| 00:00.01 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 00:00.01 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 00:00.14 | *** join/#debian zerge (~NagyG@dsl5402B84D.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 00:00.28 | zerge | hi all |
| 00:01.29 | *** join/#debian tabidachi (~joe@unaffiliated/tabidachi) |
| 00:02.53 | dhaivat | hello guys. All was working fine on my machine until today when I tried to install gnome. It seems there's something wrong with the non-free repos in my sources.list file. Here's my sources.list file: deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free deb-src http://archive.debian.org/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free |
| 00:02.59 | zerge | If I have an etch debian, trying to upgrade initscripts (sourcecs list is pointing to stabel which is lenny now) and it is conflicting with the old version of sysvinit. Can I replace sysvinit with the new package also without any trouble? |
| 00:03.03 | dhaivat | whoops. |
| 00:03.08 | dhaivat | That wasn't the pastebin link |
| 00:03.10 | dhaivat | sorry! |
| 00:03.20 | dhaivat | http://pastebin.com/fdd90975 |
| 00:03.23 | dhaivat | http://pastebin.com/fdd90975 |
| 00:03.37 | *** join/#debian gusto (~gusto@141.30.205.88) |
| 00:03.39 | zerge | now twice :) |
| 00:03.58 | dhaivat | sorry, again. Anyway, what could be wrong? It seems it cannot find the non-us repos. |
| 00:04.02 | dhaivat | Any help? |
| 00:04.59 | dhaivat | anyone? |
| 00:05.05 | *** join/#debian tuliohm (~tulio@unaffiliated/tuliohm) |
| 00:06.29 | zerge | sorry dhaivat I cannot help with that one :( |
| 00:06.41 | zerge | I would if I knew :) |
| 00:06.50 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 00:07.01 | jelly-home | dhaivat: there are no non-us repos any more. |
| 00:07.28 | *** join/#debian Mr_Deffy (~Deffy@24-183-188-133.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) |
| 00:07.35 | jelly-home | dhaivat: which release of debian are you supposed tobe running? |
| 00:08.08 | dhaivat | how can I tell? |
| 00:08.13 | *** join/#debian kabniel (~jonas@90-230-208-111-no77.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 00:08.15 | jelly-home | ddbolton: don't |
| 00:08.26 | jelly-home | dhaivat: /msg dpkg version |
| 00:09.27 | dbbolton | jelly-home: but i wanted to see more messages with my nick |
| 00:09.31 | *** join/#debian hibalum_ (~hibalum@ADijon-158-1-27-229.w92-130.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 00:10.33 | zak_ | waht is the last kernel version in debian dvds? |
| 00:10.53 | *** part/#debian debianite (~debianite@be2-84-91-60-48.netvisao.pt) |
| 00:11.34 | dhaivat | jelly-home: I'm using 5.01 |
| 00:12.38 | *** join/#debian zleap (~zleap3@dsl-217-155-46-222.zen.co.uk) |
| 00:12.43 | dhaivat | jelly-home: ? |
| 00:12.45 | jelly-home | dhaivat: /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 00:13.33 | jelly-home | dhaivat: you don't have a deb line for any debian mirror, add it. |
| 00:13.47 | streuner_ | zak_: default is for lenny/stable 2.6.28, but you can use kmuto too |
| 00:13.58 | dhaivat | okay. Can you give a sample one that I can tweak instead of starting from scratch please? |
| 00:14.02 | jelly-home | streuner_: 2.6.26 |
| 00:14.13 | streuner_ | zak_: 2.6.26 |
| 00:14.16 | streuner_ | thanks jelly |
| 00:14.43 | jelly-home | dhaivat: dpkg should have told you an example |
| 00:14.52 | jelly-home | well, more of a template |
| 00:15.21 | jelly-home | dhaivat: have you done that "/msg dpkg sources.list"? |
| 00:15.37 | zak_ | is apt ,comapred to zypper in opensuse ? |
| 00:16.13 | *** join/#debian dhaivat_ (~dhaivat@c-174-58-37-131.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 00:16.17 | jelly-home | we don't know what zypper does, zak_ |
| 00:16.21 | streuner_ | zak_: apt is the tool which manage to get packages, dpkg is the tool which manipulate and install packages into system |
| 00:16.32 | dhaivat_ | jelly-home: what's the country code for the USA? |
| 00:16.38 | zak_ | zypper is a package manager too :) |
| 00:16.41 | jelly-home | dhaivat_: us |
| 00:16.57 | doc|home | anyone got any suggestions on how I can fix: http://pastebin.ca/1795771 |
| 00:17.07 | doc|home | I'm using newly upgraded debian lenny |
| 00:17.56 | streuner_ | dpkg, listvals zypper |
| 00:17.58 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'zypper' by value returned no results. |
| 00:18.07 | jelly-home | doc|home: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied sounds like the downloaded script is in DOS text encoding instead of the unix one |
| 00:18.08 | zak_ | well after finishing installing , do i need to add some repos? |
| 00:18.08 | streuner_ | no wonder in #debian |
| 00:18.35 | streuner_ | !bad interpreter |
| 00:18.35 | dpkg | bad-interpreter is, like, a wrong #! line in a script, or script is in crlf - which is the case, if 'od -b filename|grep 015' returns something; ask me about <crlf-unix> - or script is not executable (use chmod +x on it), or script is on a partition mounted with the noexec (mounting with "user" implies that) option. |
| 00:18.52 | *** join/#debian Arafangion (~arafangio@60-241-250-19.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 00:18.58 | zak_ | streuner_: http://en.opensuse.org/Zypper , if you wanna learn something about zypper :) |
| 00:19.17 | doc|home | jelly-home: any idea how to find that script? |
| 00:19.43 | jelly-home | doc|home: no, I laready suggested using the packages for xdebug instead, don't have any new clues to add |
| 00:19.49 | streuner_ | zak_: no, usually installer should made some entries which normally enough in most cases |
| 00:20.09 | streuner_ | s/should/ / |
| 00:20.11 | doc|home | jelly-home: and I installed the package, except pecl doesn't seem to care it's there :/ |
| 00:20.48 | jelly-home | perhaps there's a debian php channel somewhere |
| 00:20.49 | streuner_ | zak_: basically you need 2 entries, one of normal sources and one for security |
| 00:20.51 | jelly-home | !php |
| 00:20.51 | dpkg | PHP is a scripting language. To install, ask me about <install php>. See also <php5>, <php4 security>, <php wants me to download still>, <php mysql>, <xampp>, <phpmyadmin>, <php gd>. http://wiki.debian.org/PHP http://www.php.net/ #php on irc.oftc.net, #php and ##php on irc.freenode.net. |
| 00:21.07 | zak_ | streuner_: a different concept from opensuse actually |
| 00:21.11 | jelly-home | then again, perhaps there's not |
| 00:21.15 | doc|home | I'll try on ##php, although it may be off-topic for there |
| 00:21.20 | zak_ | streuner_: entries'? |
| 00:21.33 | streuner_ | zak_: /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 00:24.50 | *** join/#debian Rix (~Rixi``@77-85-21-9.btc-net.bg) |
| 00:24.56 | zak_ | streuner_: and where do i get my CC ? |
| 00:25.36 | *** join/#debian kiuy-y (~kiuy-y@host152-79-dynamic.52-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 00:25.50 | *** join/#debian dhaivat (~dhaivat@c-174-58-37-131.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 00:26.59 | *** join/#debian Tramp (~mt@adsl-188-155-246-125.adslplus.ch) |
| 00:27.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 782] by debhelper |
| 00:28.29 | zak_ | adivisories= repositories? |
| 00:28.48 | *** join/#debian xand (~xand@pdpc/supporter/active/xand) |
| 00:30.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 00:30.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 00:32.00 | jhutchins_lt | zak_: No. |
| 00:32.35 | *** join/#debian Arafangion (~arafangio@60-241-250-19.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 00:33.43 | *** join/#debian flippppp (~flip@p5B3D7874.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:33.46 | *** join/#debian k\t (~]r@cpe-76-90-162-150.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 00:33.51 | zak_ | jhutchins_lt: security patches then ? |
| 00:34.11 | jhutchins_lt | zak_: Advisories are notifications. |
| 00:34.29 | jhutchins_lt | zak_: What is the primary language in Tunisia? |
| 00:34.42 | zak_ | ar and Fr |
| 00:34.59 | jhutchins_lt | ar? |
| 00:35.08 | *** join/#debian xand (~xand@pdpc/supporter/active/xand) |
| 00:35.12 | zak_ | arabic/french |
| 00:35.18 | *** join/#debian nelf (~nelf@bl5-44-3.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 00:35.27 | jhutchins_lt | ah. |
| 00:35.42 | *** join/#debian mezgani (~Ali@2001:5c0:1400:a::21) |
| 00:36.30 | *** join/#debian reisio (~reisio@unaffiliated/reisio) |
| 00:36.37 | *** join/#debian techie26 (~techie@bas21-toronto12-1242432277.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 00:37.37 | *** join/#debian lefel (~4b6e5ff8@gateway/web/freenode/x-crmvojexecyvdvdz) |
| 00:37.59 | lefel | I installed Tor in Debian as well as Polipo, but it's not working, anyone know why? |
| 00:39.57 | *** join/#debian xand (~xand@pdpc/supporter/active/xand) |
| 00:41.04 | reisio | lefel: what's not working... how? |
| 00:41.39 | *** join/#debian Roots (~olsen@adsl-99-162-120-36.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:42.59 | *** join/#debian Absolute0 (~ramin@ool-182e4b01.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 00:45.47 | *** join/#debian rxt0 (~rxt0@200.87.220.194) |
| 00:46.48 | *** join/#debian yagoo (~cb@modemcable117.1-21-96.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 00:47.43 | doc|home | I'm working on a VM and want to disable noexec but I can't run mount remount and the fstab file doesn't have the file structure |
| 00:50.00 | *** join/#debian Arafangion (~arafangio@60-241-250-19.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 00:50.26 | *** join/#debian flippppp (~flip@p5B3D6E5D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:53.24 | *** part/#debian bp0 (~opera@unaffiliated/bp0) |
| 00:54.19 | rxt0 | strange problem here, on an old pentium3 when i plug (hotplug) a pendrive the system totally hangs, but after reboot everything gets recognized |
| 00:54.27 | Roots | I've been unable to connect to wireless on a previously working connection with Debian testing. If anyone knows how to decode the system log output of Network Manager, I'd appreciate it. Details are in this thread: |
| 00:54.29 | Roots | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-wireless-networking-41/network-manager-fails-to-maintain-established-connection-788950/ |
| 00:55.05 | yagoo | i got this ntfs fs i need to mount (i'm going to get rid of it, but just curious which ntfs driver is most rw reliable) |
| 00:55.12 | yagoo | lol nobody cares |
| 00:55.29 | *** join/#debian seisatsu (~seisatsu@adsl-99-159-46-0.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:55.31 | doc|home | anyone got any suggestions for my problem? |
| 00:55.57 | yagoo | doc|home, how come you dont use a rescue c? |
| 00:56.00 | yagoo | cd? |
| 00:56.13 | doc|home | yagoo: it's a web server vm in a far away location |
| 00:57.05 | yagoo | doc|home, a "VM" ? what's that? |
| 00:57.13 | doc|home | yagoo: a virtual machine |
| 00:57.32 | yagoo | doc|home, what are you using on the host, vmware? |
| 00:57.34 | yagoo | xen? |
| 00:57.45 | rxt0 | doc|home: why don't chmod'? |
| 00:57.57 | doc|home | yagoo: no idea, I'm guessing they'd use xen |
| 00:58.09 | doc|home | rxt0: chmod doesn't get around noexec does it? |
| 00:58.16 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@20158182186.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 00:58.31 | *** join/#debian Sememmon (~Sememmon@unaffiliated/sememmon) |
| 00:58.41 | *** join/#debian murosai (~taseppa2@kekkonen.cs.hut.fi) |
| 00:58.54 | rxt0 | not quite sure, but you can unset execution for all the files |
| 00:59.07 | rxt0 | with chmod |
| 00:59.20 | doc|home | I want to get rid of noexec so I *can* execute the files |
| 00:59.48 | rxt0 | got it |
| 00:59.54 | yagoo | doc|home, temporarily? |
| 00:59.58 | rxt0 | tried chmod +x ? |
| 01:00.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 01:00.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 01:00.02 | doc|home | yagoo: yeah |
| 01:00.13 | doc|home | yagoo: I don't think that gets around it |
| 01:00.14 | yagoo | doc|home, so just make a loopback |
| 01:00.21 | doc|home | yagoo: hmm? |
| 01:00.42 | doc|home | I've tried mount -o remount,exec /tmp and it just returns permission denied (I'm root) |
| 01:00.50 | *** join/#debian orak3l (~orak3l@unaffiliated/orak3l) |
| 01:01.13 | *** join/#debian judd (~judd@unaffiliated/themill/bot/judd) |
| 01:01.33 | *** join/#debian joshteam (~joshteam@pool-173-57-5-214.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) |
| 01:01.40 | murosai | does anyone know any comparison charts about how many packages are managed by different repos in different distros? |
| 01:01.46 | joshteam | is it possble that chmod -R isn't getting hidden folders? |
| 01:01.49 | joshteam | such as .svn ? |
| 01:03.30 | yagoo | doc|home, mount -t tmpfs tmpfs /media/foobar -o rw,size=10M,nr_inodes=10k,mode=770,uid=1000,gid=1000 (do a mkdir and find your uid, "id" command) |
| 01:04.31 | doc|home | yagoo: uid is 0, should I change the uid in that command to 0? |
| 01:04.48 | doc|home | actually, all ids are 0 |
| 01:05.29 | reisio | murosai: there's one on wikipedia |
| 01:05.34 | reisio | murosai: but the information is pretty useless |
| 01:05.40 | yagoo | doc|home, so omit uid,gid |
| 01:05.51 | doc|home | ok |
| 01:05.53 | *** join/#debian kevind23 (Kevin@cpe-74-78-214-166.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 01:06.02 | reisio | you can install any package on any distro, whether there's a binary in the repo or not |
| 01:06.35 | *** join/#debian sysrqalt (~sysrqalt@75-135-76-28.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 01:06.36 | doc|home | yagoo: then? |
| 01:06.50 | kevind23 | So, I'm trying to install Debian from a flash drive. I can mount it from the command line (mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /cdrom) but I can't get the installer to find any of the files that it needs. Can anyone help me? |
| 01:06.57 | yagoo | doc|home, from this point on it should be obvious to you.. |
| 01:07.06 | doc|home | yagoo: it's not :) |
| 01:07.14 | doc|home | yagoo: I can't umount if that's what you're thinking |
| 01:07.41 | murosai | reisio: i thought i had seen one in wikipedia but now i just can't find the link, why do you consider it useless? |
| 01:07.52 | yagoo | doc|home, from what I can tell you were asking how to run on a mountpoint with exec priv.. |
| 01:07.56 | reisio | murosai: because of what I just said |
| 01:08.12 | yagoo | doc|home, assuming you want to extract a tarball and run an exec from it.. i can't help more about that |
| 01:08.18 | reisio | murosai: I mean what do you plan on doing with the information? |
| 01:08.26 | *** join/#debian phantomcircuit (~phantomci@adsl-75-56-186-14.dsl.skt2ca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:08.29 | doc|home | yuastnav: the reason for that being pecl wants to install something which it puts onto /tmp :/ |
| 01:08.41 | murosai | reisio: ah didn't notice it, but it's always easier to install a package through the package manager |
| 01:08.52 | yagoo | doc|home, then set your TMP variables |
| 01:08.59 | murosai | reisio: select what distro to use :) |
| 01:09.08 | *** join/#debian sysrqalt (~sysrqalt@75-135-76-28.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 01:09.11 | doc|home | yagoo: which ones? |
| 01:09.21 | reisio | murosai: it is |
| 01:09.32 | reisio | murosai: but every popular distro has all the popular packages |
| 01:09.33 | themill | doc|home: dpkg would normally be pretty unhappy about installing things if /tmp were noexec btw |
| 01:09.36 | yagoo | doc|home, i'm not sure.. see what the program is using |
| 01:09.39 | reisio | the difference would be in the less popular ones |
| 01:09.51 | doc|home | themill: I've no idea, but it hasn't complained so far |
| 01:09.56 | reisio | murosai: besides none has more packages than Debian, and you're already in #debian :p |
| 01:09.58 | yagoo | doc|home, guessing TMPDIR |
| 01:10.36 | yagoo | doc|home, what are u trying to run? |
| 01:11.00 | *** join/#debian linuxguy2009 (~mark@cpe-76-188-74-95.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 01:11.06 | murosai | reisio: i knew debian was pretty good covered, that's one reason im inclining towards it |
| 01:11.17 | *** join/#debian runev (vikestad@129.241.56.180) |
| 01:11.18 | doc|home | yagoo: pecl install xdebug (debug being a dependency of propel - there's an xdebug package but it's ignored by the pecl installer and there's no propel package) |
| 01:11.19 | reisio | it's the most popular Unix of all time |
| 01:11.42 | themill | ,versions php5-xdebug |
| 01:11.45 | judd | php5-xdebug -- lenny: 2.0.3-1; sid: 2.0.5-1; squeeze: 2.0.5-1 |
| 01:11.52 | themill | doc|home: ^^ why compile it at all? |
| 01:12.18 | doc|home | themill: it's a dependency of propel - there's an xdebug package but it's ignored by the pecl installer and there's no propel package |
| 01:12.40 | linuxguy2009 | How hard is it to configure the internet connection manually after stripping all packages off and putting gnome-desktop-environment back on? What do I need to do? |
| 01:12.41 | doc|home | so pecl install propel_generator tries to install xdebug, which fails |
| 01:13.03 | themill | doc|home: sounds like yet another reason to dislike pecl :S |
| 01:13.09 | murosai | are circular dependency problems common with debian? |
| 01:13.16 | doc|home | themill: until there's a debian propel package it's all I've got |
| 01:13.23 | babilen | murosai: no |
| 01:13.42 | murosai | but not unheard of? |
| 01:13.43 | *** join/#debian sysrqalt (~sysrqalt@75-135-76-28.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 01:13.52 | joshteam | is there a good article/walk through for instaling the latest svn client on debian? not the one that comes with apt-get install svn? |
| 01:13.53 | yagoo | doc|home, php5-xdebug also shows up with a search on my lenny system |
| 01:13.55 | *** join/#debian sysdoc (~sysdoc@pool-173-55-144-135.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 01:13.59 | *** join/#debian kingsley (~kingsley@74.220.246.125) |
| 01:14.07 | doc|home | yagoo: it's ignored by the pecl installer and there's no propel package |
| 01:14.17 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@h100n2c1o269.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 01:14.28 | babilen | ,versions subversion |
| 01:14.30 | judd | subversion -- etch: 1.4.2dfsg1-2; etch-security: 1.4.2dfsg1-3; etch-backports: 1.5.1dfsg1-1~bpo40+1; lenny: 1.5.1dfsg1-4; lenny-security: 1.5.1dfsg1-4; lenny-backports: 1.6.4dfsg-1~bpo50+1; sid: 1.6.9dfsg-1; squeeze: 1.6.9dfsg-1 |
| 01:14.42 | themill | murosai: google is your friend. They can on rare occasion cause problems and there is work to get rid of them. http://piuparts.debian.org/squeeze/state-circular-dependency.html |
| 01:14.58 | joshteam | babilen: I think you are talking to me, but I am rpetty green :-p |
| 01:15.00 | babilen | joshteam: Subversion 1.6.9 is in sid. '/msg dpkg ssb' to learn how to backport that |
| 01:15.27 | yagoo | doc|home, you mean "proper" package. I have no idea why you keep saying that |
| 01:15.39 | babilen | joshteam: and you can get 1.6.4 from backports. '/msg dpkg bpo' to learn how to install that |
| 01:15.47 | doc|home | yagoo: is there an improper package? |
| 01:16.02 | yagoo | doc|home, what language do you speak? |
| 01:16.03 | joshteam | babilen: Thanks, I will attempt to install 1.6.9 |
| 01:16.06 | babilen | joshteam: Which version do you need? |
| 01:16.07 | doc|home | yagoo: english... |
| 01:16.15 | yagoo | doc|home, go back to school man |
| 01:16.18 | doc|home | ? |
| 01:16.18 | *** join/#debian kabniel (~jonas@90-230-208-111-no77.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 01:16.19 | yagoo | doc|home, ;) |
| 01:16.21 | joshteam | babilen 1.6.9, reading about backports right now |
| 01:16.38 | doc|home | yagoo: sorry, I'm just not seeing what you mean by proper package as opposed to what I said |
| 01:16.46 | joshteam | babilen: this seems pretty intense, no? |
| 01:16.59 | babilen | joshteam: Ok - I assume that you are using debian stable (i.e. lenny) |
| 01:17.04 | joshteam | yes |
| 01:17.24 | babilen | joshteam: It's not that hard :-) |
| 01:17.48 | babilen | joshteam: It gets hairy if you can't install all the build dependencies for it on lenny |
| 01:18.04 | joshteam | backporting & build essentials is just intimidating I guess |
| 01:18.05 | themill | doc|home: is there another machine you've got access to that you can use to make the package? dh-make-php might help. |
| 01:18.15 | babilen | joshteam: Let me/us know when you need help or have questions |
| 01:18.16 | doc|home | themill: nope :/ |
| 01:18.17 | *** join/#debian humbolt (~humbolt@wlan-240-238.pns.univie.ac.at) |
| 01:18.20 | yagoo | doc|home, seems that you're having a hard time communicating.. there's #debian-de too :) |
| 01:18.22 | joshteam | thanks babilen |
| 01:18.40 | *** join/#debian valdyn (~valdyn@valdyn.org) |
| 01:18.40 | doc|home | yagoo: eh, I'm not German, nor do I speak a word of German |
| 01:18.50 | doc|home | except what I saw in old war films |
| 01:18.58 | doc|home | (which they may not appreciate) |
| 01:19.07 | *** join/#debian pingouin (~pingouin@london.perfect-privacy.com) |
| 01:19.58 | joshteam | babilen: I just walked in a circle.. I asked him about SSB (which I realize now stands for simple sid backports) and he said, Ask me about <backports> - then in describing backports he says, See also <simple sid backport>.. ;-p I am still not sure my first move. LOL |
| 01:20.46 | yagoo | thinks joshteam is trying to befriend dpkg |
| 01:20.57 | joshteam | I am |
| 01:20.59 | babilen | joshteam: Backports has *already* backported packages for lenny. The version of subversion in backports (as in backports.org) is 1.6.4 which you do not want |
| 01:21.19 | yagoo | classifies joshteam as another bot |
| 01:21.21 | babilen | joshteam: So you have to do *your own* backports. The procedure is outlined in the factoid 'ssb' |
| 01:21.24 | joshteam | is 1.6.4 easier to install than 1.6.9 ? |
| 01:21.25 | yagoo | lol |
| 01:21.36 | babilen | joshteam: yes |
| 01:21.54 | joshteam | lets try that and see if that is a new enough client for me then |
| 01:21.55 | joshteam | :-p |
| 01:22.17 | babilen | joshteam: But the backporting is not hard as well |
| 01:22.39 | babilen | joshteam: I would try the 'ssb' recipe and install the version from backports if that fails |
| 01:22.40 | joshteam | babilen: riding a bike isn't hard either... once you've done it :-p |
| 01:23.12 | babilen | we can walk you through it - and it's *really* not that hard :-D |
| 01:23.14 | babilen | !ssb |
| 01:23.15 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 01:23.26 | joshteam | yes I am trying to find a sources.list right now |
| 01:23.31 | joshteam | locate sources.list failed me :( |
| 01:23.35 | *** part/#debian marckie (~marc@119.75.43.62) |
| 01:24.03 | babilen | joshteam: 1) Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add "deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free" to it |
| 01:24.07 | themill | votes that trying out 1.6.4 is probably a good move |
| 01:24.08 | yagoo | joshteam, man sources.list |
| 01:24.19 | babilen | themill: I agree :-) |
| 01:24.33 | *** join/#debian sysrqalt (~sysrqalt@75-135-76-28.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 01:24.57 | joshteam | babilen: done |
| 01:25.00 | themill | (and .de mirror for a guy with a US IP is probably not what is wanted) |
| 01:25.01 | yagoo | what app of 1.6.4 by which he speaks? |
| 01:25.12 | joshteam | svn |
| 01:25.27 | linuxguy2009 | Ok so I installed dhcp3-client and rebooted and my internet works fine. But the network icon in the notification area isnt showing up. Am I missing something else? |
| 01:25.32 | joshteam | are we going the 1.6.4 route? |
| 01:26.03 | babilen | joshteam: no - you just took the first step on the "do your own backport" route |
| 01:26.13 | yagoo | linuxguy2009, nm-applet |
| 01:26.29 | joshteam | babilen: I see. is there anyway we can try the 1.6.4 route quickly? |
| 01:26.44 | *** join/#debian Bhavic (~Bhavic@125-236-190-113.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 01:26.44 | babilen | joshteam: remove the line you've just added and follow the instructions on http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions |
| 01:27.06 | joshteam | thanks a ton babilen |
| 01:27.19 | joshteam | I really do appreciate it, I know how green people can be frustrating :) |
| 01:27.32 | babilen | don't worry about that :-) |
| 01:28.09 | murosai | is there a seperate testing/unstable image file or is it just a matter of changing the apt config? |
| 01:28.16 | *** join/#debian phantomcircuit (~phantomci@adsl-75-56-186-14.dsl.skt2ca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:28.22 | babilen | After you've added the 'deb http://www.backports ...' line to sources.list run 'aptitude update' |
| 01:28.25 | linuxguy2009 | yagoo: You mean manually add it from the panel applet list or what? |
| 01:28.26 | joshteam | babilen: so where it says "package" do I need to type something fancy from the versions output you did earlier? |
| 01:28.28 | *** join/#debian oblu (~oblu@ip-89-103-168-220.karneval.cz) |
| 01:28.51 | yagoo | linuxguy2009, it should be in the list.. |
| 01:28.57 | yagoo | linuxguy2009, assuming youre using gnome |
| 01:29.17 | babilen | joshteam: Then 'aptitude install debian-backports-keyring' (you probably get a warning - ignore it *this time*) |
| 01:29.18 | linuxguy2009 | yagoo: Yeah its there but doesnt look the same at all. |
| 01:29.31 | yagoo | lol |
| 01:29.32 | *** join/#debian sysrqalt (~sysrqalt@75-135-76-28.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 01:29.45 | yagoo | same at all? you dont even see my desktop on this end of the wire |
| 01:29.53 | joshteam | babilen: http://paste2.org/p/666687 |
| 01:30.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 01:30.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 01:30.25 | linuxguy2009 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:30.28 | *** join/#debian sysrqalt (~sysrqalt@75-135-76-28.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 01:30.29 | babilen | joshteam: yeah - Just install the debian-backports-keyring package and run 'aptitude update' again |
| 01:30.36 | joshteam | k.. doing now |
| 01:30.53 | linuxguy2009 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:30.59 | yagoo | linuxguy2009, you mean this one? http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/ |
| 01:31.04 | joshteam | done |
| 01:31.08 | joshteam | all good (so it seems) |
| 01:31.10 | yagoo | linuxguy2009, maybe you need to have the NetworkManager running |
| 01:31.11 | babilen | joshteam: No error this time? |
| 01:31.15 | joshteam | no sir |
| 01:31.27 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 01:31.30 | linuxguy2009 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:31.40 | *** join/#debian bier (~bier@pD9E2C1A8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:31.41 | *** join/#debian bier|tp (~bier@pD9E2C1A8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:31.43 | babilen | joshteam: Ok - You can install subversion (and other packages from backports) by selecting the backports repository with '-t lenny-backports' |
| 01:31.44 | linuxguy2009 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:31.48 | *** join/#debian jelly-home (~jelly@islands.iskon.hr) |
| 01:31.51 | *** join/#debian sysrqalt (~sysrqalt@75-135-76-28.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 01:31.56 | joshteam | apt-get install -t lenny-backports svn ? |
| 01:32.16 | babilen | joshteam: So you would run 'aptitude -t lenny-backports install subversion' now to install svn |
| 01:32.18 | linuxguy2009 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.20 | joshteam | or do I have to specify the exact version? I assume not since one version would be supported at any time? |
| 01:32.28 | babilen | joshteam: Don't use apt-get but aptitude |
| 01:32.41 | joshteam | k.. do i need to remove my current subversion? |
| 01:32.42 | linuxguy2009 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.42 | yagoo | linuxguy2009, network-manager-gnome |
| 01:32.46 | linuxguy2009 | ok |
| 01:32.49 | yagoo | packagename |
| 01:32.53 | joshteam | babilen or will aptitude fix that? |
| 01:33.10 | babilen | joshteam: The current version will be replaced with the new version just like every "normal" update |
| 01:33.28 | *** join/#debian oblu_ (~oblu@ip-89-103-168-220.karneval.cz) |
| 01:33.35 | joshteam | thanks so much babilen - works like a charm |
| 01:33.47 | linuxguy2009 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:33.51 | *** join/#debian cads (~max@75.139.140.247) |
| 01:33.52 | babilen | joshteam: Is the version new enough? |
| 01:34.00 | joshteam | yes it is |
| 01:34.00 | joshteam | :) |
| 01:34.01 | joshteam | yay |
| 01:34.04 | babilen | great |
| 01:34.07 | babilen | have fun |
| 01:34.08 | yagoo | linuxguy2009, cat /etc/xdg/autostart/nm-applet.desktop (dpkg -L <packagename>) |
| 01:34.09 | babilen | !next |
| 01:34.09 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 01:34.20 | *** join/#debian tapuzi (~tapuzi@87.69.125.102) |
| 01:34.35 | *** join/#debian zak__ (~zak@41.226.28.133) |
| 01:34.59 | linuxguy2009 | Im good than you! |
| 01:35.00 | yagoo | linuxguy2009, do know the difference between the interfaces file and networkmanager |
| 01:35.01 | babilen | joshteam: One last thing - You *might* want to follow the last instructions given on the backports.org instructions site |
| 01:35.16 | babilen | joshteam: That will get you updates from backports as well |
| 01:35.30 | babilen | joshteam: It's not necessary - but you might want to keep that in mind |
| 01:35.34 | tapuzi | hey if I want debian unstable do I need to keep the lenny repository on sources.list ? |
| 01:35.36 | *** join/#debian badarinath (~sanal@117.196.133.141) |
| 01:35.38 | joshteam | ahh, great.. I will do that.. :) |
| 01:35.50 | linuxguy2009 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:35.59 | yagoo | linuxguy2009, nm then :) |
| 01:36.15 | babilen | joshteam: I am referring to the instructions detailing the 'pinning' (setting repository priorities) |
| 01:37.07 | babilen | themill: thanks :-D |
| 01:37.24 | joshteam | yeah for all future updates, right?\ |
| 01:37.31 | babilen | exactly |
| 01:37.32 | joshteam | the pin stuff |
| 01:37.38 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 01:37.58 | linuxguy2009 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:38.22 | badarinath | hello all I'm Sanal from India....a beginner here...having not much knowledge 'bout irc protocols... |
| 01:38.42 | yagoo | linuxguy2009, well you have to test it out.. i have no idea |
| 01:38.43 | yagoo | :) |
| 01:39.19 | *** join/#debian daishadar (~daishadar@netblock-75-79-40-174.dslextreme.com) |
| 01:39.50 | yagoo | badarinath, protocol is a word engineers use |
| 01:40.02 | yagoo | badarinath, you mean you're new to using irc :) |
| 01:40.32 | linuxguy2009 | One other issue is every time I run apt-get install I keep getting this section going by that says please check your local settings, language=unset etc. How do I fix that? |
| 01:40.35 | babilen | badarinath: found a basic package that fits your needs? |
| 01:40.52 | yagoo | linuxguy2009, there are also great walkthroughs from the debian wiki if you need to setup a network |
| 01:40.58 | yagoo | !debian wiki |
| 01:41.33 | *** join/#debian echosystm (~echosystm@ppp118-210-159-71.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net) |
| 01:41.56 | babilen | linuxguy2009: Not sure - but 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' might be what you need. Also: Use aptitude |
| 01:42.25 | linuxguy2009 | babilen: ok thank you ill check that. |
| 01:42.33 | *** join/#debian LnxSlck (1000@95.69.41.201) |
| 01:42.34 | *** join/#debian flippppp (~flip@p5B3D79D8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:42.46 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 01:43.00 | *** join/#debian _saw (~saw@unaffiliated/saw/x-485762) |
| 01:43.21 | *** join/#debian kingsley (~kingsley@74.220.246.125) |
| 01:43.49 | joshteam | babilen: i have one more question for you |
| 01:43.55 | joshteam | if you don't mind |
| 01:44.01 | *** join/#debian ungage (ung@dsl-fixed-94-30-53-26.interdsl.co.uk) |
| 01:44.03 | babilen | not at all |
| 01:44.13 | *** join/#debian heavenquake (~heavenqua@unaffiliated/heavenquake) |
| 01:44.20 | joshteam | I am on Mac OSx running a Debian instance as VM within OSx (VMFusion) - follow? |
| 01:44.33 | babilen | more or less ... |
| 01:44.40 | joshteam | I mount to the debian file system via samba. |
| 01:44.59 | joshteam | that way I can develop on Netbeans (in the mac) while keeping my dev environment like prod. |
| 01:45.14 | babilen | ok |
| 01:45.26 | joshteam | Problem is.. Netbeans gets restricted .. so I did a chmod -R 777 ./project :-p I know it's bad, but it's a vm w/ a private network |
| 01:45.46 | joshteam | but forwhatever reason chmod -R doesn't recursively follow .svn folders :/ |
| 01:45.55 | joshteam | is there a way to fix this? |
| 01:46.28 | joshteam | I get errors like this, Can't open file '/Volumes/SpottedHere/trunk/application/.svn/tmp/text-base/Bootstrap.php.svn-base': Permission denied |
| 01:46.33 | joshteam | each time I try to commit |
| 01:46.50 | tapuzi | hey if I want debian unstable do I need to keep the lenny repository on sources.list ? |
| 01:46.52 | *** join/#debian shogunx (~shogunx@2001:4978:106:1:211:d8ff:fe4e:bacc) |
| 01:47.15 | *** join/#debian RoBz (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 01:47.21 | pngwn | tapuzi, if you need to ask that, you don't need sid |
| 01:47.49 | tapuzi | you don't have to jump to conclusions that fast |
| 01:48.00 | babilen | joshteam: I can't reproduce that behaviour over here |
| 01:48.46 | babilen | joshteam: But something like: |
| 01:49.00 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 01:49.04 | *** join/#debian albech (~thomas@124.157.185.47) |
| 01:49.10 | babilen | joshteam: 'find /path/to/your/repo -name '.svn' |xargs chmod 777' should work |
| 01:49.33 | murosai | is there only one version of the netinst image (i.e. can't pick between stable or testing) |
| 01:50.00 | babilen | joshteam: Execute the 'find /path/foo/bar -name '.svn'' first to see which directories are found |
| 01:50.24 | joshteam | babilen: I think it has to do with my samba mount is under a user i created 'jteam' |
| 01:50.28 | joshteam | but a lot of stuff I do is as root |
| 01:50.43 | joshteam | so for whatever reasons files get made as root |
| 01:50.47 | *** part/#debian linuxguy2009 (~mark@cpe-76-188-74-95.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 01:50.53 | joshteam | even when using netbeans (which is mounting as jteam) |
| 01:50.55 | babilen | joshteam: You could also add '-type d' to the find command to restrict it to directories or change the chmod command to something like 'chmod a+rwX' |
| 01:51.07 | yagoo | joshteam, i believe a lazy way of fixing that would be to use effective groupid (sticky groupid bit), but i have no idea how it behaves under osx |
| 01:51.21 | joshteam | is there a way to get jteam all privs as root without the sudo command? |
| 01:51.45 | *** join/#debian TheOnly (~theonly@cpc12-sgyl29-2-0-cust6.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 01:51.50 | babilen | joshteam: Why do you work as root? Or why do you *have to*? |
| 01:52.02 | *** join/#debian linuxguy2009 (~mark@cpe-76-188-74-95.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 01:52.09 | joshteam | babilen: I don't. I co the code as jteam |
| 01:52.42 | babilen | "but a lot of stuff I do is as root" ? |
| 01:53.03 | linuxguy2009 | Ive asked this many times before but, does anyone know of a way to disable the recently used documents list in the places menu? |
| 01:53.18 | joshteam | beacuse my jteam users doesn't have shit for privs |
| 01:53.24 | cads | Hey, this is perhaps going to be considered an offensive question. Does anyone know if apt and gnome have been ported to windows? Heh, basically I'd like to know if anyone has ported a debian environment to run on top of windows. |
| 01:53.24 | joshteam | can't start mysql, manage samba, etc. |
| 01:53.55 | yagoo | linuxguy2009, you must be not the only one, try with google |
| 01:54.10 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 01:54.18 | babilen | linuxguy2009: I am not sure if you can disable that, but you can change the permission of ~/.recently-used.xbel and ~/.recently-used so you can't write to that file anymore |
| 01:54.26 | yagoo | thinks his last phrase should be in the factoid :) |
| 01:54.34 | babilen | linuxguy2009: Contact the GNOME devs to learn a better way |
| 01:54.44 | linuxguy2009 | yagoo: ok ill look it up again. |
| 01:54.59 | linuxguy2009 | babilen: ok i might do that thanks. |
| 01:55.00 | joshteam | babilen: for instance I just ran chmod -R 777 ./trunk then chown -hR jteam ./trunk |
| 01:55.08 | joshteam | and then from Netbeans (mounted as jteam) did a svn ci |
| 01:55.10 | joshteam | http://paste2.org/p/666698 |
| 01:56.05 | joshteam | so if I look at the folder |
| 01:56.06 | joshteam | http://paste2.org/p/666701 |
| 01:56.08 | yagoo | notices joshteam's "/Volume" --> OS X! :) |
| 01:56.17 | joshteam | you can see some stuff is owned by root |
| 01:56.18 | mouser- | linuxguy2009 - I know there's a KDE-Windows project that might do what you need. Also check out portable ubuntu. |
| 01:56.22 | joshteam | even though I did a chown |
| 01:56.23 | babilen | I think you might want to change the way you deploy your application/code |
| 01:56.44 | joshteam | babilen: deploy?? this isn't my CI - this is simply trying to get a development instance running :-p |
| 01:56.47 | dbbolton | mouser- kde on windows has some serious drawbacks |
| 01:57.38 | babilen | joshteam: this is on OS X, right? |
| 01:57.42 | joshteam | yes |
| 01:57.43 | linuxguy2009 | you guys are always super helpful here. |
| 01:57.52 | babilen | joshteam: Where exactly does Debian enter the equation? |
| 01:58.31 | joshteam | i write php / java software |
| 01:58.33 | babilen | linuxguy2009: Let me know if you find a better way to disable the 'recently-used' files, OK? |
| 01:58.38 | *** join/#debian EliasAmaral (~dark@unaffiliated/eliasamaral) |
| 01:58.55 | *** join/#debian Spami|Thug (~Spami|Thu@unaffiliated/spamithug/x-9927323) |
| 01:58.59 | joshteam | babilen: all the code lives on the debian environment (my dev) so that I can goto www.project.dev and it will execute my development |
| 01:59.17 | mouser- | dbbolton: probably. I subscribed to their mailing list last year and it was full of bugs. I'm just mentioning it because I know of it. |
| 01:59.23 | *** join/#debian bbelt16ag (~bbelt16ag@97.101.180.19) |
| 01:59.25 | joshteam | babilen in order to use all the fancy IDEs, etc... I like to work in my OSx environemnt.. so I mount (with samba) to the debian filesystem. |
| 01:59.48 | joshteam | I mount to the debian file system (where my development code lives) as jteam |
| 01:59.52 | *** part/#debian nervousTwitch (~user@173-16-149-43.client.mchsi.com) |
| 02:00.01 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 02:00.01 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 02:00.04 | babilen | joshteam: Yeah - And I think that you might need a better way to transfer your code from OS X to Debian |
| 02:00.10 | dbbolton | mouser-: nevertheless i found it way more useable than the windows 7 explorer shell |
| 02:00.13 | joshteam | babilen: the code never lives in OSx |
| 02:00.27 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 02:00.45 | babilen | joshteam: You are editing the code from OS X - As you OS X user ... |
| 02:01.25 | joshteam | babilen: I see your point. Even if the files are on debian, my mac os x user may be fucking shit up? |
| 02:01.39 | babilen | joshteam: Would love to help you now, but this would need more thought than I am willing to give it right now (3 AM here :-) |
| 02:01.41 | *** join/#debian humbolt (~humbolt@wlan-240-238.pns.univie.ac.at) |
| 02:01.54 | joshteam | oh damn, that's early :) |
| 02:02.04 | *** join/#debian ungage (ung@dsl-fixed-94-30-53-26.interdsl.co.uk) |
| 02:02.06 | joshteam | I appreciate all the help you gave me to now ;) It was a long shot. |
| 02:02.20 | yagoo | joshteam, well i did give you a solution but you just nodded |
| 02:02.32 | joshteam | yagoo: I didn't see it? |
| 02:02.39 | yagoo | joshteam, I forgot. |
| 02:02.40 | mouser- | linuxguy2009 - The whole code isn't ported, but if you don't mind running the Debian-based distros in a portable enviironment you can look at pendrivelinux.com. It works at a good speed on a flash drive, and would be even better if run from the hard drive. |
| 02:02.42 | yagoo | :) |
| 02:02.59 | yagoo | joshteam, what's on the usb, vfat/ntfs/hfs ? |
| 02:03.23 | babilen | joshteam: Come back another day - But I really think that there might be a better way to 'share' your codebase between OSX and Debian. You could for example check out the repository on both and commit - checkout to transfer changes |
| 02:03.52 | babilen | joshteam: And as yagoo rightfully suggested you could set the 'group sticky bit' |
| 02:03.57 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@s83-191-241-142.cust.tele2.se) |
| 02:04.24 | babilen | joshteam: Good luck and good night :-) |
| 02:04.51 | joshteam | appreciate all the help guys! really do, and yagoo sorry but for the most part that was klingon. haha. I am going to call it a night, since I as able to ci all my work - and will try to tackle the larger issue another day. |
| 02:05.36 | *** join/#debian ungage (ung@dsl-fixed-94-30-53-26.interdsl.co.uk) |
| 02:05.42 | *** join/#debian ferret_ (ferret@gentoo/user/ferret) |
| 02:06.24 | *** join/#debian mypapit__ (~mypapit@60.53.75.177) |
| 02:06.34 | *** join/#debian TrueDD (~truedd@unaffiliated/truedd) |
| 02:06.41 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 02:09.00 | rxt0 | usb hotplug solved: note to all unlucky kids like me, don't forget to modprobe sd_mod, usbcore and usb-storage, my thanks to dpkg |
| 02:11.17 | *** join/#debian Amarande (amarande@68-191-37-155.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com) |
| 02:12.04 | WaterRatj | does debian have something like screen resolution? |
| 02:12.53 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 02:13.03 | Amarande | WaterRatj, what do you mean by "something like screen resolution"? |
| 02:13.29 | WaterRatj | well like to set screen resolution to 1280x1024 ? |
| 02:13.38 | Amarande | yeah, it does |
| 02:13.55 | echosystm | no WaterRatj, linux only works at 800x600 |
| 02:13.59 | Amarande | by default, Debian installs GNOME, so if you have the default install, go to System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution |
| 02:15.36 | *** join/#debian humbolt1 (~humbolt@wlan-240-238.pns.univie.ac.at) |
| 02:15.50 | *** join/#debian b-ker (~nazax@189.193.105.38) |
| 02:16.11 | echosystm | when do security updates for lenny end? |
| 02:16.19 | rxt0 | by the way, how do i change virtual terminal resolution? |
| 02:16.38 | Amarande | echosystm, a year after squeeze comes out, or when the version after squeeze comes out, whichever comes first |
| 02:16.47 | echosystm | hm |
| 02:16.48 | echosystm | ok |
| 02:16.50 | echosystm | thanks |
| 02:17.09 | Amarande | so probably a year after squeeze, since debian seems to have settled into a fairly relaxed release rate lately |
| 02:17.35 | Amarande | not like say fedora. heh |
| 02:17.51 | Amarande | hopes for the sake of the poor fedora wearers that yum has a dist-upgrade type option ^.^ |
| 02:18.16 | *** join/#debian seisatsu (~seisatsu@adsl-76-254-10-72.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:19.09 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 02:20.26 | joshteam | yagoo: around? |
| 02:20.42 | *** join/#debian humbolt (~humbolt@wlan-240-238.pns.univie.ac.at) |
| 02:21.35 | *** join/#debian shogunx (~shogunx@2001:4978:106:1:211:d8ff:fe4e:bacc) |
| 02:22.16 | *** join/#debian boxxertrumps (~ryan@unaffiliated/boxxertrumps) |
| 02:24.01 | *** join/#debian likevinyl (~mikeriver@190.55.43.24) |
| 02:24.18 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 02:27.07 | boxxertrumps | what was the name of that movie... there was this babe that was synthesised and she busted out of the place and fell into a hover-taxi in the beginning |
| 02:27.22 | boxxertrumps | i cannot remember and i want to finish watching it |
| 02:29.10 | nooper | 5th element? |
| 02:29.16 | nooper | boxxertrumps: ^ |
| 02:29.23 | boxxertrumps | sounds familiar |
| 02:29.23 | *** join/#debian seeker (~william@ip68-102-70-8.ks.ok.cox.net) |
| 02:29.37 | boxxertrumps | oh, yes |
| 02:29.39 | nooper | leeloo dallas multipass |
| 02:29.40 | boxxertrumps | awesome, thanks |
| 02:30.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 02:30.01 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 02:30.29 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 02:31.59 | *** join/#debian CellKill (cellkill@slickone.fataleffect.com) |
| 02:32.39 | *** join/#debian Jguy (~jguy@c-67-175-71-188.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 02:36.42 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 02:37.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 774] by debhelper |
| 02:40.17 | *** join/#debian pheaver (~pheaver@c-98-246-148-99.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 02:40.33 | *** join/#debian Arafangion (~arafangio@60-241-250-19.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 02:41.10 | *** join/#debian kiuy-y (~kiuy-y@host186-146-dynamic.45-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 02:41.32 | rxt0 | system freeze after heavy NFS transfer solved: just apt-get upgrade |
| 02:42.20 | *** join/#debian Belial` (~joe@c-68-47-17-131.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 02:42.57 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 02:43.12 | *** join/#debian collabra (~collabra@c-24-22-90-7.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 02:44.14 | *** join/#debian ga_bash (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) |
| 02:44.26 | *** join/#debian CAiRO__ (~tooar@p4FC2153E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:45.32 | *** join/#debian ceduardo (~ceduardo@Wimax-Cali-190-70-4-178.orbitel.net.co) |
| 02:46.31 | *** join/#debian Tiniar_Mortas (~Tiniar_Mo@62.201.142.6) |
| 02:46.47 | *** part/#debian Tiniar_Mortas (~Tiniar_Mo@62.201.142.6) |
| 02:47.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 782] by debhelper |
| 02:47.57 | *** join/#debian hayleyw (~hayleyw@c-98-227-175-151.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 02:48.09 | *** join/#debian likevinyl (~mikeriver@190.55.43.24) |
| 02:49.01 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 02:49.14 | *** join/#debian humbolt (~humbolt@wlan-241-236.pns.univie.ac.at) |
| 02:50.17 | *** join/#debian none (~km@adsl-99-186-247-130.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:50.46 | *** join/#debian allisterb (~allisterb@cuscon128534.tstt.net.tt) |
| 02:53.08 | *** join/#debian rhizome (~rhizome@host186-146-dynamic.45-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 02:53.12 | drith | can anyone help with installing driver of xerox work centre 3110 on squeeze? |
| 02:53.45 | drith | workcentre 3119 actually |
| 02:54.45 | *** join/#debian orak3l_ (~orak3l@unaffiliated/orak3l) |
| 02:56.07 | ceduardo | do you have the printer driver? |
| 02:57.04 | *** join/#debian humbolt (~humbolt@wlan-241-236.pns.univie.ac.at) |
| 02:57.54 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 02:59.08 | *** join/#debian sassytomato (~squeeze@modemcable051.149-23-96.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 03:00.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 03:00.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 03:00.11 | *** join/#debian hochron (~ringo@adsl-76-208-70-118.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:01.17 | *** join/#debian jmarsden (~jmarsden@98.119.11.78) |
| 03:02.59 | *** part/#debian echosystm (~echosystm@ppp118-210-159-71.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net) |
| 03:04.06 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 03:06.16 | drith | yes i have it but it is not working correctly |
| 03:06.52 | drith | where can i get libqt-mt.samsung-mfp.so.3.0.4 |
| 03:06.56 | drith | ? |
| 03:07.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 776] by debhelper |
| 03:08.17 | adb | /usr/lib/ |
| 03:09.10 | *** join/#debian Belial` (~joe@c-68-47-17-131.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 03:09.15 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 03:09.25 | adb | nm , samsung site ? |
| 03:09.56 | hayleyw | *shrug* definitely not in debian |
| 03:10.27 | *** join/#debian gewt (b4@ip-67-202-107-221.chicago-il.gewt.net) |
| 03:10.31 | gewt | hm |
| 03:10.35 | gewt | should I ask debina....or wine |
| 03:10.43 | gewt | "wine: failed to initialize: /lib32/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.9' not found (required by /usr/lib/wine/ntdll.sll.so)" |
| 03:10.47 | *** part/#debian linuxguy2009 (~mark@cpe-76-188-74-95.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 03:10.50 | gewt | works on desktop, but not laptop |
| 03:10.59 | gewt | same wine version afaik |
| 03:11.45 | gewt | am I missing a package? |
| 03:11.50 | *** join/#debian agike (~adam@121-74-68-140.telstraclear.net) |
| 03:12.21 | adb | drith, http://www.samsung.com/us/support/download/supportDown.do?model_nm=SCX-4100&mType=DR&vType=L |
| 03:13.25 | jelly-home | gewt: pastebin the output of dpkg -l libc6 libc6-i386 wine wine-unstable | tail -4 |
| 03:13.43 | adb | gewt, GLIBC_2.9' not found < not enough ? |
| 03:13.45 | drith | adb: i can't see linux driver there |
| 03:14.07 | jelly-home | gewt: it looks as if you're using a build of wine not made for your installed debian release |
| 03:14.24 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 03:14.31 | gewt | jelly-home: just realized that |
| 03:14.34 | gewt | realised* |
| 03:16.09 | *** join/#debian Arafangion (~arafangio@60-241-250-19.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 03:16.29 | jelly-home | judd: versions wine |
| 03:16.30 | judd | wine -- etch: 0.9.25-2.1; etch-backports: 1.0.0-1~bpo40+1; lenny: 1.0.1-1; sid: 1.0.1-2; squeeze: 1.0.1-2; experimental: 1.1.24-2 |
| 03:16.36 | jelly-home | judd: versions wine-unstable |
| 03:16.37 | judd | wine-unstable -- sid: 1.1.32-1 |
| 03:16.53 | *** join/#debian humbolt (~humbolt@wlan-241-236.pns.univie.ac.at) |
| 03:19.34 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 03:19.34 | adb | drith, http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/DR/200902/20090225140447171/UnifiedLinuxDriver.tar.gz |
| 03:19.57 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 03:20.09 | drith | 10x |
| 03:20.15 | drith | will see what will happen |
| 03:20.27 | adb | http://www.elijahlofgren.com/linux/ubuntu/#scx-4100 |
| 03:20.47 | adb | as how to install .. |
| 03:21.14 | *** join/#debian streuner__ (foobar@p5DD3A811.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 03:23.11 | drith | when i used lenny i had no problems installing my driver |
| 03:23.17 | drith | but here i have trouble |
| 03:24.04 | adb | drith, debian has not that driver, nor in lenny or squeeze |
| 03:24.49 | drith | i ment the driver i had from the cdrom |
| 03:25.01 | adb | that's easy .. |
| 03:25.03 | drith | the vendor driver |
| 03:25.11 | jp-- | hi guys. I have no sound from my rca output. I've hdmi and rca outputs, and I think the hdmi audio output is impeding the rca output to work. |
| 03:25.16 | *** join/#debian montito (~kvirc@200-171-20-235.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 03:25.18 | jp-- | I just executed the alsa information script |
| 03:25.28 | jp-- | if someone wants to help me... http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=2085807742d1f5d91f55afc95893d473aeec6e06 |
| 03:25.28 | jp-- | <jp--> thanks! |
| 03:25.34 | *** part/#debian montito (~kvirc@200-171-20-235.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 03:25.39 | *** join/#debian humbolt (~humbolt@wlan-241-236.pns.univie.ac.at) |
| 03:25.43 | jp-- | this is driving me crazy. |
| 03:25.44 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 03:25.51 | *** join/#debian minsa (~delicious@c-67-164-81-196.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 03:25.54 | jp-- | been 7 hours trying to make it work |
| 03:25.57 | jp-- | :/ |
| 03:26.13 | jp-- | I'm about to compile a kernel |
| 03:26.30 | *** join/#debian BlackFate (~asd@unaffiliated/blackfate) |
| 03:26.32 | jp-- | commenting out some kernel config lines to make it not load the hdmi driver module |
| 03:26.57 | jp-- | since I backlisted it and it still loads it |
| 03:27.55 | *** join/#debian Jguy (~jguy@c-67-175-71-188.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 03:28.06 | *** join/#debian collabra (~collabra@c-24-22-90-7.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 03:28.32 | *** join/#debian ZiG|ZaG (~octane@96.26.255.123.static.snap.net.nz) |
| 03:28.42 | *** join/#debian cafuego (~cafuego@luv/committee/cafuego) |
| 03:28.44 | adb | !blacklist |
| 03:28.44 | dpkg | In lenny, etch and squeeze, create/edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf and add a line similar to this (without quotes): "blacklist module_name". If this doesn't work, do 'echo "install modulename /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf'. IMPORTANT: ask about <blacklist-initramfs>. To blacklist a module at installation time, ask me about <installer blacklist>. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting |
| 03:28.54 | adb | jp--, ^^ |
| 03:29.05 | *** part/#debian gewt (b4@ip-67-202-107-221.chicago-il.gewt.net) |
| 03:29.24 | jp-- | adb, omg, it feels so bad to get stuck this way man |
| 03:29.28 | *** part/#debian reisio (~reisio@unaffiliated/reisio) |
| 03:29.42 | jp-- | powerless. |
| 03:30.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 03:30.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 03:31.55 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 03:32.05 | jp-- | adb, omg, I found out there's a config file with the modules that are loaded on every startup, so no need to recompile kernel |
| 03:32.58 | jp-- | config in /boot |
| 03:32.59 | jp-- | haha :) |
| 03:33.13 | jp-- | so I just commented the tricky modules! |
| 03:33.17 | jp-- | gonna reboot it now. |
| 03:33.53 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 03:35.41 | karlpinc | !tell jp-- about blacklist |
| 03:36.01 | *** join/#debian rue_house (~rue@24.207.119.38) |
| 03:36.03 | *** join/#debian res22 (~res22@pdpc/supporter/student/res22) |
| 03:36.17 | rue_house | how do I make a system NOT load a module on boot, only if I manually insert it? |
| 03:37.18 | karlpinc | !tell rue_house about blacklist |
| 03:37.37 | karlpinc | rue_house: Or at least that's a start. It's all I know about it. |
| 03:38.08 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 03:38.29 | jp-- | why, if I do: shutdown -r now, the drive keeps getting errors that get fixed by fsck with a reboot, argh. |
| 03:38.40 | jp-- | I just don't know how to stop it umount it bad or something |
| 03:38.58 | jp-- | what should I do? do a "sync" before shutdown -r now? |
| 03:39.58 | karlpinc | jp--: It should unmount by itself as part of the shutdown process. What do the logs say? |
| 03:40.06 | jp-- | hmm |
| 03:40.12 | jp-- | i'm gonna look at them |
| 03:40.25 | *** join/#debian `deb (~relax@2002:ad22:87df:0:cce5:c5b0:4dde:7d0a) |
| 03:40.58 | jp-- | I'm at /var/log |
| 03:41.09 | jp-- | where is that kind of log supposed to be karlpinc? |
| 03:42.25 | karlpinc | jp--: Probably messages. |
| 03:42.52 | *** join/#debian OldParr (~wayuu@unaffiliated/oldparr) |
| 03:43.32 | jp-- | anyway I still can't get sound, I unloaded those drivers and alsamixer is still showing me the HDMI audio output, I need to get audio first, so gonna go for that now... thanks karlpinc |
| 03:43.45 | *** join/#debian hochron (~ringo@adsl-76-208-70-118.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:44.21 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 03:44.56 | OldParr | i interrupted aptitude now it says i must run manually "dpkg --configure -a" , how do i do i fix it? |
| 03:45.03 | *** join/#debian lipsin_ (~lipsin@unaffiliated/lipsin) |
| 03:45.37 | *** join/#debian Holborn (~holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 03:45.38 | adb | run "dpkg --configure -a" |
| 03:46.00 | *** join/#debian gentgeen__ (~kevin@c-98-236-71-64.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 03:46.02 | hochron | I dont have an entry for my dvd_rw drive in /etc/mtab. it reads cds and dvd (except dvd+rw discs) do I need an entry? |
| 03:47.43 | OldParr | is there any WYSIWYG html editor in debian repositories? |
| 03:48.02 | adb | nano .. |
| 03:48.51 | karlpinc | OldParr: Tons. bluefish comes to mind. Install debtags and use "aptitude search '~Ghtml'" or some such to search. |
| 03:48.53 | *** join/#debian Vasistha (~david@unaffiliated/vasistha) |
| 03:49.56 | Vasistha | I want to send an email that I have prepared in MIME format. It has content-type multipart so I need to specify that header. How can I do this? |
| 03:50.00 | karlpinc | hochron: /etc/mtab is only for mounted filesystems. Many apps read the raw device and don't mount cds/dvds to play multi-media. |
| 03:50.12 | *** join/#debian j_laux (~jake@fl-67-232-63-168.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 03:50.57 | karlpinc | Vasistha: I use metamail. There are other choices. Most any gui mail client will work. |
| 03:52.02 | WaterRatj | How can I clean my /usr/share folder to remove all files not needed? |
| 03:52.07 | Vasistha | karlpinc: It's multipart message with both text and html parts that I have specified. afaik gui email clients don't usually support that |
| 03:52.52 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 03:53.01 | *** join/#debian nelf (~nelf@bl5-45-29.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 03:53.18 | *** join/#debian oconnore_ (~oconnore_@c-66-31-125-56.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 03:53.33 | Vasistha | I know how to send an email with an attachment using mailx. However I don't know how to specify an arbitrary header (content-type) using mailx |
| 03:54.41 | Vasistha | I know that mailx uses sendmail (exim) and I've found instructions for sending an email in exim, however I don't know how to specify my smtp auth directly for sendmail... mailx takes care of that for me |
| 03:54.58 | *** join/#debian corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) |
| 03:55.04 | Vasistha | I also know how to specify headers when mailing through php, but again I don't know how to set up the smtp auth stuff for php |
| 03:55.08 | OldParr | karlpinc: what does the '~' character does in "aptitude search '~Ghtml'" ? |
| 03:55.44 | Vasistha | kmail won't sent multipart html messages. I've been googling for over 2 hours now ... why is this so difficult? |
| 03:56.03 | *** join/#debian oconnore_ (~oconnore_@c-66-31-125-56.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 03:59.05 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 03:59.40 | *** part/#debian ScribbleJ (~ScribbleJ@99-35-164-204.lightspeed.dwgvil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:00.01 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 04:00.01 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 04:00.38 | *** join/#debian Belial` (~joe@c-68-47-17-131.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 04:02.24 | *** join/#debian krisfremen (~Kris@unaffiliated/krisfremen) |
| 04:02.26 | krisfremen | hey all |
| 04:02.38 | *** join/#debian Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427671.home.otenet.gr) |
| 04:02.43 | krisfremen | i was wondering how to change the update-alternatives for gqview? |
| 04:02.54 | krisfremen | update-alternatives containes nothing about it |
| 04:03.21 | *** join/#debian |dinya_| (~Denis@188.17.92.192) |
| 04:04.31 | *** join/#debian holycow (~new@mail.fredcanhelp.com) |
| 04:04.48 | *** join/#debian h-okada (~h-okada@CTS210191150083.cts.ne.jp) |
| 04:05.24 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 04:05.59 | rue_house | am I not right that the blacklist only applies to module aliases? |
| 04:06.15 | rue_house | what if the kernel is loading the module, how do i control that? custom kernel? |
| 04:06.41 | *** join/#debian McGo (~McGo@host-091-097-125-148.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 04:06.55 | *** join/#debian linuxwizard (~linuxwiza@c-98-213-218-31.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 04:09.15 | *** join/#debian DanDare (~DanDare@189.59.204.206) |
| 04:09.30 | *** join/#debian Cain` (~Geek@unaffiliated/cain) |
| 04:09.44 | *** join/#debian gimbal (~gimbal@ip-24-137-132-10.midstate.ip.cablemo.net) |
| 04:09.54 | *** join/#debian binari0 (~carmen@190.80.153.209) |
| 04:10.19 | gimbal | anyone seen a howto on replacing iceweasel with firefox? firefox is more up-to-date |
| 04:10.33 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 04:11.06 | DanDare | gimbal, I think you can just get firefox sources and compile ? |
| 04:11.06 | gimbal | tried installing firefox download locally, but for some reason (probably something buried in upsteram deb prefs config I guess) when I run the 'firefox' bin I still get iceweael, in iceweasel's current version |
| 04:11.18 | *** join/#debian lom (~lom@188-22-166-76.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 04:11.42 | DanDare | gimbal, so if you uninstall iceweasel ? |
| 04:11.46 | gimbal | DanDare: well, I've got a precompiled pkg from the mozilla project, I'd like to think that would save me some steps if it would just work as intended once compiled |
| 04:12.02 | DanDare | gimbal, fair enought |
| 04:12.07 | gimbal | DanDare: I suppose I could, huh, not sure if I want to though. I'd like to be able to have 'em both installed simultaneously |
| 04:12.35 | DanDare | gimbal, uninstall it for test purpose, maybe this way it produce more verbose you can check |
| 04:13.21 | gimbal | ah, not necessarily an option. I won't uninstall it until I'll be sure I'll have been able to sucessfully migrate my bookmarks and add-on selections |
| 04:13.40 | gimbal | it's of more than trivial significance to me, heh. |
| 04:13.57 | karlpinc | gimbal: Install firefox from mozilla as usual, and then fuss with update-alternatives. |
| 04:14.15 | gimbal | yeah if it was clear what alternatives I have to update, that would be easy I bet |
| 04:14.35 | gimbal | alright nevermind I'll just let it be |
| 04:14.43 | karlpinc | gimbal: Well, there's one called mozilla. That seems clear enough. |
| 04:15.42 | WaterRatj | Is dbus needed? |
| 04:15.47 | *** join/#debian raegis (~rsmith@user-3c2h199.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 04:16.01 | karlpinc | WaterRatj: If you run a gui desktop, and maybe otherwise. |
| 04:16.29 | karlpinc | WaterRatj: You could uninstall it and see what else goes away.... |
| 04:16.34 | WaterRatj | k |
| 04:16.59 | karlpinc | WaterRatj: Keep records. You'll likely want to undo. |
| 04:17.41 | DanDare | well. I just executed 'rkhunter -c' on Lenny, and got already a '/bin/login [WARNING]' |
| 04:17.45 | DanDare | what to do now?! |
| 04:17.56 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 04:18.20 | DanDare | damn, getting lot of warnings on '/sbin' content |
| 04:19.09 | raegis | Can the version of Gnome-Do in Lenny support search tool features, like Tracker? |
| 04:19.15 | *** join/#debian Belial` (~joe@c-68-47-17-131.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 04:20.39 | *** join/#debian no_Dat (~dercovice@125.161.2.43) |
| 04:20.54 | Vasistha | How do I specify additional headers for mailx to send when sending a message? It used to be -a but now -a is used for attachments, and I can't find a replacement |
| 04:22.09 | *** join/#debian shingouz (shingouz@84-231-119-42.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 04:22.30 | *** join/#debian mypapit_ (~mypapit@60.53.75.177) |
| 04:22.40 | *** join/#debian gimbal (~gimbal@ip-24-137-132-10.midstate.ip.cablemo.net) |
| 04:23.07 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 04:23.18 | gimbal | just wanted to chime-in the firefox thing. I thought about it for a sec then remembered the presence of the FIREFOX_HOME env. var. Setting it to the root directory where I've installed ff locally, then running the 'firefox' bin from that insallation, it works |
| 04:23.35 | *** join/#debian acathur (~acathur@unaffiliated/acathur) |
| 04:24.04 | karlpinc | Vasistha: If your going that far you may as well just manually write the whole email and invoke sendmail -t. |
| 04:24.33 | Vasistha | karlpinc: I would be more than happy to do that, but how do I specify the smtp authentication stuff for sendmail? |
| 04:25.06 | nsadmin | gimbal: firefox (by that name) is not present in debian... it's not going to help folks that install the renamed one from the official debian package |
| 04:25.54 | *** join/#debian erk (~MrEd@about/apple/iPod/BeZerk) |
| 04:26.03 | nsadmin | having said that, I'm not sure what percentage install firefox and what percentage install iceweasel |
| 04:26.52 | gimbal | er, that's MOZILLA_HOME duhhehh |
| 04:29.06 | DanDare | whatĆĀ“s best way to perform a CRC check on each file of system and compare with the originals on packages ? |
| 04:29.19 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 04:30.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 04:30.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 04:32.14 | *** join/#debian astralvoute (~astravout@modemcable120.138-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 04:35.30 | *** join/#debian RoBz` (robz@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 04:35.58 | *** join/#debian hochron (~ringo@adsl-76-208-70-118.dsl.mdsnwi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:36.33 | *** join/#debian TrueDD (~truedd@unaffiliated/truedd) |
| 04:37.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 766] by debhelper |
| 04:38.59 | OldParr | karlpinc: what does the '~' character does in "aptitude search '~Ghtml'" ? |
| 04:39.11 | *** join/#debian andydam (~andydam@c-76-103-11-136.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 04:39.37 | karlpinc | OldParr: It tells aptitude the next char will tell it how to search. |
| 04:40.26 | karlpinc | OldParr: /usr/share/doc/aptitude/html/en/index.html |
| 04:40.52 | *** join/#debian Cueball (~lee@122.116.187.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 04:41.00 | karlpinc | DanDare: debsums |
| 04:41.45 | karlpinc | Vasistha: sendmail takes the mail on stdin. |
| 04:41.52 | *** join/#debian linuxwizard (~linuxwiza@c-98-213-218-31.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 04:42.20 | *** join/#debian nhandler_ (~nhandler@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nhandler) |
| 04:42.28 | Vasistha | karlpinc: but how do I specify smtp user, server, password? |
| 04:43.28 | DanDare | thanks karlpinc |
| 04:43.38 | karlpinc | Vasistha: You are giving it straight to the mta on your local machine, which is then responsible for delivery. So, configure your mta (sendmail, postfix, exim4, etc.) so that it delivers mail like it should and it'll work. |
| 04:44.33 | DanDare | debsums fast ! |
| 04:44.58 | Vasistha | karlpinc: I use mailx to send mail from different remote servers. I also have several email accounts set up in kmail and those are each able to send mail using different servers. That's what I need to do here, I don't want to set sendmail up to always use some server |
| 04:45.01 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.78) |
| 04:45.25 | *** join/#debian zophy (~sy@host-242-6-111-24-static.midco.net) |
| 04:45.37 | DanDare | hmm, getting stuff like "debsums: no md5sums for at | debsums: no md5sums for binutils" |
| 04:45.54 | Vasistha | karlpinc: the concept of "delivers mail like it should" is not applicable here. The way it "should" is the way I want it to right at this moment, and that could change tomorrow |
| 04:46.57 | karlpinc | Vasistha: mailx sends mail to only one server, afaik. How do you configure it to send mail via different servers? |
| 04:47.32 | Vasistha | karlpinc: with env MAILRC=somefile - and somefile specifies variables |
| 04:47.56 | *** join/#debian jp-- (~jp@68.232.84.41) |
| 04:48.17 | *** join/#debian keith4__ (~keith@216-164-144-176.c3-0.eas-ubr9.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) |
| 04:48.19 | Vasistha | karlpinc: e.g. set from=me@mydomain.zz; set smtp=mail.mydomain.zz; set smtp-auth=plain; etc |
| 04:48.26 | karlpinc | Vasistha: Ok. So do the same thing with your mta. Restart it with a different config if you want to relay via different servers. Or leave it to default to just delivering the mail. |
| 04:48.40 | DanDare | oh well "MD5 checksums aren't mandatory, so quite a few packages don't... We hope to change this for future releases, ..." |
| 04:49.02 | *** join/#debian iViLe (~bob@c114-76-23-136.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 04:49.08 | *** join/#debian erk (~MrEd@about/apple/iPod/BeZerk) |
| 04:49.39 | Vasistha | karlpinc: does mailx restart the mta in order to apply those directives? |
| 04:51.10 | *** join/#debian jpinx-eeepc (~johnp@122-57-87-32.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 04:51.10 | *** join/#debian nhandler (~nhandler@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nhandler) |
| 04:51.23 | karlpinc | Vasistha: mailx talks smtp so does not have to restart the server. mtas normally run as daemons, and must be restarted (as a rule) to pick up config changes. (Postfix will do this automatically without restart, but without a guarenteed latency.) You may be able to run an mta that does not daemonize (say, sendmail itself) and so it "restarts" every time you invoke it, just like mailx. |
| 04:51.36 | *** join/#debian the_lalelu (~lalelu@the-real.org) |
| 04:52.04 | *** join/#debian Cain (~Geek@unaffiliated/cain) |
| 04:52.07 | Vasistha | karlpinc: ahha! I had thought that mailx was using sendmail to do the sending but you're saying it's not? |
| 04:52.07 | karlpinc | Vasistha: Of course if you don't run your mta as a daemon, it won't be able to retry delivery in the event of failure. But you've already that problem with mailx. |
| 04:52.49 | karlpinc | Vasistha: Mailx does by default. But when you use the smtp config directive you're telling it to talk to a remote server. (As I gather from a glance at the man page.) |
| 04:53.02 | *** part/#debian keith4__ (~keith@216-164-144-176.c3-0.eas-ubr9.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) |
| 04:54.47 | karlpinc | Vasistha: The "safe" choice is to use an mta. That's why they exist. But there are reasons not to, mostly because of crippled Internet connections. |
| 04:55.12 | nsadmin | mailx is an MUA tho |
| 04:55.53 | karlpinc | nsadmin: He seems to want to do the work of the mua, constructing the email, mime-ing parts of it, etc., by "hand". |
| 04:56.27 | nsadmin | he should look into the perl MIME stuff then |
| 04:56.38 | *** part/#debian OldParr (~wayuu@unaffiliated/oldparr) |
| 04:56.58 | Vasistha | why, oh why, oh why, oh why, oh why is this so fucking difficult. All I want to do is send a multipart/alternatives text + html message, but ... I just can't figure out how to do it in any kind of reasonable way. I think php is working now, though, I guess I should just give up on being philosophically happy and go with what works |
| 04:57.52 | nsadmin | php is probably hopelessly behind perl's modules; again, you should look into them |
| 04:58.03 | karlpinc | Vasistha: Maybe if you told us what problem you are trying to solve we'd be better at helping. |
| 04:58.40 | karlpinc | Vasistha: I still don't know what you mean by "send". I use balsa. It'll do that just fine (I think. I never tried to have it html-ize.) |
| 04:58.56 | karlpinc | Not that I like balsa. |
| 04:59.02 | karlpinc | Overmuch. |
| 04:59.07 | nsadmin | personally I have no idea why it's difficult because a coupla things... one, I have no idea what your background is, and two, I'm playing a gig tonite... seeya :) |
| 04:59.40 | Vasistha | I have a mime-encoded message. It's all ready to go. I can send it using mailx, BUT it doesn't work because I need to add a content-type header with the boundary. |
| 04:59.54 | Vasistha | thanks anyway, guys, I got it working in php so that's just gonna be it. |
| 04:59.56 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 04:59.59 | *** join/#debian zink (~zink@pc-151-229-100-190.cm.vtr.net) |
| 05:00.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 05:00.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 05:00.04 | karlpinc | Vasistha: I use emacs mail mode for that sort of stuff. |
| 05:01.01 | *** join/#debian shogunx (~shogunx@2001:4978:106:1:211:d8ff:fe4e:bacc) |
| 05:07.57 | *** join/#debian soratofx (~soratofx@189.148.9.146) |
| 05:08.06 | *** join/#debian Rusty1 (~Rusty1@cpe-72-226-104-57.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 05:10.01 | *** join/#debian johnson_b (~johnson_b@mintaka.lynchburg.edu) |
| 05:11.44 | *** join/#debian enyawix (~enyawix@adsl-179-2-60.bna.bellsouth.net) |
| 05:12.25 | enyawix | how do I get the kernel .conf it is not in /proc |
| 05:13.00 | enyawix | I am finding development to be hard on debian |
| 05:13.13 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 05:13.27 | jamon | enyawix: /boot |
| 05:13.34 | enyawix | om |
| 05:13.42 | jamon | should be a config-foo where foo matches uname -r |
| 05:14.44 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@87.254.69.224) |
| 05:14.44 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@unaffiliated/mentor) |
| 05:14.52 | enyawix | thanks jamon I am back to work |
| 05:14.58 | jamon | ;) |
| 05:15.10 | sensae | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:15.10 | sensae | ]\ |
| 05:17.45 | *** join/#debian daya (~daya@113.199.141.144) |
| 05:26.51 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 05:27.37 | *** join/#debian idoru (idoru@freenode/utility-bot/ex-server/idoru) |
| 05:27.51 | *** join/#debian Amorphous (jan@unaffiliated/amorphous) |
| 05:29.11 | *** join/#debian echosystm (~echosystm@ppp118-210-159-71.lns20.adl6.internode.on.net) |
| 05:29.26 | echosystm | does anyone know of a good panel to use with openbox, thats in the debian stable repo? |
| 05:29.36 | echosystm | all the usual ones (tint2, etc.) arent there |
| 05:30.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 05:30.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 05:30.58 | boxxertrumps | 5th element was awesome |
| 05:31.24 | boxxertrumps | thanks again nooper |
| 05:31.52 | *** join/#debian beawesomeinstead (~beawesome@unaffiliated/beawesomeinstead) |
| 05:32.07 | j_laux | did you ever see starship troopers? |
| 05:32.08 | j_laux | :D |
| 05:32.23 | boxxertrumps | not the whole thing through |
| 05:32.47 | j_laux | I just liked dina meyer :D |
| 05:32.54 | j_laux | dizz |
| 05:33.24 | *** join/#debian nervousTwitch (~user@173-16-149-43.client.mchsi.com) |
| 05:34.04 | *** join/#debian LtL (~bob@znc.siliconwolves.net) |
| 05:35.25 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 05:37.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 773] by debhelper |
| 05:37.13 | boxxertrumps | hmm, reminds me of my stepmother |
| 05:39.07 | macrobat | echosystm: lxpanel, fbpanel, fspanel, perpanel. bmpanel seems not to be in lenny |
| 05:41.30 | adb | macrobat, at list lxpanel is - a lightweight desktop panel for X |
| 05:41.31 | *** join/#debian no_Dat (~dercovice@125.161.2.43) |
| 05:42.26 | WaterRatj | I installed a minimal installtion , how do i find my usb when i plug it in from Command line? |
| 05:43.18 | macrobat | WaterRatj: look in /dev or use lsusb or dmesg |
| 05:43.25 | adb | dmesg | tail |
| 05:43.58 | WaterRatj | ok and how do i mount it? |
| 05:44.31 | adb | what's 'my usb' ? |
| 05:44.57 | WaterRatj | usbstick |
| 05:45.21 | adb | mount /dev/usbstick /media/disk |
| 05:45.34 | *** join/#debian idoru (idoru@freenode/utility-bot/ex-server/idoru) |
| 05:46.02 | adb | if not done already by system |
| 05:46.07 | *** part/#debian soratofx (~soratofx@189.148.9.146) |
| 05:46.27 | adb | check before /media/disk |
| 05:46.42 | WaterRatj | i did no /media/disk |
| 05:46.49 | macrobat | you can install pmount and mount it as a normal user |
| 05:47.24 | *** join/#debian sensae (~sensae@c-24-10-33-82.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 05:49.40 | adb | WaterRatj, run 'id' and check if are in plugdev group, too |
| 05:51.23 | *** join/#debian montyboy (~james@adsl-99-30-135-5.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 05:51.46 | WaterRatj | i mounted okay, but problem is, i'm mounting that usbstick cause it has a firmware for my wireless stick, so i installed the firmware and did modprobe, but i'm getting a error on that |
| 05:52.42 | j_laux | anyone chatty? |
| 05:52.46 | j_laux | I'm a bored insomniac |
| 05:52.47 | j_laux | :D |
| 05:53.25 | adb | j_laux, -> #debian-offtopic |
| 05:55.25 | montyboy | j_laux, i'd chat with you but i'm watching a net-install.... |
| 05:55.31 | montyboy | ;) |
| 05:56.15 | WaterRatj | Why does it give error now? when i used it before with no problems? |
| 05:56.17 | *** join/#debian dinya (Denis@79.141.59.38) |
| 05:56.57 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~project25@86.51.114.210) |
| 06:00.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 06:00.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 06:06.53 | *** join/#debian oblu (~oblu@ip-89-103-168-220.karneval.cz) |
| 06:07.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 767] by debhelper |
| 06:07.31 | *** join/#debian no_Dat (~dercovice@125.161.2.43) |
| 06:15.40 | *** join/#debian Belial` (~joe@c-68-47-17-131.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 06:16.02 | *** join/#debian idoru (idoru@freenode/utility-bot/ex-server/idoru) |
| 06:16.51 | *** join/#debian Rezagrats (~Adam@host-69-59-100-213.nctv.com) |
| 06:17.18 | *** join/#debian Mr_Deffy (~Deffy@24-183-188-133.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) |
| 06:17.52 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 06:18.24 | *** join/#debian raman (~raman@89.165.92.219) |
| 06:18.26 | enyawix | night |
| 06:18.37 | *** join/#debian jarick (timgoh0@unaffiliated/timgoh0) |
| 06:19.00 | *** join/#debian thejaymz (~thejaymz@adsl-068-017-110-231.sip.mob.bellsouth.net) |
| 06:19.18 | *** join/#debian sakku (~sanal@117.196.132.205) |
| 06:19.36 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~project25@86.51.114.210) |
| 06:19.44 | *** join/#debian mee (~d9da2c25@gateway/web/freenode/x-tiksdqkzkwooaues) |
| 06:20.40 | *** part/#debian raman (~raman@89.165.92.219) |
| 06:20.57 | *** join/#debian erk (~MrEd@about/apple/iPod/BeZerk) |
| 06:21.00 | *** join/#debian Belial` (~joe@c-68-47-17-131.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 06:23.25 | *** join/#debian sysrqalt (~sysrqalt@75-135-76-28.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 06:25.18 | *** join/#debian xingu (~xingu@cl-1387.ams-04.nl.sixxs.net) |
| 06:25.31 | *** join/#debian sysrqalt (~sysrqalt@75-135-76-28.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 06:26.33 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~project25@86.51.114.210) |
| 06:27.04 | *** part/#debian jarick (timgoh0@unaffiliated/timgoh0) |
| 06:27.47 | *** join/#debian hardbop200 (~josh@pdpc/supporter/student/hardbop200) |
| 06:30.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 06:30.01 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 06:31.08 | *** join/#debian kyrix (~ashley@41.92.5.28) |
| 06:32.14 | *** join/#debian Deffie (~deffie@host223-249-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 06:35.58 | hardbop200 | DEBIAN!!! |
| 06:36.06 | hardbop200 | my laptop sucks |
| 06:36.14 | hardbop200 | I want to whine to the internet |
| 06:36.39 | hardbop200 | unforutnately, no one seems to be up |
| 06:36.42 | Tux^verdreifelt | lol |
| 06:37.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 759] by debhelper |
| 06:37.02 | hardbop200 | Tux^verdreifelt: thank you. berate me if you must, but please talk to me |
| 06:37.37 | hardbop200 | but my laptop sucks |
| 06:37.37 | *** join/#debian jhb1608 (~jason@173-86-67-53.bras0-epix.clsm.pa.frontiernet.net) |
| 06:37.37 | jhb1608 | How do I fix the display issues in Debian PPC? |
| 06:38.23 | Tux^verdreifelt | hmm i can't make your laptop stop sucking |
| 06:38.36 | hardbop200 | how can I get attention in a deibna room? |
| 06:38.43 | hardbop200 | debian room... |
| 06:38.47 | hardbop200 | oh I know... |
| 06:38.54 | Tux^verdreifelt | hmm, say something about ubuntu :P |
| 06:38.57 | *** join/#debian corretico (~laguilar@201.201.46.106) |
| 06:38.59 | hardbop200 | UBUNTU RULEZ |
| 06:40.14 | *** join/#debian Josh`` (~fuxxy@c-98-201-31-24.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 06:40.36 | jhb1608 | Guess the people don't read my question -_- |
| 06:40.52 | Josh`` | Can anyone help me get a working nvidia driver installed with my new GTX 285? |
| 06:41.14 | *** join/#debian acathur (~acathur@unaffiliated/acathur) |
| 06:41.33 | montyboy | Josh``, grab the drivers from their site |
| 06:42.14 | Josh`` | montyboy: then I get GCC related errors, I think lenny has an older version of GCC than nvidia used to build their module |
| 06:42.19 | montyboy | Josh``, then http://www.pendrivelinux.com/how-to-install-nvidia-video-card-drivers-in-debian-lenny/ |
| 06:42.23 | montyboy | ok, that's fine |
| 06:42.28 | Josh`` | whoo, awesome |
| 06:42.48 | montyboy | Josh``, it's complaining about gcc 4.4 |
| 06:42.54 | montyboy | Josh``, right? |
| 06:42.55 | jhb1608 | I justi nstalled Debian PPC and it works, but it generate the xorg error. |
| 06:43.10 | Josh`` | montyboy: I don't remember the exact version, but it was 4.something |
| 06:43.51 | montyboy | Josh``, yeah, just change the symlink to gcc 4.3 |
| 06:44.46 | jhb1608 | my computer is 700MHz eMac, it have 40GB and 1GB RAM, help me fix the Xorg error? |
| 06:45.39 | montyboy | Josh``, actually, you have to go grab gcc-4.3 then change the symlink in /usr/bin so gcc points to gcc-4.3 |
| 06:45.52 | jhb1608 | I am trying ot fix it :| |
| 06:45.58 | montyboy | Josh``, well, that's what i did to make it work - i am sure there are a milion other ways too |
| 06:46.10 | jhb1608 | I can get in the textm ode, but not GUI mode. |
| 06:46.14 | Josh`` | montyboy: "compiler used to compile the kernel (GCC 4.1) does not match the current compiler, (GCC 4.3) |
| 06:46.32 | montyboy | Josh``, what driver revision is that? |
| 06:46.48 | Josh`` | 190.53, latest available on nvidia's website |
| 06:47.12 | montyboy | Josh``, same thing, just go grab gcc-4.1 from the repos |
| 06:47.38 | *** join/#debian R430R (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 06:48.02 | *** join/#debian roe_ (~admin@smtp.harmonytownshipschool.org) |
| 06:48.09 | Josh`` | montyboy: 4.1 is apparently already installed |
| 06:48.17 | Josh`` | How do I switch it? |
| 06:48.24 | jhb1608 | how do I configure the xorg.conf in text mode on my eMac? |
| 06:48.26 | Josh`` | 3.1 rather |
| 06:48.41 | roe_ | I am having trouble booting into an LVM from LILO, it is dumping me to an initfs shell |
| 06:48.43 | Josh`` | jhb1608: nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 06:49.25 | montyboy | Josh``, testing , stable? what are you running |
| 06:49.54 | Josh`` | montyboy: stable |
| 06:51.21 | jhb1608 | Josh' when I'm done editting how do I save it? |
| 06:51.38 | Josh`` | aha, I think I got it now, with a bit of creative googling |
| 06:51.45 | montyboy | Josh``, apt-get install gcc-4.1 |
| 06:51.49 | Josh`` | jhb1608: Ctrl+O |
| 06:52.07 | Josh`` | montyboy: it's already installed. just changed the environment variable and ran the script |
| 06:52.28 | montyboy | Josh``, that works too - always more than one way to skin the cat |
| 06:52.32 | Josh`` | didn't pop that error message this time. we'll see if it works. |
| 06:52.40 | Josh`` | montyboy: creative googling ftw :) |
| 06:53.19 | Josh`` | woot! |
| 06:53.26 | Josh`` | tysk |
| 06:53.29 | Josh`` | tysM |
| 06:53.43 | *** join/#debian ia (~ia@89.169.161.244) |
| 06:54.03 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 06:54.09 | *** join/#debian hakr (bryan@element.techlive.tv) |
| 06:55.03 | roe_ | is there a debian way to regenerate my initrd? |
| 06:55.20 | Josh`` | Now I've got GIGANTIC icons, even though I'm running at 1920x1080 |
| 06:59.38 | *** join/#debian joneal (~we6jbo@cpe-66-75-229-230.san.res.rr.com) |
| 07:00.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 07:00.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 07:00.49 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 07:02.42 | *** join/#debian [biabia] (~b@76.249.44.57) |
| 07:02.59 | *** join/#debian jhb1608 (~ubuntu@173-86-67-53.bras0-epix.clsm.pa.frontiernet.net) |
| 07:03.02 | *** part/#debian jhb1608 (~ubuntu@173-86-67-53.bras0-epix.clsm.pa.frontiernet.net) |
| 07:03.07 | *** join/#debian R430R_ALT (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 07:03.37 | *** join/#debian jhb1608 (~ubuntu@173-86-67-53.bras0-epix.clsm.pa.frontiernet.net) |
| 07:03.39 | Josh`` | Okay, frustrating. I'm running at 1920x1080, but my windows open up HUGE and the panel, icons, and text are all also HUGE |
| 07:03.52 | *** part/#debian nervousTwitch (~user@173-16-149-43.client.mchsi.com) |
| 07:04.01 | jhb1608 | Josh'', can you tell me the edititng of xorg again? |
| 07:04.12 | jhb1608 | my keyboard keep freezing lol |
| 07:04.20 | Josh`` | jhb1608: nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 07:06.45 | *** join/#debian sylarr (~sylarrrr@bzq-109-65-29-244.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 07:10.24 | *** join/#debian bangae (~dskj@89.232.105.7) |
| 07:14.15 | *** join/#debian babilen_zzz (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 07:14.59 | jhb1608 | ok now it say File name to write |
| 07:15.02 | jhb1608 | press enter? |
| 07:15.08 | *** join/#debian Carnophage (~carno@dynamic-87-105-160-76.ssp.dialog.net.pl) |
| 07:15.10 | *** join/#debian vizzy (~vizzy@p54B1BB1C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:15.15 | jhb1608 | oh permission denied |
| 07:15.17 | jhb1608 | hm. |
| 07:15.17 | *** join/#debian ChildOfGod (~debayan@59.164.102.80) |
| 07:15.44 | jhb1608 | ok how do I save .conf file? |
| 07:15.49 | montyboy | jhb1608, make sure you open it with root level permissions (sudo or login as root) |
| 07:16.03 | jhb1608 | ugh |
| 07:16.19 | jhb1608 | I don't want ot retype everything again >.> |
| 07:16.24 | montyboy | jhb1608, you can save it to your home directory |
| 07:16.29 | jhb1608 | I can't |
| 07:16.31 | jhb1608 | I'm on nano |
| 07:16.32 | jhb1608 | :P |
| 07:16.50 | *** join/#debian iViLe (~bob@c114-76-23-136.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 07:16.58 | jhb1608 | I'm on textm ode |
| 07:17.19 | *** join/#debian sysrqalt (~sysrqalt@75-135-76-28.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 07:18.55 | *** join/#debian verblendet (~vizzy@p54B1BE8E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:20.25 | *** join/#debian Gilde (~Gilde@dslb-092-076-140-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 07:22.54 | *** join/#debian kupesoft (~dave@unaffiliated/kupesoft) |
| 07:24.16 | *** join/#debian abadr (~abadr@adsl-76-236-71-185.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 07:24.46 | *** join/#debian Rezagrats (~Adam@host-69-59-100-213.nctv.com) |
| 07:25.52 | abadr | It seems like it might be wrong that this page is not in English http://wiki.debian.org/Ejabberd_Configuration |
| 07:26.26 | abadr | since other pages on this wiki seem to be namespaced by locale |
| 07:27.25 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 07:29.35 | *** join/#debian ravenbird (simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn/bot/ravenbird) |
| 07:30.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 07:30.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 07:31.08 | *** join/#debian sysrqalt (~sysrqalt@75-135-76-28.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 07:31.12 | *** part/#debian jhb1608 (~ubuntu@173-86-67-53.bras0-epix.clsm.pa.frontiernet.net) |
| 07:31.20 | *** join/#debian K0JIbKA (~nikobit@81.91.189.3) |
| 07:31.32 | *** join/#debian ga_bash (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) |
| 07:31.42 | *** join/#debian collabra (~collabra@c-24-22-90-7.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 07:31.47 | *** join/#debian pierrep (~ppasteau@ram94-4-82-227-155-25.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 07:33.23 | *** join/#debian cahoot (~radix@82.183.196.76) |
| 07:33.24 | *** join/#debian cahoot (~radix@pdpc/supporter/active/cahoot) |
| 07:34.36 | *** join/#debian Wooga_tc (~user@212.45.19.99) |
| 07:35.56 | *** join/#debian sysrqalt (~sysrqalt@75-135-76-28.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 07:38.31 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 07:42.26 | WaterRatj | Anyone know where i can gt some help with my hard drives? |
| 07:43.20 | sep | ibas |
| 07:43.53 | sep | that is ibas.com |
| 07:44.32 | collabra | lol |
| 07:46.51 | *** join/#debian [biabia] (~b@adsl-76-249-44-57.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 07:47.57 | collabra | WaterRatj : i'll try,... no guarantee,... what's your problem? |
| 07:49.22 | WaterRatj | hard drive error lol :p |
| 07:49.25 | *** join/#debian babilen_zzz (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 07:49.52 | collabra | did www.ibas.com help? lol. |
| 07:49.58 | *** join/#debian R430R (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 07:54.50 | *** join/#debian Firestarter (~Firestart@cpe-24-29-75-91.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 07:55.31 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 07:57.20 | *** join/#debian imganquan (~ganquan@58.42.160.28) |
| 07:57.31 | *** join/#debian Roma_39m (~mirc@93-40-112-29.ip38.fastwebnet.it) |
| 07:58.42 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~project25@86.51.114.108) |
| 07:59.17 | *** join/#debian R430R (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 07:59.22 | *** join/#debian majhool (~mrw@user-118bgr6.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 08:00.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 08:00.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 08:00.06 | *** join/#debian ZiG|ZaG (~octane@96.26.255.123.static.snap.net.nz) |
| 08:00.46 | *** join/#debian Roma_39m (~mirc@93-40-112-29.ip38.fastwebnet.it) |
| 08:02.33 | *** join/#debian poonj (~poonj@c-67-160-202-249.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 08:03.47 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 08:05.04 | *** join/#debian TiMiDo (~deb@unaffiliated/student) |
| 08:06.52 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-210.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 08:06.53 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 08:07.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 765] by debhelper |
| 08:07.27 | *** join/#debian Phasy13 (~Dmitry@80.233.231.12) |
| 08:10.49 | *** join/#debian Azrael_- (~awef@p4FFF755C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 08:11.14 | *** join/#debian R430R (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 08:12.27 | *** join/#debian superlinux (~oracle@63.216.126.252) |
| 08:12.31 | superlinux | hi all |
| 08:13.34 | *** join/#debian derchris (~derchris@78-86-128-162.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 08:13.51 | *** join/#debian allisterb (~allisterb@cuscon121847.tstt.net.tt) |
| 08:14.19 | *** join/#debian Lorvija (~lorvija@77.109.220.239) |
| 08:14.24 | superlinux | There is a program that I'd love enlisting it in the default package list of Debian. what should I do? |
| 08:15.42 | superlinux | This program can turn the smart phone to a web camera |
| 08:16.05 | *** join/#debian Tiffon (~name@unaffiliated/tiff0n) |
| 08:16.14 | superlinux | can be used with skype too |
| 08:16.28 | collabra | http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ |
| 08:17.06 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.77) |
| 08:18.04 | collabra | http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/new-maintainer.html |
| 08:19.52 | *** join/#debian bbelt16ag (~bbelt16ag@19.180.101.97.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 08:21.36 | superlinux | collabra, it's not my project at all. all I want is to make it in the list. |
| 08:22.15 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 08:22.19 | *** join/#debian daya (~daya@113.199.141.144) |
| 08:24.57 | collabra | superlinux: i gave you the information on how to become a developer.... i cant do anything else than that. |
| 08:25.10 | superlinux | ok |
| 08:25.14 | poonj | hey guys...anyone here install the ATI catalyst drivers? |
| 08:25.23 | poonj | on a debian squeeze system? |
| 08:25.44 | *** join/#debian roll (~roll@89.196.74.255) |
| 08:27.46 | *** join/#debian DeltaBlue (~Delta@ip70-161-104-53.hr.hr.cox.net) |
| 08:30.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 08:30.01 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 08:30.37 | WaterRatj | since i changed my resoluion in debian, my screen is flickring alot, even when i'm not in linux and running windows |
| 08:31.00 | *** join/#debian syn-ack (~meskes@unaffiliated/syn-ack) |
| 08:31.21 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@cli44-1-78-228-102-148.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:31.27 | DeltaBlue | could anyone give me advice using rivendell on debian? I have no sound. |
| 08:31.56 | *** join/#debian ealdor (~ealdor@204.Red-83-52-111.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 08:32.53 | *** join/#debian Backup (backup@110100100.wikipotica.info) |
| 08:32.54 | collabra | WaterRatj: id check my cables |
| 08:33.18 | WaterRatj | did like 4 times :p |
| 08:33.27 | *** join/#debian chichipongo (~chichipon@host165-7-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 08:33.42 | Backup | im running lenny stable amd64 and i got a nvidia 8600m gs card. im wondering if the kernel module drivers support shader model 2 or not? |
| 08:34.15 | *** join/#debian cabaire (~nobody@xdsl-87-78-209-21.netcologne.de) |
| 08:35.58 | *** join/#debian fantasticulous (~frog@85.122.81.58) |
| 08:36.05 | *** part/#debian DeltaBlue (~Delta@ip70-161-104-53.hr.hr.cox.net) |
| 08:37.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 772] by debhelper |
| 08:37.15 | *** join/#debian R430R (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 08:37.36 | *** join/#debian holmgren (~magnus@ua-85-227-1-26.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 08:37.38 | *** join/#debian darksierra (~sierra@3104ds4-ar.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 08:39.04 | *** part/#debian chichipongo (~chichipon@host165-7-dynamic.183-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 08:39.19 | *** join/#debian VladNistor (~nistor@89.137.106.107) |
| 08:39.34 | *** join/#debian R430R_ALT (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 08:40.48 | *** join/#debian balans (~BRPOLDB@82-170-215-5.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 08:41.25 | *** join/#debian kindix (~kindi@host-85-27-58-115.brutele.be) |
| 08:43.39 | *** join/#debian vizzord (~exn@195.49.206.202) |
| 08:44.52 | *** join/#debian tobago (~christian@unaffiliated/tobago) |
| 08:45.25 | *** join/#debian Meise (~MieMaMeis@port-92-204-103-90.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 08:47.47 | *** join/#debian kindix (~mustapha@host-85-27-58-115.brutele.be) |
| 08:48.08 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@cli44-1-78-228-102-148.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:48.33 | *** join/#debian rgr (foobar@85.183.18.158) |
| 08:49.45 | *** join/#debian Firestarter (~Firestart@cpe-24-29-75-91.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 08:49.50 | *** join/#debian Fizix (~Gluon@162.sub-75-198-159.myvzw.com) |
| 08:50.20 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 08:50.45 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@cli44-1-78-228-102-148.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:51.37 | *** join/#debian allisterb (~allisterb@cuscon123244.tstt.net.tt) |
| 08:52.53 | *** join/#debian Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427671.home.otenet.gr) |
| 08:53.26 | *** join/#debian Da_Wrecka (~da_wrecka@cpc4-live20-2-0-cust366.know.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 08:55.06 | *** join/#debian kindix (~kindix@host-85-27-58-115.brutele.be) |
| 08:56.13 | *** join/#debian aum (~aum@60-234-243-247.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) |
| 08:56.45 | aum | hi - what module do i need to load to get /dev/dv1394/0 to exist? |
| 08:56.50 | *** join/#debian Kuzavas (~www_xn--i@78-59-116-43.static.zebra.lt) |
| 08:57.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 779] by debhelper |
| 08:58.01 | *** join/#debian davyg (~davyg@dau94-9-88-178-191-172.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:58.52 | *** join/#debian [MONEY] (~TK@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 08:59.07 | *** join/#debian h-okada (~h-okada@CTS210191150083.cts.ne.jp) |
| 09:00.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 09:00.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 09:00.23 | *** join/#debian p0g0 (~pogo@unaffiliated/p0g0) |
| 09:01.00 | *** join/#debian jpinx-eeepc (~johnp@122-57-87-32.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 09:01.15 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@r2r157.net.upc.cz) |
| 09:05.38 | superlinux | aum, isn't that a firewire device? |
| 09:05.47 | aum | superlinux: yes |
| 09:05.48 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:06.38 | nsadmin | you don't load a module to get something that has some specific name, you load a module to support and let the kernel see and use a particular device |
| 09:06.55 | aum | i last used my firewire port 2 years ago, with an earlier kernel - i was able to play video out the 1394 port via ffmpeg to /dev/dv1394/0, but now /dev/dv1394/0 doesn't exist (on kernel 2.6.31.3 |
| 09:07.04 | superlinux | to look for all modules that has "1394" : modprobe -l *1394* |
| 09:07.29 | aum | i've tried loading dv1394, raw1394, core1394, but /dev/dv1394/0 doesn't get created |
| 09:07.47 | aum | with an earlier kernel, /dev/dv1394/0 used to get created |
| 09:07.56 | superlinux | aum, what exactly is your device? |
| 09:08.08 | nsadmin | what is its pci id |
| 09:08.24 | superlinux | have you googled to get the corresponding module? |
| 09:08.33 | aum | lspci says: |
| 09:08.33 | aum | 00:0b.3 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6306 Fire II IEEE 1394 OHCI Link Layer Controller (rev 46) |
| 09:08.46 | nsadmin | try lspci -nn |
| 09:08.54 | nsadmin | that will also show the pci ic |
| 09:08.58 | nsadmin | id |
| 09:09.08 | aum | 00:0b.3 FireWire (IEEE 1394) [0c00]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6306 Fire II IEEE 1394 OHCI Link Layer Controller [1106:3044] (rev 46) |
| 09:09.25 | aum | that same card used to work fine with earlier kernel |
| 09:09.29 | nsadmin | ,pciid 1106:3044 |
| 09:09.32 | judd | [1106:3044] is 'VT6306/7/8 [Fire II(M)] IEEE 1394 OHCI Controller' from 'VIA Technologies, Inc.' with no known kernel module in lenny or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1106:3044 |
| 09:10.03 | aum | older kernel supported it just fine |
| 09:10.23 | nsadmin | so what would be wrong with going to the older kernel? |
| 09:10.31 | *** join/#debian Firestarter (~Firestart@cpe-24-29-75-91.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 09:10.57 | aum | i don't like having to regress |
| 09:11.44 | nsadmin | that's unfortunate... in part, it means you're closed to the idea... in part, it also means this conversation is over |
| 09:11.53 | *** join/#debian lom_ (~lom@188-22-175-104.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 09:12.16 | aum | it is a shame if reverting to an earlier kernel version is the only way to get a device working |
| 09:13.14 | nsadmin | I'll leave you with this: you may be able to search for the driver on google. One thing that will be helpful is to know the exact drivers that supported you in the old kernel |
| 09:13.18 | *** join/#debian Matic`Makovec (~biggi_mat@193.77.138.57) |
| 09:13.28 | aum | nsadmin: ok, thanks for your leads |
| 09:13.56 | aum | just seems weird that the kernel developers have withdrawn support for a driver |
| 09:14.05 | nsadmin | other than that, you don't have to look at it as regression... you can look at this PROgression as a failed attempt |
| 09:14.30 | superlinux | could it be that this driver is not compiled? |
| 09:14.31 | nsadmin | maybe you could find out why they did so |
| 09:14.42 | *** join/#debian hab-keinen-name (~hab-keine@p54B4F491.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:14.49 | superlinux | not really withdrawn |
| 09:14.55 | nsadmin | maybe the support exists but is different |
| 09:14.57 | aum | i've compiled and loaded all the *1394* modules |
| 09:15.16 | nsadmin | like, you load the modules and you get something different in /dev |
| 09:15.41 | aum | i get /dev/raw1394 if i load raw1394 module |
| 09:15.55 | superlinux | aum, you can do the following.. see the difference between the lsmod of the old kernel with the new kernel |
| 09:16.02 | aum | superlinux: that's a thought |
| 09:16.14 | nsadmin | so... another point of research will be your present kernel's documentation to see what changes were made to that driver and to its interface to /dev |
| 09:16.23 | superlinux | see which additional modules you have to load |
| 09:17.03 | *** join/#debian abchirk (~abchirk@unaffiliated/abchirk) |
| 09:17.17 | nsadmin | you'll probably want to get the list of modules in a reasonable order, so I'd do lsmod | sort on each box |
| 09:17.33 | *** join/#debian punsad (~knoppix@c-67-170-184-170.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 09:17.36 | aum | according to debian device driver check & report, my PCI ID is supported by driver ohci1394 |
| 09:17.42 | *** join/#debian biggimat (~biggi_mat@193.77.138.57) |
| 09:17.52 | *** join/#debian LinkRage (~linkrage@92.247.202.231) |
| 09:18.02 | nsadmin | ok, so when you try that... |
| 09:18.05 | punsad | hello? |
| 09:18.19 | superlinux | aum, have you had ohci1394 loaded? |
| 09:18.25 | aum | of course |
| 09:18.39 | nsadmin | and? |
| 09:18.49 | aum | there's no video device |
| 09:18.57 | superlinux | do you see it in ifconfig? |
| 09:19.01 | punsad | so... I'm finally using linux again... been a long time |
| 09:19.08 | *** join/#debian razorx (~razorx@h-163-234.A155.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 09:19.08 | streuner__ | aum: is this a laptop? |
| 09:19.12 | aum | streuner__: no |
| 09:19.18 | *** join/#debian rainofkayos (~rainofkay@cpe-66-65-51-242.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 09:19.21 | punsad | has much changed in the last 5 years or so? ;) |
| 09:19.23 | streuner__ | why not just sell it and buy another one? |
| 09:19.31 | razorx | morning |
| 09:19.33 | aum | superlinux: ifconfig?!? I'm using the 1394 port to stream video to my TV, not for networking |
| 09:19.38 | superlinux | punsad, yes! plenty |
| 09:20.11 | *** join/#debian Inquisitor666 (~Inquisito@178.122.17.157) |
| 09:20.13 | punsad | @superlinux: that's too bad :) |
| 09:20.13 | streuner | aum: thats an easy solution, IMO |
| 09:20.14 | superlinux | aum, i understand.. but i want to see if your device is working |
| 09:20.21 | punsad | I'll need to relearn everything |
| 09:20.22 | aum | with the older kernel, this command worked: ffmpeg -i somevideo.avi -target pal-dv /dev/dv1394/0 |
| 09:20.22 | *** join/#debian musolinoa (~alex@fedora/musolinoa) |
| 09:20.40 | aum | no mention of dv1394 on ifconfig |
| 09:20.46 | superlinux | punsad, not that much |
| 09:20.53 | nsadmin | punsad: yeah, they tore down the house across the street... hey, I can see again! |
| 09:20.54 | punsad | that's what I was hoping for |
| 09:21.04 | *** join/#debian Matic`Makovec (~biggi_mat@193.77.138.57) |
| 09:21.22 | superlinux | ok |
| 09:21.43 | superlinux | gtg |
| 09:21.47 | punsad | I first started with debian potato (I think) |
| 09:21.48 | superlinux | see ye |
| 09:21.52 | punsad | on floppies |
| 09:22.00 | superlinux | oh! |
| 09:22.12 | superlinux | too old |
| 09:22.15 | punsad | yeah... then I switched to RH6.1 |
| 09:22.21 | punsad | then back to debian |
| 09:22.27 | *** join/#debian musolinoa (~alex@CPE-139-168-212-38.lns1.way.bigpond.net.au) |
| 09:22.29 | superlinux | my 1st was RH6.2 |
| 09:22.30 | *** join/#debian tf (~tf@unaffiliated/tf) |
| 09:22.37 | *** part/#debian superlinux (~oracle@63.216.126.252) |
| 09:22.46 | punsad | I remember the days of ipchains |
| 09:22.49 | streuner | heh, my first was SLS :-P |
| 09:22.55 | *** join/#debian musolinoa (~alex@fedora/musolinoa) |
| 09:23.20 | punsad | SLS .... I've heard of LFS |
| 09:23.28 | bocaneri | SLS is *old*. |
| 09:23.32 | punsad | and slackware... but not SLS |
| 09:23.53 | punsad | what does SLS stand for? |
| 09:23.55 | nsadmin | sls was soft landing systems, predates slack |
| 09:24.02 | punsad | whoa... |
| 09:24.02 | streuner | punsad: one of the first distros at all, 0,98 kernel, 10 floppies for base system, 20 for X |
| 09:24.28 | punsad | geez... |
| 09:24.46 | punsad | My linux server from 1998 still boots up and works |
| 09:24.55 | streuner | haha |
| 09:25.08 | bocaneri | The first linux distro I ever actually installed was RH6 on a PPro, 64 megs of RAM. I liked it well enough. Installed Storm on a second partition but didn't like that it had no X. |
| 09:25.15 | punsad | I just had to ressurrect it today... will finally drag files off of it and put it to rest permanently I think |
| 09:25.29 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.75) |
| 09:25.30 | punsad | has been my backup fileserver for forever |
| 09:26.01 | *** join/#debian ga_bash (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) |
| 09:26.04 | punsad | I'm using the latest knoppix right now to ressurrect a broken laptop |
| 09:26.31 | *** part/#debian rue_house (~rue@24.207.119.38) |
| 09:26.31 | punsad | I'm amazed that my external hard drive and wifi 'just work' |
| 09:27.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 787] by debhelper |
| 09:27.12 | punsad | knoppix did a great job of mounting my oh-so-fractured ntfs filesystem and I'm dragging files off of it to my external hard drive.. |
| 09:27.33 | punsad | I love it how everytime my windows boxes crash, linux comes right in and saves it from the scrap bin |
| 09:28.09 | streuner | punsad: i missed lately some tools in it |
| 09:28.40 | streuner | punsad: some of them to configure your NIC and stuff, dunno why knopper throw it out |
| 09:29.13 | punsad | streuner: well .... it seems to be doing a decent job of 'just working' for me right now |
| 09:29.44 | punsad | looks like ifconfig is here |
| 09:30.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 09:30.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 09:30.23 | streuner | sure, but interfaces isnt easy to edit then... |
| 09:30.34 | punsad | I see |
| 09:30.35 | streuner | in some cases (not DHCP) |
| 09:31.04 | streuner | new WM isnt bad at all |
| 09:31.26 | punsad | looks like gnome is winning the desktop battle on linux I see |
| 09:31.36 | punsad | I remember when knoppix defaulted to kde |
| 09:31.44 | punsad | (not too long ago) |
| 09:31.47 | *** join/#debian mwch (~mwc@5e034F8d.bb.sky.com) |
| 09:31.53 | streuner | its LMDE or something like that now |
| 09:31.58 | punsad | hence the name I guess |
| 09:32.17 | punsad | oh... I assumed it was gnome |
| 09:32.22 | punsad | it's gnome-ish looking |
| 09:32.30 | streuner | yeah |
| 09:32.39 | punsad | the more things change... the more they stay the same |
| 09:33.19 | babilen_zzz | moin all :-) |
| 09:33.38 | *** join/#debian eryque (~eryque@ANantes-552-1-88-96.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 09:34.04 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 09:35.00 | *** join/#debian marienjoanny (~marienjoa@79.86.125.163) |
| 09:35.18 | streuner | !LXDE |
| 09:35.19 | dpkg | [lxde] Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment, available for Debian since Lenny. To get LXDE, ask me about <install lxde>. http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE:Questions http://www.lxde.org/ #lxde on irc.oftc.net. |
| 09:35.38 | punsad | I quite like it |
| 09:35.50 | punsad | this PCMan file manager thing is quite nice also |
| 09:36.06 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 09:37.45 | punsad | I can't believe how smooth Knoppix is running on this laptop! |
| 09:37.47 | timeoh | Hey i have a question concerning KDE,XFCE and GNOME. In general all programs that have a gui for example wireshark can be installed by apt-get. sidux is debian based too and uses XFCE. i think there are only a few programs which can run under GNOME or KDE or XFC. is this assumption right? |
| 09:38.52 | *** join/#debian hxd (~hxd@unaffiliated/hxd) |
| 09:40.23 | streuner | heh, there are only a few apps. which are specially written for there WM/DE (wmaker and some apps.), but usually all work, no matter what kind of DE/WM you are actually using |
| 09:40.50 | *** join/#debian roll (~roll@89.196.74.255) |
| 09:41.04 | punsad | @timeoh: when you install an application, debian will install any necessary dependencies |
| 09:42.25 | punsad | I love how iphone has the app-store which, to me, borrows so much of linux repositories like apt-get |
| 09:43.05 | punsad | and now so much of this 'cloud computing' stuff is stuff linux has been doing for forever |
| 09:43.08 | timeoh | punsad: will install all necessary dependencies.. an assumption: I have XFCE and install an application which runs under GNOME only. so i will habe to WM? no i will not. it is a stupid question |
| 09:43.44 | timeoh | *so i will have two WM |
| 09:44.56 | streuner | nah |
| 09:45.14 | punsad | back when I used to use linux a lot, I remmeber running gnome, and then installing some kde based program. I seem to recall this working okay |
| 09:45.23 | *** join/#debian Rix (~Rixi``@77-85-21-9.btc-net.bg) |
| 09:45.30 | *** join/#debian Zylvain (~Zylvain@AToulouse-159-1-63-229.w92-134.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 09:45.34 | punsad | quite clumsy, but it worked |
| 09:45.44 | *** join/#debian e7th04sh (~proxor@62.61.58.183) |
| 09:46.12 | e7th04sh | Hi, i just made an update with synaptic, and i am being asked to choose keyboard layout. |
| 09:46.13 | *** join/#debian sysrqalt (~sysrqalt@75-135-76-28.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 09:46.23 | punsad | just hit enter :) |
| 09:46.29 | e7th04sh | I would like to choose Polish (Programmer's), but i only have various USA options + Other |
| 09:46.32 | punsad | oh |
| 09:46.59 | *** join/#debian soczol (~soc@soczol.cc) |
| 09:47.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 779] by debhelper |
| 09:47.34 | e7th04sh | i would hit enter, but i have no idea what to choose to make sure i can still write zaĆ
Ā¼ĆĀ³Ć
ĀĆĀ gĆĀĆ
ĀlĆĀ
jaĆ
ĀŗĆ
Ā without using character table from menu |
| 09:47.40 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 09:48.46 | timeoh | punsad: thank you |
| 09:49.07 | e7th04sh | Is there perhaps some polish debian irc channel? |
| 09:49.16 | tf | !po |
| 09:49.16 | dpkg | po is probably Piss Off or Post Office |
| 09:49.22 | tf | !debian-po |
| 09:49.29 | tf | i think is #debian-po |
| 09:49.32 | *** join/#debian allisterb (~allisterb@cuscon126576.tstt.net.tt) |
| 09:49.33 | cahoot | e7th04sh: if you run setxkbmap -layout pl in a term ? |
| 09:49.39 | babilen | !pl |
| 09:49.39 | dpkg | polska -> #debian.pl (on irc.freenode.net). Also, pl is a common extension for perl scripts and is sometimes used as an abbreviation for "packet loss". |
| 09:49.43 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@ghenry.plus.com) |
| 09:49.43 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/ghenry) |
| 09:49.47 | tf | lol |
| 09:50.14 | e7th04sh | thanks ;p |
| 09:50.31 | babilen | e7th04sh: Is there no way to select non-US keymaps? |
| 09:50.45 | e7th04sh | however, the correct channel seems to be #debian-pl |
| 09:51.14 | e7th04sh | at least, it's much more crowded, with 27 people, while on debian.pl it's only me and ChanServ |
| 09:51.17 | babilen | e7th04sh: I don't use synaptics, so I have no experience with it, but I doubt that it is not possible to choose other layouts than US ones |
| 09:51.32 | e7th04sh | it seems to be a graphic ui for debconf |
| 09:51.32 | *** join/#debian gnomo (~gnomo@189.22.148.132) |
| 09:51.35 | babilen | e7th04sh: Yeah - that's the right channel then. |
| 09:51.38 | babilen | e7th04sh: It is |
| 09:51.50 | *** join/#debian Batchy (~batchy@AVelizy-155-1-38-194.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 09:52.10 | e7th04sh | i can choose "Other", but it might be irreversible (at least not during this installation) and might cause trouble |
| 09:52.11 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@r2r157.net.upc.cz) |
| 09:52.18 | e7th04sh | but since no other option looks any better i'll try it |
| 09:52.26 | *** join/#debian shingouz (shingouz@80-186-153-115.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 09:52.30 | gnomo | hi all ;** |
| 09:52.53 | e7th04sh | ok, i freaked out a bit i guess, it let me choose Poland and now a specific layout |
| 09:53.01 | e7th04sh | sorry ;p |
| 09:53.06 | babilen | e7th04sh: I would select an arbitrary keymap now (choose on in which you are able to type) and run 'dpkg-reconfigure console-data' in a terminal afterwards |
| 09:53.18 | babilen | e7th04sh: :-D |
| 09:54.11 | *** join/#debian fredl (~fredl@e225118.upc-e.chello.nl) |
| 09:54.55 | agike | babilen: "fetchmail: connection to localhost:smtp [::1/25] failed: Connection refused. |
| 09:54.55 | agike | " |
| 09:55.23 | e7th04sh | dang, debconf just crashed o.o |
| 09:55.27 | babilen | agike: Why are you trying to fetch mail from your own computer? |
| 09:55.28 | agike | mutt diagnostic |
| 09:55.47 | babilen | agike: And it's been a while since I used fetchmail. I am running getmail these days - But it should work |
| 09:55.57 | agike | babilen: heh .. good point ! |
| 09:56.15 | babilen | e7th04sh: Just run 'dpkg-reconfigure console-data' on a console |
| 09:56.22 | punsad | I remember reading that some exec at google uses mutt for e-mail |
| 09:56.33 | babilen | agike: Are you running a local POP3/IMAP server? |
| 09:56.41 | agike | I'ma bit tired right now (other stuff) but it's been a long time between error msgs |
| 09:56.47 | *** join/#debian Kuzavas (~www_xn--i@78-59-116-43.static.zebra.lt) |
| 09:56.55 | *** join/#debian muh2000 (~muh2000@2001:470:9c79:88:219:d1ff:fe96:8ef4) |
| 09:56.56 | *** join/#debian muh2000 (~muh2000@unaffiliated/muh2000) |
| 09:57.29 | babilen | agike: May I suggest a good book, some wine and a relaxing sleep and we talk about this later then? |
| 09:57.37 | agike | babilen: yep, normail fetchmailrc |
| 09:57.43 | *** join/#debian sash_ (~sash@dslb-084-063-009-151.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 09:57.48 | agike | babilen: agreed. Cheers .. |
| 09:58.28 | babilen | agike: Sleep tight - And take a look at getmail. I found it to be more reliable than fetchmail. |
| 10:00.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 10:00.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 10:00.46 | agike | babilen: but what could cause that error msg ? I don't have these probs on a dual-booted Ubuntu distro |
| 10:02.25 | babilen | agike: I don't know. I'll have to see your fetchmailrc and the complete error. Is that error persistent or intermittent? |
| 10:02.31 | *** join/#debian ChildOfGod (~debayan@59.164.102.80) |
| 10:03.30 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 10:03.36 | *** join/#debian sysrqalt (~sysrqalt@75-135-76-28.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 10:04.50 | *** join/#debian tempeldirne (~L@frnk-590df38e.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 10:04.58 | agike | babilen: I sent a test msg from icedove to the server and it intermittently (ie when I gat aany test msg) gives me that one. I'll post fetchmailrc to pastebin but it has been working in previous installs. It's still probably a misconfig somewhere |
| 10:05.35 | *** join/#debian madi (~madi@unaffiliated/madi) |
| 10:05.44 | *** join/#debian raz0 (~raz0@78.156.222.101.bredband.3.dk) |
| 10:06.19 | *** join/#debian roll (~roll@pool-205-78-196-89.dbd-ipconnect.net) |
| 10:07.42 | babilen | agike: You send it to which server? Do you run your own MTA/POP3/IMAP server to handle incoming mail? |
| 10:07.48 | agike | babilen: http://pastebin.com/m2c0a4287 |
| 10:08.08 | *** join/#debian Blaize (~Blaize@92.1.157.7) |
| 10:08.16 | agike | I send it to a commercial server, based locally |
| 10:08.41 | *** join/#debian overmind (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/overmind) |
| 10:08.42 | agike | pop3/exim4 |
| 10:09.54 | *** join/#debian jrib (~jrib@upstream/dev/jrib) |
| 10:10.07 | *** join/#debian Firestarter (~Firestart@cpe-24-29-75-91.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 10:10.29 | *** join/#debian nse (~leo@187.59.117.88) |
| 10:10.32 | babilen | agike: ok - That looks fine. I would however enable SSL if your server supports that. |
| 10:10.55 | agike | babilen: the complete error is "fetchmail: connection to localhost:smtp [::1/25] failed: Connection refused." |
| 10:10.58 | *** join/#debian daya (~daya@113.199.181.87) |
| 10:12.05 | *** join/#debian ari-tczew (~ari@ip-88-199-176-116.tczew.net.pl) |
| 10:12.10 | aburch | agike: Do you have an MTA installed on your computer? |
| 10:12.29 | *** join/#debian eryque (~eryque@ANantes-552-1-88-96.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:12.41 | aburch | agike: If not, you have to tell fetchmail to deliver the mail via some other means (for example procmail). |
| 10:12.52 | babilen | agike: Is the mail server running on localhost? |
| 10:13.05 | *** join/#debian saste (~saste___@host-78-15-182-186.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 10:13.40 | *** part/#debian eryque (~eryque@ANantes-552-1-88-96.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:14.03 | agike | babilen: no - it is based at a telco in another suburb (i.e. "locally"). |
| 10:15.26 | *** join/#debian Firestarter (~Firestart@cpe-24-29-75-91.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 10:15.35 | *** join/#debian paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) |
| 10:15.50 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@r2r157.net.upc.cz) |
| 10:15.55 | agike | babilen: yep, I use a basic procmail found on a gentoo mutt HOWTO. I've played with them in the past .. |
| 10:16.43 | babilen | agike: You would do that by adding: mda "/usr/bin/procmail -m /home/foo/procmail.conf" to your fetchmailrc |
| 10:16.47 | *** join/#debian boodie (foobar@host185-69-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 10:16.58 | *** join/#debian brodul (~brodul@BSN-143-114-17.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) |
| 10:17.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 790] by debhelper |
| 10:17.20 | *** join/#debian ghostman (~forth@HSI-KBW-078-043-171-029.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 10:17.25 | babilen | agike: It looks as if fetchmail is trying to connect to a local MDA which is not listening on port 25 |
| 10:17.44 | babilen | agike: As you want to use procmail as MDA you have to configure it explicitly |
| 10:18.54 | boodie | Hi: I have a webcam that stole the id n. 0 of the soundcard, so at every boot I have to reset alsaconf. I heard that I should blacklist the modules. How do I do this? |
| 10:19.23 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@r2r157.net.upc.cz) |
| 10:19.46 | cahoot | boodie: give snd-usb-audio index 1 or greater in alsa-base.conf |
| 10:19.49 | *** part/#debian VladNistor (~nistor@89.137.106.107) |
| 10:20.03 | cahoot | boodie: /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf |
| 10:20.08 | agike | babilen: thanks, I've inserted it but left it commented it out for the moment. I think I need some sleep in my time zone .. zzzzz |
| 10:20.30 | agike | Good night. |
| 10:20.52 | saste | hi all |
| 10:20.55 | agike | babilen: I'll catch you later |
| 10:21.08 | saste | I'm facing a configuration error with gnome / gconf |
| 10:21.23 | *** join/#debian Rapp (~rapp@87.118.108.45) |
| 10:21.26 | Rapp | hi everyone! |
| 10:21.33 | saste | yesterday I upgraded from lenny -> squeeze |
| 10:21.34 | Rapp | how do i select the default python interpreter in debian? |
| 10:22.04 | saste | I get this message in .xsession-errors |
| 10:22.14 | saste | Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORbit, or you have stale lock due to a system crash |
| 10:22.38 | saste | also tried to remove all user .gnome / .gconf configuration dir but in vain |
| 10:22.48 | saste | the problem persists |
| 10:23.12 | Rapp | already solved it... |
| 10:23.26 | *** join/#debian dschoepe (~dschoepe@unaffiliated/dschoepe) |
| 10:24.07 | *** join/#debian Gnarfoz (smallbrain@WoWUIDev/WowAce/Gnarfoz) |
| 10:24.09 | saste | Rapp: did you try update-alternatives? |
| 10:24.37 | boodie | cahoot: I don't have an 'alsa-base.conf' file ... just 'alsa-base' (mind: I run Lenny stable) ... are these 2 files equivalent? |
| 10:25.47 | cahoot | boodie: yes - look at the last part of the file |
| 10:26.20 | cahoot | boodie: should be some line like Options <some module> index= |
| 10:27.29 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~SkG@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) |
| 10:27.47 | boodie | The card that works is intel8x0 ... the file has a line 'options snd-intel8x0m index=-2' should I rewrite it as 'options snd-intel8x0m index=0' , possibly? |
| 10:27.50 | saste | BTW I just created a new temporary user .. gnome is working fine with it |
| 10:28.00 | saste | so it must be some problem with my user |
| 10:28.15 | *** join/#debian thrashold (~europan@3mhz.net) |
| 10:28.20 | *** join/#debian brodul_ (~brodul@BSN-143-118-251.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) |
| 10:28.29 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 10:28.38 | saste | some old configuration on which gnome badly chokes |
| 10:29.06 | cahoot | boodie: no that's the modem part of intel-8x0 I believe |
| 10:29.07 | boodie | cahoot: maybe even just commenting that line would do ... |
| 10:29.58 | *** join/#debian orzech79 (~orzech@pppoe-b-22.interblock.pl) |
| 10:30.01 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 10:30.01 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 10:30.12 | cahoot | boodie: you want options snd-intel8x0 index=0, and possibly options snd-usb-audio index=1 |
| 10:30.29 | cahoot | boodie: then restart alsa |
| 10:30.47 | *** join/#debian Gilde (~Gilde@dslb-092-076-140-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 10:31.07 | boodie | cahoot: I have put into the file alsa-base-blacklist the two offending modules (snd-mpu401 & legacy), but nothing has changed ... |
| 10:31.55 | cahoot | boodie: you mean the webcam loads snd-mpu401 + |
| 10:31.58 | cahoot | ? |
| 10:32.09 | WaterRatj | Why does terminal not found unmount? but it finds mount? |
| 10:32.16 | cahoot | umount |
| 10:32.26 | *** join/#debian davi (~davi@gnu/davi) |
| 10:32.49 | WaterRatj | lol |
| 10:32.50 | WaterRatj | tnx |
| 10:32.54 | WaterRatj | me stupid :p |
| 10:32.54 | WaterRatj | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:33.13 | boodie | Yes ... it's one of these chinese things with flashlights ... who knows how they managed to configure them, but since I installed it I have the problem; |
| 10:33.37 | boodie | In fact I tried to make it work with GSPCA, without success ... |
| 10:33.57 | boodie | The usual hardware = nightmare for us ... |
| 10:33.58 | cahoot | boodie: ok hook up the camer and paste the output of cat /proc/asound/modules to a pastebin |
| 10:34.13 | Rapp | saste: yes i did, it said "no such option: python" or something similar. then i found out, that i have to manually add alternatives for python using update-alternatives |
| 10:34.16 | *** part/#debian Rapp (~rapp@87.118.108.45) |
| 10:35.34 | boodie | cahoot: It's just one line "0 snd_intel8x0" (but this if after I already ran 'alsaconf') |
| 10:36.15 | boodie | I should probably reboot and then paste this output |
| 10:36.25 | cahoot | boodie: so unplug/replug the camera |
| 10:36.41 | cahoot | or is it built-in? |
| 10:36.48 | *** join/#debian verblendet (~vizzy@p54B1BE8E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:37.53 | boodie | No , no I unplugged / replugged it |
| 10:38.20 | cahoot | boodie: and no extra alsa module got loaded? |
| 10:38.46 | boodie | Now, under the previous line '1 snd_usb_audio' appeared |
| 10:39.07 | boodie | So this is the annoying module |
| 10:39.17 | cahoot | boodie: ok so you want make sure snd-usb-audio doesn't grab index 0 |
| 10:39.28 | cahoot | give it index 1 |
| 10:39.42 | cahoot | as described above |
| 10:39.49 | boodie | Where & how? |
| 10:40.05 | boodie | You mean in the alsa-base file? |
| 10:40.17 | cahoot | <cahoot> boodie: you want options snd-intel8x0 index=0, and possibly options snd-usb-audio index=1 |
| 10:40.30 | *** join/#debian DDave (~DDave@unaffiliated/ddave) |
| 10:40.48 | cahoot | yes in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, then restart alsa |
| 10:40.53 | boodie | Ok, sorry, can I just pastebin my asla-base file? |
| 10:41.12 | cahoot | sure |
| 10:41.21 | *** join/#debian chlue (~quassel@hnvr-4dbd36b3.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 10:42.21 | boodie | http://paste.debian.net/59796/ |
| 10:43.14 | *** join/#debian HackeMate (~HackeMate@47.Red-83-49-127.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 10:43.28 | cahoot | <cahoot> boodie: so add options snd-intel8x0 index=0 and options snd-usb-audio index=1 - one line for each entry |
| 10:44.23 | boodie | Aha, say, just adding these 2 lines at the end of the file?? |
| 10:45.22 | cahoot | boodie: do that |
| 10:45.29 | boodie | OK |
| 10:45.42 | boodie | many thanks then restart alsa? |
| 10:45.48 | cahoot | yes |
| 10:46.19 | *** join/#debian exaltia (~exaltia@ldesaintjean.pck.nerim.net) |
| 10:47.02 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@h128-254.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) |
| 10:48.20 | *** join/#debian Ergo^ (~ergo@pc-55018.zdnet.com.pl) |
| 10:48.26 | boodie | Ugh ... what's the alsa restarting command? |
| 10:48.49 | babilen | boodie: 'alsa reload' |
| 10:48.50 | *** join/#debian ARC137 (~algo@117.136.10.139) |
| 10:48.50 | kaduk | dont use alsa |
| 10:48.51 | cahoot | as root /etc/init.d/alsa force-reload |
| 10:48.53 | kaduk | use OSS4 |
| 10:49.08 | babilen | or 'force-re ... nvm |
| 10:49.08 | cahoot | kaduk: don't spread misinfo |
| 10:49.42 | boodie | bash: /etc/init.d/alsa: No such file or directory |
| 10:49.55 | kaduk | boodie, press tab |
| 10:50.37 | babilen | boodie: 'alsa reload' or 'alsa force-reload' |
| 10:51.08 | *** join/#debian NoNaMeNo (~NoNaMeNo@tb213-185-227-85.cust.teknikbyran.com) |
| 10:52.02 | boodie | in /etc/init.d there's only alsa-utils |
| 10:52.57 | *** join/#debian Firestarter (~Firestart@cpe-24-29-75-91.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 10:53.09 | babilen | boodie: try: 'alsa force-reload' (as root) |
| 10:53.56 | boodie | ok - it worked ... now I should be able to hear the sound (if it worked), right? |
| 10:54.10 | cahoot | boodie: speaker-test -t wav -c2 |
| 10:55.08 | *** join/#debian Cybertinus (~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl) |
| 10:56.26 | *** join/#debian prdelka (~400ml@segfault.net) |
| 10:57.11 | *** join/#debian sherringham (~alastair@calliope.gotadsl.co.uk) |
| 10:57.26 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 10:57.42 | boodie | Yes: it works - 1000 thanks! |
| 10:57.54 | babilen | :-D |
| 10:58.17 | *** join/#debian CharminTheMoose (~Count_fuz@unaffiliated/charminthemoose) |
| 10:58.28 | boodie | by the way ... has anybody setup a webcam that works? |
| 10:58.52 | sherringham | part |
| 10:58.58 | *** part/#debian sherringham (~alastair@calliope.gotadsl.co.uk) |
| 10:59.05 | babilen | sure |
| 10:59.22 | boodie | These nasty little things give more than a headache |
| 10:59.39 | babilen | I had no problems - *shrug* |
| 10:59.49 | cahoot | boodie: figure out its usbId - google for the correct module |
| 11:00.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 11:00.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 11:00.07 | cahoot | boodie: i e plug it in and run lsusb |
| 11:00.11 | babilen | cahoot: Which webcam do you use? |
| 11:00.27 | cahoot | one that uses usbvideo |
| 11:00.46 | cahoot | logitech 5000 or so |
| 11:00.53 | *** join/#debian kaane (~kal@g229038230.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 11:00.58 | *** join/#debian sysrqalt (~sysrqalt@75-135-76-28.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 11:01.07 | boodie | Well I tried GSPCA, which claimed to have it work (it's a MEDIACOMM with 3+3 little flashlights at it's sides) |
| 11:01.25 | boodie | Obviously, it didn't work |
| 11:01.40 | *** join/#debian Bhavic (~Bhavic@125-236-190-113.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 11:01.43 | cahoot | boodie: the name means nothing - only its usbid |
| 11:02.56 | SpeedyG | hi, i'm looking for some good suggestions to setup my new box.. |
| 11:02.59 | boodie | Yeah what's the command to recoop the boot information? |
| 11:03.07 | cahoot | boodie: i e plug it in and run lsusb |
| 11:03.34 | boodie | Bus 005 Device 003: ID 093a:2620 Pixart Imaging, Inc. |
| 11:04.14 | *** join/#debian Firestarter (~Firestart@cpe-24-29-75-91.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 11:04.19 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@cli44-1-78-228-102-148.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:04.58 | cahoot | boodie: yes gspca should support it |
| 11:05.14 | boodie | Problem is how do one finds out, at a shopping mall whether this model will or not work? It's sold as mediacomm, it lists it as a pixart imaging, probably the chipsets are a third party |
| 11:05.27 | SpeedyG | i've got a 2x1TB box on which I want to run multiple VMs where one of the VMs will be dedicated samba/fileserver what would be a recommended way to setup the VM hostsystem ? (i'd like to use xen for virtualization) |
| 11:05.40 | boodie | I followed the GSPCA instructions, but no success |
| 11:05.58 | *** join/#debian Yu\2 (~Yu@2001:638:504:f1f6:213:77ff:feb6:afb0) |
| 11:05.59 | *** join/#debian brammator (~brammator@89.107.196.56) |
| 11:06.27 | kcin8 | is there an option i should be using on Multicore,x64 systems when compiling things? i been making a couple kernels and top is only reporting 50% of cpu usage max like its only using 1 core |
| 11:07.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 797] by debhelper |
| 11:07.25 | cahoot | kcin8: not using a debian kernel for some reason? |
| 11:07.35 | babilen | kcin8: pass '-j CORES' to make for example |
| 11:07.50 | cahoot | kcin8: err disregard |
| 11:07.59 | kcin8 | im using the kernel source and making my own |
| 11:08.23 | cahoot | kcin8: man make-kpkg |
| 11:08.25 | *** join/#debian Elite (~add2df73@gateway/web/freenode/x-cyxodsznfnmumwfx) |
| 11:08.27 | kcin8 | k will try that next time babilen |
| 11:08.40 | cahoot | kcin8: see CONCURRENCY |
| 11:08.41 | babilen | cahoot: He does not want to go the "Debian Way" |
| 11:08.54 | kcin8 | should it not do thigs like that by default system wide? |
| 11:09.03 | Elite | Can debian be installed fromdvd 2? |
| 11:09.07 | babilen | why should it? |
| 11:09.13 | babilen | Elite: no |
| 11:09.18 | *** join/#debian Yu\2 (~Yu@2001:638:504:f1f6:213:77ff:feb6:afb0) |
| 11:09.33 | Elite | Then what is thepointofhaving4 dangimages? |
| 11:09.35 | cahoot | kcin8: don't think you want system wide gcc options when compiling kernels |
| 11:09.40 | kcin8 | nah i really dont.. im so used to making my own kernel from way back in the slackware days :P |
| 11:09.50 | *** join/#debian vida (davi@unaffiliated/vida) |
| 11:09.57 | mallxs | Hi, is it possible to runmore then ONE openVPN clients on a host ? |
| 11:10.11 | babilen | Elite: The DVDs contain *ALL* packages shipped by Debian. You probably want to use the netinstall image if you have network access during the installation. |
| 11:10.35 | Elite | hmmok |
| 11:10.45 | babilen | !tell Elite -about netinstall |
| 11:13.26 | *** join/#debian vh4x0r (~vikraman@115.184.118.255) |
| 11:13.57 | *** join/#debian SOUL_OF_R00T (~1001@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) |
| 11:14.05 | Elite | Any of you guys do web hosting? |
| 11:14.17 | mallxs | Yes |
| 11:14.33 | Elite | Do you use a web based control panel? |
| 11:14.38 | *** join/#debian robyromania (~robert@92.85.26.195) |
| 11:14.49 | mallxs | I'm writing my own at the moment |
| 11:15.00 | robyromania | hello. just a little question: where is the location of the wallpapers in debian squeeze? |
| 11:15.07 | Elite | hmm, do you use one at the moment though? |
| 11:15.23 | *** join/#debian rainofkayos (~rainofkay@cpe-66-65-51-242.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 11:15.26 | *** part/#debian boodie (foobar@host185-69-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 11:15.43 | mallxs | Elite: i whasn't happy with the provisioning of what was offered |
| 11:16.05 | mallxs | and no i run this with some one else who did used it |
| 11:16.08 | Elite | Ah okay, how is the one you're working on coming? |
| 11:16.34 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~dutchfish@84.28.246.30) |
| 11:16.35 | *** join/#debian daltio111 (~daltio@116.71.49.221) |
| 11:16.53 | SOUL_OF_R00T | happy aquariius aeon... |
| 11:16.55 | daltio111 | guys i want to implement my own PKI , any idea any opensource product |
| 11:16.56 | daltio111 | ? |
| 11:17.24 | mallxs | Elite: Are you going in to the wehhosting business |
| 11:17.39 | Elite | I am, already have my own colo server |
| 11:17.53 | babilen | daltio111: gnupg? |
| 11:17.56 | dutchfish | After i updated squeeze libvirtd to latest, i get the following error: 12:03:35.343: warning : qemudStartup:1099 : Unable to create cgroup for driver: No such device or address ; what does it mean? How to fix? I have no longer bridged networking. |
| 11:18.26 | daltio111 | PKI is not gnupg |
| 11:18.46 | thrashold | If an app I'm trying to compile complains that 'QtGui: No such file or directory', what should I install? I lhave libqt4-dev installed |
| 11:18.52 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@p5DCF0DC7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:19.10 | mallxs | daltio111: check http://www.debian-administration.org/ |
| 11:19.19 | aburch | daltio111: openssl has a ca application. |
| 11:19.37 | *** join/#debian paissad_ (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) |
| 11:20.18 | *** join/#debian HackeMate (~HackeMate@47.Red-83-49-127.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:20.32 | *** part/#debian vh4x0r (~vikraman@115.184.118.255) |
| 11:21.52 | HackeMate | hello, I tried to install kde4 on debian lenny but it is not possible, so i switched the repositories to testing and it says every packages are broken and cant be installed |
| 11:22.03 | HackeMate | is there a clean way to install it without go to testing? |
| 11:22.47 | daltio111 | did u use ejbca |
| 11:22.52 | *** join/#debian mwch (~mwc@5e034F8d.bb.sky.com) |
| 11:22.58 | HackeMate | no, even i dont known what it is |
| 11:23.03 | dutchfish | HackeMate, you might delve into http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/ to my knowledge i am afraid no |
| 11:23.22 | dutchfish | HackeMate, go by squeeze |
| 11:23.41 | HackeMate | squeeze is between stable and testing? |
| 11:23.49 | dutchfish | !testing |
| 11:23.49 | dpkg | hmm... testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <squeeze>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <lenny->squeeze> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging to use testing and should be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
| 11:23.52 | babilen | squeeze *is* testing these days |
| 11:24.25 | babilen | HackeMate: Have you already installed packages from squeeze? |
| 11:25.42 | *** join/#debian Firestarter (~Firestart@cpe-24-29-75-91.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 11:26.42 | babilen | HackeMate: anyway - '/msg dpkg lenny->squeeze' and read lenny's release notes if you want to upgrade to squeeze |
| 11:26.56 | babilen | HackeMate: But read the <testing> factoid again and decide if you really want to go that way |
| 11:27.06 | HackeMate | i was in testing long time ago |
| 11:27.32 | HackeMate | i prefer skip it, if it is possible |
| 11:27.42 | HackeMate | but if i need go to testing for install kde4, then i will wait |
| 11:27.49 | macrobat | robyromania: depends, you place them where you want :) if you set a wallpaper and know its name, use "locate wallpapername" |
| 11:28.03 | HackeMate | babilen: i did not install any package from squeeze yet |
| 11:28.09 | babilen | HackeMate: I'm afraid you'll have to wait then |
| 11:28.27 | HackeMate | yea looks so |
| 11:28.58 | *** join/#debian abhinay (~abhinay@unaffiliated/abhinay) |
| 11:30.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 11:30.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 11:30.08 | HackeMate | and just for known, if i want to install kde4 in a stable version, i only need to change "stable" for "testing" on repositories? |
| 11:30.54 | *** join/#debian TomyLobo (~foo@port-212-202-171-135.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 11:31.05 | *** join/#debian thrashold (~europan@3mhz.net) |
| 11:31.30 | babilen | HackeMate: No - That will upgrade your whole system. And you wouldn't change 'stable' to 'testing' but 'lenny' to 'squeeze' |
| 11:31.47 | thrashold | Damn, sometiems I wish I was using a real OS like Windows :( |
| 11:31.53 | *** join/#debian metaltux (~apel@s83-191-241-142.cust.tele2.se) |
| 11:32.01 | babilen | thrashold: huh? Miss the BSOD? |
| 11:32.17 | thrashold | babilen: What BSOD? Windows has always been million times more stable than that Linux crap |
| 11:32.25 | HackeMate | oh, ok |
| 11:32.36 | babilen | thrashold: bs |
| 11:32.37 | HackeMate | and is there a date where sqeeze will be stable? |
| 11:32.43 | *** join/#debian hanibana (~5e7e11e3@gateway/web/freenode/x-mtbsqrkfpnaxeese) |
| 11:32.48 | HackeMate | or it is a static period like 6months or something like that? |
| 11:32.52 | babilen | HackeMate: maybe end of this year |
| 11:33.02 | HackeMate | oh |
| 11:33.12 | HackeMate | i dont know if i am so patient |
| 11:33.12 | babilen | HackeMate: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/02/msg00002.html |
| 11:33.14 | thrashold | Well, Linux is stable if you don't use X |
| 11:33.18 | HackeMate | thanks |
| 11:33.44 | hanibana | Im running debian lenny. I have an ext4 file system in a partition. Can I `check' this filesystem? |
| 11:33.46 | thrashold | (Which isn't possible, since I haven't seen a video driver with which the virtual consoles work) |
| 11:34.10 | *** join/#debian daftd (~daft@dhcp-077-248-094-239.chello.nl) |
| 11:34.13 | *** join/#debian Shaytan (~eric@c-13bfe355.025-19-73746f29.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 11:35.27 | *** join/#debian pLk (~svaurek@xdsl-92-252-102-130.dip.osnanet.de) |
| 11:35.36 | murosai | is there only one version of the netinst installation image (i.e. can't pick between stable or testing) like in the cd-rom versions? |
| 11:36.11 | xyan | thrashold: its not about video drivers, have a framebuffer -> have gui on any console. mplayer works there with -vo fbdev[2] you could even compile gtk2 and qt2 programms without X, you could use directfb or SDL or or or. you might want to download qt-embedded and compile that. it comes with some nice demos running gui on your framebuffer (they even have a browser as an example) |
| 11:37.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 804] by debhelper |
| 11:37.09 | thrashold | What is fbdev? inteldrmfb and radeondrmfb (I don't remember the names correctly) both switch from working to non-working state each month |
| 11:37.26 | *** join/#debian SauLus (~SauLus@c135033.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 11:38.03 | thrashold | So I don't have virtual consoles on neither ATI nor Intel cards working at all (on my intel card the virtual console is just blank screen) |
| 11:38.04 | xyan | thrashold: inteldrmfb is the kms enabled intel framebuffer right, fbdev is just a driver name for mplayer -vo <driver> if you have inteldrmfb then try fbdev2 for mplayer which works flawless |
| 11:38.18 | xyan | thrashold: vesafb then ? |
| 11:38.28 | thrashold | That's too slow :) |
| 11:38.48 | xyan | thrashold: then get decent hardware |
| 11:39.52 | thrashold | To make it more funny, the intel driver doesn't work if you have more than 6 GB RAM on recent kernels, so with 2.6.32 I can't start X at all :D |
| 11:39.55 | *** join/#debian orzech79 (~orzech@pppoe-b-22.interblock.pl) |
| 11:40.40 | xyan | thrashold: i only have 6gb on my desktop running a g33 chipset with x3100 gfxĆ¢ĀĀ¦ works on 2.6.32.8 w/o problems |
| 11:40.55 | xyan | thrashold: watching tv on the framebuffer right now :-) |
| 11:41.22 | *** join/#debian MrFahrenheit (~RageOfTho@users-33-158.vinet.ba) |
| 11:41.32 | vizzy | babilen, fyi :) i grabbed python.multiprocessing from pypi and installed to a local directory, now everything with python-ogre works fine ! big thanks! |
| 11:42.29 | xyan | thrashold: regarding the blank screen on your intel card, did you compile the driver and dri/agp fb support in? do you have a recent enough userspace for kms? |
| 11:42.32 | *** part/#debian orzech79 (~orzech@pppoe-b-22.interblock.pl) |
| 11:42.36 | thrashold | vizzy: You're on lenny? python-multiprocessing is available in sqeeuze for 2.5 |
| 11:43.21 | vizzy | thrashold, yes im on lenny |
| 11:43.29 | *** join/#debian sysrqalt (~sysrqalt@75-135-76-28.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 11:43.47 | vizzy | thrashold, and there is no backport, also backporting is a pain because too many unsolved dependencies |
| 11:44.02 | vizzy | its best to just grab the source from an official python backport side and install it |
| 11:44.14 | thrashold | vizzy: Er, I think apt pinning would work for python-multiprocessing at least, but anyway :) |
| 11:44.40 | vizzy | however, apt pinning... what is it? :)) sory, im not a friend of those ultraautomagic things |
| 11:45.03 | *** join/#debian buntfalke (~nobody@unaffiliated/buntfalke) |
| 11:45.03 | vizzy | tgz is best choice, i did lfs for years, and in debian i feel so dumb and lost |
| 11:45.04 | xyan | !tell vizzy -about pinning |
| 11:45.37 | vizzy | but i will upgrade to squeeze soon, if i found a solution to not install kde4 |
| 11:45.53 | vizzy | and still run kde3 or use something smarter |
| 11:46.44 | vizzy | haha: If you use stable, pinning won't help you from messing up the system |
| 11:46.52 | thrashold | xyan: The drm fb doesn't work (although it claims that it is enabled -> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/177793/), and after X starts, there is nothing in the console |
| 11:47.00 | saste | hi again.. I finally managed somehow to fix the problem with the gnome startup |
| 11:47.12 | saste | and soon another trouble raised |
| 11:47.28 | saste | looks like in gnome cursor keys don't work at all |
| 11:47.47 | saste | seems something related to .Xmodmap but who can say |
| 11:48.10 | saste | cursor keys work in the console terminals (actrl-alt-fN) |
| 11:48.31 | saste | but don't in any gnome application (emacs gnome-terminal epiphany tried) |
| 11:48.51 | xyan | thrashold: guess you should recompile the kernel and cut out every other fb related module |
| 11:48.53 | saste | same for xterm |
| 11:48.57 | *** join/#debian jelly-home (~jelly@islands.iskon.hr) |
| 11:49.33 | kcin8 | babilen. much better its using the 2 cores now |
| 11:49.33 | thrashold | xyan: You think that the problem is that two fb drivers attempt to load? |
| 11:49.43 | xyan | thrashold: exactly |
| 11:50.18 | xyan | thrashold: also i also dont use modules for the dri/fb stuff but copiled everything in |
| 11:50.48 | xyan | thrashold: otherwise you should include the modules i915 or w/e and agpgart and so on in your initramfs image |
| 11:50.52 | *** join/#debian `deb (~relax@2002:ad22:87df:0:9047:1816:acb3:a7d1) |
| 11:50.58 | thrashold | xyan: I have |
| 11:51.27 | xyan | thrashold: im running sid here though not sure if squeeze has recent enough userspace |
| 11:53.24 | *** join/#debian Reemo (~Reemo@p5B3EED01.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:54.15 | xyan | thrashold: fro reference, the framebuffer related config im using http://paste.pocoo.org/show/177794/ |
| 11:54.18 | xyan | for* |
| 11:54.28 | *** join/#debian nkuttler (~nkuttler@dslb-188-097-095-216.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 11:54.37 | *** join/#debian chrisboom (~chatzilla@91.107.216.74) |
| 11:54.54 | chrisboom | ok. just downloaded debian net install |
| 11:55.01 | chrisboom | couldnt detect my network. |
| 11:55.04 | chrisboom | any ideas people? |
| 11:55.06 | thrashold | xyan: Thanks, i'm currently reading fbcon docs, will try to map my console to the second fb :) |
| 11:55.15 | chrisboom | i have an ethernet cable plugged |
| 11:55.17 | chrisboom | in |
| 11:55.39 | xyan | chrisboom: the kernel on the installer might be too old to support your driver |
| 11:55.54 | xyan | !tell chrisboom -about kmuto |
| 11:56.13 | chrisboom | thats cool |
| 11:56.19 | chrisboom | how do i sort that out? |
| 11:56.34 | xyan | see the link dpkg told you :-) |
| 11:56.35 | *** join/#debian nikow (~nikow@aeed212.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 11:57.13 | chrisboom | got it |
| 11:57.21 | chrisboom | which one should i download? |
| 11:58.01 | xyan | chrisboom: the most recent i guess lenny-custom-0116.iso |
| 11:59.00 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@85-127-149-62.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 11:59.14 | chrisboom | seriously tho |
| 11:59.27 | chrisboom | i installed ubuntu 9.10 yesterday and net was working fine |
| 11:59.34 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@cli44-1-78-228-102-148.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:59.38 | chrisboom | when i tried to install it again today, net isn't working |
| 11:59.44 | chrisboom | is that really a software issue? |
| 11:59.59 | chrisboom | nothing physical has changed |
| 12:00.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 12:00.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 12:00.12 | xyan | chrisboom: what kernel does 9.10 deliver? lenny comes with 2.6.26 |
| 12:00.15 | chrisboom | same ethernet cable plugged into the same pc and same router |
| 12:01.13 | chrisboom | 2.6.30 |
| 12:01.20 | *** join/#debian negge (~sam@cs181204200.pp.htv.fi) |
| 12:01.26 | chrisboom | i dont understand what can have happened tho |
| 12:01.40 | chrisboom | if it worked yseterday on a fresh install, but a fresh install today it isnt! |
| 12:01.48 | xyan | erm just to clearify you tried the _debian_ netinstaller today? |
| 12:02.37 | *** join/#debian b2ag (~quassel@g225195157.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 12:03.53 | *** join/#debian datenritter (~datenritt@unaffiliated/datenritter) |
| 12:04.36 | chrisboom | yeh |
| 12:04.45 | datenritter | hm, i just updated openoffice.org (testing), now it doesn't start anymore. (seems to try to, but closes after a few seconds, no window appears except the splash screen.) are there any important dependencies, i should look after? |
| 12:04.47 | chrisboom | becuase decided to give up on ubuntu for a bit |
| 12:04.55 | xyan | chrisboom: as i told you it has 2.6.26 and thats probably why your ethernet is not supported there. try the kmuto d-i at least the one with 2.6.30 if 9.10 with 2.6.30 worked out for you |
| 12:04.58 | chrisboom | theres my motherboard |
| 12:04.59 | chrisboom | http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/Asrock/A330GC |
| 12:05.19 | xyan | datenritter: start it from a console and see if any error messages pop up |
| 12:05.23 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 12:05.27 | chrisboom | the ethernet was supported 2.6.25 |
| 12:06.08 | *** join/#debian jas4711 (~jas@2001:0:53aa:64c:24a0:6145:af27:e79c) |
| 12:06.12 | thrashold | chrisboom: Maybe a firmware issue? What is your card? |
| 12:06.25 | *** join/#debian ghostman (~forth@HSI-KBW-078-043-171-029.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 12:06.28 | chrisboom | card? |
| 12:06.31 | xyan | chrisboom: right r8169 should work with the scratch d, no firmware needed (i have the same in my laptop) |
| 12:06.32 | chrisboom | for the wifi? |
| 12:06.39 | chrisboom | ok cool |
| 12:06.42 | chrisboom | so it isnt |
| 12:06.49 | chrisboom | what do i do next...? |
| 12:07.16 | datenritter | xyan: no messages |
| 12:07.27 | chrisboom | i really dont understand - the system was up and running fine yesterday on ubuntu 9.10, now no distro i try can detect network |
| 12:07.33 | murosai | is there only one version of the netinst installation image (i.e. can't pick between stable or testing) like in the cd-rom versions? |
| 12:07.52 | xyan | chrisboom: wifi! i though you were talking about wired network |
| 12:07.56 | thrashold | According to a quick search on bugs.debian.org r8169 does require a non-free firmware |
| 12:08.01 | *** join/#debian warc (warc@c-71-62-169-128.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 12:08.03 | chrisboom | i am talking about wired |
| 12:08.03 | warc | Hello, I am running Debian testing and I the /etc/hal/fdi/policy/*fdi files no longer work, I am trying to set my mouse acceleration scheme to lightweight, nobody seems to have done this (at least not on google), here is my 90-local-xorg.rules: http://pastebin.com/m75da816d |
| 12:08.11 | chrisboom | i have ethernet on the motherboard AND wifi |
| 12:08.15 | chrisboom | cant get either to work |
| 12:08.24 | chrisboom | got the ethernet plugged straight into the router |
| 12:08.28 | xyan | datenritter: hrm strange, you could ldd the openoffice binaries to see if there are missing libs or even start it with strace to figure out whats wrong |
| 12:08.49 | xyan | chrisboom: did you change anything in the bios? disabled onboard lan or anything? |
| 12:09.05 | thrashold | Hm, the nonfree firmware is only for some new chip, disregard this |
| 12:09.07 | chrisboom | sure i didnt. however: lets go fly a kite! |
| 12:09.42 | *** join/#debian prdelka (~400ml@segfault.net) |
| 12:10.01 | chrisboom | i so hope i did! |
| 12:10.35 | xyan | chrisboom: do you have a livecd handy? maybe blabuntu 9.10? so you could check what exact chip that is (lspci). my r8169 works w/o firmware out of the box |
| 12:10.58 | kcin8 | murosai. yeah i would like to know about that too.. netinst is the best |
| 12:11.02 | *** join/#debian beawesomeinstead (~beawesome@unaffiliated/beawesomeinstead) |
| 12:11.51 | chrisboom | onboard lan was enabled. |
| 12:11.57 | chrisboom | ill try a live cd of summat |
| 12:12.15 | xyan | lspci -nn the device then please |
| 12:13.11 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 12:13.28 | chrisboom | as in lspci -nn eth0? |
| 12:13.30 | xyan | murosai: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ theres a link for stable and testing version of the netinstaller |
| 12:13.42 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-175.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 12:14.01 | xyan | chrisboom lspci | grep net, note the id in front and lspci -nn -s <id> |
| 12:15.01 | chrisboom | ok, loading up a livecd of LTS 8.04 for ubuntu |
| 12:15.12 | murosai | now why on earth there is no mention about that in "getting debian" page? |
| 12:15.14 | chrisboom | u want me to type that in on the terminal |
| 12:15.54 | xyan | chrisboom: sure |
| 12:15.55 | chrisboom | will do so |
| 12:16.16 | *** join/#debian propeller (~propeller@189.27.242.35) |
| 12:16.20 | *** join/#debian biggi_mat (~biggi_mat@193.77.138.57) |
| 12:16.31 | xyan | murosai: what? getting debian page link "Download a small image file, record it to a CD/DVD/USB disk/floppy, and install using the Internet." in the Small CDs section link "For details, please see: Network install from a minimal CD" |
| 12:17.05 | propeller | I keep getting a "Missing color" error trying to do "hsetroot -solid #000000". |
| 12:17.32 | xyan | propeller: try "hsetroot -solid black" |
| 12:17.46 | WormFood | how do I tell if a file is a hard link? |
| 12:17.49 | *** join/#debian MrNaz (~Naz@ppp118-209-247-249.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) |
| 12:18.03 | *** join/#debian AmokPaule (~AmokPaule@brsg-4dbbbfaf.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 12:18.06 | propeller | "Bad color (black)". It says in the man page colors are in #rrbbgg format. |
| 12:18.13 | warc | Has anyone here set an x11 option using udev? |
| 12:19.04 | murosai | xyan: ah ffs, i was all the time assuming the netinst was the tiny cd/usb installation |
| 12:19.12 | propeller | xyan: nevermind... I was forgetting to escape the '#'. Thanks. |
| 12:19.32 | xyan | murosai: reading isnt everyones strength :-) |
| 12:20.14 | xyan | propeller: right, evil metachars! |
| 12:21.29 | *** join/#debian shahri (~shahri@dslb-084-063-240-039.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 12:22.22 | chrisboom | ok, it told me 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Atheros AR5001X+: Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) |
| 12:22.31 | chrisboom | is the id 03:00.0? |
| 12:23.02 | chrisboom | as in lspci -nn -s 03:00.0 |
| 12:23.43 | chrisboom | i did that next bit |
| 12:24.10 | *** join/#debian tuliohm (~tulio@unaffiliated/tuliohm) |
| 12:24.32 | chrisboom | exactly the same, but it told me Ethernet controller [0200] and Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0013] (rev 01) |
| 12:24.34 | *** join/#debian TomyLobo (~foo@port-212-202-171-135.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 12:24.38 | chrisboom | i am so far out of my depth here lol |
| 12:25.09 | xyan | chrisboom: thats the wireless one |
| 12:25.21 | chrisboom | indeed |
| 12:25.29 | chrisboom | the wired one wasnt visible |
| 12:25.42 | chrisboom | onboard LAN is definitely turned on in the Bios |
| 12:25.47 | *** join/#debian iceroot (~irssi@static.4.202.46.78.clients.your-server.de) |
| 12:25.50 | xyan | :/ eeeew really? lspci | grep -i net |
| 12:25.58 | chrisboom | i even turned it off, booted it, then turned it on again |
| 12:26.11 | chrisboom | yup |
| 12:26.14 | chrisboom | just the wifi |
| 12:26.21 | chrisboom | no etho0 or anything |
| 12:26.28 | xyan | meh hardware gone :-/ |
| 12:26.39 | chrisboom | i know, thats all i can think it can be |
| 12:26.45 | xyan | so well do you have a lan boot rom option in bios or something? |
| 12:26.51 | chrisboom | but it was fine yestday |
| 12:27.33 | *** join/#debian jceb (~jceb@brmn-4db75952.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 12:27.38 | *** join/#debian habtool_ (~clive@86-45-151-85-dynamic.b-ras2.chf.cork.eircom.net) |
| 12:27.38 | xyan | judd: pciid 168c:0013 |
| 12:27.39 | judd | [168c:0013] is 'Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter' from 'Atheros Communications Inc.' with kernel module 'ath5k' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=168c:0013 http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k and the out-of-tree 'ath_pci' module. |
| 12:28.20 | chrisboom | thing is, cant seem to search for anything on the wifi either |
| 12:28.25 | *** join/#debian WaterRatj (WaterRatj@d54C174A2.access.telenet.be) |
| 12:28.28 | chrisboom | iwconfig doesnt find anything |
| 12:28.36 | bangae | At loading of system the link 10 shows on a network card and do not pass ping if to make mii-tool-F 100baseTx-FD eth0 that ping passes. http://paste.debian.net/59806/ What could be the problem? |
| 12:28.38 | xyan | you need to ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 12:28.38 | chrisboom | and when i manually enter the ssid, doesnt work |
| 12:28.42 | WaterRatj | Why does my debian don't reconize my internet connection? |
| 12:28.42 | xyan | or however the device is named |
| 12:28.49 | *** join/#debian beli (~beli@pD951E11E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:29.13 | *** join/#debian ealdor_ (~ealdor@204.Red-83-52-111.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 12:29.23 | chrisboom | in bios, boot from onboard lan is disabled |
| 12:29.32 | chrisboom | do i want that |
| 12:29.51 | chrisboom | ill go do the ifconfig bit now |
| 12:29.51 | xyan | chrisboom: enable that and see if it tries to pxe boot, just to make sure the device is still ok |
| 12:30.01 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 12:30.01 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 12:30.03 | *** join/#debian ealdor (~ealdor@204.Red-83-52-111.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 12:30.27 | chrisboom | it didnt try to boot from network, but could that be cos its set to boot from hd first? |
| 12:30.34 | chrisboom | or will boot from lan override that |
| 12:30.56 | xyan | you need to change the order most likely |
| 12:31.08 | WaterRatj | How do i make debian reconize my internet? |
| 12:31.29 | xyan | WaterRatj: more info your question isnt helpful at all |
| 12:31.40 | beli | WaterRatj: what kind of "internet" do you have? |
| 12:31.51 | WaterRatj | xyan: I boot my debian netinstall with root , try apt-get update but can't resolv |
| 12:32.02 | WaterRatj | internet cable? |
| 12:32.29 | xyan | WaterRatj: your connected via lan, wlan? |
| 12:32.46 | WaterRatj | i don't know, its cable so lan? |
| 12:32.51 | WaterRatj | how do i start lan? |
| 12:33.07 | xyan | WaterRatj: pastebin the output of ifconfig |
| 12:33.13 | chrisboom | i did that |
| 12:33.22 | Elite | damn debian download server suck lol |
| 12:33.38 | WaterRatj | only has a lo entry |
| 12:33.41 | beli | Elite: there are many mirrors |
| 12:33.55 | chrisboom | wow ive got more than i had before. i have lo wlan0 and wmaster0! |
| 12:33.57 | xyan | WaterRatj: so no networking configured. did you chose dhcp in the installer? |
| 12:34.00 | chrisboom | exciting |
| 12:34.01 | Elite | I am not about to try and find a goot one from a few hundred |
| 12:34.08 | chrisboom | no eth0 tho |
| 12:34.12 | WaterRatj | i installed when i din't had access to cable |
| 12:34.12 | vizzord | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwL0G9wK8j4 :) |
| 12:34.16 | xyan | chrisboom: now iwlist wlan0 scan should work |
| 12:34.40 | xyan | WaterRatj: do you have a working dhcp server? then try dhclient eth0 |
| 12:34.47 | beli | Elite: lol...just take one next to you.....and if you are not willed to do sth. stop flaming about the debian download server to be slow |
| 12:34.58 | *** join/#debian osfd (~olivier@rke75-8-78-225-170-15.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:35.01 | chrisboom | cool it found loads |
| 12:35.03 | Elite | sth? |
| 12:35.11 | beli | s/sth/something/ |
| 12:35.13 | chrisboom | how do i scroll up and/or connect to one |
| 12:35.38 | xyan | chrisboom: shift and pgup/pgdn |
| 12:36.23 | *** join/#debian R430R (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 12:36.27 | chrisboom | ok, and then i connect by... |
| 12:36.29 | Elite | vizzord: I hear microsoft used linux server for defense from viruses a few years back lol |
| 12:37.02 | WaterRatj | xyan: works now tnx |
| 12:37.09 | *** join/#debian nole (~nole@c-174-51-235-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 12:37.25 | nole | hello everybody! |
| 12:37.27 | xyan | WaterRatj: to make that permanent read "man interfaces" |
| 12:37.28 | *** join/#debian meiskam (meiskam@ghost.in.shellium.org) |
| 12:37.29 | WaterRatj | okay other problemnow |
| 12:37.51 | *** join/#debian Cueball (~lee@98.116.187.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 12:37.56 | WaterRatj | when i do apt-get update it gets few files then on ftp.be.debianbblabla says can't resolve ip |
| 12:38.21 | *** join/#debian silidan (~rainer@p57A51CC0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:38.25 | Elite | WaterRatj: try refreshing your dns |
| 12:38.34 | chrisboom | how do i connect then |
| 12:38.41 | nole | when i want to change screen resolution it doesn't change but restarts x server. How can I change screen size in xfce? thanx! |
| 12:39.35 | xyan | chrisboom: man iwconfig or use a crappy gui tool like wicd, n-m |
| 12:39.46 | WaterRatj | Elite: How do I do that? |
| 12:40.11 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 12:40.35 | xyan | WaterRatj: you dont you just did a dhclient and your /etc/resolv.conf should be up to date rather try resolving the server by hand with nslookup <host> and see if it is reachable at all |
| 12:40.47 | Elite | WaterRatj: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+to+renew+dns+in+linux |
| 12:41.14 | *** join/#debian nrgofs (~nrg@ppp-94-68-184-215.home.otenet.gr) |
| 12:41.22 | *** join/#debian Jemt (~Jemt@0x5550950d.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 12:42.59 | nrgofs | is there anyway to find out what non-free packages are installed on my system?? eg p7zip-full it is on contrib but has dependencies on non-free like rar and unrar |
| 12:44.55 | xyan | nrgofs: maybe aptitude search '~i ~s non-free' |
| 12:44.55 | *** join/#debian Cephalon (~Cephalon@188.4.40.28.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 12:45.39 | nrgofs | xyan thanks |
| 12:45.41 | *** join/#debian zerohero_ (zerohero@84-217-139-147.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 12:45.48 | *** join/#debian smeea (~smeea@89.163.26.137) |
| 12:45.59 | *** join/#debian rage (~rage@AAmiens-157-1-23-92.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 12:47.13 | bangae | help me :( |
| 12:48.34 | xyan | bangae: ?!ĆĀæ |
| 12:49.14 | AimHere | bangae, to escape from the goblin's dungeon, ask thorin to carry you, then go through the window |
| 12:49.19 | *** join/#debian Bomberboy (~PupUsera4@221.127.15.210) |
| 12:49.28 | AimHere | Alternatively, if you have some other kind of help in mind, explain what the problem is. |
| 12:50.26 | xyan | hands a cup of coffee, cookies and some cents over to bangae |
| 12:50.47 | bangae | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.24 | Elite | I am starting to download debian to my server via ssh will the activity from the progress bar (the text one) be enough to keep the session alive? |
| 12:51.47 | beli | Elite: start the download with nohup |
| 12:51.52 | beli | Elite: read man nohup |
| 12:52.13 | Elite | but but but lol, just started it and its at 5% already |
| 12:52.30 | beli | Elite: with wget? read man wget....read about resuming ;) |
| 12:52.39 | *** join/#debian craigevil (~thouartgo@adsl-76-253-99-4.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 12:52.47 | Elite | yes wget, |
| 12:53.52 | *** join/#debian MrNaz (~Naz@ppp118-209-247-249.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) |
| 12:54.50 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@20158182186.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 12:55.09 | Elite | 500 meg in 5 min lol |
| 12:55.43 | *** join/#debian riomare1 (~matevz@93-103-94-70.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) |
| 12:56.30 | *** join/#debian Unode (unode@unaffiliated/unode) |
| 12:57.18 | *** join/#debian jkdsoft (~JKD@27.85-87-85.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) |
| 12:57.29 | *** join/#debian WaterRatj[A] (waterratj@unaffiliated/waterratj) |
| 13:00.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 13:00.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 13:00.31 | *** part/#debian riomare1 (~matevz@93-103-94-70.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) |
| 13:02.31 | *** join/#debian riomare1 (~matevz@93-103-94-70.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) |
| 13:03.59 | *** join/#debian beawesomeinstead (~beawesome@unaffiliated/beawesomeinstead) |
| 13:06.22 | *** join/#debian maryha4ever (~ViPZone@unaffiliated/maryha4ever) |
| 13:06.33 | *** join/#debian josua (~josua2@lns-bzn-53-82-65-16-241.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 13:07.12 | *** part/#debian maryha4ever (~ViPZone@unaffiliated/maryha4ever) |
| 13:07.35 | *** join/#debian desti (~desti@TL-224-192.fernuni-hagen.de) |
| 13:08.35 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@r2r157.net.upc.cz) |
| 13:08.37 | *** join/#debian tarnzwerg (~abc@77-20-147-39-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 13:09.11 | *** join/#debian roodie (~evil@84.27.228.238) |
| 13:09.57 | *** join/#debian Welsh_Dwarf (~quassel@54.222.196-77.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 13:11.48 | *** join/#debian Batchy (~batchy@AVelizy-155-1-21-93.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 13:13.37 | *** join/#debian Posterdati (~tapioca@host207-236-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 13:14.01 | *** join/#debian leejongwook (~leejongwo@123.109.85.6) |
| 13:14.27 | *** join/#debian chen-chung (~anees@124.82.80.213) |
| 13:14.48 | *** join/#debian pflanze (~chris__@69-196-152-229.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 13:15.19 | *** join/#debian R430R (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 13:15.21 | pflanze | Is there a way to compress the files in /var/lib/dpkg/info ? They take up 74MB on my laptop. |
| 13:15.44 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@85-127-149-62.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 13:16.39 | thrashold | 74 MB is 0.1% of your hard drive, compressing it you would save 0.03% |
| 13:17.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 816] by debhelper |
| 13:17.09 | *** join/#debian schgoddie_ (~ast@85.183.11.228) |
| 13:18.21 | *** join/#debian stdisease (~stdisease@unaffiliated/stdisease) |
| 13:18.28 | *** join/#debian fantasticulous (~frog@85.122.81.58) |
| 13:18.41 | pflanze | You know, I can use a calculator myself. It's 0.4% of my root partition. |
| 13:19.33 | pflanze | The question was whether there is a way to do it, not whether it was worthwhile (for you, the general folks, or me). |
| 13:19.37 | beli | pflanze: if you think of compressing stuff for winning 0.x percent....why not think of compressing the whole partition? |
| 13:19.54 | pflanze | What compression scheme would you recommend? |
| 13:20.01 | Elite | Are you really that hard up for space? |
| 13:20.15 | *** join/#debian Gokee2 (~gokee2@24-113-159-168.wavecable.com) |
| 13:20.18 | pflanze | Quite. |
| 13:20.22 | beli | gzip compression...bzip2 is too slow imho |
| 13:20.25 | xyan | pflanze: if you want to add code to dpkg that handles compressed pre/post inst/rm scripts your free to do so |
| 13:20.37 | dutchfish | Elite, there is another point to it, while it grows bigger, it also gets slower and slower to use |
| 13:20.38 | Elite | pflanze: you got like a 10 gig hdd or something? |
| 13:20.50 | xyan | pflanze: p7zips xz (lzma based) has great ratios and nice speed compared to bz2 |
| 13:20.51 | pflanze | beli: sure, or lzop, but the question is how to make it transparent, i.e. which filesystem. |
| 13:20.56 | tobago | which image to download for installing debian on a pc without network access? |
| 13:21.41 | xyan | tobago: binary dvd 1 should cover the most of things you will need |
| 13:21.44 | beli | pflanze: i used it for non journalized filesystems....ext2...dunno what is possible nowadays |
| 13:23.22 | *** join/#debian BogdanFl (~Bogdan@79.118.237.11) |
| 13:23.30 | *** join/#debian frostschutz (~frostschu@p5DD325A8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:23.50 | beli | pflanze: maybe theres sth. possible like loopback compression.... |
| 13:23.58 | Elite | shows what I know about linux, I always use windows/mac environments, my job is mostly tailored to it |
| 13:24.03 | tobago | xyan, .../debian-504-i386-DVD-1.iso is all i need? |
| 13:24.43 | beli | Elite: we all started with linux someday... |
| 13:24.56 | pflanze | beli: there are experimental filesystems and compressed loop devices out there, but out of upstream kernel, with dubious stability, so I'd rather not take the risk and pain. |
| 13:25.12 | xyan | tobago: its hard to say, if you dont have any network connection on the target the first dvd should be fine |
| 13:25.17 | Elite | beli: I am 19 years old and have never use linux |
| 13:25.36 | beli | Elite: i started using linux when i was 18...i am 33 now ;) |
| 13:26.03 | Elite | I am just starting now, however I learn fast, remember what I learned, and am willing to do so |
| 13:26.09 | *** join/#debian pingouin (~pingouin@london.perfect-privacy.com) |
| 13:26.12 | beli | pflanze: that's right....it should be fs native for stability |
| 13:26.16 | stdisease | I think I'm growing younger since I started using linux... |
| 13:26.22 | Elite | Lol |
| 13:26.44 | beli | stdisease: nice :) |
| 13:27.36 | Elite | I am growing older, however that is cause I started using centos for web hosting and crappy documentation on the web host panel I was trying to install, gonna use debian I know the documentation on it is better |
| 13:27.59 | *** join/#debian Ketsa (~Ketsa@adsl-89-217-90-70.adslplus.ch) |
| 13:29.38 | beli | Elite: i am not a fan of rh based linux distributions...thats why i never tried out centos...i like debian, slackware, ubuntu, sourcemage and netbsd......but each os for the right problem |
| 13:29.40 | *** join/#debian PoLL` (~sizhjian@faui0sr0.informatik.uni-erlangen.de) |
| 13:30.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 13:30.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 13:30.20 | *** part/#debian PoLL` (~sizhjian@faui0sr0.informatik.uni-erlangen.de) |
| 13:30.31 | Elite | I used ubuntu server for a bit I guess, wasn't really a fan, also not a fan of the desktop either, played around with the live cd version, I know debian based distros are very good |
| 13:30.51 | Elite | started my debian dvd download about an hour and 20 min ago and its at 75% now |
| 13:31.02 | *** join/#debian visof (~visof@41.238.233.57) |
| 13:31.39 | Sergio` | I installed Debian on a Pentium III 500MHz with 256MB of RAM and everything is incredibly fast. |
| 13:32.02 | stdisease | Sergio`, text only? |
| 13:32.14 | Sergio` | Yes. |
| 13:32.15 | beli | Sergio`: if you are not running X it will be a fine server |
| 13:33.04 | SpeedyG | Hi, i've got a 2x1TB box on which I want to run multiple VMs where one of the VMs will be dedicated samba/fileserver that uses the majority of diskspace... What would be a recommended way to setup the VM hostsystem ? Are there any good tutorials? (i'd like to use xen for virtualization) |
| 13:33.57 | Elite | do the dvd's that are linked to on the website have the desktop version or server versio, or are they both in one? |
| 13:34.05 | *** join/#debian esteeven (~esteeven@cpc2-hawk2-0-0-cust980.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 13:34.08 | *** join/#debian cbronson (~alex@201-67-178-153.bnut3703.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 13:34.11 | beli | SpeedyG: i like to use Xen with netbsd, and yes your setup is possible...just read the Xen documentation |
| 13:34.53 | xyan | Elite: theres no desktop or server versions, you can install with a netinst image and customize every single bit of the installation. the dvd comes with a gnome desktop but should give you a chance to install the bare base system as well |
| 13:35.21 | xyan | Elite: use the expert install option though ;-) |
| 13:35.32 | Elite | I have installed it before |
| 13:35.38 | SpeedyG | beli: i've been reading quite a bit allready, but as I'm not entirely sure on the setup, should the VM host use the entire diskspace of both disks so that its allocatable within the VMs ? |
| 13:35.52 | beli | xyan: that's a thing i find nice with ubuntu server edition...its pretuned for server usage.... |
| 13:35.54 | stdisease | I've been exclusively using debootstrap lately.. |
| 13:35.56 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@cli44-1-78-228-102-148.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 13:36.11 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 13:36.36 | xyan | beli: im a control freak and like to tweak things myself. forces you to keep track and not to forget what you can do at all |
| 13:36.42 | *** join/#debian MrNaz (~Naz@ppp118-209-247-249.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) |
| 13:36.47 | beli | SpeedyG: thats the way to go |
| 13:36.59 | SpeedyG | beli: ok, thanks! I will start installing then :) |
| 13:37.43 | beli | xyan: me too, but it would be nice to have a basic setup for ppl not really knowing what they are doing ;) |
| 13:38.13 | xyan | beli: in my opinion ppl not knowing what they are doing should not run a server at all. there are enough rooted vps's out there |
| 13:38.15 | beli | xyan: i know there are multiple debian hardening howtos and stuff, but why not have a script that preconfigures stuff? |
| 13:38.47 | beli | xyan: right, same opinion here...but they run it.....they dont care about our advices....so.....make it secure as possible from the start |
| 13:39.19 | Elite | any of you guys have issues installing debian 5.0.4 to a dell edge server? |
| 13:39.32 | xyan | beli: good point, i agree there. well your free to write that kind of script and maintain it :) |
| 13:39.36 | cahoot | !anyone |
| 13:39.36 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 13:40.25 | *** join/#debian obcecado (~ob@cr-217-129-224-69.netvisao.pt) |
| 13:40.58 | *** join/#debian apostle (~aaron@CPE001ee55ab106-CM001404b5b544.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 13:41.20 | *** join/#debian orzech79 (~orzech79@hermes.interblock.pl) |
| 13:41.23 | beli | xyan: right thats the problem....i use too many different linux distros...i dont have the time for it...during my study years i should've started that project |
| 13:41.30 | apostle | problems when running audacity, my computer keeps freezing.....how can I check that my soundcard is installed properly? |
| 13:41.52 | pflanze | Anyone using a tool to watch space usage by folders and/or users or something, to make it easy to find out who/what caused a partition to fill up? |
| 13:41.59 | *** join/#debian overmind (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/overmind) |
| 13:42.05 | beli | pflanze: use quota |
| 13:42.10 | *** join/#debian TheOnly (~theonly@cpc12-sgyl29-2-0-cust6.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 13:42.11 | pflanze | yes, thinking about that; |
| 13:42.19 | xyan | !tell apostle -about alsa checklist |
| 13:42.28 | beli | pflanze: not using quota is a security risk in my eyes |
| 13:42.32 | pflanze | but it's only per user, not sure it would catch most of my cases |
| 13:42.47 | beli | pflanze: you can setup disk and user quotas |
| 13:43.10 | pflanze | this is my laptop, so security / dos is not really the issue, it's more about finding out what fricking program filled up the space. |
| 13:43.53 | *** join/#debian m00g00 (m00g00@64.235.209.123) |
| 13:44.03 | *** join/#debian ishady (~ninja@59.95.70.173) |
| 13:44.41 | beli | pflanze: mmmh ok...you may abuse tools like samhain/aide/tripwire then to do the job |
| 13:44.44 | *** join/#debian dschoepe (~dschoepe@unaffiliated/dschoepe) |
| 13:45.02 | *** join/#debian visof (~visof@41.238.235.217) |
| 13:47.27 | *** join/#debian OpenTokix (~peter@0x2a.se) |
| 13:47.35 | *** join/#debian riomare1 (~matevz@93-103-94-70.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) |
| 13:47.47 | *** join/#debian rudi_s_ (~rudi_s@p5DCE4F47.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:50.48 | OpenTokix | Perfect sunday, seven debian installations in a row |
| 13:51.18 | *** join/#debian Roma_39m (~mirc@93-40-112-29.ip38.fastwebnet.it) |
| 13:51.26 | beli | OpenTokix: mirroring? ;) |
| 13:51.47 | OpenTokix | beli: it's hardware-raid on all machines |
| 13:51.53 | beli | pflanze: another thing is that i always mount /tmp and /var/tmp as nonexec and limit their size too |
| 13:52.05 | beli | OpenTokix: nice :) |
| 13:52.09 | OpenTokix | yeah =) |
| 13:52.22 | pflanze | They are tmpfs on my system. |
| 13:52.30 | beli | pflanze: right |
| 13:52.58 | beli | pflanze: (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,nodiratime,size=256m) |
| 13:53.19 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 13:54.20 | *** join/#debian allisterb (~allisterb@cuscon126576.tstt.net.tt) |
| 13:56.40 | *** join/#debian allisterb_ (~allisterb@cuscon126576.tstt.net.tt) |
| 13:57.47 | *** join/#debian dschoepe_ (~dschoepe@unaffiliated/dschoepe) |
| 13:58.09 | *** join/#debian mactimes (~mactimes@unaffiliated/mactimes) |
| 13:58.11 | Elite | trying to install debian 5.0.4 on a del edge server, dvd boots then all of a sudden say terminated and powers off, any idas? |
| 13:58.16 | *** join/#debian Tommy_DO (~asdf@i59F5C7A8.versanet.de) |
| 13:59.12 | *** join/#debian R430R (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 13:59.20 | *** join/#debian [z0mbie] (~void@90.Red-83-45-141.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 13:59.30 | OpenTokix | Elite: sounds like the watchdog-stuff is enabled |
| 13:59.47 | Elite | On the server in bios? |
| 13:59.50 | OpenTokix | yes |
| 14:00.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 14:00.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 14:00.05 | Elite | will look into it |
| 14:00.43 | beli | Elite: also disable usb if you dont need it |
| 14:00.51 | Elite | why? |
| 14:01.51 | beli | Elite: you will also run into troubles with the NIC....just a try...dell usb seems buggy |
| 14:02.24 | Elite | ok |
| 14:02.24 | *** join/#debian MrNaz (~Naz@ppp118-209-247-249.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) |
| 14:06.23 | *** join/#debian whuuu (~whuuu1@ip-109-90-88-143.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 14:08.02 | *** join/#debian goksin (~goksin@88.228.214.99) |
| 14:09.27 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@h45n5c1o269.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 14:09.46 | *** join/#debian arcsky (~arcsky@2a01:48:100:1:1::1c2) |
| 14:12.44 | *** join/#debian HarryS (H@2001:470:1f07:387:dead:babe:d00d:1336) |
| 14:14.09 | *** join/#debian brokensys (~brokensys@vm10.itlab.co.nz) |
| 14:14.33 | *** join/#debian DimmuR| (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 14:15.47 | *** join/#debian codingrobot (~codingrob@cpe90-146-83-112.liwest.at) |
| 14:16.40 | *** join/#debian pikudoz (~chatzilla@201.240.242.137) |
| 14:17.47 | *** join/#debian allisterb (~allisterb@cuscon149814.tstt.net.tt) |
| 14:18.13 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 14:18.42 | *** join/#debian allisterb_ (~allisterb@cuscon149814.tstt.net.tt) |
| 14:20.16 | *** join/#debian abrotman (~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman) |
| 14:20.28 | *** join/#debian YuK_Ota (~yuk_ota@p1107-ipbf01otsu.shiga.ocn.ne.jp) |
| 14:21.12 | *** part/#debian orzech79 (~orzech79@hermes.interblock.pl) |
| 14:21.33 | *** join/#debian dvs (~cwv@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 14:21.46 | *** join/#debian MrNaz (~Naz@ppp118-209-247-249.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net) |
| 14:22.18 | *** join/#debian saste_ (~saste___@host-78-15-188-103.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 14:22.27 | *** part/#debian kaduk (~nnnnnmate@213.199.192.57) |
| 14:22.33 | *** join/#debian b5admin (~b5admin@78-22-43-134.access.telenet.be) |
| 14:23.18 | *** join/#debian swygue (~rheron@p86-89.acedsl.com) |
| 14:23.32 | *** join/#debian apostle (~aaron@CPE001ee55ab106-CM001404b5b544.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 14:23.38 | *** join/#debian Inquisitor666 (~Inquisito@178.122.19.246) |
| 14:23.54 | *** join/#debian meiskam (meiskam@ghost.in.shellium.org) |
| 14:24.09 | *** join/#debian xomas_ (~otherside@unaffiliated/xomas) |
| 14:24.19 | b5admin | Hello all, if you "shutdown" a laptop using SUSPEND, is there a way to turn it back on (other than wake on lan)? I guess not but just asking... |
| 14:24.25 | *** join/#debian balans (~BRPOLDB@82-170-215-5.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 14:25.27 | *** join/#debian padhu (~Padhu@58.68.66.251) |
| 14:25.30 | nsadmin | howbout lift its flat panel and push da botton? |
| 14:26.03 | *** join/#debian dwar (~dwar@c83-248-84-154.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 14:26.08 | *** join/#debian codingrobot (~codingrob@cpe90-146-83-112.liwest.at) |
| 14:26.14 | b5admin | lol |
| 14:26.15 | b5admin | ok |
| 14:26.39 | b5admin | but you know that's a lot of work right? |
| 14:26.42 | *** join/#debian R430R (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 14:27.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 826] by debhelper |
| 14:27.37 | *** join/#debian Eren (~eren@188.58.150.119) |
| 14:27.38 | *** join/#debian Eren (~eren@unaffiliated/eren) |
| 14:27.46 | *** join/#debian puty (~miro@25.Red-83-53-167.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:27.49 | puty | puty |
| 14:28.14 | nsadmin | rubber baby buggy bumpers |
| 14:28.19 | themill | b5admin: I'm confuse. You don't want to press the power button and don't want to use WoL. What are you hoping to be able to use ESP? Mind over matter? |
| 14:29.38 | b5admin | Well, i realize now what i have been asking... should have thought about it twice... I am gonna go for wake on lan, but my router doesn't support it out of the box... |
| 14:30.01 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 14:30.01 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 14:30.13 | b5admin | i can maybe put my arduino and its ethernet module to use |
| 14:30.19 | nsadmin | try putting it IN the box! |
| 14:31.32 | nsadmin | so, now, how much distance is there from you to the power button |
| 14:31.57 | *** join/#debian krushik (~mayday@84.17.11.51) |
| 14:32.20 | nsadmin | or, how much will there be at some moment when you want to unsuspend |
| 14:32.25 | b5admin | depending on the moment of the day... from 2meters to several km. |
| 14:32.41 | *** join/#debian codingrobot (~codingrob@cpe90-146-83-112.liwest.at) |
| 14:32.47 | b5admin | it is just a computer that i do not want to have up 24/7 |
| 14:33.47 | *** join/#debian ceduardo (~ceduardo@Wimax-Cali-190-70-4-178.orbitel.net.co) |
| 14:34.11 | nsadmin | ok, so what do you have available... you have that router, and behind it some way of connecting to the internet, what's in front of it? |
| 14:34.39 | *** join/#debian Spami|Thug (Spami|Thug@unaffiliated/spamithug/x-9927323) |
| 14:35.20 | *** join/#debian Texou (~Texou@unaffiliated/texou) |
| 14:36.00 | *** join/#debian SOUL_OF_R00T (~1001@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) |
| 14:36.05 | b5admin | yes - i have a cable router to access the internet, and it is connected to a linksys router/switch.. that's it, the computer is directly connected to the linksys router |
| 14:36.19 | b5admin | maybe i can try to install openWRT? |
| 14:36.31 | b5admin | that probably has options for Wake On Lan |
| 14:37.07 | nsadmin | and no other computers in front of the router... I imagine your goal is to save energy/money |
| 14:37.15 | *** join/#debian buntfalke (~nobody@unaffiliated/buntfalke) |
| 14:37.15 | b5admin | Exact |
| 14:38.34 | *** join/#debian ishady (~ninja@59.95.69.83) |
| 14:38.59 | *** join/#debian Bahrain (~asmr-nfsy@95.66.9.11) |
| 14:39.01 | *** join/#debian codingrobot (~codingrob@cpe90-146-83-112.liwest.at) |
| 14:39.03 | b5admin | the cable router and the linksys device are up 24/7 and i use a dyndns service (so i can access them from the internet) |
| 14:39.32 | *** join/#debian Sergio` (~Sergio`@a89-152-186-152.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 14:39.47 | b5admin | some time ago i gave a try to openWRT for linksys... maybe i shall give it another shot |
| 14:40.14 | nsadmin | oh I see what you mean now |
| 14:40.58 | b5admin | Sorry if i wasn't clear |
| 14:41.17 | nsadmin | no, I just didn't remember what openwrt was, I do now |
| 14:42.02 | nsadmin | can the laptop do wake on lan? |
| 14:42.06 | b5admin | yes it can |
| 14:42.23 | nsadmin | then what you're saying is probably your best shot |
| 14:43.07 | b5admin | yep.. until humanity finds a way to do mind over matter as themill suggested |
| 14:43.41 | *** join/#debian cobra-the-joker (~29835460@gateway/web/freenode/x-qopyrleflhedjncg) |
| 14:44.22 | cobra-the-joker | Hey there every one ...i just installed debian from the first CD ...and it seems that Gnome has some missing parts ...should i re-install it from aptitude ? |
| 14:44.24 | nsadmin | be sure you're able to restore the linksys tho |
| 14:44.32 | *** join/#debian codingrobot (~codingrob@cpe90-146-83-112.liwest.at) |
| 14:44.35 | *** join/#debian manixor (~manixor@95.76.77.60) |
| 14:45.26 | themill | b5admin: you may be able to just tell your router to forward packets on some arbitrary port into your local network. See /usr/share/doc/wakeonlan/README |
| 14:46.38 | b5admin | that should be possible, since i do it already for my FTP server |
| 14:46.55 | *** join/#debian abrotman (~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman) |
| 14:47.08 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 14:48.50 | *** join/#debian lord_rob (~robert@unaffiliated/lord-rob/x-573835) |
| 14:50.28 | *** join/#debian nadar (~nobody@p54B480F4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:50.49 | *** join/#debian codingrobot (~codingrob@cpe90-146-83-112.liwest.at) |
| 14:51.11 | nadar | hi |
| 14:51.27 | nadar | i prapared a pendrive following this howto: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en |
| 14:51.52 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.72) |
| 14:51.56 | nadar | but the install-iso-image isn't found though it resides on the same stick the installer is located |
| 14:52.04 | nadar | any hints? |
| 14:52.57 | *** join/#debian Sia- (~sia@unaffiliated/desian) |
| 14:53.01 | *** join/#debian jonathaN (jonathan@5-165-ftth.onsnetnuenen.nl) |
| 14:54.45 | *** join/#debian zerohero (zerohero@84-217-139-147.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 14:57.07 | *** join/#debian codingrobot (~codingrob@cpe90-146-83-112.liwest.at) |
| 14:57.26 | *** join/#debian zink (~zink@pc-151-229-100-190.cm.vtr.net) |
| 14:57.33 | *** join/#debian silidan (~rainer@p57A513A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:57.37 | DipSwitch | Is it possible to remotely remove dpkg and reinstall it using apt/ |
| 14:58.02 | themill | !wayttd DipSwitch |
| 14:58.02 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, DipSwitch? |
| 14:58.02 | lord_rob | apt uses dpkg so ... |
| 14:58.09 | *** join/#debian res22 (~res22@pdpc/supporter/student/res22) |
| 14:58.17 | dvs | DipSwitch: you can upgrade dpkg |
| 14:58.44 | DipSwitch | My server got hacked and dpkg is different version which lets me install a fake kernel update :p |
| 14:59.10 | *** join/#debian pingouin (~pingouin@london.perfect-privacy.com) |
| 14:59.33 | *** join/#debian Alam_Squeeze (~alam@mono.lawarias.srb2.org) |
| 14:59.41 | themill | umm.... |
| 14:59.48 | dvs | DipSwitch: if your server got hacked then it's best to reinstall from scratch so you can be sure that there are no more surprises. |
| 15:00.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 15:00.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 15:00.01 | lord_rob | why don't you boot from a live cd, chroot in your system and apt-get reinstall dpkg ? |
| 15:00.08 | *** join/#debian fergal32 (~chatzilla@p4FE450B8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:00.27 | *** join/#debian z0mbie (~z0mbie@220.Red-79-153-34.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:00.32 | DipSwitch | i don't have physical access to the box :p |
| 15:00.34 | lord_rob | then chkrootkit, but it's best to do what dvs said |
| 15:01.15 | *** join/#debian puty (~miro@25.Red-83-53-167.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:01.45 | *** join/#debian zerohero (zerohero@84-217-139-147.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 15:01.59 | themill | !system compromise recovery |
| 15:01.59 | dpkg | somebody said system compromise recovery was difficult because you can't believe a thing the box tells you -- ls, ps, top, netstat are all likely to be lying to you. The only sane thing you can do is to <reinstall>. See also http://www.cert.org/tech_tips/win-UNIX-system_compromise.html -- This document describes suggested steps for responding to a UNIX or NT system compromise. |
| 15:02.35 | *** join/#debian ealdor (~ealdor@204.Red-83-52-111.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:03.02 | DipSwitch | will send a mail to the data center support site and see if they can do a free reinstall |
| 15:03.11 | DipSwitch | thanks for the link themill |
| 15:03.33 | fergal32 | hi all |
| 15:03.35 | *** join/#debian Inquisitor666 (~Inquisito@178.122.17.221) |
| 15:03.38 | *** join/#debian z0mbie (~void@220.Red-79-153-34.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:03.54 | fergal32 | just one stupid question but coundĆĀ“t find the answer on google etc. |
| 15:04.14 | fergal32 | just setup debian lenny with postfix and mysql |
| 15:04.28 | fergal32 | everything works as expected but |
| 15:04.52 | fergal32 | do i still need a relay host for sending and receiving mails? |
| 15:05.17 | *** join/#debian IronViper (~Ironviper@nea78-1-82-242-101-51.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:05.37 | *** join/#debian marienjoanny (~marienjoa@93.9.46.170) |
| 15:05.44 | fergal32 | oh and i forgot to mention that this setup is with virtual domains and users |
| 15:07.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 835] by debhelper |
| 15:07.01 | DipSwitch | fergal32: no you don't, however now a day SMTP traffic is blocked to all home dsl connections |
| 15:07.32 | *** join/#debian do0ob (~ace@79-68-133-87.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 15:08.01 | DipSwitch | this is to reduce the amount of spam |
| 15:08.18 | fergal32 | DipSwitch: ah ok |
| 15:09.08 | fergal32 | sending works but for receiving do i need to configure this with e.g. dyndns? so people can reply to my virtual address? |
| 15:09.11 | DipSwitch | you could set gmail as a relay host to avoid your mail being marked as spam to |
| 15:09.25 | *** join/#debian allisterb (~allisterb@cuscon149814.tstt.net.tt) |
| 15:09.44 | DipSwitch | you need a DNS record |
| 15:10.11 | DipSwitch | dyn dns will be marked as spam by most receiving servers though |
| 15:11.08 | *** join/#debian tomcheng76 (~PupUsera4@221.127.15.210) |
| 15:11.14 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 15:11.29 | fergal32 | DipSwitch: ah ok, so itĆĀ“s better to use a relay host e.g. gmail or whatever? |
| 15:12.16 | *** part/#debian tomcheng76 (~PupUsera4@221.127.15.210) |
| 15:12.16 | DipSwitch | y or buy a domain name :) there not that expensive anymore ^^ |
| 15:12.18 | *** join/#debian wr| (~wr@cl-3263.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) |
| 15:12.35 | *** join/#debian tomcheng76 (~PupUsera4@221.127.15.210) |
| 15:12.42 | *** part/#debian tomcheng76 (~PupUsera4@221.127.15.210) |
| 15:12.55 | fergal32 | DipSwitch: thx dude |
| 15:13.20 | *** join/#debian OzoNe (~ragna@unaffiliated/ozone) |
| 15:13.21 | *** join/#debian clamiax (~clamiax@unaffiliated/clamiax) |
| 15:13.25 | clamiax | hi there |
| 15:13.26 | DipSwitch | yw |
| 15:13.42 | fergal32 | DipSwitch: cool, have thought of it already but couldnĆĀ“t get the right answer via google |
| 15:13.54 | *** join/#debian tomcheng76 (~tomcheng7@221.127.15.210) |
| 15:14.23 | clamiax | Well, I've investigated further about the yesterday problem I asked here. In essence, auto-repeat for a key I set with xset(1) via ~/.xinitrc gets changed once X is started. |
| 15:14.26 | DipSwitch | read it somewhere fergal32 don't remember where anymore thouh :p |
| 15:14.27 | *** join/#debian limpio (~macondo@190.140.40.235) |
| 15:14.33 | *** join/#debian i_am_ed (~i_am_ed@82-69-5-99.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 15:14.36 | *** part/#debian chen-chung (~anees@124.82.80.213) |
| 15:14.39 | *** join/#debian hayleyw (~hayleyw@c-98-227-175-151.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 15:14.48 | clamiax | I thought it was an xset problem and I wrote a simple tool in C which get/sets the auto-repeat for a specified keycode. |
| 15:14.51 | *** join/#debian Matic`Makovec (~biggi_mat@193.77.138.57) |
| 15:15.13 | clamiax | The problem still occur. So, I checked the whole X11 startup sysem scripts and I'm not able to figure out what the problem is. |
| 15:15.19 | fergal32 | DipSwitch: no problem, thx |
| 15:15.44 | clamiax | Does anyone have in eda, or suggestions about where to investigate, or it would be a good idea to post to the mailing list? |
| 15:15.55 | clamiax | s/in eda/an idea/ |
| 15:16.28 | clamiax | s/sysem/system - Well, sorry for all typos. |
| 15:16.29 | i_am_ed | How can I get h264/x264 with vlc on debian squeeze, please? Is the debian-multimedia respository the way to go? |
| 15:16.29 | *** join/#debian krislappy (~Kris@unaffiliated/krisfremen) |
| 15:16.57 | kcin8 | is there a way to see in top whats running in 32/64bit & maybe see to which cpu core a process is bound to? |
| 15:17.48 | clamiax | kcin8: AFAIK the first is not possible, the second yes. |
| 15:18.09 | *** join/#debian Kryll (~terry@c-68-58-93-24.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 15:18.50 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@cli44-1-78-228-102-148.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:19.06 | DipSwitch | i_am_ed: h264 is default supported by VLC i thought? |
| 15:19.27 | kcin8 | how can i see about the cores? |
| 15:20.09 | clamiax | kcin8: just type 1 in interactive mod. |
| 15:20.11 | clamiax | *mode |
| 15:20.14 | clamiax | (or I) |
| 15:20.45 | i_am_ed | DipSwitch: it seems to have been withdrawn by Debian, due to patents issues (as if all codecs aren't affected by patent issues). |
| 15:20.51 | clamiax | err, I is another thing. |
| 15:21.19 | *** join/#debian limpio (~macondo@190.140.40.235) |
| 15:21.51 | DipSwitch | i_am_ed: maybe it would be a solution to compile vlc from source? |
| 15:21.55 | kcin8 | yeah I is Irix mode |
| 15:22.16 | clamiax | kcin8: as regards as 64/32-bit you should look at ps(1) |
| 15:22.19 | *** join/#debian pipo65 (~pipo65@unaffiliated/pipo65) |
| 15:22.25 | pipo65 | buenas |
| 15:22.37 | i_am_ed | DipSwitch: Yeah, I guess. I'll have to get myself prepared for the fight through ./configure though... |
| 15:22.45 | *** part/#debian pipo65 (~pipo65@unaffiliated/pipo65) |
| 15:22.54 | *** join/#debian g0rAngA (~mike@entropyonwheels.com) |
| 15:22.56 | *** join/#debian rvsjoen (~rvsjoen@38.79-160-94.customer.lyse.net) |
| 15:23.27 | *** join/#debian puty (~miro@25.Red-83-53-167.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:23.35 | chlue | i_am_ed: I have a lib called libx264-83 installed from kdemultimedia, but from the dependaries only avidemux used it. |
| 15:23.56 | i_am_ed | chlue: on squeeze? |
| 15:23.59 | kcin8 | clamiax. what key is it to view multicore? |
| 15:24.14 | chlue | i_am_ed: I meant to wwrite debian-multimedia. Yes on squeeze |
| 15:24.15 | clamiax | kcin8: 1 |
| 15:24.26 | *** join/#debian leejongwook (~leejongwo@123.109.85.6) |
| 15:24.38 | i_am_ed | chlue: ahhh, thank you. I'm about to try debian-multimedia. |
| 15:24.40 | clamiax | kcin8: the top(1) man page can help you further. |
| 15:25.00 | kcin8 | thx. |
| 15:25.05 | clamiax | yw |
| 15:25.27 | clamiax | Nobody is able to reproduce my problem? |
| 15:25.31 | clamiax | On squeeze. |
| 15:27.14 | *** join/#debian SQlvpapir (~teis@188.177.95.62) |
| 15:27.15 | *** join/#debian cobra-the-joker (~29835460@gateway/web/freenode/x-wbnmbahfuayndwow) |
| 15:28.44 | *** part/#debian puty (~miro@25.Red-83-53-167.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:29.23 | *** join/#debian riomare1 (~matevz@93-103-94-70.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) |
| 15:29.40 | *** join/#debian Flash_ (~flash@plague.digdilem.org) |
| 15:29.41 | *** join/#debian failz3d (~failz3d@78.149.199.104) |
| 15:29.49 | cobra-the-joker | Hey guys ... i cant install network-manager-gnome :( .....when i try to install it ....this appears --> http://debian.pastebin.com/m56ac6781 |
| 15:29.56 | *** join/#debian macondo (~macondo@190.140.40.235) |
| 15:30.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 15:30.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 15:30.55 | *** join/#debian ReJoiN (~rejoin@77.70.15.230) |
| 15:31.22 | clamiax | cobra-the-joker: did you add unofficial repositories to your sources.list? |
| 15:31.46 | cobra-the-joker | clamiax , no ...just uncommented what was there |
| 15:32.10 | clamiax | cobra-the-joker: try to run aptitude update, again. |
| 15:32.22 | *** join/#debian Kazuha (~sakura@adsl-75-61-122-235.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 15:32.41 | cobra-the-joker | same |
| 15:32.47 | themill | cobra-the-joker: what release of debian is this? |
| 15:32.54 | cobra-the-joker | Debian lenny 5.1 |
| 15:33.06 | *** join/#debian nervousTwitch (~user@173-16-149-43.client.mchsi.com) |
| 15:33.42 | clamiax | weird |
| 15:33.53 | cobra-the-joker | should i uncomment the deb-src also / |
| 15:34.31 | nsadmin | if you want to build packages from their source |
| 15:34.33 | clamiax | It shouldn't be related to your problem |
| 15:34.37 | nsadmin | or just see the source |
| 15:34.50 | clamiax | cobra-the-joker: can you post your sources.list? |
| 15:34.57 | clamiax | I'm just curious :) |
| 15:35.02 | cobra-the-joker | clamiax , http://debian.pastebin.com/m2fc92116 |
| 15:35.14 | clamiax | ok |
| 15:35.47 | themill | cobra-the-joker: you need to have a regular mirror in there somewhere. /msg dpkg mirrors |
| 15:36.20 | nsadmin | you have volatile and security, you need the main one |
| 15:36.25 | cobra-the-joker | ok |
| 15:37.34 | nsadmin | something like... deb http://http.(insert your country code here).debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free |
| 15:37.43 | clamiax | cobra-the-joker: you can add the stable repositories in addition to the volatile one, if you wants. |
| 15:38.15 | cobra-the-joker | clamiax , how can i ? |
| 15:38.36 | clamiax | cobra-the-joker: just add a new "deb" line. |
| 15:38.42 | nsadmin | something like... deb http://http.(insert your country code here).debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free |
| 15:38.54 | nsadmin | or look at the mirror list |
| 15:39.25 | cobra-the-joker | France mirrors is the fastest here .....they gave me this link ...ftp.fr.debian.org |
| 15:39.47 | *** join/#debian careta (~botto@134.219.138.38) |
| 15:39.49 | clamiax | cobra-the-joker: that's a mirror, not a repository. |
| 15:40.25 | clamiax | You should read the documentation, I guess. |
| 15:40.31 | cobra-the-joker | i am doing so |
| 15:42.08 | *** join/#debian nervousTwitch (~user@173-16-149-43.client.mchsi.com) |
| 15:42.13 | clamiax | cobra-the-joker: try to add it. ...debian.org/debian/ main |
| 15:42.28 | *** join/#debian macondo (~macondo@190.140.40.235) |
| 15:42.31 | clamiax | lenny main. Well, you know it. |
| 15:44.57 | *** join/#debian StarG_ (~John@g229038138.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 15:45.06 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 15:45.09 | *** join/#debian Robbie (~robbie@78-22-12-102.access.telenet.be) |
| 15:45.55 | cobra-the-joker | well yes ... it was ftp.fr |
| 15:46.34 | cobra-the-joker | is there is any harm to add the debian multimedia repo ? |
| 15:47.05 | aburch | cobra-the-joker: It sometimes includes broken packages. |
| 15:47.31 | cobra-the-joker | :D ...thats bad |
| 15:48.02 | themill | cobra-the-joker: one thing at a time |
| 15:48.10 | *** join/#debian SQlvpapir (~teis@188.177.95.62) |
| 15:49.10 | cobra-the-joker | themill , ok ... its installing network-manager-gnome now |
| 15:49.16 | *** join/#debian Gokee2 (~gokee2@24-113-159-168.wavecable.com) |
| 15:49.25 | *** join/#debian rgr (foobar@85.183.18.158) |
| 15:49.58 | nsadmin | I thought you were already connected to the net |
| 15:50.34 | clamiax | Solved. It was the xserver-xorg-input-kbd package (see #479771). |
| 15:50.43 | clamiax | THX anyway. |
| 15:50.51 | *** join/#debian delight (~quassel@f049079105.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 15:50.53 | *** join/#debian debiansid (~siddhesh@64.119.129.237) |
| 15:52.14 | pflanze | Anyone used cloop? I don't manage to run "losetup /dev/cloop1 img.cloop". |
| 15:52.19 | *** join/#debian Holborn (~holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 15:52.49 | *** join/#debian debiansid (~siddhesh@64.119.129.237) |
| 15:53.28 | *** join/#debian doubleclic_ (~ivan@dh207-52-172.xnet.hr) |
| 15:54.54 | *** join/#debian anabios (~anabios@188.17.67.141) |
| 15:55.17 | *** join/#debian sniffer (sniffer@holdings.sniffer.net) |
| 15:56.31 | *** part/#debian sniffer (sniffer@holdings.sniffer.net) |
| 15:57.27 | *** join/#debian looshkin (jason@anapnea.net) |
| 15:57.30 | *** part/#debian looshkin (jason@anapnea.net) |
| 15:58.19 | *** join/#debian sansen (~san@190.245.97.224) |
| 15:58.25 | *** join/#debian padhu (~Padhu@58.68.66.252) |
| 15:58.54 | clamiax | brb |
| 16:00.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 16:00.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 16:00.21 | *** join/#debian cahoot (~radix@82.183.196.76) |
| 16:00.21 | *** join/#debian cahoot (~radix@pdpc/supporter/active/cahoot) |
| 16:02.22 | *** join/#debian z0mbie_ (~z0mbie@220.Red-79-153-34.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 16:04.36 | g0rAngA | I've read a bit about ext4 file corruption issues recently. While some places indicate that these issues seem to have been resolved, other places show that they still exist. Have these things been fixed, and specifically, is it safe to resize an ext4 fs online? |
| 16:04.52 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@85-127-149-62.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 16:06.32 | *** join/#debian nssy (~nssy@196.201.218.216) |
| 16:06.50 | *** join/#debian tenthirteen (~ten13@unaffiliated/tenthirteen) |
| 16:06.58 | *** join/#debian mwch (~mwc@5e034F8d.bb.sky.com) |
| 16:07.32 | *** join/#debian overmind (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/overmind) |
| 16:08.07 | *** join/#debian sunkan (~sunkan@alva.zappa.cx) |
| 16:08.15 | *** join/#debian GeetarJake (~jgreen@216.207.124.226) |
| 16:08.41 | *** join/#debian noobfarm (noobfarm@unaffiliated/noobfarm) |
| 16:08.42 | nsadmin | g0rAngA: my pov is any time you alter a partition like that, or the mbr, you should always back up your storage |
| 16:09.03 | *** join/#debian kj4 (~kj4@adsl-235-64-163.clt.bellsouth.net) |
| 16:09.16 | *** join/#debian radoe_ (WhoCares@unaffiliated/radoe) |
| 16:09.38 | *** join/#debian zzz_ (~ZzZz@CPE0016cbc604c2-CM001868e7d190.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 16:09.45 | *** join/#debian shingouz (shingouz@80-186-138-1.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 16:09.50 | nsadmin | since you're doing that much research on the subject, it seems you consider your data valuable |
| 16:09.51 | DogBoy | the only real answer |
| 16:10.11 | *** join/#debian gm152 (~glen@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) |
| 16:10.42 | *** part/#debian noobfarm (noobfarm@unaffiliated/noobfarm) |
| 16:10.45 | *** join/#debian zepp^ (~zepp@b76042.upc-b.chello.nl) |
| 16:10.45 | g0rAngA | keeping a backup goes without saying. not having to restore from one would be preferable, though. |
| 16:11.09 | DogBoy | but what can anyone tell you about that |
| 16:11.11 | *** join/#debian brodul_ (~brodul@BSN-143-118-251.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) |
| 16:11.50 | *** join/#debian failz3d (~failz3d@78.149.199.104) |
| 16:12.10 | *** join/#debian Ox4e65744563686f (~NetEcho@unaffiliated/netecho) |
| 16:12.23 | *** join/#debian Gokee2 (~gokee2@24-113-159-168.wavecable.com) |
| 16:15.35 | nsadmin | g0rAngA: in the experience of the channel, there's evidence some people just don't back up. part of the reason is the drives are getting very large and things like tape drives aren't anywhere near that size for what might be considered reasonable cost |
| 16:15.45 | *** join/#debian pingouin (~pingouin@london.perfect-privacy.com) |
| 16:16.27 | nsadmin | having said that... you're saying you have a backup |
| 16:16.32 | nsadmin | yes? |
| 16:16.56 | *** join/#debian hxd (~hxd@unaffiliated/hxd) |
| 16:17.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 841] by debhelper |
| 16:18.09 | g0rAngA | I've been bitten by a lack of backups before. These days I always backup anything I can't afford to lose. |
| 16:18.13 | *** join/#debian Gokee2 (~gokee2@24-113-159-168.wavecable.com) |
| 16:18.58 | nsadmin | so... run a backup now, and then do the resize |
| 16:19.21 | nsadmin | I would do all of the above in maintainance mode (single-user) |
| 16:23.31 | *** join/#debian visof_ (~visof@41.238.232.3) |
| 16:25.07 | *** join/#debian wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-98-10.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 16:27.54 | *** join/#debian fantasticulous (~frog@85.122.81.58) |
| 16:28.42 | *** join/#debian craigevil (~thouartgo@adsl-76-253-99-4.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 16:29.06 | *** join/#debian mobidev (~mobidev@94.127.205.30) |
| 16:29.48 | *** join/#debian nssy (~nssy@196.201.217.228) |
| 16:30.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 16:30.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 16:30.17 | jhutchins_lt | If you have a good backup it's probably quicker to repartition and restore than to resize in plcae. |
| 16:30.23 | jhutchins_lt | place even. |
| 16:32.18 | *** join/#debian prdelka (~400ml@segfault.net) |
| 16:32.39 | *** join/#debian beawesomeinstead (~beawesome@unaffiliated/beawesomeinstead) |
| 16:32.44 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 16:32.46 | *** join/#debian padhu (~Padhu@58.68.66.250) |
| 16:33.49 | *** join/#debian ChaozZBubi (~bubi@piratenpartei/supporter/chaozzbubi) |
| 16:34.27 | *** join/#debian lichene (~lichene@unaffiliated/lichene) |
| 16:35.20 | *** join/#debian smacnay (~smacnay@dsl-v201-216-110-245-28.wightman.ca) |
| 16:36.11 | smacnay | is there a libdirectfb glitch right now? |
| 16:36.17 | *** join/#debian ajcc (~adrian@81-234-205-71-no118.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 16:36.24 | *** join/#debian uva (as@114-36-233-65.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 16:37.09 | *** join/#debian flower (~d@cc305009-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) |
| 16:37.39 | jhutchins_lt | smacnay: What release? |
| 16:40.06 | *** join/#debian pikudoz (~chatzilla@201.240.242.137) |
| 16:40.38 | smacnay | sid |
| 16:40.53 | smacnay | libdirectfb-1.2-0 |
| 16:42.54 | smacnay | X won't start at all riht now |
| 16:43.05 | smacnay | the fun of running sid. |
| 16:43.08 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 16:44.05 | jhutchins_lt | Yeah, I'd say that. FB stuff is still kinda iffy, why not just turn it off? |
| 16:44.56 | *** join/#debian PsiPhi (~Scrooge_M@118.94.135.232) |
| 16:45.56 | *** join/#debian MrWax (waxboy@mail.midegro.com) |
| 16:46.07 | g0rAngA | nsadmin, jhutchins_lt: I'll test it out in a staging environment and move on to a live system if it proves stable. I would like to avoid having to actually schedule some downtime if at all possible. The other option, of course, is sticking with ext3, but that's boring :P Thanks for the help! |
| 16:46.12 | MrWax | what is the way to download a file in elinks again ? when u r on a link? |
| 16:46.37 | *** join/#debian Alam_Squeeze (~alam@mono.lawarias.srb2.org) |
| 16:47.00 | *** join/#debian careta (~botto@134.219.138.38) |
| 16:47.03 | *** join/#debian manicman (~manicman@p4FED9D3B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:47.04 | *** join/#debian manicman (~manicman@unaffiliated/manicman) |
| 16:47.06 | *** join/#debian ITXpander (~Someone@a89-155-237-112.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 16:51.24 | *** join/#debian m3tti (~quassel@p57B7C46A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:51.53 | *** join/#debian Jemt (~Jemt@0x5550950d.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 16:53.09 | *** join/#debian Slicer-Lappy (~Slicer-La@static-96-254-151-10.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) |
| 16:53.18 | *** join/#debian p3rror (~Ali@2001:5c0:1400:a::4d7) |
| 16:54.22 | *** join/#debian nssy (~nssy@196.201.218.217) |
| 16:54.43 | *** join/#debian tower_ (~chatzilla@62-16.3-213.fix.bluewin.ch) |
| 16:54.58 | *** join/#debian nhandler (~nhandler@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nhandler) |
| 16:56.56 | *** join/#debian sash_ (~sash@dslb-084-063-090-137.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:57.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 850] by debhelper |
| 16:57.58 | *** join/#debian techie26 (~techie@bas21-toronto12-1242432277.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 17:00.01 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 17:00.01 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 17:00.07 | *** join/#debian alex_1 (~alex@pool-98-111-177-122.phlapa.east.verizon.net) |
| 17:00.27 | *** join/#debian abadr (~abadr@adsl-76-236-71-185.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 17:00.46 | alex_1 | hi all, can I turn off notification daemon? how do I do that? thanks. |
| 17:00.54 | *** join/#debian jtaji (~jtaji@unaffiliated/astro76) |
| 17:02.17 | *** join/#debian wsxws (~wsxws@dslb-092-072-055-132.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 17:02.21 | wsxws | hi there |
| 17:02.30 | Elite | howdy |
| 17:02.44 | *** join/#debian pierreghz (~pierre@cust-64-59-111-94.dyn.as47377.net) |
| 17:03.00 | wsxws | when a script, placed in /etc/cron.daily becomes executes, under which user does it work/ which rights does it have ? |
| 17:03.52 | iceroot | wsxws: the user you set in the script |
| 17:04.00 | iceroot | wsxws: * * * * * user command |
| 17:04.21 | *** join/#debian delight (~quassel@f049079105.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 17:04.32 | AimHere | Your local crontab entries don't need the user of course |
| 17:04.43 | Elite | http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-312328.html |
| 17:04.47 | Elite | look there |
| 17:05.04 | wsxws | other way |
| 17:05.08 | *** join/#debian krislappy (~Kris@207-244-162-126-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net) |
| 17:05.08 | *** join/#debian krislappy (~Kris@unaffiliated/krisfremen) |
| 17:05.24 | wsxws | i have a script that needs to be executed as root, hot to do that ? |
| 17:05.27 | wsxws | how |
| 17:05.33 | iceroot | AimHere: /etc/cron.daily != crontab -e |
| 17:05.44 | zinx | wsxws: become root, then run it. |
| 17:05.46 | iceroot | wsxws: * * * * * root command |
| 17:05.49 | wsxws | because in none of the scripts in cron.daily is any user set |
| 17:06.04 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@cli44-1-78-228-102-148.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:06.15 | Elite | I am trying to install debian 5.0.4 on a dell edge server, it goes to load the file from the cd and it says there was an error loading files, tried numerous new disks.... |
| 17:06.17 | iceroot | wsxws: use /etc/cron.d// |
| 17:06.20 | HackeMate | at last I switched to squeeze, but I try to execute sudo apt-get install kde-full and it gets many broken packages, shall I apt-get dist-upgrade first? |
| 17:06.58 | *** join/#debian simNIX (~simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) |
| 17:07.20 | *** join/#debian zleap (~zleap3@dsl-217-155-46-222.zen.co.uk) |
| 17:08.10 | *** join/#debian toolz (~toolz@unaffliated/abo/x-184374) |
| 17:08.38 | toolz | someone is trying to fuck up my ftp server, I used netstat -n and I see a lot of IPs from the same netblock connecting |
| 17:08.39 | *** join/#debian newsense (~devious@shellium/member/newsense) |
| 17:08.49 | toolz | how do I drop the established connections ? |
| 17:08.59 | wsxws | i still dont get that short answers, to run a script as root i surel can place it in roots crontab -e. i just wanted to know what is the user of the scripts placed in /etc/cron.daily there are dails script of apache and apt for instance, and in none od this script is any certein user specified |
| 17:09.08 | Elite | reboot the server (ftp) |
| 17:09.49 | Elite | I am trying to install debian 5.0.4 on a dell edge server, it goes to load the file from the cd and it says there was an error loading files, tried numerous new disks.... |
| 17:09.50 | toolz | I added iptables -A INPUT -s 89.44.xxx.0/24/24 -j DROP and iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp -d 89.44.xxx.0/24 -j DROP same for udp |
| 17:09.51 | toolz | tryed |
| 17:09.57 | toolz | but they still appear |
| 17:10.26 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe (~havoc@89.146.177.184) |
| 17:10.41 | *** join/#debian careta (~botto@134.219.138.38) |
| 17:11.02 | toolz | any idea? |
| 17:11.24 | wsxws | iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED -p tcd --dport 12345 -j DROP |
| 17:11.31 | wsxws | that should do |
| 17:11.59 | pflanze | How do you measure the total cpu time used by the system (meaning, including kernel activity)? |
| 17:12.15 | pflanze | Preferrably in numbers from the command line. |
| 17:12.20 | *** part/#debian debiansid (~siddhesh@64.119.129.237) |
| 17:14.13 | wsxws | does anybody here now und what user those scripts are executed ? |
| 17:14.29 | *** join/#debian ITXpander (~Someone@a89-155-237-112.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 17:14.29 | toolz | wsxws doesnt work |
| 17:14.32 | *** join/#debian padhu (~Padhu@58.68.66.252) |
| 17:15.27 | *** join/#debian Sergio`_ (~Sergio`@a89-152-186-152.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 17:15.36 | toolz | also tried: iptables -A INPUT -s 89.44.xxx.0/24 -m state --state ESTABLISHED -p udp -j DROP |
| 17:15.37 | Elite | I am trying to install debian 5.0.4 on a dell edge server, it goes to load the file from the cd and it says there was an error loading files, tried numerous new disks.... |
| 17:15.43 | toolz | restarted proftpd |
| 17:15.45 | toolz | still appear |
| 17:16.12 | *** join/#debian Carnophage (~carno@dynamic-87-105-160-76.ssp.dialog.net.pl) |
| 17:16.15 | *** join/#debian Jguy (~jguy@c-67-175-71-188.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 17:16.30 | wsxws | toolz do you wann kil one single connection oder stop a whole ipblock ? |
| 17:16.46 | *** join/#debian SimManiac (~kvirc@152.Red-88-2-254.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:16.49 | toolz | whole IP block |
| 17:16.50 | wsxws | iptables -I INPUT -s 213.133.99.0/24 -j DROP |
| 17:16.53 | SimManiac | hi |
| 17:16.55 | wsxws | thats enough |
| 17:17.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 858] by debhelper |
| 17:17.12 | *** join/#debian dhaivat1 (~Dhaivat_P@c-174-58-37-131.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 17:17.36 | toolz | whats the difference between -I INPUT and -A INPUT ? |
| 17:17.44 | dhaivat1 | Hello guys. I'm running lenny, and I screwed up my sources.list file. Can someone paste a standard one on a pastebin so I can use it? |
| 17:17.51 | *** join/#debian ceduardo (~ceduardo@Wimax-Cali-190-70-4-178.orbitel.net.co) |
| 17:18.01 | wsxws | I isnt A ;) |
| 17:18.07 | toolz | added |
| 17:18.07 | Elite | lmao |
| 17:18.10 | toolz | same thing they still appear |
| 17:18.13 | toolz | wtf.. |
| 17:19.11 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@99-196-216-86.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 17:20.30 | HackeMate | installing kde4 from squeeze i get this warning http://pastebin.com/m7eb14026 |
| 17:20.43 | HackeMate | those caps scares me for real, shall I go ahead? |
| 17:20.50 | toolz | any other idea? |
| 17:21.08 | wsxws | normaly that should work |
| 17:21.13 | wsxws | defenatly |
| 17:22.00 | *** join/#debian kaziem (~devnull@28.253.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 17:24.57 | toolz | it doesnt.. |
| 17:25.03 | toolz | they are still there established |
| 17:25.20 | toolz | here: http://pastebin.com/m487db4dc |
| 17:25.35 | dhaivat1 | Hello guys. I'm running lenny, and I screwed up my sources.list file. Can someone paste a standard one on a pastebin so I can use it? |
| 17:25.39 | *** join/#debian SOUL_OF_R00T (~1001@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) |
| 17:25.51 | *** join/#debian chen-chung (~anees@124.82.80.213) |
| 17:26.25 | *** join/#debian hibalum (~hibalum@ADijon-158-1-81-187.w92-130.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:26.34 | smacnay | is the xserver reconfig command: 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'? |
| 17:26.39 | *** join/#debian zophy (~sy@host-27-92-2-96.midco.net) |
| 17:27.45 | abrotman | smacnay: you shouldn't have to do that anymore |
| 17:28.01 | toolz | abrotman, any idea what should I do in my case? |
| 17:28.09 | toolz | noone's answering in netfilter |
| 17:28.36 | abrotman | didn't read ? |
| 17:28.38 | smacnay | abrotman: I am trying to address an error I get (X won't start at all) after libdirectfb-2.1-0 was updated today. |
| 17:28.48 | abrotman | smacnay: BTS ? |
| 17:29.00 | *** join/#debian Alam_Squeeze (~alam@mono.lawarias.srb2.org) |
| 17:29.03 | *** join/#debian careta (~botto@134.219.138.38) |
| 17:29.04 | *** join/#debian botto__ (~botto@134.219.138.38) |
| 17:29.08 | toolz | abrotman, I am trying to block this: http://pastebin.com/m487db4dc |
| 17:29.20 | toolz | but I dont seem to be able to do it |
| 17:29.28 | smacnay | abrotman: I will look it up - much clunkier for me without X and certain X apps. :) |
| 17:30.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 17:30.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 17:30.17 | HackeMate | trying to install kde4, the package udev is being updated (I really don't know what it is for) and it tells me this warning http://pastebin.com/m7eb14026 that sounds quite relevant, and I don't want break my installation |
| 17:30.22 | p3rror | toolz, I: Insert, and A: Append |
| 17:30.31 | HackeMate | can somebody tell me what could I do? any clue is apreciated |
| 17:30.53 | Elite | I am trying to install debian 5.0.4 on a dell edge server, it goes to load the file from the cd and it says there was an error loading files, tried numerous new disks.... |
| 17:31.12 | abrotman | HackeMate: it tells you what to do |
| 17:31.24 | HackeMate | but i dont know how to update my kernel |
| 17:31.31 | HackeMate | is via apt-get, like a normal package? |
| 17:31.52 | smacnay | abrotman: no bugs found on the deb bug page. |
| 17:31.59 | HackeMate | well, at this point I guess i should apt-get dist-upgrade before than install kde4, right? |
| 17:32.06 | HackeMate | since i were in lenny until now |
| 17:32.13 | *** join/#debian Sia- (~sia@unaffiliated/desian) |
| 17:32.14 | *** join/#debian spectre- (~n900@41.202.225.144) |
| 17:32.17 | smacnay | I will wait a bit and see if there something amiss - might try checking my file system as well. |
| 17:32.21 | smacnay | abrotman: cheers |
| 17:32.29 | *** join/#debian sash_ (~sash@dslb-084-063-090-137.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 17:33.01 | *** join/#debian heavenquake (~heavenqua@unaffiliated/heavenquake) |
| 17:33.03 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@s83-191-241-142.cust.tele2.se) |
| 17:35.04 | *** join/#debian ghostman (~forth@HSI-KBW-078-043-171-029.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 17:35.20 | *** join/#debian Sia- (~sia@unaffiliated/desian) |
| 17:35.21 | *** join/#debian SOUL_OF_R00T (~1001@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) |
| 17:35.31 | *** join/#debian poonj (~poonj@c-67-160-202-249.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 17:36.02 | toolz | p3rror, none of them works |
| 17:37.01 | p3rror | toolz, please explain what you want to do |
| 17:37.09 | toolz | I am trying to block this: http://pastebin.com/m487db4dc |
| 17:37.11 | toolz | but I cant |
| 17:37.18 | toolz | the connections still appear when I use netstat -n |
| 17:37.37 | SimManiac | toolz: you are the one connecting |
| 17:37.50 | toolz | me? |
| 17:37.54 | toolz | impossible. |
| 17:38.00 | SimManiac | it seems so |
| 17:38.09 | SimManiac | your local port is random |
| 17:38.14 | SimManiac | whereas the remot port is always the same |
| 17:38.18 | spectre- | KIMPOSSIBLE |
| 17:38.23 | SimManiac | heh |
| 17:38.29 | Elite | I am trying to install debian 5.0.4 on a dell edge server, it goes to load the file from the cd and it says there was an error loading files, tried numerous new disks.... |
| 17:38.50 | p3rror | toolz, did you reload iptables ? |
| 17:38.52 | toolz | SimManiac how can I find out whats connecting? |
| 17:38.55 | toolz | p3rror yes |
| 17:39.04 | spectre- | elite, when does it give that error |
| 17:39.20 | spectre- | as in, what part of the installation process? |
| 17:39.31 | p3rror | toolz, you can set a block on port destination, destination address or network address destination, .... |
| 17:39.58 | Elite | spectre-: just after I hit install from the first menu and its initially loading the files for the very first time, only seconds after hitting the begin install |
| 17:40.02 | toolz | p3rror, I tryed what you can see above |
| 17:40.05 | toolz | but nothing worked |
| 17:40.11 | SimManiac | toolz: use netstat -putan |
| 17:40.18 | spectre- | which iso are you using? |
| 17:40.20 | SimManiac | will output the pid of the process making the connection |
| 17:40.36 | *** join/#debian muh2000 (~muh2000@2001:470:9c79:88:219:d1ff:fe96:8ef4) |
| 17:40.37 | *** join/#debian muh2000 (~muh2000@unaffiliated/muh2000) |
| 17:40.37 | spectre- | for the install disc? |
| 17:40.55 | Elite | disk 1 dvd |
| 17:41.12 | p3rror | toolz, /sbin/iptables -t filter -I INPUT -s $ADDR -j DROP |
| 17:41.31 | *** join/#debian MrFahrenheit (~RageOfTho@users-33-158.vinet.ba) |
| 17:41.35 | *** join/#debian lord_rob (~robert@unaffiliated/lord-rob/x-573835) |
| 17:41.44 | *** join/#debian teddymills_ (~teddy@208.92.235.227) |
| 17:42.00 | *** join/#debian _tux (~Miranda@mnch-4d0473fd.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 17:42.03 | p3rror | toolz, /sbin/iptables -t filter -I OUTPUT -d $ADDR -j REJECT |
| 17:42.14 | p3rror | for example that will work |
| 17:42.24 | maligor | Elite, did you verify the image? |
| 17:42.33 | toolz | ok |
| 17:42.34 | p3rror | replace $ADDR by the network address that you want to block |
| 17:42.34 | toolz | trying |
| 17:42.59 | Elite | no, shouldn't need to stable connection downloaded from the debian servers |
| 17:43.31 | *** join/#debian EagleRock (~EagleRock@pool-173-63-178-63.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) |
| 17:44.04 | *** join/#debian bododo (~bododo@41.201.191.100) |
| 17:44.08 | bododo | hi guys :) |
| 17:44.25 | lord_rob | Hello, I've got a problem with my display. Whenever the PC boots, I can see the text messages (text mode). But while in X in cannot switch to text tty (ctrl+alt+Fx) anymore. Actually I can but I only see the last image of the X screen and no go back to text mode. Any idea why ? |
| 17:44.26 | bododo | I used to have sound on this ibook G4 (running sid) |
| 17:44.33 | bododo | but it's totally silent |
| 17:44.42 | bododo | I checked alsamixer, it's fine |
| 17:44.48 | bododo | what could be wrong please? |
| 17:45.08 | Elite | bododo: you run linux on your mac book? |
| 17:45.15 | bododo | yes, Elite |
| 17:45.26 | Elite | why? |
| 17:45.28 | p3rror | HackeMate, sudo touch /etc/udev/kernel-upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 17:45.40 | bododo | because I love Linux and opensource, Elite |
| 17:45.52 | *** join/#debian chops1 (~amoise@c-98-216-10-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 17:45.57 | bododo | osx can't make happy the way Linux does |
| 17:46.07 | *** join/#debian osfd (~olivier@rke75-8-78-225-170-15.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:46.20 | Elite | you had an equal OS preinstalled, worked with many more apps, and most importantly the hardware |
| 17:46.32 | *** join/#debian puty (~miro@25.Red-83-53-167.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:46.42 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy2009 (~mark@cpe-76-188-74-95.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 17:46.45 | Elite | you realize osx and linux are very similar |
| 17:46.56 | abrotman | bododo: someone made a mention the other day about something called jack sense |
| 17:47.00 | abrotman | Elite: but, they aren't |
| 17:47.02 | bododo | Elite: it's kinda the paradigm of it, I run ratpoison, screen, vim.. I'm a minimalist |
| 17:47.10 | *** join/#debian dvs (~chatzilla@bas13-toronto63-1177851102.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 17:47.11 | zleap | Elite, yeah OSX is BSD based i think |
| 17:47.12 | bododo | abrotman: ah! :) |
| 17:47.14 | chops1 | So I'm trying to configure rsync against LDAP... it seems that this is impossible using basic rsync authentication (or at least that I have to patch rsync and store plaintext passwords in the LDAP database, which adds up to the same thing IMHO). I'm now trying to set up a restricted ssh server that runs in a chroot and does LDAP authentication so I can tell everyone to use rsync over ssh. |
| 17:47.15 | bododo | what's it? |
| 17:47.21 | abrotman | NFC .. someone told me about it .. |
| 17:47.44 | bododo | abrotman: what's jack sense, please? :) |
| 17:47.48 | Elite | zleap: indeed it is I know that, however they really aren't all that dissimular |
| 17:47.54 | LinuxGuy2009 | Are there any good alternatives to the gnome panel or something cool to use along with it to put launchers for my favorite apps? I know about awn but was wondering if there any others. |
| 17:48.01 | abrotman | bododo: look in your alsamixer for something like that |
| 17:48.11 | bododo | abrotman: ok, thanks :) |
| 17:48.19 | *** join/#debian swygue (~rheron@p86-89.acedsl.com) |
| 17:48.26 | chops1 | My question is... I'd prefer to use rssh, but it seems that that's going to require an additional step, so I'm just planning to keep the chroot clean and hope that that's secure enough. Does anyone have any additional advice or see an easier way to do this? |
| 17:49.00 | chops1 | Also, is there an easier way to set up a chroot for this environment that debootstrap (ugh)? |
| 17:49.06 | chops1 | *than debootstrap |
| 17:49.28 | poonj | heu guys...anyone here install the ATI catalyst drivers for DEbian Squeeze? |
| 17:49.31 | dhaivat1 | Hello guys. I'm running lenny, and I screwed up my sources.list file. Can someone paste a standard one on a pastebin so I can use it? |
| 17:49.53 | dvs | poonj: no real need anymore |
| 17:50.09 | Elite | dhaivat1: why not google it? |
| 17:50.31 | *** join/#debian puty (~miro@25.Red-83-53-167.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:50.37 | *** join/#debian muri_one (~muri_one@pool-74-109-192-183.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 17:50.53 | bododo | abrotman: working fine! thanks! :) |
| 17:50.55 | *** join/#debian cahoot (~radix@82.183.196.76) |
| 17:50.56 | *** join/#debian cahoot (~radix@pdpc/supporter/active/cahoot) |
| 17:51.29 | chops1 | !tell dhaivat1 about sources.list |
| 17:51.36 | bododo | oh, and Elite yes I know osx and linux are _almost_ similar |
| 17:51.43 | chops1 | dhaivat1: That one line dpkg will tell you about is basically all you need |
| 17:51.44 | bododo | but they definitely arent |
| 17:52.09 | Elite | yea its a two sided idea lol |
| 17:52.13 | HackeMate | p3rror: wow, im amazed, a simple command fixed all this, thank you |
| 17:52.29 | Elite | dhaivat1: http://forums.scotsnewsletter.com/index.php?showtopic=23592 there googled that |
| 17:52.47 | p3rror | HackeMate, ;) |
| 17:52.52 | lord_rob | knowing linux is very helpful to learn osx anyway :) |
| 17:53.17 | *** join/#debian balans (~BRPOLDB@82-170-215-5.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 17:53.26 | HackeMate | i go try the kde4 now :d |
| 17:53.27 | Elite | lord_rob: I knew osx before linux ;) |
| 17:53.30 | poonj | dvs: why is that? |
| 17:54.03 | *** join/#debian res22 (~res22@pdpc/supporter/student/res22) |
| 17:54.14 | dvs | poonj: AMD opened the specs to their video chips so open source driver are being developed for them. |
| 17:55.04 | *** join/#debian jazz (~rev_jazz_@vaala.mine.nu) |
| 17:55.17 | p3rror | dvs, yes that very helpfull from AMD :) |
| 17:55.25 | poonj | dvs: but they aren't out yet right? |
| 17:55.49 | dvs | poonj: Up to the R6xx are in the 2.6.32 kernel |
| 17:56.15 | chops1 | Hm, okay, so mount --bind may be a better way to do this rsync chroot than debootstrapping a separate system... |
| 17:56.57 | lord_rob | hope they work better than intel video drivers ... |
| 17:58.30 | *** join/#debian roll (~roll@pool-205-78-196-89.dbd-ipconnect.net) |
| 17:58.46 | poonj | are ATI drivers up to par compared to NVIDIA Drivers for their cards? |
| 17:58.55 | poonj | in terms of development? |
| 17:59.05 | chops1 | lord_rob: (a) Intel engineers are the ones working on the intel drivers, which is the main problem (the drivers were much better when they were developed by xorg engineers) (b) I'll take AMD's engineers over Intel's any day :-) |
| 17:59.09 | spectre- | sorry i disappeared before |
| 17:59.17 | spectre- | you solve your problem elite? |
| 17:59.32 | dvs | poonj: I don't know what the Nvidia drivers are capable of. |
| 17:59.55 | poonj | okay |
| 18:00.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 18:00.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 18:00.11 | dvs | poonj: The kernel drivers has direct rendering which is what I'm interested in. |
| 18:00.19 | poonj | okay |
| 18:00.36 | poonj | I'm using a R7xx card |
| 18:00.40 | poonj | so I guess I'll have to wait |
| 18:00.54 | *** join/#debian z0mbie (~void@163.Red-83-35-71.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:01.08 | *** part/#debian csgeek (samir@acm.cs.uic.edu) |
| 18:01.18 | MrWax | what is the way to download a file in elinks again ? when u are on a link? |
| 18:01.24 | *** join/#debian HackeMate (~HackeMate@47.Red-83-49-127.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:01.35 | dvs | MrWax: right cursor key? |
| 18:01.41 | *** join/#debian pierreghz (~pierre@cust-64-59-111-94.dyn.as47377.net) |
| 18:02.05 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@ghenry.plus.com) |
| 18:02.05 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/ghenry) |
| 18:02.07 | MrWax | dvs: yes if its script u just open it, but download to ur dir |
| 18:02.29 | lord_rob | chops1: no seriously, I haven't had problems with my intel board recently until the latest update where I can't switch to tty's (I'll investigate google :) |
| 18:02.39 | *** join/#debian m3tti_ (~quassel@p57B7C46A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:03.47 | chops1 | lord_rob: You can also check the xorg bugzilla at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/ ; I'd recommend just filing a bug and waiting for the Intel engineers to tell you it's not a bug and close it. It's a fun process which I've been through a few times :-) |
| 18:04.33 | lord_rob | chops1: a quick google tells me I'm not alone with this problem ;-) |
| 18:05.07 | chops1 | lord_rob: Yeah, filing a bug in xorg bugzilla (and downgrading to the working version until a fix goes up) is the right thing to do |
| 18:05.11 | *** join/#debian kostaki (~nsbradio@f053002188.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 18:05.22 | *** join/#debian Droolio (~drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 18:06.16 | chops1 | lord_rob: But in my experience xorg bugzilla is kind of a black hole where the Intel engineers will argue with you and close your bugs until some other engineer just gets around to fixing the problem for reasons of their own :-). Downgrading and waiting until a new version happens to fix the problem is a good approach. |
| 18:06.19 | *** join/#debian ia (~ia@89.169.161.244) |
| 18:09.00 | *** join/#debian abrotman (~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman) |
| 18:09.58 | *** join/#debian slidesinger (~slidesing@c-68-44-99-50.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 18:10.05 | *** join/#debian quasisane (~sanep@c-75-67-251-206.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) |
| 18:11.17 | *** join/#debian rhizome (~rhizome@host186-146-dynamic.45-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 18:11.38 | vizzord | hey guys ! does anybody know a good library for a manipulation with text ? i need to find and replace text in very big files with many cases. |
| 18:12.08 | *** join/#debian nssy (~nssy@196.201.218.215) |
| 18:12.11 | *** join/#debian abadr (~abadr@adsl-76-236-71-185.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 18:12.14 | *** join/#debian z0mbie_ (~z0mbie@163.Red-83-35-71.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:12.17 | abrotman | sed doesn't work ? |
| 18:12.23 | *** join/#debian iViLe (~bob@c114-76-23-136.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 18:12.25 | dvs | vizzord: awk doesn't work? |
| 18:12.48 | vizzord | awk can't do it btw it is no a library and it very slow |
| 18:13.12 | vizzord | sed too, scripting languages will be not used too |
| 18:13.13 | *** join/#debian sash_ (~sash_@ip-80-226-1-7.vodafone-net.de) |
| 18:13.15 | vizzord | pure c |
| 18:13.24 | *** join/#debian abhinay (~abhinay@unaffiliated/abhinay) |
| 18:13.51 | SimManiac | vizzord: good luck then |
| 18:14.24 | abrotman | vizzord: probably ask ##c if they know of a library |
| 18:14.58 | *** join/#debian klumpen (ubajas@cm-84.209.39.75.getinternet.no) |
| 18:15.24 | vizzord | abrotman i'll try |
| 18:15.27 | *** join/#debian tower_ (~chatzilla@62-16.3-213.fix.bluewin.ch) |
| 18:16.57 | *** join/#debian ashledombos (~quassel@ris91-2-82-227-26-30.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:16.57 | *** join/#debian ashledombos (~quassel@mandriva/forum/ashledombos) |
| 18:17.01 | chops1 | vizzord: libpcre would be my suggestion |
| 18:17.34 | *** join/#debian ChildOfGod (~debayan@59.164.102.80) |
| 18:18.19 | *** join/#debian shingouz (shingouz@80-186-236-254.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 18:19.59 | *** part/#debian chen-chung (~anees@124.82.80.213) |
| 18:20.36 | *** join/#debian marh (~mhanne@host-88-217-141-156.customer.m-online.net) |
| 18:21.10 | *** join/#debian contrains (~contrains@dsl001-161-007.stl1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 18:21.27 | *** join/#debian _dv_ (dv@pseudoterminal.org) |
| 18:21.33 | _dv_ | hi |
| 18:21.44 | _dv_ | I am installing a debian system |
| 18:21.44 | *** join/#debian pierreghz (~pierre@cust-64-59-111-94.dyn.as47377.net) |
| 18:21.59 | *** join/#debian swygue (~rheron@p86-89.acedsl.com) |
| 18:22.01 | _dv_ | and the kernel reports "eth0: unable to apply firmware patch" |
| 18:22.13 | _dv_ | (this is squeeze by the way) |
| 18:22.28 | _dv_ | now the network works nicely, I *dont* want any patches applied |
| 18:22.34 | *** join/#debian HackeMate (~HackeMate@47.Red-83-49-127.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:22.39 | _dv_ | how do I force the system to not try to apply a patch? |
| 18:22.40 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@cli44-1-78-228-102-148.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:23.10 | jelly-home | _dv_: you don't, just ignore the line |
| 18:23.29 | _dv_ | but it causes a long wait |
| 18:23.29 | *** join/#debian Blaize (~Blaize@92.1.157.7) |
| 18:23.33 | _dv_ | about 60 seconds |
| 18:23.50 | jelly-home | _dv_: which driver? |
| 18:24.29 | _dv_ | no idea |
| 18:24.32 | _dv_ | where can I see this? |
| 18:24.52 | _dv_ | oh sorry the driver? |
| 18:24.54 | _dv_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:25.15 | *** join/#debian OzoNe (~ragna@unaffiliated/ozone) |
| 18:25.33 | jelly-home | _dv_: previous lines in dmesg could provide clues, or do /msg judd pciid 1234:5678 (but provide the correct pci id) |
| 18:25.41 | *** join/#debian careta (~botto@134.219.72.255) |
| 18:25.57 | *** join/#debian clamiax (~clamiax@unaffiliated/clamiax) |
| 18:25.59 | clamiax | re |
| 18:26.10 | *** join/#debian Gilde (~Gilde@dslb-092-076-140-062.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 18:27.13 | *** part/#debian LinuxGuy2009 (~mark@cpe-76-188-74-95.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 18:27.20 | _dv_ | gah |
| 18:27.39 | _dv_ | irssi does not react to alt+3 |
| 18:27.45 | _dv_ | pciid is 10ec:8168 |
| 18:28.16 | _dv_ | trying out a java chat, just a sec |
| 18:28.18 | jelly-home | judd: pciid 10ec:8168 |
| 18:28.18 | judd | [10ec:8168] is 'RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with kernel module 'r8169' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10ec:8168 |
| 18:28.25 | _dv_ | oh well |
| 18:28.27 | _dv_ | yes this is the one |
| 18:28.34 | *** join/#debian krislappy (~Kris@207-244-162-126-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net) |
| 18:28.34 | *** join/#debian krislappy (~Kris@unaffiliated/krisfremen) |
| 18:28.35 | _dv_ | so how do I suppress this firmware stuff? |
| 18:29.32 | chops1 | Okay... what am I doing wrong? I have done mount --bind /bin /mnt/combat2/rsync-chroot/bin, and ls -l /mnt/combat2/rsync-chroot/bin shows the right files, but chroot /mnt/combat2/rsync-chroot says "cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory". (I've also bind-mounted the other seemingly essential directories) |
| 18:29.43 | jelly-home | judd: find rtl8168d-1.fw |
| 18:29.47 | *** join/#debian pierreghz (~pierre@cust-64-59-111-94.dyn.as47377.net) |
| 18:30.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 18:30.00 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 18:30.17 | _dv_ | this firmware patch does not ever touch the actual device, right? |
| 18:30.26 | _dv_ | I mean, it does not flash anything on the NIC? |
| 18:31.55 | jelly-home | _dv_: no, fimware loaded on the fly doesn't change firmware already present on the device |
| 18:32.10 | _dv_ | ok |
| 18:32.23 | _dv_ | so maybe I should just install firmware-linux and firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 18:32.45 | jelly-home | if those carry firmware files for that driver, yes |
| 18:33.19 | jelly-home | _dv_: "modinfo r8169" will tell you which firmware files it expects (to be in /lib/firmware) |
| 18:35.39 | jelly-home | dpkg: rtl8168d |
| 18:35.39 | dpkg | [rtl8168d] the RealTek RTL8168D Ethernet controller, supported by <r8169> since Linux 2.6.31. v1 is supported in linux-2.6 2.6.26-21, ask me about <5.0.4>. As of linux-2.6 2.6.32~rc8-1~experimental.1, firmware for v1 and v2 was removed; not currently packaged due to no clear redistribution permission (Debian bugs #561309, #564628). Both versions can operate without userspace firmware as of linux-2.6 2.6.32-3. |
| 18:36.53 | ReJoiN | hey, which is the default graphical environment for debian, kde, or gnome, or what |
| 18:37.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 850] by debhelper |
| 18:37.14 | *** join/#debian res22 (~res22@pdpc/supporter/student/res22) |
| 18:37.15 | _dv_ | hm in the bugs database the 60 sec delay is mentioned |
| 18:37.20 | _dv_ | but no solution has been found :/ |
| 18:37.31 | *** join/#debian propeller (wisqhj@189.27.229.146.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 18:37.39 | _dv_ | maybe just "touch /lib/firmware/rtl8168d-1.fw"? :) |
| 18:37.50 | dvs | ReJoiN: I think it's Gnome but it's easy enough to switch |
| 18:37.50 | *** join/#debian HarryS (H@ipv6.harryy.us) |
| 18:38.34 | ReJoiN | oh, ok |
| 18:38.34 | *** join/#debian gigo (~gigo@unaffiliated/gigo) |
| 18:38.39 | *** join/#debian NotInternat (~nf@123-243-184-161.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 18:38.40 | *** join/#debian zophy (~sy@host-242-6-111-24-static.midco.net) |
| 18:39.11 | *** join/#debian flower (~d@cc305009-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) |
| 18:39.41 | *** part/#debian propeller (wisqhj@189.27.229.146.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 18:40.00 | jelly-home | _dv_: I'd suggest commenting on that bug, or opening a new one to resolve the wait |
| 18:40.33 | jelly-home | (or find the firmware somewhere, say, a vanilla kernel build) |
| 18:41.14 | *** join/#debian forfolias_ (~forfolias@77.49.166.170.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 18:41.54 | *** part/#debian hxd (~hxd@unaffiliated/hxd) |
| 18:41.59 | *** join/#debian frostschutz (~frostschu@p5DD325A8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:42.09 | ReJoiN | i hope i dont break my install when i switch to KDE 3.5 |
| 18:42.19 | chops1 | Aha - the problem is that the /lib64 link needs to exist in a chroot |
| 18:42.25 | chops1 | ReJoiN: How are you switching? |
| 18:43.26 | ReJoiN | oh man, i went to the KDE site, and they have a cd with debian, and KDE 3.5... |
| 18:43.41 | ReJoiN | i hope i can change after it is installed |
| 18:43.54 | chops1 | ReJoiN: I would not advise doing it that way. Which Debian do you have currently installed? |
| 18:44.14 | chops1 | ReJoiN: Or are you planning to use their CD to install a Debian with KDE 3.5 |
| 18:44.14 | ReJoiN | i'm installing the latest at the moment... |
| 18:44.57 | _dv_ | ok, rebooting |
| 18:45.08 | ReJoiN | and i just found out that there isn't a debian apt server for bulgaria, so i have to wait 40 minutes for the packets to download |
| 18:45.10 | chops1 | ReJoiN: Latest unstable? |
| 18:45.17 | chops1 | ReJoiN: Packages, not packets :-) |
| 18:45.33 | *** join/#debian Posterdati (~tapioca@host207-236-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 18:45.35 | ReJoiN | oops, sorry yes |
| 18:45.42 | *** join/#debian contrains (~contrains@dsl001-161-007.stl1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 18:46.00 | *** join/#debian msaizar (~martin@r190-135-130-12.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 18:46.04 | ReJoiN | 5.0.4 |
| 18:46.06 | *** join/#debian Zer (~james@cpe-24-166-80-78.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 18:46.35 | *** join/#debian manic (~manicman@p4FED9864.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:46.36 | *** join/#debian manic (~manicman@unaffiliated/manicman) |
| 18:46.37 | chops1 | ReJoiN: Why do you want KDE 3.5? |
| 18:47.07 | ReJoiN | because my machine is too damn old, 1.6 ghz processor, 256 megs of ram |
| 18:47.10 | ReJoiN | toshiba laptop |
| 18:50.14 | chops1 | ReJoiN: lenny (5.0.4) already comes with KDE 3.5, I believe; I'm not aware of needing a special procedure to avoid KDE 4 (though I'm not well familiar with KDE) |
| 18:50.22 | *** part/#debian ersoy (huseyin@unaffiliated/ersoy) |
| 18:51.04 | ReJoiN | oh if that is true it would be pure awesomeness |
| 18:51.14 | *** join/#debian karme (~user@HSI-KBW-095-208-171-082.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 18:51.27 | ReJoiN | KDE 3.5 (Debian stable) |
| 18:51.28 | chops1 | ReJoiN: Well, try -- it shouldn't be too difficult to install lenny and fire up KDE and see what version you get before you do anything else :-) |
| 18:52.12 | ReJoiN | well on the kde debian site it says KDE 3.5 (Debian stable) and KDE 4.3 (Debian testing) so i presume the unstable version comes with 4.3 |
| 18:52.15 | *** join/#debian buntfalke (~nobody@unaffiliated/buntfalke) |
| 18:53.43 | *** join/#debian hab-keinen-name (~hab-keine@86.56.20.177) |
| 18:53.59 | *** join/#debian lvh (~lvh@83.101.62.190) |
| 18:54.03 | *** join/#debian tue_ (~quassel@188.179.253.54) |
| 18:55.14 | *** join/#debian fjl (~user@91-65-139-64-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 18:55.23 | *** join/#debian brodul_ (~brodul@BSN-143-118-251.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) |
| 18:55.53 | *** part/#debian raegis (~rsmith@user-3c2h199.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 18:56.19 | tue_ | Hey! i am using lenny as a server for a django application. Currently lenny ship with python 2.5, but 2.5 contain a nasty bug (unicode vs. bytes, yeeew) that is fixed in 2.6. I just wanted to know if anyone here knows when/if python 2.6 is avaliable in lenny or in lenny-backports |
| 18:56.51 | *** join/#debian joneal (~we6jbo@cpe-66-75-229-230.san.res.rr.com) |
| 18:57.03 | jhutchins_lt | A partition that's "f W95 Ext'd (LBA)" is just the "container" for the extended partitions, right? |
| 18:57.08 | *** join/#debian zleap (~zleap3@dsl-217-155-46-222.zen.co.uk) |
| 18:57.54 | OpenTokix | tue_: you can use apt-pinning |
| 18:57.55 | OpenTokix | tue_: http://serverfault.com/questions/111337/how-do-i-install-python-2-6-on-debian-5-0-lenny-using-apt-get |
| 18:58.27 | chops1 | tue_: It won't be available in lenny; updates like that don't happen within stable releases |
| 18:58.35 | OpenTokix | tue_: Thats apt-pinning-version |
| 18:59.13 | xyan | jhutchins_lt: my extented partitions have type 05 "Extended" and 0F is "W95 Ext'd (LBA)" not sure what the difference is here |
| 18:59.22 | chops1 | tue_: lenny-backports maybe... also, I wouldn't recommend going with that serverfault answer; that's a good way to botch up your system (mixing unstable with lenny) |
| 18:59.49 | *** join/#debian fjl (~user@91-65-139-64-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 18:59.59 | *** part/#debian fjl (~user@91-65-139-64-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 19:00.01 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 19:00.01 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 19:00.02 | abrotman | OpenTokix: that's a horrible idea |
| 19:00.23 | *** join/#debian woshty (~seb@f051186086.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 19:00.24 | xyan | jhutchins_lt: http://www.win.tue.nl/~aeb/partitions/partition_types-1.html |
| 19:01.00 | chops1 | tue_: You could try a simple sid backport, but that'll bring its own difficulties I'm sure (or else a backport would already be up on backports) |
| 19:01.18 | chops1 | tue_: Also, you'll have to manually keep up with security vulnerabilities. If it were me I would do the backport myself, though |
| 19:01.20 | themill | chops1, tue_: backporting python2.6 to lenny isn't going to work either |
| 19:01.28 | chops1 | themill: Why not, what's missing? |
| 19:01.41 | tue_ | OpenTokix & chops1: Thanks for that info! hmm. This sound like work no matter what :-). |
| 19:01.51 | abrotman | tue_: why do you need 2.6 ? |
| 19:01.54 | chops1 | tue_: What do you mean "this"? |
| 19:02.04 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 19:02.26 | tue_ | chops1: this, the situation!. |
| 19:02.33 | themill | chops1: python2.6 changes the module layout. It's taken months of work to get python2.6 into sid because of this. Putting it into lenny pretty much guarantees brokenness |
| 19:03.12 | tue_ | abrotman: Its a bit hard to explain, but i am fairly sure there is a bug in subprocess.Popen.communicate so that it is unable to handle unicode data properly. |
| 19:03.25 | chops1 | tue_: "fairly sure"? :-) |
| 19:03.29 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@85-127-149-62.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 19:03.30 | tue_ | abrotman: it is fixed in python 3.x and i presume in 2.6 since it work on my development machine. |
| 19:03.43 | abrotman | tue_: wouldn't it make far more sense to verify that it's fixed in #python before you munge your box |
| 19:03.56 | *** part/#debian dhaivat1 (~Dhaivat_P@c-174-58-37-131.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 19:04.11 | chops1 | tue_: You said "this" sounds like it works no matter what... if by "this" you mean that answer OpenTokix gave, then no. You should not use his approach; your system will be broken. |
| 19:04.39 | *** join/#debian Just_a_girl (~Just_a_gi@net103-129-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs) |
| 19:04.39 | *** join/#debian sh4g0 (~sh4g0@187.153.162.14) |
| 19:04.47 | *** part/#debian sh4g0 (~sh4g0@187.153.162.14) |
| 19:05.03 | chops1 | themill: Makes sense. Okay, tue_, how do you feel about running a production server on testing? :-) How busy and how essential is the server? |
| 19:05.13 | OpenTokix | chops1, tue_: I revised my suggestion and goes with the same as chops1 and themill said |
| 19:05.21 | tue_ | abrotman: well, if i run the same piece of code on two machines (one 2.5 other 2.6) it works differently... |
| 19:05.28 | *** part/#debian Just_a_girl (~Just_a_gi@net103-129-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs) |
| 19:05.35 | abrotman | tue_: but there could be tons of reasons for thta |
| 19:05.51 | chops1 | tue_: Also, as abrotman said, you should make pretty sure that 2.6 fixes your problem before starting down the long path of trying to get 2.6 on your server. |
| 19:06.25 | abrotman | which will break anyway |
| 19:06.28 | Elite | installing on a dell 4400 poweredge it fails to install the base system, any idea why? |
| 19:06.35 | abrotman | Elite: errors? |
| 19:06.44 | tue_ | chops1: its not very busy, its not the end of the world if i run into problems |
| 19:07.02 | abrotman | tue_: and if it fails to boot again ? |
| 19:07.24 | Elite | abrotman: says its has no swap partition |
| 19:07.36 | abrotman | the installer or the system ? |
| 19:07.56 | tue_ | chops1: good advice, and i was going to do that in any case - i was just trying to get an idea about how difficult it was to get python2.6 to work. |
| 19:08.03 | chops1 | tue_: In that case, I'd recommend making very sure that you really do need 2.6, and if you do you can try running squeeze and being very careful to keep up with security updates, keep good backups, and generally tread lightly until the next stable release |
| 19:08.12 | Elite | is there a way to use a recommended partition scheme? |
| 19:08.24 | Elite | the installer |
| 19:08.29 | chops1 | tue_: themill says it's difficult, and I see no reason to doubt him :-) |
| 19:08.59 | *** join/#debian SRabbelier (~SRabbelie@ip138-114-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) |
| 19:09.10 | *** join/#debian heniu (~Miranda@50-goc-24.acn.waw.pl) |
| 19:09.13 | *** join/#debian Jemt (~Jemt@0x5550950d.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 19:10.13 | *** join/#debian smeea (~smeea@89.163.26.137) |
| 19:10.22 | *** join/#debian battro (battro@ip98-182-59-245.ri.ri.cox.net) |
| 19:10.41 | Elite | If I use the graphical install method, will it install x as well? |
| 19:10.53 | xyan | Elite: the installer has the guided partitioning option, the actual partion layout really depends upon the system usage. you need a swap and / at least |
| 19:10.54 | tue_ | abrotman: i would just need to reboot it, its very low traffic, only 50 users ATM and nobody is paying (its students at a university). Its kind of an extended test. |
| 19:11.08 | abrotman | tue_: i meant that it doesn't reboot successfully |
| 19:11.23 | xyan | Elite: no you can select what packages to install, if you dont use "desktop environment" then there will be no X |
| 19:11.51 | Elite | how big must the swap be? |
| 19:12.06 | *** join/#debian tomcheng76 (~tomcheng7@221.127.15.210) |
| 19:12.09 | xyan | rule of thumb 2 times the size of ram |
| 19:12.18 | p3rror | Elite, that depends |
| 19:12.31 | p3rror | some users prefers to reserve 2 * RAM |
| 19:12.37 | *** part/#debian nervousTwitch (~user@173-16-149-43.client.mchsi.com) |
| 19:12.38 | tue_ | abrotman: well, i would just have to reinstall it :-). Its a testimony to debians stability that i never had a service outage despite my general cluenessness, lazyness and incompetence with everything debian-related :-) |
| 19:12.41 | dondelelcaro | Elite: the answer is that it should be big enough so that you always has some free, but often times you don't need any |
| 19:12.51 | p3rror | but not on big system with 16G, 64G, .. of Memory |
| 19:13.01 | Elite | ok, its gonna be a web server |
| 19:13.27 | p3rror | web server dosn't need much ram |
| 19:13.36 | dondelelcaro | Elite: I've personally got some web servers where I'm running without swap, but it depends on what you're doing |
| 19:13.49 | Elite | I know its a p3, 2gb ram lol |
| 19:13.50 | dondelelcaro | (the main reason is that I want the OOM killer to kick in instead of hitting swap) |
| 19:14.07 | Elite | 00m killer? |
| 19:14.13 | abrotman | OOM, not 00M |
| 19:14.21 | Elite | OOM? |
| 19:14.41 | xyan | out of memoryĆ¢ĀĀ¦ |
| 19:14.47 | tue_ | abrotman, chops1: Thanks for the information!. I think i will work around the bug and see if 2.6 become avaliable in backports :-). |
| 19:15.16 | Elite | Ah ok, so basically he want to have to reboot rather than use swap? |
| 19:15.43 | xyan | oom kills processes based on priorietes and memory usage, no reboot at all |
| 19:15.51 | Elite | Ah ok |
| 19:16.31 | *** join/#debian yoshx1 (~yoshx@cli44-1-78-228-102-148.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:16.31 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@cli44-1-78-228-102-148.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:17.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 843] by debhelper |
| 19:17.23 | *** join/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@141-189-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 19:18.29 | *** join/#debian lenswipe (~robert@unaffiliated/lenswipe) |
| 19:18.31 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 19:18.44 | lenswipe | i just got a notification that ive had a kernel failiure |
| 19:18.55 | lenswipe | then when i plugged my USB webcam in it aint showing up |
| 19:18.58 | lenswipe | can someone advise? |
| 19:19.44 | lenswipe | i havent modified the kernel in any way |
| 19:19.51 | lenswipe | theres no reason why it should be having problems |
| 19:20.01 | jhutchins_lt | lenswipe: Well, the system's obviously still running, so the kernel itself didn't really fail. I think if you look more closely you'll see that the kernel actually failed to recognize the device you plugged in. |
| 19:20.07 | jhutchins_lt | Have you had the webcak working before. |
| 19:20.18 | jhutchins_lt | webcam. |
| 19:20.39 | lenswipe | jhutchins_lt, well i got the kernel failure message when i logged in via GDM |
| 19:20.49 | *** join/#debian zan1 (~TOSHIBA@114.121.4.212) |
| 19:20.51 | lenswipe | and yes |
| 19:21.09 | lenswipe | it worked yesterday - i got a kernel failiure message then and skype crashed |
| 19:21.19 | lenswipe | then when i booted the machine today the webcam doesnt show up |
| 19:21.40 | jhutchins_lt | I think I'd try restarting GDM, and if you get "kernel failure" messages READ THEM, and then if you tell us what they say we might be able to help. |
| 19:21.45 | *** join/#debian g0n (~ggon@171.Red-80-38-102.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:22.23 | lenswipe | well it just said that the kernel had had a failure and did i want to report the details to kernelloops.org always, yes or no |
| 19:22.25 | lenswipe | i clicked always |
| 19:22.28 | lenswipe | and that was it |
| 19:22.33 | lenswipe | how do i restart GDM? |
| 19:22.49 | xyan | lenswipe: /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 19:22.53 | lenswipe | kk |
| 19:22.59 | xyan | lenswipe: see /var/log/syslog |
| 19:23.02 | lenswipe | ok |
| 19:23.04 | lenswipe | brb |
| 19:23.05 | *** part/#debian zan1 (~TOSHIBA@114.121.4.212) |
| 19:24.04 | *** join/#debian gigo (~gigo@unaffiliated/gigo) |
| 19:24.12 | *** join/#debian earthian (~ea@94-193-109-215.zone7.bethere.co.uk) |
| 19:24.47 | earthian | Hi, how do I make a user account on a computer use nfts3g with RW permissions on any NTFS filesystem in gnome? |
| 19:25.04 | Elite | is ssh installed automatically? |
| 19:25.23 | earthian | now when i click a filesystem in the nautilus, i get it automatically mounted as ntfs and i get no write permissions :/ |
| 19:26.06 | earthian | i removed libntfs10, kept libntfs-3g54 but it does not mount it automatically to ntfs-3g anyway. i suspect i should write something in the fstab? |
| 19:26.29 | *** join/#debian lenswipe (~robert@unaffiliated/lenswipe) |
| 19:26.41 | lenswipe | its still not recognised |
| 19:26.42 | lenswipe | :/ |
| 19:26.47 | jhutchins_lt | !tell earthian about user accessible ntfs |
| 19:27.02 | earthian | thanks |
| 19:27.33 | lenswipe | any ideas? |
| 19:27.46 | *** join/#debian SOUL_OF_R00T (~1001@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) |
| 19:28.07 | jhutchins_lt | lenswipe: Yeah, get us some info. |
| 19:28.22 | jhutchins_lt | lenswipe: We can't just guess what hardware you have or what your logfiles say, that's up to you. |
| 19:28.27 | lenswipe | what info do you need? |
| 19:28.35 | xyan | lenswipe: pastebin the kernel oops that you can find in /var/log/syslog |
| 19:28.40 | lenswipe | ok |
| 19:28.43 | jhutchins_lt | lenswipe: Knowing there's an error message gives us nothing - we need to know what the actual error was. |
| 19:29.37 | lenswipe | ok |
| 19:30.00 | *** part/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 19:30.01 | *** join/#debian a2 (~tom@cake.freenode.net) |
| 19:31.22 | *** join/#debian tomcheng76 (~tomcheng7@221.127.15.210) |
| 19:32.51 | *** join/#debian SpeedyG (~speedyg@unaffiliated/speedyg) |
| 19:33.01 | Elite | is ssh installed automatically? |
| 19:33.08 | p3rror | nop |
| 19:33.10 | *** join/#debian NoNaMeNo (~NoNaMeNo@tb213-185-227-85.cust.teknikbyran.com) |
| 19:33.32 | lenswipe | Elite, sudo apt-get install openssh-server |
| 19:33.33 | p3rror | apt-get install openssh-sever |
| 19:33.33 | *** part/#debian tomcheng76 (~tomcheng7@221.127.15.210) |
| 19:33.42 | lenswipe | p3rror, jinx |
| 19:33.49 | lenswipe | jhutchins_lt, want me to pastebin that syslog? |
| 19:33.49 | Elite | lol |
| 19:33.58 | p3rror | ;) |
| 19:34.07 | lenswipe | jhutchins_lt, http://pastebin.com/m1969dd93 |
| 19:34.59 | flower | irc://irc.goto10.org/#puredyne |
| 19:35.02 | jhutchins_lt | lenswipe: No, I want you to read it and see what it says. |
| 19:35.03 | flower | sorry |
| 19:35.34 | lenswipe | jhutchins_lt, im reading it and it makes no sense to me |
| 19:35.36 | Elite | do I need to do sudo if logged in as root |
| 19:35.42 | *** join/#debian battro (battro@ip98-182-59-245.ri.ri.cox.net) |
| 19:35.46 | lenswipe | Elite, no |
| 19:35.51 | Elite | disreguard that lol |
| 19:36.11 | jhutchins_lt | lenswipe: sudo isn't installed by default. |
| 19:36.30 | lenswipe | ??? |
| 19:36.34 | Elite | dpkg: grub |
| 19:36.35 | dpkg | [grub] GNU GRUB (GRand Unified Bootloader) 0.9x, aka GRUB Legacy. A powerful boot loader which can boot many OSes and understands many filesystems. To install: "aptitude install grub grub-doc" ("aptitude install grub-legacy grub-legacy-doc" for Squeeze). To reinstall, ask me about <fixmbr>. To migrate from LILO, ask about <lilo->grub>. See also <grub errors>, <grub2>, <supergrub>. http://wiki.debian.org/Grub |
| 19:36.49 | lenswipe | jhutchins_lt, i think you got the wrong person :p |
| 19:36.51 | lenswipe | and yes it is |
| 19:36.54 | *** join/#debian LnxSlck (1000@88.214.131.78) |
| 19:37.26 | *** join/#debian Geniack (geniack@gateway/shell/bshellz.net/x-spxllrxxmacinbwr) |
| 19:38.36 | *** join/#debian krislappy (~Kris@207-244-162-126-dhcp.mia.fl.atlanticbb.net) |
| 19:38.36 | *** join/#debian krislappy (~Kris@unaffiliated/krisfremen) |
| 19:38.45 | jhutchins_lt | lenswipe: Sorry, it's installed but not configured. |
| 19:38.51 | lenswipe | yeah |
| 19:39.28 | *** join/#debian madi (~madi@unaffiliated/madi) |
| 19:39.35 | SpeedyG | wow, irc from my first xen VM \o/ |
| 19:39.58 | *** join/#debian linuxwizard (~linuxwiza@c-98-213-218-31.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 19:39.59 | Elite | isn't xen still in devlopment? |
| 19:40.09 | lenswipe | jhutchins_lt, also i cant update my system, are they symptoms of the same problem? |
| 19:40.17 | lenswipe | when trying to update using the update manager i get "The list of changes is not available yet. |
| 19:40.17 | lenswipe | Please try again later. |
| 19:40.17 | lenswipe | " |
| 19:40.39 | *** join/#debian uva (as@114-36-232-2.dynamic.hinet.net) |
| 19:40.58 | *** join/#debian keeenx (~keeenx@p5B09A9A6.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:41.33 | SpeedyG | Elite: its available as a regular package in lenny, so it's in stable as well :) |
| 19:42.11 | Elite | Ah okay, iirc its a web based reboot/shutdown tool for vps;s right/ |
| 19:43.18 | Supertanker | Hey, Grub keeps getting my menu.lst wrong when it creates new entries after a kernel update. My / partition is /dev/hda2, but grub keeps telling the kernel that its root is /dev/hda1, which is actaully my boot. How do I tell Grub that goshdangit, I'm right and it's wrong? |
| 19:43.30 | SpeedyG | !xen |
| 19:43.31 | dpkg | methinks xen is an open source virtual machine monitor, intended to run up to 100 full featured OSs on a single computer. OSs must be explicitly modified ("ported") to run on Xen, although compatibility is maintained for user applications. Xen achieves high performance virtualization without special hardware support. For detailed help, see http://wiki.debian.org/Xen . #debian-xen on irc.oftc.net. See also <virtualization>. |
| 19:43.32 | SpeedyG | :) |
| 19:43.42 | Supertanker | (Also, I *am* right, since /dev/hda1 won't boot but /dev/hda2 will. :P) |
| 19:43.58 | *** join/#debian newsense (~devious@newsense-2-pt.tunnel.tserv9.chi1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 19:43.58 | *** join/#debian newsense (~devious@shellium/member/newsense) |
| 19:44.10 | *** join/#debian nssy_ (~nssy@196.201.218.214) |
| 19:44.18 | *** join/#debian Sitem (~yuijin@85.103.36.42) |
| 19:44.22 | Elite | would like a web based util for monitoring servers :P |
| 19:44.22 | *** join/#debian TheOnly (~theonly@cpat002.wlan.net.ed.ac.uk) |
| 19:44.26 | *** join/#debian Robbie_ (~robbie@78-22-12-102.access.telenet.be) |
| 19:44.48 | *** join/#debian rmolina (~rmolina@cable200-116-213-94.epm.net.co) |
| 19:44.56 | nooper | doesn't xen need vxt or something, ie. hardware support? |
| 19:45.37 | NiLon | Elite something like munin? |
| 19:45.44 | Elite | !munin |
| 19:45.44 | dpkg | Munin (formerly LRRD) is a network and system monitoring application, presenting graphs via <rrdtool>. Examples: http://munin.ping.uio.no/ . http://munin-monitoring.org/ #munin on irc.freenode.net. |
| 19:46.05 | SpeedyG | munin is nice :) |
| 19:47.03 | heniu | maybe alse ossim (a little different but...) |
| 19:48.10 | *** join/#debian Zyferus (~zyferus@pool-71-115-35-241.sbndin.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 19:49.24 | jhutchins_lt | lenswipe: Re: syslog - there's nothing there about the kernel oops or detecting the webcam. You should be able to understand that. You need to find the place in the log where the kernel panic happened, or where you plugged in the device. You can also look at the output of dmesg. You can pipe it through less so it's more readable. |
| 19:49.38 | *** join/#debian HazardX (~HazardX3@pool-96-237-60-245.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 19:50.02 | lenswipe | ok thx |
| 19:50.05 | heniu | how to bind apt to specific ip ? (server has 3 but only one is allowed on proxy) |
| 19:50.12 | *** join/#debian nssy__ (~nssy@196.201.218.230) |
| 19:50.14 | jhutchins_lt | lenswipe: If you can't find where the error happened, make it happen agian. |
| 19:50.17 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@85-127-149-62.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 19:50.23 | *** join/#debian lenswipe (~lenswipe@unaffiliated/lenswipe) |
| 19:50.53 | *** join/#debian funky (~repulse@unaffiliated/funky) |
| 19:50.58 | funky | 'lo |
| 19:51.07 | funky | where is it configured the xhost stuff on debian ? |
| 19:51.12 | *** part/#debian Sitem (~yuijin@85.103.36.42) |
| 19:51.23 | jhutchins_lt | lenswipe: You can also do tail -f /var/log/syslog in a window and that lets you watch the log as you do stuff. |
| 19:51.32 | lenswipe | ok |
| 19:51.36 | dondelelcaro | funky: you almost certainly do not what to muck with xhost |
| 19:51.44 | dondelelcaro | s/what/want/ |
| 19:51.54 | jhutchins_lt | heniu: Your routing table should handle that. |
| 19:52.34 | heniu | jhutchins_lt: all are on the same net but proxy server allows only one |
| 19:52.53 | funky | dondelelcaro: i need it to launch some apps from my own chroot |
| 19:53.00 | lenswipe | jhutchins_lt: im not seeing anything when i connect my webcam |
| 19:53.05 | *** join/#debian linXea (~slackbox@unaffiliated/linxea) |
| 19:53.06 | lenswipe | its just whining on about php5 |
| 19:53.11 | funky | dondelelcaro: i've got iceweasel-32bits on my 64bits system |
| 19:53.14 | jhutchins_lt | heniu: So that one needs to be the if for your default gateway. |
| 19:53.16 | funky | in a chroot |
| 19:53.28 | jhutchins_lt | lenswipe: No idea why you're running php on a desktop. |
| 19:53.34 | jhutchins_lt | lenswipe: try dmesg. |
| 19:53.34 | funky | dondelelcaro: but I'm all ears if you have a better solution |
| 19:53.35 | dondelelcaro | funky: that's fine, you just use Xauthority to do that |
| 19:53.43 | lenswipe | jhutchins_lt: im running php on a desktop for testing purposes |
| 19:54.16 | funky | dondelelcaro: I know i can override the current configuration with my own ~/.Xauthority, but my question is not that |
| 19:54.18 | dondelelcaro | funky: use xauth to update your Xauthority, bind mount the X socket, and connect as normal |
| 19:54.18 | *** join/#debian stuckey (~stuckey@port-92-193-204-170.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 19:54.19 | *** join/#debian llutz (~lutz@pdpc/supporter/active/llutz) |
| 19:54.33 | dondelelcaro | funky: or bind mount /home, bind mount the X socket, and you're done |
| 19:54.37 | stuckey | What do I need to install so that chinese letters appear in firefox? |
| 19:55.11 | frostschutz | stuckey: a chinese font |
| 19:55.13 | *** join/#debian shingouz (shingouz@80-186-215-159.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 19:55.16 | Elite | if I change the etc/atp/sources.list file do I need to reboot apt? |
| 19:55.21 | chops1 | Elite: aptitude update |
| 19:55.25 | stuckey | frostschutz: how do I know which one? |
| 19:55.41 | frostschutz | stuckey: any |
| 19:55.58 | stuckey | it doesn't matter? |
| 19:56.06 | stuckey | frostschutz: do I just do apt-cache search chinese fonts |
| 19:56.07 | *** join/#debian Dbug (~Dbug@unaffiliated/dbug) |
| 19:56.29 | heniu | jhutchins_lt: server has 3 IPs 192.168.0.22 192.168.0.33 192.168.0.44 proxy is on 192.168.0.55 and default gateway is 192.168.0.1 I need to set apt to present pro porxy (192.168.0.55) as 192.168.0.33 |
| 19:57.55 | heniu | jhutchins_lt: 192.168.0.22 and 192.168.0.44 are not allowed to contact with proxy |
| 19:58.40 | lenswipe | jhutchins_lt: ive had a look through the syslog and its making some mention of creative labs (the people who make my webcam) but it doesnt specifiy a problem |
| 19:58.41 | lenswipe | http://pastebin.com/m382bb23 |
| 19:58.46 | lenswipe | s/syslog/dmesg |
| 19:58.51 | krisfremen | hmm, is there any way to vnc to the current display on the monitor?? |
| 19:59.06 | battro | I've changed my ip address in /etc/network/interfaces, restarted the network and even down ifup/ifdown, but the ip address is still the same. how do I change the ip address so the os actually registers the change? |
| 20:00.40 | abrotman | battro: server or workstatoin ? |
| 20:01.06 | chops1 | battro: Can you pastebin /etc/network/interfaces and the output of ifconfig? |
| 20:01.19 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@85-127-149-62.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 20:02.29 | battro | abrotman: it's a laptop. chops1: it's offline atm, but I can hand type it if you give me a minute |
| 20:02.40 | *** join/#debian olkol (~olkol@p57A4423B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:02.50 | *** join/#debian Failrar (~Failrar@5ED66E6D.cable.ziggo.nl) |
| 20:03.05 | chops1 | battro: Wireless interface or wired? |
| 20:03.27 | Elite | trying to untar something getting this error http://pastebin.org/91697 |
| 20:03.39 | *** part/#debian olkol (~olkol@p57A4423B.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:03.49 | battro | chops1: eth0 is wired (and is now disconnected, since I only have one cable running in here and no switch/hub/router). wlan0 is wireless and the interface i want to get working, but i think eth0 is interfering |
| 20:04.02 | chops1 | Elite: Install bzip2 |
| 20:04.29 | Elite | apt-get install bzip2? |
| 20:04.38 | chops1 | Elite: Yes |
| 20:05.04 | *** join/#debian enyawix (~enyawix@adsl-179-2-60.bna.bellsouth.net) |
| 20:05.22 | Elite | has no media installation candidate... |
| 20:05.25 | *** join/#debian smacnay (~smacnay@dsl-v201-216-110-245-28.wightman.ca) |
| 20:05.45 | enyawix | why is the tool chain so hidden from the user? debian did not start out this way |
| 20:06.02 | dondelelcaro | enyawix: ? |
| 20:06.21 | dondelelcaro | enyawix: you can easily install any bits of the tool chain you want; it's always been the way it is |
| 20:06.23 | stuckey | frostschutz: i installed xfonts-cmex-big5p but still doesn't display |
| 20:06.34 | enyawix | getting the kernel source was easy in the 90s |
| 20:06.38 | dondelelcaro | enyawix: it's still easy |
| 20:06.42 | enyawix | how it is hard |
| 20:06.46 | enyawix | mow* |
| 20:06.52 | enyawix | now* |
| 20:07.00 | *** join/#debian Slicer-Lappy (~Slicer-La@static-96-254-151-10.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) |
| 20:07.23 | dondelelcaro | enyawix: how is apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r); hard? |
| 20:07.27 | enyawix | before you could juts dselect the source |
| 20:07.36 | smacnay | I am getting an error when trying to start X after a recent upgrade in sid: "error while loading shared libraries: libdirectfb-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" |
| 20:07.46 | dondelelcaro | enyawix: and you still can just get the source... |
| 20:07.52 | smacnay | It is there but was a recently updated package. |
| 20:08.18 | enyawix | Depends: linux-kbuild-2.6.30 but it is not installable |
| 20:08.19 | dondelelcaro | smacnay: ldd /usr/lib/libdirectfb-1.2.so.0 or similar to see what is going on |
| 20:08.34 | dondelelcaro | enyawix: that's because you're trying to install a source package which we no longer distribute. |
| 20:08.47 | dondelelcaro | enyawix: we're only distributing 2.6.32 now |
| 20:09.17 | smacnay | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 20:09.27 | Elite | chops1: say there is no installation candidate |
| 20:09.41 | enyawix | so i most abandon my kernel great |
| 20:09.51 | dondelelcaro | (well, in testing and unstable; stable has 2.6.26) |
| 20:10.04 | dondelelcaro | enyawix: or upgrade to the version that we're currently distributing, yes. |
| 20:10.27 | dondelelcaro | enyawix: what are you actually trying to do? |
| 20:10.48 | enyawix | ondelelcaro virtual box |
| 20:10.56 | enyawix | dondelelcaro virtual box |
| 20:11.16 | *** join/#debian chsigi (~chsigi@188-23-179-162.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 20:11.19 | enyawix | kernel changes break VMs |
| 20:11.21 | *** join/#debian keith4_ (~keith@unaffiliated/keith4) |
| 20:11.34 | keith4_ | can I safely remove dbus, on a headless server that doesn't have X installed? |
| 20:11.45 | dondelelcaro | enyawix: so upgrade to 2.6.32 and m-a a-i virtualbox-ose; |
| 20:11.58 | *** join/#debian Batchy (~batchy@AVelizy-155-1-21-93.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:12.06 | enyawix | fine |
| 20:12.16 | dondelelcaro | enyawix: or try to find someone who has a copy of the source package for that kernel version; if worst comes to worst, you can probably build it using the kernel team's git repository |
| 20:12.19 | *** join/#debian ReJoiN (~rejoin@77.70.15.230) |
| 20:12.32 | dondelelcaro | (assuming that you're trying to build the virtualbox-ose modules) |
| 20:13.20 | enyawix | this will also break other things like my mad wi-fi and 7-layer iptaples |
| 20:13.32 | xyan | enyawix: out of interest, which kernel changes break vms? |
| 20:13.39 | *** join/#debian derchris (~derchris@78-86-128-162.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 20:13.43 | *** join/#debian overmind (debian-tor@gateway/tor-sasl/overmind) |
| 20:13.44 | dondelelcaro | enyawix: ath5k supports most everything that madwifi did |
| 20:14.29 | *** join/#debian tf (~tf@adsl-77-224-236.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 20:14.33 | enyawix | ok brb updating kernel |
| 20:14.38 | dondelelcaro | unfortunatly, we don't currently keep a repository of packages which we no longer distribute; this is something that snapshot.debian.net used to do. We're working on bringing back up a system to do that, but its still waiting on hardware |
| 20:14.44 | *** join/#debian TiMiDo (~deb@adsl-77-224-236.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 20:14.58 | *** join/#debian chsigi (~chsigi@188-23-179-162.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 20:15.11 | *** join/#debian tf (~tf@unaffiliated/tf) |
| 20:16.13 | keith4_ | what source package does he need> |
| 20:16.15 | keith4_ | ? |
| 20:16.30 | *** join/#debian TiMiDo (~deb@unaffiliated/student) |
| 20:16.35 | dondelelcaro | keith4_: presumably he's looking for linux-headers-2.6.30-something |
| 20:17.21 | keith4_ | oh. .30? |
| 20:17.23 | keith4_ | nevermind |
| 20:17.43 | smacnay | dondelelcaro: well, it seems that gdm, xfce, and gnome are looking for a different version of libdirectfb than the new one installed and are refusing to load. |
| 20:17.49 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@78.150.54.103) |
| 20:17.50 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 20:18.20 | smacnay | dondelelcaro: my guess or hope is that those affected packages will be updated to reflect the change. |
| 20:18.33 | dondelelcaro | smacnay: use ldd to figure out what they're trying to load, and then see what package provides it |
| 20:18.45 | *** join/#debian debianite (~debianite@be2-84-91-60-48.netvisao.pt) |
| 20:18.48 | dondelelcaro | but it wouldn't be the first time that unstable had issues with transitions |
| 20:19.32 | *** join/#debian lordlamer (~fhaberman@f054007100.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 20:19.33 | *** join/#debian newsense (~devious@shellium/member/newsense) |
| 20:20.19 | *** join/#debian Sememmon (~Sememmon@unaffiliated/sememmon) |
| 20:20.54 | *** join/#debian nssy__ (~nssy@196.201.218.213) |
| 20:22.06 | enyawix | dpkg freepbx |
| 20:22.06 | dpkg | FreePBX (formerly AMP) is a web-based GUI for the management of <Asterisk>. Not in Debian, <ITP> in bugs #464926 and #464927. http://freepbx.org/ #freepbx on irc.freenode.net. |
| 20:22.22 | enyawix | :( |
| 20:23.58 | *** join/#debian Bhavic (~Bhavic@125-236-190-113.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 20:24.15 | *** join/#debian delight (~quassel@f049079105.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 20:24.15 | *** join/#debian Anubisss (Anubisss@77.111.173.152) |
| 20:24.53 | *** join/#debian Tuxist (~quassel@dyndsl-085-016-192-070.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 20:25.25 | *** join/#debian Octothorpe (~nobody@xdsl-87-78-216-119.netcologne.de) |
| 20:25.35 | smacnay | dondelelcaro: libfusion and libdirectfb are two libs not found (at version 1.2.so.0) - installed are versions 1.2.so.9 |
| 20:27.21 | enyawix | is there a server version of debian? |
| 20:27.36 | dondelelcaro | enyawix: there's only one version of Debian |
| 20:27.43 | *** join/#debian Absolute0 (~ramin@ool-182e4b01.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 20:27.55 | *** join/#debian seth- (seth@190.244.232.192) |
| 20:27.58 | dondelelcaro | enyawix: the same version works for servers, desktops, etc. There's a reason why we call it the universal OS. |
| 20:27.58 | smacnay | dondelelcaro: I will wait a bit and see if an answer turns up - I am surprised that I am the only one with this problem. |
| 20:28.18 | dondelelcaro | smacnay: and you have libdirectfb-1.2-0 installed, right? |
| 20:28.40 | dondelelcaro | smacnay: what is the output from ldd /usr/sbin/gdm; ldd /usr/lib/libdirectfb-1.2.so.0; ? |
| 20:28.52 | smacnay | dondelelcaro: no, I believe it was upgraded to 1.2.so.9 today |
| 20:28.58 | *** join/#debian KatchaFire (~KatchaFir@bas33-4-88-180-245-209.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:29.30 | *** part/#debian seth- (seth@190.244.232.192) |
| 20:29.57 | smacnay | dondelelcaro: ldd /usr/sbin/gdm | grep found shows that libfusion and libdirectfb (versions 1.2.so.0) are not found. |
| 20:29.58 | dondelelcaro | smacnay: AFAICT, Debian doesn't distribute that file |
| 20:30.07 | dondelelcaro | smacnay: I want to see the entire output |
| 20:30.12 | smacnay | dondelelcaro: ah. |
| 20:30.14 | smacnay | ok |
| 20:30.35 | *** join/#debian newsense (~devious@shellium/member/newsense) |
| 20:30.35 | dondelelcaro | smacnay: and if you don't have it there, then you probably need to reinstall libdirectfb-1.2-0 |
| 20:30.46 | smacnay | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 20:30.51 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@s83-191-241-142.cust.tele2.se) |
| 20:31.19 | smacnay | to give you full output I would need to paste to pastebin... give me a sec to figure this out in terminal... been a while |
| 20:31.40 | *** join/#debian jkdsoft (~JKD@27.85-87-85.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) |
| 20:31.43 | heniu | server has 3 IPs 192.168.0.22 192.168.0.33 192.168.0.44 proxy is on 192.168.0.55 and default gateway is 192.168.0.1 I need bind apt to IP to identify to proxy (192.168.0.55:8080) as 192.168.0.33; 192.168.0.22 and 192.168.0.44 are not allowed to contact with proxy; Can anybody help me? |
| 20:32.01 | *** join/#debian kaeos (~Miranda@84.76.55.235) |
| 20:32.10 | *** join/#debian aragorn29 (~dan@189.177.198.40) |
| 20:33.13 | dondelelcaro | heniu: uh... that's kind of insane |
| 20:33.55 | nooper | it is also insane for so many apps to assume you have only 1 IP and to not provide options to bind to one you want |
| 20:34.09 | *** join/#debian adam_polska (~chatzilla@83-238-236-174.adsl.inetia.pl) |
| 20:34.14 | dondelelcaro | anything that depends on a connection comming from a particular IP is broken |
| 20:34.41 | dondelelcaro | there's no reason to bind to a particular ip for outgoing connections unless the underlying assumptions are broken |
| 20:34.53 | smacnay | dondelelcaro: pastebin.ca/1796565 |
| 20:34.54 | dondelelcaro | but regardless, you can trivially do this using any kind of proxy |
| 20:34.54 | adam_polska | hi all |
| 20:35.32 | heniu | does apt hase something like wget --bind-address= |
| 20:35.37 | *** join/#debian tobias (~tobias@user-0ce2hp1.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 20:36.02 | dondelelcaro | heniu: no, but you can fake it using nc |
| 20:36.05 | heniu | yeah i know that binding to ip sucks but |
| 20:36.18 | *** join/#debian ZiG|ZaG (~octane@96.26.255.123.static.snap.net.nz) |
| 20:36.34 | heniu | dondelelcaro: thanks good idea... |
| 20:36.43 | *** join/#debian magnet (~magnet@silmaril.mithrandir.net) |
| 20:37.02 | *** join/#debian ephcon (~ephcon@c-24-34-195-64.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 20:37.23 | *** part/#debian CalJohn (~pg99@host86-150-223-235.range86-150.btcentralplus.com) |
| 20:37.26 | heniu | dondelelcaro: ... and in apt configuration set proxy as localhost? |
| 20:37.28 | *** part/#debian wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-98-10.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 20:37.39 | dondelelcaro | heniu: or however you're going to do it, yes. |
| 20:37.48 | dondelelcaro | heniu: but why are you setting your proxy up that way? |
| 20:38.18 | smacnay | dondelelcaro: the ldd on libdirectfb gave a "file not found error". Nothing to output. |
| 20:38.39 | dondelelcaro | smacnay: right, which means that you need to reinstall libdirectfb-1.2-0, and probably the other three that are missing |
| 20:38.46 | heniu | dondelelcaro: its not my proxy (corporate network , many admins etc) |
| 20:38.53 | smacnay | dondelelcaro: thanks for the help but I need to pick up my little one... yes - I will do that. Thanks |
| 20:39.22 | *** join/#debian CharminTheMoose (~Count_fuz@unaffiliated/charminthemoose) |
| 20:39.38 | dondelelcaro | heniu: but the proxy is running on the same server as the one running apt? |
| 20:41.28 | heniu | dondelelcaro: no, linux server (192.168.0.22, 192.168.0.33, 192.168.0.44); proxy(separate server)(192.168.0.55:8080) |
| 20:45.45 | *** join/#debian crazyhors (~gr@209.89.220.82) |
| 20:49.08 | *** join/#debian Kuzavas (~www_xn--i@78-60-205-68.static.zebra.lt) |
| 20:50.28 | *** join/#debian SpeedyG (~speedyg@ip51cc64f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) |
| 20:50.28 | *** join/#debian SpeedyG (~speedyg@unaffiliated/speedyg) |
| 20:51.46 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 20:52.36 | crazyhors | looks for information about linux on the archos 5.... |
| 20:53.08 | *** join/#debian F6F (~Tobias@p57988A01.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:53.14 | *** join/#debian m3tti (~quassel@p57B7C46A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:53.54 | *** join/#debian yoshx1 (~yoshx@cli44-1-78-228-102-148.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:54.49 | abrotman | crazyhors: isn't that an ARM device ? |
| 20:55.29 | *** join/#debian allisterb_ (~allisterb@cuscon125942.tstt.net.tt) |
| 20:55.30 | *** join/#debian Greekman (~Psakse@ppp089210226244.dsl.hol.gr) |
| 20:55.42 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@h45n5c1o269.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 20:55.45 | *** part/#debian Greekman (~Psakse@ppp089210226244.dsl.hol.gr) |
| 20:55.54 | *** join/#debian Flash_ (~flash@plague.digdilem.org) |
| 20:56.13 | *** join/#debian sepult (~user@xdsl-87-78-29-150.netcologne.de) |
| 20:56.25 | *** join/#debian jceb (~jceb@brmn-4db75952.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 20:57.10 | *** join/#debian ShKoDrAnI (~Ardit@95.107.196.68) |
| 20:58.42 | *** join/#debian streuner (foobar@p5DD3A811.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:00.05 | *** join/#debian FSB_1 (~LOLOLOL@unaffiliated/fsb1/x-429504) |
| 21:00.54 | *** join/#debian g0rAngA (~mike@entropyonwheels.com) |
| 21:00.58 | *** join/#debian perriman (~perriman@6.170.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 21:01.03 | *** join/#debian gnutonian (~gnutonian@85.13.196.225) |
| 21:01.06 | crazyhors | abrotman: yes |
| 21:01.26 | *** join/#debian nkuttler (~nkuttler@dslb-188-097-227-183.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:01.54 | *** part/#debian g0rAngA (~mike@entropyonwheels.com) |
| 21:04.46 | *** join/#debian usn (~usn@p5B093DD1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:06.01 | *** join/#debian p0g0 (~pogo@unaffiliated/p0g0) |
| 21:07.02 | abrotman | crazyhors: did you try #archos |
| 21:08.37 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@s83-191-241-142.cust.tele2.se) |
| 21:09.14 | *** join/#debian akempa (~rata@p5DE78522.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:09.20 | *** join/#debian kaziem (~devnull@28.253.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 21:09.51 | *** join/#debian Cephalon (~Cephalon@77.49.166.170.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 21:10.42 | *** join/#debian earthian (~ea@94-193-109-215.zone7.bethere.co.uk) |
| 21:10.47 | crazyhors | no but i will ... tnx |
| 21:11.53 | earthian | hi, I am trying to properly set up NFS, however I fail where the users have no RW rights. I have set anonuid and anongid to the values same as the gid and uid of the remote users.. I am not sure what else should be done. |
| 21:11.57 | earthian | help? |
| 21:12.18 | *** join/#debian jhutchins (~jonathan@64-151-37-66.dyn.everestkc.net) |
| 21:12.26 | m3tti | is there a kernel included in a bootstrap install ??? |
| 21:12.45 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 21:14.15 | *** join/#debian cantido (dgp@ukato.freeshell.org) |
| 21:15.13 | *** join/#debian Traday (~bubb@HSI-KBW-078-042-033-082.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 21:15.19 | *** join/#debian bigzed (~bigzed@91-64-2-228-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 21:15.44 | *** join/#debian msaizar (~martin@r190-135-153-77.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 21:16.09 | Traday | hey guys i got the following problem: how to get the source for this? |
| 21:16.26 | *** join/#debian LaptopBrain (~brain@cpc2-mapp3-0-0-cust318.nott.cable.ntl.com) |
| 21:16.35 | LaptopBrain | hi, how is everyone |
| 21:16.42 | Traday | root@km36605-02 /var #apt-get install htop |
| 21:16.43 | Traday | Reading package lists... Done |
| 21:16.43 | Traday | Building dependency tree... Done |
| 21:16.43 | Traday | E: Couldn't find package htop |
| 21:16.43 | razorx | good |
| 21:16.43 | *** kick/#debian [Traday!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use the paster bot or #flood) |
| 21:16.43 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@s83-191-241-142.cust.tele2.se) |
| 21:16.45 | razorx | u? |
| 21:16.48 | LaptopBrain | great thanks |
| 21:16.52 | razorx | :) |
| 21:16.54 | *** join/#debian Traday (~bubb@HSI-KBW-078-042-033-082.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 21:17.16 | LaptopBrain | that settles it i think im going to try installing debian over my gentoo install, not ubuntu. :) |
| 21:17.24 | razorx | hehe |
| 21:17.28 | *** join/#debian wols (~klingens@p549DC89F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:17.28 | Traday | which source in sources.list do i need to install htop |
| 21:17.30 | Traday | ? |
| 21:17.48 | *** part/#debian lenswipe (~lenswipe@unaffiliated/lenswipe) |
| 21:17.51 | *** join/#debian Enverex (~Enverex@wine/developer/Enverex) |
| 21:17.57 | rudi_s_ | Traday: Defaults are enough. What version do you use? |
| 21:17.57 | wols | Traday: the standard one which the installer put there |
| 21:18.10 | Traday | it doesnt work |
| 21:18.14 | *** join/#debian j4q8 (~jakub@static.171.151.40.188.clients.your-server.de) |
| 21:18.25 | Traday | root@km36605-02 /var #E: Couldn't find package htop |
| 21:18.27 | rudi_s_ | !doesn't work |
| 21:18.27 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
| 21:18.30 | Enverex | I swear I'm going mad. I've spent 5 minutes trying to find a download for Sid/Unstable on the Debian site and cannot find one. The Sid page itself doesn't have one and neither do any of the "Get Debian" pages |
| 21:18.31 | wols | Traday: if it doesm't, there is an error message |
| 21:18.33 | rudi_s_ | Ah, sorry. |
| 21:18.36 | razorx | apt-get install htop? |
| 21:18.37 | jhutchins_lt | !versions htop |
| 21:18.47 | rudi_s_ | Traday: What's the content of /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 21:19.02 | jhutchins_lt | Traday: Use pastebin! |
| 21:19.04 | wols | Enverex: such a download doesn't exist, never did, never will |
| 21:19.33 | Enverex | wols, Really? I wonder what I did in the past. I must have downloaded Testing and enabled the repos then |
| 21:20.08 | *** join/#debian pickcoder (~madmax@unaffiliated/pickcoder) |
| 21:20.49 | razorx | im stuck in my project... actualy im just not a good scripter thats why im stuck |
| 21:20.52 | *** join/#debian jhutchins (~jonathan@64-151-37-66.dyn.everestkc.net) |
| 21:21.29 | Traday | deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free |
| 21:21.29 | Traday | deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free |
| 21:21.38 | Traday | deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-security lenny/updates main contrib non-free |
| 21:21.38 | Traday | deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ lenny main |
| 21:21.39 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@99-196-216-86.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 21:21.45 | *** join/#debian zleap (~zleap3@dsl-217-155-46-222.zen.co.uk) |
| 21:21.47 | *** join/#debian allisterb (~allisterb@cuscon127557.tstt.net.tt) |
| 21:22.14 | Traday | E: Couldn't find package htop |
| 21:22.25 | rudi_s_ | Traday: aptitude update && aptitude install htop |
| 21:22.50 | *** join/#debian brodul_ (~brodul@BSN-143-118-251.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) |
| 21:24.25 | Traday | thx it works! |
| 21:24.32 | rudi_s_ | np |
| 21:24.51 | rudi_s_ | Traday: update is necessary to fetch the package list from the server. |
| 21:31.57 | *** join/#debian lkcl (~lkcl@nat67.mia.three.co.uk) |
| 21:32.03 | *** join/#debian sylar (~sylarrrr@109.65.29.244) |
| 21:32.06 | lkcl | ping anyone who knows about bugs, #569562 is a circular dependencies conflict in debian/lenny on armel, involving build-essentlal, libc6, libstdc++6-4.3-dev, libc6-dev, and probably caused by gcj-4.3-base. anyone got any clues how how/where this should properly be reported? |
| 21:32.42 | *** join/#debian zleap1 (~zleap3@dsl-217-155-46-222.zen.co.uk) |
| 21:33.45 | lkcl | whose attention should be grabbed by the balls? |
| 21:33.53 | abrotman | lkcl: could you put the whole error in a pastebin ? |
| 21:33.54 | *** join/#debian joogi (~joogi__@dslb-084-056-071-102.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:34.17 | lkcl | abrotman: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=569562 |
| 21:34.31 | abrotman | lkcl: try with aptitude |
| 21:34.33 | lkcl | abrotman: thanks for picking up on this |
| 21:34.44 | abrotman | lkcl: and also put your sources.list in a pastebin |
| 21:34.55 | lkcl | abrotman: yes, i did: that's what "resolved" the problem, by _downgrading_ libc6. |
| 21:34.56 | *** join/#debian Tramp (~mt@adsl-188-155-246-125.adslplus.ch) |
| 21:35.10 | *** join/#debian WaterRatj[A] (waterratj@unaffiliated/waterratj) |
| 21:35.10 | abrotman | lkcl: from what to what ? |
| 21:35.48 | lkcl | abrotman: libc6 lenny2 to libc6 lenny1 |
| 21:35.48 | abrotman | sees it seems to be resolved |
| 21:36.08 | *** join/#debian Theoden (~quassel@c-98-234-161-226.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 21:36.09 | abrotman | lkcl: so what are you trying to install? gcj-4.3 ? |
| 21:36.12 | lkcl | abrotman: the sources.list is included in the typescript in the bugreport |
| 21:36.18 | abrotman | i see it now |
| 21:36.27 | lkcl | abrotman: tasksel install xfce-desktop was what i originally installed |
| 21:36.44 | lkcl | then i needed to build a package, so i did "apt-get install build-essential" |
| 21:36.55 | lkcl | and that's where i hit the problem. |
| 21:37.28 | abrotman | lkcl: so if you 'apttitude install build-essential' now .. what happens ? |
| 21:37.33 | lkcl | the thing is, this is debian _stable_. what the heck's going on, that xfce-desktop's tasks and build-essential can't play nice together? |
| 21:37.40 | *** join/#debian BLarg (ic382@99.139.147.21) |
| 21:37.59 | lkcl | abrotman: "aptitude install build-essential" was what triggered the "downgrade" of libc6 lenny2 to libc6 lenny1 |
| 21:38.33 | abrotman | lkcl: aptitude full-upgrade ? |
| 21:38.59 | *** join/#debian Digdilem (~flash@plague.digdilem.org) |
| 21:39.11 | lkcl | i haven't tried it, but i'm guessing that if i do "aptitude install `tasksel --list-packages xfce-desktop` build-essential" i will get a "conflict impossible situation this should never happen" error |
| 21:40.03 | abrotman | so uh .. try it? |
| 21:40.05 | lkcl | maybe not, by now... dunno. |
| 21:40.14 | lkcl | leemme boot up the qemu session, give it a shot... |
| 21:40.28 | lkcl | trouble is xfce4 etc. and build-essential are now already installed... |
| 21:40.43 | *** join/#debian Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-427671.home.otenet.gr) |
| 21:41.02 | lkcl | abrotman: :) ok ok :) |
| 21:41.28 | lkcl | qemu armel heeeeave heaaave |
| 21:43.05 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@cli44-1-78-228-102-148.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:43.11 | k\t | hmm, this directions are a little sketchy... so tftp-hpa is actually using /srv/tftp now instead of /var/lib/tftpdboot |
| 21:43.17 | k\t | these(* |
| 21:43.25 | joogi | hey i got problems with my new laptop (Acer Aspire 7738G) an debian lenny (2.6.26): I installed lenny and all works fine expect the sound. I using alsa and the soundcard works but much too low. I tried to add the model name to modprobe but that doesn't work. Any Ideas ? |
| 21:43.26 | *** join/#debian mac231 (~mwc@5e034F8d.bb.sky.com) |
| 21:44.16 | lkcl | abrotman: nothing happens, because all dependencies are installed and resolved etc. etc. |
| 21:44.17 | lkcl | bugger |
| 21:44.24 | lkcl | hmmm... what can i remove... |
| 21:44.36 | joogi | ahh sry soundcard is a (ALC888) and the alsa module is snd_hda_intel |
| 21:44.38 | lkcl | bye bye xfce... |
| 21:44.42 | *** part/#debian mac231 (~mwc@5e034F8d.bb.sky.com) |
| 21:44.46 | abrotman | lkcl: apt-cache policy libc6 libc6-dev |
| 21:45.11 | *** join/#debian dmi3on (~dmi3on@cpe-66-65-20-92.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 21:46.08 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@cli44-1-78-228-102-148.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:46.14 | abrotman | there's also a #debian-arm on OFTC |
| 21:46.37 | lkcl | whoops.... for some reason tasksel --task-packages xfce-desktop gave nothing. whoops |
| 21:49.19 | *** join/#debian matzer (~matze@2002:5795:7179:b:21d:72ff:fec9:7449) |
| 21:50.44 | lkcl | abrotman: it's a little difficult to get info off of the qemu session, but apt-cache policy is showing installed 2.7-18lenny1 for both; taken off the debian xfce+lxde officiial armel binary cdrom 500 pin priority 500 http://ftp.uk.debian.org leny/main ackages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 21:51.13 | abrotman | so lenny2 doesn't exist anymore ? |
| 21:52.31 | lkcl | no, because that was "fixed" by the earlier downgrade. libgcj-common and gck-4.3-base have _also_ been removed (by the "aptitude install build-essential") |
| 21:52.39 | lkcl | sorry gcj-4.3-base |
| 21:53.22 | lkcl | both of which were required / installed by the earlier "tasksel install xfce-desktop" command. |
| 21:53.38 | *** join/#debian tremo (~tremo@wurzeldiener.jfreitag.de) |
| 21:53.49 | *** join/#debian obcecado (~ob@cr-217-129-224-69.netvisao.pt) |
| 21:53.50 | lkcl | to repro this, i'll probably need to do a total reinstall, in the exact same order as before. |
| 21:54.06 | lkcl | which took 2 days (thanks to qemu) |
| 21:54.47 | abrotman | or ask #debian-arm if it's really an issue |
| 21:55.06 | *** join/#debian pitoow (~pitoow@201-2-211-35.fnsce702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 21:55.33 | lkcl | abrotman: well, it's not an issue _now_, because i have a "working" system. but, the fact that a downgrade was required in order to get that "working" system is what had me concerned. |
| 21:55.46 | lkcl | if this was debian/testing i wouldn't be in the slightest bit bothered. |
| 21:56.03 | abrotman | that upgraded package should still be out there .. |
| 21:56.09 | lkcl | but this is debian/stable this happened on. |
| 21:57.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 837] by debhelper |
| 21:57.10 | abrotman | you're not answering the question |
| 21:57.25 | lkcl | abrotman: sorry, which question? |
| 21:57.36 | abrotman | lkcl: that lenny2 package should still be available to you |
| 21:57.42 | *** join/#debian Rusty1_LT (~Rusty1_LT@cpe-72-226-104-57.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 21:57.54 | lkcl | abrotman: yes, i was just searching for it. and... um... it doesn't appear to be available. |
| 21:58.09 | lkcl | apt-cache show libc6 only shows lenny1. beh?? |
| 21:59.10 | lkcl | checking http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/glibc6/ .... |
| 21:59.19 | *** join/#debian balans (~BRPOLDB@83.128.97.80) |
| 22:01.45 | *** join/#debian Chascon (~chatzilla@pc-72-103-160-190.cm.vtr.net) |
| 22:01.47 | lkcl | abrotman: that's really weird. libc6-2.7.18-lenny2 has... gone. |
| 22:01.54 | abrotman | judd: versions libc6 |
| 22:01.55 | judd | libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch9+b1; etch-security: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch10+b1; lenny: 2.7-18lenny1; lenny-security: 2.7-18lenny2; squeeze: 2.10.2-2; sid: 2.10.2-5; experimental: 2.11-0exp4 |
| 22:02.07 | abrotman | lkcl: so you have the security sources or not ? |
| 22:02.24 | lkcl | judd: thanks. |
| 22:02.28 | lkcl | abrotman: yes. |
| 22:02.33 | simonrvn | judd's a bot |
| 22:02.35 | lkcl | you can see the /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:02.43 | lkcl | simonrvn: thank you :) |
| 22:02.46 | lkcl | ha ha |
| 22:02.52 | simonrvn | pats judd on the tin can |
| 22:02.59 | LaptopBrain | hmm, debian doesnt like installing to unclean sources much, does it |
| 22:03.14 | LaptopBrain | i had to wipe everything but /home to make progress in installing debian on my disk without reformatting it :p |
| 22:03.22 | abrotman | lkcl: then you sohuld have the libc6 lenny2 |
| 22:03.26 | lkcl | apt-get update - says _forbidden_ to access security.debian.org??? |
| 22:03.29 | LaptopBrain | otherwise the first tar it gets to bitches that /usr/lib64 exists |
| 22:03.29 | lkcl | behh? |
| 22:03.37 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@unaffiliated/salvin) |
| 22:04.12 | lkcl | abrotman: lemme just remove the apt-cacher proxy line and try apt-get update again... |
| 22:04.25 | *** join/#debian Matic`Makovec (biggi_mat@193.2.116.180) |
| 22:04.28 | lkcl | okaaay, yes: now we have it. that was weird. |
| 22:04.28 | abrotman | lkcl: APTITUDE |
| 22:04.38 | lkcl | abrotman: sorry, fingers force-of-habit. |
| 22:05.23 | *** join/#debian Bhavic (~Bhavic@125-238-249-27.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 22:06.08 | *** join/#debian Mr-R (~rex@pD9FFA34C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:06.10 | *** join/#debian HazardX (~HazardX3@pool-96-237-170-128.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 22:06.27 | *** part/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@141-189-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 22:06.36 | lkcl | am doing a manual "aptitude install libc6 libc6-dev" |
| 22:06.57 | lkcl | so as to get 2.7-18lenny2 libc6* |
| 22:07.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 831] by debhelper |
| 22:07.11 | earthian | i have a PC with uid=1000 and NFS server with uid=1001 of that user. how do I enable read-write access to an exported path for that user? |
| 22:07.44 | lkcl | _frick_. fricking qemu bombed out again. |
| 22:07.52 | Reemo | Did someone successfully build fxusb (avm fritzcard usb isdn) with debian squeeze and latest kernel from repos? If so: What patches were applied? |
| 22:08.23 | *** join/#debian visof (~visof@41.238.232.3) |
| 22:08.51 | *** join/#debian kopimi (kopimi@piratbyran.org) |
| 22:09.19 | *** join/#debian delight (~quassel@f049079105.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 22:11.52 | *** join/#debian m3tti (~quassel@p57B7C46A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:17.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 823] by debhelper |
| 22:17.15 | *** join/#debian SQlvpapir (~teis@188.177.95.62) |
| 22:17.28 | *** join/#debian beawesomeinstead (~beawesome@unaffiliated/beawesomeinstead) |
| 22:17.43 | *** join/#debian riomare1 (~matevz@93-103-94-70.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) |
| 22:19.43 | *** join/#debian yoruk (~yoruk@host49-178-dynamic.52-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 22:19.51 | *** join/#debian ineiros (~itniemin@james.ics.hut.fi) |
| 22:20.05 | lkcl | abrotman: apologies, it's 22:15pm, i have to stop. i'll do some more investigation tomorrow. i've got libc6 lenny2 installed on this, now, and xfce-desktop tasks _and_ build-essential, but the conflicts cannot be repro'd. too weird. |
| 22:20.09 | *** join/#debian Kryll (~terry@c-68-58-93-24.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 22:20.30 | abrotman | okay |
| 22:21.12 | lkcl | thanks for the investigative questioning / things-to-try. i'll do a dpkg -l comparison tomorrow (i have the "broken" list, in the bugreport so can retrieve it) |
| 22:22.03 | *** join/#debian arnee (~arnee@a89-182-27-32.net-htp.de) |
| 22:26.52 | *** join/#debian seisatsu (~seisatsu@adsl-76-254-48-130.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:27.03 | *** join/#debian forfolias (~forfolias@77.49.166.170.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 22:27.28 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~SkG@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) |
| 22:28.13 | *** join/#debian salvin_ (~salvin@ip-203-42.sn2.eutelia.it) |
| 22:28.54 | pseubodot | looks in |
| 22:29.00 | *** join/#debian iKs (~iks@128.220.159.20) |
| 22:29.00 | *** join/#debian adb (~adb@144.85.45.157) |
| 22:29.35 | *** join/#debian DDave (~DDave@unaffiliated/ddave) |
| 22:30.41 | *** join/#debian leejongwook (~leejongwo@123.109.85.6) |
| 22:33.48 | *** join/#debian salvin__ (~salvin@ip-203-42.sn2.eutelia.it) |
| 22:35.00 | *** join/#debian VladNistor (~nistor@89.137.106.107) |
| 22:35.08 | *** part/#debian VladNistor (~nistor@89.137.106.107) |
| 22:39.21 | *** join/#debian Dunge (~Dunge@modemcable097.200-203-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 22:39.32 | *** join/#debian jibel (~j-lalleme@2a01:e35:2e17:46e0:21d:e0ff:fe3a:b40d) |
| 22:40.02 | *** part/#debian jibel (~j-lalleme@2a01:e35:2e17:46e0:21d:e0ff:fe3a:b40d) |
| 22:40.17 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@unaffiliated/salvin) |
| 22:41.26 | *** join/#debian loesh (~loesh@c-089172d5.026-72-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 22:41.29 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 22:42.44 | Dunge | Hi! I got an embedded device which I finally managed to get booting from a NFS server on a debian lenny-armel rootfs. Problem is, in the init script, it comes up to the part "Configuring network interfaces", and then it say the Device is busy, failed to bring up eth0 (which of course because it was already up by the NFS boot client), and then it just loose connection to my NFS server and stop the boot right there |
| 22:43.17 | Dunge | I guess I simply have to disable something in my /etc/init.d on my nfsroot, but I don't know what |
| 22:43.55 | *** join/#debian eclugtesting (~inc@212.33.202.153) |
| 22:44.33 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 22:46.20 | *** join/#debian SpeedyG (~speedyg@ip51cc64f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) |
| 22:46.20 | *** join/#debian SpeedyG (~speedyg@unaffiliated/speedyg) |
| 22:49.43 | xyan | Dunge: how about /etc/init.d/ifupdown, otherwise you can leave the targets /etc/network/interfaces blank since i guess your bootloader takes care about ip address and other things (u-boot?) |
| 22:51.17 | *** join/#debian jazz (~rev_jazz_@vaala.mine.nu) |
| 22:51.20 | Dunge | yes I use u-boot |
| 22:51.39 | Dunge | so simply clearing /etc/network/interfaces would stop trying to up the interfaces? |
| 22:51.51 | *** join/#debian paja (~paja@ip-89-103-132-159.karneval.cz) |
| 22:52.19 | LaptopBrain | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#non-freedrivers <-- is this up to date? |
| 22:52.37 | LaptopBrain | i have added the correct sources to sources.list however i cant find nvidia-kernel-common |
| 22:52.38 | xyan | Dunge: keep the loopback device, but comment out any auto eth0 lines or similar |
| 22:53.21 | *** join/#debian SpeedyG (~speedyg@ip51cc64f6.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) |
| 22:53.21 | *** join/#debian SpeedyG (~speedyg@unaffiliated/speedyg) |
| 22:53.52 | abrotman | LaptopBrain: for which version of debian ? |
| 22:55.00 | xyan | LaptopBrain: ran apt-get update? |
| 22:55.32 | *** join/#debian xomas (~otherside@41.130.237.230) |
| 22:55.32 | *** join/#debian xomas (~otherside@unaffiliated/xomas) |
| 22:55.33 | LaptopBrain | latest stable, abrotman |
| 22:55.39 | abrotman | should work |
| 22:55.44 | LaptopBrain | xyan: good point, i havent done that yet, this is a totally fresh install |
| 22:55.45 | LaptopBrain | sec |
| 22:56.33 | *** join/#debian Judge-- (~c0dpe@189.111.72.2) |
| 22:56.37 | Dunge | xyan : thanks, it stopped the "device busy" message, but still don't work. Instead I get : Configuring network interfaces...done. nfs: server 192.168.0.86 not responding, still trying |
| 22:56.44 | Dunge | no errors, but connection is lost anyway |
| 22:56.49 | *** join/#debian ceduardo (~ceduardo@Wimax-Cali-190-70-128-136.orbitel.net.co) |
| 22:57.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 810] by debhelper |
| 22:57.07 | *** join/#debian hab-keinen-name2 (~hab-keine@86.56.20.177) |
| 22:57.15 | *** join/#debian rgr_ (foobar@85.183.18.158) |
| 22:57.30 | *** join/#debian dansushi (~dan@147.4.211.193) |
| 22:57.32 | LaptopBrain | that did it, thanks xyan |
| 22:57.59 | *** join/#debian Robbie_ (~robbie@78-22-12-102.access.telenet.be) |
| 22:58.02 | *** join/#debian Taram (~Taram@cpe-76-184-240-39.tx.res.rr.com) |
| 22:58.10 | Taram | moin moin... |
| 22:58.12 | *** join/#debian allisterb (~allisterb@cuscon149076.tstt.net.tt) |
| 22:58.13 | xyan | Dunge: well u-boot boot parameters are a bit offtopic here but are you sure you passed the right setenv bootargs? |
| 22:58.14 | babilen | moin |
| 22:58.26 | babilen | !tell LaptopBrain -about why aptitude |
| 22:59.16 | Dunge | xyan : sorry, I don't want to be off-topic I know how important it is here :). But yeah, I think my bootargs are fine since it actually boot from the correct nfs server |
| 22:59.40 | Dunge | what else would it need |
| 23:00.04 | *** join/#debian gnude (~gnude@muedsl-82-207-238-123.citykom.de) |
| 23:00.12 | Dunge | bootargs=console=ttyAM0 root=/dev/nfs nfsroot=192.168.0.86:/nfsroot ip=192.168.0.136:192.168.0.86:192.168.0.1:255.255.255.0::eth0: |
| 23:00.21 | Judge-- | Hello guys. I have a home made wireless network, I mean, I have a modem that automatically connects do the internet and connected to it a Wireless Router. I would like to create a server (we have the machine) that could do something like that we seen in the hotels: I would like to take out my WPA encryption and use a server to authenticate my users and then, after authenticating, allow the navigation.. |
| 23:00.30 | abrotman | !tell xyan about why aptitude |
| 23:00.32 | Judge-- | HOw could I do that? |
| 23:01.07 | xyan | abrotman: sorry im using aptitude, will remember to tell ppl to use aptitude |
| 23:01.15 | xyan | Dunge: looks fine |
| 23:01.48 | *** join/#debian tbbw (~tbbw@owlbox.net) |
| 23:02.12 | *** part/#debian kopimi (kopimi@piratbyran.org) |
| 23:02.26 | *** join/#debian lanceloot (~lanceloot@68-117-27-242.dhcp.fdul.wi.charter.com) |
| 23:02.33 | *** join/#debian rgr (foobar@85.183.18.158) |
| 23:02.38 | tbbw | anyone know of a bit more detaled documentation or simular of proftpd's raito support ? ( i.e SQLRatios ) |
| 23:03.24 | Dunge | xyan : here's the complete boot log : http://paste.debian.net/59869/ |
| 23:03.32 | Dunge | if it can help |
| 23:05.49 | Judge-- | Please, can anyone tell me what kind of software I need to do that? |
| 23:05.59 | Tramp | Judge--: "captive portal" |
| 23:06.00 | Tramp | iirc |
| 23:06.14 | LaptopBrain | thanks babilen |
| 23:06.17 | xyan | Dunge: so well thats the log message of /etc/init.d/networking, it just runs ifup -a and if you commented out the lines for eth0 it should be fine :/ |
| 23:06.43 | Judge-- | Tramp do you know any channel about this subject on irc? |
| 23:06.47 | babilen | LaptopBrain: no problem. Just wanted to let you know :-) |
| 23:06.48 | *** join/#debian earthian (~ea@94-193-109-215.zone7.bethere.co.uk) |
| 23:06.58 | Tramp | Judge--: maybe ##networking |
| 23:07.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 801] by debhelper |
| 23:07.16 | *** join/#debian rgr (foobar@85.183.18.158) |
| 23:07.20 | *** join/#debian ruied (~ruied@188.140.25.148) |
| 23:07.23 | Judge-- | thank you, that was very usefull. |
| 23:07.32 | Tramp | Judge--: but I'd start with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_portal#Software_captive_portals |
| 23:07.34 | Tramp | yw |
| 23:07.51 | Judge-- | great, thaks. |
| 23:07.53 | Judge-- | thanks* |
| 23:09.23 | *** part/#debian Taram (~Taram@cpe-76-184-240-39.tx.res.rr.com) |
| 23:09.27 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@s83-191-241-142.cust.tele2.se) |
| 23:10.07 | Dunge | xyan : I tested to delete /etc/init.d/networking, and it still print "Setting up networking...." anything i'm missing here? |
| 23:10.08 | *** join/#debian allisterb_ (~allisterb@cuscon128107.tstt.net.tt) |
| 23:10.48 | *** join/#debian brotakku (~brotakku@dslc-082-082-080-129.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:10.53 | *** join/#debian Traday (~bubb@HSI-KBW-078-042-033-082.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 23:10.57 | *** join/#debian psychik (~psy@2a01:e35:1384:3c90:224:8cff:fe3f:7380) |
| 23:11.18 | LaptopBrain | hmmm |
| 23:11.22 | xyan | Dunge: you deleted it at the right place? you might have to restart the nfs-server |
| 23:11.36 | LaptopBrain | http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#config-manual <-- having trouble with this, i followed it to the letter and its telling me it cant load the nvidia kernel module when i start gdm |
| 23:11.40 | LaptopBrain | did i miss something obvious? |
| 23:11.54 | LaptopBrain | i dont see nvidia in lsmod |
| 23:12.14 | Dunge | restart the nfs-server for a file change? I doubt it |
| 23:12.28 | *** join/#debian anonissimus (~anonissim@85.93.11.111) |
| 23:12.44 | *** join/#debian Shaytan (~eric@c-13bfe355.025-19-73746f29.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 23:12.44 | *** join/#debian pingouin (~pingouin@london.perfect-privacy.com) |
| 23:13.36 | xyan | Dunge: grep -ri configuring path/to/nfsroot/etc |
| 23:13.59 | *** join/#debian behanw_ (~behanw@gateway.websterwood.com) |
| 23:14.07 | *** join/#debian Dewi (~dewi@124-171-128-245.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 23:14.48 | Dunge | wow grep -ri seems very usefull :) |
| 23:14.58 | Dunge | I always used "find . | xarg grep text" |
| 23:15.08 | wols | LaptopBrain: does the nvidia.ko file exist? |
| 23:15.37 | LaptopBrain | i can check, exist where? /lib/linux-2.6....? |
| 23:15.53 | *** join/#debian pl4yer0ne (~pl4yer0ne@unaffiliated/pl4yer0ne) |
| 23:16.21 | wols | modprobe nvidia then check your kernel log |
| 23:16.21 | LaptopBrain | i did install nvidia-kernel-2.6.26-2-amd64 and nvidia-glx, so i would ass-u-me so, i dont know where it would put it though |
| 23:16.22 | *** join/#debian cornair (~chris@dslb-088-072-194-252.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:16.34 | LaptopBrain | modprobe nvidia says it cant find it, wols |
| 23:16.48 | LaptopBrain | not sure why as apt just tells me it installed it |
| 23:16.56 | Dunge | xxyan : there's some in init.d, some in rcS.d, some in rc0.d and some in rc6.d |
| 23:17.18 | *** join/#debian shawncm217 (~chatzilla@c-68-46-203-99.hsd1.ks.comcast.net) |
| 23:17.58 | wols | LaptopBrain: in the /lib/modules/ dir structure for your kernel |
| 23:18.14 | xyan | Dunge: well try to figure out which one does network related things, the rc*.d stuff should be symlinks from /etc/init.d/foo |
| 23:18.28 | *** join/#debian Kuzavas (~www_xn--i@78-60-205-68.static.zebra.lt) |
| 23:18.34 | themill | LaptopBrain: what's the output of "uname -r"? |
| 23:18.34 | shawncm217 | there seems to be an issue with ftp.us.debian.org. during install, if i choose that location, the installer stop after retrieving packages. |
| 23:18.50 | LaptopBrain | yes, wols, i see a directory in there called nvidia, and within it nvidia.ko |
| 23:18.56 | Dunge | ok |
| 23:19.00 | LaptopBrain | 2.6.26-2-amd64 |
| 23:19.15 | themill | LaptopBrain: try running "depmod -a" |
| 23:19.28 | LaptopBrain | ok, trying that |
| 23:20.01 | *** join/#debian XlX (~Ardit@95.107.196.68) |
| 23:20.03 | LaptopBrain | hmm, now it finds it. thanks, seems the tutorial was missing the obvious and i couldnt see the wood for the trees :) |
| 23:20.05 | LaptopBrain | thanks themill |
| 23:20.11 | *** join/#debian zeus (~jw@c-98-212-106-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 23:20.43 | themill | np. Ideally that shoudn't be needed, but sometimes it seems it is. *shrug* |
| 23:21.08 | *** join/#debian cornair (~chris@dslb-088-072-194-252.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:22.05 | *** join/#debian abrotman (~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman) |
| 23:22.21 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@20158182186.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 23:23.09 | Dunge | hmm they are actually all simlinks to ../init.d/networking so I wonder how it can print the log when the file is gone.. :s |
| 23:23.14 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 23:23.25 | Dunge | does a nfs server makes simlinks copy of the real file or what |
| 23:23.42 | *** join/#debian joogi_ (~joogi__@dslb-084-056-111-190.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:23.44 | LaptopBrain | are formats classified as 'restricted' in *buntu supported by default in debian? |
| 23:23.48 | LaptopBrain | such as mp3, and decss? |
| 23:24.05 | LaptopBrain | or will i have to google how to turn them on etc |
| 23:24.13 | *** join/#debian joshteam (~joshteam@pool-173-57-5-214.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) |
| 23:24.41 | *** join/#debian LnxSlck (1000@89.214.209.72) |
| 23:25.32 | abrotman | LaptopBrain: mp3 works fine .. |
| 23:25.41 | Dunge | sorry if i'm not a that well advanced unix user trying to do advanced stuff :) |
| 23:26.00 | joshteam | babilen: thanks again for all the help yesterday :) |
| 23:26.20 | *** join/#debian dschoepe_ (~dschoepe@unaffiliated/dschoepe) |
| 23:27.09 | LaptopBrain | thanks abrotman |
| 23:27.26 | *** join/#debian p0g0 (~pogo@unaffiliated/p0g0) |
| 23:27.27 | LaptopBrain | im so glad i went with debian and not ubuntu. everything just seems so much more lightweight out of the box |
| 23:27.30 | abrotman | LaptopBrain: i don't watch DVDs on my computers , so not sure about decss |
| 23:27.37 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@unaffiliated/salvin) |
| 23:27.39 | LaptopBrain | no doubt i'll have so much stuff on this within a month though, lol |
| 23:28.32 | xyan | Dunge: thats why i said maybe restart the nfs-server, but yeah if you removed the file in /etc/init.d it should not exist anymore and symliks should be ignored |
| 23:28.55 | themill | LaptopBrain: /msg dpkg dvd playback |
| 23:29.00 | *** join/#debian EagleSn (~rafael@89.141.100.164.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 23:29.03 | joshteam | anyone use debian as a vm within vmfusion ? |
| 23:29.17 | LaptopBrain | thanks themill |
| 23:29.20 | *** join/#debian shawncm217 (~chatzilla@c-68-46-203-99.hsd1.ks.comcast.net) |
| 23:31.49 | *** join/#debian Third3ye (~Third3ye@c06304BC1.dhcp.bluecom.no) |
| 23:32.38 | shawncm217 | there seems to be an issue with ftp.us.debian.org. during install, if i choose that location, the installer stop after retrieving packages. |
| 23:33.17 | babilen | joshteam: :-D |
| 23:34.04 | *** join/#debian rage (~rage@AAmiens-157-1-23-92.w86-196.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 23:34.18 | Dunge | xyan : well, this have something to do with rcS.d I removed S39ifupdown and S40networking from there and it stopped printing "setting up networking",.. but it still disconnect so it's something else |
| 23:34.23 | babilen | joshteam: Have you found a way to share your code? |
| 23:34.32 | Dunge | Activating swapfile swap...done. nfs: server 192.168.0.86 not responding, still trying |
| 23:34.33 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 23:34.39 | *** join/#debian Fersure (~Maybe@unaffiliated/fersure) |
| 23:35.12 | joshteam | babilen: I haven't explored it much more yet. |
| 23:35.18 | Dunge | so I'll just put these files back there |
| 23:35.25 | babilen | joshteam: alright - fine with me :-) |
| 23:35.40 | Dunge | where do you see the order in which files get executed from the init.d? |
| 23:35.49 | joshteam | I like the svn in both places, however that means each time I write code and want to test it.. I would have to svn ci and svn update on my dev box.. which create a lot of pointless commits to SVN. |
| 23:36.10 | xyan | Dunge: they have the numbering scheme which reflects the order in which they are called |
| 23:36.15 | joshteam | babilen: that doesn't seem like the most pragmatic approach to me, thoughts? |
| 23:36.28 | babilen | joshteam: Use a better version control system - but I see your point. |
| 23:36.46 | xyan | Dunge: i never tried embedded debian, buildroot always worked with tftp kernel and nfs root for me though |
| 23:36.53 | joshteam | babilen some things are out of the scope of my control. |
| 23:37.23 | Dunge | xyan : yeah.. after S40networking there are S45mountnfs.sh and S46mountnfs-bootclean.sh... I guess they are causing the problem |
| 23:37.27 | babilen | joshteam: git has a great svn plugin :-) |
| 23:37.29 | themill | joshteam: have you looked at svk? |
| 23:38.07 | xyan | Dunge: doh! :) |
| 23:38.07 | joshteam | themill: I have not, but the projects source control is not under my control :( |
| 23:38.22 | *** join/#debian dbbolton (~daniel@c-67-163-171-209.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 23:38.26 | babilen | joshteam: You can use git behind the scenes without problem. |
| 23:38.35 | themill | joshteam: svk is a DVCS wrapper around svn |
| 23:38.51 | dbbolton | where can i find a list of supported type II pcmcia networking cards? |
| 23:39.08 | negge | how can I configure Debian to send root's mail to a specific email account? So far I've tried adding a .forward file to roots home dir with the e-mail address inside but it doesn't seem to work. |
| 23:39.12 | joshteam | I still feel like each time I want to see the output of this new line in my code.. having to commit - then update; just doesn't seem like the path of least resistance? |
| 23:39.16 | *** join/#debian XayOn (~xayon@212.97.185.242.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 23:40.21 | streuner | dbbolton: mandrake had a list of supported devices, but i would just search on groups.google.com (usenet) |
| 23:40.32 | themill | negge: this is usually done in /etc/aliases and is normally done during installation of your mta |
| 23:41.25 | babilen | joshteam: I don't think it is the best solution to your problem - But I was really happy after i've switched to SVN and the quality of my checkins to SVN improved a lot after I took this step. Consider this not as a solution to your problem, but more as a tip for a better life :-) |
| 23:41.42 | *** join/#debian RageOfThou (~RageOfTho@users-55-195.vinet.ba) |
| 23:41.47 | joshteam | babilen: noted. :) |
| 23:41.50 | babilen | joshteam: Switched to git (and git-svn) that is |
| 23:41.54 | *** join/#debian pinkisntwell (~gst@137.195.250.2) |
| 23:41.57 | joshteam | I figured. |
| 23:42.05 | *** join/#debian Greyhound- (Greyhound@79.114.45.50) |
| 23:42.28 | joshteam | I REALLY like GIT's conflict detection.. |
| 23:43.00 | pinkisntwell | which app is blocking the soundcard, skype or flash? |
| 23:43.09 | *** join/#debian Traday (~bubb@HSI-KBW-078-042-033-082.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 23:43.11 | babilen | joshteam: I'll let you know when something pops into my mind. I'll have to review your setup. You use netbeans on Windows and need the code for an apache instance that runs on Debian in a VM. Remembered correctly? |
| 23:43.17 | negge | themill: I checked out /etc/aliases and my default user is set to be "root" in there. I now ran dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config and told it to send the email somewhere not just store it locally, but where do I specify where to send the email to? |
| 23:43.40 | streuner | pinkisntwell: blocking soundcards sounds always to me for ARTS or ESD :-) |
| 23:43.57 | joshteam | babilen: I use Mac OSx - and will use ANY idea.. I have them all, Eclipse - Netbeans - etc. But want to use a tool (IDE) within the OSx environment that accesses the files within the debian instance. |
| 23:44.01 | babilen | joshteam: I love offline commits, the possibility to merge/reorder/undo commits without anybody noticing it if I haven't pushed it somewhere |
| 23:44.03 | joshteam | s/idea/ide |
| 23:44.09 | *** join/#debian PrickelPit (~duke__@ip-88-153-237-120.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 23:44.22 | babilen | joshteam: Right - OS X it was ... |
| 23:45.01 | pinkisntwell | streuner: what do you mean? |
| 23:45.10 | babilen | joshteam: I'll think about it |
| 23:45.19 | streuner | pinkisntwell: do you use GNOME or KDE? |
| 23:45.25 | dbbolton | streuner: i found a great table on the wiki- http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#PCCard.28PCMCIA.29Devices |
| 23:45.39 | streuner | !congrat dbbolton |
| 23:45.41 | joshteam | Thanks babilen I can't tell you how grateful I am just of your attention :) |
| 23:45.45 | pinkisntwell | streuner: i have kde installed although i don't really use it |
| 23:46.01 | streuner | what do you use actually? |
| 23:46.11 | pinkisntwell | streuner: awesome window manager |
| 23:46.17 | streuner | hm |
| 23:46.25 | pinkisntwell | streuner: although i use some kde apps like kpdf and konsole |
| 23:46.39 | streuner | shouldnt be a problem at all |
| 23:47.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 794] by debhelper |
| 23:47.02 | negge | themill: care to help me out? |
| 23:47.25 | pinkisntwell | streuner: but i do have a problem when i'm talking on skype. sometimes the sound stops working for other apps and sometimes it doesn't |
| 23:47.30 | babilen | joshteam: Can you configure your IDE to execute arbitrary commands on file save? |
| 23:47.48 | babilen | joshteam: Let's take this out of the channel |
| 23:49.37 | *** join/#debian DipSwitch (~none@koppel-190.sshunet.nl) |
| 23:50.08 | streuner | !skype |
| 23:50.08 | dpkg | [skype] a proprietary cross-platform VoIP program which Debian cannot distribute due to its restrictive license. Packages are available from http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/ or use the sources.list line "deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free". Not supported in #debian, consider using <ekiga>, <linphone> or <pidgin> instead. http://wiki.debian.org/skype |
| 23:50.31 | *** join/#debian seeker (~william@ip68-102-70-8.ks.ok.cox.net) |
| 23:51.12 | pinkisntwell | streuner: i tried using ekiga and linphone however none of them work |
| 23:51.57 | pinkisntwell | streuner: i also tried gizmo and it doesn't work either |
| 23:52.12 | pinkisntwell | streuner: so i'm in a difficult position here |
| 23:52.23 | *** join/#debian LnxSlck (1000@89.214.98.246) |
| 23:52.31 | salvin | i have this problem: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=532161 |
| 23:52.37 | *** join/#debian vicmackey (~vic@81-89-108-237.blue.kundencontroller.de) |
| 23:52.46 | salvin | i must report that bug upstream? |
| 23:53.15 | *** join/#debian kyrix (~ashley@41.92.11.115) |
| 23:54.10 | Cain | How to know if a processor is 64bits ? |
| 23:55.07 | nevyn | Cain: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 23:55.14 | Dunge | wikipedia :) |
| 23:56.06 | salvin | Cain: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep alignment |
| 23:56.15 | Cain | Dunge : i don't have the model pf the processor |
| 23:56.21 | Cain | nevyn : http://paste.debian.net/59881/ can you tell ? |
| 23:56.49 | Cain | salvin : no output |
| 23:57.15 | *** join/#debian Rusty1_LT (~Rusty1_LT@cpe-72-226-104-57.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 23:58.09 | Dunge | http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=39720 |
| 23:58.14 | *** part/#debian zeus (~jw@c-98-212-106-128.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 23:58.14 | Dunge | IntelĀ® 64Yes |
| 23:58.25 | Dunge | this seems to be the only Xeon running at 3.06 |
| 23:58.37 | Dunge | unless you overcloacked |
| 23:58.49 | *** join/#debian careta (~botto@134.219.139.96) |
| 23:59.03 | wols | it's a quadcore. all quadcores do 64bit |
| 23:59.12 | Cain | Dunge : no |
| 23:59.41 | *** join/#debian Traday (~bubb@HSI-KBW-078-042-033-082.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 23:59.43 | Cain | wols : i was tell that if a processor is 64 bits we should have lm in flags... right ? |
| 23:59.44 | *** join/#debian Holborn (~holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |