| 00:00.20 | Autoscum | gxine is a little better, but still pixelatey. |
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| 00:01.04 | EMPER0R | hi everyone |
| 00:01.29 | Autoscum | hey, EMPER0R |
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| 00:02.35 | EMPER0R | i set this into exim4 message_size_limit = 1MB level global but i want to @some.domain can accept mail till 5MB how can i make that acl ... i search for many sites but don't found it yet |
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| 00:04.23 | petemc | EMPER0R: you could do that with a condition |
| 00:05.31 | EMPER0R | yes but not work for me .. its wrong and accept with < or > :( |
| 00:05.35 | EMPER0R | i try again.. |
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| 00:08.03 | petemc | EMPER0R: pastebin what you have now |
| 00:08.19 | EMPER0R | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.30 | EMPER0R | but how can i insert @example.domain |
| 00:08.41 | petemc | and where did you set the macro MESSAGE_SIZE_LIMIT ? |
| 00:08.59 | petemc | domains = foo , on the line before the condition |
| 00:09.02 | EMPER0R | is just the var below saying 1MB |
| 00:09.11 | petemc | the what? |
| 00:09.30 | EMPER0R | sorry i'm spanish man my english not is good |
| 00:09.44 | petemc | condition = ${if <{$message_size}{5120k}{true}{false}} |
| 00:09.44 | EMPER0R | let try again.. |
| 00:10.15 | EMPER0R | ok that what is in human readly? |
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| 00:10.45 | petemc | a reject or drop, with the domains clause and that condition should work |
| 00:11.21 | EMPER0R | so accept if 20k or 40k but 10MB not accept right? |
| 00:11.48 | petemc | anything below 5meg |
| 00:12.18 | EMPER0R | ok and domain example where is type? |
| 00:12.47 | petemc | you should look at some existing acls, you should be able to extrapolate it from them |
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| 00:13.20 | petemc | the real message size isnt available until the data acl, btw |
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| 00:20.30 | EMPER0R | uff not works |
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| 00:21.49 | EMPER0R | petemc: check this please i typed deny domains = gmail.com condition = ${if < {$message_size}{4000k}{1}{0}} |
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| 00:22.22 | dutchfish | hi, can someone explain while we got Accepted 2.6.26-21lenny1 up till 3 in one day on http://packages.qa.debian.org/l/linux-2.6.html with security fixes, wich DSA read-up i can do? |
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| 00:23.56 | nooper | wat |
| 00:24.19 | linduxed | can one make it impossible to login through ssh if you dont have a key? |
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| 00:24.56 | linduxed | as in "i have to find a coresponding key in .ssh/authorized_keys" |
| 00:25.10 | linduxed | otherwise you dont get in |
| 00:25.33 | petemc | EMPER0R: what do you have before that, drop or accept or.. ? |
| 00:25.48 | petemc | oh, deny |
| 00:25.51 | EMPER0R | just have this lines |
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| 00:26.46 | EMPER0R | i guess message_size_limit is political and 1st rule before the condition |
| 00:26.52 | petemc | EMPER0R: stop exim, then run exim -d -bd and try to send a large mail to yourself |
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| 00:27.01 | EMPER0R | ok |
| 00:27.04 | petemc | no, the acls ar run forst |
| 00:27.06 | Xenguy | linduxed: I think you just have to configure that in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 00:27.07 | petemc | first |
| 00:27.14 | EMPER0R | ah ok |
| 00:27.14 | nooper | linduxed: sshd_config will need 'PasswordAuthentication no' |
| 00:27.25 | EMPER0R | i teel you what happed ... |
| 00:27.31 | linduxed | nooper: will try that |
| 00:27.58 | LinuxGuy2009 | I need to get a few things straight. The main desktop environments are Gnome, KDE, LXDE, XFCE. All the other choices are basically just X with a window manager such as fluxbox etc? That about right? |
| 00:28.03 | petemc | EMPER0R: it will be very verbose, look for where it runs that particular acl |
| 00:28.30 | Xenguy | LinuxGuy2009: yep, pretty much |
| 00:28.36 | EMPER0R | erm it's a mx so have many debugs :S |
| 00:28.39 | petemc | and it prints to stderr, if you want to put it in a file |
| 00:28.49 | EMPER0R | need > file but continues out in standar out |
| 00:28.57 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2009: you left out a few |
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| 00:29.03 | EMPER0R | 2>&1 works ? |
| 00:29.12 | petemc | sure |
| 00:29.19 | jeeves_Moss | how can I recursivlly move data from the CLI? |
| 00:29.26 | EMPER0R | exim -d -bd 2>&1 > /var/log/debug.log not works |
| 00:29.32 | linduxed | nooper: how do i restart the ssh service? |
| 00:29.42 | Xenguy | jeeves_Moss: mv ? |
| 00:29.48 | petemc | EMPER0R: the binary is exim4 |
| 00:29.54 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2009: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment#Examples_of_desktop_environments .. learn how to google |
| 00:29.57 | epsilon | linduxed: /etc/init.d/sshd restart |
| 00:30.06 | EMPER0R | and? o.O |
| 00:30.27 | jeeves_Moss | Xenguy, I need to move all the data from /mnt/external/Sorted/* to /mnt/MP3 but I also need to detach the process so I can leave it running in the background |
| 00:30.46 | epsilon | jeeves_Moss: screen |
| 00:30.51 | EMPER0R | top |
| 00:31.02 | petemc | EMPER0R: you can simulate a delivery with -bh, if you feel like typing in over 4 meg of ascii |
| 00:31.02 | LinuxGuy2009 | Love when I ask for help that I get some smart mouth answer. |
| 00:31.11 | EMPER0R | ok |
| 00:31.15 | EMPER0R | thats better |
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| 00:31.55 | jeeves_Moss | epsilon, thanks |
| 00:31.56 | LinuxGuy2009 | I know what a desktop manager is. That wasnt my point. Isnt fluxbox just a window manager on top of X11? |
| 00:33.00 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2009: do you always get smart with people? others have been complaining |
| 00:33.29 | LinuxGuy2009 | I didnt ask for a smart answer like "learn to google". |
| 00:33.54 | LinuxGuy2009 | I was asking if fluxbox is a window manager on top of X. |
| 00:34.03 | abrotman | go google that too |
| 00:34.07 | LinuxGuy2009 | no |
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| 00:34.23 | micols | anybody know why a diskless client with nfs3 rootfs freezes when it tries to write to a full mounted partition (nfs)? |
| 00:34.24 | abrotman | have a good night .. i doubt anyone here is willing to help someone too lazy to google |
| 00:34.24 | dutchfish | LinuxGuy2009, apt-rdepends -d [your packagemanagers packagename] |
| 00:34.46 | micols | does it keep retrying so other nfs partitions mounted i.e. root will not work before the full partition is cleaned ? |
| 00:34.48 | abrotman | especially for such a simple questoin |
| 00:34.49 | abrotman | question |
| 00:34.55 | LinuxGuy2009 | thanks dutchfish |
| 00:35.39 | micols | and any way around it?, no fun the client freezing just because i.e. /bigdir becomes full, when / has lots of free space |
| 00:36.01 | micols | seems even quotas doesn't do the trick |
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| 00:42.17 | EMPER0R | thanxs.. i hav to go :/ |
| 00:42.21 | EMPER0R | after back again |
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| 00:43.48 | dabreegster | So I even --reinstall'd libgl1-mesa-dev, and still dont have /usr/lib/libGL.so like the package filelist claims I should. I've got libGL.so.1, but -lGL doesnt find that. Solution beyond softlinks all the time? |
| 00:44.55 | dutchfish | dabreegster, are you on SID or using mesa 7.7 ? |
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| 00:45.40 | dabreegster | dutchfish: testing and no, 7.6 |
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| 00:47.19 | dutchfish | dabreegster, then apt-file search /usr/lib/libGL.so will give a list of the bins that provide it, actually there are several depending on your hardware wich one to use/uild |
| 00:47.32 | dutchfish | s/uild/build |
| 00:47.36 | TrueDD | Good night all |
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| 00:50.22 | keith4_ | how do I force apt to replace deleted config files, when it says "Not replacing deleted config file"? |
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| 00:51.36 | Tramp | !tell keith4_ -about confmiss |
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| 00:52.06 | keith4_ | Tramp, thanks |
| 00:52.11 | Tramp | yw |
| 00:52.18 | dabreegster | dutchfish: ah, it's cause I have sid version nvidia-glx installed from when a testing upgrade broke things. thanks for the apt-file tip |
| 00:53.04 | dutchfish | dabreegster, yep, and they are mutually exclusive, and don't mix ;) |
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| 00:56.25 | codyrobbins | Which file are password hashes kept in in Lenny? |
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| 00:57.21 | keith4_ | /etc/shadow |
| 00:58.25 | codyrobbins | keith4_: That's what I thought. But I just realized the users on this system all have blank passwords, thus no hashes in /etc/shadow |
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| 00:58.27 | codyrobbins | Thanks ;) |
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| 01:03.09 | dbbolton | are there any special precautions that need to be taken when building libc6 from debian source? |
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| 01:04.06 | petemc | dbbolton: you should take care that you dont break your system |
| 01:05.11 | dbbolton | petemc i'm using a secondary hard drive to do it |
| 01:05.36 | dbbolton | the build always fails about 6 hours in. |
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| 01:08.10 | petemc | not something ive ever done, so i dont know much about it |
| 01:08.14 | dbbolton | ok |
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| 01:10.50 | linduxed | is there anything else than unison for file syncing? |
| 01:11.00 | linduxed | rsync doesn't count |
| 01:11.13 | dbbolton | scp |
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| 01:11.52 | Amarande | dbbolton, is your RAM okay? |
| 01:12.00 | linduxed | im not out for a copying tool, i want something that can check, compare and complete directories with changes |
| 01:12.19 | hayleyw | how does rsync not do that? |
| 01:12.24 | dbbolton | Amarande: i think so. i also have 3.4 gb of swap |
| 01:12.33 | Amarande | I mean, have you run memtest or the like? |
| 01:12.39 | hayleyw | rsync -a |
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| 01:12.47 | linduxed | hayleyw: you dont have a ruleset system built in |
| 01:12.51 | dbbolton | Amarande: not recently, but ill try that |
| 01:12.55 | petemc | gcc is better than memtest |
| 01:13.02 | hayleyw | linduxed, sure you do, if you read the man page |
| 01:13.15 | quickmax | hi.. i connected my laptop a crt monitor and wanna to work only with it.. to close laptops monitor i used "xrandr LVDS --of" but after reboot still two of them are opening.. how can i fix it ? |
| 01:13.17 | linduxed | hayleyw: the very idea of unison is that you have lots of rules that you tweak and then just press a button |
| 01:13.28 | linduxed | hayleyw: hell it's built upon rsync |
| 01:13.32 | linduxed | afaik |
| 01:13.52 | linduxed | but the idea is to simplify the process of syncing with rsync |
| 01:14.35 | zoredache | how to the packages know if a configuration file has not been changed from the default? I want to write a script, that updates a configuration files only if it the default |
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| 01:24.23 | Devastator | is there a way to discover which module is causing kernel tainted? |
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| 01:27.29 | Acony | I am not able to run apache2 normally |
| 01:27.49 | Acony | I am on testing version by the way and installed apache2 normally but |
| 01:28.01 | Acony | I have problems with mod rewrite on it |
| 01:28.12 | Amarande | Devastator: which taint code? |
| 01:28.47 | Amarande | i.e. |
| 01:28.54 | Amarande | what are the letters after "Tainted:" in your kernel message? |
| 01:29.22 | Devastator | Amarande well.. wait |
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| 01:30.16 | Devastator | Amarande http://pastebin.com/m3af0e6db |
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| 01:30.53 | Devastator | it says |
| 01:30.53 | Devastator | [ 1776.783133] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint |
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| 01:31.47 | Amarande | weird, no taint letters |
| 01:31.56 | Amarande | are you using the proprietary nvidia or ati driver by any chance? |
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| 01:32.06 | Devastator | Amarande nope |
| 01:32.19 | Amarande | have you installed any kernel modules that didn't come with debian? |
| 01:33.03 | Amarande | and do you have a single- or dual-core CPU? |
| 01:33.14 | Devastator | Amarande no, but I forgot to say this log is from a testing-amd64 system |
| 01:33.27 | Devastator | Amarande dual-core, actually core2duo e7500 |
| 01:33.33 | Amarande | hmm |
| 01:33.37 | Amarande | you might have bad ram, run memtest |
| 01:33.46 | Amarande | according to this, the possible causes of kernel taint are six in number |
| 01:34.40 | lcb | Hi. I'm running VBox 3.1.4 r57640, on a Debian/testing - Linux 2.6.32-trunk-686, repository deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian lenny non-free. Due to the warning on boot "The vboxdrv kernel module is not loaded" I need to apt-get install virtualbox modules and I can not find the appropriate ones, only "ose"s I would like to know if there is a different repository for it or if there is no module available for the current kernel. |
| 01:35.01 | Amarande | 1) proprietary licensed driver module loaded; 2) a module was loaded using -f for insmod or modprobe; 3) a module that was in use was removed using -f for rmmod; 4) an SMP kernel is running on a non-SMP processor setup; 5) a Machine Check Exception (serious hardware error) was raised while the kernel was running; 6) a process was found in a bad page state |
| 01:35.20 | lcb | oops, thought you're done :( |
| 01:35.42 | Amarande | Devastator: so far, it's seeming to me that the likely cause of your taint is either #5 or #6, which would suggest hardware issues, of which the first thing to check is normally the RAM |
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| 01:36.49 | Amarande | yeah, your trace contains print_bad_pte() |
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| 01:37.05 | Amarande | which appears to be related to bad page table entries ... so presumably #6 |
| 01:37.10 | simonrvn | lcb: run the init script. it handles building the modules. |
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| 01:37.23 | Amarande | your virtual memory was corrupted. check your RAM with memtest when you reboot |
| 01:37.24 | Led_Zeppelin | using wireshark or tcpdump is it possible to see what files are being accessed via NFS? |
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| 01:39.11 | Roland- | hey, is etch discontinued? any security updates for it? |
| 01:39.52 | Tramp | !tell Roland- -about etch |
| 01:40.25 | lcb | simonrvn, thank you. I will. I put the matter on #VBox and ##kernel also just in case. thanks a lot. |
| 01:40.42 | simonrvn | no |
| 01:40.45 | Amarande | man, I remember using etch when etch was testing :) |
| 01:41.01 | abrotman | Roland-: yes, security is done |
| 01:41.19 | Amarande | Roland, it's time to upgrade to lenny |
| 01:41.20 | hayleyw | Amarande, good for you. apparently you're not 10 |
| 01:41.35 | Amarande | Actually, my first Debian install was Bo. |
| 01:41.45 | Amarande | is getting old. :| |
| 01:42.03 | dvs | Amarande: same here |
| 01:42.07 | Amarande | I still remember the nasty identd bug Bo had, too |
| 01:42.09 | simonrvn | lcb: np |
| 01:42.18 | Devastator | Amarande yep.. I did one pass with memtest without errors, tomorrow I will stress this beast |
| 01:42.27 | Devastator | 4gb takes too long to test :( |
| 01:42.38 | Amarande | Devastator: just boot memtest before you go to work |
| 01:42.49 | Amarande | check when you get home :) |
| 01:43.26 | Devastator | Amarande it's my work computer :D |
| 01:43.32 | Devastator | I have to do the opposite |
| 01:43.41 | Amarande | If I recall, Bo was current around the time script kiddies particularly liked to experiment with port scans |
| 01:43.55 | Devastator | bo? |
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| 01:44.02 | Amarande | and apparently, there was a really annoying bug with the default identd with Bo where if you got scanned on 113, it would not only crash but take inetd with it |
| 01:44.07 | simonrvn | !releases |
| 01:44.08 | dpkg | See http://www.debian.org/releases/ for an explanation of releases. See <release history> for prior releases. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases |
| 01:44.15 | simonrvn | !release history |
| 01:44.16 | dpkg | Debian releases have always been named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-03-09), Potato(2.2; 2000-08-15), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06), Etch(4.0; 2007-04-08), Lenny(5.0; 2009-02-14). The next release will be Squeeze. See also http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html. |
| 01:44.30 | Amarande | that was when I first switched to oidentd and insisted on sticking with it ever since. :) |
| 01:45.09 | simonrvn | oidentd hndles natted nets well too |
| 01:45.16 | PupiUserXxX | wonders if a Lenny install will also load unstable or experimental packages ? |
| 01:45.23 | simonrvn | no |
| 01:45.32 | PupiUserXxX | bummer |
| 01:45.36 | Amarande | simonrvn, was there ever a debian 1.0? |
| 01:45.36 | simonrvn | then it isn't lenny |
| 01:45.47 | dvs | Amarande: not officially |
| 01:46.05 | simonrvn | ihni |
| 01:46.09 | dvs | What did happen to Infomagic? |
| 01:46.13 | PupiUserXxX | thanks simonrvn |
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| 01:46.26 | simonrvn | msut've been when it was still a gnu project |
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| 01:46.51 | Roland- | abrotman what shalt I add in sources.list for etch security ? |
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| 01:47.00 | abrotman | Roland-: it's not there anymore |
| 01:47.00 | simonrvn | there isn't any |
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| 01:47.02 | abrotman | !etch security |
| 01:47.03 | dpkg | Etch is the code name for Debian version 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Etch security support ended on 2010-02-15, this release is no longer supported. Etch users should upgrade to Lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEtch http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100121 |
| 01:47.06 | dvs | Roland-: there's no point,. No more updates |
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| 01:47.47 | Amarande | Roland: you change your sources to point to lenny and do a dist-upgrade, that's what |
| 01:48.19 | Amarande | btw, is Squeeze to be 5.1, or 6.0? |
| 01:50.09 | Roland- | upgrade to lenny is not a good idea yet |
| 01:50.13 | Roland- | 3 admins on this box |
| 01:50.20 | Roland- | need to talk to them 1st |
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| 01:50.56 | abrotman | Amarande: 6.0 |
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| 01:51.08 | dvs | Roland-: "no more updates" would be a convincing argument |
| 01:52.43 | DanDare | After some times i can state that: Everytime after 'apt-get upgrade' where packages were installed, my menu.lst archive is changed, and with wrong parameters, hanging bootup. Why is that ? |
| 01:53.13 | streuner_ | DanDare: sid? |
| 01:53.31 | DanDare | It´s not sid streuner_, just Lenny |
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| 01:54.03 | DanDare | it changes from hd(0,0) to hd(1,0) |
| 01:54.43 | DanDare | and im sure it´s happening after upgrade because it´s 5th time that happens |
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| 01:57.26 | DanDare | I cant find any logic behind this fact |
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| 01:59.38 | dvs | DanDare: /etc/grub/device.map ? |
| 01:59.43 | aleray | hi is there a way I can install my soft in $HOME/usr using aptitude? I'm on a shared hosting and it's really a pain to install all the dependencies by hand |
| 01:59.43 | dvs | oops |
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| 01:59.53 | dvs | DanDare: /boot/grub/device.map ? |
| 02:00.02 | DanDare | dvs, let´s check! thanks |
| 02:00.33 | petemc | aleray: no, i dont think thats supported |
| 02:00.41 | DanDare | maybe some outdated device.map? Anyway, interesting how system reload grub after upgrade so |
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| 02:01.37 | aleray | petemc, too bad :-( |
| 02:01.46 | DanDare | dvs, well... device.map is OK |
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| 02:04.15 | DanDare | dvs, it´s being a while yet but if i can recall i installed Lenny as test on a second HD and them cloned it to the first one as working system. Maybe something from the past on the confs |
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| 02:05.36 | dvs | DanDare: Try grub-install on the first HD. |
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| 02:05.49 | DanDare | allright |
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| 02:07.26 | trurl | hi |
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| 02:13.07 | DanDare | oh, we have fresh libmozjs1d and xulrunner-1.9 upgrades, to test if grub-install fixed that |
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| 02:16.16 | DanDare | trurl, it fixed that, apparently. Will discover if it´s other causes after some time... thanks |
| 02:16.28 | dvs | ... |
| 02:16.59 | trurl | DanDare: does not compute |
| 02:17.21 | DanDare | trurl, what ? |
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| 02:19.11 | trurl | DanDare: that's what i'm thinking... ;) |
| 02:19.17 | DanDare | maybe something else is causing that. Point is that i rarely reboot, just in power losses... what i saw was the first time after a upgrade and after a power loss recovery grub goes wrong changing hd(0,0) to hd(1,0) |
| 02:19.26 | DanDare | good |
| 02:19.44 | dvs | ... |
| 02:19.44 | trurl | DanDare: sorry, do you mean someone else? |
| 02:20.18 | trurl | DanDare: i just joined... |
| 02:20.25 | DanDare | hello trurl |
| 02:20.44 | Amarande | and they say SATA is supposed to be multi drive friendly. :) |
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| 02:21.03 | Amarande | all I ever hear here suggests that SATA is multi drive HELL heh |
| 02:21.04 | dvs | Amarande: only if you use UUID |
| 02:21.14 | Amarande | it's SATAn, even! heh |
| 02:21.29 | Amarande | heh, too bad that name is taken for another program already |
| 02:21.38 | Amarande | that would be a nice name for a utility to help you manage SATA UUIDs |
| 02:21.52 | DanDare | pick SATAnic |
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| 02:26.45 | trurl | i have a rather general networking question: i'm using 'iface ethx:y' in /etc/network/interfaces to bind multiple ips to my nic, but that seems to be deprecated? how is that done 'right'? tia |
| 02:27.05 | trurl | (using lenny) |
| 02:27.09 | abrotman | trurl: AFAIK, that is the way |
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| 02:29.06 | trurl | abrotman: thanks |
| 02:29.14 | simonrvn | trurl: that works... you can use post-up ip addr commands too |
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| 02:31.46 | trurl | simonrvn: yeah, it works for me quite well, but i've read somewhere that one shouldn't do this anymore. so i thought i should ask |
| 02:32.34 | simonrvn | i haven't seen this anywhere. i only hear a small amount of people saying such. |
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| 02:33.40 | trurl | right now i'm wondering why there's no /etc/hosts on my machine... |
| 02:34.46 | kj4 | hello debian people |
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| 02:35.13 | dvs | looks around |
| 02:36.21 | simonrvn | trurl: i moved it to /var the other day |
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| 02:46.46 | juanpr8701 | hi |
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| 03:00.29 | dvs | yay! |
| 03:00.54 | dvs | Way to go, Sid (the kid)! |
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| 03:03.22 | nooper | you have a huge ip address |
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| 03:13.50 | dark | where is gcc-4.4-doc? (and why it is on contrib?) |
| 03:14.07 | abrotman | if you know where it is, why did you ask ? |
| 03:14.11 | abrotman | !gfdl |
| 03:14.11 | dpkg | [gfdl] The GNU "Free" Documentation License, considered <non-free> by Debian in some cases. Read the discussion at http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200309/msg00169.html and http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2003/debian-legal-200304/msg00246.html. See the position statement at http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.html and resolution at http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_001 |
| 03:14.26 | abrotman | or don't wait ... |
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| 03:14.48 | dark | !dfsg |
| 03:14.49 | dpkg | [dfsg] the Debian Free Software Guidelines, which are explained at http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines |
| 03:15.16 | dark | I mean: it's not even in contrib right now (well I think), but other gcc-doc packages are listed as such |
| 03:15.31 | abrotman | did you see what the bot said ? |
| 03:15.56 | abrotman | the gcc stuff is in non-free |
| 03:16.02 | abrotman | erm .. the gcc docs stuff |
| 03:16.14 | dark | but until gcc-4.3-doc it was on debian repos |
| 03:16.18 | dark | under contrib |
| 03:16.39 | abrotman | wrong |
| 03:16.49 | abrotman | dpkg: info gcc-4.1-doc lenny |
| 03:17.03 | dark | okay, it's on non-free |
| 03:18.13 | dark | aptitude install gcc-4.4-doc will not install anything. but gcc-4.4 suggests it |
| 03:18.43 | dark | http://packages.debian.org/sid/gcc-4.4 |
| 03:19.14 | dark | it will be packaged someday, right? |
| 03:19.24 | abrotman | i'd assume |
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| 03:21.43 | dpkg | gcc-4.1-doc: (documentation for the GNU compilers (gcc, gobjc, g++)), section non-free/doc, is optional. Version: 4.1.2.nf2-3 (lenny), Packaged size: 1844 kB, Installed size: 5060 kB |
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| 03:27.45 | dark | http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/fb28f3948e288dde |
| 03:27.56 | dark | it was two months ago. maybe they are having problems? |
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| 03:28.55 | abrotman | are you going to offer to help ? |
| 03:29.34 | dark | how could I help? |
| 03:30.08 | abrotman | there's a mailing list for the gcc stuff i believe, or contact the maintainer |
| 03:30.13 | abrotman | !maint gcc-4.3-doc |
| 03:30.18 | dark | i can't find more info about the status of this package |
| 03:30.22 | dark | hm |
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| 03:30.45 | dpkg | gcc-4.3-doc: Debian GCC Maintainers <debian-gcc@lists.debian.org> |
| 03:31.43 | dark | is there a way to check the maintainers of a package with apt? |
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| 03:32.55 | abrotman | dark: aptitude show ? |
| 03:33.43 | dark | ah, nice, i haven't noticed :) |
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| 03:36.22 | simonrvn | aptitude show ... hmm... what kind of show is it? |
| 03:36.42 | simonrvn | runs away quickly |
| 03:36.58 | yagoo | simonrvn, something *d-a-r-k* |
| 03:37.10 | simonrvn | heh heh |
| 03:37.25 | simonrvn | a horror picture show? |
| 03:37.30 | yagoo | feels spooked by mystical curses |
| 03:37.51 | shoppe | i made a bunch of symbolic links to busybox and my bin dir went from 500k to 10MB. are the links supposed to take up that much space? i was creating the links with the comand 'ln -s <filename> <link name>' |
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| 03:38.30 | simonrvn | i sorta doubt it ... |
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| 03:39.10 | Vesperto | If i use dpkg -i package.deb and it requires dependencies, but doesn't install them and i leave it be, does the package (testing's opensshd) alter in any way the system? |
| 03:39.24 | abrotman | Vesperto: aptitude -f install |
| 03:39.29 | shoppe | each link is being shown to take up exactly the same amount of space as the file it is linking to... |
| 03:40.09 | Vesperto | abrotman: i don't want to force it unless i'm sure it won't actually need those dependencies, 'sides, i've kinda locked myself out. I get "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host" |
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| 03:40.44 | oh_noes | is it possible to set the timezone via command without prompting? Obviously dpkg-reconfigure tzdata -- but this prompts for the user to chose one |
| 03:40.54 | oh_noes | can I do anything like "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata UTC" ? |
| 03:41.25 | shoppe | simonrvn: was that to me? |
| 03:41.33 | abrotman | oh_noes: echo "footimezone" > /etc/timezone ? |
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| 03:43.07 | oh_noes | abrotman: I thought that, but i wasnt sure if that was enough? Is that the only spot it's used? |
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| 04:04.17 | MattJ | oh_noes: Look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/tzdata.config - a brief glance suggests that /etc/timezone is enough, but don't take my word for it :) |
| 04:04.38 | oh_noes | MattJ: thanks. I'll take a look :) |
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| 04:10.33 | DanDare | What is the default Debian gcc version ? |
| 04:10.34 | dondelelcaro | oh_noes: you can write to that file, and link /etc/localtime |
| 04:10.37 | dondelelcaro | DanDare: depends |
| 04:10.40 | DanDare | ok |
| 04:10.47 | DanDare | thanks |
| 04:11.02 | dondelelcaro | oh_noes: or more correctly, copy the right zone to /etc/localtime |
| 04:11.38 | dondelelcaro | DanDare: for etch, it was 4.1.1, for lenny, 4.3, right now for testing and unstable, it's 4.4 |
| 04:11.55 | DanDare | im getting "cannot find -lstdc++" error while trying to compile... libstdc is installed |
| 04:12.03 | dondelelcaro | !real problem |
| 04:12.04 | dpkg | Please tell us what the real problem is instead of wasting our time asking questions about things that you think are related to the problem. If you don't, you're just wasting your time and ours. [Far too often what you think is related to the problem actually isn't or won't help you solve your problem at all.], or see <xyproblem> |
| 04:12.13 | DanDare | Ah got it dondelelcaro, thanks. Lenny here |
| 04:12.16 | oh_noes | dondelelcaro: so on top of "echo Etc/UTC" > /etc/timezone I need to do something else? |
| 04:12.16 | dondelelcaro | DanDare: what are you trying to build? |
| 04:12.33 | DanDare | dondelelcaro, libfaac |
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| 04:12.42 | dondelelcaro | DanDare: for what purpose? |
| 04:12.54 | DanDare | dondelelcaro, for ffmpeg |
| 04:13.04 | dondelelcaro | DanDare: why aren't you just installing ffmpeg? |
| 04:13.24 | DanDare | dondelelcaro, i want features not enabled on deb package |
| 04:13.37 | dondelelcaro | DanDare: so use the Debian Multimedia package |
| 04:13.47 | dondelelcaro | oh_noes: /etc/timezone just provides information about the name of the timezone, /etc/localtime provides the tzdata itself |
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| 04:13.58 | DanDare | dondelelcaro, you mean debian-multimedia.org ? |
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| 04:14.09 | dondelelcaro | DanDare: yes |
| 04:14.34 | DanDare | dondelelcaro, they are good? I mean, they have almost last version of stuff and all ? |
| 04:14.50 | dondelelcaro | DanDare: they work |
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| 04:15.07 | DanDare | dondelelcaro, sounds reasonable. thanks |
| 04:17.22 | dondelelcaro | DanDare: generally speaking, the best thing to do is to install the existing binaries; if you really do need something different, apt-cache search and apt-get builddeps foopkg; (or better, cowdancer and pbuilder) are your friends |
| 04:17.40 | oh_noes | dondelelcaro: arr, so I need to copy the actual contents of the timezone file itself to /etc/localtime? |
| 04:17.46 | dondelelcaro | oh_noes: yes |
| 04:18.27 | oh_noes | thank you. |
| 04:19.35 | canthearyou | there is a program to select which sound card i want to use. cant remember what it's called |
| 04:21.45 | Vesperto | I'm getting "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host" after trying to upgrade to testing's version - dpkg -i required other packages, so i left it at that. |
| 04:21.45 | indeed | alsaconf ? |
| 04:22.04 | canthearyou | indeed: indeed |
| 04:22.10 | Vesperto | Any workarounds abesides rebooting? |
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| 04:22.53 | the|herbivore | alsaconf <as root> |
| 04:23.50 | hardbop200 | ok, I've got a dog-ass slow laptop that I need to use for a bit. would be nice if no X. is there a package in debian squeeze that can do something like split screen, i.e. screen with the vs patch? something I don't have to recompile ;) |
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| 04:32.28 | shoppe | is there a way to install just one package and ignore any dependencies that apt-get wants to install? |
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| 04:35.04 | LinuxGuy2009 | Is there a command to install all suggests for all installed packages? |
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| 04:45.45 | SerajewelKS | why would apache be unable to write to a file that is chgrp'd to www-data and group-writable? |
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| 04:55.19 | Devastator | how to mount a fat floppy? |
| 04:55.28 | Devastator | mount -t vfat /dev/fd0? |
| 04:55.42 | wols | you need a mountpoint too. apart from that yes |
| 04:57.59 | Devastator | wols I'm trying to create a bootable disk with dd if=drdflash.img of=/dev/fd0 bs=1440k count=1 |
| 04:58.14 | Devastator | drdflash.img is an image of drdos |
| 05:00.16 | Devastator | do I have to specify something to format the disk as fat? |
| 05:00.34 | Devastator | with fdformat |
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| 05:04.55 | yagoo | Devastator, I hate dr.dos |
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| 05:08.05 | luke3321 | Any DDs in here know if there is a way to tell if your GPG key has entered the keyring once you have been accepted as a DM? |
| 05:08.39 | Devastator | yagoo what do you recommend? :S |
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| 05:11.16 | yagoo | Devastator, debian |
| 05:11.38 | rxt0 | does JFS support fallocate syscall (pre-allocation) ? |
| 05:13.49 | nooper | this is #debian |
| 05:14.57 | rxt0 | yep, sorry, but don't know where else to ask |
| 05:16.04 | wols | Devastator: no need to specify when using an image. and we recommend freedos of course when one needs DOS |
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| 05:18.18 | Rusty1 | rxt0: theres sposedly a #btrfs channel. maybe there |
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| 05:40.43 | k\t | hmm, i can't seem to get dhcpd to distinguish agains the "option root-path" for different systems... |
| 05:40.52 | k\t | against* |
| 05:44.14 | Devastator | wols looks like fdformat is broken, whatever I used it, it would not create a fat partition |
| 05:44.26 | Devastator | solved using mkfs.vfat |
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| 06:08.09 | webPhone | how can I pipe to a file and also print to console? |
| 06:08.23 | webPhone | I have ./my.pl | my.txt |
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| 06:09.12 | k\t | ./my.pl | tee my.txt |
| 06:09.42 | webPhone | tee eh? |
| 06:09.56 | k\t | Mhmm.. |
| 06:10.51 | k\t | what are you doing again..? |
| 06:11.19 | webPhone | that doesn't quite work. |
| 06:11.43 | webPhone | trying to make a perl write the numbers 1 to 999999999 in a tdt |
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| 06:11.48 | webPhone | txt* |
| 06:12.12 | webPhone | the pl script prints |
| 06:12.17 | k\t | hmm, try #perl... |
| 06:12.59 | webPhone | hrmmmm it just prints |
| 06:13.08 | webPhone | to stdout |
| 06:13.36 | webPhone | trick is dong twothings with the output in bash |
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| 06:14.07 | webPhone | ohhhh |
| 06:15.21 | webPhone | can you zip oh the fly |
| 06:15.26 | webPhone | on* |
| 06:15.42 | webPhone | as you tee use bzip |
| 06:15.48 | k\t | erm? |
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| 06:16.36 | webPhone | my originaly command is ./my.pl | bzip2 -zc > my.txt.bz2 |
| 06:16.54 | webPhone | but tee won't let me do that |
| 06:17.08 | nooper | your command | tee outfile | bzip2 > something.bz2 |
| 06:17.23 | k\t | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:17.23 | webPhone | ah thanks! |
| 06:17.24 | nooper | but what are you really trying to do? |
| 06:17.33 | k\t | nnoper* |
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| 06:18.23 | webPhone | make a txt with the sequences from1 to 9999999999 |
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| 06:18.34 | nooper | bash can do that |
| 06:18.41 | webPhone | but it has to be zipped because it hits several gigs |
| 06:19.20 | webPhone | it's 0000000000 to 9999999999 |
| 06:19.38 | webPhone | prefixed. I just know perl so I used it |
| 06:19.44 | nooper | ah |
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| 06:20.34 | webPhone | nooper that zips afterward? |
| 06:20.58 | webPhone | this is weird because I am hitting a max filesize limit of some sort |
| 06:21.00 | nooper | that'll zip on the fly, but 'outfile' will also have the unzipped stuff |
| 06:21.42 | k\t | that is ridiculously large... check the output on ... (yes $(seq 1 100000000)) |
| 06:21.43 | webPhone | not sure if this drive is fat32 |
| 06:21.45 | nooper | is there an error message? |
| 06:22.02 | k\t | opposed to.... (yes $(seq 1 9000)) |
| 06:22.27 | webPhone | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:22.38 | webPhone | I know right |
| 06:22.55 | webPhone | I may have it |
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| 06:24.39 | webPhone | htm WTF |
| 06:25.01 | webPhone | tee temp writes but no stdout |
| 06:25.55 | webPhone | yea. this isn't working |
| 06:26.07 | webPhone | once you tee you can't pipe again |
| 06:26.21 | webPhone | or it doesn't stdout |
| 06:26.46 | webPhone | which makes sense that tee would have to be at the end somehow of the comand |
| 06:26.48 | nooper | i think i got it, ./my.pl | tee >(bzip2 > out.bz2) |
| 06:26.57 | nooper | make sure there's no space between > and ( |
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| 06:29.01 | webPhone | perfect thanks! |
| 06:29.21 | nooper | finally, reading the bash man page has paid off |
| 06:29.24 | nooper | for someone |
| 06:30.07 | k\t | lol |
| 06:30.35 | webPhone | yea I would have googled around but it sucks googlig on this phone |
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| 06:33.28 | Devastator | people created pendrive, but didn't create easy tools to handle it |
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| 06:33.51 | Devastator | how can it be so difficult to create a bootable pendrive? |
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| 06:33.58 | Omar | b |
| 06:34.02 | Omar | bb |
| 06:34.02 | Devastator | floppy disk was so easy :( |
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| 06:34.14 | Omar | hi guys |
| 06:34.26 | Omar | i need a name of a program please |
| 06:34.41 | nooper | any program? |
| 06:35.14 | Omar | i have a debian computer internet throw card1 and to a router on card2 ,from router to other pcs |
| 06:35.30 | Omar | i need a program to control this network |
| 06:35.48 | Omar | one with grafical interface |
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| 06:41.28 | k\t | nooper, how do you extract it? |
| 06:41.55 | nooper | bunzip2 |
| 06:42.18 | k\t | i might have the command wrong, what was it again? |
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| 06:43.11 | nooper | is right there ^ |
| 06:44.10 | k\t | =X |
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| 06:44.32 | k\t | sorrz... |
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| 06:44.35 | RecycleCorn | ew Orleans done? If you are sick of this, join Chimpout Forum! http://www.chimpout.com/forum |
| 06:46.08 | codingrobot | is it normal to have system load about '18' when reading/writing from md raid5. the server has a dual core cpu and both cores are 80% loaded. this is a simple file extract operation |
| 06:46.08 | dbbolton | i'm having trouble writing an image file to a floppy disk. dd says it's read only, even though the disk is unlocked |
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| 06:47.39 | RecycleCorn | ew Orleans done? If you are sick of this, join Chimpout Forum! http://www.chimpout.com/forum |
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| 06:47.53 | dbbolton | oops |
| 06:47.54 | bittin | is back (gone 07:41:16) |
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| 06:49.45 | nooper | k\t: is it working? |
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| 06:51.12 | RecycleCorn | ew Orleans done? If you are sick of this, join Chimpout Forum! http://www.chimpout.com/forum |
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| 06:53.05 | bittin | is away: d |
| 06:53.59 | bittin | is back (gone 00:00:06) |
| 06:54.13 | Kamping_Kaiser | bittin: could you turn that off? |
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| 06:59.59 | hid3 | Good morning everyone. How do I properly set up the hosts.allow and hosts.deny files? I want to restrict access to sshd only from the inside: I put 'sshd: 192.168.1.0/24' to 'hosts.allow' file and 'sshd: ALL' to 'hosts.deny' file. However, that doesn't seem to work (I'm denied from sshd@) |
| 07:00.01 | hid3 | Any ideas? |
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| 07:03.14 | nooper | sshd@ ? |
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| 07:05.05 | nooper | whats the error message. and sshd: ALL will block connections from localhost |
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| 07:17.28 | Vesperto | nooper: speaking of sshd errors, i'm locked out by "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host", any suggestions? |
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| 07:20.28 | NiLon | Vesperto google is your friend |
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| 07:22.48 | Vesperto | NiLon: wow, you're very helpful. Neither of the 3 solutions search engines provided me turned out useful, especially since it's a remote machine. |
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| 07:24.03 | NiLon | Vesperto then it's good to point that out that you tried those solutions |
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| 07:38.10 | jelly-home | Vesperto: that message doesn't say much, can you examine (and pastebin) the whole output of ssh -vvv remotemachine? |
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| 07:43.49 | cast | is there any means to live migrate processes between machines? |
| 07:44.16 | Vesperto | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/d60a9662c thanks |
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| 07:47.57 | Vesperto | Did my keys get borked or something? |
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| 07:50.02 | Vesperto | jelly-home: i renamed my ~/.ssh and the output reduced significantly: http://pastebin.com/d6ef96d3f |
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| 07:54.41 | RickRocK | how i create user and group because i create some virtual host and i want to create one for each virtual host... for SuexecUserGroup |
| 07:55.15 | cast | man adduser |
| 07:56.54 | Vesperto | Oh well i asked for a reboot, hopefully it'll solve it. |
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| 08:07.24 | RickRocK | why when i try to start apache httpd I receive NameVirtualHost MYIP:443 has no Virtualhost ? |
| 08:08.02 | cast | presumably you fucked up configuring apache |
| 08:09.19 | remote | yeah |
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| 08:10.01 | DogBoy | lol |
| 08:10.14 | k\t | ifconfig | bzip2 -f | tee file.bz2 | bzcat |
| 08:10.21 | RickRocK | this chan suck |
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| 08:10.41 | DogBoy | well! |
| 08:11.13 | cast | k\t: eh... |
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| 08:13.28 | remote | this chan rocks, i'm staying |
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| 08:14.43 | Juggernaut | heh |
| 08:14.48 | nooper | that works too |
| 08:16.27 | cast | considers replacing thttpd with publicfile |
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| 08:17.49 | DogBoy | publicfile? |
| 08:18.05 | cast | guess |
| 08:18.22 | DogBoy | oh that guy |
| 08:18.38 | DogBoy | thttpd is a bit of a pain |
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| 08:19.13 | cast | because? |
| 08:19.29 | DogBoy | permissions thing |
| 08:20.02 | cast | raises eyebrow |
| 08:20.29 | DogBoy | my fav is fnord |
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| 08:22.43 | k\t | more like ifconfig | bzip2 -f | tee file.bz2 | bzcat && test "${PIPESTATUS[*]} = 0" && echo [complete] || echo [error] |
| 08:22.46 | cast | i'm guessing if you found dealing with thttpd a pain due to permissions, i probably shouldn't pay too much attention to your preferences |
| 08:23.19 | DogBoy | if you feel that way perhaps you should not have bothered saying anything |
| 08:23.22 | DogBoy | :-) |
| 08:23.39 | cast | i didn't know you'd reply (; |
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| 08:32.53 | rindolf | Hi all. |
| 08:33.10 | rindolf | How do I get a list of all installed packages - just full names + versions, like rpm -qa? |
| 08:33.24 | SPF | rindolf: dpkg -l |
| 08:33.38 | jelly-home | |grep ^.i |
| 08:33.58 | SPF | oh, yes of course :) |
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| 08:34.06 | rindolf | SPF: the problem with it is that it: 1. Also shows uninstalled packages. 2. Does not display the full name. 3. Displays in a tabular columns. |
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| 08:35.22 | jelly-home | rindolf: if it doesn't display the full name, your dpkg is old and you have to set COLUMNS=200 or similar. Or use aptitude instead. |
| 08:35.32 | rindolf | jelly-home: ah. |
| 08:35.55 | rindolf | jelly-home: I'm on Debian Testing. |
| 08:36.12 | jelly-home | rindolf: dpkg -l dpkg libc6|tail -2 ? |
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| 08:36.32 | Stereo | aptitude search '~i' |
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| 08:36.45 | rindolf | 1.15.5.6 |
| 08:36.49 | jelly-home | (see how I ask you to use the very same command to figure out versions of those packages) |
| 08:36.51 | rindolf | 2.10.2-2 |
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| 08:37.24 | Stereo | or aptitude search '~i~nlibc6' |
| 08:37.34 | Stereo | ~i means installed, ~n means name |
| 08:37.35 | apt | You means installed, ~n means name? |
| 08:37.48 | Stereo | what? |
| 08:37.59 | rindolf | Stereo: thanks. |
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| 08:38.31 | jelly-home | Stereo: ~ triggers apt the bot |
| 08:38.42 | Stereo | ~i see |
| 08:38.43 | apt | You see? |
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| 08:39.27 | jelly-home | judd: versions dpkg |
| 08:39.29 | judd | dpkg -- etch: 1.13.26; lenny: 1.14.28; sid: 1.15.5.6; squeeze: 1.15.5.6 |
| 08:39.29 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, judd |
| 08:39.37 | jelly-home | heh |
| 08:40.19 | jelly-home | rindolf: if you need to machine parse, use aptitude. dpkg -l is idiomatic, everyday use |
| 08:40.43 | rindolf | jelly-home: ah. |
| 08:41.28 | jelly-home | and I still think dpkg -l | less does the right thing |
| 08:41.54 | jelly-home | rindolf: the output should change if stdout is not a terminal |
| 08:42.11 | rindolf | Why does apt-get tells me that all my KDE packages are no longer required? |
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| 08:43.09 | ddalton | hi can anyone tell me how to change the default file browser in lxde from pcmanfm to nautilus? |
| 08:43.22 | Stereo | you should be using aptitude - it handles dependencies better than apt-get |
| 08:43.29 | k\t | l8r |
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| 08:45.13 | rindolf | Stereo: aptitude is even worse - it wants to remove them. |
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| 08:45.52 | Stereo | rindolf: you probably removed a package that depended on all those |
| 08:45.59 | rindolf | Stereo: ah. |
| 08:46.02 | rindolf | Stereo: I removed kdvi. |
| 08:46.15 | rindolf | Stereo: how do I tell it that I want amarok installed? |
| 08:46.16 | jelly-home | rindolf: this happens if a metapackage that installed the rest automatically is removed; use aptitude unmarkauto on packages you wish to keep |
| 08:46.17 | Stereo | with aptitude, you can 'aptitude unmarkauto <package>' |
| 08:46.20 | rindolf | And other KDE stuff. |
| 08:46.25 | Stereo | aptitude install amarok probably :) |
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| 08:47.26 | jelly-home | rindolf: do it only for applications you want, let the library packages still be handled automatically |
| 08:47.40 | rindolf | It doesn't work. |
| 08:48.31 | rindolf | It still wants to remove everything. |
| 08:48.39 | Stereo | paste the output? |
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| 08:49.01 | dbbolton | i can't write to my floppy disk: http://paste.debian.net/60460/ |
| 08:49.11 | rindolf | Stereo: OK. |
| 08:49.18 | rindolf | Stereo: and please address me to get my attention. |
| 08:49.25 | Stereo | rindolf: ok :) |
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| 08:50.51 | rindolf | Oh wait! I think these are KDE 3 packages. |
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| 08:58.57 | mobidev | hi 2 all |
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| 08:59.44 | rindolf | Thanks everybody for your help - I'm going to reboot the machine now. |
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| 09:02.35 | sanderj | Anyone know how to set default kernel to boot with in grub2? |
| 09:03.32 | dbbolton | sanderj /etc/default/grub |
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| 09:03.51 | sanderj | dbbolton, Yes.. I know about that file.. but dont know what to change. |
| 09:04.08 | dbbolton | GRUB_DEFAULT=0 |
| 09:04.20 | dbbolton | number of default kernel. 0 is the first/top |
| 09:04.23 | sanderj | dbbolton, ok.. how to I know which kernel is which number? |
| 09:04.31 | dbbolton | i just told you |
| 09:05.00 | sanderj | So I have to boot it to see which kernel is on which number? |
| 09:05.08 | dbbolton | no |
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| 09:05.10 | _Brandon_ | hi, anyone knows if with photorec it's possible to continue an interrupted disk recovery without starting over? |
| 09:05.17 | dbbolton | you can read /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 09:05.24 | dbbolton | they are in order in that file |
| 09:06.04 | dbbolton | see grub-setup(8) |
| 09:06.48 | kj4 | hello debian people |
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| 09:25.40 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 09:25.40 | dpkg | <Overfiend> I think I want to fork GCC. Any time a compiler warning or error would be spewed, my version would just say: gcc: something wrong d00d |
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| 09:32.44 | jelly | ... and that's how llvm got created |
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| 09:37.28 | ketsa | hello, how can I install a package from unstable without changing my sources ? i need xserver-xorg-video-neomagic > 1.2.4-1 wich is broken in squeezeé |
| 09:38.17 | sepisultrum | Hi. How can I set the default window manager in debian? Or better even, how can I make entrance use .Xinitrc? |
| 09:39.34 | azeem_ | ketsa: if it is just one package, you can download it manually and install via dpkg -i, provided all the Dependencies are fulfilled already |
| 09:41.37 | gothenburg | Good morning Vietnam |
| 09:41.52 | kj4 | good morning gothenburg |
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| 09:50.00 | Autoscum | Hey guys, is anyone familiar with the real-time guitar effects program Creox? |
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| 09:56.59 | stonedslacker | How you fellers doin tonight? |
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| 09:59.58 | flower | I did an debian lenny netinstall, now I want to upgrade to testing and install an desktop environment, but I got problems with updating udev. It fails |
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| 10:00.49 | flower | first upgrade your kernel it says |
| 10:01.03 | flower | afaik I did install the *.32 kernel |
| 10:02.36 | dark | stonedslacker, "today" here :P 7am |
| 10:03.05 | dark | flower, i has this very same problem |
| 10:03.16 | dark | flower, the right way is to do safe-upgrade first |
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| 10:03.25 | dark | !lenny->squeeze |
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| 10:03.40 | dark | !squeeze |
| 10:03.41 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the next release, Debian GNU/Linux 6.0. It is the three-eyed space alien. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/09/msg00000.html Ask me about <testing>. Not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze. See also <squeeze kernel>. |
| 10:03.51 | stonedslacker | Yeah, 5am here so I guess it's day here too lol |
| 10:04.04 | dark | flower, then a command i forgot :x |
| 10:04.11 | dark | flower, dist-upgrade is going to be deprecated |
| 10:04.26 | jelly | dark: factoids with -> for some reason do not appear when ! in channel is used, use /msg or !tell someone about stuff |
| 10:04.37 | jelly | !squeeze udev |
| 10:04.37 | dpkg | As of <udev> 150 in squeeze, Linux kernel 2.6.27 or newer is required (i.e. upgrade kernel and udev at the same time). If udev installation fails and you already have a squeeze kernel installed, then reboot into the new kernel and "aptitude -f install ; aptitude safe-upgrade" to continue. <squeeze kernel> <kernel abi> |
| 10:04.57 | dark | :) I think the next step would be full-upgrade (in the new kernel?) |
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| 10:05.16 | flower | mmh reboot I think |
| 10:05.17 | jelly | judd: kernels |
| 10:05.19 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 2.6.32-2-686 (2.6.32-8); squeeze: 2.6.32-trunk-686 (2.6.32-5); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.2-vserver-686 (2.6.32-8~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-21lenny3); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch1); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch1) |
| 10:05.21 | dark | hmmm "and you already have a squeeze kernel installed" |
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| 10:05.29 | dark | to install it you will need the udev |
| 10:05.32 | dark | or, a force? |
| 10:06.04 | dark | flower, the way I solved here: udev actually says that if you touch a /etc/somefile, it will install nicely |
| 10:06.20 | flower | what is the difference between a 'normal' kernel and the one with 'trunk' in its name? |
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| 10:06.36 | dark | i would like to know too |
| 10:08.52 | Autoscum | Hey, is anyone familiar with JACK Audio? I can't really find any bug reports on their website and their channel remains silent |
| 10:09.15 | jelly | !kernel abi |
| 10:09.15 | dpkg | Debian kernel packages have an <ABI> to indicate when out-of-tree modules must be rebuilt; upgrading from a package with 2.6.26-1-686 to another 2.6.26-1-686 doesn't require fglrx/nvidia/etc to be rebuilt, but upgrading from 2.6.26-1-686 to 2.6.26-2-686 does. Development kernels have the ABI "trunk" to indicate the ABI is unmanaged and you probably need to rebuild out-of-tree modules every time you upgrade the kernel package. |
| 10:09.43 | jelly | flower, dark ^^ |
| 10:10.39 | dark | :) |
| 10:12.00 | flower | :) |
| 10:12.10 | flower | how do I upgrade to grub2? |
| 10:12.16 | flower | I have now grub-lecacy |
| 10:12.17 | stonedslacker | Any of you guys know anything about open office calc? The spreadsheet app. |
| 10:12.52 | flower | !grub2 |
| 10:12.52 | dpkg | [grub2] GNU GRUB 2 is the successor to GRUB Legacy (GNU GRUB version 0.9x). In development, little documentation at present. Packaged as grub-pc (PC/BIOS version) and grub-ieee1275 (OpenFirmware version). http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-2.en.html. Command list comparison: http://grub.enbug.org/CommandList . See also http://wiki.debian.org/GrubTransition , <grub2 squeeze>, <grub2 config>. #grub on irc.freenode.net. |
| 10:13.13 | flower | !grub2 squeeze |
| 10:13.13 | dpkg | The squeeze installers install GRUB 2 (grub-pc) on x86 by default; see http://meetbot.debian.net/debian-boot/2009/debian-boot.2009-09-21-20.00.log.html for more. Don't want it? Boot in expert mode and don't elect to install GRUB 2, or install the grub-legacy package after installation. http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/GRUB2asDefault |
| 10:14.13 | dark | i had to do some commands, after upgrading |
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| 10:50.10 | mkadu | Hi, is it possible to install Debian inside Windows guest account ? |
| 10:51.21 | mkad | Hi, is it possible to install Debian inside Windows guest account ? |
| 10:51.37 | azeem_ | mkad: what does that mean? |
| 10:51.52 | azeem_ | mkad: Debian is an operating system, not an application |
| 10:51.52 | mkad | I am looking for virtual machine that I can install Linux on |
| 10:52.12 | mkad | but I have only guess account stupid university policy |
| 10:52.21 | mkad | and I cant install anything |
| 10:52.39 | azeem_ | so you are asking whether you can run a virtual machine from your university account? |
| 10:53.24 | mkad | azeem_ I need R to work, I am asking how to install Linux or Debian on computer without administator account, possibly by some virtual machine application or other emulation that does not need installation over entire system |
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| 10:53.34 | mkad | azeem_ but I guess such as does not exist? |
| 10:53.45 | cast | mkad: sounds easy, use user-mode-linux |
| 10:54.30 | azeem_ | mkad: how you install a GNU/Linux distribution on Windows with reduced permissions is entirely off-topic here, sorry |
| 10:55.01 | mkad | azeem_ I dont care about permisions, I need it to run R and applications |
| 10:55.41 | azeem_ | mkad: so install it |
| 10:55.47 | azeem_ | we can't help you with Windows |
| 10:55.48 | mkad | cast user mode linux is a kernel running on linux as user process |
| 10:55.57 | azeem_ | maybe there's an R version for Windows |
| 10:55.58 | mkad | cast I want to run it on windows |
| 10:56.13 | mkad | azeem_ yes there is but I cannot install anything |
| 10:56.23 | azeem_ | mkad: then it seems you're out of luck |
| 10:56.25 | themill | mkad: ##windows is likely to be of more assistance in working out how you can get an appropriate VM running in windows. |
| 10:56.30 | mkad | azeem_ even if I ask administrator to do that, then I cant install packages for R |
| 10:56.33 | azeem_ | maybe ask your university admin to install R for you |
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| 10:57.20 | mkad | azeem_ easies would probably we ask them to install virtualbox |
| 10:57.45 | azeem_ | mkad: whatever, please drop it now |
| 10:57.48 | mkad | azeem_ but it took 4 months for them to create account for me |
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| 11:04.06 | rag | hello i have problems to activate squeeze repo, for install php 5.2.12, any suggest, thx |
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| 11:04.32 | azeem_ | rag: pastebin the error message |
| 11:04.33 | azeem_ | !paste |
| 11:04.33 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>. |
| 11:04.37 | stonedslacker | So, now openoffice freaks in here? Imma gonna ask anyway. The app is openoffice calc btw. One of my fields is the sum of 25 other fields. I was wondering if there was some way I could give some of these fields an attribute of some kind, some kinda of on/off switch so to speak, that would exclude that field from being included in the total sum. |
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| 11:05.26 | Kamping_Kaiser | isuggest not mixing repos |
| 11:05.30 | Kamping_Kaiser | gone |
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| 11:05.46 | jariq | How can i upgrade lenny to sid ? |
| 11:06.15 | azeem_ | jariq: if you have to ask, you shouldn't |
| 11:06.26 | azeem_ | sid is not supported here |
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| 11:08.42 | stonedslacker | Would that even be considered an upgrade? |
| 11:09.07 | jariq | i need to test my package on sid |
| 11:09.28 | jariq | i tried to modify apt sources.list and do dist-upgrade but too many packages failed |
| 11:09.32 | azeem_ | jariq: then create a sid chroot |
| 11:09.41 | azeem_ | and test in there |
| 11:09.44 | azeem_ | is it a GUI app? |
| 11:09.50 | jariq | daemon |
| 11:10.04 | azeem_ | might work |
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| 11:10.38 | stonedslacker | Can't you just apt-get ugrade-dist ? |
| 11:10.48 | azeem_ | stonedslacker: 12:05 < azeem_> sid is not supported here |
| 11:11.01 | azeem_ | stonedslacker: if you want to help, please also support any follow-up questions |
| 11:11.48 | stonedslacker | I know, I saw. I'm not trying to help. Have you seen some of the basic questions I've had to ask in here? I was really curious, is it that easy or not? |
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| 11:12.00 | azeem_ | what? |
| 11:12.11 | stonedslacker | To 'upgrade' to sid. |
| 11:12.14 | azeem_ | I didn't see you asking any questions except for the OOo ting |
| 11:12.16 | azeem_ | thing* |
| 11:12.20 | azeem_ | stonedslacker: 12:10 < azeem_> stonedslacker: 12:05 < azeem_> sid is not supported here |
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| 11:12.53 | stonedslacker | lol, okay, sorry about that. |
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| 11:13.51 | vaq | Is there a way to change so that when users mysql connect to "localhost" it's not through sock file? I moved my sql server to another remote server and I don't want to change all users cfg files so i did a iptables redirect for 3306 to the remote servers IP address. But mysql connections to localhost are trying sock, why? |
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| 11:21.04 | xushi | hi all |
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| 11:21.20 | xushi | i've disabled the auto-fsck on boot because of the amount of 1TB disks I have, and the fact that it almost always does them all together, taking a whole day.. That said, I'd like to manually fsck them every now and then.. What's the best prefix to use when doing so? -fpv ? |
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| 11:22.01 | superlinux | hi. I have a website that shows the whois output different than if i used the whois command in Linux. what would be the reason? |
| 11:22.11 | Stereo | xushi: you could switch to xfs, which doesn't require those frequent fscks |
| 11:22.22 | R1ck | superlinux: difference in used whois servers |
| 11:22.35 | superlinux | i meant as in : whois www.yahoo.com |
| 11:22.42 | rag | azeem_ error is in spanish :( , its say sources.list cannot support more lines packages or something like that |
| 11:22.49 | rag | azeem_, thx |
| 11:22.51 | xushi | Stereo: one of my future projects is to switch actually.. But the amount of data I have and the fact that they're 95% full makes it difficult for now.. So until then, I'd like to know the best prefix to use |
| 11:23.19 | azeem_ | rag: then export LANG=C before you run the command |
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| 11:23.29 | azeem_ | then it should be in english, then pastebin |
| 11:23.50 | superlinux | R1ck, what i exactly used is : whois some_IP |
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| 11:24.28 | F15ch3r | hello |
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| 11:24.39 | xushi | also, forgot to mention, i'm on ext3 at the moment |
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| 11:27.44 | simonrvn | i'm on my chair |
| 11:28.47 | F15ch3r | when I want to shutdown integrated sound ! and simply allow my sound card to function ! because when I play a sound I can hear it twice from my headphone and from the case ! |
| 11:29.02 | cast | i run lenny but need .31<= to use my eth, if i grab .32 src from sid and did a simple sid backport, would things likely be smooth? |
| 11:30.10 | cast | ahh, its gone into bpo today! |
| 11:30.12 | cast | sweet. |
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| 11:30.57 | pentanol | hey, anybody here use freeradius? which version 1. or 2. ? |
| 11:33.14 | cast | linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.2-vserver-686 most excellent \m/ |
| 11:34.10 | rag | azeem_, i added http://ftp.es.debian.org squeeze/main on my sources.list, run export, and update |
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| 11:34.39 | azeem_ | rag: and...? |
| 11:35.14 | rag | azeem_, and is getting the lists from the new repo , but in final appear me: W: GPG error: http://ftp.es.debian.org squeeze Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9AA38DCD55BE302B |
| 11:35.23 | R1ck | superlinux: if you specify --verbose you see which whois server is being used |
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| 11:35.51 | superlinux | R1ck, ok. good. |
| 11:36.10 | azeem_ | !archive key |
| 11:36.12 | azeem_ | hrm |
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| 11:36.22 | superlinux | R1ck, i was just confused by the info I get |
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| 11:37.25 | rag | azeem_, this W i solved it on past, but now i dont remember |
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| 11:37.45 | rag | azeem_, i question G... |
| 11:37.50 | azeem_ | rag: install the archive signing key |
| 11:37.56 | zicho | how do i upgrade to debian testing? |
| 11:38.07 | azeem_ | apt-get install debian-archive-keyring |
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| 11:40.09 | rag | azeem_, go |
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| 11:43.27 | rag | azeem_, uf a lot of dependencies |
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| 11:48.40 | xushi | so is fsck -fpv a good prefix to use ? |
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| 11:53.08 | zicho | how do i upgrade to debian testing? |
| 11:53.41 | ewet | I want to install tracks on a debian system. apache is already installed because of drupal (via apt). now I see the apache config is splitted into dozens of files.. so what has become the canoical way to configure apache under debian? is there a script or do I have to create a handfull of files myself? |
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| 11:54.27 | pierre_le | zicho, edit your source.list, use squeeze. then update+upgrade |
| 11:54.37 | rudi_s | !testing |
| 11:54.38 | dpkg | it has been said that testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <squeeze>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <lenny->squeeze> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging to use testing and should be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on ... |
| 11:54.46 | rudi_s | zicho: ^ |
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| 11:57.45 | zicho | pierre_le, whats "squeeze"? |
| 11:58.02 | zicho | is it the testing distribution? |
| 11:58.14 | pierre_le | yes it is |
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| 11:58.37 | rudi_s | Until it gets frozen and becomes the new stable. |
| 11:58.54 | zicho | so i should put squeeze instead of lenny? |
| 11:59.40 | soulchild | Can I only have a IRC connection to more than one server, without running my client multiple times ? (irssi or konversation) |
| 12:00.12 | pierre_le | zicho, echo "deb http://agoodmirror.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main non-free contrib" > /etc/apt/sources.list;apt-get update,apt-get upgrade |
| 12:00.18 | wols | soulchild: /connect <server hostname> |
| 12:00.28 | wols | irssi can have unlimited amount of connections |
| 12:00.29 | amphi | soulchild: certainly in irssi; use /connect rather than /server |
| 12:00.56 | lsd | does anybody have some inside info about approximate release date of lenny 5.0.5? |
| 12:01.06 | wols | !tell lsd about wir |
| 12:01.31 | soulchild | wols: amphi: ahhh maybe that's the problem, it always disconnects the previous one, when I use the server command |
| 12:01.42 | lsd | even approximate? |
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| 12:01.49 | lsd | <6 months? |
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| 12:02.37 | collabra | pierre_le : dont you mean apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 12:03.04 | pierre_le | yes i do mean that |
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| 12:04.38 | mix22891 | hello. i can't access as a root |
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| 12:06.01 | mix22891 | any1? |
| 12:06.08 | rudi_s | zicho: Yes. |
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| 12:07.09 | soulchild | switched to konversation |
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| 12:07.35 | mix22891 | any help here? |
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| 12:08.45 | soulchild | mix22891: more onfo would be great |
| 12:08.49 | soulchild | *info |
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| 12:09.28 | mix22891 | im the root and i can't access as root |
| 12:09.54 | soulchild | access what ? |
| 12:10.05 | mix22891 | as a root |
| 12:10.13 | soulchild | but you said, you are root |
| 12:10.19 | mix22891 | yes |
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| 12:10.44 | soulchild | where do you try to become root? at login? |
| 12:11.01 | soulchild | at the login manager ? |
| 12:11.01 | mix22891 | there is a root and 1user in the list |
| 12:11.13 | mix22891 | yes at login |
| 12:11.19 | soulchild | i think, root is locked for graphical logins |
| 12:11.30 | mix22891 | why? |
| 12:11.40 | soulchild | try switching to tty1 by pressing ctrl+alt+F1 and login as root there |
| 12:11.46 | lazy^ | Hello, I'm having problems when i'm trying to connect to our companys corporate wlan with gnome-network-manager, it wont let me press apply .. |
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| 12:14.29 | wols | mix22891: cause root should not run a X sessions. instead, you login as a user and become root for a single process/xterm |
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| 12:18.13 | mix22891 | umm.. |
| 12:19.18 | mix22891 | root dsnt have grafic? |
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| 12:20.24 | soulchild | mix22891: You can make root access graphically, but it is not recommended |
| 12:20.47 | soulchild | You can make a user become root temperory by the command sudo |
| 12:21.15 | soulchild | damn how to you spell temperorly ? |
| 12:22.16 | rvsjoen | temporarily |
| 12:23.00 | soulchild | rvsjoen: that's quiet hard to spell... |
| 12:23.29 | rvsjoen | quite |
| 12:23.29 | NotInternat | quite :P |
| 12:23.31 | NotInternat | snap |
| 12:23.32 | rvsjoen | :) |
| 12:23.36 | wols | or it could be you're a sucky speller :P |
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| 12:24.22 | soulchild | wols: maybe I am |
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| 12:25.15 | rvsjoen | any wise words as to why my numpad stopped working ? |
| 12:25.29 | mix22891 | how do i give myself pramisions? |
| 12:25.36 | rvsjoen | permissions to do what |
| 12:25.44 | mix22891 | anything |
| 12:25.57 | rvsjoen | you become root |
| 12:26.11 | zleap | hi |
| 12:26.11 | rvsjoen | or use sudo, like soulchild told you |
| 12:26.55 | zleap | just installed a 2nd hard disk, what do i type to list the device, |
| 12:26.59 | zleap | its a primary slave, |
| 12:27.26 | rvsjoen | fdisk -l /dev/hdb (for IDE) |
| 12:27.30 | mix22891 | i don't know how to use the root in non-grafic mode |
| 12:28.00 | rvsjoen | sdb for SATA |
| 12:28.12 | zleap | hmm |
| 12:28.25 | rvsjoen | mix22891: maybe if you try explaining exactly what you are trying to do |
| 12:28.41 | zleap | my devices (ide) seem to be listed as /dev/sda1 for for the main drive |
| 12:28.50 | rvsjoen | mix22891: playing around as root unless you know what you are doing is generally not a good idea |
| 12:29.15 | rvsjoen | zleap: anything after sda is a partition number, sda1 means the first partition on the disk |
| 12:29.16 | DasEi | mix22891: ctr-alt-F1 > too tty, then login , then sudo your cmd's |
| 12:29.37 | DasEi | mix22891: ctr-alt-F7 to go back in x |
| 12:29.42 | mix22891 | i want only root will be in this computer (no users) |
| 12:29.46 | zleap | ok so sdb seems to be a flash drive |
| 12:29.56 | mix22891 | that can be? |
| 12:29.59 | DasEi | mix22891: security issue, then |
| 12:30.38 | rvsjoen | mix22891: seriously, just use sudo for whatever you need to do as root |
| 12:30.39 | mix22891 | security what? |
| 12:30.41 | DasEi | mix22891: it could be, but I won't tell you how |
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| 12:31.07 | mix22891 | why not? |
| 12:31.55 | zleap | ok according to lshw i get logical name: /dev/sdb |
| 12:31.56 | DasEi | mix22891: only root is allowed to change systems config, and this is why this account is protected, though evn a user account can trick that, but it's an extra layer |
| 12:32.10 | zleap | so i take it, i need to mount /dev/sdb |
| 12:32.31 | mix22891 | im the root lol |
| 12:32.43 | rvsjoen | zleap: probably |
| 12:32.57 | DasEi | mix22891: f.e. you don't want root to run ff |
| 12:33.14 | mix22891 | run ff? |
| 12:33.19 | DasEi | firefox |
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| 12:34.38 | mix22891 | do root have grafic mode? |
| 12:34.57 | DasEi | mix22891: if one of te endless flaws hits you, a coder will once have full access to your system without any second and third line barrier can act |
| 12:34.59 | wols | mix22891: nonsensical question |
| 12:35.05 | dbbolton_ | what is the proper way to mount a floppy disk in writeable mode? |
| 12:35.16 | wols | you can start X as root, but as you've been told, you are not supposed to do that |
| 12:35.17 | DasEi | mix22891: yes, f.e. terminal in x-window |
| 12:35.28 | wols | !tell dbbolton_ about vfatrw |
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| 12:35.47 | zophy | is there a program that will verify all the binaries and libs installed on my system to the md5sum's of an official debian repository ? |
| 12:36.00 | wols | mix22891: and you can easily start programs (while you are in X) as root |
| 12:36.07 | wols | e.g. a natuilus instance that runs as root |
| 12:36.20 | DasEi | zophy: apt does this by itself when installing |
| 12:36.21 | mix22891 | what is x |
| 12:36.49 | wols | X is the graphical user interface of Debina Linux |
| 12:36.50 | DasEi | the xserver, the windowsystem, mix22891 |
| 12:36.51 | wols | !X |
| 12:37.02 | dbbolton_ | wols: tried that- http://paste.debian.net/60476/ |
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| 12:37.33 | wols | dbbolton_: is the floppy write protected? |
| 12:38.04 | mix22891 | can i have only root that be in the computer? |
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| 12:38.05 | dbbolton_ | wols: the safety tab is unlocked. i also tried it in both positions to make sure. |
| 12:38.14 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:38.23 | dbbolton_ | wols: i have also tried different disks |
| 12:38.24 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:39.48 | mix22891 | and delete the one user that have? |
| 12:41.27 | wols | mix22891: you can and it's stupid to do so |
| 12:41.37 | wols | mix22891: not even windows will do this anymore |
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| 12:42.11 | zxcvbs | alguien sabe que esta cobrando iplan en planes asicronicos? |
| 12:42.18 | wols | !es |
| 12:42.18 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 12:48.13 | mix22891 | wen i sudo it won't let me install . even i have the root pwd |
| 12:48.44 | wols | sudo doesn't need the root password. it wants YOUR password |
| 12:48.45 | rvsjoen | you dont use the root password with sudo |
| 12:48.51 | wols | and you need to configure sudo first before it works |
| 12:48.53 | rvsjoen | bleh |
| 12:49.04 | wols | !wayttd mix22891 |
| 12:49.05 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, mix22891? |
| 12:49.59 | mix22891 | why to configure sudo? wols |
| 12:50.40 | wols | cause otherwise it will not work. sudo doesn't know magically which user should have which priviledges |
| 12:50.55 | wols | !tell mix22891 about sudo |
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| 12:51.21 | wols | mix22891: debian is NOT ubuntu. there is not default sudo, but there is a root account |
| 12:52.04 | mix22891 | yes. i come over from ubuntu |
| 12:52.34 | wols | in debian, "su -i" works out of the box, when in ubuntu does not |
| 12:52.47 | wols | in contrast, you have to configure sudo while in ubuntu you don't |
| 12:53.10 | wols | "su -" rather |
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| 13:01.09 | xushi | -r-x---r-x <--- is this 505 ? |
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| 13:01.33 | mix22891 | how do i config sudo? |
| 13:01.57 | xushi | mix22891: /etc/sudoers |
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| 13:02.25 | DasEi | mix22891: man visudo |
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| 13:05.36 | mix22891 | how do i give prommision in sudo to a user? |
| 13:06.00 | xushi | full permission? as root? |
| 13:06.05 | mix22891 | yes |
| 13:06.11 | mix22891 | :-D |
| 13:06.17 | mix22891 | :P |
| 13:06.18 | xushi | i think, add a second line under rootALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 13:06.24 | xushi | but replace root with the username |
| 13:06.36 | mquin | 113 |
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| 13:06.44 | mix22891 | step by step please. im new to debian |
| 13:07.31 | oggei | man sudoers it's perfectly the same on other unices, too |
| 13:08.50 | xushi | since it's the same on other distros, and since you want a step-by-step, try this, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/sudo-guide.xml |
| 13:08.50 | sep | mix22891, you run the command visudo to edit sudo. do not edit /etc/sudoers yourself |
| 13:11.42 | mix22891 | (15:06:15) mix22891: :P |
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| 13:11.42 | mix22891 | (15:06:18) xushi: i think, add a second line under rootALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 13:11.42 | mix22891 | (15:06:24) xushi: but replace root with the username |
| 13:11.42 | mix22891 | (15:06:35) mquin: 113 |
| 13:11.42 | mix22891 | (15:06:40) collabra [~collabra@c-24-22-90-7.hsd1.or.comcast.net] × ×× ×¡ ×××ר. |
| 13:11.42 | mix22891 | (15:06:40) Marlonius [~marlon@41.145.147.132] × ×× ×¡ ×××ר. |
| 13:11.42 | mix22891 | (15:06:43) mix22891: step by step please. im new to debian |
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| 13:13.22 | themill | dpkg: tell mix22891 about paste |
| 13:13.30 | oggei | mix22819 ××××. |
| 13:13.36 | oggei | ah, ops :P |
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| 13:15.56 | fluorine | is there a way to tell gnu screen to use ctrl+{left/right} instead of alt+{left/right}? |
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| 13:17.05 | dbbolton_ | how can i find out what kind of filesystem a device is? |
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| 13:17.21 | xreal | We're sharing a server with several people. Is there a way to detect a time, where no process is active for aprox. 10 minutes? |
| 13:17.23 | amol112 | hi all is there any way while typing command on termial all related command should apper down ,other that TAB button.i am looking like IDE kind of stuff |
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| 13:17.56 | jelly | xreal: you'd have to define what "no process is active" mean |
| 13:17.59 | jelly | means* |
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| 13:18.13 | xreal | jelly: Somthing like CPU-usage is less than 10% in total. |
| 13:18.33 | themill | fluorine: bindkey "^[[1;5D" prev bindkey "^[[1;5C" next |
| 13:18.36 | amol112 | dbbolton_, using fdisk -l |
| 13:18.40 | fluorine | themill: alsome. danke danke. |
| 13:18.51 | jelly | xreal: you might want to consider the 5 and 15 minutes load averages |
| 13:18.55 | jelly | !laodavg |
| 13:18.58 | jelly | !loadavg |
| 13:18.59 | dpkg | i heard load average is the number of processes that are either in a "runnable" (waiting for CPU) or uninterruptable state, averaged over time. It's like the number of people in line at the checkout. It's possible to have a high load average with low CPU utilization if systems are waiting for other resources, eg: I/O, network socket responses. |
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| 13:19.13 | fluorine | whoa, why didn't dpkg output the 2nd time? |
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| 13:19.21 | jelly | xreal: those numbers that "uptime" command reports |
| 13:19.29 | xreal | jelly: Let me see. |
| 13:19.39 | dbbolton_ | amol112: not a hard drive, a floppy device |
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| 13:20.09 | xreal | jelly: current load average: 7.19, 6.67, 6.35 |
| 13:20.18 | amol112 | jelly, is it possible to get inbuild functionality in terminal for typing command all related command should get as a drop down and select from that using arrow button ..as similar to java IDe |
| 13:20.18 | NotInternat | maybe its smart enough to know that it recently outputted that |
| 13:20.20 | xreal | jelly: htop says: 3 cores are 100% |
| 13:20.32 | jelly | xreal: if they're less that 0.1 * number-of-cpu-cores, that approximately means what you wanted (over 1, 5 and 15 minutes respectively) |
| 13:20.49 | xreal | ah okay! |
| 13:20.53 | xreal | thanks for help |
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| 13:21.43 | NotInternat | thats a mirc setting? |
| 13:21.45 | NotInternat | err |
| 13:21.46 | NotInternat | wrong window |
| 13:21.53 | jelly | amol112: I have no idea what Java IDEs do... |
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| 13:23.25 | jelly | amol112: bash and zsh shells can have complex completion rules and at least zsh can provide a simple menu for completions. You might have to program that functionality yourself/ |
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| 13:23.31 | Aprogas | Do I understand correctly that memory in use as "cache" according to vmstat, can be considered as free memory too? In other words, if other processes need more active memory, will cache be automatically reduced? |
| 13:23.41 | fluorine | themill: ok i spoke too soon. that wasn't what i meant. |
| 13:23.41 | jelly | Aprogas: yes |
| 13:24.10 | Aprogas | I am trying to understand why top claims 1.3 GB memory is in use, while an awk summing all RSS column of ps auxww lists only 400 MB in use. |
| 13:24.25 | amol112 | jelly, you mean i have to edit bash |
| 13:24.57 | wols | !tell Aprogas about free |
| 13:25.12 | jelly | amol112: you'd have to configure the completion to do what you want. I'm not sure where would you get the data about "related commands" from, perhaps man pages. |
| 13:25.27 | fluorine | themill: /etc/inputrc has ctrl+left/right bound to backward-word/forward-word...everything works fine in bash, but i lose this functionality in screen... |
| 13:25.37 | jelly | amol112: not sure what you mean by "edit bash" |
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| 13:27.23 | Aprogas | "free" claims about 800 M of buffers/cache in use, vmstat only 500 M cache and 0 buff |
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| 13:27.46 | Aprogas | Could you help me understand the difference, without me needing to understand inner workings of memory management in Linux kernel? |
| 13:29.37 | themill | fluorine: that's no different to my setup. Don't know then... |
| 13:30.08 | fluorine | themill: i think i found the problem. what's your HOME/.inputrc? |
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| 13:31.00 | jelly | Aprogas: pastebin the output of free |
| 13:31.42 | Aprogas | I think I misread the free output, I'll pastebin it. |
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| 13:32.44 | jaundice | anyone here able to help me configure PAM/SAMBA to work with Active Directory, I have got through configuring krb5 and joined the domain successfully, however I cannot access a samba share with an AD identity |
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| 13:33.35 | Aprogas | jelly: http://pastebin.ca/1802619 |
| 13:33.51 | tomiondrums | I'm also having samba and kerberos problems but I even didn't get that far |
| 13:34.24 | jaundice | tomiondrums.. I followed several tutorials and most of them are full of FAIL |
| 13:34.36 | jaundice | let me find the one that got me the furthest/.. one sec |
| 13:35.19 | tomiondrums | i know what you mean :-| |
| 13:36.29 | jelly | Aprogas: cached and buffers columns of free seem to match vmstat output |
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| 13:37.19 | jaundice | tomiondrums https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto was quite helpful |
| 13:37.23 | tomiondrums | I'm currently trying to connect locally to my pdc using smbclient //smbpdc/profiles -W mydomain.de -k -d 10 -U Administrator |
| 13:37.37 | tomiondrums | and i'm getting a stange error |
| 13:38.35 | tomiondrums | it says ads_krb5_mk_req: krb5_cc_get_principal failed (No credentials cache found) |
| 13:38.53 | Aprogas | jelly: What exactly does ps auxww output in RSS column? I thought that was kilobytes of real physical RAM used by that process. That only adds up to about 400 M |
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| 13:39.05 | jaundice | tomiondrums try kinit -U somedomainuser |
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| 13:40.04 | tomiondrums | kinit doesn't expect the -U parameter |
| 13:40.18 | tomiondrums | i guess you meant simply kinit somedomuser |
| 13:40.22 | jelly | Aprogas: it's, let's say, private memory for a particular process |
| 13:41.02 | jaundice | tomiondrums yes sorry.. I was thinking net join -U susername which is the next step |
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| 13:42.06 | tomiondrums | that doesn't work since there's no kerberos-principal yet |
| 13:42.20 | Aprogas | jelly: So shared libraries etc. make up for the rest of the usage? |
| 13:42.30 | jelly | Aprogas: yes |
| 13:42.44 | Aprogas | That explains everything, and with 750 MB "free" I don't have to worry. |
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| 13:50.30 | pif | hi, I'm looking for a fanless pc with hdmi output to use as pvr (to install debian of course), any suggestions? |
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| 13:57.10 | sayanriju | Is it possible to generate a package download script (like synaptic does), but exclusively from the command line? |
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| 13:58.48 | rudi_s | sayanriju: apt-zip |
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| 13:59.54 | jaundice | could anyone share a working /etc/pam.d/common-auth for a working AD integration? |
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| 14:02.16 | tomiondrums | jaundice: wouldn't it be sufficient to have winbind in your /etc/nsswitch.conf ? |
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| 14:03.07 | jaundice | tomiondrums I have it there.. but I cannot log in yet.. |
| 14:03.21 | jaundice | is a real noob |
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| 14:03.33 | tomiondrums | what does getent passwd say? |
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| 14:04.03 | anoobisa | Hi I would need some advice |
| 14:04.18 | tomiondrums | is your windows user among your local users? |
| 14:04.22 | jaundice | tomiondrums that gives a list of unix logons |
| 14:04.46 | jaundice | wbinfo -u and wbinfo -g includes domain users and groups though |
| 14:05.07 | tomiondrums | jaundice: and your AD-users aren't among them? |
| 14:05.12 | anoobisa | I am building up a rootserver using debian for hosting and mail for a smal portion of users |
| 14:05.26 | tomiondrums | is your winbindd running? |
| 14:05.31 | jaundice | tomiondrums not in getent passwd |
| 14:05.48 | anoobisa | I am using apache2 as webserver with modsecurity and postfix for MTA and dovecot as IMAP |
| 14:06.29 | anoobisa | My question is: what is the prefered way to handle users? Put them in /home/ |
| 14:06.29 | jaundice | tomiondrums it is running but no AD users in getent |
| 14:06.48 | anoobisa | or in some other location? |
| 14:07.21 | tomiondrums | jaundice: it seems that winbindd is misconfigured then |
| 14:07.49 | tomiondrums | jaundice: but i don't have any experience with that |
| 14:07.55 | jaundice | tomiondrums I did install likewise and that showed connectivity even when in reality there was none |
| 14:08.02 | jaundice | maybe I should get rid of it |
| 14:08.33 | tomiondrums | jaundice: i have no idea of likewise |
| 14:08.46 | wols | anoobisa: you can use system users or virtual users. your choice |
| 14:09.02 | jaundice | tomiondrums it looked at the start like a winner.. but |
| 14:09.05 | jaundice | .. |
| 14:09.37 | anoobisa | wols: which is better to handle |
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| 14:09.49 | tomiondrums | jaundice: ... but then it makes you come back to good old samba, right? |
| 14:09.55 | jaundice | right |
| 14:10.00 | wols | !better |
| 14:10.00 | dpkg | i guess better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
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| 14:10.02 | jaundice | though I havent found the good yet |
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| 14:10.14 | tomiondrums | ;-) |
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| 14:10.50 | anoobisa | wols: currently I have my users at /opt/users also running an sftp |
| 14:11.12 | wols | how does ssh auth them? |
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| 14:11.19 | jaundice | tomiondrums to be fair samba runs on my nas box at home with no trouble.. it is just the carcrash interface between AD and linux that hurts |
| 14:11.33 | anoobisa | wols: they are sys users |
| 14:11.38 | wols | and having users, any users in /opt/users is just awful |
| 14:12.00 | anoobisa | wols that is my question |
| 14:12.12 | anoobisa | wols would you move them to /home |
| 14:12.34 | wols | the question is how and why did you create them in /opt in the first place? |
| 14:13.51 | anoobisa | wols cause i have not quite grasped the idea behind users in linux |
| 14:14.29 | anoobisa | wols but now setting up postfix I do understand that every user should sorta have its home, and that is what I also want to backup in the future, correct? |
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| 14:15.55 | wols | no, not every user has a home. and creating a user in /opt requires realy doing by you. that's not automatic |
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| 14:16.52 | wols | e.g. a howto for virtual users for mail is http://workaround.org/ispmail/lenny |
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| 14:17.24 | do0ob | wols: how do i file a bug against grub? |
| 14:17.56 | do0ob | not grub the application, but the way it has been packaged, one of the update scripts is broken |
| 14:17.59 | anoobisa | wols: assuming that a user is a client that wants hosting and email and sftp, it would make sense to give it a home, right? |
| 14:18.12 | abrotman | do0ob: unstable ? |
| 14:18.23 | do0ob | abrotman: yes |
| 14:18.32 | abrotman | do0ob: did you check the BTS to see if it's already been filed ? |
| 14:18.59 | wols | anoobisa: yes. with the amount you know, you shouldn't provide hosting for users, sorry |
| 14:19.53 | anoobisa | wols: I am not doing it yet :-) I am learning, but I want to have it scalable |
| 14:19.58 | abrotman | do0ob: i can't imagine you're the first .. hasn't been a new one uploaded for a few days |
| 14:20.06 | wols | virtual users are more scalable |
| 14:20.27 | anoobisa | wols are we talking postfix or systemwide |
| 14:20.42 | wols | there is no such thing as a system wide virtual user |
| 14:21.00 | anoobisa | well system user then .. |
| 14:21.06 | wols | but someone you want to give hosting doesn't need to be a systemwide user anyways |
| 14:21.40 | anoobisa | wols right |
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| 14:23.28 | anoobisa | wols I have sftp and my virtualhosts setup and running but now I want to intruduce mail via postfix and dovecot. http://holl.co.at/howto-email/ |
| 14:23.32 | do0ob | abrotman: i don't know what search terms to use, let me describe the bug |
| 14:23.45 | abrotman | do0ob: bugs.debian.org/grub-pc might be a good start ? |
| 14:24.10 | do0ob | abrotman: i'm pretty sure its a long standing bug |
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| 14:24.43 | abrotman | do0ob: then explain |
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| 14:26.55 | do0ob | in /etc/default/grub i have GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="loglevel=3 mce elevator=deadline memmap=1M\\\$1008M" which is written to grub.cfg as 1M\$1008M when aptitude installs a new version of grub, the \\\ messes up, it turns into 1M\$1008M, then it gets written as 1M$1008M, which then stops the system booting |
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| 14:28.49 | gothenburg | Wow everything works just fine :D |
| 14:28.52 | gothenburg | Love this |
| 14:29.11 | abrotman | do0ob: it's being escaped .. |
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| 14:42.18 | do0ob | abrotman: exactly |
| 14:42.37 | do0ob | every time you update the script the backslashes disappear |
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| 14:42.59 | gothenburg | that's not good |
| 14:42.59 | do0ob | every time you update the script in the deb packages makes the slashes disappear |
| 14:43.08 | gothenburg | http://i46.tinypic.com/14nehsi.png |
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| 14:45.02 | Farhadix | hi guys, |
| 14:45.07 | Farhadix | I have a debian that it has connected to local network that have Internet. so I made a tunnel with ssh -D PORT and use it for internet browsing. my browser configs sets on SOCKS. now I wanna other computer on this lan by setting their browser's http_proxy to my computer can use internet over ssh's tunelling. What have I do? |
| 14:45.45 | Stereo | Farhadix: they need to set your computer as a socks proxy, not http |
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| 14:45.47 | gothenburg | just SSH to that server? |
| 14:46.31 | gothenburg | or setup a proxy |
| 14:46.31 | Farhadix | yes |
| 14:46.31 | Farhadix | only ssh |
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| 14:46.54 | Farhadix | Stereo, my moblile doesn't support socks, Only http |
| 14:46.55 | Stereo | Farhadix: and -g |
| 14:47.02 | Stereo | ah |
| 14:47.11 | Stereo | maybe you could set up a squid on the other side |
| 14:47.17 | wols | Farhadix: your debian has internet and you connect some other machine to debian? and this other machine needs internet access too? if so, install ipmasq. done |
| 14:47.50 | Stereo | then ssh -CNfgL8080/remoteproxy/8080 bouncehost.farhadix.net |
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| 14:48.05 | beorn_ | hello there |
| 14:48.06 | Stereo | and tell your phone to use your local machine:8080 as a proxy |
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| 14:50.24 | Farhadix | Stereo, what is remoteproxy? my debian IP(localhost)? or server that I connect to that by ssh? |
| 14:52.25 | _Krieger_ | Hi. I've patched sources of APT, i ran cd build && ../configure && make, but i don't see how to 'make install'. I want to make .deb package. Please help. |
| 14:52.53 | wols | !tell KRF about nmg |
| 14:53.02 | wols | tell _Krieger_ about nmg |
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| 14:53.12 | wols | grah. _Krieger_ /msg dpkg nmg |
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| 14:55.53 | Stereo | Farhadix: the server that's running squid. If the host you connect to is running squid, it's localhost |
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| 14:57.48 | Sindikat | when it is planned to release squeeze? |
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| 14:59.53 | jmarsden | !wwsr |
| 14:59.54 | dpkg | Squeeze will release <WIR>, <SIYH>. No release schedule was done yet. Ask me about <squeeze bet>. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/02/msg00002.html |
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| 15:18.53 | thorben | any chroot experts around? |
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| 15:20.05 | wols | thorben: they hide from people who ask metaquestions |
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| 15:21.01 | thorben | ok, so here goes: |
| 15:21.02 | thorben | root@om-gta02 ~ $ chroot /mnt/debian /bin/dash |
| 15:21.02 | thorben | chroot: cannot execute /bin/dash: No such file or directory |
| 15:21.07 | thorben | what went wrong? |
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| 15:21.35 | abrotman | it doesn't exist ? |
| 15:21.43 | wols | !prize abrotman |
| 15:21.43 | dpkg | gives abrotman a yogi pin. |
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| 15:21.51 | abrotman | !prise wols |
| 15:21.52 | dpkg | stops wols from molesting that goat |
| 15:22.03 | thorben | abrotman: it does exist |
| 15:22.06 | wols | the goat liked it! you did, right abrotman? |
| 15:22.33 | oggei | thorben: it obviously have to exists *inside* chroot |
| 15:22.33 | wols | thorben: do all the necessary libraries dash needs exist too inside the chroot? |
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| 15:23.23 | thorben | yes yes, I even created a random executable (but empty) file to test if I could run that using chroot -> nope |
| 15:23.36 | thorben | executing the file by saying /mnt/debian/bin/foo works |
| 15:23.46 | thorben | but chroot /mnt/debian /bin/foo doesn't |
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| 15:24.52 | thorben | disclaimer: This is all on the OpenMoko Freerunner, where I would really love to put debian on. |
| 15:25.14 | abrotman | is there another valid shell ? |
| 15:25.56 | thorben | oh, AND I can run /mnt/debian/bin/bash without problem. (although that still doesn't rule out the possibility of missing libraries) |
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| 15:26.48 | ajay | hey after updating my system i'm unable to play flv files ? any solutions to this |
| 15:27.44 | ajay | i'm using testing version |
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| 15:28.02 | [Jasper] | hej guys, I'm wondering about autofs inside vps'es |
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| 15:28.08 | [Jasper] | anyone got experience with this? |
| 15:28.42 | wols | and we are wondering what your real question is. well not really, but let's just pretend, k? |
| 15:29.37 | ajay | hey after upgrading my system i'm unable to play *.flv files. Any solutions?? |
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| 15:30.07 | DuClare | ajay: Try mplayer |
| 15:30.09 | wols | ajay: check where you flash player went |
| 15:30.15 | pierre_le | ajay, vlc |
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| 15:31.01 | ajay | mplayer totem vlc nothing is playing flv now |
| 15:31.32 | LinuxGuy2009 | I need a recomendation for a webcam recorder for Lenny that allows for resolution selection. Cheese in the repos doesnt have it. I don't know if I can just install the package from testing or not or if there is a backport of it. |
| 15:31.39 | DuClare | ajay: What do they say when you try? |
| 15:31.46 | ajay | wols: how should i do that |
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| 15:32.34 | wols | ajay: I doubt vlc isn't playing flv. mplayer and vlc both have built in codecs |
| 15:32.43 | wols | what exact version of vlc do you have? |
| 15:33.04 | wols | and what is the error? |
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| 15:33.29 | LinuxGuy2009 | Does VLC have any ability to record webcam? |
| 15:33.44 | ajay | no error message but the track is added in list but no play |
| 15:33.46 | [Jasper] | wols: getting this error: getting this error: Feb 19 15:24:54 dl-sql01 automount[12237]: failed to create iautofs directory /var/autofs/backupdir |
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| 15:34.12 | ajay | version 1.0.4 |
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| 15:35.10 | wols | LinuxGuy2009: have you asked google? |
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| 15:36.31 | ajay | DuClare, no error message |
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| 15:36.49 | LinuxGuy2009 | Yes |
| 15:36.58 | LinuxGuy2009 | Still asking google |
| 15:37.23 | wols | LinuxGuy2009: then you need a better search fu. one search and it's the first hit I got |
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| 15:37.27 | wols | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143732 |
| 15:37.36 | abrotman | or just have someone do it for you ... |
| 15:37.54 | wols | abrotman: should I demand a finders fee? |
| 15:38.15 | thorben | to rule out the possibility that it is debian's fault somehow, I am going to try to chroot into some other distribution. gentoo comes to mind :P |
| 15:38.33 | ajay | any answers to my Q/ |
| 15:38.37 | ajay | ?? |
| 15:38.54 | wols | ajay: not as long as you don't answer mine |
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| 15:39.16 | wols | hint: just because you don't see an error, doesn't mean it's missing |
| 15:39.17 | ajay | wols: i think i answered u |
| 15:39.30 | wols | "think" i the operative word here |
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| 15:40.10 | ajay | wols, no error message but my track is added in the list |
| 15:40.28 | ajay | wols, version of vlc 1.0.4 |
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| 15:40.45 | LinuxGuy2009 | wols: I'm stuck on that pages directions cause my webcam doesnt seem to be listed under /dev for some reason. |
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| 15:41.02 | wols | LinuxGuy2009: then you better find out how you access the webcam |
| 15:41.19 | LinuxGuy2009 | ok |
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| 15:43.05 | LinuxGuy2009 | Strange now cheese doesnt even see it. Trying a reboot. |
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| 15:43.26 | daedaluz | LinuxGuy2009, what repository are you using? |
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| 15:43.50 | LinuxGuy2009 | My set of dvd repos. ISOs are all mounted at bootup. |
| 15:43.55 | wols | !tell LinuxGuy2009 about reboot |
| 15:44.00 | ajay | wols: ?? |
| 15:44.01 | peleg | I am a bit tired of Ubuntu, so I was seriously thinking of switching my laptop to debian as well. I have some experience with debians, but not on laptops. Do you recommend me to try that? Do you have such an experience? |
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| 15:44.23 | abrotman | peleg: i have three running Debian |
| 15:44.37 | wols | peleg: usually, acpi on ubuntu is better, especially out of the box |
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| 15:45.00 | LinuxGuy2009 | wols: Cheese works with the cam just fine. |
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| 15:45.19 | abrotman | peleg: the only i can seriously think of recently is that the iwlagn in squeeze is a bit wonky on my card, and splashy on the netbook caused some issue with reboot/pweroff |
| 15:45.21 | wols | LinuxGuy2009: that's nice but doesn't help with the problem |
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| 15:45.29 | LinuxGuy2009 | It just stopped for some reason is all. |
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| 15:45.34 | LinuxGuy2009 | Yeah no kidding. |
| 15:45.36 | [Jasper] | hej guys, I aptitude installed autofs...how can I remove it including all config files and dependencies which it came with? |
| 15:45.42 | ajay | wols : all my captured videos are in .flv and i dont wanna reboot |
| 15:45.43 | [Jasper] | not aptitude remove right? |
| 15:45.51 | wols | [Jasper]: purge it |
| 15:45.56 | LinuxGuy2009 | Reboot worked. Now Ill try VLC. |
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| 15:47.03 | peleg | and: would you recommend Lenny for that? |
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| 15:48.05 | wols | peleg: depends how old the notebook is |
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| 15:48.58 | abrotman | peleg: my old laptoper would be fine with lenny, not sure about the netbook or my newer laptop |
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| 15:50.33 | peleg | wols, what is acpi? abrotman, what is iwlagn? |
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| 15:50.42 | wols | !acpi |
| 15:50.42 | dpkg | Advanced Configuration and Power Interface -- a power management interface that gives more control to the BIOS, or horribly horribly broken, or "run this arbitrary code in ring 0", or generally better than <APM>. For a list of supported systems/BIOSes, see http://www.lesswatts.org/projects/acpi/ See also <acpid>, <suspend>. |
| 15:51.00 | wols | and iwlagn is a driver for the new intel wlan chips |
| 15:51.35 | peleg | wols, inspiron 6400. I have read this: http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Dell/Inspiron6400/lenny -- looks ok, but a bit scary (wifi, display, etc.) |
| 15:52.56 | peleg | !suspend |
| 15:52.57 | dpkg | Suspend can mean either suspend to disk (a.k.a. hibernate) or suspend to RAM. The in-kernel suspend now works pretty well in etch (and even better in lenny). There are also kernel patches that provide more features such as <tuxonice>. Installing the uswsusp and hibernate packages along with a front-end like gnome-power-manager or kpowersave should be enough. Also ask me about <suspend troubleshooting> and <swapwake>. |
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| 15:55.34 | Anthro | I'm trying to figure out how to get openssl to spit out a human-readable version of a .pem file, or a .crt file, or whatever such file I throw at it. Any pointers? |
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| 15:56.13 | Anthro | openssl verify -purpose any <file> is almost what I need, but not quite. |
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| 15:57.45 | karmatronic | hi guys |
| 15:58.25 | wols | hello babe |
| 15:58.46 | karmatronic | !squeeze |
| 15:58.46 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the next release, Debian GNU/Linux 6.0. It is the three-eyed space alien. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/09/msg00000.html Ask me about <testing>. Not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze. See also <squeeze kernel>. |
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| 16:15.25 | zafy | hi, can someone give me the typical output of uname -a for a normal and up to date stable debian lenny ? |
| 16:15.47 | rudi_s | zafy: Linux asp 2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Nov 5 02:23:12 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 16:15.57 | rettub | hi, may be a really dump question, but: can I boot an amd 64 with an 686 kernel? |
| 16:16.02 | zafy | rudi_s, thanks |
| 16:16.07 | rudi_s | np |
| 16:16.14 | zafy | ah, it's 64 bits |
| 16:16.24 | rudi_s | zafy: Yeah .. |
| 16:16.56 | tabashco | zafy: Linux tiberius 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Nov 4 20:45:37 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 16:17.05 | zafy | thanks |
| 16:17.19 | rudi_s | rettub: Yes. |
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| 16:17.27 | rettub | yeah, thx |
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| 16:17.51 | rettub | I want to upgrade board and cpu... |
| 16:18.13 | zafy | is it normal that I have the same kernel version in etch ? |
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| 16:19.57 | rudi_s | zafy: If you installed a backports kernel, yes. |
| 16:20.14 | zafy | hum |
| 16:20.17 | zafy | I guess I did then |
| 16:20.55 | rudi_s | zafy: Maybe this helps (I'm not sure if it works on etch though), it displays all backports packages: aptitude -F '%p %v#' search '~i' | grep '~bpo' |
| 16:21.08 | tabashco | judd: versions linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 16:21.09 | judd | linux-image-2.6-686 -- etch: 2.6.18+6etch3; etch-security: 2.6.18+6etch3; etch-backports: 2.6.26+17~bpo40+2; lenny: 2.6.26+17+lenny1; lenny-backports: 2.6.30+20~bpo50+1; sid: 2.6.32+23; squeeze: 2.6.32+23 |
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| 16:22.56 | zafy | rudi_s, can you also give me your output of openssl version ? |
| 16:23.11 | matju | why would the ps command ever list some users as uid and some users by name, when all of those uids are listed in /etc/passwd ? |
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| 16:23.49 | rudi_s | zafy: Sure: openssl version -> OpenSSL 0.9.8g 19 Oct 2007 |
| 16:24.14 | zafy | rudi_s, thanks, that's all I needed :) |
| 16:24.20 | rudi_s | np ;-) |
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| 16:25.51 | riot | how can i regenerate a completely new (debian-default) config directory for exim? do i have to purge exim4-*? |
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| 16:26.12 | riot | i'm having problems with the modified configuration and want to make sure its not something else |
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| 16:33.22 | LuitvD | is there a way to have the installation medium use a 2.6.32 kernel? |
| 16:33.28 | rudi_s | riot: purge and install should work (not sure if there is a better way). For the future you might want to use etckeeper which stores /etc in a git/hg/bzr/.. repository making tracking changes much easier. |
| 16:33.42 | LuitvD | I need it to get my network to work in the installer |
| 16:34.10 | wols | !tell LuitvD about kmuto |
| 16:34.18 | wols | LuitvD: why do you need a network on install time? |
| 16:34.43 | LuitvD | netinst |
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| 16:35.02 | wols | netinst doesn't need a network. only the businesscardd install does |
| 16:35.03 | LuitvD | I don't want to fetch the whole DVD medium |
| 16:35.08 | LuitvD | err... |
| 16:35.41 | rudi_s | LuitvD: |
| 16:35.59 | LuitvD | the netinst installer is compllaining about the network adapter not getting recognized |
| 16:36.23 | rudi_s | LuitvD: Just download netinst ISO and set it up, later you can copy a newer kernel (through backports for example) through a USB stick for example. |
| 16:36.43 | wols | LuitvD: or use the kmuto installer. it's a netinst installer with 2.6.32 |
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| 16:37.46 | LuitvD | okay... |
| 16:38.40 | LuitvD | can't seem to find the 'kmuto installer' though... |
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| 16:38.56 | wols | dpkg gave you a message |
| 16:38.56 | dpkg | wols: no idea |
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| 16:39.16 | wols | dpkg: shaddup |
| 16:39.16 | dpkg | No, I won't, you shaddup, you |
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| 16:41.32 | LuitvD | that's a lenny installer with 2.6.32 |
| 16:41.47 | LuitvD | great, but why aren't there any regular squeeze installers with that kernel? |
| 16:42.05 | LuitvD | isn't squeeze supposed to have 2.6.32 alltogether? |
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| 16:45.25 | riot | rudi_s: thanks for the hint! |
| 16:45.35 | rudi_s | np |
| 16:45.47 | [Jasper] | how can i see if a system is using lvm? |
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| 16:51.44 | rudi_s | LuitvD: squeeze isn't stable yet, the normal procedure is to install stable, then update to testing or unstable. |
| 16:51.55 | rudi_s | There is a place to download netinst isos for squeeze but I can't find it right now. |
| 16:52.53 | abrotman | debian.org/devel/debian-installer |
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| 16:52.58 | under | Hi all. |
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| 16:53.16 | LuitvD | rudi_s: the netinst for squeeze has 2.6.30 on it and I need .32, that's the problem |
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| 16:53.44 | rudi_s | LuitvD: Ah, I see. |
| 16:53.48 | pickcoder | I'm looking at a trial of zimbra, will the Ubuntu v6 tarball work on Lenny without a lot of headache? |
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| 16:54.54 | under | How can I add a software(s) at startup? |
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| 16:55.52 | InvaderZim | is there a way to find out which module created an interface, e.g. wlan0 ? |
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| 16:56.30 | abrotman | InvaderZim: ethtool -t .. i think |
| 16:56.53 | abrotman | LuitvD: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
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| 16:57.19 | LuitvD | abrotman: no luck with those... |
| 16:57.27 | LuitvD | it's no netinst image, AFAIK |
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| 16:58.25 | rudi_s | under: You mean start at boot? Write a init script and put it into /etc/init.d/ and configure it with update-rc.d |
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| 17:01.54 | abrotman | LuitvD: it is a netinst ... that's all kmuto makes |
| 17:02.13 | LuitvD | it's a hd-media or a netboot image |
| 17:02.15 | LuitvD | not the netinst |
| 17:02.43 | LuitvD | abrotman: though please point me to a netinst CD image if you can |
| 17:02.44 | abrotman | it's 160MB .. that's a netinst |
| 17:02.51 | LuitvD | gzipped |
| 17:02.55 | abrotman | no .. |
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| 17:03.03 | LuitvD | where? ... |
| 17:03.09 | abrotman | LuitvD: look at the page carefully, where it shows the mirrors JP/FR |
| 17:03.11 | LuitvD | geez |
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| 17:03.17 | LuitvD | I'm looking all wrong |
| 17:03.22 | LuitvD | thanks for your patience |
| 17:03.26 | abrotman | thank you, may i have another! |
| 17:04.01 | abrotman | LuitvD: just make sure you pick the right architecture that you want |
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| 17:04.33 | LuitvD | I totally didn't see the JP/FR links, I just saw the links to the hd-media and netboot versions |
| 17:04.59 | abrotman | luckily .. i have better vision :) |
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| 17:05.44 | lsd | LuitvD, what network device is it? |
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| 17:09.42 | LuitvD | Intel 82578DC |
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| 17:10.09 | manuel__ | hi |
| 17:10.17 | manuel__ | i try to get 3d with intel drivers |
| 17:10.22 | manuel__ | but no luck till now |
| 17:11.31 | manuel__ | http://pastebin.com/m1d50b0eb |
| 17:11.35 | manuel__ | my xorg log |
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| 17:19.19 | atula | I'm trying to create a blacklist in shorewall. so I created /etc/shorewall/blacklist and put an IP in there. but when I do iptables -nvL |grep <THAT_IP> nothing comes up. what am I missing/doing wrong? |
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| 17:21.20 | Ergo^ | what does it mean when i try to login to my system and i see "lockfile creation failed", no login account is working |
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| 17:23.31 | oznt | hi guys, crond starts twice at boot time, how can I disable this ? |
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| 17:28.09 | sigmonsays | Hello. Is there somewhere that shows how to package a autoconf/automake program ? |
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| 17:31.02 | eltaco | hi i get this error with tor please help http://www.pastebin.com/d97d6704 |
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| 17:32.59 | Good-maN | eltaco: maybe you have tor running twice? |
| 17:33.14 | eltaco | hi i get this error with tor please help http://www.pastebin.com/d97d6704 |
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| 17:33.39 | eltaco | no...its not running atl all |
| 17:33.55 | Good-maN | eltaco: what say netstat | grep 9050 |
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| 17:34.37 | eltaco | Good-maN: that comes up empty |
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| 17:35.04 | Good-maN | hmm okay |
| 17:36.11 | Good-maN | eltaco: kannst du mir mal die Config vom tor zeigen? |
| 17:36.37 | buntfalke | Can a user (ie, non-root) get rid of the effects of "session optional pam_motd.so" from /etc/pam.d/login if he chooses to? |
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| 17:37.18 | eltaco | Good-maN: what??? |
| 17:37.47 | Good-maN | eltaco: oops sorry can you show me the config? |
| 17:38.02 | acathur | sigmonsays: try asking in #debian-mentors on irc.debian,org |
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| 17:38.37 | sigmonsays | thanks acathur |
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| 17:42.59 | eltaco | Good-maN: where is the config file? |
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| 17:43.45 | Good-maN | eltaco: i am right you try to get tor running? |
| 17:44.35 | eltaco | yea |
| 17:45.50 | Good-maN | eltaco: and you will try it to run with privoxy or what? Have you tried with a tutorial? |
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| 17:46.44 | eltaco | Good-maN: i have this in privoxy config forward-socks4a / localhost:9050 . |
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| 17:48.45 | Good-maN | hmm and you have privoxy restarted? |
| 17:49.35 | eltaco | Good-maN: Restarting filtering proxy server: privoxy failed! |
| 17:50.19 | Good-maN | eltaco: and the log is from privoxy or tor? (sorry i have no tor running) |
| 17:50.54 | eltaco | Good-maN: I am not following what do you m ean |
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| 17:51.54 | eltaco | anyways...i will take a look at this later |
| 17:51.56 | Good-maN | eltaco: sorry i know not much about tor an privoxy. And my english sucks. i hope another can help better |
| 17:52.03 | Good-maN | eltaco: Good luck |
| 17:52.12 | eltaco | thanks for your efforts |
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| 17:56.55 | wildc4rd | evenin' all |
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| 17:58.20 | bonehead | Anyone know how to change the default file manager? |
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| 17:58.31 | rettub | does anyone have a ASRock N68-S ? It has 4 x SATAII and an ATA133 IDE connector. I want to move/upgrade debian to this board. First I want to use my old ide drives, do I have to change hd[ab] in fstab to sd[ab] ? |
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| 18:01.46 | Good-maN | rettub: maybe, maybe not. Its on the most mainboards a Bios Configuration option. |
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| 18:02.31 | wols | rettub: many IDE controllers use sda too nowadays |
| 18:02.36 | rettub | yeah, mayb, may be not :9 |
| 18:02.58 | rettub | that I'm afraid off |
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| 18:03.59 | Good-maN | rettub: sorry, the only way just try it out, you can edit with a live cd... |
| 18:05.25 | rettub | that's the problem *one* ide bus two ide-hds no place left for cd/dvd, may be I've to make an live usb-stick... |
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| 18:08.46 | Aprogas | I cannot get my dhclient to send host-name to the dhcpd, so no dynamic-dns entry is created for me. |
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| 18:10.14 | Good-maN | Aprogas: dhclient -H `hostname` maybe you must check startup script |
| 18:10.16 | al_ | would anyone here know the syntax to delete all files older than two weeks from a given directory? |
| 18:10.27 | doubletoker | anyone here know of a good daily planner application? |
| 18:10.46 | Aprogas | Good-maN: I will try that, send host-name in dhclient.conf didn't seem to have effect. |
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| 18:10.59 | abrotman | doubletoker: like for a manager or personal ? |
| 18:11.23 | doubletoker | personal and business, |
| 18:11.50 | Aprogas | My dhclient doesn't seem to have a -H option, I guess I need to update first. |
| 18:11.51 | doubletoker | like one of the daily planners you would buy in the store |
| 18:12.26 | doubletoker | organize contact info, have calendars and tasks, make list stuff like that |
| 18:12.31 | abrotman | doubletoker: many mail applications have one .. like icedove and evolution |
| 18:12.44 | Aprogas | apt-get update && apt-get upgrade should gave me the most recent dhclient, right? |
| 18:12.53 | abrotman | !why aptitude |
| 18:12.54 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often be able to come up with a solution where apt-get just gives up. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). Like apt-get, it can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line or at the Y/n/q/? prompt using its interactive resolver, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
| 18:13.05 | Titan8990_ | al_, find /path/to/dir -ctime 14 -exec rm '{}' \; --- pretty sure its correct but note that i did not test it |
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| 18:13.34 | Good-maN | Aprogas: wiat thats a complet system update |
| 18:13.44 | al_ | Titan8990 : looks about right, but shouldnt it be -mtime? |
| 18:13.50 | Aprogas | It updated 0 packages, I just installed. |
| 18:13.50 | LuciusMare | how can i exclude some package from upgrading with apt-get? |
| 18:13.57 | Good-maN | Aprogas: -H option ist just if you run dhclient from consol. Okay |
| 18:14.04 | al_ | Titan8990: -mtime is days right? |
| 18:14.11 | maligor | LuciusMare, you can pin them |
| 18:14.12 | Aprogas | My dhcp3-client is 3.1.1-6+lenny4 |
| 18:14.14 | Good-maN | Aprogas: in dhclient.conf you need send host-name "andare.fugue.com"; (something like this) |
| 18:14.15 | Titan8990_ | al_, mtime is time from last modification |
| 18:14.22 | LuciusMare | maligor: pin? and how? |
| 18:14.31 | Titan8990_ | al_, ctime is last change in the file's status, often when it was created |
| 18:14.38 | Aprogas | Good-maN: I did that, but that didn't create a dynamic-dns record, not did it show a host-name line in my dhcpd.leases on the server-side. |
| 18:14.44 | al_ | Titan8990: ahh - k |
| 18:15.00 | maligor | LuciusMare, man apt_preferences |
| 18:15.08 | Aprogas | Using -H with dhclient on the console gives me the usage info of dhclient |
| 18:15.16 | wols | !tell LuciusMare about hold |
| 18:15.22 | Good-maN | Aprogas: okay i will try it out. |
| 18:15.36 | p3rror | hello do you have any good example of ip6tables :) |
| 18:15.46 | al_ | Titan8990: one more, you sure about the ' ' around the {} |
| 18:16.04 | maligor | wols, it's not like that'd work with apt-get (but I haven't seen the tell on that) |
| 18:16.21 | wols | then I suggest you read it |
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| 18:16.35 | maligor | why? I know about hold and about pinning :P |
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| 18:16.55 | wols | you apparently don't |
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| 18:21.01 | leejongwook | i was download and manage all the .deb packages that i installed, and i finally realized that i was fool. |
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| 18:22.03 | Good-maN | Aprogas: sorry i have not enough time to try it out. maybe another have an idear or can help you to find the Problem |
| 18:22.09 | leejongwook | i'm so tired to tracking download all the dependencies of the package. i'm gonna find out easier way somehow. |
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| 18:22.40 | lsd | anyoung sayo |
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| 18:22.58 | leejongwook | anyoung :) haseyo |
| 18:23.04 | lsd | ah |
| 18:23.11 | lsd | leejongwook, what dependancies? |
| 18:23.25 | roe | can someone confirm that gnome-desktop-environment is currently foobared in squeeze? |
| 18:23.26 | Aprogas | Good-maN: Can you show me your dhcp3-client version? |
| 18:23.28 | leejongwook | package that i want ? |
| 18:23.30 | Aprogas | Good-maN: dpkg -l dhc\* |
| 18:23.34 | lsd | yeah |
| 18:24.16 | leejongwook | i'll download all the DVDs and i'll use it as my first repo :P |
| 18:24.22 | lsd | ouch |
| 18:24.24 | roe | leejongwook, did you not know about apt[itude] or were you just longing for the days before those tools existed? |
| 18:24.42 | al_ | Titan8990: I am doing something wrong |
| 18:24.48 | al_ | Titan8990: this find aint workin |
| 18:24.57 | leejongwook | roe, it takes too much times |
| 18:25.06 | roe | what is it? |
| 18:25.14 | leejongwook | so i wanted store all the files on local |
| 18:25.24 | lsd | you want a local mirror |
| 18:25.28 | lsd | apt-mirror :P |
| 18:25.30 | roe | you wanted to run a repository mirror? |
| 18:25.36 | roe | or a apt-cacher? |
| 18:25.41 | lsd | yeah, that |
| 18:25.48 | leejongwook | i use local mirror and it still takes long |
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| 18:26.01 | roe | you are not understanding what we are saying |
| 18:26.03 | Good-maN | Aprogas: i am not sure if my dhclient send the hostname so... but sure dhcp3-client 3.1.2 and the -H was a fault of me i found it on google. |
| 18:26.17 | lsd | leejongwook, by "local" we mean "on your computer" |
| 18:26.22 | leejongwook | yes :) |
| 18:26.32 | lsd | so what takes long? |
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| 18:26.38 | leejongwook | i was saving it. all deb files |
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| 18:26.40 | al_ | Titan8990: how would you make the find, only find files *.spi or *.spf? |
| 18:26.48 | leejongwook | and i reuse it |
| 18:27.01 | leejongwook | i install Debian often |
| 18:27.09 | roe | leejongwook, lookup what an 'apt-cacher' does |
| 18:27.28 | mguy | Is sshd not installed by default in 5.04 now? |
| 18:27.36 | leejongwook | i format hdd always when re-install Debian |
| 18:27.55 | leejongwook | hehe |
| 18:28.01 | roe | so all of your 'saved' .debs disappear as well? |
| 18:28.02 | gothenburg | mguy: has it ever been? :o |
| 18:28.22 | leejongwook | i use DVD :P when i reuse it |
| 18:28.30 | leejongwook | backup image |
| 18:28.31 | gothenburg | I allways use minimal installer |
| 18:28.38 | mguy | I thought I remembered installing linux on a server, reboot then ssh in from my desk |
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| 18:28.55 | lsd | mguy, if you do a minimal install, it's not there by default |
| 18:29.07 | roe | leejongwook, so just so I am clear, you repeatedly install and reformat a single computer for.... fun? |
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| 18:29.20 | deadcat | how do i setup x11forwarding on windows(putty)? kinna need it at work. |
| 18:29.30 | leejongwook | roe, yes(?) and to learn linux |
| 18:29.47 | roe | ok. enjoy |
| 18:29.48 | leejongwook | roe, so i can install this for someone someday |
| 18:30.10 | leejongwook | roe, who's gonna use it if even i show 'em that i can't use this |
| 18:30.29 | al_ | how do you have more than one file name type on find command? ie name *.spi && *.spf |
| 18:30.44 | roe | 'installing' linux has become pretty mindless, I don't know how much you can learn by repeating the same 8 steps |
| 18:30.48 | leejongwook | roe, for myself, doesn't really matter i won't reinstall this but i'm making better skill for future linux users |
| 18:31.02 | deadcat | al_: it doesnt do "*.sp[if]" ? |
| 18:31.32 | leejongwook | roe, i learnt a lot, i learnt bash python perl to make it easier |
| 18:31.35 | al_ | deadcat: ohh ic |
| 18:31.41 | deadcat | al_: it works. just tested iot |
| 18:31.57 | roe | you did not learn any of those programming languages by *installing* debian repeatedly |
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| 18:32.04 | leejongwook | roe, even i'm still learning new and newer things |
| 18:32.04 | al_ | deadcat: nice |
| 18:32.17 | al_ | the more i use linux the more i like it |
| 18:32.22 | leejongwook | roe, no i don't but i figured out |
| 18:33.03 | leejongwook | roe, i just learnt about /etc/X11/Xwrapper.conf and cp with '-r' option and rsync |
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| 18:33.20 | leejongwook | which uses port '22' |
| 18:33.40 | roe | congrats! but not by installing debian |
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| 18:34.04 | leejongwook | i don't wanna be selfish as long as i use Debian/Linux. i'll spread this out somehow |
| 18:34.23 | leejongwook | why? i don't even know why, just wanna do this |
| 18:34.34 | roe | moves on |
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| 18:35.42 | al_ | deadcat: bugger, find -mtime +14 -type f -name *.sp[if] -exec rm {} \; is not working |
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| 18:35.51 | al_ | deadcat: its the -exec bit it dont like |
| 18:36.04 | al_ | deadcat: its on my QNAP NAS which runs debian |
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| 18:36.11 | deadcat | al_: you have to quote the "*.sp[if]" |
| 18:37.19 | al_ | deadcat: with or without the " " it works fine |
| 18:37.30 | al_ | deadcat: its just when I try to add the -exec rm bit |
| 18:37.37 | deadcat | oh. |
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| 18:38.02 | deadcat | al_: whats the error? |
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| 18:39.23 | al_ | deadcat: |
| 18:39.29 | al_ | deadcat: 10479468544 |
| 18:39.39 | al_ | sorry |
| 18:39.54 | al_ | http://pastebin.ca/1802907 |
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| 18:40.53 | deadcat | al_: maybe busybox's version of find doesnt support -exec? |
| 18:41.06 | g00se | Just got a new monitor, and it's certainly an improvement, although an old CRT. It regularly (c. every 15 seconds) looks as if it's going to turn off the display but doesn't - it comes back. I tried sudo xset s off and sudo xset -dpms. Didn't work. What next? |
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| 18:41.23 | al_ | deadcat: what is busybox? |
| 18:41.31 | deadcat | al_: try find blah -print | while read line; do rm $line; done |
| 18:41.45 | deadcat | !busybox |
| 18:41.46 | dpkg | BusyBox combines tiny versions of many common UNIX utilities into a single small executable. It provides minimalist replacements for most of the utilities you usually find in GNU coreutils, util-linux, etc. |
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| 18:42.38 | al_ | deadcat: its got exec |
| 18:43.03 | al_ | http://busybox.net/downloads/BusyBox.html |
| 18:44.00 | al_ | what about just use -delete? |
| 18:44.41 | rettub | al_: in pastebin there's a missing space between '{}' and '\;' |
| 18:44.52 | deadcat | rettub: nice catch. |
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| 18:45.23 | al_ | rettub: still dont go |
| 18:45.29 | rettub | hn |
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| 18:46.46 | al_ | and busybox supports -exec |
| 18:46.46 | rettub | this works here without probs: touch test.spi test.spf; ls; find -mtime -1 -type f -name "*.sp[if]" -exec rm {} \; (find (GNU findutils) 4.4.0) |
| 18:47.33 | al_ | what about -delete option? |
| 18:47.36 | deadcat | rettub: ya. works for me too. mine is a real debian box though. i think the version on his device is slim'ed down |
| 18:47.43 | al_ | busybox has it |
| 18:47.44 | rettub | have you tried : find . -mtime +14 -type f -name "*.sp[if]" -exec rm {} \; |
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| 18:47.54 | deadcat | al_: try the find ... -print | while thing i gave you. |
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| 18:50.38 | al_ | deadcat: its thinking! |
| 18:51.12 | deadcat | al_: then i must have made a mistake on the command. |
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| 18:51.33 | al_ | deadcat: well if will take a while to delete about 10,000 files |
| 18:51.37 | al_ | if=it |
| 18:51.39 | rettub | al_: try find path ... |
| 18:51.42 | deadcat | ah |
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| 18:52.59 | al_ | deadcat: yep, total number of files is going down slowly! |
| 18:53.30 | al_ | deadcat: your cmd line is a bit on the advanced side for me but i get the basics of it |
| 18:54.14 | deadcat | al_: its slower than -exec, basically just read every line from the find output and delete them. |
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| 18:54.51 | al_ | deadcat: and if I run that as a crontab job, I should pass it a path as well? |
| 18:55.03 | al_ | else it would start on the wrong path? |
| 18:55.04 | rettub | find -mtime +14 -type f -name "*.sp[if]" |xargs rm would be an other way... |
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| 18:55.53 | deadcat | al_: ya. use xargs. but it will work on cron because the output are fullpath. |
| 18:56.33 | al_ | deadcat: i mean the input path, i should specify the full input path in the crontab version of the command? |
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| 18:56.49 | deadcat | al_: ya. always fullpath. |
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| 18:57.52 | al_ | deadcat: sweet -thanks for all ur help |
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| 18:58.34 | deadcat | np |
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| 18:59.45 | unlofl | my syslog server is logging the remote ip of the system instead of the remote hostname. This happens over a private network, and the ips can |
| 19:00.06 | unlofl | er, the server can't use reverse lookup on the ips. They are set in /etc/hosts, but it still writes ip |
| 19:00.25 | unlofl | any ideas? |
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| 19:02.12 | rethus | is debian 6.0 stable ? |
| 19:02.25 | deadcat | no |
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| 19:02.30 | peterrooney | what options exist for backing up a windows workstation to a debian machine, without samba (over the internet)? |
| 19:02.49 | peterrooney | rethus: debian 6.0 does not exist. |
| 19:03.07 | rethus | what else |
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| 19:03.12 | hayleyw | peterrooney, rsync can run on windows |
| 19:03.22 | hayleyw | peterrooney, check out cwrsync, iirc |
| 19:03.30 | SolarisBoy | for backups over internet? |
| 19:03.58 | hayleyw | doesnt matter what it's over |
| 19:04.00 | peterrooney | been trying those, but getting connections to the rsync server has (so far) proved above my ability. |
| 19:04.08 | rethus | i have installed proxmox (virtualizatisation) and there was an iso-image debian 6.0 |
| 19:04.09 | SolarisBoy | it doesn't? |
| 19:04.43 | hayleyw | peterrooney, then install cygwin manually |
| 19:04.50 | Titan8990_ | rethus, debian 6.0 (squeeze) is not stables yet... not even frozen yet |
| 19:04.55 | SolarisBoy | technically it wouldn't but backing up a system over the internet ..? |
| 19:04.57 | Titan8990_ | !squeeze |
| 19:04.58 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the next release, Debian GNU/Linux 6.0. It is the three-eyed space alien. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2008/09/msg00000.html Ask me about <testing>. Not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze. See also <squeeze kernel>. |
| 19:04.59 | SolarisBoy | heh |
| 19:05.28 | rethus | Titan8990_ so better using debian 5 |
| 19:05.29 | rethus | ? |
| 19:05.41 | peterrooney | hayleyw: I wish I could easily, and i don't feel like flying to three locations 600 miles apart. |
| 19:05.45 | Titan8990_ | rethus, if you want a stable system, yes |
| 19:06.05 | rethus | when does 6.0 comes stable? |
| 19:06.07 | jelly-home | peterrooney: step 1) establish a vpn step 2) use whatever you want? |
| 19:06.27 | SolarisBoy | over vpn sounds better =) |
| 19:06.29 | peterrooney | rethus: w.i.r., s.i.y.h |
| 19:06.39 | Titan8990_ | rethus, doesn't have a scheduled release. freeze is next month. speculation is late 2010 |
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| 19:07.40 | hayleyw | SolarisBoy, vpn and rsync use the same encryption methods. it doesnt matter |
| 19:07.56 | Titan8990_ | huh? |
| 19:07.59 | rethus | peterrooney: ??? |
| 19:08.06 | pzn | how can I get the start time of a process? which file in /proc can show me this? |
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| 19:08.16 | Titan8990_ | rethus, "when its ready" |
| 19:08.18 | SolarisBoy | hayleyw: i guess |
| 19:08.28 | SolarisBoy | i wouldn't back up anything over the internet |
| 19:08.38 | hayleyw | good for you |
| 19:08.49 | SolarisBoy | thankies |
| 19:08.56 | AimHere | pzn, can't you use the output of 'ps'? |
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| 19:09.21 | jelly-home | hayleyw: rsync protocol uses no encryption whatsoever |
| 19:09.25 | pzn | AimHere: "ps -o lstart" works, but the output is hard to parse. I'd like unix timestamps |
| 19:09.37 | rethus | Titan8990_ i think peterrooney is one of the useres, cause someone affraid to ask some questions in debian irc or forum... |
| 19:09.41 | SolarisBoy | jelly-home: exactly |
| 19:09.48 | SolarisBoy | it uses other mechanisms like ssh |
| 19:09.49 | hayleyw | jelly-home, rsync would run over ssh |
| 19:09.58 | SolarisBoy | hayleyw: if you tell it to |
| 19:09.59 | jelly-home | hayleyw: that's only optional |
| 19:10.20 | hayleyw | ...yes. |
| 19:10.20 | AimHere | There's also `bsdstart` and `start` |
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| 19:10.43 | rethus | Titan8990_ so thanks a lot for your friendly answers |
| 19:10.55 | Titan8990_ | rethus, anytime :) |
| 19:11.00 | jelly-home | !ops MarkovBot doing channel msgs |
| 19:11.01 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: jelly-home complains about: MarkovBot doing channel msgs |
| 19:11.02 | SolarisBoy | and i would hope you use the option to continue broken xfers too with rsync.... |
| 19:11.03 | leejongwook | :) |
| 19:11.17 | leejongwook | nice ---> http://www.debianadmin.com/howto-use-downloaded-isos-as-a-repository-in-debian.html |
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| 19:11.35 | jelly-home | thanks, unnamed op |
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| 19:14.10 | leejongwook | no need internet :P no need many CDs or DVDs, all i need ls ISOs. now i could go to desert island with my pc :P |
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| 19:15.02 | LordVorp | so, with a "blank" system, what's the package to install from apt-get that will bring in a complete desktop? (kde or gnome) |
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| 19:15.20 | jelly-home | !tell LordVorp about install kde |
| 19:15.24 | jelly-home | !tell LordVorp about install gnome |
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| 19:16.01 | LordVorp | jelly-home++ # w00t. I love IRC... |
| 19:16.04 | jelly-home | LordVorp: also, /msg dpkg tasksel |
| 19:16.13 | abrotman | .yes |
| 19:16.23 | abrotman | ...yes |
| 19:16.27 | jelly-home | no! |
| 19:16.29 | abrotman | ...yes. |
| 19:16.31 | Titan8990_ | maybe |
| 19:16.32 | abrotman | uh ... |
| 19:16.34 | jelly-home | three |
| 19:16.44 | jelly-home | abrotman: well it is quieted now |
| 19:16.49 | abrotman | ...hiya. |
| 19:17.01 | abrotman | MarkovBot: who owns you |
| 19:17.13 | abrotman | screw it |
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| 19:17.39 | jelly-home | abrotman: you did notice the +q above, right? |
| 19:17.48 | abrotman | nope |
| 19:17.56 | abrotman | oh .. it's gone now |
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| 19:23.51 | AbsoluteBeginner | hi! how can I install a special (not current) version os a package ? |
| 19:24.28 | jwaters | need to have a test server mimic one in production, it debian 4.0, when I try to do a fresh install with netinstall cd it fails stops running when it goes out to the mirrors |
| 19:24.52 | AbsoluteBeginner | a previous version of a current package |
| 19:24.57 | jwaters | is there a mirror that has 4.0 still on it for fress installs |
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| 19:27.07 | Titan8990_ | jwaters, if you have a system backup, just restore it |
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| 19:27.51 | LinuxGuy2009 | Can someone verify if Cheese webcam recorder in Debian testing branch has support for changing the resolution of the capture? The one in stable does not and I am considering moving to testing so that I can have this feature. I just got a new webcam and want to make Debian tutorials for YouTube with it. |
| 19:28.02 | jwaters | Titan8990, that require downtime, which is not a luxury |
| 19:28.17 | jwaters | Titan8990, is a good option and see if i can get it |
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| 19:29.27 | jwaters | xyan, thanks for info, doesn't look like they have etch in there |
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| 19:30.41 | AbsoluteBeginner | has someone a hint for me how I can install a previous version of a current debian package ? |
| 19:31.08 | xyan | jwaters: oh right the mirrors have "oldstable" for the previous release though http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/ |
| 19:31.38 | jwaters | xyan, then the site must be getting hammered, really slow download |
| 19:31.40 | Titan8990_ | LinuxGuy2009, often you will not need to upgrade to a new release for a single package (especially desktop applications) |
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| 19:31.49 | Titan8990_ | LinuxGuy2009, im sure you can find a changelog somewhere |
| 19:31.54 | Titan8990_ | !tell LinuxGuy2009 about ssb |
| 19:32.00 | Titan8990_ | judd, versions cheese |
| 19:32.02 | judd | cheese -- lenny: 2.22.3-3; sid: 2.28.1-1; squeeze: 2.28.1-1 |
| 19:32.19 | al_ | rettub: deadcats command stopped working after a while....what was your xargs solution? |
| 19:32.23 | LinuxGuy2009 | Yeah I dont see a backport on packages.debian.org |
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| 19:33.26 | Titan8990_ | LinuxGuy2009, i don't think backports show up on there. backports has its own packages.domain.org |
| 19:33.27 | Failrar | single side band?! :P |
| 19:33.34 | LinuxGuy2009 | I just need an app to record video and select the resolution. 1280x1024 native on the camera is laggy. |
| 19:33.37 | rettub | al_: sorry I've no history yet, swtched the box but use find ... |xargs rm |
| 19:33.42 | Titan8990_ | LinuxGuy2009, but judd would know. have a look at pm from dpkg about ssb |
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| 19:34.09 | rettub | al_: try it first with find ... |xargs ls -l |
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| 19:34.41 | peterrooney | AbsoluteBeginner: here be dragons, but... get previous .deb, then dpkg --force<forceoptions>-i <name_of_deb> # WARNING: may-break-system |
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| 19:35.06 | SimManiac | hi |
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| 19:36.29 | LinuxGuy2009 | !tell LinuxGuy2009 about ssb |
| 19:36.31 | AbsoluteBeginner | peterrooney: where can I download previous versions ? |
| 19:37.19 | LinuxGuy2009 | Well thats no help at all. |
| 19:40.20 | abrotman | !tell LinuxGuy2009 about selftell |
| 19:40.53 | LinuxGuy2009 | LMFAO no helping myself. Ok sure thats a good idea. |
| 19:41.19 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2009: the ssb would be a help if you felt like backporting cheese and who knows what other dependencies that might allow it to do such a thing |
| 19:41.29 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2009: and your question may also be device dependent |
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| 19:41.58 | abrotman | there is a *very* small #cheese on irc.gnome.org |
| 19:42.04 | al_ | i recall there was some prob i read with using xargs with lots of files |
| 19:42.04 | LinuxGuy2009 | I have no idea what ssb is. That dpkg message cuts off. So I didnt see anything about ssb in it. |
| 19:42.16 | peterrooney | AbsoluteBeginner: packages.debian.org goes back as far as etch |
| 19:42.23 | abrotman | it got cut off where? the first sentence? |
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| 19:42.35 | abrotman | works fine here |
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| 19:42.56 | LinuxGuy2009 | !tell LinuxGuy2009 about ssb |
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| 19:43.20 | abrotman | !tell LinuxGuy2009 about selftell |
| 19:43.33 | leejongwook | [Q] i can't find local download site for Debian-DVDs @_@ |
| 19:43.49 | LinuxGuy2009 | abrotman: I cant very well look at the fucking message without doing that now can I? |
| 19:43.54 | wols | define "local" |
| 19:43.59 | LordVorp | ok so I've just installed KDE in my new Lenny install, and I'm looking at options, and under Fonts->antialiasing, it says "Use system settings", and when I Enable it the LCD opts are greyed out ... anybody know where the "system settings" for fonts are? |
| 19:44.02 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2009: READ |
| 19:44.04 | wols | LinuxGuy2009: you can /msg dpkg <stuff> |
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| 19:44.19 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2009: the bot also tells you to "/msg dpkg foo" .. you have a *serious* reading/google/research issue |
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| 19:44.30 | LinuxGuy2009 | You can kiss my ass! |
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| 19:45.12 | abrotman | LinuxGuy2009: now please read what the bot has sent you, and apply it |
| 19:45.21 | LordVorp | abrotman: u forgot to kick him. :) |
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| 19:45.50 | AbsoluteBeginner | Thx peterrooney for your help ! |
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| 19:46.19 | russian_ulysses | have problems with azureus 2.5.0 after upgrade to squeeze -- can't upload, telling me 'Network is unreachable'. Azureus worked fine under Lenny. Transmission works fine under both Lenny and Squeeze. How can I fix Azureus, I prefer it over Transmission? |
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| 19:50.10 | rettub | for Realtek PHY RTL8201EL / 8201CL can I use the module '8139too + RealTek RTL-8129/8130/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter support' - anyone knows? |
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| 19:51.50 | Hyperzid | Whats latest lenny kernel? |
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| 19:52.30 | Titan8990_ | Hyperzid, 2.6.26, same as its been since release |
| 19:52.52 | votyakf | 2.6.30-bpo.1 - backport:)) |
| 19:52.57 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, so 2.6.26-2-686 is the latest? |
| 19:52.58 | Titan8990_ | hyperutz, -17 if thats what your looking for |
| 19:53.04 | simonrvn | !ops WaH-ShE on-join spam |
| 19:53.05 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: simonrvn complains about: WaH-ShE on-join spam |
| 19:53.10 | [Jasper] | hej guys, anyone knows where autofs logs too? |
| 19:53.15 | KB1JWQ | WaH-ShE: Please stop that. :-) |
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| 19:53.38 | Titan8990_ | Hyperzid, its the latest and only official version |
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| 19:53.49 | Titan8990_ | Hyperzid, backports is semi-official and same to use however |
| 19:53.50 | simonrvn | thanks |
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| 19:53.57 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, why isnt it upgraded?.. its vulnarable to a local root exploit. |
| 19:54.29 | Titan8990_ | Hyperzid, no, it gets security patches, just no new features |
| 19:54.52 | Titan8990_ | Hyperzid, if you are really concerned, you can subscribe to the debian kernel and security mailing lists like i do |
| 19:54.54 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, I have 2.6.26-2-686.. and my box is vuln. |
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| 19:55.19 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, if thats the latest.. why do I get root from a local user account then? |
| 19:55.23 | Titan8990_ | Hyperzid, if you are talking about the two recent null pointer dereference vulns, they are both patched on that kernel |
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| 19:55.58 | Titan8990_ | Hyperzid, you were able to exploit the kernel to gain privledge escalation? |
| 19:56.01 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, i'm talking about the sock_sendpage |
| 19:56.07 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, yes! |
| 19:57.06 | zobel | dondelelcaro: i get highlighted here even though i have no chanserv rights here. can you fix that (either way). |
| 19:58.05 | Hyperzid | http://www.dotcom5.net/article/Linux/177.htm |
| 19:58.44 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, ah.. its the null pointer dereference vulns |
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| 19:59.07 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, do you know which patch thats patched? |
| 19:59.43 | simonrvn | zobel: foactoid =~ s,foo,bar, |
| 19:59.50 | simonrvn | zobel: factoid =~ s,foo,bar, even |
| 20:00.21 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, where do I subsribe to those mailing lists? |
| 20:00.31 | Titan8990_ | !lists |
| 20:00.37 | Hydroxide | simonrvn: does that work for !ops <blah> ? |
| 20:00.57 | Hydroxide | simonrvn: intuitively seems like a special case, but I haven't tested |
| 20:00.58 | simonrvn | zobel: e.g. cmd: ops (.*?) =~ s,foo,bar, |
| 20:01.13 | simonrvn | Hydroxide: ^^ ;) |
| 20:01.19 | Hydroxide | ok :) |
| 20:01.38 | zobel | i am not sure if that works for ops |
| 20:01.48 | zobel | i thought that fact is locked. |
| 20:01.56 | simonrvn | if it's not locked, yes it will |
| 20:01.59 | Hydroxide | simonrvn: for some reason I'm at the beginning of the ops output on both freenode and here ... I have no idea why - I certainly wasn't the first #debian chanop. doesn't bother me but still is surprising |
| 20:02.00 | Titan8990_ | Hydroxide, http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ |
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| 20:02.24 | Titan8990_ | Hydroxide, mmap: Operation not permitted is what i got when i tried to run the exploit code and unpriv user |
| 20:02.25 | Hydroxide | Titan8990_: wrong h name |
| 20:02.27 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, so what do I need to install to not be vuln anymore? |
| 20:02.38 | simonrvn | Hydroxide: i'd say alphabetical order but it isn't really sorted *shrug* |
| 20:02.39 | zobel | simonrvn: i have no problem being chanop here, just having the rights would help. |
| 20:02.39 | Titan8990_ | Hydroxide, sorry |
| 20:02.40 | Hydroxide | Titan8990_: you meant Hyperzid I assume |
| 20:02.53 | simonrvn | zobel: i'm with ya there ;) |
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| 20:04.49 | Titan8990_ | Hyperzid, just update your system, the lastest revision should be -17 |
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| 20:05.52 | [Jasper] | my mtab keeps reporting: automount(pid2701) /var/autofs/backupdir autofs rw,fd=4,pgrp=2701,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0 |
| 20:06.00 | [Jasper] | but this isn't mounted...is there any way to refresh mtab? |
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| 20:06.17 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, apt-cache search linux-image-2.6.26-17 <-- dosnt return anything. |
| 20:06.27 | simonrvn | zobel: i used to be here. i've asked to be again, mostly because i keep odd hours and most of them if not all of them aren't here when one is needed at those odd hours. |
| 20:06.40 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, and when I do: apt-get dist-upgrade .. I dont get any kernel updates |
| 20:06.54 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, i've also done apt-get update before all this. |
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| 20:08.02 | karme | !security |
| 20:08.03 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org lenny/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in stable. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude full-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <oldstable security>, <testing security>, <unstable security>. |
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| 20:08.36 | wols | ,versions linux-image-2.6-486 |
| 20:08.36 | judd | linux-image-2.6-486 -- etch: 2.6.18+6etch3; etch-security: 2.6.18+6etch3; etch-backports: 2.6.26+17~bpo40+2; lenny: 2.6.26+17+lenny1; lenny-backports: 2.6.30+20~bpo50+1; sid: 2.6.32+23; squeeze: 2.6.32+23 |
| 20:08.50 | [Jasper] | how can this be: dl-clu01:/var/autofs/backupdir# umount /var/autofs/backupdir |
| 20:08.50 | [Jasper] | umount: /var/autofs/backupdir: device is busy |
| 20:08.53 | Titan8990_ | Hyperzid, thats not a remote vulnerability.... thats local priv escalation |
| 20:09.01 | [Jasper] | autofs has been stopped? |
| 20:09.10 | wols | [Jasper]: some program has a file open on this mount |
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| 20:09.45 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, exactly what I was saying.. "local root exploit" |
| 20:10.27 | [Jasper] | wols how can I find out what program? |
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| 20:11.19 | wols | [Jasper]: lsof fuser |
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| 20:11.40 | Hideme | Is there a way to limit the use of a php script (form mailer) to a specific domain with apache? |
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| 20:12.07 | Titan8990_ | Hyperzid, actually it appears i might have manually done something with this vuln in accordance with the mailing list |
| 20:12.18 | [Jasper] | hmm never used that before wols |
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| 20:12.53 | Titan8990_ | Hyperzid, try: `cat 'vm.mmap_min_addr = 4096' > /etc/sysctl.d/mmap_min_addr.conf` and then try to run the exploit code again |
| 20:13.16 | [Jasper] | wols how does that work ? should I jus tgrep on backupdir? |
| 20:13.45 | karme | Hideme: yes, you can limited based on source host, but probably it is better to use a real authentication mechanism |
| 20:13.59 | karme | ~s/limited/limit |
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| 20:14.06 | Hyperzid | wols, Titan8990 I have "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main non-free contrib" in my /etc/apt/sources.list..and still latest kernel I have installed is 2.6.27-2 |
| 20:14.19 | Hyperzid | sorry 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 20:14.33 | Titan8990_ | hyperutz, apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 |
| 20:14.41 | simonrvn | er, you mean echo, right ? ;) |
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| 20:14.57 | Titan8990_ | simonrvn, oh... right :) |
| 20:15.04 | simonrvn | :) |
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| 20:15.10 | karme | Hideme: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/auth.html |
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| 20:15.25 | Hyperzid | *** 2.6.26-21lenny3 0 500 http://security.debian.org lenny/updates/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 2.6.26-21 0 500 http://ftp.no.debian.org lenny/main Packages |
| 20:15.38 | [Jasper] | wols? dl-clu01:/var/autofs# fuser -m /var/autofs/backupdir ----------- /var/autofs/backupdir: 2701 |
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| 20:16.31 | n1c0 | hi |
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| 20:17.54 | n1c0 | if i install a package which have already be installed as a dep, apt set the pakage manually installed, how to unset that ? |
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| 20:23.37 | marsje | Someone installed a very basic debian server using a swueeze netinstall cd. Is there an easy way to install common server packages, like sudo? |
| 20:23.52 | marsje | I mean all at once... |
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| 20:24.19 | simonrvn | use aptitude's ui? |
| 20:24.40 | simonrvn | or specify more packages on the command line? your choise. |
| 20:24.45 | hjb | hi togehter. anyone has a quick tip how to convert a directory of .flac to mp3? |
| 20:24.45 | simonrvn | choice* |
| 20:25.03 | hjb | i've tried rhytmbox but it doesn't provide anything for this |
| 20:25.23 | simonrvn | script something with mencoder maybe ... |
| 20:25.31 | NiLon | try lame |
| 20:25.32 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, whats wrong with my apt-get policy? |
| 20:25.51 | marsje | simonrvn: I know at install time you can chose like a set of packages, like basic, mail, file-server... Can I do it with aptitude? |
| 20:26.03 | hjb | NiLon: can i use lame without sripting anythind? I'm in a rush |
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| 20:26.35 | simonrvn | that's tasksel, not aptitude |
| 20:26.57 | NiLon | hjb well uh, ofc you need |
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| 20:27.56 | marsje | simonrvn: looks like it :) |
| 20:28.30 | hjb | NiLon: huh? i don't get it :-) what's ofc? |
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| 20:29.06 | NiLon | hjb nothing.. |
| 20:29.55 | hjb | NiLon: Warning: unsupported audio format |
| 20:30.11 | hjb | NiLon: lame seems to doesn't like flac input |
| 20:30.57 | NiLon | hjb intresting, it should |
| 20:31.06 | NiLon | atleast I have converted with it |
| 20:31.16 | hjb | NiLon: i'll try with for file in *.flac; do $(flac -cd "$file" | lame -h - "${file%.flac}.mp3"); done |
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| 20:32.19 | NiLon | you got lame3 or older? |
| 20:32.40 | hjb | NiLon: no idea, just done aptitude install lame |
| 20:32.46 | NiLon | then it's not lame3 |
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| 20:33.11 | hjb | btw. that command i've posted seems to work |
| 20:33.19 | hjb | NiLon: it's the older one? |
| 20:33.28 | NiLon | it's 1.x or 2.x |
| 20:33.41 | NiLon | 3 is not in repo afaik |
| 20:34.01 | hjb | NiLon: ok, that would explain why it worked for you, but not for me ;) |
| 20:34.30 | NiLon | mp3 is patended so.. |
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| 20:35.06 | hjb | NiLon: thats the problem |
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| 20:36.15 | dec3pti0n | is it possible to debootstrap ubuntu lucid on a lenny box ? |
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| 20:36.42 | NiLon | hjb oggdec foo.flac ;) |
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| 20:37.08 | Hideme | karm can auth limit by IP, rather UID/pass? |
| 20:37.21 | Titan8990_ | dec3pti0n, if i can deboostrap lenny from a gentoo box, i would guess yes |
| 20:37.25 | NiLon | hjb and whole dir like; oggenc -q5 *.flac |
| 20:37.50 | hjb | NiLon: :) thanks |
| 20:37.59 | Titan8990_ | dec3pti0n, may need to manually install ubuntu's version, will need to ask #ubuntu |
| 20:38.38 | NiLon | hjb I used wrong command on first example, it should have been oggenc, oggdec will decode heh |
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| 20:39.22 | sigmonsays | Anyone know what makefiles are used for passing configure flags to autoconf/automake and friends? |
| 20:39.32 | sigmonsays | (dpkg-buildpackage) |
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| 20:44.02 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, according to http://www.debian.org/security/2010/dsa-1996 ..then the latest kernel is what I have now.. 2.6.26-2-686. which is vuln. |
| 20:44.53 | Hyperzid | ,versions linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 20:44.55 | judd | linux-image-2.6-686 -- etch: 2.6.18+6etch3; etch-security: 2.6.18+6etch3; etch-backports: 2.6.26+17~bpo40+2; lenny: 2.6.26+17+lenny1; lenny-backports: 2.6.30+20~bpo50+1; sid: 2.6.32+23; squeeze: 2.6.32+23 |
| 20:45.12 | Hyperzid | ..So the lenny one must be wrong.. |
| 20:45.54 | Titan8990_ | Hyperzid, right, i mentioned early that i went back to the mailing list and the fix was a manual one |
| 20:46.03 | Titan8990_ | Hyperzid, try: `echo 'vm.mmap_min_addr = 4096' > /etc/sysctl.d/mmap_min_addr.conf` and then try to run the exploit code again |
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| 20:46.36 | pinholecamera | hey folks |
| 20:46.43 | pinholecamera | i am trying to install mysql 5.1 on etch |
| 20:47.04 | pinholecamera | in the middle of the apt-get install mysql-server-5.1 install it dropped this: http://pastebin.com/m7e845f0a |
| 20:47.15 | pinholecamera | depency issues and whatnot |
| 20:47.27 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, still vuln. |
| 20:47.33 | pinholecamera | not sure where i can go from here, any suggestions |
| 20:47.56 | pinholecamera | i was trying to upgrade this on a production system, so any help is greatly appreciated. was stepping up from 5.0 |
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| 20:48.08 | xyan | Hyperzid: sysctl -p to make changes active |
| 20:48.41 | Titan8990_ | Hyperzid, ^ after that you can do: cat /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr to confirm the change is working |
| 20:48.54 | Titan8990_ | judd, versions mysql-server |
| 20:48.55 | judd | mysql-server -- etch: 5.0.32-7etch8; etch-security: 5.0.32-7etch12; etch-backports: 5.0.51a-24+lenny2~bpo40+1; lenny: 5.0.51a-24+lenny2+spu1; lenny-security: 5.0.51a-24+lenny3; squeeze: 5.1.41-3; sid: 5.1.41-4; lenny-backports: 5.1.43-1~bpo50+1; sid: 5.1.43-1 |
| 20:49.09 | Titan8990_ | pinholecamera, uhh, where are you trying to install that deb from? |
| 20:49.09 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, cat /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr gives: 0 |
| 20:49.17 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, but the exploit still works. |
| 20:49.18 | Titan8990_ | Hyperzid, after running xyan's command? |
| 20:49.23 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, yes |
| 20:49.30 | Titan8990_ | Hyperzid, right, that should be 4096, not 0 |
| 20:49.40 | pinholecamera | Titan8990_: deb http://packages.dotdeb.org etch all |
| 20:50.25 | pinholecamera | i guess if this isn't going to be possible, if there's any way for me to step back down to the previous version |
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| 20:50.29 | Titan8990_ | pinholecamera, hehe, didn't take long to figure why you shouldn't use unsupported 3rd party repos, aye? |
| 20:50.29 | pinholecamera | that'd be hot. |
| 20:50.39 | pinholecamera | Titan8990_: i guess not, no |
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| 20:51.11 | pinholecamera | Titan8990_: i tested it on a local etch copy first and it worked fine, but i am a sucker all the same |
| 20:51.33 | Titan8990_ | pinholecamera, remove those mysql packages that causing problems and just install the one from the default repo |
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| 20:51.59 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, so what then?.. it dosnt work for me! |
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| 20:52.11 | pinholecamera | Titan8990_: think i will lose the settings for 5.0 then? |
| 20:52.11 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, kinda strange that the kernel isnt upgraded |
| 20:52.30 | Titan8990_ | pinholecamera, if you *must* have 5.1 you have some options... you can upgrade to lenny and use lenny-backports, compile, or attempt an ssb (last two depends on how many depends need to change from etch) |
| 20:52.40 | Hyperzid | This problem have been well known for atleast a month.. and still not fixed :-\ |
| 20:52.49 | pinholecamera | Titan8990_: yeah, i should just upgrade to lenny overnight |
| 20:52.49 | Titan8990_ | pinholecamera, no, dpkg will not touch the data or config files |
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| 20:53.01 | Titan8990_ | !tell pinholecamera about etch->lenny |
| 20:53.21 | pinholecamera | Titan8990_: so if i dpkg uninstall 5.1 and then apt-get install 5.0 again? |
| 20:53.38 | Titan8990_ | pinholecamera, yes, you might want to go ahead and remove that repo to be safe |
| 20:53.56 | pinholecamera | Titan8990_: so dpkg --remove mysql-server-5.1 |
| 20:53.56 | Titan8990_ | Hyperzid, I am not sure, you can likely manually edit the file in /proc but it won't persist on reboot |
| 20:54.05 | Titan8990_ | Hyperzid, still good for testing however |
| 20:54.14 | Titan8990_ | pinholecamera, aptitude remove mysql-server mysql-server-5.1 |
| 20:54.25 | pinholecamera | Titan8990_: okay, if that'll keep the data |
| 20:54.59 | pinholecamera | and then just apt-get install mysql-server |
| 20:55.38 | pinholecamera | just want to try to do this in a way to retain the data is all |
| 20:55.44 | pinholecamera | i've got backups but all the same |
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| 20:56.30 | Hyperzid | Titan8990, that worked.. to echo to that file. |
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| 20:56.51 | pinholecamera | okay, done |
| 20:56.52 | pinholecamera | hrmm |
| 20:56.54 | pinholecamera | ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) |
| 20:56.59 | [Jasper] | guys, how can I refresh mtab? |
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| 20:57.36 | wols | [Jasper]: you can edit it |
| 20:57.55 | wols | but I wouldn't |
| 20:57.58 | xyan | Hyperzid: the kernel has been fixed, http://merkel.debian.org/~jurij/2.6.26-21lenny3/i386/ get a config from there and see CONFIG_DEFAULT_MMAP_MIN_ADDR=4096 is set |
| 20:58.01 | simonrvn | [Jasper]: it does it by itself, via mount. you can edit it if you know what you're doing (not hard though) |
| 20:58.16 | simonrvn | [Jasper]: but yeh, better to leave it alone |
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| 20:58.48 | simonrvn | [Jasper]: how about you ask your real question instead? |
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| 20:59.00 | pinholecamera | hrmm, can't seem to get this running |
| 20:59.19 | [Jasper] | simonrvn it reports: automount(pid2701) /var/autofs/backupdir autofs rw,fd=4,pgrp=2701,minproto=2,maxproto=4 0 0 |
| 20:59.29 | [Jasper] | while I can't find any process called automount.. |
| 20:59.38 | [Jasper] | or find a process using it with fuser |
| 20:59.51 | [Jasper] | I killed one of the processes which was using it... |
| 20:59.55 | [Jasper] | but mtab doesn't seem to be changed |
| 21:00.12 | simonrvn | well, that's what happens when you kill -9 stuff ;p |
| 21:00.15 | [Jasper] | but the mount directory still reports device or resource busy |
| 21:00.27 | simonrvn | check /proc/mounts |
| 21:00.39 | [Jasper] | also reports the automount |
| 21:01.02 | simonrvn | you'll have to force it somehow, or reboot |
| 21:01.41 | pinholecamera | oh, /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock is missing |
| 21:01.47 | pinholecamera | mysqld.pid too |
| 21:01.50 | simonrvn | make sure autofs doesn't start up. then fix it |
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| 21:02.24 | simonrvn | wols: hello |
| 21:03.09 | pinholecamera | this is weird |
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| 21:03.44 | [Jasper] | yeah I'll reboot it at 0:00 simonrvn |
| 21:03.46 | [Jasper] | stupid autofs |
| 21:04.13 | simonrvn | something's not right, so you'll need to look at it |
| 21:04.27 | [Jasper] | I was in the directory while I stopped autofs |
| 21:04.31 | [Jasper] | I guess that's the problem |
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| 21:04.46 | simonrvn | oh, that'll do it |
| 21:04.57 | [Jasper] | yeah but restarting it doesn't solve anything |
| 21:05.01 | [Jasper] | I can try one thing |
| 21:05.12 | simonrvn | rm the rc2.d symlink |
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| 21:05.26 | simonrvn | OORC there's a cache file |
| 21:05.30 | simonrvn | IIRC* |
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| 21:06.39 | Hyperzid | xyan, where can I get that "latest" kernel?.. its not in http://security.debian.org/ |
| 21:06.41 | simonrvn | check /vat/lib if there's something to keep state it'll be there or /var/cache |
| 21:06.45 | simonrvn | var* |
| 21:10.39 | Hyperzid | ,versions linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 21:10.40 | judd | linux-image-2.6-686 -- etch: 2.6.18+6etch3; etch-security: 2.6.18+6etch3; etch-backports: 2.6.26+17~bpo40+2; lenny: 2.6.26+17+lenny1; lenny-backports: 2.6.30+20~bpo50+1; sid: 2.6.32+23; squeeze: 2.6.32+23 |
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| 21:11.05 | xyan | Hyperzid: for example linux-image-2.6.26-2-686_2.6.26-21lenny3_i386.deb <- and thats from security |
| 21:11.12 | xyan | and yeah the mmap_minaddr is set to 4096 |
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| 21:11.37 | xyan | theres even a wiki entry regarding that topic http://wiki.debian.org/mmap_min_addr |
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| 21:14.31 | Hyperzid | xyan, must be something wrong somewhere else then.. because I dont see that kernel in apt-get.. |
| 21:14.51 | xyan | Hyperzid: fix your sources list? |
| 21:14.54 | Hyperzid | xyan, but its here I see: http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-libc-dev_2.6.26-21lenny3_i386.deb |
| 21:14.55 | xyan | Hyperzid: aptitude update? |
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| 21:15.46 | Hyperzid | xyan, That was the first thing I did.. |
| 21:15.47 | karme | Hyperzid: one hour ago i meant you should add security to your sources.list |
| 21:15.50 | karme | !security |
| 21:15.51 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org lenny/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in stable. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude full-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <oldstable security>, <testing security>, <unstable security>. |
| 21:16.15 | Hyperzid | deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main non-free contrib |
| 21:16.19 | Hyperzid | I got that |
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| 21:17.35 | marsje | !sources.list |
| 21:17.36 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <apt-setup> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 21:18.00 | xyan | Hyperzid: dpkg -l | grep linux-image says what? |
| 21:18.06 | marsje | !apt-setup |
| 21:18.06 | dpkg | apt-setup was a means of adding a Debian mirror to your APT sources. No longer available since <base-config> was removed (http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2006/01/msg00199.html). <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> can be used instead, ask me about <sources.list> to manually configure. To install Debian packages located on CD, ask me about <apt-cdrom>. |
| 21:18.11 | abrotman | marsje: msg the bot |
| 21:18.34 | marsje | abrotman: good idea.. sorry for the spam |
| 21:18.39 | abrotman | thank you |
| 21:19.02 | Hyperzid | xyan, ahhh!.. |
| 21:19.05 | Hyperzid | linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 2.6.26-21lenny3 |
| 21:19.18 | xyan | Hyperzid⦠|
| 21:19.27 | Hyperzid | Very confusing.. when it says I have linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 |
| 21:20.10 | Hyperzid | and that -21lenny3 isnt in that first version. |
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| 21:20.48 | Hyperzid | xyan, thanks alot :-) |
| 21:20.51 | xyan | Hyperzid: thats the deal with package names and version numbering |
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| 21:34.59 | mix22891 | how do i access as a root trugh grafhic mode? |
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| 21:36.22 | xyan | you dont at all, login as a normal user and use gksu/kdesu to run gui applications with root privileges |
| 21:36.23 | g00se | Just got a new monitor, and it's certainly an improvement, although an old CRT. It regularly (c. every 15 seconds) looks as if it's going to turn off the display but doesn't - it comes back. I tried sudo xset s off and noblank and sudo xset -dpms. Didn't work. What next? |
| 21:38.17 | streuner__ | g00se: what does "lspci -v | grep -i vga" say, btw? |
| 21:39.58 | g00se | streuner: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV25 [GeForce4 Ti 4200] (rev a3) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) |
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| 21:40.28 | pinholecamera | hey folks, i am trying to reinstall mysql from scratch after removing everything |
| 21:40.34 | pinholecamera | on etch |
| 21:40.46 | pinholecamera | and it is telling me all these dependencies it can't and won't get |
| 21:40.55 | pinholecamera | i'm really confused |
| 21:41.06 | streuner | g00se: hm, and what kind of driver do you use actually? (nv, nvidia, vesa) |
| 21:41.09 | xyan | pinholecamera: pastebin |
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| 21:42.00 | pinholecamera | xyan: http://pastebin.com/m3f63de8e |
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| 21:42.08 | g00se | streuner: Can't remember now. Last monitor was fine though (until it bust) |
| 21:42.42 | xyan | pinholecamera: etch you said? |
| 21:43.11 | streuner | g00se: /var/log/x*.log should tell you about... |
| 21:43.32 | p3rror | is there anyone who have an example if ip6tables for a router |
| 21:43.57 | pinholecamera | xyan: yeah, it's etch |
| 21:44.02 | xyan | pinholecamera: dont mix releases, i see lenny backports in the logfile you completely messed up your installation |
| 21:44.21 | pinholecamera | xyan: is there? i will comment that out |
| 21:44.26 | xyan | pinholecamera: fix your sources list to etch / etch backports at first and aptitude update |
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| 21:45.17 | xyan | pinholecamera: also security updates for etch will end in a good month, consider upgrading to lenny |
| 21:45.33 | pinholecamera | yeah i will tonight aftyer this crap |
| 21:46.17 | mix22891 | xyan: what is gksu/kdesu? and i forgot about gui too |
| 21:46.31 | pinholecamera | xyan: hrmm, i try just apt-get install mysql-server-5.0 and it says "Note, sdelecting 5.1 instead of 5.0 |
| 21:46.47 | pinholecamera | will try to comment out any other weird ones |
| 21:46.47 | xyan | pinholecamera: you have it partly installed i guess? |
| 21:46.58 | g00se | streuner: The log doesn't look entirely healthy: http://pastebin.com/f7bd0da6a |
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| 21:47.07 | pinholecamera | xyan: yeah i must have missed a package when i removed it |
| 21:47.29 | xyan | !tell mix22891 about gksu |
| 21:48.12 | mix22891 | and kdesu ? |
| 21:48.24 | krobertson | anyone recommend a good mirror to archive.debian.org? for some reason, my datacenter is having a routing issue there and needed to download some updates |
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| 21:48.40 | pinholecamera | xyan: yeah this is a mess, it won't budge |
| 21:48.55 | keith4 | is there any sort of schedule for when things go into lenny-backports? i'm looking at a closed bug report, and it has the standard "we believe this is fixed in the next version, which will be uploaded etc.". just wondering when to check back |
| 21:50.01 | xyan | mix22891: something like gksu but for kde (forgot the actual name) |
| 21:50.05 | streuner | g00se: sure, http://packages.debian.org/de/lenny/nvidia-glx-legacy-96xx supports the graka, but just try VESA, if you dont need 3D |
| 21:50.20 | keith4 | krobertson: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/new-brunswick-mla-flips-bird-gets-boot/article1465019/ |
| 21:50.22 | keith4 | sorry |
| 21:50.24 | keith4 | wrong buffer |
| 21:50.32 | keith4 | krobertson: http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive |
| 21:50.33 | pinholecamera | xyan: it seems like it wants me to install 5.1 now |
| 21:50.37 | pinholecamera | but 5,1 is what got me into this |
| 21:50.45 | krobertson | keith4: hehe, thanks :) |
| 21:50.59 | xyan | pinholecamera: did you remove the dotdeb repos and ran aptitude update? |
| 21:51.01 | macrobat | I can't boot after a hw upgrade (mobo, mem, proc). I get pass the grub menu. |
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| 21:51.24 | macrobat | There are no partitions or hdds in /dev/ The labels and uuids match in fstab and menu.lst when i boot a live cd |
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| 21:51.25 | streuner | g00se: please read http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers too, it shouldnt hurt... |
| 21:51.29 | xyan | pinholecamera: use apt cache policy mysql-server to see what candidate picks and where it comes from |
| 21:51.49 | keith4 | macrobat: totally not an authoritative answer, but you might need a new initrd |
| 21:51.57 | g00se | streuner: I'll try it thanks. I certainly don't need 3D |
| 21:51.58 | xyan | pinholecamera: apt-cache policy of course |
| 21:52.31 | macrobat | keith4: how do i generate that? |
| 21:52.34 | pzn | Hi. I need to test how my firmware will deal with a time change. How can I configure ntp to now sync in any server, but to supply the kernel time as correct one, as stratum1? using debian lenny. |
| 21:52.48 | pinholecamera | xyan: http://pastebin.com/m6e0d6a61 the -1 ones are the trouble? |
| 21:52.49 | pzn | s/now/not/ |
| 21:52.52 | mix22891 | youtube go nuts wen i watch it. what append? |
| 21:53.14 | keith4 | macrobat: if you're already booted to a live CD... you can bind-mount /dev and /proc, then chroot to your real parition, and maybe do update-grub? |
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| 21:53.31 | _dv_ | hi |
| 21:53.36 | mix22891 | hi |
| 21:53.37 | keith4 | macrobat: don't take that as much more than a stab in the dark, though |
| 21:53.41 | _dv_ | is it true that it is not recommended to use the testing kernel? |
| 21:53.48 | _dv_ | and use the stable or unstable kernel instead? |
| 21:53.56 | xyan | pinholecamera: http://ppa.launchpad.net hardy/main Packages ?! ubuntu |
| 21:53.57 | pinholecamera | xyan: i see a bunch for http://ppa.launchpad.net hardy/main Packages |
| 21:53.57 | pinholecamera | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:54.09 | xyan | pinholecamera: what the heck are you doing |
| 21:54.09 | macrobat | ok, i need 64bit system to chroot into a 64bit one, right? |
| 21:54.21 | pinholecamera | xyan: i have no idea where that stuff came from |
| 21:54.32 | xyan | pinholecamera: pastebin your sources list |
| 21:54.39 | keith4 | wow. you managed to mix ubuntu and debian packages? |
| 21:54.51 | xyan | pinholecamera: i dont even think you run etch lsb_release -a ? |
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| 21:55.38 | macrobat | mixing ubuntu and debian, thats how randall munroe trashed his laptop :) |
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| 21:56.07 | pinholecamera | xyan: http://pastebin.com/m387a725b oh man, there might have been a crossover at one point while trying to install xsendfile mod |
| 21:56.19 | pinholecamera | that sucks |
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| 21:56.40 | xyan | pinholecamera: lol! good job |
| 21:57.04 | pinholecamera | yeah that's great |
| 21:57.07 | xyan | pinholecamera: see /etc/apt/preferences and get rid of pinned packages |
| 21:57.13 | macrobat | can i run update-grub from a netinstall cd? |
| 21:57.47 | keith4 | the netinstaller has a rescue mode that will chroot for you |
| 21:57.49 | xyan | pinholecamera: and dont ever mix distris, if you need a special application compile that from source / build your own package or whatever |
| 21:58.06 | pinholecamera | xyan: not sure what you mean with getting rid of pinned packages |
| 21:58.07 | keith4 | or, worst case, download the debs manually and try them with dpkg -i |
| 21:58.22 | pinholecamera | i see.. |
| 21:58.32 | pinholecamera | http://pastebin.com/m61f00174 |
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| 21:58.43 | pinholecamera | in /etc/member:apt/preferences |
| 21:59.02 | g00se | streuner: The other thing (i forgot): i've got an xorg.conf set up for the *old* monitor. That probably won't help (?) |
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| 21:59.17 | xyan | pinholecamera: remove these -1 pinning for debian packages, keep your sources list with etch official and etch security |
| 21:59.51 | pinholecamera | xyan: still not sure what you mean on the first part, how would i get rid of the -1 pinning |
| 22:00.07 | pinholecamera | xyan: we've reached beyond my scope at the moment |
| 22:00.09 | xyan | pinholecamera: empty the preferences file :/ |
| 22:00.18 | pinholecamera | xyan: blank it entirely |
| 22:00.25 | xyan | pinholecamera: yap |
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| 22:01.36 | pinholecamera | okay, and sources.list is confirmed as official and security only |
| 22:01.43 | pinholecamera | so apt-get update and try again? |
| 22:01.47 | xyan | right! |
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| 22:02.40 | pinholecamera | okay, i only see the officials in the update results |
| 22:02.40 | daven | hello |
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| 22:02.51 | pinholecamera | so i'm going to try apt-get install mysql-server -y again and see how we do |
| 22:02.52 | daven | have a problem with ppc debian |
| 22:03.05 | daven | most likely yaboot |
| 22:03.23 | pinholecamera | ahh |
| 22:03.31 | pinholecamera | okay, i got a lot further this time |
| 22:03.34 | daven | reloading yaboot is not woiking |
| 22:03.36 | xyan | judd: versions libapache2-mod-xsendfile |
| 22:03.38 | judd | libapache2-mod-xsendfile -- sid: 0.9-2; squeeze: 0.9-2 |
| 22:03.46 | pinholecamera | but it still borked towards the end... so maybe not everything is deleted still |
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| 22:03.57 | pinholecamera | http://pastebin.com/m13cb679b |
| 22:04.12 | pinholecamera | that's from a apt-get install mysql-server -y |
| 22:04.36 | pinholecamera | pulled just from the officials |
| 22:04.44 | xyan | pinholecamera: remove the mysql-server-5.1 package at first which is still there probably partly installed or unconfigured |
| 22:05.52 | pinholecamera | xyan: hrm,, if aptitude doesn't think it's installed "Package mysql-server-5.1 is not installed, so not removed" |
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| 22:06.00 | xyan | pinholecamera: Aborting downgrade from (at least) 5.1 to 5.0. tells the other truth |
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| 22:10.24 | pinholecamera | yeah it does |
| 22:10.24 | xyan | pinholecamera: dpkg --force-all -r mysql-server-5.1 |
| 22:10.25 | xyan | pinholecamera: careful! |
| 22:10.25 | pinholecamera | okay |
| 22:10.25 | pinholecamera | it's worth a shot at this point |
| 22:10.26 | pinholecamera | "dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove mysql-server-5.1, only the config |
| 22:10.26 | pinholecamera | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.26 | xyan | ok fine |
| 22:10.26 | pinholecamera | so that's the answer, just the config files? |
| 22:10.26 | xyan | uhm nah it said it keeps the config files |
| 22:10.26 | pinholecamera | okay |
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| 22:10.27 | xyan | should be the same from your previous 5.0 installation (if you didnt said y to overwrite them with 5.1) |
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| 22:10.27 | xyan | now apt-get 5.0 |
| 22:10.27 | pinholecamera | i didn't |
| 22:10.27 | xyan | !tell pinholecamera why aptitude |
| 22:10.27 | pinholecamera | apt-get install mysql-server-5.0 explicitly? |
| 22:10.27 | xyan | ya |
| 22:10.28 | pinholecamera | damn, it's still jocking the 5.1 to 5,0 downgrade thing |
| 22:10.34 | pinholecamera | Unpacking mysql-server-5.0 (from .../mysql-server-5.0_5.0.32-7etch12_i386.deb) ... |
| 22:10.34 | pinholecamera | Aborting downgrade from (at least) 5.1 to 5.0. |
| 22:10.34 | xyan | pinholecamera: then donwload the deb itself and dpkg --force-all -i <.deb> |
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| 22:10.35 | xyan | pinholecamera: cant do much wrong at this point, its already in a worse condition |
| 22:10.35 | mix22891 | leave the kids alon |
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| 22:10.36 | pinholecamera | xyan: looks like it's in the /var/cahce/apt/archives dir anyways |
| 22:10.36 | pinholecamera | mysql-server-5.0_5.0.32-7etch12_i386.deb |
| 22:10.37 | pinholecamera | member:dpkg --force-all -i mysql-server-5.0_5.0.32-7etch12_i386.deb gives me the same error, aborting downgrade |
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| 22:11.30 | pinholecamera | although now i am seeing a mysql command again, albiet one that doesn't work |
| 22:11.43 | pinholecamera | probably because it partially installed it from the last apt-get |
| 22:12.03 | mix22891 | oh, my HardDick is gone! |
| 22:12.21 | xyan | pinholecamera: dpkg -l |grep mysql, check the version and proceed the way you did with mysql-server-5.1 |
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| 22:13.18 | pinholecamera | xyan: just clean it out? |
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| 22:13.54 | pinholecamera | member:dpkg --force-all -r mysql packages etc |
| 22:13.57 | xyan | pinholecamera: try using apt at first, if its not working the rough method with dpkg⦠read the backlog if you already forgot |
| 22:14.06 | pinholecamera | xyan: yup |
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| 22:15.30 | pinholecamera | yeah i definitely see 5.1 in that grep |
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| 22:18.02 | path | what happened to w32codecs? |
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| 22:18.10 | path | I no longer see it con debian-multimedia |
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| 22:18.56 | pinholecamera | okay, removed them all, going to try to install again |
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| 22:19.25 | pinholecamera | okay good good |
| 22:19.28 | xyan | path: its still there *** 1:20071007-0.1 0 600 http://mirror.hro.nl unstable/main Packages (at least with unstable) |
| 22:19.28 | pinholecamera | if i do install now |
| 22:19.39 | pinholecamera | it just squawks about dependencies, but not about downgrades. |
| 22:20.05 | pinholecamera | so i'm going to try apt-get install mysql-server-5.0 -y again |
| 22:20.06 | path | xyan: its non-free? |
| 22:20.23 | eidan | n |
| 22:20.25 | xyan | path: as it says unstable/main |
| 22:20.26 | pinholecamera | damn this thing is possessed |
| 22:20.28 | path | I might have ot included on sources |
| 22:20.35 | pinholecamera | aborting downgrade to 5.0 |
| 22:20.37 | path | weird |
| 22:20.57 | path | thanks xyan :) |
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| 22:21.34 | Mynewnicj | off topic: smart question:) a NightElf offers to buy your soul. What is your price? And what if he was called "Leegolas"? |
| 22:21.47 | xyan | path: might be a country related issue, not every mirror has the same packages in dmm i think |
| 22:21.51 | kshah | I can't seem to find an option in apt-get or apt-cache to report back version numbers of currently installed packages |
| 22:22.08 | path | xyan: in fact thats is the issue |
| 22:22.17 | xyan | kshah: apt-cache policy <pkg> |
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| 22:22.40 | pinholecamera | okay, so, i did the dpkg remove stuff again on all of those, to make sure they're gone |
| 22:22.56 | pinholecamera | is there something i should try instead of member:apt-get install mysql-server-5.0 |
| 22:23.13 | pinholecamera | i tried installing just the package .deb with dpkg and it just asks for dependencies |
| 22:23.31 | xyan | pinholecamera: pastebin the whole errors of apt-get install |
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| 22:23.51 | pinholecamera | xyan: sure |
| 22:24.48 | pinholecamera | xyan: http://pastebin.com/m560b160b |
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| 22:25.48 | xyan | i still see: Aborting downgrade from (at least) 5.1 to 5.0. |
| 22:26.07 | pinholecamera | xyan: yeah, me too, it's there when i do the whole apt-get |
| 22:26.24 | pinholecamera | xyan: if i just do the .deb file it asks for all of those dependencies |
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| 22:28.36 | pitriss | Hi:) |
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| 22:31.51 | brad | I get 'grub error 22' after messing around with partitioning. is it best to boot from debian cd to fix this? |
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| 22:32.02 | brad | it won't boot at all now |
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| 22:33.50 | pitriss | brad: I think best what you can do is boot from cd to rescue mode, mount your boot (or root) partition and then manually edit menu.lst and set correct paths to root and initrd etc.. |
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| 22:34.24 | brad | thanks pitriss will give it a go :) |
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| 22:35.04 | pitriss | brad: your welcome |
| 22:37.14 | pitriss | Please can someone help me with (maybe trivial) issue? I have debian lenny and during installation i was asked if i want "full" initrd or just drivers for current hw.. I picked "only for current hw" and now i need full.. is any way to get full set of drivers in initrd? |
| 22:37.34 | tuvwx | any cool suggestions for a purpose for a bunch of machines lying around? |
| 22:39.00 | AimHere | Beowulf cluster them |
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| 22:40.02 | tuvwx | AimHere: then what? that's not a *purpose* |
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| 22:41.14 | AimHere | Well maybe not. But it'll keep you occupied for a few hours, which seems to be the main thing ;) |
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| 22:53.50 | dodecahedron | Linux is for mentally retarded bitches who ate too many lead chips as babies |
| 22:54.27 | Amarande | dodecahedron, please go back under your bridge |
| 22:54.36 | dodecahedron | That is why google uses Linux but was hacked by China recently |
| 22:54.39 | dodecahedron | OpenBSD blackhole.earthlink.net 4.6 ejeet2#0 i386 |
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| 22:54.49 | Amarande | !ops troll |
| 22:54.49 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: amarande complains about: troll |
| 22:55.11 | dodecahedron | Linux will never be as secure as OpenBSD for political, marketing and technical reasons |
| 22:55.18 | dodecahedron | Linux is for bitches and dumb ones at that |
| 22:55.27 | RichiH | you are obviously right |
| 22:55.33 | RichiH | if not, may god quiet you |
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| 22:55.43 | *** mode/#debian [-o RichiH] by RichiH |
| 22:55.46 | RichiH | hmmk |
| 22:55.55 | RichiH | well, that's that then |
| 22:56.51 | tabashco | lol |
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| 22:57.40 | PuffyBSD | RichiH right well I was rude, insulting and personal because Linus Torvalds head Finno-Ugric subhuman untermensch leader of Linux called OpenBSD people 'a bunch of masturbating monkeys" |
| 22:57.40 | RichiH | pufwelcome back |
| 22:58.03 | PuffyBSD | RichiH yeah you were too stupid to silence me properly since you are a mentally retarded linux bitch |
| 22:58.13 | RichiH | that is true :( |
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| 22:58.23 | LoRez | how 'bout that? |
| 22:58.34 | RichiH | boooring |
| 22:58.41 | craigevil | mmmmm lead chips with french onion dip or are they better with salsa |
| 22:58.54 | RichiH | salsa |
| 22:59.08 | Amarande | why am I not surprised ... there seems to be a significant number of BSD users who take digs at Linux |
| 22:59.14 | Amarande | even some rather professional ones |
| 22:59.25 | Titan8990 | !ops PuffyBSD trolling |
| 22:59.26 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: titan8990 complains about: PuffyBSD trolling |
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| 22:59.32 | LoRez | Titan8990: you're a bit late. |
| 22:59.40 | Amarande | remembers the amount of love that Linux got in #unix on efnet back in the day heh |
| 22:59.47 | Titan8990 | RichiH: your on that list... why is he still here? |
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| 23:00.03 | RichiH | Titan8990: he can not talk, so it does not matter |
| 23:00.19 | Titan8990 | RichiH: ah, i didn't see the +q |
| 23:00.36 | LoRez | either of them? |
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| 23:01.26 | Titan8990 | LoRez: no, late to the party |
| 23:01.35 | Titan8990 | LoRez: i see it now that I scroll up |
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| 23:02.32 | pitriss | Please can someone advice me how i can switch limited initrd to full one.. i need transfer my Debian Lenny pc to new hardware.. |
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| 23:04.25 | Titan8990 | pitriss: there shouldn't be any problems... but if there is just chroot into the new install and reinstall the kernel package |
| 23:04.47 | DuClare | Amarande: The usual fanboy-flamers. Just like the Linux fanboys who bash <insert any non-linux OS here> |
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| 23:05.13 | DuClare | Nothing new. :> |
| 23:05.37 | Titan8990 | DuClare: imo that guy was exceptionally immature |
| 23:05.55 | pitriss | Titan8990: So it doesnt matter if old hw was Athlon64 (32bit system) and new one is Intel i7 (socket 1156) |
| 23:06.05 | pitriss | ? |
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| 23:06.36 | Amarande | DuClare, yeah, but back then at least people as prominent as major IRC admins hated on Linux staunchly |
| 23:06.37 | Titan8990 | pitriss: no |
| 23:06.48 | Amarande | usually going so far as to claim "Linux is not an appropriate OS to run ircd" |
| 23:07.20 | Titan8990 | I read an old BBS archive of somone ranting (pre-linux days) constantly referring to UNIX as a "toy" |
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| 23:07.36 | Amarande | (And yeah, they could tell, even without access to the server machine itself. :) |
| 23:07.42 | pitriss | Titan8990: Ok.. so i try put my disks into new HW and boot this.. Thanks very much |
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| 23:13.19 | Titan8990 | pitriss: that likely won't "just work" |
| 23:13.41 | Titan8990 | pitriss: however, the problem won't be the initrd, it will be /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab |
| 23:14.00 | Titan8990 | pitriss: you can change them to device names and then back to UUID once you have the system up |
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| 23:14.55 | pitriss | Titan8990: i dont think so.. I dont touch my disks.. i just disassembly my old pc and put disks as they are to new pc.. |
| 23:15.04 | Titan8990 | pitriss: as long as you don't have /var, /usr or something like that on its own partition, you can actually get away with booting with a incorrect /etc/fstab and edit directly from the grub menu |
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| 23:15.20 | Titan8990 | pitriss: right, but it will have a new UUID in the new computer |
| 23:16.15 | pitriss | Titan8990: I have /var, /tmp and /home on separate partitions.. but im familiar with modifying of menu.lst and fstab:) |
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| 23:18.34 | Titan8990 | pitriss: after you have manually edited menu.lst and got the system to boot, you will want to do: `mv /boot/grub/menu.lst ~/menu.lst.bak; update-grub` to autogenerate again using UUID |
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| 23:20.04 | agdoku | does LVM striping only work with two drives? |
| 23:20.20 | agdoku | what happens if I want to add more drives later? |
| 23:21.08 | pitriss | Titan8990: Im not using uuids.. I dont need them.. :)) So i think in this point shouldn't be problem:) |
| 23:21.13 | Titan8990 | agdoku: VGs can certainly contain more than two disks |
| 23:21.38 | Titan8990 | pitriss: you think that until you do something like plug in an external esata drive and device names change |
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| 23:22.03 | Titan8990 | pitriss: and when it comes it to upgrade to squeeze next year, your hand-modified menu.lst will not be updated automatically for the new kernel |
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| 23:22.34 | pitriss | Titan8990: Ah i dont have extrenal esata drive:)) But okay:)) I try think about using uuids:) |
| 23:22.41 | yagoo | Titan8990, should be out this year.. |
| 23:23.06 | yagoo | wants people to know he actually uses reportbug |
| 23:23.30 | Titan8990 | yagoo: there was talk of release late 2010, but i will not be upgrading until security support starts, which will not be at release from what i have read |
| 23:24.12 | [here] | what is that super annoying flashing "enter your search" thing on the bottom of my gnome desktop? |
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| 23:25.08 | Titan8990 | [here]: screenshot |
| 23:26.08 | [here] | I closed screenshot forever ago |
| 23:26.20 | [here] | ill find the pid and kill it I guess |
| 23:27.07 | schgoddie | hi, sorry to ask in debian but there was no answer in ubuntu... |
| 23:27.14 | schgoddie | since yesterday my mailman do not send mail anymore :o( - ubuntu-server 9.04 package dovecot-postfix |
| 23:27.22 | [here] | apparently screenshot isn't running |
| 23:27.24 | schgoddie | /var/log/mailman/smtp-failture got tons of code 450 errors and a strange mail-address |
| 23:27.39 | schgoddie | Feb 19 17:43:44 2010 (2849) delivery to mareike_hy@hotmail.comandrea.stegmaier failed with code 450: 4.1.2 |
| 23:27.46 | schgoddie | <mareike_hy@hotmail.comandrea.stegmaier>: Recipient address rejected: Domain not found |
| 23:27.53 | [here] | this is basically debilitating my desktop--a bug i suppose |
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| 23:29.00 | [here] | Titan8990, any advise on how to close this most annoying "feature"? |
| 23:29.25 | Titan8990 | [here]: never or seen or heard of it, so i was asking for a screenshot |
| 23:29.37 | Titan8990 | schgoddie: still not supported here, sorry |
| 23:29.41 | Titan8990 | !they don't know |
| 23:29.41 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 23:30.01 | [here] | ohhh, I just used the gnome-screenshot feature, thats why I thought when you said SS, you meant that it was from the screenshot mechanism. |
| 23:30.14 | Titan8990 | nah |
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| 23:30.46 | [here] | alright, ive got 2 (for 2 different purposes) where should I post them? |
| 23:31.13 | Titan8990 | imagebin.ca |
| 23:31.18 | agdoku | which tool is currently used for software raid? mdadm or dmraid? |
| 23:31.22 | deuterium | hi guys, how can i make "ls" on lenny behave the way every sane "ls" should behave? |
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| 23:32.40 | Titan8990 | deuterium: ls on lenny is from GNU coreutils... what UNIX system has a different ls and what do you call "sane"? |
| 23:32.41 | deuterium | "ls -la" on lenny does some really weird sorting, totally ignoring the dot in dotfiles |
| 23:32.50 | karme | agdoku: i think most still use mdadm => md raid and not dm raid - but maybe i am wrong |
| 23:32.57 | [here] | This first screenshot demonstrates a font issue that I have (specific to any terminal) http://imagebin.ca/view/ugJMzA.html |
| 23:33.19 | [here] | This second one is the search thing: http://imagebin.ca/view/HjWls1.html |
| 23:33.32 | karme | agdoku: ~s/mdadm => md raid/md raid => mdadm/ |
| 23:34.06 | karme | agdoku: and debian installer does setup md raid |
| 23:34.08 | deuterium | Titan8990: i may be wrong, but i don't remember that any "ls -la" before listed e.g. a file named "gpg" before a file named ".profile" |
| 23:34.08 | [here] | with the font issue you will notice that the right top terminal has filled boxes for letters--sometimes almost the entire line will be those boxes |
| 23:34.37 | [here] | and the second SS just demo's that annoying flashing "enter your search" banner |
| 23:34.44 | deuterium | Titan8990: iow: ls on lenny ignores the dot in dotfiles |
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| 23:35.42 | agdoku | karme: I have a running system already, so I don't use the installer to setup my raid |
| 23:36.14 | agdoku | karme: I used to use mdadm. And never heard of dmraid. So I'd figure that dmraid is the newer one. Is that right? |
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| 23:36.29 | [here] | agdoku, I used mdadm and it worked just fine for me |
| 23:36.37 | karme | agdoku: mdadm means md raid |
| 23:37.02 | karme | agdoku: dmraid is device mapper based (i didn't try it yet) |
| 23:37.35 | karme | agdoku: don't know for sure wether dmraid is newer |
| 23:38.10 | karme | agdoku: i am using md raid because dmraid does not support partial resync afaik |
| 23:38.16 | agdoku | dmraid seems to be for sata fakeraid |
| 23:38.24 | Titan89901 | deuterium: i would be suspect of that dock, what is it? |
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| 23:38.57 | deuterium | Titan89901: dock? what do yo mean by dock? |
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| 23:39.16 | Titan89901 | deuterium: the graphical task manager at the bottom.... |
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| 23:40.11 | [here] | Titan89901, you mean me? |
| 23:40.15 | deuterium | Titan89901: i don't know what you mean |
| 23:40.44 | [here] | yeah, you are probably right |
| 23:40.52 | [here] | its probably the dock |
| 23:41.34 | [here] | it worked |
| 23:41.39 | Titan89901 | deuterium: sorry about that |
| 23:41.44 | Titan89901 | [here]: what dock is it? |
| 23:41.52 | [here] | cairo |
| 23:41.57 | deuterium | Titan89901: np |
| 23:42.08 | Titan89901 | [here]: where did you get it? |
| 23:42.33 | [here] | its been awhile, but i either compiled it from their source, or through the repos |
| 23:43.35 | Titan89901 | [here]: its not in the repos, and they had always only made packages for and supported ubuntu |
| 23:43.47 | [here] | ohhh yes |
| 23:43.51 | [here] | now I remember |
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| 23:44.19 | Titan89901 | [here]: it seems that is now called glx-dock |
| 23:44.25 | [here] | I did compile it from source and when you download it you have to download the ubuntu version (which they state it their documentation should be compatible) |
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| 23:45.13 | agdoku | what I am still trying to figure out is, if I can expand an FS on a RAID10 later, when I might add one more RAID1 to it. |
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| 23:45.43 | Titan89901 | [here]: actually, I am looking now and they are recommending debian users add a ubuntu repository..... |
| 23:46.25 | zinx | O_O |
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| 23:47.36 | [here] | Titan89901, well, I could have sworn I compiled it, ill check my sources file |
| 23:48.11 | [here] | well ill be darned, I did add it to the repos |
| 23:49.29 | [here] | is the newest large upgrade due to the new JPEG and PNG libraries? |
| 23:53.05 | [here] | *I did an apt-get upgrade and saw several items to be upgraded--I'm assuming they are for the new JPEG and PNG libs (restated for clarification) |
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| 23:53.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | you could always, y'know, like, check the changelog? |
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| 23:55.15 | [here] | meh, I'm not to concerned, mostly just making small talk I suppose |
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| 23:56.18 | [here] | kinda like a nerds equivalent of hows the weather, I mean, if I really wanted to know I could just look out my window |
| 23:56.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | well... actually it's already dark outside |
| 23:56.58 | [here] | its only 5pm here |
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| 23:57.11 | nevyn | [here]: nerds build their own weather stations connected via wireless to their watch to get the weather. |
| 23:57.21 | [here] | :) |
| 23:57.42 | Archaeopteryx | Are there any programs that will permanently keep track of my bandwidth statistics? I basically just want to be able to run it, look and see how much I've used for a month, or a year, or a day, or an hour...etc. Preferably graphically |
| 23:57.43 | NiLon | 02:00 here (soon) \o |
| 23:57.52 | nevyn | Archaeopteryx: ntop |
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| 23:58.20 | NiLon | vnstat or something made graphs too |
| 23:58.27 | [here] | well gentlemen, take care, I gotta run |
| 23:58.39 | NiLon | http://humdi.net/vnstat/cgidemo/ |
| 23:59.05 | nevyn | Archaeopteryx: there's also some neat stuff by WAND for interactive traffic analysis stuff |
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| 23:59.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | or just run "apt-cache search bandwidth monitor"? |
