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| 00:22.59 | kokkafasas | debian miss libquill-dev |
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| 00:25.24 | nm9 | hi, I install flashplayer9 but it's works on epiphany, but iceweasel not |
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| 00:29.28 | kokkafasas | install it from repo |
| 00:29.38 | kokkafasas | works fine for me |
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| 00:31.25 | paissad | hi all, i've create some users in my server (webmaster,foo,bar ...) ... i've configured postfix, but the matter is that when i send an email from my gmail to my server ( to webmaster@mydomain ) .... i don't get it anywhere |
| 00:31.56 | paissad | but if i send an email from gmail to my regular user "paissad" ( paissad@mydomain ), i get it /Var/mail/paissad |
| 00:32.32 | paissad | where do i mistake in my configuration, do you have any idea ? |
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| 00:35.52 | Tramp | paissad: I'd first check logs and then ask #postfix |
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| 00:43.13 | mst | is there a dpkg command to say "tell me which package file /usr/bin/foo on my disk came from"? (or apt) - which man page to look at would be welcome :) |
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| 00:44.18 | visof | hi |
| 00:44.54 | visof | if i did that alias : alias la="ls -la" |
| 00:45.20 | visof | is there a file to add that alias to be permanent ?? |
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| 00:45.47 | themill | mst: dpkg -S or dlocate |
| 00:46.12 | mst | themill: thanks very much |
| 00:46.48 | Elshar | visof, You could probably put that in your .profile |
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| 00:48.15 | visof | Elshar .profile or .bashrc ? |
| 00:48.29 | visof | and what should i add exactly ? |
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| 00:49.34 | beardy | visof: The alias you wish to add. Use .bashrc and include .bashrc in your .bash_profile to have it in all situations, login shells, and others. |
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| 00:51.19 | visof | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:52.42 | beardy | visof: Yes. |
| 00:52.50 | lgbr | When I run `gpg --recv-keys 9AA38DCD55BE302B` I get "gpg: fatal: can't create directory `/root/.gnupg': Permission denied" Even though I am root and /root is 755. What is wrong? |
| 00:52.59 | beardy | visof: There are already aliases there to look at, too. |
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| 00:54.30 | visof | beardy thanks man |
| 00:54.39 | beardy | visof: You're welcome :) |
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| 00:55.00 | visof | another question , is there a file that should responsible for startup program ? |
| 00:55.16 | visof | ~/.xinitrc ?? |
| 00:55.17 | apt | ~/.xinitrc is the traditional personal startup script used by xinit/startx, but in Debian ~/.xsession is preferred. xdm and startx use ~/.xsession; gdm uses ~/.gnomerc instead. |
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| 00:55.29 | visof | ok |
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| 00:55.33 | beardy | :) |
| 00:55.45 | lgbr | oooh nevermind. permission denied because it's nfs mounted |
| 00:55.54 | beardy | Best automatic bot selfhelp ever. |
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| 01:00.43 | kokkafasas | mst apt-file search |
| 01:00.47 | kokkafasas | msaizar: |
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| 01:02.26 | gremlin133 | hey everyone, i installed mod-mono for apache2.. but when I access aspx pages it just serves them as files |
| 01:02.38 | gremlin133 | i checked the module config and its added the types for it.. |
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| 01:11.14 | TrueDD | Good night all |
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| 01:32.27 | jvm_ | hi. using debian etch, courier, postfix; i add a few e-mail addresses (after it worked for two years) and suddenly i get error messages "Feb 24 01:20:01 v1638 couriertcpd: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/fam--" in /var/log/mail.log and e-mails are not received. any hint on what's wrong? |
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| 01:50.30 | planet8 | For some crazy reason I can't remember the command to list network devices and other devices. I keep thinking about something like "pcims" or "pscmi" or something.. Anyone who remembers the right command? |
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| 01:54.37 | Tramp | !lspci |
| 01:54.37 | dpkg | i heard lspci is a PCI utility to list all PCI devices. It requires kernel 2.1.82 or later. In the pciutils package. Ask me about <pciids>, <pciid> or <hcl>. Use http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ to match pciids to devices for the latest kernel. |
| 01:54.44 | Tramp | planet8: ^^ that? |
| 01:54.53 | planet8 | Tramp, thanks man! :-) |
| 01:54.58 | Tramp | yw |
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| 01:56.50 | octo_ | why are some repos browsable with a web browser, but some are Forbidden, but are accessable through package managers? |
| 01:57.34 | adb | octo_, URL examples |
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| 02:04.40 | beardy | octo_: misconfiguration on the particular mirror you are browsing |
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| 02:10.29 | asodifj | DCC SEND C:////////////////////////////////////// |
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| 02:11.30 | liable | !ops asodifj dcc tard |
| 02:11.30 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: liable complains about: asodifj dcc tard |
| 02:11.31 | adb | asodifj, spam |
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| 02:13.06 | liable | danke |
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| 02:16.23 | dvs | as if that would work in Debian. ;-) |
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| 02:18.11 | adb | dvs, maybe using wine ;) |
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| 02:18.54 | airwalker | morgen |
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| 02:19.24 | airwalker | sorry |
| 02:19.32 | airwalker | morning |
| 02:19.53 | airwalker | need some help with synaptic |
| 02:20.14 | airwalker | it won't take my passwords |
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| 02:21.29 | airwalker | i tryed the user and root password |
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| 02:22.00 | airwalker | the sreen just filckers and that was it |
| 02:22.36 | adb | on debian ? |
| 02:22.45 | kj4 | airwalker: try changing the size of your terminal window (if you are in X) |
| 02:22.55 | airwalker | besides i had trouble with the graphical install |
| 02:23.30 | airwalker | @kj4 why would that change anything? |
| 02:23.33 | kj4 | airwalker: if x is broken synaptic wont run. use aptitude |
| 02:23.48 | airwalker | gnome works |
| 02:23.51 | kj4 | airwalker, i was thinking wrong at first, sorry. terminal window won't affect it |
| 02:24.29 | kj4 | how are you launching synaptic? |
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| 02:26.49 | airwalker | the trouble is that the passwd prompt for synaptic wont take even the root pwd and after i tried one pwd after another i only get the pwd prompt to flicker and disappear its all graphical in gnome |
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| 02:27.16 | airwalker | i use the gnome desktop |
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| 02:27.38 | kj4 | airwalker:gksudo synaptic from a terminal |
| 02:27.46 | airwalker | system>synaptic |
| 02:27.55 | kj4 | try gksudo synaptic |
| 02:28.00 | airwalker | ill try |
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| 02:30.09 | airwalker | mom |
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| 02:36.14 | wonack | After a recent upgrade, cannot login to kdm. Response to login is a blank screen for a few seconds and then return to login screen. already 'copy -r' from /etc/kde3/kdm from backup. no effect. |
| 02:38.16 | wonack | am i online? |
| 02:38.40 | adb | wonack, sid ? |
| 02:38.52 | wonack | adb: 'testing'. |
| 02:40.04 | adb | judd, versions kdm |
| 02:40.04 | judd | kdm -- etch-security: 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6etch1; etch: 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6etch2; etch-backports: 4:3.5.7-4~bpo40+1; lenny: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6; squeeze: 4:4.3.4-3; sid: 4:4.3.4-4 |
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| 02:43.08 | adb | wonack, 'testing' has kde4.3 .. try to redo/finish the upgrade |
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| 02:43.50 | wonack | thks, surfing for more info. could be a startx problem. |
| 02:44.09 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:52.33 | wonack | adb: the trouble is, the upgrade also screw up my comm. the adsl is down. |
| 02:54.37 | wonack | is #debian often so quiet? |
| 02:54.57 | adb | ifdown eth0 / ifup eth0 works ? |
| 02:56.13 | wonack | adb: the device appears in ifconfig. |
| 02:56.36 | adb | so it works ? |
| 02:57.04 | wonack | got to start debian to check. i am now on window. running a dual boot system. |
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| 03:08.16 | Amarande | pbbt dual boot |
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| 03:14.50 | PiousMinion | Hi, I accidentally removed the "debian-sys-maint" user from mysql and now I have trouble restarting it. How would I go about recreating this user properly? |
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| 03:42.47 | airwalker_ | oh man I had enought debian for now |
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| 03:58.10 | mst | hmm |
| 03:58.27 | mst | I am failing to work out what about my system tells apt/dpkg that it's i386 and to use relevant packages |
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| 03:59.54 | mst | anybody care to throw me a man page? |
| 04:00.21 | beardy | !sources.list |
| 04:00.21 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 04:00.34 | beardy | mst: ^^^ |
| 04:00.34 | mst | uname -a is i686, the perl -V is i486, the package is i386 |
| 04:00.53 | mst | beardy: I see no mention of the arch in that config file. |
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| 04:01.11 | mst | first place I looked, sorry, should've said |
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| 04:01.50 | beardy | mst: That's true. Good question. |
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| 04:02.38 | cbx | Hey everyone, need some suggestions for a network install. |
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| 04:02.48 | cbx | We're doing a debian installfest on 20 pc's |
| 04:02.53 | mst | grep -r i386 /etc/apt /etc/dpkg /etc/debconf.conf # nothing except for a comment in sources.list |
| 04:03.00 | mst | beardy: any other etc trees I could try? |
| 04:03.53 | liable | if you are using an arch other than i386, it will say in sources |
| 04:04.03 | cbx | 20 pc's with cd rom drives and working ethernet. Could I put the DVD iso's on one system, and use that as a source for the rest of the installs? |
| 04:04.04 | mst | ahhh |
| 04:04.30 | mst | liable: any thoughts on a command for determining system arch? grep sources.list foir an arch and assume i386 if not? |
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| 04:04.58 | ranix | cbx: you would need something like nfs |
| 04:05.10 | PiousMinion | cbx: could set up one as a cacheing web proxy or set up a caching apt proxy. :) |
| 04:05.11 | ranix | cbx: I don't think that's a trivial thing to accomplish |
| 04:05.26 | liable | mst: i guess that should work |
| 04:05.48 | cbx | ranix, I'm reading on that, but its got more to with booting from the network. I can boot from the first dvd. I want to use the network as a source for the installer |
| 04:05.55 | mst | liable: just seemed like something there'd be a nicer way to achieve |
| 04:05.57 | cbx | can that be done ^^ PiousMinion ? |
| 04:06.00 | Backup | how do i add conntrack to iptables? |
| 04:06.02 | cbx | and where should I look? |
| 04:06.25 | ranix | cbx: you don't need more than the first dvd anyway |
| 04:06.27 | beardy | liable: Actually not.. the one I'm checking on is x86_64 |
| 04:06.31 | liable | cbx: look in the appendix of the install manual, it has a section on preseeding, which though may not do exactly what you're after, but it'll certainly be handy if you need to install so many boxen |
| 04:06.32 | ranix | in fact you don't even need that |
| 04:06.45 | liable | beardy: oh, hum. really? |
| 04:06.52 | PiousMinion | cbx: there are a few things last I checked that did apt proxies. just 'apt-cache search apt proxy'. If you want the web proxy go with squid. |
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| 04:06.59 | beardy | liable: Also checked on a sparc64 now. Yes. |
| 04:07.05 | cbx | I'll check the proxy method |
| 04:07.31 | cbx | liable, ranix the systems don't have dvd, they have cd drives. I'm reading the manual and still didn't find what I'm looking for. Though the cache proxy should work |
| 04:07.31 | liable | beardy: hrm, i suck then.. :) |
| 04:07.53 | beardy | liable: So did I, so don't worry. :) |
| 04:08.02 | ranix | cbx: use the netinst CD and an act proxy like PiousMinion suggests |
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| 04:08.17 | ranix | or you could boot from nfs and automatically debootstrap |
| 04:08.23 | ranix | which is also hot |
| 04:08.29 | ranix | but nontrivial |
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| 04:09.39 | matthewpucc | anyone have experience with HA xen clusters |
| 04:09.41 | matthewpucc | ? |
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| 04:13.22 | beardy | mst: 'dpkg --print-architecture' |
| 04:14.13 | beardy | liable: ^^ |
| 04:14.19 | liable | aye |
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| 04:15.17 | beardy | !which architecture |
| 04:15.17 | dpkg | i guess which architecture is "dpkg --print-architecture" or "dpkg -s libc6 | grep ^Architecture" |
| 04:16.08 | adb | cpu: Cell Broadband Engine |
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| 04:16.53 | wheee | hi, I'm trying to install debian from a USB stick |
| 04:17.06 | wheee | I tried with unetbootin but it won't boot either |
| 04:17.13 | wheee | <= clueless |
| 04:17.41 | f00li5h[HireMe] | wheee: what's the error? |
| 04:17.46 | wheee | by "it won't work" I mean it won't boot |
| 04:17.59 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:18.02 | wheee | but I have no problem booting from a USB flash drive |
| 04:18.10 | wheee | aw cool thanks |
| 04:19.56 | mst | beardy: stonking. thanks VERY much. |
| 04:21.53 | beardy | mst: :) |
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| 04:33.13 | Amarande | muhoo: use only passworded I: lines |
| 04:33.29 | muhoo | thank |
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| 04:33.55 | ddalton | hi, how do i get w3m-el working in debian? im using squeeze with emacs23 |
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| 04:34.37 | dbbolton | i can't open it with openoffice |
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| 04:39.39 | mst | beardy: bailing; this is irssi window 442 and I don't have b/w for another help channel. cheers again. apologies in advance for any future stupid questions :) |
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| 05:21.35 | kompulsive | hmm. |
| 05:21.51 | thrashold | !ops old__man has an onjoin spam |
| 05:21.52 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: thrashold complains about: old__man has an onjoin spam |
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| 05:22.36 | liable | i bet he's a dirty old man too |
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| 05:26.48 | k\t | !old__man |
| 05:26.59 | liable | hmm? |
| 05:27.30 | k\t | kindof - spare the moment type of exuberance... |
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| 05:39.04 | OrigenAE | Hi All, I'm building a fileserver and thought as a different spin on this build I'll use truecrypt to encrypt the array. If I create an RAID array using mdadm will I be able to add disks/remove disks /rebuild the array on the fly and not loose data? |
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| 05:41.40 | RickRocK | why ssh refuse the connection if my ip is 70.26.206.138 and i write in /etc/hosts.allow sshd : 70.0.0.0-70.255.255.128 : allow refuse my connection and i try sshd : 70.0.0.0/70.255.255.128 : allow same refuse again my connection why ?\ |
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| 05:42.04 | Devastator | RickRocK firewall? |
| 05:42.11 | RickRocK | no |
| 05:42.21 | RickRocK | if i delete this line i can connect |
| 05:42.28 | linuxjones317 | what packages do i need to install to get all the screen resolutions? as of right now when i go to the resolutions tab under the main gnome menu, the only one there is 800*600 i know my monitor can do better than that |
| 05:42.53 | RickRocK | Devastator you can see the hosts.allow here http://pastebin.com/ELR5HUyu |
| 05:43.47 | Devastator | dunno.. |
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| 05:48.07 | CompWizrd | um, man hosts.deny.. i don't see any option for using a - |
| 05:48.46 | CompWizrd | RickRocK: is 70.0.0.0/8 what you're trying to do? |
| 05:49.19 | karlpinc | linuxjones317: It's a matter of having the right driver installed. |
| 05:49.23 | RickRocK | why /8 at the end ? |
| 05:50.23 | linuxjones317 | karlpinc, i know i have an invidia card, but dont know which one, i believe its onboard, is there an easy way to find out what driver i need? |
| 05:50.53 | karlpinc | linuxjones317: type "lspci -nn" and report the results here (just for the video) |
| 05:51.20 | CompWizrd | RickRocK: netmask |
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| 05:51.38 | karlpinc | linuxjones317: Someone else will have to help from there. |
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| 05:53.27 | linuxjones317 | 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation C51 [GeForce 6150 LE] [10de:0241] (rev a2)... is that the answer to all my questions? haha |
| 05:54.45 | streuner_ | linuxjones317: /msg dpkg nvidia |
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| 06:00.36 | streuner_ | linuxjones317: what kind of driver do you actually use? |
| 06:03.03 | RickRocK | why ssh refuse the connection if my ip is 70.26.206.138 and i write in /etc/hosts.allow sshd : 70.0.0.0-70.255.255.128 : allow refuse my connection and i try sshd : 70.0.0.0/70.255.255.128 : allow same refuse again my connection why ?\ |
| 06:03.25 | karlpinc | RickRocK: Bad syntax. |
| 06:04.40 | RickRocK | mmm |
| 06:06.40 | linuxjones317 | streuner_, i literally just finished the install, havnt done anything to the system besides apt-get xchat to figure this out, haha, so whatever one the installed chose for it, haha |
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| 06:07.56 | karlpinc | linuxjones317: type: aptitude search '~ivideo' to find out what driver packages are installed. |
| 06:08.21 | karlpinc | !tell linuxjones317 about why aptitude |
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| 06:09.20 | streuner_ | dpkg, listvals xorg.conf |
| 06:09.22 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'xorg.conf' by value (15 of 26): ati+xorg blankscreen ;; empty xorg.conf ;; fglrx one-liner ;; kbd+mouse broken ;; key delay ;; nvidia squeeze ;; openchrome ;; qotd208 ;; resolution ;; savage ;; screensaver ;; xmd5 ;; xorg config ;; xorg config squeeze ;; xorgmd5. |
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| 06:11.33 | streuner_ | linuxjones317: should be nv or VESA then |
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| 06:13.06 | streuner_ | linuxjones317: VESA is limited, to find out what driver you are actually use, just look into /var/log/X*.log |
| 06:13.57 | RickRocK | why ssh refuse the connection if my ip is 70.26.206.138 and i write in /etc/hosts.allow sshd : 70.0.0.0-70.255.255.128 : allow refuse my connection and i try sshd : 70.0.0.0/70.255.255.128 : allow same refuse again my connection why ?\ |
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| 06:16.31 | streuner_ | dpkg, factinfo xorg config |
| 06:16.31 | dpkg | xorg config -- created by themill <n=stuart@unaffiliated/themill> at Wed Jul 29 23:06:10 2009 (209 days); last modified at Tue Sep 29 17:15:28 2009 by themill!n=stuart@unaffiliated/themill; it has been requested 169 times, last by streuner_, 6m 4s ago. |
| 06:16.35 | streuner_ | hm |
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| 06:18.19 | pickcoder | I'm having issues with ypbind on Lenny for some reason |
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| 06:22.45 | pickcoder | portmap was b0rked from the install |
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| 06:24.18 | streuner_ | rc portmap 6.0.0-1 RPC port mapper |
| 06:25.10 | pickcoder | there is an open bug report to make dpkg ask if you want to start ypbind |
| 06:25.14 | pickcoder | I agree |
| 06:25.50 | pickcoder | if you configure for the wrong nis server then it screws up ypbind and portmap does not get configured because the service will fail to start |
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| 06:40.23 | rgr | anyone using surfraw here with debian squeeze and a non default graphical browser? Set the setting to conkeror but doesnt work |
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| 06:41.55 | cwells | hi, how can I completely remove a broken package? |
| 06:42.16 | cwells | something equivalent to rpm's --force --nodeps |
| 06:42.55 | streuner_ | apt-get remove --purge <package>? |
| 06:43.02 | cwells | that fails |
| 06:43.11 | cwells | it's installed from a .deb |
| 06:43.22 | cwells | openqrm, to name names |
| 06:43.24 | streuner_ | try dpkg then |
| 06:43.29 | cwells | yeah, no luck |
| 06:43.58 | streuner_ | hm |
| 06:44.02 | cwells | apparently package tries to do stuff that fails, which makes the whole process fail |
| 06:44.06 | streuner_ | sounds like a hard case |
| 06:44.10 | cwells | can't uninstall, can't reinstall |
| 06:44.11 | sep | cwells, "it fails" if you want help, state the error messages |
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| 06:45.19 | cwells | http://pastebin.com/DDckCZNT |
| 06:45.21 | cwells | there's one |
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| 06:46.20 | streuner_ | hm |
| 06:46.27 | streuner_ | !unix lessons |
| 06:46.27 | dpkg | methinks unix lessons is (1) Don't change the permissions, (2) back up your data, (3) keep it simple, stupid, (4) read the fscking manual, (5) don't fsck with package management, (6) don't type anything you don't understand, (7) always have a boot floppy or CD, (8) read your log files, (9) the FIRST error is the one that counts, (10) don't leave your root shell until you TEST your changes, (11) don't be root when you don't have to be |
| 06:46.35 | streuner_ | read (9) |
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| 06:47.11 | streuner_ | # |
| 06:47.12 | streuner_ | /var/lib/dpkg/info/openqrm.prerm: line 41: reload: command not found |
| 06:47.14 | sep | cwells, personaly i would look at line 41 in /var/lib/dpkg/info/openqrm.prerm, |
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| 06:47.38 | cwells | streuner_: what's "reload"? |
| 06:47.45 | streuner_ | 41? |
| 06:47.54 | streuner_ | no idea |
| 06:47.55 | sep | cwells, we can not know. without reading that file ! |
| 06:47.59 | cwells | ok |
| 06:48.20 | streuner_ | there a real dirty hack |
| 06:48.44 | streuner_ | just mv the info files of the package into /tmp and re-run the remove command again |
| 06:49.07 | streuner_ | better, just fix the error (script) |
| 06:49.22 | cwells | yeah, i'll probably not do that |
| 06:49.32 | streuner_ | 2 or 1? |
| 06:49.40 | cwells | fix the script |
| 06:49.45 | streuner_ | good... |
| 06:50.25 | cwells | where are the info files? |
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| 06:50.33 | sep | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:50.47 | streuner_ | should be in /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 06:51.25 | cwells | thanks |
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| 06:53.37 | cwells | streuner_: that seemed to do the trick.. thanks a lot. |
| 06:53.50 | streuner_ | np |
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| 07:06.20 | yo_rmn | I keep trying to install Debian in my VM. ALWAYS get thee same error: a step has failed, and I cant' continue |
| 07:07.25 | beardy | yo_rmn: Which VM, exact error message? |
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| 07:08.19 | yo_rmn | hm... Vbox OSE - a step has failed: choose and install programs (in spanish) |
| 07:08.47 | yo_rmn | I tried by skipping and installing grub, don't work |
| 07:09.15 | yo_rmn | and by changing apt config, this fails too |
| 07:09.28 | yo_rmn | not th first time but after error |
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| 07:11.07 | yo_rmn | coul this be due to internet connection? |
| 07:12.14 | lazy^ | from where you're trying to install those packages ? |
| 07:12.23 | lazy^ | from CD/DVD or repos ? |
| 07:12.30 | yo_rmn | net replic |
| 07:13.01 | lazy^ | i assume you used dhcp to get ip-address ? |
| 07:13.09 | lazy^ | did u have any errors with that |
| 07:13.12 | yo_rmn | start on dvd, then choose internet option, we hav 3 possible in Argentina |
| 07:13.22 | yo_rmn | u assume correctly |
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| 07:13.43 | lazy^ | and was the dhcp-configuration succesfully ? |
| 07:13.48 | yo_rmn | no, dhcp works fine |
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| 07:14.43 | yo_rmn | so it sarts failing by saying: wrong option in debconf: spanish, (not installed) it happened yd too |
| 07:15.23 | yo_rmn | and then i chhoose eng, i can change later i fugre, but no working either, and no details |
| 07:15.35 | yo_rmn | I figure* |
| 07:15.43 | lazy^ | and you're trying to install lenny ? |
| 07:16.01 | lazy^ | if dhcp-works, you should be able to use repos.. or do you have proxy ? |
| 07:16.02 | yo_rmn | lenny, yah, I dl DVD1 |
| 07:16.09 | yo_rmn | no proxy, no |
| 07:16.48 | yo_rmn | one time I used auto-install (SAME ISO) and it did'nt get xorg right |
| 07:17.00 | yo_rmn | but it installed |
| 07:17.35 | lazy^ | try to dl it again, |
| 07:17.43 | lazy^ | have you check md5 checksum ? |
| 07:17.48 | lazy^ | *checked |
| 07:17.51 | yo_rmn | I hav netinst and minimal too |
| 07:18.07 | yo_rmn | wich should I use? |
| 07:18.14 | yo_rmn | which* |
| 07:18.36 | yo_rmn | no, not md5sum IDK how |
| 07:18.53 | lazy^ | 32/64bit ? |
| 07:19.34 | yo_rmn | 32. this same iso I recorded on DVD and used it on MY pc, i had problems and came back to Ubuntu |
| 07:19.40 | yo_rmn | but IT DID INSTALL!! |
| 07:20.08 | yo_rmn | and now I want to lean more first, so I can finnaly go into Debian |
| 07:20.29 | lazy^ | and do you have latest virtualbox ? |
| 07:20.46 | lazy^ | try 32bit cd |
| 07:21.00 | yo_rmn | from ubuntu soft center (Iguess it's last) |
| 07:21.35 | yo_rmn | I will dl 32 bit cd now, I hav this on dvd, 32 bit number one |
| 07:21.37 | lazy^ | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 07:22.17 | yo_rmn | so I need only th first right? |
| 07:22.37 | lazy^ | y |
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| 07:22.45 | yo_rmn | done, I dl tis, nd it's best since i rather sqweeze |
| 07:23.08 | bohne | hi, why can this happen: unable to execute new pre-installation script: No such file or directory |
| 07:23.11 | yo_rmn | thx, I will be back to learn more ^^ |
| 07:23.21 | bohne | i thought preinst is not required |
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| 07:25.50 | mischief | what is the best way to create a xen domU with debian? |
| 07:26.06 | mischief | er, rather, create a xen domU running debian. |
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| 08:07.30 | davidef1986 | hi, today morning one of my lenny setup hang, all services were running fine except ssh. when i try to login it ask for user and pass as always then it hangs without reaching bash, the same happen trying to login from console. on the screen appeas "get-data.pl kernel hung" but i didn't found any info on the net about that. how can I fix it ? (after a reboot it works again) |
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| 08:08.45 | webPragmatist | can you tail -f a bz2 file? |
| 08:09.08 | karlpinc | davidef1986: Is a disk full? |
| 08:09.47 | streuner_ | webPragmatist: sure, but it would be senceless? |
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| 08:10.15 | webPragmatist | streuner_: well no because i am piping to it too/ |
| 08:10.47 | webPragmatist | what's the command again to be able to pipe to two things |
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| 08:13.56 | manixor | Hello all. |
| 08:14.11 | manixor | How can I install flash player for debian amd64? |
| 08:16.00 | davidef1986 | karlpinc: no it's no |
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| 08:16.14 | yo_rmn | what happens if i choose not ot use an internet replic? wht do i need to chnge later? |
| 08:16.15 | karlpinc | !tell manixor about flash |
| 08:16.19 | webPragmatist | tac? |
| 08:16.49 | davidef1986 | karlpinc: i'm locking at log... in last 2 day i have 46 gb of syslog |
| 08:17.06 | karlpinc | davidef1986: Sounds like there could be a clue there. |
| 08:17.08 | yo_rmn | I'm using only CD1 to install |
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| 08:17.23 | karlpinc | !tell yo_rmn about sources.list |
| 08:18.13 | davidef1986 | it say: INFO: task data-get.pl:8730 blocked for more than 120 seconds. and follow the kernel stack trace |
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| 08:18.33 | yo_rmn | which means I don't hav (for now) internet repos? |
| 08:18.40 | yo_rmn | xcuse my ignorance |
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| 08:22.26 | webPragmatist | whats the command to echo to stdout and pipe |
| 08:22.28 | webPragmatist | i forget it |
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| 08:23.04 | davidef1986 | karlpinc: do you have some idea of what cause that ? |
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| 08:34.55 | manixor | karlpinc I install gnash, but steel can't see video on browser...I need to do something else? |
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| 08:35.39 | _KaszpiR_ | what's your longest ssh idle time? |
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| 08:37.45 | yo_rmn | now my system does'nt start. it says: [numbers] BUG: soft lockup - cpu#0 stuck for 61s! [modprobe91] |
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| 08:38.18 | yo_rmn | my system does'nt start. it says: [numbers] BUG: soft lockup - cpu#0 stuck for 61s! [modprobe91] |
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| 08:39.47 | rgr | my debian squeeze is randomly starting up in the wrong resolution. I dont have an xorg.conf. Short of creating one how can I enforce it to start at 1024x768 instead of 800x600. |
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| 08:45.05 | Kamping_Kaiser | you can't. |
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| 08:45.57 | yo_rmn | my system does'nt start. it says: [numbers] BUG: soft lockup - cpu#0 stuck for 61s! [modprobe91] |
| 08:46.02 | mischief | why isn't pcc in debian :( |
| 08:46.07 | Kamping_Kaiser | well, you just need to add the resolutions section of the xorg.conf, but you will need the file |
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| 08:46.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | mischief: no one wants to maintain it? its useless? bad licence? some other reason? |
| 08:47.31 | karlpinc | manixor: There's a "plugin" package too, IIRC. Check the wiki. |
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| 08:50.28 | mischief | Kamping_Kaiser, bad license? them's fightin words sir. |
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| 08:51.56 | Kamping_Kaiser | mischief: i only have a vauge idea what pcc is (bsd c compiler of some sort?). i'm just suggesting reasons it may not be in debian |
| 08:52.15 | Kamping_Kaiser | yo_rmn: if you _actually_ want help, stop parting the channel after asking |
| 08:52.27 | mischief | clang is a package -_- |
| 08:52.46 | yo_rmn | having trouble, not leavong by quitting |
| 08:52.50 | mischief | well, in other news... how do i find the media setting of an interface? |
| 08:52.59 | yo_rmn | sorr |
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| 08:53.03 | yo_rmn | y |
| 08:53.11 | Kamping_Kaiser | mischief: network interface? mii-tool might help |
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| 08:53.31 | quail | evening all, I have a problem with debian testing were when I go on to better my gnome desktop starts to freeze (stutter) and I have to move the mouse to keep it alive, does anyone have ideas to fix the problem? |
| 08:53.34 | Kamping_Kaiser | yo_rmn: try booting with the noacpi boot option (i forget what it is) |
| 08:54.16 | mischief | Kamping_Kaiser, you mean to tell me i cant even check the media setting of an interface without installing a package |
| 08:54.33 | yo_rmn | hm... don't know how, wht to write aftr boot:? |
| 08:55.23 | yo_rmn | linux-image-2.6.32-trunk-noapic? |
| 08:55.28 | Kamping_Kaiser | yo_rmn: the option is 'noacpi', i forget the exacyt format for calling it |
| 08:55.33 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: noacpi |
| 08:55.33 | dpkg | Kamping_Kaiser: i haven't a clue |
| 08:55.36 | Kamping_Kaiser | shame |
| 08:55.50 | Kamping_Kaiser | mischief: there may be another way, but thats the one i've heard of |
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| 08:56.19 | yo_rmn | well if i was ubuntu i'd call the image and set --noapic (I think) |
| 08:56.42 | yo_rmn | I'll tr thisn now thx |
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| 08:57.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | gl |
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| 08:57.32 | MrWax | how can I chmod 777 all dirs and subdirs and files of the dir i am in? |
| 08:58.07 | Kamping_Kaiser | MrWax: using -R (the man page has details like that) |
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| 08:58.26 | cahoot | why do such? |
| 08:58.27 | MrWax | chmod -R * 777 ? |
| 08:58.40 | Kamping_Kaiser | use discresion with a command like that, it can cause you some serious issues if you screw it up. |
| 08:58.41 | aburch | MrWax: man chmod? |
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| 08:59.58 | MrWax | and If I like to search all .php files for a string called die("tests"); how canI best do this? |
| 09:00.15 | Kamping_Kaiser | use grep |
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| 09:00.42 | Kamping_Kaiser | MrWax: tbh, i think you should be finding a basic debian tutorial of some sort. these are questions that are _obscenely_ easy to find answers to on the net |
| 09:01.07 | MrWax | k |
| 09:01.28 | yo_rmn | not wrking, I didn't had all this when I did on m machine I just screwed up by trying lenny>>sqweeze lol |
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| 09:01.35 | MrWax | but can u tell me for now maybe Kamping_Kaiser I need to fix something |
| 09:02.02 | Kamping_Kaiser | slaps yo_rmn about with a small shark |
| 09:02.13 | Kamping_Kaiser | if you don't know what your doing, why the fuck are you installing testing? |
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| 09:02.34 | yo_rmn | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:02.52 | yo_rmn | and. I need to learn, rigt? |
| 09:03.27 | yo_rmn | spanish channel is always full but noone ver answers. too bad |
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| 09:04.00 | Kamping_Kaiser | perhaps you need to be patient, if you keep joining/parting it oesn't inspire people to try and help |
| 09:04.44 | yo_rmn | sorry, I'm used to pidgin |
| 09:05.01 | bohne | hi, why can this happen: unable to execute new pre-installation script: No such file or directory , I thought preinst is not required |
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| 09:05.39 | Kamping_Kaiser | bohne: sounds like a badly made package |
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| 09:05.51 | Kamping_Kaiser | bohne: is it from the debian repositories? |
| 09:05.59 | bohne | Kamping_Kaiser: no I made it |
| 09:06.22 | bohne | bohne: a preinst is not neccessary i thought |
| 09:06.56 | Kamping_Kaiser | bohne: try #debian-mentors on oftc, they'll probably give better help then me :) |
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| 09:07.42 | bohne | Kamping_Kaiser: thank you! |
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| 09:24.31 | neldoreth | hello, can anybody explain me where i can set that qemu should not start in vnc mode? |
| 09:24.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | vnc mode? |
| 09:24.51 | neldoreth | i dont find the configuration so it does not start with -vnc parameter and i do not need a vnc viewer to connect |
| 09:25.16 | Kamping_Kaiser | i've not seen qemu do that |
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| 09:27.21 | mischief | anyone know what signal control-s sends to a program |
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| 09:32.19 | neldoreth | it does on thie machine here - it always starts as a vnc server and i only can connect to it with a vnc viewer |
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| 09:32.49 | Kamping_Kaiser | neldoreth: could there be a bash alias, or something like that involed? |
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| 09:33.14 | Kamping_Kaiser | mischief: historically something to the effect of 'stop scrolling' |
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| 09:34.15 | mischief | Kamping_Kaiser, well, how can i fix that? |
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| 09:34.25 | mischief | or, well, undo it |
| 09:34.32 | cbx | hey, I've sucessfuly booted into a netinstall boot using pxr |
| 09:34.33 | cbx | *pxe |
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| 09:34.49 | cbx | but I have this DVD that I want to use for the pxe install source |
| 09:34.52 | cbx | how do I do that? |
| 09:34.58 | mischief | Kamping_Kaiser, control-q is the answer it seems |
| 09:35.04 | Kamping_Kaiser | mischief: you say it likes its a problem :) ctrl+q should return the screen |
| 09:35.16 | mischief | Kamping_Kaiser, well, i never knew how to undo it until now |
| 09:35.34 | mischief | i want to bind screen's escape key to control-s but it doesnt seem to be working :p |
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| 09:38.45 | jelly | mischief: you'll have to change the tty settings to first stop using ctrl-q and ctrl-s for xon/xoff flow control |
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| 09:39.07 | cbx | Kamping_Kaiser: I'm trying to install debain on this pc without a optical drive. I've gotten so far as to set the network on the pc. However, the iso / dvd is on another pc in the network. Any idea how I could use that instead of an internet mirror? |
| 09:39.32 | neldoreth | Kamping_Kaiser: i checked for that, but i didnt find any - i am using the zsh and checked all zshrc etc files |
| 09:40.01 | sep | cbx, you could use a usbstick and put the iso there. |
| 09:40.20 | cbx | sep: hmm, then? |
| 09:40.34 | sep | cbx, or you can mount the iso across the network probably. but i have not tried that |
| 09:40.48 | Kamping_Kaiser | neldoreth: bugger :/ |
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| 09:41.32 | sep | cbx, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en |
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| 09:50.19 | mischief | jelly, tmux lets me use ctrl-s without any configuration except tmux's config file |
| 09:51.22 | romgo | Hi |
| 09:51.45 | romgo | I'm looking for some help about the ftpsync script in order to setup a debian mirror |
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| 09:52.59 | romgo | I don't really understand the RSYNC_OPTIONS1 and RSYNC_OPTIONS2 if I must use those options or not |
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| 09:55.42 | sep | romgo, are they not set as default ? |
| 09:55.45 | sep | and you can use that |
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| 09:59.15 | mischief | anyone know how i can resize a swap LVM volume |
| 09:59.46 | sep | mischief, stop swap, resize lvm , mkswap , start swap |
| 09:59.57 | romgo | sep: well they are defined but not used by default. So I should uncomment both ? |
| 10:00.34 | sep | romgo, i dont remember. i dont think you need to uncomment them if the defaults are ok. but it's been a while |
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| 10:01.38 | sep | if you uncomment them you are certain of their values :) |
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| 10:07.05 | indego | Is it better to ask here about possibly Debian specific Xen issues or on ##xen? |
| 10:07.28 | mischief | thanks sep. i really dont know why the debian installer makes such heinous partition sizes |
| 10:07.37 | mischief | 450G for /home, 11G for swap? :\ |
| 10:08.09 | mezgani | hello |
| 10:08.42 | sep | mischief, it's a function of your ram iirc. use manual partitioning to get what you want |
| 10:08.46 | mezgani | please can you tell if 3g-modems have are accessible via an interface |
| 10:09.01 | mezgani | like serial port with minicom |
| 10:09.04 | mischief | lol wut |
| 10:09.07 | sep | and /home is rest of the disk |
| 10:09.44 | mischief | sep, the system has 4G ram.. 11G is hardly the age-old rule of thumb 'twice your ram' |
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| 10:10.33 | boon | i get this |
| 10:10.34 | boon | W: GPG error: http://www.ksplice.com etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F7CA6265B6D4038E |
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| 10:10.43 | boon | how to solve it? |
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| 10:12.02 | HandyGandy | If you suspect that a package has gone corrupt, how can you reinstall it ( commandline)? |
| 10:12.07 | streuner_ | visit the website again, there should be the key. But, just use official mirrors... |
| 10:12.28 | streuner_ | apt-get --reinstall install <package> |
| 10:12.41 | mischief | !why aptitude |
| 10:12.42 | streuner_ | read man apt-get and man dpkg |
| 10:12.42 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often be able to come up with a solution where apt-get just gives up. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). Like apt-get, it can also remove or purge one package at the same time as installing others all from the command line or at the Y/n/q/? prompt using its interactive resolver, making it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. |
| 10:12.51 | sep | mischief, debian recipes uses 300% of RAM for swap |
| 10:13.00 | streuner_ | hehe |
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| 10:13.09 | streuner_ | dpkg, slap mischief |
| 10:13.09 | dpkg | strikes a resounding *THWAP* across mischief's face |
| 10:13.14 | HandyGandy | Thanks streuner_ . I did check the man page but that is a bit weird. |
| 10:13.20 | streuner_ | heh |
| 10:13.37 | boon | ?? |
| 10:13.48 | boon | how to solve the GPG |
| 10:13.50 | sep | mischief, if you do not know what swap or a partition is, that is fine. if you know what swap and a partition is you use manual partitioning :) |
| 10:13.56 | boon | what should i install |
| 10:14.32 | mischief | sep, well, i figured it was LVM and i could worry about it later. i dont like to spend ages computing disk partitions |
| 10:15.15 | rvsjoen | you prefer spending twice the time fiddling with lvm afterwards ? :) |
| 10:15.23 | sep | mischief, you make them as small as you need. with lvm you just grow them as needed. heck we even have a scron job script that grows partitions on demand |
| 10:15.39 | sep | that also speeds up mkfs during installation |
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| 10:16.13 | sep | and you can have free space in your volume group after installations, but that is not supported in the guided partitionsing (hence /home the rest of the disk) |
| 10:16.16 | boon | no 1 know? |
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| 10:17.40 | mischief | sep, indeed. in hindsight i should have poked around the partitioning set up now |
| 10:17.51 | mischief | er, s/now/when i installed/ |
| 10:17.55 | sep | boon, are you silly ? i dont think anyone bothers answering something that is the first 2 steps of the instructions http://www.ksplice.com/uptrack/install |
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| 10:18.34 | HandyGandy | My one experience with LVM is that it really really slowed down my computer. |
| 10:19.38 | sep | my experience with lvm is that it's gold, silver, puppies, poneys and da bomb! : i'll never install a machine again without |
| 10:19.41 | sep | :D |
| 10:19.46 | sep | <- fanboi |
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| 10:20.13 | mischief | sep, 'lvs' shows my 'home' LV is still 450G, know how i can fix that |
| 10:20.25 | mischief | i resized it (after unmounting and fscking) to 1G |
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| 10:20.31 | sep | removes alll the tricky questions of getting the partitions right :) groing filesystems on demand online while users are working, snapshots |
| 10:20.37 | sep | *drool* |
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| 10:21.08 | sep | mischief, when reducing filesystems you must first reduce the filesystem inside the lvm before you reduce the lvm |
| 10:21.25 | sep | when growing you must first grow the lvm before you grov the filesystem inside the lvm |
| 10:21.33 | sep | quite logical when you think about it. |
| 10:22.08 | mischief | well yes |
| 10:22.11 | HandyGandy | I must admit I don |
| 10:22.22 | sep | so you resized the filesystem but not the lvm ? |
| 10:22.27 | HandyGandy | don't grov my fs all that much. |
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| 10:23.17 | sep | i grow a lvm daily. ofcourse it can be months beween each time i grow a filesystem on that machine again |
| 10:23.37 | mischief | sep, yea, i guess that is the issue |
| 10:23.46 | sep | so reduce the lv to 1G as well |
| 10:23.55 | mischief | how can i reduce the LV to the exact end of the filesystem? |
| 10:24.02 | sep | i guess df -h woudl tell you that the filesystem is 1G only |
| 10:24.09 | sep | but it's inside a lvm that's 450G |
| 10:24.26 | mischief | yes |
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| 10:24.48 | Rahim | i have backed yp lenny with partimage and it has created these 3 files debian.gz.000 debian.gz.001 and so on. While restroing which image file/part should i choose to restore with partimage? |
| 10:24.51 | mischief | sep, also with LVM do i need to worry about LVs being contiguous? |
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| 10:25.05 | sep | mischief, to be sure not to cut of anything, i usualy lvreduce the lv but make it a bit larger then the fs. |
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| 10:25.22 | sep | then i resize2fs to fill the lv since that's automagically when growing the filesystem |
| 10:25.39 | sep | or you can calculate the fs size exactly and make the lv that size. but i dont bother with the math |
| 10:26.05 | sep | mischief, no. unless you have very spesific needs |
| 10:26.08 | miracle2k | I'm running mysqld in a terminal as part of a script, and I'd like to be able to kill it using Ctrl+C. Any idea how to do that` |
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| 10:26.29 | Rahim | should i choose the 1st file or the last file? |
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| 10:27.53 | mischief | sep, well, in D-I only one VG was created of course |
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| 10:28.22 | mischief | but i want to reduce that VG from using up the whole fs to just a portion |
| 10:28.34 | ShishKabab | Hi. I have a Debian Lenny SSH homeserver which only allows key-based authentication. It suddenly blocked access for one of its users. The permissions of .ssh and its contents are the same as for the user that is still allowed. The authorized_keys file is also still the same. Any ideas what's going on? |
| 10:28.39 | mischief | and of course it cant be smaller than the sum of the size of the LVs in the VG |
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| 10:29.32 | sep | mischief, well i usualy have on vg. only in very special caces do i use more then one |
| 10:29.44 | sep | why do you need another now ? |
| 10:30.38 | mischief | organization, i guess it isnt really necessary |
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| 10:30.57 | cbx | Can anyone help me with a debian network install? I wish to use the i386 iso if possible as a source |
| 10:31.20 | Rahim | can files created by partimage be joined/merged with cat command? |
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| 10:32.30 | sep | Rahim, just tell partimage to use the 000 file |
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| 10:34.51 | Rahim | sep: so it will automatically pick up other split files? |
| 10:35.20 | sep | should |
| 10:35.41 | Rahim | sep: thanks :) |
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| 11:09.57 | tomiondrums | Hi! |
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| 11:10.18 | tomiondrums | Is there sombody who's familiar with samba and kerberos? |
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| 11:11.51 | chessboxing | he i just installed debian on virtualbox. And I did a netinstall. But what I don't get is how it did connect to the internet. How do I do ifconfig because I don't have this command it seems? |
| 11:13.31 | aburch | chessboxing: ip? |
| 11:13.54 | jelly | chessboxing: you do have it, but your PATH might be missing /usr/sbin |
| 11:13.58 | the-dude | tomiondrums: a bit |
| 11:14.14 | jelly | chessboxing: er, make that /sbin |
| 11:14.20 | chessboxing | ok |
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| 11:14.40 | yo_rmn1 | I can't boot (Vbox too) |
| 11:14.44 | chessboxing | indeed :D thanks. |
| 11:14.51 | yo_rmn1 | it says... |
| 11:15.04 | jelly | chessboxing: man 5 interfaces to see The Debian Way of configuring network interfaces |
| 11:15.40 | chessboxing | jelly: are you sometimes on archlinux to? |
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| 11:15.46 | leejongwook | :x |
| 11:15.51 | leejongwook | good night :) |
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| 11:16.38 | tomiondrums | ads_keytab_verify_ticket: krb5_rd_req_return_keyblock_from_keytab(cifs/samba-dc1.swt.wiai.uni-bamberg.de@SWT.WIAI.UNI-BAMBERG.DE) failed: Wrong principal in request |
| 11:16.38 | tomiondrums | [2010/02/24 11:44:49, 3] libads/kerberos_verify.c:267(ads_keytab_verify_ticket) |
| 11:16.38 | tomiondrums | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:16.38 | tomiondrums | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:16.53 | tomiondrums | ads_keytab_verify_ticket: krb5_rd_req_return_keyblock_from_keytab(cifs/samba-dc1.swt.wiai.uni-bamberg.de@SWT.WIAI.UNI-BAMBERG.DE) failed: Wrong principal in request |
| 11:16.53 | tomiondrums | [2010/02/24 11:44:49, 3] libads/kerberos_verify.c:267(ads_keytab_verify_ticket) |
| 11:16.53 | tomiondrums | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:16.53 | tomiondrums | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:17.01 | jelly | ... |
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| 11:17.12 | themill | tomiondrums: stop pasting.... |
| 11:17.14 | yo_rmn1 | BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stcuk for 61s! [modprobe 89] |
| 11:17.20 | themill | dpkg: tell tomiondrums about paste |
| 11:17.32 | yo_rmn1 | stuck* |
| 11:17.57 | yo_rmn1 | so I cant boot my testing on Vbox. just installed |
| 11:18.15 | chessboxing | have you amd processor? |
| 11:18.23 | yo_rmn1 | Y |
| 11:18.30 | yo_rmn1 | sempron |
| 11:18.38 | chessboxing | you should enable virtual ... in your bios |
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| 11:18.55 | yo_rmn1 | ? on vbox? |
| 11:19.00 | chessboxing | BIOS |
| 11:19.14 | tomiondrums | ads_keytab_verify_ticket: krb5_rd_req_return_keyblock_from_keytab(cifs/samba-dc1.swt.wiai.uni-bamberg.de@SWT.WIAI.UNI-BAMBERG.DE) failed: Wrong principal in request |
| 11:19.19 | jelly | yo_rmn1: no, on the host |
| 11:19.27 | yo_rmn1 | U mean the bios of the host! |
| 11:19.35 | tomiondrums | ads_keytab_verify_ticket: krb5_rd_req failed for all 16 matched keytab principals |
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| 11:19.53 | yo_rmn1 | look, I DID install on host once, never happened this |
| 11:20.03 | themill | tomiondrums: seriously.... stop pasting here. Stick it in a pastebin and then ask a question about it. Tell us what you've tried and what the problem is. /msg dpkg ask |
| 11:20.04 | jelly | yo_rmn1: we know. |
| 11:20.05 | chessboxing | No, the bios of your pc. virtualbox enable's a feature but it should be enabled in your bios. |
| 11:20.09 | yo_rmn1 | Icant setup yet because of warranty still going |
| 11:21.06 | yo_rmn1 | so i die here! well... I guess i should install o the host (again) lol |
| 11:21.20 | yo_rmn1 | thx |
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| 11:22.22 | tomiondrums | the problem is i can't really tell you what problem i have without showing you the error message |
| 11:22.33 | tomiondrums | and i thought 2 lines were ok |
| 11:22.33 | yo_rmn1 | WAIT! lenny doesńt do tht, I can use lenny on vbox then right? but I had issues on xorg, after lenny>>sqweeze |
| 11:23.00 | yo_rmn1 | is this because of th same issue? |
| 11:23.04 | themill | tomiondrums: so stick it in a pastebin and give us the URL for the pastebin |
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| 11:23.19 | pierre_le | yo_rmn1, i think sempron doesnt support amd-v at all |
| 11:23.47 | yo_rmn1 | I used it fr every Linux ditros I know |
| 11:23.54 | yo_rmn1 | neve had a problem like this |
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| 11:24.36 | yo_rmn1 | th thing is I'm about to learn Debian cuse I chose this as mine |
| 11:24.55 | chessboxing | If it doesn't disable this in vbox. settings > system |
| 11:25.18 | yo_rmn1 | disble what? sorry |
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| 11:25.31 | pierre_le | uncheck amv acceleration in vbox machine settings |
| 11:25.34 | chessboxing | amd-v, which pierre_le talked about |
| 11:25.37 | themill | tomiondrums: you're now asking people to scroll up and down and read through screenfuls of backlog to find the relevant bits. You've also not told us anything about what you've tried or provided us with anything other than an error message. (And stop using /notice, just keep it in the channel) |
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| 11:26.28 | yo_rmn1 | What if it can't be disabled? it's locked! |
| 11:27.06 | yo_rmn1 | and it is enabled too |
| 11:27.08 | pierre_le | ok it's self-disabled. disable 3 acelleration too |
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| 11:27.52 | yo_rmn1 | ok I'll try now... |
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| 11:29.09 | yo_rmn1 | nah, stiil th same |
| 11:29.11 | tomiondrums | i added the some attributes (i just can't show you here because it's more than one line) to my smb.conf to make smbd use the kerberos realm for authentication |
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| 11:29.53 | tomiondrums | then i tried to connect locally the the smbd using smbclient //samba-dc1/profiles -W MYDOMAIN.BLA -k |
| 11:29.57 | pierre_le | iceweasel is a little cpu ungry. with only 20 tabs and no flash, it consume between 2 and 10% cpu |
| 11:30.29 | tomiondrums | and then it says cli_session_setup_blob: receive failed (NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE) |
| 11:30.38 | yo_rmn1 | it says on details tht VT-x/amd-v is enabled |
| 11:30.59 | tomiondrums | therefore i looked into the samba logfile where i found some more specific messages |
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| 11:31.40 | themill | tomiondrums: you can show us stuff that's more than one line... use a pastebin. Go to http://pastebin.ca/, paste it there, hit "submit" and give us the URL. Seriously... |
| 11:31.41 | tomiondrums | i already pasted those log-messages here |
| 11:31.49 | yo_rmn1 | well thx guys, I'll go back to lenny :( and when I feel ready Iĺl install testing on host |
| 11:32.01 | pierre_le | yo_rmn1, change to 1 cpu only |
| 11:32.20 | pierre_le | and try to change ioapic/apci checkboxes. |
| 11:32.32 | yo_rmn1 | sempron is only one, can set to more even if I want |
| 11:32.45 | pierre_le | that the problem. keep 1 |
| 11:32.59 | yo_rmn1 | can't* |
| 11:33.04 | yo_rmn1 | i is on one |
| 11:33.21 | yo_rmn1 | its set in only one |
| 11:33.25 | pierre_le | ok |
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| 11:33.32 | yo_rmn1 | where ioapic? |
| 11:33.44 | yo_rmn1 | can I dd these lines to boot? |
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| 11:33.53 | mezgani | please i have a question, about 3g modem |
| 11:33.54 | pierre_le | not far, search the tabs |
| 11:34.12 | pierre_le | one of the first, maybe the ram one |
| 11:34.19 | mezgani | when you plug the usb 3g modem it is identified as usb storage |
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| 11:34.50 | yo_rmn1 | both chckboxes enabled, unchacking and trying again |
| 11:34.57 | mezgani | in windows it install it self using autorun, and flip flop to modem |
| 11:35.07 | mezgani | how they do that ? |
| 11:35.33 | mezgani | i'm sure that it very easy to do that with udev rules |
| 11:35.56 | mezgani | but that i did not understand is the translation from storage to modem ? |
| 11:36.43 | tomiondrums | i posted a bit more of my log.smbd to http://pastebin.com/7DGEJBhd |
| 11:36.44 | aburch | mezgani: The package usb-modeswitch might help you. |
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| 11:37.59 | yo_rmn1 | welll something changed: FATAL: error inserting fan (/lib/modules/2.6.32-trunk-686/kernel/drivers/acpi/fan.co): no such device |
| 11:38.17 | yo_rmn1 | and the same about thermal |
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| 11:38.49 | yo_rmn1 | and now same tht before: soft lockup.. cpu#0....etc |
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| 11:40.07 | yo_rmn1 | I could with lenny, I'll try tht, IT is only for training, for I had problem when installed Debian in my pc |
| 11:40.23 | yo_rmn1 | so thx guys |
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| 11:46.52 | tomiondrums | now that i've done everything as you wanted me to do it there' |
| 11:47.02 | tomiondrums | s nobody whos interested in my problem |
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| 11:47.08 | tomiondrums | :-/ |
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| 11:50.04 | themill | tomiondrums: I can't help you with that problem -- all I can do is help you help yourself by getting you to ask your question in a way that at least gives others a chance of helping you. You might find #samba knows more. You'll also need to pastebin some bits of your smb.conf and krb5.conf too otherwise people are just guessing. |
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| 11:52.09 | tomiondrums | so here's my current smb.conf (partially) http://pastebin.com/1SkTUshU |
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| 11:52.32 | the-dude | tomiondrums: can you pastebin your krb5.conf ? |
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| 11:53.42 | tomiondrums | and here's my krb5.conf http://pastebin.com/PATvcGJS |
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| 11:55.18 | rooisto47 | hi everybody |
| 11:56.08 | the-dude | tomiondrums: why is [domain_realm] not used? |
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| 11:56.52 | tomiondrums | i already tried it with the domain_realm entries enabled but it didn't make any difference |
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| 11:58.38 | the-dude | tomiondrums: try using swt.wiai.uniba= SWT.WIAI.UNI-BAMBERG.DE .swt.wiai.uniba= SWT.WIAI.UNI-BAMBERG.DE |
| 12:00.57 | mischief | is udev installed as part of base? |
| 12:01.18 | DipSwitch | mischief: yeah |
| 12:01.56 | boon | dpkg |
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| 12:02.12 | boon | dpkg, hi |
| 12:02.12 | dpkg | niihau, boon |
| 12:02.17 | tomiondrums | adding the domain_realm you suggested also didn't make any difference - the problem remains |
| 12:02.25 | boon | dpkg, cute bot |
| 12:02.26 | dpkg | boon: i haven't a clue |
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| 12:02.42 | boon | dpkg, haha |
| 12:02.42 | dpkg | laughs!! that's funny boon! |
| 12:02.50 | boon | lol |
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| 12:03.50 | boon | dpkg, apt-get |
| 12:03.50 | dpkg | apt-get is a program (part of the apt package) used as a simple command line tool to libapt. apt-get is the most used front-end for <apt>. See also <aptitude>, <reference>, <synaptic>, <apt-cache>, <gdebi>. http://wiki.debian.org/apt-get |
| 12:04.12 | boon | dpkg, kplice |
| 12:04.12 | dpkg | boon: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
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| 12:04.45 | boon | dpkg, ksplice |
| 12:04.46 | dpkg | boon: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 12:05.08 | liable | boon: please play with the bot in /msg |
| 12:05.17 | liable | see, you killed it! |
| 12:05.19 | boon | he is angry |
| 12:05.20 | boon | :D |
| 12:05.24 | boon | Read the Fucking Manual |
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| 12:05.27 | boon | haha |
| 12:05.32 | rvsjoen | what about ksplice ? |
| 12:05.42 | rooisto47 | hi everybody |
| 12:06.01 | boon | Ksplice Uptrack is a subscription service that lets you apply 100% of the important kernel security updates released by your Linux vendor without rebooting. |
| 12:06.04 | liable | hiiii Dr Nick |
| 12:06.48 | rvsjoen | sure, though I doubt that its 100%, but it should be able to apply patches which do not modify the core structures |
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| 12:06.56 | man_in_ltop | waves |
| 12:06.58 | rooisto47 | any suggestion for a very good beginners guide to apache (ebook, docs, tuts ...) |
| 12:07.05 | rooisto47 | ? |
| 12:07.05 | man_in_ltop | having some trouble with a bluetooth mouse |
| 12:07.22 | man_in_ltop | it's connected and paired, and works on tty consoles, but not in X |
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| 12:08.23 | boon | dpkg, apache |
| 12:08.23 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, apache is a versatile, high-performance HTTP server; ask me about <apache2><install apache2><apache 1.3><apache manual>. http://wiki.debian.org/Apache http://httpd.apache.org/ #apache on irc.freenode.net. |
| 12:08.54 | rvsjoen | rooisto47: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.1/howto/ |
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| 12:09.21 | rvsjoen | rooisto47: it all depends on what you want to do, realyl |
| 12:09.52 | man_in_ltop | huh. it's not creating an evdev device, but it is in /dev/input/mice |
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| 12:10.35 | rvsjoen | man_in_ltop: i'm not an X person, but is /dev/input/mice registered as an input device in xorg.conf ? |
| 12:10.46 | man_in_ltop | rvsjoen, apparently not |
| 12:11.02 | man_in_ltop | my xorg.conf seems to be hooked up to the specific mouse devices by evdev |
| 12:11.07 | man_in_ltop | i had some reason for doing that ... |
| 12:11.34 | rooisto47 | rvsjoen, I wanna make a locale apache server for our network, which will serves to a locale "website" and locale debian repo |
| 12:11.41 | rvsjoen | evdev is just driver, no ? |
| 12:11.59 | man_in_ltop | evdev provides /dev/input/event* devices |
| 12:12.33 | rvsjoen | through udev ? |
| 12:12.43 | man_in_ltop | let's say yes |
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| 12:15.21 | rvsjoen | rooisto47: i'd just install it, browse through /etc/apache2 and go from there |
| 12:15.45 | rvsjoen | rooisto47: using the apache2 documentation for reference, it is very well documented |
| 12:15.52 | tomiondrums | the-dude: any other idea? |
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| 12:16.13 | rooisto47 | rvsjoen, ok thank you. |
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| 12:16.23 | melkart | i have a problem with apt/aptitude . when i do "update", i am being told that i have exceeded the maximum number of descriptions apt can deal with. "Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status". i can't open aptitude anymore. how can i fix this? |
| 12:16.47 | man_in_ltop | rvsjoen, looks like it could be an issue with udev, yes. /sys/class/input/event8 isn't being reflected in /dev/input |
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| 12:22.58 | man_in_ltop | upgraded udev, ran udevadm trigger, now it's there |
| 12:23.02 | man_in_ltop | need to restart X |
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| 12:23.18 | zu22 | how do i build the fglrx driver for debian squeeze? all the docs i found online refer to packages such as "fglrx-driver" and "fglrx-control" which are now deprecated in squeeze! can't find any info on this |
| 12:24.09 | jelly | zu22: it's not deprecated, but temporarily not available |
| 12:24.17 | jelly | !tell zu22 -about fglrx |
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| 12:29.14 | ambuli | hi |
| 12:30.15 | ambuli | not sure, if the question itself makes sense ?. Kindly help me. I have a debian repository, For a given package 'X', are there any way to get the list of packages from the repository which are build-depends on 'X' ? |
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| 12:31.43 | zu22 | jelly: ah i see, thanks |
| 12:34.52 | visof | is there a file that tell preferable programs ? |
| 12:35.06 | visof | if i have two web browser set one the default |
| 12:35.09 | visof | these things |
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| 12:35.47 | cahoot | visof: could look at man update-alternatives |
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| 12:36.19 | cahoot | visof: but I think your choice of DE matters too |
| 12:36.48 | smv | I need to add 2 modules to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules but I'm not sure which one is the right form to write them: dm-mod or dm_mod? dm-crypt or dm_crypt? |
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| 12:37.30 | tomiondrums | anybody? |
| 12:37.58 | jelly | !any idea |
| 12:37.59 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a bag full of herring, a little thermal paste, and a dozen rabid oxen. And keep the Cabal off my back for the next few hours! |
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| 12:39.54 | smv | !anybody |
| 12:39.54 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 13:06.35 | WE_Linker | excuse me ,but who has used the "madedit" |
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| 13:09.42 | xdr | anyone who had a diskcrash on a disk in a volumegroup with multipath and managed to restore the data on the other disks? |
| 13:09.43 | beaver | www.search2.net |
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| 13:12.55 | the-dude | tomiondrums: are you able to get a ticket ? |
| 13:13.50 | tomiondrums | using kinit Administrator (who is a samba user and also a kerberos principal) that works fine |
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| 13:17.17 | the-dude | tomiondrums: what about /sbin/mount.cifs //samba-dc1/profiles /mnt -o sec=krb5 |
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| 13:20.23 | ambuli | hi all, i have a question. in build-depends: pkgname (>1.2) . what is this 1.2 version does it identifiy the source package version or binary package version ? |
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| 13:22.01 | wuss-up | how do i change my real name ? ( not user name ) |
| 13:22.32 | cahoot | differs probably from between countries |
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| 13:23.10 | thrashold | wuss-up: chfn |
| 13:23.27 | wuss-up | thrashold, thanks :) |
| 13:24.05 | wuss-up | what is room number ? |
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| 13:24.55 | wuss-up | chfn ---> Changing the user information for leejongwook ---> Enter the new value, or press ENTER for the default ---> Full Name: Lee Jong Wook ---> Room Number []: |
| 13:25.34 | wuss-up | oh @_@ room number, i see |
| 13:25.38 | wuss-up | it's just a room number :P |
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| 13:25.39 | xdr | anyone know if it's possible to run 3 xservers with different monitors on a nvidia gt200 card + an ati card |
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| 13:26.13 | wuss-up | couldn't change my real name with chfn :P |
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| 13:27.26 | wuss-up | oh there's option -f :P |
| 13:27.34 | wuss-up | :P |
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| 13:28.43 | wuss-up | thrashold, thanks again see ya :) |
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| 13:36.02 | leejongwook | i can't change user's real name with 'chfn' |
| 13:36.16 | leejongwook | i only can change "root" real name |
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| 13:37.35 | leejongwook | @_@ |
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| 13:39.47 | jpin | Hi, how can I get a symbolic link reference? (the original place of where a file is) |
| 13:40.41 | leejongwook | ls -l |
| 13:40.47 | leejongwook | :) |
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| 13:41.41 | jpin | well .. :/ ... ok, thanks leejongwook :) |
| 13:41.47 | leejongwook | thanks :) |
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| 13:43.00 | boon | dpkg, openvz |
| 13:43.00 | dpkg | OpenVZ provides OS-level virtualization, creating isolated and secure virtual private servers on a single physical server. Installation instructions at http://wiki.openvz.org/Installation_on_Debian . #openvz on irc.freenode.net. See also <virtualization>. |
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| 13:43.26 | voxio | I've built some i368 deb files and setup an apt repo for them. I would like them to be usable on 64bit systems but the source won't be built for 64bit |
| 13:43.43 | voxio | will apt install i368 debs on a 64bit system? |
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| 14:01.58 | OpenTokix | voxio: if you tell it to, or there is no 64bit counterpart |
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| 14:02.18 | Rneksp | hello |
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| 14:03.16 | boon | slap boogeyman |
| 14:03.28 | boon | wrong |
| 14:03.34 | boon | dpkg, slap boon |
| 14:03.34 | dpkg | strikes a resounding *THWAP* across boon's face |
| 14:03.51 | boon | dpkg, slap dpkg |
| 14:03.52 | dpkg | strikes a resounding *THWAP* across dpkg's face |
| 14:03.55 | Rneksp | http://tinyurl.com/yko2qsg |
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| 14:04.19 | CGI300 | hi ! |
| 14:04.19 | voxio | OpenTokix: |
| 14:04.20 | voxio | thanks |
| 14:04.34 | voxio | I'm building some subversion 1.6.9 binaries for lenny |
| 14:04.59 | voxio | and after discussion with one of the main SVN developers, he sees no advantage of me building the debs on a 64bit system |
| 14:05.41 | voxio | OpenTokix: does it check for version? |
| 14:06.02 | voxio | so by default the lenny repos have 1.5.x or something like that |
| 14:06.09 | voxio | if I have 1.6.9 i368 in my repo |
| 14:06.21 | voxio | will apt install the older 64bit version over mine? |
| 14:06.42 | Rneksp | http://tinyurl.com/yko2qsg |
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| 14:08.53 | EagleWatch | rneksp - meriti o bere pt asta |
| 14:08.57 | EagleWatch | sory |
| 14:09.11 | EagleWatch | wrong channel :D |
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| 14:09.54 | edwin_quijada | how can I go to a specific line into a file |
| 14:10.11 | edwin_quijada | ex: line 87342 |
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| 14:10.26 | petemc | 87342G |
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| 14:10.54 | petemc | edwin_quijada: using what? |
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| 14:11.10 | edwin_quijada | shell |
| 14:11.34 | abrotman | you just want to cat out one line in a file? or you're using an editor ? |
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| 14:11.55 | edwin_quijada | this file is so big |
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| 14:12.48 | petemc | edwin_quijada: do you just want to print the line? |
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| 14:14.18 | themill | edwin_quijada: sed -n '87342{p;q}' foo.txt |
| 14:14.41 | petemc | whats the q for? |
| 14:15.09 | boon | edwin_quijada : sudo nano +98 myfile.txt |
| 14:15.14 | boon | 98 = line number |
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| 14:16.09 | petemc | oh, immediately quit |
| 14:16.12 | abrotman | boon: i think he's trying to do it without an editor |
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| 14:16.45 | themill | petemc: yes, quit immediately so you don't process the rest of the file for no reason |
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| 14:16.59 | petemc | gotcha |
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| 14:45.07 | visof | hi |
| 14:45.22 | visof | how can extract zip files from command line ? |
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| 14:45.37 | cahoot | unzip |
| 14:46.51 | visof | i got something like inflating: file |
| 14:46.57 | visof | what that mean ? |
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| 14:47.22 | wuss-up | how do i change my real name info ? (finger info) |
| 14:47.45 | wuss-up | chfn don't work and "About me" don't |
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| 14:49.47 | wuss-up | i think 'About me' worked :P |
| 14:49.51 | wuss-up | sorry :P |
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| 14:52.55 | aleray | hi, I just got a server with debian 5 OS. I'm a total newbie concerning debian, and i'd like to install more recent softawres tahn the one provided by default. For instance if i run apt-get install python-django I get version 1.0 but i'd like to get version 1.1. How can O do this ? |
| 14:54.02 | abrotman | !grounding |
| 14:54.02 | dpkg | Before asking in here or on the debian-user mailing list, you should read the Installation Guide, or if you already have Debian installed, the Debian Reference. Ask me about <ig>, <reference>, <refcard>, <docs>, <manuals>, <fundamentals>, <newbiedoc>, <faq>, <unix lessons>, <general cli tutorial>. (e.g. in your IRC client, type /msg dpkg reference) |
| 14:54.02 | wuss-up | aleray, nice to meet you :) im' newbie too :P |
| 14:54.02 | themill | ,versions python-django |
| 14:54.02 | judd | python-django -- etch: 0.95.1-1etch2; etch-security: 0.95.1-1etch2; etch-backports: 1.0.2-1~bpo40+1; lenny: 1.0.2-1+lenny2; lenny-security: 1.0.2-1+lenny2; lenny-backports: 1.1.1-1~bpo50+1; sid: 1.1.1-3; squeeze: 1.1.1-3; experimental: 1.2~beta1-1 |
| 14:54.02 | abrotman | !tell aleray about bpo |
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| 14:54.39 | wuss-up | :) |
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| 14:55.23 | aleray | ok thanks |
| 14:56.15 | wuss-up | dpkg, fundamentals |
| 14:56.15 | dpkg | You'll get more out of Debian and *nix if you learn some of the fundamentals. Read the "Unix and Internet Fundamentals" HOWTO at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/index.html. Then, read the Debian Reference at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ See also <rute>. |
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| 14:58.24 | leejongwook | nice manual :) |
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| 15:00.07 | leejongwook | dpkg, help |
| 15:00.28 | themill | leejongwook: please "/msg dpkg help" |
| 15:00.32 | Rug | What is the smallest web-browser that supports java I can install for a remote headless box? |
| 15:00.40 | leejongwook | themill, thanks |
| 15:00.50 | Rug | I will be tunneling X via ssh |
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| 15:01.20 | gothenburg | Rug: firefox or something |
| 15:01.38 | ace | hello guys, is there some people that know really well how projects are accepted in the debian main repository? |
| 15:01.40 | Rug | firefox? isn't there something less bloated? |
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| 15:02.05 | Rug | I don't care how ugly it is, I just need it for 1 thing |
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| 15:02.16 | f00li5h[HireMe] | links or elinks |
| 15:02.28 | leejongwook | themill, can i have this help within terminal ? |
| 15:02.31 | gothenburg | http://getswiftfox.com/ |
| 15:02.31 | Rug | links & elinks don't support java |
| 15:02.34 | gothenburg | http://code.google.com/intl/sv-SE/chromium/ |
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| 15:03.03 | Rug | gothenburg: swiftfox I had forgettne about |
| 15:03.14 | f00li5h[HireMe] | Rug: what are you actually trying to get done? |
| 15:03.20 | leejongwook | i mean off-line Debian help |
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| 15:03.36 | dstufft | Does debian store the default config files anywhere? |
| 15:03.38 | boon | dpkg, yawn |
| 15:03.38 | dpkg | *YAWN* I get *YAWN* tired just thinking of large boxes of unknown substances being poured into nooks and crannies and eaten by little monsters that like to kill fluffy bunnies and oh god I'm tired.. |
| 15:03.43 | dstufft | if i've edited the ones in /etc/ |
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| 15:04.44 | Rug | I have just installed VMWare on a fresh Debian Squeeze. I keep getting 503 errors when trying to connect. I want to try a tunneled X-session to see if it still doesn't work. |
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| 15:05.46 | pngwn | !tell rug -about VMWare |
| 15:06.23 | Rug | pngwn: Known problem? |
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| 15:06.33 | pngwn | rug, it's not free |
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| 15:06.41 | Dark-Star | Hi! I want to install debian on a headless system. Can I bootstrap it from another linux system running on the target machine (i.e. boot existing linux from sda, install debian on sdb somehow, then reboot with sda removed and continue installation)? |
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| 15:07.30 | Rug | pngwn: I didn't come in here asking for help with VMware. I asked for a tiny web-browser |
| 15:07.53 | fireba11 | Dark-Star: yes, there are guides to do that on remote systems without locking yourself out somewhere in the process :-) |
| 15:08.05 | manicman | my apache is only listening on ipv6 adresses. i have advised him to listen on *:443. any hints how to force him to listen on ipv4 addresses also? |
| 15:08.46 | pngwn | 10:04 < Rug> I have just installed VMWare on a fresh Debian Squeeze. :) |
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| 15:09.23 | Rug | pngwn: Only after somebody else ASKED why I needed a tiny browser |
| 15:09.41 | Rug | pngwn: 10:03 < f00li5h[HireMe]> Rug: what are you actually trying to get done? |
| 15:09.51 | pngwn | rug, |
| 15:10.02 | pngwn | vmware is not supported in #debian |
| 15:10.21 | Rug | Of course it isn't |
| 15:10.29 | pngwn | I'm done |
| 15:10.37 | Dark-Star | fireba11: any pointers? the official debian manual doesn't seem to mention it (or did I miss something?) |
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| 15:11.33 | fireba11 | Dark-Star: http://www.goudkov.com/public/articles/changing_distro.jsp it's a bit old but should still work like that |
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| 15:20.57 | Dark-Star | fireba11: thanks, but I think that's not exactly what I need to do. My old distro is not debian, I need to install from scratch |
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| 15:21.49 | Dark-Star | can I tell the installer to preconfigure network (via dhcp or via bootparams to a fixed ip) so that I can login via ssh right after booting? |
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| 15:22.38 | lsd | Dark-Star, PXE boot combined with an installer image containing sshd |
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| 15:23.10 | Igloo | Hi all |
| 15:23.13 | Igloo | Is there any way of working around #466228 (aptitude upgrades packages that are on hold) short of installing unstable's aptitude? |
| 15:23.14 | Dark-Star | PXE is not neccessary as I can simply add a kernel+initrd+kernel options to the existing lilo.conf. but where can I get an installer image with sshd? |
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| 15:23.59 | wols | !tell Dark-Star about ssh install |
| 15:24.44 | Dark-Star | ah that looks promising |
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| 15:25.49 | wols | Igloo: you cannot install unstable's aptitude. you can backport it tho or patch it yourself |
| 15:25.52 | jimcooncat | lsd, that's what I have set up, then I use "watch ssh" to keep trying until I get a login |
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| 15:27.16 | eshat | Hi all.... I want to do some screencast in debian with recordmydesktop, but the audio is always not synced to video. Should I use the debian-multimedia repository ? |
| 15:27.40 | Igloo | hmm, that's a pain :-( |
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| 15:30.13 | ace | is there some package in the main repo that you have to pay to access some server services? |
| 15:30.32 | petemc | no |
| 15:30.51 | eshat | Would anybody recommend debian-multimedia for sid, since debian does not support any good video codec. |
| 15:31.00 | petemc | unless you mean something like apache, then charging people for web hosting |
| 15:31.07 | petemc | in which case, the answer would be yes |
| 15:31.34 | petemc | eshat: if you want packages with support for particular codecs, sure |
| 15:31.43 | dutchfish | eshat: i can run video fine without them |
| 15:31.48 | eshat | petemc: but I heared it could mess up my libarys |
| 15:32.01 | eshat | dutchfish: I don't want to run... I want to record |
| 15:32.02 | wols | what libraries? |
| 15:32.03 | petemc | so can using sid.. |
| 15:32.17 | wols | if you want to record, no way around dmm to get certain codecs |
| 15:32.40 | eshat | wols: like ffmpeg |
| 15:32.46 | jhutchins_lt | Dark-Star: I'm drawing a blank on the name, but there is a package available in native format for many distros that will allow you to build a Debian install that is essentially a chroot. |
| 15:32.49 | eshat | wols: dmm ? |
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| 15:33.02 | eshat | wols: ahhh debian multimedia |
| 15:33.09 | eshat | wols: ok thanks |
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| 15:33.36 | wols | jhutchins_lt: debootrstrap? cdebootstrap? |
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| 15:34.01 | jhutchins_lt | Dark-Star: debootstrap |
| 15:34.13 | jhutchins_lt | wols: What's cdebootstrap? |
| 15:34.28 | wols | deboostrap written in C instead of a script |
| 15:34.57 | jhutchins_lt | Ah. |
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| 15:35.52 | jhutchins_lt | This system is the result of debootstrap. |
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| 15:37.01 | Anthro | I'm using debian in VMware, and I have to keep cloning it because I need several nearly identical servers on the virtual network. Every time I clone it, however, the interfaces for its two virtual NICs increment, and not necessarily predictably. For example, eth5 becomes eth8 and eth6 becomes eth7. Is there some way to flush that to get back to eth0 and eth1? |
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| 15:38.53 | otwieracz | Hey. |
| 15:39.20 | otwieracz | How to tell dpkg that i-installed-this-package-from-sources-and-you-dont-need-to-resolve-this-dependency? |
| 15:39.49 | otwieracz | (something like /etc/portage/packages.provided in Gentoo) |
| 15:39.54 | Dark-Star | hm, debootstrap indeed sounds easier than that network-console stuff... |
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| 15:40.30 | themill | otwieracz: if you are utterly convinced that it is going to work (and that's non-trivial), then "/msg dpkg equivs". The better approach is to modify/adapt the debian package to your needs so you don't need to go outside the packaging system |
| 15:41.52 | otwieracz | I have problems with GPG encryption in tkabber. |
| 15:42.05 | otwieracz | When I'm trying to build tclgpgme, I have error: |
| 15:42.23 | HyperZid | What does hda=noprobe means.. in grub.conf? |
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| 15:43.06 | kjs | if I want to send mail via a differnt machine, how can i configure Debian to use an alterntive mail server? |
| 15:43.25 | sfb | If I created a package for an Free and Open Source game but the game was a client that connected to a server (whose code is also Free) that's a subscription service would my package be rejected from main? |
| 15:44.43 | otwieracz | In file included from tclgpgme.c:21: |
| 15:44.43 | otwieracz | /usr/include/gpgme.h:80:2: error: #error GPGME was compiled with _FILE_OFFSET_BITS = 64, please see the section "Largefile support (LFS)" in the GPGME manual. |
| 15:44.57 | otwieracz | (when using libgpgme11-dev from squezze repo) |
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| 15:45.17 | Anthro | Never mind, I figured ito ut. |
| 15:45.19 | Anthro | out |
| 15:45.38 | otwieracz | themill: ↑ |
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| 15:54.06 | wols | otwieracz: did you check the manual? |
| 15:54.44 | wols | kjs: use ssmtp |
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| 15:59.38 | otwieracz | wols: http://pyme.sourceforge.net/doc/gpgme/Largefile-Support-_0028LFS_0029.html#Largefile-Support-_0028LFS_0029 |
| 15:59.52 | otwieracz | I must compile tclgpgme with LFS support? |
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| 16:06.10 | cbx | I've sucessfully loaded a netinstall image using PXE booting. Now I want to use the images here instead: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/cdrom/ [so that I can use the ISO's I have] |
| 16:06.20 | cbx | should I just extract the iso's alongside? |
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| 16:21.06 | skamikaze | hi all |
| 16:21.19 | skamikaze | i just wanted to thank every developer for providing that os |
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| 16:21.50 | linuxjones317 | hello, i just installed debian on a power book g4 and am new with linux on macs, is there an "easy" way to map the second mouse button to a button on the keyboard, perhaps the apple button |
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| 16:24.13 | wols | !ppc |
| 16:24.14 | dpkg | [powerpc] PowerPC is a <RISC> architecture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC). See "Debian for PowerPC" at http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc . Debian CDs are not (and cannot be made) bootable on OldWorld PowerMacs. Information on proper partitioning is at http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.txt . See also <yaboot>, <quik>, <bootx>. #debianppc on irc.oftc.net and irc.freenode.net. |
| 16:24.31 | wols | the debianppc people should be able to help you better |
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| 16:29.47 | Dark-Star | where do I get the file devices.tar.gz that I seem to need for debootstrap? it's not in the source package |
| 16:30.38 | brbrbr | another src's package i guess |
| 16:30.49 | brbrbr | "modules" or something alike |
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| 16:31.12 | Dark-Star | well it's in the binary debootstrap .deb but I don't know how to unpack it on a non-debian distro ;-) |
| 16:32.02 | brbrbr | many linux archivers support opening cans with deb packages |
| 16:32.14 | brbrbr | such as ark and openarchiver and etc |
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| 16:32.37 | Hydroxide | not only that, deb files are unpackable with the standard unix tools ar and tar |
| 16:32.48 | Hydroxide | (even if the LSB has stupidly decided to deprecate ar) |
| 16:33.09 | Hydroxide | ar x file.deb |
| 16:33.14 | brbrbr | LSB is not stupid, just backward-guided by Microsoft |
| 16:33.51 | Hydroxide | and that gives you a tiny text file identifying the format, one tar.gz with the files in the .deb and one tar.gz with the package scripts and metadata |
| 16:34.05 | Hydroxide | brbrbr: I didn't say the LSB was stupid. I said their deprecation of ar was stupid. :) |
| 16:34.14 | Hydroxide | brbrbr: overall I'm glad the LSB exists |
| 16:34.25 | Dark-Star | Hydroxide: thanks, I just found that out myself... od(1) to the rescue ;-) |
| 16:34.30 | Hydroxide | hehe |
| 16:34.41 | brbrbr | but how else LSB can do ? no replacements[in their eyes for ar ... kick this out !!] |
| 16:35.08 | brbrbr | im glad LSB exist too, but hope Debian keep own way. GNU/SPI ones |
| 16:35.13 | Hydroxide | most likely they're just thinking about the fact that the LSB package format is rpm which can't be dealt with using standard unix tools |
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| 16:35.35 | Hydroxide | brbrbr: I assume you Debian has no plans of abandoning .deb :) though we do support lsb if you install the relevant stuff |
| 16:35.38 | brbrbr | not "god only know which interests-supported"-organization-driven |
| 16:35.40 | Hydroxide | s/assume/assure/ |
| 16:35.46 | Hydroxide | gah, weird typo |
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| 16:35.53 | brbrbr | LSB mean other stuff too |
| 16:36.02 | Hydroxide | like least significant bit? indeed :) |
| 16:36.17 | brbrbr | such as presence of [potentially]dangerous stuff in distro and standart HFS |
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| 16:36.43 | Hydroxide | anyway, we're bordering on off-topic for #debian, even though it is an interesting chat... |
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| 16:37.02 | brbrbr | i don't know what worse. hope community consider something constructive |
| 16:37.24 | brbrbr | talking about debian is offtopic on debian chat ? weird. imo |
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| 16:44.36 | oliva | hi there I'm trying to block a host dhcp requests on the mac address basis dropping all packages in the PREROUTING queue coming from that mac. iptables tell me "The "nat" table is not intended for filtering, the use of DROP is therefore inhibited." |
| 16:44.43 | oliva | how can I do this?^ |
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| 16:47.00 | dutchfish | oliva: have you tried iptables -A INPUT -m mac --mac-source [mac address with : seprator] -j DROP ? |
| 16:47.17 | oliva | doesn't works |
| 16:48.13 | abrotman | #netfilter ? |
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| 16:48.35 | oliva | askin there :) |
| 16:48.49 | oliva | thanks |
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| 16:50.19 | dutchfish | oliva: http://lists.netfilter.org/pipermail/netfilter/2000-November/005795.html |
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| 17:00.56 | iwkse | hi, i have an issue with NFS in my private lan. I mount a folder on which i have rw permissions. In such folders also exists some root files that i need to delete but it doesn't give me rights to do it. there's some specific settings within NFS to achieve it? |
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| 17:04.07 | dutchfish | iwkse: normally only root can do that if no_root_squash is set in the export file (default) |
| 17:04.12 | Dark-Star | iwkse: export it with the "no_root_squash" option on your server, otherwise the server maps client uid 0 to "nobody" |
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| 17:04.44 | bvk | what is the right irc channel for emdebian or cross-compilers related queries? |
| 17:04.52 | iwkse | thank you :) |
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| 17:07.53 | acathur | bvk: there seems to be a channel on irc.debian.org with the same name |
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| 17:08.29 | bvk | acathur: thanks; yes #emdebian on irc.debian.org :) |
| 17:08.51 | bvk | ok bye |
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| 17:11.08 | mezgani | hello |
| 17:11.26 | mezgani | i need to do a send-notify in a udev rules |
| 17:11.29 | mezgani | but that not work |
| 17:11.35 | mezgani | i'm on kde |
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| 17:15.08 | hugopl | MoDaX, Hi, are you the maintainer of cmake for debian? |
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| 17:15.43 | MoDaX | hugopl: I am |
| 17:16.20 | rbq | plz help me … I despair of searching all the ruby stuff on my debian server for the source of my messed up $GEM_HOME |
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| 17:17.03 | rbq | I think my last "gem update" called "gem update --system" or "gem update rubygems-update", which somehow changed the configuration. :/ |
| 17:17.04 | abrotman | MoDaX: do you have a stakler? :) |
| 17:17.34 | abrotman | stalker |
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| 17:17.57 | xaashi | hi, does anyone know whether it is possible to replicate a serial console with usb .. |
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| 17:18.37 | xaashi | i.e. i have a machine with no serial and would like to enable something akin to a serial console to observe boot and have a fail safe |
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| 17:19.50 | wols | xaashi: http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO.html#KERNELCOMPILE-25-USB-MENUCONFIG |
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| 17:21.25 | xaashi | wols: hi .. i saw that but wasnt' quite certain as to whether it was a serial-> usb or usb->serial |
| 17:22.34 | xaashi | the problem i have is that my board has no serial |
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| 17:29.06 | FlyingFoX | how do i get the libboost*1.38.0 files? aptitude displays them with a 'c' when i call the search function. |
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| 17:30.21 | wols | xaashi: usb to serial adapter usually |
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| 17:30.52 | themill | !wayttd FlyingFoX |
| 17:30.52 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, FlyingFoX? |
| 17:30.56 | Titan8990 | judd, versions libboost-dev |
| 17:30.58 | judd | libboost-dev -- etch: 1.33.1-10; lenny: 1.34.1-14; sid: 1.40.0.1; squeeze: 1.40.0.1 |
| 17:31.38 | xaashi | wols: thanks |
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| 17:33.33 | FlyingFoX | themill: i want to run a self compiled program which needs those boost libraries |
| 17:34.12 | Titan8990 | FlyingFoX, are you sure there is not already a debian packaged version of the software you need? what program? |
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| 17:34.49 | themill | FlyingFoX: 1.38 isn't in debian anywhere. You need to compile it against the libraries that are actually present.... such is the nature of boost. |
| 17:35.15 | xaashi | FlyingFoX: have you tried libboost*-all-dev |
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| 17:36.26 | themill | xaashi: that's still only to recompile, that won't help run something that's already compiled |
| 17:36.43 | FlyingFoX | Titan8990: no there is no debian package for that program yet. |
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| 17:37.02 | Titan8990 | FlyingFoX, and that program is? |
| 17:37.09 | xaashi | themill: all |
| 17:37.15 | xaashi | *aah* |
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| 17:37.26 | FlyingFoX | Titan8990: http://code.google.com/p/ghostplusplus |
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| 17:51.51 | leoboiko | hi. anyone knows if there's a way to force groff not to eat ASCII escape characters (\033) from the input? |
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| 18:00.36 | phorce1 | I've been poking around in apt-cache search but haven't found what I'm loking for. Is there an app like aplay that will let you control the volume from the play command? (eg. xxxplay --volume 20 file.wav) I need to use a command line tool for a notification sound but I usually leave my MASTER volume all the way up and control volume of what I'm listening to using controls in the individual apps. |
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| 18:02.48 | dutchfish | phorce1: why not set your mixer? like amixer "master d" 80 ? |
| 18:02.49 | Blues-Man | hi all |
| 18:03.38 | dutchfish | phorce1: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Alsa-sound-6.html |
| 18:03.59 | LuserN800 | anyone know how to handle usb external harddrives that sometimes go into powersave mode? My debian does not like this and can't even remount it. I have to powercycle the disk. |
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| 18:04.10 | oggei | phorce1: you can use mplayer with -softvol and stuff |
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| 18:10.22 | oggei | phorce1: like mplayer -af volume=-NN |
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| 18:14.27 | RichiH | when starting dhcp, i get an error that there is "no subnet declaration for br0 (10.0.101.101)" yet, br0 has 10.0.101.101/24 and is up -- what could cause this? |
| 18:15.19 | penrod | greetings, which irc chatroom would be good for wireless deplyment ? I am doing a 12 story hotel and they want the clients to just see one ssid wherever they go. |
| 18:15.45 | zinx | RichiH: a dhcp daemon? |
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| 18:15.49 | Dark-Star | RichiH: maybe you forgot to configure the subnet for br0 in the dhcpd.conf file? |
| 18:15.52 | zinx | RichiH: which one? |
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| 18:16.18 | RichiH | argh, i typo'ed the IP |
| 18:16.44 | RichiH | figures that i look for ages and once i ask, i find it |
| 18:16.51 | RichiH | head, meet table |
| 18:17.26 | phorce1 | dutchfish: I was tring to avoid having to script it through multiple programs. Also, if I script it using alsmixer I'd have to be able to save the volume, change it, then set it back because I don't ALWAYS have it at 100%, just usually. |
| 18:17.45 | Dark-Star | RichiH: well, that IP address is bound to cause problems... far too many 0's and 1's in there for my taste ;-) |
| 18:18.44 | oggei | phorce1: if you're normally using software mixing for every other program then you have to use it also for notification stuff, so alsamixer scripting isn't useful, but maybe i'm misunderstanding |
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| 18:20.10 | dutchfish | phorce1: mmm, intresting problem |
| 18:20.55 | rayd0n | is anyone here from usa, having a few seconds for me? |
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| 18:23.39 | phorce1 | oggei, dutchfish will shoot for a better explanation in a moment -- customer on phone -- afk |
| 18:23.58 | oggei | oh np for me |
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| 18:25.56 | dutchfish | phorce1: pipe it through sox (tested and works) |
| 18:27.25 | oggei | for having a eg. 20% soft mixed volume output ? :o |
| 18:28.07 | dutchfish | phorce1: play has also a volume option, depends on your sound source wich is best to use |
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| 18:33.58 | dutchfish | oggei, he could query the mixer settings and use that to calculate the volume factor for his output either by play or sox |
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| 18:40.51 | phorce1 | oggei, dutchfish: thx -- 'play' does it. I just wasn't finding it during a search of packages. 'play -v -0.03 gong.wav' |
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| 18:42.17 | oggei | i'd rather use mplayer for his decoders but yeah |
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| 18:45.42 | phorce1 | oggei: mplayer is a bit of overkill for this simple task. Really just needed to play a .wav (or .ogg or .whatever) file at a volume lower than current system volume settings |
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| 18:47.08 | unomi | hi, any word on nspr v >= 4.7.4 for lenny ? |
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| 18:48.14 | dutchfish | unomi: http://packages.qa.debian.org/n/nspr.html |
| 18:49.20 | dutchfish | unomi: or use backports http://packages.debian.org/en/source/lenny-backports/nspr |
| 18:49.43 | unomi | not quite sure how to read that, it shows 4.7.4 in testing 8 months ago |
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| 18:50.01 | dutchfish | unomi: yes, and that likely wont change |
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| 18:50.15 | themill | ,versions libnspr4-0d |
| 18:50.17 | judd | libnspr4-0d -- etch: 1.8.0.15~pre080614i-0etch1; etch-security: 1.8.0.15~pre080614i-0etch1; lenny: 4.7.1-5; lenny-security: 4.7.1-5; lenny-backports: 4.8-1~bpo50+1; sid: 4.8.3-1; squeeze: 4.8.3-1 |
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| 18:51.30 | unomi | alright, I'll grab it from backports, thanks! :) |
| 18:51.38 | dutchfish | yw |
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| 18:57.23 | aghaster | Hi |
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| 18:57.38 | aghaster | I just noticed that my default version of python is 2.5 |
| 18:57.46 | haole | hello there... i'm installing debian in a really low end pc (96 mb RAM, k6-2 500 processor)... and to make things worse, it is supposed to be a desktop with a word processor tool (like windows 98 with word 97). I'm aware of softwares like abiword, icewm, rox-filer and such, and i'm running xorg with 15 bpp of color depth and 800x600 resolution... however, this computer is still very, very slow and it makes it almost impossible to use... what else |
| 18:57.46 | aghaster | how can I switch the version to 2.6 if I have it installed? |
| 18:59.07 | Titan8990 | haole, I would use something like DSL or puppy linux that is made to run on ancient hardware like that |
| 18:59.18 | Titan8990 | haole, or a little additional RAM would likely help a lot |
| 18:59.49 | jelly | aghaster: use /usr/bin/python2.6 as the interpreter? |
| 19:00.10 | aghaster | yeah, I just checked and /usr/bin/python points to 2.5 |
| 19:00.21 | Titan8990 | aghaster, I'm pretty sure that would break a lot of things to switch the default intepreter |
| 19:00.42 | haole | Titan8990, i was thinking about giving them a try, but i am willing to learn something from this experience... do you know what does dsl and puppy do to speed things up? i'm very interested in this |
| 19:00.44 | aghaster | I don't want to manually change the symlink to point to 2.6 as I'm worried it may mess things up when it'll be looking for python libraries |
| 19:00.49 | jelly | aghaster: changing /usr/bin/python link isn't supported |
| 19:01.01 | aghaster | ok |
| 19:01.21 | aghaster | I'm trying to use the current in development version of gaphor, and it appears to be using python 2.6 |
| 19:01.33 | aghaster | what would you suggest I try in this case? |
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| 19:02.38 | aghaster | oh, nevermind, got it by explicitly calling python2.6 |
| 19:02.59 | Titan8990 | judd, versions python |
| 19:03.01 | judd | python -- etch: 2.4.4-2; lenny: 2.5.2-3; sid: 2.5.4-9; squeeze: 2.5.4-9 |
| 19:03.28 | jhutchins_lt | judd versions python2.6 |
| 19:03.31 | judd | python2.6 -- squeeze: 2.6.4-5; sid: 2.6.4-6 |
| 19:03.36 | aghaster | I'm on sid |
| 19:03.45 | wols | haole: load less background stuff. cut it down |
| 19:03.57 | wols | puppy and dsl use a special, small footprint X version |
| 19:04.32 | Titan8990 | yeah, i was pondering what it could be... I assume X that doesn't require dbus/HAL, minimal kernel, etc |
| 19:04.34 | haole | wols: are they both based on debian? i think dsl is... don't know about puppy |
| 19:05.07 | Titan8990 | haole, puppy has its own package management system and I don't think is necessarily based on anything |
| 19:05.13 | haole | i've already cutted off all useless services for this desktop, and it's still slow |
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| 19:06.21 | jhutchins_lt | haole: It's gonna be slow. |
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| 19:07.13 | jhutchins_lt | haole: You could try building a minimalist kernel for it, but with the modular kernel it's already pretty stripped. |
| 19:07.27 | jhutchins_lt | haole: You could look at the kernels dsl and puppy use and see what they've removed. |
| 19:07.48 | jhutchins_lt | haole: Any advance in RAM is probably going to help a lot. |
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| 19:08.42 | TrueDD | Hi all |
| 19:09.04 | Titan8990 | RAM is dirt cheap too... likely just needs a stick of SDRAM |
| 19:09.22 | jhutchins_lt | Titan8990: Older ram, if you can find it, can be quite expensive. |
| 19:09.33 | jhutchins_lt | Titan8990: If you buy it new at least. |
| 19:09.44 | Titan8990 | jhutchins_lt, more expensive than modern RAM... but still dirt cheap |
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| 19:10.42 | haole | jhutchins, Titan8990: i'm setting up this computer for a person that has zero money... i could get a lot better pc for the price of 4 512mb RAM sticks of SDRAM, but hardware upgrade is really not possible |
| 19:10.52 | haole | i liked the idea to compare with the kernels from this distros |
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| 19:11.07 | haole | although i think dsl uses the 2.4 kernel... don't know if it is easy to use it with debian |
| 19:11.15 | Titan8990 | jhutchins, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820146076 128mb SDRAM for $15 |
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| 19:13.27 | Titan8990 | haole, does slow == unusable? |
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| 19:14.16 | encrypt | what provides command count? |
| 19:15.12 | haole | Titan8990: yes |
| 19:15.19 | jimcooncat | encrypt: what is command count? |
| 19:15.30 | haole | Titan8990: anything that uses gtk will take more than 30 seconds to appear |
| 19:16.04 | haole | if i'm playing solitaire and move a card, the mouse stops moving because the processor doesn't seem to be able to handle my mouse and the plotting of the card at the same time lol |
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| 19:16.35 | haole | it's not a serious issue, this old computer thing... i'm just trying to learn a little bit more about debian and the linux kernel using this case as an excuse :) |
| 19:16.36 | jimcooncat | haole: I had a 386SX like that |
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| 19:16.53 | Titan8990 | I wouldn't have thought the CPU would be the bottleneck there.... |
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| 19:17.06 | haole | Titan8990: the cpu does seem to be the greatest bottleneck |
| 19:17.27 | haole | that's why i think that this issue is possible to solve |
| 19:17.27 | jhutchins_lt | haole: You're not swapping? |
| 19:17.30 | haole | must be somethinhg i'm missing |
| 19:17.41 | haole | jhutchins: yes, i am... 230 mb of swap, i think |
| 19:17.52 | jhutchins_lt | haole: Yeah, but are you using it much? |
| 19:18.00 | haole | usually, with X open, 10% |
| 19:18.03 | jhutchins_lt | haole: Swap is the biggest performance killer. |
| 19:18.21 | Titan8990 | yes, your applications are probably running almost entirely via swap |
| 19:18.21 | haole | jhutchins_lt: is there a way to tune it? |
| 19:18.26 | jhutchins_lt | haole: That processor is actually adequate for a decent desktop. |
| 19:18.43 | jhutchins_lt | haole: Not really, you can cut back the swap, but then you run out of RAM. |
| 19:18.44 | haole | makes sense... swap must be my vilain, then |
| 19:19.09 | jhutchins_lt | haole: Just look at the drive light when it's staggering, if it's in constant use then you're in a swap situation. |
| 19:19.09 | haole | could be good for testing, though... if this is it, i'm gonna hunt one more stick of SDRAM somewhere |
| 19:19.16 | jelly | haole: swap is useful, lack of ram is the villain |
| 19:19.41 | jhutchins_lt | haole: Anything would help. 512 is actually enough to run a minimal system. |
| 19:19.55 | jhutchins_lt | 256 maybe. |
| 19:19.59 | jhutchins_lt | 128 is pushing it. |
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| 19:21.17 | jeffno | I remember running Debian on a 486 66MHz with 32 megs of ram |
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| 19:24.19 | haole | gonna try that turning swap off to see if the performance improves with one or two programs running (to save ram)... if it does, i'm gonna hunt down more RAM... thanks for all the help and information |
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| 19:25.14 | Titan8990 | haole, performance with not imporve, apps will crash or not run |
| 19:25.30 | Titan8990 | haole, oh, I see what your attempting to test now |
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| 19:26.14 | encrypt | How can I use the variable $1 from the shell script on: sed -i -e '/\[Comeca\]/a$IPTABLES -A INPUT -s $1 -j DROP' teste |
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| 19:26.33 | haole | Titan8990, i'm justing trying to test if my extreme slowdown issue is because of too much swapping... if it is, then i'm gonna get some more RAM |
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| 19:26.56 | Titan8990 | encrypt, #bash |
| 19:27.03 | jeffno | You could just run vmstat to see if swap is happening |
| 19:27.14 | Titan8990 | encrypt, and quote your variables |
| 19:27.28 | roll | is there any trick i'm missing? i'm trying to get vpn work with xp machine. wenn connecting to vpn from remote i dont get the local names. any ideas? thanks |
| 19:27.29 | encrypt | ok |
| 19:27.33 | nader | HI, I need a good irc client (TUI) |
| 19:28.06 | Titan8990 | roll, what do you mean by "local names"? is debian the vpn server? what kind of vpn software? |
| 19:28.19 | Titan8990 | nader, ERC or irssi |
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| 19:28.37 | roll | debian is only bind server, the internal names are set up there |
| 19:28.37 | mike-burns | nader: irssi or weechat. |
| 19:28.49 | roll | nader: irssi! |
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| 19:29.03 | Titan8990 | nader, irssi is the popular one, however you may prefer ERC if you are already an emacs user |
| 19:29.29 | roll | Titan8990: vpn software is netgear |
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| 19:30.04 | roll | the problem should not be in vpn, it is working. i can ping the ip addresses |
| 19:30.17 | nader | ok tnx |
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| 19:31.04 | roll | internally the bind part works correctly, so it's only when connecting trough vpn |
| 19:31.10 | Titan8990 | roll, netgear?? |
| 19:31.17 | roll | maybe it's a wrong place to ask |
| 19:31.22 | roll | yes netgear |
| 19:32.06 | Titan8990 | roll, thats a manufacturer of networking equipment. I was not aware that they had their own proprietary VPN software |
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| 19:32.33 | zu22 | ~dpkg tell roll about pptp |
| 19:32.36 | roll | yes, they have a "prosafe" client |
| 19:32.41 | zu22 | !dpkg tell roll about pptp |
| 19:32.56 | roll | it's easy to configure, but i cant see the dns part... |
| 19:33.04 | Titan8990 | roll, anyways, if the only debian portion is the DNS server which works internally, its likely not an issue with the debian |
| 19:33.11 | Titan8990 | roll, i suggest ##networking |
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| 19:35.21 | roll | thanks zu22, Titan8990. I will try to figure out what went wrong with vpn config |
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| 19:35.48 | zu22 | roll: wilkommen |
| 19:35.52 | Titan8990 | roll, I would also look at the DNS configuration of the client.... |
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| 19:36.45 | Titan8990 | I would hope that fancy proprietary firewall/vpn (yuck!) can handle packet capture for diagnostics |
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| 19:38.16 | roll | :) not sure. (i liked the yuck part :D) will probably move to some other solution.... |
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| 19:39.28 | rodr1go | is there a command to check if boot works before you even reboot the system? i've just deleted lilo and installed grub |
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| 19:39.58 | nsadmin | Hi. How would I make a udev rule (lenny 2.6.26-2-xen-686) that says: "my cdrom drive, /dev/hde, should also be called /dev/cdrom" (right now it's called cdrom1) |
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| 19:41.59 | nsadmin | rodr1go: if you've only installed grub, you have to also do the grub-install process, or install grub using the grub shell's install command |
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| 19:43.04 | rodr1go | nsadmin, thanks i've already done that and also checked the menu.lst and update-grub I am just scared to reboot before making sure everything is fine as I am acessing remotly |
| 19:43.08 | nsadmin | is it possible to alter fdisk configuration so that by default it creates primary partitiions with chainload space right after the partition boot sector? |
| 19:43.35 | nsadmin | rodr1go: that's a good reason to be concerned... |
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| 19:44.28 | nsadmin | is this remote a virtual server you rent? |
| 19:44.47 | rodr1go | yes |
| 19:45.08 | rodr1go | not virtual dedicated |
| 19:45.33 | nsadmin | ok, does it have a serial console? |
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| 19:46.43 | nsadmin | (I don't know the answer to your original question: is it possible to know if it will work before rebooting) |
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| 19:48.31 | rodr1go | nsadmin, i dont think it has so i just tried rebooting :( not working i guess i will have to reinstall and ask the support as they version is modified i've done all correctly and did not boot up thanks anyway for you help |
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| 19:50.49 | nsadmin | would support place some kind of plain-vanilla boilerplate on it? |
| 19:52.49 | rodr1go | dont know I eve check if the mbr was ok with dd if=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 2>&1 | grep GRUB and there was matched the new kernel was matched dont know what really happend I installed xen as well |
| 19:54.13 | nsadmin | is this a machine you bought and shipped to the colo place? |
| 19:54.36 | rodr1go | nsadmin, i rented from ovh |
| 19:55.13 | nsadmin | ok, how did the os originally get put on it? |
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| 19:55.41 | rodr1go | they have they control panel and everything is pre configured by them |
| 19:56.09 | nsadmin | ok. do you have data on that machine? |
| 19:56.19 | rodr1go | there's a menu to re-install OS if you want and everything is pre-configured |
| 19:56.20 | nsadmin | stuff you would need to back up |
| 19:56.33 | rodr1go | nsadmin, not data i just got it |
| 19:56.48 | nsadmin | ok, then perhaps you can have it reinstall |
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| 19:57.10 | rodr1go | nsadmin, i was trying to replace lilo with grub to use xen on it as xen works better with grub |
| 19:57.12 | VanEldo | hi :) |
| 19:57.28 | rodr1go | nsadmin, yep i already done it will try again |
| 19:59.32 | nsadmin | and if you really want grub, you'd need to do some prep work to see how you want grub installed, get the commands together to install grub, back up the relevent parts (maybe that's just the mbr) and arrange to get the support guy's attention when you actually do it |
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| 20:00.08 | rodr1go | will do thanks |
| 20:00.38 | nsadmin | me, I -always- put grub stage1 on mbr and stage2 in chainload sectors (the 64 after mbr) |
| 20:00.45 | nsadmin | which grub-install does not do |
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| 20:01.53 | nsadmin | the tech guy could at least tell you if you get a GRUB> prompt when you reboot |
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| 20:04.06 | nsadmin | I'd say you need a serial console |
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| 20:08.40 | jelly | nsadmin: does it fit all in those 63 sectors? |
| 20:09.08 | nsadmin | hmm,,, grub-legacy, let's see |
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| 20:10.47 | Fantom__ | how can i use apt-cache to search lenny-backports sources? |
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| 20:10.59 | Fantom__ | apt-cache -t lenny-backports search <string> or what? |
| 20:11.06 | nsadmin | looks like the 64 is 32768 bytes |
| 20:11.26 | nsadmin | stage2 is like 100k |
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| 20:13.33 | nsadmin | so, no... not sure why my install is working :) |
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| 20:15.18 | macman_ | anyone ever use tcprobe, tccat, tcextract and tcrequant to rip / shirnk movies ? |
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| 20:19.34 | dkr | macman_: it's better to ask your real question rather than take surveys |
| 20:19.59 | Hideme | If I wanted to create subdomain.example.com and point it to an IP, would that be a CNAME? |
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| 20:20.31 | dondelelcaro | Hideme: doesn't have to be |
| 20:20.41 | dondelelcaro | Hideme: if you point it directly at an IP, it's just an A record |
| 20:20.53 | Hideme | dondelelcaro: ok thanks |
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| 20:27.23 | SimManiac | hi |
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| 20:33.39 | Reemo | hey guys, (debian squeeze). I set up an openfire server but the admin console only listens on [::1]:9090. How can i force it to use ipv4 or disable ipv6 as a whole on my os? |
| 20:38.25 | Hydroxide | Reemo: you're getting hit by this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=560056 |
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| 20:39.21 | Hydroxide | Reemo: two workarounds, one that changes behavior for openfire as part of your jvm invocation and one that changes the system default in this regard back to lenny-and-earlier |
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| 20:42.33 | simonrvn | i did the sysctl thing |
| 20:42.42 | RichiH | is there a way to force a NIC with a specific mac address to always have a specifc name? |
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| 20:43.19 | Reemo | Hydroxide, thank you SO MUCH! |
| 20:44.11 | simonrvn | didn't know openfire was java-based... |
| 20:44.29 | Hydroxide | simonrvn: yes, it is |
| 20:44.42 | Hydroxide | Reemo: you're welcome |
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| 20:46.17 | HackeMate | how can I install codecs for avi files? |
| 20:46.40 | HackeMate | Totem doesn't find a good codec |
| 20:47.22 | xand | !codecs |
| 20:47.22 | dpkg | rumour has it, codecs is See <w32codecs>, or for a run-down of various free(ish) codecs and container formats, see http://www.avidemux.org/admForum/viewtopic.php?pid=19555 |
| 20:47.25 | sepult | gstreamer ? |
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| 20:48.09 | karlpinc | !multimedia |
| 20:48.09 | dpkg | it has been said that dmm is Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm lenny> <dmm squeeze>. |
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| 20:50.21 | Anarky | hi |
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| 20:51.20 | Anarky | I'm using sid and I made a mistake yesterday: I removed fglrx and let xorg update to 7.5 |
| 20:51.50 | Anarky | does any of you know where I could still find the xorg 7.4 packages for amd64 ? |
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| 21:22.46 | otwieracz | Hey. |
| 21:23.07 | otwieracz | Is there anything to use *ONLY* gpg v2.x? |
| 21:23.40 | otwieracz | I see that gpg v1.x is essential. |
| 21:23.42 | otwieracz | Why? |
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| 21:33.24 | smoofra | how the crap do you contribute a package to debian? |
| 21:33.51 | abrotman | you mean just contribute? you can use the mentors system |
| 21:33.53 | abrotman | !mentors |
| 21:33.54 | dpkg | methinks mentors is the system that the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg> or <mg>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ http://mentors.debian.net/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org. |
| 21:34.11 | Zephyrus | Hi, does anyone know if there is a way to force apt to use a specific kernel version when configuring packages during an installation/upgrade? I'm working in a chroot and the kernel version of the system in the chroot differs from the one of the host |
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| 21:43.18 | neoice | so I'm trying to get p54usb working. the wikipage (http://wiki.debian.org/prism54) recommends grabbing the firmware. would it maybe just be in linux-firmware-nonfree? |
| 21:44.57 | abrotman | neoice: it might be .. i'm surprised the wiki doesn't say |
| 21:45.46 | neoice | abrotman: I'm pretty sure it worked by default on my sid machine. /me checks for nonfree |
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| 21:47.06 | macrobat | i'm trying to umount the chrooted /proc and /dev after a chroot, but "device is busy". how do i shut it down? |
| 21:48.14 | sepult | what's your pwd = |
| 21:48.18 | sepult | ? |
| 21:48.26 | sepult | are you still in the chroot dir ? |
| 21:48.32 | sepult | or did you jump to / |
| 21:48.43 | macrobat | i left the chroot |
| 21:49.02 | sepult | are there any other tty's where you have left something open ? |
| 21:49.07 | macrobat | chroot in again and kill all processes? |
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| 21:49.38 | jelly-home | macrobat: that doesn't make sense, processes are shared |
| 21:49.40 | sepult | yep |
| 21:49.49 | sepult | and umount -a there |
| 21:49.50 | macrobat | nothing open. lsof says a getty uses the /dev |
| 21:49.54 | sepult | before you leave |
| 21:50.27 | sepult | then do a init q |
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| 21:51.11 | eptalon | heyas |
| 21:51.43 | eptalon | has the annoying bug in grub-pc (I think) been fixed, whereby the pc would no longer start? |
| 21:52.05 | macrobat | if i chroot and do "umount -a" it says "device is busy" |
| 21:52.36 | eptalon | macrobat: open files? |
| 21:52.48 | seba | how can i find out with which options a module was loaded? (for instance modprobe foobar a=b) |
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| 21:53.15 | eptalon | seba: IIRC you can't. |
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| 21:55.25 | abrotman | seba: depends on the module .. some of them have it stored, some do not .. |
| 21:55.45 | macrobat | open files how? i have run dpkg-reconfigure |
| 21:56.09 | abrotman | seba: /sys/module/<module>/parameters .. if that module does it |
| 21:56.29 | dondelelcaro | macrobat: so just lazy umount it |
| 21:56.51 | macrobat | lsof on the /dev gives a lot of processes |
| 21:56.56 | seba | hm, no parameters there.. okay, then i cant.. thx ;) |
| 21:57.09 | macrobat | lazy == power button? |
| 21:59.10 | dondelelcaro | macrobat: no. man mount |
| 21:59.32 | dondelelcaro | macrobat: and you generally just bind mount /dev, you don't directly mount it |
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| 22:00.06 | p3rror | i wana sent 1000sms per day |
| 22:00.15 | p3rror | what do you recommand me to use |
| 22:00.21 | p3rror | a phone sms gateway |
| 22:00.25 | macrobat | yes it was bind mounted along with sys and proc |
| 22:00.44 | macrobat | p3rror: sp4mm3r :) |
| 22:00.48 | p3rror | héhé |
| 22:01.01 | macrobat | ok, it works now |
| 22:01.30 | p3rror | not really i don't like this |
| 22:01.36 | p3rror | but my office ask |
| 22:01.51 | p3rror | for a solution to send more that 1000 sms day |
| 22:02.12 | dondelelcaro | p3rror: there are lots of methods to do that, but none of them are on topic here |
| 22:02.31 | joltcan | p3rror: get a cellphone and fight with kannel |
| 22:02.38 | p3rror | yep |
| 22:02.53 | p3rror | that what i may use and i will use it for nagios too |
| 22:02.56 | p3rror | :) |
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| 22:03.14 | p3rror | dondelelcaro, i come here and i ask for every thing |
| 22:03.14 | joltcan | p3rror: Works great, easy to hook into with other scripts etc |
| 22:03.19 | p3rror | and no where |
| 22:03.48 | dondelelcaro | p3rror: that's great, but it's still not on topic here |
| 22:03.53 | p3rror | dondelelcaro, because people move here and reply to most of questions |
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| 22:05.08 | error4o4 | getting a Unexpected end of file for this script http://pastebin.com/zWSSSMCe any idea? |
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| 22:05.29 | seba | line 12, add a ; maybe |
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| 22:07.08 | keith4 | error4o4: try #bash |
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| 22:07.33 | pappanz | hi. I'm trying to install debian from a businesscard image on a pc which should share the connection via a crossover cable to another computer, may someone provide some help? it seems I can't do it because the dhcp doesn't work |
| 22:08.01 | keith4 | so specify your network settings manually |
| 22:08.15 | pappanz | the architecture of the network is the following: [modem/router] . . . . . (wireless) . . . . . pc1 -----x----- pc2 |
| 22:08.24 | Tramp | error4o4: you EOF must not be indented |
| 22:08.41 | pappanz | keith4, I tried but it doesn't work either |
| 22:08.51 | error4o4 | Tramp: will try that now |
| 22:09.28 | keith4 | pappanz: then your network isn't right |
| 22:09.55 | pappanz | keith4, what do you mean? I cannot ping pc2 from pc1... |
| 22:10.00 | error4o4 | yea, seems like the indentation was making the problems, thx |
| 22:10.24 | keith4 | pappanz: precisely my point |
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| 22:11.07 | pappanz | keith4, I don't get what you mean sorry |
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| 22:11.35 | keith4 | pappanz: either your network isn't set up right, on one end or both, or you don't understand networking well enough to do this |
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| 22:12.31 | Ssmario | Hi, i've already exposed my problem yesterday concerning GRUB. i'm trying to reinstall debian and i get the same error right now. |
| 22:12.41 | pappanz | keith4, probably both, but still I don't get what's wrong |
| 22:12.58 | pappanz | I also enabled ip forwarding on pc1 |
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| 22:14.35 | pappanz | then I am here to ask if anyone "understands networking well enough to do this" and help me |
| 22:15.46 | Ssmario | i'm writing down the errors message reported on the logs (ctrl+alt+F4) |
| 22:15.49 | Tramp | pappanz: you enabled ip forwarding on pc1 and put wired/wirelss interface in different subnets? |
| 22:16.16 | pappanz | Tramp, I didn't do the latter |
| 22:16.34 | pappanz | Tramp, I guess this is why I should use route |
| 22:16.41 | Tramp | pappanz: that's what you have to do. Then set the wired IF of pc1 as default-GW of pc2 |
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| 22:17.02 | Tramp | pappanz: if you don't use different subnets, you'd have to bridge. Since you route, you need different subnets |
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| 22:17.56 | gothenburg | ATI Radeon 4200 and linux? |
| 22:18.02 | gothenburg | is it working? |
| 22:18.08 | pappanz | Tramp, this is really clear. thanks. Since I never used "route" or this kind of stuff I have to learn something |
| 22:19.06 | Ssmario | something like : paste.ubuntu.com/383278/ |
| 22:19.11 | nm9 | Hi, how can I disable gnome when system starts. I wanna use command like more unless I should use a program in X that it's not gnome, just X |
| 22:19.29 | nm9 | *command line |
| 22:19.45 | Tramp | pappanz: note: you either have to masquerade the "inner" subnet on pc1 or you need a static route back for this subnet on the router |
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| 22:20.22 | Tramp | pappanz: if you don't masquerade, the router needs to know, that it has to send packets for this "inner" subnet via pc1 (the wireless IF of pc1) |
| 22:20.27 | [SkG] | gothenburg, if you don't hate the closed source drivers you must have a look here: http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/catalyst_99_linux.pdf |
| 22:20.56 | pappanz | Tramp, ok, let's see... |
| 22:21.05 | pappanz | nm9, http://www.debianadmin.com/howto-boot-debian-in-text-mode-instead-of-graphical-mode-gui.html ? |
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| 22:24.28 | gothenburg | why is every cheap laptop with ATI? |
| 22:24.46 | macrobat | there are those w intel |
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| 22:25.29 | gothenburg | intel and 3d support? |
| 22:25.44 | Ssmario | my disk is partitioned as follow : http://paste.ubuntu.com/382388/ |
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| 22:32.17 | pappanz | Tramp, should I add pc2 to pc1's routing table via a "route add -net ..."? |
| 22:32.37 | Tramp | pappanz: no. For pc1 everything is directly connected |
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| 22:34.43 | Ssmario | after some googling i think i'm concerned with this bug report http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=544949 |
| 22:35.02 | Ssmario | what can i do ? or how can i help ? |
| 22:36.00 | pappanz | think it's really too hard |
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| 22:39.12 | nm9 | pappanz, tnx for link, now when type startx gnome appears... I just need X |
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| 22:39.49 | helo | it's pretty hard to use X without any wm/dm |
| 22:40.33 | amorfist | ahoj pomuze nekdo s postgresql? |
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| 22:42.54 | Tramp | !cz |
| 22:42.55 | dpkg | methinks cz is Czech Republic. Kanal pro cechy je #debian-cz |
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| 22:44.07 | Tramp | but I doubt it will be of much use ... |
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| 23:01.05 | shawncm217 | current iceweasel version? 3.5.8? |
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| 23:01.20 | gothenburg | How can I make "date" in figlet? |
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| 23:05.26 | nooper | figlet `date` |
| 23:05.54 | nooper | or figlet $(date) |
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| 23:06.20 | gothenburg | date | figlet |
| 23:06.21 | gothenburg | worked |
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| 23:06.40 | nooper | ah |
| 23:06.42 | judge-- | how can I "reload" the resolv.conf after a change? |
| 23:08.28 | micols | is it possible to eject just one usb device, power it off ? |
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| 23:08.43 | gothenburg | micols: umount? |
| 23:08.52 | gothenburg | or what DE are you running? |
| 23:09.00 | micols | gothenburg: no i mean physically power it off, it is a camera using libusb |
| 23:09.07 | micols | so i want to power off the usb-potr |
| 23:09.13 | gothenburg | ok, never tried |
| 23:09.15 | micols | without removing the hid module |
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| 23:09.26 | gothenburg | me sleeps. Time is 0:10 AM |
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| 23:09.29 | micols | perhaps under /proc/bus/usb or similar it might be possible |
| 23:09.55 | micols | what is DE?, if distribution im on lenny |
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| 23:10.22 | adb | gnome or kde or etc |
| 23:10.22 | micols | judge--: no need to reload it |
| 23:10.30 | micols | desktop environment ok |
| 23:10.35 | judge-- | Yeah, but it's not resolving.. |
| 23:10.36 | judge-- | stradioti:/var/www/moodle# host moodle.joinirc.org |
| 23:10.36 | judge-- | moodle.joinirc.org does not exist, try again |
| 23:11.02 | micols | judge--: try pinging your resolv dns server |
| 23:11.07 | micols | else the dns server might not allow you |
| 23:11.19 | micols | you could try googles, i think it was 8.8.8.8 |
| 23:11.51 | judge-- | micols how can I configure my server to use the google dns? |
| 23:11.56 | judge-- | I think the other is 4.4.8.8 |
| 23:11.59 | micols | it has a port 8.8.8.8/53 open |
| 23:12.01 | helo | 4.2.2.2 |
| 23:12.12 | helo | oh nm heh |
| 23:12.15 | judge-- | how can I configure the box to use them? |
| 23:12.35 | micols | judge--: just update resolv.conf, like 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' |
| 23:12.38 | micols | each on a newline |
| 23:12.43 | judge-- | ah, great.. thank you |
| 23:12.51 | micols | you probably forgot 'nameserver' :) |
| 23:13.03 | judge-- | is there any comment symbol for that file? |
| 23:13.08 | micols | yes # |
| 23:13.13 | judge-- | great. Thank you. |
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| 23:13.54 | micols | normally your resolv.conf is autoupdated with dhcp |
| 23:14.00 | micols | and with pppd |
| 23:14.18 | micols | but if you use static ip , you have to update it yourself maybe. |
| 23:14.20 | judge-- | "Configure your network settings to use the IP addresses 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 as your DNS servers" :) |
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| 23:14.36 | micols | good, i didn't remember it wrong it seems :) |
| 23:14.46 | judge-- | :) |
| 23:14.51 | judge-- | how can I force that reload? |
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| 23:15.05 | micols | it should be permanent if you place it there |
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| 23:15.22 | judge-- | ah no need.. it's working pretty good |
| 23:15.24 | judge-- | amazing! |
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| 23:15.55 | micols | it has a few disadvantages, such as latency to 8.8.8.8, so you might want to change it to your local isp nameserver |
| 23:16.17 | judge-- | yes.. |
| 23:16.20 | micols | i got 16ms to 8.8.8.8 so it isn't really a bottleneck for me |
| 23:16.31 | micols | but some may have 200ms :) |
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| 23:28.16 | judge-- | Is this conf wrong? If not, why do I keep getting this "it Works" message? http://paste.debian.net/61356/ |
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| 23:29.07 | tugrul | hi. i installed pulseaudio on debian testing. now i cannot control sound with my multimedia keyboard |
| 23:29.09 | tugrul | any suggestions? |
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| 23:29.52 | smoofra | so i'm trying to make a package, but every time i run dpkg-buildpackage it makes a new quilt patch for config.log.... |
| 23:30.10 | themill | smoofra: rm that file in your clean target |
| 23:30.42 | smoofra | themill: i checked that, it'/s not in the clean |
| 23:32.02 | smoofra | it's not in the orig.tar.gz, and it's not in the build directory either until I try to build the package |
| 23:32.17 | themill | that's why you should rm that file in your clean target |
| 23:32.53 | themill | smoofra: you should make sure that "debian/rules clean" gives you exactly the same thing as your freshly unpacked source. |
| 23:33.31 | smoofra | oh i see |
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| 23:34.45 | haole | hello there... i am trying to compile xserver-xorg with -march=native cflag, but i don't know the right way to do it... i'm downloading the source package with apt-get source, and i'm editing the rules file... is there a better way to do it? |
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| 23:35.11 | smoofra | themill: thanks |
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| 23:36.15 | beeman_nl | hi guys |
| 23:36.21 | beeman_nl | i'm working on a preseeded installation |
| 23:36.31 | beeman_nl | is tasksel tasksel/first multiselect standard really the minimal selection i can get? :) |
| 23:36.43 | beeman_nl | this installs exim for instance, which i don't need on my systems |
| 23:37.05 | themill | !why an mta |
| 23:37.06 | dpkg | An MTA should be on most UNIX(ish) systems to provide a way for various services to deliver asynchronous system or error messages. This includes things like cron and at (to give you the output of jobs) and various daemons (e.g. the init script of MySQL). The MTA does not have to listen to network ports so spam and security issues are largely irrelevant. Ask me about <nullmailer>. |
| 23:37.32 | beeman_nl | themill: i know i don't need it :) |
| 23:37.33 | themill | beeman_nl: ^^ you can replace it with some other mta that just pushes mail off to another machine |
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| 23:37.45 | beeman_nl | i just like to have a bare installation :) |
| 23:38.14 | beeman_nl | when i kickstart a centos install i can choose a 'core' package, just the bare minimal system... |
| 23:38.25 | beeman_nl | i'd like to have that for debian too :) |
| 23:39.07 | themill | beeman_nl: a minimal unixish system has an mta of some description on it. |
| 23:39.16 | beeman_nl | mwah |
| 23:39.18 | beeman_nl | depends |
| 23:39.33 | SimManiac | beeman_nl: default netinst installation does not install an mta |
| 23:39.34 | beeman_nl | my router doesn't have a mta on it |
| 23:39.34 | SimManiac | afaik |
| 23:39.45 | SimManiac | if you deselect all "tasks" from tasksel |
| 23:40.08 | beeman_nl | SimManiac: i guess the point is i can't automate that... |
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| 23:40.19 | beeman_nl | let's just leave the whole tasksel line out :) |
| 23:40.43 | themill | You should install the "standard" task and you can choose some mta other than exim for that. |
| 23:41.01 | beeman_nl | themill: i'm not going to use an mta |
| 23:41.06 | beeman_nl | so i will not install any |
| 23:41.17 | beeman_nl | i don't want stuff in this installation that i don't use |
| 23:41.25 | themill | I hope your cron jobs never want to tell you that they failed. |
| 23:41.30 | beeman_nl | it would be great if i could get it around 500 megs :) |
| 23:41.40 | beeman_nl | themill: who says my systems are running that long :) |
| 23:41.42 | SimManiac | themill: i don't even install the standard one |
| 23:41.50 | SimManiac | it has lots of unused dependencies |
| 23:42.07 | themill | I don't care what you do, you should. It contains all the tools that are expected to be on any standard unix environment. |
| 23:42.09 | SimManiac | beeman_nl: do they run for less than 5 minutes? |
| 23:42.21 | themill | has had enough of this "minimalist" bs |
| 23:42.24 | SimManiac | themill: are you sure of that? |
| 23:42.28 | beeman_nl | SimManiac: i'm using these for testing/development purposes :) |
| 23:42.40 | themill | !standard task |
| 23:42.41 | dpkg | well, standard task is a "task" that should be installed on all machines during the installer stage. It installs packages that are important, required and standard (i.e. "aptitude install ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant"). For a list of packages see http://wiki.debian.org/tasksel . Also ask me about <tasksel>. |
| 23:42.54 | beeman_nl | they are cluster nodes, they should just run for a while, then they get deleted completely :) |
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| 23:43.14 | beeman_nl | themill: i always thougt linux was about flexibilty |
| 23:43.23 | beeman_nl | if i want a machine without an mta, why not :) |
| 23:43.30 | themill | gives up |
| 23:43.35 | beeman_nl | thanks :) |
| 23:43.39 | SimManiac | themill: i don't install the standard task and all of the listed packages that I need are installed... |
| 23:43.48 | SimManiac | i guess that dependencies do their work :) |
| 23:43.53 | beeman_nl | my android phone doesn't have an MTA either :P |
| 23:44.02 | beeman_nl | whoooo... sue them :P |
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| 23:45.30 | beeman_nl | i'll even rewrite my initrd.gz to get what i want :) i just hope for a more standard solution |
| 23:45.47 | themill | standard is including an mta. your call |
| 23:45.51 | beeman_nl | :D |
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| 23:46.09 | beeman_nl | maybe i should be checking arch or something :) |
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| 23:46.22 | beeman_nl | thing is i don't know it at all, and i just want to have this running :) |
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| 23:46.47 | themill | maybe you should look at some of the things dpkg told you, e.g. nullmailer or equivs. Just don't complain when something breaks because an mta wasn't there. |
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| 23:47.00 | iElijah | hm |
| 23:47.02 | beeman_nl | themill: the mta is just an example.... |
| 23:47.09 | beeman_nl | there are loads of other stuff that i don't need |
| 23:47.20 | beeman_nl | i don't want it... it's not that difficult :) |
| 23:47.30 | beeman_nl | i want the bare minimal system to run me some jobs :) |
| 23:47.33 | themill | beeman_nl: if you're sure you don't need it, then don't install the standard task. |
| 23:47.34 | seba | on my x200t i miss some acpi events under debian (converting the laptop to tablet). they just don't appear in acpi_listen, but they do under an ubuntu live cd boot.. which packages could i be missing? |
| 23:47.35 | zu22 | go remove it if you don't need it |
| 23:47.44 | themill | isn't sure why this is so hard to comprehend |
| 23:47.44 | beeman_nl | themill: that's the thing |
| 23:47.54 | beeman_nl | themill: how do i do that in a preseed install |
| 23:47.59 | seba | i installed testing from a netinst |
| 23:48.00 | themill | most of it will get installed the first time you install a non-trivial package anyway |
| 23:48.09 | beeman_nl | it was never the question wether i need an MTA or not :) |
| 23:48.21 | beeman_nl | themill: there will be no more packages on them |
| 23:48.30 | beeman_nl | just the bare system, and my applications |
| 23:48.51 | zu22 | beeman_nl: maybe debian isn't for you, go check out LFS or Puppy Linux lol |
| 23:49.21 | beeman_nl | zu22: debian can do it, cause i dan deinstall all stuff afterwards |
| 23:49.36 | beeman_nl | that just doesn't make sense directly after installing them ;) |
| 23:49.39 | zu22 | beeman_nl: just write a script to do it |
| 23:49.57 | beeman_nl | zu22: no, then i'll fix my initrd.gz |
| 23:50.24 | beeman_nl | but i wouldn't wanna go that way |
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| 23:50.50 | themill | beeman_nl: preseeding doesn't require the installation of the standard task at all. Your preseed file must be requiring that. |
| 23:51.15 | beeman_nl | themill: oke, so i should leave the whole tasksel part? |
| 23:52.30 | beeman_nl | themill: please note that this was the original question when i entered the room :) |
| 23:52.57 | beeman_nl | 00:36 < beeman_nl> i'm working on a preseeded installation 00:36 < beeman_nl> is tasksel tasksel/first multiselect standard really the minimal selection i can get? :) |
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| 23:53.56 | seba | beeman_nl, you can do a netinst, select nothing there and get a very small system with coreutils + aptitude ;) |
| 23:54.10 | seba | and then you can start installing all the things you want |
| 23:54.13 | beeman_nl | seba: yeah, and i'd like that preseeded ;) |
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| 23:54.25 | beeman_nl | because i need to install about 50 of these guys :) |
| 23:54.39 | seba | well... bashscript |
| 23:54.52 | themill | have you tried leaving out the tasksel preseed? |
| 23:55.04 | beeman_nl | themill: i'm running that install now |
| 23:55.15 | beeman_nl | but it looks like it's quite busy... |
| 23:55.38 | beeman_nl | thing is that it's just not worth the time and bandwith to install heaps of software on 50 nodes, then remove it |
| 23:55.46 | beeman_nl | that doens't make sense |
| 23:56.04 | beeman_nl | and we'd like to be able to reinstall the lab a few times |
| 23:56.14 | adb | beeman_nl, nodes are the same ? |
| 23:56.24 | beeman_nl | adb: yeah, about... |
| 23:56.35 | beeman_nl | maybe some disks that are different |
| 23:56.42 | adb | i686 ? |
| 23:56.43 | beeman_nl | but imageing is no option |
| 23:56.45 | beeman_nl | :) |
| 23:56.50 | beeman_nl | euh yeah :) |
| 23:56.56 | seba | beeman_nl, ever thought about mirroring the debian repository if you want to reinstall so frequently? |
| 23:57.00 | zu22 | beeman_nl: clone |
| 23:57.08 | beeman_nl | seba: we have a local mirror |
| 23:57.39 | adb | beeman_nl, how much ram per node nodes ? |
| 23:57.47 | beeman_nl | it's all workarounds to the issue here :) |
| 23:57.55 | beeman_nl | adb: all +1GB |
| 23:57.59 | adb | ok |
| 23:58.04 | zu22 | !dpkg tell beeman_nl abut apt-mirror |
| 23:58.12 | beeman_nl | zu22: i know that |
| 23:58.14 | beeman_nl | :) |
| 23:58.15 | zu22 | !dpkg tell beeman_nl about apt-mirror |
| 23:58.21 | zu22 | ah :) |
| 23:58.23 | zu22 | cool |
| 23:58.37 | themill | beeman_nl: have you actually read the documentation on preseeding and tasksel at all? |
| 23:58.38 | adb | beeman_nl, use debirf (minimal) |
| 23:58.41 | beeman_nl | i just want the 'core' selection, that's it :) |
| 23:58.49 | beeman_nl | themill: several times yeah :) |
| 23:58.56 | beeman_nl | adb: i'll look that up :) |
| 23:59.12 | beeman_nl | themill: i have been preseeding/kickstartion installations for years, why :) |
| 23:59.23 | beeman_nl | *kickstarting |
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| 23:59.47 | themill | beeman_nl: because the documentation explicitly covers how to preseed tasksel and that "standard" is not the minimal option/ |
| 23:59.48 | beeman_nl | themill: leaving the tasksel line out of the installer prompted me for task selection |