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| 00:13.22 | dutchfish | ad13: if you are brave enough http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonBuildHowTo |
| 00:14.22 | ad13 | dutchfish: cheers, i saw that. but even then, that driver doesn't have 3D support for the HD5850 :( |
| 00:14.56 | dutchfish | ad13: http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature |
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| 00:15.39 | ad13 | yeah, the HD5850 is Evergreen, the one with all the red/yellow in it :p |
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| 00:16.36 | dutchfish | ad13: you need to be a bit patient, prolly when 2.6.34 hits stable or a bit later |
| 00:17.15 | ad13 | yeah, although looking at the R600/700 it might be a bit longer than 2.6.34 |
| 00:17.25 | abrotman | hits what? |
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| 00:34.01 | dbbolton | my laptop will sporadically shut off, or the image on the screen will freeze. i cleaned all the heatsinks and fans. the last time it shut itself off, sensors reported core 0 at 45 degrees celsius. what else could be the problem |
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| 00:35.02 | monkeytwin | does anyone know what font and fontsize "pterm" uses ? |
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| 00:40.35 | marianoguerra | hi, how do I change the display driver on debian squeeze? I tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but nothing happens |
| 00:41.20 | ad13 | on squeeze xorg is configured automatically |
| 00:41.34 | ad13 | you'll need to generate an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and put the driver in there |
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| 00:41.54 | dbbolton | marianoguerra: run "X -configure" as root to generate a generic config file |
| 00:42.16 | marianoguerra | does it still work with the new X.org? |
| 00:42.46 | marianoguerra | it's been a long time since I played with X but isn't that the new X doesn't use the xorg.conf? |
| 00:42.59 | ad13 | it doesn't need it, but it uses it if it's there |
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| 00:47.39 | eonbluez | bonk bonk zooosh nert |
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| 01:36.37 | Zharf | r |
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| 01:38.09 | ntsasng | i can't saved resolv.conf |
| 01:38.15 | ntsasng | help plz |
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| 01:42.56 | Alam_Squeeze | ntsasng: do you modify resolv.conf as root? is the package resolvconf installed? |
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| 01:43.50 | ntsasng | Alam_Squeeze: i've just remove resolvconf |
| 01:44.14 | Alam_Squeeze | ntsasng: why did you remove it? |
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| 01:44.43 | ntsasng | before it make an erro for my Computer |
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| 01:55.04 | ntsasng | somebody help me |
| 01:55.05 | ntsasng | :| |
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| 02:03.26 | ntsasng | i'm using sudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf -->>You do not have the permissions necessary to save the file. Please check that you typed the location correctly and try again. |
| 02:05.41 | eonbluez | lsattr /etc/resolv.conf |
| 02:05.47 | eonbluez | does it show immutable? |
| 02:07.10 | jhutchins_lt | eonbluez: What should lsattr show? I'm getting nothing but dashes. |
| 02:07.49 | eonbluez | yeah that's good -- you don't see an i or an a? |
| 02:07.54 | eonbluez | like -----i---a--- |
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| 02:08.05 | eonbluez | that would mean it's immutable |
| 02:08.09 | eonbluez | and unapendable |
| 02:08.15 | eonbluez | either of which would make it unwritable |
| 02:08.29 | eonbluez | all -'s means it should be writable |
| 02:08.32 | johni | is it possible to add packages in an arbitrary category with reprepro? For some reasons all my packages go into devel/main |
| 02:09.17 | eonbluez | ls -l /etc/resolv.conf too and make sure its chmod 644 |
| 02:09.46 | Riviera | eonbluez: a rather is append only |
| 02:10.06 | eonbluez | ah that's right |
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| 02:10.16 | jhutchins_lt | What utility is used to set those additional attributes? |
| 02:10.21 | eonbluez | chattr |
| 02:10.45 | eonbluez | chattr +i sets immutable |
| 02:10.48 | eonbluez | chattr -i unsets |
| 02:10.51 | jhutchins_lt | This is what I love about #debian. I've been admining linux for 15 years, and I learn stuff here every day. |
| 02:10.53 | eonbluez | same for other flags |
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| 02:11.16 | eonbluez | i use chattr and lsattr on a daily basis |
| 02:11.24 | eonbluez | sysadmin for a hosting company |
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| 02:11.50 | near | hello |
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| 02:15.44 | jhutchins_lt | I built firewalls for homes and small businesses for a while before they were available as appliances. I've managed a few commercial webservers, a small law office's samba backend and firewall, and worked for a company that did a fairly elaborate POS system, some 200 sites. |
| 02:16.24 | jhutchins_lt | I've been all linux at home since 2004. |
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| 02:17.01 | eonbluez | im glad i got out of the onsite work |
| 02:17.13 | eonbluez | i used to do that sort of work too |
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| 02:17.34 | eonbluez | i've been using linux since 97 but have always had at least one windows system around |
| 02:17.57 | eonbluez | i use linux for my primary desktop, notebook and netbook |
| 02:18.10 | eonbluez | and windows for a media center -- still not a fan of mythtv but its getting better |
| 02:18.11 | jhutchins_lt | When I upgraded my system so it would run Xwindows, the hardware wouldn't work with Win95 any more, and I never went back. |
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| 02:18.35 | jhutchins_lt | eonbluez: I hear good things about boxee. |
| 02:19.28 | stealth- | In grub, if I set vga=ask, it pops up a nice menu at boot and I find the 346 option works excellent for me, however if I add vga=346, I don't see anything at all on bootup. Anyone know how I can get this to work without having to specify it every time? |
| 02:19.40 | eonbluez | i may have to look into it sometime -- i don't really use the media pc much these days |
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| 02:23.40 | near | is there a way to install all the extra packages from the debian dvd alltogether with apt-get ? |
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| 02:25.02 | jhutchins_lt | stealth-: That's strange, it seems like that would be the correct way to handle it. |
| 02:25.21 | jhutchins_lt | stealth-: You meay need to ask again when the european contingent is awake. |
| 02:25.49 | stealth- | heh. Okay, thanks |
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| 02:27.23 | Chazz | Where does Debian store the default content (Default wallpaper, Gnome theme, content in ~, etc.) for a new user profile? |
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| 02:28.01 | peterrooney | near: it's not possible (or desireable) to install `all' packages. |
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| 02:29.57 | peterrooney | near: you might benefit from running tasksel, which combines large groups of related packages. |
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| 02:30.10 | near | i see |
| 02:30.23 | peterrooney | near: what are you trying to do? |
| 02:30.26 | near | it was just curiosity |
| 02:30.28 | near | for example |
| 02:30.33 | near | i had a harsh time installing flash |
| 02:30.39 | near | for google chrome |
| 02:30.56 | near | had to add a repository for non free programs and download its keygen etc |
| 02:30.58 | peterrooney | near: i blame adobe and google :) |
| 02:31.06 | near | and until i knew that it took serveral failed attempts xD |
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| 02:33.32 | near | lol |
| 02:33.38 | near | well i entered here to ask something particular |
| 02:33.55 | near | im trying to build a small net of vms |
| 02:33.59 | near | like 4 in my computer |
| 02:34.06 | near | an apache server, a database server etc |
| 02:34.16 | near | i tried vmware server 2 in ubuntu and it sucked |
| 02:34.32 | near | i didn-t like ubuntu that much so im now in debian |
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| 02:34.38 | near | what program for vms would you recommend? |
| 02:34.44 | near | i-ve got intel vtx |
| 02:35.50 | petemc_ | xen or kvm are popular |
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| 02:37.31 | jhutchins_lt | near: It might be educational to start out without preconceptions of which packages you wanted, and just go with what tasks you want to accomplish and see what the defaults do for you. |
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| 02:39.14 | jhutchins_lt | near: Seriously, if you thought vmware server sucked in ubuntu, you're not going to be happy with any vm software on any platform. |
| 02:39.26 | petemc_ | isnt installing packages the first part regardless? |
| 02:39.40 | jhutchins_lt | aptitude install <package> |
| 02:39.41 | Gotta|Mobility | I dropped vmware for virtualbox |
| 02:39.43 | Gotta|Mobility | less painful |
| 02:41.10 | jhutchins_lt | You need to accept that there will be pain and limitations if you are running VM's, and they will not do what you hope they will do in the way you hope they will do it. They are a compromise. |
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| 02:41.34 | jhutchins_lt | A VM server is not a blade server. |
| 02:41.45 | petemc_ | i wouldnt agree with that |
| 02:42.10 | nsadmin | a vm server IS a blade server?? |
| 02:42.12 | jhutchins_lt | VM's on consumer grade hardware are never going to do the things you read about VM's doing on IBM Mainframe hardware. |
| 02:42.16 | petemc_ | its not 2001, virtualiztion is fairly mature and works well for lots of purposes |
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| 02:42.48 | xerophyte | i have question: say if i have raw email file, how can i resend that receiver .. i mean i have program to flag spam .. but its flaged legit email as spam how can i deliver that email back to user .. the program store the full email in file .. so i have file how can deliver that to user |
| 02:42.56 | jhutchins_lt | petemc_: Yet it's never going to be a real machine, and VM on an Intel box is never going to be a VM on a 3090. |
| 02:43.08 | mtnman | having sound troubles with an upgrade from etch->lenny... i am finally getting some sound but it is all high-pitched and static |
| 02:43.10 | petemc_ | bunkum |
| 02:43.39 | jhutchins_lt | petemc_: I was producing commercial VM's up until August of last year, there are some clues avialable. |
| 02:44.09 | petemc_ | say something less hand wavey then |
| 02:44.20 | nsadmin | jhutchins_lt bit upi |
| 02:44.25 | nsadmin | arghre |
| 02:44.38 | nsadmin | but you're not being specific... |
| 02:45.04 | nsadmin | all you're saying at the moment is vm on intel BAD JUU |
| 02:45.42 | jhutchins_lt | I mean to be general about it, but most of what I mean is that you're going to be able to tell a VM from a console session on a real machine. |
| 02:46.00 | petemc_ | untrue |
| 02:46.14 | jhutchins_lt | VM's can do many things, but people think they're just like having another Phisical Machine (PM), and they're not. |
| 02:46.21 | petemc_ | paravirt can often seem faster than native |
| 02:46.33 | nsadmin | being general here, matches pattern "fud" |
| 02:46.56 | jhutchins_lt | petemc_: In my experience that's true - for some operations, but not for all, and others are distinctly slower. |
| 02:47.34 | petemc_ | in any case, what you're saying is of no help to the ops question |
| 02:47.40 | jhutchins_lt | K, n'mind. Just sayin', if you thought your Vm was gonna be just like a PM, and it ain't, the distro ain't the problem. Done now. |
| 02:48.03 | nsadmin | it does allow some cool things tho, one of those is testing the waters to see if you like a particular dist |
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| 02:53.41 | near | yes but i dont like vmware server ... |
| 02:53.46 | near | so kmt i think its called |
| 02:54.04 | near | seems to work only with virtualization technologies in the processor |
| 02:54.10 | near | anyone installed it in deb? |
| 02:57.19 | near | or xen? |
| 02:57.24 | petemc_ | i use xem |
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| 02:57.42 | near | is it difficult to manage? |
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| 02:57.53 | petemc_ | not really, you'll need to do some reading though |
| 02:58.15 | near | where should i start? citrix documentation? |
| 02:58.26 | near | im not sure if xenserver can work under an os |
| 02:58.30 | near | i think not, right? |
| 02:58.39 | near | xen alone is what works under debian ? |
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| 02:59.58 | petemc_ | i dont follow the question, when you use xen you're really running the xen hyerpvisor, which in turne runs domain0 |
| 03:00.35 | petemc_ | domain0 is debian, and then you run other guest operating systems, domUs over that |
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| 03:02.13 | petemc_ | you dont notice you're running something under the debian dom0 tho, other than you changed grub |
| 03:03.34 | near | so you manage all the vms from the dom0? |
| 03:03.40 | petemc_ | yes |
| 03:03.50 | petemc_ | using the xm command |
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| 03:04.32 | near | so just to be clear, when i boot my machine i get the normal grub to go to my main os which is debian |
| 03:04.39 | petemc_ | yes |
| 03:04.54 | near | after booting up i can start my vms with the xm command |
| 03:04.59 | near | so it would be just like vmware then |
| 03:05.03 | petemc_ | or have them set to autostart |
| 03:05.19 | petemc_ | pretty much |
| 03:05.19 | near | i see, and to enter this vms |
| 03:05.35 | near | how would i use them? is it all cli or it has a gui too? |
| 03:05.41 | eonbluez | i blame trees |
| 03:05.50 | petemc_ | you can use xm console, or connect to them with standard network methods - ssh, vnc etc |
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| 03:06.30 | near | i see so to get a gui |
| 03:06.39 | petemc_ | you would use vnc |
| 03:06.45 | near | i would connect with xm console, then set up for remote managment and later connect to it with eg vnc |
| 03:06.51 | petemc_ | right |
| 03:07.07 | near | but what if the installation of the os needs a gui? |
| 03:07.13 | near | eg windows xp |
| 03:07.14 | petemc_ | you can connect with vnc right off the bat |
| 03:07.57 | near | allright and any disadvantages in xen that you experienced? |
| 03:08.13 | petemc_ | for my needs its been great |
| 03:08.23 | near | btw thanks for all your help |
| 03:08.32 | petemc_ | p |
| 03:08.34 | petemc_ | erm |
| 03:08.35 | petemc_ | np |
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| 03:11.25 | near | im downloading the tar file, i should just unpackit? is there any other package i need to download? |
| 03:11.44 | petemc_ | use the debian packages |
| 03:12.15 | petemc_ | xen-linux-system-2.6.26-2-xen-686 |
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| 03:15.13 | near | i downloaded the xen-4.0.0.tar.gz |
| 03:15.19 | near | what would be the apt get for that one |
| 03:15.27 | near | btw ill start reading http://wiki.debian.org/Xen#XenOverview |
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| 03:16.31 | near | isint it a waste if xen is for 32 bits that i have a 64 bit os & processor |
| 03:16.54 | petemc_ | there are amd64 packages |
| 03:16.57 | Guest49986 | i think so |
| 03:17.00 | petemc_ | keep reading |
| 03:18.03 | near | found one for 3.2.1 |
| 03:18.23 | near | should i look for 4.0.0 or is it that it takes time to get one for debian |
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| 03:19.41 | petemc_ | look for it if you like, you may not find it tho |
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| 03:25.10 | stealth- | Is there a way to make commands run once a network interface is established a IP? |
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| 03:28.35 | petemc_ | stealth-: post-up in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 03:28.43 | \amethyst | stealth-: add a script in /etc/network/if-up.d/ or add a up <command-name> entry to the stanza in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 03:28.48 | fschrat | or /etc/network/if-{up,down}.d/ |
| 03:28.50 | \amethyst | stealth-: man interfaces for more detail |
| 03:29.30 | stealth- | ah, thanks guys :D |
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| 03:47.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | shubidu |
| 03:47.39 | liable | derp derp |
| 03:49.08 | near | i dont get this |
| 03:49.12 | near | Serial console access |
| 03:49.12 | near | To get output from grub, XEN, the kernel and getty (login prompt) via both vga and serial console to work, here's an example of the right settings when using Lenny kernels and Xen 3.2: |
| 03:49.22 | near | anyone knows what it means? |
| 03:49.45 | near | is it me or its really badly written?\ |
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| 03:51.39 | petemc_ | near: if you want serial console as well as vga, do this.. |
| 03:52.07 | near | but really its horribly written, i mean from an english language point of view |
| 03:52.27 | petemc_ | if its the wiki, feel free to fix it |
| 03:52.46 | petemc_ | made enough sense to me |
| 03:52.47 | near | but i dont get why i should modify the grub if im using the xen from the os |
| 03:53.02 | petemc_ | then you probably dont know what serial console is |
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| 03:53.26 | near | lol no |
| 03:53.49 | near | linux controlled by a serial port ? |
| 03:54.06 | petemc_ | right |
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| 03:55.19 | near | oh now i get it |
| 03:55.24 | dserban__ | my cpu has pwm enabled. I want to test hardware stability, and want to crank up the RPM on the fan. How do I do this? fancontrol doesn't seem to be enabled, and I have no clue what service is changing the rpm's on my fan :) (could be the bios I guess) |
| 03:55.24 | near | lol no i don-t need it |
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| 03:56.11 | petemc_ | near: also, you need to modify grub anyway, as you're using the xen hypervisor as the os |
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| 03:57.16 | near | but i thought that i would manage xen from debian |
| 03:57.17 | petemc_ | i think installing the xen-linux-system package should do that for you tho, maybe |
| 03:57.21 | near | not the other way around |
| 03:57.26 | petemc_ | near: you do, from debian domain0 |
| 03:57.44 | petemc_ | xen controls domain0, but you dont notice that |
| 03:57.48 | petemc_ | i told you this already |
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| 04:03.00 | near | yes sorry but i don-t seem to quite get it :S i just think of booting my os and then running an application that runs vms just like vmware or virtual pc |
| 04:03.26 | near | but for what you say i imagine booting up xen and there choosing to run a debian vm from which i manage the other vms |
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| 04:04.55 | petemc_ | near: as i said, you dont notice it past the fact that grus is slightly modified |
| 04:05.03 | petemc_ | grub |
| 04:05.32 | near | oh allright then its how i thought |
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| 04:06.09 | near | so just to be clear xD i won-t need to format this os, it will just assign it to domain 0 |
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| 04:11.31 | petemc_ | near: correct |
| 04:17.04 | near | whats the use of |
| 04:17.12 | near | i checked and initrd would be the ram |
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| 04:18.01 | near | you know what it means by module? what to load ? its weird to ask to load the ram , i mean where would you load it xD |
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| 04:19.20 | near | oh never mind what i said |
| 04:19.38 | near | i got confused thought it was a pointer to the ram memory because of its name |
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| 04:20.06 | petemc_ | you should read a general overview of how xen works |
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| 04:23.23 | near | yeah im on it thankx a lot for the help |
| 04:23.33 | near | ill reboot and hope it works |
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| 04:24.42 | SerajewelKS | xen is one of those things i'd like to know how to use, but for now virtualbox is so much more convenient |
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| 04:35.10 | near | fuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
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| 04:36.01 | SerajewelKS | hmm, sun-java6-plugin isn't working properly in iceweasel. every applet gives ClassNotFound errors, all about the program's main class. |
| 04:37.15 | SerajewelKS | oh damn, it's that stupid bindv6only thing |
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| 04:39.01 | cmyers | SerajewelKS: I've been bitten by that a ton =( |
| 04:39.27 | SerajewelKS | i wish i could turn that on for specific processes only |
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| 04:39.53 | cmyers | I wish it wasn't a broken, bad default value =( |
| 04:40.05 | cmyers | I think (think, mind you) I understand why it is on by default |
| 04:40.27 | cmyers | but it affects so many users in such a negative way that I question if something better couldn't be done. |
| 04:40.43 | SerajewelKS | i like the default value from a technical standpoint |
| 04:42.02 | cmyers | what is the path to fixing it? "sun(now oracle) fixing JDK's network behavior on linux"? Some other thing that will never ever happen? or will it actually encourage the right thing some day? that is the important question. |
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| 04:42.26 | Rapsodius | Why does 'aptitude update' download 3 times each file? |
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| 04:46.04 | tenzind | Hi, I have installed Debian lenny on a sony laptop. when i do ifconfig, only "lo" is showing. I did lspci and i get this "01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Device 4380 (rev 10)" how do i configure a driver for my network card? |
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| 04:47.01 | cmyers | tenzind: I am not familiar with that specific nic, but typically if your kernel doesn't support it you must build one that does (if such a kernel is available), otherwise, you are probably SOL. |
| 04:47.13 | cmyers | tenzind: what does `uname -a` print? |
| 04:47.51 | SerajewelKS | Rapsodius: it doesn't |
| 04:47.52 | tenzind | cmyers, Linux debian 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP |
| 04:48.17 | Rapsodius | SerajewelKS: say that to my output |
| 04:48.36 | cmyers | so you are running the stock debian kernel, which is already built with a ton of drivers (usually pretty much everything available which isn't "experimental") |
| 04:48.39 | Rapsodius | it's actually dld'ing 3 times each .pdiff file |
| 04:49.00 | cmyers | unless a driver was added since 2.6.26 (current is like 2.6.32 or something), you might be out of luck |
| 04:49.45 | SerajewelKS | Rapsodius: you are reading it wrong then |
| 04:50.04 | SerajewelKS | Rapsodius: are you using main and contrib and non-free in your sources.list? |
| 04:50.09 | Rapsodius | yes |
| 04:50.16 | SerajewelKS | Rapsodius: well there you go |
| 04:50.20 | Rapsodius | nope |
| 04:50.54 | Rapsodius | for each one of main, contrib and non-free it gets 3 times each pdiff file |
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| 04:51.13 | se7en | 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 05) is not working ... could someone help me please |
| 04:51.21 | Rapsodius | like main 2010-04-10.xxxx.pdiff 3 times in a row |
| 04:51.50 | Rapsodius | !doesn't work |
| 04:51.50 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
| 04:52.08 | se7en | Rapsodius: no sound |
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| 04:52.35 | Rapsodius | pastebin your /proc/asound/cards file |
| 04:52.53 | cmyers | tenzind: have you googled? my first google search for "marvell linux 4380" has a ton of promising looking hits |
| 04:53.28 | SerajewelKS | Rapsodius: have you used a packet sniffer to verify that it actually is downloading and is not just processing? |
| 04:53.44 | cmyers | SerajewelKS: good call. I was going to suggest perl debugger =) |
| 04:53.45 | Rapsodius | SerajewelKS: no |
| 04:54.08 | tenzind | cmyers, i downloaded a driver patch from marvel. But compiling the driver gives a "The kernel's modpost utility is not available" error |
| 04:54.20 | Rapsodius | also, |
| 04:54.32 | Rapsodius | !tell se7en about alsa checklist |
| 04:55.00 | cmyers | tenzind: ah, I see. That is a more specific problem then. I've never seen that one, not really sure to go from there =( Does the driver say what kernel versions it supports? |
| 04:55.46 | tenzind | cmyers, no it doesnt. it just lists the kernel source of your running kernel as a pre-requisite :( |
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| 04:56.42 | cmyers | tenzind: it isn't very old-looking, is it? is there a release date suggesting it isn't super-old? |
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| 04:59.37 | se7en | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:59.40 | se7en | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:59.42 | se7en | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:59.52 | SerajewelKS | !tell se7en about pastebin |
| 05:00.00 | se7en | sorry |
| 05:00.16 | Rapsodius | did you see the checklist? |
| 05:00.22 | se7en | yes |
| 05:01.10 | se7en | checked it all ... it is a dell studio 14 notebook and it is a comon problem with no answer as fare as i can tell |
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| 05:01.16 | Rapsodius | which one is the one you want to work? |
| 05:01.52 | se7en | Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio |
| 05:02.36 | Rapsodius | maybe guessing, but go take a look at /etc/modprobe.d/ directory |
| 05:02.59 | Rapsodius | sometimes linux-sound-base likes to blacklist some kernel modules |
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| 05:03.12 | se7en | i added snd-hda-intel: model=dell-m6 without any luck |
| 05:03.16 | fatimanguyen | write an eqution for the conic section giver this information: hyperbola with foci at (-2,-2) and (8,-2), and asymptote with slope 4/3 |
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| 05:03.28 | fatimanguyen | someone help me with that |
| 05:03.38 | fatimanguyen | write an eqution for the conic section giver this information: hyperbola with foci at (-2,-2) and (8,-2), and asymptote with slope 4/3 |
| 05:03.49 | Rapsodius | fatimanguyen: you should go to #math |
| 05:03.59 | fatimanguyen | how? |
| 05:04.07 | Rapsodius | /join #math |
| 05:04.36 | fatimanguyen | this is my first time in this cahtroom i dun now how to join |
| 05:04.40 | Rapsodius | this is #debian, if you have a debian question, welcome |
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| 05:05.48 | Rapsodius | O.o |
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| 05:09.01 | fonseg | on my machine "iwlist wlan0 scan" returns results, proved that my wireless card works, but when "iwconfig wlan0 essid NETWORK key KEY" and then "dhclient wlan0" dhclient cannot get an ip for wlan0. this is the output: http://pastebin.com/hBuEWqiD. i am using debian squeeze |
| 05:10.05 | cmyers | fonseg: have you tried disabling security on the wireless network temporarily to eliminate configuration as the problem? What sort of security is it (WEP, WPA, etc?) |
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| 05:14.40 | fonseg | cmyers: it uses WEP. anyway, it succefully get an ip once, only one among many tries (you can see recorded lease 172.16.1.33). |
| 05:15.38 | cmyers | fonseg: when you iwlist, what is the quality of the connection? |
| 05:16.35 | fonseg | cmyers: Quality=63/70 Signal level=-47 dBm |
| 05:16.49 | cmyers | hmm, that is pretty good, shouldn't be flakey with quality like that =( |
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| 05:17.26 | cmyers | are there a large number of other cells in the area? Have you tried changing channels? |
| 05:17.59 | se7en | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:18.36 | fonseg | cmyers: i only have access to this network. how to change channel? |
| 05:19.40 | cmyers | fonseg: you change channel in the "Advanced settings" of most wireless routers. If this is a wireless router you do not have admin access to, or a commercial system (at work, at school, etc) then you would have to ask the admin/owner to do it. |
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| 05:20.23 | subsume | Can someone help me? I'm getting device full errors on my shared host but df doesn't report anything @ 100% full |
| 05:20.32 | cmyers | fonseg: what chipset are you using? do you know? |
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| 05:20.58 | near | hiiiiiiiii |
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| 05:21.04 | cmyers | subsume: is anything at 95%? by default, on ext3 volumes (and many others), the last 5% is reserved for root in case things fill up, so you can still log in and fix it. |
| 05:21.16 | subsume | cmyers, nope, 80 something. |
| 05:21.26 | xsdg | cmyers: (and also because fs performance tanks after that point :o) |
| 05:21.33 | xsdg | subsume: are you out of quota? |
| 05:21.34 | subsume | its just /tmp/, I think |
| 05:21.42 | subsume | no, its not quota either. |
| 05:21.52 | xsdg | subsume: where are you trying to write that's failing? |
| 05:21.59 | cmyers | subsume: it is possible a file is open and being written to, so it isn't counted yet, but is still occupying the space, I think. |
| 05:22.01 | subsume | i can't even restart apache at this point |
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| 05:22.16 | subsume | >/tmp looks empty though |
| 05:22.36 | subsume | http://dpaste.com/182166/ <-- my df command |
| 05:22.57 | near | is there a divx web player for debian? nothing is working in google chrome |
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| 05:23.46 | xsdg | subsume: again, where are you trying to write that is failing? |
| 05:24.05 | subsume | xsdg, anything attempting to write to tmp is failing |
| 05:24.35 | xsdg | subsume: do you have root? if so, try `sudo fuser -vm /tmp` |
| 05:24.37 | cmyers | subsume: `sudo lsof | grep /tmp` would find all open files in "/tmp", and you can see the user and PID (first two columns) holding the file open. That might help you find a large file being held open. |
| 05:24.47 | xsdg | or what cmyers said :o) |
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| 05:25.02 | cmyers | xsdg: what is it, great minds think alike? =) |
| 05:25.27 | xsdg | cmyers: *high five* |
| 05:25.30 | subsume | xsdg, http://dpaste.com/182167/ |
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| 05:26.32 | subsume | i don't get it. |
| 05:26.39 | fonseg_ | cmyers: i inserted channel param from iwlist to the iwconfig and then it connect successfully! this is weird, i've never have to use this param before. |
| 05:26.43 | xsdg | subsume: wait, /tmp doesn't show up in your `df` |
| 05:26.47 | subsume | I know |
| 05:26.52 | subsume | that's what's so confusing. |
| 05:27.02 | SerajewelKS | subsume: is /tmp a symlink to /dev/shm? |
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| 05:27.17 | cmyers | fonseg_: you shouldn't have to, it should be autodetected. could be a fluke that it worked, or your chipset may be poorly supported and not detecting it correctly for some reason |
| 05:27.28 | subsume | SerajewelKS, not afaik |
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| 05:27.38 | SerajewelKS | subsume: ls -ld /tmp |
| 05:27.39 | cmyers | subsume: so /tmp is on the root partition, right? |
| 05:27.53 | cmyers | yes, what SerajewelKS said =) |
| 05:27.59 | subsume | drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 Apr 12 00:23 /tmp |
| 05:28.11 | cmyers | hmm, not a link. |
| 05:28.13 | subsume | nope |
| 05:28.24 | xsdg | subsume: random guess; `df -i` |
| 05:28.33 | subsume | nothing new |
| 05:28.35 | subsume | same as df |
| 05:28.38 | xsdg | it's highly unlikely that you're out of inodes, but something to check |
| 05:28.40 | subsume | oh wait |
| 05:29.13 | subsume | /dev/xvda 770048 770048 0 100% / |
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| 05:29.17 | subsume | 100% use |
| 05:29.20 | xsdg | haha |
| 05:29.25 | subsume | gee |
| 05:29.29 | xsdg | subsume: something created a _ton_ of very small files |
| 05:29.30 | cmyers | someone has lots of small files. |
| 05:29.33 | cmyers | indeed |
| 05:29.41 | subsume | did you? |
| 05:29.53 | xsdg | subsume: me? huh? |
| 05:29.56 | subsume | joking. |
| 05:30.03 | subsume | well crap |
| 05:30.13 | subsume | i think its mail |
| 05:30.19 | cmyers | so I think there is a tune2fs option to reserve more inodes or something, right? |
| 05:30.33 | SerajewelKS | cmyers: you have to reformat IIRC |
| 05:30.42 | cmyers | ack, sad times =( |
| 05:30.45 | SerajewelKS | cmyers: since that affects the structure of the filesystem |
| 05:30.52 | cmyers | yeh, that makes sense though. |
| 05:30.53 | subsume | so i'm doomed? |
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| 05:31.10 | SerajewelKS | subsume: try to copy your mail off and remove it, then take down the mail servers |
| 05:31.20 | subsume | I don't need any of the mail |
| 05:31.28 | SerajewelKS | subsume: then rm it |
| 05:31.36 | SerajewelKS | subsume: and perhaps you should create a separate volume for your mail :) |
| 05:31.37 | cmyers | easiest fix evar! =) |
| 05:31.39 | subsume | hmm... not sure where its stored. |
| 05:31.48 | SerajewelKS | subsume: /var/cache i think... |
| 05:31.54 | xsdg | subsume: `find /` is easy enough |
| 05:32.03 | xsdg | you'll notice the directory with a ton of files in it :oP |
| 05:32.26 | subsume | don't see anything in var cache looking like mail |
| 05:32.33 | shylent | I think it is /var/spool actually |
| 05:32.48 | SerajewelKS | or that |
| 05:32.54 | SerajewelKS | i get all the /var directories mixed up |
| 05:32.56 | cmyers | shame du doesn't have a "count inode" flag. |
| 05:33.07 | SerajewelKS | cmyers: one file is one inode |
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| 05:33.22 | cmyers | aren't they sometimes more, for larger files? |
| 05:33.31 | cmyers | hmm, I suppose that would be a good estimate in this situation. |
| 05:33.33 | subsume | apache2/ apt/ debconf/ git/ ldconfig/ man/ |
| 05:33.33 | subsume | var mail or var postfix? |
| 05:33.35 | SerajewelKS | cmyers: eh possible, i don't recall to be honest. but i thought it was one per file. |
| 05:33.54 | xsdg | subsume: one isn't a symlink to the other? |
| 05:33.56 | subsume | i didn't see lots of files at all. |
| 05:34.15 | xsdg | subsume: maybe `find -type f | wc -l`? |
| 05:34.40 | cmyers | yeh, do that in /var, /tmp, etc and look for the place that has a big number. |
| 05:34.40 | SerajewelKS | cmyers: wait when you said "I think there is a tune2fs option to reserve more inodes or something" did you mean create more inodes, or reserve more for root? |
| 05:34.55 | cmyers | I know you can change the amount reserved for root |
| 05:35.00 | cmyers | but I meant make more inodes |
| 05:35.03 | cmyers | but what you said makes sense |
| 05:35.06 | cmyers | you probably have to reformat. |
| 05:35.20 | subsume | xsdg, i see 7k but it doesn't say where |
| 05:35.30 | SerajewelKS | right, to create more. i don't think you can actually reserve inodes for root though, which is kind of a pity. |
| 05:35.31 | xsdg | subsume: btw, `dumpe2fs -h /dev/xvda` will tell you fun stuff about your filesystem |
| 05:35.38 | xsdg | subsume: 7k files doesn't sound right for 700k inodes |
| 05:35.39 | SerajewelKS | because that's a great way to DoS yourself |
| 05:35.42 | xsdg | hmm |
| 05:35.45 | subsume | xsdg, that was in avr |
| 05:35.47 | subsume | var |
| 05:35.51 | xsdg | oh |
| 05:36.13 | subsume | tmp only has 1 |
| 05:36.20 | xsdg | subsume: `for dir in */; do echo $dir; find $dir | wc -l; echo; done` |
| 05:36.21 | cmyers | SerajewelKS: forget the fork bomb, it's time to write a "touch small file bomb"? =) |
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| 05:36.32 | xsdg | cmyers: hehe |
| 05:36.35 | subsume | xsdg, where? anywhere? |
| 05:36.49 | se7en | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:36.55 | xsdg | subsume: yeah, it should tell you how many files are under every subdirectory of the current directory |
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| 05:37.25 | SerajewelKS | cmyers: that would probably work |
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| 05:37.33 | subsume | nothing exciting. =( |
| 05:37.36 | SerajewelKS | cmyers: with the nasty side effect that simply power-cycling the box would not recover |
| 05:37.51 | subsume | in var anyway |
| 05:38.05 | subsume | hrm |
| 05:38.06 | xsdg | subsume: try outside of var |
| 05:38.10 | subsume | its hanging in home |
| 05:38.19 | xsdg | boy, howdy :o) |
| 05:38.29 | subsume | heh |
| 05:38.49 | subsume | still hanging |
| 05:38.55 | cmyers | SerajewelKS: well, power-cycling would clear up any temporary files, which might give you a few spare inodes depending on how your filesystem is partitioned, but cleanup would be easy using find, ctime, and looking for small files. |
| 05:38.57 | subsume | i guess its going to go to a few hundred k. |
| 05:39.14 | SerajewelKS | cmyers: i'd be surprised if the boot process would even make it that far |
| 05:39.15 | subsume | ok, its somewhere in home but it doesn't say where |
| 05:39.30 | SerajewelKS | cmyers: this would be especially nasty if you could write to the / volume |
| 05:39.35 | cmyers | SerajewelKS: hmm, the boot process needs inodes for stuff? I suppose that would be a problem. |
| 05:39.45 | subsume | xsdg, it just gives me a number, no specific directory... |
| 05:39.47 | SerajewelKS | cmyers: if you have your /home on a separate volume, this would be especially nasty on multiuser systems |
| 05:39.50 | xsdg | subsume: cd home, try again |
| 05:39.55 | SerajewelKS | cmyers: well sure, log daemons create/append files |
| 05:39.57 | subsume | oh duh |
| 05:40.22 | SerajewelKS | cmyers: i'm not saying for sure, but i'm saying it wouldn't surprise me |
| 05:40.23 | subsume | ok, I found it. images of decks from a highly active website of mine. duh. |
| 05:40.37 | xsdg | decks? |
| 05:40.47 | SerajewelKS | like porches? |
| 05:40.48 | subsume | mtg decks. =) |
| 05:40.53 | SerajewelKS | aha |
| 05:40.55 | xsdg | aaah, haha |
| 05:40.57 | subsume | =) |
| 05:41.04 | SerajewelKS | i always knew that game was trouble |
| 05:41.14 | SerajewelKS | but yeh you might want to create another volume for those specifically :) |
| 05:41.20 | subsume | yeah, well just tell me where to send the proof. |
| 05:41.22 | SerajewelKS | with many, many inodes... |
| 05:41.37 | subsume | i am guessing it just not deleting old ones |
| 05:41.46 | subsume | so everytime any deck anywhere gets uploaded... viola. |
| 05:42.25 | subsume | i should probably see about unlinking the old charts. |
| 05:42.51 | SerajewelKS | you could also tar some up for archival purposes or something |
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| 05:42.56 | SerajewelKS | that would consolidate many files into one |
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| 05:43.31 | SerajewelKS | remove a few to get started, then use tar --remove-files |
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| 05:44.14 | subsume | SerajewelKS, hmm... kinda hard to derive which are unneeded. i wouldn't mind just doing it to the oldest ones |
| 05:44.28 | SerajewelKS | subsume: all in one folder? |
| 05:44.33 | subsume | yes |
| 05:44.52 | SerajewelKS | subsume: ls -t | head -30 |
| 05:44.57 | SerajewelKS | subsume: that will show the oldest 30 |
| 05:45.13 | SerajewelKS | or rather ls -lt | head -30 |
| 05:45.28 | subsume | well i'd rather just wholesale delete the last 50k and go to bed =) |
| 05:45.37 | subsume | err the earliest 50k |
| 05:45.45 | cmyers | careful not to do it backwards =) |
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| 05:46.10 | subsume | yeah i don't know how to do it at all. heh. |
| 05:46.35 | SerajewelKS | you can use find -mtime to find files older than X |
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| 05:47.24 | SerajewelKS | e.g. "find -mtime +60 -exec rm -fv {} \;" will toast everything older than two months |
| 05:48.04 | cmyers | leave off the "-exec" part and | wc -l to see how many you are going to delete, or pipe to less to look at the list first, if you want to be sure |
| 05:48.54 | subsume | find . -mtime +500 -exec rm {} \; |
| 05:49.02 | subsume | =) |
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| 05:49.23 | xsdg | subsume: make sure you run without the -exec first; rm is forever :o) |
| 05:49.28 | subsume | meh |
| 05:49.31 | subsume | it can all be regenerated |
| 05:49.57 | Bop | what tool regenerates deleted files ? |
| 05:50.24 | shylent | your backups of course |
| 05:50.31 | shylent | that is the tool of choice |
| 05:50.32 | subsume | shylent you shouldn't be here. |
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| 05:50.37 | Bop | that's not regenerate |
| 05:50.40 | shylent | subsume: how come? :P |
| 05:50.42 | subsume | lol. |
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| 05:52.37 | Bop | se7en, sidux ? |
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| 05:53.10 | se7en | Bop: yes |
| 05:53.21 | Bop | sidux is not debian |
| 05:53.32 | se7en | debian sid |
| 05:53.43 | cmyers | dpkg: tell se7en about sidux |
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| 05:54.08 | subsume | welp guys, as always you're a life saver. i'm going to bed. |
| 05:54.15 | SerajewelKS | subsume: night |
| 05:54.38 | subsume | thanks. see ya. xs, cm too. |
| 05:54.48 | cmyers | nighty night =) |
| 05:54.58 | xsdg | see ya |
| 05:55.16 | Bop | anyone uses opera here ? |
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| 05:55.33 | Bop | i had this script on firefox , and its working with opera |
| 05:55.41 | Bop | i wonder if they share information |
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| 05:56.23 | Bop | script , i mean , Plugin with a script |
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| 05:56.32 | cmyers | greasemonkey? |
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| 05:56.42 | Bop | yes , script for greasemonkey |
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| 05:57.08 | cmyers | might be a greasemonkey-specific thing, like maybe the plugin takes steps to share scripts across browsers. |
| 05:57.19 | cmyers | I doubt it is a general thing. |
| 05:57.21 | Bop | hmm right , can be |
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| 05:57.37 | pfui | is there a debian live usb image for squeeze? |
| 05:57.57 | liable | !live |
| 05:57.57 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. As of squeeze, the images can be installed with d-i. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/FAQ http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.oftc.net. |
| 05:58.44 | pfui | thanks |
| 05:58.48 | liable | yw |
| 05:59.49 | Bop | cmyers, its not listen under plugins |
| 05:59.52 | Bop | listed * |
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| 06:00.36 | cmyers | Bop: that is *very* strange |
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| 06:00.57 | Bop | cmyers, its a script to remove gmail ads , u know ... |
| 06:01.12 | pfui | if I want to debootstrap squeeze from a lenny install, must I download the debootstrap package from testing, or is it ok if I use the one in stable? |
| 06:01.17 | pfui | !debootstrap |
| 06:01.17 | dpkg | debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>. http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Installing_new_Debian_systems_with_debootstrap |
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| 06:02.10 | cmyers | pfui: deboostrap can, generally, bootstrap any distro regardless of which it came from |
| 06:02.19 | cmyers | you pass it whcih one you want (sid, squeeze, lenny, etc) as an argument |
| 06:03.18 | pfui | ok, I'll give it a try |
| 06:03.19 | pfui | thanks guys |
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| 06:04.03 | phretor | i'm running lenny with xorg-video-intel driver (mine is an i855gm) and HAL - When I start "X" I see three blue stripes on the left, flickering, and an horizontal white stripe that follows the mouse. I haven't found this issue before. Suggestions? |
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| 06:05.08 | phretor | if I fall back to a vesa driver it works nicely without any weirdness so the video card is in good shape. |
| 06:05.29 | rumpsy | phretor: then go with vesa |
| 06:05.30 | cmyers | phretor: so you don't see any video at all, you just see the blue stripes? or this is on top of your normal desktop/windows/mouse/etc? Does X die, or continue running? Are there any errors in the X logs? |
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| 06:07.17 | pallgone | is there anyting to improve the speed of "reading database" from apt? after a while this gets pretty slow... |
| 06:09.20 | SerajewelKS | rumpsy: vesa is incredibly slow... |
| 06:10.26 | rumpsy | SerajewelKS: But sometimes that helps to work with X, so we need that instead of without having X |
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| 06:10.48 | SerajewelKS | rumpsy: sure, but if you use X to watch movies or something, vesa is not much better than not having X |
| 06:11.02 | phretor | cmyers: I see the X cursor and these weirdness are part of what I see on the black screen. X doesn't die and there are some (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x23, intel(0): Register 0x61200 (PP_STATUS) changed from 0xc0000008 to 0xd000000a, ..., http://pastebin.com/X9Q1cjM8 |
| 06:11.16 | phretor | rumpsy: wouldn't it be slow? |
| 06:11.27 | rumpsy | SerajewelKS: yup you are right |
| 06:11.29 | SerajewelKS | phretor: try running without aiglx.. also, are you using compiz? |
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| 06:13.36 | phretor | SerajewelKS: no compiz, this is my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/4rJa8n45 - how can I disable aiglx? I haven't enabled it at all. |
| 06:13.43 | rumpsy | SerajewelKS: so what is your solution for him |
| 06:14.52 | brolin_empey | Can someone help me install openoffice.org on lenny on armel? It is impossible to install openoffice.org v3.x (I do not want v2.x) because of dependency conflicts. :( |
| 06:15.10 | SerajewelKS | rumpsy: we're still working on the diagnosis |
| 06:15.20 | SerajewelKS | phretor: pastebin your xorg.conf |
| 06:15.46 | rumpsy | SerajewelKS: i see |
| 06:15.57 | phretor | SerajewelKS: http://pastebin.com/4rJa8n45 |
| 06:16.57 | rumpsy | phretor: you are not having aiglx loaded |
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| 06:17.37 | SerajewelKS | phretor: try this: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RenderingProject/aiglx#How_can_I_disable_AIGLX_and_the_compositing_extension.3F |
| 06:17.45 | SerajewelKS | phretor: it's on the fedora wiki but it should still appry |
| 06:17.47 | SerajewelKS | apply too |
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| 06:17.58 | phretor | rumpsy: I know, maybe HAL is doing something weird. Otherwise, how would you explain those AIGLX warnings? |
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| 06:23.24 | phretor | SerajewelKS, rumpsy, cmyers here is a picture of my monitor after launching X - http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4628/photorh.jpg |
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| 06:24.24 | phretor | SerajewelKS: disabling AIGLX does not help. Maybe I should try to disable *all* the extensions and enable one at a time. |
| 06:24.33 | AppDeb | anyone knows how to prevent a debootstrap chroot from auto-starting services/daemons when they are installed? |
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| 06:25.44 | rumpsy | phretor: make debian to create a new x file for your video card and replace it with old one, you can try this command |
| 06:25.58 | rumpsy | configure -x |
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| 06:27.15 | anipy | hello there. we have a debian 5 running on a server. for a week now the server is freezing almost every day. screen shows login prompt, no key input, no network, no errors in the logs. did memtest and CPU tests, all OK. any idea? |
| 06:27.15 | phretor | rumpsy: mh, all I found is xdebconfigurator, not configure. Maybe you meant dpkg-reconfigure ...? |
| 06:27.44 | rumpsy | no not dpkg-reconfigure |
| 06:27.51 | anipy | uname shows: Linux srv-gen-1 2.6.30-bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP Mon Aug 17 08:42:50 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 06:28.11 | phretor | rumpsy: which one then? :) |
| 06:28.57 | rumpsy | phretor: i tell you wait |
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| 06:31.24 | rumpsy | phretor: x -configure or xorg -configure |
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| 06:32.58 | lautriv | anyone a good link about GECOS information, i need a way to filter it and it seems to have no special restrictions ? |
| 06:35.19 | xsdg | lautriv: what do you mean "filter it"? |
| 06:36.18 | xsdg | (random guess) have you tried wikipedia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gecos_field |
| 06:36.24 | phretor | rumpsy: I cannot find them in any package - I also used packages.debian.org to look for files into packages. No clue. |
| 06:37.26 | SerajewelKS | phretor: he meant Xorg -configure |
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| 06:38.16 | phretor | rumpsy: I re-generated a new xorg.conf file - no changes in the issue. |
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| 06:39.22 | rumpsy | phretor: sorry man, i have no clue then |
| 06:39.45 | SerajewelKS | phretor: you might submit a bug against the intel driver package, see what the maintainer says about it |
| 06:40.59 | rumpsy | phretor: you can also checkin here http://intellinuxgraphics.org/user.html |
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| 06:45.19 | lautriv | xsdg, sure, whenever i have a question, i will first ask the big oracle :-) i can have several(or none) content in this way : some user, +49 2331 176 49202339, +001 555 4857,, .........i see no way to parse it in the case of non-gecos information will follow. |
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| 06:48.54 | xsdg | lautriv: I don't think there's a good way to parse GECOS other than by using heuristics |
| 06:50.20 | lautriv | xsdg, now, you see why i asked :-( |
| 06:51.28 | xsdg | lautriv: you can get pretty far with simple heuristics — if the field starts with a "+", and consists of numbers, spaces, and hyphens, it's probably a phone number of some sort |
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| 06:54.42 | lautriv | xsdg, you got not the whole, this information can be followed by non-gecos parts and also not all must be given |
| 06:55.33 | xsdg | lautriv: true, but it's a start |
| 06:55.46 | uzy | hiyall, Im using lenny. I needed a frontend to change network configurations. dug up dpkg-reconfigure ifupdown. doesn't have much documentation available. Isn't is supposed to give some front end to reconfigure network n stuff ? |
| 06:55.48 | xsdg | lautriv: any heuristic is necessarily going to miss some cases; tough luck |
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| 07:01.02 | SerajewelKS | lautriv: this might work for most cases: egrep -o '\+[0-9 -]*[0-9]' |
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| 07:02.22 | brounok | looking for desktop background slideshow software. web search throws up a few such as gnome-desktop-change, wallzapper...any recommendation? |
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| 07:03.56 | brounok | for gnome, of course. |
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| 07:13.09 | lautriv | SerajewelKS, main problem is, this GECOS info is part of a long line, consisting other arguments, i know GECOS fields are delimited by commas but can contain whitespaces, what is the delimiter for the res of the line, i must go another way and filter all except gecos.........unfortunately the harder way :-( |
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| 07:14.07 | brounok | have anyone here used 'drapes'? |
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| 07:19.01 | dbbolton | what could cause my input devices to suddenly stop working, but lets say a video will keep playing, suggestion that the operating system is still working? |
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| 07:21.30 | cmyers | dbbolton: among other things, many X server crashes I have witnessed have caused input to stop responding, but left other processes going. Alternatively, the driver or userspace daemon of that input dev could have crashed or been removed from the kernel (using rmmod, for example) |
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| 07:25.15 | aalex | hello |
| 07:25.32 | aalex | Does @reboot works with cron on Linux? |
| 07:25.46 | aalex | @reboot /usr/bin/command-to-run |
| 07:27.18 | lautriv | aalex, /etc/init.d does this job |
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| 07:34.19 | aalex | lautriv: so what do I do? I add a shell script in /etc/init.d/myscript ? |
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| 07:36.11 | lautriv | aalex, yes, and the proper links in /etc/rcX.d..........on recent versions use a lsb-header and debians rc.d functions |
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| 07:51.08 | debuggerboy | hi |
| 07:51.13 | reber | hi all. I have this bug : http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org/msg30910.html Any better workaround ? |
| 07:52.02 | debuggerboy | getting an error while apt-get install, Failed to fetch <package> Size mismatch why is that? Any help please |
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| 07:53.11 | cmyers | debuggerboy: which dist are you running (lenny, squeeze, sid)? pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list? have you ran "apt-get update" recently? |
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| 07:53.49 | debuggerboy | debian lenny 5.0.4 |
| 07:54.05 | debuggerboy | yes ran a apt-get update recently |
| 07:54.46 | reber | Recently, after some upgrade I guess, KDM stopped working and displayed the following message instead: cannot open theme file @@@ToBeReplacedByDesktopBase@@@. Ideas ? |
| 07:55.39 | debuggerboy | hi cmyers http://pastebin.com/vAcvbbQB |
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| 07:56.31 | cmyers | debuggerboy: That is really strange. stable is..."stable". the packages shouldn't change much |
| 07:56.39 | debuggerboy | I am unable to strace. All other packages seems instaling now. |
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| 07:57.52 | cmyers | debuggerboy: try "apt-get remove --purge <package" then "apt-get clean", then "apt-get install <package>" again. |
| 07:57.53 | debuggerboy | cmyers : only this package strace is saying this, Just now I installed vim successfully |
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| 07:58.00 | debuggerboy | I need strace desperately. |
| 07:58.11 | cmyers | strace is the pkg you are trying to install? |
| 07:58.15 | debuggerboy | yes |
| 07:58.21 | cmyers | I see. hmm. |
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| 07:58.47 | cmyers | try what I suggested above, and if that doesn't work, we'll dig into it further |
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| 07:59.42 | debuggerboy | cmyers let me try that... |
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| 08:01.49 | debuggerboy | cmyers : No luck, same error |
| 08:01.55 | debuggerboy | =) |
| 08:02.09 | cmyers | debuggerboy: ok, so try this - aptitude sometimes has better error messages than apt-get |
| 08:02.19 | cmyers | so try "aptitude install <pkg>" |
| 08:02.28 | cmyers | first, "apt-get install aptitude" if you don't hav eit |
| 08:02.29 | debuggerboy | Aaahh.... ok ok |
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| 08:03.21 | debuggerboy | no chance brother.... same error from aptitude also? |
| 08:03.27 | debuggerboy | Size mismatch |
| 08:03.46 | cmyers | can you pastebin the entire run, from the command you type to the command prompt after the error? |
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| 08:05.17 | debuggerboy | cmyers: Plz find it in http://pastebin.com/Mauy2RMs |
| 08:06.01 | cmyers | ok, checking =) |
| 08:06.59 | tvstebut | Hello |
| 08:07.38 | tvstebut | I want to share a directory through NFS...but I want to apply a quota on it, how ? |
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| 08:08.10 | tvstebut | eq may partition is 500 GB large but I want the share not to user over 200 GB... |
| 08:08.28 | tvstebut | Constraint : i can't modify partitionning |
| 08:09.42 | cmyers | debuggerboy: I was able to download and install the package by hand, so I don't think it is corrupt on the server |
| 08:09.45 | cmyers | let's try this |
| 08:09.53 | cmyers | wget http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/strace/strace_4.5.17+cvs080723-2_i386.deb |
| 08:10.10 | cmyers | then, `sudo dpkg -i strace_4.5.17+cvs080723-2_i386.deb` |
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| 08:10.18 | debuggerboy | what happens if I install it by hand? |
| 08:10.22 | debuggerboy | ok |
| 08:10.25 | cmyers | hopefully, it installs and works |
| 08:10.40 | cmyers | the big thing apt does for you, is it installs any dependencies the package needs automatically |
| 08:10.54 | cmyers | if you are missing other dependencies, you will need to install them first. perhaps those will work with apt. |
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| 08:12.40 | debuggerboy | I am not able to download that strace_4.5.17+cvs080723-2_i386.deb |
| 08:12.53 | cmyers | the wget command fails? |
| 08:13.03 | debuggerboy | I think some other problems. Downloading of that file fails in between |
| 08:13.12 | debuggerboy | yep |
| 08:13.21 | cmyers | ahah =) |
| 08:13.32 | cmyers | can you load this page in a browser? http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/strace/ |
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| 08:14.30 | debuggerboy | let me check that... cmyers you have been agreat helping hand. See you around. Let me fix this. Thanks |
| 08:14.32 | macrobat | ,info strace |
| 08:14.35 | judd | strace (utils, optional): A system call tracer. Version: 4.5.17+cvs080723-2; Size: 156.5k; Installed: 280k; Homepage: http://sourceforge.net/projects/strace/ |
| 08:14.55 | cmyers | debuggerboy: no problemo =) |
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| 08:26.31 | rats | Hello, I need help whil booting Debian Lenny from Live CD. What do I need to append to the boot command to boot with my 3ware 9550 Raid Controller? |
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| 08:37.04 | Vistor | I have a HP dl320 G4 server with a SATA controller Raid. But the debian-installation is not detecting the Array, instead it sees 2 SATA-disks. Ubuntu detects it and I guess its all about drivers. Any idea how i could do this? |
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| 08:38.25 | Vistor | there are alot of posts about it but the only working solution ive ran into is for Centos, and that wont really help me ;) |
| 08:38.28 | jelly | !tell Vistor about fakeraid |
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| 08:39.21 | Vistor | So I need to use software raid after all.. I just thought there might be another solution |
| 08:40.36 | Vistor | Thanks though jelly |
| 08:40.38 | jelly | "suggest" does not equal "need", Vistor. Have you read the link? |
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| 08:42.24 | rats | Raid is my problem, too. I booted into the Debian Lenny live CD but my RAID is not recognised. Instead of MD-Devices I just see a SDA HD Drive. RAID 5, Controller 3ware 9550UXS. Can you help me jelly? |
| 08:42.32 | Vistor | True jelly. reading am now |
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| 08:44.37 | jelly | rats: you have a hardware raid controller, that seems like normal behaviour. |
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| 08:46.47 | rats | okay jelly, thanks a lot, it seems that I can mount into the system |
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| 08:48.08 | Vistor | jelly: thanks for the help, that link explained alot, cant believe i missed it |
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| 08:49.52 | _Brandon_ | hi, anyone knows if it's possible to make a disk image of a running system? |
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| 08:50.31 | DASPRiD | _Brandon_, possible |
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| 08:51.01 | _Brandon_ | DASPRiD: using what? dd? |
| 08:51.28 | DASPRiD | no there was a comercial program for that |
| 08:51.35 | DASPRiD | just have to remember the nameÂ… |
| 08:52.04 | DASPRiD | http://www.acronis.com/backup-recovery/server-linux/ |
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| 08:53.14 | _Brandon_ | DASPRiD: thanks |
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| 08:54.35 | d3x | some file systems support freezeing and snapshots |
| 08:54.48 | babilen | lvm does as well |
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| 08:55.06 | d3x | true |
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| 08:56.15 | babilen | DASPRiD: You could also mount the filesystem read only and use dd |
| 08:56.27 | babilen | (or remount) |
| 08:56.34 | d3x | babilen, it was _Brandon_ asking i think :) |
| 08:56.43 | _Brandon_ | yeah :D |
| 08:56.46 | babilen | absolutely |
| 08:56.47 | DASPRiD | babilen, remounting the root partition read-only? that won't work ;) |
| 08:56.51 | babilen | DASPRiD: ENICK - sorry |
| 08:56.54 | DASPRiD | np |
| 08:57.17 | DASPRiD | the thing with acronis is, that your system can still work |
| 08:57.57 | d3x | and 853$ per license is nothing, i assume ;) |
| 08:58.14 | DASPRiD | d3x, peanuts :P |
| 08:58.35 | jelly | _Brandon_: if you set up the disk layout in advance (ie. use lvm, leave some space for snapshots), you can use standard tools as well |
| 08:58.41 | d3x | peanuts cost like 3$/kg, so... a *lot* of peanuts :) |
| 08:58.58 | DASPRiD | lets make peanut butter out of it |
| 08:59.01 | jelly | DASPRiD: that's quite cheap for a DR tool. |
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| 08:59.16 | DASPRiD | jelly, DR? |
| 08:59.33 | jelly | disaster recovery |
| 08:59.35 | DASPRiD | ah |
| 08:59.40 | DASPRiD | well as i said, peanuts |
| 09:00.05 | d3x | setting up raid would be cheaper i think |
| 09:00.10 | babilen | _Brandon_: Setup LVM and use snapshots, that is the best solution IMHO |
| 09:00.20 | tensorpudding | RAID isn't a backup system. |
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| 09:00.43 | d3x | enough for home use |
| 09:00.49 | tensorpudding | It's a failure-mitigation system. |
| 09:01.41 | cmyers | if you want a home-use backup system, I suggest jungledisk. |
| 09:02.18 | d3x | anyway, _Brandon_ didn't say what use he wants these images for :) |
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| 09:02.52 | jelly | tensorpudding: did anyone mention raid _was_ a backup system? |
| 09:03.11 | tensorpudding | I thought d3x was implying it. |
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| 09:03.20 | cmyers | just jumped in mid-stream... =) |
| 09:05.06 | _Brandon_ | I need it to clone the system on another computer without having a downtime |
| 09:05.25 | rats | _Brandon_, why don't you use rsync? |
| 09:05.48 | _Brandon_ | yeah I guess that could work too |
| 09:05.57 | tensorpudding | You'd have to be careful. |
| 09:06.47 | babilen | _Brandon_: So, you don't need images, but just want to transfer data from one computer to another? Yeah, use rsync .. |
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| 09:07.47 | cmyers | that was an rsync alternative which was optimized for very large batches like if you were trying to grab 100+GB and shove it through the pipe as fast as possible, but I don't recall the name now |
| 09:08.08 | cmyers | I think it did tweaks to optimize network and reduce overhead and stuff |
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| 09:12.12 | rats | My system (RAID5, HW-RAID) does not start after grub update. I used the grub-install command and it installed grub on (hd0) but I still have Stage 1.5 shown on boot and than the boot breaks |
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| 09:35.53 | satish | i have a problem with xserver.it shows an error |
| 09:36.15 | cantido | satish: and that error is... |
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| 09:49.45 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 09:49.45 | dpkg | <abrotman> nt pattern matches my left testicle |
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| 09:51.52 | satish | how to upgrade the linux kernal |
| 09:52.03 | satish | any one help me |
| 09:52.19 | ham5 | download it... compile it... install it |
| 09:52.27 | sash_ | satish: packetmanagement |
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| 09:53.28 | babilen | satish: It should be upgraded automatically whenever you upgrade your system. What are you trying to do? Do you think that you have an outdated kernel version installed? |
| 09:54.45 | simonrvn | !kernal |
| 09:54.45 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
| 09:55.01 | _KaszpiR_ | !kernel |
| 09:55.04 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, linux-next: next-20100412, snapshot 2.6: 2.6.34-rc3-git10, mainline 2.6: 2.6.34-rc3, stable 2.6.33: 2.6.33.2 , stable 2.6.32: 2.6.32.11 , stable 2.6.31: 2.6.31.13 , stable 2.6.30: 2.6.30.10 , stable 2.6.27: 2.6.27.46 , stable 2.4.37: 2.4.37.9 |
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| 09:56.55 | satish | k |
| 09:57.04 | satish | thank you |
| 09:57.12 | babilen | ,kernels |
| 09:57.14 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.33-2-686 (2.6.33-1~experimental.4); sid: 2.6.32-4-686 (2.6.32-11); squeeze: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.3-686 (2.6.32-9~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-21lenny4); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 09:57.31 | ham5 | OS: Linux version 2.6.33.2h3f ( Debian GNU/Linux squeeze/sid ) |
| 09:57.50 | simonrvn | ,,, |
| 09:58.16 | babilen | satish: What are you trying to do? Do you suspect that your kernel package is not updated? |
| 09:58.54 | slooth | Hello dudes, is there a way to install Debian using Knoppix LIVE cd? (installing over the net). |
| 09:59.07 | babilen | !debootstrap |
| 09:59.08 | dpkg | debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>. http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Installing_new_Debian_systems_with_debootstrap |
| 09:59.23 | simonrvn | !knoppix |
| 09:59.24 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distribution which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.com/ unofficial: http://Debian-knoppix.alioth.Debian.org/ <Debian-live> is the Debian equivalent for publishing live systems. |
| 09:59.37 | slooth | babilen: Thank you. |
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| 09:59.50 | simonrvn | oh, misread... |
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| 10:06.53 | xayon | Anyone out there uses the getopt++ lib on debian? |
| 10:07.52 | babilen | xayon: what if? |
| 10:08.03 | bkjoe | !anyone |
| 10:08.03 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 10:09.53 | xayon | babilen: /usr/include/getopt++/Option.h:25:2: error: #error "<string> required" |
| 10:10.29 | xayon | I need to sleep more... |
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| 10:13.07 | xayon | Lol, it does not even have a popcon entry |
| 10:14.18 | babilen | xayon: the error message you mentioned is not helping at all - explain what you are doing, provide complete output on a pastebin and tell us what you expected to happen |
| 10:14.49 | babilen | xayon: let us know which version of debian you are using, ..., ..., ... |
| 10:15.17 | bkjoe | !confuse xayon |
| 10:15.17 | dpkg | Yes, who is our gouda tomorrow, xayon? Shirts of the Dictatorship of Tibet with extra cheese. |
| 10:15.49 | xayon | babilen: let me a little to gather as much info as posible, It's ok to put everything on a pastebin entry? |
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| 10:18.00 | slooth | Haha, this is fun channel :-) |
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| 10:21.07 | babilen | xayon: sure |
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| 10:21.45 | babilen | xayon: got to go - good luck |
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| 10:22.34 | xayon | Oh, harder to find help now I think. |
| 10:23.12 | xayon | http://paste.debian.net/68532/ That's the complete info about my system, I'm just installing the libgetopt++-dev package and trying to compile a file with #include <getopt++/...> and no more code. |
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| 10:30.33 | yareckon | to the person who thought up chroot.... I luv you |
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| 10:41.08 | rimmele_mnm | hi all, i have a problem installing the tetex-bin package. screen by entering the command: http://nopaste.martes.de/index.php?id=8c8e32ca68 fmtutil-sys.log: http://nopaste.martes.de/index.php?id=5ec05b9bab |
| 10:41.21 | rimmele_mnm | any ideas? |
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| 10:53.06 | rimmele_mnm | hello? can someone help me? :) |
| 10:53.40 | rimmele_mnm | need a package like tetex but tetex bin will not intsall correctly... |
| 10:55.36 | xyan | 7 |
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| 10:56.14 | simonrvn | um, tetex-bin is pretty much replaced by texlive stuff |
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| 10:58.36 | rimmele_mnm | i need it for a wiki2pdf script... can i use texlive for latex to pdf commands? |
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| 10:59.54 | xyan | texlive-latex-base: /usr/bin/pdflatex |
| 11:00.00 | xyan | not sure what you are looking for? |
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| 11:01.07 | xyan | judd: versions tetex-bin |
| 11:01.08 | judd | tetex-bin -- etch: 3.0-30; lenny: 2007.dfsg.2-1~lenny2 |
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| 11:02.13 | rimmele_mnm | i have a plugin for media wiki, an this is a part from the installation guide: |
| 11:02.15 | rimmele_mnm | For the Latex to PDF conversion, the pdflatex command is needed. |
| 11:02.15 | rimmele_mnm | On Linux, install tetex: apt-get install tetex |
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| 11:02.28 | rimmele_mnm | so i need a packag that can do this |
| 11:02.50 | xyan | rimmele_mnm: see ^^ pdflatex is in texlive-latex-base, also tetex looks like its abandoned for the next release |
| 11:02.53 | uzy | hiyall. I need to exclude a package from update everyone I run aptitude update. I know I can use aptitude hold <package name> but is there any place I can put it permenantly |
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| 11:03.41 | xyan | uzy: you could pin that package with a certain version |
| 11:04.25 | xyan | !tell uzy about pinning |
| 11:04.42 | uzy | xyan: I was expecting an answer on the lines of putting that "aptitude hold <packagname> in /etc/sources.list file kind. |
| 11:05.16 | xyan | uzy: sources.list is for sources notfor controlling apt(itude) or something |
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| 11:05.25 | xyan | uzy: man apt_preferences |
| 11:06.11 | uzy | xyan: yeah I know. anyway Im rtfming aobut package pinning . thanx |
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| 11:06.53 | xyan | uzy: http://paste.debian.net/68536 <- this is how i pin my self compiled ffmpeg stuff to a certain version |
| 11:07.14 | nsadmin | uff yue nu yue wood haf red |
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| 11:08.12 | uzy | xyan: thanx |
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| 11:13.25 | Mowee | Hi |
| 11:14.07 | jelly | uzy: "aptitude hold <package name>" _is_ permanent |
| 11:15.13 | uzy | jelly. u mean no installation/updation of the said package after this by running aptitude update. |
| 11:15.48 | jelly | exactly |
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| 11:18.10 | uzy | great |
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| 11:19.18 | jelly | !tell uzy about hold |
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| 11:22.33 | trash | hello, are multiple post-up options supported in /etc/network/interfaces? I want to add several static routes. |
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| 11:22.42 | trash | (lenny) |
| 11:23.08 | rimmele_mnm | i tried to install texlive-latex-base but the installation was not completed. you can see the error msg here: http://nopaste.martes.de/index.php?id=db34bb5113 can someone help? |
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| 11:23.42 | jelly | trash: you may add more than one post-up line, yes |
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| 11:23.53 | trash | rimmele_mnm: Check /tmp/texlive.fmtutil.wpe20895 |
| 11:23.57 | trash | jelly: Thank you. |
| 11:24.09 | lord_rob | Hi ! Has anybody using sid had the following problem with mysql (which has been updated recently) : "Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed!" |
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| 11:24.58 | jelly | lord_rob: inspect daemon.log for any clues as to the cause. Also check for any old mysqld processes still running |
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| 11:26.07 | lord_rob | jelly: I have this problem on boot (I reproduced the message doing /etc/init.d/mysql restart) |
| 11:26.14 | nsadmin | lord_rob also, if you find yourself asking a person "is X a known problem in Y", search the bts for Y, and for X Y |
| 11:26.40 | nsadmin | oh, forgot something... |
| 11:27.04 | nsadmin | lord_rob also, if you find yourself asking a person "is X a known problem in Y", -STOP-, and -first- search the bts for Y, and for X Y |
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| 11:27.46 | nsadmin | if no results from BTS, it could be you are the first to encounter the problem |
| 11:28.45 | lord_rob | but yeah daemon.log gave me a clue, thanks jelly |
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| 11:28.50 | jelly | he's running sid, I'm sure he checked the bug tracking system first |
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| 11:29.13 | jelly | wonders if he's any good at this sarcasm thing |
| 11:29.28 | nsadmin | I detected no sarcasm :) |
| 11:29.41 | nsadmin | until then :) |
| 11:30.08 | lord_rob | actually I wanted to but I forgot the name of the package :/ |
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| 11:30.54 | jelly | lord_rob: something like dpkg -S /usr/sbin/mysqld would have given you a package name |
| 11:31.34 | jelly | or dlocate /usr/sbin/mysqld, dpkg -S is horribly slow |
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| 11:32.13 | lord_rob | I'm running sid since 2002 so I'm starting to understand what to do when it breaks. But not everything ... |
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| 11:32.28 | rimmele_mnm | trash: http://nopaste.martes.de/index.php?id=24f4c48e6f here is the input of the file... can you help me? |
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| 11:35.49 | jelly | lord_rob: heh. "check the logs" is a good first or second step. |
| 11:35.52 | lord_rob | hmm apt-listbugs did not stop me from upgrading the package and I see no reported bugs |
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| 11:36.04 | lord_rob | so I'll check the logs |
| 11:36.25 | jelly | I thought you already did |
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| 11:37.38 | lord_rob | yes I did |
| 11:37.47 | lord_rob | it says /usr/bin/mysqladmin: is missing |
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| 11:38.09 | lord_rob | I had to deinstall it (dependancy thing) |
| 11:38.24 | rumpsy | nsadmin: heya :) |
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| 11:41.31 | rimmele_mnm | has someone an idea or can help me why i can't install textlive-latex-base |
| 11:41.31 | rimmele_mnm | ? |
| 11:41.53 | tarzeau | rimmele_mnm: beacuse it's called texlive-latex-base? |
| 11:42.41 | d3x | is it normal for lftp to eat about 50% CPU during mirror --parallel 8 ? |
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| 11:47.25 | nsadmin | rumpsy Heya :) what's new? what are you looking for next? |
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| 11:47.41 | slooth | How can I double check that grub did its job fine? (HDD OK, grub-install reports no errors, can't boot.. it never reaches grub at all) |
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| 11:48.21 | nsadmin | where did it install grub to? |
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| 11:48.54 | slooth | /dev/sda ? |
| 11:49.00 | nsadmin | you sure? |
| 11:49.39 | slooth | This is the main problem, how can I be sure? (The command was to install it to /dev/sda, that's what I'm sure of) |
| 11:49.55 | nsadmin | I see |
| 11:50.13 | slooth | (and it reported no errors whatsoever..) |
| 11:50.20 | nsadmin | I'd guess that your bios is not booting sda atm |
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| 11:50.56 | nsadmin | if you install to sda I would assume that would mean to install to the mbr |
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| 11:51.00 | nsadmin | bb |
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| 11:51.34 | slooth | Thanks for your input, bye. |
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| 11:52.57 | nsadmin | that's "be back" |
| 11:53.20 | nsadmin | what was the exact command you ran |
| 11:53.34 | slooth | grub-install /dev/sda |
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| 11:55.39 | nsadmin | has sda ever booted? |
| 11:55.46 | nsadmin | on that machine |
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| 11:58.03 | nsadmin | nonresponsive |
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| 11:58.31 | slooth | nsadmin: Yes. |
| 11:58.47 | nsadmin | describe the last time |
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| 11:59.43 | slooth | nsadmin: It had Microsoft OS on it, but it was on the HDD |
| 12:00.03 | slooth | I'm not sure where you're getting at |
| 12:00.05 | nsadmin | what drive are you booting now? |
| 12:00.08 | slooth | The same.. |
| 12:00.24 | slooth | I'm using livecd atm, but we're talking about the same hdd all the time |
| 12:00.46 | nsadmin | oh, so at this moment the drive does not boot at all? |
| 12:01.15 | slooth | I removed Windows from it, installed Debian, grub, and so on and so forth, and.. as I said in my first post, it hangs after Verifying DMI... |
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| 12:01.49 | nsadmin | hmm. /me forgot where that happens |
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| 12:02.25 | nsadmin | thinks you should consider backing up |
| 12:03.15 | nsadmin | does the partition table look OK? |
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| 12:05.05 | Devastator | nsadmin it could be related to acpi.. or not? |
| 12:05.53 | rumpsy | nsadmin: i feel bore |
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| 12:08.00 | rumpsy | nsadmin: give me where and how to make debian familiar like you guys.. its my dream and i want to be like |
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| 12:08.48 | nsadmin | you would identify the parts of it you want to become familiar with |
| 12:10.30 | slooth | nsadmin: Yeah, fdisk says its all-good. (that shouldn't matter.. I should AT LEAST see the grub screen, then fail completly if there are problems related to sda1 specifically). |
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| 12:11.10 | aguitel | anyone know how install googleearth in squeeze ? |
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| 12:12.20 | nsadmin | slooth, this is your only machine? or if not, can you come here on a different machine? |
| 12:12.30 | d3x | aguitel, ./google-earth-something.run |
| 12:12.33 | slooth | nsadmin: I'm already on different machine.. |
| 12:12.38 | nsadmin | ok |
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| 12:13.47 | HackeMate | hello, i have a gps training, and i wanted to transfer my waypoints to my debian, is there a suite or some application that allows th transfer those .gpx files? |
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| 12:14.08 | nsadmin | could you take a look at the bios settings to see what it says about the drive, and what it says about boot order? |
| 12:14.22 | slooth | nsadmin: Boot order fine, HDD is reported as IDE |
| 12:14.31 | slooth | (Boot order: HDD, then cdrom, etc.) |
| 12:14.51 | nsadmin | is that the only hd in the machine? |
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| 12:16.04 | nsadmin | my thoughts keep returning to the fact the drive used to boot |
| 12:16.41 | slooth | This isn't my machine, I just got it 2 hours ago as a gift, it belonged to Windows user. It booted Windows fine. Let me open it up.. check it out myself |
| 12:16.49 | slooth | (all my information are from bios/lspci,...etc) |
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| 12:17.22 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 12:17.39 | nsadmin | so, no history |
| 12:18.03 | Devastator | slooth it never booted linux fine, right? try to disable apic in bios.. |
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| 12:21.44 | nsadmin | I'm not sure about the following... but I would consider loading the bios default settings, and (much less so) consider upgrading the bios (but hold off on this, look at what features any given new bios would give you) |
| 12:22.11 | abrotman | antgel: you moved? |
| 12:22.29 | antgel | abrotman: *nod* and yo dude |
| 12:22.35 | abrotman | hiya! |
| 12:23.07 | antgel | lovely day for it |
| 12:23.12 | abrotman | moving? |
| 12:23.27 | nsadmin | IT industry? |
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| 12:24.16 | p0g0 | HackeMate: gpsbabel, gpsman... |
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| 12:24.33 | antgel | for... it :D |
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| 12:31.23 | slooth | nsadmin, devastator: I opened the machine to look inside, turns out it has 2 hdd.. I disabled ACPI, guess what? Now it detects both HDD, I can finally read the grub prompt, etc. But now it doesn't mount root filesystem |
| 12:31.28 | slooth | sda/hda mixup, but thats easy to fix. |
| 12:31.36 | slooth | ACPI not only let grub boot but also gave me a hdd. :) |
| 12:31.40 | slooth | Thanks dudes! |
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| 12:33.18 | nsadmin | cost ya a hd!! |
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| 12:34.52 | Devastator | old mobos and buggy acpi |
| 12:37.54 | abrotman | should get bonus points for noticing that antgel moved! |
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| 12:40.17 | d3x | abrotman, http://www.brotherscairns.com.au/assets/Uploads/_resampled/CroppedImage530265-POINTSweb-copy.jpg |
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| 12:46.49 | Skeeter- | I looking at the FAI, Full Auto Installer, the problem is that i cant find how to execute commands or edit files from it |
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| 12:47.39 | jelly | !fai |
| 12:47.39 | dpkg | [fai] Fully Automatic Installation, an automated installation tool to install or deploy Debian GNU/Linux (and other distributions) on a bunch of different hosts or a cluster. It is more flexible than tools like <kickstart> (Red Hat), autoyast and alice (SuSE) or jumpstart (Sun Solaris). FAI can also be used for configuration management of a running system. http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ #fai on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 12:49.12 | inty | hey, is there a way to configure dhcp3-server to lease out a route like "ip r a 192.168.1.74 via 192.168.1.1"..? |
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| 12:54.26 | jozefk | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:56.42 | abrotman | !nopony d3x |
| 12:56.42 | dpkg | d3x: http://sc.tri-bit.com/images/2/23/pony.jpg |
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| 12:56.56 | scratchme | Does anyone know a website which explains the options returned by sginfo -c /dev/sda ? |
| 12:57.12 | nsadmin | man sginfo? |
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| 12:57.43 | nsadmin | , file bin/sginfo |
| 12:57.46 | judd | bin/sginfo in lenny/i386: sg3-utils: usr/bin/sginfo |
| 12:57.46 | scratchme | nsadmin: no, it doesn't say. It tells how to use sginfo, but doesn't explain what each one does. |
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| 12:58.22 | scratchme | For examples, I'd like to know what exactly this option does: Disable Pre-fetch Transfer Length |
| 12:58.48 | scratchme | I tried googling, but I'm either using the wrong terms, or it's not well indexed. |
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| 13:00.42 | scratchme | Basically, I'm making a home-brew storage appliance, but I'd like to know what each option does before I go changing it. |
| 13:00.56 | scratchme | I plan to test after changing a few things and see how much impact it has. |
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| 13:02.23 | nsadmin | look at its copyright file |
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| 13:02.38 | scratchme | Where is that? |
| 13:03.10 | nsadmin | it's in the same basic place in each package |
| 13:03.38 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:03.46 | scratchme | Got it, thanks. I'll read around. |
| 13:04.15 | nsadmin | usually that file will tell you where the maintainer downloaded the software |
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| 13:10.29 | jelly | scratchme: you'll need to get your hands on scsi specs |
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| 13:11.01 | scratchme | jelly: where do I get that? |
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| 13:11.39 | jelly | your guess is as good as mine; t10.org will probably require payment |
| 13:12.09 | scratchme | I'll google a bit and see if anything turns up. |
| 13:12.21 | jelly | right |
| 13:12.49 | scratchme | Basically, I have a machine w/ 2x FC drawers attached. I'd like to optimize it for software raid. |
| 13:13.11 | scratchme | Then export that storage over iscsi for virtual machines. |
| 13:14.13 | jelly | I'm not sure #debian is the best place for your queries; perhaps there's a storage or raid related channel |
| 13:14.51 | scratchme | Well, the other problem is getting called a newb every 10 seconds, which fortunately is at a low in this channel. |
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| 13:15.23 | d3x | scratchme, u noob :P |
| 13:15.32 | scratchme | d3x: doh! ;) |
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| 13:17.13 | scratchme | I did some tests. I'm going to order another 2Gbps FC drawer. Right now, I've got two single port FC cards in the machine, and one 2Gbps 14 drive 15k rpm 73GB FC drive drawer, and another w/ 1Gbps 14 drive 10k rpm 73GB FC. |
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| 13:17.45 | rumpsy | Oops sorry |
| 13:17.46 | scratchme | I found out some interesting things about having two dissimilar drawers, and using the drives together, or separate. |
| 13:18.03 | rumpsy | nsadmin: i forget to say this |
| 13:18.08 | rumpsy | nsadmin: BYE |
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| 13:18.27 | scratchme | I did some sequential tests using: time dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/zero bs=16384 count=1000000 |
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| 13:18.37 | jelly | noob. |
| 13:18.49 | jelly | ;-) |
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| 13:18.58 | scratchme | I also did some tests over iscsi using the IET and iometer. |
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| 13:19.11 | jelly | what, no SCST? :-> |
| 13:19.25 | lvh | anyone know where zmq_server went in the debian zeromq-bin package |
| 13:19.27 | jelly | oh, your clients are on iscsi |
| 13:19.35 | lvh | it appears to only provide devices, I don't understand where you need to get the zeromq server |
| 13:19.44 | scratchme | Yeah, tbh, I'm actually using openfiler atm, but I think I'm going to reinstall either debian, or windows storage server instead. |
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| 13:20.22 | scratchme | Openfiler is interesting at first, but as a webdev, I have to say after a while, their UI gets to be painful. |
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| 13:20.59 | scratchme | For one, I can't figure out why their pages take so long to load. If I invoke the same command via command line it's near-instant. |
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| 13:21.20 | d3x | scratchme, lots of sleep()s ;) |
| 13:21.28 | scratchme | d3x: probably. |
| 13:21.32 | jelly | what's behind openfiler, opensolaris and zfs? |
| 13:21.41 | scratchme | Heh, you wish it could be so good ;) |
| 13:21.48 | scratchme | iirc, it's centos. |
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| 13:21.59 | scratchme | I tried freenas, but it's not really that good. |
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| 13:22.27 | jelly | scratchme: what about that nexenta thing? opensolaris with ubuntu userspace and packaging system |
| 13:22.29 | scratchme | I mostly wanted freenas for zfs + iscsi & snapshots/clones, but their support for those techs is abysmal via the web ui. |
| 13:22.56 | scratchme | jelly: Yeah, I could try nexenta if I can figure out how to repartition the install drive, or if I break the system raid. |
| 13:23.17 | scratchme | I tried nexenta before, but it'll take whatever you install it on, and hog the whole thing for the OS. |
| 13:23.38 | scratchme | If you want to provision ZFS luns over iscsi, you need unpartitioned space. |
| 13:24.02 | jelly | oh, installer issues |
| 13:24.29 | scratchme | Well, since I've got 6x U320 146.8GB 15K RPM drives in RAID 5EE, I'd need to break that into a RAID 1 + whatever, or learn how to install into a smaller subpartition. |
| 13:25.12 | scratchme | I tried adding a USB card, and booting off either the CD or USB stick, but that system doesn't support USB start. |
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| 13:25.51 | scratchme | bbiab, breakfast. |
| 13:26.49 | abrotman | stop teasing me! |
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| 13:30.40 | __klamath__ | little problem |
| 13:30.50 | __klamath__ | cannot receive mails |
| 13:30.57 | __klamath__ | mbox remains empty |
| 13:31.05 | abrotman | did you read the mail log ? |
| 13:31.11 | __klamath__ | while fetchmail download them |
| 13:31.21 | __klamath__ | yes it everything ok |
| 13:31.31 | __klamath__ | while sending |
| 13:31.53 | __klamath__ | but downloading with fetchmail |
| 13:32.05 | __klamath__ | or send them to myself |
| 13:32.15 | __klamath__ | mbox remains empty |
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| 13:32.37 | __klamath__ | permissions of /var/spool/mail/my_user are 640 |
| 13:32.39 | wols | please fix your enter key problem. it's much more urgend |
| 13:32.42 | wols | *t |
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| 13:33.10 | __klamath__ | enter key ???? |
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| 13:33.15 | wols | !enter |
| 13:33.15 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 13:33.29 | __klamath__ | !enter |
| 13:33.29 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 13:33.37 | d3x | omg... |
| 13:34.01 | __klamath__ | ok |
| 13:34.14 | abrotman | __klamath__: which SMTP server? which version of debian ? |
| 13:34.47 | __klamath__ | smtp.fastwebnet.it debian lenny, but the problem is not sending, but receiving |
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| 13:35.12 | wols | not domainname but what MTA: exim, postfix, sendmail,... |
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| 13:35.31 | __klamath__ | ah, postfix |
| 13:35.42 | abrotman | __klamath__: your SMTP server is listening |
| 13:36.05 | jpinx-eeepc | anyone know if the Nokia N86 plugs into lenny as a device that can be mounted using the usb cable? |
| 13:36.10 | __klamath__ | abrotman: How can I see it ? |
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| 13:36.41 | iceroot | __klamath__: telnet ip 25 |
| 13:36.59 | abrotman | __klamath__: maybe you should hire a system admin instead of trying to do this yourself |
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| 13:37.11 | trifler | jpinx-eeepc: Generly most mobile phones with built in memory acts as a storage device, which you can mount. Just select the appropriate option when you plug in our phone. |
| 13:37.14 | wols | iceroot: not really. could be a server that only listens on localhost. nothing more needed for fetchmail |
| 13:37.34 | iceroot | wols: i thought it should be a smtp for the wan |
| 13:37.44 | wols | not when he uses fetchmail :) |
| 13:37.56 | iceroot | __klamath | ah, postfix |
| 13:38.03 | jpinx-eeepc | trifler: I'm considering buying one so I was checking that it would "just work" |
| 13:38.04 | __klamath__ | abrotman: I'm a private |
| 13:38.26 | trifler | jpinx-eeepc: Okey, I can't tell you that for certin. But I assume it would. |
| 13:38.28 | abrotman | i'm a seargent ? |
| 13:38.32 | abrotman | sargeant |
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| 13:38.35 | wols | __klamath__: his advice still applies. even more so |
| 13:38.50 | wols | abrotman: good thing you're only a NCO. /me flashes his officer's patent |
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| 13:39.14 | __klamath__ | iceroot: not it seem smtp is not listening, will try to google |
| 13:39.19 | abrotman | it is listening |
| 13:39.42 | Rahim | need some idea of implementing FOSS in an Hospital |
| 13:39.54 | jpinx-eeepc | trifler: thanks, I'd agree with you - just fishing here for hands on experience ; |
| 13:39.55 | iceroot | __klamath__: telnet smtp.fastwebnet.it 25 220 aa012msr.fastwebnet.it ESMTP Service ready |
| 13:40.01 | yareckon | Rahim, tell em it's healthy |
| 13:40.09 | wols | iceroot: that's his ISP |
| 13:40.23 | Rahim | need softwares names |
| 13:40.24 | iceroot | wols: hm maybe i should read the whole posting here... |
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| 13:41.18 | abrotman | Rahim: software for what exactly ? |
| 13:41.25 | __klamath__ | iceroot: maybe I'm wrong, but smtp works correctly, tried to send email to external addr and it works |
| 13:41.49 | __klamath__ | the problem is receiving email |
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| 13:42.01 | Rahim | otl foss implementaion like data of patients, discharge etc and financial softwares too |
| 13:42.15 | Rahim | do we have any solution YET? |
| 13:42.25 | bzrk | Rahim: mysql postgresql |
| 13:42.33 | jelly | __klamath__: then, check your mail logs on the server. |
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| 13:43.10 | __klamath__ | iceroot: I run fetchmail and logs say that it dowload emails, but mbox remains empty |
| 13:43.13 | abrotman | Rahim: you want a turn-key solution for records management in a hospital ? that's F/OSS ? |
| 13:43.21 | jelly | __klamath__: which domain, or which email address is failing to receive mail? Which debian release are you running on the server? |
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| 13:43.31 | SerajewelKS | Rahim: google medsphere |
| 13:43.32 | iceroot | __klamath__: ah ok, you are using fetchmal to get mails from your isp |
| 13:43.42 | Rahim | ok will do that |
| 13:43.44 | __klamath__ | iceroot: yes |
| 13:43.48 | bzrk | Rahim: http://oshms.codeplex.com/ |
| 13:43.57 | serengeti | hi, is it possible to customize ufw limit options from the command line? I'd like to do something like "ufw limit ssh 100/minute", but working ;) |
| 13:44.23 | bzrk | Rahim: http://www.google.de/search?q=hospital+management+open+source |
| 13:44.33 | __klamath__ | jelly: if I send mail to myself internally They don't arrives |
| 13:44.48 | SerajewelKS | bzrk: oh no you di'int! |
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| 13:44.58 | bzrk | SerajewelKS: sorry :( |
| 13:44.59 | __klamath__ | jelly: not to myself, not to root |
| 13:45.08 | bzrk | SerajewelKS: it just came over me |
| 13:45.09 | jelly | __klamath__: do you have access to mail logs on the server? |
| 13:45.14 | SerajewelKS | bzrk: :) |
| 13:45.22 | scratchme | jelly: I just found a nice page talking about what I was asking. |
| 13:45.33 | jelly | scratchme: nice, url? |
| 13:45.34 | __klamath__ | jelly: /var/log/email ?? |
| 13:45.38 | scratchme | http://ldkelley.com/SCSI2/SCSI2/SCSI2-09.html |
| 13:45.46 | jelly | __klamath__: /var/log/mail.log in debian usually |
| 13:45.57 | __klamath__ | jelly: yes |
| 13:46.48 | scratchme | jelly: In the example I was talking about "Disable Pre-fetch Transfer Length" is the length which above that value, pre-fetch cache is ignored, and it attempts to read it off disk. |
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| 13:47.59 | __klamath__ | jelly: everything seems ok in /var/log/mail.log |
| 13:48.15 | abrotman | pastebin ? |
| 13:48.31 | scratchme | jelly: I'll have to keep reading to see how that differs from Maximum Pre-Fetch and Maximum Pre-Fetch Ceiling |
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| 13:48.52 | jelly | well, if everything is ok, obviously there's no reason to continue helping... |
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| 13:50.21 | __klamath__ | http://pastebin.com/aK7hakNG |
| 13:51.25 | linelevel | Hi all, does anyone know what algorithm Qmail uses to encrypt passwords? |
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| 13:51.58 | Titan8990 | linelevel: I don't think qmail handles any type of authentication without the use of a 3rd party patch |
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| 13:52.16 | Titan8990 | atleast not username/password auth |
| 13:52.26 | __klamath__ | jelly: everything is ok inside the log, but mbox remains empty |
| 13:52.51 | Uid | how do i fix this error |
| 13:52.54 | Uid | http://pastebin.com/MA2nPfD5 |
| 13:53.10 | Uid | reinstalled the os one time because of it. |
| 13:53.17 | Uid | happend in the second boot |
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| 13:53.50 | Titan8990 | Uid: what release? |
| 13:53.53 | Uid | bt4 |
| 13:53.58 | Sergio` | Shouldn't I get a route up to www.google.com with traceroute? I only get * * * and the destination at the end, no route. |
| 13:54.24 | Titan8990 | Uid: we do not support bt4 here, go to #backtrack-linux |
| 13:54.29 | Uid | ok |
| 13:54.31 | Uid | thanks |
| 13:54.36 | d3x | Sergio`, only if hosts in between respond to your ping request |
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| 13:55.00 | jelly | __klamath__: assuming you're testing with user rob@*, the mails seem to get delivered to user's maildir. Disable your fetchmail job, check that they're there on the server, and if they are, you'll know fetchmail has issues and not anything on the server. |
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| 13:55.36 | Sergio` | d3x: my router for example responds to ping and doesn't show up in traceroute. |
| 13:56.03 | Breaking_Pitt | someone knows what is the latest value for the Standards-Version in a debian package? |
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| 13:56.45 | E-bola | How can i make bind not log so much info in /var/log/messages? |
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| 13:56.53 | E-bola | i couldnt find any relevant vars in /etc/bind |
| 13:56.57 | __klamath__ | jelly: forget for one minute fetchmail. I cannot send email to root and root cannot send to me, or they are sent ( from what the log says ) but they don't arrives |
| 13:56.58 | Titan8990 | Breaking_Pitt: believe that is dictated by the current version of the policy manual |
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| 13:57.26 | Breaking_Pitt | so i'll take a look at it, thanks Titan8990 |
| 13:57.31 | Titan8990 | E-bola: you can probably configure rsyslog to split it into a new file |
| 13:57.45 | E-bola | Titan8990: Well i dont want it logged at all |
| 13:57.59 | E-bola | my system is a debian lenny antispam gateway, so it does a ton of dns lookups |
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| 13:58.06 | E-bola | and i dont wanna know about everytime an RBL lookup fails |
| 13:58.08 | jelly | __klamath__: to=<rob at linux-4wn9.site>, orig_to=<rob>, relay=local, delay=0.51, delays=0.42/0.02/0/0.07, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to maildir) # they're delivered to a local Maildir, you just have to figure out where on the system it is. |
| 13:58.19 | nvz | anyone have any idea why Totem would popup this dialog trying to play an AVI off my rootfs "(-) An error occured: Failed to connect stream: No such entity"? |
| 13:58.52 | __klamath__ | jelly: ok |
| 13:59.21 | nvz | nm, seems to be pulse audio related and stopping PA would suit me for now rather than figuring it out.. heh |
| 13:59.53 | PyroPhelia | Can anybody recomend a good cost effective 48 switch? Are there any that run OSS? I like catalyst equipment but it's too expensive to deploy. I've tried Cisco's small business linksys line but they're complete ass. 802.3ad works when it wants to, not when we need it :/ DHCP is also hit or miss. |
| 14:00.08 | nvz | ah.. got it to work with PA anyhow, just had to select the right sink |
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| 14:02.35 | jelly | __klamath__: http://workaround.org/f=postfix, read about "debug". There're probably better ways to check the destination for a local address, but I don't know about them right now. Try asing #postfix channel. |
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| 14:10.07 | hingwah | does anyone get a 100% CPU usage on Xorg when using iceweasel after upgrade in unstable? |
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| 14:11.47 | linduxed | has anyone come across the problem of having all video being black? |
| 14:12.17 | scratchme | linduxed: I have no idea how to fix it, but it sounds like a decoder problem. |
| 14:12.26 | jelly | or an xvideo issue |
| 14:12.39 | linduxed | hmmm |
| 14:12.44 | linduxed | sounds reasonable |
| 14:12.52 | linduxed | because it affects all video |
| 14:12.53 | jelly | linduxed: does mplayer -vo x11 file work? |
| 14:12.59 | linduxed | regardless of players |
| 14:13.28 | scratchme | For most players except a few, they typically use centrally installed video decoders. |
| 14:13.30 | linduxed | jelly: hmm, yeah it did |
| 14:13.37 | jelly | linduxed: and -vo xv ? |
| 14:13.50 | linduxed | jelly: nope |
| 14:13.52 | jelly | right |
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| 14:14.00 | linduxed | that gives a black video |
| 14:14.27 | jelly | linduxed: check for any leftover player processes and murder them mercilessly |
| 14:14.52 | scratchme | jelly: You premeditated process murderer! |
| 14:14.52 | linduxed | ive just rebooted... |
| 14:15.03 | jelly | scratchme: oh yeah |
| 14:15.22 | jelly | linduxed: upgraded any xorg or kernels lately? |
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| 14:15.35 | linduxed | hmmm |
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| 14:15.37 | linduxed | kernels no |
| 14:15.41 | linduxed | xorg... |
| 14:15.51 | linduxed | dunno, how'd i check on the xorg part |
| 14:15.56 | linduxed | ? |
| 14:16.24 | jelly | linduxed: pastebin the outputs of "dpkg -l libc6 xserver-xorg\* |grep ^.i ", uname -r, xvinfo |
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| 14:20.36 | linduxed | first command gives nothing |
| 14:20.41 | linduxed | second... |
| 14:20.53 | linduxed | 2.6.32.9-candela |
| 14:21.12 | linduxed | third |
| 14:21.16 | wols | !mepis |
| 14:21.17 | dpkg | MEPIS is a live CD distribution based on Debian Lenny (as of version 8.0). SimplyMEPIS and antiX are not supported in #debian. http://www.mepis.org/ #mepis on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>. |
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| 14:21.33 | linduxed | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/200850/ |
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| 14:21.49 | wols | linduxed: please go to #mepis. thank you |
| 14:21.59 | linduxed | wols: im not using mepis... |
| 14:22.02 | wols | you are |
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| 14:22.16 | linduxed | i updated to that kernel with the tool called kernelcheck |
| 14:22.20 | gp5st | does anyone know of a service that links together arbitrary services e.g.: calendar, email, del.ico.us, evernote, &c? so that i can basically look at one tag and see all things in each of those services associated with that tag? I don't mean a social media aggregator. I want to bring together different services (caldav, del.ico.us, ldap, imap, evernote, &c) to be grouped and viewed |
| 14:22.31 | linduxed | it said it was going to get the latest kernel |
| 14:22.38 | linduxed | it got me a candela |
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| 14:23.00 | wols | linduxed: there is no kernelcheck in debian. however there is a kernelcheck in mepis. any more questions. now go away |
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| 14:25.12 | linduxed | wols: well i'm not, and i've never used mepis, i downloaded the kernelcheck tool from sourceforge. but i guess that now that you have branded me i won't get any more tips |
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| 14:27.35 | jelly | linduxed: alright, and those package versions? |
| 14:27.50 | jelly | try quoting '^.i' |
| 14:27.59 | jelly | or just omit the grep |
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| 14:28.39 | linduxed | jelly: hmm, still no output |
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| 14:28.51 | linduxed | jelly: i must be quoting it wrong or something |
| 14:28.59 | linduxed | jelly: let me check for a second |
| 14:29.00 | jelly | linduxed: dpkg -l libc6 xserver-xorg* gives no output? |
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| 14:29.22 | Titan8990 | who needs libc6 anyways.... |
| 14:29.44 | jelly | Titan8990: people trusting but verifying the debian release used |
| 14:30.08 | aleray | hi, what firewall would you advice me to use to protect my server? I tried installing ufw but it doesn't seem to be in the stable repo |
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| 14:30.20 | Titan8990 | jelly: that was a failed attempt at sarcasm |
| 14:30.24 | linduxed | jelly: my shell just returns an errorcode all the time... |
| 14:30.26 | linduxed | hmmm |
| 14:30.27 | wols | jelly: there kernel alone is from god knows where, so why do you think all other packages aren't frm all over the map either? |
| 14:30.34 | jelly | Titan8990: my detection is wonky today |
| 14:30.44 | wols | aleray: what do you need a firewall for? |
| 14:31.11 | jelly | wols: because using custom kernels is not unusual |
| 14:31.18 | aleray | wols, I want to open only ports 80 and 22 |
| 14:31.26 | Titan8990 | jelly: using a kernel from a different distro is however |
| 14:32.01 | Titan8990 | aleray: then only run services on port 80 and 22 and that is all that will be open |
| 14:32.11 | jelly | during better part of woody-sarge-etch one had to use a custom kernel to stay on top of security issues |
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| 14:32.29 | linduxed | Titan8990: i got the tip for the kernelcheck thing before i read about backporting, so that might have gotten me into this mess |
| 14:33.00 | Titan8990 | linduxed: I looked at the sourceforge page and the comments say that the tool is long dead... even reports of it no longer working |
| 14:33.08 | Titan8990 | suprised you got it to do anything |
| 14:33.17 | wols | Titan8990: there is a ITP from july 2009 |
| 14:33.18 | linduxed | Titan8990: :-S |
| 14:33.39 | wols | linduxed: does "dpkg -l" show you stuff? |
| 14:33.41 | linduxed | Titan8990: well it did flash with some errors before it stared installing.... |
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| 14:34.09 | wols | Titan8990: I'm still wondering how a debian installation woulg download mepis packages. must be a mgicaly sources.list |
| 14:35.09 | Titan8990 | wols: the tool says that it checks kernel.org... guess that means mepis stays inline with upstream kernel releases |
| 14:35.53 | jelly | I just wonder where that 2.6.32.9-candela thing comes from, it doesn't seem quite vanilla |
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| 14:37.16 | wols | jelly: it's a mepis kernel |
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| 14:41.10 | alexxio | anyone knows about clonezilla support? |
| 14:42.01 | Titan8990 | alexxio: clonezilla is a livecd... are you looking for a clonezilla support channel? |
| 14:42.09 | alexxio | yes |
| 14:42.19 | alexxio | 'cause it doesn't boot (waiting for root) |
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| 14:42.59 | nsadmin | what happens when you google for clonezilla support channel |
| 14:43.24 | Titan8990 | alexxio: their webpage shows a mailing list and a forum |
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| 14:44.58 | alexxio | yes i asked here 'cause i read that clonezilla boot is striclty connected to debian, and hoping that someone could tell me: ask here, that's the same |
| 14:45.01 | alexxio | :) |
| 14:45.13 | wols | !clonezilla |
| 14:45.13 | dpkg | Clonezilla Live is a live CD disk/partition cloning tool similar to Symantec Ghost. Based on Debian, Partition Image, <ntfsclone>, et al. http://www.clonezilla.org/ See also <based on Debian>. |
| 14:45.18 | wols | see the "based on debian" part |
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| 14:54.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | !based on debian |
| 14:54.23 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it probably falls short of Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. If your distribution has an IRC channel, you can use it instead. Even if your distribution has fewer people in its IRC channel, or doesn't have one, support for distributions other than Debian is off-topic on #debian. |
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| 14:54.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't think he knows a lot about tth bot.. |
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| 15:03.18 | aleray | Titan8990, wols thsi si the ports opened on my server http://dpaste.com/182855/ I'm just responsible for port 22, 80 and 8080 opening the rest I don't know where it comes from (my host is gandi.net) should I stop the services using the other ports then? I imagine it has some use for my host if it's there by defaut |
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| 15:06.02 | Titan8990 | aleray: when you see "filtered" instead of closed, that indicates the presence of a firewall or NAT device to begin with |
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| 15:06.29 | jelly | Titan8990: how does it know ?!?! |
| 15:06.51 | aleray | Titan8990, where does this filtering comes from? sorry for my lame question |
| 15:07.23 | aleray | (iptables's not here apparently) |
| 15:07.28 | Titan8990 | jelly: I believe it has something to do with the way the packets are rejected, i.e. dropped or rejected |
| 15:07.32 | wols | aleray: nmap is a shitty way to check what ports one has open. run netstat -plut |less |
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| 15:08.11 | wols | preferable as root |
| 15:08.28 | Titan8990 | netstat -plut | pager; |
| 15:08.57 | aleray | wols, Titan8990 http://dpaste.com/182860/ |
| 15:09.09 | aleray | thansk I didn't know that one |
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| 15:10.48 | wols | jelly: as you can see from those two different pastes, it doesn't. nmap is a POS |
| 15:11.36 | Titan8990 | those ports could have been filtered by the ISP or hosting provider |
| 15:11.51 | wols | you mean like the open ICQ port? |
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| 15:13.04 | jelly | dunno, nmap has served me well |
| 15:13.07 | Titan8990 | wols: its a fairly simple technique... its send a SYN packet, if it recieves a SYN, ACK back, it reports it as open |
| 15:13.31 | wols | and why would anything say "ICQ is open"? |
| 15:14.04 | Titan8990 | because something must have responded to the syn packets |
| 15:14.27 | Titan8990 | I know, doesn't make any sense if there is no daemon listening.... |
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| 15:15.03 | Titan8990 | wols: maybe his hosting provider uses an ICQ proxy? |
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| 15:17.21 | aleray | Titan8990, dunno all I can say is that it's a great hosting provider: http://www.gandi.net/ :-) They have a chan on freenode at #gandi-hosting i will ask them latter cause now I have to run but thanks for your great help!! brb |
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| 15:18.26 | linduxed | jelly: im terribly sorry i had to run off |
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| 15:18.48 | linduxed | jelly: i got the dpkg command to work btw |
| 15:18.53 | linduxed | http://paste.pocoo.org/show/200985/ |
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| 15:19.32 | linduxed | jelly: but i think i'll settle for the x11 solution for now |
| 15:19.33 | jelly | that looks reasonably lennyish |
| 15:19.56 | linduxed | jelly: it works, until it explodes in my face i won't complain |
| 15:20.08 | linduxed | jelly: still have no idea why it happens |
| 15:20.15 | linduxed | stuff worked this morning |
| 15:20.17 | b0fh_ua | Hi there! I have the problem with screen. After logging in as user A, then I am doing 'sudo su - B' and trying to read screen, running for user B. I am getting error about permission denied for /dev/pts/2 |
| 15:20.19 | linduxed | but oh well |
| 15:20.20 | jelly | linduxed: that's completely nonaccelerated. You may try vo gl or gl2 if you have libgl1-mesa-dri installed |
| 15:20.33 | b0fh_ua | If I change mode for this device, it works well |
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| 15:20.42 | b0fh_ua | how do I do that automatically? with udev? |
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| 15:21.25 | abrotman | b0fh_ua: you want userA to see userB's screen session ? |
| 15:21.39 | linduxed | jelly: i read somewhere that judging by the mplayer errors i got, it could have been that it was looking for accel that broke it |
| 15:21.49 | b0fh_ua | abrotman: No, I want to become user B and see his screens |
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| 15:22.07 | linduxed | jelly: but i'll just try fiddling around and see where it carries me |
| 15:22.08 | abrotman | why not just 'su - B" ? |
| 15:22.27 | b0fh_ua | abrotman: because this account doesn't have a password |
| 15:22.41 | d3x | b0fh_ua, the only way i found was chmod 777 `tty` |
| 15:22.48 | jelly | abrotman: tty stays owned by the old user, screen can't be attached |
| 15:23.24 | jelly | b0fh_ua: as root, chown B `tty`, su - B, screen -x |
| 15:23.35 | linduxed | jelly: hmmm, i'll try installing the gl2 stuff |
| 15:23.35 | JyZyXEL | if you have a filesystem made directly to the block device (mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda) wouldn't it still be possible to shrink the existing filesystem and add another after it? |
| 15:23.40 | jelly | b0fh_ua: afterwards, chown the tty back |
| 15:23.52 | JyZyXEL | even if it doesn't have a partition table |
| 15:23.52 | b0fh_ua | jelly: is there any way to automate this? |
| 15:23.55 | linduxed | jelly: but why the .... did the stuff work earlier.... |
| 15:23.57 | abrotman | b0fh_ua: that doesn't mean you hav eto use sudo |
| 15:24.12 | d3x | but probably it is possible to set permissions for /dev/tty* permanently |
| 15:24.34 | b0fh_ua | d3x: that would be great, if it is possible to set permissions upon device creation |
| 15:24.48 | JyZyXEL | or is it possible to add a partition table? |
| 15:24.57 | d3x | b0fh_ua, i dont know how to do it though |
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| 15:25.17 | b0fh_ua | it seems that nobody does |
| 15:25.19 | b0fh_ua | btw |
| 15:25.24 | linduxed | jelly: ooooh, gl and gl2 works! |
| 15:25.37 | b0fh_ua | as far as I found in google, this problem appears so often |
| 15:25.39 | d3x | linduxed, what gfx card? |
| 15:25.48 | wols | JyZyXEL: both |
| 15:25.56 | b0fh_ua | and no solid solution - still some hacks about chown/chmod |
| 15:25.59 | linduxed | d3x: some intel, how do i check? |
| 15:26.08 | d3x | linduxed, lspci should tell |
| 15:26.14 | b0fh_ua | for some reason under FreeBSD or CentOS it works fine |
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| 15:26.19 | abrotman | judd: info snoopy --release lenny |
| 15:26.20 | judd | snoopy (admin, optional): An execve() wrapper and logger. Version: 1.3-15; Size: 12.1k; Installed: 92k; Homepage: http://sourceforge.net/projects/snoopylogger/ |
| 15:26.25 | d3x | i would suggest to try -vo va |
| 15:26.26 | jelly | linduxed: gl2 uses a bit more cpu compared to xv on my i915GM, but has bilinear interpolation when resized (= in fullscreen) |
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| 15:26.28 | abrotman | b0fh_ua: look at 'snoopy' |
| 15:26.33 | abrotman | that description is awful |
| 15:26.38 | d3x | but you have to patch mplayer for this |
| 15:26.50 | jelly | d3x: va on an Intel card? |
| 15:26.54 | d3x | jelly, sure |
| 15:27.03 | b0fh_ua | '-rwsr-sr-x 1 root utmp 368256 2009-05-02 12:47 /usr/bin/screen' - does this mean that screen binary has suid-root? |
| 15:27.16 | d3x | that' inntel's technology afair |
| 15:27.18 | jelly | b0fh_ua: yes. |
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| 15:27.47 | b0fh_ua | weird, so why it doesn't want to change ownership at startup? |
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| 15:28.13 | d3x | jelly, it allows for smooth 1080p playbach :) |
| 15:28.15 | jelly | b0fh_ua: why would it let you access other people's tty? That'd be a security issue. |
| 15:28.21 | d3x | *playback |
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| 15:28.53 | b0fh_ua | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=257676 |
| 15:29.01 | d3x | b0fh_ua, replace screen with some wrapper script |
| 15:29.04 | jelly | b0fh_ua: read about screen's multiuser feature, perhaps that's what you're after |
| 15:29.31 | orak3l | i have an empty folder with specific user:group. if i mount with root like mount DEV FOLDER permissions are changed to root:root. i expected "mount" to honor the permissions already set. how can i tell that permissions should be kepts as they are? |
| 15:29.51 | d3x | orak3l, man mount |
| 15:30.13 | d3x | (especially -o user) |
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| 15:30.36 | \amethyst | I guess the "solution" would be to have sudo and/or su chown the tty, but that has its own problems |
| 15:30.39 | jelly | b0fh_ua: fwiw, I disagree with the maintainer and don't think that's a bug at all |
| 15:30.43 | lautriv | is there any other difference beside the uid/gid between systems users/groups and users users/groups ? |
| 15:31.11 | d3x | lautriv, ?! |
| 15:31.56 | orak3l | d3x, i know about the options. i have a lot of folders with different combinations of user:group. mount should keep the already set permissions |
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| 15:32.01 | b0fh_ua | jelly: screen multiuser may be fine - but I have to start software in screen under the user C |
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| 15:32.14 | d3x | orak3l, no, it shouldn't :) |
| 15:32.17 | lautriv | d3x, i meant all system users and groups are between 100 and 500 while users ar 100 and above, is this the only registered difference ? |
| 15:32.18 | b0fh_ua | which should never have any TTY assigned, since login is disabled for him |
| 15:32.32 | lautriv | s/are 1000 |
| 15:33.02 | d3x | lautriv, just a convention. no problem to have "user user" with uid=666 |
| 15:33.13 | jelly | b0fh_ua: you'll have to start that screen detached, then. No biggie |
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| 15:33.32 | orak3l | d3x, it should not be the default way. but at least configurable |
| 15:33.50 | jelly | b0fh_ua: but screen will create and open a tty for each screen and process run |
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| 15:35.01 | \amethyst | I thought you said -maxdepth 1 |
| 15:35.02 | \amethyst | doh |
| 15:35.04 | lautriv | d3x, iknow the override, let me explain in another way using adduser/addgroup with --system respects the range if not overridden, does it anything else for --system ? |
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| 15:35.46 | b0fh_ua | jelly: it doesn't even start |
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| 15:36.56 | HackeMate | hello, how can I import my gpx file from a gps to my debian? |
| 15:36.58 | vcs | http://pastebin.com/MA2nPfD5 help please |
| 15:37.04 | _KaszpiR_ | hm, i got an issue with debian server etch |
| 15:37.05 | HackeMate | is there a software like for bluetooths? |
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| 15:37.25 | _KaszpiR_ | when it starts i see it freezez for overa mintue after dhcpcd starts |
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| 15:37.43 | lautriv | Hacke, sure bluez-* |
| 15:38.06 | lautriv | Hacke, ups, lost the first post |
| 15:38.11 | HackeMate | but is not a common bluetooth (I believe) |
| 15:38.12 | HackeMate | yes :) |
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| 15:45.14 | Galaen | hello |
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| 15:47.15 | wwarrior | how old is debian ? |
| 15:47.51 | Devastator | wwarrior did you checked debian's website? |
| 15:47.52 | halflife08 | wwarrior: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ |
| 15:48.13 | wwarrior | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:58.13 | roe | I understand that I am delving into an oft discussed and debated subject, but here it goes... Resource profiling. |
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| 15:59.42 | roe | I am interested in finding the bottle neck of a particular system. Specifically, what bottleneck am I hitting, CPU or I/O. I can get instantaneous information using top, but I would like something like cacti/nagios-grapher or the like to be able to draw me a more complete picture complete with the offending processes |
| 16:00.06 | roe | I am sure I am not the first to want this |
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| 16:05.23 | nsadmin | roe but if you built such a thing, would you be the first to do so and release it gpl? |
| 16:05.29 | danners | hey i need help resizing a lvm. if i do it with pvresize, it says that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/413196/ but how can i move the root part to previous physical extends? |
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| 16:06.31 | jelly | danners: you're trying to shrink that pv |
| 16:06.32 | jelly | ? |
| 16:06.42 | danners | jelly: yes |
| 16:06.54 | jelly | danners: man pvmove |
| 16:07.17 | jelly | danners: move away the lvs above 26367 |
| 16:07.55 | nsadmin | is the contained fs shrunk already? |
| 16:07.56 | danners | jelly: i already tried that with pvmove bla:35535-37962 bla:23684-35534 |
| 16:08.03 | danners | nsadmin: yes |
| 16:08.16 | danners | jelly: but it gives me the same error |
| 16:08.54 | nsadmin | maybe you could temporarily add a pv to the vg and try moving again |
| 16:09.09 | jelly | danners: one would imagine it's possible to move them around in the same pv, but I haven't tried that ever. Perhaps creating a temporary pv someplace else, moving there and back would accomplish the defragmentation. I'm just guessing. |
| 16:09.29 | danners | jelly: okay will try that |
| 16:09.42 | jelly | nsadmin: hey, stop cutting in with shorter answers that say the same thing! |
| 16:10.00 | jelly | I think there's a lvm channel. |
| 16:10.04 | jelly | !lvm |
| 16:10.04 | dpkg | lvm is probably the Linux Logical Volume Manager (http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/). Resources: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/, http://dev.riseup.net/grimoire/storage/lvm2/, <lvm_tutorial>, <lvm removedisk>, <lvm movelv>, <install using lvm>, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/410, http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/wiki/ IRC: #lvm on irc.freenode.net. |
| 16:10.29 | nsadmin | yuh, DERE it is! |
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| 16:10.40 | jelly | whoop |
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| 16:10.48 | roe | nsadmin, I'd love to build such a thing and gpl it.... |
| 16:10.57 | danners | jelly: thanks |
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| 16:11.08 | roe | but before I re-invent the wheel, I'd like to kick other people's tires |
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| 16:12.04 | nsadmin | roe: right, expected that. before you start, you would have to ask yourself "What is the highest, best use of my time" |
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| 16:12.37 | jelly | expected the question be "Do I feel lucky" |
| 16:12.47 | roe | nsadmin, correct, and at the moment the best use of my time is asking #debian what do you use |
| 16:12.50 | jhutchins_lt | roe: sysstat |
| 16:13.43 | jelly | iostat from that package. atop does logging, so I guess the data may be graphed afterwards in whatever |
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| 16:14.15 | nsadmin | graphederward! |
| 16:14.17 | jelly | iotop doesn't do logging |
| 16:14.36 | jelly | !versions atop |
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| 16:14.41 | jelly | er. |
| 16:14.43 | jelly | ,versions atop |
| 16:14.44 | judd | atop -- etch: 1.16-2; lenny: 1.23-1; sid: 1.23-1; squeeze: 1.23-1 |
| 16:14.51 | nsadmin | grafd dafd afderward! |
| 16:15.13 | jelly | dpkg: annoy nsadmin |
| 16:15.13 | dpkg | jelly: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
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| 16:15.22 | jelly | that backfired |
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| 16:16.10 | nsadmin | a smoky black powdery backfire too! |
| 16:16.23 | jelly | that does it. |
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| 16:16.29 | jelly | !penixstrike |
| 16:16.29 | dpkg | Dozens of Penices shower from the heavens, pummelling the inhabitants of #debian, leaving half-conscious debian users and wet spots everywhere. |
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| 16:17.33 | nsadmin | "you have to ask yourself, do I feel lucky... well, do yuh... spunk?" |
| 16:17.47 | wols | I protest strongly against this gender bias |
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| 16:18.01 | wols | I demand either !vulvastrike or a !breaststrike |
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| 16:18.21 | nsadmin | vulvix! |
| 16:18.29 | jelly | I don't think there were regulars named like that. |
| 16:18.35 | jelly | !seen Penix |
| 16:18.36 | dpkg | penix <~wenas@unaffiliated/penix> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 53d 7h 51m 23s ago, saying: 'yeah, because that's the first time anyone's told someone to google it...'. |
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| 16:18.52 | nsadmin | oh, lonely then... |
| 16:19.38 | cubuanic | hi guys. i tried update kernel to 2.6.32, but got same problem as in #576758. ok, no problem - i can rebuild it, i think. so i run "apt-get source linux-image-2.6.32-4-openvz-amd64", and got sources for 2.6.33. why???? |
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| 16:20.56 | jack_1 | suggestion for an app which I can use to write messages for twitter and facebook? |
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| 16:21.10 | Oleg | google chrome? |
| 16:21.21 | jack_1 | I tried TweetDeck, but it doesn't support fluxbox |
| 16:21.27 | jack_1 | Oleg: no |
| 16:21.27 | wols | jack_1: we use webbrowsers |
| 16:21.34 | jack_1 | wols: we don't |
| 16:21.42 | Oleg | pidgin? |
| 16:21.50 | nsadmin | rowsers for webbs |
| 16:21.56 | Oleg | wait, does that do twitter? |
| 16:22.07 | Oleg | I know digsby does but I don't think they added support for linux yet |
| 16:22.11 | nsadmin | or more correctly, does that tweet? |
| 16:22.39 | Titan8990 | I don't twitter or facebook... but google crhome does have an emacs plugin you can write your messages in :) |
| 16:22.49 | devious | Choqok works okay in testing. |
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| 16:23.25 | nsadmin | do you want just to be able to write messages, or do you want to improve the messages you write? |
| 16:23.37 | devious | Similar to tweetdeck, but it's tabbed instead of a hud. And no adobe air non-sense. |
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| 16:23.56 | Titan8990 | cubuanic: possibly because squeeze/sid is a moving target. |
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| 16:25.11 | jhutchins_lt | ping.fm? |
| 16:25.12 | cubuanic | then why i got description of 2.6.32 (not .33!) when i run "aptitude show linux-image-2.6.32-4-openvz-amd64" ?\ |
| 16:25.39 | Titan8990 | cubuanic: maybe your pulling the source package from experimental |
| 16:25.48 | jack_1 | gwibber |
| 16:25.50 | jack_1 | thanks |
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| 16:26.50 | cubuanic | afaik, 2.6.32 now is only in unstable, isn't? then is just no other alternative |
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| 16:27.17 | Titan8990 | cubuanic: testing, unstable, and lenny-backports |
| 16:27.21 | Titan8990 | judd: kernels |
| 16:27.22 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.33-2-686 (2.6.33-1~experimental.4); sid: 2.6.32-4-686 (2.6.32-11); squeeze: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.3-686 (2.6.32-9~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-21lenny4); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
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| 16:30.26 | cubuanic | well, ok.... i just tried "apt-get source -t squeeze linux-image-2.6.32-4-openvz-amd64" and got messages "Skipping already downloaded file 'linux-2.6_2.6.33-1~experimental.4.dsc'" and so on (for .tag.gz nad .diff.gz). may be, i doing something wrong? |
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| 16:33.12 | Oleg | delete the cache? |
| 16:33.13 | Titan8990 | cubuanic: your doing exactly what I said you doing earlier. Your fetching the source package from experimental. hence the "expermintal" in the name |
| 16:33.50 | Titan8990 | cubuanic: if you want to fetch the sources from unstable, specify unstable.... you should know this if you are running testing or sid |
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| 16:34.58 | cubuanic | could you give me proper command? seems i'm missing something fundamental |
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| 16:35.17 | Titan8990 | cubuanic: "man aptitude"... look at -t |
| 16:35.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | he used that |
| 16:35.37 | cubuanic | "apt-get source -t squeeze linux-image-2.6.32-4-openvz-amd64" ?... |
| 16:35.44 | cubuanic | i already tried it |
| 16:35.46 | Titan8990 | oh.. I apologize |
| 16:35.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | try "-t testing" - the name has to match what you have in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:36.02 | cubuanic | ok, thx, one min.... |
| 16:36.10 | azeem | cubuanic: squeeze has -3-, not -4- |
| 16:36.22 | jelly | ,kernels |
| 16:36.24 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.33-2-686 (2.6.33-1~experimental.4); sid: 2.6.32-4-686 (2.6.32-11); squeeze: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.3-686 (2.6.32-9~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-21lenny4); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 16:36.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | but why do you need the source? |
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| 16:37.18 | cubuanic | "apt-get source -t testing linux-image-2.6.32-4-openvz-amd64" -> give me same messages as i said above: "Skipping already downloaded file 'linux-2.6_2.6.33-1~experimental.4.dsc'" and so on |
| 16:37.25 | cubuanic | because of #576758 |
| 16:37.42 | cubuanic | i want install .32 but can't, because of this bug |
| 16:38.02 | cubuanic | so i want fix it locally, rebuild and install |
| 16:38.23 | azeem | eh |
| 16:38.33 | Titan8990 | cubuanic: you can always manually fetch packages from packages.debian.org |
| 16:38.38 | azeem | why don't you fix it locally in the unpacked binary package? |
| 16:38.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | and you're on testing? |
| 16:39.01 | Titan8990 | cubuanic: although, I don't see anything wrong with installing the .deb for the kernel |
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| 16:39.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | just use a version previous to -11 |
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| 16:40.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | squeeze has 2.6.32-3 (or 9?) |
| 16:41.14 | cubuanic | sorry, was on phone.... |
| 16:41.51 | cubuanic | azeem: because i'm not confident how to do this correctly |
| 16:42.00 | cubuanic | CutMeOwnThroat: yes, i'm on testing |
| 16:42.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | I think you have things messed up |
| 16:42.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | pastebin the output of apt-cache policy |
| 16:42.19 | azeem | cubuanic: isn't the bug against unstable? |
| 16:42.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes |
| 16:42.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | the testing version should be fine |
| 16:42.53 | cubuanic | Titan8990: i'm tried install from .deb, but can't because of #576758 |
| 16:43.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | so we wonder why he tried to install the sid kernel anyway |
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| 16:43.12 | cubuanic | well, really i'm on mix of testing/stable/unstable |
| 16:43.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | BUT, as we keep repeating, this bug is for the unstable kernel |
| 16:43.25 | JordiGH | cubuanic: That's full of lol, eh? |
| 16:43.31 | cubuanic | does this change something? |
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| 16:43.41 | azeem | cubuanic: install the testing kernel |
| 16:43.41 | JordiGH | So what should I download to do a squeeze netinstall from a USB stick? |
| 16:43.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah... it means you're in it for the fun, not for running something that works |
| 16:43.51 | cubuanic | JordiGH: ?... |
| 16:44.04 | JordiGH | cubuanic: Having a mixed system is a likely source of many lols. |
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| 16:44.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | as in "haha, segfault... again!" |
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| 16:46.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | so how do I switch the caps-lock lamp without the caps-lock state? |
| 16:47.41 | srwsr-Sr-- | capslock lamp ? |
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| 16:47.52 | srwsr-Sr-- | do you have attached some device to caps-lock ? |
| 16:47.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | led |
| 16:47.57 | srwsr-Sr-- | ah |
| 16:48.00 | jelly | cubuanic: fwiw, #576758 doesn't look like anything critical, and doesn't stop one from installing |
| 16:48.16 | lindi- | CutMeOwnThroat: as user or as root? |
| 16:48.23 | srwsr-Sr-- | CutMeOwnThroat: in real mode it is simple to do it in ASM |
| 16:48.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | don't mind |
| 16:48.30 | cubuanic | not sure why, but for me it does |
| 16:48.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 16:48.32 | lindi- | srwsr-Sr--: even with usb keyboard? |
| 16:48.33 | srwsr-Sr-- | i havent tried to do it in protected |
| 16:48.35 | JordiGH | Uh, so I want this, right? But do I have to figure out myself how to put this into a USB pendrive to make it bootable? http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/hd-media/ |
| 16:48.44 | jelly | cubuanic: it's not the same bug, then |
| 16:48.56 | srwsr-Sr-- | lindi-: ;) havent tried, dont have usb keyboard |
| 16:49.00 | jelly | cubuanic: pastebin _your_ installation output. |
| 16:49.01 | azeem | JordiGH: eh, to install testing, you install stable and upgrade |
| 16:49.14 | cubuanic | CutMeOwnThroat: http://paste.debian.net/68597/ |
| 16:49.38 | lindi- | CutMeOwnThroat: iki.fi/lindi/usb/usbshoop-keyboard-ledblink.c is a prototype that blinks USB keyboard leds :) |
| 16:49.39 | Titan8990 | azeem: I thought that they were also wanting to do testing on the new d-i (maybe I recall wrong) |
| 16:49.59 | azeem | Titan8990: only for people who know already what to do |
| 16:50.07 | azeem | !ifytays |
| 16:50.15 | azeem | whatever |
| 16:50.17 | JordiGH | azeem: I hate doing that. It's often full of problems, aptitude gets confused about upgrading everything, it's a mess. I'd rather install testing. |
| 16:50.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah, I meant just "apt-cache policy" not for the package |
| 16:50.39 | cubuanic | jelly: http://paste.debian.net/68598/ |
| 16:50.40 | azeem | JordiGH: AFAIK there's a bootoption for the stable installer to do this |
| 16:50.47 | Titan8990 | JordiGH: its actually very clean if you are not dealing with a xorg or DE upgrade |
| 16:50.57 | JordiGH | Hm. |
| 16:51.01 | JordiGH | Ok, fine. |
| 16:51.06 | azeem | cubuanic: eh, it's the udev error |
| 16:51.13 | Titan8990 | well, in expert mode of d-i, you can point it at a squeeze repo |
| 16:51.26 | JordiGH | Soo.... what do I want? http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-amd64/current/images/ |
| 16:51.30 | cubuanic | CutMeOwnThroat: there is lot of output, do you want to see all of them? |
| 16:51.32 | JordiGH | hd-media? |
| 16:51.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | and it's a direct consequence of mixing... |
| 16:51.47 | JordiGH | Do I gunzip boot.img.gz and dd it to the my pendrive? |
| 16:51.57 | jelly | cubuanic: now that, that's a known bug in squeeze installation procedure. /msg dpkg squeeze udev |
| 16:52.02 | azeem | JordiGH: this is explained in the install manual |
| 16:52.17 | cubuanic | jelly: thx, reading... |
| 16:52.19 | Titan8990 | JordiGH: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 16:52.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah, never mind.... it'll only make my eyes bleed :-P |
| 16:52.31 | jelly | cubuanic: basically: install the new kernel using dpkg, reboot into it, then let aptitude or apt install newer udev |
| 16:52.41 | JordiGH | http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 16:52.51 | JordiGH | Titan8990: Wrong link, I found the one I want. |
| 16:55.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | lindi-, 404 not found |
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| 16:55.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | but actually, there's ledcontrol in debian |
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| 16:58.34 | cubuanic | thanks all you guys for help, new kernet is installed, will try to reboot and continue with udev update.... :) |
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| 17:05.25 | SuperMiguel | i want to run a script with root lvl, so i put "/home/miguel/scriptname &" in my /etc/rc.local, rebooted and nothing happened.. anything i need to do? |
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| 17:07.26 | fruitwerks | anyone ever install tomcat? |
| 17:07.31 | jelly | !anyone |
| 17:07.31 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 17:08.26 | fruitwerks | I have installed tomcat5, it is running, but the pages are not loading - browser just sits there |
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| 17:11.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly, wrong one... |
| 17:11.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's |
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| 17:11.10 | rajeshsr | hi |
| 17:11.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | !anyone use tomcat |
| 17:11.11 | dpkg | No, no one uses tomcat, not even the people who use it. |
| 17:11.19 | fruitwerks | haha |
| 17:11.23 | fruitwerks | :( |
| 17:11.29 | rajeshsr | i want to type accented characters in my QWERT keyboard |
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| 17:12.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | !compose |
| 17:12.00 | dpkg | To enter chars like ïÇô¿ or éâßñ in X, "xmodmap -e 'keycode 117 = Multi_key'". After that, you can use your rightmost windows key as a Compose key, e.g. pressing windows-key, ~, n in sequence will produce ñ or ñAsk me about <compose sequences> for a how to find out what key combinations you can use. Similar functionality for the console can be achieved using the loadkeys command, or http://andrew.triumf.ca/iso8859-1-compose.html |
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| 17:12.03 | rajeshsr | i guess some settings change with gnome could make it. I forgot how. Can anyone help me? |
| 17:13.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | rajeshsr, ^^^ |
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| 17:14.06 | rajeshsr | CutMeOwnThroat, thanks |
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| 17:15.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | rajeshsr, or you can switch between different layouts with something like Option "XkbLayout" "us(altgr-intl),gr" and Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin,grp:lwin_toggle,grp_led:scroll" in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (this switches between us layout and greek, defines the right windows-key as compose key and the left windows key to toggle keymaps) |
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| 17:16.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | section input device |
| 17:16.41 | rajeshsr | CutMeOwnThroat, any article that can explain these things in detail? |
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| 17:17.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's a link for the compose key in the factoid |
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| 17:18.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | else... google for XkbLayout |
| 17:19.10 | Micki | hi |
| 17:19.11 | rajeshsr | CutMeOwnThroat, thanks |
| 17:19.15 | yareckon | laters all |
| 17:19.16 | rajeshsr | this article helped me: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey |
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| 17:20.19 | mvk | im using transmission on debian, but the bittorrent client is very slow or something, torrents dont start for like 5min |
| 17:20.25 | mvk | and the port forward is ok |
| 17:20.29 | mvk | what should i do? |
| 17:20.46 | defrysk | try deluge |
| 17:20.59 | mvk | ok thanks |
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| 17:21.40 | Oleg | mvk, I some funky errors when I use rtorrent, so weird that you're having issues too |
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| 17:22.11 | Oleg | and hey defrysk, deluge looks sexy, thanks for the tip |
| 17:22.18 | Oleg | hopefully is solves some issues for me |
| 17:22.20 | defrysk | yw ;) |
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| 17:22.42 | defrysk | if desperate try the resource hog vuze |
| 17:23.11 | mvk | Oleg, rtorrent is console client huh.. yeah i like that one too |
| 17:23.12 | Oleg | I use my server as a media server, no way am I going to install vuze |
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| 17:23.20 | mvk | indeed defrysk thanks!! |
| 17:23.48 | defrysk | if smart, download from a newsgroupserver with ssl |
| 17:24.00 | defrysk | <--smart |
| 17:24.22 | mvk | defrysk, mwa, no need to ssl for me, im dutch ;D |
| 17:24.31 | Oleg | defrysk, too much work |
| 17:24.35 | Oleg | I want my stuff NOW |
| 17:24.38 | mvk | Oleg, :D |
| 17:24.39 | defrysk | mvk, ik ook maar woon ik canada |
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| 17:24.51 | mvk | Oleg, lets leech the shit out of it then :X |
| 17:24.51 | Oleg | and with a 25 meg pipe, it works well |
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| 17:25.07 | mvk | defrysk, dus je heet eigenlijk 'de Frysk'? |
| 17:25.14 | defrysk | de vries |
| 17:25.19 | defrysk | from leeuwarden |
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| 17:25.30 | defrysk | but live in on canada |
| 17:25.41 | theplic | hi i have an intel x3100. it aint being recognised |
| 17:25.50 | theplic | how do i go about solving the issue? |
| 17:26.02 | wols | not recognized in what way? |
| 17:26.18 | theplic | well im on vesa mode with max 800x600 resolution |
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| 17:26.44 | wols | dpkg -l xorg what version? |
| 17:26.44 | dpkg | ii xorg what version 3.2-1.3 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 17:26.51 | wols | dpkg: shutup |
| 17:26.51 | dpkg | yes master, I'll STFU |
| 17:27.06 | defrysk | heh |
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| 17:27.20 | theplic | lol |
| 17:27.38 | shylent | what was that? :O |
| 17:27.48 | theplic | 1:7.5+3 |
| 17:27.54 | mvk | a bot in the channel here to help you... noramlly |
| 17:27.59 | shylent | I was not aware of any ultra s3kr1t debian packages :P |
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| 17:29.04 | wols | theplic: have fun checking your logs |
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| 17:29.48 | theplic | :| |
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| 17:32.23 | theplic | hi rawknack |
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| 17:34.29 | jhutchins_lt | shylent: That's becasuse they're ultra s3kr1t. |
| 17:35.04 | shylent | jhutchins_lt: makes sense :) |
| 17:36.04 | JordiGH | Hm, I see that to do the netinst, I'm going to need to use a USB wireless thingie. On Ubuntu, Linux loaded the zd1211 module. It looks like it's free. This should just work with a recent d-i, right? |
| 17:36.08 | mvk | uhhhh wtf |
| 17:36.22 | cahoot | JordiGH: need firmware |
| 17:36.26 | mvk | when i open synaptics, and mark 'transmission' to be removed, it says 'to be remove > gnome' |
| 17:36.35 | azeem | mvk: correct |
| 17:36.38 | mvk | so if i remove transmission, gnome is gone? :| |
| 17:36.40 | azeem | gnome is a meta package |
| 17:36.56 | mvk | meta for what exact package? |
| 17:36.56 | wildc4rd | evenin' all |
| 17:37.00 | Titan8990 | I usually work around that kind of thing with "aptitude keep-all" |
| 17:37.05 | azeem | mvk: for all the gnome packages |
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| 17:38.42 | mvk | azeem, thats crap, so i cant remove transmission without my gnome? :/ |
| 17:38.57 | azeem | you can't remove transmission without removing the gnome meta-package |
| 17:39.06 | azeem | which is different to removing gnome |
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| 17:39.34 | azeem | however, when you upgrade to the next major version, you won't get additional packages which have been added to gnome since |
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| 17:43.36 | xenor | ePirat? :O |
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| 17:52.25 | mvk | ePirat? > no you ePenis.. just getting my share ;P |
| 17:52.28 | mvk | of the cake |
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| 17:53.30 | defrysk | mkv gnome is a metapackage for the default set of packages representing gnome in debian |
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| 17:53.57 | defrysk | so if you remove transmission you no longer represent debian |
| 17:54.14 | defrysk | probable represent mint or something then ;p |
| 17:54.57 | gnat_x | i have a usb drive that i am using as part of a raid array on my laptop. everything has been working okay, until udev started incrementing the dev address of the second drive when i connect/disconnect it. eg: it just changed from sdb to sdc. i would like to stop that from happening, but am not sure where to start looking. |
| 17:55.13 | jhutchins_lt | judd versions fwbuilder |
| 17:55.14 | judd | fwbuilder -- etch: 2.0.9-1.2; lenny: 2.1.19-6; sid: 3.0.7-1; squeeze: 3.0.7-1 |
| 17:55.53 | Titan8990 | gnat_x: I can't say how to configure it, but I would imagine /etc/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules |
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| 17:56.28 | lontra | what do i need to enable 'run command' dialog box via alt+f2 in openbox |
| 17:56.57 | Titan8990 | lontra: might have better luck on an openbox specific chan |
| 17:57.03 | lontra | ok |
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| 17:58.03 | xenor | ePirat: ask? ^^ |
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| 17:58.20 | jhambo | with sshfs is there a way to make it so the mountpoint directory doesn't exist unless the sftp is actually mounted? |
| 17:58.33 | ePirat | sorry, i'm bussy... |
| 17:58.44 | lindi- | jhambo: create the file before mounting and remove it on umount? |
| 17:58.50 | lindi- | jhambo: s/file/directory/ |
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| 18:09.15 | rubin110 | Anyone use screen to interact with a serial connection? |
| 18:09.30 | petemc_ | yes |
| 18:09.35 | qwd | !ask |
| 18:09.35 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 18:11.41 | rubin110 | How do I get screen to refresh the tty for the serial connection? |
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| 18:12.10 | rubin110 | Whenever I do a power cycle on the device I'm serialed into, screen doesn't get anymore input until I restart the session. |
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| 18:13.10 | ePirat | Hello, I have some trouble with W-LAN and debian. I have set up all things rigth, i think and i have set up an static ip, but i cant connect to the internet |
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| 18:14.40 | Titan8990 | ePirat: you don't have DHCP? |
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| 18:15.18 | HardDisk_WP | hey |
| 18:15.21 | ePirat | yes i have but it don't work... |
| 18:15.22 | HardDisk_WP | i gots some ssh problem |
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| 18:15.31 | HardDisk_WP | i log on, do work, then pause for 60mins |
| 18:15.37 | HardDisk_WP | then connection is interrupted |
| 18:15.38 | HardDisk_WP | always |
| 18:15.41 | Titan8990 | ePirat: what card and what version of debian? |
| 18:15.44 | wols | ePirat: are you associated with the AP? |
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| 18:15.53 | ePirat | AP? |
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| 18:16.08 | Titan8990 | ePirat: access point... the thing your wireless device connects to |
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| 18:16.11 | wols | the thing your wlan card connects to. the other end |
| 18:16.34 | ePirat | it is a apple airport express |
| 18:16.41 | wols | ePirat: just pastebin the output of iwconfig |
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| 18:17.09 | ePirat | this will take some time |
| 18:17.27 | gnat_x | Titan8990: i don't have that file. are you saying that i will need to read up on creating it? |
| 18:18.20 | Titan8990 | gnat_x: I have 3 debian machines in front of me and they all have that file |
| 18:18.25 | ePirat | oh.. theres encryption key off... what menas thisß |
| 18:18.27 | ePirat | ? |
| 18:18.29 | wols | HardDisk_WP: http://ocaoimh.ie/how-to-fix-ssh-timeout-problems/ |
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| 18:19.00 | HardDisk_WP | thanks! |
| 18:20.26 | ePirat | Hello? |
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| 18:21.14 | Titan8990 | ePirat: what version of debian are you running? |
| 18:21.33 | ePirat | how i can find this out? I'm usig the newest... |
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| 18:21.53 | Titan8990 | !version |
| 18:21.53 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a, or cat /proc/version. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distributions. |
| 18:22.09 | Titan8990 | ePirat: start with uname -r, what does it say? |
| 18:22.22 | defrysk | cat /etc/issue |
| 18:22.30 | defrysk | should tell you |
| 18:22.54 | Titan8990 | defrysk: yes, but not very helpful for squeeze or sid users (which will say squeeze/sid in /etc/issue) |
| 18:22.56 | ePirat | 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 18:23.15 | defrysk | Titan8990, sid and squeeze have the same kernel |
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| 18:23.30 | defrysk | so uname -r is also useless |
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| 18:23.35 | Titan8990 | defrysk: no, they don't. same version, different revision |
| 18:23.52 | defrysk | ok |
| 18:23.54 | Titan8990 | defrysk: well, yeah, uname -r wouldn't be any good there |
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| 18:24.19 | Titan8990 | ePirat: ecryption key usually refers to WEP. |
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| 18:24.52 | ePirat | But i set up a WPA connection... |
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| 18:30.01 | ePirat | here i have the iwconf output: |
| 18:30.11 | azeem | pastebin it |
| 18:30.34 | gnat_x | Titan8990: well then that might be the issue, because i don't have that file. |
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| 18:30.39 | ePirat | http://pastebin.com/UKM00CKE |
| 18:31.23 | wols | " Access Point: Not-Associated " |
| 18:31.34 | wols | that's the important part. no connection to your AP |
| 18:31.50 | ePirat | sorry i'm new to debian... how can i set up this? |
| 18:32.22 | ePirat | i did it in the network utility (GUI)... But it seems that debian ignored this... |
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| 18:33.16 | ePirat | BTW: my wlan has wpa encryption |
| 18:34.01 | azeem | which network utility? |
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| 18:34.33 | ePirat | The os language is german... |
| 18:34.41 | ePirat | I must change it.. |
| 18:34.42 | wols | ePirat: just tell. I'm german |
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| 18:34.48 | ePirat | ok |
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| 18:35.01 | wols | debian package names are all english btw |
| 18:35.11 | ePirat | System > Systemverwaltung > Netzwerk |
| 18:35.20 | azeem | try network-manager instead |
| 18:35.24 | azeem | the icon in your systray |
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| 18:35.30 | xenor_ | bb |
| 18:35.45 | ePirat | i havent this icon... |
| 18:36.00 | wols | azeem: isn't that network manager via "system" gnome menu? |
| 18:36.03 | azeem | no |
| 18:36.12 | wols | ,version network-manager |
| 18:36.14 | judd | (version takes no arguments) -- Returns the version of the current bot. |
| 18:36.17 | wols | ,versions network-manager |
| 18:36.19 | judd | network-manager -- etch: 0.6.4-6; etch-security: 0.6.4-6+etch1; lenny: 0.6.6-3; lenny-backports: 0.7.2-2~bpo50+1; sid: 0.8-1; squeeze: 0.8-1 |
| 18:36.27 | wols | ePirat: install it and use it |
| 18:36.30 | azeem | ePirat: which version of Debian is it? |
| 18:36.36 | azeem | did you install the GNOME desktop task? |
| 18:36.41 | ePirat | Yes |
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| 18:38.46 | ePirat | wols: Just wrote the version: ePirat: 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 18:39.05 | azeem | ePirat: answer to which question? |
| 18:39.27 | ePirat | sorry im very confused now... |
| 18:39.50 | ePirat | My version is: 2.6.26-2-686 |
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| 18:40.04 | ePirat | And i Have the gnome GUI |
| 18:40.16 | azeem | and what is the version of your "network-manager" package? |
| 18:40.17 | moes | Is KDE 4 available from the synaptic repositories in Lenny |
| 18:40.24 | azeem | moes: no |
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| 18:40.43 | ePirat | azeem: How can i find this out? |
| 18:41.07 | moes | azeem..Thanks |
| 18:41.34 | azeem | ePirat: dpkg -l network-manager |
| 18:41.38 | ePirat | someone speaks german? |
| 18:41.48 | azeem | !de |
| 18:41.48 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 18:42.40 | ePirat | Ok... is was there already (in debian.de) |
| 18:42.42 | Smiley | looks in again |
| 18:43.05 | Smiley | babilen? |
| 18:43.10 | Smiley | not here, doh :( |
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| 18:44.45 | ePirat | azeem: It seems to network-manager is not installed... |
| 18:45.34 | ePirat | http://pastebin.com/HaZV7zEk |
| 18:45.56 | azeem | ePirat: how did you install Gnome? |
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| 18:46.46 | ePirat | what? I downloaded debian an installed it... I'm not sure what is gnome and whats KDE... |
| 18:47.13 | azeem | does it have a top and a bottom panel, or just a bottom panel? |
| 18:47.24 | d1b | ePirat: this is possible |
| 18:47.30 | ePirat | Top nadn bottom... |
| 18:47.35 | ePirat | *and |
| 18:47.39 | d1b | ePirat: mmm? |
| 18:47.50 | azeem | d1b: ? |
| 18:47.57 | ePirat | azeem: Top and bottom |
| 18:47.58 | azeem | ePirat: I wonder how you're missing n-m then |
| 18:48.11 | d1b | debian has a few cd options you can get xfce, gnome, lxe and kde |
| 18:48.59 | ePirat | azeem: When i have top and bottom, what i have? (KDE or GNOME?) |
| 18:49.02 | azeem | gnome |
| 18:49.17 | ePirat | Ok... |
| 18:49.25 | azeem | did you install from cd? |
| 18:49.30 | ePirat | yes |
| 18:49.32 | azeem | hrm |
| 18:49.43 | azeem | anyway, try install the "network-manager-gnome" package |
| 18:50.19 | ePirat | what was the install command? apt-get? |
| 18:50.55 | d1b | !aptitude |
| 18:50.55 | dpkg | aptitude is, like, a terminal-based package manager that can be used in a command-line mode (aptitude install foo ; aptitude remove goo) as well as a text user interface mode (just run "aptitude"). Ask me about <why aptitude> <why not aptitude> <aptitude-fu> or see http://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude |
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| 18:52.37 | ePirat | no packets found with this name... |
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| 18:53.36 | azeem | ePirat: well, then it's not on your cd |
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| 18:53.55 | ePirat | hm... what can i do now? |
| 18:54.22 | d1b | ePirat: aptitude install gnome |
| 18:54.33 | d1b | !sources |
| 18:54.33 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 18:54.33 | azeem | d1b: eh, he's trying to setup wireless |
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| 18:54.46 | d1b | azeem: oh ... i thought he said ... |
| 18:54.49 | d1b | right |
| 18:54.55 | d1b | !interfaces |
| 18:54.55 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for documentation, "zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz" for example configurations. Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client>, <resolv.conf>, <static route>. |
| 18:54.55 | defrysk | azeem, network manager is part of gnome |
| 18:55.02 | d1b | defrysk: not entirelly |
| 18:55.07 | defrysk | so not a bad idea |
| 18:55.08 | d1b | ePirat: see that interfaces file |
| 18:55.18 | d1b | it should do things for you. |
| 18:55.31 | Smiley | I just realised something - maybe the bash isn't starting within fluxbox because I dont have a terminal emulator installed? |
| 18:55.34 | azeem | defrysk: but on CD#2 |
| 18:55.35 | defrysk | ahwell nm |
| 18:55.53 | defrysk | azeem, i prefer net install |
| 18:56.02 | azeem | ePirat: you need WPA wireless, right? |
| 18:56.05 | Smiley | doesn't know what term emulator to install :( |
| 18:56.05 | Titan8990 | Smiley: what do you mean "bash isn't starting within fluxbox"? |
| 18:56.07 | ePirat | yes |
| 18:56.09 | azeem | or can you get online via cable? |
| 18:56.17 | azeem | defrysk: AFAIK lenny doesn't support WPA for d-i |
| 18:56.25 | Titan8990 | Smiley: xterm is the traditional. gnome-terminal and the likes have more features |
| 18:56.27 | d1b | azeem: erh it might |
| 18:56.32 | azeem | well, anway |
| 18:56.33 | d1b | don't remember tho |
| 18:56.35 | ePirat | azeem: yes... but then i must go every time to my neighbor, to go inline |
| 18:56.49 | azeem | ePirat: well, only to get it setup, of course |
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| 18:56.52 | d1b | ePirat: can you disable the wpa for a bit ? |
| 18:57.02 | d1b | perhaps... |
| 18:57.09 | ePirat | noway |
| 18:57.21 | d1b | ok have fun! |
| 18:57.23 | Smiley | Titan8990: ah xterm will work with flux then? awesome |
| 18:58.00 | Titan8990 | Smiley: terminal emulators are not specific to a WM, even if they are designed for one in particular |
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| 18:58.07 | ePirat | d1b: Its not my fault, its the network from my neighbor, wich allows me to use it... I cant go to him and say "disable WPA please..." |
| 18:58.24 | d1b | ok |
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| 18:58.36 | ePirat | what ist wpa-ssid ? is this the network name? |
| 18:58.38 | d1b | ePirat: well you need certain thing installed before you can get online. |
| 18:58.57 | ePirat | d1b: Whis things? |
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| 18:59.06 | d1b | ePirat: how are you online atm? |
| 18:59.21 | ePirat | with my mac over wlan |
| 18:59.36 | d1b | can't you just share the net from the mac to the debian box ? |
| 18:59.48 | Ayromos | excuse me I can't have visualization with xmms2, I have a black window do you know if i need to recompile xmms, or configure libvisual and visualproject or if it come frome xmms2 config? |
| 19:00.01 | SerajewelKS | ePirat: you need wpa-ssid and wpa-psk usually, and of course wpasupplicant |
| 19:00.07 | d1b | Ayromos: what? |
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| 19:00.16 | ePirat | no... ;-) |
| 19:00.19 | SerajewelKS | ePirat: disclaimer: i've never actually been able to get it to work without using networkmanager |
| 19:00.38 | d1b | ePirat: dude your on an ipv6 network you work it out |
| 19:00.40 | Ayromos | i don't have visualisation with xmms2-libvisual d1b |
| 19:00.53 | Ayromos | i have a black window |
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| 19:01.01 | SerajewelKS | Ayromos: libvisual is just an abstraction library. you need libvisual-compatible visualizations installed. |
| 19:01.10 | ePirat | d1b: Tomorrow i can go online with lan then i can install some packages... |
| 19:01.12 | Ayromos | ok thanks |
| 19:01.34 | d1b | ePirat: well |
| 19:01.38 | d1b | !interfaces |
| 19:01.38 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for documentation, "zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz" for example configurations. Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. See also <dhcp client>, <resolv.conf>, <static route>. |
| 19:01.44 | d1b | ePirat: that applies to you |
| 19:01.49 | Smiley | oh wow |
| 19:02.00 | Smiley | i realy really need to load my xterm conf from my other computer lol |
| 19:02.08 | Smiley | where are those settings |
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| 19:02.16 | ePirat | d1b: I have the file open.... I just asked if wpa-ssid is the network name... |
| 19:02.24 | d1b | ePirat: yes... |
| 19:02.30 | d1b | rtfm |
| 19:02.33 | ePirat | ok... |
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| 19:03.06 | Titan8990 | Smiley: other terminal emulators are much easier to configure |
| 19:03.18 | Smiley | Titan8990: what would you suggest, I need something truely small. |
| 19:03.28 | d1b | gnome-terminal :P |
| 19:03.50 | Smiley | :P |
| 19:03.52 | Titan8990 | Smiley: gnome-terminal... terminal emulators are not very bulky... not even the bulky ones |
| 19:04.02 | Smiley | I'm currently using xfce-terminal on my gentoo system |
| 19:04.10 | Smiley | so if i use that, can i just grab some config off my existing system? |
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| 19:04.14 | wols | rxvt? that's small |
| 19:04.16 | Smiley | i just dont want something with loads of deps? |
| 19:04.24 | Smiley | as its an eeepc |
| 19:04.33 | d1b | Smiley: so turn depds off |
| 19:04.39 | Titan8990 | Smiley: yes, you can use whatever one you want |
| 19:04.42 | d1b | erh* recommends |
| 19:04.45 | wols | DimmuR: that's kinda impossible |
| 19:04.46 | d1b | !recommends |
| 19:05.01 | Smiley | im wondering if that would work even :< |
| 19:05.10 | Smiley | deps != recommends ? :o |
| 19:05.11 | d1b | oh well. Smiley you should turn recommends off |
| 19:05.14 | wols | ,depends rxvt |
| 19:05.16 | judd | rxvt -- depends: libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libx11-6, libxpm4. |
| 19:05.39 | Smiley | d1b: ok heh |
| 19:05.47 | Smiley | wonders how to turn them off permantly. |
| 19:05.54 | Titan8990 | , depends xterm |
| 19:05.55 | judd | xterm -- depends: xbitmaps, libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libfontconfig1 (>= 2.4.0), libice6 (>= 1:1.0.0), libncurses5 (>= 5.6+20071006-3), libsm6, libx11-6, libxaw7, libxext6, libxft2 (>> 2.1.1), libxmu6, libxt6. |
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| 19:06.02 | wols | !tell Smiley about apt-recommends |
| 19:06.22 | Smiley | ah found it. |
| 19:06.27 | Smiley | in aptitude... |
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| 19:07.24 | devious | Smiley: If you need unicode support look at rxvt-unicode-lite as well. |
| 19:07.33 | Ayromos | but xmms2-libvisual isn't visualisation abstraction? |
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| 19:08.04 | Smiley | im getting xfce4 |
| 19:08.11 | Smiley | not sure wtf happened to my f then. that was random. |
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| 19:08.49 | zmitya | hi gents |
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| 19:09.18 | zmitya | I need to install a really small x window system to my server and put a light window manager to run a firefox |
| 19:09.28 | zmitya | I think icewm is good for me |
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| 19:09.55 | Titan8990 | zmitya: you can use w3m without a WM.. either plain TUI or emacs front-end |
| 19:09.58 | zmitya | which packages do I need to install to run a minimal X which could be used with VNC ? |
| 19:10.02 | Ayromos | xfce more simple |
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| 19:10.17 | Ayromos | and e17 but dificult to install |
| 19:10.26 | wols | xfce is neitrher simple nor small |
| 19:10.28 | Titan8990 | zmitya: what is the need for iceweasel on the server? |
| 19:10.29 | d1b | Ayromos: awesome ! |
| 19:10.34 | d1b | awesome is awesome |
| 19:10.48 | Ayromos | ???* |
| 19:10.50 | wols | why does one need a windowmanager at all? |
| 19:10.50 | zmitya | Titan8990: I would like to see my video archiver system |
| 19:10.52 | Smiley | yey |
| 19:10.56 | Ayromos | hey je suis francais... |
| 19:10.58 | Smiley | looking better every second |
| 19:11.14 | Smiley | oh swet |
| 19:11.15 | Titan8990 | zmitya: video tends to not work well if at all over VNC |
| 19:11.17 | wols | !fr |
| 19:11.17 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net. |
| 19:11.19 | ePirat | i m to dump to set up my wlan... i dont uderstand nothing of this manual... I will take another Operating system... |
| 19:11.19 | Smiley | its even the right size terminal :D |
| 19:11.22 | zmitya | there is little upstream b/w |
| 19:11.25 | Titan8990 | zmitya: that can't be accessed remotely? |
| 19:11.33 | zmitya | Titan8990: I know, I'll set up big compression |
| 19:11.38 | Ayromos | i know ... |
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| 19:12.30 | zmitya | so, what packages do I need to start an X remotely ? |
| 19:12.37 | zmitya | lets say with xfce |
| 19:12.45 | zmitya | is cfce lighter than icewm ? |
| 19:12.48 | zmitya | *xfce |
| 19:12.59 | Titan8990 | no, icewm is a WM and xfce4 is a full DE |
| 19:13.05 | zmitya | DE ? |
| 19:13.12 | Titan8990 | desktop environment |
| 19:13.16 | zmitya | oh |
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| 19:13.42 | Smiley | ponders |
| 19:13.43 | zmitya | ivewm is enough for me I think, I just need to get VNC working |
| 19:13.46 | zmitya | and a browser |
| 19:13.58 | Smiley | ok now heh i wanna make flux save this and auto start it when i log on :D |
| 19:14.11 | Smiley | its just a simple command "ssh tim@192.... -c irssi" i think. |
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| 19:14.29 | Titan8990 | zmitya: not sure I understand the issue however. install icewm, install a vnc server, install iceweasel |
| 19:14.32 | Smiley | oh not -c ;D |
| 19:14.46 | iceroot | Smiley: use screen |
| 19:14.49 | zmitya | Titan8990: I did, but there is no X session :) |
| 19:15.04 | zmitya | it seems I missed at least 1 package |
| 19:15.19 | Smiley | iceroot: already am (irssi is an alias ;)) |
| 19:15.48 | iceroot | Smiley: and how do you start irssi if the screen is closed? |
| 19:15.51 | Smiley | however its the auto opening of a term and running the command |
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| 19:16.08 | Smiley | iceroot: it checks if there is a screen session called irssi, if therei s it connects, else it starts a new one :) |
| 19:16.14 | Smiley | want it? :D |
| 19:16.20 | ePirat | ciao and thanks for trying to help |
| 19:16.27 | Smiley | # Create screen session called Irssi running irssi |
| 19:16.28 | Smiley | alias irssi="screen -wipe ; screen -A -U -x -R -S irssi irssi" |
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| 19:17.04 | iceroot | Smiley: ah ok, n1 but i will stay with my screen-command instead of doing something to irssi |
| 19:17.07 | Smiley | :) |
| 19:17.42 | Smiley | you could use teh command and chnge the name of the alias if you want. anyways... |
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| 19:17.47 | Smiley | how to make flux automatically start this for me? |
| 19:18.14 | iceroot | Smiley: no need |
| 19:19.05 | Smiley | ?? |
| 19:19.05 | Smiley | why no need? |
| 19:19.21 | iceroot | Smiley: because i dont need it :) |
| 19:19.35 | Smiley | Hehe Oh i thoguht you meant me |
| 19:19.37 | Smiley | ahrum. |
| 19:20.01 | Smiley | When x is starting it says "Xsession: warning: xrdb command not found; X resources not merged. ---- WHAT? :</ |
| 19:20.48 | jelly-home | ,file bin/xrdb |
| 19:20.50 | judd | bin/xrdb in lenny/i386: x11-xserver-utils: usr/bin/xrdb |
| 19:20.57 | jelly-home | Smiley: is that package installed? |
| 19:21.17 | Titan8990 | would have thought it would be found in the package "xrdp" |
| 19:21.41 | jelly-home | bpbpbpbpb |
| 19:21.41 | Smiley | guessing not. |
| 19:21.51 | jelly-home | Smiley: how did you install X? |
| 19:21.57 | jelly-home | !install x |
| 19:21.57 | dpkg | To install X in Debian Etch or later: "aptitude update && aptitude install xorg". You may also want to install a desktop environment - ask me about <install gnome>, <install kde>, <install xfce>, <install lxde> - or a window manager, ask me about <window manager>. To reconfigure your X server, ask me about <drxx>. |
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| 19:22.12 | Smiley | with a command within the eeePC installing guide. |
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| 19:22.15 | Smiley | which ignored recommends |
| 19:22.17 | Smiley | :< |
| 19:22.40 | jelly-home | xorg metapackage Depends: x11-xserver-utils |
| 19:23.15 | jelly-home | you'd also get a shitload of unnecessary drivers, but hey |
| 19:23.35 | Smiley | thats what I dont want |
| 19:23.37 | Smiley | 2gig of space :( |
| 19:23.38 | Titan8990 | jelly-home: you would get that from xserver-xorg anyways |
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| 19:24.31 | jelly-home | Smiley: remove just the superfluous xserver-xorg-video-* and input-* later |
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| 19:26.23 | Smiley | goes a little bit wacky |
| 19:26.40 | EagleWatch | hi all .. i have a problem after connectiing to my server via ssh, if I hit a key, it loges my out!!!!! |
| 19:26.54 | Titan8990 | EagleWatch: what is your default shell? |
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| 19:27.33 | EagleWatch | bash |
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| 19:28.36 | Smiley | yey no more error |
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| 19:29.54 | Smiley | TERM environment not set |
| 19:29.54 | Smiley | Can't initialize screen handling, quitting. |
| 19:30.03 | Smiley | :is what i get when trying to ssh ZZZ@ |
| 19:30.16 | Smiley | is what I get when trying to ssh ZZZ@YYY irssi |
| 19:30.35 | jelly-home | Smiley: add a -t option to ssh, and read what it does |
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| 19:31.35 | Smiley | drat |
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| 19:31.43 | Smiley | it ignored my alias (im not supprised though) |
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| 19:32.11 | Smiley | as you can see |
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| 19:32.47 | Smiley | Should it pickup my alias in ./.bashrc ? |
| 19:32.57 | Smiley | ~/.bashrc even :( |
| 19:33.07 | jelly-home | Smiley: have you started bash or irssi? |
| 19:33.16 | Smiley | erm |
| 19:33.17 | Smiley | irssi. |
| 19:33.20 | Smiley | ooooooooo |
| 19:33.28 | jelly-home | so, why would anything read .bashrc! |
| 19:33.32 | Smiley | I should start a /bin/bash -c irssi! |
| 19:33.48 | Smiley | does man bash |
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| 19:34.21 | Smiley | oh god this is complicated. :< |
| 19:34.33 | jelly-home | skip to INVOCATION ;-) |
| 19:34.53 | Smiley | hehe ok thanks |
| 19:34.58 | Smiley | Do i want a login shell? |
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| 19:35.37 | Smiley | it seems yes, yes Ido. |
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| 19:36.47 | jelly-home | ssh foo make a login shell by default, since well, you're logging in to the remote machine. |
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| 19:37.45 | Smiley | urgh |
| 19:38.01 | Smiley | it still ignored mah ~/.bashrc |
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| 19:38.20 | Smiley | YEY! |
| 19:38.24 | Smiley | did it!!! :) |
| 19:38.26 | jelly-home | I guess you could just use an explicit --rcfile to read it, no need for a login shell. I'm not a bash user |
| 19:38.27 | Smiley | -ci :) |
| 19:38.39 | Smiley | needed interactive + -c irssi :) |
| 19:38.45 | jelly-home | ic |
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| 19:39.11 | Smiley | Now I need to create something.... to start up "terminal -c ssh tim@192.xxxxxxxx -ic irssi |
| 19:39.15 | Smiley | lol this is getting longer and longer ;) |
| 19:39.41 | Smiley | and im getting more and more excited :D |
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| 19:40.47 | Smiley | would it just be a simple sh script type thing? Am i thinking along the right lines jelly-home ? |
| 19:40.53 | Smiley | thank you for trying to help me learn also. |
| 19:41.07 | Smiley | normaly i take ages to pick anything up, but you explained that ssh thing very well ^_^ |
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| 19:45.02 | jelly-home | Smiley: I mean, you could put that alias there. But you made it work already. |
| 19:45.52 | Smiley | tim@MiniMusha:~$ xfce4-terminal -e 'ssh tim@192.168.1.155 -ci irssi' |
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| 19:46.00 | Smiley | that just closes again -_- |
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| 19:46.07 | jelly-home | forgot -t again? |
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| 19:46.29 | jelly-home | and bash, too |
| 19:46.32 | Smiley | still closing |
| 19:46.33 | Smiley | gah |
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| 19:46.36 | Smiley | two sec |
| 19:46.49 | jelly-home | five minutes, gone shopping |
| 19:47.09 | Smiley | yey |
| 19:47.11 | Smiley | :) |
| 19:47.28 | Smiley | working this on the eeepc keyboard is proving to be a bad idea LOL |
| 19:47.34 | Smiley | but that command now works... |
| 19:47.54 | Smiley | dances a happy dance |
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| 19:54.52 | factor | I cant seem to find debian package for expat0 only expat1 |
| 19:54.57 | factor | does one exist? |
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| 19:56.56 | bpgoldsb | Whats the easiest way to make sure any files a user creates are g+w? |
| 19:56.56 | polycarp | packages.debian.org |
| 19:57.25 | \amethyst | bpgoldsb: set the user's umask to 007 |
| 19:57.28 | \amethyst | bpgoldsb: or 002 |
| 19:57.40 | \amethyst | bpgoldsb: i.e. make sure bit 020 isn't set |
| 19:57.54 | \amethyst | bpgoldsb: how will the user be logging in? |
| 19:58.00 | bpgoldsb | \amethyst: Right, well, I guess it's an issue with the fact that they're righting to a samba mount then., |
| 19:58.12 | bpgoldsb | \amethyst: I've tried over both ssh and gnome. |
| 19:58.22 | Smiley | Right ok so I have this truely long horuendus messy script type thing. where hsould I place it ? |
| 19:58.36 | \amethyst | I don't know anything about permissions on a samba mount |
| 19:58.46 | Smiley | should - If i want it to start with fluxbox? (in ~/.xinit seems the right place currently? |
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| 19:58.56 | \amethyst | presumably samba has some way to set the modes for new files |
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| 19:59.27 | bpgoldsb | \amethyst: Wait a minute, I think I'm being an idiot |
| 19:59.31 | \amethyst | bpgoldsb: 'create mask' |
| 19:59.43 | bpgoldsb | umask is set by 'umask' not by the env variable 'UMASK', isn't it? |
| 19:59.59 | bpgoldsb | Haha, ya, thats my problem. Doh. |
| 20:00.11 | \amethyst | bpgoldsb: correct, either by the shell built-in umask, or by something like pam_umask before the shell is executed |
| 20:01.01 | \amethyst | but for a samba mount, it appears there are 'create mask' and 'directory mask' settings in samba that might override umask |
| 20:01.08 | factor | can I link libexpat.so.1 as 0 and get by |
| 20:01.44 | bpgoldsb | \amethyst: Yep, doing 'umask 002' instead of 'export UMASK=002' in my .bashrc fixed it. PEBKAC |
| 20:02.08 | \amethyst | :) |
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| 20:02.16 | factor | looks like I can |
| 20:02.19 | \amethyst | chmod g+s on the directory might also be useful |
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| 20:02.36 | \amethyst | if you want files to be owned by the directory's group and not the user's default group |
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| 20:02.53 | Smiley | wtf |
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| 20:02.56 | Smiley | now my x wont start :< |
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| 20:03.30 | \amethyst | bpgoldsb: also note that, by default, .bashrc isn't sourced by login shells |
| 20:03.47 | \amethyst | bpgoldsb: instead .bash_profile or .bash_login or .profile is |
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| 20:04.37 | \amethyst | bpgoldsb: I usually have my .bash_profile source .profile, but it is necessary to change both (and to make sure the user has SHELL = /bin/bash in cronjobs if they need the umask there too) |
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| 20:04.47 | pierrep | hi is there some soft to develop for mac from debian ? |
| 20:04.54 | \amethyst | bpgoldsb: err, usually have my .bash_profile source .profile then .bashrc that is |
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| 20:06.52 | Smiley | I dont get that |
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| 20:07.04 | Smiley | i created an ~/.xinit, and now xorg wont start? |
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| 20:07.55 | Smiley | oh such an idiot -_-; |
| 20:07.58 | Smiley | stabs himself in the facae. |
| 20:08.12 | Gnudoll | ?? |
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| 20:08.37 | Gnudoll | waits to hear what Smiley did |
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| 20:09.35 | babilen | pierrep: Could you clarify your question please? |
| 20:10.16 | pierrep | babilen I got some dev to do for Ipad/Iphone but I don't want to buy a mac for that |
| 20:10.39 | pierrep | some cocoa |
| 20:10.56 | Gnudoll | so you are looking for a virtual iPhone/iPad emulator? |
| 20:10.58 | babilen | I don't think that is possible |
| 20:11.31 | Smiley | Gnudoll: for some reason I removed the & from the end of the command. Not even sure why I did that. |
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| 20:11.45 | Smiley | now I just need to find out what the X geometry settings look like |
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| 20:11.58 | Smiley | im sure its just like 130x32 or something simple but I better check before it all explodes in my face? :D |
| 20:12.01 | babilen | pierrep: You could take a look at gnustep - but i don't think that you will be happy with it. I am not sure if Apple provides their SDKs for other platforms than OSX |
| 20:12.05 | ghankstef | stoopid noob question - I need to update the version of bzr on this Debian Lenny install - from 1.5 to 1.6 is hter a way todo this with apt-get - can't seem to get it to update |
| 20:12.22 | babilen | ,versions bzr |
| 20:12.23 | judd | bzr -- etch: 0.11-1.1; etch-backports: 1.5-1~bpo40+1; lenny: 1.5-1.1; lenny-backports: 2.0.3-1~bpo50+1; sid: 2.1.1-1; squeeze: 2.1.1-1 |
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| 20:12.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | !bpo |
| 20:12.50 | dpkg | backports.org is a semi-official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instructions . A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added, aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update. <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents> <bpo list> |
| 20:12.55 | babilen | ghankstef: You could install 2.0.3 from backports. do you need 1.6 or is anything >= 1.5 ok? |
| 20:13.06 | ghankstef | babilen: need 1.6 |
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| 20:13.15 | pierrep | babilen, and if i have and ssh acces to a mac would it be okay ? (working on it, with ssh -X maybe) |
| 20:13.24 | Smiley | ES! |
| 20:13.26 | Smiley | YES! even :D |
| 20:13.38 | ghankstef | babilen: 'Bazaar Branch Format 7 (needs bzr 1.6) |
| 20:13.46 | Smiley | ponders if anything else needs changing |
| 20:13.47 | Smiley | oh yes |
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| 20:13.49 | Smiley | my bashrc |
| 20:14.03 | babilen | ghankstef: I guess that you have to install it manually then. /msg dpkg usrlocal and /msg dpkg stow to learn about good ways to do that |
| 20:14.17 | babilen | Smiley: Could you be less verbose please? :) |
| 20:15.12 | babilen | pierrep: I don't think that you can run XCode on X11 (and therefore tunnel it through ssh) |
| 20:15.30 | d1b | babilen: he could do vnc -> x11 ... |
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| 20:15.40 | d1b | or better yet vnc -> ssh |
| 20:15.43 | babilen | pierrep: There might be a way to get a remote desktop though with something like VNC |
| 20:15.52 | babilen | d1b: yeah |
| 20:16.00 | pierrep | okay I take note of that |
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| 20:16.09 | pierrep | thank you both |
| 20:16.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | pierrep, it's not really a debian-question... it's e.g. discussed here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/276907/starting-iphone-app-development-in-linux or here http://www.pjtrix.com/blawg/2009/07/21/iphone-development-on-windows-linux-with-open-source-tools/ |
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| 20:16.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | google is probably the better guy to ask than here |
| 20:16.49 | d1b | CutMeOwnThroat: yeah you really need a mac :P |
| 20:17.06 | babilen | pierrep: You might want to ask in an OSX channel for good VNC servers on OSX |
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| 20:17.23 | babilen | pierrep: Try #apple |
| 20:18.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, osx is a bsd clone, so it can have all the gnu stuff and/or the bsd stuff |
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| 20:20.01 | babilen | CutMeOwnThroat: There is still no way to get Apples SDKs working on Linux, *BSD, Windows AFAIK |
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| 20:20.25 | steelbox | hi, I have a problem with VLC |
| 20:20.37 | Gnudoll | I think he was saying that you can haveall the good tools on an apple |
| 20:20.40 | steelbox | I can't play avi files; how to correct that plz? |
| 20:20.59 | babilen | Gnudoll: hence the remote desktop/vnc suggestion |
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| 20:21.10 | cahoot | steelbox: using what? |
| 20:21.25 | SerajewelKS | cahoot: presumably VLC, per his previous line |
| 20:21.25 | cahoot | steelbox: getting any error msg? |
| 20:21.41 | steelbox | cahoot: no errors or warnings |
| 20:21.43 | cahoot | ser: missed that |
| 20:21.51 | SerajewelKS | steelbox: VLC's error output will be useful. also note that not all AVI files use the same codecs... |
| 20:22.14 | babilen | steelbox: *any* avi or just specific ones? could you run vlc from the command line and paste the output to http://paste.debian.net |
| 20:22.16 | steelbox | SerajewelKS: okay I can install codecs if necessary |
| 20:22.26 | babilen | !tell steelbox about dmm |
| 20:22.47 | babilen | steelbox: You *might* need the VLC version from debian multimedia - but show us some output first |
| 20:22.54 | SerajewelKS | steelbox: without knowing what codec the AVI file needs, we can't help you. go to a terminal and run "file whatever.avi" and paste the result here |
| 20:22.55 | cahoot | mplayer tends to be plenty informative |
| 20:23.02 | steelbox | babilen: okay but with which command? |
| 20:23.04 | Titan8990 | babilen: that is questionable... I have VLC via dmm but upstream VLC recommends against dmm repos |
| 20:23.15 | babilen | Titan8990: They do? |
| 20:23.18 | Titan8990 | babilen: it might have been a political thing however |
| 20:23.19 | steelbox | SerajewelKS: okay |
| 20:23.49 | steelbox | SerajewelKS: so, for a specific movie, I got that: |
| 20:23.59 | steelbox | RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 624 x 336, 23.98 fps, video: DivX 5, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 48000 Hz |
| 20:24.02 | Titan8990 | babilen: http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=70719 |
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| 20:24.38 | SerajewelKS | steelbox: and you are sure it's not corrupted at all? divx should be playable OOTB. have you tried playing it with totem? |
| 20:24.54 | d1b | try vlc |
| 20:25.13 | steelbox | SerajewelKS: no indeed |
| 20:25.14 | babilen | Titan8990: Oh well, i will read that thread ... |
| 20:25.44 | steelbox | SerajewelKS: it seems to works |
| 20:25.51 | SerajewelKS | steelbox: in totem? |
| 20:25.56 | steelbox | SerajewelKS: yeah |
| 20:26.05 | SerajewelKS | steelbox: well then... use totem :) |
| 20:26.12 | steelbox | SerajewelKS: nooo :) |
| 20:26.34 | SerajewelKS | steelbox: aside from other advantages, totem actually supports gvfs... |
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| 20:26.43 | steelbox | SerajewelKS: I like vlc and I'd like to play video with it |
| 20:26.53 | steelbox | SerajewelKS: gvfs? |
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| 20:27.06 | Smiley | jelly: while you were gone i got leet ;) |
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| 20:27.21 | SerajewelKS | steelbox: a gnome service responsible for mounting remote network shares |
| 20:27.45 | SerajewelKS | steelbox: vlc understands some of the same URIs (like smb://) but does not share credentials with gvfs and doesn't understand things like sftp:// |
| 20:27.49 | steelbox | SerajewelKS: i'm not interested by that |
| 20:27.55 | SerajewelKS | steelbox: ok just saying :) |
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| 20:28.09 | steelbox | SerajewelKS: yeah no problem thx for the info :) |
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| 20:28.18 | Jinko | some one know a free sms gateway provider ? |
| 20:28.25 | Jinko | *someone |
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| 20:28.34 | steelbox | SerajewelKS: so, is there a way to play avi files with vlc or not? |
| 20:28.42 | d1b | Jinko: google |
| 20:28.47 | zleap | steelbox, should be |
| 20:28.53 | SerajewelKS | steelbox: avi files? yes. avi files with specific codecs? that depends on the codec. |
| 20:28.55 | zleap | i play lots of stuff with vlc, |
| 20:28.59 | Jinko | d1b: done many hours ago |
| 20:29.14 | d1b | Jinko: im being serious |
| 20:29.20 | Jinko | me too -_- |
| 20:29.22 | SerajewelKS | steelbox: i would expect divx5 to work with vlc, but i can't say i pay attention to what codecs all my videos use |
| 20:29.25 | zleap | i think you have to enable the right repositories, e.g non free, than do a search for avi, in synaptic |
| 20:29.25 | steelbox | SerajewelKS: i'm a little bit surprised because it fully worked under ubuntu, so ... |
| 20:29.34 | zleap | or avi codec, to make sure the right codes are there |
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| 20:29.37 | SerajewelKS | steelbox: then you may need w32codecs from dmm |
| 20:29.46 | SerajewelKS | zleap: avi is not a codec |
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| 20:29.49 | steelbox | SerajewelKS: already installed :) |
| 20:29.57 | SerajewelKS | steelbox: dunno then. use totem :) |
| 20:29.57 | Jinko | d1b: I found a free gateway but not a free provider |
| 20:29.59 | AppDeb | if gvfs mounts the filesystems with fuse, all programs work not only those that support gvfs |
| 20:30.01 | zleap | i know but don't you need a codec to play avi files |
| 20:30.07 | steelbox | SerajewelKS: lol okay |
| 20:30.19 | SerajewelKS | AppDeb: in theory. i find that nautilus doesn't always know which ones understand gvfs |
| 20:30.21 | steelbox | strange |
| 20:30.22 | d1b | Jinko: google does free smsing |
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| 20:30.26 | d1b | depends on the country |
| 20:30.46 | SerajewelKS | AppDeb: and drag/drop to VLC doesn't seem to map the correct local gvfs path either, so i have to use the "add files" button in vlc |
| 20:31.10 | AppDeb | SerajewelKS, not in theory, always. They are mounted in your $HOME/.gvfs/xxx/ |
| 20:31.10 | SerajewelKS | zleap: you don't need a codec to play *any* avi file. you need an avi demuxer, which vlc has built-in. |
| 20:31.19 | zleap | ah |
| 20:31.26 | zleap | thanks |
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| 20:31.36 | SerajewelKS | AppDeb: right, i know where they are mounted, just saying that nautilus isn't exactly the smartest when it comes to where to use the path and where to use the uri |
| 20:31.44 | steelbox | SerajewelKS: is there a way to know which codecs are installed with vlc? |
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| 20:32.06 | SerajewelKS | zleap: avi is just a container; it takes N streams (each possibly using a different codec) and weaves them together. it's the contained data you need a specific codec for. |
| 20:32.09 | Jinko | d1b: I need not a free sms used to send a messaga on a mobile phone a nedd a sms server (free) |
| 20:32.20 | SerajewelKS | steelbox: go to the preferences and enable advanced mode, then look at the input codecs? |
| 20:32.28 | AppDeb | SerajewelKS, if gvfs is enabled with fuse (not without) nautilus always exposes the real path not the virtual one |
| 20:32.30 | Jinko | *needn't |
| 20:32.48 | SerajewelKS | AppDeb: hmm, in my experience this is not so with drag-n-drop |
| 20:32.57 | SerajewelKS | AppDeb: perhaps that's been fixed since i last tried it |
| 20:33.17 | AppDeb | SerajewelKS, I am talking about standard double-click |
| 20:34.00 | SerajewelKS | AppDeb: right, that works for launching vlc. but for adding to its playlist by drag-n-drop, it transfers the URI instead. |
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| 20:34.18 | SerajewelKS | AppDeb: which means a broken user experience using vlc |
| 20:34.34 | Jinko | d1b: I need a sms server to use with a IT Helpdesk / Asset Software to isend a sms when I receive a new IT ticket from the customers |
| 20:34.44 | AppDeb | SerajewelKS, why don't you use VLC to navigate in the .gvfs mounts? |
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| 20:35.06 | SerajewelKS | AppDeb: i already said above, that's what i have to do. it takes more time than dragging the file into a totem playlist. :) |
| 20:35.10 | AppDeb | SerajewelKS, VLC has a browser too |
| 20:35.14 | steelbox | I got AVI and MPEG demuxers |
| 20:35.21 | Jinko | brb |
| 20:35.25 | AppDeb | SerajewelKS, ok sorry |
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| 20:35.57 | SerajewelKS | AppDeb: shrug, i'm not anti-VLC. but totem "just works" for most scenarios. for the pesky files that totem(/gstreamer) doesn't know how to decode, i use vlc. |
| 20:36.19 | SerajewelKS | steelbox: it's not the demuxers we care about, it's the codecs |
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| 20:36.45 | AppDeb | SerajewelKS, the biggest problem with totem and gstreamer is that there is no opengl output. |
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| 20:37.39 | SerajewelKS | AppDeb: well since i'm using nouveau these days, since some xorg changes broke nvidia, opengl doesn't help me much anyway :) |
| 20:37.45 | Brigo | any playonlinux user here? |
| 20:37.51 | SerajewelKS | !anyone use |
| 20:37.51 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
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| 20:39.11 | Araya | Somebody has debian pppc? i can't to see youtube and don't found if i could be possible |
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| 20:39.48 | d1b | Araya: yes with swf-dec |
| 20:39.59 | Araya | i try but not work |
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| 20:43.01 | Smiley | I want a small, fast browser which supports flash, etc normal things you'd expect? |
| 20:43.11 | Smiley | im using an eeePC, so if it can have small icons etc thats even better. |
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| 20:43.23 | Smiley | iceweasel my default simply because I dont know what else would work well... |
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| 20:43.57 | jhutchins_lt | Smiley: Iceweasel works pretty well. |
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| 20:44.05 | Smiley | seems very slow here to start up |
| 20:44.07 | jhutchins_lt | Smiley: Konqueror doesn't really any more. |
| 20:44.10 | Smiley | maybe thats because I just started it up |
| 20:44.29 | Smiley | I need to get noscript on it also. |
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| 20:44.33 | jhutchins_lt | Smiley: Yes, there are ways to pre-load it, but it's a lot of code to load. |
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| 20:44.49 | thrashold | Araya: Is there Gnash for PPC? If yes, try that |
| 20:45.01 | jhutchins_lt | Smiley: Some people like Opera, and some like Chrome, but I stick with the basics. |
| 20:45.10 | Smiley | really really needs to turn off the "tap" on his touchpad |
| 20:45.12 | Smiley | so annoying |
| 20:45.27 | Smiley | Is there an app for controlling a touchpad, or is it all via the xorg conf? |
| 20:45.29 | Araya | thrashold: i install it but can't to see video |
| 20:45.35 | adb | !eeepc |
| 20:45.35 | dpkg | The Eee PC (aka RM ASUS Minibook) is a <netbook> designed by ASUS. Linux models are supplied with <Xandros> which is not supported in #debian, join #eeepc on irc.freenode.net for support. To install Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC for installation and configuration details. See also <atl2>, <atl1c>. Mailing list: http://alioth.debian.org/mail/?group_id=31309 #debian-eeepc on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 20:45.51 | steelbox | I have identified the source of the problem |
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| 20:46.27 | thrashold | Araya: Another option, install Video Download Helper, or install greasemonkey and find a script that replaces the flash with an embebded video |
| 20:46.52 | thrashold | Araya: script -> userscript. You should then be able to download and/or watch the videos |
| 20:47.23 | Araya | ok |
| 20:47.35 | Smiley | i've already gone though the wiki page i think, i'll have to take another go. |
| 20:47.35 | Araya | but it is for a littele girl |
| 20:47.49 | thrashold | Araya: The user script is the best idea then |
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| 20:47.58 | Nebukadneza | heho |
| 20:48.10 | Sanleis | I have read lynx can works with frames and https. Is this ok? |
| 20:49.37 | zleap | lynx is a command line browser |
| 20:50.04 | Sanleis | zleap, yes and it is supposed to work with frames |
| 20:50.25 | babilen | Sanleis: Haven't used lynx in ages, but w3m supports frames and https (lynx might as well) |
| 20:50.28 | veryape | sanleis: think youre talking about links |
| 20:50.43 | zleap | i think lynx is a w3c compliant browser, |
| 20:50.54 | zleap | as if your site meets the w3c standards ten lynx should work |
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| 20:51.08 | Sanleis | it is a hosting web sac |
| 20:51.13 | Nebukadneza | i've got quite a problem removing pyicqt: http://nopaste.info/3590b62acc.html ... is there anything i can do to actually get rid of that package? |
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| 20:51.30 | Sanleis | I can not browse on frames |
| 20:51.44 | Sanleis | Always i am redirect ti same page |
| 20:51.53 | sorressean | I need to specify a nofb boot parameter, when I go to boot I type nofb and it says can't find specified kernel image. what's the default kernel? |
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| 20:53.17 | peleczek | hello |
| 20:53.42 | _ython | any one know how to install python2.6 on debian without breaking my system it is a production box so i m little scared :D |
| 20:53.54 | peleczek | how to configure one of my ttys to load irssi f.e |
| 20:53.54 | sorressean | just apt-get it. |
| 20:53.57 | sorressean | You won't break anythihng |
| 20:53.59 | Smiley | sorressean: when are you typing it? |
| 20:54.01 | dondelelcaro | 1/topic |
| 20:54.06 | sorressean | I'm typing it at the boot prompt. |
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| 20:54.13 | Smiley | peleczek: f.e.? |
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| 20:54.16 | Smiley | sorressean: which boot promt? |
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| 20:54.21 | Smiley | grub or lilo? |
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| 20:54.32 | sorressean | I hit escape to get to the prompt and type nofb there. |
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| 20:54.41 | peleczek | for example. i'm talking about loading irssi on startup |
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| 20:55.00 | Smiley | peleczek: you'd want to tell your terminal to load it for you |
| 20:55.02 | _ython | sorressean: i dont see it in apt-get :/ |
| 20:55.08 | Smiley | terminal are you using? |
| 20:55.17 | sorressean | I dunno, which ever loader the install cd uses |
| 20:55.28 | sorressean | And you don't tell your kernel to use irssi, you tell cron to load it. |
| 20:55.28 | _ython | sorressean: i think it is in unstable :D |
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| 20:55.45 | Smiley | sorressean: cron? pffft |
| 20:55.49 | babilen | _ython: which version of Debian do you use? |
| 20:55.53 | Smiley | but yeah you dont tell tjhe kernel to load it LOL |
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| 20:57.08 | Smiley | I use screen to load my irssi session, via my ~/.xinitrc |
| 20:57.08 | sorressean | Naw, it's not in testing. you can grab a package from python.org, though. sorry about that, I thought it was in testing/stable. |
| 20:57.13 | Smiley | but its taken me today to sort it out. |
| 20:57.18 | peleczek | i'm using autologin script on first tty. i want to use it on other ttys too but i want some applications to autoload. i use getty 38400 |
| 20:57.42 | sorressean | anyway, What is the default kernel on the install cd? I apparently have to provide a kernel before I can provide a nofb argument. |
| 20:58.01 | babilen | peleczek: man bash --> bashrc profile etc |
| 20:58.11 | sorressean | An autologin script? doesn't that sort of kill the whole idea of login? this *isn't* windows. :| |
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| 20:58.28 | Smiley | I think he means a script that runs when he logs in. |
| 20:58.35 | Smiley | babilen: I sorted my system! \o/ |
| 20:58.53 | babilen | hehe |
| 20:59.00 | Smiley | got ssh, irssi, x, fluxbox, xfce4-terminal all working with jelly-homes help ^_^ |
| 20:59.13 | Smiley | now my system boots nicely (still need to auto load into flux though) |
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| 20:59.36 | babilen | _ython: Which version of Debian do you use? |
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| 21:00.14 | peleczek | sorresean why? i am the only person that have physical contact to pc. and i autologin to normal user so i don't see anything wrong in this |
| 21:00.33 | sorressean | No, someone who uses autologin wouldn't see a problem with it, I'm sure. |
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| 21:01.15 | jelly-home | !win Smiley |
| 21:01.15 | dpkg | Congratulations, Smiley! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
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| 21:01.36 | peleczek | if someone got physical contact to your pc autologin script is the last thing you should worry about |
| 21:01.40 | d1b | jelly-home: gg |
| 21:01.44 | sorressean | ... |
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| 21:01.50 | Smiley | :) |
| 21:02.15 | sorressean | Nevermind that someone in a household might sit down at the computer. |
| 21:02.20 | peleczek | babilen tnx for help |
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| 21:02.29 | babilen | peleczek: no problem |
| 21:03.33 | moblin | hello, how can I extract a single file from a tar.gz archive into the current directory, even if the file is stored at ./dir1/dir2/file in the archive? |
| 21:03.52 | moblin | it extracts it as dir1/dir2/file |
| 21:04.33 | moblin | this is after extracting the tar.gz from a deb file |
| 21:05.13 | steelbox | SerajewelKS: okay, I have found the problem |
| 21:05.13 | sorressean | Anyone know what kernel is used on the installation cd?... |
| 21:05.23 | steelbox | SerajewelKS: and how to solve it :) |
| 21:05.48 | babilen | sorressean: 2.6.26 - why? |
| 21:05.59 | jhutchins_lt | sorressean: Others are available. |
| 21:06.14 | sorressean | Because from the boot prompt I have to provide a kernel to disable framebuffer. |
| 21:06.19 | steelbox | SerajewelKS: u must downgrade some packages like ffmpeg, libavcodec51, etc. and delete folder .vlc |
| 21:06.27 | sorressean | So I'm trying to get the kernel name. |
| 21:07.17 | zleap | sorressean, as in which kernal your running |
| 21:07.30 | sorressean | um. as in which kernel the installer uses. |
| 21:07.41 | zleap | ah |
| 21:07.43 | jhutchins_lt | sorressean: Ah. You want the name of the kernel image on the installer, which should be "linux". |
| 21:07.55 | sorressean | thanks, I'll try it. |
| 21:08.08 | jhutchins_lt | sorressean: I think what you want to do is edit the boot parameters in grub though. |
| 21:08.24 | sorressean | eh? |
| 21:08.33 | sorressean | I'm at a boot: prompt. |
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| 21:08.43 | babilen | sorressean: of the installer? |
| 21:08.52 | sorressean | ...yeah. |
| 21:08.59 | babilen | and what do you want to do? |
| 21:09.07 | sorressean | disable framebuffer. |
| 21:09.18 | Smiley | i get what he wants to do, just can't remember how the hell to do it |
| 21:09.41 | SerajewelKS | steelbox: nice |
| 21:09.53 | sorressean | You can't disable it without hitting escape because the wise people decided to make the boot use a framebuffer as well. |
| 21:09.54 | Smiley | ;) |
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| 21:10.00 | steelbox | http://www.zeitoun.net/articles/vlc-conflict-debian-lenny-and-debian-multimedia/start |
| 21:10.16 | steelbox | SerajewelKS: thx bye ;) |
| 21:10.17 | Smiley | its something like "boot: linux;nofb |
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| 21:10.41 | Smiley | sorressean: tab? getting anything on auto complete? |
| 21:10.45 | Smiley | or help#:? |
| 21:10.47 | sorressean | Could not find kernel image "linux" |
| 21:10.59 | Smiley | or ls |
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| 21:11.50 | sorressean | this is not a grub boot prompt, so... ls won't work |
| 21:11.53 | babilen | linux debian-installer/framebuffer=false ? |
| 21:12.19 | _ython | babilen: sorry my router crashed |
| 21:12.29 | _ython | it etchy |
| 21:12.32 | sorressean | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:12.57 | babilen | linux26 ? |
| 21:13.05 | fruitwerks | ok so ispcp just nuked my apache install... can I run something to get the base install config files back? |
| 21:13.16 | babilen | _ython: you use etch? |
| 21:13.24 | _ython | yea |
| 21:13.39 | sorressean | naw, that didn't work either. :( |
| 21:13.41 | sorressean | etf. |
| 21:13.47 | adb | sorressean, vmlinuz |
| 21:13.52 | sorressean | I see a vmlinuz image, but that didn't work |
| 21:13.56 | slidesinger-lt | I found several articles on setting up tftp that state that /tftpboot should have 777 permissions, but none that say why. Does anyone know why? |
| 21:14.21 | babilen | _ython: I am not sure if you can install Python 2.6 on etch even if you compile it yourself. you should really upgrade to lenny, because etch is no longer supported |
| 21:14.52 | _ython | yea the thing is it is production system |
| 21:14.59 | _ython | i cannt upgrade :( |
| 21:15.02 | babilen | _ython: That won't really get you Python 2.6 as well and you have to compile it yourself. Use virtualenv+pip afterwards for python package installation |
| 21:15.05 | sorressean | which gives you all the more reason to upgrade |
| 21:15.14 | sorressean | "production" system doesn't mean you run out-of-date software. |
| 21:15.38 | _ython | babilen: u mean on lenny ? |
| 21:15.50 | babilen | _ython: Check if you can install the build-dependencies of Python - But you *really* need to upgrade to lenny - etch does not get *any* security fixes anymore |
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| 21:16.10 | ltbd | So I'm trying to grab some dv video from a sony camera over firewire. using dvgrab I get the following: rom1394_0 warning: read failed: 0x0000fffff0000414 error reading config rom directory for node 0 Found AV/C device with GUID 0x080046010448b611 Waiting for DV... and the camera starts playing and dvgrab should recive dv, it doesn't... Using kino it looks like this: http://pastebin.org/148754; I'm running testing and most information arou |
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| 21:16.15 | _ython | oh that is trouble |
| 21:16.17 | babilen | _ython: on etch or lenny (not sure if you can get the build dependencies on etch though) |
| 21:16.32 | sorressean | Just see if there is a package on python.org? |
| 21:16.40 | jhutchins_lt | slidesinger-lt: What's your overall goal in setting up tftp? |
| 21:17.05 | _ython | babilen: wen did they ended etch ? |
| 21:17.28 | _ython | i thought debian have long release cycles |
| 21:17.41 | sorressean | they do. etch was years ago |
| 21:17.44 | dondelelcaro | _ython: we do, and etch is quite old |
| 21:17.46 | slidesinger-lt | Will be off most of the time as it is on a laptop. It is to be used for working with routers and switches. |
| 21:18.38 | _ython | checks etch age :D |
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| 21:19.29 | fruitwerks | can I just reinstall apache and have it make the new conf files? |
| 21:19.52 | sorressean | So... minus this retarded boot prompt... is there another way to disable framebuffer? |
| 21:19.59 | sorressean | fruitwerks: yep |
| 21:20.07 | jelly-home | !tell sorressean about nofb |
| 21:20.31 | fruitwerks | sorressean help me out lol ... I need the default confs so I can start over |
| 21:20.32 | jhutchins_lt | sorressean: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s03.html.en |
| 21:20.37 | babilen | sorressean: "install debian-installer/framebuffer=false" (it's in the installation guide) |
| 21:20.45 | babilen | sorressean: or s/install/expert |
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| 21:21.23 | sorressean | o_o. ok, so the kernel name it wanted there was "install," thanks! |
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| 21:21.53 | jhutchins_lt | Looks like we want fb=false |
| 21:22.13 | babilen | sorressean: You can also use the short form for debian-.... ^^^ |
| 21:22.31 | babilen | sorressean: (fb=false) as jhutchins_lt suggested |
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| 21:23.04 | Smiley | I'm so pleased already with how this system has worked out already hehehe |
| 21:23.05 | slidesinger-lt | Even setting up a user and giving it ownership of and permissions to only that directory leaves me a little nervous. |
| 21:23.10 | Smiley | sorry for hating on debian all these years ;) |
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| 21:23.42 | docgnome_ | how do i kill the pc speaker on amd64? rmmod pcspkr doesn't work :-\ |
| 21:23.55 | sorressean | I got it going, thanks for the info. :d |
| 21:24.02 | babilen | !tell docgnome_ about pcspkr |
| 21:25.28 | babilen | !tell docgnome_ about bell |
| 21:25.52 | babilen | docgnome_: blacklist and follow the instruction in the 'bell' factoid - that should take care of it |
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| 21:26.07 | docgnome_ | babilen: thanks. i had blacklisted it in the wrong file |
| 21:26.24 | babilen | docgnome_: alright :) |
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| 21:29.45 | docgnome_ | grrr didn't work |
| 21:29.53 | _ython | does any one know how to select a mirror after install ? |
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| 21:30.21 | _ython | apart for manual edit of sources.lst |
| 21:31.35 | sorressean | just edit sources.lst and get mirrors from the debian.org site. |
| 21:31.53 | _ython | yea but apart from that ? |
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| 21:32.18 | Titan8990 | _ython: its not like yum where you can add a repo via an RPM, if that is what you are trying to get at |
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| 21:32.49 | Titan8990 | _ython: the syntax is much easier to add repos to sources.list than yum .repo files though |
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| 21:33.16 | _ython | Titan8990: that is not the point |
| 21:33.25 | _ython | sometimes u dont remember the sites |
| 21:33.33 | Titan8990 | !mirrors |
| 21:33.33 | dpkg | it has been said that debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/, see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <mirror size>. |
| 21:33.49 | Titan8990 | _ython: yes... and it would be a trajedy to have to look them up |
| 21:33.59 | Titan8990 | tragedy |
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| 22:04.09 | fruitwerks | ok cable guy was just here.. so I'm back |
| 22:04.37 | fruitwerks | yeah so I need to somehow get the original apache conf files back - ispcp wiped everything |
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| 22:04.50 | valdyn | !confmiss |
| 22:04.50 | dpkg | The reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>; |
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| 22:06.35 | fruitwerks | that did not work |
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| 22:07.41 | fruitwerks | apache2 btw |
| 22:07.49 | JordiGH | Hm, goodbye-windows.com doesn't work with Windows 7, eh? :-/ |
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| 22:08.49 | JordiGH | goodbye-microsoft.com used to install Debian, now it does Gnuisance. :-/ |
| 22:08.53 | fruitwerks | apache2.2-common didn't do it either |
| 22:09.04 | azeem | JordiGH: yes |
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| 22:09.41 | docgnome_ | awesome. my system is all screwed up now. I'm trying to upgrade from a fresh stable install to testing. this is what i'm getting now. http://pastie.org/916523 |
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| 22:11.30 | babilen | !tell docgnome_ about lenny->squeeze |
| 22:11.47 | babilen | docgnome_: install kernel, reboot, upgrade udev, continue |
| 22:11.57 | JordiGH | azeem: Wasn't it you who was telling me to do what docgnome_ is fighting with right now? |
| 22:12.29 | docgnome_ | babilen: thanks |
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| 22:14.22 | mon8 | i built and installed a kernel using dpkg -i linux-image,,,.deb ,and now it seems that i'm missing a step as the kernel cant mount root fs on "unknown block(0,0)" , i think im missing somthing, grub? mkinitrd? |
| 22:14.49 | JordiGH | mon8: That looks like grub. |
| 22:16.39 | mon8 | there is configs in the sources kernel for grub i think |
| 22:16.57 | mon8 | ^kernel sources |
| 22:17.27 | Titan8990 | update-grub, its during the kernel package installation |
| 22:17.50 | mon8 | ok i try that |
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| 22:18.11 | Titan8990 | mon8: if you have handmodified a part that is typically generated instead of configuring via the comments, I don't think it will touch it |
| 22:18.23 | Titan8990 | hand-modified |
| 22:19.07 | mon8 | ya im remembering, that was the step, like i remember this from lilo |
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| 22:23.57 | mon8 | im getting kernekl panic, not syncing vfs :( |
| 22:24.23 | mon8 | ^kernel |
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| 22:25.34 | doubleclick | mon8: i think there was some bug so you must create initramfs image manually... |
| 22:25.36 | Titan8990 | mon8: oh, this is a kernel you compiled and it fails to mount the rootfs? |
| 22:25.55 | mon8 | ya |
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| 22:26.22 | mon8 | ill do that |
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| 22:27.03 | doubleclick | mon8: check the /boot and see if the initrd.img for your kernel is there |
| 22:27.04 | Titan8990 | kernel-package --initrd worked for me with lenny's kernel-package |
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| 22:27.21 | mon8 | yes im using that |
| 22:27.27 | doubleclick | mon8: is this lenny or squeeze we're talking about, sorry? |
| 22:27.32 | mon8 | lenny |
| 22:27.38 | mon8 | but its patched |
| 22:27.48 | doubleclick | mt bad then.... sorry |
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| 22:27.53 | doubleclick | my* |
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| 22:29.48 | mon8 | i have a config in the boot directory, but no initrd image fro this new kernel |
| 22:29.55 | mon8 | ^for |
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| 22:30.29 | Titan8990 | mon8: did you use the --initrd option? |
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| 22:30.59 | Titan8990 | mon8: or mark your filesystem and hdd controller drivers "y"? |
| 22:31.05 | mon8 | yes |
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| 22:31.19 | mon8 | hm, |
| 22:31.33 | mon8 | ill check that |
| 22:31.37 | Titan8990 | mon8: that 2nd one is only required to boot without an initrd |
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| 22:31.56 | mon8 | this is --initrd |
| 22:32.25 | mon8 | i have vmlinuz, no initrd.img in /boot |
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| 22:33.45 | doubleclick | mon8: so create it.. |
| 22:34.39 | mon8 | doing so sec now |
| 22:35.03 | macrobat_ | http://www.debian.org |
| 22:35.14 | docgnome_ | hrm. well my X doesn't start anymore... i used the same xorg.conf i was using about an hour ago on i368 but it doesn't work. also tried with no xorg.conf but it still doesn't start. here is the Xorg.0.log http://pastie.org/916564 |
| 22:35.17 | mon8 | ^doing so now |
| 22:35.25 | macrobat_ | sry, unused to the client |
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| 22:36.11 | doubleclick | mon8: run update-grub after that |
| 22:36.18 | paulfm | hi everyone |
| 22:36.22 | mon8 | ok |
| 22:36.30 | doubleclick | or lilo equivalent.. :) |
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| 22:37.14 | paulfm | does anyone feel like helping me get my sound to work... or more likely... fell soo bored that even mucking with my sound seems interesting |
| 22:37.46 | jelly-home | is away: very busy no time for paulfm's sound |
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| 22:37.56 | paulfm | hahaa... |
| 22:38.06 | paulfm | jelly-home: that ok :-) |
| 22:38.17 | mon8 | the last paramater to mkinitrd is the vmlinuz? |
| 22:38.38 | paulfm | I have mpg123 installed and it complains about no modules installed |
| 22:38.38 | paulfm | but when I do a lsmod - I see snd_pcm_oss in there |
| 22:38.47 | doubleclick | mon8: i think... |
| 22:39.00 | mon8 | k |
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| 22:40.15 | jelly-home | paulfm: uname -r? lspci -nn line for your sound card? |
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| 22:40.30 | docgnome_ | Xorg -configure is segfaulting as well... http://pastie.org/916572 |
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| 22:41.19 | jelly-home | paulfm: snd_pcm_oss is just providing older /dev/dsp interface, it's not a driver for sound hardware |
| 22:41.36 | jelly-home | !tell paulfm about alsa checklist |
| 22:41.45 | doubleclick | mon8: i think i did it with 'update-initramfs' |
| 22:42.10 | doubleclick | mon8: don't really know what's the difference |
| 22:42.10 | mon8 | i cant seem to find mkinitrd |
| 22:42.11 | Titan8990 | doubleclick: what version of debian? |
| 22:42.23 | paulfm | jelly-home: 2.6.32.8, dont see anything about soundcard... I know its built in - SOC |
| 22:42.24 | doubleclick | Titan8990: squeeze O:) |
| 22:42.44 | Titan8990 | doubleclick: yeah.. sorry, mean to ask docgnome_ whose getting X segufaults :p |
| 22:42.49 | mon8 | ahh initramfs-tools |
| 22:42.56 | paulfm | jelly-home: yeah I read something about alsa-compat drivers |
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| 22:42.59 | doubleclick | Titan8990: oh :) |
| 22:43.05 | doubleclick | mon8: ;) |
| 22:43.12 | Titan8990 | docgnome_: what version of debian are you running? |
| 22:43.23 | docgnome_ | Titan8990: testing, amd64 |
| 22:43.48 | paulfm | jelly-home: so lspci -nn I see a lot of USB Controller lines... like 4, an ethernet controller and an ide controller |
| 22:44.05 | mon8 | nope :\ |
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| 22:44.13 | paulfm | jelly-home: also ISA and VGA |
| 22:44.23 | Titan8990 | docgnome_: pastebin: apt-cache policy libc6 xserver-xorg-core |
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| 22:46.15 | docgnome_ | Titan8990: http://pastie.org/916577 |
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| 22:46.52 | hardcase | howdy |
| 22:47.27 | paulfm | jelly-home: thanks for the checklist... Ill go through it |
| 22:47.30 | themill | docgnome_: I presume by "testing" you meant "unstable" then. Welcome to sid. |
| 22:47.32 | hardcase | is there a way to get gnome on lenny show a real usb stick icon for usb sticks instead of the default hard drive icon? |
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| 22:47.58 | docgnome_ | themill: erm... no by testing i meant testing. |
| 22:48.06 | lindi- | hardcase: how could gnome know? |
| 22:48.14 | themill | docgnome_: you might want to read your own paste more carefully then. |
| 22:48.17 | molgrum | openarena says "Failed to open OpenAL device." after it opens and closes instantly |
| 22:48.18 | hardcase | lindi-: kde knows ... |
| 22:48.21 | Titan8990 | docgnome_: you xserver is from sid.. you have mixed |
| 22:48.22 | lindi- | hardcase: how does kde know? |
| 22:48.28 | docgnome_ | son of a... |
| 22:48.54 | hardcase | lindi-: the device type is "flash disk" |
| 22:49.07 | mon8 | i cant find mkinitrd in the debian packages |
| 22:49.31 | docgnome_ | well that explains why it's all bork-a-doodle-doo-ed |
| 22:50.30 | docgnome_ | now, to figure out why it pulled that in from sid... |
| 22:50.34 | lindi- | hardcase: afaik usb hard disks look exactly the same to the computer |
| 22:50.35 | adb | docgnome, joy off pinning .. |
| 22:51.14 | hardcase | lindi-: so how does kde manage it? fancy guessing? every usb drive under x GB size is a flash drive? |
| 22:51.15 | mon8 | thanks doubleclick |
| 22:51.32 | themill | docgnome_: not having more than one release in your sources.list is the best way. |
| 22:51.34 | hardcase | lindi-: actually that would be fine by me |
| 22:51.39 | doubleclick | mon8: your welcome |
| 22:52.08 | doubleclick | bed time...zZz.. |
| 22:52.17 | mon8 | apropos mkinitrd |
| 22:52.24 | mon8 | oops ^ |
| 22:53.14 | doubleclick | mon8: i used 'update-initramfs -c -k 2.6.32-custom' |
| 22:53.33 | lindi- | hardcase: that was my question :) |
| 22:53.59 | hardcase | lindi-: btw kde even recognizes sd cards and compactflash cards ... there has to be a way |
| 22:54.31 | mon8 | ahh ok ill try this |
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| 22:56.18 | docgnome_ | so i must be misunderstanding pin priority. i though that things with a higher priority were always perfered over those with a lower priority. |
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| 22:57.03 | Leo2 | hello |
| 22:57.11 | Leo2 | is there a light debian distro? |
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| 22:57.29 | hardcase | how does it look on testing/unstable? does gnome still use the standard hard drive icon for usb flash drives? |
| 22:57.44 | Leo2 | is there a light debian distro? |
| 22:58.14 | adb | Leo2, what's light for you ? |
| 22:58.16 | macrobat_ | Leo2: debian is a distro |
| 22:58.30 | Leo2 | i want something for 64mb ram |
| 22:58.37 | babilen | Leo2: embedian? |
| 22:58.38 | Leo2 | im using dpoup |
| 22:58.46 | Leo2 | whats that |
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| 22:59.35 | Leo2 | do they have light windows managers? |
| 22:59.46 | Leo2 | kde is too beautiful and big |
| 22:59.50 | mon8 | doubleclick: yes, this worked, thank-you again :) |
| 22:59.53 | babilen | emdebian that is :) |
| 23:00.39 | adb | Leo2, if you want light forget X (gui) |
| 23:01.48 | Titan8990 | unless your running it on a remote server |
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| 23:02.27 | Gnudoll | Leo2: they have light weight ones yes, how light do you need it? |
| 23:02.50 | Titan8990 | Gnudoll: 64mb of ram... |
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| 23:03.02 | Gnudoll | .... wow |
| 23:03.17 | Gnudoll | windomaker? twm? |
| 23:03.26 | Gnudoll | fxde? |
| 23:03.51 | Titan8990 | yeah, it needs to be a thin client if he wants desktop functionality |
| 23:04.03 | Titan8990 | DSL is maybe |
| 23:04.04 | Gnudoll | or is that fxcd? |
| 23:05.33 | Gnudoll | what are thos alternates on teh lennyR4 cd? Gnome is the standard, KDE is one alternate, and there were two very light ones |
| 23:05.57 | Titan8990 | Gnudoll: xfce is one, but its not "very light" |
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| 23:06.32 | adb | even installing on 64mb of ram... maybe a problem |
| 23:06.39 | monkeytwin | fluxbox? |
| 23:06.44 | Gnudoll | what kind of processor ? |
| 23:08.09 | docgnome_ | so any ideas why xorg from sid is being pulled in when i'm on testing? here is my /etc/apt/preferences.d/preferences http://pastie.org/916615 here is the apt-cache policy before aptitude install xorg http://pastie.org/916614 here is after http://pastie.org/916619 |
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| 23:09.53 | Gnudoll | Leo2: what aps do yu need to run in X? |
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| 23:11.06 | stealth- | How can I enable my system to play flash videos? |
| 23:11.13 | stealth- | mplayer gives errors about "no codec" |
| 23:11.14 | macrobat | 64mb. that is like minix size |
| 23:12.27 | Gnudoll | remembers when thast was ample RAM.. . |
| 23:12.32 | macrobat | docgnome_: you need to pin over 1000, otherwise apt will get you the later version |
| 23:12.35 | Gnudoll | but I'm old. . . |
| 23:13.19 | docgnome_ | macrobat: huh. ok. thanks |
| 23:13.46 | docgnome_ | macrobat: wont that cause packages i explicitly ask for with /unstable to downgrade later? |
| 23:15.11 | macrobat | docgnome_: you can pin individual packages like this old one i had http://paste.debian.net/68640/ |
| 23:15.26 | macrobat | i pin it to a version |
| 23:15.55 | docgnome_ | hrm. i basically just want to run everything from testing except for a few packages... strange that what i'm doing now worked previously |
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| 23:16.06 | Internat | morning all. i just partitioned a 32gig usb key. made two partitions, 20gig, and 15gig.. ran mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1, it ran fine.. but when i go to mount it, i get given no valid journal superblook found.. |
| 23:16.48 | macrobat | yes, if you pin a release higher than 1000, it will overrule newer versions |
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| 23:17.11 | jhutchins_lt | docgnome_: That's the whole idea of unstable. Things that work today may not work tomorrow. |
| 23:17.14 | macrobat | Internat: no need for journals on usb keys |
| 23:17.25 | macrobat | mount it as ext2 |
| 23:17.39 | docgnome_ | jhutchins_lt: right, but i'm not trying to run unstable. i'm trying to run testing. and my aptitude is from testing. |
| 23:17.57 | rgr | I cant find a graphical UI for configuring my mouse appearance - only update alternatives which then needs an X restart. Is there another way (gnome). |
| 23:17.58 | Internat | mmm but it shouldnt do that either way should it? |
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| 23:18.19 | docgnome_ | i guess there must be a new version of x in unstable that wasn't there earlier heh |
| 23:18.58 | Titan8990 | Internat: sure you usb key was sda1? |
| 23:18.58 | Internat | positive |
| 23:19.09 | Titan8990 | internal hard drives read as hdx? |
| 23:19.13 | Internat | yep |
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| 23:21.02 | docgnome_ | so i guess that makes what is posted here incorrect or, at least, inaccurate http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html |
| 23:21.13 | macrobat | docgnome_: http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/debian.html#errata |
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| 23:26.28 | Sebboh | Hi. You know how you can apt-get source foo .. and it will download something like foo_0.1.orig.tar.gz, foo*.dsc, foo*.diff.gz and so on? Then it runs some commands for you to extract those tarballs and apply the patches. ..Suppose I have the files in a directory, and I want to just carry out the extract+patch process. How do I do that? |
| 23:27.06 | Sebboh | The reason I ask is, those files don't seem to be available on my mirror anymore. (I won't bother to find a different mirror, because I still have a copy of those files from my old working directory.) |
| 23:27.54 | adb | !sdo |
| 23:27.55 | dpkg | http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces the old http://snapshot.debian.net/ site that is no longer maintained. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
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| 23:29.38 | Sebboh | ... again, I have the files. |
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| 23:30.08 | Sebboh | I think that dpkg-source -x foo.dsc might be what apt-get source foo does after downloading the files, I'll try it. |
| 23:31.54 | Sebboh | Yes, it seems to have done what I wanted. |
| 23:32.12 | Sebboh | Cheers and thanks adb. |
| 23:32.25 | eonbluez | CAPTAIN SPACKLETOOTH WE MEET AGAIN |
| 23:32.41 | adb | yw /msg dpkg ssb , would help too |
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| 23:38.19 | docgnome_ | ugh. so i removed all that pinning crap and i've got x from testing. aand it's still busted. |
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| 23:39.00 | cp | hey is there somthing out there better than webmin |
| 23:39.00 | cp | ? |
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| 23:39.44 | docgnome_ | my Xorg.0.log is http://pastie.org/916672 |
| 23:39.49 | macrobat | !webmin |
| 23:39.49 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://bugs.debian.org/343897 about the removal from Debian. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. |
| 23:40.53 | cp | so is there something worth a crap ? |
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| 23:41.15 | jeeves | ok guys, I'm stuck, and I can't do any package installs/upgrades. How can I fix this? http://pastebin.com/FbsVPMAT |
| 23:41.55 | macrobat | cp: i know there is. but i dont run a server. i dont know what those tools are called |
| 23:42.07 | cp | hmm |
| 23:42.29 | cp | webmin has tottaly fkd my system |
| 23:42.31 | cp | junk |
| 23:42.36 | cp | lol |
| 23:42.46 | jeeves | cp, don't play with Virtualmin either. SAme crap |
| 23:42.46 | cp | wont ever use it again for sure |
| 23:43.23 | cp | time to rm -rf * |
| 23:44.36 | jeeves | cp, do it up! (P.S. - Works well on iPhones as well) |
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| 23:45.25 | macrobat | jeeves: try #ubuntu |
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| 23:45.36 | jeeves | macrobat, tried that |
| 23:45.45 | macrobat | and i recommend aptitude over apt-get |
| 23:46.15 | docgnome_ | any ideas about why xorg won't start? my Xorg.0.log is http://pastie.org/916672 |
| 23:46.29 | jeeves | macrobat, lol, is there a "hail mary" to get it to auto fix? |
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| 23:47.00 | macrobat | repent, then install debian :) |
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| 23:48.17 | macrobat | ubuntu has different repos and versions than debian has. i dont have that ubuntu-specific knowledge |
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| 23:53.19 | macrobat | docgnome_: you have no /dev/fb0 character special device |
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| 23:54.28 | macrobat | i dont know if it is necessary or what would make it appear. it belongs to the "video" group on my system |
| 23:54.50 | macrobat | apt-file search /dev/fb0 doesn't find anything |
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| 23:56.27 | docgnome_ | macrobat: weeeell... i installed gdm just now and that works. |
| 23:56.38 | docgnome_ | startx is still broke but... as long as gdm works i don't really care |
| 23:56.56 | macrobat | high five, docgnome_ |
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| 23:58.15 | docgnome_ | yeah... be better if startx worked. makes me a little nervous that it doesn't but i'm so sick of this endevor i just want my box to work again heh |
| 23:58.22 | Only-One | Hi friends, I invite you to a new network of mIRC, /s -m irc.joinirc.org [join #CService for HELP] |
| 23:58.55 | docgnome_ | heh. |
| 23:59.37 | docgnome_ | someone should tottally write a psdoom clone that is irc users instead of processes on a box |
