| 00:04.36 | themill | Is there a way to configure the glibc name service (e.g. in /etc/nsswitch.conf) to never return AAAA records? |
| 00:05.21 | simonrvn | i've never seen anything for that. maybe it does now, but i doubt it. |
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| 00:06.42 | aixenv | hey guys i have a long command im trying to see via ps, i've tried a myriad of options but they all truncate, i remembe there's some way to set your line length but dont remember how |
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| 00:07.02 | Alysum | hello - does anyone know why on ec2 my resolv.conf gets overwritten ? |
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| 00:07.42 | chomwitt | will debian squeze have kde as default? |
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| 00:09.40 | unop | aixenv, ps -o command |
| 00:10.27 | simonrvn | chomwitt: the kde cd does |
| 00:10.34 | streuner | chomwitt: i doubt that, but everything is possible |
| 00:11.39 | streuner | Alysum, usually DHCP-clients do that... |
| 00:12.11 | Sergio` | Alysum: you could use chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf to prevent that. |
| 00:12.24 | themill | eww |
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| 00:12.54 | themill | Alysum: configure either dhcp client, dhcp server or the resolvconf package correctly. /msg dpkg override dns |
| 00:13.17 | Alysum | ok |
| 00:13.21 | Alysum | ta |
| 00:14.51 | Alysum | you're suggesting dpkg-reconfigure ? |
| 00:15.13 | Alysum | but with which package? I cannot see any resolvconf package |
| 00:15.49 | streuner | dpkg override dn |
| 00:15.50 | dpkg | streuner: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 00:15.51 | Alysum | hmm it snot installed |
| 00:15.52 | streuner | dpkg override dns |
| 00:15.53 | dpkg | To instruct dhclient to use your specified nameserver rather than the one given to you by your DHCP server, echo "supersede domain-name-servers a.b.c.d, e.f.g.h;" >> /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf, or see man 5 dhclient.conf for more information. Instead of supersede, you can also use "prepend" or "append" to add nameservers. |
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| 00:17.04 | aixenv | unop: yea that didnt work, i ended up using lsof -p $pid, np tho thanks |
| 00:17.33 | Alysum | ok wil do the supersede |
| 00:18.17 | unop | aixenv, ps might be truncating long lines based on your terminal's size -- if I pipe to less, I see the entire command |
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| 00:20.03 | ponyofdeath | hi, where do i put custom mib's for snmp to use in linux? |
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| 00:22.18 | Tramp | aixenv: -ww |
| 00:22.50 | TiMiDo | !info a |
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| 00:31.53 | tuv | how do i get snmpwalk to output string ids instead of the numerical decimal ids? |
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| 00:40.18 | spldart | what package is it that writes up the /etc/resolv.conf on boot? I wanna kill it so I can leave my preferred nameserver manually entered. |
| 00:40.47 | spldart | is it networkmanager? |
| 00:41.27 | simonrvn | tuv: snmpwalk --help ... |
| 00:42.30 | Tramp | spldart: it's your dhcp client |
| 00:42.38 | Tramp | !tell spldart -about override dns |
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| 00:49.17 | tuv | simonrvn: it works on stable without any special parameters. i set up MIBDIRS in /etc/default/snmpd to reflect the value in stable, but it won't work on testing |
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| 00:57.51 | synx | Hey I can't update. I get the error " GPG error: http://mirror.peer1.net unstable Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 9AA38DCD55BE302B Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (5.0/lenny) <ftpmaster@debian.org>" |
| 00:58.25 | cheako | Hello, can one do mirroring with LVM? |
| 00:58.59 | synx | All the packages that would upgrade are marked as untrusted and can't be verified :( |
| 00:59.00 | synx | I have 55BE302B in apt-key list |
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| 01:11.05 | synx | I got the lenny key here: https://ftp-master.debian.org/keys.html |
| 01:11.06 | synx | http://en.newinstance.it/2009/06/22/the-following-signatures-were-invalid-badsig-40976eaf437d05b5-ubuntu-archive-automatic-signing-key/ didn't work |
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| 01:14.40 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 01:17.23 | tuv | simonrvn: apparently libsnmp-base is larger in stable and includes more mibs than in testing |
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| 01:53.05 | xaashi | hi i wondered if some one could help me. I'd like to have my script to create a set of virtual interfaces before /etc/init.d/networking is run. could some one please point me in the right direction, thanks |
| 01:54.19 | dutchfish | xaashi, you mean tap tun devices? |
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| 01:55.19 | xaashi | dutchfish: no, i;d like to create a monitor and ad-hoc vap |
| 01:56.02 | xaashi | dutchfish: and then have the adhoc interface brought by the time the system is ready for login |
| 01:56.05 | dutchfish | xaashi, not sure what you want, a monitor like a device in a bridged setup? |
| 01:57.01 | xaashi | dutchfish: kinda, i want to connect the to local network with the ad-hoc vap, and monitor the radio env. with the other vap |
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| 01:57.40 | xaashi | so far, my hacky scripts work, but i'd like it all done automatically so that i dont have to login and start them |
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| 01:59.52 | xaashi | dutchfish: i'd basically like this script http://pastebin.com/m677e6e3d run before /etc/init.d/networking is run |
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| 02:00.54 | dutchfish | xaashi, http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=7947 |
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| 02:01.18 | dutchfish | xaashi, the only way i can think of is through the systemwide messagebus |
| 02:01.34 | roe | what do people use, if anything, to keep computer inventory of your networks |
| 02:01.37 | dutchfish | xaashi, but there might be other ways |
| 02:02.09 | Section58 | roe, a pen and paper :P |
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| 02:02.18 | xaashi | dutchfish: thanks, how would you do the systemwide message bus method? |
| 02:02.19 | Section58 | with a lot of postits |
| 02:03.07 | Section58 | roe, maybe a nice network diagram with comments made with viso ? |
| 02:03.14 | dutchfish | xaashi, on debian delve into /etc/dbus-1/session.d/system.conf |
| 02:03.30 | roe | Section58, that doesn't scale well |
| 02:03.36 | dutchfish | xaashi, i am by no means an expert on this |
| 02:03.40 | Section58 | its nice when you use scripts |
| 02:03.42 | roe | nor does it allow for detailed information about computers |
| 02:03.44 | Section58 | it will make itself |
| 02:04.04 | Section58 | roe, some sort of website with deep links ? |
| 02:04.36 | Section58 | the content could even be made from network crawls |
| 02:04.40 | xaashi | dutchfish: i was hoping to find a quick rc.X hack method, will keep looking, thanks |
| 02:04.46 | roe | Section58, it seems like the 'best' one out there open-audit, which looks like a windows fanboy program |
| 02:04.59 | dutchfish | xaashi, good luck |
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| 02:06.44 | Section58 | that looks really nice roe |
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| 02:06.57 | Section58 | its also for linux |
| 02:07.01 | Section58 | so it tells me |
| 02:07.02 | roe | except when you have a linux and os X environment (clients) |
| 02:08.20 | Section58 | also Snare |
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| 02:08.33 | Section58 | i think its server based |
| 02:08.36 | Section58 | with probes |
| 02:09.03 | Section58 | as shows some sort of discovery reference |
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| 02:11.44 | WhiteCrow1 | hi all |
| 02:12.28 | Section58 | hi |
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| 02:20.16 | reklipz | Is it possible to install unstable via D-I? |
| 02:20.50 | liable | yes, in expert mode |
| 02:21.13 | reklipz | liable, any advice before I begin? |
| 02:21.23 | liable | yes. dont do it :P |
| 02:21.46 | reklipz | :/ |
| 02:22.12 | reklipz | You really want me to stick with stable+backports? |
| 02:22.42 | liable | i dont particularly care. but just realise that when your sid box, you won't get much sympathy here. |
| 02:22.53 | liable | sid box breaks* |
| 02:23.33 | reklipz | okies |
| 02:24.19 | reklipz | I'll give testing a whirl |
| 02:24.23 | adb | reklipz, unstable means self support ( by user ) |
| 02:25.31 | reklipz | adb: I'm aware. I figure, if I want to learn more about the system, I ought to just dive right in. I've been using stable since woody, never really ventured out of the safe zone. |
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| 02:51.50 | xaashi | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:51.56 | xaashi | thanks |
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| 02:55.31 | neurodamage | with debian where's the DISTCC_DIR? |
| 02:55.46 | neurodamage | I'm trying to determine where to point the distccmon-text app so that I can monitor compiles? |
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| 03:04.40 | abrotman | xaashi: pre-up |
| 03:05.41 | liable | in interfaces file he means |
| 03:06.06 | abrotman | where else would it be? :) |
| 03:06.07 | xaashi | abortman, thanks, |
| 03:06.48 | xaashi | not in the interfaces file, i found the rigth priority val :) |
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| 03:07.48 | abrotman | it's in the interfaces file |
| 03:08.59 | xaashi | abortman: i wanted this script run before the contents of /etc/network/interfaces where run |
| 03:09.15 | abrotman | i'm aware of that |
| 03:09.39 | liable | hehe |
| 03:09.42 | xaashi | sorry, creating a deamon to launch it then adding with update-rc with a very low priority seems to have done the trick |
| 03:10.31 | xaashi | abrotman: k, i'm being ishtupid i see what you mean. thanks |
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| 03:11.38 | Eric02 | Hello, i am having issue with ethernet |
| 03:11.39 | Eric02 | NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out |
| 03:11.44 | Eric02 | eth0: Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: RX/TX |
| 03:11.50 | Eric02 | eth0: 10/100 speed: disabling TSO |
| 03:11.53 | HazardX | what kind of ethernet adapter? |
| 03:11.58 | Eric02 | NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out |
| 03:12.02 | HazardX | wouldn't be something that uses the e1000 driver would it? |
| 03:12.04 | Eric02 | any command to find out please ? |
| 03:12.08 | Eric02 | yes |
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| 03:12.14 | Eric02 | it's intel e1000 |
| 03:12.14 | liable | Eric02: are you the guy that was writing a script yesterday? |
| 03:12.23 | Eric02 | script ? |
| 03:12.29 | Eric02 | nope |
| 03:12.32 | liable | ok |
| 03:12.34 | HazardX | Eric02, just a sec, lemme find some kernel-options I've found fix those netdev problems |
| 03:12.50 | Eric02 | this issue is killing my site. |
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| 03:13.16 | HazardX | Eric02, ok to PM? |
| 03:13.21 | Eric02 | please |
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| 03:18.59 | HazardX | what's the command (if any) to make the kernel sense new kernel option files in /etc/modprobe.d? |
| 03:19.45 | liable | reload the module? not sure if the file would be reread though |
| 03:20.03 | liable | you could just reload the module with the options you put in the file though |
| 03:20.06 | HazardX | I mean be aware of the settings in /etc/modprobe.conf (I think) |
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| 03:22.17 | abrotman | HazardX: unload/reload the module |
| 03:23.59 | synx | I can't apt-get update or upgrade. I get the error "The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 9AA38DCD55BE302B Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (5.0/lenny) <ftpmaster@debian.org>" |
| 03:24.01 | synx | I have 55BE302B in apt-key list |
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| 03:24.13 | synx | I tried clearing out /var/lib/apt/lists. Lost 230MB of downloads. :( But it didn't help... |
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| 03:24.39 | synx | guh... nothing I do seems to fix this apt-key thing. Plus apt-key update magically finds some expired keys. |
| 03:24.43 | synx | I even tried reinstalling debian-archive-keyring without signing xp |
| 03:24.49 | synx | I can't install anything or update. It all says the signature is invalid. Do I need to change mirrors? |
| 03:25.14 | abrotman | wtf |
| 03:25.26 | abrotman | synx: put your sources.list in a pastebin |
| 03:25.41 | synx | sure abrotman |
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| 03:27.28 | synx | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/m20aac227 |
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| 03:28.09 | abrotman | !apt-key 55BE302B |
| 03:28.09 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys 55BE302B ; gpg --export 55BE302B | sudo apt-key add - |
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| 03:29.04 | synx | I have done that several times, but will try again... |
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| 03:29.46 | synx | nope, still can't update. |
| 03:29.47 | abrotman | synx: and then run `apt-get update;aptitude update" ? |
| 03:30.06 | synx | apt-get update fails. |
| 03:30.07 | synx | "GPG error: http://mirror.peer1.net unstable Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 9AA38DCD55BE302B Debian" |
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| 03:30.31 | abrotman | try another mirror |
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| 03:30.36 | synx | aptitude update has the same error. |
| 03:30.42 | synx | Will do... |
| 03:32.24 | Eric02 | HazardX da best. +1 vote from me :) |
| 03:32.42 | HazardX | Yes, Yes I am undeniably awsome. =) |
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| 03:43.28 | TiMiDo | hey anyone in here knows the JRE BUG Number ? |
| 03:43.31 | TiMiDo | so i can see the bug? |
| 03:43.53 | abrotman | again ? |
| 03:44.00 | TiMiDo | abrotman, yeah |
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| 03:44.06 | TiMiDo | i lost the link |
| 03:44.12 | abrotman | <abrotman> TIMiDo: so, http://bugs.debian.org/560056 |
| 03:44.13 | brokensys | abrotman: greetings, 'sup? |
| 03:44.26 | TiMiDo | thank you |
| 03:44.52 | abrotman | brokensys: the average wind speed in wichita ? |
| 03:44.53 | TiMiDo | abrotman, was that one it? |
| 03:44.58 | abrotman | yes |
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| 03:45.04 | brokensys | abrotman: that'll do 8-) |
| 03:45.22 | brokensys | ditched Xfce 4.6, for KDE 4.4 |
| 03:45.26 | TiMiDo | it does not say the solution |
| 03:45.32 | TiMiDo | i saw a link with a solution on it |
| 03:45.53 | synx | abrotman: Yes, using a different mirror... worked. o.O Do you think peer1.net has been compromised somehow? |
| 03:46.18 | abrotman | synx: soetimes mirrors have a bad sync |
| 03:46.21 | abrotman | TiMiDo: it doe shave a fix |
| 03:46.33 | brokensys | haha |
| 03:46.38 | xaashi | brokensys: try fluxbox, old minimal, does nothing and is simply responsive and gorgeous |
| 03:46.43 | abrotman | it actually has two of them |
| 03:47.08 | abrotman | does nothing .. what a feature .. |
| 03:47.16 | liable | heh |
| 03:47.18 | Tramp | synx: http://mirror.peer1.net/debian/dists/unstable/Release verifies fine agains Release.gpg - so it's unlikely. No idea, what your problem was |
| 03:47.49 | brokensys | xaashi: thanks ... for nothing haha |
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| 03:48.10 | xaashi | abrotman: given the feature bloat of kde and the like, nothing these days seems to be a positive |
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| 03:49.06 | dagobart | is there a way to make fsck wait for a slow disk? |
| 03:49.48 | dagobart | I'm googling all around on this, but all I learn is that you've got to wait for fsck. |
| 03:50.01 | dagobart | but not how to _make_ it wait |
| 03:50.31 | liable | huh? |
| 03:51.17 | synx | abrotman: temporary problem, I guess? |
| 03:51.21 | synx | thanks Tramp, no idea either. |
| 03:51.21 | synx | I don't really care about KDE versus GNOME but I wish they'd just have one. It sucks having two completely unrelated and incompatible GUI toolkits... |
| 03:51.24 | abrotman | synx: hopefully |
| 03:51.42 | dagobart | liable: was that a reply to me? |
| 03:51.50 | abrotman | dagobart: your quesiton doesn't make sense |
| 03:52.12 | dagobart | abrotman: huh? why? |
| 03:52.28 | abrotman | you want the disk to run slow when it tries to fsck ? |
| 03:52.30 | liable | dagobart: yes. what you said didn't really make sense to me |
| 03:53.46 | dagobart | abrotman: It's actually a SD card. Apparently, it shows up to the system only moments after fsck tried to do its job on it. Effect is that fsck ask for maintenance at boot time, every time. |
| 03:54.08 | abrotman | liable: how about if sprinkles a 'baa' or two in there ? |
| 03:54.10 | dagobart | I'd like fsck to wait for the card, to get a clean boot |
| 03:54.23 | Eric02 | my server have 12gb ram and 8 cores. |
| 03:54.28 | abrotman | boohoo ? |
| 03:54.29 | Eric02 | unfortunately i installed debian 32bit :( |
| 03:54.39 | Eric02 | it's reading only 4gb ram. |
| 03:54.42 | liable | beats abrotman with a lambs tail |
| 03:54.42 | abrotman | dagobart: it shouldn't do that if the device is clean |
| 03:54.52 | abrotman | Eric02: what is the current 'uname -a' ? |
| 03:54.57 | Eric02 | is there any possiblity to read whole 12gb ram without re-installing OS ? |
| 03:55.09 | Eric02 | Linux mail20 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Nov 4 20:45:37 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 03:55.23 | abrotman | Eric02: aptitude install linux-image-686-bigmem .. reboot |
| 03:55.24 | liable | Eric02: get the bigmem kernel |
| 03:55.44 | dagobart | abrotman: I guess, the disk is not available -- not visible -- to fsck, clean or not |
| 03:55.51 | Eric02 | bigmem kernel ? |
| 03:56.28 | abrotman | Eric02: try it ... |
| 03:56.34 | Eric02 | apt-get install bigmem ? |
| 03:56.41 | abrotman | no |
| 03:56.44 | abrotman | i gave you the command already |
| 03:56.44 | liable | *groan* |
| 03:56.48 | Eric02 | not sure what bigmem is |
| 03:56.51 | abrotman | i gave you the command already |
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| 03:57.06 | liable | you got it wrong though :) |
| 03:57.08 | Eric02 | aptitude install linux-image-686-bigmem |
| 03:57.11 | abrotman | no i didn't |
| 03:57.14 | Eric02 | then init 6 ? |
| 03:57.17 | abrotman | fine, yes |
| 03:57.30 | liable | linux-image-2.6-686-bidmem |
| 03:57.36 | abrotman | no, i got it right |
| 03:57.48 | abrotman | dpkg: info linux-image-686-bigmem lenny |
| 03:58.06 | Eric02 | this is my very important server :) |
| 03:58.09 | liable | eh, when did they change that.. |
| 03:58.11 | Eric02 | let me know which one is exact please. |
| 03:58.12 | Eric02 | :) |
| 03:58.25 | abrotman | liable: they didn't .. linux-image-686-bigmem depends on linux-image-2.6-686-bigmem |
| 03:58.30 | dpkg | linux-image-686-bigmem: (Linux image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4), section admin, is optional. Version: 2.6.26+17+lenny1 (lenny), Packaged size: 2 kB, Installed size: 32 kB |
| 03:58.34 | abrotman | Eric02: the one i gave you is correct |
| 03:58.42 | Eric02 | aptitude install linux-image-686-bigmem |
| 03:58.46 | Eric02 | is it correct / |
| 03:58.46 | abrotman | yes |
| 03:58.46 | liable | Eric02: maybe you should learn how to use apt to search for stuff on your very important server :P |
| 03:58.48 | Eric02 | then init 6 |
| 03:59.17 | Eric02 | well... i know about apt but i am not good with kernel ... |
| 03:59.22 | liable | abrotman: well, all the other meta packages used to have 2.6 in the name |
| 03:59.29 | abrotman | they still do |
| 04:00.08 | liable | yay for consistency |
| 04:01.13 | abrotman | liable: you can still use linux-image-2.6-foo .. or leave out the -2.6- .. up to you .. |
| 04:01.20 | abrotman | currently, then end result is the same |
| 04:02.16 | abrotman | s/then/the/ |
| 04:03.16 | Eric02 | Current status: 29 updates [-3]. |
| 04:03.20 | Eric02 | should i restart it now ? |
| 04:03.31 | Eric02 | Writing extended state information... Done |
| 04:03.31 | Eric02 | Reading task descriptions... Done |
| 04:04.11 | liable | why are you telling us that? |
| 04:04.19 | Eric02 | just confirming... |
| 04:04.25 | Eric02 | nothing else needed to be installed ? |
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| 04:04.36 | Eric02 | installed linux-image-686-bigmem |
| 04:04.47 | abrotman | .. grounding .. |
| 04:04.59 | liable | was thinking of that.. |
| 04:05.07 | abrotman | liable: 32 cores .. 8GB ram .. |
| 04:05.16 | liable | \o/ ? |
| 04:05.40 | Eric02 | abrotman, i have installed: linux-image-686-bigmem |
| 04:05.44 | Eric02 | nothing else needed ? |
| 04:05.59 | liable | reboot |
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| 04:06.10 | liable | !reference |
| 04:06.10 | dpkg | The Debian Reference will answer most of your questions about Debian. Latest version (v2) is at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ . Read it after installing Debian and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. You can install this too, the package name is debian-reference: 'aptitude install debian-reference' |
| 04:06.25 | liable | Eric02: ^^ go read that too. its very helpfull for the new debian user |
| 04:06.33 | Eric02 | thanks liable |
| 04:06.38 | liable | yw |
| 04:07.43 | abrotman | waves |
| 04:09.47 | Eric02 | Mem: 12169 |
| 04:09.53 | Eric02 | thanks mates :) |
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| 05:25.38 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 05:25.38 | dpkg | <WiFiTux> Is there a way I could make Doom 3 run faster? I mean, can I run it in a tty, or somewhere else? |
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| 05:45.06 | albech | since i did my last update my samba upload has been hammered back to the stone age.. the download is as expected |
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| 05:55.22 | foobarz | anyone in here use a Asus PIKE 1068E MegaRAID controller? I have questions about it. |
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| 06:30.06 | mohan43u | please help me to load 'wl' automatically while booting? |
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| 06:31.52 | mohan43u | I followed this link http://wiki.debian.org/wl |
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| 06:32.02 | mohan43u | modprobe configured fine.. |
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| 06:32.38 | mohan43u | I need to change/add udev rules to load wl whenever it finds.. |
| 06:33.39 | mohan43u | if I want to write driver loading rule where I need to put? and what number I need to use? |
| 06:33.53 | mohan43u | for udev.. |
| 06:36.05 | liable | mohan43u: it should load the module automgically without a rule |
| 06:36.22 | liable | if not, add wl to /etc/modrobe.conf |
| 06:42.10 | Evet | "aptitude update" also effects apt-get? and vice-versa? |
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| 06:42.47 | mohan43u | liable: I already have a broadcom-sta-common.conf file inside /etc/modprobe.d as per instructions from Debian Wiki |
| 06:43.33 | mohan43u | liable: still 'wl' not loading automatically |
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| 06:44.13 | mohan43u | liable: after booting, when I do 'modprobe -v wl' it works.. |
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| 06:55.14 | xaashi | anyone know their way around ad-hoc networks? i have two machines that are associating to the same cell but cant ping each other .. help |
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| 06:58.06 | WormFood | how do I tell if an address is being resolved from the hosts file or from dns? |
| 06:58.43 | albech | xaashi, iptables? |
| 06:58.51 | mobidev | hi to all |
| 06:59.13 | xaashi | albech: hi, thouht so too, and disabled them |
| 06:59.30 | albech | what does ping return? |
| 06:59.34 | xaashi | albech: bit nothing still |
| 06:59.47 | albech | so just 0% success? |
| 06:59.59 | xaashi | yep Destination Host Unreachable |
| 07:00.13 | albech | what is your netmask? |
| 07:00.23 | xaashi | albech: will paste my config on patebin ... |
| 07:01.00 | albech | im actually on my way out, but im sure someone else can help you.. |
| 07:01.54 | jmarsden | WormFood: Remove it from /etc/hosts and try to resolve it again |
| 07:02.25 | xaashi | netmask is 255.255.255.0 |
| 07:02.41 | xaashi | thanks anyhow albech |
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| 07:06.21 | xaashi | if anyone can help on my ad-hoc issue, here are the stats.. so far the machine wont ping each other, thanks http://pastebin.com/d5c5b1a40 |
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| 07:17.24 | WormFood | jmarsden, not helping |
| 07:17.57 | WormFood | I want the hosts to be different from dns...I changed the host file, but it does not take effect on the command line when I ping it (and it always worked in the past) |
| 07:18.50 | jmarsden | WormFood: Ugh. Very bad practice. Look at the contents of /etc/host.conf if you insist on doing that. |
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| 07:19.46 | jmarsden | WormFood: Also check using other commands than just ping, in case ping is doing its own resolution not via the system resolver libraries. |
| 07:20.46 | WormFood | ping always worked fine with hosts in the past...I only do this for testing a new site on a new server before changing dns to the new server for the rest of the world...it is not something I do as a standard thing |
| 07:21.22 | WormFood | thanks, I forgot about the host.conf |
| 07:22.49 | karsten | WormFood: It's also possible to disable or filter ICMP echo-response, which would disable ping. |
| 07:23.42 | karsten | WormFood: You can try, say, a limited nmap scan of selected ports (ssh, http, ftp, say) to see if there's anything at a given IP (or within an IP range). You'll have to specify no-ping in the nmap command. |
| 07:23.47 | WormFood | d'oh! I found my mistake. shit! 100% my fault :( |
| 07:24.14 | WormFood | karsten, I'm aware of filtering icmp, and the machine I'm pinging is my own machine, and I know it isn't being filtered that way |
| 07:24.33 | karsten | WormFood: ... and 'dig' should answer the resolver question, thouhg I'd have to RTFM to be certain. |
| 07:24.38 | karsten | WormFood: OK. |
| 07:25.18 | karsten | Speaking of which.... |
| 07:25.21 | karsten | goes dark. |
| 07:25.37 | WormFood | yeah, I'm 99.99% sure dig does not use the hosts file in any way, it is strictly for dns |
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| 07:42.52 | Tapout | if i've got ... /var/mail/user <-- is there a way i can take that file and forward every email to X address? |
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| 07:43.47 | Rahim | need debian testing kde4 cd |
| 07:43.52 | Rahim | plz five the link |
| 07:50.11 | jmarsden | Tapout: Yes. Use an appropriate command line mail client to do it. I'd use mutt, tag all messages with T~A Enter and then bounce them all with ;bXaddress@example.com Enter |
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| 08:30.44 | omid8bimo | any idea how to increase my laptop screen resolution higher then 1280? |
| 08:31.22 | ethanol | does it support higher? |
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| 08:33.32 | valdyn | omid8bimo: try xrandr, read its manpage |
| 08:34.02 | omid8bimo | valdyn: xrandr only shows until 1280 |
| 08:34.16 | valdyn | omid8bimo: your display has only one well supports resolution, everything else looks crappy, what is it? |
| 08:34.19 | omid8bimo | valdyn: i want to know if i can increase it more |
| 08:34.24 | ethanol | then maybe your laptop does not support heigher? |
| 08:34.27 | ethanol | higher* |
| 08:34.36 | ethanol | 1280 is a pretty common limit for laptops |
| 08:34.41 | omid8bimo | valdyn: hp dv2 with ati redeaon hd 3400 graphic card |
| 08:35.00 | valdyn | omid8bimo: you read the docs, not me, then tell which resolution your display is made for |
| 08:35.18 | ethanol | 1280 is max |
| 08:35.22 | ethanol | according to google results |
| 08:35.34 | omid8bimo | valdyn: according to AMD website, support til 1900 |
| 08:35.43 | ethanol | no |
| 08:35.48 | valdyn | omid8bimo: im not asking you about the gfx chip |
| 08:35.52 | omid8bimo | ethanol: yeah i was hoping to push the limit a little more |
| 08:36.00 | ethanol | omid8bimo: you cannot push beyond max |
| 08:36.02 | valdyn | omid8bimo: it would look crappy. |
| 08:36.13 | ethanol | omid8bimo: your screen simply does not support it |
| 08:36.18 | valdyn | omid8bimo: it would only be a nominal increase, your display has a fixed pixel size |
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| 08:36.27 | omid8bimo | ethanol: valdyn: i guess so |
| 08:36.43 | valdyn | omid8bimo: in other words it wouldnt do any good beyond draining power and speed |
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| 08:37.00 | omid8bimo | hoped to get a higher resolution. i guess it's not gonna happen! |
| 08:37.10 | ethanol | high res = bad for eyes :< |
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| 08:37.17 | ethanol | stick to optimum res |
| 08:37.25 | WormFood | where is the debian place to set the locale? (what is returned with "locale -a") |
| 08:37.30 | valdyn | omid8bimo: if you want to shrink fonts you can do that, but you cannot shrink lcd pixels |
| 08:37.49 | Snadder | Anyone know how to detect if a string is utf8 or latin1? |
| 08:38.02 | valdyn | Snadder: file can do that |
| 08:38.12 | omid8bimo | valdyn: gotcha |
| 08:38.45 | Snadder | valdyn, but then I need to add the text into an file? |
| 08:38.55 | valdyn | Snadder: maybe you can pipe it, i dont know |
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| 08:40.46 | valdyn | Snadder: but there would be a workaround if you cannot pipe it directly too |
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| 08:41.03 | Snadder | valdyn, whats that? |
| 08:41.11 | Snadder | valdyn, its not possible to pipe |
| 08:41.19 | valdyn | Snadder: using a fifo |
| 08:41.58 | Snadder | valdyn, with what program? |
| 08:42.35 | valdyn | Snadder: mkfifo |
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| 08:45.32 | unkmar | looks both ways and then crosses the room. |
| 08:46.16 | unkmar | I would like to offer the ability for a user to kill one of their own programs but limit them to their programs. ideas? |
| 08:47.00 | unkmar | currently, my option is to execute shoot_self_foot() |
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| 08:54.08 | krion | hi |
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| 09:01.53 | unkmar | nevermind. |
| 09:02.01 | unkmar | and hello krion |
| 09:02.38 | WormFood | does anyone know off hand, what package is needed in debian for gd support for gallery3? I have libgd2 installed, but G3 does not recognize it...I'm thinking I'm overlooking the right package name |
| 09:05.20 | sepult | is there a browser identification module for firefox, iceweasel, mozilla ? |
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| 09:06.57 | WormFood | sepult, you don't know how to identify which browser you're using? |
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| 09:09.20 | sepult | WormFood: not me some site which is specialized for windows xp, requiring XP!!! |
| 09:10.17 | _Brandon_ | anyone knows if there is an unofficial package for iceweasel/firefox 3.6? |
| 09:11.12 | Snadder | Whats the diffrence on Non-ISO extended-ASCII, ISO-8859 and ASCII? |
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| 09:16.11 | johe|work | hi there, may Arnaud Fontaine around? |
| 09:19.52 | jelly | Snadder: ASCII and ISO-8859 encodings have a well defined usage of byte values. An 8-bit-like encoding using bytes outside of those ranges would be detected (by the file utility) as Non-ISO |
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| 09:21.22 | Snadder | jelly, i'm about to upgrade mysql from 4.0 to 5.1.. and wondring what I should do with the non-iso tables |
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| 09:23.20 | jelly | uhm... ask a mysql channel, I'd presume |
| 09:24.31 | Snadder | Ok |
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| 09:36.38 | bjoernb | hi |
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| 09:38.33 | bjoernb | i just downloaded http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/boot.img.gz and did zcat it onto a usb stick. afterwards i mounted the stick and copied http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso onto the stick. when i boot from the stick it says, that kernel headers differ and an installation would probably fail. what was my mistake? |
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| 09:41.32 | bjoernb | /stick/pendrive/ |
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| 09:48.37 | jelly | bjoernb: using the testing installer? |
| 09:49.10 | project2501a | anybody with a clue what package is CPAN's Text::CSV::Simple ? |
| 09:49.51 | jelly | project2501a: have you tried searching for /Text/CSV/Simple.pm with apt-file? |
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| 09:51.35 | bjoernb | jelly: so i should use the stable installer and then upgrade to testing? |
| 09:51.59 | liable | you could.. |
| 09:51.59 | HSorgYves | morning, should i use i386 or ia64 (or something else) on a Intel Quad Core Xeon X3360? |
| 09:52.07 | liable | or you could use the testing one.. |
| 09:52.22 | project2501a | jelly: no, good suggestion |
| 09:52.34 | liable | HSorgYves: i386 or amd64, ia64 is for itanium which you dont have |
| 09:52.41 | jelly | bjoernb: yes. |
| 09:52.43 | bjoernb | liable: can you point me to the right testing one, please? |
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| 09:52.59 | HSorgYves | liable: thx, some recommendation about 32/64 bit? |
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| 09:53.21 | jelly | bjoernb: your methodology doesn't seem wrong, it's just that testing d-i images may or may not work from day to day |
| 09:53.24 | liable | bjoernb: go to debian.org, scroll down to the developers section, look for d-i or installer, then follow the links |
| 09:53.36 | liable | HSorgYves: what you going to use it for? |
| 09:54.06 | HSorgYves | liable: internet server (bind, apache, mysql, ...) |
| 09:54.09 | liable | weeklies generally work if dailies dont |
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| 09:54.56 | liable | HSorgYves: for a server, amd64 i guess. though it doesnt really matter |
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| 09:55.09 | HSorgYves | liable: ok, thx |
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| 09:57.21 | bjoernb | liable: there is no weekly build for amd64 here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 09:58.10 | liable | bjoernb: yep, because its testing, sometimes things are broken. theres a daily? |
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| 10:00.41 | bjoernb | liable: hm the testing boot.img.gz that i took is from august. |
| 10:00.52 | bjoernb | may that be the mistake? |
| 10:00.54 | liable | bjoernb: eek |
| 10:00.57 | liable | yes |
| 10:01.21 | liable | bjoernb: maybe its best to use stable, just install base, then upgrade to testing |
| 10:01.35 | liable | why do you want testing for a server anyway though? |
| 10:02.26 | bjoernb | liable: it is not for a server. it is for my notebook |
| 10:03.23 | liable | ok |
| 10:03.36 | liable | you just mentioned the usual server things.. |
| 10:04.51 | bjoernb | i usually run testing on a notebook |
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| 10:05.12 | bjoernb | and it takes long to upgrade from stable to testing |
| 10:05.19 | bjoernb | even with a minimal system |
| 10:05.43 | amee2k|hiviz | i recently installed a dvd drive in addition to my cdrw drive. is there a debian way of creating a /dev/dvd symlink? or do i just use ln -s |
| 10:06.00 | liable | bjoernb: you on dialup? |
| 10:06.31 | amee2k|hiviz | (because right now it detects the drive as cdrw1 for some reason) |
| 10:06.43 | bjoernb | no |
| 10:06.51 | liable | symlink sounds fair |
| 10:08.03 | amee2k|hiviz | okay :) |
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| 10:15.14 | lumis | Hey, I do some AV stuff for a conference center, and we record meetings on Audio CD (I wanted solid-state media, but it never happened.) I've got a disk here that had an error in finalising (It plays on the recorder at the conference center so I know it recorded, but it's not finalised.) Is there a way to rip the entire disk to a WAV file? Not sure how to do this with an unfinalised disk |
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| 10:24.15 | davidam | hola |
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| 10:25.10 | davidam | ¿sabéis cuál es el fichero dónde se guarda si un paquete está instalado, corrupto, etc? |
| 10:25.16 | KnuckOne | !es |
| 10:25.16 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 10:25.28 | davidam | ok |
| 10:25.41 | au | !au |
| 10:25.42 | dpkg | rumour has it, au is gold, or <Australia> |
| 10:25.55 | au | !australia |
| 10:25.55 | dpkg | australia is probably known to be the ass end of the world, but we spell it 'arse', or http://www.satirewire.com/news/jan02/australia.shtml, or a small island with mini-lines when it comes to Internet access |
| 10:26.18 | au | hmph |
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| 10:32.24 | bjoernb | is this really the current installer? http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/ |
| 10:33.54 | bjoernb | 30-Aug-2009? |
| 10:34.03 | bjoernb | or am i looking at the wrong place? |
| 10:35.13 | ToreadorVampire | Hey all - having an issue with cron on a Debian Lenny system - it seems that my jobs in /etc/cron.d/foo are being ignored. I've checked the syslog (around the time that the jobs were set to run) and I can't see any messages relating to those jobs. I see /etc/cron.hourly and related though ... any ideas? |
| 10:36.26 | liable | bjoernb: do you really need a hd-image? |
| 10:36.46 | ToreadorVampire | Example of a line in in my /etc/cron.d/foo is: |
| 10:36.56 | ToreadorVampire | 0 21 * * * root backup-manager -c /etc/backup-manager/backup.daily.conf |
| 10:37.49 | ToreadorVampire | And ... if I understand the syntax correctly, that should execute `backup-manager -c /etc/backup-manager/backup.daily.conf` at 21:00 every day as root ... That's right isn't it? |
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| 10:43.29 | stillsnow | hi,when will debian 6.0 be released? |
| 10:44.01 | bjoernb | stillsnow: when it is done |
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| 10:46.20 | stillsnow | bjoernb,no certain date? |
| 10:46.42 | ToreadorVampire | stillsnow: No, there is no release schedule set in stone for Debian |
| 10:46.48 | ToreadorVampire | stillsnow: And this is a good thing IMO |
| 10:47.22 | bjoernb | bye. have to do the installation |
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| 10:48.11 | ToreadorVampire | I have migrated to debian testing coming from Ubuntu. My main gripe with Ubuntu is that they rush stuff out (before it's ready for prime time) in order to meet release deadlines. The one that really got my goat is the network-management plasmoid for KDE4. When Ubuntu released it, it was horribly broken and barely worked. |
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| 10:49.29 | stillsnow | I heard debian will be released every 3 years. |
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| 10:50.35 | ToreadorVampire | stillsnow: Maybe that is an observation: "It's released when it's ready and that tends to every 3 years", but it's not set down as a schedule or anything |
| 10:50.36 | sepult | so when is the next time ? |
| 10:51.59 | stillsnow | Also,i heard debian 6.0 will be released this year,and I'm waiting it...... |
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| 10:53.16 | steve_j | morning |
| 10:54.11 | steve_j | am just trying to set postgres up on a clean debian lenny install (on virtualbox, but that's by the by). I can get the postgres package using apt-get (as i usually do), but postgres fails to install |
| 10:54.35 | steve_j | do i need a hostname set first? |
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| 11:01.56 | jaggz | have any of you had any luck getting Win7 to mount (map) samba shares? |
| 11:04.08 | themill | jaggz: http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Windows7 |
| 11:05.05 | themill | jaggz: which implies that you need samba 3.4 from backports.org. (I personally have no experience with this) |
| 11:05.12 | petemc | samba shares from a lenny box worked with no extra config for me |
| 11:05.55 | jaggz | I think I read that page.. |
| 11:06.10 | jaggz | loading it up.. ff crashed |
| 11:06.23 | petemc | wfm |
| 11:06.30 | jaggz | yeah I added those (top two) |
| 11:06.55 | petemc | jaggz: the info on that page is regarding joining domains, to map shares should just work |
| 11:07.53 | jaggz | I turned on debugging in samba.. still don't see what's wrong.. I did just update to backports earlier.. hm |
| 11:10.27 | Snadder | after what "file" reports.. When I mix ISO-8859 and UTF-8 I get Non-Iso text extended ascii... Is there some way of checking how many ISO-8859 and how many UTF-8 characters is in the file? |
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| 11:12.34 | blubaustin | hello |
| 11:12.54 | jaggz | ok.. so now I'm getting user 'jaggz' (from session setup) not permitted to access this share (IPC$) .. although that user is listed as the valid user and the admin user.. hmm.. |
| 11:14.17 | jaggz | got something new to search on though |
| 11:14.44 | snicore | http://snicore.deviantart.com/art/Debian-151091538 |
| 11:14.53 | snicore | my new desktop :> |
| 11:15.15 | hoxu | snicore, what was that app on the right? |
| 11:15.45 | blubaustin | I just compiled proftpd 1.3.2c with mod_ban support compiled in but when I try to run the "ftpdctl ban info" command I get " ftpdctl: error contacting server using '/usr/local/var/proftpd/proftpd.sock': Connection refused" |
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| 11:17.45 | snicore | hoxu, its a conky |
| 11:17.59 | snicore | hoxu, http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=92328 |
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| 11:19.40 | justin_seeley_bc | Snadder: get known of the construction of both codes may help |
| 11:21.23 | KnuckOne | me-look.org/content/show.php?content=92328 |
| 11:21.23 | KnuckOne | [12:18:29] -!- kaane [n=kal@f053083110.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #debian |
| 11:21.31 | KnuckOne | oops |
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| 11:21.47 | zxd | hi |
| 11:22.11 | zxd | is there a small script I can use to verify a package is installed , mayba switch to dpkg |
| 11:22.20 | zxd | something that dosen't output alot of info , just installed or not |
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| 11:23.43 | prince_jammys | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:24.11 | jaggz | I don't have any system handling the workgroup domain server stuff.. just basic clients.. hm. |
| 11:24.59 | jaggz | I've been able to share, using \\ip\sharename for years, with XP mapping samba shares from my linux boxes.. but never been able to browse them |
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| 11:26.14 | petemc | jaggz: thats configurable |
| 11:26.41 | amgarchIn9 | Hi, do we have that "module" environment manipulation tools in debian? http://modules.sourceforge.net/ Cannot seem to find it. |
| 11:28.26 | zxd | prince_jammys, thanks |
| 11:28.50 | prince_jammys | zxd: welcome. that's probably one in a myriad of ways |
| 11:29.20 | prince_jammys | multiple package names may be supplied |
| 11:30.17 | lumis | Is there a way (possibly through NDIS wrapper) to use microsoft keyboard drivers in X? I've tried xev and everything, but nothing shows up the extra function keys. |
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| 11:36.26 | lumis | thinks everyone has him on /ignore :P |
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| 11:38.01 | petemc | !multimedia keys |
| 11:38.01 | dpkg | Multimedia keys are the special keyboard keys for doing such things as changing the volume or launching your web browser. Check to see if these keys generate a scan code using xev and set the keyboard layout correctly or assign them to a shortcut with xmodmap, kcontrolcenter, gnome-control-panel etc. Also ask about <keytouch>, <tpb>. See http://tuxmobil.org/Mobile-Guide.db/mobile-guide-p2c1s8-ext-keys.html |
| 11:38.56 | petemc | lumis: tho if you're not seeing anything happen with xev when you hit the buttons, im not sure what you could do, i dont think drivers would help |
| 11:39.58 | lumis | so what's the problem? They work fine in Windows ;__; |
| 11:40.50 | petemc | lumis: how are you using xev ? |
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| 11:41.53 | lumis | typing 'xev' at a terminal, focusing on the xev window and hitting the function keys; no output in the terminal as with normal keys |
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| 11:44.28 | petemc | lumis: pass then, i would have thought typing 'linux microsoft keyboard' into google would yield results, they are very common |
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| 11:55.19 | Ironhand | I've just installed cron-apt(8) and set it to MAILON=upgrade ... odd thing is that whenever I run it manually from the shell as root it sends a mail correctly, if I schedule a cronjob then the program is run by cron (as visible in syslog) but no mail is generated... anyone know what's causing this? |
| 11:55.39 | Ironhand | (both commandline and cron run without commandline args) |
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| 12:00.14 | Flaviu | Who want to make money from hack, /q Flaviu :) |
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| 12:05.17 | lumis | petemc: The other thing I tried doing was 'sudo cat /dev/input/event3;' again, all the 'normal' keys made some kind of output, but the multimedia keys didn't, which is what made me think maybe there's a kernel module or patch or something I need |
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| 12:08.09 | rvsjoen | afaik xev should have picked them up if they were there |
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| 12:12.47 | lumis | rvsjoen: yeah you'd think so :( |
| 12:12.58 | lumis | gonna upgrade to the latest kernel and see what happens |
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| 12:13.20 | rvsjoen | are you running kde ? |
| 12:13.27 | lumis | no, Xfce |
| 12:13.43 | blahdeblah | Hi. How can i put my laptop in standby mode from the command line? i.e. do what the menu does, but without confirmation, and from a script? |
| 12:13.50 | rvsjoen | ok, because I know kde has some way of choosing the keyboard model |
| 12:14.27 | rvsjoen | what keyboard is it ? |
| 12:14.51 | lumis | Microsoft Wireless Media Desktop 1000 |
| 12:14.55 | lumis | (I know, Microsoft, sorry :() |
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| 12:15.51 | jelly | don't be, MS makes some nice keyboard and mice devices |
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| 12:16.22 | lumis | heh, it is a very nice set, I'm just annoyed about the extra keys |
| 12:16.33 | rvsjoen | lumis: try keytouch |
| 12:16.44 | lumis | rvsjoen: I have |
| 12:16.48 | rvsjoen | and nothing ? |
| 12:17.06 | lumis | yeah, nothing |
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| 12:17.19 | rvsjoen | if keytouch gives you nothing i'd say the driver is screwed |
| 12:17.26 | lumis | gonna update the kernel and try again |
| 12:17.29 | lumis | with keytouch |
| 12:18.22 | ktlr | hi there, how do i see the next page from linux mail command ? |
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| 12:19.37 | jpinx-eeepc | udev has mounted a vfat SD card, but I can't write to it. mount says it's been mounted uid=1000 (me). anyone able to help? |
| 12:20.12 | jpinx-eeepc | mount says "/dev/sdc on /media/SD16GB type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,utf8,umask=077) " |
| 12:20.36 | rvsjoen | and writing to it says what ? permission denied ? |
| 12:20.58 | jpinx-eeepc | rvsjoen: yes - using pcmanfm filemanager in lxde |
| 12:21.59 | jpinx-eeepc | I plugged it in as myself, not another user, so it "should" come up as rw enabled to me |
| 12:22.12 | rvsjoen | looks like it has as well |
| 12:22.58 | lumis | so is there no way to run the windows driver throu ndiswrapper or something? |
| 12:23.09 | jpinx-eeepc | what actually happens is the cut /paste options are greyed out in the gui file manageer |
| 12:23.32 | rvsjoen | check the permissions in a terminal |
| 12:25.02 | jpinx-eeepc | rvsjoen: eww - ls -al gives me io errors :( |
| 12:25.12 | cire | I got a new keyboard with some special keys. How may I map actions to those keys? |
| 12:33.18 | zxd | is there a way to make aptitude install , return exit 1 , instead of 0 in case it can't install a package? |
| 12:33.19 | zxd | if the package dosen't exist for example |
| 12:33.19 | zxd | it's for a script |
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| 12:34.39 | jelly | dpkg: are... you... registered to this network, bot? |
| 12:34.39 | dpkg | Test failed. |
| 12:34.39 | dpkg | jelly: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 12:34.39 | jelly | dpkg: I wish you weren't lagged as hell. |
| 12:34.39 | dpkg | jelly: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 12:34.39 | jelly | dpkg: lag |
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| 12:34.40 | lumis | lawl |
| 12:34.40 | lumis | quick question: where's the RTC frequency selector in the kernel menuconfig? |
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| 12:35.21 | lumis | lawl |
| 12:35.26 | jpinx-eeepc | does a partiton have to be mounted to run mkfs ? |
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| 12:55.17 | dpkg | netsplit is probably A deliberate disconnection between (at least) two servers on one IRC network. Usually occurs when the output-queue for the link has filled up too much to make a timely (re)sync likely, so it's preferred to maintain sanity (and lag-freeness) for both parts of the network. Occurs anywhere where links between IRC-servers have too little bandwidth (available/allocated). |
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| 12:57.45 | Snadder | How does mkfifo works? |
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| 12:58.43 | hanibana | any help ? |
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| 12:58.58 | rvsjoen | snadder: what do you want to check ? |
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| 12:59.17 | rvsjoen | mkfifo just creates a named pipe than you can write to and read from |
| 12:59.33 | Snadder | rvsjoen, which charsets each byte of the file has |
| 12:59.54 | rvsjoen | that doesnt make any sense to me, a byte can be decoded in any charset you want |
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| 13:01.10 | themill | s/byte/byte sequence/, s/any/almost any/ |
| 13:01.29 | rvsjoen | right |
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| 13:37.39 | liable | Sibul: are you building them on a 386 box? |
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| 13:37.39 | liable | bleh, ^^ to whoever it was asking about that.. |
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| 13:37.40 | Slydder | no. as stated it's a amd64 system |
| 13:37.40 | Slydder | amd64 kernel and bins |
| 13:37.40 | liable | and your sources say 64? thats odd.. |
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| 13:37.49 | d1b | liable: yah yikes lots a split |
| 13:37.49 | jelly | Slydder: your sources are wrong. |
| 13:37.56 | Slydder | no. i did a normal apt-get sources php5 ( for example) |
| 13:38.04 | d1b | liable: everyone is being moved into debian offerflow ... probably |
| 13:38.07 | d1b | over* |
| 13:38.07 | jelly | Slydder: what does "dpkg --print-architecture" say? |
| 13:38.20 | chops1 | So it could just be me, but it seems that the mail merge functionality in Openoffice is well-nigh unusable (though it seems that technically it may be possible to make it work). No? |
| 13:38.36 | Slydder | i386 |
| 13:38.38 | Slydder | wtf |
| 13:38.43 | liable | so |
| 13:38.48 | d1b | chops1: wa? |
| 13:38.58 | liable | fix that.. and you dont really have a 64 install.. |
| 13:39.00 | jelly | Slydder: your system isn't amd64, then. |
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| 13:39.37 | Slydder | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:39.37 | jelly | Slydder: (your hardware and even kernel might be, but that Debian OS is 32 bit) |
| 13:39.51 | liable | Slydder: thats just the kernel |
| 13:39.52 | Slydder | amd64 can run both. seems i386 is installed |
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| 13:41.00 | chops1 | d1b: It allows me to try to merge against a .csv file, but accomplishes nothing when I try. I have to create a separate intermediate .odb file by hand (pointing to the .csv file) for no good reason that I can see. Then, it allows me to remap certain selected hard-coded fields (such as address and name), but not to remap fields with names that _I_ choose. I'm winding up going into the .csv and editing the column names because I can't |
| 13:41.18 | g00dtimes | !tell Slydder about amd64 |
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| 13:41.30 | chops1 | d1b: I think I can make it work... but it's taken hours longer than it seems like it should. |
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| 13:42.41 | chops1 | d1b: Also, it seems like maybe I'm just missing something, but I don't see an option to filter the .csv rows that I'm selecting. |
| 13:42.42 | Slydder | is there a way to migrate the box to full amd64 without a new install? |
| 13:42.55 | liable | nope |
| 13:42.57 | Slydder | or would someone in debian-amd64 be better able to help |
| 13:43.06 | liable | you can ask |
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| 13:44.25 | chops1 | Slydder: One of the release goals for the next release is to make that a possibility (along with generally better handling of similar situations), FWIW. It's not possible right now though. |
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| 13:46.47 | Slydder | super. I think I'll just go kill my collegue now. |
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| 13:47.06 | liable | pics or it didn't happen |
| 13:47.18 | d1b | Slydder: you sort of can. |
| 13:47.32 | d1b | debootstrap, reboot / install amd64bit kernel |
| 13:47.39 | Slydder | he wanted to finally do a deb install and this happens. |
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| 13:47.48 | liable | thats kindof the same as reinstalling |
| 13:47.49 | Slydder | amd64 kernel is in |
| 13:48.18 | Slydder | kernel/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-amd64 root=/dev/mapper/qw1-root ro quiet |
| 13:48.20 | d1b | chops1: try in #openoffice ? |
| 13:48.28 | d1b | liable: pretty much. |
| 13:48.35 | d1b | except you get to keep your data! |
| 13:48.43 | d1b | (handy for luks etc.) |
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| 13:49.51 | valdyn | Slydder: #debian-amd64 is dead pretty much I think |
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| 13:50.42 | Slydder | wtf would amd64 be dead? |
| 13:50.55 | valdyn | Slydder: try reading again |
| 13:50.57 | liable | cause its kindof pointless |
| 13:51.30 | Slydder | 64 bit is pointless? am I missing something here? |
| 13:51.38 | liable | the channel.. |
| 13:51.45 | Slydder | ah. lol |
| 13:51.46 | valdyn | one of debians most important properties is that release are as identical as possible |
| 13:51.46 | Slydder | ok |
| 13:51.56 | valdyn | ( across architectures ) |
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| 13:52.44 | jelly | except for the things that aren't! |
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| 13:57.38 | d1b | jelly: endineneses! |
| 13:58.15 | jelly | d1b: all architectures have both ends |
| 13:58.17 | d1b | some archs are just different forms of endianness on a single arch! |
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| 13:58.31 | d1b | 'debian' arch. |
| 13:58.57 | d1b | then it gets really confusing where you run the other abi on the ... :P |
| 13:59.01 | jelly | d1b: I'll have you know that armel has a COMPLETELY different ABI to arm!!!!1 |
| 13:59.14 | jelly | it's not just endianess ;-) |
| 13:59.16 | d1b | jelly: i know! |
| 13:59.31 | d1b | Linux linky 2.6.32.4 #1 Tue Jan 19 16:20:16 EST 2010 armv5tel GNU/Linux |
| 13:59.55 | Slydder | so what's the deal now? what if we want a full 64 bit debian? |
| 14:00.08 | d1b | Slydder: probably a good idea. |
| 14:01.02 | Slydder | do we just install the amd64 kernel (like was have atm) and then use the normal reps in sources.list or is there a special amd64 rep? |
| 14:01.18 | d1b | Slydder: different packages. |
| 14:01.23 | Slydder | the links I have found all point to a amd64 rep that no longer exists |
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| 14:02.41 | jelly | Slydder: you just install amd64, and it's already "full 64 bit" |
| 14:02.58 | jelly | normal repos, it's a supported architecture |
| 14:03.24 | Shadur | I've got a lenny-amd64 suphp webhosting environment set up and working well, but when I try to install phpmyadmin on the same system it's refusing to kick in a handler - even if I explicitly tell it to disable the suPHP_Engine. Is it possible to load and use the regular mod_php5 for just this one directory? |
| 14:03.36 | Slydder | then why does dpkg --print-architecture show i386 when the kernel is amd64? |
| 14:04.10 | jelly | Slydder: you didn't use the amd64 installer image, but the i386 one |
| 14:04.26 | valdyn | Slydder: the kernel does not affect the debian release you installed |
| 14:04.49 | Slydder | er sagt er hat der amd64 net installer benutzt |
| 14:04.53 | jelly | when I wrote "install amd64", I meant the distro |
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| 14:10.28 | surfdue | hey |
| 14:10.42 | surfdue | my datacenter is telling me they have to reinstall Debian for a hardware raid 1 is this true? |
| 14:11.09 | d1b | surfdue: hardware? |
| 14:11.12 | d1b | .... |
| 14:11.42 | surfdue | d1b, hmm? |
| 14:11.50 | d1b | surfdue: bit odd |
| 14:12.01 | Slydder | ok. time for a i386 to amd64 migration. |
| 14:12.06 | Slydder | wish me luck |
| 14:12.11 | liable | no |
| 14:12.13 | liable | :P |
| 14:12.26 | surfdue | d1b, what about software does taht require a reinstall |
| 14:12.49 | sep | surfdue, what do you have now ? |
| 14:12.57 | surfdue | no raid. |
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| 14:13.26 | Arrowmaster | if you have 1 harddrive and they are going to create a raid1 by adding another drive then both methods hardware and software do not require a reinstall |
| 14:13.40 | Arrowmaster | they are likely just too lazy to spend the time and effort |
| 14:13.52 | d1b | Arrowmaster: i think they are monkies. |
| 14:14.10 | abrotman | monkeys? |
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| 14:14.37 | Arrowmaster | right, the data would likely go up in a ball of flames if they tried to migrate it |
| 14:14.48 | liable | oops, now you got abrotman excited |
| 14:15.37 | Arrowmaster | since its not a simple plugin and push button procedure |
| 14:16.03 | surfdue | they are stupid |
| 14:16.15 | liable | did you ask for raid? |
| 14:16.22 | surfdue | yes |
| 14:16.25 | surfdue | they are fucking retarded |
| 14:16.28 | surfdue | i hate this datacenter |
| 14:16.37 | liable | so get a new one.. |
| 14:16.38 | surfdue | they are lazy. they have great prices but lazy. |
| 14:16.46 | abrotman | this is a Debian problem ? |
| 14:16.57 | d1b | abrotman: yes |
| 14:17.12 | surfdue | $99/mo 5tb bw, 2x 2.8 dual core xeon, 8gb ram, 1tb drive |
| 14:17.16 | abrotman | how? |
| 14:17.20 | d1b | perhaps not... |
| 14:17.32 | d1b | surfdue: well you don't need to reinstall |
| 14:17.35 | surfdue | abrotman, they blame debian for not allowing them to put RAID software or hardware without reinstall |
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| 14:17.48 | surfdue | and i know you can, they are just monkeys |
| 14:17.53 | abrotman | anyways .. |
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| 14:20.41 | thrashold | surfdue: If you have full access to the server, and it has >=2 drives, you can create the RAID yourself |
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| 14:22.06 | thrashold | That said, I still don't know how to get my Debian recognize my swap RAID to resume from it |
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| 14:22.56 | liable | swap partition or file? |
| 14:23.10 | thrashold | RAID-0 of 3 partitions |
| 14:23.14 | liable | tuxonice does swap file, others don't iirc |
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| 14:24.02 | jerojasro | hi all. I can't type neither the less-than or greater-than chars. I configured my keyboard with "setxkbmap es -model pc105". what might be the problem? |
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| 14:24.43 | jerojasro | (I mean, when I press such key on the keyboard, the expected char (less-than) doesn't appear) |
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| 14:27.29 | WormFood | when I issue an "locale -a", where is it getting that data from? Where do I set that data in debian? |
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| 14:28.37 | DerGuteMoritz | hey guys, how do I specify a debian package's Depends entry that expresses that I want a package version = 1.2.3 or > 1.2.4? |
| 14:30.31 | jelly | DerGuteMoritz: foo (= 1.2.3) | foo (>> 1.2.4) |
| 14:31.18 | jelly | WormFood: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 14:31.38 | DerGuteMoritz | jelly: alrighty, thanks! |
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| 14:42.53 | WormFood | "locale -a" will list the available locales...how do I give it more locales? (as much as I hate redhat, they seem to get this one right, and include ALL locales in a default install) |
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| 14:43.14 | buu | hrm |
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| 14:43.31 | jelly | WormFood: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 14:43.38 | DannyButterman | Hi there |
| 14:44.08 | DannyButterman | I need help on DBMail, DBMA in this case |
| 14:44.32 | DannyButterman | does someone know something about its ACL maangement ? |
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| 14:44.46 | WormFood | well jelly, it appears that package isn't installed...I suspect simply installing it will "fix" my "problem" |
| 14:45.18 | jelly | "possibly" |
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| 14:45.33 | d1b | apt: go fish |
| 14:46.10 | jelly | ravenbird: hi |
| 14:46.12 | ravenbird | Many greetings, jelly, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 14:46.14 | cirwin | can anyone help me with ipv6? I have tried most of the fixes I can find on the internet, and it still hangs for upwards of five minutes trying to connect to a host broadcasting an ip6 address |
| 14:46.19 | WormFood | nope, you're right, I needed "dpkg-reconfigure locales"...thanks a lot jelly...I couldn't for the life of me find this info with google. |
| 14:46.54 | d1b | jelly: why is ravenbird in this channel? |
| 14:46.55 | jelly | WormFood: try asking dpkg, the bot, about stuff. "/msg dpkg locales" |
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| 14:47.22 | jelly | WormFood: on a day when this irc notwork is less turbulent |
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| 14:47.43 | WormFood | good idea jelly, I hadn't even thought to ask the bot |
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| 14:49.40 | LuciusMare | hi |
| 14:49.42 | LuciusMare | i have kdm and kde(-minimal) installed, but when trying to log in, after succeseful log,it throws me back to the kdm login screen |
| 14:49.45 | WormFood | it freaked me out, that gallery 2 required the locales to be available at the OS level before you can view the web page in a different language (I believe this is a php requirement), but gallery 3 has no such limitations |
| 14:50.21 | themill | WormFood: it's a requirement if you use php's gettext() but it's possible to work around that limitation with lots of additional php cruft in place. |
| 14:51.06 | LuciusMare | oh,andi am running squeeze |
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| 14:51.27 | WormFood | yeah, as I was googling for a solution, I was bumping into php stuff....I'm not that heavy into php programming. |
| 14:51.30 | themill | dpkg: tell LuciusMare about multiple ask |
| 14:51.41 | WormFood | I think gallery 3 uses a different approach to multiple languages |
| 14:51.53 | WormFood | anyways, thanks for the help guys |
| 14:52.23 | lumis | petemc: kernel upgrade did it ^^, all working great with xbindkeys |
| 14:52.54 | LuciusMare | themill: i just added an inofmration,no need to paste it all again |
| 14:53.03 | lumis | now I just need to figure out what the hell's wrong with Compiz/DRI/AIGLX |
| 14:53.48 | themill | encourages LuciusMare to read more carefully |
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| 14:57.04 | Inazad | hi, I have this command : unzip myfile.zip -d output/ ... I don't want the output of the zip (which files are extracted, I want a quite extract) |
| 14:57.18 | LuciusMare | Inazad: did you try -q (for -quiet?) |
| 14:57.29 | Inazad | :\ its the option :S lol |
| 14:57.38 | Inazad | never thinked |
| 14:58.04 | Inazad | so command = unzip myzip.zip -d -q output/ |
| 14:58.10 | Inazad | or -dq |
| 14:59.03 | DannyButterman | Inazad: you want to unzip a file in command line ? just unzip <filename.zip> |
| 14:59.03 | prince_jammys | output/ is the option argument of -d |
| 14:59.24 | Inazad | so unzip myfile.zip -q -d output/ |
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| 15:11.27 | _santa | Hello. |
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| 15:11.51 | _santa | make not found in debian default distro. Should I install it manually or am I doing something wrong? |
| 15:12.10 | themill | !b-e _santa |
| 15:12.10 | dpkg | _santa: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
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| 15:17.21 | klusias | i got debian3.1, and made some apt-get updates...after restart it gives me segmentation faults (even on "ls")..is any way to recover it? |
| 15:18.59 | jamesstanley | Can anyone recommend a system of performing compressed backups to a remote machine? |
| 15:19.24 | jamesstanley | Something I could run like "backup /home/james backup-server:/backups/homejames" |
| 15:19.27 | ethanol | is it me, or did http://www.adobe.com/ @&#$^% up the paths to their css files? |
| 15:19.28 | jamesstanley | for example |
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| 15:20.34 | jamesstanley | Or should I just write my own script to compress the directory and rsync it across? |
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| 15:29.05 | DannyButterman | Can Someone help me on DBMail ? |
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| 15:34.03 | Slydder | migration complete |
| 15:34.19 | Slydder | was almost fun. except for the libc replacement. lol |
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| 15:36.46 | johnga1t | i've got an etch system that's suffering from the "+5 year old" tetex/texlive bug. suggestions on how to fix? |
| 15:36.47 | CSSipi | Does anyone know when the .no mirror is back online? |
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| 15:37.15 | Slydder | so. lenny i386 to amd64 is 100% possible and not even that difficult |
| 15:37.22 | Slydder | the migration that is. |
| 15:37.33 | Slydder | collecting packages can be a bit of a pain though. lol |
| 15:39.51 | tdn | With tar, how do I set the compression level? Say, I want to do gzip level 4 or bzip2 level 9? |
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| 15:42.12 | themill | tdn: man gzip has examples for that bit at least |
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| 15:43.29 | tdn | themill, I know how to do it with gzip. I asked about tar. Normally I would just type tar -czvf foo.tar.gz somedir, but there I do not specify a compression level. |
| 15:43.37 | BenBE | Anyone around that could help with clearifying some small issue with HAL on command line? |
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| 15:43.58 | themill | tdn: man gzip has examples for that bit at least |
| 15:44.19 | BenBE | The issue: How to get hal-find-by-property to return only block device entries, but no volumes on them? |
| 15:44.59 | themill | tdn: look at the GZIP environment variable. |
| 15:45.16 | BenBE | Tried "hal-find-by-property --key info.category --string storage --key block.device --string /dev/hdc --key block.is_volume --string false" but this always returns nothing; without the last --key/--string pair it returns both the block device and the volume ... |
| 15:45.55 | tdn | themill, the gzip man page does not mention that the env vars will be used by tar? |
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| 15:46.34 | themill | it does under the "CAVEATS" section. |
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| 15:47.22 | LuciusMare | ohai, why there is no firefox in squeeze repos? |
| 15:47.52 | themill | LuciusMare: it's called iceweasel |
| 15:47.57 | tdn | Ok. |
| 15:48.13 | LuciusMare | themill: i know, but i expected the "real" firefox also in the repos |
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| 15:48.24 | LuciusMare | i would use it,but my extensions dont work with this version |
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| 15:48.32 | LuciusMare | such as adblock |
| 15:48.48 | themill | LuciusMare: adblock doesn't work with the "real" firefox either as of firefox 3.5 |
| 15:49.03 | LuciusMare | huh |
| 15:49.12 | LuciusMare | i had firefox 3.5 and it worked |
| 15:49.12 | BenBE | Use adblock plus instead ... |
| 15:49.29 | LuciusMare | oh,yes,by adblock i meant adblock plus |
| 15:49.36 | themill | ... |
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| 16:23.20 | krion | is there a way to have an installer with vconfig (vlan package) in it ? |
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| 16:30.35 | liable | krion: not really. if it ain't in the installer, adding it is no easy task |
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| 16:30.46 | liable | dammit |
| 16:30.54 | liable | why does that always happen? |
| 16:31.22 | mostel | guys, any idea why it shows me that message when I try e.g. apt-get update: W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/updates/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found |
| 16:31.23 | mostel | ? |
| 16:31.38 | liable | try another mirror |
| 16:31.50 | mostel | i had us and changed to uk and still the same.. |
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| 16:32.14 | liable | can you ping it? |
| 16:32.32 | mostel | liable, nope : |
| 16:32.39 | mostel | liable, which mirror do you recommend ? |
| 16:32.59 | liable | so you have general internet issues i guess. can you ping anything? |
| 16:33.04 | cirwin | liable: the /updates/ director does not exist http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/ |
| 16:33.26 | liable | you can ping ftp.uk.debian.org though? |
| 16:33.27 | mostel | liable, I can ping, yes |
| 16:33.30 | mostel | sec |
| 16:33.44 | mostel | yeap |
| 16:33.54 | liable | put your sources on a pastebot |
| 16:34.23 | mostel | pastebot ? you mean a paste page? |
| 16:34.27 | liable | yeah |
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| 16:36.11 | mostel | liable, http://pastebin.com/d5b975597 |
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| 16:37.28 | matalo | hey all.. I'd like to override theme_username() to display a CCK field rather than the actual username. Thing is when users are loaded sometimes that CCK data is not available. How can I hook in to force some CCK data to always be pulled out into user objects no matter wheere I am in the site?? |
| 16:37.47 | liable | mostel: its your security deb-src line i think. comment that out |
| 16:38.01 | abrotman | matalo: wrong channel ? |
| 16:38.17 | matalo | abrotman: *sigh* yeah :( |
| 16:39.00 | mostel | liable, hmm.. actually yes! it worked now.. But, still, no deb-src ? |
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| 16:39.15 | liable | mostel: not for security updates |
| 16:39.29 | krion | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=433568 |
| 16:39.34 | liable | i don't know what happens for that actually |
| 16:39.34 | krion | that's too bad, 2007 |
| 16:41.03 | liable | abortman, you know what happens to sources in stable that get security updates? |
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| 16:44.57 | chomwitt | what is the kernel that is included in debian installer ? |
| 16:45.05 | liable | 2.6.26 |
| 16:45.15 | chomwitt | liable: thanks |
| 16:45.23 | liable | np |
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| 16:48.05 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 16:48.05 | dpkg | <]BdS[DrDefrag> i want to overclock my proliant dl580 g2 to compile the 2.6 kernel more quickly. any recommendations ? |
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| 16:52.53 | jelly | !qotd260 |
| 16:52.53 | dpkg | <OdyX> Hi. Each time I hit my "w" button on the keyboard, it produces "we" (sometimes weeeith more "e") (both are adjacent)… Can this be a softweare issue or should I look on the hardweeare side ? |
| 16:53.15 | liable | weeeith :) |
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| 16:54.06 | liable | !qotd131 |
| 16:54.06 | dpkg | < Raf256> wazup < Raf256> how can I change repeat rate and delay? < Raf256> in X < asg> Raf256: man xset < Raf256> asg: ok \o/ < Raf256> asg: oohh ddddaaaammnn < Raf256> ssssttuuppiiddd rrreeepppaaaattt rrrraaattee |
| 16:54.55 | mallxs | lol |
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| 16:56.29 | mallxs | hey my sound doesn't work and i have no idea how it should work , so i looked in my dmesg but not a word like 'sound' or audio' where should i look for ?? |
| 16:56.43 | jelly | liable: almost exactly half the quotes ago |
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| 16:57.13 | LuciusMare | hi |
| 16:57.17 | LuciusMare | i am using icweasel with kde, but it does not look like the rest of kde, kinda like from windows (grey, squarish theme) |
| 16:57.31 | liable | jelly: coincidence? i think not! :) |
| 16:57.43 | sash_ | LuciusMare: thats because it is a gtk, not-qt-application |
| 16:57.58 | liable | mallxs: you have sound modules loaded? |
| 16:58.13 | LuciusMare | sash_: oh |
| 16:58.23 | LuciusMare | sash_: can i set it so it looks like my theme? |
| 16:58.30 | jelly | sash_: this is why new opera will link to both gtk and/or qt/kde! |
| 16:58.30 | ambuli__ | any link available for how to create my own debian repository ? |
| 16:58.43 | liable | i've never seen the weasel look odd in kde |
| 16:58.46 | jelly | !tell ambuli__ -about own repo |
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| 16:58.53 | ambuli__ | yes jelly |
| 16:58.54 | sash_ | LuciusMare: not really. you could check out the silvermel-theme. imho it integrates better. not perfect, but better |
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| 16:59.40 | jelly | ambuli__: no jelly, but private message from dpkg. |
| 16:59.44 | LuciusMare | hm |
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| 16:59.51 | LuciusMare | when i used firefox, it looked great |
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| 17:00.05 | sash_ | i use chromium for a few weeks. on my eeepc its unbelievable faster. |
| 17:00.05 | liable | it should use your kde theme |
| 17:00.41 | keith4 | in the ftp sync config for debian mirrors, the architecture exlude list has possible values of "alpha amd64 arm armel hppa hurd-i386 i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 m68k mipsel mips powerpc s390 sh sparc". what is "sh"? |
| 17:01.09 | jaggz | if I have no wins server, and no subnets, just a samba server on a linux box, then an xp machine and a win7 machine.. how do I get my drives shared? |
| 17:01.14 | mallxs | liable: lsmod shows: snd and soundcore , ac97_bus and some more |
| 17:01.27 | liable | !soundcheck |
| 17:01.27 | dpkg | Pff pff, is this thing on? cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp ...use Ctrl-C to stop it after a few seconds. If it doesn't fail, you either have OSS or alsa with OSS emulation working. |
| 17:01.32 | jaggz | I've used samba for years and years but win7 is being difficult |
| 17:01.35 | ambuli__ | jelly, so once after i have created my own repo, i can use dput command to upload the package is not ? |
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| 17:01.49 | jelly | keith4: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperH |
| 17:02.15 | liable | ambuli__: dont get in front of yourself. get the repo working first |
| 17:02.15 | jaggz | I upgraded to a bpo of samba, and I added those 2 registry keys to my win7 machine, but it's still not working |
| 17:02.17 | keith4 | jelly: oh, wild. it's not referenced here, which confused me. http://www.debian.org/mirror/size |
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| 17:02.24 | jaggz | oh heck, lemme restart the whole win7 system |
| 17:02.46 | ambuli__ | liable, Mm ok. |
| 17:03.26 | mallxs | liable: Now i have a very big file in my /dev :-) |
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| 17:04.23 | LuciusMare | hm,also,there was a option in systemsettings, on kubuntu, it was called something like gtk+ settings - maybe it had something to do with it? |
| 17:04.38 | jelly | keith4: I think it's dead as far as Debian's concerned, dunno which release that happened in |
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| 17:05.53 | mallxs | liable: but i have a /dev/snd dir with controleC0 pcmxxxx seq and timer |
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| 17:07.29 | mallxs | liable: cat /vmlinux ? /dev/snd/controleC0 does give some noise but its form my pc speaker |
| 17:07.59 | liable | mallxs: modrpobe snd-pcm-oss |
| 17:08.14 | ambuli__ | jelly "deb http://localhost/~username/foo ./ i have created my foo directory in /home/ambuli/debian-repo/public_html/repo. |
| 17:08.36 | ambuli__ | is it enought just to use deb http://localhost/ambuli/foo" ? |
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| 17:08.55 | jaggz | yeah, won't mount still |
| 17:08.58 | jaggz | map |
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| 17:09.39 | jelly | ambuli__: if that's the only machine you're going to use it from, you can do just "deb file:/home/ambuli/debian-repo/public_html/repo ./", no need to go through a web server |
| 17:10.01 | ambuli__ | ok |
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| 17:10.23 | mallxs | liable: that did it ... is it now fixed or sould i put the modeprobe some where in the startup ? |
| 17:11.08 | liable | mallxs: udev *should* load it, but if it doesn't stick that in /etc/modprobe.conf |
| 17:11.35 | mallxs | liable: many thx man will do |
| 17:12.03 | liable | yw |
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| 17:14.27 | ambuli__ | jelly, have added , do i have to do apt-get update ? |
| 17:15.01 | ambuli__ | jelly, the main intention is to check dput command usage. |
| 17:15.02 | jelly | ambuli__: yes. |
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| 17:20.41 | krion | is it safe to upgrade libc6 ? |
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| 17:22.28 | tlir | my machine just got freezed and last thing in syslog was " Bad page state in process 'mysqld' page:c169a320 flags:0x40000040 mapping:00000000 mapcount:17 count:0" described more elaborately here: http://pastebin.ca/1759148 |
| 17:22.34 | tlir | just wondering if anybody's got a clue |
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| 17:25.31 | n-iCe | Hello, anyone have connected an Ipod and use it? I have an ipod touch, and isn't working in Debian Lenny 5.0, any ideas? |
| 17:26.00 | n-iCe | Here is my dmesg: http://asdasdasdas.pastebin.com/md8fc178 |
| 17:26.12 | n-iCe | lsusb: Bus 007 Device 005: ID 05ac:1291 Apple, Inc. |
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| 17:28.44 | LuciusMare | and,hopefully last question |
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| 17:28.51 | LuciusMare | how do i install localization support to kde? |
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| 17:32.47 | themill | dpkg: tell LuciusMare about seach |
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| 17:34.41 | nkuttler | hm, what do i use to send html mails? does thunderbird support that? |
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| 17:36.12 | themill | LuciusMare: that should be "/msg dpkg search" but hey... |
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| 17:37.03 | LuciusMare | they already told me at #kde |
| 17:37.06 | LuciusMare | thanks anyway,though |
| 17:37.36 | simonrvn | nkuttler: yes. but many geeks frown upon that, and many non-geeks too |
| 17:38.57 | jair | hello guys. I installed firefox 3.5.7 on my machine (compiled from source) everything looks fine so far, I can run it in debian lenny stable. But I need to find a way to tell linux that the default browser is not iceweasel instead is firefox 3.5.7 I tried this command= update-alternatives --config x-www-browser but obviously said there is just one option "/bin/iceweasel" is there anything I can do to make firefox default? |
| 17:38.58 | nkuttler | yeah, i'm a mutt user, that's why i need to ask. business client.. |
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| 17:39.40 | jair | I already try changing the settings on the firefox itself the option to be the default is check but not good results yet. |
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| 17:40.26 | themill | nkuttler: yeah, most of the gui mailers can do so although the composer is normally limited in what it can do (e.g. can't do tables or whatever). icedove, kmail, evolution, ... |
| 17:42.30 | nkuttler | themill: oh, ok. i guess i'll need to look into some perl module or something |
| 17:43.34 | themill | nkuttler: yeah, if you're wanting to construct some really glossy complicated thing, then you're going to end up designing it as a web page and then packaging it up into a multi-part mime thingy yourself. |
| 17:44.29 | nkuttler | themill: ok, thanks |
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| 17:45.02 | ctp | hi folks. anyone here from the chicago area? i'll be there for a year and am looking for a broadband access to get inet in time. which provider would you recommend? at&t? |
| 17:45.12 | ambuli__ | jelly |
| 17:46.19 | ctp | ambuli__: jelly? |
| 17:46.30 | ctp | ambuli__: ups, sorry ;-) |
| 17:46.44 | ctp | didnt see there's such a nick ;-) |
| 17:46.57 | ambuli__ | jelly i get the error E: Malformed line 55 in source list /etc/apt/ssource.list |
| 17:47.02 | ambuli__ | while apt-get update |
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| 17:49.12 | LuciusMare | so i installed gtk-qt-engine |
| 17:49.18 | n-iCe | Hello, anyone have connected an Ipod and use it? I have an ipod touch, and isn't working in Debian Lenny 5.0, any ideas? |
| 17:49.22 | LuciusMare | no change, still unconsistent,even after restarting kde, and setting to use same theme as in kde |
| 17:49.27 | n-iCe | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:49.31 | n-iCe | lsusb: Bus 007 Device 005: ID 05ac:1291 Apple, Inc. |
| 17:49.35 | LuciusMare | (not mentioning unlocalized gtk apps) |
| 17:49.57 | jair | ctp: where are you coming from? |
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| 17:50.31 | jair | I am currently in the Chicago area, but I am trying to move to the west. =) been here for 7 years already |
| 17:50.31 | ctp | jair: northern germany |
| 17:51.21 | jair | ctp: very nice. wie get? wellkommen? |
| 17:51.22 | jair | LOL |
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| 17:51.41 | ctp | jair: we're looking for something in 60640 |
| 17:52.16 | jair | ctp: I see so you guys will be using debian on all your servers and desktops? |
| 17:52.18 | ctp | jair: it seems we'll resettle within the next view weeks ;-) |
| 17:52.36 | jair | ctp: what do you guys actually do? |
| 17:52.51 | themill | points towards #debian-offtopic |
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| 17:53.27 | MonsterMagnet | Anyone got experience compiling raw 32-bit on 64-bit debian? |
| 17:53.34 | ctp | themill: you'Re right. jair, i'll query you |
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| 17:53.58 | jair | sorry guys |
| 17:54.17 | eagles0513875 | any of you guys work with xen before can help me with an interesting issue |
| 17:55.15 | eshat | Hi all, i have an alsa problem, when connecting a webcam (with mic) at boot time the intern sound card gets second device, i.e. /dev/dsp1 instead of /dev/dsp. Is there a way to switch the order ? |
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| 17:57.57 | jair | eagles0513875: what is the issue with Xen? |
| 17:58.18 | eagles0513875 | jair: im using the following command to create a new imaged based vm but i keep getting this error |
| 17:58.18 | jair | eagles0513875: also can you tell me the version you are running? I am assuming you are running it on debian |
| 17:58.28 | eagles0513875 | debian lenny 64bit for starters |
| 17:58.32 | jair | ok |
| 17:58.38 | simonrvn | eshat: load the internal device's driver first |
| 17:58.44 | eagles0513875 | jair |
| 17:58.45 | eagles0513875 | Use of uninitialized value in string ne at /usr/bin/xen-create-image line 2197. |
| 17:58.45 | eagles0513875 | Use of uninitialized value in sprintf at /usr/bin/xen-create-image line 2197. |
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| 17:58.54 | eagles0513875 | sry bout then |
| 17:58.58 | simonrvn | ... |
| 17:59.05 | eshat | simonrvn: how to do that ? |
| 17:59.08 | eagles0513875 | Error: No recognised installation type. |
| 17:59.15 | eagles0513875 | then i get the above jair |
| 17:59.31 | eagles0513875 | im using the 2.6.26-2 xen kernel |
| 17:59.35 | simonrvn | /etc/modules |
| 17:59.59 | eshat | simonrvn: it's empty |
| 18:00.24 | simonrvn | so? internal first then usb-audio |
| 18:00.42 | simonrvn | snd-usb-audio is the likely driver for the cam |
| 18:00.49 | eshat | simonrvn: is /etc/modules override the kernel settings ? |
| 18:00.56 | eshat | is=does |
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| 18:01.54 | eagles0513875 | any idea jair |
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| 18:02.53 | simonrvn | eshat: which settings? |
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| 18:07.30 | jair | eagles0513875: I am checking the error, but I do not have my xen environment set up to tell you for sure. |
| 18:07.39 | eagles0513875 | :/ ok |
| 18:07.55 | eagles0513875 | what doesnt make sense is i modified that command which i used to generate the first guest |
| 18:08.00 | jair | eagles0513875: you installed xen from the lenny stable 5.0.3 correct? x86_64 |
| 18:08.01 | eagles0513875 | to new name and ip |
| 18:08.10 | eagles0513875 | yes |
| 18:08.14 | eagles0513875 | i have one guest already setup |
| 18:08.25 | eagles0513875 | i have changed the command with the appropriate name and ip for the 2nd guest |
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| 18:10.35 | jair | eagles0513875: You will need to check at something like this:http://howtoforge.com/virtualization-with-xen-on-debian-lenny-amd64 |
| 18:10.48 | jair | eagles0513875: that may give you an idea |
| 18:11.22 | eagles0513875 | ok thanks jair |
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| 18:14.40 | jair | eagles0513875: you are welcome |
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| 18:18.32 | enyawix | hello will someone please test the package "festival" |
| 18:18.57 | enyawix | is ok for a test echo "hello" > festival --tts |
| 18:19.11 | enyawix | i think the package is broken |
| 18:19.47 | planet8 | I have manually compiled and installed a third party Ethernet driver (r8101), but the old one (r8169) keeps loading upon boot. How do I remove the r8169 module permanently? |
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| 18:24.44 | cheako | Hello, gnome-screenshot is part of the gnome-utils pkg(installed) where is the UI? Didn't it used to live under System? |
| 18:24.51 | simonrvn | could try rm'ing it, or better blacklisting it |
| 18:24.56 | simonrvn | planet8: ^^^ |
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| 18:25.29 | planet8 | I did, but it keep showing up |
| 18:27.40 | enyawix | is festival broken? |
| 18:28.18 | abrotman | enyawix: doubtful |
| 18:28.56 | abrotman | http://www.cstr.ed.ac.uk/projects/festival/manual/festival_7.html#SEC19 |
| 18:29.04 | enyawix | it will not work. it worked fine on last distro |
| 18:29.21 | eagles0513875 | jair: this is what i used to create the vm and now its not working xen-create-image --hostname=xen1.example.com --size=4Gb --swap=256Mb --ip=192.168.0.101 --memory=128Mb --arch=amd64 --role=udev |
| 18:29.40 | enyawix | echo "hello" > festival --tts should have the computer say hello |
| 18:29.56 | enyawix | my syntax is correct |
| 18:31.19 | eagles0513875 | enyawix: im thinking of doing something with that and my thesis next yr integrating it with AI and having it perform actions on the computer just by voice just like in star trek |
| 18:34.57 | themill | enyawix: that syntax should create a file called "festival", actually. |
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| 18:35.09 | abrotman | enyawix: you want a | probably |
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| 18:37.23 | enyawix | abrotman i just want a second test on different computer |
| 18:37.39 | abrotman | enyawix: echo "test" | festival --tts .. the > doesn't do what you want it to |
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| 18:38.17 | enyawix | can't open /dev/dsp |
| 18:38.25 | enyawix | > was typo |
| 18:38.27 | abrotman | that's a much more useful error .. don't you think ? |
| 18:38.32 | themill | !list alsa users |
| 18:38.33 | dpkg | To see what processes are using (and perhaps blocking) your sound device: ps `lsof +D /dev -F rt | awk '/^p/ {pid=$1} /^t/ {type=$1} /^r0x74..$/ && type == "tCHR" {print pid} /^r0xe..$/ && type == "tCHR" {print pid}' | cut -c 2- | uniq`. Alternatively, fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp /dev/mixer |
| 18:38.51 | themill | suspects that there's probably more to the error than that |
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| 18:51.20 | alphanet | hi, stupid question: how can I get source code for a previous version of a package, when it is no longer in the mirror (my goal: do a diff of asterisk_1.2.13~dfsg-etch3 to asterisk_1.2.13~dfsg-2etch4 |
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| 18:55.15 | Mxyzpltk | I'm trying to install netbeans and/or eclipse in a squeeze I just upgraded from lenny, but I have no install candidates, while in my coworker's squeeze he does have, even after a fresh apt-get update... did something went wrong with the upgrade? |
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| 18:55.36 | abrotman | Mxyzpltk: i think they've both been temporarily removed |
| 18:55.56 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=netbeans |
| 18:55.57 | abrotman | or not |
| 18:56.04 | abrotman | Mxyzpltk: do you have the contrib/non-free sources enabled ? |
| 18:56.14 | Mxyzpltk | yes, main contrib and non-free |
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| 18:56.28 | abrotman | Mxyzpltk: aptitude update && aptitude search netbeans .. any results ? |
| 18:56.29 | Mxyzpltk | same sources file as my coworkers, same mirror |
| 18:56.43 | Mxyzpltk | yes, same results, no candidate |
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| 18:58.38 | abrotman | Mxyzpltk: put your sources.list in a pastebin |
| 18:58.46 | Mxyzpltk | ok |
| 18:59.56 | Mxyzpltk | http://pastebin.com/m4409b8b5 |
| 19:00.55 | Mxyzpltk | I see there's no non-free on the security deb, could that be my problem? |
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| 19:01.27 | Mxyzpltk | nope, same result |
| 19:01.35 | abrotman | Mxyzpltk: ftp.us.debian.org is a round-robin |
| 19:01.59 | Mxyzpltk | oh, so I might be using a broken mirror then... |
| 19:02.10 | abrotman | possibly .. try one near you |
| 19:02.35 | Mxyzpltk | is there a way to find out wich ip it used to grab the sources, so I can check and report if needed? |
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| 19:11.32 | Mxyzpltk | abrotman: just tried my local's mirrors.ucr.ac.cr and indiana.edu as mirrors, with the same results, am I just lucky enough to find two broken ones? was the temporary remove of those packages recent? |
| 19:11.49 | Mxyzpltk | I don't mind waiting 'till tomorrow if I have to... |
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| 19:12.17 | guille_ | hi |
| 19:12.22 | jaggz | does anyone here use samba without a wins server and .. just map drives using \\ip\share? I can't get it to work in Win7 although I've had XP working this way for years |
| 19:13.29 | abrotman | Mxyzpltk: let me try mine here |
| 19:13.34 | Mxyzpltk | thanks... |
| 19:14.41 | abrotman | Mxyzpltk: not showing here either |
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| 19:14.55 | abrotman | Mxyzpltk: wait .. this one doesn't have contrib/non-free |
| 19:16.59 | abrotman | dpkg: why is netbeans-ide not in testing |
| 19:16.59 | dpkg | netbeans-ide is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=netbeans-ide |
| 19:17.34 | abrotman | Mxyzpltk: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=543907 .. doesn't look promising |
| 19:18.12 | Mxyzpltk | ok, so is not in testing.. will try to install manually then, thanks a lot for your time |
| 19:18.50 | abrotman | Mxyzpltk: or try to get it from unstable .. seems pretty well self-contained |
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| 19:28.21 | orudie | i just downloaded a program and its a .run file, not sure what to do with it :) |
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| 19:31.16 | abrotman | orudie: and that program would be ? |
| 19:31.31 | orudie | abrotman, teamspeak server |
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| 19:31.48 | cyberwalk[rj-br] | Hi guys.... i have the SQUID3 installed, but i cant connect the Windows Live Messenger from my private network. Can anyone know what is the problem? |
| 19:32.02 | abrotman | orudie: i'm sure their website has installation instructions |
| 19:32.26 | orudie | abrotman, no |
| 19:32.38 | silidan | hi, one of my apps installed in /usr/local ... but i cant simply type the command to run the app i need to say /usr/local/app to run it... how can i make debian recon my stuff in local as installed apps? |
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| 19:35.02 | abrotman | orudie: then i probably wouldn't install it (personally) |
| 19:35.04 | silidan | or should i just make a symboling link to all my executables in /usr/bin ? |
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| 19:35.55 | abrotman | orudie: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=howto+install+teamspeak+debian&aq=f&aql=&aqi=&oq= |
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| 19:36.34 | klusias | i got debian3.1, and made some apt-get updates...after restart it gives me segmentation faults (even on "ls")..is any way to recover it? |
| 19:36.46 | abrotman | you have sarge ? |
| 19:36.49 | orudie | abrotman, oh, thank you so much for that link , it is so helpful. without you I wouldn't be able to do that. |
| 19:36.50 | abrotman | sounds hosed/cracked |
| 19:37.24 | orudie | abrotman, they just came up with an update to their beta and their isntall instructions do not correspond to the older releases |
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| 19:37.33 | orudie | abrotman, they used to be .bz2 archives |
| 19:37.46 | orudie | abrotman, their installation section haven't been updated yet |
| 19:38.08 | silidan | when i add /usr/local/myapp to the PATH variable will it also automatically include /usr/local/myapp/whatever ? |
| 19:38.10 | orudie | abrotman, so please, don't be sending me these google search results okay ? i'm not an idiot |
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| 19:42.50 | abrotman | orudie: okay, but it's also not in debian .. ask them how to install their stuff |
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| 19:43.47 | jrib | silidan: no |
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| 19:46.55 | shingouz | teamspeak... makes me wonder what is so good about proprietary VoIP when there are things like SIP... |
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| 19:54.46 | gusto | what was up yesterday? |
| 19:55.24 | gusto | I was everytime landing on #debian-overflow |
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| 19:55.55 | abrotman | you weren't registered ? |
| 19:56.00 | gusto | ??? |
| 19:56.06 | gusto | of course I am registred |
| 19:56.16 | abrotman | and you were IDed to nickserv ? |
| 19:56.24 | gusto | yes |
| 19:56.30 | abrotman | no idea |
| 19:56.40 | gusto | otherwise I wouldnt come to ##freebsd |
| 19:56.43 | gusto | either |
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| 20:08.58 | newsense | how can i tell where my ram is going, if i run rtorrent my memory gets eaten up and when i kill it i'm left little free memory |
| 20:09.07 | newsense | i'm calling it memory monsters |
| 20:10.58 | grul | !free |
| 20:10.58 | dpkg | i guess free is defined in English with many different meanings of which only one refers to cost. Easier in French, or 'free beer' = gratuit / 'free speech' = libre, or http://www.debian.org/intro/free, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html, or free (procps) tells you how much memory is used/wasted ("Mem:") and how much is being necessarily used/could be freed ("-/+ buffers/cache:"), see also <free ram>. |
| 20:11.11 | grul | !free ram |
| 20:11.11 | dpkg | Unlike information, your computer's memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux tries to use free physical memory for caching files from disk which speeds up disk access considerably. Linux releases RAM from these caches if programs need it. If you want to know how much physical memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use, it's 'free' + 'buffers' + 'cache'. Also ask me about <swapwake>. |
| 20:11.11 | jhutchins_lt2 | newsense: I would say rtorrent isn't releasing it's RAM, possibly because it's not actually shutting down. If all you're looking at is the desktop, you won't know what's happening. Try tools like top and ps in the console to see what's happening. |
| 20:11.41 | newsense | yeah i tried top and seen nothing odd and i used ps to verify it did exit |
| 20:13.15 | newsense | i got 1448mb free now but i will be lift with like 100mb if i run it than exit |
| 20:13.36 | newsense | runs it to see what happens |
| 20:13.49 | abrotman | newsense: free -m .. look at the buffers/cache |
| 20:13.54 | jhutchins_lt2 | newsense: Try some of top's options, by default it lists by CPU use. As per above, linux does not like free RAM. |
| 20:13.57 | abrotman | !tell newsense about am i swapping |
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| 20:14.35 | newsense | dam it ate it all but 39mb haha |
| 20:14.48 | newsense | abrotman: i got 3 gigs of active swap |
| 20:14.58 | newsense | err 2gigs |
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| 20:17.03 | Jckf | When using the netinst CD, which packages are installed when selecting "Standard system" at Software selection? |
| 20:17.54 | alphanet | newsense: vmstat 5 (ignore the first line) will tell you every 5 seconds things about your system's activity, notably the swap activity. If you don't have any so/si activity (or very little), your system is OK. If it starts to page a lot, you may have a problem to investigate further. |
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| 20:18.46 | alphanet | newsense: having USED swap is not a problem in itself, as long as there is not much swap/page I/O |
| 20:18.56 | newsense | thanks abrotman alphanet jhutchins_lt2 |
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| 20:19.21 | alphanet | newsense: (again, everything which gets paged/swaped out and never back in frees precious RAM which can be used for caching) |
| 20:19.23 | newsense | i see no change in the so line |
| 20:19.46 | alphanet | newsense: would you like an example? |
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| 20:19.55 | newsense | alphanet: yes |
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| 20:20.18 | newsense | well according to frr i am using 67mb of swap |
| 20:20.18 | mancha | hi. where on the ftp site are the security-pached things? "lenny (security)" ? |
| 20:20.28 | alphanet | newsense: let's do that in private |
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| 20:22.30 | Azrael_- | if i type "cd /etc/" and press tab twice i also get all files. how can i change to get only the folders? |
| 20:23.41 | cirwin | sudo aptitude install bash-completion ? |
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| 20:24.46 | kingsley | Can you add a swap file while a swap partition is already in use? If so, how? |
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| 20:25.10 | mancha | never mind folks, found it. |
| 20:25.49 | alphanet | kingsley: swapon /dev/sdaX or swapon /swap/file |
| 20:26.18 | alphanet | kingsley: you can have as many swap partitions or files you want |
| 20:26.27 | alphanet | kingsley: you can assign priorities to them if required |
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| 20:26.48 | afurlan | I'm having trouble to boot up a Debian installation into KVM hypervisor using VirtIO |
| 20:27.15 | afurlan | It seems debian (after isntalled) doesn't recognize the /dev/vda device |
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| 20:28.05 | afurlan | Does anyone know how to solve it? |
| 20:28.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | do you have a "is my ip used" factoid, too? |
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| 20:31.22 | Azrael_- | cire: already installed |
| 20:32.38 | cirwin | Azrael_-: I've no idea then (unless you haven't restarted bash since it was installed) |
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| 20:33.36 | Azrael_- | damn |
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| 20:35.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | Azrael_-, is bash-completion installed? |
| 20:36.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh... |
| 20:36.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | didn't see the answer |
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| 20:37.00 | drasko | HI all. How to check if my system is 64bit or 32 bit? |
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| 20:37.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, /etc/bash_completion definitely has a whole paragraph on 'cd' |
| 20:37.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | _cd, actually |
| 20:37.44 | alphanet | drasko: you can check if your kernel is 32 or 64 bit with: uname -p |
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| 20:37.45 | abrotman_ | drasko: dpkg-architecture |
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| 20:38.11 | alphanet | drasko: you can have a 32 bit userland on top of a 64 bit kernel, though |
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| 20:38.31 | alphanet | drasko: you can check if your kernel is 32 or 64 bit with: uname -m (sorry) |
| 20:38.35 | drasko | uname -p gives: unknown |
| 20:38.43 | abrotman | drasko: dpkg-architecture |
| 20:38.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | Guest74204?!?! |
| 20:38.49 | abrotman | he'll go away in a minute |
| 20:39.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | or... dpkg --print-architecture |
| 20:39.12 | drasko | DEB_HOST_GNU_CPU=i486 -- what is this? |
| 20:39.15 | alphanet | drasko: now, abrotman is right, because even if you have a 64 bit kernel you could have a 32 bit userland |
| 20:39.15 | abrotman | i386 |
| 20:39.44 | drasko | DEB_BUILD_ARCH=i386 -- is this 32 or 64? |
| 20:40.00 | alphanet | drasko: 32 userland |
| 20:40.15 | drasko | uname -m gives i686 |
| 20:40.20 | drasko | what does that mean? |
| 20:40.21 | alphanet | drasko: 32 kernel |
| 20:40.37 | alphanet | drasko: i386/i486/i686 == 32 bit processor |
| 20:40.47 | alphanet | drasko: x86_64, amd64 == 64 bit processor |
| 20:41.02 | drasko | alphanet, and how to check processor? |
| 20:41.10 | drasko | does it support 64? |
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| 20:41.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | ha, not true - many people run the 32 bit system on an amd64 |
| 20:41.37 | alphanet | CutMeOwnThroat: yes, you can run 32 bit userland on top of 64 or 32 bit kernel |
| 20:41.55 | jair | ctp: I sent you an email =) good luck with everything. |
| 20:41.59 | alphanet | drasko: I would look at /proc/cpuinfo |
| 20:42.19 | alphanet | drasko: or just boot with a lenny netinstall amd64 |
| 20:42.27 | ctp | jair: oh, cool. thx ;-) |
| 20:42.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell drasko -about what's my hardware |
| 20:43.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | (to stall the next 3 questions) :) |
| 20:43.16 | alphanet | CutMeOwnThroat: :) |
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| 20:44.33 | drasko | I used: grep flags /proc/cpuinfo. lm in the output should stand for "long mode", i.e. 64 |
| 20:44.37 | ctp | jair: hm, which mail address did you take? no mail here :-( |
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| 20:45.02 | blubbi_ | hi all, is there a way to find out to wich repository a package belongs? |
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| 20:45.44 | harovali | hi , sorry for the nuisance, I'm updating a woody, but the repositories in /etc/apt/sources.list are failing to be contacted. How can I get apt-get back running ? |
| 20:45.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course... he could have just looked at the model name... |
| 20:45.59 | blubbi | apt-cache show python-mechanize does not show the repo it belongs to |
| 20:46.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | !woody sources.list |
| 20:46.33 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, woody sources.list is "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free" and "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-security woody/updates main contrib non-free" and "deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free" |
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| 20:47.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | blubbi, no, there is not, but there is e.g. apt-show-versions |
| 20:47.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | which helps you to find out |
| 20:47.46 | blubbi | CutMeOwnThroat: okay, I'll try it |
| 20:47.49 | alphanet | what would be the best way to get back a source package which is no longer on repositories, because it was replaced by a later version? |
| 20:47.59 | alphanet | (or just to see the source differences) |
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| 20:49.30 | dashs | since 8am and lenny libc6 update -- I'm getting errors from NIS looking for passwd.adjunct.byname (dont have it) |
| 20:50.11 | dashs | iz there something I can do with nsswitch.conf? |
| 20:51.05 | harovali | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks ! you're a genius, now it works ! |
| 20:51.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | I am?! And I didn't even say anything! |
| 20:51.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell alphanet -about archives |
| 20:52.05 | _santa | Hello. 2.6.32.4 kernel cannot find the root partition. I use /dev/hda2. It prints Waiting for root partition and stops .. If to state /dev/sda2 as root partition then kernel mounts root fs ok but fsck error occurs. |
| 20:52.08 | dashs | CutMeOwnThroat: surest sign of genius |
| 20:52.15 | _santa | In fstab root partition is /dev/hda2 |
| 20:52.19 | h3xis | i have sun-jdk6-jdk installed and i'm wanting to install eclipse from sid, however it wants to install openjdk and i don't want it. is there a way around this? |
| 20:52.24 | _santa | Anyone knows what's the reason? |
| 20:52.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | dashs, ah, they say "had you kept silent, you would have been seen as a wise man..." |
| 20:53.29 | harovali | _santa: are you sure it is hd and not sd ? |
| 20:53.35 | alphanet | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks, I got it |
| 20:53.50 | abrotman | _santa: use the debian kernel |
| 20:55.00 | _santa | harovali: Yes. Coz previous debian kernel uses root partition as /dev/hda2 and it was determined by the install program. Not I compiled a new vanilla, and such problems occur with the root partition |
| 20:55.15 | abrotman | _santa: what's wrong with the kernel debian provides ? |
| 20:55.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's older than 3 days |
| 20:55.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | can't impress the girls with it |
| 20:55.47 | mallxs | ok i can play /vmlinux on /dev/dsp but icewezel does not play a sound and juicer complains about not changing the state of gstreamer ... where should i look first ? |
| 20:55.57 | Azrael_- | runs 2.6.31.9 |
| 20:56.08 | _santa | abrotman: Nothing wrong. I want to learn a kernel compiling and setup process :) That's why I tried trying compile a new kernel. Compilation went ok, initrd also, but booting... |
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| 20:56.50 | _santa | abrotman: I am not good at linux and want to learn it. I hope this is not bad |
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| 21:00.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | can one be "good at linux"? Sounds a bit like "good at martial arts" or so... |
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| 21:01.03 | AimHere | Can you be 'evil at linux'? |
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| 21:01.24 | AimHere | I suppose the SCO group is evil at Linux, so maybe he's not quite the opposite of that |
| 21:01.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | but... is some who's "not good at linux" evil at linux? |
| 21:02.24 | h3xis | grammar nazi here. it's "____ with linux" not at |
| 21:02.44 | abrotman | says the guy that didn't capitalize or punctuate |
| 21:02.52 | h3xis | :armscross: |
| 21:03.00 | jelly-home | !penixstrike |
| 21:03.01 | dpkg | Dozens of Penices shower from the heavens, pummelling the inhabitants of #debian, leaving half-conscious debian users and wet spots everywhere. |
| 21:03.12 | prince_jammys | ended a sentence in a preposition!!! :) |
| 21:03.34 | h3xis | you can end a sentence with a preposition |
| 21:03.37 | h3xis | it's a myth that you cant |
| 21:03.54 | AimHere | You could end it if you quoted the preposition though. |
| 21:04.00 | AimHere | You forgot to put 'at' in quotes there. |
| 21:04.05 | abrotman | and missed an apostrophe! |
| 21:04.19 | AimHere | And didn't start your sentences with capital letters. |
| 21:04.24 | AimHere | You're a rubbish grammar nazi. |
| 21:04.27 | h3xis | no, i didn't need an apostrophe |
| 21:04.30 | h3xis | i needed a comma |
| 21:04.40 | abrotman | cant ? |
| 21:04.43 | AimHere | You need a bunch of full stops too. |
| 21:04.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps this disuse of English grammar sent him into a coma :) |
| 21:04.56 | alphanet | I am afraid I wouldn't know how to finish a sentence with a preposition: I don't have any example that I could think of. |
| 21:05.22 | prince_jammys | hehe |
| 21:06.10 | jelly-home | alphanet: oh, piss off! |
| 21:06.17 | _santa | So what about my problem? Can anybody suggest the solution how to make kernel "see" root partition? |
| 21:07.00 | h3xis | _santa: is your menu.lst/grub.cfg right? |
| 21:07.00 | abrotman | that's part of learning! |
| 21:07.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually... as it's a preposition, I don't see how you could end a sentence with it :) |
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| 21:07.16 | alphanet | jelly-home: probably difficult through the penis shower |
| 21:07.51 | AimHere | So you compiled a custom kernel and it can't find your hard drives? |
| 21:07.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's got to be something to be in front of! |
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| 21:08.31 | _santa | h3xis: I use grub 1. this command string kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.32.4 root=/dev/hda2 ro. fstab also tells that /dev/hda2 is / partition |
| 21:08.35 | exes | why wouldn't my debian system run the pre-up commands in /etc/network/interface when the box comes up? |
| 21:08.37 | AimHere | _santa, did you compile your motherboard's hard drive chipset drivers into the kernel or as modules? |
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| 21:09.02 | _santa | AimHere: not custom. With default configuration, nothing was changed there. |
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| 21:09.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | exes, because it doesn't bring the interface up? |
| 21:09.32 | _santa | AimHere: I believe it is a generic one if no changes were made in menuconfig |
| 21:09.58 | alphanet | CutMeOwnThroat: :) |
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| 21:11.12 | _santa | h3xis: menu.lst is right, I have written it using the example of preinstalled menu.lst of Debian. Added one more record with another kernel version only |
| 21:13.05 | exes | CutMeOwnThroat: it's a tun interface, I have auto tun0 before the iface line |
| 21:13.20 | exes | auto tun0 |
| 21:13.23 | exes | iface tun0 inet static pre-up blah blah |
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| 21:13.34 | exes | pre-up on it's own line of course |
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| 21:14.01 | jhutchins_lt2 | _santa: Did you use a pre-existing .config, or none at all |
| 21:14.41 | _santa | jhutchins_lt2: None at all. I run make menuconfig, then saved .config file from default settings it had supplied and compiled kernel |
| 21:15.06 | alphanet | good night :=) |
| 21:16.29 | _santa | jhutchins_lt2: I was not quite sure what to change in menuconfig settings and left the default ones |
| 21:17.41 | jhutchins_lt | _santa: That's really a great way to do it, but unfortunately you've found the pitfall - you didn't knwo what to change. How about comparing your .config with the standard Debian one for the same version kernel, just to see what they did differently? |
| 21:17.52 | jhutchins_lt | _santa: I think Debian also applies patches to the kernel. |
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| 21:20.14 | abrotman | should probably ask ##kernel |
| 21:20.24 | _santa | jhutchins_lt: Can i find it in kernel sources? I didn't install them actually, but i can do it from the setup disk |
| 21:22.26 | jhutchins_lt | _santa: look in boot - mine has config-2.6.26-2-686 - that's the .config by which the packaged kernel was compiled (handy, no?). |
| 21:24.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | exes, and /dev/net/tun exists and is a working device? |
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| 21:27.44 | exes | CutMeOwnThroat: yeah, it works if I do ifup tun0 |
| 21:29.39 | exes | I'll hack on it some more and see if I can't look in the logs |
| 21:29.52 | exes | the pre-up command sets an environment variable and executes autossh |
| 21:30.06 | exes | then sleeps for 10 seconds |
| 21:30.11 | exes | second pre-up for that |
| 21:30.20 | exes | it's a point to point over SSH |
| 21:30.28 | exes | works great, just doesn't come up when the box does |
| 21:30.44 | cheako | For a VM disk image distributed as an application how would some one interject an applications, like Debian's, to configure initial passwords? |
| 21:31.20 | cheako | Ohh, wait is it just a SystemV init script? |
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| 21:38.37 | fas3r | how can i pass args with php-cli ( php -f) like this : www.exemple.com/index.php?id=x&title=y.... ? |
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| 21:42.20 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 21:42.26 | _santa | Hi |
| 21:42.39 | cheako | When was support for UUID mounts and bootparams added? At what point would I be able to declare any tool chain that does not have support for this is sadly deficient and out of date? |
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| 21:46.50 | nullp0inter | i am trying to dual boot windows 7 and debian...i cant get gparted to boot though..anyone know what to do? ive already checked the boot order and its fine |
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| 21:48.59 | hochron | did libc6 just come out? |
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| 21:49.59 | squisher | Hi, does anyone here know about linux compatibility of the Dell Zino HD? I tried searching for reviews, but either there are none or google fails miserably |
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| 21:51.15 | mallxs | now i can get sound from totem-gstreamer but nothing from iceweasel or juicer so what i'm i missing ? |
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| 21:52.33 | Neozonz | I've just logged into a box and tried to apt-get install git-core , but the weird part is i have a bunch of unmet dependencies, and some include openoffice |
| 21:52.42 | Neozonz | any ideas? :O |
| 21:53.31 | squisher | Neozonz, previous install attempts? |
| 21:53.45 | squisher | I'm pretty certain git-core doesn't depend on OOo :-D |
| 21:54.14 | Neozonz | yeah same.. |
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| 21:56.38 | nullp0inter | anyone know why gparted wont boot for me? |
| 21:56.45 | nullp0inter | i really need debian on this thing asap |
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| 21:57.19 | n0ah | hey does anyone know how to limit total memory usage for a user |
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| 21:59.50 | _santa | n0ah: sysctl ? |
| 22:00.41 | n0ah | _santa: what would it be called under sysctl? |
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| 22:00.55 | n0ah | i'm suprised limits.conf doesn't have that option |
| 22:01.29 | n0ah | i havn't used linux in years and i remember i was trying to do this years ago |
| 22:01.33 | n0ah | sysctl that guy is a lunatic |
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| 22:02.08 | n0ah | it seems operating systems just don't have adequate features, the only reason i'm using linux is because it has ionice, and i can't find another operating system that has io scheduling |
| 22:02.12 | n0ah | and that's just ludacris |
| 22:02.22 | sorressean | can I make adduser run an external script after it's done it's job and added the user? |
| 22:02.28 | n0ah | what good is a system if you can't specify what processes have superiour access to an hd, perhaps |
| 22:02.39 | alcohol | how come 'man something' defaults to using more as a reader? |
| 22:02.44 | alcohol | what is the normal reader? |
| 22:02.51 | alcohol | I don't recall this being more |
| 22:02.57 | n0ah | less? |
| 22:03.07 | alcohol | hrm |
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| 22:03.18 | alcohol | can either use pageup pagedown? |
| 22:03.29 | n0ah | yea |
| 22:03.36 | alcohol | doesnt seem to work for me |
| 22:03.37 | Neozonz | I don't get it! |
| 22:03.38 | Neozonz | >_< |
| 22:03.42 | alcohol | must be this lame ibook keyboard |
| 22:03.55 | n0ah | try with less, less a big file and try it |
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| 22:04.16 | SiC | anyone had any experience with getting dell colour lasers working with cups? |
| 22:04.22 | alcohol | less not found |
| 22:04.23 | alcohol | =D |
| 22:04.26 | SiC | before this one is thrown out of the window |
| 22:04.28 | n0ah | alcohol: install it |
| 22:04.32 | n0ah | i've never seen a linux system without less |
| 22:04.34 | alcohol | crap I think I skipped the base install |
| 22:04.42 | n0ah | more came first but less has been the standard since for years |
| 22:04.54 | sorressean | lies. you want more, not less! |
| 22:04.57 | sorressean | bad logic |
| 22:05.02 | sorressean | grins |
| 22:05.05 | n0ah | lol |
| 22:05.40 | alcohol | less does work |
| 22:05.53 | alcohol | splendid |
| 22:05.54 | pistache | more too |
| 22:05.54 | n0ah | my problem is that operating systems don't have ways for io scheduling (albeit linux does, bsd and solaris don't) |
| 22:06.03 | n0ah | to set memory use per user?! |
| 22:06.09 | n0ah | aren't these simple requirements of an operating system? |
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| 22:07.13 | macrobat | a minimal debian comes without less |
| 22:07.46 | jhutchins_lt | alcohol: cat + Ctrl-PageUp |
| 22:08.18 | jhutchins_lt | n0ah: No. |
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| 22:09.00 | n0ah | in a multi tasked or multi user environemnt, multi user any user can just gobble up all the system's memory and multi processed an out of control process can? or something one wouldn't like to? |
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| 22:09.02 | Neozonz | When you first install debian, you select desktop, server ect at a dialog box |
| 22:09.06 | Neozonz | where does it write the configs to? |
| 22:09.09 | macrobat | shift + pgup works on the terminal emulator |
| 22:09.18 | abrotman | Neozonz: configs for .. what ? |
| 22:09.19 | n0ah | jhutchins_lt: ? |
| 22:09.23 | macrobat | i never choose "desktop" |
| 22:09.28 | abrotman | Neozonz: those are debconf questions .. do you want to change one ? |
| 22:09.30 | n0ah | that is normal? |
| 22:09.42 | jhutchins_lt | n0ah: No, those aren't simple requirements of an operating system. |
| 22:10.15 | n0ah | hmm wow sounds like a security hazard |
| 22:10.22 | n0ah | at the least |
| 22:11.36 | jhutchins_lt | n0ah: You're picturing a fairly specific application/environment, and these things are usually addressed in some way, sometimes other than within the OS. (We are off topic btw, and shouldn't continue here.) |
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| 22:11.56 | n0ah | a specific environment? i'm clearly depicting any system with a user and process on it! |
| 22:12.05 | n0ah | off topic for a linux channel?! |
| 22:12.07 | n0ah | wow you're a tool |
| 22:12.09 | n0ah | heh |
| 22:12.53 | Neozonz | abrotman, yeah maybe- for some reason when I apt-get install git-core (it tries to install open office as a dependency and it i think it may have something to do with the profile that the person who picked when debian was installing) |
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| 22:13.20 | Neozonz | ie desktop, installs all gui software, ect |
| 22:13.34 | Neozonz | but then again what the hell do i know |
| 22:13.37 | abrotman | Neozonz: that'sn ot why |
| 22:13.39 | Neozonz | I'm new to debian :P |
| 22:13.43 | Neozonz | alright then |
| 22:13.44 | Neozonz | lol |
| 22:13.51 | jhutchins_lt | Neozonz: So it's attempting to complete other installs? |
| 22:14.22 | Neozonz | it's attempting to install openoffice and a bunch of other installs, and says they are dependencies of git... |
| 22:14.30 | jhutchins_lt | Neozonz: Possibly you could use dselect or aptitude to un-select the other stuff. |
| 22:15.33 | jhutchins_lt | Neozonz: There have been known to be some "dependencies" that shouldn't have been, if you're certain this is what's happening you could track it down and bugreport it. |
| 22:16.33 | WiNkY | winky am not can find my squirrel |
| 22:16.37 | WiNkY | am you seen my squirrel |
| 22:16.41 | WiNkY | is 10 foot |
| 22:16.43 | WiNkY | chain back house |
| 22:16.48 | WiNkY | feed big nuts |
| 22:16.51 | WiNkY | IS MISSING!!!! |
| 22:16.57 | WiNkY | blood everywhere!!! NO ON CHAIN!! |
| 22:17.00 | WiNkY | hope is ok :( |
| 22:17.38 | Neozonz | jhutchins_lt, deskbar-appet, openoffice-calc,openoffice-base, metacity are just a few examples |
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| 22:18.27 | WiNkY | please help find squirrel |
| 22:18.36 | jhutchins_lt | Neozonz: Understood, but now why git triggered them. |
| 22:18.53 | WiNkY | jhutchins_lt: am you seen my squirrel? |
| 22:19.04 | WiNkY | is name squirrely please let know if find |
| 22:19.11 | Neozonz | jhutchins_lt, everything triggers it... as far as I can see |
| 22:19.31 | WiNkY | am |
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| 22:21.27 | jhutchins_lt | Neozonz: That's what I'm saying, maybe you have a task selected, or a metapackage, something that was previously selected and is trying to complete it's installation. I would expect aptitude safe-upgrade to install this stuff too. |
| 22:21.55 | Neozonz | jhutchins_lt, how would I go about deselecting this stuff? |
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| 22:22.38 | jhutchins_lt | I am not really that familiar with apt yet, but deselect, taskselect, and aptitude all appear to have some way of doing this. |
| 22:22.56 | jhutchins_lt | dpkg -l would show you packages selected but not installed. |
| 22:22.56 | dpkg | No packages found matching would show you packages selected but not installed. |
| 22:23.06 | cipherz | hello, I just upgraded from lenny to sid and now I cant start X anymore :/ I get an error about incorrect xkeyboard-config and that it cant find /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/evdev |
| 22:24.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | welcome to the joys of sid! |
| 22:24.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... and the opportunity to find out why they call it 'bleeding edge' |
| 22:24.35 | Neozonz | jhutchins_lt, jesus christ... it's brought up a ton of packages.. what the hell |
| 22:24.44 | cipherz | I know, though I had to upgrade to get better drivers for my graphics card, and I am not whining I was just hoping someone might be able to help :) |
| 22:25.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | Neozonz, dpkg -l shows all packages... the ones with 'ii' are installed completely |
| 22:25.15 | cipherz | because I seem to remember having this problem last time I did the same stunt and it was related to evdev and some missing config file just cant remember what, my memory sucks :) |
| 22:25.50 | jhutchins_lt | Hm... There's a page in debianadmin.com that's triggering a malware warning on google. |
| 22:25.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | why didn't you just get a newer kernel and/or nvidia or whatever module, though :) |
| 22:26.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, check the bts |
| 22:26.18 | WiNkY | FUCK |
| 22:26.19 | cipherz | CutMeOwnThroat: intel gma :) |
| 22:26.20 | WiNkY | WHERE IS MY SQUIREL#*&#$()$* |
| 22:26.29 | cipherz | so I am using xserver-xorg-video-intel as my driver ;) |
| 22:26.33 | WiNkY | YOU GUYS HAVE MY FUCKING SQUIRREL |
| 22:26.36 | WiNkY | DONT YOU |
| 22:26.45 | cipherz | CutMeOwnThroat: but can you elaborate on bts please ? :) |
| 22:26.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | !btssmite cipherz |
| 22:26.52 | dpkg | beats cipherz around the head repeatedly with http://bugs.debian.org/ and apt-listbugs, along with a chainsaw if cipherz is running testing or unstable |
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| 22:27.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | no :) |
| 22:27.27 | cipherz | gah not having x makes you miss it tho :) |
| 22:27.40 | cipherz | at the very least I have fb working =) |
| 22:28.43 | Neozonz | ah i see |
| 22:28.51 | Neozonz | how do I go about showing uninstall packages? |
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| 22:30.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=551996 or http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=509455 ? |
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| 22:31.18 | Eric02 | [65306.485471] 0000:03:00.0: eth0: Detected Tx Unit Hang: |
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| 22:31.25 | Eric02 | i am getting this error every 30 minute. |
| 22:31.46 | Eric02 | i think debian is having issue with ethernet driver. |
| 22:32.00 | Eric02 | it's intel: e1000 or e1000e |
| 22:32.06 | Eric02 | is there any fix for this ? |
| 22:32.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | cipherz, well, you check through the 100 bugs http://ln-s.net/4r:O |
| 22:32.57 | Eric02 | e1000e: eth0 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: RX/TX |
| 22:32.58 | jhutchins_lt | Eric02: Install the firmware package. |
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| 22:33.09 | Eric02 | ican you guide me please. |
| 22:33.36 | Eric02 | can you guide me please* |
| 22:33.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, oh e1000 |
| 22:33.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | does it work? |
| 22:33.59 | Eric02 | it's working |
| 22:34.11 | Eric02 | but seems it goes on and off |
| 22:34.15 | Neozonz | CutMeOwnThroat, would it be safe to do dkpg --clear-selections ? |
| 22:34.16 | Eric02 | i am getting timeout |
| 22:34.22 | Eric02 | then comes online and goes off again |
| 22:34.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh well, mine wasn't... seems the e1000 driver only supported it in newer kernels, not in the one that was in lenny |
| 22:34.57 | jhutchins_lt | Neozonz: I think so. |
| 22:35.09 | Eric02 | e1000e: eth0 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: RX/TX |
| 22:35.16 | Eric02 | it think it's e1000e |
| 22:35.16 | Neozonz | jhutchins_lt, it wouldn't break any currently installed packages? |
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| 22:35.40 | Eric02 | server never had this problem when i was running windows server on it. |
| 22:35.46 | Eric02 | this is happening only with debian os. |
| 22:35.58 | jhutchins_lt | dpkg: telll Eric02 about e1000e |
| 22:36.18 | cipherz | CutMeOwnThroat: nothing in particular as far as i can see thanks tho :/ |
| 22:36.19 | jhutchins_lt | Eric02: Debian build of Linux OS. |
| 22:36.38 | cipherz | best hit I have found is some guy describing that now you need to use hal to configure your devices |
| 22:36.44 | cipherz | but lshal doesnt show my touchpad or keyboard :/ |
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| 22:37.19 | jhutchins_lt | cipherz: Just a shot in the dark while a page loads, but you could try moving (not deleting) your xorg.conf and see if it auto-configures correctly. |
| 22:37.41 | jhutchins_lt | cipherz: Do they work in console mode? |
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| 22:38.11 | addikt1ve | sorry |
| 22:38.13 | addikt1ve | but |
| 22:38.14 | addikt1ve | i just lost the game |
| 22:38.15 | cipherz | well i dont have gpm so dunno about the mouse, but the keyboard works just fine and by auto-configure you mean dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ? |
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| 22:38.17 | addikt1ve | :( |
| 22:38.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | cipherz, also... X -configure creates a new xorg.conf from scratch |
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| 22:39.30 | cipherz | same problem :/ |
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| 22:41.35 | Eric02 | jhutchins_lt: as i can see, i have to upgrade driver my ethernet port to latest one: e1000e-1.1.2 |
| 22:41.38 | Eric02 | yes ? |
| 22:42.07 | jhutchins_lt | Eric02: Possibly use a kernel from backports? |
| 22:42.30 | Eric02 | backports ? |
| 22:42.41 | Eric02 | i am sorry, i am not very good with debian configurations |
| 22:42.44 | Eric02 | never had this issue before. |
| 22:42.46 | jhutchins_lt | cipherz: I mean just move the xorg.conf file and try to start X. |
| 22:43.00 | jhutchins_lt | dpkg: tell Eric02 about backports |
| 22:43.58 | cipherz | same :/ |
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| 22:45.09 | p3rror | i've a image of a person and i need to do a search of all people that seems like this person is it possible :D |
| 22:46.31 | cirwin|afk | p3rror: talk to the police about it :) |
| 22:46.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | findimagedupes, possibly |
| 22:46.53 | zleap | right I am off to sleep |
| 22:47.02 | zleap | or watch star trek anyway, chat later guys and girls |
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| 22:47.38 | p3rror | cirwin, :D |
| 22:48.19 | jhutchins_lt | dpkg: tell cipherz about touchpad |
| 22:49.06 | cirwin | wonders if anyone knows why his gai.conf stopped working recently (running testing) |
| 22:49.15 | p3rror | CutMeOwnThroat, findimagedupes is great but i need a database of images |
| 22:49.24 | jhutchins_lt | p3rror: Possible? Yes. Facial recognition, image matching software. You'd need a database of images to search against, and a project that's WAY outside of the scope of this channel. |
| 22:50.06 | cipherz | jhutchins_lt: got it already :) my main problem is still that i seem to be lacking this seemingly important file /usr/share/xkb/rules/evdev |
| 22:50.22 | cirwin | p3rror: it's much easier if you can get the iris out of the photo, iris recognition has been pretty much solved :) |
| 22:50.41 | cipherz | and that my xkeyboard-config is incorrect :/ think its due to the switch to evdev and that it is not configured correctly, but i dunno how to fix that |
| 22:50.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | p3rror, http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hanlen/vision/facelinks.html |
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| 22:53.07 | cirwin | if I do "lsmod | grep ipv6" I get nothing, I have set the priority of ip6 to below ip4 in gai.conf, but it's still trying to connect over ip6 - which just won't work inside college network |
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| 22:55.36 | p3rror | CutMeOwnThroat, jhutchins_lt , cirwin thanks for your reply :) |
| 22:55.46 | p3rror | is there any web solution |
| 22:55.57 | cirwin | I doubt it |
| 22:56.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | www.fbi.gov |
| 22:56.46 | p3rror | :D |
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| 22:57.00 | p3rror | but i think that there are a need of such solution |
| 22:57.06 | cirwin | p3rror: sure |
| 22:57.11 | cirwin | it's just a very very hard problem to solve |
| 22:57.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | they also make great aged pictures of people using the images of spanish politicians as a scaffold |
| 22:57.15 | p3rror | why fbi did not open there db to public ;) |
| 22:57.23 | cirwin | privacy laws :p |
| 22:57.49 | cirwin | you could try social engineering, post it on wikipedia/facebook/twitter or somewhere and see if you can find anyone who knows |
| 22:57.58 | p3rror | haha |
| 22:58.10 | p3rror | nice, very nice cirwin |
| 22:58.33 | p3rror | or may be post the image to opera or such |
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| 22:58.45 | oggei | aloha |
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| 23:02.03 | Eric02 | i am stuck with e1000e issue. |
| 23:02.16 | Eric02 | how can i upgrade my ethernet driver and keep it upto date ? |
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| 23:04.50 | Eric02 | how to find out which driver version my server ethernet card is using ? |
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| 23:07.22 | Azrael_- | ethtool -i eth0 |
| 23:07.37 | Eric02 | thanks |
| 23:08.24 | Eric02 | firmware-version: 1.8-0 |
| 23:09.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | what kernel version? |
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| 23:09.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's 2.6.30 or so in backports |
| 23:09.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd! |
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| 23:10.06 | Eric02 | CutMeOwnThroat, i have added backports in sources.list |
| 23:10.11 | Eric02 | did apt-get update |
| 23:10.21 | Eric02 | any command to update ethernet driver ? |
| 23:10.38 | Eric02 | my server os is: debian lenny |
| 23:10.56 | Eric02 | driver: e1000e |
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| 23:11.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | the driver is part of the kernel |
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| 23:11.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | dunno if there's a separate one to install with m-i |
| 23:11.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | hmm, "e100" |
| 23:12.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | now, you could say it doesn't matter if a 0 is missing, because zero is essentially nothing... |
| 23:12.37 | Eric02 | :) |
| 23:12.48 | Eric02 | so package name is e100 ? |
| 23:13.01 | Eric02 | aptitude -t lenny-backports install e100 |
| 23:13.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, I'm saying this must be a different driver |
| 23:13.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | and no |
| 23:13.07 | Eric02 | ah ok |
| 23:13.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | this is what module-assistant shows me |
| 23:13.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | what does uname -a say |
| 23:14.19 | Eric02 | Linux mail20 2.6.30-2-686-bigmem #1 SMP Sat Sep 26 02:30:18 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 23:14.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh |
| 23:14.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's already the one from bpo |
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| 23:18.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | look at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=42302&atid=447449 |
| 23:18.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | if it's not freezing the machine and just producing those messages: ignore it |
| 23:18.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | except if you're looking for a new hobby |
| 23:19.19 | Eric02 | it's freezing machine for 1-2 minute |
| 23:19.22 | Eric02 | error is: Detected Tx Unit Hang |
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| 23:20.25 | Eric02 | it's happening once every 1-2 hour. |
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| 23:22.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, look through the bugs on the e1000 sourceforge site whose url I gave above... |
| 23:22.02 | Eric02 | seems latest e1000e version is having issue also. |
| 23:22.05 | Eric02 | same error... |
| 23:22.12 | Eric02 | reviewing it.... |
| 23:22.33 | albertz | hi, what dependency do I need to set for libboost-filesystem? it seems that the version number is in the package name itself (why is that?). or can I set something like libboost-filesystem* as dependency? |
| 23:23.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | dependency? |
| 23:24.45 | albertz | in debian/control, under Depends: |
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| 23:26.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | the version number is in the name when you need to be able to install several versions next to each other |
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| 23:27.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | like python2.3 python3.1 etc. |
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| 23:28.26 | albertz | well, what I mean is, apt-get install python works but apt-get install libboost_filesystem does not |
| 23:28.36 | oggei | albertz: if you're gonna making packages you'll have to study a bit |
| 23:29.34 | oggei | at least, this is how things are supposed to be, you can apt-get install maint-guide and learn everything |
| 23:29.44 | albertz | we have made this package for several years now and it always just worked. now we get boost as an additional dependency and I wonder what I would have to specify in the depends section so that it works under all debian systems (as it did earlier) |
| 23:30.48 | albertz | all deb systems means: debian 4.0 and up, ubuntu 8 and up (in this case x86) |
| 23:30.49 | oggei | so you packaged for years *despite* your knowledge |
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| 23:31.42 | albertz | well, for other packages, I specified it like this: libsdl1.2 (>= 1.2.6) |
| 23:32.23 | albertz | or just without the version number |
| 23:32.47 | albertz | but it seems that libboost also has the minor version number in the package name |
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| 23:33.21 | oggei | package name is a string, can have a numeric suffix for defining something, granularity of that is a maintainer choice |
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| 23:34.21 | oggei | eg. libsdl1.2beforesvncommit23452 (>=1.2.0), although is stupid |
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| 23:35.06 | albertz | under deb 4.0, I have a package libboost_filesystem1.33.1, under ubuntu, I have libboost_filesystem1.34.1, on debian sid, I have libboost_filesystem1.40.0 |
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| 23:35.18 | krisfremen | i'm having some problems with my audio card |
| 23:35.28 | llimeht | albertz: that's called a soname and is there to indicate ABI (and API) changes. |
| 23:35.45 | krisfremen | it's showing that it's not existing in some programs... but it worked a few days ago? |
| 23:37.00 | albertz | hm, so there is no way to link dynamically against boost_filesystem and at the same time support multiple different debian versions? |
| 23:37.13 | llimeht | albertz: /msg dpkg soname ; generally, you can build against an unversioned -dev package but have to depend on a specific version of the package. |
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| 23:37.50 | llimeht | albertz: no. The layout of the library has changed from version to version so you'd end up with a very pretty crash. |
| 23:38.19 | albertz | ok, then I guess I'll just statically link it |
| 23:38.42 | llimeht | albertz: If you're using debhelper for your packaging, then you can get it to automatically insert the dependency into the package against the correct package. |
| 23:40.02 | llimeht | albertz: static linking isn't really very polite, can chew up a lot of extra disk space and leaves the user open to security holes that have been fixed in the library but not in your statically linked program. Debian package should (almost) never be statically linked. |
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| 23:40.56 | albertz | llimeht: how would I create a debian package then which works on all debian versions? I don't have the resources to build one for every single debian/ubuntu version |
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| 23:42.09 | llimeht | albertz: how long does this thing take to compile? |
| 23:42.26 | llimeht | and is there any reason you're not trying to get it into debian properly? |
| 23:42.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | albertz, they might provide different functions and not be compatible... if it doesn't matter, you can write a depend like ... |
| 23:42.54 | llimeht | oggei: the soname is neither a maintainer choice nor stupid. It's quite well defined in C and debian policy and means that you don't have programs segfaulting all over the place when the libraries change -- apt prevents that happening for you. |
| 23:43.07 | albertz | llimeht: it's a package about 160mb, about 300k loc. on my system, compiling takes about 5minutes but all the copying around (I use debhelper to package) takes a long time |
| 23:43.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | Depends: libboost_filesystem1.33.1 | libboost_filesystem1.34.1 | other package | other package |
| 23:43.54 | albertz | llimeht: well, I tried, I also have a maintainer, but she is kind of busy :) |
| 23:44.26 | albertz | also, this is a very new beta version which I don't want to have really into the deb repository. it's only for testing |
| 23:44.30 | llimeht | albertz: so a set of cowbuilder chroots for 2 different debian releases and a couple of ubuntu releases could automatically build the .debs for 4 releases in about 30min or so. |
| 23:44.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | llimeht, "oggei"? |
| 23:44.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, there, it scrolled off |
| 23:45.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | he was talking about the package name, though |
| 23:45.37 | llimeht | CutMeOwnThroat: the soname is in the packagename, as you've just illustrated in that depends line |
| 23:46.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | what you're saying is (or want to say), that the package names contain the version number, because they contain different versions of the library, which aren't interchangeable |
| 23:47.13 | oggei | CutMeOwnThroat ? |
| 23:47.19 | llimeht | it's not strictly the version number, but yes. |
| 23:47.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | I was wondering why he talked to you... 'cause your comment was already gone and I'd also forgotten about it |
| 23:48.18 | albertz | hm, how much time does it take to setup such cowbuilder chroots? |
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| 23:49.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | if you have to have the same thing run on different systems, compile it statically |
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| 23:49.35 | albertz | and how would I create automatically the right dependencies? (in this case for libboost_filesystem, and also all the other deps I have) |
| 23:49.44 | llimeht | albertz: there's a little configuring and some package downloading and installing to do. You're basically making a base system that can run inside a chroot. |
| 23:50.06 | llimeht | albertz: the ubuntu wiki pbuilder page has a nice config file for pbuilder/cowbuilder. |
| 23:50.35 | llimeht | debhelper will put the right dependency in there for you |
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