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| 04:19.42 | PyroPhelia | hears cricket sounds |
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| 04:20.26 | Bohemian | hi PyroPhelia |
| 04:20.28 | Bohemian | :) |
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| 04:21.46 | pinoyoragon | I still can't make progress on this error "Error adding user X to LDAP" after issuing "sudo ldapadduser". Anyone? |
| 04:22.53 | DogBoy | I still get a kick out of it when people think they can just ask about an error message |
| 04:23.29 | PyroPhelia | :P |
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| 04:23.46 | DogBoy | reminds me of an ex girl friend |
| 04:24.02 | DogBoy | "if you're the right one for me you'll just know what I need" |
| 04:24.12 | DogBoy | context PyroPhelia |
| 04:26.03 | PyroPhelia | actually I was doing a bit of research and it seems mdadm performs best with a 1024k chunk regardless of raid algorithim. |
| 04:26.19 | PyroPhelia | for sequential write/reads that is. |
| 04:26.24 | pinoyoragon | /var/log/ldapscripts.log displays "No such object (32)" |
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| 04:27.12 | PyroPhelia | I know this is off topic, but does anybody know what raid software apple uses for their software raid? is it a fork of mdadm or something in house? |
| 04:27.46 | PyroPhelia | or something all together different as in some radical evolution from nextstep |
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| 04:28.54 | ktrav | Hello, I've recently installed debian after I grew tired of compiling things in Gentoo. Everything went smoothly except for my internal microphone. Ive tried playing with the ALSA settings a bit, but nothing I do seems to work and my tests frequently crash programs. Ubuntu/Gentoo both support my mic fine with alsa built |
| 04:29.51 | ktrav | If you guys would provide assistance that would be much appriciated, just lemme know if you need any system info |
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| 04:31.57 | wols_ | PyroPhelia: most likely the FreeBSD software RAID |
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| 04:41.55 | FullPolarFox1981 | I forget. What I need to tape to register my room. I closed the window |
| 04:43.03 | FullPolarFox1981 | Nobody knows? |
| 04:43.25 | FullPolarFox1981 | I was thinkig gere are only a smart people... |
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| 04:49.35 | joshteam | what's the apt-get package for php client? I thought it was php5-client? |
| 04:51.59 | pinoyoragon | I tried to edit the ldapscripts.conf and the default is UHOMES="/home/%u". I wanted to insert the group name so I tried "/home/%g/%u" but then it literally puts "%g" in the homeDirectory. Anyone? |
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| 05:14.23 | morgan-r | So I'm trying to install on an Intel Mac Mini. It works fine, except that it won't boot after the installation. All I get is the little folder icon with the blinking folder. What am I missing? |
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| 05:19.53 | karter | how do I enable ssh access for a user? |
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| 05:20.13 | schmack | how can i rerun network setup menu? |
| 05:20.33 | schmack | for eth0 eth1 etc. domain/host etc. ? |
| 05:20.43 | schmack | on installed version... |
| 05:21.05 | karter | anyone ? |
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| 05:25.35 | ktrav | s |
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| 05:31.41 | aculich | does anyone here have a copy of iwlwifi-6000-2.ucode |
| 05:31.42 | aculich | ? |
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| 05:33.16 | schmack | how can i rerun network setup menu for eth0 eth1 etc. domain/host etc. on installed version... |
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| 05:34.26 | adb | schmack, man interfaces |
| 05:36.44 | schmack | adb: thank u :))))) |
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| 05:36.47 | schmack | brb |
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| 05:40.08 | rgr | thats one of the best "works fine" descriptions I ever saw. |
| 05:40.34 | tongueroo | anyone know how linux prompts to install software and then starts a timer, and if the timer runs down to zero, it will just use the default value and continue with installing packages.. |
| 05:40.54 | rgr | tongueroo: no such thing. totally distro specific. |
| 05:41.09 | tongueroo | is it usually done with bash? |
| 05:41.18 | rgr | tongueroo: no such thing. totally distro specific. |
| 05:41.23 | Kamping_Kaiser | never seen it |
| 05:41.55 | rgr | Kamping_Kaiser: |
| 05:41.58 | eryn_1983 | hey peeps need some help with kerberos please http://pastebin.ca/1845441 |
| 05:42.11 | rgr | karter: you man ssh and you install openssh server on the server you want access too |
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| 05:46.15 | ktrav | If anyone feels like helping, Im having issues with my mic in debian lenny; http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=50337&p=28939 has more details |
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| 05:55.18 | eryn_1983 | no idease? |
| 05:55.22 | eryn_1983 | ideas |
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| 06:01.13 | jetole | does anyone know where the machines domain name is stored? |
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| 06:04.07 | jetole | nevermind, it's stored in /etc/hosts |
| 06:04.16 | Vmanz | yea. |
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| 06:06.51 | jetole | does anyone know why the preseed install would ignore the domain name when specified either on syslinux startup or in the preseed file |
| 06:06.59 | jetole | after all my installs, the domain name is local |
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| 06:11.31 | eryn_1983 | obiwan your my only hope! |
| 06:12.22 | eryn_1983 | ] no ideas peeps ? http://pastebin.ca/1845441 |
| 06:12.35 | WormFood | is there any place in the GUI (in squeeze) to set my sound card's input to an output (the hardware is capable of it), or do I have to edit regular config file (I remember doing that in the past) |
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| 06:14.07 | WormFood | eryn_1983, I can't even connect to the page to take a look |
| 06:14.25 | eryn_1983 | why not |
| 06:14.29 | eryn_1983 | its pastebin.ca |
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| 06:14.56 | eryn_1983 | http://pastebin.com/AXmnzMtB |
| 06:14.58 | eryn_1983 | try that one |
| 06:15.18 | WormFood | no clue, it just times out for me |
| 06:15.29 | eryn_1983 | both? |
| 06:15.45 | WormFood | it is not blocked (I'm in China, when the block a domain name, they screw with the DNS query) |
| 06:15.53 | WormFood | no, I can see the pastebin.com one |
| 06:15.58 | eryn_1983 | ok |
| 06:16.38 | Vmanz | WormFood, if thats true couldnt you use a different DNS server. |
| 06:16.47 | WormFood | duh |
| 06:16.48 | WormFood | no |
| 06:16.54 | Vmanz | an get passed the great firewall of china. |
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| 06:17.13 | WormFood | do you really think the gooberment is so dumb, to do all the blocking in local dns servers? |
| 06:17.30 | WormFood | the inspect the DNS response, and change it if you go to a banned site |
| 06:17.30 | Vmanz | yes. |
| 06:17.44 | Vmanz | you could just use a SSH tunnel based in the US |
| 06:17.45 | Vmanz | :) |
| 06:17.46 | WormFood | they also inspect the http headers, so if you add it to your hosts file, it is still blocked |
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| 06:17.55 | WormFood | screw ssh tunnel...I use openvpn :P |
| 06:17.59 | Vmanz | or that. |
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| 06:18.07 | WormFood | ssh uses tcp, and tcp over tcp is bad |
| 06:18.07 | Vmanz | see the gooberment is n00b |
| 06:18.14 | WormFood | no, they do a good job |
| 06:18.23 | eryn_1983 | lol |
| 06:18.24 | Vmanz | u think filtering porn is good ? |
| 06:18.25 | Vmanz | :P |
| 06:18.26 | eryn_1983 | are they hirng ? |
| 06:18.34 | brbrbr | x25 over over VPN over udp is good ? |
| 06:18.34 | eryn_1983 | maybe they will hire me :) |
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| 06:18.49 | jetole | WormFood: tcp over udp is better then tcp over tcp? wtf? |
| 06:18.55 | WormFood | when xkcd did a tribute to geocities shutting down, they changed the xkcd page to look like a typical geocities page, and I could view the first page, but any links from it was blocked.... |
| 06:18.58 | jetole | it's tunneling |
| 06:19.00 | jetole | EOF |
| 06:19.10 | WormFood | not that simple jetole |
| 06:19.14 | Vmanz | china boy fails. |
| 06:19.15 | Vmanz | leave him be |
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| 06:19.18 | Vmanz | he will provly hax u |
| 06:19.21 | Vmanz | with his OPeNvpn |
| 06:19.25 | jetole | yes that simple and consequently openvpn supports tcp |
| 06:19.27 | eryn_1983 | well i guess i am stuck tonight again |
| 06:19.27 | WormFood | I'm not chinese |
| 06:19.30 | WormFood | I'm american |
| 06:19.33 | eryn_1983 | i'll just go read tuck ro semthing |
| 06:19.37 | eryn_1983 | or |
| 06:19.57 | WormFood | I can tell if they block by IP or host name....they do a good job of blocking stuff overall |
| 06:19.57 | eryn_1983 | so much for gettng this done i knew its gonna take some time off from work to get it going agan :( this time i am writng it down |
| 06:20.11 | WormFood | good luck with it eryn_1983 |
| 06:20.11 | jetole | WormFood: can you explain why tcp over tcp is bad and how tcp over udp breaks that "bad" karma? |
| 06:20.30 | WormFood | jetole, hold on, I'll find the web page that explains it rather well |
| 06:20.48 | WormFood | in short, tcp over tcp will get slower and slower, and stall most of the time |
| 06:20.56 | jetole | heh |
| 06:20.57 | WormFood | where udp you have complete control over it |
| 06:21.06 | Vmanz | LOL |
| 06:21.10 | Vmanz | UDP ftw. |
| 06:21.19 | Vmanz | udp just fires an hopes for the best. |
| 06:21.27 | WormFood | no |
| 06:21.43 | jetole | udp has no session control where with tcp you do and hence you it's possible that you will have a retransmission inside another retransmission however because of the session control in tcp there should be no need for it to occur inside a tcp tunnel |
| 06:21.45 | WormFood | udp is user datagram protocol....any error control is up to the software |
| 06:21.55 | WormFood | right jetole |
| 06:22.09 | WormFood | each layer of the tcp, will add a delay |
| 06:22.11 | brbrbr | how about SSTP vs "plain" UDP ? :) |
| 06:22.27 | WormFood | not sure of the technical details of SSTP |
| 06:22.30 | jetole | WormFood: but because the tunnel itself has transmission control, it should ensure that the tcp inside the tunnel shant need it |
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| 06:22.50 | WormFood | that is one idea, but it just does not work that way in the real world |
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| 06:22.58 | brbrbr | sure. applications will do checks better and with less overhead. inside. p.s. if their developer not jerk. which is happen from time to tome |
| 06:23.10 | WormFood | yes, I suppose you could twiddle the packets to change the inside tcp packet delay |
| 06:23.29 | jetole | I use openvpn myself for several connections including all our office road warriors I setup as well as an interoffice link and a office to data center link and we use udp but I have used ssh tunnels that have survived weeks in the past |
| 06:24.20 | Cain | Hi, when rebooting i have errors on filesystem check /var/log/fsck/checkfs ==> http://paste.debian.net/64811/ and i can't see one of the External HDDs (lsusb can't detect it) |
| 06:24.31 | WormFood | http://sites.inka.de/~W1011/devel/tcp-tcp.html Why TCP Over TCP Is A Bad Idea |
| 06:24.43 | jetole | reads |
| 06:25.45 | WormFood | Cain, is this after the system is booted? |
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| 06:26.15 | Cain | WormFood : yes i had to CTRL+D to let the system continue booting |
| 06:26.19 | WormFood | I mean, completely booted, or is that part of the bootup? |
| 06:26.28 | WormFood | oh...what is your clock set to? |
| 06:26.37 | WormFood | hardware clock is set to local time or utc? |
| 06:26.44 | Cain | hades:/home/cain# date |
| 06:26.44 | Cain | Fri Mar 19 06:26:35 WET 2010 |
| 06:26.47 | Cain | utc |
| 06:26.59 | WormFood | what is WET? |
| 06:27.03 | WormFood | that is a new one on me |
| 06:27.11 | Cain | Western Europe time i guess |
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| 06:27.30 | WormFood | don't matter....relationship to utc? I'm utc+8 |
| 06:27.37 | Cain | ^^ |
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| 06:28.14 | WormFood | I have my hardware clock set to UTC, but for some stupid reason debian decided it was set to local time....EVERY FUCKIN' TIME I rebooted, it would spent 20-30 minutes to fsck the filesystems |
| 06:28.17 | Cain | so back to my fear... am i able to get back my datas from /dev/sdb ? (730 GB...) |
| 06:28.31 | Cain | how to repair ? |
| 06:28.42 | WormFood | it would tell me, my superblock was in the future |
| 06:28.52 | WormFood | I'm wondering if you're having the same problem there |
| 06:29.22 | WormFood | double check to make sure debian thinks the hardware clock is utc |
| 06:29.34 | WormFood | about your hard drive...try different USB ports |
| 06:29.49 | WormFood | I know my front panel usb ports won't handle a hard drive, but the ones on the back work well |
| 06:30.45 | Cain | i don't think so, after a /etc/init.d/networking restart i was unable to connect through ssh so i clicked the on/off button (over 3 sec) (i shouldn't :'() |
| 06:32.05 | WormFood | what on/off button? |
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| 06:33.34 | jetole | WormFood: The author does not understand how TCP timing works. If the tunnel itself begins to enter a retransmission period then so will the data within the tunnel however the data within the tunnel will stall at the same rate as the tunnel or perhaps more since this includes the data in the tunnel as well as the tcp overhead of the tunnel itself but this only presents problems when more data is being sent then the physical link can handle since once it ... |
| 06:33.40 | jetole | ... opens up the tunnel itself will adaptively send the data based on how tcp works and shortly thereafter, the data within the tunnel will also be allowed to decongest but because of how tcp works, neither the tunnel nor the data within the tunnel or the combination of the two will lead to a endless stacking affect because tcp will slow it's retransmission on both connections when it sees that it cannot send at the expected rate |
| 06:33.43 | Cain | WormFood : the one which switch on the computer/server |
| 06:33.54 | jetole | WormFood: Look at ipsec, it has been a long active method of ip over ip encapsulation |
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| 06:34.54 | jetole | I used to run an ipsec tunnel from our data center in atlanta to our data center in miami and within this tunnel was two high use sql servers performing database mirroring |
| 06:35.52 | WormFood | the tcpv4 protocol was not designed with the idea of encapsulating more tcp traffic, where ipsec was |
| 06:36.24 | jetole | now in the case of vpn I prefer tcp over udp vs. tcp over tcp but there are many protcols that have worked and worked well for a long time without leading to the meltdown scenario |
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| 06:36.39 | jetole | WormFood: ipsec uses tcp |
| 06:36.47 | jetole | and encapsulates all ip protocols |
| 06:37.37 | jetole | tcp4 was designed to carry data |
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| 06:37.51 | jetole | it does not need to know or care that it's more tcp that is in the data it's carrying |
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| 06:38.11 | jetole | I would seriously like to analyze the scenario the author speaks of |
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| 06:38.58 | jetole | the only time you will see a hint of what he has described is as the tcp protocols inside a tcp tunnel adapt to the fact they are carrying more data then a pipe can physically handle |
| 06:39.43 | jetole | they will change their retransmission times though to go below what is acceptable because they are inside a tunnel so because of the tunnel overhead they will think they need to drop less then they do |
| 06:39.54 | jetole | and at the point the tunnel will be able to decongest itself |
| 06:41.08 | jetole | Also he mentioned ppp over ssh which I am a little skeptical about myself. |
| 06:41.33 | jetole | http://tldp.org/HOWTO/ppp-ssh/index.html |
| 06:41.47 | jetole | ha |
| 06:42.04 | jetole | WormFood: look at the first sentence of 2.2 on the ppp-ssh aritcle I just posted |
| 06:42.23 | jetole | This type of VPN is not without a few difficulties. Basically, it doesn't run unattended very well. If you're looking for a production-quality VPN that you can set up and forget about, you will proabably find PPP-SSH a little disappointing |
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| 06:43.28 | jetole | so far the whole 2.2 section of ppp over ssh is describing the problems he had |
| 06:44.03 | WormFood | thanks jetole, I'll look at it later...I didn't even get 3 hours of sleep last night. |
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| 06:44.28 | WormFood | and, i do need a vpn that is setup and forget about it |
| 06:44.41 | jetole | ok, well read 2.2 of that link I posted. I just finished it and the whole thing seems to describe why the previous author chalked it to tcp over tcp |
| 06:44.45 | dbbolton | how can i find out the width/height of an image from the command line? |
| 06:44.57 | jetole | 2.2 is PPP-SSH Drawbacks |
| 06:45.03 | WormFood | ok, I got the page loaded. |
| 06:45.07 | WormFood | will read it later |
| 06:45.14 | jetole | Cool |
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| 06:46.04 | jetole | Also PPTP (although I had a lot of my own issues with that) is another tcp over tcp vpn |
| 06:46.29 | WormFood | I've found tcp over udp to be exceptionally reliable |
| 06:47.13 | jetole | Well I have found openvpn to be exceptionally reliable however it offers tcp which I haven't tried yet. I did find ipsec to be reliable |
| 06:47.19 | eryn_1983 | hi peeps |
| 06:48.03 | jetole | I have my own issues at the moment, dealing with preseeding which I think I am about done with but now I have to look into puppet |
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| 06:48.25 | jetole | puppet is cool but I have only ever played with it in the lab on a couple pc's |
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| 06:51.45 | schmack | why psad dosen't start on system |
| 06:51.49 | schmack | boot |
| 06:52.30 | jetole | because it doesn't like you |
| 06:52.35 | jetole | just kidding |
| 06:52.51 | jetole | I don't have it running here but look at /etc/defaults/psad |
| 06:53.07 | jetole | and make sure it's enabled in the /etc/rc trees |
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| 06:54.14 | schmack | i know i don't have /etc/default/psad |
| 06:54.16 | schmack | :) |
| 06:54.25 | schmack | :) |
| 06:55.13 | jetole | if there is a file for it in /etc/init.d then read it |
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| 06:56.43 | schmack | i'm doing that now |
| 06:57.18 | jetole | I'm going to bed |
| 06:57.55 | schmack | ok |
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| 07:16.17 | Cain | the boot shows : filesystem is clean but i still have fsck exit status 8 ==> http://paste.debian.net/64814/ any idea ? |
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| 07:19.02 | bbd | Cain: did you try to run fsck manually? |
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| 07:19.37 | Cain | bbd yes on /dev/hda6 & /dev/hdd1 but not on /hda1 (root partition) |
| 07:20.18 | Cain | bbd : how to run it manually on root partition (since fsck need the partition to be unmounted or at least readonly) |
| 07:20.18 | bbd | Cain: can you boot from other media like cd, usb stick etc? |
| 07:20.23 | Cain | yes |
| 07:21.23 | bbd | Cain: i'd mount hda1 readonly, force fsck repair, sync and then reset machine. no the best but lazy way instead of booting from other media |
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| 07:22.30 | Cain | bbd : i'll do it if you show me how :), how to mount hda1 readonly ? |
| 07:22.43 | bbd | Cain: mount / -o remount,ro |
| 07:23.12 | Cain | mount: / is busy |
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| 07:23.39 | Swat- | Morning, anyone here using debian and dell KVM console? |
| 07:23.43 | bbd | Cain: you should be in single user mode. try to execute init 1 |
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| 07:24.25 | Cain | bbd : okey rebooting the system |
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| 07:27.00 | Cain | bbd : fsck -y /dev/hda1 shows no corruptions found |
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| 07:30.12 | bbd | Cain: try to run fsck for all partitions you're mounting on boot (listed in /etc/fstab) |
| 07:30.35 | Cain | bbd : just fsck without arguments ? |
| 07:30.56 | bbd | Cain: yes |
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| 07:35.28 | Cain | bbd : done, no success, the same error (fsck died with exit status 8) |
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| 07:36.15 | bbd | Cain: do you have anything interesting in /var/log/fsck/checkfs ? |
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| 07:39.58 | Cain | bbd : the same thing ==> http://pastebin.com/sxsLNrxK |
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| 07:40.53 | Swat- | does anyone here still use blackdown java? |
| 07:40.54 | bbd | Cain: i suggest you remove non existing devices from fstab such as sdb1, sda1 or unset fsck flag for them |
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| 07:41.39 | Cain | bbd : ok, rebooting |
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| 07:44.18 | Cain | bbd : no exit status 8 now ^^, i'll try to plug the USB-HDDs one by one now |
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| 07:45.48 | bbd | Cain: if sda1/sdb1 are your removable devices then leave them in fstab but set the last sixth value to 0 for these devices |
| 07:46.25 | Cain | bbd : ok, it was set to 2 |
| 07:46.43 | bbd | Cain: that's your problem ;) |
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| 07:47.03 | cast | are they always going to be sdb and sda if they're removable? |
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| 07:47.43 | bbd | definitely not. you should use UUID of that device instead |
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| 07:48.04 | Cain | bbd : i have also /dev/hda6 (/home) set to 2 should i turn it to 1 ? (this last number is to tell the system when to check the filesystem ?)à |
| 07:48.41 | bbd | Cain: this is order. root should be 1, others can be 2. non present should be 0 |
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| 07:51.11 | mx | anyone uses OVH? |
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| 07:53.57 | PepperBob | hey all! |
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| 07:54.19 | PepperBob | hey all! |
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| 07:54.28 | Cain | bbd : the 2 removable devices plugged, everything works just fine ^^, thx for saving 730 GB :D |
| 07:54.41 | Cain | mx : what about ovh ? |
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| 07:55.57 | PepperBob | is there a way to make changes to /boot/grub/menu.lst persistent? in some v servers we have to manually change kernel options every time we received a kernel update and menu.lst is entirely rebuild. |
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| 08:02.32 | PepperBob | aww... just see that there are defaut kernel options.. alright. that should solve it :P |
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| 08:07.55 | pierreghz | hello guys |
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| 08:12.25 | dgeary2 | how does one get libdvdcss to change keys with a multi-key dvd in debian etch? |
| 08:13.17 | dgeary2 | okay, belay that... probably a transient error... |
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| 08:14.32 | dgeary2 | i like it when things just work... |
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| 08:26.13 | Moorea | Hi guys , how to change my screen display settings , the screen promps at boot the following " resolution out of range ! change the settings to 1440*900 60hz" |
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| 08:28.15 | dz2 | which pacjka |
| 08:28.24 | dz2 | sorry |
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| 08:28.53 | dz2 | which package contains the codecs to play flv files? |
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| 08:46.08 | gh0st | who are using psad? |
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| 08:46.57 | rubin110 | Hi there, I just installed Squeeze, I'm a little confused as to what I need to change in my sources.list in order to progress to Sid. Any help would be appreciated. |
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| 08:48.40 | Pierreb | is it possible for a perl script to install .rpm files in debian? |
| 08:48.49 | Pierreb | or does it require alien to make it work? |
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| 08:49.36 | Pierreb | cause my admin say i should run the install script and it refuse to complete as its .rpm files... |
| 08:50.01 | rubin110 | Pierreb: I think the solution would be a bottle of whiskey. |
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| 08:53.35 | Pierreb | rubin110: perhaps but that does not solve my problem |
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| 09:02.07 | k-man | is there a debian installer netinst for usb key somewhere? |
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| 09:02.56 | k-man | actually, where do i read up on setting up a usb key for installing? |
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| 09:03.33 | liable | the installation guide |
| 09:03.35 | liable | !ig |
| 09:03.36 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0.4) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual . See also <errata> and <installer firmware>. |
| 09:03.51 | rubin110 | k-man: It's a little convoluted. |
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| 09:03.59 | rubin110 | k-man: What OS are you on currently? |
| 09:04.23 | k-man | rubin110: mac osx |
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| 09:04.47 | rubin110 | k-man: I have been totally unsuccessful at creating a installer usb thumb drive off of a mac. |
| 09:04.49 | k-man | rubin110: my linux box died so no linux currently, and the box i got to replace it turns out has a broken cdrom drive |
| 09:05.05 | k-man | rubin110: damn - why is there not preprepared ones? |
| 09:05.23 | rubin110 | k-man: My solution was booting up a debian VM on my mac, and then creating one that way. |
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| 09:05.37 | rubin110 | k-man: I was asking that same question 1 month ago. |
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| 09:06.28 | k-man | rubin110: oh well.... |
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| 09:07.41 | rubin110 | k-man: So most of the docs on Debian's site say to find a .img for your release, then dd that to a drive. |
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| 09:07.47 | rubin110 | If you can find a .img you win. |
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| 09:09.22 | rubin110 | k-man: dd if=/path/to/downloaded.img of=/dev/diskN bs=1m |
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| 09:11.22 | k-man | how do i do an fdisk -l in mac? |
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| 09:11.50 | Arrowmaster | do you not have dd on mac? |
| 09:11.55 | k-man | yeah, i do |
| 09:12.05 | k-man | i just don't know where the usb drive device is |
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| 09:12.45 | Arrowmaster | no clue there |
| 09:12.45 | rubin110 | Hold on. |
| 09:12.47 | rubin110 | It's stupid. |
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| 09:12.55 | k-man | its ok, i think i found it using mount |
| 09:13.00 | rubin110 | diskutil list |
| 09:13.15 | rubin110 | diskutil umountDisk /dev/diskN |
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| 09:13.24 | rubin110 | Do the dd |
| 09:13.34 | rubin110 | Did you find a .img? |
| 09:13.41 | k-man | yeah |
| 09:13.47 | k-man | well just the boot img |
| 09:13.56 | rubin110 | But it's a .img, not .iso? |
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| 09:14.07 | k-man | yeah |
| 09:14.15 | rubin110 | Mind giving me the link? |
| 09:14.22 | k-man | then you drop the .iso onto the fat fs after the d |
| 09:14.23 | k-man | dd |
| 09:14.27 | k-man | rubin110: sure |
| 09:14.37 | k-man | http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/ |
| 09:14.43 | rubin110 | An iso wont work. |
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| 09:14.55 | k-man | why? |
| 09:15.03 | Arrowmaster | no you do need an iso |
| 09:15.19 | k-man | rubin110: read 4.4.1 here: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/ch04s04.html.en#usb-copy-easy |
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| 09:15.57 | rubin110 | Ok, let me know if it works. :P |
| 09:16.03 | rubin110 | I think I've been down this path. |
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| 09:17.04 | k-man | ok, well see in a minute |
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| 09:17.11 | k-man | dding now |
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| 09:18.37 | rubin110 | Remember that you need to drop the contents of a small cd into a directory on the thumb drive after you're done. |
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| 09:18.52 | Arrowmaster | not the contents |
| 09:18.56 | k-man | rubin110: the iso |
| 09:18.58 | Arrowmaster | you drop the iso itself |
| 09:19.05 | rubin110 | Oh, hurm. |
| 09:19.09 | k-man | hehe |
| 09:19.09 | rubin110 | Ok, I must be tired then. |
| 09:19.18 | k-man | poor rubin110 |
| 09:19.24 | rubin110 | Poor me. |
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| 09:19.35 | rubin110 | Going straight to sid. |
| 09:19.36 | k-man | rubin110: its ok, i appreciate the help anyway :) |
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| 09:19.49 | k-man | you should go straight to bed maybe |
| 09:20.03 | rubin110 | It's so close, yet so far away. |
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| 09:20.56 | k-man | damn, how long does it take to dd 256 meg to a usb flash disk |
| 09:20.57 | k-man | ? |
| 09:21.02 | k-man | paces |
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| 09:21.29 | rubin110 | Oh, heh, that rings a bell on one of the things that didn't work for me. :P |
| 09:21.31 | k-man | and dd gives no progress indication either |
| 09:21.42 | Arrowmaster | yeah it takes a while |
| 09:21.42 | rubin110 | Under the debian vm, it took a matter of seconds. |
| 09:21.55 | k-man | oh, finished! |
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| 09:22.00 | rubin110 | Lucky! |
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| 09:23.01 | k-man | ok, writing netinst image now |
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| 09:25.25 | k-man | awesome! it appears to have worked |
| 09:25.31 | k-man | at least it got to the boot screen |
| 09:25.46 | k-man | i have to find a keyboard for it now - hard to install without a keyboard |
| 09:26.20 | k-man | thanks rubin110 and Arrowmaster for your support :) |
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| 09:27.43 | rubin110 | Yup yup. |
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| 09:30.20 | k-man | oh, maybe i used the wrong netinst image or the wront boot.img as i got this error message: it says it cannot load the kernel modules as they are for a different version |
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| 09:38.12 | SparFux1 | I have installed pulseaudio in debian sid and I get no sound output on pulse device. |
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| 09:40.03 | jelly | SparFux1: chech whether pulseaudio is running and whether it, or something else, has the real audio devices in /dev/snd/* open |
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| 09:42.35 | SparFux1 | jelly: the daemon is running. |
| 09:42.56 | SparFux1 | lsof /dev/snd/* gives me nothing. |
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| 09:45.50 | SparFux1 | ah! good point. |
| 09:46.05 | SparFux1 | aha, espeak and flite are accessing sound. |
| 09:46.12 | SparFux1 | perhaps I have to terminate them first? |
| 09:46.53 | jelly | perhaps |
| 09:47.11 | jelly | get /dev/snd/pcm* clean |
| 09:48.12 | SparFux1 | I did, still no sound output. pa daemon running and lsof shows only pa daemon accessing. |
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| 10:07.25 | Pierreb | how do i remove a package that completely fails to remove itself? |
| 10:07.44 | Pierreb | it says the package dont exist and when i try to install it again to make it show up it breaks |
| 10:08.13 | raccoon_ | Pierreb: what does dpkg -l <package> say |
| 10:08.55 | Pierreb | i get 3 errors |
| 10:09.02 | raccoon_ | rubin110: that depends on what packages you have chosen to be installed, obviously. |
| 10:09.08 | Pierreb | subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status |
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| 10:10.11 | Pierreb | the package cant be found under /var/cache/apt/archives/ either |
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| 10:11.36 | macrobat | rubin110: use dpigs cmd from the debian-goodies to see which pks use the disk. or have a look at gdmap |
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| 10:13.26 | stsm | i got this modem/router combo, i got root access, and i got a busybox binary for it, now i wanted to see if i could boot a debian instalaation trough chroot |
| 10:13.32 | stsm | *installation |
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| 10:13.49 | stsm | and could i somehow make the devices available to the chroot? |
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| 10:17.41 | macrobat | in google-chrome, backspace doesn't go back anymore |
| 10:18.22 | macrobat | Pierreb: apt-file list pkgname. see if you have any of those files |
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| 10:18.39 | stsm | hates chrome |
| 10:18.44 | stsm | as if there werent enough browsers |
| 10:18.56 | macrobat | there can never be enough browsers |
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| 10:19.27 | macrobat | i agree chrome is kind of dumb |
| 10:21.18 | stsm | its a pain for the poor webmaster to make his website render on all these different browsers |
| 10:21.34 | stsm | and some of the browsers are just insanely stupid :( |
| 10:21.52 | stsm | conditional comments for IE and that kind of madness |
| 10:22.19 | Pierreb | macrobat: apt-file does not exist |
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| 10:22.45 | macrobat | ,versions apt-file |
| 10:22.46 | judd | apt-file -- etch: 2.0.8.2; lenny: 2.1.5; sid: 2.3.3; squeeze: 2.3.3 |
| 10:22.52 | macrobat | does too! |
| 10:23.13 | Pierreb | -bash: apt-file: command not found |
| 10:23.20 | valdyn | !installit |
| 10:23.20 | macrobat | !installit |
| 10:23.20 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
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| 10:23.42 | Pierreb | yeah kinda hard to install something when it first attempt to remove a package that refuse to be removed |
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| 10:24.16 | valdyn | Pierreb: obviously you need to have a working system - fix it |
| 10:24.17 | hiwk | what tool would I use to (temporarily) change keyboard layout within an X session? |
| 10:24.28 | valdyn | hiwk: in gnome? in which environment? |
| 10:24.37 | Pierreb | valdyn: obviously im trying to fix it but its failing so whats your point other then trolling |
| 10:24.40 | hiwk | I use wmaker |
| 10:25.01 | valdyn | Pierreb: did you tell us the error yet? |
| 10:25.07 | macrobat | hiwk: setxkbmap |
| 10:25.32 | valdyn | Pierreb: what you pasted isnt the first error |
| 10:25.32 | macrobat | Pierreb: you tried to install an rpm via alien? |
| 10:25.40 | Pierreb | yes |
| 10:25.42 | Cope | fail |
| 10:25.47 | valdyn | Pierreb: never do that |
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| 10:25.52 | Pierreb | i know that now |
| 10:26.05 | valdyn | Pierreb: remove the postrm script or fix the postrm script manually |
| 10:26.26 | valdyn | Pierreb: if youre luck the postrm script does nothing that would harm you if its not done |
| 10:26.37 | hiwk | macrobat: before I do anything stupid, how would I revert to the original layout? i.e. how the x server is configured |
| 10:26.44 | Pierreb | yay done |
| 10:26.46 | valdyn | Pierreb: /var/lib/dpkg/info/<packagename>.postrm |
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| 10:27.01 | Pierreb | but it was something else in dpkg status |
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| 10:29.01 | macrobat | hiwk: if it gets ugly, restart X. otherwise setxkbmap yourcurrentlayout |
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| 10:29.45 | valdyn | !keymap |
| 10:29.45 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap", or ask me about <drxx> or use kcontrol, gnome-control-center or similar. For setting up X keymaps, also check out xkeycaps and xev, or ask me about <multimedia keys>. In console you can also use "loadkeys" for once-only/temporary adjustments. |
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| 10:33.13 | hiwk | macrobat: thank you! |
| 10:33.44 | macrobat | we aim to please |
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| 10:34.47 | milligan_ | Anyone here any good with bind? I'm having some problems with a recursive bind9 server reporting SERVFAIL for one certain domain .. |
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| 10:40.40 | Bushmills | probably not the problem with your recursive bind, but with the authoritative name server of that domain |
| 10:41.25 | milligan_ | Strange is that my ns2 works fine though .. and the domain resolves etc etc. |
| 10:41.44 | Bushmills | possibly cached there. from an earlier request |
| 10:41.57 | Bushmills | what's the domain? |
| 10:42.06 | milligan_ | amv-as.no |
| 10:42.56 | Bushmills | all 3 name servers there seem to work |
| 10:43.16 | milligan_ | yep - that's why I'm so stomped. |
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| 10:43.50 | milligan_ | the domain used to be local on the server Im working on it seems .. because there was defined a zone which it was defined as master etc. However, I cleared out this info and removed the db file .. so now it should just recurse. |
| 10:43.58 | xyan | judd: pciid 8086:293e |
| 10:43.59 | judd | [8086:293e] is '82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel module 'snd-hda-intel' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:293e and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
| 10:44.15 | Bushmills | try to dig @their.dns their.host from the machine with the problematic recursive dns |
| 10:44.26 | milligan_ | tried that |
| 10:44.28 | milligan_ | gets the correct response |
| 10:45.21 | milligan_ | ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: SERVFAIL, id: 9667 is in my dig answer when asking my ns |
| 10:45.32 | milligan_ | but the logs don't have anything useful :-\ |
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| 10:46.23 | rycrostud | Hi Guys. I'm familiar with Cent OS but I'm a debian noob. Can someone advise on the best way to install the latest JDK? |
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| 10:48.02 | nkuttler | !tell rycrostud about install java |
| 10:48.09 | Bushmills | milligan_: other host names you can resolve? |
| 10:48.16 | milligan_ | Bushmills, 19-Mar-2010 10:30:37.866 query-errors: debug 1: client 2obfuscated#45048: query failed (SERVFAIL) for amv-as.no/IN/TXT at query.c:3905 |
| 10:48.22 | milligan_ | Bushmills, all others work fine, yeh. |
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| 10:51.22 | Bushmills | no idea |
| 10:51.34 | milligan_ | poo |
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| 10:55.31 | rycrostud | nkuttler - thanks. I think that was the info I needed :-) |
| 10:58.08 | jelly | how do I change the app iceweasel (in squeeze) uses for the Open action on a downloaded pdf file/ |
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| 11:16.39 | Arrowmaster | jelly: you can change it in the iceweasel options or i think mess around with ~/.mailcap |
| 11:17.23 | jelly | Arrowmaster: global mailcap lists okular as the first entry, while the browser opens gimp (which is not even there) |
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| 11:19.05 | jelly | it's there in Preferences all right :-| |
| 11:19.06 | man_in_ltop | waves |
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| 11:19.38 | man_in_ltop | what's the simplest solution for a dns server? |
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| 11:21.24 | jelly | man_in_ltop: authoritative dns server, recursor/cache dns server, both? |
| 11:21.47 | man_in_ltop | hm. difference being? |
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| 11:22.39 | valdyn | man_in_ltop: dnsmasq |
| 11:22.43 | jelly | there's nothing simple about dns servers :-) |
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| 11:23.30 | man_in_ltop | all i want is a lan server i can point my modem/router as an additional dns so i don't have to keep editing /etc/hosts |
| 11:23.50 | man_in_ltop | cos the modem/router's dhcp server doesn't add dhcp hostnames to the dns |
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| 11:26.26 | Arrowmaster | man_in_ltop: yeah dnsmasq, but either use it for dhcp too or disable its dhcp features |
| 11:26.49 | man_in_ltop | yeah |
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| 11:27.12 | man_in_ltop | can't be bothered transferring the dhcp stuff from the modem/router :P |
| 11:27.21 | man_in_ltop | might be a long-term solution, though |
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| 11:28.15 | Arrowmaster | my router uses dnsmasq for its dns/dhcp, works very well |
| 11:28.30 | man_in_ltop | nods |
| 11:28.46 | man_in_ltop | now let's see how to configure this thing :P |
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| 11:30.05 | man_in_ltop | wheeeeeeeeeeee |
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| 11:34.30 | man_in_ltop | hm |
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| 11:34.57 | SparFux1 | jelly: I restarted alsa modules and udev and ended all alsa apps and now pulseaudio works. |
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| 11:35.09 | manicman | hi |
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| 11:36.09 | manicman | i have a virtual machine which has crashed. this crash interrupted an update and now apt advices me to do a dpkg --configure -a. but this fails with this error: dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 5285 package 'iputils-ping' |
| 11:36.15 | manicman | any hints how to get this fixed? |
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| 11:37.23 | man_in_ltop | so, who can tell me if there's a way to globally disable dhcp for dnsmasq? |
| 11:37.34 | man_in_ltop | i see an option to disable it per interface |
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| 11:39.49 | babilen | manicman: Looks as if your status file got corrupted. You can find a backup of that file in /var/backups/dpkg.status.*, or in your own backups. Make sure that you create a backup of /var/lib/dpkg/status before you start to tinker with it. |
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| 11:40.51 | manicman | babilen: thx |
| 11:41.01 | man_in_ltop | oh, it seems it's disabled by default |
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| 11:41.10 | babilen | manicman: You could also paste the offending line and we can take a look at it. You might also want to diff the original with the backup ... |
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| 11:43.36 | man_in_ltop | yay, that was easy |
| 11:44.53 | manicman | babilen: this is a snippet our of the file http://pastie.org/876953 and line 27 is the error throwing one |
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| 11:50.16 | babilen | manicman: That line should (on squeeze at least) read: "Source: iputils" - but I guess that this is not the only corrupted line and would therefore try the backup first. Not sure if the most recent changes are reflected though. Another approach would be to reinstall *all* installed packages. |
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| 11:52.34 | manicman | babilen: i have a backup... how do i reinstall all installed packages? can i remove /var/lib/dpkg/*? there are as you guessed more errors... |
| 11:52.52 | manicman | babilen: can i somehow just let debian reinstall everything and recreate all these files? |
| 11:52.52 | babilen | manicman: Have you tried the backup? |
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| 11:53.10 | babilen | argh - dpkg is away |
| 11:53.36 | manicman | babilen: yes, but the next error is in the file /var/lib/dpkg/available and there is no backup of this file... or i dont see it |
| 11:54.12 | babilen | manicman: find /usr/share/doc-maxdepth 1 -mindepth 1 -type d -not -name texmf -not -name debian -printf '%f install\n'|xargs aptitude --schedule-only reinstall; aptitude install;; |
| 11:54.25 | babilen | manicman: That's the one-liner that is given in the dpkg factoid |
| 11:55.14 | manicman | babilen: there is one space missing after /usr/share/doc i guess? |
| 11:55.27 | babilen | manicman: yes - sorry :) |
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| 11:55.57 | JyZyXEL | how do you configure gtk? |
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| 11:56.13 | JyZyXEL | something similiar to qtconfig but for gtk instead |
| 11:56.19 | babilen | JyZyXEL: What do are you trying to do? What do you mean by "configure gtk" ? |
| 11:56.26 | JyZyXEL | set the default font |
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| 11:56.39 | manicman | babilen: could this help to recreate the available file: apt-cache dumpavail? help says dumpavail - Print an available file to stdout |
| 11:56.47 | babilen | JyZyXEL: Are you using gnome? |
| 11:56.51 | JyZyXEL | no |
| 11:56.54 | manicman | babilen: could i redirect the output to the available file? |
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| 12:00.22 | babilen | manicman: Not sure - the output of dumpavail and /var/lib/dpkg/available differ on my system. (I sorted both and diff'ed them) |
| 12:01.04 | babilen | JyZyXEL: There is gtk-chtheme. Or you can run gnome-settings-daemon and configure the font through gnome-control-center -> appearance |
| 12:01.57 | manicman | babilen: o.k. thx |
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| 12:02.25 | babilen | manicman: Their size is also quite different, 30M vs 2.4M |
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| 12:03.35 | manicman | babilen: ill take you way... its quite understandable... |
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| 12:05.43 | babilen | manicman: You could also try "dselect update" to fix the missing available file .. |
| 12:06.24 | babilen | manicman: Mighty dpkg also informs me that "apt-cache dumpavail > /var/lib/dpkg/available && dpkg --update-avail /var/lib/dpkg/available" works |
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| 12:07.07 | babilen | manicman: Not sure why the output of "apt-cache dumpavail" and the actual file are different on my system though |
| 12:08.08 | manicman | babilen: the find command fails... it always claims that install is not a package... |
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| 12:08.16 | manicman | also if i change %f and install |
| 12:09.06 | babilen | manicman: One second (I assume that the one-liner is wrong and that you should remove the " install" bit) - let me verify |
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| 12:10.44 | babilen | manicman: Yes, the generated output mimics "dpkg --get-selections" and you might feed that to "dpkg --set-selections" - but I would just try to remove the " install" bit. Sorry for the confusion. |
| 12:12.13 | babilen | manicman: Have you tried the /var/lib/dpkg/available fix given above - a reinstall might take much longer, but the result might be cleaner. |
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| 12:12.56 | \ottizen | I'm using Debian 5, what's the name of it? |
| 12:13.00 | \ottizen | It it lenny? |
| 12:13.20 | Stereo | \ottizen: yes |
| 12:13.28 | Stereo | try google, too :) |
| 12:13.35 | stsm | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/ |
| 12:13.46 | \ottizen | thanks |
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| 12:13.47 | manicman | babilen: no, i didnt.... i would like to have a very clean result as this is a public webserver of a student project which is security related.... ;) |
| 12:14.08 | stsm | i found the names confusing in the beginneng too, but since the versionnumber is added to the website its much better :) |
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| 12:14.09 | ethanol | guys, I have a printer in cups. everything works fine. but I'm having trouble adding it to samba. could anyone point me to a reference file? I can't figure out how to test if samba actually has the printer. is there a way to get info regarding printers known to samba? |
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| 12:17.52 | babilen | manicman: OK, good luck! Ask if you run into problems. Create backups before doing anything stupid ;) |
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| 12:20.05 | manicman | babilen: i have made a snapshot but this has failed because of quoatas on my user account... this has brought me into this trouble..:\ |
| 12:20.06 | babilen | manicman: Let me know if the "remove ' install'" advice worked - I'll change the factoid to reflect that then ... |
| 12:20.07 | manicman | thx |
| 12:20.47 | stsm | if i cannot use debootstrap, but i do have chroot available, can i still setup a debian chroot? |
| 12:21.10 | babilen | stsm: Sure |
| 12:21.21 | stsm | babilen: is there a doc about that? |
| 12:21.41 | babilen | stsm: A chroot does not necessarily need to contain a complete install |
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| 12:21.59 | valdyn | ethanol: via would you add another layer to your printer server with samba? |
| 12:22.01 | stsm | babilen: well i would love it to be just a basic debian system, CLI only since its a modem/router |
| 12:22.29 | valdyn | ethanol: *why* even |
| 12:22.30 | stsm | babilen: also is there anything i should take into account since this is a router? (dont want to write to its flash of course) |
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| 12:23.01 | stsm | babilen: or can i loopmount /dev without any trouble? |
| 12:23.16 | babilen | stsm: You would basically copy all binaries you want in there and relevant libraries to the chroot .. |
| 12:23.38 | ethanol | valdyn: can cups share the printer to windows pcs? |
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| 12:23.58 | valdyn | ethanol: windows prints to cups just fine |
| 12:24.32 | valdyn | ethanol: its just using http, not smb |
| 12:25.00 | babilen | stsm: "mount -o bind /dev /path/to/chroot/dev" should do the trick |
| 12:25.16 | babilen | stsm: You might also want to: "mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc |
| 12:25.29 | valdyn | ethanol: or read http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/CUPS-printing.html#id2633487, but i dont see the point of adding another point of error |
| 12:25.41 | babilen | stsm: s,/mnt/gentoo,/path/to/chroot |
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| 12:26.00 | stsm | babilen: is there any risk to write to the flash since thats also a device? |
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| 12:26.27 | babilen | stsm: no idea :-\ |
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| 12:27.15 | babilen | stsm: You might want to take a look at openwrt/dd-wrt for nice router firmware ... |
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| 12:27.36 | stsm | babilen: i know about those :) |
| 12:27.47 | lindi- | just beware of the proprietary wlan drivers they ship :) |
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| 12:27.56 | stsm | babilen: but i dont want to flash it, plus i love to start from a minimal devbian system, and then just install as i need stuff |
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| 12:28.25 | babilen | stsm: sure, just wanted to mention these projects |
| 12:28.31 | stsm | babilen: yes of course thanx |
| 12:29.14 | stsm | maybe i should just use the chroot to get a gcc on that thing, so i can compile stuff i need :) |
| 12:30.29 | babilen | stsm: Why can't you use debootstrap btw? Tools like pbuilder, cowbuilder and makejail might also be of interest to you. |
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| 12:31.00 | babilen | dpkg: wb |
| 12:31.00 | dpkg | thanks, babilen. It's good to be back. |
| 12:31.09 | babilen | !chroot |
| 12:31.09 | dpkg | a way to change the root directory of a process, see also http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch09.en.html#_chroot_system |
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| 12:31.27 | babilen | stsm: Read that ^^^^ for information on using pbuilder to create a chroot |
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| 12:34.43 | stsm | babilen: since the router has no debootstrap, i got a busybox binary for it though |
| 12:35.08 | stsm | so that contains chroot |
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| 12:40.15 | manicman | babilen: i feel like my system gets more and more broken... i have the error: aptitude: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libsigc-2.0.so.0: invalid ELF header while trying to execute aptitude... apt-get dist-upgrade fails with this: http://pastie.org/876987 any hints? |
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| 12:43.01 | babilen | ,versions libreadline |
| 12:43.03 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'libreadline' was found. |
| 12:43.04 | babilen | ,versions libreadline6 |
| 12:43.05 | judd | libreadline6 -- sid: 6.1-1; squeeze: 6.1-1 |
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| 12:43.26 | babilen | ,versions libsqlite3-0 |
| 12:43.27 | judd | libsqlite3-0 -- etch: 3.3.8-1.1; lenny: 3.5.9-6; lenny-backports: 3.6.21-2~bpo50+1; squeeze: 3.6.22-1; sid: 3.6.23-1 |
| 12:43.54 | babilen | !bat |
| 12:43.54 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
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| 12:44.34 | babilen | manicman: Could you paste the output of the above commands. Substitute PKG1 with "python" and "python2.5" |
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| 12:46.15 | manicman | babilen: http://pastie.org/876995 |
| 12:46.21 | developer | which command would open up port 3306 on my debian server, so that I could connect to the servers mysql from othet computers from my network. And which command would open so I could send my from port 25 from my debian server |
| 12:46.45 | babilen | manicman: Do you intend to run squeeze? |
| 12:46.52 | manicman | babilen: yes |
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| 12:47.03 | vlt | Hello. How can I show info about a DVD+R media in /dev/dvd? Is there a more detailed wodim option than "-checkdrive"? |
| 12:47.20 | manicman | babilen: i was just upgrading vom lenny to squeeze |
| 12:47.22 | babilen | developer: All ports are open by default - Looks as if you are struggling with the firewall. |
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| 12:47.39 | streuner__ | vlt: yes |
| 12:47.58 | babilen | manicman: oh well - that does not really makes fixing this any easier. |
| 12:48.07 | manicman | babilen: hm.. yes..:( |
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| 12:48.29 | streuner__ | !info qpxtool |
| 12:48.35 | Titan8990 | developer: I don't think mysql-server listens on TCP by default |
| 12:48.58 | streuner__ | vlt: check qpxtool out |
| 12:49.06 | babilen | manicman: I guess that the output (the unmet dependencies) is the result of the one-liner to fix the status file? |
| 12:49.15 | dpkg | qpxtool: (CD/DVD quality checker), section otherosfs, is extra. Version: 0.6.1-5 (sid), Packaged size: 338 kB, Installed size: 1256 kB |
| 12:49.43 | babilen | manicman: What does "aptitude update" give you? |
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| 12:49.48 | manicman | babilen: hm.. i had to restart cause of udev installation... and after that i had this problem... |
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| 12:50.09 | babilen | manicman: Have you upgraded udev yet? Have you installed the new kernel? |
| 12:50.09 | manicman | babilen: aptitude just says: aptitude: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libsigc-2.0.so.0: invalid ELF header |
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| 12:50.51 | developer | how could I check if the firewall is blocking the port? |
| 12:52.12 | iceroot | developer: nmap -p port-numbre hostname |
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| 12:52.38 | developer | whats stands hostname for? |
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| 12:53.11 | babilen | manicman: Is dpkg still working? |
| 12:53.19 | xyan | anyone knows how to manually add a input device to X when having Option AutoAddDevices false? |
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| 12:53.33 | Titan8990 | developer: hostname is the hostname or IP of the box in question.... |
| 12:53.34 | manicman | babilen: yep |
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| 12:54.46 | babilen | manicman: Which version of libsigc++-2.0-0c2a and aptitude are installed right now? |
| 12:56.23 | manicman | babilen: hm.. i tried dpkg -s aptitude and got this error: http://pastie.org/877006 |
| 12:56.34 | manicman | babilen: any other way to find out which version is installed? |
| 12:57.56 | vlt | streuner__: Thank you. |
| 12:57.56 | babilen | manicman: So your "available" file is still borked |
| 12:58.08 | babilen | manicman: Try to replace that with the command given above |
| 12:58.09 | manicman | babilen: yes, seems so... |
| 12:58.40 | babilen | manicman: Is a reinstall an option? (just checking) |
| 12:58.49 | manicman | babilen: this one: "apt-cache dumpavail > /var/lib/dpkg/available && dpkg --update-avail /var/lib/dpkg/available" ? |
| 12:58.53 | babilen | yep |
| 12:59.33 | manicman | babilen: theoretically yes. id like to avoid this... |
| 12:59.49 | babilen | sure - it might be less work |
| 13:01.20 | manicman | babilen: aptitude is 0.4.11.11-1~lenny1, libsigc++2.0-0c2a is v 2.0.18-2 |
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| 13:01.52 | babilen | manicman: The problem is that a lot of packages are in transition now on your system. I would try to get aptitude to run by installing/upgrading applicable packages by hand .. and then try to proceed with the dist-upgrade |
| 13:02.26 | babilen | manicman: That are both stable versions .. |
| 13:02.46 | manicman | babilen: k, are there any docs how to install aptitude by hand perhaps in a static version? with statically compiled in libs? |
| 13:02.56 | babilen | manicman: Might be due to the new glibc ... |
| 13:03.18 | babilen | manicman: I meant something like: "dpkg -i <pkg>" ... |
| 13:03.35 | babilen | manicman: That is a real mess ... |
| 13:03.47 | babilen | manicman: apt-get working? |
| 13:04.13 | babilen | manicman: And could you fix the "available" file with that command? |
| 13:04.56 | manicman | babilen: more or less... i always get this error http://pastie.org/877018 with python... |
| 13:05.05 | manicman | babilen: the available file is working again |
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| 13:06.13 | babilen | manicman: Try "apt-get update" and "apt-get install aptitude", "apt-get install udev" |
| 13:06.41 | babilen | That will hopefully lead to a more consistent state from which you can continue with the dist-upgrade |
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| 13:07.15 | manicman | babilen: apt-get install aptitude resulst in this: http://pastie.org/877026 |
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| 13:08.40 | babilen | manicman: "dpkg --configure -a" ? |
| 13:09.13 | babilen | manicman: The "available" file is for lenny IMHO |
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| 13:09.57 | stsm | babilen, sorry for leaving like that, damn freenode banned the webclient while i was afk |
| 13:10.09 | babilen | stsm: no problem |
| 13:10.44 | stsm | babilen, luckily most is only mounted readonly :) |
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| 13:11.04 | manicman | babilen: hm... looked good but didnt help..:( |
| 13:11.09 | babilen | manicman: Have you run "apt-get update" before "apt-get install aptitude" ? |
| 13:11.31 | manicman | babilen: yes... |
| 13:12.11 | babilen | manicman: Could you paste the output of the "dpkg --configure -a" run? |
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| 13:12.45 | manicman | babilen: http://pastie.org/877030 |
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| 13:14.58 | babilen | manicman: That all does not look good. To be honest: I would reinstall that VM .. |
| 13:16.29 | manicman | babilen: hm.. o.k...;( |
| 13:17.25 | babilen | manicman: But at least try: "apt-get dist-upgrade" |
| 13:17.55 | manicman | babilen: nope, that runs in the dependency error..:( |
| 13:18.27 | babilen | manicman: But "apt-get update" runs without problems? |
| 13:18.32 | manicman | babilen: yep |
| 13:19.01 | manicman | babilen: can i go back to lenny, update and upgrade everything, and then return to squeeze? |
| 13:19.16 | xayon | what? |
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| 13:20.05 | bbd | manicman: you can do "aptitude reinstall <packagename>" for suspiciuos packages, you also should do dpkg --purge (beware configs are purged) for packages which have postinst script damaged |
| 13:20.09 | babilen | manicman: Which version for python2.5 is given in the available file? (search for "Package: python2.5") |
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| 13:20.51 | babilen | manicman: same for libreadline6 |
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| 13:22.12 | manicman | babilen: python2.5: 2.5.5-2 libreadline6: 6.1-1 |
| 13:22.45 | babilen | manicman: hmm, that's correct. apt-cache policy libreadline6 ? |
| 13:23.19 | manicman | babilen: http://pastie.org/877037 |
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| 13:24.39 | fasta | My screen goes off (backlight turns off) randomly, but with a change to the console and back to X it is enabled again with some luck for an unknown about of time (but more than 30 minutes usually). Do these events get reported by the kernel, does the kernel initiate it or does the BIOS do it. Is the BIOS even active after the kernel has control (AFAIK, no)? |
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| 13:25.42 | babilen | manicman: But I guess this all work for nothing and will not really result in a sane system. reinstall it is. You could try to install all packages manually (either by trying "aptitude install <pkg>" or by using "dpkg -i ,pkg>") |
| 13:25.57 | Titan8990 | !aptitude clone |
| 13:25.58 | dpkg | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>. <debian clone> |
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| 13:27.24 | k-man | how do i enable tv-out on an ati radeon? |
| 13:27.49 | Titan8990 | s-video? should just work |
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| 13:28.12 | k-man | Titan8990: hmm... does it need to be plugged in before booting for it to work? |
| 13:28.28 | Titan8990 | k-man: don't recall but I wouldn't think so |
| 13:28.35 | manicman | babilen: yep, o.k. i go install a fresh debian as squeeze... |
| 13:28.47 | icebrain | anyone using ext4? is it stable? any recommendations for a FS for an all duty disk? |
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| 13:29.38 | babilen | manicman: Well, sorry - but that was the biggest mess i've seen in a while (at least the biggest that was not caused by mixing different distributions) |
| 13:29.45 | Titan8990 | !start a filesystem war |
| 13:29.46 | dpkg | Sigh, just use ext3 already. |
| 13:31.15 | jelly | !botsnack |
| 13:31.15 | dpkg | jelly: :) |
| 13:32.10 | heberth | hola!! un placer estar en la comunidad |
| 13:32.16 | Titan8990 | !es |
| 13:32.17 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 13:32.29 | babilen | heberth: or speak English in here :) |
| 13:32.48 | heberth | ok!! |
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| 13:35.06 | k-man | hmm, after installing the netinst nightly, i can't log in with either my user or root password i created during the install |
| 13:35.42 | catfive1 | does anyone have a moment to discuss how to plan for scaling a virtual debian server, namely increasing disk space? |
| 13:36.19 | k-man | catfive1: mdadm and lvm |
| 13:36.51 | catfive1 | k-man: is mdadm a raid controller? |
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| 13:36.56 | Titan8990 | catfive1: use LVM... don't allocate all the space in your PV |
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| 13:37.09 | Titan8990 | catfive1: mdadm is software raid |
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| 13:37.26 | catfive1 | it's on a SAN so that won't be necessary |
| 13:37.49 | OpenTokix | lvm ftw |
| 13:37.53 | catfive1 | and unfortunately this machine was set up without LVM |
| 13:38.03 | Titan8990 | catfive1: using LVM? what does storage device type have to do with it? |
| 13:38.03 | catfive1 | is it worth a reinstall? |
| 13:38.17 | Titan8990 | catfive1: is this a box in production? |
| 13:38.19 | OpenTokix | catfive1: What do you have to increase? |
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| 13:38.44 | catfive1 | the box is in development, it was planned to roll it out for production |
| 13:39.03 | catfive1 | it's a LAMP server for our new website |
| 13:39.34 | OpenTokix | catfive1: reinstall with lvm on all folders, or divide it as is |
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| 13:39.44 | OpenTokix | lvm is relly nice, esp. if you are using a SAN |
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| 13:39.48 | catfive1 | is there a good intro to LVM out there? |
| 13:39.54 | catfive1 | not familiar with it at all |
| 13:39.58 | Titan8990 | catfive1: that is your call... LVM gives you the ability to grow live partitions. if your going to do it, now is the time before deployment |
| 13:40.10 | catfive1 | yeah, sounds like what i need |
| 13:40.18 | catfive1 | because right now i have to take it down to grow them |
| 13:40.26 | catfive1 | or add virtual disks |
| 13:40.31 | jelly | catfive1: alternately, use a filesystem directly on a LUN (no partitions!), then you'll be able to grow the LUN and the filesystem online |
| 13:40.31 | Titan8990 | catfive1: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/ |
| 13:40.32 | catfive1 | and neither of those seem like good options |
| 13:40.53 | Titan8990 | jelly: that only applies to SCSI, no? |
| 13:41.25 | catfive1 | only 1 partition? i thought that wasn't advised |
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| 13:41.50 | jelly | catfive1: no, _no partitions_ |
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| 13:42.12 | catfive1 | ah |
| 13:42.41 | Titan8990 | catfive1: as I understand it, its a SCSI thing where you cat "catenate" drives in an array |
| 13:42.45 | jelly | Titan8990: is there a SAN device that doesn't present itself as scsi? |
| 13:43.25 | catfive1 | ours does certainly |
| 13:43.36 | zvalentiner | I'm running a server, recently upgraded to sid, and since upgrading, applications (e.g., JAMES mail server) only binds to ipv6. Would anyone happen to have any idea as to why they are doing this, or how to fix that? |
| 13:43.53 | Titan8990 | a "play" server I hope.... |
| 13:44.06 | jelly | Titan8990: I don't know what your talking about, but it's not what I meant. Typically SAN storage acts at least like a hw raid, and one can resize a presented (slice of an) array online |
| 13:44.37 | Titan8990 | jelly: that is what I was trying to say, only wored poorly |
| 13:44.43 | Titan8990 | worded |
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| 13:46.01 | codingrobot | i just installed squeeze with debootstrap and booting is really 'quiet', i mean there are no messages from the daemons like "staring ...". did i miss a config option?! |
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| 13:46.29 | jelly | codingrobot: is there a "quiet" kernel boot parameter? |
| 13:46.31 | catfive1 | ok, so as someone who has no experience with either LUN or LVM, which is going to be easier to deploy? |
| 13:46.31 | Titan8990 | codingrobot: remove "quiet" from the kernel arguements |
| 13:46.47 | codingrobot | jelly, Titan8990: it's not the kernel, it's debian |
| 13:46.49 | catfive1 | does one act more like a standard volume than the other? (guessing lvm) |
| 13:47.09 | jelly | catfive1: lvm adds flexibility. It's hard to say which is easier without knowing what your storage can do |
| 13:47.15 | codingrobot | even booting w/o quiet i only get the kernel messages and right after that the login prompt |
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| 13:47.47 | jelly | codingrobot: do you have both serial and vga console? |
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| 13:47.57 | catfive1 | ok, i'm going to fire up a test vm with LVM and see how it goes, thanks for the input everybody |
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| 13:48.28 | codingrobot | i didn't change anything in the config :) i get the login prompt as expected and i can use it |
| 13:48.31 | Strogg | 'lo 'lo |
| 13:48.33 | codingrobot | the daemons are running too |
| 13:48.57 | stian79 | How can I get my mic working in debian squeeze |
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| 13:49.09 | codingrobot | but there are no "staring... (ex. openssh)" messages from the daemons |
| 13:49.24 | codingrobot | i even set VERBOSE=yes in rcS |
| 13:49.42 | jelly | codingrobot: can we see your /proc/cmdline? |
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| 13:50.13 | codingrobot | BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.33-srv root=/dev/sda1 ro |
| 13:50.14 | Strogg | I just dist-upgraded to Lenny from Etch and it seems my bugzilla installation is running really slow. page loads take about 3 seconds to show up. static html pages don't seem to have this problem. Has anyone run into this problem with apache before? |
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| 13:50.54 | Strogg | hrmm.. maybe it's my perl install. hrmm |
| 13:51.00 | jtheuer | does anyonw have a nice LS_COLORS profile for dark backgrounds? |
| 13:51.04 | stsm | system type: ADI Fusiv Core |
| 13:51.04 | stsm | cpu model: Lexra LX4189 V0.0 |
| 13:51.10 | stsm | is that mips or mipsel if anybody knows |
| 13:53.51 | Strogg | hrmm yeah.. cups runs at full speed. hrmm |
| 13:54.12 | Strogg | oh. hrmm nevermind that. that's just a link to :631. |
| 13:54.25 | jelly | codingrobot: looks sensible; no ideas |
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| 13:56.59 | k-man | just installed debian netinst and had a few problems (its the nightly) |
| 13:57.01 | antelink | Hello there |
| 13:57.13 | k-man | where do i report them? |
| 13:57.37 | developer | I have made a java program which sends a mail, it works properly when it's executed on my windows comp but not when it's executed on my debian comp. Do you think the firewall in debian is blocking? |
| 13:58.10 | jtheuer | no |
| 13:58.26 | babilen | developer: unlikely unles you've configured it to do so |
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| 13:59.06 | developer | so ehast could be the problem? |
| 13:59.19 | developer | ehat=what |
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| 14:01.17 | jelly | developer: know how exactly does it send mail, smtp to a smarthost? /usr/sbin/sendmail? |
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| 14:01.57 | jelly | if the latter, check your MTA (mail server) logs |
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| 14:02.44 | catfive1 | ok sorry this is a dumb question, but how do i tell what FS the debian installer used? |
| 14:02.56 | catfive1 | i just told it LVM and i don't think it prompted me to choose |
| 14:05.00 | developer | it send trough smtp with port 25 |
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| 14:06.03 | catfive1 | fdisk -l says it's got two volumes, one formatted "linux" and one "linux lvm..." |
| 14:07.07 | jelly | that's ok |
| 14:08.52 | catfive1 | sorry, ignore me, i need to read up! |
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| 14:10.50 | jelly | catfive1: you'll want to pvdisplay and vgdisplay and lvdisplay and stuff |
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| 14:13.31 | schoppenhauer | hello. i remember to have read that something - either /etc/modules or /etc/modprobe.conf - will be deprecated soon. Both files seem to do the same. Whats the difference? And which one is to prefer? |
| 14:16.47 | catfive1 | jelly: yeah i'm learning⦠could i have you clear up one thing though? `df` shows the partitions as lvdisplay shows the volumes as /dev/debian/whatever, but df shows the partitions as /dev/mapper/debian-whateven |
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| 14:20.41 | OPPressed | hey.. how would I force debian(lenny) to upgrade from libqt4.4 to libqt4.5 |
| 14:20.47 | catfive1 | jelly: so, if i'm, say, mounting a volume, does it matter which identifier i use? i tried it both ways and it seems to work |
| 14:22.24 | jelly | catfive1: yeah, both link to the same device, but init scripts seem to favor /dev/mapper/ |
| 14:22.25 | stian79 | Can anyone tell me how to get sound from the microphone? it works under windoze, but I have not had any luck here. It's a intel card by the way. |
| 14:22.45 | rgr | you dont get sound from a mic. You get sound from speakers ... |
| 14:22.51 | rgr | heh ... ;) |
| 14:22.59 | rgr | Did you unmute it using alsa-mixer? |
| 14:23.20 | rudi_s_ | OPPressed: You can't if 4.4 is what comes with debian. |
| 14:23.34 | stian79 | I'm quite shure I did, but can check again |
| 14:23.36 | OPPressed | ok |
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| 14:24.09 | rgr | stian79: you might need to enable the switch. also do a lspci to see if you see the mic. |
| 14:24.27 | rebgil | Hi, I'm struggling trying to figure out why sshing between my house and my datacenter is sometimes instantaneous and sometimes it takes over 20 secs which triggers nagios to alert, ping is like 6-10ms, and there are only a 5 hops, dns is properly configured, ssh -v host shows the delay after "debug: identity file /root/.ssh/id_dsa type -1, then it sits there, I don't know what is causing the... |
| 14:24.30 | rebgil | ...delay on the next step debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-5 |
| 14:25.53 | rgr | you have a dynamic ip on the client doing the connecting? |
| 14:26.07 | rebgil | rgr: yes |
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| 14:26.42 | rgr | I dont know the details, but often "reverse lookup" or reverse dns causes such issues. I dont remember much more but might be worht a google. |
| 14:26.54 | JPT | maybe your machine is so busy that writing the auth.log causes io_wait |
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| 14:26.57 | rebgil | rgr: good advice, |
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| 14:27.07 | rebgil | JPT: the load is very low |
| 14:27.19 | JPT | okay... then reverse dns sounds good |
| 14:27.23 | rgr | writing an auth.log i snot going to cause a 20s dealy ... |
| 14:27.25 | jnss | you know how there is a option when installing your debian system which will try to cut down on the number of drivers loaded in the init. my question is how much ram can this setting possibly save you |
| 14:27.43 | rgr | jnss: not enough to bother with it if you dont understand it. |
| 14:28.11 | rebgil | rgr: can I just put anything in the hosts file on the remote host to get around the dynamic ip issue? |
| 14:28.16 | jnss | yeah alright. thanks |
| 14:28.25 | rebgil | ssh joe |
| 14:28.27 | rgr | no idea tbh. |
| 14:28.47 | rebgil | oops sorry wrong windows |
| 14:28.50 | rgr | lol |
| 14:29.09 | rgr | but why would i tbe I wonder? did you put your client key in the autorized_keys file? |
| 14:29.10 | stian79 | rgr: what would I be looking fore? |
| 14:29.10 | vyrgozunqk | is away: Gone away for now |
| 14:29.12 | developer | Can somebody see why my java program got problem with sending a mail trough SMTP port 25? The program works properly on my windows comp! So it got to be a configuration problem with my debian comp |
| 14:29.32 | ChaozZBubi | someone got any idea to my problem? http://paste.debian.net/64869/ (from #ffmpeg) |
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| 14:30.03 | Titan8990 | developer: what jre are you using? is it the same that you coded the app for? |
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| 14:30.19 | rebgil | rgr: I just put an entry into my hosts file and it's fast fast fast, thanks a bunch and I was worth a laugh too |
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| 14:30.46 | Titan8990 | developer: does it expect to use the system's MTA? |
| 14:30.48 | catfive1 | thanks for the response jelly, now can i ask why it's telling me there are 0 extents available when i try to extend a partition? i doubled the disk size in vmware |
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| 14:34.30 | stian79 | rgr: what would I be looking fore? I could not tell much from lspci, but there is some info in KDE info Center |
| 14:34.33 | catfive1 | ok, so i need to increase the pv size⦠pvdisplay still shows the original size... |
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| 14:35.43 | rgr | rebgil: glad I could help |
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| 14:36.38 | SRP | I'm new to debian, and I've installed my first vps. At first everything worked, but now when I'm accessing it trough my browser I see the following. SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.1p1 Debian-5 |
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| 14:37.04 | SRP | Could someone point me into the right direction to remove that text? |
| 14:37.25 | Titan8990 | SRP: we have no idea what kind of service the box is hosting or what your accessing "from your browser" |
| 14:37.56 | fireba11 | SRP: sounds like the apache placeholder page listing details of the serving software. |
| 14:38.05 | stsm | can i use debootstrap on my desktop to get a mips or mipsel base system to copy to my router to chroot into? |
| 14:38.12 | keith4 | nor do we know the difference between your and you're |
| 14:38.41 | Titan8990 | keith4: minor details :p |
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| 14:39.01 | cabrilo | \q |
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| 14:39.15 | SRP | fireba11, I get you my services list |
| 14:39.21 | keith4 | is he pointing a web browser at the ssh port? |
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| 14:39.35 | Pupeno | Do you set the hostname of a machine to 127.0.0.1 or to one of the public ips in a server in /etc/hosts ? |
| 14:39.38 | Titan8990 | we don't know... we are waiting for him to tell us what hes accessing |
| 14:40.06 | Titan8990 | Pupeno: usually 127.0.0.1 but I found either one works |
| 14:41.27 | fireba11 | keith4: nope, am guessing at apache with ssl option |
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| 14:42.00 | SRP | I was accessing my virtualhost. |
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| 14:42.20 | keith4 | SRP: "accessing" is not a useful description |
| 14:42.37 | SRP | http://pastebin.com/RJskFTwr |
| 14:43.00 | Titan8990 | SRP: that does not tell us what your doing |
| 14:43.07 | SRP | I was opening a domain in my browser when I saw it. But it also appeared when opening the domain. |
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| 14:43.12 | SRP | fireba11, asked for my processes |
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| 14:43.25 | keith4 | ... he did? |
| 14:43.28 | fireba11 | SRP: no i did not. |
| 14:43.28 | SRP | I didn't Pupeno |
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| 14:43.44 | bbd | SRP: you pointed firefox to the port where ssh daemon is listening |
| 14:43.45 | Pupeno | SRP: you didn't what? |
| 14:43.58 | Titan8990 | SRP: dude... "opening the domain" is not going to cut it. You have to be descriptive about what exactly your doing EXAMPLE: "I am accessing the apache2 webserver on my debian host using my web browser" |
| 14:44.13 | developer | the java program I coded work on the debian machine but it's just not sending the mail |
| 14:44.21 | fireba11 | this is getting wirder my the minute :-D |
| 14:44.29 | SRP | Titan8990, thanks for telling :), but that was indeed what I was doing |
| 14:44.29 | keith4 | fireba11: nah, that'd be something like "Apache/2.2.9 (Debian) mod_ssl/2.2.9 OpenSSL/0.9.8g" |
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| 14:45.04 | Titan8990 | SRP: are you hosting a file that contains that information? |
| 14:45.28 | bbd | developer: how it's sending email? |
| 14:45.52 | valdyn | SRP: run "wget http://your.server/", give us the downloaded files contents |
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| 14:46.17 | SRP | Titan8990, no I'm not. valczir, I will do so now |
| 14:47.07 | Titan8990 | SRP: I wasn't asking that you host something... I was asking if you were hosting a file that.... forget it, just do what valdyn asked |
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| 14:47.58 | keith4 | wait. you're new to debian... but you managed to set up a VPS running mysql, dovecot (with sasl), and postfix? |
| 14:48.07 | keith4 | also... wtf is miniserv.pl? |
| 14:48.31 | keith4 | ... and you're running proftpd? |
| 14:48.47 | keith4 | $5 says his VPS got rooted and miniserv.pl is listening on 80 |
| 14:49.11 | Titan8990 | keith4: it looks like its part of webmin.... |
| 14:49.16 | Titan8990 | which isn't part of debian |
| 14:49.20 | Titan8990 | !webmin |
| 14:49.20 | dpkg | well, webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html about the removal. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. |
| 14:49.42 | keith4 | SRP: pastebin the output of "lsof | grep TCP" |
| 14:50.14 | Titan8990 | keith4: should be listening on 10000... however, I would not ask him to do anything until he pastebin's the wget |
| 14:50.18 | developer | it send thorugh smtp port 25 |
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| 14:50.24 | SRP | I'm running proftpd ineed. I've install webmin indeed. And with the wget it seems to get into a loop. Trying to download index.html. 200 No headers, assuming HTTP/0.9, lenght unspecified |
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| 14:50.35 | stuckey | Hi |
| 14:50.45 | Titan8990 | SRP: how did you install webmin? |
| 14:51.09 | stuckey | I got a new hard drive that I want to use as my boot drive. How do I set this up? |
| 14:51.14 | beardy | !webmin |
| 14:51.15 | dpkg | [webmin] a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html about the removal. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. |
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| 14:51.42 | SRP | Titan8990 with the official tutorial. http://webmin.com/deb.html Followed those steps |
| 14:52.16 | Titan8990 | SRP: ah, the way that our factoid explains as being "extremely poor quality"... |
| 14:52.29 | keith4 | SRP: show me "lsof | grep TCP" |
| 14:52.50 | \amethyst | Titan8990: someone pointed out a few days ago that apparently webmin's security has gotten much better in the past five years |
| 14:52.55 | SRP | keith4 http://pastebin.com/xmdqAk6K |
| 14:53.04 | catfive1 | ok guys, so i have LVM running and it looks good for dynamically managing partitions⦠but as far as the physical device⦠that is pretty much the same right? you can't grow and shrink them? |
| 14:53.10 | keith4 | brilliant |
| 14:53.14 | catfive1 | at least not online i mean |
| 14:53.26 | keith4 | SRP: see the first 4 lines? |
| 14:53.31 | pipeline | catfive1: LVM PVs can be resized online |
| 14:53.38 | keith4 | you've got sshd listening on the web port (and on the ssh port) |
| 14:53.50 | pipeline | catfive1: oh you mean if you extend the size of an underlying LUN, in your SAN or vmware or whatever |
| 14:53.52 | bbd | developer: are you sure that there's mail daemon running and properly configured on this debian machine? |
| 14:53.54 | pipeline | catfive1: no that can't be done online |
| 14:54.05 | pipeline | catfive1: create a new LUN or new VMDK or whatever, use LVM to migrate to the new, larger disk online |
| 14:54.08 | babilen | catfive1: And you can resize partitions and filesystems as well. (Albeit not online AFAIK) |
| 14:54.18 | pipeline | babilen: partitions and filesystems can be resized online. |
| 14:54.19 | keith4 | catfive1: sure you can |
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| 14:54.29 | SRP | I see the point, I was trying to get ssh on post 80. Probably shoudn't have done that. Will reverse it. |
| 14:54.39 | keith4 | and with LVM, you can add/remove PVs |
| 14:54.56 | catfive1 | can i grow them though? if i allocate more disk space in vmware? |
| 14:55.36 | keith4 | yes |
| 14:55.45 | keith4 | just attach another HD in vmware, and grow the LVM onto it |
| 14:55.55 | pipeline | catfive1: no |
| 14:55.58 | pipeline | catfive1: not online |
| 14:56.00 | Titan8990 | SRP: with tens of thousands of ports to choose... you picked the one http runs on? |
| 14:56.03 | pipeline | catfive1: you will need to create a new VMDK |
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| 14:56.43 | pipeline | catfive1: if you want to keep the numbers of VMDKs down (e.g. to limit wastage of SCSI queue), create a brand new VMDK, migrate, THEN grow. If you don't care, just add a new VMDK every time you run out of space. |
| 14:56.46 | catfive1 | and then i can add it into the LVM scheme and span volumes across them? |
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| 14:57.00 | pipeline | catfive1: you can span or migrate. Both options are online operations in LVM. |
| 14:57.13 | SRP | rebooting |
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| 14:57.18 | catfive1 | cool, but let me ask this |
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| 14:57.51 | pipeline | catfive1: you can even migrate logical volumes across disks individually: pvmove takes an lv name as argument, and if you provide one, it will only move segments pertaining to that lv. |
| 14:58.07 | catfive1 | it would be great if this could be as windows-like as possible, since i won't always be here to manage it |
| 14:58.32 | catfive1 | hmm⦠i was going to say that, in a virtual windows install you can just change the size of the disk and windows grows automatically |
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| 14:59.00 | catfive1 | but now that i think about it, that's probably only with 1 partition |
| 14:59.12 | pipeline | catfive1: That is categorically not possible in linux |
| 14:59.24 | catfive1 | right, and you really wouldn't want to anyway |
| 14:59.29 | pipeline | catfive1: The problem is that you can't edit the partition tables on disks that are in use - the kernel will refuse to recognize the changes |
| 14:59.31 | catfive1 | if you want control over partition sizes |
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| 14:59.52 | catfive1 | so even with a LUN you can't have a truly dynamic disk? |
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| 15:00.06 | pipeline | catfive1: you misunderstand me |
| 15:00.14 | deadcat | how do i kick someone off irc channel if i am the channel op? |
| 15:00.15 | catfive1 | no, i misunderstand LUN |
| 15:00.21 | pipeline | catfive1: this is a limitation at the very lowest level |
| 15:00.23 | catfive1 | ;) |
| 15:00.25 | deadcat | i mean disconnect |
| 15:00.47 | pipeline | catfive1: so... you resize your disk. The next step is to extend the DOS partition on which your LVM PV rests. |
| 15:00.55 | SRP | keith4, it's all worked now |
| 15:00.57 | pipeline | catfive1: OR create a new DOS partition on which to create a new PV |
| 15:01.02 | SRP | working* |
| 15:01.09 | pipeline | catfive1: neither of those operations is possible if the disk is in use |
| 15:01.25 | pipeline | catfive1: that's just how the kernel works :( |
| 15:01.50 | catfive1 | pipeline: ok, good to know. i will look into moving pv's and spanning lvm's |
| 15:01.57 | liable | deadcat: heres some handy aliases for ya |
| 15:01.59 | liable | http://pthree.org/2007/07/11/irssi-chanserv-and-nickserv-helper-aliases/ |
| 15:02.02 | catfive1 | thanks very much for the clarification |
| 15:02.32 | catfive1 | i still think LVM has huge advantages |
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| 15:03.24 | pipeline | catfive1: so here's the thing: if you can take the LVM VG offline, vgchange -an it, the disk won't be in use anymore by the kernel. THEN you can make partition table changes. |
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| 15:03.37 | pipeline | catfive1: the VG goes down but the host stays up. |
| 15:03.51 | pipeline | catfive1: obviously this won't work for your boot/root disk |
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| 15:04.27 | pipeline | catfive1: also don't be so hasty to praise windows - windows LVM and dynamic disk resizing were uselessly terribly broken until windows 2008 ;) |
| 15:04.36 | pipeline | catfive1: linux LVM has worked well for many years now |
| 15:05.09 | deadcat | liable: thanks |
| 15:05.25 | liable | yw |
| 15:05.51 | catfive1 | pipeline: oh no, i did not mean to offer anything that sounds like praise |
| 15:06.05 | catfive1 | merely that this is the first big linux server my org will roll out |
| 15:06.23 | pipeline | catfive1: Since you're obviously working with VMware, take it as a warning, then: resizing a windows server's system volume really really sucks in versions prior to 2008. |
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| 15:07.27 | catfive1 | yeah, i believe you. i just really want this server to set a good precedent and impress the MS fanboys ;) |
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| 15:08.56 | catfive1 | pipeline: hmmm your point about vgchange makes me think that maybe instead of a reinstall on the production box, i could maybe just add a second disk and have one LVM and one standard |
| 15:09.24 | pipeline | catfive1: you should always always always always always use lvm for everything |
| 15:09.30 | catfive1 | haha ok then :) |
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| 15:09.33 | pipeline | catfive1: if you have special needs, set up multiple LVM VGs |
| 15:09.58 | catfive1 | i just really don't want to go to my VM guy hat in hand, he will not be thrilled to re-create this for me |
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| 15:10.16 | pipeline | catfive1: e.g. put root and swap into one VG, put /var and /u01 into another VG |
| 15:10.32 | jjulian | what does the @mean at the rwrwrw@ ? |
| 15:10.50 | pipeline | catfive1: use LVM and levae a few % of extents unallocated even if you think you will never ever ever need LVM. You never know. |
| 15:11.37 | catfive1 | good advice, thanks very much again pipeline |
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| 15:11.41 | developer | I have coded a java program which computes some numbers and sends a mail through my external mail server with SMTP port 25 and of course authentication! |
| 15:11.41 | developer | The program runs properly and sends the mail on my windows computer. |
| 15:11.41 | developer | But I got problems when running the same java program at my debian comp, the program runs but it fails on send the mail! |
| 15:11.41 | developer | I think the problem would be something related to open/close port or internal firewall in my debian comp. Any idea? |
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| 15:12.38 | xayon | Lol? |
| 15:12.40 | pipeline | hope he comes back I actually know the reason it is failing :D |
| 15:12.48 | xayon | pipeline: he came back |
| 15:13.09 | pipeline | developer: debian changed the default value of a sysctl recently that breaks java's default behaviour |
| 15:13.22 | developer | ok Im back |
| 15:13.26 | pipeline | developer: when you use TCP sockets in java, by default it creates an ipv6 socket and attempts to send/receive ipv4 traffic through it |
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| 15:13.52 | pipeline | developer: the linux kernel supports this (bad) behaviour, but it's controlled by a sysctl |
| 15:14.14 | bosyak | I have disabled apache2 in all rc?.d directories... (rename link to K???) but apache still runnig after reboot. How to find who start it? |
| 15:14.17 | pipeline | developer: most Linux distributions set the sysctl to permit the bad behaviour, debian does not |
| 15:14.40 | developer | okej |
| 15:14.50 | babilen | !dbugs 560056 |
| 15:14.54 | dpkg | DONE:#560056:I[openjdk-6] net.ipv6.bindv6only=1 breaks java networking (ipv6 confirmed); Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:12:09 UTC [560142 561835] |
| 15:14.56 | developer | how would I enable this |
| 15:15.04 | babilen | developer: ^^^^^ |
| 15:15.25 | pipeline | developer: net.ipv6.bindv6only = 0 in /etc/sysctl.conf |
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| 15:15.34 | stian79 | Anyone who can tell me how to install farsight2? |
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| 15:15.51 | developer | okej thanks for the help, I'll try this out |
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| 15:16.36 | catfive1 | hey pipeline can i msg you? |
| 15:16.45 | pipeline | catfive1: no |
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| 15:17.04 | Bohemian | weird |
| 15:17.11 | pipeline | catfive1: I prefer to keep things public, for the edification and irritation of the larger group :D |
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| 15:17.55 | catfive1 | fair enough, i just wanted to ask, since you clearly really know your stuff, if you recommended any books or other resources for a crash course in linux sysadimn |
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| 15:18.30 | flo|linux | hi |
| 15:18.36 | flo|linux | i have a problem with brasero under debian |
| 15:18.51 | flo|linux | when copying a disk, it reads the disk, then tries to eject it and fails |
| 15:18.52 | catfive1 | i've been a home user and hobbiest at best for a while now, but suddenly, thrown into the thick of it, i realize just how much i know i don't know |
| 15:19.10 | flo|linux | eject /dev/hdc on console works fine. brasero's eject function does not work |
| 15:19.15 | flo|linux | is there a way to make it working? |
| 15:19.19 | flo|linux | some config files or so? |
| 15:19.26 | flo|linux | or do i need an update (how?) |
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| 15:20.09 | catfive1 | pipeline ^ |
| 15:20.58 | pipeline | catfive1: loth though I may be to say it, for employment purposes, your best bet is to pick up an RHCE. It's the only Linux certification program with any traction. |
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| 15:21.44 | catfive1 | pipeline: well i'm already employed, and not badly either, i just want to be able to handle what this server may throw at me |
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| 15:22.00 | catfive1 | never really deployed anything at this level |
| 15:22.43 | catfive1 | and also i really just want to increase my knowledge |
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| 15:23.44 | pipeline | catfive1: I have no recommendations for primers. I learned on legacy UNIX systems, not linux. Too much has changed for me to recommend a primer from 10 years ago :( |
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| 15:24.12 | catfive1 | ok, well i appreciate that, anyone else? |
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| 15:24.40 | Touns | hello |
| 15:25.09 | Touns | is it a problem to switch from aptitude to apt-get after using aptitude since a while ? |
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| 15:25.33 | rudi_s_ | Touns: No, but why would you want to do it? |
| 15:25.37 | rudi_s_ | !tell Touns about why aptitude |
| 15:25.52 | Titan8990 | Touns: no, they share the same database so it will be fine, but aptitude may pick up on things apt-get did not after using apt-get for a while |
| 15:26.10 | Titan8990 | Touns: such as package A is no longer needed |
| 15:26.34 | pipeline | Titan8990, Touns : Actually that's part of the apt library also. Apt-get will tell you when packages aren't needed :) |
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| 15:26.53 | Touns | rudi_s_: I try aptitude because a friend relly like it, but I can't definitly use it, I really prefer apt |
| 15:27.06 | catfive1 | and another open question: i've been kind of arguing with the windows guys about a desktop environment. I don't want one, both because I don't think it's worth the resources and because i don't really think there are worthwhile GUIs for LAMP administration. |
| 15:27.10 | catfive1 | am i wrong? |
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| 15:28.53 | rudi_s_ | catfive1: I don't think there's right or wrong in that case, some people prefer desktop environment, others don't. I prefer the console too, used in a simple window manager with no unnecessary extras (xmonad in my case) .. but YMMV. |
| 15:28.54 | pipeline | catfive1: the resources are irrelevant. There are indeed no worthwhile GUIs. |
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| 15:29.09 | flo|linux | can anyone help me please with my brasero-eject problem? |
| 15:29.11 | pipeline | catfive1: if it makes him more comfortable, well, it doesn't cost you anything. |
| 15:29.17 | flo|linux | why is brasero unable to eject that disk ._.? |
| 15:29.30 | pipeline | catfive1: the desktop environment, that is. GUI tools for administration will make hash out of your config files. That will cost you something :) |
| 15:29.46 | catfive1 | right, those were my fears, glad they are not unfounded |
| 15:29.49 | mederEsite | does anyone experience long hangs between sshing sometimes? |
| 15:30.10 | mederEsite | if i -vvvv it's "Checking blacklist file" |
| 15:30.18 | mederEsite | and i have to cancel and try 2-3 more times and it then proceeds |
| 15:30.19 | asaleem | how can I specify if test then do nothing else send an email |
| 15:30.33 | pipeline | mederEsite: checking the blacklist file shouldn't take very long. Is it just a really slow PC ? |
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| 15:30.58 | Titan8990 | pipeline: I have seen on multiple occasions, aptitude will remove packages when apt-get ignores them |
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| 15:31.21 | asaleem | I do "the do nothing" part with echo "">/dev/null |
| 15:31.55 | pipeline | mederEsite: I think the key exchange happens while it's checking the blacklist file on the console message there, so if either end of the connection is a really pokey CPU... |
| 15:32.10 | mederEsite | the server is pretty busy |
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| 15:32.22 | mederEsite | but if i cancel the ssh attempt and attempt 2-3 more times as i said |
| 15:32.26 | mederEsite | it goes quickly |
| 15:32.28 | mederEsite | instead of stalling |
| 15:33.11 | catfive1 | what about giving them windows utilities where they can do the basics? monitoring/restarting services and the like, anything good for that out there? |
| 15:33.49 | catfive1 | i just don't want them freaking out if things need to be checked out⦠i'm planning a vacation in the summer ;) |
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| 15:36.02 | developer | I added net.ipv6.bindv6only = 0 in /etc/sysctl.conf but it didn't help still getting the error message |
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| 15:37.04 | cga | i need to separate auth and authpriv logging. i did this http://pastebin.com/WgQsfJvW but it keeps logging both in auth.log, any idea? |
| 15:37.34 | \amethyst | developer: you also need to do sysctl net.ipv6.bindv6only=0 to have it take effect before you reboot |
| 15:37.46 | justin | sysctl -p |
| 15:38.03 | \amethyst | or that |
| 15:38.13 | babilen | developer: Have you read the bug report? |
| 15:38.51 | babilen | Isn't this fixed in the latest version of OpenJDK anyway? |
| 15:39.12 | \amethyst | not everyone uses openjdk :) |
| 15:39.13 | babilen | Ah, it's SEMI-UNFUCKED in #d-d |
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| 15:40.03 | dutchfish | http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-closed@lists.debian.org/msg270475.html |
| 15:41.04 | babilen | developer: You might also want to give a little more information regarding "the error message" you get |
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| 15:41.33 | o2 | i am trying to set up a linksys WAP54g wifi ap. normally, you would simply use the wab-based interface. but cannot access it, eventhough everything is apparently set up correctly. any ideas? |
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| 15:42.14 | o2 | strangely, nmap doesn't find the ap |
| 15:42.23 | jhutchins_lt | o2: You can do a hard reset, then use a hub, switch, or crossover cable to connect to the wired port. |
| 15:42.43 | jhutchins_lt | o2: Refer to the documentation (on line if necessary) for the default address. |
| 15:42.45 | o2 | i am using a switch to connect it to my router |
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| 15:42.58 | o2 | the default is 245 or 251. tried both |
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| 15:43.21 | Titan8990 | o2: nmap -sP 192.168.1.0/24 |
| 15:43.33 | jhutchins_lt | Your interface needs to be set to the correct address and netmask as well. |
| 15:43.37 | o2 | does not list the ap, but i'll simply try again |
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| 15:44.28 | o2 | np 245 or 251 listed there |
| 15:44.47 | o2 | so, how can the device not be listed by nmap... |
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| 15:44.54 | o2 | it should have an ip address |
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| 15:45.19 | o2 | and i even see that my switch and the ap are communicating |
| 15:45.32 | Titan8990 | o2: look at the ARP table on the switch |
| 15:45.50 | o2 | how do i do that without knowing its ip? |
| 15:46.02 | Titan8990 | o2: you don't know the switches IP either? |
| 15:46.14 | o2 | the switches ip? |
| 15:46.24 | jhutchins_lt | Titan8990: Unmanaged switches do not have IP's. |
| 15:46.33 | Titan8990 | jhutchins_lt: how lame... |
| 15:46.36 | o2 | ok, was getting confused |
| 15:46.57 | o2 | so that one has no ip |
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| 15:47.21 | jhutchins_lt | o2: It's entirely possible that the AP is bad. |
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| 15:47.24 | dutchfish | o2: running tcpdump should reveal the arp requests and replys when on wired |
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| 15:48.08 | Titan8990 | or that your on 192.168.0.0 and the AP is on 192.168.1.0 |
| 15:48.26 | o2 | no iam on 53 |
| 15:48.36 | o2 | on .1.53 |
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| 15:49.08 | o2 | ahh, ok, i see |
| 15:49.09 | vasilis | http://vasilisgreece.blogspot.com |
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| 15:49.33 | dutchfish | o2: the easiest way is to default that apliance asuming it will do dhcp to the wired net, then its easy to get its default gateway |
| 15:49.33 | o2 | but the default ip of the ap is 1.245 |
| 15:50.33 | o2 | dutchfish: sorry, i'm not really getting what you want to say. |
| 15:51.44 | jhutchins_lt | o2: dhclient eth0 |
| 15:51.53 | dutchfish | o2: the apliance in its default state will probably honour dhcp request |
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| 15:52.07 | o2 | ok |
| 15:52.15 | jhutchins_lt | I don't remember if they do DHCP for the wired port or not. |
| 15:52.24 | dutchfish | yes |
| 15:52.43 | o2 | no nmap again? |
| 15:52.46 | o2 | now |
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| 15:53.40 | dutchfish | goes slient now not to confuse more |
| 15:55.02 | dutchfish | s/slient/silent |
| 15:55.14 | o2 | ok, the device is not found by nmap |
| 15:55.29 | o2 | maybe it's really broken |
| 15:56.56 | o2 | ok, one more question: why don't i need to use a cross over cable to connect the ap to my switch? |
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| 15:57.53 | o2 | i mean, isn't that like connecting to machines, when i conenct the ap to the switch? |
| 15:58.11 | Titan8990 | no, its like connecting a machine to a switch |
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| 15:58.57 | jhutchins_lt | Most modern switches will auto-sense the connections. If you get a link light, you're ok. |
| 15:58.57 | dutchfish | o2: 192.168.1.245 is the default gw |
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| 15:59.03 | o2 | yes, i just tried to undestand that |
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| 15:59.08 | ngomes | hello |
| 15:59.10 | jhutchins_lt | The WAP is designed for a normal connection, you would need a crossover if you went direct from the PC. |
| 15:59.31 | o2 | dutchfish: how do you know that? |
| 15:59.38 | ngomes | someone can tell me why cant i install linux-headers-2.6.32-trunk-686 ? |
| 15:59.49 | ngomes | its says not found on repos |
| 15:59.59 | Titan8990 | ngomes: aptitude update; its not there anymore |
| 16:00.02 | Titan8990 | judd: versions kernel |
| 16:00.03 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'kernel' was found. |
| 16:00.09 | Titan8990 | judd: kernels |
| 16:00.11 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.33-2-686 (2.6.33-1~experimental.3); sid: 2.6.32-4-686 (2.6.32-10); squeeze: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.2-686 (2.6.32-8~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-21lenny4); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 16:00.28 | Titan8990 | ngomes: -trunk was dropped from the name, you need to upgrade your kernel too |
| 16:00.39 | o2 | dutchfish: linksys says: When the browser opens, go to the "Address" bar and input the IP address of the Access Point. |
| 16:00.47 | ngomes | i did aptitude update , safe-upgrade and wont install me 2.6.32-4 ! |
| 16:00.55 | babilen | ngomes: You can also just install linux-image-2.6-<ARCH> |
| 16:01.00 | o2 | and this is 192.168.1.245 |
| 16:01.05 | Titan8990 | ngomes: what happens when you try? |
| 16:01.13 | o2 | i read that here: http://www1.linksys.com/support/troubleshoot/wireless/access_point_config/ssid.html |
| 16:01.20 | ngomes | safe-upgrade didnt choose that package to update |
| 16:01.24 | babilen | ngomes: That package depends on the package that provides the lates kernel - or just install linux-image-2.6.32-3-amd64 |
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| 16:01.44 | Titan8990 | ngomes: then you don't have the kernel meta package installed and will need to select the right kernel manually or do what babilen said |
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| 16:02.19 | Titan8990 | !testing |
| 16:02.19 | dpkg | it has been said that testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <squeeze>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <lenny->squeeze> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging to use testing and should be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on ... |
| 16:02.24 | ngomes | ill try , moment |
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| 16:05.16 | dutchfish | maybe your replaced switch does support Gbit and your cables not? |
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| 16:07.07 | flo|linux | ARGH |
| 16:07.12 | flo|linux | i installed it to /usr/local now |
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| 16:07.16 | flo|linux | i started it |
| 16:07.25 | flo|linux | and: it tells me tzhat there's |
| 16:07.30 | flo|linux | no cd drive |
| 16:07.39 | babilen | !enter |
| 16:07.39 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 16:07.52 | flo|linux | babilen, sry, i hit it by mistake ;) |
| 16:07.58 | flo|linux | i don't know that keyboard ^^ |
| 16:08.07 | babilen | hehe |
| 16:08.24 | flo|linux | but _why_ does the selfcompiled brasero not see my cd drive |
| 16:08.31 | Bohemian | can nano find and replace text? |
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| 16:10.07 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: find yes, replace, no... nano is very simplistic. you should use emacs or vim |
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| 16:10.51 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: nano is good for simple edits but you should get used to a _real_ text editor |
| 16:11.27 | Bohemian | i tried emacs but couldn't figure out how to replace the text, it annoyed me so i got rid of it. i heard vi is pretty difficult... |
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| 16:13.07 | babilen | Bohemian: Not really - it takes some time to get used to (just like emacs), but knowing the basics of either vim or emacs is an essential skill. |
| 16:14.03 | Bohemian | okay |
| 16:14.04 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: you have to spend time to learn how to use them. emacs has excellent built-in documentation |
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| 16:14.08 | Bohemian | i'll put it on the list |
| 16:14.48 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: e.g. to find documentation for "replace": M-x apropos[RET] replace[RET] |
| 16:15.11 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: that will show you all commands/functions that match "replace" along with documentation on what they do |
| 16:15.38 | Bohemian | thx |
| 16:15.46 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: what your looking for is either: M-x replace-string or M-x replace-regex |
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| 16:16.04 | Titan8990 | Bohemian: and all those things are tab-completable |
| 16:16.09 | babilen | Bohemian: Just open the file in vim, do ":s/search/replace/g<ENTER>:x" and you are done |
| 16:16.16 | Bohemian | :) |
| 16:16.24 | Titan8990 | !start an editor war |
| 16:16.24 | dpkg | xemacs is known to repel members of your preferred sex |
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| 16:16.43 | babilen | Titan8990: exactly my thought :) |
| 16:17.01 | Titan8990 | babilen: mine too |
| 16:17.09 | Titan8990 | uses GNU Emacs, not xemacs |
| 16:17.23 | dmi3on | hi all i need to setup mail server on debian 50-500 i dont know what servers are really good |
| 16:17.40 | Titan8990 | dmi3on: 50-500 users? |
| 16:18.03 | Bohemian | babilen: search=xyz of what i'm looking for, replace=what to put there? what if i just want it left blank, no space or anything? |
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| 16:18.28 | babilen | Bohemian: "s/xyz//g" |
| 16:18.37 | Bohemian | thanks |
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| 16:22.44 | dmi3on | Titan8990, 50-500 mailbox's |
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| 16:23.27 | ngomes | anyone uses nvidia-legacy-96xx with debian sid here ? |
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| 16:23.45 | ngomes | i cant compile with module assistant |
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| 16:24.26 | AivariuX | Hello, Is posible to resset all debian packets and setings? |
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| 16:25.40 | Titan8990 | dmi3on: exim4 is the default MTA for debian. If this is your first Linux email server, your in for a rough ride, especially if don't already have a strong knowledge of SMTP |
| 16:26.04 | Titan8990 | dmi3on: stay away from qmail and sendmail and you will be fine :) |
| 16:26.08 | Titan8990 | !start a mta war |
| 16:26.09 | dpkg | postfix systems are liable to be r00ted. |
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| 16:26.18 | pipeline | dmi3on: e-mail hosting is really a hell of a challenge on any platform. If you can afford to have anyone else host it, that's probably your best bet. |
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| 16:26.35 | pipeline | dmi3on: AT THE VERY LEAST you want to have a smarthost, i.e. someone else to handle outbound mail. |
| 16:26.37 | jeremyb1 | Hi ! |
| 16:26.42 | petemc | google do it for free |
| 16:26.47 | pipeline | dmi3on: managing a fully operational internet mail site is a real pain in the ass |
| 16:26.48 | ngomes | Titan8990, can u help me build the nvidia-legacy-.96xx driver |
| 16:26.49 | ngomes | ? |
| 16:26.51 | pipeline | petemc: you mean $50 per seat per year |
| 16:26.52 | Titan8990 | outsourcing email is cheap... but you, the admin, lose control of the system |
| 16:27.01 | petemc | pipeline: no, i mean free |
| 16:27.09 | jeremyb1 | where is the xorg.conf file, my X server does not start |
| 16:27.13 | pipeline | Titan8990: not necessarily; hosting your own mailboxes is a lot easier and safer than hosting your own smtp mail per se |
| 16:27.15 | AivariuX | Can some one can help for me with my debian server please? |
| 16:27.16 | liable | wtf |
| 16:27.21 | Titan8990 | petemc: its only free for non-profit orgs IIRC |
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| 16:27.23 | pipeline | petemc: google domains is only free for individuals, not businesses. |
| 16:27.23 | liable | what caused dpkg to say that.. |
| 16:27.27 | ngomes | jeremyb1, /etc/xorg/xorg.conf |
| 16:27.29 | petemc | you can use GAFYD for free |
| 16:27.38 | jeremyb1 | ngomes thanks |
| 16:27.39 | petemc | up to 50 users |
| 16:28.07 | Titan8990 | petemc: and if that free service goes away? what happens to all your company email? would you trust your company's email with somehting like that? |
| 16:28.18 | petemc | yes |
| 16:28.28 | spersaud | petemc: you're in england aye ? |
| 16:28.35 | petemc | northern ireland |
| 16:28.53 | spersaud | so what did you do for st. patrick's day ? |
| 16:28.58 | petemc | nada |
| 16:29.08 | petemc | i use premier edition for work, but have set up a few small businesses with the free version |
| 16:29.14 | dmi3on | Titan8990, exim4 have webmail addon |
| 16:29.15 | spersaud | :) just messing with ya |
| 16:29.24 | petemc | :) |
| 16:29.32 | dmi3on | i have dreamhost account i need to forward all mail to office server |
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| 16:29.38 | dmi3on | for backup and archiving |
| 16:29.48 | dmi3on | dont whant to pay for exhcnage server |
| 16:29.54 | Titan8990 | dmi3on: webmail is not dependant on the MTA. squirrelmail will work with any SMTP or sendmail replacement MTA |
| 16:29.55 | AivariuX | I very need help with debian server please |
| 16:30.02 | dmi3on | so my only option is to setup linux based |
| 16:30.07 | dmi3on | and i love opne source ;) |
| 16:30.22 | babilen | AivariuX: Just ask your question/detail your problem/give relevant output/... |
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| 16:30.38 | Titan8990 | dmi3on: probably don't need a full-blown MTA for that |
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| 16:31.01 | AivariuX | babilen, I need to fix mysql: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) |
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| 16:31.35 | Titan8990 | dmi3on: combination of procmail, fetchmail, a limited MTA that forwards to a smarthost, and a POP/IMAP daemon |
| 16:32.11 | dmi3on | i fill now i need to read more before asking any question |
| 16:32.17 | Titan8990 | dmi3on: although, if your only doing archiving, you don't really need a POP/IMAP daemon |
| 16:32.18 | dutchfish | AivariuX: then use a password ie mysql -p [your password] ? |
| 16:32.19 | dmi3on | or i will sound stupid lol |
| 16:33.01 | AivariuX | Then i try use only "mysql" |
| 16:33.04 | dmi3on | in office 50+ users and remote users also, barracuda spam firewall and mail archiver will be connected to linux server |
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| 16:33.27 | dmi3on | i am not sure from were to start and what to use for it since never set it up before |
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| 16:33.50 | superlinux | hi. how can I open a dmg file? it's associated with Mac OS X |
| 16:34.05 | superlinux | .. of course using Linux |
| 16:34.11 | Titan8990 | dmi3on: I don't understand why you need more than just the archiver... what additional functionality besides archiving do you need to provide? |
| 16:34.12 | AivariuX | Its a mac program :) |
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| 16:34.50 | dutchfish | AivariuX: its the same on mac |
| 16:34.50 | dmi3on | mail must be archived acording to sec 17a and 17b rules |
| 16:34.50 | AivariuX | I think here nothing like wine, but for mac emulation. |
| 16:35.27 | isfranc | when i can find all host in 192.168.10.0/24 ? ping can make this ? |
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| 16:35.35 | dmi3on | anti spam i need to not to have gabidge in archiver |
| 16:35.48 | jhutchins_lt | Actually, what squirrelmail needs is a IMAP server, not SMTP. |
| 16:35.54 | dmi3on | its also requered |
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| 16:36.10 | dmi3on | all messages must be stored for at list 6 years |
| 16:36.16 | dmi3on | with remote backup |
| 16:36.30 | dmi3on | only problem i have what linux mail server i should use :) |
| 16:37.13 | Titan8990 | dmi3on: thats the easy part... the hard part sounds like: STORING RECORDS IN A NON-REWRITEABLE, NON-ERASABLE MANNER FOR A SPECIFIED PERIOD |
| 16:37.53 | ngomes | isfranc, ping -b |
| 16:37.54 | Titan8990 | you can sticky the dir for non-erasable... but I am not sure how you would make it so that they could not be modified.... |
| 16:37.56 | dmi3on | WORM media drive is best |
| 16:38.22 | dmi3on | they dont say when to store it |
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| 16:38.38 | dmi3on | so you can back up all mails once a week to a drive |
| 16:38.39 | dmi3on | :) |
| 16:38.44 | giles | Is there a irc channel for discussions about asciidoc? |
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| 16:39.28 | topo- | hi |
| 16:39.32 | giles | yo |
| 16:40.13 | topo- | giles sh |
| 16:40.22 | babilen | giles: Don't know - but there is http://groups.google.com/group/asciidoc |
| 16:40.44 | jhutchins_lt | dmi3on: Then you can physically destroy the media at the end of the retention period. |
| 16:40.56 | keith4 | any chance someone knows how to get the 3ware raid snmp agent working in debian? it seems to not like the net-snmp that's in lenny |
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| 16:41.13 | keith4 | when I try to load the module for it, snmpd refuses: dlopen failed: /usr/lib/amcc9000RaidSnmp/1.00.00.008B/amccRaidMIB.so: undefined symbol: netsnmp_container_table_row_extract |
| 16:41.58 | jhutchins_lt | keith4: That error suggests that the module is compiled for a different kernel. |
| 16:42.17 | isfranc | ngomes: thanks, man is not too much explicit |
| 16:42.20 | giles | does anyone know how to create a single page output in pdf format from asciidoc, or docbook/ |
| 16:42.29 | keith4 | jhutchins_lt: well, crap |
| 16:42.30 | giles | i.e. whithout the contents page |
| 16:43.08 | jhutchins_lt | giles: Print it to a PDF pseudo-printer? |
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| 16:43.49 | jhutchins_lt | keith4: Do they supply the source for the driver? |
| 16:44.24 | keith4 | jhutchins_lt: un-freakin-likely |
| 16:44.59 | dutchfish | http://www.3ware.com/kb/Article.aspx?id=12690 |
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| 16:45.28 | keith4 | jhutchins_lt: ah, turns out it's a FAQ though. http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=15596 |
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| 16:45.52 | jhutchins_lt | Puzzled why you'd need a driver for SNMP. |
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| 16:49.17 | keith4 | jhutchins_lt: i was expecting it to be a subagent/AgentX thing... but it's apparently a loadable module to let snmpd talk directly to the 3ware card...? not sure |
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| 16:50.17 | keith4 | jhutchins_lt: regardless, the results aren't exactly promising: http://pastebin.com/T4vRtLvH |
| 16:51.39 | dutchfish | keith4: http://www.kb.open-e.com/Can-I-get-information-about-SNMP-on-3Ware-adapters-and-Open-E_822.html |
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| 16:52.44 | keith4 | dutchfish: right. see my pastebin |
| 16:53.06 | dutchfish | keith4: ... supported methods *get* not walk |
| 16:53.14 | keith4 | facepalms |
| 16:53.30 | jelly | thou shalt not snmpwalk |
| 16:53.34 | keith4 | seriously? |
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| 16:53.42 | keith4 | what kind of idiots developed this? |
| 16:54.14 | dutchfish | keith4: unless you install the right mib on the client ;) |
| 16:54.31 | keith4 | dutchfish: i have the mib... it's in the debian package |
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| 16:55.09 | dutchfish | keith4: you checked its the right one as the one mentioned in the link i gave? |
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| 16:55.39 | Xunie | Somehow I can't get this movie to play, I'm running Debian Lenny, I got everything updated, I've installed the binary codecs with /usr/share/mplayer/scripts/binary_codecs.sh, and mplayer still says "Codec error: use windows media player". |
| 16:55.48 | keith4 | dutchfish: it's in this package: http://www.3ware.com/KB/article.aspx?id=15596 |
| 16:56.14 | Titan8990 | !win32codecs |
| 16:56.15 | dpkg | w32codecs is a <non-free> package not distributed by Debian due to legal issues. The package provides codecs for several multimedia formats, such as DivX ;-), RealAudio/RealVideo, and Windows Media. To get w32codecs, ask me about <debian-multimedia>. If you are looking for similar plugins for gstreamer, then look at the gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg-full packages. |
| 16:56.21 | dutchfish | keith4: use the one from article 10438 |
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| 16:56.34 | Titan8990 | Xunie: need to install win32codecs from dmm |
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| 16:56.56 | keith4 | dutchfish: it's identical. i just diff'd them |
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| 16:57.05 | Xunie | 'dmm'? |
| 16:57.08 | dutchfish | keith4: ok |
| 16:57.15 | Titan8990 | !tell Xunie about dmm |
| 16:57.34 | isfranc | ping -b no find doc, use nmap 192.168.10,.0-255 for find machines |
| 16:57.43 | superlinux | thanks i found it |
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| 16:58.11 | dutchfish | keith4: i have ot test this myself, but i only use get for the stuff i need (more efficient anyway) |
| 16:58.27 | keith4 | right. i was just going to walk it to see what's available |
| 16:58.46 | dutchfish | keith4: use a mib browser ;) |
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| 16:59.09 | keith4 | dutchfish: how will that help me find out which things come back as "UNKNOWN" or not, as in the pastebin? |
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| 16:59.49 | dutchfish | keith4: it shouldnt, if you use the right driver with the right module on the right kernel |
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| 17:00.54 | dutchfish | keith4: i never had problems with them up from debian etch to squeeze |
| 17:01.09 | keith4 | this is lenny, on 2.6.26-1-xen-686 |
| 17:01.40 | dutchfish | keith4: use 2.6.18 XD on dom-0 |
| 17:02.04 | keith4 | not an option. it's a long story |
| 17:02.26 | dutchfish | or compile your own from mercurial |
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| 17:03.54 | dutchfish | but i would seriously recommend 2.6.18-xen on dom-0 for this issue |
| 17:04.56 | dutchfish | till the devs have a better stable (kernel/xen dependant) in a future release |
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| 17:06.56 | dutchfish | for dom-U its a whole other cup of tea |
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| 17:07.49 | km0ti0n | what source do I need for unrar-nonfree? |
| 17:07.59 | schmack | who are using psad? |
| 17:08.12 | schmack | can someone to paste me /etc/default/grub or send me, please? |
| 17:09.02 | valdyn | schmack: get it yourself, its not hard |
| 17:09.04 | valdyn | !confmiss |
| 17:09.04 | dpkg | The reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>; |
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| 17:10.55 | schmack | no |
| 17:10.58 | schmack | error! |
| 17:11.16 | schmack | valdyn: i mean psad |
| 17:11.17 | schmack | :))) |
| 17:11.24 | schmack | i need /etc/default/psad |
| 17:11.41 | valdyn | schmack: same deal |
| 17:11.47 | schmack | no |
| 17:12.03 | schmack | apt-get doesn';t create the psad in /default maybe its a bug |
| 17:12.15 | schmack | spersaud: sorry i mean psad:) did u have /etc/default/psad ? |
| 17:12.21 | schmack | spersaud: Mr. ? |
| 17:12.27 | spersaud | haha no |
| 17:12.47 | schmack | spersaud: try apt-get install psad them apt-get remove psad |
| 17:12.58 | schmack | and send me if u want of course |
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| 17:13.04 | Robuster | hello |
| 17:13.32 | Robuster | how can i downgrade from php5.3 to php5.2 using apt-get? |
| 17:13.42 | wols_ | !downgrade |
| 17:13.42 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
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| 17:13.57 | dutchfish | schmack: psad: /etc/psad/psad.conf |
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| 17:14.30 | schmack | dutchfish: yes but there is a file in /etc/default/psad for system startup but i delete it and i cant restore it... |
| 17:14.39 | themill | dpkg: tell Robuster about php5.3 |
| 17:14.41 | valdyn | schmack: dpkg told you how to restore it |
| 17:14.55 | schmack | valdyn: yes but doesn't restore it |
| 17:15.03 | schmack | where? |
| 17:15.04 | schmack | aaa dpkg |
| 17:15.04 | valdyn | schmack: that does it. |
| 17:15.17 | schmack | ?!?! |
| 17:15.33 | dutchfish | schmack: because there isnt one in the package |
| 17:15.47 | valdyn | not in lenny anyway |
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| 17:15.58 | dutchfish | and not in squeeze either |
| 17:16.00 | valdyn | !tell schmack -about search |
| 17:16.38 | babilen | !tell schmack -about apt-file |
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| 17:18.02 | schmack | apt-file? :) |
| 17:18.08 | schmack | heh i never know that before |
| 17:18.15 | wols_ | schmack: did you purge psad and reinstall it? |
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| 17:19.03 | schmack | wols_: yes |
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| 17:19.25 | \ottizen | Hello. I installed Cherokee 0.7 from the Debian package manager. I wanted 0.99, so I found a .deb-file and tried that. When I run that, I got this. Where is that file located? |
| 17:19.28 | \ottizen | http://pastebin.com/xigCUiQ1 |
| 17:20.00 | valdyn | \ottizen: you cant just use random .deb files |
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| 17:20.04 | schmack | apt-file update tells me |
| 17:20.07 | schmack | Can't get http://security.debian.org/dists/lenny/updates/Contents-amd64.gz |
| 17:20.09 | wols_ | \ottizen: same place you got the .deb file from probably. |
| 17:20.13 | wols_ | ,versions cherokee |
| 17:20.14 | judd | cherokee -- etch: 0.5.5.dfsg-2; lenny: 0.7.2-4; sid: 0.99.43-1; squeeze: 0.99.43-1 |
| 17:20.27 | dutchfish | schmack: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=409815 |
| 17:20.33 | wols_ | \ottizen: if you mix stable and testing, BAD things happen |
| 17:20.36 | \ottizen | wols_: Okey. So, version 0.99 is in the package manager? |
| 17:20.37 | wols_ | !t5ell \ottizen about ssb |
| 17:20.47 | babilen | !tell \ottizen -about ssb |
| 17:20.49 | \ottizen | wols_: I know, but I've removed the 0.77-version. |
| 17:21.13 | wols_ | \ottizen: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 17:21.13 | babilen | \ottizen: Try to backport it yourself. dpkg just told you how to do that. |
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| 17:21.21 | \ottizen | thanks |
| 17:21.35 | \ottizen | wols_: Moment, I'm updating atm, so I can't execute any other commands. :/ |
| 17:21.41 | jhutchins_lt | wols_: Is it worse to mix stable and testing than to just run testing? |
| 17:21.49 | \ottizen | Now! |
| 17:21.52 | \ottizen | wols_: 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 17:21.56 | wols_ | objorn: debian is a multitasking OS, so yes you can executa all other commands |
| 17:21.57 | babilen | jhutchins_lt: yes |
| 17:22.22 | \ottizen | wols_: Yes, but then I need to open a new SSH-window. |
| 17:22.34 | valdyn | \ottizen: omg! |
| 17:22.55 | babilen | the horrors! |
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| 17:23.11 | babilen | \ottizen: Take a look at screen ;) |
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| 17:23.29 | \ottizen | Seems like it's installed now. |
| 17:23.37 | jhutchins_lt | wols_: Even on a multitasking system, an update can put a pretty heavy load on a system, make it not worth trying to do other things. |
| 17:23.37 | \ottizen | Don't know how to check the version though. |
| 17:23.47 | \ottizen | cherokee -V worked before, but not anymore. |
| 17:23.52 | \ottizen | Maybe it's removed in 0.99. |
| 17:24.12 | \ottizen | Check: http://jennie.kottnet.net <-- It's up! :) |
| 17:24.28 | \ottizen | I think it's the new version. |
| 17:24.36 | \ottizen | The web admin looks like the new one, thank you all! |
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| 17:26.18 | wols_ | jhutchins_lt: my 486 could do uname -a while upgrading packages |
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| 17:26.36 | Robuster | Linux localhost 2.6.32-trunk-686-bigmem #1 SMP Sun Jan 10 07:12:17 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 17:26.51 | Robuster | for this i should install libapache2-mod-php5_5.2.0-11_i386.deb? |
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| 17:28.24 | SRP | Hey |
| 17:28.40 | SRP | You guys were totally right it really *** |
| 17:28.42 | SRP | !webmin |
| 17:28.42 | dpkg | webmin is probably a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html about the removal. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. |
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| 17:32.20 | antivirtel | hello |
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| 17:33.46 | flo` | hi |
| 17:33.52 | flo` | i'm running debian lenny with xfce |
| 17:33.58 | flo` | when i download a .tar.bz2 file, firefox doesn't offer me to open it with squeeze... |
| 17:34.03 | flo` | when i install a new program, files that were previously unassociatd aren't associaed to that program |
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| 17:34.09 | flo` | is there i way to set up all those default apps? |
| 17:34.26 | flo` | ideally automatically? |
| 17:34.48 | flo` | even f i choose "open containing folder" in firefox, it asks me which program i want to use for it ._. |
| 17:35.23 | Titan8990 | flo`: XFCE is limited in its "default" applications. settings -> preferred applications. anything else you must select open with in thunar and checkbox "make this the default" |
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| 17:36.21 | flo` | isn't there some global or per-user config file whic file should be opened with some progra? |
| 17:36.22 | flo` | m |
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| 17:36.44 | Robuster | when i'm using apt-get install php5=someversion, how can i see what versions are available? |
| 17:37.14 | wols_ | Robuster: generally, there is only one available |
| 17:37.36 | wols_ | if you get a version from another branch of debian, your installation will break. beyond repair |
| 17:37.49 | wols_ | to check what is available: apt-cache policy <package> |
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| 17:39.38 | valdyn | for some reason new /etc/mime.types is nearly empty |
| 17:40.06 | valdyn | flo`: /etc/mailcap and /etc/mime.types and ~/.mailcap and ~/.mime.types |
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| 17:43.50 | charzero | Does anybody other than Lenovo make a laptop with a clit mouse and 3 mouse buttons? |
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| 17:43.56 | leoncamel | hey, folks, I got a problem while installing a debian 5.04. It can't find ethernet driver for my Intel 82578DC ethernet controller. |
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| 17:44.11 | leoncamel | any suggestion for this problem ? thanks in advance. |
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| 17:44.21 | valdyn | !lmuto |
| 17:44.23 | valdyn | !kmuto |
| 17:44.24 | dpkg | For Debian Lenny installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ . The <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files for Linux 2.6.32 are included in 0116 images. |
| 17:44.27 | valdyn | leoncamel: ^^ |
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| 17:45.18 | bosyak | It's ok to install java like this? apt-get install sun-java6-jdk |
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| 17:45.30 | Titan8990 | !why aptitude |
| 17:45.31 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). |
| 17:45.46 | Titan8990 | bosyak: use aptitude, but yes, don't forget to run update-java-alternatives |
| 17:45.56 | leoncamel | valdyn: OK, thanks. BTW, what is the difference between kmuto with the official one ? |
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| 17:47.14 | Titan8990 | leoncamel: kmuto has a newer kernel |
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| 17:48.13 | leoncamel | Titan8990: OK. |
| 17:48.39 | antivirtel | !why apt-get |
| 17:49.01 | bosyak | Titan8990: thanks. |
| 17:49.04 | Titan8990 | !why not aptitude |
| 17:49.04 | dpkg | Many never use the curses-based frontend but it is still in the binary, and it is more memory intensive and slower than apt-get. Now that many features of aptitude are also in libapt and used by apt-get as well, the differences between the two have reduced. Aptitude is still the easiest way of working your way out of tight spots when running sid or upgrading between releases, however. Ask me about <why aptitude>. |
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| 17:49.16 | antivirtel | aptitude is better than apt-get ? :O |
| 17:49.18 | HentaiJess | 'mornin y'all |
| 17:49.36 | Titan8990 | antivirtel: yes, it a superior front-end to apt |
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| 17:50.42 | bosyak | Hm... it's look old java in debian repository... |
| 17:51.03 | flo` | is there a way to query the packages for unneeded ones? |
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| 17:51.24 | flo` | i.e., packages i didn't install explicitely and that aren't needed by other packages? |
| 17:51.28 | antivirtel | Titan8990 what is is: "front-end" , |
| 17:52.12 | babilen | flo`: aptitude will remove those by default - with apt-get you'll have to do "apt-get autoremove" |
| 17:52.13 | themill | flo`: aptitude and apt-get do that automagically for you |
| 17:52.25 | flo` | wow. cool =) |
| 17:52.38 | flo` | and how about packages installed by build-dep? |
| 17:52.52 | flo` | after the build, i don't need them any more obviously |
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| 17:53.12 | themill | flo`: they are considered to be manually installed (but their dependencies are still automatically installed) |
| 17:53.22 | arvind_khadri | !tell arvind_khadri about rtems |
| 17:53.30 | project2501a | anybody got a clue what FlexLexer.h is? |
| 17:53.33 | wols_ | !tell arvind_khadri about selftell |
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| 17:53.39 | flo` | argh |
| 17:53.40 | Robuster | Linux localhost 2.6.32-trunk-686-bigmem #1 SMP Sun Jan 10 07:12:17 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 17:53.42 | Robuster | is this x86? |
| 17:53.47 | wols_ | project2501a: a header file? for a lexical parser? like flex? |
| 17:53.47 | arvind_khadri | wols_, sorry |
| 17:53.48 | flo` | is it possible that debian is not good for developers? |
| 17:53.49 | project2501a | Robuster: yeah |
| 17:54.00 | project2501a | wols_: looks like it. maybe i need to install flex-dev. |
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| 17:54.10 | themill | flo`: what makes you say that? |
| 17:54.10 | babilen | flo`: What gives you that impression? |
| 17:54.12 | wols_ | project2501a: read up on apt-file and stike this "maybe" |
| 17:54.24 | flo` | my experiences with compiling brasero |
| 17:54.28 | flo` | in arch it was so much easier. no -dev extra packages (libfoo contained libfoo-devel) |
| 17:54.29 | project2501a | wols_: to be doink, comrade. |
| 17:54.50 | flo` | up-to-date packages which didn't conflict with brasero's requirements |
| 17:54.58 | flo` | (gtk 2.14 vs 2.12.12) |
| 17:55.10 | themill | flo`: having the extra crap installed all the time for everything is hardly an advantage |
| 17:55.12 | wols_ | flo`: just cause you can type "configure;make;make install" doesn't make you a developer. far from it |
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| 17:55.57 | flo` | wols_, i know. but when you do nice thingys to the code before making it, you get nearer |
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| 17:56.19 | flo` | for example when trying to fix some awful bug in brasero that efficiently prevents me from copying a disk ._. |
| 17:56.24 | project2501a | FOTHERMUCKERS |
| 17:56.33 | project2501a | ... |
| 17:56.37 | flo` | wtf? |
| 17:56.57 | project2501a | wols_: apparently the dev "forgot" to mention in the README that "you should install flex" |
| 17:57.09 | project2501a | flo` sorry, i just hate inadequate developers |
| 17:57.36 | keith4 | dutchfish: thanks for your help |
| 17:57.46 | flo` | project2501a, is it better if they don't write that "crap" at all? |
| 17:57.53 | babilen | flo`: Have you filed a bug report? It is also quite easy to backport some packages from squeeze/sid (not all though) or to recompile packages |
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| 17:58.07 | flo` | babilen, that bug is known |
| 17:58.17 | flo` | and not fixed in the most recent version -_- |
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| 17:58.27 | babilen | flo`: ok |
| 17:58.39 | flo` | (i already compiled it on my arch machine. that, however, has a broken cd drive which i can't use for tests) |
| 17:58.52 | antivirtel | can I ask, that how can I install debian from that boot.img file? I have copied to an usb stick(500MB, USB 1.0), and in tha boot menu, i could select my usb stick, but it writes: "disk reading error has occurred"... or something like this :) |
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| 17:59.11 | Titan8990 | !usb install |
| 17:59.12 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. (Older, outdated article at http://d-i.pascal.at/). BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 17:59.13 | flo` | when some configure script tells me that it needs a higer lib version... can i simply ignore this (and "fix" the script), or where can i get that new version from? |
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| 18:00.38 | wols_ | flo`: there is no definite answer |
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| 18:01.54 | antivirtel | and it will be a graphical installion ? because I must see a particioner part of setup, like in ubuntu, i have installed ubuntu 10 times, but debian never, so what ?! :D |
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| 18:02.17 | project2501a | flo` : flawed argument. the dev should read up and make his installaction/configure more pleasant to the end user ;) |
| 18:02.36 | flo` | "should"? |
| 18:02.39 | flo` | like in "must"? |
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| 18:02.54 | DogBoy | must? |
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| 18:03.04 | flo` | look: if i write a program that is designed to help _me_ with my problems |
| 18:03.08 | jelly | antivirtel: that .img file is supposed to be copied onto a stick using dd or a similar tool, you've done that? |
| 18:03.12 | flo` | and then i decide to put it online |
| 18:03.13 | themill | flo`: debian maintainers don't tend to put versioned build-deps in just for lulz. |
| 18:03.28 | flo` | isn't that nice enough? do i also have to write a full documentation about it :p? |
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| 18:03.43 | antivirtel | jelly I have copied in total commander the img file :S :$ so it must with a program ? |
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| 18:04.09 | flo` | let's see =) i "fixed" the configure script a bit |
| 18:04.35 | project2501a | flo` : if you are making a bioinformatics program which thousands of people use around the globe, you should be comfortable with autotools |
| 18:04.38 | jelly | antivirtel: you have to write it directly onto the device; I don't know which tool you'd use for that in Windows. Try asking ##windows |
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| 18:04.40 | wols_ | flo`: is this a backport? |
| 18:04.50 | project2501a | right. nevermind: #debian-offtopic for more |
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| 18:05.02 | flo` | project2501a, simply use another program then :p |
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| 18:05.13 | flo` | wols_, what? my brasero-compiling? |
| 18:05.18 | flo` | no it's the most recent version |
| 18:05.27 | flo` | as lenny's version is dead old |
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| 18:05.57 | wols_ | flo`: what version is it? |
| 18:06.05 | flo` | 2.6 iirc |
| 18:06.09 | antivirtel | jelly |
| 18:06.09 | antivirtel | I have an ubuntu in my laptop |
| 18:06.09 | antivirtel | if it can do I go to it :P |
| 18:06.12 | flo` | no |
| 18:06.14 | flo` | 2.26.0 |
| 18:06.24 | jelly | antivirtel: that might work, yes |
| 18:06.27 | wols_ | lart flo` |
| 18:06.30 | wols_ | !lart flo` |
| 18:06.31 | dpkg | calls flo` on the phone ... the lights are on but nobody's home |
| 18:06.39 | antivirtel | XD |
| 18:06.40 | wols_ | dpkg: very good description of him |
| 18:06.40 | dpkg | wols_: are you using Windows? |
| 18:06.43 | flo` | huh? |
| 18:06.51 | antivirtel | jelly I see the dd... :) |
| 18:06.51 | wols_ | ,versions flo` |
| 18:06.51 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'flo`' was found. |
| 18:06.57 | wols_ | ,versions brasero |
| 18:06.58 | judd | brasero -- etch: 0.4.4-4; lenny: 0.8.0-3; squeeze: 2.28.3-2; sid: 2.28.3-3 |
| 18:07.00 | wols_ | see this? |
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| 18:07.01 | jelly | antivirtel: just dd if=boot.img of=/dev/sdX (be careful to write on you usb disk and not some other device!) |
| 18:07.16 | flo` | wtf |
| 18:07.44 | antivirtel | jelly, ok... take some min plz :D |
| 18:07.48 | flo` | then what the gnome page says is a bit outdated ^^ |
| 18:08.04 | jelly | antivirtel: can't, busy |
| 18:08.08 | DogBoy | flo`, what are you even talking about |
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| 18:08.37 | antivirtel | :$ |
| 18:08.37 | arvind_khadri | smells a troll |
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| 18:08.46 | flo` | DogBoy, compiling and hacking around in brasero. |
| 18:09.15 | DogBoy | flo`, what's it got to do with anything |
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| 18:09.47 | wols_ | DogBoy: best don't bother. he doesn't know what he's doing and has no clue about it to boot |
| 18:10.14 | DogBoy | yes I get that but I was wondering if there was even a point |
| 18:10.21 | DogBoy | heh |
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| 18:11.52 | NDU | hi to all |
| 18:11.56 | innociv_ | Is there any reason I should use debian 5 on a server instead of 4? |
| 18:12.19 | wols_ | innociv_: you shouldn't use debian 4 at all |
| 18:12.29 | innociv_ | Why's that? |
| 18:12.40 | NDU | i'm looking for a suggestion about freenx |
| 18:12.43 | wols_ | cause it's EOL and probably has numerous security holes by now |
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| 18:12.53 | NDU | on lenny |
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| 18:13.01 | wols_ | !freenx |
| 18:13.01 | dpkg | FreeNX is a GPL implementation of the <NX> server and client components. There are no FreeNX packages in official Debian repositories, see Debian bug #255850. http://wiki.debian.org/freenx http://freenx.berlios.de/ #nx on irc.freenode.net. |
| 18:13.24 | wols_ | innociv_: you wants debian stable, aka debian 5.0.4 |
| 18:13.40 | innociv_ | Hm shoot. I was going to get a VPS from joe's databcenter and they don't even offer debian 5 or to use your own OS on VPS. For dedicated servers you /can/ install another.. |
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| 18:14.12 | wols_ | always the same with shitty vps' |
| 18:14.24 | flo` | can aptitude's TUI show me only the packages that are no dependencies? |
| 18:14.27 | NDU | @wols: i knew but on ubuntu distribution working fine |
| 18:14.37 | DogBoy | is that a real place? joe's datacenter? |
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| 18:14.40 | flo` | i.e., that can be removed without something else to crash? |
| 18:14.53 | NDU | Anyone have tried on deb? |
| 18:15.00 | wols_ | NDU: we don't care about ubuntu |
| 18:15.16 | wols_ | NDU: you've shown where to go for nx support |
| 18:15.38 | charzero | NDU: I have installed freenx on Debian. The people at #nx helped me do it. |
| 18:15.40 | dutchfish | new is not equiv to better always |
| 18:15.43 | NDU | i cant, i'm on a mobile app |
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| 18:16.15 | antivirtel | jelly how can I see, that what is equal is the X in here: /dev/sdX ? |
| 18:16.25 | innociv_ | wols_, eh people have said joe's datacenter is good. I'm using linode now, but the 1gb of ram one is too expensive. |
| 18:16.32 | innociv_ | Linode allows you to use your own OS on their VPS. |
| 18:16.40 | innociv_ | Any suggestions? |
| 18:16.50 | wols_ | innociv_: suggestions for what? |
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| 18:17.10 | innociv_ | A VPS provider that's good. |
| 18:17.24 | wols_ | innociv_: you are in the wrong channel for that. this is debian support only |
| 18:17.48 | innociv_ | I guess. Don't know where to ask. |
| 18:17.49 | Titan8990 | innociv_: and it sounds like you already found what your looking for |
| 18:17.57 | flo` | is it possible in any way to install a squeeze or sid package in lenny, avoiding unresolvable dependencies? |
| 18:18.04 | NDU | @charzero: i'm a newbie on irc and debian, what's meaning #nx? a Irc channel? |
| 18:18.08 | wols_ | !tell innociv_ about they don't know |
| 18:18.24 | innociv_ | Lmao |
| 18:18.27 | wols_ | NDU: yes a channel. just like #debian is |
| 18:18.37 | Titan8990 | NDU: # denotes the name of a channel. most sane IRC clients will allow you to go to the channel simply my clicking on the name |
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| 18:19.00 | cahoot | like irssi? |
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| 18:19.33 | wols_ | cahoot: I clock on channel tames all the time! |
| 18:19.55 | cahoot | good to hear |
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| 18:20.25 | Titan8990 | cahoot: yeah.. should have specified "gui" since you don't really do any clicking in irssi |
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| 18:20.37 | Titan8990 | cahoot: I highly doubt that guy is using a terminal-based IRC client |
| 18:20.46 | PyroPhelia | What would be the security concerns if I built a script that made all new files on my cluster imuteable after 14 days? |
| 18:21.11 | cahoot | Titan8990: never mind me - was just playing capt obvious |
| 18:21.20 | NDU | righe titan, but my mob app dont let me know on wich server we are. maybe irc.freenode.net? |
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| 18:21.40 | Titan8990 | NDU: get on a PC. if you don't one, buy one |
| 18:21.42 | jelly | antivirtel: use the differences in dmesg output before and after you plug in the stick to see which sdX device it appears as |
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| 18:22.01 | SRP | Titan8990, do you have a link for beginners for setting up your first vps? |
| 18:22.18 | wols_ | NDU: yes you are on irc.freenode.net.now switch the channel to #nx just like you came here |
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| 18:22.58 | Titan8990 | SRP: the refence guide maybe? http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/index.en.html |
| 18:23.03 | NDU | i see only pre registered channel. maybe |
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| 18:24.01 | NDU | ok, i try to do |
| 18:24.06 | NDU | #nx |
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| 18:24.23 | NDU | ... |
| 18:24.38 | Titan8990 | NDU: /join #nx |
| 18:24.41 | NDU | doesn't work |
| 18:25.02 | NDU | /join #nx |
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| 18:25.07 | wols_ | NDU: we cannot debug your irc client. ask whoever made it how to use it, not us |
| 18:25.25 | flo` | how can i make aptitude forget all changes i made so far? |
| 18:25.35 | flo` | (by pressing + or -keys on packages?) |
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| 18:26.44 | SRP | How good is the quality of http://mysql-apache-php.com/ ? |
| 18:26.48 | NDU | @wols: i'm training... i'll wait to arrive @ a real pc |
| 18:27.06 | NDU | thanks to all |
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| 18:27.52 | wols_ | SRP: ask them, not us. all we can say is http://debian.org is better than anything else by a mile |
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| 18:28.02 | keith4 | dutchfish: fwiw, the comment about the sub agent supporting "get" just means that it doesn't support "set" of anythin |
| 18:28.03 | keith4 | g |
| 18:28.13 | Damo | hey what is a site where i can pay and download dvd movies etc? |
| 18:28.32 | icebrain | Damo: that's not a question related to Debian.. |
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| 18:34.01 | dutchfish | keith4: right |
| 18:34.41 | keith4 | oh well. i'm not going to install a... 3? 4? year old kernel just to use this, though |
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| 18:38.01 | OperaFan | Anyone know how to stop spamassin trying to connect to syslog? I don't run a syslog... |
| 18:38.32 | wols_ | *facepalm* |
| 18:38.59 | dutchfish | keith4: http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenDom0Kernels |
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| 18:42.51 | dutchfish | wols_: untrue and i can prove it |
| 18:43.40 | dutchfish | wols_: my mistake forget that line |
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| 18:46.04 | isfranc | after deboostrap exist a default password for root ? :( |
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| 18:47.56 | mooglenorph | How do I figure out what sata drives at attatched to my system? |
| 18:48.09 | mooglenorph | I have one internal drive and one USB drive |
| 18:48.22 | isfranc | lsusb for usb |
| 18:48.45 | mooglenorph | It doesn't seem to give me /dev/sdXN, though? |
| 18:49.09 | isfranc | ho you have sda and adb |
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| 18:49.12 | isfranc | sdb |
| 18:49.18 | YuriAlberto1 | hola.. |
| 18:49.22 | YuriAlberto1 | alguien en español? |
| 18:49.30 | DogBoy | no, english |
| 18:49.35 | mooglenorph | isfranc: oh, okay. thanks. |
| 18:49.59 | isfranc | ho i have usb disk too |
| 18:50.31 | keith4 | dutchfish: and? |
| 18:51.02 | dutchfish | keith4: what i meant is to give you an overview of the curent status and the possibilities you have |
| 18:51.39 | keith4 | the possibilities that i have are to stick with what this is using. e.g., http://packages.debian.org/lenny/xen-linux-system-2.6.26-1-xen-686 |
| 18:52.00 | dutchfish | keith4: but lets finish this up, because it is a bit getting offtopic, ok? |
| 18:52.01 | keith4 | and forgo the 3ware SNMP agent, apparently ;-) |
| 18:52.27 | dutchfish | keith4: you might consult #xen |
| 18:52.43 | keith4 | yah, i will. it's just a shame that they only distribute that as a binary blob |
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| 18:53.03 | keith4 | such is life. again, thanks for your help. i'm throwing in the towel |
| 18:53.15 | isfranc | why i have a default password in my bootstrap ? :( |
| 18:53.30 | dutchfish | keith4: well, you can get the osurces and do it on your own, but anyway good luck |
| 18:53.40 | dutchfish | s/osurces/sources |
| 18:54.41 | mooglenorph | Ugh okay, not to start a religious war or anything, but: I'm on lenny and need to manipulate directories with many small text files in them (hundreds of thousands) |
| 18:54.52 | mooglenorph | what filesystem should I use? |
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| 18:55.16 | mooglenorph | for my dedicated "dataset" hard disk |
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| 18:56.30 | isfranc | mooglenorph: you can tunne ext3 for small block, i think |
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| 18:56.51 | jhutchins_lt | mooglenorph: You might find something useful by googling "filesystem benchmarks", but I'd just use a standard, reliable filesystem like ext3. |
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| 18:58.05 | jhutchins_lt | mooglenorph: Did anybody suggest fdisk -l to see what disks were attached? |
| 18:58.30 | mooglenorph | jhutchins_lt: huh, no. But that's exactly what I wanted, thanks. |
| 18:58.38 | JyZyXEL | how do you trigger the generation of /boot/grub.cfg in debina? |
| 18:58.40 | mooglenorph | Didn't know fdisk had that option. |
| 18:59.04 | YuriAlberto1 | hi to all, somebody in spanish? |
| 18:59.17 | justin | !+es |
| 18:59.18 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 19:00.08 | isfranc | JyZyXEL: update grub2 ? |
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| 19:00.19 | JyZyXEL | update-grub |
| 19:01.06 | eviltoaster | any debian based system like tiny core? |
| 19:01.28 | jhutchins_lt | eviltoaster: Not here, this is debian, not debian-based. |
| 19:01.40 | jhutchins_lt | eviltoaster: Not that we're anti-other-distros, we just know debian. |
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| 19:08.12 | flo` | hi |
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| 19:09.02 | flo` | has aptitude some function to first install some packages, but mark them as "dunno", and if i decide that i don't need them any more, remove them again? |
| 19:09.37 | flo` | would be rather helpful for the following: install build-deps for some package, build it, remove those build-deps again |
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| 19:12.20 | stuckey | I've just connected a new hard drive but it doesn't show up in df |
| 19:12.34 | valdyn | stuckey: so? |
| 19:12.46 | stuckey | valdyn: how do I see how large it is? |
| 19:13.02 | Titan8990 | stuckey: fdisk -l |
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| 19:13.07 | stuckey | I want to transfer my root file system from on hard drive to the new one. |
| 19:13.20 | Titan8990 | stuckey: or mount it first, then run dh |
| 19:13.21 | valdyn | !mount |
| 19:13.21 | dpkg | i guess mount is a command used to mount a device to the local filesystem. `man 8 mount`. See also <reference>, <fstab>. |
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| 19:15.18 | stuckey | I need to set the new drive to /boot? |
| 19:15.28 | stuckey | I want to boot from this drive and have it contain the root filesystem. |
| 19:16.21 | wols_ | stuckey: install or copy your debian first |
| 19:16.38 | Titan8990 | stuckey: so copy all the files to it and edit the appropriate configs to point to the new drive |
| 19:16.44 | Titan8990 | !reinstall grub |
| 19:16.45 | dpkg | See http://wiki.debian.org/GrubRecover http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s07.html. Boot a CD like <grml>, mount your disk read/write, (mount boot partition into your / partition if applicable,) mount -o bind /dev/ /your/root/dev; chroot /your/root; mount -t proc none /proc; grub-install /dev/foo (you may need to edit /etc/mtab and/or /boot/grub/device.map). Also ask me about <fixmbr> <rescue mode> |
| 19:16.49 | Titan8990 | stuckey: and reinstall grub |
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| 19:17.06 | wols_ | stuckey: if you want to remove the old hdd, things are trickier however |
| 19:17.21 | Titan8990 | wols_: why is that? |
| 19:17.33 | valdyn | dd if=olddisk of=newdisk, remove old disk, boot |
| 19:17.39 | valdyn | that might actually work |
| 19:17.41 | Titan8990 | other than the fact that he could accidently boot the wrong drive and not know it |
| 19:17.42 | wols_ | Titan8990: cause 0x81 becomes 0x80 and so on. grub might get angry |
| 19:17.43 | flo` | wtf |
| 19:17.46 | flo` | i have a strange problem |
| 19:17.54 | Titan8990 | wols_: yeah, I always reinstall grub |
| 19:17.56 | flo` | i typed ./configure pref<TAB> |
| 19:18.01 | wols_ | valdyn: yes that works. the fs resizing can be a hassle tho |
| 19:18.09 | flo` | as soon as i pressed tab, it told me about permission denied |
| 19:18.18 | Titan8990 | I did once however boot an old drive a couple weeks after transfer.... It took me a good 15min to figure out why I was missing files |
| 19:18.28 | wols_ | Titan8990: if you reinstall grub while 2 hdds are present, and after reinstalltion remove one, grub usually gets angry |
| 19:18.35 | wols_ | especially since the old disk usually was the first disk |
| 19:18.35 | flo` | ./configure: line 43: conf731.sh: Permission denied |
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| 19:18.48 | JyZyXEL | how do you see from which repo a certain package is? |
| 19:18.59 | valdyn | !permissions |
| 19:18.59 | dpkg | For more information on permissions, read info coreutils 'File Permissions' and http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions or http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html - for even further info see these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_permission and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod, or follow the setuid and setgid links found in the wikipedia pages, or http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions, or <qotd232> |
| 19:19.01 | wols_ | JyZyXEL: apt-cache policy |
| 19:19.03 | valdyn | flo`: ^^ |
| 19:19.03 | stuckey | Titan8990: why do I need to reinstall grub? |
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| 19:19.14 | \ottizen | dpkg: help |
| 19:19.18 | wols_ | stuckey: cause you want to boot frm the new disk |
| 19:19.30 | wols_ | !tell \ottizen about msgthebot |
| 19:19.36 | stuckey | There's no way to tell grub that I'm changing the disk? |
| 19:19.51 | wols_ | xrd zhrtr is: you reinstall it |
| 19:19.54 | flo` | aah... configure was owned by root ;) |
| 19:20.05 | wols_ | *yes there is |
| 19:20.14 | valdyn | stuckey: grub isnt self aware |
| 19:20.24 | wols_ | valdyn: you sure? could've fooled me |
| 19:20.36 | valdyn | thats why im saying it! |
| 19:20.44 | \ottizen | What's the name of the openssl-library? |
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| 19:20.56 | wols_ | \ottizen: libssl |
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| 19:21.06 | \ottizen | thanks |
| 19:21.53 | valdyn | stuckey: the linux device <-> bios device matching is quite fragile, that is an architectural limitation and that is why you need to take special care to get that right |
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| 19:23.14 | stuckey | valdyn: it seems like it might be easier to just use the installer on the new drive. |
| 19:23.43 | Titan8990 | stuckey: possibly |
| 19:23.46 | Titan8990 | !aptitude clone |
| 19:23.46 | dpkg | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>. <debian clone> |
| 19:23.58 | valdyn | stuckey: sure thats easier as you dont need to know about all those things |
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| 19:24.07 | Titan8990 | has had *too* much practice restoring backups |
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| 19:24.26 | flo` | Titan8990, you could do it like my father: |
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| 19:24.43 | flo` | save your backup to a HD your son (=me) told you will die soon |
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| 19:25.01 | Titan8990 | hehe |
| 19:25.08 | flo` | i was right. 40 minutes (after a reinstallation of windows) the harddisk had a headcrash (i think so) |
| 19:25.19 | mooglenorph | That's... odd, I'm on lenny but the command mkfs.ext4 is available? |
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| 19:25.35 | stuckey | judd: versions rtorrent |
| 19:25.37 | flo` | at least, it's head was dangling somewhere aroun =) |
| 19:25.37 | judd | rtorrent -- etch: 0.6.4-1; lenny: 0.7.9-2.2; sid: 0.8.6-1; squeeze: 0.8.6-1 |
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| 19:26.52 | stuckey | what is stable now? suqeeze? |
| 19:27.00 | stockholm | no, lenny |
| 19:27.02 | flo` | lenny |
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| 19:28.19 | Titan8990 | mooglenorph: install e2fsprogs |
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| 19:29.42 | FinnTux | anyone using cgroups? lenny + 2.6.32 from backports |
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| 19:30.59 | FinnTux | if I bind a PID to a certain group I can not change it to any other group |
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| 19:32.21 | adb | FinnTux, i dunno what's cgroups , but i seen on #debian-kernel something discussed about it , maybe ask there |
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| 19:32.37 | FinnTux | adb, ok, thanks |
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| 19:32.51 | adb | yw |
| 19:33.48 | FinnTux | hmm, can't join. forwards me to ##debian-kernel |
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| 19:34.22 | adb | on oftc |
| 19:34.31 | adb | !oftc |
| 19:34.31 | dpkg | OFTC is the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net. You may be connected to OFTC's network. http://www.oftc.net/ See also <freenode>, <oftc move> and <fact sharing>. |
| 19:34.34 | FinnTux | right |
| 19:34.44 | FinnTux | just noticed |
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| 19:37.42 | OperaFan | is the Spamassassin razor project dead? The posts imply on the sf site it is.. Does than mean it's a waste of time using the plugin? |
| 19:37.58 | jhutchins_lt | Perhaps frenode##debian-kernel should have a note about oftc in the topic. |
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| 19:45.23 | stuckey | Is something wrong with this: http://paste.debian.net/64891/ |
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| 19:47.27 | petemc | stuckey: tried deleting the partitions with fdisk? |
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| 19:49.33 | stuckey | I'm trying to use a usb stick as installation media. |
| 19:49.39 | stuckey | debian:/home/stuckey# syslinux /dev/sdb1 |
| 19:49.39 | stuckey | /dev/sdb1: No such file or directory |
| 19:49.41 | stuckey | I get that |
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| 19:53.17 | wols_ | stuckey: fdisk -l |
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| 19:54.29 | wols_ | stuckey: you don't make fiulesystem on a disk, you make them on partitions. |
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| 19:54.56 | ElDiabolo | Is there a way to exclude a card from usage (by the kernel) by its pci bus id? |
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| 19:55.11 | wols_ | stuckey: you now destroyed all partitions on that stick and have to repartition |
| 19:55.24 | wols_ | !tell ElDiabolo about blacklist |
| 19:55.33 | stuckey | wols_: no, it was like that when I first plugged it in. |
| 19:55.36 | stuckey | How do I go about doing this? |
| 19:55.43 | wols_ | stuckey: no it was not |
| 19:55.52 | stuckey | wols_: How do you know it wasn't? |
| 19:56.06 | jhutchins_lt | wols_: USB sticks are the exception to the partition rule. |
| 19:56.08 | wols_ | cause usb stick manufacturer have a bigger brain than you |
| 19:56.16 | wols_ | jhutchins_lt: what exception? |
| 19:56.18 | stuckey | :) |
| 19:56.30 | ElDiabolo | wols_: I know about blacklists. What if I want to exclude one of two identical network cards? |
| 19:56.43 | jhutchins_lt | They are often set up with no apparent partition, using an MS format. |
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| 19:57.08 | jhutchins_lt | In fact, that is the usual setup for a bootable "live" or install stick. |
| 19:57.09 | stuckey | wols_: How do I get the stick ready to use as install-media? |
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| 19:57.25 | wols_ | jhutchins_lt: the only "MS" format is stuff like U3. where the disk is both, a optical drive for the shitty software and a harddisk |
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| 19:57.37 | valdyn | ElDiabolo: the card isnt used when you dont use it.. whats the actual problem you are trying to solve? |
| 19:57.43 | wols_ | it's _always_ a harddisk cause otherwise windows could treat it as a floppy |
| 19:57.58 | jhutchins_lt | !usb install |
| 19:57.58 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. (Older, outdated article at http://d-i.pascal.at/). BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 19:58.22 | wols_ | stuckey: zero your stick, partition it and then follow the usn install from the install guide |
| 19:58.59 | jhutchins_lt | wols_: Seriously, live USB drives are usually formated with a FAT format and are not partitioned. |
| 19:59.15 | stuckey | wols_: how do I zero and partition? |
| 19:59.27 | wols_ | stuckey: man dd;man cfdisk |
| 19:59.28 | adb | wols_, ones partitioned it won't boot |
| 19:59.30 | jhutchins_lt | stuckey: See if there are instructions in the guide above. |
| 19:59.32 | wols_ | jhutchins_lt: are there dead usb sticks? |
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| 20:00.38 | wols_ | stuckey: scratch that. follow the install guide above. to the letter |
| 20:01.25 | wols_ | adb: see 4.3.2.1 of the ig |
| 20:01.29 | Wilthril | Hi all, i've a linux OS running on my router, and iptables is used as a firewall. I want to open a port from the outside and forward it to the router, how can i do that? |
| 20:01.43 | wols_ | adb: while what you say sounds logical, somehow debian ig doesn't think it matters |
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| 20:01.59 | wols_ | Wilthril: uname -r |
| 20:02.00 | stuckey | wols_: so I use dd to write zeros to every bit? |
| 20:02.07 | jhutchins_lt | wols_: Note that the instructions address the device as /dev/sdX, not /dev/sdX#. |
| 20:02.10 | adb | wols_, i sow it.. but not tested |
| 20:02.12 | wols_ | stuckey: no need. just follow the factoid above |
| 20:02.42 | Wilthril | wols_: 2.6.21 it's openWRT based |
| 20:02.43 | wols_ | jhutchins_lt: note more carefully yourself. it's not |
| 20:02.47 | stuckey | wols_: it explains two methods -- which one do I use? |
| 20:02.51 | wols_ | Wilthril: then please go to #openwrt |
| 20:02.57 | wols_ | stuckey: the first one |
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| 20:03.10 | wols_ | stuckey: helpfully called "easy way" |
| 20:03.16 | jhutchins_lt | wols_: What makes you think he's running wrt? |
| 20:03.24 | jhutchins_lt | AH, good ol' lag. |
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| 20:03.41 | wols_ | jhutchins_lt: I don't give a shit. he isn't running debian. and the openwrt will point him to the shitty ddwrt channel if there is one |
| 20:03.47 | stuckey | wols_: I can't copy a full cd iso using the easy way? |
| 20:04.14 | Wilthril | ok thanks |
| 20:04.29 | wols_ | stuckey: you need a 256MB stick at least. if you have that, you can isntall debian |
| 20:04.50 | stuckey | wols_: okay then I'll use the easy way but substitute the full iso |
| 20:05.15 | stuckey | instead of business cd or netstat as is said in the guide |
| 20:05.18 | jhutchins_lt | stuckey: I believe the guide has complete instructions if you'll read it. |
| 20:05.19 | wols_ | if the fat partition created is 700MB in size |
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| 20:05.52 | stuckey | jhutchins_lt: almost, but not exactly |
| 20:06.07 | jhutchins_lt | Ah, I hate those. |
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| 20:06.33 | stuckey | wols_: I have to use the flexible way |
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| 20:07.16 | wols_ | stuckey: then zero your first sectors, create a partition and then follow the flexible way if you really must use a CD1 iso |
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| 20:08.22 | stuckey | wols_: I already downloaded the iso -- don't want to waste bandwidth. How do I zero sectors and create a partition? I read man dd but I still don't understand. |
| 20:08.37 | stuckey | I tried to use cfdisk but the usb drive doesn't show up. |
| 20:08.45 | stuckey | Just something ... /dev/sda1 for 256MB. |
| 20:08.53 | stuckey | I suppose that's another part of the physical drive I partitionted. |
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| 20:09.24 | stuckey | Yeah so that's a problem... the new hard drive isn't showing up. |
| 20:09.51 | jhutchins_lt | stuckey: dmesg should show something when it is detected, fdisk -l should show it. |
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| 20:10.14 | greycat | if the debian installer is not finding your hard disk, then it's most likely because the kernel isn't finding your SATA controller |
| 20:10.34 | greycat | if that's the case, you can either play with BIOS settings (take the SATA controller out of RAID mode, etc.) or try a kmuto installer |
| 20:10.51 | stuckey | I can see the usb stick in dmesg, but not cfdisk. |
| 20:11.10 | stockholm | whats the deal with the kmuto installer? |
| 20:11.10 | stuckey | Here's what I get with fdisk -l http://paste.debian.net/download/64894 |
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| 20:11.14 | stockholm | newer kernel? |
| 20:11.18 | greycat | !kmuto |
| 20:11.18 | dpkg | For Debian Lenny installers with up-to-date kernels, see http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ . The <bnx2> and <bnx2x> firmware files for Linux 2.6.32 are included in 0116 images. |
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| 20:11.30 | stockholm | cool |
| 20:11.32 | stuckey | But I don't see the new hard drive I installed... |
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| 20:12.56 | wols_ | stuckey: when you boot, does your BIOS see it? and what sata controller is it? |
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| 20:14.37 | jamesstanley | What software should I use if I wish to play a DVD (both video and audio) backwards |
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| 20:15.09 | jamesstanley | I don't really mind if I have to re-encode it, but I'd rather not have to |
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| 20:15.20 | wols_ | looking for satanist verses is bad for your soul |
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| 20:15.23 | jamesstanley | ...that's not what I'm doing...? |
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| 20:15.43 | jamesstanley | i'm trying to learn to understand speech when it is played backwards |
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| 20:15.51 | jamesstanley | and i need the video so that i have a chance of working out what the words mean |
| 20:15.52 | zobel | errr |
| 20:15.53 | flo` | ehm... i fixed a problem with brasero 0.8 (which is used in debian lenny) |
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| 20:16.09 | flo` | how can i publish that fix, so that it comes into debians normal updates? |
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| 20:16.18 | wols_ | flo`: it will never come |
| 20:16.27 | jamesstanley | flo`: submit a patch to the bugtracker i think |
| 20:16.27 | ElDiabolo | valdyn: Reserve hardware for a kvm virtual machine. |
| 20:16.37 | flo` | why not? will lenny not be updated for bugfixes? |
| 20:16.39 | greycat | unless it's a security bug or a Very Serious Bug Indeed, it won't get fixed in Lenny |
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| 20:16.46 | wols_ | flo`: is the bug still present in the version in squeeze or sid? |
| 20:16.55 | stuckey | forgot to plugin the power to the drive. |
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| 20:17.04 | ElDiabolo | zobel: Hi martin |
| 20:17.09 | flo` | wel. very serios. is it very serious that brasero can't copy a disk with the same drive ;)? |
| 20:17.11 | flo` | i think it is |
| 20:17.25 | flo` | cause it limits braseros functionality on one-drive-systems (like laptops etc) |
| 20:17.38 | wols_ | "serious" means something like "kills your CD writing hardware" serious |
| 20:17.45 | flo` | (after reading in the disk, it fails to eject and the whole process) |
| 20:17.52 | greycat | brasero - CD/DVD burning application for GNOME |
| 20:17.54 | flo` | well, it isn't SO serious |
| 20:18.09 | flo` | but it strongly limits braseros functionality |
| 20:18.18 | stuckey | wols_: Okay I can see the drive now in fdisk. What were you telling me to do to to fix it? |
| 20:18.23 | greycat | It sounds like you have a feature request, not a bug. |
| 20:18.28 | jamesstanley | there's serious as in "that's a serious problem to its functionality" and serious as in "thousands of users need this functionality and it is broken" |
| 20:18.37 | wols_ | stuckey: no one ever spoke about your harddisk |
| 20:18.42 | greycat | If you're trying to copy a CD on a one-CD-drive system, try some other software. |
| 20:19.07 | greycat | (If, as you seem to imply, brasero has no functionality to dump a CD image to hard disk and then burn from an image on hard disk.) |
| 20:19.12 | wols_ | flo`: have you checked for this bug in the BTS? |
| 20:19.16 | flo` | greycat, gnomebaker. but some guys (like me) prefer brasero :) |
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| 20:19.38 | greycat | I've never used ANY gui-based CD burning software. |
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| 20:19.55 | flo` | wols_, it's known. and not fixed until brasero 2.28.3 |
| 20:19.58 | greycat | Is it possible the feature exists and you just couldn't figure out how to use it? |
| 20:20.08 | greycat | judd, versions brasero |
| 20:20.09 | judd | brasero -- etch: 0.4.4-4; lenny: 0.8.0-3; squeeze: 2.28.3-2; sid: 2.28.3-3 |
| 20:20.13 | wols_ | flo`: that's not what I asked |
| 20:20.18 | flo` | greycat, it does exist. but it's broken. |
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| 20:20.48 | jelly-home | cdrdao has had a copy feature for 10 years or so |
| 20:20.55 | greycat | quite. |
| 20:21.06 | greycat | or cdread + cdrecord |
| 20:21.16 | stuckey | Does anyone here know how I can prepare an USB disk for use as install-media? |
| 20:21.40 | jamesstanley | stuckey: "dd if=installimage.iso of=/dev/sda" i assume |
| 20:21.41 | greycat | err, readcd |
| 20:21.46 | jelly-home | stuckey: what's wrong with the release notes? |
| 20:21.54 | wols_ | jamesstanley: big ASSumption |
| 20:21.56 | stuckey | jelly-home: Which document are you referring to exactly? |
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| 20:22.10 | wols_ | stuckey: the one you've bee REPEATEDLY to read |
| 20:22.22 | wols_ | *been REPEATEDLY told |
| 20:22.29 | stuckey | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en < -- that? |
| 20:22.33 | jelly-home | right |
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| 20:22.47 | stuckey | Fails at section 4.3.2.1 |
| 20:23.03 | jelly-home | stuckey: how does it fail? |
| 20:23.08 | wols_ | we repeatedly also told you waht to do so it won't fail |
| 20:23.22 | wols_ | jelly-home: he made a fat fs to /dev/sdb |
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| 20:23.26 | isfranc | have a test on X for see if my 3d work fine ?? |
| 20:23.36 | wols_ | isfranc: glxinfo |
| 20:23.40 | jelly-home | wols_: oh noes! |
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| 20:24.15 | greycat | wow, dpkg's "3d" factoid is... underwhelming |
| 20:24.18 | stuckey | wols_: Shouldn't fdisk -l not say it doesn't look right? |
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| 20:24.26 | stuckey | jelly-home: cfdisk can't read it |
| 20:24.31 | isfranc | glxinfo segmentation error, i think my 3d is not the best :) |
| 20:24.35 | wols_ | stuckey: the paste earlier you did, showed exactly that |
| 20:24.51 | stuckey | wols_: I take it that that isn't normal. Shouldn't this be corrected? |
| 20:24.53 | jhutchins_lt | stuckey: That's what a FAT filesystem on an unpartitioned device looks like. |
| 20:25.02 | stuckey | Oh, so it's normal. |
| 20:25.04 | wols_ | stuckey: yes it should. I told you time and again how |
| 20:25.05 | jhutchins_lt | stuckey: Unfortunately, that's also what a failed USB device looks like. |
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| 20:25.33 | smacnay | Is there any way to better integrate iceweasel and gnome? |
| 20:25.52 | jelly-home | jhutchins_lt: my failed usb devices say something along the line of "io error reading sector 0" |
| 20:26.00 | wols_ | smacnay: I would ask this in a gnome channel |
| 20:26.00 | stuckey | So it either looks like an unpartitionted device that doesn't need to be repaired or it looks like a failed usb device which I couldn't use anyway and I need to write zeros. |
| 20:26.08 | smacnay | ok, thanks |
| 20:26.11 | stuckey | doesn't know how to write zeros. |
| 20:26.21 | wols_ | stuckey: if you want the flexible way in the ig, it needs to be "repaired" |
| 20:26.34 | wols_ | stuckey: /dev/zero has a metric ton of them |
| 20:26.36 | jelly-home | stuckey: do you have a working linux OS to do stuff to this usb stick? |
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| 20:26.47 | stuckey | jelly-home: yes |
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| 20:27.05 | jelly-home | stuckey: is /dev/sdb mounted at present? |
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| 20:27.26 | stuckey | jelly-home: no, but /dev/sbc is the usb disk |
| 20:27.45 | jelly-home | stuckey: replace sdb with correct device |
| 20:27.50 | stuckey | ok |
| 20:27.53 | stuckey | It isn't mounted |
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| 20:28.31 | jelly-home | stuckey: proceed with step 4.3.1, then |
| 20:28.43 | stuckey | jelly-home: want to use cd iso |
| 20:28.48 | dv_ | any ideas on how I could measure a samba share's access speed? |
| 20:28.50 | jelly-home | stuckey: why? |
| 20:28.52 | dv_ | like, when copying a file. |
| 20:28.54 | stuckey | jelly-home: already downloaed it |
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| 20:29.13 | dv_ | something like cat /share/some-large-file >/dev/null | time |
| 20:29.22 | dv_ | but returning kB/s |
| 20:29.40 | greycat | dv_: do the arithmetic yourself |
| 20:29.41 | jelly-home | stuckey: well, use cfdisk |
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| 20:29.54 | greycat | dv_: or use something like rsync |
| 20:29.57 | dv_ | greycat: I wanna see if and how much it varies |
| 20:30.00 | jelly-home | stuckey: well, use cfdisk's -z option to create a single fat16 partition on the device, then |
| 20:30.08 | lindi- | dv_: pv /share/some/large-file > /dev/null |
| 20:30.14 | stuckey | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:30.16 | lindi- | dv_: shows realtime stats |
| 20:30.18 | stuckey | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:30.32 | dv_ | pv? ok. thanks |
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| 20:30.39 | MisterKeal | What is todays date down to the second with UTC offset? |
| 20:30.44 | jelly-home | stuckey: which command did that? |
| 20:30.48 | greycat | MisterKeal: date +%s |
| 20:30.49 | stuckey | jelly-home: cfdisk |
| 20:30.55 | MisterKeal | No gen it into channel. |
| 20:31.01 | jelly-home | stuckey: which _exact_ command did that? |
| 20:31.08 | stuckey | jelly-home: cfdisk /dev/sdc |
| 20:31.11 | greycat | MisterKeal: is there a Debian question with which we can assist you? |
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| 20:31.31 | jelly-home | stuckey: did you read this line: <jelly-home> stuckey: well, use cfdisk's -z option to create a single fat16 partition on the device, then |
| 20:31.34 | MisterKeal | Yes, please generate the current time down to the second with UTC offset into this channel for me. |
| 20:31.42 | stuckey | jelly-home: not before I ran cfdisk |
| 20:31.43 | greycat | MisterKeal: run date +%s on your Debian system |
| 20:31.47 | MisterKeal | I can't |
| 20:32.00 | flo` | why not, MisterKeal ? |
| 20:32.12 | MisterKeal | There is an issue I care not to go into right now. |
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| 20:32.22 | unixSnob | i'm still on etch. what release is the next up, that I should add to sources.list? lenny? |
| 20:32.23 | greycat | we are not your personal shell account. |
| 20:32.34 | greycat | unixSnob: yes, /msg dpkg etch->lenny |
| 20:32.42 | MisterKeal | I just need to know what the current time is OUTSIDE THE WALLS OF MY LAB. |
| 20:32.45 | Titan8990 | unixSnob: make sure you look over the release notes |
| 20:32.54 | ryniek | hi evrbdy |
| 20:33.04 | Titan8990 | MisterKeal: 16:33 < greycat> we are not your personal shell account. |
| 20:33.07 | flo` | MisterKeal, then simply take your watch with you the next time ;) |
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| 20:33.11 | jelly-home | MisterKeal: THERE IS NO OUTSIDE |
| 20:33.11 | unixSnob | wait.. I'm not talking about doing a dist-upgrade here |
| 20:33.24 | unixSnob | i'm talking about apt-pinning |
| 20:33.38 | greycat | unixSnob: you should be talking about upgrading OR backporting specific packages. |
| 20:33.47 | unixSnob | i want to start apt-pinning (i think that's the term), so I have the option to selectively have newer packages |
| 20:33.49 | Titan8990 | unixSnob: etch no longer gets security support... and there was an etch-backports |
| 20:33.51 | MisterKeal | The debian flaw is there is no ability to compare local time disortion with remote time distortion, what is THE DAMN TIME? |
| 20:33.54 | greycat | !tel unixSnob about ssb |
| 20:33.56 | stuckey | jelly-home: /dev/sdc1 * 1 1018 3944719 6 FAT16 |
| 20:34.02 | greycat | MisterKeal: *plonk* |
| 20:34.12 | greycat | !tell unixSnob about ssb |
| 20:34.21 | stuckey | unixSnob: good luck -- I hear it's complicated. |
| 20:34.23 | unixSnob | Titan8990: yeah, I already have etch-backports going |
| 20:34.37 | unixSnob | i think apt-pinning is different from backports |
| 20:34.40 | greycat | (Also, ntptrace is what I would normally use to compare local time against my upstream NTP server.) |
| 20:34.43 | flo` | MisterKeal, use ntp :p |
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| 20:34.51 | wols_ | unixSnob: you should update to lenny NOW. etch is unsupported |
| 20:34.53 | ElDiabolo | MisterKeal: HEAD www.google.com will tell you. |
| 20:35.12 | wols_ | unixSnob: yes. pinning will destroy your debian install, backports won't |
| 20:35.14 | greycat | (Too bad he didn't ask how to debug an NTP demon, but rather, demanded that we tell him what fucking time it is.) |
| 20:35.26 | MisterKeal | This doesn't match: Friday March 19 2010 -- 21:34:41 +01:00 |
| 20:35.37 | jelly-home | wonders if MisterKeal's lab moves at relativistic speeds |
| 20:35.38 | MisterKeal | $timestamp UTC-070000 |
| 20:35.40 | MisterKeal | 20100319133529 UTC-070000 |
| 20:36.00 | MisterKeal | See my issue now? |
| 20:36.06 | ElDiabolo | MisterKeal: Looks approx. correct. |
| 20:36.07 | jelly-home | MisterKeal: what are you trying to do? |
| 20:36.28 | wols_ | jelly-home: he's in a merkin timezone and has a UTC+1 time |
| 20:36.31 | MisterKeal | I am trying to figure out when the Hell I am. |
| 20:36.52 | dv_ | hmm. |
| 20:36.53 | jelly-home | wols_: is that a problem? |
| 20:36.53 | wols_ | MisterKeal: hwclock what is your current BIOS time? |
| 20:37.02 | dv_ | I get about 27MB/s out of my GB lan setup |
| 20:37.13 | stuckey | jelly-home: how I continue with 4.3.2.1? |
| 20:37.16 | stuckey | *now |
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| 20:37.20 | wols_ | jelly-home: yes it is. he shows up for lunch when the others don't even have breakfast yet. very annoying that |
| 20:37.21 | dv_ | I guess higher rates require at least cat6 cables? |
| 20:37.21 | MisterKeal | What the Hell, command not found. |
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| 20:37.38 | wols_ | MisterKeal: as root. it needs to access hardware |
| 20:37.39 | lindi- | dv_: i doubt that the cable is your limiting factor |
| 20:37.49 | lindi- | dv_: use iperf in udp mode to really determine the cable limits |
| 20:37.57 | MisterKeal | sudo not found. wtf |
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| 20:38.08 | wols_ | MisterKeal: man su |
| 20:38.11 | dv_ | lindi-: I got this using pv and nc |
| 20:38.21 | jelly-home | wols_: perhaps he's just an early starter |
| 20:38.23 | lindi- | dv_: they use tcp |
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| 20:38.34 | lilib | hi |
| 20:38.43 | lindi- | dv_: (well unless you used udp mode of nc of course) |
| 20:38.46 | dv_ | hmm. in udp mode, do I need a server? |
| 20:38.49 | Titan8990 | MisterKeal: try installing it.... |
| 20:38.58 | Titan8990 | !install it |
| 20:38.59 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
| 20:39.04 | lilib | i am looking for simply tool that does allow put and simply manage work activities |
| 20:39.06 | lindi- | dv_: i'd use iperf since it lets you specify constant rate at which the packets are sent |
| 20:39.15 | lindi- | dv_: netcat will just try to send as fast as possible |
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| 20:39.17 | MisterKeal | I just royally messed up my terminal. |
| 20:39.20 | jelly-home | dv_: cat5e is good enough for 1000Base-T up to a small number of metres |
| 20:39.26 | themill | MisterKeal: feel free to engage your brain in this process any time you wish. |
| 20:39.27 | wols_ | MisterKeal: "reset" |
| 20:39.35 | tpocra | linux-image 2.6.33 experimental.4 has these options in the config: |
| 20:39.37 | tpocra | CONFIG_DRM_KMS_HELPER=m |
| 20:39.37 | tpocra | # CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS is not set |
| 20:39.42 | lilib | simply i need archive what i did every day, any php/sqlite web based tool? |
| 20:39.49 | jelly-home | declares MisterKeal a troll and moves away |
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| 20:39.51 | lilib | running on debian? |
| 20:39.53 | Titan8990 | lilib: subbird, not sure if there is a debian version |
| 20:40.01 | lilib | thank you |
| 20:40.02 | wols_ | *sunbird |
| 20:40.02 | tpocra | Does this mean that even with the RC for the newest radeon driver I won't get KMS at all with this kernel? |
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| 20:40.07 | lilib | lemme look |
| 20:40.08 | wols_ | lilib: sunbird |
| 20:40.11 | tpocra | I have a Radeon r700 series |
| 20:40.13 | MisterKeal | user root does not exist. |
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| 20:40.27 | wols_ | tpocra: then you want fglrx anyways |
| 20:40.42 | wols_ | and that doesn't work for your bleeding edge X |
| 20:40.46 | dv_ | hmm. |
| 20:40.50 | greycat | dpkg, no, 3d is <reply>3D acceleration requires kernel support, X server support, some other library packages, and that your account be in the "video" group. For starters (nvidia specific, unfortunately) see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 20:40.50 | dpkg | greycat: okay |
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| 20:40.56 | jelly-home | dv_: to get decent throughput, though, you need decent hardware, this includes network cards and switches. |
| 20:41.15 | dv_ | can I use pv with /dev/urandom? I want to rule out hw bottlenecks. |
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| 20:41.19 | dv_ | (client sided) |
| 20:41.24 | jelly-home | dv_: use iperf. |
| 20:41.25 | greycat | /dev/urandom will NOT be fast enough. |
| 20:41.27 | wols_ | dv_: then use /dev/zero or such |
| 20:41.30 | stuckey | Where do I get the files listed in 4.3.2.2? |
| 20:41.38 | greycat | the previous factoid was "You need to compile kernel support for your card. Plus u need DRI + GLX support in X" by the way. |
| 20:41.38 | MisterKeal | 20100319134127 UTC-070000 |
| 20:41.40 | stuckey | It says copy these two files to the usb stick but doesn't say where you get them. |
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| 20:41.41 | tpocra | wols_: I don't want fglrx |
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| 20:41.50 | jelly-home | kthx |
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| 20:41.59 | tpocra | I want the radeon driver, which supports KMS and 2-D and 3-D acceleration for my graphics card. |
| 20:42.08 | tpocra | The newest version + 2.6.33 does anyway. |
| 20:42.09 | Titan8990 | greycat: yeah, I have seen quite a few dated factoids around |
| 20:42.20 | tpocra | But Debian seems to have purposefully disabled KMS? |
| 20:42.23 | wols_ | stuckey: "copy the following installer image files to the stick: " |
| 20:42.28 | tpocra | Is there a way to enable it without recompiling my kernel? |
| 20:42.35 | greycat | Unfortunately I don't know of a single, good, cross-chipset tutorial on how to make X work with 3D. |
| 20:42.42 | stuckey | wols_: ? |
| 20:42.43 | jelly-home | tpocra: it works for my intel card! :-) |
| 20:42.56 | tpocra | Perhaps someone has made an unofficial kernel that enabled this feature? |
| 20:42.58 | wols_ | stuckey: it answers the question where to get these files |
| 20:43.07 | tpocra | jelly-home: Right, I understand, but the config options say: |
| 20:43.14 | stuckey | wols_: from the .iso? |
| 20:43.21 | wols_ | stuckey: yes |
| 20:43.24 | tpocra | CONFIG_DRM_KMS_HELPER=m |
| 20:43.24 | tpocra | # CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS is not set |
| 20:43.31 | themill | tpocra: /msg dpkg kms ; my understanding is that it's available but not enabled by default |
| 20:43.41 | stuckey | wols_: That wasn't implicit. You had to know where installer image files are saved. |
| 20:44.21 | wols_ | considering you have to put this installer file onto the usb stick, you better know where the installer is |
| 20:44.52 | greycat | he doesn't know where the file he downloaded is? |
| 20:44.53 | jelly-home | tpocra: it might be buggy, or require newer userspace than what is currently available in testing/unstable. You could check the changelog, the bts, or inquire in #debian-kernel or #debian-x. Both on irc.oftc.net. |
| 20:45.34 | tpocra | jelly-home: This is why I use 2.6.33.1 in experimental + radeon driver RC 6.12.192 in experimental as well. |
| 20:45.40 | tpocra | They have all features required. |
| 20:45.46 | tpocra | How can I modprobe to turn on KMS |
| 20:45.48 | dv_ | odd. I use -b 1000, and it still returns "1 Mbit/sec" |
| 20:46.01 | wols_ | tpocra: you can't. you can recompile the kernel |
| 20:46.03 | dv_ | (iperf that is) |
| 20:46.07 | jelly-home | tpocra: you just suggested that kernel didn't have CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS |
| 20:46.30 | tpocra | # cat /boot/config-2.6.33-2-amd64 | grep KMS |
| 20:46.30 | tpocra | CONFIG_DRM_KMS_HELPER=m |
| 20:46.30 | tpocra | # CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS is not set |
| 20:46.34 | wols_ | tpocra: and if you now ask how, then get the hell away frome xperimental |
| 20:46.49 | tpocra | I don't need to ask how to do that. |
| 20:47.00 | jelly-home | dv_: what are you trying to do? |
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| 20:47.04 | wols_ | you ask dumb question since you are here, so it wouldn't surprise me |
| 20:47.06 | Titan8990 | tpocra: pipping cat through grep is rather redundent... grep KMS /boot/config-2.6.33-2-amd64; *one* command |
| 20:47.22 | tpocra | I am just confused if I need both CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS and CONFIG_DRM_KMS_HELPER |
| 20:47.24 | dv_ | jelly-home: it seems to me that iperf is limiting the bandwidth to 1 Mbps. I want it to send at maximum rate |
| 20:47.27 | wols_ | Titan8990: this calls for an award |
| 20:47.28 | greycat | I suspect he's got more pressing problems than the UUOC |
| 20:47.30 | stuckey | wols_: how am I supposed to figure out where the two files are on the disk? |
| 20:47.30 | tpocra | Titan8990: Thanks for the tip |
| 20:47.46 | jelly-home | dv_: -b is only for UDP. Again, what are you trying to do? |
| 20:47.46 | greycat | stuckey: wherever you downloaded them to? |
| 20:47.50 | Titan8990 | stuckey: "find"? |
| 20:47.55 | dv_ | I am using udp. |
| 20:47.55 | stuckey | I didn't download them. |
| 20:47.58 | stuckey | I downloaded an iso |
| 20:47.59 | wols_ | stuckey: man find. there is a reason why the other way was called "easy" and this wasn't. but you insist on using the CD1, so your choice |
| 20:48.00 | zr0_ | can someone msg me the permissions of the directories in the root dir of lenny? i just fubared a shell script |
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| 20:48.14 | dv_ | jelly-home: I want to do the measurement by sending /dev/zero contents over the connection |
| 20:48.19 | vaq | Is there a way to change apache not to crash upon if a directory doesn't exist within the configuration file? |
| 20:48.20 | jelly-home | dv_: why not set it to a large number instead of a small one, then? |
| 20:48.23 | zr0_ | also, what owner/group to use |
| 20:48.24 | dv_ | I cannot use /dev/zero with pv & cat |
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| 20:48.47 | amee2k | hm... i'm on debian 5 and just installed what is on the netinst cd. now i've configured a proxy server. how can i get the "select repo mirror" dialog from the installation back? |
| 20:48.50 | stuckey | wols_: if someone is going to take the time to document the process it should be done correctly. This has been written for someone who is very familiar with debian. |
| 20:49.18 | wols_ | stuckey: no it's not. and again: YOU insisted on this way. so figure it out |
| 20:49.19 | Titan8990 | !tell amee2k about sources.list |
| 20:49.21 | jelly-home | dv_: why do you want to send /dev/zero instead of using iperf's internal data buffer? Is your goal testing something ofter than network bandwidth? |
| 20:49.28 | dv_ | well it does not matter what I set at -b |
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| 20:49.54 | dv_ | oh. you're right, I dont need /dev/zero with iperf. but even without it, its again 1 Mbps |
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| 20:50.03 | stuckey | Absolutely worthless |
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| 20:50.22 | jelly-home | dv_: ok, so if you use eg. -b1000M at both ends, it's still limited to 1Mbps? |
| 20:50.25 | stuckey | Hmmm... I tried find, no luck |
| 20:50.32 | stuckey | I tried locate, no luck either. |
| 20:50.39 | dv_ | yes |
| 20:50.49 | stuckey | I need to find * |
| 20:50.49 | stuckey | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.49 | stuckey | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:50.49 | stuckey | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:51.09 | stuckey | Didn't mean to do that |
| 20:51.13 | greycat | So, he decided to NOT follow the directions in the install guide, but rather to improvise by using a different image than the one he was supposed to use... and now the install guide is "useless" because of his stubbornness and inability to follow instructions? Wow. |
| 20:51.14 | stuckey | How can I find two files on a cd? |
| 20:51.30 | wols_ | stuckey: you mount the cd |
| 20:51.34 | greycat | stuckey: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind |
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| 20:51.49 | dv_ | ah but with tcp I get around 910 Mbps |
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| 20:52.00 | amee2k | wow. that bot actually has useful quotes too |
| 20:52.06 | wols_ | greycat: does your find work on ISO files? *g* |
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| 20:52.14 | greycat | if you mount them, yes. |
| 20:52.21 | amee2k | #debian > ##java :) |
| 20:52.25 | wols_ | amee2k: who are you? you can't be the real amee2k |
| 20:52.34 | amee2k | mmh? |
| 20:52.40 | amee2k | why not? |
| 20:52.44 | stuckey | Eh, I'll just wait for someone who already knows. I've already spent two hours trying to get an install image on a usb stick, all to be a little more environmently friendly. |
| 20:53.10 | wols_ | cause the real one is on #d too long to say something like this. and you're not identified to services |
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| 20:53.22 | dv_ | jelly-home: its odd, with udp it is always limited to 1MBps. but the tcp numbers are what I expect from a GB lan setup, so my issue is resolved :) |
| 20:53.37 | stuckey | Does anyone here know how to find vmlinuz and initrd.gz (initial ramdisk image) on the iso disk? |
| 20:53.42 | stuckey | Or do you know where it is already? |
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| 20:53.46 | silver_hook | Hullo. |
| 20:53.47 | stuckey | I mean, the path to the file... |
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| 20:53.52 | amee2k | 21:53 -NickServ(NickServ@services.)- You are already logged in as amee2k. |
| 20:53.54 | greycat | find myISOimagemountpoint -name '*vmlinuz*' |
| 20:53.57 | stuckey | I need to copy it it somewhere. |
| 20:54.01 | amee2k | wols_: sure i am |
| 20:54.06 | Titan8990 | stuckey: find /path/to/mounted/iso -name 'vmlinuz' |
| 20:54.20 | amee2k | also, i spent most of the past two years on ubuntu so i've mostly been idle here |
| 20:54.30 | stuckey | ./install.amd/vmlinuz |
| 20:54.32 | silver_hook | I'm a complete Debian noob and would only need to know how long will it take for the Debian stable branch to be updated ...I'm interested in Typo3. |
| 20:54.33 | stuckey | success! |
| 20:54.50 | amee2k | which may very well change again over the next couple years. at least if ubuntu continues that way |
| 20:54.56 | greycat | Oh, and he's improvising a unix install but he doesn't know basic standard unix commands like find. |
| 20:55.00 | greycat | Wonderful. |
| 20:55.02 | wols_ | silver_hook: there is never a set date. historically, a new versions comes ca every 18-24 months |
| 20:55.28 | wols_ | silver_hook: can't you use/do a backport? I mean typo3 is php so it's not a binary |
| 20:55.31 | greycat | !wir |
| 20:55.32 | dpkg | [wir] When It's Ready. See also <rsn> and <siyh>. |
| 20:56.26 | wols_ | ,versions typo3 |
| 20:56.27 | judd | typo3 -- etch: 4.0.2+debian-8; etch-security: 4.0.2+debian-9; lenny: 4.2.5-1+lenny2; lenny-security: 4.2.5-1+lenny3; sid: 4.3.2-1; squeeze: 4.3.2-1 |
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| 20:56.45 | jelly-home | dv_: so you didn't really test for udp throughput? |
| 20:56.53 | silver_hook | wols_: Well, it's quite a specific problem really â an NGO I used to work at wants Typo3 with at least 4.3.5 version, because they got a theme written just for them for that version. |
| 20:56.54 | dv_ | no |
| 20:56.57 | amee2k | hm... which factoid on that bot tells how to use aptitude over a proxy? |
| 20:57.01 | dv_ | well I tried |
| 20:57.09 | dv_ | but it always returned 1 Mbps |
| 20:57.12 | silver_hook | And they're being hosted on a Debian server of which admins I know. |
| 20:57.19 | wols_ | silver_hook: then as you can see you are out of luck |
| 20:57.24 | jelly-home | dv_: iperf is picky about parameter order. |
| 20:57.34 | wols_ | at least what debian versions of typo3 are concerned |
| 20:57.40 | valdyn | silver_hook: theres no 4.3.5 |
| 20:57.46 | silver_hook | The NGO consists of 99,9% non-coders and I'm not the one setting up a completely new CMS for them :P |
| 20:58.10 | wols_ | amee2k: env variable HHTP_PROXY or such. apt documentation should tell you |
| 20:58.16 | jelly-home | dv_: machine B: iperf -s -u -b100M, machine A: iperf -c B -u -b100M |
| 20:58.18 | valdyn | judd: versions php |
| 20:58.19 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'php' was found. |
| 20:58.19 | greycat | http_proxy (lower case) |
| 20:58.21 | valdyn | judd: versions php5 |
| 20:58.23 | judd | php5 -- etch: 5.2.0-8+etch13; etch-security: 5.2.0+dfsg-8+etch16; lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny4; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny8; sid: 5.3.1-5; squeeze: 5.3.1-5; sid: 5.3.2-1 |
| 20:58.24 | amee2k | i've exported http_proxy, i found that one on google |
| 20:58.28 | silver_hook | valdyn: My bad then, seems like I was misinformed â that's what they said is the min. version they need :P |
| 20:58.30 | Titan8990 | silver_hook: their wiki shows 4.3.2 as being th newest version |
| 20:58.42 | greycat | amee2k: and sudo is eating it? or some other problem? |
| 20:58.43 | valdyn | silver_hook: 4.3.2 might actually work with stock lenny |
| 20:58.44 | amee2k | but aptitude seems to just ignore it and tries to resolve the host by itself |
| 20:58.50 | Titan8990 | silver_hook: are you coding for their svn trunk? |
| 20:58.54 | greycat | amee2k: are you typing "sudo aptitude something"? |
| 20:59.01 | amee2k | greycat: this is real root. this is debian, not ubuntu ;) |
| 20:59.12 | greycat | people use sudo on debian too. |
| 20:59.13 | silver_hook | Titan8990: I'm not coding for or with Typo3 at all. |
| 20:59.29 | amee2k | hehe |
| 20:59.45 | amee2k | i grew up with plain su :) |
| 20:59.46 | silver_hook | My bad it's Typo 4.2.8 |
| 20:59.49 | jelly-home | dv_: better tcp throughput can be achieved with proper (= large) tcp windows; using jumbo frames, if hardware allows, will lower the number of interrupts (and cpu usage) |
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| 21:00.20 | zr0_ | is there a command that will restore the correct permissions to my root-level directories? |
| 21:00.27 | valdyn | silver_hook: the theme should work just the same on a lower minor release number |
| 21:00.32 | greycat | silver_hook: did you check backports.org yet? |
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| 21:00.51 | wols_ | greycat: judd checks backports |
| 21:00.57 | jelly-home | dv_: in other words, make your real app use those settings as well, after having experimented with a tool like iperf |
| 21:01.11 | valdyn | silver_hook: on top of that it might be that lennies version is virtually identical anyway |
| 21:01.28 | jelly-home | dv_: you didn't actually say What You Were Really Trying To Do, so I'm just guessing |
| 21:01.33 | Titan8990 | zr0_: http://paste.debian.net/64905/ |
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| 21:01.50 | dv_ | well 910Mbps is enough information for me. |
| 21:01.59 | dv_ | so, thanks :) |
| 21:02.11 | silver_hook | valdyn: That seemed odd to me as well ...but as I said, I got non-coders's info about their needs and I have zero experience with that particular CMS :P |
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| 21:02.19 | zr0_ | Titan8990: thank you! |
| 21:02.27 | jelly-home | dv_: yeah, that's ok for a single Gbps connection |
| 21:02.32 | silver_hook | greycat: Haven't, but if valdyn is right, it should be OK :] |
| 21:02.39 | greycat | Titan8990: I'm worried that he might have damaged more than he said... |
| 21:03.26 | jelly-home | dv_: typical disks can't saturate it, so it's fast enough :-) |
| 21:03.38 | Squawk | hey guys, I've got an issue with a laptop fan. I'm running debian on an aspire 5315 and the fan doesn't kick in if I just leave the puter sat on it's own, but if I close then open the laptop (ie hibernate) the system notes the high cpu temperature and kicks on the fan. The cpu is running at close to 90C before I force the fan on in this manner |
| 21:03.39 | jelly-home | s/disks/consumer disks/ |
| 21:03.46 | zr0_ | nah, i just put one too manky 'cd ..' |
| 21:04.08 | valdyn | !fancontrol |
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| 21:04.11 | valdyn | oo |
| 21:04.41 | valdyn | !info fancontrol |
| 21:04.53 | Squawk | hyphen mebbe? |
| 21:04.54 | valdyn | , versions fancontrol |
| 21:04.55 | judd | fancontrol -- sid: 1:3.1.2-2; squeeze: 1:3.1.2-2 |
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| 21:05.22 | dpkg | fancontrol: (utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors), section utils, is extra. Version: 1:3.1.2-2 (sid), Packaged size: 39 kB, Installed size: 140 kB |
| 21:05.24 | Squawk | I'm running squeeze, and thanks |
| 21:05.25 | stuckey | I don't see how I can boot from the usb stick. |
| 21:05.33 | stuckey | I reset it but I didn't see any option to boot from the stick. |
| 21:05.43 | valdyn | Squawk: you should return that trash though |
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| 21:06.07 | Squawk | valdyn, it's just a cheap laptop for when I'm away, I actually got it free with a phone a couple of years ago |
| 21:06.21 | valdyn | oh well |
| 21:07.30 | amee2k | hm... i just put the Acquire::http::Proxy line in /etc/apt/apt.conf but aptitude just says "apt.conf:2 Extra junk at end of file" and ignores it |
| 21:07.37 | silver_hook | Thanks for your help guys :] |
| 21:07.41 | amee2k | i just put a single line in that file, right? |
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| 21:09.06 | amee2k | oh, okay. i need a semicolon at the end of the statement :) |
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| 21:09.22 | amee2k | people seem to frequently omit that on message boards |
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| 21:11.51 | jhutchins_lt | Squawk: Sounds like you need to look for a BIOS update. |
| 21:12.32 | Squawk | jhutchins_lt, why bios? the fan is working just fine long before the OS loads and as I sit here now it is happily churning away |
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| 21:12.56 | jhutchins_lt | Squawk: The BIOS is what usually throttles the fans. |
| 21:12.57 | Squawk | jhutchins_lt, wouldn't debian be in charge of the hw after it loads? |
| 21:12.58 | Helias | hello, I've just installed Debian but it stops at startup while "Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd" |
| 21:13.08 | Squawk | jhutchins_lt, ahh ok, will look into it |
| 21:13.09 | Helias | someone please can help me? |
| 21:13.22 | jhutchins_lt | Squawk: Not necessarily. Debian can throttle the CPU, but usually leaves the fans up to the BIOS. |
| 21:13.42 | Squawk | jhutchins_lt, ok I'll look into it, thanks |
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| 21:14.46 | Helias | anyone is there? |
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| 21:15.32 | valdyn | Squawk: debian in charge of the fan = friend computer on a system lockup |
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| 21:15.38 | icebrain | sorry, noobish question: how can I add a generic repo like "http://www.mithril-linux.org/~henrich/debian/package/netbeans/" ? What's the sources.list syntax? |
| 21:15.41 | valdyn | Squawk: debian in charge of the fan = *fried* computer on a system lockup |
| 21:16.20 | jhutchins_lt | valdyn: Unless the BIOS shuts down on overtemp. |
| 21:16.29 | valdyn | right |
| 21:16.33 | jhutchins_lt | valdyn: (Which, really, wouldn't make any sense.) |
| 21:16.43 | lindi- | jhutchins_lt: depends on what bios really means |
| 21:16.52 | Squawk | valdyn, thats a fair point |
| 21:17.19 | valdyn | all my desktop / server bioses have some shutdown temperature |
| 21:17.22 | jhutchins_lt | Wouldn't make sense for the firmware to have control of the processor but not of the fan. |
| 21:17.26 | valdyn | but i have no idea if that really works always |
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| 21:17.55 | valdyn | jhutchins_lt: thinkpads have both |
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| 21:18.20 | jhutchins_lt | Pretty sure this Tosh has both too, I don't think I've seen one without the other. |
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| 21:18.44 | lindi- | jhutchins_lt: my laptop has a separate cpu that runs proprietary software that controls fan, charger, keyboard |
| 21:18.50 | jhutchins_lt | Actually... my desktop doesn't have fan speed control, but it does have thermal shutdown. |
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| 21:19.21 | Rapsodius | How do I reinstall debian with only the iso imageÂ? |
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| 21:19.36 | valdyn | Rapsodius: burn it to a cd and boot that cd |
| 21:19.41 | stuckey | So I configured a usb stick per the instructions in 4.3.2.1 but when I try to boot from it after restarting the machine I just get a black screen that flickers twiece, and then the machine reboots. |
| 21:19.47 | Rapsodius | I said ONLY the iso image |
| 21:19.51 | Rapsodius | no cd's |
| 21:19.56 | valdyn | Rapsodius: buy one |
| 21:19.59 | Rapsodius | don't have a burner |
| 21:20.05 | valdyn | Rapsodius: let a friend burn |
| 21:20.18 | valdyn | ( "i dont have friends!" ) |
| 21:20.25 | Rapsodius | But i mean, no way to grub to boot the cd? |
| 21:20.33 | Rapsodius | the iso i meant |
| 21:20.45 | valdyn | you have a windows install too on that box? |
| 21:20.49 | Rapsodius | Yep |
| 21:21.14 | adb | !debian.exe |
| 21:21.14 | dpkg | somebody said debian.exe was a way of installing Debian Lenny from Windows using a network connection, available from http://www.goodbye-windows.com/ . It copies <GRUB2> to C: drive, downloads a <netboot> kernel/initrd from a Debian mirror, and creates entries in NTLDR's boot.ini for loading Debian-Installer via grub4dos. See also <win32-loader> |
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| 21:21.45 | colorle | Google in colors www.colorle.com |
| 21:21.46 | valdyn | or you can install from boot.kernel.org |
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| 21:21.50 | valdyn | but i havent tried that one |
| 21:21.57 | Rapsodius | adb: That's fscking awesome |
| 21:22.41 | carpx | someone knows how to supply putty another port to connect via ssh, i changed my sshd's port from 22 to another one, but i dont know how to supply the new port via commandline to putty |
| 21:22.53 | holycow | would anyone know why either via alias or running an .sh file, gnome application launcher throws the 'failed to launch child ... ' error? i'm just trying to run a secondary application via launcher without much googlable succes |
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| 21:23.22 | greycat | judd, versions putty |
| 21:23.23 | judd | putty -- etch: 0.58-5; lenny: 0.60-3; sid: 0.60+2010-02-20-1; squeeze: 0.60+2010-02-20-1 |
| 21:23.27 | greycat | huh. |
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| 21:24.47 | pz_ | judd, versions irssi |
| 21:24.49 | judd | irssi -- etch: 0.8.10-2; etch-backports: 0.8.12-7~bpo40+1; lenny: 0.8.12-7; lenny-backports: 0.8.14-1~bpo50+1; sid: 0.8.14-1; squeeze: 0.8.14-1 |
| 21:24.54 | jelly-home | also, one of the most complete vt220 emulations |
| 21:24.59 | jelly-home | judd: versions pterm |
| 21:25.01 | judd | pterm -- etch: 0.58-5; lenny: 0.60-3; sid: 0.60+2010-02-20-1; squeeze: 0.60+2010-02-20-1 |
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| 21:25.23 | amee2k | gah, whats a good web browser? |
| 21:25.29 | \ottizen | Opera. |
| 21:25.30 | amee2k | i.e. not firefox. |
| 21:25.31 | pz_ | opera |
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| 21:25.50 | \ottizen | pz_: <3 |
| 21:25.55 | amee2k | because mine suddenly decided that i'm not alowed to enter addresses anymore |
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| 21:25.57 | pz_ | dillo was great for something VERY lightweight too |
| 21:26.04 | pz_ | but it's not very full-featured |
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| 21:26.07 | amee2k | it just redirects me to google with the url i entered in the search bar |
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| 21:26.36 | Rapsodius | amee2k: lynx |
| 21:26.39 | Rapsodius | lol |
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| 21:26.57 | adb | amee2k, fix you networking |
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| 21:27.03 | adb | your* |
| 21:27.11 | amee2k | ... |
| 21:27.15 | amee2k | my networking is fine |
| 21:27.19 | adb | nah |
| 21:27.32 | amee2k | when i search for the page i want in google and click on the search result, the URL shows up fine |
| 21:27.48 | jelly-home | amee2k: restart it? |
| 21:27.55 | amee2k | then what did i do wrong? |
| 21:27.57 | pz_ | install a better browser :) |
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| 21:28.15 | jelly-home | thankfully most browsers have session management nowadays |
| 21:28.17 | amee2k | pz_: i intend to. hench my original question :) |
| 21:28.23 | pz_ | amee2k: i refer you to http://www.trollaxor.com/2009/12/firefox-has-too-many-developers.html |
| 21:28.26 | adb | pz_, all do the same basic things |
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| 21:28.50 | pz_ | adb: yes but some are giant and bloated and buggy |
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| 21:28.59 | pz_ | amee2k: you might also want to try chromium |
| 21:29.10 | Rapsodius | firefox went fine for me, until my x server decided to go on a long holidays |
| 21:29.27 | reeeeeesty | if i enable auto-modules in my laptop-mode.conf, it will utilize my cpufreq for me without me having to configure it? |
| 21:29.32 | Rapsodius | amee2k: you can try Srware Iron |
| 21:29.46 | amee2k | chromium - fast paced, arcade-style, scrolling space shooter |
| 21:29.51 | adb | !browser war |
| 21:30.07 | helo | heh chromium is fun |
| 21:30.22 | jelly-home | !polls |
| 21:30.22 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a good question that IRC helpers can answer. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls>. |
| 21:30.22 | amee2k | ummm that would certainly help in relieving uncontrolled aggressions induced by firefox |
| 21:30.33 | Da_Wrecka | Little help please; What's the escape code for carriage return? |
| 21:30.39 | jelly-home | Da_Wrecka: \r |
| 21:30.42 | Da_Wrecka | Ta |
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| 21:31.00 | helo | Ta = Thanks ants? |
| 21:31.17 | reeeeeesty | i have a few questions about laptop mode if someone can help :P |
| 21:31.22 | Da_Wrecka | "ta" is not an acronym |
| 21:31.41 | jelly-home | what is it then? |
| 21:31.46 | helo | it doesn't fly in scrabble, for sure |
| 21:32.06 | Da_Wrecka | It's an English expression meaning "thanks", nothing more |
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| 21:32.45 | adb | in english dialect .. |
| 21:32.47 | greycat | IRC slang of some kind. |
| 21:33.10 | Da_Wrecka | Not IRC slang |
| 21:33.14 | Da_Wrecka | Conversational slang |
| 21:33.35 | Da_Wrecka | "ta, mate" is a fairly common expression you'll hear an Englishman say |
| 21:33.51 | jelly-home | ta-ta for now! |
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| 21:36.30 | project2501a | jolly good chaps |
| 21:36.32 | project2501a | do carry on |
| 21:37.07 | Rapsodius | What to do when a tty corrupts characters? |
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| 21:37.18 | project2501a | stty --sane |
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| 21:37.40 | Riviera | s/--// |
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| 21:37.49 | project2501a | what riviera said. |
| 21:37.53 | project2501a | it's nigh in saudi, sorry |
| 21:37.54 | stuckey | Hello |
| 21:38.01 | stuckey | Can anyone help me boot from my lenny usb stick? |
| 21:38.11 | stuckey | I just get a black screen after I select it at boot time. |
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| 21:38.15 | Riviera | Rapsodius: maybe also try "reset" |
| 21:38.26 | Rapsodius | reset worked |
| 21:38.28 | amphi | Rapsodius: or ctrl-v ctrl-o |
| 21:38.29 | Rapsodius | thanks! |
| 21:38.42 | amphi | ctrl-v ctrl-n to get the funny chars back |
| 21:39.22 | Rapsodius | Ctrl-V ctrl-O doesn't work and neither stty -sane so reset is the solution |
| 21:39.38 | project2501a | revolution is the solution |
| 21:39.53 | Rapsodius | stty: invalid argument --sane |
| 21:40.30 | stuckey | Section 4.3 doens't say anything about black screens. |
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| 21:41.48 | freaky[t] | is there any recent awstats package for debian lenny? |
| 21:41.53 | freaky[t] | the one in lenny is outdated |
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| 21:48.58 | stuckey | This is what is on my usb stick: http://paste.debian.net/download/64909 |
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| 21:50.32 | stuckey | How can I verify that it is correct? |
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| 22:00.43 | FullPolarFox1981 | Let's singing? |
| 22:01.40 | adb | troll is back |
| 22:01.45 | FullPolarFox1981 | Did you ever eat penguins? |
| 22:02.08 | FullPolarFox1981 | adb I am not a troll! I am an elf! |
| 22:02.27 | FullPolarFox1981 | Oder zwoelf... |
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| 22:03.11 | FullPolarFox1981 | I thin eting penguinns are much smarten then eating windows |
| 22:03.14 | Titan8990 | !ops FullPolarFox1981 is a known troll that is back and doesn't look like he is here for debian support |
| 22:03.14 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: titan8990 complains about: FullPolarFox1981 is a known troll that is back and doesn't look like he is here for debian support |
| 22:03.19 | FullPolarFox1981 | isn't? |
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| 22:03.36 | FullPolarFox1981 | Titan8990 traitor!! |
| 22:04.32 | FullPolarFox1981 | Titan8990 you are so young but you are a fat traitor! |
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| 22:04.55 | FullPolarFox1981 | I hate traitors |
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| 22:05.24 | stian79 | Can anyone tell me how to get sound from the microphone? it works under windoze, but I have not had any luck here. alsamixer, kmix and all this is as it should be. |
| 22:05.25 | stuckey | The installer crashes when I get to the step that says something about "Do you want to load drivers from usb stick/removable media". |
| 22:05.28 | FullPolarFox1981 | In Russia we shut all the traitors and burn with fire! |
| 22:05.31 | adb | FullPolarFox1981, spakiono te |
| 22:05.31 | stuckey | Is there a work around for this? |
| 22:06.10 | adb | spakoino* |
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| 22:07.17 | araknos | how can i make-kpkg this: |
| 22:07.28 | araknos | make CROSS_COMPILE=$TOOLCHAIN_PATH INSTALL_MOD_PATH=$MODULES_PATH/kernel-modules zImage modules modules_install |
| 22:07.31 | FullPolarFox1981 | adb I am calmer as an camel |
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| 22:08.37 | Psi-Jack | Blah. FullPolarFox1981 again eh? I had to ban him in ##linux yesterday. |
| 22:09.06 | FullPolarFox1981 | Psi-Jack Oh! :) |
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| 22:09.40 | FullPolarFox1981 | Psi-Jack Did I send you to fuck off today or only in the esterday? |
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| 22:09.56 | mrrcp | how can i watch someone in terminal mode? |
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| 22:10.07 | mrrcp | i know there is a command i forgot |
| 22:10.08 | FullPolarFox1981 | mrrcp Use your eyes |
| 22:10.14 | Psi-Jack | mrrcp: Peer over their shoulder. :) |
| 22:10.18 | mrrcp | no i mean a remote connection |
| 22:10.34 | mrrcp | i used to use it but i forgot what it was |
| 22:10.35 | Psi-Jack | mrrcp: Get a flight to wherever they reside, and peer over their shoulder. |
| 22:10.46 | Psi-Jack | mrrcp: Use of such things is not generally condoned. |
| 22:10.47 | stuckey | No one here knows why the installer crashes for me? |
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| 22:11.02 | mrrcp | Psi-Jack if you are learning it is |
| 22:11.08 | Psi-Jack | mrrcp: No. It's not. |
| 22:11.29 | Psi-Jack | mrrcp: Is this a classroom assignment? |
| 22:11.34 | mrrcp | Psi-Jack and im guessing you dont know the answer so why dont you just sit there and shut it |
| 22:12.03 | stuckey | is there a special way I am supposed to copy the iso to the usb stick? |
| 22:12.04 | Psi-Jack | mrrcp: On the contrary. I do know. The problem is, it's not something you should ever do is the problem. |
| 22:12.05 | stuckey | Or just copy it? |
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| 22:12.38 | mrrcp | hmm |
| 22:12.39 | Psi-Jack | mrrcp: Now, is this a classroom assignment? |
| 22:12.43 | mrrcp | yep |
| 22:12.47 | mrrcp | for school |
| 22:12.52 | jhutchins_lt | Suuuuurrrre it is... |
| 22:12.56 | mrrcp | a session |
| 22:13.01 | Psi-Jack | mrrcp: Tell your teacher, I, Eric Allen Renfro, have said NO! NO! NO! NO! |
| 22:13.08 | mrrcp | lol |
| 22:13.15 | Psi-Jack | I'm dead on serious. |
| 22:13.25 | mrrcp | i know there is a program |
| 22:13.29 | mrrcp | ive used it |
| 22:13.31 | Psi-Jack | Are you listening to me? |
| 22:13.41 | stuckey | Am I just suposed to copy an .iso to my flash drive or do I have to take it out of the iso? |
| 22:13.53 | stuckey | No where does it say anything about this in the guide. |
| 22:14.20 | *** mode/#debian [+o mentor] by ChanServ |
| 22:14.20 | mrrcp | watch |
| 22:14.20 | stuckey | If you used an hd-media image, you should now copy a Debian ISO image (businesscard, netinst or full CD image; be sure to select one that fits) onto the stick. |
| 22:14.22 | mrrcp | ahh |
| 22:14.27 | stuckey | Okay it says that... but that's what I've done and it doesn't work. |
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| 22:14.37 | mentor | Sorry for the slow response there |
| 22:14.48 | Psi-Jack | LOL |
| 22:14.54 | stuckey | is getting no response. |
| 22:15.08 | antivirtel | xD |
| 22:15.24 | antivirtel | there are some hidden operators :D:D |
| 22:15.43 | jhutchins_lt | mentor: Thanks for getting to it. |
| 22:15.53 | Psi-Jack | Now anyway. ;) |
| 22:16.12 | Psi-Jack | So I have a Xen dom0, it has a bond1 interface using balance-alp.. Network's fully functional on the dom0. |
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| 22:16.31 | Psi-Jack | My problem is the domU's can't even ping the dom0 IP itself, let alone anywhere else. |
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| 22:28.14 | amee2k | where would i put permanent iptables rules the debian way? |
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| 22:28.50 | astartoth | http://wiki.debian.org/iptables |
| 22:29.06 | amee2k | all the docs i can find either just say "add your own init script" or refer to a now obsolte save-restore script that once came with deb |
| 22:29.19 | amee2k | obsolete* |
| 22:29.50 | xxtjaxx | Hi uhm I get problems with VirtualBox in squeeze currently some modules (vboxnetflt) dont work with the kernel did anyone get virtualbox working on them? |
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| 22:31.00 | xxtjaxx | amee2k: are you trying to work on a proper firewall for your server/desktop? |
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| 22:31.53 | amee2k | um... right now i'm just trying to make packet forwarding and NAT permanent |
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| 22:33.08 | xxtjaxx | amee2k: have you tried shorewall yet? |
| 22:33.13 | stuckey | I'm trying to install a system from my usb stick. I'm able to boot from the stick, but the installer crashes after it gets past "configure cd rom"/"configure network" when it asks if I want to load drivers from removable media. I select "yes" and then it just crashes. I have to do a hard reboot to bring the system back up. |
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| 22:33.30 | amee2k | nope |
| 22:35.08 | xxtjaxx | amee2k: http://andreasdevblog.wordpress.com/2009/11/17/security-even-behind-the-little-blinky-wall/ here for a little preview on how it works |
| 22:36.42 | JyZyXEL | where do you select to which devices and/or partitions grub is automatically installed? |
| 22:37.37 | xxtjaxx | JyZyXEL: partitionmanager |
| 22:38.07 | JyZyXEL | ? |
| 22:38.11 | amee2k | hm...looks complicated |
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| 22:39.18 | amee2k | if i'm going to try this... how complicated would this be to set up: two interfaces, eth0 and ppp0. ppl on eth0 are NATed and can do everything. ppp0 people can do nothing besides SSH ? |
| 22:40.54 | amee2k | because thats basically all its ever going to be |
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| 22:42.27 | xxtjaxx | amee2k: well its not too complicated |
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| 22:43.33 | amee2k | okay |
| 22:43.59 | stuckey | Anyone? |
| 22:44.01 | amee2k | well, thanks for the suggestion. i'll take a look at it tomorrow |
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| 22:44.48 | amee2k | but if i can't figure it out in 2 hours or so, iptables its gonna be because this baby needs to get back in the server room |
| 22:45.27 | amee2k | the thing with experimenting with wirewalls remotely is... if they work too well, you can't get back in and fix it ;) |
| 22:46.23 | llutz | amee2k: if experimenting with it, let a cronjob reset your rules every xx minutes/hours until you're sure your new settings work |
| 22:46.43 | amee2k | and now i'm gonna squeeze a quick sleep cycle in :) |
| 22:46.56 | amee2k | llutz: hm... thats an interresting trick :) |
| 22:47.24 | llutz | just don't forget to remove the cronjob later :) |
| 22:47.56 | amee2k | oh, and thanks wols_ and Titan8990 |
| 22:48.08 | amee2k | haha, indeed |
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| 23:03.35 | felix | Hi |
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| 23:04.01 | felix | I m trying to use iptables owner module. Seems that iptables doesnt know the feature. do i have to install an additional package? |
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| 23:09.20 | guevolt | Which package manage use? apt or aptitude ? |
| 23:09.53 | icebrain | !why aptitude |
| 23:09.53 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). |
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| 23:10.07 | kimson | hi |
| 23:10.18 | kimson | any female in the house |
| 23:10.25 | kimson | any female in the house |
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| 23:12.42 | nervoustwitch | #538131 [i|Â Â |=] this from debian bug page what does the i and the = mean? |
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| 23:20.49 | nervoustwitch | thanks for the wondeful help |
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| 23:49.08 | stian79 | Can anyone tell me how to get sound from the microphone? it works under windoze, but I have not had any luck here. alsamixer, kmix and all this is as it should be. |
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| 23:58.41 | dotCOMmie | stian79: try firing up alsa mixer and hit f4/f5 |
| 23:59.16 | dotCOMmie | it'll give you other options maybe something is tuned off that shouldn't be or inverse |
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