | dutchfish | christianp, you can use his latest debian installer iso |
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| 10:10.32 | naquad | people, i'm trying to build openbox-3.4.8 with debian/ from source package openbox-3.4.7.2. i've added lines to debian/changelog, but trying to do dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b fails with error message: dpkg-checkbuilddeps: error: syntax error in debian/control at line 113: duplicate field Section found , what am i doing wrong? |
| 10:11.21 | christianp | dutchfish, kernel version 2.6.30 |
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| 10:11.37 | christianp | you say 2.6.32 |
| 10:11.45 | dutchfish | christianp, yes, but it has working nic drivers |
| 10:11.50 | christianp | ah, ok |
| 10:11.59 | dutchfish | christianp, yes, i use this: |
| 10:12.02 | christianp | so i have to use this iso |
| 10:12.04 | dutchfish | Linux ws-151 2.6.32.1-lldesktop-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Dec 15 00:35:40 CET 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 10:12.24 | dutchfish | christianp, yes, the lenny one |
| 10:12.34 | gauge | dutchfish: no good. still halts @ 1%. |
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| 10:12.45 | christianp | lenny-custom-0627.iso |
| 10:13.02 | dutchfish | christianp, thats my best bet |
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| 10:13.09 | christianp | ok, thanks |
| 10:13.29 | dutchfish | gauge, mmm |
| 10:13.42 | dutchfish | gauge, have you tried different vga modes? |
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| 10:13.55 | gauge | ...really? |
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| 10:14.32 | dutchfish | gauge, well, i dont know exactly what hardware you have, so i am doing the guessing game |
| 10:15.29 | gauge | YEah.. well it's a 17" powerbook G4, nvidia graphics. |
| 10:15.35 | dutchfish | gauge, acpi might get in your way as well |
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| 10:15.44 | gauge | I've never had this kind of problem before when installign debian on it. |
| 10:15.47 | dutchfish | gauge, on install time that is |
| 10:15.53 | gauge | I see. |
| 10:16.07 | gauge | so I'll try "expert noapci" now. |
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| 10:16.21 | dutchfish | gauge, obvious q: have you verified your bootable cd? |
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| 10:16.44 | gauge | Honestly, no. but I have tried 4 cds. |
| 10:16.46 | dutchfish | gauge, mysterious hangs often come form bad media |
| 10:16.58 | gauge | thats' 4 different iso btw. |
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| 10:17.04 | dutchfish | gauge, there is a nice verification tool on board ;) |
| 10:17.25 | gauge | whast the code for it? |
| 10:17.36 | dutchfish | gauge, no code, it ssomeone in the menu system |
| 10:17.41 | dutchfish | somewhere* |
| 10:17.44 | gauge | uh hun. |
| 10:17.58 | gauge | oh "verify instalation media" yeah that check was fine. |
| 10:18.03 | dutchfish | nods |
| 10:18.12 | dutchfish | mmm... |
| 10:18.35 | dutchfish | you are using the lenny installer? |
| 10:18.49 | gauge | I was trying both lenny and squeeze |
| 10:18.56 | gauge | net install and cd install |
| 10:19.02 | dutchfish | squeeze is not that swell atm |
| 10:19.10 | dutchfish | so use lenny |
| 10:19.43 | gauge | will do. ...once htis fails. already booted up squeeze again... |
| 10:19.54 | abou_7anash_009 | hi all I am trying to execute a file...it exists in the dir when I try to execute it I get file not found please see http://pastebin.ca/1715539 |
| 10:20.35 | gauge | abou_7anash_009: did you set it to be exacutable, w/ chmod? |
| 10:21.39 | gauge | like "chown usename ./wrapper-x86" and then "chmod 755 ./wrapper-x86" ? |
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| 10:26.55 | dutchfish | gauge, so try with acpi=off also |
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| 10:28.03 | dutchfish | konnertz, http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=bzr |
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| 10:30.13 | jelly | konnertz: also, /msg judd versions bzr |
| 10:31.40 | gauge | YEah. THat failed again. 'expert acpi=off" is what I'll try next. |
| 10:32.22 | konnertz | thx. Isee, this is for lemmy |
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| 10:32.58 | jelly | dunno... etch-backports: 1.5-1~bpo40+1 sounds etchy |
| 10:32.59 | konnertz | http://wiki.bazaar.canonical.com/DistroDownloads#Debian |
| 10:33.22 | konnertz | yes that's right, I got that installed but want a more recent |
| 10:33.37 | jelly | you'll have to build it yourself then |
| 10:33.38 | konnertz | it's not compatible to 2.0 i got locally |
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| 10:33.46 | konnertz | yes i guess i do |
| 10:33.52 | jelly | konnertz: /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 10:42.44 | cobra-the-joker | Hey guys ....how can i get the public IP address to my localHost ? |
| 10:43.02 | rgr | jelly: I recently noticed my scanner does not work (again). Hp Office Jet. XSane only sees the webcam device as a potential source. Any ideas how to debug this? The HP prints fine. |
| 10:43.23 | rgr | cobra-the-joker: google "my ip address", |
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| 10:43.59 | jelly | rgr: I don't work with scanners. |
| 10:44.32 | rgr | guess its time to get my knees dusty and unplug the web cam :-; |
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| 10:45.14 | cobra-the-joker | rgr , ok |
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| 10:45.31 | gauge | dutchfish: Frozen still. 1%. ..this is so becoming a recuring nightmare now... |
| 10:45.50 | dutchfish | gauge, yeh, looks like it, i am running out of other options |
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| 10:46.40 | dutchfish | gauge, maybe you try later on again; some mac user might recognize your problem |
| 10:47.45 | gauge | Aye, good idea. While i was googling for a solution I also noted that nvidia has yet to release any drivers for linux/ppc. |
| 10:48.12 | dutchfish | gauge, hence i suggested to use a vesa modus |
| 10:48.34 | gauge | It makes sence now. Kinda. |
| 10:48.54 | dutchfish | gauge, try vga=791 or others might do it as well |
| 10:49.10 | gauge | thanks again dutchfish |
| 10:49.19 | dutchfish | gauge, along with the acpi=off |
| 10:49.26 | dutchfish | gauge, yw |
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| 10:51.20 | dutchfish | gauge, fyi, nouveaux ha sjust entered the latest kernel, so th enext release nvidia will have better driver support |
| 10:51.21 | krion | hi |
| 10:52.16 | jelly | dutchfish: what makes you think Debian will switch the kernel from the generally-agreed-upon 2.6.32 to something newer for squeeze? |
| 10:52.37 | dutchfish | jelly, bpo by that time? |
| 10:52.49 | jelly | bpo != support |
| 10:53.05 | dutchfish | jelly, yes |
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| 10:54.00 | dutchfish | jelly, i am sorry, if my statement was misleading, i just know it is in the kernel nnow, so one day it will come in to Debian, maybe not squeeze but at least after that |
| 10:54.04 | rgr | Hmm. Even cups is hosed. Unknown operation "add-printer"! |
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| 10:58.06 | dutchfish | jelly, and i agree that 2.6.32 was proposed as the valid candidate, not gone argue that |
| 10:58.12 | cobra-the-joker | hey guys ...how can i install apache ( webServer on my machine ) ? |
| 10:58.15 | dutchfish | jelly, thanks for your remark |
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| 10:58.36 | cobra-the-joker | su |
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| 10:59.19 | rgr | cobra-the-joker: learn how to use synaptic. |
| 10:59.41 | cobra-the-joker | rgr , i installed apache2 metapackage ...is that enough ? |
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| 11:00.21 | nettezzaumana | hmm. watching this board is sometimes acceptable only with eyes punched out |
| 11:00.44 | rgr | the full spectrum of apapche installation and web site ocnfiguration is discussed in a about 1000000 tutorials :-; Its not a question by question thing suitable for here IMO. Also there is a dedicated httpd #irc channel for that. |
| 11:00.46 | jezier | hi.. I need some guidance on how to build our custom version of "hal" package... we want it to be based on distribution package but with a couple of our custom patches... so that it provides the same packages like hal libhal etc for dependency ... what is the best way to achieve it? |
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| 11:01.28 | nettezzaumana | jezier: take a look for debian packagers manual |
| 11:01.37 | cobra-the-joker | rgr , i am asking a how to install on debian |
| 11:02.04 | rgr | synaptic. |
| 11:02.35 | nettezzaumana | cobra-the-joker: aaarrgh: apt-cache search apache |
| 11:02.38 | cobra-the-joker | i installed apache2 package ...httpd didnt work |
| 11:02.42 | jezier | nettezzaumana: well I read it already but I couldn't find how to do it (execpt how to make a new package from scratch)... are you sure that I need to read it one more time? :) |
| 11:02.47 | cobra-the-joker | i installed apache2 package ...httpd didnt work |
| 11:03.11 | nettezzaumana | jezier: pretty sure, and keep it reading until you'll understand |
| 11:03.15 | rgr | cobra-the-joker: I'm pretty sure youre trolling but ... what did you expect to see and what did not work? |
| 11:03.25 | jezier | nettezzaumana: ok.. will do :) |
| 11:03.58 | nettezzaumana | jezier: you can also download hal source package, investigate original switches, then you'd like to apply your patches & build |
| 11:04.04 | cobra-the-joker | rgr , i was expecting to see httpd working after i installed apache2 package |
| 11:04.11 | cobra-the-joker | and i am not trolling |
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| 11:04.24 | rgr | hwat do you mean "httpd working". Doing what? Did you configure any web? |
| 11:04.39 | rgr | Did the default work? |
| 11:04.51 | cobra-the-joker | bash: httpd: command not found |
| 11:04.53 | nettezzaumana | rgr: bloody hell .. he means that `pgrep httpd` gives nothing |
| 11:05.06 | rgr | nettezzaumana: no he doesnt. |
| 11:05.13 | jezier | nettezzaumana: yes... I did it already... but how to be sure that apt will always install my version (not that provided by distro, even if it is never version than mine) |
| 11:05.17 | nettezzaumana | cobra-the-joker: maaaahh .. dpkg -L $package |
| 11:05.30 | nettezzaumana | jezier: install it using dpkg |
| 11:05.38 | nettezzaumana | jezier: dpkg -i $somepackage |
| 11:05.50 | dutchfish | jezier, that can be done with hold or pinning |
| 11:05.54 | rgr | what does pidof apache2 give? |
| 11:06.18 | rgr | cobra-the-joker: what does "pidof apache2" give in a shell? |
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| 11:06.28 | cobra-the-joker | 3341 3340 3339 3338 3337 3315 |
| 11:06.36 | rgr | so its running. |
| 11:06.43 | jezier | nettezzaumana: but we have our "ppa" added to sources list... and we want it to override distributons (for a couple of packages.. for example hal) |
| 11:07.09 | cobra-the-joker | rgr , localhost is running |
| 11:07.13 | xyeveningdress | hello |
| 11:07.15 | jelly | cobra-the-joker: the process is not called httpd. You want to zless /usr/share/doc/apache2.2-common/README.Debian.gz |
| 11:07.21 | rgr | there is no httpd command that i am aware of contrary to what nettezzaumana said |
| 11:07.41 | xyeveningdress | How are your? |
| 11:07.50 | jezier | how about creating hal-ourversion which will provide "hal" and confilct with "hal" (the real one from distro) will it work? |
| 11:07.50 | cobra-the-joker | sorry for that ...i have been using fedora for a while ..and it was httpd to initialize the server |
| 11:08.09 | rgr | cobra-the-joker: it autostarts. The install setups init scripts forit. |
| 11:08.21 | sri_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:08.24 | nettezzaumana | jezier: sorry .. i am old-skulled debian user .. honestly i am not even regular debian user .. i'd like to choose in this case dpkg for installing custom package |
| 11:08.25 | cobra-the-joker | ok |
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| 11:08.46 | sri_ | any body know how to connect as /dev/ttyUSB0 |
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| 11:09.03 | nettezzaumana | sri_: gooogle ... man pppd |
| 11:09.08 | nettezzaumana | sri_: for example |
| 11:09.39 | jezier | nettezzaumana: well i'm gentoo user :| (or used to be... we're switching to debian) |
| 11:09.42 | rgr | cobra-the-joker: so now the "up to you" part of googling up how to configure it :-; The main issue you minught run into is permissions. but /etc/apache2/sites-available and sies-enabled is your starting point. its not that hard. Good luck. |
| 11:09.45 | dutchfish | jezier, a package cant confict with itself |
| 11:10.27 | cobra-the-joker | rgr , ok |
| 11:10.32 | dutchfish | jezier, so how you gone solve the other dep's when your packagename differs? |
| 11:10.34 | jezier | dutchfish: but how it is done with for example different versions of apache? mpm, prefork, etc? |
| 11:10.47 | nettezzaumana | jezier: well, i don't understand what are u expecting .. in short: dpkg, in lenght: use dpkg for installing custom packages |
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| 11:10.52 | dutchfish | jezier, by dif naming conventions |
| 11:11.12 | xyeveningdress | Hello |
| 11:11.13 | xyeveningdress | Nice to meet you. |
| 11:11.13 | xyeveningdress | This is Bill. |
| 11:11.13 | xyeveningdress | I am from in ChaoZhou China. |
| 11:11.13 | xyeveningdress | We are evening dress factory. |
| 11:11.13 | xyeveningdress | Our looking the wholesaler or shop cooperation |
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| 11:12.23 | dutchfish | thx |
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| 11:13.42 | jelly | dpkg, tell jezier about virtual package |
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| 11:13.46 | jezier | nettezzaumana: i'm expecting to have my version of some packages.. so that distribution won't overwrite it... if I use dpkg install to install my package will I be safe in the future updates of distribution version of this package? |
| 11:13.52 | dutchfish | jezier, i think the best option is to provide a virtual package |
| 11:13.56 | jelly | hell, tell dutchfish as well. |
| 11:13.59 | dutchfish | jelly, yes :) |
| 11:14.18 | jelly | !virtual package |
| 11:14.18 | dpkg | i guess virtual package is a package that doesn't really exist but represents a function which several real packages fulfill, which appears in the Provides control file field of another package. The effect is as if the package(s) which provide a particular virtual package name had been listed by name everywhere the virtual package name appears. To find which package(s) provide a foo virtual package, use $ apt-cache showpkg foo; |
| 11:14.26 | dutchfish | .coffee jelly |
| 11:15.27 | nettezzaumana | jezier: well, at first: deb is very stupid even if most of folks here think, that is the most advanced tool, imho you can't *lock some package |
| 11:15.43 | jezier | dutchfish: yes.. this is what I'm thinking about.. but.. is there any guide how to do it? or shuould i just look for how it is done in other virtual packages ? |
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| 11:16.15 | dutchfish | jezier, as a starter yes, but there are tutors out there |
| 11:17.55 | jezier | dutchfish, nettezzaumana .. thx.. i'll start googling it |
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| 11:18.39 | jelly | !tell jezier -about hold |
| 11:19.10 | jelly | if you only do a small number of rebuilds/patches, there's no need to get all complicated |
| 11:19.41 | fireba11 | if i got a script in cron.d where would i get error messages logged? it doesn't seem to work as expected |
| 11:19.46 | jezier | jelly: thx for keywords to look for :) ... but dpkg could paste some links to read more about it :p |
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| 11:20.44 | dutchfish | jezier, http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-virtual |
| 11:24.58 | abou_7anash_009 | hi all I am trying to execute a file...it exists in the dir when I try to execute it I get file not found please see http://pastebin.ca/1715539 |
| 11:25.09 | dutchfish | jezier, there is another way also |
| 11:25.21 | dutchfish | jezier, by using you own repo: http://people.connexer.com/~roberto/howtos/debrepository |
| 11:25.46 | dutchfish | jezier, but it depends on the size of your project what to choose |
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| 11:30.17 | fluxdude | my user crontab on my debian workstation is not running for some reason. Any ideas why? |
| 11:30.21 | fluxdude | there is nothing in the logs |
| 11:30.27 | fluxdude | other cron stuff seems to run |
| 11:30.31 | fluxdude | according to the logs |
| 11:30.38 | fluxdude | the format is correct I am sure |
| 11:30.54 | cast | do other users crontabs run? |
| 11:31.01 | fluxdude | I've checked for allow users etc but there are none so this shouldn't be restricted |
| 11:31.05 | fluxdude | i am the only user on this box |
| 11:32.43 | jezier | dutchfish: we have our repo but only with those packages which we change or created from scratch.. is there any way to tell in sources.list that our repo "overrides" distribution repo? so that if there is package with the same name in our repository it will use only ours (not from distro) |
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| 11:33.33 | dutchfish | jezier, not on the repo side, but you can do that on the clients |
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| 11:37.43 | MrTorque | i followed http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions how do i install samba then? |
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| 11:38.28 | MrTorque | ahm... got it |
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| 11:40.11 | dutchfish | jezier, you not only can pin on a package but also give higher privilidges to your own repository: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html |
| 11:40.57 | dutchfish | jezier, once setup, this comes in handy when you have a big project with lots of changes |
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| 11:41.32 | jezier | dutchfish: nice! that is what I need... at least looks like it :) |
| 11:41.48 | SteveHH | hallo |
| 11:42.34 | dutchfish | jezier, but rem, you should take trake of all the dependecies yourself in that repo ;) |
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| 11:43.25 | stefanha | Is xpdf in Debian testing? packages.debian.org search for packages containing the filename "xpdf" does not find it but searching for the package by name finds it. I cannot find it from aptitude. |
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| 11:44.57 | dutchfish | jezier, also take a good look at preferences.d for your own modifications of the apt repo, this will preserve you own stuff on large debian updates/upgrades |
| 11:45.10 | dutchfish | jezier, good luck |
| 11:45.13 | jezier | dutchfish: will do :) |
| 11:45.16 | jezier | dutchfish: thx |
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| 11:47.20 | doubleclick | mornirng |
| 11:48.34 | MrTorque | i need a good how-to for samba and win vista and win7, and one for ldap. Any good links? |
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| 11:49.22 | f00li5h[HireMe] | say, does anyone know of an application to controll pesky apirport stations (ideally as a shell scriptable critter)? |
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| 11:58.21 | rgr | stefanha: yes |
| 11:59.13 | rgr | sudo aptitude install xpdf |
| 11:59.29 | rgr | strange you say your system cant find it. Its nto "non free" is it? |
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| 12:00.26 | nkuttler | xpdf? no |
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| 12:01.24 | stefanha | rgr: deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
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| 12:02.08 | stefanha | rgr: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/xpdf <--- notice it has no source package, xpdf-reader is not available, and there is only an all architectures package... something is odd. |
| 12:02.29 | stefanha | I don't understand why that is. Any ideas? |
| 12:02.47 | rgr | none. I use squeeze and I have it. Sorry. |
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| 12:03.03 | rgr | but evince is better anway :-; |
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| 12:03.50 | rgr | btw xpdf-reader is a package not a program. The program is xpdf. |
| 12:04.26 | rgr | the xpdf package is all you need |
| 12:05.19 | rgr | but hmm, I see what you mean. It pulls in xpdf-reader I see in my dependencies. maybe its a temporary squeeze glitch? |
| 12:05.22 | stefanha | rgr: Yes, the "xpdf-reader" is just another oddity on the page that I am pointing out. |
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| 12:05.24 | dutchfish | xpdf has been removed: http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xpdf.html |
| 12:05.32 | stefanha | dutchfish: thank you |
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| 12:06.03 | stefanha | "This package has been orphaned, but someone intends to maintain it." |
| 12:06.05 | stefanha | I see |
| 12:06.18 | nkuttler | oh wow |
| 12:06.24 | nkuttler | i hope so |
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| 12:07.11 | rgr | I dont know why anyone would use it to be honest. evince is much nicer but possibly too gnome centric for some. |
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| 12:07.59 | stefanha | Thanks for your help dutchfish and rgr. Next time I'll know to check the packages qa site. |
| 12:08.09 | dutchfish | stefanha, yw |
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| 12:08.20 | rootmos | anyone has a suggestion on a soundcard that works with lenny and has spdif? |
| 12:08.28 | nkuttler | rgr: some people don't like to pull in megabytes of dependencies or fill their ram with gtk/qt whaterver |
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| 12:19.38 | andy5635353 | yesterday i could access my mysql server on debian, now it is giving me access denied!! what can i do to repair the database?? |
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| 12:21.22 | rgr | nkuttler: as I said. Perhaps too gnome centric. |
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| 12:24.51 | ethanol | andy5635353: it doesn't just "break overnight" |
| 12:24.55 | ethanol | andy5635353: what did you screw up? |
| 12:25.09 | andy5635353 | nothing, it was working yesterday |
| 12:25.16 | ethanol | then it is working still |
| 12:25.28 | andy5635353 | now it wont start or stop properly in the bootup |
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| 12:25.41 | ethanol | then something has changed. |
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| 12:26.50 | andy5635353 | yea, but yesterday it was fine, now it gives access denied for mysql and postgres db |
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| 12:27.19 | ethanol | dude |
| 12:27.32 | ethanol | your system doesn't change overnight and decides to screw up permissions or change passwords |
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| 12:27.43 | andy5635353 | i know |
| 12:27.56 | ethanol | pastebin your terminal output |
| 12:28.10 | andy5635353 | for what command? |
| 12:28.16 | ethanol | startup, etc |
| 12:28.37 | andy5635353 | ok, where is that to be found? |
| 12:28.44 | ethanol | what do you mean? |
| 12:28.52 | ethanol | /etc/init.d/mysql start |
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| 12:30.07 | andy5635353 | http://pastebin.com/m616def6e |
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| 12:44.32 | stefanha | sri_: Some USB devices have a "driver disk" that is exposed. It may be necessary to poke the USB device in software to get it to expose the modem interface. It depends on your device. |
| 12:44.32 | dutchfish | sepult, i dont know much about emacs, but that segfault smells like not thread safe code |
| 12:44.32 | jelly | sri_: if you unplug it and plug it back again, does it still appear as cdrom? |
| 12:44.32 | jelly | judd: info usb-modeswitch |
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| 12:44.32 | jelly | judd: info usb-modeswitch --release testing |
| 12:44.32 | judd | jelly: usb-modeswitch (comm): is extra; Version: 1.0.5-1; Size: 31.2k; Installed: 296k -- mode switching tool for controlling "flip flop" USB devices |
| 12:44.32 | jelly | judd: versions usb-modeswitch |
| 12:44.32 | judd | jelly: usb-modeswitch -- sid: 1.0.5-1 squeeze: 1.0.5-1 |
| 12:44.33 | jelly | eh, no backport |
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| 12:44.33 | ethanol | heh, nice broadcasts |
| 12:44.33 | doubleclick | not very nice i guess.. |
| 12:45.25 | ethanol | persona: some connectivity issues. personb: massive ddos. |
| 12:45.36 | sri_ | always it is connected as CDROM |
| 12:45.43 | doubleclick | ethanol: :) |
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| 12:46.36 | jelly | sri_: you can try backporting and using that usb-modeswitch tool. |
| 12:47.10 | doubleclick | ethanol: what's next? personc: nuclear blast persond: end of ze world ;) |
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| 12:47.30 | sri_ | yah... i tried usb_modeswitch command... but the device does not switching to usb mode |
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| 12:50.08 | AljosHa | Hello, here is my problem with partitions what ISP gived me, can i fix this anyhow , http://www.pastebin.ca/1715635 this md1 partition to enlarge? |
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| 12:51.48 | ethanol | doubleclick: but I am le tired! |
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| 12:52.51 | TIMiDo | any mutt gurus around? |
| 12:53.02 | TIMiDo | that can help me out since mutt is dead |
| 12:53.06 | TIMiDo | the channel i mean |
| 12:53.07 | jelly | !ask |
| 12:53.07 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 12:53.39 | TIMiDo | how can i configure mutt to use my pgp key on my mails |
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| 12:53.43 | TIMiDo | everytime i send them |
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| 12:54.06 | sri_ | how to create the Driver disk |
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| 12:54.36 | jelly | TIMiDo: you have have properly configured gnupg with a default private key? |
| 12:54.49 | TIMiDo | yes i have |
| 12:56.52 | jelly | TIMiDo: well then, I guess you'd just need to set some of those crypt_auto* vars |
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| 12:56.54 | TIMiDo | ? |
| 12:56.54 | jelly | have you already taken a look at man muttrc? |
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| 12:57.48 | jelly | Does manual signing at the send screen work? |
| 12:57.54 | TIMiDo | nope jelly |
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| 12:59.03 | jelly | how does it fail? |
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| 13:00.24 | TIMiDo | jelly, it just does not show in my email when i want to send email i don't see my pgp key on it |
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| 13:01.40 | HackeMate | how to install a font file? |
| 13:01.47 | HackeMate | just copying it to the fonts directory? |
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| 13:02.40 | TIMiDo | HackeMate, just copy them to .fonts |
| 13:03.01 | HackeMate | i only have .fontconfig |
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| 13:03.04 | HackeMate | is the same i guess |
| 13:03.12 | jelly | TIMiDo: before you send the mail, when you press p (for pgp-menu), do you get the menu and are you able to tell mutt to do eg. signing? |
| 13:03.22 | TIMiDo | let me see |
| 13:03.57 | jelly | first get manual pgp working, then we'll see about automatic |
| 13:04.31 | TIMiDo | oh nice |
| 13:04.32 | TIMiDo | got it |
| 13:04.33 | TIMiDo | ty |
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| 13:05.12 | sri_ | Xchat is only for Ubuntu or any other distros??? |
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| 13:05.24 | jelly | judd: versions xchat |
| 13:05.24 | judd | jelly: xchat -- etch: 2.6.8-0.3 lenny: 2.8.6-2.1 sid: 2.8.6-4 squeeze: 2.8.6-4 |
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| 13:06.25 | jelly | sri_: the bot says it's present in all curent debian releases. |
| 13:06.35 | sepult | anyone who can help me on this http://paste.debian.net/54059/ |
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| 13:06.59 | TIMiDo | jelly, i have a question how can i put my password set up already so i don't have to put my pass phrase everytime i want to send an email |
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| 13:07.18 | jelly | TIMiDo: you'll want to use a gpg-agent of some sort |
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| 13:07.31 | TIMiDo | jelly, can you give me an example? |
| 13:07.32 | TIMiDo | please |
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| 13:07.55 | jelly | TIMiDo: I can't. If you're using Gnome, it can provide that functionality as well. |
| 13:08.13 | TIMiDo | i'm using xfce4 |
| 13:08.17 | TIMiDo | and fluxbox i use |
| 13:08.21 | TIMiDo | but not gnome |
| 13:08.29 | jelly | TIMiDo: I guess you can install gnupg-agent and rtfm |
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| 13:31.01 | spiekey | Hello! |
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| 13:31.16 | spiekey | are the kernel (sources) and compiler stuff on the debian cd? |
| 13:31.34 | spiekey | i need to install it from cd since i need to build my nic driver from source :-( |
| 13:32.04 | Titan8990 | spiekey, you should never have to build anything from source |
| 13:32.07 | jelly | !cd contents |
| 13:32.07 | dpkg | To find out what is on what disk, use the searchable index at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search or download the .jigdo template from the same location and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the disk. |
| 13:32.07 | Titan8990 | !kmuto |
| 13:32.08 | dpkg | For Debian Lenny (or Etch) installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ . The included <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files in 0627 images are required to be moved prior to network hardware detection, see comments of http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2630-lenny.htm |
| 13:32.24 | spiekey | Titan8990, my network card is too new |
| 13:32.30 | jelly | spiekey: which driver (which card (which pciid))? |
| 13:32.37 | Titan8990 | spiekey, read the factoid above |
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| 13:33.26 | spiekey | the new igb from HP Proliant |
| 13:33.49 | spiekey | i need some 2.6.28 Kernel...the 2.6.26 does now have the correct igb driver version |
| 13:34.40 | jelly | spiekey: Titan8990 has pointed you to installer images that have 2.6.30. |
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| 13:35.05 | spiekey | !kmuto |
| 13:35.05 | dpkg | For Debian Lenny (or Etch) installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ . The included <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files in 0627 images are required to be moved prior to network hardware detection, see comments of http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/debian/d-i-2630-lenny.htm |
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| 13:36.22 | jelly | is that a G6 proliant? My G3 ... G5 have always had either tg3 or bnx2-driven onboard cards |
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| 13:39.14 | spiekey | jelly: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=522922 |
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| 13:47.30 | MrTorque | i do have an ip from router, but no connection to the internet. What's wrong there? |
| 13:48.17 | MrTorque | other machine (connected to same router) has internet... i did only configure samba, iptables is empty, what could it be? |
| 13:48.18 | remoteCTRL | the-dude: still there? |
| 13:48.32 | Titan8990 | MrTorque, dns? default route? |
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| 13:49.13 | spiekey | jelly: the installer gets stuck saying something about kdb and console resolution... |
| 13:49.15 | MrTorque | Titan8990: default route. route looks good to me. |
| 13:49.18 | MrTorque | should i pastebin? |
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| 13:49.46 | Titan8990 | you can but I have no idea how your network is set up |
| 13:50.43 | MrTorque | several PCs --> router --> internet |
| 13:50.56 | MrTorque | Titan8990: it worked, two hours ago! |
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| 13:51.26 | MrTorque | http://pastebin.ca/1715678 |
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| 13:52.28 | Titan8990 | MrTorque, can you ping the gateway? |
| 13:52.34 | Titan8990 | MrTorque, can you ping 4.2.2.1? |
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| 13:52.49 | MrTorque | i can ping 192.168.2.1 (my router) |
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| 13:54.10 | MrTorque | Titan8990: jap, i can ping 4.2.2.1 |
| 13:54.15 | MrTorque | but i can not ping google.com |
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| 13:54.33 | MrTorque | so there is something wrong with the domain name resolution? |
| 13:54.44 | simonrvn | i would say so |
| 13:54.52 | MrTorque | how do i fix this? |
| 13:54.54 | Titan8990 | MrTorque, /etc/resolv.conf is not properly configured |
| 13:55.24 | MrTorque | Titan8990: i have one entry there: nameserver 192.168.2.1 |
| 13:55.28 | simonrvn | /etc/resolv.conf |
| 13:55.52 | Titan8990 | MrTorque, then it sounds like your router isn't properly forwarding dns requests, use a different nameserver |
| 13:56.40 | MrTorque | Titan8990: but it already worked and it works for other pcs right at the moment. |
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| 13:57.02 | Titan8990 | MrTorque, alright... then don't do anything |
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| 13:57.42 | MrTorque | Titan8990: i was configuring samba, could that be the reason? |
| 13:57.47 | Titan8990 | MrTorque, no |
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| 13:59.52 | jeroen_h | Does anyone know if it's possible to make the broadcom bcm5716 work in lenny, with a xen kernel? |
| 13:59.56 | MrTorque | Titan8990: so, okay, i write down a new nameserver and then? |
| 14:00.00 | jeroen_h | so a backport kernel is out of the question I guess |
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| 14:00.26 | Titan8990 | MrTorque, yeah, test with 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 or something |
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| 14:01.32 | RichiH | 141.1.1.1 |
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| 14:01.41 | MrTorque | Titan8990: i added a new nameserver in the resolv.conf, so how do i update? |
| 14:01.42 | RichiH | c&w has been offering this for ages |
| 14:02.03 | Titan8990 | MrTorque, its effective immediately |
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| 14:02.48 | bittin__ | can't it just be that iam missing some xmouse package? |
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| 14:03.15 | MrTorque | Titan8990: didn't work. |
| 14:03.24 | MrTorque | any other ip for the nameserver? |
| 14:03.35 | the-dude | remoteCTRL: yes :) |
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| 14:04.27 | bittin__ | i cant use any other res then 800x600 and i dont see my mouse pointer what can be wrong? |
| 14:04.33 | Titan8990 | MrTorque, you added one nameserver per line starting with "nameserver"? |
| 14:04.46 | Titan8990 | bittin__, your running squeeze with sid xorg |
| 14:04.55 | bittin__ | yes, how do i fix that? |
| 14:04.56 | MrTorque | yes |
| 14:05.11 | Titan8990 | bittin__, imo, start over with lenny and do things the right way |
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| 14:05.23 | bittin__ | :( |
| 14:05.43 | Titan8990 | MrTorque, kill the dhcp client, configure networking manually, try again |
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| 14:06.27 | bittin__ | Titan8990: do i really need to do it that way? |
| 14:06.35 | bittin__ | can't i just reinstall right Xorg |
| 14:06.48 | Titan8990 | you will still be running squeeze |
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| 14:06.54 | Titan8990 | and you still won't have a clue on what your doing |
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| 14:07.17 | bittin__ | Titan8990: i will |
| 14:07.30 | MrTorque | Titan8990: i did kill dhclient (ps aux | grep dhclient) and restarted with dhclient eth0... still not working |
| 14:07.37 | Titan8990 | bittin__, if you did, you probably wouldn't be running squeeze |
| 14:07.50 | Titan8990 | MrTorque, no, the point was to element dhcp as the problem, not use it again |
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| 14:08.09 | bittin__ | Titan8990: testing got newer and better packages |
| 14:08.12 | bittin__ | so there is a reason |
| 14:08.12 | Titan8990 | MrTorque, kill it again and reconfigure using ifconfig, route and re-edit resolv.conf |
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| 14:08.15 | Titan8990 | !sns |
| 14:08.15 | dpkg | it has been said that sns syndrome is a serious disorder otherwise known as Shiny New Shite Syndrome usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. Slashdot readers are more likely than others to contract the condition. |
| 14:08.38 | Titan8990 | bittin__, use a distro that is oriented towards bleeding-edge, not the testing build of a distro that isn't |
| 14:08.59 | remoteCTRL | the-dude: i was able to fix it |
| 14:09.04 | bittin__ | i actully like Debian |
| 14:09.17 | NoReflex | Hello! I was looking for some info about traffic shaping in Linux. Can I for example prioritize apache over other processes? For example let other processes use as much bandwidth as they can but if someone requests a page from apache let apache have the bandwidth it needs. Can something like that be done with tc from iproute2? |
| 14:09.24 | MrTorque | Titan8990: does that work if i only have ssh connection to the machine?? |
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| 14:10.02 | the-dude | remoteCTRL: how did you fix it ? |
| 14:10.17 | Titan8990 | MrTorque, i would have expected it to kill the session whenever you killed the dhcp client |
| 14:10.23 | Titan8990 | MrTorque, but then again, i don't use dhcp |
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| 14:10.34 | bittin__ | i will just reinstall Squezze Xorg and see if that fixes the problem |
| 14:10.39 | remoteCTRL | the-dude: erm... i removed the quotes-.- |
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| 14:11.16 | remoteCTRL | the-dude: don't ask me how those slipped in there but of course those were the problem... |
| 14:11.18 | JucaBlues | where is the best place to propose new features to the apt package manager? |
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| 14:11.50 | abrotman | JucaBlues: BTS, wishlist bug |
| 14:12.01 | abrotman | JucaBlues: but what feature? |
| 14:12.09 | remoteCTRL | JucaBlues: http://deb-usability.alioth.debian.org/pkgman-brainstorm.html |
| 14:12.17 | JucaBlues | remoteCTRL: thanks |
| 14:12.23 | remoteCTRL | JucaBlues: np:) |
| 14:12.29 | JucaBlues | abrotman: I use Trisquel |
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| 14:12.48 | abrotman | and ? |
| 14:12.51 | JucaBlues | and sometimes there are packages that are not available in the repositories due to non-free status |
| 14:13.02 | abrotman | remoteCTRL: that link is for something that already happened ... |
| 14:13.23 | JucaBlues | but I think that it is too hard to figure out the exact reason for each package |
| 14:13.32 | remoteCTRL | abrotman: is it? how do you know? |
| 14:13.35 | abrotman | you mean why each package is in unstable |
| 14:13.40 | JucaBlues | so I would like to propose that this information be stored in the repositories |
| 14:13.48 | abrotman | remoteCTRL: at the top where it says "this is a transcript" ? |
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| 14:14.00 | abrotman | JucaBlues: like the copyright file? |
| 14:14.10 | the-dude | remoteCTRL: ah ok nice :) |
| 14:14.10 | JucaBlues | and I would like to have an "apt why" command for easily displaying this info for the user |
| 14:14.23 | simonrvn | try aptitude ... |
| 14:14.24 | abrotman | JucaBlues: aptitude why/why-not already exist |
| 14:14.31 | JucaBlues | great! |
| 14:14.33 | JucaBlues | thanks |
| 14:14.39 | abrotman | but you're asking about copyright issues, correct? |
| 14:14.44 | remoteCTRL | abrotman: ermm.. i dunno it also says taking place not took and there is a link to the devel list also in the first sentence... forgive me if i pasted something useless tho... |
| 14:14.48 | JucaBlues | any issue |
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| 14:14.55 | JucaBlues | it could be issues with patents also |
| 14:15.14 | JucaBlues | anything that is the reason for the distro not shipping certain packages |
| 14:15.17 | abrotman | JucaBlues: the aptitude why/why-not in Debian (not sure about your distro) show why the package is/cannot be installed |
| 14:15.40 | JucaBlues | thanks, I'll try that |
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| 14:16.29 | WhiteCrow1 | hi guy's |
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| 14:17.09 | JucaBlues | why and why-not are used to tracking dependency issues |
| 14:17.22 | WhiteCrow1 | if i want new packet how can i do in debian lenny ? |
| 14:17.23 | simonrvn | yes, and very helpful |
| 14:17.26 | JucaBlues | I want something to list reasons for package removal from repositories |
| 14:17.38 | JucaBlues | or package unavailability |
| 14:17.40 | Titan8990 | WhiteCrow1, new packet? |
| 14:17.42 | Vivek | recently I have purchased Dell studio 15, I hv loaded Debian Lenny 5.0 but my graphics is giving only one mode ie 1024:768....How can I increase its resolution? |
| 14:17.44 | beardy | !why is something not in testing |
| 14:17.44 | dpkg | something is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=something |
| 14:17.52 | simonrvn | Titan8990: probably 'package' |
| 14:18.25 | JucaBlues | such as "this package was removed in march 2007 due to licencing restrictions in the source file blah.cpp that render it a non-free package" |
| 14:18.26 | simonrvn | Titan8990: they say 'paquet' in french |
| 14:18.44 | WhiteCrow1 | Titan8990: hi i want new ver of packet software (sorry for my EN i can't speak EN very will but i understand a little ) |
| 14:18.52 | Vivek | xrandr command is giving only giving one resolution that is 1024:768 |
| 14:18.54 | JucaBlues | "see the whole reasoning at http://blah.org/..." |
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| 14:19.16 | simonrvn | JucaBlues: debian changelog |
| 14:19.33 | simonrvn | like abrotman said like 5 minutes ago |
| 14:20.25 | abrotman | and he's not using Debian anyways ... |
| 14:20.35 | simonrvn | that's his problem :P |
| 14:20.53 | Titan8990 | !tell WhiteCrow1 about ssb |
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| 14:20.55 | WhiteCrow1 | Titan8990: All of packet in repository debian lenny is to old how can i do if i want new ver of that ? |
| 14:21.00 | JucaBlues | !why is vlc not in testing |
| 14:21.00 | dpkg | vlc is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=vlc |
| 14:21.05 | boch | anyone running debian on dell mini 10 ?? |
| 14:21.09 | Titan8990 | WhiteCrow1, check your pm from dpkg |
| 14:21.09 | simonrvn | no |
| 14:21.18 | Titan8990 | WhiteCrow1, and what is too old btw? |
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| 14:21.45 | simonrvn | !sns |
| 14:21.45 | dpkg | sns syndrome is, like, a serious disorder otherwise known as Shiny New Shite Syndrome usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. Slashdot readers are more likely than others to contract the condition. |
| 14:22.15 | WhiteCrow1 | Titan8990: ok i see dpkg and what's mean btw :) ? |
| 14:22.27 | abrotman | WhiteCrow1: what's your native language ? |
| 14:22.29 | Titan8990 | WhiteCrow1, by the way |
| 14:23.33 | WhiteCrow1 | abrotman: can i dont answer ? |
| 14:23.50 | abrotman | hopes it's not english ... |
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| 14:24.15 | simonrvn | it's not |
| 14:25.06 | abrotman | WhiteCrow1: you didn't have to msg me that .. i was just wondering if there might be a channel in your native language |
| 14:25.09 | Titan8990 | IP shows to iran |
| 14:25.29 | abrotman | yeah .. i was asking him so that he might be forthcoming .. but anyways .. |
| 14:25.56 | abrotman | WhiteCrow1: please stop msging me |
| 14:25.58 | jelly | wonders is there's a debian-pe[rsi] channel |
| 14:26.05 | jelly | if* |
| 14:26.07 | MrTorque | could the winbindd be the problem? |
| 14:26.26 | WhiteCrow1 | abrotman: ok sorry |
| 14:26.26 | Titan8990 | MrTorque, possibly, thats for linking it active directory, correct? |
| 14:26.29 | abrotman | WhiteCrow1: anyways .. which packages are out of date ? |
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| 14:26.52 | MrTorque | Titan8990: what do you mean? |
| 14:27.16 | Titan8990 | MrTorque, IIRC winbind is used so that your samba users can be authenticated to a windows active directory server |
| 14:27.18 | WhiteCrow1 | abrotman: if i understand u mean i want new packages of java |
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| 14:27.40 | abrotman | WhiteCrow1: lenny has Java6 already |
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| 14:27.49 | simonrvn | winbind is also used for host resolution |
| 14:28.07 | Titan8990 | and there is probably your dns issue |
| 14:28.09 | simonrvn | handles WINS crap IIRC |
| 14:28.10 | MrTorque | so it could screw up my name resolution? |
| 14:28.21 | MrTorque | how do i fix it? |
| 14:28.24 | simonrvn | it's only for windows hosts AFAIK |
| 14:28.40 | WhiteCrow1 | abrotman: i want java VER 1.6.0-13 or latter |
| 14:28.50 | abrotman | judd: versions sun-java6-jdk |
| 14:28.50 | Titan8990 | MrTorque, don't use winbind? should be unnecessary |
| 14:28.51 | judd | abrotman: sun-java6-jdk -- etch-backports/non-free: 6-07-3~bpo40+1 lenny/non-free: 6-12-1 squeeze/non-free: 6-16-1 sid/non-free: 6-17-1 |
| 14:29.16 | MrTorque | Titan8990: killing the process didn't solve my problem. |
| 14:29.20 | abrotman | MrTorque: what are you asking ? |
| 14:29.55 | MrTorque | abrotman: i can ping ips in the internet but not by their name (like google.de). i am trying to fix it. |
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| 14:30.29 | abrotman | MrTorque: and your DNS works fine ? |
| 14:30.36 | abrotman | and your /etc/nsswitch.conf is fine ? |
| 14:30.49 | abrotman | tries to remember if ping uses nsswitch |
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| 14:31.18 | MrTorque | abrotman: i believe my dns works fine since other machines go into internet with the same router. |
| 14:31.30 | MrTorque | how does a good nsswitch look? |
| 14:31.32 | abrotman | that doesn't mean the DNS for that machine is correct |
| 14:31.46 | simonrvn | it doesn't no |
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| 14:31.48 | abrotman | MrTorque: that depends .. |
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| 14:32.02 | abrotman | hosts: files dns wins winbind |
| 14:32.11 | simonrvn | oh wait it might, for hosts lookups |
| 14:32.13 | abrotman | is what a machine on a LAN might have |
| 14:32.24 | MrTorque | abrotman: mine looks like that: http://pastebin.ca/1715712 |
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| 14:32.26 | abrotman | or take out the wins/winbind |
| 14:32.28 | simonrvn | checks |
| 14:32.37 | abrotman | MrTorque: why did you break it? |
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| 14:32.55 | abrotman | MrTorque: your should probably say "host files wins dns" |
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| 14:33.05 | abrotman | erm .. "hosts: files wins dns" |
| 14:33.21 | abrotman | switch dns/wins around to add flavor |
| 14:33.24 | simonrvn | it does, e.g. open("/lib/libnss_files.so.2", O_RDONLY) = 4 |
| 14:33.36 | simonrvn | connect(4, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/var/run/nscd/socket"...}, 110) = 0 |
| 14:33.44 | MrTorque | abrotman: i remember.. i was setting up samba according to http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-Guide/small.html and they told to do it... some hours later the internet was gone :) |
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| 14:34.07 | simonrvn | that's when i was pinging a hostname |
| 14:34.22 | MrTorque | thanks abrotman |
| 14:34.27 | MrTorque | and thanks Titan8990 |
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| 14:35.15 | bittin__ | does anyone know how i downgrade Xorg in Debian? |
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| 14:35.36 | WhiteCrow1 | tnx guy's and bye |
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| 14:35.42 | abrotman | bittin__: you don't ? |
| 14:36.07 | Titan8990 | bittin__, not cross posting in oftc |
| 14:36.07 | bittin__ | abrotman: how do i do then if i got a problem with Xorg? |
| 14:36.10 | Titan8990 | err stop |
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| 14:36.25 | Titan8990 | bittin__, you never run squeeze in the first place |
| 14:36.33 | bittin__ | :o |
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| 14:37.07 | abrotman | bittin__: what about your xorg is broken? |
| 14:37.10 | lmaowaffle | Hi guys, I'm running squeeze atm. I'm contemplating downgrading to lenny. What's the best way to accomplish this? Ideally, I'd like to doa side by side comparison of versions of applications I have installed now with that offered by lenny |
| 14:37.20 | beardy | !downgrade |
| 14:37.20 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdn>. |
| 14:37.23 | beardy | Can't, don't. |
| 14:37.28 | bittin__ | abrotman: i only can get it to show 800x600 if i choose more it dosent show my mouse pointer |
| 14:37.40 | abrotman | bittin__: which video card is it ? |
| 14:37.46 | lmaowaffle | beardy: should I just stick with Squeeze? |
| 14:37.48 | bittin__ | abrotman: how do i see that? |
| 14:38.04 | bittin__ | its the orginal in the eeepc 900HD |
| 14:38.22 | abrotman | bittin__: sounds like something else is wrong .. like it's using some virtual size |
| 14:38.31 | abrotman | lmaowaffle: or reinstall .. downgrade not supported |
| 14:38.33 | beardy | lmaowaffle: If that is what you want to run. Otherwise you shouldn't have upgraded. |
| 14:38.45 | lmaowaffle | beardy: I started off with Squeeze |
| 14:38.53 | lmaowaffle | debootstrap install |
| 14:38.59 | bittin__ | abrotman: my eeepc is connected to a VGA Screen |
| 14:39.10 | abrotman | bittin__: did you try xrandr to change the screen size? |
| 14:39.13 | bittin__ | abrotman: nope |
| 14:39.16 | bittin__ | tried lxrandr |
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| 14:39.26 | bittin__ | as i dont know how to use xrandr |
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| 14:39.55 | bittin__ | also how do you scroll up in a framebuffer? i don't remember |
| 14:39.57 | abrotman | it's pretty simple |
| 14:40.05 | abrotman | !eeepc |
| 14:40.05 | dpkg | The Eee PC (aka RM Asus Minibook) is a <netbook> designed by Asus. Linux models are supplied with <Xandros> which is not supported in #debian, join #eeepc on irc.freenode.net for support. To install Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC for installation and configuration details. See also <atl2>, <atl1e>, <rt2860 eee>, <atl1c>. Mailing list: http://alioth.debian.org/mail/?group_id=31309 #debian-eeepc on irc.oftc.net. |
| 14:40.40 | bittin__ | abrotman: :( |
| 14:40.53 | abrotman | bittin__: it just sounds misconfigured, not broken |
| 14:41.18 | bittin__ | abrotman: yea it is, but i dont know what i should reconfigure |
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| 14:41.39 | bittin__ | its some Intel gfxcard |
| 14:41.51 | abrotman | bittin__: so using lxrandr, you can't change the resolution ? |
| 14:42.06 | bittin__ | abrotman: i can and it changes but my mouse pointer diseppers |
| 14:42.17 | bittin__ | and the graphics are being on the half screen |
| 14:42.49 | bittin__ | but i can move the mousepointer but can't see it |
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| 14:43.46 | abrotman | bittin__: i'd ask the #debian-eeepc people on irc.oftc.net .. it's a pretty common machine, might just be an xorg.conf to pass |
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| 15:01.55 | beerkid | Repeating this because of the split...if i'm getting a permission error when trying to drag n drop files to a web server directory, would that mean i would need to go and set up a virtual host or is there an easier way? |
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| 15:02.22 | Titan8990 | beerkid, filesystem permissions have nothing to do with apache virtual hosts |
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| 15:03.51 | beerkid | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:04.22 | beerkid | I tried chmod 755 /var/www/apache2-directory before coming in here to ask but it didnt work |
| 15:04.47 | Titan8990 | beerkid, webdav is for filesharing over HTTP, is that what your trying to do? |
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| 15:05.25 | beerkid | No, I'm just trying to get control of my web server |
| 15:05.41 | Compiler-Work | when I use apt-get with --trivial-only, can I be sure it doesn't ask the user any questions and instead answers them with no? Also, what exactly are the "trivial" operations? |
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| 15:06.15 | Titan8990 | beerkid, well, i usually manage my webserver as the root user. im sure there is a better way to do it, but I would just add your user to the www-data group |
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| 15:06.55 | lmaowaffle | beerkid: that was me (webdav) |
| 15:07.09 | lmaowaffle | but it sounds like you only need write permissions for the particular user |
| 15:07.33 | lmaowaffle | I'd thought you meant drag/drop via web browser, not file browser |
| 15:08.21 | beerkid | oh, no, thats ok. i did try to do the install for webdav but I ran into an issue along the way so I couldnt get that to work either :/ |
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| 15:08.27 | beerkid | But this is whats important |
| 15:08.29 | z0rc[w0rk] | http://pastebin.org/65175 â fresh squeeze amd64 instalation. unable to start bind9 |
| 15:08.29 | i37net | hi there, how do i check which version of apache is installed on my debian lenny? |
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| 15:09.51 | lmaowaffle | i37net: apt-show-versions apache |
| 15:10.49 | lmaowaffle | or apache2 |
| 15:10.49 | jelly | i37net: /usr/sbin/apache2 -V; or dpkg -l apache2\*; or /msg dpkg version |
| 15:10.59 | i37net | thanks. |
| 15:11.58 | beerkid | what would be the command to add user to www-data? trying to Google but not finding anything yet |
| 15:12.36 | jelly | beerkid: a) why do you want to do that? b) man adduser |
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| 15:12.59 | lmaowaffle | beerkid: addgroup <user> <group> |
| 15:13.10 | jelly | beerkid: note especially the _adduser [options] user group_ syntax |
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| 15:14.08 | Titan8990 | jelly, because I saw him ask a few times without reply and I didn't know the proper way to give a user access to alter files in the webserver hierarchy |
| 15:14.32 | cavedon | hi, let's say I mantain package P, which segfauts because of an upstream bug in library L. I debug L and create a patch. Am I supposed to open a bug on the Debian package, upstream, or both? |
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| 15:14.48 | Titan8990 | jelly, so I mentioned a quick, but likely improper way for getting it done |
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| 15:15.56 | beerkid | so group would be www-data? |
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| 15:16.33 | beerkid | i just did addgroup <user that I use to log on computer> www-data |
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| 15:16.59 | beerkid | should I expect to be able to immediately move the file over? Because I still get the error |
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| 15:18.38 | Titan8990 | beerkid, you have to logout and log back in when adding a user to a group |
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| 15:18.48 | lmaowaffle | beerkid: log out and in for it to take effect |
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| 15:19.29 | beerkid | ok i will do that |
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| 15:19.42 | gypsymauro | hi |
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| 15:21.38 | gypsymauro | the local syslog says: Dec 15 16:55:53 localhost postgres[21692]: [2-1] LOG: connection received: host=192.168.1.97 port=44678 |
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| 15:24.18 | beerkid | logged out but still getting permission error |
| 15:24.35 | xaashi | hi, anyone know how use live helper to create an image from a filesystem, i.e. created with debootstrap |
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| 15:25.27 | Titan8990 | xaashi, tar? |
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| 15:26.06 | BleSS | is possible to use named pipes as RPC mechanism? |
| 15:27.32 | beerkid | Someone told me to dO an ls -la on /var/www/apache2-default and see who the group is. |
| 15:27.48 | brad_ | BleSS: that sounds like a windows question, but the answer is yes |
| 15:29.31 | beerkid | oh that is an l, not an i |
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| 15:29.42 | Titan8990 | beerkid, and who is the owner of the directory? |
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| 15:33.07 | Titan8990 | beerkid, root should not own anything in your web directories |
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| 15:33.51 | beerkid | does ^ prt scrn work in debian as it does in windows? |
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| 15:34.09 | beerkid | Maybe I can just send a screenshot of what I have up |
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| 15:34.26 | kingsley | Is it just me, or has anyone else's DNS been interrupted yesterday and today? |
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| 15:39.40 | Titan8990 | beerkid, uhh, a screenshot? just use pastebin |
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| 15:45.39 | ootput | kingsley: just you |
| 15:45.45 | ootput | or your ISP, rather |
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| 15:46.30 | kingsley | How would you find out which DNS servers a box is using? |
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| 15:46.30 | Titan8990 | kingsley, cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 15:46.30 | danisahne | hi i need wol but its disabled on init 0 and s2disk |
| 15:46.30 | danisahne | with poweroff -f it works |
| 15:46.30 | beerkid | Titan: http://pastebin.com/dcbf3517 |
| 15:46.30 | danisahne | if enabled with ethtool before |
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| 15:46.30 | danisahne | someone has a tip?# |
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| 15:46.31 | Titan8990 | beerkid, only root and the www-data user can write to that directory |
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| 15:46.32 | Titan8990 | beerkid, chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/apache2-default |
| 15:46.32 | kingsley | Titan8990: Yes, I'm familiar with /etc/resolv.conf, but, I seem to recall a command that dynamically returns the DNS servers, and it seems to me this would be preferable because it would report the servers correctly even if a local service like dnsmasq didn't use resolv.conf. |
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| 15:46.32 | Titan8990 | beerkid, chmod g+w /var/www/apache2-default |
| 15:46.32 | beerkid | I did that just now, Titan, and it just went to the next line |
| 15:46.32 | Titan8990 | beerkid, is this your first time using linux? |
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| 15:46.32 | abrotman | or the command line at all ? |
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| 15:46.32 | beerkid | yes it is |
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| 15:46.33 | beerkid | planning to learn it but just trying to run an app on the server right now |
| 15:46.33 | beerkid | i like the command line concept though. |
| 15:46.33 | Titan8990 | kingsley, not that I have heard of and I don't see anything in /proc/net/* that would indicate that |
| 15:46.33 | beerkid | What should I do now after entering those 2 lines? |
| 15:46.33 | Titan8990 | beerkid, try whatever you were trying to do again |
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| 15:46.43 | beerkid | awesome |
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| 15:47.05 | Titan8990 | beerkid, for the most part you will never find a GUI on a server |
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| 15:47.30 | Titan8990 | most shared hosting plans prefer ftp upload to your webserver directories |
| 15:47.34 | beerkid | so i'm guessing that the chown made it so that any user can get access to the server? |
| 15:47.47 | Titan8990 | beerkid, hell no, i would never tell a user to do that |
| 15:47.56 | bruce | I just installed lenny, on an hp laptop (probook 4510s) and it does not detect the wireless material, any idea? |
| 15:48.08 | Titan8990 | bruce, what card? |
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| 15:48.48 | beerkid | yeah, i use cpanel mainly when im working with my hosting provider |
| 15:48.56 | Titan8990 | beerkid, it changed ownership of everything in the web directory and lower to the www-data user and www-data group |
| 15:49.12 | beerkid | i have a local server on windows set up but a few hurdles in getting setup with linux |
| 15:49.13 | Titan8990 | beerkid, then changed the permissions to allow the www-data group the ability to write |
| 15:49.16 | bruce | would I do "lspci -nn" to find out? |
| 15:49.44 | Titan8990 | beerkid, most of what you know about windows is worthless here in the linux world |
| 15:49.49 | Titan8990 | bruce, lspci is fine |
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| 15:50.11 | beerkid | im starting to realize that |
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| 15:50.20 | beerkid | does ubuntu feature more gui than debian/ |
| 15:50.38 | Titan8990 | beerkid, ask #ubuntu |
| 15:50.47 | beerkid | ok ok |
| 15:50.48 | bruce | it gives me this : http://debian.pastebin.com/m49e73892 |
| 15:50.52 | beerkid | thanks for the help |
| 15:52.17 | abrotman | !tell bruce about iwlwifi |
| 15:52.17 | Titan8990 | 5100... not sure about that one |
| 15:52.17 | abrotman | i bet the bot just ran away |
| 15:52.17 | Titan8990 | abrotman, i thought that was just for 3000 and 4000 series? |
| 15:52.17 | abrotman | oh, nope |
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| 15:52.17 | abrotman | oh .. right |
| 15:52.18 | abrotman | !iwlagn |
| 15:52.18 | dpkg | iwlagn is probably the driver for Intel 4965AG/AGN, 5050, 5100BG/ABG/ABN, 5300AGN and 5350AGN series of wireless LAN adapters. Included in mainline kernels since 2.6.27. Lenny users: ask me about <backports.org> to install a later kernel image containing this driver. Firmware is required, ask me about <iwlagn firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/iwlagn |
| 15:52.18 | abrotman | there we go! |
| 15:52.18 | abrotman | !tell bruce about backports.org |
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| 15:52.18 | abrotman | bruce: get the .30 kernel from backports.org .. |
| 15:52.27 | abrotman | !tell bruce about iwlagn firmware |
| 15:52.34 | abrotman | bruce: and see the URL http://wiki.debian.org/iwlagn |
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| 15:55.10 | bruce | do I add backports to my sources.list, then get it with and apt-get? |
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| 15:56.03 | abrotman | aptitude .. but yes |
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| 15:56.50 | bruce | I have been using apt-get..... |
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| 15:57.14 | abrotman | you should be using aptitude |
| 15:58.18 | jeroen_h | hm why aptitude over apt-get? |
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| 15:58.32 | avu | !why aptitude |
| 15:58.32 | lontra | will latex look for files in ~/texmf? |
| 15:58.32 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often be able to come up with a solution where apt-get just gives up. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). Like apt-get, it can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line or at the Y/n/q/? prompt using its interactive resolver, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
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| 15:59.11 | jeroen_h | hm more idiot proof then :) |
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| 16:05.08 | acu | abrotman: I want to pay the least - but ultimately I want to get the best smartphone there (Now I have a Centro with Sprint - and it was OK) - anyhow tell me the cheapest solution I can have and then the ideal one |
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| 16:05.29 | danisahne | somebody has wol working? |
| 16:05.44 | lmaowaffle | danisahne: yes |
| 16:05.57 | abrotman | acu: i really don't know .. i've been looking at android phones |
| 16:05.58 | danisahne | why does debian turn off wol when shutting down? |
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| 16:06.15 | danisahne | with poweroff -f it works |
| 16:06.51 | lmaowaffle | danisahne: I haven't had that problm (shutdown -h) |
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| 16:07.25 | lmaowaffle | isn't wol more of a bios feature anyway? notthing debian would have any control over |
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| 16:10.25 | setuid | Why does Debian 5.0.3 have 31 CDs? |
| 16:10.25 | setuid | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/5.0.3/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 16:10.26 | setuid | ^ there |
| 16:10.26 | PiousMinion- | Umm, /sbin/mkfs.ext4 exists, yet I can't mount ext4 filesystems. What gives? |
| 16:10.27 | setuid | I feel like I'm back in the Slackware days of downloading 30+ floppy images ;) |
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| 16:10.27 | danisahne | in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:10.27 | danisahne | post-up /usr/sbin/ethtool -s $IFACE wol g |
| 16:10.27 | danisahne | post-down /usr/sbin/ethtool -s $IFACE wol g |
| 16:10.28 | acu | abrotman: yes I am trying to look at some androids - suposedly they should be easier to configure to talk to debian - however they are above 350 or so |
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| 16:10.28 | abrotman | acu: depends on your country and your contract |
| 16:10.28 | setuid | acu, Get a Nook :) |
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| 16:10.28 | Kuifje111 | hello all. I am looking for a tool which does exactly this: make one or more screen captures of multiple video files in a directory. Does anyone know if such application exists for linux? |
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| 16:11.34 | acu | abrotman: I am in Minnesota USA (current temperature - 2 F (-20 Deg Celsius) :) No kidding only strong people hang around here :) |
| 16:13.03 | abrotman | acu: i'll be there next week |
| 16:13.25 | markybob | Kuifje111, imagemagick can do that |
| 16:13.30 | acu | really - where exactly which city ? |
| 16:13.32 | Kuifje111 | markybon: thank you. |
| 16:13.34 | acu | abrotman |
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| 16:13.42 | setuid | abrotman, Any idea about the 31 CD images out on http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/5.0.3/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 16:13.57 | the_dark_warrio | How one would add another alternative program (with update-alternatives) to some group? |
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| 16:14.19 | abrotman | acu: WI |
| 16:14.23 | abrotman | setuid: for what ? |
| 16:14.29 | abrotman | hehe .. markybon |
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| 16:14.34 | setuid | abrotman, Debian 5.0.3 on AMD64 has 31 CD images |
| 16:14.53 | abrotman | right .. i know that .. what you actually asking ? |
| 16:15.28 | setuid | abrotman, Why? And what of those do I actually need to get a working system? Is that the _entire_ collection of all packages in the "testing" repo? Or what? Why so many? |
| 16:15.32 | abrotman | !netinst |
| 16:15.32 | dpkg | i guess netinst is a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and more packages later. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ See also <check iso image>, <dialup install>, <usb install>, <pppoe install>, <netboot>, <bf>, <installer>. |
| 16:15.36 | acu | abrotman: Wisconsin is a state :) where in wisconsin ? Are you close in Minnesota ? - I told you I want to talk to about some Debian training |
| 16:15.43 | setuid | I normally use netinst, but I need to do an offline install. |
| 16:16.00 | markybob | Kuifje111, http://www.bernzilla.com/2008/06/01/generating-video-thumbnail-storyboards/ |
| 16:16.08 | acu | setuid: get the DVD version of it |
| 16:16.20 | Kuifje111 | markybob: thanks again. |
| 16:16.36 | acu | setuid: and depends on what you want to install - if it is a basic workstation with Gnome - I think first DVD will do it |
| 16:16.47 | abrotman | acu: the middle |
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| 16:18.10 | acu | abrotman: LOL - you are like a beautiful shy girl not wanted to reveal anything concrete :) - Yes Madison would be middle somehow - it is 3.5 hours away from Rochester MN |
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| 16:20.02 | acu | abrotman: as I said I want to organize some training for Debian - and of course I am looking for some experts for some specific parts of the course - or specific topics - |
| 16:20.16 | abrotman | acu: because it's not relevant to #debian .. try #debian-offtopic |
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| 16:32.31 | hpeter | hi, anyone who has experience with ftp-proxy? i've setup a working ftp-proxy but want to change/add a starting directory on the destination ftp |
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| 16:32.58 | hpeter | is there any (hidden) option for this? |
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| 16:33.22 | hpeter | or any other proxy-server that could do this? |
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| 16:35.05 | Kuifje111 | hpeter: you could as well point a domain to the ftp dir. |
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| 16:35.26 | Kuifje111 | or a subdomain. |
| 16:35.40 | Kuifje111 | wouldnt know about ftp-proxy. |
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| 16:35.51 | Kuifje111 | you could ask in #httpd about that. |
| 16:35.56 | beerkid | I'm getting a call to undefined curl-init error. I did an apt-get install php5-curl but it says already the latest version even though i just installed the package...I checked phpinfo() and there is nothing about curl in that file. Any tip on what to do next to diagnose? |
| 16:36.02 | riot | hi |
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| 16:37.23 | hpeter | Kuifje111: thing is that my client wants ftp-access on a directory in the db where i can't redirect anything, i already hab webdav access pointing to that dir, but ftp is wanted |
| 16:38.05 | hpeter | *stupid clients* |
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| 16:38.29 | riot | how do i override a dependency? I don't want to install tex' documentation, its huge and i never really needed it :( |
| 16:39.10 | Kuifje111 | hpeter: he wants ftp access? cant you set up an ftp daemon, or am I missing something here? |
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| 16:40.25 | hpeter | Kuifje111: ftp is already running but i have to skip one directory because the user won't have permission on that |
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| 16:41.38 | Kuifje111 | hpeter: cant you chroot the user to the dir you want it to be? |
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| 16:41.57 | EvYdance | Hello, i search a packet of php with imagerotate and imageconvolution active have you an idea ? |
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| 16:43.12 | hpeter | Kuifje111: the database doesn't let me do that, therefore i tried with a proxy, but it seems ftp-proxy can't do this either |
| 16:43.25 | beerkid | Is there something special I have to do to setup curl for php5? It's installed according to the shell. |
| 16:43.40 | Kuifje111 | hpeter: what kind of database are you referring to? |
| 16:43.48 | hpeter | zodb |
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| 16:45.00 | NegationistKitty | ls |
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| 16:47.26 | narayan44 | does anyone know anything about exim4? |
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| 16:47.41 | Kuifje111 | hpeter: never heard of that type of database. sorry, cannot help you. |
| 16:47.55 | narayan44 | I am trying to set up for local mail delievery with no success |
| 16:48.08 | Dapeamel | Hello guys I have a question I dont know which File I will download from debians site I have intel quad 2 |
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| 16:48.58 | petemc | Dapeamel: amd64 if you want 64 bit, i386 otherwise |
| 16:50.52 | Dapeamel | Hi guys, I have intel quad 2 which one of all those will I take ? --> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.3/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
| 16:51.24 | petemc | Dapeamel: you dont need to download full dvds, use a small netinstall and grab the packages you need from the net |
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| 16:51.27 | petemc | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.3/amd64/iso-cd/debian-503-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 16:51.36 | Dapeamel | hmm ok |
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| 16:51.56 | Dapeamel | thanks |
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| 16:52.03 | Dapeamel | brb :) |
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| 16:56.16 | HOVO | hi all |
| 16:56.36 | HOVO | who can tell me whot the best suse or debian and why ??? |
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| 16:57.36 | StylusEater | HOVO: the choice would probably be made on "preference" not "best or worst" |
| 16:58.00 | StylusEater | HOVO: although some might have strong preferences that turn into a "best or worst" statement |
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| 16:58.47 | HOVO | and wots preferance ??? |
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| 16:59.12 | petemc | HOVO: this is #debian, you'll find the people here prefer debian |
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| 17:03.04 | jhutchins_lt | Anybody know of a good feature comparison page we could refer folks to? |
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| 17:03.23 | StylusEater | jhutchins_lt: for? |
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| 17:03.48 | jhutchins_lt | Folks like HOVO who are choosing distros. |
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| 17:05.25 | StylusEater | jhutchins_lt: I wasn't trying to scare HOVO away... I don't know of a page that I would point someone to because I think such a page would be difficult to write. Features comparison for what? Do you like the CLI or a GUI? do you like vi or EMacs? etc. That type of comparison? Or more useful things like, virtual memory allocation performance, thread performance, and other kernel related things... |
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| 17:06.13 | StylusEater | jhutchins_lt: I could see a kernel related thing being useful (and doable) but a "let's compare all default packages to another distro" page very hard to do |
| 17:06.16 | jhutchins_lt | Well, things like deb vs. rpm, six-month release cycle vs. whatever, rolling updates, strict separation of non-free packages. |
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| 17:06.41 | jhutchins_lt | Default desktop, number of packages available/installed by default. |
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| 17:07.04 | jhutchins_lt | Third-party participation (high for slackware, low for RH & SuSE). |
| 17:07.11 | StylusEater | jhutchins_lt: a "default" install means different things to different folks |
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| 17:07.34 | StylusEater | jhutchins_lt: again, not trying to be difficult, just asking... |
| 17:07.48 | jhutchins_lt | StylusEater: I suppose that's another one: how many questions does the installer ask? |
| 17:08.11 | StylusEater | jhutchins_lt: maybe we could put together a quick page as we're discussing? |
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| 17:08.29 | jhutchins_lt | StylusEater: Yeah, I haven't seen one, so maybe it's time to start working on one. |
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| 17:08.41 | jhutchins_lt | StylusEater: Make it a wiki so people can colaborate. |
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| 17:12.14 | StylusEater | jhutchins_lt: ? |
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| 17:12.34 | cliff_ | Hm. Is debian's webserver down? |
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| 17:13.17 | abrotman | which one? |
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| 17:14.23 | TheJoe | Is anyone has getting a segmentation fault from gnome-keybinding-properties? |
| 17:14.34 | TheJoe | (gnome-keybinding-properties:6462): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /glib2.0-2.22.2/gobject/gtype.c:3940: type id `0' is invalid |
| 17:14.38 | TheJoe | Of that variety |
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| 17:16.27 | cahoot | TheJoe: tred to look at bugs.debian.org? |
| 17:16.46 | TheJoe | cahoot: Good point |
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| 17:17.49 | cliff_ | I'm aware of apt-spy, but I thought there was some other tool for automatically selecting the fastest debian mirror? |
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| 17:18.33 | beerkid | Is it possible for curl to be installed properly for php5 if I'm not seeing it present in phpinfo()? It appears to be installed properly according to the shell. I even tried to remove and re-install but still no luck. |
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| 17:21.41 | cliff_ | It seems like ftp.us.debian.org is dead. |
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| 17:22.05 | cliff_ | It also seems like www.debian.org is dead. |
| 17:22.11 | cliff_ | Can't even access the mirror list. |
| 17:22.18 | xk | it's OK hre. |
| 17:22.23 | JoshH | fine for me |
| 17:22.27 | cliff_ | Hrm. |
| 17:22.27 | adb | and here |
| 17:22.30 | cliff_ | Something must be up over here. |
| 17:22.59 | StylusEater | cliff_: it's ok here |
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| 17:25.28 | DasEi1 | cliff: it's up and http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ |
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| 17:26.08 | i37net | hi there, i installed apache on lenny vps and setup virtualhosts. i setup a seperate log for each v.host but i'm running into difficulties with regards to permissions for the new logs. i know i can set up permissions to resolved that but i was wondering why do i need to? i thought logs are written by apache as root. any ideas? |
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| 17:28.06 | StylusEater | i37net: even if the log is owned by root, root would need write permissions to write to it |
| 17:28.24 | StylusEater | i37net: the effective id of apache when dealing with logs I think is root...so that should be fine |
| 17:28.30 | cliff_ | I keep getting 404 Not Found [IP: ::1 80] when I apt-get update |
| 17:28.39 | cliff_ | For ftp.us.debian.org |
| 17:28.49 | i37net | so root doent have write permission to all files by default? |
| 17:28.54 | cliff_ | Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. |
| 17:28.58 | cliff_ | Keeps saying that to me |
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| 17:29.10 | StylusEater | cliff_: ftp.us.debian.org is for ftp no? |
| 17:29.40 | cliff_ | True. |
| 17:29.44 | fer_ong | Hello all, I want to add some parameters to mysql start script, but I do not how to update the rc scripts |
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| 17:29.54 | StylusEater | cliff_: maybe try something like 'deb http://us.debian.org/ lenny main' in your apt sources file? |
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| 17:30.24 | StylusEater | cliff_: obsolete but maybe useful doc --> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html |
| 17:30.32 | cliff_ | I wonder why it would select an ftp mirror during the install process, if it were going to create these sorts of problems. |
| 17:30.58 | cantoma | guys, after i did a make clean and make of a c project which is mine I got the following problem executing the binary file -> "bash: ./Debug/emoea_original: Permission denied" I tried to run it as root and I also did chmod 777. The result was always the same. The file is in a external disk mounted with (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=jduro). Is it because of noexec? |
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| 17:31.21 | cliff_ | Hrm. Still getting the error |
| 17:31.25 | xk | cantoma: yes. noexec is the problem |
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| 17:32.17 | StylusEater | cliff_: http://pastebin.com/d2bc4d7d |
| 17:32.29 | StylusEater | cliff_: that's part of my /etc/apt/sources.list file |
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| 17:33.30 | beerkid | Just got an error when trying to re-start apache2. Any ideas? -> http://pastebin.com/d3e5b56cd |
| 17:33.30 | StylusEater | cliff_: if you're running lenny, then make a copy of your current sources.list file and then replace what you have in your existing sources.list file with what I pasted |
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| 17:33.35 | beerkid | Let me try that again. Just got an error when trying to re-start apache2. Any ideas? -> http://pastebin.com/d3e5b56cd |
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| 17:33.55 | cahoot | beerkid: did you read the msg? |
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| 17:34.48 | StylusEater | cliff_: are you running lenny? |
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| 17:35.30 | StylusEater | cliff_: check /etc/debian_version |
| 17:35.35 | cliff_ | StylusEater: I am. |
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| 17:35.57 | StylusEater | cliff_: did you try the apt source I pasted? |
| 17:36.05 | cliff_ | It's giving me a 404, hold |
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| 17:39.17 | cliff_ | I just switched "ftp" with "http", and it started working. |
| 17:39.29 | StylusEater | cliff_: sweet |
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| 17:59.20 | sena--- | anybody got flash running on x86_64 with firefox 3.5.5? I need some help with that? |
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| 18:01.26 | qwd | sena---: did you install flashplugin-nonfree ? |
| 18:01.27 | simonrvn | ravenbird: test |
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| 18:01.31 | ravenbird | No, simonrvn, you're not online any more. |
| 18:01.37 | simonrvn | &test |
| 18:01.38 | ravenbird | Yes, simonrvn, you're still online. |
| 18:01.44 | simonrvn | jelly: ^^^ |
| 18:01.58 | simonrvn | dpkg: come back from zombiehood! |
| 18:01.58 | dpkg | wish i knew, simonrvn |
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| 18:02.04 | jelly | dpkg: die |
| 18:02.04 | dpkg | I'll murder you jelly! Decapitate you and play snooker with your eyes! |
| 18:02.23 | sena--- | qwd: yes and the extras too |
| 18:02.31 | simonrvn | hhmmm, snooker. with eyes. too small. :P |
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| 18:02.44 | jelly | sena---: amusingly, it works better in Opera for me (on amd64) |
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| 18:03.04 | hoxu | !annoy bob2 |
| 18:03.04 | dpkg | Why do i get "NO SCREENS FOUND"?!?! HELP ME FUX0RS!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:03.17 | jelly | !penixstrike |
| 18:03.17 | dpkg | Dozens of Penices shower from the heavens, pummelling the inhabitants of #debian, leaving half-conscious debian users and wet spots everywhere. |
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| 18:03.45 | sena--- | jelly: i like ff and i will try to stik to it, but thanks |
| 18:03.50 | Xenguy | gahh |
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| 18:04.03 | simonrvn | oldies but goodies |
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| 18:04.12 | brutus | is there any equalizer plugin for rhythmbox? |
| 18:04.30 | simonrvn | isn't it builtin for that thing? |
| 18:04.34 | qwd | sena---: I don't remember there being any problem with FF 3.0 in Lenny but I'm on Squeeze now and don't want flash anymore. I guess you've already tried restarting the browser so don't think I can help you more than that. Good luck :) |
| 18:04.38 | jelly | sena---: I've had to revert to a 32bit build to have both flash and a few specific java applets working at the same time |
| 18:05.23 | qwd | (and yes I'm talking about amd64) |
| 18:05.55 | sena--- | qwd: well I have tried my things I am on hardy 8.04 |
| 18:06.02 | simonrvn | ... |
| 18:06.05 | qwd | !ubuntu |
| 18:06.05 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 18:06.18 | sena--- | jelly: actually firefox does not have 64bit version |
| 18:06.29 | Xenguy | Hi - I'd like to replace 'sage' (installed through iceweasel add-ons) with package 'firefox-sage'. If I uninstall the former and replace it with the latter, will my current configurations/feeds remain, or will they be destroyed? |
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| 18:07.01 | fluxdude | I have font problems on my debian box |
| 18:07.01 | sena--- | jelly: I got the missing libraries for 32 bit input them in the ff folder and it runs now |
| 18:07.10 | qwd | Xenguy: they'll probably remain but if you want to be sure open sage and see if you can export the feeds |
| 18:07.20 | fluxdude | I recall that I have had these on previous boxen byut I cannot remember what I did |
| 18:07.28 | fluxdude | something to do with defoma or something? |
| 18:07.29 | Xenguy | qwd: good idea - tx |
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| 18:07.43 | sena--- | jelly: i have not installed it actually just unpacked the archive and start it wtih ./firefox |
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| 18:08.39 | jelly | sena---: so grab a 32bit flash.tar.gz, put the .so file wherever and that should be it? |
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| 18:09.17 | sena--- | then I found the latest x86_64 flash.tar.gz then put the .so file .. hm do you think this is the problem |
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| 18:09.48 | jelly | if you have a 32bit browser, a 64bit plugin is somehow NOT going to work with it |
| 18:09.53 | sena--- | jelly: that I am putting the x86_64 .so file in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugin |
| 18:10.07 | qwd | sena---: the next time you have a question, make sure to explain the situation right away. and of course ask in the right channel. make it easy for others to help you. just a tip |
| 18:10.11 | sena--- | jelly: thanks that makes a lot of sense |
| 18:10.39 | sena--- | qwd: ok I will try thanks |
| 18:11.21 | Xenguy | qwd: confirmed, sage exports to some OPML format |
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| 18:12.02 | qwd | Xenguy: sena---: Great :) |
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| 18:15.28 | sena--- | jelly: there is an improvement now the browser craches :)) |
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| 18:17.58 | jelly | sena---: yay? |
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| 19:05.13 | DasEi2 | HardDisk_WP: mount it readonly |
| 19:05.14 | HardDisk_WP | DasEi2, won't this set a lastmounted-timestamp? |
| 19:05.16 | DasEi2 | HardDisk_WP: err right |
| 19:05.16 | jhutchins_lt | rgr: I think I installed cups-client and just went with what it pulled in. |
| 19:05.17 | Stereo | Ganang: I'll try |
| 19:05.17 | Stereo | uh |
| 19:05.17 | jhutchins_lt | rgr: The foomatic stuff is formatting info. |
| 19:05.18 | Stereo | Ganang: it tries to install a lot of stuff |
| 19:05.18 | HardDisk_WP | DasEi2, i want to implement some tampering-check using signatures... |
| 19:05.19 | rgr | yeah and it seems to clash with other packages. I dunno. It seems hellishly messy. |
| 19:05.19 | jhutchins_lt | rgr: hplip is an attempt at a package that handles all HP's, but it doesn't quite succeed. |
| 19:05.21 | HardDisk_WP | and of course it'll fail if the partition has been changed^^ |
| 19:05.23 | Stereo | Ganang: looks like your student didn't get his package signing right |
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| 19:05.24 | rgr | yet everywhere recommends hplip. I looked at the download too today : 38 megs to get a f***ing printer installed. |
| 19:05.29 | DasEi2 | HardDisk_WP: interesting task, got me on google |
| 19:05.29 | jhutchins_lt | rgr: Well, it's a print management system, oriented toward network print services. Yeah, not what you really need, but there it is. |
| 19:05.33 | X-Sleepy-X | Does Debian 5.0 completly support the Asus Eee PC 900? |
| 19:05.33 | jhutchins_lt | rgr: Plenty of unnecessary crap gets installed on that other OS, and plenty of it contradicts other parts of itself. |
| 19:05.33 | rgr | yup. And then the clash betwen cups and the gnome interface too. |
| 19:05.34 | cahoot | X-Sleepy-X: ja |
| 19:05.35 | rgr | well, I'm not commenting on the other OS. Only Debian here. |
| 19:05.35 | X-Sleepy-X | cahoot: Trevligt. |
| 19:05.37 | jhutchins_lt | rgr: Understood. It's just the state of printing software. |
| 19:05.37 | rgr | I think its time for a "look like a printer thing, smell like one you get purged" moment. |
| 19:05.39 | cahoot | X-Sleepy-X: #debian-eeepc on oftc might know more |
| 19:05.39 | HardDisk_WP | rgr, windows HP drivers are even bigger... 250MB or so for the full install |
| 19:05.40 | rgr | jhutchins_lt: sure. Pity its linked with me using that hellish mess known as latex. Jesus. installing latex fonts needs a degree in non intuitiveness :-) |
| 19:05.41 | Stereo | Ganang: E: Failed to fetch http://issg.cs.duke.edu/pip/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/pip-dev_0.0-20060621_i386.deb: Hash Sum mismatch |
| 19:05.41 | DasEi2 | HardDisk_WP: noatime option |
| 19:05.42 | Stereo | Ganang: tell your student to try to install his packages :) |
| 19:05.43 | HardDisk_WP | DasEi2, kk... what about the "this partition is mounted" flag? |
| 19:05.44 | jhutchins_lt | rgr: This might be helpful: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/printing.htm |
| 19:05.46 | DasEi2 | HardDisk_WP: sould be same, you won't hash or whatever an unmounted drive, nor ? |
| 19:05.47 | rgr | yeah, I know all about these pages. I've been using debiabn for 3 years now and printing worked until the other day. It's something more demonic. Hopefully just a testing lgitch. |
| 19:05.51 | jhutchins_lt | dpkg: tell rgr about cups-setup |
| 19:05.52 | jhutchins_lt | rgr: Ah. Sorry for the noise then. |
| 19:06.52 | rgr | What provides the scanning functionality though? The hplip drivers? |
| 19:07.04 | zinx | sane? |
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| 19:26.14 | cahoot | rgr logout login then |
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| 19:26.17 | rgr | cahoot: you know, I wonder if all I needed was a logout? I'm so used to not having to do that .... It works. I wonder what part triggered it working again? |
| 19:26.18 | cahoot | rgr logout login updates groups memberships |
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| 19:26.18 | jhutchins_lt | k, completely restarting iceweasel fixed it. |
| 19:26.18 | rgr | doesnt compute though since I was in the group scanners and printing was already working. |
| 19:26.18 | cahoot | rgr su $USER just 'works' in the terminal from which you su'ed |
| 19:26.18 | rgr | got to go eat - thanks. |
| 19:26.38 | cahoot | rgr: as you saw the scanner wadevice was root/lp - not root/scanner |
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| 19:26.58 | YiamiYo | hi...i just installed debian (kernel 2.6.26-2-powerpc) in my old mac...how can i install backports? |
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| 19:27.33 | abrotman | YiamiYo: read the instructions at backports.org |
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| 19:30.03 | YiamiYo | i have already add the source url...but i get a lot of errors when i do apt-get update |
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| 19:30.36 | abrotman | YiamiYo: you're not reading the instructions at backports.org |
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| 19:31.01 | abrotman | YiamiYo: what are you trying to install? and what is your current sources.list ? |
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| 19:32.32 | YiamiYo | i want to install the drivers of my netgear wireless card http://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x#RTL8187SE |
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| 19:43.45 | Titan8990 | I just had to restore from a backup... does anyone know why blkid displays devices I don't have? |
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| 19:45.31 | Titan8990 | http://pastebin.com/m77afda3e |
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| 19:46.58 | Titan8990 | In case it was missed in the netsplit: I just had to restore from a backup... does anyone know why blkid displays devices I don't have? |
| 19:46.58 | Titan8990 | http://pastebin.com/m77afda3e |
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| 19:47.23 | Titan8990 | ah, blkid keeps a cache in /etc/blkid.tab |
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| 19:59.12 | starenka__ | hi, do you think lenny w/ kde 3 will play nice on 800mhz/128ram? or should i try lxde? (the person who will work w/ the comp, doesn't seem to like any *box) |
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| 20:02.01 | cavedon | hi, let's say I maintain package P, which segfauts because of an upstream bug in library L. I debug L and create a patch. Am I supposed to open a bug on the Debian package, upstream, or both? |
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| 20:04.24 | sepult | i think upstream only |
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| 20:04.40 | sepult | since it's not the P's fault |
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| 20:10.16 | jelly-home | cavedon: L is obviously packaged as well... so file a bug on libL0 package and let the maintainer deal with upstream |
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| 20:12.01 | jelly-home | (It's their job anyway) It really depends on the upstream <-> debian rapport, general activity of the maintainer in question, etc etc |
| 20:12.14 | cavedon | sepult, jelly: thanks! now I have 1-1 :) |
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| 20:12.45 | jelly-home | for one thing, I'm not reporting bugs in KDE to upstream because they require me to fill in forms and get an account on their bugzilla. So, fuck them. |
| 20:13.02 | cavedon | I guess that if I have a patch for upstream I could just send the patch upstream, why using an additional step? |
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| 20:13.51 | jelly-home | if other debian users stumble onto the same issue, they won't find your bug report in the bts\ |
| 20:14.09 | jelly-home | they might or might not find it on the interwebs |
| 20:14.29 | cavedon | yes, makes sense |
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| 20:15.31 | Dapeamel | Hi guys which Cd will I take if I got intel quad 2 I want to have 64 bit and no internet installation please help me out |
| 20:15.38 | Titan8990 | jelly-home, what kind of forms? beyond basic information? |
| 20:15.44 | jelly-home | then again some maintainers are AWOL or idiots and don't report real bugs back to upstream. Or they munge the upstream source too much, or they use too old stuff, and upstream doesn't want to get bug reports from Debian any more. |
| 20:15.59 | ukatan | hi, I'm having an interesting problem, when I use ttys the colors and brightness are fine, but x.org is super-dark for some reason! |
| 20:16.02 | Titan8990 | Dapeamel, amd64 cd1 |
| 20:16.14 | jelly-home | Titan8990: something that requires more than 3 minutes of my time. |
| 20:16.16 | ukatan | I have attempted to find a fix but my google-fu has failed me |
| 20:16.17 | Dapeamel | can you please me send the link master titan? :) |
| 20:16.38 | jelly-home | Titan8990: I bet you've used bugzilla before. |
| 20:16.45 | jelly-home | or tried to |
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| 20:17.22 | Titan8990 | jelly-home, with gentoo, yes. don't recall anything like that but maybe i just didn't care |
| 20:17.23 | selbeimanti | hi, is it possible the nvidia kernel module is missing after upgrading debian testing? |
| 20:17.35 | Titan8990 | selbeimanti, yeah, its possible |
| 20:17.46 | selbeimanti | how can i check/rectify this? |
| 20:18.20 | reto` | can I search the backports repos somehow with apt-cache or so? |
| 20:18.23 | Titan8990 | selbeimanti, verify you have the correct sources and `aptitude search nvidia-kernel-source` |
| 20:19.00 | selbeimanti | the nks is installed it tells me |
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| 20:19.21 | jelly-home | selbeimanti: uname -r? |
| 20:19.35 | selbeimanti | 2.6.30-1-amd64 |
| 20:20.27 | Titan8990 | im going to start keeping track of users who need support and their version. I bet less than 10% are actually running stable |
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| 20:20.56 | abrotman | you mean stable proper ? |
| 20:21.54 | Titan8990 | abrotman, when you say "stable proper" does that also mean no backports? |
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| 20:23.21 | selbeimanti | so what do i do to compile the new module? |
| 20:23.42 | abrotman | Titan8990: right ... only packages officially from lenny |
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| 20:25.22 | ukatan | oh, I figured it out. turns out the crappy trident xorg driver won't allow framebuffer ttys and x to run at the same time. |
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| 20:25.42 | hark | selbeimanti: use m-a, and you'll need to get it from sid |
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| 20:26.36 | reto` | can I search the backports repo somehow? with apt-cache maybe? |
| 20:27.17 | hark | yes |
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| 20:28.07 | reto` | oh yeah... didn't see it before |
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| 20:28.21 | selbeimanti | hark: i tried "m-a a-i nvidia-kernel-source", and it tells me i need linux-headers-2.6.30-1-amd64, however testing has only 2-amd64 |
| 20:28.30 | selbeimanti | so how do i get the sid version? |
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| 20:28.51 | hark | selbeimanti: so upgrade your kernel |
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| 20:29.54 | hark | !tell selbeimanti about nvidia squeeze |
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| 20:30.29 | selbeimanti | thx hark |
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| 20:32.52 | kanzure__ | when making a .deb, what's the difference between "build" and "install"? |
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| 20:36.15 | kanzure__ | is there a way to set environmental variables (to be preserved) in a .deb rules file? |
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| 20:43.26 | TrueDD | Howdy |
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| 20:44.44 | kanzure__ | maybe you edit /etc/profile ? how do packages set environment variables "for good"? |
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| 20:46.13 | pigdude | How can I change a user's primary group reliably? |
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| 20:46.43 | pigdude | I have edited a user's gid in /etc/passwd. But that user has retained their primary group somehow |
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| 20:47.11 | hark | kanzure__: as per policy, it's discouraged |
| 20:47.16 | Kuifje | usermod, maybe? |
| 20:47.19 | pigdude | "groups username" shows the assigned group alone, but new files created by the user are in that user's own group. |
| 20:47.28 | abrotman | did they logout/login ? |
| 20:47.32 | hark | kanzure__: /etc/profile is not to be used by your package |
| 20:47.35 | ruben23 | hi, how do set some application to automatically start upon reboot. |
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| 20:47.40 | pigdude | abrotman, yes, I've restarted the shell a few times |
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| 20:47.45 | kanzure__ | hark: ok it looks like /etc/profile isn't what i wanted anyway |
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| 20:47.54 | jhutchins_lt | I am having problems with file creation on a CIFS share. create mode is 0777, but the files are being created 0600 |
| 20:48.01 | kanzure__ | hark: the software needs to know where a library is, and it's via an environment variable |
| 20:48.06 | kanzure__ | hark: any suggestions for how i should do this? |
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| 20:48.47 | ruben23 | hi |
| 20:49.02 | hark | kanzure__: create a wrapper for the program which sets the environment variables and calls it |
| 20:49.19 | pigdude | I used usermod just now to apply the same change and got the "no changes" message. I once again restarted this user's shell, and now they are in the correct group. isn't that odd? |
| 20:49.21 | kanzure__ | hark: this wrapper should be in the .tar.gz for the source too? |
| 20:49.21 | jhutchins_lt | kanzure__: Sorry, brain is fuzzy this afternoon, there's a linking database that handles locating libraries. |
| 20:49.35 | kanzure__ | jhutchins_lt: don't recall the name? |
| 20:49.44 | jhutchins_lt | kanzure: Drawing a blank. |
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| 20:51.01 | hark | kanzure: best to ask here for package creation issues /msg dpkg mentors |
| 20:51.39 | kanzure | ask where? that's a bot |
| 20:51.56 | kanzure | ah i'm already on that mailing list |
| 20:52.00 | kanzure | but anyway |
| 20:52.34 | hark | #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org |
| 20:53.03 | jelly-home | !test |
| 20:53.03 | dpkg | Test failed. |
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| 20:53.17 | jelly-home | !literal test |
| 20:53.18 | dpkg | "test" is "<reply> Test failed." |
| 20:53.33 | jelly-home | hey... who reverted the epic test fail. |
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| 20:56.28 | K|NgGh0sT | I can't get apt to work anymore I keep getting the error... " files list file for package `libxklavier10' is missing final newline... I don't know wht is causing this any ideas? |
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| 20:59.26 | hark | check /var/lib/dpkg/info/libxklavier10.list |
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| 21:00.17 | BleSS | gedit - does anybody has problems with 'Manage External Tools' ; it isn't showed in the tools tab |
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| 21:04.21 | K|NgGh0sT | hark, will do |
| 21:04.52 | K|NgGh0sT | hark, it's just a buncha @^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ |
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| 21:06.16 | hark | K|NgGh0sT: yeah, that's not right. it's probably corrupt, i guess. try reinstalling the package |
| 21:06.42 | hark | K|NgGh0sT: if that doesn't work, delete the file and try reinstalling again |
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| 21:06.56 | K|NgGh0sT | hark, what is the package? |
| 21:08.34 | hark | K|NgGh0sT: the package with the problem? |
| 21:09.01 | K|NgGh0sT | I don't know which one contains that file to reinstall it |
| 21:09.59 | hark | judd versions libxklavier10 |
| 21:10.00 | judd | hark: libxklavier10 -- etch: 2.2-5 |
| 21:10.10 | hark | K|NgGh0sT: you're on etch? |
| 21:10.24 | K|NgGh0sT | Yes I am |
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| 21:10.44 | K|NgGh0sT | When I go to install that package it says to sue libxklavier12... |
| 21:11.15 | TJohn | Hi, how to get my files system type? I use fdisk -l,it didnt show ext3 ext4 etc... |
| 21:11.28 | jelly-home | blkid |
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| 21:12.07 | jelly-home | ^^ TJohn |
| 21:12.13 | TheJoe | In the Debian repos, sdl-mixer is libsdl-mixer - if I download and compile a newer sdl-mixer, would SDL acknowledge it at all? There is no "libsdl-mixer" source, y'see. Just "sdl-mixer" |
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| 21:12.46 | hark | /usr/lib/klibc/bin/fstype for some fstypes :) |
| 21:12.50 | jelly-home | TheJoe: you'd want to make a backported package. /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 21:13.22 | hark | K|NgGh0sT: how does it say that? can you pastebin it? |
| 21:13.23 | TheJoe | jelly-home: I'm not sure if sid even has the version I need |
| 21:13.49 | TheJoe | Yeah, it doesn't |
| 21:13.59 | TheJoe | 1.2.8 is the version with the bug I need to be rid of |
| 21:14.11 | jelly-home | TheJoe: /msg dpkg uupdate |
| 21:14.24 | TJohn | !df |
| 21:14.24 | dpkg | rumour has it, df is used to report filesystem disk space usage. |
| 21:14.25 | K|NgGh0sT | hark, Package libxklavier10 is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source However the following packages replace it: libxklavier12 |
| 21:14.56 | TJohn | !df -T |
| 21:14.57 | hark | K|NgGh0sT: you have lenny repositories enabled. not a good idea if you want to be on etch |
| 21:15.07 | TheJoe | jelly-home: And even that source package from sid is sdl-mixer |
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| 21:16.04 | jhutchins_lt | K|NgGh0sT: That or it's time to do a full-upgrade |
| 21:16.07 | jelly-home | TheJoe: sure. Package names often diverge from actual software names. |
| 21:16.17 | K|NgGh0sT | ah crap, ya forgot I needed one package that was in lenny, thanks |
| 21:16.27 | TheJoe | jelly-home: Yeah, the question was: With the different package name, would SDL even use it? |
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| 21:16.38 | TheJoe | If that's not the case, then I can just alien the RPM |
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| 21:17.15 | jelly-home | TheJoe: don't do that. |
| 21:17.46 | TheJoe | jelly-home: Why not? It would fix the bug |
| 21:17.53 | TheJoe | IF it's acknowledged |
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| 21:17.58 | jelly-home | create a backport instead |
| 21:18.12 | shifuimam | sooo i have this zipit z2 running some version of emdebian |
| 21:18.21 | shifuimam | i have wpa-supplicant installed and apparently i can no longer get an IP |
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| 21:19.38 | jelly-home | TheJoe: that way you'll keep apt happy and build the software with package/library versions actually present on your system. The random rpm will have been built with some other versions of libraries and may or may not work correctly. |
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| 21:20.56 | TheJoe | mumble mumble |
| 21:21.36 | jelly-home | should you choose to wilfully break apt/dpkg, don't come back crying |
| 21:21.52 | shifuimam | so |
| 21:21.53 | shifuimam | annnyone? |
| 21:22.22 | jelly-home | !emdebian |
| 21:22.23 | dpkg | hmm... emdebian is a distribution focused on extending Debian's reach into the embedded space; it is created by the Embedded Debian project, an official sub-project of Debian. It aims to make Debian GNU/Linux a mainstream choice for embedded Linux. Check out http://www.emdebian.org/ as well as http://familiar.handhelds.org/ or #emdebian on irc.oftc.net. |
| 21:22.39 | jelly-home | shifuimam: try asking in there |
| 21:22.55 | TheJoe | jelly-home: Well can I backport from the 1.2.11 source safely? Because I'm sure the bug will still exist in the sid version |
| 21:22.59 | shifuimam | well alrighty then |
| 21:23.19 | jelly-home | TheJoe: dpkg should have told you what tools to use to do exactly that. |
| 21:23.30 | TheJoe | Right right |
| 21:23.54 | jelly-home | so what are you waiting for? Git! |
| 21:24.01 | TheJoe | I'm on it! |
| 21:24.11 | jelly-home | or svn or whatever... wget |
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| 21:25.20 | shifuimam | ookay #emdebian is having a "meeting" on the channel so apparently it's no question time |
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| 21:25.35 | jelly-home | please come back later? |
| 21:25.45 | shifuimam | friendly bunch |
| 21:26.31 | jelly-home | shrugs |
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| 21:26.47 | shifuimam | i would think that getting wpa_supplicant to work is a bit more generic |
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| 21:27.30 | jelly-home | frankly I tuned out at "zipit z2 running [...] emdebian" |
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| 21:27.42 | jelly-home | too many zees |
| 21:28.05 | shifuimam | riiiiight |
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| 21:28.30 | shifuimam | i'm not certain i AM running emdebian per se. i think i am but i can't remember what is on this. it's been awhile |
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| 21:29.05 | jelly-home | there' also #debian on that network as well, just in case there's someone awake and willing to discuss wpa_supplicant |
| 21:29.15 | shifuimam | right-o |
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| 21:30.02 | jelly-home | I'll finish off with some unwanted generic advice. |
| 21:30.04 | jelly-home | !ask |
| 21:30.04 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 21:30.26 | cast | !jack |
| 21:30.26 | dpkg | jack is probably http://jackit.sf.net/, or http://www.home.unix-ag.org/arne/jack/, or a low latency audio server, or a colloquialism for a person who doesn't care about anything.... |
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| 21:31.19 | TheJoe | Ok I'm doing this wrong. |
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| 22:07.06 | siya | how does one debug gtk? |
| 22:07.12 | robd | abrotman: So does 4.0r8 already have the 2.6.24 kernel? |
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| 22:07.26 | robd | abrotman: or is it still using 2.6.18? |
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| 22:08.34 | markybob | siya, ask #gtk+ at irc.gnome.org |
| 22:08.51 | siya | markybob, tx |
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| 22:09.40 | abrotman | robd: no, but you dn't have to add anything to have the etchnhalf stuff available |
| 22:09.44 | abrotman | robd: you just install the ones you want |
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| 22:10.08 | LinuxGuy2009 | Is there any simple way to install both Gnome & KDE on the same machine but keep there apps seperate on the menus? |
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| 22:13.36 | jhutchins_lt | LinuxGuy2009: I think the default is to combine the menus, since most of the apps will run on the other platform, especially if the native platform is fully installed. |
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| 22:13.52 | jhutchins_lt | LinuxGuy2009: Many of the apps are shared anyway. |
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| 22:15.18 | robd | abrotman: sounds good |
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| 22:16.03 | LinuxGuy2009 | jhutchins_lt: Doesnt KDE apps use something called QT and Gnome uses GTK right? What exactly are those? Libraries or something? |
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| 22:16.14 | cast | GUI libraries, mostly |
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| 22:16.28 | jhutchins_lt | LinuxGuy2009: Yeah. |
| 22:16.33 | cast | uh, toolkits might be the right word perhaps, they have widgets and stuff |
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| 22:17.02 | jhutchins_lt | They have made an effort to keep the two projects interoperable. |
| 22:17.20 | LinuxGuy2009 | Ok I see. Do they play well together on the same system? No hickups like GUI glitches or anything like that? |
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| 22:17.56 | StylusEater | exit |
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| 22:18.45 | qwd | LinuxGuy2009: you can use gnome apps in kde and vice versa, but when I installed kde on ubuntu a long time ago I had trouble uninstalling it. don't remember why, probably incompetence :) |
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| 22:19.37 | kampasky_ | LinuxGuy2009: they work together fine in principle, but may not look entirely the same |
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| 22:20.29 | LinuxGuy2009 | kampasky_: ok cool |
| 22:20.43 | qwd | in gnome you can go to system -> preferences -> qt 4 settings to change how qt apps look. kde most likely has the same for gtk apps. |
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| 22:21.08 | LinuxGuy2009 | qwd: Ahh nice I didnt know that yet. Thanks. |
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| 22:24.38 | qwd | LinuxGuy2009: you may have to install qt4-qtconfig but I don't remember doing it myself |
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| 22:24.52 | LinuxGuy2009 | Kind of strange. When I boot up, Compiz isnt working but if I open up the compiz fusion icon and reload window manager then it kicks in. Do i need to set the compiz fusion icon to autostart or is there a logical reason behind this behavior? |
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| 22:26.03 | LinuxGuy2009 | qwd: Cool Ill definitely check that out. I know some of the apps look strange when crossing over from gnome to kde and vice versa. |
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| 22:27.55 | LinuxGuy2009 | Ive never really given KDE an honest chance so Im thinking of installing it right now off of the 5 DVDs that I downloaded. Give it a try for a while. |
| 22:28.20 | jhutchins_lt | 5 DVDs? |
| 22:28.51 | LinuxGuy2009 | Are there any others worth checking besides the common gnome, kde, lxde? |
| 22:29.02 | LinuxGuy2009 | jhutchins_lt: Yeah the repo disks. |
| 22:29.09 | Pnux | does the 5 DVDs include *everything* on the repos? or just the most popular? |
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| 22:29.35 | LinuxGuy2009 | Pnux: Should be the entire repos. |
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| 22:30.15 | LinuxGuy2009 | Pnux: Almost 20GB worth of apps. hehe |
| 22:30.22 | cast | e16 forever! |
| 22:30.38 | LinuxGuy2009 | cast: Is that one enlightenment? |
| 22:30.40 | jhutchins_lt | LinuxGuy2009: Did you get just the i386 or all the architectures? |
| 22:30.43 | rooisto47 | no testing build this week ? |
| 22:30.49 | cast | yes. |
| 22:30.55 | LinuxGuy2009 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.59 | jhutchins_lt | LinuxGuy2009: e17 is enlightenment trying to hide from it's history. |
| 22:31.19 | LinuxGuy2009 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:31.27 | rooisto47 | cast: was that yes for me ? |
| 22:31.33 | jhutchins_lt | LinuxGuy2009: Nope, just curious. I do net installs. |
| 22:31.37 | cast | rooisto47: no. |
| 22:31.40 | LinuxGuy2009 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:31.41 | rooisto47 | lol |
| 22:31.43 | Pnux | LinuxGuy2009: thats awesome, but do you ever use it? I dont think itd be useful for me |
| 22:32.06 | erutan | (newb sysadmin / debian user, got handed a debian lenny server) - i'm trying to do a simple 301 / Redirect permanent and nothing's happening. I put the line at the end of apache2.conf as i'm used to editing httpd.conf.. should i be working inside of conf.d instead? |
| 22:32.38 | LinuxGuy2009 | Pnux: Yeah I love having the repos on local repo disks. Like right now if i decide to install KDE itll be on in about 2mins rather than 5-10. |
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| 22:32.46 | abrotman | rooisto47: just use the netinst |
| 22:33.41 | Pnux | erutan: ask in #httpd, theyll be able to help you |
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| 22:33.48 | Bennit | hey all |
| 22:34.06 | LinuxGuy2009 | howdy howdy |
| 22:34.25 | erutan | pnux: ok - i know debian/ubuntu have a different httpd setup so came here first. thanks! |
| 22:34.35 | Bennit | i'm running Linux igor 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Nov 4 20:45:37 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 22:34.44 | Bennit | debian with kernel 2.6.26 :p |
| 22:34.50 | Bennit | lenny |
| 22:35.00 | jhutchins_lt | erutan: Debian makes a little more use of the distributed conf files from Apache2, there should be something about it on the wiki. |
| 22:35.02 | rooisto47 | abrotman: well I actually don't have the net at home and would like download the 3 first dvds to make a locale repository, so that's why I'm purchasing the testing dvd isos on http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A6E6EY36 |
| 22:35.03 | Bennit | is there any reason why extractying files from a rar archive always fails? |
| 22:35.11 | Bennit | (not just from one archive but any) |
| 22:35.17 | abrotman | rooisto47: but .. they'll be out of date tomorrow |
| 22:35.24 | Bennit | as in: is there a known issue with rar non-free on debian? |
| 22:36.01 | rooisto47 | abrotman: looool yes but newest than 5.03 |
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| 22:36.10 | erutan | jhutchins_lt: alright, searching the wiki now :) |
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| 22:36.30 | abrotman | looool? |
| 22:37.02 | rooisto47 | Oh 1st sorry for the wrong url and 2nd looool for LOL |
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| 22:37.29 | Bennit | or is there a way to tell apt to upgrade to a specified version from for example the ubuntu repo? |
| 22:37.47 | abrotman | Bennit: do not mix your Debian system with ubuntu .. it will break |
| 22:38.06 | Bennit | (tried using the 7z package but it says extracting is unsupported |
| 22:38.16 | abrotman | !unrar |
| 22:38.16 | dpkg | [rar] Roshal ARchive, a proprietary archive format used mostly by 3l33+ war3z d00dz, or the worst archive format ever. To extract RAR3 files (the most common archive version), use either the "rar" or "unrar" programs in non-free, ask me about <non-free sources>. "unrar-free" is unable to extract RAR3 files. Install the rar package to create RAR files. http://www.rarlab.com/ http://www.unrarlib.org/faq.html |
| 22:38.27 | abrotman | there is an unrar in the non-free sources |
| 22:38.42 | Bennit | that I have installed |
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| 22:45.30 | LinuxGuy2009 | Whats with all the lame leave message flooding? |
| 22:45.31 | ex-parrot | can anyone tell me what happened to kernel-patch-openvz? |
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| 22:46.06 | Pudgy | Hi all, Q:Elinks works in color, mc works in color... but when I open a Screen session then Elinks loses color (switches only b/w), but mc holds color. Where should I look to fix it? |
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| 22:49.01 | ex-parrot | Pudgy: does the TERM environment variable change? |
| 22:50.07 | ex-parrot | (echo $TERM in both to see) |
| 22:50.40 | Pnux | LinuxGuy2009: freenode netsplit |
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| 22:51.05 | LinuxGuy2009 | Pnux: Whats that? |
| 22:51.05 | ex-parrot | can anyone tell me what happened to kernel-patch-openvz? |
| 22:51.05 | Pnux | LinuxGuy2009: join #freenode and ask, or some to #debian-offtopic |
| 22:51.05 | ex-parrot | (apologies for re-sending that, I think the extra 300 or so people in the channel might be able to help me out though...) |
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| 22:51.09 | LinuxGuy2009 | Pnux: Why would I need to go there for? I havent said anything offtopic. |
| 22:51.09 | Pudgy | ex-parrot: yes it does, so I need to set the $term when opening screen right? Must be comewhere in the .screenrr or at least manpages. Thanx! |
| 22:51.09 | LinuxGuy2009 | Im sitting here playing my guitar and reading the screen. |
| 22:51.09 | Pnux | LinuxGuy2009: if you want to know the answer to your question, do that.. if not, dont |
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| 22:51.10 | LinuxGuy2009 | Pnux: What question are you talking about? |
| 22:51.10 | Pnux | (07:46:06 PM) LinuxGuy2009: Pnux: Whats that? |
| 22:51.10 | LinuxGuy2009 | I didnt know I had one. |
| 22:51.10 | LinuxGuy2009 | Pnux: If we arent allowed to speak of it then why mention it at all? |
| 22:51.10 | ex-parrot | LinuxGuy2009: I believe Pnux may be hinting at the fact that discussions about what a "netsplit" might be are outside of the defined topic for #debian |
| 22:51.10 | ex-parrot | returns to work and lets 'em duke it out |
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| 22:51.37 | LinuxGuy2009 | ex-parrot: Oh well I just saw someone say it and felt left out cause I didnt know what it was. Shame on me. |
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| 22:54.32 | jhutchins_lt | dpkg: tell LinuxGuy2009 about netsplit |
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| 22:57.06 | ajehals | Hi,does anyone know how I mount an older squashfs image (pre version 3.1)? I am seeing "SQUASHFS error: Major/Minor mismatch, older Squashfs 3.1 filesystems are unsupported" when I attempt to mount an image I have |
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| 22:59.49 | ajehals | Hi, does anyone know how I can mount a pre v3.1 squashfs image? (I am getting "SQUASHFS error: Major/Minor mismatch, older Squashfs 3.1 filesystems are unsupported" when I try...). |
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| 23:00.43 | ajehals | did I miss a split? |
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| 23:05.41 | LinuxGuy2009 | So if I install KDE right now and decide I dont want it or if I dont want gnome is there any simple way of removing that desktop environment and all its apps and deps all in one shot or do I have to search for each app name and remove them all one at a time? |
| 23:05.49 | LinuxGuy2009 | So if I install KDE right now and decide I dont want it or if I dont want gnome is there any simple way of removing that desktop environment and all its apps and deps all in one shot or do I have to search for each app name and remove them all one at a time? ( In case the flooding moved my question off of your screen.) |
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| 23:06.42 | ajehals_ | Restating my question because things seem to have been a bit... splitty. |
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| 23:06.46 | ajehals_ | Hi, does anyone know how I can mount a pre v3.1 squashfs image? (I am getting "SQUASHFS error: Major/Minor mismatch, older Squashfs 3.1 filesystems are unsupported" when I try...). |
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| 23:07.13 | oOarthurOo | Hi.. long time pidgin user here, using xchat for the first time. Can't figure out how to disable the join/parts in channels. Any tips? |
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| 23:07.35 | LinuxGuy2009 | So if I install KDE right now and decide I dont want it or if I dont want gnome is there any simple way of removing that desktop environment and all its apps and deps all in one shot or do I have to search for each app name and remove them all one at a time? |
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| 23:08.32 | zerohero | LinuxGuy2009: "autoremove" should do that for you, iirc |
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| 23:09.01 | zerohero | LinuxGuy2009: "aptitude autoremove kde", i think it was |
| 23:09.12 | adb | !remove kde |
| 23:09.12 | dpkg | To remove or purge KDE, do: aptitude remove kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data (use purge instead of remove if that's what you want). |
| 23:09.14 | Norv | LinuxGuy2009: with apt-get remove you can use kde* to find all in KDE and remove them. Or if you want, solely removing kdelibs will make apt want to remove all dependencies. |
| 23:09.49 | phogg | wow xchat keeps getting worse |
| 23:10.12 | ajehals_ | ugh never mind on the squashfs problem, I have an authorotative answer. which is essentially "you can't" :(. |
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| 23:11.42 | Norv | oOarthurOo: if I remember well it's a plugin that helps doing that |
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| 23:11.59 | LinuxGuy2009 | Norv: Yeah thats what i was gonna ask or like remove GTk for gnome removal or QT3/4 for kde removal. But I wonder how the other desktop environments would be done. Like I dont know if lxde or enlightenment have there own version of GTk or QT etc to be able to remove and then the others are seen as dpes and removed with it. |
| 23:12.03 | oOarthurOo | Thanks norv... I'll check out the repos. |
| 23:12.25 | phogg | why remove what you don't like? Disk is cheap. |
| 23:13.14 | phogg | disable the daemons, rm the menu entries if that bothers you. Good as gone. |
| 23:13.29 | oOarthurOo | Second question, I'm trying to enable kernel mode setting to get full 1280x800 resolution on an intel945 gm at boot. The instructions I was using told me to enable the intel fb stuf in the kernel and it ought to work out of the box. Alas, that hasn't happened yet. Aside from my custom compiled kernel, it's stock debian testing. |
| 23:13.36 | LinuxGuy2009 | I think i just need to play with it a while. |
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| 23:14.22 | oOarthurOo | Norv, turns out you just pass the command "/set irc_conf_mode 1" right here in the text chat box to disable it for all channels |
| 23:16.59 | mariana_ | hi guys im trying to start automating system administration here in my job. What would guys recommend me? puppet or cfengine? |
| 23:17.16 | Norv | oOarthurOo: thanks, good to know |
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| 23:19.37 | oOarthurOo | endri, Talk to yourself on cheese? |
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| 23:20.00 | endri | :) looking if it works |
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| 23:21.06 | seisatsu | FFFFFFFFFFFFF NETSPLITS |
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| 23:27.37 | Da_FBi | hello, does anyone here know much about vhosts, DNSs, and PTR's ? |
| 23:28.02 | moyix | so, after an upgrade, my system is no longer bootable (grub no longer goes to menu, just drops me to a command line). from there, I've tried various combinations to get things to boot, but it looks like the initrd I have doesn't know how to mount a root FS on an lvm group off a raid device... anyone have any idea how to proceed? |
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| 23:28.32 | cast | well |
| 23:28.48 | cast | oh, lvm/raid, nfi D: |
| 23:29.23 | moyix | yeah. I probably should not have taken a "let's just see if it works" approach when grub-probe told me it couldn't find a device for / |
| 23:29.52 | cast | do you have a normal /boot partition? |
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| 23:30.57 | moyix | no, it's also off raid (md0). but grub2 seemed pretty ok with that, and found the various kernels and initrds |
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| 23:32.01 | cast | ive only used softraid in solaris, if you make a mirrored md0 from sda1 and sdb1, can you still just mount /dev/sda1 /mnt? |
| 23:32.16 | moyix | yes, I believe so |
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| 23:34.48 | mns | ever since upgrading iceweasel to 3.5.5 it does not startup with all my tabs from the previous session. anyone else experiencing this ? |
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| 23:37.12 | jhutchins_lt | mns: Perhaps there's a reason 3.5.5 is not in stable? |
| 23:37.26 | jhutchins_lt | judd: versions iceweasel |
| 23:37.27 | judd | jhutchins_lt: iceweasel -- etch: 2.0.0.19-0etch1 etch-security: 2.0.0.19-0etch1 lenny: 3.0.6-1 lenny-security: 3.0.6-3 sid: 3.5.5-1 squeeze: 3.5.5-1 |
| 23:37.57 | mns | jhutchins_lt, sorry forgot to mention that I'm on squeeze. |
| 23:38.50 | mns | just wanted to make sure I'm not imagining the problem. I was unable to file a bug report, and didn't see anything in the BTS. |
| 23:38.51 | phogg | mns: I've seen that on one Windows box. I have not upgraded to 3.5.5 on linux yet |
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| 23:40.07 | mns | phogg, nice to know that its not just on linux :) |
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| 23:40.42 | hagabaka | after installing packages from an unofficial repository, and then removing the repository from apt sources, is there an easy way to revert to official packages using aptitude or apt-get? |
| 23:41.23 | azeem | hagabaka: no |
| 23:41.23 | qwd | phogg: got the same thing here on squeeze |
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| 23:41.41 | phogg | must be a feature |
| 23:41.47 | mns | must be ! |
| 23:41.49 | qwd | :) |
| 23:41.50 | phogg | faster startup times (-; |
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| 23:45.56 | PARLIAMENT | is there a text editor for Linux that can open the same file multiple times and edit different parts side-by-side? |
| 23:45.58 | mns | phogg, I've got iceweasel 3.5.5-1 installed on my home machine and it is working just fine over there ! |
| 23:46.11 | PARLIAMENT | I love Sublime editor on windows and can't find equal functionality in debian |
| 23:46.34 | jhutchins_lt | PARLIAMENT: I know there's one out there. |
| 23:46.35 | mns | emacs ? |
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| 23:46.58 | jhutchins_lt | mns: That's what "unstable" means, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. |
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| 23:47.03 | PARLIAMENT | jhutchins_lt: do you just suspect it or not remember the name? |
| 23:47.45 | rgr | no it doesn't. It means that the code base varies a lot AND may or may not work :-; |
| 23:47.52 | jhutchins_lt | PARLIAMENT: I know I've seen it discussed, but don't remember the name. |
| 23:48.02 | rudi_s | PARLIAMENT: Vim. |
| 23:48.02 | mns | jhutchins_lt, true, but not that it works on one platform (home machine is PPC) and not on another (laptop is x86) |
| 23:48.09 | phogg | mns: maybe some combination of extensions? |
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| 23:48.29 | rgr | ditto "stable" does not mean "it works". It means it doesn't change unless absolutley necessary. In otherswords a known error count. |
| 23:49.07 | mns | phogg, yeah I'm checking that right now. |
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| 23:49.43 | PARLIAMENT | rudi_s: hm ok |
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| 23:51.50 | phogg | mns: I cannot recall my exact set on that box, but I have session manager and image zoom for certain |
| 23:51.50 | blizzow1 | for some reason, when I run "sudo aptitude install packageX" from the command line aptitude wants to remove a bunch of packages from my system. When I run synaptic to install a package everything seems okay and synaptic installs the package I need. cat /etc/debian-version returns "squeeze/sid" but I don't have any sid stuff in /etc/apt/sources.list. Does anyone know what might be happening here? |
| 23:52.26 | sepult | is there a filesystem compactor for ext3 ? |
| 23:52.34 | sepult | or do i have to use fsck ? |
| 23:52.41 | sepult | e2fsck -D ?? |
| 23:52.57 | jhutchins_lt | aptitude purge noatun removes kde!? |
| 23:53.04 | jhutchins_lt | Somebody's fingers need to be smacked. |
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| 23:53.26 | sepult | my system tells me it's using almost 90% of space available, |
| 23:53.26 | sepult | which is just not true i think |
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| 23:53.48 | mns | phogg, I don't have any such things, but I just noticed that the build tags are different between the home and office version. I'm going to dig deeper. |
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| 23:54.35 | phogg | mns: drop me a /msg if you find anything interesting, will you? |
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| 23:55.17 | binrapt | I have a problem with my Debian router. It's an 1.6 GHz Atom with 2 GiB RAM on a USB stick without swap running lenny. When we're using a lot of TCP connections (1500-2000) to download stuff at 12.4 MiB/s other TCP connections start to starve. I suppose this could be solved by using QoS for IRC, HTTP, SSH, RSYNC etc. The real problem is that sometimes ALL TCP connections get dropped. |
| 23:55.29 | hagabaka | at aptitude's "resolve by hand" prompt, how do I remove all the broken packages? it says "type an action character followed by one or more package names (or patterns)", but I tried -*, -.*, and escaping the * or ., and nothing works |
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| 23:55.44 | aaronorosen | Hello i'm getting the following error when i try to run this program i installed: Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to load module "libcanberra-gtk-module.so": libcanberra-gtk-module.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 23:55.48 | LinuxGuy2009 | Are there any apps in the repos that let you mount an ISO as a virtual CD so that it can be added as a package source? |
| 23:55.49 | aaronorosen | Though I do have that file |
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| 23:56.06 | aaronorosen | arosen@dirtydancer:/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/modules$ ls libcanberra-gtk-module.so |
| 23:56.06 | aaronorosen | libcanberra-gtk-module.so |
| 23:56.12 | aaronorosen | Any ideas what this is occuring? |
| 23:56.16 | phogg | blizzow1: check the version of base-files |
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| 23:56.31 | phogg | LinuxGuy2009: mount |
| 23:56.38 | binrapt | I have no idea what is causing it, I checked htop on the router, CPU usage was only 2% at full speed, memory usage 31 MiB out of 2 GiB. I tried to ping Level 3 servers and it wouldn't work either, after a few seconds it would work again and all TCP connections were re-established. The IP on the DOCSIS3 modem was still the same, I didnt' see any special LEDs or anything lighting up. Any ideas? |
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| 23:57.21 | mns | phogg sure, will do. |
| 23:57.31 | phogg | LinuxGuy2009: mount iso_file /mount/point -o loop |
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| 23:59.57 | blizzow1 | phogg: where do I check that? |