IRC log for #debian on 20100115

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07:35.05rippedchroot into the system and then apt-get the stuff you want
07:35.11tetoncaarthur colorforth.com
07:35.47rippedhahah igor
07:35.53cheakotetonca: This home directory is over 10 years old, just gutting out the large files just would not cut it.
07:36.27tetoncahttp://colorforth.com/bio.html
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07:36.50cheakoI guess I'll have to copy paste the 3 strings for each launcher.
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07:37.03unkmarGood thing I don't need to install on THIS laptop.  It doesn't have an functional ethernet connection.
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07:37.19unkmarIt required a dang USB dongle last time I installed.
07:37.19tetoncaI've seen a video of chuck using the floor as a desk 'because there was no desk big enough'
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07:38.12cheakotetonca: I know some one like that, but for him the reason is the floor is closer then the surface of any desk.
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07:38.38unkmarI still see this as an epic fail.
07:38.47oOarthurOoI think the netinst has the basic system already. I used netinst, selected none of the options from tasksel and booted to a working debian system. If you download the deb files you need in advance, and can mount usb's or cd's from the terminal, add them to apt, you should be able to build up the wireless system that way.
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07:39.25tetoncathere's an x2x type program that will launch mouse pastes between systems on a LAN (shares mouse and keyboard with individual video displays per system)
07:39.53tetoncathat could help with the graft.
07:40.19tetoncaor just ssh to the good box from the troubled box and paste that way
07:40.35phluxAre any of you running amavisd? For some reason around 2:00 AM, Amavisd completely kills my box.. My load avgs were just hitting 8.50.. as soon as I killed it, I just watched my avgs drop to 0.01
07:40.43newsenseOrest^bnc: i do i that way too got the firmware and wireless-tools package etc
07:40.46phluxI need to figure out why this is happening :\
07:40.53newsenseerr oops
07:41.04newsenseoOarthurOo: i do i that way too got the firmware and wireless-tools package etc
07:41.59cheakoHmm, just looking at the wrong system.
07:42.13tetoncawhere do I start looking for wifi support (kernel module) for Linux on Dell Mini 9?
07:42.20newsenseif i don't have a package i need for my wireless i use my ps3 and a usb thumb drive
07:42.39newsensetetonca: lspci -nn
07:43.19newsensetetonca: find your wlan adapter and paste the info for it
07:43.22tetoncaNo I'm assuming I don't have the module available.
07:43.23oOarthurOonewsense, good to know. unkmar has hemorroids and can't sit on floors, so he's trying to do a netinst with a broadcom wireless card. Can be done, but not easily. Glad to see you've gotten it working though.
07:43.48tetoncaI have a dmesg report I'll look at on another machine.
07:43.56newsensenot hard if you know what you need firmware wise
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07:44.24tetoncasays Broadcom BCM4315
07:44.27newsensetetonca: gimme the pciid
07:44.41unkmari have all the *.fw files in the /firmware folder on the usb drive.  It doesn't load it.
07:44.42tetoncawhat's that a command?
07:45.08newsensethats good enough
07:45.42tetoncagreat tinycore didn't *have* lspci command.
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07:45.54unkmarI don't have hemorroids.  I don't like being squeezed in the hall thanks to all the crap in the floor along with leaning over causes back pain.
07:46.30tetoncaWifi works fine in tinycore; it's their 'wl' driver.
07:46.52tetoncaI think I'm asking how to get a 'wl' driver in debian.
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07:47.01tetoncaOr other wisdoms. ;)
07:47.06oOarthurOoso go to debian packages online, find the packages you need, save the debs' to the usb drive, do a minimal install using the netinst, select nothing from tasksel and it will finish. Boot into the new system, mount the usb stick, dpkg -i the necessary packages, setup and initialize wireless, and bob's your uncle.
07:47.40songerhello i'm trying to convert avi to other frmat but i can't  i got this: Unknown encoder 'libfaac'
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07:48.42tetoncaarthur was that to me?  'find  the package' is the basis of the inquiry here.
07:49.05newsensenot sure about the BCM4315
07:49.17newsensewhats the pciid
07:49.35tetoncahow do I take a pciid .. grep lspci output?
07:49.36newsensecant see that the b43 or b43legacy support it
07:49.48newsensetetonca: lspci -nn
07:49.54tetoncahold
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07:50.03newsenseyou need pciutils installed
07:50.19tetoncaI may have to grab em we'll see
07:50.45newsense!b43
07:50.45dpkg[b43] the driver for modern Broadcom 802.11g wireless chipsets, included in Linux since 2.6.24.  Firmware is required, ask me about <b43-fwcutter>.  USB devices not supported (for BCM4320, see <rndis_wlan>).  802.11b-only devices and BCM4306 rev 2 are instead supported by the <b43legacy> driver.  BCM4321/4322 (802.11n) not supported, ask about <wl>.  See also <bcm4312>.  http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx  #bcm-users on irc.freenode.net.
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07:51.17tetoncapciutils are now installing in aptitude.
07:51.24newsenseis it usb ?
07:52.04cheakotetonca: Are you looking for the wl driver?
07:52.04tetonca!wl
07:52.04dpkg[wl] Broadcom's <non-free> "hybrid" driver, supporting wireless LAN devices based on the BCM4311, BCM4312, BCM4321 (802.11n) or BCM4322 (802.11n) chipset; for x86 and x86-64 only.  Supports the BCM4312 low-power variant (PCI-ID 14e4:4315, aka "BCM4310 USB").  To install, see http://wiki.debian.org/wl .  For support of other Broadcom chipsets, ask me about <b43>.  See also <bcm4312>, <ndiswrapper>.
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07:52.11tetoncanot usb. internal.
07:52.35tetoncathat' it. bingo. THANK you.
07:52.50tetoncahit your EASY button.
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07:54.16newsensedoes that support the bcm4315 though ?
07:54.22tetoncayes.
07:54.32tetoncaI have it running it tinycore. works fine.
07:54.40newsensedid you know this all along ?
07:54.49tetoncajust thot debian would be all 'not free' about it and steer me away.
07:55.16tetoncaNo.  I didn't know how to '!wl' here.
07:55.22tetoncaThat  was the missing bit.
07:55.30newsenseomfg, i could have been in bed already
07:55.34newsensewhat an ass
07:55.53tetoncaI'm 50. I get to be an ass once in a while.
07:56.11cheakonewsense: 1:46(CST) <tetonca> I think I'm asking how to get a 'wl' driver in debian.
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07:56.21tetoncaRight.
07:56.28newsenseif you are 50 and you see me trying to figure out which driver you need you should say "hey i know which ones"
07:56.59tetoncaSorry it's not happy for you.  I do appreciate it and you did help.
07:57.06newsensemaybe senilelike a kid in school thats excited they know the answer
07:57.31cheakoThat's the responce I get every time I ask for help on step 7, I get some yahoo who thinks if he/shje walks me through step 1 my problem will be fixed.
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07:57.58tetoncaI'm in good shape here and it was a puzzle to me.
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07:59.44macrobatsonger: do what the error msg tells you and install libfaac0
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08:00.15cheakomacrobat: What about just using another encoder.
08:00.53macrobator taht ^
08:03.17unkmarso much for my seperate paritions.
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08:06.35songeri already have it
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08:15.22tetoncagood thing this is a liveCD so I don't have to keep the build evrironment on-hand.
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08:17.44tetoncaended up with:
08:17.48tetoncadpkg -Ei /usr/src/broadcom-sta-modules-2.6.26-2-686_5.10.91.9.3-2+2.6.26-19lenny2_i386.deb
08:17.48dpkgtetonca: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request
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08:18.04tetonca__dpkg -Ei /usr/src/broadcom-sta-modules-2.6.26-2-686_5.10.91.9.3-2+2.6.26-19lenny2_i386.deb
08:18.14unkmar/msg dpkg your mother dresses you funny.
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08:18.40tetoncaSo I copy that one .deb and delete the build environment.
08:19.36tetoncaThen reboot the barren LiveCD and install that one .deb.  Should address this.
08:19.38unkmarwhat is popcorn?  I mean.  I know what fluffy popped kernels of corn is but.. what is this popcorn program?
08:20.08unkmarI assume I can change that statistics setting later.
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08:23.29tetoncamodule worked. ;)
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08:44.15unomihi, can someone tell me how I can get :  header sys/event.h
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08:44.22unomiheader sys/eventfd.h, header port.h and library execinfo
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08:45.39oggeiunomi: sys/eventfd.h belongs to libc6-dev
08:46.02oggeifor others files, try http://packages.debian.org
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08:47.17chron__when i plugin /dev/sda, i want /mnt/sda to be created (like livecds) anyone know the exact program that does this?
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08:49.38miasmais there a way to disable ipv6 in debian without recompiling the kernel. i already blacklisted ipv6 and tried to disable ipv6 in modprobe's alias.conf. still, e.g. dhclient shows a ipv6 address and so does 'ip a|grep inet6'
08:50.27oggeimiasma: you can keep it but configure to not use it, eg. man gai.conf
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08:53.11unom1oggei: libc6-dev is already installed
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08:53.21oggeiunom1: so you should have sys/eventfd.h
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08:53.42vltHello. One of my hard disks, a spare device for an md raid, is in standby mode. But (at least) every day at 06:25 (that's when rsyslogd is restarted) something tries to acces it and it spins up. Any idea how to avoid this?
08:53.43unom1doing  find / -iname eventfd.h
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08:54.47oggeiunom1: no need to find, /usr/include is normal headers root
08:56.12unom1/usr/include/sys/ does not seem to have it
08:56.29oggeiso try packages.debian.org, as i'm using sid and maybe that changed
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08:59.16miasmaoggei: so setting e.g. "precedence ::ffff:0:0/96  100" and rebooting should make the system favor ipv4 over ipv6?
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09:00.20oggeimiasma: i don't remember now
09:00.24miasmaok
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09:12.16miasmaoggei: oh well, it didn't help.. i guess it's some other problem then. i noticed that my debian sid box lost network connection support in all java apps. on another debian testing box, recompiling the kernel without ipv6 support fixed the problem
09:12.42miasmasome update that appeared recently probably broke it
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09:13.44oggeimiasma: for java it's another problem
09:13.44un0mihttp://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=eventfd.h&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any
09:13.44un0mionly seeing it in the linux header
09:14.06oggeias usual you posed your personal solution instead of problem, here :P
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09:14.07oggeitry to add a sysctl like this : net.ipv6.bindv6only = 0
09:14.10oggeithat's because java and linux can't correctly agreed about v4 in v6 incapsulation or so, google with sysctl i told you
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09:14.31miasmaoggei: thanks, that helped. how is it possible that java on my box worked without that for over a year
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09:15.28oggeimiasma: probably that happened after this period
09:15.46oggeibugs do have a precise life, with a birth and a death, usually ;P
09:15.53miasmaokay :P
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09:20.18oggei(eg. bugs on sun-java6-jre, oh, what a mess :P)
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09:22.23zeldhi :)
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09:25.30linuxguy2009Im trying to learn how to build packages from source. I downloaded gedit-2.22.3.orig.tar.gz just cause its small and should be fast and easy to build a deb from for learning purposes. I read that I can simply run "./configure", "make", and the replace "make install" with "checkinstall" to build the deb. Im stuck on "./configure"...
09:25.46linuxguy2009configure: error: Enchant library not found or too old. Use --disable-spell to build without spell plugin.
09:26.35zeldO-o
09:26.35zeldlinuxguy2009:
09:26.35zeldapt-get install fakeroot
09:27.26zeldcd gedit-2.22.3/
09:27.26zeldfakeroot ./debian/rules binary
09:28.21zeldit will generate some *.deb
09:28.21zeldah..
09:28.21zeldbefore the fakeroot ./debian/rules binary
09:28.21zeldapt-get build-dep gedit
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09:28.52zeldlinuxguy2009: but, i do not understand why you have to recompile this package :)
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09:30.20zeldlinuxguy2009: debian is not gentoo or other source based distro ;)
09:30.21zelddebian is rulez \o/
09:30.28KnuckOneat first the build-dep should be installed ;)
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09:30.30zeldKnuckOne: ofcourse..but is not necessary recompile the package if you have not problem with this..
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09:30.32KnuckOneread the backlog, it's for learning purpose ;)
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09:30.36zeldfor example... i had to recompile xserver-xorg-video-ati from git source becauyse i had problem with X and kdm start :|
09:30.43zeldnow it's ok :)
09:30.48zeldKnuckOne: ofcourse
09:30.51KnuckOnebut yeah anayway, we almost never need to compile something
09:31.02zeldyep :P
09:31.12zeldand this is good :) jhaahahhahaahah
09:31.23zeldcomes from gentoo...
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09:31.55linuxguy2009What does this mean?
09:31.55linuxguy2009fakeroot is already installed. Im using the root terminal.
09:31.55linuxguy2009Im just using this source package to learn I said.
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09:32.22linuxguy2009http.us.debian.org/lenny source ?
09:32.50oggeilinuxguy2009: you have to document urself on package compilation
09:33.23oggeieg. man dpkg-buildpackage, also investigate on packages: build-essential , devscripts
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09:33.36oggeibut also read some docs googling for it
09:33.37|eagles0513875|hey guys does lenny come with grub 1 or grub2
09:37.35icerootgrub legancy by default
09:37.36sepultwith both
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09:37.39excalhi, i need some help with networking
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09:37.44excali've just moved a working debian etch install to a new motherboard
09:37.44linuxguy2009So does anyone know the line to add to sources list so I can get build deps? Instead of pointless comments cause you yourself dont know?
09:37.44excali.e., new network interface
09:37.45excalit's a realtek r8101...i've downloaded the drivers and installed in
09:37.45excaldid the whole modprobe thing to get it onto lsmod
09:37.45excalbut i can't seem to raise eth0
09:37.45miasmamaybe it's not eth0
09:37.45excalit's the only nic on the box
09:37.45sepultlinuxguy2009: you mean deb-src http:/bla ??
09:37.45excalbut, if not, any particular way to work out which one it is?
09:37.56excalifconfig doesn't suggest much
09:38.06miasmatry ifconfig ethX up
09:38.14miasmawhere X is some number
09:38.35oggeilinuxguy2009: so go rtfm checkinstall documentation if it's that you want
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09:38.50miasmaexcal: you can change the nic name though
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09:44.37excalmiasma
09:44.38excaltried that
09:44.38excalnothing works
09:44.43miasmadoes dmesg suggest anything?
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09:45.38excalyep
09:45.42excaldmesg | grep eth0
09:45.50braboexcal: maybe i missed it, bt what does 'ifconfig -a' return?
09:48.20excalreturns eth0: Realtek R8101...
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09:48.42brabothat's a good start at least
09:48.58excalhmm
09:49.02excalreturns 3 devices
09:49.07excaleth3 lo and sit2
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09:49.30excalsit0*
09:49.34oggeiso you have to rename eth0 to eth3 in interfaces(5)
09:50.44excalthanks guys
09:50.45oggeior, better, erase some udev stuff, like eth* lines in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
09:50.48excallooks like it's up
09:50.56excalbut how would i move it back to eth0?
09:51.04excalwhat you just wrote oggei?
09:51.13oggeiif you erase correct stuff and reboot, iface should be enumerated to ethN where N is first free number (then 0)
09:52.29oggeicomment out lines in files i pointed you out
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09:52.29oggeiand reboot
09:55.51braboyeah, and change the one that says at the end eth3 to eth0 too ,no?
09:55.51oggeiexcal: like http://pastebin.com/f6f1d116f
09:55.51oggeinote i commented out first one
09:55.51oggeino, cause the file get generated
09:55.52oggeijust comment out and let magic appear :P
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09:56.02braboow that's cool
09:56.02oggeiyeah
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09:56.03Roby_Hello
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09:56.03Roby_does anyone know anything about cronjobs?
09:56.04braboi know basics of cron
09:56.04brabowhat is your question?
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09:56.15Roby_well i have a script i want to execute
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09:56.47Roby_wget -O /dev/null http://192.168.37.104:8080/cron/index.php?_t=tickets, i want this to be executed every 5 minutes
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09:57.40llutzRoby_: man 5 crontab
09:57.57braboRoby_: crontab -e,  then add:  */5 * * * * wget -O /dev/null http://192.168.37.104:8080/cron/index.php?_t=tickets
09:58.19brabosave it and it should be done
09:58.24excalthanks oggei
09:58.26excalrebooting now
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09:58.46excalalthough the file was called z25-persistent-net.rules
09:58.48excalor something like that
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09:59.20oggeiexcal: i was remember z25 too but i found a 70, something changed ad some point
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09:59.30oggeianyway, ok :P
09:59.40NoReflexHey guys! I tried some dockers (cairo, awn, docky) and none is able to maximize a minimized window when I use drag and drop. For example I have a file in an archive that I want to extract to a folder. That folder is open but its window is minimized. If I drag that file over the minimized icon of the folder it should maximize the window so I can drop the file - but it doesn't. I'm using gnome.
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10:04.03yanchoanyone can please help me with bonding 2 x teams of NICs ? (4 in all) bond0 works .. bond1 fails with this error :  http://pastebin.ca/1752210 - i am also pasting the current configuration .. thanks loads!
10:04.03Roby_Brabo, ive entered this. do i need to start cron or something or is it running automaticly in background?
10:04.04oggeiexcal: it got renamed in 0.124-1
10:04.30NoReflexthis seems like a xorg (gnome?) problem rather than a dock problem
10:04.53project2501athat's your problem. you're using gnome
10:04.53project2501aapt-get install enlightenment
10:07.23NoReflexproject2501a: will try enlightenment
10:07.23excaloh ok
10:07.23excalyeah, running etch
10:07.23excaleth0 seems to be up
10:07.23excali can ping out
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10:07.24oggeiyancho: again, clean up your config using ifupdown hooks
10:07.49braboRoby_: it is active
10:07.49braboRoby_: check in 5 mins to make sure it ran as you wanted it to
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10:09.22yanchooggei: what do u mean with that please?
10:09.24NoReflexproject2501a: how do I "start" enlightenment after installing it? do I have to reboot?
10:09.24oggeii suspect problem is in modules aliases
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10:09.27oggeiyancho: as i told you yesterday, you should read /usr/share/doc/ifenslave-2.6/README.Debian
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10:09.30project2501aright, my bad
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10:10.06porteralcohol: i'm laging too, its the hub
10:10.12niklasweif i have remove an printer i cups.. must windows client be rebooted to get the "new" uppdate?
10:10.12porterterrible
10:10.13alcohol:(
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10:11.10porterbabum
10:11.14porter:-)
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10:14.17dpkgYes, alcohol, you are online.
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10:14.19Supaplexlagtastic eh
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10:14.42alcohol3 minute reply from dpkg
10:14.44alcohol:<
10:14.51Supaplex!lag
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10:15.14tuvwhat is the proper way of running a dhcp server when an interface is brought up?
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10:16.02Supaplexdhcpd should start after interfaces. not part of ifup/ifdown
10:16.07gcosminhi, my Gnome crashes after I switch betwin windows with Alt + Tab.
10:16.18SupaplexRossonero: infobot, blootbot
10:16.24dpkgi heard lag is the reason fnord has so many meanings
10:16.28gcosminDo you know what can I do in order to make it stabile.
10:16.36RossoneroSupaplex, thanks
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10:18.10gcosminIt's a bit annoyng.
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10:18.33braboRoby_: and does it work?
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10:20.52gcosminAnd afther that I get the an error that is saing it cant start X.
10:20.54gcosminHow can I solve this issue?
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10:22.35PirateroHello everyone.
10:22.56Supaplexgreetings
10:23.21PirateroI don't have Debian installed, but I'm writing a script that uses Debian's version of adduser. Is there a place where I can find the latest version of the adduser and adduser.conf manpage?
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10:23.33PirateroI don't necessarily trust the results I got from Google.
10:23.58yanchothanks alot oggei : worked fine!
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10:24.11oggeiyeah
10:24.11themillPiratero: manpages.debian.net, or download the package yourself from packages.debian.org
10:24.22SupaplexPiratero: packages.debian.org/adduser maybe
10:24.48PirateroAh, thank you both!
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10:27.20snicoregood day!
10:27.36brabohey snicore
10:27.51vltHello. One of my hard disks, a spare device for an md raid, is in standby mode. But (at least) every day at 06:25 (that's when rsyslogd is restarted) something tries to access it and it spins up. Any idea how to avoid this?
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10:32.32unkmaravoid which part
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10:33.14unkmaravoid the spinup?
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10:36.38darkskiezvlt: syslog has no knowledge of your raid, so i dont think its that, but other daily cron jobs run at that time
10:37.31darkskiezvlt: mdadm might restart, its about the only thing that would interface to the disk intentionally as part of the raid, tho,
10:38.00darkskiezvlt: i suspect something, like maybe an lvm tool or something, is scanning /dev/sd[abc] and causing the drive to spin up.
10:38.01cheakovlt: Likely offenders.  hal, udev, smart, hdtemp, any other application that would have reason to scan disk devices on restart.
10:38.42cheakomdmon?
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10:41.36unkmar!ping
10:41.36dpkgYes, unkmar, you are online.
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10:44.59cheakoPing reply from vlt : 0.99 second(s)
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10:46.19cheakoIs there a repository of icons some where?
10:46.57cheakoI keep choosing icons belonging to some application and then they are removed/altered when it's upgraded or removed.
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10:47.56cheakoOne patch I'd suggest is to keep icons provided by applications in a folder other then the default for applications that choose icons...  /usr/share/pixmaps
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10:56.16valdyncheako: all of those are for applications
10:56.21tetoncaI have the wl module written to the persistence image of debian live and no build environment left hanging around. Net gain probably 10MB.
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11:01.50cheakovaldyn: ...then why is the default for gnome panel to used icons from that folder?
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11:02.52cheakoIs there a policy or rule/guide that dictates nothing but icons belonging to a package for an application can be in this folder?
11:02.58loiseau974hi
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11:04.47vltdarkskiez, cheako: The device is blacklisted (and tested) in lvm.conf. So it must be something else. I'll check cron.daily ... Thank you
11:06.13darkskiezvlt: brute force test - rm /dev/sdx  ?
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11:08.20cheakoI found my panel launchers in ~/.gnome2/panel2.d/default/launchers
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11:09.33cheakovlt: strace -f -e trace=file cron 2>&1 | grep sdx
11:09.45cheakoerr, crond.
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11:10.46tetoncacheako, were they easily ported to the other box?
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11:12.37cheakotetonca: No, I just used the data from these files and copy pasted it.
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11:13.09tetoncaDid it work well on the target?
11:13.31cheakoAdding things into the panel using gconf-editor is a non-trivial task and then having to make these files on top of that makes it just vary messy.
11:13.41cheakoSure.
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11:14.16cheakoI used the add custom application launcher on the target.
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11:15.02Roby_brabo, ure still here?
11:15.15tetoncaThanks.
11:15.21braboRoby_: yes i am
11:15.34Roby_Thanks for helping me with the CRON. it works now! =D
11:15.39amee2khm... what exactly is used by startx to determine whether a user is allowed to run X or not?
11:15.48braboRoby_: sweet ^^, you're welcome :)
11:15.50unkmarnow I could use some help getting my wireless drivers installed.
11:16.29unkmarnevermind.  I just looked at dmesg.
11:16.38amee2ki'm trying to make X auto-start as a specific user. when i log in as that user, it works fine. but calling startx as that user through su -c in an init script fails
11:17.42cheakoamee2k: That's correct.
11:17.54cheakoread Xwrapper.conf
11:18.05amee2kalso, running the exact same su command from a logged in root shell works as well
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11:18.18cheakoPerhaps you just want to use a display manager.
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11:18.24likevinylis away: Un pedante es un estúpido corrompido por los estudios
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11:18.35cheakoamee2k: also correct.
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11:18.56cockroachhi. i have a working infrastructure using ldap authentication (gentoo boxes) and i would like to connect a debian box to it. basic lookups (ldapsearch, id, groups, ...) work but trying to log in i get 'error trying to bind as user [...] (Invalid credentials)"
11:19.01cockroachany idea, anyone?
11:19.24unkmarI don't understand where it expects the ucode4.fw file to be.
11:19.33amee2kcheako: since noone else will ever need to use X (its a semi-headless system used for showcasing a video without keyboard or mouse) i was hoping to get around a fully blown display manager
11:20.09tetoncaxinit is lower level than startx
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11:20.17tetoncathey're both scripts
11:20.35cheakoThe problem is X must be run as root.
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11:20.48tetoncaI usually copy startx to home directory and modify the copy.
11:21.06oggeiamee2k: what about mplayer -vo svga videofile ? :P
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11:21.35cheakoI have a setup like that, I just use gdm's autologin feature.
11:21.51tetoncaI'll be darned.  I can set the backlight brightness on the mini 9.
11:22.01amee2koggei: hm... we're using VLC because of its web user interface right now. if there is a similar feature for mplayer, it would be an option
11:22.07cheakoIf you want you can see if xdm has an autologin feature.
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11:22.27oggeiamee2k: the sense is to bypass X and use svga for video playing
11:22.49oggeivlc probably can do the same
11:22.59amee2khm... it says allowed_users=console in my Xwrapper.config. so the init scripts run with no controlling tty?
11:23.00docmaxhello, i have problems with standby on my laptop. i think it was after a kernel update. what can i do? the screen goes blank, but laptop doesnt go to standby.
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11:23.23cheakosvga does not acceleration.
11:23.41cheakobut directfb might.
11:23.41cockroachamee2k: slim can do auto-login and it's pretty lightweight
11:24.05cheakoStill with svga you need to be root.
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11:25.02unkmarI have some really odd window lag.
11:25.27cheakoamee2k: Simply using a pty will not solve this.  If you insist on not using a DM, set this to any...
11:25.41cheakomake a group for users who can run X.
11:26.10tetoncathat makes sense
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11:26.42lumisjust trying to get XVideo to work with my Intel card (using the Vesa driver,) xvinfo says there are no adapters present, and I've grepped Xorg.0.log which says that the xv module doesn't exist... anyone know what I'm doing wrong?
11:26.55cheakoset the permitions on the Xwrapper script to r-xr-x--- and put in in that group(keep the users as root)
11:26.59docmaxhello, i have problems with standby on my laptop. i think it was after a kernel update. what can i do? the screen goes blank, but laptop doesnt go to standby.
11:27.03lumisI've installed libxv1, libxvmc1 etc
11:28.00cheakolumis: Vesa driver is frame buffer only.  It will never do xvideo or any type of acceleration.
11:28.10lumischeako: Great, thanks :)
11:28.10amee2kcheako: right. just set it to any and it works. thanks for the xwrapper hint :)
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11:28.51cheako:) :)
11:29.14amee2kxdm does not appear to support auto logins, but i am considering using some other dm if this is project is going to show any non-trivial progress
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11:29.42cheakoIt's a good idea.
11:29.56lumischeako: yup, switched to the intel driver and all's well! I was using the Vesa driver because I couldn't get the resolution above 1024x768 with Intel, but maybe I'll look into it more
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11:30.30amee2kfor the moment i think the security risk is minimal since there are no unstrusted logins
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11:33.58amee2kalso left a note in the what-should-be-documentation so ppl have no excuse not to know that there is an ugly fix in place ;)
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11:35.30unkmarThis is not going to work.   I can't see what I type and I know that it is responding because I see it on my OTHER latop.
11:35.47unkmarany idea why this xterm is lagging?
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11:36.55kripzAnybody know where i can find the source code for urlgrabber? http://linux.duke.edu/projects/urlgrabber/download/
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11:40.21unkmarI am not happy with the layout of the file browser.
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11:40.46Martin_vWHello. I want to restore the original version of /etc/debian_version from the package base-files. Can anyone explain to me how to restore modified configuration files?
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11:42.11unkmarthe file browser is cryptic.  tells me disk but doesn't tell me WHERE it is.
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11:42.46unkmarI don't like the new layout of nautilus.
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11:43.00unkmarand I don't know how to set it like it was under ubuntu.
11:43.02oggeiso open a bug against gnome bugtracker
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11:45.17Kk2hello, how i install gcc 3.4.2 on debian?
11:45.39streuner__judd, versions gcc
11:45.40juddstreuner__: gcc -- etch: 4:4.1.1-15 lenny: 4:4.3.2-2 squeeze: 4:4.3.4-1 sid: 4:4.4.2-3
11:46.05streuner__Why do you need 3.4.2?
11:46.13Kk2for compile a very specific ircd
11:46.22Kk2and didnt compile in 4.*
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11:46.45oggeiyou can install gcc-3.4 but also in that case there is only 3.4.6
11:46.58Kk2no problems
11:46.58Kk2can be 3.4.6
11:46.59Kk2will work
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11:47.39Kk2how i install?
11:47.59oggeiinstalling gcc-3.4 package ?
11:48.16Kk2yeah, whats the command? apt-get install gcc-3.4?
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11:49.01oggeigo for it :P
11:49.19Kk2apt-get install gcc-3.4
11:49.19Kk2Reading package lists... Done
11:49.19Kk2Building dependency tree... Done
11:49.19Kk2E: Couldn't find package gcc-3.4
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11:49.22Kk2E: Couldn't find package gcc-3.4
11:49.23Kk2]:(
11:49.51unkmarwaits for vim to install.
11:50.04oggeiyou really don't have to paste here, using natural language is enough
11:50.15oggeijudd, versions gcc-3.4
11:50.16juddoggei: gcc-3.4 -- etch: 3.4.6-5 lenny: 3.4.6-9
11:50.16Kk2rsrsrs, help me plx how to install it
11:51.03oggeiso you have to put at least current stable repositories to sources.list, you don't have it ?
11:51.29Kk2no i dont ]:/
11:52.09fishspongehello! does anyone know if the XFS file system have an inode limit??
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11:53.59Kk2apt-get install gcc-3.4 it works haha
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11:57.20miasmapinkisntwell: if you use startx, add it to .xinitrc on your home directory
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11:57.38pinkisntwelli use kdm (i think)
11:57.49miasmacan't remember. check kdm's manuals
11:58.04pinkisntwellthe manual doesn't say
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11:58.23miasmapinkisntwell: the ?dm applications have their configuration files somewhere
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12:01.11Roland-hey. I get suddenly an error that the filesystem is readonly...
12:01.20Roland-and fastab has no such setting
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12:03.54some_nick_321Hello. On latest Sid the tapping with my touchpad stopped working. http://paste.pocoo.org/show/165666/ Can anyone give any hints? :)
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12:05.34oggeisome_nick_321: are you using synaptics driver ?
12:05.44some_nick_321oggei: I hope so
12:06.01oggeilot of defaults got changed
12:06.02some_nick_321I can't figure out from the output :)
12:06.52some_nick_321But it seems so, the other drivers don't load
12:06.54oggeii resolved adding some options in inputdevice stanza: http://pastebin.com/f59e0e0af don't know if they are all needed and stuff but they're working
12:07.28oggei(also for right scrolling area)
12:07.40unkmarI am getting notification of a Thai language updates.  How do I remove the other language support cause I don't want to waste my drive space on languages I can't read anyway.
12:07.41some_nick_321I don't use a xorg.conf, it got PITA to update for my USB wireless mouse with each change to evdev
12:07.57unkmardoesn't matter how correctly it is displayed if it is only gibberish to me.
12:08.00some_nick_321(I use my mouse less frequently than the configuration changes)
12:09.12oggeiah, i didn't saw your paste, dunno then
12:09.22some_nick_321It seems that Xorg started ignoring the configuration in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/11-x11-synaptics.fdi
12:11.21Martin_vWHello. I want to restore the original version of /etc/debian_version from the package base-files. This file is not a normal file, but listed as a configuration file in the packages conffiles file. Can anyone explain to me how to restore modified configuration files to their default state?
12:11.33some_nick_321OK I've got an idea
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12:14.37babilen_some_nick_321: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_the_TrackPoint --> "xinput" and "udev"
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12:15.03babilen_some_nick_321: there might be better documentation around, so let me know when you find some. But this should provide some pointers
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12:16.20some_nick_321babilen: OK, so the documentation in hal is no longer used, and I have to configure it through udev? Thanks :)
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12:17.08babilensome_nick_321: The article states that udev will be deprecated too and that "This method will be gone (_again_) in not too long so it might be a better idea to use xinput way. YMMV."
12:17.45some_nick_321OK xinput or udev? xinput works for me, but udev would guarantee that my touchpad will work during the login screen, right? :)
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12:18.30babilensome_nick_321: I don't watch the Xorg configuration development that closely, but xinput (or gpointing-device-settings) work. I have not yet spend time to figure out how to configure this using some configuration files.
12:18.34babilensome_nick_321: good luck
12:18.55Trewasbabilen: udev is not going anywhere, but I guess that particular way of configuring whatever may change...
12:18.57some_nick_321Thanks :)
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12:19.48some_nick_321I'll try to have both xinput and udev configuration, in case something changes. Thank you very much :)
12:20.18babilenTrewas: yes - i was referring to the "use udev to configure input devices for Xorg"-method ... should have made that more clear
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12:23.38EugenAhi, i'm new to debian and i installed it in virtualbox. Problem: i cannot access webserver on it
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12:24.57EugenAoh.. wrong ip.. it works now.
12:25.19brabo;)
12:25.24babilen!next
12:25.25dpkgAnother happy customer leaves the building.
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12:27.54unkmarEugenA: your virtualbox is likely not apart of your network.
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12:28.16unkmarEugenA: can't access your local webserver or any outside locations?
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12:29.22SamaseonHi, I have debian lenny. Sound works after I do alsaconf; alsactl store, but not after boot, how do I fix this?
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12:30.30SamaseonI have a proper /etc/modprobe.d/sound file, my own solution would have been to run update-modules but it is "deprecated and should not be used"
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12:31.04SamaseonSo how do I make my sound config work after boot?
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12:38.03EugenAhm.. i set 2 times IP in network settings, after reboot i have "roaming mode activated" and another ip is set!
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12:40.22unkmarEugenA: if it does me that way.  I'll reinstall without Desktop so that I don't get the gnome crap and then install OpenBox and use my cli wireless tools.
12:40.47unkmarthe gui tools do not work well for me. Too automated.
12:41.08unkmaractually, automated in ways that haven't worked as I like.
12:41.39EugenAok, than i could disable gui network manager
12:41.56leejongwookdoes anyone have geforce 8600 ?
12:42.23EugenAhow? :-) i need that system for some testing, apache, mysql and php
12:42.23leejongwooki just got geforce 8600, need a little help @_@
12:43.16unkmarwhat kind of IP did you set, and where?
12:43.29unkmaryou are the one working within a virtualbox?
12:44.12unkmaroh, and disabling the gui network manager is slightly easier said than done.  Have to sudo killall 2 processes.
12:44.31Samaseonleejongwook, check this: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
12:44.48leejongwookSamaseon, thanks :)
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12:45.09unkmarEugenA: I am a very cli based person so.. Um, my solution miht not be for you.
12:45.15leejongwookSamaseon, oops i was watching the same page @_@
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12:45.26oggeiyou can also simply configure correctly once network manager and stop
12:45.32babilen!tell leejongwook -about ait
12:45.43unkmarI like the gui for my web surfing, videos and pixel space for lots of xterm room.
12:45.45Samaseonleejongwook, i installed lenny a few days ago, and the advice on that page worked, but i have 7600 something
12:45.57babilenleejongwook: /msg dpkg <topic> for specific information on radeon, radeonhd and fglrx
12:46.00oggeiif you only need a static ip config then configure it and use your vm for what you have to
12:46.08leejongwookSamaseon, thanks :)
12:46.08EugenAunkmar: so, i uninstalled networkmanager. How can i configure ip, dns and gateway?
12:46.12babilenleejongwook: i would also suggest to read the wiki peade
12:46.22leejongwookbabilen, thanks :)
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12:46.42babilenleejongwook: ah - off by one vendor ;-)
12:46.52leejongwooktoo much things to read and test on to get my video card work property @_@
12:46.53EugenAunkmar: i'm the only person working on that system
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12:47.02babilen!tell leejongwook -about nvidia
12:47.15babilenleejongwook: I would suggest the "pre-built" or "m-a" method
12:47.40babilenleejongwook: sorry for the confusion
12:47.50leejongwook:)
12:49.25unkmarEugenA: ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.99 netmask 255.255.255.0
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12:49.48leejongwookEu gen A ? sounds like Korean name
12:49.48unkmarEugenA: route add default gw 192.168.1.1
12:49.51oggeieugena: this is NOT correct method for manually configuring networking in debian
12:50.05oggeiEugenA: correct method is man 5 interfaces
12:50.05EugenA:-)
12:50.10oggeiusing /etc/network/interfaces
12:50.34oggei(also, ifconfig and route got deprecated)
12:50.39unkmarEugenA: I'm accustom to ubuntu.  he is probably right.
12:50.56oggeiit's obviously the same in ubuntu, unkmar
12:51.10unkmarapparently not quite yet.
12:51.40oggeiseems very very strange to me
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12:52.10unkmarthen again, depcrated doesn't mean it doesn't work anymore.  it means it won't work in the future at some point.
12:52.25oggei(note i'm speaking about a better, generally available method, not your way of doing things)
12:53.19EugenAso, i should begin to read man 5 interfaces..
12:53.45oggeiit's really the way you should want for doing that, EugenA
12:53.53unkmarI've used that with 6.06  very static.
12:54.32unkmarthat would be the right way for a virtualbox since the device will always be there.
12:54.46unkmarI am usually setting a wireless device.  wlan0 so... it isn't always there.
12:55.21oggeiif you want to document yourself, you can build a very complex logic based on interfaces(5) and ifupdown hooks
12:55.25don_martinofor my machines i'd like to add a little patch to the debian kernel. i extracted the orig-tarball and applied the debian patch and applied my own patch. now i'd like to build an updated linux-image package. but i think if i ran dpkg-buildpackage i'd end up building _all_ linux-image packages, including all architectures (which would propably result in an error). how can i tell dpkg-buildpackage to build only for my architecture?
12:55.35oggeianyway, you can also accomplish very well using ifconfig/route and stuff
12:55.41unkmarI also have to hotswap between dhcp and static at times.
12:55.46oggeiuuuh :P
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12:56.40oggeiunkmar: when i'm facing a new setup problem, first question i pose to myself is "i'm the only having this problem in the world, or maybe someone already built something smart for doing that?"
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12:57.00oggeiand lot of time i find something smart for doing smart things
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12:57.03Samaseonhow do I make my sound config permanent in debian lenny, anyone?
12:57.18EugenAoggei: so, i heard now for the first time about interfaces. How long do you think will it take until i got these three simple things running - ip, dns, gateway ?
12:57.49oggeiEugenA: the time you need for writing 4/5 lines of text, i suppose
12:58.13oggei(debian installer usually fill that file for you, anyway)
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12:59.07EugenAare there no cli utilities which could write these 5 lines for me?
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12:59.53oggeignome networking stuff can produce well formed, basic interfaces(5) files iirc
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13:00.04oggeino network manager, network config stuff
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13:00.39EugenAi'm sure, finding the correct sytaxt, options for that 5 lines would take hours examining the documentation
13:00.52EugenAsyntax
13:01.00oggeino it wouldn't
13:01.01unkmaractually only about 5 minutes.
13:01.12unkmarEugenA: man interfaces
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13:01.25unkmarEugenA: spend a few minutes looking at it and you should be done.
13:01.26EugenA5 minutes - only if i would see an example with default config
13:02.09EugenAok, lets see that happens
13:02.20unkmarthere is a default config example that man page.
13:02.32oggeiwhen you installed debian, debian installer asked you for network parms
13:02.35Justinunkmar: not really
13:02.41oggeiso maybe you _already_ have correct infos in that file
13:02.59unkmarJustin: partially.  enough so that I could do it again.
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13:03.28unkmarbetween it and the pre-existing interfaces file.
13:03.48oggeiEugenA, anyway, type :      echo -e 'iface eth0 inet static\n\taddress 192.168.1.0\n\tnetmask 255.255.255.0\n\tgateway 192.168.1.1'
13:03.59oggeiand enjoy your super complicated syntax file example
13:04.16oggei(with an error you have to correct by yourself :P)
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13:05.12unkmarLOL. I see the error. :P
13:05.49EugenAso, i wrote some lines in config file
13:05.57EugenAdo i need to restart networking?
13:06.03oggeiunkmar: for you i'll paste a more complex one if you want to embed some logic inside
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13:07.28EugenAeth0 is not up
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13:08.01d1bEugenA: ifconfig eth0 up
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13:08.57oggeiunkmar: http://pastebin.com/f3d65bb41
13:09.19oggeithis is my setup for having different profiles based on choices or environment
13:09.36EugenAd1b: thanks
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13:10.46unkmarthat is an interfaces file?  wow.  I didn't know it could do that.
13:11.00d1b+1
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13:11.25EugenAoggei: no success
13:11.28oggeiinterfaces files with hooks from bridge-utils, guessnet and other stuff
13:11.43Kk2when i install tcl from apt-get where will be libtcl.so?
13:11.44oggei(festival is very ok :PPPP)
13:12.05oggeiEugenA: provide details
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13:12.14EugenAoggei: i have: http://pastebin.com/m4fa10cc6
13:12.41oggeiunkmar: for example i can use ifup wlan0 and let guessnet choose, or use eg. ifup wlan0=wlan0-casati if i want to force a profile
13:12.44oggeiand so on
13:13.26oggeiEugenA: file lacks "auto eth0", this way eth0 don't get configured at boot
13:13.33simonrvnKk2: dpkg -L packagename; man dpkg
13:13.35oggei(but if you give ifup eth0, it works)
13:14.01unkmarshould I be using apt-get or is something else suggested?
13:14.06Kk2thx simonrvn
13:14.35d1b!aptitude
13:14.38dpkgwell, aptitude is a terminal-based package manager that can be used in a command-line mode (aptitude install foo ; aptitude remove goo) as well as a text user interface mode (just run "aptitude").  Ask me about <why aptitude> <why not aptitude> <aptitude-fu> or see http://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude
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13:15.20ribasushiick I think none of that came through
13:15.24ribasushihow can I set up a nightly downloader
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13:15.26ribasushiwhich will download all new versions of packages installed
13:15.28ribasushi*without* marking them as upgraded etc
13:15.32ribasushibasically what I want is to have a snapshot of sorts in /var/cache/apt
13:15.36ribasushiso when I actually upgrade to something, and the current version is totally fucked,
13:15.38ribasushiI can go back to something inbetween even though it's not in the repos anymroe
13:15.43Kk2how i unninstal something with apt-get?
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13:15.51d1bribasushi: put /var/cache/apt into git
13:15.59unkmarKk2: apt-get remove or purge
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13:16.02Kk2thx
13:16.14ribasushid1b: this is rather misguided
13:16.22d1bribasushi: hardly.
13:16.27ribasushiwhy do I need a VCS when apt already provides me with one
13:16.37ribasushiwhat I need is stuff to be *downloaded* into there without me doing naything
13:16.39unkmarKk2: I think purge removes the .deb files that would be in the cache.
13:16.48d1bribasushi: i do not know if you can ask for a specific version.
13:16.49orzelhello. It seems that my spamassasin rules are not updated when I do "sa-update" by hand or when the cron job is started....nothing is changed in /usr/share/spamassassin, and the old rules are still used, even after restarting spamd...... anyone has had this issue ?
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13:17.05ribasushid1b: please read my question again
13:17.12d1bribasushi: i did
13:17.20ribasushiI want to download latest and greatest, every night, but do not install them
13:17.28d1bribasushi: apt-get -d
13:17.29oggeisu read manual, -d flag
13:17.30ribasushithe apt scripts already know how to keep the cache N days old
13:17.49ribasushid1b: thank you will try
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13:18.14unkmarribasushi: man apt-get and you would see that it can download without installing.
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13:18.44ribasushihm hm hm ... so I need to loop through my currently installed list
13:18.45unkmarribasushi: the synaptic manager also provides that option. (I think)
13:18.48ribasushiand call apt-get -d on each
13:18.56oggeianyway using /var/cache/apt/blah is not very fhs compliant
13:19.15ribasushioggei: fhs?
13:19.17oggeicause you don't want to lost contents, but /var/cache is cache, not a spool
13:19.18unkmarfhs?
13:19.26oggeifilesystem hierarchy standard
13:19.44oggeiso is very ymmv
13:19.51ribasushioggei: basically what I want is e.g. to have a midnight commander to which I can fallback
13:20.04ribasushiinstead of the current testing version which is broken
13:20.20oggeiyou can investigate reprepro, mirroring just parts you want
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13:20.40ribasushianyway /var/cache is what I need
13:20.42oggeireplicating a "volatile" local repository with any number of version of any number of packages
13:20.48oggeino, it is not, you will see
13:20.49oggei:)
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13:21.12unkmaroggei: is right. That is not a good way to do it.
13:21.14ribasushibtw keeping general files in git - what fanboi-sm
13:21.15ribasushiinsane
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13:21.33ribasushifsvs/svn-repo-format are designed for a reason
13:21.39ambuli__apt-cache search pkgname gives only the package name, how to find what version is available ?
13:21.51oggeifirst time you will get short on space and do and apt-get clean you'll loose pkg or have to manually save in other places
13:21.58oggeiambuli__: apt-cache policy <pkg>
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13:22.50ribasushioggei: well yeah, why do you think I'm dumb enough to do that? :)
13:23.19ribasushi(or for that matter why do you think the cahe isn't on a separate partition)
13:24.17ambuli__oggei,  what does it mean Candidate: version number
13:24.29EugenAso, my network still doesn't work. How do i restart network?
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13:25.13unkmarI wouldn't copy, I'd make links and not symlinks.  that would keep the files from being removed when cache is purged.
13:25.16oggeiribasushi: is anyway not clean, but you're btw free of doing what you want, (mis)using software :P
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13:25.33unkmarand it wouldn't consume additional drive space.
13:25.33EugenAso, after restart ifconfig shows right ip
13:25.55oggeiambuli__: candidate means that if you install this package, by default candidate version will be installed.
13:26.17unkmarbut that is just the best thought that comes to mind without researching.
13:26.20EugenAbut i cannot access my gateway
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13:26.48oggeiambuli__: you can btw alter this behaviour in many ways, if you want
13:27.00Argafalmutt
13:27.06Argafalshit, i apologize
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13:27.18unkmarEugenA: what ip was showing when it was doing DHCP?
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13:27.36oggeiah, EugenA: you do have dhcp ? :D
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13:28.07unkmaroggei: he has the debian inside a virtual box.
13:28.21oggeiso ?
13:28.33zignigBLEH
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13:29.03unkmaroggei: EugenA: the virtualbox is likely set to provide a local ip between host and virtual machine.  Not LAN access, only NAT translation for internet.
13:29.05oggei(i use virtualbox but i bridge with host, no dhcp)
13:29.23oggeiit depends on (mis)configurations made by user
13:29.36EugenAoggei: http://pastebin.com/m12b09891
13:29.45unkmarexactly, which is why I made changes to my questions very early on.
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13:30.01nsadminsomehow you hve to bridge... if it's a single transparent bridge, the dhcp server can be outside the box
13:30.22EugenAoggei: yes, i have dhcp. Before i removed network-manager i got 192.168.1.3 and everything was OK
13:30.33EugenAbut i want to have 1.111
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13:30.50oggeiEugenA: you know for sure your gw is .199 ?
13:30.52EugenAi don't use dhcp
13:30.53unkmarok, so he had virtualbox properly configured.
13:30.58EugenAoggei: yes
13:31.14EugenAmy host is running with such settings (opensuse)
13:31.29oggeiok, but wait
13:31.36EugenAso, guest should also run with these settings
13:31.46nsadminso you can do a static interface]
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13:31.54oggeiyou have to put guest NIC on a bridge that can send frames to your host lan
13:32.04paradoxmonkeyWhat filesystem would be best for a file server (performance/security)?
13:32.08oggeiotherwise you obviously can't communicate with .199 lan
13:32.32nsadminI thought I already said that :)
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13:32.47oggeiah ok, sorry, you're right
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13:33.05EugenAoggei: with networkmanager i could access virtual host with browser
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13:33.16nsadminwhich is true whetehr he does static or dhcp
13:33.42EugenAoggei: i think the config file is wrong
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13:33.48BriGehttp://www.lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139723800 New TORENT.
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13:34.31unkmaris BriGe suppose to be doing that?
13:34.49unkmarby doing.  I mean that isn't the first time.
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13:35.33nsadmin!ops n=engals@87.110.231.63 BriGe offering torrent
13:35.33dpkgHydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: nsadmin complains about: n=engals@87.110.231.63 BriGe offering torrent
13:35.59nsadminsince it's not here you'd have to see if it's a net issue and possibly gline
13:36.00oggeilunch time cya
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13:36.48nsadminyou might want to ban it; client is still present on the net
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13:37.53unkmaroggei: Europe?
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13:39.08Maulkinhrm
13:39.45Maulkintomaw: Want to have a poke at BriGe ?
13:40.34tomawMaulkin: hrm, will do
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13:44.30BriGehttp://www.lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139723800 Please everybody click on this site.. thats not a virus
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13:44.35kemerteni'm searching for a app that shows the read/write-rate of a process. Can anyone can name me such a program?
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13:46.09jellykemerten: iotop
13:46.17EugenAoggei: so, i took another config found in internet: http://pastebin.com/m71f32f2d
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13:46.29EugenAoggei: this did not work also
13:46.39EugenAi'll switch back to network manager
13:47.07joltcandpkg: ops BriGe is continusly spamming some gaming site
13:47.08dpkgHydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: joltcan complains about: BriGe is continusly spamming some gaming site
13:47.24EugenAbecause i cannot spend 1,5 hours only to setup ip on a system, i need to do another things
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13:48.48kemertenthanks alot jelly! that was exactly what i was searching for.
13:49.04unkmarls
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13:49.07oggeiunkmar: yeah, italy
13:49.08unkmarsorry.
13:49.18oggei(got very little lunch time)
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13:49.42paradoxmonkeyHow stable is the ext4 support in the linux kernel?
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13:50.24artagnonThe git-core 1:1.6.5-1 doesn't come with SSL support compiled in. Some people use GMail accounts to send patches. Should I file a bug report against git-core?
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13:56.53unkmarHmm, I'm having nvidia problems.
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13:57.37unkmarthe xorg.conf file that I used with ubuntu 9.04 isn't working with this debian.  And this is after installing nvidia-settings and nvidia-xconfig
13:58.03unkmarI also had attempted nvidia-xconfig and got similar results.
13:58.46oggeihave you installed nvidia-glx ?
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14:00.33unkmaryes, already installed.
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14:01.55unkmarthe NVIDIA does a GPU probe and says no devices detected.
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14:03.04Ar4ijhttp://www.lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139723800 I  need 20 votes and then I will no longer spam   http://www.lostworlds.lv/go.php?1139723800 I  need 20 votes and then I will no longer spam
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14:05.33unkmarBriGe is back as Ar4iJ.  go by the IP.
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14:05.45junkany special channel for bash scripting? or can i ask it here?
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14:06.13tarzeaujunk: here's fine
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14:07.11junkok tarzeau: i want to creat a script that opens a dir. unrar e's a file but somehow: cd *somedirnamehere* | ls >> info.txt <-- isn't working
14:07.53docmaxhello, i have problems with standby on my laptop. i think it was after a kernel update. what can i do? the screen goes blank, but laptop doesnt go to standby.
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14:08.59unkmarjunk: cause it is wrong.  try cd *somedirnamehere* && ls >> info.txt
14:09.18junkah ill try thanks unkmar
14:09.22unkmarjunk: without the word try.
14:10.01user__hello i have a laptop with one partition for drivers ,one for windows vista,and i have anothere windows vista and debian,i 'v installed windows 7 ,how can i rescue my debian partition
14:10.41unkmarjunk: | is for sending information from one process to another.  nothing is returned from a cd command and ls doesn't take anything from stdin.
14:10.57junkgood point =.='
14:11.01junkthanks for the explanation
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14:11.56unkmarjunk: ; is used for seperating commands, && is a boolean that says do this and do that.  So, the second command doesn't execute unless the first does successfully.
14:12.39junkso when my next move would be unrar e *somefile* i'd have to use another &&
14:13.05junk; makes 2 commands work at the same time and && waits for the first one to finish right?
14:13.10unkmarjunk: I assumed it would be pointless to execute the ls command if you failed to change directories. so I used &&
14:13.51unkmarwith ; they commands execute as if on seperate lines in the script.
14:14.01unkmarone after the other.
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14:14.23paradoxmonkeyAnyone who has used JFS with Debian?
14:15.06unkmarjunk: the && makes the process a conditional.  Only do the second thing if the first worked.
14:15.19junkunkmar so if i have say: 30 maps and i want to open them unrar something copy the output to a new directory i'd do --> cd *mapname* && unrar *filename* && cp *foo* *bar* ; cd *mapname* etc
14:15.46unkmarjunk: there is an if command you can use.
14:16.17sephyWill a netbook with a 280 atom cpu and 1gb ram be powerful enough to run a mailserver with squirrel mail, postfix and dovecot on a debian system?
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14:17.08Innocentushi all
14:17.13Innocentusanyone online
14:17.20unkmarjunk: man bash   Then search for: if list.  /if list
14:17.31junkk ty
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14:18.22unkmarInnocentus: no, none of us online. :P
14:18.48Innocentushi all
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14:20.15jellysephy: depends on the traffic it needs to handle and the performance of attached storage.
14:21.39jellysephy: I'm currently using a P2 300MHz machine to manage mail and web for a single domain with 20ish users.
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14:24.27unkmarok, I found the error.  now to figure out how to fix it and if it needs fixing.
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14:25.56unkmarIt detects my NVIDIA GeForce2 Go GPU and then states it is *already* under Legacy drivers. so it is ignored.
14:26.00Innocentushi all
14:26.12helomy syslog keeps exiting
14:26.27heloi dont know why, but it seems that every few days i have to /etc/init.d/rsyslogd start
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14:27.28sephyjelly: It will handle my e-mail for my own domain, 5 e-mails a day, so I'm guessing the only reqs. are the applications, not the traffic
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14:28.59jellysephy: 5 mails a day implies 500-5000 spam connections a day
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14:29.19eightfoldhow to i connect to a pptp vpn via cli?
14:29.39eightfoldor openvpn, if that's easier (but i don't believe it is)...
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14:31.48Innocentusanyone online?
14:32.03unkmarI just installed the Thai update so that the update would shutup.
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14:33.33sdousley|workHi all, could someone help me with getting a kernel of >=2.6.31 onto Debian Lenny
14:33.41sdousley|workI've had a look in backports, and that seems to only go upto 2.6.31
14:33.45sdousley|work2.6.30*
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14:34.54Innocentusit needs much time
14:35.09Innocentuswhen I try to load a page (i have apache installed) then it need muuch time before the page is shown
14:35.15Innocentusthe loading itself is quite fast
14:35.20Innocentusbut the initial connection is slow
14:35.23Innocentusaltough it is in ethernet
14:35.28Innocentusstrange  - what could be the reason?
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14:35.42abrotmansdousley|work: what's wrong with the .30 ?
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14:36.08sdousley|workabrotman: I have a new Intel i3 board, and according to the Debian HCL, it requires teh e1000e driver from 2.6.31
14:36.15sdousley|workso I just wanted to get that to test things out
14:36.26unkmarInnocentus: so you have a slow connection between request and page transfer.
14:36.52Innocentusright!
14:36.54Innocentusexactly
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14:36.59Innocentuswhat could be the reason?
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14:37.37unkmardoes trying different pages of the same site respond better?
14:37.47Innocentusno
14:37.50Innocentuseven a simple text-file
14:37.56Innocentusfirstly I thought it could be php - but
14:38.01unkmarOk, then it isn't DNS.
14:38.09Innocentussad :(
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14:38.18Innocentusso what could it be then?
14:38.24Innocentusdns-resolving for log is disabled
14:38.54unkmarAre the pages that are slow to load local?  as in either localhost or LAN?
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14:39.09Innocentusyes
14:39.12Innocentuslocal on a vm
14:39.17InnocentusI have windows as host-system
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14:39.23Innocentusand debian in a vm - vmware workstation 6.5
14:39.38InnocentusI access the server locally and the server access the data (htdocs) with samba from the host
14:39.41InnocentusI need it for development
14:39.48unkmarand how does it do when accessing Internet pages?
14:39.56Innocentusthis is much faster
14:40.13tvmanukrishnanI just bought a usb dongle. not detected by default in Debian. what has to be done?
14:40.16InnocentusI need to wait 30 secs after starting a request to the server
14:40.23abrotmanInnocentus: is your apache logging by hostname or IP ?
14:40.35abrotmannevermind
14:40.39Innocentusabrotman: how can I look that up?
14:40.45abrotmanlook at the logs?
14:40.53Innocentusaccess-log?
14:40.57abrotmanInnocentus: make sure DNS is working on both sides .. from the client and the server
14:41.10unkmartvmanukrishnan: usb dongle?  usb to Network?  what is the usb for?
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14:41.19InnocentusI can resolve google.de with ping google.de
14:41.23Innocentuson both systems
14:41.45tvmanukrishnanunkmar: its a bluetooth dongle
14:41.57Innocentuscould it be the vhost? but more unlikely,...
14:42.17tvmanukrishnanunkmar: to connect with my phone.
14:42.26unkmartvmanukrishnan: not all usb bluetooth dongles are supported in linux.
14:42.38sdousley|workabrotman: I've just tried the 2.6.30 version, and loading the e1000e module still doesn't appear to load the network card :(
14:43.11Innocentus:( :(
14:43.16unkmartvmanukrishnan: the cheap $1 ones are not supported.
14:43.21tvmanukrishnanunkmar: how can I know whether mine is supported?
14:43.32unkmartvmanukrishnan: do you know the make and model?
14:43.46nsadminInnocentus: most likely the server needs the name and IP of the client machine so it can check... it takes about 30 secs or so for such a check to time out
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14:44.07Innocentusnsadmin: how can I disable that damn, unneeded feature?
14:44.09tvmanukrishnanya lsusb says  0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
14:44.11Samaseonany debian lenny professional here who can tell me how to make my alsa sound config permanent?
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14:44.34unkmarInnocentus: in other words.  setting your /etc/hosts file will likely help.
14:44.41nsadminInnocentus: you would disable that on the server... which is running what OS?
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14:45.11tvmanukrishnanunkmar: lsusb says  0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
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14:45.40InnocentusVM (on which apache2 is running): Debian
14:46.01unkmartvmanukrishnan: where did you get the dongle, do you have any docs on it that states BlueZ or Linux?  if not.  your chances are slim.
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14:46.44tvmanukrishnanunkmar: not much specs in the pack
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14:47.43nsadminInnocentus let's get some names here... what do we call the machine you're trying to connect from
14:47.43abrotmanInnocentus: try putting the IP/hostname of your machine/client in /etc/hosts
14:47.56unkmartvmanukrishnan: I just did a google search and there appears to be a chance yours is supported.
14:48.16tvmanukrishnanunkmar: I am also searching
14:48.16Aissenhi, how could i auto-add the timestamp+signature in a debian changelog (in vim) ?
14:48.56nick_hps says that vi has staging_changes.txt open. however, lsof says otherwise. what am i doing wrong? http://pastie.org/779605
14:49.08Innocentusso the debian with the apache2 http server has the name "VM"
14:49.20Innocentuswhile the host on which the vm is running has the name "HOST"
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14:49.41oggeinick_h: nothing
14:49.41Innocentusthe http server accesses the htdocs-folder via samba
14:49.50nsadminso VM is running as a guest of HOST?
14:49.50oggeips don't ask about fd open but cmdlines
14:49.53Innocentusright
14:49.55Teaboy`worknick_h: vim doesn't lock the file?
14:49.58oggeibut vim usually make a working copy
14:49.59Innocentusvmware workstation 6.5
14:50.12nsadminand HOST is a phyisical machine?
14:50.19nick_hoggei: i'm not sure what you mean
14:50.20oggeiteaboy`work: lsof don't speak about locked file but open file descriptors
14:50.29Innocentusyes
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14:50.33Innocentusa windows xp sp3-machine
14:50.34Teaboy`workoggei: that's what I meant
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14:50.41nick_hTeaboy`work: no, vim doesn't lock the file. does lsof only report files that have been locked?
14:50.42Innocentusso what could I do now? :)
14:50.53oggeiteaboy`work: no, you told another misleading thing
14:50.57oggei;)
14:51.02bravvvehi,how can i use the rescu mode te reinstall grub
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14:51.06unkmarAissen: I am not certain I understand the question.
14:51.12nsadminok... HOST is running windows, and has its own IP? is HOST inside a NATted lan?
14:51.20Teaboy`workyay.
14:51.23Innocentusnsadmin: no
14:51.29Innocentusnsadmin: the host is accessing internet via 3
14:51.31Innocentusg
14:51.35oggeinick_h: if i type "cat /etc/asibasfuibasf" then ps will show cat /etc/asibasfuibasf
14:51.53oggeibut that file btw doesn't exists, and accidentally also no output from lsof
14:52.16nsadminnot sure I understand.
14:52.16oggeiwhen i edit a file with "vim /etc/passwd" vim will make a copy and work on that copy, but cmdline is still "vim /etc/passwd"
14:52.32unkmartvmanukrishnan: what do you get when you type hciconfig
14:52.33oggeiso no lsof output w/ /etc/passwd, but still editing that file.
14:52.41nick_hoggei: ah, i see
14:53.03tvmanukrishnanunkmar: command not found
14:53.04oggeiif you grep vim's pid in lsof output, you will see other files opened
14:53.46Aissenunkmar: in a debian/changelog you have those kind of lines :  -- Rene Engelhard <rene@debian.org>  Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:15:53 +0200 . I know dch generates them, but i wondered if there was any vim tool for that
14:53.48nsadminHOST is getting its net via, what?
14:53.53bravvveam i in?
14:53.58tvmanukrishnanunkmar: tried apt-get hciconfig. no such package too
14:54.06nsadmin!test
14:54.06dpkgTest failed.
14:54.17unkmartvmanukrishnan: my mistake.  try: hcitool dev
14:54.19nsadminbravvve: nope... Test failed.
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14:54.34oggeisomeone had news from bravvve ??
14:54.53unkmarAissen: a tool to generate timestamp?
14:54.54nick_hthanks, oggei
14:54.54nsadminbravvve: are you in what?
14:55.40Samaseondoes someone here know anything about debian?
14:55.40Innocentushmm - could <virtualHost *:80> be the reason for that strange delay
14:55.45Innocentusme :)
14:55.52Samaseonyay :)
14:55.57Aissenunkmar: yeah, auto-insert this kind of line (with the timestamp)
14:55.58Samaseonhow do i make my sound config permanent
14:56.17Samaseonsound works but i have to do alsaconf after every boot
14:56.18AissenSamaseon: send a patch to alsa devs?
14:56.27nsadminI know a coupla things about debian... but not anything!
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14:56.54tvmanukrishnanunkmar: no such package
14:57.03Samaseoni get a /etc/modprobe.d/sound file
14:57.56Samaseonsome time ago some update-modules would probably have helped
14:57.56Samaseonbut it is now deprecated
14:57.58nsadmin!emter
14:58.14nsadminhmm, speld it rong
14:58.17bravvvensadmin:room
14:58.28Samaseonso i suspect that /etc/modprobe.d/sound file is not used
14:58.29nsadmin!room
14:58.29dpkgCHANNEL!
14:58.42bravvvensadmin:there is no one psseking
14:58.49bravvvensadmin:there was no one psseking
14:59.08bravvvensadmin:what test
14:59.13nsadmin!test
14:59.13dpkgTest failed.
14:59.16unkmartvmanukrishnan: apt-cache search bluez
14:59.31nsadmindamn, failed again!
14:59.42Samaseonmaybe i must edit /etc/modules by hand or what?
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15:00.16unkmartvmanukrishnan: I'm not sure which of those packages should give you hcitool  It is on my debian install.
15:00.20Aissenunkmar: seems dch does what i want : `EDITOR=vim dch` : it takes care of the rest
15:00.31nsadminbravvve: emmadentally, folks can hear you...
15:00.50bravvvensadmin:ok
15:00.51tvmanukrishnanunkmar: let me try with it. will get back to you
15:00.57docmaxhello, i have problems with standby on my laptop. i think it was after a kernel update. what can i do? the screen goes blank, but laptop doesnt go to standby.
15:00.59bravvvensadmin:so is there solution?
15:01.27nsadmin10% salt, 90% water
15:01.32junkunkmar would cp *.avi *nfo /media/some/dir copy all the avi files and all the .nfo files to the directory?
15:01.36nsadminto what?
15:01.53unkmarjunk: no.
15:01.56junkk
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15:02.32unkmarjunk: as far as I know.  cp expects one source and one target. You are specifying 2 sources..
15:02.48junkyeah that's possible as long as it are files
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15:03.36nsadminif 2 or more sources, target must be a dir
15:03.49junkye ^^
15:04.18snicorehello
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15:04.37snicorehow to i play embedded divx movies in iceweasel/
15:04.38snicore<
15:04.40snicore?
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15:04.51EugenAhow can i change to "insert" mode in vi on debian?
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15:05.10unkmarjunk: well, you left out a dot on nfo. but I guess you want to get .info files as well.  only confusion will be a tiny chance of a file ending with nfo but not having an extension.
15:05.15unkmarEugenA: i
15:05.57unkmarEugenA: vi is the same for all linux.  well, mostly anyway.  just a matter of a few config changes here and there.
15:05.58oggeiunkmar: *nfo takes also unkmar.study.nfo
15:06.19EugenAunkmar: doesn't it show anything if i'am in this mode? like "inserting" at the bottom?
15:06.36unkmaroggei: but it would also get mystrangefilenfo
15:06.43oggeiunkmar: that's not your problem
15:06.45oggei:)
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15:06.57nsadminall linux and all unix too and anything else vi runs on
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15:07.27Samaseonwhat replaces update-modules command in lenny?
15:07.27unkmarEugenA: it will when you enter insert mode. but the status line changes so it might not always show it.
15:08.03oggeiSamaseon: nothing
15:08.14oggeiyou write stuff in right files and you're done
15:08.19unkmarEugenA: but I guess it does.  It will show -- INSERT --
15:08.26EugenAunkmar: maybe something wrong with keyboard in virtual box..
15:08.40EugenAi don't see anything
15:08.42nsadminvi will not, maybe vim will
15:09.15nsadmintri tipin stupf
15:09.21oggeiEugenA: in debian vim ships with nocompatible iirc
15:09.24unkmarEugenA: nsadmin has informed me otherwise for vi.  I install vim fairly quickly. :P
15:09.31tvmanukrishnanunkmar: hcitool dev gives hci000:1F:81:00:02:50
15:09.33oggeithis change something iirc
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15:09.59Samaseonoggei, ok i'll try, thanks
15:10.17oggeiEugenA: look at /usr/share/vim/vim72/debian.vim
15:10.36oggeiso you have to configure it a bit, and also to remove other VIs if you want to launch "vim" with "vi"
15:10.42oggei(because of alternatives)
15:10.44EugenAoggei: not found
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15:11.24oggeiEugenA: do you have vim installed ?
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15:11.34nsadmina coupla things you might try...
15:11.37EugenAsure :-) /usr/share/vim/vim71/debian.vim
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15:11.41oggeiok
15:11.45nsadminone, nano is a good editor...
15:11.47oggeii was looking at changelog
15:11.49unkmartvmanukrishnan: http://www.klabs.be/~fpiat/linux/bluetooth/bluetooth_HOWTO.html  This page might help.
15:12.00nsadmintwo, if you really want vi you could read man vi
15:12.02oggeiso you can see lot of debian defaults, including nocompatible and stuff
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15:13.29nsadminbut vi is hands down horrible as a first editor... if you're learning, you could try something else, like nano or ae
15:13.59oggeinsadmin is right
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15:14.53nsadminthat mode switching thing really gets in the way
15:14.57EugenAi use sometimes vi, but it is another configured as in opensuse... i'll take nano
15:15.27Innocentuswho could help me? :(
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15:16.23jeff_hannInnocentus, what's your problem?
15:16.40nsadminInnocentus: did you try putting the client's ip and hostname into /etc/hosts?
15:16.48Innocentushosts?
15:16.51InnocentusI have only LAN
15:16.53Innocentusethernet
15:16.55nsadminthe /etc/hosts of the server
15:16.56Innocentuswith IP-addresses
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15:17.38unkmarInnocentus: look at the /etc/hosts file.  add another line like.  myserver.com 192.168.1.100
15:17.41nsadminpersonally, I run an internal dns
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15:17.57unkmaror whatever you have named the server and what its ip is.
15:18.00Innocentusah
15:18.02Innocentusok
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15:18.12EugenAi still have my virtual host without network connectivity, becouse i cannot install network manager.. so i must setup network without it
15:18.19Ahmuck-Jris iceweasel still in play?
15:18.46nsadminonce I beat a new entry into it and know that it works, no problem after that :)
15:18.50drwHow I can make forward between servers with postfix ?
15:18.52EugenAfollowing config: http://pastebin.com/m453f67a3 helped me
15:18.55InnocentusI have added the lines
15:19.00Innocentusand I have restartet the server
15:19.08Innocentusdo I also need to restart the debian-system itself?
15:19.08JosephMgreetings  I have a dell dimension xps t500 that has an onboard yamaha sound card and lenny / udev doesn't see it.  can anyone help?
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15:19.12Innocentusor isn't that necessary
15:19.34unkmarInnocentus: don't even have to restart the network for that to take place.
15:19.50Innocentusok - thank you for that advice. but it hadn't helped
15:19.53unkmaryou only need to apply that to your host system.
15:19.54Innocentussame issue
15:19.58Innocentusyes
15:20.28Innocentusahhh damn
15:20.30Innocentuswhy
15:20.40unkmarare you able to access the server by ip?
15:20.52Innocentusyou mean the apache-server?
15:20.58Innocentusyes
15:21.13unkmarthrough the vm?
15:21.17nsadminand you put this in the /etc/hosts file of which machine?
15:21.37Innocentusright
15:21.40Innocentusin the vm
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15:21.46Innocentusthe debian has got that modified hosts-file
15:21.57unkmardoes it respond faster via the IP than by servername?
15:22.05InnocentusI will try it
15:22.48nsadminmaybe apache logs are trying to resolve dns of incoming connections
15:22.59oggeitoo late :P
15:23.12nsadminhe'll be back
15:23.17unkmarI still haven't vixed my nvidia X problems. :(
15:23.23unkmars/vix/fix
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15:23.33nsadminmaybe apache logs are trying to resolve dns of incoming connections
15:23.34Innocentusdamn
15:23.35Innocentusconnection lost
15:23.37InnocentusI am back
15:23.43Innocentushmm
15:23.50Innocentushow can I check that, nsadmin?
15:23.53unkmarI am front.  Nice to meet you in the middle.
15:24.00oggeiunkmar : install all relevant, then kill X, and from console X -configure -probeonly
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15:24.11oggeithen follow instructions as exactly appears on the screen
15:24.13Innocentusatop says me that apache2 is at 1%
15:24.21Innocentusso cpu can't be the reason
15:24.25Innocentusit must something nasty
15:24.33oggeiif you installed linux module AND glx thing, everything should go fine
15:24.49nsadminapache needs a working domain name
15:25.03nsadminor possibly one in /etc/hosts
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15:25.47nsadminare you trying to access it with http://111.222.333.444?
15:25.57Innocentusyes
15:26.00Innocentusbut the same delay
15:26.07Innocentuswait
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15:26.34dondelelcaroInnocentus: if you're getting a delay, and you don't know what it is, run apache using -X under strace, and see precisely where it pauses
15:26.55Innocentusoh yea
15:27.00Innocentusok
15:27.01Innocentus<VirtualHost *:80>
15:27.05Innocentusthis is a virtual host
15:27.09Innocentusit is declared: <VirtualHost *:80>
15:27.11dondelelcarodoesn't matter
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15:27.35Innocentusso apache -X should work then?
15:27.40Innocentushow can i call it as root from bash?
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15:28.03d1bInnocentus: question what sites / modules do you have enabled. and have you altered the config in any weird ways?
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15:28.19Innocentusdlb: no - I have only added two vhosts
15:28.23unkmarHim, if he is getting delay even when using IP then DNS and the hosts file aren't going to help.
15:28.24Innocentuslocalhost-domain.tld
15:28.35unkmars/Him/hmm.
15:28.38Ahmuck-Jris iceweasel a vialble oss project?  i stumbled upon an article that said it has been changed to ice cat?
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15:29.02EugenAcan you help me install or enable sshd ?
15:29.08d1bInnocentus: wait did you say it is accessing files over smb?
15:29.12Innocentushow can I launch apache2 with trace?
15:29.15Innocentusdlb: yes
15:29.18Innocentusdlb: the htdocs-folder
15:29.20d1bInnocentus: there's your problem.
15:29.26Innocentuswhy?
15:29.32EugenAthis is "ssh" package, right?
15:29.32unkmarEugenA: sudo aptitude install openssh-server
15:29.34d1bInnocentus: copy the files to the host / vm.
15:29.45d1bEugenA: apt-get install openssh-server
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15:30.19Innocentusdlb: I can't - even if this would solve my problem
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15:30.25Innocentusdlb: because I have to have it on the host
15:30.30Innocentusdlb: do you think it is smb?
15:30.33d1bInnocentus: mm/
15:30.35EugenAif i start synaptic package management and search there for ssh, is this the same?
15:30.40jszabrotman: apt-get install sudo
15:30.50abrotmanITYM aptitude
15:30.53Innocentusdlb: how can I start apache2 with TRACE?
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15:30.55d1bInnocentus: so the vm that has apache servers up files which are LOCATED on an smb mount?
15:31.02Innocentusyes
15:31.07InnocentusI explain to you
15:31.23d1bInnocentus: vm --> samba --> files which are given by apache . yes
15:31.27InnocentusHOST (HTTP Request) -> VM (SMB REQUEST) -> HOST
15:31.31Innocentusyes
15:31.40InnocentusI use the vm as a development-tool
15:31.40d1bInnocentus: yes and that would be why it can be slow.
15:31.48Innocentusah right
15:31.49d1bnetwork latency.
15:31.55Innocentusit is local
15:32.05Innocentushow can I check smb-perfomance?
15:32.06p3rrorhello
15:32.10d1bInnocentus: what are you using to do the virtualisation?
15:32.17p3rrorplease i need some help with my squid
15:32.23Innocentusvmware workstation 6.5
15:32.24nsadminin fact it's two vms on one physical machine
15:32.24Innocentusquite nice
15:32.30Innocentusnsadmin: two vms?
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15:32.42d1bInnocentus: if it has shared folders use that.
15:32.48d1botherwise there is virtualbox ;P
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15:33.21Innocentusdlb: would this be better for perfomance?
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15:33.32p3rrori need to block skype on my LAN
15:33.35unkmarInnocentus: how many hdd's how many cpu cores?  sounds like you are overworking the system.
15:33.38d1bInnocentus: shared folders, probably.
15:33.40p3rrorso here is my squid conf
15:33.43nsadminyou're better off editing the files on the debian box anyway
15:33.55p3rrorhttp://pastie.org/779656
15:33.57d1bp3rror: you can't block skype
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15:34.01Innocentus2 cores
15:34.01Innocentuscpu isn't burning
15:34.18p3rrord1b, why ?
15:34.21Innocentusok, dlb
15:34.38nsadminmine isn't burning at the moment either... only for DVDs tho
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15:35.20unkmargotta love those proportional fonts, right d1b?  that is d one b.
15:35.23Innocentusdamn
15:35.41InnocentusI have added two shared folders, I have the vmware tools installed - but how to mount them so that I can access them?
15:35.48d1bunkmar: no idea :P
15:35.58nsadminInnocentus: you definitely ought to try having the files on VM
15:36.23Innocentushm
15:36.40unkmard1b: at leaset you aren't feeling Ill or have a name suffix like mine. III
15:36.41d1bp3rror: if you mean the skype website, yes you can. but skype is crazy thing.
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15:37.03oggeip3rror: block anything except l7 inspectable things
15:37.03d1bis a *&
15:37.09Innocentusdamn
15:37.28d1boggei: he can't block ssl...
15:37.35d1b<PROTECTED>
15:38.08oggeilife is choosing priorities
15:38.08p3rrord1b, oggei, i think that with inspecting the payload of tcp/udp packet
15:38.10p3rrorit possible
15:38.23p3rroreven with snort, iptables
15:38.30oggeiif you can't block ssl you're fscked by definition
15:38.33d1bp3rror: good luck.
15:38.38p3rrorhaha
15:38.53p3rrord1b, mean that is very hard to do
15:39.06unkmarp3rror: ssl means encrypted means.  no inspection possible.  have fun. :)
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15:39.30p3rroryes that's right
15:39.37oggeisecurity is a process not a "rule" or a "software", if you want a no skype network then you have to enforce that rule using different approaches *together*
15:39.54d1bp3rror: why do you want to block skype?
15:40.16p3rrorthe DG of my office ask to do so
15:40.57Innocentusdamn damn damn
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15:41.08p3rrorin a paper i see that from server to client message exchange, skype uses a non-ssl header
15:42.57d1bp3rror: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2005-November/038646.html therei s that from 2005.
15:43.03d1bi doubt it still works
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15:44.08p3rrorthat not work
15:44.08WormFoodin China, if you try to go to skype.com, you get redirected to skype.tom.com, and if you download that version of skype (from tom.com), it will spy on you, and send info to the gooberment, if your messages contain the keywords they're looking for
15:44.15p3rrori try it out
15:44.36WormFooddo I need more of a reason to hate skype?
15:44.57d1bWormFood: :P
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15:45.13d1bp3rror: easier to just send skype.com to 127.0.0.1
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15:45.42unkmarWormFood: you blame that on Skype?  that is a China thing.  Just look at the recent Google mess.
15:45.43WormFoodd1b, the great firewall of china will intercept and screw with your dns requests too
15:46.00d1bWormFood: are you in china atm?
15:46.11WormFoodyes, I blame that on skype, because they allow it, and worked with tom.com to make this special version of skype for chinese people
15:46.17WormFoodd1b, yes, I'm an american in China.
15:46.29d1bWormFood: so you are tunneling
15:46.33WormFoodno
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15:46.56WormFoodI have a vpn back to my computer in USA (amazing it is still running after 2 years....watch it break now that i've said that)
15:47.01d1bthey don't block irc?
15:47.10WormFoodbut it is on my dsl line, so I don't use it that often
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15:47.16WormFoodno, they don't block irc
15:47.17unkmarhe IS tunneling.
15:47.25d1bunkmar: not irc.
15:47.28WormFoodI should reroute my irc through my vpn, but I don't.
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15:47.35boiiHello.
15:47.36unkmarno, but the VPN would be tunneling.
15:47.41unkmaroh.
15:47.42WormFoodno unkmar, I rarely use my vpn
15:47.46WormFoodI rarely need it
15:47.52WormFoodI don't surf youtube and facebook
15:47.53boiihow to install Compiz fusion on debian lenny?
15:48.00d1bWormFood: or use google...?
15:48.05d1bboii: apt-get install compiz
15:48.10WormFoodI can use google here
15:48.25WormFoodi don't use the chinese google site (google.cn), I always go straight to the usa site
15:48.28unkmarWormFood: not for long.
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15:48.41WormFoodand if they do block google, then I'll reroute my dns and google through my vpn
15:48.46WormFoodif they block google, that is good for me
15:48.50docmaxhello, i have problems with standby on my laptop. i think it was after a kernel update. what can i do? the screen goes blank, but laptop doesnt go to standby.
15:49.02WormFoodbecause then it will be easier to sell VPN service here (to foreigners)
15:49.28WormFooddocmax, downgrade your kernel....test, and make sure that is the source of the problem.
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15:50.11docmaxWormFood, ok, perhaps its not the kernel
15:50.25unkmarThere is no way I would work in China without a VPN to the states.
15:50.31WormFoodI just sent my passport off today to get a new visa...I hope relationships between china and usa don't go too far south between now and then, and screw up my visa
15:50.53docmaxWormFood, what else could i do? i remember the was a program which checked which processes prevent the pc to standby
15:50.57WormFoodunkmar, I can't legally work here, since I don't have a work visa/residence permit (but I'm working on it)
15:51.15WormFoodI don't know the conditions under which you want it to go into standby
15:51.43WormFoodI thought going into standby was based on your activity....no keyboard/mouse input for x minutes, and it goes into standby....I personally turn off all that shit.
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15:52.14WormFoodunkmar, getting a vpn is trivial and cheap....I think $20 (usd) a year
15:52.22unkmarisn't nv the opensource version of the nvida drivers?
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15:52.35WormFoodbut I can charge people here $30 USD a month for vpn :D (and of course, they get my personal support)
15:52.40cahootnv or nouveau
15:53.00cahootthe latter in 2.6.33 IIRC
15:53.02WormFoodI'd rather use the open source nvidia drivers, but I use the drivers from nvidia
15:53.30WormFoodand the funny thing is, I don't even play games, or use the 3D features of my video card....but I know, if I wanted to play games on it, it should be pretty sweet
15:53.46unkmaryeah, well, I was trying to get the .. I'll go to nvidia's site.  that worked last time.
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15:54.10d1bcahoot: 2.6.33 isn't stable yet.
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15:54.13DukeDrakehi
15:54.16unkmarWormFood: I think the video responds better in general.
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15:54.50cahootthe latter in 2.6.33-rc* then
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15:56.19docmaxWormFood, standby is when closing the lid for example
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16:00.01unkmarwhy muddy the waters with an iceweasel?
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16:00.50unkmarI was moving to debian from ubuntu to remove a middle man. now i Have debian as a middle man for my firefox?  strange.
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16:07.20oOarthurOoThere are a lot of "users" on my system, according to "cat /etc/password" ... for example, there is one called nobody. Any list of what these are, and whether I shouldn't delete some? I thought running fewer users would be better for security. I don't even know the passwords for all these users.
16:07.32oggeiunkmar: better to document yourself before
16:07.59oggeimaybe there's a good reason for having a renamed (hint: rebranded) version
16:09.47macrobat_oOarthurOo: Keep all those users, some of them are daemons, they do great work
16:10.18macrobat_"nobody" is the user with least priviledges
16:10.37__dean__but
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16:10.50macrobat_they dont have passwd
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16:11.17macrobat___dean__ ?
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16:22.12macrobat_for some reason my default 0.0 X session is on ctrl-alt-F8 now. there is only a blinking cursor on C+A+F7. How do i shut it down?
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16:22.41oggeimacrobat_ : probably deallocvt
16:23.26beardymacrobat_: Shut what down?
16:25.06macrobat_VT_DISALLOCATE: Device or resource busy
16:25.26macrobat_there is something on tty7, i dont know what :)
16:25.31oggeicool, let's investigate
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16:25.50macrobat_lsof /dev/tty7 didnt give anything
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16:26.03macrobat_some option to lsof?
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16:26.30oggeidunno
16:27.37macrobat_im assuming  /dev/tty7 corresponds to  ctrl-alt-F/
16:27.50macrobat_ctrl-alt-F/
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16:28.00macrobat_damn! ctrl-alt-F7
16:28.10oggeisorry, in which correlation table ?
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16:29.51Innocentushi all
16:29.57sigmonsayscan you change the name a file extracts to via tar?
16:29.59Innocentushow can I start apache with trace?
16:30.00macrobat_meh, i dont know the terminology :(  the key combination coresponding to an X session
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16:30.05Innocentusapache -x: command not found
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16:30.27macrobat_httpd?
16:30.34jellyInnocentus: "apache2"
16:30.35macrobat_oh, sry, nvm
16:30.40jellyalso, apache2ctl
16:31.12jellyInnocentus: also2, read the stuff in /usr/share/doc/apache2.2-common/
16:31.19oggeimacrobat_ : the question is ctl-alt-f7 is just a combo so there is not correspondance apart a cause-effect relation (press combo, have a result)
16:31.41oggeibut if you're seeking in eg. lsof output, forget about ctl-alt-f7
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16:32.27macrobat_i know if I startx, X appears in the next availiable slot
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16:32.49macrobat_same for startx -- :1 and so on
16:33.18Innocentusstrange
16:33.29Innocentusaltough I have used the -X switch I don't get any trace output
16:33.38Innocentusclear
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16:33.54oggeiinnocentus: did you ran under strace ?
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16:34.06Innocentusno?
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16:34.10Innocentuswhat is strace?
16:34.12MkmanHi
16:34.23oggeiwho told you about apache2 -X ?
16:34.33Hans_Henriki have about 10 minutes, i need an example on how i can create a image of an entire partition (some guy told me i could use "dd" but i forgot how)  ideas?
16:34.51beardy!hurry
16:34.51dpkgOhhhhh.... Aaaarrrreeee yyyyoooouuuuuuuuu iiiinnnn a huuuuurrrrrrryyyyy?  Welllllll...   We do not cater to the ["me!me!me! : mine!mine!mine! : now!now!now!now!"] crowd .. so bugger off!  Run home crying now ..and tell jo'momma that we spanked you!
16:34.55Innocentuseh
16:35.03Innocentussomeone here
16:35.14krion:)
16:35.14Innocentusso that I can directly see where apache2 got stuck
16:35.17oggeibut also told you something else innocentus
16:35.20Innocentusbecause the requests needs so much time
16:35.30Innocentusso how to trace correctly?
16:35.36Innocentusand what was it? :)
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16:35.56Hans_Henrikbeardy: right..
16:36.05oggeidunno, i wasn't looking
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16:36.35Innocentushow can I look what apache2 http server is actually doing so that I can track down the problem?
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16:37.29oggeiusing and understanding strace output isn't a trivial task so if you want install it and launch apache under it
16:37.34beardyHans_Henrik: 'dd if=/dev/partition_mightbe_sda1 of=/some/place/imagefile'
16:37.42oggeibut you'll have to study and understand a bit
16:37.52Hans_Henrikbeardy: thanks
16:38.16beardyHans_Henrik: Read 'man dd' for more information, and be careful that you don't write TO the partition.
16:38.30Hans_Henrikhow can i mount a .img file as a partition?
16:38.40petemcdd'ing can be a slow process too..
16:38.50stewHans_Henrik: what is it an img of?
16:38.58stewHans_Henrik: what does "file /path/to/.img" say it is?
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16:39.07oggeidd'ing w/o bs certainly will :P
16:39.08macrobat_there was an opera instance on the "F7" slot. i killed it, but there is more. i dont know what
16:39.32oggeimacrobat_ : i insist there is no "f7" slot
16:39.45Hans_Henrikstew: a image of a harddrive created by dd?
16:39.52macrobat_i dont say there is. but i dont know what to call it
16:39.58macrobat_hence the ""
16:40.02krionlive cd with clonezilla
16:40.09stewHans_Henrik: its an image of an entire hard drive which was partitioned?
16:40.21krionand you're done
16:40.28beardystew: I think he means to mount the partition image he will create.
16:40.29Hans_Henrikstew: wups, i meant a image of a partition
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16:40.50stewHans_Henrik: then you can use "mount -o loop /path/to/img /mountpoint"
16:40.52oggeimacrobat_ : "ps auxw | grep tty" should only show stuff that allocate a vt
16:41.04unkmarI think I am ready for reboot.  brb.
16:41.04oggeiso *getty or eventually X, not opera nor xchat
16:41.20Hans_Henrikstew/beardy: thanks!
16:41.52oggei(same for lsof -n | grep dev/tty)
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16:43.16Innocentus_ha
16:43.20Innocentus_I have found the issue
16:43.30Innocentus_when I disconnect the internet connection (a 3g modem)
16:43.35Innocentus_then the pages are loading blazingly fast
16:43.45Innocentus_- so there must something with the internet-connection
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16:44.09Innocentus_what could the apache2 http server do with the internet connection so that there is so much waiting time before he serves the request?
16:44.55oggeiif you wait ~30'' every time, that can be a dns resolution issue like someone told you before
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16:45.16Innocentus_and where can I disable that dns-resolution?
16:45.24macrobat_i can write to it. it is tty7, there is no tty7 process running, though. "for i in {1..9}; do echo This is $i > /dev/tty$i ;done"
16:45.28rittyanHi all. I want to keep source code in remote repository (source control) and /debian/ directory locally (i.e. I want to keep them separate). I want source to be checked out during debuild, is it a good idea (will it work?) to fetch it using some hooks?
16:45.46oggeimacrobat: how you do invoke deallocvt ?
16:46.09oggeiinnocentus_ : iirc apache2 don't try to log hostnames by default, only ip
16:46.29Innocentus_yes
16:46.36Innocentus_loggin with hostnames is disabled
16:46.47macrobat_oggei "deallocvt 7"
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16:47.13oggeiso you'll have to discover where, when and why it eventually does reverse dns lookups
16:47.20oggeior strace
16:47.49elikHow can one follow references in man? I'm pretty sure there is a way, and I can almost remember doing it, but I can't find it anywhere :S
16:48.28oggeimacrobat_ : but after you did write to console, if you return to 8 and deallocvt 7
16:48.32oggeiwhat's the message
16:48.41p3rrorplease i need to block a tcp packet that has in its data the value 0x1703010000
16:48.45cireIs it possible to tell grub to boot from an .iso file? And if yes, where should I put it? (cannot start from cd)
16:48.50oggei? and after if you return to 7, you can still read your message ?
16:48.52macrobat_elik: are you thinking of "info"
16:48.53p3rrorhow can do that with iptables ?
16:49.14elikmacrobat_, no no, really man
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16:49.31macrobat_there is tkman, its ugly
16:49.33elikmacrobat_, like the see-alsos
16:49.47macrobat_that would be neat, elik
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16:50.20Innocentus_I have to vhosts - I get two message at start: Restarting web server: apache2apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
16:50.24Innocentus_<PROTECTED>
16:50.34macrobat_oggei:  "VT_DISALLOCATE: Device or resource busy      deallocvt: could not deallocate console 7"
16:50.51unkmarwasn't ready for reboot and not back yet. :(
16:51.06elikmacrobat_, I can totally see myself pressing ctrl-] over it :D
16:51.08oggeimacrobat_: i give up :D
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16:51.15elikmacrobat_, so I take it it's not possible
16:51.17odin_how can I download the DEB from the repo ?  its already installed, I just want the DEB... "apt-get -d install foobar" I tried
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16:51.34elikmacrobat_, do you know if that can be done with info?
16:51.35oggeiodin_: --reinstall -d
16:51.42oggeiso you trigger a new download
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16:51.59possumguyhey all, is it safe to set parameters via tune2fs on a mounted filesystem?
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16:52.03macrobat_elik, vimpager? :)
16:52.15stewInnocentus_: this warning is typically ignorable.  if it bugs you you can make sure you have a fqdn in /ets/hosts for that ip
16:52.30odin_oggei, ok that did something, but I want the DEB in the current directory
16:52.31unkmarelik I was hitting ctrl-] for vim's help
16:52.37elikmacrobat_, yeah, I think I'll look into that :P
16:52.39Innocentus_stew: I have made a fqdn - however - there is still that failue
16:52.50Innocentus_could this be eligible fo those damn dns-lookups?
16:52.51elikunkmar, right. I'd like to do that, but in man
16:52.53stewInnocentus_: what does "getent hosts 127.0.1.1" return?
16:53.08oggeiodin_: then apt-cache show bash | grep ^Filename
16:53.17oggeiand concatenate with repository root
16:53.32oggeiotherwise, you will find it in /var/cache/apt/archives
16:53.50stewodin_: or look at the --print-uris option to apt-get
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16:54.03macrobat_oggei: i saw some text in tty7 when i scrolled up. INIT version 2.86 reloading and something about opera segfault. i guess everything will be alright after a reboot
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16:54.21odin_oggei, Filename: ./openssl_0.9.8g-15maemo4+0m5_armel.deb  (but not file in current dir and /var/cache/apt/archives/ is empty) maybe I aborted too early at: Install these packages without verification [y/N]?
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16:54.44macrobat_elik: info has links. default bindings are emacs-like
16:54.48rittyanwhere I can discuss debian packaging stuff on irc?
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16:54.58unkmarelik: I'd like to as well.
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16:55.29oggeistew: whoa neat --print-uris :P
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16:55.50elikmacrobat_, just found out that info didn't have all the man though :( (gittutorial for instance)
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16:59.15macrobat_yes, the info system is separate
16:59.45macrobat_my man pages have color, therefore i like man better
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17:16.39c9shello
17:16.44c9si need help
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17:16.54c9smy Asus LX30 laptop
17:17.07unkmarc9s: so do I.  but I don't think the shrinks can do it.
17:17.42c9sit's lost its eth interface. even i tried lspci
17:17.48c9si can't find it.
17:18.08c9si tried the latest linux kernel
17:18.16c9s2.6.33-2
17:18.40c9sit should find atl1c eth
17:18.54c9swell, it's using atl1c eth driver.....
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17:19.10c9sit's really strange ...
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17:20.57Ahmuck-Srhi.  is debian really 32 cd?
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17:21.28Digdilemc9s, this may be a little silly a question, but is the wifi enabled on the laptop by button, function key or even in bios?
17:21.48DigdilemAhmuck-Sr, prolly. I don't think anyone uses cd's for it any more tho
17:22.12LtLAhmuck-Sr: you only really need cd #1 for the base system and desktop.
17:22.24c9sDigdilem:    it's not wifi...
17:22.29Ahmuck-Srwhat are the other 32 cds?
17:22.56maligorit contains packages for offline use
17:22.59LtLAhmuck-Sr: the thousands of available packages
17:23.02Digdilemc9s, same applies for bios.
17:23.06c9sDigdilem: it's eth interface. i can't even find the function key or in bios settings
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17:23.17c9sit just disappeared....
17:23.23Ahmuck-Srthanks
17:23.25Digdilemi use the netinst image. Only reason for anything else really is if you don't have internet access on teh target.
17:23.38Ahmuck-Sror would like a backup copy ?
17:23.52Digdilemwhy back it up? the backup would be out of date within days or weeks
17:23.55maligorAhmuck-Sr, if your system has a decent network connection, you can download them over it instead of downloading/burning the archive
17:24.09c9si only got one result ... http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ux30+atl1c&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
17:24.18oggeiand even if you don't have connection you should investigate something smarter like apt-zip
17:24.32Ahmuck-Srthanks
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17:26.22_Ovidiuis away: Gone away for now
17:26.25nutronWhen I plug in my usb stick.  It shows up on the nautilus desktop, but now it doesn't have permissions for me to write anything to it.  fdisk -l; mount shows that the partition is recognized, mounted and that the mount parameters are now different than what I've seen.  Running sid and devicekit seems to be getting involved now.  Where do I set rules to make this stick available to normal users?
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17:28.27batphone_so i have this 1950 with 2 140 gig mirrors in it
17:28.41batphone_i need to build a database on top of this that will have 200gb in it
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17:28.58batphone_using lvm.. question is how to do this - how to build a volume across two physical disks
17:29.08batphone_i didn't see how to do that in the installer
17:29.23batphone_anyone care to impart some wisdom here
17:29.42unkmarnutron: it is a fat32 system and all files are owned by root.  So you must be root to modify the files.
17:29.49Digdilembatphone_, md might be what you're looking for
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17:29.58oggeican't you build a striped raid0 using the 2 mirrors ?
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17:30.15oggeimarking partitions for lvm use should do, in debian installer
17:30.42batphone_Digdilem: ty. looking at this mdadm thing.
17:30.43oggei(or leave unpartitioned space to setup later)
17:31.00batphone_oggei: not with this raid controller
17:31.09batphone_oggei: not natively anyway, id have to use linux to build the stripe
17:31.12nutronunkmar: it's not, it's an ext3 filesystem as it's exclusively used by my deb boxes.  I understand that being root would "resolve" my issue.  devkit decided that it doesn't belong to my normal user, which is different than what it was yesterday.
17:31.32oggeibatphone_: if you do have 2 140 gig mirrors i suppose you have at least 4 140 gig disks
17:31.36xtetoncawhich package has xrdb?
17:31.38oggeicoupled by something-hardware
17:32.01batphone_oggei: right. the dell SAS6 raid controller has two mirrors built out of those four disks
17:32.03oggeiso you have two 140gig volumes already hw mirrored, so everything you can do w/ debian is obviously linux based
17:32.09batphone_oggei: raid 5 is not an option with this controller
17:32.12oggei(but this is true in general)
17:32.16nutronxtetonca: dpkg -S /path/to/xrdb  ??
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17:32.24oggeibatphone_:no1 spoke about raid5
17:32.31xtetoncait's not present at all
17:32.44nutronxtetonca: or packages.debian.org can find it for you if you wish to install it.
17:32.48batphone_oggei: was just mentioning that because id like to use it..
17:32.58xtetoncathank you nutron
17:33.12oggeiyou don't have enough disks for raid5, even using software
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17:33.26oggei(well you can use a pair w/o mirroring but its stupid)
17:33.56batphone_oggei: well i do have enough total. i built the two mirrors since the controller wouldnt support striping
17:34.10oggeiyou can stripe using debian installer, batphone_
17:34.18oggeiso using two mirrors for making a stripe with linux
17:34.31batphone_oggei: hmm.
17:34.53batphone_oggei: thats not going to work anyway - the guys i work with wont be able to support a linux stripe
17:34.56nutronbatphone_: just remeber, raid is not a replacement for backups :) using striping is dangerous, lvm is similarly dangerous.  ... right what oggei said :)
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17:35.16nutronbatphone_: they have access to google right?
17:35.17oggeibatphone_: so what are you seeking here ?
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17:35.35batphone_how to extend /usr into the other disk
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17:36.23nutronbatphone_: so merge the two mountpoints into a single /usr ?  use lvm or as oggei said, stripe the two using mdadm.
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17:37.25oggeithere is not much choiches, eh: using hw, or using sw. If using hw isn't possible because hw limitation and using sw isn't cause you'r techies aren't supporting it, then ...
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17:39.11unkmarI don't like watching pages slowly be painted onto  my X.  Why oh Why can't I get the native nvidia drivers installed?
17:39.33nutronunkmar: m-a a-i nvidia
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17:40.13oggeiunkmar: swap nvidia with an intel one <g>
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17:41.01nutronoggei: :( that's not funny ... actually it is ... heh
17:41.01unkmarnutron: what you said doesn't make any since.
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17:41.19nutronmake any what ... since when?
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17:41.41nutronunkmar: it's a command, you run it as root, glhf
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17:42.12batphone_its been a long time since i have messed with lvm
17:42.19batphone_so im having to relearn all this ;P
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17:42.40unkmardoesn't appear to be a command.
17:42.45oggeibatphone_: you can configure it directly in debian-installer
17:42.54oggeiunkmar: yes it does, apt-get install module-assistant
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17:42.58nutrongoogle should find some unrelated ubuntu howto for you... I know it always does for me.  heh
17:43.00oggei!nvidia ?
17:43.01dpkgTo use an NVIDIA graphics card with Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers.  If you've done it before, asking me about <nvidia pre-built> or <nvidia m-a> might work.  Testing users: ask me about <nvidia squeeze>.  Installing directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia (irc.freenode.net).
17:43.12nutronunkmar: aptitude install module-assistant
17:43.27nutronoh! thanks oggei
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17:52.37jesselangAnyone know why icedove on Debian is still 2.x?
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17:52.48jesselangEven in sid.
17:53.30dondelelcarojesselang: 3.0 is in experimental
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17:54.49jesselangSounds like a painful edge to be on.
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17:58.37batphone_ok so im gonna give the installer a stab
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17:59.04AimHereStab him once for me too.
17:59.10batphone_affirmative
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18:02.04jellybotmind: which debian release are you using?
18:02.20botmindjelly: Lenny, the latest
18:02.30c9sseems atl1c driver is not stable ?
18:03.26botmindthis just started to happen.. only for left button.. I think the mouse got broken but before I get a new one, I am seeking for some software solution like to disable the double clicking feature
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18:05.42zmityahi guys
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18:06.32zmityaI have this at the end of a strace output: http://paste.debian.net/56780/
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18:06.49zmityacan somebody please help me to understand what happened here ?
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18:07.10zmityapoll() was set on FD=3 to reading, with timeout = 0
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18:07.51zmityawhat does timeout=0 mean in poll() ??
18:08.06zmityadoes it exit immediately or does it wait forever ?
18:08.06oggeiman 2 poll
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18:08.18zmityaoggei: actually, I have read it
18:08.25BlackFatedoes anyone get sh: gzip: not found boot error?
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18:08.30oggeistrange: The timeout argument specifies an upper limit on the time for which poll() will block, in milliseconds.  Specifying a negative value in timeout means an infinite timeout.
18:08.36oggeiso 0 means 0.
18:08.59zmityatimeout=0 is mentioned with ppoll()
18:09.04zmityaonly
18:09.39zmityaso I'm confused, because poll was set up only for reading right ?
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18:09.40oggeiso because timeout=0 is not named with poll(), he doesn't accept 0 but only positive or negative integers != 0 ?
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18:10.16zmityaoggei: hmm
18:10.18UT2K3hi guys, how can i disable the remove of packes when i use apt-get install and force continue
18:10.19oggeimmmh
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18:11.16zmityaUT2K3: put the package to "hold" state... "dpkg --set-selections"...
18:11.18oggeifirst line of description: poll performs similar to select... so timeout matters, and 0 takes sense.
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18:11.41zmityaoggei: so it returned immediately right ?
18:12.01oggeiyeah
18:12.08zmityaok
18:12.12himurakenWhat would the recommended size be for /boot guys? I just want to make sure that I have enough room for kernel and updates etc....
18:12.26zmityaso it sent something and then hung @read()
18:12.34himurakenIs 10GB totally overkill?
18:12.46oggeibut don't expect anything else from here, giving three strace lines
18:12.58sayanrijuhimuraken, yes
18:13.04zmityaoggei: this is I have :(
18:13.07himurakensayanriju, What would you use?
18:13.20sayanrijuhimuraken, 100megs at the max
18:13.21zmityajust wanted to understand what happened there
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18:13.31zmityaand could not find the timeout in the man
18:13.36zmityathats why I asked here
18:13.37himurakenLOL sayanriju I would say that 10 is total overkill in that case.
18:13.39himurakenThanks sayanriju
18:13.56oggeipoll does return 0, so no meat for read()
18:13.59sayanrijuhimuraken, welcome :=)
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18:14.23oggeibut before he writes on same fd 37 bytes
18:14.37zmityaoggei: sure, it exited with 0 which means it was timeout
18:14.44oggeino
18:14.51zmityaoggei: why ?
18:14.53oggeiit exit with 0 meaning other thing, man 2 poll
18:15.01zmityaoh, let me check
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18:15.28zmityaoggei:  A value of 0 indicates that the call timed out and no file descriptors were ready.
18:15.37oggeiah no, ok
18:15.38batphone_well the installer won't let me continue through the partitioning because it says no root filesystem is defined
18:15.43oggeieh, so you did read man, good
18:15.45oggei:P
18:15.45sayanrijuhimuraken, and use something like ext2 on /boot, no need for journaling
18:15.46batphone_yet i have a root VG present
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18:15.53zmityaoggei: :) :p
18:16.06zmityaso ok, we know what happened here
18:16.11zmityaI hope :)
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18:16.48zmityaactually this is a mysql cluster's API node, its a bit weird the way it works
18:16.54JosephMgreetings.  I have sysklogd listening to remote messages and they are coming in to the syslog just fine.  how do I point these messages to a seperate log? say one named routerlog
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18:17.10oggeizmitya: yes, i was searching on google code
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18:18.55oggeiwell, supermarket time cya
18:19.09zmityathanks
18:19.11zmityachhers
18:19.11himurakensayanriju, another quick one, for files of 4GB and higher, would you recommend XFS over EXT3/4? This is a Via EPIA board so very low CPU performance etc.
18:19.59sayanrijuhimuraken, Personally speaking, its reiserfs FTW! Never used XFS, and ext3 often feels slow
18:20.11sayanrijuext4 should be good though
18:20.28UT2K3zmitya: i've put all packages on hold, but apt-get would still remove the packages on apt-get install mypackage :/
18:20.29himurakenIs reiserfs still being developed since he got put in the pen XD?
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18:20.49sayanrijuhimuraken, reiser4 is more likely dead
18:21.12himurakenIs 5 around?
18:21.16himurakenOr did it stop at 4?
18:21.35azeemthere's no 5 AFAIK
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18:21.52himurakenOK so I guess its ext4 vs XFS
18:22.00zmityaUT2K3: can you see your package in "hold" status with "dpkg --get-selections" ??
18:22.04himurakenI just seem to recall that XFS is better for large files etc.
18:22.19azeemdid you read that in 2004?
18:22.34azeemhimuraken: what is your use-case?
18:22.41himurakenI guess this ought to help azeem and sayanriju : http://www.linuxcauldron.com/?p=596
18:22.48azeemwhat?
18:22.59himurakenazeem, 4x500GB MD device used as a backup2disk device
18:23.00Titan8990azeem, i was always told XFS was faster when dealing with large files also
18:23.11abrotmanTitan8990: it used to be
18:23.12himurakenSmallest files on it will 4GB
18:23.20himurakenAcronis images and such will be 20-30+
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18:23.40sayanrijuhimuraken, /me never used such big files, so not fit to answer
18:23.53himurakenI think it had something to do with when moving or deleting the large files, XFS required the least overhead and as such worked faster.
18:24.01Titan8990himuraken, had you already tested their linux server software? are you aware it requires a GUI (or have limited features), and is all around terrible from my experience?
18:24.08himurakenOn the other hand, I am familiar with ext2/3/4 never used another.
18:24.33himurakenTitan8990, this will be a target device, headless debian or Ubuntu.
18:24.42himurakenJust an SSH/SFTP destination.
18:25.01himurakenTitan8990, and yes I had a customer that wanted Acronis on their RH server. It sucked.
18:25.44himurakenI know that the ext3/4 will work fine, but I just wondered if anyone had experience with getting the most out of a slow box by using an alt. FS.
18:25.44Titan8990himuraken, I couldn't believe it was made for a server and required X.... when i asked their customer service, they claimed that it didn't but it was a GUI
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18:26.09himurakenTitan8990, same situation. I was RTFM when I started seeing dependencies etc....
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18:27.02kre10shello. I am trying to # chroot /chroot/
18:27.03kre10sBut get the error: chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
18:27.15himurakenYeah it was deletion:   "XFS edged out all the others, having the best times for 4GB sequential deletion."
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18:27.24ruben23filepeter you there...?
18:27.35Titan8990kre10s, there is no bash located at /chroot/bin/bash
18:27.56Titan8990kre10s, the filesystem you are chrooting into must have a workable filesystem and a shell of some kind
18:28.02Titan8990kre10s, does not have to be BASH
18:28.39himurakenFor kicks I am going to try XFS.
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18:29.44kre10sTitan8990: i have now copied sh to /chroot/bin/sh but i still get the error... just with sh instead of bash
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18:30.19kre10s# chroot /chroot /bin/sh
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18:30.20kre10schroot: cannot run command `/bin/sh': No such file or directory
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18:31.01SerajewelKSkre10s: /bin/sh is probably a symlink
18:31.05Titan8990kre10s, did you copy a symlink?
18:31.11Titan8990awww, beat me to it
18:31.35wildc4rdevenin' all
18:31.40tobeI'm using netatalk and can see my machine in the sidebar on the mac with avahi. But the passwords and/or usernames aren't working and i don't know how i can access a ashare individually
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18:31.48SerajewelKSkre10s: try 'cp -L /bin/sh /chroot/bin/sh'
18:31.54kre10sI think it is the actual file. ls -l -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 797784 2010-01-15 18:11 sh
18:32.22SerajewelKSkre10s: uhm, and you are on debian?
18:32.29adbkre10s, how you get that chroot ? debootstraping which system   ?
18:32.32SerajewelKSon which debian is /bin/sh not a symlink?
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18:33.40Titan8990adb, you don't need a *full* system for a chroot, he could just be getting minimal utilities for a sandbox or something
18:33.43kre10sSerajewelKS: sh is a symlinc to /bin/bash. but the /chroot/bin/sh is the file
18:33.59SerajewelKSkre10s: odd.  cp is supposed to copy links without -L
18:34.20kre10sSerajewelKS: i did use cp -L
18:34.26SerajewelKSkre10s: oh then there you go
18:35.04adbTitan8990, i see , thought debootstrap get the minimal system ..
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18:35.23unkmarI give up.
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18:35.34Titan8990adb, that way more than you would want to put an application in a sandbox... you wouldn't need apt in your chroot for example
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18:36.07Titan8990adb, a good example of an app in a very minimalistic sandbox is #evalbot
18:36.19Titan8990adb, you can go give him commands and have a look at his filesystem and stuff
18:36.28kre10sI can execute /chroot/bin/sh... and it does open a shell... which i can exit to return to the previous one.
18:36.28alecs1hi, all my kde programs take long to load and amarok cannot connect to the database; what could cause this?
18:36.41kre10sand /chroot/bin/sh does not apear to be a link.
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18:36.56alecs1I believe it is some network related service of KDE, bug I'm lost
18:37.07adbTitan8990, i see , tks
18:37.16Titan8990kre10s, i would imagine the error would be different, but does the chroot filesystem have the needed libs for bash?
18:37.30kre10soh! I would need the libs to..
18:37.46SerajewelKSkre10s: ldd /chroot/bin/sh to see what they are
18:37.49Titan8990kre10s, you need everything an OS would need to run, aside from a kernel
18:38.05babilenkre10s: 'ldd /bin/bash' or 'ldd /bin/sh'
18:38.06kre10sI'll go fetch the needed stuff then
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18:38.16SerajewelKSkre10s: it may be a good idea just to debootstrap the chroot
18:38.34Titan8990kre10s, what is the overall goal for this chroot?
18:38.34SerajewelKSkre10s: unless space is a huge concern
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18:42.11kre10sTitan8990: for sftp and ssh.
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18:44.03Titan8990kre10s, your looking to jail console users?
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18:44.54kre10syes, as well as sftp users. so they can browse only certain parts of the fs
18:45.03kre10stheir home dir...
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18:46.15Titan8990well, in a chroot, they will need an entire filesystem, not just their home dir
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18:47.14kre10schroot is not the propper way to do this? I thought i'd coppy all the things they need, and chroot them there when they log in.
18:47.29lsdkre10s, why not just install rssh?
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18:48.00Titan8990!rssh
18:48.01dpkgrumour has it, rssh is a restricted shell for use with OpenSSH, allowing only scp and/or sftp.  http://www.pizzashack.org/rssh/faq.shtml  http://www.pizzashack.org/rssh/  See also <scponly>.
18:48.01kre10swill look that up.
18:48.09Titan8990!scponly
18:48.10dpkgfrom memory, scponly is a restricted shell limiting user access to OpenSSH applications (scp, sftp).  It can optionally operate chrooted, which requires a chroot jail for the user to be established; see /usr/share/doc/scponly/README.Debian and Debian bug #551868.  http://sublimation.org/scponly/wiki/index.php/FAQ  http://sublimation.org/scponly/wiki/  See also <rssh>.
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18:48.15abrotmantell ..
18:48.16lsdwell, it allows rdist, rsync and cvs if you want
18:48.36SerajewelKSkre10s: or you could chmod the parts of the filesystem you don't want them to have access to
18:48.38lsdbut it comes with a handy mkchroot.sh script (which is easy to modify to add more supported commands in your chroot)
18:48.40Titan8990abrotman, sorry, i usually only tell when the channel is a bit more active
18:49.09lsds/your chroot/your jail/
18:49.52politiedoes anyone know a good tutorial to compile somethin in debian
18:50.04politiei never done it
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18:50.16SerajewelKSpolitie: (1) don't, use debian packages if possible.  or (2) ./configure && make && make install
18:50.25SerajewelKSpolitie: it's not very different from every other linux distro
18:50.27politiethats all?
18:50.28abrotmanpolitie: what are you trying to compile ?
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18:50.42politiewell im trying to recompile bitlbee with a patch
18:50.45oggeipolitie: in three command you can produce debian package from "configure" source trees
18:50.58oggeido you want to learn ?
18:51.01kre10ssweet! i can set the umask!
18:51.03oggeiif yes, read first two little pages from debian maintainers guide
18:51.03politieyea
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18:51.14SerajewelKSpolitie: why not just get the debian source package and build it?
18:51.18SerajewelKSpolitie: the basic idea is:  apt
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18:51.21SerajewelKSoops
18:51.25oggeibasically, dh_make -f ../your-file.tar.gz; dpkg-buildpackage
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18:51.33SerajewelKSpolitie: the basic idea is:  apt-get build-dep bitlbee; apt-get source bitlbee
18:51.45Titan8990!tell politie about ssb
18:51.49politiebut what if i want the patch with it?
18:51.55SerajewelKSpolitie: then cd into the new bitlbee directory and apply your patch, then 'dpkg-buildpackage -b -us -uc -rfakeroot'
18:51.57Titan8990!tell politie about package recompile
18:52.12Titan8990SerajewelKS, we have bot commands for that stuff :)
18:52.14SerajewelKSpolitie: you'll be better off starting with the debian source package though
18:52.22politieok
18:52.24SerajewelKSTitan8990: yeah because i have ALL of them memorized :P
18:52.38politiethanks, im gonna try
18:52.41babilenSerajewelKS: /msg dpkg search dpkg
18:52.45Innocentushii
18:52.59SerajewelKSbabilen: i can usually type directions faster than it takes to search dpkg
18:53.14politieshould i uninstall current bitlbee?
18:53.22SerajewelKSpolitie: you do not have to
18:53.44SerajewelKSpolitie: when you install your new debian package it will replace that package with yours
18:53.57politieok tyvm
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18:55.57blackholeHi, How can i delete some user in debain?
18:56.24johndoewhy cant i /msg dpkg when im not on #debian :/ can i access it somehow else
18:56.33babilenblackhole: userdel
18:58.11blackholebabilen, when i try to delte a user it says its currently logged in
18:58.12politiehow do i find out what directory bitlbee is in?
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18:58.15asgjohndoe: #debian-bots
18:58.23blackholebabilen, is there some way i can make that user logged out..
18:58.32SerajewelKSpolitie: do you mean the installed package or the sources?
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18:58.42SerajewelKSblackhole: kill all their processes
18:58.49politiei didsudo apt-get build-dep bitlbee; apt-get source bitlbee
18:58.56babilenblackhole: kill his/her processes (you might want to start with the shell)
18:59.02politienow i want to apply the patch
18:59.04SerajewelKSpolitie: then 'ls -l' -- the directory you want is in the current directory
18:59.04alecs1hi, what could cause the following gdb problem: "Starting program: /usr/bin/konqueror  Cannot exec : No such file or directory. During startup program exited with code 127."?
18:59.10SerajewelKSpolitie: also, you should not be doing the building as root
18:59.15abrotmanjohndoe: he only listens to people in a channel with him .. you can join #debian-bots also if you prefer to not be here
18:59.20SerajewelKSpolitie: you can run 'apt-get source' as a non-root user
18:59.27politieah ok, should i redo?
18:59.39oggeino
18:59.42asgblackhole: also, the 'slay' package is very helpful
18:59.47SerajewelKSpolitie: "rm 'bitlbee*' -fr" should remove the source package
18:59.48oggeiyou just did ok politie
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18:59.58SerajewelKSpolitie: then go to a non-root user shell and 'apt-get source bitlbee' again
18:59.59politieok sec
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19:00.01oggeibut why, serajevelKS
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19:00.01SerajewelKSoggei: no he did not
19:00.03oggeireread
19:00.04johndoeabrotman: is there a web interface to its knowledge database?
19:00.08SerajewelKSoggei: because you should not build stuff as root
19:00.16oggei<fn'politie> i didsudo apt-get build-dep bitlbee; apt-get source bitlbee
19:00.20abrotmanjohndoe: for just querying? http://dpkg.vireo.org/
19:00.22oggei...
19:00.25johndoethanks
19:00.32politieok redid it
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19:00.40SerajewelKSoggei: ah, i missed that... sudo got merged with another word in my head
19:00.42SerajewelKSanyway
19:00.50SerajewelKSpolitie: now you should have a directory that begins with bitlbee
19:00.57politieyes i see it
19:01.06SerajewelKSpolitie: ok.  cd in there and look for the files you want to patch.
19:01.50politieok
19:02.04politieits a .patch file
19:02.21blackholebabilen, how i check processing running using that user
19:02.26SerajewelKSpolitie: ok, then you will have to use the patch command
19:02.31blackholebabilen, i checked ps aux | grep "usrname"
19:02.39blackholebut it doesn't gives me any process
19:02.52SerajewelKSpolitie: the arguments you have to give to patch depends on the patch file
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19:03.36politieallright, let me see if i can find out
19:03.50politiemuch appreciation for the help btw :)
19:04.03blackholeasg, i did sudo slay username
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19:04.10SerajewelKSpolitie: np
19:04.11blackholeasg, but still i cant delete
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19:04.37asgblackhole: how are you trying to remove the user? deluser or userdel? If you are getting errors, pastebin what you are doing.
19:04.52blackholeasg, i am using userdel
19:05.04blackholeasg, i get this -- userdel: user testuser is currently logged in
19:05.09asgblackhole: try userdel -f
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19:08.54Innocentushi all - anyone online? :)
19:09.11politieSerajewelKS, is there any way to find out the patch commands?, it doesnt say anything in the patch
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19:09.18unkmarbah
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19:09.58babilenpolitie: typically 'patch -p1 < patch'
19:10.17politiewhere patch' is patch name?
19:10.47babilenpolitie: first 'patch' -> the program, second 'patch' the patch you want to apply :-D
19:10.51Innocentushow can I assign multiple host-addresses to the same ip-addrss in the /etc/hosts-file?
19:11.14valdynInnocentus: man hosts
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19:11.51SerajewelKSpolitie: you probably want to do this first:  patch -p1 --dry-run < patchfile
19:12.02SerajewelKSpolitie: that will tell you if there will be any errors during the patch
19:12.04babilenInnocentus: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#HowtoassignmultipleIPaddresses
19:12.10SerajewelKSpolitie: if there are no errors, run it again without --dry-run
19:12.14tuvwhat is an easy-to-use traffic shaping tool?
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19:12.22valdynbabilen: he didnt ask for IP-Addresses
19:12.24Innocentushow can I exit the man-page :)
19:12.25tuvaka QoS
19:12.32babilenInnocentus: 'q'
19:12.35ZerSay, I noticed that on Ubuntu, adduser.conf DIR_MODE is 755, which seems like an awfully bad idea. Is that true for Debian as well?
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19:12.55valdynZer: optionally
19:13.18kenyoit this midnet
19:13.21kenyoit this midnet
19:13.28kenyoit this midnet
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19:14.04politieSerajewelKS, i typed patch -p1 --dry-run < path/patchfile and now it asks me "File to patch:"
19:14.10Innocentusthank you for taht link
19:14.24oggeipolitie: change -p
19:14.26SerajewelKSpolitie: hmm, try it without -p1
19:14.29oggeitry -p0
19:14.32Innocentushowever - there is nowhere mentioned how I can assign a single ip-address to a range of different host-names...
19:14.56oggeiInnocentus: man 5 hosts
19:15.03SerajewelKSInnocentus: specify the ip address multiple times
19:15.13politiedid p0, some chunks failed
19:15.26SerajewelKSpolitie: then the patch does not apply cleanly to that version
19:15.35politieah
19:15.39politieso it doesnt work?
19:15.44SerajewelKSpolitie: if you do patch without --dry-run then you will need to resolve conflicts yourself
19:15.53Innocentusok
19:15.53politiehmm
19:16.01Innocentusand how can I finally check if everything worked?
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19:16.08Innocentusis there a command where I can resolve an host-name?
19:16.20oggeigetent hosts
19:16.20politieif i do that, is there anything i need to do after that?
19:16.21Innocentusor an ip-address of the hosts-file to the range of hostname I have assigned
19:16.22Innocentusah
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19:16.34SerajewelKSpolitie: after what?
19:16.39politieafter the patch
19:16.45politiedo i need to compile then?
19:16.53SerajewelKSpolitie: yes, you will need to go to the files that it could not patch and resolve the conflicts yourself
19:16.54oggeiInnocentus: obviously you have to configure hosts file on client machine
19:16.55Innocentusfine
19:17.00politieooh ok
19:17.04politiei cant do that :p
19:17.12SerajewelKSpolitie: then i guess you are SOL :)
19:17.21politiehehe
19:17.36politiewell atleast i learned something, thanks again, really appreciate it
19:17.41InnocentusRestarting web server: apache2apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
19:17.42Innocentus<PROTECTED>
19:17.44Innocentuswtf
19:18.03SerajewelKSInnocentus: did you dick with the entry for the server's hostname?
19:18.09Innocentusyes
19:18.19SerajewelKSapache is very picky about that one :)
19:18.53SerajewelKSmake sure that for each virtualhost name you are using, you have a name in /etc/hosts that maps to the box's IP address
19:19.00oggeialso, first hosts associated with 127.0.0.1 on server hosts file must be a FQDN
19:19.14oggeilike: 127.0.0.1 foo.bar
19:19.25oggeiotherwise, it will complain (but it's ok anyway)
19:20.05politieSerajewelKS, it says it fails cause of this  saving rejects to file ......, does that mean the file is protected from writing maybe?
19:20.09Innocentushttp://nopaste.info/c6c31dc001.html
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19:20.11SerajewelKSoggei: i thought modern linux distros used 127.0.0.1 for localhost and 127.0.1.1 for the fqdn
19:20.13Innocentusthis is the vhost-configuration
19:20.19Innocentushowever - we have still that error with the resolvement
19:20.20SerajewelKSoggei: that's how d-i set up my server box and it works fine
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19:20.41oggeiSerajewelKS: that's your opinion
19:20.49SerajewelKSpolitie: no, it means that some of the patch hunks could not be applied, probably because the code being patched or the code near that area is different than the patch expects
19:21.03SerajewelKSoggei: it's not an opinion, it's an observation
19:21.15politieSerajewelKS, ah ok thanks :)
19:21.46oggeiSerajewelKS: maybe you changed also other things, that we were obmitting here
19:22.11oggeierm, omitting
19:22.13SerajewelKSoggei: nah, just installed it last week and haven't messed with the hosts file
19:23.08SerajewelKSat any rate, either one should work
19:23.14oggeiprobably your server return not a FQDN with hostname(1)
19:23.20oggeiright ? :)
19:23.39SerajewelKSoggei: you mean with -f or without -f?
19:23.42oggeiw/o
19:24.13SerajewelKSit does not.  i am unsure what that has to do with this though.
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19:26.05oggeido what you want, time is yours
19:27.00SerajewelKSheh, it's exactly irrelevent statements like that that make it clear you're here more for ego than discussion
19:27.05SerajewelKSgoes back to coding
19:27.42oggeiexactly like "Serajewelks goes back to coding" rotfl, exactly like all your responses if you read back
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19:28.04oggeihttp://wiki.apache.org/httpd/CouldNotDetermineServerName
19:28.04Innocentuswho took a look at my vhosts-file? :)
19:28.28oggeiSerajewelKS: go study
19:28.38oggeiand not bother with 127.0.1.1
19:28.39ZerIs there a way to set umask, outside of shells, such that it applies to everything?
19:28.45Zer(as a default)
19:28.51SerajewelKSoggei: right now i am more interested in what an fqdn return from 'hostname' means, but you seem unwilling to explain, and are simply dismissive
19:29.08Innocentusheey
19:29.35stewZer: you can use pam_env
19:29.46SerajewelKSZer: probably in /etc/profile... since umask is a property of the running process, you need to get it set somewhere where it will eventually be inherited by login shells, if that is what you are after
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19:30.58oggeiSerajewelKS: right now you're more interested to show a really bad attitude, so i will let this to your personal homework doing
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19:32.29SerajewelKSoggei: i'm unsure what being inquisitive has to do with a bad attitude... or what homework you are referring to
19:32.58oggeianyway, did you read at least apache wiki ? i promise i didn't changed that 5 minutes ago
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19:33.58oggeidon't understand how a stupid stuff like that can be so annoying for him and others :o
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19:34.08SerajewelKSoggei: yes, and it doesn't seem to indicate that it must map to 127.0.0.1, only that it must map to *something*
19:34.19oggeiso, you didnt' understood, ok.
19:34.39oggeitry to read again, slowly (and after that i'll stop with that, i promise)
19:34.56SerajewelKSoggei: all i can tell you is that i have it mapped to 127.0.1.1 in my hosts file, which is how the debian installer set it, and apache is working fine.  nothing more than that.  i am not saying that you are wrong, i am simply asking if there may be more than one correct configuration.
19:35.19SerajewelKSit's not a superiority contest, i am merely interested in information
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19:36.18Innocentus!! how can I see what connection apache2 is making?
19:36.20dpkgthat's too long, Innocentus
19:36.36Innocentusyou mean that with the connections?
19:36.38SerajewelKSInnocentus: what do you mean by "connection?"
19:36.55SerajewelKSInnocentus: dpkg is a bot and you started your line with !, which is used to get the attention of the bot.  just ignore it.
19:36.59Innocentuswell - when "he" is going to connect to a dns-server, or is downloading a file
19:37.06Innocentusah lol
19:37.10abrotmanInnocentus: netstat -plunt ?
19:37.22Innocentus-taupen -plunt?
19:37.24Innocentusstrange
19:37.30SerajewelKSInnocentus: what abrotman said.  though that will not show DNS connections, since they are UDP.
19:37.54Innocentusbut shouldn' they be so fast that they won't fall in weight?
19:37.58SerajewelKSInnocentus: and since they are UDP there is no list, since they are not connections to begin with
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19:38.25SerajewelKSInnocentus: "fall in weight?"
19:38.38Innocentusehh - are slowing so down my requests
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19:38.55SerajewelKSInnocentus: ah.  DNS traffic should be pretty close to nothing compared to your overall bandwidth.
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19:38.59Innocentuswhen I disable my internet connection the requests are very fast - when I enable it the requests are very slow
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19:39.32Innocentusthere is some unecessary connection before each request which is slowing so much down
19:39.47InnocentusI need to find out what kind of connection (dns, maybe even http) and disable such connections
19:39.56SerajewelKSInnocentus: ah, apache may be trying to reverse-resolve the ip addresses of incoming connections
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19:40.15Innocentushow can I disable that?
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19:40.21SerajewelKSInnocentus: when your internet connection is down this fails immediately, whereas when it is up it is probably waiting for a response.  at least this was the problem with slow responses from sshd.
19:40.42Innocentusyes
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19:40.46Innocentusthis could be a good explanation
19:40.59Innocentushow can I disable that unneeded feature because this is a development server?
19:41.32alecs1hi, which  would be a good channel to ask gdb questions?
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19:42.00SerajewelKSInnocentus: grep your apache configs for HostnameLookups
19:42.13Innocentushow to grep them?
19:42.14SerajewelKSInnocentus: it is off by default, so if this is the explanation then you are setting it on somewhere
19:42.16exeshow can I define sid, but only install it by doing something like apt-get -t sid install pkg
19:42.26Innocentusyes - i have checked it - it is off
19:42.31Innocentusso what could it be then?
19:42.33exesI use backports, I would like to have the same setup for sid
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19:42.46SerajewelKSInnocentus: hmm, i don't know then.  perhaps try using tcpdump to see what happens when you make a request in each scenario.
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19:43.33kre10sOK! I made a jail that seems to work, as root i can chroot /chroot /bin/rssh
19:43.52kre10srssh then tells me the account is restricted and tells me i have no access.
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19:44.47SerajewelKSInnocentus: out of curiosity, are you using allow or deny to limit access by IP?
19:44.59kre10sWhen i try to connect using dftp and a user whos shell is /bin/rssh it asks for the password, connects, and disconnects again.
19:45.00Innocentusno
19:45.07Innocentusbecause it is local and for development only
19:45.08SerajewelKSInnocentus: mmk, then it's not that either :/
19:45.18Innocentustcpdump could help?
19:45.21Innocentusi am just installing it
19:45.37kre10sI'm guessing this user does not have access either... is this what i set up in /etc/rssh.conf?
19:45.47SerajewelKSInnocentus: perhaps see http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/misc/perf-tuning.html -- maybe there are some clues there
19:45.55Innocentushow can I let tcpdump filter only data from apache-server?
19:46.11SerajewelKSInnocentus: you can't really
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19:46.26SerajewelKSInnocentus: if you are ssh'd into this box you can use 'not port 22' though to cut down on most of the extra traffic
19:46.28Innocentusso I have to guess
19:46.39Innocentusyes
19:46.43InnocentusI will go in directly
19:46.50Innocentusbut samba interferes
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19:47.12SerajewelKSInnocentus: then 'tcpdump -lnvvv not port 22 and not port 139 and not port 445'
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19:47.27SerajewelKSInnocentus: also, #apache might have some ideas too
19:47.51Innocentusthere is noone
19:48.38oOarthurOoI'm following the instructions to flash my lnksys router (wrt54gv5) with dd-wrt. I'm having trouble with step1. Set your computer to use a static IP of 192.168.1.8. (or to whatever subnet the router is on). Another page says "Set a static IP on your computer to 192.168.1.7. Subnet mask should be 255.255.255.0."  Can someone help me decipher this?
19:49.01oOarthurOoI thought routers assigned static ips, but the whole reason I'm flashing it is because linksys doesn't support static ips, only dhcp
19:49.27SerajewelKSoOarthurOo: what's this got to do with debian?
19:49.51oOarthurOoI'm using Debian...
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19:50.19SerajewelKSoOarthurOo: i use debian to run windows xp virtual machines too... that doesn't mean that xp config is on-topic :)
19:50.49oOarthurOoSerajewelKS, are you saying that I don't have to do anything on my Debian system to set it to use a static ip?
19:51.09ZerIs there any reason /etc/passwd needs to be readable to anyone but root?
19:51.22SerajewelKSoOarthurOo: i'm saying that you probably don't really need to use a static ip at all.  if you want to you can, it's up to you.  i installed dd-wrt recently and didn't need to.
19:51.38module000oOarthurOo: to set it to static, you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces to read as such
19:51.49SerajewelKSZer: so that when users 'ls -l' on files they can see who owns them instead of a number
19:52.07ZerAhh I see
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19:52.18SerajewelKSZer: basically, yes, all users should be able to read it.  but not /etc/shadow
19:52.19Innocentuswould wireshark on the host a good thing?
19:52.41ZerI was just thinking that, perhaps, if I didn't want them to know the names of all the users on the system.. :)
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19:52.46SerajewelKSInnocentus: sure.  that's basically a GUI that does the same thing as tcpdump.
19:53.01Innocentushm ok
19:53.10SerajewelKSZer: you'd be better off making sure all those users have good passwords :)
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19:55.21Innocentusah I found something interesting
19:55.27Innocentuswith wireshark and also with tcpdump
19:55.33Innocentusthere is something mentioned about microsoft-ds
19:55.41Innocentuswhich consumes muuch time before the server continues then
19:55.47Innocentuswhat could it be?
19:56.06Veritso, a little frustrated here.... i want to use start-stop-daemon to start a 2nd sshd, but it always writes in the WRONG pid file
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19:56.18Veriteven when i dont use the init.d script copy, just from the command line:
19:56.23Veritstart-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --pidfile /var/run/my-sshd.pid --exec /usr/sbin/mysshd -- -f /etc/ssh/my_sshd_config
19:56.51Veritit starts all right, uses the right config, but writes the pid into /var/run/sshd.pid - OVERWRITING the one of the already running sshd
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19:57.38Veritwhy does it do that? does it check the binary and think "im smarter, and will write into the WRONG pidfile!" ?
19:57.42SerajewelKSInnocentus: sounds like samba
19:57.47Innocentusdamn
19:57.52Innocentusthis can't be the reason then
19:58.03Innocentussome post processing in php maybe?
19:58.07Innocentusthis is quite wicked
19:58.23ZerIs mysshd the one writing the PID perhaps?
19:58.28Zerinstead of start-stop-daemon
19:58.37Innocentusaha
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19:58.54InnocentusI found something interesting - all .php-files have that problem when internet connection is online
19:59.07Innocentuswhile all other, normal static files like .html, .txt, .gif, etc. pp are loaded instantly
19:59.09SerajewelKSInnocentus: but not static content?
19:59.12SerajewelKSinteresting
19:59.14scratchmeHi all.  Is there a supported method to resize a root partition (/) created on an LVM which is mounted?
19:59.15topspinI have created an apache IP VirtualHost on a VIP for public use.  How do I secure debian installed packages (phpmyadmin, apache2-doc) which exist in the 'main' server (Alias /phpmyadmin ...) and get inherited by the IP VirtualHost?
19:59.17Innocentusstatic content works
19:59.21VeritZer: a plain sshd writes its own id? then shouldn't start-stop-daemon write the right one anyhow?
19:59.23scratchmeBy resize, I mean extend.
19:59.33Innocentuswhen I disconnect from internet - then the .php-files are also delivered fast
19:59.34VeritZer: the other file, /var/run/my-sshd.pid, is not even created
19:59.39SerajewelKSscratchme: yes, extending mounted ext filesystems is possible online
19:59.41scratchmeI have already extended the lv data.
19:59.58scratchmeSerajewelKS: I've already successfully done the lvextend command.  Now what?
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20:00.03SerajewelKSscratchme: then you should just have to do resize2fs on the lvm volume
20:00.13ZerIn fact Verit
20:00.24ZerTry -o PidFile /var/run/my-sshd.pid
20:00.27Zerpassed to the ssh daemon
20:00.37VeritZer: right, /var/run/sshd.pid is mentioned by the manpage of sshd
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20:00.45ZerI'm not sure about start-stop-daemon, but Google shows on http://cdn3.libsyn.com/starinfosec/sshd_config?nvb=20100115195006&nva=20100116200006&t=0fd58c35ca85e59020bc5
20:00.51SerajewelKSscratchme: just 'resize2fs /dev/...'
20:00.54Zerthat PidFile is an option you can pass to it, and -o is how you pass to sshd :)
20:00.57scratchmeSerajewelKS: Assuming it's not hosing me, it's working.
20:01.07VeritZer: so that option to start-stop-daemon is misleading and redundant
20:01.18topspinAnyone available with apache experience on Debian?
20:01.18ZerI'm not sure. I've never used start-stop-daemon :P
20:01.35ZerI just run things and use either pkill or kill `cat /blah` or whatnot
20:01.44SerajewelKStopspin: just ask your question, if someone knows the answer they will answer
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20:01.56topspinI tried that.  Thanks.
20:02.01VeritZer: i want proper startup scripts for reboots and all
20:02.10SerajewelKSscratchme: never had any problems here... use df after it's done to verify the new size
20:02.16Titan8990does anyone know why when i just created a job using `at` it was created as job 8 when there is no job 1-7 (atleast that show in `atq`)?
20:02.28ZerAhh, well, now you can get a PID at least
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20:02.37SerajewelKStopspin: then nobody knows :)
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20:03.07scratchmeSerajewelKS: is there a recommended block size?  I notice it's using 4k blocks which seems somewhat small.
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20:03.16chronwhat is a good gui cd burner program besides k3b? or anything that uses kde or gnome
20:03.30VeritZer: i think i get it, start-stop-daemon doesnt create it, it just checks for the one the program creates
20:03.40klyncchron: xcdroast
20:03.40SerajewelKSscratchme: IIRC it uses the same block size as the existing filesystem, since i don't believe it can change that while it's mounted
20:03.40chronthat doesn't use*
20:03.57SerajewelKSchron: i like brasero
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20:04.19ZerThat makes sense
20:04.25klyncwin 5
20:04.27scratchmeSerajewelKS: SerajewelKS I just looked it up.  Apparently 4k is normal.
20:04.27chronthat one is problematic
20:04.30klyncerr ...
20:04.43chronxcdroast = doesn't automatically do audio and brasero = too bloated, depends on gnome stuff
20:04.48SerajewelKSscratchme: yeah, i think it's quite average
20:04.57chronyou guys know of any others?
20:05.13VeritZer: works now, thats for the moral support :)
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20:05.14scratchmeSerajewelKS: took a bit, but it works.
20:05.15SerajewelKSchron: it's funny how you want it to automatically do stuff but don't like this "bloat"
20:05.18scratchme(worked)
20:05.24scratchmeSerajewelKS: thanks.
20:05.34SerajewelKSchron: if you don't want "bloat" then use cdrecord or something...
20:05.38SerajewelKSscratchme: np
20:05.39VeritZer: well, and pointing me to the sshd_config option :)
20:05.47chroni need gui
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20:05.58ZerSure :)
20:05.59SerajewelKSchron: but that depends on GTK!  BLOAT!
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20:06.23craigevilchron:  i use k3b with lxde, you might try mybashburn its uses ncurses
20:06.31SerajewelKSone man's bloat is another man's feature
20:06.55SerajewelKSpersonally i like the fact that i can burn audio CDs from music i have stored on a network share, which requires gvfs.  but that's just me.
20:07.18kleanchapWhat open source tools are important for forensics work?
20:07.48chronsleuthkit
20:07.50ZerI think with how much RAM a modern PC has, there is no reason to consider a GUI bloat. It saves a lot of time..
20:08.01SerajewelKSZer: that was sarcasm
20:08.02scratchmeHas anyone here used drdb ?  Is it easy to setup?
20:08.07ZerAhh
20:08.15chronthis is no modern pc and it needs to be user friendly
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20:08.25chronso shutup already if you duno lol
20:08.25SerajewelKSZer: basically, the more sophisticated and capable a program becomes, the more it's "bloated"
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20:08.44zinxSerajewelKS: i burn DVDs from the network using raw "growisofs" here :x
20:08.47SerajewelKSchron: heh.  if you want low requirements, cdrecord is the way to go
20:08.56ZerI think the perception is usually more about speed than size. OpenOffice for example is not big by modern standards, but...
20:09.01chronit needs to be user friendly
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20:09.17zinxchron: user friendly + no gui is going to be hard to find
20:09.23SerajewelKSzinx: assuming your network share is mounted somewhere, sure, that works fine
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20:09.51chronit has to be gui, i already said that
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20:09.58SerajewelKSzinx: i'm referring more to the ability i have to mount that network share with one click and then drag what i want into brasero.  it's the integration that makes it easy.  but i guess that's bloat.  :)
20:10.12unkmarI have a damaged package install. I need to fix it.  HOW?  it is either perl or perl-doc
20:10.17zinxchron: which guis are acceptable, then?
20:10.32zinxchron: you've already stated GNOME isn't, what are the others?
20:10.34chrongtk and qt is fine, gnome and kde isn't
20:11.08unkmarnevermind
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20:11.27scratchmeThanks all - SerajewelKS.  I'll bbl (no, not a threat ;)
20:11.33zinxchron: do you have severely limited hard drive space?
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20:11.37SerajewelKSscratchme: np
20:11.42thehurleyhello, i add the following rule to iptables "-A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT", now when i view the rules using "iptables -L" i see the following:
20:11.43thehurleytarget     prot opt source               destination
20:11.43thehurleyACCEPT     all  --  anywhere             anywhere
20:11.55thehurleyis this output misleading or am i really accepting all traffic?
20:12.03SerajewelKSthehurley: iptables -L -n -v
20:12.11SerajewelKSthehurley: the in/out interfaces are not shown without -v
20:12.42chronzinx no, but i'm concerned about stripping
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20:13.02xusergo to a streap club
20:13.03zinxstripping?
20:13.14craigevilchron:  k3b and brasero are by far the easiest to use, k3b 1.69.0~alpha4-1 works great
20:13.29thehurleySerajewelKS: thanks
20:13.30SerajewelKSi thought only NOW was concerned about stripping
20:13.35SerajewelKSthehurley: np
20:13.48zinxthere's xfburn too, but i can't comment about how easy it is to use as I've never used it - but that depends on xfce
20:13.49chroni like those, but they use too much memory
20:13.59zinxerh, what?
20:14.11zinxyou do not have to use GNOME or KDE to use a GNOME or KDE application
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20:14.20InnocentusI HAVE FOUND THE REASON!!!
20:14.25zinxKDE apps do start up a bunch of crap in the background, but GNOME ones don't
20:14.26SerajewelKSInnocentus: do share
20:14.33chroni know that
20:14.42Innocentusit was the php xdebug extension - autostart was on and the remote-ip adress was wrong
20:14.45craigevilchron:  how little ram do you have? i only have 512mb here and k3b works just fine on lxde
20:14.50SerajewelKSInnocentus: heh nice
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20:14.51Innocentusso xdebug tried to connect to a non existing ip address
20:14.58chron128
20:15.03Innocentusyea, thank you for your help
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20:15.08zinxadd some swap :/
20:15.11Innocentusfor tracking down that damn bug
20:15.12SerajewelKSInnocentus: np, glad you figured it out
20:15.21chroni'm talking about harddisk space, when i said memory, sorry
20:15.22zinxand don't do anything while you burn
20:15.25Innocentusit has cost me one day :)
20:15.31chronplz, no more suggestions, only program names :D
20:15.31Innocentusok g2g, bye :)
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20:15.46SerajewelKSchron: get some cheap RAM off ebay or something... seriously :/
20:15.51zinxi mentioned xfburn, it's probably your only other easy-to-use option
20:17.07chronyea i think xfburn might be it
20:17.28xuserchron: create a burn script :P
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20:18.23SerajewelKSi used to have a perl script for transcoding stuff to burn... it wasn't that hard
20:18.34SerajewelKSnowadays i'd probably do it in bash though
20:19.10SerajewelKSbut this was back when most burning programs' most consistent feature was SIGSEGV
20:19.49gnusosaclear
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20:21.34chronzinx: thx, it's it
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20:22.53keith4any way I can figure out if someone has already requested icinga to be packaged?
20:23.45Titan8990!wnpp
20:23.46dpkgFor information on packages which are not in Debian but you think should be, check the Work-Needing and Prospective Packages list at http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp   Also use the script wnpp-alert (from the devscripts package) to see what packages you are using that are in need of help.
20:23.52Titan8990keith4, see above
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20:24.08keith4Titan8990: beauty. thanks
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20:25.02netbookerat my school I need to use 802.11x WIRED authetication using PEAP and MSCHAP v2. What programs can I use to establish such a connection?
20:25.29netbookerI know in gnome I can use nm-applet, but I want a command line based one if possible. anyone know of such a program?
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20:26.50netbookerwow.. just found it
20:27.10kre10sHey, I think i got my chroot working now, I can chroot to it from a running ssh connection, but sftp still does not work.
20:27.10keith4wow
20:27.50kre10sI enabled sftp in /etc/rssh.conf "allowsftp"... but when connecting the connection is closed as soon as it opens
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20:28.44kre10swhen connecting with ssh the rssh shell starts, tells me the user is restricted(but not locked out) and exits.
20:29.16Titan8990kre10s, what is the user's default shell?
20:29.30kre10s/usr/bin/rssh
20:30.00Titan8990did you also install scponly?
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20:30.08kre10sno.
20:30.22kre10sonly rssh. And then i set up the chroot dir.
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20:30.57macman_abrotman: you there ?
20:31.05abrotmani said yes .. last night :)
20:31.10macman_lol
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20:31.35macman_do you use your pine/alpine via screen or you just have a terminal open with it running ?
20:32.06abrotmanmacman_: ssh via some terminal emulator
20:32.12macman_ok
20:32.35simonrvnabrotman uses pine?
20:33.03maligorI'm sure he uses telnet/imap
20:33.15kre10sTitan8990: i have one question: I read openssh supports chroot jailing users. do i have ssh jail the user and then run the /bin/rssh? or does rssh do the jailing?
20:34.11Titan8990kre10s, that I am not sure
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20:36.21simonrvnmaligor: heh
20:36.43kre10sAs i understand it. rssh is simply a shell that alow sftp scp but NOT ssh access. and optionally chroots users to a chroot jail...
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20:37.15jamonkre10s: http://openssh.org/txt/release-4.8 you want ChrootDirectory in your sshd_config
20:38.00kre10sjamon: that will chroot all users?
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20:38.33paradoxmonkeyWhat could make FTP slower then Samba? My lan ftp transfer speeds drop after a while while transfering.
20:38.46kihismm
20:38.59kihisany idea how do i get mysql based authentication to sftp server?
20:39.27kihisit there other ways to do it than pam+mysql?
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20:39.51stewkihis: many (most?) ftp servers will let you configure them for their own mysql authentication backend
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20:40.03stewkihis: oh Sftp
20:40.03stewnm
20:40.12kihisstew: yeah :<
20:40.13stewkihis: there is nss-mysql also
20:40.46kre10sjamon: if i chroot all users, what is the point of using rssh then? I might as well use sh...
20:40.50stewkihis: that is quite similar to doing it with pam, of course
20:41.45kihisstew: yeah. maybe i have to do it with that...
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20:41.57intxwhich version of debian works with the 2.4 kernel?
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20:42.03maligorkre10s, they might still execute in the sh
20:42.43kihisintx: sarge maybe? (just guess)
20:42.48stewintx: etch (the current old-stable version, which we are about to drop support for) partially supports it, most things will work, some are known not to work.  the last version to fully work with 2.4 is sarge, support for which was dropped years ago
20:43.48intxthanks
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20:44.24stewintx: i belive one of the things known to not work with etch and 2.4 is mysql, i believe another is postfix
20:44.35stew2.4 won't possibly work with lenny, the current stable version
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20:54.29d0xHi, why "beep" or echo -e "\a" doesn't work on my notebook
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20:55.56d0xit beeped once from the gnome-terminal
20:56.10d0xbut now it doesn't
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21:02.36kihisanyone installed apace tika on debian lenny? (part of apache lucene)
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21:04.18itsosimpocan anyone tell me why java applets aren't working in epiphany or iceweasel?
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21:05.29maligoritsosimpo, do you have the plugin installed?
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21:06.06stewitsosimpo: when you browse to "about:plugins" do you see a jvm configured?  if so, which?
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21:10.16itsosimpostew: where do i find that?
21:10.48stewitsosimpo: put "about:plugins" in your browser address bar
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21:25.21manicmanany hints how to setup a bluetooth mouse on squeeze? all i can find seems to be for lenny...:\
21:25.37SerajewelKSmanicman: i doubt it's that different
21:25.56manicmanhm.. there is no /etc/init.d/bluez on squeeze...
21:26.17stewthre is /etc/init.d/bluetooth instead?
21:26.28manicmanstew: yes
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21:41.30abrotmansimonrvn: yes, i like pine
21:42.15LoRethe deb line in http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/errata.en.html doesn't work, where to get sec-updates from?
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21:42.43SerajewelKS!doesn't work
21:42.43dpkgLook buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement.  Does it sit on the couch all day long?  Does it procrastinate doing the dishes?  Does it beg on the street for change?  Please be specific!  Define 'it' and what it isn't doing.  Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?".  Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>.
21:42.57stew!security
21:42.57dpkgPut "deb http://security.debian.org lenny/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in stable.  Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude dist-upgrade" if the updates are kept back).  Also ask me about <oldstable security>, <testing security>, <unstable security>.
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21:43.26LoReErr http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/main Packages
21:43.26LoRe<PROTECTED>
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21:44.14sergioI installed a lot of packages at the same time and now I'm without Internet on it. I don't have IP and I tried dhclient without success, what else could I try?
21:44.24paradoxmonkeyWhat could be the reason that FTP transfer speed drops after a while? Currently Samba is actually faster then FTP for me.
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21:45.36SerajewelKSLoRe: i don't think that's the right line
21:45.41SerajewelKSLoRe: use the one dpkg said
21:45.57maligorparadoxmonkey, probably issues in the server software or the client
21:46.03LoReSerajewelKS: that is the one
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21:46.14stewSerajewelKS: his link gives the same line
21:46.33SerajewelKSstew: ah i read the Err line as a deb line... oops
21:46.41stewand its not 404
21:46.49stewLoRe: which arch are you on?
21:46.53SerajewelKSyeah... LoRe, i have the same line and it's working for me
21:46.55LoRedanielt@bounty:~/src> grep \^deb /etc/apt/sources.list | grep sec
21:46.55LoRedeb http://security.debian.org lenny/updates main contrib non-free
21:47.13paradoxmonkeymaligor: I'm using vsftpd and filezilla, I also tried the build in ftp on a win machine - all witch gave the same result
21:47.34LoRestew: i686
21:48.07paradoxmonkeymaligor: At first the speed is somewhat in the 40MB/s range and then drops to 9-20MB/s
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21:48.50maligorparadoxmonkey, on a gigabit?
21:49.07stewLoRe: can you hit http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/main/binary-i386/ in a regular browser?
21:49.19paradoxmonkeymaligor: yes I'm on gigabit, an intel nic on the server side
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21:50.26LoRestew: no: http://pastebin.com/m5d7dffe1
21:50.45LoRestew: but strange i can access it on my workstation but not on my server
21:51.21sergioWhat could I use to get IP?
21:51.41stewLoRe: they are probably hitting different ips
21:52.04LoRegod damn it, some asshole has written security.debian.org into /etc/hosts!
21:52.20LoResorry for the noise
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21:52.57sergiostew, could you help?
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21:54.34ryanCHhow come when i specify, fping -b65000 localhost
21:54.46ryanCHit says destination unreachable?
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22:04.21abrotmanryan-c: lo is down? (and your quit message is broken)
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22:06.38HoneymanHello. I just noticed that my Midnight Commander stopped coloring the files/directories, and all of them are in the same gray color. Any known issue/fix for it?
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22:07.37HoneymanThis seems to be related to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=563797 , though I don't recall if I got any new MC recently.
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22:08.14QewHoneyman, that's a problem with the packaging of Sid's 4.7.0 build. The one that'll come out soon (4.7.0.1) should have that fixed.
22:08.49HoneymanQew: and did it recently propagated to testing?
22:09.00sergioabrotman, how can I get IP? I tried ifdown, ifup, dhclient, checked /etc/network/interfaces and /resolv.conf
22:09.47Qewah... no, it's not in Sid right now, but should be in hours. Either wait ten days, backport it, or install the Sid version using a mixed system.
22:10.29QewHoneyman: http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mc/news/20100115T192102Z.html
22:10.42HoneymanQew: No, I am not about it... I use testing, and I don't recall if I got 4.7.0 mc in testing recently. Probably, I didn't notice it, though.
22:10.53acumarius453, Hellowin Marius are you ther
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22:11.22QewHoneyman: Then you'll have to wait at least ten days for it to propogate to Testing.
22:11.25abrotmansergio: ifconfig -a
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22:11.51kre10shmmm. I got my chroot jail to work. following: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/590
22:12.18sergioabrotman, eth0 is there but without IP.
22:12.20HoneymanQew: I try to understand how I got the issue :) But if this is my issue, then it won't be a problem to use a Sid package temporarily.
22:12.26kre10sbut now ssh no longer works... it simply asks for the password. and sits there.
22:12.30abrotmansergio: so it doens't have one
22:12.41sergioI need one.
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22:13.17QewHoneyman: if you do, then make sure it's 4.7.0.1... so wait a few hours at least for that version to go into the repos.
22:13.18abrotmanso give it one
22:13.35sergioabrotman, I would if I knew.
22:13.37abrotmansergio: put your interfaces file in a pastebin
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22:14.35sergioabrotman, I can't but it's something like allow-hotplug eth0 \ ifce eth0 inet dhcp, I'm in another machine.
22:14.43sergioiface
22:14.45QewHoneyman: the 4.7.0 Sid version had some config files that dealt with highlighting missing; 4.7.0.1 should fix that and other upstream things.
22:14.52HoneymanQew: Uh, well. I was a bit impatient and used the deb from the FTP directly :)
22:15.04abrotmansergio: sounds fine to me .. so if you `dhclient eth0` .. it doesn't work ?
22:15.14sergioI'll try again.
22:15.19HoneymanQew: Seems it helps perfectly, indeed.
22:15.53QewHoneyman: I need to go AFK, so if you need any more help, you'll have to get it from another. Good luck.
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22:16.21sergioabrotman, it says bound to 192.168.1.4 renewal in .... seconds
22:16.25HoneymanThanks for your help - I fixed it
22:16.37abrotmansergio: sounds like it has an IP
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22:16.55sergioabrotman, not in ifconfig
22:17.21abrotmansergio: try giving it a static IP
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22:18.25running_rabbit07I am new to debian. I need to install nvidia graphics so I can get a decent resolution. I have it downloaded already, I just can't get it installed.
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22:19.09maligorrunning_rabbit07, you should try the packages in non-free first
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22:19.40running_rabbit07I am lost at doing that
22:20.01abrotman!tell running_rabbit07 about nvidia one-liner
22:22.09running_rabbit07I have tried the commands on the wiki and got the "command not found"
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22:24.03running_rabbit07I just did a clean install and I when I check for updates it shows that there are none
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22:26.23sergioabrotman, thanks, static worked.
22:27.36running_rabbit07Thanks for nothing
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22:30.25running_rabbit07Is anyone willing to help me get my install working? It is really hard to read anything with the 600x800 screen.
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22:31.55JordiGHSo xmodmap is old, right?
22:32.00running_rabbit07Well, nobody can say I didn't try when bashing Debian in UF then.
22:32.06JordiGHWhat am I supposed to do now to switch keys around nowadays?
22:32.26Hatter_how is it concievable that a this happens '-rwxrwxr-x  1 noble2 16777217    87952 2009-11-19 13:50 Beth Sometimes.xar' (the group should be 'users', like many other files in the same directory. but some of the groups have changed to this number)
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23:36.18running_rabbit07themill: thanks, I will do that, it is nice to have the info there when I am working, it is hard to search with the 600x800 res
23:36.18SerajewelKSMrNaz: squeeze will be released when it's ready, but sid doesn't ever get released.
23:36.18SerajewelKSMrNaz: after squeeze is released, testing will be called something else
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23:38.20running_rabbit07It only takes 30 minutes to install, so i may try again this weekend
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23:42.34SerajewelKSeightfold: run those iptables commands, presumably
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23:42.42SerajewelKSeightfold: it looks to me like you have all the information you need
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23:45.25junkLOL
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