| 00:00.01 | Wyzard | and as Arrowmaster said, you can configure the DHCP server to always give the same IP to the same machine, so you effectively have static IPs anyway, except they're configured in one place rather than on each individual machine |
| 00:00.29 | *** join/#debian \amethyst (~neil@74-131-198-189.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 00:00.51 | saulgoode | Wyzard: yes, but i only have two machines which i have to configure. which IMHO is easier then being bothered with configuring a DHCP server |
| 00:01.08 | Arrowmaster | admits to having 4 different game consoles all assigned static dhcp leases at one point |
| 00:01.41 | chops1 | EduardeCalibal: In general you don't need to worry about that. Why do you want to retune the way Linux uses your memory? |
| 00:01.43 | saulgoode | our WLAN machines do have static leases |
| 00:01.52 | pipeline_ | static leases go overboard |
| 00:01.52 | SPF | my router does dhcp, and my server does the dns. So I havent configured dhcp for dnsmasq either |
| 00:01.55 | pipeline_ | just set the lease times t obe really long |
| 00:02.00 | saulgoode | but they are given by the access point |
| 00:02.08 | baffled | Could someone explain the relationship between udev, avahi, hald and dbus? |
| 00:02.10 | pipeline_ | I have isc dhcpd 3 doing very long lease times and zone transfers to BIND |
| 00:02.15 | Wyzard | It sounds like your wireless access point is acting as another router, if it's running a DHCP server and assigning addresses to machines behind it |
| 00:02.29 | *** join/#debian sepult` (~user@xdsl-87-78-28-252.netcologne.de) |
| 00:02.33 | pipeline_ | baffled: avahi is a multicast dns implementation. It uses DBUS as a protocol for applications to register with it. It has no connection to udev or hald. |
| 00:02.37 | Wyzard | Rather than having a router behind a router, I'd recommend configuring the access point to act as a bridge |
| 00:02.44 | EduardeCalibal | chops1, my system is slow and I identify this as the cause... Or is my intense use of files... |
| 00:02.53 | pipeline_ | baffled: hald is a daemon that manages hardware. It uses dbus as a protocol for applications to talk to it. |
| 00:02.57 | Arrowmaster | Psi-Jack: oh according to the dnsmasq webpage it does do caching, its not just a dumb forwarder |
| 00:03.05 | EduardeCalibal | In any case I dont use memory and dont have to use when I need... |
| 00:03.07 | Bhavic | hm abrotman: In demsg there's a line where it says forcedeth: Reverse enginerd Ethernet controller; Could that be the problem> |
| 00:03.15 | pipeline_ | baffled: udev is the collection of scripts and shit that creates and deletes device nodes in /dev. hald has to talk to udev in order to cretae and delete device nodes when shit changes. |
| 00:03.20 | Psi-Jack | Arrowmaster: Yeah, only very minimal A and PTR (and AAAA, but you rarely use that anyway) |
| 00:03.31 | *** join/#debian Bohemian (~Bohemian@32.140.184.24) |
| 00:03.36 | abrotman | Bhavic: nope .. sounds normal to me |
| 00:03.44 | Bhavic | Hm ok |
| 00:03.51 | chops1 | EduardeCalibal: That is probably not the cause of your slow system. |
| 00:03.51 | Bhavic | There seems to be no other line |
| 00:04.01 | pipeline_ | having dns and dhcp integrate is fucking awesome |
| 00:04.10 | pipeline_ | friend brings a laptop to my house, blammo, it has a resolvable hostname |
| 00:04.12 | pipeline_ | as if by magic |
| 00:04.13 | Psi-Jack | pipeline_: Not when you need dual-redundant DHCP. ;) |
| 00:04.15 | pipeline_ | forward and reverse dns |
| 00:04.26 | *** join/#debian metaltux (~apel@s83-191-241-137.cust.tele2.se) |
| 00:04.35 | Bhavic | Ima try reinstall debian, might fix it lol |
| 00:04.35 | pipeline_ | Psi-Jack: I don't see why that would be an issue, assuming they talk to the same dns servers. |
| 00:04.36 | saulgoode | Wyzard: hm, but then i'd probably lose the DHCP feature, which I like, because it's so easy to configure ;) |
| 00:04.43 | chops1 | EduardeCalibal: A general rule is that looking into the cause of slowness (or misbehavior) needs to come before acting to try to fix things... often people guess at the cause and then try a fix to see if it works, but that's usually a slower way to go overall |
| 00:04.44 | Arrowmaster | Psi-Jack: those are the important ones, although i guess running a few email servers behind it could be a situation that called for a more robust setup |
| 00:04.56 | chops1 | EduardeCalibal: What is slow about it? |
| 00:05.03 | Psi-Jack | pipeline_: My setup at home is a dual-redundant firewall Active-Active firewall with Active-Active DHCP. ;) |
| 00:05.06 | Wyzard | saulgoode: Configure it in dnsmasq instead :-) |
| 00:05.12 | pipeline_ | Psi-Jack: at home? fuck that |
| 00:05.20 | *** join/#debian vegardx (vegardx@meganfox.sorlanet.no) |
| 00:05.31 | EduardeCalibal | chops1, nothing, but if I try open many things, or a big program or image all slow down, mouse, system, anything. |
| 00:05.34 | Psi-Jack | pipeline_: And they also bring their laptop and get a forward and reverse IP address, automagically with dual redundant fully caching dns servers. ;) |
| 00:05.36 | pipeline_ | Psi-Jack: my setup at home is a pentium pro running openbsd that hasn't been patched since 2003. The hard drive in it dates to the late 80s. I see no reason to ever fuck with it :D |
| 00:05.38 | EduardeCalibal | But I have more than 1GB free. |
| 00:05.46 | vegardx | How can I add files to checkinstall packages? --include does not add them to the .deb. |
| 00:05.50 | pipeline_ | Psi-Jack: no remote vulnerabilities so far in seven years :D |
| 00:05.52 | rfranknj | how do i redirect stderr of a program to a file |
| 00:06.05 | pipeline_ | rfranknj: in bash 2> will do you |
| 00:06.08 | Psi-Jack | pipeline_: basically, if one of my firewalls goes down, the other immediately takes over without any loss of connectivity./ ;) |
| 00:06.20 | Psi-Jack | So I can essentially reboot one firewall and never drop. ;) |
| 00:06.30 | pipeline_ | Psi-Jack: well, that's reasonable to achieve with vrrp. Redundant DNS also. Fuck dealing with redundant dhcp. |
| 00:06.37 | EduardeCalibal | chops1, my point is, my file cache is transfered from RAM to swap and this make my system slow... |
| 00:06.38 | chops1 | EduardeCalibal: How many CPUs do you have? What's hdparm say about your disk performance? |
| 00:06.58 | Psi-Jack | pipeline_: DHCPv3 actually does it very well. You just /have/ to make sure time between the two systems are kept in-sync constantly. |
| 00:06.59 | EduardeCalibal | Athlon XP 4000+, SATA2 disk... |
| 00:07.09 | chops1 | EduardeCalibal: You can disable swap temporarily to test that theory. |
| 00:07.13 | EduardeCalibal | 2x 1600MHz I think... |
| 00:07.23 | EduardeCalibal | How? |
| 00:07.36 | \amethyst | swapoff -a |
| 00:07.44 | EduardeCalibal | No... |
| 00:07.49 | EduardeCalibal | This disable the swap |
| 00:07.50 | \amethyst | but that won't do anything with file cache |
| 00:07.55 | EduardeCalibal | I dont need disable the swap |
| 00:08.03 | EduardeCalibal | I need disable the cache files in my memory. |
| 00:08.12 | \amethyst | not possible |
| 00:08.16 | EduardeCalibal | oO |
| 00:08.22 | chops1 | EduardeCalibal: You said "my file cache is transfered from RAM to swap and this make my system slow". I don't think that's what's making your system slow. If you disable swap and it's still slow, then I'm right. |
| 00:08.27 | pipeline_ | EduardeCalibal: seems very likely that your system is under i/o load |
| 00:08.36 | \amethyst | file cache doesn't go to swap anyway |
| 00:08.38 | EduardeCalibal | Yes, if I disable the swap the memory is out... |
| 00:08.39 | chops1 | EduardeCalibal: It takes two seconds to test and will enable you to more effectively identify the actual problem. |
| 00:08.39 | pipeline_ | EduardeCalibal: also it is not possible for file cache to go into swap |
| 00:09.04 | chops1 | EduardeCalibal: So if you disable the swap is your machine still slow under a similar load? |
| 00:09.13 | EduardeCalibal | I try... |
| 00:09.15 | *** join/#debian gauge (~gauge@166.186.168.175) |
| 00:09.15 | EduardeCalibal | Moment. |
| 00:09.29 | *** join/#debian jaminja_ (~toor@74.81.170.4) |
| 00:09.59 | EduardeCalibal | swapoff need some time... |
| 00:10.32 | saulgoode | Wyzard: hm. looking at my access point config: i think it's already running as a bridge, because its DHCP propagates my routers IP as the gateway address |
| 00:10.52 | EduardeCalibal | Ok, system is fast now... |
| 00:11.08 | EduardeCalibal | Gimp open in 10 seconds... |
| 00:11.23 | baffled | pipeline_: thank you very much but, hald isn't part of the base debian system is it? |
| 00:11.29 | \amethyst | EduardeCalibal: you might try turning down swappiness |
| 00:11.32 | EduardeCalibal | Cache in memory is now 50% |
| 00:11.51 | chops1 | EduardeCalibal: Under a similar load? You talked about opening a big image, not just opening gimp. |
| 00:11.58 | *** join/#debian takalie (~nedelcho@87.246.64.125) |
| 00:12.02 | EduardeCalibal | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:12.06 | baffled | Also, who would be responsible for assigning ids to usb drives when they are plugged in udev or hald? |
| 00:12.15 | EduardeCalibal | But this in file cache go all drop? |
| 00:12.18 | Wyzard | saulgoode: That's unusual, but it may just be doing proxy ARP or something to make that IP reachable from behind it |
| 00:13.04 | \amethyst | since swapoff took a while, it sounds like you were heavy into swap... when you did swapoff, the stuff in swap had to be loaded into RAM |
| 00:13.13 | \amethyst | which forced out some of the cached files |
| 00:13.29 | EduardeCalibal | All open very fast now... |
| 00:13.41 | saulgoode | Wyzard: hm, the doc says about "Bridge" mode: This mode bridges the AP and another AP also in bridge mode to connect two wired LANs |
| 00:14.07 | \amethyst | EduardeCalibal: if you re-enable swap does it get slow again? Does echo 20 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness change anything? |
| 00:14.08 | saulgoode | Wyzard: seems to be different from what you mean by bridging |
| 00:14.09 | EduardeCalibal | Nautilus is more light to. Folders open in 1/4 of time than before. |
| 00:14.16 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@217.28.0.43) |
| 00:14.16 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@unaffiliated/mentor) |
| 00:14.33 | jelly-home | \amethyst: does changing vm.swappiness _ever_ work? |
| 00:14.44 | EduardeCalibal | I try swappiness now... |
| 00:14.47 | Wyzard | saulgoode: That's one thing that wireless bridges can be used for, but not the only |
| 00:14.51 | chops1 | EduardeCalibal: Well, sure. You're not dug into swap anymore. The test is if you start doing something where swap is a performance win (for example, opening a big image). |
| 00:15.01 | chops1 | EduardeCalibal: Do you still have swap disabled? |
| 00:15.07 | EduardeCalibal | Yes... |
| 00:15.12 | chops1 | EduardeCalibal: If so, changing swappiness isn't going to do much for you. |
| 00:15.15 | rfranknj | jelly-home: any more tips? i tried rebooting.. still eating CPU, so is Xorg |
| 00:15.18 | EduardeCalibal | But I need the swap, I need more than 2GB of memory. |
| 00:15.20 | EduardeCalibal | :D |
| 00:15.29 | chops1 | EduardeCalibal: Did you try opening a big image or doing one of the tasks that made things slow previously? |
| 00:15.33 | jelly-home | EduardeCalibal: I suggest setting it to "1" and seeing how the system reacts during next few days |
| 00:15.54 | jelly-home | rfranknj: no, i'ts bug filing time |
| 00:16.02 | EduardeCalibal | swappiness to 1 to test? |
| 00:16.04 | EduardeCalibal | What 1 do? |
| 00:16.29 | jelly-home | EduardeCalibal: it makes the kernel very reluctant to use the swap, suposedly |
| 00:16.36 | \amethyst | if you're using more memory than you have RAM, things are going to be slow... there's not much you can do about that |
| 00:16.42 | jelly-home | EduardeCalibal: the tunable has values 0-100 |
| 00:17.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 878] by debhelper |
| 00:17.23 | \amethyst | EduardeCalibal: when there isn't enough memory, Linux has two options: swap out memory, or flush the cache |
| 00:17.24 | jelly-home | EduardeCalibal: are you using 32bit or 64bit Debian? The former uses less RAM. |
| 00:17.27 | EduardeCalibal | I start open many files and dont affect my use of irc... |
| 00:17.34 | \amethyst | EduardeCalibal: swappiness controls which of those it prefers |
| 00:17.42 | EduardeCalibal | Roger thant. |
| 00:17.44 | EduardeCalibal | that |
| 00:17.51 | Bhavic | ????? ? ????? ?????? |
| 00:17.54 | Bhavic | oops |
| 00:18.44 | EduardeCalibal | Out of memory... Ok, is in the plan... |
| 00:19.06 | saulgoode | Another question: Do you use DSL via PPP on your routers? |
| 00:19.09 | EduardeCalibal | Gimp is using 41% of memory (1GB) |
| 00:19.15 | chops1 | EduardeCalibal: Right, you just don't have enough memory for what you're trying to do |
| 00:19.38 | *** part/#debian xylox (~xylox@unaffiliated/xyox/x-040147) |
| 00:19.40 | EduardeCalibal | Yes, I still with no swap, I activate this soon. |
| 00:19.40 | chops1 | EduardeCalibal: As \amethyst said, you can decrease swappiness to make the kernel less inclined to swap things out (which is what you originally asked about) |
| 00:20.10 | chops1 | EduardeCalibal: Well, if you run out of memory with no swap, then you're going to swap with swap, regardless of what you set swappiness to. Swapping is going to make things slow. |
| 00:20.25 | Wyzard | saulgoode: Mine uses Ethernet... I've never had DSL |
| 00:20.33 | saulgoode | If yes, how do you configure iptables. I mean, where do you put your iptables script in that case (PPP connection on routers) |
| 00:20.37 | EduardeCalibal | Dont is it, I use swapoff before. |
| 00:20.38 | EduardeCalibal | :D |
| 00:20.57 | EduardeCalibal | I reload after reorder all here. |
| 00:21.12 | *** join/#debian macrobat (~duke@h-150-127.A163.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 00:21.41 | saulgoode | Wyzard: ethernet? really? that must be a fast internet connection... |
| 00:22.19 | Wyzard | saulgoode: It's Verizon's FiOS fiber service... not Ethernet all the way to the ISP, but Ethernet to their modem |
| 00:22.46 | saulgoode | ah |
| 00:22.56 | saulgoode | fiber sounds fast anyway :) |
| 00:22.57 | nsadmin | must be spensive |
| 00:23.08 | km0ti0n | Where can I find a list of sources for sid? |
| 00:23.19 | EduardeCalibal | Now I see, the value from /proc/sys/vm/swappiness is 60. Maybe is it my problem? |
| 00:23.22 | chops1 | !tell km0ti0n about sources.list |
| 00:23.29 | km0ti0n | thanks |
| 00:23.32 | Wyzard | saulgoode: Actually, in my case it's Ethernet to a DSL modem that carries the signal over about 50 feet of phone line to the closet on the side of my apartment building where the fiber terminal is installed |
| 00:23.37 | streuner | km0ti0n: if you have to ask, just use stable |
| 00:23.59 | Wyzard | but it works the same as at my previous residence where I had Ethernet straight to the optical terminal -- acts like plain Ethernet using DHCP, not PPP |
| 00:24.25 | Wyzard | nsadmin: $60/month USD for 15mbps down, 5mbps up |
| 00:24.54 | EduardeCalibal | My cache of files in memory now is only 16% |
| 00:25.01 | EduardeCalibal | I have many memory, thanks guys. |
| 00:25.37 | *** join/#debian Sememmon (~Sememmon@unaffiliated/sememmon) |
| 00:25.51 | Psi-Jack | heh |
| 00:25.52 | km0ti0n | thanks streuner, I'll take that under advicement. |
| 00:26.11 | *** join/#debian whiterabbi (sv@ip-414b12e3.ct.fixed.ntplx.com) |
| 00:26.21 | Psi-Jack | Heck, I don't even know what I pay anymore for internet. I have business class with currently a 5-IP block, about to upgrade to a 13-block. |
| 00:26.33 | Psi-Jack | for $20/mo more than I'm paying now. :/ |
| 00:26.39 | *** join/#debian okamura (~okamura@mfac.st.wakwak.ne.jp) |
| 00:26.44 | km0ti0n | My normaly mirror doesn't have all the sid sources, just wanted to move to a new one that does have. |
| 00:26.49 | streuner | km0ti0n: good, just get some experience with Debian first, and later use sid... |
| 00:27.02 | Wyzard | I'd like to have multiple IPs and not need to use NAT, but it's not worth paying extra for business-class service for a home network |
| 00:27.27 | Psi-Jack | Ahhhh.. $70 mo for 20mbit down 10mbit up. |
| 00:27.29 | streuner | km0ti0n: why? |
| 00:27.40 | streuner | km0ti0n: why do you think you need sid at all? |
| 00:27.55 | saulgoode | hm for use of dnsmasq I've got to edit /etc/resolv.conf (insert the providers dns nameservers) |
| 00:28.07 | Wyzard | saulgoode: yes |
| 00:28.20 | saulgoode | but the file contains this comment: # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8) |
| 00:28.20 | saulgoode | # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN |
| 00:28.39 | Wyzard | saulgoode: and if the provider's DNS servers change, you have to edit the file again -- that's why I use pdnsd and resolvconf instead |
| 00:29.20 | saulgoode | Wyzard: that's not a problem. it didn't change in years |
| 00:29.23 | km0ti0n | streuner: I really just wanted to have a play, been using lenny for some time and started using woody some years back. The same mirror is even missing stuff for my squeeze boxes. Figured I might aswell move to one that has sources for more than just lenny. |
| 00:29.27 | nsadmin | do you intend to do any kind of real work on the sid box? if so, I hope you back up, and I hope you're ready to solve any problem that comes up... the hard-line stance is that sid is not supported here |
| 00:29.44 | saulgoode | Wyzard: I'm just worried about the above comment |
| 00:30.06 | Wyzard | saulgoode: Actually, since it's on your router, you shouldn't need to hand-edit resolv.conf -- it should be filled in automatically by whatever it is that gets your IP information from your ISP (pppd, I guess) |
| 00:30.40 | streuner | km0ti0n: most new upstream stuff goes into sid/unstable first, after a testing phase (1-2 weeks) it goes into squeeze/testing. When Debian releases new stable in becomes stable... |
| 00:31.07 | km0ti0n | nsadmin: nar, like I say, I'm having issues with the mirror on squeeze. Figured if there was a decent mirror that had an uptodate sid list it would have it all. |
| 00:31.11 | endri | how can i make grub consider as root a certain directory in a partition |
| 00:31.32 | *** join/#debian sgoode (~saulgoode@188.104.243.130) |
| 00:31.45 | nsadmin | so you don't actually want sid |
| 00:31.45 | streuner | km0ti0n: that doesnt sound like a good plan to me |
| 00:32.13 | km0ti0n | Then let me re-structure the question, where's a decent mirror that'll have sources for both squeeze and lenny |
| 00:32.25 | chops1 | km0ti0n: http.(your country).debian.org |
| 00:32.28 | chops1 | km0ti0n: Also see netselect |
| 00:32.37 | streuner | most of the mirrors have all, stable, testing and unstable |
| 00:33.08 | *** join/#debian Spami|Thug (~Spami|Thu@unaffiliated/spamithug/x-9927323) |
| 00:33.12 | *** join/#debian sgoode (~saulgoode@188.104.243.130) |
| 00:33.16 | nsadmin | what issue are you having specifically |
| 00:33.16 | streuner | well, i think almost all |
| 00:33.46 | streuner | he want latest stuff? |
| 00:33.50 | km0ti0n | right, I've always used mir1.ovh.net, never had an issue untill the past few months. |
| 00:33.58 | *** join/#debian matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) |
| 00:34.02 | nsadmin | what issue are you having specifically |
| 00:34.16 | vegardx | checkinstall -D --addso=yes --include=/root/list make install <- /root/list contains the path of two files, any ideas why they are not included in the package? |
| 00:34.40 | jelly-home | there's that (experimental?) geoip cdn.debian.net thing |
| 00:34.57 | km0ti0n | It just fails to fetch a bunch of packages when updating. |
| 00:35.01 | *** join/#debian shogunx (~shogunx@2001:4978:106:1:211:d8ff:fe4e:bacc) |
| 00:35.15 | streuner | km0ti0n: so you are using pinning? |
| 00:35.32 | baffled | Can someone tell me which application is responsible for assigning an id to newly plugged in usb drives? |
| 00:35.54 | nsadmin | have you tried aptitude update |
| 00:35.55 | jhutchins_lt | baffled: What kind of id? |
| 00:36.01 | *** join/#debian gm152_ (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) |
| 00:36.14 | themill | km0ti0n: perhaps you should pastebin the output of "aptitude update; apt-cache policy" |
| 00:36.19 | baffled | Well, I was using /dev/disk/by-id but uuid would be okay as well. |
| 00:36.42 | lindi- | baffled: udev manages /dev |
| 00:36.44 | Wyzard | probably udev |
| 00:36.45 | baffled | I had an mdadm array which seems to lost the ability to find the drive id. |
| 00:36.56 | nsadmin | themill: and his sources.list |
| 00:37.11 | streuner | yeah, would be interesting |
| 00:37.13 | baffled | Hmm, |
| 00:37.24 | Wyzard | baffled: The names in /dev/disk/by-id are attributes of the disk itself, but it's udev that creates the links there |
| 00:37.25 | themill | nsadmin: apt-cache policy is frequently enough |
| 00:37.36 | streuner | is still confused what he want |
| 00:37.46 | *** join/#debian roe_ (~roe___@216-164-214-182.c3-0.eas-ubr15.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) |
| 00:37.51 | *** join/#debian gm152_ (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) |
| 00:38.33 | *** join/#debian Third3ye (~Third3ye@c06304BC1.dhcp.bluecom.no) |
| 00:38.47 | jhutchins_lt | km0ti0n: From what I've seen here it's better to use the dynamic default mirrors rather than try to specify one. |
| 00:38.59 | abrotman | disagrees |
| 00:39.11 | baffled | Okay Wyzard thanks I'll try to figure out why udev isn't assiging those symlinks anymore. |
| 00:39.11 | abrotman | at least if you choose a specific one, the problems are consistent |
| 00:39.45 | km0ti0n | That's it, I've change to gb.debian.org, from the ovh mirrors and it's working fine now. |
| 00:39.53 | Psi-Jack | Hmmm, curious.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856101083 -- That doesn't appear to actually come with a CPU or RAM, does it? |
| 00:40.13 | Wyzard | baffled: I don't think mdadm arrays depend on specific symlinks in /dev/disk for the component devices, though |
| 00:40.15 | Psi-Jack | Or even HDD. |
| 00:40.21 | abrotman | Psi-Jack: no, and ##hardware |
| 00:40.25 | jhutchins_lt | Psi-Jack: Sorry, this is Debian Support. |
| 00:40.35 | Wyzard | baffled: Typically it scans all disks itself and detects RAID superblocks |
| 00:40.50 | baffled | No I think you are correct but that is what I used to identify the individual drive devices. |
| 00:41.13 | Wyzard | baffled: Identify them where? In mdadm.conf? |
| 00:41.19 | baffled | I don't think it can find them anymore for some reason Wyzard . |
| 00:41.25 | *** join/#debian buntfalke (~nobody@unaffiliated/buntfalke) |
| 00:41.32 | baffled | Wyzard: yes. |
| 00:41.48 | Wyzard | baffled: You don't need to list all the individual drives in mdadm.conf, just the name or UUID of the array |
| 00:42.05 | Wyzard | baffled: mdadm can find the disks that match when it scan them all |
| 00:42.22 | *** join/#debian gauge (~gauge@166.186.168.233) |
| 00:42.23 | baffled | Well, it doesn't seem to be able to anymore. |
| 00:42.28 | themill | km0ti0n: I presume you mean ftp.uk.debian.org |
| 00:43.01 | baffled | They show up with lsusb but mdadm can't find them. |
| 00:43.18 | Wyzard | baffled: What's on the DEVICE line in your mdadm.conf? |
| 00:43.24 | baffled | Maybe it's because I have them listed as devices in mdadm.conf. |
| 00:43.51 | baffled | Wyzard: ht I'll check. |
| 00:44.53 | *** join/#debian gm152_ (~gm@d216-121-212-105.home3.cgocable.net) |
| 00:45.15 | baffled | Wyzard: here are my lines for that array: |
| 00:45.16 | baffled | DEVICE /dev/disk/by-id/usb-3020157442020202020204d7920426f6f6b2020202020202020205755325431313034393233372020-part1 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-3020157442020202020204d7920426f6f6b2020202020202020205755325431313035393938372020-part1 |
| 00:45.25 | baffled | ARRAY /dev/md1 level=linear devices=/dev/disk/by-id/usb-3020157442020202020204d7920426f6f6b2020202020202020205755325431313034393233372020-part1,/dev/disk/by-id/usb-3020157442020202020204d7920426f6f6b2020202020202020205755325431313035393938372020-part1 |
| 00:45.42 | Wyzard | baffled: OK, your mdadm.conf is much more specific than it needs to be |
| 00:45.55 | Psi-Jack | Heh.. Wow.. |
| 00:46.03 | baffled | Ah, what would you recommend? |
| 00:46.04 | Wyzard | baffled: If you have "DEVICE partitions" (the default) then mdadm will look for RAID superblocks on all devices listed in /proc/partitions |
| 00:46.11 | Wyzard | which is more resilient against ID changes |
| 00:46.14 | rfranknj | anyone know what this error means? Fluxbox: X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter)(9) opcodes 64/0 resource 0x80023c |
| 00:46.30 | Wyzard | and on the ARRAY line, use UUID= or name= instead of listing all the device names |
| 00:47.45 | Wyzard | rfranknj: It means fluxbox tried to draw something but did something wrong in telling the X server where it should be drawn... most likely a bug in the program |
| 00:48.20 | Wyzard | baffled: The "name=" might only work for arrays with version 1.x superblocks (names work differently for version 0.90 superblocks) but UUID should work for any array |
| 00:48.20 | *** join/#debian jelly-hme (~jelly@islands.iskon.hr) |
| 00:48.28 | *** join/#debian xxiao_ (~chatzilla@70.114.141.218) |
| 00:48.45 | Wyzard | baffled: For example, I have: ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid10 num-devices=4 UUID=425c16fb:74c9683a:dd82fa75:dbadf535 |
| 00:48.58 | Wyzard | baffled: and the level= and num-devices= aren't actually necessary |
| 00:49.30 | *** join/#debian LinuxMercedes (~LinuxMerc@r01nmjxv3.device.mst.edu) |
| 00:49.37 | Wyzard | When mdadm scans all the devices in /proc/partitions, it notices that /dev/sda2, /dev/sdb2, /dev/sdc2, and /dev/sdd2 contain superblocks with that UUID, so it assembles the array using those devices |
| 00:49.41 | rfranknj | Wyzard: bizarre because its there in fluxbox 1.1.1 and i compiled from git, same problem. this kinda just showed up randomly.. |
| 00:50.15 | *** join/#debian ChefMans (~ChefManco@cpe-76-173-128-179.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 00:50.29 | *** join/#debian NoCode (~NoCode@unaffiliated/nocode) |
| 00:50.38 | *** join/#debian mns (~mns@c-76-119-251-7.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 00:50.45 | abrotman | ChefMans: if you'd stop joining/quiting, we could help you |
| 00:51.17 | ChefMans | Sorry... people...things... messing with my day |
| 00:52.10 | abrotman | blames things .. |
| 00:52.14 | ChefMans | I am here to stay now |
| 00:52.30 | ChefMans | so ya... I am really new to linux |
| 00:52.58 | abrotman | really new? |
| 00:53.17 | abrotman | ChefMans: what are you looking for help with ? |
| 00:54.17 | ChefMans | just put Linux on my msi Wind adn when i go to tell it to make the Wifi it gives me the error expected identifier before numeric constant |
| 00:55.00 | abrotman | ChefMans: what does 'uname -r' say ? |
| 00:55.32 | ChefMans | 2.6.32-trunk-amd64 |
| 00:55.56 | *** join/#debian erin (~erin@19.180.101.97.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 00:56.08 | abrotman | ChefMans: what does 'lspci -nn | grep -i net' say for your wifi device ? |
| 00:56.11 | Wyzard | That's an outdated sid kernel |
| 00:56.19 | abrotman | Wyzard: or current squeeze kernel |
| 00:56.22 | Wyzard | ah |
| 00:56.26 | abrotman | ,kernels |
| 00:56.27 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.33-2-686 (2.6.33-1~experimental.2); sid: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9); squeeze: 2.6.32-trunk-686 (2.6.32-5); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.2-686 (2.6.32-8~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-21lenny4); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 00:56.38 | erin | hello peeps can somebody please give me an example of a 3.x irc.confg config file in a pastbin PLEASE that user manual is confusing the heck outa me i just want one COMPLETE example please |
| 00:56.51 | abrotman | 3.x of WHAT? |
| 00:56.55 | erin | so i can edit it 13 times and be done with it.. I dont care about other options i will add them as i need |
| 00:57.02 | erin | weechat curses |
| 00:57.04 | erin | sorry. |
| 00:57.18 | abrotman | erin: there's a large #weechat |
| 00:58.04 | erin | ok i see it now everytime i went in befor enoones was there |
| 00:58.06 | nsadmin | aren't there examples in /usr/share/doc/weechat? |
| 00:58.31 | ChefMans | Network RaLink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1t/1r PCIe |
| 00:58.32 | *** join/#debian Bohemian (~Bohemian@174-152-52-158.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 00:59.28 | themill | ,pciid 1814:3090 |
| 00:59.30 | judd | [1814:3090] is 'RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe' from 'RaLink' with no known kernel module in lenny but has kernel module 'rt3090sta' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1814:3090 |
| 01:00.06 | *** join/#debian Henrik`G (~hb@c83-249-67-192.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 01:00.08 | erin | and how woulc i know that nsadmin ... |
| 01:00.38 | jelly-hme | every package has documentation in /usr/share/doc/packagename/, erin |
| 01:00.53 | *** part/#debian dirkson (~dirkson@97-115-70-194.ptld.qwest.net) |
| 01:00.59 | jelly-hme | also, one can look at the contents of a package |
| 01:01.00 | erin | ... |
| 01:01.09 | erin | well i keep forgeting things sorry geeesh |
| 01:01.27 | erin | yes its the same doc ont eh webpage confusing as all get |
| 01:01.32 | jelly-hme | write them down! |
| 01:01.38 | erin | i column og options |
| 01:01.40 | *** join/#debian likevinyl (~mikeriver@unaffiliated/likevinyl) |
| 01:01.41 | nsadmin | geeesh: No such nick/channel |
| 01:01.46 | erin | of options for the config... |
| 01:01.58 | erin | i dont get it at all i need in in a working example to make it click |
| 01:02.44 | *** join/#debian slb_ (~nada@ool-4354b092.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 01:03.08 | erin | their saying to do it in the chat app |
| 01:03.10 | erin | lol |
| 01:03.13 | erin | great |
| 01:03.28 | baffled | Wyzard: sorry for the delay there, my /proc/partition doesn't appear to have anything but the device name which changes when a drive is plugged in or unplugged, it looks like this in general: 8 65 976760001 sde1 |
| 01:03.29 | slb_ | i just set up bind and wildcard dns and i used nslookup and everything seems to be ok on that end but I want to view from windows does anyone know what i have to edit on that edit to get it working wiht linux? |
| 01:03.34 | ChefMans | Did you get that abortman |
| 01:03.43 | abrotman | ChefMans: nope ... |
| 01:03.54 | ChefMans | Network RaLink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1t/1r PCIe |
| 01:03.58 | Wyzard | baffled: and that's OK; the "sde1" corresponds to a name in /dev |
| 01:04.05 | abrotman | ChefMans: i thikn themill was pointing you at something |
| 01:04.15 | ChefMans | ooo |
| 01:04.20 | ChefMans | lets see |
| 01:04.28 | *** join/#debian cairo_ (~tooar@p4FC2324D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:04.35 | *** part/#debian jelly-hme (~jelly@islands.iskon.hr) |
| 01:04.36 | baffled | Um, Wyzard actually it doesn't. |
| 01:05.15 | Wyzard | You have no /dev/sde1? |
| 01:05.18 | baffled | In my /dev currently I only have sda, sdb, sdc which are internal drive comprising another array. |
| 01:05.44 | Wyzard | Did you unplug a USB drive? |
| 01:05.56 | baffled | Nope, partition says I should have sdd, sdd1, sde and sde1 but they aren't in /dev. |
| 01:06.32 | baffled | I unplugged them a couple weeks ago but I've rebooted the system since then. |
| 01:07.10 | Wyzard | /proc/partitions shows what hardware the kernel currently thinks is connected |
| 01:07.28 | Wyzard | It can't remember things across a reboot |
| 01:07.35 | baffled | Interesting, then udev isn't keeping the links current. |
| 01:08.02 | Wyzard | which probably explains the missing links in /dev/disk too |
| 01:08.06 | *** join/#debian Bohemian_ (~Bohemian@32.167.139.188) |
| 01:08.22 | *** join/#debian jzacsh (~jzacsh@64.134.41.83) |
| 01:08.44 | *** join/#debian slidesinger (~slidesing@c-68-44-99-50.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 01:08.45 | ChefMans | I see that information there... I just dont know what to do with it... |
| 01:08.47 | baffled | Should I restart udev do you think? |
| 01:10.38 | *** join/#debian Holborn (~holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 01:10.38 | Wyzard | You could try it |
| 01:11.42 | *** join/#debian hokapoka (~andrew@hoka.hokapoka.com) |
| 01:11.46 | ChefMans | Thank you for the info judd I just dont know what to do with it |
| 01:12.02 | Wyzard | baffled: I'd also try running "udevadm trigger" |
| 01:12.22 | *** join/#debian hokapoka (~andrew@hoka.hokapoka.com) |
| 01:12.58 | abrotman | ChefMans: judd is one of hte channel bots .. he's telling you that 'rt3090sta' .. should make it work |
| 01:13.53 | ChefMans | abrotman this is where me being a totall nub comes into play facepalm |
| 01:14.35 | abrotman | ChefMans: find /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ -name rt3090sta.ko .. does it return anything ? |
| 01:16.12 | ChefMans | no such file or directiry |
| 01:16.14 | hokapoka | Is there a list somewhere of what packages are installed from the different options on the initia install menu? Normally I unselect all and just install what I need, wouldn't mind seeing whats there before I proceed. |
| 01:16.33 | Titan8990 | ChefMans: try again without typoing 'find' |
| 01:16.59 | Titan8990 | hokapoka: not from within the installer AFAIK |
| 01:17.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 866] by debhelper |
| 01:17.16 | *** join/#debian sansen (~san@190.245.97.224) |
| 01:17.27 | ChefMans | is a directory....let me guess.. add CD |
| 01:17.34 | Titan8990 | hokapoka: from another machine you can do: tasksel --task-packages <task> |
| 01:17.36 | *** join/#debian LittleDedPenguin (~joe@adsl-4-108-159.cae.bellsouth.net) |
| 01:17.39 | hokapoka | Oh, I can't see a way back, there's only contine. |
| 01:17.44 | *** join/#debian NoCode (~NoCode@unaffiliated/nocode) |
| 01:17.46 | hokapoka | Arh, that'll do the trick. |
| 01:18.19 | Titan8990 | ChefMans: oh, I read that message wrong, it proably failed to find the path /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ |
| 01:18.27 | Titan8990 | ChefMans: or you typoed it |
| 01:18.48 | *** join/#debian QnMaster1 (~63905808@gateway/web/freenode/x-ufqdpepdhgueptwr) |
| 01:18.57 | ChefMans | i did type it wrong..then fixed it... now i type it and it does...nothing really |
| 01:19.14 | baffled | Wyzard: that did it they are back. So I should also change the devices=tag in the array line to simply be /dev/sdd1,/dev/sde1 as well? |
| 01:19.25 | Titan8990 | ChefMans: if it returns no output, that means it didn't find anything |
| 01:19.31 | Wyzard | baffled: I'd change it to "DEVICE partitions" |
| 01:19.45 | Wyzard | baffled: No need to explicitly specify devices unless you have something weird that's not in /proc/partitions |
| 01:20.22 | baffled | Will it be able to tell the difference between this array and my internal array? |
| 01:20.23 | *** join/#debian djace (~djace@unaffiliated/djace) |
| 01:21.35 | ChefMans | abrotman so there we go..that find returns nothing |
| 01:22.02 | adb | ChefMans, cat /boot/config-2.6.32-trunk-amd64 | grep RT3090 |
| 01:22.07 | abrotman | ChefMans: well, that's no fun |
| 01:22.15 | *** join/#debian zink (~zink@pc-121-227-100-190.cm.vtr.net) |
| 01:22.30 | *** part/#debian chops1 (~amoise@c-98-216-10-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 01:22.37 | *** part/#debian QnMaster1 (~63905808@gateway/web/freenode/x-ufqdpepdhgueptwr) |
| 01:22.39 | Bohemian | how do i turn on tab complete in lenny? |
| 01:23.02 | *** join/#debian qnmaster (~qnmaster@99.144.88.8) |
| 01:23.06 | *** join/#debian Fukuda (~Fukuda@chello089076138179.chello.pl) |
| 01:23.43 | abrotman | tab complete of what? it's on by default |
| 01:23.46 | ChefMans | adb Nothing |
| 01:24.29 | *** join/#debian Bohemian (~Bohemian@32.167.139.188) |
| 01:24.59 | *** join/#debian Bohemian_ (~Bohemian@174-152-52-158.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 01:25.42 | abrotman | ChefMans: you may need to use ndiswrapper temporarily |
| 01:27.07 | ChefMans | abrotman, untill they get some drivers put in? |
| 01:27.21 | abrotman | ChefMans: right .. |
| 01:27.34 | adb | abrotman, maybe ChefMans has double boot |
| 01:27.45 | *** part/#debian mns (~mns@c-76-119-251-7.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 01:27.46 | abrotman | ChefMans: alternately .. you could manually get/install the kernel from unstable |
| 01:28.01 | adb | b/c -2.6.32-3 has it |
| 01:28.06 | abrotman | ChefMans: your uname -r is 2.6.32-trunk-amd64 ? |
| 01:28.39 | ChefMans | ya |
| 01:29.04 | abrotman | http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-image-2.6.32-3-amd64_2.6.32-9_amd64.deb |
| 01:29.24 | *** join/#debian ephcon (~ephcon@ppp-71-139-8-94.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 01:29.41 | ChefMans | crap... i should know how to get that..... |
| 01:29.47 | ChefMans | I hate being so nub |
| 01:30.10 | abrotman | ChefMans: wget http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-image-2.6.32-3-amd64_2.6.32-9_amd64.deb |
| 01:30.27 | abrotman | ChefMans: probably 'cd /tmp/' first .. |
| 01:30.28 | *** join/#debian mns (~mns@c-76-119-251-7.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 01:30.48 | abrotman | ChefMans: then after it downloads 'dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.32-3-amd64_2.6.32-9_amd64.deb' |
| 01:31.07 | *** join/#debian jzacsh (~jzacsh@64.134.41.83) |
| 01:31.52 | *** join/#debian jelly (~jelly@lan.iskon.hr) |
| 01:33.12 | Bohemian | is gcc installed by default in debian? |
| 01:33.24 | Bohemian | because i tried to configure && make and it didn't find the gcc compiler |
| 01:33.42 | adb | !b-e |
| 01:33.43 | dpkg | it has been said that build-essential is a package designed to help you create executables and build Debian packages. If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables or can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to "aptitude install build-essential". If you don't plan to compile things, you don't need this package. Ask me about <qotd49>. |
| 01:34.08 | Bohemian | thank you very much |
| 01:34.13 | adb | yw |
| 01:34.15 | Bohemian | what is the difference between apt-get and aptitude? |
| 01:34.36 | adb | !why aptitude |
| 01:34.36 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). |
| 01:34.59 | *** join/#debian z3rograv1ty (~mark@119.92.122.200) |
| 01:35.36 | *** join/#debian funbeans (~funbeans@c-98-245-44-11.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 01:35.50 | Bohemian | can you only compile one thing at a time? |
| 01:36.00 | Bohemian | any downsides to using aptitude over apt-get? |
| 01:36.05 | funbeans | question for network gurus: on a full duplex 1000mbit ethernet port is it possible to serve 1000mbit from the server WHILE downloading 1000mbit at the same time? |
| 01:36.19 | z3rograv1ty | http://pastebin.com/HdXiRbaj <-- any ideas? |
| 01:36.20 | *** join/#debian MrFahrenheit (~RageOfTho@users-55-86.vinet.ba) |
| 01:36.31 | *** join/#debian yure (~yure@93-103-5-169.static.t-2.net) |
| 01:36.35 | ChefMans | abrotman DLed it..did dpkg |
| 01:36.47 | *** join/#debian d0pe (~sativa@cpe-65-186-88-217.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 01:36.49 | d0pe | http://www.ihatenikki.com/?mylink=36e1c806f3833359 |
| 01:36.51 | z3rograv1ty | debian:~# echo $PATH /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin |
| 01:37.03 | abrotman | ChefMans: you'll have to reboot |
| 01:37.53 | *** join/#debian gamer (~ubuntu@c-71-234-165-17.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) |
| 01:38.13 | ChefMans | abrotman Now i gave -3-amd64 and the old Trunk one |
| 01:38.18 | ChefMans | use -3-? |
| 01:38.19 | Bohemian | i'm trying to aptitude build-essential and it gives me E: could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lockk -open (11 resource temporarily unavailable) is another proc using it? |
| 01:38.27 | Bohemian | is that because i am using apt-get in another terminal window? |
| 01:38.32 | *** join/#debian ephcon (~ephcon@ppp-71-139-8-94.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 01:38.35 | gamer | if you install debian with the alternate install CD and choose total disk encryption, does it erase (or at least fill with 0's) all the data on the HDD? |
| 01:39.09 | z3rograv1ty | Bohemian: yes |
| 01:39.11 | baffled | Wyzard: is that uuid= entry in your array line the uuid of the assembled drive array? |
| 01:39.18 | Wyzard | yes |
| 01:39.46 | gamer | Wyzard: who? |
| 01:39.50 | Bohemian | okay, thanks |
| 01:39.56 | gamer | nm |
| 01:40.08 | Wyzard | gamer: Sorry, I was responding to baffled |
| 01:40.13 | baffled | Wyzard: will devices partitions be able to tell the difference between my two arrays? |
| 01:40.14 | gamer | no problem |
| 01:40.44 | Wyzard | baffled: Yes, each partition that's part of a RAID array contains a superblock that says which array it's part of |
| 01:41.13 | Wyzard | baffled: Run "mdadm --examine" on one of your RAID partitions to see what info it contains |
| 01:41.20 | Bohemian | is there any way to compile two things at the same time in debian? |
| 01:41.28 | abrotman | ChefMans: do you have wifi now? does 'dmesg' show anything useful about it ? |
| 01:41.43 | *** join/#debian rainofkayos (~rainofkay@cpe-66-65-51-242.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 01:42.14 | Wyzard | baffled: so when mdadm scans all the partitions, it knows which one should be assembled into which array |
| 01:42.46 | *** join/#debian TheRea1 (~TheRea1@76.73.16.26) |
| 01:43.36 | ChefMans | abrotman one sec |
| 01:45.47 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: whats stopping you? |
| 01:45.59 | Bohemian | getting an error |
| 01:46.02 | Bohemian | won't let me compile |
| 01:46.04 | ChefMans | abrotman I do not seem to have wireless... ifconfig shows no IP |
| 01:46.10 | Titan8990 | !error |
| 01:46.10 | dpkg | user error at console, abort, retry, fail? see also <don't work> |
| 01:46.28 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: more information... like pastebinning the error |
| 01:46.45 | *** join/#debian gauge (~gauge@c-24-218-40-127.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 01:46.58 | abrotman | ChefMans: that doens't mean anything .. |
| 01:47.11 | abrotman | ChefMans: dmesg | grep -i rta |
| 01:47.47 | ChefMans | abrotman Nothing |
| 01:47.52 | Wyzard | baffled: I also have this line: ARRAY /dev/md1 name=swap |
| 01:48.01 | abrotman | ChefMans: sorry .. grep -i rt |
| 01:48.01 | Bohemian | Titan8990: one second |
| 01:48.05 | Bohemian | net on greyhound is super slow |
| 01:48.11 | Wyzard | baffled: (That's an array with a v1.x superblock, so names work sensibly) |
| 01:48.53 | ChefMans | abrotman and what am i looking for when it shows the list |
| 01:48.57 | jhutchins_lt | Bohemian: Ok, "on greyhound" is interesting. |
| 01:49.07 | baffled | Wyzard: for some reason mdadm --assemble is not building the array, but it isn't giving me any errors either. |
| 01:49.49 | Bohemian | why? |
| 01:49.50 | *** join/#debian okamura_ (~okamura@mfac.st.wakwak.ne.jp) |
| 01:49.50 | jhutchins_lt | Bohemian: Two shells, run a compile process in each, shouldn't be any problem up to the capacity of the hardware. |
| 01:49.50 | abrotman | ChefMans: stuff about your wifi card |
| 01:49.50 | funbeans | question for network gurus: on a full duplex 1000mbit ethernet port is it possible to serve 1000mbit from the server WHILE downloading 1000mbit at the same time? |
| 01:49.50 | Bohemian | Titan8990 pastebin.com/gA93Ft2b |
| 01:49.50 | Titan8990 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:49.56 | jhutchins_lt | Bohemian: Traditional mainframes can have a large percentage of users running software compiles, and that's what linux is structured for. |
| 01:50.09 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: what we have hear is a mix up of terminology |
| 01:50.11 | *** join/#debian hiroyuki_y (~yamanaka_@mfac.st.wakwak.ne.jp) |
| 01:50.51 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: when you compile something, you take source code and turn it into a binary exectuable. apt/dpkg does not do this. The packages are already in binary executable form (precompiled) and you are just installing them |
| 01:50.58 | ChefMans | abrotman: starting with rt3090? |
| 01:51.09 | *** join/#debian Sergio` (~Sergio`@unaffiliated/sergio/x-8197433) |
| 01:51.09 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: the answer to your question is no, you can have multiple instances of apt/dpkg running at the same time |
| 01:51.16 | beardy | funbeans: That is the meaning of full duplex regardless of bandwidth, yes. |
| 01:51.20 | Wyzard | baffled: What happens when you try to assemble? |
| 01:51.22 | funbeans | beardy: thanks |
| 01:51.36 | abrotman | ChefMans: maybe .. |
| 01:51.46 | baffled | Wyzard: it acts like it does it and just returns to the prompt. |
| 01:52.00 | *** join/#debian MrFahrenheit (~RageOfTho@users-55-86.vinet.ba) |
| 01:52.05 | Wyzard | and the array doesn't appear in /proc/mdstat? |
| 01:52.15 | *** join/#debian segin (~segin@unaffiliated/segin) |
| 01:52.23 | ChefMans | abrotman: only 3 lines starting with that |
| 01:53.03 | baffled | Wyzard: nope, just my md0 device no sign of md1. |
| 01:53.27 | Wyzard | baffled: What's the exact command you're running? |
| 01:53.39 | jhutchins_lt | Sometimes simple is a virtue. |
| 01:53.44 | baffled | Wyzard: mdadm--assemble /dev/md1 |
| 01:54.25 | Wyzard | baffled: OK, so you're relying on it to use mdadm.conf to find the components... what do you have for DEVICE and ARRAY in mdadm.conf now? |
| 01:54.34 | Wyzard | baffled: You might want to use the -v option btw |
| 01:55.05 | hokapoka | How can I tell if a package has been compliled with a lib that's version is >= some value? |
| 01:55.40 | baffled | Wyzard: currently I have: ARRAY /dev/md1 level=linear devices=/dev/sdd1,/dev/sde1 |
| 01:55.40 | ChefMans | abrotman: Sorry i seem like i cant even help the people trying to help me lol... |
| 01:56.05 | abrotman | ChefMans: can you paste them at http://paste.debian.net/ ? |
| 01:56.13 | Titan8990 | hokapoka: don't install binary packages not intended for your release and you will never have to worry about something like that |
| 01:56.17 | Bohemian | oh, okay, thank you Titan8990 jhutchins_lt |
| 01:56.20 | jmarsden | hokapoka: ldd /path/to/some/executable # will show you what dynamic libs an executable uses... |
| 01:56.27 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: anytime |
| 01:56.29 | Bohemian | jhutchins_lt: do you like postgresql or mysql? |
| 01:56.31 | *** join/#debian dsdasdfasfds (~f09dsfn08@189.38.174.223) |
| 01:56.36 | *** join/#debian hanke (~michael@c-24-60-237-131.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) |
| 01:56.39 | baffled | Wyzard: -v just says looking for devices for md1. |
| 01:56.48 | jhutchins_lt | mysql |
| 01:56.49 | baffled | Let me try my old command. |
| 01:56.56 | *** part/#debian hanke (~michael@c-24-60-237-131.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) |
| 01:56.57 | Titan8990 | jhutchins_lt: oracle lover! |
| 01:57.01 | Bohemian | or anybody here: what do you prefer: i used mysql but am learning postgresql as i have moved to a super large project which i think psql will be better. but i need to learn the new commands; can anyone suggest some reading? |
| 01:57.02 | jhutchins_lt | Couldn't really iterate the reasons, but it's what I've used. |
| 01:57.12 | jhutchins_lt | ... since 1995 or so, so.... |
| 01:57.16 | Wyzard | baffled: Does "mdadm --examine /dev/sdd1" and "mdadm --examine /dev/sde1" show superblock info for each, or do they say "no superblock detected"? |
| 01:57.43 | hokapoka | jmarsden: I've not installed it yet, wanted to check it out befor I do. |
| 01:57.48 | *** join/#debian Elfix (elfix@wikipedia/pdpc.21for7.elfix) |
| 01:58.13 | *** join/#debian Clecio (~Clecio@201-25-76-59.bsace705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 01:58.24 | hokapoka | Titan8990: yeah that makes sence. But it might actually have the lib used. I woudl like to check before installing it. |
| 01:58.32 | jmarsden | hokapoka: Huh? Let apt-get take care of the dependencies, this is Debian not LFS :) |
| 01:58.33 | ChefMans | abrotman I sure could if i knew how to use pastbin on linux... |
| 01:58.49 | hokapoka | Okay. |
| 01:58.54 | abrotman | ChefMans: are you in X or the console ? |
| 01:59.02 | ChefMans | console |
| 01:59.08 | abrotman | !pastebinit |
| 01:59.08 | dpkg | pastebinit is probably a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>; especially convenient if you don't have a graphical interface. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list" ; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit" |
| 01:59.36 | abrotman | ChefMans: so .. you'd 'aptitude install pastebinit' .. then `dmesg | grep -i rt | pastebinit' .. then give us the number |
| 02:01.36 | *** part/#debian funbeans (~funbeans@c-98-245-44-11.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 02:02.00 | ChefMans | abrotman hhhmmm bash: pastebinit: command no found.....hhhmm |
| 02:02.12 | streuner | so install it |
| 02:02.16 | abrotman | you have to install it first .. i said that |
| 02:02.25 | ChefMans | i did |
| 02:02.52 | ChefMans | aptitude install pastebinit |
| 02:02.57 | ChefMans | and it did its thing |
| 02:03.14 | ChefMans | WAIT |
| 02:03.17 | ChefMans | dear god |
| 02:03.23 | Titan8990 | !enter |
| 02:03.23 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 02:03.25 | streuner | ChefMans: man pastebinit |
| 02:03.35 | ChefMans | no no.... I Epic fail |
| 02:03.46 | ChefMans | Ever try getting an install when NOT on the net |
| 02:03.52 | ChefMans | cause i just did |
| 02:04.01 | *** join/#debian Bohemian_ (~Bohemian@32.167.139.188) |
| 02:04.09 | *** join/#debian CAiRO__ (~tooar@p4FC229A0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:05.03 | hokapoka | jmarsden: I have installed it and the php app that I want to use with it is complaining about the verion of xmlrpc not supported, it needs a newer version. |
| 02:05.21 | ChefMans | abrotman okay got it...but it didnt give a number just said pastebin.com |
| 02:05.30 | abrotman | ok |
| 02:05.31 | *** join/#debian chops1 (~amoise@c-98-216-10-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 02:06.19 | abrotman | except i can't find it |
| 02:06.55 | baffled | Wyzard: examining those drives individually says nothing about superblocks but it says they are both active and a lot of other data. |
| 02:06.56 | jmarsden | hokapoka: This "PHP app" is packaged for Debian? Or manually installed? |
| 02:07.15 | hokapoka | nope, it's a manual install. |
| 02:07.24 | hokapoka | well, just a bunch of php scripts. |
| 02:07.26 | ChefMans | abrotman I dont get it ether |
| 02:07.33 | Wyzard | baffled: Do they both have an "Array UUID:" line with the same UUID? |
| 02:07.54 | jmarsden | Then you need a newer version of xmlrpc... sounds ugly. Find a different PHP app :) |
| 02:08.00 | baffled | Wyzard: they both have a uuid I'll check if they are the same. |
| 02:08.04 | hokapoka | heh, great |
| 02:08.24 | Titan8990 | hokapoka: usually things like CMS systems are packaged for debian but otherwise are a straight forward untar to directory |
| 02:08.37 | Titan8990 | hokapoka: what is it exactly that you need to know if you scripts are compatible? |
| 02:09.02 | abrotman | ChefMans: try it again like "dmesg | grep -i rt | pastebinit -a ChefMans" |
| 02:09.04 | WormFood | hokapoka, you're probably better off to install any php apps manually |
| 02:09.16 | Titan8990 | hokapoka: oh, I just read up |
| 02:09.33 | hokapoka | I did the install and it's not compatable. |
| 02:09.51 | ChefMans | abrotman still no number |
| 02:10.07 | abrotman | it's okay .. i hope |
| 02:10.08 | hokapoka | There's a guide on checking out the source and building it, I guess I could try that. |
| 02:10.22 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 02:10.30 | abrotman | okay .. i don't get it .. |
| 02:10.41 | jmarsden | ChefMans: try dmesg | grep -i rt | pastebinit -b http://pastebin.ca |
| 02:10.43 | hokapoka | I'd prefer to use a package build by the guy who know what they are doing to. |
| 02:10.48 | hokapoka | *tho |
| 02:11.24 | Titan8990 | hokapoka: what app is this? |
| 02:11.35 | ChefMans | jmarsden TY |
| 02:11.43 | ChefMans | abrotman 1840668 |
| 02:11.46 | hokapoka | rtorrent |
| 02:11.47 | abrotman | ah .. there we go |
| 02:11.51 | abrotman | why didn't the pastebin.com work ? |
| 02:12.06 | ChefMans | ask jmarsden lol |
| 02:12.16 | jmarsden | abrotman: It thinought the dmsg output was spam or code or something otherwise "illegal", I've seen pastebin.com do that before/ |
| 02:12.24 | abrotman | oh .. bleh .. |
| 02:12.27 | baffled | Wyzard: their uuids are the same. I'll try placing the uuid in the array line like your file and try building again. |
| 02:12.47 | hokapoka | Titan8990: the app requires that it's built with xmlrpc-c >= 1.11 |
| 02:12.53 | Wyzard | baffled: Are you using "DEVICE partitions" now, or are you still listing those individual device names? |
| 02:13.16 | ChefMans | abrotman 1840671 is the -i rt without the rt3 |
| 02:13.17 | Titan8990 | hokapoka: use the debian package |
| 02:13.24 | baffled | I was listing the individual device names. Wyzard. |
| 02:13.41 | hokapoka | I have, it's using 1.06 |
| 02:13.43 | Wyzard | baffled: If "mdadm --assemble -v" just said "looking for devices" and nothing else, it sounds like it doesn't know about any actual devices |
| 02:13.47 | Wyzard | baffled: Change it to partitions |
| 02:13.52 | Titan8990 | judd: versions rtorrent |
| 02:13.55 | judd | rtorrent -- etch: 0.6.4-1; lenny: 0.7.9-2.2; sid: 0.8.6-1; squeeze: 0.8.6-1 |
| 02:14.21 | Titan8990 | hokapoka: whats new in version 0.8? |
| 02:14.33 | abrotman | ChefMans: and 'ifconfig -a' doesn't show a wifi device? just the wired and lo ? |
| 02:14.50 | *** join/#debian chemist (~xxx@78.33.177.154) |
| 02:14.59 | Wyzard | baffled: Listing individual devices, on either the DEVICE or ARRAY lines, just makes things break when names in /dev change |
| 02:15.01 | *** join/#debian Rapsodius (~ariel@190.55.212.114) |
| 02:15.16 | hokapoka | I've got squeeze, but it's not rtorrent that's the issue. it needs to have been built with xmlrpc-c >=1.11 |
| 02:15.23 | ChefMans | abrotman ifconfig -a shows wlan0 |
| 02:15.28 | abrotman | ChefMans: sounds good |
| 02:15.39 | Wyzard | baffled: which can happen depending on the order things are plugged in (e.g. /dev/sdd vs. /dev/sde) or when udev changes the way it names the links in /dev/disk |
| 02:15.44 | Titan8990 | hokapoka: so there is a bug in rtorrent debian package for squeeze? did you check the bts? |
| 02:15.53 | hokapoka | To use these php scripts. |
| 02:15.55 | Rapsodius | How can I init my X server ISOPRIO using gdm and schedtool? |
| 02:15.57 | ChefMans | abrotman so it should work? |
| 02:16.20 | Wyzard | baffled: Using /proc/partitions and the array UUID makes it resilient against changes, since the partitions will always be present in /proc/partitions as long as the devices are plugged in, and the array's UUID never changes |
| 02:16.40 | hokapoka | I doubt there's a "bug" it's more these scripts rely on something that's in this version of the lib that has been used. |
| 02:16.46 | *** join/#debian Bohemian (~Bohemian@32.131.111.159) |
| 02:17.02 | Bohemian | urgh, i installed lenny on a 32 bit intel system. if the dedicated server we get turns out to be 64bit, will i be able to easily reconfigure it to 64bit arch or am i SOL, i.e. am i wasting my time trying to build this server before i take it live (it's a web/email server)? |
| 02:17.13 | *** join/#debian Henrik`G (~hb@c83-249-67-192.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 02:17.39 | Wyzard | Bohemian: You can't convert a 32-bit installation into a 64-bit, but a 32-bit install will work on a 64-bit machine |
| 02:17.43 | abrotman | ChefMans: yep |
| 02:17.44 | hokapoka | Titan8990: The php scripts (ruTorrent) does work, it just throws an error complaining about the version of xmlrpc-c. |
| 02:17.55 | Bohemian | Wyzard: but i'm going to lose out on speed? |
| 02:17.56 | ChefMans | abrotman command to refresh my ip?? lol |
| 02:18.07 | *** join/#debian bibekp (~bibek@unaffiliated/bibekp) |
| 02:18.17 | abrotman | ChefMans: oh .. configure it in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:18.25 | abrotman | ChefMans: auto wlan0 |
| 02:18.43 | Bohemian | so i can't just install the services and applications (mysql, java, apache, postfix/dovecot et al) on my 32bit box and then make a new debian install and transfer it over somehow?? |
| 02:18.47 | abrotman | ChefMans: iface wlan0 inet dhcp |
| 02:18.47 | Wyzard | Bohemian: A 64-bit OS isn't faster, it's just able to address more memory |
| 02:18.55 | abrotman | ChefMans: you'll have to figure out the bits for your encrpytion |
| 02:19.10 | Wyzard | Bohemian: Whether it makes a practical difference depends on what you're using the machine for |
| 02:19.16 | hokapoka | Titan8990: This is the error message : rTorrent is compiled with incorrect version of xmlrpc-c library, without i8 support. Version must be >= 1.11. Some functionality will be unavailable. |
| 02:19.40 | Bohemian | Wyzard: it's a web/email server... |
| 02:19.55 | Wyzard | Bohemian: You could set up the 32-bit system and configure it, then set up a 64-bit system later and copy all your customized config files over |
| 02:20.04 | Bohemian | right |
| 02:20.05 | Bohemian | that's what i thought |
| 02:20.09 | Bohemian | that shouldn't be so hard, right? |
| 02:20.14 | baffled | Wyzard: I got further with those changes but there still appears to be problems: |
| 02:20.15 | Wyzard | Bohemian: but there's no automatic "make this system work just like that one, except 64-bit instead of 32" |
| 02:20.17 | Bohemian | just make sure not to forget *every* config file? |
| 02:20.18 | ChefMans | abrotman let me just...google that hahaha |
| 02:20.23 | baffled | mdadm: /dev/sde1 is identified as a member of /dev/md1, slot 1. |
| 02:20.23 | baffled | mdadm: /dev/sdd1 is identified as a member of /dev/md1, slot 0. |
| 02:20.24 | baffled | mdadm: added /dev/sdd1 to /dev/md1 as 0 |
| 02:20.24 | baffled | mdadm: added /dev/sde1 to /dev/md1 as 1 |
| 02:20.24 | baffled | mdadm: /dev/md1 assembled from 1 drive - not enough to start the array. |
| 02:20.24 | *** kick/#debian [baffled!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use the paster bot or #flood) |
| 02:20.33 | Wyzard | Bohemian: Well, there's no need to copy files that you haven't customized |
| 02:20.38 | Rapsodius | hmmm... reformulating: gdm has on its settings a way of passing parameters directly to the X server, but simply prepending schedtool -I -e to it causes an error, since gdm seems to add some extra parameters that break the thing, so would be nice to prepend it as is on the textbox |
| 02:20.39 | *** join/#debian baffled (~kirk@206-248-184-127.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 02:20.50 | baffled | Woops, I fucked up. |
| 02:21.13 | baffled | Wyzard: I'm not sure how muc of that came through. |
| 02:21.27 | Wyzard | baffled: I saw up through "/dev/md1 assembled from 1 drive - not enough to start the array." |
| 02:21.46 | baffled | Okay, that was the end of it Wyzard. |
| 02:21.47 | Wyzard | which looks wrong since it said it added two drives, but at any rate, the array should show up in /proc/mdstat now, so you can see its current status |
| 02:22.13 | p3rror | hello |
| 02:22.22 | p3rror | is there any preview function in galde ? |
| 02:22.23 | Bohemian | Wyzard: right, of course. thank you very much! |
| 02:22.51 | SerajewelKS | for the purposes of iptables rules (specifically the FORWARD chain) does traffic coming in on a bridged interface match -i for that specific interface, or for the bridge interface, or both? |
| 02:23.09 | *** join/#debian kj4 (~kj4kjl@adsl-235-7-200.clt.bellsouth.net) |
| 02:23.24 | baffled | Wyzard: it is there now and looks okay but it is marked inactive. |
| 02:23.52 | SerajewelKS | or, to ask another way, using iptables can i use different rules matching the various interfaces in a bridge, or can i only match on the entire bridge? |
| 02:24.46 | ChefMans | abrotman: Well this sucks... I edited the default to wlan0 ..saved..and rebooted and stilll no ip |
| 02:24.49 | Bohemian | what package installs mkdir and similiar needed commands? |
| 02:25.20 | Wyzard | baffled: Could you show me the mdstat entry? |
| 02:25.39 | baffled | Wyzard: now fsck -p complains about not having a proper super block and wants me to try an alternate superblock. |
| 02:25.58 | *** join/#debian lantizia (~lantizia@93-97-23-110.zone5.bethere.co.uk) |
| 02:26.02 | Wyzard | baffled: You can't run fsck on an inactive array |
| 02:26.11 | abrotman | ChefMans: do you have wifi encryption ? |
| 02:26.15 | adb | SerajewelKS, try #networking |
| 02:26.24 | *** join/#debian e1z0_ (~null@84.32.74.241) |
| 02:26.25 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: coreutils |
| 02:26.26 | abrotman | uhm .. why not #netfilter ? |
| 02:26.28 | baffled | Wyzard: md1 : inactive sde1[1](S) sdd1[0](S) 1953519872 blocks |
| 02:26.38 | ChefMans | abrotman oo ya..there is |
| 02:26.38 | baffled | Wyzard: that would explain it then. |
| 02:26.44 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: i think it can only do the bridge |
| 02:26.48 | lantizia | I think stable server... I think redhat/suse/debian... suse - yucky novell... debian - ace, using it currently... redhat - costs money, look to centos |
| 02:26.49 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: ask #netfilter |
| 02:26.58 | lantizia | centos tho... as big as a community as debian? |
| 02:27.08 | abrotman | ChefMans: that does matter .. WEP? WPA ? |
| 02:27.29 | Wyzard | baffled: It thinks they're spares rather than the array's "real" drives... possibly related to having changed the device names from the weird ones you were using before, though I'm not sure |
| 02:27.37 | *** join/#debian Farmer__ (~Knecht_Ro@p50802140.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:27.40 | ChefMans | abrotman Wep |
| 02:28.22 | abrotman | ChefMans: so you'd need the lines wireless-essid and wireless-key |
| 02:28.35 | Wyzard | baffled: Run "mdadm --detail /dev/md1" and see what the table of devices at the end looks like |
| 02:28.48 | *** join/#debian DulcePericulum (~DulcePeri@206-248-165-220.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 02:29.14 | ChefMans | abrotman: Under iface lo inet loopback.... or abive? |
| 02:29.28 | ChefMans | abrotman or does it matter lol |
| 02:29.38 | *** join/#debian bentlux (~bentlux@pc-101-168-100-190.cm.vtr.net) |
| 02:29.43 | abrotman | ChefMans: under the wlan0 stanza |
| 02:29.57 | *** join/#debian Chaos`Eternal (~chaos@116.231.54.171) |
| 02:30.24 | abrotman | ChefMans: and those are separate lines .. and you put them in like "wireless-essid <yourSSIDhere>" and "wireless-key <whateverthatbignastykeyis>" |
| 02:30.27 | abrotman | without the <> |
| 02:31.31 | *** join/#debian z3rograv1ty (~mark@119.92.122.200) |
| 02:31.33 | *** join/#debian lipsin (~lipsin@unaffiliated/lipsin) |
| 02:31.46 | z3rograv1ty | dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found on PATH. |
| 02:31.46 | dpkg | z3rograv1ty: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 02:31.46 | z3rograv1ty | NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. |
| 02:31.54 | z3rograv1ty | any ideas? |
| 02:32.44 | Rapsodius | ahahahahha that was funny |
| 02:32.49 | *** join/#debian azteech (~stevan@s59-254-68-64.trico.az.wi-power.com) |
| 02:32.57 | Rapsodius | I heard dpkg talking |
| 02:33.08 | ChefMans | abrotman n/m their isnt one...because my g/f vista lappy was having issues connecting with one |
| 02:33.14 | Wyzard | baffled: I've seen mdadm get into that state before after weird changes, not recognizing that the drives are already part of the array and adding them as spares instead |
| 02:33.20 | ChefMans | Free Wifi at my house!! |
| 02:33.22 | ChefMans | lol |
| 02:33.30 | z3rograv1ty | debian:/home/mark# echo $PATH |
| 02:33.30 | z3rograv1ty | /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin |
| 02:33.37 | z3rograv1ty | nothing wrong there |
| 02:33.54 | z3rograv1ty | but dpkg is reporting dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found on PATH. |
| 02:34.08 | Wyzard | baffled: I'm not sure how to get it to recognize them correctly though; if the array doesn't contain important data, I'd just recreate it at this point |
| 02:35.45 | ChefMans | abrotman: great reboot and it stilll doesnt work....ggrr |
| 02:36.02 | Wyzard | baffled: --assemble --force might work |
| 02:36.52 | abrotman | ChefMans: dhclient wlan0 |
| 02:37.51 | baffled | Wyzard: I realized that half of the old device line was not commented out because it wrapped but even after commenting it out and --stop/--assemble again it is still inactive and those are marked as (S) which I suspect means spares. |
| 02:38.03 | Wyzard | baffled: Yes, it means spares |
| 02:38.20 | Wyzard | baffled: mdadm isn't recognizing that those partitions are already part of the array |
| 02:38.40 | baffled | Wyzard: unfortunately the array is about 1.5tB full so I'd like to not have to start over if I can help it. |
| 02:38.41 | Wyzard | baffled: Could you pastebin the output of "mdadm --detail /dev/md1"? |
| 02:38.47 | ChefMans | abrotman network is down |
| 02:39.37 | *** join/#debian Henrik`G (~hb@c83-249-67-192.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 02:39.49 | baffled | Currently --detail is showing only: mdadm: md device /dev/md1 does not appear to be active. Wyzard. |
| 02:40.14 | Wyzard | Oh, I guess it doesn't work on inactive arrays |
| 02:40.31 | Wyzard | How about "mdadm --examine /dev/sdd1"? |
| 02:40.38 | abrotman | ChefMans: ifup wlan0 |
| 02:40.59 | *** join/#debian Sebby (~sebby@unaffiliated/sebby) |
| 02:41.04 | *** join/#debian msaizar (~martin@r190-135-163-226.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 02:41.38 | ChefMans | abrotman ifup: couldnt read interfaces file "etc/network/interfaces" |
| 02:42.20 | baffled | Wyzard: is pastebin a webpage? I haven't used it for many years. |
| 02:42.34 | Wyzard | !pastebin |
| 02:42.34 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>. |
| 02:42.35 | abrotman | ChefMans: what ? doesn't hte file exist ? |
| 02:43.12 | ChefMans | i can pull up /etc/network.interfaces in nano... I dont know why it cant find it |
| 02:43.39 | *** join/#debian prince_jammys (~mischa@pool-151-202-82-99.ny325.east.verizon.net) |
| 02:43.39 | abrotman | ChefMans: ls -l /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:44.40 | ChefMans | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 316 2010-03-14 19:39 /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:45.09 | Rapsodius | :q! |
| 02:45.19 | Rapsodius | hehe too much vim |
| 02:46.05 | abrotman | ChefMans: seems fine to me |
| 02:46.32 | abrotman | ChefMans: can you put the contents in a pastebin ? |
| 02:46.37 | ChefMans | abrotman I know right....but god forbid linux work for me...this is the second machine i have had issues with |
| 02:46.52 | abrotman | ChefMans: we love you, even if the kernel doesn't! |
| 02:47.33 | *** join/#debian cafuego (~cafuego@luv/committee/cafuego) |
| 02:47.47 | *** join/#debian pikudoz (~chatzilla@190.43.45.141) |
| 02:49.15 | ChefMans | abrotman ls -l /etc/network/interfaces | pastebinit - http://patebin.ca??? |
| 02:49.22 | Wyzard | baffled: I *think* I may have found a way to get your array into a working state |
| 02:49.44 | abrotman | ChefMans: not quite .. |
| 02:49.49 | baffled | Wyzard: I belive the url is http://paste.debian.net/64306 |
| 02:49.59 | abrotman | ChefMans: cat /etc/network/interfaces | pastebinit -b http://pastebin.ca/ |
| 02:51.09 | ChefMans | abrotman gives tons of error codes when i do that |
| 02:51.31 | ChefMans | HAHAHa |
| 02:51.33 | ChefMans | n/m |
| 02:51.37 | *** join/#debian project2501b (~project25@86.51.114.108) |
| 02:51.53 | ChefMans | *hits head* Plug in the freaking cat5 cable |
| 02:52.10 | *** join/#debian KamusHadenes (~kamushade@hyadesinc/lord/hadenes/kamushadenes) |
| 02:53.12 | ChefMans | I just love working on network issues..then trying to send something to the net...without a freaking internet connection |
| 02:53.18 | ChefMans | and then wondering why i get errors |
| 02:53.39 | Wyzard | baffled: hmm... that says "active", but it might just be leftover from what was last written there when the array formerly was active |
| 02:53.47 | baffled | ChefMans: if you perfect it let us all know! 'grin' |
| 02:54.02 | Wyzard | baffled: Does mdstat still say both your drives are spares? |
| 02:54.15 | ChefMans | abrotman But now i cant get a IP with my cable pluged in..... |
| 02:54.40 | abrotman | ChefMans: restart the machine .. no telling what you've done now |
| 02:54.50 | baffled | Wyzard: yes. |
| 02:55.18 | ChefMans | abrotman I pluged in the cable and rebooted..... nothing |
| 02:55.53 | abrotman | ChefMans: you sure hte wifi isn't working ? |
| 02:55.58 | Wyzard | baffled: I've been reading http://robbat2.livejournal.com/231207.html and http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/md.txt and I think I know how to get your array running, but it's something I haven't done before and there's a risk of corrupting your data if it's done wrong |
| 02:56.11 | abrotman | ChefMans: and unfortunately, i am heading to bed in a few minutes |
| 02:56.44 | ChefMans | abrotman I understand..my g/f wants help with dinner as well |
| 02:57.01 | abrotman | ChefMans: tell her you don't want any? |
| 02:57.04 | baffled | Well, I'm not sure what else to do... Wyzard . |
| 02:57.27 | ChefMans | abrotman I am starving.... ya on boot it says it can not read the interfaces file |
| 02:57.41 | abrotman | ChefMans: weird .. stick around here .. i'm sure someone will help you |
| 02:57.48 | *** join/#debian ryan`c (~ryan@c-98-207-154-10.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 02:58.08 | ChefMans | abrotman Will do... Thank you for all the help |
| 02:58.18 | Wyzard | baffled: cd /sys/block/md1/md |
| 02:58.31 | Wyzard | baffled: "cat array_state" and make sure it says "inactive" |
| 02:59.38 | baffled | it does. |
| 02:59.49 | baffled | Wyzard: it does, sorry about that. |
| 02:59.55 | *** join/#debian iViLe (~bob@c114-76-23-136.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 03:00.09 | Wyzard | baffled: There should be two subdirectories in there, named "dev-sdd1" and "dev-sde1" |
| 03:00.20 | Wyzard | Each contains a file called "state"... cat those files and check that they both say "spare" |
| 03:01.29 | baffled | Wyzard: they both say spare. |
| 03:02.14 | Wyzard | There should also be files in those directories called "slot"... what are the values of dev-sdd1/slot and dev-sde1/slot? |
| 03:02.26 | Wyzard | (I expect they'll be either 0 and 1 respectively, or 2 and 3, but I'm not sure which) |
| 03:02.49 | *** join/#debian joshdavey (~joshdavey@141.117.173.229) |
| 03:02.59 | baffled | Wyzard: they both say none. |
| 03:03.07 | Wyzard | ok |
| 03:03.41 | *** part/#debian joshdavey (~joshdavey@141.117.173.229) |
| 03:03.46 | Wyzard | First, as a precaution, mdadm --readonly /dev/md1 |
| 03:03.56 | *** join/#debian slb_ (~nada@ool-4354b092.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 03:04.02 | *** join/#debian remote (~remote@unaffiliated/remote) |
| 03:04.08 | slb_ | whats the best method of setting up a vpn if i intend to use it primarily with windows |
| 03:04.19 | *** part/#debian ChefMans (~ChefManco@cpe-76-173-128-179.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 03:04.35 | Wyzard | Then, echo 0 > dev-sdd1/slot |
| 03:05.05 | Wyzard | If that succeeds, check mdstat -- is sdd1 no longer marked as a spare? |
| 03:05.17 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe2 (~havoc@SE400.PPPoE-5804.sa.bih.net.ba) |
| 03:05.45 | *** join/#debian streuner_ (foobar@p5DD39632.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 03:06.14 | *** join/#debian myu2 (~myu2@161.90.128.210.bf.2iij.net) |
| 03:06.48 | Wyzard | (As rationale, we're putting sdd1 in slot 0 because the --examine output that you pasted earlier says that's where it belongs, with the 0 in the RaidDevice column of the "this" line in the table at the end) |
| 03:06.56 | *** join/#debian macrobat (~fuzzyglee@h-150-127.A163.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 03:07.46 | baffled | Wyzard: this is too weird, i got: bash: echo: write error: No space left on device |
| 03:08.06 | *** join/#debian rettub (~amar@unaffiliated/rettub) |
| 03:08.41 | Wyzard | hmm, then it's apparently not writable for an assembled array like that page said it is |
| 03:09.01 | Bohemian | how do i install postgresql 8.4.2. in lenny? |
| 03:09.09 | slb_ | use aptitude |
| 03:09.15 | Wyzard | As for "no space left on device", remember that /proc is a virtual filesystem that doesn't correspond to anything on disk, so it works a little differently |
| 03:09.16 | slb_ | oh wait thats latest |
| 03:09.18 | *** join/#debian linuxguy (~robocop@5ad5ef10.bb.sky.com) |
| 03:09.25 | slb_ | nm |
| 03:09.37 | *** join/#debian tue (tue@85.120.93.50) |
| 03:09.37 | baffled | That's why I thought it odd. |
| 03:09.46 | *** join/#debian TelTek (~overlord@cpe-76-188-232-92.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 03:10.01 | baffled | Usually you get apermission denied error. Wyzard |
| 03:10.05 | Bohemian | slb_: it says something about backports? |
| 03:10.08 | Wyzard | true |
| 03:10.08 | Bohemian | i don't know what that is... |
| 03:10.09 | Sebby | annyone who knows how to bypass this error on debian ./hlds_run: line 321: 7879 Illegal instruction $HL_CMD (Counter Strike) |
| 03:10.18 | linuxguy | .msg nickserv identify robocop |
| 03:10.31 | Wyzard | Let's see if I can figure out how to assemble the array using sysfs, so that we can specify those slot numbers |
| 03:11.09 | TelTek | Is it possible to make a virtualbox image of an existing operating system? |
| 03:11.31 | Wyzard | baffled: What does /sys/block/md1/md/raid_disks say? |
| 03:11.40 | baffled | Wyzard: this is interesting, I can touch the file. |
| 03:11.44 | Wyzard | Does it say 2 or is it blank? |
| 03:12.37 | linuxguy | spent all day downloading squeeze DVD, looks like a huge improvement over lenny and i can see why I was told to usse a net install, updates dont work, kept asking fro dvd and then just "hanging in on there doin nuffin" |
| 03:13.09 | *** join/#debian Rothgar (~admin@ppp201-15.static.internode.on.net) |
| 03:13.18 | Titan8990 | !testing |
| 03:13.18 | dpkg | rumour has it, testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <squeeze>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <lenny->squeeze> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging to use testing and should be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
| 03:13.26 | baffled | Wyzard: it is blank. |
| 03:13.46 | baffled | wyz or at least its empty. |
| 03:14.19 | baffled | Woops, forgot to tab Wyzard or at least it's empty. |
| 03:14.35 | votality | linuxguy: huge improvement how |
| 03:14.36 | Wyzard | baffled: OK, that makes sense in light of the 0 and 1 in "sde1[1](S) sdd1[0](S)" in your mdstat |
| 03:15.24 | Wyzard | It's not that it didn't know those drives should be in slots 0 and 1, it just doesn't know that the drives in slots 0 and 1 form the array's active set of drives because it doesn't know how many drives there should be |
| 03:15.38 | Wyzard | Writing 2 to that file *might* help, but let's try this a safer way |
| 03:15.45 | Wyzard | mdadm --stop /dev/md1 |
| 03:15.58 | Wyzard | Edit your mdadm.conf and add "num-devices=2" to the ARRAY line for md1 |
| 03:16.08 | Wyzard | then mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 again |
| 03:17.31 | Wyzard | (This is a hypothesis and it might not actually work, but at least it shouldn't hurt anything) |
| 03:17.47 | *** join/#debian renga (~renga@201.196.250.138) |
| 03:18.52 | *** join/#debian n-iCe (nice@unaffiliated/nice/x-729832) |
| 03:18.56 | n-iCe | 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02) -> what does Golan means? |
| 03:19.27 | Wyzard | probably just the codename for that particular model |
| 03:19.37 | *** join/#debian dbbolton (~daniel@c-67-163-171-209.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 03:19.49 | baffled | Wyzard: it gave me the same complaint as last time we assembled it. |
| 03:19.58 | *** join/#debian eledesmar (~eledesmar@190.166.100.128) |
| 03:20.22 | Wyzard | hmm |
| 03:20.31 | baffled | Wyzard: it's just five lines so I'll try to paste it I may get the boot again. |
| 03:20.35 | Wyzard | Are you able to echo 2 into /sys/block/md1/md/raid_disks? |
| 03:20.36 | *** join/#debian hideo (~irc@c-98-252-172-73.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 03:20.44 | Wyzard | No, use the pastebin |
| 03:21.29 | *** join/#debian click170 (~click170@96.49.100.223) |
| 03:22.07 | *** join/#debian Selveste1___ (~Selveste1@88.83.86.20.static.dong.customer.smilecontent.dk) |
| 03:22.32 | *** part/#debian z3rograv1ty (~mark@119.92.122.200) |
| 03:24.38 | baffled | Wyzard: It also doesn't like the other array being there or at least it complains about it. here is the bottom few lines. http://paste.debian.net/64308 |
| 03:25.02 | baffled | Wyzard: I haven't tried the echo 2 yet I'll do that now. |
| 03:26.50 | baffled | Wyzard: okay I placed 2 in raid_disks |
| 03:29.05 | baffled | Wyzard: I wonder if the entry for md0 could be screwing it up. It has the device line and array line like the original md1 had. |
| 03:29.18 | Wyzard | What do you mean by that? |
| 03:29.31 | *** part/#debian click170 (~click170@96.49.100.223) |
| 03:29.33 | baffled | I can pastebin it for grins. |
| 03:29.38 | *** join/#debian kblessinggr (~kblessing@75-94-230-191.gar.clearwire-wmx.net) |
| 03:29.49 | Wyzard | Oh, you mean listing individual devices |
| 03:30.00 | Wyzard | That shouldn't cause problems, but sure, do pastebin it |
| 03:30.18 | kblessinggr | are there any easy to setup irc deamons, I'm having to install one for a client, and well... they're not exactly guru themselves (and they're not going to be paying for administration afterwards) |
| 03:30.19 | baffled | Wyzard: right. |
| 03:30.22 | hideo | hmm whatever changes just made in xserver-xorg and xorg made them not parse through ~/.xsession for me |
| 03:31.32 | dbbolton | what is meant by "n" for a pci wireless adapter? |
| 03:31.42 | votality | are you joking |
| 03:32.02 | votality | dont you mean what does n mean for any wireless adapter |
| 03:32.10 | Wyzard | baffled: OK, I've managed to get an array of mine into a similar inactive state and then make it active via sysfs stuff |
| 03:32.34 | Wyzard | baffled: Now that you've set the number of raid devices, see if you can echo 0 into dev-sdd1/slot and 1 into dev-sde1/slot |
| 03:32.38 | dbbolton | votality: no, i am just being specific. |
| 03:32.48 | votality | why dont you google 802.11n and draftn |
| 03:33.04 | *** part/#debian kblessinggr (~kblessing@75-94-230-191.gar.clearwire-wmx.net) |
| 03:33.30 | dbbolton | so i take it that it is a mode then |
| 03:33.32 | baffled | Wyzard: Okay I'll try that. Here's the mdadm.conf http://paste.debian.net/64309 |
| 03:34.44 | baffled | Wyzard: took them just fine this time. |
| 03:34.58 | votality | just google it |
| 03:35.12 | *** join/#debian gbear14275 (~gbear1427@static-74-106-4-18.syrcny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 03:35.25 | gbear14275 | anyone seen this before? Should I be worried? http://paste.ubuntu.com/395427/ |
| 03:35.31 | baffled | Wyzard: they are not marked as spare anymore in md_stat. |
| 03:35.48 | *** join/#debian Rusty1 (~Rusty1@cpe-72-226-104-57.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 03:35.59 | Wyzard | baffled: I think the reason it said "no space left on device" earlier (rather than "permission denied") was because it's not that you don't have permission, it's that you can't put things in the first and second slots of an array that has zero slots |
| 03:36.10 | Wyzard | baffled: so "no space" makes sense in that context |
| 03:36.29 | Wyzard | baffled: OK, good, that's progress |
| 03:36.37 | baffled | Wyzard: Right. the array is still marked inactive though. |
| 03:36.40 | Wyzard | There are a few more parameters I had to set before I could start my array |
| 03:37.04 | Wyzard | If you look at the "level" file, you should see that it's blank |
| 03:37.04 | baffled | Wyzard: carry-on up the disk drive. |
| 03:37.25 | baffled | Wyzard: yes. |
| 03:37.36 | Wyzard | You need to echo the RAID level there, which in your case is "linear" |
| 03:38.04 | baffled | Wyzard: done. |
| 03:38.10 | chops1 | gbear14275: Depends -- do you have any data on that drive you care about? :-) |
| 03:38.34 | Wyzard | baffled: and you'll find that chunk_size is 0 |
| 03:38.37 | gbear14275 | chops1: lol, yes I do :) |
| 03:38.38 | *** join/#debian daya (~daya@202.63.242.211) |
| 03:38.48 | baffled | Wyzard: tis. |
| 03:38.58 | chops1 | gbear14275: I would worry then... what does fdisk say about the drive? |
| 03:39.01 | chops1 | gbear14275: Also, do you have backups? |
| 03:39.31 | Wyzard | baffled: Actually, I was going to say you need to set that, but for append mode, it's not applicable |
| 03:39.54 | gbear14275 | chops1: yeah I have backups of my most critical stuff... although a majority is not backed up (although also not critical)... as far as fdisk... not sure how to use it |
| 03:39.59 | Wyzard | baffled: See if you can "echo readonly > array_state" |
| 03:40.05 | *** join/#debian daya (~daya@202.63.242.211) |
| 03:41.07 | chops1 | gbear14275: Type 'fdisk /dev/sda', then enter the command "p" at the fdisk prompt, which will print the partition information. Also, as a general rule, don't do things related to fdisk or partitioning just because people on IRC tell you to do them -- read the man pages and make sure you understand what the commands you're typing are intended to do. |
| 03:41.08 | *** join/#debian mxyang (~michael@CPE00217092596d-CM001225d88fbc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 03:41.11 | baffled | Wyzard: yes I could and the console announced a device status change. |
| 03:41.26 | chops1 | gbear14275: Have there been any big changes recently? Partitions, backups, hardware changes? |
| 03:41.47 | gbear14275 | chops1: lol, I was deleting an unused lvm partition to make room for a debian boot |
| 03:42.01 | Wyzard | baffled: I'd do an fsck at this point to make sure the array is assembled correctly, then change array_state to "clean" |
| 03:42.07 | *** part/#debian mxyang (~michael@CPE00217092596d-CM001225d88fbc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 03:43.03 | baffled | Wyzard: Here's the console messages: |
| 03:43.05 | baffled | [1572070.521920] md1: detected capacity change from 0 to 2000404348928 [1572070.523926] md1: unknown partition table |
| 03:43.07 | chops1 | gbear14275: Oops... could be bad news. Good job you have backups. What does fdisk say? |
| 03:43.26 | Wyzard | baffled: At this point, hopefully, the superblocks on sdd1 and sde1 have been updated and regular mdadm --assemble should work in the future |
| 03:43.39 | *** part/#debian linuxwizard (~linuxwiza@c-98-193-113-147.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 03:43.40 | gbear14275 | chops1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/395434/ |
| 03:43.47 | Wyzard | baffled: The "unknown partition table" is to be expected (assuming you're not using a partitioned array, which you're probably not) |
| 03:43.50 | baffled | Wyzard: that wuld be very nice. |
| 03:44.27 | Wyzard | baffled: I'd recommend removing the extraneous DEVICE stuff from your mdadm.conf and changing md0 to use a UUID, but that shouldn't be strictly necessary for md1 to work |
| 03:44.34 | chops1 | gbear14275: Hm, actually it looks like everything's in order except for the out-of-order partitions |
| 03:44.47 | chops1 | ("in order" meaning "generally okay") |
| 03:44.55 | baffled | Wyzard: I will do that once we have md1 working again. |
| 03:45.17 | chops1 | gbear14275: Oh, I get it. You deleted the LVM partitions and you haven't rebooted since then. |
| 03:45.23 | gbear14275 | chops1: I trust fdisk output more so I'll give a reboot an attempt... worst case I've got a live usb |
| 03:45.31 | chops1 | gbear14275: You should be fine -- just reboot and the kernel will pick up the new layout |
| 03:45.31 | *** join/#debian visof (~visof@41.238.232.68) |
| 03:45.37 | gbear14275 | chops1: yeah... ah ok |
| 03:45.37 | baffled | Wyzard: md_stat says md1 is active. |
| 03:45.51 | chops1 | gbear14275: Yeah, sometimes it can't reread the partition table while the disks are active for some reason. |
| 03:45.54 | gbear14275 | that something normal? lvm partitions getting nuked normally mess with partition tools? |
| 03:46.01 | Dewi | what's a good way to reconfigure kernel options for netfilter, without X? |
| 03:46.05 | Wyzard | baffled: yep, it should be usable now |
| 03:46.19 | baffled | Wyzard: I'll try an fsck -p on it. |
| 03:46.23 | gbear14275 | great news! thanks chops1! Was a little nervous after seeing the error... that makes me feel better |
| 03:46.28 | gbear14275 | be back soon I hope |
| 03:46.43 | chops1 | gbear14275: gl |
| 03:46.49 | *** join/#debian Tommy_DO (~asdf@i59F5CCAD.versanet.de) |
| 03:47.08 | Wyzard | baffled: We made it read-only as a safety net in case it's assembled wrong, but if fsck succeeds then it should be safe to use |
| 03:47.31 | gbear14275 | chops1: you got a favorite project? |
| 03:47.33 | baffled | Woops, can I echo readwrite to array_status? Or maybe I should do it with mdadm. |
| 03:47.59 | Wyzard | baffled: Set array_status to "clean" when you're ready to make it writable |
| 03:48.12 | Wyzard | baffled: After that, I'd mdadm --stop it and try mdadm --assemble again to see if it works |
| 03:48.25 | chops1 | gbear14275: In what sense? |
| 03:49.01 | gbear14275 | chops1: I decided a while back to show appreciation for IRC help by trying to donate to helpers favorite projects, I'm still a little incapable of technically helping in many cases, but I can afford to donate when I get a hand... I know its not perfect... but its something I like to do to say thanks... so got any projects that could use a hand? |
| 03:50.16 | *** join/#debian SOG (~SOG@n112118177026.netvigator.com) |
| 03:50.18 | Wyzard | baffled: Actually, I'd change the state to "active" rather than "clean" -- for a linear array it shouldn't make any difference, but if it were something like a raid5, "active" would make it resync if necessary, and "clean" wouldn't, so "active" is the better thing to remember for the future |
| 03:50.38 | chops1 | gbear14275: http://www.heifer.org/ -- computers are overrated :-) |
| 03:50.58 | chops1 | gbear14275: Or just buy a beer for a pretty lady and say it's from me |
| 03:51.20 | *** join/#debian contrains (~contrains@dsl001-161-007.stl1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 03:52.32 | *** join/#debian `deb (~relax@2002:ad22:87df:0:d81e:fe3b:7ed2:e03b) |
| 03:52.38 | baffled | Wyzard: we are exactly where we were before. I made it readwrite did fsck -p it came up clean I --stopped it and --assembled and it appears to be back to both being spare. |
| 03:52.47 | Wyzard | hmm |
| 03:52.59 | baffled | very strange. |
| 03:53.12 | Wyzard | I don't really think it'll make a difference, but I'd clean up mdadm.conf just to see if it helps |
| 03:53.28 | Wyzard | If the one you pasted is your entire mdadm.conf, it looks like you've deleted all the stuff that's in it by default |
| 03:53.35 | baffled | Wyzard: I'll give that a shot next. |
| 03:54.04 | baffled | Wyzard: that was the complete file. |
| 03:54.09 | gbear14275 | chops1: lol, does "buy a share of a water buffalo" count as both? ;) |
| 03:54.55 | Wyzard | baffled: Here's my mdadm.conf: http://paste.debian.net/64310/ |
| 03:55.08 | chops1 | gbear14275: Depends on the lady, I guess :-) |
| 03:55.32 | Wyzard | baffled: Except for the two ARRAY lines at the end, that's unmodified from the default version of the file |
| 03:55.53 | Wyzard | baffled: I'd recommend you make yours look more like that -- you're missing the CREATE, HOMEHOST, and MAILADDR lines |
| 03:56.20 | dlynes | what's the 'c' wart mean beside a package name in aptitude again? |
| 03:58.26 | *** join/#debian Dbug (~Dbug@unaffiliated/dbug) |
| 03:58.29 | linuxguy | votality, seeemed a loy quicker, better grapjics, more polisged up |
| 03:58.56 | *** join/#debian linuxuser-784 (~551998b9@gateway/web/freenode/x-itzvvamassuwyber) |
| 03:59.02 | linuxuser-784 | does setting the nice for a process really have any effect on it's priority? |
| 03:59.06 | votality | i think debian has been loosing ground to being too far behind everything else |
| 03:59.23 | votality | however imho it shouldnt be its the stable distro |
| 03:59.37 | linuxuser-784 | mplayer is still at 1.0rc2 |
| 03:59.43 | linuxuser-784 | that's ancient |
| 04:00.21 | linuxguy | votality, yes true, but i can see the improvements are there for next relwase |
| 04:00.42 | votality | my lord is it updated in the next release |
| 04:01.14 | *** join/#debian SauLus (~SauLus@c150033.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 04:01.59 | linuxuser-784 | dunno |
| 04:01.59 | adb | linuxuser-784, 1:1.0.rc2svn20100219-0.0 |
| 04:02.17 | linuxuser-784 | adb: what's that? |
| 04:02.31 | linuxuser-784 | the current version? |
| 04:02.41 | adb | 2010 02 19 |
| 04:02.58 | Wyzard | That's the current version available from debian-multimedia, not the official Debian repository |
| 04:03.14 | Wyzard | Debian has 1.0~rc3+svn20090405-1+b1 in unstable |
| 04:03.19 | votality | wasnt 1.0rc2 like 2006 |
| 04:03.23 | votality | maybe 2007 |
| 04:03.26 | linuxuser-784 | something like that |
| 04:03.27 | *** join/#debian ntsasng (~Debian@117.6.87.73) |
| 04:03.31 | adb | linuxuser-784, 1.0.rc2 are all , |
| 04:03.43 | Wyzard | I hadn't realized Debian had mplayer packaged at all these days... it used to be not in the official repository for legal reasons |
| 04:03.55 | ntsasng | how is upgrade gnome |
| 04:03.56 | ntsasng | ? |
| 04:04.08 | *** part/#debian gbear14275 (~gbear1427@static-74-106-4-18.syrcny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 04:04.21 | ntsasng | i'm using gnome 2.22.3 |
| 04:04.29 | adb | , versions mplayer |
| 04:04.31 | judd | mplayer -- etch: 1.0~rc1-12etch5; etch-security: 1.0~rc1-12etch7; lenny: 1.0~rc2-17+lenny3; sid: 1.0~rc3+svn20090405-1+b1; squeeze: 1.0~rc3+svn20090405-1+b1; etch-multimedia: 1:1.0-rc1svn20070225-0.3etch1; lenny-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20080706-0.1lenny1; squeeze-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20100219-0.0; sid-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20100313-0.0 |
| 04:04.34 | votality | in any case debian is a lot less buggy than other distros |
| 04:04.46 | votality | at the cost of being out of date |
| 04:04.48 | Titan8990 | judd: versions gnome |
| 04:04.49 | judd | gnome -- etch: 1:2.14.3.6; lenny: 1:2.22.2~5; squeeze: 1:2.28+5; sid: 1:2.28+6 |
| 04:05.00 | Titan8990 | ntsasng: wait for squeeze to become stable |
| 04:05.02 | ntsasng | lenny |
| 04:05.17 | ntsasng | I'm using Debian stable |
| 04:05.30 | linuxuser-784 | i wonder what's the most lightweight distro |
| 04:05.37 | votality | dsl ? |
| 04:05.44 | Titan8990 | ntsasng: there are likely some pieces backported, but a full upgrade would not be good |
| 04:05.48 | linuxuser-784 | dsl is not being supported |
| 04:05.56 | chops1 | votality, linuxuser-784: Are you wandering about trying to start a distro war, then? Best of luck. |
| 04:06.11 | ntsasng | Titan8990: okie, thank |
| 04:06.16 | votality | ? |
| 04:06.23 | Titan8990 | ntsasng: np |
| 04:06.30 | votality | i havn't event mentioned another distro |
| 04:06.43 | linuxuser-784 | no. i'm working with a confined space and i'm wondering what would be the most efficient use of it |
| 04:06.46 | Titan8990 | !start a distro war |
| 04:06.46 | dpkg | Ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'. |
| 04:06.49 | linuxuser-784 | i mean which distro |
| 04:06.54 | votality | other than dsl which is a different question |
| 04:07.07 | votality | its the first question in a new line of questioning |
| 04:07.08 | votality | :P |
| 04:07.18 | votality | (austin powers) |
| 04:07.24 | ntsasng | bye all |
| 04:07.32 | ntsasng | be off |
| 04:07.37 | *** part/#debian ntsasng (~Debian@117.6.87.73) |
| 04:08.25 | adb | linuxuser-784, try #tinycorelinux |
| 04:08.50 | rfranknj | hiya, fluxbox wont run any apps, just sits and hangs in memory whenever i try to start something. isee this in the log file Fluxbox: X Error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)(11) opcodes 53/0 resource 0x120022c followed by a bunch of other x errors |
| 04:08.55 | rfranknj | any help is appreciated |
| 04:09.14 | chops1 | rfranknj: Recent upgrade? What version are you using? |
| 04:09.15 | Wyzard | linuxuser-784: Debian can be fairly small if you don't install unnecessary stuff -- I have a router running lenny with 1GB disk and 40MB RAM |
| 04:09.28 | Wyzard | linuxuser-784: but it's not designed for minimal space like some distros are |
| 04:09.28 | *** join/#debian oblu (~oblu@ip-89-103-168-220.karneval.cz) |
| 04:09.35 | rfranknj | chops1: compiled from git after having this problem with the package in squeeze |
| 04:09.40 | rfranknj | chops1: exact same problem w/ both |
| 04:09.44 | *** join/#debian ChaozZBubi_ (~bubi@piratenpartei/supporter/chaozzbubi) |
| 04:10.14 | *** join/#debian [MONEY] (~TK@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 04:10.14 | chops1 | rfranknj: Talked to the fluxbox developers? Checked the BTS? |
| 04:10.38 | linuxuser-784 | thx. |
| 04:10.50 | rfranknj | chops1: nobody is active in #fluxbox :| |
| 04:11.09 | chops1 | rfranknj: Well, email? |
| 04:11.59 | adb | Wyzard, my router image run all on 120MB RAM - no hard disk |
| 04:12.43 | Wyzard | adb: running Debian? |
| 04:12.58 | adb | rfranknj, that's still weekend , for devels too |
| 04:13.03 | rfranknj | yeah |
| 04:13.05 | adb | Wyzard, sure |
| 04:13.31 | Wyzard | adb: Impressive that you managed to get it that small |
| 04:14.02 | Wyzard | adb: I didn't do any special squeezing on mine, just removed packages I didn't need or want |
| 04:14.36 | Wyzard | adb: It's a Xen domU with a 1GB LVM volume provided by dom0, of which 832MB is used |
| 04:15.04 | adb | Wyzard, cool |
| 04:15.18 | baffled | Wyzard: I updated my mdadm.conf to use yours above the array lines and stopped and assembled with no joy. |
| 04:16.06 | baffled | I moved to mdadm from raid tools before long before mdadm existed so when I moved over I don't believe that have a distribution mdadm.conf file. |
| 04:16.29 | Wyzard | ah, that makes sense |
| 04:16.56 | Wyzard | It seems like the problem is with mdadm and not the array itself, but I don't know why it's doing that |
| 04:17.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 858] by debhelper |
| 04:17.03 | baffled | On a different thread has anyone installed debian mplayer and been able to play all the formats that building mplayer from svn does because I haven't been able too. |
| 04:17.42 | Wyzard | I use mplayer from debian-multimedia and it can play all the formats I've encountered |
| 04:17.43 | rgr | baffled: it, like mpd, probably depends on what libs you have installed when you configure the build. |
| 04:18.08 | rgr | oh you mean installing it from the repos. Sorry. |
| 04:18.31 | baffled | Really? I haven't been able to I still builld it from svn because of that. |
| 04:18.46 | rgr | but mpd from the repos didnt work with mms for example so I installed from source the same version with the necessary dev libs installed and it worked for example. |
| 04:19.33 | Wyzard | baffled: It may help to have w32codecs/w64codecs installed |
| 04:20.03 | baffled | I have them installed from my svn version on the same debian box but still no joy. |
| 04:20.22 | baffled | In /usr/lib/codecs or something like that. |
| 04:20.31 | *** join/#debian acathur (~acathur@unaffiliated/acathur) |
| 04:20.48 | baffled | On another note has anyone found a 3gp player? |
| 04:20.50 | Wyzard | hmm, I'm pretty sure I got w64codecs from debian-multimedia, but it doesn't seem to exist there anymore |
| 04:21.02 | beardy | baffled: mplayer, probably vlc too |
| 04:21.55 | beardy | !dmm |
| 04:21.55 | dpkg | dmm is probably Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm lenny> <dmm squeeze>. |
| 04:21.58 | baffled | Hmmm, my mplayer won't play 3gp files. |
| 04:22.21 | lmaowaffle | Wyzard: it's in contrib |
| 04:22.27 | lmaowaffle | or non-free |
| 04:22.34 | lmaowaffle | but it's still there |
| 04:23.48 | Wyzard | Doesn't look like it... I just added contrib and non-free to the debian-multimedia line in my sources.list and updated, and apt-cache policy still doesn't show it available anywhere |
| 04:24.37 | *** join/#debian grilled-cheese (~grilled-c@74.195.104.118) |
| 04:24.46 | *** join/#debian kermit (~zip55413@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) |
| 04:25.29 | lmaowaffle | sid? |
| 04:25.34 | Wyzard | yes |
| 04:25.42 | lmaowaffle | strange |
| 04:25.46 | hideo | Wyzard: my guess is b/c ffmpeg from dmm should be able to support everything now |
| 04:31.13 | rgr | baffled: ffmpeg installed? |
| 04:32.03 | adb | http://debian-multimedia.org/pool/non-free/w/w64codecs/ |
| 04:32.36 | *** join/#debian myu2_ (~myu2@161.90.128.210.bf.2iij.net) |
| 04:36.48 | *** join/#debian R430R (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 04:37.10 | *** join/#debian Jax (~cptjack@5e0a7b1d.bb.sky.com) |
| 04:38.18 | *** join/#debian Jax (~cptjack@5e0a7b1d.bb.sky.com) |
| 04:39.22 | *** join/#debian Jax (~cptjack@5e0a7b1d.bb.sky.com) |
| 04:40.01 | *** join/#debian rainofkayos (~rainofkay@cpe-66-65-51-242.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 04:40.34 | *** join/#debian Jax (~cptjack@5e0a7b1d.bb.sky.com) |
| 04:42.03 | *** join/#debian Jax (~cptjack@5e0a7b1d.bb.sky.com) |
| 04:44.13 | *** join/#debian azeem_ (~mbanck@pD9E1DF2A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 04:46.36 | *** join/#debian Jax (~cptjack@5e0a7b1d.bb.sky.com) |
| 04:48.53 | lmaowaffle | guess it's there |
| 04:48.55 | *** join/#debian mousequeeze_yrse (~sa@188.27.165.54) |
| 04:49.50 | *** join/#debian mirriondorrar (~Spacemari@173-86-138-87.dsl1-field.roch.ny.frontiernet.net) |
| 04:50.14 | mousequeeze_yrse | NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER |
| 04:50.28 | Vmanz | lol |
| 04:50.30 | mirriondorrar | NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER |
| 04:51.04 | *** join/#debian gbear14275 (~gbear1427@static-74-106-4-18.syrcny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 04:51.41 | gbear14275 | does anyone know if I point both an ubuntu and debian install at the same /home if that would cause problems? |
| 04:52.06 | Supertanker | gbear14275, if I have Windows 98 and Windows Vista using the same drive, would that cause problems? |
| 04:52.06 | *** join/#debian lanthan__ (~ze@p54B7DB87.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 04:52.08 | *** join/#debian Geeth (~geeth@202.148.229.243) |
| 04:52.13 | Supertanker | I think it depends on the applications being used. |
| 04:52.22 | Supertanker | (You know; apps store per-user settings in ~) |
| 04:52.54 | *** part/#debian Geeth (~geeth@202.148.229.243) |
| 04:53.09 | Supertanker | So if a new app verison in Ubuntu has some backwards-compatibility breaking config file than an older version in Debian tries to read... |
| 04:53.22 | Supertanker | I don't think it'll blow up your installation, though :P |
| 04:53.26 | Supertanker | Try it and let me know; I'm curious too. |
| 04:53.29 | *** join/#debian sauvin (~sauvin@unaffiliated/sauvin) |
| 04:53.37 | gbear14275 | Supertanker: I knew some of them did... but wasn't sure about some of the more critical packages like gtk and xwindows or stuff like that (sorry if I used wrong terms) |
| 04:53.40 | lmaowaffle | gbear14275: I use git on my home dotfiles |
| 04:53.41 | pallgone | gbear14275: are you using gnome? |
| 04:53.53 | lmaowaffle | and I checkout according to the distro I'm working in |
| 04:53.59 | gbear14275 | pallgone: yeah gnome |
| 04:54.06 | lmaowaffle | though I run sid, so not too many options are different |
| 04:54.33 | pallgone | gbear14275: I think gnome is saving some stuff in home... so probably that can cause trouble |
| 04:54.58 | Supertanker | It does. |
| 04:54.58 | gbear14275 | lmaowaffle: that sounds a little above my head right now... I'm still trying to figure out how to make a multiboot usb lol, i've got 10g available so I think I should be fine |
| 04:55.30 | lmaowaffle | gbear14275: you can always use the same home partition, but set a different home path for the same user on both distros |
| 04:55.37 | pallgone | depends if the gnomve-devs had that in mind i.e. someone using different versions |
| 04:55.39 | lmaowaffle | ie same username, but different home path |
| 04:56.09 | gbear14275 | sounds like a fun experiment... I'll give it a shot |
| 04:56.11 | lmaowaffle | gbear14275: if you're doing this as a precursor to any sort of debian-migration, it's often better to start with a clean slate, and add functionality as you need |
| 04:56.23 | lmaowaffle | copy config files over one set at a time |
| 04:56.40 | gbear14275 | lmaowaffle: actually going to install debain specifically for a dom0 |
| 04:57.18 | gbear14275 | ubuntu is failing to update their damn virt-manager package and I thought I saw debian has a working backport... (i think i said that right) |
| 04:57.19 | *** join/#debian pvc (~omega@c-75-70-165-105.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 04:58.37 | *** join/#debian lmaowaffle (~lmaowaffl@unaffiliated/lmaowaffle) |
| 04:58.49 | gbear14275 | anyone here use virt-manager on debian? |
| 04:59.32 | gbear14275 | got about 7 min left before the torrent is done |
| 05:05.17 | *** join/#debian sunkan (~sunkan@alva.zappa.cx) |
| 05:05.52 | *** join/#debian jzacsh (~jzacsh@ool-44c4a494.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 05:06.03 | *** join/#debian diffract| (~AD@CPE001c100a4596-CM001ac313982e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 05:06.31 | *** part/#debian diffract| (~AD@CPE001c100a4596-CM001ac313982e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 05:07.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 849] by debhelper |
| 05:08.40 | rgr | gbear14275: sharing ubuntu and debian can work but I dont recommend it - if for nothing more that gnome version issues. |
| 05:08.58 | rgr | many say "it works" - but thats optimistic. |
| 05:09.02 | *** join/#debian alus (~gah@64.13.131.178) |
| 05:09.39 | alus | hi. I'm running an old "lenny/sid" "2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686" box |
| 05:09.54 | alus | I'm looking for a ruby-dbg package, but I can't find one in apt. is one available? |
| 05:10.05 | chops1 | rgr: No, for God's sake don't do that. No one with any sense says it works. |
| 05:13.12 | *** join/#debian n-iCe (nice@201.153.194.239) |
| 05:13.13 | *** join/#debian hideo (~irc@c-98-252-172-73.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 05:13.28 | *** join/#debian stage2 (~stage2@unaffiliated/stagedsh) |
| 05:13.42 | n-iCe | How do I open a gedit with text already on the gedit text |
| 05:14.01 | rfranknj | wat |
| 05:14.15 | stage2 | gedit file.c |
| 05:14.24 | n-iCe | file.c ? and where is the text |
| 05:14.24 | stage2 | or gedit filename |
| 05:14.31 | n-iCe | yeah, but the text? I mean the file does not exists |
| 05:14.37 | *** join/#debian tpocra (~kvirc@c-24-34-195-64.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 05:14.56 | stage2 | then just type gedit from cmd |
| 05:15.21 | n-iCe | but how to insert the text from terminal |
| 05:15.41 | *** join/#debian ehc (~evan@174-30-27-215.eugn.qwest.net) |
| 05:15.56 | stage2 | just type quit |
| 05:16.19 | *** join/#debian n-iCe (nice@unaffiliated/nice/x-729832) |
| 05:16.19 | stage2 | gedit is graphical |
| 05:16.22 | n-iCe | noo |
| 05:16.39 | n-iCe | I want to create a gedit file with text, like gedit file text |
| 05:16.45 | n-iCe | so it will launch with the text |
| 05:17.07 | stage2 | syntax coloring? |
| 05:17.12 | n-iCe | sorry? |
| 05:17.32 | stage2 | your not making any sense |
| 05:17.45 | stage2 | your either a troll or have cant speak english well |
| 05:18.02 | n-iCe | Think |
| 05:18.04 | rgr | "or have cant speak English well". lol. |
| 05:18.18 | n-iCe | How to create a text file from terminal with text in it |
| 05:18.25 | rgr | n-iCe: Start agaiin, |
| 05:18.40 | rgr | n-iCe: Do you want just a text file or you want to EDIT a text file? |
| 05:18.42 | stage2 | gedit is graphical , do you want vim? |
| 05:18.49 | adb | n-iCe, touch , + nano |
| 05:18.53 | rgr | no he does not want vim .... |
| 05:18.56 | shift_wreck | i think he wants to know how to pipe text to gedit |
| 05:18.58 | stage2 | vim owns you |
| 05:19.03 | rgr | echo "My text" > mynewfile.txt |
| 05:19.20 | *** join/#debian Vasistha (~david@unaffiliated/vasistha) |
| 05:19.26 | rgr | vim has to be the most dumb arsed recommendation to someone who doesnt know what a text file is ;) |
| 05:19.37 | *** part/#debian gbear14275 (~gbear1427@static-74-106-4-18.syrcny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 05:19.38 | n-iCe | thanks |
| 05:20.13 | n-iCe | rgr: thanks |
| 05:20.18 | rgr | shift_wreck: why would he want to pipe text to gedit? Nothing he said indicated that whatsoever. |
| 05:20.29 | Vasistha | my computer was in suspend-to-ram sleep when daylight savings time kicked in. Is there a proper way to request that the clock sync via ntp? |
| 05:20.32 | baffled | rgr: were you asking if I have ffmpeg installed or telling me it'll play 3gp files? |
| 05:20.52 | *** join/#debian Old_Spike0 (~Old_Spike@82.158.226.189.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 05:20.54 | rgr | baffled: I merely asked if you had the ffmpeg libs installed - useful when building any multimedia app. |
| 05:20.58 | chops1 | Vasistha: ntpdate |
| 05:20.58 | Vasistha | or maybe the proper was is to reboot the computer? but... that doesn't seem right. |
| 05:21.00 | shift_wreck | "I want to create a gedit file with text, like gedit file text" |
| 05:21.03 | baffled | Wyzard: I've rebuilt that array again and am doing a forced fsck on it currently. |
| 05:21.07 | Vasistha | chops1: like, just run it? okay :) |
| 05:21.16 | adb | n-iCe, or so , date > date , then > cat date |
| 05:21.18 | rgr | shift_wreck: and what indicates him piping anything to gedit? |
| 05:21.33 | Vasistha | chops1: well that certainly did the trick. thanks much! |
| 05:22.07 | shift_wreck | the next line says "so it will launch with the text" |
| 05:22.11 | shift_wreck | i assumed |
| 05:22.20 | chops1 | Vasistha: np |
| 05:22.55 | baffled | rgr: Yes I do have the ffmpeg library installed. |
| 05:23.02 | *** join/#debian Gilde (~Gilde@dslb-092-076-140-180.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 05:23.13 | *** join/#debian ChildOfGod (~debayan@122.167.233.102) |
| 05:23.26 | rgr | wow. This .33 kernel is SO much more stable than the 32 one before. |
| 05:23.41 | shift_wreck | and i said "i think" which is a qualifier for "im not certain what he is asking but this is what i have determined i his question to be" |
| 05:24.18 | rgr | shift_wreck: its just that piping has a defined meaning and I doubt thats what he wanted at all. In fact he didnt. He just wanted to create a text file. |
| 05:24.58 | *** join/#debian lmaowaffle (~lmaowaffl@unaffiliated/lmaowaffle) |
| 05:25.03 | *** join/#debian meliowant (~wanderlus@188.4.159.72.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 05:25.14 | rgr | Hmm, thinking about it, can you even pipe text to gedit? What would it mean? |
| 05:25.16 | shift_wreck | rgr, neat. :) good for you and him. |
| 05:26.23 | *** join/#debian lmaowaffle (~lmaowaffl@unaffiliated/lmaowaffle) |
| 05:26.43 | baffled | Well folks I have to get up for work in three hours so I'll say good night and thank you all very much. |
| 05:27.06 | baffled | Wyzard: thanks a lot I'll monitor this fsck and see what happens. |
| 05:27.23 | *** join/#debian meliowant (~wanderlus@188.4.159.72.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 05:27.35 | *** part/#debian baffled (~kirk@206-248-184-127.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 05:28.43 | *** join/#debian sauvin (~sauvin@unaffiliated/sauvin) |
| 05:29.31 | *** join/#debian stesen (~stesen@124.160.106.7) |
| 05:30.09 | Arrowmaster | Vasistha: do you keep your cmos clock set to local time instead of utc? |
| 05:30.21 | Vasistha | Arrowmaster: utc |
| 05:30.26 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 05:30.41 | *** join/#debian joneal (~we6jbo@cpe-66-75-229-230.san.res.rr.com) |
| 05:31.00 | Arrowmaster | seems odd that the time would be wrong then |
| 05:34.52 | *** join/#debian ra1nb0w (~1337@ra1nb0w-1-pt.tunnel.tserv10.par1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 05:40.01 | *** join/#debian seisatsu (~seisatsu@adsl-99-55-173-202.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 05:41.37 | *** join/#debian joshdavey (~joshdavey@CPE0023699d7653-CM00159a01ba1e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 05:43.31 | *** join/#debian R430R (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 05:43.41 | *** join/#debian wertik_rus (~wertik@95-25-23-91.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 05:45.41 | *** join/#debian LinuxMercedes (~LinuxMerc@r01nmjxv3.device.mst.edu) |
| 05:45.52 | *** join/#debian dbk (~dbk@65-117-71-218-client.wyom.net) |
| 05:47.10 | Vasistha | Arrowmaster: well the computer was in suspend-to-ram sleep when daylight savings time kicked in, and I guess my suspend scripts don't automatically run ntpdate on resume (which would be a logical thing to do). |
| 05:47.21 | *** join/#debian visof (~visof@41.238.233.185) |
| 05:48.53 | Arrowmaster | i dont really know anything about suspend but it doesnt make much sense to me why it would need to run ntpdate to correct for daylight savings time if the hardware clock is set to utc |
| 05:49.00 | *** join/#debian amsterdam (~nixda@xdsl-87-79-160-175.netcologne.de) |
| 05:50.19 | *** join/#debian stesen (~stesen@124.160.106.7) |
| 05:50.52 | chops1 | Vasistha: I think Vasistha is correct; I don't see why being in a suspend state would affect the DST situation on way or another if everything's set up correctly |
| 05:50.54 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) |
| 05:50.59 | chops1 | Vasistha: Er I think Arrowmaster is correct |
| 05:52.20 | Vasistha | I am going to assume that in this case, running ntpdate updates the timezone, not the clock. |
| 05:52.42 | *** join/#debian visof_ (~visof@41.238.235.75) |
| 05:52.45 | Arrowmaster | no it updates the clock |
| 05:53.09 | Vasistha | hmmm... although... here's the message it gave: 14 Mar 22:21:18 ntpdate[27312]: step time server 216.45.57.38 offset 3604.837438 sec |
| 05:53.34 | Vasistha | I wonder if my clock is local instead of utc... where would I look to find that out? |
| 05:54.28 | Arrowmaster | check /etc/default/rcS |
| 05:54.53 | Arrowmaster | grep UTC /etc/default/rcS |
| 05:55.04 | Vasistha | indeed! utc=no |
| 05:55.37 | chops1 | Vasistha: Unix always (in general) stores time without regard to timezone; timezone is a display thing for users only. Storing local-timezone values is an excellent way to fail (with this situation as a prime example) |
| 05:55.42 | Arrowmaster | now it makes sense |
| 05:56.10 | Vasistha | huh. well iirc I did a default debian install, so I guess the default behavior was not to set the clock to utc. perhaps that's because it detected a windows partition lurking that I forgot to delete |
| 05:56.17 | *** join/#debian e1z0 (~null@pdpc/supporter/7for7/e1z0) |
| 05:56.21 | Arrowmaster | maybe |
| 05:56.37 | Arrowmaster | i know it asked me when i did an expert install on a clean drive |
| 06:02.15 | *** join/#debian myu2 (~myu2@161.90.128.210.bf.2iij.net) |
| 06:02.55 | *** join/#debian tazle (~tazle@fop3.kyla.fi) |
| 06:04.03 | *** join/#debian visof_ (~visof@41.238.232.214) |
| 06:07.01 | *** join/#debian daya (~daya@202.63.242.211) |
| 06:07.33 | *** join/#debian visof__ (~visof@41.238.235.216) |
| 06:08.44 | *** join/#debian kupesoft (~dave@unaffiliated/kupesoft) |
| 06:08.48 | *** join/#debian chops1 (~amoise@c-98-216-10-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 06:09.38 | *** join/#debian Eren (~eren@unaffiliated/eren) |
| 06:09.48 | brbrbr | can anyone point me 2 link about transparent migration between debian versions ?(such as Eth--> Lenny, Lenny-->Squeeze and etc), w/o reinstall from hard media ? |
| 06:12.10 | *** join/#debian cahoot (~radix@pdpc/supporter/active/cahoot) |
| 06:12.56 | adb | !tell brbrbr -about Etch->Lenny |
| 06:13.53 | adb | !tell brbrbr -about Lenny->Squeeze |
| 06:14.05 | *** join/#debian holycow (~new@poco208-2.fredcanhelp.com) |
| 06:15.29 | brbrbr | tnx |
| 06:15.53 | *** join/#debian stesen (~stesen@124.160.106.7) |
| 06:17.13 | *** join/#debian evan_ (~evan@174-30-21-91.eugn.qwest.net) |
| 06:19.38 | *** join/#debian Muhammad (~Karmic@unaffiliated/eng1n33r) |
| 06:21.14 | *** join/#debian DogBoy (~john@unaffiliated/dogboy) |
| 06:21.24 | *** join/#debian stesen_ (~stesen@124.160.106.7) |
| 06:26.19 | *** join/#debian linuxlurker (~random@CPE-60-226-113-25.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 06:26.43 | *** join/#debian harpal (~Harpal@121.246.75.165) |
| 06:28.10 | *** join/#debian Diddi (diddi@h131n2-oer-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 06:30.41 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@20158129068.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 06:31.47 | *** join/#debian jan247 (~jan247@unaffiliated/jan247) |
| 06:35.21 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 06:36.12 | *** join/#debian acathur (~acathur@unaffiliated/acathur) |
| 06:38.52 | *** join/#debian Bac9 (~Bac9@2001:5c0:1500:f301:224:1dff:fe78:d7bd) |
| 06:39.06 | *** join/#debian Roma_39m (~mirc@93-40-138-12.ip39.fastwebnet.it) |
| 06:39.12 | Diddi | yo, on my sid, I have a command, stdbuf, which I've found comes with the coreutils package.. is there some way to get it for lenny? |
| 06:44.13 | *** join/#debian ma3x_ (~ma3x@unaffiliated/ma3x) |
| 06:45.12 | *** join/#debian mobidev (~mobidev@94.127.205.30) |
| 06:46.38 | *** join/#debian k\t (~]r@cpe-76-90-162-150.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 06:48.29 | *** join/#debian ehc (~evan@174-30-21-91.eugn.qwest.net) |
| 06:49.43 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe2 (~havoc@SE400.PPPoE-5804.sa.bih.net.ba) |
| 06:53.23 | *** join/#debian manicman (~manicman@unaffiliated/manicman) |
| 06:53.44 | *** join/#debian Matic`Makovec (biggi_mat@193.2.116.180) |
| 06:54.08 | *** join/#debian misnix (~jkr@corona.xs4all.nl) |
| 06:55.47 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 06:56.03 | *** join/#debian matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) |
| 06:56.40 | hid3 | !tell me about pciid |
| 06:58.00 | *** join/#debian konqi (~konqi@gw.mainz.interexa.de) |
| 06:58.01 | *** join/#debian konqi_ (~konqi@gw.mainz.interexa.de) |
| 06:58.29 | *** join/#debian pihhan (~pihhan@pihhan.cipis.net) |
| 06:59.08 | *** join/#debian dbbolton (~daniel@c-67-163-171-209.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 06:59.16 | *** part/#debian dbbolton (~daniel@c-67-163-171-209.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 07:00.39 | *** join/#debian stesen (~stesen@124.160.106.7) |
| 07:00.50 | *** join/#debian Gm4n (~Gm4n@unaffiliated/gm4n) |
| 07:02.14 | *** join/#debian gauge (~gauge@c-24-218-40-127.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 07:02.18 | *** join/#debian nike (~niko@c-24-34-195-64.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 07:02.23 | *** join/#debian LinuxMercedes (~LinuxMerc@131.151.64.153) |
| 07:02.54 | *** join/#debian guk (chris@63.135.17.61) |
| 07:03.01 | *** join/#debian rfranknj (~rfranknj@oss-staff.rutgers.edu) |
| 07:03.38 | *** join/#debian seisatsu (~seisatsu@adsl-99-55-173-202.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 07:04.18 | *** join/#debian ryg9I (~pavel@91.200.45.31) |
| 07:04.47 | *** join/#debian Gnurdux (~gnurdux@c-68-50-118-143.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 07:05.02 | *** join/#debian Kazuha (~sakura@adsl-76-247-40-96.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 07:05.09 | *** join/#debian sauvin (~sauvin@unaffiliated/sauvin) |
| 07:05.43 | *** join/#debian daya (~daya@202.63.242.211) |
| 07:06.29 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 07:07.27 | *** join/#debian Roma_39m (~mirc@93-40-138-12.ip39.fastwebnet.it) |
| 07:07.47 | *** join/#debian vkrug (~vkrug@89.244.128.68) |
| 07:07.54 | *** join/#debian guk (chris@63.135.17.61) |
| 07:10.50 | *** join/#debian Zylvain (~Zylvain@AToulouse-257-1-79-14.w90-5.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 07:10.57 | *** join/#debian e-jones (~jkastner@nat/redhat/x-cpzoyzhgxcsyeczu) |
| 07:11.17 | *** join/#debian AlHafoudh (~AlHafoudh@213.151.217.151) |
| 07:13.39 | *** join/#debian sauvin (~sauvin@unaffiliated/sauvin) |
| 07:15.24 | *** join/#debian ColdFyre (~coldfyre@c-67-169-165-12.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 07:16.31 | *** join/#debian matt7676 (~martint@martint.data.ee) |
| 07:16.59 | *** join/#debian mastro (~mastro@62.101.100.5) |
| 07:17.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 858] by debhelper |
| 07:18.28 | *** join/#debian peppe (~peppe@unaffiliated/peppe) |
| 07:18.35 | matu | hi, please how to remove this "ripples-root-oily-light2-stirtux@linux:/proc/14881$ |
| 07:18.36 | matu | " of my server ? |
| 07:18.48 | matu | what is this "ripples" about ? |
| 07:19.01 | matu | it is taking 42% of my cpu... |
| 07:19.22 | *** join/#debian skhater (~skhater@41.232.155.237) |
| 07:19.28 | Wyzard | matu: The name before the '@' and hostname in your shell prompt is your username |
| 07:19.38 | matu | i know it |
| 07:19.48 | matu | how to remove the ripples process taking my cpu time |
| 07:19.48 | Bushmills | is that an ubuntism for "i have stuff installed i didn't know i wanted"? |
| 07:19.50 | matu | please ? |
| 07:19.56 | Wyzard | matu: Your username isn't a process |
| 07:20.14 | matu | i know... i did read this in the /proc/pid/ |
| 07:20.17 | matu | cmdline |
| 07:20.35 | matu | ripples-root-oily-light2-stirtux@linux:/proc/14881$ |
| 07:20.46 | *** join/#debian nore (~nore@c-174-51-235-111.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 07:20.54 | nore | hi everybody! |
| 07:20.58 | matu | Wyzard: do you know how to remove this please ? |
| 07:21.05 | Wyzard | That prompt means that a user named "ripples-root-oily-light2-stirtux", on a machine named "linux", is in the /proc/14881 directory |
| 07:21.09 | matu | whereis ripples only give me a man page |
| 07:21.29 | Wyzard | The name "ripples-root-oily-light2-stirtux" has nothing to do with process 14881 |
| 07:21.34 | matu | no it means ripples-root-oily-light2-stir is running |
| 07:21.43 | Bushmills | thinks there is a bit of concept muddling going on |
| 07:21.44 | Wyzard | If you did "cd /etc" then the prompt would say "ripples-root-oily-light2-stirtux@linux:/etc$" |
| 07:21.47 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@secure.dreampark.se) |
| 07:21.55 | *** part/#debian alus (~gah@64.13.131.178) |
| 07:22.04 | nore | i'm gonna change grub.conf. I'd like to add another distro and it is in /dev/sda7. So the question is how can I find out the root(hd0,X) number? thanx! |
| 07:22.05 | matu | ohlala please could anyone help me to remove this "ripples" process of my server ? |
| 07:22.19 | *** join/#debian morfol (~morfol@port-92-195-164-100.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 07:22.24 | matu | i guess it has something to do with the screensaver |
| 07:22.27 | Wyzard | matu: If you run "echo $PS1" in your shell, what does it say? |
| 07:23.03 | matu | \[\e]0;\u@\h: \w\a\]${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$ |
| 07:23.48 | nsadmin | matu: where did this process come from? when did you start it? why did you start it? what are you trying to accomplish overall? are you running ubuntu or debian or something else? |
| 07:23.52 | matu | whereis ripples |
| 07:23.53 | matu | ripples: /usr/share/man/man6/ripples.6x.gz |
| 07:24.10 | matu | whereis ripples |
| 07:24.11 | matu | ripples: /usr/share/man/man6/ripples.6x.gz |
| 07:24.14 | matu | DESCRIPTION |
| 07:24.15 | matu | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:24.15 | matu | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:24.15 | matu | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:24.15 | *** kick/#debian [matu!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (use the paster bot or #flood) |
| 07:24.20 | robbles | god |
| 07:24.23 | *** join/#debian matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) |
| 07:24.26 | matu | erf sorry |
| 07:24.33 | nsadmin | stop pasting |
| 07:24.34 | matu | do you know how to remove this s* please ? |
| 07:24.43 | matu | i am sorry |
| 07:24.44 | nsadmin | stop repeatimng |
| 07:24.50 | matu | i wont do this anymore |
| 07:24.51 | *** join/#debian bier|tp (~bier@pD9E2EAD0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:24.53 | matu | ok |
| 07:24.57 | nsadmin | answer the questions please |
| 07:25.17 | matu | i already answered the questions :/ |
| 07:26.06 | nsadmin | so you're running ubuntu? |
| 07:26.16 | matu | obviously no |
| 07:26.24 | *** join/#debian acathur (~acathur@unaffiliated/acathur) |
| 07:26.29 | matu | i am chatting on #debian '^^ |
| 07:26.35 | matu | not #ubuntu |
| 07:26.48 | *** join/#debian xlotlu (~john@188.26.196.250) |
| 07:26.58 | matu | oh your questions sorry |
| 07:27.44 | nsadmin | seems your excitment level is pretty high |
| 07:28.12 | matu | i dont know where it comes from, i guess it has something do to with a screensaver, i never started this but am running xorg, i did not start it, i would like to kill this f* process that is draining my cpu time, i am running debian stable |
| 07:28.40 | nsadmin | how do you know it's draining your cpu time? |
| 07:28.51 | matu | because i see this running the top command |
| 07:28.51 | *** join/#debian Meise (~meise@2001:470:1f0b:15a5:21f:16ff:fe0e:32b) |
| 07:29.06 | matu | it disappeared... |
| 07:29.17 | robbles | isn't that part of the screensaver? Set it up so that it doesn't start |
| 07:29.22 | matu | wtf oO |
| 07:29.33 | matu | i removed the screen of my server :( |
| 07:30.11 | matu | i dont know why but it disappeared of the process list right now |
| 07:30.12 | Wyzard | is still wondering why the username part of a shell prompt is being discussed as if it's a process |
| 07:30.36 | nsadmin | Wyzard: he says it's showing up in top (or was) |
| 07:30.57 | robbles | matu: what does "whoami" show when you type it in the shell? |
| 07:31.06 | matu | tux |
| 07:31.56 | Wyzard | so in "ripples-root-oily-light2-stirtux", "tux" is the username and "ripples-root-oily-light2-stir" is something else |
| 07:32.09 | matu | yes i said it before |
| 07:32.20 | matu | no it means ripples-root-oily-light2-stir is running |
| 07:32.43 | nsadmin | you'd have to prove that |
| 07:32.49 | matu | i think i will have to plug on a screen |
| 07:32.55 | robbles | disable your screensaver. |
| 07:33.00 | Wyzard | Well, you said your $PS1 is "\[\e]0;\u@\h: \w\a\]${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\u@\h:\w\$" |
| 07:33.19 | Wyzard | which does have some unusual stuff at the beginning, but nothing that would print names like that |
| 07:33.22 | matu | yes |
| 07:33.30 | matu | ah really ? |
| 07:33.43 | nsadmin | let's define a coupla things... what is a name for the machine you're ircing from now? |
| 07:33.56 | matu | did i get hacked ? |
| 07:34.46 | matu | i forgot the machine name sorry |
| 07:35.01 | nsadmin | then make one up so we can talk abou it |
| 07:35.19 | robbles | "uname -n" is the machine name |
| 07:35.25 | matu | ah yes sorry |
| 07:35.25 | Wyzard | Apparently "ripples -root -oily -light 2 -stir" is indeed the command line of a screensaver |
| 07:35.27 | matu | debian |
| 07:35.31 | matu | the name is debian |
| 07:35.37 | Wyzard | It's in http://www.richardneill.org/a22p-mdk9-1_files/dot_xscreensaver |
| 07:35.42 | nsadmin | ok, is debian the same as this server you're talking about? |
| 07:35.48 | matu | no |
| 07:35.57 | matu | is has the name "linux" |
| 07:36.04 | matu | because tux is on linux |
| 07:36.07 | nsadmin | so the server is called linux |
| 07:36.08 | *** join/#debian Henrik`G (~hb@80.199.116.190.static.peytz.dk) |
| 07:36.14 | matu | yes |
| 07:36.26 | nsadmin | what distance is debian from linux? |
| 07:36.51 | matu | 5 or 6 meters '^^ |
| 07:37.05 | matu | dont hit me '^^ |
| 07:37.15 | nsadmin | does linux have a monitor and X and etc? |
| 07:37.30 | matu | yes because i need to run a X application on it |
| 07:37.51 | robbles | ripples is part of xscreensaver, so configure it so it doesn't run ripples. Or just disable xscreensaver completely |
| 07:38.08 | matu | the problem is i use a cheap onboard graphic cheap so it takes less energy |
| 07:38.16 | nsadmin | ok... so you seem to have installed quite a lot of x stuff on "linux" |
| 07:38.21 | matu | so when a screensaver is running it takes a lot of cpu time |
| 07:38.38 | matu | not really i just installed lxde |
| 07:38.47 | matu | and the x application |
| 07:38.54 | nsadmin | which seems to have, among other things, a screen saver :) |
| 07:39.05 | matu | right >_< |
| 07:39.16 | *** join/#debian freetime (~roman@87.248.166.200) |
| 07:39.44 | nsadmin | ok, you -could- run the app "remotely"... run on "linux" display on "debian" |
| 07:40.32 | *** join/#debian wr| (~wr@p579F8D70.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:40.42 | nsadmin | btw, is anyone making use of "linux" other than yourself? |
| 07:41.06 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@ghenry.plus.com) |
| 07:41.06 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/ghenry) |
| 07:42.48 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~project25@86.51.114.108) |
| 07:43.06 | *** join/#debian bibekp (~bibek@unaffiliated/bibekp) |
| 07:44.18 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~sod@host81-141-48-105.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 07:45.31 | matu | i dont know how to do it nsadmin |
| 07:45.39 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@c-76-121-43-48.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 07:45.49 | matu | no i am the one using the server |
| 07:45.52 | matu | i hope so... |
| 07:45.55 | nsadmin | would you prefer to do it? |
| 07:46.12 | matu | sure i would prefer to do it this way so i dont have to move the screen in my kitchen... |
| 07:46.20 | nsadmin | would save you from having to use two monitors and two kbds |
| 07:46.36 | matu | what is a kbds ? |
| 07:46.46 | *** join/#debian Roma_39m (~mirc@93-40-138-12.ip39.fastwebnet.it) |
| 07:46.51 | nsadmin | the buttons you're now pushing |
| 07:47.01 | nsadmin | keyboard |
| 07:47.16 | matu | ok |
| 07:47.18 | *** join/#debian lordlamer (~fhaberman@e177254228.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 07:47.21 | matu | cool |
| 07:47.29 | matu | lol lordlamer what a nice nickname ^^ |
| 07:48.04 | nsadmin | what you could try is... ssh to linux from debian, and then try: echo $DISPLAY |
| 07:48.15 | amphi | !nickometer lordlamer |
| 07:48.16 | dpkg | 'lordlamer' is 94.780% lame, amphi |
| 07:48.26 | amphi | \o/ |
| 07:48.29 | matu | localhost:10.0 |
| 07:48.39 | lordlamer | morning |
| 07:48.44 | matu | !nickometer matu |
| 07:48.45 | dpkg | 'matu' is 0.000% lame, matu |
| 07:48.54 | matu | what is it about ? |
| 07:48.58 | nsadmin | ok, from that shell, try: emacs |
| 07:49.12 | matu | emacs is not installed |
| 07:49.25 | nsadmin | ok, try the app you wanted to run |
| 07:49.30 | amphi | heh |
| 07:49.32 | matu | i should try emacs though |
| 07:49.59 | nsadmin | will take too long to install, just to see if this works |
| 07:50.23 | matu | ah do you want me to run the graphic applications running on my server ? |
| 07:50.47 | nsadmin | or anything GUI you know you have installed |
| 07:51.13 | matu | xeyes is often installed ^^ |
| 07:51.20 | nsadmin | try that |
| 07:51.48 | matu | you are right it is a nice idea, i can just launch this application and so turn off the screensaver |
| 07:51.49 | matu | it works |
| 07:52.06 | nsadmin | so to summarize: |
| 07:52.10 | *** join/#debian mdi (~marc@miguel.ihf.RWTH-Aachen.DE) |
| 07:52.16 | matu | i think i should disable the export display option... |
| 07:52.25 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:52.30 | *** join/#debian manixor (~manixor@79.114.25.224) |
| 07:52.41 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:52.41 | *** join/#debian grazymax (~grazymax@host195-156-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 07:52.48 | *** join/#debian phrozen77 (phrozen77@pdpc/supporter/77for7/phrozen77) |
| 07:52.54 | wedge | how come the debian installer is such a buggy POS sometimes? :P |
| 07:53.00 | nsadmin | if you disable the display, this will not work |
| 07:53.07 | wedge | crashes due to ATI chipset and stuff if you run it in textmode |
| 07:53.08 | matu | what does POS mean ? |
| 07:53.11 | wedge | but works fine in graphical mode |
| 07:53.20 | wedge | peiece of shit |
| 07:53.21 | wedge | :) |
| 07:53.25 | nsadmin | then I have a suggestion... |
| 07:53.27 | matu | lol |
| 07:53.33 | nsadmin | RUN IT IN GRAPHICAL MODE |
| 07:53.34 | wedge | trust me, I love debian to bits |
| 07:53.43 | wedge | but sometimes text mode is preferred |
| 07:53.51 | *** join/#debian nvz (~nvz@c-67-163-183-55.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 07:53.53 | wedge | like when running it over a kvm |
| 07:54.40 | matu | nsadmin: i think i can remove the export display from the ssh daemon config file |
| 07:54.57 | matu | because my graphical application is able to run a http server |
| 07:55.06 | nsadmin | yes you can, but if you do that all the stuff we just did will not work |
| 07:55.35 | ethanol | mornin' all! |
| 07:55.39 | matu | what stuff are you talking about '^^ ? |
| 07:55.45 | matu | mornin' ethanol |
| 07:56.03 | nvz | ethanol: you're not gasoline.. |
| 07:56.08 | *** join/#debian ExodusC (~Exodus@129.252.177.65) |
| 07:56.12 | nvz | er'm s/not/no/ |
| 07:56.56 | ethanol | nvz: but I could be! |
| 07:57.00 | nvz | "My SUV doesn't run on corn!" - Daniel Tosh |
| 07:57.03 | matu | i did not understand the joke |
| 07:57.11 | matu | thank you nsadmin |
| 07:57.34 | nvz | then you must live in a country where they aren't trying to make cars that run on ethanol.. heh |
| 07:57.53 | matu | ok lol |
| 07:57.59 | nsadmin | if you do the ssh thing, then "linux" will not need an x server or a screen saver |
| 07:58.31 | matu | really ? can i launch a graphical application like xeyes through ssh without running a X server ? |
| 07:58.32 | *** join/#debian Robbie (~robbie@router.begen1.office.netnoc.eu) |
| 07:58.42 | nsadmin | YOU JUST DID |
| 07:59.04 | matu | noooooo X is running on the server, why did you say this ? |
| 07:59.28 | nsadmin | because it did not involve the x server running on "linux" in any way |
| 07:59.37 | matu | ah |
| 07:59.44 | nvz | idk if its applicable at all, but you can run a vnc server, which is an X display, and can be tunneled through ssh |
| 07:59.50 | *** join/#debian pierreghz (~pierre@cust-167-88-111-94.dyn.as47377.net) |
| 07:59.54 | nvz | I logged in in the middle of the conversation |
| 08:00.13 | nsadmin | so you need some background... I suggest you read: man X |
| 08:00.14 | matu | excellent, i asked this question a long time ago and someone told me i had to |
| 08:00.26 | matu | so i dont have to run a X server on my server in order to use the ssh export display |
| 08:00.44 | nsadmin | correct, you only need the x client libs |
| 08:00.44 | nvz | and personally I'm suddenly more interested in listening to 90s music, pretending to be a teenager again, and watching comedians.. heh |
| 08:01.07 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~SkG@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) |
| 08:01.17 | matu | i also have to say the debian graphical installation is very nice, a few years ago i was unable to install debian because the text mod is only blinking |
| 08:01.26 | matu | but using the grpahical installation is now works |
| 08:01.30 | *** join/#debian Cybertinus (~Cybertinu@tunnel3304.ipv6.xs4all.nl) |
| 08:01.34 | matu | thank you nsadmin |
| 08:01.55 | nsadmin | you can thank me by reading man X |
| 08:02.00 | matu | what are you listening nvz ? |
| 08:02.05 | matu | ok |
| 08:02.36 | *** join/#debian p0g0 (~pogo@unaffiliated/p0g0) |
| 08:02.41 | matu | erf it is Xorg i was talking about, not X |
| 08:03.11 | nsadmin | but that's not the right man page |
| 08:03.18 | matu | it is "fuzzyflakes" now lol |
| 08:03.20 | nsadmin | man X is the right one |
| 08:03.28 | *** join/#debian raz0 (~raz0@x1-6-00-18-4d-e8-79-94.k687.webspeed.dk) |
| 08:03.34 | matu | i dont have this page nsadmin |
| 08:03.44 | matu | See 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available. |
| 08:03.51 | nvz | I'm listening alright.. to Mark Morrison and laughing my ass off remembering a time when we were young and dumb enough to think this song was cool. |
| 08:05.00 | *** join/#debian _Juggernaut (linuxdoc@opensource.freebsd.us.com) |
| 08:05.41 | *** join/#debian jelly-home (~jelly@islands.iskon.hr) |
| 08:06.07 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@212.51.167.181) |
| 08:07.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 868] by debhelper |
| 08:09.56 | *** join/#debian lataffe_ (~lataffe@cm-84.211.144.94.getinternet.no) |
| 08:10.57 | *** join/#debian Sia- (~sia@unaffiliated/desian) |
| 08:11.41 | mastro | how do I print the current limits.conf setting? |
| 08:11.52 | *** join/#debian ketsa (~ketsa@adsl-84-227-237-231.adslplus.ch) |
| 08:11.55 | mastro | I mean.. not the file.. the limits "in place" |
| 08:12.00 | mastro | for the current user |
| 08:12.02 | *** join/#debian Kohvihoor (~Zwara@fffu.ee) |
| 08:13.10 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@212.51.167.181) |
| 08:15.41 | *** join/#debian hollo_ (~mh@gw1.cego.dk) |
| 08:16.07 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@cs27018007.pp.htv.fi) |
| 08:17.20 | *** join/#debian EagleWatch (~eaglewatc@magellan.utcluj.ro) |
| 08:17.38 | *** join/#debian thrashold (~europan@3mhz.net) |
| 08:18.08 | *** join/#debian talkZilla (~talkZilla@123.132.30.162) |
| 08:19.09 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@212.51.167.181) |
| 08:19.12 | matu | ok nvz |
| 08:19.15 | *** join/#debian MrLee (~lee@2001:8b0:ffb3:0:215:58ff:fea4:ca67) |
| 08:19.31 | talkZilla | hello,world |
| 08:19.44 | matu | during 90's i liked the daftpunk... |
| 08:19.51 | matu | hi talkZilla |
| 08:20.03 | nvz | talkZilla: -!- world: No such nick/channel |
| 08:20.25 | matu | do you know the daftpunk nvz ? |
| 08:20.59 | nvz | you mean the band? |
| 08:21.08 | matu | yes |
| 08:21.15 | nvz | heard of it, yes |
| 08:21.28 | *** join/#debian Cri (~Cri@c-24-2-27-169.hsd1.mo.comcast.net) |
| 08:21.35 | *** join/#debian kaziem (~devnull@159.23.106.243) |
| 08:22.06 | *** join/#debian greenmang0 (~abhishek@unaffiliated/greenmang0) |
| 08:22.13 | *** join/#debian R430R (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 08:22.17 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~project25@86.51.114.210) |
| 08:23.26 | *** part/#debian Cri (~Cri@c-24-2-27-169.hsd1.mo.comcast.net) |
| 08:23.36 | *** join/#debian rainofkayos (~rainofkay@cpe-66-65-51-242.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 08:24.24 | *** join/#debian freetime (~roman@87.248.166.200) |
| 08:25.04 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@212.51.167.181) |
| 08:25.48 | *** join/#debian simNIX (~simNIX@156-60.bbned.dsl.internl.net) |
| 08:27.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 876] by debhelper |
| 08:27.10 | *** join/#debian CharminTheMoose (~Count_fuz@unaffiliated/charminthemoose) |
| 08:27.25 | *** join/#debian meliowant (~wanderlus@alfeios.physics.auth.gr) |
| 08:28.12 | *** join/#debian abchirk (~abchirk@unaffiliated/abchirk) |
| 08:28.46 | *** join/#debian sphenxes (~sphenxes@85-127-220-10.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 08:30.32 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 08:31.46 | *** join/#debian peef (~vmplanet@badwlrz-cw26395.lrz.lrz-muenchen.de) |
| 08:32.14 | *** join/#debian E-bola (~bola@smtp.techbiz.dk) |
| 08:33.11 | E-bola | I have a java based online backup program, and when it runs it makes other services time out for the duration its running, so i was wondering what i could do to let it run at the very lowest priority so it doesnt effect other services. I know u can do something with "nice" but i have no idea how to change the priority of this service. |
| 08:33.45 | *** join/#debian pkl (pkl@gateway/shell/bshellz.net/x-ndgooxqjzybvrmlg) |
| 08:33.49 | *** join/#debian Azrael_- (~awef@p4FFF601A.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 08:35.55 | *** join/#debian thunderstrike (~thunderst@static-mum-120.63.240.52.mtnl.net.in) |
| 08:36.53 | hollo_ | hi.. i have a script on my local computer, that i would like to execute on a remote server.. its a php script, and i have a php parser on the remote server.. |
| 08:36.59 | *** join/#debian tempeldirne (~L@frnk-590cb9f4.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 08:37.23 | hollo_ | i know i can simple copy the script to /tmp and execute the script.. and remove it.. but i perfer just to keep the script on my local computer |
| 08:37.30 | *** join/#debian Teknotik (~TK@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 08:39.05 | *** join/#debian fr33k (~fvb@84-105-250-247.cable.quicknet.nl) |
| 08:40.10 | *** join/#debian HackeMate (~HackeMate@171.Red-88-19-198.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 08:40.23 | *** join/#debian da78 (~dA@p5DCC93A3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:40.58 | mastro | ulimit -a |
| 08:42.46 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@212.51.167.181) |
| 08:45.27 | *** join/#debian winford (~winford@173-86-187-10.dr01.myck.or.frontiernet.net) |
| 08:45.31 | *** join/#debian tarik (~chatzilla@41.140.248.167) |
| 08:46.05 | *** join/#debian pierreghzthe2nd (~pierre@cust-29-121-111-94.dyn.as47377.net) |
| 08:46.20 | hid3 | Hello everyone. Now I'm using CCISS driver for my HP Smart Array Controller. However, i can see that a new SCSI driver is available for this controller (config_scsi_hpsa). Not my root device is /dev/cciss/c0d0p2. Any ideas how it will be called with the scsi_hpsa driver? |
| 08:46.36 | *** join/#debian Al|e|\| (~pierre@cust-29-121-111-94.dyn.as47377.net) |
| 08:47.04 | jelly-home | hid3: probably /dev/sd* |
| 08:47.14 | jelly-home | say, /dev/sda2 |
| 08:47.32 | streuner_ | hid3: cat /proc/partitions ? |
| 08:47.53 | jelly-home | he (rightfully) worries the machine will be unbootable |
| 08:48.42 | jelly-home | hid3: using UUID or LABEL for root= boot parameter, and in /etc/fstab, might ease the transition |
| 08:50.14 | jelly-home | hid3: however, cciss driver has been here for a while. I doubt Debian would make a rash decision like prefering the new one in their kernels |
| 08:50.25 | hid3 | OK. Now I have both drivers compiled in. /proc/partitions shows me only the old names and ls /dev/ | grep sd gives nothing |
| 08:50.29 | E-bola | Agreed, why would u be changing away from cciss? |
| 08:50.35 | E-bola | Works fine for me on my proliant machines |
| 08:51.36 | *** join/#debian daya (~daya@202.63.242.180) |
| 08:53.10 | *** join/#debian Da_Wrecka (~da_wrecka@cpc4-live20-2-0-cust366.know.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 08:54.17 | hid3 | E-bola: works fine for me too but why not to try a new thing? At the moment I have a test machine so I wanna test the new one ;-) Developers promised cciss will be dropped later! |
| 08:54.30 | *** join/#debian jm (jm@epicsol.org) |
| 08:54.44 | E-bola | hehe ok, do u know if the new one is supposed to be faster or any other nice improvements? |
| 08:54.53 | hid3 | jelly-home: well, I almost always make my own custom kernel. I like how fast it spins |
| 08:54.56 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@212.51.167.181) |
| 08:54.58 | *** join/#debian Jippi_mac (~jippignu@adam.mocsystems.com) |
| 08:55.06 | hid3 | Nope. That's what I wanna test |
| 08:55.52 | jelly-home | hid3: it... spins? |
| 08:56.36 | hid3 | well. English is not my native language. This is a translation from my native. We have an expression 'spins'. Means 'run' in pure English |
| 08:56.49 | jelly-home | hid3: you will have to disable the old driver to allow the new one to bind the device |
| 08:56.57 | hid3 | so read spins=runs if you feel better ;-) |
| 08:57.27 | *** join/#debian mrshiny (~mrshiny@d110-33-71-85.mit6.act.optusnet.com.au) |
| 08:57.32 | hid3 | jelly-home: yeah, I know. But I don't know what should I put to my /etc/fstab and grub instead of /dev/cciss/... |
| 08:57.43 | hid3 | putting /dev/sda* doesn't work ;( |
| 08:57.48 | *** join/#debian erin2 (~erin@19.180.101.97.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 08:58.05 | hid3 | leaving cciss stuff doesn't work either |
| 08:58.11 | *** join/#debian LaptopBrain (~brain@cpc2-mapp3-0-0-cust318.nott.cable.ntl.com) |
| 08:58.12 | jelly-home | hid3: it obviously won't work while cciss still takes precedence |
| 08:58.19 | *** join/#debian Yu\2 (~Yu@2001:638:504:f1f6:213:77ff:feb6:afb0) |
| 08:58.34 | *** join/#debian CrashFr (~CrashFr@AAubervilliers-151-1-55-232.w83-112.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 08:58.59 | jelly-home | hid3: read about boot parameters for cciss. |
| 08:59.05 | *** join/#debian kaziem (~devnull@159.23.106.243) |
| 09:00.46 | jelly-home | "modinfo cciss" on my distribution kernel says there's an interesting parameter for the cciss module preventing it to bind devices that work with hpsa |
| 09:02.09 | hid3 | Mine show nothing useful. Where did you find it? |
| 09:02.24 | jelly-home | hid3: of course, use the source Luke |
| 09:02.39 | jelly-home | hid3: since you compiled that stuff in instead of as module, I suspect you'll have to use it as a boot parameter, cciss_allow_hpsa=1 or cciss.cciss_allow_hpsa=1 |
| 09:02.56 | *** join/#debian roger21 (~roger21@helloworld.homelinux.org) |
| 09:03.37 | roger21 | hi, what is the file where i set up the delay for blank screen |
| 09:03.39 | *** join/#debian ehc (~evan@174-30-7-152.eugn.qwest.net) |
| 09:03.40 | *** join/#debian factor (~factor@ip70-177-95-241.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 09:03.47 | hid3 | Worth a try! |
| 09:04.22 | *** join/#debian Xilent (~Karsten@pdpc/supporter/active/xilent) |
| 09:04.53 | factor | I was trying to connect my debian box directly to the COX cable modem and cant get the DHCP client to work, what is the best method to do this. I can get it to work via the linksys router. |
| 09:04.59 | *** join/#debian Selveste1____ (~Selveste1@88.83.86.20.static.dong.customer.smilecontent.dk) |
| 09:06.54 | *** join/#debian sergejh (~sergej@141.71.80.242) |
| 09:07.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 888] by debhelper |
| 09:08.24 | *** join/#debian Josh`` (~Josh@c-98-201-51-182.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 09:09.01 | Josh`` | Is there a way to view the version information for my currently installed lirc package, and show the version information for the one in my repos, if different? |
| 09:09.19 | Internat | apt-cache show lirc |
| 09:09.24 | Internat | and then goto packages.debian.org |
| 09:09.37 | *** join/#debian Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424744.home.otenet.gr) |
| 09:10.02 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@20158129068.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 09:10.18 | Josh`` | Internat, an upgraded version will show in packages.debian.org, even if it's in a third party repo, such as debian-multimedia.org? |
| 09:10.24 | Internat | no |
| 09:10.43 | Internat | debian-multimedia.org however has a package search function as well |
| 09:11.03 | Josh`` | I'm specifically looking for lirc 0.8.6 or higher |
| 09:11.34 | Internat | thats not what you asked.. |
| 09:11.51 | Josh`` | Internat, I'm sorry, I know. |
| 09:12.00 | Josh`` | just giving a little background information :) |
| 09:12.08 | Internat | but |
| 09:12.18 | Internat | if you check say packages.debian.org it'll tell you whats in testing/unstable |
| 09:12.28 | Josh`` | apt-get install lirc wants to install a new version, just wondering which version it's wwanting to install |
| 09:12.31 | *** join/#debian master_of_master (~master_of@p57B55EDA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:12.31 | Internat | you may find a version there.. although i make no recomendations for installing something from it |
| 09:12.40 | Arrowmaster | judd versions lirc |
| 09:12.42 | judd | lirc -- etch: 0.8.0-9.2; lenny: 0.8.3-3; sid: 0.8.3-5; squeeze: 0.8.3-5 |
| 09:13.12 | Josh`` | I wonder why the default repos are still at 0.9.3 |
| 09:13.14 | Josh`` | er |
| 09:13.16 | Josh`` | 0.8.3 |
| 09:13.29 | jelly-home | !tell Josh`` about ssb |
| 09:13.32 | jelly-home | !tell Josh`` about uupdate |
| 09:14.06 | Josh`` | Even if it's in testing, I *need* lirc 0.8.6 or higher. I'm currently running compiled source from the upstream project |
| 09:14.08 | *** join/#debian Sia- (~sia@unaffiliated/desian) |
| 09:14.16 | jelly-home | Josh``: uupdate can help when making a backport of a version not packaged yet |
| 09:14.26 | Josh`` | hmm |
| 09:14.41 | Josh`` | it may have already been done though. Let me check debian-multimedia.org first |
| 09:14.49 | *** join/#debian krion (~seb@unaffiliated/krion) |
| 09:14.54 | *** join/#debian verwilst (~verwilst@router.begen1.office.netnoc.eu) |
| 09:16.26 | *** join/#debian pierreghz (~pierre@cust-29-121-111-94.dyn.as47377.net) |
| 09:16.40 | *** join/#debian ExodusC (~Exodus@129.252.177.65) |
| 09:18.18 | *** join/#debian myu2 (~myu2@161.90.128.210.bf.2iij.net) |
| 09:19.09 | Josh`` | bleh, apparently it's not in debian-multimedia.org either |
| 09:23.28 | *** join/#debian rakia (~wish@78.90.135.241) |
| 09:23.43 | *** join/#debian Teknotik (~TK@c-24-23-27-71.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:23.59 | *** join/#debian Gurty (~princess@93.15.226.112) |
| 09:24.20 | *** join/#debian slug (shadeTree@219.70.222.126) |
| 09:29.01 | *** join/#debian themill (~stuart@unaffiliated/themill) |
| 09:29.30 | *** join/#debian darkskiez (~dz@62-50-207-166.client.stsn.net) |
| 09:29.53 | *** join/#debian Nurbs (nurbs@nurbs.nu) |
| 09:29.53 | *** join/#debian Muhammad (~Karmic@unaffiliated/eng1n33r) |
| 09:30.04 | *** part/#debian roger21 (~roger21@helloworld.homelinux.org) |
| 09:31.45 | Josh`` | !tell Josh`` about backports |
| 09:32.17 | *** join/#debian uofm49426 (~daniel@24-180-120-255.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) |
| 09:32.38 | Kamping_Kaiser | dpkg: tell Josh`` about message the bot |
| 09:32.56 | *** join/#debian hideo (~irc@c-98-252-172-73.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 09:32.59 | Josh`` | ahh, thanks |
| 09:33.42 | uofm49426 | using dreamlinux base on lenny need help |
| 09:33.54 | *** join/#debian hideo (~irc@c-98-252-172-73.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 09:34.05 | jelly | Josh``: judd would have known if it were present in d-m |
| 09:34.42 | Josh`` | jelly: who's judd? |
| 09:34.59 | jelly | judd: versions lirc |
| 09:35.00 | judd | lirc -- etch: 0.8.0-9.2; lenny: 0.8.3-3; sid: 0.8.3-5; squeeze: 0.8.3-5 |
| 09:35.00 | uofm49426 | problem with all ati 9.3 fglrx |
| 09:35.06 | Josh`` | ahh, gotcha |
| 09:35.08 | *** join/#debian x3cu710n3r (~whatever@74.195.16.62.customer.cdi.no) |
| 09:35.09 | jelly | judd: versions mplayer |
| 09:35.10 | judd | mplayer -- etch: 1.0~rc1-12etch5; etch-security: 1.0~rc1-12etch7; lenny: 1.0~rc2-17+lenny3; sid: 1.0~rc3+svn20090405-1+b1; squeeze: 1.0~rc3+svn20090405-1+b1; etch-multimedia: 1:1.0-rc1svn20070225-0.3etch1; lenny-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20080706-0.1lenny1; squeeze-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20100219-0.0; sid-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20100313-0.0 |
| 09:35.20 | Josh`` | I see. |
| 09:35.40 | *** join/#debian andyeb-- (~andyeb@andyebling.plus.com) |
| 09:35.54 | uofm49426 | first using the run package |
| 09:35.55 | *** join/#debian alus (~gah@64.13.131.178) |
| 09:36.19 | Josh`` | it's not in backports, bleh, not looking good |
| 09:36.35 | uofm49426 | and the one on repo channel |
| 09:36.42 | themill | uofm49426: I think you want #dreamlinux on irc.freenode.net. |
| 09:37.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 882] by debhelper |
| 09:37.01 | *** join/#debian Meise (~meise@gw-2s00.inf.fh-bonn-rhein-sieg.de) |
| 09:37.24 | *** join/#debian ndrs__ (~andres@84-203-45-145.mysmart.ie) |
| 09:37.39 | alus | I'm trying to compile a package to get non-stripped binaries |
| 09:38.12 | uofm49426 | seems like we i use them like when i play movies like avi mpg wmv any video using vlc or totem turn out a green pivture |
| 09:38.24 | *** join/#debian pvc (~omega@c-75-70-165-105.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 09:38.24 | NiLon | so I have one NIC and I have dhcp working on network, now I would like to get this same nick to get 2 ip's to same card so should I add "iface eth0:1 inet dhcp" and except it to work? |
| 09:38.28 | NiLon | http://nopaste.php-q.net/274522 there's my current conf |
| 09:38.37 | alus | after running "debuild -uc -us" I get a binary which is not stripped, but after dpkg -i foo.deb installing the deb, I get a stripped binary |
| 09:38.44 | alus | so, what is stripping the binary? |
| 09:39.50 | uofm49426 | seems like when i use them like when i play movies like avi mpg wmv any video using vlc or totem turn out a green pivture |
| 09:39.58 | *** join/#debian Coweater (coweater@pool-173-74-130-28.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) |
| 09:40.08 | themill | alus: you probably want to set "DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nostrip" in the build environment. If the package is using debhelper, then it will be stripped while sticking everything into the .deb |
| 09:40.15 | *** join/#debian tarik_ (~chatzilla@ll81-2-254-161-192-81.ll81-2.iam.net.ma) |
| 09:40.20 | jelly | alus: are you saying the installed binary isn't the same as the one present in created .deb package? |
| 09:40.23 | *** join/#debian pierreghz (~pierre@cust-29-121-111-94.dyn.as47377.net) |
| 09:40.52 | *** join/#debian madi (~madi@unaffiliated/madi) |
| 09:41.17 | uofm49426 | seems like when i use them "drivers" when i play movies like avi mpg wmv any video using vlc or totem turn out a green picture |
| 09:42.08 | *** join/#debian tarik__ (~chatzilla@41.140.248.167) |
| 09:42.56 | alus | jelly: no, I'm saying the one present in ./debian/usr/bin is stripped (and put in to the .deb, and installed) but the one built in ./ is not |
| 09:43.06 | uofm49426 | seems like when i use them "ati drivers" when i play movies like avi mpg wmv any video using vlc or totem turn out a green picture |
| 09:43.26 | alus | themill: I see "include /usr/share/cdbs/1/rules/debhelper.mk" in the ./debian/rules |
| 09:44.07 | *** join/#debian mon8 (~yoda@cpc1-lanc5-0-0-cust959.brig.cable.ntl.com) |
| 09:44.12 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.77) |
| 09:44.45 | *** join/#debian spectre- (~n900@41.210.191.6) |
| 09:45.33 | uofm49426 | have ati xpress 1200 and fglrx 9.3 last driver for pre xserver 1.6 |
| 09:45.41 | uofm49426 | seems like when i use them "ati drivers" when i play movies like avi mpg wmv any video using vlc or totem turn out a green picture |
| 09:45.54 | *** join/#debian flo` (~flo@p54999823.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:45.55 | flo` | hi |
| 09:46.21 | themill | uofm49426: I still think you want #dreamlinux on irc.freenode.net. |
| 09:46.35 | *** join/#debian smeea (~smeea@89.163.26.137) |
| 09:46.41 | flo` | i installed squeeze, evince and various other nice programs, but when downloading a file with iceweasel, it doesn't offer me to open these files in those programs |
| 09:46.53 | themill | alus: then it's most likely that it's dh_strip that's doing the stripping, although I normally run a mile from cdbs... |
| 09:46.56 | *** join/#debian pico (~quassel@0x5da56406.cpe.ge-1-2-0-1109.odnqu1.customer.tele.dk) |
| 09:46.56 | flo` | i have to set up it all alone... is there a way to do that automatically? |
| 09:47.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 889] by debhelper |
| 09:47.13 | themill | prefers perl-based magic to makefile-based magic |
| 09:47.27 | alus | themill: I see no "dh_strip" mentioned in rules |
| 09:47.44 | alus | I don't see the word "strip" anywhere, actually |
| 09:48.22 | themill | alus: hence my allusion to "magic". It probably gets called automagically somewhere towards the end of the build sequence. Your build log should show that. |
| 09:48.26 | *** join/#debian tools (~tom@ipx20310.ipxserver.de) |
| 09:48.37 | *** join/#debian solow (Solow@d54C2365C.access.telenet.be) |
| 09:48.38 | uofm49426 | you know of a why i can purge the all the drivers and start again |
| 09:48.43 | *** join/#debian manio (~mariusz@chello087206169146.chello.pl) |
| 09:48.50 | tools | hi all.. what's the recommended place to create vcs repos on a server? |
| 09:48.59 | *** part/#debian solow (Solow@d54C2365C.access.telenet.be) |
| 09:49.01 | tools | /var/lib/<myrepo> ? |
| 09:49.41 | alus | themill: ah, indeed. there is dh_strip in the build log |
| 09:50.40 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@ghenry.plus.com) |
| 09:50.40 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/ghenry) |
| 09:50.40 | alus | themill: so is DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nostrip likely to work to prevent that? |
| 09:50.50 | *** join/#debian TomyLobo (~foo@port-212-202-171-135.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 09:50.58 | uofm49426 | including anything from the ati driver intaller from ati web site |
| 09:51.47 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) |
| 09:52.39 | *** join/#debian adam8157 (~adam@221.236.57.55) |
| 09:53.59 | *** join/#debian Rothgar (~admin@ppp201-15.static.internode.on.net) |
| 09:55.23 | *** join/#debian Selveste1____ (~Selveste1@cpe.atm2-0-1171062.alb2nxx15.customer.tele.dk) |
| 09:57.26 | *** join/#debian antgel (~topdog@bzq-79-180-48-213.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 09:57.37 | *** join/#debian nader (~nader___@84.241.18.131) |
| 09:58.37 | *** join/#debian wr| (~wr@pD4B9E3A7.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:59.15 | Josh`` | grr. Having a hell of a time getting an lirc-0.8.6 package built |
| 10:00.04 | Josh`` | Trying to do it with dpkg's way, of using uupdate to update the existing source with the stuff in the newest 'stable' upstream tarball |
| 10:00.42 | *** join/#debian Ergo^ (~ergo@pc-55018.zdnet.com.pl) |
| 10:01.26 | Josh`` | ggetting the error: http://pastebin.ca/1841053 |
| 10:02.18 | themill | alus: yes. (man dh_strip for more details) |
| 10:02.31 | alus | themill: cool. thanks for your help! |
| 10:05.04 | *** join/#debian Dav3 (~Dav3@220-245-75-96.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 10:05.53 | *** join/#debian Joint (~BSD@adsl-77-147-155.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 10:06.11 | Josh`` | okay, got rid of all the patches from 0.8.3, it seems to be building now. (albeit vanilla) |
| 10:06.57 | Dav3 | Hello, I have a freshly installed debian system and am trying to mount an image (that was converted to raw image), how ever as it is LVM if I try and mount it only the boot partition will mount. Any ideas on how to mount it's root LVM (aka SLASH)? |
| 10:07.23 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.78) |
| 10:08.35 | *** join/#debian xlotlu (~john@188.26.196.250) |
| 10:08.39 | *** join/#debian Chaos`Eternal (~chaos@116.231.54.171) |
| 10:08.53 | lindi- | Dav3: you probably need to setup lvm first before you can mount it? |
| 10:09.28 | Josh`` | Dav3, I don't know anything about what you are doing, although I remember there were some difficulties getting root lvm partition to mount on a raid filesystem. Mabye google with the terms "lvm root filesystem" will help? |
| 10:09.55 | Dav3 | Will setting up LVM destroy my current servers layout? |
| 10:10.47 | Dav3 | as at the moment my systems layout are just individual partitions |
| 10:11.00 | Josh`` | Dav3, it depends on the method you choose. data backups are *always* suggested. |
| 10:12.26 | Dav3 | sounds extreamly risky just to try and mount an image of an LVM to a directory |
| 10:12.31 | *** join/#debian Astroman (~Astroman@78-86-137-77.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 10:12.45 | Josh`` | Dav3, the mounting itself isnt risky. |
| 10:12.51 | Josh`` | what's risky is you want to mount it on / |
| 10:13.03 | Dav3 | nooo lol |
| 10:13.06 | Dav3 | dont plan on that |
| 10:13.12 | Dav3 | want to mount it to a dir |
| 10:13.17 | Dav3 | to view data |
| 10:13.30 | Josh`` | ahh, sorry, I misread the question. |
| 10:14.18 | Dav3 | essentially I had a VM that was an LVM and I have converted it to a RAW image so I can try and mount and grab it's data |
| 10:14.27 | Dav3 | and restore on this machine |
| 10:14.38 | *** join/#debian anewbie (~anewbie@77.70.86.225) |
| 10:15.38 | *** join/#debian oblu (~oblu@ip-89-103-168-220.karneval.cz) |
| 10:16.13 | *** join/#debian zink (~zink@pc-121-227-100-190.cm.vtr.net) |
| 10:16.18 | Josh`` | mount -o loop logvol.img /dir/you/want/harddrive/data/to/show/up/in ? |
| 10:16.44 | Dav3 | that will only mount the /boot which was EXT2 |
| 10:16.59 | anewbie | hello there i have a problem with matrox g400 videocard i cant set my resolution to higher values and the xinerama option don't work i see that there is no build in driver and try to install the driver from the matrox site |
| 10:17.08 | anewbie | but the installer say that my version ot X is not supported |
| 10:17.22 | anewbie | X.Org X Server 1.7.5 |
| 10:17.51 | *** join/#debian zxd (~marceloa@95.211.21.34) |
| 10:17.52 | zxd | hi |
| 10:17.55 | anewbie | i found something like how to in linuxquestions but there is a step that say to give the correct path to install of the driver i open the driver documentation |
| 10:18.02 | zxd | how do i use dpkg-query to list the package only if it is installed? |
| 10:18.19 | anewbie | where /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers this is given for correct path |
| 10:18.48 | anewbie | but i dont have directory such as /usr/X11R6 i .. browse little bit more and then find project named Xfree86 |
| 10:19.04 | anewbie | in that way of thinking ... i must change my default Xserver with Xfree86 ? |
| 10:19.22 | anewbie | or how i must proceed to have my video card working |
| 10:19.28 | *** join/#debian grandmoun (~piliman@encyclo014701-1-4.clients.easynet.fr) |
| 10:19.57 | Dav3 | zxd, try dpkg -l | grep <APP> |
| 10:21.07 | Dav3 | dpkg-query -W "<APP>" |
| 10:21.08 | Dav3 | also |
| 10:22.20 | zxd | Dav3, yes but it lists them even if it isn't installed dpkg-query -W |
| 10:22.31 | themill | !wayttd zxd |
| 10:22.31 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, zxd? |
| 10:22.34 | *** join/#debian praseodym (~mark@ch.its.tudelft.nl) |
| 10:22.44 | *** join/#debian jackz (~d@cc305009-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) |
| 10:22.57 | zxd | to check if a specific package is installed and working in a script |
| 10:23.03 | *** join/#debian Zylvain1 (~Zylvain@AToulouse-257-1-150-77.w90-5.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:23.08 | *** join/#debian Tiffon (~name@unaffiliated/tiff0n) |
| 10:23.08 | phaidros | hi, is there such a thing as PPAs in ubuntu for debian somewhere? |
| 10:23.19 | *** join/#debian Dbug (~Dbug@unaffiliated/dbug) |
| 10:23.21 | anewbie | zxd try with dpkg --get-selections <packege name> |
| 10:23.23 | *** join/#debian Holborn (~holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 10:24.10 | phaidros | actually I'd like to test latest gwibber for squeeze, but as the debian repos use quite outdated packages, I tried the lucid PPA, but the packages there complain about not having python2.6 at hand, when it actually uis already installed. |
| 10:24.12 | themill | zxd: don't you really want to check if the functionality is present instead? (e.g. /usr/bin/foo or /usr/local/bin/foo are present) |
| 10:24.24 | zxd | no |
| 10:24.25 | phaidros | so I believe it is all not so smart to mix the buntu and the debian world |
| 10:24.32 | *** join/#debian Ergo^ (~ergo@pc-55018.zdnet.com.pl) |
| 10:25.40 | anewbie | ahh :( and no one have answer for my matrox related question |
| 10:27.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 897] by debhelper |
| 10:27.06 | babilen | phaidros: correct |
| 10:27.22 | jelly | judd: versios gwibber |
| 10:27.24 | jelly | judd: versions gwibber |
| 10:27.25 | judd | gwibber -- sid: 1.2.0+bzr358-2; squeeze: 1.2.0+bzr358-2 |
| 10:27.35 | themill | zxd: if you want to know that it is installed *and* working as you say, then you need to correctly parse the status information either from dpkg-query. (Please tell me you're not writing Yet Another shitty non-free driver installer...) |
| 10:28.03 | jelly | phaidros: which debian release are you using? Do you need something newer than what's in sid? |
| 10:28.03 | phaidros | babilen: nice. and what does one do, if not wanting to abandon debian? |
| 10:28.16 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe2 (~havoc@SE400.PPPoE-5804.sa.bih.net.ba) |
| 10:28.19 | jelly | !tell phaidros about ssb |
| 10:28.21 | phaidros | jelly: using squeeze here, and the latest gwibber is not in sid yet |
| 10:28.23 | zxd | themill, if it's broken dpkg --get-selectiosn dosen't say? |
| 10:28.27 | jelly | !tell phaidros about uupdate |
| 10:29.09 | anewbie | does anyone know at least some way to put the x server in some generic mode at least to use some normal resolution i think if i stay in front of the monitor more then an hour i will be blind |
| 10:29.15 | themill | zxd: no, that's only about the user selections and has nothing to do with the state on disk. You can change those selections and absolutely nothing will happen until you ask apt to do something about them |
| 10:29.23 | phaidros | jelly: I actually do not want to build packages, I actually want to use repos. I can build my own repo, but nowadays alot of dev are making that effort already (via ppa) |
| 10:29.28 | babilen | phaidros: You can always built it yourself and install it to /usr/local - stow helps to organise these local installations. There is also a tool called uupdate that eases updating a Debian package to a new upstream release. |
| 10:29.46 | phaidros | babilen: hehe, not my question ;) |
| 10:29.46 | jelly | phaidros: apart from making a local package with uupdate, file a wishlist bug for the newer version if not already there |
| 10:29.54 | *** join/#debian sdx23 (~sdx23@unaffiliated/sdx23) |
| 10:29.54 | phaidros | we should have a ppa like thing for debian .. |
| 10:29.58 | *** join/#debian ealdor (~ealdor@219.Red-79-159-14.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 10:30.10 | jelly | phaidros: Debian doesn't have a PPA-like infrastructure in place, yet |
| 10:30.16 | phaidros | jelly: is planned? |
| 10:30.21 | jelly | no idea |
| 10:30.23 | *** join/#debian amsterdam (~nixda@port-92-198-42-37.static.qsc.de) |
| 10:30.25 | themill | phaidros: so that debian can also have insanely crappy packages made by any random fool that other random fools will trust? |
| 10:30.35 | phaidros | I mean launchpad is supposed to be free |
| 10:30.51 | babilen | phaidros: What is wrong with that approach though? |
| 10:31.05 | zxd | themill, I am trying to grep installed from the output of dpkg-query but it also matches "not-installed" |
| 10:31.05 | *** join/#debian anewbie (~anewbie@77.70.86.225) |
| 10:31.20 | zxd | themill, do you know an argument that matches whole words seperated with spaces |
| 10:31.34 | phaidros | themill: well, if one uses random fools packages -> own choice. there is always dpkg -r. but having devs being able to server e.g. trunk packages on their own is sweet imho. |
| 10:32.00 | themill | zxd: "install ok installed" is the correct status |
| 10:32.10 | phaidros | babilen: not wrong, but imho anacronistic. not necesary |
| 10:32.21 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 10:32.36 | lindi- | phaidros: upstream usually doesn't do packaking correctly, they don't provide source code for example |
| 10:32.42 | phaidros | babilen: don't get me wrong here, but ubuntu shows with launchpad how crowdsourcing can be integrated in a distro .. |
| 10:32.43 | *** join/#debian Trewas (ilonen@jumi.lut.fi) |
| 10:33.08 | zxd | themill, groovey |
| 10:33.11 | phaidros | and not only fools' packages but as well quality repos |
| 10:33.50 | jelly | PPA are not really "quality" anything in general, it's literally a buildd for anyone |
| 10:34.02 | themill | phaidros: and since the average punter on the street can't tell the good from the bad from the downright malicious,... |
| 10:34.37 | jelly | themill: perhaps we could seed a couple PPAs with nice looking trojans! |
| 10:35.10 | phaidros | ohmy .. |
| 10:35.12 | jelly | "This newest pidgin will work well, and will also replace your ubuntu with debian on midnight UTC 2010-04-01" |
| 10:35.20 | phaidros | you guys seem a little narrow minded |
| 10:35.21 | phaidros | sry |
| 10:35.53 | phaidros | a mature user can have choice. that is good. not bad. |
| 10:36.10 | lindi- | phaidros: i've just hit so many broken packages from upstreams, i don't think debian should recommend that |
| 10:36.13 | *** join/#debian ishi (~ishi@81.210.48.58) |
| 10:36.17 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@84.28.246.30) |
| 10:36.31 | ishi | hello |
| 10:36.43 | jelly | phaidros: mind you, I think PPA is great |
| 10:37.18 | jelly | phaidros: the trust issues are nothing to laugh about, though |
| 10:38.27 | ishi | I'm trying to create a .deb package. When I check it later, I get several errors (no surprise there). What bothers me is this particular error: file-in-usr-local |
| 10:39.58 | ishi | I *want* the file to be in /usr/local --- is there no way around? I have to change my mind to make lintian happy, or is there some magic trick, which can assure lintian that /usr/local *is* ok? |
| 10:40.12 | *** join/#debian Jckf (~Jckf@jimckf-2-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 10:40.25 | babilen | ishi: Read up on overrides in lintian |
| 10:41.14 | phaidros | jelly: then again, who uses PPA for production critical infrastructure is on his/her own |
| 10:41.15 | babilen | ishi: http://lintian.debian.org/manual/ch2.html (Sec. 2.4) |
| 10:41.16 | ishi | oh... you mean, I could use some switch for lintian so that it ignores some kind of errors? That's not what I'm after... I could | grep -v it ;)... Or even not run lintian at all :) |
| 10:41.17 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@unaffiliated/salvin) |
| 10:41.22 | ishi | but /me reads :) |
| 10:41.34 | Jckf | When using htop, can I see which file php-cgi is executing? |
| 10:41.58 | babilen | ishi: That's basically "the magic trick that assures lintian that /usr/local is OK" :) |
| 10:42.23 | phaidros | well, so I gotta build that thing on my own, grmbl |
| 10:42.27 | dutchfish | Jckf: if you let htop only show active proceses and it runs long enough |
| 10:43.46 | Jckf | dutchfish: How? Now it only shows that php-cgi is running, but no arguments |
| 10:44.14 | dutchfish | Jckf: i think htop is not what you are after for that purpose |
| 10:44.52 | themill | ishi: the basic assumption that debian makes is that it doesn't touch things in /usr/local/ and lintian helps make sure that is the case. If this is truly a local-only package and you're happy to break that convention, then just add the lintian override so that you don't have to see it. |
| 10:45.16 | *** join/#debian jrib (~jrib@upstream/dev/jrib) |
| 10:45.22 | dutchfish | Jckf: php-log whould be a better option |
| 10:46.07 | dutchfish | Jckf: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/php-log |
| 10:46.38 | *** join/#debian Shaytan (~eric@c-13bfe355.025-19-73746f29.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 10:46.55 | ishi | ok, thx :) |
| 10:47.06 | ishi | yes, it's a local-only package :) |
| 10:47.17 | *** join/#debian bbu (~bbu@elara.hi.pengutronix.de) |
| 10:47.23 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) |
| 10:47.50 | *** join/#debian cads (~max@75.139.140.247) |
| 10:48.30 | *** join/#debian K0JIbKA (~nikobit@87.251.137.33) |
| 10:48.37 | *** join/#debian xingu (~xingu@cl-1387.ams-04.nl.sixxs.net) |
| 10:51.10 | dutchfish | Jckf: if you want stats then maybe this is for you: http://forge.bearstech.com/trac/wiki/PhpTop |
| 10:51.11 | *** join/#debian terrygardner (~terrygard@12.130.119.96) |
| 10:51.21 | Josh`` | Does anyone know of a CLI command to pull the display out of sleep mode? |
| 10:51.46 | Jckf | dutchfish <3 |
| 10:51.48 | *** join/#debian MIOW (~mjau@109.205.248.16) |
| 10:54.03 | *** join/#debian Posterdati (~tapioca@host150-223-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 10:54.08 | MIOW | hello :) anyone knows if WebÑam Logitech QuickCam C120 works with Debian Squeeze? |
| 10:54.29 | *** join/#debian Acony (~aleksanda@cable-89-216-141-10.dynamic.sbb.rs) |
| 10:55.49 | alus | themill: $ set | grep -i strip #=> DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nostrip |
| 10:55.58 | alus | themill: however, dh_strip still stripped the binaries |
| 10:56.39 | themill | alus: are you building within a different environment (e.g. going into a chroot or using sudo) |
| 10:56.57 | alus | oh, sudo |
| 10:57.28 | themill | alus: sudo eats your environment. It's one of the ways it helps keep up the illusion of security. |
| 10:57.44 | alus | ok. sudo bash it is |
| 10:58.27 | themill | may as well just su - at that stage |
| 10:58.47 | alus | I don't have su privledges |
| 10:59.05 | *** join/#debian blast_hardcheese (~blast_har@dsl092-043-124.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 10:59.39 | themill | alus: if you can "sudo bash" then you can give them to yourself in about 20 seconds work... |
| 10:59.41 | *** join/#debian zippy (~zuppy@xdslha001.osnanet.de) |
| 10:59.58 | alus | but they are not automatically given. |
| 10:59.58 | *** join/#debian lithium (~bLack@85.97.24.247) |
| 11:00.07 | *** part/#debian lithium (~bLack@85.97.24.247) |
| 11:00.09 | alus | so I'm going to spend that 20 seconds fetching another beer instead |
| 11:00.30 | *** join/#debian buntfalke (~nobody@unaffiliated/buntfalke) |
| 11:00.32 | nsadmin | ahh... so you don't care... |
| 11:00.43 | *** join/#debian cantido (dgp@ukato.freeshell.org) |
| 11:01.03 | K0JIbKA | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:01.12 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 11:01.16 | *** join/#debian pif (~ldm@zenon.apartia.fr) |
| 11:02.52 | *** join/#debian SYN4PS3 (~chatzilla@188.158.99.191) |
| 11:02.57 | cantido | K0JIbKA: if the disc is mounted you wont be able to eject it.. |
| 11:03.32 | K0JIbKA | well it did not make any problem. $ eject -m |
| 11:04.02 | *** join/#debian thunderstrike (~thunderst@60.254.57.12) |
| 11:04.08 | cantido | K0JIbKA: but the installer isn't see that you changed the disc? did you mount the new disk? |
| 11:04.21 | alus | nsadmin: I care very much about having a system which is easy to use. that also means when it gets difficult, I stop caring about it |
| 11:04.47 | K0JIbKA | well I didn't and installation process did not completed it's action |
| 11:04.52 | *** join/#debian anewbie (~anewbie@77.70.86.225) |
| 11:05.02 | cantido | maybe ask in #wine |
| 11:05.04 | *** join/#debian martiancode (~martianix@unaffiliated/martiancode) |
| 11:05.29 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 11:05.30 | K0JIbKA | cantido: done. silence |
| 11:05.49 | cantido | K0JIbKA: theres nothing in the console from wine? |
| 11:06.34 | *** join/#debian lordlamer (~fhaberman@f054008055.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 11:06.42 | *** join/#debian nhandler (~nhandler@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nhandler) |
| 11:07.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 908] by debhelper |
| 11:08.54 | nsadmin | alus then, if this is something you use for business and it's of value, you may need to hire a consultant |
| 11:11.15 | alus | nsadmin: doesn't seem that way |
| 11:12.05 | *** join/#debian martianixor (~martianix@unaffiliated/martiancode) |
| 11:12.19 | *** join/#debian rakia (~wish@78.90.135.241) |
| 11:12.34 | alus | nsadmin: I'm making software, for the public, for free. that's of value to people |
| 11:13.12 | alus | nsadmin: but, I only have a limited amount of time to work on that software. I don't have time to much with hard to use systems |
| 11:13.39 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@84.28.246.30) |
| 11:13.44 | alus | sudo bash works. so, I use it. |
| 11:15.09 | *** join/#debian SiNiESTrO (~siniestro@179.Red-80-33-148.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:15.29 | *** join/#debian ed1703 (~ed1703@ultra.edgonline.nl) |
| 11:15.30 | anewbie | ahh this is impossible does anyone here have a matrox videocard :( |
| 11:16.07 | nsadmin | a long lonnnnng time ago |
| 11:16.19 | Josh`` | anewbie, sorry buddy, nvidia all the way |
| 11:16.24 | alus | I have one in a box |
| 11:16.35 | Josh`` | even an old nvidia card will ease your frustration considerably |
| 11:16.40 | alus | it's a nice one. one of the three or four head cards |
| 11:16.46 | anewbie | i have nvidia too but she have too broken capacitors now and now have only that old matrox |
| 11:16.51 | anewbie | and just can't get it work |
| 11:17.16 | Josh`` | stupid stupid irexec |
| 11:17.25 | anewbie | now i will try to replace the xserver with xfree86 |
| 11:17.26 | Josh`` | you load on system startup, but won't respond to commands! |
| 11:17.29 | anewbie | this is my only hope |
| 11:17.38 | Josh`` | yet, when restarted, you work normally |
| 11:17.47 | nsadmin | anewbie: just to save some time... maybe you have to buy a video card |
| 11:17.48 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@84.28.246.30) |
| 11:17.54 | anewbie | i am so stuck |
| 11:17.54 | Josh`` | Why must you taunt me so? |
| 11:18.17 | anewbie | nsadmin, yes that's sure but i can't stay without a PC i have stuff to do ... |
| 11:18.44 | anewbie | infact the last two days everything was fine this morning i wake up |
| 11:18.46 | Josh`` | anewbie, surely you can't just use framebuffer xorg for the time being? |
| 11:19.07 | anewbie | framebuffer xorg |
| 11:19.08 | anewbie | ... ? |
| 11:19.36 | *** join/#debian amsterdam (~nixda@port-92-198-42-37.static.qsc.de) |
| 11:19.56 | Josh`` | use the video driver fbdev |
| 11:19.59 | *** join/#debian hanke (~michael@c-24-60-237-131.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) |
| 11:20.02 | *** join/#debian morlenxus (~morlenxus@enlightenment/developer/morlenxus) |
| 11:20.32 | anewbie | hmm insteed of mga |
| 11:20.32 | anewbie | .. |
| 11:20.35 | anewbie | ok i will try that |
| 11:20.45 | Josh`` | you won't have any video accelleration, but it should work |
| 11:20.47 | *** join/#debian solar_sea (~solar@85.14.14.82) |
| 11:20.50 | *** join/#debian dinya_ (~Denis@94.50.8.208) |
| 11:20.56 | Josh`` | assuming you have the fbdev driver installed |
| 11:21.02 | morlenxus | So i'm using 2.6.26-2-xen-686 and can't load the drbd module, is there an upcoming update for this kernel too? |
| 11:21.26 | K0JIbKA | cantido: Nope. All that's happening is Steam install asking for another disk |
| 11:21.34 | *** join/#debian Anubisss (Anubisss@ip-167-214-userpool.zeg.zelkanet.hu) |
| 11:21.45 | anewbie | yep me too |
| 11:21.51 | anewbie | wait to try |
| 11:22.07 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@84.28.246.30) |
| 11:22.58 | *** join/#debian martianixor (~martianix@unaffiliated/martiancode) |
| 11:23.19 | *** join/#debian ania_ (~ania@cpc1-wolv4-0-0-cust347.wolv.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 11:23.26 | *** join/#debian bdeferme (~bert@music.is.paradize.be) |
| 11:23.57 | morlenxus | Any help with drbd and xen kernel? |
| 11:25.07 | morlenxus | hm |
| 11:25.12 | Ashley^ | alt+f4 |
| 11:25.20 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@84.28.246.30) |
| 11:25.33 | *** part/#debian hanke (~michael@c-24-60-237-131.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) |
| 11:25.43 | *** join/#debian manicman (~manicman@tiliacordata.informatik.uni-bremen.de) |
| 11:25.43 | *** join/#debian manicman (~manicman@unaffiliated/manicman) |
| 11:26.24 | *** join/#debian greenmang0 (~abhishek@unaffiliated/greenmang0) |
| 11:27.09 | anewbie | Josh``, ... what's the corrcet name of the driver |
| 11:27.19 | anewbie | i try modprob fbdev modprob fbdev_drv |
| 11:27.23 | anewbie | but there is no such |
| 11:27.34 | anewbie | and i have one in /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers |
| 11:27.36 | *** join/#debian AppDeb (~AppDeb@77.49.247.157.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 11:27.38 | anewbie | fbdev_drv.so |
| 11:27.46 | anewbie | i try modprob fbdev_drv too |
| 11:27.52 | anewbie | but .... module not found |
| 11:28.33 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@84.28.246.30) |
| 11:28.55 | *** join/#debian Muhammad (~Karmic@193.227.50.51) |
| 11:28.58 | *** join/#debian Muhammad (~Karmic@unaffiliated/eng1n33r) |
| 11:29.36 | Josh`` | anewbie, I belive it goes in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, not modprobe |
| 11:30.03 | *** join/#debian Dewi (~dewi@sh.disobedi.net) |
| 11:30.23 | anewbie | ahh and thats the funy part thre xorgserver provided by squeeze does not have xorg.conf |
| 11:30.28 | *** join/#debian ia (~ia@89.169.161.244) |
| 11:30.36 | anewbie | i read in the documentation that i can generate one |
| 11:30.44 | babilen | !xorg config squeeze |
| 11:30.45 | dpkg | From squeeze onwards, you can often use an <empty xorg.conf>. Configure your keyboard layout for both X and console in /etc/default/console-setup or "dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" (not xorg.conf). If you have further things you wish to configure, use "X -configure" ("X -configure :1" if server is already active) to produce a xorg.conf template. Ask me about <xorg hal>. http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/InputHotplugGuide |
| 11:30.58 | Josh`` | anewbie, yeah.. do that. default xorg does not need xorg.conf, it usually autodetects properly |
| 11:31.43 | *** join/#debian jpinx-eeepc (~johnp@190.232.141.161) |
| 11:32.05 | anewbie | usualy if you are not me :D ok |
| 11:32.08 | anewbie | i will try that |
| 11:33.21 | ishi | how can I create a .deb with params? Say, I'd like to 'ask' for a database password during installation, and be able to use the supplied value and store it in some configuration files... |
| 11:33.31 | azeem_ | ishi: look into debconf |
| 11:34.50 | themill | ishi: there's a package dbconfig-common that is designed to help with this quite common set of tasks |
| 11:35.29 | ishi | thx :) |
| 11:36.09 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) |
| 11:36.37 | *** join/#debian km0ti0n (~km0ti0n@84.252.238.130) |
| 11:39.16 | *** join/#debian Selveste1____ (~Selveste1@cpe.atm2-0-1171062.alb2nxx15.customer.tele.dk) |
| 11:39.25 | *** join/#debian Dewi (~dewi@sh.disobedi.net) |
| 11:40.06 | *** join/#debian anewbie (~anewbie@77.70.86.225) |
| 11:40.26 | anewbie | <anewbie> hah ok ... /dev/fb0: No such file or directory |
| 11:43.32 | *** join/#debian Dewi (~dewi@sh.disobedi.net) |
| 11:43.57 | Josh`` | anewbie, 'apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-fbdev" |
| 11:44.03 | *** join/#debian IdleOne (~IdleOne@unaffiliated/idleone) |
| 11:45.18 | *** join/#debian supastuff (~user@91-113-74-220.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 11:45.19 | *** join/#debian obiwahn (~heini@obiwahn.org) |
| 11:46.04 | anewbie | i have it |
| 11:46.04 | anewbie | :( |
| 11:46.31 | *** join/#debian echa (~echa@170.252.64.1) |
| 11:46.35 | anewbie | already the newset version |
| 11:46.58 | supastuff | hi. I have two questions about the debian installer, specifically netboot flavor: 1. is there a version that can create ext4 filesystems? (I'm using installer-amd64/current/images/ as of yesterday, doesn't have the functionality) 2. is there a way to decide on different partition sizes during the lvm partition setup? |
| 11:47.16 | supastuff | the reason I want ext4, is that the install is on an SSD, and I'd later after install turn the journals off. |
| 11:47.58 | IdleOne | Morning all |
| 11:48.04 | IdleOne | can someone give a quick explanation or point me to a wiki about the score that I get sometimes when doing updates/upgrades? |
| 11:48.14 | *** part/#debian echa (~echa@170.252.64.1) |
| 11:48.16 | supastuff | score? |
| 11:48.31 | IdleOne | example: I got score is 119 after doing a dist-upgrade this morning |
| 11:48.48 | supastuff | been doing dist upgrades almost daily for years, but I can't say I encountered a score? |
| 11:49.29 | babilen | IdleOne: The score is based on a metric for the "invasiveness" of certain actions. It is computed with a set of heuristics - These heuristics penalise package removal, upgrades, ... |
| 11:49.54 | *** join/#debian Dewi (~dewi@sh.disobedi.net) |
| 11:49.56 | IdleOne | babilen: so a Higher score is worse then a lower one? |
| 11:50.04 | *** join/#debian dinya_ (~Denis@94.50.8.208) |
| 11:50.11 | babilen | IdleOne: fsvo "worse" :) |
| 11:50.19 | supastuff | anyone know when about 2.6.33 is out in unstable? |
| 11:50.29 | IdleOne | fsvo? don't know that acronym |
| 11:50.38 | babilen | IdleOne: "for some values of" |
| 11:50.43 | *** join/#debian echa (~echa@170.252.64.1) |
| 11:51.11 | babilen | IdleOne: *You* shouldn't decide based on the score. Just pick whatever actions suit your needs. |
| 11:51.19 | dutchfish | IdleOne: aptitude in interactive mode will show you the obselete packages btw comfortably and how they interelate. |
| 11:51.20 | *** join/#debian dinya_ (~Denis@94.50.8.208) |
| 11:51.39 | *** join/#debian NoNaMeNo (~NoNaMeNo@tb213-185-227-85.cust.teknikbyran.com) |
| 11:52.02 | echa | hi, is there a way of running macchanger in the debian-installer after boot? I'm on a network that allows internet access via a proxy only to specific pre-registered MACs |
| 11:52.20 | IdleOne | ok thank you folks. appreciate the quick response :) |
| 11:52.34 | themill | supastuff: not until after squeeze is released, most likely |
| 11:52.38 | supastuff | echa: you can change the mac by running ifconfig, try to run that from another terminal |
| 11:52.48 | echa | ok |
| 11:52.51 | echa | will give it a go |
| 11:52.53 | echa | thanks |
| 11:53.04 | *** join/#debian brbrbr (~basiley@89.208.116.17) |
| 11:53.08 | *** part/#debian IdleOne (~IdleOne@unaffiliated/idleone) |
| 11:53.29 | supastuff | echa: something like ifconfig eth0 hw ether xx:xx:xx:... |
| 11:53.55 | *** part/#debian morlenxus (~morlenxus@enlightenment/developer/morlenxus) |
| 11:54.04 | *** join/#debian brbrbr (~basiley@89.208.116.17) |
| 11:54.09 | *** join/#debian dinya_ (~Denis@94.50.8.208) |
| 11:54.23 | supastuff | themill: thanks. I guess I'll do ext3 and "upgrade" it after install. do you know how I can select different partition sizes after the installer already decided on sizes on its own? |
| 11:55.35 | *** join/#debian hanibana (~5bb84c40@gateway/web/freenode/x-nvsfqbwljtofwwxl) |
| 11:55.44 | hanibana | hi al |
| 11:55.45 | hanibana | l |
| 11:56.18 | hanibana | whats the meaning of a plus (`+') in the package name? |
| 11:58.41 | themill | hanibana: example? |
| 11:58.54 | *** join/#debian Sm0ke0ut (~Sm0ke0ut@unaffiliated/sm0ke0ut) |
| 11:58.58 | themill | supastuff: no idea... I've not had to do a debian installation in years. |
| 11:59.03 | supastuff | ok |
| 11:59.18 | *** join/#debian ashledombos (~quassel@ris91-2-82-227-26-30.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:59.18 | *** join/#debian ashledombos (~quassel@mandriva/forum/ashledombos) |
| 11:59.25 | hanibana | themill: wget_1.11.4-2+lenny1_amd64.deb |
| 11:59.38 | *** join/#debian timahvo1_ (~rogue@41.223.57.72) |
| 12:00.23 | themill | hanibana: that's not the package name. The package name is "wget". The version is 1.11.4-2+lenny1. It was most likely an upload that was made directly to lenny after it was frozen in order to correct a grave bug or security problem. Check the changelog for details. |
| 12:01.03 | hanibana | themill: yes thanks |
| 12:01.36 | *** join/#debian AmokPaule (~AmokPaule@brsg-4dbbc648.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 12:02.22 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.73) |
| 12:02.48 | *** join/#debian afurlan (~afurlan@scorpion.mps.com.br) |
| 12:03.51 | lindi- | reminds me, is there a web spider in debian that uses some real html parser(tm)? |
| 12:04.07 | f00li5h | WWW::Mechanize! |
| 12:04.28 | f00li5h | NB: some programming required ;) |
| 12:04.28 | lindi- | f00li5h: perl? |
| 12:04.31 | *** join/#debian __jonas__ (~jonas@host-4.sitic.se) |
| 12:04.32 | jelly | lindi-: "real"? |
| 12:04.34 | f00li5h | you bet |
| 12:04.43 | f00li5h | jelly: yeah, in contrast to the ones php has |
| 12:05.29 | jelly | f00li5h: are those imaginary? |
| 12:05.41 | f00li5h | they are complex .... |
| 12:06.24 | lindi- | jelly: something that is used by more than one program :) |
| 12:06.35 | lindi- | jelly: something that has a name :) |
| 12:06.41 | *** join/#debian Texou (~Texou@unaffiliated/texou) |
| 12:07.08 | *** join/#debian SYN4PS3 (~chatzilla@188.158.99.169) |
| 12:07.10 | *** part/#debian Jckf (~Jckf@jimckf-2-pt.tunnel.tserv5.lon1.ipv6.he.net) |
| 12:07.11 | *** join/#debian aucabarcas (~inteltame@190.253.190.114) |
| 12:07.16 | *** join/#debian Meise (~meise@gw-2s00.inf.fh-bonn-rhein-sieg.de) |
| 12:07.39 | jelly | lindi-: what are you planning to do with it? |
| 12:07.54 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@62.209.163.106) |
| 12:08.05 | lindi- | jelly: mirror web sites :) |
| 12:08.31 | babilen | lindi-: wget? |
| 12:08.43 | lindi- | babilen: but it has its own parser written in C |
| 12:08.54 | jelly | lindi-: ask them for rsync or ftp access instead |
| 12:09.01 | babilen | which is "A bad thingâ¢" ? |
| 12:09.20 | lindi- | babilen: yeah since i can't easily add custom logic around it |
| 12:09.31 | babilen | ah, ok |
| 12:09.45 | jelly | lindi-: have you tried Beautiful Soup? |
| 12:09.49 | lindi- | jelly: nope |
| 12:10.05 | babilen | you would still have to write the "retrieve webpages logic" |
| 12:10.35 | jelly | lindi-: neither have I. Please relay back if you find it tasty. |
| 12:10.43 | babilen | lindi-: Why don't you just download the html with wget and process the data later? |
| 12:11.03 | babilen | lindi-: Beautiful soup is great - which language do you plan to program in? |
| 12:11.55 | Josh`` | VB |
| 12:12.03 | Josh`` | or TurboPascal |
| 12:12.13 | babilen | !lart Josh`` |
| 12:12.13 | dpkg | strangles Josh`` with a 9-pole serial cable |
| 12:12.20 | lindi- | babilen: i was just generally wondering what alternatives exist. need to look at WWW::Mechanize and beautiful soup i guess |
| 12:12.33 | babilen | lindi-: lxml is great too |
| 12:12.59 | babilen | good luck |
| 12:13.03 | lindi- | babilen: iki.fi/lindi/fsdaily/ uses an XML parser to parse fsdaily.com but keeps breaking since they often don't use valid XML |
| 12:13.17 | Josh`` | lindi-, hope your code doesnt get out to the public if it's really useful |
| 12:13.26 | Josh`` | site admins frown on screen scraping |
| 12:13.34 | f00li5h | I can not think of a reason to assume anyone on the web anywhere is serving valid xml to browsers |
| 12:13.45 | babilen | f00li5h: hence beautiful soup |
| 12:13.55 | *** join/#debian emachado (~edjunior@201.82.64.155) |
| 12:13.56 | *** join/#debian emachado (~edjunior@fsf/member/emachado) |
| 12:13.59 | f00li5h | it has an annoying name, is it a ruby thing? |
| 12:14.16 | jelly | f00li5h: no, but your second guess will be correct |
| 12:14.26 | babilen | lindi-: it's quite hard to recommend libraries if we don't know which language you want to use - or rather which languages you have in your toolbox |
| 12:14.33 | babilen | f00li5h: python |
| 12:14.35 | f00li5h | python! |
| 12:14.44 | lindi- | babilen: perl, python, C are all possible :) |
| 12:14.58 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@h172n5c1o269.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 12:15.00 | jelly | wonders which site lindi- is trying to steal^Wmirror data from |
| 12:15.16 | f00li5h | then go with Mech... it's a common enough task and most critters on #perl will have done it at some time |
| 12:15.26 | *** join/#debian aurelien (~Libre@fsf/member/aurelien) |
| 12:15.28 | *** join/#debian kyrix (~ashley@mail.ic-vienna.at) |
| 12:15.32 | *** join/#debian Faithful (~Faithful@202.6.145.116) |
| 12:15.54 | f00li5h | you will need, an array for a queue, a hash to prevent re-visiting (and looping) and a mech object to do the ... stuff |
| 12:16.02 | rgr | hhtrack already does all that |
| 12:16.10 | rgr | httrack even |
| 12:16.11 | f00li5h | rgr: i'm a bored programmer ... |
| 12:16.13 | babilen | lindi-: I think we've covered the "state-of-the-art" libs in that area ... |
| 12:16.29 | lindi- | babilen: yep, thanks for that |
| 12:16.33 | f00li5h | in order to relate to people, I assume they have thing sin common |
| 12:16.40 | aurelien | hi, just an info for people which use debian with only free software on, you'll can find the .deb of the last libre kernel from fsfla.org at http://www.fscorsica.org have a nice day |
| 12:16.44 | rgr | f00li5h: the OSS bug lists are that huge steaming pile yonder in distance .... ;) |
| 12:17.01 | babilen | lindi-: lxml and beautiful soup are Python and WWW:Mechanize is Perl - They are all in heavy use and learning them is not a bad idea :) |
| 12:17.22 | f00li5h | rgr: point me at the perl ones |
| 12:17.34 | f00li5h | is reading the new pacakge maintainer manuals |
| 12:17.44 | rgr | if you're any good I daresay you can google them up yourself ... |
| 12:17.53 | f00li5h | so now there's a test? |
| 12:18.06 | f00li5h | i'm a lazy perl programmer, and those guys are already pretty lazy ;) |
| 12:18.07 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.191.224.178) |
| 12:18.24 | *** join/#debian Patrulka (~Patrul@79-100-23-143.btc-net.bg) |
| 12:18.28 | rgr | the laguage is, for me, generally of secondary consideration. |
| 12:18.29 | jelly | f00li5h: I bet you use lazy module loading and lazy evaluation. |
| 12:18.42 | f00li5h | yeah, if i can be bothered |
| 12:18.43 | rgr | Just dont mention Java ... Grrr .... |
| 12:18.53 | OpenTokix | Java |
| 12:18.58 | f00li5h | claws at OpenTokix |
| 12:19.01 | *** join/#debian R430R (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 12:19.59 | jelly | Java! |
| 12:20.31 | jelly | !start a language war |
| 12:20.32 | dpkg | Logo is faster than Oberon |
| 12:20.50 | babilen | ⥠dpkg |
| 12:21.28 | *** join/#debian JNSamuel (~JNSamuel@host86-164-26-75.range86-164.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:21.28 | *** join/#debian JNSamuel (~JNSamuel@unaffiliated/eckstasy) |
| 12:21.39 | *** join/#debian smeea (~smeea@89.163.26.137) |
| 12:24.00 | *** join/#debian Eren (~eren@unaffiliated/eren) |
| 12:25.06 | *** join/#debian jpitts (~jpitts@rrcs-74-219-149-162.central.biz.rr.com) |
| 12:25.16 | supastuff | the linux-image-2.6-amd64 package, does that mean that it would be the latest 2.6 that debian has? |
| 12:25.43 | valdyn | supastuff: current, not latest |
| 12:25.53 | supastuff | how is current defined? |
| 12:26.12 | valdyn | supastuff: in debian/stable? |
| 12:26.14 | supastuff | I meant, the newest 2.6 kernel for the dist that I have |
| 12:26.15 | supastuff | unstable |
| 12:26.25 | valdyn | supastuff: unstable is unstable, you never know |
| 12:27.25 | supastuff | ok |
| 12:27.49 | *** join/#debian DelTree (~deplagne@goldorak3.eric.deplagne.name) |
| 12:28.01 | *** join/#debian sansen_ (~san@190.245.97.224) |
| 12:29.33 | DelTree | hi... I've some trouble with php5 package on squeeze... and I can't even rebuid the package... |
| 12:29.44 | *** join/#debian phinaliumz (~doesnt@86-60-159-66-dyn-dsl.ssp.fi) |
| 12:29.53 | DelTree | dpkg-buildpackage ends by "dpkg-buildpackage: error: dpkg-source -b php5-5.3.1 gave error exit status 1"... |
| 12:31.32 | *** join/#debian zappy (~zuppy@xdslfq246.osnanet.de) |
| 12:32.01 | manicman | can i somehow install ruby1.9.1 and gem1.9.1 on debian lenny? |
| 12:33.31 | lindi- | rgr: wget, omt, simba and httrack seem to be the web mirroring tools in debian |
| 12:33.36 | *** join/#debian SoulSeller (ss@unaffiliated/soulseller) |
| 12:34.41 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@62.209.163.106) |
| 12:36.03 | *** part/#debian jpitts (~jpitts@rrcs-74-219-149-162.central.biz.rr.com) |
| 12:38.35 | *** join/#debian manicman (~manicman@wlan-client-144.informatik.uni-bremen.de) |
| 12:38.35 | *** join/#debian manicman (~manicman@unaffiliated/manicman) |
| 12:39.06 | *** join/#debian Elshar_ (Elshar@files.oregonfast.net) |
| 12:39.40 | *** join/#debian \\localhost (~david@quanthouse.cust.jaguar-network.net) |
| 12:39.48 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 12:40.04 | *** join/#debian Alagar (~helpdesk@173-203-103-230.static.cloud-ips.com) |
| 12:41.47 | \\localhost | join #automount |
| 12:42.19 | \\localhost | mistyped... |
| 12:42.50 | *** join/#debian leleobhz (~leleobhz@unaffiliated/leleobhz) |
| 12:43.02 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@88.103.15.70) |
| 12:43.18 | leleobhz | can aptitude show complete url instead only domain when updating? |
| 12:44.45 | *** join/#debian Cain (~Geek@unaffiliated/cain) |
| 12:45.01 | *** join/#debian marienjoanny (~marienjoa@79.87.174.167) |
| 12:45.40 | *** join/#debian Rossonero (~Rossonero@wana-15-237-12-196.wanamaroc.com) |
| 12:45.50 | Rossonero | hello |
| 12:46.13 | Rossonero | is there someone who has tried to install quake 3 arena demo in debian box ? |
| 12:46.21 | *** join/#debian careta (~botto@134.219.139.96) |
| 12:46.55 | Rossonero | I have tried to install the linux setup file : linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh.. but it shows many errors |
| 12:47.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 916] by debhelper |
| 12:47.47 | *** join/#debian ePax (~ePax@unaffiliated/epax) |
| 12:48.12 | ePax | Do i need X to create kickstart script for lenny server? |
| 12:48.29 | *** join/#debian abrotman (~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman) |
| 12:50.37 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@ghenry.plus.com) |
| 12:50.37 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/ghenry) |
| 12:54.38 | *** join/#debian R430R (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 12:54.50 | *** join/#debian k00pa (koopa@93.127.227.219) |
| 12:56.29 | *** join/#debian Chaos`Eternal (~chaos@58.39.99.9) |
| 12:56.51 | k00pa | Just checking out, does debians grub installation spot win7 automatically when installing? |
| 12:57.19 | *** join/#debian grazymax (~grazymax@host95-36-dynamic.247-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 12:58.48 | valdyn | k00pa: like any other dos / windows version |
| 12:59.04 | k00pa | good |
| 12:59.21 | k00pa | and 5.0 had the kde as default desktop? |
| 12:59.23 | k00pa | 3.0? |
| 12:59.44 | valdyn | Rossonero: just run openarena? |
| 12:59.46 | *** join/#debian Psi-Jack_ (~psi-jack@yggdrasil.hostdruids.com) |
| 12:59.48 | *** join/#debian ezraw (~chatzilla@static-68-162-94-210.phil.east.verizon.net) |
| 13:00.16 | valdyn | Rossonero: thats in debian, is it not based in quake 3 ? |
| 13:00.51 | *** join/#debian Bhavic (~Bhavic@219.89.232.131) |
| 13:00.51 | *** join/#debian rainofkayos (~rainofkay@cpe-66-65-51-242.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 13:01.28 | Rossonero | valdyn, what are you talking about ? what is openarena ? |
| 13:02.38 | salvin | Rossonero: it's quake3arena, with differents maps and models |
| 13:02.42 | *** join/#debian quma (~eleazar@host64-59-dynamic.55-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 13:03.04 | Rossonero | ok good where can I find this ? |
| 13:03.27 | *** join/#debian zp (~zeev@109.253.1.8) |
| 13:04.11 | k00pa | apt-get? |
| 13:04.21 | salvin | Rossonero: there's a package in debian called "openarena" |
| 13:04.30 | Rossonero | ah ok |
| 13:04.31 | Rossonero | thanks |
| 13:05.08 | *** join/#debian gentgeen__ (~kevin@65.105.38.211.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 13:05.25 | salvin | Rossonero: forza palermo |
| 13:05.35 | Rossonero | VERY NICE |
| 13:05.38 | Rossonero | FORZA MILANNNNNNNNNNNNN |
| 13:05.39 | Rossonero | haha |
| 13:06.02 | *** join/#debian amsterdam (~nixda@port-92-198-42-37.static.qsc.de) |
| 13:06.07 | *** join/#debian brotakku (~brotakku@dslc-082-082-090-203.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 13:06.23 | zp | is there a way to remove double strings from a file (like sort -u) but without sorting it, preserving the original order? |
| 13:07.15 | Holborn | uniq? |
| 13:09.20 | zp | 'uniq' does not detect repeated lines unless they are adjacent |
| 13:09.28 | zp | :( |
| 13:09.33 | SolarisBoy | which is why it needs to be sorted first |
| 13:09.50 | zp | but I need to preserve the original order... |
| 13:10.17 | echa | zp: insert a numeric field first |
| 13:10.40 | Lazy^ | Hey, if i want to use "" or '' in /etc/fstab what is proper format |
| 13:11.52 | zp | echa: then the lines will be not equal? |
| 13:11.57 | *** join/#debian cn (~cn@oldgw.ffgraz.net) |
| 13:12.00 | cn | hi |
| 13:12.18 | *** join/#debian jkdsoft (~JKD@27.85-87-85.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) |
| 13:13.32 | cn | I have a broken package management. Apt complains that a dpkg-process was aborted and that I have to manually execute "dpkg --configure -a" to solve the problem. |
| 13:13.51 | rvsjoen | and ? |
| 13:14.00 | cn | When doing so the package fmtutil-sys fails. |
| 13:14.04 | *** join/#debian fugdnscerd (~shane@173-24-24-158.client.mchsi.com) |
| 13:14.38 | *** join/#debian shahri (~shahri@dslb-094-220-144-110.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 13:14.48 | cn | dpkg reports problems with the texlive-* packages and quits with errorlevel 1. |
| 13:14.48 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, cn |
| 13:15.07 | themill | cn: please pastebin the entire output and the command you gave. /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 13:15.26 | *** join/#debian Utopic (~Blau@83.52.19.80) |
| 13:15.58 | fugdnscerd | hey guys I am looking to create a set-top-box htpc for a relative. I need to decide on a distro that will be supported for as long as possible. I am trying to decide between ubuntu server LTS and a debian distro. Can you guys give me any advice |
| 13:16.11 | *** part/#debian Utopic (~Blau@83.52.19.80) |
| 13:16.12 | cn | themill: alright. |
| 13:16.52 | Titan8990 | fugdnscerd: this is not the place for a "what distro should I use?" question. Our answer is always debian |
| 13:16.57 | Titan8990 | fugdnscerd: ##linux |
| 13:17.25 | fugdnscerd | I want to keep with a debian or debian-like distro |
| 13:17.43 | *** join/#debian chops1 (~amoise@c-98-216-10-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 13:17.53 | nasso | does anyone know of a good recovery live cd for ext3? |
| 13:18.14 | echa | nasso: ubuntu, knoppix |
| 13:18.36 | fugdnscerd | I am basically curious about the LTS with debian. How long are debian releases supported after release |
| 13:18.39 | *** part/#debian chops1 (~amoise@c-98-216-10-129.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 13:18.45 | *** join/#debian Faithful (~Faithful@202.6.145.116) |
| 13:18.50 | cn | themill: http://pastebin.com/zBsXur9f |
| 13:19.06 | nasso | echa, im looking for a specialized distibution. files have been removed from an ext3 filesystem |
| 13:20.31 | gamer | how do you download burn a cd while using a live cd |
| 13:20.39 | gamer | i mean |
| 13:20.52 | gamer | how do you BURN one |
| 13:20.55 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 13:21.00 | cn | themill: http://pastebin.com/0qTVNfCE (fmtutil-sys output) |
| 13:21.01 | hollo_ | gamer, cdrecord /tmp/debian.iso |
| 13:21.33 | fugdnscerd | nobody knows how long a debian release is supported? |
| 13:21.43 | *** join/#debian dinya_ (~Denis@94.50.8.208) |
| 13:22.02 | Titan8990 | fugdnscerd: for about a year after the next stable |
| 13:22.03 | themill | fugdnscerd: security.debian.org does, as does google |
| 13:22.11 | iceroot | fugdnscerd: no because noone knows when the next version is released |
| 13:22.22 | *** join/#debian bbd (evaldas@morgas.net) |
| 13:22.31 | Titan8990 | fugdnscerd: roughly 3-4years |
| 13:22.39 | iceroot | fugdnscerd: but one year after next stable release sounds good |
| 13:22.44 | *** join/#debian sourcode (~code@ppp-58-8-238-83.revip2.asianet.co.th) |
| 13:22.45 | fugdnscerd | i see thank you |
| 13:22.57 | *** part/#debian fugdnscerd (~shane@173-24-24-158.client.mchsi.com) |
| 13:23.02 | Titan8990 | iceroot: 7yrs no matter what is pretty nice too.... |
| 13:23.02 | *** part/#debian gamer (~ubuntu@c-71-234-165-17.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) |
| 13:23.39 | themill | Titan8990: support for more than 5 core packages is nice too... |
| 13:24.08 | *** join/#debian wols (~klingens@p549DF201.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:24.13 | *** join/#debian bmr (~bmr@nat/redhat/x-rkzjuifbrcoxtkpx) |
| 13:24.48 | Titan8990 | themill: now your asking too much :p |
| 13:25.17 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 13:26.25 | themill | cn: can you pastebin the output of "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l 'texlive-*' 'libpoppler*' " as well? |
| 13:26.25 | *** join/#debian slidesinger (~slidesing@c-68-44-99-50.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 13:27.10 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@c-76-121-43-48.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 13:27.28 | cn | themill: sure, one moment. |
| 13:29.01 | cn | themill: http://pastebin.com/mbSJf0Lv |
| 13:29.09 | *** join/#debian andres833 (~andres833@190.144.75.22) |
| 13:29.10 | *** join/#debian R430R (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 13:30.08 | *** join/#debian mypapit (~mypapit@118.101.207.50) |
| 13:30.57 | *** join/#debian valdyn (~valdyn@valdyn.org) |
| 13:30.58 | *** join/#debian G_O_D1 (~marco@190.31.107.28) |
| 13:32.04 | *** join/#debian vader-- (~me@c-68-36-9-8.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 13:32.16 | themill | cn: it looks like you have a mix of texlive 2007 and texlive 2009 there and I'd presume that is what is causing the problems. |
| 13:32.56 | cn | themill: okay. this could be. what should i do? can i remove them and start from scratch? |
| 13:32.56 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 13:33.00 | efaistos | any idea why a tcpdump stops working after a couple of seconds ? |
| 13:33.33 | wols | cn: use lots of dpkg -r --purge |
| 13:33.41 | themill | cn: the drastic approach would be "aptitude purge ~ntexlive" but that might rip out more than what you really want. |
| 13:33.51 | wols | cn: and make really sure what you run. sid or squeeze |
| 13:34.06 | *** join/#debian Ruyan (~ruan@eduroam-250.felk.cvut.cz) |
| 13:34.14 | cn | thanks themill, thanks wols. |
| 13:34.14 | *** join/#debian gentgeen__ (~kevin@65.105.38.211.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 13:34.27 | cn | I'm trying to -- purge them. |
| 13:34.38 | *** join/#debian KavanS (~KavanS@static-173-50-141-22.ptldor.fios.verizon.net) |
| 13:34.53 | *** join/#debian Myztik (~Myztik@90-231-233-245-no109.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 13:35.06 | Titan8990 | efaistos: what command are you giving? |
| 13:36.44 | *** join/#debian rduplain (~rduplain@cv-nat-A-129.cv.nrao.edu) |
| 13:37.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 925] by debhelper |
| 13:40.26 | cn | Can i force the (temporary) removal of a package to reinstall it? |
| 13:41.24 | wols | you can use "--force" with dpkg. dpkg --force-help |
| 13:41.35 | cn | thanks. |
| 13:41.40 | *** join/#debian Sergio` (~Sergio`@unaffiliated/sergio/x-8197433) |
| 13:43.11 | *** join/#debian pikudoz (~chatzilla@190.8.135.69) |
| 13:44.25 | *** join/#debian r3c4ll (~r3c4ll@201.242.181.120) |
| 13:46.11 | *** join/#debian John__ (~chatzilla@host86-185-102-0.range86-185.btcentralplus.com) |
| 13:46.19 | *** join/#debian Touma (~Touma@srvsmtp.ivss.gov.ve) |
| 13:50.09 | *** join/#debian jorizma (~heretic@69.45.31.227) |
| 13:50.13 | *** join/#debian Third3ye (~Third3ye@c06304BC1.dhcp.bluecom.no) |
| 13:52.02 | *** part/#debian John__ (~chatzilla@host86-185-102-0.range86-185.btcentralplus.com) |
| 13:52.17 | *** join/#debian A044 (~A044@ns.iomc.ras.ru) |
| 13:52.55 | *** part/#debian A044 (~A044@ns.iomc.ras.ru) |
| 13:54.34 | *** join/#debian fender0107401 (~fender010@219.243.32.29) |
| 13:54.46 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@88-138-189-32.adslgp.cegetel.net) |
| 13:56.02 | *** join/#debian shogunx (~shogunx@2001:4978:106:1:211:d8ff:fe4e:bacc) |
| 13:57.27 | *** join/#debian MoMo (~drstroker@ip70-181-252-58.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 13:58.04 | MoMo | i am doing a netinstall -- debian found my wireless adapter on eth0 -- how do i configure my connection so that it has my ssid and wep password? |
| 13:58.18 | wols | MoMo: wpa? |
| 13:58.56 | MoMo | wep |
| 13:59.16 | MoMo | i know -- but its not my network, its my roommates and i really don't want to have that discussion |
| 13:59.33 | *** join/#debian fender0107401 (~fender010@219.243.32.29) |
| 13:59.42 | *** part/#debian leleobhz (~leleobhz@unaffiliated/leleobhz) |
| 14:00.02 | wols | the ugly truth is, debian isn't erally set up to use wlan while installing |
| 14:00.08 | *** join/#debian A044 (~A044@ns.iomc.ras.ru) |
| 14:00.21 | wols | you could go to a 2nd console and set it up yourself by editing /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:00.34 | wols | but imho, you can just do the install without a network, since there is no need |
| 14:00.46 | wols | then after installation, set it up and then run "tasksel" if you wish |
| 14:00.48 | MoMo | well i only have the netinstall cd |
| 14:01.03 | wols | tasksel is what the installer runs and what needs the internet access. the only thing |
| 14:02.06 | MoMo | there is no interfaces file in my /etc/network |
| 14:02.51 | wols | do you have iwconfig? then it should be possible (hopefully) to use WEP |
| 14:03.19 | wols | otherwise, I dunno. as I said: install and set up the network afterwards. no hassle and you get the exact same things if you had done it all in the installer |
| 14:03.39 | MoMo | oh okay -- as long as its the same i guess |
| 14:04.37 | *** join/#debian spikerman (~thinkpddb@58.39.80.117) |
| 14:04.46 | *** join/#debian taras (~taras@unaffiliated/taraskostiak) |
| 14:05.15 | wols | MoMo: just run tasksel |
| 14:05.39 | *** join/#debian litlebuda (~litlebuda@87.191.54.77.rev.vodafone.pt) |
| 14:07.30 | *** join/#debian isfranc (~fran@thenewlan.fr) |
| 14:07.37 | isfranc | hello |
| 14:07.54 | isfranc | i have a lib probleme on sid for xen compil |
| 14:08.17 | isfranc | /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../libcrypto.so when searching for -lcrypto |
| 14:08.37 | isfranc | i search for libcrypto 64 |
| 14:08.40 | isfranc | can t find |
| 14:08.56 | *** join/#debian buntfalke (~nobody@openvpn-p0-ipv6-1017.triple-a.uni-kl.de) |
| 14:08.58 | *** join/#debian buntfalke (~nobody@unaffiliated/buntfalke) |
| 14:09.35 | *** join/#debian werdan7 (~w7@freenode/staff/wikimedia.werdan7) |
| 14:10.18 | *** join/#debian pbn (pbn@wopr.geekshells.org) |
| 14:10.45 | *** join/#debian lataffe (~lataffe@cm-84.211.144.94.getinternet.no) |
| 14:10.46 | *** join/#debian R430R (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 14:11.12 | wols | isfranc: install libssl-dev |
| 14:11.19 | *** join/#debian petemc_ (pete@81.144.188.147) |
| 14:11.50 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@88-138-189-32.adslgp.cegetel.net) |
| 14:12.04 | *** join/#debian ctp (~ctp@2002:bc60:e0bc:0:226:8ff:fedc:a317) |
| 14:12.11 | *** join/#debian poncha|work (~poncha@unaffiliated/poncha) |
| 14:12.45 | *** join/#debian ruoso (~ruoso@187.79.3.174) |
| 14:13.47 | isfranc | wols: thanks, but i have libssl-dev |
| 14:13.51 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@99-196-115-171.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 14:13.59 | *** join/#debian Bry-Dog (ghost@guestlaptop-16.cis.uoguelph.ca) |
| 14:14.37 | *** join/#debian vizzy (~vizzy@p54B1FA5C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:14.41 | wols | isfranc: uname -a |
| 14:15.03 | *** join/#debian Agiofws (~Agiofws@athedsl-424744.home.otenet.gr) |
| 14:15.44 | *** join/#debian jvm_ (~jvm@krlh-5f7355d5.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 14:17.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 935] by debhelper |
| 14:18.16 | *** join/#debian {41444d494e}|w (~qwe@leased-line-gomel-93-125-101-15.telecom.by) |
| 14:20.48 | jvm_ | hi. i want to use ssh keys to log in, and set it up. but when trying to connect i get "Mar 15 14:12:26 v1693 sshd[29247]: Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory /home/jvm" in the log files. /home/jvm is set to 707, user jvm, group users, with the intention of disabling access for other users of the group, but allowing access for the webserver. how to do it correct? |
| 14:21.41 | joltcan | jvm_: it needs to be permission 0700 on the directory IIRC |
| 14:22.15 | isfranc | wols: 2.6.32-3-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Feb 25 07:33:41 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 14:22.21 | joltcan | jvm_: And the user loggin in will be authenticated as the jvm user, so the group isn't really in play there anyway |
| 14:22.25 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@h128-254.pool212-16.dyn.tolna.net) |
| 14:22.28 | Zylvain1 | hi |
| 14:22.40 | Zylvain1 | is there a way to get video displayed, with VLC ? |
| 14:23.11 | Zylvain1 | i'm on testing, but I tried -t sid, and got the same result: only sound, no video |
| 14:23.20 | vizzy | Zylvain1, yes, but you dont have to use overlay |
| 14:23.30 | vizzy | oh, sorry, i read vnc :) |
| 14:24.33 | wols | Syniq: what happens if you try to watch video? |
| 14:24.46 | *** join/#debian dinya (Denis@109.195.150.197) |
| 14:25.13 | *** join/#debian A044 (~A044@ns.iomc.ras.ru) |
| 14:25.47 | jvm_ | joltcan, i need it to be 707 for the webserver access. i am not sure how to implement it so both the webserver as well as sshd is happy. |
| 14:26.15 | wols | jvm_: why does the webserver need access to your private ssh keys? |
| 14:26.23 | *** join/#debian swygue (~rheron@69.64.209.66) |
| 14:26.33 | jvm_ | wols, it needs access to the home directory, not the ssh keys. |
| 14:26.34 | *** join/#debian KavanS (~KavanS@static-173-50-141-22.ptldor.fios.verizon.net) |
| 14:27.03 | *** join/#debian ManateeLazyCat (~user@121.13.173.198) |
| 14:27.05 | *** join/#debian A044 (~A044@ns.iomc.ras.ru) |
| 14:27.34 | wols | jvm_: ls -l ~/.ssh |
| 14:28.08 | jvm_ | wols, all set to 600 |
| 14:28.30 | joltcan | jvm_: You only have to set restrictive permission to the .ssh directory, everything else might be group accessible |
| 14:28.41 | jvm_ | wols, ssh still complains about the ownership and mode of /home/jvm! |
| 14:29.19 | *** join/#debian tarik (~chatzilla@41.140.248.167) |
| 14:29.27 | joltcan | jvm_: then set ownership to jvm.jvm on both .ssh and authorized_keys |
| 14:29.43 | themill | !ssh permissions |
| 14:29.43 | dpkg | You cannot use your ssh key if the permissions are set on your client so that someone else can steal it, or if the permissions on the remote machine permit someone else adding keys. On the client: chmod 755 ~/; chmod 700 ~/.ssh; chmod 600 ~/.ssh/id_rsa. On the server: chmod 755 ~/; chmod 700 ~/.ssh; chmod 600 ~/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 14:29.53 | joltcan | jvm_: And by the way, the best way of creating that file is to use "ssh-copy-id" |
| 14:30.13 | *** join/#debian KavanS (~KavanS@static-173-50-141-22.ptldor.fios.verizon.net) |
| 14:30.21 | *** join/#debian vader-- (~me@c-68-36-9-8.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 14:30.32 | *** join/#debian CrashFr (~CrashFr@AAubervilliers-151-1-55-232.w83-112.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:30.45 | *** join/#debian {41444d494e}|w (~qwe@leased-line-gomel-93-125-101-15.telecom.by) |
| 14:31.19 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 14:31.19 | *** join/#debian botto__ (~botto@134.219.139.96) |
| 14:32.49 | *** join/#debian Touma (~Touma@srvsmtp.ivss.gov.ve) |
| 14:35.58 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@mnhm-4d012f51.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 14:35.59 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 14:36.09 | isfranc | wols: have ideas for have all lib64 ? |
| 14:36.47 | wols | isfranc: why "lib64"? you run amd64 debian so all your libs are 64bit |
| 14:37.02 | wols | or are you trying to compile stuff for i386? |
| 14:37.09 | wols | ie crosscompiling |
| 14:37.26 | isfranc | wols: no i compil xen |
| 14:37.31 | *** join/#debian gh0st (~ghost@78.90.113.108) |
| 14:37.32 | *** join/#debian Dripfeeder (~Dripfeede@153.mosuzedu.ru) |
| 14:37.36 | gh0st | how can i set framebuffer in kernel options fro grub2 ? |
| 14:37.40 | gh0st | for* |
| 14:38.00 | isfranc | but i have install some library 64 for run, but now stop for libcrypto |
| 14:38.18 | Titan8990 | gh0st: kernel options are not dependant on the bootloader. same way you would in grub1 |
| 14:38.31 | wols | Titan8990: no, not the same way |
| 14:38.32 | gh0st | ops |
| 14:38.37 | *** join/#debian maligor (~maligor@a85-156-209-40.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 14:38.43 | wols | gh0st: /etc/default/grub iirc |
| 14:38.56 | gh0st | what is the param for framebuffer? |
| 14:39.00 | gh0st | framebuffer=? |
| 14:39.04 | *** join/#debian {41444d494e}|w (~qwe@leased-line-gomel-93-125-101-15.telecom.by) |
| 14:39.06 | gh0st | !tell gh0st framebuffer |
| 14:39.09 | wols | fb=.,... I think |
| 14:39.16 | wols | !tell gh0st about selftell |
| 14:39.16 | Titan8990 | fb= or vga= |
| 14:39.26 | isfranc | wols: it s my log error --> /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../libcrypto.a when searching for -lcrypto |
| 14:39.35 | gh0st | ok gentelmens |
| 14:39.38 | gh0st | thanx |
| 14:39.40 | gh0st | ks |
| 14:39.47 | *** join/#debian paissad (~paissad@fac34-3-89-87-195-22.dsl.club-internet.fr) |
| 14:40.07 | *** join/#debian merlin83 (~merlin83@cm24.delta241.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 14:40.17 | *** join/#debian merlin83 (~merlin83@unaffiliated/merlin83) |
| 14:40.30 | *** part/#debian gh0st (~ghost@78.90.113.108) |
| 14:42.12 | *** join/#debian jefferai (~quassel@kde/amarok/mitchell) |
| 14:43.50 | *** join/#debian muh2000 (~muh2000@2001:470:9c79:88:219:d1ff:fe96:8ef4) |
| 14:43.56 | *** join/#debian muh2000 (~muh2000@unaffiliated/muh2000) |
| 14:44.04 | *** join/#debian gentgeen__ (~kevin@65.105.38.211.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 14:44.28 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~sod@host86-175-233-193.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 14:45.08 | *** join/#debian llutz (~lutz@pdpc/supporter/active/llutz) |
| 14:45.32 | *** join/#debian jaco (~jaco@mail.qv.co.za) |
| 14:46.00 | jaco | Hey Guys, I want to to the following on my Debian 5 box: set it up with a gsm modem so it'll send me an sms whenever the internet connection drops. Any ideas? |
| 14:47.02 | vegardx | Find out how to communicate with the device and setup a simple script to ping something outside every x minutes? |
| 14:47.19 | *** join/#debian CrashFr (~CrashFr@AAubervilliers-151-1-55-232.w83-112.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:47.29 | Titan8990 | he would probably need to send the SMS via google voice or something |
| 14:47.34 | maligor | jaco, that's relatively easy if you find a modem that supports a known AT commandset to send sms |
| 14:48.23 | wols | many/most mobile telcos let you send sms via a mail gateway |
| 14:48.48 | *** join/#debian fender0107401 (~fender010@219.243.32.29) |
| 14:48.50 | maligor | I imagine the issue is the lack of net connection ;P |
| 14:50.54 | wols | maligor: debian can use a cellphone to send the mail/sms |
| 14:51.15 | maligor | you mean a gsm modem |
| 14:51.32 | *** join/#debian collabra (~collabra@c-24-22-90-7.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 14:52.25 | *** join/#debian kaziem (~devnull@159.23.106.243) |
| 14:52.32 | jaco | Yes, I will have to use a gsm modem to send the sms because if the internet is down it can't send it to a sms gateway |
| 14:52.51 | *** join/#debian gentgeen__ (~kevin@65.105.38.211.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 14:53.02 | jvm_ | thanks joltcan and wols. have a nice day. |
| 14:53.04 | *** part/#debian jvm_ (~jvm@krlh-5f7355d5.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 14:53.44 | jaco | I'm quite a newbie at this so how would I go about setting this up? |
| 14:54.06 | *** join/#debian allisterb (~allisterb@cuscon126875.tstt.net.tt) |
| 14:54.21 | joltcan | jaco: Kannel can do that (and many other stuff), but it's unfortunately very complex |
| 14:54.29 | *** join/#debian lvh (~lvh@83.101.62.190) |
| 14:54.47 | *** join/#debian yogurt2ungue (~yogurt2un@190.31.68.211) |
| 14:55.25 | jaco | wols, how do I set this up? |
| 14:55.33 | vegardx | jaco: The problem with stuff like this is that each modem operates alittle different. So i guess your best luck is to google your modem and find what AT-commands you have to issue to send the text. Then you setup a simple bash-script or whatever to issue the AT-commands when it gets no route to host on ping or such errors. |
| 14:55.44 | joltcan | jaco: playSMS or gnokii might give you more hints |
| 14:56.09 | jaco | thanx guys, I haven |
| 14:56.24 | jaco | thanx guys, I haven't bought the modem yet - any specific ones you can recommend? |
| 14:56.52 | vegardx | I personally use Huawei E169, it works nicely with Linux, OSX and Windows. |
| 14:57.00 | vegardx | But not for the same as you use it. |
| 14:57.18 | jaco | I guess I can also just use a cheap Nokia phone...? |
| 14:57.39 | jaco | Which will be the easiest to setup? |
| 14:57.39 | vegardx | yep |
| 14:57.46 | *** join/#debian asarch (~asarch@189.188.146.61) |
| 14:57.56 | vegardx | a friend of mine setup a nokia phone to do the same, but under Windows in C# |
| 14:59.14 | wols | jaco: the nokia phone needs a data cable |
| 14:59.44 | *** join/#debian AlHafoudh (~alhafoudh@77.93.192.244) |
| 14:59.55 | wols | then, software like gnokii or gammu or such might work |
| 15:00.01 | wols | best google them |
| 15:00.48 | *** join/#debian shingouz (shingouz@80-186-179-128.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 15:00.56 | *** join/#debian r00t_ (~sebby@188.24.100.0) |
| 15:01.50 | maligor | do the cheap nokia's have gsm modem slave mode? |
| 15:02.11 | r00t_ | does annyone know if for running a CStrike Server on Debian5 it needs some special installs like library or something .. |
| 15:02.30 | *** join/#debian amblin (~user@unaffiliated/amblin) |
| 15:03.29 | wols | r00t_: have you googled it? |
| 15:05.13 | *** join/#debian robrose (~rob@host253-20-dynamic.48-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 15:05.15 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 15:05.54 | joltcan | jaco: I think gsmlib sounds pretty straightforward |
| 15:06.44 | isfranc | log error --> /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../libcrypto.a when searching for -lcrypto |
| 15:06.44 | *** join/#debian null815 (~mr@HSI-KBW-091-089-110-205.hsi2.kabelbw.de) |
| 15:06.50 | *** part/#debian null815 (~mr@HSI-KBW-091-089-110-205.hsi2.kabelbw.de) |
| 15:06.57 | isfranc | i try to compil xen on amd64 kernel |
| 15:07.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 942] by debhelper |
| 15:08.20 | *** join/#debian null815 (~mr@HSI-KBW-091-089-110-205.hsi2.kabelbw.de) |
| 15:08.25 | *** join/#debian feisar (~simon@10.114.2.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 15:09.06 | null815 | hi all. can someone help me with netatalk 2.0.5? hiding home directories in mac finder... |
| 15:09.08 | *** join/#debian theChad (~chad@nat-vlan0202.sat4.rackspace.com) |
| 15:09.25 | Titan8990 | isfranc: why are you compiling it? its already packaged for debian |
| 15:09.28 | wols | isfranc: you miss either the 64bit or the 32bit libcrypto.so |
| 15:09.40 | wols | isfranc: see http://tamastarjanyi.blogspot.com/2007/09/ubuntu-gutsy-64bit-wine-misses-ssl.html for example |
| 15:10.19 | isfranc | Titan8990: is xen 4 rc6 |
| 15:10.41 | vegardx | Try using a stable release if you are unsure how to read error messages. |
| 15:11.53 | isfranc | wols thanks i read this |
| 15:12.09 | *** join/#debian sneezewort (~hbarrett@129.24.63.254) |
| 15:12.19 | *** join/#debian zappy (~zuppy@xdsl-92-252-101-220.dip.osnanet.de) |
| 15:12.22 | r00t_ | annyone in here who runs CStrike server on Debian? |
| 15:12.46 | *** part/#debian trone (~sim@host58-56-dynamic.55-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 15:13.19 | vegardx | r00t_: It's quite good documented, google it. |
| 15:13.21 | *** join/#debian Batchy (~batchy@AVelizy-155-1-31-135.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:13.55 | *** join/#debian wr| (~wr@pD4B9EC15.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:14.25 | *** join/#debian sourcode (~code@ppp-115-87-200-93.revip4.asianet.co.th) |
| 15:14.56 | *** join/#debian sourcode (~code@ppp-115-87-200-93.revip4.asianet.co.th) |
| 15:16.17 | *** join/#debian boxxertrumps (~ryan@69-196-152-28.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 15:16.40 | *** join/#debian helo (~nkr@unaffiliated/helo) |
| 15:17.35 | helo | is there any reason why someone would create a sid ia32 chroot instead of lenny? |
| 15:18.05 | *** join/#debian colby (~colby@lanip-170-65.go180.net) |
| 15:18.19 | helo | (if lenny meets the software requirements) |
| 15:18.35 | *** join/#debian cherwin (~cherwin@84-53-64-50.adsl.unet.nl) |
| 15:19.08 | null815 | hi all. can someone help me with netatalk 2.0.5? hiding home directories in mac finder... |
| 15:20.03 | cherwin | null815: what? |
| 15:20.04 | *** join/#debian chuckler (~fa@122.166.88.75) |
| 15:20.48 | chuckler | http://pastebin.com/qeSVk5w1 can anyone help me wiht this exact same problem? |
| 15:20.57 | null815 | cherwin: i have a running netatalk 2.0.5 on a debian lenny ... but in finder it shows the user dirs but i want to hide them ... in the AppleVolumes.default there is no entry for home |
| 15:21.12 | *** join/#debian thechef (~testi@adsl-89-217-122-11.adslplus.ch) |
| 15:21.16 | abrotman | chuckler: it tells you how to solve it, read the whole message |
| 15:21.20 | chuckler | udev being a bitch after a full upgrade |
| 15:21.23 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 15:21.25 | abrotman | gives themill some more ammo |
| 15:21.36 | abrotman | chuckler: additionally, you should be using aptitude |
| 15:21.52 | cherwin | null815: I have absolutely no idea. |
| 15:21.52 | chuckler | i am using aptitude |
| 15:22.00 | chuckler | i did a full upgrade |
| 15:22.05 | null815 | cherwin: kk ^^ |
| 15:22.15 | abrotman | chuckler: your paste says 'apt-get' |
| 15:22.25 | *** join/#debian madi (~madi@unaffiliated/madi) |
| 15:22.27 | cherwin | chuckler: he means aptitude vs. apt-get |
| 15:22.30 | chuckler | and am battling udev/kernel installatiion issues. sysfs_something is deprecated in the kernel and udev requires it disabled. |
| 15:22.31 | abrotman | chuckler: and the message still tells you how to solve it |
| 15:22.37 | abrotman | or don't read .. |
| 15:22.41 | chuckler | cherwin: my bad i oughta have been more clear. |
| 15:22.47 | chuckler | that post is not mine. |
| 15:22.55 | chuckler | i have a similar problem |
| 15:23.01 | chuckler | i did try |
| 15:23.18 | abrotman | did try what? what it tells you to do? |
| 15:23.21 | chuckler | yes |
| 15:23.21 | *** join/#debian pierreghz (~pierre@cust-29-121-111-94.dyn.as47377.net) |
| 15:23.30 | chuckler | same problem |
| 15:23.42 | chuckler | everything i try gets stuck at udev/kernel dependency issues |
| 15:23.47 | chuckler | well so far i.e. |
| 15:23.49 | abrotman | chuckler: ls -l /etc/udev/kernel-upgrade .. what does it say ? |
| 15:23.57 | *** join/#debian pipegeek (~pipegeek@pool-173-76-13-102.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 15:24.02 | *** join/#debian Nurbs (nurbs@nurbs.nu) |
| 15:24.15 | abrotman | and paste your actual output .. using someone else's issue is not a good idea |
| 15:24.24 | chuckler | does not exist |
| 15:24.28 | chuckler | k |
| 15:24.35 | chuckler | abortman : will do that. |
| 15:24.36 | *** part/#debian null815 (~mr@HSI-KBW-091-089-110-205.hsi2.kabelbw.de) |
| 15:24.44 | abrotman | chuckler: so you didn't actually read the error ? |
| 15:26.04 | *** part/#debian Guest34898 (~roe___@216-164-214-182.c3-0.eas-ubr15.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) |
| 15:26.19 | *** join/#debian roe (~roe___@216-164-214-182.c3-0.eas-ubr15.atw-eas.pa.cable.rcn.com) |
| 15:26.26 | chuckler | http://pastebin.com/2qRxLm2Q |
| 15:26.28 | chuckler | is my error |
| 15:27.41 | chuckler | guys: i apologise for my terrible miscommunicatons |
| 15:27.56 | chuckler | is beena long evening fiddling with this. |
| 15:28.12 | abrotman | chuckler: that is totally different |
| 15:28.12 | *** join/#debian spikerman (~thinkpddb@58.39.80.117) |
| 15:28.13 | roe | as there isn't a dhcp3 channel I'll start my question here: We are serving DHCP to two layer 3 networks on one layer 2 network. One of the layer 3 networks has 0 available in the pool. Everything works fine except the dhcp3 log fills up with, what looks like each dhclient trying both networks, failing on one and then succeeding on the other. This isn't ideal, is there any way to fix this behavior |
| 15:28.18 | abrotman | oh .. no it's not |
| 15:28.19 | chuckler | considering getting a known stable squeeze installer and trying. |
| 15:28.31 | abrotman | chuckler: squeeze is NOT stable |
| 15:28.35 | chuckler | i know. |
| 15:28.39 | *** join/#debian gnaruag (~gnaruag@122.163.92.161) |
| 15:28.44 | chuckler | is there another place i oughta be asking. |
| 15:28.46 | abrotman | chuckler: read the error message |
| 15:28.52 | chuckler | i am still trying to get it working. |
| 15:29.24 | chuckler | abortman: what specifically are you referring to? |
| 15:29.33 | *** join/#debian sash_ (~sash@dslb-084-063-077-122.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:29.39 | abrotman | the part in captial letters? |
| 15:29.49 | *** join/#debian lordnazgul (~lordnazgu@rcn-fi-gw.firstindustrial.com) |
| 15:29.55 | chuckler | i need to upgrade my kernel and THEN upgrade udev after disabling the config_sys_deprecated flag |
| 15:30.02 | chuckler | a custom compile oughta fix this. |
| 15:30.07 | chuckler | ah that :) |
| 15:30.22 | chuckler | i don;t want to force an installation of udev |
| 15:30.22 | abrotman | chuckler: see it now ? |
| 15:30.25 | abrotman | yes, you do |
| 15:30.32 | chuckler | i would much rather |
| 15:30.39 | chuckler | ah i saw it but i am chosing to ignore it |
| 15:31.01 | chuckler | because i want to upgrade my kernel and then upgrade udev |
| 15:31.12 | lordnazgul | having a problem with live-helper. when I try to build an image using the net binary image, it builds ok, but when I try to boot it, losetup gets permission denied when trying to mount it to /dev/loop0. |
| 15:31.22 | chuckler | is there a workaround? seems to be a common problem. |
| 15:31.37 | abrotman | chuckler: you setup the file it's telling you to do .. it's pretty simple |
| 15:32.02 | chuckler | hmm. maybe this is the wrong place to ask this. |
| 15:32.07 | chuckler | thanks anyways. |
| 15:32.08 | abrotman | no, you're asking the correct place |
| 15:32.15 | abrotman | you'll get the same response everywhere else |
| 15:32.23 | chuckler | then would you be a little more specific please. |
| 15:32.28 | abrotman | AT THE NEXT REBOOT by creating the /etc/udev/kernel-upgrade file. |
| 15:32.28 | abrotman | There is always a safer way to upgrade, do not try this unless you |
| 15:32.28 | abrotman | understand what you are doing! |
| 15:32.35 | abrotman | it tells you IN THE ERROR |
| 15:32.44 | chuckler | what is there to understand?> |
| 15:32.50 | chuckler | i am not asking why this error is occuring |
| 15:33.03 | chuckler | i am asking if anyone else has encountered this and has worked around it. |
| 15:33.04 | abrotman | i'm telling you how to fix it |
| 15:33.09 | abrotman | and the ERROR TELLS YOU |
| 15:33.14 | chuckler | is not such an important box |
| 15:33.17 | chuckler | how? |
| 15:33.20 | chuckler | i must be dumb |
| 15:33.22 | chuckler | :) |
| 15:33.24 | abrotman | read the whole thing .. *AGAIN* |
| 15:33.26 | chuckler | because i still don;t get it. |
| 15:33.27 | chuckler | k |
| 15:33.30 | chuckler | will try |
| 15:33.33 | hokapoka | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:33.37 | abrotman | the whole thing .. especially lines 12-16 |
| 15:33.37 | hokapoka | opps |
| 15:34.24 | chuckler | k i get that. can we move beyond that? |
| 15:34.32 | abrotman | what does it tell you to do? |
| 15:34.44 | cherwin | hokapoka: the RIAA is watching you |
| 15:34.44 | abrotman | hint: you do want to force it |
| 15:34.48 | chuckler | abortman: thx anyway. i think time is better spent googling |
| 15:34.50 | chuckler | :) |
| 15:34.55 | gnaruag | hie guys , I have got VPS having Debian 5.0 installed in it . I tried to install LAMPP , it is not working as it is 32 bit , Please suggest me how to install a webserver . Please help me guyz |
| 15:35.02 | abrotman | chuckler: the answer is right in front of you |
| 15:35.09 | abrotman | and you'll get the same answer from google |
| 15:35.32 | chuckler | :) |
| 15:35.43 | *** join/#debian likevinyl (~mikeriver@unaffiliated/likevinyl) |
| 15:35.45 | *** join/#debian NoReflex (~ionut@86.34.232.55) |
| 15:35.45 | abrotman | chuckler: why don't you understand what you have to do ? |
| 15:35.48 | azeem_ | abrotman: erm, the message says his kernel won't boot anymore, noà |
| 15:35.50 | chuckler | maybe i oughta ask the right question: how do i upgrade my kernel image |
| 15:36.10 | chuckler | then udev would naturally not have this issue since it seems to be fixed in 2.6.32 |
| 15:36.16 | abrotman | azeem_: it tells him that if he knows what he is diong to create foo_file and then the kernel and udev will both be upgraded |
| 15:36.18 | gnaruag | please help me guyz |
| 15:36.26 | *** join/#debian sepult (~user@xdsl-78-35-210-94.netcologne.de) |
| 15:36.29 | azeem_ | abrotman: he obviously does not know what he's doing |
| 15:36.40 | abrotman | azeem_: by using squeeze, not reading, or in general? |
| 15:36.58 | chuckler | uh it says it WILL break the system in the next reboot |
| 15:37.02 | chuckler | or was i the only one reading that? |
| 15:37.11 | karlpinc | gnaruag: You need to ask a better question. |
| 15:37.15 | karlpinc | !tell gnaruag about ask |
| 15:37.16 | azeem_ | well, I haven't read scrollback |
| 15:37.16 | abrotman | chuckler: 'touch /etc/udev/kernel-upgrade', then do the full-upgrade again |
| 15:37.17 | chuckler | i want to do it in a "safe" recoverable manner. |
| 15:37.29 | *** join/#debian collabra (~collabra@c-24-22-90-7.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 15:37.32 | chuckler | abortman: would that break it on the next reboot though? |
| 15:37.33 | azeem_ | abrotman: why can't he upgrade his kernel? |
| 15:37.44 | abrotman | azeem_: it doesn't say he can't |
| 15:38.00 | NoReflex | hello! where can I find the logs for upstart or init.d? I have postgresql-8.4 and I can start it manually via /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.4. However it won't autostart even thought there are links in /etc/rc*.d to /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.4 |
| 15:38.16 | azeem_ | abrotman: so isn't the better option to upgrade the kernel instead? |
| 15:38.25 | azeem_ | along* |
| 15:38.52 | abrotman | chuckler: dpkg -l linux-image-2.6.32* |
| 15:39.10 | abrotman | azeem_: unless he's not using the metapackage (which would be ssilly) he already has |
| 15:39.15 | chuckler | no packages found. |
| 15:39.18 | abrotman | it's complaining about his running kernel |
| 15:39.23 | karlpinc | NoReflex: man bootlogd. See also /etc/default/bootlogd |
| 15:39.30 | abrotman | chuckler: what is your current 'uname -r' ? |
| 15:39.30 | chuckler | abrotman: correct. |
| 15:39.35 | chuckler | 2.6.26 |
| 15:39.41 | karlpinc | NoReflex: Or perhaps /var/log/daemon. |
| 15:39.46 | abrotman | that's not what uname -r says |
| 15:39.47 | *** join/#debian kubian (~quassel@adsl-76-237-186-101.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 15:40.01 | chuckler | 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 15:40.02 | chuckler | :) sorry |
| 15:40.09 | *** join/#debian danorsk (~danorsk@rps6621.ovh.net) |
| 15:40.15 | abrotman | chuckler: is linux-image-686 or linux-image-2.6-686 installed ? |
| 15:40.24 | chuckler | let me see. |
| 15:40.27 | *** part/#debian danorsk (~danorsk@rps6621.ovh.net) |
| 15:40.30 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@20158149134.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 15:40.38 | chuckler | no |
| 15:40.40 | chuckler | i tried it |
| 15:40.47 | *** join/#debian solar_sea (~solar@85.14.14.82) |
| 15:40.58 | azeem_ | chuckler: you tried it with lenny sources or something |
| 15:40.59 | chuckler | i remember now. no it refuses to install with he same error |
| 15:41.02 | chuckler | nope |
| 15:41.08 | chuckler | i only used the lenny installer |
| 15:41.15 | chuckler | and tried to do a distupgrade |
| 15:41.21 | *** join/#debian n-iCe (nice@unaffiliated/nice/x-729832) |
| 15:41.21 | chuckler | so i probably DID do that |
| 15:41.24 | abrotman | the lenny installer does install the metapackage |
| 15:41.49 | NoReflex | karlpinc: /var/log/boot says: (Nothing has been logged yet.) and in /var/log/daemon.log I can find a few messages Mar 15 17:01:25 safefleet init: apport pre-start process (1099) terminated with status 1 - but nothing about postgres |
| 15:41.57 | abrotman | chuckler: does 'aptitude install linux-image-686' |
| 15:41.58 | abrotman | work ? |
| 15:42.51 | chuckler | abortman: http://pastie.org/870446 |
| 15:42.59 | chuckler | is the output |
| 15:43.28 | NoReflex | karlpinc: I guess I should enable boot logging - any idea how to do that? |
| 15:43.29 | abrotman | say yes ? |
| 15:43.44 | karlpinc | NoReflex: bootlogd is off by default due to a bug. You would need to turn it on and reboot. Or put a serial console in and have it log the output. That's all-around more powerful. Yes, /etc/default/bootlogd. |
| 15:44.20 | abrotman | chuckler: let me put it this way .. you have to upgrade udev, udev needs a newer kernel, your udev is failing because of your *running* kernel, you're trying to fix this by installing a newer kernel |
| 15:44.27 | *** join/#debian g0n (~ggon@171.Red-80-38-102.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:44.38 | chuckler | http://pastie.org/870449 |
| 15:44.43 | chuckler | correct |
| 15:44.44 | *** join/#debian km (~km@65.115.85.246) |
| 15:44.52 | chuckler | circular nightmares :) |
| 15:44.52 | NoReflex | karlpinc: trying now; thx |
| 15:45.08 | chuckler | i am trying to do a full-upgrade |
| 15:45.28 | chuckler | and then upgrading udev so then rest of the upgrade can continue. |
| 15:45.31 | lordnazgul | having a problem with live-helper. when I try to build an image using the net binary image, it builds ok, but when I try to boot it, losetup gets permission denied when trying to mount it to /dev/loop0. |
| 15:45.54 | abrotman | chuckler: wget http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/linux-image-2.6.32-3-686_2.6.32-9_i386.deb |
| 15:46.11 | azeem_ | OMG, this sounds like a support nightmare to come |
| 15:46.18 | *** join/#debian R430R (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 15:46.47 | abrotman | azeem_: you know it |
| 15:46.53 | aurelien | Linux version 2.6.33-libre-planet (*@*) (gcc version 4.3.2 (Debian 4.3.2-1.1) ) #1 SMP Mon Mar 8 19:46:27 SST 2010 works well on debian and full libre debian and you have a good how to http://groups.fsf.org/wiki/Libre_Kernel_Group :-) |
| 15:46.54 | *** join/#debian UserReg_CL (~COB@pc-51-211-30-200.cm.vtr.net) |
| 15:47.08 | abrotman | azeem_: this is like the last time they mucked up the udev dist-upgrade |
| 15:47.19 | abrotman | requiring people to jump through hoops, etc |
| 15:47.43 | *** join/#debian DDave (~DDave@unaffiliated/ddave) |
| 15:48.14 | *** join/#debian manic (~manicman@wlan-client-299.informatik.uni-bremen.de) |
| 15:48.15 | *** join/#debian manic (~manicman@unaffiliated/manicman) |
| 15:49.12 | helo | my sources.list is the same on these two machines, but aptitude search libgpmg1 only return libgpmg1-dev on one machine, and returns libgpmg1 and libgpmg1-dev on the other |
| 15:49.44 | Vasistha | helo: have you done an apt-get update recently? |
| 15:49.53 | *** join/#debian Biolunar (mahdi@blfd-4db1933e.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 15:50.03 | *** join/#debian McBonZ (~mcbonz@toreador.user.wh-stuttgart.de) |
| 15:50.22 | helo | Vasistha: yeah, just did it on both |
| 15:50.28 | *** join/#debian careta (~botto@134.219.139.96) |
| 15:50.33 | *** join/#debian ania_ (~ania@cpc1-wolv4-0-0-cust347.wolv.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 15:50.51 | *** join/#debian botto__ (~botto@134.219.139.96) |
| 15:51.07 | chuckler | abrotman: cool it installed. a reboot and it oughta continue right? |
| 15:51.17 | chuckler | with punctuatons |
| 15:51.29 | *** join/#debian jaco (~jaco@41.177.13.105) |
| 15:51.34 | helo | one machine was upgraded from etch, the other is a debootstrap |
| 15:51.36 | wols | helo: do an apt-cache policy for both packages on both machines |
| 15:51.51 | wols | and pastebin the results |
| 15:51.55 | *** join/#debian Raphael_S (~Raphael_S@r311-pb-itajai.ibys.com.br) |
| 15:52.02 | *** part/#debian Raphael_S (~Raphael_S@r311-pb-itajai.ibys.com.br) |
| 15:52.20 | *** join/#debian praseodymium (~mark@cafe.praseodym.net) |
| 15:52.42 | abrotman | chuckler: no .. aptitude full-upgrade .. see where it is |
| 15:53.06 | chuckler | just a sec |
| 15:53.15 | chuckler | i already rebooted. ! |
| 15:53.43 | *** join/#debian praseodymium (~mark@cafe.praseodym.net) |
| 15:54.07 | chuckler | excellent udev did not complain |
| 15:54.10 | km | what cmd can i use to check to see if apache process is in the wait state? |
| 15:54.11 | azeem_ | ,16:52 < Np237> themill: it has everything to do with aptitude. The udev upgrade will succeed if the kernel is installed in the same dpkg run. |
| 15:54.15 | chuckler | abrotman: thanks |
| 15:54.31 | helo | wols: http://codepad.org/azkkFz8I |
| 15:55.16 | chuckler | abrotman: aptitude full-upgrade seems to be proceeding along just fine |
| 15:55.19 | *** join/#debian Raphael_S (~Raphael_S@r311-pb-itajai.ibys.com.br) |
| 15:55.26 | *** part/#debian Raphael_S (~Raphael_S@r311-pb-itajai.ibys.com.br) |
| 15:55.29 | abrotman | hides |
| 15:56.37 | *** join/#debian AlHafoudh (~alhafoudh@77.93.192.244) |
| 15:57.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 948] by debhelper |
| 15:57.12 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 15:57.33 | *** join/#debian smeea (~smeea@89.163.26.137) |
| 15:57.48 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@64.210.44.37) |
| 15:58.51 | *** join/#debian g0bl1n (~pr0kter@a213-22-200-76.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 15:58.54 | helo | copies /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1.19.6 manually |
| 15:59.19 | wols | helo: choose another mirror, preferably outside the US and update. both of them |
| 15:59.42 | wols | ,versions libgpgmg1 |
| 15:59.43 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'libgpgmg1' was found. |
| 16:00.01 | wols | helo: what you want is not in debian... |
| 16:00.07 | helo | typo, should be libgpmg1 |
| 16:00.14 | *** join/#debian AlHafoudh (~alhafoudh@77.93.192.244) |
| 16:00.18 | wols | oh. mea culpa. typo |
| 16:00.24 | wols | ,versions libgpmg1 |
| 16:00.25 | judd | libgpmg1 -- etch: 1.19.6-25 |
| 16:00.34 | helo | ahh, leftover from etch... |
| 16:00.36 | wols | ah.still not in debian. not anymore :P |
| 16:01.05 | helo | hmm... this software is linked (probably superflously) to it... i will have to force it :/ |
| 16:01.15 | wols | since the -dev still exists somewhat I guess there is a lib to accompany it as well |
| 16:01.16 | helo | superfluously bah |
| 16:01.38 | helo | the strange part is that /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1.19.6 is in libgpmg1, and NOT libgpmg1-dev |
| 16:01.43 | *** join/#debian Worf (~worf@84-119-57-132.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 16:01.54 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@secure.dreampark.se) |
| 16:02.12 | wols | helo: there is a libgpm2 |
| 16:02.14 | NoReflex | karlpinc: I also had to do update-rc.d bootlogd defaults and now the files doesn't say (Nothing has been logged yet.) instead the file is empty |
| 16:02.28 | *** join/#debian abchirk (~abchirk@unaffiliated/abchirk) |
| 16:04.21 | NoReflex | unfortunately the machine is at a remote location and I can't plug in a monitor to see what happens |
| 16:04.25 | helo | the program is linked to... both |
| 16:04.40 | *** join/#debian Lorvija (~lorvija@77.109.220.239) |
| 16:07.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 938] by debhelper |
| 16:07.24 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~SkG@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) |
| 16:07.31 | *** join/#debian gnaruag (~gnaruag@122.163.92.161) |
| 16:07.44 | *** join/#debian brckrx (~CAMPOS@200.85.30.224) |
| 16:07.56 | *** join/#debian cahoot (~radix@pdpc/supporter/active/cahoot) |
| 16:08.23 | *** part/#debian brckrx (~CAMPOS@200.85.30.224) |
| 16:08.23 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@99-196-115-171.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 16:08.57 | NoReflex | karlpinc: any idea why the boot file in var/log would be empty? |
| 16:10.00 | pom | On Lenny, I'd like to install a recent version of ImageMagick. aptitude -t unstable install imagemagick suggests that I also install serveral other pacakges from unstable, some of which I'm not comfortable upgrading to sid. Is there anyone that know the proper way to solve this? |
| 16:10.26 | *** join/#debian matu (~matu@client80-83-43-207.abo.net2000.ch) |
| 16:11.16 | xayon | pom: have you tried backporting it? |
| 16:11.18 | xayon | !backports |
| 16:11.18 | dpkg | hmm... backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.org/. Ask me about <backports.org> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 16:11.31 | xayon | !simple sid backport |
| 16:11.31 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 16:11.58 | pom | xayon: No, but I will. Thanks. |
| 16:14.00 | *** join/#debian R430R (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 16:14.05 | helo | wols: thanks for your help ;) |
| 16:15.13 | *** join/#debian subcon (~subcon@vpn.sol.xensiis.net) |
| 16:15.35 | abrotman | chuckler: all worked out ? |
| 16:15.38 | *** join/#debian amsterdam (~nixda@xdsl-87-79-160-175.netcologne.de) |
| 16:16.08 | *** join/#debian HandyGandy (~HandyGand@adsl-76-197-138-47.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 16:16.28 | HandyGandy | How can I list the files installed by a package? |
| 16:16.45 | wols | dpkg -L package |
| 16:16.45 | dpkg | ii package 3.9-3.3 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 16:16.54 | *** join/#debian amsterdam (~nixda@xdsl-87-79-160-175.netcologne.de) |
| 16:16.57 | *** join/#debian Xilent (~Karsten@pdpc/supporter/active/xilent) |
| 16:17.04 | chuckler | abrotman: going fine so far. |
| 16:17.06 | HandyGandy | Thanks wols |
| 16:17.57 | *** join/#debian MJS (~MJS@p4FD09B24.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:18.06 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 16:18.17 | *** join/#debian WormFood (~wormfood@58.60.223.32) |
| 16:18.43 | *** join/#debian user_ (~user@91-113-104-177.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 16:19.03 | *** join/#debian pierreghz (~pierre@cust-29-121-111-94.dyn.as47377.net) |
| 16:19.59 | *** join/#debian datacrusher (~crls@unaffiliated/datacrusher) |
| 16:20.05 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@217.28.0.43) |
| 16:20.12 | *** join/#debian ania_ (~ania@cpc1-wolv4-0-0-cust347.wolv.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 16:20.18 | *** join/#debian pipegeek (~pipegeek@pool-173-76-13-102.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 16:24.46 | *** join/#debian NielsoN (~nielson@189.82.103.218) |
| 16:25.52 | *** join/#debian surf_ (~surf@93-39-25-152.ip73.fastwebnet.it) |
| 16:25.53 | rdz | hi all. how can i find out, where a certain environment variable was set? when i start a ssh session onto my debian box, LC_ALL=C is set, but i can't figure where it is set |
| 16:26.00 | surf_ | does 504 support ext4? |
| 16:26.28 | *** join/#debian terrygardner (~terrygard@70.102.172.126) |
| 16:26.29 | *** join/#debian Ergo^ (~ergo@pc-55018.zdnet.com.pl) |
| 16:26.32 | *** join/#debian contrains (~contrains@dsl001-161-007.stl1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 16:26.33 | *** join/#debian Sememmon (~Sememmon@unaffiliated/sememmon) |
| 16:26.40 | wols | surf_: no |
| 16:26.52 | wols | surf_: with backports, it might |
| 16:27.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 947] by debhelper |
| 16:27.14 | surf_ | so if I have a partition formatted in ext4 how can I switch to debian? |
| 16:27.14 | wols | !tell rdz about locales |
| 16:27.15 | surf_ | I mean |
| 16:27.19 | surf_ | my /home is ext4 |
| 16:27.20 | *** join/#debian Elshar (Elshar@you.want.to.eat.elshars.cheekan.org) |
| 16:27.27 | wols | !tell surf_ about kmuto |
| 16:27.30 | surf_ | I'm switching from ubuntu |
| 16:27.45 | wols | surf_: that installerkernel should have ext4 support |
| 16:28.08 | surf_ | oh thx I'm gonna read it |
| 16:28.25 | rdz | wols, i already did run 'dpkg-reconfigure locales', but still i cannot type umlaute in the terminal |
| 16:28.50 | rdz | LANG=en_US.UTF-8 is set as language, which is what i want |
| 16:30.44 | *** join/#debian Rapsodius (~ariel@190.55.212.114) |
| 16:31.04 | *** join/#debian phox (~phox@frankenbrick.pcic.uvic.ca) |
| 16:31.10 | Rapsodius | Hi! |
| 16:31.12 | *** join/#debian radoe_ (WhoCares@unaffiliated/radoe) |
| 16:31.21 | *** join/#debian themill (~stuart@unaffiliated/themill) |
| 16:31.33 | Rapsodius | I need some advice on midi files |
| 16:31.41 | phox | hi. uh. so how do I get around the fact that mdraid stuff is a module and thereby breaks FS mounting at startup? |
| 16:31.50 | *** join/#debian Guest73907 (~mentor@unaffiliated/mentor) |
| 16:32.08 | *** join/#debian iViLe (~bob@c114-76-23-136.eburwd4.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 16:32.36 | *** part/#debian Guest73907 (~mentor@unaffiliated/mentor) |
| 16:32.50 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@unaffiliated/mentor) |
| 16:32.58 | surf_ | wols, why is it so thin ( 170 megs )? |
| 16:33.49 | *** join/#debian gentgeen__ (~kevin@65.105.38.211.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 16:33.57 | abrotman | surf_: it's a netinst .. just enough to get a base system, the rest is downloaded from your sources http/ftp |
| 16:33.59 | phox | aroo? |
| 16:34.22 | surf_ | k perfect. I'm gonna try install it on virtual machine first |
| 16:34.50 | wols | phox: you put it inside the initrd |
| 16:35.10 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 16:35.59 | Rapsodius | I installed timidity and freepats, but the things sound terrible |
| 16:36.47 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 16:37.24 | Rapsodius | I got some other soundfonts, fluid-soundfont-gm and fluid-soundfont-gs |
| 16:37.57 | *** join/#debian buntfalke (~nobody@unaffiliated/buntfalke) |
| 16:38.00 | Rapsodius | which were more decent, but it felt like half of the orchestra went spring break <grin> |
| 16:38.09 | *** join/#debian gentgeen__ (~kevin@65.105.38.211.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 16:38.13 | Rapsodius | (ie missing instruments) |
| 16:38.47 | phox | also wth, my RAID array is coming up as md127 |
| 16:38.52 | asaleem | Is there a way to find current time of a remote server without ssh into it |
| 16:38.56 | phox | as in its preferred minor is being ignored |
| 16:39.09 | petemc | asaleem: what access do you have to it? |
| 16:39.14 | Rapsodius | so, here comes the million dollar question: How do I put the dreaded GM.DLS -> GM.SF2, i found something on debian forums, dated 2006, link dead |
| 16:40.19 | asaleem | petemc, no access. It's a client that allows access only for updates. And I dont want to request access only to its check time zone |
| 16:40.58 | jhutchins_lt | asaleem: It might respond to ntpq or ntpdate |
| 16:41.17 | jhutchins_lt | That wouldn't return the zone though. |
| 16:41.53 | asaleem | jhutchins, with telnet to port 80, I was able to get the time but it was in GMT |
| 16:42.13 | jhutchins_lt | asaleem: Right. |
| 16:42.28 | jhutchins_lt | asaleem: You will notice that web pages that display time use your local timezone, not the server's. |
| 16:43.12 | *** join/#debian mobidev (~mobidev@94.127.205.30) |
| 16:43.59 | Rapsodius | ehh--- I'm still here you know... |
| 16:44.27 | *** join/#debian jzacsh (~jzacsh@64.134.241.150) |
| 16:44.41 | asaleem | jhutchins, yeah, I remember noticing somewhere that I can get time of remote host which would also tells its timezone. Dont remember, though |
| 16:44.56 | *** join/#debian ignite (~user@howle.org) |
| 16:46.21 | phox | grrr damn this amateur distro :| |
| 16:46.31 | phox | facedesk |
| 16:47.12 | *** join/#debian LinuXY (~ian@68-185-67-45.dhcp.trlk.ca.charter.com) |
| 16:47.32 | phox | PATH is set wrong in a clean Squeeze install. brilliant. |
| 16:47.44 | *** join/#debian Meise (~meise@2001:470:1f0b:15a5:21d:7dff:fee9:776a) |
| 16:48.31 | *** join/#debian amsterdam (~nixda@xdsl-87-79-142-26.netcologne.de) |
| 16:49.09 | abrotman | phox: file a bug |
| 16:49.12 | lindi- | phox: i think i reported that bug |
| 16:49.21 | phox | lindi-: ha |
| 16:49.22 | rvsjoen | what's wrong with it |
| 16:49.27 | rdz | wols, thanks for the tips. I checked all the points in the wikipage, but still i see an (arg: 6) when typing an 'ö' in terminal. also the LC_ALL=C is not inherited from my ssh session, since locally the variable LC_ALL is not set. it seems that it is set system-wide since all users suffer from that problem on that maschine |
| 16:49.28 | phox | it's missing /usr/sbin/ |
| 16:49.33 | *** join/#debian macrobat (~fuzzyglee@h-150-127.A163.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 16:49.35 | rvsjoen | for root ? |
| 16:49.37 | phox | yes. |
| 16:49.42 | abrotman | phox: i think the idea is that /usr/ might not be mounted yet |
| 16:49.46 | lindi- | phox: with ssh? |
| 16:49.49 | phox | abrotman: |
| 16:49.51 | phox | er |
| 16:49.53 | abrotman | phox: |
| 16:49.56 | phox | lindi-: no, console |
| 16:49.59 | phox | abrotman: ! |
| 16:50.02 | abrotman | phox: ! |
| 16:50.06 | abrotman | can play too! |
| 16:50.08 | lindi- | phox: please read http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=571086 |
| 16:50.11 | phox | abrotman: it shouldn't matter, though; if the path doesn't exist that's fine. |
| 16:50.18 | abrotman | phox: tried full path ? |
| 16:50.25 | phox | abrotman: of course that works. |
| 16:50.33 | phox | abrotman: it's just stupid that some goof managed to leave it out. |
| 16:50.41 | phox | I kinda like being able to get at things like initramfs-tools |
| 16:50.42 | abrotman | phox: probably intenitional |
| 16:50.53 | phox | abrotman: it seems there's a lot of intentional breakage in debian |
| 16:51.00 | phox | like, er, having usb_hid as a module.... :| |
| 16:51.16 | factor | what program do I use to connect eth0 via dhcp to COX cable service I can connect dhcp simply with ifup but not on cox. |
| 16:51.46 | *** join/#debian antgel (~topdog@bzq-79-180-48-213.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 16:51.47 | *** join/#debian mypapit_ (~mypapit@60.52.36.210) |
| 16:52.42 | *** join/#debian tombhadAC (~tombhad@pD95DD501.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:53.58 | *** join/#debian halflife08 (~halflife@gatekeeper.athenahealth.com) |
| 16:53.59 | karlpinc | factor: No telling. But it might be pppoe based. |
| 16:54.05 | *** join/#debian KamusHadenes (~kamushade@hyadesinc/lord/hadenes/kamushadenes) |
| 16:54.08 | abrotman | phox: if you read lindi-'s bug .. you'll see the reason i believe |
| 16:54.11 | factor | hummm |
| 16:54.22 | abrotman | phox: seems to be a transition thing that was just caught |
| 16:54.42 | lindi- | abrotman: transition? openssh does not support X forwarding with login |
| 16:54.50 | abrotman | yours was dropbear ? |
| 16:54.58 | lindi- | abrotman: it affects openssh too |
| 16:54.58 | factor | <karlpinc>I can get an ip with one method but the routing info never gets managed. would that be a symptom ppoe |
| 16:55.02 | lindi- | abrotman: and lsh-server |
| 16:55.03 | abrotman | lindi-: ah ok |
| 16:55.14 | *** join/#debian GeetarJake (~jgreen@216.207.124.226) |
| 16:55.15 | phox | wols: driver's already in initrd |
| 16:55.22 | lindi- | abrotman: simply because i was using dropbear the bug got less attention :) |
| 16:55.25 | *** part/#debian GeetarJake (~jgreen@216.207.124.226) |
| 16:55.29 | lindi- | abrotman: please try to convince the maintainer :) |
| 16:55.42 | abrotman | lindi-: maybe /etc/profile should source login.defs ? |
| 16:55.46 | phox | so I'm back to square one: what's up with getting mdraid to behave itself at boot when it's a module? |
| 16:55.51 | lindi- | abrotman: login.defs is not shell script |
| 16:56.01 | lindi- | abrotman: its in login's own format |
| 16:56.06 | abrotman | lovely |
| 16:56.26 | lindi- | abrotman: to make matters worse, uploading new base-files can not fix this for existing installation |
| 16:56.36 | *** join/#debian Bohemian (~Bohemian@32.143.211.167) |
| 16:56.43 | lindi- | abrotman: since /etc/profile is not part of any package |
| 16:57.25 | abrotman | but it could ... alter it |
| 16:57.29 | themill | lindi-: that's not really a concern for the maintainer though. Testing is called testing for a reason. |
| 16:57.45 | factor | <karlpinc>I think it is DSL that is ppoe cabel usualy has been just ethernet .. but not for sure |
| 16:57.47 | lindi- | themill: sure |
| 16:58.02 | *** join/#debian ManateeLazyCat (~user@121.13.173.198) |
| 16:58.04 | Bohemian | i setup a VM of lenny. i just tried to install drupal and it says your web server does not support common db types. i have psql installed. help? |
| 16:58.15 | themill | lindi-: that is quite a curious bug though, I must say. |
| 16:58.36 | lindi- | abrotman: phox: themill: please test and report your experiences to the maintainer so that he realizes that its not limited to dropbear :) |
| 16:59.23 | *** join/#debian Third3ye1 (~Third3ye@c06304BC1.dhcp.bluecom.no) |
| 16:59.36 | abrotman | lindi-: has the maintainer responded to your updates yet? |
| 16:59.45 | lindi- | abrotman: it's all in the BTS |
| 16:59.55 | lindi- | abrotman: so no |
| 17:00.03 | abrotman | lindi-: he isn't seeing it .. he reassigned it |
| 17:00.14 | lindi- | abrotman: i did keep him in To: i think |
| 17:00.20 | *** join/#debian mino (~mino@p5B33C9A1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:00.25 | abrotman | ah yes |
| 17:00.29 | *** join/#debian thrashold (~europan@3mhz.net) |
| 17:00.56 | lindi- | i don't want to write further arguments before i get a reply really. but other people should test and report :) |
| 17:00.58 | abrotman | lindi-: you could whine to the debian-devel mailing list, see if anyone thinks it's a real issue ? |
| 17:01.08 | jhutchins_lt | Bohemian: You might want to look at the drupal web page for system requirements. |
| 17:01.38 | mino | Hi. I'm using shorewall with in/outbound firewalling. I want to access my samba shares, but with shorewall running it doesnt work. But i see no "reject or block" messages in my messages log... "shorewall clear" and everything works fine. Any advice? |
| 17:01.46 | Bohemian | jhutchins_lt: it supports psql |
| 17:01.50 | Bohemian | so i'm not sure what the issue is |
| 17:02.13 | lindi- | abrotman: i'm too busy sorry :( |
| 17:02.19 | mino | my loglevel is "info" so i think this should show every reject or block of netfilter |
| 17:02.30 | abrotman | lindi-: it's just one .. more .. email! :) |
| 17:03.23 | *** join/#debian nork (~nork@tofu.cae.wisc.edu) |
| 17:04.50 | *** join/#debian plagerism (~shipclar@142.214.69.216) |
| 17:05.16 | mns | what's the program to do disk partitioning ? fdisk ? this is on Debian/ppc. |
| 17:05.17 | jhutchins_lt | lindi-: If you're too busy to work on your own bugs, we should take up the slack for you? |
| 17:05.27 | wintix | is it possible to bind a whole subnet to an interface? e.g. 10.0.0.0/8 -> eth0 |
| 17:05.33 | *** join/#debian Sia- (~sia@unaffiliated/desian) |
| 17:05.44 | jhutchins_lt | mns: fdisk manpage recommends cfdisk, there's partedit as well. |
| 17:05.51 | jhutchins_lt | I prefer the fdisk format myself. |
| 17:06.01 | wintix | i have been thinking abou it for some time but can't figure out a sensitive way. |
| 17:06.07 | jhutchins_lt | wintix: I think you want to define a route. |
| 17:06.29 | *** join/#debian badcloud (~raanan@ti400720a342-0077.bb.online.no) |
| 17:06.46 | dutchfish | wintix: and what would be your gateway? |
| 17:07.09 | *** join/#debian gentgeen__ (~kevin@65.105.38.211.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 17:07.30 | lindi- | jhutchins_lt: ? |
| 17:07.37 | phox | ok got it fixed |
| 17:07.39 | wintix | jhutchins_lt, dutchfish: no, i don't want a route. the local machine should answer all incoming connections for 10.0.0.0/8 on e.g. interface eth0 |
| 17:08.15 | dutchfish | wintix: then you just add all those ip's one by one to the interface |
| 17:08.25 | *** join/#debian pLk (~svaurek@xdsl-92-252-83-89.dip.osnanet.de) |
| 17:08.39 | jhutchins_lt | wintix: A) If you know the answer, why are you asking here? B) Yes, a route is what you want. |
| 17:08.41 | *** join/#debian steve_irwin (~f@adsl-233-222-38.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 17:08.48 | steve_irwin | can anyone give me a spotify invite code |
| 17:08.49 | steve_irwin | plz |
| 17:09.04 | chuckler | abrotman: Current status: 0 broken [-3], 0 updates [-483]. |
| 17:09.10 | *** join/#debian Hans_Henrik (~chatzilla@ti0131a340-0813.bb.online.no) |
| 17:09.22 | Hans_Henrik | any1 know if the "ophcrack livecd" is linux-based? |
| 17:09.30 | wintix | jhutchins_lt: hmm. a route. |
| 17:09.33 | *** join/#debian jaco (~jaco@41.177.13.105) |
| 17:09.49 | wintix | jhutchins_lt, dutchfish: thanks for the hints, i will give it a try. |
| 17:10.01 | wols | Hans_Henrik: and you ask this #debian why? |
| 17:10.06 | themill | steve_irwin: exactly what does that have to do with debian? |
| 17:10.19 | *** join/#debian Gilde (~Gilde@dslb-092-076-140-180.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 17:10.20 | jhutchins_lt | wintix: something like route add gw 10.0.0.0/8 eth0 |
| 17:10.47 | Hans_Henrik | wols: because i hope someone here has the answer :p |
| 17:10.53 | jhutchins_lt | wintix: NOT default gw, just gw. |
| 17:11.24 | wintix | jhutchins_lt: if i do that, all traffic destined for that subnet will be routed out of eth0 and not get answered. or am i getting this wrong? |
| 17:11.42 | Rapsodius | steve_irwin are you a spammer? |
| 17:11.55 | Rapsodius | you're also on #ubuntu asking the same |
| 17:12.02 | wols | Hans_Henrik: go away and come back when you have a debian related question |
| 17:12.21 | jhutchins_lt | wintix: What will happen is that traffic for that subnet generated by the server (ie replies) will be routed through that interface. |
| 17:12.48 | *** part/#debian NeoLobster (~NeoLobste@snugglenets.com) |
| 17:13.03 | *** mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ |
| 17:13.05 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@74.233.222.38] by themill |
| 17:13.06 | *** kick/#debian [steve_irwin!~stuart@unaffiliated/themill] by themill (You should know better) |
| 17:13.09 | *** mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill |
| 17:14.23 | jhutchins_lt | wintix: If you wanted to forward traffic you'd have to set up forwarding rules in iptables. |
| 17:15.11 | Hans_Henrik | wols: right.. |
| 17:15.13 | Hans_Henrik | i have followed this guide http://ping.windowsdream.com/ping/doc-2.01/pxe.html to make a computer boot by lan, could i do simmilar to boot debian off the LAN? |
| 17:15.44 | wols | yes, debian can boot via pxe.you can install it via pxe too |
| 17:16.12 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.223.57.72) |
| 17:17.02 | Rapsodius | Can you suggest a better channel to ask my question? |
| 17:17.29 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@r2r157.net.upc.cz) |
| 17:17.52 | Titan8990 | Rapsodius: what was your question? |
| 17:17.53 | wols | Rapsodius: a timidity channel? a google search? |
| 17:18.04 | jhutchins_lt | Rapsodius: What was the question? |
| 17:18.11 | Titan8990 | can't even find it in the scrollback |
| 17:18.34 | Rapsodius | askin aabout timidity and windows gm.dls |
| 17:18.40 | *** join/#debian hab-keinen-name (~hab-keine@86.56.20.106) |
| 17:18.42 | *** join/#debian jceb (~jceb@brmn-4dbc8079.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 17:19.29 | Rapsodius | actually googled, thats why asked here |
| 17:19.43 | *** join/#debian cusco (~trilili@2001:0:53aa:64c:3cad:26fc:2ac0:762d) |
| 17:19.44 | cusco | hi |
| 17:19.50 | Rapsodius | and my irc client doesn't list channels :( |
| 17:20.11 | cusco | is there any tool to edit and compile a .fla file for linux? |
| 17:20.25 | Bohemian | how do i compile mysql with php5 support? |
| 17:20.30 | cusco | Rapsodius: in freenode you use the bot to list channels |
| 17:20.44 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: you use the debian provided package |
| 17:20.46 | cusco | so if you can send and receive text in a channel, you can do the same with a bot |
| 17:20.50 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: or you ask #mysql |
| 17:20.52 | wols | cusco: check shockweaver |
| 17:20.58 | cusco | thanks wols |
| 17:21.12 | cusco | nice name by the way heh |
| 17:21.15 | Bohemian | Titan8990: just by typing aptitude install mysql it will include php support? |
| 17:21.23 | Rapsodius | cusco: how do I do that? |
| 17:21.27 | wols | Bohemian: no it won't. apt-cache search mysql |grep php |
| 17:21.39 | wols | Rapsodius: /msg alis list |
| 17:23.08 | *** mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ |
| 17:23.10 | *** mode/#debian [-b *!*@74.233.222.38] by themill |
| 17:23.13 | *** mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill |
| 17:23.30 | *** join/#debian CargolSS (~marius@188.26.36.212) |
| 17:24.59 | *** join/#debian LuciusMare (~LuciusMar@187.110.broadband4.iol.cz) |
| 17:25.10 | LuciusMare | Hi, how to extract .deb packages? |
| 17:25.15 | *** join/#debian NoReflex (~ionut@86.34.4.14) |
| 17:25.16 | sash_ | ar |
| 17:25.36 | LuciusMare | thanks |
| 17:25.44 | Bohemian | what is the difference between sql and sqlite? |
| 17:25.52 | mns | how do I fix a superblock issue with my drive ? I can't reformat or repartition it as its got a lot of data on it. fsck says "The filesystem size (according to the superblock) is 267386872 blocks, The physical size of the device is 243142062 blocks". Anyone have suggestions ? |
| 17:26.07 | wols | sql is a programming/query language. sqlite is a program |
| 17:26.55 | Rapsodius | or could be dpkg -x |
| 17:27.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 953] by debhelper |
| 17:27.43 | NoReflex | hello! I'm having a problem with upstart in Ubuntu. It won't start postgresql at boot. I tried installing upstart 0.6.3.10 as suggested here http://superuser.com/questions/98702/how-to-make-postgresql-start-at-boot-time-in-ubuntu but with that version neither postgresql nor my virtualbox VM_Start script started. I asked this on the #ubuntu channel a few times but got no response. |
| 17:28.14 | wols | NoReflex: go back to #ubuntu |
| 17:28.15 | *** join/#debian _xbow (~xbow@84.42.33.46) |
| 17:28.22 | *** join/#debian sshc (~sshc@unaffiliated/sshc) |
| 17:28.26 | Titan8990 | !they don't know |
| 17:28.26 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 17:29.10 | NoReflex | well...that's nice; thx |
| 17:29.16 | *** join/#debian AimHere (~bod@host86-170-85-79.range86-170.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:29.19 | isfranc | i can have a 64 bits kernel and a 32 systeme ? |
| 17:29.35 | wols | isfranc: yes |
| 17:29.44 | halflife08 | mns: did fsck throw any errors ? is your filesystem on lvm or is straight out on the disk ? |
| 17:29.48 | isfranc | for have a 64 bits full system, exist an option for install ? |
| 17:29.59 | wols | isfranc: you use a amd64 installer |
| 17:30.00 | isfranc | because i have too much probleme compile |
| 17:30.16 | isfranc | look |
| 17:30.20 | isfranc | dpkg : erreur de traitement de libssl-dev_0.9.8m-2_amd64.deb (--install) : |
| 17:30.20 | isfranc | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:30.20 | isfranc | Des erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution : |
| 17:30.32 | *** join/#debian digitalmortician (~digitalmo@84-73-223-25.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 17:30.45 | wols | isfranc: paste more crap in here and get ignored fast |
| 17:31.02 | Will| | account off |
| 17:31.04 | Will| | er, oops |
| 17:31.11 | *** join/#debian Mutex_ (~Mutex@c-21e170d5.08-107-7570701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 17:31.16 | babilen | isfranc: If you want to use amd64 userland you'll have to reinstall. You can run a 64bit kernel with 32bit userland without problems though |
| 17:31.18 | dutchfish | isfranc: you cant install amd64 packages inside a i386 install |
| 17:31.28 | cusco | wols: I can't find how to open .fla files with shockweaver and it seems to lack documentation, have you ever used it? |
| 17:31.44 | wols | cusco: I don't. is fla a flash "binary"? |
| 17:31.46 | cusco | seems like I can create new files and export to flash and use inkscape2fla |
| 17:31.50 | cusco | wols: no |
| 17:31.51 | *** join/#debian JohGro (~johan@212.85.88.174) |
| 17:31.57 | *** join/#debian mobidev (~mobidev@94.127.205.30) |
| 17:32.04 | isfranc | ok i think a can find a how too in google for install amd64 |
| 17:32.05 | cusco | .fla is the source with all the actionscript, when compiled produces a swf |
| 17:32.07 | wols | cusco: .fla is actionscript sourcecode? if so, why not use an editor? |
| 17:32.16 | cusco | but it is not text, somehow |
| 17:32.24 | cusco | Desktop/wizard.fla: CDF V2 Document, corrupt: Cannot read summary info |
| 17:32.26 | wols | so it IS a binary. a bullshit proprietary fileformat |
| 17:32.28 | babilen | isfranc: Just follow the Debian installation guide for am64 |
| 17:32.32 | zinx | that sounds like Adobe right there |
| 17:32.32 | cusco | :( |
| 17:32.34 | cusco | I know |
| 17:32.36 | babilen | !tell isfranc -about ig |
| 17:32.48 | wols | cool. not even the fileidentifier adobe could get right |
| 17:32.49 | mns | halflife08: it is a ext3 partition. there is no lvm. the error I gave is from fsck. |
| 17:32.59 | Bohemian | anybody here know anything about ec2? |
| 17:33.02 | wols | cusco: hope some windows program can read .fla and runs under wine, sorry |
| 17:33.04 | cusco | I know its bollocks... |
| 17:33.08 | cusco | :( |
| 17:33.14 | cusco | I deny to install wine |
| 17:33.21 | mns | halflife08: fsck says "Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt!" |
| 17:33.22 | halflife08 | isfranc: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ |
| 17:33.30 | cusco | I will see if anybody can do it for me then.. :p |
| 17:33.32 | cusco | thanks |
| 17:33.45 | cusco | wols: by the way how did you hear about shockweaver? |
| 17:33.46 | halflife08 | mns: pastebin.com the whole error please |
| 17:33.49 | wols | cusco: you already dabble with flash. there is no further karma you can lose by dealing with windows or wine |
| 17:33.58 | isfranc | ok thanks for this, because too much time for bad xen compile and first amd machine |
| 17:34.17 | wols | cusco: read about it sometime and it stuck to the back of my head as all the other useless trivia |
| 17:34.22 | cusco | wols: no I do not. Our company website does. it happens that this flash files interacts with my department... |
| 17:34.23 | *** join/#debian Da_Wrecka (~da_wrecka@cpc4-live20-2-0-cust366.know.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:34.41 | babilen | isfranc: Have fun. Just out of curiosity: Why do you *need* 64bit userland? |
| 17:35.08 | cusco | wols: ok... it just seems to lack documentation, I can't find anything good on the web to read about shockweaver |
| 17:35.17 | cusco | tho I found a download site in portuguese |
| 17:35.20 | cusco | thanks anyway |
| 17:35.21 | isfranc | babilen: for use good my phenom 64 and run xen |
| 17:35.24 | lindi- | needs it to run fsck on large backup filesystem |
| 17:35.39 | *** join/#debian TRT (~mobile@net-91-81-187-165.cust.dsl.vodafone.it) |
| 17:35.48 | *** join/#debian yoruk (~yoruk@95.232.48.187) |
| 17:35.53 | isfranc | yes it s a bad idea 64 bits, because again bug etc ?? |
| 17:35.57 | babilen | isfranc: Both should be possible with 32bit userland as well. But I will not argue - have fun with the reinstall :) |
| 17:36.10 | *** join/#debian chemosh (~chemosh@5354A903.cable.casema.nl) |
| 17:36.18 | *** join/#debian jj3666 (~jj3666@cpe-66-27-195-186.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 17:36.26 | *** join/#debian fantasticulous (~frog@85.122.81.58) |
| 17:36.29 | *** part/#debian jj3666 (~jj3666@cpe-66-27-195-186.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 17:36.35 | *** join/#debian pflanze (~chris__@69-196-152-229.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 17:36.54 | abrotman | chuckler: you may want to try another full-upgrade |
| 17:36.57 | *** part/#debian TRT (~mobile@net-91-81-187-165.cust.dsl.vodafone.it) |
| 17:37.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 959] by debhelper |
| 17:37.13 | pflanze | I've got an iptables / advanced routing question: is it possible to explicitely force a packet out a particular interface? |
| 17:37.31 | *** join/#debian TRT (~mobile@net-91-81-187-165.cust.dsl.vodafone.it) |
| 17:37.34 | babilen | pflanze: #netfilter ? |
| 17:38.17 | pflanze | ok (nobody responded on #lartc, trying that) |
| 17:38.58 | babilen | pflanze: There is also ##networking |
| 17:39.08 | *** join/#debian IceW (old-times@slave.gulug.com.br) |
| 17:39.15 | *** join/#debian Madda (~chatzilla@host240-18-static.225-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 17:39.16 | *** join/#debian jpinx-eeepc (~johnp@190.232.141.161) |
| 17:39.19 | Madda | hi to all |
| 17:40.01 | *** join/#debian msaizar (~martin@r190-135-178-58.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 17:40.28 | pflanze | thanks babilen |
| 17:40.29 | mns | halflife08: pastebin at http://paste.debian.net/64379/ |
| 17:40.42 | *** join/#debian Sitem (~yuijin@85.103.12.216) |
| 17:40.45 | *** part/#debian Sitem (~yuijin@85.103.12.216) |
| 17:41.13 | Madda | anyone know how to chmod mails using dovecot ? |
| 17:42.01 | *** join/#debian K_Dallas (~Korbain@cpe-24-210-250-27.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 17:42.14 | *** part/#debian JohGro (~johan@212.85.88.174) |
| 17:42.26 | *** join/#debian GeetarJake (~jgreen@216.207.124.226) |
| 17:42.27 | wols | Madda: chmod to what and why? |
| 17:42.33 | *** join/#debian Mike___ (~Mike@85.186.19.155) |
| 17:42.44 | NoReflex | perhaps to mark them as spam at file level? |
| 17:42.48 | *** part/#debian GeetarJake (~jgreen@216.207.124.226) |
| 17:42.55 | Madda | i'm setting up a Postfix mail server with an LDAP backend (AD2003) |
| 17:43.12 | Madda | i'me setting postfix using virtual domain |
| 17:43.29 | Madda | my virtual gid and uid are vmail:vmail |
| 17:43.48 | Madda | so, when a mail arrives it's 600 |
| 17:44.21 | *** join/#debian fdd (~algol@unaffiliated/fdd) |
| 17:44.25 | wols | what do you use to deliver your mail? |
| 17:44.26 | Titan8990 | !enter |
| 17:44.26 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 17:44.49 | *** join/#debian joneal (~we6jbo@cpe-66-75-229-230.san.res.rr.com) |
| 17:45.20 | Madda | the problem in when, i'll try to retiver the mail using dovecot, becuse dovecot user had uid and gid of the active direcotry tree |
| 17:45.42 | wols | Madda: answer my question please |
| 17:45.54 | Madda | wols: postfix as MTA, dovecot as imap server, actually i'm using virtual |
| 17:46.01 | Madda | to send the email to the mailbox |
| 17:46.18 | Madda | and i cannot found any parameters to set a different umask |
| 17:46.23 | wols | answer my question, and don't talk gibberish |
| 17:46.31 | *** join/#debian TMinus36 (~serverz@pdpc/supporter/student/tminus36) |
| 17:46.59 | Madda | lol, i'm using virtual |
| 17:47.18 | wols | virtual is gibberish. you use virtual users. you don't use "virtual" to send mails, do you? |
| 17:47.21 | *** join/#debian R430R (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 17:47.29 | *** join/#debian PyroPhelia (~Pyro@c-98-218-97-45.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 17:48.06 | Madda | it's virtual a postfix's service ? |
| 17:48.39 | Madda | anyway, yes, i'm using virtual users |
| 17:48.40 | wols | please show us the howto you work from |
| 17:48.51 | PyroPhelia | When a user deletes a file when connected to a server via, nfs/afp/smb, is it possible to move that file (and/or filder) to a folder somewhere else on the server that only admins can delete? They need write access but I'm terrified of accidental deletes. and I'm using XFS so recover is a pain in the arse |
| 17:49.00 | Madda | mmm, i'm not working from an howto :) |
| 17:49.22 | Madda | but..wait |
| 17:49.44 | wols | Madda: the question remains: HOW do you deliver mail to postfix |
| 17:50.18 | Madda | ah, mail to postfix... |
| 17:50.25 | Madda | lol, i'm using mutt |
| 17:50.28 | Madda | as root |
| 17:50.29 | wols | sorry. my bad. mail to dovecot |
| 17:50.34 | Madda | rotfl |
| 17:50.41 | Titan8990 | PyroPhelia: I am not sure about how it works with those network protocols but with unix perms you can give it "sticky" and that prevention deletion |
| 17:50.44 | wols | but anyways: http://workaround.org/ispmail/lenny/make-postifx-send-mails-to-dovecot |
| 17:50.46 | *** join/#debian Sm0ke0ut (~Sm0ke0ut@unaffiliated/sm0ke0ut) |
| 17:51.55 | halflife08 | mns: you can attempt to restore the superblock . the superblock is written in multiple locations |
| 17:51.56 | PyroPhelia | Titan8990, I've read about sticky permissions but I thought that was a bsd thing, not linux |
| 17:51.56 | Madda | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:51.56 | Titan8990 | PyroPhelia: its a UNIX thing which applies to linux. |
| 17:51.56 | Madda | Mar 15 18:43:27 proteo postfix/qmgr[5358]: DB117135C522: removed |
| 17:52.07 | *** join/#debian sayanriju (~sayan@unaffiliated/sayanriju) |
| 17:52.10 | PyroPhelia | hmm |
| 17:52.30 | *** join/#debian wraith_ (~Scrooge_M@118.94.136.234) |
| 17:52.39 | PyroPhelia | Titan8990, ok thanks. I'll read up on it |
| 17:52.45 | Madda | proteo:/home/vmail/madda/Maildir/new# ls -la |
| 17:52.53 | Madda | drwx------ 2 vmail vmail 4096 15 mar 18:47 . |
| 17:52.55 | Madda | drwx------ 5 vmail vmail 4096 15 mar 18:43 .. |
| 17:52.57 | Madda | -rw------- 1 vmail vmail 509 15 mar 18:43 1268675007.V801If201aM447818.proteo |
| 17:52.58 | mns | halflife08: any pointers to where I can look for how to restore superblock ? or just google "restore superblock linux" ? |
| 17:52.58 | Madda | -rw------- 1 vmail vmail 503 15 mar 18:47 1268675240.V801If201dM640185.proteo |
| 17:53.02 | babilen | Madda: stop |
| 17:53.02 | mecca | Titan8990: I think you mean immutable, not sticky? Sticky preserves permissions, immutable protects from deletes |
| 17:53.08 | HardDisk_WP | how do I make a Debian system reboot automatically every full hour?? |
| 17:53.09 | babilen | !tell Madda -about paste |
| 17:53.26 | Madda | sry |
| 17:53.38 | lindi- | mns: if your hardware is about to break, the first thing is to copy all the data to a new disk |
| 17:53.38 | *** join/#debian Kedare (~Kedare@nea78-1-82-242-101-51.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:53.57 | lindi- | mns: and only then worry about fixing the filesystem |
| 17:53.57 | babilen | HardDisk_WP: cron? But why would you want to do that? (just curious) |
| 17:54.04 | *** join/#debian ghostman (~forth@HSI-KBW-078-043-072-134.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 17:54.27 | *** join/#debian cloxie (~smo@ks301671.kimsufi.com) |
| 17:55.40 | mns | not sure if the hardware is going to break. seems like a disconnect between what the superblock considers the size of the filesystem and what the device reports. Of course I need to find a 2nd drive that has 500GB of space on it first :) |
| 17:55.57 | *** join/#debian lvillani (~lvillani@fedora/lvillani) |
| 17:56.02 | *** join/#debian sdx24 (~sdx23@unaffiliated/sdx23) |
| 17:56.33 | *** join/#debian ocnam (~ocnam@12.107.7.5) |
| 17:56.33 | wols | mns: checked other superblocks first? if they have the same size entry? |
| 17:56.40 | *** part/#debian isfranc (~fran@thenewlan.fr) |
| 17:57.00 | mns | wols: how do I do that ? |
| 17:57.06 | wols | babilen: he emulates a windows server. his boss mustn't know that he changed the OS on the server |
| 17:57.22 | babilen | wols: hehe |
| 17:57.22 | HardDisk_WP | some bug in the sundance network card module |
| 17:57.24 | HardDisk_WP | makes the device stop.. |
| 17:57.26 | HardDisk_WP | netdev_watchdog timeouts |
| 17:57.28 | HardDisk_WP | babilen, */15 * * * * shutdown -r now |
| 17:57.30 | HardDisk_WP | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.47 | babilen | aye |
| 17:58.26 | wols | mns: dumpe2fs should show them |
| 17:58.33 | babilen | HardDisk_WP: You might want to get new NICs/fix the bug though. I'd go crazy if i have a server that is permanently rebooted |
| 17:58.35 | HardDisk_WP | wols, nah, $customer... the problem is this stupid network card, shoulda have bought a 20⬠instead of a 10⬠one -.- |
| 17:58.41 | lindi- | b |
| 17:58.49 | HardDisk_WP | Yeah, but takes two days for replacement to arrive |
| 17:58.58 | babilen | just saying |
| 17:59.04 | HardDisk_WP | ^^ |
| 17:59.05 | wols | HardDisk_WP: hey! don't put my 10$ NICs down. I <3 realtek :P |
| 17:59.07 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@88-138-189-32.adslgp.cegetel.net) |
| 17:59.23 | HardDisk_WP | The other one indeed IS realtek^^ |
| 17:59.51 | wols | while have have 3-4 that went bad, it was after several years of service each |
| 17:59.59 | wols | a decade even IIRC |
| 18:00.10 | *** join/#debian _gentgeen_ (~kevin@65.105.38.211.ptr.us.xo.net) |
| 18:00.20 | factor | <karlpinc>called local internet company and they said they where pppoe so I will try that in a bit |
| 18:00.28 | *** join/#debian Sashi (~Sashi@S0106002401f32e19.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 18:00.29 | PyroPhelia | Titan8990, according to the wikipedia page onthe sticky bit no linux distrubution uses the sticky bit. "[...] the Linux kernel ignores the sticky bit on files." (2002) only bsd and other flavours of pure unix still support it, and only in a limited fassion |
| 18:00.55 | HardDisk_WP | praxis-rgw:~# date |
| 18:00.55 | HardDisk_WP | Mo 15. Mär 19:00:43 CET 2010 |
| 18:00.59 | mecca | PyroPhelia: Look into immutable, not sticky bit |
| 18:01.00 | HardDisk_WP | fuck, it has not rebooted -.- |
| 18:01.17 | HardDisk_WP | Mar 15 19:00:01 praxis-rgw /USR/SBIN/CRON[3022]: (root) CMD (shutdown -r now) |
| 18:01.19 | HardDisk_WP | in syslog |
| 18:01.25 | HardDisk_WP | but why hasnt it rebooted?!# |
| 18:02.04 | mecca | PyroPhelia: Sticky bit in linux is used for permissions on files created within a 'sticky' directory, not protecting files from deletion |
| 18:02.07 | *** join/#debian jackz (~d@cc305009-a.groni1.gr.home.nl) |
| 18:02.25 | wols | factor: what method do you use to get an IP? |
| 18:02.27 | PyroPhelia | mecca, ah ha. that's what I was looking for. thank you |
| 18:02.33 | wols | cause with pppoe it'S very specific what you have to do |
| 18:03.25 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~project25@86.51.114.108) |
| 18:03.27 | *** join/#debian jham (~lynucs@fail.fail2fail.com) |
| 18:03.31 | PyroPhelia | mecca, wait i'm getting mixed signals here. from what i've read the linux kernel has ignored the sticky bit since 2002. are you saying it's functionality is still there? and if so, what is the current state of it's functionality? |
| 18:03.39 | *** join/#debian Greyhound- (Greyhound@79.114.42.199) |
| 18:03.50 | HardDisk_WP | wols / babilen: you got any idea why the reboot didn't work? |
| 18:04.16 | PyroPhelia | mecca, an no i'm not trying to be an ass, i'm just trying to learn as much about this as possible |
| 18:04.26 | mecca | PyroPhelia: Linux ignores the sticky bit on *files* but it does work on directories |
| 18:04.33 | PyroPhelia | ahh |
| 18:04.33 | *** join/#debian kaeos (~Miranda@84.76.55.235) |
| 18:04.35 | *** join/#debian CharminTheMoose (~Count_fuz@unaffiliated/charminthemoose) |
| 18:04.46 | mecca | PyroPhelia: See /tmp for an example |
| 18:04.49 | lindi- | PyroPhelia: /W #vapaakoodi |
| 18:04.53 | lindi- | whoops, sorry! |
| 18:05.12 | wols | HardDisk_WP: no clue. maybe try to log all output? |
| 18:05.22 | HardDisk_WP | how? of shutdown -r now? |
| 18:05.24 | PyroPhelia | mecca ah ok |
| 18:05.31 | wols | HardDisk_WP: yes |
| 18:05.56 | PyroPhelia | mecca, then how I protect who directory trees? files included? |
| 18:06.08 | *** join/#debian funksmell (~funksmell@nat-jsq-adm.advance.net) |
| 18:06.14 | PyroPhelia | do I use a combination of sticky and chattr, or will chattr protect both from being deleted? |
| 18:06.21 | babilen | HardDisk_WP: Try "/sbin/shutdown -r now" as command |
| 18:06.29 | mecca | PyroPhelia: Forget sticky :) |
| 18:06.29 | PyroPhelia | s/who/whole |
| 18:06.34 | PyroPhelia | rgr |
| 18:06.40 | PyroPhelia | man chattr it is |
| 18:06.41 | PyroPhelia | thank you |
| 18:07.00 | HardDisk_WP | Works. |
| 18:07.04 | mecca | PyroPhelia: Immutable is what you are looking for. sticky is something completely different |
| 18:07.09 | *** join/#debian sdx23 (~sdx23@unaffiliated/sdx23) |
| 18:07.12 | nork | when 'aptitude install' is given two different versions of the same package (both specified with package=version syntax), does it know to choose the newer one, or will it just choose the first one specified? I'm writing an install automation script and nuances like this might come up |
| 18:07.20 | *** join/#debian T_X_ (~quassel@cl-3161.ham-01.de.sixxs.net) |
| 18:07.37 | *** join/#debian sunkan (~sunkan@alva.zappa.cx) |
| 18:07.42 | *** join/#debian Joint (~BSD@adsl-77-147-155.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 18:08.06 | PyroPhelia | mecca, I hate to be a pain but could you link me something to read about the sticky bit? I'm really confused as to what the sticky bit does "now" in linux. I understand what it use to do, but it seems that is very different from it's current application |
| 18:08.33 | HardDisk_WP | babilen, putting /sbin/ in front of the command did the trick. |
| 18:08.42 | HardDisk_WP | apparently cron doesnt import PATH |
| 18:09.23 | mecca | PyroPhelia: "The most common use of the sticky bit today is on directories. When the sticky bit is set, only the item's owner, the directory's owner, or the superuser can rename or delete files. " -- wikipedia |
| 18:09.27 | babilen | HardDisk_WP: yes |
| 18:09.47 | mecca | PyroPhelia: In linux /tmp is sticky for this reason |
| 18:10.11 | HardDisk_WP | afk gn8 |
| 18:10.18 | babilen | night |
| 18:10.56 | *** join/#debian sdx24 (~sdx23@with-eyes.net) |
| 18:11.08 | PyroPhelia | mecca, ok thank you. I'm sure I have more questions i'd love to throw at you but I need to do some reading. thank you for your guidance |
| 18:11.22 | mecca | PyroPhelia: No problem, good luck |
| 18:14.06 | *** join/#debian Blaize (~Blaize@92.8.102.255) |
| 18:14.19 | *** join/#debian HackeMate (~HackeMate@171.Red-88-19-198.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:14.34 | *** join/#debian KavanS (~KavanS@static-173-50-141-22.ptldor.fios.verizon.net) |
| 18:15.26 | PyroPhelia | oh I do have one other question. this may be political so if it gets nasty please ignore it. Why do stock debian builds not include sudo setups? |
| 18:16.09 | PyroPhelia | I know it's not hard to setup, I was just wondering if there was a security issue with sudo, and/or if it was a licensing thing. |
| 18:16.46 | *** join/#debian KRF (~krf@amarok/developer/krf) |
| 18:16.46 | *** join/#debian shdb (~shdb@80-218-240-206.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 18:16.53 | PyroPhelia | I just get nervosu when I have to log in as root to do things like this. |
| 18:16.54 | DogBoy | PyroPhelia, what's the matter with su |
| 18:17.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 965] by debhelper |
| 18:17.14 | NoReflex | PyroPhelia: if you don't setup a password for the root user when installing debian it will actually setup sudo similar to ubuntu |
| 18:17.16 | DogBoy | either way you're acting as root |
| 18:18.38 | Madda | wols..the delivery using dovecot seems to work, but it didn't resolv my problem :) |
| 18:20.15 | *** join/#debian BornToBePuli (~voivod@5403C6DF.catv.pool.telekom.hu) |
| 18:21.12 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 18:23.19 | *** join/#debian gp2k (~gmporter@kontiki.sysnet.ucsd.edu) |
| 18:23.36 | *** join/#debian hideo (~irc@c-98-252-177-64.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 18:23.45 | *** join/#debian steve_irwin (~f@adsl-233-222-38.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 18:23.49 | steve_irwin | hi |
| 18:23.55 | steve_irwin | i just wrote a letter to a soldier |
| 18:24.02 | Shadur | That's nice? |
| 18:24.14 | wols | steve_irwin: do you have a debian related question? |
| 18:24.14 | steve_irwin | wanna read it |
| 18:24.19 | steve_irwin | Hi soldiers I'm Jeff and I'm 8 years old and I want to say thank you for making it so I can go to school and be free. I don't know how much I would cost if I weren't free but I think it would be less than the PS3 I got for Christmas from Santa. It's so awesome I play Call of Duty and pretend I'm you guys blowing up all of the bad guys who speak funny languages. When I grow up, I wanna be a soldier and fire guns and drive tanks just like yo |
| 18:24.31 | Shadur | !ops steve_irwin is being a troll. |
| 18:24.31 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: shadur complains about: steve_irwin is being a troll. |
| 18:24.42 | *** mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ |
| 18:24.44 | *** mode/#debian [+o LoRez] by ChanServ |
| 18:24.44 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@74.233.222.38] by themill |
| 18:24.44 | *** mode/#debian [+b %*!*@adsl-233-222-38.mia.bellsouth.net] by LoRez |
| 18:24.44 | *** mode/#debian [-o LoRez] by LoRez |
| 18:24.46 | *** kick/#debian [steve_irwin!~stuart@unaffiliated/themill] by themill (You should know better) |
| 18:24.49 | *** mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill |
| 18:25.20 | LoRez | nice.. scripts need some upgrades. |
| 18:25.26 | petemc | stereo ops |
| 18:26.09 | themill | LoRez: banned both by IP and hostmask ftw :) |
| 18:26.18 | LoRez | themill: not really. |
| 18:26.28 | *** mode/#debian [+o LoRez] by ChanServ |
| 18:26.39 | *** mode/#debian [-b %*!*@adsl-233-222-38.mia.bellsouth.net] by LoRez |
| 18:26.41 | *** mode/#debian [-o LoRez] by LoRez |
| 18:26.56 | *** join/#debian antgel (~topdog@bzq-79-180-48-213.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 18:26.57 | Shadur | thinks banning by IP automatically bans the hostmask as well. |
| 18:27.00 | *** join/#debian buntfalke (~nobody@unaffiliated/buntfalke) |
| 18:27.16 | themill | Shadur: it does. |
| 18:28.18 | *** join/#debian SingAlong (~chatzilla@117.192.199.237) |
| 18:29.03 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@c-76-121-43-48.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 18:29.09 | SingAlong | i'm trying to install ruby 1.9.1 via apt-get on lenny. but it says pkg not found. by default it installs 1.8. I tried "apt-get install ruby=1.9.1" |
| 18:29.14 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 18:29.42 | jelly-home | SingAlong: there is no 1.9.1 package for lenny. |
| 18:29.50 | jelly-home | ,versions ruby |
| 18:29.52 | judd | ruby -- etch: 1.8.2-1; lenny: 4.2; sid: 4.2; squeeze: 4.2 |
| 18:30.00 | jelly-home | eh, not very useful |
| 18:30.05 | jelly-home | ,versions ruby1.9 |
| 18:30.07 | judd | ruby1.9 -- etch: 1.9.0+20060609-1etch4; etch-security: 1.9.0+20060609-1etch5; lenny: 1.9.0.2-9lenny1; lenny-security: 1.9.0.2-9lenny1; sid: 1.9.0.5-1; squeeze: 1.9.0.5-1 |
| 18:30.17 | SingAlong | judd: hod do i install it? |
| 18:30.24 | SingAlong | judd. 1.9 is enough |
| 18:30.35 | jelly-home | SingAlong: judd is a bot. install "ruby1.9" |
| 18:30.43 | SingAlong | jelly-home: oh haha :D |
| 18:31.17 | *** join/#debian Yu\2 (~Yu@2001:638:504:f1f6:213:77ff:feb6:afb0) |
| 18:31.57 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 18:32.33 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@h172n5c1o269.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 18:33.56 | *** join/#debian lelu (~simon@81.168.112.196) |
| 18:35.17 | *** join/#debian Hans_Henrik (~chatzilla@ti0131a340-0813.bb.online.no) |
| 18:35.18 | jelly-home | ,versions ruby1.9.1 |
| 18:35.19 | judd | ruby1.9.1 -- sid: 1.9.1.378-1; squeeze: 1.9.1.378-1 |
| 18:37.54 | *** join/#debian Robbie (~robbie@78-22-12-102.access.telenet.be) |
| 18:38.54 | SingAlong | jelly-home: Now my ruby command is ruby1.9 instead of just ruby. how do i fix that? |
| 18:40.09 | jelly-home | SingAlong: I don't think it's a good idea. Other packages rely on /usr/bin/ruby pointing to 1.8 in lenny |
| 18:40.32 | *** join/#debian JayTaph (~dbdf@cp648741-a.roose1.nb.home.nl) |
| 18:40.36 | *** join/#debian [edge] (~illusion@95.129.166.165) |
| 18:40.40 | jelly-home | SingAlong: probably better to fix your scripts to use /usr/bin/ruby2.9 explicitely |
| 18:40.43 | *** join/#debian DarkCow (~DarkCow@dyn1074-189.hor.ic.ac.uk) |
| 18:40.49 | jelly-home | er, /usr/bin/ruby1.9 |
| 18:40.55 | SingAlong | jelly-home: oh so wont having ruby1.9 as a command affect my other stuff like rails? |
| 18:41.20 | jelly-home | SingAlong: it shouldn't |
| 18:41.23 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@p5DCF0773.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:42.01 | Bohemian | anybody know why i'm getting this error? i'm trying to set up a mysql db on my virtual machine of lenny for localhost: http://pastebin.com/SE5fYjWs |
| 18:42.09 | SingAlong | jelly-home: oh. so you mean my ruby command is already aliased to ruby1.9? i never installed ruby. i only installed ruby1.9 |
| 18:42.14 | jelly-home | SingAlong: that is, unless you want that stuff to use 1.9 instead. I don't know the recommended way to do that. |
| 18:42.32 | jelly-home | SingAlong: oh, then you don't have /usr/bin/ruby at all |
| 18:42.54 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 18:44.38 | *** join/#debian ma3x__ (~ma3x@unaffiliated/ma3x) |
| 18:45.31 | *** join/#debian cheako (~cheako@174-20-206-245.mpls.qwest.net) |
| 18:46.07 | *** join/#debian R430R (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 18:46.08 | cheako | Hello, does any one know how to effect stdin for "daemon - turns other processes into daemons"? |
| 18:46.12 | *** join/#debian Selveste1____ (~Selveste1@wnn72114.wireless.dtu.dk) |
| 18:46.44 | SingAlong | jelly-home: its fine anyway. the default ruby version is 1.8.7 which is the minimum for rails3 |
| 18:46.45 | cheako | Do you truly have to set -f and redirect it prior to invocation? |
| 18:47.16 | SingAlong | jelly-home: thanks for the help mate! |
| 18:47.20 | dondelelcaro | cheako: daemons generally don't have stdin/stdout open |
| 18:47.40 | dondelelcaro | cheako: but if you just want something to detach from the terminal, wrap it in a shell which detaches |
| 18:48.18 | *** join/#debian qemqemqem_ (~quassel@cpe-74-74-155-246.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 18:48.18 | *** part/#debian SingAlong (~chatzilla@117.192.199.237) |
| 18:48.23 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 18:48.26 | cheako | dondelelcaro: I want all the functionality of this specific command like tool. Except for this one feature ;) |
| 18:48.30 | *** join/#debian jeff_hann (~arares@89.47.83.116) |
| 18:48.36 | *** join/#debian det (~chris@ip24-253-23-87.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 18:49.00 | *** join/#debian Jippi_mac (~jippignu@x1-6-00-24-b2-9f-d4-24.k112.webspeed.dk) |
| 18:49.24 | cheako | s/like/line/ |
| 18:49.26 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~project25@86.51.114.108) |
| 18:50.18 | *** join/#debian katyl (~katyl@adsl-074-170-246-249.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net) |
| 18:50.20 | *** join/#debian TMinus36 (~serverz@pdpc/supporter/student/tminus36) |
| 18:51.49 | *** join/#debian pihhan (~pihhan@pihhan.cipis.net) |
| 18:51.53 | *** join/#debian Laberkopf (~laberkopf@p4FC39EA9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:52.15 | *** join/#debian isfranc (~fran@thenewlan.fr) |
| 18:52.31 | *** join/#debian zrin (~chatzilla@chello062178201205.6.15.tuwien.teleweb.at) |
| 18:53.28 | *** join/#debian goksin (~goksin@88.229.123.252) |
| 18:53.44 | *** join/#debian n-iCe (nice@unaffiliated/nice/x-729832) |
| 18:53.51 | n-iCe | how to know which wireless driver version am i using |
| 18:54.26 | *** join/#debian mon8 (~yoda@cpc1-lanc5-0-0-cust959.brig.cable.ntl.com) |
| 18:54.36 | *** join/#debian gusto (~gusto@adsl-dyn-137.95-102-233.t-com.sk) |
| 18:54.39 | *** join/#debian uofm49426 (~daniel@24-180-120-255.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) |
| 18:55.57 | *** join/#debian Jolia (~Jolia@91.91.221.141) |
| 18:56.16 | zrin | under what circumstances would standard lenny kernel detect the IDE master HDD connected to the first IDE bus as "hde" or not detect it at all? IDE is enabled in BIOS, HDD is found during start, installer shows it as "hde", when the kernel boots from it, it is not found (or the device is not created) at all |
| 18:56.22 | hideo | n-iCe: lsmod and lspci ? |
| 18:56.52 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~SkG@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) |
| 18:57.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 976] by debhelper |
| 18:57.45 | Psi-Jack | Hmmm |
| 18:58.04 | Psi-Jack | Is there a way to boot up the debian netinst in kvm in non-graphics mode of any kind that would allow it to work over ssh? |
| 18:58.20 | n-iCe | no, hideo driver version, not model |
| 18:58.38 | hideo | modinfo |
| 18:58.57 | themill | dpkg: tell n-iCe about which ethernet module |
| 18:59.05 | uofm49426 | using debian 5.0.4 having problem with any video format and fglrx 9.3 |
| 18:59.21 | n-iCe | got it thanks |
| 18:59.22 | wols | Psi-Jack: /msg dpkg ssh install |
| 18:59.50 | Psi-Jack | wols: I'm guessing you didn't even read what I asked. |
| 19:00.26 | zrin | I have a machine with 7 SATA disks, I'm trying to make it boot even if an extra HDD is added (e.g. to the ESATA interface) or USB stick connected, it's been sheer horror ... now I'm trying to set up IDE HDD just to boot (I would use a CF card), but even that fails ... help! |
| 19:00.29 | n-iCe | http://sadasdasd.pastebin.com/4arynqDZ |
| 19:00.36 | wols | Psi-Jack: good luck solving your problem. hand |
| 19:00.37 | themill | uofm49426: I still think you want #dreamlinux on irc.freenode.net. |
| 19:00.42 | *** join/#debian EagleWatch (~eaglewatc@Marasti-IIB2.east.utcluj.ro) |
| 19:00.46 | Psi-Jack | I'm trying to use kvm to boot up the debian-504-netinst.iso via a ssh session, so -curses and no SDL, yet the boot manager AND bootup initializes framebuffer. |
| 19:00.59 | uofm49426 | the fglrx makes my videos a solid lime green |
| 19:01.14 | *** join/#debian cga (~cga@82.84.135.112) |
| 19:01.24 | halflife08 | zrin: : what is that fails? pastebin error messages please |
| 19:01.26 | *** join/#debian BerMeJo (~bermejo@151.Red-83-61-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:01.28 | BerMeJo | hi all |
| 19:01.46 | uofm49426 | theres no one home |
| 19:01.55 | wols | !tell uofm49426 about they don't know |
| 19:02.06 | zrin | halflife08: root fs not found, on the (initramfs) prompt ls /dev/hd* reveals no hd* devices |
| 19:02.39 | wols | zrin: what chipset? |
| 19:03.02 | BerMeJo | i'm having problems with iceweasel 3.5.8, flashplugin-nonfree, debian squeeze and megavideo.com flash, when page load i try to push play button, but it now work .... Anybody know about this? |
| 19:03.17 | zrin | wols: Gigabyte 790XTA-UD4 mainboard - 790XT |
| 19:03.31 | Psi-Jack | wols: So, I can't even /see/ the console after it boots up. |
| 19:03.36 | BerMeJo | i'm having problems with iceweasel 3.5.8, flashplugin-nonfree, debian squeeze and megavideo.com flash, when page load i try to push play button, but it don't work .... Anybody know about this? (edited) |
| 19:03.42 | uofm49426 | it uses debian repo only difference from lenny is it uses awn Manager |
| 19:03.46 | Psi-Jack | So, it won't have network access TO it. |
| 19:03.55 | wols | zrin: it's hde if there are 4 other IDE/SATA controllers before it. e.g. does the mobo have 4 SATA connectors? |
| 19:04.01 | zrin | halflife08, wols: installer shows the IDE HDD as hde |
| 19:04.21 | wols | uofm49426: it's not debian |
| 19:04.31 | uofm49426 | its is |
| 19:04.33 | zrin | wols: it has 8 SATA and 2 ESATA connectors |
| 19:04.47 | zrin | wols: it has 3 SATA controllers |
| 19:04.51 | uofm49426 | it is lenny |
| 19:05.04 | uofm49426 | 5.0.4 |
| 19:05.06 | wols | uofm49426: it is called dreamlinux. ergo: not debian. you won't get support here |
| 19:05.27 | wols | zrin: can you look at the kernel log? dmesg perhaps? |
| 19:05.42 | *** join/#debian Tigger__ (Tigger@cpc2-fare5-0-0-cust6.cos2.cable.ntl.com) |
| 19:05.58 | zrin | wols: partially, with shift+pgup ... I can boot installer and check the log there |
| 19:05.59 | wols | uofm49426: and on which IDE chip is the hdd connected? the ati one? |
| 19:06.21 | *** join/#debian davyg (~davyg@dau94-9-88-178-191-172.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:06.24 | Psi-Jack | wols: Curiousity has me. Do you even know what kvm is? ;) |
| 19:06.46 | wols | Psi-Jack: go away. and yes I know both meanings of kvm |
| 19:06.51 | themill | uofm49426: you're using packages from outside of debian with a package manager from outside of debian with a video driver that is not in debian. Now please go and ask the people that are giving you these packages. We really can't help you. |
| 19:06.52 | zrin | wols: is the new grub any better in handling shuffled HDD list, e.g. when a drive is added |
| 19:06.59 | uofm49426 | its ahcl |
| 19:07.00 | Psi-Jack | Well, you're just rude. Oh well. |
| 19:07.06 | uofm49426 | sata |
| 19:07.18 | Psi-Jack | Anyway. |
| 19:07.30 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~SkG@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) |
| 19:07.38 | wols | zrin: what your kernel assigns for devicenames doesn't concern grub and vice versa. grub works with bios assigned drive numbers (0x80) only |
| 19:07.39 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@c-76-121-43-48.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 19:07.52 | uofm49426 | the video is ati xpress 1200 |
| 19:08.07 | zrin | wols: I see, and grub does find the drive and boots the kernel |
| 19:08.10 | wols | Psi-Jack: you were the condescending one, not me. it's rare, but it happens |
| 19:08.11 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@24.180.120.255] by ChanServ |
| 19:08.16 | *** join/#debian Coolmax (~mateusz@ip-94-42-52-31.multimo.pl) |
| 19:08.18 | *** join/#debian Carnophage (~carno@dynamic-78-8-245-212.ssp.dialog.net.pl) |
| 19:08.22 | zrin | wols: ... sometimes |
| 19:08.25 | themill | uofm49426: please ask the dreamlinux people... |
| 19:08.37 | wols | zrin: when it's only doing it sometimes, you have a hardware problem |
| 19:08.51 | Psi-Jack | wols: BUt you see, the URL you told me to get, is useless. Because ssh isn't even running at the initial phase of the bootup. |
| 19:08.54 | wols | grub either works always or never |
| 19:08.54 | themill | Psi-Jack: I've not had that trouble with the lenny installer (but I have had it with the squeeze alpha and couldn't solve it) |
| 19:08.58 | zrin | wols: I mean if the hdd order in bios wasn't changed |
| 19:09.20 | zrin | wols: always until a hdd is added, then never :) |
| 19:09.26 | n-iCe | Hi, I'm using iwlwifi-3945-1.ucode, but I found a recently wireless iwl3945 driver, called, iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode how do I remove the first one and install the iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode |
| 19:09.31 | zrin | :( |
| 19:09.33 | Psi-Jack | themill: The problem's not the installer, but I'm trying to kvm install Debian via a ssh instance. Which means no SDL< which means no framebuffer |
| 19:09.45 | wols | NIOS order has notjhing to do with device assignment. first driver gets sda and so on |
| 19:10.17 | zrin | wols: what shall I look for in dmesg? |
| 19:10.27 | Psi-Jack | So, with kvm running in -curses mode, once it flips on the framebuffer, all you see is 640x480 in the center of the ssh session. |
| 19:10.34 | Psi-Jack | Nothing more, can't do anything. |
| 19:10.39 | wols | zrin: anything related to hdd controllers and hdds |
| 19:10.41 | *** join/#debian mozzz (~moz@g230188206.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 19:10.41 | Psi-Jack | Can't see anything. |
| 19:10.51 | themill | Psi-Jack: I've successfully installed lenny into a kvm/qemu instance using -curses mode within screen over an ssh session several times. Without it going anywhere near the framebuffer. |
| 19:11.32 | Psi-Jack | themill: Any particular CD image you'd use? Cause the netinst one loads the framebuffer right at bootup. |
| 19:11.52 | *** join/#debian orfix (~weechat@adsl196-167-73-206-196.adsl196-3.iam.net.ma) |
| 19:11.52 | n-iCe | Hi, I'm using iwlwifi-3945-1.ucode, but I found a recently wireless iwl3945 driver, called, iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode how do I remove the first one and install the iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode |
| 19:11.54 | themill | Psi-Jack: I just used the netinst one.... sorry :( |
| 19:12.04 | Psi-Jack | Hmmm |
| 19:12.06 | wols | n-iCe: why do you need this new firmware? |
| 19:12.12 | *** join/#debian Benhuard (~benhuard@fermi.crm.umontreal.ca) |
| 19:12.14 | Psi-Jack | Strange. |
| 19:12.17 | n-iCe | wols: as upgrade/update |
| 19:12.26 | wols | n-iCe: that is no answer. why do you need it? |
| 19:12.33 | n-iCe | wols: to make my wireless work better |
| 19:12.45 | zrin | wols: looking for ide: "ide: assuming 33 MHz ..." |
| 19:12.46 | wols | !tell n-iCe about sns |
| 19:13.04 | Psi-Jack | Aha! |
| 19:13.13 | wols | zrin: that looks like there is no driver for your ide chip and therefore the default IDE/ST506 driver is used |
| 19:13.17 | n-iCe | uh? |
| 19:13.20 | Psi-Jack | I got the boot: prompt at least for the cd image. |
| 19:13.26 | zrin | wols: looking for IDE: "Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver" |
| 19:13.31 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@c-76-121-43-48.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 19:13.51 | wols | yep. so what does lspci say? (notice how you right at the beginning dismissed what hideo asked)?= |
| 19:14.07 | zrin | wols: looking for ATA: ... just SATA and scsi "direct access ... ATA" stuff |
| 19:14.21 | BerMeJo | i'm having problems with iceweasel 3.5.8, flashplugin-nonfree, debian squeeze and megavideo.com flash, when page load i try to click play button, and nothing happend .... Anybody know about this? |
| 19:14.23 | zrin | wols: so I should try a newer kernel? |
| 19:14.24 | wols | zrin: pastebin the lspci -nn output. HAND |
| 19:14.30 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@88-138-189-32.adslgp.cegetel.net) |
| 19:14.49 | *** join/#debian R430R (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 19:14.52 | wols | BerMeJo: repeating the same every few minutes won't get you an answer |
| 19:15.04 | wols | at most you will get on more /ignore lists |
| 19:15.30 | zrin | wols I have to boot in order to lspci :) ... I'll try |
| 19:15.40 | *** join/#debian luminoso (~lumos@av-217-129-131-108.netvisao.pt) |
| 19:15.46 | wols | lspci can be done in the installer. no hdd necessary for that |
| 19:15.54 | themill | Psi-Jack: yay. (I've just looked up my notes from that install and literally all I did was: qemu -k en-gb -hda disk.img -hdb disk2.img -net nic -net tap,ifname=tap0,script=no -boot d -cdrom debian-504-i386-netinst.iso) |
| 19:16.05 | *** join/#debian DarkCow (~DarkCow@dyn1074-189.hor.ic.ac.uk) |
| 19:17.17 | *** join/#debian omid8bimo (~Omid@unaffiliated/omid8bimo) |
| 19:17.24 | Psi-Jack | themill: I see no -curses option on that. |
| 19:17.50 | themill | Psi-Jack: bleh... copied the wrong line. |
| 19:17.58 | *** join/#debian brodul (~brodul@BSN-143-118-96.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) |
| 19:18.07 | omid8bimo | hey guys, i have a problem. i used apt-get to update my system packages. several of them were updated. now when i start X , mouse and keyboard dont work at all |
| 19:18.14 | omid8bimo | any idea? |
| 19:18.48 | omid8bimo | i've checked xorg.conf and looks fine! also xserver-xorg-input-kbd/mouse is installed |
| 19:18.49 | *** join/#debian lordlamer (~fhaberman@g224028196.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 19:18.59 | user_ | lordlamer, I love your nick |
| 19:19.07 | *** join/#debian Theoden (~quassel@c-98-234-161-226.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 19:19.11 | wols | omid8bimo: which debian version? |
| 19:19.19 | omid8bimo | wols: sid |
| 19:19.40 | wols | congrats. you got to keep the pieces |
| 19:19.45 | Psi-Jack | themill: Otherwise, though.. That's pretty much the same as mine. Only difference is I'm using kvm and not qemu. |
| 19:19.52 | jhutchins_lt | omid8bimo: What part of "Sid will break your toys" did you not understand? |
| 19:20.05 | omid8bimo | wols: i play around sid a lot and always it works fine. just this time after update, trouble happened |
| 19:20.16 | user_ | jhutchins_lt: been running 'unstable' for around 8 years now, all good ;) |
| 19:20.23 | user_ | and I love to dist upgrade pretty often heh |
| 19:20.38 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@88-138-189-32.adslgp.cegetel.net) |
| 19:20.47 | jhutchins_lt | user_: That doesn't mean it doesn't break, just that it hasn't gotten around to you yet. |
| 19:20.48 | *** join/#debian dwar (~dwar@c83-248-84-154.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 19:20.59 | user_ | it does break, but I manage to fix it every time |
| 19:20.59 | omid8bimo | jhutchins_lt: i like unstable edition. it fun! but something pain in the a** |
| 19:20.59 | themill | Psi-Jack: yeah... that particular old PoS box doesn't support kvm. Anyway, if you've got to a boot prompt, one of the directfb=none or similar options should work. I can't recall the exact option but onw of the F{4,5,6} help screens lists it. |
| 19:21.19 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@SJC-Office-DHCP-135.mail-abuse.org) |
| 19:21.30 | Psi-Jack | themill: Therein is the other problem. I cannot SEE the boot screen at all, period. It's a graphical mode grub. |
| 19:21.33 | user_ | of course it sometimes is a pain, but having fresh and up to date (mostly) packages outweighs the problems |
| 19:21.38 | Psi-Jack | or whatever bootloader the installer uses. ;) |
| 19:21.48 | themill | Psi-Jack: oh, I thought you said you got to a boot: prompt earlier. |
| 19:22.02 | Psi-Jack | themill: Yeah, literally blank screen with boot: |
| 19:22.11 | omid8bimo | so any solution that why mouse and keyboard dont work when i start x? |
| 19:22.22 | themill | Psi-Jack: that's enough... try function keys now for the options you're allowed to use. |
| 19:22.28 | wols | omid8bimo: do you know what the BTS is? |
| 19:22.28 | *** join/#debian acemi (~acemi@unaffiliated/acemi) |
| 19:22.50 | Psi-Jack | Heh, F1 sends... 11~ |
| 19:22.54 | *** join/#debian krion (~seb@unaffiliated/krion) |
| 19:22.57 | omid8bimo | wols: amm, no i guess |
| 19:23.09 | user_ | omid8bimo: what's your mouse/kbd issue? |
| 19:23.10 | jelly-home | omid8bimo: read the topic on #debian-x (irc.debian.org), it has links relevant to input device changes |
| 19:23.51 | omid8bimo | jelly-home: oh u mean bug tracking system |
| 19:23.54 | omid8bimo | yeah i know that |
| 19:24.05 | jelly-home | no, that's what wols said |
| 19:24.21 | wols | where would I report a bug about a infinite 302 redirect on a cdimage.debian.org mirror? |
| 19:24.25 | themill | Psi-Jack: "install fb=false" ? |
| 19:24.44 | omid8bimo | jelly-home: oops! sorry. let me c that channel |
| 19:24.47 | Psi-Jack | themill: Bingo! |
| 19:24.54 | Psi-Jack | That got me text mode only. ;) |
| 19:24.56 | themill | Psi-Jack: after that, I'm out of ideas.... see if the installer documentation has anything to say about that. |
| 19:25.12 | themill | Psi-Jack: yay! I guess that means I get to go and cook dinner now :) |
| 19:25.16 | Psi-Jack | hehehe |
| 19:25.20 | Psi-Jack | themill: Thank you! |
| 19:25.22 | themill | np |
| 19:25.35 | themill | I just wish that worked with the squeeze installed... not quite sure why it doesn't. |
| 19:25.36 | Psi-Jack | I was lucky I got the boot prompt by hitting CTRL+C. heh |
| 19:25.49 | *** join/#debian ctp (~ctp@2002:bc60:e0bc:0:226:8ff:fedc:a317) |
| 19:26.03 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~project25@86.51.114.108) |
| 19:26.28 | *** join/#debian gigo (~gigo@unaffiliated/gigo) |
| 19:26.55 | *** join/#debian SYN4PS3 (~chatzilla@188.158.99.169) |
| 19:26.57 | gigo | Any simple HTTP proxy server available in Debian? I need a simple one that I can configure quickly and it should support HTTP authentication |
| 19:27.02 | SYN4PS3 | Debian ; for when you have better things to do than fix your system |
| 19:27.05 | *** join/#debian Zbyshek (~neo@silentic.zbyshek.net) |
| 19:27.13 | *** join/#debian slb_ (~nada@ool-4354b092.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 19:27.14 | *** join/#debian Third3ye (~Third3ye@c06304BC1.dhcp.bluecom.no) |
| 19:27.45 | Psi-Jack | Well, dang... kvm is blazingly faster than I imagined. |
| 19:27.55 | *** join/#debian cga (~cga@82.84.135.112) |
| 19:28.05 | wols | gigo: privoxy perhaps? |
| 19:28.22 | *** join/#debian Malmis (malmis@cl-301.sto-01.se.sixxs.net) |
| 19:28.47 | user_ | gigo: tinyproxy |
| 19:28.50 | *** part/#debian slb_ (~nada@ool-4354b092.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 19:28.57 | user_ | tinyproxy - A lightweight, non-caching, optionally anonymizing http proxy |
| 19:29.02 | user_ | very simple to configure |
| 19:29.13 | gigo | ok, does it support HTTP auth? |
| 19:29.13 | *** join/#debian TMinus36 (~serverz@pdpc/supporter/student/tminus36) |
| 19:29.18 | user_ | yes. |
| 19:29.23 | gigo | i mean, proxy authentication? cool. thanks. |
| 19:29.25 | *** join/#debian hercynium (~hercynium@p3m/member/hercynium) |
| 19:30.01 | *** join/#debian vasilis (~vasilis@ppp-94-67-178-81.home.otenet.gr) |
| 19:33.05 | *** join/#debian LinuxMercedes (~LinuxMerc@r01nmjxv3.device.mst.edu) |
| 19:35.44 | Psi-Jack | Well, fun fun! Got all the way done installing Debian inside the kvm session, and it won't boot. FATAL: No bootable device. |
| 19:35.48 | *** join/#debian jzacsh (~jzacsh@ool-44c055b8.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 19:36.27 | *** join/#debian Robbie (~robbie@78-22-12-102.access.telenet.be) |
| 19:36.27 | Psi-Jack | Oh nebvermind, there it goes. :D |
| 19:36.57 | *** join/#debian Bohemian (~Bohemian@32.138.103.57) |
| 19:37.10 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@c-76-121-43-48.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 19:38.06 | *** join/#debian kermit (~zip55413@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) |
| 19:38.38 | *** part/#debian omid8bimo (~Omid@unaffiliated/omid8bimo) |
| 19:41.04 | *** join/#debian shdb (~shdb@217-162-231-62.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 19:41.16 | *** join/#debian jkdsoft (~JKD@27.85-87-85.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) |
| 19:41.23 | *** join/#debian kunwon1 (~kunwon1@unaffiliated/kunwon1) |
| 19:41.37 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 19:41.50 | *** join/#debian jzacsh (~jzacsh@ool-44c055b8.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 19:42.17 | *** join/#debian X4Fly (~X4Fly@g226155186.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 19:42.58 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~project25@86.51.114.108) |
| 19:43.49 | factor | can someone test an ip out for me , want to see if people on the outside can get acess to port 80 to my router so I can switch it to apache |
| 19:43.58 | factor | will be a linksys right now |
| 19:44.27 | Psi-Jack | Bleh, linkcrap. |
| 19:44.30 | *** join/#debian Alam_Squeeze (quasselcor@mono.lawarias.srb2.org) |
| 19:44.34 | factor | http://70.177.95.241 |
| 19:44.50 | factor | does that bring up the link sys pop up for auth |
| 19:45.38 | *** join/#debian yoshx_ (~yoshx@88-138-189-32.adslgp.cegetel.net) |
| 19:46.07 | *** join/#debian Pikratos (~casosac@190.232.29.125) |
| 19:46.29 | *** join/#debian DipSwitch (~none@koppel-125.sshunet.nl) |
| 19:46.29 | wols | seems to time out |
| 19:46.37 | *** join/#debian subqq (~subqq@119.82.254.151) |
| 19:46.38 | *** join/#debian jpinx-eeepc (~johnp@190.232.141.161) |
| 19:46.52 | *** join/#debian Pikratos (~casosac@190.232.29.125) |
| 19:47.19 | *** join/#debian darkk^ (~darkk@darkk.net.ru) |
| 19:47.28 | *** join/#debian jzacsh (~jzacsh@ool-44c055b8.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 19:47.47 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~SkG@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) |
| 19:49.38 | *** join/#debian factor (~factor@ip70-177-95-241.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 19:49.51 | factor | wols thanks needed that test |
| 19:49.52 | *** join/#debian halflife08 (~halflife@208.78.143.30) |
| 19:50.11 | X4Fly | hi@all |
| 19:50.49 | Bohemian | does apache need to be compiled with mysql or php support? |
| 19:51.00 | wols | !tell Bohemian about lamp |
| 19:51.02 | wols | no it does not |
| 19:51.50 | *** join/#debian lordlamer (~fhaberman@g224028196.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 19:52.11 | *** join/#debian gh0st (~ghost@78.90.113.108) |
| 19:52.13 | gh0st | dpkg-deb: control directory has bad permissions 2755 (must be >=0755 and <=0775) |
| 19:52.31 | Bohemian | wols: hm |
| 19:52.37 | *** join/#debian jzacsh (~jzacsh@ool-44c055b8.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 19:52.39 | Bohemian | well, i set up debian as a mail/email server |
| 19:52.48 | Bohemian | and when i'm in drupal in the database configuration it states: |
| 19:53.00 | *** join/#debian shdb (~shdb@217-162-231-62.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 19:53.06 | Bohemian | "your web server does not appear to support any common databases types. check with your hosting provider to see if they offer any databases that drupal supports" |
| 19:53.08 | Bohemian | i set up mysql |
| 19:53.16 | Bohemian | php5 was already enabled |
| 19:53.41 | wols | Bohemian: do you have all packages mentioned in that factoid installed? |
| 19:53.47 | *** join/#debian xente (~xente@72-254-127-249.hq.ibahn.com) |
| 19:53.53 | xente | anyone here use jradius? |
| 19:53.57 | Bohemian | wols: yes |
| 19:53.59 | wols | !tell xente about anyone |
| 19:54.05 | *** join/#debian SchleimKeim (~skull17@88.84.7.169) |
| 19:54.05 | wols | Bohemian: dpkg -l mysql-php5 |
| 19:54.21 | wols | or rather, dpkg -l php5-mysql |
| 19:54.22 | Bohemian | weird, says no packages found |
| 19:54.35 | xente | I ask if anyone does because it's not entirely relevant to debian |
| 19:54.55 | gh0st | dpkg-deb: control directory has bad permissions 2755 (must be >=0755 and <=0775) |
| 19:54.58 | gh0st | what is that |
| 19:55.02 | jelly-home | xente: eh, wrong channel, then? |
| 19:55.03 | Psi-Jack | Bohemian: That's because you didn't install it. |
| 19:55.08 | wols | !tell gh0st about errors |
| 19:55.11 | *** join/#debian linuxwizard (~linuxwiza@c-98-193-113-147.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 19:55.24 | *** join/#debian tholmith (~tholmith@78.96.252.65) |
| 19:55.40 | xente | but, I am using debian so it would make sense to ask if there are debian users out there that use jradius also before I flood the channel with nonsense |
| 19:55.44 | *** join/#debian Ruyan (~ruan@ip-89-103-97-147.karneval.cz) |
| 19:55.44 | Bohemian | here's the error when i typed in the second line, wols : pastebin.com/UPsum9wT |
| 19:55.48 | jelly-home | gh0st: you are trying to build a package in a setgid-ed directory |
| 19:55.51 | wols | xente: you already do |
| 19:55.57 | gh0st | i give error after making the headers of make-kpkg kernel_headers i have for first time this error msg? |
| 19:56.09 | gh0st | that error with permissions |
| 19:56.26 | *** join/#debian factor (~factor@ip70-177-95-241.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 19:56.29 | wols | Bohemian: then I suggest you ask the drupal folks, sinec apache never needs mysql support for anything. php5 is not apache... |
| 19:56.29 | xente | so, I have questions about jradius, is there someone who can help? |
| 19:56.32 | *** join/#debian magnet_ (~magnet@silmaril.mithrandir.net) |
| 19:57.23 | wols | xente: learn to ask ýour real questions |
| 19:57.30 | wols | not bullshit meta questions |
| 19:57.32 | xente | wols: I have learned to do so |
| 19:57.44 | xente | meta questions? come on |
| 19:57.56 | *** join/#debian _xbow (~xbow@84.42.33.46) |
| 19:58.19 | Bohemian | wols: thanks |
| 19:58.23 | Psi-Jack | xente: You have YET to ask a retorical question. |
| 19:58.25 | gh0st | jelly-home: yes |
| 19:58.35 | Psi-Jack | Asking to ask is useless, dumb, and stupid. |
| 19:58.40 | xente | I am expaining my rhetoric first |
| 19:58.45 | Psi-Jack | Bye. |
| 19:58.49 | xente | anyways....what does jradius do? |
| 19:59.02 | *** join/#debian Sigur_ (~Sigur@dynamic-adsl-94-38-6-240.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 19:59.06 | Psi-Jack | google will tell you. |
| 19:59.09 | wols | maybe you should ask this the jradius people? |
| 19:59.10 | xente | no, it will not |
| 19:59.13 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 19:59.16 | xente | I have asked them |
| 19:59.17 | Psi-Jack | xente: BYE! |
| 19:59.27 | xente | bye |
| 19:59.28 | Psi-Jack | Have a nice trip. |
| 19:59.32 | wols | xente: do you have a debian question? |
| 19:59.41 | xente | wols: refer to my previous statements |
| 19:59.59 | wols | you haven't asked any debian related question yet. so please come to the point or shut up |
| 20:00.11 | xente | I did come to the point |
| 20:00.19 | Psi-Jack | Interesting how google actually does tell you all about JRadius. |
| 20:00.33 | Psi-Jack | I think xente's lying. |
| 20:00.52 | xente | I don't think so..I have googled for days and haven't found anything that explains much about it |
| 20:00.55 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@84.28.246.30) |
| 20:01.09 | *** join/#debian res22 (~res22@pdpc/supporter/student/res22) |
| 20:01.47 | Psi-Jack | You mean the VERY FIRST and SECOND links don't tell you much at all? |
| 20:01.55 | xente | have you looked at them? |
| 20:01.56 | Psi-Jack | Looks very comprehensive to me. |
| 20:02.12 | gh0st | how can i chmod 0755 dir? |
| 20:02.24 | Psi-Jack | gh0st: JUst like you typed it. |
| 20:02.50 | gh0st | Psi-Jack: not work |
| 20:02.58 | Psi-Jack | It does. |
| 20:03.05 | gh0st | no |
| 20:03.12 | gh0st | it shows drwxr-sr-x |
| 20:03.22 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~SkG@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) |
| 20:03.24 | gh0st | this is 2755 |
| 20:03.31 | gh0st | must to be drwxr-xr-x -> 0755 |
| 20:03.54 | babilen | gh0st: try without the zero ;) |
| 20:04.00 | gh0st | babilen: nothing:) |
| 20:04.10 | jelly-home | gh0st: stupid question, are you the owner? |
| 20:04.12 | babilen | ok, try with nothing :) |
| 20:04.35 | gh0st | jelly-home: yes:) |
| 20:04.37 | Psi-Jack | jelly-home: That was hidden deep within my mind. ;) |
| 20:04.41 | *** join/#debian wahly (~dwahlstro@sea1nat.classmates.com) |
| 20:05.03 | *** join/#debian subqq_ (~subqq@119.82.254.11) |
| 20:05.06 | Psi-Jack | gh0st: And what happends when said chmod command "doesn't work" promptly after execution of it? |
| 20:05.11 | wahly | are there any compressed filesystems that work with debian? |
| 20:05.16 | gh0st | Psi-Jack: yeah |
| 20:05.27 | Psi-Jack | starts reading gh0st's mind. |
| 20:05.29 | jelly-home | "yeah" happens! |
| 20:05.39 | *** join/#debian oblu_ (~oblu@ip-89-103-168-220.karneval.cz) |
| 20:05.39 | gh0st | Psi-Jack: after type of chmod 755 :) |
| 20:05.43 | Psi-Jack | gh0st: I see.. And how does that make you feel? |
| 20:05.46 | jelly-home | steps back slowly |
| 20:05.48 | gh0st | dir is still drwxr-sr-x :) |
| 20:05.59 | gh0st | what? |
| 20:06.07 | Psi-Jack | gh0st: How does that make you feel? |
| 20:06.21 | gh0st | Psi-Jack: i can't understand |
| 20:06.24 | *** join/#debian NoCode (~NoCode@unaffiliated/nocode) |
| 20:06.31 | wols | wahly: any that work with linux |
| 20:06.41 | Psi-Jack | gh0st: MY POINT EXACTLY! Give details, not "yeah" "it doesn't work" etc. |
| 20:07.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 969] by debhelper |
| 20:07.04 | gh0st | Psi-Jack: aaa ok i understand |
| 20:07.13 | Psi-Jack | Now. |
| 20:07.17 | wols | gh0st: under which main directory is this kernel source? |
| 20:07.29 | Psi-Jack | gh0st: What happends when said chmod command "doesn't work" promptly after execution of it? |
| 20:08.00 | gh0st | ok i type the "chmod 755 thedir" and after that it still drwxr-sr-x, must to be drwxr-xr-x |
| 20:08.09 | gh0st | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:08.11 | Psi-Jack | grunts. |
| 20:08.12 | *** mode/#debian [-q *!*@24.180.120.255] by ChanServ |
| 20:08.18 | gh0st | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:08.22 | gh0st | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:08.23 | wahly | wols: do you have experience with compressed file systems in debian? any you would suggest to try or stay away from? |
| 20:08.39 | Psi-Jack | gh0st: When you screw your head on straight, come ask for help. |
| 20:08.41 | wols | !tell gh0st about enter |
| 20:08.42 | *** join/#debian McBonZ (~mcbonz@toreador.user.wh-stuttgart.de) |
| 20:08.43 | Psi-Jack | I'm done. |
| 20:09.13 | gh0st | :)))))))) |
| 20:10.09 | wols | gh0st: next time, unpack that kernel source in your ~ |
| 20:10.35 | jelly-home | gh0st: can you pastebin the complete output of: ls -lLd /usr/src/linux; chmod g-s /usr/src/linux; echo $?; ls -lLd /usr/src/linux |
| 20:10.36 | *** join/#debian [SkG] (~SkG@unaffiliated/skg/x-897332) |
| 20:11.07 | jelly-home | gh0st: replace "/usr/src/linux" with actual directory you're having issues with |
| 20:11.14 | gh0st | jelly-home: yes chmod g-s |
| 20:11.22 | gh0st | thats is |
| 20:11.24 | gh0st | thank u |
| 20:11.40 | wols | !enter |
| 20:11.40 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 20:12.06 | jelly-home | now thinks gh0st is a clever troll |
| 20:12.13 | Psi-Jack | Ditto. |
| 20:12.16 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 20:12.23 | gh0st | i can't remember more commands after 10 years of destiny |
| 20:12.24 | Psi-Jack | I thought that the moment he dodged direct questions. |
| 20:12.31 | gh0st | adn more |
| 20:12.32 | jelly-home | and IHBT :-( |
| 20:13.06 | gh0st | enter! |
| 20:13.07 | *** join/#debian rudi_s_ (~rudi_s@p5DCE4BDB.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:13.14 | *** join/#debian peter14 (~wIRCer@217.191.8.153) |
| 20:13.19 | jelly-home | Best to drown my sorrows in beer. |
| 20:14.31 | *** part/#debian peter14 (~wIRCer@217.191.8.153) |
| 20:14.33 | *** part/#debian wahly (~dwahlstro@sea1nat.classmates.com) |
| 20:15.05 | gh0st | i have lg monitor w2361v-pf who haves this one? |
| 20:15.28 | gh0st | screen is centered on text mode |
| 20:15.36 | gh0st | no autoscale avaialable |
| 20:15.45 | jelly-home | it seems it's +q time |
| 20:15.46 | gh0st | but on graphical is still works on full screen |
| 20:16.00 | *** join/#debian Hans_Henrik (~chatzilla@ti0131a340-0813.bb.online.no) |
| 20:16.02 | X4Fly | is any Grub specialist available? |
| 20:16.11 | jelly-home | gh0st: ask in ##hardware |
| 20:16.34 | gh0st | ok |
| 20:16.36 | jelly-home | X4Fly: we're all special and unique. |
| 20:16.38 | jelly-home | !ask |
| 20:16.38 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 20:16.39 | X4Fly | guess this is not a hardware related topic |
| 20:17.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 962] by debhelper |
| 20:17.18 | X4Fly | i made a disk copy of my whole HD. |
| 20:17.24 | *** join/#debian inimesekene (~inimeseke@15.229.190.90.dyn.estpak.ee) |
| 20:17.49 | Psi-Jack | looks disinterested suddenly. |
| 20:18.02 | X4Fly | while trying to boot from the new HD, grub throws Error 17, due to wrong partition numbers in fstab and mneu.lst |
| 20:18.26 | X4Fly | I used knoppix to change the partition numbers in both files and everything worked well |
| 20:18.44 | *** join/#debian kupesoft (~dave@unaffiliated/kupesoft) |
| 20:18.50 | X4Fly | then i made an kernel image update using apt. |
| 20:19.02 | X4Fly | this made an update of menu-lst again |
| 20:19.05 | *** join/#debian Hans_Henrik (~chatzilla@ti0131a340-0813.bb.online.no) |
| 20:19.23 | jelly-home | X4Fly: which grub, legacy (0.97) or grub2? |
| 20:19.38 | X4Fly | on reboot, grub could not start. then i check menu.lst again, and saw, that the partition numbers are wrong again |
| 20:20.02 | wols | X4Fly: edit the # kop= line in menu.lst |
| 20:20.08 | wols | do NOT edit the kernel... lines |
| 20:20.20 | wols | and d not remove the comment from # kopt either |
| 20:20.43 | wols | jelly-home: grub2 uses grub.cfg :) |
| 20:21.03 | X4Fly | 0.97 |
| 20:21.38 | *** join/#debian Lns (~lns@pdpc/supporter/professional/lns) |
| 20:21.49 | X4Fly | my question is, from where takes apt (or whatever menu.lst updates) the partition numbers |
| 20:21.55 | jelly-home | X4Fly: debian uses a rather... unique syntax to automatically manage kernel entries in menu.lst. Read the comments in menu.lst, then edit the relevant comment-like lines. the "# kopt=..." is probably most important |
| 20:21.59 | *** join/#debian bars0 (~krzysztof@213.156.124.200) |
| 20:22.38 | *** join/#debian behanw (~behanw@216.16.247.198) |
| 20:22.44 | wols | X4Fly: depends which "partition numbers" you mean |
| 20:22.48 | jelly-home | X4Fly: /usr/sbin/update-grub script will update the automatically added entries based on that comment |
| 20:23.16 | *** part/#debian xente (~xente@72-254-127-249.hq.ibahn.com) |
| 20:23.53 | *** join/#debian renga (~renga@201.196.250.138) |
| 20:24.08 | X4Fly | ok, I see. The comment line in menu.lst is used when update menu.lst by the update script |
| 20:24.14 | *** join/#debian Hans_Henrik_ (~chatzilla@ti0131a340-0813.bb.online.no) |
| 20:24.27 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 20:24.39 | *** join/#debian xente (~xente@72-254-127-249.hq.ibahn.com) |
| 20:24.42 | X4Fly | in other words: before my update the root partition was hda2 |
| 20:24.51 | *** join/#debian jamon (jamon@mantis.openject.com) |
| 20:24.58 | X4Fly | according to this the comment line contains # kopt=root=/dev/hda2 ro |
| 20:25.38 | X4Fly | now the root partition is numberbered hda3 -> i have to change also the comment line to hda3. Right? |
| 20:25.51 | jelly-home | X4Fly: and run update-grub again, yes |
| 20:26.14 | X4Fly | and also the # groot=(hd0,1) comment must be adjusted to ....hd0,2 |
| 20:26.56 | X4Fly | is there any other line that needs to be adjusted? |
| 20:27.07 | *** join/#debian R430R (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 20:28.34 | *** join/#debian Spami|Thug (~Spami|Thu@unaffiliated/spamithug/x-9927323) |
| 20:28.50 | jelly-home | that's probably it, see if the new menu.lst makes sense afterwards |
| 20:28.58 | *** part/#debian bars0 (~krzysztof@213.156.124.200) |
| 20:29.13 | X4Fly | ok, thanks you all for your help. much appreciated |
| 20:30.13 | *** join/#debian IceW (old-times@slave.gulug.com.br) |
| 20:30.22 | *** join/#debian Mike__ (~Mike@85.186.19.155) |
| 20:30.34 | *** join/#debian lvh (~lvh@83.101.62.190) |
| 20:31.37 | gigo | when I start wireshark, I get this error: http://pastebin.com/RMvZ4ZY2 |
| 20:31.47 | gigo | the Capture Interfaces list is also empty. please help |
| 20:31.50 | *** join/#debian luminoso (~lumos@av-217-129-131-108.netvisao.pt) |
| 20:31.55 | gigo | I am using Squeeze |
| 20:32.06 | *** join/#debian seisatsu (~seisatsu@153.18.24.64) |
| 20:33.42 | *** join/#debian tholmith (~tholmith@78.96.252.65) |
| 20:34.10 | Titan8990 | gigo: did you check the BTS? are you in the wireshark group? |
| 20:34.49 | gigo | no, i am not in the wireshark group. BTS shows my the same error messages but it seems like it is just an annoying message that cna be removed by changing the settings |
| 20:34.50 | Titan8990 | gigo: did you try the fix *in* the error message? lastly.... why squeeze? |
| 20:34.53 | *** join/#debian gregod (~jkf@PPPoE-56-67.EuroCom.Od.UA) |
| 20:35.24 | gigo | but I don't understand why I am unable to see any interfaces in the capture interface list. |
| 20:35.50 | *** join/#debian jaco (~jaco@41.177.13.105) |
| 20:36.11 | Titan8990 | gigo: or not root or in the correct group, most likely |
| 20:36.28 | gigo | i tried it as root as well. it used to work earlier. |
| 20:36.38 | Titan8990 | gigo: I recommend sniffing with tcpdump and analyzing in wireshark |
| 20:36.41 | gigo | it has stopped working today. i did an upgrade in between |
| 20:36.46 | gigo | ok |
| 20:36.47 | *** join/#debian DimmuR (~DimmuR@unaffiliated/dimmur) |
| 20:37.57 | gigo | my interface is wlan0. could that be a problem? |
| 20:38.09 | gigo | earlier i had LAN, not WLAN. |
| 20:38.18 | *** join/#debian jimcooncat (~jim@lan.howeandcompany.com) |
| 20:39.41 | Titan8990 | not if your wireless card/driver support promisc mode |
| 20:39.43 | *** join/#debian tuvyz (~tuv@unaffiliated/tuv) |
| 20:40.54 | *** join/#debian xlotlu (~john@188.229.32.13) |
| 20:40.54 | gigo | how can we print the HTTP requests using tcpdump. I want to see the GET request along with the HTTP headers |
| 20:41.55 | Titan8990 | gigo: make the captures in tcpdump, open them in wireshark, do what you already know how to do in wireshark |
| 20:42.01 | *** join/#debian st3ffen (steffen@64.85.170.142) |
| 20:42.07 | *** join/#debian jpinx-eeepc (~johnp@190.232.141.161) |
| 20:42.09 | *** join/#debian frikinz (~lulu@p5B0C43EA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:42.22 | *** join/#debian GilJ (~gilles@212.87.98.135) |
| 20:42.29 | *** part/#debian GilJ (~gilles@212.87.98.135) |
| 20:43.08 | jimcooncat | using livecd, how to mount windows partition so the regular non-root user can see it? I have so far "mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/hd/" |
| 20:43.41 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@s83-191-241-142.cust.tele2.se) |
| 20:43.43 | gigo | Titan8990, Wireshark says, it isn't a capture file Wireshark understands. I did: tcpdump > a.tcpdump, did my activities, stopped tcpdump and opened a.tcpdump using wireshark |
| 20:44.19 | *** join/#debian techie26 (~techie@bas21-toronto12-1242432277.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 20:44.20 | Titan8990 | gigo: no, you want the -w option, not a redirected output |
| 20:44.24 | jelly-home | gigo: you wanted to use -wsomefile |
| 20:44.40 | Titan8990 | gigo: tcpdump -i ethx -w foobar.pcap |
| 20:45.04 | jelly-home | gigo: perhaps with some -s1500 and -n sprinkled |
| 20:45.27 | *** part/#debian frikinz (~lulu@p5B0C43EA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:45.27 | jelly-home | and naturally, read the manual to see why those are nice |
| 20:46.39 | *** join/#debian ukd1 (~russ@post.ukd1.co.uk) |
| 20:46.44 | *** join/#debian ChrisTX (lrn2identd@dslb-084-063-102-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 20:47.15 | *** part/#debian ChrisTX (lrn2identd@dslb-084-063-102-145.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 20:47.50 | gigo | it doesn't have a "-n sprinkled" option. it just has one -n option which takes no arguments. it doesn't convert addresses to names |
| 20:48.09 | ukd1 | hi guys I'm having a weird error I could do with a hand with fixing : http://pastie.org/870985 :-) |
| 20:48.17 | ukd1 | (it's to do with aptitude) |
| 20:48.27 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 20:48.30 | gigo | i didn't -s option and i got truncated packets. wondering if the lack of -s option is the reason. |
| 20:48.50 | jhutchins | gigo: Have you considered looking at the man page? |
| 20:49.02 | gigo | yes, that's where i got the above information |
| 20:50.47 | jhutchins | ukd1: how about dpkg-reconfigure libc6? |
| 20:51.00 | ukd1 | staging:~# dpkg-reconfigure libc6 |
| 20:51.00 | ukd1 | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: libc6 is broken or not fully installed |
| 20:51.22 | ukd1 | it's something odd, "ldconfig: /etc/ld.so.conf.d/libc6-xen.conf:6: hwcap index 0 already defined as nosegneg"? |
| 20:51.55 | jelly-home | ukd1: is your machine a Xen domU? |
| 20:52.00 | ukd1 | ya |
| 20:52.09 | ukd1 | jelly-home, I should have mentioned that |
| 20:52.27 | gigo | yeah, tcpdump -s0 fixed that problem. |
| 20:53.26 | *** join/#debian jpinx-eeepc (~johnp@190.232.141.161) |
| 20:54.58 | *** join/#debian zleap (~zleap3@dsl-217-155-46-222.zen.co.uk) |
| 20:55.41 | *** join/#debian pepetrueno (~mikeriver@190.55.43.24) |
| 20:56.08 | *** join/#debian Sashi (~Sashi@S0106002401f32e19.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 20:56.51 | jelly-home | ukd1: I wonder if removing the package that brought "/etc/ld.so.conf.d/libc6-xen.conf" (libc6-xen ?) would make libc6 package finish its configuration (with dpkg --configure -a) |
| 20:57.09 | jhutchins | ukd1: I think the next thing I would try would be removing and re-installing libc6. |
| 20:57.09 | *** join/#debian techie26 (~techie@bas21-toronto12-1242432277.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 20:57.52 | Arrowmaster | dpkg doesnt like it when you remove libc6 |
| 20:57.52 | dpkg | Arrowmaster: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 20:57.54 | ukd1 | jhutchins - that doesn't work, but I think I just fixed it |
| 20:57.57 | *** join/#debian thechef (~testi@adsl-89-217-122-11.adslplus.ch) |
| 20:58.00 | ukd1 | (if I have I'll post up) |
| 20:58.05 | Arrowmaster | i know from experience |
| 20:58.39 | jhutchins | Arrowmaster: Isn't there some sort of --nodeps --force switch? |
| 20:58.49 | ukd1 | jhutchins, ok - that worked - commenting out /etc/ld.so.conf.d/libc6-xen.conf the hwcap line, upgrading now works |
| 20:58.51 | Arrowmaster | oh you can remove it |
| 20:58.56 | *** join/#debian luminoso (~lumos@av-217-129-131-108.netvisao.pt) |
| 20:58.56 | *** join/#debian pierreghz (~TV@cust-29-121-111-94.dyn.as47377.net) |
| 20:59.02 | Arrowmaster | the problem is that it doesnt work anymore once you remove it |
| 20:59.19 | jhutchins | Hm. That's tricky. |
| 20:59.32 | Arrowmaster | i accidentally did it once and i couldnt reinstall the package |
| 21:00.05 | Arrowmaster | i got around it by putting the needed files from libc6 in /usr/local to let apt/dpkg run to reinstall it |
| 21:01.38 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~r430r@89.122.205.66) |
| 21:02.22 | *** join/#debian Mr-R (~rex@pD9FFAF66.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:02.44 | *** join/#debian andres833 (~andres833@190.144.75.22) |
| 21:03.41 | jhutchins_lt | Smart |
| 21:03.49 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~project25@86.51.114.108) |
| 21:05.45 | *** join/#debian starenka (~starenka@r2r157.net.upc.cz) |
| 21:06.36 | Bohemian | i just tried this command: "deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ lenny main non-free" got the error, "su: deb: command not found" |
| 21:06.41 | Bohemian | anyone know what's wrong? |
| 21:07.11 | jhutchins_lt | Bohemian: Nothing's wrong. |
| 21:07.29 | Bohemian | well, it says command not found... is deb not a command anymore? |
| 21:07.30 | cahoot | it's not supposed to be a 'coomand' |
| 21:07.31 | jpinx-eeepc | that has to be qotd |
| 21:07.38 | jhutchins_lt | Bohemian: What did you think you were trying to do? |
| 21:08.00 | Bohemian | i'm trying to get into the non-free sourcetree |
| 21:08.03 | Bohemian | or whatever it's called |
| 21:08.42 | BerMeJo | i'm having problems with iceweasel 3.5.8, flashplugin-nonfree, debian squeeze and megavideo.com flash, when page load i try to click play button, and nothing happend .... Anybody know about this? |
| 21:08.48 | abrotman | Bohemian: that goes in your sources.list ? |
| 21:09.04 | Bohemian | oh |
| 21:09.41 | Bohemian | wow, what a bad guide |
| 21:09.42 | Bohemian | thanks |
| 21:09.46 | Bohemian | and sorry for the stupid question |
| 21:09.47 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe2 (~havoc@SE400.PPPoE-5804.sa.bih.net.ba) |
| 21:09.51 | Bohemian | what does "Deb" stand for? |
| 21:10.42 | stockholm | deb is usually the ending of the debian binary packages |
| 21:11.04 | stockholm | in DEBian "deb" stands for deborah, as in ians wife |
| 21:11.04 | NoReflex | hello! Would it be possible to somehow specify which daemons should use the upstart feature and which should use the "init" system? |
| 21:11.17 | tholmith | jimcooncat, foud a solution yet? |
| 21:11.40 | abrotman | NoReflex: a) why not insserv b) upstart replaces init AIUI |
| 21:11.45 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@20158149134.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 21:11.55 | abrotman | stockholm: ex-wife ? |
| 21:12.28 | *** join/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@141-189-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 21:13.20 | PyroPhelia | has anybody ever heard of replacing the rm command with a mv command? |
| 21:13.25 | *** join/#debian raz0 (~raz0@x1-6-00-18-4d-e8-79-94.k687.webspeed.dk) |
| 21:13.31 | PyroPhelia | that's what I want to do but I'm not sure how to do it |
| 21:14.43 | AimHere | You mean change rm so that it moves files into some 'safe' directory for future deletion at some future time? |
| 21:14.49 | *** join/#debian _Fred (~Fred@coincoin.chickenkiller.com) |
| 21:14.57 | PyroPhelia | yes |
| 21:15.09 | _Fred | hello everybody |
| 21:15.28 | _Fred | do someon know how to create a user with all root privileges |
| 21:15.29 | _Fred | ? |
| 21:15.37 | PyroPhelia | yea, it's called root |
| 21:15.53 | PyroPhelia | AimHere, any ideas? |
| 21:16.05 | _Fred | a new user ;) |
| 21:16.20 | AimHere | PyroPhelia, look into the safe-rm package |
| 21:16.55 | jhutchins_lt | _Fred: That's not how things work in linux. |
| 21:17.00 | jhutchins_lt | _Fred: root is unique. |
| 21:17.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 956] by debhelper |
| 21:17.00 | _Fred | i'm sure there is a way |
| 21:17.04 | _Fred | i know |
| 21:17.18 | _Fred | i'ts for a temporary usage |
| 21:17.22 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@s83-191-241-131.cust.tele2.se) |
| 21:17.24 | PyroPhelia | _Fred, root is built into the kernel. it's not actually a user. |
| 21:17.32 | _Fred | ok |
| 21:17.40 | _Fred | not all the root's rights |
| 21:17.41 | *** join/#debian Zaidwi (~Zaidwi@41.251.125.119) |
| 21:17.42 | orfix | _Fred: useradd then edit /etc/sudoers |
| 21:17.55 | *** join/#debian techie26 (~techie@bas21-toronto12-1242432277.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 21:18.01 | *** join/#debian aftertaf (~quassel@2a01:e35:2e2d:f040:21e:e5ff:fea5:a723) |
| 21:18.04 | _Fred | but the right to make install, edit files like apache |
| 21:18.07 | _Fred | reboot apache |
| 21:18.07 | stockholm | abrotman: i dont know |
| 21:18.12 | _Fred | stuff like that |
| 21:18.21 | orfix | then you can prefix your commands with sudo |
| 21:18.29 | orfix | s/can/have |
| 21:18.33 | jhutchins_lt | _Fred: You'd have to set up sudo first. |
| 21:18.56 | _Fred | hya but everytime sudo ask for root pass |
| 21:19.00 | NoReflex | abrotman: I thought upstart doesn't totally replace init...insserv seems to do the same as update-rc.d... |
| 21:19.06 | _Fred | anoying |
| 21:19.09 | jhutchins_lt | _Fred: no, that's not how it works. |
| 21:19.13 | jimcooncat | tholmith: no, I enabled the root password and ssh'd in. close enough for today |
| 21:19.18 | *** join/#debian spectre- (~n900@h3f06.n1.ips.mtn.co.ug) |
| 21:19.24 | _Fred | i know linux |
| 21:19.35 | _Fred | i know its bad to give that rights |
| 21:19.41 | _Fred | to another user |
| 21:19.46 | _Fred | but i know its possible |
| 21:19.59 | _Fred | i'm just searchin how to |
| 21:20.01 | jelly-home | _Fred: this is typically done on a separate development server, then deployed by the admin. You can give them root, but change the password afterwards |
| 21:20.09 | jhutchins_lt | If you already know the answer, why are you asking us? |
| 21:20.17 | orfix | \o/ |
| 21:20.21 | _Fred | i'm just searchin how to |
| 21:20.48 | _Fred | i'm not searchin for troll stuff |
| 21:20.49 | *** join/#debian techie26 (~techie@bas21-toronto12-1242432277.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 21:21.13 | jelly-home | _Fred: just... open a normal user account for your vendor to be able to log in, then give them root access to use via su or sudo |
| 21:21.20 | *** join/#debian dArK_IcE (~lawl@a83-132-170-41.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 21:21.24 | *** join/#debian AlHafoudh (~AlHafoudh@icm7-orange.orange.sk) |
| 21:21.40 | jelly-home | _Fred: when they're finished, restore your old root password and lock out their account |
| 21:21.56 | *** join/#debian sansen (~san@190.245.97.224) |
| 21:22.00 | *** join/#debian techie26 (~techie@bas21-toronto12-1242432277.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 21:22.22 | _Fred | jelly-home: i search how to make that to help someone with his vps |
| 21:22.33 | _Fred | i'm searching for a simple way to get access |
| 21:22.42 | babilen | sudo asks for the user's password, not root's |
| 21:23.01 | helo | yeah... sudo is what you want... you can always remove them from sudoers when you want to restrict access later |
| 21:23.08 | jelly-home | _Fred: simpler than creating a user and giving them root? |
| 21:23.08 | _Fred | ok |
| 21:23.34 | _Fred | creating a user with root privilèges seems to be difficult |
| 21:23.47 | abrotman | it's called ... 'root' |
| 21:23.48 | jhutchins_lt | _Fred: sudo will also buffer the password so you don't have to enter it every time. |
| 21:23.48 | helo | sounds about right to me :) |
| 21:23.50 | jelly-home | _Fred: yeah, you _don't_ do that |
| 21:24.12 | _Fred | jhutchins_lt: yep |
| 21:24.15 | vegardx | sudo gives you the capability of logging what user made what superuser changes. |
| 21:24.18 | _Fred | i know all that stuff |
| 21:24.23 | *** join/#debian nse (~leo@187.59.241.85) |
| 21:24.29 | jelly-home | _Fred: you create a normal user for them to log in. Then you give them root password, or set up sudo so they can get to the root shell without the root password |
| 21:24.33 | _Fred | i will try with sudo |
| 21:24.33 | vegardx | That capability you will not have by giving them direct access to root or via su. |
| 21:24.56 | jhutchins_lt | Windows can have multiple "Administrators". Linux has root, which is unique. |
| 21:25.40 | vegardx | You can give a user the same group as root, and then it will have the same access? Or? |
| 21:25.50 | lindi- | vegardx: you can give same uid too |
| 21:25.58 | NoReflex | jhutchins: but any user can become root with sudo if it has an entry in /etc/sudoers - or at least he should be able to run some commnds defined in /etc/sudoers |
| 21:26.05 | *** join/#debian xlotlu (~john@188.229.32.13) |
| 21:26.19 | *** join/#debian hercynium (~hercynium@p3m/member/hercynium) |
| 21:26.30 | *** part/#debian ^Willie^ (~kvirc@unaffiliated/willie/x-000000001) |
| 21:27.02 | *** join/#debian techie26 (~techie@bas21-toronto12-1242432277.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 21:27.20 | jhutchins_lt | vegardx: Group membership isn't quite the same, but you can build a system that controlls access using something like the admin group. |
| 21:27.48 | jhutchins_lt | vegardx: Most distros aren't really set up to use group like an acl system, but you can set it up that way. |
| 21:28.03 | jhutchins_lt | There are also acl systems for linux. |
| 21:28.07 | PyroPhelia | AimHere, That's a great start. it's better than nothing. but safe-rm doesn't seem to be that flexible. I need to protect an active video database. people are adding and deleting files all the time. It seems all I can do is make it so that nobody can ever delete from the directory...which isn't a bad thing. but I would love a way to simply move the files to say /srv/trash and set it to root only so I can go in there and delete th |
| 21:28.07 | PyroPhelia | e things that really should be deleted. |
| 21:28.25 | *** join/#debian zepp^ (~zepp@b76042.upc-b.chello.nl) |
| 21:28.28 | *** join/#debian Hans_Henrik (~chatzilla@ti0131a340-0813.bb.online.no) |
| 21:30.23 | *** join/#debian emma (~em@unaffiliated/emma) |
| 21:30.57 | PyroPhelia | AimHere, see heres the biggest problem. right now I have multiple clients connecting to the server internally. nfs/afp/smb/sftp/etc. I need our editors an artists to work on the server and do what they need to do non-stop. removing the ability to delete files from the production would really through a wrench into the monkey works. |
| 21:31.08 | *** join/#debian araknos (~ahhaahahh@host65-167-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 21:31.16 | araknos | can you tell me what i am wrong: |
| 21:31.20 | araknos | MAKEFLAGS="ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=$TOOLCHAIN_PATH INSTALL_MOD_PATH=$MODULES_PATH/kernel-modules" make-kpkg --arch armel --append-to-version=-rhobuntu-01 --cross-compile=/home/raul/rhobunu/arm-2008q3/bin/arm-linux-gnueabi- --zimage binary kernel_image modules --initrd |
| 21:31.28 | araknos | where all the paths are right |
| 21:31.31 | araknos | i get |
| 21:31.54 | PyroPhelia | araknos, pastebin or you might get the boot. |
| 21:31.57 | araknos | dpkg-architecture: warning: Specified GNU system type arm-linux-gnueabi does not match gcc system type i486-linux-gnu. |
| 21:32.43 | PyroPhelia | araknos, your trying to compile a kernel with arm cou support on a x86 processor? |
| 21:32.48 | jelly-home | araknos: where's you crosscompiling toolchain installed? |
| 21:32.49 | *** join/#debian do0ob (~ace@79-68-186-239.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 21:32.52 | PyroPhelia | s/cou/cpu |
| 21:33.00 | jelly-home | araknos: which debian release are you using? |
| 21:33.13 | araknos | 4.0 |
| 21:33.24 | araknos | PyroPhelia: on home path |
| 21:33.36 | jelly-home | araknos: echo $TOOLCHAIN_PATH ? |
| 21:34.20 | jelly-home | perhaps #debian-kernel would have an idea about using kernel-package for crosscompilation |
| 21:34.36 | jelly-home | araknos: they're on irc.debian.org |
| 21:34.38 | araknos | wont do nothing outside the script it is still /home/raul/rhobunu/arm-2008q3/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi- |
| 21:34.42 | *** join/#debian Mr_Deffy (~Deffy@24-183-188-133.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) |
| 21:34.42 | *** join/#debian mezod (~nnscript@99.Red-80-34-140.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:34.43 | *** join/#debian mezod (~nnscript@unaffiliated/mezod) |
| 21:35.07 | araknos | /home/raul/rhobunu/arm-2008q3/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi- |
| 21:35.19 | jelly-home | still failing! |
| 21:36.12 | *** join/#debian eix (~chatzilla@host219-167-dynamic.56-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 21:36.13 | *** join/#debian slb_ (~nada@ool-4354b092.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 21:36.43 | slb_ | how come i can tinstall xbmc via aptitude? i see it on debian-multimeda.org |
| 21:37.01 | eix | hi there people. how can I install debian on a certain partition without booting with anything? e.g. I'd like to debootstrap it now, is that possible? |
| 21:37.54 | *** join/#debian TheOnly (~theonly@cpc12-sgyl29-2-0-cust6.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 21:38.48 | tholmith | jimcooncat, you can chmod a+rwx /mnt/hd |
| 21:42.02 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@s83-191-241-142.cust.tele2.se) |
| 21:42.28 | jimcooncat | tholmith: thanks, boss took the laptop and ran |
| 21:43.00 | jimcooncat | no one has patience anymore |
| 21:43.25 | *** join/#debian Chris___ (~hans@linode.honk-honk.org) |
| 21:43.33 | Chris___ | would it break anything if I did "chmod 700 /home/chris" on my server, to protect it from other users who have access to the server? |
| 21:43.50 | Titan8990 | Chris___: no, and I would recommend it |
| 21:43.59 | Chris___ | shiny. thanks. |
| 21:46.09 | Titan8990 | judd: versions screen |
| 21:46.10 | judd | screen -- etch: 4.0.3-0.3+b1; lenny: 4.0.3-11+lenny1; sid: 4.0.3-14; squeeze: 4.0.3-14 |
| 21:46.52 | *** join/#debian buntfalke (~nobody@unaffiliated/buntfalke) |
| 21:47.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 945] by debhelper |
| 21:47.31 | *** join/#debian jpinx-eeepc (~johnp@190.232.141.161) |
| 21:47.52 | *** join/#debian jzacsh (~jzacsh@64.134.241.150) |
| 21:48.05 | *** join/#debian Spami|Thug_ (~Spami|Thu@ALyon-153-1-36-4.w86-194.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 21:48.06 | *** join/#debian Sai-- (~sia@0120600067.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 21:48.21 | tholmith | eix, what you mean without booting? |
| 21:49.16 | *** join/#debian linuxwizard (~linuxwiza@c-98-193-113-147.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 21:50.20 | eix | tholmith: without rebooting with a CD/DVD/USB |
| 21:50.48 | *** join/#debian fantasticulous (~frog@85.122.81.58) |
| 21:51.00 | tholmith | eix, are you using debian now? |
| 21:51.54 | eix | tholmith: no |
| 21:51.55 | eix | tholmith: I don't think debootstrap needs debian to work |
| 21:51.58 | Titan8990 | eix: if you can mount the hard disk partitions, then yes, with deboostrap |
| 21:52.10 | eix | Titan8990: ok then - I'll get it now and try |
| 21:52.17 | Titan8990 | eix: no, its a shell script that should work on any POSIX compliant os with wget |
| 21:52.18 | tholmith | eix, from what i know debootstrap is usable only on a unix like system. |
| 21:52.18 | eix | actually it just finished resizing partitions |
| 21:52.30 | eix | tholmith: yep - I have linux here |
| 21:53.06 | tholmith | eix, read this as a start: http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
| 21:53.35 | Titan8990 | !install guide |
| 21:53.35 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0.4) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual . See also <errata> and <installer firmware>. |
| 21:53.51 | Titan8990 | the wiki is limited, the install guide does a much better job of covering deboostrap IMO |
| 21:54.12 | eix | I am already on the manual, I just wanted to be sure before proceeding |
| 21:54.12 | *** join/#debian afurlan (~afurlan@189.34.72.40) |
| 21:54.27 | slb_ | i have a local dns server set up adn it works with windows as my windows dns so i can access my local server by name, i am using openvpn to try to bridge, but once i bridge my internet totally fails on my linux box and my windows box (because of the dns i assume) how can i fix this or get bridging to work but maintain my connections? |
| 21:54.57 | Chris___ | Titan8990: appears there was only one issue with that, which I didn't think would be an issue since apache runs as root, but my web folder (/home/web/) is no longer viewable by apache, my whole site gets 403'd |
| 21:55.11 | *** join/#debian xomas (~justyou@41.130.212.104) |
| 21:55.11 | *** join/#debian xomas (~justyou@unaffiliated/xomas) |
| 21:55.33 | Titan8990 | Chris___: the apache proc most certainly does not run as root... |
| 21:55.51 | eix | do you suggest using cdebootstrap? |
| 21:55.54 | Chris___ | that's right, it runs as www-data |
| 21:55.56 | Titan8990 | Chris___: but yes, permissions do need to be relaxed for that type of apache hosting |
| 21:56.04 | eix | I am used to the script-like deboostrap |
| 21:56.17 | Chris___ | 755 on /home/web/ ? |
| 21:56.27 | tholmith | eix, it is posible, but beware of mistakes. it can take some time if you're not careful. took me 2 moths to figure out a 'procedure' for installing sid over aes-xts encrytped lvm2. might not be the case for you. |
| 21:57.03 | eix | tholmith: you're talking about cdebootstrap specifically or the cross-installation procedure in general? |
| 21:57.05 | tholmith | eix, i'd sugest debootstrap. cdebootstrap didn't worked for me. |
| 21:57.09 | mischief | where are the example xen configs in debian :( |
| 21:57.11 | eix | tholmith: ok - thanks |
| 21:57.30 | Titan8990 | Chris___: yes, make sure ~/.ssh remains 700 though |
| 21:57.42 | tholmith | eix, i installed using debian. no idea how will work using another host. |
| 21:57.46 | Chris___ | ok, thanks Titan8990 :) |
| 21:57.49 | Bohemian | Titan8990: are you familiar with apache2? |
| 21:57.58 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: yes |
| 21:58.45 | eix | I am setting this up for an average user. shall I use sid or the stable one? |
| 21:58.45 | Bohemian | Titan8990: i'm trying to set up mod_rewrite so i can have clean urls with drupal. someone in #httpd told me to edit apache2.conf with the RewriteEngine On there and not in htaccess, someone else said don't touch apache2.conf |
| 21:59.13 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: you want that in your vhost config most likely |
| 21:59.25 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: I am not familar with that specifically though |
| 21:59.27 | Bohemian | Titan8990: i don't have a vhost set up. is it required? |
| 21:59.48 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: vhosts are setup by defualt |
| 22:00.03 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: /etc/apache2/sites-available |
| 22:00.27 | Bohemian | i have etc/apache2/sites-available/default |
| 22:00.28 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: if you don't, you would edit /etc/apache2/httpd.conf |
| 22:00.29 | Bohemian | is taht fine? |
| 22:00.43 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: yes, that is a vhost config |
| 22:00.49 | Bohemian | okay |
| 22:00.57 | eix | will stick to sid |
| 22:01.07 | Titan8990 | recommends against that |
| 22:01.18 | Psi-Jack | does to. |
| 22:01.21 | *** join/#debian ziggy (~ziggy@77.228.105.226) |
| 22:01.42 | tholmith | is using sid. will provide help with install. |
| 22:02.00 | Psi-Jack | beats tholmith with an electrified cluebat. |
| 22:02.06 | *** join/#debian amblin (~user@unaffiliated/amblin) |
| 22:02.13 | Titan8990 | tholmith: if they need help installing, they *definatly* should not be using sid |
| 22:02.17 | Titan8990 | !unstable |
| 22:02.17 | dpkg | [unstable] The status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. Not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use it or how, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges (!) See also <testing>, <sid>, <sid faq>, <apt-listbugs>, <apt-listchanges>, <bts>. |
| 22:02.33 | eix | whoa |
| 22:02.50 | eix | Titan8990: I don't need help installing, I am doing it myself |
| 22:02.57 | eix | Titan8990: I asked for some opinions as you can see :) |
| 22:03.26 | eix | dpkg: ok, but really - we know it's not that way! |
| 22:03.26 | dpkg | eix: i don't know |
| 22:03.37 | eix | yeah - sure |
| 22:03.39 | eix | stands back |
| 22:04.00 | *** join/#debian dont (X@78.83.146.85) |
| 22:04.37 | *** join/#debian HandyGandy (~HandyGand@adsl-76-197-138-47.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:04.56 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 22:05.06 | *** join/#debian endri (~runa@2001:638:407:1e:201:4aff:fe06:4e98) |
| 22:05.13 | Psi-Jack | I wonder how lucky I'd be to find the same $430 system at CompUSA's actual store that has 7GB DDR2 800Mhz RAM, Phentom X4 9150e CPU, and stuff.. Would make one heck of a nice virtualization box for a while. |
| 22:05.33 | Psi-Jack | Prolly toss 4-5 of my systems out just for that 1. |
| 22:05.35 | eix | Psi-Jack: do you already own one? |
| 22:05.48 | Titan8990 | compusa didn't shut down everywhere? |
| 22:05.50 | Psi-Jack | eix: Not that's used as a server, no. |
| 22:05.57 | Psi-Jack | Titan8990: No. Tiger Direct bought them out. |
| 22:06.08 | Psi-Jack | Kept some of the stores open for retail sales. :) |
| 22:06.13 | jhutchins_lt | eix: You asked for an average user - definitely NOT sid! |
| 22:06.20 | *** join/#debian ania_ (~ania@cpc1-wolv4-0-0-cust347.wolv.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 22:06.26 | Titan8990 | Psi-Jack: they closed in my city... but their prices were outrageos |
| 22:06.30 | Psi-Jack | Heh |
| 22:06.38 | eix | jhutchins_lt: sure but I'll mantain it |
| 22:06.40 | Psi-Jack | They are beating everyone in town here for prices. |
| 22:06.43 | *** join/#debian danley (~danley@stgt-5f73feb2.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 22:06.47 | Titan8990 | Psi-Jack: even their 50% off going out of business sale was too high priced for me |
| 22:06.50 | Psi-Jack | They even nearly well compete with newegg's prices. |
| 22:07.03 | jhutchins_lt | eix: It doesn't matter. It BREAKS. It breaks in ways you can't fix immediately. |
| 22:07.07 | Bohemian | Titan8990: there is nothing in my etc/apache2/httpd.conf file... is that normal? |
| 22:07.08 | endri | hello i have problems with my graphics card. i can not use mplayer fullscreen. this is my dmesg http://pastebin.com/769jtRs7. When i start my system in the boot i get a lot of warnings... |
| 22:07.10 | eix | jhutchins_lt: uhm.. |
| 22:07.26 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: in debian, yes |
| 22:07.33 | eix | jhutchins_lt: is the next stable release already planned? |
| 22:07.41 | jhutchins_lt | Bohemian: Yeah, they've gone to distributed modular configs. |
| 22:07.48 | *** part/#debian Chris___ (~hans@linode.honk-honk.org) |
| 22:07.50 | *** join/#debian Holborn (~holborn@unaffiliated/holborn) |
| 22:07.58 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: sorry, apache2.conf.... |
| 22:08.02 | jhutchins_lt | eix: That would be squeeze. When it's ready. |
| 22:08.06 | Bohemian | okay, is that where i put the RewriteEngine On too? |
| 22:08.14 | eix | jhutchins_lt: yeah :) |
| 22:08.18 | Bohemian | wait, i edit the apach2.conf or httpd.conf? |
| 22:08.30 | jhutchins_lt | Bohemian: modules-available, modules-enabled. |
| 22:08.53 | jhutchins_lt | Someone might know of a guide for using the -available -enabled system on Debian, I just kinda stumbled it out myself. |
| 22:09.02 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: they would all get loaded, can't say what the actual "best" practice is |
| 22:09.27 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: apache2 would get loaded first |
| 22:09.27 | Psi-Jack | But yeah, those specs aren't too shabby for essentially replacing 4 32-bit 1.8-2.4GHz systems with just that 1 virtualizer box, eh? ;) |
| 22:09.28 | helo | hopes we've mentioned using a2enmod |
| 22:09.48 | jhutchins_lt | helo: Perhaps there's a howto or a wiki guide? |
| 22:09.56 | Titan8990 | I believe he has to add something to the config in addition to enabling the module |
| 22:10.06 | Titan8990 | if not, I fail for not digging deeper.... |
| 22:10.22 | eix | jhutchins_lt: but now there's the 2years deadline, how much time is left second that? |
| 22:10.56 | *** join/#debian LinuxMercedes (~LinuxMerc@131.151.64.153) |
| 22:11.20 | eix | mmh..would it be possible to switch from sid to testing? |
| 22:11.48 | helo | Bohemian: a little old, but http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/136 |
| 22:11.59 | helo | Bohemian: be sure to look at the "Apache2" section, and not "Apache" |
| 22:12.02 | *** join/#debian techie26 (~techie@bas21-toronto12-1242432277.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 22:12.08 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@s83-191-241-131.cust.tele2.se) |
| 22:12.26 | *** join/#debian dirkson (~dirkson@97-115-70-194.ptld.qwest.net) |
| 22:13.09 | Psi-Jack | So when it comes down to it. For virtualizing servers. What do people generally prefer, and why? kvm, or Xen? |
| 22:13.17 | eix | what happens if I deboostrap squeeze over sid? |
| 22:13.21 | *** part/#debian NoReflex (~ionut@86.34.4.14) |
| 22:13.33 | eix | I guess that there could be some stale files in /etc |
| 22:13.41 | eix | but not necessarily |
| 22:14.11 | *** join/#debian tarnzwerg (~abc@77-20-147-39-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 22:14.19 | helo | Psi-Jack: not to be an ass, but you can probably find some pretty in-depth articles on that topic elsewhere |
| 22:14.57 | jhutchins_lt | eix: I believe lenny went stable last year, but thankfully debian releases when the release meets certain criteria, not just because a calendar date is reached. |
| 22:15.18 | eix | jhutchins_lt: yes I like that |
| 22:15.29 | edwin_quijada | which VM can recomenmed |
| 22:15.31 | jhutchins_lt | Psi-Jack: People prefer vmware, but it's not free. |
| 22:15.41 | edwin_quijada | to use with a minimal debian install |
| 22:15.49 | *** part/#debian dont (X@78.83.146.85) |
| 22:15.52 | Psi-Jack | VMWare, wastes a lot of power at the guest os just by being... Java. heh |
| 22:15.56 | jhutchins_lt | edwin_quijada: For what? |
| 22:16.14 | edwin_quijada | for emulate a windows server |
| 22:16.19 | edwin_quijada | XP pro |
| 22:16.27 | edwin_quijada | with one program |
| 22:16.35 | edwin_quijada | just one |
| 22:16.50 | vegardx | VMWare does paravirt too, Psi-Jack. |
| 22:16.52 | Titan8990 | XP pro is a windows server now? |
| 22:17.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 937] by debhelper |
| 22:17.13 | jhutchins_lt | Titan8990: Yeah, in a limited way. |
| 22:17.21 | Psi-Jack | vegardx: yeah, as does xen, but I can't see that kvm does. |
| 22:17.36 | edwin_quijada | Titan8990: That just I need |
| 22:17.44 | vegardx | Psi-Jack: kvm uses containers. |
| 22:17.53 | Psi-Jack | Ahhhh. |
| 22:17.53 | edwin_quijada | I think Vmware |
| 22:17.55 | vegardx | It has it's pros and cons. |
| 22:17.55 | jhutchins_lt | edwin_quijada: Does the windows program run under wine or crossover? |
| 22:18.01 | Psi-Jack | Hmmm.. |
| 22:18.15 | edwin_quijada | undern windows |
| 22:18.17 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@88-138-189-32.adslgp.cegetel.net) |
| 22:18.21 | vegardx | I personally prefer Xen and XenServer over any other, as it's free and pretty good. |
| 22:18.36 | vegardx | And XenServer lets you run native virtualization too |
| 22:18.53 | Psi-Jack | Well, my main intended goal is to make at least two VM's specifically for mysql and postgresql, with snapshoting backups that;ll get stored on the NAS or something, replacing 4 servers that do live replication as-is now. |
| 22:18.54 | vegardx | But if I had the proper hardware i'd be running vmware esxi |
| 22:18.55 | edwin_quijada | another question : I want to spend the minor resorusece |
| 22:19.26 | edwin_quijada | so I install a minimal GUI like fluxboz or something like that |
| 22:20.04 | Psi-Jack | verwilst: Does Xen allow you to setup migrations like VMWare Sphere does, or no? |
| 22:20.08 | vegardx | Psi-Jack: You should check out Nimbus XenServer Backup then! |
| 22:20.25 | vegardx | Does backups to Amazon S3 of nfs/cifs mounts. |
| 22:20.46 | Psi-Jack | Bleh, I am my own service provider, I don't want Amazon S3. ;) |
| 22:20.55 | vegardx | Heh |
| 22:20.56 | *** join/#debian vici0us (~vici0us@127.34-241-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 22:21.00 | *** join/#debian canolucas (~canolucas@190.245.128.159) |
| 22:21.02 | *** join/#debian pihhan (~pihhan@pihhan.cipis.net) |
| 22:21.16 | canolucas | fsck says my disk is 16.4% non contiguous. does anyone know a defrag tool that will work with ext4 ? |
| 22:21.33 | vegardx | Psi-Jack: what kind of servers do you have? |
| 22:21.40 | user_ | canolucas: don't bother |
| 22:22.03 | *** join/#debian Hans_Henrik (~chatzilla@ti0131a340-0813.bb.online.no) |
| 22:22.05 | eix | gee..less is not installed by default |
| 22:22.05 | *** join/#debian shingouz (shingouz@80-186-21-226.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 22:22.09 | *** join/#debian harovali (~harovali@r190-135-18-70.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 22:22.11 | zinx | canolucas: how much free space do you have on that disk? |
| 22:22.15 | harovali | has anyone fighted the intel video configuration lately ? Mine is having the following problem : latest kernel , latest driver , 82845G intel hardware, nomodeset=0 i915.nomodeset=0 , Xorg works fine , but switching to virtual terminals (ctrl alt f1) makes the LCD Monitor go "out of range" , and a black screen |
| 22:22.27 | canolucas | zinz: 20% |
| 22:22.35 | canolucas | zinz: more or less |
| 22:23.57 | zinx | canolucas: i wouldn't bother :/ |
| 22:24.29 | canolucas | will the FS defrag automatically? |
| 22:25.13 | eix | cross-installed debian is working :) |
| 22:28.09 | eix | do we have the BFS-patched kernel somewhere? |
| 22:28.18 | eix | feels like asking for drugs |
| 22:30.39 | *** join/#debian Selveste1____ (~Selveste1@88.83.86.20.static.dong.customer.smilecontent.dk) |
| 22:31.10 | *** join/#debian [Jasper] (~jverberk@196-215-15-188.dynamic.isadsl.co.za) |
| 22:31.36 | [Jasper] | hej guys, I have a problem with one of my customers...his root login for ssh is disabled..he had one user....and he intsalled cpanl |
| 22:31.38 | [Jasper] | cpanel |
| 22:31.42 | [Jasper] | now he can't use su anymore... |
| 22:31.48 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@88-138-189-32.adslgp.cegetel.net) |
| 22:31.54 | [Jasper] | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:32.00 | [Jasper] | so he can't go to root anymore.. |
| 22:32.05 | [Jasper] | is there anyway to fix this remotely? |
| 22:32.17 | nevyn | does he have sudo access? |
| 22:32.47 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@h243n2c1o269.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 22:33.11 | eix | [Jasper]: you'll need to call support |
| 22:34.21 | [Jasper] | eix yes, I'm support in this matter.. |
| 22:34.31 | [Jasper] | so is there anyway this can be solved remotely? |
| 22:34.48 | eix | [Jasper]: is your user in the sudoers file? |
| 22:35.24 | jhutchins_lt | [Jasper]: If you have sudo set up you might be able to get around it with that, otherwise... does cpanel have a root utility of some sort? |
| 22:35.36 | *** join/#debian Vasistha (~david@unaffiliated/vasistha) |
| 22:35.44 | tholmith | i edited /etc/xdg/user-dirs.conf and now filename_encoding is set to locale, also ~/.config/user-dirs.locale contains: ro_RO, which is the locale i use atm, but the folders defined in ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs are still named in english. i did run xdg-user-dirs-update and i also have relogin into gnome. am i doing something wrong? should i just edit ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs and set the names in curent locale? |
| 22:35.50 | [Jasper] | I have no idea, never used cpanel..this customer just send me an email with this problem.. |
| 22:35.52 | [Jasper] | sucky... |
| 22:36.12 | JohnSP | I think ubuntu has a serious bug. |
| 22:36.14 | JohnSP | In my school was installed Ubuntu 9.10 and after that several people are losing all data from yours pen-drives that are they used in Windows XP too. |
| 22:36.15 | JohnSP | Even unmounting the USB drive, sometimes you lose all data, even partition. |
| 22:36.43 | *** join/#debian SaphirusTux (~SaphirusT@41.227.196.231) |
| 22:36.48 | dutchfish | JohnSP: ask #ubuntu |
| 22:37.04 | [Jasper] | hmm.... jhutchins_lt ...should be /etc/sudoers right? |
| 22:37.09 | jhutchins_lt | JohnSP: Sometimes USB drives do that, doesn't matter what OS they're using. |
| 22:37.18 | [Jasper] | lookslike the file doesn't exist |
| 22:37.29 | *** join/#debian dv_ (~dv@85-127-128-204.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 22:37.34 | babilen | [Jasper]: 'visudo' as root |
| 22:37.43 | jhutchins_lt | [Jasper]: sudo isn't set up by default in debian. If someone set it up, you can use it. If no-one did, then you're down to booting to single user mode. |
| 22:37.48 | [Jasper] | I can't get root access |
| 22:37.57 | [Jasper] | only su is setup.. |
| 22:38.25 | jhutchins_lt | Three finger salute time. |
| 22:38.45 | [Jasper] | .. |
| 22:39.17 | [Jasper] | this is seriously messed up |
| 22:40.06 | *** join/#debian Spami|Thug (~Spami|Thu@unaffiliated/spamithug/x-9927323) |
| 22:40.10 | *** join/#debian Hans_Henrik (~chatzilla@ti0131a340-0813.bb.online.no) |
| 22:40.19 | jhutchins_lt | [Jasper]: Well yes, cpanel. |
| 22:40.44 | babilen | cpanel as in http://www.cpanel.net/ ? |
| 22:41.15 | [Jasper] | yes I guess so babilen |
| 22:42.03 | tholmith | [Jasper], you said that 'his root login for ssh is disabled'. why would one allow root to ssh? ssh with a normal user and su to root. worst case afetr su to root, add that user to sudo group or visudo and give rights only to that user. i might be wrong though... |
| 22:42.21 | babilen | you are not |
| 22:42.25 | tholmith | s/afetr/after |
| 22:43.16 | [Jasper] | yes tholmith that's what's setup |
| 22:43.21 | [Jasper] | but now his normal user can't SU anymore.. |
| 22:43.25 | [Jasper] | after he installed cpanel |
| 22:43.28 | dutchfish | [Jasper]: can you still login to cpanel? if yes, it mught be due to a firewall rule |
| 22:43.38 | dutchfish | s/mught/might |
| 22:43.41 | [Jasper] | -bash: /bin/su: Permission denied |
| 22:43.48 | [Jasper] | when normal user types su |
| 22:44.08 | dutchfish | [Jasper]: and su - ? |
| 22:44.13 | eix | [Jasper]: stat /bin/su what says? |
| 22:44.44 | eix | dutchfish: it's not running, "su -" will result in the same error |
| 22:44.58 | eix | dutchfish: otherwise it wouldn't be bash to deliver the error message |
| 22:45.09 | *** join/#debian abrotman (~abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman) |
| 22:45.11 | [Jasper] | su - is the same error yes |
| 22:45.33 | [Jasper] | http://www.pastebin.org/113587 |
| 22:45.46 | eix | [Jasper]: did you run stat as I said? |
| 22:45.50 | jhutchins_lt | Ok, why does stat list "Change" and "Modify"? |
| 22:45.51 | Sergio` | [Jasper]: I had the same problem a long time ago, if I remember right, the user had to be in the wheel group. |
| 22:45.56 | do0ob | hi |
| 22:46.20 | do0ob | how do i find out what type of encryption is used on an open encrypted hard drive? |
| 22:46.23 | [Jasper] | jhutchins_lt I have no idea what he did on the server...he has complete access over it...and asks if I couldhelp him |
| 22:46.27 | jhutchins_lt | Only root or members of the root group can execute it. |
| 22:46.30 | [Jasper] | he installed cpanel...that's all I know |
| 22:46.37 | *** join/#debian shdb (~shdb@217-162-231-62.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 22:46.40 | do0ob | its unlocked but i need to know what settings i used |
| 22:47.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 931] by debhelper |
| 22:47.05 | jhutchins_lt | [Jasper]: Do you have physical access to the machine? |
| 22:47.08 | tholmith | [Jasper], line 3 should be: Access: (4755/-rwsr-xr-x) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 0/ root) |
| 22:47.12 | [Jasper] | no not at the moment.. |
| 22:47.17 | [Jasper] | no way around that? |
| 22:47.30 | jhutchins_lt | Not on that machine. |
| 22:47.50 | [Jasper] | incredible this |
| 22:47.53 | [Jasper] | he had the server 1 day.. |
| 22:47.59 | *** join/#debian inimesekene (~inimeseke@15.229.190.90.dyn.estpak.ee) |
| 22:48.01 | babilen | !comfort [Jasper] |
| 22:48.02 | dpkg | There, there, [Jasper]. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 22:48.06 | do0ob | how do i find out if i used aes-cbc-essiv:sha256.? |
| 22:48.25 | eix | does it exist a tasksel selection for XFCE? |
| 22:48.38 | jhutchins_lt | [Jasper]: Bill for your time. |
| 22:48.38 | [Jasper] | hmm .... no way through cpanel? |
| 22:48.45 | [Jasper] | allthough cpanel doesn't even seem to be working.. |
| 22:48.46 | *** join/#debian apelgate (~apel@s83-191-241-142.cust.tele2.se) |
| 22:48.49 | babilen | eix: There are CD1 images that come with XFCE IIRC |
| 22:48.50 | do0ob | got it sudo cryptsetup status rt |
| 22:48.58 | [Jasper] | offcrouse jhutchins_lt |
| 22:49.04 | simonrvn | eix: 'xfce4' for the meta-package |
| 22:49.05 | [Jasper] | but I'm just amazed |
| 22:49.13 | jhutchins_lt | [Jasper]: Stupid user tricks. |
| 22:49.15 | eix | babilen: I am installing via aptitude, not via CD |
| 22:49.20 | jhutchins_lt | [Jasper]: #cpanel might be of help. |
| 22:49.26 | [Jasper] | I'll try that |
| 22:49.29 | [Jasper] | thanks guys |
| 22:49.32 | babilen | eix: Just install it then :) |
| 22:49.36 | simonrvn | cpanel isn't on-topic here |
| 22:49.41 | eix | simonrvn: thanks I tried xfce and it didn't work |
| 22:49.56 | simonrvn | it does things to the host os that aren't supportable |
| 22:50.23 | eix | cpanel is the worst thing ever invented after square wheels |
| 22:50.24 | [Jasper] | yes apparently |
| 22:50.33 | simonrvn | eix: / then type xfce |
| 22:50.36 | babilen | [Jasper]: Good luck - and let us now how you've solved it (if at all) |
| 22:50.37 | jhutchins_lt | Some would contend that webmin is worse. |
| 22:50.54 | simonrvn | eix: in the ui of course |
| 22:50.55 | eix | jhutchins_lt: I have no experience on that |
| 22:51.08 | eix | simonrvn: no UI yet, installing from command line |
| 22:51.12 | jhutchins_lt | dpkg has a specific warning against it. |
| 22:51.12 | dpkg | jhutchins_lt: wish i knew |
| 22:51.17 | jhutchins_lt | Sorry bot. |
| 22:51.36 | simonrvn | webmin is a step below cpanel, and cpanel is a step below pond scum |
| 22:51.47 | eix | mpfh. I don't like bots acting like humans. they are ridiculous |
| 22:51.52 | eix | and don't make their creators look smarter |
| 22:51.58 | simonrvn | pond scum serves a real purpose in life |
| 22:52.03 | eix | ahaha |
| 22:52.08 | tholmith | do0ob, used? when? |
| 22:52.24 | simonrvn | </imo> |
| 22:52.26 | *** join/#debian benwa-ktm_ (~benwa-ktm@91.180.220.72) |
| 22:52.39 | [Jasper] | babilen..if I boot in single user mode...I must be able to change it right? |
| 22:52.39 | *** join/#debian endri (~runa@2001:638:407:1e:201:4aff:fe06:4e98) |
| 22:52.46 | [Jasper] | just put ssh login for root bcak on |
| 22:52.49 | [Jasper] | and let him solve the rest.. |
| 22:52.51 | babilen | [Jasper]: I would think so :) |
| 22:52.58 | jhutchins_lt | simonrvn: Of course it does, it provides a market for Microsoft! |
| 22:53.03 | vegardx | I don't opening up my system as a prostitue to a web interface. |
| 22:53.10 | simonrvn | heh |
| 22:53.17 | babilen | [Jasper]: But is sounds as if he/you really want to get rid of cpanel :) |
| 22:53.24 | jhutchins_lt | [Jasper]: I would leave ssh login for root OFF, and fix the permissions on su. |
| 22:53.49 | eix | why should he enable ssh root login? |
| 22:53.51 | [Jasper] | well yeah..but I'm not gonna fix his problems :P |
| 22:53.52 | babilen | [Jasper]: But I actually think that you shouldn't allow that but rather install sudo or fix the permissions on /bin/su |
| 22:53.58 | eix | what if cpanel changed root password also? |
| 22:53.59 | endri | hello i have an old computer and i cant use the cdrom but i have grub already installed. is it possible to reinstall debian from a copy of the hardisk? |
| 22:54.08 | *** join/#debian Hans_Henrik (~chatzilla@ti0131a340-0813.bb.online.no) |
| 22:54.09 | vegardx | simonrvn: Ever uses scum to monitor Linux-based servers? Scum manages to terminate the connection before killing the program it started. Well hello 10k processes running! |
| 22:54.17 | babilen | eix: Is it doing that? |
| 22:54.20 | eix | endri: *on* the hard disk? |
| 22:54.32 | simonrvn | vegardx: EPARSE |
| 22:54.33 | eix | babilen: I guess no, but I wouldn't consider it totally impossible |
| 22:54.40 | *** join/#debian Internat (~nf@123-243-184-161.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 22:54.45 | *** join/#debian FreeTHX (~freethx@freethx.iutv.org) |
| 22:54.45 | vegardx | jhutchins_lt: denyhost > denying root ssh access |
| 22:54.48 | babilen | eix: *sigh* |
| 22:55.03 | endri | sorry: on the hardisk |
| 22:55.07 | eix | babilen: for example it clears crontabs periodically. and that is enough to become my enemy |
| 22:55.07 | abrotman | if my software were freely changing my password .. i'd probably stop using it |
| 22:55.28 | eix | endri: can you wire that computer to internet? |
| 22:55.42 | endri | yes |
| 22:56.01 | eix | endri: is there a recent linux already installed? |
| 22:56.10 | *** join/#debian Hans_Henrik (~chatzilla@ti0131a340-0813.bb.online.no) |
| 22:56.14 | sepult | sorry to interrup but how does one strip symbols when compiling with the debian gcc ? is it even possible ? |
| 22:56.15 | endri | yes a debian stable |
| 22:56.20 | eix | endri: excellent |
| 22:56.27 | eix | endri: then follow the procedure I am doing right now |
| 22:56.38 | eix | endri: it's called chroot installation or something like that |
| 22:56.43 | babilen | eix: Ok - I'm happy that I never had to fight that. I'll stay with other tools ... |
| 22:56.43 | *** join/#debian pipegeek (~pipegeek@61.sub-75-237-40.myvzw.com) |
| 22:57.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 924] by debhelper |
| 22:57.07 | *** join/#debian Malmis (malmis@cl-301.sto-01.se.sixxs.net) |
| 22:57.35 | simonrvn | sepult: `strip' |
| 22:57.37 | tholmith | eix, debootstrap not chroot installation ;) |
| 22:57.57 | simonrvn | or get install -s to do it |
| 22:58.16 | *** part/#debian dirkson (~dirkson@97-115-70-194.ptld.qwest.net) |
| 22:58.58 | *** join/#debian Sigur (~Sigur@94.38.7.29) |
| 22:59.15 | *** join/#debian endri (~runa@2001:638:407:1e:201:4aff:fe06:4e98) |
| 22:59.27 | endri | sorry eix i had a small problem |
| 22:59.36 | endri | please continue |
| 22:59.48 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:01.09 | *** join/#debian eix (~eix@host219-167-dynamic.56-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 23:01.21 | endri | does sb else know how to install debian from a copy of the cdrom on the hardisk |
| 23:01.23 | eix | endri: http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/i386/apds03.html.en |
| 23:01.34 | [Jasper] | omg I hate this.. |
| 23:01.38 | eix | endri: did you copy the files or made a ISO? |
| 23:02.37 | dutchfish | gn, bed time for me |
| 23:02.42 | endri | i have the install iso |
| 23:02.45 | eix | endri: the bootable CDROM can be used only by..BOOTING it. e.g. in real-mode. have a reading about real-mode versus protected mode, that might help |
| 23:02.46 | *** join/#debian Chris7mas (~embryo@188.25.30.25) |
| 23:02.55 | eix | endri: so now you should use debootstrap |
| 23:03.03 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@217.28.0.43) |
| 23:03.04 | eix | you can take advantage of the ISO by mounting it |
| 23:03.08 | *** join/#debian comradekingu1 (~comradeki@82.194.222.8) |
| 23:03.09 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@unaffiliated/mentor) |
| 23:03.17 | eix | and providing the mountpoint to debootstrap so that it will fetch archives from there |
| 23:03.29 | eix | but you definitively need to use debootstrap to make this work |
| 23:03.50 | endri | eix so i have to create a new partition? |
| 23:04.09 | eix | endri: question is: where do you want linux to be? |
| 23:04.18 | eix | s/linux/new debian/ |
| 23:05.02 | endri | i have 3 partitions at the moment one where / is mounted the swap and the home partition |
| 23:05.33 | eix | endri: you didn't answer my question |
| 23:06.33 | [Jasper] | why do people rent servers...if they don't know how to control them.. |
| 23:06.33 | endri | i want to reinstall it on the root partition / |
| 23:06.42 | endri | /dev/hda1 |
| 23:06.50 | *** join/#debian SimManiac (~kvirc@152.Red-88-2-254.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 23:06.56 | *** join/#debian mino (~mino@p5B33C9A1.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 23:07.02 | endri | maybe i do not understand your question |
| 23:07.44 | *** join/#debian linuxwizard_ (~linuxwiza@c-98-193-113-147.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 23:07.46 | SimManiac | hi |
| 23:07.56 | *** join/#debian hokapoka (~andrew@hoka.hokapoka.com) |
| 23:07.59 | eix | endri: no problem, I will reformulate it :) |
| 23:08.23 | eix | endri: do you want to keep the old linux and put the new debian in separate partitions or wipe the old linux and replace it? |
| 23:08.27 | eix | you haven't specified this yet |
| 23:08.40 | endri | i want to wipe it and replace it |
| 23:09.11 | *** join/#debian TMinus36 (~serverz@pdpc/supporter/student/tminus36) |
| 23:09.13 | eix | endri: ok great. we will do it at the end when the new system is ready |
| 23:09.38 | eix | endri: have you given a look to the manual chapter of the URL I gave you? |
| 23:10.08 | endri | yes i gave a look |
| 23:10.24 | endri | but it says to create a new partition or not? |
| 23:10.36 | eix | endri: you'll need to create a directory, mount some special directories, debootstrap the system in it and install/configure the packages |
| 23:10.41 | eix | endri: nope it's not necessary |
| 23:10.58 | *** join/#debian kephu (~Keph@chello089075145027.chello.pl) |
| 23:11.01 | kephu | Hi |
| 23:11.02 | endri | ok |
| 23:11.29 | kephu | I have a question: how do I verify which version of Debian I'm running? I mean, beyond all doubt, if possible? |
| 23:11.40 | [Jasper] | hej guys, what's the default preinstalled webbrowser |
| 23:11.41 | [Jasper] | with debian? |
| 23:11.43 | [Jasper] | lynx right? |
| 23:11.49 | rvsjoen | kephu: cat /etc/debian_version ? |
| 23:11.59 | petemc | kephu: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1 |
| 23:12.00 | eix | mumble mumble..where is kernel-img.conf? |
| 23:12.07 | themill | [Jasper]: there is no default preinstalled web browser. |
| 23:12.41 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@c-76-121-43-48.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 23:12.45 | neoice | so in sid, /etc/init.d/networking doesnt work anymore?? whats the new method? |
| 23:13.20 | kephu | see, I'm getting conflicting results. What rvsjoen said gives me "squeeze/sid", and petemc's version gives me "2.7-18lenny2" |
| 23:13.21 | eix | I gues the guide needs updating |
| 23:13.46 | kephu | so, which one is it? |
| 23:14.20 | adb | !mixed |
| 23:15.15 | vegardx | kephu: SID/Squeeze is based upon lenny, so that might be why. |
| 23:15.32 | eix | what login manager do you suggest me for XFCE? |
| 23:15.51 | adb | xdm |
| 23:15.52 | eix | I mean, is using GDM straigh-forward? |
| 23:15.54 | kephu | so, should I bother the resident admin that I wanted Lenny and got Sid, or is it same difference? |
| 23:16.09 | eix | adb: i think that would be not very user friendly |
| 23:16.16 | *** join/#debian Anubisss (Anubisss@ip-167-214-userpool.zeg.zelkanet.hu) |
| 23:16.27 | Rienzilla | sid is unstable |
| 23:16.48 | vegardx | kephu: Yeah, you should not be running sid/squeeze if you are not intending to test out something. |
| 23:16.49 | Rienzilla | if you have no compelling reason to run it, I'd suggest you go bug the admin :)) |
| 23:17.02 | *** join/#debian yogurt2ungue (~yogurt2un@190.139.40.183) |
| 23:17.04 | *** join/#debian Hans_Henrik (~chatzilla@ti0131a340-0813.bb.online.no) |
| 23:17.07 | *** join/#debian Pudgy (~pudgy@a82-93-179-135.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 23:17.21 | kephu | yeah, I shall do that, Rienzilla. I kinda wanted to make sure to include all the INCRIMINATING EVIDENCE ;) |
| 23:17.49 | endri | eix so i am doing debootstrap --arch i386 squeeze deboot http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian |
| 23:17.53 | Rienzilla | :) |
| 23:17.57 | endri | is that right? |
| 23:18.08 | eix | endri: if deboot is the directory name, yes |
| 23:18.20 | *** join/#debian icebrain (~icebrain@co3-84-90-132-86.netvisao.pt) |
| 23:19.26 | kephu | so, anything else I can do to confirm? |
| 23:19.44 | adb | eix, see #Install a Kernel for kernel-img.conf .. |
| 23:19.44 | adb | eix, startx is better ; |
| 23:19.50 | Rienzilla | look in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:20.01 | kephu | Rienzilla, those tell me 'lenny' |
| 23:20.03 | eix | adb: I am setting this up for an average user |
| 23:20.11 | Rienzilla | hmmm |
| 23:20.49 | Rienzilla | curious |
| 23:21.13 | kephu | indeed! |
| 23:21.22 | *** join/#debian p3rror (~Ali@anonymous-196-206-105-71.broker.freenet6.net) |
| 23:22.15 | adb | eix, exactly ;) |
| 23:22.22 | endri | eix then should i do the entire "D.3.4. Configure The Base System" in the guide? |
| 23:22.28 | eix | endri: yep |
| 23:22.33 | eix | endri: and don't skip anything! |
| 23:22.39 | eix | endri: if you have doubts, just ask |
| 23:22.46 | eix | endri: I have just installed it this way and it works |
| 23:23.09 | *** join/#debian inimesekene (~inimeseke@15.229.190.90.dyn.estpak.ee) |
| 23:24.29 | eix | where is sysvconfig? in which package? |
| 23:24.43 | adb | apt-cache search |
| 23:25.17 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:25.18 | eix | adb: it doesn't exist |
| 23:25.24 | eix | adb: it exists in lenny |
| 23:25.26 | eix | but not in squeeze |
| 23:26.01 | *** join/#debian inimesekene (~inimeseke@15.229.190.90.dyn.estpak.ee) |
| 23:26.37 | *** join/#debian ashledombos (~quassel@mandriva/forum/ashledombos) |
| 23:26.52 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:27.11 | endri | eix can you help me with section 3.4.1 : create device files |
| 23:27.43 | endri | should i do smth like mount -t /dev deboot/dev? |
| 23:27.56 | eix | endri: yes. exit the chroot and run these commands: mount --bind /dev/ deboot/dev; mount -t sysfs none deboot/sys; mount -t proc none deboot/proc |
| 23:28.04 | *** join/#debian Hans_Henrik (~chatzilla@ti0131a340-0813.bb.online.no) |
| 23:28.08 | eix | endri: yes, or those I typed |
| 23:29.08 | *** join/#debian tempe (~tempe@203.82.94.110) |
| 23:29.14 | endri | should i edit the fstab or just copy the one i have? |
| 23:29.31 | eix | endri: you can copy it |
| 23:29.45 | tempe | hello everyone, i want to ask, how to install mpich, do you all know any good tutorial to guide me? |
| 23:30.35 | sepult | is it possible to have opengl programs get compiled and run without the fglrx-drivers on ati cards ? |
| 23:30.41 | eix | gee..sysvconfig is no more supported :( |
| 23:31.19 | *** join/#debian MrFahrenheit (~RageOfTho@users-55-240.vinet.ba) |
| 23:31.38 | *** join/#debian Shaytan (~eric@c-13bfe355.025-19-73746f29.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 23:32.42 | *** join/#debian Tommy_DO (~asdf@i59F5CCAD.versanet.de) |
| 23:33.04 | endri | i dont think i have to configure the networking because i have a lan with dhcp request... |
| 23:33.40 | adb | tempe, apt-cache search mpich | apt-cache search openmpi |
| 23:33.41 | endri | and should i copy the current source.list ? |
| 23:33.54 | tempe | tq adb |
| 23:33.57 | eix | endri: copy the interfaces file proposed there and uncomment the dhcp stanza |
| 23:33.57 | *** join/#debian zink (~zink@pc-121-227-100-190.cm.vtr.net) |
| 23:34.06 | eix | endri: yes copy the source.list |
| 23:34.10 | eix | but don't skip anything |
| 23:35.11 | *** join/#debian lipsin (~lipsin@unaffiliated/lipsin) |
| 23:35.21 | *** join/#debian veebull_ (~veebull@66.172.107.27) |
| 23:36.40 | *** join/#debian Sashi (~Sashi@S0106002401f32e19.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 23:38.45 | endri | eix can you help me with :"If you intend to use a pre-packaged kernel, you may want to create the configuration file /etc/kernel-img.conf before you do so. " |
| 23:39.00 | endri | i do not really understand... |
| 23:39.42 | eix | endri: it's OK, that file doesn't exist |
| 23:39.52 | eix | endri: ignore kernel-img.conf because it is automatic now |
| 23:39.56 | eix | endri: they need to update the guide |
| 23:40.07 | eix | endri: just install the linux-image-2.6.32* package |
| 23:41.22 | *** join/#debian Jax (~cptjack@5e0a7b1d.bb.sky.com) |
| 23:43.10 | *** join/#debian Hans_Henrik (~chatzilla@ti0131a340-0813.bb.online.no) |
| 23:43.18 | *** part/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@141-189-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 23:44.07 | *** join/#debian ruoso (~ruoso@201009017035.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 23:44.19 | *** join/#debian mirror_man (~cue@cust241-dsl91-135-5.idnet.net) |
| 23:45.10 | eix | how can I enable lenny-backports? |
| 23:45.21 | *** join/#debian shingouz (shingouz@85-156-8-170.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 23:45.53 | *** join/#debian xispirito (~xispirito@201.66.224.18) |
| 23:45.59 | adb | !tell eix -about lenny-backports |
| 23:46.35 | eix | !tell adb -about outdated wiki |
| 23:46.53 | *** join/#debian Pikratos (~casosac@190.232.29.125) |
| 23:47.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 914] by debhelper |
| 23:47.19 | *** join/#debian LinuxMercedes (~LinuxMerc@131.151.181.166) |
| 23:49.01 | themill | eix: where in that "lenny-backports" factoid does it mention the wiki? And wikis are there for you to improve -- have you done so? |
| 23:49.26 | eix | themill: cool down dude |
| 23:49.49 | mirror_man | Hi, running debian squeeze and for the last few days aptitude safe-upgrade is giving me this message about unmet dependencies: http://paste.debian.net/64415/ Anyone else seeing this and know what to do about it? Thanks. |
| 23:50.13 | abrotman | can't you just say 'y' ? |
| 23:51.23 | mirror_man | abrotman: There is nothing else, no yes or no to choose. |
| 23:51.25 | endri | eix did it |
| 23:51.35 | endri | should i install a window manager? |
| 23:51.48 | eix | endri: I'd suggest xfce4 meta-package |
| 23:52.00 | endri | is it better then lxde? |
| 23:52.24 | *** join/#debian Pikratos (~casosac@190.232.29.125) |
| 23:52.31 | endri | how am i going to install then to hda1 in the end? |
| 23:52.36 | *** join/#debian r3r3 (~r3r3@217-162-37-246.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 23:53.09 | endri | i mean now i created a copy of a working minimal system on a directory on my home ... |
| 23:53.29 | eix | endri: lxde is a bad rip of xfce |
| 23:53.42 | eix | have you finished installing packages et al? |
| 23:54.04 | endri | i am doing the tasksel |
| 23:54.07 | abrotman | mirror_man: a full-upgrade ? |
| 23:54.12 | eix | endri: I strongly suggest that you are sure that all necessary packages are in place before swapping this root with the original one |
| 23:54.13 | eix | ok |
| 23:54.44 | *** join/#debian truc1 (~truc@did75-1-81-57-83-151.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 23:54.47 | mirror_man | abrotman: I'll try it. |
| 23:55.08 | eix | endri: when you are finished you should switch to initlevel 1 and then move all directories to a backup place |
| 23:55.18 | eix | endri: and put the current chroot directories to the real root |
| 23:55.45 | endri | eix the taksel seems freezing |
| 23:55.52 | eix | endri: it's just slow |
| 23:56.58 | eix | what groups should my user be part of? |
| 23:57.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 908] by debhelper |
| 23:57.38 | *** join/#debian Amorphous (jan@unaffiliated/amorphous) |
| 23:59.37 | *** part/#debian veebull_ (~veebull@66.172.107.27) |