| 00:00.02 | Bohemian | after i've removed packaged, do i need to do aptitude update && aptitude upgrade? |
| 00:00.06 | Bohemian | *packages |
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| 00:01.08 | jhutchins_lt | Bohemian: No particular reason to . |
| 00:01.35 | jhutchins_lt | Bohemian: Remember that "remove" will leave configuration files, use "purge" to remove those as well. |
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| 00:02.13 | bdheeman | j3rg: No news is a good news :) |
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| 00:02.39 | rysiek|pl | so long, so long and thanks for the fish :) |
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| 00:11.12 | SimManiac | good night |
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| 00:13.54 | vixus | Hi, just installed Lenny and got a black screen on first boot. Did a hard reset and how boot hangs on starting cupsd. What's up? |
| 00:14.20 | vixus | *how|now |
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| 00:15.16 | TomyLobo | vixus got a printer connected? |
| 00:15.23 | vixus | nope |
| 00:15.33 | TomyLobo | or a network printer that is known to your machine? |
| 00:16.18 | vixus | none that I know of, and this is a fresh install but I'll check |
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| 00:16.52 | TomyLobo | you'd know :) |
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| 00:17.18 | TomyLobo | cupsd is the common unix printing service daemon, btw |
| 00:17.37 | TomyLobo | if you dont ever want to print (or not for now), you can disable that |
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| 00:17.50 | vixus | no the printer's not connected |
| 00:17.57 | vixus | (online or off) |
| 00:18.03 | TomyLobo | i guess, though, that cups is not the issue, but something that starts after it |
| 00:18.13 | vixus | yeah that's probably more likely |
| 00:18.26 | vixus | black screen on first boot was a bit off-putting too |
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| 00:18.35 | TomyLobo | now to find out what starts after cups :) |
| 00:18.44 | TomyLobo | someone here might actually know |
| 00:18.48 | vixus | hmm |
| 00:18.59 | TomyLobo | i think there is a collection of scripts somewhere in /etc |
| 00:19.06 | TomyLobo | with numbers in front of their names |
| 00:19.16 | TomyLobo | higher number = later start |
| 00:19.53 | vixus | heh.. would ubuntu's list be the same? |
| 00:19.59 | vixus | because that's what i'm on right now |
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| 00:20.18 | TomyLobo | it might, but dont depend on it |
| 00:20.38 | mcphail | vixus: no - ubuntu's is different |
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| 00:21.07 | TomyLobo | you could mount your debian partition though |
| 00:21.13 | adb | Tommy_DO, ls /etc/rcS.D |
| 00:21.30 | TomyLobo | adb vixus' problem, not mine |
| 00:21.32 | vixus | well it's on a different machine :p |
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| 00:22.05 | TomyLobo | screw that.... unscrew it from one machine and screw it into the other one |
| 00:22.39 | vixus | couldn't someone just check what comes next on their system? :) |
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| 00:22.54 | TomyLobo | problem is: many people here use squeeze |
| 00:23.00 | TomyLobo | which uses a different system |
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| 00:23.16 | vixus | is it more stable? |
| 00:23.19 | TomyLobo | not order-based but dependency-based |
| 00:23.21 | vixus | (even though it's testing) |
| 00:23.32 | TomyLobo | it has some mean bugs |
| 00:24.05 | vixus | ok. i mean honestly i was just curious because i used to have a pretty good debian setup years ago. then i switched to ubuntu. i was going to try debian again for a music workstation |
| 00:24.18 | mcphail | TomyLobo: what do you mean by "not order-based but dependency-based"? |
| 00:24.28 | vixus | what i mean is i don't want to fight too hard to get it up and running :) |
| 00:24.57 | TomyLobo | mcphail i have no idea actually. some package asked me to migrate to dependency-based service starting |
| 00:25.38 | mcphail | is puzzled |
| 00:25.43 | Kizaru | lol |
| 00:25.52 | vixus | anyway i'll livecd to check what comes after cups |
| 00:26.06 | TomyLobo | http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/DependencyBasedBoot |
| 00:26.13 | czesmir | vixus: you still use ubuntu? |
| 00:26.38 | vixus | for my day-to-day stuff yeah |
| 00:26.47 | vixus | why? |
| 00:26.59 | beardy | That is the question. |
| 00:27.09 | adb | ! |
| 00:27.16 | hayleyw | probably because he cant get debian to boot :P listen, people |
| 00:27.19 | czesmir | i'm just asking |
| 00:27.48 | czesmir | i use debian but his packets are too old |
| 00:27.56 | vixus | because it's always treated me really well |
| 00:28.11 | mcphail | TomyLobo: surprisingly, that make sense |
| 00:31.07 | TomyLobo | mcphail however, that "dotty" program does not |
| 00:31.14 | czesmir | so debian is not best way for desktop? what you think? |
| 00:31.18 | TomyLobo | you can scroll down and right, but not left or up |
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| 00:32.30 | TomyLobo | nm, right-clicking... |
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| 00:32.43 | vixus | hmm, interesting. this computer doesn't like linux for some reason.. made two livecds freeze... |
| 00:33.06 | TomyLobo | both debian-based? *ahem* |
| 00:33.11 | vixus | one of them was on boot... gentoo |
| 00:33.58 | vixus | what on earth..? |
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| 00:34.34 | vixus | i didn't know that was possible :p |
| 00:34.46 | vixus | to have a computer compatible only with windows.. |
| 00:34.51 | vixus | my worst nightmare |
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| 00:35.46 | Kizaru | i think that this is "the nightmare" |
| 00:35.49 | Kizaru | lol |
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| 00:38.33 | vixus | what is? |
| 00:39.43 | Kizaru | what is what? |
| 00:39.45 | Kizaru | :) |
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| 00:39.55 | vixus | what is "the nightmare"? :p |
| 00:40.17 | dvs | vixus: a windows only computer |
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| 00:40.29 | dvs | oops, I mean Kizaru |
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| 00:40.49 | vixus | oh man right i get it. yeah it is. and i don't like it. |
| 00:41.19 | vixus | wish i could find out what the issue was |
| 00:41.23 | dvs | wonders of the whole computer goes blue if it crashes |
| 00:41.34 | Kizaru | i don't know if it is possible.. |
| 00:41.45 | marcus__ | right, I've found my boot+initrd problem |
| 00:42.20 | marcus__ | I didn't enter the right md+UUID in mdadm.conf |
| 00:43.00 | marcus__ | so, I can boot to busybox, edit mdadm.conf for the correct UUID and then # mdadm --assemble --scan |
| 00:43.20 | marcus__ | *but* even though it's found I can't manage to mount it |
| 00:43.49 | marcus__ | what "event" has to occur for the system to be able to mount the partition? |
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| 00:45.32 | marcus__ | isn't there something in /sys I can poke? ;) |
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| 00:47.43 | TomyLobo | vixus how is that even possible? |
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| 00:47.54 | TomyLobo | linux even runs on the oldest hardware |
| 00:48.06 | vixus | ok i finally got an ubuntu livecd going |
| 00:48.07 | TomyLobo | i guess it takes modern technology to prevent linux from running |
| 00:48.14 | vixus | network manager comes after cups |
| 00:48.33 | TomyLobo | unplugging the cable helped? :) |
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| 00:48.59 | citylights2 | hi |
| 00:49.06 | vixus | which cable? |
| 00:49.23 | citylights2 | can anyone help me out with my init scipt http://dpaste.com/174154/ |
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| 00:49.40 | TomyLobo | network cable |
| 00:50.03 | vixus | well network install worked fine |
| 00:50.16 | vixus | but i'll try it... |
| 00:51.06 | TomyLobo | i wonder if i can tell this init script stuff to start the display manager at the earliest possible point |
| 00:51.48 | vixus | ok now grub is broken... this is a horrible day |
| 00:52.09 | vixus | *sigh*, let me try this again.. |
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| 00:54.54 | TomyLobo | vixus can i pm you a pic to cheer you up? :) |
| 00:55.34 | vixus | k :p |
| 00:56.03 | marcus__ | um, how about :: echo "" > /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug |
| 00:56.26 | marcus__ | (fair few stairs between the machines, so I need to prepare ;)) |
| 00:56.38 | vixus | TomyLobo, the worst part is I've done this so many times without any *unfixable* problems |
| 00:56.55 | vixus | this is totally new |
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| 00:58.00 | Sa[i]nT | How do I install debian from the live cd? |
| 00:58.10 | TomyLobo | you dont |
| 00:58.46 | marcus__ | or maybe :: /sbin/udevadm trigger |
| 00:58.57 | marcus__ | goes to have a try |
| 00:59.03 | nikon_ | im trying to enable ssl support on a server a friend has given me, apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using [serverIP] for ServerName |
| 00:59.04 | Sa[i]nT | I feared that answer. |
| 00:59.12 | TomyLobo | if you only want to install a single machine and you have internet, imo the easiest way is to burn a netinst cd |
| 00:59.45 | TomyLobo | http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
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| 01:00.19 | ryanlin | anyone have some reliable source lists that they can share? |
| 01:00.32 | ryanlin | default debian sourcelists is no longer good |
| 01:01.24 | TomyLobo | Sa[i]nT or if you want squeeze (testing) http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 01:01.44 | ryanlin | isee..thanks |
| 01:01.59 | TomyLobo | ryanlin that wasnt to you |
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| 01:04.55 | raj | Greetings |
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| 01:05.51 | Devastator | gnome screen is too big, even during login, "screen resolution" app has no options to make it smaller, does anybody know how to change that? |
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| 01:06.44 | TomyLobo | tried ##gnome? |
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| 01:07.16 | Devastator | nope |
| 01:07.28 | Devastator | but I'm pretty sure is a Xorg problem.. |
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| 01:12.15 | vixus | Devastator, you got the right drivers for your card? |
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| 01:14.09 | Devastator | vixus I'm using what debian chose |
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| 01:14.46 | vixus | yeah well that might not be the right choice ;) |
| 01:14.53 | vixus | what graphics card you got? |
| 01:15.01 | Devastator | via igp |
| 01:17.55 | Devastator | vixus another thing, grub saw my hd as (hd1,X).. and it' |
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| 01:18.06 | Devastator | and it's actually (hd0,X) |
| 01:18.18 | vixus | i'm having some issues myself, actually |
| 01:18.31 | vixus | grup stopped booting |
| 01:18.34 | vixus | like.. entirely |
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| 01:18.46 | vixus | wouldn't even come up with a grub error. |
| 01:18.50 | Devastator | if I edit menu.lst manually and do update-grub, it puts (hd1,X) back |
| 01:20.11 | dvs | Devastator: change your /boot/grub/device.map |
| 01:22.19 | andrean | I'm trying to make a C++ program installable via a Makefile; How do I tell the program the path where it should look for data files? By using the -D option with gcc and passing in a macro? |
| 01:22.21 | Devastator | dvs I |
| 01:22.45 | Devastator | dvs ok, I've edited, saved, but update-grub still changes to hd1 |
| 01:23.05 | Devastator | device.map has only (hd0) /dev/sda |
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| 01:23.48 | dvs | Devastator: are you using squeeze or sid? |
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| 01:25.53 | Devastator | lenny |
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| 01:28.33 | dvs | Devastator: and you changed the groot option in menu.lst? |
| 01:29.15 | Devastator | yes |
| 01:29.40 | Devastator | dvs do you want me to explain the whole history? |
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| 01:30.23 | dvs | Devastator: Those are the olny two things i can think of |
| 01:30.28 | zinx | andrean: generally people use automake or similar for that sort of thing, which provides some defines |
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| 01:32.01 | Devastator | dvs I've installed windows, then linux, but it won't boot giving me error 18, I've updated bios then it gave me error 21, because it was trying to boot hd1 instead of hd0 |
| 01:32.16 | Devastator | I then edited menu.lst and it booted fine |
| 01:32.25 | marcus__ | that's fixed: modified mdadm.conf in the initrams, --assemble, exit ... then modify mdadm.conf in root and update-initramfs |
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| 01:32.46 | Devastator | problem is when I type update-grub it goes back to hd1 |
| 01:33.23 | dvs | Devastator: onl lenny, that is controled by menu.lst |
| 01:33.50 | Devastator | dvs lenny and windows |
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| 01:34.01 | vixus | hmm, reinstalled, booting... stuck on cups again.. lots of weird static flickering on the monitor. |
| 01:34.06 | vixus | whaaaaa....?? |
| 01:34.11 | dvs | Devastator: paste menu.list |
| 01:34.32 | marcus__ | see /boot/grub/device.map |
| 01:34.40 | Devastator | wait.. I will type |
| 01:34.49 | dvs | !paste |
| 01:34.49 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>. |
| 01:34.50 | Devastator | marcus__ I've already edited that.. |
| 01:35.11 | Devastator | dvs yes, I will "paste", but I will have to type myself.. |
| 01:35.27 | vixus | bah, i'll just try my luck with ubuntu. thanks anyway guys. :) |
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| 01:37.29 | stian79 | Is there any know problems in Debian Squeeze with intel wireless cards? |
| 01:38.46 | andrean | zinx: Thanks. I'm still kind of confused =) but I'll look up how to use automake |
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| 01:39.17 | Devastator | dvs http://codepad.org/EgphQriI |
| 01:39.20 | zinx | andrean: just to be clear, there are a lot of automake-like things |
| 01:39.30 | zinx | andrean: and you may like some more than others |
| 01:39.33 | Devastator | this is before update-grub |
| 01:40.16 | andrean | zinx: Oh, is waf like that? |
| 01:40.32 | zinx | andrean: looks like it |
| 01:40.42 | dvs | Devastator: where is the groot option? |
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| 01:41.47 | Devastator | dvs I'm not using groot option, it's commented |
| 01:42.47 | dvs | Devastator: Nope, update-grub uses that option even if it has one # at the begining |
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| 01:42.58 | draeath | Hmm. My apt-get update is stuck at 99% [Waiting for headers] for a few minutes now... ? |
| 01:43.15 | draeath | oh there it goes. of course just as I ask. |
| 01:43.16 | draeath | nevermind :) |
| 01:43.34 | Devastator | dvs groot=(hd1,2) |
| 01:43.40 | zinx | draeath: fwiw if you (or the server) do/does lose network connectivity, you can just stop and restart it |
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| 01:44.02 | draeath | yea looks like google's repo for chrome was acting up |
| 01:44.11 | dvs | Devastator: and that's the problem |
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| 01:45.04 | hayleyw | draeath, nightly repo? |
| 01:45.04 | Devastator | dvs thanks, fixed |
| 01:45.11 | dvs | np |
| 01:45.33 | Devastator | dvs now I have to fix the screen resolution.. gnome gives me no options :( |
| 01:45.45 | draeath | Not sure. I wouldn't have it if I didn't need to get into some thing that just don't work with firefox (sharepoint, whee!) |
| 01:45.58 | hayleyw | draeath, you should hold up on that. today's a bad day to upgrade chrome |
| 01:46.18 | draeath | just some pango updates here. didn't time out on google either. odd? |
| 01:47.13 | dvs | Devastator: System -> Preferences -> Display ? |
| 01:47.28 | Devastator | dvs options are blank |
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| 01:48.15 | dvs | Devastator: dont know then |
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| 01:49.08 | adb | Devastator, add some VertRefresh to xorg.conf |
| 01:49.33 | Devastator | adb which number should I put? |
| 01:49.45 | adb | 40-75 |
| 01:50.25 | adb | Devastator, google xorg.conf for some examples |
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| 01:52.35 | Devastator | adb do I need Option "DPMS" as well? |
| 01:52.51 | adb | i dunno |
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| 01:55.06 | Devastator | grrr.. black screen |
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| 01:56.10 | Devastator | hum.. didn't worked.. |
| 01:56.31 | adb | http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-config.html |
| 01:56.49 | adb | see > Xorg -configure |
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| 01:58.17 | Devastator | screen is back, but same size |
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| 02:00.04 | adb | grep Ver /etc/X11/xorg.conf , says ? |
| 02:00.53 | Devastator | VertRefresh 40-75 |
| 02:01.22 | adb | try 35-80 |
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| 02:06.59 | Devastator | same.. |
| 02:07.04 | adb | use 'crt monitor' ? |
| 02:07.10 | Devastator | it's a laptop |
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| 02:07.57 | Devastator | well, gnome System -> Preferences -> Display has blank options, don't know why.. |
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| 02:09.56 | adb | i don't get Display here , only Screen resolution |
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| 02:12.02 | adb | xrandr , says what ? , paste the output on the net |
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| 02:12.49 | Devastator | adb sorry, I was trying to translate because english is not native language, it's screen resolution |
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| 02:13.10 | adb | ok |
| 02:13.22 | Devastator | they are blank, and "normal" is written to Rotation, but is greyed out |
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| 02:15.51 | Devastator | well, I'm hopeless.. |
| 02:16.07 | adb | Devastator, xrandr , says what ? , paste the output on the net |
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| 02:17.48 | Devastator | adb I don't have a way to do that, but I can type, it says current 1600x1200 |
| 02:18.00 | Devastator | let me login to windows and see what it's using.. |
| 02:19.58 | Devastator | 1440x900 |
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| 02:24.52 | adb | Devastator, and want to use 1440x900 or 1024x768 ? |
| 02:25.59 | Devastator | 1440x900 |
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| 02:29.25 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.54 | Devastator | boot is giving an error that might be related to this problem, "failed to allocate mem resource #6..." |
| 02:31.07 | adb | ignore it , i have plaint of it |
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| 02:32.36 | Devastator | it's sad to hack xorg.conf :( |
| 02:32.50 | Devastator | should be unnecessary |
| 02:32.53 | Devastator | but.. |
| 02:33.09 | adb | Devastator, paste your xorg.conf |
| 02:33.45 | Devastator | adb lenny defaults, I've just added those lines you told me |
| 02:34.20 | adb | ok . try it |
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| 02:35.27 | adb | well lenny defaults xorg.conf is empty |
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| 02:37.15 | Devastator | adb not empty but doesn't have those lines |
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| 02:37.51 | rumpsy | hey :) |
| 02:37.59 | sioux_ | i want install LAMP on Debian, i have installed agree this website (http://catoze.wordpress.com/2009/03/06/linux-apache-mysql-e-php-no-debian-lenny/), but when i trying to access some page dot php, this dont work |
| 02:38.12 | sioux_ | *debian lenny |
| 02:38.52 | rumpsy | I want to backup my whole system on a weekly basis, how to make ? :) |
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| 02:39.42 | rumpsy | sioux_: i donno, why you are using LAMP |
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| 02:40.05 | rumpsy | sioux_: apache is better than that ! |
| 02:40.26 | sioux_ | i´am using apache oO |
| 02:40.56 | sioux_ | i need LAMP( Linux-Apache-Mysql-Php), to install OpenaudIT |
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| 02:42.03 | rumpsy | sioux_: apt-get it |
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| 02:42.35 | sioux_ | who is it? |
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| 02:45.58 | sioux_ | rumpsy who is it? |
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| 02:46.35 | rumpsy | sioux_: did you try this, apt-get install lamp |
| 02:46.48 | sioux_ | ¬¬ |
| 02:46.56 | sioux_ | forget man |
| 02:47.05 | rumpsy | sioux_: try that |
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| 02:47.23 | sioux_ | are you crazy? |
| 02:47.36 | adb | , versions lamp |
| 02:47.37 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'lamp' was found. |
| 02:47.47 | ragsagar | when I am trying to boot my gnu/linux installations in hd1 from grub ' Error Selected disk does not exist ' appears |
| 02:47.57 | sioux_ | the package dont call LAMP, guys |
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| 02:48.35 | xoz | !fire rumpsy |
| 02:48.35 | dpkg | I'm sorry, rumpsy, but it just isn't working out. Pack up your stuff. |
| 02:48.41 | rumpsy | sioux_: wait, lemme check |
| 02:48.57 | rumpsy | xoz: why do you want to do that |
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| 02:50.04 | rumpsy | sioux_: here it is, http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/HowTo/LAMP |
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| 02:50.36 | rumpsy | sioux_: here it is, http://wiki.debian.org/LaMp |
| 02:50.47 | rumpsy | you can check that now |
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| 02:57.46 | Psi-Jack | I love coming up with impossible scenarios, and trying to figure out how to make it reasonably possible. ;) |
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| 03:00.28 | Devastator | adb some progress.. when I set it manually with "xrandr --output default --mode 1440x900" it shows all available resolutions |
| 03:00.50 | Devastator | so basically seems to be some problem with xrandr |
| 03:00.52 | adb | heh . cool |
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| 03:38.27 | Rapsodius | How to solve "could not open default font 'fixed'"? |
| 03:39.28 | wols | !fixed |
| 03:39.28 | dpkg | fixed font is, like, if X is complaining about "finding font 'fixed'" you don't have the xfonts-base package. usually this means you want to "aptitude install xorg" |
| 03:39.42 | Rapsodius | ty |
| 03:40.02 | Devastator | is there a way to deactivate wireless card on debian? |
| 03:40.20 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:43.11 | liable | some laptops have a proc file that can disable it too |
| 03:43.17 | Rusty1 | or just ifdown it? |
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| 03:43.43 | Devastator | I'm trying to debug why this laptop isn't loading the correct screen resolution |
| 03:44.00 | Devastator | I know it's crazy but some guy had this problem and was related to his wifi card |
| 03:44.19 | Devastator | bu I do think it's not my case anyway.. |
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| 03:48.25 | wols | for resolution problems, check your X logs |
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| 03:56.27 | capitan | hey guys... i'm trying to roll back an update on php5... "apt-get install php5=5.2.12.dfsg.1-1" ... and i get "E: Version '5.2.12.dfsg.1-1' for 'php5' was not found" ... am i missing something? |
| 03:57.02 | capitan | i see that version in the debian changelog on debian.org as well as in my /var/log/dpkg.log... is apt lying to me? :P |
| 03:57.12 | adb | , versions php5 |
| 03:57.12 | judd | php5 -- etch: 5.2.0-8+etch13; etch-security: 5.2.0+dfsg-8+etch16; lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny4; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny8; sid: 5.3.1-5; squeeze: 5.3.1-5; sid: 5.3.2-1 |
| 03:58.17 | capitan | adb, but that's just the most recent release right? |
| 03:58.50 | capitan | i'm trying to go back to the last version i had (i'm running squeeze btw) |
| 03:59.30 | capitan | the new version spews a ton of errors when running drupal6 and they aren't quite compatible yet... |
| 03:59.39 | adb | !downgrade |
| 03:59.39 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
| 04:00.25 | capitan | hmmm... what about just uninstalling the current and installing the previous? |
| 04:00.44 | adb | same things |
| 04:01.17 | capitan | ps, adb, if that's the case, the wiki probably should be updated ;) |
| 04:01.17 | capitan | http://wiki.debian.org/RollbackUpdate |
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| 04:01.25 | adb | capitan, fix wiki , then |
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| 04:02.37 | capitan | hmm.... "Both of the version selection mechanisms can downgrade packages and must be used with care.", says the apt-get man page... |
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| 04:04.42 | mentor | Oh God. The's a there are PHP GTK bindings. |
| 04:04.54 | mentor | s/he's a t// |
| 04:06.02 | adb | capitan, 'can' not imply success |
| 04:08.06 | capitan | hmm... ok well i'll try the painful dpkg manual route... |
| 04:08.30 | capitan | hmmm... it looks like the version i'm looking for isn't at http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/p/php5/ though... |
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| 04:09.28 | capitan | only the most recent lenny, squeeze, and sid versions... |
| 04:09.50 | capitan | where can the previous versions of squeeze/sid be found? |
| 04:10.57 | adb | capitan, my advice upgrade that 'old' squeeze to lenny |
| 04:11.35 | adb | and fix your sources.list in same time |
| 04:11.59 | capitan | ? |
| 04:12.11 | capitan | "upgrade" squeeze to lenny? |
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| 04:12.19 | capitan | testing to stable? |
| 04:12.47 | adb | in your case yes ... |
| 04:12.57 | capitan | you mean the whole box? |
| 04:13.03 | adb | yes |
| 04:13.08 | capitan | or just that package? |
| 04:13.13 | adb | all |
| 04:15.28 | capitan | lemme get this straight... because a recent (a few months back) update to php raises some incompatibility, i should wipe the whole box clean? thanks adb, but i'm sure there's a simpler fix |
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| 04:17.02 | adb | capitan, i said that's 'my advice' you do how you want |
| 04:18.20 | capitan | right. i appreciate your advice, but i hope it doesn't have to come to that. in the meantime, i'm gonna try to find those 5.2.12 packages somewhere, remove my current versions, and install those |
| 04:19.19 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:20.01 | adb | , versions php5 |
| 04:20.01 | judd | php5 -- etch: 5.2.0-8+etch13; etch-security: 5.2.0+dfsg-8+etch16; lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny4; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny8; sid: 5.3.1-5; squeeze: 5.3.1-5; sid: 5.3.2-1 |
| 04:20.27 | capitan | it's only about a couple months old |
| 04:20.48 | capitan | i updated somewhere in january and it was the newest release |
| 04:21.02 | adb | capitan, and is not Debian |
| 04:21.38 | capitan | adb, i'm not sure i understand what you mean "is not debian" |
| 04:22.02 | adb | lock to versions of php5 |
| 04:22.12 | capitan | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:22.42 | adb | hehe unstable |
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| 04:23.51 | adb | capitan, now you run php on unstable ... |
| 04:24.57 | capitan | adb, nope |
| 04:25.01 | capitan | 5.3.1-5 |
| 04:25.06 | capitan | squeeze |
| 04:25.20 | capitan | that's the entry in the changelog |
| 04:26.14 | adb | ... |
| 04:27.24 | capitan | if you're really interested... see http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/php5 ... and check "debian changelog" |
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| 04:36.34 | Devastator | judd , versions xserver-xorg-video-openchrome |
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| 04:37.54 | Devastator | don't know how to use this.. |
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| 04:38.27 | adb | , versions xserver-xorg-video-openchrome |
| 04:38.29 | judd | xserver-xorg-video-openchrome -- lenny: 1:0.2.902+svn579-4; sid: 1:0.2.904+svn827-1; squeeze: 1:0.2.904+svn827-1 |
| 04:38.38 | _pepo_ | Hi friends, I am using virt-manager for KVM in Debian Squeeze but now I dont have dhcp in virtual interfaces, do yo know what i can do? |
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| 04:39.47 | Devastator | thanks adb |
| 04:39.54 | adb | yw |
| 04:39.57 | Devastator | this is the package with my bug |
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| 04:40.12 | Devastator | now I'm thinking what's best.. |
| 04:40.21 | acu | Is there any realplayer for amd64 ? |
| 04:41.06 | adb | Devastator, fill a reportbug |
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| 04:47.21 | Devastator | adb can you backport this package for me? |
| 04:47.32 | adb | no |
| 04:48.38 | adb | Devastator, just wait squeeze is out |
| 04:48.57 | capitan | for anyone interested, or anyone reading this in an archive later... http://snapshot-dev.debian.org/ stores older packages that have been removed from the mirrors. |
| 04:49.06 | Devastator | adb 12 months? |
| 04:49.07 | Devastator | hehe |
| 04:49.11 | Devastator | can't.. |
| 04:49.12 | adb | 5 |
| 04:49.43 | Devastator | 5? squeeze has a few bugs, but nasty ones.. |
| 04:49.58 | wols | considering there is no freeze yet, you are dreaming adb |
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| 04:50.54 | adb | wols, that's was to courage Devastator .. |
| 04:51.05 | Devastator | time to backport.. |
| 04:51.19 | wols | Devastator: good luck backporting X itself |
| 04:51.34 | Devastator | not X.. just openchrome driver.. |
| 04:51.49 | wols | you cannot. if you want the new version, you need to backport Xorg itself |
| 04:52.44 | Devastator | great.. now I'm..f*cked |
| 04:52.53 | adb | Devastator, fill a reportbug |
| 04:53.20 | adb | for 2-nd time .. |
| 04:53.20 | capitan | lol |
| 04:53.27 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:53.41 | Devastator | adb I could do that.. but they will say: upgrade to newer openchrome |
| 04:53.41 | adb | moral |
| 04:53.54 | wols | Devastator: they won't |
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| 04:55.13 | karsten | acu: I doubt it. Is there even a realplayer any more? |
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| 04:56.33 | karsten | acu: http://forms.helixcommunity.org/helix/builds/?category=realplay-current http://www.real.com/realplayer/linux/ is what I find. |
| 04:56.48 | Devastator | wols which is even worst heh |
| 04:56.51 | karsten | acu: I haven't used (or needed to use) rplayer in *ages* |
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| 04:59.11 | adb | karsten, all related www.real.com get ..could not be found. |
| 05:00.59 | debugo | trying to rescue some vintage porn^Wfootage? |
| 05:01.17 | capitan | hahaha |
| 05:02.24 | Devastator | let's see.. |
| 05:02.46 | Devastator | packages successfully backported.. |
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| 05:06.14 | Devastator | hah, funny.. driver was updated but Panel still not supported for 2 chipsets and one is mine |
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| 05:09.49 | capitan | bye all |
| 05:10.23 | Devastator | these small bugs is so annoying.. |
| 05:10.55 | adb | s/is /are |
| 05:11.03 | Devastator | sorry |
| 05:11.46 | adb | that's ok |
| 05:12.20 | Devastator | all day struggling with this laptop.. sleepy |
| 05:12.37 | Devastator | at least I solved my grub problem.. |
| 05:14.29 | stian79 | I can not get video in skype with my webcam. It dos work if I type LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype in a terminal. How can I make this a permanent fix that also would work if I start it from the the shorcut on the desktop? Thanks |
| 05:16.49 | adb | stian79, skype is not supported here |
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| 05:17.52 | adb | report the bug to skype.com |
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| 05:19.43 | stian79 | adb: It look like it's not a bug, but something that depends on witch linux you are using |
| 05:20.17 | wols | !skype |
| 05:20.17 | dpkg | [skype] a proprietary cross-platform VoIP program which Debian cannot distribute due to its restrictive license. Packages are available from http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/ or use the sources.list line "deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free". Not supported in #debian, consider using <ekiga>, <linphone> or <pidgin> instead. http://wiki.debian.org/skype |
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| 05:37.45 | SuperMiguel | any of you guys know the default datastore location of vmware server? |
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| 05:40.08 | adb | !vmware |
| 05:40.08 | dpkg | VMware isn't part of Debian, therefore it's not supported, ask me about <vmware support>. VMware is not in Debian because it is not Free software; even though you might be able to download it for no cost, the source code is not available for some parts and Debian is not allowed to distribute it, see <dfsg>. http://wiki.debian.org/VMware . See also <virtualization>. #vmware on irc.freenode.net. |
| 05:40.51 | SuperMiguel | maybe someone knew :S |
| 05:41.09 | adb | go #vmware on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 05:46.52 | nvz | you do realize, we're on irc.freenode.net right? |
| 05:47.13 | adb | me ? no |
| 05:47.56 | adb | pwd .. /irc.freenode.net |
| 05:48.06 | adb | oh |
| 05:48.13 | nvz | Thats like saying you want italian ice in italy, or a belgium waffle in belgium... |
| 05:48.28 | nvz | or french fries in france.. lol |
| 05:48.47 | nvz | french fries aren't really french IIRC |
| 05:48.55 | adb | glasse |
| 05:49.16 | SuperMiguel | or cuban sandwich in cuba ? |
| 05:49.43 | adb | havana in cuba |
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| 06:15.18 | optraz | hi, when i put on my usb flash drive, the system squeeze automatically mounted the device, but when i try to unumount (as a normal user), it said im not root. when do i need to unmount it as a user? |
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| 06:17.41 | StarStruck | How do I install debian to my laptop with a usb, when I try it says insert the CD even though it boot -with- the usb. |
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| 06:23.58 | nvz | !usb install |
| 06:23.58 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. (Older, outdated article at http://d-i.pascal.at/). BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 06:24.11 | nvz | StarStruck: ^ its in the release notes |
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| 06:25.05 | nvz | optraz: did you right click it and goto unmount, or did you try do it from the command line? |
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| 06:25.41 | optraz | nvz: via gui way |
| 06:26.05 | nvz | optraz: using GNOME / Nautilus? |
| 06:26.32 | optraz | gbome |
| 06:26.34 | optraz | gnom e |
| 06:26.35 | optraz | gnome |
| 06:27.06 | nvz | what filesystem is on it? |
| 06:27.35 | optraz | FAT16 |
| 06:28.57 | nvz | gconf-editor /system/storage/default_options/vfat/ |
| 06:29.28 | optraz | what'sw that? |
| 06:29.31 | nvz | perhaps add user,gid options as described in the manpage for mount. |
| 06:29.46 | nvz | add a group for users that need to do it |
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| 06:29.55 | nvz | technically its suppose to just work |
| 06:30.00 | optraz | no example? |
| 06:30.04 | nvz | but something is obviously broken |
| 06:30.15 | optraz | hehe |
| 06:30.26 | optraz | yes, probably. |
| 06:30.28 | nvz | it works for me, but I am using lenny |
| 06:30.51 | nvz | the only time it doesn't work is if I mounted the device as root from the command line |
| 06:31.09 | optraz | k |
| 06:31.42 | adb | nvz, it works because we are using lenny! |
| 06:31.45 | nvz | I'm just guessing that hacking the mount options for vfat might be a workaround |
| 06:32.20 | nvz | no shit.. and if it were me, I'd check the BTS for gnome-volume-manager, nautilus, etc.. |
| 06:32.22 | optraz | mmm |
| 06:32.26 | nvz | then I'd file a bug report |
| 06:32.33 | nvz | if I were using testing or unstable |
| 06:33.07 | nvz | then I'd just hack something to work for the time being or just become root and unmount it |
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| 06:34.24 | telive1213 | Avash: hello |
| 06:34.26 | adb | nvz, and all that w/o asking any help |
| 06:34.30 | telive1213 | Avash: i am n |
| 06:34.53 | Avash | noone in the room? |
| 06:35.16 | adb | Avash, 820.00 |
| 06:35.25 | nvz | adb: duh.. I've been using debian too long. if I asked for help without checking the BTS first, people in here would and would either ridicule or ignore me |
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| 06:35.39 | Avash | adb: ?? |
| 06:35.49 | adb | nvz, i see |
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| 06:36.43 | adb | Avash, ah right , only 814.00 |
| 06:36.55 | Avash | adb: what are you talking about? |
| 06:37.33 | adb | answer your question ? |
| 06:37.51 | Avash | what question? |
| 06:37.57 | nvz | dpkg, room? |
| 06:37.57 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 06:37.58 | Avash | i havent asked a question. |
| 06:38.00 | adb | 07:32<Avash> noone in the room? |
| 06:38.04 | Avash | oh. oh |
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| 06:38.20 | raktarok | !eat my head |
| 06:38.20 | dpkg | eats my head, *CHOMP* *CHOMP* *CHOMP* |
| 06:38.29 | Avash | that one. .i had slow connection so it showed 0 people in room for sometimes |
| 06:38.32 | Avash | ok.. sorry man. |
| 06:38.34 | Avash | :) |
| 06:38.43 | adb | !ops raktar |
| 06:38.43 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: adb complains about: raktar |
| 06:38.43 | raktarok | HAR HAR HAR! |
| 06:39.07 | adb | !ops raktarok |
| 06:39.07 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: adb complains about: raktarok |
| 06:39.33 | Avash | :O |
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| 06:40.45 | telive1213 | dpkg: hello |
| 06:40.45 | dpkg | moin moin |
| 06:41.31 | Avash | somany ops areound here. |
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| 06:42.35 | nvz | adb: would you cut that out? |
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| 07:17.11 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 07:17.11 | dpkg | 14:47 < sobersabre> "they've told me that to connect to the internet i needed modem, now i am holding it in my hand... how do i connect?" |
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| 07:25.19 | unop | Is it just me or does packages.debian.org seem awfully slow nowadays? It's gotten so bad that it even times out occasionally. |
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| 07:39.08 | MoMo | if i do a chmod 777 /home/nfsroot -- does this apply it to all subdiretories and files or just the nfsboot directory? |
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| 07:39.52 | unop | just that directory |
| 07:39.58 | kaduk | Hi |
| 07:40.04 | kaduk | I am using Debian iceweasel |
| 07:40.10 | MoMo | how do i make it go recursivly? |
| 07:40.17 | kaduk | and its opening some random pages |
| 07:40.19 | kaduk | ;/ |
| 07:40.22 | kaduk | whats going on? |
| 07:40.25 | unop | MoMo, -R |
| 07:40.35 | MoMo | gee, that was easy |
| 07:40.38 | MoMo | thx |
| 07:41.15 | kaduk | it behaves like it was copying part of my current address |
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| 07:55.31 | marcel01 | /MSG dpkg guidelines |
| 07:55.38 | marcel01 | Sorry |
| 07:56.04 | marcel01 | /msg dpkg guidelines |
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| 07:56.14 | liable | haha |
| 07:56.18 | prince_jammys | heh |
| 07:56.47 | prince_jammys | mono-sodium-glutamate dpkg guidelines |
| 07:57.06 | liable | he must have fat fingers.. |
| 07:57.11 | prince_jammys | !confuse me |
| 07:57.11 | dpkg | No, those are my snake yesterday, prince_jammys? Shirts of the Monarchy of Mongolia with extra ham. |
| 07:57.49 | liable | !irritate prince_jammys |
| 07:57.49 | dpkg | prince_jammys: Y iz debain so old? who uses gnome plz msg me, El_Angelo |
| 07:58.43 | prince_jammys | 'debain', hah |
| 07:58.57 | prince_jammys | click here for more lesbains |
| 07:59.51 | prince_jammys | bye |
| 08:01.06 | El_Angelo | !insult dpkg |
| 08:01.08 | dpkg | dpkg is nothing but a mangled enema-bucketful of penguin-molesting anal warts |
| 08:01.59 | liable | o_0 |
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| 08:05.10 | joeyjones | uumm... |
| 08:05.15 | joeyjones | nice insult... |
| 08:05.34 | MoMo | if i wanted to chmod a directory and all it's files and subdirectories, all of it its chmod 755 -r /dir/dir |
| 08:05.34 | MoMo | ? |
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| 08:06.14 | iceroot | MoMo: man chmod will tell you chmod -R 755 /path/to/dir |
| 08:06.14 | hideo | !tell MoMo about man |
| 08:06.34 | MoMo | bah its backwords |
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| 08:10.56 | vy | Hi! How can I upload a whole directory via gftp-text? (Or via tnftp?) |
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| 08:12.17 | liable | i would imagine it has some kind of -r switch.. read its docs |
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| 08:28.31 | Rapsodius | where in debian is that alsa file that tells devices not to put itselves as device 0? |
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| 08:44.37 | elvis | help |
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| 08:48.40 | Ickarus | hi i want change stable to testing, i edit the sourcelist and swap lenny to testing, waht do i do with: |
| 08:48.41 | Ickarus | deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile testing/volatile main |
| 08:48.54 | wols | !volatile |
| 08:48.54 | dpkg | [volatile] a project that aims at keeping the <stable> and <oldstable> distributions up to date for fast moving packages such as virus scanners, spam scanners and firmware downloaders. http://www.debian.org/volatile/ An example line for your lenny sources.list is: deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free See also <volatile mirrors>. |
| 08:49.16 | Ickarus | ok ty, so i dont need it no more |
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| 08:53.25 | jaalto | what is the SED command to start printing from line 15 forward? |
| 08:54.07 | MoMo | is there anyone here from India by chance? |
| 08:54.24 | rgr | sed 15f probably, but more probably google sed ... |
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| 08:54.28 | rgr | 15d sorry |
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| 08:54.54 | rgr | MoMo: my bowels are. I had a rather nice Madras last night. |
| 08:55.29 | MoMo | dangggg |
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| 08:57.26 | rgr | jaalto: you can also use awk. e.g awk 'NR>10' myfile | more |
| 08:58.19 | wols | .in |
| 08:58.46 | jaalto | rgr: I know, but this time I want sed. Hm, now I remember. It was: sed -n '15,$p' |
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| 09:09.41 | callipygous | as a general user, should I be using stable or unstable? |
| 09:10.23 | streuner | stable if you have to ask |
| 09:10.54 | streuner | !sid |
| 09:10.54 | dpkg | sid is the <unstable> version of Debian. Sid is the destructive kid in Toy Story. It is NOT an acronym, but is sometimes backronymed Still In Development anyway. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in; sid is not supported in #debian because sid users should be able to solve their own problems. Sid will never be released. See also <sid faq> <unstable>. |
| 09:10.56 | callipygous | last time I used debian people recommended unstable |
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| 09:11.23 | streuner | not here, usually most people recommend stable |
| 09:11.28 | callipygous | okay |
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| 09:11.32 | callipygous | good to know, thanks |
| 09:11.38 | streuner | np |
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| 09:22.16 | MoMo | i have a directory with tons of stuff in it (literrally the weight is near about 4.5888(repeating) metric tons ... i need to rename the root directory to something else ... is it as simple as mv old_dir_name big_ass_stuff_dir ? |
| 09:23.11 | wols | MoMo: yes |
| 09:24.11 | MoMo | wols: thanks |
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| 09:36.35 | maxtsepkov | I have a huge tar.gz on the disk. I want to extract it but I don't have much space to write exctracted files on disk. Is there a way to exctract it "in place". I.e. write exctracted files and in the meantime shrink the tar.gz ? |
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| 09:37.09 | farri | anyone know about some directional microphone working for linux? I plan to have 2 persons sitting together using the same micro, and who will from time to time get up and keep talking for webcam podcasts, any good quality microphone for this situation? |
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| 09:37.51 | farri | the sessions will be streamed online but there will also be people live, and the microphone needs to be directional so noise doesn't interfere |
| 09:38.11 | farri | if someone know about some good microphone supported by linux please tell me |
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| 09:39.09 | MoMo | is there an easy way to forward internet traffic through a linux machine? |
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| 09:39.51 | farri | maxtsepkov: a disck with low space becomes unusable, you could try moving the big file to some external memory like flash pen o usb disk |
| 09:39.53 | MoMo | for instance -- i have machine a which has an ethernet connection on a switch and also a wireless connection ... machine b is just connected to the switch |
| 09:40.27 | farri | MoMO: I recall networking howto explained many configurations of this kind |
| 09:40.48 | maxtsepkov | farri: thank |
| 09:41.08 | MoMo | farri -- right i'm sure there are full blown how tos -- i'm asking for a temporary quick and dirty .. if there is an EASY way ... real quick simple hack that i can take off later |
| 09:42.00 | farri | MoMo: nothing in networking is easy, you should read the manual, networking howto, google for this |
| 09:42.53 | MoMo | ugh again, i'm just asking if there is a simple way -- if not then its no ... thats all ... just no ... i'm fully capable of using google, everyone is, thats how we get our porn |
| 09:43.15 | MoMo | and for the record, pinging is easy |
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| 09:43.35 | Origen | If an application such as NFS (portmapper, mountd etc) supports TCP Wrappers in the binary does this negate the need to run xinetd or is xinetd required to use TCP Wrappers? |
| 09:43.37 | farri | MoMo: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/networking.html |
| 09:44.47 | MoMo | thanks anyhow i'll be fine |
| 09:45.32 | streuner | in general, you should be able to learn and read in ANY OS |
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| 09:47.39 | streuner | MoMo: there is ipmasq in order to use a linux box as a router, no idea if that helps |
| 09:48.28 | MoMo | streuner: yeah -- i know that, i was hoping someone had a quick and dirty way without going through all the loops, no worries though |
| 09:49.13 | farri | MoMo: you need to read at least to understand the basic mechanisms, or noone can help you |
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| 09:49.27 | streuner | MoMo: forward internet traffic to a linux box, for what for? |
| 09:49.37 | MoMo | FARRI -- I KNOW THEM... jesus, drop it please |
| 09:50.06 | MoMo | streuner: i have a diskless cluster running -- and i need to get a package on one of the nodes -- but i don't want the nodes to have access to the internet |
| 09:50.16 | farri | MoMo: calm down, we are all here to get some help and help eachother |
| 09:50.43 | MoMo | farri -- i no longer wish help from you please. the answer was no, quit trying to force the issue |
| 09:51.41 | farri | anyone know about some directional microphone working for linux? I plan to have 2 persons sitting together using the same micro, and who will from time to time get up and keep talking for webcam podcasts, any good quality microphone for this situation? the sessions will be streamed online but there will also be people live, and the microphone needs to be directional so noise doesn't interfere |
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| 09:55.08 | asperon | hi guys, i need to replace the NIC in my debian box, and i was wondering what brand i should go for, dlink, netgear, intel or linksys? intel is the obvious choice, but also the most expensive? |
| 09:55.35 | MoMo | i tend to stick with any rtl8187 chipset |
| 09:55.42 | MoMo | for the 10/100 stuff |
| 09:56.03 | asperon | i would prefer a 1000 card, since the rest of the network has GB capacity |
| 09:56.23 | MoMo | =P lol sorry then ... i've got no exp with that fancy stuff |
| 09:56.40 | asperon | ok ;) |
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| 09:58.36 | wols | asperon: dlink, netgear and linksys: none makes a chip. they make cards, but who cares about those |
| 09:58.43 | drizzd | apt-cache search sometimes fails with could not open /path/to/srcpkgcache.bin (permission denied), but I can read the file. What's going on? |
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| 09:59.08 | mobidev | hi to all |
| 09:59.09 | wols | e.g. if you get a dlink 20$, chances are, it's the same realtek chip on there as with the 10$ card |
| 09:59.26 | asperon | wols: so get any cheap card? |
| 09:59.35 | streuner | !listvals srcpkgcache.bin |
| 09:59.37 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'srcpkgcache.bin' by value returned no results. |
| 09:59.40 | wols | either that or get intel :) |
| 10:00.35 | asperon | fair enough, the intel is about $50, a non-name (like this one http://www.deltaco.se/article.aspx?ItemID=LAN-1000) is about $15, think i should splash out for the intel one? |
| 10:00.37 | streuner | drizzed: strange, what does "ls -l" say about it? |
| 10:00.53 | drizzd | streuner: -rw-r--r-- |
| 10:00.55 | streuner | drizzd: strange, what does "ls -l" say about it? |
| 10:00.58 | streuner | hm |
| 10:01.03 | drizzd | is that what you have? |
| 10:01.15 | drizzd | it should be in /var/cache/apt/srcpkgcache.bin |
| 10:01.22 | streuner | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12532196 21. Mär 07:39 srcpkgcache.bin |
| 10:01.25 | wols | asperon: only if you have a good switch and a good network chip at the other end too |
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| 10:02.10 | asperon | wols: netgear prosafe switches, cat 5e or better cables, but most of the other boxes are using integrated NICs |
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| 10:02.59 | asperon | ill go for the cheap one then, i can always upgrade if it feels insufficient |
| 10:03.20 | drizzd | streuner: I have moved the cache to my home directory, because I don't have any space left on the /var partition (*sigh*), but I'm not sure why that should be a problem. |
| 10:03.26 | wols | a gbit nic does ~75MB/s or more. where do you need more than that? |
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| 10:04.38 | asperon | i probably dont, i just want the driver support in debian to be top notch, so i dont have to get buy with any more forcedeth crap ;) |
| 10:04.44 | wols | a cheapo gbit nic that is. good ones reach 90+ |
| 10:05.13 | wols | the thing is, forcedeth is a kernel driver. has been in the kernel for a looon time. so not closed source crap |
| 10:05.24 | drizzd | oh, and while I'm at it. My keymap toggle stopped working again. I know that xorg.conf is ignored since hal, but I've configured hal, and it used to work, but now even the hal configuration doesn't help. |
| 10:05.36 | asperon | well, ill go for the noname and if it sucks ill swap it for the intel one |
| 10:05.47 | wols | almost all gbit nics use realtek 8159 kinda chips and it might be the newest iteration of that has some problems too |
| 10:05.48 | asperon | wols: thanks, and thanks for all the help yesterday |
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| 10:06.00 | wols | fat lot of good it did |
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| 10:06.12 | asperon | atleast we found the problem |
| 10:06.15 | drizzd | I have xserver-xorg 1:7.5+3 |
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| 10:06.42 | wols | drizzd: xorg.conf is never ignored. why would it? |
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| 10:08.11 | drizzd | wols: at least the xkboptions are ignored |
| 10:08.24 | naoshige | I'm getting this "No buffer space available" through a wide variety of tools from browsers to FTP clients, making it almost impossible to establish web connections. Like, to see a webpage, I have to reload it like 10 times before it appears, and even then most of the images won't load. Downloads, once a connection has been established though, work fine. I'm using Windows XP through a Debian firewall with a Broadcom NetXtreme 57xx NIC. |
| 10:10.16 | wols | and what makes you think your firewall is the problem? |
| 10:10.18 | pinoyoragon | I got a "Connection closed by x.x.x.x" after logging into ssh server which i can previously logged into. Why is that? |
| 10:11.50 | naoshige | I don't think the firewall is the problem |
| 10:11.50 | naoshige | I was hoping y'all would know anyway |
| 10:12.11 | wols | we don't support windows xp |
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| 10:12.54 | farri | pinooragon: have you checked your file system? df |
| 10:13.03 | farri | pinoyoragon: have you checked your file system? df |
| 10:13.14 | pinoyoragon | farri: checking now |
| 10:13.28 | wols | farri: a remote system closes a network connection due to a filesystem whatever? |
| 10:13.33 | JPT | naoshige: check your free ram and free disc space. i think either your ram or your windows swap file is "full" |
| 10:13.36 | pinoyoragon | farri: 92% used |
| 10:13.47 | farri | wols: if root is 100%.. |
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| 10:13.54 | farri | 92% what? |
| 10:13.56 | wols | farri: then? nothing happens |
| 10:13.58 | naoshige | JPT: what if my ram is full |
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| 10:14.08 | farri | don't you have more partitions? |
| 10:14.16 | wols | JPT: help him in ##windows please |
| 10:14.22 | JPT | mh..good idea |
| 10:14.33 | pinoyoragon | farri: yes but the / has 1GB left |
| 10:14.49 | farri | ah so not full filesystem |
| 10:15.04 | farri | it has happened me a lot that the logs get too large and collapse root fs |
| 10:15.09 | wols | pinoyoragon: ssh doesn't give a rat's ass about a full fs |
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| 10:15.56 | pinoyoragon | wols: hmmm so what's your take on this? kindly help me please |
| 10:16.06 | farri | wols: it's indirect, ssh doesn't depend on fs, but logs generated yes |
| 10:16.36 | wols | farri: ssh will not close due to a filled filesystem. the end |
| 10:17.00 | farri | wols: what if the full fs is the remote server, and you can't open a session there? |
| 10:17.20 | farri | "No buffer space available" is a full memory message |
| 10:17.30 | wols | why would the sshd care? |
| 10:17.52 | farri | when you ssh you must open a process in the remove machine |
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| 10:18.04 | farri | if there is no memory, no process can be opened |
| 10:18.05 | wols | and? |
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| 10:18.16 | wols | so your filesystem is your memory? ingenious! |
| 10:18.32 | farri | wols; read, he gets a "No buffer space available" |
| 10:19.05 | wols | farri: learn to read yourself. naoshige has this problem. on Windows XP! |
| 10:19.14 | farri | ahhhhh on XP!!! |
| 10:19.17 | farri | come on!!!! |
| 10:19.35 | farri | that's the end of the problem! |
| 10:19.49 | drizzd | streuner, wols: ok, it wasn't hal's fault. The keymap toggle stops working as soon as I call setxkbmap. |
| 10:19.53 | farri | :) sorry, I thought it was a serious problem! |
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| 10:21.09 | farri | wols: by the way, I was talking aboyt pinoyoragon |
| 10:21.22 | wols | farri: you were talking simply bullshit. that's all |
| 10:21.28 | farri | not naoshige |
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| 10:21.44 | wols | well, pinoyoragon never had a buffer problem, which was something you talked about |
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| 10:22.25 | farri | oh no sorry, I mixed messages, thats why I wasn't saying anything with sense, I crossed both soirry |
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| 10:28.47 | pinoyoragon | wols: do you have another idea on why this happens? |
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| 10:30.37 | Jeff_Hardy | Hi guys |
| 10:30.50 | Jeff_Hardy | Can anyone help me regarding rTorrent installation ? |
| 10:31.08 | Jeff_Hardy | I get these errors |
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| 10:34.14 | Jeff_Hardy | ../libtool: line 5213: X: command not found |
| 10:34.14 | Jeff_Hardy | ../libtool: line 5217: : command not found |
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| 10:34.47 | wols | ,versions rtorrent |
| 10:34.48 | judd | rtorrent -- etch: 0.6.4-1; lenny: 0.7.9-2.2; sid: 0.8.6-1; squeeze: 0.8.6-1 |
| 10:34.53 | technomike | hey guys |
| 10:34.57 | wols | Jeff_Hardy: why are you compiling? |
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| 10:35.11 | jez9999 | Hi. |
| 10:35.11 | jez9999 | I'm trying to set up an iptables script, and some logging |
| 10:35.11 | jez9999 | for debugging purposes, I'd like to figure out why iptables is dropping inbound packets |
| 10:35.11 | jez9999 | is there a way I can get iptables to log why it dropped every inbound packet, owing to policy DROP? |
| 10:35.11 | jez9999 | (ie. i have no specific rule to drop these packets, the default policy is causing it) |
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| 10:35.21 | themill | dpkg: tell jez9999 about paste |
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| 10:36.51 | Jeff_Hardy | ver 0.8.6 |
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| 10:37.12 | wols | Jeff_Hardy: what about it? |
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| 10:37.24 | wols | !tell Jeff_Hardy about ssb |
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| 10:38.08 | technomike | judd |
| 10:38.15 | Jeff_Hardy | thx guys |
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| 10:38.44 | themill | Jeff_Hardy: you'll need to backport libtorrent-dev first, btw |
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| 10:39.31 | MoMo | is there a way i can download stuff and install it without apt-get ... but i'm looking for packages from apt-get ... (this computer i'm using doesn't have internet so i need to put the stuff on cd) |
| 10:40.10 | wols | apt-zip |
| 10:40.14 | MoMo | =D |
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| 10:41.55 | technomike | guys, i am having real real difficulty installing rtorrent and getting it up and running correctly. would really appreciate any help anyone has on it? |
| 10:42.10 | technomike | does anyone have experience with rtorrent? |
| 10:42.21 | MoMo | wols: can i apt-zip to the hard drive? |
| 10:42.26 | technomike | alot of errors regarding xmlrpc |
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| 10:43.50 | wols | !tell MoMo about apt-zip |
| 10:44.02 | wols | !tell technomike about errors |
| 10:44.23 | wols | technomike: aptitude install rtorrent and you're done |
| 10:44.45 | Jeff_Hardy | and what about wTorrent ? |
| 10:44.50 | Jeff_Hardy | Its a gui for rTorrent |
| 10:44.57 | Jeff_Hardy | can it be installed in similar way ? |
| 10:45.10 | wols | !tell Jeff_Hardy about search |
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| 10:45.41 | Jeff_Hardy | thx |
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| 10:53.40 | MoMo | is there a way i can download the apt-get package ... and then extra it later? |
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| 10:53.54 | Internat | im sorry, what? |
| 10:53.56 | MoMo | extra = extract for today |
| 10:54.18 | SolarisBoy | mmm extract =) |
| 10:54.28 | MoMo | bacon extract to be exact |
| 10:54.29 | technomike | !tell technomike about search |
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| 10:55.25 | Internat | why would you want to download apt-get.. |
| 10:55.31 | Internat | its part of debian.. |
| 10:55.37 | MoMo | no sorry lol |
| 10:55.42 | MoMo | totally explained it wrong |
| 10:55.48 | Rapsodius | !tell technomike about self tell |
| 10:56.14 | MoMo | i want to download eth_tools on an nfs share and then go over to the box that doesn't have internat but has access to that nfs share and then install from that |
| 10:56.27 | Internat | oh |
| 10:56.39 | Internat | apt-get -d package |
| 10:56.42 | MoMo | yeah -- sorry i didn't make sense --- its late ... |
| 10:56.43 | Internat | will download it and not install it |
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| 10:57.26 | Internat | so apt-get -d eth_tools will download it and stick it in the apt cache |
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| 10:57.41 | technomike | apologies Rapsodius |
| 10:57.43 | MoMo | i'm not familer with how to do something like apt-get -download_only /to/nfs/share |
| 10:58.01 | Internat | nah youd have to download it to your cache and copy it across |
| 10:58.23 | themill | MoMo: aptitude download.... but you probably really want apt-zip so that dependencies are also handled. |
| 10:58.44 | MoMo | themill: right i tried apt-zip but it seemed centric around removable media |
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| 10:58.51 | Internat | so `apt-get -d "package"; cp /var/cache/apt/archives/packagename* /to/nfs/share" |
| 10:59.09 | Internat | something close to that |
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| 11:00.15 | wols | MoMo: why would apt-zip care if the medium is removeable or not? |
| 11:00.24 | themill | !wwayttd MoMo |
| 11:00.29 | themill | !wayttd MoMo |
| 11:00.29 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, MoMo? |
| 11:00.31 | themill | !stupid bot |
| 11:00.32 | dpkg | no, stupid themill |
| 11:00.35 | MoMo | its so late right now -- |
| 11:00.49 | MoMo | slaps MoMo around a bit with a large trout |
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| 11:01.28 | wols | MoMo: if your nfs server already has a network connection, then, by extension does your debian box |
| 11:02.10 | MoMo | yes -- this is true |
| 11:02.12 | MoMo | however |
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| 11:02.28 | MoMo | the nfs box has two nics ... so that the client's have no internet |
| 11:02.30 | jerdiggity | any possible way to upgrade my php-cli version (current is 4.4.9)? server version is 5.3.1 is it matters... |
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| 11:03.32 | dutchfish | I think there is dep problem with openbios-ppc and openbios-sparc related to qemu, can someone take a look at this (version is satisfied but still comflicting): http://pastebin.com/caZBX8vq |
| 11:04.57 | themill | jerdiggity: "aptitude install php5-cli php4-cli_" |
| 11:05.34 | themill | dutchfish: there's no actual error message there though... what does "aptitude full-upgrade" want to do? |
| 11:05.36 | MoMo | Internat: after trying you idea .. i did the apt-get install ethtool from the nfs share and it started working then seg fault |
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| 11:05.47 | hellyeah | what is the package of iwscan |
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| 11:05.55 | dutchfish | themill: it will remove qemu |
| 11:06.08 | Internat | err.. segfault? |
| 11:06.14 | Internat | cant help you there |
| 11:06.40 | MoMo | i kno right |
| 11:06.44 | MoMo | good idea though |
| 11:06.53 | jerdiggity | themill, if that works you are the MAN (or woman). |
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| 11:07.04 | MoMo | please be woman |
| 11:07.27 | hellyeah | iwscan package wireless-tools |
| 11:07.36 | themill | dutchfish: can you add --show-why to that so we can get some reasons? |
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| 11:08.23 | kyle123 | how do we allow users to use sudo ? |
| 11:09.21 | dutchfish | themill: --show-why gives for qemu none, for openbios-ppc recommends from qemu |
| 11:09.55 | dutchfish | themill: i can paste it if you want |
| 11:10.30 | dutchfish | themill: hold on |
| 11:10.38 | themill | dutchfish: please. What arch and release is this btw |
| 11:10.39 | Rapsodius | kyle123, simply add the lines to /etc/sudoers file |
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| 11:11.00 | kyle123 | it dosen't let me save that file |
| 11:11.04 | Rapsodius | or rather su into root and then visudo |
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| 11:13.14 | dutchfish | themill: http://pastebin.com/vCtSa7yg |
| 11:13.29 | dutchfish | themill: squeeze/amd64 latest |
| 11:13.43 | kyle123 | thanks |
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| 11:14.23 | mon8 | kyle123 use visudo |
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| 11:18.54 | MoMo | i still can't figure out this damn apt-zip |
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| 11:19.05 | dutchfish | themill: should i try to remove qemu-system? |
| 11:19.47 | dutchfish | themill: and the reinstall qemu |
| 11:19.54 | dutchfish | s/the/then |
| 11:20.14 | mon8 | what is the debian way to connect to a 802.11 wireless? |
| 11:20.26 | wols | !wlan |
| 11:20.27 | dpkg | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <b43>, <wl>; Intel: <ipw2100>, <ipw2200>, <iwlwifi>, <iwlagn>; Intersil: <prism>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <rtl-wifi>; TI: <acx100>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also: <wlan howto>, <wpa>, <killswitch>, <wimax>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 11:20.41 | mon8 | ty :) |
| 11:21.57 | dutchfish | themill: http://packages.qa.debian.org/q/qemu.html |
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| 11:23.37 | MoMo | where is the knuckle head farri |
| 11:23.56 | MoMo | i found a VERY simple gateway/nat/firewall hack |
| 11:24.02 | dutchfish | themill: the only related thing i could find was http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=573397 |
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| 11:24.41 | unixSnob | When /etc/init.d scripts run, is the output logged anywhere? I don't see it in dmesg output |
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| 11:25.32 | MoMo | if anyone CARES -- the issue i had was i have computers on a LAN and one of them had two network cards, one was connected to a swith with internet connection the other was conected to the lan without internet and other computers -- i needed to install packages on the internetLESS lan ... i found a very simple script (just had the change interfaces names) and ran it ... install access ... http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/23 |
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| 11:27.09 | nkuttler | unixSnob: depends on the service |
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| 11:28.28 | wols | MoMo: you are mistaken |
| 11:28.41 | MoMo | how so? |
| 11:28.56 | wols | you install ipmasq on the PC which has internet, and you're done |
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| 11:29.28 | wols | but sinec you never answer questions people ask you, no one can tell you what your options are |
| 11:29.29 | MoMo | ... i didn't install anything on the internet pc .. i just ran a script |
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| 11:29.42 | MoMo | what question did i avoid? |
| 11:29.53 | Fersure | Hey. I'd like to help out with Squeeze, but I'm not a programmer. Is there anything I can do? (Apart from running Squeeze and reporting bugs of course) |
| 11:30.08 | unixSnob | nkuttler: that's what I seem to be finding... the output that goes to the screen is not necessarily logged |
| 11:30.09 | wols | the iptables script in your link needs to be run on the host which has internet, nowhere else |
| 11:30.20 | MoMo | and? |
| 11:30.32 | wols | and that's all one needs. all |
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| 11:30.42 | hellyeah | hey |
| 11:30.45 | wols | unixSnob: not logged. many daemons log to syslog or another log file tho |
| 11:30.53 | hellyeah | what is wrong in desktop-base package |
| 11:30.53 | nkuttler | unixSnob: dmesg is for kernel stuff. logs depend on the service and how you run the init script. |
| 11:31.16 | nkuttler | !tell hellyeah about errors |
| 11:31.22 | hellyeah | it always gives post installation script return error 1 |
| 11:31.28 | wols | nkuttler: tell him about testing too |
| 11:31.34 | nkuttler | .. |
| 11:31.36 | hellyeah | i told |
| 11:31.44 | wols | hellyeah: no you did not |
| 11:31.48 | nkuttler | hellyeah: fix the postinst script, /var/lib/dpkg/info/foo.postinst |
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| 11:32.01 | wols | hellyeah: read the factoid. the FIRST error |
| 11:32.27 | MoMo | well than heres one for you wols, when i try and install these packages now, i get: can't write log, openpty() failed (dev/pts not mounted)? |
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| 11:33.02 | MoMo | the machien i'm trying to install on is a diskless client running nfs on the machine with the internet |
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| 11:33.51 | hellyeah | wols, http://paste.org/pastebin/view/16551 |
| 11:34.28 | wols | hellyeah: read line 22 until it gets into your brain. no worries, I know it can take quite a while for you. we wait |
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| 11:37.01 | jamesstanley | Anyone know what the current state of Debian on core i3 is? |
| 11:37.14 | jamesstanley | e.g. does the on-chip GPU work reliably? |
| 11:37.39 | wols | jamesstanley: ask intel from which driver on they support it |
| 11:37.47 | wols | then check pdo |
| 11:38.08 | jamesstanley | i haven't bought it yet, i'm just wondering if it's worth buying |
| 11:38.12 | jamesstanley | so i've not actually had any problems |
| 11:38.32 | jamesstanley | but you reckon it should work fine as long as i run the right drivers? |
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| 11:40.32 | hellyeah | wols, i understand error |
| 11:40.35 | hellyeah | i guess |
| 11:41.27 | hellyeah | ebblue-1600x1200.png does not exist |
| 11:41.37 | hellyeah | i understand you saÅd dont worry about it |
| 11:42.16 | wols | only hellyeah can totally misunderstand what is said with such regularity |
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| 11:44.12 | hellyeah | wols, line 22 : pdate-alternatives: error: alternative path /usr/share/images/desktop-base/debblue-1600x1200.png doesn't exist. |
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| 11:51.09 | MoMo | nfs question -- if i'm installing something via apt-get install on an nfs diskless client, what am i missing that is causing it to prompt with cannot write log openpty failed /dev/pty not mounted? |
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| 11:52.56 | mischievious | MoMo, you dont have devpts mounted |
| 11:53.09 | MoMo | thats what i figured .. now this is where i get lost |
| 11:53.21 | MoMo | i figure .. i have to mount it in the nfs shared /etc/fstab |
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| 11:53.27 | MoMo | or am i totally off? |
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| 11:58.45 | jez9999 | hi. I just did a major upgrade of my squeeze install |
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| 11:58.54 | jez9999 | stuff seems to be working except my NAT has broken |
| 11:59.01 | jez9999 | no idea why, /etc/network/interfaces and iptables havent changed and seem OK |
| 11:59.08 | jez9999 | my other network box can ping this one, but nothing is getting through from it to the internet |
| 11:59.15 | jez9999 | why could this be? |
| 11:59.32 | wols | jez9999: what did you use to enable NAT before? |
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| 12:00.22 | MoMo | where would i mount /dev/pts in a nfs diskless client |
| 12:00.45 | jez9999 | wols: an iptables configuration |
| 12:00.46 | Acony | how can I overwrite default nameservers ? when I change it in resolv.conf latter resolv.conf is overwritten and default nameservers (from my ISP) in it again |
| 12:00.54 | jez9999 | and dhcpd3 |
| 12:01.23 | pngwn | jez9999, it isn't considered good form to ask the same question on both networks. |
| 12:02.00 | wols | Acony: you using dhcp? if so edit /etc/dhclient.conf to not get dns servers via dhcp |
| 12:02.45 | jez9999 | pngwn: : maybe there should be an auto forwarder then |
| 12:02.45 | Acony | wols, yeap, will try it, and let u know, tnx |
| 12:02.49 | pngwn | jez9999, or you could just not ask the same question on both networks. :) |
| 12:03.27 | jez9999 | then eg. malaphus would've missed it |
| 12:03.32 | Acony | wols, hm, I dont have this file at all ? |
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| 12:04.00 | wols | Acony: debian version? |
| 12:04.14 | Acony | wols, testing |
| 12:05.25 | wols | Acony: dpkg -l |grep dhcp |
| 12:05.43 | Acony | ii dhcp3-client 3.1.3-1 DHCP client |
| 12:05.43 | Acony | ii dhcp3-common 3.1.3-1 common files used by all the dhcp3* packages |
| 12:05.55 | Acony | sorry for 2 lines :D |
| 12:06.02 | wols | dhclient.conf is part of dhcp3-client |
| 12:06.24 | wols | possibly in /etc/dhclient3/dhclient.conf |
| 12:06.52 | jez9999 | this is what i am running in my rc.local script to try and get NAT working: http://pastebin.com/rwts8ZAj |
| 12:06.53 | Acony | yeap will take a look |
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| 12:07.16 | jez9999 | can anyone see anything wrong? |
| 12:07.33 | shamun | can i use debian/ubuntu 10? http://mono-project.com/Main_Page |
| 12:07.54 | Acony | hm wols I already edit this file before obviously |
| 12:07.56 | Acony | prepend domain-name-servers 8.8.8.8,8.8.4.4; |
| 12:08.08 | wols | jez9999: no ip_forward enabled |
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| 12:10.16 | jez9999 | wols: where should that be? |
| 12:10.56 | wols | wherever you want it. |
| 12:12.09 | jez9999 | i mean what do i need to do to enable it? |
| 12:12.18 | jez9999 | efef |
| 12:12.22 | jez9999 | oops |
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| 12:15.04 | Janni | Sorry for asking so bluntly, but it takes so much time figuring this out by looking at documentation for dpkg, apt-*, aptitude... Could anyone just tell me, how I can display all installed packages including their space usage? |
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| 12:16.59 | themill | Janni: aptitude search ~i -F"%40p%I" |
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| 12:17.20 | wols | themill: what good is space on disk? it's utterly meaningless anyways |
| 12:17.51 | themill | looks around confusedly |
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| 12:18.23 | Janni | themill: Tanks! |
| 12:18.26 | Janni | +h |
| 12:18.32 | rgr | wols: it might be considered important for planned disk usage, swapfile etc. |
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| 12:19.24 | wols | rgr: definitely not for swapfile sizes. and it's useless. e.g. openoffice is a big ass monstruc but it's in a ton of different, smal packages |
| 12:19.31 | wols | same for tex, X, gnome, kde, etc |
| 12:19.49 | wols | so you'd have to add up all those different openoffice packages manually anyways... |
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| 12:28.36 | rgr | I only read your first reply. But its still sort of useful to know a packages disk size for obvious reasons - you might need to prune to make room for other things and then its a trade off of space v usage. |
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| 12:31.00 | Bond` | hey i was wondering what this ment....http://pastebin.org/119256 |
| 12:31.20 | Bond` | im at a job trying to finish an asterisk install |
| 12:31.29 | Bond` | and have never come across that error... |
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| 12:32.54 | Bond` | its a fresh netinstall of debian |
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| 12:33.15 | Bond` | that i did a few hours ago when we installed all the new hardware on the machine... |
| 12:33.17 | wols | this is not a debian related error. it's a broken makefile |
| 12:33.22 | Bond` | oh |
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| 12:33.33 | Bond` | how would i fix said makefile? |
| 12:34.02 | wols | by taking lessons on how to write makefiles |
| 12:34.11 | Bond` | oh right... |
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| 12:37.30 | jez9999 | has Debian introduced a mechanism yet to catch all log messages spewed out at bootup? will it ever? |
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| 12:43.49 | chichipongo | jez9999: you'd probably want to edit /etc/default/bootlogd |
| 12:44.29 | jez9999 | ah, so there is now a bootlog daemon? |
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| 12:46.38 | jez9999 | because this would seem to suggest that there isn't: http://www.wplug.org/pipermail/wplug/2005-June/026015.html |
| 12:46.39 | jez9999 | :-) |
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| 12:50.12 | Bondd | that was written in 2005 |
| 12:50.13 | Bondd | :| |
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| 12:51.46 | km0ti0n | Just ran apt-get upgrade and I think I've got a new kernel, 2.6.26-2-686. I need to reboot all tha machines right? |
| 12:52.52 | km0ti0n | All, neing the ones with the updated kernel |
| 12:53.05 | km0ti0n | s/neing/being |
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| 12:53.18 | jtheuer | hey is there a (x,console) app that helps me to manage a few debian servers? I'd like to aggregate information about load, pending updates maybe install packages on all systems, ... how do other admin keep an overview? |
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| 12:53.49 | km0ti0n | In fact it's only the one and that as a box I setup 2 weeks ago, n hasn't been rebooted since. |
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| 13:01.23 | zp | Hi, 1) is it correct that if I use "fetchmail --fetchlimit 1" I'll get the oldest not read email? 2) if I do 1) from several computers - is there a mechanism that guarantees that I a) will get all emails b) will not fetch the same email twice on different computers? |
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| 13:05.14 | unicoder | a friend is asking me for help with this: http://www.rutski89.com/static/Untitled%203.png |
| 13:05.21 | unicoder | that's what he gets from running "apt-get install vlc" |
| 13:05.24 | unicoder | and it's basically a fresh lenny install |
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| 13:08.46 | action09 | unicoder hi, can't help long sorry, but at first view i'll check in /etc/apt/sources.list if "main contrib non-free" are present, see mine: http://pastebin.com/xSv3VeT7 |
| 13:09.29 | action09 | unicoder i'd also remove existing package: aptitude remove vlc, do an update of sources list: aptitude update and reinstall it again: aptitude install vlc |
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| 13:10.01 | action09 | unicoder i'm sorry not to be more precise, hope it'll help :) |
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| 13:12.59 | asperon | ok, new nic is in the box, how can i tell what linux named it? |
| 13:13.28 | asperon | from dmesg it looks like it is renaming forcedeth etc? |
| 13:13.41 | asperon | is there anyway i can completly disable forcedeth? |
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| 13:16.54 | dvs | asperon: blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d |
| 13:17.28 | asperon | dvs: ok, just add forcedeth there, or forcedeth.ko or? |
| 13:17.49 | dvs | asperon: just forcedeth |
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| 13:18.36 | asperon | thanks |
| 13:18.42 | dvs | np |
| 13:19.16 | eml | How annoying, debian installer can't mount my cd :( |
| 13:19.30 | niklas_ | hmm i have change in rules.d/udev-net.. my 2 nic change name.. and but it still changing name |
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| 13:26.05 | asperon | dvs: didn't see to help, o well, seems like the new card is eth2, ill just leave it at that |
| 13:27.31 | dvs | asperon: That's taken care of in the /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
| 13:28.13 | asperon | dvs: ok, ill have a look there |
| 13:28.32 | asperon | SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="forcedeth", NAME="eth0" |
| 13:28.42 | asperon | guess that that force forcedeth to be eth0 right |
| 13:28.46 | dvs | yup |
| 13:28.58 | asperon | then i have: SUBSYSTEM=="net", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="00:02:44:7b:87:a4", NAME="eth1" |
| 13:29.10 | asperon | but for some reason the new nic is named eth2 |
| 13:29.32 | asperon | ok, i have a third line for the new card |
| 13:29.55 | asperon | could i just swap the eth0 from forced to the new one and restart networking, or how would i go about this? |
| 13:30.02 | asperon | wonder what the eth1 card is?! |
| 13:30.11 | dvs | asperon: swap them |
| 13:30.33 | dvs | asperon: eth1 could have been a card you plugged in from before. |
| 13:31.45 | asperon | makes sense, could i just remove the forcedeth and the eth1 card, or should i just leave it be? |
| 13:31.56 | dvs | asperon: you can remove it if you want. |
| 13:32.39 | asperon | dvs: thanks for the help |
| 13:32.44 | dvs | np |
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| 13:51.23 | zp | Hi, 1) is it correct that if I use "fetchmail --fetchlimit 1" I'll get the oldest not read email? 2) if I do 1) from several computers - is there a mechanism that guarantees that I a) will get all emails b) will not fetch the same email twice on different computers? |
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| 13:53.58 | nsadmin | what does man fetchmail say |
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| 13:54.28 | schmack | how can i regenerate links from KDE menu? |
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| 13:55.37 | nsadmin | if you don't find out here you can try #debian-kde or the mailling list |
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| 13:57.15 | zp | nsadmin: I have it from there, I'm just not sure |
| 13:57.23 | zp | (regarding 1) |
| 13:57.57 | nsadmin | what is it you're not sure about specifically? |
| 13:58.07 | nsadmin | brb, starting coffee |
| 13:58.12 | zp | whether it would be the oldest email |
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| 13:58.30 | zp | and regarding 2) - I have no clue |
| 13:58.31 | nsadmin | and so th man page doesn't say... |
| 13:58.47 | zp | no |
| 13:59.12 | nsadmin | so you want to get emails one at a tiem to different machines but the same remote email acct? |
| 13:59.21 | zp | yes |
| 13:59.53 | nsadmin | is there a way to specify to fetchmail the order it should fetch? |
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| 14:00.09 | schmack | nsadmin: no i was delete the terminal in kde menu utilities |
| 14:00.14 | schmack | nsadmin: i want to restore it |
| 14:00.42 | nsadmin | update-menu? |
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| 14:00.54 | nsadmin | not sure how that works with kde tho |
| 14:01.12 | schmack | update-menu from where? |
| 14:01.21 | nsadmin | shell |
| 14:01.24 | schmack | ok |
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| 14:01.41 | nsadmin | might want to check its man page to make sure it does exactly what you want |
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| 14:02.01 | schmack | ok |
| 14:02.01 | n0ta | Hi, seems at people with IP 85.xxx.xxx.xxx cant connect to my server, ping it or anything.. and i cant ping anything with 85. -- Where can I search for such errors? |
| 14:02.03 | soulslayer | hello i am debain squueze user and afeter aptitude upgrade me proftpd cannot be started again the problem is in the new opennssl header that i've got after update |
| 14:02.05 | soulslayer | http://pastebin.com/nyadrZ3A |
| 14:02.17 | soulslayer | can some one tell me a proper solution for this problem |
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| 14:02.25 | zp | nsadmin: I didn't see something like this in the man... |
| 14:02.25 | soulslayer | maye if i change the link (that i can't find) |
| 14:03.02 | soulslayer | or reconfigure the proftpd ? but what are the right messures that i must take ? |
| 14:03.12 | zp | nsadmin: but the main question is - is there a synchronization mechanism in email server? |
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| 14:03.44 | nsadmin | you mean if (say) you start the "get one email" at the same time? |
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| 14:04.22 | lindi- | zp: retrieve + delete is not atomic |
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| 14:05.13 | zp | lindi-: can something be done about it? |
| 14:05.27 | zp | nsadmin: yes |
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| 14:05.59 | nsadmin | the thing that would be done about it involves altering the code of fetchmail |
| 14:06.20 | nsadmin | err wrong |
| 14:06.27 | zp | server? |
| 14:06.36 | nsadmin | you'd have to make it atomic on the server |
| 14:07.20 | nsadmin | what if you did this... |
| 14:07.35 | nsadmin | fetchmail to get all emails |
| 14:07.48 | nsadmin | store them in postgresql |
| 14:08.07 | nsadmin | write a transaction that grabs and deletes an email |
| 14:08.24 | nsadmin | wrap a pop server around this |
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| 14:09.09 | lindi- | is it pop or imap? |
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| 14:09.40 | zp | maybe I'll have one process that sorts all emails in different folders and fetch from a specific folder from one computer? |
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| 14:10.11 | nsadmin | then, your "get one email" fetchmail goes instead to the box with postgresql |
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| 14:10.48 | lindi- | nsadmin: sounds overkill :) |
| 14:11.57 | zp | lindi- : could be both, but I think its pop... |
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| 14:12.42 | lindi- | zp: with pop you can't create new folders that easily |
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| 14:12.56 | buntfalke | How to achive the same effects as pressing "Alt+F7" on a terminal remotely? As in, how to switch to X11 remotely? |
| 14:13.39 | nsadmin | theres a switchvt or something like that |
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| 14:23.30 | hghgd | Loading... |
| 14:23.57 | hghgd | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1885625/screenshot.png |
| 14:24.07 | hghgd | any idea what could be causing this? |
| 14:24.40 | dv- | video card overheating? |
| 14:25.13 | hghgd | no, it's just in some applications in some areas |
| 14:25.53 | hghgd | and when i am in nautilus and click the magnifying glass to zom out or in it's gone |
| 14:26.02 | hghgd | also happens in deluge |
| 14:27.10 | hghgd | also in geany |
| 14:28.16 | hghgd | and gedit |
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| 14:31.05 | vixus | wow.. debian is screwed on this machine. had to unplug ethernet to continue boot and then it black screened, probably due to gfx card issues :P |
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| 14:40.38 | OpenTokix | vixus: have you run memtest and such on it? |
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| 14:41.49 | vixus | could do but the issue seems to be the video card... I get a 'no screens found' x error |
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| 14:42.09 | iluminator101 | how do i block ultrasurf on port 9666? |
| 14:42.22 | robbe- | Can you configure folder permissions in such a way that the files users put in automatically have the same group? |
| 14:43.22 | vixus | OpenTokix, viewing the detailed errors didn't highlight anything in particular. |
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| 14:43.35 | iluminator101 | how do i block ultrasurf on port 9666? |
| 14:43.36 | llutz | robbe-: chmod g+s folder |
| 14:44.35 | robbe- | llutz: ah, thanks |
| 14:45.02 | custy | hello |
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| 14:45.09 | iluminator101 | how do i block port 9666 on localhost |
| 14:45.12 | custy | any1 here to help me please |
| 14:45.13 | llutz | robbe-: man chmod (SETUID AND SETGID BITS) |
| 14:45.26 | wols | !tell custy about ask |
| 14:45.39 | custy | ok |
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| 14:46.47 | custy | what is the current scenerio of tracker of bittorent |
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| 14:47.11 | robbe- | llutz: Ah, so that's what it means. I didn't get it at first. Thanks :) |
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| 14:49.12 | pentanol | hi anybody here use exim? |
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| 14:49.47 | wols | pentanol: ask your real question |
| 14:49.50 | jamesstanley | pentanol: i do |
| 14:49.51 | wols | custy: what do you mean? |
| 14:49.58 | jamesstanley | pentanol: but i don't know a lot about it |
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| 14:50.20 | pentanol | jamesstanley I've got Unrouteable address |
| 14:50.21 | iluminator101 | how do i block port 9666 on localhost |
| 14:50.39 | pentanol | when I sent e-mail to my domain |
| 14:50.42 | jamesstanley | pentanol: sounds like a networking problem, not an exim problem |
| 14:50.48 | custy | i mean "The trackers tips over from time to time because of the load." |
| 14:50.50 | wols | iluminator101: best ask #iptables. but read <smart questions> first |
| 14:51.02 | custy | what trackers are being used |
| 14:51.05 | jamesstanley | pentanol: what happens if you try to ping your ip address from the machine you're sending mail from? |
| 14:51.17 | iluminator101 | #iptables |
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| 14:51.37 | wols | custy: ask a bittorrent channel. this is a debian one to support debian problems. if you want to know what is available in debian: apt-cache search torrent |
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| 14:52.08 | wols | pentanol: tell us the real, and FULL error message you get |
| 14:52.43 | custy | http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2010/RobustBitTorrentInfrastructure i thought it pertains to you |
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| 14:53.28 | zxd_ | but there is a torrent for debian iso |
| 14:53.40 | wols | custy: do you want to help with this SoC project? |
| 14:54.10 | custy | yes |
| 14:54.21 | wols | custy: http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2010#Contactingus.3AMailing-list.2CIRC.2CTwitterandidenti.ca |
| 14:54.29 | custy | no1 is active for that |
| 14:54.56 | pentanol | wols there http://codepad.org/MYamSgAa |
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| 14:55.58 | wols | pentanol: are you sending a mail to "support@domain.com"? |
| 14:56.06 | wols | or rather, trying to send? |
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| 14:56.50 | wols | pentanol: if you are sending mail, send it to a real, existing mailbox somewhere you can access. not some made up address |
| 14:57.02 | Elive_user22_en | Howdy all, I am looking to try Debian. Would you recommend Stable, Testing, or Unstable? |
| 14:57.09 | wols | Elive_user22_en: stable |
| 14:57.28 | Jeff91 | wols Any reasons other than the obvious? |
| 14:57.38 | wols | Jeff91: for what? |
| 14:58.00 | Jeff91 | Stable over testing/unstable |
| 14:58.11 | wols | Jeff91: what do you think the obvious reason is? |
| 14:58.20 | Jeff91 | Software stability |
| 14:58.39 | wols | I doubt you know what "stable" means in the context of debian |
| 14:59.05 | wols | and a new user is ALWAYS told to use stable for many reasons. not the least since he is new to debian |
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| 16:29.15 | jhutchins_lt | KaffeeJunky123: I believe you can do it with cpufreq-set |
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| 16:30.59 | KaffeeJunky123 | jhutchins_lt: I guess I've found out why I couldn't set the behaviours through the applet, I've disabled automaticall sudo stuff ^^ |
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| 16:45.30 | linduxed | ive got a friend that needs to check whether the optical drive is a RW drive or just an R, is there a way to check this with a command? |
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| 16:46.38 | jhutchins_lt | lshw might give you enough info |
| 16:47.46 | wols | dmesg alone should be enough |
| 16:48.00 | JyZyXEL | what was that X window info tool? |
| 16:48.13 | wols | glxinfo? |
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| 16:48.36 | JyZyXEL | no the one that gives information about a certain X window |
| 16:48.48 | JyZyXEL | and perhaps allows to change things like its geometry |
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| 16:52.20 | DowJonesIndices | Does Debian consider Mono/C# to be free software? |
| 16:52.47 | DowJonesIndices | Note to ops: Yes I am the troll, but I'm here today for seriousness. |
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| 16:53.35 | azeem_ | DowJonesIndices: see packages.debian.org |
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| 16:59.22 | niklaswe | hmm any ide about this problem http://www.allow.se/auth-error.txt |
| 16:59.37 | niklaswe | i have the right password in the file.. but it will not work :( |
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| 16:59.58 | EricaCartman | HI))) |
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| 17:05.34 | DowJonesIndices | Yo estoy muy bien. |
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| 17:10.37 | wildc4rd | afternoon all |
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| 17:12.05 | DowJonesIndices | http://pkg-mono.alioth.debian.org/ :) |
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| 17:16.56 | adis__ | anyone using e17?? |
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| 17:17.54 | ido-- | I'm getting a 'error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory' error. I've looked at ldconfig and /usr/lib and I have libstdc++.so.6. How do I fix this ? |
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| 17:19.01 | jelly-home | ido--: which application is having this issue? |
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| 17:20.03 | DowJonesIndices | ido--: This is why Linux isn't ready for the enterprise. |
| 17:20.04 | ido-- | its a binary compiled by someone else |
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| 17:20.55 | ido-- | so how do I install libstdc++ 5 and 6 side-by-side |
| 17:21.04 | DowJonesIndices | However, the drop of support for 16-bit Windows 3.1 legacy Windows applications in 64-bit Windows was very crazy for Microsoft to do. |
| 17:21.37 | jelly-home | ido--: libcstdc++5 isn't available in Debian any more. Either use the distro "someone else" builds for, or ask them to provide a build for Debian 5. |
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| 17:22.17 | MarkGi | Hi, can someone help me sort out some problems I have with my SpamAssassin setup, it doesn't seem as effective as it should be. |
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| 17:23.32 | ido-- | oh. thats a problem. |
| 17:24.12 | DowJonesIndices | ido--: Maybe you can install an older version of Debian inside Xen? |
| 17:24.26 | MarkGi | for example, this only got a score of 1.1 and it's quite obvious it's spam. http://pastebin.com/5WyxeBTL |
| 17:25.04 | jhutchins_lt | ido--: What you need to do is either get a copy of the binary compiled for your system, or get the source and compile it yourself. |
| 17:25.59 | DowJonesIndices | jhutchins, unlikely to happen. |
| 17:26.01 | jhutchins_lt | MarkGi: You can tune it's sensitivity, but I would suggest giving it a slug of spam and ham to learn. |
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| 17:26.29 | DowJonesIndices | That binary has to be at least 3 years old, jhutchins. |
| 17:27.06 | DowJonesIndices | jhutchins: By the way, its is the possessive form. Not to be pedantic. :) |
| 17:27.25 | ido-- | any way around thi |
| 17:27.26 | ido-- | s |
| 17:27.29 | jelly-home | DowJonesIndices: this isn't ##English |
| 17:27.30 | DowJonesIndices | ido--: Yes. |
| 17:27.48 | DowJonesIndices | ido--: Can you use it inside a chroot? |
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| 17:30.04 | DowJonesIndices | jelly-home: Right, hence the brevity of my correction. :) |
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| 17:30.33 | MarkGi | jhutchins_lt: I have trained it on spam, but it's made no difference. will ham training only reduce false positives? |
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| 17:30.42 | gorthaug | hi, i've a problem in squeeze amd64, when i try to reboot my computer whit gnome its drop me to gdm, but with gnome i can turn off the computer |
| 17:30.52 | jelly-home | DowJonesIndices: the smileys don't help, either, just don't do that. |
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| 17:31.33 | jhutchins_lt | MarkGi: Mostly. You can take a look at your config, enable the test listing in the headers. |
| 17:31.46 | DowJonesIndices | ... |
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| 17:33.03 | MarkGi | jhutchins_lt: do you know what setting? As Spamassassin makes it arkward and puts it's plugins and settings in lots of different files.. |
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| 17:34.26 | jhutchins_lt | MarkGi: I really don't know how to tune your system for you, I've spent years reading the docs and going through the confs. |
| 17:35.10 | jhutchins_lt | I think it's one of the best systems out there, but I need postgray and some blacklist scoring as well. |
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| 17:39.00 | manixor | Hi all. How can I make one application, to be lunch on the system start. Like my Bit Torrent Client, I want to automatically run, when I start Debian. |
| 17:39.17 | DowJonesIndices | We don't help with piracy. |
| 17:39.39 | nubcake | torrent != piracy from what i know |
| 17:39.45 | nubcake | no offense though |
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| 17:40.03 | DowJonesIndices | manixor: See Freenode network policy on piracy: http://freenode.net/policy.shtml |
| 17:40.14 | nkuttler | DowJonesIndices: lots of legit uses for torrents... |
| 17:40.19 | manixor | It was just an example. I will change it to Pidgin application. |
| 17:40.32 | nkuttler | manixor: pidgin needs x, doesn't it? |
| 17:40.45 | manixor | Yes. |
| 17:40.56 | DowJonesIndices | I work at CBS. Try telling that to my 84 year old boss. |
| 17:41.10 | nkuttler | DowJonesIndices: that's irrelevant. anyway. |
| 17:41.31 | gorthaug | DowJonesIndices, you can download many Linux distribution with a torrent client, this is piracy? |
| 17:41.36 | DowJonesIndices | nkuttler: On second read, yes. |
| 17:41.51 | DowJonesIndices | manixor: See /etc/rc.local |
| 17:42.04 | DowJonesIndices | Sorry, I didn't read it in context. |
| 17:42.14 | nkuttler | !tell manixor about rc.local |
| 17:42.17 | DowJonesIndices | manixor: What type of program? An X program? |
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| 17:42.38 | DowJonesIndices | If you run an X program, you'd want it to launch after you login. |
| 17:42.48 | DowJonesIndices | *XFree86 |
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| 17:43.21 | manixor | Yes, an X program. |
| 17:43.22 | nkuttler | it's xorg nowadays |
| 17:44.01 | DowJonesIndices | nkuttler: Yes, but he knows what I mean. |
| 17:44.02 | capitan | manixor, are you using gnome? |
| 17:44.18 | manixor | yes |
| 17:44.31 | llutz | manixor: you want to use a client like transmission, which runs as a daemon in background with webfrontend for users |
| 17:44.35 | capitan | system->preferences-> |
| 17:44.37 | DowJonesIndices | manixor: .xinitrc |
| 17:44.51 | capitan | ->startup applications |
| 17:45.08 | DowJonesIndices | llutz: He never said it was a torrent program. |
| 17:45.09 | capitan | manixor, you can add it in there... no need to muck with text files |
| 17:45.42 | llutz | DowJonesIndices: "....Like my Bit Torrent Client,..." no? |
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| 17:45.52 | llutz | DowJonesIndices: better start reading |
| 17:46.15 | manixor | capitan I don't have startup applications, what group manage that? |
| 17:46.18 | DowJonesIndices | llutz: I interpreted that as it is not a bit torrent client, but starts automatically like a bit torrent client. |
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| 17:46.31 | capitan | manixor, are you on stable, testing, or unstable? |
| 17:46.40 | manixor | capitan stable |
| 17:46.41 | capitan | manixor, it may have been called "sessions" or something before |
| 17:46.45 | capitan | i'm on testing now |
| 17:46.57 | capitan | manixor, ya, then look for something like "sessions" |
| 17:47.21 | llutz | DowJonesIndices: feel free |
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| 17:48.46 | capitan | llutz, DowJonesIndices... stop bickering kids! |
| 17:49.12 | DowJonesIndices | In any case, torrent even for works that are public domain or copyleft is abusive because it is contrarian to the client-server model that is inherent in the design of the Internet. |
| 17:49.29 | AimHere | WTF? I thought the net was inherently Peer to Peer |
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| 17:49.36 | llutz | DowJonesIndices: stop that FUD please |
| 17:49.39 | DowJonesIndices | AimHere, no. |
| 17:49.43 | AimHere | Umm, yes |
| 17:49.56 | jelly-home | DowJonesIndices: this isn't topical for #debian. If you have an Freenode usage complaint, go to #freenode |
| 17:50.05 | DowJonesIndices | Okay. |
| 17:50.06 | capitan | DowJonesIndices, wtf are you talking about? |
| 17:50.12 | DowJonesIndices | I'm going to get off IRC and back to work. |
| 17:50.57 | llutz | i should have read it earlier [17:52:47] <DowJonesIndices> Note to ops: Yes I am the troll, |
| 17:51.27 | jelly-home | yes, he did telegraph it, which sitll is no excuse |
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| 17:53.49 | jelly-home | considering the wide, unconnected range of flaming topics DowJonesIndices invoked so far: mono; grammar; bittorrent=piracy; repeated offtopic tangents, I'd say trolling was the primary goal |
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| 17:54.54 | capitan | jelly-home, gotta admit though... that last bittorrent one was kinda funny |
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| 17:55.03 | capitan | kicks himself for walking into it... |
| 17:55.09 | capitan | manixor, find your answer? |
| 17:55.23 | manixor | capitan Yes, thank's. |
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| 17:55.42 | capitan | no prob |
| 17:55.49 | yuger | hi , wats "debian-update-5.0.4-i386-CD-1.iso" at the end of this page http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.4/i386/iso-cd/ , is it newer version of debian 5 or just update ??? |
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| 17:56.50 | jelly-home | yuger: this is just a bundle of latest critical and security updates to 5.0 |
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| 17:57.19 | jelly-home | yuger: the same thing you'd get by ugrading lenny from the repositories |
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| 17:57.33 | yuger | ok |
| 17:58.01 | yuger | and why there are sooo many isos ? |
| 17:58.05 | yuger | 31 images |
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| 17:58.26 | jhutchins_lt | yuger: How many packages do you have installed? |
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| 17:58.49 | Sebby | i own a private network and i need to know what and how can i use to limit the download/upload speed for each client in Internet and LAN , i use for the router server Debian5 + dhcp3-server + dnsmasq [amsg] |
| 17:58.57 | jhutchins_lt | Oh, sorry, I misunderstood. |
| 17:59.04 | Csow | how do I make sure my /etc/resolv.conf does not get update |
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| 17:59.21 | Tass` | Csow, ose .head or .tail |
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| 17:59.24 | jelly-home | yuger: most of them are mainly useful for people without an internet connection |
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| 17:59.51 | yuger | no one , , which iso to download for graphic install some de ? |
| 17:59.52 | jelly-home | !tell yuger about netinst |
| 17:59.58 | Csow | Tass I dont get what you mena |
| 17:59.59 | jhutchins_lt | Sebby: You'll need to look into QOS systems. |
| 17:59.59 | Csow | mean |
| 18:00.34 | DowJonesIndices | Sebby: A throttle is the mechanism by which the flow of a information through tubes is managed by constriction or obstruction. |
| 18:00.54 | yuger | what i ill get in first cd , i mean gonome etc ? |
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| 18:00.57 | yuger | gnome* |
| 18:01.10 | Sebby | and an other PROBLEM: each time i reboot the debian router the eth1 ip is deleted so when comes up i have no ip on eth1 and have to set it manually ..anny ideea how can this be solved |
| 18:01.20 | jhutchins_lt | yuger: I think there's a gnome and a kde. |
| 18:01.33 | yuger | okay |
| 18:01.35 | yuger | ty :) |
| 18:01.37 | DowJonesIndices | Sebby: http://lartc.org/wondershaper/ |
| 18:01.37 | jhutchins_lt | Sebby: man interfaces. |
| 18:01.44 | jelly-home | yuger: gnome by default if you install the desktop task, yes |
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| 18:02.19 | yuger | ok |
| 18:02.28 | jhutchins_lt | dpkg: networking? |
| 18:02.28 | dpkg | somebody said networking was "For basic networking "man interfaces", http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration , and http://www.debian-administration.org/article/An_introduction_to_Debian_networking_setup |
| 18:02.29 | Sebby | i`ve used man interfaces and tried to set in interfaces but nothing good so far |
| 18:02.47 | DowJonesIndices | Google > man |
| 18:02.56 | manixor | I have a Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd USB 2.0 Camera, with microphone incorporated. My camera work perfect, on Skype, on cheese to, but my microphone not. It need special configuration to make the microphone work? |
| 18:03.12 | DowJonesIndices | Sebby: If there's anything good in man, they'll be a link from Google anyway. :) |
| 18:03.24 | DowJonesIndices | Sebby: Have you looked at the wondershaper script? |
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| 18:03.47 | cahoot | manixor: look at /proc/asound/cards - what card# correlates to the cam? |
| 18:03.50 | jhutchins_lt | manixor: If no-one here has dealt with that particular camera you might find something with google. |
| 18:03.52 | jelly-home | !ops DowJonesIndices repeated trolling and misleading "help", so far: mono; grammar naziing; bittorrent=piracy; offtopic tangents |
| 18:03.52 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: jelly-home complains about: DowJonesIndices repeated trolling and misleading "help", so far: mono; grammar naziing; bittorrent=piracy; offtopic tangents |
| 18:04.44 | DowJonesIndices | What's offtopic about a traffic shaping script? |
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| 18:05.01 | cahoot | manixor: alsamixer -c# should give you opportunity to unmute and set levels |
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| 18:05.32 | jelly-home | azeem, DowJonesIndices: it's completely unrelated to user's question. A red herring. |
| 18:05.36 | manixor | cahoot This is there: 0 [SB ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB HDA ATI SB at 0xf8700000 irq 16 |
| 18:06.07 | DowJonesIndices | jelly-home: Also, the mono question was topical. I was asking if Debian maintained a mono package, and if there were any differences. |
| 18:06.17 | cahoot | manixor: it si a usb-cam? |
| 18:06.48 | JyZyXEL | DowJonesIndices: try apt-cache search and read the documentation of the package |
| 18:07.10 | DowJonesIndices | Yeah, I'm going to do that once Debian is installed. |
| 18:07.13 | cahoot | manixor: scratch that - see if modprobe snd-usb-audio makes any difference |
| 18:07.14 | JyZyXEL | all the debian related changes are usually documented in there |
| 18:07.14 | manixor | cahoot Yes, it's an usb cam, but incorporated. On lsusb I get this: Bus 006 Device 003: ID 04f2:b008 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd USB 2.0 Camera |
| 18:07.26 | DowJonesIndices | Thanks JyZyXEL. :-) |
| 18:07.33 | JyZyXEL | DowJonesIndices: if you wanna check beforehand try packages.debian.org |
| 18:07.38 | azeem | DowJonesIndices: if you don't have a Debian qustion, please keep quiet or leave |
| 18:07.53 | jelly-home | DowJonesIndices: none of what you did during the last hour was remotely topical, since this channel is about tech support and you neither requested nor provided correct answers to one |
| 18:08.29 | jelly-home | azeem: he'll just drag it out as far as it goes |
| 18:09.51 | DowJonesIndices | azeem: That was my Debian question (mono). And I am satisfied with JyZyXEL's answer, unless anyone else can answer more specifically. |
| 18:10.13 | azeem | DowJonesIndices: if you don't have any other Debian questions, please keep quiet or leave |
| 18:10.30 | capitan | DowJonesIndices, try wondershaper for that |
| 18:10.31 | manixor | cahoot I have a sound recorder, and it seem not working. |
| 18:10.44 | azeem | capitan: for mono? |
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| 18:11.19 | cahoot | manixor: the cam shows up in /proc/asound/cards now? |
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| 18:11.43 | capitan | azeem, lol... maybe you didn't see his very relevant wondershaper answer before |
| 18:12.15 | DowJonesIndices | ... |
| 18:12.40 | manixor | cahoot 0 [SB ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB HDA ATI SB at 0xf8700000 irq 16 - the same |
| 18:12.41 | jelly-home | capitan: that was a complete red herring, dude. Wondershaper has nothing to do with permament configuration of an IP address. |
| 18:12.55 | capitan | i know... |
| 18:13.10 | azeem | so what are you talking about? |
| 18:13.15 | jelly-home | "oh noes, I'm all unjustly accused of being a troll! Woe is me!" |
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| 18:13.20 | manixor | cahoot I blacklist the pcspkr, can be this the reson? |
| 18:13.26 | cahoot | manixor: sorry still on square one - google on linux + its usbid |
| 18:13.27 | capitan | that's why i referred him to wondershaper for package queries |
| 18:13.46 | azeem | capitan: how is this helpful? |
| 18:13.55 | capitan | he obviously wasn't here to be helpful |
| 18:14.00 | capitan | quite the opposite actually |
| 18:14.06 | azeem | so you're trolling? |
| 18:14.19 | jelly-home | capitan: any further commenting is jsut playing to the troll's tune. Let's continue in #debian-offtopic, it you wish. |
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| 18:15.19 | Jef91 | So I just installed Lenny on my system, when I installed it the system was offline |
| 18:15.35 | capitan | well he's gone now... and i'd prefer not to spend any more keystrokes on him |
| 18:15.49 | Jef91 | When I connected it to the internet my sources.list only contained the install CD in it.... What does the default sources.list look like? |
| 18:15.57 | Jef91 | So I can actually install software :-/ |
| 18:15.59 | azeem | !sources.list |
| 18:15.59 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 18:16.20 | capitan | Jef91, as far as i remember, that's how it comes by default |
| 18:16.37 | capitan | and you actually can install software... just not up to date software |
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| 18:17.06 | capitan | add a few lines to mirrors and you're good to go :) |
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| 18:19.14 | gbear14275 | I just installed debian from usb and am having a hard time booting from grub. I've tried a howto to repair grub but am still having a hard time... anyone able to help? |
| 18:19.40 | gbear14275 | its grub2 so its a little different |
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| 18:21.33 | capitan | anyone else on testing or sid get something about "system policy" asking for root's password when you try to reboot... and it reboots regardless of whether you enter it or not? |
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| 18:21.59 | n-iCe | hi |
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| 18:22.32 | capitan | n-iCe, h-i ;) |
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| 18:33.59 | Zyferus | OH YAY i think i borked my Debian box! |
| 18:35.06 | Zyferus | never completes booting, then repeats: pluto[1854]: ignoring duplicate netlink acquire event for 192.168.0.194 to 192.168.0.1 |
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| 18:35.13 | Zyferus | 0.1 is the router |
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| 18:36.39 | Zyferus | this came after installing IPSEC VPN package, not enabled, just installed |
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| 18:40.37 | Zyferus | i would appreciate any ideas for resolving this, hopfully w.o reisntalling Debian |
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| 18:42.39 | jez9999 | Hi all. My rc.local has a script in it that sets up my iptables firewall, however I'm not able to access DNS on the box. Could anyone tell me why this would be? Here's the script: http://pastebin.com/5zmPUuCu |
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| 18:43.48 | mentor | jez9999: You are running a DNS server on that box, which you want to access from a remote location? |
| 18:44.17 | jez9999 | no |
| 18:44.23 | jez9999 | i cant access DNS from that box |
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| 18:45.50 | mentor | jez9999: You haven't got an INPUT rule allowing traffic in from your outgoing connections |
| 18:46.16 | jez9999 | "iptables -A INPUT -i $WAN_IFACE -p tcp --destination-port 53 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT" |
| 18:46.23 | Zyferus | is everyone that is away unsure about my issue? |
| 18:46.54 | Zyferus | away = awake |
| 18:47.00 | mentor | jez9999: That doesn't allow traffic in corresponding to your outgoing connections |
| 18:47.08 | jez9999 | what would? |
| 18:47.11 | llutz | jez9999: -sport 53 |
| 18:47.29 | mentor | llutz: That's not a great solution |
| 18:47.33 | jez9999 | does that state thing work on UDP connections, or just TCP? |
| 18:47.42 | jez9999 | can it detect an 'established' udp connection? |
| 18:47.50 | tabris|away | no |
| 18:47.52 | tabris|away | b/c there's no such thing |
| 18:48.08 | jez9999 | so you must always open UDP port 53 |
| 18:48.27 | mentor | There is an approximated connection tracker for UDP |
| 18:48.54 | jelly-home | jez9999: _however_, Linux stack tracks related udp datagrams. |
| 18:49.13 | jhutchins_lt | Zyferus: Which package(s) did you install for ipsec vpn? |
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| 18:49.35 | jez9999 | so what rules do i need to just say incoming traffic for established tcp/udp connections is allowed? |
| 18:49.38 | jelly-home | that's why conntrack table on my dnscache machine has 30-50k entries at any time :-| |
| 18:49.38 | mentor | There's a RELATED state as well as ESTABLISHED |
| 18:49.53 | mentor | jelly-home: Reduce the timeouts |
| 18:49.57 | rfranknj | what determines the default application used for a specific filetype? i'm not using gnome or kde so i dont have an app to configure this |
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| 18:50.03 | mentor | They're exceedingly conservative |
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| 18:50.09 | jelly-home | mentor: they were at 60k before I did that. |
| 18:50.13 | mentor | arg |
| 18:50.30 | jelly-home | hitting the default conntrack limit of 64k |
| 18:50.36 | Zyferus | jhutchins: FreeSWAN |
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| 18:51.19 | jhutchins_lt | rfranknj: /etc/mime.types |
| 18:51.31 | jez9999 | "iptables -A INPUT -i $WAN_IFACE -p tcp -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT" |
| 18:51.35 | jez9999 | "iptables -A INPUT -i $WAN_IFACE -p udp -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT" |
| 18:51.38 | jhutchins_lt | rfranknj: Are you using a desktop? |
| 18:51.39 | jez9999 | would those work? |
| 18:51.48 | mentor | jez9999: SIAS |
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| 18:52.13 | jez9999 | eh? |
| 18:52.19 | mentor | Suck it and see |
| 18:52.23 | jelly-home | rfranknj: man update-mime, and related pages referenced in there (mailcap.order) |
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| 18:52.29 | jez9999 | but there must be a well-defined way of doing this |
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| 18:53.26 | Zyferus | jhutchins-it: it was FreeSWAN |
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| 18:53.48 | jhutchins_lt | Zyferus: Only thing I can think of right now is uninstall it and see if it works. (I realize this isn't an ultimate solution.) |
| 18:54.09 | jhutchins_lt | Zyferus: I don't know the rest of your software environment, or even which release you're on. |
| 18:54.39 | idle | I have built some dpkgs from source, but now whenever I try to apt-get upgrade, it wants to remove my source versions and replace them with the repository versions of the same version... how do I prevent that? |
| 18:54.54 | Zyferus | jhutchins_lt: it's Lenny, no DE and i can;t even get it to boot completly to be able to login and uninstall the package |
| 18:55.03 | Lateralus | idle: bump the versions of yours higher than the repo version |
| 18:55.32 | jhutchins_lt | idle: look into pinning, make sure you're building debs and installing them rather than just make install. |
| 18:55.47 | idle | yea, I am, thats how it knows they're installed :) |
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| 18:56.21 | idle | damnit, google comes up with "obsolete documentation" :( |
| 18:56.44 | wols | !hold |
| 18:56.44 | dpkg | hold is, like, a status flag that tells the package manager not to automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package: 'echo <package> hold|dpkg --set-selections'. It is also possible to use aptitude: 'aptitude hold <package>'. Note that the hold flag set using aptitude might be ignored by other package managers (i.e. Update Manager and Synaptic), but aptitude will respect the hold set in the dpkg database. |
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| 18:56.53 | Zyferus | is there a way i can so a minimal boot, so that it doesn;t try to load any unnessessarry packages and i can possibly uninstall it that way? |
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| 18:57.03 | Zyferus | so = do |
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| 18:58.10 | wols | Zyferus: boot in rescue mode |
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| 18:58.37 | Zyferus | wols: I did that and am recieveg the same result |
| 18:58.37 | wols | Zyferus: or even use the kernel commandline init=/bin/bash that way you can make sure it will boot |
| 18:59.15 | capitan | oh... interesting ... wols, i didn't know about that "hold" thing... any pros/cons between that and apt-pinning? |
| 18:59.23 | wols | and if that doesn't work, you boot a live cd, chroot to your debian install and uninstall the vpn package |
| 18:59.35 | Zyferus | k |
| 18:59.42 | capitan | besides that that looks less painful to set up? :P |
| 18:59.51 | idle | wols: fantastic! thanks! |
| 19:00.09 | idle | now, if only freeradius could add eap/tls support properly in the repo version :( |
| 19:00.36 | jhutchins_lt | Zyferus: I don't know if "Rescue Mode" is the same as Single User Mode, if not you could try that. |
| 19:00.39 | wols | idle: file a bug. /msg dpkg reportbug |
| 19:00.57 | jhutchins_lt | Zyferus: If that fails you'll need to boot to a live image and rescue it from there (maybe via chroot). |
| 19:01.01 | idle | I think its a license thing... much like calling "firefox" as "iceweasle" |
| 19:01.28 | jhutchins_lt | idle: I think you're right, like mschap. |
| 19:01.38 | idle | yea |
| 19:01.42 | wols | jhutchins_lt: Du zweimal den gleichen nimmst ^^ |
| 19:01.47 | wols | grah. ECHAN |
| 19:02.07 | wols | jhutchins_lt: inux/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30-2-686 root=UUID=8e5e8b5d-3c6a-4568-b4dd-93d4a0d233aa ro single this is a recovery mode line |
| 19:02.30 | idle | anyhow, thanks for the help! |
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| 19:03.41 | jhutchins_lt | wols: So it's the same thing. |
| 19:03.49 | wols | yep |
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| 19:03.59 | jhutchins_lt | wols: Is that what the german means? You twice the same take? |
| 19:04.07 | bolt | is there normally a TimRiker in here? i have a problem with apt (the bot) |
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| 19:04.08 | wols | hmm.. when did debian start to ues UUID syntax for grub. grub2 newness? |
| 19:04.27 | wols | jhutchins_lt: take the same one twice |
| 19:04.39 | valdyn | wols: grub2 doesnt |
| 19:04.53 | jhutchins_lt | wols: I think grub upstream has been doing that. |
| 19:05.04 | jhutchins_lt | wols: Helps with the ordering problem of a mixed ATA/SATA system. |
| 19:05.15 | valdyn | jhutchins_lt: uuid requires an initrd |
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| 19:06.44 | wols | valdyn: it really does? right now there is a debian kernel but usually I use self compiled ones. and they are always initrd-less... |
| 19:06.54 | wols | bad mojo in the future with update-grub I guess |
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| 19:08.02 | _Brandon_ | hi, if I use software raid, does linux automatically detects when a disk fails(using smart or something else) and set the disk as failed in the raid? |
| 19:08.47 | dvs | _Brandon_: yes |
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| 19:09.09 | valdyn | wols: Im not sure, but i read this one: http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/6/15/21 |
| 19:09.11 | _Brandon_ | dvs: thanks |
| 19:09.15 | dvs | np |
| 19:10.37 | Zyferus | i was able to break into the boot process and enter a 'maintenance mode' taht gave me a cmd prompt |
| 19:10.46 | dvs | valdyn: that's from 2005 |
| 19:11.02 | valdyn | dvs: sure, but i dont think that changed |
| 19:11.19 | jhutchins_lt | Is there a way to make linux raid notify you if a disk fails? |
| 19:11.30 | wols | the kernel usually doesn't even deal with /dev/sdX. it deals with device node numbers, nothing else |
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| 19:11.35 | dvs | valdyn: that UUID don't work or that it is required for grub2? |
| 19:11.53 | valdyn | maybe grub would do the translation, i dont know |
| 19:12.06 | wols | dvs: grub doesn't care about UUIDs either. all grub cares aboutis BIOS hdd dirve numbers 0x80 andup |
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| 19:12.36 | jez9999 | http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialIptablesNetworkGateway.html |
| 19:12.47 | jez9999 | ^ In this page, does anyone know what 'trancas' means? |
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| 19:13.12 | dvs | wonders if we'll need a grub3 for efi |
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| 19:13.22 | wols | jez9999: hostname |
| 19:13.32 | wols | grub is modular. so probably not |
| 19:13.49 | gbear14275 | anyone have experience with debian and grub2? just installed debian as a triple boot but the grub menu says it can't find the uuid.... tried running some grub repair howto's but no luck |
| 19:14.05 | valdyn | dvs: that using root=UUID=foo requires the translation to be done by the initrd |
| 19:14.11 | jez9999 | wols: what is it, 'hostname' in another language?? |
| 19:14.26 | wols | no. a hostnamed. like your debian box is named "debian" by default |
| 19:14.40 | wols | or like alioth.debian.org is named alioth, etc |
| 19:14.40 | jez9999 | oh |
| 19:14.46 | jez9999 | why did they bother putting that line there |
| 19:14.56 | dvs | valdyn: That's what I thought happened. It's done by initrd and not by grub. |
| 19:15.05 | valdyn | dvs: i suspect grub2 might be able to do it though, theres a uuid plugin |
| 19:15.07 | wols | to show you can use symbolic names and not just IPs? |
| 19:15.42 | gbear14275 | that or I may have messed up during my install. When I formatted my partition i didn't make it "bootable" because I assumed what was meant was it would rewrite the grub install... which I didn't want to do. |
| 19:15.53 | valdyn | dvs: ...which might only load a kernel from an uuid or additionally translate the root=, no idea |
| 19:16.33 | jhutchins_lt | jez9999: trancas is a financial services company afaik. |
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| 19:16.34 | valdyn | dvs: or actually, grub2 cant do it, because it doesnt know the mapping |
| 19:16.49 | valdyn | dvs: that still leaves the initrd as only option |
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| 19:17.03 | dvs | yup |
| 19:17.03 | factor | is the eclipse IDE in debian repo? |
| 19:17.06 | dvs | agreed |
| 19:17.16 | dvs | factor: not for testing |
| 19:17.21 | jhutchins_lt | jez9999: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/ - that's the one I use. |
| 19:17.31 | factor | oh ok thanks |
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| 19:18.50 | wad | Hi guys. My trusty debian fileserver is having problems. It keeps locking up hard. NUM-LOCK on the keyboard doesn't even make the keyboard LED change. Anyone seen anything like this before? |
| 19:19.12 | wad | It's been working happily for four years now. |
| 19:19.15 | wols | of course. faulty hardware has a habit of crashing for example |
| 19:19.28 | wols | newsflash: stuff get old. and then it breaks |
| 19:20.05 | wad | wols, your wisdom is profound. ;) Have you seen this before, and if so, what hardware? CPU, RAM? |
| 19:20.14 | wad | I built the box myself. |
| 19:20.47 | wols | wad: do you always ring your garage when your car suddenly doesn't start anymore and ask the mechanic "could it be the battery? the motor? the starter"? |
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| 19:21.01 | wols | if yes, what does your mechanic say? |
| 19:21.38 | wad | I guess I'll just start replacing stuff. |
| 19:21.48 | wols | I'd start with a serial console |
| 19:22.07 | wols | depends how "mission critical" the fileserver is of course |
| 19:22.07 | gbear14275 | anyone able to help me diagnose why grub isn't picking up my newly installed debian system? |
| 19:22.18 | xingu | I'd start by checking how filthy the fans, filters (if any), and intake vents were ;) |
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| 19:22.55 | wols | gbear14275: /msg dpkg anyone /msg dpkg errors |
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| 19:23.52 | gbear14275 | wols... not following |
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| 19:24.41 | cahoot | gbear14275: he wants you to provide some error message |
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| 19:25.24 | wols | and ask smarter questions. much smarter ones |
| 19:25.32 | gbear14275 | the error message is something along the lines of uuid-laskjfd;lakdsjf;lkajds;lfkajds;f not found... press any key to continue (at which point I return to the grub boot menu) |
| 19:25.35 | kensanata | I'm trying to figure out why logrotate on this server stopped working more than a year ago. I see a file called /etc/logrotate.d/000-foo that contains the right settings. How can I start debugging this without messing up the system? |
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| 19:26.03 | kensanata | ie. how does logrotate know that it must go through all the files in /etc/logrotate.d? |
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| 19:26.52 | wols | kensanata: it uses run-parts iirc |
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| 19:28.53 | gbear14275 | ok... how about this... grub2 self generates correct? So which files to I need to delete so that grub 2 goes through again and re-installs itself... seems like the best way to do this (open to other suggestions also). |
| 19:29.01 | kensanata | wols: Hm, I see that /etc/logrotate.conf says include /etc/logrotate.d. According to the manual, that seems like the right thing to do. |
| 19:29.26 | dvs | gbear14275: run "update-grub"? |
| 19:29.43 | gbear14275 | dvs I believe I have already but I'll give it another try |
| 19:30.46 | cahoot | gbear14275: compare the uuid in grub.conf withe one corresponding to the intended device? |
| 19:31.18 | gbear14275 | dvs: I apologize, I don't think I have run that... OR... I haven't run it before and got that result. pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/398927/ |
| 19:31.32 | gbear14275 | looks like it found it... I have to reboot though to check |
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| 19:32.11 | gbear14275 | cahoot: I find my uuid's with fdisk correct? |
| 19:32.46 | cahoot | gbear14275: blkid |
| 19:33.05 | cahoot | gbear14275: also - is this really debian? |
| 19:33.52 | gbear14275 | cahoot: trying to get debian running... on ubuntu right now. debian will be my triple boot with xp hanging around for reason unknown now |
| 19:35.01 | gbear14275 | that was bad grammer... but yes, this is really related to me getting debian working (my ubuntu works perfectly) |
| 19:35.21 | Sebby | does annyone know a packege for debian5 to limit the internet and/or LAN bandwith ..and also why usualy an network interface (eth1 in my case) after reboot has no ip but it i ifconfig eth1 xxx.xx.xx.xx and restart networking the ip remains as it should be |
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| 19:36.36 | Sebby | and don`t tell me about man interfaces cause i allready did tha and this is my interfaces file: http://pastebin.ca/1848351 |
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| 19:37.38 | dvs | Sebby: I think line 10 should be "static" instead of "manual" |
| 19:37.56 | dvs | Sebby: line 16 I should say |
| 19:37.57 | gbear14275 | alright... hopefully will be back with good news |
| 19:38.06 | cahoot | as per the man page? |
| 19:38.09 | gbear14275 | dvs... before I go, do you have a favorite project? |
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| 19:38.10 | dondelelcaro | Sebby: and you're missing a bunch of identations, and your pre-up command is in the wrong stanza |
| 19:38.36 | dvs | gbear14275: favorite project? like what? |
| 19:38.54 | gbear14275 | I'm still a little too green to be able to pay forward expertise, but I decided a while back to pitch in to favorite projects of people who help me in IRC |
| 19:39.10 | gbear14275 | aka... going to donate some cash to whatever you name... |
| 19:39.14 | dvs | dondelelcaro: the indentation is important? I thought it was only visual. |
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| 19:40.00 | Sebby | so what do i have to modify add/... in interface? |
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| 19:40.25 | gbear14275 | doesn't have to be linux related either... the last person who helped me said heifer international... so I bought a portion of a waterbuffalo for some poor village somewhere |
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| 19:41.15 | dondelelcaro | dvs: I'm actually not sure; I always assumed that it was, and the documentation doesn't specifiy |
| 19:41.17 | gbear14275 | but if your advice fixed it for me... want to get your request before I go... so I can say thanks if I miss you |
| 19:41.27 | dvs | dondelelcaro: I'm not sure either. |
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| 19:43.05 | gbear14275 | dvs... any requests? |
| 19:45.00 | dvs | gbear14275: no particular request |
| 19:48.02 | Sebby | i modified line 16 as dvs said but i don`t understand this: |
| 19:48.04 | Sebby | <dondelelcaro> Sebby: and you're missing a bunch of identations, and your pre-up command is in the wrong stanza |
| 19:48.43 | dvs | Sebby: the "auto" and "iface" should be flush with the left margin. Everything else should be indented. |
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| 19:49.31 | llutz | indenting is just an optical thing, won't affect function |
| 19:50.16 | dvs | Sebby: You really only need one "auto" line with all the interfaces that you want to go up automatically. |
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| 19:57.23 | Dez | hi |
| 19:57.44 | digilink | hey guys, what does it mean if I try to install a package using apt and it is "set to manually installed"? |
| 19:57.59 | Nick00 | when i mysql -u usr -ppass -h host.com - is there any place this will get logged in the linux system? apart from .bash_history? |
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| 19:58.28 | maligor | digilink, that autoremove won't try to remove it |
| 19:58.48 | digilink | hmm ok |
| 19:58.49 | Dez | whether these entries in crontab is correct? http://wklej.to/hMlU |
| 19:59.16 | Sebby | dvs can you please modify my interfaces please to work as it souposed to (eth0=internet wire;over eth0 is ppp0=pppoe connection eth1=private network and also the interface wich after rebooting the rooter has no ip) |
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| 20:00.14 | Dez | whether these entries in crontab is correct? http://wklej.to/hMlU |
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| 20:12.36 | koskela | hello |
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| 20:15.07 | koskela | How can I set default resolution for whole X-system? I mean, gdm and my de has too big resolution. I can change it with xrandr, but how to make it permanent? |
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| 20:15.59 | Arrowmaster | you can create an xorg.conf and set the possible resolutions in there |
| 20:16.27 | koskela | How I do that? |
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| 20:16.44 | Arrowmaster | man xorg.conf |
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| 20:18.05 | linduxed | where does ssh keep its logs |
| 20:18.14 | linduxed | of failed connection attempts |
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| 20:18.18 | asg | linduxed: /var/log/auth and /var/log/syslog |
| 20:18.26 | linduxed | asg: will check |
| 20:18.41 | asg | linduxed: sorry, that was /var/log/auth.log |
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| 20:20.37 | simonrvn | koskela: X -configure |
| 20:20.54 | capitan | does anyone know where ctools stores where it looks for it's css cache directory? i've moved a site directory from default to mydomain.com, and now i get "Unable to create CTools CSS cache directory" |
| 20:21.01 | capitan | whoops wrong channel |
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| 20:21.25 | capitan | sorry :-S |
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| 20:21.47 | gbear14275 | I'm sorry I |
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| 20:22.12 | gbear14275 | 'm back so soon, but I'm getting a archive type not supported error from this .deb package... http://packages.debian.org/lenny/all/firmware-iwlwifi/download |
| 20:22.40 | simonrvn | gbear14275: update your dpkg |
| 20:22.51 | gbear14275 | ok, will do thanks |
| 20:23.12 | simonrvn | i.e. upgrade to lenny if you haven't done so already |
| 20:23.31 | gbear14275 | this is lenny :-/ |
| 20:23.42 | wiretapped | what can't read lenny debs?! |
| 20:23.49 | gbear14275 | simonrvn: which pacakge will update dpkg? |
| 20:23.53 | wiretapped | etch can |
| 20:24.08 | wiretapped | gbear14275: dpkg... but i dont think thats your problem |
| 20:24.11 | simonrvn | maybe it's corruprted ? |
| 20:24.17 | simonrvn | no, it isn't |
| 20:24.24 | gbear14275 | its a brand new 5.03 install... wont connect to wireless so I'm trying to get that firmware updated... and now it won't recognize the .deb's |
| 20:24.26 | simonrvn | corrupted |
| 20:24.45 | gbear14275 | install is corrupted? |
| 20:24.57 | wiretapped | more likely that deb |
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| 20:25.05 | gbear14275 | argh... k I'll try again |
| 20:25.12 | gbear14275 | this is the second time its happened |
| 20:25.26 | gbear14275 | 1st time I had the sid package though so attributed it to that |
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| 20:25.54 | gbear14275 | brb |
| 20:26.11 | simonrvn | the deb |
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| 20:26.28 | linduxed | when one of my comps tries do ssh into my server i just get "Connection closed by xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" |
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| 20:26.44 | linduxed | where x is my servers IP |
| 20:26.47 | linduxed | nothing more |
| 20:26.51 | gbear14275 | wiretapped: btw... no .deb package named dpkg in this list at least: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/allpackages |
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| 20:27.11 | linduxed | ive added the computers id_rsa.pub key to authorized_keys |
| 20:27.23 | asg | linduxed: the server may have tcpwrappers configured to not allow access from your IP. |
| 20:27.23 | wols | ,versions dpkg |
| 20:27.26 | judd | dpkg -- etch: 1.13.26; lenny: 1.14.28; lenny-security: 1.14.29; sid: 1.15.5.6; squeeze: 1.15.5.6; experimental: 1.15.6 |
| 20:27.26 | dpkg | judd: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 20:27.40 | wols | !botwar |
| 20:27.40 | dpkg | apt2: pfft |
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| 20:28.33 | asg | linduxed: if not, then make sure the permissions on your $HOME/.ssh (server-side) are 0700 and the authorized_keys file 600 (or 750 / 640) |
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| 20:29.35 | linduxed | asg: will check |
| 20:29.59 | asg | linduxed: if that doesn't help, /msg dpkg debug ssh |
| 20:31.07 | linduxed | asg: trying with that chmod trick |
| 20:31.12 | linduxed | forgot you had to do that |
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| 20:35.05 | linduxed | asg: the thing that makes me extra irritated is that the computer gets connection closed, but there is no trace left of the connection attempt |
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| 20:35.48 | linduxed | asg: lets say that the user trying to log in is called "user" |
| 20:36.18 | asg | linduxed: does /msg dpkg debug ssh provide any extra information? |
| 20:36.33 | linduxed | asg: there is no sign of "user" when i do "cat /var/log/* | grep user" |
| 20:37.02 | linduxed | asg: except for me creating the account |
| 20:37.09 | asg | linduxed: then it is getting dropped before sshd gets involved |
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| 20:37.19 | linduxed | asg: sounds reasonable |
| 20:37.24 | asg | linduxed: either tcpwrappers or iptables (perhaps) |
| 20:37.30 | gbear14275 | no luck redownloading the .deb |
| 20:37.35 | linduxed | asg: i think ive got iptables on |
| 20:37.47 | asg | linduxed: I'm out of batteries, so I must go. I'm sure someone else can assist if I drop off |
| 20:37.50 | linduxed | asg: but i'm a newbie when it comes to them |
| 20:37.54 | linduxed | asg: sure |
| 20:38.01 | gbear14275 | still getting archive type not supported |
| 20:38.18 | xevz | What's going on here? http://paste.debian.net/65248/ |
| 20:38.32 | hid3 | Good evening everyone. I was beind DDoS |
| 20:38.48 | hid3 | Good evening everyone. I was beind DDoS'ed last night. Here's what I've got in my dmesg: http://pastebin.org/119496 |
| 20:39.01 | hid3 | Any ideas out of which memory might I be? |
| 20:39.24 | hid3 | free -m displays all swap space free so that must not be the total physical memory which ran out |
| 20:39.34 | hid3 | BTW, I use recent matches in my iptables rules. |
| 20:39.45 | xevz | I purged the packages from my install, rebooted, cleaned cache, installed them, it still says API mismatch. |
| 20:39.51 | jelly-home | hid3: what's that, dmesg output? Have you tried to google that exact message? |
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| 20:40.40 | jhutchins_lt | hid3: It didn't have enough memory allocated to create an additional network socket. |
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| 20:41.04 | jhutchins_lt | hid3: You probably didn't run out of physical memory, but you might have. It wouldn't show up once the attack stopped. |
| 20:41.10 | xevz | Ah, got it. Found another nvidia.ko. :( |
| 20:41.15 | hid3 | jelly-home: yes, it's a dmesg snip. Yes, I've tried. Only a few non-informative results. |
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| 20:41.31 | xevz | (moved it to /tmp temporarily, it worked) |
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| 20:41.45 | hid3 | jhutchins_lt: any ideas how can I allocate more memory for my network stack? |
| 20:41.50 | jhutchins_lt | linduxed: check the auth log. |
| 20:41.57 | linduxed | jhutchins_lt: will do |
| 20:42.05 | jelly-home | hid3: was there anything useful in the log of the attacked application? |
| 20:42.15 | jhutchins_lt | hid3: I'd look at setting up a firewall, preferably upstream of the server. |
| 20:42.23 | linduxed | jhutchins_lt: hmmm ive got some that are gzipped |
| 20:42.26 | jhutchins_lt | hid3: Run something like logwatch, throttle ports that get flooded like that, |
| 20:42.33 | linduxed | jhutchins_lt: is there a cat for gz? |
| 20:42.46 | linduxed | oh wait, zcat |
| 20:42.48 | jelly-home | linduxed: zcat? zless? |
| 20:43.10 | jhutchins_lt | linduxed: THere's a version of less that handles them automatically - ah, jelly-home knows, zless. Or you can just gunzip it then less. |
| 20:43.24 | jhutchins_lt | linduxed: less/zless allows you to scroll back and forth and search. |
| 20:43.26 | hideo | vim, most |
| 20:43.47 | hid3 | jelly-home: nothing. It was just a short time SYN flood fron many different IPs... |
| 20:43.52 | jelly-home | linduxed, jhutchins_lt: be careful zlessing huge files |
| 20:44.17 | jelly-home | hid3: did you have syncookies enable? |
| 20:44.18 | hid3 | jhutchins_lt: yeah, the ports are throttled with iptables+recent. I guess that is the recent match who ran out of memory |
| 20:44.25 | jhutchins_lt | jelly-home: What's it use up, ram? tmp? Disk? |
| 20:44.26 | hid3 | jelly-home: yes, of course |
| 20:44.34 | jelly-home | jhutchins_lt: ram |
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| 20:45.00 | jelly-home | hid3: yeah, the log says so, sorry |
| 20:45.13 | linduxed | jelly-home: jhutchins_lt: i just did a zcat auth* | grep "TheUser" |
| 20:45.21 | linduxed | that didn't give anything either |
| 20:45.26 | jelly-home | linduxed: there's a zgrep, too |
| 20:45.44 | linduxed | well anyway, it's not there it seems |
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| 20:45.52 | hideo | grep -i ? |
| 20:45.57 | jhutchins_lt | linduxed: there's also last |
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| 20:47.13 | jhutchins_lt | linduxed: What service did they log in through? |
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| 20:48.29 | linduxed | jhutchins_lt: "ssh TheUser@ser.ver.ipa.ddr |
| 20:48.34 | linduxed | | |
| 20:48.35 | linduxed | " |
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| 20:48.51 | linduxed | s/|// |
| 20:49.24 | jhutchins_lt | linduxed: 1) They didn't log in. 2) They altered the log. |
| 20:49.43 | valdyn | 3) the log already got rotated |
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| 20:50.18 | linduxed | well i asked the user to try a minute ago |
| 20:50.22 | linduxed | a couple of times |
| 20:50.30 | linduxed | he can ping the server just fine |
| 20:50.31 | jelly-home | zcat auth* would have taken care of 3), valdyn |
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| 20:50.59 | linduxed | ive got the id_rsa.pub into the authorized_keys file |
| 20:51.22 | linduxed | the ~TheUser is set with "chmod -R 700" |
| 20:51.43 | linduxed | the ~TheUser/.ssh/authorized_keys is set to 600 |
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| 20:52.43 | jelly-home | linduxed: is syslog even running? Is auth.log being written to, or not? |
| 20:53.12 | linduxed | and everytime i ask him to do "ssh xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" or "ssh TheUser@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" the user gets "Connection closed by xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" |
| 20:53.33 | linduxed | jelly-home: how would i check that |
| 20:53.44 | linduxed | jelly-home: there are fairly recent entries there |
| 20:54.00 | nvz | /dev/sda1 1 637 5116671 12 Compaq diagnostics dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/restore.img bs=512 count-5116671 is that right for backing up a partition like this? |
| 20:54.05 | linduxed | for instance in auth i see that i created an account for that user |
| 20:54.28 | jelly-home | linduxed: ok, we'll assume it does, then. can you get output of ssv -vvv TheUser@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx |
| 20:54.35 | valdyn | !debug ssh |
| 20:54.35 | dpkg | To debug sshd (server), run this as root on the server: "/usr/sbin/sshd -d -p 2222". Then use "ssh -p 2222 username@servername" on the client. See also <slow ssh connect>. <ssh permissions> |
| 20:55.33 | linduxed | jelly-home: ssv? |
| 20:55.40 | linduxed | jelly-home: you mean ssh right? |
| 20:55.44 | jelly-home | right |
| 20:58.29 | troy- | is it possible to diff the contents of two folders? |
| 20:58.37 | valdyn | troy-: sure |
| 20:58.38 | linduxed | jelly-home: working on a pastebin post... |
| 20:59.04 | troy- | valdyn: i understand how to diff files but not folders :P |
| 20:59.05 | valdyn | !folder |
| 20:59.05 | dpkg | folder is a directory damn it! near My Computer and Network Neighborhood... or the things you put in a filing cabinet. IMAP protocol's mailboxes. |
| 20:59.22 | troy- | s/folder/directory |
| 20:59.54 | capitan | troy-, diff -r dirA dirB |
| 20:59.57 | robbe- | Any other tesseract frontends I {c,sh}ould try apart from ocropus? |
| 21:00.06 | troy- | capitan: much thanks :P |
| 21:01.10 | troy- | hmm i didnt even see that in the manpage :< |
| 21:02.45 | mon8 | i switched kernels from vmlinuz-2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 to vmlinuz-2.6.18-6-686-bigmem, now when i try to run s2disk i get: suspend: Could not stat the snapshot device file,,, any suggestions? |
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| 21:03.20 | valdyn | mon8: what is your snapshot device? |
| 21:03.36 | mon8 | hmm, i dunno... |
| 21:03.44 | valdyn | mon8: what is your swap device? |
| 21:03.53 | mon8 | sec |
| 21:04.09 | valdyn | mon8: and what is the output of "grep swap /etc/fstab" ? |
| 21:04.29 | mon8 | sda4 |
| 21:04.34 | jelly-home | mon8: also, is there something stopping your from upgrading to lenny? |
| 21:05.01 | mon8 | um i just got an intel wireless card running |
| 21:06.28 | valdyn | mon8: so? |
| 21:06.30 | linduxed | jelly-home: http://pastebin.archlinux.fr/380761 |
| 21:06.35 | mon8 | the new kernel seems to support the ipw3495 |
| 21:07.32 | mon8 | i dont ^ipw3945 |
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| 21:08.26 | jelly-home | linduxed: that connection was seemingly closed prematurely by the server. at this point you run a sshd with debug like the bot suggested above |
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| 21:09.23 | jelly-home | linduxed: which OS was this keypair generated with and when? You may be getting remnants of /msg dpkg dsa1571 |
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| 21:09.44 | mon8 | valdyn the swap file is on /dev/sda4 |
| 21:09.47 | linduxed | jelly-home: ubuntu generated ti |
| 21:09.54 | valdyn | mon8: swap *file* ? |
| 21:09.57 | linduxed | jelly-home: connects to a debian box |
| 21:10.07 | mon8 | ^partition |
| 21:10.18 | valdyn | mon8: does /etc/fstab agree? is swap on currently? |
| 21:10.31 | mon8 | yes |
| 21:10.55 | valdyn | mon8: dpkg-reconfigure uswsusp |
| 21:10.59 | jelly-home | linduxed: knowing which ubuntu release and when exactly might help you to figure out if it's a weak key (read that factoid)\ |
| 21:11.02 | mon8 | ok |
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| 21:12.05 | mon8 | ahh,,, kernel does not support it |
| 21:12.21 | linduxed | jelly-home: well this has never happened before, so ill try that sshd thing |
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| 21:14.29 | mon8 | thanks valdyn |
| 21:14.36 | jelly-home | all of this has happened before, all of it will happened again |
| 21:14.39 | jelly-home | hides |
| 21:15.35 | capitan | jelly-home, :D |
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| 21:18.15 | MoMo | ... what would cause my ssh to stop working? i was able to use it last night, just fine but today i try to ssh and it doesn't work |
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| 21:18.33 | valdyn | !doesn't work |
| 21:18.33 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
| 21:18.51 | MoMo | connectino refused is the error i get |
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| 21:19.00 | valdyn | !connection refused |
| 21:19.01 | dpkg | When a TCP connection (e.g. telnet somehost 80) gives the error "connection refused", it means that either the service in question is not running on the specified IP address at all (apache has died), or that a firewall has rejected your SYN packet and sent back a rejection packet to you. It's a VERY CLEAR, EXPLICIT error message and ALWAYS means one of those two things. |
| 21:19.27 | MoMo | how can i check if the service ssh is running |
| 21:19.40 | wols | ps aux |grep sshd (as root) |
| 21:20.17 | MoMo | there are two listings when i run that -- is the one in paticular i look for? |
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| 21:20.44 | linduxed | MoMo: well since you got anything its appartently on |
| 21:21.02 | capitan | MoMo, can you ssh to it locally? |
| 21:21.24 | capitan | (from the same box) |
| 21:21.32 | MoMo | no |
| 21:22.10 | valdyn | MoMo: show us the output of "netstat -plunt | grep sshd" |
| 21:22.54 | MoMo | nothing is outputted |
| 21:23.04 | MoMo | -- would i have something to do with iptables that i put on last night |
| 21:23.10 | valdyn | MoMo: no |
| 21:23.25 | valdyn | MoMo: were not at that point yet |
| 21:23.30 | MoMo | because my machine has two nics |
| 21:23.48 | MoMo | i tried sshing locally to one i'm tring to connect to remotly ... then i just tried the other one ... works fine |
| 21:23.58 | valdyn | MoMo: did you run the netstat thing as root? |
| 21:24.02 | MoMo | yes |
| 21:24.14 | valdyn | MoMo: killall sshd; /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
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| 21:24.49 | valdyn | MoMo: after that try "netstat -plunt | grep sshd" again as root |
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| 21:25.53 | MoMo | got two listings -- i can't copy and paste so i have to hand transcribe this |
| 21:26.25 | valdyn | MoMo: i only want the part that should look like 0.0.0.0:22 |
| 21:26.38 | MoMo | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:22 0.0.0.0 LISTEN 2936/sshd |
| 21:26.51 | valdyn | MoMo: your forgot that :* |
| 21:26.57 | MoMo | thats the next line |
| 21:27.05 | valdyn | MoMo: but this looks ok, now ssh from local, then ssh from your client |
| 21:27.15 | MoMo | wait sorry i did forget |
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| 21:27.55 | MoMo | locally doesn't work, remote, putty still gives connection refused |
| 21:28.10 | valdyn | MoMo: what do you get locally? |
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| 21:28.20 | MoMo | nothing it just hangs |
| 21:28.25 | MoMo | when i do the other nic ip, its instant |
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| 21:28.37 | valdyn | MoMo: now thats your firewall rules |
| 21:28.53 | valdyn | MoMo: youre dropping traffic instead if denieing connection, thats stupid for debugging |
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| 21:30.05 | valdyn | MoMo: REJECT is better |
| 21:30.10 | MoMo | this is my firewall script http://pastebin.com/iKpBJXeR |
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| 21:30.48 | valdyn | MoMo: your lo interfaces is missing? |
| 21:31.13 | valdyn | MoMo: whats the output for "ifconfig lo" |
| 21:31.43 | MoMo | 127.0.0.1/8 |
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| 21:32.32 | valdyn | MoMo: /8 ? where is that in ifconfig? |
| 21:32.57 | wols | valdyn: inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 |
| 21:32.57 | wols | there |
| 21:32.58 | valdyn | MoMo: or are you translating the Mask: |
| 21:33.13 | MoMo | yse i translated |
| 21:33.14 | valdyn | wols: sure, but im surprised hes doing that |
| 21:33.15 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.17 | valdyn | MoMo: ok |
| 21:33.32 | wols | valdyn: unexpected surprises, eh? :) |
| 21:33.39 | MoMo | i'm not a total dolt |
| 21:33.43 | valdyn | hehe |
| 21:34.10 | MoMo | just very new to the linux experience =) |
| 21:34.23 | valdyn | MoMo: old wrong policy on your iptables chains? |
| 21:34.27 | wols | does telnet localhost 22 say something? or hang too? |
| 21:34.35 | valdyn | MoMo: your firewall rules are no blocking localhost |
| 21:35.32 | valdyn | iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT |
| 21:35.41 | valdyn | and i missed that one obviously lo should be ok |
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| 21:37.52 | ubsafder | i installed lenny with kde will I loose kde if i upgrade to squeeze ? |
| 21:38.41 | MoMo | telnet hangs too |
| 21:38.49 | MoMo | i will add that local line to my firewall scirpt |
| 21:39.11 | valdyn | MoMo: add what? |
| 21:39.20 | valdyn | MoMo: i thought you pasted what you were using |
| 21:39.38 | MoMo | i did |
| 21:39.56 | MoMo | which i got from a website |
| 21:40.13 | MoMo | i was able to copy and paste before (had ssh working) |
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| 21:41.33 | valdyn | MoMo: i see youre not allowing remote traffic to your server, but i dont see why lo is not working |
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| 21:42.09 | MoMo | is there a way i can just flush all the rules |
| 21:42.22 | valdyn | MoMo: the script is doing just that |
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| 21:43.05 | MoMo | so i can just do the first part of the script -- and then if it is the firewall .. the issue should go away? |
| 21:43.20 | valdyn | MoMo: the script does not set the policy |
| 21:43.32 | valdyn | MoMo: you must have set policy manually |
| 21:43.59 | MoMo | set what policy? |
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| 21:44.09 | johnfg | hi folks |
| 21:44.16 | valdyn | MoMo: you see when you run iptables --list |
| 21:44.31 | valdyn | MoMo: the policy is what the rules override for specified source /target |
| 21:44.47 | valdyn | MoMo: and this script only adds rules |
| 21:44.58 | johnfg | I just tried this command, sudo apt-get isntall build-essential dkms linux-headers-`uname -r`, but get back that there is no such package. |
| 21:45.13 | johnfg | I'm running lenny 5.04, and I've installed this before. What's up? |
| 21:45.30 | johnfg | I did enter install on the cli, not isntall. |
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| 21:46.30 | valdyn | MoMo: iptables -F; iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT; iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT; iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT |
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| 21:48.06 | MoMo | valdyn i actually just did that, and its working good now -- i'll figure this deal out later =) i've got bigger fish to fry today, like the NFS issue |
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| 21:54.43 | valdyn | !tc |
| 21:54.43 | dpkg | i guess tc is the Debian Test Cycle Trafic Control, a program for defining QoS rules in 2.4 (backported?), or in iproute package. Alternatively Top Cat, or Turbo C |
| 21:54.48 | linduxed | jelly-home: ok ive done the sshd -d -p 2222 |
| 21:55.01 | linduxed | jelly-home: then i asked the guy to log in |
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| 21:55.19 | linduxed | jelly-home: he did "ssh someuser@myserver -p 2222" |
| 21:55.27 | linduxed | jelly-home: this happened at the server |
| 21:55.28 | linduxed | http://linduxed.pastebin.com/Rmvbj8np |
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| 21:56.42 | linduxed | i cant figure out why this just doesnt want to work |
| 21:57.40 | linduxed | the remote user doesn't get more than the previous "Connectio closed by ..." |
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| 22:01.51 | chachan | Hi, anyone know witch KDE application allow me to use the fingerprint on Lenovo ThinkPad? . Thanks |
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| 22:03.44 | cahoot | http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Integrated_Fingerprint_Reader |
| 22:03.48 | MoMo | heres a good one -- when i installed debian -- it installed the KDE gui, this will be used as a server and i have no need for the gui -- how do i reclaim my wasted resources and keep it from starting up at boot time? |
| 22:04.01 | valdyn | !remove kde |
| 22:04.01 | dpkg | To remove or purge KDE: aptitude remove kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data. Use 'purge' instead of 'remove' if that's what you want (ask me about <purge>). |
| 22:04.25 | valdyn | !remove xorg |
| 22:04.29 | valdyn | !remove x |
| 22:04.29 | dpkg | remove x is probably "aptitude remove x11-common" will remove X. Use "purge" instead of remove if you want it to also remove X's configuration. |
| 22:04.29 | MoMo | valdyn: well -- i could REMOVE it totally yes, but does it hurt to have it installed ,but prevent it from auto starting at boot?. |
| 22:04.39 | valdyn | !nodm |
| 22:04.39 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm slim". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console. |
| 22:04.44 | valdyn | MoMo: you can use that ^^ |
| 22:05.29 | MoMo | sorry valdyn, i'm not following what is happening |
| 22:05.45 | valdyn | MoMo: dpkg told you how to make kde not start automagically |
| 22:06.07 | valdyn | MoMo: i.e. do what there is after NEWSFLASH |
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| 22:06.19 | valdyn | MoMo: and remember to get it back with "dpkg-reconfigure kdm" if you want that |
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| 22:07.33 | MoMo | thanks |
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| 22:08.37 | MoMo | hmmm i seem to not have the x11 directory in etc |
| 22:08.47 | valdyn | MoMo: captial X |
| 22:08.51 | MoMo | duh =P |
| 22:09.23 | wad | I've installed debian on a box with this device in it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124008 |
| 22:09.31 | wad | But I don't know where to see the drive attached to it. |
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| 22:10.00 | chachan | cahoot: thanks |
| 22:10.42 | wad | cat /proc/partitions shows the drives hda, sda, sdb, sdc, sdd. But there is another drive plugged into that card, that I don't see. Any idea where I would find it? |
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| 22:10.58 | MoMo | now this nfs drive is killing me -- i've got a debian machine with a diskless node attached to it acorss the network -- i am doing apt-get install ethtool on the diskless node, and get an error: can not write log, openpty() failed (/dev/pts not mounted?) |
| 22:11.12 | MoMo | so i'm thinking /dev/pts is simply not mounted -- but i'm stumped as how to mount it |
| 22:11.18 | valdyn | MoMo: mount it |
| 22:11.23 | anoobisa | looking for a package to stream mp3 to icecast server? Ices only does ogg right? |
| 22:11.37 | valdyn | MoMo: mount /dev/pts |
| 22:11.44 | MoMo | thats it? |
| 22:11.50 | valdyn | MoMo: yes |
| 22:12.10 | MoMo | i just tried =( got a wrong fs type error |
| 22:12.21 | valdyn | MoMo: mount -t devpts devpts /dev/pts |
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| 22:12.59 | MoMo | mount point /dev/pts does not exist |
| 22:13.09 | wad | MoMo: You need to create a mount point. |
| 22:13.13 | MoMo | in fstab? |
| 22:13.14 | wad | mkdir /mnt/whatever |
| 22:13.18 | valdyn | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 21. Mär 00:47 /dev/pts |
| 22:13.28 | MoMo | oh |
| 22:13.31 | valdyn | MoMo: why does it not exist? |
| 22:13.33 | wad | The mount command will attach the device to that directory you create. |
| 22:13.38 | valdyn | MoMo: this thing isnt debian.. what is it? |
| 22:13.43 | MoMo | its debian |
| 22:14.01 | valdyn | MoMo: well, debian mandates udev last i checked and udev creates /dev/pts |
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| 22:14.30 | wad | valdyn, I though he said that the error was that the mount point didn't exist... |
| 22:14.38 | MoMo | but -- its a diskless node -- i made the file structure using debootstrap --arch i386 lenny /home/nfsroot |
| 22:14.49 | MoMo | wad: this is true |
| 22:15.00 | valdyn | MoMo: youre probably missing "important" packages |
| 22:15.06 | MoMo | =( |
| 22:15.10 | valdyn | MoMo: no big deal |
| 22:15.28 | wad | Hmm, I've never tried a diskless node before. Sorry. |
| 22:15.30 | valdyn | MoMo: debootstrap does not create the usual complete base install, you can live with that |
| 22:15.36 | sepult | why are the debian netinst iso image not store the shadow passwords ? |
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| 22:15.50 | sepult | and everyone gets into thinking it's a keyboard issue |
| 22:15.54 | MoMo | valdyn: thats what i thought, and then anything else i would just apt-get ... which is proving difficult |
| 22:16.17 | valdyn | MoMo: cant you apt-get install udev? |
| 22:16.42 | valdyn | MoMo: or is it installed but never started? |
| 22:16.44 | MoMo | i can try real quick but everytime it gets to the download done and then install part it errors out with that devpts issue |
| 22:16.57 | valdyn | MoMo: ok, for your devpts first |
| 22:16.57 | anoobisa | where can I find the lame packages for lenny |
| 22:17.11 | valdyn | MoMo: either by creating the directory and mounting it or by /etc/init.d/udev start |
| 22:17.22 | adb | anoobisa, in dmm |
| 22:17.25 | valdyn | s/for/fix/ |
| 22:17.35 | anoobisa | adb dmm? |
| 22:17.36 | adb | !tell anoobisa -about dmm |
| 22:17.41 | MoMo | how can i still if udev is installed first (i just tried to apt-get it, and it started downloading) |
| 22:18.02 | MoMo | s/still/tell |
| 22:18.15 | anoobisa | adb do you have the apt urls somewhere |
| 22:18.39 | adb | !dmm |
| 22:18.39 | dpkg | somebody said dmm was Debian Multimedia, a repository of unofficial Debian packages, not in Debian for patent-related reasons, maintained by Christian Marillat. For information on how to use this repository, see http://debian-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm lenny> <dmm squeeze>. |
| 22:18.40 | anoobisa | adb srry think I found them on the site :-) |
| 22:18.49 | anoobisa | adb thanks |
| 22:18.53 | adb | yw |
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| 22:21.03 | MoMo | so i'm going to try and create /mnt/tmpdevpts and then mount that |
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| 22:23.36 | MoMo | hmm, this insn't working -- i'm trying mount /dev/pts /mnt/tmpdevpts |
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| 22:25.05 | seth1244 | Is there an option to aptitude to install dependencies, but not the package? |
| 22:25.09 | RichiH | aaaaand we are done |
| 22:25.32 | krisfremen | wth was that??? |
| 22:25.37 | streuner | RichiH: an american is prolly better for europs to clean bans |
| 22:25.52 | streuner | krisfremen: well, clean banlists? |
| 22:26.11 | fi9o | Hello. |
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| 22:27.25 | streuner | krisfremen: it happens not often, but sometimes it must be... |
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| 22:28.03 | streuner | seth1244: /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 22:28.36 | streuner | seth1244: build-dep or such should do what you want |
| 22:29.45 | MoMo | is there another way to install this udev thing -- its kicking my ass |
| 22:30.05 | MoMo | i can't apt-get ... because i get an error that /dev/pts isn't mounted ... and i'm not 100% that i'm mounting it correctly |
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| 22:32.49 | seth1244 | streuner: build-dep installs dependencies for compiling a source. I only want dependencies for the package. |
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| 22:34.50 | wad | lspci shows my PCI SATA controller, but I'm not sure where to find the drive that's attached to it. It doesn't show up in /proc/partitions or with fdisk. Looked through /dev, but I'm not sure what I'm looking for. Any ideas? |
| 22:35.25 | streuner | seth1244: apt-cache show <package> | grep -i depends ? |
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| 22:40.53 | Kunsi | hello |
| 22:40.55 | Kunsi | how can i find out which program is eating up my internet connection? |
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| 22:41.51 | sepult | i eat your internet connection |
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| 22:42.00 | sepult | i'm chewing your cables |
| 22:42.01 | sepult | lol |
| 22:42.32 | MoMo | lol |
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| 22:42.49 | MoMo | nom nom nom |
| 22:43.21 | Kunsi | sepult: i dont think so |
| 22:43.45 | MoMo | i just know about broad network analyzer -- not sure something that can break it out |
| 22:44.52 | rahsputin | hi. how can i get <TAB> to fill-in or show what options i have after entering a certain character |
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| 22:47.11 | rahsputin | is it an option to be set in xorg.conf ? |
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| 22:48.04 | rahsputin | no, i dont think so.... since it doesnt work for me when X is not running |
| 22:48.07 | Acony | grr am I able to run pulseaudio on debian testing ? |
| 22:48.22 | Acony | my sound with alsa is driving me crazy |
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| 22:49.00 | chombee | Hey, I'm getting locale-related errors from many programs (e.g. from perl: "setting locale failed") can anyone help me debug this? |
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| 22:49.32 | icebrain | Acony: what's the problem with alsa? |
| 22:49.45 | sepult | maybe you just have not set your locale in your env |
| 22:49.53 | sepult | or it is ignored for some reason |
| 22:50.06 | sepult | Acony: use arts |
| 22:50.09 | chombee | sepult, how can I check for this? What is the environment variable(s) exactly? |
| 22:50.16 | Acony | icebrain, I cant use more then one program witch is using soundcard |
| 22:50.24 | Acony | sepult, what is arts ? |
| 22:50.27 | sepult | chombee: LC_* |
| 22:50.27 | inteliwasp | if i were to install sarge, will it stay updated with apt? |
| 22:50.56 | icebrain | Acony: you just need dmix. Pulse is overkill. Wait, I'll pastebin my alsa.conf |
| 22:51.08 | sepult | chombee: LC_ALL, LC_CURRENCY, LC_whatever, have a look at the locales manpage |
| 22:51.10 | jelly-home | inteliwasp: sarge is two releases behind, there is no more support |
| 22:51.43 | chombee | sepult: ironically 'man locales' fails with "man: can't set the locale" |
| 22:51.44 | sepult | Acony: arts is the soundserver of kde, you'll need esd too i think for gnome |
| 22:51.46 | inteliwasp | er... i ment the curent testing version... (i would get the names mixed up...) |
| 22:51.58 | Acony | icebrain, ok will wait, but I am loosing sound, for example when I am listening radio, and then I open tube or something, I cant hear anything :D |
| 22:52.14 | sepult | Acony: if configured properly it uses all of oss,alsa etc... |
| 22:52.17 | Acony | and then for example I kill firefox-bin, and restart alsa sometimes and it works fine |
| 22:52.51 | Arrowmaster | Acony: make an .asoundrc to use dmixer |
| 22:53.02 | icebrain | Acony: try pasting http://debian.pastebin.com/LVxubc8q in .asoundrc |
| 22:53.05 | icebrain | works for me |
| 22:53.05 | Acony | sepult, thanks for usefull info, will wait for icebrain conf, and if I don't get the desired results, will go with your solution |
| 22:53.17 | jelly-home | inteliwasp: that'd be squeeze. At this point in time, you'd get updates, but there's 0 guarantee of timely security updates or no breakage. In fact, breakage is all but guaranteed. |
| 22:53.30 | sepult | Acony: the problem is that your sond driver will occupy the sound device with alsa |
| 22:53.51 | Arrowmaster | alsa is supposed to use dmix automatically if it detects the hardware cant do mixing but i think it might not work right with some hardware |
| 22:53.59 | jelly-home | sepult: are you seriously suggesting arts and esd when everything is moving away from those? |
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| 22:54.05 | icebrain | Arrowmaster: yep, didn't work for me |
| 22:54.07 | chombee | Ah, sepult you meant 'man locale' |
| 22:54.19 | sepult | chombee: sorry yes |
| 22:54.27 | chombee | So I need to set all these LC_* environment variables to some values? |
| 22:54.45 | Acony | hm... icebrain is this the whole alsa.conf since mine is much bigger right now :D |
| 22:54.46 | Acony | ? |
| 22:54.52 | sepult | chombee: normally they should be set automatically when you dpkg-reconfigure locales and sset the options right |
| 22:55.05 | jelly-home | chombee: unset them. use dpgk-reconfigure locales to install those locales you need. |
| 22:55.20 | chombee | sepult So they should be set in a system-wide file not in my home dir? Let me try dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 22:55.28 | jelly-home | !tell chombee about locales |
| 22:55.29 | icebrain | Acony: yes. But backup your's first! |
| 22:55.47 | sepult | chombee: you c an have private locales too |
| 22:56.00 | sepult | chombee: but you won't need them mostly |
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| 22:56.11 | chombee | sepult Ok, I think I just need to get the system-wide ones set. I dunno how they ever got unset in the first place |
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| 22:57.49 | Acony | Arrowmaster, how to makes .asoundrc to use dmixer :D |
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| 22:58.07 | MoMo | i'm having trouble with mount /dev/pts ... i would like to do it in fstab .. but what i'm doing, i get a failed cannot mount when i restart: my fstab is here http://pastebin.com/C0ik0UxM |
| 22:58.08 | Acony | icebrain, thanks but not working at me :( |
| 22:58.16 | Arrowmaster | icebrain: my .asoundrc is similar to yours except the ctl.!default points to the hardware and the asym capture.pcm points to dsnoop, although i didnt really know that well what i was doing when i made it |
| 22:58.44 | icebrain | Arrowmaster: I don't know about cap either, I don't use it |
| 22:59.22 | Arrowmaster | Acony: maybe hw:0 isnt your card? |
| 22:59.52 | Arrowmaster | oh and you have to restart the programs after changing .asoundrc |
| 23:00.02 | Acony | probbably... take a look at my alsa.conf please |
| 23:00.02 | Acony | http://debian.pastebin.com/wDV9qpN8 |
| 23:00.21 | chombee | jelly-home: Should the bot have messaged me? It doesn't appear to have |
| 23:00.21 | Acony | Arrowmaster, I restarted them by the way... |
| 23:01.23 | MoMo | is there a way to add packages to a bootstrap? |
| 23:02.29 | jelly-home | chombee: hm, perhaps you're not identified to the services or you're ignoring it |
| 23:02.45 | jelly-home | chombee: not much new said, though |
| 23:02.47 | jelly-home | !locales |
| 23:02.47 | dpkg | Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates locale definitions and also edits /etc/default/locale which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. Use "LANG=C command" to change the output language for a one off command; ask me about <localised errors>. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale |
| 23:03.41 | chombee | Hm, okay I ran dpkg-reconfigure locales but it still doesn't work |
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| 23:03.56 | Acony | icebrain where is asound.rc located by default since locate did not find it on my machine ? |
| 23:04.54 | Acony | am I able to use pulse audio on debian testing |
| 23:04.57 | icebrain | Acony: I use /etc/asound.conf |
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| 23:04.59 | chombee | Oh wait, I think it just need to restart screen which means I need to leave |
| 23:05.33 | wad | I just posted a reply to this thread, I'm hoping someone will take a look at it and perhaps reply with a hint for me. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-kernel-70/how-to-access-sata-drives-attached-to-sii3124-719408/?posted=1#post3906946 |
| 23:05.38 | icebrain | Acony: you can probably use pulse in testing, but I can't help you with that |
| 23:05.44 | icebrain | judd: versions pulseaudio |
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| 23:05.46 | judd | pulseaudio -- etch: 0.9.5-5etch1; etch-security: 0.9.5-5etch1; lenny: 0.9.10-3+lenny1; lenny-security: 0.9.10-3+lenny2; lenny-backports: 0.9.15-4.1~bpo50+1; sid: 0.9.21-1; squeeze: 0.9.21-1 |
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| 23:06.56 | Acony | ok icebrain tnx |
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| 23:07.57 | Arrowmaster | wad: see if you can get into a bios for the controller card during boot, if you can check if there is an option to export drives that do not belong to an array |
| 23:09.25 | wad | Arrowmaster, yes, I can. I couldn't find any options like you said, and I looked. |
| 23:09.40 | wad | Arrowmaster, the options there are for building a RAID with the firmware on the card. |
| 23:10.17 | wad | Which, of course, I'm not interested in. |
| 23:11.19 | MoMo | how can i run a command and export all of its verbose into a text file? |
| 23:11.51 | themill | MoMo: mycommand > textfile.txt |
| 23:11.56 | wad | MoMo, ls > file.txt 2> file.txt |
| 23:12.13 | wad | themill, I think you need to 2> as well, to handle stderr output. Not sure. |
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| 23:12.59 | Mad_Dud | Hi guys. Is there any specification described for naming debian packages? |
| 23:13.01 | themill | wad: depends if you want stderr in the text file or not. You often don't, but should use "&> file" instead |
| 23:13.16 | Mad_Dud | i mean something like <name>.<version>.deb |
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| 23:13.18 | Mad_Dud | ? |
| 23:13.38 | Mad_Dud | is there official standard for this? |
| 23:13.49 | wad | themill, ah, so &> sends both stdout and stderr into the file? COOL! |
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| 23:14.23 | MoMo | themill: that worked for the beginning of the output ... but when it errored it echoed that on the screen not the file |
| 23:14.29 | wad | Mad_Dud, look here: http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html |
| 23:14.53 | Mad_Dud | fantastic! |
| 23:14.55 | themill | MoMo: so I was talking to wad about then. mycommand &> textfile.txt |
| 23:14.59 | Mad_Dud | wad++ |
| 23:15.46 | katano | hello, i have cron-apt running and i have set MAILON="upgrade" but i still get mails when no pkgs are downloaded like 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded., any ideea why ? |
| 23:16.32 | MoMo | cool |
| 23:17.01 | Mad_Dud | thank you, wad, once again! respect! |
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| 23:17.05 | MoMo | okay -- i am trying to install through apt-get on a diskless node using NFS ... when i run apt-get install ethtool i get this error at the end http://pastebin.com/1fSrwUYV |
| 23:17.15 | wad | heh |
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| 23:17.59 | jelly-home | MoMo: that's not the whole output, is it? |
| 23:18.11 | wad | Debian is nothing is not well-documented. |
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| 23:18.45 | MoMo | jelly-home .. no its not but as i do apt-get install ethtool &> file.txt it just gives me one more line |
| 23:18.56 | Arrowmaster | wad: looks like you have to use the concatenation feature in that card bios to use only a single drive in an array, but it says it will wipe the data, seems there might be a bios for that card that lacks the raid features and would let them all show up as standard drives |
| 23:19.21 | jelly-home | MoMo: use script file.txt to capture the whole output of an interactive command |
| 23:19.39 | MoMo | jelly-home i'm not sure what you mean |
| 23:19.47 | Arrowmaster | script is a command |
| 23:20.01 | jelly-home | MoMo: it opens a new shell and logs all the output. exit the shell when you're finished with apt. |
| 23:20.12 | Arrowmaster | it logs everything shown from when you start it until you type exit |
| 23:20.55 | MoMo | i tried script /file2.txt and i got openpty failed terminated |
| 23:23.05 | wad | Arrowmaster, ouch. I can't wipe the drive. It's got 1/5 of my RAID on it! Actually, I guess I could reconstruct my RAID with just the four disks (it's RAID-4), then create that firmware RAID with the last disk, then add it to the md. |
| 23:23.14 | wad | What a pain... |
| 23:23.32 | wad | s/RAID-4/RAID-a/ #duh |
| 23:23.38 | wad | s/RAID-4/RAID-5/ #duh |
| 23:23.39 | Arrowmaster | look into flashing the firmware on the card |
| 23:23.51 | wad | Okay, I'll do that. |
| 23:24.02 | wad | Gonna unplug my drive from it first. :) |
| 23:24.22 | jelly-home | MoMo: oh right. grep dev/pts /proc/mounts ? |
| 23:24.37 | MoMo | =) lol no worries -- one sec |
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| 23:25.52 | MoMo | here is what i got (two lines) /dev/pts /mnt/tmpdevpts tmpfs rw 0 0 /dev/pts /mnt/tmpdevpts tmpfs rw 0 0 |
| 23:26.35 | MoMo | (this is the last line of my fstab) /dev/pts /mnt/tmpdevpts tmpfs defaults 0 0 |
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| 23:27.14 | Arrowmaster | you are using debian right? |
| 23:27.21 | MoMo | me? yes |
| 23:27.42 | MoMo | but i'm also using a diskless node -- that i built with debootstrap --arch i386 lenny |
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| 23:27.52 | Arrowmaster | oh you said earlier that you added it to fstab |
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| 23:28.30 | MoMo | yes i was told to mount it so i just fstabb-ed it |
| 23:28.56 | jelly-home | MoMo: /dev/pts isn't supposed to be a mere tmpfs. |
| 23:29.14 | MoMo | =( sorry -- i was following the convention |
| 23:29.37 | Arrowmaster | so you ran debootstrap on the diskless node or did you run it from another system onto the storage medium then move that storage medium to the other hardware? |
| 23:29.46 | MoMo | the latter |
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| 23:29.59 | MoMo | sorry i wasn't clear -- i have a headnode that runs the disk ... all the other nodes boot off it |
| 23:30.13 | MoMo | so if it isn't to be tmpfs? regular nfs? |
| 23:31.03 | Arrowmaster | ok the way the installer works is that it runs debootstrap then it sets up a chroot and runs aptitude install inside that chroot to add any additional packages |
| 23:31.22 | MoMo | ok |
| 23:31.37 | jelly-home | MoMo: umount it and run /etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh instead, or manually: mount -t devpts devpts /dev/pts -o nosuid,noexec,gid=5,mode=620 |
| 23:32.15 | MoMo | can you explain this situation to me a little |
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| 23:33.10 | Arrowmaster | MoMo: /proc and the actual physical drives are the only things in my fstab, the rest seem to be handled automatically |
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| 23:33.51 | jelly-home | MoMo: it has its own filesystem type. |
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| 23:34.33 | jelly-home | MoMo: the init script _should have_ mounted it after /dev got mounted, I've no idea why it did not |
| 23:34.33 | MoMo | i did the ./etc/init.d/mountdevsubfs.sh start |
| 23:34.42 | MoMo | no dice on that |
| 23:34.46 | MoMo | should i try the manual way? |
| 23:34.54 | jelly-home | yes |
| 23:35.32 | Arrowmaster | did you give us an output of `mount` |
| 23:35.36 | jelly-home | MoMo: that's only to get script working (and get rid of that openpty() warning, which is not related to the actual problem) |
| 23:35.53 | MoMo | mount: mount point /dev/pts does not exist |
| 23:35.54 | Arrowmaster | you might be missing more than just /dev/pts and thats why the script didnt work |
| 23:36.10 | jelly-home | MoMo: create it! |
| 23:36.25 | MoMo | i thought thats what i was doing in fstab that i was doing wrong |
| 23:36.48 | jelly-home | MoMo: typically directories are created with "mkdir" |
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| 23:37.10 | MoMo | right .. i made /mnt/tmpdevpts |
| 23:37.25 | jelly-home | that's not /dev/pts, though |
| 23:37.26 | MoMo | i for some reason feel this is wrong now though |
| 23:37.43 | MoMo | ahhhh i had a feeling --- i didn't know ifi was allowed to create that |
| 23:38.05 | jelly-home | applications won't know how to access it if it's in the wrong place |
| 23:38.49 | MoMo | wow |
| 23:39.14 | MoMo | i did that and then had to create var/log/apt .. but it works now |
| 23:39.26 | MoMo | so -- technically it should run automaticall now at boot? |
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| 23:39.32 | MoMo | or did i need something in fstab? |
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| 23:40.02 | Arrowmaster | the only 'special' entry in fstab should be for /proc |
| 23:40.17 | jelly-home | MoMo: your system seems to be missing quite a lot of important paths. There could be mor. |
| 23:40.36 | jelly-home | MoMo: is your /dev static or udev managed? |
| 23:40.45 | MoMo | udev to my knoweldge isn't installed |
| 23:40.57 | MoMo | is there a better way to make this debootstrap deal? |
| 23:41.14 | jelly-home | MoMo: pastebin the whole /proc/mounts |
| 23:41.33 | MoMo | one sec -- i'll install ssh now it will be a tad easier |
| 23:41.43 | MoMo | i REALLY apprciate your help on this jelly-home |
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| 23:42.32 | jelly-home | MoMo: was this system ever booted or are you just messing in the chroot for the time being? |
| 23:42.43 | MoMo | it booted |
| 23:42.56 | MoMo | i have currently the headnode live and only 1 node |
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| 23:43.41 | bif_5050 | why is it recommended by almost every debian related page I see to use ssh key based authentication without a passphrase? |
| 23:43.52 | bif_5050 | the debian wiki even recommends this |
| 23:44.21 | jelly-home | MoMo: if you really don't have udev, might be a good idea to do "/sbin/MAKEDEV generic", populate /dev in case there's more stuff missing |
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| 23:44.39 | jelly-home | bif_5050: context? |
| 23:44.45 | bif_5050 | home use |
| 23:44.48 | jhutchins_lt | bif_5050: How many characters in your passphrase? |
| 23:44.52 | MoMo | can't i apt-get install udev now though? |
| 23:45.00 | bif_5050 | my passphrase is very long |
| 23:45.06 | jelly-home | MoMo: why would you? |
| 23:45.09 | bif_5050 | but that's beside the point |
| 23:45.15 | jhutchins_lt | bif_5050: How many are significant? |
| 23:45.16 | MoMo | because it seems importnat? |
| 23:45.23 | bif_5050 | recommending a blank passphrase is silly |
| 23:45.34 | bif_5050 | jhutchins_lt: define significant |
| 23:45.39 | jelly-home | MoMo: it will also mess with the boot process and possibly make the system unbootable |
| 23:45.42 | Arrowmaster | bif_5050: because by default there is no protection against ssh bruteforcing, and if you run ssh on port 22 on a home connection there WILL be attempts to bruteforce your password |
| 23:46.20 | bif_5050 | yes but why not define even a simple passphrase |
| 23:46.27 | bif_5050 | or go the extra step and use ssh-agent? |
| 23:46.28 | jhutchins_lt | bif_5050: If you mean key only vs ke + passphrase, the latter is more secure but usually not necessary unless the system you're coming from is subject to compromise (ie bad people have acecss to it already). |
| 23:46.41 | jelly-home | bif_5050: where's the page recommending a blank passphrase? |
| 23:46.50 | bif_5050 | it's on the wiki jelly-home |
| 23:46.58 | jelly-home | bif_5050: url, please |
| 23:47.00 | Arrowmaster | because if the passphrase exists then it means the system can be bruteforced skiping the ssh key based authentication entirely |
| 23:47.11 | jhutchins_lt | bif_5050: There are many wikis. |
| 23:47.12 | bif_5050 | http://wiki.debian.org/ssh |
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| 23:47.23 | bif_5050 | sorry, was getting it |
| 23:47.32 | jhutchins_lt | Arrowmaster: I think he's talking about a key with a passphrase, not a password. |
| 23:47.42 | bif_5050 | anything connected to the internet is subject to compromise |
| 23:47.49 | bif_5050 | you can't account for user error |
| 23:47.53 | bif_5050 | everyone makes mistakes |
| 23:48.34 | jelly-home | bif_5050: blimey, I can't even see a mention of "passphrase" or "pass phrase" there :-| |
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| 23:48.53 | jelly-home | bif_5050: they might just be explaining the simplest setup |
| 23:49.21 | bif_5050 | well they use dsa keys too.. so probably |
| 23:49.38 | MoMo | jelly-home the makedev generic command is done |
| 23:49.39 | Arrowmaster | yeah and that seems a little old, i thought RSA was the recommended encryption since the patents expired |
| 23:49.49 | jelly-home | bif_5050: it's a wiki page! it needs updating! You know what to do. |
| 23:50.04 | bif_5050 | heh, I don't have an account yet |
| 23:50.09 | bif_5050 | but maybe when I get a little time |
| 23:50.18 | bif_5050 | I'm still trying to perfect my ssh-agent setup :P |
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| 23:50.41 | bif_5050 | this is my first run at debian (since jan 2010) |
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| 23:50.50 | bif_5050 | so I may also be missing something |
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| 23:52.05 | Arrowmaster | ssh-agent stuff is all done automatically for me by seahorse i think |
| 23:52.12 | jelly-home | bif_5050: I'd say you're doing well, passphraseless private keys aren't exactly the best approach |
| 23:53.08 | Arrowmaster | i know my private keys had passphrases before i moved them to this system but i havent had to enter a passphrase in half a year |
| 23:54.03 | bif_5050 | Arrowmaster: seahorse eh? I was going to try keychain |
| 23:54.06 | innociv | Is there a seperate debian for use on a server where you only access it through SSH? |
| 23:54.09 | bif_5050 | but I'll have a look at that now |
| 23:54.19 | Arrowmaster | bif_5050: its installed automatically as part of gnome |
| 23:54.21 | bif_5050 | innociv: just install base |
| 23:54.32 | Vmanz | Debian is setup for server out of the box |
| 23:54.33 | bif_5050 | Arrowmaster: ah, well.. I run dwm :P |
| 23:55.00 | Arrowmaster | bif_5050: it was the default, im not exactly happy with it but ive been too lazy to try to change |
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| 23:57.44 | bif_5050 | it just depends on what you use your system for I guess |
