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| 04:43.45 | Arrowmaster | so the text in QT apps just shrunk on me |
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| 05:09.08 | nike | I am very scared I lost 5-6TiB of data on my RAID-5 array managed with mdadm and 6 2TB HDDs |
| 05:09.11 | nike | http://pastebin.ca/1757042 |
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| 05:09.45 | nike | I should be able to see a LVM2 logical volume on the array, but lvdisplay (and pvdisplay for that matter) don't recognise the array as having anything LVM-related on them. |
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| 05:10.32 | nike | This started when one of the drives, originally sdb, was unplugged. I shut down, plugged it back in, and then I noticed that sdf was a spare instead of active. I don't know why it changed from sdb to sdf |
| 05:10.59 | nike | Furthermore I remember seeing sda1, sdb1, sdc1, sdd1, sde1, and sdf1 in /dev/ and the array was made of those 6 |
| 05:11.27 | nike | but after rebooting, mdadm makes it out of sda, sdb, sdc, sdd, sde, and sdf and I can't even see the partitions in /dev, although dmesg shows them and so does fdisk -l |
| 05:12.01 | nike | How can I save my array? I am scared shitless of doing something wrong, as it looks in a very bad state right now. |
| 05:12.03 | mobidev | hi to all |
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| 05:13.55 | WormFood | why does "apache2 -S" give me a "apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER}" error/warning? it is a fresh install, and it appears to in fact be working |
| 05:14.20 | nike | dondelelcaro: If you know about mdadm and software RAID I would love your aid. |
| 05:14.40 | Cozminsky | WormFood, this from /etc/init.d/apache2? |
| 05:14.57 | WormFood | command line |
| 05:15.18 | WormFood | when I restarted apache2 through /etc/init.d, it appears to work fine, and give no errors/warnings |
| 05:16.28 | Cozminsky | presumably because envvars:export APACHE_RUN_USER=www-data wasn't set |
| 05:16.46 | WormFood | it is set |
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| 05:17.10 | WormFood | set in /etc/apache2/envvars, the place they tell you to set it |
| 05:17.43 | WormFood | I didn't change it |
| 05:17.52 | Cozminsky | yeah, but the init script invokes the source /etc/apache2/envvars |
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| 05:18.08 | Cozminsky | when you run /usr/sbin/apache2 you don't automatically get that |
| 05:18.10 | WormFood | ok, that would explain it |
| 05:18.15 | WormFood | right, I understand perfectly |
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| 05:21.10 | deltaflyer4747 | Hi there, is there anyone able and willing to help me with dpkg-buildpackage of mysql trouble on deb lenny? |
| 05:23.08 | deltaflyer4747 | i am unable to pass it through tests, all of them returned "ERROR: Failed to start master mysqld 0", i've tried -rfakeroot and -rsudo but no help. |
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| 05:24.52 | deltaflyer4747 | source code taken from apt-get source mysql-common, i've also ran apt-get build-dep mysql-common |
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| 05:26.43 | PiklesOnFire | I'm having an issue getting alsa up and running, when i try to run "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" i get: http://pastebin.com/m6255241 |
| 05:29.24 | deltaflyer4747 | cat /proc/asound/cards ? |
| 05:30.04 | deltaflyer4747 | or rather all of /proc/asound ? |
| 05:30.21 | PiklesOnFire | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:30.22 | PiklesOnFire | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:30.43 | deltaflyer4747 | usb |
| 05:30.59 | PiklesOnFire | blegh, any idea how i change the default to the non usb? |
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| 05:31.27 | deltaflyer4747 | so then CONFIG_USB_EHCI_TT_NEWSCHED in kernel is on i pressume |
| 05:31.58 | PiklesOnFire | i'm going to assume so? how do i check? lol |
| 05:32.18 | deltaflyer4747 | well, i am affraid that your system do not see onboard soundcard. |
| 05:32.29 | deltaflyer4747 | do you see it with lspci ? |
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| 05:32.56 | PiklesOnFire | si |
| 05:33.28 | TIMiDo | ?? |
| 05:33.36 | deltaflyer4747 | could you paste that line there with lspci -nn ? |
| 05:34.00 | deltaflyer4747 | my question:> is there anyone able and willing to help me with dpkg-buildpackage of mysql trouble on deb lenny? |
| 05:34.44 | PiklesOnFire | http://pastebin.com/m3a98dd49 - full output of lspci -nn |
| 05:34.51 | PiklesOnFire | and i'm willing to try and help ;p |
| 05:35.19 | deltaflyer4747 | i am unable to pass it through tests, all of them returned "ERROR: Failed to start master mysqld 0", i've tried -rfakeroot and -rsudo but no help. |
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| 05:39.37 | deltaflyer4747 | PiklesOnFire: give me lsmod |
| 05:41.27 | PiklesOnFire | http://pastebin.com/m39bb9230 |
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| 05:42.07 | PiklesOnFire | deltaflyer4747: i'm not too familiar with mysql, i've used it, and i've set it up, but never seen that message :x but i am looking and consulting some others for help to see if i can find anything useful for you |
| 05:42.55 | deltaflyer4747 | PiklesOnFire: maybe wont be necessary, coleague just maybe found a solution |
| 05:43.07 | PiklesOnFire | ah sweet |
| 05:43.21 | deltaflyer4747 | and for you... i see you have the necessary module loaded... |
| 05:43.52 | PiklesOnFire | mmhm, i'm thinking i just need to unplug my usb soundcard... but it's also a usb hub. lol |
| 05:43.53 | deltaflyer4747 | try rmmod snd_hda_intel&&modprobe snd_hda_intel&&alsaconf |
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| 05:45.57 | PiklesOnFire | kk, doing it now. thanks for your help btw :] |
| 05:47.37 | deltaflyer4747 | np |
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| 05:58.18 | alabd | Hello , after downloading netinst .iso file that is ~ 150 MB from here http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/ , but now it is 4.4 GB what does it mean ? |
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| 06:02.54 | darkfune1al | how can i get my document to print in landscape mode, here is the command i'm using to print, and changing to -o landscape doesn't work: lp -d pdf -P 1-8 -o portrait -o media=letter -o number-up=4 "$@" |
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| 06:03.56 | deltaflyer4747 | alabd: what do you mean it is 4.4GB? on your drive? Or where? |
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| 06:05.07 | alabd | deltaflyer4747: it was a mistake |
| 06:05.13 | deltaflyer4747 | ok |
| 06:05.40 | alabd | when a dvd is burnned not compeletly and stopped in burn process can it be used again ? |
| 06:05.59 | deltaflyer4747 | stoped by abort ? |
| 06:06.08 | deltaflyer4747 | no |
| 06:07.38 | alabd | deltaflyer4747: cancled by me |
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| 06:07.48 | deltaflyer4747 | if you have written a pit on a media and not properly closed the track, you wont be able to re-use it for writing and if there is not useful data, well... you have nice saucer |
| 06:08.01 | deltaflyer4747 | saucer it is :) |
| 06:08.08 | h00k | what be the best way to upgrade from lenny to sid? I'm a debian noob. |
| 06:08.37 | h00k | would it just be changing it in /etc/apt/sources.lst? |
| 06:09.23 | alabd | deltaflyer4747: what do you mean of properly ? it was cancled by me at first percents |
| 06:09.45 | deltaflyer4747 | is there anything written on the media? |
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| 06:11.56 | alabd | deltaflyer4747: when dvd inserted > Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'Debian 5.0.3 i386 Bin-1'. |
| 06:12.40 | deltaflyer4747 | alabd: thats not what i am asking... i asked if there is anything on the media... eg like a hair wide track |
| 06:13.36 | alabd | deltaflyer4747: humble inserted it to see what you want |
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| 06:16.49 | PiklesOnFire | hey, idr who helped me in here w. my sound, but i got it working. if you're still having a mysql issue i'll be glad to help if i can |
| 06:17.41 | deltaflyer4747 | glad to hear that |
| 06:18.04 | deltaflyer4747 | alabd: if there is a byte written on the media and you have canceled it, you have saucer... |
| 06:18.37 | deltaflyer4747 | PiklesOnFire: so it worked ? |
| 06:18.48 | deltaflyer4747 | PiklesOnFire: or was it something else |
| 06:18.56 | PiklesOnFire | deltaflyer4747: nope, i unplugged the damn usb hub and all was good again |
| 06:19.18 | deltaflyer4747 | :D |
| 06:19.33 | deltaflyer4747 | god damnit |
| 06:20.05 | PiklesOnFire | i have 2 hubs, so i just plugged errything from the one into the second one, and said eff it to the one wiff a sound card. i'll get it working eventually tho |
| 06:20.19 | deltaflyer4747 | :) |
| 06:20.48 | deltaflyer4747 | well, mysql is now someone else's job, but now i need to know how do i change revision number for dpkg-buildpackage |
| 06:22.45 | PiklesOnFire | you mean like, change the revision number of the package it builds, correct? |
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| 06:24.32 | darkfune1al | how can i get my document to print in landscape mode, here is the command i'm using to print, and changing to -o landscape doesn't work: lp -d pdf -P 1-8 -o portrait -o media=letter -o number-up=4 "$@" |
| 06:24.58 | deltaflyer4747 | PiklesOnFire: yep |
| 06:25.49 | PiklesOnFire | deltaflyer4747: tbh, i have no frekkin clue. lol. i'd assume you would just change the name of the output to reflect your changed rev number, but again, idk |
| 06:26.01 | deltaflyer4747 | PiklesOnFire: np, i maybe found it ... |
| 06:26.15 | PiklesOnFire | deltaflyer4747: if you did find, plz share, i'm curious now ;p |
| 06:26.43 | deltaflyer4747 | mod /debian/control in the directory what is extracted wia apt-get source |
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| 06:27.59 | deltaflyer4747 | *via |
| 06:29.23 | PiklesOnFire | ah, good to know :] |
| 06:29.28 | Gm4n | if I just edited /etc/network/interfaces, how can I get the system to re-read? /etc/init.d/networking restart doesn't work :( |
| 06:29.39 | PiklesOnFire | i'm on arch, but i still like to learn all i can about debian. lo.l |
| 06:29.41 | PiklesOnFire | lol* |
| 06:30.10 | nsadmin | Gm4n: "doesn't work"? |
| 06:30.22 | Gm4n | well, I don't see the new interface that I just added |
| 06:30.46 | PiklesOnFire | any error messages or output? |
| 06:30.49 | nsadmin | what errors do you see when you run that command? |
| 06:30.59 | Gm4n | just "Reconfiguring network interfaces...done." |
| 06:31.12 | nsadmin | so, basically no output |
| 06:31.13 | Gm4n | and it didn't even kick me off (I'm in via ssh) |
| 06:31.39 | Gm4n | I suppose that means my interfaces file is wrong |
| 06:32.13 | nsadmin | did you read the docs on the interfaces file? |
| 06:32.13 | Gm4n | (I checked interfaces with an ifconfig -a afterwards and didn't see my new interface eth0:1) |
| 06:32.44 | deltaflyer4747 | gm4n: haven't you forgot to add the new iface into the "auto" line, right? |
| 06:32.47 | Gm4n | I did read the docs, yes. I assumed that I restarted the wrong thing |
| 06:32.56 | Gm4n | oops, good catch deltaflyer4747 =) |
| 06:33.15 | nsadmin | try ifup eth0:1 |
| 06:33.48 | deltaflyer4747 | mine problem too, i have big ####STICKER#### in the configfile :D |
| 06:33.53 | Gm4n | it's back after adding the auto |
| 06:34.12 | Gm4n | *it's there, although it warns about "if-up.d/mountnfs[eth0]: waiting for interface eth0:1 before doing NFS mounts (warning)." during restart |
| 06:34.30 | deltaflyer4747 | restart nfs then ;) |
| 06:34.47 | deltaflyer4747 | but... it is only warning |
| 06:34.50 | deltaflyer4747 | so no harm |
| 06:34.56 | Gm4n | I'm not using NFS, that's why I'm a tad confused |
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| 06:35.08 | deltaflyer4747 | well, then forget about it |
| 06:35.16 | Gm4n | ok, perfect |
| 06:36.00 | Gm4n | thanks, guys! |
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| 06:36.27 | PovAddict | does aptitude support debtag searching? |
| 06:36.59 | nsadmin | so give man 5 interfaces another read, and find the pieces of your issue (I guess mainly the auto line) and also find something you didn't know before |
| 06:37.34 | deltaflyer4747 | anyone knows how to edit revision number for apache under dpkg-buildpackage ? |
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| 06:39.40 | mohan43u | is openoffice.org packge really openoffice in debian? or go-oo.org? |
| 06:40.18 | mohan43u | justnow installed openoffice.org, wondering whether it was sun's openoffice or novell's go-oo? |
| 06:40.24 | PiklesOnFire | mohan43u: it's really openoffice. |
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| 06:41.09 | PovAddict | PiklesOnFire: funny, go-oo.org website says "Debian provides Go-OO in their repositories. To install it just type as root: apt-get install openoffice.org" |
| 06:41.15 | PiklesOnFire | asdlfah blegh, NO, i was wrong |
| 06:41.17 | PiklesOnFire | lol |
| 06:41.33 | deltaflyer4747 | anyone knows how to edit revision number for apache under dpkg-buildpackage ? |
| 06:41.42 | mohan43u | PiklesOnFire: But package details have http://www.go-oo.org as its Home:? |
| 06:41.45 | mohan43u | why? |
| 06:41.45 | deltaflyer4747 | PiklesOnFire: (didn't work) |
| 06:41.59 | PiklesOnFire | yeah, PovAddict i was just reading that. but i had read some where else that it was sun's open office. |
| 06:42.08 | infid | does linux not use the af_packet module anymore? i dont see it in lsmod anymore |
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| 06:43.04 | mohan43u | PiklesOnFire: But it look really like Sun's OpenOffice.org 3.1.1..:) |
| 06:43.24 | openros | I couldnt change system time |
| 06:43.27 | don_martino | can i set the title of an xterm while i'm in irssi? if yes, how? |
| 06:43.30 | openros | in my debian lenny |
| 06:43.40 | infid | don_martino: there's a script for that on irssi.org |
| 06:43.55 | don_martino | infid: nice, i'll go looking for it :-) |
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| 06:44.46 | infid | i think it was called title.pl |
| 06:46.20 | don_martino | found it. |
| 06:47.11 | openros | unable to change debian lenny system time please help |
| 06:47.34 | pat|nG | is there any debian channel that tackles more on terminology? |
| 06:47.42 | pat|nG | or any distros? |
| 06:48.42 | don_martino | pat|nG: terminology? as in xterm vs Eterm or as in "it's GNU, use capital letters, damn it"? |
| 06:49.02 | PiklesOnFire | pat|nG: what don_martino said. lulz |
| 06:50.17 | don_martino | infid: ah, the script works just fine :-) |
| 06:51.30 | infid | sweet |
| 06:51.39 | pat|nG | just lookin for terms used in l*nux distros |
| 06:52.40 | don_martino | man term |
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| 06:52.42 | don_martino | *scnr* |
| 06:53.14 | don_martino | sorry, had two coffee but no breakfast so far |
| 06:54.09 | PiklesOnFire | pat|nG: look up the l33t hax0r handbook :p |
| 06:54.10 | PiklesOnFire | jk |
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| 06:55.08 | don_martino | you mean h4nd800|< ? |
| 06:55.38 | don_martino | ok, i'll shut up now |
| 06:56.02 | PiklesOnFire | tbc. it's l337 h4x0r h4ndb00k. real book. i can't believe anyone would buy it tho |
| 06:57.48 | PiklesOnFire | don_martino: how are you this morning? :p |
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| 07:04.53 | darkfune1al | what's " -- MARK -- " in /var/log/messages mean? |
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| 07:07.34 | Cozminsky | darkfune1al, I think it's something syslog puts out periodically |
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| 07:08.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | darkfune1al, that it's a mark? :) |
| 07:08.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | if you look, you see there's one every 20 minutes |
| 07:09.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... so if the machine crashes, you'll know when it did so |
| 07:09.59 | darkfune1al | can it be disabled/enabled? i've never seen this before .. |
| 07:11.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | why would you want to, though... |
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| 07:12.44 | darkfune1al | because its not necessary |
| 07:13.36 | PiklesOnFire | you could write a bash script to remove it and have it in cron every 21 mins ;p |
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| 07:14.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... so is the cover on the steering-wheel of your car |
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| 07:14.34 | PiklesOnFire | who uses sterring wheels? :p |
| 07:15.16 | TIMiDo | which one is the debian translator channel? |
| 07:17.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't think there is one... just #debian-<countrycode> for the various languages |
| 07:21.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | darkfune1al, http://ln-s.net/4qpy |
| 07:23.40 | darkfune1al | thanks! |
| 07:24.18 | DarkHack | k, I asked this earlier, but forgot to look for a response, why is it that debian 5 lenny has an outdated pidgin? |
| 07:24.53 | valdyn | !stable |
| 07:24.54 | dpkg | [stable] The status of a Debian release when no packages will be added or new versions introduced, and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Lenny (5.0); ask me about <releases>. Security bugs are fixed in stable by backporting the fix to the current version (ask me about <security backports>). http://wiki.debian.org/DebianStable |
| 07:24.54 | PiklesOnFire | DarkHack: what do you mean by outdated? |
| 07:25.05 | DarkHack | well |
| 07:25.19 | valdyn | DarkHack: ^^^ and newer pidgin is at backports.org |
| 07:25.34 | DarkHack | valdyn I have to lenny-backports |
| 07:25.39 | DarkHack | -to |
| 07:25.50 | DarkHack | #############################debian lenny backports############################## |
| 07:25.51 | DarkHack | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:25.51 | DarkHack | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:26.21 | DarkHack | yet, still running Pidgin 2.4.3 |
| 07:26.34 | DarkHack | when it is what now? 2.6.* |
| 07:26.38 | valdyn | judd: versions pidgin |
| 07:27.10 | valdyn | DarkHack: so install the version from backports.org |
| 07:28.35 | DarkHack | Filename: pool/main/p/pidgin/pidgin_2.4.3-4lenny4_i386.deb |
| 07:28.39 | DarkHack | only one that comes up |
| 07:28.52 | valdyn | DarkHack: comes up where? |
| 07:29.01 | valdyn | DarkHack: did you read the instructions at backports.org ? |
| 07:29.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd?! |
| 07:29.21 | DarkHack | yes, maybe I missed something though |
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| 07:29.33 | DarkHack | double checks |
| 07:29.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | pidgin | 2.6.4-1~bpo50+1 | http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main Packages |
| 07:29.48 | DarkHack | blah |
| 07:29.53 | valdyn | DarkHack: aptitude update ; aptitude -t lenny-backports install pidgin |
| 07:30.06 | DarkHack | o |
| 07:30.10 | DarkHack | I been using apt-get |
| 07:30.11 | DarkHack | -.- |
| 07:30.13 | DarkHack | lol |
| 07:30.22 | valdyn | DarkHack: that does not make a difference for this |
| 07:30.27 | DarkHack | o |
| 07:30.27 | DarkHack | okay |
| 07:30.55 | DarkHack | All backports are deactivated by default (i.e. the packages are pinned to 1 by using NotAutomatic: yes in the Release files, just as in experimental). If you want to install something from backports run: |
| 07:30.56 | DarkHack | k |
| 07:30.59 | DarkHack | that's what I missed |
| 07:31.01 | DarkHack | ty |
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| 07:59.27 | linuxguy2009 | Ok lets say that I want to test out a bunch of stuff from the repos or even just build a deb from source and have to install a bunch of build deps.Is there a simple way to take a snapshot of the list of installed packages before I start, and then later be able to feed that list back to debian to add and remove packages to bring the system back to the previouse state of installed packages so that I dont have lots of stuff sitting around |
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| 08:05.45 | d1b | !reinstall |
| 08:05.45 | dpkg | reinstall is, like, aptitude reinstall '~i' ; or COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > my_packages.txt , then later, dpkg --set-selections < my_packages.txt && apt-get install . See also <aptitude clone> <debian clone> |
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| 08:10.02 | Evet | should i use ubuntu repositories? |
| 08:10.09 | Evet | which are newer |
| 08:11.49 | Cozminsky | Evet, on debian? probably not |
| 08:13.01 | au | Evet: no, not on debian |
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| 08:13.38 | Cozminsky | I once upgraded debian to ubuntu by switching apt sources.list |
| 08:13.44 | Cozminsky | it was a painful week |
| 08:14.07 | au | Evet: It depends how new as well.. I would use stable version over the latest version |
| 08:14.41 | Cozminsky | Evet, I'd use debian unstable over ubuntu |
| 08:18.35 | linuxguy2009 | d1b: Ok so I output dpkg --get-selections to a text file and it lists all installed packages. So I later feed the list back with dpkg --set-selections and I assume that anything not listed will be removed like I am in need of? |
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| 08:19.26 | hanibana | hi all |
| 08:19.45 | Cozminsky | linuxguy2009, you need to do --clear-selections before --set-selections if you want to remove other packages |
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| 08:20.00 | Cozminsky | linuxguy2009, otherwise it will simply add them to the installed list |
| 08:20.02 | hanibana | anyone using Xen on debian with tap:aio for xen virtual disks? |
| 08:20.22 | linuxguy2009 | Cozminsky: Ok thats pretty logical.Thank you. |
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| 08:22.47 | hanibana | I geting errors with this; so I can only use `file' URI for loop devices. |
| 08:23.10 | dusd_ | Why is most of the GUI and other other text messed or missing in Iceweasel while using Window Maker? |
| 08:25.10 | pat|nG | does skype apps work on debian? |
| 08:25.15 | Evet | why does ubuntu provide unstable versions? |
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| 08:25.44 | jpinx-eeepc | pat|nG: I have the beta skype working ok in stable |
| 08:26.08 | jpinx-eeepc | it does calls and texts and chats and video calling |
| 08:26.32 | pat|nG | i see |
| 08:26.36 | jpinx-eeepc | Evet: because they like sns |
| 08:26.43 | jpinx-eeepc | !sns |
| 08:26.43 | dpkg | well, sns syndrome is a serious disorder otherwise known as Shiny New Shite Syndrome usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. Slashdot readers are more likely than others to contract the condition. |
| 08:26.45 | pat|nG | same as ym or msn messenger? |
| 08:27.09 | jpinx-eeepc | pat|nG: better to be honest |
| 08:27.37 | jpinx-eeepc | pat|nG: I use irssi/bitlbee for ym and msn, so nothing other than text chats there |
| 08:27.56 | pat|nG | no video calls? |
| 08:28.21 | pat|nG | debian only? or some distros too? |
| 08:29.00 | pat|nG | have u tried pidgin? |
| 08:29.07 | pat|nG | hmmmmm |
| 08:29.16 | pat|nG | i can't go to gentoo |
| 08:29.22 | pat|nG | not quiet good yet |
| 08:29.27 | pat|nG | still learnin |
| 08:29.40 | pat|nG | so ill practice more here on debian first |
| 08:29.43 | pat|nG | ;) |
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| 08:32.21 | jpinx-eeepc | pat|nG: yea - tried pidgin and it's pants |
| 08:33.07 | jpinx-eeepc | pat|nG: you could try amsn for msn messenger - it's ok |
| 08:35.35 | ethanol | yeww no |
| 08:35.46 | ethanol | pidgin ftw |
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| 08:37.50 | eshat | How to check if a network cable is plugged in ? |
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| 08:38.16 | liable | look at the back of your computer |
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| 08:39.33 | WormFood | eshat, you *may* be able to tell in software |
| 08:40.14 | eagles0513875 | hey guys anyone worked with xen before on debian as i am having some really annoying issues with xen |
| 08:40.19 | liable | yes, ethtool or its twin should say |
| 08:40.29 | eshat | Not physically, i want to write a script that only connects my wlan, if there is no cable plugged in, otherwise start dhcp on eth0 |
| 08:40.42 | eshat | liable: thanks, I ll check the man page |
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| 08:41.05 | liable | eshat: there used to be a little program called.. (trying to recall its name, gimme a minute) |
| 08:41.06 | Evet | i found postgresql 8.4 for lenny, http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/postgresql-8.4; but my aptitude search contains only 8.3 |
| 08:41.12 | Evet | isn't 8.4 stable? |
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| 08:42.50 | jpinx-eeepc | eshat: wicd does that |
| 08:43.03 | liable | shit, memory is broken |
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| 08:43.14 | eshat | jpinx-eeepc: hmm I don't want to use a grphical tool, i ll check with ethtool.... thanks |
| 08:43.26 | jpinx-eeepc | installs 2GBs RAM in liable |
| 08:44.02 | liable | drinks 1GB away tonight |
| 08:44.15 | liable | aha |
| 08:44.47 | liable | ifplugd is what i was thinking of. there was another one too. not sure if its still actively worked on anymore though |
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| 08:48.06 | jpinx-eeepc | liable: would udev not see an eth plugin event? |
| 08:48.25 | liable | hmm, i would imagine so. not sure though |
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| 08:49.10 | Evet | backports are unstable? |
| 08:49.16 | jpinx-eeepc | eshat has buggered off anyway.... |
| 08:49.40 | liable | Evet: no, just not "officially" supported, though they are produced by dd's |
| 08:49.44 | jpinx-eeepc | Evet: /msg dpkg backports |
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| 08:52.07 | [here] | does anyone here use tightvnc? |
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| 08:52.45 | [here] | ive got it setup and im able to tunnel in, but for some reason I only get an X screen when my startup file ends in gnome-session & |
| 08:52.51 | [here] | no errors in the log |
| 08:53.13 | [here] | wait.. |
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| 08:54.01 | Evet | deb http://backports.org/debian/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free |
| 08:54.01 | Evet | deb-src http://backports.org/debian/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free |
| 08:54.04 | Evet | is wrong? |
| 08:55.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | why do you feel it should be wrong? |
| 08:55.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually, I got deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free |
| 08:55.52 | rvsjoen | does backports have lenny/updates ? |
| 08:55.56 | Evet | CutMeOwnThroat, W: Failed to fetch http://backports.org/debian/dists/lenny/updates/non-free/source/Sources 404 Not Found |
| 08:56.13 | rvsjoen | the instructions page on backports.org should tell you what you need to kno |
| 08:56.15 | rvsjoen | know |
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| 08:56.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | is it wrong in the factoid? |
| 08:56.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | !bpo |
| 08:56.38 | dpkg | backports.org is a semi-official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions . A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update. See also <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents>. |
| 08:56.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, it aint |
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| 08:57.02 | freedrull | anyone know where the debian MIPS tftp boot image is? i could only find a .iso, and i'm looking for the .img file |
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| 08:58.41 | rvsjoen | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/mips/ch04s02.html.en |
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| 08:59.16 | Zbyshek | What is used instead of libpam-cracklib? deborphan is all the time trying to remove it... |
| 08:59.27 | freedrull | rvsjoen: great! thanks |
| 08:59.52 | Evet | thanks CutMeOwnThroat |
| 09:00.02 | WormFood | what is the program to change the time zone? (I know how to do it manually) |
| 09:00.25 | Zbyshek | WormFood: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
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| 09:00.47 | WormFood | thank Zbyshek, but I thought there was another program to do it from the command line |
| 09:01.07 | Zbyshek | WormFood: tzconfig :-) |
| 09:01.49 | WormFood | WARNING: the tzconfig command is deprecated, please use: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 09:01.53 | rvsjoen | also tzselect |
| 09:02.08 | rvsjoen | oh, no, thats for viewing |
| 09:02.13 | WormFood | ok...I guess that is "the debian way"(tm) to do it |
| 09:02.27 | WormFood | no, you're right rvsjoen...that is the one I was thinking of |
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| 09:03.12 | WormFood | in fact, tzselect is much easier to use than "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" |
| 09:03.54 | Cozminsky | WormFood, problem with tzselect is that it merely sets your environment |
| 09:04.01 | WormFood | "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" is a clusterfuck! yes, I'm in asia, please give me EVERY GOD DAMN CITY IN ASIA IN ONE BIG LIST, where tzselect has it broken down by countries |
| 09:04.32 | WormFood | yeah, but at least I know what to select out of "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" now, without having to look through hundreds of cities |
| 09:04.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | WormFood: just hit the start letter of the city and it'\ll jump there |
| 09:04.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | your wish is granted |
| 09:04.46 | WormFood | Kamping_Kaiser, my city isn't listed |
| 09:05.02 | WormFood | and I have no clue as to what cities they do list...but tzselect tells me that |
| 09:05.11 | WormFood | now I know what to select with "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" |
| 09:06.17 | WormFood | they only have 4 cities listed for all of China...not even "beijing" or "guangzhou" is listed (the 2nd and 3rd largest cities in China) |
| 09:07.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | surely it only needs one city per timezone? |
| 09:07.16 | WormFood | anyways, thanks for your help Zbyshek and rvsjoen |
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| 09:07.26 | WormFood | Kamping_Kaiser, yes, but the entire country uses one time zone |
| 09:07.57 | WormFood | Kamping_Kaiser, how am I supposed to know what city to look for, if the obvious one (Beijing) isn't there? |
| 09:08.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | WormFood: if the whole country is one timezone find any city. sounds like the real bug is there are more then oneoption |
| 09:08.39 | WormFood | anyways...in my opinion, the city selector in "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" is fucked...it should be broken down by country, then city, like tzselect does |
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| 09:09.15 | eagles0513875 | hey guys |
| 09:09.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's not SO long a list, though |
| 09:09.34 | eagles0513875 | any xen users in here that can help me out im having some annoying issues |
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| 09:10.04 | WormFood | CutMeOwnThroat, it is long enough that it is not fun to search through it....what region did you look at? asia? |
| 09:10.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes... it's got 92 entries |
| 09:10.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's 3 times hitting Page Down |
| 09:11.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | America has 5 such pages |
| 09:11.40 | WormFood | so I have to search through more than 20 times more cities than what I need |
| 09:11.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | life can be so tough |
| 09:12.05 | WormFood | isn't life, it is debian :P |
| 09:12.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's life |
| 09:12.19 | WormFood | they could make it easier, but they don't |
| 09:12.28 | WormFood | life is a bitch, then you die |
| 09:12.38 | WormFood | or you get reincarnated, and life is a bitch all over again |
| 09:13.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | I think they assume people can manage to look over 100 entries every century or so ... |
| 09:13.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | Beijing should be there, though... to that much I agree |
| 09:13.53 | WormFood | it is actually called "beijing time" in China |
| 09:14.16 | WormFood | most areas out west use a local time, but the official time for the entire country is beijing time |
| 09:14.33 | WormFood | unless they've changed it lately...that was the last I knew |
| 09:15.00 | WormFood | shit! I gotta go to work...see ya'll later åè§ |
| 09:15.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | I just say the amount of bitching is in no proportion to the task |
| 09:16.06 | Cozminsky | CutMeOwnThroat, it's a bad UI, if nobody bitches how do you find these things out? |
| 09:16.31 | Kamping_Kaiser | Cozminsky: bug reports |
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| 09:16.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | Kamping_Kaiser, did you read my thoughts just now? |
| 09:16.46 | Cozminsky | Kamping_Kaiser, sure, that's the most productive place to bitch |
| 09:16.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | Cozminsky, which this isn't |
| 09:16.59 | Cozminsky | agreed |
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| 09:17.29 | Kamping_Kaiser | CutMeOwnThroat: most of them |
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| 09:18.10 | BW^- | jsvc eats 80% of the CPU and doesn't do a thing, following that i started tomcat. any idea how fix? |
| 09:18.45 | Cozminsky | BW^-, what does strace say? |
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| 09:19.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | and a bit of bitching woulda been ok - but he wrote 200 words on searching through a 100-cities list! |
| 09:22.26 | BW^- | cozminsky: ah, duh: write(2, "Cannot locate Java Home"..., 23Cannot locate Java Home) = 23 write(2, "\n"..., 1 |
| 09:23.17 | Cozminsky | BW^-, I think that was probably destined for syslog |
| 09:23.56 | Cozminsky | BW^-, but looks like you just need to edit /etc/default/tomcat.. to fix |
| 09:26.50 | BW^- | cozminsky: funny it ate all CPU in order to find that out |
| 09:27.09 | BW^- | wait no, it didn't eat all CPU in order to find that out, tomcat did actually start |
| 09:27.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | well... double-checking is good - better safe than sorry! |
| 09:27.21 | BW^- | 23435 tomcat55 15 0 357m 41m 15m S 79.0 8.0 0:21.47 jsvc |
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| 09:31.23 | BW^- | cozminsky: eh, strace -f stopped in the middle of a row |
| 09:31.23 | BW^- | [pid 23498] gettimeofday( |
| 09:32.01 | BW^- | *thinking* this didn't happen on my debian etch box. |
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| 09:33.51 | BW^- | tomcat55 23498 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? Zl 09:29 0:00 [jsvc] <defunct> gah. |
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| 09:36.33 | BW^- | aha, it output a lot of info into the syslog upon startup, with java stack traces. never seen that before, interesting, checking out. |
| 09:37.41 | samyboy | Do some people use xen over here? I'm worrying about squeeze's xen support. Should I worry? |
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| 09:44.55 | petemc | samyboy: worrying isnt going to help much, but last i heard there were plans for a xen dom0 kernel for squeeze |
| 09:45.08 | petemc | i havent seen such a thing, tho |
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| 09:50.03 | rittyan | Why when I run debuild pre-build hook is called twice? O_o |
| 09:50.36 | rittyan | there is one package specified in control/rules/etc |
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| 09:56.37 | BW^- | if anyone knows this - tomcat on etch used to send tomcat's stdout output to catalina.log . this one though sends it to syslog. i want it as it used to be, how do? |
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| 09:59.23 | rvsjoen | bw^-: you can configure syslog to put stuff from tomcat into a separate file |
| 09:59.41 | rvsjoen | if there's a way to reconfigure tomcat to do it I have no idea |
| 10:02.50 | BW^- | rvsjoen: hm. |
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| 10:09.39 | rittyan | it seems it is okay that prebuild is called twice, environment is different in both cases |
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| 10:16.03 | axscode | hi guys, when my debian boots, it says acpi and fan module is not loaded, it says fatal |
| 10:16.12 | axscode | is there anything i can do with it? |
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| 10:16.30 | eagles0513875 | hey guys |
| 10:16.38 | eagles0513875 | anyone in here work with xen on lenny |
| 10:16.56 | petemc | eagles0513875: just ask your question |
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| 10:17.42 | eagles0513875 | im having an issue with my guest on xen not showing the disk.img as ext3 :( im not sure where to look. its showing the disk.img as data only |
| 10:17.49 | jpinx-eeepc | axscode: reinstall the acpi scripts? - just a guess... |
| 10:18.06 | tomodachi | eagles0513875: sounds like its not ext3 to me |
| 10:18.18 | petemc | eagles0513875: can you mount -o loop the .img file? |
| 10:18.18 | tomodachi | what happends when you try to loopback mount it? |
| 10:18.31 | eagles0513875 | tomodachi: in the xen-tools.conf i have it setup to use ext3 and it somehow automounts it |
| 10:18.39 | tomodachi | mount the files |
| 10:18.41 | tomodachi | manually |
| 10:18.47 | tomodachi | to /mnt/temp |
| 10:18.49 | tomodachi | or something |
| 10:18.52 | tomodachi | to check if that works |
| 10:20.15 | eagles0513875 | i cant it asks for the file system when i do mount -o loop |
| 10:21.16 | petemc | eagles0513875: there would appear to be some issues with that img file, perhaps try to run fsck on it |
| 10:21.17 | eagles0513875 | tomodachi: if i do losetup -a it shows that its already mounted |
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| 10:21.45 | eagles0513875 | petemc: how would i go about doing it if i use xmconsole it takes me down to a busybox initramfs console |
| 10:22.10 | tomodachi | eagles0513875: so where is it mounted? |
| 10:22.11 | petemc | do it from the dom0 |
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| 10:22.34 | tomodachi | traverse the mountpoimt. watcha see? |
| 10:23.02 | eagles0513875 | losetup -a shows its mounted /dev/loop0: [0801]:11730962 (/home/xen_vm/domains/Refuge/disk.img) |
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| 10:24.15 | axscode | jpinx-eeepc: how to reinstall the acpi scripts? |
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| 10:25.11 | axscode | is this acpi scripts for eeepc only? |
| 10:25.41 | jpinx-eeepc | axscode: not sure, but I'd list your acopi with dpkg -l and see what's in there first |
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| 10:26.15 | jpinx-eeepc | axscode: acpi scripts in stable do include stuff for eeepc's |
| 10:26.42 | liable | old ones |
| 10:27.04 | axscode | im not sure why my debian, gets totally halted |
| 10:27.05 | liable | if you have an ee with lenny, you should use the eee repo, we updated the scripts for lenny some time back |
| 10:27.06 | jpinx-eeepc | liable: yea - tell me about it :( |
| 10:27.17 | axscode | all services is not accessible remotely |
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| 10:27.31 | liable | jpinx-eeepc: you should know better |
| 10:27.35 | jpinx-eeepc | ooo - new scripts to make my 901's buttons and wifi work ? |
| 10:27.36 | liable | :P |
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| 10:28.14 | liable | dunno, i just recall doing it a few months back |
| 10:28.16 | jpinx-eeepc | liable: I recently got 901 TO REPLACE THE 701 AND THE WIFI SUX :( |
| 10:28.23 | liable | indeed |
| 10:28.30 | axscode | quick question.. im using gnome, how to navigate applications without mouse? any hot keys? |
| 10:28.31 | jpinx-eeepc | ooops - sorry |
| 10:28.43 | liable | i havent actually booted my eee for about six months |
| 10:29.00 | jpinx-eeepc | liable: my 701 was like that |
| 10:29.11 | jpinx-eeepc | but the 901 is still being "tweaked" |
| 10:29.29 | liable | the scripts are. not sure what the progress on wireless is |
| 10:29.30 | jpinx-eeepc | axscode: stuff like Alt-Tab |
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| 10:30.19 | oggei | moin |
| 10:30.45 | jpinx-eeepc | axscode: and Alt-Shift-Tab to go backwards |
| 10:31.03 | axscode | yeah i know about that. i mean Application the main menu for application list... |
| 10:31.29 | jpinx-eeepc | liable: tbh I haven't had time to really try to get everything working - I am travelling thee days.... |
| 10:32.18 | axscode | CTRL + ALT + TAB seems to be the keys.. thanks |
| 10:33.08 | BW^- | rvsjoen: hm, how may we do this? |
| 10:34.29 | eagles0513875 | tomodachi: do you think its a kernel issue? |
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| 10:37.00 | vy | Hi! What's the name of the package that supplies a UI for gtkrc font configuration? |
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| 10:41.01 | eagles0513875 | petemc: so fsck locationof disk.img |
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| 10:54.18 | yaboo | hi using software raid 5, I am trying to add another disk to the array I use the mdadm --grow /dev/md1 /dev/sda1 and tells me I can only do this on linear arrays |
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| 11:00.34 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 11:00.34 | dpkg | <antgel__>wols_: that was my question. i have established that the best method could be to open the disc and use a small magnet to get all the 1s and 0s in the right places |
| 11:00.44 | EmleyMoor | yaboo: mdadm --add /dev/md1 /dev/sda1, then mdadm -grow --raid-devices=(one more than before) /dev/md1 |
| 11:01.55 | EmleyMoor | Then finally modif /etc/mdadm.conf to match the new situation |
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| 11:02.36 | yaboo | EmleyMoor: my array is not in the mdadm.conf file |
| 11:02.37 | EmleyMoor | If you need to resize afterwards, that's an "unwmounted" job |
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| 11:02.56 | EmleyMoor | http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/linux-raid/growing |
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| 11:03.14 | kryptoz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:03.52 | jhattara | how can i configure my monitor from terminal, can't get to GUI because monitor says the input is not supported ? |
| 11:07.22 | liable | kryptoz: just give dpkg the full path |
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| 11:08.27 | kryptoz | dpkg and the full path of the location where I want the lib,include and bin files to go ? like "dpkg -i <.deb file> /opt/python25" ? |
| 11:08.29 | dpkg | kryptoz: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
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| 11:10.20 | zamba | i have a problem with "too many open files".. |
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| 11:10.39 | zamba | how can i fix it and is there any problems associated with doing so? |
| 11:11.09 | EmleyMoor | zamba: What exactly are you doing when this happens? |
| 11:11.51 | zamba | EmleyMoor: it's basically a server with lots of connections.. it's a NAT router for four subnets.. it runs an LDAP directory and some CIFS/NFS mounts |
| 11:12.02 | zamba | EmleyMoor: so it's probably just run out of file handles |
| 11:13.21 | EmleyMoor | What's the output of cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max |
| 11:14.23 | EmleyMoor | .. and file-nr, oce the problem has occurred on the affected system? |
| 11:14.28 | zamba | 37657 |
| 11:14.38 | zamba | # cat /proc/sys/fs/file-nr |
| 11:14.38 | zamba | 2528 0 37657 |
| 11:14.51 | EmleyMoor | Hmmm - so not that |
| 11:15.10 | zamba | i've restarted slapd |
| 11:15.13 | zamba | looks like that was the culprit |
| 11:15.30 | zamba | Jan 19 12:09:09 fused slapd[10540]: warning: cannot open /etc/hosts.allow: Too many open files |
| 11:15.35 | EmleyMoor | Yes, but the first number is cumulativu |
| 11:15.37 | EmleyMoor | e |
| 11:15.41 | zamba | and then restarting slapd solved it |
| 11:15.52 | zamba | but this has happened before, so i'd rather it didn't again |
| 11:16.02 | EmleyMoor | Is fused the user running slapd? |
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| 11:16.26 | zamba | fused is the hostname |
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| 11:16.41 | EmleyMoor | Oh right... |
| 11:17.10 | EmleyMoor | Has the warning above occurred since the last reboot? |
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| 11:17.21 | jmut | do I need to run something for /etc/locale.alias to take effect? |
| 11:17.42 | zamba | EmleyMoor: i haven't rebooted |
| 11:17.46 | zamba | EmleyMoor: i just restarted slapd |
| 11:17.58 | EmleyMoor | Right, so yes... |
| 11:18.04 | EmleyMoor | Still researching |
| 11:18.05 | jmut | I have layout locale/deu/LC_MESSEAGES... and I'd like to alias deu to de_DE.utf8 but doesn't seem right |
| 11:19.30 | zamba | jmut: try 'locale-gen', though i'm not sure |
| 11:19.58 | canhantas | Hi! I am facing a problem while trying to runn empathy (im client). I get tp-glib-WARNING **: Failed to connect to starter bus: .... |
| 11:20.07 | EmleyMoor | zamba: As the user running slapd, do ulimit -n |
| 11:21.05 | zamba | EmleyMoor: 1024 |
| 11:22.13 | jmut | zamba: tried it..no change. thanks though |
| 11:22.32 | EmleyMoor | zamba: Which user does slapd run as? |
| 11:24.29 | EmleyMoor | You may need to edit /etc/security/limits.conf... |
| 11:27.37 | zamba | EmleyMoor: openldap |
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| 11:28.06 | EmleyMoor | zamba: You may need to set openldap a suitable limit in that file |
| 11:28.06 | zamba | EmleyMoor: aha, cool.. i'll take a look at it |
| 11:28.28 | EmleyMoor | The thing we looked at earlier is the overall system limit |
| 11:28.33 | zamba | but the source of the problem, if slapd just grows and grows, is still there..? |
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| 11:29.33 | EmleyMoor | I wouldn't expect it to just grow and grow - but then again I have not used it |
| 11:29.55 | EmleyMoor | Maybe it outgrows what it's currently allowed |
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| 12:03.53 | geekyogi | I just broke the key 'u' on my keyboard... any app to map the key with other key like ctrl...??? |
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| 12:09.09 | DonAlex | Morning all.. |
| 12:09.40 | DonAlex | Getting pretty desperate because cannot find any chatter about this... so ears open guys ok? |
| 12:10.20 | oggei | sleeps |
| 12:11.29 | DonAlex | I am running Debian and have an AAR-2610SA |
| 12:11.53 | DonAlex | 6 port Sata Raid by adaptec in case anyone doesn;t know. |
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| 12:12.31 | DonAlex | All seems to be fine.. except.. every time I do any kind of verify on the elements or on the logical device.. it sorta 'stops' at 13% |
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| 12:12.59 | DonAlex | Cannot see any errors flagged but it just sorta stops. |
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| 12:13.16 | DonAlex | have to reboot to reset the devices.. |
| 12:13.22 | leon2k | hi! i have got a simple question. how can i stop gnome from displaying mounted media on my desktop ? i have been looking trough the entries with configuration editor but just couldnt find it :( |
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| 12:24.07 | leon2k | found it |
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| 12:27.13 | don_martino | and he didn't even ask a question ... |
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| 12:30.53 | Chessware | hello all |
| 12:31.32 | Chessware | I am looking for a way to block all type of vpn connections from and to my LAN |
| 12:32.36 | Chessware | especially ipsec, l2tp |
| 12:34.22 | oggei | l2tp and ipsec are protocols like tcp or udp, so you can simply block on this |
| 12:34.50 | Chessware | oggei, you mean blocking there port number ? |
| 12:35.01 | oggei | ask your network admin |
| 12:35.07 | beli | no...blocking by protocol |
| 12:35.52 | Chessware | oggei, I am supposed to be him :) |
| 12:35.54 | oggei | (also, note that there is a *lot* of vpn/encapsulation solutions, so you'll also have to block other things) |
| 12:36.25 | Chessware | oggei, can you give me a piste an url ... ? |
| 12:36.43 | oggei | Chessware: iso/osi stack |
| 12:36.48 | oggei | (don't joke) |
| 12:37.01 | beli | Chessware: read about iptables and blocking by protocol and read about mangleling |
| 12:37.03 | brbrbr | block "on whre" ? on you border router ? |
| 12:37.17 | Chessware | beli, how can I do that with iptables, for example to block the ipsec prorocols |
| 12:37.18 | Chessware | ? |
| 12:37.30 | brbrbr | L7 filtering or Deep packet inspection Firewall can do this trick |
| 12:37.31 | Chessware | brbrbr, yes |
| 12:37.34 | beli | read the iptables manual and look for what i said |
| 12:37.36 | brbrbr | as well as proxy firewall |
| 12:37.46 | Chessware | beli, ok |
| 12:37.57 | oggei | brbrbr: for blocking a protocol you really don't need to spawn a l7 based solution. |
| 12:37.59 | brbrbr | netfilter can't SAFELY block it |
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| 12:38.35 | oggei | also, shorewall.net is a very well written netfilter frontend to investigate, Chessware |
| 12:38.38 | brbrbr | little obfuscation here, little wrapping here and here[w/encryption]and ... here we go |
| 12:39.00 | brbrbr | try ZOrp |
| 12:39.04 | oggei | brbrbr: there is always ssl so ... |
| 12:39.14 | beli | he should get more deep into netfilter/iptables itself |
| 12:39.17 | brbrbr | SSL/SSH "defective by design", IMO |
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| 12:39.53 | oggei | brbrbr: still on caesar cipher eh ? :P |
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| 12:40.38 | Chessware | oggei, OK I will check it |
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| 12:41.30 | brbrbr | oggei ? what about chiper ? they defective by design |
| 12:41.45 | fas3r | i have do chartt +i on a file ... i need to execute this command on the file at every reboot or just one time ? |
| 12:41.46 | brbrbr | and no, i prefer CAST or Twofish |
| 12:41.57 | oggei | brbrbr: ok :)) |
| 12:42.15 | brbrbr | implementation is flawed. and concept need some work-out too |
| 12:42.38 | brbrbr | one-time[session]crypto is ok, while key exchanges is not |
| 12:43.03 | brbrbr | same about symmetric/assymetric crypto risks/benefits tradeoff |
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| 12:43.09 | oggei | brbrbr: sorry but i tend to consider ssl just more stable than wrapping or obfuscations or <crap> for doing things |
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| 12:43.32 | brbrbr | especially when we remember what are verisign/thawrware guys are[from same circles as MS] |
| 12:43.41 | oggei | we were talking bout terminating vpn inside a wanna secured env |
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| 12:43.48 | brbrbr | thats why i don't trues M Shurtleworth "products" btw |
| 12:43.54 | brbrbr | and him personally |
| 12:43.57 | themill | points towards #debian-offtopic |
| 12:44.05 | brbrbr | comply |
| 12:44.17 | brbrbr | went checking teapot content |
| 12:44.34 | kalleh | I have a package which I created from the dh_make utility and it works fine, but I cannot figure out how ignore my .git directory in the debian/ dir, it's giving me problems since it detects checksum changes inside the git dir |
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| 12:47.50 | rittyan | what is a better name for package if it installs additional cdbs rules? I mean, is there some naming convention for that? |
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| 12:50.38 | KaiSVK | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.14 | mjt | for fetchmail there's a ton of tutorials like this |
| 12:51.42 | mjt | but it's inherently unreliable (as stated in almost every tutorial) |
| 12:51.51 | manicman | i have unmet dependencies and apt-get suggests to use -f... is this suitable? http://pastie.org/784661 |
| 12:52.49 | mjt | or just remove the listed texlive packages |
| 12:53.08 | themill | manicman: what did you do to provoke this problem? and what release of debian are you using? |
| 12:53.14 | mjt | since no of them works anyway |
| 12:53.32 | manicman | themill: i am using squeeze and just did a apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 12:53.40 | manicman | themill: have texlive-full installed |
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| 12:56.49 | themill | manicman: texlive 2009 has only just migrated to testing. All the necessary packages are now in testing although perhaps your mirror is in an inconsistent state. Using aptitude would probably solve this problem. "aptitude -f install texlive-full". An "aptitude update" first might be an idea too |
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| 12:58.03 | themill | actually, "aptitude -f full-upgrade" would probably be enough |
| 12:58.29 | manicman | themill: k, ill try both.. mom |
| 12:59.03 | themill | manicman: good luck with it (I'm afk for a bit, but others are around and will help) |
| 12:59.24 | manicman | themill: thx |
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| 13:16.26 | fireba11 | hi, i got a backup box for my webserver. to sync that i also have to sync postgresql databases, somehow doesn't the auth from the webcalendar package work on the target box. anyone could tell me where the password for that postgresql database might be stored? i'm syncing the whole /var/lib/postgresql folder already ... |
| 13:19.41 | sash_ | fireba11: im not sure, but i think *sql-databases are not synced by copying the files. in mysql for example, you can bounce them by using mysql-bounce or sometihning like this |
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| 13:20.40 | fireba11 | sash_: well postgresql on the target system is not running, so syncling like that works. i also sync a DB dump as fallback. question is why one login doesn't work on ym target box |
| 13:21.21 | sash_ | fireba11: that has been everything i know about database-migration, cannot help. sorry. |
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| 13:30.31 | eshat | Hi all. AcroRead freezes with 100% CPU, when I Click Properties on Print Dialog, how to solve this issue ? Reinstalling and removing .adobe didn't help... |
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| 13:35.40 | dukebody | I'm getting a "ImportError: No module named pkg_resources" when running a python2.4 script. I suppose I have to install setuptools, but how can I install setuptools for python 2.4 on squeeze? |
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| 13:47.05 | tvaughn | lenny is latest? |
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| 13:49.32 | justin_seeley_bc | I cann't set up my graphics card... |
| 13:50.06 | justin_seeley_bc | after an "apt-get upgrade", the kdm could not be start up again |
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| 13:56.31 | tvaughn | justin_seeley_bc: did the kernel update? |
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| 13:57.39 | justin_seeley_bc | at first didn't, but then updated the kernel from 2..6.31 to 2.6.32 tring to solver the problem |
| 13:57.52 | eshat | Hi all. My AcroRead freezes with 100% CPU, when I Click Properties on Print Dialog. Reinstalling and removing .adobe didn't help... |
| 13:58.00 | justin_seeley_bc | tvaughn: but pity it doesn't work |
| 13:58.34 | tvaughn | justin_seeley_bc: you updated the kernel because it wasnt working or it isnt working because the kernel |
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| 13:58.38 | yassine | hi everyone |
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| 13:58.58 | yassine | is there a way to expose a dbm database for remote queries? |
| 13:58.59 | justin_seeley_bc | tvaughn: formmer |
| 13:59.07 | tvaughn | o |
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| 14:01.56 | omg_onoez | why john the ripper from lenny or squeeze repos doesn't load hashes from htpasswd and john 1.7.2 compiled on freebsd box from ports does exactly same thing fine |
| 14:02.03 | omg_onoez | kinda weird |
| 14:02.37 | mjt | note that a new releaase of john has just been announced |
| 14:03.00 | simonrvn | also that fbsd probably adds patches too ... |
| 14:04.25 | omg_onoez | i thought they added support for this in 1.7.3 wich is in squeeze repo |
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| 14:06.06 | simonrvn | so you on testing then? |
| 14:06.23 | omg_onoez | yep |
| 14:07.08 | omg_onoez | got segfault after launch of freshly compiled latest development source \= |
| 14:07.20 | simonrvn | :( |
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| 14:07.45 | omg_onoez | same problem, not loads with current stable compiled from sources |
| 14:08.00 | omg_onoez | looks like i'm missing something |
| 14:08.02 | omg_onoez | lol |
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| 14:13.18 | fas3r | i have do chartt +i on a file ... i need to execute this command on the file at every reboot or just one time ? |
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| 14:28.37 | lzm | im wondering, can i install kde3.5 in testing? |
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| 14:30.39 | Hydroxide | lzm: not via debian packages |
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| 14:31.17 | lzm | Hydroxide: how, then? |
| 14:32.32 | Hydroxide | lzm: possibly by compiling kde.org sources following their instructions |
| 14:33.13 | Hydroxide | lzm: if you want IRC help for that, talk to #kde. why do you want 3.5? |
| 14:33.48 | lzm | Hydroxide: oh. ubuntu had a third party repository providing the package kde3 |
| 14:33.59 | lzm | Hydroxide: i like it better then kde4 |
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| 14:34.34 | lzm | Hydroxide: i guess ill just install stable version |
| 14:34.46 | abrotman | lzm: you might as well get used to kde4, they're not going to continue with kde3 forever |
| 14:34.52 | abrotman | or find another WM/DE |
| 14:35.41 | Hydroxide | lzm: there might be a third-party repository for debian for all I know, but we don't support it just like official ubuntu/canonical people don't support the repository you found |
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| 14:46.36 | larsl | What does the "trunk" in linux-image-2.6.32-trunk-amd64 mean? |
| 14:47.52 | sash_ | afaik, a trunk is an unfinal development-path in a multi-developer-environment. but i am not sure |
| 14:48.20 | larsl | Yeah, I know what it is in SVN. I was just wondering what it meant for the package. |
| 14:48.37 | sash_ | the same? dont know |
| 14:48.40 | larsl | (which doesn't actually seem to exist, it's in the lists but not installable) |
| 14:48.52 | larsl | "Package linux-image-2.6.32-trunk-amd64 is not available, but is referred to by another package." |
| 14:49.10 | larsl | I'd really like to upgrade from 2.6.30 because it's causing hard kernel panics on my laptop. |
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| 14:51.52 | abrotman | larsl: it's a non-final kernel, making frequent changes, so the ABI is changing constantly |
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| 14:52.23 | larsl | abrotman: 2.6.32, or just Debian's package of it? |
| 14:53.21 | rvsjoen | 2.6.32.4 was stable last time I checked ? |
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| 14:55.53 | jelly | rvsjoen: upstream doesn't care about ABI changes. |
| 14:56.04 | Snadder | Does it exist a tool to automaticly detect which charset some characters is in? |
| 14:56.31 | jelly | rvsjoen: in other words, modules for 2.6.32.4 may or may not work on 2.6.32.5. |
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| 15:04.10 | rvsjoen | ok |
| 15:05.20 | nsadmin | chars in their binary form are just data... they cannot be distinguished from other binary data |
| 15:06.33 | nsadmin | as with all binary data, there has to be something to interpret them, and it is this interpreter that is told what kind of binary data it is |
| 15:06.57 | nsadmin | going the other way is possible I suppose, but it would be a guess |
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| 15:10.16 | abrotman | larsl: the package in sid |
| 15:10.27 | larsl | abrotman: Ah. |
| 15:10.33 | abrotman | larsl: if you're really interested, i'm sure i could find an email talking about it |
| 15:11.06 | larsl | abrotman: That or some search keywords would be great. |
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| 15:14.16 | Acony | I just installed debian and I don't have tabs in nautilus |
| 15:14.23 | Acony | what should I do to get them ? |
| 15:15.34 | nsadmin | Acony: find out how to set nautilus preferences, and look at all of the settings |
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| 15:16.04 | christianp | hi friends |
| 15:16.48 | Acony | nsadmin, well I am setting preferences from nautilus preferences menu |
| 15:16.57 | Acony | but there is no option for tabs |
| 15:17.04 | Acony | and ctrl+t ain't working |
| 15:17.18 | nsadmin | then perhaps this version of nautilus doesn't have tabs? |
| 15:17.48 | nsadmin | or it does, and the preferences dialog(s) don't cover it |
| 15:18.05 | Acony | nsadmin, probably I don't know |
| 15:18.09 | nsadmin | what does the documentation say? |
| 15:18.15 | Acony | I am using Nautilus 2.20.0 |
| 15:18.30 | nsadmin | the documentation says you are using Nautilus 2.20.0?! |
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| 15:19.35 | Acony | nope, about says that :D |
| 15:19.38 | Ironhand | hello... I'm having a bit of an issue in trying to get Lenny with Xen running on a Dell PE R410 server, in that I need a newer version of the bnx2 network driver than is in the stock kernel... however the backport 2.6.29/30 kernels don't come in Xen flavours |
| 15:19.38 | toolz | hi, I am trying to install debian 5.0.3 on a i7 machine, everything is fine till it looks after disk. It doesnt find my hdd. Its sata wd black 500GB 32mb cache |
| 15:19.47 | toolz | any idea what should I do? |
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| 15:20.12 | Ironhand | does anyone know any possible solutions to this? might it be possible to backport the newer bnx2 driver relatively easily? (from reading it seems getting Xen to work in newer kernels is difficult) |
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| 15:20.13 | abrotman | larsl: give me a minute or two |
| 15:21.20 | nsadmin | Ironhand: probably that means the newer kernels don't patch well with the xen stuff, so you're probably right, the easier avenue is to try to get the newer net driver on the existing kernel |
| 15:21.32 | abrotman | grr .. he's gone |
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| 15:21.54 | jelly | Ironhand: it might be possible, but we don't have an idea how hard it's going to be |
| 15:22.25 | Ironhand | nsadmin/jelly: ok, thanks... seems I'll have to as my options are rather limited at the moment to get Lenny with Xen working on this machine |
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| 15:22.38 | jelly | Ironhand: you could ask #debian-kernel (irc.debian.org) what's the state of Xen support for the squeeze kernel (2.6.32-ish) |
| 15:23.02 | toolz | any clue? |
| 15:23.06 | jelly | Ironhand: otoh, you might be lucky and only need to add a pci-id |
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| 15:23.13 | nsadmin | probably the best thing to start with is building a kernel of the version you're running with the .config appearing in /boot for that kernel |
| 15:23.24 | Ironhand | jelly: thanks for the tip, I'll see if I can do it myself easily and otherwise ask around in #debian-kernel |
| 15:24.07 | jelly | toolz: try an installer with newer kernel. /msg dpkg kmuto |
| 15:24.12 | nsadmin | once you get that far (i.e., duplicating what you now have), you can try getting the newer net card driver |
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| 15:24.47 | Ironhand | nsadmin: yeah, I'm going to give that a try |
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| 15:25.25 | nsadmin | it's very likely to be the easier route even if you do have to actually look at the code |
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| 15:26.17 | jelly | Ironhand: also, bnx2 often comes in tarball flavor by the vendor if you're running server hardware. |
| 15:26.19 | nsadmin | what is the version of xen that's available on recent kernels and recent debians? |
| 15:28.00 | Ironhand | I'm not sure... 3.2? 3.3? |
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| 15:34.24 | Acony | I notice that this version of nautilus is very old, should I install testing instead of stable version ? |
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| 15:36.19 | nsadmin | Ironhand: have you played with it? can you run a 64b dom0 and 32b domUs? |
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| 15:37.24 | nsadmin | Acony: if you're running debian stable, it's problematic to install packages from testing |
| 15:37.37 | Ironhand | nsadmin: I haven't been able to get Xen working yet b/c of these issues |
| 15:38.01 | Ironhand | nsadmin: well, it runs, but only on kernels with no working network interfaces |
| 15:38.22 | Ironhand | nsadmin: and I prefer to keep the amount of testing I do on a physical terminal attached to the server to a minimum |
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| 15:39.40 | pom | I experienced a complete server freeze. Nothing particular in syslog except a gap. Is there any other way to get information about this? |
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| 15:41.13 | nsadmin | eek, an actual serial terminal?! |
| 15:41.32 | Ironhand | nsadmin: oh, no just a monitor + keyboard... |
| 15:41.55 | Ironhand | nsadmin: guess it doesn't qualify as a terminal as such but it gets the idea across (or not) |
| 15:41.57 | toolz | I'm trying to mount my usb stick and it says mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
| 15:42.08 | toolz | I use mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt |
| 15:42.54 | nsadmin | mount -t thetype /dev/sdb1 /mnt |
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| 15:44.39 | nsadmin | without the -t it's trying (and failing) to autodetect the type |
| 15:44.51 | nsadmin | that much is fact |
| 15:45.16 | toolz | nsadmin, I try using -t fat32 |
| 15:45.18 | toolz | or fat |
| 15:45.20 | toolz | same thing |
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| 15:45.34 | Ironhand | toolz: are you sure it's correctly finding the usb stick? |
| 15:45.38 | toolz | yes |
| 15:45.41 | Ironhand | try: cat /proc/partitions |
| 15:45.45 | Ironhand | does sdb1 appear there? |
| 15:45.45 | toolz | I noticed on the console it did |
| 15:46.02 | toolz | yes |
| 15:46.03 | Ironhand | did the console also confirm it's on sdb? |
| 15:46.07 | toolz | yes |
| 15:46.21 | toolz | 8 16 1990656 sdb 8 17 1990624 sdb1 |
| 15:46.38 | Ironhand | hmmmm filesystem could be corrupt then... |
| 15:47.02 | nsadmin | and/or stick is unformatted (it is partitioned) |
| 15:47.10 | pistache | what does blkinfo say about it ? |
| 15:47.10 | toolz | just formated it as fat32 |
| 15:47.13 | toolz | from windows |
| 15:47.33 | nsadmin | try -t vfat |
| 15:48.48 | toolz | I reformatted it from windows |
| 15:48.55 | toolz | as fat not fat32 |
| 15:48.57 | toolz | and worked |
| 15:49.15 | toolz | ok I found the issue |
| 15:49.17 | nsadmin | oh, so maybe you don't have vfat support in your kernel? |
| 15:49.22 | toolz | I do, zcat netboot.tar.gz > /dev/sdb |
| 15:49.30 | toolz | after that I cannot mount it anymore |
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| 15:49.47 | \amethyst | that would do it |
| 15:49.48 | nsadmin | that blows away everything |
| 15:49.53 | toolz | I got the latest i386 from http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 15:50.03 | Josh_ | What's a good socks5 proxy? Is tsocks a proxy server, or just a 'proxifier' for applications? |
| 15:50.04 | nsadmin | incl. the partition tabler |
| 15:50.22 | \amethyst | toolz: boot.img.gz is the one you put on the disk |
| 15:50.37 | \amethyst | toolz: netboot.tar.gz is to put on a *server* to netboot from |
| 15:51.08 | toolz | ok sorry |
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| 15:53.29 | nsadmin | netboot.tar.gz is just for booting and not necessarily installing? |
| 15:53.41 | toolz | so I put boot., I mount and I put the debian iso on it? |
| 15:54.47 | nsadmin | boot.img.gz is to be written to the whole disk? or the partition? |
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| 15:54.56 | nsadmin | whole stick that is |
| 15:56.40 | toolz | yea |
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| 15:57.15 | toolz | just did zcat boot.img.gz > /dev/sdb, waiting to load, I will mount and add debian 5.0.3 iso on it |
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| 15:58.30 | nsadmin | toolz: ok, so you just wrote it to the "whole disk" (err whole stick) |
| 15:58.37 | toolz | yeah |
| 15:59.16 | nsadmin | so now, the question is, is the disk still formatted? could you mount it? |
| 15:59.54 | Ironhand | nsadmin/jelly: managed to get the broadcom network devices working after just using the vendor supplied tarball... thanks for the tip & your help (and why didn't I think of that before...) |
| 16:00.42 | nsadmin | Ironhand, did the tarball have a precompiled module? |
| 16:01.39 | Ironhand | nsadmin: nope, built from source |
| 16:01.41 | toolz | I was able to mount it |
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| 16:02.55 | nsadmin | toolz: so you now have /dev/sdb1 on mnt, type fat? |
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| 16:03.11 | toolz | I didnt specified the filessystem |
| 16:03.13 | toolz | it worked |
| 16:03.22 | nsadmin | ok, cool :) |
| 16:03.23 | toolz | I added .iso on it but on install it tells me no .iso on disk |
| 16:03.24 | toolz | wtf. |
| 16:03.45 | toolz | debian-503-i386-netinst.iso is on it. |
| 16:04.06 | toolz | boot.img.gz is - lenny-custom-0116.iso - kernel version 2.6.32 from http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
| 16:04.10 | toolz | thats why it doesnt work? |
| 16:04.11 | nsadmin | hmm. I wonder if you copy the file into the partition or write it raw onto the partition |
| 16:04.40 | toolz | I just moved it from my disk |
| 16:04.48 | toolz | after I mounted the stick of course |
| 16:04.54 | nsadmin | so it was a file copy |
| 16:05.04 | nsadmin | the .iso file is on the filesystem of sdb1 |
| 16:05.10 | toolz | yes |
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| 16:05.23 | toolz | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 157255680 2009-09-06 15:07 debian-503-i386-netinst.iso |
| 16:06.06 | nsadmin | ok, it's good you were able to do that; at least we know the stick works. |
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| 16:06.34 | nsadmin | my suggestion now is to go back to the instructions with the following question in mindL |
| 16:06.42 | toolz | yeah it boots I get the screen but it says it doesnt find the isos |
| 16:06.44 | c_nick | Hi can Debian Lenny install and work on a P4 845GV chipset |
| 16:07.02 | c_nick | i got 1 GB RAM |
| 16:07.02 | nsadmin | should you copy the file into the partition or write it raw onto the partition |
| 16:07.34 | toolz | no idea? |
| 16:07.54 | nsadmin | is getting really curious, so... |
| 16:08.27 | toolz | you mean I have to save the file directly to it after I mount the stick? |
| 16:08.30 | toolz | I do that now |
| 16:09.00 | nsadmin | well I don't know for sure, because I haen't read the instructions |
| 16:09.06 | nsadmin | what's your arch? |
| 16:09.43 | toolz | it says if I use a netinstall image it should be the same version |
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| 16:10.00 | nsadmin | same as what? |
| 16:10.08 | toolz | wtf where can I find the same version as that image from http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
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| 16:10.31 | nsadmin | what two things is it saying have to be the same? |
| 16:10.56 | toolz | In this case a Debian Stable net-install image is used. You may also use a business card iso. Nevertheless, you should be sure to use the same version of the ISO-image as the image.tar.gz that was used before. |
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| 16:12.09 | nsadmin | ok, why kmuto btw? do you have specialized hardware? what's your cpu? |
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| 16:13.00 | nsadmin | ok, you probably didn't use an image.tar.gz... do I have that right? |
| 16:13.13 | toolz | cpu core i7 860 |
| 16:13.18 | Josh_ | I'm reading that dante-server isn't included in lenny repos, but a newer version is available on squeeze. How would I install the squeeze version on my lenny environment? |
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| 16:13.28 | toolz | i used: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/2.6.32/hd-media/boot.img.gz |
| 16:13.42 | nsadmin | ok |
| 16:14.06 | toolz | ok lol.. now it tells me the iso has been found and at the next screen asks for cd-rom and kernel modules |
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| 16:14.23 | pluesch0r | hi everybody. |
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| 16:14.41 | pluesch0r | is there a way to globally set $PS1 (even for users that have already been created)? |
| 16:14.50 | nsadmin | that's probably in the iso image |
| 16:14.51 | pigdude | I'm looking for an editor with the following: An usable, embedded file browser pane. A usable, embedded terminal pane. Decent support for Python, JS, Ruby. Ideas? |
| 16:15.00 | nsadmin | you got a netinst, yes? |
| 16:15.04 | pigdude | Geany is very close except its filebrowser is no good |
| 16:15.05 | pluesch0r | i.e. i'm looking for a file that will get sourced by bash after all those ~/.bashrc files and so on have been sourced. |
| 16:15.23 | pigdude | I've been using vim for a while now |
| 16:15.37 | toolz | yes nsadmin |
| 16:15.49 | nsadmin | ok, what arch is it? |
| 16:16.07 | nsadmin | (1) the boot.img and (2) the netinst |
| 16:16.12 | toolz | http://ftp.acc.umu.se/debian-cd/5.0.3/i386/iso-cd/debian-503-i386-netinst.iso |
| 16:16.23 | sephy | pluesch0r: Symlink bashrc to a read-only file? |
| 16:16.23 | nsadmin | oh, i386 |
| 16:16.25 | toolz | this is what I got, and the boot.img I told you above, from kmuto |
| 16:16.41 | toolz | I got i386 from kmuto aswell |
| 16:16.43 | pluesch0r | sephy: ? |
| 16:17.01 | pluesch0r | sephy: this is about deploying a new prompt on 100+ servers. |
| 16:17.12 | pluesch0r | i don't want to iterate over all user directories and so on. |
| 16:17.14 | sephy | pluesch0r: I recommend not following my idea then |
| 16:17.19 | nsadmin | ok, so how far did you get... the stick boots? |
| 16:17.46 | toolz | nsadmin, it boots it finds the is and it complains the data on cd rom can not be read and if I want to continue without loading kernel modules |
| 16:17.58 | toolz | is* |
| 16:18.01 | toolz | iso* |
| 16:18.13 | Josh_ | I'm reading that dante-server isn't included in lenny repos, but a newer version is available on squeeze. How would I install the squeeze version on my lenny environment? |
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| 16:19.20 | jelly | Josh_: you'd backport it. /msg dpkg ssb |
| 16:19.40 | nsadmin | Josh_: try either finding a backport or (as jelly says) make one |
| 16:19.56 | toolz | why the heck does it complain about cd-rom |
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| 16:20.10 | toolz | cant read data from cd-rom, *duh* I'm from a stick now.. |
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| 16:20.21 | Josh_ | dpkg isnt responding to me, hmm |
| 16:20.21 | dpkg | no idea, Josh_ |
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| 16:21.30 | riot | why does my box ignore bitmap fonts residing in .fonts? No matter what target the symlink /etc/fonts/conf.d/70_*_bitmap aims at.. :( |
| 16:22.06 | toolz | nsadmin, any idea? |
| 16:22.12 | pluesch0r | meh. |
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| 16:22.36 | c_nick | which debian to download i got a P4 845GV 1GB RAM I am here http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.3/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 16:23.05 | sephy | c_nick: cd1 |
| 16:23.35 | toolz | oh well.. lol with kmuto img it tells me no ethernet card was detected |
| 16:23.36 | toolz | wtf.. |
| 16:23.57 | toolz | any idea how can I get debian installed on this shit machine, the hell with new hardware |
| 16:26.16 | toolz | nsadmin any idea? |
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| 16:27.16 | themill | toolz: what network card does it have? the relevant line from "lspci -nn" (or just the PCI-Id) would be handy |
| 16:27.19 | zub | toolz: wasn't following your conversation, but generally I'd inspect what HW the box has and what's the level of support of the devices in kernel |
| 16:27.25 | nsadmin | just a sec. |
| 16:27.41 | zub | maybe you'd have to build a newer kernel... |
| 16:28.27 | nsadmin | ok, if it didn't detect the net card, you can "leave network unconfigured" for the moment and have it install the base from the netinst image |
| 16:29.16 | toolz | it doesnt work its a net install image |
| 16:29.33 | nsadmin | the netinstall images contain the base packages |
| 16:29.46 | nsadmin | the business card images do not |
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| 16:30.09 | zub | toolz: alternativel you could install on a HDD in a different box and then nmove it to your box |
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| 16:30.36 | toolz | it finds my nic on a default netinstall cd and it doesnt see hdd |
| 16:30.37 | zub | still you'd have to resolve the netcard eventually, but you could do it from the newly installed debain - if you get kernel sources and other necessary stuff installed |
| 16:30.44 | toolz | it sees the disk on this one but not the nic |
| 16:30.47 | toolz | crazy |
| 16:31.02 | toolz | its motherboard nic |
| 16:31.05 | toolz | realtek I guess |
| 16:31.09 | toolz | from gigabyte |
| 16:31.32 | zub | lspci shold tell you more |
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| 16:31.58 | toolz | rtl8110d or something like this cant remember |
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| 16:32.29 | nsadmin | can you lspci -nn at the moment? |
| 16:32.29 | riot | now i have the font listed with fc-list but it still doesn't appear in xfontsel et al :/ |
| 16:32.38 | riot | i hate the shitty font-system. |
| 16:32.41 | tbf|afk | goodbye |
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| 16:34.01 | LuciusMare | hello, can debian mount ext4? |
| 16:34.21 | nsadmin | if its kernel can, then yes. |
| 16:34.26 | riot | have them in inkscape but not in x.. WHY?!?! *cries*hates* |
| 16:34.46 | riot | LuciusMare: everything that can mount ext2, can also mount ext4. |
| 16:34.53 | cahoot | riot: xset fp rehash? |
| 16:35.02 | LuciusMare | the netinstall cd does not seem to be able to do so |
| 16:36.08 | toolz | its rtl8111/8168b from lspci |
| 16:36.19 | nsadmin | toolz: what choices are you presented with? |
| 16:36.51 | nsadmin | ok, find the same line using lspci -nn |
| 16:37.07 | riot | cahoot: good idea, but, nope. |
| 16:37.11 | toolz | nsadmin no choices, just failed |
| 16:37.27 | nsadmin | ok, can you run lspci -nn? |
| 16:37.41 | riot | could this be related to my xorg.conf? Theres absolutely no font-section in there (its nvidia-generated..) |
| 16:37.56 | toolz | nsadmin, yes, same thing as above |
| 16:38.01 | toolz | what else you need from the line? |
| 16:38.17 | cahoot | riot: fc-cache -fv already run? |
| 16:38.27 | LuciusMare | and i sincerely hope i didnt just set my precious /home to "use as swap" |
| 16:38.29 | nsadmin | the thing that looks like [1a3d:5a0d] |
| 16:38.41 | riot | yes. fc-list lists the wanted fonts. inkscape has them but they look substituted with a system default. |
| 16:38.50 | toolz | 10ec:8168 |
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| 16:39.17 | toolz | i moved forward without networking and its formatting.. |
| 16:39.18 | riot | font-shit drives me mad everytime i have to install a new debian :/ |
| 16:39.27 | nsadmin | so what I propose is to download some slightly different images according to what judd is gonna say... |
| 16:39.35 | nsadmin | judd pciid 10ec:8168 |
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| 16:40.02 | themill | dpkg: tell nsadmin about judd |
| 16:40.15 | toolz | I dont understand |
| 16:40.28 | cahoot | riot: this might be obsolete but ISTR there used to be an option enable/disable bitmapped fonts men configuring X in debian |
| 16:40.33 | nsadmin | themill: can you look up that pciid? :) |
| 16:40.41 | cahoot | s/men/when/ |
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| 16:42.19 | nsadmin | toolz: judd is a bot that could tell you about the device by its pciid (the number you just gave) |
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| 16:42.20 | themill | nsadmin, toolz: [10ec:8168] is 'RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with kernel module 'r8169' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10ec:8168 |
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| 16:42.20 | nsadmin | but judd is on vacation |
| 16:42.20 | nsadmin | perfect :) |
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| 16:42.22 | themill | has a lot more latency than judd |
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| 16:42.45 | nsadmin | thank you, that was a big help |
| 16:42.48 | toolz | themill, so it should work on this aswell no? |
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| 16:43.19 | themill | the network card should work with the lenny installer, according to that |
| 16:43.33 | toolz | well.. seems it doesnt.. |
| 16:43.35 | nsadmin | toolz: try modprobe r8169 |
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| 16:46.37 | toolz | I will retry to install |
| 16:46.51 | nsadmin | toolz: ok |
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| 16:47.04 | nsadmin | you can stay here while you install? |
| 16:47.51 | toolz | yes |
| 16:47.56 | toolz | I am on a windows machine now |
| 16:48.17 | p3rror | helo |
| 16:48.20 | nsadmin | now before it gets to the part where it wants to configure your net... we're going to try that modprobe |
| 16:48.26 | toolz | ok |
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| 16:48.35 | p3rror | are there anyone experienced with gfs2 |
| 16:48.51 | p3rror | i need some help |
| 16:49.07 | p3rror | well i'm setting a shared partition between two nodes |
| 16:49.12 | gooser | I'm having trouble with Wicd and NetworkManager. In an area where there are multiple wireless access points of the same essid, the managers will decide which one to connect to based on signal strength. This is problematic for my because not all of these APs have an internet connection. Wicd and NetworkManager cannot select based on hardware address, so are there any other managers out there that can remedy this problem? |
| 16:49.37 | p3rror | i run luci on first node |
| 16:49.47 | p3rror | on the first node i mount the gfs2 paritition without problem |
| 16:49.55 | p3rror | but on the second node |
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| 16:50.01 | p3rror | when i type sudo mount -o acl -t gfs2 /dev/sdd3 /home/pgdata/ |
| 16:50.19 | p3rror | i have a delay and my partition is not mounted |
| 16:50.36 | p3rror | and there are no event in the logs |
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| 16:51.22 | toolz | nsadmin, its 8168 not 8169 |
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| 16:51.33 | toolz | but anyway I tryed both and I get FATAL: module r8169 not found. |
| 16:51.40 | nsadmin | hmm. |
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| 16:52.36 | toolz | any other images besides kmuto? |
| 16:52.45 | toolz | which can detect my hdd and nic? |
| 16:53.05 | nsadmin | can you try skipping the network config? |
| 16:53.28 | toolz | I tryed once but after installation it doesnt even boot |
| 16:53.37 | toolz | it doesnt load any kernel modules |
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| 16:54.32 | nsadmin | hmm. what does uname -r say? |
| 16:55.03 | toolz | 2.6.32-trunk-486 |
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| 16:55.26 | nsadmin | hmm, trunk |
| 16:55.44 | nsadmin | probably it installs modules later? |
| 16:56.01 | toolz | it asks me for modules but it doesnt find them anywhere |
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| 16:57.43 | toolz | no kernel modules were found. this probably due to o mismatch between the kernel used by this version of the installer and the kernel version available in the archive |
| 16:57.47 | toolz | here |
| 16:57.47 | starenka_ | hi, after x crash my ttys won't show up, all i get after ctrl alt fx i get screen of f7+ w/ less colors. this wont fix till restart. any clues how to fix this? btw my x crash anytime when terminl in yakuake takes a lot of cpu, f.e while compiling... can sbdy help? |
| 16:58.04 | starenka_ | using lenny |
| 16:58.10 | nsadmin | ok, let's try to match things up then |
| 16:58.25 | toolz | but how |
| 16:58.37 | toolz | will I need a 2.6.26 image? |
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| 16:59.30 | nsadmin | not sure yet... |
| 16:59.43 | nsadmin | but take a look at that web page... http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10ec:8168 |
| 17:00.04 | toolz | I noticed it |
| 17:00.21 | nsadmin | you'll notice it knows you have an 8168 but the driver name is r8169 (which probably handles either device) |
| 17:00.45 | nsadmin | but either way for some reason you don't have modules |
| 17:00.53 | toolz | yeah |
| 17:01.06 | nsadmin | someone help us :P |
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| 17:01.21 | toolz | is there any 2.6.26 which can dedect my hdd? |
| 17:01.27 | toolz | on kmuto? |
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| 17:01.55 | riot | re |
| 17:02.01 | riot | cahoot: anymore ideas? |
| 17:02.11 | nsadmin | themill: could you do another pciid search? working on the id now |
| 17:02.27 | nsadmin | toolz: can you get the pciid for it? lspci -nn |
| 17:02.32 | toolz | already did |
| 17:02.49 | nsadmin | what's the id? |
| 17:03.00 | toolz | 10ec:8168 |
| 17:03.03 | toolz | this one? |
| 17:03.13 | nsadmin | tyhat's for the net card |
| 17:03.17 | toolz | yes |
| 17:03.21 | nsadmin | I mean for the hd controller |
| 17:03.29 | toolz | oh no idea let me check |
| 17:05.08 | toolz | 197b:2363 |
| 17:05.32 | themill | toolz, nsadmin: [197b:2363] is 'JMB362/JMB363 Serial ATA Controller' from 'JMicron Technology Corp.' with kernel modules 'jmicron', 'ahci' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=197b:2363 |
| 17:05.33 | toolz | sata controller |
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| 17:06.15 | toolz | ok this is most probably a mismatch between boot.img and .iso, different kernels |
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| 17:06.25 | riot | my xfs accepts all truetype fonts i have in .fonts but not the pcf.gz i put there.. Same files work on three other boxes at the same locations :( |
| 17:06.26 | toolz | it does say it in a message when it doesnt load modules |
| 17:06.29 | simonrvn | !pciids |
| 17:06.29 | dpkg | it has been said that pciids is run update-pciids or see http://pciids.sourceforge.net/, or run update-pciids to update your PCI ID database, if your lspci output shows "unknown device" |
| 17:07.06 | simonrvn | !pciid 197b:2363 |
| 17:07.28 | toolz | themill any idea? |
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| 17:07.56 | themill | toolz: nope. I can't see why the normal lenny installer didn't work on that hardware |
| 17:08.26 | simonrvn | it should, it's been in the kernel a long while IIRC |
| 17:08.56 | toolz | themill no idea .. |
| 17:09.16 | toolz | the hard disk is a wd black edition 500gb 32mb cache |
| 17:09.33 | nsadmin | toolz: let's try having you download this: http://mirror.home-dn.net/d-i/2.6.32/amd64/lenny-custom-0116.iso |
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| 17:09.47 | nsadmin | oops not that |
| 17:09.51 | toolz | I need i386 |
| 17:09.51 | toolz | :D |
| 17:10.13 | nsadmin | http://mirror.home-dn.net/d-i/2.6.32/lenny-custom-0116.iso |
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| 17:10.26 | nsadmin | that one |
| 17:10.28 | simonrvn | did he try to flip that jumper or whatever? i remember you had to do something to the drive itself... can't rememmber what, or is that even eeded anymore. |
| 17:10.40 | toolz | ok nsadmin |
| 17:11.05 | nsadmin | and then mount the stick as before, remove the existing iso and copy this one to it |
| 17:11.43 | nsadmin | it doesn't look like you need .32 but oh well... it's worth a shot I guess |
| 17:11.51 | toolz | trying |
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| 17:11.55 | toolz | but this isnt netinstall? |
| 17:12.16 | nsadmin | well I think so; it's the approximate size of a netinstall |
| 17:12.29 | simonrvn | netinst averages 150 MB |
| 17:12.31 | toolz | will see |
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| 17:12.36 | nsadmin | right |
| 17:12.43 | nsadmin | was gonna say exactly that |
| 17:12.52 | toolz | this is 163M |
| 17:13.00 | simonrvn | it's a netinst |
| 17:13.06 | nsadmin | it's probably a netinst :) |
| 17:13.11 | toolz | ok downloaded it on the stick, I will umount and retry |
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| 17:13.42 | nsadmin | simonrvn what's the deal with some of these installers not having kernel modules? |
| 17:14.01 | nsadmin | what I mean is... |
| 17:14.07 | simonrvn | pff. no idea. that's weird. |
| 17:14.15 | nsadmin | what do you do if it asks for modules? |
| 17:14.59 | simonrvn | i tend to run expert, and load some extra ones, but they don't always have the ones you want. hopefuly that will be rectified.... |
| 17:15.13 | nsadmin | it said something about version mismatch between available archive kernel and installer kernel |
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| 17:16.08 | simonrvn | mm |
| 17:16.11 | LuciusMare_ | i just installed lenny, and it cant mount ext4 - how can i make it? |
| 17:16.59 | starenka_ | LuciusMare_: i don't think there's an ext4 support in lenny's kernel in the first place... |
| 17:17.01 | Stereo | LuciusMare_: it's not supported in the stable kernel |
| 17:17.09 | LuciusMare_ | wagh |
| 17:17.10 | Stereo | try the backports kernel maybe? |
| 17:17.12 | simonrvn | there isn't any |
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| 17:17.22 | LuciusMare_ | okay, how do i upgrade to...squeeze? |
| 17:17.23 | toolz | nsadmin ok now it couldnt find any iso |
| 17:17.31 | toolz | though I checked twice and its ok |
| 17:17.33 | toolz | DOH. |
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| 17:17.54 | nsadmin | the instructions say it looks for any file ending in .iso |
| 17:18.01 | nsadmin | how did you copy? |
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| 17:18.39 | toolz | exactly as I did with the other one |
| 17:18.40 | nsadmin | also just to let you know... I can't see your screen :) did you know that? :) |
| 17:18.55 | toolz | mounted the stick and saved it directly on it |
| 17:19.11 | nsadmin | so you mounted the sdb1 partition and copied it to /mnt? |
| 17:19.17 | toolz | yep |
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| 17:19.33 | nsadmin | is that your only copy at the moment? |
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| 17:20.57 | nsadmin | alright, let's redo this once more |
| 17:21.07 | toolz | I used zcat one more time |
| 17:21.12 | nsadmin | get this boot.img.gz: |
| 17:21.19 | toolz | which one |
| 17:21.21 | nsadmin | http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/2.6.32/hd-media/boot.img.gz |
| 17:21.28 | toolz | I have it |
| 17:21.36 | nsadmin | that;s the exact one you have? |
| 17:21.42 | toolz | exactly the same |
| 17:21.45 | nsadmin | ok |
| 17:22.19 | nsadmin | if you rewrote it, remount and see if the iso is still there |
| 17:22.48 | toolz | isnt there |
| 17:22.58 | toolz | mounted and adding the iso again |
| 17:23.05 | nsadmin | ok |
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| 17:25.04 | nsadmin | toolz: status? |
| 17:25.16 | toolz | just umounted |
| 17:25.26 | toolz | going to install again |
| 17:25.35 | nsadmin | ok... |
| 17:26.57 | toolz | INSANEEEE! |
| 17:26.59 | toolz | works |
| 17:27.04 | toolz | its looking for dhcp network |
| 17:27.08 | toolz | that means it saw it!!!!! |
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| 17:27.23 | nsadmin | so doing the zcat of boot.img.gz to the device actually writes an empty partition to the stick |
| 17:27.40 | LuciusMare | so,how do i upgrade from lenny to squeeze? |
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| 17:28.11 | nsadmin | so (for example) if you write the iso to it and -then- write the boot.img.gz... it erases the iso |
| 17:28.13 | LuciusMare | )agh, kdm does not work, when i log in,it throws me back to the login screen and now, when i am in console it tries to take over it every once in a while |
| 17:28.50 | toolz | nsadmin, I never wrote using zcat after I've added the image |
| 17:29.09 | toolz | nsadmin, now I need to install a bigmem kernel as the machine has 8GB of ram :d |
| 17:29.16 | nsadmin | strange. maybe something wrote something else |
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| 17:29.34 | nsadmin | toolz: that machine is not an amd64 type? |
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| 17:30.09 | toolz | well I used before amd64 kernels and it wasnt running what I expected, I had alot of crash of my files, things that I run |
| 17:30.13 | toolz | so I run i386 |
| 17:30.23 | toolz | prolly because of missing libraries and stuff |
| 17:30.44 | nsadmin | I'd suggest you go to an i686 bigmem |
| 17:30.56 | toolz | I will after I install :d |
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| 17:31.17 | LuciusMare | hello? :( |
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| 17:32.04 | nsadmin | LuciusMare: kdm is probably working, something it's firing up is probably not |
| 17:32.20 | LuciusMare | i actually meant the lenny>squeeze upgrade |
| 17:32.23 | nsadmin | try adding a new user and log in as that user |
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| 17:32.36 | LuciusMare | er |
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| 17:32.39 | LuciusMare | i actually installed kdm |
| 17:32.40 | LuciusMare | but not kde |
| 17:32.43 | LuciusMare | problem solved! |
| 17:32.44 | LuciusMare | :D |
| 17:32.53 | nsadmin | oh that explains something! |
| 17:33.02 | LuciusMare | okay,now the update? |
| 17:33.23 | LuciusMare | should i just change it in apt.sources.list and dist-upgrade? |
| 17:33.24 | nsadmin | I don't personally know, but the bot probably does |
| 17:33.28 | nsadmin | !squeeze |
| 17:33.28 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the next release, Debian GNU/Linux 6.0. It is the three-eyed space alien. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/09/msg00000.html Ask me about <testing>. Not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze. See also <squeeze kernel>. |
| 17:33.36 | varlon | hi, I need to use lighttpd 1.4.24 (I need ssl.verifyclient options), so I download src from lighttpd.net, how can I build deb-packege from sources? |
| 17:34.07 | nsadmin | does it have a debian dir in the source? |
| 17:34.27 | chops1 | varlon: What Debian version are you using? |
| 17:34.51 | varlon | stable |
| 17:34.55 | varlon | Lenny |
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| 17:35.36 | chops1 | varlon: Did you check backports? |
| 17:35.42 | varlon | lenny hav 1.4.19 which have not support ssl.verifyclients |
| 17:36.06 | nsadmin | that's pretty close tho... maybe backports has that or a later one |
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| 17:36.38 | varlon | no, in backports have not lighttpd |
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| 17:36.54 | nsadmin | ok, look at the squeeze version |
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| 17:37.03 | chops1 | !tell varlon about ssb |
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| 17:37.14 | nsadmin | and you'll have to do a ssb :) |
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| 17:37.47 | nsadmin | SundaySqueezeBackport |
| 17:37.59 | nike | I am scared I lost my RAID-5 data: http://pastebin.ca/1757042 |
| 17:38.26 | nsadmin | restore from your backup |
| 17:38.44 | varlon | hmmm, also I can include squeeze repos and update my distro |
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| 17:38.49 | varlon | thanks |
| 17:38.53 | LuciusMare_ | hm |
| 17:38.57 | chops1 | varlon: No |
| 17:38.58 | nsadmin | yes you can do that too |
| 17:39.07 | varlon | :-) |
| 17:39.13 | riot | have some problems with a bitmap-font. Every ttf inside my ~/.fonts is available just the bitmap-fonts not. I have relinked /etc/fonts/conf.d/70_yes_bitmaps but it doesn't help. |
| 17:39.14 | nsadmin | it may or may not be necessary, but you can do it |
| 17:39.40 | LuciusMare_ | aw,great |
| 17:39.42 | toolz | nsadmin, installed |
| 17:39.43 | toolz | 2.6.32-trunk-686 |
| 17:39.48 | LuciusMare_ | so it seems it works |
| 17:39.58 | LuciusMare_ | brb |
| 17:39.59 | chops1 | varlon: If you want stable, stick with stable unless you're absolutely sure you're okay with upgrading to testing (generally doing it just to get a single upgraded package is a bad idea unless it's a not-very-important personal system) |
| 17:40.22 | nsadmin | toolz: nice. so... are you booted into your new install? |
| 17:41.02 | varlon | chops1, thanks. I understand you thoughts |
| 17:41.55 | nsadmin | if it's some kind of work machine that the company owns and it serves every employee... it's kindof a bad idea :) |
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| 17:44.02 | riot | ooookay, got that fixed. |
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| 17:47.34 | nike | nsadmin: I want to try and save this array. |
| 17:48.03 | nike | I see 2 drives dropped out, but I am very confident that one of those drives at least still has the necessary data on them to have the array work again. |
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| 17:48.31 | nsadmin | I don't know about raid5 or raid... but I do know you have to find out why it's not working |
| 17:48.33 | nike | Only I'm not sure how to do this correctly with mdadm |
| 17:48.47 | nike | Well, wait... what? That's not helpful at all. |
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| 17:48.57 | nsadmin | I'm totally clueless as far as mdadm |
| 17:49.12 | nike | Okay. Anyone else? |
| 17:49.27 | toolz | nsadmin, is this ok? linux-image-2.6.30-bpo.2-686-bigmem |
| 17:49.55 | nsadmin | sure I guess :) if you install it, you'll then have two different kernels in your grub menu list |
| 17:50.11 | nsadmin | so you can then try booting it to see if it works |
| 17:50.11 | toolz | I know |
| 17:50.15 | toolz | trying |
| 17:50.25 | toolz | I hope my disk will be ok |
| 17:50.25 | toolz | lol |
| 17:50.36 | nsadmin | there's not a .32 bigmem? |
| 17:50.54 | toolz | nope, apt-get update, and there isnt any |
| 17:51.00 | toolz | is there any? |
| 17:51.00 | toolz | :D |
| 17:51.17 | nsadmin | just a sec |
| 17:51.21 | toolz | k |
| 17:51.38 | toolz | I'll try this one anyway as I have it on other servers and works fine |
| 17:51.45 | toolz | but not sure with the drivers :p |
| 17:52.02 | toolz | rebooted |
| 17:54.22 | nsadmin | toolz: so you're running the new kernel? try: free |
| 17:54.49 | toolz | now |
| 17:54.53 | toolz | I think it is working |
| 17:55.08 | toolz | 2.6.30-bpo.2-686-bigmem |
| 17:55.09 | toolz | yeah :) |
| 17:55.24 | toolz | 8gb memory |
| 17:55.26 | toolz | its fine |
| 17:55.28 | toolz | at least! |
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| 17:55.40 | nsadmin | now it's time to make a backup |
| 17:56.50 | LuciusMare_ | oh,shi- |
| 17:57.05 | LuciusMare_ | i dist-upgraded |
| 17:57.08 | LuciusMare_ | er, was dist-upgrading |
| 17:57.11 | LuciusMare_ | and it suddenly ended |
| 17:57.39 | LuciusMare_ | E: sub process dpkg returned an error code: 1 (udev_150-blabhlab.deb) |
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| 17:59.23 | chops1 | LuciusMare: Can you pastebin the entire upgrade error? |
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| 18:00.03 | LuciusMare_ | Please upgrade your kernel before or while upgrading udev. |
| 18:00.15 | LuciusMare_ | Omg, i would like to, but you wont let me |
| 18:00.51 | LuciusMare_ | can i force installing it and then dist-upgrade and reboot? |
| 18:01.05 | yassine | hi everyone |
| 18:01.11 | yassine | is there a way to expose a dbm database for remote queries? |
| 18:01.14 | chops1 | LuciusMare_: What are you upgrading from and to? |
| 18:01.20 | LuciusMare_ | chops1: lenny to squeeze |
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| 18:01.43 | LuciusMare_ | chops1: i just changed lenny to squeeze in apt source.list, apt-get update and dist-upgraded |
| 18:01.47 | LuciusMare_ | and it got stuck at this |
| 18:02.12 | themill | LuciusMare_: did your kernel get upgraded at the same time? |
| 18:02.19 | LuciusMare_ | i guess not |
| 18:02.25 | au | any ideas on a lightweight blogging thing like wordpress ? |
| 18:03.01 | LuciusMare_ | but i think that forcing installing the udev and then finishing the dist-upgrade should work |
| 18:03.02 | themill | LuciusMare_: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/01/msg00267.html |
| 18:03.15 | LuciusMare_ | er |
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| 18:03.16 | chops1 | LuciusMare_: I wouldn't recommend force-installing it quite yet... no, do not force-install a udev that doesn't work with your current kernel unless all else fails |
| 18:03.43 | LuciusMare_ | themill: would you mind to tinyurl it for me? i dont want to write all this down on a paper |
| 18:04.04 | chops1 | LuciusMare_: Why should he do that instead of you? |
| 18:04.12 | LuciusMare_ | because i cant. |
| 18:04.18 | themill | http://tinyurl.com/y9y8nz2 |
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| 18:04.21 | LuciusMare_ | thanks |
| 18:05.11 | LuciusMare_ | hm, even if i apt-get install -f, it still gets stuck at the udev |
| 18:05.37 | chops1 | LuciusMare_: Can you dpkg -i the old udev package? |
| 18:05.51 | LuciusMare_ | no |
| 18:05.53 | LuciusMare_ | wait |
| 18:05.55 | LuciusMare_ | maybe |
| 18:06.03 | LuciusMare_ | i dont know what one it is,i didnt try it yet |
| 18:06.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | yassine, mount? |
| 18:06.41 | mjmt | My soundcard doesn't always come out of hibernate unscathed. Is there any way of resetting it? |
| 18:06.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | au, "apt-cache search blogging"? |
| 18:07.05 | LuciusMare_ | i still think that forcing installing the new udev, then installing kernel without rebooting should work |
| 18:07.24 | yassine | CutMeOwnThroat, via tcp/ip |
| 18:07.53 | themill | mjmt: the normal culprit on that front for me is not the hardware or the driver but some annoying flash thing having grabbed it. Killing iceweasel solves that. |
| 18:08.04 | mjmt | Hmm yeah could be, thanks. |
| 18:08.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes, so? nfs (insecure) or sshfs? ... or via http for read-only access? |
| 18:08.33 | chops1 | LuciusMare_: That's not the way I would go about it -- I would just recommend putting off the upgrade until things are stabler than they are now. If you want to try, though, go ahead. |
| 18:08.54 | LuciusMare_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.05 | au | sure |
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| 18:09.37 | chops1 | LuciusMare_: I don't know of any straightforward way. There's not an option that I know of for dpkg to ignore errors from the packaging scripts. |
| 18:09.48 | LuciusMare_ | great. |
| 18:10.13 | LuciusMare_ | sits and stares dumbly at his x-less, obsolete box. |
| 18:10.44 | themill | LuciusMare_: as I understand it, downgrade to known-working udev, upgrade kernel, upgrade udev *should* work. |
| 18:11.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah, themills been reading my thoughts |
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| 18:11.17 | chops1 | themill: That's where I was leading him, but he insisted his way was better |
| 18:11.48 | LuciusMare_ | well, i guess i have the working udev already |
| 18:11.54 | LuciusMare_ | i just need to know how to upgrade the kernel |
| 18:12.16 | LuciusMare_ | oh,and it wont let me install anything,because of the interrupted upgrade |
| 18:12.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | also, if you look at one mail later from the one themill linked you to, you see: If you upgrade both the kernel and udev at the same time the udev package will detect it and bypass the version check. |
| 18:12.34 | LuciusMare_ | how can i update it at once? |
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| 18:13.13 | LuciusMare_ | especially when i cant do anything because it wont let me |
| 18:13.22 | yassine | CutMeOwnThroat, the point is that i want my postfix to query mapping information from a remote system as postfix support following: postfix -q "token" tcp:host:port |
| 18:14.24 | themill | CutMeOwnThroat: the email or two following that say that having "trunk" in the kernel package name might break that check, however. |
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| 18:15.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | themill, yeah... I was working my way there |
| 18:15.20 | LuciusMare_ | i know i am being incredibly annoying, but... anybody? |
| 18:15.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | I guess if I had the problem, I would read the full thread there |
| 18:15.38 | LuciusMare_ | i did |
| 18:16.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | what do you conclude from it? |
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| 18:17.05 | LuciusMare_ | i concluded i need to know how to update two things at same time. |
| 18:17.28 | LuciusMare_ | they had the same problem, i see but i didnt really understood what they did |
| 18:17.53 | LuciusMare_ | doubled by my confusion from apt-get that wont let me do anything until i fix it |
| 18:17.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, that's trivial, but might not help if the fix discussed hasn't gone to testing |
| 18:18.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | "aptitude install package1 package2" |
| 18:18.32 | LuciusMare_ | CutMeOwnThroat: outputs: bhahblkahb, you need to fix it first. |
| 18:18.45 | chops1 | LuciusMare_: I and themill both recommended that you downgrade udev to get your package management working again... from there it's not obvious to me that you should proceed to upgrade the kernel and then the udev, but that's what's been recommended. |
| 18:19.35 | LuciusMare_ | okay |
| 18:19.41 | LuciusMare_ | but i dont know what version to downgrade |
| 18:20.05 | chops1 | LuciusMare_: Are you able to downgrade to lenny's version? |
| 18:20.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | with something like dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/<youroldpackage> |
| 18:20.37 | LuciusMare_ | lets see |
| 18:20.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | should be version 0.125-7+lenny3 |
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| 18:21.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | where's judd, btw |
| 18:21.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, we miss you! |
| 18:21.39 | LuciusMare_ | now,update kernel? |
| 18:21.53 | LuciusMare_ | there is a big pile of packages that have "kernel" in their name |
| 18:22.06 | themill | CutMeOwnThroat: udev -- etch: 0.105-4 etch-proposed-updates: 0.105-4etch1 etch-security: 0.105-4etch1 lenny-security: 0.125-7+lenny1 lenny: 0.125-7+lenny3 sid: 150-2 squeeze: 150-2 |
| 18:22.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | themill, kernels |
| 18:22.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 18:22.23 | chops1 | LuciusMare_: So you've downgraded udev and your package management works again? |
| 18:22.27 | LuciusMare_ | god |
| 18:22.29 | LuciusMare_ | nope. |
| 18:22.32 | themill | CutMeOwnThroat: Available kernel versions are: etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-19lenny2); lenny-backports: 2.6.30-bpo.2-686 (2.6.30-8~bpo50+2); squeeze: 2.6.30-2-686 (2.6.30-8squeeze1); sid: 2.6.32-trunk-686 (2.6.32-5) |
| 18:22.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | you're a hell lot slower than judd |
| 18:22.39 | themill | ;( |
| 18:22.42 | chops1 | LuciusMare_: What happens now? Feel free to use pastebin. |
| 18:22.45 | LuciusMare_ | I downgraded, and my pkg managment still does not work |
| 18:22.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | !comfort themill |
| 18:22.47 | LuciusMare_ | same as before |
| 18:22.48 | dpkg | There, there, themill. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 18:22.55 | chops1 | LuciusMare_: What's the exact error? |
| 18:22.58 | LuciusMare_ | whatever i do, "dependencies problem" |
| 18:23.09 | LuciusMare_ | its localized, i dont know how to translate it |
| 18:23.18 | chops1 | LuciusMare_: LANG=C aptitude blah |
| 18:23.19 | LuciusMare_ | "Problem with dependencies, try to run apt-get -f install" |
| 18:23.20 | nsadmin | toolz, you still hanging in there? |
| 18:23.31 | nsadmin | emmadently not... |
| 18:23.41 | chops1 | LuciusMare_: Can you set sources.list back to lenny and run aptitude -f install? |
| 18:23.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | who's emma |
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| 18:24.01 | LuciusMare_ | unmet depndencies,try apt-get... |
| 18:24.02 | chops1 | LuciusMare_: Actually, no... being able to see the full error would be much more helpful. Are you able to pastebin it? |
| 18:24.04 | LuciusMare_ | or specify a solution |
| 18:24.08 | chops1 | !tell LuciusMare_ about pastebin pipe |
| 18:24.08 | nsadmin | that's what I say! |
| 18:24.14 | LuciusMare_ | ill try my best |
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| 18:26.50 | LuciusMare_ | omg |
| 18:26.55 | LuciusMare_ | no, i cant pastebin it |
| 18:27.42 | LuciusMare_ | aptitude blah >perl paste2pastebin.pl = E: couldnt find package paste2pastebin.pl |
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| 18:28.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | >perl? |
| 18:28.22 | LuciusMare_ | eh |
| 18:28.27 | LuciusMare_ | that was supposed to be a pipe |
| 18:28.32 | LuciusMare_ | (it is in the command) |
| 18:28.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's creating a file called perl |
| 18:29.12 | nsadmin | and probably puttin stuf in it :) |
| 18:29.13 | LuciusMare_ | i know,its in the command correctly |
| 18:29.30 | chops1 | LuciusMare_: "Pipe the command to" means run aptitude blah | perl paste2pastebin.pl |
| 18:29.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | nsadmin, no, because you're not supposed to have more than one filename there :) |
| 18:29.36 | LuciusMare_ | i know. |
| 18:29.37 | chops1 | LuciusMare_: Not > |
| 18:29.40 | LuciusMare_ | i know. |
| 18:29.44 | LuciusMare_ | i know,its in the command correctly |
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| 18:29.59 | LuciusMare_ | ! |
| 18:30.06 | LuciusMare_ | curses his localized keyboard |
| 18:30.17 | LuciusMare_ | okay, it should work now -_- |
| 18:30.50 | LuciusMare_ | perl also outputs an error. |
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| 18:31.11 | LuciusMare_ | has a cursed box |
| 18:31.44 | rgr | With a name like LuciusMare are you surprised ;) ? |
| 18:31.52 | mobidev | hi to all |
| 18:31.59 | LuciusMare_ | rgr: that was a backstab. |
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| 18:32.41 | LuciusMare_ | any more ideas? |
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| 18:32.50 | WireWulf | hi |
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| 18:32.59 | Kottalizer | oO :D |
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| 18:33.14 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 18:33.15 | lenswipe | i have a disc for "Debian Squeeze" |
| 18:33.17 | lenswipe | whats debian squeeze? |
| 18:33.30 | LuciusMare_ | ... |
| 18:33.30 | zleap | testing i think |
| 18:33.30 | chops1 | !squeeze |
| 18:33.31 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the next release, Debian GNU/Linux 6.0. It is the three-eyed space alien. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/09/msg00000.html Ask me about <testing>. Not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze. See also <squeeze kernel>. |
| 18:33.39 | simonrvn | !any ideas |
| 18:33.39 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a box full of condoms, a little sauerkraut, and a dozen sex-crazed kittens. And keep the FBI off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 18:33.39 | nsadmin | debian is a free operating system |
| 18:33.40 | LuciusMare_ | rgr: now i believe you, god must hate me. |
| 18:33.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's the three-eyed space alien |
| 18:33.42 | au | just as I was typing it haha |
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| 18:33.49 | lenswipe | is that like a netbook edition or something? |
| 18:33.59 | nsadmin | squeeze is a particular flavor of debian (the name comes from toy story) |
| 18:34.00 | au | no, next version of debian |
| 18:34.04 | au | I believe |
| 18:34.07 | paradoxmonkey | How are multiple ip addresses for one nic handled in Debian? |
| 18:34.08 | au | testing I think?? |
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| 18:34.30 | nsadmin | yes squeeze is currently also testing |
| 18:34.44 | chops1 | LuciusMare_: Without knowing what particular error perl is giving you we can't give you much advice... "Oh, it doesn't work? Well, let me follow the instructions... huh! It works for me here. Well, something must be different for you or something." :-) |
| 18:34.46 | WireWulf | squeeze :) |
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| 18:35.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | PEBKAC |
| 18:35.15 | LuciusMare_ | chops1: Cant locate WWW/Mechanize.pl in @INC |
| 18:35.35 | nsadmin | oh, you need to install libwww-mechanize-perl |
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| 18:35.47 | lenswipe | so squeeze isnt some slimmed down version? its full blown debian? |
| 18:35.50 | LuciusMare_ | just ran into a deadlock. |
| 18:35.51 | chops1 | LuciusMare_: What nsadmin said... that's explained in the blurb about pastebin pipe |
| 18:35.57 | chops1 | lenswipe: Yes, it is |
| 18:36.05 | chops1 | LuciusMare_: Download the .deb by hand and dpkg -i it is one way around |
| 18:36.15 | chops1 | lenswipe: It is full blown Debian that is |
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| 18:36.32 | nsadmin | oh, you mean "if you squeeze debian do you get debian squeeze"? |
| 18:36.51 | LuciusMare_ | haha |
| 18:36.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | squeezes nsadmin like a ripe lemon. |
| 18:37.03 | paradoxmonkey | ^^ funny |
| 18:37.07 | ravenbird | paradoxmonkey: I don't know. |
| 18:37.25 | LuciusMare_ | chops1: does aptitude have an option to download a deb? |
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| 18:37.48 | nsadmin | that;s what aptitude does! |
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| 18:38.13 | nsadmin | then it passes the buck to dpkg to install that deb |
| 18:38.21 | chops1 | LuciusMare_: aptitude download |
| 18:38.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | if you read that factoid carefull, it ends with... [or] pipe to "nc paste.dyndns.org 1234" |
| 18:38.55 | nsadmin | I wonder if that still workg |
| 18:39.05 | chops1 | CutMeOwnThroat: He may not have nc installed either... |
| 18:39.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | the buck? what's rabbits gotta do with that |
| 18:39.15 | lenswipe | chops1: awesome, thanks |
| 18:39.21 | chops1 | lenswipe: np |
| 18:39.25 | lenswipe | chops1: i got it with a linux magazine, it looked good |
| 18:39.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | chops1, ... but... nc's the swiss army knife of networking |
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| 18:39.42 | lenswipe | chops1: which makes it more annoying that i can only get the CD to boot into Linux Mint >:O |
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| 18:39.52 | chops1 | lenswipe: Haha |
| 18:39.58 | nsadmin | lenswipe: ok, so let's see... what do you want to do? |
| 18:40.02 | lenswipe | cries |
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| 18:40.06 | paradoxmonkey | CutMeOwnThroat, isn't he a bot? |
| 18:40.25 | shortcircuit | Could someone help me find and fix the cause of line 7 in this pastebin? (Trying to get libvirt running again.) http://pastebin.com/m514d2c4d |
| 18:40.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | who... me? |
| 18:40.32 | lenswipe | nsadmin: how about install debian? :p |
| 18:40.39 | LuciusMare_ | screams in killing awe |
| 18:40.49 | lenswipe | chops1: debian is famous for being hard to configure, but i didnt know it was impossible to install... |
| 18:40.51 | LuciusMare_ | no, the dependencies problem wont let me even install a local package |
| 18:40.59 | nsadmin | ok, you ok with burning a cd? |
| 18:41.03 | lenswipe | chops1: although more likely thats a fail on the part of the distributor of the CD |
| 18:41.06 | paradoxmonkey | CutMeOwnThroat: yes you? |
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| 18:41.07 | lenswipe | nsadmin: i have a CD with debian |
| 18:41.09 | chops1 | lenswipe: What's difficult about installing squeeze? |
| 18:41.12 | lenswipe | nsadmin: just cant get it to work |
| 18:41.18 | chops1 | lenswipe: What fails? |
| 18:41.19 | LuciusMare_ | gives up |
| 18:41.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | paradoxmonkey, I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse) |
| 18:41.30 | lenswipe | chops1: the CD fails - it wont boot into squeeze |
| 18:41.30 | LuciusMare_ | can abybody hand me a link to squeeze netinstall...please? |
| 18:41.48 | nsadmin | understood... but in case that cd doesn't do what you want, are you willing to download an image and write it to a blank cd? |
| 18:42.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | LuciusMare_, oh, come on... go and have a coffee or something |
| 18:42.30 | LuciusMare_ | Hey. The problem was solved many times before, so no need to reinventing a way to solve it. It will really be much easier to download the cd. |
| 18:42.31 | lenswipe | chops1: i have an amazing choice of Linux Mint, Linux Mint, Linux Mint or Fedora! >:( |
| 18:42.50 | nsadmin | and you want debian (at the moment) |
| 18:42.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | LuciusMare_, it really ain't that hard |
| 18:42.56 | chops1 | lenswipe: Sounds like you may have got a busted CD. I'd follow nsadmin's advice |
| 18:42.58 | LuciusMare_ | >_> |
| 18:43.06 | paradoxmonkey | Let me guess "Cut Me Own Throat" has some good factoids... |
| 18:43.33 | nsadmin | no, all those factoids are horribly broken... |
| 18:43.35 | LuciusMare_ | i will get more help by getting the link and not being forced to get through imageless,layoutless internet than to solve this. |
| 18:43.44 | LuciusMare_ | !testing |
| 18:43.44 | dpkg | hmm... testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <squeeze>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <lenny->squeeze> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging to use testing and should be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
| 18:43.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | I learn mainly by observing declarative statements such as "x is at http://www.xxx.com", and then reply when people ask things like "where can i find x?" |
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| 18:44.18 | AimHere | In this particular instance, x=pornography |
| 18:44.38 | nsadmin | I learn mainly by observing what a woman does when I walk up to her and smile gently... |
| 18:44.54 | shortcircuit | where can I find a squeeze netinstall CD? |
| 18:45.03 | shortcircuit | looks at CutMeOwnThroat intently. |
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| 18:45.16 | nsadmin | probably somewhere off of www.debian.org |
| 18:45.26 | paradoxmonkey | nsadmin: like ravenbird who keeps asking me if I run windowz |
| 18:45.27 | LuciusMare_ | if you will find it,please hand me a link |
| 18:45.27 | nsadmin | or you can install stable and upgrade to testing |
| 18:45.32 | LuciusMare_ | is getting crazy of this terminal |
| 18:45.35 | shortcircuit | nsadmin: Not something I need to know personally. *throws a sidelong glance at LuciusMare_* |
| 18:46.01 | LuciusMare_ | shortcircuit: it might work for you |
| 18:46.18 | nsadmin | shortcircuit: huh? you -just- asked |
| 18:46.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | shortcircuit, actually you get the stable netinstall, then upgrade to testing :))) |
| 18:46.24 | LuciusMare_ | but for me,i will rather cut my vains and jump in acid than to get through this again, but lets see, worked for many people |
| 18:46.53 | shortcircuit | nsadmin: I noticed Lucius wanted to know, then CutMeOwnThroat described the types of queries it autoresponds to. So I thought I'd test the autorespond. |
| 18:46.57 | LuciusMare_ | acks |
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| 18:47.13 | shortcircuit | naks |
| 18:47.40 | shortcircuit | My current problems are more related to what looks like some weird permissions issue preventing me from getting at the libkvm subsystem. |
| 18:48.29 | nsadmin | oh I get it... but you did have me confused for a moment |
| 18:48.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, there are... "/msg install testing" if someone cares |
| 18:48.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | !confuse nsadmin |
| 18:48.50 | dpkg | Yes, those is my gouda today, nsadmin? Wellies of the Democracy of Tahiti with extra herring. |
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| 18:49.15 | nsadmin | oh hurrry up and rewrite that factoid... |
| 18:49.30 | nsadmin | sheesh, it needs mucho flusshing out |
| 18:49.45 | nsadmin | so does this one: |
| 18:49.48 | nsadmin | !any ideas |
| 18:49.49 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a box full of string, a little vegemite, and 5 or 6 starving dairy cows. And keep the Cabal off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 18:49.50 | shortcircuit | Heh. For a second, I thought the !confuse just spouted a markov line. |
| 18:50.55 | nsadmin | one of those things looks like a shopping cart |
| 18:51.00 | shortcircuit | Ah well. Time to see if anyone in #linux might be interested in this KVM permissions thing. |
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| 18:56.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | nsadmin, nothing wrong with those factoids! |
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| 18:56.44 | paradoxmonkey | ^^, wrong they keep babbling when they aren't asked |
| 18:56.48 | ravenbird | paradoxmonkey: I give up, what is it? |
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| 19:02.54 | jhutchins_lt | How do I delete just a specified package and not any dependencies? |
| 19:03.17 | paradoxmonkey | jhutchins_lt: dpkg --remove ? |
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| 19:04.29 | abrotman | jhutchins_lt: /msg dpkg unmarkauto |
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| 19:05.43 | paradoxmonkey | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.16 | jhutchins_lt | abrotman: How about getting the description of an installed package? |
| 19:07.07 | abrotman | jhutchins_lt: dpkg -l foopkg |
| 19:07.12 | abrotman | or aptitude show foopkg |
| 19:07.56 | greycat | or dpkg --status foopkg |
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| 19:14.13 | ethanol | does console install support sound? |
| 19:14.22 | ethanol | what basic package might I be missing? |
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| 19:14.45 | xyan | linux-sound-base |
| 19:14.48 | cahoot | ethanol: any debian kernel should suffice |
| 19:14.58 | ethanol | I tried basic saytime package, I get /dev/audio: unknown file type ossdsp |
| 19:15.11 | cahoot | ethanol: try speaker-test -t wav -c2 |
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| 19:15.13 | streuner | ethanol: please tell us the output of "lspci -v | grep -i audio" |
| 19:15.38 | ethanol | k 1 sec |
| 19:15.59 | ethanol | nothing |
| 19:16.00 | ethanol | :< |
| 19:16.07 | ethanol | ibook g4 |
| 19:16.21 | cahoot | ethanol: referring to speaker-test or what? |
| 19:16.48 | ethanol | ? |
| 19:16.58 | ethanol | oh, no, wait I will try that |
| 19:17.06 | ethanol | oh, I have no speaker test |
| 19:17.16 | cahoot | ethanol: install alsa-utils |
| 19:17.24 | cusco | err.. hi... |
| 19:17.54 | cusco | my knowledge of set/awk etc is very limited, how do i clear whatever is before "STRING BLA BLA" in a line? |
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| 19:18.13 | ethanol | no sound :( |
| 19:18.22 | cahoot | ethanol: no error? |
| 19:18.39 | ethanol | no just a lot of front left/right alternating output |
| 19:18.55 | greycat | cusco: sed 's/^.*\(STRING BLA BLA\)/\1/' |
| 19:18.55 | ethanol | maybe volume? |
| 19:18.57 | cahoot | ethanol: run /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0 |
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| 19:19.10 | abrotman | ethanol: alsa ? |
| 19:19.18 | cusco | thanks greycat |
| 19:19.27 | simonrvn | ethanol: modprobe snd-powermac |
| 19:19.33 | ethanol | it works! |
| 19:19.37 | ethanol | reset helped :) |
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| 19:20.45 | ethanol | thanks guys |
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| 19:22.57 | helo | if this system's rsyslogd keeps getting stopped, should i consider it a security issue? is there another likely cause? |
| 19:24.44 | cusco | greycat: sorry to be a pain but how to sed an extra ; at the end of each line? |
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| 19:25.14 | cusco | 's/\n/;\n/g' ? |
| 19:25.16 | cusco | :/ |
| 19:25.21 | abrotman | cusco: there is a #sed |
| 19:25.22 | greycat | 's/$/;/ |
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| 19:25.25 | greycat | 's/$/;/' |
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| 19:25.32 | cusco | ok... thanks |
| 19:25.37 | greycat | actually there's a ##sed |
| 19:25.44 | cusco | ok... |
| 19:25.47 | greycat | and don't even get me started on ## |
| 19:25.53 | cusco | I bet #sed refirects there |
| 19:25.58 | abrotman | greycat: how do you replace ## with # :) |
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| 19:27.28 | nsadmin | s.##.#.? |
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| 19:37.33 | paissad_ | i would like to know if like /tmp, /var/tmp is emptied during reboot |
| 19:37.50 | greycat | it is not. |
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| 19:38.12 | fantasticulous | gremlins eat the files |
| 19:38.27 | [SkG] | and they know all about you |
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| 19:47.52 | jhutchins_lt | Maintenance done at reboot is never done on a system that never reboots. |
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| 19:53.22 | LuciusMare | ohai |
| 19:53.24 | LuciusMare | we all know about my problem |
| 19:53.43 | niklaswe | hey |
| 19:53.45 | AimHere | Nothing some penicillin wouldn't cure |
| 19:53.48 | LuciusMare | i magically got squeeze netinstall on my thumb drive |
| 19:53.50 | themill | hides behind abrotman |
| 19:53.54 | LuciusMare | hah |
| 19:53.57 | niklaswe | LuciusMare: whats your problem |
| 19:54.01 | AimHere | Oh the other problem |
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| 19:54.17 | LuciusMare | involved know |
| 19:54.19 | LuciusMare | so |
| 19:54.19 | abrotman | actually .. i haven't touched this problem yet .. i don't think |
| 19:54.29 | abrotman | is this the .30 breaks this and .28 breaks that ? |
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| 19:54.36 | LuciusMare | ... |
| 19:54.42 | abrotman | see .. not a clue |
| 19:54.46 | abrotman | goes back to bliss |
| 19:55.17 | LuciusMare | i got deadlocked in an update, when i got to update my kernel, i need to solve dependencies, but to solve dependencies,i need to upgrade kernel |
| 19:55.38 | LuciusMare | so i got squeeze netinstall .iso |
| 19:55.41 | LuciusMare | but i cant burn it |
| 19:55.54 | LuciusMare | so, can i download the cdrecord.deb,extract it,and then use it? |
| 19:56.24 | simonrvn | hides behind themill |
| 19:56.37 | LuciusMare | guys |
| 19:56.44 | LuciusMare | seriously |
| 19:57.16 | LuciusMare | i was trying to solve this past five hours, my butt hurts, my head hurts, and my mind is seriously corrupted |
| 19:57.21 | simonrvn | i haven't been paying attention, honestly |
| 19:57.24 | valdyn | LuciusMare: we are you using squeeze netinstall when lenny netinstall is recommended? |
| 19:57.33 | LuciusMare | valdyn: because i got deadlocked in the update |
| 19:57.54 | valdyn | LuciusMare: so you didnt follow the upgrade guide? |
| 19:57.58 | LuciusMare | i installed lenny, then i wanted to upgrade to squeeze |
| 19:58.03 | LuciusMare | valdyn: what? |
| 19:58.10 | valdyn | dpkg: lenny->squeeze |
| 19:58.10 | dpkg | Remove any APT source specific to stable (such as volatile), then s/lenny/squeeze/ on your sources.list and then aptitude update && aptitude install aptitude && aptitude safe-upgrade && aptitude full-upgrade. Also ask me about <d-d-a>, <apt-listchanges>, <testing>. |
| 19:58.32 | LuciusMare | i just apt-get dist-upgraded |
| 19:58.34 | JyZyXEL | whats the fastest way to install a package from another version? |
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| 19:59.06 | greycat | JyZyXEL: dpkg -i filename |
| 19:59.08 | LuciusMare | and got deadlocked, as you see |
| 19:59.18 | deltaflyer4747 | Hi folks, can anyone tell me how i can get dump from php? Taken from apt-get |
| 19:59.23 | deltaflyer4747 | (deb lenny) |
| 19:59.27 | JyZyXEL | greycat: but what if that package has requiments? |
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| 19:59.33 | valdyn | LuciusMare: what you call a "deadlock" is a solvable problem that you just are not providing information about |
| 19:59.35 | greycat | you said fastest. |
| 19:59.44 | JyZyXEL | lets say i get a grub-pc for Testing and dpkg -i it on lenny |
| 19:59.46 | LuciusMare | valdyn: what do you need? |
| 19:59.48 | greycat | the fastest way is to have satisfied all prereqs in advance. |
| 19:59.52 | JyZyXEL | grub-pc ofcourse needs grub |
| 19:59.56 | greycat | !tell JyZyXEL about backport |
| 19:59.58 | valdyn | LuciusMare: the actual error messages |
| 19:59.59 | JyZyXEL | what will happen? |
| 20:00.10 | greycat | JyZyXEL: if you have to ask this, use the backports. |
| 20:00.19 | JyZyXEL | no i wanna know what would happen |
| 20:00.24 | JyZyXEL | WOULD |
| 20:00.34 | greycat | You would get an error. |
| 20:00.42 | LuciusMare | valdyn: udev says that to upgrade, it needs newer kernel, and interrupts. - anything i want to do, ends in dependencies solving problem, because it wants to solve it first, which is impossible - including upgrading kernel as the udev wants |
| 20:00.46 | JyZyXEL | it would want the testing version of grub? |
| 20:00.54 | greycat | It would give you an error message. |
| 20:01.05 | greycat | Assuming you have not lied to me about the dependencies. |
| 20:01.10 | valdyn | LuciusMare: thats not the error message, thats a summary by you, i dont want a summary |
| 20:01.11 | deltaflyer4747 | i have dmesg full of segfaults |
| 20:01.58 | LuciusMare | valdyn: why? |
| 20:01.58 | deltaflyer4747 | it is freshly installed system |
| 20:02.02 | valdyn | LuciusMare: if you could properly summarise the error message then you could likely also solve the problem, so please dont bother, just use a paste site |
| 20:02.09 | LuciusMare | i cant. |
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| 20:02.19 | valdyn | LuciusMare: why cant you? |
| 20:02.30 | LuciusMare | how can i paste something when i dont have x, and i cant install anything, such as pastebinit,or so? |
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| 20:02.39 | valdyn | !pastewithoutx |
| 20:02.39 | dpkg | Install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console ; or upload a file to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://paste.debian.net/ ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m, or the "screen" utility also provides keyboard driven copy/paste, or ask me about <paste2pastebin pipe> |
| 20:02.42 | themill | valdyn: that's the summary: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2010/01/msg00267.html |
| 20:02.43 | LuciusMare | agh |
| 20:02.47 | LuciusMare | i CANT install anything |
| 20:02.51 | simonrvn | i bet s/he's running an old kernel and so udev complains |
| 20:03.02 | LuciusMare | which means ANYTHING,in means of i can install NOTHING |
| 20:03.24 | LuciusMare | simonrvn: yes |
| 20:03.25 | greycat | type it. |
| 20:03.45 | valdyn | LuciusMare: themill pasted a link, containing the fix for your issue it seems |
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| 20:03.48 | LuciusMare | greycat: its freaking two pages of data |
| 20:03.55 | greycat | (or, redirect it all to a file, copy that file to a machine with better UI features) |
| 20:04.03 | LuciusMare | valdyn: i tried, but it does not work for me - they try to apt-get -f install which fails. |
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| 20:04.14 | LuciusMare | greycat: no better machine here |
| 20:04.32 | valdyn | LuciusMare: i cant help you without the precise error messages. |
| 20:04.34 | greycat | upload the file to your web-hosting space |
| 20:04.44 | deltaflyer4747 | sendmail |
| 20:04.50 | valdyn | LuciusMare: and if you read what dpkg sais carefully you should notice that you dont need to install anything to get something like cut and paste |
| 20:04.51 | LuciusMare | greycat: i have no webhosting |
| 20:05.06 | LuciusMare | valdyn: how come? |
| 20:05.27 | LuciusMare | people, this system is dead already. i just want to burn the iso |
| 20:05.38 | valdyn | LuciusMare: thats silly, dont respond with a question when im just asking you to read some text |
| 20:05.45 | deltaflyer4747 | can anyone tell me how i can get dump from php taken from apt-get? I have dmesg full of segfaults |
| 20:05.57 | LuciusMare | valdyn: its a very long message |
| 20:06.02 | greycat | LuciusMare: dpkg suggested a place to upload a file |
| 20:06.11 | LuciusMare | ah. |
| 20:06.16 | LuciusMare | but how do i copy/paste it? |
| 20:06.36 | greycat | yourcommand >file 2>&1 |
| 20:06.44 | LuciusMare | heh. |
| 20:07.18 | deltaflyer4747 | heh. |
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| 20:07.21 | greycat | he... doesn't know about Alt-F2? |
| 20:07.29 | LuciusMare | what? |
| 20:07.34 | LuciusMare | i just had to open screen |
| 20:07.41 | deltaflyer4747 | LuciusMare: press alt+f4 |
| 20:08.40 | LuciusMare | deltaflyer4747: ooh, tty4! |
| 20:08.47 | deltaflyer4747 | LuciusMare: to si nevedel? |
| 20:08.58 | LuciusMare | deltaflyer4747: what? |
| 20:08.58 | deltaflyer4747 | :D surprise :-P |
| 20:09.15 | LuciusMare | i dont want to open another tty when i can just open screen |
| 20:09.23 | LuciusMare | what did you say to dpkg? |
| 20:09.28 | LuciusMare | lemme reread it more carefully |
| 20:09.39 | deltaflyer4747 | LuciusMare: what what? you are on iol.cz and you dont know czech? :] |
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| 20:10.00 | LuciusMare | deltaflyer4747: nope, i am just a tourist |
| 20:10.08 | deltaflyer4747 | LuciusMare: i c |
| 20:10.29 | deltaflyer4747 | can anyone tell me how i can get dump from php taken from apt-get? I have dmesg full of segfaults |
| 20:10.35 | LuciusMare | so, what did you tell to the dpkg? |
| 20:11.00 | deltaflyer4747 | what what? |
| 20:11.15 | LuciusMare | they told dpkg something,he outputed a list of xless pastebins |
| 20:11.23 | LuciusMare | i want to reread it more carefully |
| 20:11.29 | LuciusMare | (as you insist) |
| 20:11.42 | deltaflyer4747 | me? I am just asking my question :) |
| 20:12.02 | LuciusMare | but,you have logs,right? |
| 20:12.04 | deltaflyer4747 | i don't know what your problem is |
| 20:12.10 | deltaflyer4747 | nope, i came few mins ago |
| 20:12.12 | LuciusMare | i dont care, what did they tell the bot? |
| 20:12.20 | LuciusMare | you were there yet, i think |
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| 20:12.44 | deltaflyer4747 | !pastewithoutx |
| 20:12.44 | dpkg | Install gpm, which gives you familiar mouse functionality from the console ; or upload a file to http://pastebin.ca/upload.php; or: apt-get install w3m ; w3m http://paste.debian.net/ ; hit enter on the Big Box, it will open /usr/bin/editor where you can insert the file, then save ; then hit enter on the submit button in w3m, or the "screen" utility also provides keyboard driven copy/paste, or ask me about <paste2pastebin pipe> |
| 20:12.49 | LuciusMare | thanks |
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| 20:13.18 | deltaflyer4747 | or just use that yourcommand >file 2>&1 |
| 20:13.21 | cusco | how do I replace double quotes with single quotes? |
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| 20:13.28 | cusco | I " for ' |
| 20:13.34 | deltaflyer4747 | sed |
| 20:13.38 | deltaflyer4747 | s/"/' |
| 20:13.41 | LuciusMare | woo |
| 20:13.51 | LuciusMare | themill: so,what do you need? |
| 20:14.01 | LuciusMare | or valdyn |
| 20:14.18 | cusco | deltaflyer4747: that won't work |
| 20:14.21 | simonrvn | incomplete matcher error |
| 20:14.27 | cusco | just triied it |
| 20:14.32 | deltaflyer4747 | hmm |
| 20:14.39 | deltaflyer4747 | s/\"/\' |
| 20:14.40 | deltaflyer4747 | ? |
| 20:14.48 | simonrvn | man sed dude |
| 20:15.02 | deltaflyer4747 | eg escape chars ? |
| 20:15.11 | deltaflyer4747 | dunno, i never had to use it |
| 20:15.35 | simonrvn | then don't tell people how to use it then |
| 20:15.36 | jelly-home | cusco: where exactly are you doing that, on a file? |
| 20:15.56 | greycat | deltaflyer4747: that's correct |
| 20:15.57 | deltaflyer4747 | simonrvn: atleast i am trying to help |
| 20:16.00 | LuciusMare | valdyn? |
| 20:16.20 | simonrvn | deltaflyer4747: that's not the issue. help with stuff you *do* know. |
| 20:16.25 | greycat | tr \" \' would also work |
| 20:16.34 | greycat | simonrvn: well, he got this one right |
| 20:16.46 | simonrvn | yeh, wrong tool though ;) |
| 20:17.09 | deltaflyer4747 | simonrvn: if you didn't catch my point, i just learned him (hopefully) that some chars needs to be escaped |
| 20:17.12 | jelly-home | cusco: you have to take care of the shell interpreting " and ' differently, hence ecasping them with \ |
| 20:17.14 | simonrvn | it's ok, the intetion was good - don't misunderstand me on that, i understand that. |
| 20:17.26 | simonrvn | intention* |
| 20:17.39 | cusco | nevermind I already changed it with gedit |
| 20:17.59 | cusco | jelly-home: I was trying to edit a bunch of sql insert strings |
| 20:18.06 | jelly-home | simonrvn: you did miss his not putting the final / in s/// :-P |
| 20:18.22 | deltaflyer4747 | i also have a problem and noone tried to help me, not only with a single suggestion... |
| 20:18.25 | simonrvn | that was exactly my point: simonrvn | incomplete matcher error |
| 20:18.38 | LuciusMare | heh, how to redirect both stdout and stderr into one file? |
| 20:18.50 | deltaflyer4747 | yourcommand >file 2>&1 |
| 20:18.51 | JyZyXEL | the bleeding edge of debian is so much fun! |
| 20:19.05 | JyZyXEL | every time you reboot you face this awesome puzzles |
| 20:19.06 | jelly-home | ... this sounds like a greycat night, lots of sh basics |
| 20:19.08 | cusco | breks so much often JyZyXEL |
| 20:19.13 | cusco | :) |
| 20:19.14 | JyZyXEL | ohh yess |
| 20:19.17 | JyZyXEL | its amazing |
| 20:19.52 | deltaflyer4747 | can anyone tell me how i can get dump from php taken from apt-get? I have dmesg full of segfaults |
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| 20:21.48 | greycat | what does "the dump from php" mean? |
| 20:22.29 | LuciusMare | valdyn: so i pasted it |
| 20:22.36 | jelly-home | a core dump presumably |
| 20:22.52 | deltaflyer4747 | greycat: there is "CoreDumpDirectory " for apache... i need something similar for php |
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| 20:23.17 | LuciusMare | anyone would help me,please? paste.debian.net/57125 |
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| 20:24.33 | greycat | so you installed testing packages on lenny? |
| 20:24.38 | deltaflyer4747 | LuciusMare: go to apt-get cache directory and manually install missing dependencies... |
| 20:24.54 | LuciusMare | greycat: basically yes, i changed the repos to squeeze and apt-dist upgraded |
| 20:25.23 | deltaflyer4747 | helpded for me... |
| 20:25.42 | LuciusMare | deltaflyer4747: the problem is, i need to upgrade udev, but to upgrade udev,i must upgrade kernel,but to upgrade kernel,i must fix the dependencies, which i have to fix with installing udev... |
| 20:25.51 | LuciusMare | deltaflyer4747: what did you exactly do? |
| 20:26.02 | deltaflyer4747 | i manually installed package by package |
| 20:26.11 | LuciusMare | heh |
| 20:26.14 | deltaflyer4747 | well... |
| 20:26.15 | simonrvn | /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 20:26.16 | deltaflyer4747 | try this |
| 20:26.18 | LuciusMare | this is not going to help me,i am afraid |
| 20:26.22 | deltaflyer4747 | install kernell |
| 20:26.24 | LuciusMare | because i cant install anything |
| 20:26.25 | LuciusMare | i cant |
| 20:26.27 | deltaflyer4747 | then install udev |
| 20:26.30 | LuciusMare | i cant. |
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| 20:26.41 | LuciusMare | deltaflyer4747: the problem is, i need to upgrade udev, but to upgrade udev,i must upgrade kernel,but to upgrade kernel,i must fix the dependencies, which i have to fix with installing udev... |
| 20:26.44 | simonrvn | stop saying i can't. |
| 20:26.52 | LuciusMare | i cant! |
| 20:26.56 | LuciusMare | you just keep asking |
| 20:27.02 | KDE4000 | Hey, I have a debian lenny box which i use as a server, and ive found thats its been doing reboots while i wasnt paying attention, /var/log/messages reveals nothing, what should I do? |
| 20:27.06 | greycat | Did you try "dpkg -i --force-depends mykernelpackage"? |
| 20:27.14 | simonrvn | LuciusMare: do you need udev? i doubt it. |
| 20:27.20 | deltaflyer4747 | dpkg -i --ignore-depends=<packagename> |
| 20:27.20 | dpkg | installs --ignore-depends=<packagename> into deltaflyer4747's head with a bone saw and a few screws |
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| 20:27.37 | LuciusMare | simonrvn: i do, because i cant install anything till i fix the deps |
| 20:27.45 | LuciusMare | ill try that |
| 20:27.45 | greycat | Why not? Use dpkg manually. |
| 20:27.47 | simonrvn | pff |
| 20:27.53 | deltaflyer4747 | can anyone tell me how i can get dump from php taken from apt-get? I have dmesg full of segfaults |
| 20:27.55 | greycat | If you are running something labeled TESTING you ought to know how to do that. |
| 20:28.00 | LuciusMare | heh |
| 20:28.15 | greycat | deltaflyer4747: it should be obvious by now that nobody knows. Try ##php. |
| 20:28.15 | simonrvn | deltaflyer4747: dump of what from php? |
| 20:28.16 | LuciusMare | i know how to use my system,but dependency deadlocking is my first case |
| 20:28.27 | deltaflyer4747 | simonrvn: coredump |
| 20:28.33 | simonrvn | use gdb |
| 20:28.44 | simonrvn | deltaflyer4747: oh *generate* a dump |
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| 20:29.04 | LuciusMare | simonrvn: i havent got it installed yet |
| 20:29.05 | deltaflyer4747 | simonrvn: for that i have to have php configured with --enable-debug which in this part is useless :( |
| 20:29.14 | simonrvn | you need to allow that happen first. then you can get a core dump, then pass that through gdb. |
| 20:29.21 | simonrvn | that to* |
| 20:29.42 | LuciusMare | simonrvn: i already pasted the error |
| 20:29.58 | simonrvn | missed that - not paying attention |
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| 20:30.04 | greycat | LuciusMare: you did not paste an error from "dpkg -i --force-depends KERNELPKGFILE" yet AFAIK |
| 20:30.47 | LuciusMare | has a nerdgasm |
| 20:30.49 | deltaflyer4747 | simonrvn: can you tell me pls how exactly, or point me to some usefull howto link? |
| 20:30.51 | LuciusMare | it seems it installed... |
| 20:31.03 | deltaflyer4747 | LuciusMare: kernel? |
| 20:31.06 | LuciusMare | yes |
| 20:31.09 | deltaflyer4747 | great. |
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| 20:31.13 | LuciusMare | gah. |
| 20:31.14 | deltaflyer4747 | now dpkg -i udev |
| 20:31.17 | LuciusMare | still the same error |
| 20:31.24 | simonrvn | deltaflyer4747: the ##php people can tell you that. maybe they have a slightly different procedure .... |
| 20:31.25 | themill | LuciusMare: if you've now got 2.6.30 installed, reboot into that kernel and then aptitude -f install. |
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| 20:31.38 | deltaflyer4747 | simonrvn: ok, will try that |
| 20:31.43 | LuciusMare | ah |
| 20:31.45 | LuciusMare | reboot |
| 20:31.46 | LuciusMare | thats the thing |
| 20:31.56 | simonrvn | duh |
| 20:31.57 | deltaflyer4747 | LuciusMare: just check grub men...u |
| 20:31.59 | simonrvn | damn |
| 20:32.10 | greycat | looks like lenny->squeeze is gonna be *so* fun.... |
| 20:32.15 | themill | which is precisely what that link on debian-devel did that we looked at 3 hours ago... |
| 20:32.49 | simonrvn | was going to point him/her to that when s/he was going on about i cant i cant wah |
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| 20:33.20 | themill | greycat: no different to etch->lenny where udev and kernel had to be upgraded in the same step |
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| 20:33.28 | LuciusMare | ok |
| 20:33.33 | LuciusMare | so lets give it a try |
| 20:33.54 | deltaflyer4747 | god... he made it |
| 20:34.35 | LuciusMare | YES. |
| 20:34.45 | LuciusMare | hears the chorus. |
| 20:35.28 | LuciusMare | and now,lets finish the dist-upgrade |
| 20:35.46 | deltaflyer4747 | LuciusMare: aptitude safe-upgrade you mean, right? |
| 20:35.49 | themill | LuciusMare: use aptitude.... |
| 20:35.59 | LuciusMare | e... |
| 20:36.07 | LuciusMare | well |
| 20:36.13 | LuciusMare | now its too late |
| 20:36.17 | deltaflyer4747 | oh lord... |
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| 20:37.14 | LuciusMare | its now too late |
| 20:37.16 | LuciusMare | we cant stop it |
| 20:37.30 | LuciusMare | hm,its at the grub already |
| 20:37.34 | deltaflyer4747 | well... unplug the power cord, that will definitivelly stop it ;) |
| 20:37.36 | LuciusMare | starts to feel happy |
| 20:37.43 | nsadmin | if it's downloading you can stop it |
| 20:37.49 | deltaflyer4747 | yep |
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| 20:37.56 | deltaflyer4747 | iol.cz is dsl |
| 20:37.58 | LuciusMare | not anymore |
| 20:38.01 | nsadmin | if it's actually unpacking/configuring packages, you'll screw things up |
| 20:38.11 | LuciusMare | i know |
| 20:38.15 | LuciusMare | thats why i said we cant stop it |
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| 20:38.31 | nsadmin | a |
| 20:38.39 | deltaflyer4747 | LuciusMare: got a screwdriver? |
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| 20:39.03 | LuciusMare | haha |
| 20:39.14 | LuciusMare | if brute force fails,use a biggger hammer |
| 20:39.26 | LuciusMare | wee |
| 20:39.45 | LuciusMare | i have a working system! |
| 20:39.49 | greycat | if you got this far, and apt-get -f install passed, you probably won't blow up too badly any more |
| 20:39.50 | nsadmin | the screwdriver is of course to pry the powercord out of the wall... |
| 20:39.56 | dv- | When I play videos and load web pages, the video tends to stall (?). this doesn't happen in ubuntu. what am I missing? do I need to compile a real-time kernel? |
| 20:40.02 | nsadmin | no need to be careful or anything... |
| 20:40.09 | greycat | I'd imagine apt-get -f install with your partial-upgrade did most or all of what safe-upgrade would've done |
| 20:40.18 | LuciusMare | ow |
| 20:41.15 | deltaflyer4747 | lets hope so |
| 20:41.59 | wildc4rd | evening all |
| 20:42.16 | LuciusMare | :( |
| 20:42.18 | LuciusMare | No candidate version found for kde |
| 20:42.27 | deltaflyer4747 | use gnome :) |
| 20:42.47 | themill | dpkg: tell LuciusMare about install kde4 |
| 20:43.05 | LuciusMare | hthanks |
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| 20:47.28 | LuciusMare | okay |
| 20:47.33 | LuciusMare | thank you,guys |
| 20:47.43 | LuciusMare | hugs everyone |
| 20:48.09 | LuciusMare | the only thing kinda left, is... |
| 20:48.19 | deltaflyer4747 | its dead? |
| 20:48.26 | LuciusMare | when kdm loads, and i try to log in, it blinks and throws me back to login screen |
| 20:48.44 | greycat | !configure x |
| 20:48.45 | dpkg | From Lenny onwards, xorg mostly configures itself. Resolution is set by your monitor/graphics card (unless they're broken) or by your desktop environment or <xrandr>. From Squeeze, input hotplugging saves duplicating settings and restarting X after changes. The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is usually no longer needed and is often blank. Manual configuration is still possible, see <xorg config lenny> <xorg config squeeze>. |
| 20:48.57 | greycat | !xorg config squeeze |
| 20:48.59 | dpkg | From squeeze onwards, you can often use an <empty xorg.conf>. Configure your keyboard layout for both X and console in /etc/default/console-setup or "dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" (not xorg.conf). If you have further things you wish to configure, use "X -configure" ("X -configure :1" if server is already active) to produce a xorg.conf template. Ask me about <xorg hal>. http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/InputHotplugGuide |
| 20:49.07 | LuciusMare | huh? |
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| 20:49.21 | greycat | Maybe I'm wrong about what's broken. |
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| 20:49.32 | LuciusMare | greycat: do you think that is caused by bad x configuration? |
| 20:49.36 | greycat | *shrug* |
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| 20:49.55 | greycat | look for a log file somewher.e |
| 20:49.57 | sepult | gaaaaaah i go mad at this sound |
| 20:50.01 | LuciusMare | ? |
| 20:50.08 | sepult | rpm 5600 ?? |
| 20:50.14 | sepult | rpm 7200 ?? |
| 20:50.16 | sepult | grrr |
| 20:50.25 | sepult | disk is tooo LOUOUUUUD |
| 20:50.37 | LuciusMare | haha |
| 20:50.37 | tensorpudding | probably caused by vibrations in the case |
| 20:50.42 | sepult | no |
| 20:50.47 | sepult | definately not |
| 20:50.58 | greycat | "definitely". |
| 20:51.06 | sepult | thanks greycat |
| 20:51.43 | tensorpudding | laptop hard drives are always whiny eh |
| 20:51.43 | greycat | It's the same root word as "definition" and "definitive". |
| 20:51.43 | LuciusMare | whiny |
| 20:51.43 | LuciusMare | writes down the word |
| 20:51.48 | sepult | i played with hdparm -B 127 /dev/hda and hdparm -M 128 /dev/hda |
| 20:51.49 | sepult | no go |
| 20:51.53 | LuciusMare | greycat: xorg or kdm logs? |
| 20:52.06 | sepult | even no -B 1 -M 1 |
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| 20:52.40 | sepult | i think it's the sata disk which keeps on spinning |
| 20:52.48 | sepult | so sdparm ? |
| 20:52.54 | sepult | but what options = |
| 20:52.57 | sepult | ? |
| 20:53.09 | sepult | sdparm --get MRR /dev/sda ? |
| 20:53.16 | tensorpudding | the manfile might know |
| 20:53.20 | sepult | no option for that |
| 20:53.35 | sepult | MRR is not gettable for /dev/sda |
| 20:54.32 | dv- | Debian seems kinda sluggish in regard to multitasking. Anything I can do to improve it? |
| 20:54.59 | tensorpudding | that's completely dependent on what you are runnin |
| 20:55.02 | LuciusMare | WTF |
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| 20:55.08 | LuciusMare | WHAT? |
| 20:55.15 | LuciusMare | i just mounted my home partitin |
| 20:55.19 | LuciusMare | my home is blank |
| 20:55.26 | LuciusMare | while others home is perfect |
| 20:55.30 | tensorpudding | LuciusMare: are you sure you mounted it right? |
| 20:55.35 | LuciusMare | no |
| 20:55.38 | LuciusMare | wait. |
| 20:55.50 | LuciusMare | but why should only mine be bad? |
| 20:56.08 | LuciusMare | ah. |
| 20:56.13 | LuciusMare | agh |
| 20:56.20 | LuciusMare | curses his paranoia |
| 20:56.30 | LuciusMare | anybody know how to access encrypted files? |
| 20:56.37 | deltaflyer4747 | :D |
| 20:56.40 | deltaflyer4747 | decrypt them |
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| 20:57.02 | LuciusMare | er |
| 20:57.26 | LuciusMare | has a wide smile |
| 20:57.32 | LuciusMare | i forgot the password... |
| 20:57.41 | LuciusMare | wait,no |
| 20:57.41 | tensorpudding | hmm |
| 20:57.45 | LuciusMare | pooh |
| 20:57.49 | LuciusMare | or phew |
| 20:57.54 | LuciusMare | not sure what word |
| 20:58.16 | ycas | scratches his head... |
| 20:58.25 | LuciusMare | like sigh |
| 20:58.28 | LuciusMare | but more happy |
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| 20:58.38 | LuciusMare | like XXX, that was close |
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| 20:59.45 | LuciusMare | heh |
| 21:00.12 | LuciusMare | anyway, guys, i wish you happy life and eternal peace, when you spoon-feeded me to the working system |
| 21:00.28 | LuciusMare | (i would have killed myself a hour ago) |
| 21:00.34 | LuciusMare | so,thanks and bye |
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| 21:20.29 | helo | has anyone ever heard of rsyslogd stopping without explanation? |
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| 21:25.17 | dafresh | hi all, i am trying ipv6, and dont anderstand why when net.ipv6.conf.all = 1, my box lost the default ipv6 route provided by my ISP ... |
| 21:25.28 | dafresh | any idea ? |
| 21:26.14 | dafresh | i need to set this because radvd wont start if ipv6 forwarding isnt set to all |
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| 21:32.50 | thehurley | hello, is it possible to force users to use sudo (be a member of group sudo) when attempting to use su? |
| 21:33.16 | valdyn | thehurley: that does not make sense |
| 21:33.30 | thehurley | ok |
| 21:33.35 | valdyn | thehurley: su needs the password of the user |
| 21:34.09 | valdyn | thehurley: if someone has the password he can login as that user, he doesnt need su except for convenience |
| 21:34.10 | pistache | valdyn: you meant sudo ? |
| 21:34.15 | greycat | if you want to prevent them from using su to become root, change the root password |
| 21:34.17 | thehurley | what is they issue "su -l" to become root |
| 21:34.19 | valdyn | pistache: maybe thehurley did |
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| 21:34.42 | valdyn | thehurley: "su" asks for root password to change to root |
| 21:34.55 | thehurley | yup |
| 21:35.03 | thehurley | maybe a little backgroud might help |
| 21:35.10 | greycat | change the root PW, give them sudoer access, and voila |
| 21:35.15 | valdyn | thehurley: maybe you understanding "su" would help |
| 21:35.44 | thehurley | if i want to block certain users from becoming root by using su, by adding them to group sudo |
| 21:36.04 | valdyn | thehurley: you cannot block users who know the root password from becoming root |
| 21:36.06 | thehurley | *by ading only the user i want to use su to group sudo |
| 21:36.09 | thehurley | but |
| 21:36.12 | greycat | adding them to a group does not TAKE AWAY their privileges with an unrelated program |
| 21:36.17 | thehurley | i still need them to know the root password |
| 21:36.28 | greycat | thehurley: then you do not understand sudo. |
| 21:36.29 | valdyn | thehurley: thats silly |
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| 21:37.07 | valdyn | thehurley: "su" is a convenience tool, not a security device |
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| 21:38.56 | thehurley | http://www.wlug.org.nz/SudoHowto |
| 21:39.05 | thehurley | here they talk about restricting access to su |
| 21:39.14 | valdyn | thehurley: thats probably a typo |
| 21:39.22 | greycat | fine, some versions of su permit restrictions. I don't recall whether Debian Lenny is one such. |
| 21:39.25 | valdyn | thehurley: or an idiot who wrote that howto, im not going to read it |
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| 21:40.33 | lord_rob | Hi ! Is there a command line program that allows me to convert flac to wav files ? |
| 21:40.47 | greycat | I think it's called "flac" |
| 21:41.04 | valdyn | thehurley: restricting access to "su" would not restrict access to the root account |
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| 21:41.46 | greycat | thehurley: which part of that URL talks about su? |
| 21:42.54 | greycat | Or are you somehow under the deranged impression that su and sudo are the same program? |
| 21:42.56 | thehurley | nothing in the url, but within the page te author writes: "You might wish to allow users the ability to run most commands, but to restrict a few. Eg, let's say you don't want your users to be able to run the 'su' command, or to execute a shell, as the root user.".... |
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| 21:43.29 | greycat | OK, so what's the question? |
| 21:43.33 | Rahim | Can I install Debian from a debian-kde4 live cd? |
| 21:43.58 | Rahim | i hav downloaded it and running from it, but cant find any option to doa hard disk install |
| 21:44.09 | thehurley | steady on greycat |
| 21:44.18 | thehurley | asking a question doesn't make anyone deranged |
| 21:44.48 | valdyn | thehurley: disallowing su does not accomplish anything |
| 21:44.58 | Rahim | it doesnt show any "intstall" option, and i am on a limited bandwodth |
| 21:45.03 | greycat | The howto says how to disable the ability to run "sudo su" |
| 21:45.10 | lord_rob | hehe thanks greycat :) |
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| 21:45.25 | greycat | So if his question was "how do I stop users from running 'sudo su' to get a shell as root"? Then that answers it. |
| 21:45.56 | thehurley | i'm under the impression that i can allow particular users who are member of group sudo to execute certain commands with their own password (or the root password) |
| 21:46.09 | thehurley | when they prepend it with sudo |
| 21:46.23 | greycat | So, what's the question? |
| 21:47.02 | GNUtoo | hi, someone told me that an user named ranix wanted to run debian on his nexus one |
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| 21:47.26 | rgr | thehurley: try not to take the bait. Some people giving "help" think it gives them a right to be rude abrasive idiots. |
| 21:47.26 | xreal | How can I find the path variable, which links to an app in a specific directory? |
| 21:47.29 | GNUtoo | how can I contact him via irc |
| 21:47.30 | GNUtoo | ? |
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| 21:47.47 | GNUtoo | at what hour he is usually connected? |
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| 21:48.10 | valdyn | thehurley: do you understand that restricting /bin/su does not accomplish anything? |
| 21:48.20 | greycat | GNUtoo: you could try memoserv |
| 21:48.38 | thehurley | not sure i do |
| 21:48.42 | GNUtoo | ok thanks a lot |
| 21:49.07 | valdyn | thehurley: ok: "cp /bin/su ~/; cd ~/; sudo ./su" |
| 21:49.19 | thehurley | if the user can only ssh in as their normal user account, if they don't have access to su, they wont be able to elivate to root |
| 21:49.25 | thehurley | no? |
| 21:49.29 | greycat | what? |
| 21:49.33 | valdyn | thehurley: they can copy su as i just showed you |
| 21:49.39 | thehurley | right |
| 21:49.44 | greycat | thehurley: what are you trying to do? |
| 21:49.45 | valdyn | thehurley: or they can write su in hexcode or whatever |
| 21:49.49 | thehurley | k |
| 21:50.04 | greycat | I still don't understand the question. |
| 21:50.11 | valdyn | thehurley: allowing a limited set of programs makes sense, disallowing a limited set makes no sense |
| 21:50.37 | thehurley | k, thanks |
| 21:50.43 | greycat | sudo ELEVATES PRIVILEGES, just like su does. |
| 21:50.50 | rgr | actually disallowing a small set makes perfect sense. What might not make sense is that its hard to do. |
| 21:50.55 | greycat | I'm trying to understand what you don't understand. |
| 21:51.31 | valdyn | rgr: like that is practical |
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| 21:51.53 | rgr | yes. Its not as you say because of the implemtation. |
| 21:52.16 | rgr | but the desire or "wish" to disallow a small set makes perfect sense. |
| 21:52.54 | valdyn | rgr: alright, im talking about what you can and should do with sudo, not what people might want to do |
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| 21:53.42 | abrotman | yeah .. ranix isn't registered, he quit, won't be able to get back in |
| 21:53.58 | rgr | yes. so "not really possible" makes more sense than "that makes no sense" in this context. IMO of course;) |
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| 22:42.53 | pinkisntwell | does anyone have any tips for getting skype to work properly? i can never get the ringing to work, all i get is the dialog window |
| 22:43.58 | pinkisntwell | also the sound starts crackling a bit after a few minutes |
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| 22:53.35 | octocpp | why is it that when i set I[tables to DROP for INPUT, OUTPUT, and FORWARD, i can not open, kate, kwrite, konqueror, dolphin or anything of that nature? do thses programs rely on a network connection? what does IPtables have to do with my filesystem ? |
| 22:56.16 | nkuttler | octocpp: i would guess kde wants access to localhost at least |
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| 22:58.24 | octocpp | hmm, that would be the thing in common between them |
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| 23:05.24 | Killaklown | sup guys |
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| 23:13.35 | ethanol | hey, so, where can I get apitude *with* super cow powers? |
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| 23:13.48 | simonrvn | there isn't any |
| 23:14.04 | simonrvn | aptitude moo |
| 23:14.07 | simonrvn | There are no Easter Eggs in this program. |
| 23:14.11 | ethanol | :( |
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| 23:18.27 | phogg | simonrvn: lies. aptitude -vvvvvv moo |
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| 23:18.52 | simonrvn | haha nice |
| 23:19.07 | phogg | backing off on the -v's makes it make more sense, of course |
| 23:19.16 | simonrvn | though looks like a mountain or something more than a cow |
| 23:19.43 | simonrvn | must be recent addition |
| 23:19.48 | phogg | I always thought a cat on a carpet |
| 23:19.56 | phogg | simonrvn: been there at least 3 years now |
| 23:19.59 | simonrvn | aptitude -vvvvvvvvvv moo |
| 23:20.01 | simonrvn | What is it? It's an elephant being eaten by a snake, of course. |
| 23:20.20 | simonrvn | i never bothered ... *hangs head in shame* |
| 23:21.06 | phogg | I'm pretty sure I only noticed because I was in the source looking to add super cow powers to mine |
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| 23:21.51 | simonrvn | the 'answer' is at 6 v |
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| 23:32.04 | ethanol | meh, I tried upgrading from lenny to testing but install of udev fails cause my kernel has an option disabled. it says I need to install new kernel first. but.. can aptitude do that? :x |
| 23:33.13 | igno | ethanol: yes, just aptitude install linux-image-xxx that you want |
| 23:33.43 | ethanol | aha |
| 23:34.57 | igno | ethanol: had the same problem yesterday :) |
| 23:35.22 | ethanol | thanks :) |
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| 23:42.39 | adb | dpkg, seen judd |
| 23:42.39 | dpkg | judd <n=stew@216.156.130.5> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 2d 7h 46m 45s ago, saying: 'hid3: [9004:7895] is 'AHA-2940U/UW / AHA-39xx / AIC-7895' from 'Adaptec' with kernel module 'aic7xxx' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=9004:7895'. |
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| 23:42.50 | themill | dpkg: tell adb about judd |
| 23:43.16 | adb | hm , 2d 7h 46m 45s ago .. |
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| 23:52.38 | cirwin | My networking seems to ignore gai.conf after being resumed from suspend under debian testing, is this a known problem? |
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| 23:54.07 | pinkisntwell | can someone help me fix my fonts? they look awful, my eyes hurt |
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| 23:54.18 | pinkisntwell | i've been trying to fix that and i just can't do it |
| 23:54.50 | TiMiDo | pinkisntwell, if you want do this mkdir .fonts and move them to the .fonts directory and changed fonts |
| 23:55.20 | pinkisntwell | TiMiDo: what do you mean? so i can find which fonts look bad? |
| 23:55.36 | TiMiDo | pinkisntwell, are you using gnome? |
| 23:55.40 | pinkisntwell | they look ok in the terminal, but in iceweasel they look depressing |
| 23:55.52 | cirwin | Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces ... (warning). -- how do I reboot networking then? |
| 23:55.52 | cirwin | pinkisntwell: are they ugly fonts, or rendered badly? |
| 23:56.03 | pinkisntwell | TiMiDo: i started with kde but right now i'm using awesome window manager, it's really awesome |
| 23:56.19 | pinkisntwell | cirwin: how can i tell? all i know is they look bad |
| 23:56.35 | kingsley | pinkisntwell: Fonts are a common source of confusion, so I would suggest that you not feel too bad, and if you haven't done so already, consider searching Google's indices for something like... debian fonts tutorial |
| 23:57.00 | pinkisntwell | kingsley: i know... why can't this be fixed out of the box? |
| 23:57.06 | cirwin | if it's in firefox, it's likely badly rendering, have you changed your DPI settings, I don't know whether that's awm's responsibility or what |
| 23:57.32 | cirwin | i.e. if they worked fine under gnome, yes it is :) |
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| 23:58.26 | kingsley | Does anyone here happen to know how to tell how much RAM can be used by kernel 2.6.25-2-686? |
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| 23:59.11 | cirwin | kingsley: google is good for "kernel ram usage" |
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