| 00:01.10 | dondelelcaro | Cain: yes |
| 00:01.34 | wols | it's the "lm" flag yes |
| 00:02.07 | Cain | so according to /proc/cpuinfo i should reinstall debian lenny 32 bits instead of 64bits then ? |
| 00:02.43 | abrotman | why? |
| 00:03.05 | Cain | abrotman : why reinstalling or why 32bits ? |
| 00:03.15 | abrotman | why reinstall? |
| 00:03.29 | abrotman | Cain: what's wrong with your using 32bit Debian? |
| 00:04.20 | Cain | this install is a mess, i was testing a lot of things and i just saw that i'm in squeeze repositories |
| 00:04.32 | nevyn | Cain: uname -a ? |
| 00:04.42 | nevyn | Cain: but only works if you're running a 64bit kernel |
| 00:05.13 | nsadmin | well if it's not what you want you could reinstall |
| 00:05.15 | Cain | nevyn : yep i installed a 32bit kernel weeks ago |
| 00:05.29 | Cain | nevyn : Linux precision-master 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Sun Jun 21 04:57:38 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 00:06.25 | nsadmin | Cain when you cat /proc/cpuinfo do you get four stanzas? |
| 00:06.36 | Cain | nsadmin : yes |
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| 00:06.51 | Cain | nsadmin : there is 2 physical cpus on the machine |
| 00:06.59 | nsadmin | each dual? |
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| 00:07.11 | Cain | nsadmin : i don't know :s |
| 00:07.25 | nevyn | Cain: looks like it's 32bit to me. |
| 00:07.29 | nevyn | not lm flag |
| 00:07.43 | Cain | nsadmin : can i have information about the hardware on lenny without opening the machine ? |
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| 00:08.11 | nsadmin | if you have two cpus you probably have two duals |
| 00:08.21 | nevyn | Cain: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-do-i-find-out-if-my-server-cpu-can-run-a-64-bit-kernel-version-apps-or-not.html |
| 00:08.38 | nevyn | Cain: 2 sockets each with 2 HT threads |
| 00:09.02 | nevyn | probably not real cores given it doesn't look like it's 64 bit. |
| 00:09.24 | Backup | im trying to format a partition with UFS in gparted, but its grayed out. any one that is able to assist? |
| 00:09.53 | nsadmin | Backup why ufs? |
| 00:09.59 | nevyn | Cain: but if you really want to be sure. attempt to boot a 64bit livecd. |
| 00:10.04 | Backup | nsadmin: im setting it up for free bsd |
| 00:10.14 | Backup | or trying to anyways |
| 00:10.33 | nevyn | Backup: is mkfs.ufs installed? |
| 00:10.40 | Cain | nevyn : i'll give it a try |
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| 00:10.56 | Backup | doesnt look like it no |
| 00:11.11 | Backup | i tried searching the repository for it, but found nothing |
| 00:11.21 | Backup | guess im missing the repository that has it |
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| 00:12.02 | nevyn | ufsutils - UFS filesystems utilities |
| 00:12.14 | nevyn | proabably contrib |
| 00:12.22 | nevyn | actually should be in main |
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| 00:12.44 | Backup | i cant find it |
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| 00:13.39 | nevyn | Backup: just format the empty partition as part of the freebsd install? |
| 00:14.39 | Backup | mm, dunno how to |
| 00:15.04 | Backup | i found ufsutils http://packages.debian.org/sid/utils/ufsutils but i cant find it with apt-get |
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| 00:16.57 | Backup | i got ufsutils installed now |
| 00:17.02 | Kryll | how can I see error messages from boot time? |
| 00:19.23 | nevyn | Kryll: /var/log/dmesg |
| 00:19.39 | Kryll | nevyn: ok thanks |
| 00:19.48 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:19.54 | adb | Kryll, ^^ |
| 00:19.56 | Backup | nevyn: i got mkfs.ufs now |
| 00:20.17 | nevyn | so restart parted and it should let you format the filesystem now |
| 00:20.21 | nsadmin | so you should be able to mkfs -t ufs ... |
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| 00:20.36 | Cain | nevyn : when trying a ubuntu 7.10 64bit ==> Your cpu does not support long mode. Use a 32bit distribution |
| 00:20.38 | nevyn | or what nsadmin said |
| 00:20.46 | nevyn | Cain: right that's what I thought |
| 00:20.50 | Cain | nevyn : looks like i have this one ==> http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27278&processor=&spec-codes=SL6GH,SL6RR,SL6VP,SL6YR |
| 00:21.01 | nevyn | Cain: so like I said lack of long mode == 32bit cpu |
| 00:21.25 | nevyn | Cain: in the flags section of the cpuinfo there's no "lm" flag |
| 00:21.47 | nsadmin | yuh got uh par uh dules |
| 00:21.53 | Cain | but they said no HT ... but in the bios i had enabled HT, so i have to disable it ? |
| 00:21.56 | pinkisntwell | is there a way to find out which app is blocking the sound card? |
| 00:21.57 | Backup | nevyn: hehe yeah, i thought so aswell. but i still cant. guess i should do it from the command line |
| 00:22.39 | nevyn | Cain: 4 processors in linux == 2 cpu's with HT on |
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| 00:24.13 | Cain | nevyn : i have only 2 processors, without HT technology (according to intel's site) so i guess i have to disable HT feature on bios ? |
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| 00:30.00 | nevyn | Cain: bios doesn't care. |
| 00:30.14 | nevyn | Cain: what sort of processors are they? |
| 00:30.22 | Cain | xeon |
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| 00:30.33 | Cain | nevyn : this one ==> http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27278&processor=&spec-codes=SL6GH,SL6RR,SL6VP,SL6YR |
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| 00:31.27 | Delf | How do I install something after downloading the tar.gz file? |
| 00:32.01 | nsadmin | there is not a README inside the tarball? |
| 00:32.04 | abrotman | Delf: you read the installation instructions |
| 00:32.13 | babilen | Delf: The software should provide installation instructions (README/INSTALL/etc) |
| 00:32.13 | Delf | I see none |
| 00:32.20 | nevyn | Cain: xeon tells you less than nothing just for the record |
| 00:32.31 | Delf | Thats for the software to provide, ok got it. |
| 00:32.43 | nevyn | it could be xeon based on pIII tech through latest quadcore tech |
| 00:32.51 | babilen | Delf: Unpack the tarball and have a look inside |
| 00:33.50 | Cain | nevyn : the informations on the site matches with the bios informations (cpu speed, fsb clock) so i'm pretty sure that is the one i'm using |
| 00:33.52 | babilen | Delf: What are you trying to install? Could it be that it is available as a Debian package? |
| 00:33.58 | nevyn | Cain: well linux sees 4 cpu's |
| 00:34.30 | nevyn | Cain: which is either 2 CPU's with HT or 4 physical CPU's |
| 00:35.07 | Delf | babilen: no, I'm trying to install tinc |
| 00:35.26 | Delf | I get 1.0.8 version and it tells me that it's the newest but it's not |
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| 00:36.07 | Cain | nevyn : yep because i enabled HT on the bios even if i don't have it really |
| 00:36.15 | babilen | Delf: alright - would have been easier then :) |
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| 00:36.22 | abrotman | judd: versions tinc |
| 00:36.24 | judd | tinc -- etch: 1.0.5-1; lenny: 1.0.8-2; lenny-backports: 1.0.11-1~bpo50+1; sid: 1.0.12-1; squeeze: 1.0.12-1 |
| 00:36.36 | babilen | Delf: ^^^^ |
| 00:36.42 | abrotman | Delf: it's the newest version in that version of debian |
| 00:37.17 | careta | anyone here using squeeze noticed a massive increment in cpu usage when xorg got upgraded? |
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| 00:38.28 | Delf | judd: do I write that? |
| 00:39.08 | Delf | ok, it's a bot.. |
| 00:39.31 | babilen | Delf: You could install 1.0.11 from backports |
| 00:39.43 | Delf | backports? |
| 00:39.49 | abrotman | !tell Delf about bpo |
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| 00:40.52 | Delf | too much information gives me brain bleeding |
| 00:41.52 | Delf | I'm new to Debian, I'm not even using Desktop enviorment, right now I'm on my other machine |
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| 00:45.09 | Delf | abrotman: I need 1.0.12, not 1.0.11 |
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| 00:51.40 | Delf | I see the source code, where is the installation? |
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| 00:54.06 | nevyn | Cain: enabling it in the bios won't make ht units that don't exist enumerate to linux |
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| 00:56.06 | Cain | nevyn : so you think with 2 physical processors i have HT features ? |
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| 00:56.31 | adb | Cain, try #hardware |
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| 01:00.57 | OldParr | will "apt-get -f install a.deb" resolve any dependancies? |
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| 01:02.17 | LaptopBrain | hmmm |
| 01:02.23 | LaptopBrain | latest pidgin in stable just plain doesnt work with msn |
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| 01:02.31 | LaptopBrain | 'our protocol is not supported by the server' |
| 01:02.35 | LaptopBrain | is there any known fix for this? |
| 01:02.56 | OldParr | will "aptitude -f install ./a.deb" resolve any dependancies? |
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| 01:05.17 | adb | LaptopBrain, /msg dpkg pidgin |
| 01:05.40 | LaptopBrain | dpkg knows all. |
| 01:05.40 | dpkg | Bob knows what he's talking about! Listen to Bob! |
| 01:05.40 | LaptopBrain | :) |
| 01:05.54 | abrotman | LaptopBrain: there's a backport for pidgin in backports.org also |
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| 01:14.34 | dbbolton | is there a difference between "shutdown -r now" and "init 6" |
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| 01:16.02 | ujjain | Hi, my wireless mouse/keyboard is not recgonized by Ubuntu installer, but is by RHEL installer, what could this be? |
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| 01:16.21 | bamccaig | I'm renting a linux VPS running etch from 1and1.com. |
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| 01:16.31 | bamccaig | Their images have their own repositories set up which *suck*. |
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| 01:16.51 | bamccaig | However, when I try to modify /etc/sources.list and then `apt-get update' it fails telling me to run `apt-get update' to fix it... >_> |
| 01:16.56 | bamccaig | Anybody know what might be wrong? |
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| 01:18.05 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:18.22 | commx | I guess the apt-entries are incorrect, can you paste the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list to some pastebin site? |
| 01:18.54 | bamccaig | /etc/apt/sources.list rather. >_> |
| 01:19.13 | bamccaig | Sure. |
| 01:20.06 | abrotman | ujjain: ask #ubuntu, this channel is for Debian |
| 01:20.25 | ujjain | :( oh man |
| 01:20.28 | ujjain | I don't like #ubuntu. |
| 01:21.29 | abrotman | ujjain: this channel does not support Ubuntu |
| 01:21.42 | ujjain | oh man :( |
| 01:21.51 | ujjain | but Debian is not a good solution for desktop in my case. |
| 01:22.02 | abrotman | ujjain: you are offtopic, go to #ubuntu |
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| 01:22.43 | ujjain | :( |
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| 01:24.11 | bamccaig | commx: http://pastebin.com/d17a26dcb |
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| 01:24.51 | abrotman | why are you still using etch? it no longer has security support |
| 01:25.29 | dbbolton | i think i'll join #perl and ask questions about python. when they tell me to leave i'll say that perl is a bad solution to my problem |
| 01:26.02 | abrotman | bamccaig: paste the output of your errors .. and tell 1and1.com that etch no longer has security support |
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| 01:26.26 | bamccaig | abrotman: That's *my* sources.list. Their is custom for their own repositories. They don't even reference debians official repos. |
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| 01:29.07 | commx | replace "etch" with "lenny" in your sources.list, `apt-get update` and `apt-get dist-upgrade`. That *should* work. |
| 01:29.32 | abrotman | !why aptitude |
| 01:29.32 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often be able to come up with a solution where apt-get just gives up. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). Like apt-get, it can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line or at the Y/n/q/? prompt using its interactive resolver, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
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| 01:31.32 | bamccaig | abrotman: Output: http://pastebin.com/d1b542648 |
| 01:31.55 | abrotman | bamccaig: install debian-archive-keyring, then aptitude update && apt-get update |
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| 01:33.55 | bamccaig | abrotman: That worked! :O I think. |
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| 01:36.16 | OldParr | which is the installation directory of epiphany by default? |
| 01:37.12 | simonrvn | OldParr: dpkg -L packagename |
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| 01:45.46 | p3rror | is there anyone using miredo |
| 01:46.45 | dbbolton | p3rror just ask your question |
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| 01:48.01 | p3rror | yep great |
| 01:48.23 | p3rror | dbbolton, well teredo servers assigned me an IPv6 addresses and i need to connect my LAN |
| 01:48.37 | p3rror | dbbolton, so i run miredo on my gateway |
| 01:48.46 | p3rror | dbbolton, and i got a /32 prefixe |
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| 01:49.30 | p3rror | dbbolton, my questions is what kind of addresses i have to define in each node of my network if i need it to reach IPv6 backbone |
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| 01:55.39 | Elite | How can I determine if I am runny etch or lenny? |
| 01:55.52 | simonrvn | !version |
| 01:55.52 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a, or cat /proc/version. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distributions. |
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| 01:58.55 | mooglenorph | Hi, I'm having an unfortunate problem: the name of directory seems to be unreadable characters, despite the fact that I'm using a unicode terminal |
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| 01:59.05 | mooglenorph | ls shows: ????ʿ.2009.??Ӣ??Ļ??ʥ??ʥ?Ǿ???? |
| 01:59.34 | mooglenorph | and tab-complete shows ÃéÃÃÊ¿.2009.ÃÃÓ¢ÃÃĻ¡êʥ³Ãʥ³ǾÃ
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| 02:00.09 | mooglenorph | I'd like to cd into this directory and copy the files out. or rename it, or something. but I can't type the name, and copy-pasting it to try moving it isn't working |
| 02:00.18 | mooglenorph | What should I do? |
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| 02:02.07 | Tramp | mooglenorph: mv -i *.2009.* sanename |
| 02:02.55 | mooglenorph | Tramp: oh, good call! success! thanks very much. |
| 02:03.00 | Tramp | yw |
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| 02:27.14 | sh4g0 | hay carnaval yno ire =( |
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| 02:29.38 | Nematocyst | can partitions be added to, say, /dev/sda when sda1 and sda2 are currently mounted? (/boot and / respectively) |
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| 02:31.38 | nooper | pngwn: your ISP gives ipv6 addresses? |
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| 02:33.25 | liable | thats pretty plain to see i thought.. |
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| 02:40.57 | morteng | Need boot-floppies for latest debian, please! |
| 02:41.35 | abrotman | not there for lenny |
| 02:41.57 | morteng | for potato ? |
| 02:42.17 | liable | archive.debian.org |
| 02:43.40 | nsadmin | morteng: boot-floppies project has been replaced by debian-installer |
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| 02:44.05 | nsadmin | morteng: whatcha tryin to do? |
| 02:44.30 | morteng | ok, I have an interesting machine with usb and floppy but no CDROM. |
| 02:44.58 | nsadmin | (btw... debian-installer is MUCH easier to build, maintain, set up... |
| 02:45.07 | morteng | I'm used to install from floppy or cd, |
| 02:45.18 | nsadmin | got an empty usb key? |
| 02:45.36 | Elite | I was logged into my server via ssh and all of a sudden putty quit and now I can't login, any ideas why, brand new install |
| 02:45.38 | morteng | yes, have two of them one is 128 MB will that fit ? |
| 02:45.54 | nsadmin | 128 kinda small... the other? |
| 02:46.00 | morteng | 4 GB |
| 02:46.06 | nsadmin | cool |
| 02:46.23 | morteng | can I copu the iso file ? |
| 02:46.31 | nsadmin | so nutshell, you copy some stuff to the key, the largest is the netinst iso |
| 02:46.44 | nsadmin | do stuff to the key to make it boot |
| 02:46.48 | nsadmin | try to boot it |
| 02:46.59 | nsadmin | errm, can your bios boot from usb? |
| 02:47.09 | nsadmin | forgot to ask that |
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| 02:47.31 | morteng | ok, will go for bootusb, keuboard and mouse detects usb, so far netbsd runs fine on machine. |
| 02:47.44 | nsadmin | oh, hold up a sec |
| 02:47.58 | nsadmin | so there's data on the drives in the machine you want to save? |
| 02:48.01 | morteng | I know how to select boot from usb in BIOS, have never done so but I'll try. |
| 02:48.14 | morteng | no nothing important. only netBSD. |
| 02:48.28 | nsadmin | nothing in its /home for example? |
| 02:48.48 | morteng | no, only some programs i have elswwhere. |
| 02:49.21 | nsadmin | ok... so as long as you're -sure-, you -could- wipe, repartition, format and go from there |
| 02:49.41 | morteng | reading wiki... |
| 02:49.47 | nsadmin | and the installer lets you do all that |
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| 02:50.14 | nsadmin | plus, if your /home has stuff, you can also mount that as /home on the debian |
| 02:50.22 | morteng | http://wiki.debian.org/BootUsb will do, I hope ? |
| 02:50.32 | Elite | I was logged into my server via ssh and all of a sudden putty quit and now I can't login, any ideas why, brand new install |
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| 02:51.10 | nsadmin | umm :) I dunno where the definitive docs are; as long as you're wipe/installing, should be safe to do anything |
| 02:51.24 | morteng | it did not tell me how to umount the usb drive. |
| 02:51.46 | nsadmin | where's it mounted to? |
| 02:51.53 | morteng | sdb |
| 02:52.04 | nsadmin | it's /dev/sdb? |
| 02:52.08 | Elite | I forgot my root pass, how can I recover it? |
| 02:52.11 | nsadmin | you can try umount /dev/sdb |
| 02:52.23 | nsadmin | oh wait, it's not partitioned? |
| 02:52.34 | nsadmin | it might be /dev/sdb1 |
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| 02:52.46 | gnusosa | Hi, has anybody installed libghc6-xmonad-contrib-dev in debian sid lately? |
| 02:52.47 | newsense | i'm running lenny using the nvidia-glx package, what's the recommended way to install the latest drivers so i can get vdpau support ? |
| 02:52.55 | nsadmin | mount with no params will tell you for sure |
| 02:52.57 | newsense | sorry running squeeze |
| 02:52.58 | morteng | ok, will do so. I have to format the usb drive first and i will try so, thanx and bye. |
| 02:53.56 | nsadmin | Elite: if you have physical access to the box you can rescue and reset the pw |
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| 02:54.17 | nsadmin | if you don't, you're going to have to try to remember |
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| 02:55.04 | Elite | nsadmin: yea I don't right now, but can |
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| 02:55.43 | nsadmin | so you'll have to wait till you do (or you remember) |
| 02:55.50 | Elite | nsadmin: why would it do that though, I was just logged in as root then bam can't login |
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| 02:56.17 | nsadmin | not sure. |
| 02:56.46 | nsadmin | when you say you lost your pw, did you forget it? or do you think it got changed under you? |
| 02:57.29 | Elite | not sure, I was in ssh, then putty crashed, then I tried logging back in and it keeps tellin me its not right. |
| 02:57.55 | nsadmin | any buddies also have the root pw? |
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| 02:59.04 | Elite | Just the guy that setup the server, but I had to help him install it cause he never used linux |
| 02:59.51 | newsense | are there any debian packages for the latest nvidia drivers or do i have to use their installer ? |
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| 03:00.02 | nsadmin | maybe you or he did something accidentally... I think your next step is to talk to him (no hostility, we don't know if he intended to lock you out or whatever) |
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| 03:01.45 | Elite | He has never used linux before ever though, no idea how to passwd and change it |
| 03:02.54 | kingsley | newsense: You may already know this, but if you've already installed debian, you can search for packages whose text descriptions match a key word by doing |
| 03:03.03 | kingsley | $ apt-cache search nvidia |
| 03:03.24 | nsadmin | ok, so that's even much more reason to -avoid- hostility when you talk to him |
| 03:03.50 | newsense | kingsley: yeah i know but the drivers included in debians packages do not seem to support vdpau |
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| 03:04.08 | newsense | kingsley: i was more or less asking about a third party repo |
| 03:04.09 | nsadmin | see if he was using the machine at the time... also maybe he had a powerfail? |
| 03:04.35 | Elite | nsadmin: Yea I know, I am not going to be hostile with him, just that he is expecting me to get this up tonight and now I can't login, I don't get that |
| 03:04.56 | nsadmin | can you ping it? can you log in as any user? |
| 03:05.09 | Elite | I am logged in as another user as we speak |
| 03:05.10 | kingsley | newsense: Oh. have you tried searching Google's indices for "vdpau" and "debian"? |
| 03:05.14 | nsadmin | maybe the sshd isn't letting you log in as root |
| 03:05.25 | sauvin | sshds commonly don't. |
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| 03:05.31 | nsadmin | ok, so it's up |
| 03:05.37 | Elite | yes |
| 03:05.44 | newsense | kingsley: yeah couldn't find a package |
| 03:05.49 | nsadmin | try establishing another ssh connection |
| 03:05.56 | nsadmin | try seeing who's on |
| 03:06.11 | Elite | how can I see who is online? |
| 03:06.13 | nsadmin | and from where |
| 03:06.17 | nsadmin | who, w |
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| 03:07.27 | Elite | just me, him as me and root has no login |
| 03:07.58 | liable | root has no login? |
| 03:08.04 | liable | over ssh i take it? |
| 03:08.16 | simonrvn | thinks this is an ubuntu box |
| 03:08.50 | Elite | Yea it's not logged in |
| 03:08.58 | Elite | however I was logged in as root all day |
| 03:09.10 | kingsley | newsense: Which debian distribution are you using? Stable? Unstable? |
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| 03:09.42 | abrotman | newsense: nvidia junk is all messed up in squeeze/sid |
| 03:10.35 | simonrvn | abrotman: check out ot |
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| 03:11.24 | newsense | kingsley: testing |
| 03:11.35 | Elite | What's the reboot command? |
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| 03:11.43 | newsense | kingsley: i see drivers 1.80 and later support it |
| 03:12.04 | Elite | !shutdown |
| 03:12.04 | dpkg | it has been said that shutdown is "shutdown -h now", or ask me about <poweroff>. |
| 03:12.12 | simonrvn | Elite: you just said it |
| 03:12.24 | Elite | dpkg: poweroff |
| 03:12.24 | dpkg | If your older system doesn't power off after `shutdown -h now', append "acpi=off apm=power_off" to your kernel's command line. See http://bugs.debian.org/390547 for more information. |
| 03:12.24 | kingsley | newsense: Is 1.8 the version of nvidia's driver? |
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| 03:12.38 | Elite | simonrvn: it says command not found :S |
| 03:12.47 | simonrvn | it's in /sbin |
| 03:12.52 | newsense | kingsley: i got 1.90 apparently |
| 03:12.59 | simonrvn | sorry /usr/sbin |
| 03:13.23 | simonrvn | wonders why such a programme is in /usr ... |
| 03:13.43 | kingsley | newsense: Unfortunately, I need to go. Good luck :-) |
| 03:14.01 | newsense | kingsley: maybe my problem is not with the driver after all as far as i can tell anything over 1.73 should support it |
| 03:14.16 | newsense | kingsley: thanks, i think i am on a better path now |
| 03:14.18 | Elite | simonrvn: its not there apparentl |
| 03:14.22 | newsense | i suspect mplayer now |
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| 03:15.11 | simonrvn | ah, molly-guard did that... |
| 03:15.11 | abrotman | Elite: msg the bot |
| 03:15.12 | kingsley | newsense: For what it's worth, I have often found that upgrading does not solve a problem. |
| 03:15.19 | abrotman | Elite: what does 'uname -r' say ? |
| 03:15.37 | Elite | 2.6.26-2-686 |
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| 03:15.55 | simonrvn | well i was right the first time. sysvinit: /sbin/reboot |
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| 03:16.11 | newsense | if i select vdpau in mplayer it cant open the video out device |
| 03:16.19 | newsense | my card supports it |
| 03:16.20 | simonrvn | Elite: you have a borked system if it's not present, or it's not debian. |
| 03:16.24 | newsense | and the drivers should |
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| 03:17.03 | Elite | its in sbin/reboot |
| 03:18.31 | doc|mobile | is there any way to get postgres support (pdo_pgsql) in php other than recompiling php? |
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| 03:18.40 | simonrvn | (though i doubt any sane linux-based system would put reboot elsewhere than /sbin) |
| 03:18.44 | newsense | kingsley: heh nvidia-vdpau-driver was a seperate package |
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| 03:19.04 | newsense | would have never guessed |
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| 03:25.19 | Elite | simonrvn: http://pastebin.org/91825 |
| 03:26.45 | dongs | anyone can recommend how to upgrade 3ware array from 1tb to 2tb drives hopefully without having to copy data off and back on |
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| 03:28.45 | simonrvn | Elite: what is this supposed to be? |
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| 03:29.10 | Elite | its my who, is root allowed only one instance? |
| 03:31.27 | abrotman | simonrvn: duh ... |
| 03:31.42 | simonrvn | i didn't check the link yet. |
| 03:32.17 | simonrvn | you think i'm gonna fetch some random paste from someone i don't know? |
| 03:32.49 | Elite | its a pastebin man, its there for a reason, coulda flodded and posted here |
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| 03:33.13 | Elite | not a whole lot one can destroy with a bunch of embedded text ;) |
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| 03:34.26 | simonrvn | you'd be surprised |
| 03:34.46 | simonrvn | anyway, sidetracking. why are you showing people this? |
| 03:34.52 | Elite | I am here asking for help, not destroying computers |
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| 03:35.20 | Elite | because you asked me to do it, anyways, can root only be logged in one at a time? |
| 03:36.27 | simonrvn | of course not |
| 03:36.39 | Elite | hmm |
| 03:36.51 | simonrvn | i didn't ask for a pastebin thingy. that must've been someone else. |
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| 03:37.09 | Elite | You asked what who said an w |
| 03:39.44 | simonrvn | uh, no i didn't. that *was* someone else. anyway, sorry for being a bit hard on you, wasn't warranted. |
| 03:40.15 | simonrvn | 22:06:13 nsadmin | and from where |
| 03:40.18 | simonrvn | 22:06:17 nsadmin | who, w |
| 03:40.26 | Elite | Nah it's fine, I get into linux and feel like a total noob, my expertise is windows server lol |
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| 03:44.44 | adb | what stand for 'PRNG is not seeded' in ssh install ? |
| 03:44.52 | dkr | Elite: best thing to know coming from there: you don't have to reboot for anything other than a kernel upgrade. :D |
| 03:45.45 | dkr | adb: pseudo random number generator. wiggle your mouse a bit. :) |
| 03:45.49 | simonrvn | or kernel issue, or a driver lockup (that's not wanting to be removed/can't be). well, in normal cases, only kernel upgrades matter =). |
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| 03:47.33 | adb | dkr, tks , and 'wiggle' ? google translate don't know the french therm .. |
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| 03:49.19 | dkr | adb: move it about. hardware interrupts build entropy used to seed the prng. then again, so does typing on your kb, but wiggling is more fun |
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| 03:50.20 | adb | dkr, ah , that's fine now, thanks again |
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| 03:55.22 | simonrvn | adb: move you mouse around in short strokes |
| 03:57.51 | adb | simonrvn, yes, but how to 'do' this in a script .. |
| 03:58.10 | simonrvn | run a bogus find command? |
| 03:58.22 | simonrvn | like find / -iname foo |
| 03:59.07 | adb | like 'aptitude install ssh find / -iname foo' |
| 03:59.46 | adb | i mean like 'aptitude install ssh @@ | find / -iname foo' |
| 04:00.03 | adb | ? |
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| 04:00.46 | simonrvn | O_o |
| 04:00.54 | adb | o_) |
| 04:01.01 | simonrvn | run the find first, background it |
| 04:01.04 | simonrvn | & |
| 04:01.33 | adb | i see, thanks simonrvn |
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| 04:16.14 | iluminator101 | how do i check my hdparm level to see if its 254 or 255 or what something else all together |
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| 04:24.23 | iluminator101 | how can i check if apci and apm is on or off without turning them on or off |
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| 04:31.43 | iluminator101 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:37.03 | ledestin | iluminator101: lsmod probably will tell you about apm module or something |
| 04:37.13 | ledestin | then there's /proc/acpi |
| 04:37.16 | Elite | how can I make a user root? |
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| 04:37.51 | macquetero | hi |
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| 04:38.21 | macquetero | debian have been totally imposible 4 me |
| 04:38.24 | Delf | Why doesn't Debian download the newest versions when using apt-get install? |
| 04:38.50 | macquetero | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xNfJ95IS6c that is wat I'v done http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xNfJ95IS6c |
| 04:39.08 | dondelelcaro | macquetero: just ask your question; not worth watching a video. |
| 04:39.27 | dondelelcaro | Delf: apt-cache policy foopkg; will tell you why |
| 04:39.32 | macquetero | that's true xcum |
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| 04:40.33 | macquetero | debien doesn't work good under powerpc |
| 04:40.33 | abrotman | macquetero: those videos aren't about Debian .. Do you have a Debian question ? |
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| 04:40.56 | Delf | macquetero: it tells me unable to find package :( |
| 04:41.18 | abrotman | Delf: we already told you .. that version is hte newest one for your version of debian |
| 04:41.35 | abrotman | macquetero: Debian works fine on my powerpc |
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| 04:42.27 | macquetero | really? |
| 04:42.30 | dondelelcaro | macquetero: I'm talking to you using a powerpc; it works perfectly fine. |
| 04:42.43 | Delf | abrotman: so, in order to use the newest tinc I need to update my Debian? |
| 04:42.48 | macquetero | I have a imac g3 |
| 04:43.15 | Elite | how can I make a user root? |
| 04:43.37 | macquetero | and the install process was good but thing like Xorg are like evil |
| 04:43.43 | dondelelcaro | Elite: the only root user is root. You can become root as another user. |
| 04:43.44 | macquetero | on thi machine |
| 04:44.09 | Elite | dondelelcaro: can I setup a user to use root permissions? |
| 04:44.30 | dondelelcaro | Elite: add them to /etc/sudoers or similar. |
| 04:44.30 | Amarande | Elite: you must be used to being an administrator all the time on windows |
| 04:44.34 | Amarande | linux doesn't swing that way. |
| 04:44.38 | Amarande | for good reasons. |
| 04:44.42 | bunder | is there a hardened version of debian? |
| 04:44.57 | Elite | We fixed a root issue where my putty crashed and I couldn't login, just want to assure I don't have that issue again |
| 04:45.00 | Amarande | one of the basic points of linux is that you become root only when you absolutely need to, and run as a normal, standard, non-admin user otherwise. |
| 04:45.26 | dondelelcaro | bunder: Debian is the hardened version |
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| 04:46.13 | Elite | dondelelcaro: what would be the similar to sudoers file? |
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| 04:46.31 | Delf | dondelelcaro: It didn't tell me why. |
| 04:46.37 | bunder | dondelelcaro: okay, just checking, i'm considering switching from gentoo when i buy some new hardware |
| 04:46.48 | dondelelcaro | Delf: it'll tell you what version its going to install, and why it's going to do so |
| 04:47.09 | Delf | dondelelcaro: It told me package not found |
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| 04:47.36 | dondelelcaro | Delf: then that either isn't the right package name, or that package isn't available in the version of Debian that you're going to install |
| 04:47.59 | Delf | It says 5.0 |
| 04:48.29 | dondelelcaro | Delf: uh... it can't say package not found and 5.0 at the same time. Produce the output, and tell us what package you're trying to install, and what Debian version you're running. |
| 04:48.30 | Delf | How do I update to 5.0.4? |
| 04:48.52 | dondelelcaro | Delf: 5.0.4 is a point release of Debian. Just run aptitude update; aptitude upgrade;. that's it. |
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| 04:49.34 | Delf | dondelelcaro: It told me package not found when I wrote the line you gave me first |
| 04:49.41 | Delf | foopkg |
| 04:50.04 | dondelelcaro | Delf: replace foopkg with the package that you think should be installed at a different version, obviously. |
| 04:50.10 | dondelelcaro | !tell Delf about foo |
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| 04:51.15 | Delf | It tells me there is no such thing |
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| 04:52.09 | Delf | when I dont specify package it tells me that tinc is newest |
| 04:52.32 | Delf | the current version (1.0.8) which it isn't. 1.0.12 is newest |
| 04:53.09 | Delf | dondelelcaro: See here http://tinc-vpn.org/ |
| 04:53.30 | dondelelcaro | Delf: apt-cache policy tinc; will tell you what the newest version that is available in stable, which is what you're running |
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| 04:53.59 | dondelelcaro | Delf: 1.0.12 is only available in testing and unstable |
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| 04:54.55 | Delf | Yes, I'm well aware but I still want to install it :( |
| 04:55.02 | dondelelcaro | Delf: then wait for a backport |
| 04:55.13 | dondelelcaro | Delf: or make one yourself |
| 04:55.27 | Delf | How do I do that? |
| 04:55.35 | dondelelcaro | !tell Delf -about backports |
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| 04:59.01 | Delf | dondelelcaro: See here, there is this. http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=tinc&searchon=names§ion=all&suite=lenny-backports |
| 04:59.06 | Delf | How do I install that? |
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| 05:00.29 | adb | !tell Delf -about lenny-backports |
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| 05:02.51 | mooglenorph | what would people say is the easiest debian way (TM) to get IMAP and SMTP going on lenny? |
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| 05:03.48 | dondelelcaro | mooglenorph: install dovecot and (postfix or exim) |
| 05:04.00 | spectre- | apt-get install postfix dovecot |
| 05:04.13 | spectre- | etc |
| 05:04.22 | Delf | what the hell, doesn't tell me what to write |
| 05:04.49 | mooglenorph | dondelelcaro: thanks. I'll get on reading the docs for those |
| 05:06.10 | Delf | is reading instructions |
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| 05:07.25 | kmonk | hello everybody |
| 05:07.58 | kmonk | does anyone know how to tune the timeout for a usb mouse laser |
| 05:08.55 | kmonk | it keeps sleeping after like 2 seconds, couldnt find anything in xorg or gpm, trying to rule out the possiblity of a kernel setting |
| 05:10.05 | dondelelcaro | kmonk: that's almost always hardware specific |
| 05:10.34 | kmonk | so a power consumption thing prehaps, i dunno, but its annoying as hell beacuse for everytime i use mouse after delay, it pauses for a moment... |
| 05:11.11 | kmonk | absolutely, and it's not a great mouse, ms explorer or such, but it has to adjustable because this is a new problem since d-u |
| 05:12.19 | kmonk | debian-squeeze at that but, first problem i could consider a real "bug" in 2 years of operation, a small bug but a HUGE annoyance! |
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| 05:14.45 | Delf | FINALLY!! Installed newest tinc. Thanks to you guys |
| 05:14.49 | kmonk | if you let go of your mouse, wait 5 seconds, then tap it across the desk 10cm, curso should move! hmmm |
| 05:15.58 | kmonk | intermeddiant problem, i'll continue my search for some better control of this and remain here hiding in the corner to see if i can help at all :) |
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| 05:19.35 | yagoo | so does tux have a girlfriend yet? hahaha |
| 05:19.51 | yagoo | what's the news on the next release? |
| 05:20.26 | dark | it's not ready |
| 05:20.32 | Kamping_Kaiser | sniff sniff. smells of troll |
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| 05:21.46 | dondelelcaro | !tell yagoo -about wwsr |
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| 05:23.41 | dark | !tell dark -about wwsr |
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| 05:26.20 | yagoo | is happy his latest kernel oops is not related to a usb drive, but dam kvm* |
| 05:26.38 | yagoo | iogear kvm sucks |
| 05:26.52 | Amarande | how about "when will squeeze be feature frozen for making release ready"? |
| 05:27.58 | yagoo | Amarande, smarten up, that's not even nice to drag on a topic like that.. I reportbug many times over |
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| 05:28.41 | yagoo | apparently last time I read was a december revisit on the decision. thanks dondelelcaro on that rtfm hint ;) |
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| 05:31.03 | K0JIbKA | :) |
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| 05:33.46 | K0JIbKA | Today upon boot up my laptop keyboard refused to respond and Lenny stuck in the middle of boot process. Request for root password appeared. I just Ctrl+D that and rebooted in single user mode. Everything is running at the moment but what was that? |
| 05:34.12 | ootput | everything running *fine? |
| 05:34.25 | K0JIbKA | yes |
| 05:34.30 | ootput | there's usually error messages preceeding prompt for root password (for recovery) |
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| 05:34.46 | yagoo | K0JIbKA, i noticed that too, but it rarely happens (my sony vaio laptop is several years old) |
| 05:35.23 | K0JIbKA | what shall I do if it happens. root password should be followed by some rude actions isn't it? |
| 05:35.52 | yagoo | K0JIbKA, sometimes when i reboot into another OS and into linux (not a cold boot), my usb wouldn't work.. so I suspect it may have something to do with usb |
| 05:36.28 | yagoo | (but a warm boot guarantees the usb would work properly) |
| 05:36.46 | yagoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:36.47 | dondelelcaro | K0JIbKA: it'll tell you why it was asking for the root password; normally it needs you to run fsck or similar |
| 05:37.06 | yagoo | dam meant his usb issues dont arise with a cold boot |
| 05:38.01 | K0JIbKA | clue: I'd been performing normal upgrade process yesterday during which kernel was touched |
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| 05:39.58 | K0JIbKA | 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Feb 10 08:59:21 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 05:42.55 | K0JIbKA | dondelelcaro: what are proper actions then? |
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| 05:44.08 | dondelelcaro | K0JIbKA: depends on what it says the problem is |
| 05:46.00 | newsense | i am trying to get vdpau working in mplayer but i get unable to open selected -vo device, i know my card supports it as of driver 1.73 as far as i have read |
| 05:46.35 | newsense | i am using the debian packaged nvidia binary drivers |
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| 05:47.14 | rumpsy | newsense: i think people won't support for non-free drivers |
| 05:47.15 | K0JIbKA | dondelelcaro:Don't remember exactly but after fsck it was trying to initiate my cyrillic keyboard. something like 50 lines of initial boot process |
| 05:47.25 | Amarande | hmm, iceweasel on debian gives me a weird glitch. |
| 05:47.38 | Amarande | If you have a mouseover on a page with Flash elements (like many sites) |
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| 05:47.48 | Amarande | and the mouseover causes something to appear in a location where there's flash |
| 05:47.59 | newsense | rumpsy: i'm not really sure if it's mplayer or the driver though |
| 05:47.59 | Amarande | on windows, it always appears above the flash like it should (since this is usually like, menus and such) |
| 05:48.12 | Amarande | but on linux iceweasel it all too often ends up UNDER THE FLASH, so you can't reach parts of the menu |
| 05:48.15 | Amarande | what's wrong? |
| 05:48.35 | Amarande | check www.foodnetwork.com on lenny, for instance |
| 05:48.47 | Amarande | mouse over "Recipes on TV" and notice that half the menu disappears under the grey flash box |
| 05:48.52 | rumpsy | Amarande: iceweasel is old and its not uptodate! , so try firefox 3.5 or above |
| 05:48.54 | Amarande | (and no, activating the flash element by clickying doesn't work) |
| 05:51.31 | dondelelcaro | Amarande: its an issue with the gnash plugin; I'm not quite sure why it happens. |
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| 05:51.48 | dondelelcaro | rumpsy: uh... we're already distributing iceweasel 3.5, which shows the same problem |
| 05:52.12 | dondelelcaro | it's an issue either in firefox or gnash, probably gnash. |
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| 05:55.10 | bookmark | hello? |
| 05:55.16 | Amarande | actually, I'm using swfdec as far as I know ... which has the same issue |
| 05:55.21 | bookmark | #linux channel seems to be full |
| 05:55.36 | dondelelcaro | Amarande: probably the same codebase behind them both |
| 05:55.46 | bookmark | anyone know of a general linux discussion channel? |
| 05:55.47 | Arrowmaster | its gnash/swfdec, issue doesnt appear with adobe plugin |
| 05:55.52 | dondelelcaro | bookmark: ##linux |
| 05:56.08 | Arrowmaster | its because of the silly click to activate of swfdec i think |
| 05:56.10 | Amarande | of course, adobe plugin on linux is about as stable as a Crash Bandicoot nitro crate ... :| |
| 05:56.14 | rumpsy | dondelelcaro: i have to submit this too, i faced a problem during creating a avatar for yahoo mail and messengerm, it ends up with old or incompatible browser... |
| 05:56.22 | Arrowmaster | its stable |
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| 05:56.32 | Amarande | Arrow: did they finally make it not full of fail? |
| 05:56.46 | Amarande | last I tried adobe flash on linux, it would cause firefox/iceweasel to crash spontaneously like, *all the time* |
| 05:56.49 | Arrowmaster | its adobe and flash, it will always be full of fail |
| 05:57.02 | dondelelcaro | rumpsy: sure, that's because its doing user agent detection |
| 05:57.13 | Arrowmaster | but no it doesnt crash for me |
| 05:57.29 | Amarande | how long do you think we have until we're going to be forced to switch back to Windows for reasonable web browsing |
| 05:57.37 | Amarande | due to things like glitchy plugins and UA detection? :| |
| 05:57.54 | rumpsy | dondelelcaro: After that i created my avatar successfully by using ff3.6 |
| 05:58.22 | dondelelcaro | rumpsy: sure, but there's almost no code difference between the two. It's quite likely that it's looking at the user agent string, and doing stupid things |
| 05:59.06 | Amarande | dondelelcaro, do you think that things like having to name firefox iceweasel and the glitches that results in are basically going to mean debian's days in the future of the web are numbered? |
| 05:59.15 | rumpsy | lol |
| 05:59.24 | rumpsy | dondelelcaro: my happiest point is my bookmarks are automatically updated from iceweasel to ff3.6 |
| 05:59.43 | Amarande | and that eventually, debian will be relegated to things like server use and we'll have to use things like ubuntu or windows on the desktop? |
| 05:59.44 | dondelelcaro | rumpsy: there's no difference, so its not like they're updated |
| 05:59.50 | dondelelcaro | Amarande: nope. |
| 05:59.51 | yagoo | says googlechrome is not bad |
| 06:00.30 | yagoo | google chrome always works with 32/64 bit flash.. but ffos/iceweasal has all those nice plugins etc |
| 06:00.49 | dondelelcaro | I mean, my ~/.mozilla/iceweasel is a symlink to ~/.mozilla/firefox... as it's been for *ages* |
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| 06:01.18 | Amarande | google chrome works natively on linux? |
| 06:01.21 | Amarande | or do you need wine for it? |
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| 06:01.35 | rumpsy | Amarande: use chromium |
| 06:01.59 | yagoo | Amarande, god knows |
| 06:02.24 | Amarande | wow, I can use a game to browse the web, rumpsy? :) |
| 06:02.24 | Amarande | chromium - fast paced, arcade-style, scrolling space shooter |
| 06:02.40 | Amarande | that's what apt-cache search chromium gives me ;) |
| 06:02.49 | yagoo | Amarande, "google chrome is a browser" |
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| 06:02.54 | rumpsy | Amarande: nope its a game |
| 06:03.26 | yagoo | http://www.google.com/chrome |
| 06:03.28 | yagoo | :p |
| 06:03.28 | rumpsy | Amarande: get that package from chromium site |
| 06:03.47 | Amarande | on another point ... man, does apt-cache search xserver-xorg-video take one down memory lane :) |
| 06:04.05 | Amarande | remember when there were all those zillions of different video card types instead of just 4? :) |
| 06:04.38 | rumpsy | Amarande: And that foodnetwork website not having a proper flash menus.. its not working good in any browser, so its not a fault in iceweasel |
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| 06:05.46 | Amarande | also speaking of xserver-xorg-video |
| 06:05.59 | Amarande | if I ever create a thin client that runs off this machine, since this machine is also in use as an X based desktop |
| 06:06.22 | Amarande | does it have to have the same type of video card as the server, or is it sufficient to ensure that all relevant xserver-xorg-video-* packages are installed? |
| 06:06.28 | rumpsy | Amarande: get chromium here, http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-linux/ |
| 06:06.35 | dondelelcaro | Amarande: they're all installed by default |
| 06:06.49 | dondelelcaro | well, almost all of them are |
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| 06:15.03 | mischief | can someone tell me where the ISO images are on this mirror? http://mirror.hmc.edu/debian/ |
| 06:16.23 | jelly-home | mischief: it doesn't seem to carry them |
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| 06:16.57 | mino | hi |
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| 06:17.46 | rumpsy | mischief: why you are searching there?, try here http://www.debian.org/CD/ |
| 06:17.58 | mino | hi. does "/lib/modules/`uname -r`/source" should not be auto created if i install linux-source-2.6.26 ? |
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| 06:19.26 | mino | or is the right path just /lib/modules/`uname -r` to the module sources? |
| 06:19.45 | \amethyst | mino: you need linux-headers-`uname -r` |
| 06:20.03 | \amethyst | mino: they contain the parts of the source necessary for building modules |
| 06:20.53 | mino | \amethyst: Ah. Thanks for pointing me to the right package :) |
| 06:21.15 | \amethyst | mino: linux-source-blah just has a tar.bz2 file in /usr/src |
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| 06:21.51 | \amethyst | mino: you could extract it etc, but it still won't work for building modules, because you won't have the right .config to match the Debian kernels |
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| 06:22.31 | mino | \amethyst: confusing for me, because i thought linux-source have everything inluding the debian patches... but now i know better :) |
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| 06:23.24 | \amethyst | mino: it does have the debian patches, but it isn't configured |
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| 06:24.01 | \amethyst | mino: and you generally need to run make menuconfig etc (or copy in a .config) before you can build modules using that source |
| 06:24.37 | \amethyst | mino: the -headers packages contain the configuration for that particular kernel (there's one for each kernel flavor, not just a generic one for the whole kernel version) |
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| 06:26.14 | nsadmin | the -image has the configuration too, it gets stored in /boot |
| 06:26.19 | mino | \amethyst: thanks for the background infos! One question: The -headers package contain so only 1 file, because i think a config file and kernel sources are enough to build a whole kernel. Or is debian their different? |
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| 06:26.53 | \amethyst | mino: no, the -headers packages contain all the headers for that particular architecture and configuration |
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| 06:27.03 | \amethyst | mino: so there is duplication if you have multiples |
| 06:27.42 | \amethyst | mino: though it's not really that much of a duplication |
| 06:28.14 | newsense | i was trying to get vdpau working under squeeze with mplayer and m nvidia card but i couldn't get it to work with the nvidia-glx package and the mplayer package i had so i uninstalled nvidia-glx hoping nvidia's latest drivers would work but when i run the installer it complains about my kernel being compiled with gcc4.3 and i have 4.4 |
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| 06:28.41 | \amethyst | mino: since e.g. 2.6.30-2-486 and 2.6.30-2-686-bigmem both share a linux-headers-2.6.30-2-common package with most of the headers |
| 06:28.49 | newsense | i know nvidia's drivers are not supported but now i can't reinstall the debian packaged binary drivers |
| 06:29.00 | mino | \amethyst: okay. i will look later in the packages, to get a better understading of what is in there. |
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| 06:35.18 | mischief | rumpsy, because it's a close mirror |
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| 06:36.48 | rumpsy | mischief: I think there is possibilities to search mirror close to you in my given url |
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| 06:43.36 | jair | hello guys, I am using debian lenny 5.0.4 and installed vlc to play some of my volleyball videos .mp4 and the vlc play the audio but not video 720p, I was checking online and heard about xmms2-mp4 but that I guess is another gnu application... |
| 06:43.58 | jair | I check debian-multimedia.com but that is where I downloaded the vlc from |
| 06:45.03 | jair | I have been using vlc to play other mpeg videos and works not problem, but the .avi and mp4 I guess is not working with vlc in linux for some reason, I may need codecs or something? |
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| 06:47.14 | jair | I tried mplayer and not luck either I am sure that I need some codecs |
| 06:47.47 | jair | I check and I have the w64codecs installed I am running a 64bit debian lenny 5.0.4 |
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| 06:48.38 | metbsd | is there chinese name for debian? |
| 06:49.09 | metbsd | for now, ppl ask me what distribution i use, it's hard for me to tell them because of the name |
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| 06:51.35 | metbsd | ? |
| 06:51.50 | jair | metbsd: what do you mean? |
| 06:52.09 | jair | are you in China? |
| 06:52.16 | metbsd | yes im in china |
| 06:52.19 | metbsd | and you? |
| 06:52.25 | metbsd | are you in china too? |
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| 06:52.29 | jair | nope |
| 06:52.44 | jair | metbsd: you are looking for the name of debian in kanji? |
| 06:53.11 | metbsd | yes jair, wondering chinese name for debian |
| 06:53.16 | metbsd | jair, where are you? |
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| 06:53.58 | jair | us |
| 06:54.10 | jair | metbsd: why? |
| 06:54.29 | jair | can you see this? ããã¢ã³ |
| 06:54.38 | metbsd | no i can't. |
| 06:54.39 | jair | do you see the characters? |
| 06:54.42 | metbsd | that's japanese |
| 06:54.46 | jair | LOL |
| 06:54.47 | metbsd | not chinese |
| 06:54.53 | jair | then you see the characters |
| 06:55.09 | jair | you can google it my friende |
| 06:55.11 | jair | friend |
| 06:55.15 | jmarsden | jair: Yes, they are there. But this channel uses English. |
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| 06:55.41 | metbsd | i wonder the official chinese name for debian |
| 06:55.42 | jair | I am just helping metbsd =) but in reality he can get the name in kanji from google |
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| 06:56.06 | jair | jmarsden: do you play videos using debian vlc? |
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| 06:56.39 | jair | I am trying to play a HD video 720p and I can't when I play it with vlc I can hear the audio but not the video |
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| 06:57.35 | jmarsden | jair: No, I'm afraid not. You may have a codec issue of some sort, but I'm more of an old-fashioned command line server sysadmin guy, not one of these modern people who use computers for watching video :) :) |
| 06:58.35 | jair | jmarsden: fair enough that is why I don't know how to play it, I normally use my debian box for terminal, bash, samba, apache, rsync, etc... |
| 06:58.38 | newsense | jair: you got libx264? |
| 06:58.40 | jair | no video |
| 06:58.49 | jair | newsense: let me check that |
| 06:59.09 | newsense | i got 2 versions installed |
| 06:59.13 | elenril | x264 is an encoder |
| 06:59.15 | newsense | i play h264 |
| 06:59.17 | metbsd | ok, so there's no official chinese name for debian? |
| 06:59.31 | elenril | it _doesn't_ do any decoding |
| 06:59.33 | newsense | oh yeah it is |
| 06:59.34 | metbsd | debian in chinese sounds like 'shit' |
| 06:59.38 | jair | libx264-65 1:0.svn20090115-0.0 x264 video coding library |
| 06:59.39 | Amarande | metbsd: debian in china? |
| 06:59.45 | Amarande | nah, they don't believe in things like that there |
| 06:59.46 | jair | I have that |
| 06:59.53 | Amarande | debian is far too much like freedom for their comfort :) |
| 06:59.56 | elenril | for decoding h.264 you need libavcodec with ffh264 compiled |
| 06:59.56 | newsense | nm |
| 07:00.12 | newsense | probably from dmm |
| 07:00.20 | metbsd | but debian's pronounciation means 'shit, crap' in chinese language |
| 07:00.38 | metbsd | that's why im worried it'll mislead its users |
| 07:00.59 | jair | newsense: so you are saying that I should install libavcodec? |
| 07:01.02 | jelly-home | jair: note that www.debian.org does _not_ seem to list an official transliteration, but keeps the latin "Debian" on http://www.debian.org/index.zh-cn.html afaict |
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| 07:01.54 | newsense | jair: yeah |
| 07:01.55 | elenril | jair: you say you tried mplayer |
| 07:02.03 | elenril | can you pastebin the output? |
| 07:02.39 | newsense | jair: i play x264, got the version from testing/dmm personally |
| 07:02.44 | FlyingFoX | what is a good way to merge text files? |
| 07:02.51 | newsense | i'm sure stables version will play it too |
| 07:03.02 | newsense | *h264 |
| 07:03.07 | jelly-home | FlyingFoX: better than cat? |
| 07:03.18 | FlyingFoX | jelly-home: yes |
| 07:03.26 | jelly-home | FlyingFoX: what's wrong with it? |
| 07:03.29 | jair | newsense: this is what I have => http://paste.debian.net/59890/ |
| 07:03.57 | newsense | libavcodec51 |
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| 07:04.07 | FlyingFoX | as in i have 2 configuration files, one old and one new version and i want my modifications to the old one and the additions to the new one |
| 07:04.15 | jair | newsense: ok |
| 07:04.24 | elenril | FlyingFoX: something like vimdiff? |
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| 07:04.42 | FlyingFoX | elenril: maybe i'll try it |
| 07:05.07 | jair | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:05.24 | jelly-home | FlyingFoX: if you have the original old one, you can create a diff, and try appliying that on the new file. Is this config file managed by debian's conffile or ucf system? |
| 07:05.47 | newsense | jair: it plays no h264's at all ? |
| 07:05.57 | newsense | or just that one ? |
| 07:06.02 | jelly-home | FlyingFoX: if it's your own package or file, consider using ucf |
| 07:06.16 | FlyingFoX | jelly-home: i dont know what manages it. how can i check that? |
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| 07:06.58 | jelly-home | FlyingFoX: dpkg -S /path/to/file will list a package it belongs to if it's a conffile. What's the actual path?\ |
| 07:07.21 | FlyingFoX | it is the apache2.conf |
| 07:07.32 | FlyingFoX | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:07.43 | FlyingFoX | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:07.51 | jelly-home | phew |
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| 07:08.27 | FlyingFoX | i know there is a graphical thing for that thats called meld. but i need a comand line version atm |
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| 07:08.41 | jelly-home | at least you got it right from the third try. |
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| 07:11.33 | jelly-home | I don't know of a tool to automatically manage options in apache2.conf, which you seem to want to do |
| 07:11.33 | jair | newsense: that is a .mp4 video 720p |
| 07:12.13 | jair | newsense: I am honestly not understanding what you mean with => h264's? |
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| 07:15.36 | simonrvn | jelly-home: dancing and singing bots! |
| 07:15.51 | jelly-home | FlyingFoX: if you're not averse to scripting, take a look at Apache::Admin::Config module |
| 07:16.44 | jair | elenril: sorry here is the mplayer error => http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/7287/errmplayer1.png |
| 07:16.44 | FlyingFoX | jelly-home: all right thx |
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| 07:26.07 | SanjoyDas | I'm getting a 'Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_squeeze_contrib_source_Sources' error. Any idea what might be causing this? |
| 07:26.25 | SanjoyDas | I was trying to build-dep monodevelop |
| 07:27.12 | SanjoyDas | The file is truly missing, is there a way it might be replaced? |
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| 07:28.32 | jelly-home | jair: what does "xvinfo" say? Do you have anything in ~/.mplayer/config or /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf? |
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| 07:29.24 | simonrvn | SanjoyDas: update |
| 07:29.43 | simonrvn | SanjoyDas: i.e. aptitude update |
| 07:29.56 | SanjoyDas | simonrvn: Lemme try. |
| 07:31.17 | SanjoyDas | simonvrn: Works now! Anyways, this happened for the first time on my system. Any idea why? |
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| 07:32.29 | simonrvn | SanjoyDas: random neutrino flux in the neutrino capturing device on the second capacitor |
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| 07:33.37 | simonrvn | yeh ok. quit when i had a bofh-style answer for you. sheesh, what a waste. |
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| 07:35.07 | SnakDoc | any ideas as to why linux-igd not setting up forward in iptables |
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| 07:36.20 | SnakDoc | only thing i can think of is linux-igd doesn't have permission to access iptables |
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| 07:58.56 | Amarande | hmm |
| 07:59.03 | Amarande | does having a swap partition that is used rarely pose a security risk? |
| 08:01.27 | nooper | as opposed to having swap thats frequently used or as opposed to not having swap? |
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| 08:04.51 | Amarande | nooper: as opposed to swap that's frequently used |
| 08:05.15 | Amarande | is rarely used swap likely to often contain sensitive data, and thus the swap should be dropped unless you're confident it will be overwritten often? |
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| 08:05.37 | Amarande | is of the school that you're usually supposed to have swap no matter how much RAM you have |
| 08:07.25 | Amarande | hmm |
| 08:07.35 | Amarande | also: any of you have thoughts on http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133274 as a card for a debian box? |
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| 08:08.49 | Amarande | is considering it as a replacement for my current ATI 3870, which is awesome but sadly a bad idea if I want 3D acceleration in Linux |
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| 08:10.50 | pingouin | Amarande: checkk the supported cards by nvidia drivers, on nvidia.com, but i guess it should be ok |
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| 08:11.11 | pingouin | Amarande: and for the swap, if you're paranoid, you can crypt it |
| 08:12.23 | pingouin | Amarande: the quadro card are more for professionals cao i guess than the classics geforces |
| 08:12.44 | Amarande | it's apparently an equivalent to a 9500 GT |
| 08:13.41 | pingouin | Amarande: http://www.saout.de/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php |
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| 08:21.43 | AlexC_ | morning |
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| 08:22.18 | AlexC_ | everytime there is a kernel update, something is edited /boot/grub/menu.lst however it alters all 'root=/dev/sda2' to 'root=/dev/sda3' which means I have to manually edit that file to adjust it, back to what it should be |
| 08:22.37 | AlexC_ | what could be causing this, and how to fix? |
| 08:22.55 | svenx | 1) not sure, i would check the source. 2) use label or uuid to identify the partition instead |
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| 08:23.35 | AlexC_ | svenx, source of? I'll try uuid, see if that fixes it next time around |
| 08:23.35 | Amarande | hmm, doesn't seem to have changed mine and I had a kernel update recently |
| 08:23.40 | Amarande | squeeze? |
| 08:23.42 | Amarande | or sid? |
| 08:23.49 | Amarande | since I run lenny and the updates don't do that |
| 08:23.51 | AlexC_ | Amarande, no, Lenny - has done it every time for every kernel update |
| 08:23.59 | plaur | i wanted to get a Linksys NSLU2 and run debian on it, but saw they're discontinued since 2008... any recommendations for something similar (for use as NAS, web server, etc. - preferably quiet)? |
| 08:24.03 | Amarande | speaking of which, is the recent lenny kernel update critical enough to bother rebooting ASAP or should I just wait till the next time I need to boot? |
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| 08:25.01 | SPF | AlexC_: change your kopt line into: # kopt=root=/dev/sda2 ro |
| 08:25.24 | AlexC_ | SPF, where is this? |
| 08:25.29 | Amarande | http://pastebin.com/d6565de48 and it's not changing my kernel options away from sda2. |
| 08:25.32 | SPF | menu.lst |
| 08:25.35 | Amarande | what kind of HD setup are you using? |
| 08:25.43 | AlexC_ | SPF, got it, thanks :) This looks like it should fix it |
| 08:26.00 | SPF | AlexC_: do not remove the #, and read the comments :) |
| 08:26.24 | AlexC_ | SPF, do not remove? That seems little strange to me, would be kept as a comment, surely? |
| 08:26.57 | AlexC_ | ah, I see the big text at the top, nevermind |
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| 08:36.53 | ethanol | say mornin' all |
| 08:37.37 | Amarande | it's not morning, it's me not having gotten sleepy enough to sleep yet |
| 08:37.42 | Amarande | consumes ethanol |
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| 08:52.07 | ethanol | I suppose that could be the case as well |
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| 09:22.40 | elenril | jair: i meant console output |
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| 09:37.27 | sep | any packages in debian that can check and alert for disk faults in areca hw raid controllers ? i notice there are tools for lsi hp and compaq |
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| 09:40.06 | uwjweq | How can import an rsa key? |
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| 09:40.38 | jelly | sep: hp and compaq are pretty much the same thing for all practical purposes |
| 09:41.07 | sep | nowadays yes, but what abour areca ? |
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| 09:42.10 | arthur_ | hi, i am trying to build a pcap library with pfring support. after compiling and installing it i still can see it with ldconfig. am i doins something wrong? |
| 09:43.04 | jelly | arthur_: you can still see what? |
| 09:44.14 | arthur_ | if i install libpcap with aptitude, i can see libpcpap in the ldconfig list with ldconfig -v. |
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| 09:44.57 | jelly | arthur_: that's normal. |
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| 09:45.22 | arthur_ | building it myself and installing it in usr/local/lib and it doesn't show anymore even though i have addes /usr/local/lib to he dir ldconfig searches. |
| 09:45.51 | jelly | arthur_: I suppose the cleanest way to make all the apps use your pcap would be to build a package with your patch/build options |
| 09:46.15 | jelly | arthur_: does LD_LIBRARY_PATH work? |
| 09:46.52 | arthur_ | even though it doesn't show up tcpdump works with pfring |
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| 09:47.21 | arthur_ | so is this a normal behavior? |
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| 09:47.49 | jelly | doesn't sounds normal at all, what ldd points to is what should be used |
| 09:48.11 | jelly | arthur_: what does ldd `which tcpdump` say to be used? |
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| 09:50.25 | arthur_ | it doen't mention any pcap version only libpfring. this might be what i was looking for though |
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| 09:52.18 | jelly | likely, the filename is libpfring* but soname is still libpcap.so.0.8 |
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| 09:52.58 | razorx | morning :) |
| 09:53.00 | Anon373 | hey anyone wanna chat? |
| 09:53.35 | sep | you don't obviously :) |
| 09:53.42 | arthur_ | currently all program use the pfring lib. i just need to get pypcap going to so python programs can use it. thanks again jellly |
| 09:55.38 | jelly | cheers |
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| 09:58.36 | aaron | hey i have a question I'm using fluxbox with my laptop on gnome my mouse works on the middle that i just tap it on the middle and it closes the windows and stuff like that when i used. fluxbox that disables the mouse button to make clicks how can i fixed this? |
| 09:59.08 | chrisb | aaron: huh? |
| 09:59.13 | aaron | the touchpad |
| 09:59.15 | aaron | of the mouse |
| 09:59.27 | aaron | using fluxbox it get's disable how can i fixed this one |
| 09:59.59 | mobidev | hi to all |
| 10:00.10 | aaron | do you copy now chrisb ? |
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| 10:01.20 | chrisb | aaron: so fluxbox disables your touchpad button? |
| 10:01.45 | Amarande | man I hope 4 hours is enough to go from drunk to work-safe sober |
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| 10:02.16 | chrisb | aaron: can you still move the pointer with the touchpad? |
| 10:02.41 | aaron | nope i can't |
| 10:03.43 | chrisb | aaron: Does it work in just X? ( just type X from command line). |
| 10:04.10 | aaron | yes it does |
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| 10:05.07 | chrisb | aaron: has it ever worked in fluxbox? |
| 10:05.13 | aaron | nop |
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| 10:07.13 | chrisb | aaron: I don't use fluxbox, but I would rename config file and then try again |
| 10:07.21 | aaron | brb |
| 10:08.04 | chrisb | aaron: IOW, try and narrow it down to from when it does work to when it doesn't |
| 10:08.45 | chrisb | aaron: brb? ... like buuurrrp? :) |
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| 10:22.24 | Coudy | hello,I have Debian 5.0 and I'm trying to run bash-completion, |
| 10:22.24 | Coudy | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:22.24 | Coudy | complete -F _known_hosts host |
| 10:22.25 | Coudy | complete -F _known_hosts ping |
| 10:22.25 | Coudy | but completion isn't workinkg. I'm trying to complete host name from /etc/hosts |
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| 10:24.47 | bolt | is there a way i can get the output from tar (the list of files as it processes them) to print on the console while still outputting the tarball to -, and piping it into another command? |
| 10:24.59 | Coudy | hello,I have Debian 5.0 and I'm trying to run bash-completion, complete -p | grep _known show me complete -F _known_hosts host and complete -F _known_hosts ping , but completion isn't workinkg. I'm trying to complete host name from /etc/hosts |
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| 10:26.02 | nooper | bolt: which other command? |
| 10:26.20 | nooper | nevermind |
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| 10:27.41 | bolt | nooper: ssh and tar again, essentially |
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| 10:31.53 | vescha | for some reason when i try to open phpmyadmin i get redirected to google with the name of my server as the search term ... is is normal? |
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| 10:36.12 | emilsedgh_ | may i ask how should i configure my x in sid? its not reading from hal anymore, it seems. |
| 10:36.54 | bolt | bah. tar is already outputting to stderr when i use -v. nevermind my previous question. |
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| 10:37.49 | chrisb | bolt: the man pages are normally informative. :) |
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| 10:45.30 | ZiG|ZaG | have you guys any idea where i should put index.html for apache? i tried starting in /var/www where index.html is located and restarting apache it however has not made a difference |
| 10:46.18 | sep | debian default have a redirect to apache docs if you have that installed youll see a redirect in your site config. |
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| 10:46.30 | |Steve| | ZiG|ZaG: That worked for me. |
| 10:46.39 | vescha | for some reason when i try to open phpmyadmin i get redirected to google with the name of my server as the search term ... is is normal? |
| 10:46.39 | ZiG|ZaG | yeah i couldn't find any indication in the config |
| 10:46.48 | sep | other then that look at documentroot in your site config |
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| 10:46.49 | beli | ZiG|ZaG: check your config....Document Root |
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| 10:47.01 | ZiG|ZaG | okay |
| 10:47.02 | sep | ZiG|ZaG, /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/* |
| 10:47.15 | ZiG|ZaG | cheers, i'll check it out |
| 10:47.16 | sep | look at what sites you have and what their document root is |
| 10:47.48 | sep | vescha, probably your browser haveing search in address bar enabeld |
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| 10:48.08 | ZiG|ZaG | yah weird. documentroot /is /var/www |
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| 10:48.14 | vescha | sep, that was actually it hehe |
| 10:48.18 | sep | look for a line saying redirect something |
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| 10:48.56 | yagoo | ZiG|ZaG, weird you say? You making fun out of Apache directives tough guy? |
| 10:49.14 | ZiG|ZaG | haha no |
| 10:49.52 | ZiG|ZaG | weird in the sense two senses abeit not traditional |
| 10:50.04 | ZiG|ZaG | in two senses* excuse my grammar |
| 10:50.09 | sep | if therei s a line redirecting to apache2-docs or soemthing you can comment away that. |
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| 10:50.51 | clamiax | hi |
| 10:51.38 | clamiax | Okay, I thought it was solved but it isn't. I can say it's a problem which occur randomly. |
| 10:52.18 | clamiax | My BackSpace auto-repeat gets removed once X started. It's about three days I'm trying to solve it in any way but without luck. |
| 10:52.32 | clamiax | If anyone is able to reproduce the problem or can give me any kind of hint it would be very appreciated! |
| 10:52.35 | clamiax | Thanks in advance. |
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| 10:54.31 | sep | only that one key ? |
| 10:55.49 | clamiax | sep: yes, the "original" BackSpace works if I don't inverts it with the Caps_Lock |
| 10:56.09 | clamiax | but once ~/.xmodmaprc is called, and the keys gets swapped, the auto-repeat doesn't works anymore |
| 10:56.37 | clamiax | xset is run from ~/.xinitrc, I'm sure of this. But once X starts then it gets reset again. |
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| 10:57.01 | sep | no idea sorry |
| 10:57.10 | clamiax | ;) |
| 10:57.11 | clamiax | np |
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| 10:57.47 | phet | Hello, I am getting an error when I try to open my USB pendrive |
| 10:57.58 | phet | Rejected send message, 3 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.11" (uid=1001 pid=3603 comm="kded [kdeinit] --new-startup ") interface="org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member="Mount" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination="org.freedesktop.Hal" (uid=0 pid=3207 comm="/usr/sbin/hald ")) |
| 10:58.01 | phet | this error |
| 10:58.24 | clamiax | phet: did you try to mount it by hand? |
| 10:58.39 | phet | no, I just plugged it and the KDE showed |
| 10:58.55 | clamiax | phet: try, you could get more informations from mount(1). |
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| 10:59.13 | phet | clamiax: is any easy method to know which device it is? |
| 10:59.18 | SlayerXP | phet: dmesg |
| 10:59.23 | clamiax | phet: I guess dmesg should be the way. |
| 10:59.41 | phet | ok thank you |
| 10:59.43 | phet | gonna try it |
| 10:59.48 | clamiax | good luck. |
| 11:02.27 | phet | usb drives are usually vfat? |
| 11:03.11 | clamiax | phet: indeed yes. |
| 11:03.15 | chrisb | phet: yep |
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| 11:03.32 | clamiax | I'm not sure why but that is it. |
| 11:03.35 | phet | It worked fine, so it is an KDE error :( |
| 11:03.52 | clamiax | or misconfiguration |
| 11:04.50 | ZiG|ZaG | okay it's remedied thanks |
| 11:04.54 | phet | true |
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| 11:13.54 | chrisb | clamiax: the debian-user mailing list might be the best place to sort out your prob with bkspce key. |
| 11:14.59 | clamiax | chrisb: i'd already check the list without results. It's my last resource, I'll post there, eventually, after lurk the X.Org lists (which seems to have some helpful information). THX. |
| 11:17.08 | chrisb | clamiax: If you post there, and are not subscribed, ask to be cc'd otherwise you won't see any replys |
| 11:17.28 | clamiax | sure, THX for your suggestions. |
| 11:18.43 | chrisb | clamiax: It's annoying when you have a prob. but can't seem to find the answer. |
| 11:20.10 | clamiax | Well, I'm not much optimistic. Unpredictable bugs are harder to discovery/fix, so I'm pretty sure I'll have to wait for some packages update (likely xserver-xorg-input-evdev) |
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| 11:21.34 | chrisb | clamiax: So, it only happens sometimes? |
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| 11:21.48 | clamiax | No, it sometimes works :-) |
| 11:22.13 | clamiax | I wondering if is there a way to set auto-repeat via xmodmap (like the console does with its keymap). |
| 11:22.25 | clamiax | It would prevent me from use xset(1) and would be a nice try. |
| 11:22.49 | chrisb | clamiax>: you sure it isn't crook keyboard? |
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| 11:23.36 | clamiax | mmh... consider that if I run xset after X started everything works properly. It shouldn't be related to the hardware at all |
| 11:24.20 | clamiax | it seems there's a patch for xmodmap. I must try! |
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| 11:26.58 | Weisser | Hello, i did an update yesterday, and my debconf died before it let me choose my keyboard layout. Now gnome won't start, i am using fluxbox now. |
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| 11:27.30 | Weisser | gdm starts, i try to login and it only shows me a message in lower right corner, but in polish so i can't tell exactly what it is in english |
| 11:27.38 | Weisser | something about problems with configuaration :f |
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| 11:29.54 | clamiax | addio |
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| 11:33.56 | samaira | how do i backup a particular directory ? should i use tar or dd ? |
| 11:34.23 | petemc | definitely not dd |
| 11:34.35 | petemc | samaira: tar or cp or rsync |
| 11:36.04 | samaira | i am going to backup virtualbox folder. can u please provide an example ? |
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| 11:36.43 | petemc | tar cjf backup.tar.bz2 directory/ |
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| 11:39.42 | samaira | thank u petemc |
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| 11:40.48 | clamiax | Okay, I also tried with a patched version of xmodmap which enables to set auto-repeat for keycodes directly via xmodmaprc (ergo, no xset(1) is needed). It works from X but doesn't from ~/.xmodmaprc called via xinitrc |
| 11:41.06 | clamiax | It's obvious, at this point, that something change the configuration after X started. |
| 11:41.29 | xlotlu | aware of any software to control cameras for time lapse? |
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| 11:51.42 | freegoduy | hey all |
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| 11:52.39 | freegoduy | if ubuntu is based on debian, does it mean Debian is just a core? and ubuntu is superior? |
| 11:53.40 | petemc | if thats not a troll, its certainly a false dichotomy |
| 11:53.42 | oggei | ubuntu is an ancient word that means "i don't know how to use debian" |
| 11:53.49 | oggei | very sad |
| 11:54.08 | Kamping_Kaiser | petemc: i didn't bother thinking past your comma :) |
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| 11:54.15 | clamiax | freegoduy: it just started as debian-based system, then evolved its own way. Today the only debian things on Ubuntu seems to be the apt |
| 11:54.28 | clamiax | freegoduy: it's different. Check your self if it's better for you. |
| 11:54.34 | clamiax | *yourself |
| 11:55.01 | freegoduy | clamiax: will do m8 thanks. |
| 11:55.11 | clamiax | Well, let us known what you think about. |
| 11:55.12 | clamiax | ;) |
| 11:55.20 | mquin | Ubuntu builds on the same technologies but has a different focus. The differing scope of the two projects is of benifit to both. 'Better' is alwasy dependent on what your needs are |
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| 11:55.21 | freegoduy | clamiax: will do |
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| 11:55.53 | beli | detex: think linux, not distribution! |
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| 12:03.23 | m3tti | hey everyone when i setup a system with debootstrap and i'm installing a kernel and the whole kde desktop is there everything installed as it is on the install cd? |
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| 12:04.06 | Aldus | Hi, an usb drive was mounted to my debian server (located remotely), but now every time I reboot the server it tries to boot from this (empty) usb drive. How can I from debian prevent this happening and setup the right boot device? |
| 12:04.32 | petemc | !tell m3tti about standard task |
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| 12:05.24 | clamiax | Aldus, if the server tries to *boot* from there it's not a Debian problem but a BIOS configuration stuff. |
| 12:05.43 | clamiax | Aldus: alternatively look at the /etc/fstab to see what partition gets mounted at startup. |
| 12:05.44 | Aldus | they say that in the bios everything is ok |
| 12:05.53 | clamiax | Aldus, then the latter ;) |
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| 12:06.37 | m3tti | petemc: thanks |
| 12:07.08 | Aldus | clamiax: http://nopaste.info/75d4d00753.html |
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| 12:10.59 | clamiax | Aldus: there's no usb device listed there. Also, you sholuld know what you changed to your fstab before it stopped to work. |
| 12:11.03 | clamiax | *should |
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| 12:12.06 | blizzkid | anyone has a good link on how to set up a second, chrooted mysql server in debian? |
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| 12:12.59 | clamiax | Aldus: you should provide boot errors and devices informations in order to help us to help you. |
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| 12:19.43 | Aldus | clamiax: thanks |
| 12:19.45 | Aldus | will find the way |
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| 12:22.59 | DebianIR | HI ALL DEBIAN USERS |
| 12:23.13 | overmind | DebianIR: Please, isable caps :) |
| 12:23.24 | wols_ | Aldus: boot device has nothing to do with mounting. are you sure this USB drive hasn't rewritten your bootloader? |
| 12:24.00 | DebianIR | ok . who can help me for create live from installed debian ? |
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| 12:24.46 | wols_ | !tell DebianIR about livecd |
| 12:25.06 | DebianIR | wols_ , this is channel ? |
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| 12:25.39 | wols_ | #debian is a channel. what you just got is a factoid from dpkg via PM |
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| 12:26.37 | DebianIR | i', installed all of packages of create live . but wen i use lh_config report problem : command not found |
| 12:27.42 | wols_ | DebianIR: http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=lh_config&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any |
| 12:28.34 | DebianIR | wols_: i'm installed that . |
| 12:29.17 | wols_ | !tell DebianIR about errors |
| 12:30.26 | DebianIR | live-helper is already the newest version. lh_config bash: lh_config: command not found .... |
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| 12:31.06 | wols_ | ls /usr/bin/lh_config |
| 12:31.48 | DebianIR | wols_ : ls: cannot access /usr/bin/lh_config: No such file or directory |
| 12:33.04 | wols_ | DebianIR: dpkg -L live-helper |grep lh_config |
| 12:33.58 | DebianIR | wols_ : /usr/share/man/man1/lh_config.1.gz /usr/share/live-helper/helpers/lh_config |
| 12:35.03 | wols_ | DebianIR: your live-help is broken. as the packages.debian.org link above shows, it needs to have /usr/bin/lh_config in there |
| 12:35.15 | wols_ | which debian branch are you running? |
| 12:35.28 | topi` | what's the best way of doing mail threading? by looking at References: field? (it should always be same in a thread) |
| 12:35.36 | DebianIR | wols_ : Linux debian 2.6.32-trunk-686 #1 SMP Sun Jan 10 06:32:16 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 12:36.10 | topi` | I'm developing a python script to do some data mining on linux-kernel mailing lists |
| 12:36.15 | wols_ | that's a kernel version, not a debian branch. someone who runs sid should know that |
| 12:36.37 | samaira | i took backup of .virtualbox folder in /home. when i restored the backup, it has created /home/user/.virtualbox folders. can somebody please guide me how to restore files and folders properly. |
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| 12:37.03 | grig | hi guys |
| 12:37.22 | wols_ | DebianIR: you run sid. sid has bugs and its user is expected to deal with them. like in this case, a broken package |
| 12:37.25 | samaira | it has created /home/user/.virtualbox inside /home/user/.virtualbox folder |
| 12:38.05 | wols_ | samaira: you didn't restore properly then. why not just copy everything to the right place now? |
| 12:38.26 | DebianIR | wols_ , A way to correct this problem does not exist? |
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| 12:38.56 | wols_ | DebianIR: I told you: a sid user is expected to solve such problems on his own |
| 12:39.14 | wols_ | if you can't, you shouldn't run sid but stable. stable doesn't hsve this problem |
| 12:41.00 | DebianIR | wols_ , thanks |
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| 12:43.04 | samaira | wols | this is my command, please let me know the mistakes : # tar xvpfj /home/user/Desktop/sp2.tar.bz2 -C /home/user/.VirtualBox/ |
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| 12:44.24 | wols_ | samaira: in your tarball, the absolute directories are stored, but you unpack it in /home/user/.VirtualBox/ instead of simply / |
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| 12:45.00 | samaira | wols | that means i should just type / after -C |
| 12:45.04 | wols_ | tar -tvfj sp2.tat.bz2 |less should show you the filenames |
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| 12:48.25 | samaira | the command is showing error : tar: J : cannot open. no such file or directoy |
| 12:49.20 | wols_ | now where did I tell you to use an uppercase J anywhere? |
| 12:49.28 | Elite | what can ya'll make of this error:http://pastebin.org/91964 |
| 12:50.02 | wols_ | Elite: an earlier apt-get run errored out but you ignored that |
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| 12:50.08 | Elite | I was trying to install a web hosting control panel and got fed up and removed it manually and something removed too much, and now I get that error |
| 12:50.11 | wols_ | now, apt will nag you forever until you fix it |
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| 12:50.33 | wols_ | Elite: have you read the error message? |
| 12:50.45 | Elite | the one I psted? |
| 12:50.52 | wols_ | yes, that one |
| 12:51.06 | SlayerXP | Elite: You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct those. |
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| 12:51.28 | Elite | I did, I'll paste what that gives me |
| 12:52.14 | Elite | http://pastebin.org/91965 |
| 12:52.33 | Elite | thats what I get when I apt-get -f install |
| 12:52.49 | vlt | Hello. An apache process runs on 100% cpu for several minutes now. Is there a way to find out which http request causes this? |
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| 12:54.33 | Elite | SlayerXP: http://pastebin.org/91965 this is what I get when I run apt-get -f install |
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| 12:54.56 | wols_ | Elite: clean the apt cache and redownload these packages |
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| 12:56.10 | SlayerXP | Elite: was afk, i think your local apt cache is stuffed. "apt-get clean && apt-get update" |
| 12:57.14 | Elite | still getting the error |
| 12:57.43 | Elite | I got the guy down there going to reimage it, he enjoyed my 6:30 am phone call lmao |
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| 12:59.43 | WormFood | vlt, try asking in a different channel (#apache maybe) |
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| 13:03.31 | slooe | http://xpango.com.pl/ |
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| 13:09.24 | tjingboem | i have dual core pentium. which version of debian testing can i dowload? |
| 13:10.02 | d1b | tjingboem: amd64 maybe - certainly i386 |
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| 13:11.04 | tjingboem | dlb, thanks. ill try the 64 bits |
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| 13:18.23 | sleon | hi |
| 13:18.39 | sleon | what is the name of utility which creates and manages changelog file in debian format? |
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| 13:20.41 | CooPs89 | how do I tell aptitude to never update a certain package? |
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| 13:22.00 | CooPs89 | i built pure-ftpd with custom build switches and I don't want the install to be overridden |
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| 13:22.47 | daltio | guys |
| 13:22.58 | daltio | i want to munt a usb on my debain box |
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| 13:24.45 | daltio | i am using mount /dev/sda1 /test |
| 13:24.53 | daltio | i cannot write into usb |
| 13:24.57 | daltio | only read |
| 13:25.04 | daltio | any idea how i mount it |
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| 13:25.23 | daltio | i use mount -t ntfs -o /dev/sda1 /test |
| 13:25.24 | daltio | no uses |
| 13:26.09 | CooPs89 | sounds like the file system drivers won't allow you to write to NTFS... |
| 13:26.49 | CooPs89 | it's a propitiatory format, so wouldn't surprise me if they couldn't implement writing for some versions |
| 13:27.08 | daltio | what to do now |
| 13:27.21 | CooPs89 | format the usb with FAT |
| 13:27.22 | jelly | daltio: /msg dpkg ntfsrw |
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| 13:30.01 | sleon | hi |
| 13:30.08 | sleon | what does it mean> |
| 13:30.11 | sleon | dpkg-gencontrol: error: syntax error in debian/control at line 6: first block lacks a source field |
| 13:30.21 | sleon | what is first block |
| 13:30.26 | sleon | and what is source field?? |
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| 13:32.10 | abrotman | sleon: which packagE? which version of debian ? |
| 13:32.42 | sleon | i am creating my own pacakge abrotman |
| 13:33.04 | themill | dpkg: tell sleon about nmg |
| 13:33.40 | themill | sleon: you have a lot of reading to do then.... the new maintainer's guide and policy should be in your reading pile, along with grabbing a few existing packages and seeing how they work. |
| 13:34.05 | sleon | nice |
| 13:34.15 | sleon | this should be not a debian package |
| 13:34.21 | sleon | i mean package for debian distribution |
| 13:34.28 | sleon | it should be a simple private one |
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| 13:35.23 | sleon | i hope that it is possible |
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| 13:35.30 | sleon | i think i simple use checkinstall ... |
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| 13:41.38 | clamiax | brb |
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| 13:45.50 | michael_ | hi. an iptables script should be in if-up or if-pre-up? if-pre-up should be more safe right? |
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| 13:47.33 | Elite | can someone paste their /etc/apt/sources.list for me? I am missing a few lines |
| 13:47.41 | michael_ | also, having some problems getting the rules to stick when i reboot.. i followed this guide: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/615 |
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| 13:48.35 | michael_ | Elite: |
| 13:48.35 | michael_ | Elite: deb http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/debian/ lenny main |
| 13:48.35 | michael_ | deb-src http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/debian/ lenny main |
| 13:48.35 | michael_ | deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main |
| 13:48.35 | michael_ | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main |
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| 13:48.49 | michael_ | whoops :D |
| 13:48.54 | Elite | lol |
| 13:49.06 | Elite | thanks |
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| 13:52.13 | varlon | hi, why ffmpeg in debian compiled with --disable-encoder=msmpeg4v3 and --disable-encoder=h263 ? how can I enabled this encoders? |
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| 13:53.37 | jelly | varlon: patent/licensing issues |
| 13:53.44 | jelly | judd: versions ffmpeg |
| 13:53.46 | judd | ffmpeg -- etch: 0.cvs20060823-8; etch-security: 0.cvs20060823-8+etch1; lenny-security: 0.svn20080206-17+lenny1; lenny: 0.svn20080206-18; etch-multimedia: 3:20070329-0.0etch1; lenny-multimedia: 3:20080706-0.3lenny1; squeeze: 4:0.5+svn20090706-5; sid: 4:0.5+svn20090706-6; squeeze-multimedia: 5:0.5+svn20100126-0.0; sid-multimedia: 5:0.5+svn20100208-0.1 |
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| 13:54.01 | jelly | varlon: use the one from debian-multimedia.org, /msg dpkg dmm |
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| 13:55.41 | varlon | jelly, thanks |
| 13:56.32 | Elite | I just use skill -KILL -u root and now I can't ssh to my serer, did I do wrong? |
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| 13:57.06 | jelly | Elite: you did |
| 13:57.14 | Elite | damnit! |
| 13:57.22 | pav5088 | Is anyone here interested in server management using an LDAP infrastructure? ie. managing samba+PDC, unix accounts, groupware, squid, Asterisk, Nagios, FAI, OPSI and lots more stuff... It's here and it works but we need more users (and hopefully more developers). Go to #gosa... |
| 13:57.46 | Elite | jelly, what did I do wrong exactly? |
| 13:57.48 | wols_ | please pav5088: don't do this unless you want a kline |
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| 13:58.20 | jelly | Elite: you forcibly killed all processes owned by root, which pretty much means most of the system |
| 13:58.24 | pav5088 | wols_, how do I hunt down developers for a Debian packaged project then? |
| 13:58.42 | Elite | jelly: so I need it to be rebooted? |
| 13:58.44 | jelly | Elite: one good thing about it, this is quote material wrong |
| 13:58.52 | jelly | Elite: probably |
| 13:58.53 | wols_ | pav5088: not by spamming, that's for sure |
| 13:59.28 | jelly | !qotd263 |
| 13:59.28 | dpkg | from memory, qotd263 is <Elite> I just use skill -KILL -u root and now I can't ssh to my serer, did I do wrong? |
| 13:59.47 | nkuttler | !tell pav5088 about consultants |
| 13:59.47 | pav5088 | wols_, OK, I'll just do some Zen meditation then... |
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| 14:00.06 | Elite | dpkg |
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| 14:01.04 | pav5088 | nkuttler, I've found this project interesting enough to have been working on it myself for a year... |
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| 14:01.45 | Elite | jelly: what about quotes? |
| 14:02.04 | jelly | Elite: I just added yours to the database. |
| 14:02.10 | Elite | of? |
| 14:02.16 | jelly | funny quotes. |
| 14:02.20 | Elite | lol |
| 14:02.47 | jelly | it's more of a famous last words one, though |
| 14:02.48 | jelly | !flw |
| 14:02.49 | dpkg | <coachz> i don't need no stinking docs |
| 14:02.53 | pav5088 | I've got plenty of patches to my name... *shrugs* just looking for other interested people... I guess I can ask the others about posting to slashdot or something. |
| 14:03.12 | Elite | docs....we don't need no stinking docs! |
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| 14:06.14 | Elite | jelly: I had the server rebooted however I still can't connect, what can I do? |
| 14:06.45 | wols_ | Elite: local or remote server? |
| 14:06.48 | jelly | Elite: no idea... does it answer to ping? Can you access the console? |
| 14:06.51 | OpenTokix | jelly: ok, now this days productivity dropped to zero, qotd0 ;) |
| 14:07.14 | Elite | sorry it took forever to boot :P |
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| 14:07.32 | wols_ | OpenTokix: if you need a full day to read 263 quotes, you need go back to elementary school for a refresher :P |
| 14:08.00 | The_Ball | Hi there, I'm running a really old Debian box (sarge) and I'm having some problems with some non-fresh RAID1 members popping up in /dev/mapper which results in mdadm being unable to claim them to re-add them to the md device. I've tried stopping LVM and restarting udev, none of which help getting them released. Any ideas about what I can do to reclaim them? |
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| 14:08.53 | khaije|selen | Is there a way to edit a symlink in place rather than replacing it? |
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| 14:09.20 | jelly | khaije|selen: what's wrong with replacing it? |
| 14:09.42 | jelly | (and, I've no idea if it's possible) |
| 14:09.51 | wols_ | ok, apnic.net being down explains a lot about broken whois lookups |
| 14:09.57 | smacnay | khaije|selen, if you run midnight commander, you can do that. |
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| 14:10.09 | khaije|selen | Jelly, nothing just curious |
| 14:10.18 | smacnay | mc allows you to edit symlinks |
| 14:10.34 | stdisease | but mc probably replaces too under the hood |
| 14:10.35 | Elite | wols_: its kinda both remote and local, I am not within 100 miles of it but a buddy of mine is lol |
| 14:10.59 | jelly | smacnay: and if you look at the inode number before and after, does it stay the same? |
| 14:11.06 | khaije|selen | stdisease, lol that's what I was thinking |
| 14:11.21 | stdisease | or maybe try vi /dev/<disk> (good luck, heh) |
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| 14:11.39 | jelly | khaije|selen: if you just want to do it in one command, add -f to ln options |
| 14:12.00 | stdisease | ln -f unlinks destination first so it's replacement in any case |
| 14:12.16 | khaije|selen | Anyway like I said not important, just curious... ah thx jelly & all |
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| 14:13.24 | LinuxGuy2009 | If install just the basic system and then install fluxbox, what do I do to get it to boot up into it? |
| 14:13.45 | Elite | !sources.list |
| 14:13.45 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 14:13.56 | stdisease | LinuxGuy2009: you have a display manager too, like xdm? |
| 14:14.01 | smacnay | jelly, I have never checked that. |
| 14:14.06 | varlon | I have a system where first user was sysop, when I got system. I removed sysop user. Now, when I install/update soft I got a error with wicd-* In /var/cache/debconf/config.dat I found records for wicd and attrs: Value: sysop. How can I remove this record, just edit in any text editor? |
| 14:14.21 | stdisease | also your nick is 1 year off :p |
| 14:14.23 | jelly | smacnay: then you don't really know! |
| 14:14.42 | jelly | stdisease: he was 2003 last year, this is way better |
| 14:14.48 | stdisease | jelly: lol |
| 14:15.09 | LinuxGuy2009 | stdisease: Well thats kinda what I needed to know. Its probably easier to use a display manager but i didnt know what would be apropriate I only really know of only gdm and kdm |
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| 14:15.29 | LinuxGuy2009 | stdisease: xdm like a generic manager? |
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| 14:15.34 | stdisease | LinuxGuy2009: hmm actually you may do without the display manager if you really need the space |
| 14:15.52 | stdisease | xdm it's like the login prompt but for X11 |
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| 14:16.25 | stdisease | LinuxGuy2009: if you don't want all the extra garbage related to kdm and gdm use xdm |
| 14:16.26 | ThoMe | hello. |
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| 14:16.52 | ThoMe | i need a howto for installing an ipsecserver, radius & co |
| 14:16.58 | LinuxGuy2009 | stdisease: Im just experimenting. Ok Ill look at that then. BTW Are there any other display managers that I should know about so I know all of my options? |
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| 14:17.09 | Elite | I am trying to install aweb hosting control panel and the docs say to run make install, when I do this it says -bash: make: command not found, why is this? |
| 14:17.28 | slidesinger-lt | I have been looking into dynamic dns to add to my shorewall box |
| 14:17.42 | stdisease | LinuxGuy2009: run "apt-cache search 'display manager'", it will let you see options |
| 14:17.45 | uwjweq | LinuxGuy2009: You can log in with the console and then do a startx. |
| 14:17.45 | LinuxGuy2009 | stdisease: Yeah that was the exact reason cause I didnt want any of gnome installed if I just added gdm to the system.Thanks for clearing that up. |
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| 14:18.18 | LinuxGuy2009 | Awsome you guys are great! |
| 14:18.20 | stdisease | Elite: do you have 'make' installed?? |
| 14:19.07 | Elite | apparently not lol |
| 14:19.11 | stdisease | LinuxGuy2009: glad to be of help |
| 14:19.20 | uwjweq | Elite: apt-get install make ? As root. |
| 14:19.27 | stdisease | Elite: hehe, you know what to do then |
| 14:19.30 | Elite | must have somehow missed that step, going again through the docs |
| 14:19.33 | Elite | I got it |
| 14:19.40 | LinuxGuy2009 | One other thing, is it possible to set locally installed packages to never be removed unless I unmark them? |
| 14:20.15 | Elite | 3Mb connection and its still slow to download lmao |
| 14:20.17 | stdisease | LinuxGuy2009: I think there's an option in aptitude for that, probably with apt/dpkg too but Ive never bothered, RTFM |
| 14:20.27 | slidesinger-lt | Narrowed the field to ddns3-client, ddclient, and ez-ipupdate. I was wondering if anyone had any opinion as to which one might be preferred. |
| 14:20.38 | nikla | Im trying to figure out makesfiles, i need to install a directory with specific permissions. 'cp' cant seem to handle permissions while 'install' cant seem to handle directories, pointers? |
| 14:20.55 | LinuxGuy2009 | stdisease: Ok Im sure Ill find it I just wanted to check. Ill read the man pages. Thanks. |
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| 14:21.03 | stdisease | slidesinger-lt: I use ddclient, personally but I have not tried the others so. |
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| 14:21.59 | slidesinger-lt | stdisease: Had any issues with updates, or has it performed as expected. |
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| 14:22.12 | stdisease | Elite: im dabbling with 1Mb.. that'll soon change, though |
| 14:22.33 | stdisease | slidesinger-lt: it runs fine for me, I set it to update every hour |
| 14:22.52 | Elite | this is on a 3Mb, still kinda slow lol, can download a half gig from the plesk servers in 25 min lol |
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| 14:23.05 | slidesinger-lt | Thank you, I'll try that one first, then. |
| 14:23.06 | LinuxGuy2009 | Ok got another one. I just installed xdm and then it asked me to choose the default manager. Later on how do I manually change it without removing and reinstalling one of them? |
| 14:23.12 | \amethyst | nikla: just create the directory, or copy its contents too? |
| 14:23.53 | stdisease | slidesinger-lt: also it doesn't spam the dyndns servers when detecting same IP, so that they dont ban you |
| 14:24.10 | dlynes | I'm guessing another Debian release just came out? |
| 14:24.33 | themill | wonders why dlynes is making such guesses |
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| 14:24.55 | \amethyst | dlynes: a point release came out a few weeks ago, but squeeze isn't released yet |
| 14:25.03 | dlynes | themill, downloading file 5 of 46 |
| 14:25.06 | stdisease | LinuxGuy2009: oh, edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
| 14:25.22 | LinuxGuy2009 | stdisease: You da man. |
| 14:25.36 | dlynes | \amethyst, yeah...i got about 45 or 50 updated files a few weeks ago, too |
| 14:25.38 | stdisease | LinuxGuy2009: or you could run dpkg-reconfigure on some package, but idk what |
| 14:26.00 | themill | dlynes: security updates happen irrespective of other releases. You might like to subscribe to d-s-a and install apt-listchanges (/msg dpkg d-s-a ; /msg dpkg apt-listchanges) |
| 14:26.07 | stdisease | da man, not so much, lol |
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| 14:26.41 | LinuxGuy2009 | stdisease: No its cool that edit is as simple as it gets thats perfect. Only one line. |
| 14:27.30 | dlynes | themill, thanks |
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| 14:28.07 | stdisease | Right, why bother with dpkg-fancy-pantsy-reconfigure, wasted cpu cycles |
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| 14:29.51 | themill | stdisease: because they'd obviously be doing something otherwise.... Also, if debconf is tracking changes like this for you, then you have less config-file merging/editing to do later. |
| 14:30.32 | perty | hello internet, i have an iptables related question... i'm doing a bit ( http://pastebin.com/dc4ecf79 ) that checks if a client's MAC address is registered in the firewall allowing said client to connect to the internet, and i'm interested in knowing whether it's possible to have iptables run through a file holding MAC addresses, rather than have an entry per MAC address? |
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| 14:31.00 | stdisease | themill: dear god... ignorance is bliss |
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| 14:32.03 | jelly | stdisease: there's a lot of boilerplate to do in advance that pays off later (or at the user's side) |
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| 14:33.06 | brosef | how can i clear the history of my Alt+F2 launcher in lenny? i cleared /apps/gnome-settings/gnome-panel/history-gnome-run using gconf-editor but, after a reboot everything is back.. |
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| 14:34.03 | perty | so,.. instead of having the line "iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -s 10.10.0.11 -m mac --mac-source 6c:f0:49:02:90:05 -j MAC_CHECK2_MANGLE", as well as the other one, is it possible to somehow do like... iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -s 10.10.0.0/24 -m mac --mac-source [file with MACs] -j MAC_CHECK2_MANGLE ?? |
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| 14:34.18 | SkyKnight | how to restore /etc/rc*.d/links? I messed up by removing rc*.d links manually. |
| 14:34.40 | stdisease | SkyKnight: update-rc.d ? |
| 14:35.12 | babilen | rcconf, sysv-rc-conf ... |
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| 14:35.21 | themill | ln ... |
| 14:35.25 | svenx | perty: have you looked at ebtables? |
| 14:35.41 | svenx | perty: eh, never mind. read the rule wrong |
| 14:35.57 | SkyKnight | stdisease, babilen, themill: what to do If I forgot what I removed? |
| 14:36.44 | babilen | SkyKnight: Just configure the services like you want them to be. |
| 14:37.28 | stdisease | SkyKnight: and if it ain't broken, dont fix it |
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| 14:38.11 | stdisease | but that's just my own lazy approach |
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| 14:38.58 | SkyKnight | stdisease, Its loading but not getting in to X, I dont know the reason |
| 14:39.37 | babilen | SkyKnight: Is X loaded if you manually start xdm/gdm/kdm ? |
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| 14:39.51 | SkyKnight | babilen, Its not at all finish booting |
| 14:40.08 | SkyKnight | babilen, even if I boot as single user mode |
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| 14:41.04 | babilen | SkyKnight: Enable missing services |
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| 14:41.15 | babilen | SkyKnight: Or restore from your backups |
| 14:41.24 | OpenTokix | wols_: ah... yes... |
| 14:41.48 | stdisease | if you don't remember what you deleted try readding, xdm/kdm/gdm and dbus and hal for starters |
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| 14:42.14 | SkyKnight | babilen, ok ill try that and get back |
| 14:42.25 | SkyKnight | stdisease, thats my last hope ;-) |
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| 14:43.17 | stdisease | oops Im seeing sefaults with this new libc.. |
| 14:43.21 | matt7676 | I have a blackhole.sh script in /srv/www/cgi-bin/. Permissions are fallowing: www -> drwxr-xr-x; cgi-bin -> drwxr-xr-x; blacklist.sh -> -r-xr-xr-x. Script works fine from my local computer. However, if anyone tries to execute this outside my computer, the script just loads/hangs. Any ideas what might cause this? |
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| 14:44.10 | uncmar | what is the best way to kick gnome to the curb and use openbox? |
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| 14:44.30 | varlon | how can I enable monitor on remote machine? :) |
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| 14:44.34 | varlon | via ssh |
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| 14:44.57 | varlon | I just want to power on monitor, when they in powersave state |
| 14:45.05 | Juri | move the mouse? |
| 14:45.15 | varlon | via ssh? |
| 14:45.20 | Juri | x2x |
| 14:45.33 | Juri | tho you might find something neater, if you put a little work into it. |
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| 14:45.47 | varlon | no one near |
| 14:46.04 | brosef | sorry to repost, but how can i clear and disable the history of my Alt+F2 launcher in lenny? no info anywhere... |
| 14:46.07 | Juri | varlon: If you don't want to put in work: x2x |
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| 14:46.37 | Juri | what is a "Alt + F2" launcher? I don't think that is something about Debian, but something about your *shrugg* Desktop |
| 14:46.56 | varlon | :) |
| 14:47.41 | varlon | I want to test web cam. But night has come at my home and room in a dark |
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| 14:48.12 | brosef | Juri: sorry, it's gnome.. |
| 14:48.21 | Juri | brosef: why not ask the gnome folks? |
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| 14:48.31 | Juri | guess you'd have to delete a gconf2 key... |
| 14:48.50 | stdisease | or delete stuff somewhere under ~/.config/ |
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| 14:48.58 | d1b | varlon: restart x ? |
| 14:49.01 | chut | i want to install debian |
| 14:49.07 | chut | how many cd i need people |
| 14:49.08 | varlon | :) |
| 14:49.09 | chut | ? |
| 14:49.21 | uwjweq | chut: One or less. |
| 14:49.21 | d1b | chut: 1 |
| 14:49.37 | chut | i'm download debian-504-amd64-DVD1.iso |
| 14:49.39 | chut | is this? |
| 14:49.46 | d1b | thats ok |
| 14:49.47 | stdisease | netinst iso |
| 14:49.50 | uwjweq | chut: If you have a windows installation you can Install it right from windows. |
| 14:49.52 | varlon | d1b, it's idea, but to hurd |
| 14:49.52 | stdisease | thats ok too |
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| 14:49.54 | Juri | that's not gonna fit on one CD, right? |
| 14:50.08 | d1b | varlon: oh? |
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| 14:50.19 | chut | netinst iso is easier stdisease ? |
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| 14:50.40 | d1b | chut: just use what you are downloading |
| 14:50.45 | varlon | I'm mean it not best a way :) |
| 14:50.49 | stdisease | chut: not necessarily, but it's relatively very small and downloads oly the software you need from the internet as you install |
| 14:50.57 | chut | ohh |
| 14:51.17 | d1b | chut: i suggest cd1 or what you are currently downloading. |
| 14:51.24 | stdisease | assuming your networking hardware can work out of the box under linux |
| 14:51.27 | chut | yeah |
| 14:51.31 | chut | thanks |
| 14:51.44 | Juri | varlon: what didn't work about x2x? |
| 14:51.52 | d1b | varlon: there is vbetool |
| 14:51.56 | Juri | or in particular what do you dislike about the proposed solution? |
| 14:52.00 | d1b | but i havent ever worked out how to use that really :P |
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| 14:52.36 | brosef | Juri, stdisease: thanks folks! |
| 14:52.45 | boogeyman | Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces .. if it is depricated, what replaces it?? |
| 14:52.47 | chut | d1b, debian is not bleeding edge right? |
| 14:53.11 | d1b | chut: well there are many 'debian'. stable is stable |
| 14:53.14 | d1b | !releases |
| 14:53.14 | dpkg | See http://www.debian.org/releases/ for an explanation of releases. See <release history> for prior releases. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases |
| 14:53.21 | d1b | !stable |
| 14:53.21 | dpkg | [stable] The status of a Debian release when no packages will be added or new versions introduced, and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Lenny (5.0); ask me about <releases>. Security bugs are fixed in stable by backporting the fix to the current version (ask me about <security backports>). http://wiki.debian.org/DebianStable |
| 14:54.31 | chut | ohh |
| 14:54.34 | chut | i want debian stable |
| 14:54.36 | chut | yes |
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| 15:01.53 | Elite | how can I make sure my ftp server is running? |
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| 15:02.06 | nkuttler | Elite: connect to it? |
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| 15:02.31 | wols_ | Elite: man ps, man pidof, man netstat |
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| 15:18.34 | CodeNinja | not sure where this belongs..... I fixed it on my end by adding ] || [ where || is on line 113 /usr/share/dbconfig-common/dpkg/config: line 113: [: missing `]' |
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| 15:18.52 | CodeNinja | on squeeze |
| 15:19.40 | babilen | CodeNinja: huh? |
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| 15:20.42 | CodeNinja | babilen: there is a problem with dbconfig-common on squeeze, a missing ] causes dbconfig to not be able to determine what database type [mysql/pgsql,etc] you have configured/installed. |
| 15:20.57 | babilen | CodeNinja: Report a bug and include the patch |
| 15:21.05 | CodeNinja | where? |
| 15:21.08 | babilen | !bts |
| 15:21.08 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
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| 15:21.14 | babilen | CodeNinja: Use reportbug |
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| 15:21.59 | babilen | CodeNinja: 'reportbug dbconfig-common' - but check if that bug has already been reported |
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| 15:23.16 | CodeNinja | babilen: thanks, looking at the site right now for it |
| 15:24.04 | babilen | :-D |
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| 15:31.43 | Cymor | Anyone know why selinux depends on X11? |
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| 15:33.36 | CodeNinja | babilen: I feel acomplished now... I've helped the linux community :P |
| 15:35.48 | michael_ | does anyone know why my dns stopped working when i have configured iptables..? :P |
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| 15:37.32 | CodeNinja | michael_: did you enable port 53 and 5353 ? |
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| 15:38.13 | michael_ | CodeNinja: i have accept on all outgoing |
| 15:38.31 | daltio | guys i want to mount a NTFS USB diskon my debain box but i can not write on it after mount any idea? |
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| 15:39.37 | Cymor | daltio: permissions. is it mounted ro? does your regular user have permission to access the files? |
| 15:39.45 | CodeNinja | michael_: dns doesnt just go out >.> |
| 15:39.48 | daltio | no i am root |
| 15:39.52 | daltio | there |
| 15:40.10 | daltio | i use mount /dev/sda1 /test |
| 15:40.28 | wols_ | use ntfsmount or ntfs-3g |
| 15:41.18 | jelly | daltio: did you get that message from dpkg after you did "/msg dpkg ntfsrw" a while back? |
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| 15:41.31 | daltio | yes |
| 15:41.37 | Cymor | Anyone know why selinux would depend on x11-common? It's not a direct dependency |
| 15:41.43 | daltio | but ntfs-3g is for windows partition |
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| 15:41.46 | daltio | i gues |
| 15:42.05 | jelly | daltio: and ntfs is created and used in which OS? |
| 15:42.10 | wols_ | daltio: guess from what OS the NTFS filesystem comes? |
| 15:42.18 | daltio | its a rescue cd |
| 15:42.28 | wols_ | Cymor: is it a real dependency or a recommendation? |
| 15:42.31 | daltio | i wnat to mount usb disk and get backup |
| 15:42.52 | Cymor | wols_: real |
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| 15:43.20 | jelly | daltio: sorry, what's a rescue cd? Are you using Debian or something else? |
| 15:43.23 | Cymor | The following NEW packages will be installed: foo, bar, x11-common, etc |
| 15:43.34 | wols_ | Cymor: you didn't answer my question |
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| 15:43.50 | flo_ | hi |
| 15:43.52 | wols_ | Cymor: which package exactly is it that you think depends on x11-common? |
| 15:44.04 | WormFood | are there any tools in debian that will search for duplicate files, delete the duplicate file names and make hard links to them? |
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| 15:44.09 | aarkerio | hi! how can I upgrade my kernel on a virtualized system? |
| 15:44.15 | petemc | WormFood: fslint |
| 15:44.16 | Cymor | selinux-basics selinux-policy-default |
| 15:44.20 | aarkerio | there is no /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 15:44.22 | jelly | daltio: if it's a debian or debian-based livecd, you should be able to install ntfs-3g or ntfsprogs and use appropriate commands to mount a ntfs read-write |
| 15:44.25 | Cymor | either one comes up with that as a dependency |
| 15:44.34 | flo_ | i started a netinst installation on another pc... is there a way to control that pc via ssh or telnet now? |
| 15:44.39 | OpenTokix | aarkerio: Depends on the virt-type. |
| 15:44.41 | WormFood | petemc, what package is that in? |
| 15:44.52 | wols_ | Cymor: neither depends on x11-common |
| 15:44.53 | flo_ | the install is in progress, i'm only too lazy to run around in the house ;). is it possible? |
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| 15:44.56 | wols_ | !tell Cymor about recommends |
| 15:45.01 | OpenTokix | aarkerio: If it's xen, it will load a kernel from the Dom0 |
| 15:45.13 | aarkerio | or can I reload kernel without reboot? |
| 15:45.24 | wols_ | flo_: not really. you cannot "move" the installer console to a ssh session |
| 15:45.27 | Cymor | wols_: Directly, but when I try to apt-get them, that package plus a ton of fonts are listed |
| 15:45.35 | flo_ | :( |
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| 15:45.52 | flo_ | well, then i'll have to run around ^^ |
| 15:45.53 | wols_ | Cymor: learn what depends, recommends and suggests mean and how they differ |
| 15:46.16 | Cymor | You're not listening. |
| 15:46.20 | khaije|selen | Is there a way to combine two file paths / filesystem into a single "combined path" ? |
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| 15:46.54 | wols_ | you definitely aren't. just because apt says "I will install now X" doesn't mean X is an actual dependency of the package you install. if you read what dpkg told you instead of whining, you'd see why |
| 15:47.02 | Cymor | http://pastebin.com/m775e35f4 |
| 15:47.14 | khaije|selen | So a single audio folder that combines all users' audio for example |
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| 15:48.17 | wols_ | Cymor: you can pastebin such output all day, doesn't mean a thing |
| 15:48.17 | WormFood | d'oh! petemc, I found it...I was typing in "fslink" instead of "fslint"...thanks |
| 15:48.22 | petemc | np |
| 15:48.40 | petemc | WormFood: it doesnt do the hardlinking, but you can script that |
| 15:49.00 | aarkerio | OpenTokix, how can I know if my system is running on Xen? |
| 15:49.01 | WormFood | fdupes will also find duplicate files |
| 15:49.09 | wols_ | petemc: does it check if it's really the same file? e.g. md5sum? |
| 15:49.27 | OpenTokix | aarkerio: What is the name of the kernel, uname -a |
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| 15:49.53 | petemc | wols_: its written by one of the maintainers of coreutils, hes a smart chap |
| 15:50.02 | aarkerio | Linux synaptiu 2.6.18-128.1.1.el5.028stab062.3 #1 SMP Sun May 10 18:54:51 MSD 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 15:50.04 | wols_ | famous last words :) |
| 15:50.05 | WormFood | fdupes does a byte-by-byte compare...I'm pretty sure it does not just do an md5sum...should be faster, as each file just has to be read and compared, no compute intensive md5 |
| 15:50.18 | wols_ | arctanx: is this debian? |
| 15:50.23 | OpenTokix | aarkerio: el5 is a RedHat-kernel |
| 15:51.39 | jelly | aarkerio: right, those *stab* kernels are typically either vserver or that other virtual-jail-like vps solution |
| 15:51.54 | aarkerio | OpenTokix, well I bought a hosting in https://vpscp.a2hosting.com:8887/login/ |
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| 15:52.06 | OpenTokix | aarkerio: Did a quick google-search and it seems its openvz |
| 15:52.16 | d1b | wols_: if you want i can provide a python snippet for shaX (you pick :P) for finding duplicate files. |
| 15:52.21 | jelly | openvz, aye. Or Virtuozzo. |
| 15:52.39 | aarkerio | so I don't know anything about virtualizing but apt-get said my kernel is too old to install udev package |
| 15:52.45 | wols_ | aarkerio: go to your hoster or #redhat or such for help. thank you |
| 15:52.59 | jelly | aarkerio: so don't use udev. Why do you need it? |
| 15:53.08 | wols_ | aarkerio: you don't run debian so you're wrong here |
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| 15:53.23 | jelly | wols_: uh... don't rush. His VPS may be Debian. |
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| 15:53.43 | aarkerio | my system is debian |
| 15:53.46 | WormFood | petemc, that flint looks pretty cool, I've never seen it before |
| 15:54.00 | OpenTokix | aarkerio: Question at hand is, why do you need udev? |
| 15:54.01 | aarkerio | I am using debian since 1997 |
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| 15:54.32 | jelly | aarkerio: long story short, you _can't_ upgrade the kernel on a VPS on openvz. Why do you want that? |
| 15:54.53 | WormFood | I had debian in 1997, but didn't actually use it. (tried installing it once back then) |
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| 15:55.23 | wols_ | jelly: cause the squeeze upgrade wants it. there is a scary message like this when udev upgrades |
| 15:55.25 | uwjweq | I had Windows 3.11 in 97. |
| 15:55.43 | aarkerio | is OK I just get some messages saying my kernel is old is just my first time with a virtualized system |
| 15:55.44 | WormFood | uwjweq, nasty! |
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| 15:55.51 | WormFood | cringes at the thought of windows |
| 15:56.11 | jelly | wols_: I don't see that scary message in anything aarkerio wrote so far, did they change nicks? |
| 15:56.27 | uwjweq | WormFood: It ran minesweeper. |
| 15:56.36 | jelly | aarkerio: when do you get those messages? |
| 15:56.37 | aarkerio | well, thx guys! |
| 15:56.45 | jelly | oh well |
| 15:56.48 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:56.54 | wols_ | is what he said |
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| 15:57.50 | uwjweq | wols_: Make an update if you can´t then you can use udev. Pretty easy to understand. |
| 15:58.00 | uwjweq | can not I mean |
| 15:58.21 | jelly | aarkerio: ask your provider if they support testing/unstable debian at all. |
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| 15:58.59 | jelly | who needs udev anyway |
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| 16:07.00 | krion | i've read here a apt or dpkg command who explain why this dependancy would be installed (which package is responsable for it) |
| 16:07.07 | krion | can manage to remember |
| 16:07.58 | wols_ | krion: apt-cache depends |
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| 16:09.21 | sassyn | hi all |
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| 16:09.40 | sassyn | does someone knows when version 6 will be out? or a RC mode? |
| 16:10.33 | wols_ | sassyn: !wir !siyh |
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| 16:12.11 | sassyn | wols_, ? |
| 16:12.19 | sassyn | wols_, what do u mean? |
| 16:12.35 | wols_ | sassyn: /msg dpkg wir /msg dpkg siyh |
| 16:13.40 | sassyn | wols_, OK I see - I want to help |
| 16:13.47 | sassyn | But what is the status? |
| 16:13.58 | wols_ | see the links there |
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| 16:17.42 | bassliner | so what's a good way to determine the package a specific perl module, say Foo::BAR is in, in debian? thanks for your replies. |
| 16:18.34 | \amethyst | bassliner: usually it would be libfoo-bar-perl |
| 16:18.37 | petemc | bassliner: apt-cache search libfoo bar |
| 16:18.47 | \amethyst | bassliner: unless it's part of a bigger package like bioperl |
| 16:19.10 | \amethyst | bassliner: if you have dlocate installed, dlocate -S Foo/BAR.pm |
| 16:19.24 | \amethyst | bassliner: oh, wait, that only works on packages you have installed |
| 16:19.32 | bassliner | in my specific case it's XML::Entities and i get 3 matches when i do apt-cache search perl | grep -i entities |
| 16:19.39 | razorx | how do i make my usb stick automounted on /mnt/hd when den box boots? |
| 16:19.42 | bassliner | \amethyst: thank you |
| 16:19.46 | razorx | the* |
| 16:19.58 | \amethyst | bassliner: apt-file search Bio/SeqIO.pm for e.g. Bio::SeqIO |
| 16:20.29 | krion | wols_: iirc it was something whit why in it |
| 16:20.36 | bassliner | amphi: that's EXACTLY what i was searching for. thanks a lot. |
| 16:20.43 | bassliner | *\amethyst |
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| 16:21.13 | \amethyst | don't worry, I get called amphi in this channel all the time :) |
| 16:21.26 | bassliner | lol :) |
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| 16:21.49 | \amethyst | IRC clients differ greatly in when they're willing to tab-complete my nick |
| 16:22.02 | \amethyst | if at all |
| 16:22.15 | bassliner | \amethyst: i think irssi only matches if there is no other match at all starting with the pattern you wish to complete with tab. |
| 16:22.23 | petemc | what does the slash denote, anyway? |
| 16:22.31 | bassliner | it escapes him from reality. |
| 16:22.36 | petemc | :) |
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| 16:23.35 | \amethyst | petemc: a lambda, or a LaTeX command, or half of the \a escape sequence for an ASCII BEL |
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| 16:23.57 | petemc | ah |
| 16:24.08 | petemc | 'course.. |
| 16:24.11 | \amethyst | or maybe taking a reference to the return value of the Perl sub amethyst {...} :) |
| 16:24.32 | petemc | dont pigeonhole yourself :) |
| 16:24.49 | \amethyst | or maybe à or à |
| 16:25.05 | \amethyst | or ¥ even |
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| 16:27.04 | bassliner | i think \amethyst had a fight with some irc client developers requesting a nick completion feature that even completes with special signs as the first character and this is the result since the developers of the specific irc client are in #debian too. |
| 16:27.16 | \amethyst | heh |
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| 16:27.39 | bassliner | scnr :) |
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| 16:28.42 | krion | i don't get why dist-upgrade from etch to lenny would install mysql-server as it's not installed on the running configuration |
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| 16:29.09 | abrotman | krion: aptitude why foo |
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| 16:29.34 | krion | haa, that's why i was looking for, thanks abrotman |
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| 16:30.43 | tjingboem | i installed debian on an USB hard disk but this will not work will it? |
| 16:30.46 | krion | that's mediawiki1.7 FYI |
| 16:30.49 | DanDare | Hello. What command can I use to list all installed packages in a system ? |
| 16:30.53 | Arrowmaster | krion: im betting because of kde |
| 16:31.08 | krion | debianite: aptitude --get-selections or dpkg -l |
| 16:31.20 | krion | Arrowmaster: wrong ;) |
| 16:31.23 | Arrowmaster | bah |
| 16:31.38 | krion | DanDare: aptitude --get-selections or dpkg -l |
| 16:31.40 | unkmar | tjingboem: sure. As long as the system will boot to it. |
| 16:32.01 | DanDare | krio, aptitude will list packages installed with apt-get ? |
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| 16:32.08 | krion | apt-get --get-selections better |
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| 16:32.16 | phorce1 | irssi matches \amethyst fine if I start with \[TAB] ---- \amethyst is the only one in here starting with '\' --- for other matches irssi cycles through them with each [TAB] (hit a[TAB][TAB][TAB] to see the effect) |
| 16:32.17 | DanDare | thanks krion |
| 16:32.34 | krion | DanDare: it depends if you just want to know or if you want to clone system |
| 16:32.43 | tjingboem | unkmar, maybe i can try to set the BIOS to it |
| 16:32.46 | unkmar | tjingboem: will the system boot off of the USB drive or will you need a seperate drive for handling the boot stuff such as grub or lilo to direct it to the USB drive? |
| 16:32.48 | DanDare | krion, clone the system |
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| 16:33.10 | DanDare | will try install the huge list on a virtual machine to see if everything goes OK |
| 16:33.12 | unkmar | tjingboem: how new/old is the system? |
| 16:33.18 | krion | DanDare: so use apt-get --get-selections > selections.txt and then apt-get --set-selections < selections.txt on other end |
| 16:33.22 | tjingboem | not too old |
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| 16:33.37 | DanDare | very thanks krio, will try this way |
| 16:33.55 | uwjweq | unkmar: Be sure it has its MBR written. |
| 16:34.00 | tjingboem | but the USB disk remains silent when grub2 is activated |
| 16:34.50 | tjingboem | the disk does not start after the grub command |
| 16:35.06 | DanDare | krion, 'atp-get --get-selections' return me "E: Command line option --get-selections is not understood" |
| 16:35.13 | uwjweq | tjingboem: Is grub getting started from the device? |
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| 16:35.42 | tjingboem | no from internal disk with M$ and Ubuntu |
| 16:36.23 | tjingboem | there was no boot command created so in Ubuntu i used update-grub |
| 16:36.23 | nkuttler | DanDare: actually, that should return a command not found.. and use dpkg |
| 16:36.25 | DanDare | krion, 'dpkg --get-selection' works |
| 16:36.27 | uwjweq | tjingboem: Then add USB to the boot devices before HDD and CD etc. and make sure you have writtena MBR to the device. |
| 16:36.32 | tjingboem | it found the disk |
| 16:37.23 | tjingboem | right, i will try that. thanks folks :) |
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| 16:38.13 | chut | hi people, what version of libpng debian stable is using now? |
| 16:38.28 | abrotman | chut: packages.debian.org/libpng |
| 16:38.37 | chut | thanks abrotman |
| 16:39.19 | krion | DanDare: yes, you got it right sorry for the trouble |
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| 16:40.16 | \flo | hi |
| 16:40.36 | DanDare | krion, hey no problem at all... thanks for the help |
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| 16:41.57 | DanDare | anyway, with the list in hands i just use dpkg to install the packages on the other system ? |
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| 16:43.20 | kjs | hum my aptitude is not finding any sane results for kernel-source |
| 16:43.23 | kjs | any ideas? |
| 16:43.50 | kjs | http://fpaste.org/1I9r/ |
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| 16:45.10 | \flo | what package contains the glxgears and glxinfo programs? |
| 16:46.07 | cahoot | kjs: looking for linux-sorce? |
| 16:46.11 | DanDare | \flo: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=glxgears&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=stable&arch=i386 |
| 16:46.11 | cahoot | source |
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| 16:46.47 | kjs | cahoot: damn it, yes i was |
| 16:46.53 | DanDare | \flo, better: http://packages.debian.org/search?mode=filename&suite=lenny§ion=all&arch=i386&searchon=contents&keywords=glxgears |
| 16:47.04 | RichiH | suggestions for professional data recovery companies? |
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| 16:47.20 | \flo | thank you =) |
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| 16:47.37 | \flo | how would i find that out with aptitude, or any cmdline program? |
| 16:47.44 | cahoot | RichiH: Danger should have a good list now |
| 16:47.47 | \flo | or some graphic package manager? |
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| 16:48.25 | DanDare | \flo, you mean to install the package ? |
| 16:48.44 | \flo | no, to find that information without the debian website |
| 16:48.57 | DanDare | \flo, try 'apt-cache search glxgears' |
| 16:49.04 | \flo | ah, thanks :D |
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| 16:50.56 | \flo | yay =)... maybe you already know, but debian is great... the first distro that installed and just worked on that machine ;) |
| 16:52.55 | \flo | what's the easiest way (grandma-proof) to switch (automatically) between the LAN and the WLAN? |
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| 16:53.22 | \flo | whenever LAN is availible, use LAN, if not, search for my home WLAN net, if not there, give me a list |
| 16:53.47 | \flo | i heard about networkmanager, wicd... are they good? or is there a better solution? |
| 16:53.50 | p3rror | hello |
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| 16:54.11 | p3rror | is there any way to recover data from a Seagate HD undetectable |
| 16:54.12 | stack_underflow | \flo, i use wicd, i find it better for connecting to wireless networks |
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| 16:54.24 | \flo | stack_underflow, and where do i get it? |
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| 16:54.37 | \flo | i just tried install it via apt-get, but it says it doesn't find it |
| 16:54.45 | stack_underflow | \flo, i'm pretty sure i had to add backports to my sources.list |
| 16:54.45 | Josh`` | Removing the nvidia-kernel package did not remove a stale symlink from /usr/lib, I can remove the stale symlink and recreate it manually, but next reboot, it shows up stale again.. What am I forgetting? |
| 16:54.54 | DanDare | p3rror, drive spins ? |
| 16:55.07 | \flo | stack_underflow, once added, is that grandma-proof then ;)? |
| 16:55.19 | \flo | i can setup the machine now, but then it has to run. forever ;) |
| 16:55.45 | stack_underflow | yup, then just do aptitude update, and then aptitude install wicd |
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| 16:56.12 | stack_underflow | \flo, are you running lenny? |
| 16:56.14 | DanDare | \flo, maybe it´s trying to get IP by DHCP, not finding one so system will hang on thi a bit |
| 16:56.25 | RichiH | cahoot: "danger" is not easy to goole with |
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| 16:56.41 | \flo | stack_underflow, yeah, lenny |
| 16:56.47 | p3rror | DanDare, no |
| 16:57.02 | stack_underflow | \flo, ya then it's backported, do you know how to add backports? |
| 16:57.08 | p3rror | DanDare, it did before with some noise |
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| 16:57.22 | p3rror | DanDare, when i attached as secondary it not |
| 16:57.38 | p3rror | DanDare, and the os can not detect it any way |
| 16:57.39 | cahoot | RichiH: sorry - it was an ironic allusion to the company that messed up some mobile phone data a few months ago |
| 16:57.40 | DanDare | p3rror, im not expert but a good try is to find a HD of same model and change the logic border |
| 16:57.46 | \flo | well, actually not, but i found a site that told me to add a deb ... line into /etc/apt/sources.list. and it seems to work ;) |
| 16:57.47 | DanDare | *board |
| 16:57.54 | RichiH | cahoot: ah |
| 16:57.57 | \flo | however, apt complains about GPG errors |
| 16:58.06 | RichiH | funny (if you know the context) but not helpful ;) |
| 16:58.10 | DanDare | p3rror, anyway a good try to test the drive in another computer |
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| 16:58.20 | abrotman | !tell stack_underflow about bpo |
| 16:58.52 | stack_underflow | \flo, http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions follow these instructions, i had the same GPG errors |
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| 16:59.06 | DanDare | p3rror, i got some knightmare like this before, today i have 2 drives, one mirror of other with backups |
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| 17:00.04 | stack_underflow | has anybody here used the awesome window manager? is it like a replacement for gnome? (because i'm pretty sure gnome is classified as a desktop environment, is there a difference?) |
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| 17:01.21 | maligor | a wm is only a part of a 'desktop environment' |
| 17:02.27 | uwjweq | stack_underflow: If it has a cursor that blinks I´d say it qualifies. |
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| 17:02.57 | stack_underflow | maligor, so would awesome replace nautilus on a gnome install? |
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| 17:03.15 | maligor | no, nautilus is a file manager |
| 17:03.26 | maligor | the window manager in gnome is metacity |
| 17:03.37 | p3rror | is there any HDD Repairer (Seagate) in the globe under linux |
| 17:03.39 | p3rror | :( |
| 17:03.45 | maligor | I think awesome is meant to work standalone tho |
| 17:04.04 | p3rror | for wins i see lot here http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/Best/hdd-data-rescue.html |
| 17:04.09 | uwjweq | maligor: It needs xorg or equivalent though. |
| 17:04.12 | p3rror | :\ |
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| 17:04.37 | stack_underflow | p3rror, what's wrong with your hard drive? |
| 17:04.57 | p3rror | stack_underflow, my laptop won't boot |
| 17:05.03 | unkmar | p3rror: Just guessing, 80Gb 7200 RPM Barracuda? |
| 17:05.20 | p3rror | stack_underflow, and the HDD is undetectable |
| 17:05.47 | stack_underflow | p3rror, so a livecd won't detect it? |
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| 17:05.59 | uwjweq | p3rror: If you can not detect it you can not repair it. |
| 17:06.02 | petemc | p3rror: standard operating procedure is to take the disk out, put it somewhere cool and try to retrieve the data via a caddy |
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| 17:06.12 | uwjweq | p3rror: For everything else there is fscheck |
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| 17:06.43 | p3rror | and what about firmware problem |
| 17:06.49 | petemc | what firmware problem? |
| 17:06.56 | unkmar | p3rror: I would call ... crud my memory just lapsed. |
| 17:07.08 | petemc | ontrack |
| 17:07.14 | p3rror | i don't know, may be it is |
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| 17:07.38 | unkmar | p3rror: OnTrack and ask if they can do a raw copy of the data. |
| 17:07.57 | unkmar | p3rror: a raw copy of the partitions. |
| 17:08.03 | p3rror | unkmar, OnTrack ? |
| 17:08.05 | petemc | p3rror: if you're just guessing its a firmware error, its probably not, hard disks have moving parts and break quite often |
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| 17:08.52 | unkmar | p3rror: yes, the company ontrack. They are very pricey. but are suppose to be one of the best. |
| 17:09.04 | p3rror | ah yes |
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| 17:10.28 | Nalle_ | So, I was wondering if someone could help me to fix a problem I'm having with my USB disappearing when ever I try to use anything newer than 2.6.18 kernel oin Debian/PPC running on an old G3 Mac... |
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| 17:13.02 | Nalle_ | I guess it has something to do with failing to init the card as thats what I'm getting into dmesg but I'm clueless as to why this happens. The same thing happens, if I add a 100M NIC to the machine. Again, I loose the USB card. Perhaps something to do with interrupts? |
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| 17:13.48 | \flo | i saw many sites that discouraged automatic updates... |
| 17:14.09 | \flo | however, this machine is for my grandma that just wants to surf in the web... should i setup automatic updates? |
| 17:14.17 | \flo | or should i not update it? |
| 17:14.26 | petemc | \flo: debian stable? |
| 17:14.31 | \flo | yeah. lenny |
| 17:14.37 | petemc | should be fine |
| 17:14.44 | \flo | ok, thanks :) |
| 17:14.45 | karlpinc | \flo: I automaticlly update. But I have my own script (you can have if you like). It does not update anything on hold. |
| 17:14.56 | karlpinc | \flo: Also, I only update from security.debian.org. |
| 17:15.07 | \flo | karlpinc, what's that server? |
| 17:15.18 | karlpinc | \flo: That's where security updates come from. |
| 17:15.22 | \flo | ah =) |
| 17:15.31 | \flo | yeah, that's the other thing i wanted to ask ;) |
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| 17:15.41 | \flo | i only want security updates. never change a running system ;) |
| 17:16.10 | karlpinc | \flo: I found cron-apt does not do what I want. YMMV. |
| 17:16.15 | \flo | so, how do i set this up? however, i'd like to install the most recent software if i do aptitude install <foo> manually |
| 17:16.41 | karlpinc | \flo: Security updates do update a running system.... That's why I put things like the kernel and glibc on hold. |
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| 17:16.52 | karlpinc | \flo: That's the point of my script. Let me paste it somewhere.... |
| 17:17.12 | karlpinc | \flo: (to just update security automatically) |
| 17:17.56 | \flo | i want it to download security updates whenever available. however, i do not want that unneeded updates are installed, because often they crash my system (and crashing my grandmas system would be fatal. 2 hours driving time) |
| 17:18.07 | \flo | karlpinc, yeah, please paste it somewhere ;) |
| 17:21.12 | karlpinc | \flo: http://pastebin.ca/1797381 |
| 17:21.50 | karlpinc | \flo: Works for me. YMMV. |
| 17:22.00 | karlpinc | Maybe I should put it on the debian wiki? |
| 17:22.12 | \flo | karlpinc, thanks ;) i'll try to understand it ;) |
| 17:22.49 | karlpinc | \flo: Anything you don't want updated, put on hold with "aptitude hold foo". |
| 17:22.58 | abrotman | so wait .. you put things on hold to make sure they don't get updated for security reasons ? |
| 17:23.08 | karlpinc | \flo: (And then unhold when you want it updated.) |
| 17:23.31 | karlpinc | abrotman: Yes. No point in updating things like the kernel, which won't take effect until reboot anyway. |
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| 17:23.39 | abrotman | karlpinc: you could just reboot :) |
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| 17:23.55 | karlpinc | abrotman: Righto. :-) When I'm good and ready. |
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| 17:24.14 | abrotman | karlpinc: don't you just yell out the office door "REBOOT!"? :) |
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| 17:24.25 | \flo | well, in that case i need kernel updates |
| 17:24.47 | \flo | as my grandma shuts down the PC and reboots the next day, this will take place ;) |
| 17:24.54 | stonedslacker | Anyone here familiar with barry, the blackberry toolkit? |
| 17:24.59 | \flo | or doesn't debian update grub's entries automatically? |
| 17:25.00 | karlpinc | \flo: Me too. But I install them manually. |
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| 17:25.09 | \flo | my grandma doesn't ;) |
| 17:25.22 | karlpinc | \flo: Yup. It works. |
| 17:25.32 | karlpinc | \flo: But you could, remotely. |
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| 17:26.08 | wols_ | \flo: is your grandma running testing or unstable? |
| 17:26.21 | \flo | argh, no ;) i'm her grandson, not her personal support assistant xD |
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| 17:26.26 | \flo | wols_, stable. |
| 17:26.31 | karlpinc | \flo: I setup openvpn so that whenever the box is up it connects back to me, no matter if the remote IP changes. (You can do this with no encryption if you like.) Of course, the remote box has to be able to reach you. So you need a decent ISP with a static IP, or fuss with dynamic dns. |
| 17:26.31 | \flo | lenny |
| 17:27.22 | karlpinc | \flo: Then I can run xllvnc for remote support (vis ssh tunnel) or whatever. And do manual updates and poke around and such. |
| 17:27.44 | karlpinc | s/vis/via/ |
| 17:27.53 | \flo | well... i think i'll ask that here again if my grandma encounters a serious problem ;) |
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| 17:28.03 | \flo | but i don't think debian will crash ;) |
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| 17:29.16 | pickcoder | strangles samba |
| 17:29.42 | Joelio | Hi all, since upgrading to Lenny, I'm getting some port 25 timeout on our mail servers. It seems like there is only half a connection made, with the first syn being recieved, but not getting a reply. If I roll back to the etch kernel then everything is fine, which indicates it's a kernel issue somewhere along the line |
| 17:29.54 | Joelio | Just tried the new kernel and that's stil doing it |
| 17:29.57 | Joelio | any ideas? |
| 17:30.04 | mino | another useless kernel panic ... i love the kernel devs sense of humor ... |
| 17:30.06 | mino | Feb 15 13:01:37 machine kernel: BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 00100104 |
| 17:30.06 | mino | Feb 15 13:01:37 machine kernel: Oops: 0002 [#1] |
| 17:30.07 | ajcc | do I have to set the PKG_CONFIG_PATH env.var. by hand or is there a way to get pkg-config to do it? |
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| 17:32.01 | stonedslacker | Could anyone suggest a channel where I might have better luck? Or maybe a link to good docs? I built the package that was on the debian web |
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| 17:32.44 | stonedslacker | whoops, didnt mean to hit enter yet |
| 17:33.25 | mino | stonedslacker: a tip: dont use meta questions and you probably get some help :) |
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| 17:33.37 | stonedslacker | What's a meta question? |
| 17:34.01 | karlpinc | Joelio: I don't suppose it is a 2MSL problem? (Twice the maximum segment lifetime, see std5/rfc791.) |
| 17:34.01 | ajcc | asking a question about asking a question |
| 17:34.06 | pickcoder | any ideas as to why a samda user/pass would all of sudden stop working from a windoze box? |
| 17:34.31 | pickcoder | the WINS server croaked, but it's been restarted. I've reset the password for testing and nothing I try will let me access the share |
| 17:34.33 | charzero | pickcoder: Windows box was joined to a domain and is sending the domain with the user? |
| 17:34.34 | abrotman | stonedslacker: as in "Hi, I'm trying to use barry (5.24.5.2) and when I do __________, it should ________, but it _____________" |
| 17:34.38 | Joelio | karlpinc@: any url to this please? I'm not overly sure at this stage |
| 17:34.45 | pickcoder | I'm not using domains |
| 17:34.59 | karlpinc | Joelio: http://www.rfc-editor.org/cgi-bin/rfcdoctype.pl?loc=STD&letsgo=5&type=http&file_format=txt |
| 17:35.01 | pickcoder | I'm using the WINS server for name propegation |
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| 17:35.43 | pickcoder | there are no noteworthy errors for today in the 100+ samba logs |
| 17:35.50 | stonedslacker | abrotman: Gotcha. Lemme put that together |
| 17:35.53 | pickcoder | (after I fixed the name binding issue) |
| 17:36.02 | abrotman | stonedslacker: which version of debian are you using? |
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| 17:36.24 | abrotman | stonedslacker: or well, which version of "barry" (dpkg -l barry) |
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| 17:36.35 | stonedslacker | Lenny, the package is in question is not available for lenny, this one http://packages.debian.org/source/squeeze/barry |
| 17:36.41 | karlpinc | pickcoder: If it's an auth problem wouldn't it be in the auth logs? |
| 17:36.43 | pickcoder | charzero: this was working 2 days ago |
| 17:36.55 | Joelio | karlpinc: It may be worthwhile knowing that under a lower load the service is fine, it's only as the boxes become a bit more loaded that the issue is exhibited |
| 17:37.15 | stonedslacker | 0.15.0 for the barry version, the one in the link I posted. |
| 17:37.15 | Joelio | This is with different hardware too.. :( |
| 17:37.15 | pickcoder | karlpinc: possibly, but I'm not sure I can keep up with the auth logs on this box |
| 17:37.24 | pickcoder | I'll try using 'more' |
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| 17:37.55 | karlpinc | Joelio: You're running the server on debian? |
| 17:38.22 | stonedslacker | I didnt have any 'error' messages while building but when I tried to run it I get 'cannot open shared libraries;' |
| 17:38.24 | Joelio | karlpinc: Yes, it was originally etch, dist-upgraded last week, seeing issues on different hardware too |
| 17:38.31 | karlpinc | Joelio: So you get the syn but never send an ack? |
| 17:38.42 | Joelio | karlpinc: yes, accroding to the trace |
| 17:39.03 | abrotman | stonedslacker: did you follow the 'ssb' method ? |
| 17:39.18 | abrotman | !tell stonedslacker about ssb |
| 17:39.28 | stonedslacker | I may be trying to start it wrong as well. I tried just typing the names of some of the executables that I could read from the output from make install. |
| 17:39.31 | Joelio | karlpinc: thought it may be to do with syn cookies or window sliding, but there's been no changes in /proc from what I can see |
| 17:39.35 | stonedslacker | ssb? |
| 17:39.36 | wildc4rd | evenin' all |
| 17:39.44 | abrotman | stonedslacker: see what the bot told you |
| 17:39.55 | pickcoder | no errors in auth.log |
| 17:40.04 | karlpinc | Joelio: So, is the srcip:srcport:dstip:dstport tuple repeated from a previous connection? Do you know what sort of box the client is? |
| 17:40.22 | stonedslacker | which is the bot? |
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| 17:40.59 | pickcoder | this is really a pita.. It's not like I changed anything.. |
| 17:41.16 | pickcoder | everytime part of the circle of samba goes out the whole thing blows up |
| 17:41.18 | karlpinc | Joelio: Did you check out the release notes for lenny? It says something about some tcp issue or another, maybe ecn (??). |
| 17:41.22 | Joelio | karlpinc: the 'clients' are our monitroing system (debian) and several macs and ubuntu boxes.. our customers may well see it too presumably, but I rolled to the older kernel as I didn't want to cause disruption to servicce |
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| 17:41.54 | \flo | karlpinc, when i simply run your script, it will download all security updates availible, right? |
| 17:41.57 | abrotman | stonedslacker: dpkg |
| 17:41.58 | Joelio | karlpinc: not that I've seen.. I sent a mail to debian-isp too but heard nothing back |
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| 17:42.09 | karlpinc | Joelio: May want to file a bug.... |
| 17:42.19 | abrotman | Joelio: are you using iptables on that server? |
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| 17:42.27 | karlpinc | \flo: yes. |
| 17:42.29 | Joelio | karlpinc: beginning to wonder if our load balancer is fragmenting packets in some way that's causing lenny issues |
| 17:42.32 | abrotman | Joelio: also, have you tried a different network card? |
| 17:42.34 | \flo | cool =) |
| 17:42.35 | stonedslacker | No packages found matching barry. lol |
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| 17:42.49 | \flo | erm, as the machine doesn't run all the time, which cron-alternatives should i use? |
| 17:42.54 | \flo | anacron or fcron? |
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| 17:43.00 | karlpinc | \flo: anacron |
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| 17:43.04 | abrotman | stonedslacker: with you attempting to backport it? put your sources.list in a pastebin |
| 17:43.10 | \flo | why not fcron ;)? |
| 17:43.16 | abrotman | anacron is likely already installed |
| 17:43.35 | karlpinc | \flo: That was reflex. I have no option, other than anacron seems to be what I've noticed is installed without my paying attention. |
| 17:43.39 | Joelio | abrotman: Yes e1000 (which I saw a bug fix in new kernel for, but no joy when I tried) and bnx2. I'm using iptables, yes.. with the ipt_conntrack module |
| 17:43.54 | \flo | okay... ;) |
| 17:44.03 | Joelio | hmm... maybe conntrack might be the issue? |
| 17:44.07 | karlpinc | s/option/opinion/ |
| 17:44.13 | stonedslacker | Here is what I used http://packages.debian.org/source/squeeze/barry , I used syanptic to install all those. What is the command you would like me to pastebin? |
| 17:44.24 | \flo | do i have to "activate" anacron first, or is it running already? |
| 17:44.30 | abrotman | stonedslacker: cat /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 17:45.31 | bolt | in /etc/ssh/sshrc, when no forced command is specified, is the remote command available in a variable? say I do "ssh bolt@foohost 'echo foo'", can I get that command in the sshrc? I tried $SSH_COMMAND, $SSH_ORIGINAL_COMMAND, $COMMAND and a few others, but couldn't find it. |
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| 17:45.54 | stonedslacker | http://pastebin.com/m17d3b10e |
| 17:46.12 | stonedslacker | I'm new to Debian, sorry |
| 17:46.21 | abrotman | stonedslacker: okay .. see what the bot told you about 'ssb' .. you're missing a source that you need |
| 17:46.42 | haq | hello |
| 17:46.48 | karlpinc | \flo: It's probably on. |
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| 17:47.09 | haq | did anyone installed linuxdcpp v 2.x? |
| 17:47.19 | haq | becouse i have a problem with installing it |
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| 17:47.35 | haq | and cannot find any repository with it |
| 17:47.49 | stonedslacker | I'm not sure who the bot is first of all, secondly I am brand new to repositories and such so my chance of guessing which source I'm short is pretty slim. |
| 17:48.26 | stonedslacker | Should I have squeeze? |
| 17:48.56 | karlpinc | stonedslacker: Probably not. YMMV. |
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| 17:49.35 | karlpinc | stonedslacker: The bot is a robot (i.e. program) that generates resposes from a factoid database. |
| 17:49.41 | abrotman | stonedslacker: in that /etc/apt/sources.list add this *exact* line "deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main" |
| 17:49.49 | abrotman | stonedslacker: and only that line is to be added |
| 17:50.39 | stonedslacker | I know what a bot is I just have not figured out which of you is it. |
| 17:50.46 | karlpinc | stonedslacker: it's dpkg. |
| 17:50.52 | stonedslacker | abrotman: I'm adding it right now |
| 17:51.13 | abrotman | thinks karlpinc is dpkg ... |
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| 17:51.39 | stonedslacker | I didnt see the messages from dpkg until now |
| 17:51.48 | karlpinc | wishes he knew that much |
| 17:51.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | karlpinc, ssb |
| 17:52.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | abrotman, nope |
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| 17:53.53 | pickcoder | no luck.. |
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| 17:54.42 | pickcoder | I really don't want to stick this stuff on the windoze server |
| 17:54.57 | stonedslacker | okay, I added the line. what should I do now, besides apt-get update? See which barry it offers me? |
| 17:55.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | pickcoder, try using smbclient? |
| 17:55.20 | pickcoder | I've never had an issue using smbclient |
| 17:55.22 | pickcoder | the problem is getting Windoze to auth |
| 17:55.35 | pickcoder | it worked before the winbind box died |
| 17:55.50 | pickcoder | now, no user/passwd combination will work |
| 17:56.02 | pickcoder | the guest shares work |
| 17:56.07 | karlpinc | stonedslacker: That's what you need to do to get the source so you can rebuild it for your own box. From here you follow the dpkg ssb instructions. |
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| 17:56.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | the point is... if it works with smbclient from outside, but not from your windows box, it's not a problem on the samba side |
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| 17:56.37 | pickcoder | that doesn't fix the problem |
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| 17:57.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | so you want to fix the problem without finding out what/where it is? |
| 17:57.27 | stonedslacker | well, apt-search barry only comes up with one package, something about vampies. I guess I'll take a few minutes to read and reread what dpkg says |
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| 17:57.43 | pickcoder | the files need to be available on a protected share, that's the requirement |
| 17:57.51 | pickcoder | samba seemed a bit safer, but it's obivously more of a PITA |
| 17:57.51 | stonedslacker | apt-cache search* sorry |
| 17:57.57 | karlpinc | pickcoder: You can get samba support straight from #samba, who know everything. I also find the samba wiki at samba.org helpes me poke samba with a stick until it works. |
| 17:58.11 | pickcoder | karlpinc: been there.. they're all asleep |
| 17:58.35 | pickcoder | I'm gonna have to just move the files.. people are waiting for access |
| 17:58.41 | pickcoder | I don't have time to poke at it for 3 hours |
| 17:58.57 | karlpinc | pickcoder: This sounds familiar.... |
| 17:59.37 | karlpinc | pickcoder: When you winbind you need to do some sort of "net join". And then it remembers how to "login" forever. |
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| 18:00.11 | karlpinc | pickcoder: I found the correct procedure on the samba wiki, search for winbind. (?) |
| 18:00.25 | pickcoder | I don't want it to automatically log in |
| 18:00.29 | pickcoder | it's a protected share |
| 18:00.44 | stonedslacker | abrotman-karlpinc: Thanks for the direction guys. I'm gonna get me some coffee then slowly try to understand what dpkg is trying to tell me. I will return! |
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| 18:01.10 | pickcoder | I just need the freaking auth to work like it did 2 days ago |
| 18:01.23 | pickcoder | (nothing was changed!) |
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| 18:01.35 | pickcoder | reboots his PC |
| 18:02.29 | karlpinc | He does want to automatically login, because that's what it takes to talk to the server at all. Somebody tell him when he gets back. (Samba is so.... Microsoft.) |
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| 18:04.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | do you think he'd listen? |
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| 18:05.49 | eagles0513875 | hey guys what firewall would u guys recommend? |
| 18:06.17 | wraith_ | eagles0513875: Depends on your level of expertise as well as requirement. |
| 18:06.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | one made of 17 cm red bricks |
| 18:06.36 | eagles0513875 | wraith_: right now iptables no experience but im willing to learn |
| 18:06.36 | wraith_ | eagles0513875: There's Firestarter & then there rae Iptables |
| 18:06.47 | eagles0513875 | wraith_: im nothing but command line based |
| 18:06.47 | karlpinc | eagles0513875: I find iptables to be awkward to work with directly, although normally I prefer to work under the hood. Instead I use shorewall. |
| 18:06.57 | eagles0513875 | what do you guys think of ufw |
| 18:06.59 | eagles0513875 | nufw |
| 18:07.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | we think "why would you need a firewall" |
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| 18:07.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually |
| 18:07.17 | eagles0513875 | karlpinc: thing is this is on a dedicated server in a dc and i dont have much choice as to os |
| 18:07.31 | eagles0513875 | CutMeOwnThroat: i need oen cuz one of my xen guests is being used to brute force another server |
| 18:07.50 | karlpinc | eagles0513875: You want a firewall on debian? |
| 18:07.59 | eagles0513875 | karlpinc: yes |
| 18:08.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | that sounds weird |
| 18:08.15 | eagles0513875 | debian lenny 64bit is host and lenny 32bit on guests |
| 18:08.15 | karlpinc | eagles0513875: Shorewall is a debian package. |
| 18:08.21 | eagles0513875 | O_o |
| 18:08.29 | eagles0513875 | i thought it was a whole distro |
| 18:09.18 | wols_ | what would the firewall do for you? |
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| 18:09.47 | grig | why sudo won't work to echo smth into a file owned by root? ex: sudo echo "foo" >> /etc/shadow |
| 18:10.19 | karlpinc | grig: sudo 'echo "foo" >> /etc/shadow' ;# See the difference? |
| 18:10.27 | themill | grig: because your shell is managing the >> not sudo. |
| 18:10.35 | eagles0513875 | wols_: keep those that i dont want to have access to my server out |
| 18:10.43 | eagles0513875 | and those that are allowed in in |
| 18:10.44 | grig | yup! thanks a lot! |
| 18:11.33 | wols_ | so you want a blacklist/whitelist that contains 4 billion entries? |
| 18:12.14 | Agiofws | hello |
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| 18:13.01 | Agiofws | blender 2.5 decided to remove ffmpeg from within its code but now i cant compile it .. can anyone tekll me what PACKAGE i am missing ? http://codepad.org/Yfhz2cmb |
| 18:13.54 | asaleem | I have a custom application that is refusing to start because it can't load shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6:. I do have that lib. ldconfig -v on that program, I found that I am missing /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2. I did dpkg -S on it and did not find any package. Any idea, how can I get that lib. |
| 18:14.07 | wols_ | Agiofws: http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=avformat.h&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any |
| 18:14.19 | wraith_ | Most firewalls have explicit deny, don't they? |
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| 18:15.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell asaleem -about apt-file |
| 18:15.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | asaleem, you probably want libstdc++6 |
| 18:15.35 | cobra-the-joker | Hey there guys .... can i put debian on a (256 MB ram , 64 VGA , 1200 MHZ ) machine ? |
| 18:15.45 | iceroot | cobra-the-joker: sure |
| 18:15.52 | wols_ | asaleem: that's a very old version of libstdc++. no way to recompile the custom app? |
| 18:15.54 | cobra-the-joker | iceroot , with GUI ? |
| 18:16.03 | Agiofws | wols_, Reading state information... Done |
| 18:16.03 | iceroot | cobra-the-joker: its ruuning here on 630mhz, 512mb ram, 4mb vga |
| 18:16.04 | Agiofws | libavformat-dev is already the newest version. |
| 18:16.05 | wols_ | CutMeOwnThroat: not the current debian version of it |
| 18:16.05 | Agiofws | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 318 not upgraded. |
| 18:16.10 | iceroot | cobra-the-joker: of course |
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| 18:16.19 | cobra-the-joker | thats amazing :D:D |
| 18:16.30 | wols_ | Agiofws: look at your compiler error message and the path this header is installed to. check the directories |
| 18:16.37 | iceroot | cobra-the-joker: i am using gnome here, xfce4 is also worth a look |
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| 18:16.39 | nooper | people used guis all the time before 1ghz computers came long you know |
| 18:16.42 | eagles0513875 | talk about outdated shorewall |
| 18:16.43 | eagles0513875 | :( |
| 18:16.47 | nooper | along |
| 18:17.21 | karlpinc | cobra-the-joker: I just put debian on a 180MHz PII with 48MB RAM. |
| 18:17.38 | wols_ | cobra-the-joker: depending on the programs and desktop environment you want to run, RAM can be tight, but it's doable |
| 18:17.40 | cobra-the-joker | is astonished **** |
| 18:17.43 | karlpinc | cobra-the-joker: (Don't do that. It needs more ram.) |
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| 18:18.00 | wols_ | karlpinc: you don't want to do mucht gui things on that P2 |
| 18:18.01 | amphi | cobra-the-joker: I had openbox running nicely on 32MB RAM |
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| 18:18.08 | karlpinc | cobra-the-joker: (That is, use only 48M ram and a gui desktop.) |
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| 18:18.25 | cobra-the-joker | i think i have plenty ...256 ...lol |
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| 18:18.43 | karlpinc | cobra-the-joker: More ram == more better. 256 could be ok. Just be sure to have swap. |
| 18:18.52 | cobra-the-joker | amphi , 32 MB ram ...is that a virtual machine ? |
| 18:19.46 | cobra-the-joker | karlpinc , its my old desktop actually ....and i couldnt put Fedora or ubuntu ..... so i will see if debian works well |
| 18:20.17 | cobra-the-joker | but i am using Debian as my primary OS on my primary computer now ...its far more amazing |
| 18:20.17 | SerajewelKS | what would a possible reason be that ping cannot resolve a specific hostname, but nslookup and dig both can? |
| 18:20.28 | karlpinc | cobra-the-joker: I recommend installing the bare minimum in the installer, then rebooting and installing xorg, and whatever desktop you like etc manually. |
| 18:20.53 | karlpinc | SerajewelKS: /etc/nsswitch.conf |
| 18:21.02 | Nalle_ | So, I guess there is no USB wizards around then.. |
| 18:21.06 | karme | with 32mb you don't want a "desktop" - just use a small window manager |
| 18:21.14 | wols_ | cobra-the-joker: and to disable recommends in apt |
| 18:21.19 | karlpinc | SerajewelKS: See also: getent hosts foo |
| 18:21.21 | SerajewelKS | karlpinc: hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 |
| 18:21.29 | cobra-the-joker | mmmm ...ok |
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| 18:21.52 | stonedslacker | abrotman-karlpinc: I think I can follow dpkg's instructions, so Imma try to do that but I had a general Debian question for you guys. What's the deal with the sid, squeeze, lenney and all that? I know they refer to different release stages but are those names recycled? Like if Lenny is the stable release of 5 will the stable release of 8 be called Lenny as well? |
| 18:21.53 | karlpinc | SerajewelKS: The point is that nsswitch uses other means than dns to resolve. |
| 18:21.53 | cobra-the-joker | eagles0513875 , about the outdated software .... you can get whatever new software you need from backports |
| 18:22.08 | karlpinc | !tell stonedslacker about grounding |
| 18:22.20 | eagles0513875 | cobra-the-joker: shorewall in repos is outdated on the site they are on version 4.4.5 i think and repos is 4.0 |
| 18:22.29 | karlpinc | stonedslacker: See debian.org vis releases. |
| 18:22.34 | SerajewelKS | karlpinc: of course, but if those methods fail should it not try dns too? |
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| 18:22.44 | cobra-the-joker | eagles0513875 , you have seen the backports version ? |
| 18:22.56 | eagles0513875 | cobra-the-joker: no i havent |
| 18:23.08 | eagles0513875 | sry for so many questions im used to using kubuntu which keeps fairly up to date |
| 18:23.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | stonedslacker, http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html |
| 18:23.41 | SerajewelKS | karlpinc: the nsswitch.conf manpage is none too specific on how the NOTFOUND directive works |
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| 18:24.09 | cobra-the-joker | check it ... i am sure it will be fairly updated here too ...but you shouldnt use backports more often as its not as stable .. |
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| 18:24.42 | SerajewelKS | karlpinc: because the way i'm reading it, it will try 'files' and 'mdns4_minimal' and fail if neither of those produce a result? |
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| 18:25.20 | cobra-the-joker | isnt there any social channel for debian ? |
| 18:25.44 | karlpinc | cobra-the-joker: #debian-offtopic |
| 18:26.04 | cobra-the-joker | karlpinc ...ok thanx |
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| 18:26.15 | karlpinc | SerajewelKS: I'm not sure, but that's where the answer lies. |
| 18:26.22 | SerajewelKS | karlpinc: aha, it applies to the service after it. so according to this file, it should be able to find the host, no? files fails, mdns4_minimal fails, so it tries dns? |
| 18:26.34 | stonedslacker | Nice link CutMeOwnThroat! |
| 18:26.55 | wols_ | SerajewelKS: do you really need mdns and all that jazz? |
| 18:27.23 | wols_ | hosts: files dns mdns |
| 18:27.25 | SerajewelKS | wols_: need, probably not, but i do install avahi on my linux boxen |
| 18:27.49 | SerajewelKS | wols_: i'm more curious about how a valid host is not returning a getent result, when nsswitch looks to me like it should be... |
| 18:28.19 | asaleem | wols_, that can be done but it works on others systems |
| 18:28.44 | SerajewelKS | wols_: if i replace the line with 'hosts: files dns' ping still does not work |
| 18:28.46 | asaleem | CutMeOwnThroat, I already have libstdc++6 |
| 18:28.56 | SerajewelKS | this has me utterly confused |
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| 18:30.36 | karlpinc | SerajewelKS: Hang on a sec. You can resolve but ping does not work? That means some firewall, somewhere, is blocking ping. You could try (as root) "ping -I foo", for icmp pings instead of udp pings (iirc). But it's a network issue. (Unless "ping foo" does not resolve, in which case you don't want to test with ping you want to test with "getent hosts foo".) |
| 18:30.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | asaleem, what wols_ said... seems it needs an older one than currently |
| 18:30.43 | SerajewelKS | so basically, under what condition would 'ping' with nsswitch.conf containing 'hosts: files dns' fail to resolve a host when 'nslookup' and 'dig' do |
| 18:30.55 | SerajewelKS | karlpinc: no, ping is failing to resolve the host |
| 18:31.02 | karlpinc | SerajewelKS: Maybe /etc/hosts is borked. |
| 18:31.06 | SerajewelKS | karlpinc: hence everything else is too (telnet...) |
| 18:31.22 | wols_ | asaleem: then check what those other systems use for a shared lib. ldd will tell you what the app wants, and then you check what actual file (not symlink) is used. |
| 18:31.25 | SerajewelKS | karlpinc: if by borked you mean "does not contain this host" then sure. |
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| 18:31.39 | wols_ | SerajewelKS: all hosts or only a special one? |
| 18:31.56 | karlpinc | SerajewelKS: Or /etc/resolv.conf is broken, possibly due to issues with the resolvconf package or /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf. (iirc) |
| 18:31.57 | SerajewelKS | wols_: it seems only unqualified names on my local lan |
| 18:32.17 | stonedslacker | ahh, ssbp must be simple sid backport |
| 18:32.17 | SerajewelKS | karlpinc: static ip config on this box |
| 18:32.20 | wols_ | SerajewelKS: and how do you resolve them? /etc/hosts? |
| 18:32.20 | karlpinc | SerajewelKS: Or maybe your dhcp server is serving up bogus dns servers. |
| 18:32.42 | SerajewelKS | karlpinc: no, because dig works |
| 18:32.42 | karlpinc | SerajewelKS: Is /etc/resolv.conf right (i.e. empty)? |
| 18:32.50 | stonedslacker | just ssb, sorry |
| 18:33.00 | SerajewelKS | karlpinc: remember that dig and nslookup both work. hence resolv.conf is correct. |
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| 18:33.10 | SerajewelKS | wols_: a dns server on another box knows about them |
| 18:33.28 | SerajewelKS | wols_: so i'm trying to figure out why tools like ping/telnet fail to resolve these names while nslookup and dig succeed |
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| 18:33.38 | SerajewelKS | and i tried 'hosts: dns' in nsswitch.conf and this did not work either |
| 18:34.30 | karlpinc | SerajewelKS: Wrong. dig and nslookup go straight to dns servers without looking at resolv.conf. |
| 18:34.56 | SerajewelKS | karlpinc: wrong. dig and nslookup seed their dns servers from resolv.conf |
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| 18:35.40 | SerajewelKS | karlpinc: unless i specifically override the server to use, they both use the servers in resolv.conf by default. and both display the DNS server they got the result from, which is the server in resolv.conf and is the server i want to use. |
| 18:35.40 | karlpinc | SerajewelKS: You are right and I am wrong. |
| 18:35.49 | SerajewelKS | karlpinc: :) |
| 18:36.17 | SerajewelKS | so everything checks out. resolv.conf is correct, dig and nslookup return the address i expect from the dns server i expect for the host i want to resolve. |
| 18:36.26 | SerajewelKS | and ping and telnet continue to fail to resolve the name |
| 18:36.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | I really don't see how that can happen |
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| 18:36.42 | SerajewelKS | even with 'hosts: dns' in nsswitch.conf... that's where i am right now, no clue where to diagnose this |
| 18:36.53 | SerajewelKS | CutMeOwnThroat: me either |
| 18:36.55 | Agiofws | wols_, http://codepad.org/taSLLPzU |
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| 18:37.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | SerajewelKS, perhaps if you strace ping? Or is that suid? |
| 18:37.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, it is... you can still strace it as root, though |
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| 18:37.32 | SerajewelKS | CutMeOwnThroat: sure, i can give that a shot |
| 18:37.44 | simonrvn | hosts: in nsswitch.conf indicate what source to check first. files is checking resolv.conf, dns is going straight to dns. IIRC |
| 18:37.46 | karlpinc | CutMeOwnThroat: There's that nsswitch caching daemon. I forget what it's called. Maybe it's foobar? |
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| 18:37.57 | SerajewelKS | simonrvn: doesn't 'files' check /etc/hosts? |
| 18:38.06 | simonrvn | yeh that too |
| 18:38.13 | simonrvn | oh wait |
| 18:38.18 | wols_ | Agiofws: what is this for? |
| 18:38.30 | simonrvn | checks the manual |
| 18:38.34 | SerajewelKS | simonrvn: files should not be checking resolv.conf. that's what dns does... then looks up the host with those servers. |
| 18:40.14 | Agiofws | wols_, its proving that i have libavformt but my program cant find it |
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| 18:40.14 | pickcoder | karlpinc: I've changed the sec level to share and made the share public. It works fine from smbclient but none of the windows PCs will use guest login on that machine. The other samba servers work fine as guest shares. |
| 18:40.14 | simonrvn | SerajewelKS: i think you're right |
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| 18:40.30 | simonrvn | (mis-remembered). files == /etc/hosts dns == /etc/resolv.conf etc. |
| 18:40.34 | karlpinc | SerajewelKS: I'm thinking nscd. You're not running it by any chance? |
| 18:40.50 | SerajewelKS | karlpinc: no |
| 18:40.57 | Nalle_ | Any recommendations for a fail2ban replacement as I hear it doesn't really work on new Debian's due to something to do with iptables. |
| 18:41.01 | SerajewelKS | CutMeOwnThroat: i straced it. it is in fact sending a query to the DNS server. |
| 18:41.05 | simonrvn | nscd caches lookups. nscd shouldn't be used to do host lookups. |
| 18:41.07 | wols_ | Agiofws: you have to tell your compiler to look the the right places. it won't find it automagically |
| 18:41.21 | SerajewelKS | CutMeOwnThroat: it's not logging enough info to see what the query is or what the response is. |
| 18:41.27 | shawncm217 | does anyone know of any known issues with the software repositories? i had trouble getting installed and updates aren't working. |
| 18:41.32 | Agiofws | why .. wols_ cant computers think a bit ?\ |
| 18:41.34 | simonrvn | SerajewelKS: try with dig +trace |
| 18:41.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | SerajewelKS, you can change that... -s, I think |
| 18:41.47 | karlpinc | pickcoder: Isn't there some sort of "net join" involved? (I only ever poke samba with a stick until it works, so don't rely on me for anything.) |
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| 18:42.15 | karlpinc | pickcoder: You'd only do it once, ever. Until something changes and Microsoft breaks. |
| 18:42.22 | SerajewelKS | wtf |
| 18:42.26 | SerajewelKS | CutMeOwnThroat: right, i just did |
| 18:42.29 | wols_ | Agiofws: if you can't even think, why would computers be able to? |
| 18:42.40 | SerajewelKS | ok, i found the cause of this problem |
| 18:42.47 | wols_ | !tell shawncm217 about doesn't work |
| 18:42.54 | wols_ | SerajewelKS: pray tell |
| 18:42.55 | SerajewelKS | let's say the host i am on is a.home.me.com and i am querying b.home.me.com |
| 18:43.06 | SerajewelKS | or example.com instead, to be RFC compliant |
| 18:43.20 | SerajewelKS | when i use dig b, it queries for b and gets a result for b |
| 18:43.28 | SerajewelKS | when i ping b, it queries for b.a.home.example.com |
| 18:43.28 | Agiofws | wols_, they are supposed to be smart |
| 18:43.37 | SerajewelKS | which, of course, does not exist... |
| 18:43.56 | karlpinc | SerajewelKS: Usually that would be because there's a "search a.example.com" line in resolv.conf. |
| 18:43.58 | wols_ | Agiofws: so are you. don't demand something from something else if you can't do likewise |
| 18:44.06 | SerajewelKS | karlpinc: right, seems that wound up there somehow |
| 18:44.32 | karlpinc | SerajewelKS: Thereyago. So make it "example.com" or remove it to require fqdns. |
| 18:44.35 | SerajewelKS | karlpinc: dunno how i never noticed this, the box config has not changed since install :) |
| 18:44.43 | Agiofws | i am not supposed to be something i cant be :) |
| 18:45.06 | SerajewelKS | karlpinc: so i was not completely correct when i said that resolv.conf was correct. the dns server was. :) |
| 18:45.23 | shawncm217 | wols_ i have error messages i'd be happy to provide and i looked through the index.html's, but i couldn't find an appropriate contact for software repository issues. so i came here. |
| 18:45.26 | karlpinc | SerajewelKS: Saylavie. |
| 18:45.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, that's weird - are you saying dig/host don't use the search path? |
| 18:45.47 | SerajewelKS | karlpinc: it seems that getent suffixes the search domain, while dig and nslookup query *exactly* what you tell them to |
| 18:45.51 | karlpinc | CutMeOwnThroat: dig always requires fqdns. |
| 18:45.51 | SerajewelKS | CutMeOwnThroat: ^^ |
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| 18:46.12 | wols_ | SerajewelKS: you still haven't told us what issues |
| 18:46.16 | SerajewelKS | i have my dns server set up to respond to non-qualified addresses, and qualified addresses too. so no matter what tool i use they should just work. |
| 18:46.23 | SerajewelKS | wols_: pardon? |
| 18:46.25 | wols_ | or error messages |
| 18:46.31 | wols_ | SerajewelKS: sorry. whas for shawncm217 |
| 18:46.37 | SerajewelKS | wols_: ah, ok |
| 18:46.43 | simonrvn | karlpinc: "c'est la vie" |
| 18:46.50 | karlpinc | SerajewelKS: That sounds ungood vis unqualified names. |
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| 18:47.04 | karlpinc | simonrvn: We only speak american here. ;-) |
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| 18:47.17 | simonrvn | karlpinc: says who? |
| 18:47.24 | wols_ | !fr |
| 18:47.24 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net. |
| 18:47.25 | SerajewelKS | karlpinc: perhaps. it's a home LAN so i'm not too worried about being pedantically correct, as long as it works |
| 18:47.28 | AimHere | Speak for yourself yankee peeg dog. |
| 18:47.28 | wols_ | says dpkg yo fool! |
| 18:47.32 | SerajewelKS | karlpinc: that said, i am trying to be correct as much as possible :) |
| 18:47.51 | wols_ | hmm... is there an ebonics debian channel? is is that here? |
| 18:48.15 | simonrvn | oh ffs, let it go. there's enough traffic in here as is. |
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| 18:48.47 | SerajewelKS | wols_, CutMeOwnThroat, karlpinc: thanks for the assistance. the debug tools took me full circle around my config and showed me the only thing wrong was my memory and lack of attentiveness to my configs... |
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| 18:49.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 18:49.40 | wols_ | or in a single word: PEBKAC: isn't that always how it is? *g* |
| 18:49.48 | shawncm217 | wols_ on install the installer, using ftp.us.debian.org, would hang at 'retrieving package 810 of 810.' this is the screen after selecting what packages to install. i switched mirrors and got past that. now, no matter what mirror i choose, i can't get updates. it says 'could not download all repository indexes.' |
| 18:49.56 | SerajewelKS | wols_: seems so |
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| 18:50.15 | SerajewelKS | i have encountered very few bugs in the core tools that weren't my fault |
| 18:50.19 | wols_ | shawncm217: which index is missing? |
| 18:50.21 | pickcoder | karlpinc: I'm not using domain control, so I don't need to join the domain |
| 18:50.23 | SerajewelKS | and i mean like one ever |
| 18:50.46 | pickcoder | the share security has never been a problem and I haven't had an issue with user security until today |
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| 18:50.56 | pickcoder | something is really screwy |
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| 18:51.58 | shawncm217 | wols_ I'm not sure. The detailed error is "ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/lenny/updates/main/source/Sources: Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' [IP: 149.20.20.135 21]" As you can see, where you'd expect to see a file name, it is blank. |
| 18:52.10 | chut | hi people, i just installed debian, i'm trying to set things up but how come the keyboard keeep hung up |
| 18:52.19 | SerajewelKS | but yeah i love linux for my home lan server. i would not be able to do the crap i do with windows, and certainly not half of it as easily. |
| 18:52.52 | wols_ | shawncm217: use an official debian mirror. not kernel.org |
| 18:52.56 | chut | there is a delay between 30 seconds on each characters that I type |
| 18:52.59 | chut | what's wrong? |
| 18:53.13 | wols_ | chut: check if something on your PC uses all CPU |
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| 18:53.23 | chut | i just install debian |
| 18:53.27 | chut | this is a fresh install |
| 18:53.48 | chut | let me check |
| 18:53.53 | chasing`Sol | chut, what does uptime says? |
| 18:53.56 | montyboy | chut: what release? stable/testing/unstable? |
| 18:54.08 | shawncm217 | wols_ kernel.org is what worked to get installed. Like I said, the default ftp.us.debian.org did not work. Which mirror would you suggest? |
| 18:54.09 | chut | 5.0.4 |
| 18:54.21 | chut | i downloaded amd64 package |
| 18:54.23 | wols_ | !mirrors |
| 18:54.23 | dpkg | it has been said that debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/, see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <mirror size>. |
| 18:55.42 | karlpinc | pickcoder: You know more than I do. Sorry. |
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| 18:56.05 | chut | uptime says 4 user load average 0.00 0.01 0.03 |
| 18:56.09 | chut | this is my uptime |
| 18:56.45 | ScottG | How do I go about making a vanilla kernel in Debian? In Gentoo I would emerge vanilla-sources but I don't see that package |
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| 18:57.45 | dvs | ScottG: kernel-package |
| 18:57.52 | dvs | !k-p |
| 18:57.52 | dpkg | [kernel-package] To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "aptitude install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz. You should also ask me about <make-kpkg>, <kp mantra> and <kernel build-deps>. |
| 18:58.01 | cahoot | ScottG: linux-source? |
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| 18:58.56 | ScottG | cahoot: Hm ok |
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| 18:59.26 | cahoot | ScottG: kernel.org for 'vanilla' I suppose |
| 18:59.48 | ScottG | cahoot: Vanilla isn't in the debian tree at all? |
| 18:59.54 | razorx | how do i copy multiple folders in one single command? |
| 19:00.10 | iceroot | razorx: cp -r folder1 folder2 target |
| 19:00.12 | ScottG | razorx: you need to use the -r flag |
| 19:00.14 | wols_ | ScottG: it is in a way. the patches are applied at your end locally when you compile a package yourself |
| 19:00.17 | razorx | ah ok |
| 19:00.22 | razorx | thanks |
| 19:00.24 | wols_ | the source packages are always vanilla sources plus debian patches |
| 19:00.47 | cahoot | ScottG: what's the problem with that? |
| 19:00.52 | ScottG | wols_: Yea. I would think they would let you get a straight vanilla kernel, though. |
| 19:00.58 | dvs | looks for the chocolate packages |
| 19:01.04 | ScottG | No problem really, i'd just rather have the vanilla |
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| 19:01.20 | cahoot | so get it |
| 19:01.24 | wols_ | ScottG: as I said, "they" do |
| 19:01.51 | razorx | does the -r switch also copy hidden files? |
| 19:02.05 | karlpinc | razorx: Yes. |
| 19:02.09 | razorx | ok nice |
| 19:02.38 | ScottG | wols_: Well from what I understand that you are saying, when I get the kernel I could optionally remove the patches while in menuconfig? |
| 19:03.02 | ScottG | Actually, I think I will just get the patched one for now |
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| 19:03.39 | razorx | this looks alright? cp -r /mnt/flash /NDD /mnt/hd |
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| 19:06.14 | ScottG | razorx: You should really be sure you know what you are doing before you run a command. Read the man page for cp. |
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| 19:06.57 | razorx | ScottG, yes i will |
| 19:07.09 | razorx | i dont wanna brick my box |
| 19:07.12 | razorx | :) |
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| 19:07.25 | razorx | stupid embedded system |
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| 19:09.35 | wols_ | ScottG: you don't remove patches in menuconfig |
| 19:09.36 | pickcoder | looks like Windows is causing the problem based on server name |
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| 19:10.35 | ScottG | wols_: Ok. Well I don't know much about how it all works outside of menuconfig, and even then not very well |
| 19:11.00 | gnusosa | Can anybody tell me if this a behaviour of X or KMS? |
| 19:11.12 | gnusosa | When I exit X.org to VT |
| 19:11.16 | wols_ | ScottG: every debian source packages has a big tarball inside which is the vanilla source of the package |
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| 19:11.36 | wols_ | gnusosa: what kernel version and what X video driver? |
| 19:11.41 | gnusosa | the VT are blanks. Completely black. yet I can input stuff and the computer will answer.h |
| 19:12.01 | montyboy | they are obedient like that |
| 19:12.27 | ScottG | wols_: Ah ok I rsSee what you mean |
| 19:12.38 | gnusosa | wols: Latest kernel from Debian Sid 2.6.32-trunk and lastest xorg-intel-drm driver |
| 19:12.39 | ScottG | oops see* |
| 19:12.45 | ScottG | no pun intended |
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| 19:14.12 | shawncm217 | wols_ FYI The official US mirror does not work. The Canadian one isn't in the list in the Software Sources interface. The French one works and the Great Britain one works. |
| 19:14.21 | shawncm217 | wols_ Thanks. |
| 19:14.41 | shawncm217 | Have there not been any updates since Lenny was released? |
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| 19:14.58 | dvs | shawncm217: see topic |
| 19:16.00 | karlpinc | shawncm217: Yes, but if you do "aptitude update; aptitude safe-upgrade" you'll get them. |
| 19:16.05 | wols_ | shawncm217: the US has more than one mirror even when they all show up under the same domain name. just like irc.freenode.org uses round robin |
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| 19:17.07 | shawncm217 | karlpinc I've been using apt-get or the Update UI, not aptitude. My mistake? |
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| 19:17.34 | wols_ | apt-get would work too, but aptitude is preferred for other reasons |
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| 19:18.19 | nick30a | http://w3bchat.com |
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| 19:19.41 | hoxu | !ops nick30a spamming |
| 19:19.41 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: hoxu complains about: nick30a spamming |
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| 19:20.04 | mentor | thanks |
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| 19:21.08 | gnusosa | wols_: sorry, I got back... Do you know what I mean? |
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| 19:21.47 | wols_ | I know what you mean. usually it's broken videodrivers. but what part exactly is broken I dunno |
| 19:22.11 | wols_ | intel drivers from 2010 onwards use KMS only, so no matter if it'S driver or KMS, you are stuck with it |
| 19:22.50 | gnusosa | wols_: Thanks. I thought the same. It's just weird leaving X and getting a blank screen. And, I use VT for most regular work stuff. |
| 19:23.28 | wols_ | KMS, and those intel drievrs are both new software. new software has bugs, that's the way it is |
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| 19:23.40 | chut | hi people |
| 19:23.46 | chut | how do i get nvidia driver |
| 19:24.25 | wols_ | !tell chut about nvidia |
| 19:24.33 | chlue | Hello, I am in a mailing list from lists.debian.org and the messages contain an OpenPGP signatur, but kmail only complains, that it cannot validate the signatur. How do I download the relevant public keys? |
| 19:24.33 | chut | apt-get install nvidia |
| 19:24.36 | chut | doesn't work |
| 19:24.36 | smhar | I installed debian for a friend and trying to get pidgin to work with his MSN messenger account but it keeps giving me a waiting for network connection, is something wrong with the internet settings, pidgin setting or something else? |
| 19:24.58 | chut | what is the right name wols_ , i'm using irssi with no Xwindow |
| 19:25.02 | wols_ | chut: you onvopisöy haven't read a thing about what dpkg told you |
| 19:25.15 | wols_ | the right name for what? |
| 19:25.35 | wols_ | smhar: run "pidgin -f" |
| 19:25.49 | chut | nvidia prebuilt |
| 19:25.56 | chut | !nvidia prebuilt |
| 19:26.05 | wols_ | pidgin depends on network-manager to do network connections, otherwise it doesn't work so well |
| 19:26.22 | wols_ | chut: /msg dpkg <topic> |
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| 19:30.17 | smhar | wols_, thanks, it is working |
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| 19:32.42 | naturelle | Hey |
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| 19:33.15 | naturelle | I just installed and configured my dhcp3-server but it fails to start, and there is no output to /var/log/messages |
| 19:33.30 | xand | naturelle: have you edited the file in /etc/default? |
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| 19:33.51 | naturelle | You mean /etc/default/dhcp3-server= |
| 19:33.51 | karlpinc | chut: See also volatile.debian.org for keeping up when IM protocols change. |
| 19:33.53 | naturelle | Yep |
| 19:34.11 | xand | wait, I think it uses a different log file. maybe the syslog one. |
| 19:34.15 | naturelle | It's a very simple setup, I bound it to two network interfaces and configured a simple subnet |
| 19:34.20 | karlpinc | naturelle: /var/log/daemon |
| 19:34.23 | naturelle | Ah |
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| 19:34.55 | naturelle | that log file doesn't exist |
| 19:34.58 | xand | you probably need two subnets configured if you have two interfaces enabled for it |
| 19:35.03 | xand | naturelle: syslog? |
| 19:35.31 | xand | /var/log/syslog is where my dhcp entries are |
| 19:35.59 | naturelle | Aaah |
| 19:36.00 | naturelle | found it |
| 19:36.11 | naturelle | thanks, I'm a bit new to Linux |
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| 19:36.44 | CodeNinja | does anyone know if there is a debian repo specifically for evolution only? |
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| 19:38.16 | ScottG | After I finish configuring menuconfig how do I make the .deb for the kernel? |
| 19:39.01 | dvs | ScottG: kernel-package |
| 19:39.54 | Brain | has anyone here tried debian on a netbook and can tell me how much work would be involved in maintaining the installation, and how well it performs, say compared to ubuntu netbook remix? |
| 19:40.30 | craigevil | Brain: ive had debian on my eee 701 since feb 2008, no problems, runs great |
| 19:40.37 | ScottG | dvs: Is it kernel-packageconfig? |
| 19:40.54 | dvs | ScottG: make-kpkg |
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| 19:42.33 | wols_ | !tell ScottG about kp |
| 19:43.42 | Brain | craigevil: thanks :) |
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| 19:45.21 | gnusosa | Brain: I've been running debian on a eeepc 1000HE, and worked fine. Of course Debian lenny and squeeze. Things tend to break on Sid. |
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| 19:46.10 | Amarande | and yet people run full-blown sid somehow |
| 19:46.29 | Amarande | and actually, modified sid, or what started as modified sid, is apparently the most common linux in use these days heh |
| 19:46.43 | dvs | Brain: I'm on an HP Mini right now. The only really troublesome part are the wireless drivers (Broadcom). I'm using squeeze. |
| 19:46.45 | gnusosa | I use Sid |
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| 19:47.23 | wols_ | Amarande: but that distro constantly breaks too. just as sid |
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| 19:48.02 | chut | thanks karlpinc |
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| 19:48.35 | chut | karlpinc: i dont know why everytime i type in a command in my terminal there is a delay between 20 seconds |
| 19:48.40 | chut | is this a bug or something? |
| 19:48.46 | chut | i just install debian 5.0.4 |
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| 19:48.58 | chut | i have no x window |
| 19:49.06 | gnusosa | For the most part, Sid has only broke X in my eeepc 1000HE, yet everything else works as expected. |
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| 19:50.08 | ScottG | dvs: Acording to the make-kpkg man page it should have made a package in the parent directory. However I don't see one there. |
| 19:50.30 | dvs | ScottG: that's what happens with me. |
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| 19:50.49 | dvs | ScottG: did you specify the kernel_image parameter? |
| 19:51.25 | ScottG | dvs: Oh no I didn't. Is that just going to be the name of the kernel? |
| 19:51.57 | wols_ | ScottG: what was your make-kpkg line? |
| 19:52.11 | ScottG | wols_: Just sudo make-kpkg |
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| 19:52.28 | wols_ | ScottG: then you should read the factoid dpkg sent you more carefully |
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| 19:52.48 | ScottG | wols_: oh wops, I didn't see that window sorry |
| 19:53.14 | ScottG | ah darn, closed it by accident |
| 19:53.23 | wols_ | ScottG: /msg dpkg kp |
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| 19:53.39 | ScottG | thanks |
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| 19:54.39 | TrueDD | Hi all |
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| 19:58.47 | humbolt | anybody cool with lvm and raid theory? |
| 19:58.51 | humbolt | advanced |
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| 20:00.46 | wols_ | where are very uncoll with questions that start with "anybody" |
| 20:01.05 | humbolt | I want to do something like raid10 but the raid0 part I want to do with lvm |
| 20:01.58 | humbolt | The reason being, I want to be able to extend the fs on the resulting device, when I add more disks |
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| 20:04.12 | dkr | is there really no work-in-progress version of the release notes for squeeze or is this an oversight? http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/releasenotes |
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| 20:07.12 | DogBoy | heh, when is a release a release |
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| 20:07.30 | iceroot | DogBoy: when it is released |
| 20:07.50 | DogBoy | I guess that's my point |
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| 20:10.48 | ScottG | wols_: I am still not 100% clear on 1 thing. When it says to type kernel_package in as an argument, do they mean that literally or I am suppose to type in whatever my kernel pacakge is? |
| 20:10.56 | jair | by any chance do you guys know what is the apache channel? |
| 20:11.13 | jair | they have a mess in the irc =( |
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| 20:11.42 | jair | I try to go to #apache and there is just a few people and you have to talk to a bot |
| 20:12.00 | jhutchins_lt | jair: Have you ever read the log-in message or motd for freenode? |
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| 20:12.22 | jair | I am checking now |
| 20:12.35 | jair | jhutchins_lt: it looks like I need to ask a bot |
| 20:12.59 | Agiofws | how can i tell if these libs are original debian libs on my system |
| 20:13.02 | Agiofws | avcodec, avdevice, avformat, avutil, postproc, swscale, and x264. |
| 20:13.39 | jair | jhutchins_lt: never mind I was putting http instead of httpd |
| 20:13.46 | DogBoy | jair, some channels require you to be registered and identified |
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| 20:13.47 | jair | jhutchins_lt: thank you man |
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| 20:13.55 | jair | DogBoy: got it =) |
| 20:13.57 | jair | I am there |
| 20:16.45 | karme | Agiofws: aptitude search '~i~Ounoff' should list all installed unofficial packages (but i think there was a bug) - apt-cache policy <pkgname> might help, too |
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| 20:17.05 | karme | Agiofws: dpkg-query is another useful one |
| 20:17.14 | Agiofws | ok |
| 20:17.22 | Agiofws | i am getting a compile error |
| 20:17.32 | Agiofws | i'd like you to see it ok ? |
| 20:17.48 | Agiofws | http://codepad.org/N5GQ6jpx |
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| 20:20.36 | karme | Agiofws: you try to compile blender? |
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| 20:23.10 | rcp32 | hey whats a good proxy server ? |
| 20:23.16 | rcp32 | is squid the only good one? |
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| 20:24.07 | karme | there is also squid3 |
| 20:24.39 | rcp32 | whats the diffrence? |
| 20:24.53 | karme | squid3 is a complete rewrite |
| 20:24.58 | Agiofws | karme, yes |
| 20:25.06 | rcp32 | better? |
| 20:25.18 | karme | rcp32: yes and no |
| 20:25.37 | rcp32 | i just need a simple proxy server because of my work. so i vpn to my house and use the proxy while at work. they block everything |
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| 20:25.45 | karme | rcp32: imho performance is better - but i recently had problems with it but no time to track it down (personally using squid again) |
| 20:26.29 | edwin_quijada | I need to use a monitor app which recommend me between cactis and nagios |
| 20:28.01 | rcp32 | karme |
| 20:28.05 | rcp32 | may i priv |
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| 20:28.19 | karme | rcp32: channel is ok no? |
| 20:28.31 | rcp32 | k |
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| 20:28.44 | rcp32 | i did a basic install |
| 20:28.48 | rcp32 | apt-get install |
| 20:29.01 | rcp32 | but i cant get it to work via IE |
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| 20:29.11 | rcp32 | acl localnet src 10.0.0.0/8 <-- should that be the server local ip? |
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| 20:30.10 | thrashold | Where I can read something about the status of KDE 4.4 in Debian? As a link to bugs.debian.org or something? |
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| 20:31.29 | jelly-home | thrashold: /msg dpkg kde |
| 20:31.41 | karme | rcp32: via acl you set who is allowed to use your proxy |
| 20:31.52 | rcp32 | hm |
| 20:31.56 | karme | rcp32: you want to make sure not to allow everybody to use your proxy |
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| 20:33.13 | rcp32 | well its not allowing anyone |
| 20:33.27 | karme | rcp32: oh - and there was http_acces below in the config file! |
| 20:34.10 | dkr | the lenny->squeeze factoid says, "Upgrading your kernel, rebooting then doing the safe-upgrade step might be a good plan at present." but the lenny release notes say to upgrade the kernel package separately only after the minimal upgrade process (which is aptitude safe-upgrade). any idea why the change for squeeze? |
| 20:34.13 | karme | rcp32: just re-read the comments in squid.conf |
| 20:34.25 | rcp32 | acl localhost src 127.0.0.1/32 <-0- should that be the server ip |
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| 20:34.50 | karme | rcp32: no |
| 20:34.55 | rcp32 | crap |
| 20:35.26 | karme | rcp32: how is your vpn setup / single ip? |
| 20:35.39 | karme | rcp32: just add that single ip to the localnet acl |
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| 20:35.51 | karme | rcp32: then allow http_access from localnet |
| 20:36.22 | karme | rcp32: or just introduce a vpn acl and add your ip there and allow that one |
| 20:36.49 | HackeMate | my networkmanager doesn't detects my eth but I'm using it |
| 20:36.53 | HackeMate | how can I configure this? |
| 20:37.05 | rcp32 | hmm |
| 20:37.18 | rcp32 | my vpn is 10.0.2.6 |
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| 20:37.43 | rcp32 | so |
| 20:37.47 | rcp32 | 10.0.2.0 |
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| 20:40.26 | karme | rcp32: squid accepts the typical notation for ip ranges: example 10.0.0.0/8 => 10.x.x.x |
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| 20:41.08 | SimManiac | hi |
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| 20:41.54 | karme | rcp32: if you want to allow only one ip you can use ip/32 |
| 20:42.00 | bolt | is there some neat way of running tail on two separate machines over ssh at the same time in the same console? say i want to monitor two machines' samba logs. i know this can be done in two windows or in plenty of other ways, i'm just curious |
| 20:42.36 | jelly-home | bolt: tail -f blah & ssh foo tail -f blah ? |
| 20:43.07 | jelly-home | bolt: ie. put the local tail in background |
| 20:43.09 | jhutchins_lt | jelly-home: Might that not launch the second command until the first completed? |
| 20:43.23 | dkr | note the single & |
| 20:43.27 | bolt | jhutchins_lt: && would. never used & for anything. reading up on it |
| 20:43.37 | jelly-home | jhutchins_lt: there is no (intentional) mistake in that line |
| 20:43.38 | bolt | jelly-home: thanks for the tip. i'll look into it :) |
| 20:43.39 | jhutchins_lt | Ja, trying to remember how it handles it in-line. |
| 20:43.58 | SimManiac | bolt: it just puts the command in background |
| 20:44.29 | jhutchins_lt | Isn't it necessary to have some delimiter between the & and the next command? |
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| 20:45.34 | themill | jhutchins_lt: & *is* one such command delimiter |
| 20:45.40 | jelly-home | jhutchins_lt: TIAS |
| 20:45.48 | jhutchins_lt | trying it on maillog and syslog. |
| 20:46.00 | jhutchins_lt | AS? |
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| 20:46.05 | jelly-home | !tias |
| 20:46.05 | dpkg | TIAS is "Try It And See". |
| 20:46.14 | jhutchins_lt | AH, I was thinking TIYS. |
| 20:46.26 | bolt | jhutchins_lt: locally, tail can monitor several files at once anyway. it'll even make nice headers when changing files if you want |
| 20:46.34 | bolt | jhutchins_lt: for remove machines, however, this is awesome |
| 20:46.40 | bolt | reads up on backgrounding stuff |
| 20:46.45 | jelly-home | bolt: you could sshfs and pretend all the files are local |
| 20:46.49 | dkr | the only problem is you don't know which lines are from which system. yeah, you could tail -f two files to make ti print the headers |
| 20:46.57 | rcp32 | ip/32 <-- whats the 32 for? |
| 20:46.59 | rcp32 | sorry |
| 20:47.01 | bolt | s/remove/remote |
| 20:47.04 | jelly-home | bolt: sshfs isn't really stable though |
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| 20:47.23 | SimManiac | rcp32: that's the netmask |
| 20:47.27 | bolt | jelly-home: it can be made pretty stable... i actually use it for my home directory right now |
| 20:47.42 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell rcp32 about cidr |
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| 20:47.52 | bolt | jelly-home: other than having to do some bad hacks for programs that like locking files in the home directory, everything else is quite smooth |
| 20:47.55 | SimManiac | dpkg: tell SimManiac about chicks |
| 20:48.04 | jhutchins_lt | I don't know of any network file mounting systems that don't have issues. |
| 20:48.07 | SimManiac | <dpkg> i dunno what is 'chicks'. |
| 20:48.08 | SimManiac | bah |
| 20:48.08 | jelly-home | rcp32: it's a nice short notation for ipv4 addresses and net blocks |
| 20:48.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | I just wonder.. how hard would it be to turn your laptop into an accesspoint? Is there any package in Debian that'd help doing that? |
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| 20:48.30 | rcp32 | thnks |
| 20:48.48 | pickcoder | karlpinc: funny enough, part of the problem is the improper lookup of the netbios name's IP |
| 20:48.58 | bolt | jelly-home: and the big plus side is that an encfs mounted on a server can be "shared" "transparently" through sshfs. nfs doesn't manage that feat afaik. |
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| 20:49.18 | jelly-home | bolt: you mean, encfs doesn't support nfs |
| 20:49.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | mm 'chillispot', I guess |
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| 20:49.46 | friese2 | hi |
| 20:49.52 | bolt | jelly-home: well, true, but i don't think they specifically support sshfs either. it just works another way so it happens to do the trick |
| 20:50.13 | pickcoder | I still don't know why it's resolving to the wrong IP |
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| 20:50.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, but that's just an authentication layer between AP and outside |
| 20:50.43 | friese2 | im currently using windows 7 on my laptop, i heard about problems with the battery so i want to switch. i only kknow linux from my g1 and now i want debian on my laptop |
| 20:50.58 | friese2 | is there something like freeotfe boot encryption aviable? |
| 20:50.59 | bolt | friese2: microsoft says that's a lie :P |
| 20:51.01 | jelly-home | bolt: no, I mean, filesystems _have_ to have certain properties to gain nfs support |
| 20:51.07 | friese2 | mhm |
| 20:51.15 | jelly-home | bolt: it's likely encfs is too much of a hack |
| 20:51.16 | jhutchins_lt | Well, I've at least discovered a problem with my web logs this way. |
| 20:51.18 | friese2 | i know some people who already destoryed their batterys |
| 20:51.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | eh? If you stop using windows, the laptop will not drain the battery anymore? |
| 20:51.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh |
| 20:52.01 | amphi | that's an odd reason to choose debian |
| 20:52.05 | friese2 | mhm |
| 20:52.10 | stonedslacker | abrotman or karlpinc, you guys still around? dpkg told me about the ssb but my target package doesnt show up in sid. So, when I do build-dep packagen-ame it doesnt do anything. |
| 20:52.22 | friese2 | reason 2 is that i dont like ms that much |
| 20:52.24 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: what package? |
| 20:52.26 | bolt | jelly-home: ah. didn't know that. i can't imagine encfs is that much of a hack though. sure, it grabs every read/write operation you do, but it's basically using whatever underlying filesystem you have as its base |
| 20:52.38 | friese2 | on my old laptop i used os 2, but thats egtting a bit old |
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| 20:52.42 | stonedslacker | barry or barry-util |
| 20:52.51 | jelly-home | judd: versions barry |
| 20:52.52 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'barry' was found. |
| 20:52.57 | jelly-home | judd: versions barry-util |
| 20:52.58 | judd | barry-util -- sid: 0.15-1; squeeze: 0.15-1 |
| 20:53.12 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: the latter looks as if it were present |
| 20:53.35 | friese2 | ehm another question, is gta sa running on debian? |
| 20:53.39 | jhutchins_lt | This is strange, my apache logs don't seem to be rotating correctly: http://paste.debian.net/59967/ |
| 20:53.40 | stonedslacker | squeeze is the one I tried to build earlier with no success |
| 20:54.03 | rcp32 | i cant this squid |
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| 20:54.07 | rcp32 | up at all |
| 20:54.10 | rcp32 | any other good proxys |
| 20:54.25 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: what happened exactly? Do you have the complete output of the failing command? |
| 20:55.28 | jelly-home | friese2: no, but look up Crossover Games or Cedega's compatibility with that game |
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| 20:55.38 | friese2 | mhm ok |
| 20:55.48 | resjudicata | for people new to linux, would should they read after the debian reference? |
| 20:55.56 | resjudicata | *debian gnu/linux |
| 20:56.03 | jelly-home | friese2: Debian has an old, stable release of wine that's not likely to run games well. |
| 20:56.09 | stonedslacker | jelly-home: I'm not sure how I should even start the program but after make install I picked a few of the executables that I could see were installed and I tried them from the command line and each timeI got 'unable to open shared libraries' |
| 20:56.17 | friese2 | mhm |
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| 20:56.24 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: what make install? |
| 20:56.40 | jhutchins_lt | restarted apache and it started using the new logs. |
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| 20:56.56 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: there is no "make install" in the ssb procedure... did you manage to create .deb packages or not? |
| 20:57.26 | friese2 | will debian run gta sa in the same performance as windows does? |
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| 20:58.04 | jelly-home | friese2: if there's a Linux port of that software, it might. |
| 20:58.16 | stonedslacker | jelly-home: Here is what I did http://packages.debian.org/source/squeeze/barry, it sure did allow me to make and make install |
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| 20:58.27 | rcp32 | whats another good proxy server for debian |
| 20:58.49 | friese2 | i dint thin so |
| 20:58.51 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: that page doesn't say what you did on your system? |
| 20:58.56 | krisfremen | ssh itself? |
| 20:59.04 | friese2 | its closed source and from rockstar games |
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| 20:59.59 | stonedslacker | I know but I wanted you to see the packages I was working with. Are you saying that I should have ended up with a package to install rather than my application I was hoping for? |
| 21:00.01 | jelly-home | friese2: in that case, do what I wrote before -- check Crossover Games and/or Cedega for compatibility with your game |
| 21:00.10 | friese2 | yes |
| 21:00.19 | friese2 | but will that be slower than windows? |
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| 21:00.31 | jelly-home | friese2: ask them? |
| 21:00.37 | friese2 | mhm k |
| 21:01.28 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: if you followed the ssb prcedure, you'd have ended up with a number of .deb packages to install (if everything had gone well) |
| 21:02.02 | stonedslacker | I didnt not follow it when I built that. That was done before I ever heard of ssb |
| 21:02.03 | pickcoder | great.. another e-mail stating the samba share isn't working again |
| 21:02.11 | pickcoder | gives up and sticks the files on Windoze |
| 21:02.27 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: well, do a make uninstall if you can |
| 21:02.43 | stonedslacker | Now I'm trying to do it again but like I said when I do apt-cache search barry-util I get nothing |
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| 21:03.00 | jhutchins_lt | pickcoder: Um, I've been running samba as a server for windows for about ten years. |
| 21:03.16 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: that's normal, that command only searches for binary packages present in configured repos |
| 21:03.48 | stonedslacker | make uninstall appears to be working |
| 21:04.56 | stonedslacker | ok, it's gone, I assume. As for the ssb I am the step apt-get build-dep package name, so i should put barry-util0.15-1 ?\ |
| 21:05.37 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: the package name is jsut the package name, no versions or anything else. "barry-util" |
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| 21:06.39 | rcp32 | proxy |
| 21:07.20 | stonedslacker | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/m1680c6ba |
| 21:07.43 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: ok |
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| 21:08.26 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: if you're not sure that command did what it was supposed to, check its exit status. |
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| 21:09.13 | stonedslacker | Whichcommand? The one when I tried to start one of the barry executables? |
| 21:09.36 | pickcoder | jhutchins_lt: me too.. unfortunately windows is not behaving |
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| 21:10.39 | pickcoder | somehow this one samba machine is causing problems |
| 21:10.57 | pickcoder | it's not being resolved properly by windows clients |
| 21:11.07 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: the one you just pasted for some reason! |
| 21:11.22 | pickcoder | plus windows doesn't seem to want to remember the auth info on specific client machines |
| 21:12.13 | pickcoder | I have a feeling that winbind is causing some of the problems, but I've got bigger fires to put out |
| 21:12.34 | stonedslacker | jelly-home: Does that mean I have met all dependencies? That's why I pasted it. I dont see any errors. I had to download lots of packages the first try to satisfy the build dependencies, i imagine that is still good. |
| 21:13.09 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: yes, it does (you probably ran it before, so there was nothing new to install) |
| 21:13.36 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: like I said, check the exit status if unsure |
| 21:13.37 | karme | rcp32: you didn't read the comments in the config file, did you? |
| 21:13.48 | jelly-home | there are comments? |
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| 21:14.07 | karme | rcp32: if you are really lazy just uncomment: #http_access allow localnet |
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| 21:14.22 | karme | rcp32: anyway it would be better, to at least try to understand it |
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| 21:14.46 | jhutchins_lt | My logrotate script has been doing a reload to make apache switch to the new log file, but reload doesn't appear to work, I have to use restart. |
| 21:15.07 | stonedslacker | jelly-home:I didnt run it before I just learned that apt-trick. Before I just went through the list of depends on the package website and installed one by one. How do I check the exit status? You mean that it may exit with an error yet say nothing about an error? |
| 21:15.26 | pickcoder | jhutchins_lt: using pre-rotate? |
| 21:15.34 | jhutchins_lt | postrotate |
| 21:15.38 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: yes, some commands do that. echo $? does the trick, 0 means success |
| 21:16.13 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: note that every command run changes $?, so you have to echo $? immediately after the command you want to check |
| 21:16.32 | jhutchins_lt | a possible use for && |
| 21:16.33 | stonedslacker | jelly-home: So do I append echo $? to my command or run it after the first command? |
| 21:16.44 | stonedslacker | ok |
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| 21:17.08 | stonedslacker | I get zero! |
| 21:17.46 | pickcoder | jhutchins_lt: the rotate script I have uses postrotate > /dev/null and it has always worked |
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| 21:18.11 | pickcoder | jhutchins_lt: notifempty, sharedscripts,missingok, create 640 root adm |
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| 21:18.23 | pickcoder | don't forget delaycompress too |
| 21:18.37 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: that means it worked |
| 21:18.43 | stonedslacker | jelly-home: Sorry about you being the only one can help, I know it's gotta suck messing with a newbie and trying to get me to understand |
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| 21:19.09 | stonedslacker | jelly-home; So I will move on to the next stp, brb |
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| 21:19.23 | jhutchins_lt | pickcoder: I tried using "reload" manually and it didn't pick up the new file, had to restart. |
| 21:19.40 | brady | How can a concatenate two pdf files into a single pdf? |
| 21:19.40 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: buld-dep just goes and installs any missing packages that a source package needs to compile. If you installed them manually beforehand, there's nothing left for it to do |
| 21:19.53 | jhutchins_lt | I started having this trouble a while back on a different server, it stopped picking up the new log file. |
| 21:20.41 | jhutchins_lt | brady: I don't believe PDF allows that. |
| 21:20.45 | jhutchins_lt | brady: You need the source files. |
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| 21:21.48 | brady | jhutchins, Well, I wrote them in tex, so I have the source. However, they are two different (latex) classes, so it is not easy (possible?) to convince tex to do it. |
| 21:22.00 | stonedslacker | jelly-home: 'apt-get -b source barry-utils' says 'E: Unable to find a source package for barry-utils' |
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| 21:22.10 | themill | brady: pdftk can do that for you |
| 21:22.20 | brady | themill, Wonderful, thanks. |
| 21:22.33 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: I'll leave you to find the typo by yourself |
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| 21:22.44 | stonedslacker | ahh |
| 21:22.50 | stonedslacker | util, not utils |
| 21:22.55 | Ricoshady | what is the purpose to renaming httpd to apache like debian does? not sure I get the reasoning |
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| 21:23.02 | rcp32 | can u turn off cache on squid |
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| 21:23.58 | stonedslacker | I got a little farther but not too much http://pastebin.com/m2dae1db |
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| 21:24.49 | lcb | brady, take a look at this one too ->http://www.pdfsam.org |
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| 21:27.24 | stonedslacker | jelly-home: Should I delete the previously downloaded file? Otherwise this little ssb trick seems to be doing exactly what I've already done. |
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| 21:27.51 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: that's weird. cd into the newly created source dir, run "make -f debian/rules build" ... does it fail with the same error? Is there a debian/changelog file? |
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| 21:29.28 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: debian/rules is the most important and most interesting file used in building debian packages. It's also a makefile. Often one edits it to change ./configure options |
| 21:29.45 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: also... there's a subliminal message in there. |
| 21:31.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | subliminal? You mean when you read it backwards it says "buy brittney spears CDs" or something similarly satanic? |
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| 21:31.13 | stonedslacker | There is no 'newly' created build directory but if I run that in my previously created build directory I get 'no target for make' I believe is what it said. |
| 21:31.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | scary |
| 21:31.54 | stonedslacker | make: debian/rules: No such file or directory |
| 21:31.54 | stonedslacker | make: *** No rule to make target `debian/rules'. Stop. |
| 21:32.06 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: oh, then nuke that dir and redo apt-get source foo |
| 21:32.18 | stonedslacker | ok brb |
| 21:32.25 | jelly-home | CutMeOwnThroat: debian/rules |
| 21:32.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | mmm |
| 21:32.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | I wish you hadn't said that |
| 21:33.01 | jelly-home | CutMeOwnThroat: no wonder hardly anyone leaves Debian after they find it |
| 21:33.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, you're right.. debian/rules is a makefile... I was never aware, because you can just call it like any script... because of #!/usr/bin/make -f |
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| 21:34.00 | jelly-home | if's not always executable |
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| 21:34.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | it is! |
| 21:34.10 | stonedslacker | jelly-home: Its doing a lot now |
| 21:34.19 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: yay! |
| 21:34.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, One Makefile to rule them all, One Makefile to find them, One Makefile to bring them all and in the darkness bind them? |
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| 21:35.01 | stonedslacker | I'll have to remember the lil ssb trick, pretty nifty n shit] |
| 21:35.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | at least in all packages I've ever seen... |
| 21:35.34 | stonedslacker | brb fellas |
| 21:36.12 | fat-lobyte | hello, when automounting my external ntfs hard drive, the disk is mounted as read-only. Which system (HAL oder udev) is responsible for automounting it, and how could I configure it to be mounted as read-write? |
| 21:36.29 | jelly-home | CutMeOwnThroat: note that in Ubuntu, also debian/rules |
| 21:36.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 21:36.44 | pickcoder | the backup mail server is the one causing the problems |
| 21:36.53 | jelly-home | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:37.08 | pickcoder | they have mirrored configs, different IP.. and samba is confused |
| 21:37.29 | pickcoder | now.. how to retrain all the win clients about the IP change |
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| 21:38.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, and most ubuntu users are probably not even aware of it! |
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| 21:41.16 | stonedslacker | jelly-home: Wow, still goin. Thank you for your patience! |
| 21:42.05 | stonedslacker | I may actually get the pleasure of saying ' Barry, meet Berry' tonight :D |
| 21:42.13 | bolt | fat-lobyte: there is no automounting of ntfs drives in the debian base install. you've probably installed something that does it. autofs? gnome? kde? |
| 21:42.22 | bolt | fat-lobyte: is it in your fstab? |
| 21:42.42 | lcb | hi. i have lenny basic install and i would like to mount an ext4 usb filesystem (disk). i get: "unknown filesystem 'ext4'". could you please tell me the package i need to install. |
| 21:42.58 | stonedslacker | All this nonsense started over me just looking to install a ssh client on my phone lol |
| 21:43.21 | bolt | stonedslacker: midpssh? |
| 21:43.44 | fat-lobyte | bolt: it is not in my fstab and probably gnome is mounting it. It actually used to work until i applied an update some time ago. |
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| 21:44.24 | fat-lobyte | also, the hard drive is mounted as "ntfs" and not "ntfs-3g", probably that's the reason. How can i get it mounted with ntfs-3g ? |
| 21:44.32 | bolt | fat-lobyte: i don't use gnome, so i wouldn't know where to go. perhaps ask #gnome ? or google gnome automount? |
| 21:44.44 | bolt | fat-lobyte: or you could just remount it if you want to take the manual approach |
| 21:45.10 | stonedslacker | I looked at several. My ultimate dream is to find a way to have a minimally functional bash so I can script certain tasks and maybe even add some custom functionality. I was shocked to see my os available for download free of charge. I'm gonna like this phone I do believe |
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| 21:45.44 | nooper | lcb: which kernel? |
| 21:45.52 | fat-lobyte | bolt: the manual approach works fine, it's just that I like my hard drive to be writable when I plug it in without any command line hacking. Are you sure it's a pure gnome thingy? I thought udev or hal was responsible for that. |
| 21:46.23 | stonedslacker | If I can successfully install a ssh server on the phone, then for all intents and purposes I will have a minimal bash, no? |
| 21:46.33 | lcb | nooper, 2.6 |
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| 21:46.46 | nooper | lcb: 2.6.28? |
| 21:46.52 | bolt | fat-lobyte: not entirely, no. but i have systems with ratpoison, xfce and kde, and none of them do what you describe when i plug in my ntfs usb drive |
| 21:47.16 | lcb | nooper, how can i check that?? :( sorry |
| 21:47.26 | nooper | lcb: uname -a |
| 21:47.33 | lcb | ohh ya... tks |
| 21:48.08 | lcb | nooper, 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 21:48.28 | bolt | fat-lobyte: i do know that the default ubuntu installation does automounts, and that uses gnome. probably some crazy ubuntuness that does it though. |
| 21:48.52 | stonedslacker | jelly-home: Now I got a whole bunch of .debs to install, should I worry about the order? Can I just say 'dpkg -i *.deb' ? |
| 21:49.20 | nooper | lcb: ext4 comes with 2.6.28. the latest version of lenny has it, so you just have to update it with 'aptitude update linux-image-2.6' |
| 21:49.26 | nooper | i'm not sure about the package name |
| 21:49.45 | lcb | nooper, thankk you so much! |
| 21:49.51 | nooper | np |
| 21:49.52 | fat-lobyte | fat-lobyte: about 2-3 ago ntfs-3g automounts worked perfectly well. Some update broke it, unfortunately I dont know which |
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| 21:51.41 | stonedslacker | Lettin her rip, we'll see :D |
| 21:51.42 | nooper | lcb: run 'aptitude upgrade' before running the update |
| 21:52.03 | lcb | nooper, thanks a lot |
| 21:52.04 | nooper | lcb: sorry i mixed up those commands. its 'aptitude update' and 'aptitude upgrade linux-image-2.6' |
| 21:52.26 | lcb | i realized that after the error on console :) |
| 21:52.33 | lcb | it's ok |
| 21:52.50 | stonedslacker | grrr, Istill cant figure out how tostart he damn thing |
| 21:54.02 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.31 | stonedslacker | lol, that doesnt work either |
| 21:54.42 | stonedslacker | Is it a daemon? |
| 21:54.56 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:55.04 | stonedslacker | barry |
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| 21:56.43 | adb | read his README |
| 21:57.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | stonedslacker, sshd has nothing to do with the shells you do or do not have |
| 21:57.02 | stonedslacker | ugh, this blows. I'm fairly sure everything went well but I have idea how to start it to see lol. Igood docs on this set of tools are scant at best |
| 21:57.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | "btool"? |
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| 21:58.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | tyr dpkg -S barry-util |grep /bin/ |
| 21:58.41 | jelly-home | oh, so it got build and installed? nice |
| 21:58.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | or dpkg -S barry-util |grep /man/ |
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| 21:59.09 | stonedslacker | CutMeOwnThroat: nope |
| 21:59.21 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: typically there are docs in /usr/share/doc/packagename/ |
| 21:59.30 | jelly-home | CutMeOwnThroat: you meant -L |
| 21:59.56 | stonedslacker | dpkg/grep trick returns nada |
| 21:59.58 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: he meant -L, not -S |
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| 22:00.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, seems I did... |
| 22:00.36 | stonedslacker | btool is there |
| 22:00.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | I tried -S but didn't pay too close attention... |
| 22:01.11 | stonedslacker | that works. Apparently /usr/bin is not in root's path....wtf |
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| 22:01.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | well "man btool" etc. |
| 22:01.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | stonedslacker, which is because they're not supposed to be run by root |
| 22:01.48 | jelly-home | stonedslacker: a) don't run it as root if you don't absolutely have to, b) /usr/bin should be in root's PATH |
| 22:02.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | you sure? |
| 22:02.12 | jelly-home | yes |
| 22:02.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's in my roots path... |
| 22:02.30 | stonedslacker | it is starting now, thanks a alot jelly-home, youhave made my day! I'mma go play withthis I'll be back. Thanks to all those who helped a kneegrow out, even you CutMeOwnThroat |
| 22:02.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | even me! |
| 22:02.45 | jelly-home | \o/ |
| 22:02.54 | jelly-home | !win CutMeOwnThroat |
| 22:02.54 | dpkg | Congratulations, CutMeOwnThroat! You have won the US presidency! |
| 22:02.59 | stonedslacker | EVEN |
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| 22:03.07 | jelly-home | !win stonedslacker |
| 22:03.07 | dpkg | Congratulations, stonedslacker! You have won the US presidency! |
| 22:03.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | \o/ËË (throwing confetti) |
| 22:03.14 | jelly-home | hm |
| 22:03.16 | jelly-home | !win me |
| 22:03.16 | dpkg | Congratulations, jelly-home! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
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| 22:03.38 | karme | /ô\ |
| 22:03.40 | jelly-home | great, and I stopped eating meat (or meatalike products) |
| 22:04.09 | tudon | gives jelly-home some b12 supplements |
| 22:05.09 | jelly-home | takes a sip of linen(sp?) oil instead |
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| 22:06.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, it said spam, not Spam or SPAM |
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| 22:06.42 | jelly-home | spam spam chips and spam? |
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| 22:08.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdpsfBsN_Dg |
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| 22:20.24 | runa | so, my server has 900mb of cached and it's using 900mb of swap. iostats shows the swap partition is 100% util. I would like linux to swap less and cache more. I've set swapiness to 0 but doesn't seems to change anything |
| 22:20.36 | dondelelcaro | runa: that's perfectly fine |
| 22:21.29 | runa | dondelelcaro: well, my disk is used at 100% and most io comes from the swap partition; so nothing is perfectly fine :) |
| 22:21.29 | dondelelcaro | runa: pages in memory that aren't being actively used should be swapped out in favor of using memory to cache things |
| 22:22.16 | runa | dondelelcaro: I agree with you, but I don't understand then why the swap partition is used, if there's all that memory 'free' (cached) |
| 22:22.20 | dondelelcaro | runa: if you're running with a lot of swap, and still a lot of swap i/o, you probably don't have enough main memory and/or enough swap for whatever you're trying to do |
| 22:22.36 | keith4 | runa: pastebin 'free -m' |
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| 22:23.01 | dondelelcaro | runa: because if a page isn't being actively used, its often faster to use memory to cache disk i/o than to store a page that isn't being used |
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| 22:25.11 | runa | dondelelcaro: I understand, but since swap is being read&written, I assume it's not correct to page that. |
| 22:25.14 | runa | keith4: http://pastebin.ca/1797704 |
| 22:26.34 | dondelelcaro | runa: it still may be faster |
| 22:26.58 | keith4 | wow |
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| 22:27.02 | keith4 | 100% iowait |
| 22:27.24 | runa | keith4: funky, isn't it? :) |
| 22:27.25 | keith4 | that's not all from the swapping, though |
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| 22:27.54 | keith4 | line 15 is where your trouble's coming from, no? |
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| 22:28.35 | nooper | that pastebin says your swap is less than 20% used |
| 22:28.52 | runa | keith4: no, that's my main disk. I'm ok with that / I cannot do much about it. but i would like to lower the IO of sda5 |
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| 22:29.42 | runa | I could even try to disable swap, but it's a remote server and I'm worried to end up locked outside |
| 22:29.44 | dondelelcaro | runa: run vmstat 1 30 |
| 22:30.01 | dondelelcaro | runa: but from just looking at what you're doing, you don't have enough main memory. |
| 22:30.12 | keith4 | right |
| 22:30.26 | keith4 | just looks like a busy server, to me |
| 22:30.33 | runa | dondelelcaro, keith4: I'm sure buying more memory would help, but I would like to understand what's going on first :) |
| 22:31.02 | dondelelcaro | runa: the output of vmstat 1 30; will tell you approximately what is going on |
| 22:31.30 | runa | dondelelcaro: here http://pastebin.ca/1797710 |
| 22:31.47 | karme | pidstat -r might help, too |
| 22:33.24 | runa | karme: want to see the paste from pidstat? |
| 22:33.25 | jelly-home | it's wapping all right |
| 22:33.33 | karme | runa: yes, why not |
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| 22:34.23 | jelly-home | runa: is it an i386 or an amd64 installation? What's the workload? |
| 22:34.23 | runa | karme: http://pastebin.ca/1797715 |
| 22:34.49 | runa | jelly-home: amd64; used for RoRails serving + mysqldb |
| 22:35.24 | karme | runa: try something like pidstat -r 1 30 again |
| 22:35.53 | karme | runa: or 5 2 |
| 22:36.10 | jelly-home | runa: I don't know about ruby, but 32bit perl uses a lot less ram compared to amd64. |
| 22:36.12 | CodeNinja | does anyone know if there is a debian repo specifically for evolution only? |
| 22:36.26 | runa | karme: http://pastebin.ca/1797718 |
| 22:36.33 | lcb | i realized that after the error on console :) |
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| 22:36.38 | runa | karme: ah, sorry, it ended |
| 22:36.54 | macman_ | hello all .. how can i get a list of debs that are install and then find the one that i don't want |
| 22:37.16 | runa | karme: here http://pastebin.ca/1797720 |
| 22:37.17 | CodeNinja | macman_: dpkg -l | less |
| 22:37.25 | CodeNinja | or dpkg -l | grep <package> |
| 22:38.17 | macman_ | how can i remove teh package ? |
| 22:38.27 | macman_ | ii dvd2hdd 0.2-13 |
| 22:38.52 | macman_ | -r ? |
| 22:38.56 | CodeNinja | ... |
| 22:39.07 | CodeNinja | moving on... apt-get purge <package> |
| 22:39.09 | babilen | macman_: 'man aptitude' |
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| 22:40.36 | jelly-home | CodeNinja: oh, when did apt-get gain a purge command? |
| 22:40.37 | CodeNinja | jelly-home: I dunno, I've been using it since I had debian :) |
| 22:40.37 | CodeNinja | <3 apt-* |
| 22:41.15 | jelly-home | I know only about apt-get --purge remove foo, |
| 22:41.31 | CodeNinja | jelly-home: what version of debian? |
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| 22:42.07 | karme | runa: no clear bad guy - you just need more ram? or somebody is wasting/locking ram? |
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| 22:42.28 | jelly-home | CodeNinja: the one I'm currently using, a bastard of testing/unstable/stable, has purge. |
| 22:42.34 | karme | runa: top and then M mught help - you can als show page faults in top btw |
| 22:42.36 | runa | karme: I think I just need more ram; but I wanted to avoid the expense |
| 22:42.48 | runa | karme: I've no idea what page faults are. letme google :) |
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| 22:43.13 | jelly-home | runa: or try using i386 on a test server and see how it fares |
| 22:43.19 | macman_ | last thing if you don mind .. i installed a package called gamba .. can i do a dpkg -r gamb* ? |
| 22:43.28 | runa | jelly-home: -1 to i386, I'm using varnish here |
| 22:43.41 | jelly-home | I have no idea what varnish is |
| 22:43.43 | karme | runa: that varnishd grabs a lot of ram? |
| 22:43.47 | CodeNinja | jelly-home: ah, so then it was just something you didnt know :) I've picked up a lot of stuff about apt, for example, apt-get upgrade <package> will actually not upgrade that package, but upgrade everything else, and pin <package> :| lol |
| 22:44.08 | runa | karme: it's supposed to leave the kernel the task to decide if it goes to disk or ram. it's pretty interesting, way over my head |
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| 22:46.59 | karme | runa: well maybe that just doesn't work well in your case ;-) |
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| 22:48.35 | runa | karme: :) thanks! |
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| 22:48.51 | karme | runa: i don't know |
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| 22:49.01 | karme | runa: just a guess |
| 22:50.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, must have been within the last 1-2 years |
| 22:50.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | I thought only aptitude had it, too |
| 22:50.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | (purge) |
| 22:51.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, huh... 28 Jun 2007 * add "purge" commandline argument, closes: #133421 |
| 22:52.21 | jelly-home | yay? |
| 22:52.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | yay-ya |
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| 22:53.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | so only since lenny |
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| 22:53.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | but lenny had it during most of its time as testing |
| 22:54.27 | jelly-home | still have to upgrade most of the machines to lenny |
| 22:54.41 | jelly-home | (and quite a number to etch) |
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| 22:56.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, it's a round pocket flatbread |
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| 23:01.23 | razorx | how do i edit/extract .ko files? |
| 23:01.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | "not" |
| 23:02.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | they're compiled binaries |
| 23:02.01 | SimManiac | razorx: you'r awesome dude |
| 23:02.23 | razorx | thank u sir |
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| 23:02.56 | Tortel | if you can read binary, go for it |
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| 23:03.29 | razorx | hexdump maybe |
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| 23:05.53 | Tortel | could someone here running sid post their repositories? |
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| 23:06.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | !wayttd razorx |
| 23:06.15 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, razorx? |
| 23:06.30 | dondelelcaro | Tortel: uh... you only need the main mirrors; man sources.list for details |
| 23:06.30 | razorx | getting a key |
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| 23:07.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps under the doormat? |
| 23:07.23 | adb | razorx, sometimes mc do it |
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| 23:08.56 | razorx | adb, ok hexdump did the trick for me thx :) |
| 23:09.22 | Tortel | is there only one main repo for sid? last I knew there were many repos (back in 3.1) |
| 23:09.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | whatever he wanted... seems happy |
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| 23:10.22 | dondelelcaro | Tortel: uh... there's always only been one repository |
| 23:10.32 | Tortel | well, my bad :P |
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| 23:23.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | Hm, any idea what password they are talking about here? http://www.net-security.org/secworld.php?id=7263 |
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| 23:24.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | I've gotten lots of incoming calls on my ekiga (sometimes >100 over a weekend) and wonder what someone is trying to do and if they have a chance of being successful |
| 23:24.41 | Tortel | you could just unplug it :P |
| 23:25.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | I could quit ekiga after use |
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| 23:25.32 | Tortel | look though the phone settings for any passowrd |
| 23:25.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | but if they're getting the password to some account with this, they'd already have been successful |
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| 23:25.52 | Tortel | true |
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| 23:26.19 | Md | FYI, #debian-devel is now closed and forwarded to #debian |
| 23:26.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | but I don't understand how that should be possible... even looking at that "tutorial" |
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| 23:27.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | I guess I shouldn't have picked up on them :( |
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| 23:29.03 | Tortel | Yeah, I would stop picking up calls from unknown numbers, and change associated passwords. i dont think a single user will be much of a target compared to corperations |
| 23:29.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, wtf is a "digest password" |
| 23:29.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's guarding the guts of the sip phone? |
| 23:29.54 | monkey_d_luffy | I'm having a dependency problem. Basically my system upgrade is failing because "Package kdebase-runtime is not installed" while I'm trying to install it -_-' How do I force it to install that package using dpkg (instead of using aptitude to install all upgrade packages) |
| 23:30.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | by resolving whatever prevents it from being installed |
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| 23:31.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | "aptitude why-not kdebase-runtime" might provide a clue |
| 23:32.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | you're going lenny->squeeze? |
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| 23:33.00 | monkey_d_luffy | CutMeOwnThroat: I'm using testing, and I'm just upgrading some packages... I only wanted to upgrade the kernel and al. but udev "pulled off" kde packages -_- |
| 23:33.37 | Tortel | try dpkg --install --force-all <packagename> |
| 23:33.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | no |
| 23:33.51 | agike | baliben: fetchmail:/home/agike/.fetchmailrc:2: syntax error at /usr/bin/procmail -m /home/agike/.procmailrc |
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| 23:34.09 | monkey_d_luffy | CutMeOwnThroat: Unable to find a reason to remove kdebase-runtime. I don't have it installed, that package is going to be installed for the first time as part of the upgrade. The problem is that it is not being installed before the others. |
| 23:34.50 | kumi | Hi folks. On Lenny, running "apt-get source php5=5.3.1-4" gives me 404 errors for the .dsc and .diff.gz files, but the .tar file is OK. Is this a problem on my end? |
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| 23:35.00 | agike | I'm still getting "fetchmail: connection to localhost:smtp [::1/25] failed: Connection refused. |
| 23:35.00 | agike | " |
| 23:35.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | monkey_d_luffy, a) what does the upgrade say that points to that package b) what happens if you try to install only that package? |
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| 23:35.07 | themill | monkey_d_luffy: the actual output of "aptitude -f full-upgrade" and "apt-cache policy" would be handy. |
| 23:35.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions php5 |
| 23:35.35 | judd | php5 -- etch: 5.2.0-8+etch13; etch-security: 5.2.0+dfsg-8+etch16; lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny4; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny4; sid: 5.2.12.dfsg.1-2; squeeze: 5.2.12.dfsg.1-2; sid: 5.3.1-4 |
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| 23:37.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | kumi, could be your mirror... I'mg getting all from ftp.us.debian.org fine |
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| 23:37.52 | kumi | CutMeOwnThroat: I also use ftp.us.debian.org. I guess I'm getting a bad mirror |
| 23:38.17 | streuner_ | ftp.us.debian.org is a round-robin |
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| 23:39.39 | kumi | let's try ftp.se... |
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| 23:40.36 | streuner_ | or that |
| 23:41.18 | kumi | yep, worked. ftp.us failed multiple times |
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| 23:45.17 | jhutchins_lt | I know that from here in the American Midwest there are often European servers for Mandriva that are faster. |
| 23:45.38 | jhutchins_lt | Geographic proximity != network proximity != speed. |
| 23:46.06 | kermit | it sort of did before windo scaling |
| 23:46.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | bah, can't get the damn script shown there... I'd really like to know if what they describe there could have already worked on me |
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| 23:51.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | sigh |
| 23:51.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | seems SIP is just a huge smelly cesspit |
| 23:53.12 | nooper | :) |
| 23:53.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | only wish I could script-kiddie like download the script to see if it could have already worked on me |
| 23:53.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | guess quitting ekiga whenever possible in future is a good move |
| 23:54.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course, that means I can't get real incoming calls |
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| 23:59.00 | monkey_d_luffy | I was able to solve some dependencies problems, but still not working. Now it complains about not installing udev because my kernel is too old, but I'm trying to upgrade my kernel as well. And I can't prevent udev upgrade because hal will complain, and I'm unable to downgrade all now :( |
| 23:59.06 | monkey_d_luffy | http://pastebin.com/d1dab1e4a |
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