| 00:00.50 | themill | bobo_b: precisely what are you doing? perhaps put the command and full output into a pastebin. /msg dpkg paste |
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| 00:04.17 | bobo_b_ | themill: i have a newly installed vserver here and wanted to see if there were any installed packages i won't need. and i didn't know why gcc-4.2-base and gcc-4.3-base were installed, so aptitude told me gcc (which isn't installed) wanted them. 4.2 could be removed, but pretty much everything depends on 4.3 |
| 00:04.35 | bobo_b_ | so i guess it can stay, since i like base-files and bash hehe |
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| 00:14.08 | adimit | Hmmm... I'm trying to put a recent git on my lenny system via lenny-backports, but it needs libc6 and libcurl3-gnutls, which are both *not* available trough the backports... How do I fix this most easily? |
| 00:14.35 | adimit | (and please don't tell me "upgrade to testing." I'd prefer to stay on stable, but I do need a recent version of git for various reasons.) |
| 00:14.35 | Titan8990 | judd: versions git |
| 00:14.36 | judd | git -- etch: 4.3.20-10; lenny: 4.9.4-1 |
| 00:15.14 | adimit | Titan8990: note that these are versions of the internal debian metapackage, *not* actual git versions. For those you'd want git-core |
| 00:15.22 | babilen | ,versions git-core |
| 00:15.22 | adimit | judd: versions git-core |
| 00:15.23 | judd | git-core -- etch: 1:1.4.4.4-4+etch1; etch-security: 1:1.4.4.4-4+etch4; lenny: 1:1.5.6.5-3+lenny1; etch-backports: 1:1.5.6.5-3+lenny2~bpo40+1; lenny-security: 1:1.5.6.5-3+lenny3; lenny-backports: 1:1.6.5-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 1:1.7.0-1; sid: 1:1.7.0.3-1 |
| 00:15.30 | SuperMiguel | is the intel GMA X4500 supported in debian lenny? |
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| 00:17.00 | themill | ,info git |
| 00:17.02 | judd | git (utils, optional): transitional dummy package which can be safely removed. Version: 4.9.4-1; Size: 11.9k; Installed: 60k |
| 00:17.03 | Titan8990 | judd: depends git-core --release lenny-backports |
| 00:17.04 | judd | git-core -- depends: libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libcurl3-gnutls (>= 7.16.2-1), libexpat1 (>= 1.95.8), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.0), perl-modules, liberror-perl, libdigest-sha1-perl. |
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| 00:17.11 | themill | (it's actually a completely different thing again in etch) |
| 00:17.17 | Titan8990 | judd: versions libc6 |
| 00:17.19 | judd | libc6 -- etch: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch9+b1; etch-security: 2.3.6.ds1-13etch10+b1; lenny: 2.7-18lenny1; lenny-security: 2.7-18lenny2; sid: 2.10.2-6; squeeze: 2.10.2-6; experimental: 2.11-0exp4 |
| 00:17.27 | adimit | lenny-backports: 1:1.6.5-1~bpo50+1 would be the version I'd be content with, however its dependencies don't appear to be satisfied within lenny's backports. |
| 00:17.35 | Titan8990 | adimit: looks like the versions of libc6 match up. pastebin your output |
| 00:17.37 | themill | should be |
| 00:17.50 | adimit | Titan8990: I shall. One moment |
| 00:18.15 | xyan | SuperMiguel: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjUzMw |
| 00:18.49 | adimit | Titan8990: http://pastebin.org/121453 |
| 00:18.54 | xyan | i suppose even lenny has a recent enought xserver-xorg-video-intel + intels drm libs |
| 00:19.15 | Lateralus | how do you fix problems in building a package where you get dpkg-source: cannot represent change to blablabla.qm: binary file contents changed? |
| 00:19.28 | Lateralus | I'm assuming there needs to be something extra in the clean target? |
| 00:19.30 | babilen | adimit: etch? |
| 00:19.51 | Titan8990 | adimit: you can't use lenny-backports with an etch system, it has its own backports |
| 00:19.52 | adimit | babilen: ... wow. Didn't notice, but this *should* be lenny. |
| 00:19.58 | babilen | adimit: Could you paste the output of "apt-cache policy" |
| 00:20.33 | adimit | babilen, you're right, this is actually an etch system. Hmmm... dunno what Xen did there, I was specifically telling it to use lenny. |
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| 00:20.53 | adimit | thanks for the input though, seems the error is on my side. |
| 00:20.59 | babilen | adimit: Well, upgrade/install lenny then |
| 00:21.21 | adimit | babilen: more likely I'm just gonna log to dom0 and scrap that host & reinstall. |
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| 00:21.26 | adimit | less of a hassle :-) |
| 00:21.29 | babilen | hehe |
| 00:21.57 | adimit | note to self: actually read the version numbers in apt's error messages next time. |
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| 00:23.41 | l0rd_hex | is there a specific debian wireless channel? |
| 00:23.55 | babilen | no |
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| 00:25.49 | l0rd_hex | Alright, here goes, I'm running lenny on an i386, I have a broadcom BCM4306 minipci card, I downloaded the b43-fwcutter tool and b43 firmware as per wireless.kernel.org. I can get my interface to go up but I can't scan anything |
| 00:25.53 | l0rd_hex | any ideas? |
| 00:26.11 | l0rd_hex | can't scan anything = iwlist wlan0 scan -> nothing |
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| 00:27.17 | Titan8990 | !b43 |
| 00:27.17 | dpkg | [b43] the driver for modern Broadcom 802.11b/g PCI/PCI-E wireless chipsets, included in Linux since 2.6.24. Firmware is required, ask me about <b43-fwcutter> to provide. 802.11b-only devices and BCM4306 rev 2 are instead supported by the <b43legacy> driver. BCM4321/4322 (802.11n) and BCM4313 are not supported, ask about <wl>. http://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx #bcm-users on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 00:28.00 | l0rd_hex | any idea how to check which rev I have? |
| 00:28.15 | Titan8990 | l0rd_hex: lspci -nn |
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| 00:28.33 | Titan8990 | l0rd_hex: post the pciid |
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| 00:28.52 | l0rd_hex | says rev 03 |
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| 00:29.30 | l0rd_hex | Titan8990: 14e4:4320 |
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| 00:29.39 | Titan8990 | l0rd_hex: that is compat-wireless you were looking at. doubtful that it supported here. check out the wiki for your card |
| 00:29.47 | Titan8990 | judd: pciid 14e4:4320 |
| 00:29.48 | judd | [14e4:4320] is 'BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with kernel module 'ssb' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=14e4:4320 |
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| 00:30.43 | l0rd_hex | compat-wireless? that's the b43 driver? |
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| 00:31.44 | Titan8990 | l0rd_hex: thats what they call the package they provide for bleeding-edge drivers |
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| 00:31.55 | l0rd_hex | damn netsplit |
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| 00:32.04 | l0rd_hex | Titan8990: alright, thanks |
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| 00:32.12 | adimit | What amount of disk space would you recommend for a minimal lenny install that's only supposed to serve as a kerberos kdc? |
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| 00:32.31 | l0rd_hex | adimit: personally I'd use OpenBSD as a kdc |
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| 00:32.49 | adimit | l0rd_hex: I'm not being payed enough for that. |
| 00:32.49 | l0rd_hex | adimit: I know that'snot much help |
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| 00:32.54 | Titan8990 | yes... because your obviously not a debian user |
| 00:33.07 | l0rd_hex | me? |
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| 00:34.10 | adimit | Well, actually I just want to know the size of a *very* slim and basic debian lenny installation. I couldn't find any figures on that (only found them for desktop installs or typical server installs but that's a dedicated setup.) |
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| 00:35.29 | l0rd_hex | adimit: well depending on what you want to cut you can make it around ~200MB I'd say |
| 00:35.40 | l0rd_hex | I have debian runnng on a sheevaplug |
| 00:35.45 | Titan8990 | adimit: i would say 10gb |
| 00:35.49 | l0rd_hex | it's an arm cpu, but very small install |
| 00:36.09 | adimit | haha. Between 200MB and 10Gb is a *lot* of space... |
| 00:36.16 | l0rd_hex | adimit: debbootstap is handy :) |
| 00:36.24 | l0rd_hex | adimit: how slim is slim? |
| 00:36.45 | l0rd_hex | like solid state drives kinda slim? |
| 00:36.46 | adimit | l0rd_hex: yes it is. Wouldn't want to install my doms without it. |
| 00:36.53 | Titan8990 | adimit: you could get an install in 200mb I believe... but log files, kernel backups, caches take disk space |
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| 00:37.02 | adimit | l0rd_hex: no, it's a 2.5TB server. |
| 00:37.19 | l0rd_hex | 2.5TB is slim? |
| 00:37.21 | l0rd_hex | damn.. |
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| 00:37.28 | adimit | But it'll be rather cramped in there before long, so I'd prefer to not waste anything. |
| 00:37.37 | adimit | haha, no. 2.5TB is actually quite a lot. |
| 00:37.47 | l0rd_hex | adimit: :P |
| 00:37.58 | l0rd_hex | adimit: how many users on your kdc? |
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| 00:38.11 | adimit | Something between 50 and 200. |
| 00:38.20 | adimit | With room for more, preferably. |
| 00:38.40 | l0rd_hex | adimit: and you're just serving kerberos, nothing else? |
| 00:39.07 | nubcake | is there a way to configure the vnc server through ssh without actually having x-server up and running (its installed off course) |
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| 00:39.48 | adimit | l0rd_hex: on that guest, yes. the dom0 is hosting quite a lot more, but I wanted a SSO for the different services (since they're going to be spread around many VMs and physical machines) |
| 00:40.00 | nubcake | i mean.. configure like setting it to not require a local user to accept incoming connections, but require the remote user to authenticate theirselves entering a given password |
| 00:40.12 | adimit | I would be a fool to host a 200 user kdc on a 2.5TB machine. |
| 00:40.22 | l0rd_hex | adimit: ahh cool I don't use many vms :) |
| 00:40.33 | l0rd_hex | adimit: what software do you use? Xen? |
| 00:40.44 | nubcake | (please excuse my bad english.. since it's not my native language) |
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| 00:41.07 | adimit | l0rd_hex: yes. It's a godsend. I really really like it. Hasn't given me too many headaches so far, and is very easy to administer. |
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| 00:41.33 | l0rd_hex | adimit: cool, I have a few clusters I'm looking after here that I'd like to put Xen + Debian on |
| 00:41.39 | Skadoodle | Hello |
| 00:41.50 | Skadoodle | Does anyone have any experience using dmraid here? |
| 00:42.09 | l0rd_hex | adimit: right now I'm using Rocks and a FreeBSD / ZFS exported filesystem |
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| 00:44.39 | adimit | l0rd_hex: give xen & Debian a try, I'd say. The documentation is a bit spotty, but there's some good howtos. Besides, it's low maintenance. |
| 00:45.08 | adimit | I use a Raid5 with a spare disk, and put an lvm pv on it. The guests are using lvm partitions as disks. |
| 00:46.00 | wald0 | I want to share my misc data (works and other things) in multiple computers, up to date, and of course in separated disks... this was a common problem for me since i use linux and i still have not found any good solution for that yet, anybody has a good recommendation ? any tip, application, etc. ? |
| 00:46.34 | l0rd_hex | adimit: cool, I'll give that a shot, currently I have a lv with 75% of a 500GB disk and 100% of a 1 TB for each node..it's a fucking mess :) |
| 00:46.45 | l0rd_hex | wald0: what about samba? |
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| 00:46.57 | nubcake | l0rd_hex: was about to say the same thing ^^ |
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| 00:47.09 | adimit | wald0: You might wanna try out vcs-home, if you're familiar with, say, git. I'm using it to keep track of changes in my $HOME and branch for local work. |
| 00:47.11 | l0rd_hex | nubcake: great minds ;) |
| 00:47.30 | wald0 | l0rd_hex: the idea is async, so independently, not connected, imagine an example of work from your laptop in another city |
| 00:47.38 | adimit | wald0: failing that, you're probably looking for some cloud-computing solution. Ubuntu One is going in that direction. |
| 00:47.54 | l0rd_hex | wald0: ahh, I'd probably use rsyncd |
| 00:47.55 | nubcake | well closest thing to think of (i started with windows, trying to completely switch to linux [for my personal stuff at least] ) |
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| 00:48.15 | l0rd_hex | wald0: dropbox is handy too |
| 00:49.05 | wald0 | adimit: i dont know what is cloud computing (let me google it), but im not an ubuntu user... about the git related idea it sounds very good, I was just thinkin on some kind of similar snapshot/history feature too |
| 00:49.23 | adimit | wald0: if you want history, you want git. |
| 00:49.28 | l0rd_hex | nubcake: I think your vnc idea should work too, I've often thought about a similar idea but I never got around to doing it |
| 00:49.53 | wald0 | adimit: git for $HOME ? that simple ? |
| 00:49.56 | l0rd_hex | nubcake: you mean not having to start the X-server / xdm / xinit on the server right? |
| 00:50.08 | adimit | wald0: or mercurial. Whatever floats your boat, really. Just don't use darcs if you want to check out your repository before the end of time. |
| 00:50.14 | nubcake | yeah |
| 00:50.35 | adimit | wald0: well... depends. If you have like, dunno, 259Gb of porn in ~/ somewhere, that's not a good idea. |
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| 00:51.20 | nubcake | i mean.. ssh works fine for me, but i've got some really not into linux persons which just have to use a program on the server |
| 00:51.22 | adimit | wald0: I use a 'Documents' kind of folder to keep all my text and work-related data. Then just put a .git in it and push/pull/merge/branch around. |
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| 00:51.28 | RedLizard | I'm trying to get 3d acceleration working on an ati x1650-based card on (a freshly installed) lenny (using the standard 2.6.26-2 kernel). According to the annoyingly long supported hardware list in Xorg.0.log the card is supported, but direct rendering is still disabled because of an "(EE) AIGLX error: Calling driver entry point failed". The kernel driver appears to support the card as well ("[drm] Initialized radeon 1.29.20080528 on min |
| 00:51.28 | RedLizard | are acceleration. Does anyone know what I must do to get this all working? |
| 00:52.13 | wald0 | adimit: sounds good, i will need to be more familiarized with git first, then... do you recommend me any tutorial/howto for git ? |
| 00:52.21 | nubcake | RedLizard: i dont know much about the video-card stuff, but i had to do fix-vesa on backtrack, to get my radeon hd 4670 running |
| 00:52.51 | nubcake | but i think that's just because backtrack repos have a broken ati-driver |
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| 00:53.57 | adimit | wald0: if you're not familiar with either, I suppose that Mercurial should still be easier to pick up. I don't think the performance difference is very noticable, but git is known for performing exceptionally well on binary files. Tutorials for both are all over the net. Just ask Google. |
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| 00:54.22 | RedLizard | nubcake: what exactly does fix-vesa do? |
| 00:54.51 | adimit | wald0: I'll recommend you read http://vcs-home.madduck.net/ |
| 00:55.40 | nubcake | RedLizard: sorry, i dont really know what it does, i just found out in the backtrack forums that it might help for my situation |
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| 00:56.45 | wald0 | adimit: well, there's already a long time that im waiting for the oportunity to make a look to git and learn how to use it :), i have never got the needed before yet (just using svn) |
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| 00:57.01 | SuperMiguel | i followed this guide: http://news.metaparadigma.de/linux-setting-up-a-debian-vnc-server-237/ but when i try to connect i just get a grey screen :S |
| 00:57.18 | nubcake | RedLizard: thats the actual topic: http://www.backtrack-linux.org/forums/beginners-forum/1388-no-gui.html |
| 00:57.46 | adimit | wald0: git > svn, in almost any aspect. hg > svn, too. The relation between hg and git is a matter of taste, but yes, git is awesome, I prefer it to any other vcs. It's fundamentally different from SVN though. |
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| 00:58.10 | pipeline | it doesn't make sense to make the blanket assertion that git is better than svn |
| 00:58.16 | pipeline | git and hg are fundamentally different from svn |
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| 00:58.21 | pipeline | they're not comparable products |
| 00:58.27 | nubcake | i guess it depends on the situations |
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| 00:58.34 | pipeline | it certainly does |
| 00:58.39 | pipeline | it's the difference between a jackhammer and a table saw |
| 00:58.43 | nubcake | they have both advances |
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| 00:59.03 | nubcake | err.. *they both have |
| 00:59.06 | pipeline | distributed version control is a radically different animal from a conventional version control product |
| 00:59.16 | RedLizard | nubcake: but will fix-vesa make hardware acceleration work, or will it just restore make a completely broken xorg work without hardware acceleration? |
| 00:59.48 | adimit | pipeline: I don't want to start a VCS war. As far as 'doing the job' git and svn are often used for the same purpose, that's why I even made the comparision. For the purpose at hand, vcs-home, git and hg are both vastly superior to svn, if only for their efficiency. |
| 00:59.49 | nubcake | in my case it just allowed me to use the x-server (no hardware acceleration) |
| 01:00.22 | wald0 | adimit: thx for hte link, looks to have very nice information, i will make a deeper look to it tomorrow |
| 01:00.35 | adimit | wald0: np, have fun :-) |
| 01:00.46 | RedLizard | nubcake: fortunately, normal unaccelerated xorg works without problems |
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| 01:01.29 | l0rd_hex | I'm out, cya lata bye |
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| 01:01.54 | SuperMiguel | i followed this guide: http://news.metaparadigma.de/linux-setting-up-a-debian-vnc-server-237/ but when i try to connect i just get a grey screen :S and i get this error on console : channel 2: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused |
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| 01:02.27 | rvs1st | is there a debian DVD iso that is only one? |
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| 01:02.44 | wald0 | adimit: maybe not fun but some happyness when i finish to setup everything on my new external ~ HD :), btw, im going to crypt that disk with LUKS, do you know if there's anything that prompts you a password request when you plug it ? |
| 01:02.49 | simonrvn | rvs1st: what? |
| 01:02.56 | rvs1st | was trying to dl |
| 01:02.58 | simonrvn | rvs1st: 1st one ... |
| 01:03.27 | nubcake | RedLizard: did you go this way?: http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/sarge/ (search for acceleration on the page) |
| 01:04.02 | RedLizard | no, i want to avoid fglrx if i can |
| 01:04.06 | abrotman | sarge? wtf |
| 01:04.10 | rvs1st | trying to download an iso for virtual lab. |
| 01:04.20 | RedLizard | especially if the card's supposed to be natively supported anyway |
| 01:04.21 | adimit | wald0: I know that Ubuntu does that by default (i.e. recognizes it as a LUKS partition and prompts you for the password.) As to what exactly does it, no clue. |
| 01:04.23 | abrotman | please don't follow any instructoins for sarge |
| 01:04.24 | rvs1st | im a first time user of debina |
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| 01:05.04 | abrotman | rvs1st: you can use a proxy to lower bandwidth usage if you prefer .. but the DVD holds quite a large number of packages |
| 01:05.44 | rvs1st | abrotman: so you mean to say i still have to get the whole dvd iso sets? |
| 01:06.03 | wald0 | hum, bad bad... i wonder how i can/know this, im a bit scared to try to install an ubuntu partition on my laptop |
| 01:06.05 | RedLizard | rvs1st: what would you use it for? Isn't the network installer more appropriate for what you're trying to do? |
| 01:06.06 | abrotman | rvs1st: no, you can use http sources to get the rest .. that's whta most people do |
| 01:06.24 | abrotman | wald0: are you installling debian or ubuntu ? |
| 01:06.27 | rvs1st | abrotman: ok I got your idea |
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| 01:06.52 | abrotman | rvs1st: i don't i've used a full CD or DVD since like .. 2002 ? |
| 01:07.11 | simonrvn | gives abrotman a verb |
| 01:07.12 | rvs1st | abrotman: really so u advice the network install |
| 01:07.27 | sithhappens | hello everyone, can someone tell me which version of net cd i download. i have a intel centrino 2 which is a 64 bit, do i still download the i386?? or the amd64 ? or ia64 ? im unsure. thank you |
| 01:07.31 | rvs1st | abrotman: newbie to this distro. my bad |
| 01:07.59 | abrotman | sithhappens: i386 or amd64 .. NOT ia64 |
| 01:08.07 | pipeline | sithhappens: i386 and amd64 are both fine. ia64 won't work. You probably want the "netinstall" disc. (Ironically, the netinstall does not require the net to install.) |
| 01:08.08 | hayleyw | sithhappens, read the install guide. it tells you |
| 01:08.27 | simonrvn | stop apologising for stuff you don't know :). you'll learn. |
| 01:08.29 | Vasistha | rvs1st: yeah, network install is the best. |
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| 01:08.56 | sithhappens | thank you guys |
| 01:09.00 | rvs1st | abrotman: ok since you guys in this channel are very helpful |
| 01:09.00 | sithhappens | very very much |
| 01:09.01 | agris_ | ok |
| 01:09.15 | RedLizard | rvs1st: the usual method - as used by network install - is to use a cd to install the core system only, and have the core system download all extra software you want to install directly from the internet |
| 01:09.18 | rvs1st | abrotman: you guys heard of debian on openmoko freerunner? |
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| 01:09.38 | abrotman | yes |
| 01:09.42 | wald0 | abrotman: debian, aparently ubuntu popups you a request for password when you plug a crypted usb device, i wonder how to setup this on my debian |
| 01:09.52 | exordinary | if you want to share your ex's vids --> #chatberry |
| 01:09.52 | agris_ | i'm new on debian. got to administer one virtual server run by debian. I need to get online apache with php |
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| 01:09.57 | Vasistha | rvs1st: that thing sadly bit the dust, though, didn't it? |
| 01:09.59 | agris_ | what is the easest way? :D |
| 01:10.04 | SuperMiguel | when i run netstat -a i get a line that says tcp 0 0 SuperDebian.local:5901 Miguel-Velizs-Mac:50840 ESTABLISHED is there a way to stop? or delete this? |
| 01:10.14 | Vasistha | agris_: use aptitude to install them |
| 01:10.20 | amphi | rvs1st: someone was talking about that only a little while back |
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| 01:10.27 | rvs1st | abrotman: response are overwhelming here. i know but still have heard SHR OS is still up |
| 01:10.30 | CaBa | hi |
| 01:10.34 | agris_ | o, not only that.. but with virtual hosts. ok virtual hosts i can manage myself |
| 01:11.05 | agris_ | Vasistha: its installed. apt-get apache2 php5 and cgi's too |
| 01:11.23 | Vasistha | agris_: use aptitude instead of apt-get, you will be glad you did in the long run |
| 01:11.25 | rvs1st | abrotman: it would be a waste in throwing away that freerunner for 250$ without really use |
| 01:11.38 | abrotman | rvs1st: i've never used it .. |
| 01:12.03 | CaBa | i just finished the debian installer, installing debian on a usb stick having / within an LVM, except /boot. now that i tried to boot into the new system, grub works fine, but then i get a message that my volume group cannot be found. does the default lvm configuration somehow prevent activation of pvs/vgs involving usb storage? |
| 01:12.12 | agris_ | it's just this conf file i'm confused with.. on slackware there is no such problem. ok, debian&& ubuntu has it's own move on this, so at least for now it's strange for me |
| 01:13.11 | Vasistha | agris_: okay, so you got apache an php installed, have you tried testing it to see if it works? Can you get php to make some interesting output via the web server? |
| 01:13.19 | wald0 | abrotman: you don't know anything about how to automatic prompt a password request when inserting a crypted usb device, right ? |
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| 01:13.46 | abrotman | wald0: on ubuntu? |
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| 01:14.50 | agris_ | Vasistha: no, for .php file it asks to download it. on apache2.conf i couldn't found line for index.html index.php |
| 01:15.19 | agris_ | php is enabled by default in conf dir mods-enabled (somehow) |
| 01:15.34 | Vasistha | agris_: hum, you're requeseting via http right? What happens if you go to http://localhost/ ? |
| 01:15.43 | agris_ | running |
| 01:15.57 | wald0 | abrotman: no, for debian |
| 01:16.04 | wald0 | i dont use ubuntu |
| 01:16.55 | Vasistha | agris_: you say "running" ... could you be a bit more descriptive? |
| 01:16.59 | agris_ | Vasistha: is it something like ubuntu, where i have to write some line to get it to sites-enabled |
| 01:17.02 | agris_ | ? |
| 01:17.16 | agris_ | Vasistha: apache2 is on the run and respoding |
| 01:17.27 | Vasistha | agris_: yeah, yeah, I think you're right -- I remember doing this a long, long time ago |
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| 01:17.29 | Vasistha | !apache |
| 01:17.29 | dpkg | methinks apache is a versatile, high-performance HTTP server; ask me about <apache2><install apache2><apache 1.3><apache manual>. http://wiki.debian.org/Apache http://httpd.apache.org/ #apache on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 01:18.16 | agris_ | Vasistha: g, sorry :) debian is made so complex... :) |
| 01:18.25 | Vasistha | agris_: /msg dpkg install apache2 |
| 01:18.36 | Vasistha | agris_: have a conversation with the bot, I bet he'll get you going |
| 01:18.39 | agris_ | ok, got to find the right way by myself |
| 01:18.49 | agris_ | Vasistha: thanks! |
| 01:18.51 | Vasistha | agris_: no, not by yourself -- with the bot's help |
| 01:19.01 | Vasistha | agris_: he knows more than I do anyway |
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| 01:20.02 | agris_ | it'l be cool |
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| 01:20.31 | agris_ | couple of beers and hopefully done |
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| 01:21.05 | Vasistha | agris_: oh, it shouldn't take you that long |
| 01:21.14 | agris_ | i drink fast |
| 01:21.39 | Vasistha | agris_: hah! did you do /etc/init.d/apache2 restart yet? |
| 01:22.13 | agris_ | well, i kind of know how to +/- do on ubuntu. debian shoudn't be worse |
| 01:22.22 | agris_ | Vasistha: of course :) 1st to do :P |
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| 01:22.40 | CaBa | *worse*? you are confusing something here ;) |
| 01:22.55 | Vasistha | "shouldn't be"? |
| 01:23.10 | CaBa | Vasistha: well, even considering it ;) |
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| 01:23.26 | agris_ | yes, i am confused |
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| 01:24.15 | agris_ | i've been using slackware and bsd for years, and just by eye-side looked what's the ubuntu, and it is kind of debian's derivative. so.... |
| 01:24.48 | agris_ | ..so got to get some beer :) |
| 01:26.28 | abrotman | agris_: what are you trying to do ? |
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| 01:27.07 | simonrvn | install and config apache/httpd it would seem |
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| 01:28.01 | simonrvn | probably went to the (beer) store.. |
| 01:28.10 | konbon | I just installed Debian "debian-504-powerpc-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso" on a iMac ppc 400Mhz computer, it installed perfect and rebooted, but now it went to a black screen. Any suggestions? |
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| 01:28.20 | dsv | what's a firefox extension that will block ads, popups and flash? |
| 01:28.27 | konbon | Ad-Block Plus |
| 01:28.37 | dsv | konbon, that wont, i tried it |
| 01:28.47 | simonrvn | it will |
| 01:28.59 | Vasistha | simonrvn: he's go the "it works!" screen up, but no php scripting. |
| 01:29.11 | konbon | dsv: No-Script might was as well |
| 01:29.14 | zinx | it will block ads.. you can use flashblock for dynamic flash blocking, or you can just disable flash entirely |
| 01:29.23 | zinx | noscript can block flash as well |
| 01:29.36 | simonrvn | not flash though, use flashblock for that |
| 01:29.46 | simonrvn | or ^^ |
| 01:29.48 | zinx | simonrvn: oh? i thought it used to be able to |
| 01:29.56 | zinx | ohhh irc lag :D |
| 01:30.09 | simonrvn | !listkeys php |
| 01:30.11 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'php' by key (15 of 47): #debian php ;; #debian php mysql ;; #debian php wants me to download still ;; #debian phpmyadmin ;; #debian phpnuke ;; _default php mysql ;; _default php4 security ;; _default phpbb ;; php mpm ;; php problem ;; php wants me to download ;; php wants me to download still ;; php-gtk ;; php5 ;; phpnuke. |
| 01:30.12 | konbon | no-script blocks flash just fine |
| 01:30.15 | abrotman | noscript can block the bits that use JS to detect if you have flash or some crap like that |
| 01:30.19 | agris_ | abrotman - i have to install && config apache (for virtual hosting) php mysql |
| 01:30.23 | konbon | but guys, any suggestions on my imac ? :( |
| 01:30.36 | simonrvn | !php wants me to download |
| 01:30.36 | dpkg | Carefully read and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/php*-common/README.Debian.gz and <install php>; make sure you reloaded apache, cleared your browser cache and restarted your browser. Also verify that it's still a problem outside of your browser using telnet, netcat, wget, GET, curl, etc as the browser caching the download is often a problem. Also have a look at http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/PHPDownload (Apache 1.x). |
| 01:31.03 | simonrvn | agris_: ^^^^ (/msg dpkg php wants me to download) |
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| 01:31.25 | agris_ | abrotman: for now that's all, probably later it'll be postfix with backup mx, but there's lot fo how-to for that |
| 01:31.36 | simonrvn | konbon: try booting with video=ofonly or use the fbdev driver for x |
| 01:31.41 | konbon | ok, on the boot screen, can i change my X to Versa? |
| 01:31.49 | agris_ | simonrvn: sorry, i've already done that :) |
| 01:31.54 | konbon | maybe its the video display mode |
| 01:32.04 | konbon | does debian utilize versa? |
| 01:32.05 | simonrvn | konbon: the old imacs had some stupid video issues |
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| 01:32.09 | konbon | orly :( |
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| 01:32.15 | konbon | yeah, its an ATi :( |
| 01:32.17 | konbon | video card |
| 01:32.18 | simonrvn | some of them anyway |
| 01:32.26 | konbon | know fo a good link for this problem? |
| 01:32.32 | konbon | of* |
| 01:32.36 | simonrvn | this one here i have to set it to use fbdev |
| 01:32.43 | simonrvn | mostly in my head |
| 01:32.46 | konbon | oic |
| 01:33.02 | simonrvn | you may find some old XFree86Config-4 around on the eb |
| 01:33.05 | konbon | so, on the boot screen, what do i type, to load up in versa or some other one? |
| 01:33.11 | konbon | Thanks |
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| 01:33.16 | simonrvn | XF86Config-4 - whatever... |
| 01:33.20 | konbon | ty |
| 01:33.23 | simonrvn | versa? |
| 01:33.35 | konbon | it works for pup linux :) |
| 01:33.36 | simonrvn | web* |
| 01:33.40 | agris_ | is this tutorial up to date? http://awtrey.com/tutorials/dbeweb/debian.php |
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| 01:34.01 | simonrvn | wtf is a versa |
| 01:34.05 | hacker_kid | is there anyway to monitor an ssh connection, im writing a script that connects to ssh and i would like to monitor it |
| 01:35.00 | abrotman | hacker_kid: snoopy |
| 01:35.17 | hacker_kid | abrotman, much appreciated |
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| 01:39.08 | hacker_kid | abrotman, is there anyway to monitor real time as if you were on the same connection? some cli's get a bit messy in the logs, or would i have to use screen? |
| 01:39.25 | abrotman | you can do it with screen |
| 01:39.34 | abrotman | thought snoopy was real time |
| 01:39.34 | agris_ | :) openbsd has issue |
| 01:39.40 | abrotman | or you could use like 'script' and have it log out ? |
| 01:39.45 | abrotman | erm .. log out to a file |
| 01:39.50 | amphi | agris_: it's moribund? ;) |
| 01:39.54 | agris_ | anyway probably you should play with iptables |
| 01:39.55 | agris_ | ? |
| 01:40.03 | agris_ | amphi: ? |
| 01:40.20 | hacker_kid | abrotman, yeah script was my first idea, but like when you install mysql-server and it requests a root password, the interface logs are garbage, anyway i will reconfigure for screen |
| 01:40.27 | agris_ | amphi: just pure pf and pflog blabla :) |
| 01:40.42 | abrotman | hacker_kid: you can change your debconf presentation to not be curses |
| 01:40.53 | amphi | ;) |
| 01:41.22 | agris_ | no really, don't smile |
| 01:41.46 | konbon | ok, so i found a site that says that X.org is the reason why my monitor goes black after the install |
| 01:42.04 | konbon | something about X11 not recognizing it |
| 01:42.08 | agris_ | konbon: have you latest ati card? :) |
| 01:42.22 | konbon | agris_: no, its an old ass imac |
| 01:42.27 | agris_ | oh |
| 01:42.27 | konbon | imac 400Mhz g3 |
| 01:42.51 | konbon | i just need to know how to change the settings before it boots |
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| 01:42.56 | konbon | for x11 or x.org |
| 01:43.07 | konbon | so i can set it to the proper resolution and such |
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| 01:43.52 | agris_ | if it wouldn't be here, i'll tell what distribution to :P |
| 01:44.11 | agris_ | ..use |
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| 01:44.30 | konbon | you can tell me with /notice konbon |
| 01:44.36 | konbon | i might try finnix :/. |
| 01:44.42 | konbon | but i really dont want to |
| 01:44.46 | konbon | i fkn loves me some debian |
| 01:45.27 | agris_ | konbon: no. if you choose debian, then this is the way to go :) |
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| 01:46.37 | konbon | yeah, just wish i had some support :( |
| 01:46.45 | konbon | seems to be the case all the time |
| 01:47.02 | konbon | i install debian, come accross and problem , google it, then come here for the final possible answer |
| 01:47.06 | konbon | and get nothing :P |
| 01:47.14 | simonrvn | ... |
| 01:47.27 | konbon | indeed a ... |
| 01:47.28 | konbon | :P |
| 01:47.33 | simonrvn | then don't come asking and then ignore it. |
| 01:47.37 | agris_ | hey, debian has one of largest how-to manuals on web |
| 01:47.50 | simonrvn | *plonk* |
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| 01:48.18 | dabid | too many debian clones |
| 01:48.43 | agris_ | well, for example, slack has just one part of some forum, dooh. |
| 01:49.01 | konbon | simonrvn: ive yet to see the answer to a simple question |
| 01:49.10 | konbon | but maybe its just a bad day to come and ask for help |
| 01:49.21 | konbon | it happends, people have lives to live :) |
| 01:49.27 | konbon | happens* |
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| 01:50.01 | SuperMiguel | im setting up a vncserver, and when i connect all i get is a grey screen :( |
| 01:51.02 | agris_ | SuperMiguel: it's not debian. you really should check ~/.vnc*/startup file :P |
| 01:51.02 | simonrvn | konbon: ungrateful jackass |
| 01:51.33 | agris_ | and probably change it with xstartup if you'd configured it somehow before! :P |
| 01:51.53 | konbon | simonrvn: O_o |
| 01:51.55 | agris_ | what you get is standard twm :) |
| 01:52.02 | konbon | i am very greatful for Debian |
| 01:52.18 | SuperMiguel | agris_, mine is stock.. |
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| 01:52.22 | konbon | i'll go check with google once again |
| 01:52.25 | SuperMiguel | agris_, not sure what to put |
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| 01:52.52 | agris_ | SuperMiguel: ok, what is your favorite desktop manager, and have you installed it? |
| 01:52.59 | helo | is there a utility in the repos that can extract a mime-encoded file embedded in a text file (email) |
| 01:53.47 | SuperMiguel | mine looks http://pastebin.ca/1851040 |
| 01:53.54 | SuperMiguel | agris_, i just want to use gnome |
| 01:54.16 | SuperMiguel | agris_, for testing purpose.. will change it to fluxbox in few minutes.. i guess that will get me a better speed when vnced |
| 01:57.43 | agris_ | SuperMiguel: g, man, i'm using fluxbox,xfce or kde... how to start gnome... don't know. but that's what you really should look at. if you know how to start gnome on your system, just # cat /your/gnome/startup/script >> ~/.xvnc/startup |
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| 01:58.20 | agris_ | or ~/.vncserver/.. whatever :) |
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| 02:01.33 | n33t | hello there..wanna know..what is the latest version of squeeze? either beta or alpha? |
| 02:01.36 | SuperMiguel | umm |
| 02:02.09 | SuperMiguel | send me one of you files.. so i see an example |
| 02:04.24 | agris_ | sorry, man. i don't use it anymore, so no configs left on new systems |
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| 02:07.42 | SuperMiguel | np |
| 02:07.44 | agris_ | lol: ->> estarting web server: apache2apache2: Syntax error on line 78 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Cannot load modules/libphp5.so into server: modules/libphp5.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 02:07.51 | SuperMiguel | i got to work |
| 02:07.57 | bytenik | Is there a way to (easily) install Mono 2.6 on Debian? |
| 02:08.02 | bytenik | I can't seem to find a package. |
| 02:08.03 | SuperMiguel | kinda slow :( |
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| 02:08.45 | simonrvn | agris_: a2enmod php5 |
| 02:09.29 | agris_ | already done |
| 02:09.57 | agris_ | and not apt-get install php but php5 |
| 02:10.14 | abrotman | agris_: please use apttiude |
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| 02:10.20 | abrotman | bytenik: lenny? |
| 02:10.26 | bytenik | abrotman: squeeze |
| 02:10.54 | agris_ | aptitude :) ok, but then, why there's lots of apt-get in debian.org... |
| 02:10.56 | abrotman | judd: versions mono-runtime |
| 02:10.58 | judd | mono-runtime -- etch: 1.2.2.1-1etch1; etch-security: 1.2.2.1-1etch1; etch-backports: 1.9.1+dfsg-6~bpo40+1; lenny: 1.9.1+dfsg-6; lenny-backports: 2.4.2.3+dfsg-2~bpo50+1; sid: 2.4.4~svn151842-1; squeeze: 2.4.4~svn151842-1 |
| 02:11.01 | agris_ | oh.. ok, i'll try |
| 02:11.05 | abrotman | bytenik: doesn't seem so |
| 02:11.08 | bytenik | abrotman: I really don't want to have to compile it, because I'm trying to run on ARM and I don't want to have to cross compile. :p |
| 02:12.08 | n33t | i want to install squeeze..can someone help me? me, new to debian.. |
| 02:12.51 | streuner | n33t: just install lenny/stable first |
| 02:12.53 | streuner | n33t: just install lenny/stable firs |
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| 02:13.24 | streuner | n33t: after some experiences use testing/squeeze |
| 02:13.37 | streuner | n33t: /msg dpkg netinstall |
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| 02:14.20 | n33t | streuner..ermm..ic..tq |
| 02:15.10 | Vasistha | n33t: most of us here would recommend using the netinstall cd in order to do the install |
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| 02:15.42 | n33t | Vasistha: but it need a fast connection right? |
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| 02:16.18 | agris_ | ok, real debian question, how can i get original apache2.conf file back :) |
| 02:16.32 | streuner | dialup is a pain in the ass, but usually DSL is enough |
| 02:16.33 | agris_ | it's not *-default.conf |
| 02:16.36 | Vasistha | n33t: well, depends how much you're going to install. If installing X and OOo then you might want a fast connection to download all that stuff |
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| 02:17.31 | n33t | Vasistha: ermm..there is another way like downloading a cd? |
| 02:17.36 | Vasistha | n33t: if you can download a cd at a different, well-connected location, that can be a good way to go, too. |
| 02:17.57 | Vasistha | n33t: there are 17 cd's but you won't need them all. Usually the first one is sufficient, it has the most popular software on it |
| 02:18.24 | Vasistha | n33t: there are a couple different versions of the first cd -- one has gnome, one has kde, I think one has xfce. |
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| 02:19.07 | streuner | n33t: What kind of internet connection do you have? |
| 02:20.19 | n33t | streuner | Vasisthe: ermm..from what i know, kde is windows like..because im switching from win to lin.. just a broadband with 100++kbps only |
| 02:20.31 | Vasistha | agris_: dpkg-reconfigure |
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| 02:21.50 | agris_ | Vasistha: sorry, that's not the way.. :( |
| 02:21.52 | agris_ | ok |
| 02:22.02 | agris_ | how to get debian clean-install system? |
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| 02:22.40 | agris_ | i.e. i'd like to remove all packages i installed, and which haven't been in origin install |
| 02:22.59 | agris_ | and for god sake, no dependancies.... |
| 02:26.25 | mitchell_ | is this the official support for debian |
| 02:26.42 | streuner | one of many, why? |
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| 02:27.43 | mitchell_ | the people on another network claim to be the official |
| 02:27.46 | mitchell_ | ;P |
| 02:28.04 | agris_ | what is it? |
| 02:28.55 | dabid | !insult debhelper |
| 02:28.56 | dpkg | debhelper is nothing but a mangled mass of pickled squirrel guts |
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| 02:30.34 | dabid | where can i find a better web-based irc client? |
| 02:31.14 | abrotman | than what ? |
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| 02:32.12 | dabid | than this one |
| 02:32.15 | dabid | for freenode |
| 02:32.36 | dabid | sudo apt-get install xchat |
| 02:32.47 | nvz | rolls his eyes |
| 02:32.48 | agris_ | sudo apt-get install irssi |
| 02:32.49 | agris_ | ! |
| 02:33.30 | agris_ | irssi + screen = ftw |
| 02:34.21 | konbon | ok, so i found a tutorial for my problem on the debina sforums |
| 02:34.23 | konbon | forums* |
| 02:34.29 | konbon | but i cam accross one small problem |
| 02:34.42 | konbon | im in nano trying to edit the xorg.conf |
| 02:34.54 | konbon | so i can get it to work on this imac g3 |
| 02:35.17 | konbon | but when i go to the proper place "nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf (return)" |
| 02:35.21 | konbon | its all blank :( |
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| 02:35.36 | konbon | any suggestions? |
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| 02:35.58 | konbon | http://goo.gl/Wb4H |
| 02:36.00 | konbon | thats the tut |
| 02:36.37 | hideo | !tell konbon about xorg.conf |
| 02:36.42 | agris_ | run # xorgconfig |
| 02:36.44 | agris_ | :P |
| 02:37.07 | agris_ | new X.org don't use those files if they're not created |
| 02:37.23 | konbon | ah ic |
| 02:37.39 | konbon | Thanks for the help fellas :) |
| 02:37.49 | agris_ | or xorgsetup would be better |
| 02:38.02 | konbon | Oh, in Nano, it says to exit, its "^X" |
| 02:38.12 | konbon | how do i execute this, to exit to the previous screen |
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| 02:38.15 | agris_ | apt-get install joe |
| 02:38.16 | agris_ | :) |
| 02:38.28 | konbon | what is joe? |
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| 02:38.31 | hideo | konbon: ctrl + X |
| 02:38.37 | konbon | Thanks hideo |
| 02:38.38 | agris_ | my favorite text editor |
| 02:38.57 | Sazpaimon__ | is there a virtualization program that doesn't require installing a driver, or having kernel headers installed, can do x86_64 and can boot a physical disk |
| 02:39.00 | agris_ | nano sux just like pico used to :P |
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| 02:40.25 | Vasistha | agris_: would you like me to pastebin my apache2 config files? |
| 02:40.41 | nvz | Sazpaimon__: yeah, its called, keep dreaming, and you have no idea how this works. |
| 02:40.47 | Sazpaimon__ | hurr |
| 02:41.04 | Sazpaimon__ | i figured its a long shot |
| 02:41.20 | Sazpaimon__ | this reovery console doesnt have /proc/modules, uses a custom kernel, and no headers |
| 02:41.34 | Vasistha | is there a computer that can go faster than any other computer and run every operating system and program at the same time and costs under $300? |
| 02:41.58 | Vasistha | Sazpaimon__: sorry, had to make a little fun |
| 02:42.04 | nvz | Sazpaimon__: somehow I don't think you should be running a VM on your recovery console anyhow |
| 02:42.11 | Sazpaimon__ | I need to boot a virtualization program that can troubleshoot why the physical device isnt booting right. |
| 02:42.27 | Sazpaimon__ | I figure now I guess I'll just dd the drive to my home machine and boot that |
| 02:42.29 | Vasistha | why would a virtualization program help with that?? |
| 02:42.33 | hideo | um ? |
| 02:42.43 | Sazpaimon__ | Vasistha, so I can see if its a problem with grub or a problem with the kernel |
| 02:43.10 | Vasistha | Sazpaimon__: there are much better ways of figuring that out. a virtualization program is just not the right approach to that particular difficulty. |
| 02:43.30 | Sazpaimon__ | Vasistha, give me some suggestions then, this was all I could come up with |
| 02:43.49 | Vasistha | Sazpaimon__: well, what happens when you try to boot? do you get a grub menu? |
| 02:43.51 | Sazpaimon__ | keep in mind this is a remote headless box that I have no physical access to |
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| 02:44.15 | Sazpaimon__ | oh, and I have no KVM/IP or serial console |
| 02:44.35 | Vasistha | Sazpaimon__: ah, in other words, you have no idea whatsoever why it is not booting |
| 02:44.41 | Sazpaimon__ | that's correct |
| 02:45.00 | Sazpaimon__ | well, I know the reson has to do with converting my drive over to ext4 |
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| 02:45.24 | Sazpaimon__ | but my grub install supports ext4, and so does the kernel |
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| 02:45.54 | Vasistha | Sazpaimon__: wow. I... don't know what to recommend that you do, other than figuring out a way to pay a visit to the box, or get a friend to |
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| 02:46.10 | Sazpaimon__ | Vasistha, how about I go back to booting the disk in vmware or virtualbox |
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| 02:47.15 | Sazpaimon__ | what's the command again? dd if=/dev/sda1 count=1 bs=512 |
| 02:47.27 | Vasistha | Sazpaimon__: I see your rationale! |
| 02:48.08 | Vasistha | Sazpaimon__: that will copy the mbr, but ... wait, no. /dev/sda will copy the mbr, sda1 will skip it. And you have no output file, you need an of= |
| 02:48.09 | pinoyoragon | I'm having trouble loggin in using ssh from remote, i messed up my /etc/pam.d files, anyone? |
| 02:48.22 | Sazpaimon__ | yeah i need to output it to ssh |
| 02:48.39 | Sazpaimon__ | and yeah, need to dd the whole disk, not the partition |
| 02:49.31 | Sazpaimon__ | then I'll just figure out how to boot it from there |
| 02:49.49 | Sazpaimon__ | unless you have a better idea |
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| 02:51.35 | Vasistha | Sazpaimon__: if you want the whole disk, all partitions, then take out the count parameter, and make if=/dev/sda rather than sda1. You could take out the bs as well and let dd decide on the block size |
| 02:52.01 | Sazpaimon__ | right |
| 02:52.13 | Sazpaimon__ | i meant a better idea than virtualization in general |
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| 02:53.10 | Sazpaimon__ | dd count=1 if=/dev/sda | ssh user@host "dd of=/home/user/partition.image" |
| 02:53.20 | Sazpaimon__ | what's the part to compress this |
| 02:53.44 | nvz | haha |
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| 02:54.28 | hideo | you could always pipe it to gzip -9 |
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| 02:55.18 | hideo | ssh should already have a compress option though |
| 02:55.21 | Vasistha | Sazpaimon__: I thought you wanted the whole partition, not just the mbr? |
| 02:55.30 | plaztical | Hi |
| 02:55.31 | agris_ | Vasistha: could you better post what that file should look like original? i'm kind of loosing patience and rm that file :) |
| 02:56.02 | Vasistha | agris_: sure, I'll just tar up my whole /etc/apache2 and you can have a ball with it |
| 02:56.22 | Sazpaimon__ | Vasistha, wait i thought dd count=1 if=/dev/sda will do the whole disk |
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| 02:56.32 | agris_ | that would be great. beer for me if ever would meet! |
| 02:56.33 | plaztical | /join #germany |
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| 02:56.43 | hideo | remove the count |
| 02:56.45 | agris_ | s/for/from |
| 02:57.05 | Sazpaimon__ | hideo, will dd if=/dev/sda dump the disk AND the MBR? |
| 02:57.10 | streuner | he is prolly pretty lonely there |
| 02:57.17 | streuner | Mi 24. Mär 03:57:55 CET 2010 |
| 02:57.25 | streuner | ... |
| 02:57.33 | hideo | Sazpaimon__: yes that should do it |
| 02:57.35 | pinoyoragon | How do I reinstall pam.d? |
| 02:57.57 | Sazpaimon__ | so for all intents and purposes it will literally clone the drive |
| 02:57.59 | Sazpaimon__ | alright |
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| 02:58.27 | Sazpaimon__ | "dd if=/dev/dasdb | gzip -9 | ssh example.com gzip -dc | dd of=/home/user/disk.img", that'll be the command |
| 02:58.28 | hideo | now all you need is a big enough hdd to hold that image |
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| 02:58.42 | ngomes | can someone advice me about a networking channel ? |
| 02:58.46 | hideo | Sazpaimon__: ssh should have the compression option, last time I checked |
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| 02:58.48 | ngomes | here in freenode |
| 02:59.12 | streuner | pinoyoragon: pam.d is a dir? |
| 02:59.13 | Sazpaimon__ | hideo, but gzip -9 will be even better compression wont it? |
| 02:59.26 | epsilon | Sazpaimon__: yes, MBR is part of the raw disk (sda) |
| 02:59.40 | pinoyoragon | streuner: i accidentally deleted all files there |
| 03:00.01 | hideo | Sazpaimon__: I distinctly remember there was an option for compression level in ssh |
| 03:00.02 | streuner | pinoyoragon: apt-file search pam.d ? |
| 03:00.12 | nvz | this is a network, full of channels.. and oink is the sound a pig makes, a pigs make good bacon, and bacon goes good with eggs, eggs are good for breakfast, and breakfast is the most important meal of the day.. |
| 03:00.27 | Sazpaimon__ | does it really make a difference though, both methods work and will use the same amount of cpu |
| 03:00.35 | nvz | there fore I have no idea what you're talking about. |
| 03:00.36 | hideo | Sazpaimon__: I suppose not |
| 03:01.02 | streuner | pinoyoragon: well, passwd stuff is there too |
| 03:01.40 | pinoyoragon | streuner: waaa that's right... :( |
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| 03:02.43 | streuner_ | pinoyoragon: i would just backup important data now... |
| 03:02.45 | Sazpaimon__ | now i just need to clear 200GB of space on this drive |
| 03:03.03 | Sazpaimon__ | shouldnt be hard, when you have a 1TB disk you tend to get liberal with large files |
| 03:03.55 | hideo | Sazpaimon__: I'd be concerned about your connection though |
| 03:04.13 | nvz | switches to a different window to avoid IQ leakage |
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| 03:04.23 | Sazpaimon__ | I'm unmetered on both sides, 100mbit on the server side and 10 on my side |
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| 03:05.50 | hideo | Sazpaimon__: I meant, I'm unsure about the reliability of ssh when transfering something that big |
| 03:06.02 | Sazpaimon__ | I'll make a checksum |
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| 03:06.10 | Sazpaimon__ | no wait, I can't without 2 local copies |
| 03:06.22 | hideo | hah |
| 03:06.45 | Sazpaimon__ | oh well, as long as i can mount the drive and the kernel and MBR is okay that's all I need |
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| 03:11.59 | D-Boy | cd #dovecot |
| 03:12.03 | D-Boy | (oops) |
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| 03:14.01 | hacker_kid | how can i disable the curses interface when installing packages, its not predictable enough to script installations |
| 03:14.52 | karlpinc | hacker_kid: You read the man page and learn how to invoke the sub-commands you want? |
| 03:15.04 | karlpinc | hacker_kid: (from the command line.) |
| 03:15.32 | hacker_kid | karlpinc, what man page, debconf man page? |
| 03:15.37 | xeer | Firestarter seems to do absolutely nothing for routing my gateway connections. What tools are at my disposal for routing traffic from one device (wlan) into another device (eth going to a wifi router)? I'm trying to extend my signal with my new wireless N router |
| 03:17.01 | karlpinc | hacker_kid: Either "man 7 debconf" or do dpkg-reconfigure debconf if you want to make global changes. |
| 03:17.13 | hacker_kid | karlpinc, ty |
| 03:18.37 | karlpinc | xeer: Start with the ip and route commands. You also need to enable forwarding in the kernel via sysctl. I suppose there are higher level packages that do things "by magic", although I'm not a wifi guy and there's an additional layer that must be dealt with there. |
| 03:18.49 | agris_ | karlpinc: so debconf do the job for *.conf files where you write what packages to ignore and maybe what to include obligatory? |
| 03:19.46 | karlpinc | agris_: I don't know much. It asks you want you want in your config files when you install. |
| 03:20.41 | agris_ | well, i mean, sometimes there's packages you don't need/want to install |
| 03:21.04 | xeer | karlpinc: yeah, I've tried the manual commands to iptables to allow masquerading (of course ip forwarding is enabled) but the modem light on the router flashes an orange led, it notices activity but fails to handshake. |
| 03:21.27 | agris_ | so you just put bad list in one file, just like for kernel modules... |
| 03:21.39 | innociv | What do I need to do to make an ip usable by an httpd? I have 5 on my box but just one seems to work |
| 03:21.40 | agris_ | don't know how that works for debian : |
| 03:22.02 | agris_ | 5 domain names? |
| 03:22.19 | karlpinc | agris_: If you don't install required packages then you get breakage. If you want you can decide to install recommended packages, either manually or have it do it automatically. |
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| 03:22.31 | andrey91399 | I earn money here http://www.kolotibablo.com/?ref=900339 |
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| 03:23.01 | NiLon | innociv I could bet your problem is NAT so proper action would to make port forwarding to work |
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| 03:23.07 | agris_ | karlpinc: sorry for interruption... try slackware some more free time ;) |
| 03:23.09 | hideo | kline that mofo |
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| 03:23.18 | karlpinc | innociv: You need to put multiple ips on your nic, either with "ip add ..." or alias interfaces, either way in the /etc/network/interfaces file. |
| 03:23.25 | innociv | do I need to iface eth1 inet static |
| 03:23.25 | innociv | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:23.25 | innociv | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:23.32 | innociv | oops sorry for multiple. Didnt' mean to |
| 03:23.32 | hideo | !ops andrey91399 is a spammer |
| 03:23.32 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: hideo complains about: andrey91399 is a spammer |
| 03:23.45 | sithhappens | could someone tell me how i could access my website remotely. i installed apache2 and trying to test the index.html in the /var/www folder? |
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| 03:24.24 | NiLon | sithhappens and what does browser say? |
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| 03:25.21 | konbon | guys |
| 03:25.32 | squarism | exit |
| 03:25.38 | konbon | i just fixed Debian's xorg on my old ass imac g3 400Mhz |
| 03:25.38 | sithhappens | Nilon. i tried accessing it localy 127.0.0.1/index.html and that worked |
| 03:25.41 | konbon | now it works |
| 03:25.42 | innociv | then /etc/init.d/networking restart? |
| 03:25.51 | konbon | its the first time ive ever done this or attempted to mess with xorg |
| 03:25.56 | konbon | does this make me a pro? lol jk |
| 03:26.07 | konbon | i feel smarter :P |
| 03:26.24 | konbon | anyways, thanks for all the help fellas and have a great day, peace and love to all |
| 03:26.35 | hideo | congrats |
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| 03:26.57 | innociv | ah no eth1 |
| 03:26.58 | cVsup | somebody can say how can list ethernet devices? |
| 03:27.10 | innociv | fuck |
| 03:27.18 | innociv | i think i messed it up.. |
| 03:27.31 | hideo | cVsup: ifconfig -a or ip link ls |
| 03:27.35 | innociv | omg now I can't connect :\ |
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| 03:28.43 | sithhappens | NiLon, i was able to access it remotly from another computer with http://192.168.197.128/index.html |
| 03:28.54 | sithhappens | NiLon, dont i have to do some portforwarding now ? |
| 03:29.32 | innociv | I guess I need to contact my dedicated server providers support? I put in eth0, eth1, eth2 instead of eth0:1 nad such |
| 03:29.57 | NiLon | sithhappens that might not be going thru router as it's lan |
| 03:29.59 | nevyn | cVsup: ip link |
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| 03:33.04 | sithhappens | NiLon, might? atleast i can try. what ports should i forward |
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| 03:36.50 | NiLon | sithhappens 80 |
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| 03:42.29 | axisys_ | i am failing to start apache2 on ubuntu .. any suggestion to a fix would be appreciated |
| 03:42.32 | axisys_ | [Tue Mar 23 23:26:15 2010] [error] Unable to configure RSA server private key |
| 03:42.35 | axisys_ | [Tue Mar 23 23:26:15 2010] [error] SSL Library Error: 185073780 error:0B080074:x509 certificate routines:X509_check_private_key:key values mismatch |
| 03:42.40 | hayleyw | ax-ax, this isnt #ubuntu |
| 03:42.43 | axisys_ | these are the two lines i get in error |
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| 03:43.14 | hayleyw | axisys_, ^ |
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| 03:43.29 | axisys_ | hayleyw: i thought debian guys could help... i posted it in #ubuntu-server as well |
| 03:43.34 | hayleyw | !ubuntu |
| 03:43.34 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 03:43.39 | sithhappens | NiLon ok, im trying to copy a folder to /var/www but i dont have permission what could i do? |
| 03:44.03 | hayleyw | sithhappens, add your user to group www-data |
| 03:44.34 | sithhappens | k |
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| 03:48.41 | SuperMiguel | whats the default location of the virtualbox console? |
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| 03:58.32 | brianskywalker | hi, I need help making my printer work |
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| 04:02.05 | ngomes | brianskywalker, use cups web interface , is pretty simple |
| 04:03.07 | sithhappens | hayleyw, is it maybe called www-data located in /etc/group ? |
| 04:03.21 | brianskywalker | ngomes: i have cups, though i haven't been able to figure it out |
| 04:03.35 | hayleyw | sithhappens, yes. |
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| 04:03.49 | simonrvn | browser http://localhost:601/ |
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| 04:03.52 | ngomes | brianskywalker, http://your_ip:601 |
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| 04:04.38 | hayleyw | ummm...pretty sure it's 631 |
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| 04:05.01 | sithhappens | hayleyw, www-data:x:33:sixfish |
| 04:05.11 | sithhappens | hayleyw, sixfish would be the username. do i have to restart anything? |
| 04:05.22 | hayleyw | sithhappens, you have to log out and back in |
| 04:05.28 | sithhappens | ok |
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| 04:05.57 | wad | Hi folks. I'm having a really hard time getting my debian box to make the SATA hard drive (non-boot drive) attached to my sil3124 PCI SATA controller available under /proc/partitions. I can see the drive showing up in dmesg, but that's all. Is there some deep magic I still need to do? Kernel driver is in place, I flashed the BASE BIOS on the card, done everything I can think of or find in Google... nada. Help me? |
| 04:06.54 | sithhappens | hayleyw, still no permission after logout, maybe reboot ? |
| 04:07.17 | hayleyw | sithhappens, no. sudo chroot -R www-data:www-data /var/www && sudo chmod -R 775 /var/www |
| 04:07.36 | wad | I'll cross-post my question in another channel. |
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| 04:09.23 | yagoo | wad, you using sid? |
| 04:10.02 | sithhappens | hayleyw, invalid option chroot -R |
| 04:10.07 | hayleyw | sithhappens, damnit, sorry, i mistyped. i meant sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www && sudo chmod -R 775 /var/www |
| 04:10.09 | brianskywalker | ngomes: where can i find my ip? |
| 04:10.25 | sithhappens | ah ok |
| 04:10.30 | sithhappens | thats ok thank you for helping me |
| 04:10.35 | ngomes | brianskywalker, ifconfig says |
| 04:10.44 | ngomes | but u can do localhost |
| 04:10.44 | brianskywalker | ahh, ok |
| 04:10.46 | ngomes | it works too |
| 04:10.54 | ngomes | or 127.0.0.1 |
| 04:10.59 | ngomes | as u wish |
| 04:11.09 | Neo|Console | hey guys, i'm haveing an issue here |
| 04:11.33 | sithhappens | hayleyw, that worked thank you friend |
| 04:11.38 | hayleyw | sithhappens, np |
| 04:12.03 | Neo|Console | my system that i just setup is having lan issues, after about 30 sec of usage, it craps out, pings just drop and ssh dies |
| 04:12.22 | Neo|Console | and the ip address doesn't show up in ifconfig |
| 04:12.28 | brianskywalker | ngomes: ahh, found it. i was trying 601 instead of 631 |
| 04:12.29 | brianskywalker | ty |
| 04:12.41 | ngomes | yes 631. sorry |
| 04:12.41 | hayleyw | brianskywalker, that's what i said :P |
| 04:13.08 | brianskywalker | hayleyw: yeah, well that's why i tried it |
| 04:13.40 | brianskywalker | the cups web interface is very slick |
| 04:13.55 | hayleyw | apple does certain things right :P |
| 04:13.59 | Neo|Console | any ideas? |
| 04:14.42 | wad | yagoo, sid? Not sure what that is... |
| 04:15.14 | wad | (There is some conversation in #linux on my problem right now, by the way.) |
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| 04:22.58 | sithhappens | hayleyw, i checked my fopen in the php.ini and yet still it is disabled, is there anyway to enable it? |
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| 04:23.36 | hayleyw | sithhappens, you have to restart apache after enabling it in php.ini |
| 04:23.42 | sithhappens | hayleyw, maybe this is for php |
| 04:23.51 | sithhappens | hayleyw, it was always enabled. it has On |
| 04:24.08 | sithhappens | allow_url_fopen = On |
| 04:24.14 | hayleyw | sithhappens, then yeah, try ##php |
| 04:24.18 | sithhappens | ok |
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| 04:30.38 | ryan___ | Does anyone know, I've been trying to download an ISO of squeeze, but if I try Bittorrent, I get the error "Requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker" and if I try the direct download, the download will freeze after a minute or two |
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| 04:31.34 | hayleyw | ryan___, download the torrent file via the office channel |
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| 04:32.08 | hayleyw | ryan___, http://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/ |
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| 04:32.47 | ryan___ | Those are for lenny, the only place I can find squeeze is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ - Is this not the correct spot? |
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| 04:33.40 | hayleyw | ryan___, those are likely not to work. the suggested method is to install lenny, then upgrade to squeeze |
| 04:34.11 | ryan___ | Oh... No wonder they were so hard to find. :) |
| 04:34.42 | hayleyw | ryan___, yeah :) read /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze |
| 04:34.43 | ryan___ | Would I just change my sources.list to squeeze instead of lenny then run aptitude full-upgrade? |
| 04:35.02 | ryan___ | Alright. I'll check it out. thanks |
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| 04:39.42 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/hQW9BNaS this looks right?.. I'm trying to get an httpd set up 2 of the ip's |
| 04:39.49 | innociv | this is just hte interfaces part. |
| 04:40.00 | innociv | not sure what else i ened, but my 2nd httpd isn't binding to oneof the otehr ip's |
| 04:40.14 | schlurchz | ryan___: yeah, the procedure is basically: "sed -i s/lenny/sqzeeze/g /etc/apt/sources.list; aptitude full-upgrade; <repair> :)" |
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| 04:59.46 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/hQW9BNaS this looks right?.. I'm trying to get an httpd set up 2 of the ip's. I can't get an httpd to bind to the 2nd ip though |
| 05:03.37 | Zone | innociv, does ifconfig show all of the interfaces up and configured properly? can you ping all of the IP addresses? |
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| 05:05.06 | innociv | ping from my server or here? |
| 05:05.42 | innociv | ifconfig only shows the one, zone. inet addr:208.94.240.66 Bcast:208.94.240.71 Mask:255.255.255.248 |
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| 05:07.11 | Zone | innociv, add allow-hotplug and auto lines for both of the aliases |
| 05:07.53 | Zone | innociv, then do 'ifup eth0:1' and 'ifup eth0:2' |
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| 05:09.12 | innociv | if-up.d/mountnfs[eth0:1]: waiting for interface eth0:2 before doing NFS mounts (warning). on the ifup eth0:1 eth0:2 was fine |
| 05:10.25 | Zone | innociv, also, set the netmask to 255.255.255.255 on both of the aliases |
| 05:10.31 | Zone | then ifdown both and ifup them again |
| 05:10.33 | innociv | yay ty |
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| 05:15.38 | Zone | apt-cache search ncurses |
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| 05:17.38 | NoCode | Obversing nm-applet by right clicking, and going into connection information, it says my connection has no security. I'm on a wired connection. Is it supposed to be like that? I obviously want security to be on my line, but, it just boggles my mind that it says there is none. |
| 05:18.03 | NoCode | That's on eth0 |
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| 05:22.01 | Zone | NoCode, I can't think of any security you'd have on a wired connection. IPSec is possible, but very rare. |
| 05:22.20 | NoCode | Why is, "software-center" named, "Ubuntu Software Center" in my Debian installation? :| |
| 05:22.27 | NoCode | Zone: Okay, cool. |
| 05:23.08 | NoCode | Removing it also removes Gnome. Nice. |
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| 05:25.07 | rww | NoCode: I use the gnome-desktop-environment package instead. gnome installs a little bit too much for me. |
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| 05:27.32 | NoCode | rww: Nice. I won't be doing that. I don't want my installation to break. |
| 05:27.45 | NoCode | I don't even know why software-center is installed |
| 05:28.03 | NoCode | Never used the darn thing |
| 05:28.37 | rww | because it's a depend of "gnome"... |
| 05:28.52 | rww | why it's a /depend/ is anyone's guess, doesn't seem important at all to me |
| 05:29.06 | NoCode | nope, it doesn't |
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| 05:38.09 | innociv | Zone, why put the netmask to 255.255.255.255 when 255.255.255.248 works on the eth0 one? |
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| 05:40.04 | PeterSP | A big thank you to Titan8990. New kernel boots and works \o/ |
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| 05:41.20 | Zone | innociv, if there are multiple interfaces with the /29 netmask, then the kernel won't know which one to use as the origin address. Only one address should be able to respond to general network requests, the others should only respond to requests to their exact IP address |
| 05:41.52 | innociv | Is there a way to wget http://url/directory<contents> to /local/directory? |
| 05:42.02 | innociv | I should probably just remove netmask from the other 2, no, Zone? |
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| 05:42.47 | krisfremen | innociv: you mean mirror? |
| 05:42.58 | Zone | I'd leave the netmask in. better to be explicit in this case. |
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| 05:46.37 | innociv | krisfremen, err I guess? |
| 05:47.12 | krisfremen | innociv: yes, wget is capable of that |
| 05:48.07 | innociv | on an http directory when there is no index or whatever? |
| 05:48.23 | krisfremen | nope, that won't work |
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| 05:48.33 | DogBoy | depends |
| 05:48.39 | DogBoy | on how the server is setup |
| 05:48.50 | krisfremen | but in most cases it won't work |
| 05:49.02 | DogBoy | you can't say that |
| 05:49.11 | DogBoy | I mean, I guess you can say it but that don't make it true |
| 05:49.15 | DogBoy | heh |
| 05:51.16 | innociv | yeah i get 404 not found on http://example.org/directory. but http://example.org/directory/file.ext works. |
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| 05:52.21 | DogBoy | the question doesn't have that much to do with wget really |
| 05:55.10 | flixil | Can somebody recomend me a good handwritting hanzi input software for linux? Tried tegaki and tomoe and not convinced. |
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| 05:56.56 | DogBoy | actually in some cases that's the _only_ way it will work |
| 05:57.19 | DogBoy | if there is no index file |
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| 06:13.00 | krisfremen | i have a question |
| 06:13.10 | krisfremen | why is transferring over sftp so slow? |
| 06:13.15 | krisfremen | i barely get 80 kbps |
| 06:13.30 | krisfremen | and i have a 100mbit connection on both ends |
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| 06:14.58 | ||arifaX | Hi, I want to have an Xserver running in a window under my current X. How can I do that? |
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| 06:15.54 | krisfremen | anyone? |
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| 06:17.38 | sithhappens | i got my web server setup with but i cant access the content from outside with an ISP ip address, i even port forwarded the private ip 192.168.1.66 port 80 tcp on my router, can anyone help please |
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| 06:18.40 | krisfremen | sithhappens: port forwarding |
| 06:18.50 | krisfremen | make sure it's properly set up |
| 06:19.06 | Zone | krisfremen, SFTP is encrypted, that takes CPU overhead. And there is always TCP/IP network overhead. |
| 06:19.10 | ||arifaX | sithhappens: go to grc.com and use ShieldsUP! to verify that port 80 is really open |
| 06:19.37 | krisfremen | Zone: the cpu is barely 1% |
| 06:19.51 | sithhappens | krisfremen, everything is 100 set up right, i can access my site from http://192.168.1.66/index.html |
| 06:20.08 | sithhappens | krisfremen, i portforwared that private ip on port 80 tcp and it is enabled |
| 06:20.08 | krisfremen | and it's between two 100mbit servers |
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| 06:20.53 | Zone | krisfremen, are you getting 80Kbps or 80KBps? |
| 06:21.13 | krisfremen | kilobytes |
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| 06:21.34 | Zone | that's 640.0Kbps, which is quite good for 100Mbps link |
| 06:21.51 | krisfremen | should be about 12000 |
| 06:22.48 | Zone | krisfremen, set up Apache on the origin server and fetch it that way. then you'll be able to see how much is the network and how much is the encryption overhead. |
| 06:23.10 | krisfremen | i get around 12000 kBps when downloading over apache |
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| 06:24.20 | krisfremen | which is what i should normally get |
| 06:24.21 | NeoLobster | Does anyone know how to check to see what the dependencies of a package are via apt-get or dpkg? |
| 06:24.34 | krisfremen | i'm not expecting the full speed over sftp, i know it's encrypted and all |
| 06:24.36 | krisfremen | but 80 kBps?! |
| 06:24.50 | innociv | how do i increase the ssh timeout? |
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| 06:25.25 | NeoLobster | innociv: are you having problems with ssh over a cable modem or something |
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| 06:26.10 | NeoLobster | In my ~/.ssh/config, I have: ServerAliveInterval 300 and ServerAliveCountMax 3 |
| 06:26.18 | innociv | Yes. It times out after half an hour, 15 minutes, or something |
| 06:26.32 | NeoLobster | that's worked for me on comcast |
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| 06:26.46 | NeoLobster | (that's on the client machine, obviously) |
| 06:27.32 | WormFood | [1295988.120919] sr0: CDROM not ready. Make sure there is a disc in the drive. <-- nice..now my dvd drive is completely unresponsive....anyone know how I can reset the drive without rebooting or pulling the power to the drive? |
| 06:28.02 | Zone | WormFood, did you try the 'eject' command? |
| 06:28.05 | sithhappens | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:28.15 | WormFood | of course |
| 06:28.50 | WormFood | sithhappens, what is your IP? |
| 06:28.57 | sithhappens | http://71.231.192.237/index.html |
| 06:29.18 | Zone | NeoLobster, aptitude show <package> will show the Depends: line. apt-cache rdepends will show reverse dependency information. |
| 06:29.19 | sithhappens | does it work for you ? |
| 06:29.23 | krisfremen | nope, doesn't work |
| 06:29.35 | sithhappens | mcould this be a problem |
| 06:29.37 | WormFood | not yet, but I may need to route it through my vpn if that address is blocked in China |
| 06:29.39 | sithhappens | i have debian installed over vmware |
| 06:29.43 | Zone | WormFood, tried removing the cdrom module? |
| 06:29.49 | NeoLobster | Zone: thanks |
| 06:30.02 | WormFood | not yet Zone....I'll try |
| 06:30.46 | sithhappens | krisfremen, would it be a problem because i have it installed on vmware workstation ? |
| 06:31.03 | krisfremen | sithhappens: probably |
| 06:31.04 | sithhappens | krisfremen, i mean im accessing it localy from its private ip without a problem |
| 06:31.10 | innociv | er |
| 06:31.13 | innociv | where is .ssh? |
| 06:31.27 | Zone | ~ |
| 06:31.29 | sithhappens | krisfremen, if thats the case i dont get how i can access it with http://192.168.1.66/index.html, which is the private ip VMware assigned to Debian |
| 06:31.48 | krisfremen | yes, but that won't be what your router forwards to |
| 06:31.57 | sithhappens | krisfremen, yes it is |
| 06:32.05 | krisfremen | is that your eth0 address? |
| 06:32.10 | sithhappens | krisfremen, yes |
| 06:32.12 | krisfremen | hmm |
| 06:32.15 | Zone | sithhappens, can you ping your router from 192.168.1.66? |
| 06:32.22 | sithhappens | let me try |
| 06:32.25 | NeoLobster | innociv: ~ is an alias for /home/your_user_name (generally) |
| 06:32.42 | innociv | yeah i don't seem to have an .ssh in there though.. |
| 06:32.46 | innociv | i figured that is what he meant |
| 06:32.46 | krisfremen | innociv: just make it |
| 06:32.47 | NeoLobster | you can create it |
| 06:32.52 | ||arifaX | sithhappens: what vm-network did you create? private - shared with host - or virtually connected to the "real" ethernet cable? |
| 06:33.01 | innociv | oh |
| 06:33.03 | sithhappens | it was the NAT |
| 06:33.15 | Zone | innociv, 'ssh-keygen -t dsa' will generate a key and make the ~/.ssh with the correct permissions |
| 06:33.25 | sithhappens | ||arifaX its still runing on NAT |
| 06:33.26 | NeoLobster | ^ Yeah, do that. |
| 06:33.28 | krisfremen | sithhappens: is that the ip of the host or? |
| 06:33.41 | sithhappens | yes thats the private ip of the host |
| 06:33.41 | WormFood | Zone, i can't remove the module because something is using it (which is not right) |
| 06:33.43 | Zone | if you don't get the permissions right, ssh will often ignore the contents of the directory |
| 06:33.56 | ||arifaX | sithhappens: when you NAT you have to forward port 80 from outside to the ip of your machine that hosts the vm not the VM |
| 06:33.57 | sithhappens | and my routher ip is 192.168.1.3 this is how i access its settings, i just did ping. and it was not reachable :( |
| 06:33.57 | innociv | generate a public key? Won't mess anything up? |
| 06:34.06 | krisfremen | it won't |
| 06:34.08 | krisfremen | don't worry |
| 06:34.10 | Zone | WormFood, did you remove the dependent modules? 'lsmod | grep cdrom' .. probably ide_cd or similar |
| 06:34.16 | sithhappens | oh it wont ok |
| 06:34.20 | krisfremen | if you don't use them.. won't matter |
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| 06:34.45 | WormFood | yeah, it won't let me remove them |
| 06:34.47 | WormFood | I'm trying |
| 06:34.52 | sithhappens | ohh so portforward the private ip of the actual machine that hosts the vm??? |
| 06:34.53 | sithhappens | let me try that |
| 06:35.04 | WormFood | I'm well aware of the other modules I need to remove |
| 06:35.07 | krisfremen | ... |
| 06:35.32 | WormFood | fuck! |
| 06:35.34 | Zone | WormFood, my guess is you're borked. there are plenty of IOCTL's for CDROM's, one of them might be able to reset it |
| 06:35.47 | ||arifaX | sithhappens: yes that should work if that private machine has no service running on port 80 already |
| 06:36.03 | Sazpaimon | what package does "watch" come from |
| 06:36.06 | WormFood | fuckin' bullshit! I just burned a CD, and now I have to reboot? what is this, windows? |
| 06:36.28 | ||arifaX | WormFood: :) Shit happens |
| 06:36.33 | sithhappens | lol |
| 06:36.57 | sithhappens | it still doesnt work :( the actual machine thats hosting VMware, is 192.168.1.51 and the vmware debian is 192.168.1.66 |
| 06:37.01 | ||arifaX | WormFood: maybe its a machine designed for windows ;) |
| 06:37.19 | krisfremen | you need to use the host ip afaik |
| 06:37.21 | Zone | sithhappens, you'd have to route from the .51 machine to .66 as well |
| 06:37.38 | sithhappens | oh |
| 06:37.38 | ||arifaX | sithhappens: so http://192.168.1.51 on the hosting machine should bring up the page at first step |
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| 06:38.20 | ||arifaX | sithhappens: maybe you the hosting machine must be able to do port forwarding, too |
| 06:39.06 | Zone | sithhappens, can you ping your router from the .51 machine? |
| 06:39.17 | WormFood | I can't really blame this on linux, since I don't know what exactly happened....but I do know sometimes this drive will refuse to eject when you hit the eject button, so clearly the firmware isn't that great |
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| 06:39.18 | sithhappens | zone. i cant add the .51 and 66 togehter |
| 06:39.25 | sithhappens | Zone, it tells me the port is already there |
| 06:39.44 | sithhappens | zone, yes ping to router works from machine that hosts vmware |
| 06:39.50 | sithhappens | Zone, 1 ms |
| 06:40.10 | Zone | sithhappens, right, so your router can see the .51 machine but not the .66 machine. So you route from router -> .51 -> .66 |
| 06:40.36 | sithhappens | Zone, but this routher only lets me specify specific ip it dosnt have range |
| 06:40.42 | sithhappens | can i put .* ? |
| 06:40.53 | Zone | sigh |
| 06:41.06 | Zone | the router sends to .51 |
| 06:41.10 | Zone | .51 sends to .66 |
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| 06:41.25 | WormFood | what the fuck? dvd+rw-mediainfo won't give me the info on a CD-R? |
| 06:42.44 | sithhappens | im sorry man.. im still not getting you :( |
| 06:43.39 | sithhappens | Zone, http://img19.imageshack.us/i/portrd.jpg/ |
| 06:43.48 | sithhappens | Zone, i took a screen shot of the linksys router port forward page |
| 06:44.17 | Zone | sithhappens, on the .51 machine you have to set it up so that .51:80 sends to .66:80. that has nothing to do with the router, you only need to set the router to forward to .51 |
| 06:44.47 | sithhappens | Zone, how would i do that on the machine itself ? |
| 06:44.56 | sithhappens | Zone, os has its on port forwarding service or somethign? |
| 06:45.11 | Zone | sithhappens, iptables, or probably VMWare has a GUI to do that |
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| 06:46.05 | krisfremen | so nobody knows how to increase the speed somehow on sftp transfers? |
| 06:46.05 | Zone | although it's odd that the VM OS can't ping the router. I would think there must be a VMWare setting to make the VM instance's interfaces more public.. |
| 06:46.25 | sithhappens | Zone, it looks like vm does |
| 06:46.34 | Zone | krisfremen, using the Blowfish algorithm will speed is up somewhat. not that much though. |
| 06:46.39 | sithhappens | Zone, in NAT settings under virtual network editor, i am able to port forward |
| 06:46.56 | Zone | sithhappens, yeah, that will be easier than learning IP tables |
| 06:47.10 | krisfremen | i tried that |
| 06:47.20 | krisfremen | doesn't make much of a difference |
| 06:47.53 | sithhappens | Zone, ok it is now asking for virtual machine port? how would i found virtual machine port |
| 06:47.59 | Serajewe1KS | krisfremen: apache is able to use sendfile() too, scp cannot |
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| 06:48.16 | Zone | sithhappens, that would be port 80 |
| 06:48.19 | Serajewe1KS | krisfremen: not sure why it would make that much of a bandwidth difference, my gut says your measurements are off somehow |
| 06:48.26 | sithhappens | Zone, host port is same? |
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| 06:48.32 | Zone | sithhappens, yep |
| 06:48.33 | krisfremen | my measurements of what? |
| 06:48.34 | sithhappens | Zone, port 80 ok |
| 06:48.44 | Serajewe1KS | krisfremen: speed |
| 06:48.52 | sithhappens | Zone, gateway ip would be my routher ip?? |
| 06:49.08 | krisfremen | my connection on both computers is 100 mbit ~ 12500 kBps |
| 06:49.11 | krisfremen | they're not on lan |
| 06:49.19 | sithhappens | Zone, my routher ip is 192.168.1.3 and the gateway ip is showing 192.168.1.2 |
| 06:49.37 | krisfremen | one of them is in germany, the other in new york |
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| 06:49.59 | krisfremen | i only get 80-120 kBps over sftp and scp |
| 06:50.05 | Zone | sithhappens, you sure that interface is just for port forwarding? shouldn't ask for gateway IP when doing port forwarding.. |
| 06:50.07 | extor | What am I doing wrong here? It keeps telling me unknown parameter blah blah..do I only get one append line? http://i43.tinypic.com/28gqv6s.jpg |
| 06:50.13 | Serajewe1KS | krisfremen: ah, then perhaps some router in between is prioritizing traffic on port 80 |
| 06:50.56 | Zone | or the NSA cracks it in transit. that isn't a line speed process unfortunately |
| 06:50.58 | sithhappens | Zone, http://img97.imageshack.us/i/portc.jpg/ |
| 06:51.11 | Serajewe1KS | extor: ask in #vbox? |
| 06:51.24 | krisfremen | i tried setting the ssh port to everything i could imagine |
| 06:51.36 | krisfremen | 22, 443, 80, high ports |
| 06:51.40 | krisfremen | nothing makes a difference |
| 06:51.51 | Zone | sithhappens, odd. .3 is the gateway though |
| 06:51.58 | Serajewe1KS | krisfremen: monitor top on both ends, see if it's chewing through cpu too fast? |
| 06:52.13 | Serajewe1KS | krisfremen: also, qos can inspect the content of packets too, not just their port numbers |
| 06:52.13 | krisfremen | nope, no abnormal cpu usage |
| 06:52.45 | extor | Serajewe1KS, this is nothing to do with vbox, I'm PXE booting debian |
| 06:52.46 | Serajewe1KS | krisfremen: i'd be interested to see what apache+ssl does |
| 06:53.11 | sithhappens | Zone, have you seen it? |
| 06:53.22 | Serajewe1KS | extor: ah, that detail would have been helpful |
| 06:53.25 | Zone | krisfremen, have you run 'dstat -a' to see what the disks are doing? |
| 06:53.56 | Serajewe1KS | krisfremen: can't say i've ever had scp perform much worse than apache |
| 06:55.01 | krisfremen | Zone: hdds are free too |
| 06:55.01 | Zone | I know when I transfer on a gigabit LAN even with SCSI 15K disks, the disk write speed is still the bottleneck |
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| 06:55.34 | krisfremen | i know, i said i'm not expecting the full 100 mbit, i just want something more than 80 kBps |
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| 06:55.46 | Zone | krisfremen, CPU iowait is 0? |
| 06:56.48 | WormFood | Zone, I pulled the cover on my machine, and jacked the power to the dvd drive, and all is good |
| 06:57.00 | WormFood | in case you wanted to know, how I got it working again |
| 06:57.09 | extor | How does one add multiple parameters to the kernel...is it possible to span more than one line somehow? |
| 06:57.33 | sithhappens | Zone, can you check it out please |
| 06:57.35 | sithhappens | Zone, http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4041/portc.jpg |
| 06:57.37 | Zone | yeah, CD writing + Linux has not had the best track record. much better in recent years though, I haven't had problems recently. |
| 06:57.59 | Zone | sithhappens, I looked at it, it seems OK. just give it a try. |
| 06:58.16 | sithhappens | Zone, even rebooted still doesnt work |
| 06:58.20 | Serajewe1KS | extor: usually you separate them with spaces... |
| 06:59.21 | krisfremen | nothing else is working on the machines |
| 06:59.23 | extor | Serajewe1KS, yeah what happens when you come to the end of the line |
| 06:59.37 | Zone | extor, just keep typing |
| 06:59.56 | Serajewe1KS | extor: if you are using a retarded text editor, it will wrap the line, which is fail |
| 07:00.07 | Serajewe1KS | extor: otherwise, you keep typing the parameters as Zone said |
| 07:00.10 | extor | how many characters can I fill a line with |
| 07:00.19 | extor | cuz the kernel can take 32 parameters |
| 07:00.28 | Serajewe1KS | extor: in a text editor or in the kernel command line? |
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| 07:01.25 | extor | in the kernel command line |
| 07:01.46 | extor | oh well nvmnd...I got enough characters this time |
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| 07:02.11 | Serajewe1KS | also if you want more accurate responses you might ask more specific questions :) |
| 07:02.17 | Zone | extor, 32 parameters doesn't sound right. It should be a fixed byte number. |
| 07:02.36 | extor | I read that somehwere. It's 32 total switches or what have you |
| 07:03.14 | sithhappens | Zone, this should of worked... argh i have no clue what to do |
| 07:03.19 | sithhappens | Zone, http://benrobb.com/2007/01/20/howto-port-forward-to-your-virtual-machine/ |
| 07:03.27 | sithhappens | Zone, that link tells me i forward it right |
| 07:03.34 | sithhappens | zone.. omfg |
| 07:03.43 | sithhappens | zone.. i had 169 instead of 168 rofl |
| 07:04.08 | Zone | extor: The number of kernel parameters is not limited, but the length of the |
| 07:04.09 | Zone | complete command line (parameters including spaces etc.) is limited to |
| 07:04.09 | Zone | a fixed number of characters. This limit depends on the architecture |
| 07:04.09 | Zone | and is between 256 and 4096 characters. It is defined in the file |
| 07:04.09 | Zone | ./include/asm/setup.h as COMMAND_LINE_SIZE. |
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| 07:04.18 | sithhappens | sadnes.. still doesnt work :( |
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| 07:04.20 | Zone | boo |
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| 07:05.57 | sithhappens | maybe need to reboot entire vmware? |
| 07:06.23 | Zone | sithhappens, you need to take it one step at a time |
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| 07:06.41 | NeoLobster | How can I see which mirror a package was downloaded from with apt-get/dpkg? |
| 07:06.53 | sithhappens | Zone, would it have to do anything with DNS ? |
| 07:07.12 | Zone | sithhappens, no, you're only using IP addresses, DNS isn't an issue |
| 07:07.29 | sithhappens | ok |
| 07:08.16 | WormFood | dns can be an issue, if it is looking up reverse name...but yeah, it should not be an issue, since you're only using the IP |
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| 07:08.56 | Zone | NeoLobster, there's no way that I know of. If the data were kept it would most likely be in /var/lib/dpkg, but I doubt it is saved |
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| 07:09.42 | NeoLobster | Zone: I remember a place... where you can have it show you all available versions of a package |
| 07:09.50 | NeoLobster | and it shows you which mirrors it comes from |
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| 07:10.16 | NeoLobster | I just can't remember where it was :-/ |
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| 07:11.04 | Zone | NeoLobster, before or after you install the package? |
| 07:11.17 | NeoLobster | oh, it was in apt-cache policy |
| 07:11.22 | NeoLobster | that's what I was looking for |
| 07:11.23 | yo_rmn | hello, while trying to install updates i get: trying to overwrite'/usr/share/ffmpeg/libx264-slowfirstpass.ffpreset', which is also in package livavcodec 52 4 |
| 07:11.24 | yo_rmn | can I solve it by removing this last one? |
| 07:11.41 | sithhappens | Zone, any other suggestions ? |
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| 07:12.48 | Zone | sithhappens, isolate the issue. start a webserver on the .51 machine, make sure your router -> .51 is working |
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| 07:28.40 | oh_noes | is it posisble to tell sysstat/sadc to collect data every N minutes? At the moment it's doing it every 5 minutes. |
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| 07:30.14 | Zbyshek | oh_noes: correct cron |
| 07:30.30 | NeoLobster | I seem to remember a tool that would take a source directory with a config and makefile and turn it into a debian package. Anyone know the name of that tool/have a guide handy? |
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| 07:31.59 | Zone | NeoLobster, see dpkg-dev and the New Maintainers Guide |
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| 07:32.00 | oh_noes | Zbyshek: but i want to run it every 15 seconds while I run a test on the server |
| 07:32.22 | babilen | NeoLobster: You are looking for dh_make |
| 07:32.24 | Zone | oh_noes, so run it in a for loop on the shell |
| 07:32.40 | Zone | or while |
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| 07:40.07 | jony123 | I have to have this to complie a file '- glut or freeglut libraries and header files.' I searched the repos throught aptitude. But i can't find any relivant packages |
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| 07:40.48 | jony123 | file that needed * |
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| 07:42.01 | Zone | jony123, use 'apt-cache search', it's better than aptitude's search |
| 07:42.08 | Zone | jony123, or packages.debian.org |
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| 07:43.40 | babilen | Zone: How is apt-cache search better? |
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| 07:44.34 | babilen | jony123: Do you know the name of the file you are searching for? |
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| 07:45.21 | Zone | babilen, I'm not sure of the implementation differences, but apt-cache consistently returns more results, and better results |
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| 07:45.56 | jony123 | babilen: Im not sure of the file name. But i know its glut or freegult. I found its website though so im just going to install it from source. |
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| 07:46.01 | jony123 | http://freeglut.sourceforge.net/docs/install.php ^ |
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| 07:46.21 | babilen | Zone: The difference is that apt-cache search is searching the package descriptions in addition to package names as well. So "apt-cache foo" == "aptitude search '~nfoo~dfoo'" |
| 07:46.29 | Zone | jony123, 'apt-cache search freeglut' tell you right off the bat what you need |
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| 07:47.04 | babilen | ,info freeglut3-dev |
| 07:47.06 | judd | freeglut3-dev (libdevel, optional): OpenGL Utility Toolkit development files. Version: 2.4.0-6.1; Size: 150.5k; Installed: 548k |
| 07:47.12 | babilen | jony123: ^^^ ? |
| 07:47.23 | babilen | ,versions freeglut3-dev |
| 07:47.25 | judd | freeglut3-dev -- etch: 2.4.0-5; lenny: 2.4.0-6.1; sid: 2.4.0-9; squeeze: 2.4.0-9 |
| 07:47.28 | jony123 | Huh. maybe aptitude was srewing with me |
| 07:47.37 | babilen | jony123: I doubt it :) |
| 07:47.46 | babilen | Only dpkg screws people ;) |
| 07:47.49 | babilen | !love jony123 |
| 07:47.49 | dpkg | makes love to jony123, caressing jony123's hair, whispering sweet nothings in jony123's ear... |
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| 07:48.36 | jony123 | right |
| 07:48.45 | jony123 | Anyway thanks. Its install now. |
| 07:48.56 | babilen | great |
| 07:49.16 | babilen | jony123: You might want to take a look at "apt-file" too |
| 07:49.53 | jony123 | thanks |
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| 07:51.35 | NeoLobster | I'm trying to install a discontinued version of postgres via http://snapshot.debian.net/package/postgresql-8.2 's package sources, but I'm getting 404 errors: W: Failed to fetch http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/dists/pool/postgresql-8.0/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found |
| 07:52.01 | NeoLobster | Does anyone know what I may need to change in the sources.list to make it look in the right spot? |
| 07:52.17 | NeoLobster | I think the binary-i386 portion is what's messing it up |
| 07:53.46 | babilen | !snapshot |
| 07:53.46 | dpkg | http://snapshot-dev.debian.org/ (soon to be http://snapshot.debian.org/) is an archive of all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way undistributable. This service replaces the old http://snapshot.debian.net/ site that is no longer maintained. |
| 07:54.01 | babilen | NeoLobster: Check the above site - the name might be different :-\ |
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| 07:55.42 | NeoLobster | babilen: will do... Thanks. |
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| 07:56.43 | Zone | how would undistributable packages be eligible for hosting? kind of defeats the point of being undistributable |
| 07:56.54 | suw | hello |
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| 07:57.52 | NeoLobster | Zone: Helps immensely with things Debian decided to upgrade out of the package repos, but people still depend on... Like specific version of postgres. |
| 07:57.56 | suw | anyone know how to change in mrtg config the in or out label with something else? - I'm counting numbers of mails and getting In instead Queue |
| 07:58.21 | NeoLobster | Postgres 8.2 -> Postgres 8.3 was VERY invasive and many queries from 8.2 don't work on 8.3 without some loving because of their removal of implicit casts. |
| 07:58.34 | NeoLobster | Alas, sometimes we still need to install the old version |
| 07:58.40 | Zone | NeoLobster, sure, old packages are great to have around. but the ones that were removed for being undistributable would still be undistributable now |
| 07:59.55 | Zone | suw, probably not the answer you were looking for, but have you tried Cacti? makes manual MTRG config editing unnecessary |
| 07:59.57 | NeoLobster | I suppose... But some crazy person probably needs one sometime, and this is the Internet ;-) |
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| 08:01.16 | suw | Zone: I'm configuring mrtg to use my own scripts, but i'll take a look at cacti too - maybe I'll see there what I need. Thank you. |
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| 08:05.28 | Zone | suw, Cacti can handle custom scripts, I use it for that. Uses RRDTool on the backend, which is the successor to MRTG |
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| 08:07.43 | dondelelcaro | suw: you also may want to consider using munin instead, which does almost all of that for you |
| 08:07.43 | suw | Zone: It's true what are you saying, but I don't want to have another daemon to run in my background, that server handles 1.600.000 http unique hits/24 hour - the only option to monitor what I need is to use cron and my own short optimized bash scripts. |
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| 08:09.38 | suw | ok - thank you all for your support - I have to go. - bye |
| 08:09.50 | suw | meeting boss time... |
| 08:10.26 | Zone | 4am here, I'm out too |
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| 08:13.23 | macrobat | how can i set smplayer as the default videoplayer? it doesnt come up in update-alternatives |
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| 08:14.54 | macrobat | i dont like gnme mplayer and it is bugged |
| 08:15.02 | valdyn | macrobat: default for what? |
| 08:15.22 | macrobat | for clicking on a videofile |
| 08:15.26 | macrobat | to play |
| 08:15.30 | valdyn | macrobat: in nautilus? |
| 08:15.39 | NeoLobster | If I know for a fact that the errors that happened during package configuration don't affect my package's usage... How can I change the package's status from iF to ii ? |
| 08:15.40 | macrobat | thunar |
| 08:15.55 | macrobat | or whatever filebrowser |
| 08:16.06 | valdyn | macrobat: cant you pick the app when rightclicking on the file? |
| 08:16.26 | macrobat | no, there are only bad alternatives |
| 08:17.04 | macrobat | i dont want to open .ogv in audacious, soundconverter or exaile |
| 08:17.32 | valdyn | macrobat: you should be able to pick a random not-listed application |
| 08:17.44 | valdyn | macrobat: but i dont know thunar |
| 08:18.17 | macrobat | it doesnt show up. idk, thunar handles the desktop folder |
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| 08:19.46 | NeoLobster | Never mind... I edited /var/lib/dpkg/status and changed half-configured to installed. |
| 08:19.51 | NeoLobster | It worked. |
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| 08:20.06 | valdyn | macrobat: . Right-click a file and select Open With Other Application |
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| 08:20.22 | valdyn | macrobat: that's a quote, does that not exist? |
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| 08:21.54 | macrobat | its a minor annoyance, i can live with it |
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| 08:28.24 | wellington | is anyone on running running testing that can spare 5 seconds for me |
| 08:29.31 | adb | still go ask even |
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| 08:30.05 | wellington | i just need to know if other testing users can get a system beep from a ctrl+g in a terminal |
| 08:30.49 | wellington | i can't find out if they took out pc beeps or if something broke here |
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| 08:31.10 | NeoLobster | ctrl-g doesn't do anything on my debian testing install |
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| 08:31.18 | NeoLobster | just from a bash shell |
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| 08:31.59 | wellington | what about 'tput bel' |
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| 08:32.27 | NeoLobster | nada |
| 08:32.30 | wellington | f! |
| 08:32.41 | wellington | then they took them out or they're broken |
| 08:32.43 | NeoLobster | internal speaker works... beeps on POST |
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| 08:32.54 | wellington | ya same is true for me |
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| 08:33.28 | wellington | i miss my pc speaker beeps ='( |
| 08:33.37 | wellington | thanks for doin that |
| 08:33.40 | NeoLobster | np |
| 08:33.52 | NeoLobster | I guess i never noticed because I always ssh into it |
| 08:33.58 | NeoLobster | (but I went to the console for that) |
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| 08:41.55 | ethanol | mornin' all! |
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| 08:45.30 | babilen | moin |
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| 09:04.56 | pinoyoragon | After invoking this command--->"ldapadd -x -D cn=admin,cn=config -W -f /tmp/cn\=samba.ldif" the error says "ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49)" after entering the password. Anyone? |
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| 09:09.46 | ethanol | uh, how do I unsplit screen? |
| 09:09.48 | ethanol | :< |
| 09:09.52 | ethanol | I feel like an idiot |
| 09:10.13 | SSL` | ctrl + q |
| 09:10.25 | ethanol | I doubt that |
| 09:10.29 | SSL` | 2 time |
| 09:10.35 | tarzeau | do you know ctrl-| ? |
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| 09:11.06 | tarzeau | SSL`: it's Q actually |
| 09:11.22 | Kamping_Kaiser | ^^ |
| 09:11.30 | SSL` | (: |
| 09:11.33 | ethanol | tarzeau: I dont see | anywhere when I do ctrl+a+? |
| 09:11.35 | ethanol | what does | do? |
| 09:11.56 | tarzeau | ethanol: ctrl a | actually |
| 09:12.16 | ethanol | wel I don't want to really quit and kill all windows |
| 09:12.22 | ethanol | cause irssi is running in one of them |
| 09:12.44 | tarzeau | ctrl-a Q doesn't kill windows, it just removes all splits |
| 09:12.53 | tarzeau | meaning you can get them via ctrl-a " again |
| 09:13.10 | ethanol | ók |
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| 09:13.15 | ethanol | got rid of them |
| 09:13.26 | ethanol | what I really wanted, was a second screen session, in a split window below the current |
| 09:13.32 | ethanol | should I first make a new screen, then split? |
| 09:13.42 | tarzeau | ethanol: a screen in a screen? |
| 09:13.47 | ethanol | no |
| 09:13.48 | ethanol | uh |
| 09:13.53 | ethanol | screen | screen |
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| 09:14.03 | ethanol | or rather, window | window |
| 09:14.03 | tarzeau | you mean window and window? |
| 09:14.17 | tarzeau | ethanol: yeah that's ctrl-a-S or ctrl-a-| |
| 09:14.34 | ethanol | ok |
| 09:14.37 | tarzeau | depending if you want to split horizontally or vertically |
| 09:14.42 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 09:14.42 | dpkg | methinks popcon is the Debian Popularity contest, the basis for what packages appear on the first few CDs/DVDs etc (by rank). Install the popularity-contest package to participate. See the results at http://popcon.debian.org/ -- See the FAQ at http://popcon.debian.org/FAQ |
| 09:14.47 | ethanol | so now I have 2 windows. but how do I move to the second one? |
| 09:14.54 | tarzeau | ctrl-a-tab |
| 09:15.20 | ethanol | right! but the second window has no terminal. is this where ctrl+a L comes into play? |
| 09:15.32 | tarzeau | you just open a new one with ctrl-a-c |
| 09:15.44 | ethanol | aaaah! |
| 09:15.49 | ethanol | sweet, this is what I wanted |
| 09:15.52 | ethanol | thanks bunches! |
| 09:15.53 | tarzeau | never used ctrl-L |
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| 09:16.33 | cybor0 | hello |
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| 09:16.54 | ethanol | hrm, only thing that doesn't work anymore now is pageup |
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| 09:17.28 | raccoon_ | ethanol: C-a Esc enters "copy mode", which lets you scroll up/down using pgup/pgdn. |
| 09:17.44 | raccoon_ | ethanol: exit "copy mode" by pressing Esc again |
| 09:18.02 | ethanol | raccoon_: sweet, thanks. I think I'm all set now : ) |
| 09:18.33 | cybor0 | someone help with samba "Failed to become a local master browser." |
| 09:18.59 | ethanol | oh. one question remains. how does one resize a window (height wise) ? |
| 09:19.04 | ethanol | I can only see width |
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| 09:20.22 | raccoon_ | ethanol: C-a : lets you enter commands like in vim, just enter resize <sizeA> |
| 09:20.23 | raccoon_ | -A |
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| 09:22.38 | ethanol | doesn't seem to work, that lets me set window title only |
| 09:22.46 | ethanol | or most likely, I'm doing something wrong |
| 09:23.14 | raccoon_ | ethanol: yeah, it's Control-A and then a colon (:) |
| 09:23.26 | raccoon_ | ethanol: lower a, sorry. |
| 09:24.03 | ethanol | ah ok, I misunderstood what you said. I kept doing ctrl+a then capital A |
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| 09:24.19 | ethanol | not sure why |
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| 09:24.44 | ethanol | god I'm really starting to love screen <3 |
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| 09:36.49 | krion_ | matin |
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| 09:39.46 | titux77 | hi |
| 09:39.58 | titux77 | I have a question |
| 09:40.25 | titux77 | When we install debian distrib, how to disable eject of cd tray at the end ? |
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| 09:41.09 | [Anti] | hi there |
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| 09:41.49 | [Anti] | tell me, please, if dpkg_auto_configure -Skde means "with KDE" or "without"? |
| 09:42.11 | [Anti] | or "search"? O_o |
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| 09:42.31 | jelly | [Anti]: sorry, what is "dpkg_auto_configure"? |
| 09:42.43 | [Anti] | oh, sorry |
| 09:43.00 | [Anti] | i mean dh_auto_configure |
| 09:43.02 | [Anti] | ;) |
| 09:43.35 | titux77 | when we work remotly on debian install on blade center, the cd tray eject is boring :( |
| 09:43.42 | dennis___ | hi alll. how can i see what interface card ive installed. i wanna know 1gbit or 100mbit |
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| 09:44.35 | babilen | dennis___: ethtool provides that information |
| 09:44.53 | Lazy^ | you were too slow =) |
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| 09:45.37 | babilen | Just realised that - patience i say! |
| 09:45.52 | krion | hi guys |
| 09:46.06 | babilen | !tell [Anti] -about mentors |
| 09:46.29 | babilen | [Anti]: Ask there - i'm not sure |
| 09:46.33 | krion | is it possible to run a xen domU with 32 bit kernel on a dom0 with 64bits kernel |
| 09:46.43 | krion | my 32bits domU is already 32bits userland |
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| 09:47.00 | krion | i see the http://wiki.debian.org/Xen but i'm not sure to understand it truely |
| 09:47.18 | jetole | does anyone know how I can view what the current version of a package is from the command line before I install it? |
| 09:47.23 | babilen | krion: I think so - it's not possible the other way round |
| 09:48.09 | adb | jetole, apt-cache show packagename |
| 09:48.26 | krion | babilen: i guess i should download a 32bits kernel on the domO then modify my xen-domU.cfg |
| 09:48.33 | babilen | jetole: Some alternatives - (i) apt-cache policy <package> (ii) aptitude show <package> (iii) rmadison <package> (this will list *all* package versions) - You probably want (i) |
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| 09:49.15 | jetole | thanks guys |
| 09:49.34 | dennis___ | sry, i lost my connection. |
| 09:49.59 | dennis___ | does someone know the command to show the interface speed? 1gbit or 100mbit? |
| 09:50.07 | babilen | krion: I have no experience with Xen, but I seem to recall that running a 32bit Guest on 64bit host is possible, but that it is problematic/impossible to it the other way round ;-\ |
| 09:50.13 | krion | dennis___: mii-tool |
| 09:50.15 | babilen | dennis___: ethtool provides that information |
| 09:50.28 | jetole | wow, so where it says version in apt-cache show, thats the actual softwatr version? |
| 09:50.51 | krion | babilen: yes, that's what the wiki page say |
| 09:51.04 | yo_rmn | Hello, I hav this issue, I can't see flash right in some sites, like Fcebook (games) or my community. I can't see my own Vids, I only hav flashplugin-nonfree (squeeze amd64) |
| 09:51.16 | krion | babilen: but there is two part, kernel land and user land |
| 09:51.19 | dennis___ | krion: SIOCGMIIPHY on 'eth0' failed: Operation not supported |
| 09:51.20 | dennis___ | no MII interfaces found |
| 09:51.23 | babilen | jetole: Try "apt-cache policy <package>" it will list all sources from which the package could be installed and marks the source with the highest priority. And yes, apt-cache show <package> gives you the version that will be installed |
| 09:51.50 | krion | dennis___: have to run it as root |
| 09:52.00 | jetole | damn, ubuntu server is behind on the current version of convirt |
| 09:52.05 | jetole | oh well. Thanks for the help |
| 09:52.21 | dennis___ | krion: i did... but the ethtool is a good one, it works, thx babilen |
| 09:52.29 | babilen | krion: It shouldn't be problematic to run a 64bit kernel with 32bit userland - But i have no experiencce with Xen (kvm here) and am therefore not an authoritive source |
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| 09:53.12 | adb | jetole, ask #ubuntu |
| 09:53.17 | krion | babilen: not, that's what i have done :) what i want to do is to run a 32bits kernel on my domU instead of the 64bits from the dom0 |
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| 09:53.34 | jetole | adb: I didn't have an ubuntu question |
| 09:53.51 | jetole | adb: although I think you meant #ubuntu-server |
| 09:53.54 | babilen | jetole: Are you using Ubuntu? |
| 09:54.24 | krion | uname -r && file /bin/ls -> 2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 /bin/ls: ELF 32-bit LSB executable |
| 09:54.30 | jetole | babilen: I'm using a lot of OS from debian to ubuntu to ubuntu to centos to windows server 08, I manage several racks |
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| 09:54.51 | krion | what i want is a 32 bit kernel |
| 09:54.54 | krion | i'm gonna try |
| 09:54.54 | jetole | I don't actually have anymore questions and my original question was about apt |
| 09:55.07 | jetole | so I'm good. You guys helped. Thanks |
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| 09:55.29 | babilen | jetole: I understand that, but there are a bunch of differences between Ubuntu and Debian and *we* only support Debian here .. I however see no problem with the question you've asked |
| 09:55.55 | jetole | Thanks again |
| 09:56.18 | babilen | jetole: Just remember that we *do not support* Ubuntu (or any other based-on-debian distro) in here |
| 09:56.25 | jetole | I know |
| 09:56.35 | Psi-Jack | Such hostility. :) |
| 09:56.40 | babilen | krion: Should work - give it a try and good luck |
| 09:56.46 | jetole | if I have a ubuntu question, well, I already knew the room to ask |
| 09:56.51 | babilen | Psi-Jack: hostility? |
| 09:57.04 | Psi-Jack | babilen: I'm just messing with ya. ;) |
| 09:57.07 | babilen | jetole: Great - Good luck and may you have a nice day |
| 09:57.13 | babilen | ;-p |
| 09:57.15 | jetole | ditto |
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| 10:00.49 | ethanol | silly question, but how does one usually print a pdf file from cli? I have a printer in cups and everything |
| 10:01.55 | ethanol | but can't really figure out what app or command to use |
| 10:02.30 | rdz | hi all. how can create a proper deb package from the files i extracted from a deb package by doing 'ar x package.deb' ? |
| 10:02.54 | themill | ethanol: acroread has the ability to do that, or use ps2pdf piped into lpr |
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| 10:03.29 | ethanol | well I already have a pdf file, so why postscript 2 pdf? |
| 10:03.30 | rvsjoen | well, at least you can use pdf2ps and then pass it to something that can spool postscript to the printer |
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| 10:03.58 | themill | ethanol: err... pdf2ps, sorry |
| 10:04.21 | ethanol | hrm, lpr command not installed |
| 10:04.28 | ethanol | only have lp |
| 10:04.55 | themill | that'll do too. just slightly different options |
| 10:06.05 | themill | ethanol: actually, "lp foo.pdf" works too |
| 10:06.06 | yo_rmn | Hello, I'm using Squeeze amd64, and I hav this problem: can u see this chat? http://www.logeek.net/m/chat/home/ well I can't use it's features because of ome issue with flashplugin-nonfree. recently I could not see vids but tht FIXED ITSELF??? half an hour ago I could'nt. I can't see right facebook games (IDC, but tht means something is not right) |
| 10:06.34 | themill | ethanol: presumably just uses pdf2ps in the background for it, but hey |
| 10:06.45 | ethanol | hrm crap, lp filename.pdf gives me the pdf file not printed cause of ram bla bla. so I have to do pdf2ps I take it |
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| 10:08.23 | yo_rmn | Plz Im' the top user and I can't chat with audio and video |
| 10:08.34 | ethanol | pdf2ps outputs to output.ps by default. how could I pipe it directly into lp ? |
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| 10:09.08 | adb | kdelibs4c2a: /usr/bin/cupsdoprint |
| 10:09.49 | themill | ethanol: give - as the output file |
| 10:10.01 | ethanol | aha |
| 10:10.03 | ethanol | that worked |
| 10:10.08 | ethanol | or well, prints |
| 10:10.11 | ethanol | not sure what it prints though |
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| 10:10.24 | themill | all the raw postscript \o/ |
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| 10:11.32 | adb | cupsdoprint -P hp_LaserJet_1010 -H localhost:631 -o Copies=1,PageSize=A4 filename.pdf |
| 10:11.45 | ethanol | cupsdoprint does not exist for me |
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| 10:12.12 | adb | read above |
| 10:13.08 | yow | hi everyone. |
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| 10:13.27 | yow | i wonder if anyone here knows why rsync yields cd+++++++++ when the size, timestamp & permissions of two directories are identical? |
| 10:13.33 | Pupeno | Can a user have more than one private ssh key? |
| 10:13.47 | lindi- | Pupeno: sure |
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| 10:14.14 | Pupeno | lindi-: when I run ssh-keygen it says it's going to overwrite ~/.ssh/id_rsa; how do I keep more than one? |
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| 10:17.09 | lindi- | Pupeno: man ssh-keygen mentions the option to save to different file |
| 10:17.38 | cybor0 | log.nmbd Unable to find domain master browser |
| 10:18.14 | cybor0 | in smb.conf i have domain master = yes |
| 10:19.41 | Pupeno | lindi-: will ssh search all files in .ssh for a matching key? |
| 10:20.09 | lindi- | Pupeno: it won't |
| 10:20.29 | lindi- | Pupeno: you need to specify it in command line or configuration file or load them all to agent |
| 10:20.44 | Pupeno | Ouch. |
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| 10:24.57 | cristi8 | can i see what model of wireless card do i have? i searched /var/log/* and couldn't find "wlan" or "wireless" in any logs |
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| 10:25.15 | Pupeno | cristi8: tried dmesg? |
| 10:25.36 | themill | !what's my wireless |
| 10:25.36 | dpkg | Install the hwinfo package and execute "/usr/sbin/hwinfo --wlan", or http://linux-wless.passys.nl/ , or ask me about <whats my hardware>. See also <wireless>. |
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| 10:25.57 | hangre | ÐÒÉ×ÅÔ, ÅÓÔØ ÒÕÓÓËÉÅ? |
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| 10:26.34 | cristi8 | thanks |
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| 10:28.12 | babilen | cristi8: "lspci -nn|grep -i network" will also give information. |
| 10:29.48 | cristi8 | babilen: that command has no output. also, lspci does not show my wireless card. but dpkg's way worked. thanks themill |
| 10:30.32 | babilen | great :) |
| 10:30.49 | babilen | is it an USB device? |
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| 10:31.10 | cristi8 | no, it's embedded on the mboard |
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| 10:32.50 | cristi8 | but i also think it's on usb :D USB 00.0: 0282 WLAN controller |
| 10:33.31 | babilen | hehe - check output of "lsusb -v" (or without -v) |
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| 10:33.55 | babilen | If you need help setting it up, paste that output |
| 10:34.00 | babilen | is :-Q |
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| 10:36.07 | cristi8 | babilen: haha, yes, it's there.. help setting it up would be great... http://codepad.org/YY5ftuAS |
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| 10:38.02 | babilen | cristi8: Let's have a look |
| 10:38.09 | babilen | !rtl8187 |
| 10:38.09 | dpkg | [rtl-wifi] the Realtek Linux 802.11b/g WLAN drivers. Supports the RTL8180, RTL8185, RTL8187 and RTL8187B chipsets. RTL8187 support included in mainline from 2.6.23, RTL8180 and RTL8185 from 2.6.25, some RTL8187B from 2.6.27. Drivers do not require firmware from userspace. RTL8187SE not supported, ask me about <rtl8187se>. For support of 802.11n devices, ask me about <rtl8192e>, <rtl8192su>, <rtl8192se>. http://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x |
| 10:40.02 | cristi8 | hmm, i am using lenny. using the kernel from backports should support it? |
| 10:40.46 | babilen | cristi8: Install wireless-tools, modprobe -r rtl8187 && modprobe rtl8187, paste output of "dmesg | tail -n 23" and "iwconfig" |
| 10:44.21 | cristi8 | http://codepad.org/AP79COt3 |
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| 10:45.50 | babilen | cristi8: Looks as if it's working - How do you want to configure you WiFi? For an overview of your options see http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
| 10:48.42 | cristi8 | i have some home-created scripts for keeping my pppoe connection up and updating dns.. i would like to integrate the wlan0, so i can connect from my laptop to this PC's wireless and go online through ppp0.. (snat all connected clients). i think ad-hoc with WPA encryption would do.. |
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| 10:50.59 | babilen | cristi8: Ok, to get this straight: The box you've provided the output of is a desktop computer which connects to your ISP using pppoe and you want to use that box as a wireless access point for other computers? (not sure if i understood that correctly) |
| 10:51.13 | cristi8 | babilen: yes |
| 10:51.18 | Rossonero | !ubuntu |
| 10:51.18 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 10:52.09 | cristi8 | babilen: setting the connection as low-level as possible would be great.. |
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| 10:52.34 | Rossonero | ubuntu seems to have the biggest community and their channel is less helpful.. what a controversy :S |
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| 10:54.57 | hideo | cristi8: hostapd and iptables should do what you want |
| 10:54.59 | yo_rmn | Ubuntu ppl never answers |
| 10:55.21 | Psi-Jack | yo_rmn: Sounds like your problem, not #debian's. |
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| 10:55.36 | hideo | cristi8: as for the specifics, you'll have to rtfm |
| 10:55.46 | yo_rmn | ? |
| 10:55.52 | cristi8 | after i set up wlan0 with iwconfig, ifconfig wlan0 up shows: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not supported |
| 10:56.07 | versuchsanstalt | hi all. while the first coffee is helping me wake up, somebody please help me to find out the following: how can i find out if per directory .htaccess are considered by my running apache2? |
| 10:56.10 | yo_rmn | flash, not Debian or ubuntu's |
| 10:56.36 | yo_rmn | I reis chrome too, nothing good |
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| 10:56.43 | yo_rmn | tried* |
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| 10:57.20 | d_b | hi |
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| 10:58.08 | hideo | cristi8: tried unload + reload the wireless module yet? |
| 10:58.17 | babilen | hideo: did that already |
| 10:58.17 | d_b | anyone? what shoukd i read in order to make some applications work as a system service? |
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| 10:59.12 | hideo | cristi8: hmm, muck about with /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
| 10:59.17 | babilen | d_b: What do you mean? Which application are you talking about? How would that application behave if it would be a "system service" ? |
| 10:59.17 | cristi8 | in the link dpkg said, when u searched for my wireless card, it said lenny users should use backported kernel.. |
| 10:59.48 | babilen | cristi8: That is for rtl8187B cards |
| 11:00.07 | d_b | babilen: i must be giving a wrong defenition name, .. i just want to start my ftpd automatically when the system is restarting ... |
| 11:00.26 | hideo | wait, what kernel do you have, cristi8 |
| 11:00.39 | cristi8 | hideo: 2.6.26-2-686 |
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| 11:01.24 | babilen | d_b: Make sure it is started in the appropriate runlevels - run rcconf as root .. Which ftpd do you use? Does it not provide an init script? |
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| 11:02.16 | babilen | d_b: And the term you've used is correct. I was just wondering what, for example, mplayer would do if it is started as a "system service" |
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| 11:03.04 | hideo | cristi8: tried looking in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules yet? |
| 11:03.09 | d_b | pureftpd. Ahh ok ;) i got to to read about rc. thank you |
| 11:03.15 | hideo | cristi8: it's just a hunch |
| 11:03.17 | cristi8 | hideo: http://codepad.org/SfsG9R3E |
| 11:03.33 | babilen | !tell d_b -about runlevel |
| 11:03.49 | d_b | coool ;) |
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| 11:04.43 | hideo | cristi8: backup that file, unload module, then remove line 15+16, and then reload module |
| 11:05.18 | vultaire | question: troubleshooting a wlan connection on debian lenny. Any way to see whether it's connecting as b/g/n? |
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| 11:06.04 | babilen | dpkg: wb |
| 11:06.04 | dpkg | thanks, babilen. It's good to be back. |
| 11:06.22 | vultaire | my card supports 802.11, and I think it worked fine on deb testing/ubuntu karmic, but on lenny it's painfully slow |
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| 11:06.34 | vultaire | erm, 802.11n |
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| 11:07.28 | hideo | cristi8: was anything else trying to set wlan* when it gave you that error? |
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| 11:09.35 | cristi8 | hideo: unloaded the rtl8187 module, removed lines 15,16, reloaded the module, and those lines apeared back. still "operation not supported" . the last question i don't understand.. can u rephrase it? |
| 11:10.13 | hideo | yeah, is there anything else that is trying to configure the devices? |
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| 11:11.03 | hideo | cristi8: network manager, wicd, etc... |
| 11:11.04 | cristi8 | hideo: no.. no network managers, just iwconfig-ed wlan0's essid and mode ad-hoc, and tried "ifconfig wlan0 up" |
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| 11:11.56 | hideo | cristi8: hardware switch? |
| 11:12.05 | linduxed | is there an easy way of suspending a user? |
| 11:12.17 | NotInternat | passwd -l username |
| 11:12.20 | linduxed | just so he cant ssh or login for a time? |
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| 11:12.29 | NotInternat | locks the account |
| 11:12.32 | linduxed | NotInternat: ok, ill try that |
| 11:12.41 | linduxed | NotInternat: how do i restore it? |
| 11:12.50 | NotInternat | passwd -u username |
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| 11:13.11 | cristi8 | hideo: hmm.. no hardware switch, but i'll reboot and check bios settings, maybe "someone" disabled it or smth :P |
| 11:13.15 | mazzachre | I am running a debian lenny server with dotdeb apache, php and mysql on it... And I installed phpmyadmin, but when I look at the page it says "Your PHP MySQL library version 5.0.51a differs from your MySQL server version 5.1.44. This may cause unpredictable behavior." How can that be? |
| 11:13.16 | cristi8 | brb |
| 11:13.33 | linduxed | NotInternat: The user may still be able to login using another authentication token (e.g. an SSH key) |
| 11:13.41 | linduxed | NotInternat: from man passwd |
| 11:13.47 | NotInternat | mmm |
| 11:13.51 | NotInternat | interesint |
| 11:13.54 | NotInternat | interesting* |
| 11:14.27 | streuner_ | !dotdeb |
| 11:14.27 | dpkg | well, dotdeb is for the latest PHP and MySQL releases, packaged up and backported for your pleasure, go to http://dotdeb.org/, but realize that we cannot support dotdeb packages here, so you will be ON YOUR OWN. There is little reason to use dotdeb.org now that backported versions of PHP and MySQL are available from backports.org. Ask me about <backports> and <backports.org>. "aptitude purge ~Vdotdeb" |
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| 11:15.59 | mazzachre | Hmmm... ok, new versions on backports all fine? So I can remove my dotdeb packages and install those instead? (I need MySQL 5.1) |
| 11:16.10 | NotInternat | i did not know that.. thats something imma have to think about |
| 11:16.13 | babilen | mazzachre: yes |
| 11:17.21 | babilen | NotInternat: read "man chage" |
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| 11:18.47 | babilen | NotInternat: Especially "-l" |
| 11:18.57 | NotInternat | actually |
| 11:18.57 | Psi-Jack | Hmmm.. Interesting. |
| 11:19.09 | NotInternat | ssh will follow pam rules if UsePAM=yes |
| 11:19.18 | Psi-Jack | Does dotdeb by chance seperate PHP 5.2 and 5.3 so you can use either one? |
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| 11:20.18 | mazzachre | So... (newbie here... not used to sysadmin stuff) I should do "aptitude purge -Vdotdeb" to get rid of the detdeb packages and then remove the source line and add the backports sourceline and apt-get install those packages that I need (mysql5.1, apache2, php5.2 and phpmyadmin etc...)? |
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| 11:20.26 | babilen | NotInternat: ENICK - Sorry |
| 11:20.40 | mazzachre | Just before I accidentally kill our servers it would be nice confirm this :D |
| 11:20.57 | cristi8 | hideo: bios settings are ok, rebooted and have the same problem: "operation not supported" |
| 11:21.08 | babilen | linduxed: Check "man chage" and read the "-l" option description |
| 11:21.27 | krion | XENBUS: Device with no driver: device/vbd/2049 |
| 11:21.31 | krion | damn. |
| 11:21.56 | hideo | cristi8: google shows lots of people having the same problem with your particular card, however it seems they had older kernel version. I'm not quite sure what's going on here |
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| 11:22.56 | hideo | cristi8: apparently ndiswrapper is an ok workaround, you just can't set it to master mode |
| 11:23.21 | robbles_ | My server rebooted a few hours ago, but I don't see any reason for it in the logs. No one was logged in at the time. Where can I look for an explanation? |
| 11:24.39 | cristi8 | hideo: i set iwconfig mode managed, and ifconfig was succesfull ... hmm... |
| 11:25.09 | cristi8 | hideo: no ad-hoc support maybe? |
| 11:25.43 | hideo | cristi8: maybe, like I said, from google it seems ndiswrapper would work with adhoc mode |
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| 11:27.27 | hacker_kid | i know how to create a local mirror of a repo using apt-mirror but would it be possible to create some sort of a local cache, so instead of downloading the entire repo it cached packages i installed for install on other machines on the lan? |
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| 11:28.15 | Internat | stupid router |
| 11:28.18 | babilen | hacker_kid: Sure - have a look at apt-cacher, apt-cacher-ng, apt-proxy and approx |
| 11:28.20 | Internat | was an answer found out for that? |
| 11:28.26 | cristi8 | hideo and babilen: thanks, i'll see what i can do next |
| 11:28.31 | Internat | disabling users, and ssh keys etc |
| 11:28.48 | babilen | Internat: check "man chage" --> -l option |
| 11:29.06 | hacker_kid | babilen, sweet, with 30 machines i dont want to waste debian's bandwidth or mine |
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| 11:30.21 | Mowee | Hi :3 |
| 11:30.26 | babilen | Internat: Or "usermod --expiredate SOME-DATE-IN-THE-PAST" |
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| 11:31.21 | babilen | hacker_kid: Have fun - we've been running approx without problems |
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| 11:33.54 | stian79 | what has hapened with the intel 4965 driver? I'm running Squeeze. broken packages? |
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| 11:34.02 | hideo | cristi8: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers |
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| 11:34.10 | Anthoo | bonjour |
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| 11:35.21 | babilen | stian79: Firmware installed? |
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| 11:36.33 | luiX_ | does anyone know if it's needed any special config for a repo to support multiple versions of the same package? :: this is, I've build three different deb packages which are three different versions of the same app, and want to make the thee of them available in my repo. The problem is that I've put the three debs in the repo, I've regenerated the Packages.gz file, but a 'apt-cache showpkg <package_name>' is showing only the last version... any ideas? |
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| 11:37.11 | babilen | !tell stian79 -about iwlagn |
| 11:37.21 | babilen | !tell stian79 -about iwlagn firmware |
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| 11:38.11 | stian79 | babilen. I had it installed, but purged it since it did not work. was thinking to reinstall, but can not find it anymore in the repo |
| 11:39.13 | babilen | ,versions firmware-iwlwifi |
| 11:39.14 | judd | firmware-iwlwifi -- etch/non-free: 0.4+etchnhalf.1; etch-backports/non-free: 0.13~bpo40+1; lenny/non-free: 0.14+lenny2; lenny-backports/non-free: 0.17~bpo50+1; sid/non-free: 0.23; squeeze/non-free: 0.23 |
| 11:39.27 | babilen | stian79: non-free enabled? |
| 11:39.38 | stian79 | yes |
| 11:39.53 | krion | is mkinitrd deprecated ? |
| 11:39.59 | babilen | stian79: Paste "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy firmware-iwlwifi" to a pastebin please |
| 11:40.29 | babilen | krion: Yep -> mkinitramfs |
| 11:40.54 | babilen | !tell krion -about initramfs |
| 11:41.03 | stian79 | babilen: I will do once I have finished my apt-get update. just turned on sid to see if I can find it there |
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| 11:42.07 | babilen | stian79: The package is in squeeze, no need for sid |
| 11:42.19 | mazzachre | So, can anyone help me? I want to remove dotdeb packages and install backport packages instead... I need the same packages, and I don't want configuration that works to die and especially I don't want database data to disapear... |
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| 11:45.11 | stian79 | babilen: It was in squeeze when I installed it last week, but now I can not find it. are you shure? |
| 11:45.24 | babilen | mazzachre: Sorry, no idea what dotdeb packages do in their postrm scripts - I would backup data+config, remove said packages and install the ones from backports |
| 11:45.52 | babilen | stian79: Please provide the output of the commands - I don't want to guess :) |
| 11:48.34 | stian79 | babilen: look like the apt-get update is slow. 4 more minutes it say. sorry about that. |
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| 11:49.41 | luiX_ | does anyone know if it's needed any special config for a repo to support multiple versions of the same package? :: this is, I've build three different deb packages which are three different versions of the same app, and want to make the thee of them available in my repo. The problem is that I've put the three debs in the repo, I've regenerated the Packages.gz file, but a 'apt-cache showpkg <package_name>' is showing only the last version... any ideas? |
| 11:49.45 | stian79 | babilen: is there some way I can abort it? it's running in a widget in kde4 |
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| 11:51.44 | babilen | stian79: no idea - but "apt-get update" shouldn't take that long :-\ |
| 11:51.52 | babilen | stian79: but take your time |
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| 11:53.56 | bbd | luiX_: might be wrong but I think one repo might have one version of same pkg |
| 11:54.00 | babilen | stian79: You are sure that you are not upGRADING to sid now? |
| 11:54.26 | babilen | luiX_: I guess you need one repo per version (like stable,testing,unstable,...) |
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| 11:58.46 | t_pan | im trying to set up a mailserver for the first time on lenny... but im a little confused about the domain name for my server. |
| 11:58.48 | mazzachre | How can I find out what packages I would remove when removing dotdeb? |
| 11:59.15 | t_pan | when i set up the machine, i just picked an arbitrary domain. |
| 11:59.50 | mazzachre | t_pan, you need to register one... |
| 11:59.52 | t_pan | now i need three FQDN to point to this box... there are no other physical addresses on this network... just this one box. |
| 12:00.28 | t_pan | mazzachre, i have three... currently the webpaging is going smoothly via virtual hosting by apache. |
| 12:00.32 | mazzachre | t_pan, You can buy hosted DNS to point to your mailserver for your domain.. |
| 12:00.37 | t_pan | mazzachre, but im missing something about the mailserver |
| 12:00.57 | mazzachre | t_pan, Have you setup mx record in domain? |
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| 12:02.04 | t_pan | mazzachre, there could be a possiblity that its ONLY sending webpage requests and not email? |
| 12:02.32 | t_pan | that would explain why it does not even reach my mail daemon. :( |
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| 12:03.18 | luiX_ | babilen, hmmm... i don't know, in the subversion-tools package there are in differents repos (one in backports and one in main) but i'm not sure |
| 12:03.23 | mazzachre | t_pan, mail for a domain is sent via MX record... |
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| 12:03.46 | luiX_ | i would to keep some versions of my app and... can be many |
| 12:03.47 | luiX_ | xD |
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| 12:08.25 | t_pan | tch.... email smpt etc do not point to my IP... |
| 12:08.42 | t_pan | this may result in a *facedesk* |
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| 12:11.04 | stian79 | babilen: quite sure I'm not upgrading/downgrading to sid. Had some errors and found out I had some typing errors in the sources.list so corrected them and did a apt-get update again |
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| 12:20.14 | stian79 | I got firmware-iwlwifi installed again, but it's it seams to fail. |
| 12:20.58 | stian79 | debian:~# ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 12:20.58 | stian79 | SIOCSIFFLAGS: Unknown error 132 |
| 12:20.58 | stian79 | debian:~# |
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| 12:25.18 | adimit | If I want to backport a sid package to lenny (just for myself for now,) what's the easiest way to do that? Is there (official) documentation on the process? |
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| 12:27.38 | ethanol | ok, so I can print a pdf doing 'pdf2ps file.pdf - | lp -s', but now I want to use convert to merge several pdf files, I can do this with 'convert file1.pdf file2.pdf target.pdf' which merges 1 and 2 into target (target can be replaced with '-' also) |
| 12:27.53 | ethanol | how could I pipe convert into pdf2ps and then into lp though? |
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| 12:28.07 | ethanol | cause I am not sure how convert would function as an arg for pdf2ps |
| 12:29.33 | adimit | adb: thank you, I'm going to try that. |
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| 12:30.00 | adb | adimit, yw |
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| 12:37.36 | ethanol | anyone? |
| 12:37.45 | ethanol | or is my question better asked elsewhere? |
| 12:37.45 | Vmanz | looks around |
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| 12:38.02 | ethanol | maybe #linux general chat would be more suited |
| 12:38.04 | ethanol | tries |
| 12:39.46 | \amethyst | ethanol: convert file1.pdf file2.pdf - | pdf2ps - - | lp -s |
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| 12:40.14 | adimit | One more question: given a dom0 with several guests, all running debian, is apt-proxy still the best way to percolate package updates to the guest systems? |
| 12:40.52 | ethanol | \amethyst: will give it a shot, thanks |
| 12:41.11 | zxd_ | kok |
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| 12:41.28 | gui_ | hi |
| 12:41.34 | zxd_ | segfault |
| 12:42.08 | gui_ | I just upgrade from etch to lenny, I have one server who lost apt configuration somewhere ... I have the following message : http://pastebin.com/GDgQeNiM |
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| 12:43.51 | babilen_away | !tell gui_ -about localized errors |
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| 12:46.31 | babilen_away | adimit: We've had good experience with approx - But i can't really comment on the merits of the different proxies. |
| 12:47.21 | adimit | babilen_away, Thanks, I'll try it out. apt-proxy's homepage is just so appalling, I'd rather use something that has a neater homepage... :-P |
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| 12:47.33 | gui_ | I'm lost :) |
| 12:47.44 | Stereo | gui_: can you show us your sources.list please? |
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| 12:48.07 | zxd_ | ...../ |
| 12:48.10 | gui_ | Stereo, http://pastebin.com/S4UTq2Sp |
| 12:48.15 | babilen | adimit: Also check apt-cacher / apt-cacher-ng |
| 12:48.24 | adimit | m |
| 12:48.33 | adimit | babilen: thanks, I will. |
| 12:48.39 | adimit | (stupid enter) |
| 12:48.49 | Stereo | gui_: anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ? |
| 12:49.04 | gui_ | no |
| 12:49.06 | gui_ | it's empty |
| 12:49.41 | Titan8990 | gui_: you should have the security repositories |
| 12:49.48 | babilen | gui_: Please paste output in English next time - See the PM from dpkg. You should also setup the security repos |
| 12:49.55 | gui_ | babilen, ok |
| 12:50.26 | Stereo | and volatile |
| 12:50.44 | Stereo | insert these lines |
| 12:50.46 | Stereo | deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free |
| 12:50.52 | Stereo | deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free |
| 12:51.10 | d_b | anyone? when i do /etc/init.d/pureftpd start , pure ftp is inizialed with many options which where not defined by me, any idea where i can define my own options? |
| 12:51.25 | Stereo | but I'm not sure why it's complaining about apt-build repositories |
| 12:51.48 | babilen | gui_: and run "LANG=C aptitude update" |
| 12:51.49 | Stereo | gui_: do you even use apt-build? |
| 12:51.51 | Titan8990 | d_b: check out /usr/share/doc/pureftp*/* |
| 12:51.59 | gui_ | Stereo, no |
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| 12:52.18 | Stereo | then try aptitude purge apt-build |
| 12:52.21 | gui_ | babilen, when apt will be repaired |
| 12:52.41 | nietdanNL | Stereo thanks, I'm reading with you. Just got my whole vps setup with vsftpd, nginx, php, mysql etc. But I didn't added security repositories. Is it needed to at them, or just for gui_ only? |
| 12:52.41 | Stereo | and try this : grep -ri build /etc/apt |
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| 12:53.03 | babilen | gui_: Is it broken? Must have missed that :-\ |
| 12:53.09 | Stereo | nietdanNL: yeah, you need them too |
| 12:53.11 | d_b | ok Titan8990 ;) will look . Thanks |
| 12:53.38 | Titan8990 | nietdanNL: everyone should have the security repos |
| 12:53.43 | nietdanNL | Stereo, I thought it would be added standard. |
| 12:53.47 | Stereo | nietdanNL: in fact, you should do this right away, there's a php update |
| 12:53.51 | maxtsepkov | What is disadvantages of hardlinking directories? i feel that people don't wnat do that. Why? |
| 12:53.54 | Stereo | nietdanNL: they are |
| 12:54.06 | nietdanNL | ohh |
| 12:54.11 | Stereo | maxtsepkov: some file systems don't support it, but I like it |
| 12:54.17 | nietdanNL | if it's default with debian then I've them Stereo |
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| 12:54.29 | nietdanNL | i will just apt-get update apt-get upgrade then |
| 12:54.31 | Stereo | nietdanNL: try grep security /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 12:54.37 | Stereo | yeah |
| 12:54.40 | Titan8990 | nietdanNL: use aptitude |
| 12:54.42 | maxtsepkov | Stereo: does reiserfs support it ? |
| 12:54.43 | Stereo | you can use aptitude now too |
| 12:54.48 | Stereo | maxtsepkov: you'd have to try |
| 12:54.56 | Stereo | dpkg: tell nietdanNL about why aptitude |
| 12:54.58 | gui_ | Stereo, it's always the same ... |
| 12:55.09 | maxtsepkov | Stereo: I'm on ext3 :D |
| 12:55.22 | Stereo | gui_: and no output from grep? |
| 12:55.25 | gui_ | Stereo, http://pastebin.com/vh4fxqmE |
| 12:55.43 | nietdanNL | Stereo aptitude never works for me |
| 12:55.51 | gui_ | Stereo, grep -ri build /etc/apt < return no results |
| 12:55.58 | Stereo | gui_: ca a l'air bon, non? |
| 12:56.04 | babilen | gui_: What does "Fait" mean? Please paste English output :) |
| 12:56.04 | Stereo | gui_: try aptitude full-upgrade |
| 12:56.07 | gui_ | ok |
| 12:56.13 | Stereo | babilen: fait = done |
| 12:56.17 | nietdanNL | st3ffen, btw sources list gives deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-security lenny/updates main contrib non-free |
| 12:56.20 | nietdanNL | :) |
| 12:56.23 | babilen | gui_: It's fine then ... |
| 12:56.29 | gui_ | Stereo, no... :-( |
| 12:56.31 | babilen | nietdanNL: great :) |
| 12:56.32 | hagedorn | hi, where can i find a netinstall mirror for debian etch installation ? |
| 12:56.47 | babilen | hagedorn: are you sure that you want to install etch? |
| 12:56.54 | nietdanNL | Stereo, so that is why I don't use apitude |
| 12:57.02 | gui_ | there is an other problem |
| 12:57.05 | hagedorn | babilen, yes :( |
| 12:57.07 | Stereo | nietdanNL: maybe we can debug your aptitude while we're at it |
| 12:57.13 | gui_ | I can't install what I need |
| 12:57.18 | gui_ | apt is already broken |
| 12:57.29 | Stereo | gui_: any error messages ? |
| 12:57.31 | nietdanNL | aptitude: command not found |
| 12:57.36 | Stereo | ooh |
| 12:57.42 | Stereo | apt-get install aptitude |
| 12:57.42 | gui_ | only the message I paste |
| 12:57.46 | Stereo | that one was easy |
| 12:58.01 | Stereo | gui_: I don't see how the message you pasted shows an error |
| 12:58.10 | gui_ | http://pastebin.com/vh4fxqmE |
| 12:58.11 | \amethyst | gui_: he means, do you get any error messages when you try to install what you need? |
| 12:58.13 | gui_ | Ign ... |
| 12:58.14 | nietdanNL | Stereo I thought aptitude was default |
| 12:58.31 | Stereo | nietdanNL: thought so too |
| 12:58.31 | gui_ | it can't find repository |
| 12:58.32 | \amethyst | gui_: That command isn't *supposed* to install packages |
| 12:58.46 | Stereo | gui_: that looks perfect |
| 12:58.52 | gui_ | apt-cache search 2.6.26|grep amd64|grep xen < returns nothing |
| 12:58.53 | \amethyst | gui_: because there are no French translations in lenny/updates |
| 12:58.54 | babilen | nietdanNL: It is and it *should* be installed |
| 12:59.09 | gui_ | I have an other server with exactly the same config in /etc/apt/* and it returns what I need |
| 12:59.17 | gui_ | I guess there is something broken elswhere |
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| 12:59.36 | \amethyst | gui_: what package are you looking for? |
| 12:59.37 | Stereo | gui_: it's probably installed as 32 bit |
| 12:59.50 | Stereo | gui_: by the way, you can use aptitude search |
| 12:59.58 | Stereo | gui_: what does uname -a say ? |
| 13:00.04 | gui_ | linux-image-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 |
| 13:00.06 | gui_ | for example |
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| 13:00.28 | gui_ | # uname -a |
| 13:00.29 | gui_ | Linux temp 2.6.18-5-xen-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Dec 18 23:16:23 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 13:00.49 | \amethyst | gui_: what dpkg architecture is this machine? |
| 13:00.51 | gui_ | perhaps apt is working for x86 it can be a solution |
| 13:01.01 | \amethyst | gui_: the one where you can't find the xen-amd64 kernel |
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| 13:01.29 | \amethyst | gui_: dpkg --print-architecture |
| 13:01.44 | nietdanNL | Btw, Stereo I don't see any php update |
| 13:01.53 | gui_ | i386 |
| 13:01.55 | gui_ | that's it |
| 13:01.55 | babilen | ,info xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 |
| 13:01.57 | judd | No record of package 'xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64' in lenny/i386. |
| 13:01.59 | gui_ | :-( |
| 13:02.02 | gui_ | omg |
| 13:02.02 | \amethyst | gui_: that's the problem |
| 13:02.07 | \amethyst | gui_: that package is for amd64 only |
| 13:02.09 | Titan8990 | nietdanNL: the php update was last week. if you have updated since then, you are good |
| 13:02.09 | nietdanNL | but well, I installed it about 19 hours ago. So maybe it was already included |
| 13:02.16 | Stereo | nietdanNL: you've got the security repository, you installed aptitude, you ran aptitude update, then aptitude full-upgrade ? |
| 13:02.28 | nietdanNL | Titan8990, I just installed it yesterday. |
| 13:02.34 | Stereo | yeah, it fetched the latest packages then |
| 13:02.37 | Stereo | you're safe :) |
| 13:02.38 | Titan8990 | Stereo: he would have installed the patched version in the first place, with no need to upgrade |
| 13:02.40 | nietdanNL | nods |
| 13:02.45 | Stereo | Titan8990: exactly |
| 13:02.48 | gui_ | I don't understand why I have two domU |
| 13:02.55 | gui_ | one amd64 and the second one i386 |
| 13:02.58 | gui_ | :-( |
| 13:03.13 | Stereo | gui_: it's a common mistake |
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| 13:03.24 | Stereo | don't worry, my coworkers do it all the time :) |
| 13:03.27 | gui_ | and dom0 is amd64 |
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| 13:03.49 | Stereo | the installer should really nag about installing i386 on a 64 bit processor |
| 13:04.04 | gui_ | Mar 24 14:03:51 temp modprobe: FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.18-5-xen-amd64/modules.dep: No such file or directory |
| 13:04.05 | gui_ | :) |
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| 13:04.29 | Titan8990 | not everyone wants or needs amd64 arch OS... |
| 13:04.31 | cusco | hi |
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| 13:05.00 | cusco | I am using a intel graphics onboard with i915 driver. glxinfo returns http://paste.debian.net/65721/ |
| 13:05.03 | cusco | what is wrong? |
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| 13:05.11 | Stereo | Titan8990: most people do, but install i386 because it doesn't say amd on the processor |
| 13:05.56 | Titan8990 | Stereo: well, I am someone who knows the difference and still installs i386 on everything, aside from some high-mem servers |
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| 13:06.06 | cusco | Titan8990: why? |
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| 13:06.27 | Stereo | proprietary drivers in binary blobs? |
| 13:06.47 | Titan8990 | cusco: I have no real need for amd64. ^ binary blobs are an issue. For the longest time java was alsa an issue |
| 13:06.48 | gui_ | Stereo, thanks to help |
| 13:06.56 | Titan8990 | s/alsa/also |
| 13:07.01 | cusco | java is no longer a issue |
| 13:07.11 | cusco | you can use 32bit libs for binary stuf |
| 13:07.15 | cusco | stuff |
| 13:07.43 | Titan8990 | I just don't see any point in messing with it if I have nothing to gain |
| 13:08.18 | cusco | well obviously the binary stuff will have no advantage, but everything else in the OS will... |
| 13:08.21 | cusco | I guess.... |
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| 13:08.47 | cusco | but that is just my opinion |
| 13:08.57 | cusco | oi luminoso |
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| 13:09.06 | luminoso | hi |
| 13:09.09 | luminoso | :-) |
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| 13:13.05 | Stereo | Titan8990: you have stuff to gain, and there's no real mess |
| 13:13.13 | Stereo | it's not just interesting for ram |
| 13:14.52 | Stereo | see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit#Pros_and_cons for example |
| 13:14.57 | Titan8990 | my boxes perform just fine using i386. If it were proven to me I could cut a few min off large compiles or something that I do that requries a lot of power, I would switch. |
| 13:15.06 | abrotman | Stereo: 3rd party binary-only applications |
| 13:15.10 | abrotman | some work .. some do not |
| 13:15.26 | Titan8990 | Mostly of what I have seen as far as applications utilizing 64bit addressing have been server applications |
| 13:15.34 | Stereo | abrotman: yeah, that's one reason why I keep i386 around. A stupid scanner driver. |
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| 13:18.02 | abrotman | Stereo: that must be a seriously crappy scanner .. or a really expensive one |
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| 13:18.23 | Stereo | hahaha |
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| 13:18.58 | Stereo | it is. Both. |
| 13:19.30 | Stereo | the customer's upgrading soonish though |
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| 13:21.59 | developer | how do I paste without been kicked? |
| 13:22.19 | Titan8990 | !paste |
| 13:22.19 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>. |
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| 13:24.44 | developer | BASEDIR=`dirname $0` cd $BASEDIR CLASSPATH=$BASEDIR CLASSPATH=$CLASSPATH:$BASEDIR/lib/ken-core.jar This is a line in a sh file that Im using. wonder what the first BASEDIR=`dirname $0` mean? |
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| 13:25.30 | bbd | developer: filename of script is $0 |
| 13:25.58 | daltio | gusy any one use mondo for OS and date recovery? |
| 13:26.02 | daltio | in debian |
| 13:26.02 | bbd | developer: sorry filename with full path |
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| 13:27.30 | developer | ok because this script stoped to work when I placed it in the /usr/local/bin |
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| 13:29.43 | Stereo | developer: you can change the script by forcing CLASSPATH to be /where/your/script/was/before |
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| 13:30.06 | Stereo | that way it'll find /where/your/script/was/before/lib/ken-core.jar |
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| 13:31.15 | developer | yes but forcing classpath isn't something I can master |
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| 13:32.41 | Stereo | developer: replace that line with this |
| 13:32.58 | Stereo | hmm |
| 13:33.03 | developer | ok I got it to work I just changed the first part to BASEDIR=home/kenny/ken/ thanks for yours supply! |
| 13:33.13 | Stereo | ok :) |
| 13:33.41 | Stereo | you could move that stuff to /usr/local/lib/ken if you want to make it in a clean way |
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| 13:35.13 | paul424 | hi, hello suppose I am on lenny and don;'t have the root and need to mount the pendrive, what to do ? |
| 13:35.19 | paul424 | the mount nor pmount does not work |
| 13:36.04 | babilen | paul424: Is your user in the plugdev group? |
| 13:36.24 | babilen | paul424: If no --> ask your system administrator |
| 13:36.48 | paul424 | donno |
| 13:36.58 | paul424 | babilen: how to check ? |
| 13:37.00 | babilen | paul424: check the output of "groups" |
| 13:37.25 | paul424 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:37.41 | babilen | paul424: the command is "groups" not "groups plugdev" |
| 13:37.59 | paul424 | oki oki seems that I am in the plugdev, what now ? |
| 13:38.51 | babilen | paul424: Can you mount it through nautilus? |
| 13:39.09 | linduxed | i get tons of the following, how do i best deal with it? |
| 13:39.11 | linduxed | Mar 21 08:50:44 freke sshd[6668]: Invalid user kiosk from 208.78.98.176 |
| 13:39.28 | jelly | !tell linduxed about fail2ban |
| 13:39.28 | linduxed | that's from /var/log/auth.log |
| 13:40.36 | babilen | paul424: I'll be back later - good luck :) |
| 13:40.50 | paul424 | :( |
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| 13:41.25 | paul424 | nautilius nor konqueror plugs the pendrive |
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| 13:41.46 | paul424 | "this property is only avalaible from HAL" :P |
| 13:41.56 | paul424 | open the pendrive HAL |
| 13:42.13 | paul424 | open the pendrive HAL |
| 13:43.34 | paul424 | HAL : excuse me paul424, but I see this conversation came at the point that its no longer relaible to continue it." |
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| 13:50.21 | linduxed | jelly: thx |
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| 13:52.06 | iskywalker | hi! |
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| 13:52.49 | iskywalker | I am trying to record with arecord, or sound recorder, but i get a too high noise, but skype can do it very well (about 1 sec it is awful but then it gets better) |
| 13:52.59 | iskywalker | anyone a hint what i can do about it? |
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| 13:57.27 | TomyLobo | iskywalker telephony software usually employs filters |
| 13:57.43 | TomyLobo | in other words: use filters or get a better mic |
| 13:57.49 | iskywalker | ok, is there any lecture program for it? |
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| 13:57.58 | iskywalker | well the mic is really good, for skype |
| 13:58.34 | WormFood | is the -r switch on mp3info broken in squeeze? |
| 13:58.49 | TomyLobo | iskywalker do you run skype on linux? |
| 13:58.59 | iskywalker | the mic is a laptop, the laptop is lenovo, so it is not that bad quality |
| 13:59.04 | iskywalker | yes I do |
| 13:59.24 | TomyLobo | built-in laptops are usually bad |
| 13:59.33 | TomyLobo | microphones* |
| 13:59.36 | WormFood | god damn! how the hell do I find the bit rate on an mp3? I've used mp3info in the past, but it does not work in squeeze now |
| 13:59.56 | TomyLobo | WormFood from a script? |
| 13:59.57 | iskywalker | well, like i said, test call in skype was almost perfect, too low, but no noisy |
| 14:00.05 | TomyLobo | or just for a single file? |
| 14:00.06 | WormFood | TomyLobo, command line |
| 14:00.12 | TomyLobo | no idea then |
| 14:00.29 | WormFood | I live where lenovo computers are made....the ibm thinkpad was better before they sold out to lenovo |
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| 14:01.00 | TomyLobo | iskywalker how does that imply that your microphone is good? |
| 14:01.24 | iskywalker | I does imply that even with my microphone you can get something good |
| 14:01.37 | TomyLobo | filters. |
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| 14:02.04 | WormFood | the biggest problems with the laptop microphones is they are too sensitive or not sensitive enough |
| 14:03.00 | amphi | WormFood: file(1) should tell you |
| 14:03.12 | WormFood | I doubt it amphi |
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| 14:03.49 | WormFood | file just tells you what the file type is, by looking at the file structure...it was not designed to give details info, like bitrate on an mp3 |
| 14:04.26 | WormFood | all my MP3s are "GLS_BINARY_MSB_FIRST", according to 'file' |
| 14:04.34 | greedo | is it possible to build a custom debian kernel in ubuntu? |
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| 14:12.25 | nils_ | hey, is there a quick and dirty way to mark a certain package (in this case mysql-common, another packages provides it but didn't seem to store that detail anywhere) as installed so apt doesn't try to install it as a dependency anymore? |
| 14:13.08 | Acony | hi there |
| 14:13.24 | Acony | I want to invoke gnome-screenshot on print sc button? |
| 14:13.25 | Acony | any hints |
| 14:13.27 | babilen | !tell nils_ -about equivs |
| 14:13.27 | Acony | ? |
| 14:14.00 | babilen | nils_: Which package does provide mysql-common, but fails to declare that? |
| 14:14.23 | jelly | WormFood: hm, my /usr/bin/file seems able to figure out a bit more: mp3/sid-remixes/Play by Numbers - Calm.mp3: Audio file with ID3 version 2.2.0, contains: MPEG ADTS, layer III, v1, 192 kbps, 44.1 kHz, Stereo |
| 14:14.25 | nils_ | babilen: percona-xtradb-common |
| 14:14.45 | kryl | I just upgrade a slave and I don't want to upgrade for the moment the master but I have this new problem : http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=24432 is it possible to downgrade to an oldest version with binary ? |
| 14:14.48 | nils_ | babilen: thanks, I'll check out equivs |
| 14:15.17 | edju | Just installed squeeze and tried installing nvidia-glx. It wouldn't install because of an unmet dependency - nvidia-kernel-173.14.09, which seems not to exist. Any advice appreciated. |
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| 14:15.38 | babilen | nils_: That package is not in Debian - Where is it from? |
| 14:15.44 | WormFood | jelly, what branch? I'm on squeeze |
| 14:15.49 | jelly | kryl: which debian release are you using? which versions of mysql-server-* packages? |
| 14:15.56 | jelly | WormFood: squeeze/sid, i386 |
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| 14:16.10 | WormFood | what the hell? mine tells me nothing |
| 14:16.17 | nils_ | babilen: 3rd party repository, repo.percona.com/apt, it's a specialiced MySQL version |
| 14:16.55 | jelly | WormFood: file is 5.04-1. Do you have customized /etc/magic? |
| 14:16.56 | kryl | actually : 5.0.51a-24+lenny2+spu1 |
| 14:17.09 | WormFood | I haven't touched /etc/magic, it is stock |
| 14:17.17 | kryl | and I want to use 5.0.51-3~bpo40+1 |
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| 14:17.27 | babilen | nils_: Their packaging is buggy - you should complain and ask them for support. |
| 14:17.31 | WormFood | 5.04 |
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| 14:17.38 | kryl | not sorry less 5.0.32-7etch6 |
| 14:17.43 | babilen | nils_: Good luck - equivs might do the trick for you though |
| 14:17.56 | nils_ | babilen: yeah |
| 14:18.17 | WormFood | jelly, my /etc/magic file is stock, which means it is nearly empty (just some comments) |
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| 14:18.55 | WormFood | god damn! this is frustrating...all I want to know is the bit rate |
| 14:18.58 | jelly | kryl: that's not going to be easy to do. You could try setting your sources.list back to etch and doing a /msg dpkg partial downgrade |
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| 14:19.44 | WormFood | what the fuck? it tells me that info for some files, but not others |
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| 14:20.38 | jelly | WormFood: mplayer -ao null? :-) |
| 14:21.05 | kryl | omg :) |
| 14:21.20 | kryl | I guess it will be easiest from sources |
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| 14:21.48 | jelly | kryl: I strongly suggest filing a bug on the lenny package. |
| 14:22.07 | WormFood | jelly, yeah, that will tell me...and so will mpg123, but mp3info and file fall flat on their face |
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| 14:23.11 | Macer | hm. looks like i might have a bad drive. |
| 14:23.14 | TomyLobo | how do i tell aptitude to postpone the installation of a particular broken package? |
| 14:23.18 | WormFood | I don't know what these asspirates did to make these mp3 files so fucked up, that standard tools can't get their bit rate, or tell anything about them, but they play fine |
| 14:23.51 | TomyLobo | one which it lists as B in the first column |
| 14:24.26 | WormFood | they are actually VBR, but mpg123/mplayer reports it as being 128k |
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| 14:24.50 | WormFood | does VBR screw mp3info/file? |
| 14:25.14 | TomyLobo | dont remember the other columns. i resolved the problem by cleaning the download cache and redownloading, but want to know, for the next time |
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| 14:25.41 | Acony | anyone.... how to connect print sc with gnome screenshot ? |
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| 14:26.46 | babilen | Acony: gnome-control-center -> keyboard shortcuts -> take a screenshot (click into the field and press the keys) |
| 14:26.54 | WormFood | yeah, it seems VBR just fucks with mp3info/file |
| 14:27.13 | wols_ | Acony: xbindkeys perhaps |
| 14:27.34 | Acony | babilen, I already done that, but that does not invoke gnome-screenshot |
| 14:27.46 | WormFood | even tho mp3info has provisions for reporting the average bit rate of a VBR mp3, but it appears to not work (at least now with my MP3s) |
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| 14:28.16 | babilen | Acony: *shrug* |
| 14:28.30 | Acony | babilen, and shrug is what ? |
| 14:29.06 | babilen | Acony: I have no idea what Gnome tries to do there - use scrot ;) |
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| 14:29.20 | Macer | damn. my hard drive in my artigo just seems to be dying out the blue |
| 14:29.31 | Acony | babilen, ok thanks :D |
| 14:29.43 | Macer | im fscking it now |
| 14:29.48 | Macer | :) |
| 14:29.50 | Acony | wols_, can u give me more hints about xbindkeys |
| 14:29.51 | Acony | ? |
| 14:30.02 | wols_ | http://www.nongnu.org/xbindkeys/xbindkeys.html |
| 14:30.18 | Macer | i hope that it might be some sort of obscure driver thing with the via chipset |
| 14:30.32 | Acony | wols_, ok thanks a lot |
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| 14:30.44 | Macer | otherwise looks like i can just get an ssd for it. |
| 14:30.57 | wols_ | the shittyness of via is never obscure :) |
| 14:31.02 | Macer | heh |
| 14:31.12 | Macer | it is a c7 pico itx board |
| 14:31.33 | Macer | the hard drive is old tho so i can see it being broken |
| 14:31.49 | Macer | i bought the laptop it was in when i was in iraq in 2004 |
| 14:32.05 | Macer | so it has literally been through war ;) |
| 14:32.28 | developer | hahahahaha nice one Macer! |
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| 14:33.54 | Macer | :) well. it is true. i had a pair of glasses that i used there too and told that to the woman i was getting new ones from haha |
| 14:34.21 | Macer | blah. as long as it boots. i just want my bind config off of it |
| 14:34.32 | Macer | i just finished it yesterday |
| 14:34.48 | Macer | then i will get a low end intel ssd |
| 14:35.06 | Macer | the one that doesnt have "extreme" in its name |
| 14:35.10 | Acony | solved it was a kinda compiz problem |
| 14:35.24 | developer | is it possible to edit crontab in gedit? |
| 14:35.34 | Acony | developer, yeap :P |
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| 14:36.28 | developer | would the command be: gedit crontab |
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| 14:37.44 | Titan8990 | developer: EDITOR=gedit; crontab -e |
| 14:37.59 | developer | thanks! |
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| 14:38.35 | Titan8990 | developer: you can also set EDITOR in ~/.bash_profile, but it recommended that you don't permantly set it as a GUI editor |
| 14:39.01 | Titan8990 | developer: it is good to become familar with the text-based editors. Their features are generally superior the GUI ones anyhow |
| 14:39.09 | developer | thanks again, where did you find this info? |
| 14:39.53 | Titan8990 | developer: the man page, but also general linux knowledge |
| 14:40.07 | Titan8990 | developer: typically anything that opens an editor uses the EDITOR variable |
| 14:40.22 | Titan8990 | developer: from the manpage: The -e option is used to edit the current crontab using the editor specified by the VISUAL or EDITOR environment variables. |
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| 14:41.21 | developer | ok Im editing in nano right now |
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| 14:41.44 | Titan8990 | developer: you can also set the EDITOR variable system-wide with update-alternatives --config editor |
| 14:41.47 | developer | which one is more userfriendly nano or vim |
| 14:42.02 | Macer | nano |
| 14:42.05 | Macer | heh |
| 14:42.22 | developer | okej I will hit with that nano then |
| 14:42.23 | Macer | but you lose respect using it |
| 14:42.23 | babilen | developer: depends on your users :) |
| 14:42.27 | Titan8990 | developer: nano is more user friendly but lacks *many* features including syntax highlighting. Personally, I prefer emacs but that is the least-user friendly |
| 14:42.32 | Macer | :) |
| 14:42.40 | Titan8990 | !start an editor war |
| 14:42.40 | dpkg | ae bites |
| 14:42.45 | babilen | ae? |
| 14:43.08 | developer | ms office! |
| 14:43.08 | developer | hehehe |
| 14:43.30 | Macer | i think openoffice is better :-P |
| 14:43.42 | Titan8990 | aee (advanced easy editor) is intended to be an easy to use screen-based editor that requires no instruction to use. |
| 14:43.47 | Titan8990 | suppose it means aee |
| 14:43.55 | Macer | that pastel big ms button thing they did with 2007 was horrible |
| 14:45.11 | yow | hi there, for those who remember my last 2 questions which i posted about 5 hours ago regarding rsync, i just want to report my latest findings, i.e. it's my mistake. the paths were too long and I didsn't realise that I misspelled a word. sorry for the confusion. thanks for your help, anyway. |
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| 14:47.41 | Gnitset | Hi, is it possible to configure apt to use a socks5-proxy? or fetching files using curl (configured for socks5)? |
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| 14:49.15 | daltio | guys i am trying to get my debian machie up |
| 14:49.36 | daltio | i have MBR backup and /boot backup and / backup with me |
| 14:49.44 | daltio | i am doing dd for /boot |
| 14:49.52 | daltio | my boot was 100 MB |
| 14:50.15 | daltio | when i do dd=if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/cciss/c0d0p1 |
| 14:50.34 | daltio | its says input/output error no space left in c0d0p1 |
| 14:50.45 | Math | is there a file somewhere in /etc where I can give a usb vendor+device ID and prevent any modules from loading automatically? (need to use the device inside qem) |
| 14:50.47 | daltio | both /boot was of same size 100MB |
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| 14:50.53 | daltio | what sequesnce should i follow |
| 14:51.03 | daltio | 1 restore /boor then MBR then / |
| 14:51.11 | daltio | or 1 MBR then /boot then / |
| 14:51.14 | daltio | any idea |
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| 14:58.51 | shining^ | when inserting a usb camera, is it udev that is reponsible to create the device nodes ? it doesnt work for some reasons on debian squeeze. what's confusing is that other usb devices (usb key, external drives) work fine |
| 14:59.33 | cahoot | seen as a ptp device? |
| 15:00.44 | shining^ | cahoot: hm I am not sure, how does ptp device show up ? The only thing that happens is something in dmesg, but apparently no device is created, and gnome does not see anything |
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| 15:01.49 | cahoot | 'something in dmesg' - what's that? |
| 15:03.12 | developer | I have edited crontab -e in nano and now I want to save it, I press Ctrl O and it suggests /tmp/crontab/.LBKO3S/crontab is it ok? |
| 15:03.39 | \amethyst | developer: yes, crontab -e works by creating a temporary file and launching the editor on it |
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| 15:04.05 | developer | ok should I pick To Files och Append? |
| 15:04.15 | \amethyst | ? |
| 15:04.23 | jiajia | can anyone give me a car |
| 15:04.28 | Titan8990 | you can actually just do C-x and the y to save |
| 15:04.31 | jiajia | for like 1 euro |
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| 15:04.37 | \amethyst | developer: no, not append |
| 15:04.46 | \amethyst | developer: just overwrite the file |
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| 15:06.36 | developer | I hitted ctrl+x and y and it prompted file name to write /tmp ...../crontab and I can either choose To File, Append, DOS Format ... |
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| 15:07.54 | shining^ | cahoot: http://pastebin.ca/1851520 |
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| 15:09.19 | developer | I just hitted enter and it worked |
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| 15:11.49 | shining^ | cahoot: uhm, I just checked on another box where it works, and the only message I get is the first one : usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 |
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| 15:12.11 | shining^ | I don't get all the rest. but maybe this is just some kernel settings, hmm |
| 15:12.15 | doubleclick | shining^: did you try instaling gnome-volume-manager? i see that it's not instaled by default in squeeze... |
| 15:12.19 | shining^ | and udev events seem to be the same |
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| 15:14.20 | doubleclick | hm.. or is it... xD |
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| 15:15.16 | amimusa | hello, I am trying to set up mail server in my new debian5 box. I have dynamic ip, so I am trying to set gmail as smarthost. I follow this guide: http://blog.jorgeivanmeza.com/2009/07/utilizar-gmail-como-smarthost-desde-linux-debian-5/ but I encountered errors not commented there. the error I get is: http://pastebin.com/cR7qQE9r |
| 15:15.41 | amimusa | i am using exim4 as MTA |
| 15:15.58 | amimusa | anybodu around could help please ? |
| 15:16.02 | amimusa | thanks in advance |
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| 15:16.41 | Vanscot | hi, hi..Running into 2 problems here.. |
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| 15:17.08 | Vanscot | 1st one is that, for some unknown reason, apache is forcing all my php files to download... |
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| 15:17.23 | themill | dpkg: tell Vanscot about php wants me to download still |
| 15:17.26 | Vanscot | But only in my account, stuff installed via apt-get (phpmyadmin) work fine. |
| 15:17.36 | shining^ | doubleclick: I saw that gnome-volume-manager went away yesterday in an upgrade , I wanted to re-add that but I believe gvm acts at a higher level. I don't even have /dev/sdb* . I could run in console mode, I should still get device creation |
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| 15:18.27 | Vanscot | themill: already tried most of those... even reinstalling apache+php... |
| 15:18.48 | Vanscot | Like I said, phpmyadmin works fine... |
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| 15:19.06 | luminoso | did anyone here tried tinyproxy? |
| 15:19.24 | luminoso | i always get "Refused CONNECT method on port" |
| 15:19.30 | Vanscot | But if I try to browse any php file on my userdir (locahost/~vanscot) forces the download. |
| 15:19.37 | pirx | hello! i subscribe to the ubuntu security email list (USN), and 2 weeks ago there was a message about upgrading apache because of some problem with mod_proxy. But i havent seen anything about that in the debian list (DSA). What does that mean? Is there most likely no problem with the debian package, or is the fix not out for debian yet? |
| 15:19.47 | themill | Vanscot: most probably it's your browser lying to you. Have you tried with wget or curl or similar? |
| 15:20.34 | KB1JWQ | Welcome to #debian, Vanscot. Do you have the proper AddType statement in httpd.conf? |
| 15:21.08 | Vanscot | themill: wget downloads the php file unparsed. |
| 15:21.17 | Vanscot | KB1JWQ: checking, but mostly sure it is. |
| 15:21.34 | Titan8990 | KB1JWQ: debian does not use httpd.conf by default... well it does but it starts empty |
| 15:21.50 | Vanscot | I know.. |
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| 15:21.59 | Vanscot | I uses apache2.cong |
| 15:22.01 | Vanscot | *conf |
| 15:22.02 | Titan8990 | KB1JWQ: config file layouts are split, and "general" configurations would be in apache.conf |
| 15:22.20 | KB1JWQ | Welcome to #debian, Vanscot. Not sure of the proper debian terminology for it, but that's required in your httpd configuration. Without an AddType handler, you'll see the behavior you describe. |
| 15:22.38 | Vanscot | SetHandler application/x-httpd-php |
| 15:22.47 | themill | Vanscot: are you using the default apache config layout or did you go and rewrite it all? |
| 15:23.09 | Vanscot | themill: default, did a --purge remove then install |
| 15:23.47 | Titan8990 | Vanscot: that likely will not reinstall config files without confmiss |
| 15:23.59 | themill | Vanscot: on what package though? the config files are in apache2.2-common. |
| 15:24.36 | babilen | pirx: Might be a problem that only exists in Ubuntu. You might want to check if the bug was introduced within the Ubuntu packaging, or if it is a genuine security problem. If the latter: Write to debian-security ML and ask about it |
| 15:24.42 | KB1JWQ | Welcome to #debian, Vanscot. YOu want AddHandler php5-script .php and AddType text/html .php defined in your config. Then bounce Apache. |
| 15:25.02 | Vanscot | apt-get install apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-bin apache2.2-common libapache2-mod-php5 libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 15:25.06 | Vanscot | Plus the php related ones. |
| 15:25.21 | Vanscot | KB1JWQ: trying that now. |
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| 15:26.09 | Titan8990 | KB1JWQ: none of that should be required to add manually. simply installing apache2 and the php5 modules is enough for it to function. Even the module is enabled on installation |
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| 15:26.12 | themill | KB1JWQ: that should already be in the config. |
| 15:26.32 | Vanscot | KB1JWQ: not really working, now instead of forced download I have the source printed. |
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| 15:27.09 | pirx | babilen: they dont say if its their fault:) |
| 15:27.09 | Titan8990 | KB1JWQ: also, we make those configuration changes in /etc/apache2/modules-available and then enable them using the a2enmod command |
| 15:27.33 | Titan8990 | KB1JWQ: excuse me, mods-available |
| 15:27.40 | Vanscot | Tryed the a2enmod php5 and says it's already loaded. |
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| 15:28.26 | Titan8990 | Vanscot: did you reload apache after making configuration changes? |
| 15:28.36 | Vanscot | forced-reload'ed |
| 15:28.50 | Titan8990 | Vanscot: did the standard reload fail? |
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| 15:29.07 | Vanscot | Also, using a simple .htaccess (containing Options +Indexes) raises a error 500... |
| 15:29.14 | Vanscot | Titan8990: nop. |
| 15:29.19 | Inquisition[ESP] | is subkeys.pgp.net working? |
| 15:29.24 | whatt | Hi I finally installed squeeze 64 bit and all my resolution problems are gone. Now I'm experiencing some problems with sound and flash (over the net) |
| 15:29.28 | Vanscot | Just to be sure that it really reloaded all. |
| 15:29.35 | Inquisition[ESP] | i have been trying for few days to connect and get keys |
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| 15:30.22 | developer | is there any video tutorial for debian? I found learnkey wich was for the redhat distro, could I use it instead? |
| 15:30.51 | valdyn | developer: check youtube? |
| 15:31.10 | Titan8990 | developer: well, if you read up there is an example of differences in debian vs redhat |
| 15:31.18 | Titan8990 | developer: redhat configuration can be quite different |
| 15:31.41 | developer | damn |
| 15:31.57 | Vanscot | And, if this problem wasn't quite enough for having fun... |
| 15:32.07 | Vanscot | The 2nd problem I have is with the keyboard layouts. |
| 15:32.08 | valdyn | whatt: flash is a piece of junk that needs a free alsa device or wont work |
| 15:32.09 | Vanscot | <.< |
| 15:32.26 | whatt | yo I know that. So what shall I do now? |
| 15:32.42 | Titan8990 | !reference |
| 15:32.43 | dpkg | The Debian Reference will answer most of your questions about Debian. The latest version (v2) is at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ . Read it after installing Debian and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. You can install this too, the package name is debian-reference: 'aptitude install debian-reference' |
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| 15:33.08 | valdyn | whatt: which part is not obvious? |
| 15:33.28 | Inquisition[ESP] | is subkeys.pgp.net working? i cannot connect to get keys |
| 15:33.52 | developer | I made and cron job and when I hit crontab -l it outputs 5,35 * * * * myshell.sh How can I check if this file runs or not (I made it with root) |
| 15:34.27 | Titan8990 | Inquisition[ESP]: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ |
| 15:34.38 | whatt | valdyn, when I'm booting I can see many text msgs repeating the same things about the xorg server. Could you see my logs to check if there are any errors? |
| 15:34.41 | Vanscot | developer: I think that it should leave a mail... |
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| 15:35.06 | Titan8990 | developer: that comma shouldn't be there |
| 15:35.08 | valdyn | whatt: i thought you just had problems with sound |
| 15:35.18 | Titan8990 | developer: it should be a space instead |
| 15:35.38 | whatt | valdyn, yeah I typed before but my connection is crap so it didn't send |
| 15:36.03 | Vanscot | <.< |
| 15:36.04 | valdyn | whatt: restatate your actual problem(s) then |
| 15:36.09 | Vanscot | So, no help for me? |
| 15:36.11 | Vanscot | :'( |
| 15:36.58 | developer | okej I'll try it out |
| 15:36.59 | whatt | valdyn, many :) Ok when I boot I see the same message repeated many times but I can't read it completely talkin about xorg. Where can I find the exact log of the boot session? |
| 15:37.36 | cristi8 | *: how can i get a /dev/mixer device, required by tvtime to play audio ? |
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| 15:37.45 | Inquisition[ESP] | Titan8990: how can i download keys on shell server? (without root) |
| 15:37.49 | valdyn | whatt: booting shouldnt show messages about X really |
| 15:38.07 | valdyn | whatt: you see many messages - alright, is there there an actual problem too? |
| 15:38.44 | whatt | valdyn, never seen so many times the same message. But if it's not a problem then ok. |
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| 15:39.16 | valdyn | whatt: if that message is from X itself then its in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 15:39.34 | Titan8990 | Inquisition[ESP]: I was just offering a way to check if the website is down without the need to ask random people on the internet |
| 15:39.35 | valdyn | whatt: if its happening after syslog started then its in /var/log/messages anyway |
| 15:39.44 | stian79 | I wish to save some space on my drive and was thinking to remove dolphin or konqueror, but when I try to do so I'm told kde-minimal and kdebase-apps are also going away. Am I doing something wrong here? |
| 15:39.47 | Inquisition[ESP] | Titan8990: ok thx |
| 15:39.54 | valdyn | whatt: and if it happens before that point then you would have to switch on bootlog to catch it |
| 15:40.04 | valdyn | !bootlog |
| 15:40.05 | dpkg | bootlogd is probably disabled by default. Change /etc/default/bootlogd to "Yes" to populate /var/log/boot . For the reason behind the default, see http://bugs.debian.org/213028 (fixed since sysvinit 2.86.ds1-11). Not a command (as opposed to dmesg). |
| 15:40.20 | Inquisition[ESP] | Titan8990: i thought subkeys is down for everyone and you can know sth |
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| 15:40.28 | macrobat | stian79: are you on lenny? |
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| 15:40.40 | Guest34489 | hi i want my deb system never ever ever to bother me about packages |
| 15:40.52 | Guest34489 | specifically the kernel related ones |
| 15:41.15 | Guest34489 | how do i express that via pinning,, manual doesnt have a example for that |
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| 15:41.20 | stian79 | macrobat: Sorry I'm on squeeze |
| 15:41.32 | valdyn | Guest34489: what would you do this? to avoid security fixes? |
| 15:41.38 | valdyn | s/what/why/ |
| 15:41.48 | macrobat | stian79: to see which pkgs takes up most diskspace, try dpigs from the debian-goodies pkg |
| 15:41.57 | Guest34489 | valdyn: i build my own kernels i dont need apt to tell me about new outdated kernels |
| 15:42.27 | valdyn | Guest34489: it doesnt tell you about kernels you dont explicitely want to have |
| 15:42.27 | themill | Guest34489: why do you have the debian kernel packages installed at all then? |
| 15:42.31 | Titan8990 | Guest34489: then just remove the kernel packages |
| 15:42.42 | Vanscot | brb, lunch |
| 15:42.44 | Guest34489 | good point |
| 15:42.54 | Guest34489 | Titan8990: very good point |
| 15:42.59 | valdyn | Guest34489: maybe you are explicitely telling your system to get the latest debian fix by having a debian kernel meta package installed |
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| 15:43.16 | whatt | valdyn, what can you tell me about the sound? I've always used oss on ubuntu and now there's only the alpha selection |
| 15:43.16 | valdyn | Guest34489: either way removing *all* linux-image* which are not wanted would fix this |
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| 15:43.31 | Guest34489 | lemme check how ape my system goes if i try to remove the kernel |
| 15:43.32 | valdyn | whatt: you mean alsa i guess |
| 15:43.36 | Titan8990 | Guest34489: if you want to keep it around as a fail-safe if your kernel does boot, look into "aptitude hold" |
| 15:43.46 | whatt | valdyn, lol yeah |
| 15:43.50 | valdyn | whatt: sound working at all? |
| 15:43.54 | stian79 | macrobat: I installed from the netinst cd and did a dist upgrade from there before instaling kde-minimal so I think the system is quite slim, but why I need two browsers for checking my files? |
| 15:44.04 | Guest34489 | Titan8990: also,, i might be needing this features for other pakcages |
| 15:44.15 | Guest34489 | Titan8990: so pin isnt the prefered way ? |
| 15:44.22 | whatt | it doesn't seem to work |
| 15:44.26 | Guest34489 | i hate the syntax anyways |
| 15:44.34 | valdyn | !alsa checklist |
| 15:44.34 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels & toggle jack sense) 3) arts or esound stopped? 4) OSS modules unloaded? 5) speakers on? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. See also <list alsa users>. |
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| 15:45.26 | macrobat | stian79: check dependencies. apt-cache show or atp-cache depends |
| 15:45.26 | tpocra | Is there a way I can make LVM re-scan available devices to see if any logical volumes which already exist on those drives can be recgonised? |
| 15:45.40 | Guest34489 | Titan8990: ahhh thanks.. it seems like apititude hold is exactly what i needed,, |
| 15:45.53 | Titan8990 | Guest34489: yep. np |
| 15:46.18 | valdyn | tpocra: vgchange -ay does this already |
| 15:46.31 | Guest34489 | ehmm whats linux-headers-2.6.28-18-generic called as a generic package name |
| 15:46.36 | valdyn | tpocra: and that happens automagically on every boot |
| 15:46.42 | Guest34489 | seems like the version is smack in the middle |
| 15:46.59 | themill | Guest34489: that's an excellent example of why you should have stuck to #ubuntu. |
| 15:47.04 | macrobat | Guest34489: is that an ubuntu pkg? |
| 15:47.11 | Titan8990 | macrobat: yes, it is |
| 15:47.17 | Guest34489 | ahhh sorry guys |
| 15:47.21 | tpocra | vader--: Well, the device that makes the physical volume is a RAID array at /dev/md0 |
| 15:47.31 | tpocra | But that was not operational at boot, but now it is. |
| 15:47.39 | valdyn | tpocra: so run vgchange -ay now |
| 15:47.40 | Guest34489 | trust me,, im not a fan ,, has historical reasons |
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| 15:47.44 | tpocra | There is one big logical volume on there |
| 15:47.56 | valdyn | tpocra: or use /etc/init.d/lvm restart |
| 15:47.59 | whatt | valdyn, ok nothing works of the above |
| 15:48.05 | tpocra | I did but it did not work. |
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| 15:48.12 | Guest34489 | macrobat: yea it is, |
| 15:48.16 | tpocra | I think it needs the physical volume to be there? |
| 15:48.25 | Guest34489 | god i miss portage |
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| 15:48.28 | valdyn | whatt: thats pretty weird that you would claim that you cannot add yourself to the audio group |
| 15:48.43 | valdyn | whatt: whats the output for "cat /proc/asound/devices" ? |
| 15:48.48 | Guest34489 | themill: any clever workaround |
| 15:48.49 | Titan8990 | Guest34489: who doesn't miss "ebuild failed!" in red letters.... |
| 15:48.50 | Guest34489 | ? |
| 15:48.59 | Titan8990 | Guest34489: no ubuntu support here |
| 15:49.12 | developer | can anyone suggest a syntax for doing a cron job every 5 minutes which I later can check for if it went through or not |
| 15:49.20 | tpocra | valdyn: Yeah, the physical volume for it does not exist. If I ran pvcreate /dev/md0 foo |
| 15:49.25 | Guest34489 | Titan8990: well true,, on the other hand tool options and conf files were made by sane persons |
| 15:49.26 | whatt | valdyn, http://pastebin.com/Kn3L5EyS |
| 15:49.27 | joltcan | developer: */5 * * * * /bin/foobar |
| 15:49.27 | tpocra | Would it verwrite anything? |
| 15:49.35 | valdyn | developer: cron always mails the output |
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| 15:50.08 | valdyn | developer: so you get to pick a job that outputs something even if it doesnt fail |
| 15:50.29 | developer | exclude the mail option jolcat how could I check if your cron job syntax went through? |
| 15:50.50 | valdyn | tpocra: if you have to create the pv then theres no pv |
| 15:51.00 | valdyn | tpocra: which probably means that theres no vg data either |
| 15:51.15 | valdyn | tpocra: but no, that wouldnt destroy the vg meta data |
| 15:51.16 | tpocra | But it is there, it just wasn't started at boot. |
| 15:51.39 | valdyn | tpocra: i already told you that booting doesnt do more than the init script does |
| 15:51.59 | Titan8990 | developer: have it do something visiable such as write the output of `date` to a file |
| 15:52.02 | tpocra | Can't initialize physical volume "/dev/md0" of volume group "dmt" without -ff |
| 15:52.05 | valdyn | tpocra: theres no magic involved, booting simply runs "/etc/init.d/lvm start" |
| 15:52.26 | tpocra | See, it knows my old volume group name! |
| 15:52.29 | whatt | valdyn, I also think I don't have all the right repos |
| 15:52.50 | tpocra | # pvcreate /dev/md0 foo |
| 15:52.50 | tpocra | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:52.50 | tpocra | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:52.51 | valdyn | whatt: how could you not have the right repos unless you fucked them up yourself? |
| 15:52.57 | Titan8990 | whatt: there is really only one repo for testing since it does not get security updates |
| 15:53.08 | valdyn | whatt: why dont you simple do what i said and tell me the output of that command? |
| 15:53.13 | whatt | okk so it's right |
| 15:53.17 | whatt | I did it |
| 15:53.23 | whatt | valdyn, http://pastebin.com/Kn3L5EyS |
| 15:53.31 | valdyn | whatt: alright, missed it |
| 15:53.35 | whatt | np |
| 15:53.43 | valdyn | whatt: theres your sound device |
| 15:54.38 | valdyn | whatt: run "aplay < /dev/urandom" |
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| 15:55.07 | tpocra | valdyn: Running "vgscan" fixed everything |
| 15:55.40 | shining^ | I found another user with my issue : http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=47372 |
| 15:55.49 | valdyn | tpocra: alright, thats part of the init script too, obviously |
| 15:55.57 | whatt | valdyn, I hear noise |
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| 15:56.04 | valdyn | whatt: so your sound works fine |
| 15:56.32 | tpocra | valdyn: Okay so now I have the device file and lvdisplay shows it as active but nothing in /dev/mapper about it! |
| 15:57.03 | valdyn | tpocra: is that a complete debian system? with udev etc? |
| 15:57.19 | tpocra | udev is installed |
| 15:57.29 | valdyn | tpocra: run vgchange -ay |
| 15:57.48 | tpocra | Thank you!!!! |
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| 15:58.14 | stian79 | macrobat: I did not find out any helfull things by those comands. What is kde-minimal and what is kdebase-apps? |
| 15:58.24 | whatt | valdyn, Oh ok now I can hear something but only if the volume is 100% |
| 15:58.36 | valdyn | tpocra: next time just do "/etc/init.d/lvm2 restart", much easier |
| 15:58.42 | whatt | valdyn, I hear really really low |
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| 15:58.55 | valdyn | whatt: in flash you mean? |
| 15:59.11 | whatt | no in normal totem |
| 15:59.25 | valdyn | whatt: theres multiple volume control layers |
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| 15:59.42 | valdyn | whatt: tuning the one in totem up to full should not change the master volume or the pcm volume |
| 15:59.53 | whatt | no I mean the master volume |
| 15:59.58 | whatt | it's all 100% |
| 16:00.08 | valdyn | whatt: those controls should stack -> master up, pcm up , totem up, that should be full |
| 16:00.11 | whatt | speakers and principal |
| 16:00.36 | valdyn | whatt: maybe you also have a seperate audio out of the 5W amplifier |
| 16:00.52 | valdyn | whatt: while youre actually using the headphone jack now |
| 16:00.56 | whatt | lol I know but on ubuntu it was much more pumped |
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| 16:01.04 | whatt | bah it doesn't matter |
| 16:01.16 | macrobat | kde-minimal is a metapackage. it is a collection of pkgs. i dont know which pkgs are important in that group. i you want to clean it up, mark the pkgs you want to keep as "manually installed" then remove the metapkg |
| 16:01.26 | valdyn | whatt: you could also have a switch for the amp which is on by default in ubuntu but not in debian |
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| 16:01.43 | valdyn | whatt: gnome-volume-control.gstreamer has a gui for this.. |
| 16:02.04 | cahoot | whatt: what does /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset 0 do for your sound? |
| 16:02.15 | developer | I created a script with root which I named myroot.sh and placed it in /user/local/bin. when I press myroot.sh from anywhere in the system the scrip runs properly, but I cant get a cron job to run it! |
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| 16:02.38 | valdyn | developer: show us the cron job |
| 16:02.51 | whatt | valdyn, lower than before |
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| 16:03.01 | developer | when I hit crontab -l from root I get the output: */5 * * * *myroot.sh |
| 16:03.12 | valdyn | developer: i see a missing space there |
| 16:03.28 | developer | * * * * myroot.sh |
| 16:04.11 | valdyn | developer: */5 * * * * /usr/local/bin/myroot.sh |
| 16:04.11 | developer | what could the problem be? |
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| 16:04.28 | developer | ok I will test that too |
| 16:04.39 | valdyn | developer: does that file have execute permissions set? |
| 16:05.35 | valdyn | developer: your crontab needs a newline after the last cronjob btw |
| 16:05.54 | developer | okej that could be it |
| 16:06.09 | Titan8990 | had a lot of problems forgetting the n once... |
| 16:06.13 | valdyn | developer: note that /etc/crontab has a # there on purpose |
| 16:06.32 | valdyn | developer: that actually does something |
| 16:06.51 | developer | what, didnt understand that |
| 16:07.07 | valdyn | developer: look at the last line of /etc/crontab |
| 16:07.28 | valdyn | developer: theres a seemingly useless #, but its not useless |
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| 16:08.39 | whatt | valdyn, is there a guide for the startup mount of disks? |
| 16:08.39 | developer | ok I will check it out |
| 16:08.39 | valdyn | whatt: be more specific |
| 16:08.39 | yagoo | whatt, man fstab ? |
| 16:09.22 | developer | I checked that file out and I can tell that I haven't touched that file at all |
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| 16:10.03 | whatt | valdyn, I wanted to edit the file to mount the disks on startup |
| 16:10.03 | valdyn | developer: let me try a different way to show you |
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| 16:10.23 | whatt | valdyn, which should work as ubuntu does |
| 16:10.41 | valdyn | whatt: yea, thats the same |
| 16:10.50 | whatt | ok |
| 16:10.58 | valdyn | developer: nevermind, i dont think a users crontab even needs the newline |
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| 16:11.30 | developer | okej |
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| 16:12.57 | SuperMiguel | im running fluxbox, is there something like gnome-system-monitor for it? |
| 16:14.11 | Titan8990 | SuperMiguel: should still be able to use gnome-system-monitor in flux. |
| 16:14.43 | Titan8990 | SuperMiguel: conky provides similar functionality but can be difficult to configure and is always running |
| 16:15.21 | SuperMiguel | Titan8990, ya but when i try to install it i need to install 180MB of gnome shit :) |
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| 16:15.43 | whatt | mmm valdyn why when I try to open any program from the terminal it says: (gpartedbin:26165): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 |
| 16:16.00 | valdyn | whatt: thats probably a root terminal |
| 16:16.03 | Titan8990 | SuperMiguel: what about with --without-recommends? |
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| 16:16.18 | valdyn | whatt: dont run X programs as root |
| 16:16.37 | whatt | oh thx. Never seen that before :/ |
| 16:16.43 | doubleclick | SuperMiguel: you could use htop... with no "extra shit" :) |
| 16:16.55 | valdyn | whatt: sudo would not bring that error |
| 16:17.05 | valdyn | whatt: which is probably what you're used to |
| 16:17.34 | whatt | yeah that's it :) |
| 16:17.37 | SuperMiguel | in htop 1/2 are cpu? |
| 16:17.37 | developer | do I need to restart bmy comp after setting a cron job |
| 16:17.53 | valdyn | !gkrellm |
| 16:17.53 | dpkg | gkrellm just rocks. http://gkrellm.net, or have a look at http://gkrellm.luon.net for 4 cool plugins If you have seen the movie Forbidden Planet, you might recall the Krell had a room with wall to wall meters for monitoring their power systems, and that is what I was thinking of when I came up with the GKrellM name. |
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| 16:19.18 | doubleclick | SuperMiguel: what? |
| 16:19.44 | SuperMiguel | doubleclick, when you open htop.. it says 1 and 2 that cpus usage right? |
| 16:19.53 | Titan8990 | SuperMiguel: it shows each core or hyperthread as a CPU |
| 16:19.56 | doubleclick | SuperMiguel: you mean does it show both cpus? yes it does |
| 16:20.20 | Titan8990 | SuperMiguel: just as /proc/cpuinfo reports it as multiple CPUs |
| 16:20.25 | luminoso | is there anyway to install one simple unstable package on stable debian? |
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| 16:21.12 | valdyn | !ssb |
| 16:21.12 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 16:21.24 | doubleclick | "Tree view, SMP, and other features available since htop 0.5" |
| 16:21.54 | luminoso | valdyn thank you |
| 16:22.31 | brammator | where is net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 in lenny 2.6.26-2 ? |
| 16:22.42 | brammator | how do I turn off ipv6 w/o rebooting? |
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| 16:22.56 | jelly | brammator: can't do it afaik |
| 16:23.14 | brammator | ouch. |
| 16:23.16 | NeoLobster | Anybody know which kernel headers package I should be installing with the current debian testing kernel? uname -r shows 2.6.32-trunk-686, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) finds nothing. |
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| 16:23.36 | brammator | then, can I remove v6 addresses from interface manually? |
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| 16:24.03 | jelly | brammator: that's why they added the sysctl tunable in newer kernels. Why do you want to do it? |
| 16:24.08 | developer | Im still having problem with my cron job, is it possible that debian has blocket cron for the root user |
| 16:24.27 | jelly | developer: by default root may use it. |
| 16:24.37 | brammator | jelly: "error: "net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6" is an unknown key" that's why. |
| 16:24.57 | brammator | (if I understood you correctly) |
| 16:25.11 | jelly | brammator: I just said it was added in newer kernels, 2.6.26 doesn't have it yet |
| 16:25.23 | jelly | s/was/had been/? |
| 16:25.26 | brammator | ah. ok. thank you. |
| 16:25.34 | jelly | !noipv6 |
| 16:25.34 | dpkg | [noipv6] To disable use of <IPv6> on Lenny: echo "install ipv6 /bin/true" >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf (and reboot for the changes to take effect). From Squeeze onwards, IPv6 is built into the kernel, add the kernel command line option "ipv6.disable=1" to your bootloader. |
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| 16:27.22 | bluesceada | what about a debian bugfixed iceweasel, that isn't prone to the most recent firefox vulnerability? |
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| 16:27.40 | bluesceada | is it in 3.0.6-3 or 3.5.8-1~bpo50+2 |
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| 16:29.33 | Without | hi how to check how many user connected to my webserver? |
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| 16:30.08 | whatt | valdyn, what do you suggest me to do for the flash now? I can't see anything apart from youtube in very slow motion |
| 16:30.11 | \amethyst | bluesceada: if you're talking about mfsa 2010-08 (CVE-2010-1028), that only affects 3.6 |
| 16:30.23 | bluesceada | oh ok |
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| 16:30.48 | bluesceada | \amethyst: thanks |
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| 16:31.21 | NeoLobster | Oh, never mind... When they let the "trunk" version of the kernel into the repo, it screwed up the naming convention, so grub got confused. Default is loading an old kernel. |
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| 16:32.33 | \amethyst | bluesceada: hm, but 2010-11 does affect the earlier versions, and doesn't appear to be fixed in lenny-security |
| 16:33.15 | whatt | what can I do to configure flash on squeeze 64bit? |
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| 16:33.59 | \amethyst | bluesceada: but that one's fixed in 3.5.8, so sid, squeeze, and lenny-backports are fine |
| 16:34.08 | bluesceada | ok, thanks |
| 16:34.33 | FilipeMaia | Does anyone a tool to see differences between pdf files? |
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| 16:34.48 | cristi8 | can someone tell me an app that uses OSS sound output? i need to test that devices are working |
| 16:35.01 | bluesceada | xmms maybe if that still exists |
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| 16:35.27 | bluesceada | but using some backend of course... |
| 16:35.51 | cristi8 | hmm, not in repositories... but `echo "a" > /dev/dsp` should work, or it was supposed to say "device or resource busy" ? |
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| 16:36.11 | bluesceada | i dont know, sorry |
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| 16:36.52 | cahoot | cristi8: AFAIK you can tell mplayer to output to dsp |
| 16:36.57 | daltio12 | guys i am trying to resote my debian from backup |
| 16:37.17 | daltio12 | i can not get the boor screen though i resote /boot and / partion |
| 16:37.19 | nsadmin | resote? |
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| 16:37.39 | daltio12 | i can mount /boot prtiton and see my kernel and grup there |
| 16:37.39 | cahoot | restore? |
| 16:37.52 | daltio12 | but can not get boot screen to boot server normaly |
| 16:37.57 | daltio12 | any idea what to check |
| 16:38.06 | daltio12 | yes i take backup from partimage |
| 16:38.10 | daltio12 | software |
| 16:38.24 | daltio12 | restore /boot and / |
| 16:38.33 | nsadmin | well you would probably boot a livecd and use it to install grub |
| 16:38.54 | nsadmin | be sure to backup your menu.lst |
| 16:38.57 | daltio12 | i put mbr on dd if=mbrfile of=/dev/cciss/c0d0 bs=512 count=1 |
| 16:39.14 | daltio12 | how i install grub? |
| 16:39.17 | daltio12 | any idea |
| 16:39.18 | daltio12 | ? |
| 16:39.24 | daltio12 | i ahve debain cd with me |
| 16:39.27 | daltio12 | plz help |
| 16:39.31 | daltio12 | to install grub |
| 16:39.35 | jelly | !tell daltio12 about enter |
| 16:39.45 | nsadmin | he's -really- entery |
| 16:39.58 | daltio12 | jelly? |
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| 16:40.33 | daltio12 | ok soory , plz tel me how i install grub |
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| 16:41.11 | jelly | daltio12: use a livecd (the installer might work) to mount your root and /boot system, chroot there, mount /sys and use grub-install |
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| 16:42.04 | jelly | !fixgrub |
| 16:42.04 | dpkg | rumour has it, fixgrub is As root: mkdir /mnt/point ; mount -t <fstype> -orw /dev/blah /mnt/point (where /blah = your / partition) ; mount --bind /dev /mnt/point/dev ; mount --bind /proc /mnt/point/proc ; chroot /mnt/point ; grub-install /dev/blah (to install in MBR) |
| 16:42.23 | jelly | daltio12: something along the commands above ^^ |
| 16:42.33 | daltio12 | hey one more thin |
| 16:42.44 | daltio12 | my disk /boot was in /dev/cciss/c0d0p1 |
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| 16:43.13 | daltio12 | when i mount /boot and open menu ist it says my grub is in (hd,0) |
| 16:43.14 | daltio12 | why |
| 16:44.01 | nsadmin | the answer to that has to do with how grub sees volumes; study grub for details. |
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| 16:44.24 | jelly | daltio12: (hd0,0), you mean? Grub 0.9x counts partitions from 0. (hd0,0) = first disk, first partition |
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| 16:44.53 | jelly | daltio12: to make things more confusing, grub 2 (1.9x) counts the partitions from 1. |
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| 16:45.12 | nsadmin | hmm, good to know |
| 16:45.36 | developer | it seems like I cant get any cron job to execute! |
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| 16:45.52 | nsadmin | who do you want executed? |
| 16:46.18 | developer | where in ps aux should I look if I would like to find cron? |
| 16:46.24 | developer | cron processes |
| 16:46.28 | brammator | nsadmin everybody except me, please |
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| 16:46.48 | nsadmin | anyone who's a body LINE UP! |
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| 16:47.46 | nsadmin | developer: ever used grep? |
| 16:47.58 | NeoLobster | How do you change the boot order in the new grub? Specifically, how do you set a different kernel to be default? |
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| 16:48.42 | doubleclick | NeoLobster: in /etc/default/grub |
| 16:48.43 | developer | I did it and found my cron job there |
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| 16:48.48 | yagoo | NeoLobster, a grub manual google should say.. |
| 16:49.04 | nsadmin | NeoLobster: you don't change the order, what you do is make sure there's a /boot/grub/default |
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| 16:49.13 | nsadmin | which grub are you using |
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| 16:49.44 | nsadmin | run this: dpkg -s grub | grep Version |
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| 16:50.07 | developer | has anybody in here worked with pentaho DI |
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| 17:00.25 | Fozzy | In Debian Lenny, I'm trying to keep my terminal from blanking, but it keeps going blank after 10 minutes. I ran 'setterm -blank 0 -powersave off -powerdown 0' on it. Any other things I could try? |
| 17:01.27 | cahoot | man xset |
| 17:01.30 | jelly | Fozzy: console or X? |
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| 17:01.54 | Fozzy | jelly: X isn't running |
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| 17:02.36 | jhutchins_lt | Fozzy: Check your BIOS. |
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| 17:11.38 | Fozzy | jhutchins_lt: not sure how the BIOS has any effect, the display is still 'on', just the console has blanked itself. Hitting any key on an attached keyboard unblanks the screen |
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| 17:13.16 | developer | Im still having problem with my cron job, none of my jobs runs and I can tell you that I had problem sending emails from my debian comp, could this also be the reason why cron jobs can be run because they also send mails |
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| 17:21.14 | jelly | developer: have you enabled cron.log in syslog and looked at it? |
| 17:22.12 | Sergio` | developer: I'm not sure if it's the case but cron needs a newline at the end to run the last cronjob. It's a bug. |
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| 17:23.14 | jelly | it's more a consequence of a simple parser than a bug. Lines in text files should be properly terminated. |
| 17:23.43 | jelly | however that issue only affects the last line in a crontab |
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| 17:25.55 | ninjix | anyone here running Myri 10g cards? |
| 17:26.44 | nervoustwitch | !anybody |
| 17:26.44 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 17:27.59 | Gnitset | Hi, is it possible to configure apt to use a socks5-proxy? or fetching files using curl (configured for socks5)? |
| 17:28.01 | arcsky | does anyone know a softcell-phone (VoIP) which supports IPv6? |
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| 17:28.38 | abrotman | Gnitset: you can do a proxy for apt .. not sure if that means socks or not |
| 17:28.45 | roe | do we know why icedove-3.0 hasn't hit sid yet? |
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| 17:28.55 | roe | or where I can find out why at least? |
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| 17:28.59 | abrotman | roe: even the win32 version is buggy as hell |
| 17:29.19 | roe | isn't that where buggy software goes? |
| 17:29.28 | Gnitset | abrotman: all info I've found is about http and ftp proxy |
| 17:29.32 | Titan8990 | Gnitset: AFAIK, only http proxies are supported |
| 17:29.47 | Gnitset | :( |
| 17:29.53 | abrotman | roe: i'm implying that it may not any time soon .. They'd probably rather keep it out for the squeeze release (agree or disagree) |
| 17:30.08 | roe | squeeze != sid |
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| 17:30.45 | abrotman | do you actually understand how Debian works? |
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| 17:30.50 | abrotman | roe: next time, check the BTS |
| 17:30.52 | Gnitset | has anyone seen a http-proxy server that can connect to a socks5 server? |
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| 17:30.52 | abrotman | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=574188 |
| 17:31.07 | Gnitset | or do I have to write one |
| 17:31.30 | Titan8990 | Gnitset: what is the need for the SOCKS proxy? |
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| 17:32.02 | Titan8990 | abrotman: pm spam? |
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| 17:32.07 | abrotman | Titan8990: DCC spam above ? |
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| 17:32.11 | Gnitset | Titan8990: the proxy is a DynamicForward in ssh |
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| 17:32.26 | Titan8990 | abrotman: my client must supress DCC |
| 17:32.36 | abrotman | or send it to another window |
| 17:32.42 | Titan8990 | abrotman: ah, yeah, it went to the status window |
| 17:34.12 | developer | can somebody see why this cron job is not running att all nor every 5 sekonds: */5 * * * * /usr/local/bin/myscr.sh >/dev/null 2&>1 |
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| 17:35.05 | Sergio` | Every 5 minutes, you mean. |
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| 17:35.26 | developer | yes every 5 minutes that's right! |
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| 17:36.56 | abrotman | developer: can you paste the contents of the script in a pastebin ? |
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| 17:40.15 | developer | it starts another script called kitchen.sh which is part of pentaho DI |
| 17:40.19 | Vanscot | So, any idea about my problem? |
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| 17:42.00 | jhutchins_lt | developer: Step one: remove the redirect. |
| 17:42.14 | jhutchins_lt | developer: Step two: does myscr.sh run manually? |
| 17:42.52 | jhutchins_lt | developer: how did you create the crontab? |
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| 17:44.15 | Titan8990 | Vanscot: restate your problem |
| 17:44.27 | Vanscot | Ok.. |
| 17:44.56 | jhutchins_lt | Titan8990: He did something manually with his PHP and it doesn't execute. |
| 17:45.01 | Vanscot | Dont know why, and seems that it's just for my userdir, apache is forcing the download of php files.. |
| 17:45.05 | Vanscot | Instead of parsing them. |
| 17:45.21 | Vanscot | Also, I cant find the appropiate keyboard layout for my kb.. |
| 17:45.22 | developer | yes my sh file runs manually |
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| 17:45.25 | Vanscot | And some chars are missing. |
| 17:45.32 | Titan8990 | Vanscot: such as? |
| 17:46.15 | Vanscot | Well, @ is now [Alt GR] + Q instead of [Alt GR] + 2... |
| 17:46.28 | Vanscot | And others like {} not in the right place. |
| 17:46.41 | Vanscot | And, for the php... |
| 17:46.43 | Titan8990 | Vanscot: what about single quotes? ' |
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| 17:47.04 | Vanscot | Well, now I have like 4 quotes.. |
| 17:47.05 | jhutchins_lt | developer: Remove the redirect and see if you get anything. |
| 17:47.24 | jhutchins_lt | developer: Again, how did you create the crontab? |
| 17:47.24 | Vanscot | xD |
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| 17:47.41 | Vanscot | ' " |
| 17:47.48 | Vanscot | They're ok. |
| 17:48.08 | Vanscot | For the php thingy, I didn't do anything manually.. |
| 17:48.19 | Titan8990 | Vanscot: dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
| 17:48.21 | Vanscot | I've actually removed purged and reinstalled. |
| 17:48.29 | Vanscot | Titan8990: doesn't work.. |
| 17:48.34 | abrotman | developer: can you paste the contents of the script in a pastebin ? |
| 17:48.41 | developer | I removed the first line from crontab is it ok to do so? |
| 17:48.44 | Vanscot | Could be that kde4's system settings os overruling? |
| 17:48.48 | Titan8990 | Vanscot: what doesn't work about it? it doesn't change your keymap or it doesn't run? |
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| 17:48.55 | jhutchins_lt | Vanscot: In that case, I would guess that it's a permissions issue, maybe you need +exec (except I'm not sure that applies to PHP). |
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| 17:49.05 | Titan8990 | Vanscot: well.. dis it only a problem in X? |
| 17:49.23 | Vanscot | Doesn't change the layput, Titan8990, seems like the only one working is kde4 system settings. |
| 17:49.46 | Vanscot | jhutchins_lt: permissions = checked. |
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| 17:49.54 | Vanscot | My public_html is 0755.. |
| 17:50.01 | Vanscot | (recursively) |
| 17:50.06 | jhutchins_lt | Vanscot: Very well then, nothing is wrong, it must work. |
| 17:50.16 | abrotman | Vanscot: clear your browser cache and restart the browser |
| 17:50.19 | Lns | What version of gnome comes with Debian testing? |
| 17:50.19 | Vanscot | I know, that's why I dont know what to do. |
| 17:50.25 | Vanscot | Not a browser issue. |
| 17:50.31 | Titan8990 | judd: versions gnome |
| 17:50.32 | abrotman | Lns: packages.debian.org/gnome-session |
| 17:50.33 | Vanscot | wget also downloads the php file. |
| 17:50.33 | judd | gnome -- etch: 1:2.14.3.6; lenny: 1:2.22.2~5; sid: 1:2.28+6; squeeze: 1:2.28+6 |
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| 17:50.41 | Titan8990 | Lns: 2.28 |
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| 17:50.52 | Lns | wow cool |
| 17:50.56 | abrotman | Vanscot: i should hope wget downloads it .. but does it download the code or the final product ? |
| 17:51.06 | Vanscot | The code... |
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| 17:51.10 | Vanscot | It gets the php file.. |
| 17:51.14 | Vanscot | Not the parsed one. |
| 17:51.31 | Vanscot | *parsed output |
| 17:51.50 | abrotman | Vanscot: dpkg -l libapache2-mod-php5 .. which version is it ? |
| 17:52.10 | Vanscot | 5.3.1-5 |
| 17:52.30 | Titan8990 | judd versions libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 17:52.32 | judd | libapache2-mod-php5 -- etch: 5.2.0-8+etch13; etch-security: 5.2.0+dfsg-8+etch16; lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny4; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny8; squeeze: 5.3.1-5; sid: 5.3.2-1 |
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| 17:52.44 | Vanscot | <- Testing.. |
| 17:52.48 | Vanscot | (squeeze) |
| 17:52.53 | abrotman | Vanscot: a2enmod php5 ? |
| 17:52.54 | kimec | hi guys, anybody using Debian/kFreeBSD? |
| 17:52.57 | abrotman | restart apache? |
| 17:52.58 | Zer | Howdy. I'd like to make an internal LAN for my virtual machines. I get that pre-up brctl add br0 will be necessary, but |
| 17:53.00 | Vanscot | Already loaded. |
| 17:53.05 | abrotman | kimec: they have a channel on irc.oftc.net |
| 17:53.11 | Vanscot | abrotman: plenty of times done. |
| 17:53.12 | Titan8990 | abrotman: he said that it works for the default dir but not for his homedir |
| 17:53.15 | abrotman | Vanscot: is this a public machine ? |
| 17:53.21 | Vanscot | Sadly, no. |
| 17:53.24 | Vanscot | :-7 |
| 17:53.26 | abrotman | oh .. it's disabled for users .. it hought it wasn't working at all |
| 17:53.32 | Zer | how would one edit /etc/network/interfaces for this configuration? |
| 17:53.33 | Vanscot | No.. |
| 17:53.36 | Zer | There will be no actual interface |
| 17:53.38 | Vanscot | It's enable for users. |
| 17:53.49 | abrotman | you specifically enabled it ? |
| 17:53.52 | Vanscot | Module userdir already enabled |
| 17:53.53 | Vanscot | Yup.. |
| 17:54.00 | Vanscot | And restarted apache lots of times. |
| 17:54.01 | abrotman | did you look in that file ? |
| 17:54.07 | Vanscot | Yup.. |
| 17:54.11 | Titan8990 | !tell Zer about bridge setup |
| 17:54.13 | Vanscot | It's the default one. |
| 17:54.27 | Zer | How can one use /etc/network/interfaces when there is no real interface? I'm not trying to bridge to the Internet, just between VMs on the same machine |
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| 17:54.45 | themill | !dbugs 555606 |
| 17:54.48 | dpkg | DONE:#555606:W[libapache2-mod-php5] Rethink mod_php default configuration / disable for userdirs (); Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:21:02 UTC [] |
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| 17:54.57 | abrotman | oh wait .. i said that? |
| 17:55.06 | kimec | abrotman: thanks |
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| 17:55.44 | Vanscot | themill: it's on the mods-enabled folder, also I can index my userdir.. |
| 17:56.00 | Vanscot | I just cant get the php files to be parsed instead of downloaded. |
| 17:56.01 | themill | encourages Vanscot to read the bug |
| 17:56.24 | Vanscot | reading the bug. |
| 17:56.36 | themill | Vanscot: you should also read /usr/share/doc/libapache2-mod-php5/NEWS.Debian |
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| 17:58.01 | developer | can some body suggest a cron job syntax which I later could check if it went through or not (exclude the mailing stuff) |
| 17:58.19 | KB1JWQ | developer: To do what? |
| 17:58.42 | developer | anything as long as I can check that the cron job was made |
| 17:59.00 | KB1JWQ | developer: Sure. How often? |
| 17:59.07 | AimHere | Why not do a 'date > ~/crontabtest.txt' or something |
| 17:59.21 | KB1JWQ | 1 * * * * root touch /root/proof |
| 17:59.25 | dondelelcaro | developer: man 5 crontab; fo details on how to do it |
| 17:59.32 | KB1JWQ | In /etc/crontab, obviously. |
| 17:59.40 | KB1JWQ | No user specification in crontab -e |
| 18:00.01 | themill | /var/log/auth.log would normally record the cron event too |
| 18:00.26 | developer | every 5 minutes |
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| 18:00.53 | jelly | developer: at the risk of repeating myself, have you tried enabling and looking at /var/log/cron.log yet? |
| 18:01.10 | developer | don't know how to do that |
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| 18:01.31 | Vanscot | Finally! |
| 18:01.34 | jelly | developer: which debian release are you running? |
| 18:01.38 | Vanscot | Tks, themill |
| 18:01.44 | developer | 5 |
| 18:01.53 | jelly | developer: is there a rsyslog or syslogd process running? Which one? |
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| 18:02.11 | jelly | er, rsyslogd or syslogd |
| 18:02.39 | themill | Vanscot: no problems. BTW it would probably have been easier to know that you were running squeeze as we'd have known to look for changes between lenny and squeeze. |
| 18:02.46 | developer | both are running |
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| 18:02.54 | Vanscot | Sorry, my bad.. |
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| 18:03.02 | Vanscot | Well, now we can move into the other problem.. |
| 18:03.08 | Vanscot | About keyboard layout. |
| 18:03.09 | Vanscot | :D |
| 18:03.14 | jelly | developer: pastebin the output of ps -fe |grep syslog, please |
| 18:03.15 | themill | Vanscot: how about just reconfiguring it in kde? |
| 18:03.25 | Zer | Hmm, is there a danger if two bridges have the same bridge ID? |
| 18:03.33 | developer | ok 1 min |
| 18:03.34 | Zer | brctl add <bridge name> does not seem to assign them unique ones |
| 18:03.34 | abrotman | wait .. i didn't get a thanks?!~ |
| 18:03.56 | themill | !spank abrotman |
| 18:03.57 | dpkg | bends abrotman over his knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK* |
| 18:04.10 | jelly | developer: while you're at it, pastebin your whole "crontab -l" as well |
| 18:04.22 | developer | ok |
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| 18:05.04 | Vanscot | themill: tryed that, but no layout present works now (in the way that all the keys print the chars they should in the right part of the keyboard {}[] and all the likes keys) |
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| 18:05.20 | developer | how do I make a pastebin? |
| 18:05.28 | jelly | !paste |
| 18:05.28 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>. |
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| 18:06.31 | Vanscot | Now I have to use AltGr+Q for @ instead of AltGr+2... |
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| 18:06.46 | Vanscot | Not to mention {}, [], tildes or the likes. |
| 18:07.00 | Titan8990 | !keymap |
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| 18:07.01 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap", or ask me about <drxx> or use kcontrol, gnome-control-center or similar. For setting up X keymaps, also check out xkeycaps and xev, or ask me about <multimedia keys>. In console you can also use "loadkeys" for once-only/temporary adjustments. |
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| 18:07.12 | developer | http://paste.debian.net/65764 |
| 18:07.38 | Vanscot | REading man xmodmap |
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| 18:10.26 | developer | any help for me out there? |
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| 18:12.02 | Titan8990 | abrotman asked for a paste of the script as well |
| 18:12.12 | abrotman | developer: i've asked *twice* for you to paste the script and the script it calls |
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| 18:13.09 | jhutchins_lt | developer: Just out of curiosity, ps ax | grep cron? |
| 18:13.42 | developer | ok I will paste my script to |
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| 18:15.35 | developer | http://paste.debian.net/65768 |
| 18:15.54 | developer | next will be my scripts |
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| 18:18.02 | developer | http://paste.debian.net/65769 |
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| 18:18.48 | Titan8990 | developer: use full path here: ./kitchen.sh |
| 18:18.53 | [XeN] | hi, i just tried to install debian squeeze on my eeepc 1000he. the installer won't recognise my network card which should be a atheros l1e. does anyone know how to solve this problem? |
| 18:18.56 | jhutchins_lt | developer: Did you try [12:58] <KB1JWQ> 1 * * * * root touch /root/proof |
| 18:19.07 | developer | line 1-4 is democonsumer.sh and 6> is kitchen.sh |
| 18:19.33 | developer | no I din't try it |
| 18:20.03 | jelly | jhutchins_lt: he would have to wait 42 minutes for that to do something |
| 18:20.24 | jelly | disregarding the syntax difference for /etc and user's crontabs |
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| 18:20.46 | doubleclick | developer: tried using full path in line 4? |
| 18:20.50 | [XeN] | maybe i just need to add the driver for the card. did you know how i can do it? i'm installing from usb key |
| 18:20.54 | jhutchins_lt | jelly: Silly of me, yes, */1 |
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| 18:21.35 | developer | no I havent tried with the full path but my script democonsumer orks when I lunch it |
| 18:21.37 | jhutchins_lt | jelly: I've never used the /etc format. |
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| 18:21.56 | Vanscot | (Or, should I say prevails?) |
| 18:22.02 | jelly | developer: so you have rsyslog. You can uncomment the /var/log/cron.log line in /etc/rsyslog.conf and /etc/init.d/rsyslog restart |
| 18:22.59 | developer | what do you mean jelly? could you please explaine it a little more |
| 18:23.20 | Sazpaimon_ | I'm trying to dd an image remotely to another machine |
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| 18:23.37 | Sazpaimon_ | but I'm only transferring at 5Mbit, when I can do 3 times more than that |
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| 18:24.32 | deadbeef | GUYS A ONE-WORD ANSWER PLS, ASAP! what package do i have to install to get my touchpad 'click' when i tip on it two times? |
| 18:24.33 | jhutchins_lt | developer: So what home directory does a crontab run from? |
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| 18:24.46 | jelly | deadbeef: no |
| 18:24.58 | deadbeef | jelly: thanks |
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| 18:25.17 | developer | what |
| 18:25.18 | jelly | developer: I mean, crond logs every cron job it starts via syslog service. However, default syslog configuration disables cron logging for security reasons. You can enable it by editing /etc/rsyslog.conf, uncommenting the line that mentions /var/log/cron.log, and restarting the service |
| 18:26.01 | developer | okej I will do that but I would need to get help with restarting the service |
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| 18:26.48 | jhutchins_lt | developer: I use /etc/init.d/<service> restart |
| 18:26.50 | jelly | developer: I also told you the usual way services are restarted. "/etc/init.d/rsyslog restart" command |
| 18:26.52 | doubleclick | developer: jelly already gave you the command... /etc/init.d/rsyslog restart |
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| 18:26.57 | doubleclick | yeah... :) |
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| 18:28.17 | kassah | is there a semi-current HOWTO on building a usable apt repository? everything I can find is marked outdated |
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| 18:29.45 | developer | uncommented and restarted the service |
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| 18:32.01 | jelly | developer: so, did cron.log get created? Is there something in it now? |
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| 18:32.54 | developer | cron.log would be in which directory? |
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| 18:33.07 | jelly | is not telling |
| 18:33.34 | jelly | dude, what did you just edit? |
| 18:33.34 | Segaja | hi. i'm trying to create a .deb package, but i have some questions |
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| 18:34.07 | developer | ok I found it /var/log/cron.log |
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| 18:34.16 | developer | wait I'll look in it |
| 18:34.29 | Segaja | first one: if i have an init script in my package. do i need to start it manually in postinst and stop it in prerm? |
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| 18:35.25 | jelly | Segaja: only if it makes sense for the service to run with default/unchanged configuration by default |
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| 18:35.51 | developer | no the cron.log was not created |
| 18:35.54 | themill | kassah: /msg dpkg own repo |
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| 18:36.58 | Segaja | jelly: i don't understand, what you mean |
| 18:38.03 | jelly | Segaja: when the package is first installed, does it require configuration to do something useful? |
| 18:38.17 | jhutchins_lt | Segaja: If it doesn't need to be configured manually, I think I'd go ahead and start it. Yes, by all means stop it in prerm. |
| 18:38.20 | jelly | Segaja: if it doesn't you may as well start the service. |
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| 18:39.04 | Segaja | hm, i did start it in postinst, but than i get an error from lintian: E: ciao: maintainer-script-calls-init-script-directly postinst:8 |
| 18:39.20 | Segaja | the same for the stop command in postrm |
| 18:39.31 | jelly | Segaja: you're not using debhelper, eh? |
| 18:39.44 | Segaja | jelly: no, just: fakeroot dpkg-deb --build ... |
| 18:40.00 | jelly | Segaja: I mean, in your debian/rules |
| 18:40.07 | Segaja | jelly: that is the first debian package i make and i followed: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/ |
| 18:40.13 | Segaja | debian/rules? |
| 18:40.19 | developer | ok my cron.log is created what to do now? |
| 18:40.19 | jelly | blinks |
| 18:40.25 | jelly | developer: read it. |
| 18:40.34 | themill | Segaja: you should use invoke-rc.d rather than calling the init script |
| 18:40.47 | Segaja | themill: what is the difference? |
| 18:41.24 | themill | Segaja: when you use invoke-rc.d, the local admin has control over the process using policy-rc.d. (and this is required by policy) |
| 18:41.31 | developer | http://paste.debian.net/65772 |
| 18:41.32 | jelly | Segaja: lintian won't complain, for one :-) |
| 18:41.48 | Segaja | so i use: invoke-rc.d ciao-daemon start ? |
| 18:41.56 | Segaja | ciao-daemon is the name of my init script |
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| 18:42.26 | jelly | developer: this means that job gets started. |
| 18:42.32 | developer | okej? |
| 18:42.44 | jelly | developer: cron works! |
| 18:42.56 | developer | now it's even 3 rown |
| 18:42.59 | themill | Segaja: you might like to look at debhelper. dh_installinit just does the Right Thing for you |
| 18:43.19 | jelly | developer: you did tell it to run each minute. |
| 18:43.32 | developer | but the script works when I manually runs it and nothing happens when cron does it |
| 18:43.49 | Segaja | themill: okay |
| 18:43.52 | jhutchins_lt | debhelper: That's because you're not telling cron where it is. |
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| 18:44.53 | jelly | jhutchins_lt: stop talking to innocent bots! |
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| 18:45.10 | developer | what? |
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| 18:45.44 | jhutchins_lt | developer: cron does not run from your current working directory! |
| 18:46.19 | developer | I gave it the wole path /usr/local/bin/democonsumer.sh |
| 18:46.29 | jelly | developer: pastebin the script. |
| 18:47.24 | wildc4rd | evenin' all |
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| 18:48.56 | developer | http://paste.debian.net/65769 the first 4 line are my democonsumer script the rest is the kitchen.sh which my democonsumer script calls |
| 18:48.58 | jelly | developer: if you cd /root, and then execute /usr/local/bin/democonsumer.sh in that same shell, while the current working directory is "/root" does it work? |
| 18:49.21 | jok3r | jelly, the / in front of a path means start from root |
| 18:49.36 | jok3r | so no matter where you are / will provide you with an absolute path |
| 18:49.40 | jelly | jok3r: I know. |
| 18:50.01 | themill | jok3r: but you'll have a different cwd so relative paths will behave differently |
| 18:50.01 | jok3r | oh, perhaps /path/to/script/./script |
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| 18:50.13 | jok3r | themill, mmhmm |
| 18:50.42 | themill | which is the problem in this case... line 4 of the pasted script is full of fail |
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| 18:50.59 | jok3r | heh, sorry, i didn't even see an attached script :D |
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| 18:51.25 | developer | no actually it din't work! |
| 18:52.18 | developer | I cant runt the my democonsumer script from /root |
| 18:52.22 | jelly | developer: so, make your script work regardless of the current working directory (cwd) |
| 18:52.36 | jhutchins_lt | developer: It is working correctly and is doing exactly what you have told it to do. |
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| 18:53.08 | jok3r | jhutchins_lt, a program can only do what you tell it to do ;p |
| 18:53.09 | jhutchins_lt | developer: Line 4 of http://paste.debian.net/65769 shows a relative path. |
| 18:53.18 | jhutchins_lt | developer: This is wrong. |
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| 18:53.36 | jok3r | it executes it in the current dir |
| 18:53.37 | jok3r | . |
| 18:53.51 | developer | yes that's maybe also a problem |
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| 18:54.05 | themill | s/maybe// |
| 18:54.06 | developer | I should maybe give it an ab path |
| 18:54.07 | developer | I'll try that |
| 18:54.58 | jelly | maybe? |
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| 18:55.34 | Segaja | one more question about building a deb package. init scripts have to be declared as conf files, right? if so. how do i do that? just create a file named "conffiles" in debian/DEBIAN/ where i list the files as one file per row? |
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| 18:57.06 | jelly | Segaja: since you seem to be creating the contents of a binary package, then yes |
| 18:57.15 | developer | I have to say that my cron job is working again |
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| 18:57.49 | developer | thankyou all for you support and time! I couldn't have done thins my self since Im used to work with windows |
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| 18:58.18 | jelly | developer: now fix your mail service so you can read any errors or output from the cron job :-> |
| 18:58.19 | maher | is there some way to run partman outside the indtaller? |
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| 18:58.42 | xxrobixx | buonasera a tutti |
| 18:58.51 | jelly | !it |
| 18:58.52 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 18:59.02 | Segaja | jelly: actually, i'm creating a deb package for a python program and an needed init script |
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| 18:59.32 | developer | Im gonna get a pizza first and then maybe |
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| 18:59.53 | xxrobixx | ciao |
| 18:59.55 | jelly | Segaja: also, it your package, and no one forces you to make that init script a conffile if you don't want to |
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| 19:00.03 | developer | but I guess that I should recomment the line for the cron in rsyslog |
| 19:00.23 | xxrobixx | per informazioni in italiano? |
| 19:00.49 | Segaja | jelly: i want to do it right and at the moment i get an error, because there is no conffiles |
| 19:00.53 | macrobat | !it |
| 19:00.53 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
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| 19:01.34 | jelly | Segaja: you're already doing it wrong by creating a binary package instead of a source package that creates the binary one :-| |
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| 19:02.04 | zfe | I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the |
| 19:02.04 | zfe | GNU system every day, without realizing it. |
| 19:02.28 | Segaja | jelly: i have no binary code |
| 19:02.36 | macrobat | ty for that clarification :) |
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| 19:04.35 | jelly | Segaja: that's not relevant. That whole howto explains a way to hack and create a binary _package_, but Debian doesn't do it this way. They have source packages which look differently, and have a makefile that creates the binary package. |
| 19:06.32 | jelly | Segaja: it's very useful to know how to create to change an existing binary package if need be, but if you want to do it The Right Way, use New Maintainers Guide |
| 19:06.55 | jelly | s/create to change/create, or change/ |
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| 19:08.22 | Segaja | jelly: okay, i will have a look at it. thanks |
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| 19:08.52 | jelly | Segaja: (it also rather more complex, and I have to confess many of my custom packages were done the way you do it now) |
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| 19:09.21 | Segaja | jelly: actually, if i think about it, the way i do it at the moment will be fine for this small package |
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| 19:09.37 | Segaja | i will also have some warnings at the end, because i have image files in /usr/lib |
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| 19:11.00 | adac | which package does contain updatedb? |
| 19:11.01 | jelly | Segaja: you can ignore frivolous lintian warnings for the time being then |
| 19:11.25 | jelly | judd: file bin/updatedb |
| 19:11.29 | judd | No packages were found with that file. |
| 19:11.39 | jelly | say what! |
| 19:11.49 | Segaja | jelly: i will try to remove all errors and most of the warnings anyway |
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| 19:12.38 | yagoo | adac, for what? |
| 19:13.03 | jelly | judd: file bin/updatedb.* |
| 19:13.06 | judd | bin/updatedb.* in lenny/i386: mlocate: usr/bin/updatedb.mlocate; locate: usr/bin/updatedb.findutils |
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| 19:13.48 | jelly | adac: there you have it. updatedb is managed via alternatives, as there is more than one package providing it |
| 19:14.22 | jelly | adac: also, /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 19:14.25 | yagoo | jelly, he was more asking for something like, dpkg -S `which updatedb` |
| 19:14.38 | jelly | yagoo: how do you know? |
| 19:15.01 | yagoo | jelly, because apt-file searches for noninstalled |
| 19:15.19 | adac | yagoo, jelly I mean the updatedb that sserves locate for finding files |
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| 19:15.25 | jelly | adac: yes. |
| 19:15.53 | yagoo | adac, dpkg -L <packagename>, is in my reference card too |
| 19:16.00 | nido_ | does anyone happen to know a program that resets the file ownership of a file to the default value? |
| 19:16.01 | yagoo | adac, google debian reference card.. |
| 19:16.06 | yagoo | !refcard |
| 19:16.06 | dpkg | A short reference of Debian commands (quite useful for someone new to Debian) can be found at http://xinocat.com/refcard/ . Packaged for Debian as debian-refcard. Also ask me about <grounding>, <vim refcard>. |
| 19:16.11 | nsadmin | yagoo: as is dpkg --help |
| 19:16.25 | jelly | adac: there are multiple packages providing locate command now, with slightly different features. They are listed above by judd. |
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| 19:16.45 | adac | dpkg -L updatedb |
| 19:16.45 | dpkg | ii updatedb 1.2-3 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 19:16.45 | adac | Package `updatedb' is not installed. |
| 19:17.07 | yagoo | adac, um, updatedb is not a package name.. |
| 19:17.10 | jelly | adac: do you have it installed or not? |
| 19:17.22 | adac | yagoo, Yea so which package contains updatedb |
| 19:17.24 | yagoo | adac, you can find the package name with dpkg -S `which updatedb` |
| 19:17.28 | adac | no it seems not to be installed |
| 19:17.50 | jelly | adac: then read what judd said some 10-20 lines above ^^^ |
| 19:17.56 | yagoo | adac, so try aptitude search updatedb |
| 19:18.20 | adac | aptitude search updatedb |
| 19:18.20 | adac | p nss-updatedb - Cache name service directories in DB format |
| 19:18.24 | yagoo | adac, the better one is like this, |
| 19:18.28 | jelly | adac: mlocate: usr/bin/updatedb.mlocate; locate: usr/bin/updatedb.findutils |
| 19:18.29 | yagoo | adac, aptitude search locate |
| 19:19.02 | yagoo | the one on my system is mlocate |
| 19:19.32 | yagoo | (i also tend to use apt-cache search at times, i believe apt-cache search shows more for a wider variety of keywords) |
| 19:19.40 | adac | yeah mlocate that should be the one |
| 19:20.25 | adac | thx guys. Installing mlocate did the trick |
| 19:20.52 | yagoo | adac, also try what someone else mentioned, go ->file /etc/alternatives/updatedb, and you'll see it points to another |
| 19:21.42 | adac | yagoo, /etc/alternatives/updatedb -> /usr/bin/updatedb.mlocate |
| 19:21.53 | adac | yagoo, after installing mlocate |
| 19:22.15 | adac | ok I see and I can link it there to whatever *locate i want to |
| 19:23.00 | yagoo | I noticed this folks, dpkg -S updatedb, works, but dpkg -S `which updatedb`, doesn't, must be that /etc/alternatives path |
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| 19:27.46 | zmotok | hello everyone, any word about kde 4.4 in sid? |
| 19:27.49 | cheako | Hello, does an1 know how to http://tinyurl.com/yan89qe AND have LF(s) in the resulting string passed to SHELL? |
| 19:28.05 | cheako | rather and/or. |
| 19:28.31 | cheako | http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/manual/make/Splitting-Lines.html#Splitting-Lines |
| 19:29.03 | cheako | More specifically I'd like to put a here document into a makefile. |
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| 19:37.35 | SuperMiguel | whle running ssh - X and viewing vbox over ssh, my sshd process eats lots of memory :( http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2138/screenshot20100324at335.png |
| 19:37.44 | SuperMiguel | 7gb of ram |
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| 19:40.57 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: why do you think that was 7G ? |
| 19:41.14 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: thats 7M |
| 19:41.15 | radoe | SuperMiguel: According to your top output sshd uses a VSZ of 70MB with a RSS of 7MB. |
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| 19:42.53 | yagoo | Superbartt, isnt vnc available for vbox? |
| 19:43.04 | SuperMiguel | valdyn, that aint no 7mb.. i have 16gb of ram.. and sshd was using 7gb :P |
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| 19:43.15 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: your paste showed 7M |
| 19:43.21 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: your picture even |
| 19:43.30 | yagoo | i mean SuperMiguel, isnt vnc avail to vbox? |
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| 19:43.43 | valdyn | using vnc to fix ssh is a broken idea |
| 19:44.07 | yagoo | valdyn, nope |
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| 19:44.32 | SuperMiguel | valdyn, see the first process says VirtualBox 2485.. second process says 69736= 6.9 gb |
| 19:44.43 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: that is not 6.9gb |
| 19:44.54 | GUZT4V0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:44.56 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: top will show you an "m" if its megabyte |
| 19:45.07 | SuperMiguel | valdyn, if it doesnt fit? |
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| 19:45.29 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: it always fits as top converts when it needs to |
| 19:45.37 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: that is why you have a g at the vbox entry |
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| 19:47.02 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: heres my unused sshd's vsz and rss: 49072 1060 |
| 19:47.02 | SuperMiguel | so at the top it says free 348988k. which is 348mb.. whats using my 14.5gb? |
| 19:47.09 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: same order of magnitude |
| 19:47.16 | valdyn | !free ram |
| 19:47.16 | dpkg | Unlike information, your computer's memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux tries to use free physical memory for caching files from disk which speeds up disk access considerably. Linux releases RAM from these caches if programs need it. If you want to know how much physical memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use, it's 'free' + 'buffers' + 'cache'. Also ask me about <swapwake>. |
| 19:47.19 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: read ^^ |
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| 19:47.35 | stealth- | how can I find out info about the cddrive's capabilities from the command line? |
| 19:48.02 | nsadmin | read its manual |
| 19:48.04 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: mind the 10G that you are only used for caches at the moment |
| 19:48.15 | SuperMiguel | valdyn, i think is weird that my system is using the swap file wth 16gb of ram |
| 19:48.25 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: no thats not weird at al |
| 19:48.26 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: no thats not weird at all |
| 19:48.37 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: thats default linux behaviour, and its good like that |
| 19:48.54 | SuperMiguel | valdyn, umm ohh i guess i learn something new everyday :P |
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| 19:49.11 | stealth- | nsadmin: it didn't come with a manual -_- |
| 19:49.12 | yagoo | SuperMiguel, X protocol is not as efficient as NX, which i'm currently using.. (nx uses vnc technology under ssh, but i dont know if u can see vboxes) |
| 19:49.24 | SuperMiguel | valdyn, and u are right 10gb are being used caches |
| 19:49.25 | stealth- | nsadmin: there is way to do it via command line, I just forgot the command |
| 19:49.34 | LtL_ | stealth-: try lshw |
| 19:49.56 | SuperMiguel | valdyn, http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/3682/screenshot20100324at349.png |
| 19:49.59 | nsadmin | stealth-: maybe the device has a manufacturer... maybe the manufacturer has a website... maybe that website has manuals to download |
| 19:50.02 | SuperMiguel | yagoo, u using freenx? |
| 19:50.09 | ozzilee | Can anybody tell me how to revert a configuration file in /etc to the package default? Specifically /etc/exim4/exim4.conf.template |
| 19:50.26 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: do something funny: "echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" |
| 19:50.27 | stealth- | nsadmin: I don't know ANYTHING about this drive. There is absolutely no stickers or anything on it, and it didn't come with the computer. |
| 19:50.29 | yagoo | Superbartt, nx with nomachine.com went open source.. they have full .deb files.. |
| 19:50.42 | yagoo | SuperMiguel, ^ |
| 19:50.50 | daffidity | stealth: dmesg maybe? |
| 19:51.07 | stealth- | LtL_: Thanks, your solution lists it :) |
| 19:51.30 | SuperMiguel | valdyn, ya that cleaned it up :) |
| 19:51.35 | LtL_ | stealth-: welcome, just look up the model. |
| 19:51.50 | SuperMiguel | valdyn, 15.8gb free xD |
| 19:52.20 | nsadmin | yeah, not so sure about that... since you have more info now, maybe you can find and download its manual |
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| 19:52.54 | SuperMiguel | valdyn, is that good? bad? |
| 19:53.09 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: well, caches do have a purpose |
| 19:53.32 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: now whenever you access something that was cached it will have to be load from disk again |
| 19:54.08 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: so your computer will be slower till thats done. That could be huge or barely noteicable |
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| 19:54.17 | SuperMiguel | valdyn, i just have few vms on that system... and i just need to run them as fast as possible |
| 19:54.21 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: depending on workload and what you had cached |
| 19:54.49 | yagoo | SuperMiguel, is it supposed to be a dedicated machine for VMS? you may want to check out xenserver, they went open source several months ago |
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| 19:55.03 | SuperMiguel | valdyn, all vms are windows 2003.. |
| 19:55.29 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: i cant tell you how big the effect is. |
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| 19:55.37 | yagoo | lol |
| 19:55.39 | SuperMiguel | yagoo, this guys: http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/feature.asp?contentID=1686939 ? |
| 19:55.39 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: caches will be back at some point |
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| 19:56.33 | budgee | Peeps, I just installed Debian Lenny on a KVM, updated and install mysql-server. During the install process I was asked to provide a root password, I did that. After installation, there is no root user in the mysql.user and I cannot do anything. I reinstalled the VM from scratch and same. |
| 19:56.39 | yagoo | SuperMiguel, y.. also there's that hyper-v with ms, but i can't say more.. |
| 19:57.02 | yagoo | SuperMiguel, (vbox has command line conversion tools if u need to convert image formats) |
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| 19:57.59 | valdyn | budgee: iirc thats in /usr/share/doc/mysql/README.Debian or somesuch |
| 19:58.11 | valdyn | budgee: so dont reinstall, rtfm pulease |
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| 20:01.16 | budgee | valdyn: well, I thought I might have stuffed up the install somehow and maybe typed the wrong password so before a long runaround, decided to juse reinstall the VM since all that was on it was MySQL |
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| 20:01.26 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: running multiple vms probably gives you huge cpu cache thrashing issues. Someone might have analyzed that - google.. |
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| 20:02.45 | SuperMiguel | valdyn, ya i was reading about that they call it vm cache thrash |
| 20:03.05 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: thats something else |
| 20:03.36 | SuperMiguel | valdyn, so i guess is good to clean up that cache |
| 20:03.42 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: no |
| 20:03.43 | help1234 | php not working, help me |
| 20:03.50 | jelly-hme | SuperMiguel: wrong cache |
| 20:03.59 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: its not good, it slows down everything for a while |
| 20:04.00 | yagoo | SuperMiguel, i would join up with a mailing list and use a dedicated hypervisor |
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| 20:04.22 | valdyn | yagoo: what are you talking about? this isnt related to his tuning of vbox |
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| 20:04.32 | yagoo | valdyn, exactly |
| 20:04.41 | yagoo | valdyn, i wouldn't use vbox |
| 20:04.42 | help1234 | hello |
| 20:05.28 | valdyn | yagoo: xen is being obsoleted by red hat so its probably not the best idea to migrate there either |
| 20:05.43 | yagoo | valdyn, i never mentioned xen |
| 20:05.48 | yagoo | -_ |
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| 20:06.03 | valdyn | yagoo: is there any other hypervisor based virtualisation system? |
| 20:06.12 | yagoo | valdyn, I already mentioned it to him, see above |
| 20:06.52 | SuperMiguel | valdyn, so just delete that drop_cache file? |
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| 20:06.58 | valdyn | yagoo: i see xenserver and ms hyper-v right up there |
| 20:07.06 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: ignore it |
| 20:07.07 | yagoo | valdyn, xen != xenserver |
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| 20:07.22 | yagoo | ok, ignore me then |
| 20:07.40 | valdyn | yagoo: i didnt tell him to ignore you |
| 20:07.48 | SuperMiguel | yagoo, i think he was refering to ignore the 1 inside drop_cache |
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| 20:08.14 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: i just showed you how to flush the cache, but thats not useful for you, that was just a demo what you can do |
| 20:09.15 | f00bar80 | any guide one to build asterisk/freePBX from source on debian-lenny |
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| 20:09.16 | valdyn | "XenServer uses the Xen hypervisor" |
| 20:09.16 | valdyn | geez |
| 20:09.46 | yagoo | valdyn, if you're not really into it, then don't bother.. |
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| 20:10.09 | valdyn | yagoo: xenserver is the productised xen package, its *not* something different |
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| 20:10.42 | Full-Polar-Fox | Lets destroy the google.com too (like wikipedia)? |
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| 20:12.24 | Full-Polar-Fox | !ops | adb |
| 20:12.24 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Alife, Myon, Ganneff, Maulkin, weasel, zobel, themill: full-polar-fox complains about: | adb |
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| 20:14.38 | SuperMiguel | valdyn, so u recommend running vbox? i need to run 4 2003 server, and manage them from a mac system.. I do it know over ssh -X and i kinda works.. its kinda slow i cant use esxi cuz there is no osx client my other option is kvm but not sure how faster for remotelly purposes it will be |
| 20:14.52 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: i have no idea which virtualisation package is best for you |
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| 20:15.44 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: if you are controlling it from a lagged internet link then you should not be using ssh -X |
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| 20:16.05 | valdyn | SuperMiguel: if youre controlling it in a lan then ssh -X is perfectly fine |
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| 20:17.00 | yagoo | SuperMiguel, you can remotely administer xenserver and even hyper-v machines.. |
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| 20:20.07 | valdyn | !hyper-v |
| 20:20.07 | dpkg | Microsoft Hyper-V (formerly Windows Server Virtualization) is a non-free system <virtualization> product, not supported in #debian. An installation procedure for using Debian as a guest operating system is available at http://wiki.debian.org/WindowsServerHyperV . The Hyper-V staging drivers (providing paravirtualization support) are disabled in Debian 2.6.32 kernel image packages, slated for removal from mainline in 2.6.35. |
| 20:20.36 | valdyn | geez |
| 20:20.38 | SuperMiguel | lol |
| 20:20.46 | valdyn | nice factoid |
| 20:20.55 | valdyn | Im not sure its still slated for removal though |
| 20:21.42 | valdyn | !xen |
| 20:21.42 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, xen is an open source virtual machine monitor, intended to run up to 100 full featured OSs on a single computer. OSs must be explicitly modified ("ported") to run on Xen, although compatibility is maintained for user applications. Xen achieves high performance virtualization without special hardware support. For detailed help, see http://wiki.debian.org/Xen . #debian-xen on irc.oftc.net. See also <virtualization>. |
| 20:22.00 | SuperMiguel | 100 full wow |
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| 20:24.59 | Dominicus | I'm trying to secure my user's folders so that other user's can't traverse into them and get ahold of files/data they shouldn't have access to. How do I do that? I've already tweaked adduser.conf, from new user folders being created as 0751 instead of 0755. But, folders created in the user's home folder can be traversed to if the path is known. |
| 20:25.24 | Dominicus | How do I combat this? |
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| 20:27.51 | wols_ | why do you set the 0001 bit? |
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| 20:28.06 | valdyn | Dominicus: your 1 bit do just that |
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| 20:28.56 | ElDiabolo | The recommended way to move to squeeze is still apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
| 20:29.05 | valdyn | ElDiabolo: no |
| 20:29.08 | \amethyst | Dominicus: you might want a default umask of 007, but then note that you'll have to explicitly chmod stuff in public_html (or make the directory setgid www-data) |
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| 20:29.29 | valdyn | ElDiabolo: theres no "recommended way" yet as squeeze is not even close to release |
| 20:29.50 | valdyn | ElDiabolo: but beside that aptitude is the recommended tool |
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| 20:30.14 | ElDiabolo | valdyn: Ok, but it will work. |
| 20:30.21 | valdyn | Dominicus: im not sure why you need to combat this anyway |
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| 20:33.16 | Dominicus | valdyn: User a has a webfolder at /home/a/www, user b has a webfolder at /home/b/www. Merely setting o-r for /home/* doesn't stop a random user from running "ls /home/*/www". Also, any newly created folders are created with world readable settings, so anyone can navigate to them. and read/copy anything resursively in those folders. |
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| 20:35.45 | jok3r | Dominicus, set the mode to -rwx for the all section |
| 20:35.53 | jok3r | and leave it in tact for your groups/owner |
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| 20:39.13 | valdyn | Dominicus: thats the users umask |
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| 20:39.37 | valdyn | Dominicus: i.e. edit /etc/profile |
| 20:39.53 | ElDiabolo | Dominicus: Since these are webfolders apache will need to read them? |
| 20:40.10 | Segaja | hi, if i add dependencies in the control file of a debian package. doesn't dpkg tries to resolve these when i want to install the package? |
| 20:40.11 | Dominicus | ElDiabolo: Yes they are webfolders. |
| 20:40.57 | valdyn | Segaja: dpkg cannot resolve anything |
| 20:41.02 | valdyn | Segaja: apt-get can |
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| 20:42.09 | ElDiabolo | Dominicus: If the groups of a and b are aw and bw, make www-data of these groups. |
| 20:42.36 | Segaja | valdyn: okay. i have a stupid question. how can i install a local .deb file with apt-get? |
| 20:42.37 | ElDiabolo | s/www-data of/www-data a member of/ |
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| 20:42.49 | valdyn | Segaja: thats not worth the trouble |
| 20:42.54 | valdyn | Segaja: just install it via dpkg |
| 20:43.11 | valdyn | Segaja: after that you can run "apt-get -f install" to fix deps |
| 20:43.26 | nsadmin | Segaja: dpkg will just say yes or no |
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| 20:43.38 | valdyn | Segaja: if there are pre-deps though you need to install those with apt-get manually |
| 20:44.03 | Segaja | okay |
| 20:44.17 | Segaja | nsadmin: what do you mean? |
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| 20:44.38 | valdyn | Segaja: to install "local" debs with apt you would need to make them non-local, that is you need to make a repository |
| 20:44.40 | nsadmin | if you create an aptable archive and put your package in there, then apt-get/aptitude will get it |
| 20:44.47 | valdyn | Segaja: and thats not worth the work at all, even if you know how |
| 20:45.18 | Segaja | valdyn: good point |
| 20:45.26 | budgee | valdyn: my /usr/share/doc/mysql-server-5.0/README.Debian.gz has nothing on that issue. |
| 20:45.38 | valdyn | !mysql |
| 20:45.39 | dpkg | MySQL is a fast and reliable open source relational database implementing a large subset of SQL. It is the world's most popular open source database. To install, ask me about <install mysql>. http://wiki.debian.org/MySql http://mysql.com/ #mysql on irc.freenode.net, #debian-mysql on irc.oftc.net. See also <mysql checking>, <mysql memory usage>. |
| 20:45.42 | nsadmin | are you developing a package? |
| 20:45.48 | valdyn | !mysql checking |
| 20:45.48 | dpkg | The init script for mysql says "Checking for corrupt, not cleanly closed and upgrade needing tables". While this sounds alarming, it is perfectly normal and you will see it every time. |
| 20:45.51 | nsadmin | that would make it worth doing |
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| 20:46.56 | ElDiabolo | budgee: Which issue? |
| 20:46.58 | nsadmin | if it's just a one-shot and all you want to do is install the package once and then forget it, it's probably not worth aptizing |
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| 20:47.47 | nsadmin | which is like baptizing without water |
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| 20:48.56 | edju | trying to install nvidia on squeeze. I got to the m-a a-i part and it fails - no headers - and says to install linux-headers-2.6.32-trunk-686, which errors out - no such package. Any advice appreciated. |
| 20:49.20 | rvsjoen | m-a prepare ? |
| 20:49.35 | edju | rvsjoen, I did that. |
| 20:49.41 | valdyn | !mysql initial password |
| 20:49.42 | dpkg | if you've never set a password for mysql before then you can run: /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root password 'enter-your-good-new-password-here'; if you have set a password before, ask me about <forgot mysql root password> |
| 20:49.56 | rvsjoen | did you do an aptitude update ? |
| 20:50.00 | valdyn | oo, hes gone |
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| 20:50.23 | edju | rvsjoen, yep. I followed dpkg's directions. |
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| 20:50.54 | valdyn | edju: use the "real" 2.6.32 kernel from squeeze |
| 20:50.59 | xxrobixx | buona sera |
| 20:51.11 | valdyn | edju: ( not trunk ) |
| 20:51.14 | karlpinc | !it |
| 20:51.14 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
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| 20:51.40 | edju | valdyn, OK. will try. Thanks. |
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| 20:53.40 | qfr | uname -a: Linux niflheim 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Nov 4 20:45:37 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux; cat /etc/debian_version: 5.0.3 |
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| 20:53.54 | qfr | I need at least 2.6.30 for the new hardware to work - what should I do? |
| 20:54.00 | qfr | Will apt-get dist-upgrade cut it? |
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| 20:54.41 | JPT | i don't think that debian stable has 2.6.30 already |
| 20:55.11 | valdyn | qfr: dont |
| 20:55.15 | valdyn | !backports |
| 20:55.15 | dpkg | from memory, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.org/. Ask me about <backports.org> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 20:55.16 | nsadmin | dist-upgrade? in order to get the new kernel in the same dist? |
| 20:55.25 | valdyn | !tell qfr -about backports.org |
| 20:55.41 | valdyn | qfr: theres kernels up to 2.6.32 in backports.org |
| 20:55.46 | nsadmin | judd kernels |
| 20:55.47 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.33-2-686 (2.6.33-1~experimental.4); sid: 2.6.32-4-686 (2.6.32-10); squeeze: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.3-686 (2.6.32-9~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-21lenny4); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
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| 20:56.00 | budgee | dpkg: !mysql |
| 20:56.00 | dpkg | budgee: are you using Windows? |
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| 20:56.15 | valdyn | !mysql initial password |
| 20:56.15 | dpkg | if you've never set a password for mysql before then you can run: /usr/bin/mysqladmin -u root password 'enter-your-good-new-password-here'; if you have set a password before, ask me about <forgot mysql root password> |
| 20:56.19 | valdyn | budgee: ^^ |
| 20:56.33 | budgee | !mysql |
| 20:56.33 | dpkg | MySQL is a fast and reliable open source relational database implementing a large subset of SQL. It is the world's most popular open source database. To install, ask me about <install mysql>. http://wiki.debian.org/MySql http://mysql.com/ #mysql on irc.freenode.net, #debian-mysql on irc.oftc.net. See also <mysql checking>, <mysql memory usage>. |
| 20:56.52 | nsadmin | budgee: you should at some point consider comparing postgres to mysql |
| 20:57.07 | valdyn | !why not mysql |
| 20:57.11 | valdyn | oo |
| 20:57.24 | valdyn | !why-not-mysql |
| 20:57.24 | dpkg | why-not-mysql is, like, http://openacs.org/philosophy/why-not-mysql.html |
| 20:57.27 | budgee | valdyn: yes, thank you. i read that but that assumes that root exists in the mysl.user table so the password can be set. |
| 20:57.27 | nsadmin | !mysql gotchas |
| 20:57.27 | dpkg | i guess mysql gotchas is http://sql-info.de/mysql/gotchas.html |
| 20:57.47 | nsadmin | note there are also postgres gotchas |
| 20:57.53 | budgee | valdyn: in this case, not, the only one is debian-sys-maint which does not have GRANT |
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| 20:58.18 | budgee | nsadmin: pgsql is great. unfortunately i am deploying to spec and mysql is what has been requested. |
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| 20:59.02 | nsadmin | ok cool :) so you already did "compare" |
| 20:59.50 | budgee | nsadmin: yep, this is just really weird. i swear i have installed mysql in Debian a hundred times. i've never seen the root user not created. |
| 21:00.14 | budgee | nsadmin: no idea if it might be because it is inside a KVM but can not find any reason why that would be |
| 21:00.39 | nsadmin | I wouldn't think that's the reason either |
| 21:01.18 | nsadmin | unless it has anything to do with networking/hostname, but that's a stretch |
| 21:01.25 | ElDiabolo | budgee: How did you check for roots existence? |
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| 21:01.48 | budgee | nsadmin: i started with a 64-bit stacklem qemu image. updated, rebooted and installed mysql. |
| 21:02.09 | budgee | ElDiabolo: using debian-sys-maint user which can view but not modify the mysql..user table. |
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| 21:03.03 | qfr | valdyn: I'm puzzled - how does this help me with getting hardware working which didn't work properly in 2.6.26? |
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| 21:03.18 | qfr | I read you need at least 2.6.30 for this particular Atheros card |
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| 21:03.25 | qfr | Current kernel recommended |
| 21:03.48 | JPT | you could just download it from kernel.org and compile it.. |
| 21:03.56 | valdyn | qfr: you want a new kernel, backports.org has new kernels for you |
| 21:04.00 | JPT | using make-kpkg, you can create a *.deb package that you can easily install |
| 21:04.03 | jelly-hme | ,kernels |
| 21:04.03 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.33-2-686 (2.6.33-1~experimental.4); sid: 2.6.32-4-686 (2.6.32-10); squeeze: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.3-686 (2.6.32-9~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-21lenny4); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 21:04.04 | nsadmin | qfr: as yo saw before, 2.6.32 is in backports |
| 21:04.19 | nsadmin | yea yea old news :) |
| 21:04.20 | Dominicus | ElDiabolo: So, from what I've gather from this channel (and a quick google), I need to change /etc/profile to have umask be 0027 instead of 0022, so that other users can't snoop around the home folder. So, do I just need to put user A and user B into the www-data group? If so, what folder should I change the group of to www-data? |
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| 21:05.33 | Dominicus | ElDiabolo: This whole balancing of security with make subfolders sharable via apache is a bit daunting to the inexperienced (*cough me*). |
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| 21:06.02 | devin_ | unmet dependencies: libgd2-noxpm: Conflicts: libgd2 which is a virtual package Conflicts: libgd2-xpm but 2.0.36~rc1~dfsg-3.1 is to be installed. |
| 21:06.08 | nsadmin | maybe you want www-data members to be able to write |
| 21:06.15 | devin_ | anyone using squeeze getting this? |
| 21:06.47 | ElDiabolo | Dominicus: No, the other way round. The webfolders need to have per user groups and the www-data user has to be a member of those groups. |
| 21:06.49 | babilen | !tell devin_ -about bat |
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| 21:07.05 | babilen | devin_: Please provide all information specified by dpkg .. |
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| 21:07.25 | ElDiabolo | Dominicus: It would be best if there where a-www and b-www groups for that. |
| 21:07.37 | budgee | ElDiabolo: any ideas? (nsadmin / valdyn) |
| 21:08.07 | valdyn | budgee: did you try to regenerate that table? ( dpkg-reconfigure ) ? |
| 21:08.30 | nsadmin | oh, I have a q too, my uname -r is 2.6.26-2-xen-686, I have an amd64x2 and so far when I plug in usb devices it crashes (but my kbd/mouse works, this is my phone and a usb storage device that is crashing it) |
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| 21:08.54 | ElDiabolo | budgee: No. There is a skript for install user creation AFAIK. Maybe that failed. |
| 21:09.20 | nsadmin | skript for ciddies? |
| 21:10.51 | Dominicus | ElDiabolo: Oh, well that makes more sense. The first time you explained it, it was hard to interpret =(. So, would I want the /home/A folder to have its group set ti "a-www"? Or should I do that for JUST the /home/a/www folder? |
| 21:11.20 | ElDiabolo | Dominicus: Its /usr/share/mysql/mysql_system_tables_data.sql Maybe check that. |
| 21:11.57 | ElDiabolo | Dominicus: Just the /home/a/www folder. |
| 21:12.07 | budgee | valdyn: dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0 presents blue password prompt but does not work |
| 21:12.24 | budgee | valdyn: ie. accepts new password but does not resolve issue. |
| 21:12.34 | ElDiabolo | Dominicus: The groups a-www and b-www should not have write permission. |
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| 21:13.15 | ElDiabolo | Dominicus: Intranet or internet? |
| 21:13.18 | Dominicus | ElDiabolo: Sounds good. It's just for the files to be readable and served up by the webserver. Would that negatively impact php in those www folders? |
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| 21:13.47 | ElDiabolo | Dominicus: Probably no. But I tend to avoid php ... |
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| 21:14.15 | budgee | valdyn / ElDiabolo: ok, i got it. mysql cannot write to /tmp |
| 21:14.26 | Dominicus | ElDiabolo: Internet. High School Web Design Competition. So, I'm trying to harden the box so they can't sneak peaks at other team's work. There's cash involved, so I don't want some whiner giving me a headache because someone cheats. |
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| 21:14.48 | hello_kitty | http://www.e-castig.com/index.php?r=HzkN i just need couple more clicks , please help me, this is the last time i'm sending this :)))))))))) |
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| 21:14.51 | nsadmin | budgee: could you show: ls -ld /tmp |
| 21:14.58 | ice799 | Hi. I'm using Debian Lenny and I have a cron job that doesn't appear to be running. Probably something is broken. I don't see a /var/log/cron.log , though. Any hints on how to turn on cron logging so I can debug this problem? |
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| 21:15.24 | budgee | nsadmin: drwxr-xr-x |
| 21:15.32 | nsadmin | oh? |
| 21:15.35 | budgee | nsadmin: should be drwxrwxrwt |
| 21:15.37 | nsadmin | that's /tmp? |
| 21:15.40 | budgee | nsadmin: right? |
| 21:15.41 | nsadmin | right |
| 21:15.51 | nsadmin | 1777 |
| 21:15.52 | budgee | nsadmin: how do i set the t? |
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| 21:16.01 | budgee | nsadmin: ok thanks :) |
| 21:16.07 | ElDiabolo | Dominicus: You have experience setting up apache? |
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| 21:16.22 | nsadmin | or more portably, 01777 |
| 21:16.46 | mr_danie1 | I just installed proftpd through 'apt-get proftpd' to figure out that I don't need a ftp server ... |
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| 21:17.08 | ice799 | oh I see. rsyslog or something. |
| 21:17.29 | jelly-hme | ice799: aye, it's disabled by default |
| 21:17.34 | mr_danie1 | my problem: apt-get remove proftpd isn't enough to remove the ftp server, because also other package have been installed, but I didn't know anymore how the names of the packages are |
| 21:18.02 | nsadmin | t is 01000, setuid is 04000, setgid is 02000 |
| 21:18.12 | mr_danie1 | how can I figure this out? And how can I remove proftpd 'cleanly', so that no unnecessary package lie on my machine? |
| 21:18.23 | jelly-hme | and why is t t and not sticky? |
| 21:18.31 | valdyn | mr_danie1: you should be using aptitude |
| 21:18.41 | valdyn | mr_danie1: if you want that behaviour |
| 21:18.41 | nsadmin | sTicky? |
| 21:18.46 | jelly-hme | finger |
| 21:19.10 | ice799 | jelly-hme: Is it, um, allowed for cron entries in cron.d to quote the command? For example: */30 * * * * dev "ENV_VAR=whatever some_long_command with spaces" ? |
| 21:19.15 | Dominicus | ElDiabolo: Yep, it's all prepped up. htpasswd to a flatfile (just 25 teams so nothing intense needing a database), user authentication is configured for each individual team's personal webfolder shared to ~team##, and an additional user for the judges to authenticate as to view any website during and after the competition. I might create a custom error page for giggles, but only if i have time. |
| 21:19.27 | valdyn | mr_danie1: read /var/log/dpkg.log to see what got installed |
| 21:19.39 | the_guv | mr_danie1: sudo aptitude purge proftpd |
| 21:19.55 | valdyn | using aptitude *now* does not fix this |
| 21:20.06 | jelly-hme | ice799: the command will be run by sh -c, you don't need quotes. |
| 21:20.13 | mr_danie1 | ok, in the future I'll use aptitude |
| 21:20.17 | Dominicus | ElDiabolo: I had apache config experience a while back, but not nearly enough system administration experience (involving other users anyway). |
| 21:20.17 | mr_danie1 | thanks valdyn and the_guv |
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| 21:20.32 | valdyn | mr_danie1: and apt-get supports this too, but only after lenny |
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| 21:20.58 | Dominicus | valdyn and ElDiabolo: Thanks for filling in those information gaps of mine. = |
| 21:21.17 | valdyn | Dominicus: welcome |
| 21:21.26 | ice799 | jelly-hme: OK. I guess I'll hang in there, should be another cron cycle in a few minutes for this job. Hopefully some diagnostic output will end up in /var/log/cron.log |
| 21:21.27 | budgee | nsadmin: grr... still not setting it... |
| 21:21.47 | budgee | nsadmin: gonna try uninstall mysql completely. |
| 21:21.52 | nsadmin | Dominicus sysadmin is sorta coplike, but the main gig is letting users use shared resources without being able to changes things about them |
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| 21:22.23 | nsadmin | you may already know that purge is more complete than remove |
| 21:23.02 | valdyn | both cannot remove the existing dbs though |
| 21:23.15 | valdyn | the postinst script could, but i dont know if it does that |
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| 21:23.23 | valdyn | err, postrm |
| 21:23.35 | budgee | nsadmin: valdyn: aptitude purge mysql-server-5.0 && rm -r /etc/mysql && rm -r /var/lib/mysql |
| 21:23.51 | valdyn | budgee: no |
| 21:24.04 | valdyn | budgee: skip the etc part |
| 21:24.09 | budgee | ok |
| 21:24.13 | valdyn | budgee: if its still there then you didnt purge the proper package |
| 21:24.20 | nsadmin | which may account for why the passwd keeps not getting set... btw, anyone look for a matching situation on bts? |
| 21:24.21 | valdyn | budgee: then the config is in a seperate package |
| 21:24.21 | budgee | ok |
| 21:24.36 | ice799 | jelly-hme: On second though, I probably need to use env, right? Since it looks like sh -c will try to execute ENV_VAR and fail. |
| 21:24.39 | valdyn | budgee: i have no idea where it actually is, but removing etc stuff manually would mislead you |
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| 21:25.23 | jelly-hme | ice799: env FOO=blah cmd will definitely work; I'm not sure if FOO=blah cmd does |
| 21:25.31 | ice799 | ok |
| 21:25.37 | ice799 | thanks, jelly-hme. |
| 21:25.47 | ice799 | I'll give it a shot and hopefully get some log messages |
| 21:26.02 | jelly-hme | ice799: I usually set up env. vars at the beginning of crontab file\ |
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| 21:26.11 | budgee | valdyn: aptitude purge mysql-server-5.0 prompted for removal of DBs (to which I agreed). Removed /var/lib/mysql and all that is left is /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| 21:26.15 | ice799 | can you do that with filess in cron.d ? |
| 21:26.21 | ice799 | er, that was for jelly-hme. |
| 21:26.40 | jelly-hme | hm, dunno that either :-) |
| 21:26.47 | ice799 | I figured that if it is switching users to the user you specify t |
| 21:26.53 | ice799 | that you will get a "clean" env |
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| 21:27.01 | budgee | valdyn: apt-cache search my.cnf says mysql-common |
| 21:27.02 | halflife08 | hello, i was told to run memtest for 24 hrs when i reported i was getting errors like gdmgreeter [3072] segfault at b497b992 ip b497b996 error 6 in libxml2.so.2.7.6[b6e0c000+123000] . i was able to run it for 14hrs and no erros were reported. i threw in a spare disk and did a new installation of testing (netinstall) and that installation works just fine. i was wondering if there are other recommendations on solving this problem. hardware dell latitude |
| 21:27.04 | halflife08 | laptop , tracking testing. i did also shutdown the laptop pulled out the ram modules and clean the ram slots as well. thank you. |
| 21:27.37 | budgee | valdyn: purged that |
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| 21:27.56 | jelly-hme | halflife08: if the segfault always happens for the same binary at the same place, it might be just buggy |
| 21:28.13 | nsadmin | so if memtest ran for that long you've probably ruled out a lot of hw... cpu, ram, mobo, video and maybe others |
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| 21:29.10 | budgee | valdyn: nsadmin: ElDiabolo: thanks, sorted. |
| 21:29.30 | nsadmin | oh it worked? |
| 21:29.56 | nsadmin | you know, maybe debian needs a checker daemon that looks at things like /tmp perms on say a daily basis |
| 21:30.34 | extor | is it possible to take files off an install DVD, throw them on the lan and have your own debian mirror or am I missing a step? |
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| 21:31.27 | wols | !aptoncd |
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| 21:31.30 | budgee | nsadmin: yes, correcting perms on /tmp and then removing mysql-server-5.0 and mysql-common and reinstalling mysql-server worked. |
| 21:31.46 | wols | extor: it is possible |
| 21:31.47 | nsadmin | excellent |
| 21:33.14 | extor | wols, I did it but it doesnt recognize |
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| 21:37.20 | halflife08 | jelly-hme: would i then file a bug ? i can't see to reproduce it on another install of testing |
| 21:37.52 | halflife08 | nevermind i take that back. that didn't make sense |
| 21:38.28 | jelly-hme | halflife08: testing? upgrade and see if anything changes |
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| 21:43.51 | crazygir | hiya! I installed debian --> CF, and I'm getting an error when booting (not the clearest error, and I still need to copy it down by hand). QUESTION: how would I verify the device ID for grub, for this CF card? |
| 21:45.31 | karlpinc | crazygir: I've had problems with CF. Only sandisk and 2 other manufacturers support the ide standard well enough to boot from cf. The other's make cards that sorta work, but not ask disks. |
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| 21:45.42 | karlpinc | s/ask/as/ |
| 21:46.07 | crazygir | I haven't had an issue with CF on BSD |
| 21:46.12 | crazygir | (booting) |
| 21:46.21 | karlpinc | crazygir: Then it should work. |
| 21:46.26 | crazygir | karlpinc: this isa kingston disk |
| 21:46.41 | crazygir | karlpinc: how do I figure out the device ID though? |
| 21:46.49 | karlpinc | crazygir: kingston was not on my list. |
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| 21:47.06 | karlpinc | crazygir: Grub 1? The info page has the commands, one will probe and list all the devices. |
| 21:47.14 | crazygir | thanks! |
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| 21:54.08 | dobie_gillis | what is the latest kernel for testing? 2.6.32-3-686 or 2.6.32-trunk-686? |
| 21:54.36 | zinx | whatever linux-image-686 depends on |
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| 21:55.00 | Dominicus | Can someone explain to me under what circumstances I shouldn't be able to change the group of a subfolder in my home folder to a group that I am a part of (not my primary group, but an additional group)? I.e. "chown user1:user1-www www"... but it returns "chown: changing ownership of `www': Operation not permitted". |
| 21:55.06 | dobie_gillis | zinx: okay thanks |
| 21:55.26 | Dominicus | I just created the folder just prior to attempting to change its group. |
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| 21:56.04 | zinx | Dominicus: if you use xfs with that feature enabled, you will be able to do it. otherwise, you can not. |
| 21:56.30 | crazygir | ok, so I can actually boot off the CF card, but after loading the kernel, the kernel freaks with: "unable to enumerate usb device on port 6" then iterates through a set of other messages |
| 21:56.36 | Dominicus | zinx: Why would I need to privilege escalate to root just to change the group of something? |
| 21:56.45 | Dominicus | Something that I already own. |
| 21:56.54 | zinx | Dominicus: Yes. |
| 21:57.05 | dgeary2 | Dominicus, try what happens when you try chgrp? |
| 21:57.16 | zinx | Dominicus: it's due to some applications checking the ownership of files to verify authenticity |
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| 22:02.19 | qfr | I added deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free to the sources and ran apt-get update |
| 22:02.24 | qfr | W: GPG error: http://www.backports.org lenny-backports Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EA8E8B2116BA136C |
| 22:02.24 | qfr | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 22:02.32 | qfr | Following the instructions from http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions |
| 22:02.48 | qfr | is this a problem? Did it reject the source? |
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| 22:03.18 | Dominicus | dgeary2: When I "chgrp user1-www www", I get "chgrp: changing group of `www': Operation not permitted". But, i just realized what the problem is. I haven't reconnected since I made the user1-www group to begin with. I just ssh'd in again, and it works fine. It's a shame that neither "chown" or "chgrp" display an appropriate error message. Sorry bout that. Either way, lesson learned. lol |
| 22:04.18 | Dominicus | Where is group information cached, and is the only way to refresh that data cache achievable by disconnecting, and reconnecting? |
| 22:04.28 | zinx | Dominicus: you can't change something to a group you're not part of, or a user that you aren't |
| 22:04.37 | zinx | Dominicus: groups don't get set except when you log in |
| 22:04.44 | zinx | Dominicus: the error message was correct |
| 22:04.44 | whatt_ | Hi guys I got a problem. Installed debian squeeze today with my older /home ext4. Everything was workin correctly but now that I rebooted it says that can't load nautilus and so I cannot use the system. |
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| 22:05.47 | zinx | Dominicus: groups aren't really "cached", login just starts your shell with a certain set of groups, and all programs run by it inherit the permissions of the parent app (unless they are suid/sgid) |
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| 22:06.07 | Dominicus | zinx: The error message said that it wasn't permitted, but it didn't say WHY it wasn't permitted. That's the problem. |
| 22:06.28 | zinx | Dominicus: it doesn't know why it wasn't permitted |
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| 22:08.13 | qfr | nsadmin: apt-get install linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.2-686 is what I want? |
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| 22:08.25 | qfr | (from a glance at apt-cache search 2.6.32) |
| 22:08.52 | whatt_ | how can I install squeeze from scratch ( I mean using my existing ext4 /home ) without installing d5 and updating repos? |
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| 22:13.39 | qfr | W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/e100/d102e_ucode.bin for module e100 |
| 22:13.43 | dkr | whuuu: install to / and after complete, edit fstab to mount old /home? |
| 22:13.43 | qfr | This doesn't look good |
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| 22:14.17 | qfr | valdyn: maybe backporting wasn't such a great idea after all :| |
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| 22:35.17 | Full-Polar-Fox | Hellooo :) |
| 22:35.43 | zleap | hello |
| 22:35.49 | zleap | hows you Full-Polar-Fox |
| 22:36.07 | Full-Polar-Fox | I am eating cornflakes, do you? |
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| 22:37.22 | edju | Went to install nvidia on squeeze, following the instructions per dpkg. It proceeded w/o errors, but X fails - " Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module." Any advice, hints, pointers, appreciated. |
| 22:38.17 | Full-Polar-Fox | edju I appreciate you, really :) |
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| 22:39.43 | Full-Polar-Fox | n4v4r3d bluedrops Hello :) hows you? |
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| 22:40.23 | Titan8990 | edju: what happens if you try to manually load the module? |
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| 22:40.48 | Full-Polar-Fox | n4v4r3d Were are you from? |
| 22:41.10 | the|herbivore | edju: modprobe -v nvidia? |
| 22:41.10 | Full-Polar-Fox | n4v4r3d you have such strange login... |
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| 22:41.36 | zleap | Full-Polar-Fox, prefer weetabix, but i like frosties, |
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| 22:42.08 | Titan8990 | points to #debian-offtopic |
| 22:42.16 | jhutchins_lt | If you guys want ot do social, how about #debian-offtopic? This channel is for support. |
| 22:42.21 | Full-Polar-Fox | n4v4r3d Cool, I like your date (phiniks) |
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| 22:43.23 | Full-Polar-Fox | n4v4r3d I am fine. I am from Russia |
| 22:43.26 | edju | the|herbivore, I don.t know, I'm not on that system now. I'll have to disconnect an come back. |
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| 22:43.38 | dondelelcaro | Full-Polar-Fox, n4v4r3d: use #debian-offtopic if you must continue |
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| 22:47.07 | TauPan | hi |
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| 22:48.14 | TauPan | xlsfonts and xfontsel both list fonts that aren't installed on my system. I tried several things including /usr/bin/defoma-app -v update fontconfig and /usr/bin/defoma-app -v update x-ttcidfont-conf but I can't get rid of them. |
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| 22:49.54 | TauPan | xfontsel example text is empty for those fonts and the dropdown menus aren't cleared in the example text drawable |
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| 23:11.32 | Kryll | can someone tell me how to remove x windows from my maching |
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| 23:15.06 | extor | Is there any easy way to run a deb mirror off a centos server? |
| 23:15.57 | Titan8990 | extor: not as easy as having apt-mirror but it can over rsync + http or ftp |
| 23:16.20 | extor | yeah I want to set up an http share so I can install via PXE |
| 23:16.34 | extor | That's trivial in centos I'm shocked at how hard it is in debian |
| 23:16.47 | Titan8990 | !install guide |
| 23:16.47 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0.4) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual . See also <errata> and <installer firmware>. |
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| 23:17.02 | Titan8990 | extor: had you read the PXE section of the install guide? |
| 23:17.56 | extor | Titan8990, yes I have read it. |
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| 23:18.40 | extor | I am able to boot the installer just fine. The probem starts when the installer wants to know which mirror to install from and I type 192.168.1.10/debian and it says something about it not being a legit mirror |
| 23:19.17 | Titan8990 | extor: use an internet mirror |
| 23:19.32 | Titan8990 | !mirror |
| 23:19.33 | dpkg | i guess debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/, see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <mirror size>. |
| 23:19.49 | extor | Titan8990, I'd rather not since I am going to be installing over and over and over again |
| 23:19.57 | extor | Also I dont have NAT set up correctly either |
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| 23:21.44 | Titan8990 | extor: use alt+f3 (maybe f2) and report the debugging info the installer gives about the repo |
| 23:21.49 | Titan8990 | extor: also, how did you create it? |
| 23:23.03 | extor | I just copied the DVD over--not the proper way |
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| 23:23.58 | Titan8990 | not at all |
| 23:24.08 | tempano | Hi! |
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| 23:25.22 | Titan8990 | extor: http://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror |
| 23:26.12 | extor | Titan8990, yeah that's a bit complicated but I might tr it anyway |
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| 23:27.46 | Titan8990 | !debstats lenny |
| 23:28.00 | Titan8990 | !debstats |
| 23:28.00 | dpkg | debstats is managed by sussudio, http://debstats.dontexist.org/ (#debian FN) and http://members.ziggo.nl/sussudio/debian-oftc.html (#debian OFTC) |
| 23:28.34 | llimeht | !dstats lenny |
| 23:28.34 | Titan8990 | !dstats lenny |
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| 23:28.53 | PolarTroll | Hi! |
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| 23:29.14 | dpkg | Debian Distro Stats on lenny... 22961 packages, 1933 maintainers, 59139 MB installed size, 20843 MB compressed size. |
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| 23:31.39 | metbsd | is there chinese channel for debian |
| 23:31.52 | llimeht | !zh |
| 23:31.52 | dpkg | i heard cn is China, or for help in chinese please join irc.oftc.net #debian-zh, Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE è¿æ¸¡æå¼å§ï¼è¯¦æ请é读 |
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| 23:33.09 | llimeht | metbsd: different network -- irc.oftc.net |
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| 23:41.39 | markinfo | I am suspending my laptop without problems but on next stat there is always system new started not waked, Are there needed some parameters for Kernel in Grub? |
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| 23:42.05 | markinfo | I have debian/testing |
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| 23:42.44 | markinfo | something like "resume=some_image" |
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| 23:57.50 | SuperMiguel | is there some kind of apache ssh client? |
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| 23:59.30 | remu | Hello Folks, I used Ubuntu for a year and a half, and have been using ArchLinux for a year after that. I would like to switch over to Debian, I've read http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html regarding sid, but was wondering where I could get information for running testing and getting a package or two from sid. I will need to get the non-free nvidia drivers from sid, as the versions in testing will not work for me. |
