| 00:00.26 | *** join/#debian nvz (~nvz@c-67-163-176-174.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 00:05.58 | *** join/#debian abrotman (~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman) |
| 00:06.14 | *** join/#debian nevle (~nevle@119-18-14-178.cust.aussiebb.net) |
| 00:06.21 | *** join/#debian Aiden (~Aiden@adsl-75-34-81-220.dsl.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:06.35 | dark | jhutchins_lt, it's likely that there is a #samba channel (just trying to help) |
| 00:07.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 836] by debhelper |
| 00:07.20 | *** join/#debian hid3 (~tst@lan-78-157-71-116.vln.skynet.lt) |
| 00:08.17 | *** join/#debian acathur (~acathur@unaffiliated/acathur) |
| 00:08.44 | *** join/#debian maif (~user@CPE00121713f9c5-CM001225dbb2fc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 00:09.05 | *** part/#debian nevle (~nevle@119-18-14-178.cust.aussiebb.net) |
| 00:09.53 | *** join/#debian oreo (~cooloreo@unaffiliated/oreo) |
| 00:10.11 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe2 (~havoc@SE400.PPPoE-113.sa.bih.net.ba) |
| 00:10.17 | oreo | hey, i'm getting this error when trying to add this rule: iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -p tcp -m socket -j DIVERT |
| 00:10.27 | oreo | error: Couldn't load match `socket':/lib/xtables/libipt_socket.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 00:13.46 | oreo | anyone? |
| 00:13.53 | *** join/#debian VladNistor (~nistor@89.137.125.51) |
| 00:14.08 | *** part/#debian VladNistor (~nistor@89.137.125.51) |
| 00:14.24 | *** join/#debian wols (~klingens@p549DF172.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:14.30 | Tramp | oreo: what version of Debian is that? |
| 00:14.38 | *** join/#debian Backup (backup@110100100.wikipotica.info) |
| 00:14.40 | oreo | Tramp: lenny |
| 00:15.02 | Tramp | well. I have the socket module, but not DIVERT. |
| 00:15.07 | Tramp | on squeeze |
| 00:15.43 | Tramp | so I'd expect you to get an error about libipt_DIVERT.so ... |
| 00:15.46 | oreo | i don't think DIVERT is a problem |
| 00:17.12 | *** join/#debian prince_jammys (~mischa@pool-151-202-82-99.ny325.east.verizon.net) |
| 00:17.42 | *** join/#debian ix (kvamtroe@cassarossa.samfundet.no) |
| 00:17.42 | *** join/#debian ix (kvamtroe@unaffiliated/ix) |
| 00:18.05 | oreo | Tramp: how do you know you have it? packages.debian.org returns no match for the file |
| 00:18.15 | *** join/#debian kokkafasas (~myself@host81-160-dynamic.51-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 00:19.15 | *** join/#debian daedaluz (~daedaluz@dyn82-77.yok.fi) |
| 00:19.38 | Tramp | oreo: because I have /lib/modules/2.6.32-trunk-686/kernel/net/netfilter/xt_socket.ko, which is the module that is loaded by your command (if I remove the DIVERT) |
| 00:19.46 | *** join/#debian Aiden (~Aiden@adsl-75-34-81-220.dsl.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:19.50 | *** join/#debian mart50 (~marty@pool-71-97-1-39.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 00:19.54 | *** join/#debian tweve-VB03 (~tweve@ool-4b7fc343.static.optonline.net) |
| 00:20.06 | oreo | why does it look for .so? |
| 00:20.22 | oreo | does the command work on your box? (it shouldn't disrupt anything) |
| 00:20.41 | Tramp | good question. maybe ##netfilter knows, how exactly this automagic module-searching for iptables works .... |
| 00:20.59 | Tramp | oreo: yes - without the -j DIVERT, as I just said |
| 00:21.14 | oreo | oh ok |
| 00:21.19 | oreo | but with it it doesn't work? hmm |
| 00:21.23 | *** join/#debian mart50 (~marty@pool-71-97-1-39.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 00:21.55 | oreo | Tramp: btw, this is for running stunnel with transparent proxy |
| 00:22.11 | *** join/#debian tinflu (~tfinfl@87.69.125.102) |
| 00:22.25 | *** join/#debian okamura (~okamura@mfac.st.wakwak.ne.jp) |
| 00:22.34 | Tramp | no, and neither have I ever heard of a DIVERT target nor does my iptables manpage mention it. So it's probably some new target which is known only to patch-o-matic |
| 00:22.50 | *** join/#debian charzero (~magrat@cpe-67-240-131-62.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 00:23.20 | Tramp | so even if the error for the socket-module would go away, you'd get a new one for the missing DIVERT, I'm sure. |
| 00:23.49 | *** join/#debian chunknuts (~Chunk@69.125.126.40) |
| 00:25.14 | *** join/#debian yuastnav (~quassel@80.152.1.100) |
| 00:25.26 | *** join/#debian Spami|Thug (~Spami|Thu@unaffiliated/spamithug/x-9927323) |
| 00:25.58 | *** join/#debian mischief (~mischief@unaffiliated/mischief) |
| 00:27.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 842] by debhelper |
| 00:27.16 | oreo | Tramp: iptables -t mangle -N DIVERT |
| 00:27.16 | oreo | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.52 | Tramp | ah. It's a chain you define |
| 00:28.24 | squisher | oreo, don't make the chain name all caps :) |
| 00:28.36 | Tramp | for obvious reasons .... |
| 00:28.58 | oreo | squisher: comes from stunnel doc |
| 00:29.10 | oreo | http://www.stunnel.org/faq/stunnel.html |
| 00:29.11 | squisher | nonetheless, it's confusing |
| 00:29.27 | squisher | divert will work just as well, and not be confusing ;-) |
| 00:29.29 | oreo | not my fault =) |
| 00:29.42 | Tramp | no. your fault is not mentioning that in the first place |
| 00:29.49 | *** join/#debian dansushi (~dan@147.4.211.193) |
| 00:56.30 | *** join/#debian apt (ibot@rikers.org) |
| 00:56.31 | *** topic/#debian is lenny (debian 5.0.4) released /msg dpkg lennyr4 | /msg dpkg etch->lenny | 4.0r8 released /msg dpkg etch | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | channel logs: http://purl.rikers.org/%23debian |
| 00:56.33 | BumbleBee | hewow? |
| 00:56.39 | *** join/#debian viejotren (~santiago@209.124.115.232) |
| 00:56.48 | BumbleBee | hihihihihihihihihi |
| 00:56.54 | BumbleBee | someone help me! |
| 00:56.59 | BumbleBee | please! |
| 00:57.12 | MrFahrenheit | no shrinks here |
| 00:57.15 | viejotren | hi, i have a question about the netinstall |
| 00:57.42 | BumbleBee | counselors. |
| 00:57.46 | viejotren | i'm loading the installation from my usb |
| 00:57.47 | *** join/#debian gusto (~gusto@141.30.205.88) |
| 00:57.51 | BumbleBee | will someone PLEASE help me!? |
| 00:58.02 | icebrain | !tell BumbleBee about ask |
| 00:58.06 | viejotren | in the installation is requesting for a cd rom drive |
| 00:58.12 | MrFahrenheit | damnit, I have your nick on my alert BumbleBee :@ |
| 00:58.23 | *** join/#debian sepult (~user@xdsl-87-78-131-9.netcologne.de) |
| 00:58.24 | BumbleBee | huh |
| 00:58.27 | viejotren | is there a command to load the installation from the usb? |
| 00:58.30 | BumbleBee | i don get it |
| 00:58.33 | viejotren | instead of cd rom |
| 00:58.48 | BumbleBee | STOP TALKING SO FAST!!!!!!! I AM BLONDE!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:58.49 | MrFahrenheit | someone on another server used it a long time ago, someone special :) |
| 00:58.57 | BumbleBee | me |
| 00:58.57 | icebrain | !ops BumbleBee |
| 00:58.58 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: icebrain complains about: BumbleBee |
| 00:58.59 | BumbleBee | im special\ |
| 00:59.06 | BumbleBee | haha |
| 00:59.09 | *** join/#debian LinuxISO (~ircap@187.131.40.1) |
| 00:59.10 | *** join/#debian infid (~infid@pool-108-0-31-223.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) |
| 00:59.11 | BumbleBee | ops icebrain |
| 00:59.17 | BumbleBee | blah blah |
| 00:59.18 | abrotman | BumbleBee: do you have a Debian related questoin ? |
| 00:59.28 | BumbleBee | whats debian!? |
| 00:59.32 | *** mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
| 00:59.35 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@97-124-189-7.hlrn.qwest.net] by abrotman |
| 00:59.37 | *** mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 00:59.47 | MrFahrenheit | :D |
| 00:59.49 | abrotman | BumbleBee: you've been silenced for 10 minutes. |
| 00:59.56 | Tux^verdreifelt | lol. |
| 00:59.57 | OldParr | why hen i write "mail user@domain < message.txt" it does not sends message.txt? |
| 01:00.13 | abrotman | OldParr: cat message.txt | mail user@domain |
| 01:00.40 | bagles | hows that better |
| 01:00.47 | LinuxISO | good afternoon to all |
| 01:00.49 | bagles | using 2 commands instead of 1 |
| 01:00.53 | hayleyw | it works, that's how |
| 01:01.12 | bagles | snippy |
| 01:03.09 | *** part/#debian LinuxISO (~ircap@187.131.40.1) |
| 01:04.13 | OldParr | abrotman: cat message.txt | mail user@domain odes not sends message.txt , do i have to start a mail daemon first? |
| 01:04.34 | abrotman | OldParr: you should have some way to get the mail off the system |
| 01:05.18 | OldParr | what is the name of the daemon that sends mails? |
| 01:06.01 | *** join/#debian wormintrude (~reaper@190.191.224.190) |
| 01:06.21 | *** join/#debian grandmoun (~piliman@encyclo014701-1-4.clients.easynet.fr) |
| 01:06.52 | *** join/#debian michael_burns (~nnscript@c-98-193-218-251.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 01:06.56 | michael_burns | Hello all |
| 01:07.29 | *** join/#debian sander (sander@214.136.34.95.customer.cdi.no) |
| 01:08.05 | *** join/#debian LaptopBrain (~brain@cpc2-mapp3-0-0-cust318.nott.cable.ntl.com) |
| 01:08.20 | *** join/#debian Aiden (~Aiden@adsl-75-34-81-220.dsl.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:08.27 | *** mode/#debian [+o abrotman] by ChanServ |
| 01:08.31 | *** mode/#debian [-b *!*@97-124-189-7.hlrn.qwest.net] by abrotman |
| 01:08.34 | *** mode/#debian [-o abrotman] by abrotman |
| 01:09.51 | *** join/#debian Aiden (~Aiden@75.34.81.220) |
| 01:10.39 | *** join/#debian Delf (~Delf@c-83-233-83-132.cust.bredband2.com) |
| 01:10.45 | *** join/#debian Delf (~Delf@unaffiliated/delf) |
| 01:12.29 | OldParr | do i have to install "sendmail" |
| 01:12.34 | OldParr | ? |
| 01:13.02 | simonrvn | OldParr: 'sendmail', per default. exim4 is likely the sendmail implementation that's installed. |
| 01:13.31 | simonrvn | there's a compatibility symlink for it in /usr/lib |
| 01:14.22 | OldParr | and sendemail ? |
| 01:14.46 | abrotman | OldParr: likely you didn't configure your smtp server to send somewhere else |
| 01:14.47 | TrueDD | Good night all |
| 01:15.27 | *** join/#debian fender0107401 (~fender010@219.243.32.29) |
| 01:15.28 | simonrvn | there is no 'sendemail' |
| 01:15.32 | simonrvn | g'night TrueDD |
| 01:15.55 | TrueDD | nite simonrvn |
| 01:16.37 | OldParr | sendemail is a tool to send email from console |
| 01:17.00 | *** part/#debian Alagar (~Administr@122.164.33.221) |
| 01:17.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 822] by debhelper |
| 01:17.03 | *** join/#debian yuastnav (~quassel@80.152.1.100) |
| 01:17.19 | michael_burns | whats a good way to remote into a debian server? |
| 01:17.21 | ranix | wow |
| 01:17.25 | michael_burns | I was using putty with x11 today |
| 01:17.26 | michael_burns | xming |
| 01:17.30 | ranix | why would one need "sendemail" when sendmail works perfectly fine |
| 01:17.32 | michael_burns | kept crashing on me tho |
| 01:17.51 | nevyn | michael_burns: ssh |
| 01:17.59 | michael_burns | I couldnt get it to work |
| 01:18.00 | michael_burns | dunno why |
| 01:18.24 | nevyn | michael_burns: oh.. I thought you said server. |
| 01:18.34 | *** join/#debian sepult (~user@xdsl-87-78-131-9.netcologne.de) |
| 01:18.37 | simonrvn | OldParr: people use mailx (mail binary) to do that |
| 01:18.41 | *** join/#debian benji01 (~benji@64.7.81.234) |
| 01:18.45 | michael_burns | I did lol |
| 01:18.53 | nevyn | if you want to ssh into a debian desktop then xvnc and remote X11 over ssh are reasonable options |
| 01:18.54 | michael_burns | didnt mean to |
| 01:18.56 | michael_burns | just a utl box |
| 01:19.00 | *** join/#debian bier (~bier@pD9E2E068.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:19.13 | michael_burns | k |
| 01:19.27 | *** join/#debian bier|tp (~bier@pD9E2E068.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:20.24 | *** join/#debian slidesinger (~slidesing@c-68-44-99-50.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 01:20.27 | nevyn | michael_burns: if you have slow connections vnc is probably going to be less bandwidth |
| 01:20.33 | nevyn | or you could look at NX |
| 01:20.47 | *** join/#debian dvs (~dvs@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 01:20.50 | michael_burns | yeah but that only allows one user at a time? |
| 01:21.11 | michael_burns | I was thinking something like xrdp |
| 01:21.15 | michael_burns | but didnt get around to it today |
| 01:22.42 | wols | michael_burns: http://www.ltsp.org/ |
| 01:22.46 | k\t | opear10.50 is nice.. |
| 01:22.53 | k\t | opera* |
| 01:23.12 | michael_burns | thx |
| 01:23.16 | mike-burns | michael_burns: Your username sure is something. |
| 01:23.25 | *** part/#debian OldParr (~wayuu@unaffiliated/oldparr) |
| 01:23.31 | *** join/#debian swygue (~rheron@p86-89.acedsl.com) |
| 01:23.36 | michael_burns | weird mike-burns |
| 01:23.37 | michael_burns | lol |
| 01:23.49 | DogBoy | imposters both |
| 01:23.50 | *** join/#debian fatalerrors (~Geoffray@78.239.149.27) |
| 01:24.12 | dvs | paranoia! |
| 01:24.50 | michael_burns | mike-burns where you from? |
| 01:25.00 | michael_burns | region/area |
| 01:25.04 | mike-burns | Boston. |
| 01:25.32 | michael_burns | Nashville |
| 01:25.43 | mike-burns | It's a pleasure to meet you, Mr. Burns. |
| 01:25.52 | michael_burns | excellent.... |
| 01:26.00 | simonrvn | omg |
| 01:26.04 | michael_burns | lol |
| 01:26.11 | mike-burns | Ha, we have the same inside jokes about our name. Of course. |
| 01:26.23 | *** join/#debian emachado (~edjunior@fsf/member/emachado) |
| 01:26.25 | *** join/#debian guyhoozdis (~chatzilla@cpe-72-177-48-254.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 01:27.11 | simonrvn | could be worse, could have 'hunt' as a last name |
| 01:27.11 | *** join/#debian acathur (~acathur@unaffiliated/acathur) |
| 01:27.23 | mike-burns | I actually knew a Mike Hunt. |
| 01:27.25 | dvs | simonrvn: I worked for a person with that name |
| 01:27.44 | mike-burns | I also know a Mike Hoydis, who asks you to call him Michael instead. |
| 01:27.46 | abrotman | !ot |
| 01:27.47 | dpkg | Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic (i.e. Debian support); imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. #debian-offtopic is the place for longer off-topic discussions. |
| 01:28.04 | simonrvn | yeh, yeh |
| 01:28.06 | michael_burns | or Mike Litorus |
| 01:28.28 | michael_burns | http://wtfurls.com/daily/images/586.jpg |
| 01:28.34 | simonrvn | switches windows |
| 01:28.49 | abrotman | michael_burns: #debian-offtopic .. thanks |
| 01:28.51 | michael_burns | done |
| 01:29.29 | guyhoozdis | Hello, I'm trying to upgrade the kernel in an old system. I haven't done that in a while and was hoping for some guidance. |
| 01:29.42 | guyhoozdis | uname -r ==> 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 01:29.55 | *** join/#debian martianixor (~martianix@unaffiliated/martiancode) |
| 01:30.09 | simonrvn | pick a kernel after aptitude update and switching to current stable, and install it. |
| 01:30.10 | *** join/#debian FelipeMcMont (~felipe@187.59.123.77) |
| 01:30.15 | guyhoozdis | I think I am having a problem because my sources.list says stable, but that would be stable for the latest distro and I have an old distro. |
| 01:30.18 | dvs | I haven't seen that kernel version for debian |
| 01:30.19 | simonrvn | and read the lenny release notes |
| 01:30.22 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: dpkg -l libc6 .. what is the version ? |
| 01:30.26 | *** join/#debian zinx (~zinx@unaffiliated/zinx) |
| 01:30.28 | simonrvn | !lenny release notes |
| 01:30.29 | dpkg | it has been said that lenny release notes is at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/releasenotes . See also http://bugs.debian.org/release-notes and http://wiki.debian.org/NewInLenny . Also ask me about <i-g>, <installer firmware>, <etch->lenny key>, <errata>. |
| 01:30.36 | k\t | or compile the latest from http://kernel.org |
| 01:30.54 | abrotman | or .. see which version of debian he's running before you suggest all kinds of crazy things |
| 01:31.17 | simonrvn | i'm a mind reader, or did you forget? :P |
| 01:31.19 | guyhoozdis | oddly enough, that's the package that I"m having trouble updating... trying to "apt-get -f install" to get libc |
| 01:31.23 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: dpkg -l libc6 .. what is the version ? |
| 01:31.24 | k\t | abrotman: lol |
| 01:31.29 | abrotman | k\t: this is funny? |
| 01:31.36 | k\t | no... |
| 01:31.40 | k\t | wait.. |
| 01:31.42 | k\t | idk |
| 01:31.43 | guyhoozdis | 2.3.6.ds1-13etch9+b1 |
| 01:31.47 | dvs | the "crazy things" kinda was |
| 01:31.54 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: what is the CPU ? |
| 01:32.03 | k\t | dvs: lolz |
| 01:32.17 | simonrvn | see, i knew it was etch. didn't say it, so it doesn't count. |
| 01:32.32 | dvs | !beer simonrvn |
| 01:32.33 | dpkg | pours a litre of Gulden Drak for simonrvn |
| 01:33.00 | k\t | abrotman has the best solutin then... update etc/apt/sources.list to current stable, testing, or unstable,.... and run a full upgrade... |
| 01:33.01 | guyhoozdis | Pentum III (Katmai) |
| 01:33.11 | k\t | solution* |
| 01:33.14 | abrotman | k\t: i NEVER said that .. don't pretend i did |
| 01:33.22 | simonrvn | he didn't say that |
| 01:33.22 | dvs | k\t: let him work his magic |
| 01:33.24 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: aptitude install linux-image-686 |
| 01:33.41 | k\t | lol, abrotman: sorry man... geez |
| 01:33.54 | abrotman | would hope he wouldn't say that either |
| 01:33.58 | simonrvn | dvs: it's called procedure :P |
| 01:34.10 | dvs | simonrvn: oh? ;-) |
| 01:34.28 | simonrvn | anyway, i'll stop acting silly now |
| 01:34.36 | guyhoozdis | thanks. Q: Can I always reference the latest kernel with that package name? |
| 01:34.37 | dvs | I won't |
| 01:34.41 | simonrvn | hehe |
| 01:34.43 | k\t | how about this one - ok abrotman has the best solution then... update your kernel using aptitude... |
| 01:34.50 | k\t | cheers? |
| 01:34.50 | guyhoozdis | apt-cache search linux-image-686 |
| 01:34.52 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: it will get you the latest -686 kernel for your current version of debian |
| 01:34.55 | abrotman | k\t: just shut it already ... |
| 01:34.57 | simonrvn | guyhoozdis: as long as that applies yes |
| 01:35.02 | k\t | abrotman =( |
| 01:35.19 | dvs | k\t: don't let that magic turn into voodoo |
| 01:35.21 | k\t | abrotman: =`(```` |
| 01:35.22 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: aptitude install linux-image-686 .. not apt-cache |
| 01:35.33 | guyhoozdis | I've never used apt to update a kernel before. It's been a long time since I've done make, make install, ... |
| 01:35.44 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: what kind of machine is this ? |
| 01:35.51 | k\t | thought it was more like witchcraft... where'd the voodoo come from? |
| 01:35.58 | simonrvn | 20:33:01 guyhoozdis | Pentum III (Katmai) |
| 01:36.11 | dvs | k\t: the powers of chanserv! |
| 01:36.15 | guyhoozdis | yeah, for installing it. Will I have to update my kernel again when it goes to 2.7? Will I find that image in the same way? |
| 01:36.25 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: you mean if it goes to 2.7 ? |
| 01:36.28 | k\t | dvs: lol... |
| 01:36.39 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: once this is done .. you should also ask us how to upgrade to lenny |
| 01:37.33 | k\t | yep, latest kern. seems to be 2.6.33-rc8 |
| 01:37.40 | guyhoozdis | is lenny latest stable? |
| 01:37.47 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: let's worry about your kernel first |
| 01:38.28 | guyhoozdis | The apt-get install linux-image-686 fails in the same way my previous attempts have. |
| 01:38.41 | *** join/#debian kyrix (~ashley@41.92.4.16) |
| 01:38.46 | guyhoozdis | It suggests that I apt-get -f install. |
| 01:39.03 | *** join/#debian kW_ (~kW@pD9EAEF7C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:39.27 | kW_ | Hello! How is it possible to get apache 2.2.7 (or later) for debian etch? |
| 01:39.29 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: so do that .. and then put the results in http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 01:39.34 | Amarande | abrotman: what is the next planned kernel tree, anyway? |
| 01:39.39 | abrotman | kW_: etch no longer has security support |
| 01:39.40 | Amarande | or is 2.6 to be linux-final? |
| 01:39.50 | *** join/#debian joules2 (~joules@ppp59-167-189-186.static.internode.on.net) |
| 01:39.57 | guyhoozdis | If I want to go from my current kernel all the way to lenny, shoud I set my sources.list to reference "etch" instead of stable. |
| 01:40.04 | abrotman | Amarande: NFC .. if they're not going to have a 2.7/8 .. why not just switch to a different versioning system |
| 01:40.10 | kW_ | abrotman: I know, but unfortunately, I cannot upgrade immediately to lenny |
| 01:40.15 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: what are they currently ? |
| 01:40.21 | guyhoozdis | This system has been sitting in a corner for a long time. |
| 01:40.27 | dvs | Amarande: the next testing branch will be 2.7. But I can't see that for the forseeable future. |
| 01:40.41 | dvs | *should |
| 01:40.54 | guyhoozdis | .../debian/ stable main |
| 01:40.57 | k\t | dvs: what kernel are you running? |
| 01:41.01 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: change it from stable to 'etch' |
| 01:41.02 | *** join/#debian albondi (~albondee@99-144-131-76.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:41.07 | dvs | 2.6.32-trunk-686 |
| 01:41.28 | k\t | cool |
| 01:42.20 | guyhoozdis | once changed should I run through apt-get clean all; apt-get update? |
| 01:43.17 | dvs | clean all? |
| 01:43.21 | *** join/#debian rainofkayos (~rainofkay@cpe-66-65-51-242.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 01:47.16 | guyhoozdis | thanks for your help abrotman,it is progressing now. When this is done can I change the sources.list back to stable to make it to lenny? |
| 01:47.25 | *** join/#debian histo (~histo@unaffiliated/histo) |
| 01:47.35 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: no, you'll ask us when you're done .. and it has booted that kernel |
| 01:47.56 | histo | Is it possible yet to do a netinstall over wifi? Or am I reading this correct that wlan is not supported? |
| 01:48.10 | abrotman | histo: depends on your wifi device |
| 01:48.15 | dvs | histo: it is possible but a lot of wifi drivers are not supported |
| 01:48.58 | histo | dvs: abrotman ahh ty for the response its a intel wireless card so hopefully its supported. |
| 01:49.09 | sparr | I am trying to do "javaws somefile.jnlp" but it complains that /home/sparr/.netx/cache/http/somewebsite/dir/somefile.jnlp doesn't exist (which it doesn't). when i copy it there, i get more java exceptions about other cached jnlp files being missing (resources required by the one I am trying to run). What could be wrong with the downloader/cache? |
| 01:49.12 | abrotman | histo: it does require firmware |
| 01:49.12 | histo | I can't remember if it was debian that I was having an issue with WPA2 during install or some other distro. |
| 01:49.17 | abrotman | !tell histo about installer firmware |
| 01:49.26 | histo | abrotman: yeah but its in kernel. |
| 01:49.34 | abrotman | oh, not sure about WPA, though you can work around that temporarily by disabling encryption |
| 01:49.39 | abrotman | histo: no, it's not in the debian kernel |
| 01:50.07 | histo | What about connecting to WPA2 with the installer? |
| 01:50.34 | abrotman | never tried myself .. |
| 01:51.04 | Zharf | I'm pretty sure I used wpa2 when I installed my debian on this laptop |
| 01:51.16 | histo | K i guess I'll jsut have to give it a go. |
| 01:51.28 | *** join/#debian sepult (~user@xdsl-87-78-131-9.netcologne.de) |
| 01:51.29 | Zharf | but I used the dev version o fthe installer |
| 01:51.33 | Zharf | not the "stable" one |
| 01:51.38 | *** join/#debian no_Dat (~dercovice@direct-soho-210-158-14.cbn.net.id) |
| 01:51.39 | histo | Zharf: you mean testing? |
| 01:51.52 | Raydiation | hm which file do i have to install to extract tar.bz2 files? |
| 01:51.53 | guyhoozdis | before I reboot... there was a mention that I should purge the hotplug package /etc/init.d/hotplug |
| 01:51.55 | Zharf | histo, whatever it is, I installed sid straight up |
| 01:52.24 | guyhoozdis | That's just apt-get remove --purge hotplug? right? |
| 01:52.26 | histo | trying to find the netinstall for testing right now. I get confused on the debian.org |
| 01:53.42 | *** join/#debian msaizar (~martin@r190-135-140-165.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 01:54.13 | histo | I don't understand why they make it so difficult to find their iso's |
| 01:54.26 | Raydiation | ah ok, its bzip2 |
| 01:55.12 | simonrvn | CD.debian.org |
| 01:55.25 | abrotman | histo: debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 01:56.16 | histo | abrotman: Thank you been looking for a while. |
| 01:58.55 | *** join/#debian umarzuki (~umarzuki@121.120.165.228) |
| 02:01.05 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: no need to msg me me ... |
| 02:01.33 | abrotman | !tell guyhoozdis about etch->lenny |
| 02:03.04 | guyhoozdis | thx, abrotman. I'll follow those steps now. |
| 02:03.57 | *** join/#debian nhandler (~nhandler@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nhandler) |
| 02:04.15 | *** join/#debian hid3 (~tst@lan-78-157-71-116.vln.skynet.lt) |
| 02:05.12 | *** join/#debian Sememmon (~Sememmon@unaffiliated/sememmon) |
| 02:06.20 | umarzuki | hi, what jind of help and expertise is needed in order to help "...invest more time into making Squeeze the best Debian release ever" as per this message http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/02/msg00002.html |
| 02:06.35 | umarzuki | s/jind/kind |
| 02:07.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 815] by debhelper |
| 02:08.32 | *** join/#debian cubuanic (~cubuanic@gate.cub.org.ua) |
| 02:09.29 | cubuanic | hello guys. i there any way to make somethng like dpkg-divert, but for whole package, instead of only one file? |
| 02:09.32 | histo | can wget be brought back after using the -b option? |
| 02:09.41 | cubuanic | histo: no |
| 02:10.18 | *** join/#debian eledesmar (~eledesmar@190.166.102.40) |
| 02:11.14 | *** join/#debian Frantic (~Frantic@unaffiliated/frantic225) |
| 02:11.29 | histo | hrm.. thats a bummer |
| 02:11.39 | Frantic | guys, any idea what happened to python-xlwt in lenny? http://packages.debian.org/unstable/python/python-xlwt |
| 02:11.40 | abrotman | histo: it'll finish eventually |
| 02:11.56 | abrotman | cubuanic: what exactly are you trying to do ? |
| 02:12.04 | *** join/#debian neosmatrix_ (~neo@ip-95-222-24-16.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 02:12.22 | *** join/#debian dobie_gillis (~nnyby@accweb.evergreen.edu) |
| 02:12.39 | cubuanic | what i want to acheinve, really: i need install packages, that depends on php4, but i have them use (already installed) php5. so i just want to have something like virtual-package php4 installed, when php5 is really installed. sorry, i know - my english is not ideal :) |
| 02:12.53 | cubuanic | hope you understood my intentions |
| 02:13.28 | *** join/#debian afurlan (~afurlan@189.34.72.40) |
| 02:13.29 | cubuanic | to be more concrete: i want to install software from http://dl.gna.org/savane/debian/ on lenny |
| 02:13.54 | abrotman | !tell cubuanic about equivs |
| 02:14.20 | histo | I probably shouldn't have used the -q option then so I can check its status, other that just checking file size. |
| 02:14.50 | cubuanic | abrotman: excellent! thanks, exactly what i need :) |
| 02:15.10 | *** join/#debian robocop (~paket@91.205.168.14) |
| 02:15.49 | abrotman | wonders about the wisdom of using something that still depends on php4 |
| 02:16.03 | abrotman | histo: ls -l .. look at the size ? |
| 02:16.14 | histo | abrotman: That's what i'm doing |
| 02:16.35 | abrotman | histo: 'watch ls -l <foofile>' |
| 02:16.56 | *** join/#debian usrlocalbin (~usrlocalb@24-107-215-193.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) |
| 02:17.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 821] by debhelper |
| 02:17.15 | sparr | Something on my debian box is preventing all java apps, locally installed or trying to download javaws files, from accessing the internet. "java.net.SocketException: Network is unreachable" is the common error. What could cause this? |
| 02:18.01 | *** join/#debian poisonbit (~poisonbit@83.173.181.169.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 02:18.32 | *** join/#debian sepult (~user@xdsl-87-78-131-9.netcologne.de) |
| 02:18.33 | abrotman | sparr: this is well known |
| 02:18.55 | abrotman | dpkg: dbugs 560056 |
| 02:18.59 | dpkg | #560056:I[openjdk-6] net.ipv6.bindv6only=1 breaks java networking (); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:12:09 UTC [560142] |
| 02:19.14 | abrotman | !tell sparr about bts |
| 02:22.14 | cubuanic | abrotman: one more question. as i see in control file of libapache2-mod-php5, it conflicts with libapache2-mod-php4 - so i can't create dummy libapache2-mod-php4 package. what i can do ?... |
| 02:22.21 | *** join/#debian poisonbit (~poisonbit@83.173.181.169.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 02:23.07 | abrotman | cubuanic: that's a bit more sticky .. why not just download the src packgae for whatever you're trying to install and alter that control file ? |
| 02:23.48 | et | what's the name of the subsystem that does uid <-> username etc lookups? |
| 02:23.49 | cubuanic | i already downloaded source of savane, and tried create debs, and failed |
| 02:24.33 | *** join/#debian simula (~mark@c-24-16-132-121.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 02:24.47 | abrotman | cubuanic: but they have a debian package available ? |
| 02:25.24 | cubuanic | so,you propose download packages, de-package deb's, patch control files, pack packages back, and then install? |
| 02:25.34 | squisher | et, pam maybe, which by default goes back to /etc/passwd |
| 02:25.49 | abrotman | cubuanic: sounds easier than whatever you're trying to do :) |
| 02:25.49 | cubuanic | well.. i think already about this way, but i hoped that there is more simpler way exists.... |
| 02:25.54 | *** join/#debian k\t (~]r@cpe-76-90-162-150.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 02:26.06 | cubuanic | seems we have different definitoon of "simple" :) |
| 02:26.18 | cubuanic | anyway thanks! |
| 02:26.25 | cubuanic | seems i have no other way... |
| 02:26.35 | abrotman | cubuanic: what does savane do ? |
| 02:26.40 | cubuanic | wow |
| 02:26.59 | cubuanic | https://savannah.nongnu.org/ , for example |
| 02:27.09 | cubuanic | and https://savannah.gnu.org/ also :) |
| 02:27.19 | abrotman | isn't savannah also open source ? |
| 02:27.36 | cubuanic | yes, it's open source |
| 02:27.40 | sparr | abrotman: your idea of "well known" seems faulty |
| 02:27.44 | Amarande | hmm |
| 02:27.53 | Amarande | why does my debian box do a DHCP request every like ... 10-30 seconds? |
| 02:27.59 | abrotman | sparr: it's been in the topic of the -devel channel for .. a month? |
| 02:28.03 | joules2 | i'm trying to mount an image and it just says mount: Operation not supported |
| 02:28.08 | cubuanic | as i said already, i tried to download sources and build debs, and failed |
| 02:28.12 | abrotman | sparr: and apt-listbugs would have shown you also |
| 02:28.25 | *** join/#debian Parabola (~orly@cpe-71-79-248-233.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 02:28.42 | abrotman | or using the BTS at all .. |
| 02:28.44 | sparr | Amarande: how long is the DHCP lease good for? |
| 02:28.52 | joules2 | this command "mount home.img -o loop oldhome/" isnot working? |
| 02:28.58 | *** join/#debian blakkheim (~slax@unaffiliated/blakkheim) |
| 02:29.47 | abrotman | joules2: mount -o loop foo.img oldhome/ ? |
| 02:29.56 | Amarande | wow, default lease time is 600 and max 7200 apparently. I didn't configgle that :| |
| 02:30.07 | Amarande | but unless that's in tenths of seconds or something ... *scratches head* |
| 02:30.14 | sparr | abrotman: since you feel the need to press the point, what would you suggest a less savvy user do to diagnose the problem, when the only symptom is "java web start apps don't start"? it took me a half hour of installing new JREs and running things from the console to figure out it was a networking issue. |
| 02:30.14 | joules2 | abrotman: yeh not working...i think it works in unstable. |
| 02:30.29 | abrotman | sparr: not use testing/unstable .. enjoy |
| 02:30.43 | sparr | ha |
| 02:31.01 | abrotman | sparr: you appear to be less savvy .. hopefully you'll use stable from now on |
| 02:31.02 | sparr | if i wanted packages 6-20 months out of date, I'd use ubuntu |
| 02:31.08 | abrotman | please do |
| 02:31.26 | abrotman | joules2: file home.img .. what does it say ? |
| 02:31.55 | joules2 | ReiserFS V3.6 |
| 02:32.28 | Amarande | sparr: I apparently have no dhclient.leases file |
| 02:32.39 | abrotman | joules2: so you're sure you want to mount it loopback ? |
| 02:32.59 | joules2 | how else can I mount it? |
| 02:33.37 | joules2 | its worked before. |
| 02:33.41 | joules2 | hmm |
| 02:34.14 | cubuanic | abrotman: tell me please, how i can depack deb and pack it back?... |
| 02:34.51 | *** join/#debian CAiRO (~tooar@p4FC213BC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:35.23 | joules2 | even "mount /dev/loop0 /mnt/" gives me "mount: Operation not supported" |
| 02:35.25 | *** join/#debian kj4 (~kj4kjl@adsl-235-64-163.clt.bellsouth.net) |
| 02:35.46 | abrotman | cubuanic: a .deb is just an 'ar' archive .. ar x foo.deb .. then tar -zxf control.tar.gz .. |
| 02:36.07 | *** join/#debian kyzz (~kyzz@c-71-63-176-121.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 02:36.45 | cubuanic | thanks |
| 02:37.00 | *** join/#debian simonp (~simonp@206.167.169.8) |
| 02:37.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 815] by debhelper |
| 02:38.52 | *** join/#debian comradekingu (~comradeki@188.113.124.49) |
| 02:40.56 | *** join/#debian sepult (~user@xdsl-87-78-131-9.netcologne.de) |
| 02:43.03 | cubuanic | abrotman: could i ask one more question, please? |
| 02:43.08 | guyhoozdis | abrotman: I am following the instructions you pointed me to. I have completed aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade). Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and change all non-local mentions of "etch" to "lenny". aptitude update; aptitude install aptitude; aptitude safe-upgrade. |
| 02:43.19 | abrotman | and ? |
| 02:43.23 | cubuanic | i'm trying to pack deb bak: ar -c savane-frontend_3.0+2_all.deb debian-binary control.tar.gz data.tar.gz |
| 02:43.24 | abrotman | cubuanic: just ask |
| 02:43.33 | cubuanic | and got: ar: no operation specified |
| 02:43.35 | guyhoozdis | The safe-upgrade had some errors, |
| 02:43.44 | abrotman | cubuanic: i think it's just 'ar c' |
| 02:43.44 | cubuanic | where i'm wrong? |
| 02:43.49 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: use a pastebin |
| 02:43.52 | cubuanic | tried too |
| 02:43.59 | guyhoozdis | suggested: dpkg --configure -a |
| 02:44.13 | Amarande | what's savane? |
| 02:44.23 | Amarande | last time I saw that name was as a brand on ... a pair of mens' dress pants I think |
| 02:44.30 | guyhoozdis | That also failed. |
| 02:45.20 | guyhoozdis | If I try to run aptitude full-upgrade I get the error "dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." |
| 02:46.37 | cubuanic | abrotman: very strange, man ar said about "ar c", but running just "ar" i get help and see that i need use "ar q" - and it works! back magic |
| 02:46.45 | abrotman | okay |
| 02:46.51 | cubuanic | *black magic |
| 02:46.58 | cubuanic | thanks for all, man! |
| 02:46.59 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: so do that |
| 02:47.55 | guyhoozdis | update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-6-686... gzip: stdout: No space left on device... update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-6-686 |
| 02:48.19 | guyhoozdis | I do a df and see the boot partition at 90% |
| 02:49.15 | guyhoozdis | 1.5M avail in /boot 15M total. |
| 02:49.53 | *** join/#debian martianixor (~martianix@unaffiliated/martiancode) |
| 02:51.00 | guyhoozdis | Am I buggered? |
| 02:51.50 | *** join/#debian wols_ (~klingens@p549DF0B8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:52.41 | Amarande | your boot partition is too small |
| 02:52.54 | guyhoozdis | http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/4c07267f93d6a453?pli=1 |
| 02:53.04 | Amarande | heck, my boot partition USES 22M, and that's just a recently installed lenny machine |
| 02:53.14 | Amarande | 'course, I went overboard and gave my /boot 137M |
| 02:53.32 | Amarande | but with 500GB I can afford such excesses |
| 02:54.53 | *** join/#debian contrains (~contrains@dsl001-161-007.stl1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 02:54.54 | guyhoozdis | Is there a way to get around this without resizing my /boot. Is this just a problem during the upgrade (old+new) or do I just need more space for lenny. |
| 02:55.11 | guyhoozdis | Am I looking at resizing some partitions no matter what? |
| 02:57.48 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: dpkg -l linux-image* | egrep "^ii" .. how many are there ? |
| 02:58.37 | guyhoozdis | looks like 3 |
| 02:58.51 | guyhoozdis | do you want me to list what I see here? |
| 03:00.12 | abrotman | how about "dpkg -l kernel-image* | egrep "^ii" ? |
| 03:00.38 | guyhoozdis | 0? |
| 03:00.42 | guyhoozdis | Is that right? |
| 03:01.17 | abrotman | could be |
| 03:01.23 | abrotman | so which three do you have installed ? |
| 03:01.32 | *** join/#debian _knight (~knight@d14-69-254-218.try.wideopenwest.com) |
| 03:01.32 | *** join/#debian dvs (~dvs@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 03:01.46 | guyhoozdis | w/o the egrep I do see: ri kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 2.4.27-10 Linux kernel image for version 2.4.27 on 386 |
| 03:02.07 | guyhoozdis | uname -r ==> 2.6.18-6-686 |
| 03:02.18 | dvs | looks like lenny |
| 03:02.26 | abrotman | dvs: uh .. really? |
| 03:02.36 | dvs | oh, 26 is lenny |
| 03:02.43 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: you should be able to remove any package that begins with kernel-image* |
| 03:02.49 | dvs | goes back to watch hockey |
| 03:03.30 | *** join/#debian Aiden (~Aiden@174.32.154.79) |
| 03:03.37 | guyhoozdis | Should I use dpkg or just delete files? apt-get remove? |
| 03:04.35 | abrotman | use dpkg |
| 03:08.13 | guyhoozdis | what's the difference between "linux-image*" and "kernel-image*"? |
| 03:08.25 | dvs | guyhoozdis: linux-image is the new name |
| 03:08.31 | abrotman | older nomenclature .. |
| 03:09.03 | _knight | I'm using squeeze, after some recent update my xserver-xorg can't start, Xorg.0.log reports errors on ioctl, I found a bug report on bugs.debian.org, #567491 |
| 03:09.07 | _knight | but it's closed |
| 03:09.23 | _knight | the comment said the it's not a bug |
| 03:09.49 | _knight | the input devices were loaded twice, once as /dev/input/event* and once as /dev/input/mouse* |
| 03:10.06 | guyhoozdis | Ok, I think I need to run "dpkg --remove --purge kernel-image kernel-image-2.4 kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386" |
| 03:10.33 | _knight | seems like I need to tweak udev rules, but several attempts all failed, any pointer on this? |
| 03:10.42 | dvs | !tell RedPepper about away |
| 03:10.51 | guyhoozdis | The description and version are empty for the first two packages though. Are they just pointers to the third package? |
| 03:10.54 | abrotman | not an away ? |
| 03:11.08 | RedPepper | yeah |
| 03:11.14 | RedPepper | i saw the notice |
| 03:11.22 | RedPepper | will disable it |
| 03:12.25 | dvs | guyhoozdis: the second one is a virtual package. NOt sure about the first |
| 03:12.49 | _knight | any one can help me understand solution to bug #567491? much appreciated |
| 03:13.09 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: you odn't need any of them |
| 03:13.37 | guyhoozdis | I did "dpkg --purge kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386" only. Now all the version and description are empty, but still listed. |
| 03:14.11 | abrotman | shold be 'pn' ? |
| 03:14.14 | abrotman | should |
| 03:14.26 | guyhoozdis | It used to say "ri" in front of the "kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386". Yeah, now it says "pn" |
| 03:14.36 | guyhoozdis | "un" in front of the other two. |
| 03:14.40 | abrotman | okay .. do you have enough space to continue your 'dpkg --configure -a' ? |
| 03:15.15 | guyhoozdis | df says /boot %54 now. lemme try dpkg again. |
| 03:16.39 | guyhoozdis | Yep. It worked. I'm going to try aptitude full-upgrade again now |
| 03:17.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 808] by debhelper |
| 03:17.14 | *** join/#debian streuner__ (foobar@p5DD3A9AC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 03:17.27 | *** join/#debian pascal__ (~quassel@maginot.pagali.net) |
| 03:24.46 | guyhoozdis | abrotman: thanks for all your help. I was able to complete all the steps you provided with no errors now. |
| 03:25.04 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: did you finish your 'full-upgrade' ? |
| 03:25.20 | guyhoozdis | Indeed. Do I need to do anything else? |
| 03:26.21 | abrotman | reboot to activate your new kernel |
| 03:26.42 | guyhoozdis | ... I have been logged in via ssh all this time, maybe ... yeah. I'll reboot. |
| 03:26.53 | *** join/#debian bluejeans (~shiverous@70-41-194-235.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 03:27.32 | *** join/#debian YeTr2 (~YeTr2@pool-173-78-24-5.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) |
| 03:28.33 | *** join/#debian eledesmar (~eledesmar@190.166.102.40) |
| 03:28.43 | guyhoozdis | and I'm back in! |
| 03:28.45 | Amarande | hmm, will there be boot time errors when booting a machine that is the DHCP server on its network, if it is itself set up to receive its IP via DHCP? |
| 03:29.02 | dvs | guyhoozdis: uname -r |
| 03:29.10 | guyhoozdis | 2.6.18-6-686 |
| 03:29.13 | dvs | yay |
| 03:29.13 | Amarande | or will network-manager handle it fine, since dhcpd3 binds to * and it'll detect it |
| 03:30.09 | *** join/#debian Aiden (~Aiden@174.32.154.79) |
| 03:30.15 | abrotman | dvs: that's still the etch kernel |
| 03:30.42 | dvs | abrotman: isnt that what he wanted? |
| 03:30.56 | abrotman | he's trying to get to lenny |
| 03:30.58 | guyhoozdis | I put lenny in my sources.list |
| 03:31.18 | dvs | oh. boo ;-) |
| 03:31.34 | guyhoozdis | so, what should I do? |
| 03:32.07 | guyhoozdis | running apt-get upgrade now |
| 03:32.08 | dvs | guyhoozdis: and linux-image-2.6-686 is installed |
| 03:32.13 | Amarande | anyway. dhcp lease lengths set to 2000000 & dhclient properly run, I should see no more flooding on messages. :) |
| 03:32.13 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: is there a .26 kernel in /boot/ ? |
| 03:36.05 | *** join/#debian D-Boy (~Geek@unaffiliated/cain) |
| 03:38.13 | guyhoozdis | I see /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-6-686 |
| 03:38.30 | dvs | guyhoozdis: any others? |
| 03:39.03 | guyhoozdis | No. I saw some earlier, but they appear to be gone now. |
| 03:39.31 | dvs | guyhoozdis: I'd get the new kernel before doing the upgrade. |
| 03:39.41 | guyhoozdis | I just completed a apt-get upgrade... uh-oh |
| 03:39.57 | dvs | guyhoozdis: just install it now before you upgrade. |
| 03:40.04 | dvs | i mean reboot |
| 03:40.24 | guyhoozdis | well, I tried before the reboot. update then upgrade. nothing. Then reboot. update, upgrade... many things... ok I'll reboot again. |
| 03:40.32 | dvs | NO |
| 03:40.41 | dvs | install the new kernel first. |
| 03:40.57 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: you sohuld be using aptitude |
| 03:41.21 | guyhoozdis | ok. apt-get is old way? |
| 03:41.28 | dvs | yes |
| 03:42.06 | Zharf | apt-get is just as good, aptitude just tends to install a lot of useless crap |
| 03:42.21 | Zharf | by default anyway |
| 03:42.59 | *** join/#debian debtime (~steven@c-76-16-209-81.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 03:43.17 | guyhoozdis | so, I'm back in. uname -r ==> 2.6.18-6-686. You're telling me I'm still running etch? |
| 03:43.33 | *** join/#debian syn-ack (~meskes@unaffiliated/syn-ack) |
| 03:43.39 | dvs | guyhoozdis: you still have the etch kernel |
| 03:43.46 | *** join/#debian zzz_ (~ZzZz@CPE0016cbc604c2-CM001868e7d190.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 03:44.05 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: aptitude install linux-image-686 |
| 03:44.17 | abrotman | Zharf: no, apt-get is not just as good |
| 03:44.29 | Zharf | it's better! I knew it! |
| 03:44.37 | abrotman | !tell Zharf about why aptitude |
| 03:44.37 | dvs | heh |
| 03:45.00 | Zharf | aptitude fails on install ttf-* |
| 03:45.11 | guyhoozdis | !tell guyhoozdis about why aptitude |
| 03:45.22 | abrotman | Zharf: you did it wrong |
| 03:45.33 | Zharf | abrotman, no, I did it like it's supposed to be done |
| 03:45.42 | Zharf | liek it's done with apt-get! |
| 03:46.14 | Zharf | but I still don't like it trying to install all that extra |
| 03:46.16 | abrotman | Zharf: It is recommended that users use aptitude .. this is recommended by people that know far more than you (including how to use aptitude, you clearly do not) |
| 03:46.17 | guyhoozdis | 1 broken [+1], 47 updates [-1]. |
| 03:46.25 | Zharf | and the extra tiem it takes to do stuff |
| 03:46.41 | Zharf | abrotman, or so you assume |
| 03:46.43 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: i thought you said you'd finished your upgrade ? |
| 03:46.57 | *** join/#debian Tommy_DO (~asdf@i59F5D7D6.versanet.de) |
| 03:46.57 | abrotman | Zharf: you just showed you do not, or you'd have used the correct command |
| 03:47.16 | *** join/#debian ^nHiMoEtZ^_9IRL (~a7Laa_Kuw@95.66.6.22) |
| 03:47.16 | *** join/#debian jamieleshaw (~jamielesh@119.17.139.241) |
| 03:47.21 | *** part/#debian abrotman (~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman) |
| 03:47.21 | *** join/#debian abrotman (~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman) |
| 03:47.36 | *** part/#debian abrotman (~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman) |
| 03:47.37 | *** join/#debian abrotman (~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman) |
| 03:47.38 | Zharf | well when aptitude was introduced it was supposed to work in the same way apt-get did |
| 03:47.41 | jamieleshaw | Anyone know were I can find a THC Hydra deb? |
| 03:47.45 | guyhoozdis | I did. Here is what I have done... back when I had "etch" in sources.list I did "aptitude update; aptitude dist-upgrade" then changed "etch" to lenny and did aptitude update; aptitude install aptitude; aptitude safe-upgrade; aptitude full-upgrade. |
| 03:47.46 | Zharf | except it was a lot slower (still is!) |
| 03:48.23 | Zharf | I never bothered to check the "real way" of doing that anyway, there's no reason for me to use aptitude |
| 03:48.23 | guyhoozdis | The full-upgrade completed, with your help, and I find myself here. |
| 03:48.28 | mischief | jamieleshaw, why not just compile it |
| 03:48.28 | abrotman | kde is slower than ratpoison .. people still use it ... |
| 03:48.39 | abrotman | guyhoozdis: do the full-upgrade again |
| 03:48.53 | jamieleshaw | mischief, It doesn't compile on Ubuntu 9.10 |
| 03:48.54 | dvs | guyhoozdis: so, aptitude install linux-image-686 should get you the new kernel |
| 03:49.15 | abrotman | jamieleshaw: ask #ubuntu, this channel is for Debian support |
| 03:49.24 | mischief | jamieleshaw, you're in the wrong channel then |
| 03:49.32 | jamieleshaw | I did, they said it's not supported |
| 03:49.42 | abrotman | so you come to #debian ? what is wrong with you? |
| 03:49.46 | mischief | jamieleshaw, and saying 'it doesnt X' does not help anyone solve the problem, least of all you. :p |
| 03:49.47 | *** join/#debian YuK_Ota (~yuk_ota@p1107-ipbf01otsu.shiga.ocn.ne.jp) |
| 03:50.06 | jamieleshaw | thanks anyway |
| 03:50.07 | abrotman | jamieleshaw: you're offtopic in #debian, go to #ubuntu or ##linux |
| 03:50.08 | *** part/#debian jamieleshaw (~jamielesh@119.17.139.241) |
| 03:51.41 | *** join/#debian ishady (~ninja@59.95.68.38) |
| 03:52.16 | *** join/#debian Lava1981 (~lava2009-@ppp109-111-131-131.tis-dialog.ru) |
| 03:52.17 | *** part/#debian abrotman (~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman) |
| 03:52.17 | *** join/#debian abrotman (~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman) |
| 03:52.38 | *** part/#debian simonp (~simonp@206.167.169.8) |
| 03:52.43 | Lava1981 | FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111 : ))))) |
| 03:52.50 | dvs | see ya |
| 03:52.56 | nevyn | !ops |
| 03:52.56 | dpkg | it has been said that ops is Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the ops to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. |
| 03:53.11 | *** mode/#debian [+o sivel] by ChanServ |
| 03:53.11 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@ppp109-111-131-131.tis-dialog.ru] by sivel |
| 03:53.11 | *** part/#debian Lava1981 (~lava2009-@ppp109-111-131-131.tis-dialog.ru) |
| 03:53.11 | *** mode/#debian [-o sivel] by sivel |
| 03:53.21 | nevyn | :) |
| 03:56.57 | *** join/#debian tobias (~tobias@12.154.28.10) |
| 03:57.14 | SerajewelKS | what is the ssh group in debian for exactly? |
| 03:58.52 | *** join/#debian KDE4000 (~andrew@131.191.22.55) |
| 03:58.54 | *** join/#debian KDE4000 (~andrew@unaffiliated/kde4000) |
| 03:58.57 | abrotman | ssh-agent perhaps ? |
| 03:59.30 | *** join/#debian lanthan__ (~ze@p54B7E6F1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 04:00.06 | *** join/#debian MarGarina (~orenhe@12.154.28.10) |
| 04:00.31 | *** join/#debian weber (locust@219.70.220.82) |
| 04:01.18 | *** join/#debian SauLus (~SauLus@c207146.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 04:01.45 | *** join/#debian jkdsoft (~JKD@27.85-87-85.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) |
| 04:02.06 | *** join/#debian blouf (~hiya@213.154.92.14) |
| 04:02.41 | jhutchins_lt | dark: No reply at all on #samba. |
| 04:02.42 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@20158134191.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 04:02.57 | jhutchins_lt | terstparms doesn't complain |
| 04:02.58 | dark | lol |
| 04:02.58 | abrotman | jhutchins_lt: it's pretty slow in there .. you may have to wait quite some time |
| 04:03.12 | Devastator | I've installed debian without a mouse plugged in, is there a keyboard shortcut to use gnome's menus and stuff? |
| 04:03.37 | abrotman | Devastator: you can use alt-f2 to launch a launcher |
| 04:03.45 | nevyn | there used to be a soft mouse in X but i think they took it out. |
| 04:03.55 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: hmm, i'm not sure |
| 04:03.55 | nevyn | Devastator: just plug in a usb mouse |
| 04:04.00 | dark | jhutchins_lt, some channels are ghost channels. small channels are active only in a timezone, i.e. people might be sleeping now, try in another time [maybe when you should be sleeping], or, try an asynchronous channel, like forums or e-mail |
| 04:04.11 | kj4 | if i were to master usage of dpkg and apt-*, is there anything i'd be missing by not also using aptitude? |
| 04:04.15 | Devastator | nevyn I wish I had.. also space :D |
| 04:04.18 | jhutchins_lt | dark: 10 hours, no reply. |
| 04:04.24 | guyhoozdis | full-upgrade has run again. Through all your help, this is the 3rd time I have run it. After the 1st time we ran dpkg --configure -a because it failed. After that full-upgrade succeeded. Now it is failing again. Not quite the same error as last time. |
| 04:04.24 | SerajewelKS | oh and does anyone know how to make vino listen to ipv4 interfaces instead of ipv6? |
| 04:04.24 | dark | jhutchins_lt, may i suggest google? (I know you tried, but, did you tried hard?) |
| 04:04.29 | Devastator | abrotman ok, how to turn off? :D |
| 04:04.35 | dark | jhutchins_lt, ask again. |
| 04:04.37 | guyhoozdis | cpio: write error: Broken pipe |
| 04:04.46 | abrotman | Devastator: hit esc ? |
| 04:04.49 | nevyn | Devastator: ctrl-alt-F1 then ctrl-alt-del |
| 04:05.01 | jhutchins_lt | dark: ~15 years. |
| 04:05.03 | nevyn | Devastator: you can hotplug USB |
| 04:05.08 | nevyn | Devastator: not ps/2 tho |
| 04:05.09 | Devastator | abrotman alt+f1 goes to menu |
| 04:05.12 | adb | Devastator, alt-f1 > menu + arrows |
| 04:05.13 | dark | have a timer for asking in exponentially decreasing time, I think this wouldn't considered impolite |
| 04:05.16 | dark | [lol] |
| 04:05.22 | dark | jhutchins_lt, 15 years? what? |
| 04:05.26 | Devastator | nevyn I don't have a usb mouse, and space on this desk.. |
| 04:05.35 | nevyn | ok |
| 04:05.37 | jhutchins_lt | Linux/samba |
| 04:05.47 | dark | jhutchins_lt, 15..? years..? |
| 04:05.47 | jhutchins_lt | RH2.1 |
| 04:05.49 | Devastator | adb thanks :) |
| 04:05.56 | adb | yw |
| 04:06.11 | dark | in fact, what was your original question anyway? |
| 04:06.18 | dark | it is now hidden in my short scroll |
| 04:06.40 | kj4 | jhutchins_lt: if i were to master usage of dpkg and apt-*, is there anything i'd be missing by not also using aptitude? |
| 04:06.41 | jhutchins_lt | Does the order of directives in a smb.conf matter. |
| 04:06.51 | *** join/#debian dinya (Denis@92.255.146.25) |
| 04:07.16 | abrotman | jhutchins_lt: this seems like an easy thing to test ... |
| 04:07.29 | jhutchins_lt | kj4: Aptitude does a better job of tracking rleationships beteween packages. |
| 04:07.38 | dark | jhutchins_lt, why don't you just test? |
| 04:07.43 | *** join/#debian AJollyLife (~Jolly@unaffiliated/ajollylife) |
| 04:07.45 | dark | o.O |
| 04:08.02 | dark | kj4, maybe you would master quickly by creating some packages yourself |
| 04:08.05 | jhutchins_lt | abrotman: testparms does not object. Operational testing tomorrow ~ 18:00 GMT. |
| 04:08.06 | *** join/#debian azeem_ (~mbanck@pD9E1C59B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 04:08.25 | abrotman | boo! |
| 04:08.33 | *** join/#debian bhagat (~bhagat@203.129.255.188) |
| 04:08.50 | jhutchins_lt | Hey, it's late and drunk out here. |
| 04:08.56 | kj4 | jhutchins_lt: ok, so aptitude sounds preferred over apt-get |
| 04:09.02 | abrotman | kj4: indeed |
| 04:09.12 | kj4 | abrotman: thanks |
| 04:09.17 | jhutchins_lt | kj4: Yeah, next step forward, doesn't seem to break much. |
| 04:09.56 | kj4 | dark: i'll take that into consideration- thanks. hadn't considered that, i've only made pkgs for *ahem* Arch |
| 04:11.05 | *** join/#debian musolinoa (~alex@fedora/musolinoa) |
| 04:11.16 | debtime | Hello! I am a new convert. Is there a Debian equivalent to launchpad where we can get entries to put into our /etc/apt/sources.list file to get updated versions of packages (openoffice for example)? |
| 04:11.27 | abrotman | !bpo |
| 04:11.27 | dpkg | backports.org is a semi-official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions . A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update. <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents> <bpo list> |
| 04:11.38 | abrotman | debtime: and it's not really the same |
| 04:11.41 | *** join/#debian debiansid (~siddhesh@triband-mum-120.61.12.40.mtnl.net.in) |
| 04:12.05 | debtime | Thank you dpkg! |
| 04:12.43 | *** join/#debian eledesmar (~eledesmar@190.166.102.40) |
| 04:12.50 | debtime | abrotman: how so? |
| 04:12.52 | dark | kj4, it looks like in debian, when you do something in the system outside the package system, it's "ugly" |
| 04:13.31 | kj4 | dark: thats fine- to know that is very good |
| 04:13.35 | dark | kj4, the proper way of creating a new link in /usr/bin is with a package, the proper way of managing those links is with "alternatives", and such |
| 04:13.43 | dark | well, that's really fine.. when it works |
| 04:13.45 | dark | ^_^' |
| 04:13.50 | dark | i am enjoying it right now |
| 04:13.55 | dark | it's working |
| 04:14.09 | kj4 | dark: are you coming from another distro, or a long time debian user? |
| 04:15.01 | *** join/#debian no_Dat (~dercovice@direct-soho-210-158-14.cbn.net.id) |
| 04:16.20 | jhutchins_lt | dark: Debian is pretty much the most accomodating stem. What are you coming from? |
| 04:17.06 | *** join/#debian sparr (~kvirc@c-24-98-228-62.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 04:17.37 | sparr | ^nHiMoEtZ^_9IRL is spamming onjoin |
| 04:17.50 | jhutchins_lt | Tick, tick, tick, tick, dead, tick. silence, tick, no, tick, response... |
| 04:18.14 | jhutchins_lt | done. |
| 04:18.31 | *** join/#debian Internat (~nf@123-243-184-161.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 04:18.37 | jhutchins_lt | sparr: Perpetual lurk, NP |
| 04:18.57 | dark | i'm coming from debian derivatives, mostly ubuntu and a brazillian knoppix derivative that died some years ago |
| 04:19.10 | dark | i am used to debian packaging system |
| 04:19.11 | *** join/#debian LinuXY (~ian@74-131-159-137.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 04:19.33 | kj4 | dark: ok, i'm coiming from ubuntu/derivatives and arch. debian seems the best of both of those 'extremes' |
| 04:19.48 | jhutchins_lt | [away] sifts the compost for bones. |
| 04:19.52 | dark | i administered fedora in a server and didn't liked it.. but it was fedora 3, not supported, not even found in the official repositories nowadays :P |
| 04:20.00 | dark | hmm |
| 04:20.03 | *** join/#debian noobfarm (noobfarm@unaffiliated/noobfarm) |
| 04:20.11 | kj4 | kj4: the 'buntu's aren't good for people who have started to mess around under the hood... |
| 04:20.26 | dark | yes.. @.@ |
| 04:20.28 | *** join/#debian pickcoder (~madmax@unaffiliated/pickcoder) |
| 04:20.50 | *** join/#debian Arafangion (~arafangio@60-241-250-19.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 04:22.04 | *** join/#debian Judas_PhD (~kvirc@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 04:22.42 | kj4 | dark: good my my grandmother though- : ) |
| 04:22.53 | kj4 | she's near 90 and doing fine with it. |
| 04:23.10 | dark | with ubuntu? |
| 04:23.14 | kj4 | yep |
| 04:23.25 | dark | i think it's the same thing, if you have someone to administer the computer |
| 04:23.34 | *** join/#debian Rusty1 (~Rusty1@cpe-72-226-104-57.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 04:23.38 | dark | you are using gnome, firefox, etc after all |
| 04:23.41 | dark | not the distro |
| 04:23.43 | dark | o.o |
| 04:23.56 | dark | or does she install her own packages? |
| 04:24.01 | kj4 | dark: yeah, now that I think about it, i'm sure debian would be just as good, but shes 900 miles away |
| 04:24.06 | dark | if something breaks, she will call you |
| 04:24.11 | dark | ah |
| 04:24.15 | *** join/#debian gray_ (~Reef@206.248.190.90) |
| 04:24.18 | dark | lol, you installed ubuntu in her computer? |
| 04:24.19 | kj4 | no, she striclty does email/web and a couple of games |
| 04:24.27 | dark | games ^^ nice |
| 04:24.39 | kj4 | yeah, she likes Quake III |
| 04:24.41 | kj4 | j/k |
| 04:24.44 | dark | now you have to pray ubuntu will be stable enough, that's everything she need |
| 04:24.51 | dark | kj4, lol, i would believe |
| 04:24.57 | dark | oh |
| 04:25.01 | dark | isn't j/k joking? |
| 04:25.08 | kj4 | yeah, i installed it 2 years ago, it hasn't broken yet. i ssh into it to check it out |
| 04:25.42 | kj4 | yeah, i was joking about QIII. she likes minesweeper and mahjohng i think |
| 04:26.18 | kj4 | but anyway, i'll debianize her next time |
| 04:26.25 | gray_ | anyone here tried any 3ware raid cards? |
| 04:26.31 | SerajewelKS | ok so saturday we will see how my grandpa-in-law likes debian instead of windows |
| 04:27.09 | kj4 | SerajewelKS: tweak his desktop to make it verrry simple. that worked for me |
| 04:27.31 | SerajewelKS | kj4: ya, i did. i also enabled ssh only for me and vino (requires confirmation). |
| 04:27.53 | SerajewelKS | kj4: plus created him an xmpp accound and had pidgin auto-start so he can talk to me if he can't figure out something. then i can ssh+tunnel in and help him out. |
| 04:28.22 | SerajewelKS | kj4: problem is that he's kind of a do-it-yourself kind of guy. not sure how he'll feel about not having the root password. :) |
| 04:28.36 | *** join/#debian hyde_ (~hyde@c-98-193-39-123.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 04:28.58 | kj4 | SerajewelKS: super plan. you'll resuce another windows victim. yaay |
| 04:29.06 | SerajewelKS | but i've cleaned spyware and viruses enough. xp took about 8 minutes from boot to usable. debian is about 2-3, and it's going to fucking stay that way if i have anything to say about it. |
| 04:29.40 | kj4 | SerajewelKS: right, that's why I bit the bullet and took here off XP, i was getting calls every week |
| 04:29.42 | SerajewelKS | i just hope gramps is as usable as whatever genealogy program he was using |
| 04:30.09 | *** join/#debian myu2 (~myu2@161.90.128.210.bf.2iij.net) |
| 04:30.29 | SerajewelKS | apparently the last guys he took his laptop to (some years ago) formatted his hard drive w/o taking a backup after he told him he had years of genealogy work on it. yeah, and no, he didn't take his own backup first. |
| 04:30.54 | *** join/#debian redux (~poo@124-171-132-194.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 04:30.57 | SerajewelKS | so guess who gets the calls now. yup, the newest family member, me, the computer guy. :) |
| 04:31.24 | SerajewelKS | hopefully vino will save me 1.5 hrs of driving... |
| 04:31.32 | kj4 | SerajewelKS: hehe. your spouse will appreciate it, i'm sure |
| 04:31.36 | *** join/#debian hid3 (~tst@lan-78-157-71-116.vln.skynet.lt) |
| 04:32.02 | SerajewelKS | kj4: i'm hoping this will score big points with her whole family. they're always talking about what trouble he's got himself into on his computer this week. |
| 04:32.44 | SerajewelKS | he's been back-and-forth with those nice people from nigeria several times. he's not dumb enough to give them any useful info beyond his street address (which you can find on google) but not smart enough to realize that they don't actually want to give him money. |
| 04:32.51 | kj4 | i'll bet my stepdad got himself into worse troubel than your gfinlaw |
| 04:33.41 | guyhoozdis | I'm still trying to upgrade my kernel from etch to lenny. I'm running out of space in /boot again, just like when abrotman was helping me earlier. I have used dpkg to remove all kernel-image* packages. |
| 04:34.00 | SerajewelKS | kj4: heh well this guy once opened a hole in the bathroom wall and tied the bathtub to his car to get it out of the house in preparation for the new tub |
| 04:34.10 | SerajewelKS | kj4: so i'm not really discounting anything just yet |
| 04:34.22 | liable | wtf |
| 04:34.27 | kj4 | SerajewelKS: excellent |
| 04:34.36 | *** join/#debian TDJACR (~TDJACR@unaffiliated/tdjacr) |
| 04:34.59 | SerajewelKS | kj4: before i could even put debian on i had to clean off all the crumbs on the computer. i almost had a whole muffin when i was done. |
| 04:35.11 | *** part/#debian redux (~poo@124-171-132-194.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 04:35.16 | SerajewelKS | crosses fingers |
| 04:35.39 | kj4 | SerajewelKS: yeah, don't give him the root pw |
| 04:35.42 | SerajewelKS | at least i took a hard drive image first and copied it so it's on two different disks... |
| 04:35.59 | guyhoozdis | The /boot partition is 90% usage again. I have a few linux-image* listed by dpkg -l linux-image* I see version: 2.6.26+17+lenny1, 2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2, and 2.6.26+17+lenny1 |
| 04:36.05 | SerajewelKS | if he gets pissed i can re-image it and let him use his craptastic, virus-ridden xp again |
| 04:36.35 | SerajewelKS | dd is my friend. i have a friend in dd. |
| 04:36.49 | kj4 | must go, have a good one SerajewelKS, thanks all for advice with apt vs aptitude |
| 04:36.54 | guyhoozdis | Can I delete 2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2 with "dpkg --purge 2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2"? I still have uname -r ==> 2.6.18-6-686 |
| 04:36.57 | *** join/#debian luke3321 (~luke@66-215-22-254.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com) |
| 04:36.59 | SerajewelKS | kj4: later, but what advice? |
| 04:37.14 | SerajewelKS | oh, i missed the "all" |
| 04:38.10 | *** join/#debian Arafangion (~arafangio@60-241-250-19.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 04:39.07 | *** join/#debian kyzz (~kyzz@c-71-63-176-121.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 04:39.09 | *** join/#debian sammy2_ (~5ce18a69@gateway/web/freenode/x-ovmetynrdfguocsf) |
| 04:39.48 | guyhoozdis | Also, what are the "un", "iU", "in", and "ii" in front of the dpkg response? "un" => "uninstalled", I'm guessing. How about the others? |
| 04:40.00 | SerajewelKS | guyhoozdis: see the crap at the top |
| 04:40.20 | SerajewelKS | guyhoozdis: the first column is the actual state, and the second column is the requested state, i think |
| 04:40.28 | SerajewelKS | goraxe: or the other way around |
| 04:40.35 | SerajewelKS | goraxe: sorry |
| 04:40.37 | sammy2_ | hi. i'm trying to make a /var/www/subdirectory owned by a group 'webworker' and to chmod this directory so that directories and files below it will automatically be group writable. how can i achieve this? |
| 04:40.54 | SerajewelKS | guyhoozdis: Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold |
| 04:40.56 | *** join/#debian r0ny (~soul@netkut.com) |
| 04:40.59 | SerajewelKS | guyhoozdis: Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |
| 04:41.04 | SerajewelKS | guyhoozdis: so first is desired, second is actual |
| 04:41.21 | r0ny | hey how can i make sure that all locales are installed in my system,i am not getting french to properly dispayed |
| 04:41.43 | SerajewelKS | r0ny: try 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' as root |
| 04:42.09 | r0ny | doing it as we speak,and after that do i need to restart apache? |
| 04:42.33 | SerajewelKS | r0ny: i don't know, to be honest, it depends what you are trying to do |
| 04:42.59 | r0ny | well i am trying to display a simple french text in my browser |
| 04:43.06 | r0ny | webserver in debain is apache |
| 04:43.21 | r0ny | but its not displaying the fonts coreectly |
| 04:43.24 | jpinx-eeepc | r0ny: restarting apache is trivial - so try it |
| 04:43.32 | r0ny | sure |
| 04:44.16 | guyhoozdis | ok. I see. I seem to be stuck with etch. I followed the steps from "dpkg etch->lenny". At this point I have "ii" for "linux-image-2.6.18-6-686", an etch kernel I think, and two "iU". I think one is just a pointer to the second though. linux-image-686 and linux-image-2.6-686. |
| 04:45.38 | guyhoozdis | My last command was "aptitude full-upgrade", the last step described by "/msg dpkg etch->lenny". It fails and tells me to "dpkg --configure -a" |
| 04:46.25 | *** join/#debian FliesLikeABrick_ (~Ryan@2001:470:c008:11:201:80ff:fe64:10e8) |
| 04:46.28 | jpinx-eeepc | guyhoozdis: coming in here without reading the scrollback - but are you space restricted? |
| 04:46.54 | guyhoozdis | I already went through this error once tonight. I removed "kernel-image*" to make room in /boot. I think full-upgrade is failing... yeah, space. |
| 04:47.45 | guyhoozdis | What can I do to get around this. Earlier tonight I removed old kernels "kernel-image*". Now I only have "linux-image*" installed. |
| 04:48.04 | jpinx-eeepc | guyhoozdis: will you have room for lenny after the upgrade? |
| 04:48.15 | guyhoozdis | does it have to be in /boot? |
| 04:48.40 | jpinx-eeepc | guyhoozdis: my whole OS is in one partition |
| 04:48.56 | guyhoozdis | ... how do I know what I can delete from /boot? |
| 04:49.25 | guyhoozdis | ... or how do I find stuff I can delete from /boot? |
| 04:49.28 | jpinx-eeepc | depends on what is in there. Was it a standard install of etch? |
| 04:49.50 | guyhoozdis | Yeah, I think so. Install from CD years ago. |
| 04:50.01 | jpinx-eeepc | there might be a heap of crap from previous incarnations of sarge if it's really old |
| 04:50.08 | guyhoozdis | Could have been older than etch. |
| 04:50.10 | *** part/#debian Raydiation (~bernhard@85-126-206-52.teleworker.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 04:50.41 | guyhoozdis | how do I determine? I don't think I can just ls /boot and start deleting stuff. |
| 04:50.58 | guyhoozdis | not really sure what to look for with dpkg --list |
| 04:51.03 | jpinx-eeepc | guyhoozdis: not quite sure how - but sounds like your /boot is too small - find a way to enlarge it without losing data |
| 04:51.34 | jpinx-eeepc | are you limited for physical space or is it just that /boot is too small? |
| 04:52.13 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@20158134191.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 04:52.15 | jpinx-eeepc | guyhoozdis: where is the rest of the OS and /home ? |
| 04:52.45 | guyhoozdis | I have a few GB on another partition. The install from CD choose the 15M /boot partition. |
| 04:52.57 | guyhoozdis | The rest of the OS is on / |
| 04:54.03 | jpinx-eeepc | guyhoozdis: I have standard lenny and /boot only has 6 items |
| 04:54.07 | guyhoozdis | what kind of usage, in MB, are you guys seeing in your /boot with lenny? |
| 04:54.19 | jpinx-eeepc | occupying 15MBs |
| 04:54.22 | Joint | hey guys i have a question is this a bug on firefox firefox-bin:8475 Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead |
| 04:55.10 | jpinx-eeepc | guyhoozdis: of which /boot/grub takes 228K |
| 04:55.59 | jpinx-eeepc | guyhoozdis: I have a config, an initrd.img a vmlinuz and a system map |
| 04:56.04 | guyhoozdis | I suspect my space issue is due to needing enough space for the running kernel and the one I'm trying to upgrade to. My /boot partition is also using 15M currently. |
| 04:56.39 | jpinx-eeepc | guyhoozdis: you can aptitude install a new kernel |
| 04:57.00 | *** join/#debian oinc (~oinc@pdpc/supporter/student/blueshoes) |
| 04:57.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 798] by debhelper |
| 04:57.08 | jpinx-eeepc | guyhoozdis: I'm not sure why the usual etch->lenny didn't work for you |
| 04:57.24 | jpinx-eeepc | !etch->lenny |
| 04:57.44 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell guyhoozdis about etch->lenny |
| 04:58.05 | guyhoozdis | so, I'm working on the last step that "etch->lenny" describes. The full-upgrade step fails running out of space. |
| 04:58.46 | guyhoozdis | Yeah, those are the steps I did. Rigth before them I did, as you suggested, aptitude install linux-image-686 |
| 04:59.00 | jpinx-eeepc | guyhoozdis: you must have more crap in there than I just described - I did etch lenny in a restricted laptop without trounble |
| 04:59.12 | jpinx-eeepc | but I did delete all the .bak files |
| 04:59.33 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) |
| 04:59.36 | guyhoozdis | I see a *.bak file. Is it safe to delete? |
| 04:59.42 | jpinx-eeepc | guyhoozdis: why did you do the kernal *before* the uppgrade? |
| 05:00.21 | guyhoozdis | hmmm... actually. I think I misspoke. That step was failling which led to etch->lenny. |
| 05:00.40 | jpinx-eeepc | guyhoozdis: make a copy of stuff you delete incase you need it again - something in / called /boot-backup might work for you |
| 05:01.27 | jpinx-eeepc | if you were getting failures *before* you started to9 do the etch->lenny you have no chance |
| 05:01.44 | jpinx-eeepc | you may backup and do a new netinstall |
| 05:01.59 | *** join/#debian omid8bimo (~omid8bimo@unaffiliated/omid8bimo) |
| 05:02.46 | guyhoozdis | ok. Thanks for you help. Yeah, a re-install may be easier at this point. |
| 05:03.15 | jpinx-eeepc | guyhoozdis: I think you will end up with a cleaner system with a fresh install |
| 05:04.14 | *** join/#debian lnostdal (~lnostdal@90.149.113.175) |
| 05:04.25 | jpinx-eeepc | guyhoozdis: backup all your data, download the netinstall image and go for it! ;) Good luck :) |
| 05:04.42 | Amarande | does *every* user coming to #debian for help have an excessively small hard disk? :S |
| 05:05.05 | *** join/#debian Rusty1 (~Rusty1@cpe-72-226-104-57.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 05:05.32 | jpinx-eeepc | Amarande: seems a common problem - I had a 701 with only 4 Gbs - but it ran lenny ok |
| 05:05.44 | guyhoozdis | Yeah. I'm just pulling this system out of the corner and blowing the dust off. A verification that the backups are good is in order. |
| 05:05.45 | nevyn | Amarande: lvm with tiny tiny lv's |
| 05:06.16 | *** join/#debian sauvin (~sauvin@unaffiliated/sauvin) |
| 05:06.27 | Amarande | ahh, I still do the fixed size partition thing heh |
| 05:06.41 | guyhoozdis | I think the partition sizes were the defaults from the CD install I did years ago. |
| 05:07.01 | nevyn | Amarande: fixed partitions is ok if you have 2 3 max |
| 05:07.02 | jpinx-eeepc | guyhoozdis: fwiw - I have no partitions |
| 05:07.07 | nevyn | for general purpose machines |
| 05:07.24 | nevyn | home root and maybe boot |
| 05:07.32 | jpinx-eeepc | I found it always caused trouble in the end |
| 05:07.44 | Amarande | heh, I have ... 7 partitions on this drive? |
| 05:07.54 | jpinx-eeepc | I use symlinks from home dirs to external hdds |
| 05:07.57 | nevyn | doing it wrong |
| 05:08.03 | Amarande | root, /home, /boot, /tmp, /usr/local, /var, and swap |
| 05:08.13 | jpinx-eeepc | has no swap either |
| 05:08.15 | nevyn | no swap SSD |
| 05:08.39 | Amarande | I thought not having swap tended to reduce the OS's efficiency |
| 05:08.55 | nevyn | swap is bad when your disk is a SSD |
| 05:08.58 | jpinx-eeepc | Amarande: not if you have 2Gbs + RAM |
| 05:09.12 | nevyn | and you've got 2gig of ram anyway |
| 05:09.29 | nevyn | I've got a 4gig disk and 2gig of ram it always struck me as kinda strange that. |
| 05:09.42 | *** join/#debian EagleWatch (~eaglewatc@Marasti-IIB2.east.utcluj.ro) |
| 05:09.57 | jpinx-eeepc | my 701 had that - 4GB SDD and 2Gb RAM |
| 05:10.06 | jpinx-eeepc | and no swap |
| 05:10.39 | jpinx-eeepc | this 901 has 16Gbs SDD and 2 Gbs Ram and no swap |
| 05:10.47 | nevyn | the 16gig drive in my 900 died |
| 05:10.54 | nevyn | so I've only got the 4gig left |
| 05:10.59 | jpinx-eeepc | after how long? |
| 05:11.08 | nevyn | a year or so. |
| 05:11.12 | guyhoozdis | thanks again for the help. |
| 05:11.15 | nevyn | I was reasonably brutal on it. |
| 05:11.19 | jpinx-eeepc | you can replace the 16GB SDD I believe |
| 05:11.30 | jpinx-eeepc | guyhoozdis: you're more than welcome |
| 05:11.30 | Amarande | ahh, I have 2GB RAM, but the drive is a 500GB SATA |
| 05:11.37 | nevyn | jpinx-eeepc: not worth it. |
| 05:11.46 | jpinx-eeepc | nevyn: ;) |
| 05:12.06 | *** join/#debian ChildOfGod (~debayan@122.167.239.21) |
| 05:12.10 | jpinx-eeepc | it's the slower SDD anyway - the 4Gb is fast |
| 05:13.31 | *** join/#debian FliesLikeABrick (~Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor) |
| 05:14.18 | *** join/#debian spn (~spn@adsl-68-122-155-53.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 05:14.21 | debtime | I added backports to my sources.list and I think I just made a big mistake http://debian.pastebin.com/m34578f3d Is there any way to fix this? |
| 05:15.01 | nevyn | jpinx-eeepc: I can buy a replacement for the cost of the ssd part. |
| 05:15.59 | jpinx-eeepc | debtime: that looks a bit sad |
| 05:16.14 | *** join/#debian albondi (~albondee@99.144.131.76) |
| 05:16.24 | nevyn | http://www.kogan.com.au/shop/kogan-agora-netbook-pro/ |
| 05:16.28 | jpinx-eeepc | nevyn: shop around - I believe you can pop in a new sdd without a soldering iron |
| 05:16.39 | nevyn | oh I know it's a pop in part |
| 05:16.50 | debtime | jpinx-eeepc: I am new and didn't know that autoremove was going to remove things that I didn't want removed |
| 05:17.03 | debtime | oops |
| 05:17.08 | jpinx-eeepc | debtime: rtfm then before you do stuff |
| 05:17.25 | debtime | rtfm? |
| 05:17.27 | *** part/#debian guyhoozdis (~chatzilla@cpe-72-177-48-254.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 05:17.34 | jpinx-eeepc | !rtfm |
| 05:17.35 | dpkg | from memory, rtfm is Read The Fucking Manual. If you want to ask a question about foo, please read man foo; before asking. If there isn't a manpage about foo, use apropos to find one. Reading manuals helps us help you. [You might try info foo as well.] |
| 05:18.00 | debtime | I did read it and followed the instructions |
| 05:18.32 | jpinx-eeepc | debtime: did you read man pages for the commands you used? |
| 05:20.29 | debtime | Not this time. I thought I knew what it did. In the past this worked, Plus the Terminal prompted me to do this. |
| 05:21.05 | debtime | Anyway, I was just hoping to get an updated openoffice |
| 05:21.18 | jpinx-eeepc | debtime: paste your sources.list |
| 05:21.43 | jpinx-eeepc | judd: versions openoffice.org |
| 05:21.44 | judd | openoffice.org -- etch: 2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch6; etch-security: 2.0.4.dfsg.2-7etch9; etch-backports: 1:2.4.1-12~bpo40+1; lenny: 1:2.4.1+dfsg-1+lenny3; lenny-security: 1:2.4.1+dfsg-1+lenny6; squeeze: 1:3.1.1-14; lenny-backports: 1:3.1.1-15+squeeze1~bpo50+1; squeeze-security: 1:3.1.1-15+squeeze1; sid: 1:3.1.1-16; experimental: 1:3.2.0-1 |
| 05:22.42 | debtime | jpinx-eeepc: http://debian.pastebin.com/m18b1a809 |
| 05:23.24 | *** join/#debian Cain (~Geek@41.141.252.98) |
| 05:23.24 | *** join/#debian Cain (~Geek@unaffiliated/cain) |
| 05:23.59 | jpinx-eeepc | debtime: seems ok - and did you read the isntructions on how to use aptitude install with backports? |
| 05:24.06 | debtime | Yes |
| 05:24.21 | debtime | Then added the backports key |
| 05:24.32 | debtime | and viola |
| 05:26.30 | jpinx-eeepc | debtime: I don't see where you used backports |
| 05:27.12 | jpinx-eeepc | debtime: as per "aptitude -t lenny-backports install Ć¢ĀĀpackageĆ¢ĀĀ |
| 05:27.25 | debtime | Isn't that the last entry in the sources list? |
| 05:27.38 | debtime | oh |
| 05:27.43 | debtime | I will find it |
| 05:28.09 | jpinx-eeepc | debtime: like I said - rtfm! http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions |
| 05:28.55 | debtime | that is the page were i got this idea from. rtfm |
| 05:29.43 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~project25@86.51.114.108) |
| 05:32.51 | debtime | jpinx-eeepc: This is as far up as the terminal printout is available http://debian.pastebin.com/m4f32e49b |
| 05:35.25 | *** join/#debian nhandler_ (~nhandler@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nhandler) |
| 05:36.24 | jpinx-eeepc | debtime: Not quite sure why you did one install from Bports and a subsequent one normally |
| 05:36.40 | jpinx-eeepc | needs to sleep now... |
| 05:39.01 | *** join/#debian jelly-hme (me@islands.iskon.hr) |
| 05:41.50 | debtime | Was I supposed to remove something from that list so as not to draw from both sources? |
| 05:42.25 | *** join/#debian harpal (~Harpal@121.246.75.165) |
| 05:44.01 | *** join/#debian ishady (~ninja@59.95.68.38) |
| 05:45.50 | *** join/#debian brbrbr (~Basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) |
| 05:45.59 | *** join/#debian no_Dat (~dercovice@direct-soho-210-158-14.cbn.net.id) |
| 05:46.56 | *** join/#debian Guerin (~lewis@121-73-1-241.cable.telstraclear.net) |
| 05:48.34 | *** join/#debian Holborn (~holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 05:49.01 | *** join/#debian hid3 (~tst@lan-78-157-71-116.vln.skynet.lt) |
| 05:53.30 | *** join/#debian peterrooney (~peter@96.54.162.41) |
| 05:54.14 | *** join/#debian nhandler (~nhandler@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nhandler) |
| 05:57.25 | *** join/#debian dimhee (~dimhee@79.172.81.94.dyn.broadband.iskratelecom.ru) |
| 05:59.19 | *** join/#debian sparr (~kvirc@pdpc/supporter/active/sparr) |
| 05:59.49 | *** join/#debian SQlvpapir (~teis@188.177.95.62) |
| 06:02.09 | *** join/#debian HarryS (H@ipv6.harryy.us) |
| 06:02.38 | *** join/#debian dgeary2 (~david@2001:388:10:1606:216:3eff:fe7d:d091) |
| 06:07.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 791] by debhelper |
| 06:07.04 | mischief | with LVM i can resize any volume at any time right? |
| 06:09.06 | *** join/#debian wthtt (~wthtt@dyn-52-203.e-sky.ru) |
| 06:15.24 | *** join/#debian Gilde (~Gilde@dslb-092-076-138-178.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 06:15.35 | *** join/#debian ia (~ia@89.169.161.244) |
| 06:20.34 | *** join/#debian redux (~poo@124-171-132-194.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 06:20.58 | *** join/#debian lipsin (~lipsin@unaffiliated/lipsin) |
| 06:22.34 | *** join/#debian lhx (~lhx@72.14.189.76) |
| 06:22.38 | Tramp | mischief: provided you have space left in the VG, you can resize an LV |
| 06:22.43 | lhx | hugs everyone |
| 06:22.56 | *** join/#debian jidm (~jidm@190.3.75.30) |
| 06:23.13 | mischief | Tramp, i meant shrink |
| 06:23.27 | mischief | the debian installer is putting about 98% of my disk space in /home |
| 06:23.35 | mischief | which is about 495GB. |
| 06:23.50 | mischief | as this is a server i will not be wanting all data in /home |
| 06:24.02 | Tramp | you can shrink the LV. But it will hurt the filesystem in it |
| 06:24.09 | mischief | oh? |
| 06:24.18 | jidm | hi. i'm suffering some weird bug. Using debian testing and gnome. There is a nautilus window open, and every time i close it, it inmediately reopens. |
| 06:25.20 | jidm | it happens with one window in particular, always starts displayng the same directory |
| 06:25.58 | Tramp | mischief: last time I installed Debian (which is about 2 years ago) I could set up my partitioning/LVM/encryption manually the way I liked it |
| 06:26.03 | *** join/#debian benf (benf2004@unaffiliated/benf2004) |
| 06:26.03 | jidm | it's freaking me out. No matter if i restart the system, with or without saving open windows |
| 06:26.18 | mischief | Tramp, well, i dont really know where ill be putting things to be honest. haha |
| 06:26.34 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 06:27.12 | Tramp | mischief: then create one or more VGs keep the LVs "small". Then you can grow them later. Growing is painless |
| 06:28.58 | *** join/#debian shogunx (~shogunx@2001:4978:106:1:211:d8ff:fe4e:bacc) |
| 06:30.06 | *** join/#debian cahoot (~radix@pdpc/supporter/active/cahoot) |
| 06:31.10 | *** join/#debian Rockj (rockj@rockj.net) |
| 06:31.15 | *** join/#debian albondi (~albondee@99-144-131-76.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 06:31.43 | Rockj | Is /etc/ssl/* a good place to put our ssl-certificate? Is that the debian way to store it? |
| 06:31.48 | mischief | Tramp, it wouldnt let me resize the LVM. lol |
| 06:32.04 | Rockj | or should I leave /etc/ssl/* alone since it might be tempered from an ssl package in debian? |
| 06:32.05 | mischief | Rockj, man hier seems to tell a lot about where to put stuff |
| 06:32.14 | mischief | first time i read it since using debian for 1.5+ yr |
| 06:32.16 | mischief | lol |
| 06:32.23 | jidm | miracle! it's gone |
| 06:32.26 | *** part/#debian jidm (~jidm@190.3.75.30) |
| 06:33.00 | *** join/#debian lipsin (~lipsin@unaffiliated/lipsin) |
| 06:33.11 | *** join/#debian K0JIbKA (~nikobit@81.91.189.3) |
| 06:34.01 | hile | Rockj: well, SSL key handling is a mess in linux, but yeah /etc/ssl/certs and /etc/ssl/private/ are good places, it just does not help many local programs automatically to accept them |
| 06:34.03 | Rockj | mischief: that was nice, didn't know of "hier". But I do know the general way of where to store stuff in *nix tho. |
| 06:34.50 | Rockj | hile: ok ok, yeah - configuring each service that requires to use it is no problem for me to deal with. Was just wondering if it would be bad to place something there since an package from repo can go enrage in that dir :) |
| 06:35.14 | hile | Rockj: anyway, for example server LDAP certificates must be readable only by LDAP server user, so I usually place them in /etc/ldap/ssl/ |
| 06:35.26 | Rockj | (it's what I've always done, but I felt I had to confirm it for the new system Im setting up) |
| 06:35.47 | squisher | how can I find out what other gtk icon themes are packaged? I'm currently using tango, but I want something which also has small icons |
| 06:35.52 | hile | nothing overwrites your cert files if you name them lake /etc/ssl/certs/mail.foo.com.crt |
| 06:35.56 | *** join/#debian beawesomeinstead (~beawesome@unaffiliated/beawesomeinstead) |
| 06:36.09 | Rockj | hile: isn't it like that all services should only be readable by its service normally? I think I dealt with that with using the ssl-certs group |
| 06:36.44 | mischief | Rockj, i generally dont know where to put things XD |
| 06:37.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 797] by debhelper |
| 06:37.08 | Rockj | mischief: tho, I see that man hier says to deploy stuff in /usr/etc for site-wide configurations, Ive never done that tho. |
| 06:37.22 | Rockj | I dislike to touch /usr, without having it as an .deb package at least. |
| 06:37.27 | hile | Rockj: the slapd has different access requirements than other server processes, most server processes can read certificates before giving up root privileges for example, slapd not |
| 06:37.38 | Rockj | and I wont be making an deb package just for our ssl certificate. |
| 06:38.14 | mischief | why not Rockj? ;) |
| 06:38.26 | hile | putting stuff under /usr/ custom directories is some weirdness from early 90's based BSD distributions, and is certainly against any filesystem standards |
| 06:38.28 | *** join/#debian kiri (~kiri@zambezi.kiri.co.zw) |
| 06:39.06 | Rockj | hile: see man hier , it is mention to be put there. If you see ls -la /etc/ssl/certs , you see it links to there (I think) |
| 06:39.32 | Rockj | mischief: actually, we're using rcs version control and push out our configuration from an config box :) |
| 06:39.59 | mischief | i heard NIS is good for that |
| 06:40.42 | Rockj | hile: btw, an hardlink will do the trick wont it? so an hardlink for slapd and set own permission on that hardlink? *wonder if you can set permission on hardlinks, cant on softlinks* |
| 06:40.44 | benf | anyone have any idea why the wired network connection on a fresh install of lenny wouldn't work? i've verified that the hardware is fine, but i can't ping the gateway and i'm getting a ridiculous number of errors on the interface in ifconfig |
| 06:40.47 | hile | Rockj: yes ca-certificates is broken IMO for local CAs which do not come from a .deb, but /usr/share/ca-certificates/<company>/companycrt.pem is good and right if you want to use ca-certificates.conf |
| 06:41.35 | hile | Rockj: and updates to ca-certificates packages does not touch these either, unless you of course overwrite something existing which you should not do |
| 06:41.57 | Rockj | mischief: may I ask for an URL releated to NIS? :) |
| 06:42.03 | benf | if i boot up a live cd of another distro, the connection works fine, and i know the settings are correct, so i can't figure out what the problem is |
| 06:42.17 | Rockj | mischief: (if you know it by your memory) |
| 06:42.22 | benf | but it only seems to affect debian, and only the installed version (the net install disc worked fine) |
| 06:42.33 | *** join/#debian digitalmortician (~digitalmo@77.245.31.55) |
| 06:43.32 | Rockj | hile: and hardlink wont do it, I guess an duplicate copy is allowed for slapd then ;-) |
| 06:43.44 | *** join/#debian Shaytan (~eric@c-13bfe355.025-19-73746f29.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 06:44.16 | squisher | benf, upgrade / downgrade the kernel? Look at backports if necessary |
| 06:44.17 | hile | Rockj: or add slapd to some 'ssl' group, but that gives more privileges to ldap user than I like :) |
| 06:44.39 | *** join/#debian EagleWatch (~eaglewatc@magellan.utcluj.ro) |
| 06:45.13 | hile | Rockj: anyway, adding local CA like this does not even work for many local server programs, if they are linked with libgnutls, only used by libopenssl programs anyway. Yes, SSL certificates in linux are a big mess |
| 06:46.10 | hile | Rockj: especially any of this does not work where you usually want them, in any mozilla based programs like firefox or thunderbird: these beast require some silly libnss3 certificate bundle file in special place :) |
| 06:46.12 | Rockj | hile: ohh, that's how I solved it. but you have to change the ssl group to have rw. |
| 06:47.07 | hile | Rockj: programs don't need to write certificates usually, I would not allow them servers using them to write anything to normal certificates |
| 06:47.12 | Rockj | but our certificate is signed by an well known CA party tho. Just wanted to place the certificate in an system wide correct place. |
| 06:47.50 | *** join/#debian myu2 (~myu2@161.90.128.210.bf.2iij.net) |
| 06:47.59 | Rockj | oh nvm, I thought you said slapd required rw , my mistake |
| 06:48.02 | hile | Rockj: ok, that's cool then, and yeah it's nice to know where a server's cert files are supposed to be in your organization |
| 06:49.20 | hile | Rockj: I work in places which have maybe 100 local services with internal SSL/TLS services, thus we roll our own internal CA certificate for these things (and public things with purchased ones, of course) |
| 06:50.09 | hile | anyway, back to the above mentioned working -> |
| 06:50.20 | Rockj | and yeah, I'm just an student |
| 06:50.32 | Rockj | I wrote a guide for myself regarding making CA certificate for personal use |
| 06:51.28 | Rockj | and gain some knownledge about it , not sure if it was 100% right tho. I can leave the link to you in PM if you feel to be bored and leave an comment :p |
| 06:51.29 | *** join/#debian GhostInTheShell (~melkor@client-136-96.speedy-net.bg) |
| 06:51.29 | hile | hah |
| 06:52.14 | Rockj | *grin* |
| 06:55.12 | *** join/#debian i_am_ed (~i_am_ed@82-69-5-99.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 06:55.49 | mischief | Rockj, well, it's in OpenBSD |
| 06:55.50 | mischief | lol |
| 06:56.03 | mischief | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Information_Service |
| 06:56.48 | Rockj | ahh, yeah - that's the thing I just digged into. I didn't know about /etc/nsswitch.conf before here the other day :O |
| 06:56.50 | Rockj | haha |
| 06:57.53 | *** join/#debian Eren (~Eren@unaffiliated/eren) |
| 06:57.58 | *** join/#debian bilan (~anakin@212.68.193.202) |
| 06:58.39 | bilan | hi |
| 06:58.43 | Rockj | anyway, I like rcs together with rdist ;] |
| 06:58.46 | i_am_ed | When restarting nfsd dmesg is showing 'svc: failed to register lockdv1 RPC service (errno 97).' and I'm unable to connect to any NFS shares. Portmapper, statd and mountd seem to be running okay otherwise. Any ideas, please? |
| 06:59.35 | *** join/#debian kermit (~zip55413@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) |
| 06:59.38 | i_am_ed | On debian squeeze ARM |
| 06:59.55 | bilan | when i do a apt-get dist-upgrade (i just switched to testing), it wants to install me a lot of new packages xserver-* |
| 07:00.12 | bilan | how can I avoid that ? When i do apt-get upgrade, it does not. |
| 07:00.55 | bilan | i would like to identify which package requires those xserver-* packages |
| 07:01.29 | *** join/#debian fredl (~fredl@e225118.upc-e.chello.nl) |
| 07:01.39 | *** join/#debian Guerin (~lewis@121-73-1-241.cable.telstraclear.net) |
| 07:03.32 | *** join/#debian vkrug (~vkrug@89.244.128.68) |
| 07:03.50 | *** join/#debian oxxo (~alexis@77.193.201.63) |
| 07:05.14 | *** join/#debian nosebinary (~dave@58.147.55.117) |
| 07:05.29 | *** join/#debian nnull (~nnull@unaffiliated/nnull) |
| 07:07.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 803] by debhelper |
| 07:10.41 | *** join/#debian ^shark_ (~Jerry_Jor@41.217.237.179) |
| 07:11.15 | *** join/#debian neoice (~neoice@thule.neoice.net) |
| 07:14.56 | *** join/#debian allisterb (~allisterb@cuscon124899.tstt.net.tt) |
| 07:16.52 | *** join/#debian gurra (~gurra__@unaffiliated/gurra) |
| 07:17.41 | *** join/#debian Alagar (~helpdesk@vsusg1.vernalissystems.com) |
| 07:19.38 | *** join/#debian simonrvn (simon@64.235.208.86) |
| 07:20.34 | *** join/#debian ravenbird (simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn/bot/ravenbird) |
| 07:21.31 | *** join/#debian wonderwal (~orch`0031@dsl-185-165-108.dynamic.wa.co.za) |
| 07:21.44 | wonderwal | hi i have bought a NAS server which runs debian and allows me to ssh in as root, but it seems to be denying me console access. it wont even show init scripts running or a login prompt, how can i change this? |
| 07:24.02 | *** join/#debian j4K0b (~j4k0bk@93.160.119.14) |
| 07:25.32 | *** join/#debian subsume (~subsume@199.125.119.70.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 07:25.50 | subsume | Hello there. How might I delete all mail of a particular user? I had a process mailing nobody@localhost for months and months. |
| 07:26.03 | *** part/#debian redux (~poo@124-171-132-194.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 07:27.28 | fireba11 | subsume: just go to /var/lib/mail and delete it? |
| 07:27.45 | subsume | no such file |
| 07:27.49 | *** join/#debian e-jones (~jkastner@nat/redhat/x-rxpgcgowiwbxeyto) |
| 07:27.59 | *** join/#debian Cybertinus (~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl) |
| 07:28.40 | *** join/#debian vkrug (~vkrug@89.244.128.68) |
| 07:29.25 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@s83-191-241-142.cust.tele2.se) |
| 07:29.56 | *** join/#debian k\t (~]r@cpe-76-90-162-150.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 07:29.57 | peterrooney | subsume: in debian, it's usually /var/mail/<user> |
| 07:30.12 | subsume | nice. thanks. |
| 07:31.08 | maxagaz | can I do something like a traceroute to check if "id foo" uses the ldap informations, cached informations or local ones ? |
| 07:31.21 | *** join/#debian vkrug (~vkrug@89.244.128.68) |
| 07:31.36 | mischief | hm, out. i have a lvm problem |
| 07:31.48 | *** join/#debian soicon (~soicon@58.186.31.150) |
| 07:32.05 | mischief | i tried booting into my new system after installing with LVM and the kernel initrd drops to a shell because the root filesystem LVM volume 'doesnt exist' |
| 07:32.32 | *** part/#debian soicon (~soicon@58.186.31.150) |
| 07:32.45 | *** join/#debian redux (~poo@124-171-132-194.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 07:33.15 | *** join/#debian pipeline (0a1f29ec13@173-165-8-237-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 07:33.25 | *** join/#debian bfremon (~ben@pas38-2-82-67-73-175.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 07:34.11 | *** join/#debian marienjoanny (~marienjoa@39.138.86-79.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 07:34.41 | *** join/#debian ghisen (~ghisen@static-213-115-103-204.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 07:35.04 | *** part/#debian subsume (~subsume@199.125.119.70.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 07:36.11 | *** join/#debian vkrug (~vkrug@89.244.128.68) |
| 07:36.30 | maxagaz | using strace? |
| 07:37.28 | *** join/#debian debiansid (~siddhesh@triband-mum-120.61.12.40.mtnl.net.in) |
| 07:38.20 | *** join/#debian henrysmile (~henrysmil@ppp-249-229.21-151.libero.it) |
| 07:39.14 | *** join/#debian zink (~zink@pc-121-227-100-190.cm.vtr.net) |
| 07:39.26 | pierre_le | q: i have 'mount --bind xxx' commands in /etc/rc.local, but looks like all the volumes|parts in fstab are not mounted when rc.local is invoked. is it normal? |
| 07:40.01 | wols_ | depends when you run your script |
| 07:40.25 | pierre_le | you mean the runlevel? |
| 07:40.31 | wols_ | no I don't |
| 07:40.45 | wols_ | at which point is your rc.local script run? |
| 07:40.55 | pierre_le | the system decide |
| 07:41.03 | pierre_le | can i set up it late? |
| 07:41.04 | wols_ | no it does not. you decide |
| 07:41.22 | wols_ | sure: use a high number. typically for a rc.local it's 99 or si |
| 07:41.25 | wols_ | *so |
| 07:41.36 | wols_ | hence my question: where do you run it? |
| 07:42.21 | wols_ | which file exactly did you use? /etc/rc.local? |
| 07:42.27 | pierre_le | i didnt tweaked it. it runs ok , except the fstab volumes dependent commands |
| 07:42.34 | pierre_le | yes rc.local |
| 07:42.53 | *** join/#debian bbu (~bbu@2001:6f8:1178:2:20e:cff:fe63:adbd) |
| 07:43.05 | *** join/#debian hd409 (~hd409@121.97.98.88) |
| 07:44.51 | *** part/#debian bbu (~bbu@2001:6f8:1178:2:20e:cff:fe63:adbd) |
| 07:45.03 | hd409 | hello good afternoon.i have dual boot debian and xp. my dvdrom wont burn or recognize blankdvd.i want to burn my important file into dvd.but i cannot burn it because it wont recognize.but when i dual boot to xp, it can recognize.so my last resort is to transfer my files in xp.how to locate the xp files inside debian?i tried the wine but i cannot see the folders that i created when i use xp..thanks |
| 07:45.23 | pierre_le | /etc/rc5.d contains S99rc.local |
| 07:45.31 | hd409 | but cd can recognize except dvd |
| 07:45.35 | hile | wols, rc.local is actually very early by default, see ls -l /etc/rc*.d/*rc.local |
| 07:45.39 | hd409 | thanks pierre |
| 07:45.47 | hd409 | thanks pierre_le |
| 07:46.13 | pierre_le | hd409, i was not responding to your question sorry |
| 07:46.20 | hd409 | oh ok |
| 07:46.27 | *** join/#debian greenmang0 (~abhishek@unaffiliated/greenmang0) |
| 07:46.37 | *** join/#debian roll (~roll@pool-146-77-196-89.dbd-ipconnect.net) |
| 07:46.41 | *** join/#debian roamon (~chatzilla@bb220-255-253-63.singnet.com.sg) |
| 07:46.49 | hd409 | i tried also updated my debian lenny to see if dvd will work but nope.it can cd only.but not dvd. |
| 07:46.59 | hd409 | but when i boot in xp it can read dvd |
| 07:47.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 813] by debhelper |
| 07:47.01 | hile | I never used it, so my config should be lenny defaults, and I have for some reason S01rc.local which is VERY early |
| 07:47.02 | *** join/#debian manixor (~manixor@79.114.22.86) |
| 07:47.18 | pierre_le | hile, how to force rc.local to run at the very end? |
| 07:47.57 | pierre_le | S99 should do the trick bu ti beleive it doesnt |
| 07:48.15 | hd409 | it wont detect also my enclosure :( but when i boot in xp, it can detect |
| 07:48.17 | *** join/#debian hid3 (~tst@lan-78-157-71-116.vln.skynet.lt) |
| 07:48.31 | hile | according to postinst files, it should be S99, very strange... |
| 07:48.59 | hile | pierre_le: maybe you also have some old link for it, not just S99? |
| 07:49.47 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-170.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 07:49.57 | pierre_le | i'm investigating /etc/rc* |
| 07:50.13 | *** join/#debian kj4 (~kj4kjl@adsl-235-64-163.clt.bellsouth.net) |
| 07:50.16 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@93.9.34.10) |
| 07:50.19 | roamon | Am using kernel 2.6.18. During upgrade, system msg says udev requires kernel 2.6.26. Is the kernel version not upgraded automatically? |
| 07:50.23 | *** join/#debian Jeffmg1 (~Elive_use@69.49.160.212.swcp.com) |
| 07:50.58 | wols_ | roamon: when is a new kernel actually running so the udev upgrade script can check for it? |
| 07:51.38 | roamon | wols_: sorry, don't get you. |
| 07:52.29 | *** join/#debian pierrep (~ppasteau@ram94-4-82-227-155-25.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 07:52.33 | wols_ | roamon: you do a big apt upgrade. it upgrades your kernel and the udev package. when does the new kernel actually run so udev can check for it and be sure it's new enough to accomodate this new version of udev? |
| 07:52.46 | pierre_le | hile, i have S99rc.local present in rc2 3 4 5.d . looks ok... |
| 07:52.50 | *** join/#debian xlotlu (~john@82.76.172.147) |
| 07:52.50 | wols_ | hd409: plug the external hdd in, check dmesg |
| 07:53.08 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@secure.dreampark.se) |
| 07:53.08 | wols_ | hd409: what is your fstab line for the optical drive? |
| 07:53.56 | wols_ | ah. blank dvds. wodim should give you an error. as for the xp files: you need to mount the xp partition(s) |
| 07:54.12 | hd409 | wols_ thanks for the reply.i will post the dmesg.this is my last resort |
| 07:54.14 | *** join/#debian Jeffmg1 (~Elive_use@69.49.160.212.swcp.com) |
| 07:54.19 | hile | pierre_le: hard to tell... but yes S99 is run last anyway, the numbers always work like that |
| 07:55.08 | hd409 | i cannot burn my files in debian.if there is a way to transfer the files from debian to xp folders i would love to.but ive check all the folders from tmp,var,etc no windows folder there |
| 07:55.54 | wols_ | hd409: you need to mount your windows partitions |
| 07:55.58 | roamon | wols_: "when does.." is a deep question which I dcan't answer. I thought that when I do 'apt-get upgrade', the version compatibility should be taken care of. I am just lost when a udev is newer than the kernel. Should I manually install the required kernel? |
| 07:55.59 | pierre_le | hd409, use mkisofs and cdrecord |
| 07:56.02 | hd409 | wols_ 9.191066] scsi 3:0:0:0: Direct-Access ST350063 0AS K PQ |
| 07:56.26 | wols_ | hd409: and you paste this why? |
| 07:56.40 | *** join/#debian HackeMate (~HackeMate@171.Red-88-19-198.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 07:56.43 | wols_ | !tell roamon about etch->lenny |
| 07:57.08 | *** join/#debian ealdor (~ealdor@83.46.10.166) |
| 07:57.25 | hd409 | wols_ thats the result of the desgm |
| 07:57.31 | roamon | wols_: I am running 'testing'. |
| 07:58.02 | wols_ | roamon: first, testing with a 2.6.18 kernel from etc? 2nd: you run testing, you are expected to know and handle things like that yourself. |
| 07:58.06 | *** join/#debian dgeary2 (~david@2001:388:10:1606:216:3eff:fe7d:d091) |
| 07:58.12 | *** join/#debian scorche (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) |
| 07:58.23 | wols_ | or should at least have so much udnerstanding that my explanation above is clear what is happening |
| 07:58.32 | hd409 | wols_ its 500gb hd. i saw it in the computer icon. but when i double click the 500gb hd enclosure, it says Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'ESPC500' |
| 07:58.43 | wols_ | roamon: heck, you didn't even report the message you get correctly |
| 07:59.01 | wols_ | hd409: what debian version do you run? |
| 07:59.10 | hd409 | debian lenny |
| 07:59.18 | hd409 | wols_ debian lenny |
| 07:59.37 | wols_ | hd409: and when you plug in what does dmesg say? it doesn't say what you wrote. not if it's a usb hdd |
| 08:00.03 | hd409 | wols_ uname -a |
| 08:00.04 | hd409 | Linux 1000 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Feb 10 08:59:21 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 08:00.11 | roamon | wols_: but this thing really beats me. never come across something like this before. |
| 08:00.25 | roamon | You are currently upgrading udev to a version that is not compatible with the currently Ć¢ĀĀ |
| 08:00.26 | roamon | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:00.28 | roamon | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:00.29 | roamon | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:00.31 | roamon | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:00.32 | roamon | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:00.34 | roamon | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:00.35 | roamon | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:00.37 | roamon | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:01.06 | wols_ | thanks for flooding |
| 08:01.12 | roamon | sorry |
| 08:01.22 | wols_ | I stop this now. you are bad for my blood pressure |
| 08:01.40 | roamon | wols_: i am trying to give you the full msg. |
| 08:01.45 | *** join/#debian starenka_ (~starenka@88.103.15.70) |
| 08:01.48 | wols_ | and no, you are not fit for running testing at all. have a nice day |
| 08:01.59 | fireba11 | :-D |
| 08:02.14 | roamon | wols_: but i have run it for almost a decade! |
| 08:02.38 | wols_ | too bad you didn't learn anything in all that time. not even reading a simple message |
| 08:02.44 | hd409 | wols_ this is the desgm result thanks. http://pastebin.ca/1806511 |
| 08:02.54 | hd409 | demsg |
| 08:02.56 | *** join/#debian esteeven (~esteeven@cpc2-hawk2-0-0-cust980.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 08:02.58 | hd409 | dmesg sorry |
| 08:03.03 | roamon | wols_: if you can't, just so say. |
| 08:03.20 | fireba11 | roamon: what's unclear about that message? |
| 08:03.34 | *** join/#debian mischief (~mischief@unaffiliated/mischief) |
| 08:03.58 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@s83-191-241-142.cust.tele2.se) |
| 08:04.15 | roamon | wols_: the msg is clear. question is, how can this be possible? I upgrade regularly. I would expect the kernel and the udev to be in sync. |
| 08:04.24 | wols_ | hd409: from the last line it looks like the disk is already mounted. you can run "mount" to check. it should have mounted sdd1 (which you can see from the dmesg too) somewhere |
| 08:04.34 | *** join/#debian Roma_39m (~mirc@93-40-101-67.ip38.fastwebnet.it) |
| 08:04.58 | fireba11 | roamon: no, kernel does not upgrade automatically to never versions |
| 08:05.08 | ethanol | mornin' all |
| 08:05.09 | *** join/#debian cornair2 (~Christian@pD9533EB9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 08:05.18 | wols_ | fireba11: depends which (virtual) kernel package is installed |
| 08:05.25 | fireba11 | wols_: true |
| 08:05.38 | *** join/#debian dacs_ (~chatzilla@168.107-30-64.ftth.swbr.surewest.net) |
| 08:05.45 | fireba11 | wols_: but at least you can manage it to not upgrade automatically if you installed a kernel package directly |
| 08:05.47 | pierre_le | roamon, it's maybe just a warning message about something like legacy sysfs |
| 08:05.56 | hd409 | wols_ thanks. this is the reply of mount http://pastebin.ca/1806513 |
| 08:06.08 | wols_ | fireba11: apt-cache show linux-image-2.6-686;dpkg -l linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 08:06.37 | wols_ | hd409: you plugged in the disk and it is already mounted: /dev/sdd1 on /media/BIR type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=1000) |
| 08:07.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 824] by debhelper |
| 08:07.01 | wols_ | so go to /media/BIR if you click click on /dev/sdd1 or such it probably tries to remount and fail |
| 08:07.08 | *** join/#debian chrisw (~chrisw@160.79.38.244) |
| 08:07.22 | hile | I'm quite sure roamon just has not installed or has removed the meta package at some point, did not get kernel upgrades when they came earlier and is now running old kernel |
| 08:07.23 | hd409 | wols_ thats my usb BIR 8gb.im talking to my 500gb hd enclosure...sorry |
| 08:07.44 | hd409 | wols_ i can access my 8gb usb fine.but not 500gb hd enclosure |
| 08:08.09 | roamon | hile: i tend to think so. how to rectify it? |
| 08:08.33 | hile | meta package like linux-2.6-686 or whatever it should be for that setup... well install the correct meta package for the machine... |
| 08:08.59 | pierre_le | roamon, you can explicitly install package linux-image-2.6.xx where xx is close to 32 |
| 08:09.04 | wols_ | as for the CD/DVD problem, you need to check your burn program for errors. possible use wodim or such on the commandline |
| 08:09.06 | *** join/#debian urbee (~urbee@93-103-199-233.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) |
| 08:09.23 | hile | pierre_le: not needed, he just needs to install the correct meta package |
| 08:09.30 | wols_ | hd409: the 500GB enclosure is a usb device? |
| 08:10.09 | urbee | Hello, i'm doing a debian 5.0 install on HP Proliant Dl380 g3 with 6x72gb 15k hdds in RAID 5 (HP SMart array) - the thing is, debian install just seems stuck at creating partitions at 33% - is it something wrong with the hard drives or is it normal to take so much time because it needs to sync disks or something? |
| 08:10.13 | hile | pierre_le: but we can't know does it need -686, -server, -xen or whatever |
| 08:10.17 | *** join/#debian remTR (~remTR@ip-95-220-146-51.bb.netbynet.ru) |
| 08:10.18 | *** join/#debian wthtt (~wthtt@dyn-49-201.e-sky.ru) |
| 08:10.19 | wols_ | hd409: when you plug it in,it should give you similar entries in your kernel log like the one for your usb stick |
| 08:10.25 | hd409 | wols_ yes.its already attached.but when i double click it Cannot mount volume. Invalid mount option when attempting to mount the volume 'ESPC500'. |
| 08:10.28 | roamon | pierre_le: i can 'apt-get install 2.6.xx' and then just reboot? |
| 08:10.51 | roamon | hile: its a -686 |
| 08:11.03 | wols_ | hd409: then you need to check how your automounter mounts is. tried to mount it manually in a xterm? |
| 08:11.20 | hile | so, install linux-2.6-686 and you magically notice it pulls you a new kernel as well |
| 08:11.24 | *** join/#debian hoarycripple (~hoarycrip@pool-68-160-184-132.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 08:11.31 | pierre_le | roamon, yes you can still try it. ensure to run update-grub2 after that |
| 08:11.46 | hd409 | wols_ honestly i dont know xterm.i use debian desktop only |
| 08:12.01 | hd409 | because it is fast than xp |
| 08:12.10 | hd409 | but now i cannot copy my iportant files |
| 08:12.11 | hile | you are NOT supposed to install the explicit kernel packages manually without installing the meta package |
| 08:12.20 | wols_ | hd409: and I don't know where gnome stores its automounter settings |
| 08:12.34 | *** join/#debian kaziem (~devnull@159.23.106.243) |
| 08:12.55 | hd409 | wols_ i think ive installed lightweight xforce |
| 08:12.58 | hd409 | let me switch |
| 08:12.59 | hd409 | bbl |
| 08:13.11 | wols_ | hd409: run fdisk -l to see what device file your usb disk uses |
| 08:13.12 | *** join/#debian ashledombos (~quassel@mandriva/forum/ashledombos) |
| 08:13.17 | *** join/#debian robrose (~rob@host68-20-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 08:13.29 | wols_ | xfce automounter then. same thing |
| 08:13.35 | hile | roamon: and you can reboot before upgrading udev, or immediately afterwards, or both |
| 08:13.36 | pierre_le | roamon, the metapackage should be linux-image-2.6-YOURARCH |
| 08:14.07 | *** join/#debian CrashFr (~CrashFr@AAubervilliers-151-1-32-55.w83-112.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 08:14.13 | roamon | pierre_le, hile: thks. |
| 08:14.15 | wols_ | pierre_le: not quite. there is no -386 kernel image |
| 08:14.31 | hd409 | wols_ this is the result of fdisk -l http://pastebin.ca/1806525 |
| 08:14.36 | hile | isn't it without -image- in the name, just linux-2.6-foo? |
| 08:14.43 | *** join/#debian remTR (~remTR@ip-95-220-146-51.bb.netbynet.ru) |
| 08:15.20 | hile | I'm on a mac now so can't check these kind of details :) |
| 08:15.38 | wols_ | hile: so you mount sdc5, you formatted your disk with ntfs, right? |
| 08:15.50 | hile | wrong user :) |
| 08:15.52 | wols_ | ,versions linux-image-2.6-486 |
| 08:15.55 | judd | linux-image-2.6-486 -- etch: 2.6.18+6etch3; etch-security: 2.6.18+6etch3; etch-backports: 2.6.26+17~bpo40+2; lenny: 2.6.26+17+lenny1; lenny-backports: 2.6.30+20~bpo50+1; squeeze: 2.6.32+23; sid: 2.6.32+24 |
| 08:16.20 | pierre_le | hile, http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux+image&searchon=names&suite=testing§ion=all |
| 08:17.25 | wols_ | hd409: my guess is, it's because it is, xfce is not properly automounting it. you need to use ntfsmount or ntfs-3g to mount it writable. you then can mount your normal XP partition on /dev/sda1 too |
| 08:17.59 | hd409 | wols_ ok apt-get install ntfsmount |
| 08:18.00 | hile | pierre_le: oh ubuntu has this naming differently, they have just linux-generic - I use all things same time and get confused |
| 08:18.07 | wols_ | hd409: so I suggest you install nfts-3g and ntfsprogs. if you are lucky, xfce then knows how to mount it automatically |
| 08:18.09 | roamon | linux-2.6-686 seems the right one. will go try it. thks again. |
| 08:18.37 | wols_ | hile: shows how ubuntu is bad for you :P |
| 08:18.47 | *** part/#debian henrysmile (~henrysmil@ppp-249-229.21-151.libero.it) |
| 08:18.55 | roamon | should be linux-image-2.6-686. |
| 08:19.00 | hile | yeah, and I'm writing this from os/x, I'm double evil :) |
| 08:19.07 | roamon | bye |
| 08:20.13 | *** join/#debian macrobat (~fuzzyglee@h-150-127.A163.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 08:20.13 | hd409 | wols_ thanks,done install ntfs-3g and ntfsprogs.i will restart debian now |
| 08:20.33 | *** join/#debian CharminTheMoose (~Count_fuz@unaffiliated/charminthemoose) |
| 08:20.34 | hd409 | wols_ hhaha no need to restart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thank you wols_ !!!! |
| 08:20.36 | hd409 | it works |
| 08:20.37 | urbee | debian masterz ? |
| 08:20.41 | urbee | anyone care to answer me |
| 08:20.42 | urbee | :P |
| 08:20.44 | hd409 | *hugs* wols_ :) |
| 08:20.54 | hd409 | important files ready to copy |
| 08:21.00 | hd409 | huhuh thank you wols_ thank you so much |
| 08:21.54 | hd409 | wols_ should i reformat my debian lenny for dvdrom can read again files? |
| 08:22.03 | hd409 | it works in fresh install |
| 08:22.16 | wols_ | urbee: we are not omniscient. got to another console and check which process takes so long and what it does |
| 08:22.37 | wols_ | hd409: need more info. what happens if you insert a non-blank dvd? |
| 08:22.41 | urbee | wols_: another console? how ? |
| 08:22.45 | hd409 | after i update backports, debian lenny unable to read dvd.but cd works.works also in xp dvd/cd |
| 08:22.50 | *** join/#debian EagleWatch (~eaglewatc@magellan.utcluj.ro) |
| 08:22.56 | wols_ | urbee: like always. ctrl+alt+Fx |
| 08:23.03 | urbee | fx? :) |
| 08:23.13 | hd409 | wols_ nothing.it just read and read and theres a blue light.after that no result and blue light shutdown also |
| 08:23.16 | wols_ | your F keys? on your keyboard? |
| 08:23.17 | *** join/#debian smeea (~smeea@89.163.26.137) |
| 08:23.24 | urbee | f and x ? |
| 08:23.24 | urbee | :D |
| 08:23.30 | *** join/#debian badcloud (~raanan@ti400720a342-0297.bb.online.no) |
| 08:23.39 | wols_ | urbee: stop the trolling please |
| 08:23.39 | hd409 | wols_ before when i insert dvd blank, it says an options.like you want to burn or cancel |
| 08:23.53 | urbee | wols_: id ont have any fx key on my keyboard :) |
| 08:23.57 | urbee | thats why i asked |
| 08:24.00 | wols_ | hd409: are we talking about dvd burning or reading a dvd with data on it? |
| 08:24.10 | wols_ | puts the urbee moron on ignore |
| 08:24.19 | hd409 | wols_ i think this is ok.ill reformat my debian lenny into fresh installs.ive done so many mistakes in the debian.let me go back to fresh install. |
| 08:24.20 | urbee | gr8 |
| 08:24.30 | *** join/#debian derpderpderp (~derp@dslb-092-076-176-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 08:24.34 | hd409 | wols_ reading data.it wont read.but in xp it will read |
| 08:24.41 | wols_ | hd409: debian is not windows. reformatting won't solve the problem |
| 08:25.01 | wols_ | hd409: so put in a dvd and check what happens. |
| 08:25.05 | hd409 | but in debian, cd blank will read |
| 08:25.18 | wols_ | also, what backport(s) did you install? when did the problem start? |
| 08:25.18 | hd409 | ok putting blank dvd |
| 08:25.29 | wols_ | blank dvds are NEVER read... |
| 08:25.32 | *** join/#debian MrWax (waxboy@mail.midegro.com) |
| 08:25.34 | MrWax | which package I need to install again to run visudo? |
| 08:25.38 | OpenTokix | hd409: no it will trick you thinking that, creating a "fake" place for you to put data that you can write |
| 08:25.46 | hd409 | wols_ ohhh ok.ill insert dvd with data |
| 08:26.06 | wols_ | MrWax: http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=visudo |
| 08:26.28 | OpenTokix | Holy crap that was some good coffee! Hellow WORLD! |
| 08:27.42 | *** join/#debian benf (benf2004@unaffiliated/benf2004) |
| 08:27.42 | hd409 | wols_ inserted dvd with files.still reading. |
| 08:28.20 | *** join/#debian jfblend (~j.faassen@linkorb.xs4all.nl) |
| 08:28.22 | K0JIbKA | hd409:I have familiar problem - CD/DVD won't erase/write in default Lenny/GNOME environment |
| 08:28.23 | *** join/#debian f00bar80 (~f00bar80@41.234.168.159) |
| 08:28.48 | f00bar80 | trying to mount -t smbfs or cifs a windows shared drive from my debian lenny, i got in dmesg CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code=-111/110 , at the time i can ping machines the tow ways, i tried to google it but always unlucky, any comment ? i even turned off windows Firewall and avast protection on the Winbox |
| 08:29.15 | hd409 | wols_ still reading.. the dvd works fine in xp if i boot xp. for backports.this is the howto that i followed.because i get W: PGP error so i follow this and edited my sources.list and it works fine when i update debian. http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=40468 |
| 08:29.53 | K0JIbKA | so, I installed commercial Nero/Linux. it does all just perfect, except problem to extract DVD from the tray |
| 08:29.58 | *** join/#debian hayleyw (~hayleyw@c-98-227-175-151.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 08:30.04 | hd409 | K0JIbKA : but it works before.when i update the backports error, it leads to this that it cannot read dvd |
| 08:30.22 | wols_ | that's not what I asked. I asked which packages you installed from backports that made it stop working. they backports gpg keys are not it |
| 08:30.36 | *** join/#debian Welsh_Dwarf (~quassel@ip-11.net-82-216-143.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 08:30.36 | hd409 | wols_ nothing happen.its done reading i guess because there is no blue light |
| 08:30.39 | K0JIbKA | in my case reading with no problem |
| 08:30.50 | wols_ | hd409: can you access the dvd? what happens if you try? |
| 08:31.53 | *** join/#debian chaochao (~d3@78-69-239-122-no110.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 08:31.59 | hd409 | wols_ if i double click CD-RW/DVD+RW Drive it says : Unable to mount media.There is probably no media in the drive. |
| 08:32.19 | K0JIbKA | hd409:same |
| 08:32.44 | *** part/#debian MrWax (waxboy@mail.midegro.com) |
| 08:32.55 | wols_ | hd409: last time: what did you install from backports that made it stop working? |
| 08:32.56 | K0JIbKA | mouting/unmounting causes all |
| 08:32.58 | hd409 | K0JIbKA : but it works before backports updating |
| 08:33.19 | hd409 | wols_ this is what i followed http://doc.cliss21.com/index.php?title=Backports |
| 08:33.38 | K0JIbKA | for me it's still so from initial install at my Toshiba Satellite |
| 08:33.39 | hd409 | wols_ i copy the stable and backports repository |
| 08:33.42 | wols_ | hd409: that is not what I asked. what package(s) did you install from backports |
| 08:34.08 | wols_ | you said it started when you installed something frm backports. what did you install from there then? |
| 08:34.12 | *** part/#debian urbee (~urbee@93-103-199-233.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) |
| 08:34.18 | hd409 | wols_ nothing. i just follow this aptitude install build-essential |
| 08:34.30 | *** join/#debian verwilst (~verwilst@router.begen1.office.netnoc.eu) |
| 08:34.36 | hd409 | and then i put the stable and backports repository and then i apt-get install update |
| 08:34.40 | hd409 | thats all i do wols_ |
| 08:34.49 | wols_ | hd409: why did you add backport repos then in the first place? |
| 08:35.05 | *** join/#debian ZeZu (~null@c-69-245-229-8.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 08:35.10 | *** join/#debian Zylvain (~Zylvain@AToulouse-257-1-75-235.w90-5.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 08:35.21 | hd409 | wols_ i added because of this error W: GPG error: http://www.backports.org lenny-backports Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EA8E8B2116BA136C W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 08:35.31 | *** join/#debian i_am_ed (~i_am_ed@82-69-5-99.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 08:35.41 | hd409 | wols_ same error in this site http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=40468 |
| 08:35.58 | hd409 | wols_ so i followed this tutorial http://doc.cliss21.com/index.php?title=Backports |
| 08:36.07 | wols_ | hd409: no. you added the backports repo which caused this warning. first you added the repo, THEN the error started. so why did you add the repo in the first place? |
| 08:36.18 | hd409 | and now if i do apt-get install update, i receive no errors |
| 08:36.49 | *** join/#debian madi (~madi@unaffiliated/madi) |
| 08:36.53 | hd409 | wols_ i dont know...i just google the error.and it lead to that site in order to get rid of the error signature thing |
| 08:37.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 831] by debhelper |
| 08:37.13 | wols_ | hd409: this is BS. backports aren't in your sources.list by default |
| 08:37.41 | ZeZu | I am trying to upgrade from lenny to squeeze with aptitude and i've run into a million and one dep. errors, is there an easy way to fix? or should i just use netinst to do a full install of squeeze ? |
| 08:37.50 | wols_ | the DVD drive isn't affected in any way by adding a GPG key either. either you answer clearly and truthful or you can solve your own problems |
| 08:38.04 | wols_ | !tell ZeZu about errors |
| 08:38.18 | wols_ | !tell ZeZu about lenny->squeeze |
| 08:39.04 | hd409 | wols_: this is my sources.list http://pastebin.ca/1806531 |
| 08:39.36 | wols_ | hd409: this is not what I asked. until you answer what I asked for over and over, don't talk to me anymore please |
| 08:39.39 | hd409 | to get rid of the backports error so i followed the site |
| 08:39.48 | *** join/#debian paja (~paja@ip-89-103-132-159.karneval.cz) |
| 08:39.53 | hd409 | wols_ sorry... |
| 08:40.05 | *** join/#debian visof (~visof@41.238.234.175) |
| 08:40.13 | hd409 | wols_ english is not my main dialect...can you talk tagalog? |
| 08:40.26 | *** join/#debian MrWax (waxboy@mail.midegro.com) |
| 08:40.32 | wols_ | !tagalog |
| 08:40.32 | dpkg | i guess tagalog is the official language of the Phillipines. Sumali sa #Debian-tl para sa talakayan ng Debian sa wikang tagalog |
| 08:40.45 | MrWax | if in a howto is stated, "Add the following to the proper httpd.conf (e.g. /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf) sections:" which .conf file in my debian install is ment? |
| 08:40.48 | MrWax | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:40.49 | MrWax | etc |
| 08:40.52 | wonderwal | hi i have bought a NAS server which runs debian and allows me to ssh in as root, but it seems to be denying me console access. it wont even show init scripts running or a login prompt, how can i change this? |
| 08:40.57 | *** join/#debian everyday (~wdf@222.64.146.123) |
| 08:41.02 | *** join/#debian kemerten (~kemerten@195.72.104.167) |
| 08:41.05 | hd409 | wols_ i didnt install anythiing.i just update the debian |
| 08:41.14 | *** join/#debian morfol (~morfol@port-92-195-4-222.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 08:41.23 | wols_ | MrWax: grep -r LoadModule /etc/apache2/* will give you a pretty good guess |
| 08:41.56 | MrWax | wols_: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled ? |
| 08:42.07 | hd409 | anyways thanks wols_ my 500gb recognize now except the drive of windows and dvd |
| 08:42.14 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@93.9.34.10) |
| 08:42.17 | everyday | dose the current testing has the virtualbox-ose-modules-2.6.30-2-686 package? |
| 08:42.22 | hd409 | ill reinstall debian lenny and ill get back here for update for dvd |
| 08:42.23 | wols_ | wonderwal: show where? |
| 08:42.26 | hd409 | thanks :) |
| 08:42.40 | MrWax | wols_: http://www.privatepaste.com/07f783a67c |
| 08:42.52 | wols_ | everyday: packages.debian.org knows. but since .30 isn't a testing kernel iirc, I doubt it |
| 08:42.57 | MrWax | i need to add that to a file called httpd.conf, can u maybe help, you know if this should be already added? |
| 08:43.18 | wonderwal | wols_: to monitor when VGA cable is plugged in |
| 08:43.49 | ethanol | Leftfield <3 |
| 08:44.10 | everyday | wols_: thank you. i'll try to find it |
| 08:44.19 | wols_ | MrWax: grep -r mod_stats /etc/apache2/ |
| 08:44.40 | MrWax | wols_: no results |
| 08:44.42 | *** join/#debian ^shark_ (~Jerry_Jor@41.217.237.179) |
| 08:44.44 | wols_ | wonderwal: uname -a |
| 08:44.51 | MrWax | wols_: for grep -r mod_stats /etc/apache2/ |
| 08:44.52 | wols_ | MrWax: grep -r mod_status /etc/apache2/ |
| 08:44.57 | wonderwal | wols_ customized kernel by vendor |
| 08:45.10 | wols_ | wonderwal: then ask the vendor |
| 08:45.40 | MrWax | wols_: http://www.privatepaste.com/e35d2fc9f5 |
| 08:45.49 | wonderwal | wols_: surely there is a way to config debian to disable login prompt or disable init script output? i can tell it's running a modified version of debian |
| 08:46.06 | wols_ | MrWax: fine. know you know where |
| 08:46.15 | MrWax | wols_: no, dont know tbh |
| 08:46.19 | MrWax | wols_: /etc/apache2/apache2.conf ? |
| 08:46.23 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~project25@86.51.114.108) |
| 08:46.33 | wols_ | MrWax: is apache2.conf in the grep output from above? |
| 08:46.43 | MrWax | .apache2.conf.swp is |
| 08:46.59 | MrWax | wols_: tbh i really got no idea where to add this |
| 08:47.23 | wols_ | MrWax: do you understand what you are trying to add? and what grep above show you? |
| 08:47.35 | wols_ | if you don't, maybe you should start trying to understand this file you try to add |
| 08:47.52 | wols_ | MrWax: and what has a comment in apache2.conf to do with anything? |
| 08:48.06 | MrWax | wols_: no dont know |
| 08:48.11 | *** join/#debian Delf (~Delf@unaffiliated/delf) |
| 08:48.14 | MrWax | just need to use this for a cms install |
| 08:48.34 | Delf | How come It says I'm banned when I try to join this channel on my debian machine |
| 08:48.39 | Delf | I'm using same account |
| 08:48.49 | wols_ | you use root? |
| 08:48.56 | *** join/#debian jazz_ (~rev_jazz_@hyperion.ups-tlse.fr) |
| 08:49.12 | Delf | yes |
| 08:49.16 | Delf | is that not allowed? |
| 08:49.26 | *** join/#debian f00bar80 (~f00bar80@41.239.44.250) |
| 08:49.30 | MrWax | wols_: mod_status.conf? |
| 08:49.42 | wols_ | Delf: no. it's very dangerous and stupid too |
| 08:49.49 | MrWax | wols_: can u please explain, i really dont understand |
| 08:50.38 | *** join/#debian xreal (~mweber@mailgw.FB12.Uni-Dortmund.DE) |
| 08:50.44 | xreal | How can I list the content of a bz2 file? |
| 08:51.04 | *** join/#debian kaziem (~devnull@159.23.106.243) |
| 08:51.07 | *** join/#debian nhandler_ (~nhandler@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nhandler) |
| 08:51.30 | wols_ | xreal: the "content" of a bz2 file is simply the uncompressed file |
| 08:51.52 | xreal | wols_: ? |
| 08:52.03 | MrWax | wols_: is the file in there? |
| 08:52.04 | xreal | I want to know the size when unextracted ;-) |
| 08:52.41 | *** join/#debian intx (x@CPE0050bf9264c4-CM000f2120a5ec.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 08:52.46 | intx | there still backports available for debian? |
| 08:52.46 | *** join/#debian Delf1 (~Delf@unaffiliated/delf) |
| 08:53.00 | Delf1 | Yay! |
| 08:53.05 | everyday | i've got the "blacklist video" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, but this module is still loaded, don't know how to make the blacklist work |
| 08:53.19 | cahoot | rebuilt initramfs too? |
| 08:53.22 | wols_ | xreal: is it a tar archive? |
| 08:53.30 | xreal | wols_: I don't know. |
| 08:53.38 | wols_ | xreal: what file is it? |
| 08:53.39 | xreal | it doesn't have .tar.bz2 |
| 08:53.51 | cahoot | everyday: read the info in /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 08:54.01 | xreal | http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/germany.osm.bz2 |
| 08:54.08 | everyday | k, thank you |
| 08:54.21 | wols_ | xreal: only way to check is to actually uncompress it, sorry. at least if it's a simple bz2 file. with a tarfile you can list the files inside the tarball and add their sizes up |
| 08:54.28 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe (~havoc@SE400.PPPoE-113.sa.bih.net.ba) |
| 08:54.37 | xreal | Okay ;-( |
| 08:54.41 | xreal | damn slow RAID-1 ;-) |
| 08:54.42 | *** join/#debian hid3 (~tst@lan-78-157-71-116.vln.skynet.lt) |
| 08:54.47 | wols_ | check what kind of fileformat "osm" is |
| 08:54.55 | xreal | wols_: OpenStreetMap |
| 08:55.12 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@84.119.83.196) |
| 08:55.22 | *** join/#debian mastro (~mastro@62.101.100.5) |
| 08:55.29 | *** join/#debian St0n3-C0l (~shakil@221.120.233.41) |
| 08:55.35 | *** join/#debian St0n3-C0l (~shakil@unaffiliated/st0n3/x-000000001) |
| 08:55.57 | xreal | wols_: A kind of SML. |
| 08:55.58 | xreal | XML |
| 08:56.12 | wols_ | then it will probably be big in the end :) |
| 08:56.39 | *** join/#debian kaziem (~devnull@159.23.106.243) |
| 08:56.49 | St0n3-C0l | Is there any solution for Flash available to help it make better and run smoothly? I've got an old xOrg and running i810 driver but Flash is still sluggish on websites, I mean it really makes my browser crawl which is giving me a lot of trouble. |
| 08:57.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 840] by debhelper |
| 08:57.05 | xreal | wolss: Thanks for help anyway ;-) |
| 08:58.23 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~project25@86.51.114.108) |
| 08:59.10 | *** join/#debian Azrael_- (~awef@p4FFF6AEE.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 08:59.24 | wols_ | St0n3-C0l: flash has nothing to do with your video. that is why it's so abysmally sluggish |
| 08:59.45 | wols_ | you could maybe watch flash video with vlc instead? |
| 09:00.00 | St0n3-C0l | Well, actually I am not watching flash videos on browser |
| 09:00.09 | St0n3-C0l | Browsing websites which have flash installed. |
| 09:00.19 | St0n3-C0l | Which are heavily on flash.. |
| 09:00.24 | St0n3-C0l | makes it run very slow! |
| 09:00.24 | *** join/#debian p0g0 (~pogo@unaffiliated/p0g0) |
| 09:00.39 | wols_ | if you use iceweasel use an extension that loads a flash applet only on click |
| 09:00.56 | St0n3-C0l | hmm.. |
| 09:01.02 | St0n3-C0l | can u name that extension please? |
| 09:01.10 | St0n3-C0l | if you know it |
| 09:01.11 | wols_ | all you can do is bitch and moan at adobe. if there was a way to make flash faster, don't you think everyone would have done it by now? *g* |
| 09:01.22 | St0n3-C0l | haha! |
| 09:01.23 | dobie_gillis | St0n3-C0l: think it's flashblock |
| 09:01.34 | St0n3-C0l | aah thanks dobie |
| 09:01.55 | wols_ | I use noscript but that does more than just that. you can use ones liike flashblock |
| 09:02.05 | wols_ | oops. too late |
| 09:02.11 | St0n3-C0l | haha |
| 09:02.30 | *** join/#debian Arafangion (~arafangio@60-241-250-19.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 09:03.16 | St0n3-C0l | that will make my life on linux easier :) |
| 09:03.16 | *** join/#debian ryan-c (~ryan@c-98-207-154-10.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:03.18 | St0n3-C0l | thanks guys.. |
| 09:04.11 | Delf1 | How do I set up a NAT? |
| 09:04.16 | *** join/#debian Tiffon (~name@unaffiliated/tiff0n) |
| 09:04.25 | wols_ | Delf1: aptitude install ipmasq |
| 09:05.02 | *** join/#debian abchirk_ (~abchirk@unaffiliated/abchirk) |
| 09:05.04 | Delf1 | I've installed the DNS Server too, when I installed debian and anything else to do with server |
| 09:05.25 | Delf1 | However, I don't see anything to do with DNS or DHCP in the menus |
| 09:05.34 | wols_ | while bind9 works as a caching dns server, I'm not sure you'd want that. for a small NAT router, dnsmasq is much more suited |
| 09:05.59 | wols_ | which menus? bind9 or dhcp-servers don't have menus in X |
| 09:06.24 | Delf1 | Where do they have menus then? |
| 09:06.27 | Delf1 | Nowhere? |
| 09:06.28 | wols_ | nowhere |
| 09:06.33 | Delf1 | Holy hell.. |
| 09:06.43 | Delf1 | How would I know how to set them up? |
| 09:06.52 | wols_ | with those, you are supposed to know what you are doing. they're servers after all |
| 09:06.56 | *** join/#debian Robbie (~robbie@router.begen1.office.netnoc.eu) |
| 09:07.04 | wols_ | you read documentation or big big books about it |
| 09:07.18 | Delf1 | Where are the documentations for those |
| 09:07.19 | wols_ | trust me, you don't need either of these two for what you are doing |
| 09:07.26 | *** join/#debian thorben (~t@omhp-uva-29-145.wireless.uva.nl) |
| 09:07.31 | Delf1 | Ok, How do I uninstall them then? |
| 09:07.41 | St0n3-C0l | ok guys, I am off. Thanks a ton again :) |
| 09:07.51 | wols_ | tasksel should be able to do it. otherwise: unsintall them like any other package |
| 09:08.07 | Delf1 | I've never uninstalled anything on Debian |
| 09:08.19 | wols_ | as I said, you want to use dnsmasq. it's a combined dns and dhcp server. but no GUI config tool for it either. you configure it by editing /etc/dnsmasq.conf |
| 09:08.36 | wols_ | Delf1: then maybe you should read the debian documentation itself |
| 09:08.40 | wols_ | !tell Delf1 about apt howto |
| 09:08.53 | wols_ | !tell Delf1 about reference |
| 09:09.11 | Delf1 | holy jesus, I did tasksel in termina and unselected the things, it's removing then now, seems simple but who would know theres such thing as tasksel? |
| 09:09.40 | wols_ | somoene who reads the documentation would... |
| 09:10.22 | project2501a | mmm. how do submit a bug report? |
| 09:10.36 | wols_ | project2501a: /msg dpkg reportbug |
| 09:10.42 | project2501a | danke |
| 09:10.50 | Delf1 | There is too much to remember, why hasn't anyone made gui's? |
| 09:10.51 | iceroot | i am searching for something like "aptitude upgrade check && echo "yes there is an update" || echo "no there is no update" |
| 09:10.52 | *** join/#debian lvh (~lvh@83.101.62.190) |
| 09:11.04 | *** join/#debian ndrs__ (~andres@84-203-45-145.mysmart.ie) |
| 09:11.53 | hile | delf1 you really think a gui makes doing some task somehow magically easier, when you have no idea what you should be doing? |
| 09:12.19 | Delf1 | hile: no, not magically, but a way to find out what options I got. |
| 09:12.59 | wols_ | even with guis you need to be able to read |
| 09:13.14 | hile | this is not your home nat router which has 10 different choices, which you can show on a screen |
| 09:13.15 | Delf1 | I can read, no problem with that. |
| 09:13.45 | hile | there are thousands of networking related packages, and there are 10-20 options for DNS server for different purposes |
| 09:13.51 | Delf1 | 10 different choices too much for a screen? |
| 09:13.53 | wols_ | then start with it. you know that there is a o'reilly book for bind which is 500+ pages? do you really want to put all that into a GUI? |
| 09:14.09 | wols_ | hile: 10? hundreds |
| 09:14.26 | *** join/#debian Yu\2 (~Yu@2001:638:504:f1f6:213:77ff:feb6:afb0) |
| 09:14.28 | jelly | Delf1: in many cases, open source software is created or adapted to scratch someone's itch. If there's no decent UI, it's because those able to write it haven't felt a need for it themselves. |
| 09:14.32 | Delf1 | I think fullhd screen could do a few hundred |
| 09:14.41 | hile | wols, just talking about options to choose different server products,not conifugration options |
| 09:14.45 | Delf1 | and tabs and categorizing and whatever |
| 09:14.52 | wols_ | Delf1: remember, DNS zoneminder is a full time job at ISPs and there are LOTS of companies who only handly DNS as their business |
| 09:15.02 | hile | .... and then you never find anything from these hundreds of tabs |
| 09:15.27 | wols_ | jelly: I hope no one ever had an itch for bind9 :) |
| 09:15.28 | *** join/#debian Judas_PhD (~kvirc@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 09:15.49 | Delf1 | A SEARCH in the tabs, a few examples or two |
| 09:15.55 | *** join/#debian tempeldirne (~L@frnk-590c8eae.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 09:16.00 | jelly | wols_: a reference implementation is good to have, no matter how ugly it ends up |
| 09:16.05 | hile | or if you simply just would read the damn documentation |
| 09:16.08 | Delf1 | This is PRO-friendly |
| 09:16.08 | wols_ | Delf1: fine. write one. we all applaud it when it's done. have a nice day |
| 09:16.14 | Delf1 | not-user friendly |
| 09:16.28 | wols_ | Delf1: DBS is a job for professionals |
| 09:16.28 | hile | setting up servers is not user-friendly task |
| 09:16.33 | wols_ | *DNS |
| 09:16.43 | Delf1 | On windows it is |
| 09:16.51 | jelly | Delf1: use windows, then |
| 09:16.58 | wols_ | Delf1: then run windows for your server. have fun |
| 09:17.20 | Delf1 | But I don't like windows |
| 09:17.28 | Delf1 | I like linux, it's just naked, missing gui's |
| 09:17.36 | *** join/#debian wonderwal (~orch`0031@dsl-185-165-108.dynamic.wa.co.za) |
| 09:17.37 | wols_ | you apparently don't like the way linux does things either. tough luck. maybe buy a Mac? |
| 09:17.51 | jelly | there's no easy answer, Delf1. You can either write an interface yourself, pay someone to write it, or try finding a similar product. It may cost money or not, it may be free software or not. |
| 09:17.54 | Delf1 | I hate mac, no offence |
| 09:18.00 | Delf1 | I feel like a apple when i use one |
| 09:18.06 | Delf1 | not a human |
| 09:18.34 | wols_ | Delf1: http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/dnsmasq |
| 09:18.50 | hile | and btw YES linux would do with some well designed system management tools for common services |
| 09:19.06 | wols_ | this thing is so small, you could have done what it statest 3 times now, instead you spent the time whining |
| 09:19.10 | hile | not talking about very basics like user management or network configuration |
| 09:19.13 | *** join/#debian hchavez (~hchavez@unaffiliated/ixp422) |
| 09:19.37 | jelly | Delf1: perhaps you'd be more comfortable with something like http://www.powerdns-gui.org/ |
| 09:19.42 | *** join/#debian themill (~stuart@unaffiliated/themill) |
| 09:19.44 | Delf1 | Ok ok, don't fight |
| 09:19.56 | *** join/#debian dschoepe (~dschoepe@unaffiliated/dschoepe) |
| 09:19.58 | hile | but, writing such applications and a framework where you can add parsers + descriptions for configuration files for new servers is very hard to do |
| 09:20.02 | wols_ | hile: it sometimes has. e.g. what do you think debconf does? or various guis for mailservers, hosting panels, etc? |
| 09:20.14 | hile | yeah, sometimes |
| 09:20.17 | hchavez | hey does anyone know a good program for linux to record mouse macros |
| 09:20.43 | Delf1 | jelly No screenshots? |
| 09:20.51 | hile | debconf does some of it but it's not really finished product, and anyway it's damn hard task |
| 09:21.19 | mischief | i have no idea why i installed grub-pc |
| 09:21.22 | mischief | nothing but trouble |
| 09:21.22 | jelly | Delf1: that's the actual interface. |
| 09:21.22 | *** join/#debian peterrooney (~peter@96.54.162.41) |
| 09:21.36 | jelly | Delf1: are you sure you're able to read? |
| 09:21.59 | jelly | no offense, but there's a 24pt font saying "This is a demo of PowerDNS GUI" |
| 09:22.01 | Delf1 | jelly ok, at leas there are a few buttons with text, better than a black terminal with no buttons |
| 09:22.09 | wols_ | !be a reading barbie |
| 09:22.09 | dpkg | Aww, reading is HARD! Let's go shopping, wols_ |
| 09:22.11 | hchavez | like autohotkey but for Debian tho.... |
| 09:22.22 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 09:22.26 | hile | long term option would be to push servers to use some well-documented and formatted configuration file format, I'm NOT saying XML but it would do the job, and then write the tools to process these files |
| 09:23.01 | themill | Reinventing debconf, preseed and puppet all at once... |
| 09:23.16 | jelly | !xmlsmite hile |
| 09:23.18 | hile | yes, at minimum |
| 09:23.22 | *** join/#debian ravenbird (simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn/bot/ravenbird) |
| 09:24.02 | hile | my point is that the servers should agree to switch to something formal upstream, and this is impossible because everyone just does not agree :) |
| 09:24.18 | wols_ | hile: not even MS, a single company can do this and they have a ruthless dictatorship which could enforce such things. what makes you think thousands of independent projects can? |
| 09:24.44 | Delf1 | jelly how would I be typing here if i were unable to read? |
| 09:25.00 | hile | you might be finnish police officer |
| 09:25.01 | wols_ | Delf1: dragon naturally speaking for linux |
| 09:25.15 | jelly | Delf1: reading implies a modicum of cmprehension. I'm stopping now. |
| 09:25.18 | hile | in finland they say you have two cops, one can read, one can write... |
| 09:25.43 | Delf1 | lol |
| 09:25.52 | *** join/#debian ruyo (~psantos@195.23.253.223) |
| 09:26.11 | hile | wols, yeah but still this is a goal worth getting done some day :) it's like having configuration file processing in POSIX |
| 09:26.15 | hchavez | o and also what is better for Debian virtualbox or vmwares |
| 09:26.35 | Delf1 | I'm not sure that would be useful |
| 09:26.49 | Delf1 | This Debian reference looks like a bible |
| 09:27.03 | wols_ | hchavez: /msg dpkg vmware virtualbox has a GPL version at least |
| 09:27.05 | themill | no, that's Policy. |
| 09:27.19 | hchavez | ty wols_ |
| 09:27.39 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@ghenry.plus.com) |
| 09:27.39 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/ghenry) |
| 09:27.44 | wols_ | themill: what is? |
| 09:27.53 | *** join/#debian shingouz (shingouz@80-186-237-196.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 09:28.01 | *** join/#debian BfrOv3rfl0w (~fl0w@90.146.64.94) |
| 09:29.38 | themill | wols_: <Delf1> This Debian reference looks like a bible |
| 09:29.38 | hchavez | ok its not free... i like the virtualbox so far I thought the vmwares open source.. guess not |
| 09:29.49 | *** join/#debian frostschutz (~frostschu@p5DD31DE8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:30.10 | *** join/#debian MrFahrenheit (~RageOfTho@users-55-84.vinet.ba) |
| 09:31.22 | hile | hchavez: virtual box is not completely free either, at least the full edition (support for USB etc) |
| 09:32.10 | wols_ | is ther anything missing in the OSE version other than usb support for guests? |
| 09:32.27 | *** join/#debian astevens (~astevens@caosvm2.osuosl.org) |
| 09:32.32 | hile | I don't remember the differences exactly |
| 09:32.43 | hchavez | yes that would be nice to have... im mainly looking for mouse macro stuff then i figure Debian has to have a few stuffs that will work then :D |
| 09:33.36 | hile | hchavez: if you need to run debian servers in virtual machine under linux, not desktops, I think kvm is the best option right now |
| 09:33.50 | hchavez | i never use the USB stuff but i used the open version and not too sure of the differences other tnan.... |
| 09:34.24 | hchavez | KVM... yea.. processor is too old for that.. no virtualization.. otherwise.. |
| 09:34.25 | hile | they have a nice table showing all the differences on the website for anyone really interested |
| 09:34.47 | wols_ | ndrs__: does kvm work without VT? |
| 09:34.49 | hile | hchavez: and you seemed to do desktops anyway, not running a server farm? |
| 09:35.37 | hchavez | ok hmm im not sure i know the difference hile |
| 09:35.55 | hchavez | ok im trying to just run firefox basically |
| 09:36.04 | *** join/#debian buntfalke (~nobody@unaffiliated/buntfalke) |
| 09:36.16 | hchavez | and some mouse macro thats it |
| 09:36.18 | hile | well you have graphics etc for the computers, not running some company servers hidden to the data center |
| 09:36.24 | *** join/#debian scorche` (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) |
| 09:36.41 | hchavez | hile: ok gotcha |
| 09:36.54 | hchavez | yea the desktop then |
| 09:37.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 847] by debhelper |
| 09:37.21 | hile | kvm/libvirt setup tools are not yet as polished as virtualbox or vmware, but when it's running I prefer virsh for usual management - business as usual |
| 09:37.49 | hchavez | for some reason i figure id need virtualbox or vmware.. i have athlon cpu |
| 09:37.54 | hile | anyway, for desktop virtualization under linux I would choose virtualbox |
| 09:38.00 | *** join/#debian pihhan (~pihhan@pihhan.cipis.net) |
| 09:38.58 | hchavez | hile: ok yea the kvm sounds like it is worth upgrading CPU for :D |
| 09:39.40 | hchavez | i might be mistaken in that it needs the virtualization in cpu.. i think so |
| 09:40.04 | *** join/#debian T057 (~T057@slb50-2-88-175-5-16.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 09:40.28 | wols_ | hchavez: what athlon cpu exactly is it? |
| 09:40.47 | hile | I don't think kvm is suitable for desktop virtualization, the GUI tools are too rough still |
| 09:41.25 | hile | hchavez: and 'virsh' was the command line tool for kvm management, if you did not know :) |
| 09:42.01 | hchavez | wols_: it is athlon mobile xp |
| 09:42.24 | hchavez | hile: yes, i figured with the 'sh' at teh end :D |
| 09:42.55 | wols_ | no VT then |
| 09:43.08 | wols_ | so no kvm for you |
| 09:43.28 | hile | anyway, our company uses at least somewhere right now xen,kvm,virtualbox,vmware on linux, vmware esx and vmware on mac, and parallels on mac ... I have long term project to simplyfy things here :) |
| 09:43.40 | hchavez | yea.. bummer i was kinda hoping now you remind me my CPU is outdated xD |
| 09:44.30 | *** join/#debian kpal (eart0186@raven.linux.ox.ac.uk) |
| 09:44.41 | wols_ | well, athlonx have ahigher chance of having VT since amd put it in their cpus across the whole range after some point while intel still releases CPUs now that don'thave it |
| 09:44.44 | hile | point with this list, most virtualization solutions are a'ok anyway, and have different strengths and problems - there is no silver bullet really |
| 09:44.50 | rettub | btw, I plan to use virtualbox with lenny too. What would you prefer: using backports or deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian lenny non-free |
| 09:45.10 | hchavez | hile: yea hehe, sounds like it hehe helpfull stuff xen looked good but it looks hard to set up.. |
| 09:45.13 | rettub | or the snv and just compile it ... |
| 09:45.32 | wols_ | rettub: depends. GPLed vbox with backports is preferable unless you need usb support for your guests |
| 09:45.57 | bhagat | where I can down load Realltek RTL8168C(P)/8111C(P) PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC driver for my debian leny installation |
| 09:46.01 | hile | hchavez: we don't have xen enterprise stuff, and the xen under debian servers will move to kvm when I upgrade the setup, but right now it works, no reason to do changes |
| 09:46.05 | rettub | no, don't need usb, I'll use bpo then - thx! |
| 09:46.10 | *** join/#debian futuro (~futuro@174-20-4-248.mpls.qwest.net) |
| 09:46.29 | futuro | does anyone know what the difference is between a package and it's -dev variant? |
| 09:46.36 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@unaffiliated/salvin) |
| 09:46.59 | hchavez | wols_: thats Interesting point... intel still releases CPUs now that don'thave it |
| 09:47.07 | romgo | Hi guys, I just setup a mirror with ftpsync. I started to create my mirror ith ARCH ia64. But I made a mistake I wanted the ARCH amd64. I just kill the process, modify my ftpsync.conf and restart the ftpsync process. I would like to know if all the packets from the ia64 ARCH will be deleted ? |
| 09:47.35 | futuro | I'm trying to get the same functionality of libsdl1.2-dev when compiling from source. |
| 09:47.42 | *** join/#debian pascal_ (~quassel@gruyere.kerlabs.com) |
| 09:49.25 | bhagat | does anyone have a link to share to download Realtek RTL8168C(P)/8111C(P) PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC driver |
| 09:49.25 | bhagat | ? |
| 09:49.26 | *** join/#debian NoNaMeNo (~NoNaMeNo@tb213-185-227-85.cust.teknikbyran.com) |
| 09:49.31 | wols_ | futuro: -dev packages are header files and other things you need when you develop software or compile it |
| 09:49.33 | Delf1 | The motivation would be freedom, not logical ease of use |
| 09:49.45 | hchavez | hile: i see now kvm is more geared for server farms.. yes i agree virtualbox it is then.. |
| 09:49.56 | *** join/#debian n3rd (~hemanth@59.97.56.60) |
| 09:50.03 | wols_ | bhagat: install the firmware from non-free repos |
| 09:50.08 | hchavez | still imma upgrade cpu :D |
| 09:50.15 | futuro | wols_: how would I go about getting the header files if I'm compiling from source? |
| 09:50.27 | wols_ | futuro: you simply install the -dev package |
| 09:50.38 | hchavez | thank you all |
| 09:50.38 | *** join/#debian do0ob (~ace@79-68-133-87.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 09:50.51 | wols_ | futuro: build-dep will pull in all needed dependencies for building the package automatically |
| 09:50.58 | *** join/#debian hid3 (~tst@lan-78-157-71-116.vln.skynet.lt) |
| 09:51.24 | wols_ | hchavez: you will need to uptrade your mainboard and memory too then. probably videocard as well |
| 09:51.29 | wols_ | *upgrade |
| 09:52.00 | project2501a | good morning #debian |
| 09:52.32 | futuro | ok, I think I'm on the right track, thank you |
| 09:52.41 | Delf1 | morning |
| 09:52.42 | hchavez | wols_: yeah, i am not sure if i want to go for a DDR3 system or not.. i have DDR 1 ram yea... :p |
| 09:53.33 | wols_ | hchavez: there is no way you can continue to use your DDR1. and since DDR3 costs the same now as DDR2, no need to go DDR2 anymore |
| 09:53.40 | hchavez | DDR2 is soo cheap |
| 09:53.50 | wols_ | no it's not. not anymore |
| 09:53.52 | hchavez | orly... |
| 09:53.58 | hchavez | cool! |
| 09:54.14 | hchavez | so i7 then |
| 09:54.15 | *** join/#debian krion (~seb@unaffiliated/krion) |
| 09:54.36 | hile | i7 is overkill, but if you want to pay no problem |
| 09:54.37 | hchavez | dam thats still gonna be spendy.. i might go for a quad core |
| 09:54.56 | hchavez | hile: yeah... |
| 09:55.13 | hile | everything these days is quadcore, unless you get atom or mobile stuff |
| 09:55.17 | *** join/#debian SPF (~spf@ip4da58de3.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 09:56.03 | wols_ | tons of dualcores are still sold |
| 09:56.06 | *** join/#debian Seb (~Seb@untangle/dev/seb) |
| 09:56.07 | *** join/#debian icebrain (~icebrain@gw-e-U-EdII.nat.fct.unl.pt) |
| 09:56.13 | hchavez | ok i havent checked in a while what the prices i thought ddr3 still too much |
| 09:56.50 | *** join/#debian pandaroo (~user0@78.167.48.29) |
| 09:57.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 855] by debhelper |
| 09:57.41 | *** join/#debian flower (~d@cc305009-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) |
| 09:57.50 | bhagat | wols_, can you help me with a link, I searched it in non free repository no match found :( |
| 09:57.59 | hile | hchavez, right now for desktop in cheaper middle range (cheap quad) amd has best bang for buck over average i5 models, then higher end i5 or i7 intel is the only sensible option |
| 09:58.29 | *** join/#debian nkuttler (~nkuttler@dslb-188-097-082-216.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 09:58.34 | pandaroo | Hello. I'm running squeeze and want to install uclibc but only the sources are in the repos, the binaries aren't there. Why would such a thing happen? NB I have included non-free in my sources.list |
| 09:59.01 | *** join/#debian kroddn (~kroddn@port-213-009-033-002.adsl.ncore.de) |
| 09:59.17 | hile | amd motherboards are still a bit cheaper than similar level i5 boards ... but this is offtopic, you will find your system I'm sure |
| 09:59.19 | wols_ | bhagat: which debian branch? |
| 09:59.19 | *** join/#debian ycas (~yann@84.114.50.173) |
| 09:59.33 | hchavez | hile: i would consider overclocking as long as its air cooled.. then the video card... ;p |
| 09:59.34 | wols_ | pandaroo: could be a license issue |
| 09:59.35 | bhagat | leny |
| 09:59.48 | wols_ | pandaroo: and debian only uses uclibc for crosscompiling afaik |
| 09:59.57 | bhagat | wols : leny |
| 09:59.58 | hchavez | hile: hehe yea way OT.. |
| 10:00.04 | wols_ | bhagat: you might need a newer kernel then |
| 10:00.27 | wols_ | bhagat: get a backports kernel and http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/firmware-linux |
| 10:00.54 | *** join/#debian kaziem (~devnull@159.23.106.243) |
| 10:00.54 | pandaroo | wols_, thank you, I wanted to use uclibc to compile kismet because it doesn't recognise any of my 3 versions of gcc stdc++ libs |
| 10:01.12 | wols_ | !,versions kismet |
| 10:01.19 | wols_ | ,versions kismet |
| 10:01.22 | judd | kismet -- etch: 2006.04.R1-1.1; lenny: 2008-05-R1-4; sid: 2008-05-R1-4.1; squeeze: 2008-05-R1-4.1 |
| 10:01.59 | pandaroo | as you can see, the most recent version is from about 2 years ago. I want to compile the one from this year :) |
| 10:02.33 | wols_ | then it stands to reason newer libstdc++ should work |
| 10:02.56 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@88.103.15.70) |
| 10:03.20 | pandaroo | Do I have to do something after installing the relevant libstdc++ package in order for applications to "see" it? |
| 10:03.40 | azeem_ | pandaroo: no |
| 10:03.45 | bhagat | wols: downloaded firmware-linux, can you suggest the next steps what I have to do ? |
| 10:03.59 | pandaroo | azeem_, OK, thank you |
| 10:04.00 | azeem_ | pandaroo: well, restart applications using it, obviously |
| 10:04.14 | wols_ | bhagat: install a backports kernel /msg dpkg backports |
| 10:04.36 | wols_ | pandaroo: if you tell us the error(s) we might be able to help |
| 10:04.55 | *** join/#debian dansushi (~dan@147.4.211.193) |
| 10:05.44 | pandaroo | wols_, OK, how do I copy text from X terminal emulator? |
| 10:05.57 | *** join/#debian pascal_ (~quassel@gruyere.kerlabs.com) |
| 10:06.05 | azeem_ | with your mouse |
| 10:06.21 | *** join/#debian wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-63-58.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 10:06.43 | pandaroo | azeem_, right clicking de-highlights text and does not bring up a menu |
| 10:07.00 | pandaroo | should I be using a WM better than xfce? |
| 10:07.01 | azeem_ | pandaroo: you select with left click and paste with middle-click |
| 10:07.20 | pandaroo | azeem_, ah, thank you. You're very patient. |
| 10:07.25 | hchavez | alternately paste with shift+insert |
| 10:07.51 | hchavez | although mouse is handy |
| 10:08.45 | hchavez | speaking of mouse, anyone recommend a mouse macro recording tool? |
| 10:08.45 | pandaroo | OK, doing ./configure for kismet returns this at the end of the checks: configure: error: Neither uclibc uClibc++ or standard gcc stdc++ libraries found. |
| 10:09.04 | pandaroo | I've just installed 3 different versions each of gcc and stdc++ libs |
| 10:10.02 | hchavez | maybe you need development packages pandaroo |
| 10:10.17 | hchavez | wait, dont listen to me |
| 10:10.20 | hchavez | lol |
| 10:10.24 | wols_ | pandaroo: you need to check the configure log and cache file |
| 10:10.40 | pandaroo | wols_, OK |
| 10:10.53 | wols_ | pandaroo: and hchavez is right, you must have the -dev packages installed |
| 10:11.19 | hchavez | yea it sounded like maybe that ;p |
| 10:11.26 | *** join/#debian wthtt (~wthtt@dyn-7-36.e-sky.ru) |
| 10:11.30 | pandaroo | wols_, hchavez, OK, let me try that |
| 10:11.38 | *** join/#debian digitalmortician (~digitalmo@77.245.31.57) |
| 10:12.41 | *** join/#debian Ergo^ (~ergo@pc-55018.zdnet.com.pl) |
| 10:13.16 | *** join/#debian debiansid (~siddhesh@triband-mum-120.61.11.45.mtnl.net.in) |
| 10:13.18 | hchavez | i would hate to install win me in virtualbox hehe i need something like autohotkey for windows |
| 10:13.44 | TheAvatar | Is it not possible to define sender (MAIL FROM:) when using 'mail' from the command line? |
| 10:14.32 | *** join/#debian corellian (~corellian@183.Red-80-33-90.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 10:14.52 | hchavez | the return address? |
| 10:15.54 | hchavez | i think some most mta recognize it but how to put it in the commandline?? |
| 10:15.56 | TheAvatar | no, the sender address - not the reply-to etc |
| 10:16.00 | pandaroo | OK, it appears the dev packages were installed already and were what I was referring to as the 3 versions of stdc++ libs. Nevertheless I installed the debug packages too for good measure, still doesn't work |
| 10:16.17 | TheAvatar | so the mail appears to come from a given address, not being the hostname (fqdn) of the sending box |
| 10:16.47 | wols_ | pandaroo: have you looked where I told you to? |
| 10:17.38 | pandaroo | wols_, what generally are the names of the files you were referring to? |
| 10:17.58 | azeem_ | TheAvatar: mailx -a "From: foo@bar" ... seems to work |
| 10:18.12 | azeem_ | haven't tested it properly though |
| 10:18.38 | *** join/#debian markit (~marco@adsl-156-149.38-151.net24.it) |
| 10:18.51 | azeem_ | TheAvatar: of course, it is preferred that you properly configure your MTA |
| 10:18.53 | TheAvatar | let me give that a try - I can see right away if it works, as I need to mail from given sender into a ticket system |
| 10:18.59 | hchavez | thats the reply to address |
| 10:19.05 | *** join/#debian SiNiESTrO (~siniestro@179.Red-80-33-148.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 10:19.12 | azeem_ | hchavez: ? |
| 10:19.26 | markit | hi, I need to install an older kenerl, I've sid and I've added "etch" in sources.list, apt-get update. How can I find those older kernel? apt-cache search shows me only the sid ones |
| 10:19.30 | azeem_ | it won't change the envelope, of course |
| 10:19.45 | hchavez | azeem_: From: |
| 10:19.52 | azeem_ | hchavez: that's the From: |
| 10:19.54 | hchavez | right |
| 10:19.56 | azeem_ | not the Reply-To: |
| 10:20.12 | azeem_ | if you call the From: header the "reply to address", then fine |
| 10:20.24 | hchavez | yes the reply to that maybe not in command line |
| 10:20.43 | azeem_ | how is reply to relevant her? |
| 10:20.44 | azeem_ | here* |
| 10:20.51 | hchavez | no its not |
| 10:21.00 | hchavez | ure right |
| 10:22.16 | hchavez | once it goes to his mail server it will still look like it comes from his account? |
| 10:22.35 | azeem_ | that depends on how close you look |
| 10:22.47 | azeem_ | email clients usually display the From: header, not the envolope-from |
| 10:22.59 | hchavez | hmmmm |
| 10:23.19 | TheAvatar | I mail from ssmtp "dummy server" to exim, that mails to a remote mta server, that expects the email to come from a given sender, else the mail is rejected |
| 10:23.43 | azeem_ | I think most ISPs don't accept mail with a different From: than the envelope, unless you have otherwise registered, e.g. via SMTP-auth |
| 10:23.51 | hchavez | ok then it would be correct |
| 10:23.56 | azeem_ | TheAvatar: check /etc/email-adresses |
| 10:24.07 | dondelelcaro | TheAvatar: accepting/rejecting mail based on the envelope is broken |
| 10:24.09 | azeem_ | but not sure it helps you in this case |
| 10:24.27 | azeem_ | dondelelcaro: his client was setting a local hostname as domain in the From: header I believe |
| 10:24.29 | pandaroo | wols_, I have found a file called config.log and examined it, as far as I understand there was a problem with gcc, but I still don't know what or where a cache file is |
| 10:24.38 | TheAvatar | it looks correct as far as I can see |
| 10:24.46 | dondelelcaro | TheAvatar: you should do it based on TLS or allowing local connections only |
| 10:25.40 | dondelelcaro | but yes, it's certainly possible to set the envelope from using /usr/lib/sendmail -f or similar |
| 10:26.18 | azeem_ | his ticket system is filtering based on the from: header, AIUI |
| 10:26.31 | hchavez | there are many more things to worry about when trying to send email |
| 10:26.51 | hchavez | but that is something i did not know about |
| 10:27.47 | hchavez | is the envelope the 'header'? |
| 10:28.03 | azeem_ | no |
| 10:28.09 | azeem_ | this is getting off-topic |
| 10:28.11 | hchavez | no? |
| 10:28.16 | hchavez | yea.. |
| 10:28.29 | *** join/#debian ga_bash (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) |
| 10:28.31 | wols_ | !tell pandaroo about errors |
| 10:28.41 | TheAvatar | yes - the ticket system is filtering based on the from: header (and the system is firewall restricted besides that) |
| 10:29.14 | pandaroo | wols_, do you want to see the entire config.log file? |
| 10:29.50 | wols_ | no |
| 10:30.00 | liable | g one |
| 10:30.05 | liable | bah |
| 10:31.05 | *** join/#debian Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-420457.home.otenet.gr) |
| 10:31.07 | *** part/#debian mdz (~mdz@ubuntu/member/mdz) |
| 10:31.22 | *** join/#debian manic (~manicman@unaffiliated/manicman) |
| 10:31.45 | pandaroo | wols_, that file is filled with code interspersed with mostly cryptic(at least to me) stuff. Other than that, all I get in the way of an error is this: "configure: error: Neither uclibc uClibc++ or standard gcc stdc++ libraries found." |
| 10:32.22 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@h173n6c1o269.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 10:32.24 | *** join/#debian AmokPaule (~AmokPaule@brsg-4dbbaab5.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 10:32.31 | wols_ | pandaroo: repeating the same error message time and again won't solve your problem |
| 10:32.40 | TheAvatar | for whoever helped - using mailx -a "From: xxx" target@mail seems to work - thanks |
| 10:33.03 | *** join/#debian cahoot (~radix@pdpc/supporter/active/cahoot) |
| 10:33.10 | pandaroo | wols_, OK, what should I look for in the config log? |
| 10:33.36 | hchavez | that was azeem_ |
| 10:34.08 | hchavez | the envelope will still say it came from your smtp erver though |
| 10:36.05 | hchavez | pandaroo: it sounds like you need some -dev stuff i know you already say you had them... |
| 10:36.50 | pandaroo | hchavez, I have the -dev packages for the libs, do I need any other dev packages? |
| 10:37.08 | hchavez | sometimes for dependancies |
| 10:37.12 | *** join/#debian Miouge (~Miouge@ARennes-256-1-7-172.w90-31.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:37.21 | azeem_ | pandaroo: what -dev package did you install? |
| 10:37.28 | azeem_ | pandaroo: also, install build-essential |
| 10:37.37 | *** join/#debian kokomo59 (~kokomo@mars.cri-admin.ens-lyon.fr) |
| 10:38.56 | pandaroo | azeem_, libstdc++6-4.1-dev, libstdc++6-4.3-dev and libstdc++6-4.4-dev |
| 10:39.16 | pandaroo | libstdc++ itself is also installed |
| 10:39.26 | azeem_ | 11:36 < azeem_> pandaroo: also, install build-essential |
| 10:39.38 | pandaroo | azeem_, OK, getting on it |
| 10:39.51 | *** join/#debian bfremon (~ben@pas38-2-82-67-73-175.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:43.42 | pandaroo | azeem_, that seems to have solved the problem, now it complains about other missing packages but I can find them. Thank you! |
| 10:44.09 | hchavez | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:44.36 | hchavez | what was it?? |
| 10:44.39 | hchavez | :D |
| 10:44.46 | *** join/#debian dansushi (~dan@147.4.211.193) |
| 10:45.10 | azeem_ | probably a missing g++ |
| 10:45.12 | hchavez | build-essential good call |
| 10:45.14 | *** join/#debian pascal_ (~quassel@gruyere.kerlabs.com) |
| 10:45.19 | azeem_ | or libc6-dev |
| 10:45.37 | hile | or even builddep kismet |
| 10:45.56 | *** join/#debian shahri (~shahri@dslb-088-078-213-083.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 10:46.00 | hchavez | hmm i gotta hang out here more |
| 10:46.20 | *** join/#debian lucascarvalho (~lucas@189.24.58.64) |
| 10:46.36 | hile | pandaroo: apt-get build-dep kismet |
| 10:46.58 | hile | still don't know why you're building your own but maybe you have some good reason :) |
| 10:47.02 | lucascarvalho | hi, is there any easy and simple tutorial to teach how to create a .deb binary package for a given directory? |
| 10:47.07 | pandaroo | hile, wow, am I to understand that there's a way to build stuff from source with automatic dependency retrieval? |
| 10:47.49 | hile | build-dep will pull you the packages required to build existing version of some package, yeah |
| 10:48.47 | *** join/#debian e1z0 (~null@pdpc/supporter/7for7/e1z0) |
| 10:48.48 | *** join/#debian dArK_IcE (~lawl@a85-138-217-179.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 10:48.59 | pandaroo | hile, the reason is that the most recent package for kismet(that's what I'm building) is about 2 years old and many updates were added in newer versions |
| 10:49.27 | hile | yeah... I think these build deps are still mostly valid for new versions anyway |
| 10:49.49 | *** join/#debian digitalmortician (~digitalmo@77.245.31.57) |
| 10:50.28 | hile | at least makes it easier, even if you would need some new extra packages |
| 10:50.34 | *** join/#debian martin3z (~martin3z@pc1-87.gwardii.osi.pl) |
| 10:50.37 | *** join/#debian dansushi (~dan@147.4.211.193) |
| 10:51.42 | pandaroo | hile, thank you for the info, I'll keep that in mind |
| 10:51.42 | *** join/#debian Alexandro (~Alexandro@AToulouse-157-1-119-184.w86-221.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:52.08 | hile | remember you _might_ get headers for some too old version as well, so it does not work always: new kismet might require libfoo version 1.4 and this pulls 1.2 for example |
| 10:52.23 | hile | but anyway, you get closer |
| 10:52.27 | pandaroo | OK |
| 10:53.47 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 10:54.05 | icebrain | hi, is it possible to send a command to alpine from a bash script? |
| 10:54.46 | hchavez | i am more beginning to appreciate stable releases... i wonder how things will change now with the release schedule changing... |
| 10:55.18 | *** join/#debian pascal_ (~quassel@gruyere.kerlabs.com) |
| 10:55.40 | wols_ | what change? there is a decision to release "more often" after _every_ debian release. not so successful that... |
| 10:56.45 | hile | well at least it's known :) |
| 10:57.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 862] by debhelper |
| 10:57.04 | *** join/#debian jrib (~jrib@upstream/dev/jrib) |
| 10:57.15 | hchavez | wols_: i just hope that the change doesnt result in a more overall brokenness.. |
| 10:58.16 | hile | that is always possible, it's a ongoing process which sometimes gets better, sometimes worse, and then it needs to be fixed |
| 10:58.22 | hchavez | i upgraded tcl and then i couldnt use something.. stable releases are tough to achieve |
| 10:58.48 | *** join/#debian pascal_ (~quassel@gruyere.kerlabs.com) |
| 10:59.05 | *** join/#debian Apoow (~Apoow@163-162-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
| 10:59.26 | *** join/#debian pro (~pro@unaffiliated/pro) |
| 11:00.01 | pro | hi guys, i have a file that i cant delete as root, its ls -l is ?--------- ? ? ? ? ? hdr.26996 |
| 11:00.08 | *** part/#debian likevinyl (~mikeriver@190.55.43.24) |
| 11:00.13 | azeem_ | pro: run a fsck |
| 11:00.25 | pro | i cant chmod,chown, or anything that file |
| 11:00.26 | hile | pro: you have filesystem corruption, run fsck |
| 11:00.41 | pro | i cant, its a remote server, ssh |
| 11:00.55 | hile | well, ask the server owner to fsck :) |
| 11:01.19 | pro | i am the server owner, the people that the server is at dont know squat about linux |
| 11:01.38 | babilen | get over there then |
| 11:01.49 | hile | well, anyway you must somehow fsck it, no matter who runs or owns it |
| 11:01.50 | pro | its about 300km away :( |
| 11:02.29 | *** join/#debian pascal_ (~quassel@gruyere.kerlabs.com) |
| 11:02.59 | *** join/#debian acathur (~acathur@unaffiliated/acathur) |
| 11:03.41 | wols_ | remount the disk read only, fsck it (check nothing important was deleted. reboot |
| 11:03.55 | pro | yeah, thats what im busy doing now |
| 11:05.01 | ZeZu | nic using r8169 refuses to change out of 10baseT half duplex with ethtool , anyone know why this might happen ? :: Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01) |
| 11:05.01 | *** join/#debian Kottizen_ (~kottizen@alice.kottnet.net) |
| 11:05.04 | *** join/#debian pascal_ (~quassel@gruyere.kerlabs.com) |
| 11:05.10 | *** join/#debian icebrain (~icebrain@gw-e-U-EdII.nat.fct.unl.pt) |
| 11:06.10 | wols_ | a bcm5312 is not a r8169... totally different chips |
| 11:07.02 | *** join/#debian pascal_ (~quassel@gruyere.kerlabs.com) |
| 11:08.09 | *** join/#debian pascal_ (~quassel@gruyere.kerlabs.com) |
| 11:08.24 | ZeZu | hmm |
| 11:08.34 | ZeZu | interesting that it chose that driver then ? |
| 11:09.20 | ZeZu | err i think its just my bed time sorry: |
| 11:09.28 | *** join/#debian alsuren (~alsuren@2a01:348:16d:0:21d:e0ff:fe33:2549) |
| 11:09.29 | ZeZu | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:10.01 | *** join/#debian visof (~visof@41.238.234.175) |
| 11:10.57 | *** join/#debian greenmang0 (~abhishek@unaffiliated/greenmang0) |
| 11:11.30 | *** join/#debian albech (~thomas@124.157.209.220) |
| 11:11.37 | *** join/#debian visof (~visof@41.238.234.175) |
| 11:11.55 | *** join/#debian kyrix (~ashley@41.92.12.114) |
| 11:12.58 | *** join/#debian MarGarina (~orenhe@12.154.28.10) |
| 11:13.41 | *** join/#debian lkcl (~lkcl@nat66.mia.three.co.uk) |
| 11:14.09 | *** join/#debian desti (~desti@TL-224-192.fernuni-hagen.de) |
| 11:14.52 | *** part/#debian martin3z (~martin3z@pc1-87.gwardii.osi.pl) |
| 11:15.30 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@84.119.83.196) |
| 11:15.43 | pro | ok, i fixed it |
| 11:15.45 | pro | :D |
| 11:17.19 | *** join/#debian bittin_ (~quassel@c213-100-108-185.swipnet.se) |
| 11:18.35 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@secure.dreampark.se) |
| 11:19.00 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 11:19.31 | pro | wols_, that worked, thanks man |
| 11:19.38 | *** part/#debian pro (~pro@unaffiliated/pro) |
| 11:21.21 | *** join/#debian matt2 (~matt@adsl-62-167-94-198.adslplus.ch) |
| 11:21.25 | *** join/#debian bibekp (~bibek@unaffiliated/bibekp) |
| 11:22.52 | *** join/#debian rerushg (~kvirc@cpe-024-168-225-226.sc.res.rr.com) |
| 11:23.02 | *** join/#debian bfremon (~ben@pas38-2-82-67-73-175.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:24.05 | *** join/#debian kj4 (~kj4kjl@adsl-235-64-163.clt.bellsouth.net) |
| 11:25.35 | *** join/#debian ootput (~ootput@c122-106-120-88.rivrw6.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 11:25.36 | *** join/#debian ootput (~ootput@unaffiliated/ootput) |
| 11:25.53 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 11:27.06 | *** join/#debian Rybnik (~arturmont@nat51.usc.es) |
| 11:28.39 | *** join/#debian EagleWatch (~eaglewatc@2001:b30:5000:2:21c:23ff:fe96:2e25) |
| 11:30.02 | lmaowaffle | hi guys,noob question: what are main, non-free classified as? |
| 11:30.14 | lmaowaffle | not repos in their own right, right? |
| 11:31.37 | liable | !non-free |
| 11:31.38 | dpkg | non-free is, like, a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed on your system, ask me about <vrms>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 11:32.36 | krion | i fear to dist-upgrade a mysql/drdb/heartbeat |
| 11:32.48 | ootput | lmaowaffle: package categories, I'd say |
| 11:32.51 | krion | i don't know how would mysql and heartbeat manage the upgrade... |
| 11:32.56 | ootput | or 'component' |
| 11:32.59 | krion | anyone with experience in it ? |
| 11:33.37 | *** join/#debian Imran-UK (~imran@78-86-182-205.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 11:34.34 | *** join/#debian bonehead (~chris@mail.tlcind.com) |
| 11:35.36 | *** join/#debian wr| (~wr@cl-3263.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) |
| 11:36.10 | babilen | krion: That depends on the software that uses the DB. Are you upgrading from stable to testing? |
| 11:36.15 | *** join/#debian Desiac (~desiac@220-245-18-174.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 11:37.00 | babilen | krion: And you might want to create backups |
| 11:37.03 | *** join/#debian AlHafoudh (~alhafoudh@77.93.192.244) |
| 11:37.10 | *** join/#debian AlHafoudh (~alhafoudh@77.93.192.244) |
| 11:37.12 | *** join/#debian elky (~melissa@ubuntu/member/pdpc.professional.elkbuntu) |
| 11:37.48 | *** join/#debian njan (~james@freenode/staff/njan) |
| 11:38.55 | *** join/#debian LinkRage (~linkrage@92.247.202.231) |
| 11:39.06 | *** join/#debian ruyo (~psantos@195.23.253.223) |
| 11:40.46 | krion | babilen: i'm upgrading from etch to lenny (yes i'm late) |
| 11:41.34 | *** join/#debian pascal_ (~quassel@gruyere.kerlabs.com) |
| 11:41.51 | *** join/#debian cornair3 (~Christian@pD9533EB9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:42.41 | *** join/#debian badcloud (~raanan@ti400720a342-0297.bb.online.no) |
| 11:42.43 | *** join/#debian xayon (~xayon@14.Red-88-26-177.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:44.25 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 11:44.41 | *** join/#debian ga_bash (~gaurav@210.18.180.131) |
| 11:45.20 | *** join/#debian thorben (~t@omhp-uva-29-145.wireless.uva.nl) |
| 11:46.24 | lmaowaffle | curiously, when (in years) would squeeze become stable? |
| 11:46.28 | *** join/#debian j4K0b (~j4k0bk@93.160.119.14) |
| 11:46.41 | ootput | 0-2 |
| 11:47.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 870] by debhelper |
| 11:47.06 | lmaowaffle | really? |
| 11:47.11 | *** join/#debian weber (locust@219-70-213-210.cable.dynamic.giga.net.tw) |
| 11:47.24 | *** join/#debian sepult` (~user@xdsl-87-78-173-237.netcologne.de) |
| 11:47.52 | Desiac | hi all, im running a s/ware raid-5 array. array is not mounting, /var/log/messages is reporting problems with 2 of the 4 disks. i've tested each disk and they are not reporting any error's. fsck complains about a bad superblock (ive tried specifing the location of the backup, still no go) think its related to the actual array. can anyone suggest any tools / methods for me to try and recover? thnx |
| 11:48.33 | babilen | krion: I doubt that the DB itself has big problem, but it might be that some applications you run do not support lenny's version of MySQL. If you fear data corruption you might want to dump the DBs now |
| 11:49.04 | sep | Desiac, cat /proc/mdstat tell you the status of your raid |
| 11:49.05 | babilen | krion: Are you using any proprietary/legacy software that needs a specific version of MySQL? |
| 11:49.49 | et | dpkg: tell lmaowaffle about when will squeeze release |
| 11:50.27 | rvsjoen | does /etc/debian_version ever get upgraded ? |
| 11:50.31 | *** join/#debian r3x (~r3x@ip-87-86-119-34.easynet.co.uk) |
| 11:50.40 | Desiac | sep: just give me inactive as the staus, ive tried using " smartctl -t long /dev/md2" but it complains about the type i've used -d ata, but doesnt like that either |
| 11:51.00 | et | rvsjoen: for new debian versions, it does? |
| 11:51.06 | rvsjoen | I mean, both on my testing and on my sid/unstable box, /etc/debian_version says 'squeeze/sid' |
| 11:51.51 | rvsjoen | and as squeeze is testing, I find it a bit strange that there is not a clear separation there |
| 11:52.31 | *** join/#debian lts_ghost (~ghost@93.23.84.47) |
| 11:52.54 | babilen | rvsjoen: That would basically mean that testing ships a different version than the one that migrated from unstable |
| 11:53.08 | babilen | rvsjoen: of base-files |
| 11:53.09 | lts_ghost | hello |
| 11:54.10 | wols_ | Desiac: smartctl operates on disks, not on raid arrays |
| 11:54.16 | wols_ | Desiac: use /dev/sda |
| 11:55.44 | Desiac | wols_: shouldn't i be scaning at the raid level, not the individual disk? do u think it could possibly work if i ran it against each disk? |
| 11:56.19 | wols_ | what did I just type? text comprehension is really really low today |
| 11:56.20 | *** join/#debian DanDare (~DanDare@187.59.208.5) |
| 11:56.23 | *** join/#debian grandmoun (~piliman@encyclo014701-1-4.clients.easynet.fr) |
| 11:56.57 | lts_ghost | i have some problem with my hp 5652 : usblp0: removed. the job start but no printing |
| 11:57.16 | Desiac | wols_: was just asking the question, trying to comprehend how it will work. i dont like blindly doing things, thnx anyway |
| 11:57.18 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@ghenry.plus.com) |
| 11:57.19 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/ghenry) |
| 11:57.25 | lts_ghost | cups processing job, but printer not work |
| 11:57.31 | krion | babilen: i fear the mysql check integrity and the heartbeat behaviour while mysql is stopped for upgrading (as it's a two nodes failover heartbeat) |
| 11:58.22 | babilen | krion: Can't you disable the error handling for the upgrade? |
| 11:59.01 | lts_ghost | cups say : "/usr/lib/cups/backend/hp failed" after a few time to processing |
| 11:59.10 | *** join/#debian xomg (~none@host86-150-141-136.range86-150.btcentralplus.com) |
| 11:59.29 | *** join/#debian shogunx (~shogunx@2001:4978:106:1:211:d8ff:fe4e:bacc) |
| 12:00.31 | *** join/#debian daedaluz (~daedaluz@dyn82-77.yok.fi) |
| 12:00.59 | *** join/#debian JyZyXEL (~lol@a88-113-58-89.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 12:01.55 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@secure.dreampark.se) |
| 12:02.33 | *** join/#debian allisterb (~allisterb@cuscon124899.tstt.net.tt) |
| 12:02.55 | *** join/#debian kjs (~kjs@fedora/kjs) |
| 12:02.57 | *** join/#debian diabel (~ruut@xdsl-1228.zgora.dialog.net.pl) |
| 12:03.51 | *** join/#debian afurlan (~afurlan@scorpion.mps.com.br) |
| 12:05.34 | *** join/#debian G_O_D (~marco@host38.190-139-47.telecom.net.ar) |
| 12:05.38 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 12:07.19 | *** join/#debian iarwain (~iarwain@ec2-79-125-6-47.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) |
| 12:08.28 | *** join/#debian digitalmortici-1 (~digitalmo@77.245.31.55) |
| 12:08.39 | rvsjoen | babilen: ok |
| 12:08.41 | *** join/#debian aucabarcas (~inteltame@190.253.180.26) |
| 12:09.26 | iarwain | Hi. I am looking for documentation about debian packaging and specifically the "debian/links" file. However I have not found information about this specific file. Can anyone help me with some link that explains this? |
| 12:09.40 | *** join/#debian lom (~lom@188-22-174-70.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 12:10.55 | *** join/#debian Kasreyn (~i@unaffiliated/inquisitor) |
| 12:11.08 | themill | iarwain: man dh_link (from the debhelper package) |
| 12:11.30 | Kasreyn | anyone good with iptables? problem: masqueraded internal LAN (192.168.0.*). would it be possible to forward the same port to many? |
| 12:11.46 | *** join/#debian wthtt (~wthtt@dyn-20-7.e-sky.ru) |
| 12:11.47 | iarwain | themill: thank you. |
| 12:11.51 | *** join/#debian ndrs__ (~andres@84-203-45-145.mysmart.ie) |
| 12:12.33 | *** join/#debian charzero (~magrat@cpe-67-240-131-62.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 12:12.37 | *** join/#debian ruyo (~psantos@195.23.253.223) |
| 12:14.22 | *** join/#debian speme (~speme@120.36.119.229) |
| 12:15.17 | *** join/#debian tobias (~tobias@12.154.28.10) |
| 12:15.22 | *** join/#debian tuliohm (~tulio@unaffiliated/tuliohm) |
| 12:16.25 | *** join/#debian Slayerduck (~ruudvdbur@veldsink.xs4all.nl) |
| 12:16.25 | *** join/#debian Slayerduck (~ruudvdbur@unaffiliated/slayerduck) |
| 12:17.36 | *** join/#debian gorthaug (~gorthaug@131.30.218.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 12:17.36 | *** join/#debian wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-63-58.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 12:17.38 | gorthaug | hi |
| 12:17.43 | *** join/#debian werdan7 (~w7@freenode/staff/wikimedia.werdan7) |
| 12:18.25 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 12:18.49 | gorthaug | i've a problem with the repository, with all that i try, apt-get can't get the "updates" packages |
| 12:19.23 | themill | gorthaug: precisely what command are you giving? |
| 12:19.54 | *** join/#debian brotakku (~brotakku@dslc-082-082-086-182.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 12:19.56 | *** join/#debian TiMiDo (~deb@2001:0:53aa:64c:384b:5499:bef7:ecc4) |
| 12:20.04 | *** join/#debian shogunx (~shogunx@2001:4978:106:1:211:d8ff:fe4e:bacc) |
| 12:20.43 | charzero | Is bug #559755 (Disable cryptoloop) why there is no loop-aes-modules-2.6.32-trunk-686 package? |
| 12:21.17 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@unaffiliated/salvin) |
| 12:21.43 | *** join/#debian emachado (~edjunior@fsf/member/emachado) |
| 12:21.53 | gorthaug | themill, hi, with an apt-get update i get this http://pastebin.com/jfVExX7j |
| 12:23.44 | gorthaug | with all servers |
| 12:23.48 | *** join/#debian malkkis (~malkkis@dsl-kpobrasgw1-fec3fa00-208.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 12:24.11 | themill | gorthaug: your sources.list entry for "lenny/updates" is incorrect. It should be security.debian.org. /msg dpkg security. |
| 12:24.29 | themill | gorthaug: Feel free to pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list after having altered it to get someone to have a look over it |
| 12:24.30 | babilen | gorthaug: And, what is 'vollstreckernet.de' ? |
| 12:25.03 | gorthaug | babilen, it's for amule 2.2.6 |
| 12:25.08 | wols_ | gorthaug: trying to get non-free sources is very funny |
| 12:25.23 | *** join/#debian Sai-- (~sia@62.44.134.32) |
| 12:25.30 | babilen | gorthaug: The entry for that one is wrong too. Paste your sources.list please :) |
| 12:25.37 | *** join/#debian takuan (~takuan@d54C0110F.access.telenet.be) |
| 12:25.52 | takuan | has anybody run into this? |
| 12:26.06 | gorthaug | wols_, yes... but my sources.list are autogenerated by "software sources" (Gnome) |
| 12:26.12 | babilen | takuan: huh? |
| 12:26.13 | takuan | i try to upgrade fontconfig-config and it gives me this: |
| 12:26.15 | takuan | subprocess installed post-installation script killed by signal (Segmentation fault) |
| 12:26.35 | *** join/#debian teago (~tiago@galileo.dq.ufscar.br) |
| 12:27.01 | themill | wols_: non-free doesn't mean source-less |
| 12:27.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 882] by debhelper |
| 12:27.40 | *** join/#debian jareth_ (~X@bak.project-treadstone.nl) |
| 12:28.15 | gorthaug | my source.list http://pastebin.com/pMpkZyga |
| 12:28.16 | babilen | takuan: paste the complete output to a pastebin please. Which version of debian are you running? |
| 12:28.25 | takuan | removing and reinstalling that package would have to reinstall and download all |
| 12:28.31 | takuan | amd64 |
| 12:28.43 | takuan | unstable |
| 12:29.24 | wols_ | what would reinstalling do except segfault as well? |
| 12:30.04 | babilen | takuan: Have you checked the bts (/msg dpkg bts)? Provide more information, debug the problem and report a bug. |
| 12:30.21 | *** join/#debian svenfark (~tom@puenktchen.ani.univie.ac.at) |
| 12:30.52 | takuan | babilen: yes i checked and found nothing |
| 12:31.04 | *** join/#debian cornair2 (~Christian@pD9533EB9.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:31.27 | takuan | babilen: this is the report i get: |
| 12:31.29 | takuan | http://pastebin.com/PLpEY1AS |
| 12:31.35 | takuan | error i mean |
| 12:31.44 | takuan | how can I debug a package problem? |
| 12:31.50 | takuan | is that described somewhere? |
| 12:32.18 | *** join/#debian ootput (~ootput@c122-106-120-88.rivrw6.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 12:32.18 | *** join/#debian ootput (~ootput@unaffiliated/ootput) |
| 12:32.25 | wols_ | in this case: check the postinst script of the segfaulting package |
| 12:33.38 | takuan | wols_: how can I get at those scripts? |
| 12:33.44 | wols_ | with an editor |
| 12:33.49 | takuan | ah |
| 12:33.50 | takuan | second |
| 12:34.01 | *** join/#debian kokkafasas (~myself@host208-160-dynamic.51-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 12:34.18 | takuan | how do you unpack a deb? |
| 12:34.46 | wols_ | why do you want to? (dpkg --help tells you however) |
| 12:34.57 | wols_ | hint: editing the file in the deb package won't help you |
| 12:35.01 | takuan | found it |
| 12:35.13 | gorthaug | oks... my problem it's downloading the source code packages information from the repositorys... i don't need to download the souce code, so... i quit it form sources.list... problem resolved |
| 12:35.29 | gorthaug | for now |
| 12:35.31 | wols_ | gorthaug: the problem is you trying to download from non existing repos |
| 12:35.36 | babilen | you could add 'set -x' in the second line of that script, for example. The postinst files are at /var/lib/dpkg/... |
| 12:35.56 | takuan | wols_: how do I get more information from apt-get so I know where in the script it crashes? |
| 12:36.31 | babilen | takuan: 'set -x' |
| 12:36.46 | wols_ | babilen: good luck |
| 12:37.00 | babilen | :) |
| 12:37.32 | *** join/#debian sanjoyd (~sanjoy@203.110.243.22) |
| 12:39.02 | *** join/#debian tobias (~tobias@12.154.28.10) |
| 12:39.27 | takuan | it seems that the line . /usr/share/debconf/confmodule |
| 12:39.30 | takuan | is the problem |
| 12:40.53 | takuan | why would that line dump a core file? |
| 12:41.15 | takuan | does this have something to do with /me using zsh? |
| 12:42.46 | themill | takuan: what does "readlink -f /bin/sh" say? |
| 12:47.35 | takuan | /bin/bash |
| 12:47.35 | wols_ | I hope the zsh deb doesn't do anything with that |
| 12:47.38 | takuan | if i run . /usr/share/debconf/confmodule in a zsh shell it exits |
| 12:47.38 | takuan | in a bash shell it goes 100% cpu |
| 12:47.39 | *** join/#debian Third3ye (~Third3ye@62.113.158.79) |
| 12:47.40 | *** join/#debian Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-420457.home.otenet.gr) |
| 12:47.40 | *** join/#debian ruoso (~ruoso@187.79.17.88) |
| 12:48.00 | *** join/#debian pytrollic (~system@203.47.251.94) |
| 12:48.14 | pytrollic | wtf is wrong with you people? http://mozilla.debian.net/logos/ |
| 12:48.53 | streuner__ | !iceweasel |
| 12:48.53 | dpkg | Iceweasel is a DFSG-free fork of Firefox, which replaces it in Debian as of Etch. It is not GNU's Firefox fork (now known as <IceCat>). Ask me about <why iceweasel> and <iceweasel user-agent>. Use gnome-default-applications-properties to change settings such as the mail reader. http://wiki.debian.org/Iceweasel |
| 12:48.58 | themill | dpkg: tell pytrollic about why iceweasel |
| 12:49.17 | themill | pytrollic: you may or may not find other people in #debian-offtopic interested in discussing this further with you. |
| 12:49.18 | pytrollic | the logos... |
| 12:49.53 | pytrollic | that iceape logo especially.. really, wtf? |
| 12:51.07 | sep | pytrollic, patches welcome |
| 12:51.11 | *** join/#debian visof (~visof@41.238.234.175) |
| 12:51.20 | takuan | I guess it was something which was calling itself in a loop |
| 12:51.34 | takuan | without stopping |
| 12:52.01 | krion | babilen: i think i'll try it that way |
| 12:52.03 | pytrollic | sep: say, how about just the ape and the weasel, together, y'know? |
| 12:52.07 | takuan | add an exit statement temporarily but that's a dirty trick I suppose |
| 12:52.19 | pytrollic | sep: without the sex toys |
| 12:54.01 | *** join/#debian Texou (~Texou@pat35-5-78-226-56-130.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:54.02 | *** join/#debian Texou (~Texou@unaffiliated/texou) |
| 12:55.22 | *** join/#debian bittin (~quassel@c213-100-108-185.swipnet.se) |
| 12:56.44 | *** join/#debian bittin (~quassel@c213-100-108-185.swipnet.se) |
| 12:57.58 | *** join/#debian buntfalke (~nobody@unaffiliated/buntfalke) |
| 12:59.26 | *** join/#debian schatan (~schatan@srvlxr204.hs-merseburg.de) |
| 12:59.50 | *** join/#debian peutetre (~peutetre@80.10.46.66) |
| 13:00.07 | *** part/#debian pytrollic (~system@203.47.251.94) |
| 13:02.12 | *** join/#debian ghostman (~forth@HSI-KBW-078-043-171-029.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 13:02.15 | *** join/#debian sena-- (~random@dslb-088-077-237-227.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 13:03.11 | *** join/#debian renskap (Daz_@CPE-60-224-32-55.tnyt1.lon.bigpond.net.au) |
| 13:04.05 | renskap | need help man |
| 13:04.10 | renskap | http://tinyurl.com/yko2qsg |
| 13:06.42 | *** join/#debian DivineEntity (~DivineEnt@d24-36-161-80.home1.cgocable.net) |
| 13:06.55 | *** join/#debian jk (~jochem@169-107.citynet.ftth.internl.net) |
| 13:10.20 | *** join/#debian edo1493 (~edo1493@fsf/member/edo1493) |
| 13:10.52 | edo1493 | mm...yesterady I have installed debian...where can I find a .deb package of HURD ?? |
| 13:13.48 | ketsa | is this even possible ? install linux and then hurd as a package ? |
| 13:14.42 | *** join/#debian Meise (~MieMaMeis@2001:6f8:128e:3:21f:16ff:fe0e:32b) |
| 13:14.47 | *** join/#debian oblu (~oblu@ip-89-103-168-220.karneval.cz) |
| 13:17.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 876] by debhelper |
| 13:17.42 | *** join/#debian Patrickkhk87 (~Patrick@5acf82ef.bb.sky.com) |
| 13:17.49 | *** join/#debian Martinp23 (martinp23@freenode/staff/wikimedia.martinp23) |
| 13:18.00 | *** join/#debian Zylvain (~Zylvain@AToulouse-257-1-75-235.w90-5.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 13:18.20 | *** join/#debian sepult (~user@xdsl-87-78-173-237.netcologne.de) |
| 13:18.53 | jelly | edo1493: hurd is a separate architecture of Debian. You could run it in a virtual machine, or install it as dual boot or instead of your current Debian. |
| 13:19.15 | jelly | edo1493: any way, it's an OS, not a package. |
| 13:19.40 | jelly | !tell edo1493 about hurd |
| 13:19.50 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@88.103.15.70) |
| 13:20.00 | edo1493 | jelly, Ok I thought that I could install hurd how I install linux kernel |
| 13:20.20 | edo1493 | Jelly, is there a HOW TO ? |
| 13:20.31 | edo1493 | ok thanks |
| 13:20.42 | *** join/#debian v4nelle (~van@79.103.136.171.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 13:20.56 | *** join/#debian DanDare (~DanDare@189.59.161.159) |
| 13:21.37 | *** join/#debian manicman (~manicman@unaffiliated/manicman) |
| 13:21.45 | *** join/#debian maif (~user@CPE00121713f9c5-CM001225dbb2fc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 13:24.25 | *** join/#debian ramo102 (~ramo102@voip.gfdsa.org) |
| 13:24.53 | kokomo59 | hello everybody, I have read on some forums that Xen could be not supported anymore in the future releases of Debian. Do you have more information about this ? Do we have to start looking for other solutions ? Thanks |
| 13:25.12 | *** part/#debian iarwain (~iarwain@ec2-79-125-6-47.eu-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) |
| 13:25.28 | *** join/#debian litlebuda (~litlebuda@62.48.251.134) |
| 13:25.46 | *** join/#debian oblu (~oblu@ip-89-103-168-220.karneval.cz) |
| 13:27.27 | *** join/#debian allisterb_ (~allisterb@cuscon127806.tstt.net.tt) |
| 13:27.34 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@ghenry.plus.com) |
| 13:27.34 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/ghenry) |
| 13:28.15 | *** join/#debian Slayerduck (~ruudvdbur@veldsink.xs4all.nl) |
| 13:28.15 | *** join/#debian Slayerduck (~ruudvdbur@unaffiliated/slayerduck) |
| 13:29.33 | *** join/#debian icebrain (~icebrain@gw-e-U-EdVII.nat.fct.unl.pt) |
| 13:30.04 | *** join/#debian visof (~visof@41.238.234.175) |
| 13:30.30 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@c-4f667ac4-74736162.cust.telenor.se) |
| 13:30.46 | *** join/#debian oblu_ (~oblu@ip-89-103-168-220.karneval.cz) |
| 13:31.03 | *** join/#debian jpinx-eeepc (~johnp@200.121.10.87) |
| 13:32.27 | *** join/#debian allisterb (~allisterb@cuscon127806.tstt.net.tt) |
| 13:35.35 | *** join/#debian ruoso (~ruoso@187.79.94.4) |
| 13:37.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 885] by debhelper |
| 13:37.24 | *** join/#debian LinkRage (~linkrage@92.247.202.231) |
| 13:38.48 | *** join/#debian djojo (~Jof@213.30.154.210) |
| 13:38.50 | MrWax | seems like I locked myself out from mysql, i cannot login anymore.. i am on debian and am root.. what can i do best? i don't need the contents of mysql anymore and want to reinstall it |
| 13:38.51 | *** join/#debian golumn123 (~X@190.6.194.153) |
| 13:39.32 | golumn123 | Hi guys, I accidentally did a rm -rf * on /, and the bin folder is now gone. Is there a way to recover it or should I install the system back |
| 13:39.50 | *** join/#debian brodul_ (~brodul@BSN-143-116-111.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) |
| 13:39.55 | *** part/#debian djojo (~Jof@213.30.154.210) |
| 13:40.40 | NiLon | golumn123 easiest is to reinstall |
| 13:40.56 | NiLon | MrWax #mysql |
| 13:41.38 | wols_ | MrWax: purge it |
| 13:41.46 | NiLon | short answer: stop mysql, add skip-grant-tables to mysql confs, start mysql, add new password for root, stop mysql, remove conf modification and start mysql again |
| 13:42.31 | *** join/#debian n0mad (~Elive_use@87-239-82-225.ip.kis.lt) |
| 13:42.37 | *** join/#debian Kernspalter (~al_caspam@p54A37EF2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:42.39 | golumn123 | NiLon, is there a solution without reinstalling |
| 13:43.22 | NiLon | MrWax more described here http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/server-options.html#option_mysqld_skip-grant-tables |
| 13:43.31 | NiLon | golumn123 data recovery |
| 13:43.52 | NiLon | but it might be partial, if it was only bin, reinstall might be easiest |
| 13:45.28 | *** join/#debian allisterb (~allisterb@cuscon123591.tstt.net.tt) |
| 13:46.43 | *** join/#debian bittin (~quassel@c213-100-108-185.swipnet.se) |
| 13:46.58 | *** join/#debian raz0 (~raz0@x1-6-00-18-4d-e8-79-94.k687.webspeed.dk) |
| 13:48.30 | MrWax | NiLon and wols_ thanks! |
| 13:48.56 | *** join/#debian Slayerduck (~ruudvdbur@veldsink.xs4all.nl) |
| 13:48.56 | *** join/#debian Slayerduck (~ruudvdbur@unaffiliated/slayerduck) |
| 13:49.13 | MrWax | NiLon: Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld failed! |
| 13:51.22 | *** join/#debian amsterdam (~nixda@port-92-198-42-37.static.qsc.de) |
| 13:52.06 | *** join/#debian klync (~klync@69-196-165-109.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 13:52.53 | *** join/#debian matt_foo (~matt_foo@p54B3EF26.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:54.48 | MrWax | wols_: any idea? |
| 13:55.15 | *** join/#debian adam8157 (~adam@218.89.42.236) |
| 13:55.21 | *** join/#debian craigevil (~thouartgo@adsl-76-249-16-161.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 13:55.22 | *** join/#debian xlotlu (~john@82.76.172.147) |
| 13:55.55 | Kernspalter | http://www.AWSurveys.com/HomeMain.cfm?RefID=al_caspam --> EARN MONEY FOR FREE USENET-ACCOUNTS AND RAPIDSHARE-ACCOUNTS AND PAYPAL!!! |
| 13:55.56 | Kernspalter | http://www.AWSurveys.com/HomeMain.cfm?RefID=al_caspam --> EARN MONEY FOR FREE USENET-ACCOUNTS AND RAPIDSHARE-ACCOUNTS AND PAYPAL!!! |
| 13:56.42 | *** mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ |
| 13:56.46 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@84.163.126.242] by themill |
| 13:56.48 | *** kick/#debian [Kernspalter!~stuart@unaffiliated/themill] by themill (You should know better) |
| 13:56.51 | *** mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill |
| 13:59.05 | NiLon | MrWax issue #mysql |
| 13:59.37 | themill | !I forgot mysql root password |
| 13:59.37 | dpkg | If you've forgotten the mysql root password, /etc/init.d/mysql stop; mysqld --skip-grant-tables; mysql -u root; use mysql; UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('mynewpassword') WHERE User='root'; FLUSH PRIVILEGES; C-d; stop mysqld; /etc/init.d/mysql start, or http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html, or <mysql initial password> |
| 14:00.38 | *** join/#debian amol112 (~amol111@203.129.255.188) |
| 14:01.04 | *** join/#debian smeea (~smeea@89.163.26.137) |
| 14:01.07 | *** join/#debian ChildOfGod (~debayan@59.164.102.122) |
| 14:01.32 | *** join/#debian ezraw (~chatzilla@static-68-162-94-210.phil.east.verizon.net) |
| 14:02.26 | *** join/#debian kevinkal (~chatzilla@2002:8076:66d2:1::1) |
| 14:02.29 | *** join/#debian Meise (~MieMaMeis@port-92-204-103-90.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 14:02.31 | *** join/#debian russian_ulysses_ (~vic@93.100.135.121) |
| 14:02.41 | *** join/#debian Zylvain (~Zylvain@AToulouse-257-1-75-235.w90-5.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:02.46 | MrWax | NiLon: all password fields are empty |
| 14:03.02 | NiLon | MrWax then.. issue #mysql |
| 14:04.09 | *** join/#debian eledesmar (~eledesmar@190.166.102.40) |
| 14:04.15 | *** join/#debian tempeldirne (~L@frnk-590c8eae.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 14:04.53 | *** join/#debian allisterb (~allisterb@cuscon123826.tstt.net.tt) |
| 14:05.43 | *** join/#debian mobidev (~mobidev@94.127.205.30) |
| 14:06.49 | *** mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ |
| 14:06.51 | *** mode/#debian [-b *!*@84.163.126.242] by themill |
| 14:06.55 | *** mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill |
| 14:06.58 | *** join/#debian DDave (~DDave@unaffiliated/ddave) |
| 14:07.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 891] by debhelper |
| 14:07.07 | the-dude | MrWax: mysql --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf and set a new password |
| 14:09.31 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-52-188.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 14:09.31 | *** join/#debian p3rror (~Ali@anonymous-196-206-90-60.broker.freenet6.net) |
| 14:10.42 | *** join/#debian visof (~visof@41.238.234.175) |
| 14:12.49 | *** join/#debian wthtt (~wthtt@dyn-17-194.e-sky.ru) |
| 14:15.46 | *** join/#debian tbsaunde (~tbsaunde@TBSAUNDE-FILES.RES.CMU.EDU) |
| 14:18.25 | *** join/#debian EagleScreen (~rafael@89.141.100.2.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 14:18.50 | *** join/#debian abrotman (~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman) |
| 14:19.04 | *** join/#debian Titan8990 (~jordan@unaffiliated/titan8990) |
| 14:19.16 | abrotman | wins! |
| 14:19.31 | *** join/#debian cahoot (~radix@pdpc/supporter/active/cahoot) |
| 14:19.35 | *** join/#debian aheron (~aheron@79.103.240.6.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 14:19.48 | Titan8990 | !congratulations abrotman |
| 14:19.50 | *** join/#debian brutus (~brutus@203.199.213.3) |
| 14:20.05 | zinx | abrotman: congratulations! here's your prize! Ć¢ĀĀ |
| 14:20.17 | Titan8990 | bah, i will never remember all those dpkg commands |
| 14:20.17 | abrotman | !prise zinx |
| 14:20.17 | dpkg | forcibly removes zinx from zinx's keyboard |
| 14:20.19 | *** join/#debian rerushg (~kvirc@cpe-024-168-225-226.sc.res.rr.com) |
| 14:20.41 | zinx | abrotman: here in the US, we know how to use cool letters like 'z' |
| 14:20.56 | *** join/#debian cockroach (~stefan@80-218-4-247.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 14:21.38 | abrotman | like .. zinx? |
| 14:21.49 | zinx | abrotman: you know it |
| 14:22.20 | abrotman | zinx: i'm in the US .. the bot factoids for prize/prise are different |
| 14:22.43 | zinx | abrotman: >_< |
| 14:23.03 | *** join/#debian Slayerduck (~ruudvdbur@unaffiliated/slayerduck) |
| 14:23.05 | abrotman | didn't make them .. just knows them |
| 14:23.26 | zinx | !win abrotman |
| 14:23.27 | dpkg | Congratulations, abrotman! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 14:24.36 | MrWax | thanks the-dude |
| 14:24.49 | MrWax | does anyone know if it's possible to convert a VMware image to a Virtualbox image? |
| 14:24.53 | *** join/#debian avoine (~avoine@dsl.speedline207.41.electronicbox.net) |
| 14:25.36 | zinx | MrWax: you could boot something w/ the VMware image mounted, and do a dd to a raw file |
| 14:25.46 | abrotman | MrWax: google has a few hits |
| 14:27.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 899] by debhelper |
| 14:27.35 | *** join/#debian TomyLobo (~foo@port-212-202-171-135.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 14:28.54 | TomyLobo | hi |
| 14:29.43 | *** join/#debian YuK_Ota (~yuk_ota@p1107-ipbf01otsu.shiga.ocn.ne.jp) |
| 14:30.23 | *** join/#debian iKs (~iks@128.220.159.20) |
| 14:30.29 | TomyLobo | in squeeze, the latest network-manager breaks the latest network-manager-kde, but the package system is unaware of that. is there any way to fix that or will i just have to wait for an update to the network-manager-kde package before i can install updates normally again? |
| 14:30.51 | Titan8990 | TomyLobo: don't forget to file a bug report if its not filed already |
| 14:31.00 | TomyLobo | i guess it is |
| 14:31.15 | Titan8990 | TomyLobo: well, often there are workarounds to be found in the bug reports |
| 14:31.21 | TomyLobo | ah good idea |
| 14:32.36 | *** join/#debian esteeven (~esteeven@cpc2-hawk2-0-0-cust980.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 14:33.27 | abrotman | TomyLobo: it has been filed .. |
| 14:33.32 | *** join/#debian fender0107401 (~fender010@219.243.32.29) |
| 14:33.46 | TomyLobo | currently i just said "forbid version" |
| 14:34.02 | TomyLobo | but that still means i'll have to be careful about new network-manager versions |
| 14:34.30 | *** join/#debian thrashold (~europan@3mhz.net) |
| 14:35.14 | *** part/#debian Kasreyn (~i@unaffiliated/inquisitor) |
| 14:35.46 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~project25@86.51.114.108) |
| 14:35.51 | wols_ | you run squeeze. you have to be careful about each and all new package |
| 14:36.47 | themill | ,versions network-manager-kde |
| 14:36.48 | judd | network-manager-kde -- etch: 1:0.1-2; lenny: 1:0.2.2-2; sid: 1:0.9~svn1088283-1 |
| 14:37.11 | themill | I believe that the version in sid fixes that, but don't quote me... (try #debian-kde on oftc) |
| 14:37.22 | *** join/#debian kaziem (~devnull@159.23.106.243) |
| 14:37.28 | *** part/#debian kokkafasas (~myself@host208-160-dynamic.51-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 14:37.38 | TomyLobo | wols_ yeah i do look at changelogs for the more important packages, but iirc it wasn't mentioned |
| 14:37.55 | *** join/#debian joltcan (jolt@0x2a.se) |
| 14:38.49 | wols_ | TomyLobo: apt-listbugs |
| 14:39.22 | *** join/#debian TheOnly (~theonly@cpat002.wlan.net.ed.ac.uk) |
| 14:39.27 | TomyLobo | Bump Breaks for network-manager-kde to (<< 1:0.9~~). The KDE3 version no longer works correctly with this version of network-manager. |
| 14:39.40 | TomyLobo | that's in the 0.7.999-3 version |
| 14:39.46 | TomyLobo | however, squeeze started with -2 |
| 14:40.18 | *** join/#debian ashledombos (~quassel@mandriva/forum/ashledombos) |
| 14:41.13 | *** join/#debian HarryS (H@ipv6.harryy.us) |
| 14:41.50 | *** join/#debian Delf (~Delf@c-83-233-83-132.cust.bredband2.com) |
| 14:41.54 | *** join/#debian karl (~karl@213.47.43.12) |
| 14:41.57 | *** join/#debian Delf (~Delf@unaffiliated/delf) |
| 14:43.08 | *** join/#debian jthomas_sb (~jthomas_s@nat.sierrabravo.net) |
| 14:43.12 | karl | hi ! i frequently would like to install debian on a spare hdd inside a running debian system. i know debootstrap, but is there no easier way like starting d-i in a shell ? |
| 14:44.03 | *** join/#debian Plouj (~Plouj@76-10-172-248.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 14:44.36 | Plouj | Hi. What's the difference between the "The following extra packages will be installed:" list and the "The following NEW packages will be installed:" list? |
| 14:44.55 | *** join/#debian franco (~francoval@host160.190-224-61.telecom.net.ar) |
| 14:44.56 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/ghenry) |
| 14:45.10 | franco | hi. I need to know if there are any software similar to 'Team Viewer' to ubuntu |
| 14:45.18 | abrotman | franco: ask #ubuntu |
| 14:45.38 | abrotman | Plouj: use http://paste.debian.net/ put it in there so we have a better idea of what you're talking about |
| 14:46.06 | *** join/#debian brodul (~brodul@BSN-143-116-111.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) |
| 14:46.22 | karl | franco: use x11vnc it gives acces to remote desktop |
| 14:46.26 | karl | franco: and ssh |
| 14:46.35 | Plouj | abrotman: I'm talking about apt-get install <package> output. Here is an example: |
| 14:46.37 | Plouj | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html |
| 14:47.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 906] by debhelper |
| 14:47.08 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~project25@86.51.114.108) |
| 14:47.45 | abrotman | karl: please go to #ubuntu if you want to help him |
| 14:48.12 | abrotman | Plouj: the NEW are all of the packages .. the 'extra' are the ones being installed to satisfy the deps of the one you explicitly installed |
| 14:48.16 | karl | @abrotman: his question was not ubuntu specific |
| 14:48.36 | karl | teamviewer is actually a windows program |
| 14:48.50 | abrotman | this channel is for Debian support |
| 14:49.13 | karl | well, now he can use x11vnc on debian :) |
| 14:49.36 | abrotman | except .. he won't .. |
| 14:49.45 | *** join/#debian debiansid (~siddhesh@triband-mum-120.61.3.194.mtnl.net.in) |
| 14:49.48 | *** join/#debian Qew (~qew@unaffiliated/qew) |
| 14:49.49 | abrotman | and now he thinks it's okay to come here for all his support .. thanks |
| 14:50.14 | *** part/#debian Plouj (~Plouj@76-10-172-248.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 14:50.21 | karl | ah well, i used to use ubuntu, but now i am back to mother debian :) |
| 14:50.48 | karl | and there is a lot of debian support on the ubuntu forums and vice-versa |
| 14:50.50 | *** join/#debian nse (~leo@187.113.96.119) |
| 14:50.58 | tbsaunde | karl: for the install would handing the hdd to kvm and then run the dd-i in the work? |
| 14:52.05 | karl | yes, i thought about usind a virtualbox and stuff, but its still very cumbersome |
| 14:52.05 | abrotman | what's wrong with using debootstrap ? |
| 14:52.05 | Titan8990 | karl: I don't know where you have been at, but I have not seen any ubuntu support being carried on in debian communities |
| 14:52.06 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@secure.dreampark.se) |
| 14:52.06 | *** join/#debian swygue (~rheron@69.64.209.66) |
| 14:52.21 | karl | i prefer the comfort of d-i, afaik debootstrap only installs a basic system right ? |
| 14:52.39 | *** join/#debian dschoepe (~dschoepe@unaffiliated/dschoepe) |
| 14:52.40 | craigevil | Titan8990: not in #debian, but on forums.debian.net they usually get some help |
| 14:52.55 | karl | i just think it should be somehow possible to start the d-i in a console and get it to install to a specific hdd |
| 14:53.01 | karl | i am not sure why that is not possible |
| 14:53.24 | karl | i dont see any principal problems |
| 14:53.35 | *** join/#debian Da_Wrecka (~da_wrecka@cpc4-live20-2-0-cust366.know.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 14:53.42 | Titan8990 | karl: it does only install the basic system... but the d-i would only select a task in addition |
| 14:54.01 | Titan8990 | karl: which can easily be done from the chroot during the deboostrap install with something like `tasksel laptop` |
| 14:54.20 | karl | hmm, sounds reasonable |
| 14:54.24 | timeoh | An assumption: I have two servers. Both are running XEN. I will copy a domain from one XEN to the other XEN. I HAVE TO shut done these domain. It is not possible to copy the domain while it is running? |
| 14:54.34 | *** join/#debian sepult (~user@xdsl-87-78-173-237.netcologne.de) |
| 14:54.50 | oggei | timeoh: you can migrate it using a proper setup and xen features |
| 14:54.58 | oggei | (basically, same storage) |
| 14:55.10 | iceroot | timeoh: i know that xen-server (citrix) can handle live-migration |
| 14:55.50 | timeoh | oggei: so it is possible. But when the copy is done, i have to start the Domain on the second XEN? |
| 14:55.59 | *** part/#debian debiansid (~siddhesh@triband-mum-120.61.3.194.mtnl.net.in) |
| 14:56.00 | *** join/#debian Sentinel_ (~modu@host25-54-dynamic.45-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 14:56.27 | oggei | timeoh: you live migrate so nothing (re)start |
| 14:57.04 | karl | hmm, so what are the main differences you get from doing a minimal install with d-i vs a debootstrap install ? |
| 14:57.14 | timeoh | oggei: okay thanks a lot. |
| 14:58.38 | abrotman | karl: ideally in the end, nothing .. one thing that comes to mind is the bootloader though |
| 15:00.11 | karl | by that you mean just the grub stage 1 in the mbr ? or grub entirely ? |
| 15:00.12 | oggei | iirc nothing that rely on debconf exits configured by a debootstrap run |
| 15:00.44 | oggei | so eg. timezone stuff and users |
| 15:00.47 | *** join/#debian charzero (~stephen@rrcs-208-105-197-153.nys.biz.rr.com) |
| 15:01.10 | MrWax | how can i automatically get a dhcp lease? |
| 15:01.33 | oggei | an initd build with modules=MOST can also fail if hw config changes |
| 15:02.19 | karl | ok, one more thing i tried is to use grub to boot from a lenny netinstall iso |
| 15:02.43 | karl | the booting from the iso worked fine, however, d-i then tried to find a install-CD and of course failed. |
| 15:02.49 | karl | any ideas about this ? |
| 15:03.05 | oggei | where did you put that iso ? |
| 15:03.12 | karl | hdd |
| 15:03.53 | karl | "/boot/iso/debian....netinst.iso |
| 15:03.56 | *** join/#debian fale (~quassel@93-36-129-53.ip60.fastwebnet.it) |
| 15:03.57 | oggei | if you can boot from usb is far more easy to prepare an usb stick install medium |
| 15:03.57 | *** join/#debian fale (~quassel@Wikimedia/Fale) |
| 15:04.23 | oggei | this because grub can speak partitions and filesystem stuff but after you booted kernel |
| 15:04.26 | *** join/#debian manic (~manicman@unaffiliated/manicman) |
| 15:04.43 | oggei | +initrd, nothing knows how to proceed because you still lacks proper stuff |
| 15:05.34 | karl | ok, i understand that, still i took that from a website where the guy apparently can boot various distro-isos from a usb-stick using grub2 |
| 15:05.53 | karl | he also had debian-netinst.iso in there so i assume that it should work |
| 15:06.21 | gothenburg | Netinstaller <3 |
| 15:06.21 | oggei | he's probably placing a kernel, an initrd and an iso on same medium |
| 15:06.41 | karl | nope, he is booting the kernel which is inside the iso |
| 15:06.56 | karl | it works fine, you just loop-mount the iso with grub and then boot the kernel |
| 15:07.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 899] by debhelper |
| 15:07.07 | oggei | so do the same |
| 15:07.25 | *** join/#debian klync (~klync@gentoo/user/klync) |
| 15:07.41 | karl | d-i starts fine from the iso, asks about the language and everything else, but then suddenly wants the CD |
| 15:08.35 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@secure.dreampark.se) |
| 15:08.41 | *** join/#debian cornair (~Christian@pD95349F3.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:08.42 | *** join/#debian TrickFinlay2 (~tricky@infinity.rh.rit.edu) |
| 15:08.45 | *** join/#debian jas4711 (~jas@2001:0:53aa:64c:2452:643b:af27:e79c) |
| 15:09.36 | tbsaunde | karl: d-i lets you choose where your installing, so why not just ue that? it seems like downbooting isn't a problem for you |
| 15:09.52 | *** join/#debian htk_ (~htk___@unaffiliated/htk-/x-9867211) |
| 15:10.21 | *** join/#debian Slayerduck (~ruudvdbur@veldsink.xs4all.nl) |
| 15:10.21 | *** join/#debian Slayerduck (~ruudvdbur@unaffiliated/slayerduck) |
| 15:10.21 | karl | tbsande: sure, i know how to do it, just pop in a netinst usb-stick or cd and install to that hdd |
| 15:11.22 | *** join/#debian flower (~d@cc305009-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) |
| 15:11.25 | htk_ | how can i clone my debian system without shutdown to another host (i'm trying rsync and ssh)? |
| 15:11.28 | karl | i just think it would be cool to be able to install to a removable hdd or usb-stick without rebooting the machine |
| 15:12.36 | tbsaunde | htk_: rsync / remotehost:/some/place/for/for/clone/ work for you? |
| 15:12.44 | karl | htk: rcp ? basically you just need to copy all your files |
| 15:13.34 | *** join/#debian Ssmario (~weechat@adsl196-42-83-206-196.adsl196-3.iam.net.ma) |
| 15:13.37 | karl | this is one really cool feature of linux, i keep a copy of my current system on a second partition, i update that copy before i do something weird like installing a new openoffice suite ... :) |
| 15:13.40 | tbsaunde | karl: agreed, booting the iso means shutdown though too, |
| 15:13.41 | *** join/#debian oblu (~oblu@ip-89-103-168-220.karneval.cz) |
| 15:13.48 | htk_ | do i need root account each side |
| 15:13.50 | karl | yep |
| 15:14.01 | tbsaunde | karl: I think the options are a vm or debootstrap |
| 15:14.11 | karl | agreed |
| 15:14.21 | tbsaunde | karl: I agree debootstrap setup is a bit of a pain |
| 15:14.37 | *** join/#debian eledesmar (~eledesmar@190.166.102.40) |
| 15:14.41 | *** join/#debian fishie (~fishie@c-76-123-5-161.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 15:14.41 | *** join/#debian nadar (~nobody@p54B4A49A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:14.53 | wols_ | htk_: I suggest to remount read only ot the source you copy |
| 15:14.56 | karl | but i do not see a real reason why d-i should not be able to run inside a running system |
| 15:14.58 | fishie | how to force remount of root partition as ro, filesystem is busy |
| 15:15.18 | karl | maybe i'll ask at #debian-boot |
| 15:15.27 | karl | thanks for your help all ! |
| 15:15.37 | karl | gotta run, bye |
| 15:15.46 | *** join/#debian sepult (~user@xdsl-87-78-173-237.netcologne.de) |
| 15:16.00 | htk_ | i think debootstrap dangeraus script without knowing what doing are |
| 15:16.05 | *** join/#debian fishie (~fishie@c-76-123-5-161.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 15:16.22 | htk_ | i accidently deleted half of my root filesystem with debootstrap |
| 15:16.43 | tbsaunde | htk_: ??? |
| 15:16.53 | htk_ | because debootstrap firstly delete root |
| 15:17.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 905] by debhelper |
| 15:17.06 | Ssmario | Hi, i skiped the grub install step while installing debian on one of my partitions, i've also installed windows, what should i do in order to install grub ? thanks. |
| 15:17.13 | hile | htk_: remember to --exclude /dev/* /proc/* /sys/* with remote rsync backups, you don't want to backup such directories (you want the empty directory in the backup though) |
| 15:17.24 | Ssmario | i'm now on ubuntu 9.10 (liveCD) |
| 15:17.55 | fishie | how to force remount of root partition as ro, filesystem is busy |
| 15:18.24 | nadar | as i tried to write a disc k3b suddenly meant it has no rights to open the device - and now the burning device is not shown anymore at k3b nor brasero. i restartet hal, udev and dbus, to see if it would help but it didn't. what's to do (besides the windows-like solution reboot *cough* |
| 15:18.33 | ketsa | Ssmario: you should /join #ubuntu |
| 15:18.46 | tbsaunde | smhar: chroot into /debian and apt-get install grub |
| 15:19.20 | Ssmario | tbsaunde: done, what next :) |
| 15:19.28 | karlpinc | Ssmario: You can boot from your install cd, in rescue mode if you like, and run the grub-install step. Just skip the other stuff. Expert mode works too. |
| 15:19.35 | ketsa | update-grub or update-grub2 ? |
| 15:19.38 | hile | htk_: also read about --link-dest, if you want daily backups, it helps you backup only modified files to a separate "incremental" directory |
| 15:19.43 | karlpinc | Ssmario: You can do it by hand, but why? |
| 15:20.42 | *** join/#debian allisterb (~allisterb@cuscon123826.tstt.net.tt) |
| 15:20.52 | Ssmario | for learning purposes :P |
| 15:21.42 | *** join/#debian Azhrarn (~Azhrarn@hermes.themis-group.com) |
| 15:22.45 | hile | htk_: we are actually cloning servers this way automated fashion in addition to bacula, unfortunately the exact scripts to automate it are coded for customer and not public - you can ask me for rsync backup related stuff anyway |
| 15:23.14 | klync | so msn support in pidgin ... still broken it seems? (on lenny) |
| 15:23.29 | *** join/#debian SoulSeller (ss@unaffiliated/soulseller) |
| 15:23.40 | *** join/#debian morfol (~morfol@port-92-195-4-222.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 15:23.44 | Ssmario | karlpinc: i typed grub-install /dev/sda under chroot and i got grub-probe: error: Cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sda3. Check your device mapĆĀ· |
| 15:23.47 | *** join/#debian thieusoai (~tvn@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) |
| 15:24.18 | karlpinc | hile: There's rsnapshot, dirvish, and I've a script I wrote I prefer that you can use if you like. |
| 15:24.20 | Ssmario | in /boot/grub there is nothing but the device.map |
| 15:24.36 | *** join/#debian TheOnly (~theonly@cpat002.wlan.net.ed.ac.uk) |
| 15:25.33 | *** join/#debian bfremon (~ben@pas38-2-82-67-73-175.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:25.33 | *** join/#debian ukwiz (~ukwiz@dmamain.org.uk) |
| 15:25.42 | hile | karlpinc: yeah I'm sure this has been implemented multiple times |
| 15:26.32 | *** join/#debian KavanS (~KavanS@static-173-50-141-22.ptldor.fios.verizon.net) |
| 15:26.40 | *** join/#debian g0n (~ggon@171.Red-80-38-102.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:28.51 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@99-196-115-143.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 15:30.12 | *** part/#debian ^shark_ (~Jerry_Jor@41.217.237.179) |
| 15:30.15 | *** part/#debian fishie (~fishie@c-76-123-5-161.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 15:31.13 | *** join/#debian icebrain (~icebrain@gw-e-U-EdII.nat.fct.unl.pt) |
| 15:32.04 | *** join/#debian ia (~ia@89.169.161.244) |
| 15:32.48 | *** join/#debian brodul_ (~brodul@BSN-143-121-104.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) |
| 15:33.02 | *** join/#debian EagleWatch (~eaglewatc@89.122.234.1) |
| 15:33.09 | *** join/#debian Carnophage (~carno@dynamic-78-8-156-2.ssp.dialog.net.pl) |
| 15:34.20 | *** join/#debian klync_ (~klync@69-196-165-109.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 15:35.32 | kokomo59 | hello! Does anyone have information about the future of Xen in Debian? (I have read that it could not be supported anymore...) Thanks |
| 15:35.54 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 15:36.04 | themill | !squeeze kernel |
| 15:36.04 | dpkg | from memory, squeeze kernel is likely to be 2.6.32 and will not have kernel mode setting enabled by default. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/10/msg00003.html and ask me about <KMS>. See also <squeeze udev>, <kernel abi>. |
| 15:36.18 | *** join/#debian klync (~klync@gentoo/user/klync) |
| 15:37.13 | *** join/#debian Gud (~erik@82.182.85.203) |
| 15:37.48 | Gud | hi, I am having problems with my wireless connection |
| 15:37.55 | *** join/#debian sneezewort (~hbarrett@129.24.63.254) |
| 15:38.14 | Gud | for some reason I am unable to connect to the APP |
| 15:38.46 | *** join/#debian oblu (~oblu@ip-89-103-168-220.karneval.cz) |
| 15:38.55 | Gud | and another issue is when I try to connect to the wireless network with the network manager, the wired network disconnects |
| 15:40.01 | Gud | I have been a long time user of FreeBSD and I haven't used debian in quite a while, so if someone could please help me debug this I would be grateful |
| 15:40.09 | *** join/#debian Rena (~freenode@user.renaporn.com) |
| 15:40.39 | Gud | I can see the AP when I do iwlist scan |
| 15:40.45 | *** join/#debian russian_ulysses_ (~vic@93.100.135.121) |
| 15:40.50 | *** join/#debian j4k0b (~j4k0b@1503024517.dhcp.dbnet.dk) |
| 15:41.16 | Titan8990 | Gud: what happens if you try to connect manually instead of using network-manager? |
| 15:41.51 | Gud | Titan8990: with wpa_supplicant? |
| 15:42.22 | Titan8990 | Gud: if you are using wpa, yes |
| 15:42.42 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@212.51.167.181) |
| 15:42.42 | Gud | Titan8990: hold on |
| 15:42.53 | Gud | Trying to associate with 00:25:9c:24:e5:04 (SSID='SSS' freq=2437 MHz) |
| 15:42.53 | Gud | CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED - Disconnect event - remove keys |
| 15:42.53 | Gud | Associated with 00:25:9c:24:e5:04 |
| 15:42.54 | *** kick/#debian [Gud!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use the paster bot or #flood) |
| 15:42.58 | *** join/#debian Gud (~erik@82.182.85.203) |
| 15:43.03 | Gud | oops |
| 15:43.07 | Gud | Titan8990: thats what Iget |
| 15:43.22 | *** join/#debian seba (~seba@2001:6f8:124c:2323:2ff:cdff:fe80:1913) |
| 15:44.51 | *** join/#debian chomwitt (~chomwitt@ppp-94-66-172-188.home.otenet.gr) |
| 15:45.04 | *** join/#debian msaizar (~martin@r190-135-207-124.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 15:45.08 | *** join/#debian taras (~taras@unaffiliated/taraskostiak) |
| 15:45.16 | *** part/#debian kokomo59 (~kokomo@mars.cri-admin.ens-lyon.fr) |
| 15:45.36 | seba | hi |
| 15:45.57 | *** join/#debian StarG_ (~John@f053082086.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 15:46.00 | *** join/#debian LamerC (~allen@adsl-154-24-64.clt.bellsouth.net) |
| 15:46.04 | *** join/#debian dub (~dub@2002:3cea:4782:beef:fade::1) |
| 15:46.34 | seba | i have an thinkpad x200t with debian testing and have problems executing a script when i convert it to a tablet. the acpi-events don't show up in acpi_listen, even if thinkpad_acpi is loaded and hotkeys are enabled |
| 15:46.39 | *** join/#debian ashledombos (~quassel@mandriva/forum/ashledombos) |
| 15:46.39 | *** join/#debian DanDare (~DanDare@189.59.161.159) |
| 15:47.18 | *** join/#debian bfremon (~ben@pas38-2-82-67-73-175.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:47.35 | seba | i found what i believe to be the event with input-events in /dev/input/event5 ... but i dont have a clue how to map that to a script or something |
| 15:47.44 | karlpinc | seba: You could try a newer kernel from backports.org and see if that makes a difference. |
| 15:47.57 | LamerC | Hello. I'm looking for a little help. I've in the process of installing some packages and updating to testing. Now, I'm having an odd networking problem where name lookups seem to fail in some applications but success in others. |
| 15:48.08 | *** join/#debian project2501b (~project25@86.51.114.108) |
| 15:48.12 | seba | hm, i have 2.6.32-trunk-686, thought that would be new enough? |
| 15:48.32 | karlpinc | seba: linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org can be very helpful, I think. |
| 15:48.54 | LamerC | For instance, I can 'links www.google.com' just fine, but using Epiphany or Firefox results in unable to connect to server. Also, apt can't connect to the repositories. |
| 15:49.34 | karlpinc | seba: dunno. Sounds plausable. |
| 15:50.22 | *** join/#debian pitoow (~pitoow@189.11.130.25) |
| 15:50.33 | *** join/#debian Wisdump (~Joe@78-23-149-46.access.telenet.be) |
| 15:50.40 | *** join/#debian ChaozZBubi (~bubi@piratenpartei/supporter/chaozzbubi) |
| 15:50.40 | karlpinc | LamerC: That's odd. Testing does break. Does xeyes work? |
| 15:51.00 | LamerC | Yes it seems to be working fine. |
| 15:51.10 | karlpinc | LamerC: No clue. I don't use testing. |
| 15:51.39 | *** join/#debian ChEaSeR (~lpetrov@77.78.176.217) |
| 15:51.39 | *** join/#debian ChEaSeR (~lpetrov@unaffiliated/lpetrov) |
| 15:51.44 | Titan8990 | !qotd0 |
| 15:51.44 | dpkg | <bart_> seanius, only 4 people at #C++ <seanius> try another network then <bart_> network? <bart_> IRC is the biggest isn't it? |
| 15:52.27 | *** join/#debian lvh (~lvh@83.101.62.190) |
| 15:52.29 | charzero | LamerC: Did you restart Epiphany/Firefox. They will not notice changes to resolv.conf. |
| 15:52.34 | seba | http://paste.debian.net/61099/ <- this is what input-events looks like |
| 15:52.38 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@h128-254.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) |
| 15:53.45 | seba | it even gets mapped correctly by /sys/devices/platform/thinkpad_acpi/hotkey_tablet_mode - so i imagine there must be some way for me to map that ;) |
| 15:54.28 | LamerC | Yes. I've restarted, even reboot. When using apt-get update, aptitude update, synaptic, etc. some are Hit some are Ign (for http://security.debian.org), but Err for http://ftp.us.debian.org |
| 15:54.36 | *** join/#debian GeetarJake (~jgreen@216.207.124.226) |
| 15:54.37 | *** join/#debian zink (~zink@pc-121-227-100-190.cm.vtr.net) |
| 15:56.44 | _KaszpiR_ | paster bot? |
| 15:57.52 | *** join/#debian iKs (~iks@128.220.159.20) |
| 16:00.39 | *** join/#debian eledesmar_ (~eledesmar@190.166.101.255) |
| 16:01.27 | *** join/#debian russian_ulysses (~vic@93.100.135.121) |
| 16:01.33 | *** join/#debian BoomSie (~gideon@dw77242112238.amsterdam-tc.dataweb.net) |
| 16:02.20 | *** join/#debian ^c0_SendiRIan^ (~A7mDoOo@95.66.8.206) |
| 16:02.49 | LamerC | Are there any other repo mirrors? Links is resolving just fine 'security.debian.org' but not 'ftp.us.debian.org'. For now I'm going to try manually setting the IP in /etc/hosts |
| 16:02.51 | *** join/#debian j4k0b (~j4k0b@1503024517.dhcp.dbnet.dk) |
| 16:02.52 | *** join/#debian fnmrwick (~cmr@d54C7F81C.access.telenet.be) |
| 16:03.29 | *** join/#debian HardDisk_WP (~Marco@wikipedia/harddisk) |
| 16:04.17 | abrotman | LamerC: debian.org/mirrors/list |
| 16:04.27 | *** join/#debian TheOnly (~theonly@cpat002.wlan.net.ed.ac.uk) |
| 16:04.29 | seba | why are there some packages, which have been for ages in stable, are (maybe in a newer version) in sid, but disappeared suddenly somehow out of testing? |
| 16:05.01 | *** join/#debian amsterdam (~nixda@xdsl-87-79-50-184.netcologne.de) |
| 16:05.01 | abrotman | seba: various reasons .. they may have been removed for transition reasons or perhaps it was removed from testing before release and it hasn't made it back in yet |
| 16:05.11 | themill | seba: packages that are sufficiently buggy in testing are removed to improve the quality of the entire distribution (and sometimes to ease other transitions) |
| 16:05.12 | aburch | seba: Packages can be removed from testing for various reasons. |
| 16:06.20 | *** join/#debian llutz (~lutz@pdpc/supporter/active/llutz) |
| 16:06.47 | seba | ahum okay, thx |
| 16:06.58 | *** join/#debian Cain` (~Geek@unaffiliated/cain) |
| 16:07.03 | seba | but is there a way for me to know why? |
| 16:07.17 | themill | seba: /msg dpkg why is foopackage not in testing |
| 16:07.46 | seba | ah, thank you :) |
| 16:07.49 | *** join/#debian chomwitt_ (~chomwitt@athedsl-268890.home.otenet.gr) |
| 16:07.56 | *** join/#debian reaf (~reaf@206.248.190.90) |
| 16:08.27 | *** join/#debian neosmatrix_ (~neo@ip-109-91-57-23.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 16:09.02 | abrotman | seba: also /msg dpkg removals |
| 16:09.10 | *** join/#debian Final (~forget_it@p5498B346.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:09.12 | reaf | Does anyone have any experience with raid cards (3ware) ? |
| 16:09.24 | abrotman | reaf: be less vague |
| 16:09.43 | *** join/#debian ascendant (~chris@75.111.164.34) |
| 16:09.56 | ascendant | hi everyone |
| 16:10.13 | ascendant | hopefully some of you know a little bit about debian |
| 16:10.32 | themill | !ask |
| 16:10.32 | reaf | hey abrotman, I was looking into the 3ware 9000 series(9500S) cards that I want to run my debian box on. The problem is that I know these cards have a max raid size, and 3ware isn't explicit about what it is. I believe it maybe around 32T |
| 16:10.32 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 16:10.34 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@99-196-115-143.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 16:10.37 | *** join/#debian F15ch3r (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 16:10.51 | ascendant | i've just installed xebian on an xbox, and am looking for some first steps |
| 16:10.52 | *** join/#debian behanw (~behanw@216.16.247.198) |
| 16:10.59 | abrotman | reaf: and your filesystem also has a max limit |
| 16:11.04 | ascendant | mainly performing updates |
| 16:11.06 | *** join/#debian Bry-Dog (~Bry-Dog@131.104.13.0) |
| 16:11.07 | ascendant | and adding a user |
| 16:11.22 | ascendant | i use gentoo linux on my 2 main computer |
| 16:11.22 | reaf | abrotman, will check into that |
| 16:11.23 | ascendant | s |
| 16:11.26 | themill | dpkg: tell ascendant about xebian |
| 16:11.27 | abrotman | !tell ascendant about xebian |
| 16:11.37 | themill | !win me |
| 16:11.37 | dpkg | Congratulations, themill! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 16:11.44 | ascendant | ah |
| 16:12.06 | *** join/#debian aucabarcas (~inteltame@190.253.180.26) |
| 16:12.10 | Titan8990 | ascendant: the debian reference manual would have that information your looking for |
| 16:12.34 | ascendant | ok, google should be able to find that for me without much trouble |
| 16:12.37 | abrotman | reaf: i'd probably call 3ware instead of asking on IRC .. there seem to be a few different submodels |
| 16:12.47 | *** part/#debian Delf (~Delf@unaffiliated/delf) |
| 16:13.21 | *** part/#debian derpderpderp (~derp@dslb-092-076-176-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:13.48 | reaf | abrotman, will do that as well, I was just trying to get a feeling of how debian performs on it. I have around 10Tb of drives that I am planning to put into raid. |
| 16:13.57 | abrotman | reaf: and a few different iterations and they haven't changed the model numbers .. i found an article from 2004 that says 3TB .. obviously not useful |
| 16:14.01 | *** join/#debian sidRo (~chatzilla@86.122.241.170) |
| 16:14.06 | *** part/#debian ascendant (~chris@75.111.164.34) |
| 16:14.13 | reaf | abrotman, found the max volume size for partitions for reiserfs and ext3 to be around 16Tb |
| 16:14.51 | reaf | abrotman, I was looking into buying a card and wondering what cards people have owned and their experiences with the cards |
| 16:15.29 | Titan8990 | reaf: XFS supports 16 exabytes |
| 16:15.30 | reaf | abrotman, yea I have found that some cards have even a max size of 2Tb and that kinda suck! |
| 16:16.33 | reaf | Titan8990, really? cool |
| 16:16.39 | lucascarvalho | hi, is there any easy and simple tutorial to teach how to create a .deb binary package for a given directory? |
| 16:16.46 | reaf | Titan8990, zfs is also 16Eb |
| 16:16.51 | Titan8990 | reaf: yeah, at this point in time, its pretty much limitless |
| 16:16.56 | karlpinc | reaf: I prefer doing raid in software, just because I don't want to have a spare controller on hand in case the one I'm using breaks. I don't see performance problems, although there's always the "every little bit hurts" theory. |
| 16:17.48 | *** join/#debian digitalmortician (~digitalmo@84-73-223-25.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 16:17.58 | abrotman | karlpinc: and some PHBs prefer it to be in hardware |
| 16:17.59 | Titan8990 | karlpinc: if *real* hardware raid can be afforeded it should be used |
| 16:18.07 | wols_ | !gpt |
| 16:18.10 | reaf | karlpinc, I am simply trying to try hardware raid, I have tried software raid before. |
| 16:18.22 | karlpinc | !tell lucascarvalho about debhelper |
| 16:18.27 | wols_ | does the debian kernel support gpt out of the box? |
| 16:18.53 | reaf | so anyone have any specific raid cards that they can recommend/ |
| 16:18.55 | karlpinc | Titan8990: Why? How much overhead is there? |
| 16:19.03 | *** part/#debian bonehead (~chris@mail.tlcind.com) |
| 16:19.11 | hile | yeah, "real hardware raid" is just as expensive (or more expensive) as the stack of disks for many people and you should have a spare card .... |
| 16:19.16 | reaf | karlpinc, that depends on the setup |
| 16:20.51 | karlpinc | reaf: I always wanted to fiddle with drdb and have something really fault-tolerant. Life is short. :-) |
| 16:20.58 | reaf | karlpinc, if you are into speed, then in almost any case hardware would outdo software |
| 16:21.03 | *** join/#debian rduplain (~rduplain@cv-nat-A-129.cv.nrao.edu) |
| 16:21.55 | hile | many home users considering raid put 4x1TB SATA or similar, and in such setup the proper hw raid card is more expensive than the disks |
| 16:22.09 | karlpinc | reaf: Execpt that the bottleneck is the drive mechanics, so no matter how fast the rest of the system is it's all the same in the end. |
| 16:22.17 | *** join/#debian madi (~madi@unaffiliated/madi) |
| 16:22.23 | reaf | hile, true |
| 16:22.26 | hile | make a setup of 16x 10k RPM SAS drives and the controller does not matter so much anymore :) |
| 16:22.35 | *** join/#debian Delf (~Delf@unaffiliated/delf) |
| 16:22.44 | Titan8990 | most are not 15k? |
| 16:22.56 | Delf | What do I type to find out what cpu I have? |
| 16:23.02 | *** join/#debian Anubisss (Anubisss@ip-173-152-userpool.zeg.zelkanet.hu) |
| 16:23.03 | hile | yeah, 10k or 15k |
| 16:23.05 | reaf | hile, however try and have your cpu do the distributing of the data and you would find that you are at a bottleneck eh? |
| 16:23.06 | Titan8990 | Delf: `cat /proc/cpuinfo` |
| 16:23.10 | karlpinc | Delf: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 16:23.21 | Delf | thank you, both. |
| 16:23.40 | hile | reaf, sure. I'm strong supported of proper cards, it just does not make sense below certain price point |
| 16:23.59 | *** join/#debian badzo_ (~badzo@h-87-199-12-116.dolsat.pl) |
| 16:24.03 | badzo_ | hi |
| 16:24.11 | *** join/#debian fishsponge_ (~fishspong@212.44.16.158) |
| 16:24.13 | Delf | no such file or directory |
| 16:24.13 | *** join/#debian MarGarina (~orenhe@12.154.28.10) |
| 16:24.17 | badzo_ | do you have any idea if it is possible to install e17 on debian lenny? |
| 16:24.20 | reaf | hile, that is why I was thinking of buying a used card of ebay or something. They run into ~200 . |
| 16:24.42 | hile | reaf: as long as you get two similar or have very nice backup setup |
| 16:25.08 | LamerC | This is indeed interesting. If aptitude can lookup security.debian.org then why can't it do the same for ftp.us.debian.org (without /etc/hosts), when Links can open both. |
| 16:25.19 | hile | reaf: the card fails, you lose the data until you get correct card somewhere, not good |
| 16:25.37 | Delf | guys, cat /proc/cpuinfo don't work |
| 16:25.45 | LamerC | Could this be a problem of just partially installing some things from testing (gimp, etc) instead of doing a full dist-upgrade? |
| 16:25.58 | hile | of course, you need backups anyway, but there is difference if you can access the files by hooking up the disks to other box or not |
| 16:26.01 | *** join/#debian Sememmon (~Sememmon@unaffiliated/sememmon) |
| 16:26.19 | reaf | hile, I will be also backup up data. I am not going to use the card to prevent failures. It will be used to increase speed, remove overhead from cpu, and help me deal with drive failures. |
| 16:26.35 | hile | yeah, then it's no such big deal |
| 16:27.03 | Delf | how do i find out what cpu I have? DON'T tell me cat /proc/cpuinfo, tried it already, no such file or directory. |
| 16:27.09 | reaf | hile, that is what I thought, when I bought my first raid card and realized that the max raid size is 2Tb and it was not mentioned in the specs of the card |
| 16:27.11 | Titan8990 | Delf: what doesn't work? pastebin your full command and the output |
| 16:27.25 | reaf | Delf: do you have proc mounted? |
| 16:27.25 | *** join/#debian thorben (~t@omhp-uva-29-145.wireless.uva.nl) |
| 16:27.44 | Delf | I don't even know what proc is |
| 16:28.01 | Titan8990 | reaf: that would only apply if he was in a chroot... otherwise his system wouldn't function |
| 16:28.18 | Titan8990 | Delf: pastebin the full command and the output, most likely there is a typo in your command |
| 16:28.19 | reaf | maybe it doesn't ;) |
| 16:28.19 | *** join/#debian Dilnoza (~Dilnoza@81-95-233-171.dialup.sarkor.uz) |
| 16:28.30 | Titan8990 | reaf: hehe |
| 16:28.34 | Delf | it's not a typo |
| 16:28.44 | *** join/#debian HazardX (~HazardX3@smi28-129-63-28-61.dhcp.uml.edu) |
| 16:28.46 | reaf | Delf: do what the man says |
| 16:28.48 | hile | obviously it is because that command works in every debian system |
| 16:29.04 | wols_ | Delf: if you are in a standard debian, you have proc. if you don't, many things will break |
| 16:29.12 | hile | of course, maybe you are running a BSD :) |
| 16:29.16 | reaf | :) |
| 16:29.17 | Delf | terminal version of debian |
| 16:29.17 | *** join/#debian HarryS (H@ipv6.harryy.us) |
| 16:29.20 | Delf | no desktop envior |
| 16:29.31 | wols_ | Delf: doesn't matter. |
| 16:29.45 | *** join/#debian radoe_ (WhoCares@unaffiliated/radoe) |
| 16:29.45 | Delf | cat does not even exist |
| 16:29.49 | reaf | lol |
| 16:29.51 | Titan8990 | Delf: debian does not have different "versions" just because a certain piece of software such as a GUI is installed |
| 16:29.56 | reaf | you were saying Titan8990 |
| 16:30.03 | Titan8990 | reaf: haha.... |
| 16:30.05 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@ghenry.plus.com) |
| 16:30.05 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/ghenry) |
| 16:30.06 | Delf | Titan8990: forgive me @ "version". |
| 16:30.13 | wols_ | then you have a broken debian. /bin/cat should always exist |
| 16:30.20 | Delf | BIN? |
| 16:30.29 | Delf | no one said anything about bin in front of cat |
| 16:30.41 | wols_ | you usually don't need to since /bin is in the PATH |
| 16:30.44 | reaf | Delf: do you have df? |
| 16:30.46 | Titan8990 | Delf: its not required, unless you have messed around with your $PATH env variable |
| 16:31.00 | Delf | I haven't touched those things |
| 16:31.09 | Delf | reaf I don't know what df is |
| 16:31.15 | reaf | command df |
| 16:31.17 | Titan8990 | Delf: does /bin appear if you do: `echo $PATH`? |
| 16:31.25 | reaf | `df` |
| 16:31.43 | *** join/#debian fishsponge__ (~fishspong@212.44.16.158) |
| 16:31.51 | amphi | what's this plague of backticks? ;) |
| 16:31.53 | Delf | lets se |
| 16:32.02 | *** join/#debian bLzR (~bLzR@d54C58FE6.access.telenet.be) |
| 16:32.04 | *** join/#debian Uby (~Uby@93-47-41-183.ip111.fastwebnet.it) |
| 16:32.05 | wols_ | amphi: plagus aren't rational |
| 16:32.08 | Delf | yes it does |
| 16:32.18 | Delf | 3 or 4 times |
| 16:32.22 | Uby | hi all :) |
| 16:32.22 | wols_ | Delf: are you in a busybox? |
| 16:32.32 | hile | busybox has cat |
| 16:32.34 | Delf | whats a busybox? |
| 16:32.42 | wols_ | hile: mea culpa |
| 16:32.44 | hile | that's why it's so busy, try keeping a cat in a box ... |
| 16:32.52 | Titan8990 | Delf: its a minimal shell that you get dropped into when your system fails to boot properly |
| 16:32.54 | Delf | wtf.. |
| 16:33.09 | reaf | hile: tried that and still cannot get the scratches off my face |
| 16:33.13 | Titan8990 | Delf: what does your prompt look like? |
| 16:33.25 | Delf | tinc:/# |
| 16:33.46 | reaf | Titan8990: I bet his proc isn't mounted |
| 16:33.46 | Delf | the usual one? |
| 16:33.56 | reaf | Titan8990: init=/bin/bash ? |
| 16:34.11 | the-dude | Delf: hardware of virtual machine? |
| 16:34.14 | wols_ | Delf: what does "runlevel" say? |
| 16:34.26 | Titan8990 | reaf: chair->keyboard error, yes |
| 16:34.27 | Delf | hardware |
| 16:34.30 | Delf | remote machine |
| 16:34.39 | reaf | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.49 | Delf | runlevel says N 2 |
| 16:34.57 | wols_ | Delf: "mount" |
| 16:35.11 | Delf | one hell of a things @ mount |
| 16:35.24 | wols_ | I know. paste.debian.net is a wonderful website |
| 16:35.27 | *** part/#debian Uby (~Uby@93-47-41-183.ip111.fastwebnet.it) |
| 16:35.36 | *** join/#debian Judas_PhD (~kvirc@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) |
| 16:35.46 | Delf | there is procbusush |
| 16:36.04 | Delf | theres proc too |
| 16:36.19 | Delf | wols, I cannot copy or paste |
| 16:36.20 | wols_ | it should look like proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) |
| 16:36.31 | *** part/#debian LamerC (~allen@adsl-154-24-64.clt.bellsouth.net) |
| 16:36.37 | wols_ | Delf: you have a ssh shell. putty? |
| 16:36.39 | Delf | I'm using another machine to ssh the debian machine |
| 16:36.39 | Titan8990 | Delf: thats what pastebinit is for |
| 16:36.54 | wols_ | Delf: and your local machine runs what? |
| 16:36.55 | Titan8990 | Delf: and the machine your on doesn't have copy and paste functionality?? |
| 16:36.57 | reaf | Delf: can you do screenshots? |
| 16:37.09 | Delf | 3 machines |
| 16:37.23 | roe | is there a way to find out what is keeping icedove in experimental? |
| 16:37.24 | Delf | one I chat with, the other I remote control, the other is the debian machine itself |
| 16:37.26 | reaf | Delf: How did you setup the first 2? |
| 16:37.27 | *** join/#debian eledesmar_ (~eledesmar@190.166.101.255) |
| 16:37.47 | Delf | two last you mean? |
| 16:37.52 | *** join/#debian thresh (~popa3d@videolan/developer/thresh) |
| 16:38.04 | reaf | Delf: ohh, they aren't debian machines, right? |
| 16:38.13 | Delf | indeed, win 7 |
| 16:38.24 | thresh | hey. anyone using debian in macbook w/ bcm4328 wireless? |
| 16:38.31 | *** join/#debian fishsponge_ (~fishspong@212.44.16.158) |
| 16:38.43 | reaf | Delf: ok, maybe it would easier if you get screenshots?> |
| 16:38.45 | wols_ | Delf: another place where you can see (sorta) what cpu you have is /var/log/dmesg |
| 16:38.48 | Titan8990 | Delf: i am certain windows 7 has the ability to copy and paste |
| 16:38.56 | Titan8990 | wols_: and uname -a |
| 16:39.03 | thresh | getting into a problem, network manager doesnt seem to get the interface up and running |
| 16:39.13 | wols_ | Titan8990: no |
| 16:39.23 | *** join/#debian mezgani (~Handrix@wana-94-229-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 16:39.27 | Delf | Titan8990: I have 3 different machines! |
| 16:39.31 | *** part/#debian mquin (~mquin@freenode/staff/mquin) |
| 16:39.31 | *** join/#debian mquin (~mquin@freenode/staff/mquin) |
| 16:39.36 | wols_ | Delf: that's no excuse |
| 16:39.39 | Titan8990 | wols_: oops, your right |
| 16:39.50 | Delf | I don't know how to copy from the machine that copies the text |
| 16:40.00 | Delf | It doesn't say anything much either |
| 16:40.13 | wols_ | Delf: each has a network connection. as soon you have that, the output of the commands can be put on a pastebin |
| 16:40.41 | Delf | for god sakes.. |
| 16:40.45 | *** part/#debian HarryS (H@ipv6.harryy.us) |
| 16:40.45 | *** join/#debian HarryS (H@ipv6.harryy.us) |
| 16:40.48 | Titan8990 | !tell thresh about wl |
| 16:40.48 | rvsjoen | use pastbinit |
| 16:40.49 | wols_ | Delf: you said you saw a /proc when running "mount". hence there is a /proc/cpuinfo |
| 16:40.51 | rvsjoen | pastebinit |
| 16:40.59 | thresh | Titan8990: i've set it up and iwlist scan works fine. |
| 16:41.04 | themill | wols_: but apparently, there isn't cat... |
| 16:41.07 | Delf | what is the CAT/proc then? |
| 16:41.08 | Titan8990 | thresh: check PM from dpkg. boradcoms are terrible to work with |
| 16:41.17 | wols_ | Delf: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 16:41.17 | Delf | there's no directory called CAT |
| 16:41.18 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@84.28.246.30) |
| 16:41.20 | Delf | cat* |
| 16:41.24 | rvsjoen | delf: cat is a command |
| 16:41.25 | Titan8990 | Delf: `cat` is a command |
| 16:41.28 | thresh | Titan8990: i know how to configure the interface. |
| 16:41.33 | Titan8990 | Delf: part of GNU coreutils and located in /bin |
| 16:41.34 | Delf | ok theres a space.. |
| 16:41.36 | thresh | cant figure out how to get any debug info from NM |
| 16:41.38 | Delf | I'm blind, my bad |
| 16:41.41 | hile | :) |
| 16:41.45 | reaf | Delf: so it works? |
| 16:41.47 | themill | oh ffs |
| 16:41.47 | Delf | it's not cat/bla bla.. its cat /blabla |
| 16:41.51 | Delf | I'll try it now |
| 16:41.52 | Titan8990 | thresh: yes, but did you install the firmware like in the guide? |
| 16:41.53 | *** join/#debian goose (goose@unaffiliated/hansthedestroyer) |
| 16:42.02 | Delf | yes, it did |
| 16:42.05 | reaf | wow |
| 16:42.08 | reaf | what are your specs? |
| 16:42.12 | thresh | Titan8990: Yes. |
| 16:42.14 | wols_ | Delf: for obvious reasons I suggest more /proc/cpuinfo |
| 16:42.14 | Titan8990 | Delf: told you it was a typo :) |
| 16:42.18 | Delf | a useless amd athlon xp 2200+ |
| 16:42.28 | thresh | Titan8990: Otherwise, the interface wouldnt show up and/or i wouldnt have iwlist / iwconfig working. |
| 16:42.32 | Delf | 1.8ghz |
| 16:42.34 | reaf | all this for a useless athlon xp2200 |
| 16:42.36 | wols_ | Delf: you talk a lot of crap |
| 16:42.49 | reaf | :) |
| 16:42.57 | Delf | wols_: whats that suppose to mean? |
| 16:42.58 | Titan8990 | thresh: do you have any issues connecting manually with iwconfig? |
| 16:43.21 | amphi | Delf: why is useless? have its wheels come off? |
| 16:43.23 | wols_ | Delf: that what I wrote. since I'm considerate to your feelings, I don't type what I really mean |
| 16:43.54 | rvsjoen | thresh: may I ask what you are trying to do ? |
| 16:43.57 | thresh | Titan8990: I fail to configure WPA-PSK with iwconfig :) |
| 16:43.58 | reaf | wols_: thank you for being considerate to his feelings |
| 16:44.08 | wols_ | my pleasure |
| 16:44.14 | rvsjoen | thresh: you need wpa_supplicant for that |
| 16:44.15 | goose | I'm trying to run "make; make install" on a VPS box that keeps on locking up and requiring hard restart whenever I do. I've also tried changing the drive out to another box with different hardware. Same issue. Anyone have any ideas? |
| 16:44.15 | thresh | rvsjoen: trying to get a connection using KNetworkManager. |
| 16:44.28 | Delf | if it's useless or not depends totally on the task it's mounted at |
| 16:44.37 | Delf | on? |
| 16:44.37 | reaf | wols_: he is obviously very new to debian(linux) |
| 16:44.47 | wols_ | thresh: sprinkle logging commands into your makefile |
| 16:44.55 | Delf | sure theres lots of things to do with a 1.8ghz |
| 16:45.07 | thresh | wols_: uhm, **makefile** ? |
| 16:45.07 | reaf | Delf: you are right, now enjoy your system |
| 16:45.31 | wols_ | oh, was for goose, sorry. you go on and install wpa-supplicant :) |
| 16:45.35 | Titan8990 | thresh: the file... called Makefile that is executed when you run `make` |
| 16:45.36 | thresh | I did. |
| 16:45.39 | thresh | Titan8990: I know. |
| 16:45.46 | *** join/#debian brotakku (~brotakku@dslc-082-082-086-182.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:45.59 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@r2r157.net.upc.cz) |
| 16:46.01 | thresh | wpa_supplicant is launched by KNM, but i cant connect to it using wpa_cli. |
| 16:46.03 | Delf | no doubt most of you guys hate me |
| 16:46.04 | Titan8990 | thresh: ah, i just saw you were asking |
| 16:46.50 | Titan8990 | thresh: any info in dmesg when trying to connect with either method? |
| 16:46.55 | thresh | Titan8990: Nope. |
| 16:46.56 | goose | wols_: to what level of logging? Each time I can see that it locks up while building a different module, seemingly random |
| 16:47.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 896] by debhelper |
| 16:47.01 | rvsjoen | thresh: I dont know anything about KNM, but you could try configuring it in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:47.10 | *** join/#debian xerophyte (~xerophyte@CPE001bfc5ef43b-CM001bd7ac48f4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 16:47.13 | Titan8990 | thresh: excuse me, /var/log/messages |
| 16:47.23 | thresh | not there either |
| 16:47.36 | wols_ | goose: hardware problem then. probably bad/hot CPU |
| 16:47.44 | thresh | rvsjoen: I would not enjoy configuring every wireless network i'm in.. though for testing, maybe i should indeed. |
| 16:47.48 | wols_ | gcc is notorious as a stability test |
| 16:47.51 | *** join/#debian StylusEater_work (~StylusEat@208.68.193.199) |
| 16:48.21 | *** join/#debian MrLee (~lee@2001:8b0:ffb3:0:215:58ff:fea4:ca67) |
| 16:48.25 | StylusEater_work | I'm unable to add a tap interface to a bridge using kvm. That's the error I get when I attempt to start the guest. Any pointers? |
| 16:48.26 | rvsjoen | thresh: I use a bunch of config files for wpa_supplicant, and guessnet to select the correct one based on where I am |
| 16:48.47 | rvsjoen | anyway, at least trying to configure it in interfaces will tell you if its a KNM problem |
| 16:48.54 | thresh | yes indeed. |
| 16:49.22 | *** join/#debian icebrain (~icebrain@gw-e-U-EdII.nat.fct.unl.pt) |
| 16:49.28 | *** join/#debian icebrain (~icebrain@gw-e-U-EdII.nat.fct.unl.pt) |
| 16:49.46 | StylusEater_work | I'm using "Solution 2: manual" at http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Networking. |
| 16:50.09 | *** join/#debian xtest (ident@raijin.elite.uk.com) |
| 16:50.13 | *** join/#debian km (~km@outbound-nat-134.vmware.com) |
| 16:50.44 | rvsjoen | styluseater_work: permissions ? |
| 16:50.55 | *** join/#debian mabu_ (~mabu@host168-2.natpool.mwn.de) |
| 16:50.56 | StylusEater_work | rvsjoen: of /dev/net/tun ? |
| 16:51.13 | *** join/#debian digitalmortici-1 (~digitalmo@84-73-223-25.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 16:51.18 | StylusEater_work | rvsjoen: 666 |
| 16:51.33 | rvsjoen | well, /dev/kvm according to that page |
| 16:51.55 | *** join/#debian YuK_Ota (~yuk_ota@p1107-ipbf01otsu.shiga.ocn.ne.jp) |
| 16:52.02 | StylusEater_work | rvsjoen: root:kvm ... 660 |
| 16:52.09 | StylusEater_work | rvsjoen: my user is part of kvm |
| 16:52.18 | *** join/#debian pngwn (pngwn@anonymous-205-167-97-238.broker.freenet6.net) |
| 16:52.29 | StylusEater_work | rvsjoen: errr... a member of the kvm group |
| 16:52.46 | *** join/#debian Zou_ (~princess@93.15.226.84) |
| 16:52.57 | *** join/#debian maximi89_ (~maximi89@98-95-20-190.adsl.terra.cl) |
| 16:53.10 | rvsjoen | styluseater_work: do you know where it fails ? |
| 16:53.13 | thresh | yeah, looks like NM is a pile of poop as it've always been |
| 16:53.23 | thresh | works fine when using /e/n/i |
| 16:53.33 | thresh | thanks! |
| 16:53.34 | StylusEater_work | rvsjoen: I've tried to look in the logs but there aren't any I can find |
| 16:53.35 | *** join/#debian loesh (~loesh@c-089172d5.026-72-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 16:53.50 | rvsjoen | styluseater_work: I assume it is when running that ifup-script ? |
| 16:54.02 | *** part/#debian thresh (~popa3d@videolan/developer/thresh) |
| 16:54.30 | StylusEater_work | rvsjoen: I believe so too but my user is able to sudo without pass and the script prepends sudo to each call |
| 16:54.43 | *** join/#debian OzoNe (~ragna@unaffiliated/ozone) |
| 16:54.56 | *** join/#debian m3tti (~m3tti@p57B7F606.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:55.34 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@20158134191.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 16:55.41 | *** join/#debian Blackdes1gn (henne@madoka.isw.student.khleuven.be) |
| 16:56.12 | *** join/#debian visof (~belal@41.238.234.175) |
| 16:56.32 | StylusEater_work | rvsjoen: http://pastebin.com/9sLgt2Gs |
| 16:56.41 | *** join/#debian hab-keinen-name (~hab-keine@86.56.20.177) |
| 16:56.53 | rvsjoen | styluseater_work: afaics, that script does 'set -x' so you should be able to see which commands fails |
| 16:56.59 | visof | hello |
| 16:57.12 | rvsjoen | or should that bet 'set +x' |
| 16:57.16 | rvsjoen | cant remember |
| 16:57.33 | visof | how can i use ssh to connect my second machine the same switch ? |
| 16:57.43 | visof | i installed ssh in both machines |
| 16:57.51 | rvsjoen | visof: ssh <ip> ? |
| 16:57.53 | visof | ssh <ip> |
| 16:58.06 | visof | refused the connection on port 22 |
| 16:58.21 | Titan8990 | visof: that likely means you only installed the ssh clients, not the server |
| 16:58.22 | StylusEater_work | rvsjoen: brb |
| 16:58.35 | Titan8990 | visof: or there is a firewall blocking the connection |
| 16:58.35 | klync | visof: then the destination machine (the switch?) is not listening .... what Titan8990 said |
| 16:58.49 | visof | ok |
| 16:58.52 | visof | let's try |
| 16:59.05 | rvsjoen | does the server start automagically after install ? |
| 16:59.10 | Titan8990 | rvsjoen: yes |
| 16:59.45 | wols_ | rvsjoen: if you install the server, yes. you will know if you have installed it, it generates a ssh key |
| 17:00.04 | *** join/#debian andres833 (~andres833@190.144.75.22) |
| 17:00.08 | wols_ | and one can check if the server runs: netstat -anp |grep 22 |
| 17:00.29 | *** join/#debian hakunamatata (~user@dyndsl-085-016-232-105.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 17:00.36 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 17:01.05 | *** join/#debian loesh (~loesh@c-089172d5.026-72-73746f3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 17:01.30 | visof | Titan8990 klync rvsjoen now working and required the password for visof@192.168.1.6 |
| 17:01.49 | visof | should i give it the password of host session ? |
| 17:02.04 | Titan8990 | visof: you get it the password of the user visof on the machine your connecting to |
| 17:02.09 | visof | the password of the 192.168.1.6 account |
| 17:02.10 | wols_ | you should give the password of the user visof on host 192.168.1.6 |
| 17:02.31 | *** join/#debian Dewi (~dewi@124-171-198-126.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 17:02.47 | *** join/#debian matt1 (~ketsa@adsl-62-167-94-198.adslplus.ch) |
| 17:02.57 | visof | there is no account with name visof at this machine , it's should ? |
| 17:03.22 | *** join/#debian jwaters (~watersj@world.timcogso.com) |
| 17:03.24 | Titan8990 | visof: then you have to specify the name of the account you want to use |
| 17:03.31 | *** join/#debian oblu (~oblu@ip-89-103-168-220.karneval.cz) |
| 17:03.36 | Titan8990 | visof: example: `ssh myuser@192.168.1.6` |
| 17:03.50 | jwaters | with squid proxy, how do i bypass redirector for certain sites? |
| 17:03.52 | visof | ok |
| 17:03.56 | visof | let's try |
| 17:04.07 | *** join/#debian Shaytan (~eric@c-13bfe355.025-19-73746f29.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 17:04.44 | *** join/#debian gnusosa (~ron@unaffiliated/gnusosa) |
| 17:04.51 | Titan8990 | jwaters: squid has its own channel |
| 17:05.15 | jwaters | Titan8990, i know, hoping i might actual get a response |
| 17:07.58 | *** join/#debian charzero (~stephen@rrcs-208-105-197-153.nys.biz.rr.com) |
| 17:09.19 | *** join/#debian kaziem (~devnull@159.23.106.243) |
| 17:09.37 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@99-196-115-143.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 17:09.59 | klync | is there any way to tell the actual mobo model without opening the case? |
| 17:10.32 | *** join/#debian debz (~deb@deb.etaligent.net) |
| 17:10.32 | rvsjoen | klync: dmidecide |
| 17:10.40 | rvsjoen | dmidecode, sorry |
| 17:10.52 | klync | rvsjoen: thx .... just needed the "dmi" part to remember! :P |
| 17:11.11 | *** join/#debian oblu (~oblu@ip-89-103-168-220.karneval.cz) |
| 17:11.23 | hile | lshw tells interesting stuff as well |
| 17:11.30 | *** join/#debian edo1493 (~edo1493@dynamic-adsl-94-37-50-211.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 17:12.07 | hile | not installed by default, though |
| 17:12.30 | rvsjoen | as does hwinfo |
| 17:12.45 | klync | hile: actually, neither is installed on any of the 3 machines i'm comparing :/ |
| 17:12.50 | *** join/#debian buntfalke (~nobody@unaffiliated/buntfalke) |
| 17:13.00 | Titan8990 | dmidecode is also nice |
| 17:13.03 | *** join/#debian comradekingu (~comradeki@188.113.124.49) |
| 17:13.07 | Titan8990 | !install it |
| 17:13.07 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
| 17:13.28 | klync | thanks Titan8990 .... great idea! |
| 17:14.44 | *** join/#debian edo1493 (~edo1493@fsf/member/edo1493) |
| 17:14.53 | *** join/#debian ycas (~yann@85-127-76-193.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 17:16.09 | nkuttler | hm, what do i need to do to enable php5-curl in lighttpd with fcgi? |
| 17:16.24 | *** join/#debian Gilde (~Gilde@dslb-092-076-138-178.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 17:16.47 | *** join/#debian ukl (~ukl@f053126056.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 17:17.21 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@99-196-115-143.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 17:17.51 | *** join/#debian sepult (~user@xdsl-87-78-173-237.netcologne.de) |
| 17:18.10 | *** join/#debian mfrisch (~mfrisch@207.246.9.100) |
| 17:18.23 | StylusEater_work | rvsjoen: the ifup script doesn't seem to be running |
| 17:18.35 | mfrisch | Hey abrotman! |
| 17:19.00 | mfrisch | abrotman you in offtopic? |
| 17:19.35 | Titan8990 | !kvm |
| 17:19.35 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, kvm is kernel virtual memory, or keyboard/video/mouse. Kernel-based Virtual Machine, packaged for Debian as kvm in Lenny, qemu-kvm in Squeeze; see http://wiki.debian.org/KVM for installation instructions. Also ask me about <xve>. http://www.linux-kvm.org/ #kvm on irc.freenode.net. See also <virtualization>. |
| 17:19.51 | Titan8990 | StylusEater_work: there is some debian specific documentation on the wiki |
| 17:19.53 | *** join/#debian Blackdesign (henne@madoka.isw.student.khleuven.be) |
| 17:20.07 | mfrisch | When is the freeze for Lenny?? |
| 17:20.13 | StylusEater_work | Titan8990: I believe I tried that but can you forward the link in case? |
| 17:20.34 | ukl | Hello. I'm kind of confused about something general regarding libraries and includes... I've got some library, built on my own, installed with prefix $HOME -- Now I want another project find these headers and .so libs. I thought using configure --with-prefix=$HOME made the configure script look for something there, was well... doesn't it? Or have I messed something up with telling the configure.ac-script to look for these libs/headers? I don't know w |
| 17:20.54 | *** join/#debian Alam_Squeeze (quasselcor@mono.lawarias.srb2.org) |
| 17:21.47 | StylusEater_work | ukl: I believe prefix is usually for prefix the install commands with a destination dir... for libraries I think you want to adjust LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 17:22.02 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.76) |
| 17:22.42 | ukl | StylusEater_work: LD_LIBRARY_PATH is adjusted, the configure-output (after having run autoreconf) just says 'no' after "checking for my-lib..." |
| 17:22.45 | StylusEater_work | ukl: for instance... LD_LIBRARY_PATH='path_to_extra_libs':$LD_LIBRARY_PATH ./configure ... should work I think |
| 17:23.42 | StylusEater_work | ukl: try to do this in the source dir... ./configure --help |
| 17:23.58 | StylusEater_work | ukl: under Optional Packages |
| 17:24.13 | ukl | well, it seems like I don't understand the configure.ac script of this guy... |
| 17:24.33 | themill | mfrisch: about 18 months ago. You might want to "/msg dpkg wwsr" though |
| 17:24.47 | StylusEater_work | ukl: looks like --includedir= ... will help you include headers in another directory |
| 17:24.58 | ukl | StylusEater_work: I wasn't clear, I want to add some functionality to the project that's why I added this lib to the project's list of requirements |
| 17:25.36 | *** join/#debian riomare1 (~rio1@93-103-94-70.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) |
| 17:25.37 | ukl | includedir's default value is fine for me (PREFIX/include) |
| 17:25.37 | mfrisch | themill I didn't mean lenny ;-) |
| 17:25.43 | *** join/#debian Droolio (~drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 17:25.44 | StylusEater_work | ukl: ah |
| 17:25.57 | StylusEater_work | ukl: would --libdir= help? |
| 17:26.02 | ukl | sorry gtg, thanks for your help |
| 17:26.22 | *** join/#debian Eren (~eren@unaffiliated/eren) |
| 17:27.08 | *** join/#debian riomare11 (~rio1@93-103-94-70.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net) |
| 17:27.36 | *** join/#debian dinya (Denis@94.180.68.219) |
| 17:28.35 | lucascarvalho | is there anyone which could help me with .deb package creation? |
| 17:28.47 | *** join/#debian iKs (~iks@128.220.159.20) |
| 17:28.50 | *** join/#debian Spr3ng (1@g229145184.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 17:29.36 | Titan8990 | !maint guide |
| 17:29.50 | *** join/#debian DyDre (1@g229145184.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 17:29.54 | *** join/#debian nssy (~nssy@196.201.208.194) |
| 17:30.29 | *** join/#debian sysrqalt (~sysrqalt@75-135-76-28.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 17:30.43 | Titan8990 | lucascarvalho: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ |
| 17:30.59 | wildc4rd | evening all |
| 17:31.00 | Titan8990 | ah, found it |
| 17:31.02 | Titan8990 | !maint-guide |
| 17:31.03 | dpkg | A simple packaging walkthrough can be found by (as root) "apt-get install maint-guide" and then (as user) "www-browser /usr/share/doc/maint-guide/maint-guide.en.html/index.html" (or http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ online). Also ask me about <nmg>. 'Mg' is also the chemical symbol for magnesium, or may mean Madagascar. |
| 17:31.15 | *** join/#debian raz0 (~raz0@x1-6-00-18-4d-e8-79-94.k687.webspeed.dk) |
| 17:31.36 | *** join/#debian oblu (~oblu@ip-89-103-168-220.karneval.cz) |
| 17:32.21 | mezgani | hello |
| 17:32.26 | mezgani | when i insert a modem |
| 17:32.41 | mezgani | udev did not create the /dev/ttyACM |
| 17:33.15 | *** join/#debian icebrain (~icebrain@gw-e-U-EdVII.nat.fct.unl.pt) |
| 17:33.22 | *** join/#debian HackeMate (~HackeMate@171.Red-88-19-198.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:33.41 | mezgani | even in messages log file i have cdc_acm: v0.26:USB Abstract Control Model driver for USB modems and ISDN adapters |
| 17:34.06 | *** join/#debian desti (~desti@TL-224-192.fernuni-hagen.de) |
| 17:34.07 | Titan8990 | mezgani: lspci -nn |
| 17:34.26 | *** join/#debian MrLee_Work (~Top@82.151.225.30.adsl.griffin.net.uk) |
| 17:34.50 | Titan8990 | mezgani: oh, usb, sorry |
| 17:35.10 | *** join/#debian fantasticulous (~frog@85.122.81.58) |
| 17:35.17 | mezgani | i'm talking about phone |
| 17:35.19 | mezgani | Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0421:00f1 Nokia Mobile Phones |
| 17:35.33 | *** join/#debian AimHere (~bod@host86-151-76-191.range86-151.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:35.52 | *** join/#debian Dynlex (1@g229145184.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 17:36.03 | Titan8990 | judd: pciid 0421:00f1 |
| 17:36.04 | judd | [0421:00f1] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in lenny or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=0421:00f1 |
| 17:36.12 | *** join/#debian HackeMate (~HackeMate@171.Red-88-19-198.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:36.21 | *** join/#debian DanDare (~DanDare@189.59.161.159) |
| 17:36.30 | themill | usb != pci |
| 17:36.32 | *** join/#debian atomiku (~atomiku@unaffiliated/atomiku) |
| 17:36.34 | mezgani | http://fpaste.org/AI4w/ |
| 17:36.51 | Titan8990 | themill: right... judd doesn't lookup usb ids does it? |
| 17:37.09 | themill | Titan8990: not yet... abrotman was going to find decent data sources first :) |
| 17:39.00 | mezgani | judd: pciid 02:08.0 |
| 17:39.20 | *** join/#debian ishady (~ninja@59.95.65.82) |
| 17:39.27 | *** join/#debian osfd (~olivier@rke75-8-78-225-170-15.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:39.36 | wols_ | mezgani: that's no pci id. it's sort of a pci address |
| 17:39.56 | wols_ | 10ec:8168 is a pci id. do a lspci -nn |
| 17:40.15 | mezgani | ah ok |
| 17:40.41 | mezgani | judd: pciid 8086:27dc |
| 17:40.42 | judd | [8086:27dc] is '82801G (ICH7 Family) LAN Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel module 'e100' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:27dc |
| 17:41.36 | mezgani | wols_, thanks |
| 17:41.44 | mezgani | so how can i tolk to my phone |
| 17:41.54 | mezgani | i wanna use minicom |
| 17:42.05 | *** join/#debian karrotx (~admin@unaffiliated/karrotx) |
| 17:42.06 | wols_ | depends on the phone. and fix your enter key |
| 17:42.11 | mezgani | but no interface to talk with |
| 17:42.13 | *** part/#debian StylusEater_work (~StylusEat@208.68.193.199) |
| 17:42.25 | karrotx | what to do when you can't mount because of a bad superblock and you've tried fsck.ext3 -b with all of the other known superblocks? |
| 17:42.50 | wols_ | mezgani: minicom suggests a serial interface |
| 17:42.55 | Titan8990 | karrotx: are you certain the drive is ext3? |
| 17:43.09 | *** part/#debian mezgani (~Handrix@wana-94-229-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 17:43.12 | *** join/#debian mezgani (~Handrix@wana-94-229-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 17:43.14 | mezgani | yes |
| 17:43.16 | karrotx | Titan8990: positive |
| 17:43.27 | mezgani | ok, i'm back |
| 17:44.09 | *** join/#debian rgr (foobar@85.183.18.158) |
| 17:45.16 | *** join/#debian Blackdes1gn (henne@madoka.isw.student.khleuven.be) |
| 17:46.06 | Titan8990 | karrotx: afaik, reformat and restore from backup |
| 17:46.24 | karrotx | Titan8990: this is the backup array |
| 17:47.28 | Titan8990 | karrotx: did it occur after adding a new drive to the array? |
| 17:47.48 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 17:47.51 | karrotx | Titan8990: no; multiple power outages in the past few months |
| 17:48.14 | karrotx | had one on sunday morning, the backups ran the night before - no servers went down |
| 17:48.17 | karrotx | which is the strange part |
| 17:48.42 | *** join/#debian _anonymouse (~Scrooge_M@118.94.134.187) |
| 17:49.52 | *** join/#debian jazz (~rev_jazz_@vaala.mine.nu) |
| 17:50.10 | Titan8990 | karrotx: fsck.ext3 -b is the only fix that I know aside from restoring from a backup... |
| 17:50.36 | karrotx | right, i've ran mke2fs -j -l /dev/sdb1 and checked all of the superblock backups |
| 17:50.39 | karrotx | they all give the same error |
| 17:50.42 | *** join/#debian manicman (~manicman@unaffiliated/manicman) |
| 17:50.44 | Titan8990 | karrotx: you should consider investing in a UPS |
| 17:50.58 | karrotx | it's on a ups; like i said, no other machines in the rack went down |
| 17:51.05 | *** join/#debian fishsponge__ (~fishspong@212.44.16.158) |
| 17:51.17 | abrotman | themill: i think i found them .. but didn't dig far enough to see where the application gets its data from |
| 17:51.24 | karrotx | the east coast was hit with a massive blizzard a few weeks ago and our generator refused to kick over - that was the last power outage the servers experienced |
| 17:51.34 | karrotx | somehow this thing crapped out when everything else stayed up |
| 17:52.21 | *** join/#debian rgr (foobar@85.183.18.158) |
| 17:53.06 | *** join/#debian SJR_ (~slackjr@c951ae2b.virtua.com.br) |
| 17:53.31 | *** join/#debian oblu (~oblu@ip-89-103-168-220.karneval.cz) |
| 17:54.11 | *** join/#debian careta (~botto@134.219.139.219) |
| 17:55.22 | *** join/#debian careta (~botto@134.219.139.219) |
| 17:55.32 | *** join/#debian ascendant (~chris@75.111.164.34) |
| 17:56.03 | *** part/#debian ascendant (~chris@75.111.164.34) |
| 17:56.17 | *** join/#debian Batchy (~batchy@AVelizy-155-1-47-15.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:56.38 | *** join/#debian ascendant (~chris@75.111.164.34) |
| 17:57.06 | *** join/#debian obcecado (~ob@cr-217-129-224-69.netvisao.pt) |
| 17:57.16 | ascendant | hello, i am trying to install ncurses, but am greeted with Package ncurses is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 17:57.16 | ascendant | E: Package ncurses has no installation candidate |
| 17:57.35 | ascendant | i'm a debian noob, but i need to add another repository |
| 17:57.42 | ascendant | or options for existing repos |
| 17:57.47 | ascendant | i think i need* |
| 17:59.16 | amphi | ascendant: ncurses or ncurses headers? |
| 17:59.24 | ascendant | ncurses |
| 17:59.31 | ascendant | or at least the dependency for kernel configuration |
| 17:59.34 | amphi | ascendant: either way, apt-cache search libncurses should be of use |
| 17:59.35 | *** join/#debian The_Ball (~The_Ball@123-2-12-83.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) |
| 17:59.55 | ascendant | i'm too used to gentoo D: |
| 18:00.08 | amphi | ascendant: that is the ncurses -dev packaged |
| 18:00.11 | ascendant | yes, there is a libncurses5 |
| 18:00.22 | amphi | *package |
| 18:00.28 | *** join/#debian K0JIbKA (~nikobit@81.91.189.3) |
| 18:00.36 | ascendant | i see ncurses-base ncurses-bin ncurses-hexedit ncurses-term |
| 18:00.46 | ascendant | no ncurses-dev |
| 18:01.08 | ascendant | there's also a libncurses5-dev |
| 18:01.19 | wols_ | bingo |
| 18:01.23 | ascendant | that one? |
| 18:01.42 | ascendant | wow 13 mb |
| 18:01.48 | Titan8990 | ascendant: aptitude show libncurses5-dev |
| 18:02.13 | *** join/#debian nhandler_ (~nhandler@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nhandler) |
| 18:02.31 | *** join/#debian user__ (~user@dyndsl-085-016-232-105.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 18:02.32 | ascendant | well that worked |
| 18:02.33 | ascendant | cool |
| 18:02.37 | ascendant | debian is weird |
| 18:02.43 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@93.9.34.10) |
| 18:02.45 | DipSwitch | no it's not :p |
| 18:02.46 | Titan8990 | ascendant: not really |
| 18:02.58 | ascendant | lol, either that or gentoo is weird :P |
| 18:03.06 | Titan8990 | ascendant: and it sounds like your going to try enforce your gentoo methodologys on it as much as possible |
| 18:03.11 | *** join/#debian oblu (~oblu@ip-89-103-168-220.karneval.cz) |
| 18:03.12 | Titan8990 | ascendant: gentoo is unique..... |
| 18:03.21 | ascendant | i definitely like emerge and portage |
| 18:03.38 | *** join/#debian sunny_s (~sunny_s@mm-135-254-57-86.leased.line.mgts.by) |
| 18:03.40 | ascendant | but they don't run on 64 mb of ram D: |
| 18:03.41 | Titan8990 | ascendant: thats much more similar to the ports system on freebsd than other linux package managers |
| 18:03.55 | *** join/#debian ia (~ia@89.169.161.244) |
| 18:04.06 | *** join/#debian ghostman (~ray-kde@HSI-KBW-078-043-171-029.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 18:04.44 | wols_ | ascendant: of course it does run in 64MB RAM |
| 18:05.00 | DipSwitch | I have a Ralink 2870 here, but the firmware-ralink is not compatible with the default kernel that comes with sid... any solutions? |
| 18:05.26 | DipSwitch | would it be possible to get the latest firmware source for example? ^^ |
| 18:05.33 | *** join/#debian Zaidwi (~Zaidwi@41.250.97.32) |
| 18:05.48 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@p5DCF05B7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:05.49 | Titan8990 | DipSwitch: check the BTS, sid is not really supported here |
| 18:06.09 | DipSwitch | oke oke ^^ |
| 18:06.16 | wols_ | DipSwitch: you did what /msg rt2800 says? |
| 18:07.03 | DipSwitch | wols_: who is rt2800? :p |
| 18:07.08 | DipSwitch | !rt2800 |
| 18:07.09 | dpkg | For support of Ralink 802.11n wireless LAN devices, ask me about <rt2860sta> (PCI), <rt2870sta> (USB) or <rt2800usb>. |
| 18:07.12 | JPT | a wifi network chipset^^ |
| 18:07.17 | DipSwitch | yeah i know :p |
| 18:07.27 | JPT | the latest kernel should support it |
| 18:07.32 | Titan8990 | DipSwitch: that an alfa you have? |
| 18:07.38 | DipSwitch | yeah |
| 18:07.47 | DipSwitch | rt2870sta module loads |
| 18:08.03 | Titan8990 | won't work w/o the firmware though |
| 18:08.05 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~SkG@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) |
| 18:08.19 | DipSwitch | but firmware which comes with de sid repository isn't compatible |
| 18:08.25 | DipSwitch | o rly? that sucks :/ |
| 18:09.37 | *** join/#debian HarryS (H@ipv6.harryy.us) |
| 18:09.42 | DipSwitch | i'll check bts |
| 18:10.12 | *** join/#debian tranc2234 (~PircBot@70-36-140-21.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) |
| 18:10.36 | Titan8990 | DipSwitch: not uncommon for things in sid to be broken and it should be used purely to do software testing for debian imo |
| 18:11.05 | wols_ | Titan8990: nah. it's the best game debian has. nowhere can you get that much adrenaline and entertainment |
| 18:11.19 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 18:11.25 | DipSwitch | lol fair wols_ :p |
| 18:13.35 | Titan8990 | wols_: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS in gentoo would actually be a much more intense ride :) |
| 18:13.40 | *** join/#debian jhutchins_wk (~jonathan@rrcs-24-123-100-82.central.biz.rr.com) |
| 18:14.12 | *** join/#debian SoulSeller (ss@unaffiliated/soulseller) |
| 18:14.34 | DipSwitch | make install |
| 18:14.40 | DipSwitch | ow sorry ^^ |
| 18:15.04 | wols_ | DipSwitch: generally, you don't want to make install on debian. if you do, you did something wrong beforehand :) |
| 18:15.19 | *** join/#debian Matic`Makovec (~biggi_mat@193.2.116.180) |
| 18:15.27 | *** join/#debian muh2000 (~muh2000@unaffiliated/muh2000) |
| 18:15.29 | DipSwitch | mainline kernel ^^ |
| 18:16.14 | wols_ | DipSwitch: then you failed spectacularly. you should go in a corner for the rest of the week |
| 18:16.22 | wols_ | DipSwitch: after that, check out kernel-package |
| 18:16.52 | *** join/#debian jubesz (~jubesz@cpe-70-113-60-22.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 18:17.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 904] by debhelper |
| 18:17.13 | *** part/#debian jubesz (~jubesz@cpe-70-113-60-22.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 18:17.22 | ponyofdeath | hi guys anyone know of a good alternative to imgur image sharing for an local internal net? |
| 18:17.28 | dutchfish | !kp-mantra |
| 18:17.28 | dpkg | kp mantra is probably make-kpkg clean ; export VER=$(date +'%Y%m%d') NAMEEXT="-$(hostname)-$(dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH)"; make-kpkg --revision=$VER --append-to-version=$NAMEEXT --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image . Add --initrd before kernel_image if you need an <initrd>. |
| 18:18.13 | *** join/#debian brodul_ (~brodul@89.143.223.18) |
| 18:18.58 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@93.9.34.10) |
| 18:19.09 | DipSwitch | wols_: will give it a look although it always worked in the past ^^ |
| 18:19.38 | *** join/#debian TheOnly (~theonly@cpc12-sgyl29-2-0-cust6.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 18:20.03 | wols_ | of course it works, but kp is about ten magnitudes better |
| 18:20.28 | *** join/#debian tarzeau (sengun@krum.ethz.ch) |
| 18:20.32 | tarzeau | sucks that gimp , openoffice and gnustep font selectors don't sort the font weights |
| 18:20.36 | DipSwitch | would it be possible to create your own .config etc with kp? |
| 18:21.00 | wols_ | DipSwitch: kp is for creating a .deb frm your kernel source. that's all |
| 18:21.17 | wols_ | but that's enough. you confiure it like always. but if you had read the docs, you'd know |
| 18:22.04 | DipSwitch | hehe will read it later this night thanks for your input |
| 18:22.58 | DipSwitch | atleased my alfa works in 2.6.32-9 \o/ |
| 18:23.11 | *** join/#debian suffe (~nicknill@c-82-209-143-81.cust.bredband2.com) |
| 18:23.36 | DipSwitch | not 100% though i see |
| 18:23.45 | *** join/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@141-189-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 18:24.06 | *** join/#debian likevinyl (~mikeriver@190.55.43.24) |
| 18:25.05 | jelly | -9? |
| 18:25.10 | jelly | judd: kernels |
| 18:25.12 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 2.6.32-2-686 (2.6.32-8); squeeze: 2.6.32-trunk-686 (2.6.32-5); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.2-vserver-686 (2.6.32-8~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-21lenny3); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch1); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 18:25.20 | jelly | judd: kernels --arch amd64 |
| 18:25.22 | judd | (kernels [--release <lenny>]) -- Outputs the kernel versions in the archive, optionally restricted to one release. Note that semi-major releases like etchnhalf are treated as separate releases. |
| 18:26.22 | *** join/#debian d3so0s (~slryip@d54C1C750.access.telenet.be) |
| 18:26.41 | *** join/#debian oru_work (~Boevik@ool-4b7f8ec4.static.optonline.net) |
| 18:26.43 | oru_work | does anyone know the location of the configuration file that defines log rotation for mail.log postfix/dovecot in ubuntu 8.10 ? I checked /etc/logrotate.d/ and its not there |
| 18:26.56 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 18:27.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 898] by debhelper |
| 18:27.01 | *** join/#debian gagaman (~forth@HSI-KBW-078-043-171-029.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 18:27.14 | mobidev | ĆĀ²ĆĀĆĀµĆĀ
ĆĀ ĆĀæĆĀĆĀ°ĆĀ·ĆĀ“ĆĀ½ĆĀøĆĀŗĆĀ¾ĆĀ¼ |
| 18:27.34 | psychik | in syslog conf oru_work |
| 18:27.35 | *** join/#debian nhandler (~nhandler@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nhandler) |
| 18:28.10 | oru_work | psychik, /etc/syslog.conf ? |
| 18:28.37 | psychik | if not here , nearly this place |
| 18:28.49 | psychik | dont remember ex&actly where he is |
| 18:28.58 | psychik | elst , locate syslog |
| 18:29.09 | cahoot | oru_work: they probably know for sure in #ubuntu |
| 18:29.10 | *** join/#debian none (~km@dsl081-072-059.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 18:29.11 | *** join/#debian Bry-Dog (~Bry-Dog@CPE001d7ec60a22-CM0019477f35f4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 18:29.37 | *** join/#debian raz0 (~raz0@x1-6-00-18-4d-e8-79-94.k687.webspeed.dk) |
| 18:29.56 | *** join/#debian Glebelg (~Glebelg@unaffiliated/glebelg) |
| 18:31.03 | jelly | oru_work: ask #ubuntu. If it were Debian, mail.log would be handled in the appropriate /etc/logrotate.d/*syslog* file |
| 18:31.15 | *** join/#debian The_Ball (~The_Ball@123-2-12-83.static.dsl.dodo.com.au) |
| 18:31.19 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@93.9.34.10) |
| 18:31.31 | oru_work | jelly, yeah i have /etc/syslog.conf |
| 18:31.43 | *** join/#debian vvor (~vvor@bzq-79-178-36-245.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 18:31.44 | jelly | oru_work: I didn't say anything about /etc/syslog.conf |
| 18:32.32 | *** join/#debian Bryanstein (bryan@free.psybnc.and.eggdrop.at.shellium.org) |
| 18:32.36 | *** join/#debian gorthaug (~gorthaug@131.30.218.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 18:33.47 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~SkG@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) |
| 18:34.08 | *** join/#debian d3so0s (~slryip@d54C1C750.access.telenet.be) |
| 18:34.25 | *** join/#debian goksin (~goksin@88.229.147.193) |
| 18:35.14 | d3so0s | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:35.27 | wols_ | you better set a new password now |
| 18:35.33 | psychik | +1 |
| 18:35.42 | wols_ | and show your client how to auto identify on connection |
| 18:35.50 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@secure.dreampark.se) |
| 18:36.07 | DipSwitch | lol |
| 18:37.07 | *** join/#debian m3rc05m1 (~matt@207.47.140.220) |
| 18:37.15 | *** join/#debian pascal_ (~quassel@maginot.pagali.net) |
| 18:38.26 | *** join/#debian Lns (~lns@pdpc/supporter/professional/lns) |
| 18:38.37 | *** join/#debian d3so0s (~slryip@d54C1C750.access.telenet.be) |
| 18:39.23 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@84.28.246.30) |
| 18:39.49 | *** join/#debian d3so0s (~slryip@d54C1C750.access.telenet.be) |
| 18:41.16 | DipSwitch | * goksin (~goksin@88.229.147.193) has joined #debian |
| 18:41.16 | DipSwitch | <d3so0s> /msg nickserv identify anne21 |
| 18:41.22 | DipSwitch | ahh fack |
| 18:41.38 | DipSwitch | wanted to pm that to :/ |
| 18:42.04 | goksin | DipSwitch: No problem |
| 18:42.06 | *** part/#debian gagaman (~forth@HSI-KBW-078-043-171-029.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 18:43.12 | *** join/#debian action09 (~action09@unaffiliated/action09) |
| 18:44.42 | *** join/#debian flower (~d@cc305009-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) |
| 18:45.26 | *** join/#debian ghostman (~forth@HSI-KBW-078-043-171-029.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 18:45.38 | *** part/#debian wohnout (~wohnout@mail.lesprojekt.cz) |
| 18:45.54 | *** join/#debian omry_|work (~omry@DSL212-235-83-63.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 18:48.02 | *** join/#debian pierreghz (~pierre@cust-207-29-111-94.dyn.as47377.net) |
| 18:48.37 | *** part/#debian DuClare (duclare@freenet/Freetalk/developer/DuClare) |
| 18:48.42 | *** join/#debian DuClare (duclare@freenet/Freetalk/developer/DuClare) |
| 18:48.47 | *** join/#debian mod4fh (~slryip@d54C1C750.access.telenet.be) |
| 18:49.13 | *** join/#debian mod4fh (~slryip@d54C1C750.access.telenet.be) |
| 18:49.38 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 18:51.06 | *** join/#debian flippppp (~flip@p5B3D7415.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:52.24 | ketsa | that nickserv stuff looks very safe... |
| 18:52.24 | karrotx | how do reset the hostname in debian? |
| 18:52.37 | *** join/#debian paja (~paja@ip-89-103-132-159.karneval.cz) |
| 18:53.04 | abrotman | !tell karrotx about hostname |
| 18:55.12 | *** join/#debian bittin (~bittin@unaffiliated/bittin) |
| 18:55.35 | *** join/#debian nssy (~nssy@196.201.217.234) |
| 18:55.42 | *** join/#debian pierreghz (~pierre@cust-207-29-111-94.dyn.as47377.net) |
| 18:55.49 | *** part/#debian DuClare (duclare@freenet/Freetalk/developer/DuClare) |
| 18:56.10 | *** join/#debian raccoon_ (kchr@omnitron.technopragmatics.org) |
| 18:56.34 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@s83-191-241-142.cust.tele2.se) |
| 18:56.53 | raccoon_ | hey |
| 18:57.15 | raccoon_ | does anyone know where the selected release and apt mirror gets saved during a floppy based netinstall? |
| 18:57.36 | raccoon_ | i chose "unstable" but got all kinds of error messages from the mirrors, so i would like to change to stable/testing instead. |
| 18:58.53 | *** join/#debian KY (~ky@32.138.234.147) |
| 19:00.12 | KY | hey everyone |
| 19:00.16 | *** part/#debian ascendant (~chris@75.111.164.34) |
| 19:00.26 | jelly | raccoon_: are you for real? |
| 19:00.30 | *** join/#debian kokkafasas (~myself@host157-126-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 19:01.43 | *** join/#debian trbs (~trbs@82-169-23-132.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 19:01.54 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@r2r157.net.upc.cz) |
| 19:02.25 | *** join/#debian bittin_ (~bittin@c213-100-111-27.swipnet.se) |
| 19:02.40 | *** join/#debian Kryll (~terry@c-68-58-93-24.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 19:02.58 | *** join/#debian wertik_rus (~wertik@95-26-63-58.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 19:04.03 | *** join/#debian kaziem (~devnull@26.252.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 19:04.11 | KY | I have a desktop computer that is acting like a server right now. I would want to use it as a Virtual Host for 2003EnterpriseRC2 and NT4. What Distro would you guys say would be the right one for me? |
| 19:04.41 | *** join/#debian contrains (~contrains@dsl001-161-007.stl1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 19:05.02 | raccoon_ | jelly: most of the time, yeah |
| 19:05.06 | Titan8990 | KY: ##linux for those kind of questions |
| 19:05.18 | wols_ | KY: in here, there is only one answer for that |
| 19:05.21 | *** join/#debian pierre_le (~pierre@79.80.255.136) |
| 19:05.22 | Titan8990 | KY: otherwise the answer is of course, always debian |
| 19:05.27 | *** join/#debian km (~km@outbound-nat-134.vmware.com) |
| 19:05.34 | *** join/#debian ser (~ser@sergiusz.pawlowicz.name) |
| 19:05.52 | Titan8990 | KY: but im going to go bold and say... neither... vmware esxi |
| 19:06.10 | *** join/#debian Sitem (~yuijin@85.108.193.251) |
| 19:06.15 | jelly | would support Titan8990's choice |
| 19:06.29 | raccoon_ | jelly: eh, i guess my question sounded more stupid than i meant. the problem is that the netinstaller asks me for which release to fetch installer components from. i chose unstable, and apt complains about my mirrors being incompatible with currently selected release. |
| 19:06.34 | KY | well I'm doing research. what is the reasoning titan? |
| 19:07.11 | *** part/#debian Sitem (~yuijin@85.108.193.251) |
| 19:07.30 | raccoon_ | jelly: but it seems that the installer only asks me for release the first time. the release selection dialog does not show again |
| 19:07.35 | Titan8990 | KY: email vmware, they will tell you 100 ways their software is better and force webinars down your throat until you know no other virtualization outside of vmware |
| 19:07.45 | *** join/#debian Ox4e65744563686f (~NetEcho@unaffiliated/netecho) |
| 19:07.57 | wols_ | KY: we don't do distro selection advice. we only do technical problems when you actually run debian |
| 19:08.04 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@20158134191.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 19:08.15 | Titan8990 | KY: that was somewhat sarcastic btw... what wols_ said |
| 19:08.18 | *** join/#debian Neo_The_User (~matrix@unaffiliated/neo-the-user/x-4616945) |
| 19:08.30 | *** join/#debian m2rt (~chatzilla@62.65.211.254.cable.starman.ee) |
| 19:08.32 | abrotman | or trying to install debian |
| 19:08.38 | dkr | !tell KY about why debian |
| 19:08.39 | *** part/#debian m2rt (~chatzilla@62.65.211.254.cable.starman.ee) |
| 19:08.47 | *** join/#debian GhostInTheShell (~melkor@client-136-96.speedy-net.bg) |
| 19:08.47 | *** join/#debian Blues-Man (~bluesman@host62-80-dynamic.37-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 19:08.49 | Blues-Man | hi all |
| 19:08.55 | Neo_The_User | hello |
| 19:08.58 | KY | sorry. I just though if i came to a support section i would be able to more answers |
| 19:08.59 | Neo_The_User | how are you? |
| 19:09.06 | Blues-Man | is possible to check if a debian package is for 64 or 32 bit? |
| 19:09.16 | abrotman | Blues-Man: without installing it? |
| 19:09.20 | Blues-Man | yes |
| 19:09.23 | AimHere | Doesn't the name of the file tell you? |
| 19:09.25 | *** join/#debian pierreghz (~pierre@cust-207-29-111-94.dyn.as47377.net) |
| 19:09.45 | abrotman | Blues-Man: dpkg -I |
| 19:10.10 | Blues-Man | well the problem is that i compiled a kernel for a 32 bit machine from a 64 one with fakeroot etc but the deb suffix is _amd64.deb |
| 19:10.18 | AimHere | If it ends in _amd64.deb, it's 64-bit. If it ends in _x64.deb, it's 32-bit. If it ends in _all.deb, it's either-or |
| 19:10.27 | Blues-Man | oh |
| 19:10.33 | *** join/#debian idebug (~hans@office.languagejobsoffice.com) |
| 19:10.34 | Blues-Man | cause i did make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --cross-compile - --arch i386 kernel_image |
| 19:10.35 | Neo_The_User | _x64? |
| 19:10.42 | AimHere | x86 |
| 19:10.43 | idebug | how does one get logrotate to execute firstaction or prerotate, even if there are no logs to rotate? |
| 19:10.46 | Neo_The_User | oh. |
| 19:10.51 | Blues-Man | so i though i missed only a setting in the same |
| 19:11.03 | *** join/#debian peleg (~peleg@bzq-109-65-13-104.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 19:11.06 | dkr | idebug: ignoremissing or allowmissing, something like that |
| 19:11.15 | lsd | idebug, hm, maybe take out "notifempty" and use "emptyok" or something |
| 19:11.19 | KY | Thank you for your help though dkr and evryone else. ^^ |
| 19:11.23 | *** part/#debian KY (~ky@32.138.234.147) |
| 19:12.03 | idebug | lsd: mmm, i dont think that would work, because if no files exist, its not exactly empty? im not sure, but doesn't seem likely |
| 19:12.05 | Neo_The_User | where can I see the patch source made by the debian development team, their configure line, and CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS they may have modified? |
| 19:12.23 | dkr | or a combination of our two answers: missingok hah |
| 19:12.24 | lsd | idebug, could always test with logrotate -f |
| 19:12.26 | abrotman | Neo_The_User: get the source package .. take it apart |
| 19:12.31 | lsd | yes, missingok was it :D |
| 19:12.35 | *** join/#debian dwar (~dwar@c83-248-84-154.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 19:12.52 | Neo_The_User | there isnt a source package for everything though, right? |
| 19:13.16 | peterrooney | Neo_The_User: for all debian free packages, yes. |
| 19:13.18 | idebug | dkr: seems like a possibility. i'll test it, tho isnt the intention of that that a file can disappear and it wont err? |
| 19:13.32 | Neo_The_User | where could I find them? |
| 19:13.45 | Neo_The_User | like for _all_ the free ones. |
| 19:13.50 | *** join/#debian zleap (~zleap3@dsl-217-155-46-222.zen.co.uk) |
| 19:13.51 | peterrooney | Neo_The_User: apt-src is your friend |
| 19:13.52 | abrotman | Neo_The_User: which package are you talking about ? |
| 19:14.01 | Neo_The_User | several |
| 19:14.03 | Neo_The_User | thanks |
| 19:14.03 | abrotman | WHICH |
| 19:14.32 | Neo_The_User | not which, no. i have no purpose compiling "which" :P |
| 19:14.41 | lsd | *facepalm* :) |
| 19:14.46 | peterrooney | Neo_The_User: aptitude install apt-src, read the man page |
| 19:14.50 | jelly | oh noes, it's a smartarse! |
| 19:14.54 | dkr | idebug: yeah, that might justa void the error message, not allow other processing to run like you want |
| 19:14.56 | Neo_The_User | gotcha. thanks peterrooney |
| 19:15.24 | dkr | must be a secret project |
| 19:15.38 | *** join/#debian BeZerk (~MrEd@about/apple/iPod/BeZerk) |
| 19:15.48 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@secure.dreampark.se) |
| 19:16.01 | *** join/#debian kaziem_ (~devnull@26.252.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 19:16.03 | Neo_The_User | i actually just want a general idea how debian compilings things. its not a "secret" |
| 19:16.06 | *** join/#debian nhandler_ (~nhandler@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nhandler) |
| 19:16.14 | Neo_The_User | *compiles |
| 19:16.40 | dkr | that's what someone who works for the NSA would say |
| 19:16.46 | dkr | smirks |
| 19:16.59 | Neo_The_User | where can I get etch? |
| 19:17.00 | lsd | Neo_The_User, probably the best way to learn that is to learn how .deb packages are made |
| 19:17.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 907] by debhelper |
| 19:17.05 | *** join/#debian shingouz (shingouz@80-186-26-132.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 19:17.09 | lsd | compiling is a big part of that |
| 19:17.27 | Neo_The_User | lenny... its kind of new. |
| 19:17.43 | azeem_ | etch is no longer supported |
| 19:17.47 | dkr | etch is end-of-lifed this month, no more security updates |
| 19:18.11 | Amarande | lenny is "kind of new"? |
| 19:18.16 | Amarande | it's already getting long in the tooth in some areas |
| 19:18.24 | lsd | grins at people saying debian stable is too *recent* for a change :D |
| 19:18.33 | *** join/#debian Droolio (~drool@87-194-188-170.bethere.co.uk) |
| 19:18.34 | Amarande | but I'm told squeeze isn't really ready for primetime yet :S |
| 19:18.41 | wols_ | Amarande: it's a law that a debian release is considered old as soon as it goes stable |
| 19:18.50 | dkr | Amarande: well, yeah, if it was it would have been released. :) |
| 19:18.56 | Neo_The_User | is lenny pretty locked down? security wize? even though its still 5.0.*? |
| 19:19.31 | abrotman | what number does etch have? |
| 19:19.32 | dkr | Neo_The_User: yes, it is. version numbers don't mean anything. |
| 19:19.35 | Titan8990 | Neo_The_User: what does the version number have to do with anything? |
| 19:19.42 | Neo_The_User | oh ok. |
| 19:19.43 | abrotman | uses z.9.21 |
| 19:19.59 | Titan8990 | !tell Neo_The_User about hardening |
| 19:20.35 | DipSwitch | hehe to bad Titan8990 :p |
| 19:20.45 | DipSwitch | !tell Neo_The_User about bastionizing |
| 19:20.56 | Neo_The_User | oh sweet. a guide on securing debian too! |
| 19:21.01 | idebug | not running first action script, since no logs will be rotated |
| 19:21.03 | idebug | BAH! |
| 19:21.06 | Neo_The_User | thank you so much! very well documented |
| 19:21.09 | *** join/#debian Petrov (~petrov@120.116-247-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 19:21.26 | DipSwitch | !tell DipSwitch about hardening |
| 19:21.27 | *** join/#debian azteech (~stevan@s59-254-68-64.trico.az.wi-power.com) |
| 19:21.51 | abrotman | !tell DipSwitch about selftell |
| 19:22.14 | *** join/#debian nhandler (~nhandler@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nhandler) |
| 19:22.33 | idebug | anyone have any better suggestions? |
| 19:22.36 | Neo_The_User | how do I get selinux on debian? |
| 19:22.40 | DipSwitch | heh thanks abrotman didn't know what the bot was yet :p |
| 19:22.55 | *** join/#debian hibalum (~hibalum@ADijon-158-1-20-207.w92-130.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:22.58 | Neo_The_User | or do most people just use iptables? |
| 19:23.04 | abrotman | Neo_The_User: http://wiki.debian.org/SELinux |
| 19:23.17 | Neo_The_User | a doc for that too! |
| 19:23.35 | *** join/#debian EagleWatch (~eaglewatc@193.226.7.12) |
| 19:23.47 | Neo_The_User | well.. thank you debian community and debian doc development team, im going to go install lenny. peace out. RESPECT! |
| 19:23.52 | Titan8990 | Neo_The_User: the two are not nescessarily related |
| 19:24.08 | Titan8990 | Neo_The_User: it would be more of selinux vs grsecurity than iptables vs selinux |
| 19:24.17 | Titan8990 | Neo_The_User: selinux is typically overkill for desktop machines |
| 19:24.31 | *** join/#debian BeZerk (~MrEd@about/apple/iPod/BeZerk) |
| 19:24.46 | *** join/#debian brbrbr (~Basiley@unaffiliated/brbrbr) |
| 19:25.42 | Neo_The_User | what filesystem should I use? ext3, jfs, or xfs? |
| 19:25.42 | *** join/#debian DanDare (~DanDare@189.59.161.159) |
| 19:26.14 | Neo_The_User | ext2 isn't journaled so im scared of that |
| 19:26.20 | abrotman | Neo_The_User: please read the installation manual |
| 19:26.29 | abrotman | and the reference guide .. |
| 19:26.59 | Neo_The_User | jeeze! even more docs! thanks |
| 19:27.03 | Neo_The_User | i love documentation. |
| 19:27.13 | abrotman | Neo_The_User: don't you have some other channel to troll? |
| 19:27.27 | Neo_The_User | alright ill stop being nice? |
| 19:28.06 | DipSwitch | Neo_The_User: he means that you can use google to do some research instead of spamming here ^^ |
| 19:28.08 | *** join/#debian Cascade_ (~sfdssdf@78.148.94.3) |
| 19:28.20 | Ssmario | i'm locked on debian lenny install... i get an error when it tries to install grub, what should i do ? |
| 19:28.29 | Neo_The_User | oh. i deeply apologize. i shall use google. |
| 19:28.43 | *** join/#debian SiNiESTrO (~siniestro@179.Red-80-33-148.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:28.46 | Cascade_ | Anybody need a tutorial on Android development? http://www.hackersrus.info/thread-3.html |
| 19:28.48 | abrotman | Ssmario: give us more information |
| 19:28.52 | Ssmario | now it tolds me to choose between installing grub on MBR or not |
| 19:28.53 | abrotman | Cascade_: go away |
| 19:28.58 | magyar | hi, how can i install samba from testing? |
| 19:29.03 | abrotman | Ssmario: most people choose MBR |
| 19:29.13 | Ssmario | abrotman: i got windows also |
| 19:29.14 | *** join/#debian madi (~madi@host141-194-dynamic.11-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 19:29.15 | abrotman | magyar: you do not, is there a backport at backports.org ? |
| 19:29.18 | *** part/#debian Cascade_ (~sfdssdf@78.148.94.3) |
| 19:29.20 | abrotman | Ssmario: grub can boot windows |
| 19:29.24 | lkcl | Cascade: this is a debian good he's fucked off |
| 19:29.32 | *** join/#debian rudi_s (~rudi_s@p5DCE5BA0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:29.37 | *** join/#debian testi (~quassel@84-72-138-19.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 19:29.48 | *** join/#debian MrFahrenheit (~RageOfTho@users-33-206.vinet.ba) |
| 19:30.09 | *** join/#debian Cascade_ (~sfdssdf@78.148.94.3) |
| 19:30.10 | *** part/#debian Cascade_ (~sfdssdf@78.148.94.3) |
| 19:30.22 | *** join/#debian SchleimKeim (~skull17@88.84.7.169) |
| 19:30.27 | Ssmario | abrotman: ok i say yes then continue and BOOM... grub-install (hd0) failed fatal error if i hit continue it tels me to go back and retry or skip |
| 19:30.50 | lkcl | abrotman: hi again. i worked out what the problem was (with that debian-arm libc6) - an unreliable ISP (3G network) having a temporary aberration on security.debian.org during an apt-get update |
| 19:30.56 | Ssmario | yesterday i've tried to skip it but couldn't boot debian |
| 19:31.09 | *** join/#debian roll (~roll@pool-146-77-196-89.dbd-ipconnect.net) |
| 19:31.28 | lkcl | _after_ i'd done an upgrade to libc6 of whatever-version it was. lenny2. |
| 19:31.29 | Ssmario | i've tried to reinstall grub manually but it didn't work ( no stage1) |
| 19:31.51 | wols_ | Ssmario: if reinstalled it, what error did you get on grub-install? |
| 19:33.13 | *** join/#debian bier|tp (~bier@pD9E2E068.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:34.28 | Ssmario | wols_: grub-probe: error: Cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sda3. Check your device.map |
| 19:34.43 | *** join/#debian hercynium (~hercynium@p3m/member/hercynium) |
| 19:34.55 | Ssmario | wols_: i already exposed the problem here with no solution :( |
| 19:34.58 | *** join/#debian buntfalke (~nobody@unaffiliated/buntfalke) |
| 19:35.07 | *** join/#debian pickcoder (~madmax@unaffiliated/pickcoder) |
| 19:35.08 | *** join/#debian TrueDD (~truedd@unaffiliated/truedd) |
| 19:35.19 | Neo_The_User | Ssmario: are the discs initialized? |
| 19:35.24 | *** join/#debian joneal (~we6jbo@cpe-66-75-229-230.san.res.rr.com) |
| 19:35.26 | Ssmario | i know that i shouldn't skip this step, there is no way i can get back grub |
| 19:35.40 | Ssmario | Neo_The_User: what do you mean by initialized ? |
| 19:35.43 | *** join/#debian zepp^ (~zepp@b76042.upc-b.chello.nl) |
| 19:36.12 | Neo_The_User | well when I tried to install fedora, i got the same error then it asked me to re-initialize the HDD(s) |
| 19:36.14 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 19:36.17 | magyar | abrotman: there seems to be one that is newer, how do i pin it |
| 19:36.29 | Neo_The_User | Hello TrueDD. How are you? |
| 19:36.32 | Titan8990 | Ssmario: if you fdisk a partition while another portion of the disk is in use, the kernel will not use the new partition table until after a reboot |
| 19:36.53 | Titan8990 | Ssmario: or some magic with part-probe |
| 19:37.25 | *** join/#debian Cascade_ (~sfdssdf@78.148.94.3) |
| 19:37.26 | Cascade_ | New programming forum http://www.hackersrus.info/index.php JOIN! |
| 19:37.42 | Ssmario | Titan8990: so what should i do now ? i'm locked on the install ( installing grub ) |
| 19:37.43 | lsd | ehm. |
| 19:37.55 | Titan8990 | !ops Cascade_ spammer |
| 19:37.55 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: titan8990 complains about: Cascade_ spammer |
| 19:38.02 | TrueDD | Hi Neo_The_User |
| 19:38.05 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 19:38.06 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@78.148.94.3] by dondelelcaro |
| 19:38.06 | *** part/#debian Cascade_ (~sfdssdf@78.148.94.3) |
| 19:38.06 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 19:38.11 | *** join/#debian bdheeman (~bdheeman@bdheeman-2-pt.tunnel.tserv20.hkg1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 19:38.16 | TrueDD | well, thnks and you Neo_The_User ? |
| 19:38.51 | Titan8990 | Ssmario: no idea, i was just giving more information on what Neo_The_User was trying to suggest |
| 19:38.51 | Amarande | forced /part, whatever happened to /kick? |
| 19:39.25 | Ssmario | it ask me to try to install GRUB2 instead of grub legacy |
| 19:39.28 | *** join/#debian nhandler_ (~nhandler@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nhandler) |
| 19:39.59 | Titan8990 | I don't support testing personally |
| 19:40.00 | Neo_The_User | im great! |
| 19:40.12 | *** join/#debian Unode (unode@unaffiliated/unode) |
| 19:40.53 | Ssmario | if i choose to not install it on the MBR what will happen ? |
| 19:41.04 | wols_ | Ssmario: why sda3? and what is in your device.map? |
| 19:41.10 | abrotman | lkcl: that's a bit odd |
| 19:41.29 | Ssmario | wols_: sda3 is where i try to install debian |
| 19:41.39 | abrotman | magyar: you do not do that .. you can backport it yourself, but installing packages directly from testing will likely break your system |
| 19:42.02 | Ssmario | in my device.map i remeber that i have only one line specifiying (hd0) |
| 19:42.10 | wols_ | Ssmario: any reason why you don't want grub in the MBR? |
| 19:42.12 | magyar | got it |
| 19:42.24 | *** join/#debian LaptopBrain (~brain@cpc2-mapp3-0-0-cust318.nott.cable.ntl.com) |
| 19:42.45 | *** join/#debian comradekingu (~comradeki@188.113.124.49) |
| 19:42.47 | Ssmario | wols_: i just want it to be installed |
| 19:42.48 | abrotman | judd: versions samba-common |
| 19:42.49 | judd | samba-common -- etch: 3.0.24-6etch10; etch-security: 3.0.24-6etch10; etch-backports: 2:3.2.5-4~bpo41+1; lenny-security: 2:3.2.5-4lenny7; lenny: 2:3.2.5-4lenny8; lenny-backports: 2:3.4.3-1~bpo50+2; squeeze: 2:3.4.5~dfsg-1; sid: 2:3.4.5~dfsg-2; experimental: 2:3.5.0~rc1~dfsg-1; experimental: 2:3.5.0~rc2~dfsg-1; experimental: 2:3.5.0~rc3~dfsg-1 |
| 19:43.06 | abrotman | magyar: it's not newer by much .. i'd try the one from backports.org first |
| 19:43.18 | lkcl | abrotman: i notice occasionally that i have to do apt-get update twice. volatile and security deb entries occasionally get "forbidden" HTTP errors! trying a second time and it's fine. soooo, i'm guessing that i'd been trying to do apt-get install {foo} when libc6-{...}-lenny2 had been installed, and things just got into a mess |
| 19:43.29 | Ssmario | wols_: if i choose yes (for installing it in MBR) it fails, should i try the "no" |
| 19:43.35 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@217.28.0.43) |
| 19:43.35 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@unaffiliated/mentor) |
| 19:43.38 | lkcl | it would explain the non-repro scenario |
| 19:43.50 | *** join/#debian testi (~quassel@84-72-138-19.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 19:43.51 | magyar | abrotman: is there a apt-get from backports? |
| 19:44.02 | Titan8990 | !tell magyar about bpo |
| 19:44.15 | wols_ | Ssmario: you should try to install it manually in the MBR imho |
| 19:44.35 | magyar | Titan8990: thanks |
| 19:44.40 | Neo_The_User | !tell Neo_The_User about ext3 |
| 19:45.14 | Neo_The_User | loves dpkg |
| 19:45.15 | Ssmario | wols_: i already tried this, by skipping this step and it didn't work, complaining about a missing stage1 |
| 19:46.02 | Ssmario | i tried by mounting sda3 chroot the grub-install didn't work, and grub root setup didn't work either |
| 19:46.14 | *** join/#debian tranc2234 (~PircBot@70-36-140-21.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) |
| 19:46.38 | Neo_The_User | what version of jfsutils is in the debian installer? |
| 19:47.06 | Neo_The_User | hopes for 1.1.14 |
| 19:47.08 | *** part/#debian oru_work (~Boevik@ool-4b7f8ec4.static.optonline.net) |
| 19:47.48 | *** part/#debian bdheeman (~bdheeman@bdheeman-2-pt.tunnel.tserv20.hkg1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 19:49.09 | Neo_The_User | also, what kernel does it use? |
| 19:49.12 | *** join/#debian yangpp (yang@sparc.mtveurope.org) |
| 19:49.40 | yangpp | If I have two IPv6 addresses in /etc/netowork/interfaces, how can I add a second address ? |
| 19:50.30 | yangpp | if I try to add two address statements it gives me syntax error |
| 19:50.41 | *** join/#debian ruoso (~ruoso@187.79.125.119) |
| 19:50.44 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~SkG@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) |
| 19:51.27 | Neo_The_User | just change the device |
| 19:51.50 | *** join/#debian LuserN800 (~lo@p5B0C5516.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:51.53 | Neo_The_User | like instead of eth0 or whatever use eth1 |
| 19:51.59 | Neo_The_User | and use the same syntax stuff |
| 19:52.06 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@217.28.0.43) |
| 19:52.23 | *** join/#debian pierreghz (~pierre@cust-207-29-111-94.dyn.as47377.net) |
| 19:53.07 | *** join/#debian rgr (foobar@85.183.18.158) |
| 19:53.45 | *** join/#debian dArK_IcE (~lawl@a85-138-217-179.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 19:54.36 | lsd | yangpp, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/ubuntu-linux-creating-ethernet-alias-for-eth0-network-device.html |
| 19:54.43 | *** join/#debian badcloud (~raanan@ti400720a342-0297.bb.online.no) |
| 19:55.07 | *** join/#debian DasEi (~m@g225209025.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 19:55.34 | DasEi | what is the deafault bootmanager of lenny 5.0.2 ? grub2 nor ? |
| 19:56.11 | wols_ | grub legacy (0.97) |
| 19:56.24 | DasEi | thank you, wols |
| 19:57.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 916] by debhelper |
| 19:57.45 | Amarande | gah, why did gtkpod just crash on me :| |
| 19:57.51 | *** join/#debian {41444d494e} (~kvirc@93.85.56.233) |
| 19:58.03 | buntfalke | which tool acts similar to iptraf but is able to show traffic stats about tun devices? |
| 19:58.06 | Titan8990 | Amarande: check /var/log/messages |
| 19:59.10 | Titan8990 | buntfalke: iftop? |
| 19:59.23 | *** join/#debian Suteneris (~Meile@86-46-53-136-dynamic.b-ras3.mvw.galway.eircom.net) |
| 19:59.27 | buntfalke | Titan8990: thanks |
| 19:59.44 | Suteneris | how to chmod a file? |
| 19:59.50 | *** join/#debian thorben (~t@84-245-5-233.dsl.cambrium.nl) |
| 20:00.01 | *** join/#debian zleap (~zleap3@dsl-217-155-46-222.zen.co.uk) |
| 20:00.22 | *** join/#debian bridgeguy (~Marius@e181077248.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 20:00.43 | Titan8990 | Suteneris: chmod [options] <file>; man chmod |
| 20:00.47 | *** join/#debian Guest81127 (~mentor@unaffiliated/mentor) |
| 20:00.49 | *** join/#debian themill (~stuart@unaffiliated/themill) |
| 20:01.03 | *** part/#debian Guest81127 (~mentor@unaffiliated/mentor) |
| 20:01.21 | *** join/#debian cusco (~trilili@2001:0:53aa:64c:306b:7d5f:a077:acde) |
| 20:01.33 | *** join/#debian Dbug (~Dbug@unaffiliated/dbug) |
| 20:02.07 | *** join/#debian fantasticulous (~frog@85.122.81.58) |
| 20:02.39 | *** join/#debian Alagar (~Administr@122.164.38.173) |
| 20:03.04 | *** join/#debian zzz_ (~ZzZz@134.117.254.248) |
| 20:03.42 | *** join/#debian AbsoluteBeginner (~AbsoluteB@p50864356.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:05.34 | bridgeguy | Hi, I was wondering if you could help me with some port forwarding.. I have two machines, one functions as a router, the other one is a windows machine. The router has an interface that's connected to the internet eth2. The windows client is connected to the router and has the ip address 192.168.0.3. |
| 20:05.44 | gothenburg | aha |
| 20:05.57 | *** join/#debian Sitem (~yuijin@85.108.193.251) |
| 20:06.06 | *** part/#debian Sitem (~yuijin@85.108.193.251) |
| 20:06.12 | bridgeguy | I already set up working port forwarding for Windows RDP for remote desktop: |
| 20:06.14 | gothenburg | bridgeguy: iptables? |
| 20:06.15 | bridgeguy | iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -i eth2 -p tcp --dport 3389 -j DNAT --to 192.168.0.3:3389 |
| 20:06.15 | bridgeguy | iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW --dport 3389 -i eth2 -j ACCEPT |
| 20:06.18 | gothenburg | aha |
| 20:06.49 | bridgeguy | My problem is that I've used the same style to do http forwarding on port 80 (windows) to port 8888 (router), but it's not working |
| 20:07.17 | bridgeguy | iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -i eth2 -p tcp --dport 8888 -j DNAT --to 192.168.0.3:80 |
| 20:07.18 | bridgeguy | iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW --dport 8888 -i eth2 -j ACCEPT |
| 20:07.57 | *** join/#debian GhostInTheShell (~melkor@client-136-96.speedy-net.bg) |
| 20:07.57 | gothenburg | aha |
| 20:08.12 | *** join/#debian thorben (~t@84-245-5-233.dsl.cambrium.nl) |
| 20:08.29 | bridgeguy | Is there an obvious mistake I'm making? |
| 20:08.48 | *** join/#debian DipSwitch (~none@koppel-125.sshunet.nl) |
| 20:10.37 | *** join/#debian sepult (~user@xdsl-87-78-173-237.netcologne.de) |
| 20:11.05 | *** join/#debian zzz_ (~ZzZz@134.117.254.248) |
| 20:11.22 | *** join/#debian robrose (~rob@host68-20-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 20:11.56 | *** join/#debian oblu (~oblu@ip-89-103-168-220.karneval.cz) |
| 20:12.02 | *** join/#debian babilen_ (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 20:14.28 | *** join/#debian MarGarina (~orenhe@python-software-foundation.oneringnetworks.net) |
| 20:14.46 | *** join/#debian Glebelg (~Glebelg@unaffiliated/glebelg) |
| 20:15.20 | *** join/#debian GhostInTheShell (~melkor@client-136-96.speedy-net.bg) |
| 20:16.22 | *** join/#debian aheron (~aheron@79.103.239.98.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 20:19.44 | *** join/#debian {41444d494e}|w (~qwe@leased-line-gomel-93-125-101-15.telecom.by) |
| 20:19.45 | *** join/#debian hoarycripple (~hoarycrip@pool-68-160-184-132.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 20:20.00 | wols_ | bridgeguy: you using ipmasq? |
| 20:20.31 | *** join/#debian Thx (~marco@host65-120-dynamic.37-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 20:20.57 | Thx | hi! is there anybody that used kvm with lenny? |
| 20:21.12 | dondelelcaro | Thx: best to just ask your question |
| 20:21.58 | Thx | dondelelcaro: i have kvm on debian lenny...kvm with vm on idle use 50% of host cpu...is normal? |
| 20:22.03 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 20:22.33 | OpenTokix | Thx: What os on the vm? |
| 20:22.40 | Thx | OpenTokix: xp sp2 |
| 20:22.52 | Thx | OpenTokix: the cpu of xp is 2% of usage |
| 20:23.22 | zinx | Thx: it's probably not letting the VM idle |
| 20:23.26 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 20:23.30 | *** join/#debian iKs (~iks@128.220.159.20) |
| 20:24.24 | bridgeguy | wols_: Not yet, should I? |
| 20:24.47 | Thx | zinx: uhm...what? |
| 20:24.49 | *** join/#debian omgwtfbbqhax (~Unknown@cpe-173-89-40-59.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 20:25.21 | zinx | Thx: the OS has to specificly sent HLT or other instructions to the CPU to let it know it can idle |
| 20:25.29 | zinx | s/sent/send/ |
| 20:25.41 | zinx | Thx: it sounds like XP SP2 may not be doing that inside your VM |
| 20:26.05 | Thx | zinx: is there a possible solution to do this? |
| 20:26.08 | dondelelcaro | Thx: it's most likely a problem with XP; you won't see that problem if you're running Debian as a guest OS |
| 20:26.17 | zinx | Thx: no idea. |
| 20:26.43 | *** join/#debian madmax83 (~madmax@lan.iskon.hr) |
| 20:26.53 | Thx | dondelelcaro: i try to installa a debian vm to see it |
| 20:27.02 | *** join/#debian datacrusher (~crls@unaffiliated/datacrusher) |
| 20:27.22 | OpenTokix | Thx: did you install the kvm-drivers-stuff in xp? |
| 20:27.49 | dondelelcaro | Thx: apparently, you need to have the ACPI HAL enabled in XP; a google search will show you more information |
| 20:28.10 | *** part/#debian Alagar (~Administr@122.164.38.173) |
| 20:28.33 | *** join/#debian zzz_ (~ZzZz@134.117.254.248) |
| 20:28.55 | Thx | OpenTokix: uhm no...where i can find? |
| 20:29.01 | Thx | dondelelcaro: ok |
| 20:29.08 | OpenTokix | Thx: not sure |
| 20:29.47 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@c-4f662ed3-74736162.cust.telenor.se) |
| 20:30.31 | *** part/#debian aheron (~aheron@79.103.239.98.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 20:31.39 | *** join/#debian fastPutty (~fastPutty@modemcable086.138-70-69.static.videotron.ca) |
| 20:31.53 | bridgeguy | wols_: I don't like using ipmasq, it takes away too much control over the firewall |
| 20:32.06 | *** join/#debian BeZerk (~MrEd@about/apple/iPod/BeZerk) |
| 20:33.21 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@r2r157.net.upc.cz) |
| 20:33.22 | *** join/#debian LuserN800 (~lo@p5B0C5516.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:33.36 | *** join/#debian FliesLikeABrick (~Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor) |
| 20:34.00 | *** join/#debian rudi_s (~rudi_s@p5DCE5BA0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:34.38 | *** join/#debian allisterb (~allisterb@cuscon152823.tstt.net.tt) |
| 20:35.02 | *** join/#debian DanDare (~DanDare@189.59.161.159) |
| 20:35.52 | *** join/#debian acemi (~acemi@unaffiliated/acemi) |
| 20:37.16 | *** join/#debian CharminTheMoose (~Count_fuz@unaffiliated/charminthemoose) |
| 20:40.48 | *** join/#debian zink (~zink@pc-121-227-100-190.cm.vtr.net) |
| 20:41.30 | *** join/#debian bLzR (~bLzR@d54C58FE6.access.telenet.be) |
| 20:42.03 | *** join/#debian smacnay (~smacnay@dsl-v201-216-110-245-28.wightman.ca) |
| 20:42.13 | micket | -c instead of just c |
| 20:42.42 | micket | Excuse me. It would seem i left this window scrolled up for 2 days., |
| 20:42.47 | micket | So my reply was a tad late. |
| 20:42.50 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@217.28.0.43) |
| 20:44.03 | *** join/#debian shingouz (shingouz@80-186-179-153.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 20:44.27 | dassu | lol |
| 20:44.48 | *** part/#debian Guest47420 (~mentor@217.28.0.43) |
| 20:45.02 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@c-4f6625f2-74736162.cust.telenor.se) |
| 20:45.16 | *** join/#debian rxt0 (~rxt0@200.87.220.237) |
| 20:45.57 | *** join/#debian jfblend (~j.faassen@a83-163-44-93.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 20:46.29 | *** join/#debian scoopex (~scoopex@256bit.org) |
| 20:47.27 | *** join/#debian horgh_ (~horgh@S0106001c101b3b36.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 20:47.44 | *** join/#debian Alagar (~Administr@122.164.38.173) |
| 20:47.51 | *** join/#debian phogg (~phogg@173-10-190-217-BusName-washingtonDC.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 20:51.14 | *** part/#debian horgh_ (~horgh@S0106001c101b3b36.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 20:51.19 | Thx | is it possible that is a bug on lenny? |
| 20:52.57 | *** join/#debian mamooth (~mamooth@unaffiliated/kabnot) |
| 20:53.05 | mamooth | hi |
| 20:53.19 | abrotman | apologizes to petemc |
| 20:53.23 | Thx | dondelelcaro: thank you so mucj dondelelcaro |
| 20:53.50 | *** join/#debian Astroman2 (~Astroman@78-86-137-77.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 20:53.55 | mamooth | Why does the scripts in /etc/init.d/* aren't 750 or 700? |
| 20:53.55 | Thx | dondelelcaro: i change the acpi and all is ok ;) |
| 20:54.00 | petemc | abrotman: why so? |
| 20:54.09 | *** join/#debian omry_|work (~omry@DSL212-235-83-63.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 20:54.17 | abrotman | petemc: you know why .. it happened somewhere else, but there was a lot of it :) |
| 20:54.34 | petemc | confused |
| 20:54.39 | *** part/#debian Dominian (dominian@freenode/staff/dominian) |
| 20:55.08 | dondelelcaro | mamooth: why should they be? |
| 20:55.10 | *** join/#debian agustin (~agustin@190.51.215.241) |
| 20:55.58 | *** join/#debian manicman (~manicman@unaffiliated/manicman) |
| 20:56.07 | agustin | aptitude question: How to select all the packages installed in the system but not the ones installed manually? |
| 20:56.08 | mamooth | dondelelcaro: tht's the question of the "moitiƩ-plein" "moitiƩ-vide" :) |
| 20:56.15 | *** part/#debian Thx (~marco@host65-120-dynamic.37-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 20:56.28 | mamooth | but I prefer a paranoid solution if I can have the choice |
| 20:56.35 | dondelelcaro | agustin:' ~i~M' |
| 20:56.42 | *** join/#debian valczir (~quassel@c-174-51-35-18.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 20:57.04 | dondelelcaro | mamooth: there's no reason to do so; all of those things are publicly available, and don't have any information in them which needs to be secure |
| 20:57.06 | jelly-home | mamooth: what purpose would hiding the files, whose copies are distributed all over the world on debian mirrors, serve? |
| 20:57.16 | agustin | dondelelcaro: I say installed bia a .deb file |
| 20:57.19 | agustin | via |
| 20:57.33 | mamooth | jelly-home: +100 |
| 20:57.38 | dondelelcaro | agustin: there's no difference in installing via a .deb or installing any other way |
| 20:57.57 | mamooth | but I don't put there only debian files |
| 20:58.04 | agustin | dondelelcaro: But it fails to reinstall if a package is not downloaded |
| 20:58.19 | dondelelcaro | agustin: if your question is about whether there are packages that are no longer available on a mirror, they're listed as obsolete, and you can search for them too |
| 20:58.37 | *** join/#debian misnix (~jkr@corona.xs4all.nl) |
| 20:58.48 | agustin | dondelelcaro: how? |
| 20:59.03 | *** join/#debian behanw (~behanw@216.16.247.198) |
| 20:59.07 | agustin | what I am trying to do is reinstall all the packages on my system |
| 20:59.27 | agustin | (don't ask why) |
| 20:59.43 | mamooth | dondelelcaro, jelly-home your answer are clear. I always view thing from a paranoid angle, but effectively, they don't have to be more closed |
| 20:59.56 | *** join/#debian behanw (~behanw@216.16.247.198) |
| 21:00.50 | agustin | dondelelcaro: I found how. ?not(?obsolete) worked |
| 21:01.15 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@99-196-115-143.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 21:02.12 | agustin | thanks! |
| 21:02.53 | *** join/#debian aucabarcas (~inteltame@190.253.180.26) |
| 21:02.53 | *** join/#debian leejongwook (~leejongwo@123.109.85.6) |
| 21:04.34 | *** join/#debian ffizz (~ffizz@p50903F73.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:04.40 | *** join/#debian goksin (~goksin@78.169.14.192) |
| 21:04.57 | Devastator | On a computer with debian lenny I've mounted a windows share with cifs, but when shutting down it says: CIFS VFS: Server not responding, so basically... debian problem or samba problem? |
| 21:05.56 | *** join/#debian careta (~botto@134.219.139.219) |
| 21:06.26 | jelly-home | Devastator: insufficient data for a meaningful answer |
| 21:07.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 907] by debhelper |
| 21:07.36 | *** join/#debian Zer (~james@cpe-24-166-80-78.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 21:08.30 | Devastator | jelly-home well, I've added this share to /etc/fstab and I've searched through google and seems like I need to add some script to /etc/rc.d/ |
| 21:08.42 | *** join/#debian Vr|3Z0 (~I@83.55.132.2) |
| 21:08.53 | Vr|3Z0 | las |
| 21:08.59 | *** join/#debian Spami|Thug (~Spami|Thu@unaffiliated/spamithug/x-9927323) |
| 21:09.02 | *** join/#debian zleap (~zleap3@dsl-217-155-46-222.zen.co.uk) |
| 21:09.15 | *** part/#debian Vr|3Z0 (~I@83.55.132.2) |
| 21:10.12 | *** join/#debian harovali (~harovali@r190-135-66-38.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 21:10.42 | Devastator | jelly-home actually seems that cifsd is killed before umounting my share |
| 21:10.57 | *** join/#debian LordVorp (~lordvorp@devel.exitexchange.com) |
| 21:11.01 | LordVorp | I'm trying to figure out xhost... I do xhost +otherhost, then ssh -fX otherhost firefox, but I get the message: the connection to display localhost:11 appears to be untrusted. Suggestions? |
| 21:11.33 | *** join/#debian Toman- (~toman@cm-84.215.178.44.getinternet.no) |
| 21:11.47 | jelly-home | Devastator: hm it might be possible there's a bug in init scripts ordering on shutdown. That'd be Debian's fault. |
| 21:11.56 | harovali | hi , i put a script in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d which I intend executes itself when pppd goes up a connection. It has execution permissions and has the #!/bin/bash at the beginning. But the script does not execute. Is there anything extra I must do ? (it should run with the run-parts that is called on ip-up) |
| 21:12.23 | *** join/#debian VladNistor1 (~nistor@89.137.125.51) |
| 21:13.16 | *** join/#debian Eren_ (~eren@88.239.149.88) |
| 21:13.39 | *** join/#debian pipegeek (~pipegeek@nyc01.limewire.com) |
| 21:13.46 | *** join/#debian ITXpander (~Someone@a89-155-238-134.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 21:13.50 | *** join/#debian raz0 (~raz0@x1-6-00-18-4d-e8-79-94.k687.webspeed.dk) |
| 21:13.56 | *** join/#debian oblu (~oblu@ip-89-103-168-220.karneval.cz) |
| 21:14.13 | *** join/#debian lordlamer (~fhaberman@e177240178.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 21:15.40 | *** join/#debian Eren__ (~eren@88.239.153.0) |
| 21:15.42 | Devastator | jelly-home where can I search for bugs? |
| 21:15.44 | *** join/#debian joneal (~we6jbo@cpe-66-75-229-230.san.res.rr.com) |
| 21:16.03 | *** join/#debian allisterb (~allisterb@cuscon123184.tstt.net.tt) |
| 21:16.06 | leejongwook | harovali, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/run-script-program-immediately-after-ppp-interface-up/ <-- how about this ? |
| 21:16.09 | jelly-home | Devastator: bugs.debian.org, theoretically |
| 21:16.38 | leejongwook | harovali, i googled it, never tried it :P |
| 21:16.54 | *** part/#debian LordVorp (~lordvorp@devel.exitexchange.com) |
| 21:18.03 | *** join/#debian willmore (~willmore@c-24-13-1-200.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 21:19.44 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@84.28.246.30) |
| 21:21.56 | *** join/#debian oblu_ (~oblu@ip-89-103-168-220.karneval.cz) |
| 21:22.38 | ghenry | hi |
| 21:22.45 | ghenry | I have an lvm setup |
| 21:22.55 | ghenry | lvcreate -L50G -n test |
| 21:23.00 | ghenry | in a vg1 |
| 21:23.05 | ghenry | so that's /dev/vg1/test |
| 21:23.23 | leejongwook | harovali, i found this ---> You can check which scripts run-parts would run in a directory with the --test option : # run-parts --test /etc/ppp/ip-up.d |
| 21:23.25 | ghenry | When SUSE uses this via xen in hvm mode it creates /dev/vg1/testp1 |
| 21:23.30 | ghenry | /dev/vg1/testp2 etc. |
| 21:23.48 | ghenry | I want to re-create this lvm on another machine |
| 21:23.55 | ghenry | So I have /dev/vg1/test |
| 21:24.03 | ghenry | lvs always shows /dev/vg1/test |
| 21:24.07 | *** join/#debian Glebelg (~Glebelg@unaffiliated/glebelg) |
| 21:24.15 | ghenry | but fdisk -l /dev/vg1/test shows all the partitions |
| 21:24.20 | *** join/#debian ppradhan (~ppradhan@kathmandu.ddns.uark.edu) |
| 21:24.28 | ghenry | normally I'd mount the lvm and rsync over to the other mount |
| 21:24.44 | ghenry | not sure how to do this one though as I don't see how to get to those partitions |
| 21:24.45 | Devastator | jelly-home founded.. but doesn't seem to be fixed :( |
| 21:25.16 | *** join/#debian joneal (~we6jbo@cpe-66-75-229-230.san.res.rr.com) |
| 21:25.17 | jelly-home | Devastator: number? |
| 21:25.43 | leejongwook | harovali, ---> the filename must contain only letters, digits, underscores and hyphens [a-zA-Z_-] ; it must not contain periods like in "script.sh". |
| 21:27.01 | harovali | leejongwook: thanks ! you've been very helpul |
| 21:27.12 | *** join/#debian EagleScreen (~rafael@89.141.100.2.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 21:27.30 | leejongwook | harovali, @_@ thanks... |
| 21:28.03 | *** join/#debian hercynium (~hercynium@p3m/member/hercynium) |
| 21:28.15 | Devastator | jelly-home 516733, 431966, 477498 |
| 21:28.46 | *** join/#debian paipimenta (~paipiment@cpe-98-154-90-81.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 21:28.49 | jelly-home | fun |
| 21:28.55 | harovali | leejongwook: my problem was that the filename has periods in it |
| 21:29.10 | leejongwook | harovali, works now ? |
| 21:29.21 | *** join/#debian AbsoluteBeginner (~AbsoluteB@p50864356.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:29.37 | paipimenta | hello all.... I have a desktop with debian as only OS right now.... I found an old shareware game that runs on 16-bit windows, so I want to install DOS 6.22 on a partition, but it seems that it looks to install on the first partition only.... |
| 21:29.47 | harovali | leejongwook: yes , run-parts --test now includes the script ! |
| 21:30.07 | *** join/#debian muh2000 (~muh2000@unaffiliated/muh2000) |
| 21:30.10 | leejongwook | harovali, i'm a desktop user(newbie :P) i'm glad :) |
| 21:30.23 | jelly-home | Devastator: it's mildly interesting that latest bug seems to only appear on amd64 |
| 21:30.27 | harovali | leejongwook: go on , you'll be an uberhacker soon :-P |
| 21:30.38 | leejongwook | @_@ |
| 21:30.42 | petemc | paipimenta: can you not use an emulator like dosemu or bochs |
| 21:30.59 | *** join/#debian ppradhan (~ppradhan@kathmandu.ddns.uark.edu) |
| 21:31.06 | paipimenta | if I use dosemu, don't I still need to run win 3.1? |
| 21:31.07 | *** join/#debian e1z0_ (bla@84.32.74.241) |
| 21:31.14 | petemc | i dont know.. |
| 21:31.30 | jelly-home | paipimenta: does it work under wine? |
| 21:58.01 | *** join/#debian apt (ibot@rikers.org) |
| 21:58.01 | *** topic/#debian is lenny (debian 5.0.4) released /msg dpkg lennyr4 | /msg dpkg etch->lenny | 4.0r8 released /msg dpkg etch | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | channel logs: http://purl.rikers.org/%23debian |
| 21:58.06 | Toman- | Anyone else have kde plasma crashing with kernel 2.6.32-trunk-686 in debian testing? |
| 21:58.20 | suw | Titan8990: I got it - I tould you - add new drive, move /var to new drive remount /var to new drive, remake old lvm. |
| 21:58.22 | *** join/#debian visof_ (~visof@41.238.233.112) |
| 21:58.32 | *** join/#debian daedaluz (~daedaluz@dyn82-77.yok.fi) |
| 21:58.35 | *** join/#debian kokkafasas (~myself@host157-126-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 21:58.51 | suw | Titan8990: move data back ;) |
| 21:58.59 | Titan8990 | suw: as long as you are not doing shrinking and the your hardware supports it, you can add a new drive and grow /var without bringing the system down |
| 21:59.31 | Titan8990 | suw: shrinking is the only case where you have to move and rebuild, but do what you feel confortable with as long as it will work |
| 21:59.46 | jelly-home | Devastator: I've no idea... check your /lastlog |
| 21:59.57 | suw | Titan8990: there's 20 GB not used before curent LVM, I want to include that too into curent lvm, it seems it's impossible unless I'll remake the lvm from there. |
| 22:00.05 | *** join/#debian KamusHadenes (~kamushade@hyadesinc/lord/hadenes/kamushadenes) |
| 22:00.07 | jelly-home | Devastator: I don't use longterm memory for #debian |
| 22:00.45 | leejongwook | paipimenta, what is VT82xxxxx ? |
| 22:01.03 | Devastator | jelly-home hum.. ok, you don't have a suggestion for the problem, do you? |
| 22:01.03 | Titan8990 | suw: its just free unpartitioned space |
| 22:01.51 | paipimenta | leejongwook: USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 62) |
| 22:01.53 | paipimenta | lspci output |
| 22:02.05 | leejongwook | @_@ i see |
| 22:02.24 | jelly-home | Devastator: apart from the obvious hack, forcing an umount early in rc6.d / rc0.d, no |
| 22:02.35 | leejongwook | paipimenta, my lspic output ---> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600 GT (rev a1) |
| 22:02.45 | *** join/#debian themill (~stuart@unaffiliated/themill) |
| 22:02.56 | leejongwook | paipimenta, means i have nVidia 8600GT |
| 22:03.02 | *** join/#debian rapacity (~prwg@unaffiliated/rapacity) |
| 22:03.03 | leejongwook | paipimenta, what's yours ? |
| 22:03.07 | jelly-home | paipimenta: dude... "lspci -nn | grep VGA" |
| 22:04.21 | paipimenta | NVCrush11 [GeForce2MX Integrated Graphics] |
| 22:04.54 | jelly-home | leejongwook: the descriptive name can help but is irrelevant, I'm trying to make him output the pci id and look up the driver with judd |
| 22:05.12 | jelly-home | paipimenta: that's not the whole output. |
| 22:05.13 | leejongwook | ok sorry |
| 22:05.27 | jelly-home | has a feeling of deja vu |
| 22:06.39 | paipimenta | alright.... abort screen resolution problem.... dosbox working much better than VirtualBox |
| 22:06.39 | *** join/#debian xtr (~058452959@64-46-16-152.dyn.novuscom.net) |
| 22:06.40 | *** join/#debian vev (~vev@188.4.72.225.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 22:06.50 | jelly-home | geforce2mx is old enough to be supported by nv, but let's see the actual pci id |
| 22:07.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 897] by debhelper |
| 22:07.02 | rapacity | what would be the simplest way to limit a user's cpu share ? |
| 22:07.14 | paipimenta | I have a Z drive and a D drive (which I mounted from my iso of win3.1) why can't I make a directory under the Z drive in DosBox? |
| 22:07.25 | *** join/#debian Holborn (~holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 22:07.31 | Spec | Heya guys. When I create a file (touch or mkdir), the ctime (as seen by: find . -printf "Time: %a\n") is about 15 minutes into the future of the system time (as seen by 'date'). What can cause this sort of weird behavior? |
| 22:07.53 | jelly-home | paipimenta: we have no idea what the Z: drive in your dosbox corresponds to |
| 22:07.58 | *** join/#debian prince_jammys (~mischa@pool-151-202-82-99.ny325.east.verizon.net) |
| 22:08.03 | *** join/#debian Bryanstein (bryan@free.psybnc.and.eggdrop.at.shellium.org) |
| 22:08.06 | *** join/#debian heavenquake (~heavenqua@unaffiliated/heavenquake) |
| 22:08.28 | paipimenta | dir of Z drive is just 12 basic commands.... command, autoexec, keyb, imgmount, boot, intro, rescan, loadfix, mem, mount, mixer, config |
| 22:08.54 | *** join/#debian {41444d494e}|w (~qwe@leased-line-gomel-93-125-101-15.telecom.by) |
| 22:09.19 | jelly-home | paipimenta: and how much space is free on that drive? |
| 22:09.55 | paipimenta | jelly-home: got it.... created folder on Desktop/DosBox to emulate C: drive |
| 22:10.26 | *** join/#debian Brain (~brain@cpc2-mapp3-0-0-cust318.nott.cable.ntl.com) |
| 22:10.29 | *** join/#debian LaptopBrain (~brain@cpc2-mapp3-0-0-cust318.nott.cable.ntl.com) |
| 22:10.51 | *** join/#debian andres833 (~andres833@190.144.75.22) |
| 22:11.41 | *** join/#debian Ambush (ambush@kush.resyn.net) |
| 22:11.53 | *** part/#debian leejongwook (~leejongwo@123.109.85.6) |
| 22:11.57 | Spec | gah, my bad. |
| 22:11.59 | Spec | nfs mount = time fail. |
| 22:12.46 | *** join/#debian oblu (~oblu@ip-89-103-168-220.karneval.cz) |
| 22:13.33 | *** join/#debian BoomSie (~gideon@84-245-27-118.dsl.cambrium.nl) |
| 22:13.37 | *** join/#debian thorben (~t@84-245-5-233.dsl.cambrium.nl) |
| 22:14.30 | *** join/#debian afurlan (~afurlan@189.34.72.40) |
| 22:15.37 | *** join/#debian emachado (~edjunior@fsf/member/emachado) |
| 22:15.57 | *** join/#debian hid3 (~tst@lan-78-157-71-116.vln.skynet.lt) |
| 22:18.09 | *** join/#debian EagleWatch (~eaglewatc@193.226.7.12) |
| 22:19.52 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@c-4f662612-74736162.cust.telenor.se) |
| 22:21.03 | rapacity | what would be the simplest way to limit a user's cpu share ? |
| 22:22.52 | abrotman | a ruler across the knuckles |
| 22:23.10 | Amarande | shock treatment |
| 22:23.45 | *** join/#debian neibo (~bingen@101.83-213-27.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) |
| 22:24.07 | paipimenta | thank you debian peeps!! |
| 22:24.08 | *** join/#debian nhandler (~nhandler@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nhandler) |
| 22:24.21 | *** join/#debian gravity (~david@void.printf.net) |
| 22:24.35 | *** join/#debian cahoot (~radix@82.183.196.76) |
| 22:24.35 | *** join/#debian cahoot (~radix@pdpc/supporter/active/cahoot) |
| 22:24.57 | abrotman | peers at gravity |
| 22:25.08 | gravity | waves to AbsoluteBeginner |
| 22:25.16 | gravity | Wow... tab complete fail |
| 22:25.20 | abrotman | heh |
| 22:25.22 | abrotman | hiya! |
| 22:25.26 | AbsoluteBeginner | huh ? |
| 22:25.27 | gravity | Hey! How's it going? |
| 22:25.36 | gravity | AbsoluteBeginner: Sorry, misfire. That was for abrotman |
| 22:25.44 | abrotman | peachy!, not going to be here much longer though |
| 22:25.46 | AbsoluteBeginner | np |
| 22:25.49 | abrotman | (here, #debian) |
| 22:25.53 | gravity | abrotman: No? Where are you going? |
| 22:25.55 | paipimenta | your patience is astounding |
| 22:26.52 | paipimenta | jelly-home: thanks. Titan8990: thanks. |
| 22:26.58 | abrotman | gravity: imax |
| 22:27.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 891] by debhelper |
| 22:27.00 | *** join/#debian rgr (foobar@85.183.18.158) |
| 22:27.25 | *** join/#debian derchris (~derchris@78-86-128-162.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 22:44.26 | *** join/#debian apt (ibot@rikers.org) |
| 22:44.26 | *** topic/#debian is lenny (debian 5.0.4) released /msg dpkg lennyr4 | /msg dpkg etch->lenny | 4.0r8 released /msg dpkg etch | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | channel logs: http://purl.rikers.org/%23debian |
| 22:45.40 | *** join/#debian Theoden (~quassel@c-98-234-161-226.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 22:45.41 | *** join/#debian c4sec (~c4sec@xdsl-87-78-60-247.netcologne.de) |
| 22:45.43 | *** join/#debian kermit (~zip55413@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) |
| 22:47.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 884] by debhelper |
| 22:48.10 | rettub | hi, I've just installed virtualbox on lenny from backports with hints of http://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox#LennyBackports. But if I'll start a machie it fails: The VirtualBox kernel modules do not fit to this version of VirtualBox. The installation of VirtualBox was apparently not successful. ExecutingVirtualBox was apparently not successful. Install log: http://paste.debian.net/61144 Any hints? |
| 22:49.34 | *** join/#debian albondi (~albondee@99-144-131-76.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:50.06 | rettub | maybe this is relevant too: getconf LONG_BIT -> 32 |
| 22:50.58 | rettub | cpu: AMD Athlon X2 6000+ |
| 22:51.25 | *** join/#debian Magic (~Magic@accu234.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 22:54.08 | c4sec | test |
| 22:55.22 | liable | failed |
| 22:55.38 | c4sec | no no |
| 22:56.46 | c4sec | passed |
| 22:57.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 877] by debhelper |
| 23:00.09 | *** join/#debian chrisw1 (~chrisw@160.79.38.244) |
| 23:02.53 | *** part/#debian gravity (~david@void.printf.net) |
| 23:03.56 | *** join/#debian LinkRage (~linkrage@92.247.202.231) |
| 23:04.16 | *** join/#debian neibo (~bingen@101.83-213-27.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) |
| 23:05.10 | *** join/#debian gravity (~david@void.printf.net) |
| 23:05.50 | *** part/#debian gravity (~david@void.printf.net) |
| 23:06.34 | *** join/#debian charzero (~sbyrne@cpe-67-240-131-62.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 23:07.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 869] by debhelper |
| 23:07.25 | *** join/#debian Jguy (~jguy@c-67-175-71-188.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 23:08.04 | *** join/#debian Unode (unode@unaffiliated/unode) |
| 23:08.31 | *** join/#debian lkcl (~lkcl@nat67.mia.three.co.uk) |
| 23:08.54 | *** join/#debian AppDeb (~AppDeb@79.103.8.26.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 23:08.54 | *** part/#debian AppDeb (~AppDeb@79.103.8.26.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 23:08.54 | *** join/#debian AppDeb (~AppDeb@79.103.8.26.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 23:08.54 | *** part/#debian AppDeb (~AppDeb@79.103.8.26.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 23:09.16 | *** join/#debian neibo_ (~bingen@101.83-213-27.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) |
| 23:09.59 | charzero | As there is no loop-aes-modules-2.6.32-trunk-686 for my AES256 disk encryption setup, I installed it with m-a, but now I get "ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: Invalid argument, requested cipher or key length (256 bits) not supported by kernel". Do I have to stay with 2.6.30 or move to dm-crypt? |
| 23:11.32 | themill | !cryptoloop |
| 23:11.32 | dpkg | cryptoloop is, like, a Linux disk encryption module, which uses the Crypto API cryptography framework. Used to create an encrypted file system within a partition or regular file. Deprecated in favor of dm-crypt, disabled in Debian kernel images as of linux-2.6 2.6.32-2 (Debian bug #559755). There is no cryptoloop support in Squeeze. |
| 23:11.42 | *** join/#debian Ambush (ambush@kush.resyn.net) |
| 23:12.05 | charzero | themill: loop-aes and cryptoloop are the same thing? |
| 23:12.19 | *** join/#debian kokkafasas (~myself@host88-221-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 23:12.32 | *** part/#debian GeetarJake (~jgreen@216.207.124.226) |
| 23:14.58 | *** join/#debian rgr (foobar@85.183.18.158) |
| 23:15.19 | *** join/#debian fastPutty (~fastPutty@67.55.32.52) |
| 23:15.38 | *** part/#debian c4sec (~c4sec@xdsl-87-78-60-247.netcologne.de) |
| 23:16.52 | *** join/#debian pl4yer0ne (~pl4yer0ne@unaffiliated/pl4yer0ne) |
| 23:17.20 | *** join/#debian Sai-- (~sia@62.44.135.30) |
| 23:18.29 | *** join/#debian c4sec (~Marc@xdsl-87-78-60-247.netcologne.de) |
| 23:20.16 | c4sec | so, jetzt auch mit realnamen da. guten abend zusammen |
| 23:22.20 | streuner__ | c4sec: english please |
| 23:24.13 | c4sec | is this channel not the german debain channel? |
| 23:24.18 | streuner | c4sec: we speak here mostly in english... |
| 23:24.30 | streuner | !de |
| 23:24.30 | dpkg | deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 23:25.02 | *** join/#debian rgr (foobar@85.183.18.158) |
| 23:25.13 | c4sec | thank you dpkg! |
| 23:25.26 | streuner | dpkg, what are you? |
| 23:25.26 | dpkg | I am an infobot. For more info see <infobot>. |
| 23:26.59 | *** join/#debian MrLee_Work (~Top@82.151.225.30.adsl.griffin.net.uk) |
| 23:27.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 861] by debhelper |
| 23:27.29 | c4sec | this is irc.freenode.net ?! |
| 23:27.34 | streuner | yes |
| 23:27.49 | *** join/#debian tilung (~plt@93-97-26-141.zone5.bethere.co.uk) |
| 23:29.30 | c4sec | i do not understand |
| 23:30.01 | streuner | which bit didnt you understand? |
| 23:30.01 | c4sec | channel.debian.de wrote "#debian.de ist der deutschsprachige Channel auf Freenode, OFTC, und im IRCNet zum Thema Debian. " |
| 23:30.08 | *** join/#debian rgr (foobar@85.183.18.158) |
| 23:30.26 | streuner | thats IRCnet |
| 23:30.40 | *** join/#debian willmore (~willmore@c-24-13-1-200.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 23:31.03 | *** join/#debian xinshun (~sinsun@61-62-24-10-adsl-tpe.static.so-net.net.tw) |
| 23:31.24 | *** join/#debian sejo (~SeJo@freenode/staff/sejo) |
| 23:31.50 | streuner | but the sentence is right, no matter if you are in OFTC or freenode or IRCnet - german channels are mostly ended with -de |
| 23:34.05 | *** join/#debian lee_ (~lee@2001:8b0:ffb3:0:223:4dff:fe1b:e4e9) |
| 23:34.28 | c4sec | spricht man hier nun auch deutsch oder nicht? |
| 23:34.47 | streuner | c4sec: no, we speak english here |
| 23:34.48 | c4sec | ok sorry |
| 23:34.57 | c4sec | dot de |
| 23:35.03 | streuner | sure |
| 23:35.04 | *** join/#debian helpme (~d31ec065@gateway/web/freenode/x-finscoikelcpjjeg) |
| 23:35.06 | helpme | how much download is a youtube that is in standard quality that goes for a few minutes? |
| 23:35.09 | c4sec | i have not see the dot |
| 23:35.41 | c4sec | and it is my first time with debian and irc |
| 23:36.36 | *** join/#debian swygue (~rheron@p86-89.acedsl.com) |
| 23:36.40 | *** part/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@141-189-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 23:37.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 852] by debhelper |
| 23:38.21 | c4sec | thank you, streuner. bye |
| 23:38.22 | *** join/#debian rgr (foobar@85.183.18.158) |
| 23:39.33 | streuner | np (no problem) |
| 23:40.16 | macrobat | helpme: i have a 9 min .flv here that is 26M |
| 23:40.29 | helpme | what about 3 mins |
| 23:40.55 | helpme | on average videos I watch are 3 mins |
| 23:41.22 | macrobat | 26 / 3 . can't be done, i'll leave the realm of integers |
| 23:41.38 | petemc | heh |
| 23:41.43 | zinx | macrobat: 26 / 3 modulo 1<<32 can be done! |
| 23:41.48 | macrobat | they are different sizes, download a few and look for yourself |
| 23:41.53 | themill | Approximately pi. That should be good enough. |
| 23:43.04 | zinx | macrobat: the answer: 1431655774 |
| 23:43.16 | macrobat | you can convert them to another format. will take less resources to play |
| 23:44.17 | *** join/#debian pl4yer0ne (~pl4yer0ne@unaffiliated/pl4yer0ne) |
| 23:45.29 | *** join/#debian nm9 (~nader@213.217.53.45) |
| 23:45.31 | *** join/#debian Amorphous (jan@unaffiliated/amorphous) |
| 23:45.42 | unlofl | I've just encountered the most bizzare bug I've ever seen. I have a box thats been acting up (random lock up, misc glitches) running lenny with xen. |
| 23:46.10 | unlofl | I gziped a disk image, coppied it to another system, and tried to extract it, only to find it was corrupt |
| 23:46.29 | nm9 | hi, I install flashplayer9 but it's works on epiphany, but iceweasel not |
| 23:46.37 | unlofl | the md5sums on the two systems were different, but it seemed like a random fluke, so I ran rsync again |
| 23:46.45 | unlofl | it was corrupt again, then I looked closer |
| 23:47.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 846] by debhelper |
| 23:47.23 | unlofl | the disk.img.gz file on the original system appeared to be changing for no reason! It had a different md5sum every time I ran it, even though it stayed the exact same size |
| 23:48.06 | *** join/#debian rgr (foobar@85.183.18.158) |
| 23:48.08 | unlofl | now I've booted from a rescue cd, the file is fine (no longer changing) and I've transfered/extracted on another system |
| 23:48.24 | unlofl | any thoughts on wtf I just encountered? |
| 23:48.26 | *** join/#debian ciphernaut (~mgrigull@nat/redhat/x-qaauvtbgvcooinan) |
| 23:49.16 | *** join/#debian trurl (~trurl@eth23.net) |
| 23:49.22 | trurl | hi |
| 23:50.40 | *** join/#debian topgun21 (~psmith@adsl-144-61-119.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 23:51.24 | topgun21 | How does one install internetexplore inn debian so that regular users can use it? |
| 23:51.41 | *** join/#debian Ambush (ambush@kush.resyn.net) |
| 23:52.11 | *** join/#debian rgr (foobar@85.183.18.158) |
| 23:52.18 | heavenquake | topgun21: one checketh out wine and ies4linux |
| 23:52.35 | themill | "don't" on so many levels ... |
| 23:52.59 | topgun21 | Ineed ie for my webdesign class |
| 23:53.36 | heavenquake | themill: http://saveie6.com/ ;) |
| 23:53.59 | *** join/#debian matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) |
| 23:54.16 | *** join/#debian kokkafasas (~myself@host88-221-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 23:54.19 | *** join/#debian xdr (~xdr@h-238-149.A219.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 23:54.35 | *** join/#debian arn (~arn@86-44-135-170-dynamic.b-ras2.cld.dublin.eircom.net) |
| 23:54.54 | *** join/#debian jjmiv (~Mahoney@98.114.54.35) |
| 23:54.59 | macrobat | speaking of which. whats the pkg to install a linux version of clippy? |
| 23:55.14 | topgun21 | heavenquake, how do i secifi an alternate root folder for ies4linu instalation wizard? |
| 23:57.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 852] by debhelper |
| 23:57.16 | macrobat | ah, found it http://vigor.sourceforge.net/ |
| 23:57.41 | *** join/#debian raz0 (~raz0@x1-6-00-18-4d-e8-79-94.k687.webspeed.dk) |
| 23:58.41 | *** part/#debian arn (~arn@86-44-135-170-dynamic.b-ras2.cld.dublin.eircom.net) |
| 23:58.59 | *** join/#debian psheldr (~Miranda@217.13.173.45) |
