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| 00:03.03 | shoppe | hi. when i try to use debian.org to search for packages, it's VERY slow. there is alot of lag |
| 00:03.15 | shoppe | are there any other mirrors that i could use? |
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| 00:03.57 | icebrain | why don't you use apt' |
| 00:04.09 | icebrain | *? |
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| 00:04.32 | craigevil | shoppe: apt-cache search or aptitude search, much faster |
| 00:05.12 | shoppe | i'm building a package using the debian repos. i'm not actually on debian though. |
| 00:05.15 | brabo | hey, is there any way of getting the exact creation date of user account? |
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| 00:06.00 | rooisto47 | LtL: babilen it's ok i'm downloading the testing/i386 dmm section with wget -rv <url> |
| 00:06.10 | rooisto47 | thank you for the help |
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| 00:09.39 | icebrain | brabo: I don't think there is one. You can check when was the last password change, though; if you never changed it after the creation date, it should match |
| 00:10.01 | brabo | true |
| 00:10.05 | icebrain | "passwd -S username" -> the 3rd field |
| 00:10.11 | brabo | yup |
| 00:10.24 | brabo | but as you say yourself, it does change after passwd change |
| 00:10.37 | brabo | home dir date wont work either |
| 00:11.09 | alekibango | try date of ~/.bash_logout |
| 00:11.33 | alekibango | i mean, most people do nto change files copied from /etc/skel ... |
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| 00:11.45 | alekibango | (when the account is created) |
| 00:11.45 | icebrain | I don't even have a .bash_logout := |
| 00:12.07 | alekibango | so ls -la /etc/skel first |
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| 00:12.28 | alekibango | and pick your file |
| 00:13.01 | alekibango | or just find oldest file in his home |
| 00:14.26 | brabo | yeah, i explored those options, but non guarantees i have the cration date |
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| 00:15.02 | cheako | Hello, I'm having a problem with s2disk. On reboot I get and error message saying something to the effect that I could have switched kernels and that attempting to mount file systems is deadly. |
| 00:15.38 | dutchfish | icebrain, what about passwd -S username ? |
| 00:15.46 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 00:15.58 | cheako | The potential for file-system corruption is lame, it means I can't boot this system no-matter what. Are there any plans to remove this in the future? |
| 00:16.03 | brabo | dutchfish: i just said.. that gives the time passw has been chaged last |
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| 00:16.21 | brabo | so if the user did change his passwd, that date in what you'll get, not creation date |
| 00:16.23 | cheako | That and is there any thing I can do about this? |
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| 00:17.05 | cheako | I've tested this several times, having to re-make the swap partition each time. |
| 00:20.01 | cheako | Ahh, it's an issue with 2.6.32. |
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| 00:25.52 | tensorpudding | anyone use qemu on debian stable? |
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| 00:26.41 | osx5 | hello |
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| 00:27.03 | osx5 | !seen nvz |
| 00:27.03 | dpkg | nvz <n=nvz@51.sub-75-226-124.myvzw.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 3d 21h 56m 1s ago, saying: 'newsense: idk, this is a tough one.. the problem seems to be known to anyone who has ever tried burning a dvd on any hardware on linux.. but answers seem few and far between'. |
| 00:27.05 | skai-falkorr | hi |
| 00:27.06 | babilen | tensorpudding: Yes - have a look at popcon to get some numbers |
| 00:27.32 | tensorpudding | i had a question about it, wondered if i was the only one having problems |
| 00:27.39 | osx5 | hey can any of you explain chmod and how you know which numbers will do the r, w, x permissions . I'm a newb |
| 00:27.40 | abrotman | osx5: you can msg the bot |
| 00:27.48 | abrotman | !tell osx5 about permissions |
| 00:28.01 | osx5 | thanks |
| 00:28.02 | babilen | tensorpudding: That's hard to answer without knowing about your problem. You might want to check the BTS too |
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| 00:31.06 | tensorpudding | i don't see the error i'm getting in the bts |
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| 00:32.30 | tensorpudding | but i did see the error mentioned in an ubuntu mailing list when i did a google search |
| 00:33.01 | skai-falkorr | anybody have linuxformat pdf? |
| 00:33.10 | brabo | the access time that stat returns, is that the first time its been accessed? |
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| 00:35.11 | abrotman | skai-falkorr: the magazine? wouldn't it be better to ask google |
| 00:35.41 | shoppe | yeah. it just /part |
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| 00:35.46 | skai-falkorr | yes.latest lxf in pdf |
| 00:35.54 | skai-falkorr | anebody have? |
| 00:36.00 | skai-falkorr | can you share it? |
| 00:36.07 | abrotman | wrong channel |
| 00:36.32 | abrotman | skai-falkorr: ask them for it, this channel is for Debian support |
| 00:37.24 | skai-falkorr | ok/where can i downloads testing release?there is no one torrent on cdimage |
| 00:37.48 | newsense | skai-falkorr: don't do it |
| 00:38.11 | skai-falkorr | why? |
| 00:38.24 | newsense | just decided to install testing on a box for a friend and had problems getting nvidia bin driver working |
| 00:38.37 | newsense | some depend issues |
| 00:38.50 | abrotman | skai-falkorr: so just get the ISO |
| 00:39.09 | abrotman | newsense: that problem is solved by not using hardware from companies that suck |
| 00:39.16 | skai-falkorr | iso of stable? |
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| 00:39.19 | newsense | abrotman: nvidia ? |
| 00:39.25 | abrotman | yes |
| 00:39.27 | abrotman | skai-falkorr: that'll work too |
| 00:39.49 | newsense | don't tell me you like ATI ? |
| 00:40.26 | skai-falkorr | my opinion-ati sucks.depend on my expirience |
| 00:40.26 | abrotman | newsense: i like companies that support OSS and provide opensource drivers for their hardware .. ATI is one of those, Nvidia is not |
| 00:40.48 | newsense | abrotman: so thers is no alternative to the binary driver from nvidia ? |
| 00:40.49 | skai-falkorr | ati?!where?in what universe? |
| 00:40.54 | abrotman | at least ati provides it for some of their hardware (or provided specs so OSS people could write one) |
| 00:41.15 | abrotman | newsense: nouveau .. not really a great alternative yet, but coming along (but not supported by nvidia) |
| 00:41.21 | abrotman | skai-falkorr: since like two years ago .. |
| 00:41.23 | skai-falkorr | "some" is wery good word |
| 00:41.36 | abrotman | skai-falkorr: nvidia does it for *none* |
| 00:41.49 | newsense | abrotman: so basically wait it out till the dependency problem is fixed ? |
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| 00:42.14 | abrotman | newsense: or use the nv driver if that will suffice (no 3d accel but hopefully should work) |
| 00:42.45 | newsense | abrotman: just add nv to my device section ? |
| 00:43.06 | abrotman | or mv your xorg.conf aside .. if the card is supported, the driver should be magically loaded |
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| 00:43.50 | newsense | abrotman: he's got an XF86config |
| 00:43.55 | abrotman | so? |
| 00:43.59 | \3TATUK | !easy sid backports |
| 00:44.06 | abrotman | !tell \3TATUK about ssb |
| 00:44.18 | abrotman | newsense: the OS should be able to guess it .. try it and see |
| 00:44.34 | \3TATUK | Thanks. |
| 00:44.48 | abrotman | skai-falkorr: newsense http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon#FOSS_drivers |
| 00:45.45 | skai-falkorr | and what about HD video on ati?something like VDPAU? |
| 00:45.51 | skai-falkorr | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU |
| 00:45.52 | abrotman | skai-falkorr: did you read the link ? |
| 00:46.11 | newsense | abrotman: yeah i guess the nv driver isn't supported with my card |
| 00:46.20 | abrotman | newsense: lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 00:46.23 | skai-falkorr | how about ati x1300 |
| 00:46.24 | skai-falkorr | ? |
| 00:46.30 | newsense | NV: ignoring unsupported device |
| 00:46.36 | paissad | hi all, if i would like to just rsync files whose suffix is *.foo from remote host to local machine, what must i do ? |
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| 00:47.07 | newsense | 10de:0849 8200 |
| 00:47.11 | abrotman | skai-falkorr: that's an OSS library, which still depends on the GPU to do the work .. but you'd still need the closed source nvidia binary drivers |
| 00:47.17 | newsense | Geforce 8200 |
| 00:47.28 | paissad | i tried rsync -t *.c $remote-machine:$dir $saveto |
| 00:47.33 | paissad | but it's wrong |
| 00:47.45 | skai-falkorr | on my 8600gt binary works great |
| 00:47.57 | skai-falkorr | and |
| 00:48.01 | abrotman | newsense: it says the G80 and G84 are supported .. hrm |
| 00:48.03 | skai-falkorr | http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nouveau |
| 00:48.10 | abrotman | skai-falkorr: which isn't nvidia |
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| 00:48.47 | skai-falkorr | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nouveau |
| 00:48.53 | abrotman | still not nvidia |
| 00:48.54 | newsense | it's an 8200 onboard |
| 00:48.57 | skai-falkorr | and this will be soon |
| 00:49.04 | abrotman | skai-falkorr: you're not paying attention .. |
| 00:49.07 | skai-falkorr | what isn'yt nvidia? |
| 00:49.55 | abrotman | i said about nouveau ten minutes ago .. nvidia didn't provide them with specs .. they're trying to reverse the binary garbage that nvidia gives to its users |
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| 00:50.41 | abrotman | newsense: well, they changed how they probe (again) so i can't figure out if it should be supported or not |
| 00:50.54 | skai-falkorr | ou/10 minets ago ypu speaks about noveau... i guess that was about ati:) |
| 00:51.39 | abrotman | no, you're not paying attention .. |
| 00:51.44 | newsense | abrotman: dam |
| 00:51.53 | abrotman | newsense: and i don't see anything in the docs about it |
| 00:52.26 | abrotman | newsense: there is a newer version in sid .. |
| 00:52.49 | skai-falkorr | abortman еÑли Ñ Ð±ÑÐ´Ñ Ð³Ð¾Ð²Ð¾ÑиÑÑ Ð½Ð° ÑÑжом Ñебе ÑзÑке-ÑÑ ÑможеÑÑ ÑледиÑÑ Ð·Ð° беÑедой? |
| 00:53.05 | abrotman | skai-falkorr: please use english |
| 00:53.05 | newsense | abrotman: xserver-xorg-video-nv ? |
| 00:53.08 | abrotman | newsense: yes |
| 00:53.14 | abrotman | skai-falkorr: this channel is english only |
| 00:53.27 | newsense | abrotman: i will try that thanks |
| 00:54.35 | abrotman | skai-falkorr: and no, i do not understand russian, so asking me if i can communicate in russian isn't very good .. but i don't pretend to speak russian |
| 00:55.02 | skai-falkorr | abortman i'm asking: If I speak in a foreign language to you, you can follow the conversation? ;) |
| 00:55.19 | skai-falkorr | your russian is google translate? |
| 00:55.20 | abrotman | newsense: i dont know if that one would support it either |
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| 00:55.44 | cheako | I'm looking at the security reports for 2.6.x. Some of these are pretty bad. Is there any cause to still be running 2.4.x or is there a early 2.6 kernel that has had security patches applied? |
| 00:56.15 | abrotman | huh? |
| 00:56.22 | newsense | abrotman: i'll try it, worth a shot |
| 00:56.30 | abrotman | cheako: what's wrong with the kernel in lenny ? |
| 00:57.21 | Fazer2 | people are still running 2.4.x? |
| 00:57.33 | abrotman | Fazer2: it still gets a new release from time to time |
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| 00:58.27 | cheako | abrotman: Ahh, that's a good point. My view is skewed because I need the features of the newer kernels, WiFi fixes mostly. |
| 00:58.37 | abrotman | cheako: /msg dpkg bpo |
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| 01:02.39 | RichardG | ok, needs help, newcomer to Debian but not to Linux |
| 01:02.53 | skai-falkorr | like me:) |
| 01:02.58 | skai-falkorr | what help? |
| 01:03.01 | RichardG | when I plug my modem to a brand new install of Debian 5.0.3 on my P2 server |
| 01:03.11 | RichardG | it won't resolve anything or throw "network is unreachable" |
| 01:03.15 | RichardG | it's on router mode so no PPPoE |
| 01:03.35 | abrotman | does the modem have dhcp server for the internet network ? |
| 01:03.43 | abrotman | did you set your wired nic to use DHCP ? |
| 01:03.43 | RichardG | if I powercycle the modem it doesn't light up the "Internet" light, only lights up when I connect it back to my PC |
| 01:03.52 | RichardG | DHCP gives me an Internet address |
| 01:04.08 | RichardG | I also tried to use a static IP on the modem's range, also nothing |
| 01:04.13 | abrotman | you sure it's in router mode / |
| 01:04.14 | PARLIAMENT | dkr: thanks for the find advice |
| 01:04.27 | skai-falkorr | what modem? |
| 01:04.38 | RichardG | abrotman: it is |
| 01:04.44 | RichardG | skai-falkorr: Speedtouch 510v6 |
| 01:05.34 | skai-falkorr | webui is reachable? |
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| 01:06.04 | RichardG | skai-falkorr it's a plain install from CDs 1 and 2 |
| 01:06.10 | RichardG | no links or lynx |
| 01:06.39 | abrotman | w3m ? |
| 01:06.58 | abrotman | RichardG: is it a USB modem or dual ethernet ? |
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| 01:07.04 | RichardG | no w3m |
| 01:07.09 | RichardG | abrotman: it's DSL, single port |
| 01:07.43 | abrotman | so it is a USB modem ? |
| 01:07.48 | RichardG | no |
| 01:07.49 | skai-falkorr | no |
| 01:07.50 | RichardG | it's Ethernet |
| 01:07.50 | abrotman | oh .. one rj45, one rj11 |
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| 01:08.12 | p3rror | hello |
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| 01:08.39 | p3rror | i got a problem with udev when i did a apt-get upgrade |
| 01:08.41 | p3rror | http://pastebin.com/m6cade372 |
| 01:09.09 | skai-falkorr | so did i understand right, your modem dont reache any network?include webui?or just inet? |
| 01:09.26 | RichardG | there are no browsers for reaching the modem's webui |
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| 01:09.41 | abrotman | p3rror: why are you triyng to install a udev not for lenny, on lenny ? |
| 01:10.04 | skai-falkorr | at install? |
| 01:10.13 | skai-falkorr | try livecd |
| 01:10.23 | RichardG | skai-falkorr: installed system |
| 01:10.26 | RichardG | from cd1 and cd2 |
| 01:10.46 | abrotman | RichardG: is the link light on your computer's NIC ? |
| 01:10.57 | p3rror | abrotman, i use squeeze/sid |
| 01:11.03 | skai-falkorr | and this cd isnt livecd? |
| 01:11.17 | RichardG | abrotman: I can get an address with DHCP, so presuming yes |
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| 01:11.42 | abrotman | RichardG: but the modem doesn't make a connection to the ISP ? |
| 01:11.53 | abrotman | p3rror: your udev is from lenny ... |
| 01:12.05 | RichardG | abrotman: no ISP auth |
| 01:12.09 | RichardG | it's on router mode, so no PPPoE |
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| 01:12.31 | abrotman | RichardG: i realize that .. i'm asking if the router is connecting to the ISP or not (i didn't ask about authentication) |
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| 01:12.56 | RichardG | abrotman: it is |
| 01:13.05 | RichardG | the DSL light lights up |
| 01:13.10 | RichardG | but the Internet one doesn't |
| 01:13.19 | RichardG | it lights up when activity is detected |
| 01:13.33 | skai-falkorr | and now you sit her from where? |
| 01:13.47 | RichardG | I'm on my PC |
| 01:13.47 | p3rror | abrotman, i dont think so it try t replace the old udev |
| 01:13.59 | p3rror | abrotman, all i did is apt-get upgrade |
| 01:14.12 | skai-falkorr | from this modem or not? |
| 01:14.16 | p3rror | abrotman, the error that i get is that i have to upgrade my kernel |
| 01:14.30 | p3rror | abrotman, even i run the 2.6.30 |
| 01:14.42 | p3rror | abrotman, and CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED=y |
| 01:15.00 | newsense | p3rror: you gotta creata a file in /etc/udev/ i thimnk its called kernel-upgrade |
| 01:15.00 | RichardG | skai-falkorr: the modem |
| 01:15.31 | abrotman | p3rror: `dpkg -l libc6 udev linux-image*' .. put it in a pastebin |
| 01:15.35 | newsense | p3rror: look at the error closely you should see the instruction |
| 01:16.56 | p3rror | abrotman, it's worked |
| 01:17.07 | p3rror | abrotman, i've created /etc/udev/upgrade-kernel file |
| 01:17.11 | newsense | :) |
| 01:17.31 | abrotman | so you weren't running squeeze before .. |
| 01:17.42 | p3rror | i ran it |
| 01:17.46 | newsense | doesn't sound like it, i figured so |
| 01:18.08 | abrotman | p3rror: you might want to try an 'aptitude dist-upgrade' |
| 01:18.13 | p3rror | cat /etc/issue; Debian GNU/Linux squeeze/sid \n \l |
| 01:19.09 | p3rror | abrotman, yes i do |
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| 01:20.56 | p3rror | i have a question about tcpdump |
| 01:21.04 | p3rror | when i tape : sudo tshark -i eth0 tcp[32:5]=0x1703010000 |
| 01:21.12 | p3rror | i got That string isn't a valid capture filter (data size must be 1, 2, or 4). |
| 01:21.25 | p3rror | do you know any tools that could perform this |
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| 01:22.19 | PovAddict | are there debtags for software licenses? |
| 01:24.13 | abrotman | PovAddict: i don't think so |
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| 01:26.45 | RichardG | back with networking problems |
| 01:26.55 | RichardG | I fixed the nameservers on /etc/resolv.conf |
| 01:27.08 | skai-falkorr | and? |
| 01:27.08 | RichardG | now I get "resource temporarily unavailable" when resolving anything |
| 01:27.35 | skai-falkorr | what dns?from your isp or not? |
| 01:27.42 | skai-falkorr | try another |
| 01:27.44 | RichardG | Google Public |
| 01:27.59 | RichardG | after I changed the DNS server |
| 01:28.00 | ^] | double check file syntax |
| 01:28.02 | RichardG | and did a test netcat |
| 01:28.11 | RichardG | the Internet light was lit |
| 01:28.22 | skai-falkorr | nameserver 208.67.222.222 |
| 01:28.24 | skai-falkorr | nameserver 208.67.220.220 |
| 01:28.26 | skai-falkorr | opendns |
| 01:28.31 | skai-falkorr | woks fine |
| 01:28.38 | RichardG | why opendns, I use Google Public |
| 01:28.58 | skai-falkorr | try this.i dont believe to google:) |
| 01:29.13 | RichardG | I swear it works |
| 01:29.24 | ^] | skai-falkorr: someont prefer don't trusting opendns, and anyway message reported by op isn't related to this |
| 01:29.50 | skai-falkorr | and what about 212.94.96.124? |
| 01:29.55 | skai-falkorr | this dns |
| 01:29.57 | skai-falkorr | 6) |
| 01:30.09 | Tramp | p3rror: can't you do just: "tcp[32:4]=0x17030100" and "tcp[36]=0x00" |
| 01:30.45 | skai-falkorr | ^] U R from russia |
| 01:31.32 | ^] | RichardG: are you sure about resolv.conf, and also that error is resolution related ? |
| 01:31.33 | RichardG | yes |
| 01:31.37 | RichardG | I get "resource temporarily unavailable" |
| 01:31.54 | ^] | and why are you sure that this relates to dns problems ? |
| 01:32.09 | RichardG | yes |
| 01:32.10 | skai-falkorr | potomuchto gladiolus |
| 01:32.14 | skai-falkorr | :) |
| 01:32.15 | RichardG | I get a cannot resolve error |
| 01:32.18 | RichardG | with this message |
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| 01:32.33 | ^] | skai-falkorr: no |
| 01:34.04 | skai-falkorr | you say "someonT prefer"/it looks like you mismatch t and e(which in same button on cyrrilic keyboard);) |
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| 01:35.32 | RichardG | oh, I nearly forgot, the computer can talk to the modem |
| 01:36.08 | p3rror | Tramp, yep :) |
| 01:36.47 | Tramp | so I take that as "Thank you Tramp, brilliant idea" - yw. |
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| 01:38.20 | ^] | Thank you Tramp, brilliant idea |
| 01:39.57 | RichardG | ... |
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| 01:41.07 | ^] | RichardG: anyway "resource temporarily unavailable" does not mean things like "dns temporarily unreachable" |
| 01:42.11 | RichardG | I know pretty nothing about this error |
| 01:42.22 | ^] | it's a message coming probably from some library, and if that error comes when the program is resolving, then the program will tell you "resolution error" |
| 01:42.27 | RichardG | all I can say is that I can talk to the modem but not to the internet |
| 01:42.30 | RichardG | the program is netcat |
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| 01:43.00 | ^] | so the problem is obviously not resolution related, but a rather generical connectivity issue, no ? |
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| 01:43.28 | RichardG | all I want to know is how can I solve this |
| 01:43.53 | ^] | but that is necessarily not what i want to tell you, so good luck |
| 01:43.59 | dkr | what's the bot command to get a list of all versions of a package for each release? |
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| 01:46.05 | p3rror | Tramp, so if i need to set a block with iptables do you think that '32=0x17030100 && 36=0x00' will work ? |
| 01:46.23 | dkr | well, packages.debian.org works, too :) |
| 01:46.31 | babilen | dkr: either install devscripts and use rmadison, or /msg judd versions. I encourage you to use rmadison |
| 01:46.38 | ^] | dkr: "judd: version <pkg>" iirc |
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| 01:47.03 | dkr | thanks. sorry for the mistell earlier jelly. I knew it started with a j. heh |
| 01:47.35 | ^] | uh, rmadison is neat |
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| 01:47.54 | babilen | :-D - lot's of gems in devscripts |
| 01:48.06 | \3TATUK | E: Build-Depends dependency for mumble cannot be satisfied because the package quilt cannot be found |
| 01:48.16 | ^] | babilen: yeah :) |
| 01:48.33 | \3TATUK | when trying `sudo apt-get build-dep mumble` |
| 01:48.39 | \3TATUK | any ideas about that? |
| 01:48.39 | babilen | ^]: try "bts show --mbox #<bug_no>" |
| 01:48.48 | Tramp | p3rror: not sure what netfilter would have to do with your tcpdumping |
| 01:49.32 | ^] | babilen: WHOA \o/ |
| 01:49.34 | p3rror | Tramp, i only want to block some traffic that have this signature inspected by tcpdump |
| 01:49.52 | babilen | ^]: have fun exploring the others |
| 01:50.08 | ^] | in mutt, i'm crying |
| 01:50.11 | p3rror | Tramp, so i need to block ip/tcp packet that contains 0x1703010000 in their data |
| 01:50.11 | ^] | :)) |
| 01:50.29 | Tramp | p3rror: cool. and there is a module for iptables that takes pcap expressions as input? |
| 01:50.42 | ^] | babilen: i'll definitely checkout dpkg -L as i normally use something but not those tricks |
| 01:50.46 | Tramp | module for netfilter even |
| 01:50.46 | ^] | (thx) |
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| 01:51.45 | p3rror | Tramp, yep u32 |
| 01:52.07 | p3rror | http://www.stearns.org/doc/iptables-u32.v0.1.7.html |
| 01:53.07 | Tramp | p3rror: cool indeed - so if it takes this (and also the "and" part), it looks like your solution |
| 01:54.14 | babilen | ^]: querybts, apt-file, ... |
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| 01:55.42 | ^] | babilen: well usually i work with querybts, dch, debuild or debi, but i'm missing bunch of others |
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| 01:56.29 | RichardG | back |
| 01:56.31 | ^] | i love debian environment and tools you can find in it, after 10+ |
| 01:56.35 | RichardG | when I change the nameserver to my modem's IP |
| 01:56.38 | ^] | years i'm still learning |
| 01:56.46 | babilen | ^]: true :-) |
| 01:57.00 | RichardG | google.com [64.233.163.104] 80 (www) : Network is unreachable |
| 01:57.42 | RichardG | I can w3m to the modem but I keep getting username or password incorrect |
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| 01:57.50 | ^] | RichardG: have you correctly configured a default gateway ? |
| 01:58.13 | RichardG | how? I don't remember the command |
| 01:58.32 | Devastator | RichardG edit /etc/network/interfaces and add gateway line |
| 01:58.33 | ^] | begin checking with netstat -rn if you have a route for 0.0.0.0 |
| 01:58.35 | RichardG | ok |
| 01:58.51 | Devastator | gateway address will be your modem's ip |
| 01:59.10 | RichardG | there is a route to 0.0.0.0 |
| 01:59.31 | ^] | and there is only one ? and this route points to your modem ip ? |
| 01:59.43 | RichardG | */etc/network/interfaces only has lo |
| 01:59.56 | Devastator | lol, that's why |
| 02:00.14 | nsadmin | RichardG: so your net is not configured completely |
| 02:00.17 | ^] | devastator: consider that is currently resolving google.com, using his modem address ad nameserver |
| 02:00.44 | RichardG | if I set to any other DNS I get resource unavailable |
| 02:00.50 | ^] | so he face at least on another lan |
| 02:00.58 | RichardG | and my modem forces me to use my telco's DNS = not needed |
| 02:01.11 | Devastator | add these lines: auto eth0 ENTER, iface eth0 inet dhcp, save, reboot :P |
| 02:01.31 | nsadmin | not reboot necessarily |
| 02:01.48 | Devastator | oh yeah, /etc/init.d/network restart |
| 02:02.13 | babilen | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:02.15 | nsadmin | or just ifup eth0 in that case |
| 02:02.17 | RichardG | oh thanks |
| 02:02.27 | Devastator | sorry, typo |
| 02:02.31 | nsadmin | but.. you say you're resolving names now? |
| 02:02.35 | RichardG | done |
| 02:02.37 | RichardG | swapping |
| 02:03.05 | ^] | he pasted an evidence of a succesful dns resolution, nsadmin |
| 02:03.40 | nsadmin | well he is on the net right now... |
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| 02:03.58 | nsadmin | that evidence could be from another machine |
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| 02:04.49 | nsadmin | but one that also uses the same external connection |
| 02:05.10 | Devastator | well, I really can't say, but he's from brazil and I had one dsl modem just like the one he has, if it's in router mode, dhcp is enabled, so he just need to configure eth0 or whatever nic he uses to use dhcp |
| 02:05.16 | oscurochu | How does the debian release stuff work? How long are packages usually in "unstable" and what is the package considered after its no longer "unstable"? and what is the package considered before it enters "unstable" |
| 02:05.31 | ^] | nsadmin: everything can be, indeed |
| 02:05.55 | ^] | ok bedtime, i'll go study devscripts \o/ |
| 02:06.13 | abrotman | !tell oscurochu about releases |
| 02:06.35 | abrotman | oscurochu: a package is usually there 2-10 days, assuming it has no RC bugs, then they go to testing .. |
| 02:06.37 | nsadmin | oscurochu: before unstable, it's considered to be not uploaded |
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| 02:07.37 | nsadmin | or if the dev guy wants, he can put it in experimental first |
| 02:08.01 | oscurochu | oh ok thanks |
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| 02:09.39 | smacnay | I am trying to get xrdp to allow connections on a lan. Server is running and connections get to "connecting to 127.0.0.1 5911" then "error - problem connecting". I am not sure if there needs to be anything opened up on the router (although connections seem to initiate) or if there is some server-side setting I am missing. |
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| 02:18.38 | xPhilosx | Anyone know of a way to watch an apple screencast in linux? My uni's computer science department toutes linux and then they go and use some bs non-compatible program like iTunes for their web-based classes. |
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| 02:19.44 | abrotman | what format is it? |
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| 02:20.29 | xPhilosx | no idea, the link is to the apple servers and its probably protected |
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| 02:20.55 | niriven | Hello. How do i installd ebian i fthe install cd's do not seem to contain wpa_supplicant, and i need it to install wirelessly? |
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| 02:24.31 | beardy | niriven: In such a case I'd download a bigger installer, as in the first cd, and make sure wpa_supplicant is on it, install, and then be on the road. |
| 02:25.06 | niriven | beardy, the bigger installer (cd1) does not seem to have it either. |
| 02:25.57 | beardy | niriven: Hmm, well you can get the pacakge separately, and its dependencies, and install them after the base system is in, if you use the netinstaller for example. |
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| 02:26.21 | beardy | niriven: From packages.debian.org |
| 02:26.54 | niriven | beardy, right, so i guess tehres no debian installers that include wpa_supplicant :( |
| 02:27.28 | beardy | niriven: There might be, but I don't know of one. It's a good point though, it should. |
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| 02:28.59 | niriven | beardy, im so used to gentoo and arch linux having them when i install i was just suprised debian didnt. Some people just do not have access to a wire, even during install :-0 |
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| 02:29.08 | beardy | niriven: (The first dvd hopefully. But, I guess more people use "network manager" or what its real name, the gui thingy, it might have a low popularity score.. |
| 02:29.28 | beardy | niriven: Yeah. It's something that should be.. done. |
| 02:30.22 | niriven | beardy, network manager uses wpa_supplicant in the background i believe :) |
| 02:31.14 | beardy | niriven: Very likely, but not sure on that. |
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| 02:33.44 | beardy | niriven: Manually getting the dependencies for, and wpa_supplicant is your most bandwidth saving option anyway. Not sure where to poke to suggest it being included in atleast cd1, if not the "big" netinstaller, but we should look into that.. |
| 02:33.48 | babilen | !tell niriven -about cd content |
| 02:34.14 | beardy | babilen: Do you know if all cd:s contain the installer nowadays? |
| 02:34.31 | babilen | d-i? |
| 02:34.34 | beardy | only knows about woody cd:s, and only the first three did IHRC |
| 02:34.41 | beardy | Yeah. |
| 02:34.48 | beardy | If they boot the installer. |
| 02:35.13 | babilen | i never used anything but PXE or netinstall ... sorry not sure about that :-\ |
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| 02:36.27 | niriven | babilen, well that helps me narrow down that wpa_supplicant does not exist :-/ thanks. |
| 02:36.29 | beardy | The question is up for anyone then :) But if they do then niriven can grab the one he needs.. is what I meant. |
| 02:36.55 | babilen | niriven: it's wpasupllicant and is on CD1 |
| 02:37.15 | Dewi | 'wpasupplicant' |
| 02:37.22 | beardy | Yes.. what they said. |
| 02:37.36 | babilen | Dewi: thanks :-) |
| 02:37.41 | Dewi | :) |
| 02:37.52 | niriven | oh. sorry, other distros have been calling it with the _, so, cd1 has it, so when i boot i can use it? |
| 02:38.03 | babilen | niriven: http://atterer.net/jigdo/jigdo-search.php?q=wpasupplicant+_amd64 (replace amd64 with your architecture) |
| 02:38.05 | beardy | niriven: Yep. |
| 02:38.37 | niriven | beardy, i coulda sworn i downloaded, burned, typed in w(tab), and it didnt show up. Maybe i have to install it first with apt-get? |
| 02:38.37 | babilen | niriven: You might also need firmware for your adaptor |
| 02:38.42 | beardy | niriven: After you install the base system, you can install the packages on the cd, then you edit your sources.list, update, and install whichever packages you like. |
| 02:38.45 | niriven | babilen, already have that taken care of |
| 02:38.58 | babilen | niriven: great. Just wanted to make sure :-D |
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| 02:39.18 | niriven | babilen, really i just need wpa_supplicant, my firmware, my configuration script i have, and a dhcp client |
| 02:39.29 | beardy | niriven: (When you have got your network connection up.) |
| 02:39.34 | niriven | beardy, babilen So, its on the cd, but probably not 'installed', so i install it off the cd first? |
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| 02:41.11 | babilen | niriven: exactly |
| 02:41.13 | beardy | niriven: All installers install the base system, after that, your system will install packages from the cd if you installed with the "cd1", as opposed to a netinstaller. So yes, you install wpasupplicant from cd1, fix the network, then add an online mirror to your sources.list, and install the rest from the net. |
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| 02:41.46 | babilen | laughs |
| 02:41.59 | newsense | niriven: make sure to grab any non-free firmware needed |
| 02:42.08 | geitenneuker | huh |
| 02:42.12 | niriven | newsense, have it taken care of.. |
| 02:42.23 | newsense | good good |
| 02:42.35 | geitenneuker | can you read myself? |
| 02:42.57 | babilen | niriven: Do you have any preferences regarding your Window Manager or Desktop Environment? |
| 02:43.05 | niriven | im still confused though :P I install without network first, reboot, use my mirror to the cd, install wpa_supplicant and a dhcp client if needed, switch to the net repos, then install whatever i need? |
| 02:43.23 | niriven | babilen, have that taken care of too, and yes, dwm :) |
| 02:44.10 | babilen | niriven: After you have installed the base system Debian will install additional packages from the CD(s) |
| 02:44.46 | niriven | babilen, right but i want to work off testing from then on, which has updates periodically. So i want to switch to a online repo after installation / network configuration |
| 02:45.24 | jrib | What's the recommended way to use python2.6 in testing? I installed it from unstable, however python-support doesn't build the python modules I install for python2.6 |
| 02:45.33 | babilen | niriven: yes, configure your network and change /etc/apt/sources.list to include: |
| 02:45.51 | babilen | niriven: ah, just come back when you have installed the base system |
| 02:45.54 | beardy | niriven: I recommend you stay on stable unless you have another reason not to. Stable has security updates. |
| 02:46.17 | niriven | babilen, :P |
| 02:46.18 | babilen | niriven: Guess you won't need the dwm Debian package ;-) |
| 02:46.39 | niriven | babilen, nah i just compile it, but then again, debian base install doesnt include a toolchain? |
| 02:46.53 | babilen | no |
| 02:47.38 | babilen | but "build-essential" is also on CD1 |
| 02:47.50 | babilen | !b-e |
| 02:47.51 | dpkg | methinks build-essential is a package designed to help you create executables and build Debian packages. If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables or can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to "aptitude install build-essential". If you don't plan to compile things, you don't need this package. Ask me about <qotd49>. |
| 02:49.20 | niriven | babilen, Ah hah, thanks. So the reason why im looking at debian is because i found something i do not like about arch. If you install a group with (p1,p2,p3,p4) etc, its as if you didnt install the group, you just installed p1-p4 yourself explicity. Does debian track groups (or meta packages) or no? |
| 02:49.22 | babilen | niriven: basically a meta-package that depends on a basic toolchain (gcc, g++, make et. al.) |
| 02:49.31 | beardy | has confused himself and others enough for today, night |
| 02:49.44 | babilen | beardy: night |
| 02:50.31 | babilen | niriven: You mean: meta-package A if installed *iff* it's dependencies are installed? |
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| 02:50.41 | niriven | babilen, so in turn, it creats a mess if you install xorg with 100 packages under that group. If you update you wont get new packages that are related to that group you installed (xorg), just to the 100 packages that were part of it and the dependency tree |
| 02:50.41 | babilen | s/it's/its |
| 02:50.43 | skai-falkorr | confused.what night at 8am |
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| 02:51.47 | niriven | babilen, heres an example. meta A contains sub 1, 2, 3. I install meta A, then a week later, meta A contains sub 1, 2, 4, 5. If i update, will debian know to remove 3, and add 5? |
| 02:51.57 | jrib | Is there a reason I should not edit debian_defaults to include python2.6 as a supported version? What happens if a module fails to build for python2.6? |
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| 02:53.49 | babilen | niriven: sorry - I can't quite parse your "arch-lingo" - There are meta-packages in Debian which are meant as an easy way to install typical sets of packages (xorg, gnome, ...) The installed packages however receive just the normal security updates. The only difference between installing the packages directly and installing the meta-package will be that packages installed as *dependencies* of a meta-package will get removed once no other package ... |
| 02:53.56 | babilen | ... depends on it. |
| 02:54.07 | babilen | niriven: which is the case if you remove the meta-package for example |
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| 02:55.03 | abrotman | jrib: in which versino of debian ? |
| 02:55.05 | babilen | niriven: so yes - if the meta-package A is updated and now declares a new dependency on C this dependency will be fulfilled ... |
| 02:55.27 | niriven | babilen, so if i update a week later and the contents of a meta package change, the update will make these changes. My question is whether or not there is a differnce in installing Meta A, or installing all of its contents manually. If there is, awesome, arch does not track group changes during updates. |
| 02:55.37 | niriven | babilen, Awesome :) |
| 02:56.02 | niriven | babilen, totally worth switching to debian for that reason. |
| 02:56.04 | jrib | abrotman: testing with some unstable packages (python2.6) |
| 02:56.06 | abrotman | jrib: the one reason is that the system expects a certain version of python .. by changing that, you could hve undesired results |
| 02:56.07 | babilen | niriven: If the meta-package also drops a dependency on "3" (in your example) and not other package depends on it it will be removed |
| 02:56.07 | jrib | abrotman: I don't want to change the default, just add 2.6 to the supported list |
| 02:56.13 | abrotman | jrib: try it .. see what happens |
| 02:56.22 | jrib | abrotman: heh |
| 02:56.28 | niriven | babilen, Right, thanks for clarifying that, sorry i was a little confusing. |
| 02:56.58 | babilen | niriven: These changes don't happen that often. You usually don't have to think about things like this - but you certainly can if you want. |
| 02:57.15 | niriven | babilen, they dont, but if they do, debian is covered. arch is not :) |
| 02:57.58 | babilen | niriven: I would still suggest to start with small meta-packages and build the system one package (or rather one service) at a time ... |
| 02:58.14 | niriven | babilen, Can you give me an example? |
| 02:58.54 | kc8pxy | I'm looking for a debian package that does a good job of cleaning windows virii from filesystems(i plan to boot it from the network). i was looking for fprot, but i don't see that in the main sources.. recommendations? |
| 02:59.54 | babilen | niriven: I know you don't use gnome - But there is the meta-package "gnome" which pulls in a *lot* of software .. and there is one called "gnome-core" which depends on a minimal set of packages even exactly the packages you *really* need to get Gnome running |
| 02:59.59 | Xenguy | kc8pxy: clamav ? |
| 03:00.20 | niriven | babilen, Ah, gotcha. |
| 03:00.33 | kc8pxy | Xenguy: up-to-date virii defs? |
| 03:00.44 | babilen | niriven: I would suggest you come back and ask about specific things. You will most certainly know which software you want and we can help you to find the best set of packages .. |
| 03:00.54 | Xenguy | kc8pxy: AFAIK |
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| 03:01.19 | niriven | babilen, babilen sounds good. Been over 5 years since ive used debian. Let me try to get it installed first. |
| 03:01.40 | babilen | niriven: Have fun! |
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| 03:03.06 | niriven | babilen, thanks for the help, im sure ill be back :) |
| 03:03.24 | babilen | niriven: you are welcome |
| 03:04.20 | albech | i have changed the following configuration files http://pastebin.com/m3ede9773 , but atftp is still launched with root=/var/lib/tftpboot |
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| 03:04.42 | babilen | !tell niriven -about ig |
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| 03:07.31 | babilen | niriven: the main difference boils down to one thing: Debian differentiates between automatically installed packages and those you installed explicitly or marked as not automatically installed |
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| 03:08.50 | niriven | babilen, Right. So do most distros. I'm just happy to hear that a meta package can be 'explicit', when what arch does is install the meta, and mark all top level packages of that meta as explicit, which is scary. |
| 03:09.23 | ice799 | Hi. I am using Debian Lenny and I created an init.d script for something and I'd like for that something to be started when the system boots. I've ran updated-rc.d something defaults and got " warning: /etc/init.d/s3fs-mount missing LSB information" |
| 03:09.35 | ice799 | when I reboot, the thing doesn't start automatically. Is it because I need to LSBize my script |
| 03:09.37 | ice799 | ? |
| 03:09.45 | ice799 | I provide a start and a stop but nothing else. |
| 03:09.54 | ice799 | Perhaps that isn't enough? |
| 03:11.06 | dvs | ice799: There is a skeleton script that you can use as a starting point, |
| 03:11.40 | ice799 | dvs: OK. I'll take a look. Do you know, by chance, if the reason my service isnt be started as boot is due to it not being LSBized? |
| 03:12.03 | ice799 | My service is a network service... can I somehow tell the system to start it last (so that the network cards have time to come up) ? |
| 03:12.17 | dvs | ice799: I guess. I'm not sure what you need to get it Linux System Base complient. |
| 03:12.32 | babilen | ice799: http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts |
| 03:12.46 | dvs | ice799: you start it last be prefixing it was S99. |
| 03:12.52 | dvs | check that |
| 03:13.06 | babilen | ice799: you use squeeze/sid? |
| 03:13.10 | dvs | ice799: you have to specify 99 as part of update-rc.d |
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| 03:14.13 | ice799 | babilen: ? not sure what squeeze/sid is |
| 03:14.41 | ice799 | babilen: im using lenny. |
| 03:16.47 | babilen | ice799: alright - squeeze will be the next version of Debian and includes a dependency based boot system. That's why i asked |
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| 03:40.00 | Cozminsky | hi everybody |
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| 03:48.14 | niriven | ok so i found out that the stable version doesnt have ext4 in the installer, so i went for the unstable weekly build, but it has no amd64 images on the server? :( |
| 03:49.01 | dvs | niriven: so... did you try testing? |
| 03:49.21 | niriven | dvs, I cant find an image for it. |
| 03:49.39 | abrotman | niriven: is this for a server ? |
| 03:49.48 | abrotman | wouldn't use ext4 anyways .. but it's not his data |
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| 03:50.09 | niriven | abrotman, no |
| 03:50.13 | TiMiDo | hey can someone help me with this http://pastebin.ca/1755580 |
| 03:50.20 | abrotman | niriven: if you want lenny and ext4 .. /msg dpkg kmuto |
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| 03:50.45 | abrotman | TiMiDo: it tells you in the error ? |
| 03:52.00 | niriven | so why doesnt amd64 have a build but x86 does on the testing site for cd images? |
| 03:52.26 | TiMiDo | abrotman: how do i fix this |
| 03:52.36 | jmarsden | niriven: The amd64 one is probably not done building yet -- those images get rebuilt weekly. Be patient :) |
| 03:52.44 | abrotman | TiMiDo: it tells you in the error |
| 03:52.53 | TiMiDo | on the file that tells me |
| 03:52.53 | abrotman | niriven: look for the netinst .. don't use a CD/DVD full ISO |
| 03:52.57 | TiMiDo | it's empy |
| 03:53.00 | TiMiDo | *empty |
| 03:53.14 | abrotman | niriven: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 03:53.21 | abrotman | TiMiDo: i think you're just supposed to create the file |
| 03:53.22 | niriven | abrotman, already discussed that here, i need a full cd so i can have wpa_supplicant after i install since i dont have a wire. |
| 03:53.38 | abrotman | niriven: you don't need it to do the install .. |
| 03:54.01 | niriven | abrotman, then how do i install wpasupplicant after the install if i dont have the media? |
| 03:54.06 | abrotman | usb key ? |
| 03:54.09 | abrotman | erm .. drive |
| 03:54.27 | niriven | abrotman, but if the media already has it... |
| 03:54.50 | abrotman | but it doesn't ? |
| 03:55.13 | niriven | abrotman, it does, which is why im looking for a weekly build of unstable for amd64 :) |
| 03:55.25 | abrotman | niriven: they don't exist |
| 03:55.50 | abrotman | niriven: so you can use the netinst .. and then put the package you want on a usb drive and install it from that |
| 03:56.25 | babilen | niriven: don't use unstable |
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| 03:57.59 | niriven | babilen, i understand that i might run into problems with stable, i accept that :) |
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| 04:01.22 | TiMiDo | abrotman: now i'm getting this error http://pastebin.ca/1755595 |
| 04:02.22 | babilen | !tell niriven -about sid |
| 04:02.37 | abrotman | TiMiDo: dpkg --configure -a |
| 04:03.13 | TiMiDo | same error |
| 04:03.34 | ruben23 | filepeter..? |
| 04:04.41 | abrotman | TiMiDo: why isn't hal starting ? |
| 04:04.43 | abrotman | ruben23: stop doing that |
| 04:04.49 | TiMiDo | dont know abrotman |
| 04:05.01 | abrotman | TiMiDo: this is what you're supposed to find out |
| 04:05.11 | TiMiDo | how> |
| 04:05.30 | ruben23 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:05.51 | abrotman | ruben23: we went through this before .. learn how to use IRC |
| 04:07.42 | TiMiDo | abrotman: how can i fixed it dude? |
| 04:08.16 | abrotman | TiMiDo: figure out why hal isn't starting .. |
| 04:08.28 | abrotman | TiMiDo: try to start it manually .. look in the logs |
| 04:08.29 | TiMiDo | http://pastebin.ca/1755604 |
| 04:08.32 | TiMiDo | last error |
| 04:09.41 | abrotman | TiMiDo: that's not useful .. |
| 04:10.15 | TiMiDo | damn |
| 04:10.19 | TiMiDo | i need some help with this |
| 04:11.00 | abrotman | TiMiDo: so start hal .. do you know how to do that ? |
| 04:11.49 | TiMiDo | yeah i did start it up |
| 04:11.58 | TiMiDo | with /etc/init.d/hal start; |
| 04:11.59 | abrotman | and is there an error ? |
| 04:12.06 | TiMiDo | 0 errors |
| 04:12.23 | abrotman | TiMiDo: so .. 'dpkg --configure -a' ? |
| 04:12.42 | TiMiDo | same error |
| 04:13.25 | ruben23 | hi i have a script like this-->http://pastebin.com/m24172dee but when i run it--> ./recordbk.sh i get the error-->./recordbk.sh: 2: mv: Argument list too long |
| 04:13.47 | abrotman | ruben23: uname -a |
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| 04:14.52 | abrotman | TiMiDo: try stopping hal first |
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| 04:20.19 | TiMiDo | done |
| 04:20.21 | TiMiDo | about |
| 04:20.21 | TiMiDo | time |
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| 04:21.16 | abrotman | TiMiDo: all fixed up ? |
| 04:21.39 | TiMiDo | yes |
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| 04:26.53 | Zarion | anyone know how to boot Debian when the LVM group just mysteriously disapeared? |
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| 04:32.19 | phlux | Do any of you use ISPConfig? |
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| 04:45.19 | PiklesOnFire | !ask |
| 04:45.19 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 04:50.45 | paissad | hi all, is there a way to centralize all virtual users, those of ftp, svn so that i don't have to create them twice for each protocol |
| 04:51.21 | paissad | i may have some users that just will exist for svn, other for just ftp, and some for both |
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| 04:53.11 | PiklesOnFire | paissad: not that i'm aware of, but possibly using some sort of database |
| 04:53.48 | paissad | PiklesOnFire, do you know openldap,what exactly is it for ? |
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| 04:54.00 | paissad | i expected it to suit my needs |
| 04:54.33 | linucks | hey, I've uninstalled a package, but before hand deleted the /etc/init.d/ file for that package, and upon re-installing the init file is not coming back, what can I do? |
| 04:54.54 | abrotman | !tell linucks about confmiss |
| 04:56.18 | linucks | ty |
| 04:56.25 | PiklesOnFire | paissad: honestly, i've never used it, but from a quick google search it MAY be what you're looking for |
| 04:57.00 | paissad | ok |
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| 04:57.19 | PiklesOnFire | paissad: what ftp server are you using? |
| 04:57.23 | PiklesOnFire | and also, ftp server |
| 04:57.26 | paissad | vsftpd |
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| 04:58.55 | jarray52 | How do I install the Broadcom BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN drivers in Debian? |
| 04:59.28 | abrotman | !tell jarray52 about b43 |
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| 05:02.11 | PiklesOnFire | paissad: there are guides for getting that server to auth using ldap, so i'd assume openldap would work as well |
| 05:02.32 | paissad | PiklesOnFire, yes |
| 05:03.20 | jarray52 | abrotman: Thanks. |
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| 05:05.25 | newsense | !b43 |
| 05:05.26 | dpkg | [b43] the driver for modern Broadcom 802.11g wireless chipsets, included in Linux since 2.6.24. Firmware is required, ask me about <b43-fwcutter>. USB devices not supported (for BCM4320, see <rndis_wlan>). 802.11b-only devices and BCM4306 rev 2 are instead supported by the <b43legacy> driver. BCM4321/4322 (802.11n) not supported, ask about <wl>. See also <bcm4312>. http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx #bcm-users on irc.freenode.net. |
| 05:05.43 | abrotman | newsense: /msg dpkg b43 |
| 05:06.09 | newsense | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:15.26 | ArkoldThos | heya, I just installed Debian Squeeze, but i dont know where Xorg.conf is :> it is not anymore at /etc/X11 |
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| 05:17.56 | PiklesOnFire | ArkoldThos: xorg.conf isn't used any more, if you need one, you will need to create one yourself. |
| 05:18.29 | ArkoldThos | okay, thanks :) |
| 05:20.27 | PiklesOnFire | np |
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| 05:35.14 | kingsley | Is there a utility that compares images in two directories side by side? |
| 05:39.47 | albech | kingsley, compare what filename or file content? |
| 05:39.55 | kingsley | albech: content |
| 05:40.42 | albech | kingsley, so both images are displayed next to each other and let you review or should it do some bit comparing? |
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| 05:41.38 | kingsley | albech: Yes, that's exactly right. |
| 05:42.10 | abrotman | dpkg: info perceptualdiff |
| 05:42.18 | albech | kingsley, that was a 2-way question ;) |
| 05:42.48 | dpkg | perceptualdiff: (perceptual image comparison tool), section utils, is optional. Version: 1.0.1-1.3 (sid), Packaged size: 15 kB, Installed size: 80 kB |
| 05:43.21 | albech | kingsley, i have seen one where you could display 2 different folders next to each other and when you clicked on one of them it would perform a task.. like execute a script or an application |
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| 05:43.47 | albech | but you manually had to interact with it.. |
| 05:43.57 | albech | let me see if i can find it |
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| 06:14.11 | darkfuneral | is it possible to turn off the side panel on xpdf's startup? |
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| 06:16.48 | Cozminsky | xpdf doesn't have a side panel for me |
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| 06:22.37 | jarray52 | How can the nvidia free driver (nv) be installed on Debian? |
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| 06:26.25 | Cozminsky | apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nv |
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| 06:29.45 | jarray52 | Cozminsky: Thanks |
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| 06:32.11 | Fazer2 | I've installed Debian netinstall on virtualbox, then updated it to Squeeze, then installed kdebase |
| 06:32.27 | Fazer2 | and as soon as I login into kde, it freezes |
| 06:32.36 | Fazer2 | *log into |
| 06:32.51 | Cozminsky | what about X without kde? |
| 06:33.15 | Fazer2 | Cozminsky: with startx? |
| 06:35.57 | Cozminsky | you could use startx, but it will invoke your default window manager/system |
| 06:36.01 | Cozminsky | try just X |
| 06:36.58 | Cozminsky | i.e /usr/bin/X |
| 06:38.08 | Fazer2 | it gives me black screen |
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| 06:38.50 | Cozminsky | you still have gdm/kdm/xdm running? |
| 06:39.33 | Fazer2 | kdm launched, I went to tty1, /etc/init.d/kdm stop and X |
| 06:39.36 | Cozminsky | if so you might want to try X :1 |
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| 06:41.39 | Fazer2 | um, how can I stop X from running on different runlevel? |
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| 06:43.05 | Cozminsky | it just runs the init script, so rm /etc/rc${runlevel}.d/S99(gdm|kdm|xdm) |
| 06:44.30 | Fazer2 | now I can see an error from X - failed to load vboxvideo (module does not exist) |
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| 06:45.12 | jmarsden | Fazer2: You upgraded to squeeze and forgot to reinstall the virtualbox Guest Additions afterwards? |
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| 06:45.40 | Fazer2 | jmarsden: I never installed it on debian in the first place ;-) |
| 06:46.00 | \3TATUK | What provides the GNOME Panel icon for compiz? |
| 06:46.01 | Cozminsky | then you should probably use the vesa driver, or something like that |
| 06:46.27 | Fazer2 | Cozminsky: but I believe I still can install them |
| 06:46.39 | Cozminsky | Fazer2, aye |
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| 06:49.46 | Fazer2 | ok, how is bzip2 utility named? |
| 06:50.29 | jmarsden | Fazer2: bzip2 :) |
| 06:50.29 | Fazer2 | I guess bzip2 |
| 06:50.50 | jmarsden | wondered for a moment if that was a trick question... |
| 06:51.41 | \3TATUK | ((Oh: fusion-icon)) |
| 06:52.00 | Fazer2 | hehe |
| 06:52.44 | Fazer2 | I guess I have to install make too |
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| 06:55.12 | Fazer2 | hm, vbox gives me an error "Makefile - unable to find the sources of your current Linux kernel" |
| 06:55.20 | JyZyXEL | Usage: encfs [options] rootDir mountPoint [-- [FUSE Mount Options]] |
| 06:55.21 | JyZyXEL | encfs .crypt crypt/ user=backup |
| 06:55.26 | JyZyXEL | is that how it should work? |
| 06:55.44 | Cozminsky | you'll need to install the linux-headers package for your kernel |
| 06:57.05 | JyZyXEL | i don't understand how the hell this is supposed to work |
| 06:57.54 | jmarsden | JyZyXEL: man encfs may help? |
| 06:58.17 | Fazer2 | JyZyXEL: crypt/ <- is that a proper path? |
| 06:58.31 | JyZyXEL | no its foobar |
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| 06:58.37 | JyZyXEL | the problem is in the damn mount options |
| 06:58.48 | JyZyXEL | i don't even know if user= is the correct way |
| 06:59.18 | Fazer2 | JyZyXEL: I think it should be --user=foo |
| 06:59.50 | Cozminsky | if it's a wrapper around mount then I don't think so |
| 07:01.37 | JyZyXEL | i need to damn thing mounted in a way that a user of my choosing can access it |
| 07:01.56 | JyZyXEL | is that done by chmodding the mount point before mounting |
| 07:02.02 | JyZyXEL | or chmodding the mount point after mounting |
| 07:02.06 | Cozminsky | JyZyXEL, user option for mount just lets any user mount |
| 07:02.14 | JyZyXEL | or by options when mounting |
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| 07:04.12 | Cozminsky | JyZyXEL, encfs -H gives you the fuse options |
| 07:04.42 | JyZyXEL | so the access control is done in mount options? |
| 07:04.53 | Cozminsky | it would appear so |
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| 07:05.01 | JyZyXEL | no is it like that or is it not? |
| 07:05.09 | JyZyXEL | what about chmod of the mount point |
| 07:05.42 | SNow | hi, I have fasttrack promise hardware raid device, and debian does not see it, i make a mirror 2x80gb and in debian install i must choose ide1 or ide2, no raid |
| 07:07.03 | Cozminsky | you wanted for the filesystem to be owned by that user? or you want that user to be able to mount the filesystem? |
| 07:07.21 | Fazer2 | now I can move the cursor, but kde still freezes, I can't click anything |
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| 07:07.28 | JyZyXEL | i want it to be owned by the user |
| 07:09.07 | Cozminsky | encfs .crypt /path/to/mountpoint -- -o uid=backup would be my guess |
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| 07:10.03 | JyZyXEL | and the mount point needs to be owned by the user doing the mounting? |
| 07:10.30 | Cozminsky | I don't think so, but it can't hurt |
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| 07:16.46 | SNow | have some serious problems with fastrak 100 and mirror |
| 07:16.49 | SNow | any ideas how to solve that? |
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| 07:22.12 | JyZyXEL | d????????? ? ? ? ? ? crypt |
| 07:22.14 | JyZyXEL | nice chmod |
| 07:22.43 | TiMiDo | ?? |
| 07:22.44 | TiMiDo | wth |
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| 07:30.56 | mobidev | hi to all |
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| 07:32.19 | \3TATUK | hi |
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| 07:40.52 | TiMiDo | hey |
| 07:40.54 | TiMiDo | There was an error while executing the application Click Details For more information |
| 07:41.02 | TiMiDo | how come I'm getting this error with Java? |
| 07:41.42 | Cozminsky | because the java code had some kind of runtime error and was giving you a stack trace? |
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| 07:47.50 | khaije|amalt | i'm looking for a database schema browser... any favorites among the group? |
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| 07:51.10 | phlux | khaije|amalt: like phpmyadmin? |
| 07:52.37 | jmarsden | khaije|amalt: schemaspy and schemaspygui are worth a look. Not packaged for Debian AFAIK though. |
| 07:52.52 | khaije|amalt | phlux: i guess so, i really need something that will identify the sources for foreign keys and portentially show me a graph of relations |
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| 07:53.10 | khaije|amalt | this is for stuff i'll be supporting but didn't setup |
| 07:53.39 | khaije|amalt | jmarsden: is schemaspy gpl ? |
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| 07:58.54 | jmarsden | khaije|amalt: LGPL. Do you really care about the difference? :) |
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| 07:59.48 | jmarsden | khaije|amalt: http://schemaspy.sourceforge.net/ |
| 07:59.58 | khaije|amalt | jmarsden: nope as long as it passes the RMS test |
| 08:00.26 | khaije|amalt | thanks mate |
| 08:02.40 | khaije|amalt | now that... is a thing of beauty |
| 08:03.20 | jmarsden | khaije|amalt: You're welcome. |
| 08:03.20 | cheako | Does any one know how to setup grub stage 1.5 on gpt? I'm using the gdisk tool. |
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| 08:04.45 | flaccid | i know this is random, but anyone got knowledge on syslog-ng and logging both facilities and files? i can't work out how to do both in the one config |
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| 08:10.33 | medivh_ | Hi! Despite I have chosen TRQ keyboard during installation (stable release), after installing gnome meta-package, gdm interface insists on using US keyboard layout. Am I missing something? How can I fix it? |
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| 08:26.13 | vy | medivh_: Did you check this out? http://www.debianhelp.org/node/14064 |
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| 08:30.44 | marckie | hi. what can i do to get rid of these messages? |
| 08:30.45 | marckie | http://www.pastebin.ca/1755758 |
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| 08:31.31 | flaccid | marckie: take out load of floppy kernel module |
| 08:32.49 | marckie | flaccid, been struggling to find out how to do that. i inserted "alias floppy off" to /etc/modules.conf and ran depmod -a. no dice |
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| 08:34.16 | flaccid | hmm try blacklist floppy |
| 08:34.20 | flaccid | http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-modules.html |
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| 08:37.13 | marckie | done, looks like it worked this time |
| 08:37.16 | marckie | thank you |
| 08:37.30 | marckie | oops, was too early to type |
| 08:37.39 | marckie | does the change need a reboot? |
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| 08:39.08 | flaccid | marckie: thats for boot time yes |
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| 08:39.41 | marckie | i did another depmod -a, looks like its reading the file now, but |
| 08:39.56 | marckie | WARNING: /etc/modprobe.d/black line 1: ignoring bad line starting with 'blacklist' |
| 08:40.21 | marckie | cat /etc/modprobe.d/black: blacklist floppy |
| 08:40.34 | medivh_ | vy, thanks it worked |
| 08:40.43 | flaccid | j,, |
| 08:40.46 | flaccid | hmm i mean |
| 08:41.03 | flaccid | bad line |
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| 08:41.29 | ethanol | I don't think you need to add the word blacklist inside the black file |
| 08:41.32 | ethanol | isn't it implied? |
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| 08:42.33 | ethanol | or did you create that file? |
| 08:42.41 | marckie | i just created the file |
| 08:42.58 | ethanol | lenny? |
| 08:43.02 | marckie | http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-modules.html says any random name can be used |
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| 08:43.49 | marckie | sarge |
| 08:44.22 | ethanol | sarge? |
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| 08:46.12 | marckie | yes |
| 08:46.14 | marckie | 3.1 |
| 08:46.15 | flaccid | ah yeah you just put the list of blacklisted mods in |
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| 08:47.58 | ethanol | no it should work the way he did it according to this also; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modprobe |
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| 08:48.10 | ethanol | marckie: but you can try the alternative they mention |
| 08:48.24 | ethanol | the "stronger, second method" |
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| 08:49.24 | marckie | what second method? |
| 08:49.59 | marckie | ah, wiki |
| 08:50.02 | ethanol | yes |
| 08:51.07 | marckie | tried now, lets see what happens |
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| 08:53.46 | marckie | yeah |
| 08:53.49 | marckie | win |
| 08:53.55 | flaccid | w00t |
| 08:53.56 | ethanol | :) |
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| 08:54.14 | flaccid | now, if someone could help me with syslog-ng hehe |
| 08:54.47 | ethanol | what about it? |
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| 08:55.18 | marckie | before that, thanks flaccid and ethanol |
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| 08:56.07 | ethanol | you're welcome |
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| 08:56.43 | flaccid | ethanol: i'm trying to work out how to do both files and log facilities |
| 08:56.58 | flaccid | i'm trying to work with an existing conf and can't get a standalone file to go through it |
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| 08:57.33 | ethanol | is there no syslog-ng channel? |
| 08:57.44 | ethanol | I'm afraid I have never used this package :< |
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| 08:58.11 | Posterdati | hi |
| 08:58.14 | rvsjoen | can you elaborate on that ? |
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| 08:58.24 | flaccid | ethanol: yeah hasn't been much help yet |
| 08:58.41 | Posterdati | please I got problem adding a new printer on cups: hal device could not access it... |
| 08:58.46 | flaccid | im trying to use a source which is a file and simply send it to my remote syslog server |
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| 08:59.49 | MASARUwota | http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/pornview |
| 08:59.50 | MASARUwota | i lol'd |
| 08:59.57 | rvsjoen | flaccid: and how did you configure that |
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| 09:00.23 | Posterdati | Unable to open device "hal:///org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_4a9_108d_32CA14_if0_printer_noserial": Permission denied |
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| 09:01.15 | flaccid | rvsjoen: well i create a source directive pointing to the file like source s_mysqlbackup { file("/var/log/mysql_database_cron.log" follow_freq(1) flags(no-parse)); }; and then a log entry |
| 09:01.23 | flaccid | not matter what i do i can't get it to work even though it validates |
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| 09:02.41 | ethanol | define "can't get it to work" |
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| 09:02.54 | ethanol | Posterdati: the error is quite clear, permission denied. |
| 09:03.11 | Posterdati | ethanol: but it worked time ago |
| 09:03.11 | flaccid | ethanol: nothing comes up on the remote syslog server. i want to confirm what is required to use plain files with syslog-ng |
| 09:03.33 | rvsjoen | did you try to run syslog-ng in debug mode ? |
| 09:03.34 | ethanol | flaccid: is it sending though? doesn't the client have a log? debug options? |
| 09:03.39 | flaccid | rvsjoen: no |
| 09:03.47 | flaccid | i don't know how to debug/log syslog-ng itself |
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| 09:04.08 | rvsjoen | run it with -d |
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| 09:04.50 | flaccid | ok |
| 09:06.13 | flaccid | rvsjoen: where does it debug/log out to then? |
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| 09:08.22 | flaccid | so root 8448 74.5 0.0 18864 784 ? Rs 09:08 0:04 syslog-ng -d -v -p /var/run/syslog-ng.pid |
| 09:08.31 | flaccid | it certainly failed to not daemonise |
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| 09:09.12 | Posterdati | solved |
| 09:09.59 | ethanol | Posterdati: privileges issue? |
| 09:11.32 | ethanol | flaccid: are you sure about that? odd. both -v and -p should prevent it from becoming a daemon. either should suffice. there's no point to specifying both. -v is much like -d, except less information |
| 09:11.50 | ethanol | flaccid: try using just -d (the whole -p line is also not needed, as you're using the default path) |
| 09:11.52 | flaccid | ethanol: well i just pasted the entry from ps .. |
| 09:12.05 | ethanol | how are you starting it? |
| 09:12.27 | flaccid | same thing |
| 09:12.29 | flaccid | shell |
| 09:12.38 | ethanol | no |
| 09:12.42 | ethanol | how are you starting it |
| 09:12.46 | flaccid | syslog-ng -d |
| 09:12.59 | flaccid | a command in shell |
| 09:13.10 | ethanol | try adding -F |
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| 09:13.16 | AlexC_ | morning |
| 09:13.25 | AlexC_ | using getopts, is it possible to make an flag have an optional argument? For example, sometimes I'd want 'foo -b' or 'foo -b bar.txt' |
| 09:13.52 | flaccid | ethanol: ok that just sits there |
| 09:13.54 | ethanol | AlexC_: you might want to try #bash perhaps |
| 09:14.08 | flaccid | and can't get out of it |
| 09:14.24 | ethanol | flaccid: well yes, it should stay in the foreground now |
| 09:14.33 | flaccid | it doesn't output anything |
| 09:14.37 | flaccid | and i can't kill it |
| 09:14.42 | ethanol | then it is safe to assume it does nothing |
| 09:14.54 | ethanol | everything can be killed |
| 09:15.03 | ethanol | if all normal means fail, just fire up a second terminal |
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| 09:17.02 | ethanol | flaccid: if you use both -p and -v, it tries to debug in a yacc parser |
| 09:17.12 | flaccid | oh ok |
| 09:17.36 | flaccid | if i showed you the current config, could you point me what directives i would need just to add a log file ? |
| 09:18.03 | ethanol | I can't |
| 09:18.12 | ethanol | but I found this example config with google; http://www.campin.net/syslog-ng.conf |
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| 09:19.24 | flaccid | thats not going to help |
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| 09:19.33 | ethanol | then you have learning issues. |
| 09:19.33 | TiMiDo | how can i give on a folder from /var/www the right privileges to write and read? |
| 09:19.49 | ethanol | the file is quite extensive and commented. I'm sure you can put it to good use. |
| 09:20.02 | TiMiDo | how can i give on a folder from /var/www the right privileges to write and read? |
| 09:20.07 | ethanol | TiMiDo: no need to ask twice |
| 09:20.12 | TiMiDo | lol |
| 09:20.22 | TiMiDo | how do you do it chmod what number? |
| 09:20.25 | ethanol | TiMiDo: why is that funny? |
| 09:20.35 | flaccid | ethanol: not at all. i learnt it. it simply doesn't work. and what you referenced is not the same configuration. it doesn't do what i am trying to do i.e. log a standalone file |
| 09:20.36 | ethanol | TiMiDo: well that depends, for who? |
| 09:20.43 | flaccid | you have reading issues :) |
| 09:21.03 | ethanol | flaccid: it logs dozens of files. I'm sure you can cut that configuration down to one though. |
| 09:21.39 | flaccid | ethanol: err thats not a problem. that would be great if i only needed to log a file and not a file + all the facilities |
| 09:21.52 | flaccid | i can do that no problem. now go add the facilities. |
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| 09:22.22 | ethanol | you'll have to define "all the facilities" first. |
| 09:22.28 | flaccid | thats done |
| 09:22.31 | ethanol | cause I don't know what you are talking about. |
| 09:22.42 | flaccid | you see they send to the same server. you cannot have a destination with the same udp remote server. |
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| 09:22.57 | flaccid | no example on the internet does both that i can find |
| 09:23.18 | ethanol | how is this then? |
| 09:23.19 | ethanol | http://www.campin.net/syslog-ng/debian-stock-syslog-ng.conf |
| 09:24.04 | flaccid | ethanol: as you can see, that defines one source being /dev/log and /proc/kmsg |
| 09:24.09 | flaccid | it does not define an additional file source |
| 09:24.24 | flaccid | do you understand? |
| 09:24.29 | ethanol | no |
| 09:24.30 | ethanol | I do not |
| 09:24.51 | flaccid | under sources, source s_all { |
| 09:24.56 | flaccid | unix-stream("/dev/log"); |
| 09:25.02 | flaccid | file("/proc/kmsg" log_prefix("kernel: ")); |
| 09:25.42 | ethanol | so why can't you add an additional file source? |
| 09:25.56 | ethanol | how hard can it be to add a second file statement? |
| 09:26.30 | flaccid | it would require a prefix and then filter through. the file is arbitrary |
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| 09:26.51 | ethanol | http://www.campin.net/syslog-ng/expanded-syslog-ng.conf |
| 09:26.57 | ethanol | can't get more detailed than that I imagine |
| 09:27.21 | ethanol | if you can't figure it out now, then I think your journey ends here. I have my own work to attend to. sorry |
| 09:27.55 | flaccid | detail doesn't show you the implementation required |
| 09:28.20 | ethanol | we can't spoonfeed you. |
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| 09:28.40 | flaccid | you mean, you couldn't do it. because you don't have the knowledge |
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| 09:29.26 | ethanol | I bet if I set my mind to the task at hand, I could figure it out in less than a few hours. :) |
| 09:29.31 | ethanol | you don't seem to be trying very much. |
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| 09:29.49 | flaccid | heh at least you admit it |
| 09:30.02 | flaccid | everythign you showed me did not provide anything i did not already know |
| 09:30.13 | flaccid | and yet you claim i am not trying. i have more knowledge than you on the subject. |
| 09:30.26 | enraged | that is rude |
| 09:31.00 | flaccid | ethanol has been rude all along. i'm just being frank |
| 09:31.06 | ethanol | fair enough. |
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| 09:51.50 | bimbo | hello, is it possible to remove a package using aptitude without removing the dependencies it installed? |
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| 09:52.41 | themill | !aptitude-fu |
| 09:52.41 | dpkg | To list uninstalled recommended or suggested packages: aptitude search '~RBsuggests:~i!~i'; upgradeable packages: aptitude search '~U'; manually installed packages: aptitude search '~i!~M'; install without recommends but not uninstalling other recommends: aptitude install -R -o Aptitude::Keep-Recommends=true See also <aptitude why>. |
| 09:53.20 | themill | bimbo: I'd try "aptitude -o Aptitude::Keep-Recommends=true remove frobinator" |
| 09:54.09 | themill | bimbo: but you might want to "/msg dpkg unmarkauto" to see how to do prevent aptitude wanting to remove them the next time you run it |
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| 09:54.43 | bimbo | themill: thank you, I'm msg dpkg then |
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| 09:57.58 | hendry | what's the command to find out what repo a package came from? not where google-chrome-unstable came from :) |
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| 10:02.21 | themill | !which repo |
| 10:02.21 | dpkg | To see what repository a package may have come from, try http://svn.noreply.org/svn/weaselutils/trunk/apt-listrepository , or use dpkg -l | awk '/^.i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-cache policy | awk '/^[a-z0-9\-]+:/ {pkg=$1}; /\*\*\*/ {OFS="\t"; ver=$2; getline; print pkg,ver,$2,$3}', or ask me about <obsolete>, or http://people.debian.org/~dannf/apt-inventory |
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| 10:03.22 | riot | Damn..!! |
| 10:03.35 | riot | my box just managed to kill its root-fs upon reboot.. |
| 10:03.58 | riot | can i fix that easily? I had it split up in /var /home and /usr |
| 10:05.40 | riot | mhmmh, and no recent backups to be found :/ this just made my day.. |
| 10:07.32 | lord_rob | Hi ! Isn't there a chan for openoffice.org in debian anymore ? |
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| 10:09.10 | rvsjoen | what ? |
| 10:09.21 | TiMiDo | not |
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| 10:10.20 | eagles0513875 | hey guys i need some help with xen guest os which is debian host is debian |
| 10:10.49 | eagles0513875 | when starting the debian guest i end up booting and getting down to a busybox prompt and doesnt boot right :( it says that it cant find a /sbin/init how do i remedy this issue |
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| 10:14.58 | eagles0513875 | hey SportChick |
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| 10:22.46 | RichiH | it's been ages since i last had to copy over a kernel config into a fresh untarred source tree... is make oldconfig still the way to go? |
| 10:24.47 | mina86 | yes, besides you can do nothing at all and when you run make bzImage oldconfig will be run automatically IIRC |
| 10:26.26 | RichiH | mina86: bzImage is not state of the art, either |
| 10:26.35 | RichiH | that's what got me to question oldconfig in the first place |
| 10:26.59 | mina86 | uh? so how do you build image? |
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| 10:43.37 | rvsjoen | pif: hdparm -I /dev/sdX |
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| 10:44.30 | pif | ok |
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| 10:48.47 | Argafal | nsadmin: let me know if you find out... |
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| 10:49.12 | rvsjoen | pat|ng: if its the netinstall cd you're referring to I'm not sure if it even has a desktop environment |
| 10:49.22 | rvsjoen | you choose it during install and its downloaded |
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| 10:58.07 | ribasushi | what's the correct way to describe a .deb dependency on diff (which got renamed to diffutils recently) |
| 10:58.28 | ranix | why does nvidia-glx in Squeeze conflict with xserver-xorg-core |
| 10:58.38 | ranix | is it because you guys hate me |
| 10:58.42 | ranix | is that the reason |
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| 10:59.06 | ribasushi | ranix: I doubt it conflicts, it probably wants a newer one |
| 10:59.24 | ranix | ribasushi: no I am serious |
| 10:59.28 | ranix | it actually CONFLICTS |
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| 11:00.23 | ktwilight[m] | summons dpkg |
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| 11:01.02 | themill | ranix: you probably want the package from sid anyway; /msg dpkg nvidia squeeze |
| 11:01.05 | ribasushi | ranix: I don't see a conflic listed |
| 11:01.07 | ribasushi | http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/nvidia-glx |
| 11:01.48 | themill | p.d.o doesn't list conflicts anyway |
| 11:02.06 | ranix | themill: that one doesn't work |
| 11:02.10 | ranix | gives a black screen |
| 11:02.18 | ranix | only version 173 works for my card for some reason |
| 11:02.37 | themill | *shrug* the 173 version doesn't work with the kernel in squeeze |
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| 11:02.59 | ranix | yeah it's pretty fucked up |
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| 11:03.04 | ranix | jacked up even |
| 11:03.09 | themill | ranix: I hope you told nvidia that |
| 11:03.20 | ranix | I did actually |
| 11:03.35 | themill | !pony ranix |
| 11:03.35 | dpkg | gives ranix a pony |
| 11:03.36 | ranix | I told them their linux drivers are piles of shit |
| 11:03.43 | ranix | they said "I don't write the linux drivers" |
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| 11:03.56 | ranix | and I said "yeah nobody really does" |
| 11:05.02 | karme | hi - i want to setup an personal autobuilder, but can't get wanna-build/buildd to work (quite frustrated at the moment argh) - sbuild is fine - quinn-diff looks ok too, but is there an alternative to wanna-build/buildd? |
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| 11:06.45 | karme | (this whole thing already took me much more time than expected) |
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| 11:14.18 | ribasushi | what is the significance of order in /etc/apt/conf.d |
| 11:14.23 | ribasushi | last wins or first wins? |
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| 11:20.25 | jelly | ribasushi: if all other things are equal (same version, pinning), first repo is used |
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| 11:21.07 | ribasushi | jelly: huh? |
| 11:21.16 | ribasushi | I was asking about the individual conf-bit files |
| 11:21.18 | caraconan | Hi. There's a way to write text on a .pdf file on linux? The export solution with openoffice is too poor quality for me... |
| 11:21.21 | ribasushi | what is the order of their assembly |
| 11:21.42 | rittyan | can I pass some command line arguments to my hook for debuild? or I better rely onto environment variables or other means of configuration |
| 11:21.55 | ribasushi | caraconan: the cups-pdf printer |
| 11:22.01 | ribasushi | caraconan: works like a champ |
| 11:22.06 | jelly | ribasushi: oh, conf.d. Nevermind me then, I read "sources.list.d". |
| 11:22.15 | themill | caraconan: in what way is OOo export too poor quality? |
| 11:23.21 | caraconan | <themill> with default settings. Let me play a bit with it... |
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| 11:24.05 | caraconan | Ok, solved with that. Thanks a lot |
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| 11:27.32 | themill | ribasushi: "man apt.conf" in squeeze/sid says that the conf.d/* are loaded in lexical order, then the main config file and then the cmdline -o options are applied. (i.e. last specified wins) |
| 11:28.07 | ribasushi | themill: so ideally if I want my stuff to win I should name it 99* then |
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| 11:28.09 | ribasushi | will do |
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| 11:28.55 | themill | ribasushi: apt's config isn't normally so complex that you'd be specifying contradictory options at the same time though |
| 11:29.22 | ribasushi | themill: I want to protect myself from auto-installed files by apt itself |
| 11:29.33 | ribasushi | i.e. ou do an upgrade - boom, shit breaks |
| 11:29.38 | themill | then just use apt.conf |
| 11:29.39 | ribasushi | I already got bitten once by udev |
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| 11:33.02 | JohannesSM64 | how do i use bitlbee in debian? it seemed to autostart, but /connect localhost doesn't work |
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| 11:34.14 | JohannesSM64 | according to htop, this is running: /usr/sbin/bitlbee -p 6668 -P /var/run/bitlbee.pid -F |
| 11:34.34 | ambuli__ | how to get list of files in the package which is not installed yet ?? |
| 11:34.38 | ambuli__ | i mean from repo. |
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| 11:36.39 | jmarsden | ambuli__: apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update # Then for each package you want to list, do apt-file list PACKAGE |
| 11:37.29 | ambuli__ | jmarsden, i dont want it to get installed unless i check the list of files. is that possible? |
| 11:37.48 | jmarsden | Yes. apt-file does not install packages, just a database of info about packages. |
| 11:38.23 | themill | ambuli__: there's also packages.debian.org/packagename, but apt-file is usually easier and faster |
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| 11:42.33 | ambuli__ | themill, jmarsden thanks. i dont understand this from apt-file man page : update Resynchronize the package contents from their sources. The lists of the contents of packages are fetched from the location(s) specified in /etc/apt/sources.list. |
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| 11:43.16 | jmarsden | ambuli__: It grabs updated info about the packages from the repos, so you can search that info. It does not download the packages themselves. |
| 11:43.26 | jmarsden | ambuli__: Try it, you will like it :) |
| 11:43.51 | themill | ambuli__: read it as "downloads the database necessary for all this magic to work" |
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| 11:45.16 | ambuli__ | themill, interesting. But do we need to run any command to download the necessary database before we use list command ? |
| 11:45.46 | themill | ambuli__: take a guess.... (and read what jmarsden told you about apt-file to begin with) |
| 11:46.27 | ambuli__ | apt-file update. :). i didnt notice that. |
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| 11:49.33 | visik7 | hi |
| 11:49.46 | visik7 | anyone knows how to convert qmail Maildir to courier maildir ? |
| 11:51.10 | visik7 | qmail's mail filename is: 1263022376.30606.mail,S=37329:2, while courier is 1263815339.V801Ic055M733428.mx01 (where mx01 is the machine hostname) |
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| 12:05.55 | superlinux | hi all |
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| 12:08.50 | petemc | visik7: have you confirmed that just copying them, or pointing courier to the existing maildirs, doesnt work? |
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| 12:10.15 | superlinux | I have in my repos sources the 1st debian dvd and also the mirror url defined. now, I have some files in my DVD has sum mismatch. anyway, how can I force apt-get to download a package from that mirror? I dont want it to fetch in the DVD, while keeping the dvd source repos entry defined. |
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| 12:12.48 | jelly | visik7: in theory, the file name should not be important for Maildir. Much. |
| 12:13.27 | visik7 | so why if I move files from a maildir qmail server to a courier mail server an imap client can't see old e-mails ? |
| 12:13.51 | petemc | visik7: courier is picky about where it finds mail, is it in the right place |
| 12:13.59 | jelly | visik7: are ownerships and permissions correct? |
| 12:14.00 | petemc | fwiw, dovecot is _much_ more flexible |
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| 12:30.29 | fatalerrors | i've recently make an update of my debian sid |
| 12:30.42 | fatalerrors | there was nfs-common in it |
| 12:31.11 | fatalerrors | since, i can't exec any program on my nfs mount |
| 12:31.27 | fatalerrors | don't know how to solve this |
| 12:32.09 | fatalerrors | (note that exec return permission denied either as normal user and root) |
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| 12:32.19 | fatalerrors | any idea? |
| 12:33.35 | oggei | check with mount(1) if there is noexec |
| 12:34.03 | fatalerrors | oggei: already checked and there's not |
| 12:34.30 | fatalerrors | here you have everything: 192.168.0.4:/share on /share type nfs (rw,user=root,nosuid,nodev,noatime,hard,intr,nolock,addr=192.168.0.4) |
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| 12:34.46 | paseante | what is the recommended way to debug using -dbg packages? |
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| 12:38.26 | oggei | fatalerror: dunno, try to add an explicit "exec" option |
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| 12:41.01 | fatalerrors | oggei: that's working... thanks! |
| 12:41.30 | oggei | dunno why eh, but glad to hear :P |
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| 12:47.39 | allure | morning =) |
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| 12:54.01 | omid8bimo | hey one question, anybody know what is the hash type for shadow passwords encryption exatly? they start with $1$.. |
| 12:54.08 | omid8bimo | it's not md5 hash |
| 12:54.10 | omid8bimo | right? |
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| 12:55.59 | oggei | omid8bimo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypt_(Unix) |
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| 12:57.04 | omid8bimo | oggei: any method or tool to convert a string to that in shell? (like for md5 i do "echo -n "text" | md5sum") |
| 12:57.36 | oggei | mkpasswd |
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| 13:00.43 | VampirePenguin | does anyone know how long boost is going to be taken out of lenny/testing/sid.. the libboost files are there but not boost itself... i cant open my fuse files bc of that "withdrawl" |
| 13:01.02 | omid8bimo | oggei: got it "mkpasswd -m md5 (string) |
| 13:01.06 | omid8bimo | oggei: thank you |
| 13:01.16 | koollman | VampirePenguin: which error do you get ? |
| 13:01.18 | oggei | np |
| 13:01.26 | VampirePenguin | checksum is wrong |
| 13:01.37 | omid8bimo | oggei: just one thing, it's not uniqe like md5 right? |
| 13:01.45 | koollman | VampirePenguin: With which command? |
| 13:01.48 | oggei | it's salted |
| 13:02.17 | VampirePenguin | encfs --i=90 blah blahha |
| 13:02.23 | WormFood | i like pepper on mine |
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| 13:02.38 | oggei | ah no wait, if your question is bout collision, no, being an hash |
| 13:03.03 | WormFood | and speaking of hash......I tried smoking it once, but couldn't keep the corned beef lit |
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| 13:04.27 | oggei | light an <applause> |
| 13:04.27 | koollman | VampirePenguin: that error doesn't mention anything about libboost ... Are you sure it's the real cause ? |
| 13:05.21 | jelly | omid8bimo: also, man 3 crypt |
| 13:05.31 | koollman | VampirePenguin: (and is it really in lenny, since encfs works fine for me... ) |
| 13:05.32 | VampirePenguin | thats the only depend i dont have... i found one hit on searchalot and that was their solution... there are about 10 different filesystem apps that depend on boost... a2ps is one...for instance |
| 13:07.16 | zaphire | i'm building a package (wmii 3.9b1) using dpkg-buildpackage, but in the resulting package almost nothing is included, despite everything is compiled all right. what could be the problem? |
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| 13:08.57 | Mkman | Hello |
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| 13:10.12 | oggei | zaphire: wmii tree is pretty strange, check twice installation part |
| 13:10.40 | oggei | i'd starting from wmii "vanilla" debianization |
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| 13:12.19 | vlt | Hello. What (cmd line or gui) tool can I use to record a video stream from my webcam to an avi or mpeg file? |
| 13:12.54 | VampirePenguin | mplayer or mencoder of ffmpeg |
| 13:13.18 | vlt | VampirePenguin: Thanks |
| 13:13.19 | VampirePenguin | cheese and wxcam are good.. wx cam will give you sound |
| 13:13.43 | zaphire | oggei: is debianization crucial by the way? |
| 13:14.37 | oggei | zaphire: install phase of debianization put relevant files to a debian/ subdir. Everything left out, that is, is left out :P |
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| 13:15.19 | oggei | "modern" packages ships configure and stuff, and are pretty easy to debianize: this is not the wmii case |
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| 13:16.13 | zaphire | that's the problem then, binaries aren't copied into debian/ |
| 13:16.19 | oggei | ah, but i see 3.9 tarball comes debianized, |
| 13:16.39 | oggei | never user vanilla sources, wait i'm compiling it (i'm happy 3.6 user) |
| 13:17.07 | kaleb | I am struggling with ACL:s, is it even possible to set just rw- permissions on a folder for a named user and he can be granted access but without the possibility to run programs? |
| 13:17.28 | kaleb | ie the execute bit set |
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| 13:19.24 | kaleb | I want to set the executebit only on directories and not files |
| 13:19.55 | oggei | zaphire: mmmmh, it's pretty empty indeed -.- |
| 13:20.46 | zaphire | any ideas? |
| 13:20.47 | oggei | i think there is a trivial error in control file, wait |
| 13:20.48 | oggei | yes |
| 13:21.05 | oggei | package is wmii-hg but got installed to debian/wmii |
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| 13:22.05 | CRYSiS-God | hi, i installed debian 5.0.3 from cd1, now i cant connect to internet. im using adsl broadband. no pppoeconf. Any hel in this case? |
| 13:22.16 | CRYSiS-God | help* |
| 13:22.55 | abrotman | pppoeconf is on that first CD |
| 13:23.20 | CRYSiS-God | so, it didnt installed as default? |
| 13:23.39 | abrotman | CRYSiS-God: aptitude install pppoeconf ? |
| 13:23.41 | oggei | zaphire: debianization is pretty fscked need some fixes |
| 13:23.59 | oggei | the first is for sure to rename ^Package: line in debian/control, from wmii-hg to wmii |
| 13:24.08 | oggei | but postinst is also broken and other stuff |
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| 13:24.15 | zaphire | just did that |
| 13:24.22 | CRYSiS-God | abrotman, i cant connect to internet,aptitude install pppoeconf wont work. |
| 13:24.43 | abrotman | you still have the first CD |
| 13:25.17 | abrotman | zaphire: are you trying ot make your own package? |
| 13:25.47 | zaphire | yes |
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| 13:26.58 | oggei | abrotman: vanilla tree is already debianized |
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| 13:27.04 | CRYSiS-God | ok, |
| 13:27.06 | oggei | (but badly broken) |
| 13:27.07 | CRYSiS-God | let e try it |
| 13:27.10 | CRYSiS-God | me* |
| 13:27.24 | abrotman | zaphire: you might wnat to ask #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net |
| 13:27.32 | zaphire | ok |
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| 13:33.42 | oggei | zaphire: https://launchpad.net/~maglione-k/+archive/ppa/+packages |
| 13:34.39 | oggei | those are for ubuntu so ymmv but seems to work |
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| 13:36.24 | zaphire | oggei: these are binary only, right? |
| 13:36.34 | oggei | yes |
| 13:38.05 | zaphire | i'd like to modify a few things, that's why i need to compile it so badly :( |
| 13:38.07 | PRO-DRIVE | why the amd64 testing Directory is empty ? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/ ! |
| 13:38.51 | abrotman | that's normal |
| 13:39.09 | abrotman | PRO-DRIVE: use the netinst |
| 13:40.33 | PRO-DRIVE | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:41.32 | abrotman | then use stable |
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| 13:45.03 | PRO-DRIVE | abrotman: ummm , what's wrong with 64-bit ? i think it's more prevalent than armel or mips !! |
| 13:45.29 | abrotman | they're just not there this week .. AIUI, they don't build them all each week |
| 13:45.44 | abrotman | PRO-DRIVE: if you odn't have a decent internet connection, use stable .. |
| 13:46.03 | karme | wouldn't it be nice if we had a apt-get/aptitude that could handle source only repos? |
| 13:46.19 | abrotman | karme: you mean like a 'deb-src' line with apt-build ? |
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| 13:46.57 | karme | abrotman: but handling the build-dependencies - maybe building the packages with sbuild and setting up a local repo |
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| 13:47.25 | abrotman | karme: you can do it with apt-build |
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| 13:47.39 | karme | abrotman: it handles build-dependencies? |
| 13:47.56 | abrotman | karme: if you want a distro that compiles everything, it's probably not debian |
| 13:48.03 | vlt | Hello. I tried "cheese" to capture video from my webcam. How to save the recorded data to a file finally? |
| 13:48.08 | karme | abrotman: no i don't want that |
| 13:48.18 | abrotman | vlt: right click on the image in the bottom and save it ? |
| 13:48.21 | karme | abrotman: but i think it would be nice to have additional source only repos |
| 13:48.32 | abrotman | it's availble |
| 13:48.55 | rittyan | is there a better way to get latest package version from changelog than `parsechangelog | perl -nE'if(m/^Version: (.+)$/){print "$1\n";}'` ? |
| 13:48.59 | karme | abrotman: at the moment i try to set up a auto build network for lenny/squeeze + amd64/i386/kfreebsd-amd64/arm/armel - and it is a mess |
| 13:49.10 | karme | abrotman: wanna-build and buildd suck |
| 13:49.30 | abrotman | rittyan: from the changelog, or just in general ? |
| 13:49.55 | rittyan | abrotman, from the debian/changelog, the one edited with dch command |
| 13:49.55 | abrotman | karme: pbuilder ? |
| 13:50.13 | karme | abrotman: is the following correct? debian itself uses wanna-build+buildd - but there is no working packaged version of it? |
| 13:50.54 | abrotman | karme: of those tools? i don't believe there is directly, but i don't use those |
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| 13:51.14 | karme | abrotman: sbuild works well - but it only build one package |
| 13:51.31 | abrotman | karme: actually .. i do see buildd in the package list |
| 13:51.34 | karme | abrotman: does pbuilder handle build-dependencies / oder the packages to build? |
| 13:51.48 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/buildd |
| 13:51.53 | karme | abrotman: in testing is a buildd, yes - but for me it doesn't work[tm] |
| 13:51.53 | rittyan | abrotman, no idea? |
| 13:52.15 | karme | abrotman: i just tried to backport the git version without success |
| 13:52.22 | abrotman | rittyan: not that i'm aware of |
| 13:52.28 | abrotman | karme: okay |
| 13:52.38 | rittyan | ok |
| 13:53.23 | karme | abrotman: as far as i see pbuilder does not handle the build order problem |
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| 13:53.34 | karme | abrotman: am i wrong? |
| 13:53.39 | abrotman | rittyan: can apt-listchanges get a specified file? would that be easier? |
| 13:54.25 | abrotman | karme: build order? why not? |
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| 13:54.48 | vlt | abrotman: There's no image in the bottom I could right click on. |
| 13:55.02 | karme | abrotman: for me it looks like pbuilder is more or less equal to sbuild |
| 13:55.16 | karme | abrotman: i am looking for a replacement for wanna-build/buildd |
| 13:55.27 | abrotman | vlt: for me there is .. which version ? |
| 13:55.55 | abrotman | karme: i don't believe there is .. i'm just sharing what many people use to build package |
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| 13:58.30 | karme | abrotman: building a single package using sbuild works well now - my problem is building many packages for many arches with interdepencies such that some source packages must be build and installed in the repo first (autobuilder network) |
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| 14:01.03 | karme | i guess i have 2 choices: 1) try to help getting wanna-build and buildd work as fine as sbuild already does 2) continue with my own script hackery |
| 14:01.24 | abrotman | karme: or ask others what they do |
| 14:01.26 | karme | 3) get some sleep |
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| 14:01.46 | karme | abrotman: yeah thats - why i am here ;-) |
| 14:02.12 | abrotman | karme: i meant on a mailing list |
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| 14:03.04 | abrotman | googling for "buildd alternative" isn't encouraging |
| 14:03.19 | karme | abrotman: ah yes - thats an idea - though it is slow ;-) [i guess i just underestimated the effort involved in doing that] |
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| 14:03.46 | abrotman | karme: maybe cowbuilder (not 100% sure it's for that) |
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| 14:04.45 | abrotman | eh, guess not |
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| 14:05.30 | karme | no |
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| 14:22.30 | Raven737 | Hi all... ok so TI just switched the NIC type of a VMware guest running debian lenny. When it booted up it said 'eth0 up' but i can't ping anything. How do i see what's wrong? |
| 14:23.36 | rittyan | how can I do in a makefile (debian/rules) such thing: if $(TREEISH) is not defined: $(TREEISH) = some_default_value ? |
| 14:24.05 | rittyan | Raven737, ifconfig to see if you have an ip address, route -n to see default routes |
| 14:24.24 | Raven737 | Oh... i remember someone telling me that i might have to delete some file if the mac address of the nic changed.. can someone tell me which one again? |
| 14:26.10 | Raven737 | rittyan: well i set a static ip address.. if i had set it to dhcp then i probably would not. Route only shows 2 (to and from the gateway, i think) |
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| 14:28.23 | rittyan | Raven737, do you have 0.0.0.0 as a destination? |
| 14:28.47 | Raven737 | rittyan: yes |
| 14:29.08 | rittyan | and what do you get when you try to ping? |
| 14:30.20 | Raven737 | rittyan: 'Destination Host Unreachable' when i try to ping the gateway, normal when i try to ping 0.0.0.0 (or 127.x.x.x) |
| 14:30.49 | rittyan | maybe your cable is broken? i don't know, sorry |
| 14:31.01 | rvsjoen | pastebin 'ip a;ip r' |
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| 14:32.47 | rvsjoen | that was for you raven737 |
| 14:32.51 | abrotman | Raven737: ask #vmware ? |
| 14:33.08 | ethanol | Raven737: maybe packets are rejected by your firewall |
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| 14:33.54 | ethanol | or did I miss a crucial part of the conversation ruling this out? x: |
| 14:34.12 | Raven737 | rvsjoen: http://pastebin.com/d65cc6b1 Thanks :) |
| 14:35.54 | Raven737 | ethanol: well nothing else was chnaged. Just the original nic was removed and a new one was added, but the drivers where loaded, showed up. hmmm |
| 14:35.55 | rvsjoen | can you ping 10.80.225.254 ? |
| 14:36.12 | Raven737 | rvsjoen: no, i reied to ping the gateway :( |
| 14:36.32 | Raven737 | oh hang on.. wrong network! |
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| 14:37.05 | Raven737 | it's supposed to be 10.80.224.150, it was set to 225 :( |
| 14:38.13 | Raven737 | Thank you all for the help though, i shouldhave seent hat earlier.. not thinking streight :( |
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| 14:38.27 | Raven737 | Thanks! :) |
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| 14:41.55 | rittyan | debian/rules question: TREEISH = $(shell parsechangelog | perl -nE'if(m/^Version: (.+)$/){print "$1\n";}') <- what to escape with what quantity of slashes so it would work in a makefile? :O |
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| 14:46.55 | cheako | Can the new installer do grub on GPT? |
| 14:47.12 | rvsjoen | wouldn't string quoting ('foo') suffice ? |
| 14:47.17 | rvsjoen | s/string/strong |
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| 15:09.38 | silidan | hi i am on debian 64 bit and try to compile a package but i get the following error: QCam.cpp:1: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set , what do i need to edit to make this thing compilable on 64 bit debian? (name of software i try to compile is: qastrocam-g2 found on sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/qastrocam-g2/ can anyone help me get this thing compiling? |
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| 15:11.29 | abrotman | silidan: dpkg-architecture .. what's the first line ? |
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| 15:12.07 | silidan | DEB_BUILD_ARCH=amd64 |
| 15:12.34 | silidan | so i guess i should write this in the rules file in the debian directory inside this project? |
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| 15:20.26 | silidan | well at least changing the rules file in the debian subdir to match output of dpkg-acrchitecure didtn help... |
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| 15:24.16 | unkmar | So, I crated a launcher in gnome on the upper panel. Where is that located in the system files? |
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| 15:26.10 | silidan | unkmar: dunno if it is this but there is a .gnome2/panel2.d/ folder in your home i guess... |
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| 15:27.15 | eightfold | how do i configure openvpn to make connections _not_ go through tun0 by default? |
| 15:28.28 | oggei | eightfold: you will terminate vpn through correct gw, but i suspect this isn't your question |
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| 15:29.08 | Ironhand | hello, I'm setting up Lenny on a Dell PE R410 server, but I'm running into the following problem: I want to run a Xen enabled kernel, but also need kernel 2.6.29 support for the server's Broadcom NICs from backports... anyone know if there are backported -xen kernels for Lenny somewhere like there were for Etch? |
| 15:29.11 | rittyan | can I set user-defined fields (XBS-Something) dinamically during execution of debuild? |
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| 15:30.17 | cantoma | guys I am trying to mount a cifs filesystem in my computer. I could do it using "mount -o user=c119470 '//ccgridnfs-1.central.cranfield.ac.uk/c119470' grid/". I am having problems adding that to fstab. I tried "'//ccgridnfs-1.central.cranfield.ac.uk/c119470' /media/grid cifs username=c119470,password=XXXXXXXX,auto,user,uid=c119470,rw 0 0" but it gives "mount error: improperly formatted UNC name." What it could be the problem? |
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| 15:38.52 | keith4 | cantoma: don't wrap it in single quotes |
| 15:39.00 | valdyn | cantoma: c119470 is a local user? |
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| 15:44.30 | cantoma | valdyn, keith4, actually i could solve the problem taking single quotes and replacing // with \\. Now the problem is that I don't have user c119470. Thats my university login. In my computer it doesn't exists. I am able to mount it has root but not has user. |
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| 15:44.59 | keith4 | that shouldn't matter |
| 15:45.02 | valdyn | cantoma: use uid=localuser |
| 15:45.04 | keith4 | but you might need domain/user |
| 15:45.17 | valdyn | cantoma: or just skip that parameter |
| 15:45.38 | valdyn | cantoma: the "user" makes it user mountable |
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| 15:47.21 | cantoma | valdyn, this works for root = "\\ccgridnfs-1.central.cranfield.ac.uk\c119470 /media/grid cifs credentials=/usr/local/cifs/jduro.cifs,auto,user,rw 0 0" for user it gives mount error: permission denied or not superuser and mount.cifs not installed SUID |
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| 15:47.53 | valdyn | cantoma: why is it not install sui root? |
| 15:48.01 | valdyn | cantoma: or how did you change mount.cifs permissions? |
| 15:48.24 | cantoma | valdyn, the permission file /usr/local/cifs/jduro.cifs was created by me |
| 15:48.32 | valdyn | cantoma: its -rwsr-xr-x in debian |
| 15:48.48 | valdyn | cantoma: jduro? what does that have to do with mount.cifs? |
| 15:49.09 | cantoma | well its the only permissions file that i know |
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| 15:49.22 | valdyn | cantoma: every file has permissions associated to it |
| 15:49.30 | cantoma | -rw-r--r-- |
| 15:49.32 | valdyn | cantoma: ls -l /sbin/mount.cifs |
| 15:49.34 | cantoma | its for that file |
| 15:49.57 | cantoma | -rwsr-xr-x for /sbin/mount.cifs |
| 15:50.11 | valdyn | cantoma: type "which mount.cifs" |
| 15:50.23 | cantoma | nothing shows in user |
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| 15:50.44 | valdyn | cantoma: as root |
| 15:50.46 | cantoma | root gives /sbin/mount.cifs |
| 15:50.58 | cantoma | the file you were pointing |
| 15:51.03 | valdyn | cantoma: ls -l /usr/local/sbin/mount* |
| 15:51.17 | cantoma | so such file |
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| 15:51.27 | valdyn | cantoma: ls -l /bin/mount |
| 15:51.38 | cantoma | -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 66152 2008-04-29 03:36 /bin/mount |
| 15:51.49 | valdyn | and "which mount" gives what? |
| 15:51.56 | valdyn | ( as user ) |
| 15:51.59 | cantoma | /bin/mount |
| 15:52.00 | cantoma | yes |
| 15:52.13 | cantoma | as user the same |
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| 15:52.59 | valdyn | cantoma: what are you typing to mount as user? |
| 15:53.11 | cantoma | mount /media/grid |
| 15:53.36 | cantoma | since its in the fstab |
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| 15:54.18 | cantoma | back to one of your question .. I don't have suid |
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| 15:55.32 | valdyn | cantoma: uh? your mount and your mount.cifs are both suid root |
| 15:55.43 | visik7 | jelly: yes ownership and permissions are correct |
| 15:55.46 | cantoma | first i don't know what is suid |
| 15:55.49 | silidan | hi i am on debian 64 bit and try to compile a package but i get the following error: QCam.cpp:1: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set , what do i need to edit to make this thing compilable on 64 bit debian? (name of software i try to compile is: qastrocam-g2 found on sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/qastrocam-g2/ can anyone help me get this thing compiling? |
| 15:56.29 | rvsjoen | 'CPU you selected' ? how did you select this and what did you select |
| 15:56.29 | valdyn | cantoma: it means that the suid bit is set which means that the program runs as the file owner, not as the user that starts the program |
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| 15:56.57 | silidan | rvsjoen: i dont know, i just typed make configure-debian and then make ... |
| 15:57.11 | cantoma | valdyn, ok so mount.cifs is installed but only root can use it |
| 15:57.22 | cantoma | is there a way to letting user to use it? |
| 15:57.36 | valdyn | cantoma: thats wrong, mount.cifs is suid root, users can use it |
| 15:57.57 | cantoma | but my user cannot see it |
| 15:58.14 | cantoma | $ mount.cifs -> bash: mount.cifs: command not found |
| 15:58.23 | valdyn | cantoma: thats not the problem |
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| 15:59.01 | cantoma | ok so what you think is the problem? |
| 15:59.01 | rvsjoen | silidan: did you check the INSTALL/README files ? |
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| 16:05.03 | jelly | visik7: no idea then, try a courier specific channel? |
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| 16:06.55 | visik7 | jelly almost empty :( |
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| 16:09.40 | krion | quick question, is there everything in a lenny netinst in order to configure a vlan interface prior to connect to the internet ? (like vlanconfig) |
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| 16:11.20 | Dnumgis | hi there, anyone happen to know which tools are used to build debian( based) distributions? |
| 16:11.32 | cantoma | valdyn, i think this is a bug from debian right?! |
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| 16:13.08 | alexidoia | hi there, while I was upgrading the main server for a local network of machines in a school, one of the teachers unplug the computer from the wall. I have now a broken system which seems to have / mounted as readonly |
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| 16:13.26 | alexidoia | I would greatly appreciated the help of some good terminal user |
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| 16:14.20 | emorris | hi, is there any way to stop the output from a disowned app from being sent to the terminal without closing it/using a different one? |
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| 16:15.08 | \amethyst | emorris: once the process is started, not really a good way |
| 16:15.24 | emorris | hmm, ok |
| 16:15.29 | alexidoia | anyone please ?* |
| 16:15.32 | \amethyst | emorris: it's theoretically possible to attach to the process with a debugger, close() the fds, and open() them on /dev/null |
| 16:15.48 | \amethyst | emorris: but it's also theoretically possible for that to crash the program |
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| 16:15.53 | techsupport | anyone familiar with OpenEMM ? Is it any good ? |
| 16:16.16 | emorris | \amethyst: yeah, i don't think i'll risk that |
| 16:17.23 | silidan | rvsjoen: coulnt find info there... |
| 16:17.35 | cantoma | valdyn, they don't seems to agree in solving the problem - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=403700 |
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| 16:18.48 | \amethyst | cantoma: that says you need 1. the 'user' or 'users' option in the fstab entry for what you're trying to mount, and 2. to own the mount point you're trying to mount it on |
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| 16:19.50 | larsl | Has anyone else seen seemingly random kernel panics (screen freezes, caps/num lock LEDs flash) with recent kernels? |
| 16:20.14 | PointMan | Im trying to ssh to my remote debian server and I get this error: ssh_exchange_identification: Ive tried ssh root@hostname and shh -l root@hostname neither works but have in the past. I have no other way to contact it |
| 16:20.34 | larsl | I'm suspecting iwlagn because that has been causing problemss earlier (taking down the network, requiring a removal and reinsert of the module to work again) but there's nothing in the logs. |
| 16:20.49 | cantoma | \amethyst, for the 1. i have user in fstab. For the 2. I am not shore .. how can I check how owns the mount point? |
| 16:21.04 | cantoma | who owns* |
| 16:21.06 | asg | PointMan: it is possible that your server is under attack and the default 10 unauthenticated connections are in a wait state; Keep trying and see if you can manage to log in. |
| 16:21.12 | \amethyst | cantoma: if you're trying to mount in /mnt for example, ls -ld /mnt |
| 16:21.25 | cantoma | \amethyst, i did chmod 777 to the folder |
| 16:21.28 | cantoma | in root |
| 16:21.32 | \amethyst | cantoma: that's not enough |
| 16:21.44 | \amethyst | cantoma: it has to actually be owned by that user, not just writable |
| 16:22.02 | \amethyst | cantoma: chown myusername /path/to/directory |
| 16:22.05 | PointMan | asg>where can I read more about this wait state? |
| 16:22.11 | cantoma | drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 4096 2010-01-18 15:23 grid/ |
| 16:22.11 | asg | PointMan: man sshd_config |
| 16:22.13 | \amethyst | cantoma: (then maybe chmod it back to 755 or 700 or something) |
| 16:22.38 | \amethyst | cantoma: so it's owned by root right now... use chown to make your normal user own it |
| 16:23.06 | cantoma | perfect :) |
| 16:23.08 | alexidoia | I try to mount -o remount,rw / and I have a bizarre msg |
| 16:23.11 | alexidoia | mount : /lib/libblkid.so.1 : no version information available (require by mount) |
| 16:23.16 | alexidoia | anyone please ? |
| 16:23.23 | asg | PointMan: the 'MaxStartups' option. I mention it because I had the same experience yesterday on one of my ssh honeypots. There has been an increase in brute-force attacks since Saturday. |
| 16:23.32 | cantoma | \amethyst, i will take note of chown command .. thanks a lot |
| 16:23.56 | \amethyst | alexidoia: is that file (or the file that symlink points to) corrupted? |
| 16:24.51 | alexidoia | looks like the whole system is, as I said someone unplug the computer while upgrading |
| 16:25.00 | alexidoia | what can I do ? |
| 16:25.02 | \amethyst | alexidoia: you might need to reinstall |
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| 16:25.42 | \amethyst | alexidoia: you should be able to boot from a live CD or an installer CD copy off the important stuff (or at least, the important stuff that didn't get corrupted) |
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| 16:31.58 | PointMan | asg: um how can I be sure its not a malfunction on the server and just an attack? |
| 16:32.06 | PointMan | asg: i mean if it contnues for days |
| 16:32.26 | jhutchins_lt | Hm. debian-multimedia.org seems down... |
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| 16:34.14 | asg | PointMan: you might see if ssh -vv user@server reveals any more details. Otherwise, you can't really tell unless you can get access to the server and see if it an issue with MaxStartups, filesystem full, OOM, or your client ip added to /etc/hosts.deny. |
| 16:35.07 | abrotman | jhutchins_lt: there are mirrors |
| 16:35.17 | \amethyst | don't forget fail2ban |
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| 16:35.27 | asg | nods |
| 16:35.35 | \amethyst | oh, it uses hosts.deny |
| 16:35.58 | \amethyst | or can |
| 16:36.05 | obiwan_ | hi, please could anybody explain me what you use when you don't use framebuffer? a guy told me i use frambuffer, and i told him i don't. But then i wonder what do i use instead |
| 16:36.18 | \amethyst | obiwan_: VGA text mode |
| 16:36.39 | asg | \amethyst: he would see that with hosts.deny; if fail2ban was using iptables, the connection attempt would just hang. |
| 16:36.57 | \amethyst | obiwan_: (the same video mode DOS started up in, and some but not all BIOSes still use) |
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| 16:37.37 | \amethyst | obiwan_: if you weren't on a PC, then you likely don't have VGA text mode, and you'd probably have to use a framebuffer console |
| 16:37.44 | \amethyst | (or serial, or ...) |
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| 16:37.54 | \amethyst | s/don't/wouldn't/ |
| 16:38.22 | amgarching | Hi, is /etc/profile.d an ubuntu-feature? I dont find it on Lenny. What do you use to add system-wide environment vars? |
| 16:38.37 | abrotman | amgarching: /etc/profile might be one place |
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| 16:39.01 | \amethyst | obiwan_: in VGA text mode, each pair of bytes in (the relevant range of) video memory contains a character code and color for that cell, and the video card rasterizes that |
| 16:39.55 | obiwan_ | sry \amethyst i don't answer because i'm trying to understand it |
| 16:40.18 | \amethyst | obiwan_: whereas in framebuffer mode, video memory is divided into N bits per pixel, and the kernel does the rasterization |
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| 16:40.42 | iwkse | hi, there's a way to hold a package from within /etc/apt conf files? |
| 16:41.02 | \amethyst | obiwan_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_mode might be somewhat helpful |
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| 16:42.10 | adb | iwkse, /msg dpkg hold |
| 16:42.14 | \amethyst | obiwan_: also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framebuffer |
| 16:42.24 | obiwan_ | thanks \amethyst :))) |
| 16:42.41 | \amethyst | obiwan_: but it's really just a matter of who is drawing the characters, the video card or the operating system |
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| 16:43.31 | krion | was my question too dumb ? |
| 16:43.33 | obiwan_ | so vga text mode = card, and fb = system right? |
| 16:43.33 | iwkse | adb: ok, i knew these two ways just was wondering if i could achieve the same from within /etc/apt conf files |
| 16:43.47 | \amethyst | obiwan_: yeah |
| 16:43.55 | obiwan_ | ok, and in graphic mode? |
| 16:43.58 | obiwan_ | i mean, if i start x |
| 16:44.17 | \amethyst | obiwan_: then it's a different story |
| 16:44.22 | obiwan_ | can i use frambuffer within X? or vga text mode? |
| 16:44.31 | abrotman | krion: isn't that for creating them? not attaching to them? |
| 16:44.54 | abrotman | krion: i don't even see a 'vlanconfig' in the system at all |
| 16:45.08 | \amethyst | obiwan_: either way, the video card will be running in framebuffer mode... so then the question is, does X talk to the video card directly, or does it go through the same interface the kernel uses for the framebuffer console |
| 16:45.29 | PointMan | asg: um http://pastie.org/783351, does that tell you anything? |
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| 16:46.22 | Gijs | Hey all |
| 16:46.24 | \amethyst | obiwan_: so when someone says 'framebuffer' in relation to X on Linux, they often mean xserver-xorg-video-fbdev, the X driver that uses the kernel framebuffer device as the backend |
| 16:46.32 | abrotman | PointMan: i think he went to lunch |
| 16:46.35 | Gijs | What is a good FTP software for debian? |
| 16:46.39 | abrotman | vsftpd |
| 16:46.53 | abrotman | or did you mean a client? |
| 16:46.58 | Gijs | and what is the best ftp software |
| 16:46.58 | Gijs | no server |
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| 16:47.07 | Gijs | no i mean server* |
| 16:47.16 | \amethyst | obiwan_: (which is only usable if you have the kernel set up to use/provide a framebuffer device, which might not be the case if you're using VGA text mode) |
| 16:47.30 | abrotman | Gijs: didn't you just ask that questoin? |
| 16:47.48 | Gijs | yes :P |
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| 16:47.55 | Gijs | is vsftpd one of the best ftp servers? |
| 16:47.57 | krion | abrotman: i was wrong, it's called vconfig and it's in the vlan package who's not on the netinstaller |
| 16:48.10 | abrotman | Gijs: just try it |
| 16:48.15 | obiwan_ | but \amethyst you said :either way the card will be running in fb mode, does card always work in fb mode? even when using vga text mode? |
| 16:48.23 | abrotman | Gijs: you haven't given us any real requirements .. you were given an answer .. go try it |
| 16:48.37 | Gijs | I need a easy FTP software wich i can add/edit/remove easy users with |
| 16:48.56 | Gijs | :D |
| 16:49.11 | krion | abrotman: looks like it's needed to tag interface in a vlan |
| 16:49.54 | Gijs | abrotman are that good requirements :)? |
| 16:50.17 | abrotman | try vsftpd |
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| 16:52.09 | medivh_ | Hi! I a new debian user and I need some help about installing one of latest kernels (2.6.31 or later) on debian stable. |
| 16:52.35 | \amethyst | obiwan_: no, framebuffer mode is the other mode, where there is an array of pixels |
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| 16:52.35 | abrotman | why? what's worng with the .26? |
| 16:52.56 | abrotman | medivh_: you can get a .30 at backports.org |
| 16:53.03 | medivh_ | I need to use performance counters which are included in the kernel after 2.6.31 |
| 16:53.23 | Gijs | abrotman, is there a FTP software wich does not use system users? |
| 16:53.30 | \amethyst | obiwan_: X doesn't do text mode, so it will always use the video card's framebuffer mode. That's why "framebuffer X" is talking about what driver it uses, not the video mode |
| 16:53.43 | abrotman | Gijs: vsftpd |
| 16:54.00 | Gijs | it uses system users |
| 16:54.01 | medivh_ | abrotman, thanks but these perf counters are included after 2.6.31 I tried .30 but it did not work |
| 16:54.39 | abrotman | Gijs: you need to do some more reading |
| 16:54.57 | abrotman | medivh_: you can try the one from unstable, but not a great plan .. or compile it yourself |
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| 16:55.02 | abrotman | !tell medivh_ about kp |
| 16:55.20 | \amethyst | Gijs: http://howto.gumph.org/content/setup-virtual-users-and-directories-in-vsftpd/ |
| 16:55.32 | pistache | i got a problem removing a package |
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| 16:55.56 | PointMan | asg: looked at the pastie yet please? :) |
| 16:56.26 | pistache | the package is cvs, and it's telling me (translated from french) "unable to execute installed post-intallation script: Format error for exec() |
| 16:56.36 | medivh_ | I have tried installing from unstable repositories but it comes with some other updates (required dependencies like libc) and those new packages break the system finally I can not compile my own applications |
| 16:56.42 | abrotman | PointMan: i told you .. he went to lunch |
| 16:56.43 | eightfold | _ |
| 16:56.43 | pistache | i'm using squeeze. how I could I fix this package ? |
| 16:56.48 | medivh_ | only option looks like compiling on my own? |
| 16:56.56 | PointMan | ah sorry abrotman |
| 16:57.18 | \amethyst | pistache: does your /bin/sh work? |
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| 16:57.38 | pistache | \amethyst: it works, but it's weird |
| 16:57.48 | pistache | \h:\w$ |
| 16:57.52 | pistache | that's my prompt |
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| 16:58.03 | \amethyst | pistache: that's fine, it just means you have a bash-specific PS1 |
| 16:58.18 | pistache | yeah, I have dash now |
| 16:59.36 | pat|nG | can someone send me the link where i can download the stable debian? |
| 16:59.46 | pistache | i did |
| 16:59.49 | pistache | yesterday. |
| 16:59.57 | abrotman | pat|nG: /msg dpkg netinst |
| 17:00.08 | abrotman | pat|nG: /msg dpkg lenny |
| 17:00.25 | pat|nG | it's awkie i get it |
| 17:00.28 | \amethyst | pistache: does /var/lib/dpkg/info/cvs.postinst look like a normal shell script? starts with #!/bin/sh, executable, ... ? |
| 17:00.29 | pat|nG | thank you |
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| 17:01.11 | pistache | \amethyst: it's empty, i'm filling it with "#/bin/sh \n exit 0" |
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| 17:01.54 | \amethyst | pistache: empty... |
| 17:01.59 | \amethyst | pistache: that's bad |
| 17:02.08 | pistache | my disk looks good, though |
| 17:02.27 | pistache | thanks, \amethyst you saved my day. |
| 17:02.41 | pistache | now, I have a libcroco.so file in /usr/lib, empty too |
| 17:02.43 | \amethyst | pistache: oh, you're removing the package, so I guess it's not so bad |
| 17:02.58 | pistache | I guess I just to need to reinstall libcroco3 |
| 17:03.11 | \amethyst | pistache: odd... that should be a symlink if anything |
| 17:03.22 | pistache | \amethyst: it's a symlink to an empty file |
| 17:03.25 | \amethyst | pistache: the plain .so without a version would be in the -dev package |
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| 17:03.38 | \amethyst | pistache: ah, yeah, that would be in the lib package |
| 17:03.50 | pistache | well, it's installed |
| 17:03.56 | pistache | oh. |
| 17:04.07 | pistache | same problem, I can't reinstall it, empty postrm/prerm |
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| 17:04.36 | pistache | dpkg is confused :) |
| 17:04.36 | dpkg | pistache: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 17:04.57 | pistache | uh. |
| 17:05.03 | \amethyst | pistache: remove them (probably /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package>.*) and reinstall the package |
| 17:05.16 | pistache | \amethyst: I do. |
| 17:05.30 | \amethyst | pistache: but I wonder how many other packages have the same problem now |
| 17:05.58 | \amethyst | pistache: I'd boot from a live cd/installer and fsck -f the filesystem |
| 17:06.20 | pistache | I guess it's because my system shot down hard, that I changed country, that Windows messed with my hwclock, that ext4 was confused (file last modification date was in the future), and that the fsck cleaned some files |
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| 17:06.36 | \amethyst | pistache: ah, while you were installing packages? |
| 17:06.45 | pistache | no, but just after |
| 17:06.59 | \amethyst | pistache: before all the changes were flushed out to disk |
| 17:07.05 | pistache | i guess |
| 17:07.11 | pistache | thanks much, \amethyst :) |
| 17:07.19 | \amethyst | pistache: so when the journal got rolled back, you had a bunch of empty files |
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| 17:08.24 | \amethyst | pistache: look for more zero-byte files in /var/lib/dpkg/info, and maybe use debsums to find other things that may have been screwed up |
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| 17:08.56 | mick_laptop | anyone know if there is a rename for OSX? |
| 17:10.18 | \amethyst | mick_laptop: the one in Debian is just a Perl script---it should run fine if you just copy it to a Mac |
| 17:10.20 | pistache | \amethyst: ok |
| 17:10.36 | mick_laptop | ya, i'll just scp the file over - thansk |
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| 17:12.29 | The_Eccentric | dpkg: skype |
| 17:12.29 | dpkg | [skype] a proprietary cross-platform VoIP program which Debian cannot distribute due to its restrictive license. Packages are available from http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/ or use the sources.list line "deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free". Not supported in #debian, consider using <ekiga>, <linphone> or <pidgin> instead. http://wiki.debian.org/skype |
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| 17:14.45 | Xenguy | Hi - I'm running lenny/stable, and rkhunter has begun complaining about various items... |
| 17:15.00 | Xenguy | The latest is this error: Network TCP port 13000 is being used by /usr/bin/python2.5. Possible |
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| 17:15.20 | Xenguy | +rootkit: Possible Universal Rootkit (URK) SSH server |
| 17:15.37 | Xenguy | Has anyone else see this kind of report from rkhunter lately? |
| 17:15.52 | Xenguy | (Googling is not turning up any clues for me) |
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| 17:23.03 | medivh_ | I am going to compile my own kernel but how can I integrate intel wifi5100 and nvidia drivers in it? Install after installing new kernel? |
| 17:24.20 | k- | medivh_, what kernel are you using? from kernel.org? |
| 17:24.41 | medivh_ | k-, yes I am downloading 2.6.32.3 from kernel.org |
| 17:25.30 | medivh_ | I know how to install nvidia after installing new kernel but dont know how to integrate it inside the kernel and dont know any way to install intel5100 on custom kernel |
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| 17:26.51 | hiwk | I wwant to install iceweasel 2 in parallel with my current iceweasel 3.5 (for retarded reasons beyond my controll), can I do that with apt? how? |
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| 17:27.50 | abrotman | hiwk: probably a VM of etch would be the easiest ? |
| 17:28.49 | hiwk | abrotman: I rather not waste that much hd and ram space |
| 17:29.13 | abrotman | hiwk: it would be the cleanest way |
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| 17:29.46 | hiwk | there have to be a "standard" way for debian to keep multiple versions of the samee package installed |
| 17:29.49 | hiwk | right? |
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| 17:30.26 | jelly | hiwk: exact same package, no. If it were a library, debian would handle that by naming the packages differently. |
| 17:30.56 | macrobat | will i break stuff if i chroot into an i686 install from x86_64? |
| 17:31.09 | jelly | hiwk: you could use a chroot |
| 17:31.18 | lumis | I wonder if anyone can help me with this: I'm setting up fglrx on my AMD64 Lenny box, but xorg won't start; looking over the logs it says that fglrx doesn't support the specifed depth (8.) I've only defined one display subsection with a depth of 24. Does anyone know what might be wrong? |
| 17:31.19 | jelly | macrobat: not really, no |
| 17:31.24 | macrobat | ok |
| 17:32.05 | lumis | even wild guesses would be appreciated as I'm getting a little annoyed now ;) |
| 17:32.16 | k- | medivh_, then go to menuconfig, the drivers are at device drivers --> Network --> Wireless Lan --> Wifi |
| 17:33.02 | medivh_ | k-, would that be sufficient? I was normally installing firmware-iwlwifi package to get wifi work. |
| 17:34.28 | k- | medivh_, after you compile and install, your new kernel and modules, yes, download and install microcode for wifi5100 support |
| 17:34.52 | k- | medivh_, to get your wireless up and running |
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| 17:35.26 | medivh_ | k-, thanks I am starting compile now selected drivers from menuconfig |
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| 17:36.05 | hiwk | jelly: hm. sounds easier to install firefox (iceweasel isn't important) from their binary on a non-standard location |
| 17:36.18 | k- | medivh_, once you've installed new kernel and Intel micorcode, you're done ` |
| 17:36.29 | jelly | hiwk: indeed. |
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| 17:37.27 | jelly | hiwk: in addition, you gain Mozilla's automatic updates (if your /opt/firefox or whatever is owned by the same user running it) |
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| 17:38.08 | hiwk | jelly: cool, I'll try that |
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| 17:40.43 | PointMan | ok so my ip has ended up in the hosts.deny file, how do i remove it from the cmdline without having to use an editor? |
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| 17:42.16 | jelly | PointMan: what's wrong with using an editor? |
| 17:42.39 | llutz | PointMan: grep -v |
| 17:43.21 | jelly | PointMan: does the line affecting that host contain any other ip address? |
| 17:43.28 | jelly | if not, then what llutz said |
| 17:43.57 | jelly | PointMan: or else play with sed 's/a.b.c.d//g' |
| 17:44.11 | PointMan | k thanks |
| 17:44.27 | llutz | PointMan: if using denyhost, use allowed_hosts to prevent this situation :) |
| 17:44.31 | PointMan | if I add my ip to hosts.accept then it will always override an hosts.deny entry? |
| 17:46.02 | jelly | PointMan: dunno, does man hosts_access say anything about the order in which the rules are used? |
| 17:46.14 | jelly | "hosts.allow" |
| 17:46.34 | PointMan | will check |
| 17:46.35 | PointMan | thansk |
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| 17:59.57 | PointMan | When I do a fsck after a hard reboot I get told to do a manual fsck. When I do that then I get this http://pastie.org/783486 has 1 multiply-claimed block(s), shared with 1 file(s): ... Clone multiply-claimed blocks<y>? should I say yes? |
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| 18:02.52 | Zarion | Could someone telll me how to fix my LVM? or convert it to a normal ext3? Or may I just have to wipe everything out and start over? |
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| 18:10.02 | TIMiDo | hey how come everytime there an application that want to open up perhaps in Java i get and error message saying this Error Click For details |
| 18:11.02 | wildc4rd | evening all |
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| 18:14.30 | abrotman | TIMiDo: the error is ? |
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| 18:14.49 | TIMiDo | abrotman, something about some class errors |
| 18:15.04 | abrotman | yeah .. need more info .. i can't see oyur screen |
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| 18:16.04 | PyroPhelia | any fiber experts around? |
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| 18:16.24 | PyroPhelia | better yet, where would bet the best place to ask questions about laying fiber? |
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| 18:16.47 | abrotman | call your local fiber layer? |
| 18:17.26 | PyroPhelia | admins wont. I have to learn as much as I can so i can do it myself. yea I know the obvious your about to say, but i don't have much of a choice |
| 18:17.35 | ray66 | abrotman, I have the follow apps installed Lenny5.0.3..Kde 3.5...Kwin..Compiz-kde..Nvidia 190.53..shell script to autostart to start compiz...When booting I get a black screen between desktop opening and compiz opening...Is there a fix for this |
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| 18:17.57 | abrotman | ray66: of all the things oyu listed .. i use one |
| 18:18.15 | abrotman | PyroPhelia: maybe ##networking or #electronics .. no idea |
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| 18:19.39 | gp5st | i'm using debxo and i want to mount the internal nand, which device is it? |
| 18:19.54 | PyroPhelia | abrotman, thanks |
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| 18:21.31 | jhutchins | gp5st: internal nand? |
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| 18:22.35 | Zarion | isn't their a way to restore a lvm? |
| 18:22.54 | gp5st | jhutchins: yes |
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| 18:28.23 | gp5st | using apt i installed build-essentials but there aren't any man pages for gcc |
| 18:28.30 | gp5st | i just installed ruby and it got it's man pages |
| 18:28.42 | TIMiDo | abrotman, here is the error message http://pastebin.ca/1756351 |
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| 18:29.06 | gp5st | ly |
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| 18:29.07 | abrotman | TIMiDo: check the BTS, that's a known bug |
| 18:29.23 | gp5st | did i do something wrong or do i have to install the man pages seperatly |
| 18:29.27 | TIMiDo | how do i do that abrotman ? |
| 18:29.36 | abrotman | bugs.debian.org |
| 18:30.00 | TIMiDo | and what do i put? on the bug number? |
| 18:30.02 | TIMiDo | i don't know it |
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| 18:31.12 | JordiGH | Please don't kill me, but: http://fun.platinum.linux.pl/pics/how_debian_changes_people.jpg |
| 18:32.39 | abrotman | JordiGH: there's an offtopic channel .. go screw around in there |
| 18:32.53 | abrotman | TIMiDo: i don't know the bug number .. |
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| 18:33.16 | keith4 | is away: I'm busy |
| 18:33.27 | abrotman | !tell keith4 about away |
| 18:33.33 | abrotman | dpkg: dbugs 560056 |
| 18:33.38 | dpkg | #560056:I[openjdk-6] net.ipv6.bindv6only=1 breaks java networking (); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:12:09 UTC [560142] |
| 18:33.41 | keith4 | flogs xchat |
| 18:33.51 | abrotman | TIMiDo: so, http://bugs.debian.org/560056 |
| 18:34.05 | TIMiDo | yeah |
| 18:34.06 | TIMiDo | i got it |
| 18:34.07 | TIMiDo | already |
| 18:34.09 | mogra | can someone point me to the documentation for debian's default partition/mount setup? |
| 18:34.14 | jhutchins | gp5st: Building software with gcc goes way beyond what a man page would cover. |
| 18:34.20 | keith4 | abrotman: apologies. have unchecked the box |
| 18:34.25 | mogra | jfgi is failing finding that |
| 18:34.35 | TIMiDo | got it working |
| 18:34.38 | TIMiDo | already |
| 18:34.38 | TIMiDo | ty |
| 18:34.48 | abrotman | keith4: that you |
| 18:34.50 | abrotman | keith4: thank you |
| 18:34.53 | keith4 | turns out... alt A is "away" in xchat, i guess? |
| 18:35.03 | abrotman | mogra: it does it on percentages |
| 18:35.04 | jhutchins | gp5st: Howver, you can install gcc-doc if you want them. |
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| 18:35.16 | jhutchins | gp5st: There are a number of packages that have seperate doc packages. |
| 18:35.16 | abrotman | jhutchins: from non-free |
| 18:35.25 | keith4 | abrotman: at least you just scolded me. 4 other channels kicked me ;-) |
| 18:35.27 | mogra | abrotman: I understand that, I guess what I'd like to know is the resulting fstab from the default setup. |
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| 18:35.55 | abrotman | keith4: that comes later |
| 18:36.13 | abrotman | mogra: oh, it depends on the choices you pick when you do the 'guided setup' |
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| 18:36.50 | jhutchins | Surely there is some helpful factoid on the subject of building software from source? |
| 18:36.52 | mogra | abrotman: is there any documentation of what those choices yield? |
| 18:37.10 | abrotman | mogra: possibly in the installation guide |
| 18:37.15 | mogra | checking |
| 18:37.24 | abrotman | jhutchins: a debian package? or just something to track it ? |
| 18:38.28 | medivh_ | During my kernel compilation I get the following error: sys/eventfd.h no such file or directory, zlib.h no such file or directory |
| 18:38.53 | rvsjoen | what did you break |
| 18:39.05 | rvsjoen | and how do you compile the kernel |
| 18:39.20 | medivh_ | I dont know what I broke |
| 18:39.21 | medivh_ | but |
| 18:39.48 | mogra | thanks, abrotman, it had helpful information. |
| 18:40.11 | medivh_ | I have downloaded source from kernel.org loaded my working config from stable 2.6.26 and fakeroot make-dpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image kernel_headers |
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| 18:40.33 | medivh_ | *make-kpkg |
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| 18:41.54 | Gijs | Hey all |
| 18:41.55 | abrotman | medivh_: you need libzlibg1-dev or something like that |
| 18:41.55 | gp5st | which package has the gcc man page in it? |
| 18:42.02 | abrotman | gp5st: gcc-doc .. it's in non-free |
| 18:42.06 | abrotman | !tell gp5st about non-free |
| 18:42.33 | mogra | yay, it's booting. Now, to remember the command for Debian to generate grub's conf files |
| 18:42.34 | gp5st | oh |
| 18:42.34 | Gijs | is it possible to add a permission on a normal user to let him add users? |
| 18:42.44 | AimHere | Gijs, yes, using sudo |
| 18:42.45 | gp5st | i don't remember having to do that |
| 18:42.54 | gp5st | maybe it was just in ubuntu that you don't have to? |
| 18:43.01 | mogra | I'd like to say "dpkg-reconfigure grub" |
| 18:43.11 | medivh_ | abrotman, there is no such package in stable repository |
| 18:43.31 | Gijs | that won't work |
| 18:43.45 | Gijs | i want on a normal ssh user to give him the rights to add system users |
| 18:43.45 | abrotman | medivh_: aptitude search zlib |
| 18:44.10 | AimHere | Why won't it work, Gijs? |
| 18:44.25 | Gijs | it don't create the user |
| 18:44.30 | medivh_ | abrotman, there is zlib-bin, zlibc zlib1g ..... |
| 18:44.35 | Gijs | if i use sudo useradd ... |
| 18:44.38 | gp5st | abrotman: thanks |
| 18:44.50 | gp5st | i just couldn't find that, things pointed to manpages-dev |
| 18:44.58 | abrotman | medivh_: i told you it was a -dev package |
| 18:45.15 | abrotman | zlib1g-dev |
| 18:45.22 | medivh_ | abrotman, thanks |
| 18:45.37 | Gijs | where is the sudoers file? |
| 18:45.40 | AimHere | It's not as easy as just typing 'sudo useradd' - you'd have to fix up the /etc/sudoers file so that some user or user is allowed to use some application (like adduser or useradd) |
| 18:45.59 | alcohol | does anyone know if there is a channel for finch? |
| 18:46.05 | AimHere | 'man sudo' and 'man sudoers' is the documentation, such as it is |
| 18:46.16 | abrotman | alcohol: #pidgin |
| 18:46.37 | abrotman | alcohol: what's wrong with it ? |
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| 18:46.54 | abrotman | gp5st: did you figure it out ? |
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| 18:48.18 | medivh_ | abrotman, I still get the sys/eventfd.h no such file or directory error :( |
| 18:48.27 | gp5st | abrotman: yeah |
| 18:48.31 | abrotman | that's a different error |
| 18:48.39 | abrotman | medivh_: aptitude install build-essential .. might get you started |
| 18:48.57 | medivh_ | abrotman, I have it |
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| 18:49.37 | abrotman | medivh_: i doubt it .. it would have pulled in libc6-dev .. which has that file |
| 18:50.11 | medivh_ | abrotman, I do aptitude install build-essential but nothing new to install |
| 18:50.42 | abrotman | medivh_: is libc6-dev installed ? |
| 18:51.04 | medivh_ | abrotman, yes |
| 18:51.24 | abrotman | that's where that file is .. perhaps the error is farther above ? |
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| 18:53.18 | medivh_ | I checked the system eventfd.h file is found just inside the kernel source |
| 18:53.38 | medivh_ | could it be related to the virtualisation things in kernel config? |
| 18:54.07 | rvsjoen | I didnt think you needed libc6 headers to compile the kernel ? |
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| 18:55.05 | medivh_ | I have deselected virtualisation from kernel config |
| 18:55.13 | medivh_ | trying again now |
| 18:55.34 | jpinx-eeepc | anyone able to point me in the right direction for configuring seperate resolutions and orientations for internal and external monitors? |
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| 18:56.11 | rvsjoen | jpinx-eeepc: xrandr ? |
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| 18:57.04 | alcohol | abrotman: dunno, it kept crashing constantly. but so did adium on my imac. think it was perhaps libpurple related since they are both based on it. |
| 18:57.19 | alcohol | abrotman: since I removed my aunt from my contacts, it stopped crashing on both machines :') |
| 18:57.35 | jpinx-eeepc | rvsjoen: ok - that does the settings, but how to define which monitor they apply to? |
| 18:57.43 | abrotman | alcohol: using jabber.org ? |
| 18:57.49 | alcohol | no, msn |
| 18:57.54 | abrotman | oh, NFC then |
| 18:58.13 | alcohol | me neither |
| 18:58.21 | alcohol | got weird messages from here, spotted them in debug |
| 18:58.28 | alcohol | but could never save debug in time :< |
| 18:58.30 | jpinx-eeepc | alcohol: crashy aunt ? :) |
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| 18:58.38 | alcohol | dunno |
| 18:59.37 | rvsjoen | jpinx-eeepc: it has an --output option I think |
| 18:59.37 | alcohol | annoying for sure. |
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| 19:00.23 | jpinx-eeepc | alcohol: there have been issues with pidgin/finch, but I moved to irssi and didn't keep up.. |
| 19:00.47 | jpinx-eeepc | rvsjoen: reading the man - thanks for th epointer ;) |
| 19:01.29 | alcohol | I use irssi <3 |
| 19:01.32 | alcohol | but only for irc |
| 19:01.33 | alcohol | o_O |
| 19:01.35 | jpinx-eeepc | alcohol: I also used gyachi - based on libpurple - and it was crashy |
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| 19:02.27 | alcohol | well I think it was libpurple related, not finch |
| 19:02.28 | jpinx-eeepc | alcohol: for msn messenger, amsn works well when I need th e"extras" ;) |
| 19:02.32 | alcohol | cause adium crashed too |
| 19:02.45 | alcohol | jpinx-eeepc: I only want a cli client for this laptop, so finch does fine |
| 19:03.03 | jpinx-eeepc | alcohol: yea - I remember someone saying that libpurple was a can of worms |
| 19:03.08 | macman_ | icebrain: or abrotman you there .. still someting i would like to know about alpine .. whe i click on folder list and go to my inbox i get a INBOX[/] i should have like INBOX[10/200] how do i get it to show how many are read and unread ? |
| 19:03.22 | macman_ | s/whe/when |
| 19:03.33 | jpinx-eeepc | alcohol: irssi and bitlbee then - it does just about eve4rything |
| 19:03.35 | abrotman | click ? |
| 19:04.17 | macman_ | abrotman: if that was for me yes i click it and of course i get messages .. just wondering why i just have INBOX[/] instead of INBOX[10/200] |
| 19:04.59 | abrotman | macman_: my 'pine' .. doesn't do that |
| 19:05.04 | abrotman | i don't think, never noticed |
| 19:05.20 | macman_ | abrotman: oh ok .. so you just go to inbox and check it |
| 19:05.35 | abrotman | macman_: i used old pine .. the real pine, not alpine .. |
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| 19:06.01 | macman_ | abrotman: i would use it also but when i tried to get it .. said it wasn't supported anymore |
| 19:06.13 | abrotman | yeah, this is an old system .. i wouldn't use it .. i don't admin the box |
| 19:06.14 | gp5st | how do i add one of the ubuntu ppa repos? specifically https://launchpad.net/~netbook-remix-team/+archive/ppa this one |
| 19:06.35 | gp5st | add-apt-repository isn't installed:-\ |
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| 19:06.49 | icebrain | macman_: my inbox shows only INBOX/, but there's a counter of the messages in inbox (read and unread) in the topright corner |
| 19:07.29 | cahoot | gp5st: try #ubuntu |
| 19:07.52 | gp5st | cahoot: but i'm on a debian box |
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| 19:09.30 | gp5st | I think i dound it |
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| 19:10.40 | gp5st | found* sorry it's a stupid day |
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| 19:11.14 | pflanze | Hello. I need an https server with a self-signed certificate for some quick testing, thanks if you point me to one. |
| 19:11.33 | dondelelcaro | pflanze: you can easily do that yourself with apache. |
| 19:11.43 | dondelelcaro | !self-signed ssl cert |
| 19:11.43 | dpkg | openssl genrsa 1024 > server.key; openssl req -new -key server.key -x509 -days 365 -out server.crt; Alternatively, use the make-ssl-cert utility from the ssl-cert package. |
| 19:11.52 | dondelelcaro | pflanze: see above for instructions on how to generate the cert |
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| 19:21.37 | NotADJ | I can't decide between openvz and vserver. Any suggestions? |
| 19:22.38 | pflanze | dondelelcaro: the certificate seems to have been the easy part, now configuring apache2 is even more complicated than apache 1 was |
| 19:23.09 | pflanze | If anyone can just give me a pointer to some already-configured server, thanks for telling me. |
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| 19:26.01 | riot | hmhm, i'm trying to install via an usb stick but my box (ix 38 quadgt) always says "boot error".. bios says it can boot from usb fdd / cdrom / [ls|zip].. how do i have to install the loader? |
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| 19:29.19 | dondelelcaro | pflanze: you just a2enmod ssl; configure a site which listens on 443 and has SSLEngine On, and load the certificate. It's pretty simple, and there are examples in the apache documentation of the ssl module |
| 19:29.51 | pflanze | dondelelcaro: I've now managed to configure it just a minute ago or two |
| 19:30.30 | pflanze | wget doesn't check certificates! |
| 19:30.40 | pflanze | unlike what it's manpage seems to suggest |
| 19:31.07 | pflanze | version from lenny, but also my buddy's newer wget seems to have the same problem. |
| 19:31.40 | pflanze | It checks whether the hostname matches, but not whether it can find a known/valid signature |
| 19:32.17 | pflanze | So giving it pem files seems to be a NOOP actually. |
| 19:32.57 | pflanze | fun is it says "certificate successfully verified" with --debug |
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| 19:34.11 | dondelelcaro | pflanze: uh... wget in lenny does check that the cert is signed by a valid CA for https sites |
| 19:34.46 | pflanze | So why does it say success when I direct it to localhost with my certificate I just created with the above directions? |
| 19:35.50 | pflanze | wget --ca-directory=/usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla --debug https://novo/ |
| 19:36.02 | pflanze | and an entry for novo in /etc/hosts directing to the local apache. |
| 19:36.14 | pflanze | Same thing without giving --ca-directory |
| 19:37.26 | pflanze | galeon *does* complain on https://novo/ |
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| 19:39.55 | infid | how can i print from the command line? isn't it 'cat bla.txt | lpr'? but that says 'lpr: Error - no default destination available'. I think i have to set $LPDEST or $PRINTER, but i'm not sure what to set them to |
| 19:41.19 | pflanze | links doesn't check them either; lynx does. |
| 19:41.43 | pflanze | w3m doesn't |
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| 19:42.08 | g00dtimes | !tell infid about cups |
| 19:42.14 | jpinx-eeepc | I have an external monitor plugged in and when I do xrandr -o 3 the internal monitor goes blank. xrandr -o 0 does not recover it. Any ideas anyone? |
| 19:42.50 | g00dtimes | infid: you are on the right track, you just need to setup a (default) printer |
| 19:45.32 | g00dtimes | !tell riot about usb-install |
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| 19:47.23 | infid | g00dtimes: i did set it as my default printer |
| 19:47.41 | infid | even the printer properties doesnt have a location set |
| 19:48.15 | abrotman | jpinx-eeepc: did you try the Fn output button instead ? |
| 19:49.05 | infid | is the location the hp:/usb/Deskjet_F4200_series?serial=CN... line from lpstat -t? |
| 19:49.26 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: yep - tried all the various buttons, and with Ctrl or Alt for good measure |
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| 19:51.27 | medivh_ | my kernel compilation process is still giving errors so I will re install the stable and try again. Can you point me to a good step by step guide |
| 19:52.35 | mischievious | medivh_, what kinds of errors are you encountering |
| 19:53.29 | medivh_ | mischievious, eventfd.h not found |
| 19:54.01 | techsupport | anyone familiar with OpenEMM ? Is it any good ? |
| 19:54.14 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: here's xrandr -q http://pastebin.com/d76ebb414 |
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| 19:56.31 | medivh_ | what packets should I have before starting kernel compilation? |
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| 19:57.04 | mischievious | medivh_, packets? lol |
| 19:57.10 | mischievious | medivh_, do you have the kernel header package |
| 19:57.14 | abrotman | jpinx-eeepc: no modes ofr the tv perhaps ? |
| 19:57.30 | medivh_ | mischievious, what is funny? |
| 19:57.46 | mischievious | im not sure what you mean by 'packet' in this context |
| 19:57.57 | medivh_ | mischievious, package |
| 19:58.45 | medivh_ | mischievious, I mean things like kernel-package, ncurses-dev, build-essential etc. |
| 19:59.26 | mischievious | medivh_, when i build kernels i usually use make-kpkg and it takes your config, compiles and throws everything in a .deb |
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| 19:59.38 | mischievious | and usually do all that without error |
| 19:59.58 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: not sure what the TV has to do with it, xrandr -q output was the same both before and after the issue arose |
| 20:00.08 | medivh_ | mischievious, I tried the same but It gave error about somethings are missing. So maybe I was missing sth. |
| 20:00.29 | mischievious | medivh_, do you have the proper kernel headers package |
| 20:00.49 | abrotman | jpinx-eeepc: did you try chanigng the output resolution after changing the output again ? |
| 20:00.59 | medivh_ | mischievious, hmm I use the source from kernel.org should I have my current kernel's headers installed? |
| 20:01.25 | mischievious | probably... you might have an easier time if you use debian-patched sources |
| 20:01.45 | medivh_ | mischievious, where can I get one which has version later than 2.6.31 |
| 20:01.49 | mischievious | medivh_, er, no, you dont need your running kernel's headers, you need the headers from the kernel you are building |
| 20:02.11 | mischievious | medivh_, im running 2.6.32 on my eee pc iirc |
| 20:02.26 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: the external screen reverted ok, but the internal one stayed blank |
| 20:02.58 | medivh_ | mischievious, that is the latest version if I not wrong I want that too for performance counters in kernel but couldnt manage to compile |
| 20:03.35 | medivh_ | now I have a clean stable installation and looking for a way to install 2.6.32 |
| 20:04.41 | mischievious | medivh_, what distrobutions do you have in your package sources? |
| 20:04.52 | mischievious | looking at sid right now, there is 2.6.32 available |
| 20:04.52 | medivh_ | lenny |
| 20:05.00 | mischievious | ah, that would be your problem |
| 20:05.19 | mischievious | squeeze currently has 2.6.30, and sid has 2.6.32 |
| 20:05.23 | simonrvn | 'distributions' |
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| 20:05.46 | medivh_ | mischievious, but for some other reason I want to keep compilers etc. as old as possible |
| 20:06.14 | medivh_ | mischievious, squeeze would be ok but 2.6.30 is not enough for me |
| 20:06.27 | mischievious | maybe you should install Damn Vulnerable Linux then, >.> |
| 20:06.43 | DogBoy | heh |
| 20:06.44 | medivh_ | mischievious, you mean unstable :) |
| 20:07.20 | mischievious | no.. i run sid with quite a bit of success :p |
| 20:08.04 | mischievious | it seems backports.org only has 2.6.30 for lenny as well |
| 20:08.29 | mischievious | medivh_, so you're telling me you want to compile a new kernel with an old compiler? |
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| 20:09.06 | medivh_ | mischievious, not exactly |
| 20:09.27 | medivh_ | mischievious, If there is possibility to install from deb that is also ok |
| 20:09.52 | medivh_ | mischievious, but I need to be able to install intel 5100 wifi driver and intel graphics driver |
| 20:10.22 | medivh_ | mischievious, I tried installing 2.6.32 from unstable but it broke my system |
| 20:10.55 | mischievious | lol |
| 20:11.13 | mischievious | did you install the modules as well? everything the kernel package depended on? |
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| 20:11.29 | medivh_ | hmm I think yes |
| 20:11.51 | medivh_ | but since I had a minimal install it was asking me like updating everything |
| 20:12.02 | medivh_ | so how can I call it stable anymore :) |
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| 20:12.15 | simonrvn | do or do not, there is no try -- yoda |
| 20:12.54 | lyakh | hi, having problem with squeeze on a SCSI-only system - no /dev/sd* nodes are created by udevd. a plugged in USB stick does create such nodes |
| 20:13.18 | lyakh | the disks work, the system uses one of them for root. if I create nodes manually I can use them |
| 20:13.25 | lyakh | any hints? |
| 20:14.13 | newsense | hmm i don't have also oss or pulse installed yet i have sound |
| 20:14.28 | newsense | what else is there for sound besides alsa oss and pulse ? |
| 20:14.57 | cahoot | pcspkr? |
| 20:15.04 | newsense | don't have ove |
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| 20:15.16 | newsense | though i do have a module for it |
| 20:15.22 | cahoot | so it's your harddisk moaning |
| 20:15.37 | newsense | can't be humming that tune :) |
| 20:15.43 | newsense | err moaning |
| 20:16.27 | cahoot | newsense: if you use a debian kernel chances are you actually have alsa in place |
| 20:16.43 | cahoot | newsense: cat /proc/asound/cards |
| 20:17.26 | newsense | hmm what's the alsa package for than ? |
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| 20:18.03 | cahoot | newsense: cat /proc/asound/cards returns anything? |
| 20:18.11 | newsense | cahoot: yeah my sound card |
| 20:18.20 | cahoot | mystery solved |
| 20:18.35 | newsense | i see looks like alsa-base provides config files for various drivers |
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| 20:18.40 | newsense | guess i don't need one |
| 20:19.13 | newsense | thanks cahoot, i thought i was going crazy, hearing sound but the mixer must be turned down cause i had to turn the tv off to bee sure i was hearing what i thought |
| 20:19.46 | brbrbr | mischievious as long as i read D www, squeeze was frozen with 2.6.32 kernel. im right ? p.s. so no 2.6.33, no xOrg 1.8, no Mesa 7.7 and many, many essential stuff |
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| 20:20.19 | mischievious | excuse me brabo ? |
| 20:20.21 | mischievious | brbrbr, * |
| 20:20.51 | brbrbr | *?, |
| 20:20.53 | cahoot | newsense: aural hallucinations tend to tkae precedence so no need to worry |
| 20:21.07 | newsense | haha |
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| 20:21.12 | mischievious | brbrbr, check the web-based package browser, there is 2.6.30 with squeeze and sid has 2.6.32 |
| 20:21.17 | brbrbr | you so experienced in that ? tnx 4 expertise |
| 20:21.20 | mischievious | i dont know about xorg or mesa |
| 20:21.43 | brbrbr | 2.6.30 ? ok, tnx |
| 20:22.20 | brbrbr | i should mail readed web article then. 2 fix this |
| 20:22.22 | mischievious | sure.. |
| 20:23.19 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: logging out and backin restored the internal monitor, what does that imply? something about xorg maybe? |
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| 20:24.10 | abrotman | someting about you rsettings |
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| 20:24.27 | lyakh | can it be that I missed some compatibility switch in kernel config? it's a self-compiled 2.6.32(.2) |
| 20:24.55 | RichiH | does anyone know if 2.6.32-trunk will be the only .32 release for debian? |
| 20:25.12 | abrotman | RichiH: i don't think it will be |
| 20:25.26 | jpinx-eeepc | abrotman: which settings? |
| 20:25.39 | themill | RichiH: the abi will change from "trunk" to "1" once they stop changing it with every upload. |
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| 20:27.10 | jpinx-eeepc | and when I run xrandr -q, only the external screen blanks while the queries are run, so it appears that the internal monitor is not queried |
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| 20:32.37 | Evet | how to make from source |
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| 20:40.54 | Josh__ | Anyone aware of a program I can use to forward / proxy UDP connections? |
| 20:41.17 | Evet | Josh__, iptables |
| 20:41.46 | Josh__ | from a remote host? |
| 20:42.27 | Evet | Josh__, never block ssh port |
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| 20:42.46 | jhutchins_lt | Josh__: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO |
| 20:43.13 | Josh__ | Thanks |
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| 20:50.44 | mischievious | Josh__, socat |
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| 20:52.03 | helo | is there a particularly "debian" way of doing port forwarding from the outside to the inside while running ipmasq? |
| 20:52.34 | valdyn | helo: you can "run" "ipmasq" ? |
| 20:52.39 | valdyn | !ipmasq |
| 20:52.40 | dpkg | If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), aptitude install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/ . The ipmasq package was removed from Debian post-Lenny to resolve bug #538384. |
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| 20:55.43 | alcohol | iptables > * |
| 20:55.50 | alcohol | helo: #netfilter |
| 20:56.10 | helo | valdyn: i'm running ipmasq as in "aptitude install ipmasq" |
| 20:57.46 | alcohol | helo: I think the most likely "nix" way is through iptables/ip |
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| 20:58.32 | robert_L_Straitt | hey, I'm having some problems with proftpd |
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| 20:59.00 | robert_L_Straitt | I've been perusing the manuals and cannot for the life of me figure out why it won't let me connect to the server |
| 20:59.21 | alcohol | robert_L_Straitt: interesting |
| 20:59.47 | robert_L_Straitt | the address is kfgeeks.com if you want to try and connect to see |
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| 21:00.11 | alcohol | eh, I suppose I could |
| 21:00.15 | alcohol | but why? |
| 21:00.22 | alabd | Hello which one of debian 5 and 6 you advice to download ? |
| 21:00.38 | alcohol | robert_L_Straitt: firewall? |
| 21:00.45 | robert_L_Straitt | allowing port 22 through |
| 21:00.50 | alcohol | uh |
| 21:00.52 | alcohol | 22 is ssh |
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| 21:00.54 | alcohol | and sftp |
| 21:00.56 | alcohol | not regular ftp |
| 21:00.57 | robert_L_Straitt | err 21 |
| 21:00.58 | robert_L_Straitt | sorry |
| 21:01.07 | gordonjcp | 20 and 21, surely |
| 21:01.09 | alcohol | using iptables? |
| 21:01.12 | alcohol | 20 is for passive |
| 21:01.14 | gordonjcp | you need both |
| 21:01.22 | gordonjcp | you should never, ever use FTP |
| 21:01.28 | alcohol | 21 and ctstate RELATED,ESTABLISHED is sufficient |
| 21:01.39 | alcohol | stfp > * imho |
| 21:01.54 | gordonjcp | unless it's between two machines on the same network segment and neither the FTP client or server is exposed to any "unknown" machines |
| 21:02.15 | brbrbr | what called new Debian initscript subsystem ? p.s. sry i forgot :/ |
| 21:02.15 | alcohol | robert_L_Straitt: using iptables? |
| 21:02.23 | alcohol | brbrbr: huh? |
| 21:02.23 | alabd | and how to download it ? which server ? maybe it's required to stop and start downloading in some days , which server and which protcol you advice ? |
| 21:02.35 | brbrbr | something from "u" letter :/ |
| 21:02.45 | alcohol | alabd: if you're on a slow connection, try a torrent image |
| 21:02.45 | robert_L_Straitt | alcohol, not yet, the site isn't live |
| 21:02.51 | pflanze | I need a certificate with hash 58546a39; galeon says it's "VeriSign Trust Network" |
| 21:02.53 | robert_L_Straitt | and is just in proof stages |
| 21:02.54 | alcohol | robert_L_Straitt: ? |
| 21:03.05 | pflanze | how do I find it on the computer? |
| 21:03.07 | alabd | alcohol: 128 KB |
| 21:03.19 | pflanze | where do the browsers look for certificates? |
| 21:03.25 | alcohol | alabd: I'd get a netinstall image |
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| 21:03.47 | alabd | alcohol: whatnetinstall's the differnce ? |
| 21:03.58 | pflanze | there's no -i 'VeriSign.*Trust.*Network' on my machine |
| 21:04.16 | alcohol | alabd: netinstall is a minimal cd image containing only basic passages. |
| 21:04.42 | alabd | passages = packages ? |
| 21:04.57 | alabd | alcohol: we can download dvd 1 for now |
| 21:05.08 | alabd | what's the problem ? |
| 21:05.09 | alcohol | robert_L_Straitt: when I connect I get error 421, service not available, remote server has closed connection |
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| 21:05.33 | brbrbr | 1st DVD ? we can't in case of squeeze/sid |
| 21:05.40 | robert_L_Straitt | yes, that's the error I get, but proftpd is running |
| 21:06.03 | alcohol | brbrbr: I don't understand you |
| 21:06.17 | alcohol | robert_L_Straitt: enable debug loggin |
| 21:06.32 | robert_L_Straitt | but I've bumped into another problem, after re-installing proftp it has disappeared from init.d |
| 21:06.36 | alcohol | robert_L_Straitt: but personally I'd remove proftpd |
| 21:06.45 | robert_L_Straitt | which server would you use? |
| 21:07.00 | alcohol | sshd |
| 21:07.02 | alcohol | sftp |
| 21:07.47 | robert_L_Straitt | I'll give it a shot |
| 21:07.51 | brbrbr | same issue with resolvconf and unbound packages |
| 21:08.12 | brbrbr | p.s. inconsistent initscrip alteration |
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| 21:08.26 | brbrbr | p.s. in 5.0.x |
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| 21:09.14 | pflanze | Which certificate files are being used by the mozilla based browsers? |
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| 21:12.14 | tonsofpcs | so I was installing blender and it failed... I now have two packages (blender and python2.4-minimal) in "very bad state". On purge attempt, both throw errors "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" and "subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1". Is there a way to clean up this dpkg issue? |
| 21:12.34 | cemc | Setting kernel variables (/etc/sysctl.d/bindv6only.conf)...error: "net.ipv6.bindv6only" is an unknown key - is there any workaround/solution for this yet? |
| 21:15.31 | alabd | alcohol: what is your opinion about downloading 1 st dvd of squeez now ? |
| 21:15.55 | alabd | which server and which protocol you advice ? |
| 21:16.08 | alabd | ftp http ? |
| 21:16.16 | alabd | torrent ? |
| 21:16.23 | alcohol | torrent for slow connection |
| 21:16.24 | brbrbr | anyone tested backported[from "backports" repo] 2.6.30.x on Lenny distro ? |
| 21:16.42 | alcohol | why squeeze? squeeze is testing, lenny is stable |
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| 21:17.01 | sivel | hey guys, trying to install libssl-dev and getting "libssl-dev: Depends: libssl0.9.8 (= 0.9.8g-15+lenny3) but 0.9.8g-15+lenny5 is to be installed" |
| 21:17.04 | sivel | any ideas |
| 21:17.15 | sivel | apt-get update doesn't resolve it |
| 21:17.26 | alcohol | use aptitude |
| 21:17.35 | alcohol | it's cleaner |
| 21:17.42 | alabd | squeez will be stable in month later and we can update it that time alcohol |
| 21:17.43 | alcohol | (not that it will solve your issue) |
| 21:17.50 | sivel | alcohol: trying that now |
| 21:17.54 | h3xis | alcohol: how is aptitude cleaner than apt? |
| 21:17.55 | sivel | it is offering a solution |
| 21:17.56 | alcohol | squeeze stable in a month? |
| 21:18.02 | alcohol | !why aptitude |
| 21:18.02 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often be able to come up with a solution where apt-get just gives up. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). Like apt-get, it can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line or at the Y/n/q/? prompt using its interactive resolver, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
| 21:18.12 | oggei | moin |
| 21:18.19 | alabd | alcohol: yes |
| 21:18.21 | alcohol | oggei: mornin' |
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| 21:18.39 | brbrbr | aptitude ?wiht "fixemall" switch or something like, i guess |
| 21:18.40 | roe_ | does anyone currently employ a *good*, preferably packaged, dhcpd reporting tool? |
| 21:18.43 | oggei | hey alcohol |
| 21:19.37 | alabd | alcohol: and do you think squeez has big differnece in stability with lenny ?? |
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| 21:20.23 | alcohol | dunno |
| 21:20.27 | alcohol | I'm fine with lenny though |
| 21:21.54 | alabd | alcohol: but if lenny be downloaded upgarding it to squeez stable will get more packages , wont it ? |
| 21:21.56 | brbrbr | even if you have one thing , which you value anyway, on host - stick with stable releases. anyway else you can experiment of course |
| 21:22.28 | alabd | brbrbr: it's home pc |
| 21:23.03 | roe_ | what is squeez stable? |
| 21:23.14 | alcohol | no |
| 21:23.31 | alcohol | squeeze is still testing to my knowledge |
| 21:23.40 | alabd | alcohol: yes |
| 21:24.13 | brbrbr | home pc can contain vuluable[to indvidual only]content. so you should weight risks carefuly |
| 21:24.51 | brbrbr | if you have some extra content - try backports repository |
| 21:25.03 | alcohol | servers often contain even more valuable data |
| 21:25.13 | alcohol | I prefer stable + backports :> |
| 21:25.14 | brbrbr | or even 3rd-party debian multimedia repository. p.s. they need donations btw |
| 21:25.18 | alabd | but will upgrading lenny stable to squeez stable the same volume as squeez testing to squeez stable ? |
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| 21:26.02 | alcohol | oh you mean, install lenny now, wait for squeeze to become stable, then move to squeeze with a full-upgrade? |
| 21:26.02 | brbrbr | alabd ? HOW you upgrade Stable to testing ? |
| 21:26.31 | brbrbr | oh, you talk about "apt-get -upgrade-dist" or something ? |
| 21:26.38 | brbrbr | its usually works |
| 21:26.53 | alabd | alcohol: yes |
| 21:27.01 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 21:27.07 | brbrbr | just wait 4 end of 2010 spring[appx] to squeeze launch |
| 21:27.17 | robert_L_Straitt | okay so when I go to restart proftd I get Failed to start FTP server : You cannot start the server daemon when in inetd mode. |
| 21:27.58 | alcohol | brbrbr: upgrade-dist is deprecated in lenny |
| 21:28.04 | brbrbr | oh |
| 21:28.10 | brbrbr | bookmarked |
| 21:28.36 | jelly-home | wtf is "upgrade-dist"! |
| 21:28.40 | alabd | will upgrading lenny stable to squeez stable the same volume as squeez testing to squeez stable ? alcohol ? |
| 21:28.52 | helo | jelly-home: he said it is deprecated |
| 21:28.57 | brbrbr | something as replacement ? like [nearly]magical "gimmesomethingnew --stable" ? ;) |
| 21:29.03 | alabd | will upgrading lenny stable to squeez stable get the same volume of packages as squeez testing to squeez stable ? alcohol |
| 21:29.33 | jelly-home | helo: I mean, I've never heard of that before. |
| 21:29.36 | alcohol | uh I don't know |
| 21:29.52 | adb | alabd, squeeze stable doesn't exist ...yet |
| 21:30.20 | alcohol | it's dist-upgrade |
| 21:30.21 | alcohol | x: |
| 21:30.34 | alabd | adb: but it will come later |
| 21:30.35 | alcohol | and safe-upgrade |
| 21:31.03 | adb | alabd, so do that ... later |
| 21:31.37 | alabd | adb: humble am asking to know if the volume is the same or not |
| 21:31.48 | alabd | any opinion ? |
| 21:32.00 | adb | volume off what ? |
| 21:32.06 | adb | of* |
| 21:32.19 | alabd | (12:58:02 AM) alabd: will upgrading lenny stable to squeez stable get the same volume of packages as squeez testing to squeez stable ? alcohol |
| 21:32.23 | brbrbr | he mean about amounts of traffic, i guess |
| 21:32.41 | jelly-home | alabd: what is your native language? |
| 21:32.58 | brbrbr | 1st you should remove all 3rd- side installed stuff. then fix FS to sure. then update current state and THEN try IT |
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| 21:38.09 | alabd | how much will lenny stable to squeez stable upgarding get packages ? |
| 21:39.26 | brbrbr | "how much" ? in what ? |
| 21:39.36 | brbrbr | in percents ? in Gigabytes ? |
| 21:39.53 | brbrbr | both about stability and size |
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| 21:41.13 | brbrbr | answer usually was "same at least", but some side-effect can happen. especially in case of interferences with upgrade, such as power failure and or Nature cataclysms[such as WWIII and etc] |
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| 21:42.40 | abrotman | alabd: depends on what you have installed, we cannot know that |
| 21:43.03 | alabd | abrotman: base packages |
| 21:43.05 | alabd | can be torrent downloads be stopped and started until be finished ? |
| 21:43.36 | gordonjcp | yes |
| 21:45.03 | alabd | thanks |
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| 21:47.01 | riot | well, i put up some forensics to analyze the HUGE fuckup my debian did this morning: suspend to disk killed my root partition (instead of writing to the swap-partition...) |
| 21:47.14 | riot | not nice :( |
| 21:47.25 | brbrbr | alabd base packages was about ~200 Mb if i remember correctly. or if you mean "basic desktop" was about 8 Gb with about 2-7 Gb's yo downloads |
| 21:47.26 | alabd | what is best server of torrent download of squeez dvds ? |
| 21:47.48 | abrotman | it is not 8GB |
| 21:47.56 | brbrbr | alabd enumerated at debian.org |
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| 21:48.57 | riot | is there a way to generate a --gen-selections from some data in /var/* ? (thats all i have left + homes, tmp and boot) |
| 21:49.11 | abrotman | alabd: use the netinst, not the torrents |
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| 21:49.49 | alabd | abrotman: what kind is netinst ? |
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| 21:50.09 | jelly-home | riot: /var/lib/dpkg is the dpkg database, if you have that, you have the old package states. |
| 21:50.37 | riot | jelly-home: ok, thanks. I can instruct dpkg to operate on that file temporarily? |
| 21:50.42 | riot | *reads manpage* |
| 21:50.45 | alabd | abrotman: and why not torrent ? |
| 21:50.50 | abrotman | alabd: it's a waste ... |
| 21:50.56 | abrotman | alabd: for which architecutre ? |
| 21:51.29 | alabd | will netinstall install it directly on system fro net ? abrotman i386 |
| 21:51.34 | alcohol | abrotman: we advised torrent because he says he has a very slow connection and wants to be able to pause and resume |
| 21:51.39 | alcohol | alabd: yes |
| 21:51.50 | riot | ah, yes.. dpkg --admindir=/foo/bar and the thing rolls. nice. |
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| 21:52.27 | abrotman | alcohol: the netinst is better |
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| 21:52.34 | alcohol | ok :) |
| 21:52.38 | alabd | abrotman: why ? |
| 21:52.43 | alcohol | it's still a rather large image though |
| 21:52.50 | alcohol | isn't the netinstall available as a torrent? |
| 21:52.55 | abrotman | alcohol: he can grab the netinst .. then install packages as he sees fit .. such as installing xorg one day .. then a minimal WM, then sometihng larger .. as time permits |
| 21:53.10 | abrotman | alcohol: sure .. but i doubt that's what you're having him DL .. and wget can resume an http anyways |
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| 21:53.23 | alcohol | I aint having him download anything |
| 21:53.30 | alcohol | my initial advice was netinstall through torrent |
| 21:53.39 | alcohol | but that was nearly an hour ago |
| 21:53.56 | alcohol | since then he's been asking a lot of questions I couldn't quite make sense of :> |
| 21:54.28 | abrotman | maybe ask him what his native language is? |
| 21:55.00 | alcohol | we did that |
| 21:55.11 | alcohol | I wasn't paying attention the whole time though :> |
| 21:56.06 | alabd | alcohol: abrotman no good debian native channel 2 - humble dont want to install it directly from net |
| 21:56.31 | Meskalyn | how can I strip color for a ./script_with_color > output.txt |
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| 21:57.58 | abrotman | alabd: it's really a more efficient use of your bandwidth |
| 22:00.44 | alcohol | alabd: I agree with abrotman |
| 22:00.45 | alabd | alcohol: how is torrent ? humble did not use it yet , after adding should not it start downloading? |
| 22:00.54 | alcohol | humble? |
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| 22:01.01 | alabd | abrotman: what do you mean of efficient ? |
| 22:01.03 | alcohol | I don't know humble, sorry |
| 22:01.26 | alcohol | alabd: what do you want to do with your install? server? desktop? |
| 22:01.34 | alabd | alcohol: desktop |
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| 22:02.14 | abrotman | netinst .. |
| 22:02.24 | alabd | have not used torrent yet , after adding should not it start downloading? how download will be started ? |
| 22:02.52 | alabd | abrotman: why do you advice it ? it's not required to install directly |
| 22:03.39 | abrotman | it will give you a basic CLI install |
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| 22:04.50 | alabd | is there any compressed .iso file that is less than 4.4 GB ? |
| 22:05.13 | Supaplex | alabd: why not use netinst? |
| 22:05.31 | Supaplex | oh my bad. abrotman mentioned that already. |
| 22:05.57 | abrotman | alabd: use the freaking netinst |
| 22:06.06 | Supaplex | but I doubt you're installing all the packages off the iso. may as well go with netinst and install the stuff you do want. |
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| 22:06.45 | Supaplex | I can't wait until people start asking for the bluray iso and we still suggest.... netinst. :) |
| 22:06.51 | oreoh | hey guys could someone tell me what i'm doing wrong http://bin.paste.ca/388kdk284.html |
| 22:06.52 | alabd | abrotman: Supaplex how to say ? it is require to download debian for now not to install it |
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| 22:07.31 | Supaplex | alabd: so you want to download it now, and install it some other day? |
| 22:08.07 | alabd | Supaplex: yes |
| 22:08.58 | adb | Supaplex, there are linux bluray iso ? |
| 22:09.03 | Supaplex | alabd: and when you finally decide to install it, will that system have network access? |
| 22:09.32 | alabd | Supaplex: maybe no |
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| 22:09.54 | alabd | also here internet speed is 128 KB |
| 22:10.08 | abrotman | that's fine |
