| 00:00.09 | Hodapp | what controls which interfaces Debian tries to bring up at startup? I have it on my Eee and I would prefer to not have a bunch of "eth0: link is not ready" error messages spewed all over the login prompt |
| 00:00.32 | abrotman | Hodapp: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:00.32 | Titan8990 | Hodapp: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:00.47 | Hodapp | can you be a little more specific? |
| 00:00.52 | Hodapp | nothing there says "auto" except for 'lo' |
| 00:00.53 | Titan8990 | abrotman: win with irssi tab-completion |
| 00:01.00 | abrotman | ? |
| 00:01.35 | abrotman | neurodamage: i assume you left some out, but it doesn't look awful |
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| 00:06.11 | Hodapp | ugh, still throwing "wlan0: link is not ready" and "eth0: link is not ready"... wish I knew why |
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| 00:08.38 | streuner | Hodapp: and it worked before? |
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| 00:09.10 | Hodapp | it's working just fine, just something is trying to use those interfaces at startup and I'd like to avoid that |
| 00:09.42 | abrotman | Hodapp: do you have some .. auto-manager like wicd or network-manager installed ? |
| 00:10.01 | Hodapp | well, I have wicd but I thought I disabled its automatic connection |
| 00:10.20 | neurodamage | abrotman: whoops that's missing a lot of things |
| 00:10.25 | abrotman | i thought so |
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| 00:11.03 | g00se_ | It would seem that even after rebooting the box, a udp tftpd socket survives, thus preventing tftpd being restarted. Why? |
| 00:11.06 | neurodamage | abrotman: basically it goes through and errors out on all kinds of dependency issues etc...and doesn't remove install the >1,000 modifications, where modifications include install, remove, upgrade |
| 00:11.24 | abrotman | neurodamage: did you install dpkg/aptitude after changing your sources |
| 00:11.24 | Devastator | is there a similar program of chkdsk in linux? I'm trying to fix an NTFS partition |
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| 00:11.32 | neurodamage | abrotman: sure did :) |
| 00:11.58 | streuner | Devastator: look into ntfsprogs or such, just google for NTFS and linux |
| 00:12.07 | abrotman | neurodamage: there's probably an actual error in there somewhere |
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| 00:13.26 | streuner | Devastator: http://linux-ntfs.org/doku.php , but why not just use windows? |
| 00:13.35 | neurodamage | abrotman: yup fishing out for those right now :) |
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| 00:15.33 | neurodamage | abrotman: seems to be a few --configure issues on dependencies, in this case gstreamer*-plugins-base* -> libgudev (>=146), I'll post full errors here soon |
| 00:15.47 | g00se_ | Thanks for help guys |
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| 00:17.09 | zok | I'm trying to make it so that a user can only log in via ftp (not ssh also) |
| 00:17.23 | zok | I changed their entry in /etc/passwd so that their shell is /bin/false |
| 00:17.25 | neurodamage | abrotman: gonna try apt-get install -f, see if that fixes some of those, but that's forward progress, thanks for bearing with me through the birth pains of moving the system over :) |
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| 00:17.32 | zok | And that didn't seem to work :/ |
| 00:17.37 | abrotman | neurodamage: aptitude -f install .. much better |
| 00:17.48 | zok | It keeps telling them "login failure" |
| 00:18.06 | abrotman | is /bin/false in /etc/shells ? |
| 00:18.41 | zok | abrotman: haha, awesome! |
| 00:18.44 | zok | That fixed it :D |
| 00:18.46 | zok | Thanks so much! |
| 00:19.38 | neurodamage | abrotman: kk, kewl, running that now too |
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| 00:22.49 | jpwhiting | exit |
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| 00:47.56 | jhambo | is debian squeeze really any less stable than ubuntu. I'm a longtime debian user but I went to ubuntu to get a "stable" KDE4 system and I'm finding lots of bugs in ubuntu. And the ubuntu support really leaves something to be desired compared to debian... |
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| 00:48.39 | dondelelcaro | jhambo: it changes constantly, so the answer to that is "it depends" |
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| 00:51.57 | jhambo | ubuntu support seems to often end with the suggestion to reboot. So I'm sure looking forward to squeeze going stable |
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| 01:00.54 | peterrooney | jhambo: lenny should be more stable than ubuntu. isn't kde4 available in backports? |
| 01:00.58 | peterrooney | ,versions kde |
| 01:00.59 | judd | kde -- etch: 5:47; lenny: 5:48 |
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| 01:18.01 | poincare101 | Hi guys. I'm trying to install php, installed the php5 package, but I still get no command found on typing in php, what package do I need to install to get the commandline program? |
| 01:18.58 | gapz | poincare101: php5-cli ? |
| 01:19.28 | gapz | (does your nickname come from the french scientist ? :)) |
| 01:19.36 | poincare101 | gapz: mathematician, yes |
| 01:19.50 | morphix | Is it safe to replace lzma with xz-utils? |
| 01:19.50 | gapz | great scientist btw :) |
| 01:19.53 | abrotman | isn't that the conjecture the crazy russian guy proved? |
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| 01:20.04 | morphix | dpkg seems to have a clear intention of telling me to NOT do it |
| 01:20.04 | dpkg | morphix: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 01:20.06 | gapz | abrotman: yes :) |
| 01:20.12 | poincare101 | gapz: This is the error I get when I do that: E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing? |
| 01:20.29 | gapz | erf, strange |
| 01:20.34 | abrotman | poincare101: put your sources.list in a pastebin (make sure you've done an aptitude update first) |
| 01:20.38 | poincare101 | abrotman: yeah... |
| 01:21.02 | gapz | (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Poincaré#Work_on_relativity too) |
| 01:21.23 | poincare101 | abrotman: thank you. apt-get update did it :) |
| 01:21.36 | abrotman | poincare101: you hsould really be using aptitude |
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| 01:27.37 | mooglenorph | Hello. Is there a really nice non-gnome or KDE image viewer that supports zooming with the mouse wheel, and scrolling aroung? Light weight. |
| 01:27.57 | poincare101 | abrotman: what's the difference? |
| 01:28.10 | gapz | !tell poincare101 why aptitude |
| 01:28.49 | mooglenorph | poincare101: I don't have gnome or kde installed, I don't want to bother pulling in all the deps if I can avoid it. |
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| 01:29.17 | gapz | mooglenorph: qiv, gqview ? |
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| 01:29.34 | gapz | (but I'm not sure for the mouse related thing) |
| 01:29.39 | mooglenorph | gapz: thanks |
| 01:29.56 | mooglenorph | suggestions are good. I've just never really worked with images before |
| 01:29.59 | poincare101 | mooglenorph: xpaint with scripts? |
| 01:30.12 | gapz | haha |
| 01:30.15 | poincare101 | poincare101: (its might be a pain though) |
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| 01:31.20 | PARLIAMENT | dd with really complex scripts? |
| 01:31.23 | PARLIAMENT | :) |
| 01:31.26 | mooglenorph | And kde/gnome things tend to behave iffily with tiling WM's |
| 01:31.30 | gapz | PARLIAMENT: :> |
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| 01:31.57 | slidesinger | Getting the following three messages over and over on the console (about every ten seconds) Initializing XFRM netlink socket padlock: VIA PadLock Hash Engine not detected. padlock: VIA PadLock not detected. |
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| 01:32.18 | mooglenorph | Oh, man, gqview is *perfect*, thanks! |
| 01:32.25 | gapz | mooglenorph: :) |
| 01:32.32 | jamesd2 | what is the name of the app that the installer uses to configure apt-get mirrors? |
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| 01:33.08 | gapz | UTSL ? :) |
| 01:33.22 | morphix | Are there any guides in bridging an ethernet and wireless interface together but having the wireless use wpa encryption (trying to create a gateway with both LAN and wireless) |
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| 01:34.05 | slidesinger | I have read that this has something to do with cryptsetup and read the bug reports but nothing conclusive. Trying to look for more information and determine whether I need to file a bug report myself. |
| 01:34.23 | peterrooney | morphix: it's not a case of, to userland, they're just two interfaces to be bridged? |
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| 01:35.23 | slidesinger | dmesg only lists the messages over and over. Not sure what I am looking for, any suggestions? |
| 01:35.30 | morphix | Just trying bridge the 2 interfaces so that computers connecting on the ethernet port and wireless are all on the same network and can all get the same IP ranges from dhcp3-server and talk to each other |
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| 01:40.59 | Tametomo | Any suggestions on how to deal with cyclic dependencies with apt? |
| 01:41.39 | Tametomo | I'd think that if you managed to mark everything in which the package depends on, it'd work. However, I encountered a case (potentially not within debian) which wouldn't allow for this to happen. |
| 01:42.15 | Tametomo | Oh right, there's the force option, isn't there? |
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| 01:50.57 | dondelelcaro | Theoden: what about them? they basically aren't a problem in most cases. |
| 01:51.31 | simonrvn | meh, took off |
| 01:51.42 | dvs | take off, eh? |
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| 01:51.53 | simonrvn | !lart ask-and-run questions/people |
| 01:51.53 | dpkg | nukes ask-and-run questions/people with a single large nuke |
| 01:53.06 | Theoden | dondelelcaro: ?? |
| 01:53.26 | simonrvn | Theoden: ignore |
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| 01:54.56 | wols | morphix: why would you need to bridge interfaces to have hosts talk to each othoer? |
| 01:55.15 | dvs | huh? |
| 01:55.50 | simonrvn | good question |
| 01:56.08 | simonrvn | (you don't ;) |
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| 01:57.17 | dondelelcaro | Theoden: it tab completed to you instead of Tametomo |
| 01:57.23 | dondelelcaro | (my connection is seriously lagged right now) |
| 01:58.58 | morphix | wols: well all i want is for dhcp3-server to be dishing out IPS on both eth0 and wlan0 and so clients on either eth0 or wlan0 to talk to each other easily.. bridging seems the easiest? |
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| 02:00.08 | Theoden | dondelelcaro: np. :) |
| 02:00.33 | fas3r | i try to use my dedicated server like a smtp relay it's work if i send mail on gmail or other but for some reason i dont receive mail on other domain ... but i saw the mail going out on log file |
| 02:01.06 | fas3r | some idea ? |
| 02:01.44 | wols | yes I have some idea: do a better problem description |
| 02:02.00 | gapz | what a good idea wols ! (-: |
| 02:02.01 | morphix | its probably getting dumped to spam |
| 02:02.07 | wols | morphix: does the dhcpd assign IPs to both subnets right now? is ip forwarding activated? |
| 02:02.34 | morphix | I only want 1 subnet |
| 02:02.49 | wols | answer my question |
| 02:03.29 | morphix | No, not currently as i have only done 1 interface or the other.. i cant assign both interfaces the same IP can i |
| 02:03.45 | wols | obviously you can't but you don't need to, do you? |
| 02:04.16 | morphix | I want both to have the same ip and be on the subnet.. like a typical router setup |
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| 02:06.01 | simonrvn | you can't do that; how does the network know how to route packets (leave out routers right now) |
| 02:06.06 | simonrvn | ? |
| 02:06.48 | fas3r | wols, i use postfix like a open smtp relay on a dedicated server (in a datacenter i guess ... ). i have specify my isp ip adress in the main.cf on "mynetworks" do be allow to use postfix like an opensmtp relay. |
| 02:06.57 | simonrvn | a "typical router setup" doesn't involve having 2 hosts with the same ip |
| 02:07.25 | wols | a typical router setup doesn't involved a eth and wlan bridge either |
| 02:07.31 | \amethyst | simonrvn: he's talking about a router having the same IP address on both the LAN and WLAN |
| 02:07.34 | simonrvn | why do you have an open relay open to thei internet? |
| 02:07.46 | wols | fas3r: and that's a seriously stupid thing to do |
| 02:07.57 | \amethyst | afaict |
| 02:07.57 | wols | simonrvn: first degree idiocy |
| 02:08.11 | fas3r | what the open relay ? |
| 02:08.18 | simonrvn | \amethyst: i don't know |
| 02:08.29 | simonrvn | "22:06 < fas3r> wols, i use postfix like a open smtp relay" |
| 02:08.46 | simonrvn | (besides the bad grammar :P) |
| 02:08.52 | Titan8990 | but he did also say that he has to put his ip address in the config |
| 02:09.01 | wols | fas3r: read about smtpd auth before continuing please |
| 02:09.10 | simonrvn | is confused anyway |
| 02:09.34 | fas3r | i will use sasl i try to understand postfix before |
| 02:09.53 | Titan8990 | fas3r: http://www.abuse.net/relay.html you can test |
| 02:09.59 | simonrvn | people who try to do something should *research* it *first* instead of doing it blindly and following "howtos" |
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| 02:11.12 | simonrvn | (then i wouldn't have to deal with r00ted RH machines) |
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| 02:11.46 | simonrvn | makes people's lives easier. |
| 02:11.57 | wols | Titan8990: once I had someone in #postfix where his box spewed out spam as an open relay. turns out he set mynetwork <his ip>/24 and someone in the same subnet as him, a neighbour, had a malware infection that used his MTA |
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| 02:12.19 | dvs | feels sorry for simonrvn for working with RH machines |
| 02:12.23 | simonrvn | wee |
| 02:12.25 | wols | public subnet that is |
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| 02:12.34 | simonrvn | dvs: they're not even mine! |
| 02:12.57 | simonrvn | nor did / do i manage them |
| 02:13.03 | fas3r | wols, i know i test .. ok i will use sasl with mysql after .. it's jsut i have try to send email that's work but not for all domain i want to determit why .. |
| 02:13.15 | wols | fas3r: no need for mysql for a small setup |
| 02:13.29 | fas3r | it's not for a small setup |
| 02:13.41 | wols | fas3r: and you still haven't done a proper problem description. for me, it's all rambling |
| 02:14.00 | fas3r | sorry if english is not my first language |
| 02:14.08 | wols | !fr |
| 02:14.08 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net. |
| 02:14.21 | fas3r | nobody at this time they sleep |
| 02:14.24 | simonrvn | fas3r: a good rule of thumb is block everything, then punch holes. this is also useful for "firewalls[D[D[D[D[D" |
| 02:14.31 | wols | and it's not so much the grammar but leaving out crucial facts |
| 02:15.45 | fas3r | have you finish ? |
| 02:16.45 | wols | fas3r: have you? |
| 02:16.54 | simonrvn | i know i was just teasing about that ;). he could tease me about whatever if he wants ;p |
| 02:18.21 | morphix | My intention is to use this box as a wired and wireless router for 3G/HSPA internet that has DNS cach & squid cache too |
| 02:18.56 | morphix | and so far it works.. but with only either the wired interface or the wireless interface at a time |
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| 02:21.34 | karlpinc | morphix: I'm used to a dhcpd that you give multiple interface names to on the command line and it then serves on all of them. I use ISCs dhcpd. YMMV. |
| 02:22.31 | karlpinc | morphix: If you want 2 different networks, sans bridging, run 2 dhcpds. |
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| 02:22.43 | morphix | I want 1 network only. |
| 02:22.54 | morphix | the same network on both interfaces |
| 02:23.25 | wols | karlpinc: why would you need 2 dhcpd for 2 networks? |
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| 02:23.26 | dondelelcaro | morphix: then you can use brctl to bridge the interfaces, or whatever makes sense depending on your network topology |
| 02:23.35 | dondelelcaro | wols: you don't |
| 02:23.46 | morphix | dondelelcaro: yes, but i was asking for help about doing that.. all along |
| 02:23.48 | wols | dondelelcaro: I know, I was asking karlpinc |
| 02:23.48 | dondelelcaro | has run the same dhcp server over a few dozen subnets |
| 02:24.16 | karlpinc | wols: Because I'm tired? |
| 02:24.27 | fas3r | thank for your help |
| 02:24.30 | wols | tucks karlpinc in |
| 02:24.30 | dondelelcaro | morphix: so do you want to do bridging? or what? |
| 02:24.49 | morphix | dondelelcaro: yes |
| 02:25.31 | dondelelcaro | morphix: then brctl addbr br0; brctl addif br0 foo; brctl addif br0 bar; as appropriate |
| 02:25.36 | dondelelcaro | morphix: man brctl; for more details |
| 02:25.43 | morphix | ok |
| 02:25.45 | morphix | thanks. |
| 02:25.46 | dondelelcaro | morphix: and see the lartc if you want more information |
| 02:25.57 | dondelelcaro | !tell morphix -about lartc |
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| 02:27.30 | \amethyst | you're doing the redirection before you even launch sudo, let alone chroot |
| 02:27.32 | \amethyst | doh |
| 02:28.01 | dondelelcaro | (though honestly, if I had a wireless network and a wired network, I'd have them on separate subnets and do routing in between them instead of bridging, but that's just me) |
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| 02:50.23 | cheako | Hello, has any one every seen applications that use /usr/loca/<appname> instead of say /opt/<appname> are these valid? |
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| 02:51.23 | cheako | Would /usr/local/<appname>/libexec be the correct place for perl modules? for 'use <appname>::<modulename>'? |
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| 03:01.32 | RedMachineD | ruwfhvigrbvcyirbcuvylbvpyibet DEBIAN LINUX |
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| 03:09.39 | near | anyone can tell me why no ip will get the ip my router assigns and not the one of my modem? |
| 03:15.17 | simonrvn | because you're not telling it to do that? just a guess .... |
| 03:16.23 | near | lol |
| 03:16.31 | near | i placed the nat translation option |
| 03:16.38 | near | at least it says so when you do noip2 -S |
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| 03:20.46 | gnat_x | hey folks. i'm trying to use notify-send but am having trouble doing it as my user. i can send messages just fine as root. when i do it as myself nothing happens, it just hangs indefinitely with no message. |
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| 03:25.39 | mainstreet | Ok, so, I've tried a bunch of different ways to install GLIB, but I can't seem to get the right package name for it. Little help here please? |
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| 03:26.51 | mainstreet | ohithar |
| 03:26.59 | Hannibal | indeed |
| 03:27.27 | Hannibal | http://pate.pastebin.com/ki0Weisy |
| 03:27.39 | Hannibal | that is probably glibc |
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| 03:33.02 | extor | If I want to install squeeze via PXE do I need a special kernel and initrd or can I use an older lenny one? |
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| 03:37.56 | Gryllida | hello there |
| 03:37.58 | |if3 | who here could give me a solution to my tunneling problem |
| 03:38.00 | |if3 | :o |
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| 03:38.03 | |if3 | crazy |
| 03:38.15 | Gryllida | ask your question in full |
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| 03:38.44 | |if3 | I want to remotely access my files with a putty tunnel (which I have set up already), so that I can use firefox/(release candidates) to view my files from any computer? |
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| 03:39.25 | |if3 | ie: I have putty tunneled into my fileserver, and I need to moderate my files. I want to do this using any common web browser, ie: firefox/namoroka, etc. |
| 03:39.42 | stealth- | Whats the command to make popups appear in gnome? Not zenity type popups, the notification type that wicd-client uses..... Anyone know the command to use them? |
| 03:40.20 | |if3 | if anyone has a solution to my problem, feel free to either say my name in the text you want sent to me, or PM me. |
| 03:40.49 | |if3 | fyi: I don't have chatlogs, and my scrollback is like 100 lines. heh |
| 03:41.06 | |if3 | thanks guys, |
| 03:41.06 | |if3 | is going to bed |
| 03:41.06 | |if3 | night all |
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| 03:41.32 | ironcamel1 | anyone know if there is a log file that contains failed login attempts, so you can know if you are being attacked |
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| 03:42.47 | stealth- | You can use the faillog command, ironcamel1 |
| 03:42.49 | extor | looks in /var/log |
| 03:43.17 | stealth- | I believe faillog uses the /var/log/faillog file |
| 03:43.18 | ironcamel1 | stealth-: faillog just prints nothing |
| 03:43.32 | stealth- | Then I'm pretty sure that means you have no wrong passwords |
| 03:44.10 | ironcamel1 | stealth-: will faillog show failed attempts via ssh? |
| 03:44.14 | |if3 | and, I don't want to use winscp or some scp gui app, i would rather it be in firefox so that I can preview files, etc. |
| 03:45.17 | stealth- | ironcamel1: Hmmmm.... I'm not sure. Also, if you use faillog, you should be aware of the proper usage listed in the "caveats" part of the man page. |
| 03:45.40 | Tramp | ironcamel1: /var/log/auth.log |
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| 03:46.17 | stealth- | Yeah, there is also /var/log/auth.log, however that's hard to follow. Although, if there is alot of attacks, then it should be fairly easy to notice |
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| 03:46.47 | stealth- | you could "cat /var/log/auth.log | grep FAILED" I suppose though |
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| 03:47.37 | ironcamel1 | thanks Tramp and stealth- ... i think this is what i was looking for. you guys are much better than the #ubuntu channel :) |
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| 03:48.28 | stealth- | np |
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| 03:53.03 | wade | hehe |
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| 04:00.41 | mainstreet | Ok, so, I've tried a bunch of different ways to install GLIB, but I can't seem to get the right package name for it. Little help here please? (repeat) |
| 04:01.28 | ironcamel1 | mainstreet: maybe aptitude search libglib |
| 04:02.40 | mainstreet | hmmm |
| 04:02.54 | mainstreet | none of those are 2.6 or higher |
| 04:03.34 | mainstreet | that could be a problem |
| 04:05.42 | mainstreet | ironcamel1: Any idea why it wouldn't show? |
| 04:05.49 | mainstreet | (And why I can't find it) |
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| 04:06.08 | ironcamel1 | mainstreet: my box only has up to version 2.4 |
| 04:06.11 | mainstreet | hmmm |
| 04:06.22 | ironcamel1 | mainstreet: your version of debian just doesn't have the newest glib yet |
| 04:06.26 | mainstreet | for some reason irssi is refusing to compile without 2.6+ |
| 04:06.30 | \amethyst | ,versions libglib2.0-0 |
| 04:06.31 | judd | libglib2.0-0 -- etch: 2.12.4-2+etch1; etch-security: 2.12.4-2+etch1; lenny-security: 2.16.6-1+lenny1; lenny: 2.16.6-3; lenny-backports: 2.22.4-1~bpo50+1; sid: 2.24.0-1; squeeze: 2.24.0-1 |
| 04:06.50 | \amethyst | mainstreet: if you're compiling you need the -dev package, libglib2.0-dev |
| 04:06.57 | ironcamel1 | mainstreet: you can't just apt-get install irssi? |
| 04:07.08 | mainstreet | ironcamel1: I could, but that's doing my work for my users :P |
| 04:07.21 | mainstreet | And, it unifies the settings for all the users, which I'd rather not do. |
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| 04:08.01 | ironcamel1 | you have users that need irssi, you must have some serious users |
| 04:08.47 | mainstreet | well, we're all geeks that all have accounts on each others' boxes, I'm just the last one to get my own box running... which happened today... |
| 04:09.00 | mainstreet | so I'm still considerably newer at this then they are |
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| 04:15.23 | Crypticfortune | Ok, trying to box up and running in squeeze, but none of my "gnome session programs" set in gnome-session-properties (namely xscreensaver, skype, and pidgin) are getting started automatically. any ideas why/how to fix? |
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| 04:18.30 | White-Horse | i need help please to set up debian lenny 5.04 |
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| 04:18.51 | Crypticfortune | White-Horse: ask your question, hopefully someone can help... |
| 04:19.35 | White-Horse | crypticfortune i dunno where to start ... |
| 04:20.31 | stealth- | mplayer gives me "unsupported video codec" when I try to play a flv file. Any idea how to fix? |
| 04:20.37 | Crypticfortune | !install guide |
| 04:20.37 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0.4) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual . See also <errata> and <installer firmware>. |
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| 04:27.13 | White-Horse | ok i will look at that thanks |
| 04:27.56 | K0JIbKA | White-Horse: are you able to access internet from within Debian at the moment? |
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| 04:50.57 | White-Horse | anyways i will take care of this have a good night/day |
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| 05:12.09 | PARLIAMENT | I want kcallgrind but I don't want qt |
| 05:12.17 | PARLIAMENT | Is it possible! :[ |
| 05:12.46 | PARLIAMENT | it doesnt look like there are any other realtime profiling tools with similar features |
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| 05:13.24 | PARLIAMENT | I mean kcachegrind |
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| 05:15.02 | wols | K-apps are all kde dependent... |
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| 05:16.54 | PARLIAMENT | oh I know, I mean are there any other graphical profiling tools where you can pan around a call graph with the costs of each call, that kind of thing |
| 05:17.01 | PARLIAMENT | a kcachegrind replacement |
| 05:17.07 | PARLIAMENT | it's really old anyway |
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| 05:22.16 | wols | cachegrind is part of valgrind souite |
| 05:22.18 | wols | *suite |
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| 05:38.25 | jhambo | How would I go about copying my os onto a new larger hard disk in such a way that I can boot the new hard drive? |
| 05:38.48 | PARLIAMENT | ow my firefox |
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| 05:42.48 | wols | jhambo: you copy it and reinstall grub on it with grub-install |
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| 05:47.31 | dkay | hello debian! is it possible to allow one user to login via password if all other are only allowed by private key? |
| 05:47.33 | jhambo | wols: can I do like `dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb`? |
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| 05:48.46 | dkay | i set my /etc/ssh/sshd_config to Passwordauthentication to no and UsePam to no and i wouldnt change it if possible |
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| 05:49.01 | dkay | i only need one user who can login via password |
| 05:49.17 | dondelelcaro | dkay: yes, using Match (though not necessarily for all keywords) |
| 05:49.39 | dondelelcaro | dkay: man sshd_config; for details |
| 05:50.23 | dkay | could you point me to a tutorial? i always stuck at man. |
| 05:50.41 | dondelelcaro | dkay: google will find one for you |
| 05:50.45 | wols | jhambo: you can but with disks of different sizes it's not ideal |
| 05:51.14 | dkay | no it didnt :) i googled :) how to keywords in english? cause i am german also! i tried "login via password even with private key" |
| 05:51.16 | dkay | no success |
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| 05:51.28 | dondelelcaro | dkay: I told you; Match is the key word. |
| 05:51.36 | dkay | okay |
| 05:51.39 | dkay | i try, thnks |
| 05:51.56 | dondelelcaro | dkay: match passwordauthentication gets you one as the first result |
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| 05:53.37 | Llolipop | http://www.e-castig.com/index.php?r=jB9f - good site and VERY good PRIZES !!!! Including CS 1.6 / CSS Steam !!!!!!!!!! |
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| 05:54.43 | dkay | dondelelcaro thnks, looks rly simple. but where to add? sshd_config? must be the place |
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| 05:59.06 | dkay | to simple. thanks |
| 05:59.07 | dkay | :P |
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| 06:28.01 | dkay | uhm, someone has any ideas to ssh2 module? |
| 06:28.43 | wols | what is a ssh2 module supposed to be? |
| 06:28.45 | dkay | i installed libss2-1 and libssh2-1-dev and stuck |
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| 06:28.59 | wols | to do what? |
| 06:29.01 | dkay | it makes possible to login via php to an ssh |
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| 06:29.19 | wols | !tell dkay about helponirc |
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| 06:30.13 | dkay | ahm, thanks |
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| 06:30.48 | wols | one needs more info to be able to help you |
| 06:30.54 | wols | we're not mindreaders |
| 06:31.00 | dkay | well, i am going to install http://www.gamepanelx.com/ and its needed to install ssh2 module! |
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| 06:31.27 | wols | !de |
| 06:31.27 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 06:31.28 | dkay | in their tutorial is an link to an module but i wont compile by myself if its able to install via packagemanager |
| 06:32.54 | wols | apt-cache search pecl |
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| 06:33.20 | wols | and what you want is a PECL extension for php that makes php do TLS |
| 06:33.34 | wols | I strongly suggest you use #debiande |
| 06:33.41 | wols | #debian.de |
| 06:34.09 | dkay | ye, it has to be a PECL ssh2 module |
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| 06:35.34 | ribasushi | recommendations for a local RSS reader application? may be standalone may be a plugin to something |
| 06:36.48 | wols | suggests the manpage of apt-cache |
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| 06:43.31 | dkay | wols i installed the libssh2-1 packages! should i have now a ssh2so file somewhere? the tutorial tells me "copy over ssh2.so to php ectensions directory |
| 06:44.10 | dkay | ssh2.so |
| 06:44.10 | dkay | extensions* |
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| 06:45.39 | Pierreb | anyone know of a good spamfilter for a mailserver with 400+ users? |
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| 06:47.21 | wols | dkay: read the tutorial more carefully. no you don't have such a library yet |
| 06:47.47 | wols | Pierreb: there are a ton of different ones. spamassassin, dspam, etc |
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| 07:00.30 | Pierreb | wols: thx checking out dpsam |
| 07:00.37 | Pierreb | *dspam |
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| 07:24.06 | dkay | excuse my totally newb question! my extensions_dir is "./", where actually is this? |
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| 07:26.06 | wols | . is the current directory |
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| 07:32.11 | dkay | uhm, fixed damn, but it cant find my ssh2.so module which is definetaly in this place |
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| 07:33.00 | dkay | dam ispcp, has 6 different php.ini's and all of them tells me ./ |
| 07:33.37 | dkay | so i was going to copy ssh2.so to all 6 places where the php.ini's are stored but gamepanelx tells me cant find ssh2.so module |
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| 07:34.22 | dkay | and ye, i did add on every single php.ini extension=ssh2.so |
| 07:34.46 | dkay | and restart and such |
| 07:34.57 | dkay | %§&"/"&§ |
| 07:34.58 | ravenbird | dkay: I don't know. |
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| 07:41.03 | Jed_84 | hello everyone |
| 07:41.16 | Jed_84 | my corporate network is behind an ISA server |
| 07:41.33 | Jed_84 | did anyone manage to connect a linux box to the internet using an ISA server? |
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| 07:43.15 | liable | i tunneled through one |
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| 07:46.02 | wols | dkay: the current working directory of a process is usually not the same place its config file is stored |
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| 07:46.53 | dkay | wols can we continue in debian.de :)^^ |
| 07:47.36 | dkay | or, php.ini says extensions_dir= ./ |
| 07:47.55 | dkay | so it would be the same place as the php.ini is stored ? |
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| 07:48.18 | wols | read again what I wrote |
| 07:48.36 | wols | for starters: do you have a ssh php extension? |
| 07:48.55 | dkay | i understand this sentence |
| 07:49.13 | dkay | if php.ini tells me ./ it can also be somewhere else then the php.ini is stored |
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| 07:49.43 | wols | I doubt you understand it, tho it's not due to it being in english that you don't |
| 07:49.46 | dkay | how to find out where my extensions_dir is stored? |
| 07:49.56 | wols | do you have an extension in the first place? |
| 07:50.17 | dkay | i have an extension. this ssh2.so :) |
| 07:50.20 | wols | and a good way to find out is dpkg -L php5-mysql for example |
| 07:50.25 | dkay | no other extensions are listed |
| 07:50.47 | dkay | Dynamic Extensions list was empty |
| 07:50.51 | wols | dkay: show me the extension file the "ls -l" output for it |
| 07:51.29 | dkay | there is a /usr/lib/php5/mysql.so |
| 07:51.34 | dkay | should be the same? |
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| 07:52.12 | dserban | my memory sucks. What's the command to show an absolute path when looking at say.. a symlink? |
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| 07:52.24 | wols | dkay: show me the output of "dpkg -l libc6" please |
| 07:52.53 | Jed_84 | liable, how did you tunnel through one? |
| 07:53.01 | wols | Jed_84: man sseh |
| 07:53.03 | wols | *ssh |
| 07:53.05 | liable | openvpn |
| 07:53.18 | liable | this one only had 80 and 443 open |
| 07:53.26 | liable | so i ran openvpn on 443 |
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| 07:53.51 | dkay | something weird wols |
| 07:53.52 | dkay | http://dpaste.com/184061/ |
| 07:53.54 | dkay | :) |
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| 07:55.59 | wols | dkay: so do you have the extension file for your ssh extension? is there a .so file of it anywhere? |
| 07:56.31 | dkay | yes |
| 07:56.42 | dserban | Ahh, for the log bots out there. the command is realpath. # realpath /dev/disk/by-id/symlink will return /dev/sda for example. |
| 07:57.37 | wols | dkay: where did you get your php5 mysql extension then? cause debian doesn't have it in /usr/lib/php5/mysql.so |
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| 07:58.44 | dkay | it is one more folder after php5! its /usr/lib/php5/42298-dls/mysql.so |
| 07:59.15 | dkay | this vps runs with ispcp! ispcp also has 6 different php.ini's |
| 07:59.36 | wols | same thing. that is no debian directory there |
| 07:59.44 | wols | /usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/mysql.so |
| 07:59.54 | wols | this is the place for debian php5 extensions |
| 08:00.13 | dkay | http://dpaste.com/184065/ |
| 08:00.13 | Jed_84 | liable, is there a link or something explaining what you did? |
| 08:00.28 | Jed_84 | I'm having a really hard time connecting through this ISA server |
| 08:00.29 | dkay | ah yes |
| 08:00.31 | dkay | sure |
| 08:00.37 | Jed_84 | liable, did you try ntlmaps? |
| 08:00.57 | wols | dkay: and this is the same place your ssh one needs to go. then you can load it like any other extension your php,ini laods |
| 08:01.39 | liable | Jed_84: what exactly are you having trouble with? cant surf the web at all? |
| 08:01.41 | Jed_84 | It's a proxy that runs on your computer, implements the NTLM protocol and connects to the ISA server. then it opens a port in your computer and you have to configure your apps to user your ip:ntlmaps port as proxy |
| 08:01.44 | dkay | ok, i did copied it to this place few minutes ago but still the same thing! |
| 08:01.58 | Jed_84 | liable, exactly. |
| 08:02.03 | dkay | Error: The SSH2 Module doesn't exist! Please check your installation and try again. |
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| 08:02.13 | wols | dkay: dows your php load it? has your apache been restarted? |
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| 08:02.19 | dkay | yes |
| 08:02.21 | Jed_84 | I tried configuring my apps to use http://username:password@server:port as proxy but had no luck |
| 08:02.25 | dkay | no |
| 08:02.34 | liable | ask an admin why port 80 isnt open |
| 08:02.35 | dkay | i just restarted apache after editing my php.ini |
| 08:02.47 | Jed_84 | it uses port 8080 |
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| 08:03.01 | dkay | i did add extension=ssh2.so to Dynamic Extension |
| 08:03.04 | dkay | then i restarted |
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| 08:03.28 | Jed_84 | the only application that works using this approach is Firefox, which somehow understands how to authenticate and asks for a username and password when first connecting |
| 08:03.35 | Jed_84 | but no other application works |
| 08:03.41 | liable | Jed_84: this is what i wrote about it ages ago.. http://foomagic.org/wiki/index.php/Openvpn_through_an_ISA_server_on_linux |
| 08:03.58 | dkay | eh |
| 08:04.01 | dkay | u got me |
| 08:04.05 | dkay | it works now wols |
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| 08:04.25 | dkay | dont understand, i thought it weres enough to restart after editing my php.ini |
| 08:04.26 | dkay | :P |
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| 08:04.39 | dkay | yeee |
| 08:04.42 | dkay | it works now :P |
| 08:04.52 | dkay | Result: |
| 08:04.52 | dkay | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:04.52 | dkay | Test connection successful! |
| 08:04.57 | Jed_84 | liable: awesome! thank you |
| 08:05.21 | liable | yw |
| 08:05.33 | wols | dkay: you add your extension to /etc/php5/apache2/conf.d/ and nowhere else |
| 08:05.37 | wols | at least under debian |
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| 08:06.23 | dkay | ispcp has 6 different places for php.ini's |
| 08:07.00 | wols | we don't support shitty "panels" that are not in debian |
| 08:07.06 | dkay | http://dpaste.com/184067/ |
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| 08:07.47 | dkay | ok, but i know i need to edit the one from my domain otherwise it would not take effect |
| 08:07.55 | wols | it only has ONE php.ini depending what you use |
| 08:08.02 | dkay | yes |
| 08:08.16 | dkay | i need the last one |
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| 08:17.44 | Rapsodius | I'm making a script and want to filter a filename only |
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| 08:18.38 | Rapsodius | because it ends with a null character |
| 08:18.46 | Rapsodius | I try to get rid of it |
| 08:19.23 | wols | you mean you want to delete it? try midnight commander |
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| 08:19.40 | wols | wonder how you created such a filename in the first place |
| 08:19.55 | Rapsodius | no, I mean in a script, I want to get a string out of its null termination |
| 08:20.11 | Rapsodius | the string in question being a filename with extension |
| 08:20.25 | Rapsodius | like "file.ext\0" |
| 08:20.34 | Rapsodius | and want to get "file.ext" only |
| 08:20.48 | bbd | Rapsodius: try IFS |
| 08:20.58 | hochl | Hello! I have a problem since I changed my to debian testing: glxgears (and other 3d applications) don't show any image output. I get black windows without content. I summarized all my configuration settings in pastebin: http://pastebin.com/bahjPty8 ... can anyone help? where might be the problem? |
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| 08:21.48 | Rapsodius | bbd: IFS? could you explain it? |
| 08:21.59 | bbd | Rapsodius: man bash. search for keyword IFS |
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| 08:22.02 | hochl | I have changed several configuration options in xorg.conf as well, but nothing changes, with/without HW accell, using XAA or EXA ... |
| 08:23.29 | hochl | ah and another one, everythging works, no other gfx errors, just glxgears and 3d applications show black screens. Maybe it's not an Xorg related problem but some missing gfx package or so :-) Sorry for disturbing the channel too much. |
| 08:24.08 | Rapsodius | bbd: that doesn't serve to me, actually I get the filename from a webpage, so I want the string containing the filename to be without the terminated null |
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| 08:25.05 | bbd | Rapsodius: or pipe to: tr -d '\000' |
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| 08:32.08 | cristi8 | hi all. my lenny iceweasel is having a miss-understanding with facebook.. i get redirected to the mobile site (m.facebook.com) |
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| 08:32.52 | petern_ | cristi8, odd, iceweasel works here, but epiphany gets the mobile site |
| 08:32.54 | nsadmin | cristi8 why is it doing that? |
| 08:33.13 | petern_ | it is, presumably, facebook being idiots |
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| 08:33.24 | cristi8 | petern_: my epiphany works, but icewasel gets to mobile |
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| 08:33.56 | petern_ | weird. neither are doing it for me now. maybe there's a cookie set, or something. |
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| 08:34.33 | nsadmin | you can get a module that lets you switch your vendor string |
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| 08:34.59 | hochl | Sorry computer crashed. Any ideas about my X11 problem? :( |
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| 08:35.54 | petern_ | cristi8, there is a link to go to the normal site, though |
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| 08:36.21 | cristi8 | petern_: yes, but from the normal site, sometimes i go back to mobile one.. |
| 08:36.52 | cristi8 | petern_: and i remove all my "facebook" cookies and still go to mobile |
| 08:37.08 | petern_ | :s |
| 08:38.00 | nsadmin | you can get a module that lets you switch your vendor string |
| 08:38.37 | nsadmin | I use User Agent Switcher |
| 08:39.01 | nsadmin | I'm guessing facebook doesn't like "iceweasel" because it doesn't know it |
| 08:39.15 | cristi8 | yea, maybe |
| 08:39.29 | xispirito | i want to mount external media with hal, but i want to add the parameter noexec...possible? |
| 08:39.57 | cristi8 | nsadmin: and where do i get that module? repositories or firefox addon? |
| 08:40.12 | nsadmin | I got an adon |
| 08:40.52 | nsadmin | once I installed and restarted iceweasel, I had it in my tools menu |
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| 08:41.48 | nsadmin | then I made an entry called firefox 3 where I edit the user agent string replacing iceweasel with firefox |
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| 08:47.30 | macsim | hi, I got an issue with dhcp-server on lenny here is my dhcpd.conf http://pastebin.com/nHrRAcPK I got this error : localhost dhcpd: DHCPDISCOVER from 08:00:27:0b:XX:XX via eth0: network 192.168.1/24: no free leases any idea ? thanks |
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| 08:49.52 | ethanol | anyone here familiar with sshd/sftp ? or should I head over to #ssh ? |
| 08:50.34 | cristi8 | this is weird.. i installed that addon that changes useragent, i restarted firefox, but facebook loads the normal site with the "Default user agent" |
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| 08:55.09 | nsadmin | look at the user agent string it sends for default user agent |
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| 08:57.03 | nsadmin | wo! |
| 08:57.10 | nsadmin | my iceweasel crashed |
| 08:57.13 | nsadmin | :) |
| 08:57.42 | DipSwitch | with a boom? |
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| 08:58.14 | cristi8 | nsadmin: "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.19) Gecko/2010033100 Iceweasel/3.0.6 (Debian-3.0.6-3)" |
| 08:58.26 | cristi8 | the default i guess |
| 08:59.05 | nsadmin | yeah, sounded good too... the causer must be featured on drummerworld.com... |
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| 08:59.37 | nsadmin | I copied that to a new one, and made it read |
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| 08:59.58 | nsadmin | "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.19) Gecko/2010033100 Firefox/3.0.6 (Debian-3.0.6-3)" |
| 09:00.39 | cristi8 | hmm.. it was not readable? |
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| 09:01.34 | nsadmin | not sure why it crashed |
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| 09:04.42 | ethanol | would anyone be able to explain to my why filezilla attempts to download symlinks? is sftp-internal of sshd not able to follow symlinks? |
| 09:04.53 | ethanol | s/to my/to me/ |
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| 09:05.46 | xispirito | the flash player create a directory in my home called .macromedia, and inside this have a script .sol...what is this? |
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| 09:06.39 | jelly | xispirito: uh... ask Adobe? |
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| 09:06.46 | xispirito | X) |
| 09:06.58 | xispirito | is mounted with noexec =D |
| 09:07.43 | xispirito | but its suspect... |
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| 09:08.02 | developer | I created a samba server and added a user for it, and connected to the shared samba folder from a windows comp. Im trying to add another user to the samba server but can get it to work |
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| 09:09.49 | man8 | hi |
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| 09:19.21 | ethanol | how do I chown symlinks? basic chown seems to affect their target rather than the symlink |
| 09:20.21 | ethanol | oh durrr, -h switch |
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| 09:22.47 | llutz | ethanol: you cannot |
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| 09:25.44 | jelly | dereferences ethanol |
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| 09:26.11 | nsadmin | symlinks don't have owners |
| 09:26.14 | nsadmin | ? |
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| 09:27.17 | sixyearsofdreams | im trying to do a portforward (http 80) on my motorola wimax (clearwire) and its asking to input start/end WAN port, would that be same as the LAN port, 80-80, i have debian 5.0 installed |
| 09:27.24 | nsadmin | symlinks do have (independent) owners |
| 09:27.28 | jelly | sure they do. |
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| 09:28.02 | simonrvn | jelly: hey there |
| 09:28.19 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: probably. This has nothing to do with debian, but your router |
| 09:28.41 | simonrvn | ethanol: you need to deref, like you saw |
| 09:28.44 | ethanol | yeah |
| 09:28.45 | ethanol | but weird |
| 09:28.55 | ethanol | filezilla kept trying to download my symlinks |
| 09:28.58 | ethanol | I recreated them |
| 09:29.01 | ethanol | now it works fine |
| 09:29.04 | nsadmin | or to -not- deref, if you really want to chown the link |
| 09:29.06 | ethanol | though all modes were the same |
| 09:29.08 | ethanol | owners are the same too |
| 09:29.14 | ethanol | can't figure out what actually changed |
| 09:29.17 | simonrvn | uh oh |
| 09:29.24 | ethanol | other than the symlinks now being relative, not absolute |
| 09:29.31 | ethanol | but that seems irrelevant? :< |
| 09:29.44 | simonrvn | !enter |
| 09:29.49 | ethanol | yeah sorry, my bad. |
| 09:29.53 | simonrvn | doh |
| 09:30.08 | simonrvn | that doh was for me ;) |
| 09:30.22 | nsadmin | gimme yer doh! |
| 09:30.23 | ethanol | I figured as much. But I understand the message you were trying to convey :> |
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| 09:30.51 | simonrvn | .%enter :P |
| 09:31.38 | sixyearsofdreams | jelly, its not even router, its the modem itself, it has portforwarding built in it |
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| 09:31.55 | sixyearsofdreams | jelly, sorry, i didnt know where else to ask, since i have debian, i thought i could do it here, i hope its ok |
| 09:32.00 | nsadmin | port forwarding is a routing function |
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| 09:32.08 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: modem, router, same thing to me |
| 09:32.13 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
| 09:32.31 | nsadmin | so it seems likely your modem is also a router |
| 09:32.36 | sixyearsofdreams | yes |
| 09:33.01 | simonrvn | i'll switch over rb's db |
| 09:33.02 | jelly | (also, it's not really a modem, but whatever) |
| 09:33.06 | sixyearsofdreams | then that would be the case, i did portforward 80-80 on wan port and lan port, on the specific local ip on which my server is running, oddly its not working :( |
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| 09:33.26 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: your ISP may be blocking access to port 80 |
| 09:33.43 | sixyearsofdreams | would it be blocking 22 also? |
| 09:33.51 | nsadmin | could be |
| 09:34.01 | sixyearsofdreams | ill test i guess.. jeezus why would they be blocking that... |
| 09:34.11 | nsadmin | if they can do one, they can do two :) |
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| 09:34.15 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: best to ask them |
| 09:34.15 | icebrain | sixyearsofdreams: what you to upgrade to business lines to host stuff |
| 09:34.30 | simonrvn | done |
| 09:34.32 | icebrain | that would be my guess, anyway |
| 09:35.03 | sixyearsofdreams | well i need to start small lol, with what i have |
| 09:35.11 | simonrvn | until dpkg et al come back, use % for the factoids; the factoids are up to date as of april 7 |
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| 09:36.17 | jelly | %who owns you |
| 09:36.19 | ravenbird | jelly: (who [<mask>]) -- Returns the nicks of all users matching <mask> on this network. If <mask> is not given, '*supybot*' will be used. |
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| 09:36.31 | Breaking_Pitt | Hello I have a little doubt |
| 09:36.33 | sixyearsofdreams | sadly 22 is not working either :( |
| 09:36.35 | sixyearsofdreams | blaah |
| 09:36.51 | Breaking_Pitt | I have created a debian repo in my machine for testing my .deb packages |
| 09:36.52 | icebrain | sixyearsofdreams: you can change ssh port, it doesn't really make any difference |
| 09:36.56 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: well then, try a random high port |
| 09:37.12 | Breaking_Pitt | someone told me that is posible to upload package via apache interface |
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| 09:37.20 | Breaking_Pitt | someone knows something about this? |
| 09:37.45 | nsadmin | well if you upload packages you'd have to rerun the package scan |
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| 09:38.15 | simonrvn | webdav perhaps... but most people use rsync, ssh, or both |
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| 09:39.20 | Breaking_Pitt | everytime I add a packege i have to scan again the directories? |
| 09:39.29 | sixyearsofdreams | ive got a screenshot of the wimax portforwarding, does this look ok ? |
| 09:39.29 | sixyearsofdreams | http://img689.imageshack.us/i/screenshotjt.png/ |
| 09:40.19 | icebrain | sixyearsofdreams: if the ip is right, I don't see any problems |
| 09:40.25 | sixyearsofdreams | yeah me neither. |
| 09:40.27 | sixyearsofdreams | ip is correct |
| 09:40.28 | nsadmin | it's too bad you couldn't connect a machine just outside the router |
| 09:40.35 | sixyearsofdreams | the local ip i tested and made sure it works on the machine |
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| 09:41.10 | sixyearsofdreams | nsadmin just outside the routher? that wimax device is the only thing its connected to the machine, and getting internet |
| 09:41.14 | sixyearsofdreams | router/modem ? :) |
| 09:41.43 | sixyearsofdreams | it wouldnt do any differance if i rebooted the server would it? |
| 09:41.46 | nsadmin | right, I didn't think you could unless it has a port specifically for that |
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| 09:42.02 | nsadmin | would that be a dmz port? |
| 09:42.12 | sixyearsofdreams | which port? |
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| 09:46.10 | sixyearsofdreams | nsadmin, it has a dmz port forward option |
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| 09:46.42 | sixyearsofdreams | and i did enable that also, and turned off the firewall, dmz ip address 192.168.15.2 or does the actualy public ip go there? |
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| 09:47.27 | nsadmin | is 192.168.15.* your internal subnet? |
| 09:47.52 | sixyearsofdreams | yes |
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| 09:48.11 | nsadmin | hmm, then I'm not sure I understand what a dmz is. |
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| 09:48.38 | sixyearsofdreams | ar |
| 09:48.40 | sixyearsofdreams | :( |
| 09:49.12 | sixyearsofdreams | doing the actualy forwarding should of worked.. what a mess lol |
| 09:49.28 | nsadmin | I originally thought it was a connection point between the router and the modem |
| 09:49.38 | jelly | nsadmin: a nat from outside ip to an internal one; router vendors call it "dmz" because one can use the feature to effectively place a service on the public ip |
| 09:50.08 | sixyearsofdreams | would that mess with regular port forwarding if i enabled the DMZ and specifed the ip ? |
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| 09:50.28 | icebrain | sixyearsofdreams: DMZ in this case just means *every* port gets redirected |
| 09:50.29 | jelly | I thought dmz for them meant a default forward of all traffic. |
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| 09:50.46 | nsadmin | so a dmz is a separate nat |
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| 09:51.12 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: you don't want to use the dmz feature, you machine will be completely open to internet. |
| 09:51.44 | sixyearsofdreams | dont care |
| 09:51.46 | sixyearsofdreams | about that really |
| 09:51.47 | icebrain | theoretically, a DMZ'ed machine should also be prevented from connecting to any PC on the internal network |
| 09:51.51 | sixyearsofdreams | noone will have access to it besides me |
| 09:52.05 | sixyearsofdreams | but in the DMZ option when it asks for the ip address, would it be the local ip address ? |
| 09:52.08 | icebrain | sixyearsofdreams: *the internet* will have access! |
| 09:52.10 | icebrain | sixyearsofdreams: yes |
| 09:52.11 | sixyearsofdreams | local ip address of my web server |
| 09:52.13 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
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| 09:55.03 | icebrain | but I don't believe that will fix the problem with 80 and 22 ports, they'll be blocked by the ISP anyway |
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| 09:55.58 | cristi8 | what kind of ISP blocks those standard ports? ..why? |
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| 09:56.19 | nsadmin | my idea was to disconnect from the net and put a machine on the wan port that pretends to be "the rest of the internet", try to establish port forwarding, see if the pretending machine can browse |
| 09:56.34 | sixyearsofdreams | icebrain they said that web server is allowed |
| 09:56.40 | sixyearsofdreams | http://img689.imageshack.us/i/screenshotjt.png/ |
| 09:56.44 | sixyearsofdreams | it says it so in that description |
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| 09:56.47 | sixyearsofdreams | no reason for them to block it |
| 09:56.53 | nsadmin | cristi8 the greedy kind |
| 09:56.55 | sixyearsofdreams | http://img689.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1ud.png/ |
| 09:56.59 | sixyearsofdreams | here is the screen shot of the DMZ |
| 09:57.07 | sixyearsofdreams | .. it still doesnt work with that applied |
| 09:57.15 | icebrain | sixyearsofdreams: they have blocked. It seems the FCC sanctioned them, and they stopped |
| 09:57.32 | sixyearsofdreams | which means they will not unblock them :) ? |
| 09:57.36 | sixyearsofdreams | lol if i call them? |
| 09:57.41 | nsadmin | sanctioned them for what? |
| 09:57.47 | icebrain | nsadmin: for blocking |
| 09:57.47 | sixyearsofdreams | that royaly sucks.. |
| 09:57.51 | icebrain | they stopped blocking |
| 09:58.05 | wols | sixyearsofdreams: to check if it's blocked have you tried to run the daemon on another port? |
| 09:58.47 | nsadmin | sixyearsofdreams, are you listening? |
| 09:59.27 | sixyearsofdreams | port 22 and 80 |
| 09:59.40 | sixyearsofdreams | ive just tried port 22 and that doesnt work either |
| 09:59.52 | sixyearsofdreams | oh wait |
| 09:59.53 | sixyearsofdreams | ... |
| 09:59.56 | sixyearsofdreams | 22 works |
| 10:00.10 | sixyearsofdreams | dmz worked.. 80 doesnt seem to work |
| 10:00.12 | wols | ok, then it's either your ISP or your router which blocks |
| 10:00.20 | sixyearsofdreams | so no web server? |
| 10:00.24 | wols | if dmz worked, most likely the router |
| 10:00.31 | wols | not one on a normal port |
| 10:01.02 | sixyearsofdreams | odd |
| 10:01.03 | wols | how did you check btw? checking frm your LAN inside the NAT is useless |
| 10:01.12 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: do you have an actual http service installed and runnig on your machine? |
| 10:01.18 | sixyearsofdreams | i used the internet ip and connected ssh via nother computer |
| 10:01.36 | wols | ok, via outside host is fine |
| 10:01.37 | sixyearsofdreams | jelly, yes 100% everything is running, i had my box running at friends house |
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| 10:01.47 | sixyearsofdreams | i also tested the local ip, and webserver works |
| 10:02.04 | sixyearsofdreams | ssh 22 works fine via public ip, but 80 isnt |
| 10:02.04 | wols | sixyearsofdreams: use <yourWANip>:8080 or so then |
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| 10:02.18 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
| 10:02.31 | sixyearsofdreams | would the lan also be 8080 ? |
| 10:02.58 | jelly | lan port would be the one your web server is listening on. |
| 10:03.00 | sixyearsofdreams | wanip: 8080-8080 lanip: 8080 |
| 10:03.08 | jelly | sixyearsofdreams: so, 80 by default. |
| 10:03.10 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
| 10:03.13 | sixyearsofdreams | let me test it |
| 10:03.47 | sixyearsofdreams | wait a sec. but dmz is enabled |
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| 10:03.59 | sixyearsofdreams | is it still ok to do actual port forward? |
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| 10:04.16 | nsadmin | yeah, turn that dmz thing off |
| 10:04.25 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
| 10:04.40 | jelly | whee, telnet 96.26.207.113 22 really works ;-) |
| 10:04.55 | wols | I'd use a https server and a self signed cert |
| 10:05.05 | wols | most times, port 443 isn't blocked |
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| 10:06.11 | sixyearsofdreams | yeah |
| 10:06.13 | sixyearsofdreams | works now like that |
| 10:06.16 | sixyearsofdreams | let me try web now |
| 10:06.25 | nsadmin | if the fcc sanctioned them for blocking, you could research the case, find a reference to the public documents, send them a polite letter asking them if they're blocking and include a link to the case |
| 10:06.41 | sixyearsofdreams | how would the address go http://publicip:8080 ? |
| 10:06.47 | nsadmin | but I doubt they're blocking |
| 10:07.13 | nsadmin | if they are, they're stupid because the fcc will hit them harder |
| 10:08.11 | wols | sixyearsofdreams: yes |
| 10:08.11 | nsadmin | is your internal web server listening on 8080 now? |
| 10:08.32 | wols | nsadmin: when the dmz setup didn't block and the port forward does, then it's a shitty router firmware |
| 10:08.58 | sixyearsofdreams | that worked fellaz |
| 10:09.00 | nsadmin | I'm pretty sure he just doesn't have it exactly right yet |
| 10:09.05 | sixyearsofdreams | 8080 |
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| 10:09.23 | sixyearsofdreams | http://96.26.207.113:8080/ |
| 10:09.24 | sixyearsofdreams | :) |
| 10:09.45 | nsadmin | yeah seen that before |
| 10:10.00 | wols | sixyearsofdreams: ssh access works too |
| 10:10.01 | nsadmin | so now, try to put the internal on 80 |
| 10:10.17 | nsadmin | and adjust the forwarding accordingly |
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| 10:10.39 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
| 10:10.50 | sixyearsofdreams | i may just leave it like this |
| 10:10.57 | sixyearsofdreams | as long as it can be accessed outside |
| 10:11.04 | nsadmin | you might as well see if it works |
| 10:11.18 | sixyearsofdreams | ok |
| 10:11.30 | sixyearsofdreams | what do you mean by internal on 80 ? |
| 10:11.35 | sixyearsofdreams | wan on 80 instead of 8080? |
| 10:11.56 | nsadmin | your internal machine that's runnign the web server, adjust the web server so it listens on 80 |
| 10:12.11 | wols | sixyearsofdreams: fyi you have some more ports open and accepting connections |
| 10:12.15 | nsadmin | then try wan on 80 |
| 10:12.31 | sixyearsofdreams | blah, its ok flood it all you want :) |
| 10:12.32 | sixyearsofdreams | haha |
| 10:12.46 | sixyearsofdreams | nsadmin, isnt web server already listening on 80? |
| 10:12.49 | sixyearsofdreams | apache2 |
| 10:13.19 | nsadmin | so when you did the port forward, did you do 8080 outside to 80 inside? |
| 10:13.58 | nsadmin | as far as "is it already listening on 80", check the apache config |
| 10:14.21 | nsadmin | I'm losing track of exactly what you have |
| 10:15.24 | sixyearsofdreams | um |
| 10:15.32 | sixyearsofdreams | http://img689.imageshack.us/i/screenshotjt.png/ |
| 10:15.37 | sixyearsofdreams | this is exactly what it looks like |
| 10:15.44 | sixyearsofdreams | mines the part where wan is 8080 to 8080 now |
| 10:15.47 | sixyearsofdreams | in the modem |
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| 10:16.23 | jelly | and hopefully the dmz ip is nonexistent/empty |
| 10:16.38 | sixyearsofdreams | yeah |
| 10:16.40 | sixyearsofdreams | dmz is turned off |
| 10:16.44 | sixyearsofdreams | ip is not there :) |
| 10:17.25 | nsadmin | so presumably your web server is listening on 8080 |
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| 10:17.34 | sixyearsofdreams | but |
| 10:17.37 | nsadmin | have you checked its config yet? |
| 10:17.51 | sixyearsofdreams | i had my webserver running at my friends with port forwarded 80-80 and it worked just fine |
| 10:17.54 | sixyearsofdreams | i havent checked it yet |
| 10:18.01 | nsadmin | please do so now |
| 10:18.02 | sixyearsofdreams | here is something you guys can enjoy and smile for the help :) |
| 10:18.02 | sixyearsofdreams | http://96.26.207.113:8080/hehe.JPG |
| 10:18.09 | sixyearsofdreams | k sec |
| 10:18.17 | jelly | fears goatse |
| 10:18.22 | sixyearsofdreams | i didnt tuck it in like that, it did it on its own :) heh |
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| 10:21.35 | jelly | a captionless cat! |
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| 10:23.30 | sixyearsofdreams | sorry nsadmin internet on it went down had to reboot modem, loging back into ssh |
| 10:24.07 | jmoreno | hello all, i have a problem with debootstrap and base-passwd. I think than is a bug: http://pastebin.com/p64semKH |
| 10:26.04 | ham5 | ill take some ssh access sixyears |
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| 10:26.21 | sixyearsofdreams | aww ham5 not ready for that yet :) |
| 10:26.26 | sixyearsofdreams | but you may crack it if you wish :) |
| 10:26.27 | sixyearsofdreams | haha |
| 10:26.32 | sixyearsofdreams | i give you my perm |
| 10:26.39 | ham5 | haha:) |
| 10:26.41 | ham5 | thx |
| 10:27.06 | sixyearsofdreams | hehe |
| 10:27.10 | sixyearsofdreams | nsadmin, its listening on 80 |
| 10:27.16 | sixyearsofdreams | nsadmin, /etc/apache2/ports.conf |
| 10:27.28 | sixyearsofdreams | Listen 80 |
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| 10:27.50 | ham5 | preftpd on 21 and apache on 8080 too huh |
| 10:28.02 | sixyearsofdreams | :) |
| 10:28.03 | nsadmin | then are you portforwarding from 8080 outside to 80 inside? |
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| 10:28.18 | sixyearsofdreams | nsadmin yes, in the router/modem |
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| 10:28.50 | nsadmin | that would explain it... so all you have to do is adjust that forwarding so it forwards port 80 outside to 80 inside |
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| 10:29.55 | sixyearsofdreams | nsadmin, to make it look like this, http://img689.imageshack.us/i/screenshotjt.png/ ? |
| 10:30.24 | nsadmin | I'm not using that site, it threw me like 40 cookies and I batted off each one |
| 10:30.48 | ham5 | imageshack ftw |
| 10:30.50 | ham5 | ;) |
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| 10:35.51 | sixyearsofdreams | nsadmin, ill play around with it a little more tomorrow, ill leave it the way it is |
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| 10:35.58 | sixyearsofdreams | i really appreciate your guyses help :) |
| 10:36.00 | sixyearsofdreams | debian ftw |
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| 10:36.21 | ham5 | dont forget my access |
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| 10:37.05 | sixyearsofdreams | ill be around :) |
| 10:37.20 | sixyearsofdreams | how could i forget ham :) |
| 10:37.25 | sixyearsofdreams | not just ham but ham5 |
| 10:37.26 | sixyearsofdreams | heh |
| 10:37.48 | ham5 | :) |
| 10:39.40 | nsadmin | not sure what the deal is, but that's usually the case because we never see what you're actually doing |
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| 11:19.16 | jack_ | is there an release date (or period) for squeeze? |
| 11:19.16 | jeff_hann | Zambezi, chgrp |
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| 11:22.05 | wols | Zambezi: you can only chmod files, not groups... |
| 11:22.26 | wols | jack_: /msg dpkg wwsr |
| 11:23.19 | developer | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:23.42 | wols | developer: I told you before you need to describe your problem more clearly |
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| 11:23.57 | wols | developer: "doesn't work" is no error description. /msg dpkg doesn't work |
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| 11:45.07 | jelly | developer: at the very least, describe your samba setup, where you keep your users, how you try to add a new one, and how does it fail to work. Provide samba log files for failing client IPs if you can. Use a pastebin site. |
| 11:45.35 | jelly | there's also a specialized channel for samba, I believe |
| 11:45.38 | jelly | !samba |
| 11:45.38 | dpkg | Samba is a Unix implementation of Windows file/print sharing (the SMB/CIFS protocol). Documentation resources: http://samba.org/samba/docs/ , http://wiki.samba.org/ . Backported Samba 3.4.7 packages for Lenny are available, ask me about <bpo>. http://samba.org/samba/docs/FAQ/ http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Category:Category_FAQ http://samba.org/ #samba on irc.freenode.net. See also <swat>. |
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| 11:46.33 | wols | jelly: forget it. he always asks the same question (cut+paste) and then ignores everything |
| 11:47.19 | jelly | wols: I've seen a similar query yesterday I think, still I feel obliged to go thru the motions |
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| 11:48.09 | jelly | Developers, developers, developers! |
| 11:48.35 | DASPRiD | all hide |
| 11:49.15 | wols | jelly: there wasn't a similar query. it was the exact same one down to the last char |
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| 11:49.55 | jelly | well, it seems ", any idea?" was added ;-) |
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| 11:53.39 | chellomere | hello, I have 4 instances of a program running (using as much cpu as available), and a 4 core cpu (i5 720), and I want each program to use a core each (they use as much cpu as is made available to them). however, each process uses roughly 50% (within 1-2% units) of a core, thus only half my processor is used. anyone know what this might be caused by? |
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| 11:54.26 | wols | your processes just don't need the full speed of a core? |
| 11:54.51 | edgy | chellomere: i thought 720 is i7 not i5 |
| 11:55.01 | wols | you need to debug your program, not us. unless you actually do something (like cgroups), linux doesn't limit your CPU usage |
| 11:55.19 | chellomere | wols, the processes do not sleep |
| 11:55.30 | wols | chellomere: you sure it's not Hyperthreading which does this? by faking another core? |
| 11:55.32 | chellomere | the programs did use 100% of each core yesterday |
| 11:55.45 | chellomere | ah sorry, i5 750 |
| 11:55.52 | chellomere | and no, there's no hyperthreading |
| 11:56.06 | wols | still it's your program, nothing else |
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| 11:56.59 | jelly | chellomere: which program? care to pastebin your /proc/cpuinfo (just to verify that HT part)? Which debian release and uname -r? |
| 11:57.02 | bzed | chellomere: the scheduler in the kernel handles these things very well, so you should not need to bother |
| 11:57.49 | chellomere | jelly, it's my own program, used for research. I've extended an existing framework used for this area. |
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| 11:58.53 | chellomere | wols, hmm. the only thing I could think of is i/o wait caused by the terminal output, but that shouldn't be that significant. and why would the cpu usage be so near 50%? |
| 11:58.56 | wols | chellomere: what has changed since yesterday? |
| 11:59.05 | chellomere | jelly, pastebin coming up |
| 11:59.09 | wols | the 50% part suggest HT imho |
| 12:00.51 | chellomere | the cpu is ~50% idle tho with 4 processes using 50% cpu (in top's notation) |
| 12:01.22 | chellomere | jelly, http://pastebin.ca/1861700 |
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| 12:02.26 | chellomere | wols, a few details have changed, nothing that should affect this... |
| 12:02.39 | wols | evidently it did for some reason or other |
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| 12:07.39 | rhodan | package quassel-core left obsolete init.d script behind, insserv: warning: script 'S10vzquota' missing LSB tags and overrides, insserv: warning: script 'vzquota' missing â |
| 12:07.39 | rhodan | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:07.57 | rhodan | How do I fix that? I already fixed the installed-but-not-purged-type of problem. |
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| 12:09.29 | jelly | chellomere: right, ht seems disabled, else there would be 8 entries in there |
| 12:09.37 | simonrvn | file a bug on it |
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| 12:10.51 | lilib__ | hi |
| 12:11.02 | lilib__ | i am looking for help |
| 12:11.12 | lilib__ | i accidently deleted one file from jabberd package |
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| 12:11.24 | lilib__ | etc/jabber/function or soo |
| 12:11.33 | lilib__ | i am not able to install it again |
| 12:11.38 | petern_ | reinstall it? |
| 12:11.39 | abrotman | !tell lilib__ about confmiss |
| 12:11.46 | lilib__ | but how |
| 12:11.54 | wols | abrotman: damn you for being faster |
| 12:12.03 | abrotman | wols: germans are slow! |
| 12:12.04 | lilib__ | installer says cannot do an postproccess |
| 12:12.07 | abrotman | lilib__: see what the bot told you |
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| 12:12.34 | lilib__ | abrotman , tank you |
| 12:12.49 | lilib__ | if i use apt-get -d install jabber |
| 12:12.56 | lilib__ | where jabber package is stored in? |
| 12:13.01 | developer | ok |
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| 12:13.16 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:13.20 | rhodan | I fixed the quassel problem by reinstalling it. |
| 12:13.30 | developer | I'll be back wothout a copy paste |
| 12:13.33 | developer | see you |
| 12:13.33 | rhodan | Now I am left with the script my VServer provider installed. |
| 12:13.34 | rhodan | insserv: warning: script 'S10vzquota' missing LSB tags and overrides, insserv: warning: script 'vzquota' missing LSB tags and overrides, |
| 12:13.44 | rhodan | This is no official script. |
| 12:13.51 | rhodan | How do I add LSB tags myself? |
| 12:14.06 | lilib__ | wols thank you |
| 12:14.22 | jelly | rhodan: inspect other init script and liberally apply copy/pasta methods? |
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| 12:17.28 | chellomere | wols, behaviour changed slightly now: two of the processes share have each own core (core 1 & 2), two share one core (core 3), on core 0 the rest of the system processes run, but it's mostly idle. I wrote a small C program that just executes an infinite loop. when I run it, it gets put on core 2, thus getting 50% of that core (and the other program on that core of course also gets 50% instead of 100%). the infinite loop program could |
| 12:17.29 | chellomere | 've been put on core 0 which was mostly idle, but it wasn't. |
| 12:17.35 | simonrvn | copy/pasta? :) |
| 12:17.56 | chellomere | uh, s/processes share/processes/ |
| 12:18.17 | wols | then set the affinity manually? |
| 12:18.28 | wols | or you maybe fudged with affinity somewhere |
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| 12:19.03 | lilib__ | mr. wols sorry, could i send you 6 lines of install errors in /query? |
| 12:19.07 | wols | if it worked yesterday, and not today, something changed and if the kernel is the same the kernel obviosuly can run 4 tasks at 10=% |
| 12:19.10 | wols | 100% |
| 12:19.20 | jelly | or his kernel is buggy. But to be safe he'll probably want to force affinity manually anyway |
| 12:19.26 | lilib__ | force resintall not helped |
| 12:19.28 | wols | lilib__: mr. lilib__ you can learn about pastebins. /msg dpkg pastebin |
| 12:19.34 | chellomere | wols, oh, you can specify which core you want a program run on? |
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| 12:20.22 | wols | chellomere: http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+affinity |
| 12:20.29 | jelly | chellomere: yes. You can use schedtool or muck with /proc/pid/cpuset manually |
| 12:20.32 | lilib__ | i am not sure if i can pastebin now, i am typing on nurces version of finch over remote router :) |
| 12:20.52 | wols | !tell lilib__ about pastebinit |
| 12:20.55 | abrotman | lilib__: uhm .. use a web browser .. http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 12:21.03 | abrotman | i don't see how finch has anything to do with instaling a package |
| 12:21.13 | chellomere | wols, yeah, was going through that, second hit was very informative :) |
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| 12:21.36 | lilib__ | abrotman, i guessed pastebin is accessable over web interface only |
| 12:21.53 | wols | for starters, there is lynx. 2nd there is pastebinit |
| 12:22.19 | nsadmin | with pastebinit being the easier |
| 12:22.48 | jelly | chellomere: uname -r? |
| 12:22.56 | nsadmin | (cat foo ; echo "separator" ; cat bar) | pastebinit |
| 12:22.59 | chellomere | jelly, it may very well be the kernel, I've been lazy with upgrades lately and I'm on linux-image-2.6.32-trunk-amd64 2.6.32-5 |
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| 12:23.31 | jelly | .kernels |
| 12:23.32 | jelly | ,kernels |
| 12:23.35 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.33-2-686 (2.6.33-1~experimental.4); sid: 2.6.32-4-686 (2.6.32-11); squeeze: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.3-686 (2.6.32-9~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-21lenny4); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
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| 12:24.13 | chellomere | but I'll try schedtool, if that doesn't do it I'll try a newer kernel |
| 12:24.26 | chellomere | thank you wols and jelly :) |
| 12:24.43 | jelly | chellomere: I don't remember any affinity messups, but get yourself that 2.6.32-4- anyway; -trunk- is old |
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| 12:26.08 | jelly | !test |
| 12:26.08 | dpkg | Test failed. |
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| 12:28.01 | mauro_ | good morning, can i have help to install a printer on a debian server? |
| 12:28.32 | chellomere | jelly & wols, schedtool worked wonders! |
| 12:30.15 | jelly | chellomere: if it's your own app, you can make it choose a cpu by itself. Leaving it to kernel is _supposed_ to work, but as you just saw, it can often be flawed |
| 12:31.22 | wols | macsim: ask a specific question |
| 12:31.51 | wols | macsim: sorry. was a drive by ircer |
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| 12:33.16 | chellomere | jelly, I'm running 4 tests at the same time to use my cpu optimally, and just these 4 tests, I chose to do it like that as I had 4 cores. if I had had more tests I could've scripted it in some way. |
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| 12:34.44 | lilib__ | aptitude helped me out, thank you guys for your help and your patience |
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| 12:40.02 | digii | hi, anyone know where i can find howto configure apache2 to use wsgi? |
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| 12:42.43 | bohne | hi, in my interfaces file i added a "up route add.." now i'm getting: SIOCADDRT: File exists |
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| 12:44.21 | bohne | http://pastebin.com/4TzVYsX3 |
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| 12:47.35 | kurkale6ka | Hi, how can I disable an ethernet card during new installation? |
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| 12:48.17 | Titan8990 | unplug it? |
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| 12:48.41 | Titan8990 | you could go to the console and remove the module or bring the interface down, I don't see mush of a point though |
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| 12:49.03 | kurkale6ka | it is embedded |
| 12:49.09 | simonrvn | bohne: use pre and post-up commands with ip (iproute package) |
| 12:49.18 | digii | cant find a singel good howto explaining how to run wsgi on apache, they just write about som other stupid stuff, that i dont want, just want a simple install, to try my own stuff, no security shit that every howto talkes about... |
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| 12:49.47 | simonrvn | bohne: can i /msg you? |
| 12:49.58 | simonrvn | s,can,may, |
| 12:49.59 | bohne | simonrvn: yes sure |
| 12:50.53 | Titan8990 | digii: it requires more than enabling the module? |
| 12:51.04 | kurkale6ka | Titan8990: debian doesn't recognize my pci eth card and I wonder if it isn't because of the embedded one. Does it make sense? |
| 12:51.21 | digii | Titan8990: seems so, but cant find what |
| 12:51.22 | sdousley|work | does anyone know how I can stop a warning coming up stating that apt wants to install untrusted packages? |
| 12:52.04 | simonrvn | add the repo's gpg signing key |
| 12:52.21 | Titan8990 | kurkale6ka: is this debian or emdebian? |
| 12:52.31 | Titan8990 | digii: it really doesn't look like it... |
| 12:52.38 | kurkale6ka | Titan8990: debian |
| 12:52.48 | mguy | sdousley|work: Will -yes work? |
| 12:52.49 | digii | Titan8990: where are u reading? |
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| 12:53.03 | sdousley|work | mguy: I already tried the -y option with no luck :( |
| 12:53.08 | mguy | or --force-yes |
| 12:53.35 | mguy | --allow-unauthenticated even |
| 12:53.35 | kurkale6ka | Titan8990: right now I have opensuse which succeded in configuring the network using dhcp but the deb installer is unable to do it |
| 12:53.40 | Titan8990 | digii: the upstream documentiation: http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/QuickInstallationGuide |
| 12:54.10 | Titan8990 | kurkale6ka: you may need the kmuto installer if the hardware is newer |
| 12:54.18 | Titan8990 | !tell kurkale6ka about kmuto |
| 12:54.20 | digii | ok, thx Titan8990 i'll read that one |
| 12:54.49 | sdousley|work | that looks more promising mguy :D |
| 12:54.50 | Titan8990 | digii: its not something you should follow. It just shows that they enable the module after its installed and that is it |
| 12:55.20 | Titan8990 | digii: you may need to do more to get a framework to go... but apache is ready at that point from what I see |
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| 12:56.27 | digii | naah, think u need to configure apache also, but shouldnt the module be enabled right after apt-get instal? |
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| 12:59.31 | sdousley|work | mguy: closer thatn I'd managed, was --alow-untrusted i needed :) Thanks |
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| 13:00.36 | kurkale6ka | Titan8990: My nic is a Realtek on RTL8139 I think, what is this kmuto? |
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| 13:04.22 | abrotman | kurkale6ka: do you have the actual pciid ? |
| 13:04.28 | Argafal | i was wondering about the following: If i remove a repository from soures.list how can i find out which software is still installed from that repository and/or remove software from that repository/substitute it by another version from own of the respositories remaining in sources.list? i thought that deborphan should do that, but i can't seem to find the option. |
| 13:04.39 | abrotman | !tell Argafal about which repo |
| 13:05.26 | Argafal | abrotman: great, thank you. |
| 13:05.33 | kurkale6ka | abrotman: not here, but I get it, kmuto seems to test against my hardware, I will check at home |
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| 13:16.43 | zooz | is anyone using vyatta? |
| 13:18.43 | abrotman | zooz: isn't that a distro ? |
| 13:19.11 | abrotman | zooz: try ##vyatta |
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| 13:22.27 | kurkale6ka | What should I install at home: debian stable, testing or unstable? |
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| 13:26.02 | iceroot | kurkale6ka: depending on what you want of course |
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| 13:26.39 | kurkale6ka | iceroot: dunno, never used debian before |
| 13:26.40 | wols | kurkale6ka: stable, always |
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| 13:27.04 | iceroot | kurkale6ka: if you want a stable system with old software, use stable |
| 13:27.44 | abrotman | it's not old .. it's stable |
| 13:27.53 | abrotman | damn trolls |
| 13:27.53 | ham5 | mix it up |
| 13:27.57 | ham5 | mostly testing tho |
| 13:27.57 | kurkale6ka | so testing for newer software? how stable is that |
| 13:28.03 | iceroot | abrotman: that is not trolling |
| 13:28.06 | abrotman | kurkale6ka: if you haven't used Debian before, use lenny/stable |
| 13:28.09 | abrotman | iceroot: it is |
| 13:28.31 | iceroot | abrotman: so the software in stable is new? |
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| 13:28.46 | abrotman | kurkale6ka: testing has varying degrees of stability .. some days it's stable, some days very broken .. Until you're familiar with Debian, please use stable |
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| 13:29.07 | abrotman | iceroot: Did you ask him what shiny new shit he needs? |
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| 13:29.34 | iceroot | abrotman: you know what i mean |
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| 13:30.48 | abrotman | iceroot: no, i don't .. i use stable on my desktop at work .. are you telling me i'm stupid? |
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| 13:30.49 | iceroot | abrotman: e.g. iceweasel 3.0 is old for me |
| 13:31.08 | iceroot | abrotman: openoffice 2.4 is old for me too |
| 13:31.10 | Titan8990 | iceroot: something doesn't work about it? |
| 13:31.29 | Titan8990 | iceroot: oo.org does need 3.x upgrade. thats what backports are for |
| 13:31.31 | abrotman | iceroot: why is it too old? |
| 13:31.49 | iceroot | Titan8990: i just said stable is old, of course you can use backports |
| 13:32.09 | abrotman | so it works fine .. you're just being silly |
| 13:32.12 | iceroot | and i just want to make clear that this is not trolling to say that iceweasel 3.0 is old |
| 13:32.24 | Titan8990 | iceroot: I am just wondering what is wrong with iceweasel 3.0... I mostly use chrome but 3.0 works fine when I need it |
| 13:32.44 | siri_ | hi all.. i want to connect user interface with any shell script. Can anybody tell me how to do that? |
| 13:32.48 | abrotman | kurkale6ka: please use stable |
| 13:32.52 | iceroot | Titan8990: 3.0 is slow on my eeepc instead of 3.5 which is running faster (not much but some bit faster) |
| 13:33.14 | abrotman | use a better browser |
| 13:33.15 | abrotman | ? |
| 13:33.45 | iceroot | abrotman: what about accepting that i think that it is old? if you dont think so, its ok but please dont tell me that i have to think that it is new |
| 13:33.48 | Titan8990 | siri_: try explaining that in better detail of what your trying to do |
| 13:34.02 | abrotman | though, I use FF on my HP Mini (SSD HDD), and it works fine ..loads in seconds |
| 13:34.26 | iceroot | abrotman: eeepc 701 630mhz, 512mb ram |
| 13:34.28 | abrotman | iceroot: though i'd imagine the specs on my mini are better than your eeepc ? |
| 13:34.36 | Titan8990 | iceroot: the point is that "old" is subjective and many people talk as though applications stop working once they hit a certain age |
| 13:34.54 | siri_ | Titan8990: i want to use shell script as backgroud program in front i want to use an interface through which i take some input strings. |
| 13:35.18 | aguitel | iceroot, i have same netbook with lxde (lubuntu) |
| 13:35.33 | iceroot | aguitel: i am running gnome on it |
| 13:35.42 | Titan8990 | siri_: for what purpose? what is the overall goal? |
| 13:35.51 | aguitel | iceroot, slow with gnome |
| 13:36.50 | aguitel | iceroot, try lxde with flash |
| 13:37.18 | iceroot | flash? ssd or the bad adobe-thing? :) |
| 13:37.56 | aguitel | iceroot, pendrive i say |
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| 13:38.17 | siri_ | Titan8990: i am trying to do a project on 'server based installation'. i want to take the names of systems in an user interface. with that names i will get connected to those systems in lan and then install required software in that system. I just want to install software remotely. |
| 13:38.37 | iceroot | aguitel: i will stay with gnome, i like it and know how to handle it but lxde is looking good too |
| 13:38.48 | iceroot | aguitel: was watching some pictures on google |
| 13:38.51 | aguitel | iceroot, no problem |
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| 13:44.22 | siri_ | Titan8990: i want to access a client and then install application software from server through an Graphical user interface. |
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| 13:46.51 | siri_ | Titan8990: Will you tell me how to do that? |
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| 13:48.40 | dp_ | is there an apt-* command that will show me what package provides file X? |
| 13:48.55 | lindi- | dp_: apt-file |
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| 13:49.22 | dp_ | lindi-: thanks |
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| 13:49.53 | harpal | how to install libmysqlclient15 off? |
| 13:50.32 | wols | harpal: try again |
| 13:50.45 | harpal | I tried aptitude install libmysqlclient15off but its not installing |
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| 13:51.21 | Titan8990 | siri_: so you want to install software based on a machines hostname? Am I understanding that correctly? |
| 13:51.25 | wols | "libmysqlclient15off" isn't a debian package I think |
| 13:51.26 | harpal | wols, libmysqlclient15off (>= 5.0.27-1) required |
| 13:51.29 | jimcooncat | siri_: ssh -X remotecomputer gksudo synaptic |
| 13:51.41 | wols | harpal: which package requires it and from where is it? |
| 13:51.45 | Titan8990 | harpal: what are you trying to install, and where di you get it/ |
| 13:51.47 | harpal | wols, but in aptitude search libmysqlclient it shows me |
| 13:51.48 | wols | ,versions libmysqlclient15off |
| 13:51.50 | judd | libmysqlclient15off -- etch: 5.0.32-7etch8; etch-security: 5.0.32-7etch12; etch-backports: 5.0.51a-24+lenny2~bpo40+1; lenny: 5.0.51a-24+lenny2+spu1; lenny-security: 5.0.51a-24+lenny3 |
| 13:52.04 | simonrvn | dpkg: test |
| 13:52.04 | dpkg | Test failed. |
| 13:52.28 | wols | !tell harpal about bat |
| 13:52.30 | Titan8990 | ,info libmysqlclient15off |
| 13:52.31 | judd | libmysqlclient15off (libs, optional): MySQL database client library. Version: 5.0.51a-24+lenny2+spu1; Size: 1815.6k; Installed: 4028k; Homepage: http://dev.mysql.com/ |
| 13:53.13 | harpal | wols, I am installing plesk in that libpam-plesk package required that |
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| 13:53.37 | harpal | Titan8990, I am right now on debian 6.0 |
| 13:53.43 | wols | harpal: and the full output of your aptitude install command is what? |
| 13:53.56 | wols | harpal: there is no debian 6.0 yet, however there is squeeze |
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| 13:54.13 | harpal | wols, ya squeeze |
| 13:54.20 | siri_ | Titan8990: yes. just i want to connect GUI to shell script like jsp for Graphical user interfaces. |
| 13:54.23 | harpal | wols, I am installing it using dpkg |
| 13:54.39 | wols | use apt, not dpkg |
| 13:56.03 | harpal | wols, how to install that with apt? |
| 13:56.16 | wols | like any other package. apt-get install <packagename> |
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| 13:56.33 | wols | ah, it's only in lenny. chances are it won't work in squeeze possibly |
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| 13:56.47 | g00se | Is pastebinit now broken? |
| 13:56.48 | harpal | ohh, so I need to add repository and do it |
| 13:56.58 | wols | well, I guess you better ask plesk how to install it (plesk) in squeeze |
| 13:57.00 | wols | !plesk |
| 13:57.00 | dpkg | Parallels Plesk Panel (formerly Plesk) is proprietary web hosting control panel. Not supported in #debian, ask me about <free whcp> for alternatives. http://www.parallels.com/support/plesk/ http://forum.parallels.com/ ##plesk on irc.freenode.net. |
| 13:57.22 | jelly | g00se: it's broken for the default pastebin, use eg. pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 13:57.24 | harpal | wols, Thanks a lot |
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| 13:57.34 | fas3r | hello |
| 13:57.41 | g00se | jelly: Ta. I'll try it |
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| 14:00.13 | siri_ | Titan8990: i want to design user interface on my own. so i want to write code accordingly. i dont know what to use in between shell script and an GUI. whether i have to use any language like python for that purpose? |
| 14:00.14 | fas3r | i use postfix like a smtp relay with sasl and tls . i have no problem for the auuthentification ( sasl or tls). i can send mail but 1 mail on 4 arrive at destination |
| 14:00.54 | fas3r | in mail.log i got a 250 msg ( the mail go out wih no problem)... some idea ? |
| 14:01.46 | wols | if postfix sends it and sends it to the correct place, it's out of its hands |
| 14:01.58 | wols | what else can it do than send and hope that the receiver accepts it |
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| 14:02.05 | wols | how do you know the receiver drops it? |
| 14:02.46 | spacepluk | hi, I promise I've tried to do it myself... But I'm not able to create a hardlink... Any help? |
| 14:02.48 | wols | siri_: usually, python, perl or another high level script language is prefered |
| 14:03.04 | wols | spacepluk: man ln? simply make a link with it |
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| 14:03.15 | fas3r | wols, well i don't know if he drop it. i have try to send mail on my hotmail and i don't see it in spam folder or in the mailbox ... |
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| 14:03.32 | dabaR | How can I tell when my OS was installed? |
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| 14:03.34 | wols | fas3r: maybe you are on a RBL |
| 14:03.42 | fas3r | RBL ? |
| 14:03.56 | wols | !RBL |
| 14:03.57 | dpkg | from memory, rbl is Mail Abuse Prevention System (MAPS)'s Realtime Blackhole List, a system to identify likely origins of spam. See http://mail-abuse.org/rbl/, or a general term for dozens of systems that work on the same basic principle of DNS lookups |
| 14:04.39 | spacepluk | wols: It says: operation not permitted |
| 14:04.41 | jelly | dabaR: in general, you can't. dumpe2fs -h /dev/your-root-partition-device will tell you when that filesystem was created. |
| 14:04.56 | dabaR | jelly: good ebnough, thanks. |
| 14:04.58 | wols | spacepluk: are you root? |
| 14:05.13 | wols | what is your ln line? |
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| 14:05.27 | wols | jelly: ctime of /bin ? |
| 14:05.46 | spacepluk | yes, it's a directory if that matters |
| 14:07.34 | fas3r | wols, but it's work on some domain .. i mean i can send mail on some domains.. ( my isp, gmail, ...) i need to modify something on postfix or i have no solution ? |
| 14:07.36 | siri_ | wols: in debian i am trying to use glade for designing Graphical user interface. Can i use python language even for that? will you give me a brief description on how to take input from that GUI to program. or can i find that description anywhere? |
| 14:08.20 | fas3r | wols, sorry for asking i'm little lost since yesterday ... : / |
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| 14:09.22 | wols | siri_: there are tons of tutorials for gtk and glade and python out there. a tutorial in GUI programming is NOT the focus of #debian |
| 14:09.41 | wols | but yes you can use glade with python and pygtk |
| 14:10.17 | wols | fas3r: depends what the problem is. on what IP is your mailserver? |
| 14:11.03 | siri_ | wols: ok. thank you. |
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| 14:12.38 | g00se | jelly: Actually i got an unknown website error with your suggestion. Any other debian urls? |
| 14:13.05 | jelly | g00se: man pastebinit |
| 14:13.06 | dabaR | !file dumpe2fs |
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| 14:13.19 | jelly | ,versions pastebinit |
| 14:13.21 | judd | pastebinit -- lenny: 0.10-2; sid: 0.11.2-1; squeeze: 0.11.2-1 |
| 14:13.27 | jelly | dabaR: it's in e2fsprogs and you already have it |
| 14:13.32 | g00se | jelly: None mentioned therein (Debian ones) |
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| 14:13.40 | dabaR | jelly: is it only accessible by root? |
| 14:13.44 | jelly | g00se: who cares? find one that works |
| 14:13.48 | wols | fas3r: you're probably in a dialup ip range |
| 14:13.50 | dabaR | yes it is |
| 14:14.01 | jelly | dabaR: you need to be root to do it anyway |
| 14:14.08 | fas3r | it's a external dedicated server |
| 14:14.09 | g00se | jelly: Want to fly the flag ;-) |
| 14:14.20 | wols | fas3r: which means you need a smarthost like gmail, your ISP's mailserver or such to send mail which is accepted anywhere |
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| 14:14.55 | dabaR | jelly: Thanks very much. |
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| 14:15.04 | wols | check the various RBLs and dialup RBLs if you are on them. either you can convince those RBLs to unlist you or you are SOL |
| 14:15.14 | wols | the hosts probably simply don't accept mail from you/your IP range |
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| 14:15.26 | spacepluk | wols: ln -d orig dest |
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| 14:16.04 | jelly | fas3r: microsoft has tools and instructions for mail admins to make delivery to hotmail more reliable |
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| 14:16.21 | wols | spacepluk: man ln |
| 14:16.57 | fas3r | ok thanks wols and jelly i can move on with that i guess i will find an issue and thanks ^ |
| 14:16.59 | fas3r | ^^ |
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| 14:18.42 | g00se | jelly: Took you advice: http://paste.ubuntu.com works ;) |
| 14:18.49 | jelly | ubuntu rules! |
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| 14:21.26 | matu_ | hi, i lost my gossip jabber password, can anyone help me to recover it please ? |
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| 14:21.53 | porton | I need to send a email to about 1000 addresses. The SMTP server which I use has 150/day limit. How I can send these email not having a fixed IP on my PC? Maybe to use my homepage's server? |
| 14:22.35 | wols | if your homepage's server accepts to act as a smtp relay for you yes |
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| 14:23.01 | porton | wols: No my homepage's server has no SMTP relay. |
| 14:23.37 | porton | I just think to write a short mailer program and install it on my server. But maybe indeed I can do from my PC? |
| 14:24.24 | anisfarhana | porton: how about php-mailer ? |
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| 14:24.43 | jelly | porton: does your ISP or the ISP where you host your server have a smtp server with a better/no limit? |
| 14:24.57 | porton | anisfarhana: Will it work on a PC without fixed IP? |
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| 14:25.19 | porton | jelly: AFAIK both no |
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| 14:25.50 | anisfarhana | porton: i have see somebody here using php-mailer for spam , even from his pc (running on dynamic IP) |
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| 14:26.02 | jelly | porton: however, sending mail from a dynamically assigned ip will be unreliable at best |
| 14:26.12 | anisfarhana | agreed with jelly |
| 14:26.23 | slidesinger | Trying to figure out how to clear dns cache on lenny. All the articles I seem to be able to find relate to doing this with bluecoat proxy. Does someone know how to do this? |
| 14:26.36 | jelly | slidesinger: what dns cache? |
| 14:26.39 | spacepluk | wols: ok, I can't be done http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=136621 |
| 14:27.09 | slidesinger | Both client and dns server, both of which are lenny boxes. |
| 14:27.30 | jelly | slidesinger: which software, I mean? |
| 14:28.03 | slidesinger | Using iceweasel on lenny, and bind 9 on lenny. |
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| 14:28.12 | peta_ | hello everybody |
| 14:28.18 | edju | having trouble w/ dns - can't set it, as /etc/resolv.conf keeps reverting to the router's ip. i've worked w/ dhclient.conf and wicd, but no go. i see that /etc/resolvconf/update-libc.d has reference to /usr/lib/avahi/avahi-daemon-check-dns.sh. is that related to the resolv.conf reset? |
| 14:28.37 | jack-_- | rndc flushname www.google.com :) |
| 14:28.43 | Titan8990 | slidesinger: restarting the named service should do it |
| 14:28.53 | jelly | right. |
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| 14:29.06 | slidesinger | Thanks |
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| 14:29.12 | Titan8990 | edju: you the same one from the debian-user list? |
| 14:29.16 | peta_ | I built python2.6.5 from the sources and installed it (make install). Now what is the best way to "uninstall" it? Just removing the installed files would be not I think ... |
| 14:29.41 | Titan8990 | peta_: make uninstall? |
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| 14:29.55 | jelly | dpkg, tell edju about override dns |
| 14:30.02 | peta_ | yields "no uninstall script defined" ...or somethin like that |
| 14:30.06 | hochl | Hi! I have a problem with DRI. If I use 'Option "NoDRI" "true"' then glxgears works, but is slow. If I disable this option glxgeras only shows a black screen. Ideas? |
| 14:30.19 | jelly | oh, you "worked with dhclient.conf" |
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| 14:30.36 | wols | hochl: anything in your logs about DRI/DRM? maybe change kernels? |
| 14:30.44 | Titan8990 | jelly: there is a current debian-user thread on the same topic. user modified dhclient.conf, changes being overwritten |
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| 14:30.57 | peta_ | Titan8990: yields "no uninstall script defined" ...or somethin like that |
| 14:30.57 | jelly | Titan8990: overwritten where? |
| 14:31.24 | Titan8990 | jelly: resolv.conf. my guess is by resolvconf or network-manager |
| 14:31.32 | spangaroo_ | I'd like to change my SFTP user's home directory to something other than /home/username. Anyone know how to do that? |
| 14:31.43 | Titan8990 | spangaroo_: usermod |
| 14:31.58 | Titan8990 | peta_: well, sounds like make install wasn't a good idea |
| 14:32.11 | hochl | wosl: Hmmm, nothing exceptional ... I put thel ogs at 'http://pastebin.com/bahjPty8' for dri enabled. |
| 14:32.15 | spangaroo_ | Titan8990: thanks, I'll head to Google now |
| 14:32.31 | Titan8990 | spangaroo_: don't head to google... man usermod |
| 14:32.35 | hochl | wols: nothing exception means I'veb een trying for so many hours I don't see anything anymore :-) Everything looks similar *fg* |
| 14:32.36 | Titan8990 | spangaroo_: learn the right way |
| 14:32.43 | spangaroo_ | okay |
| 14:32.48 | edju | Titan8990, yes, that's me, and yes, have the 'supersede" stuff in dhclient.conf. |
| 14:33.05 | porton | peta_: Also see the package "stow" |
| 14:33.17 | Titan8990 | edju: do you have the package resolvconf installed? Are there any comments being added to resolv.conf? |
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| 14:34.01 | edju | Titan8990, no to resolvconf and no to comments. |
| 14:34.03 | jelly | edju: pastebin the output of for i in /etc/resolvconf/run/interface/*; do echo "==== $i ===="; cat "$i"; done |
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| 14:36.00 | peta_ | porton: damn, thanks for that tip ... the idea behind stow sounds great |
| 14:36.27 | flami | 'ello, Im wondering , if I mount some device in e.g. /mnt read+write, then use mount --bind -o ro /mnt /someotherplace , will /someplace be readonly and /mnt still read + writeable? I read that aparently in the 2.4 kernel series , both would be read only. is that still true? |
| 14:36.48 | porton | peta_: Also "./configure --prefix=/usr/local/stow/NAME |
| 14:36.50 | jelly | edju: also: dpkg -l libc6 wicd resolvconf dhc\* network-manager\* | grep '^.[ic]' |
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| 14:37.18 | peta_ | porton: Just a quick one: When I installed packages (say a dev package for something) and I compiled the stuff I want from the sources, can I then delete the dev-package installed before? Or must that stay available |
| 14:37.20 | peta_ | ? |
| 14:37.33 | edju | jelly /etc/resolvconf has only a subdir - update-libc.d, which in turn has only avahi-daemon. |
| 14:37.48 | jelly | edju: heh, perhaps installing/using resolvconf would make things better! |
| 14:38.07 | porton | peta_: Yes you may delete. But why? Is your HDD so small that you need to delete? |
| 14:38.33 | Titan8990 | peta_: build depends are only needed build time |
| 14:39.12 | peta_ | porton: I'm working currently on a vps machine and i feel not so pretty when i'm "polluting" it with such stuff |
| 14:39.24 | jelly | edju: I have no idea how dhclient and wicd and stuff interact when resolvconf is not installed; it seems to be _the_ api to manage /etc/resolv.conf in debian. |
| 14:39.26 | porton | peta_: What is vps? |
| 14:39.46 | porton | peta_: Oh, virtual private server |
| 14:39.57 | wols | peta_: better purge it tho |
| 14:40.02 | edju | jelly, OK. thanks. I'l look it up. |
| 14:40.14 | peta_ | Titan8990: really? so in my case I had to install some other libs (libdbm4, openssl, aso.) in order to make python compile with all modules. so after I built python I can remove those all? :) that would be great |
| 14:40.16 | wols | ,versions python |
| 14:40.17 | judd | python -- etch: 2.4.4-2; lenny: 2.5.2-3; sid: 2.5.4-9; squeeze: 2.5.4-9 |
| 14:40.25 | wols | ,versions python26 |
| 14:40.26 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'python26' was found. |
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| 14:40.41 | jelly | gives wols a . |
| 14:40.56 | wols | ,versions python2.6 |
| 14:40.57 | judd | python2.6 -- sid: 2.6.5-1; squeeze: 2.6.5-1 |
| 14:41.08 | wols | peta_: next time, please do a backport |
| 14:41.23 | wols | peta_: including your python modules if possible |
| 14:41.37 | peta_ | wols: where can i get such a backport? never heard about it %) |
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| 14:41.57 | wols | !tell peta_ about ssb |
| 14:42.24 | wols | I didn't say "get" in this case but "do" very deliberately |
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| 14:42.56 | hochl | no ideas? |
| 14:42.57 | peta_ | KaffeeJunky123: kaffe ... gute idee |
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| 14:43.36 | KaffeeJunky123 | peta_: Ich hab gerade welchen Aufgesetzt, leider gibt es noch kein Kaffee over TCP IP protokoll |
| 14:44.01 | KaffeeJunky123 | is it just me or is gnu-chess on hard mode almost impossible to beat? |
| 14:44.20 | jelly | !coffee peta_ |
| 14:44.20 | dpkg | decants a fine brew of fair trade Jamaican Blue Mountain for peta_, courtesy of jelly |
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| 14:45.39 | peta_ | KaffeeJunky123: lol ... CoIP |
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| 14:51.38 | edju | jelly, before i install resolvconf, should i keep the 'supersede" statement in dhclient.conf? |
| 14:51.54 | wols | KaffeeJunky123: cheap commercially available chess programs now play at the IM and GM level so that's to be expected |
| 14:52.04 | wols | unless you are a IM/GM of course |
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| 14:52.23 | KaffeeJunky123 | wols: now I'm a total chess noob :) |
| 14:53.03 | KaffeeJunky123 | *no |
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| 14:54.21 | chops1 | How should I use [ to test for a nonempty directory? |
| 14:54.40 | chops1 | (in shell script) |
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| 14:55.58 | KaffeeJunky123 | chops1: bash I guess? |
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| 14:56.57 | pzn | I got a hardware that is debian 4.0 "without many things". it is not resolving dns. /etc/resolv.conf is ok. someone maybe removed the libs for that. what package should I reinstall for basic dns resolving? |
| 14:56.57 | KaffeeJunky123 | I've seen a good introduction to bash script somewhere, give me a second and I'll give you a link |
| 14:57.25 | chops1 | KaffeeJunky123: Yes, bash FWIW, though [ is independent of shell |
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| 14:59.25 | KaffeeJunky123 | chops1: [ -d $dir ] would work for directories |
| 14:59.32 | KaffeeJunky123 | http://www.linuxconfig.org/Bash_scripting_Tutorial |
| 14:59.34 | \amethyst | chops1: [ can't (easily) test for a empty or non-empty, but there are ways to do it |
| 14:59.40 | \amethyst | s/ a // |
| 14:59.45 | \amethyst | chops1: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/004 |
| 14:59.55 | \amethyst | chops1: it has both bash and Posix sh code to do it |
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| 15:04.07 | chops1 | \amethyst: Excellent, thanks |
| 15:04.12 | chops1 | \amethyst: Also, gargh, these are ugly |
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| 15:06.54 | Breaking_Pitt | i'm getting this error when I'm trying to access to my personal repo |
| 15:06.57 | Breaking_Pitt | some advice please |
| 15:06.59 | Breaking_Pitt | connect (111: Connection refused) |
| 15:06.59 | smhar | I can not connect to the internet. I have a small LAN, with router/gateway. I edited the gateway line in interfaces file and did a ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0 to disable the gateway while still being able to access the network. I tried a usb 3G modem for a while. Later on the day I uncommented the gateway line back and did an ifdow/ifup again. now I can not access the internet. not even pinging google |
| 15:07.02 | smhar | this is my interfaces file: http://paste.debian.net/69027/ . this is my route: http://paste.debian.net/69026/ |
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| 15:07.42 | abrotman | why doesn't eth0 have a gateway ? |
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| 15:10.31 | pzn | which package in debian provides basic dns resolving (via /etc/resolv.conf) ? |
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| 15:12.29 | smhar | abrotman, oops. this is the new interfaces because I am online using the 3g modem. this is the file for the not working eth0: http://paste.debian.net/69029/ : |
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| 15:12.54 | smhar | abrotman, still route does not show the gateway!! |
| 15:13.31 | abrotman | smhar: you'll have to show us what happens when you get those files from a fresh boot |
| 15:13.55 | Titan8990 | pzn: libc6 |
| 15:14.37 | smhar | those are copies from a fresh boot: route: http://paste.debian.net/69026/ interfaces: http://paste.debian.net/69029/ |
| 15:15.12 | pzn | Titan8990: so If the system is not resolving dns... what could be. I installed "dig" and "bind9-host" and these utilities resolv OK. but "ping" does not resolv. |
| 15:15.35 | peta_ | A friendly guy called dpkg told me something about backports. I added the backports.org to the source list, and dropped apt-get update. but as soon as i try 'apt-get -t etch-backports install foo' apt tells me that there is no option "-t" ... why does he tell this? |
| 15:15.51 | KaffeeJunky123 | How do I get network games for the chess from the gnome games package to work? |
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| 15:16.22 | wols | peta_: first, why do you use etch backports? 2nd, what's wrong with this line "apt-get package" ? |
| 15:16.36 | Titan8990 | pzn: I just did an strace on ping and it looks like it uses /lib/libresolv.so.2 |
| 15:16.45 | Titan8990 | pzn: what does /etc/nsswitch.conf look like? |
| 15:17.29 | pzn | Titan8990: that was it nsswitch was wrong! |
| 15:17.31 | jelly | peta_: apt-get has had an -t option for quite a while. Check your syntax. Also: etch backports do not exist any more, as etch is not supported since February. |
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| 15:18.14 | peta_ | wols: i need python 2.6.5 for etch. (no i can't upgrade to a newer distri) you told me some lines above to look for backports instead of compiling from the sources manually. |
| 15:18.23 | Titan8990 | pzn: good that it was simple :) |
| 15:18.31 | jelly | ,versions postfix |
| 15:18.33 | judd | postfix -- etch: 2.3.8-2+etch1; etch-security: 2.3.8-2+etch1; etch-backports: 2.5.5-1~bpo40+1; lenny: 2.5.5-1.1; squeeze: 2.6.5-3; sid: 2.7.0-1 |
| 15:18.47 | azeem_ | peta_: it's not available |
| 15:18.53 | jelly | peta_: seems like you'll have to backport it yourself |
| 15:18.54 | wols | peta_: no. I told you to DO a backport, not download one |
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| 15:19.14 | jelly | did a backport of 2.7.0-1 to lenny and survived |
| 15:19.18 | wols | peta_: you still have to compile it manually, but you then have a deb package you can install and uninstall |
| 15:19.26 | smhar | abrotman, this is route for the 3g connection: http://paste.debian.net/69030/ |
| 15:19.43 | jelly | er... python? |
| 15:19.46 | peta_ | wols: oops .. now i understand the different meaning between do <> get |
| 15:19.58 | peta_ | wols: sorry for nagging |
| 15:19.59 | jelly | peta_: huh. That's not going to be easy. |
| 15:20.09 | wols | not with etch, it isn't |
| 15:20.26 | wols | peta_: there is no good, sane reason to run etch still. upgrade |
| 15:20.27 | jelly | peta_: python packaging is such a complex issue, there's a whole separate policy document for it. |
| 15:20.40 | Titan8990 | wols: legacy applications |
| 15:21.07 | wols | Titan8990: chroots are awesome |
| 15:21.25 | jelly | peta_: might as well install it in /opt/python2.6 from source, or in /usr/local, if you need etch |
| 15:21.27 | Titan8990 | wols: so are servers that can sit in a closet and run for 10 years :) |
| 15:21.52 | wols | not when they get owned by the next script kiddie since the software they run is unsupported for 5 years |
| 15:21.53 | Titan8990 | is not trying to advocate usage of an EOL os |
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| 15:21.58 | peta_ | wols: okay, i'll see if i can upgrade |
| 15:22.09 | Titan8990 | wols: minor details |
| 15:22.16 | peta_ | jelly: how can i specify the install locations? |
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| 15:22.29 | wols | peta_: configure --help usually |
| 15:22.30 | jelly | peta_: no idea... ask #python, I guess |
| 15:22.37 | wols | usually the --prefix option |
| 15:22.55 | jelly | peta_: what are you really trying to do? |
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| 15:23.31 | jelly | (hint: it's not "install Python 2.6" -- why do you need it) |
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| 15:23.53 | Titan8990 | jelly: that was the answer I was expecting to get |
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| 15:24.54 | jelly | Titan8990: put down the chocolate covered banana, and step away from european currency systems! |
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| 15:25.13 | jelly | !xyproblem |
| 15:25.13 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, xyproblem is people often falsely diagnose problems because they are looking too closely at a problem: they have got stuck at a particular point (Y) doing something (X) and so ask about step Y, not realising that there is an easier or better way to do X in the first place. See http://wooledge.org/mywiki/Xyproblem, or http://homepages.tesco.net/J.deBoynePollard/FGA/put-down-the-chocolate-covered-banana.html |
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| 15:27.45 | peta_ | jelly: i want to work with the latest python 2.x version. currently i have python 2.4 ... so i want to update |
| 15:28.13 | jelly | peta_: why? |
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| 15:29.31 | peta_ | jelly: because of multiprocessing package |
| 15:29.54 | peta_ | as far as i know that's not avaialbe in < 2.6 |
| 15:29.56 | jelly | judd: versions python-multiprocessing |
| 15:29.57 | judd | python-multiprocessing -- sid: 2.6.2.1-4; squeeze: 2.6.2.1-4 |
| 15:30.40 | wols | you still have the GIL :P |
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| 15:31.03 | jelly | "This is a back port to Python 2.4/2.5 of the multiprocessing package introduced via PEP-371 and Python 2.6." |
| 15:31.17 | peta_ | wols: "The multiprocessing package offers both local and remote concurrency, effectively side-stepping the Global Interpreter Lock by using subprocesses instead of threads." |
| 15:31.39 | wols | interesting. how does it share data? |
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| 15:31.52 | wols | ie. variables |
| 15:31.55 | jelly | peta_: if you wish to keep close to Debian, I'd suggest using lenny, python 2.5, and the package mentioned. If you wish to keep up with python, use python 2.6. |
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| 15:32.28 | jelly | peta_: that pacakge _might_ even be installable to etch, but ymmv |
| 15:32.47 | jelly | judd: depends python-multiprocessing squeeze |
| 15:32.48 | judd | python-multiprocessing -- depends: python2.5, python-support (>= 0.90.0), libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6~), libjs-jquery. |
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| 15:32.58 | jelly | or not. |
| 15:33.10 | icebrain | wols: http://docs.python.org/library/multiprocessing.html#exchanging-objects-between-processes |
| 15:33.12 | peta_ | jelly: hmm ... i think i'll switch to lenny |
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| 15:34.54 | SPF | I need 2 hops with ssh -X to login to the target node. The system in the middle doesnt have X, but the target says the DISPLAY variable is not set. How can I fix this, shell is bash |
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| 15:35.20 | peta_ | jelly, wols, judd: thanks for your support. have a nice day |
| 15:35.41 | jelly | peta_: with lenny, it'll be at least installable, provided you use python-support from lenny-backports. I've never tried that stuff though. It might or might not work at all. |
| 15:35.44 | wols | judd is a bot :) |
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| 15:36.04 | edwin_quijada | Hi! |
| 15:36.07 | jelly | peta_: perhaps ask more in #debian-python, on irc.oftc.net |
| 15:36.24 | icebrain | !greet edwin_quijada |
| 15:36.25 | dpkg | Salutations, edwin_quijada |
| 15:36.31 | edwin_quijada | I need an app to do a sniffer to one machine in my network but i dont know wich machine is |
| 15:36.46 | shylent | what do you mean? |
| 15:37.06 | shylent | if you want to probe your network for active machines, the most obvious tool is nmap |
| 15:37.19 | edwin_quijada | yes, I used |
| 15:37.39 | edwin_quijada | but i cant find so much information just an open port |
| 15:37.52 | Titan8990 | edwin_quijada: what information are you looking for? |
| 15:37.55 | nsadmin | is any part of fglrx a kernel module? |
| 15:37.55 | edwin_quijada | i wanna know tha machine is |
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| 15:38.31 | edwin_quijada | this pc had a ftp open port so when I started to monitor it desaapered |
| 15:38.36 | edwin_quijada | so weird |
| 15:38.48 | nsadmin | I'm running 2.6.26-2-xen-686 and eventually want to get fglrx for my card and kernel |
| 15:38.50 | Titan8990 | edwin_quijada: do you own this machine? |
| 15:39.00 | edwin_quijada | i dont know |
| 15:39.13 | edwin_quijada | this place is so big |
| 15:39.22 | jelly | edwin_quijada: are you the network admin? |
| 15:39.24 | nsadmin | you mean like this internet place? |
| 15:39.40 | edwin_quijada | and maybe is a machine not is from my net |
| 15:39.51 | jelly | !confuse edwin_quijada |
| 15:39.52 | dpkg | Yes, where are our badger yesterday, edwin_quijada? Shirts of the Monarchy of Tahiti with extra crabpaste. |
| 15:39.52 | nsadmin | wouldn't you know by your IPs? |
| 15:39.53 | edwin_quijada | jelly: no , I mean where I am |
| 15:39.55 | shylent | then you find out which switch port that machine is plugged into, then you do #monitor session 1 source interface Fa0/x #monitor session 1 destination interface Fa0/x and BAM, - all your traffic belongs to .. :P |
| 15:40.09 | shylent | easy :) |
| 15:40.24 | edwin_quijada | it has IP from my range |
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| 15:40.42 | nsadmin | all are traffic are belong to are? |
| 15:40.50 | jelly | assuming a) he is network admin, b) he has managed switches, and c) is in control of them |
| 15:40.51 | Titan8990 | edwin_quijada: your public internet range? |
| 15:41.04 | edwin_quijada | no |
| 15:41.13 | edwin_quijada | everything is local traffic |
| 15:41.13 | shylent | I was being extremely silly, please try not to make a fuss out of it :P: |
| 15:41.37 | jelly | will be as fussy as he wants to. If it's debian related. |
| 15:41.51 | shylent | got it |
| 15:41.53 | jelly | edwin_quijada: what does "local" mean? |
| 15:42.01 | Titan8990 | assumes LAN |
| 15:42.03 | edwin_quijada | i mean local network |
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| 15:42.09 | geoX | hi |
| 15:42.14 | nsadmin | debifusser! |
| 15:42.21 | geoX | hi guys |
| 15:42.24 | jelly | edwin_quijada: are you administering this local network of yours? |
| 15:42.35 | geoX | i have a debian-windowmaker question |
| 15:42.42 | edwin_quijada | jelly: well, not exactly |
| 15:42.53 | jelly | edwin_quijada: contact your network admin, then. |
| 15:43.04 | edwin_quijada | there isnt |
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| 15:43.11 | bzrk | lol |
| 15:43.12 | nsadmin | geoX: ask the questoin... not so many <enter>s |
| 15:43.24 | Titan8990 | edwin_quijada: *someone* has control of the network |
| 15:43.27 | edwin_quijada | nop |
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| 15:43.36 | edwin_quijada | I have an app running here |
| 15:43.49 | edwin_quijada | and they ask me for this situation |
| 15:44.08 | jelly | edwin_quijada: do "they" have a network admin? |
| 15:44.09 | edwin_quijada | so I need to help them to find out what machine is |
| 15:44.13 | edwin_quijada | No |
| 15:44.20 | nsadmin | the "they" that runs the net? |
| 15:44.23 | geoX | why my APPLICATION MENU DEFINITION gives me this: http://pastebin.com/rDU21wXg |
| 15:44.27 | Titan8990 | edwin_quijada: consider whoever knows the admin passwords, the admin |
| 15:44.56 | Titan8990 | edwin_quijada: easy way to tell: block the damn thing from the LAN and wait for a complaint |
| 15:45.02 | jelly | right |
| 15:45.29 | edwin_quijada | uhmm, precisle i dont want to do that becasue maybe never complaint |
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| 15:45.42 | jelly | edwin_quijada: then the problem will be solved! |
| 15:45.45 | shylent | so it is a win-win basically :) |
| 15:45.48 | bzrk | lol |
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| 15:45.52 | Titan8990 | edwin_quijada: then it must not need to be there |
| 15:45.56 | nsadmin | maybe never complaint? then maybe free hardware :) |
| 15:46.11 | scratchme | Anyone have a favorite multipath configuration guide with examples? |
| 15:46.12 | edwin_quijada | or maybe malicious |
| 15:46.22 | edwin_quijada | just i need is sniffer |
| 15:46.24 | bzrk | edwin_quijada: are you the network admin? |
| 15:46.39 | edwin_quijada | what sniffer i canuse |
| 15:46.45 | shylent | scratchme: hmm, I remember reading this: http://www.tchetch.net/wiki/debian/multipath_ibm_ds4000 |
| 15:46.47 | jelly | edwin_quijada: you need access to the managed switches "there" |
| 15:46.54 | shylent | scratchme: its a bit outdate though |
| 15:46.54 | icebrain | edwin_quijada: wireshark, for examle |
| 15:46.58 | shylent | outdated * |
| 15:47.03 | edwin_quijada | jelly: i can |
| 15:47.03 | scratchme | shylent: How so? |
| 15:47.35 | shylent | scratchme: how so what? :O |
| 15:47.49 | scratchme | shylent: you said it's a bit outdated. How is it outdated? |
| 15:47.58 | Titan8990 | edwin_quijada: look. if you think something is malicous the totally wrong thing to do is waste time trying to figure out what it is. get it off the network *now* |
| 15:48.06 | jelly | edwin_quijada: then you do something like shylent said above, copy all traffic to a separate port, attach a machine to that port, and THEN you use a sniffer |
| 15:48.08 | shylent | scratchme: well, I think it is for etch? but it gives you a good idea what is going on and what you have to do |
| 15:48.21 | abrotman | smhheranaway |
| 15:48.53 | jelly | edwin_quijada: all of this isn't Debian specific at all. Try asking in ##networking. |
| 15:48.56 | wols | abrotman: you had to let him see your face? |
| 15:49.07 | abrotman | guess so or something |
| 15:49.12 | shylent | scratchme: the only real problem I've ever had with setting up multipath i/o is when the vendor didn't support debian |
| 15:49.16 | nsadmin | himranaway? or herranaway? |
| 15:49.49 | shylent | scratchme: I just hope, that you are not doing it on a production machine :P |
| 15:49.58 | scratchme | shylent: Is multipath_hook a config file or an app? |
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| 15:50.31 | scratchme | shylent: What's wrong with using this on a production machine? |
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| 15:51.02 | scratchme | shylent: (I wouldn't do it on a currently production machine, if that's what you mean) |
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| 15:51.16 | shylent | scratchme: er, nothing wrong with *using* it on a production machine. *experimenting* with it on a currently production machine is not such a good idea |
| 15:51.33 | scratchme | shylent: right, I won't be experimenting on a production machine. |
| 15:52.26 | shylent | hehe yeah, you have to try hard to actually cause any real data loss, but everything is possible for a curious mind :P |
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| 15:54.30 | jelly | had real problems with multipath when he stayed in the support matrix, and curiously less problems with unsupported setups |
| 15:54.53 | shylent | that is unfortunate :) |
| 15:54.55 | jelly | so... yeah |
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| 15:55.36 | jelly | if vendor supports RHEL5 with dm-multipath, the configuration can be used with very little changes |
| 15:55.43 | edwin_quijada | I used nmap to find out the SO and I cant |
| 15:55.48 | shylent | the configuration, yes |
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| 15:56.00 | shylent | the kernel modules, - not so much |
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| 16:07.02 | jelly | well, if you're lucky enough, with a newer kernel you won't need custom modules |
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| 16:07.56 | scratchme | shylent: thanks for the link, I'll read up, and try a few things. |
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| 16:12.54 | rgr | what apps actually make use of the data created by the gnome tracker on debian? |
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| 16:14.42 | Titan8990 | rgr: looks like there are a couple listed here: http://projects.gnome.org/tracker/documentation.html |
| 16:14.51 | Titan8990 | rgr: I would just compare to see what is available |
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| 16:20.41 | johnfg | hi guys |
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| 16:21.37 | johnfg | i'm using a microsoft wireless mouse 6000 with the blue track. Very cool, way better than anything else I've used. |
| 16:22.04 | johnfg | However, on debian lenny, I don't see a way to slow down the scroll button. Is there a way to do this? |
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| 16:24.02 | ham5 | im sure there is |
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| 16:24.17 | Rapsodius | hello peoples |
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| 16:25.27 | Rapsodius | apt-get is lately complaining about : "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" |
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| 16:25.44 | johnfg | I can do it from, <ahem>, windoze, but don't know how to do it for linux. |
| 16:25.46 | Kep | hello here |
| 16:25.49 | jhutchins_lt | Rapsodius: Did you ad a repository recently? |
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| 16:26.01 | Rapsodius | jhutchins_it: no |
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| 16:26.17 | jhutchins_lt | johnfg: You can usually set the acceleration in the xorg.conf file, but specifics for your mouse are probably best found on the web. |
| 16:26.38 | pixil | acceleration will not adjust how quickly the mouse wheel scrolls. |
| 16:26.50 | ham5 | install the key from the repo your gettin packages from Rapsodius |
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| 16:27.06 | HaPe | hi |
| 16:27.40 | Rapsodius | ham5: I only have debian squeeze and squeeze/updates, both in main, non-free and contrib |
| 16:27.44 | johnfg | A fast scroll doesn't do it justice. I barely touch it and it flies. |
| 16:27.45 | HaPe | i have a problem with nginx+php-cgi, when i try open php file i get an error "No input file specified" |
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| 16:28.20 | pixil | johnfg: You need to find the ButtonPress event in your xorg config and adjust per documentation for your distro. |
| 16:28.28 | Rapsodius | johnfg: use lxinput |
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| 16:28.54 | Rapsodius | johnfg: its actually easier than doing that X editing |
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| 16:29.05 | Kep | hello here, i m a newbie and i recently install kubuntu (with the wubi install on my computer) but i cant configure my wireless connexion, can you help me plz, i dont know how it works |
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| 16:29.17 | johnfg | Rapsodius, Is that in the xorg.conf file? |
| 16:29.19 | Rapsodius | !ubuntu |
| 16:29.20 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
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| 16:29.27 | ham5 | ship off to the nootu channel Kep |
| 16:29.28 | smhar | I can not connect to the internet. I have a small LAN, with router/gateway. I edited the gateway line in interfaces file and did a ifdown eth0 ; ifup eth0 to disable the gateway while still being able to access the network. I tried a usb 3G modem for a while. Later on the day I un-commented the gateway line back and did an ifdown/ifup again. now I can not access the internet. not even pinging google |
| 16:29.49 | Rapsodius | johnfg: no, sudo apt-get install lxinput |
| 16:30.06 | smhar | here is my interfaces file: http://paste.debian.net/69044/ , route: http://paste.debian.net/69043/ , ifconfig: http://paste.debian.net/69038/ |
| 16:30.08 | Rapsodius | however IIRC, it's only on testing and unstable |
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| 16:31.15 | genjin | I added a function to my .profile which works a charm - until I logout / log back in - it kills xsession - saying there is a syntax error in .profile - unexpected bracket. Whats up? function grope() { grep "$@" | sed -e 's/\([\t]*\)//g' ; } |
| 16:31.19 | Rapsodius | Kep: do yourself a favour and write this on your irc client: "/join #ubuntu" then hit enter |
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| 16:31.54 | Titan8990 | Rapsodius: more like do *us* a favor :p |
| 16:31.58 | johnfg | Rapsodius, OK, installing now, and *thanks* |
| 16:32.03 | Kep | raspodius oki thx |
| 16:32.13 | Kep | Rapsodius thx |
| 16:32.20 | pixil | genjin: get rid of the semicolon. |
| 16:32.36 | jhutchins_lt | Kep: You might also want to /join kubuntu - they use different network managers. |
| 16:33.05 | johnfg | Rapsodius, Where is lxinput? apt-get says there's no such package. |
| 16:33.19 | Titan8990 | !tell johnfg about apt-file |
| 16:33.24 | jhutchins_lt | judd: versions lxinput |
| 16:33.26 | judd | lxinput -- lenny-backports: 0.1.1-2~bpo50+1; sid: 0.1.1-2; squeeze: 0.1.1-2 |
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| 16:33.40 | Rapsodius | johnfg: its on the backports |
| 16:34.15 | pixil | genjin: Linux has a nice feature called "alias" too, which is designed specifically for what you're trying to accomplish. man 8 alias. |
| 16:34.21 | Rapsodius | add a line for backports on your /etc/apt/sources.list and then apt-get update |
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| 16:34.40 | Titan8990 | pixil: i think a function we be correct for something like that... |
| 16:34.46 | Titan8990 | s/we/would |
| 16:34.46 | pixil | Titan8990: Why? |
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| 16:35.14 | Rapsodius | strange, I searched for 'keyring' on apt and seems I have already installed debian-archive-keyring, still apt complains about unsigned packages |
| 16:35.20 | pixil | Overcomplicated. Alias would completely suffice. |
| 16:35.28 | Titan8990 | pixil: that is what the bot in #bash tells me :p. <greybot> If you have to ask, use a function instead: myfunc() { foo "$@" | bar; } |
| 16:35.32 | genjin | pixil: just tried removing the semicolon - still breaks xsession |
| 16:35.41 | pixil | genjin: With the same error? |
| 16:35.48 | genjin | pixil: yeah |
| 16:36.03 | pixil | Can you pastebin a full output of the issue? |
| 16:36.16 | Titan8990 | pixil: I believe its because he is running multiple commands. |
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| 16:37.00 | Rapsodius | !tell johnfg about backports |
| 16:37.07 | \amethyst | pixil: an alias can only append its arguments to the end |
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| 16:37.18 | \amethyst | pixil: genjin's code needs to put them in the middle |
| 16:37.47 | Titan8990 | good, someone who knows and can explain much better than I can |
| 16:37.48 | johnfg | Titan8990, and Rapsodius thanks for both things, especially the apt-file. |
| 16:37.50 | \amethyst | genjin: do you have the word "function" in there? |
| 16:37.54 | \amethyst | genjin: you shouldn't |
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| 16:37.59 | Titan8990 | johnfg: np |
| 16:38.35 | \amethyst | genjin: .profile is used by all sorts of Posix and Bourne shells, not just bash, so shouldn't include extensions like the 'function' keyword |
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| 16:39.04 | \amethyst | genjin: which is fine, because it's not necessary. The standard way to define a function is: grope() { grep "$@" | sed -e 's/\([\t]*\)//g' ; } |
| 16:39.14 | genjin | amethyst: how about I use .bashrc instead? |
| 16:39.30 | johnfg | Is there info about how to set up backports in my sources.list? |
| 16:39.36 | genjin | amethyst: ok, I'll lose the function keyword, thanks |
| 16:39.40 | \amethyst | genjin: you should be aware that .bashrc and .profile are sourced at different times |
| 16:39.54 | nsadmin | backports.org |
| 16:39.56 | \amethyst | genjin: .profile by login shells (also by the X init scripts), and .bashrc by non-login shells |
| 16:40.09 | \amethyst | genjin: so probably it makes sense to put it in both places |
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| 16:41.06 | \amethyst | genjin: (since functions aren't inherited, just setting it in .profile won't make it available to subsequent shells like those started by terminal emulators) |
| 16:41.13 | johnfg | Never mind, it was in the link. Sorry. |
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| 16:44.46 | Selveste1_ | hallo :) |
| 16:45.40 | Selveste1_ | is there a way to downgrade from squezze to lenny.? |
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| 16:46.18 | Titan8990 | !downgrade |
| 16:46.18 | dpkg | methinks downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
| 16:46.42 | d1b | Titan8990: hehe. |
| 16:46.48 | d1b | Selveste1_: there is but it isn't supported. |
| 16:46.49 | ham5 | back up that /home and /etc and cross your fingers:) |
| 16:46.59 | nsadmin | Selveste1_: sure. restore from your backup |
| 16:47.13 | Titan8990 | d1b: which makes it a "if you have to ask..." |
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| 16:47.30 | d1b | Titan8990: perhaps :P |
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| 16:47.48 | Selveste1_ | nsadmin: it my laptop it dosen't have a total backup, only /home that is backedup :P |
| 16:47.51 | d1b | Selveste1_: apt-pinning stable over everything else and forcing an apt-get upgrade might work |
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| 16:48.03 | d1b | 'might' |
| 16:48.08 | Selveste1_ | dlb thanks |
| 16:48.17 | nsadmin | Selveste1, so just reinstall |
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| 16:48.31 | mactheknife | hi, is there a program in debian in text modus which checks / control all the hardware? |
| 16:48.42 | genjin | thanks people. Moving the function to the .bashrc seems to have done the trick. The function is available in my ssh and screen session. Taking the function keyword out of the declaration in my .profile stopped the syntax error when sourced via xsession, but didn't "export" the function. |
| 16:48.42 | d1b | mactheknife: what kind? |
| 16:49.12 | mactheknife | no in graphical mode but text mode |
| 16:49.23 | d1b | erh.... |
| 16:49.35 | _Trullo | if I want to be able to power down hd's in debian, which tool should I use? |
| 16:50.03 | pixil | power down? |
| 16:50.06 | pixil | O.o |
| 16:50.08 | nsadmin | power switch |
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| 16:50.21 | pixil | power cable? heh |
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| 16:50.48 | ham5 | kinda like hibernate..? |
| 16:50.53 | mactheknife | e.g. in windows you got AIDA |
| 16:51.06 | nsadmin | _Trullo what is controlling the drive power? |
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| 16:52.07 | pixil | acpi probably |
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| 16:52.53 | nsadmin | what -hardware- is controlling the drive power? (after that, what software is available to control that hardware) |
| 16:53.09 | nsadmin | in any case he's non responsive |
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| 16:53.17 | _Trullo | I'm checking win7, but I have no option there to power down hd's.. |
| 16:53.28 | ham5 | acpid ? |
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| 16:53.36 | nsadmin | what -hardware- is controlling the drive power? |
| 16:53.49 | Rapsodius | Still apt-get complains when installing packages and says they're unsigned and I have debian-archive-keyring installed |
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| 16:54.39 | _Trullo | the psu is controlling drive power |
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| 16:54.46 | mactheknife | I am looking for a hardware testing program in text mode for debian |
| 16:54.52 | cockroach | does the current debian installer properly handle the new 4k sector hdds or do i have to intervene manually? |
| 16:55.02 | pixil | mactheknife: For testing what kind of hardware? |
| 16:55.11 | _Trullo | I wonder what you could do in previous windows versions.. spin down hd's only? |
| 16:55.14 | nsadmin | is the psu capable of turning the drives individually on and off? |
| 16:55.17 | _Trullo | no |
| 16:55.24 | mactheknife | pixil: for testing laptop hardware |
| 16:55.25 | wols | cockroach: manually |
| 16:55.38 | _Trullo | ok, I refrase my question, what tool do I use to spin down hd's in debian? |
| 16:55.38 | cockroach | wols: ok, thanks |
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| 16:55.53 | cahoot | mactheknife: disk, ram - what? |
| 16:55.54 | pixil | mactheknife: WHAT hardware? hard disk? Cpu? Memory? |
| 16:56.01 | wols | _Trullo: hdparm? |
| 16:56.01 | cockroach | _Trullo: hdparm? |
| 16:56.07 | cockroach | lol |
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| 16:56.26 | pixil | You want to spin down a hd? dismount it. |
| 16:56.28 | bzed | pixil: I guess ssd |
| 16:56.38 | _Trullo | there is no option built in control panel in debian? |
| 16:56.47 | pixil | _Trullo: To stop using a hard disk? |
| 16:56.50 | pixil | Dismount it. |
| 16:57.46 | nsadmin | that doesn't spin it down (altho you will need to dismount all partitions/volumes on the drive before spining down |
| 16:57.49 | nsadmin | ) |
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| 16:58.25 | pixil | dismounting it will absolutely spin it down. |
| 16:58.32 | mactheknife | pixil: yes,hdd, cpu, graphic card, momory |
| 16:58.40 | mactheknife | memory |
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| 16:58.48 | Rapsodius | nsadmin: no, but you can set the acoustic emission policy,which spins it down |
| 16:58.51 | pixil | mactheknife: hdparm for hard disks. mem86 for memory. |
| 16:58.59 | nsadmin | pixil: on what planet? |
| 16:59.14 | pixil | nsadmin: Explain to me why a disk would be spinning if it weren't mounted? |
| 16:59.16 | mactheknife | pixil: and for graphic card? |
| 16:59.32 | nsadmin | pixil: because it's powered up |
| 16:59.38 | pixil | mactheknife: No clue, probably specific to the manufacturer. |
| 16:59.42 | pixil | nsadmin: Try it. :-) |
| 17:00.10 | nsadmin | already done, over a period of about 18 years |
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| 17:00.18 | pixil | Oh good grief. |
| 17:00.18 | stuckey | Hello |
| 17:00.26 | pixil | I'm so impressed. </sarcasm> |
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| 17:00.33 | stuckey | Does anyone here know how I can get rid of the openjava and install sun java? |
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| 17:01.19 | wols | pixil: you should be. unless hdparm sets the inactivity spindown time, it won't spin down ever |
| 17:01.25 | johnfg | Lots of questions I see. How do I get the key for backports? It says to run apt-get update to fix the problem, and it comes back with the same response. |
| 17:01.30 | wols | !tell stuckey about install java |
| 17:01.31 | pixil | _Trullo: http://nabeelc.blogspot.com/2007/01/debian-hdd-spindown-kurobox-central.html |
| 17:01.31 | Rapsodius | stuckey: add lines for non-free and contrib on sources.list, apt-get update, apt-get install sun6-java-jre |
| 17:01.48 | pixil | wols: I'm never impressed by people that brag about how long they've been using linux in order to try and insult the other party. |
| 17:02.13 | wols | pixil: I'm not impressed by ignorants like you either :) |
| 17:02.17 | stuckey | Rapsodius: but then when I go to install eclipse or netbeans, aptitude install open java |
| 17:02.27 | pixil | wols: I'm not sure what I'm ignorant about, but ok. :-) |
| 17:02.30 | wols | PS: I hope no one claims to have 18 years of linux experience |
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| 17:02.43 | wols | pixil: ignorant about what makes hdds spin down |
| 17:02.52 | pixil | I'm wrong about what makes hard disks spin down. |
| 17:02.53 | Rapsodius | that is because it needs some alternative, first install sun6 and then uninstall the open implementation |
| 17:02.57 | pixil | Not sure that makes me ignorant. |
| 17:03.16 | wols | pixil: you are also ignorant about the word ignorant apparently |
| 17:03.22 | _Trullo | thanks pixil |
| 17:03.24 | nsadmin | show where you were insulted |
| 17:03.27 | extor | I just installed the xtables addons package in squeeze and got this error: http://pastebin.com/PJrVccPy while loading an old ruleset. Is the path to the databases hardcoded in the package binary now or is there possibly a text config file I can alter? Or perhaps I should just create that directory and copy the databases? |
| 17:03.39 | stuckey | Rapsodius: how? |
| 17:03.40 | nsadmin | and I'll show where you allowed it |
| 17:03.49 | pixil | nsadmin: I'm done with you. |
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| 17:03.58 | Rapsodius | stuckey: apt-get install sun-java6-jre |
| 17:04.05 | johnfg | I'm ignorant about where the key is for backports and how to install it! Enlighten me, please, and dispel my ignorance. |
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| 17:04.30 | nsadmin | that info is not on backports.org? |
| 17:04.35 | Rapsodius | !tell johnfg about backports |
| 17:04.36 | themill | johnfg: see the instructions page on backports.org |
| 17:04.42 | wols | johnfg: backports.org click on "instructions" and read it all :) |
| 17:04.45 | stuckey | Rapsodius: already did that |
| 17:04.48 | pixil | backports isn't a popular question around here or anything. :-) |
| 17:04.55 | wols | yay! ignorance is curable! |
| 17:05.12 | pixil | The horse was dead 5 minutes ago. :-) |
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| 17:05.28 | wols | someone beat you? |
| 17:05.33 | Rapsodius | if you feel adventurous, you can download the .deb and manually install it, lxde packages don't have that many dependences |
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| 17:06.10 | Rapsodius | stuckey: then do apt-get remove openjdk-6-jre |
| 17:06.22 | stuckey | Rapsodius: wasn't isntalled |
| 17:06.40 | Rapsodius | stuckey: then what is the package that provides the open java? |
| 17:06.48 | stuckey | Rapsodius: debian is making you use openjava by default, and itdoesn't tell you how to override that behaviour |
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| 17:06.59 | stuckey | Rapsodius: I have no idea |
| 17:07.15 | Rapsodius | stuckey: wait a sec, I am onto the issue |
| 17:07.19 | themill | stuckey: there are plenty of tools at your disposal to work this one out. man aptitude |
| 17:07.20 | nsadmin | try apt-cache search java |
| 17:07.29 | stuckey | hahaha, funny |
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| 17:07.37 | themill | stuckey: I'm not kidding. |
| 17:07.43 | stuckey | themill: neither am I |
| 17:07.52 | pixil | o.o |
| 17:08.29 | themill | stuckey: if you can't be bothered to investigate this, then neither can we. (Hint: look for "why", "-W" and "-D") |
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| 17:09.32 | Rapsodius | stuckey: sudo apt-get remove default-jre gcj-4.4-jre gcj-jre |
| 17:09.59 | johnfg | Hooray! I'm no longer ignorant of where to get the key, and I'm installing lxinput! |
| 17:10.01 | nsadmin | if you don't know how java got onto your system, either it was placed on there with or without a debian package. if without, you're on your own as the solution would then involve forensic analysis, which is probably off topic... if it is, then you would need to know what the package name is |
| 17:10.15 | nsadmin | how would you find the package name? |
| 17:10.52 | Rapsodius | (just make sure you have installed sun java BEFORE doing that) else aptitude will choose the first alternative, if still unsure check openoffice.org preferences and see how many VM's are listed |
| 17:11.08 | stuckey | Rapsodius: no it chooses open java no matter what |
| 17:11.17 | stuckey | Rapsodius: if I install regular java before, it still chooses open java. |
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| 17:11.50 | Rapsodius | stuckey: sudo update-alÃternatives --cnfig java |
| 17:11.52 | nsadmin | stuckey: then both are installed? |
| 17:11.57 | Rapsodius | stuckey: sudo update-alternatives --cnfig java |
| 17:12.02 | Rapsodius | stuckey: sudo update-alternatives --config java |
| 17:12.07 | Rapsodius | damn irc clien |
| 17:12.24 | nsadmin | you may or may not have sudo installed |
| 17:12.38 | stuckey | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:12.40 | stuckey | * 1 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java 63 manual mode |
| 17:12.51 | themill | stuckey: you also have people running after you on two channels for this.... please don't do that. |
| 17:12.55 | Rapsodius | you have sun vm selected |
| 17:13.37 | stuckey | Rapsodius: So I just *have* to install open java, at which point it will choose the open java for me, and then I can go back and update to turn it to regular java and just have open java eating space on my disc? |
| 17:13.48 | johnfg | Rapsodius, OK, I think lxinput has slowed it down, gonna put the brakes on a little harder (or spur a little harder, if you please, and like the metaphor). |
| 17:13.59 | nsadmin | why do you have to install open java? |
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| 17:14.32 | stuckey | nsadmin: exactly |
| 17:14.33 | Rapsodius | stuckey: you don't have to, that output says to me that you have sun java selected as the system wide java virtual machine |
| 17:14.45 | stuckey | Rapsodius: Listen, if I do "aptitude install eclipse" I get open java |
| 17:14.54 | stuckey | No choice about it. Either I install open java, or I don't install eclipse. |
| 17:15.17 | nsadmin | you didn't say that before |
| 17:15.21 | stuckey | nsadmin: Yes I did |
| 17:15.30 | Rapsodius | stuckey: there are alternatives to eclipse, you can use geany, or codeblocks |
| 17:15.37 | nsadmin | , depends eclipse |
| 17:15.38 | judd | eclipse -- depends: eclipse-jdt (= 3.2.2-6.1), eclipse-pde (= 3.2.2-6.1), eclipse-source (= 3.2.2-6.1), zenity, libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0). |
| 17:15.40 | wildc4rd | evenin' all |
| 17:15.44 | stuckey | 19:03 < stuckey> Rapsodius: but then when I go to install eclipse or netbeans, aptitude install open java |
| 17:15.47 | stuckey | 19:03 < stuckey> Rapsodius: but then when I go to install eclipse or netbeans, aptitude install open java |
| 17:15.59 | Rapsodius | , depends eclipse-jdt |
| 17:16.01 | judd | eclipse-jdt -- depends: eclipse-platform (= 3.2.2-6.1), junit (>= 3.8), junit4, ant-optional (>= 1.6.5-3). |
| 17:16.05 | stuckey | Verb/noun mismatch... sorry. |
| 17:16.24 | Rapsodius | johnfg: np |
| 17:16.26 | wols | Rapsodius: man apt-rdepends |
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| 17:16.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | and junit depends on java-gcj-compat | java1-runtime | java2-runtime |
| 17:16.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | looks fine to me |
| 17:16.48 | Rapsodius | ohhh that remembers me |
| 17:16.56 | Rapsodius | stuckey: recommends are evil |
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| 17:17.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | what's "that" and why does it remember you (and fondly or in ire?) |
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| 17:17.27 | Rapsodius | go to aptitude then go to the menu (press control-T) and go to the options |
| 17:17.31 | johnfg | Rapsodius, The man page says nothing. I notice, when I run lxinput a second time, sensitivity is still at 100%! Is there a file somewhere that needs to be edited? It's not just per session, is it? |
| 17:18.10 | Rapsodius | then uncheck 'treat recommends as strong dependencies' |
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| 17:18.34 | Rapsodius | johnfg: apt-get install lxde-settings-daemon should save your settings |
| 17:18.54 | johnfg | Is that in backports, too :-) |
| 17:19.27 | Rapsodius | johnfg: I don't have idea |
| 17:19.44 | johnfg | Nope, it's not. |
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| 17:20.33 | Rapsodius | according to judd, lxde-settings-daemon is on normal lenny repos |
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| 17:21.21 | sqlnoob2 | Hello smart debian people. :) Our schools computers are all getting aged, and I am having a little bit of trouble finding a clear simple answer. I want to install debian on our old test machines, and have it automatically boot into our 2008 R2 RDP session server. Any tips or ideas on where I should start looking? |
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| 17:21.48 | nsadmin | I'm running 2.6.26-2-xen-686 and eventually want to get fglrx for my card and kernel |
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| 17:22.39 | format_c | sqlnoob2, What is a 2008 R2 RDP? |
| 17:23.01 | wols | format_c: a version of microsoft windows server and a protocol |
| 17:23.28 | sqlnoob2 | Opps, sorry that is what we call it. Its a Microsoft server 2008 R2 server, that we have setup to host RDP (remote desktop) sessions. Currently our staff can log into the server from anywhere on the network and have the same desktop and files they were working on before. :) |
| 17:23.31 | stuckey | Now eclipse doesn't even work |
| 17:23.35 | nsadmin | so he wants to run that under debian? |
| 17:23.42 | wols | sqlnoob2: so you want a VM that you start on bootup. simple |
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| 17:24.23 | wols | ah, you mean debian as a client. so use a RDP client autostarted |
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| 17:24.44 | sqlnoob2 | wols, hmmmmm maybe that is where I am getting cofused. I don't really consider it a virutal machine... I consider it a linux install, that is running a RPD client, thats connected to windows. I guess it could be considered VM though. :) |
| 17:24.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | he just wants to run rdesktop and not use anything from the debian system |
| 17:25.22 | sqlnoob2 | CutMeOwnThroat: (weird name lol) Yes. So I should be looking at rdesktop? |
| 17:25.25 | nsadmin | so the debian machines would be thin clients |
| 17:25.36 | wols | sqlnoob2: then you shouldn't have said "Boot". a thin client doesn't "boot" into a remote serevr |
| 17:25.42 | sqlnoob2 | nsadmin: yes, that is the idea. Is it crazy or doable? |
| 17:25.53 | wols | doable of course |
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| 17:26.25 | sqlnoob2 | wols: great. Sorry about that. Yes, I want it to book into linux, and then be forced to connect to a remote session. |
| 17:26.25 | wols | tho RDP software is available on any OS so you can do that right now with whatever client you use |
| 17:26.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | sqlnoob2, you just let your users call something like rdesktop -5 -u username -g 98% windows.machine.local.net |
| 17:27.16 | sqlnoob2 | CutMeOwnThroat: Thank you. I think I was over thinking this. The internet makes it seem like you need specific hardware / special expensive software to do it. I had a feeling it wasnt so bad/complicated. |
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| 17:28.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | you could of course make that happen automatically for everyone, but probably some shortcut to make it easier for them to call suffices |
| 17:28.26 | wols | 2008 R2 TS is a microsoft product. its license and the CALs are very expensive. so yes special expensive software |
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| 17:28.49 | sqlnoob2 | CutMeOwnThroat: Well the goal is to make them think they are just on a regular windows machine, but using our powerful server's processors and memory. :) |
| 17:28.50 | wols | wheres LTSP is free |
| 17:29.15 | jelly-hme | only if your time is worthless! |
| 17:29.23 | sqlnoob2 | Wols: We are a school, it only costs a $2.75 a remote client. :) I will look into LTSP though. |
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| 17:29.51 | sqlnoob2 | wols: and as far as I know, the microsoft system is still on the honor system. :/ |
| 17:30.34 | zleap | honor system ??? |
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| 17:30.52 | wols | zleap: it's the only hone MSFT has left I guess |
| 17:31.59 | zleap | ah |
| 17:32.16 | zleap | hone = home I take it |
| 17:32.17 | sqlnoob2 | zleap : yeah, like when you buy exchange 2010 (we have) the software itself is cheap, but the licenses are expensive. But, you dont have to put in the license keys to have 100 users, they just hope you will, be honerable. |
| 17:32.30 | zleap | ah |
| 17:33.02 | sqlnoob2 | they COULD come audit you and get you into trouble though if you are have 200 people in there and only 50 licenses though. |
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| 17:34.27 | adb | sqlnoob2, anyways here is offtopic |
| 17:34.28 | linduxed | i've been using my main drive for / for some time now, but i want to move /home to a new drive that i got |
| 17:34.43 | linduxed | well, it's a volume group made of two drives but whatever |
| 17:34.52 | linduxed | my question is how i do this? |
| 17:34.56 | dazikas | dd |
| 17:35.14 | linduxed | important note, ive only got an ssh connection to work with |
| 17:35.19 | jelly-hme | unlikely, dazikas |
| 17:35.26 | linduxed | i can't do pre-online stuff |
| 17:35.51 | dazikas | uh |
| 17:35.54 | dazikas | zip and ftp? |
| 17:35.55 | dazikas | lol |
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| 17:36.09 | sqlnoob2 | Adb : indeeds sorry he asked. I didnt mean to go into detail. |
| 17:36.11 | linduxed | dazikas: so i copy the current /home to the drive, then mount the drive on top of /home? |
| 17:36.32 | adb | sqlnoob2, /msg dpkg -about fai |
| 17:36.34 | jelly-hme | linduxed: check no processes use /home. Mount new home someplace else, copy all the files, umount, rename /home to /home-old, mkdir /home, mount new home to /home |
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| 17:36.44 | sqlnoob2 | But, it sounds like I should just put debian on a test computer, install xwindows and setup rdesktop and see how it works. :) |
| 17:36.47 | dazikas | uh |
| 17:36.51 | jelly-hme | linduxed: if anything bad happens, you'll still have /home-old |
| 17:36.54 | dazikas | i mighta read the question wrong :P |
| 17:37.01 | stuckey | Anyone know why my eclipse is messed up and wont run programs after trying to install sun java? |
| 17:37.03 | linduxed | jelly-hme: ok i'll try that |
| 17:37.15 | jelly-hme | linduxed: cp -a is typically good enough |
| 17:37.17 | linduxed | jelly-hme: how do i check so that no processes use home? |
| 17:37.23 | linduxed | jelly-hme: rsync -a? |
| 17:37.25 | jelly-hme | linduxed: use lsof. |
| 17:37.29 | dazikas | jelly-hme, it doesn't carry over hardlinks i think |
| 17:37.33 | dazikas | dd does |
| 17:37.46 | jelly-hme | dazikas: YOU CAN'T DD ONE DIRECTORY |
| 17:37.49 | adb | stuckey stop asking same questions on both debian channel, please |
| 17:38.17 | stuckey | adb: i need an answer |
| 17:38.20 | jelly-hme | dazikas: as for the hardlinks, try it and see. |
| 17:39.01 | themill | stuckey: cross posting is rude. It maintains that your time is more valuable than everyone elses. Please desist. |
| 17:39.36 | dazikas | jelly-hme, mebe i am missing smth, but i remember long time ago i read about backups abit and dd was better than cp due to some stuff that it carries over. but anyways :P |
| 17:39.43 | jelly-hme | linduxed: do you have other users on that machine? Disable them from logging in and changing data during the process. Stop all services that might change data on /home (web, ftp, whatever) |
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| 17:40.02 | Gm4n | how can I "refresh" a php session on my server (so it doesn't expire for a while) in php? I believe debian uses a cronjob find to delete things with an old enough date. |
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| 17:40.47 | simonrvn | dazikas: simple is often better. dd just won't work anyway. |
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| 17:40.51 | jelly-hme | linduxed: cron, at, if your users use those |
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| 17:41.14 | dazikas | simonrvn, i do snapshots with dd basically |
| 17:41.19 | thomasp_ | out of a sudden my debian lenny can't resolve hostnames. any ideas what I might do to see why? |
| 17:41.23 | dazikas | u can copy a whole hdd drop the image in another |
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| 17:41.26 | dazikas | and it works |
| 17:41.28 | dazikas | :-) |
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| 17:41.36 | Titan8990 | thomasp_: cat /etc/resolv.con cat /etc/nsswitch.conf |
| 17:41.45 | simonrvn | cat /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 17:41.52 | Titan8990 | yes, without my typo |
| 17:42.35 | thomasp_ | so my nameservers are down I guess? |
| 17:42.50 | Titan8990 | thomasp_: dunno, can you ping them? |
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| 17:42.55 | linduxed | jelly-hme: well i've got one user that uses ssh-keys to log in |
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| 17:43.12 | linduxed | so he doesn't technically "log in" |
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| 17:43.25 | thomasp_ | only the first one. the other two don't respond Titan8990 |
| 17:43.34 | Titan8990 | linduxed: technically, thats a login(1) session |
| 17:43.37 | jelly-hme | linduxed: yes he does. |
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| 17:43.57 | stuckey | No one has any ideas as to how I can fix my eclipse install? |
| 17:43.59 | stuckey | I tried purging |
| 17:44.01 | Titan8990 | thomasp_: well, one should be enough |
| 17:44.01 | stuckey | that didn't do any good |
| 17:44.11 | jelly-hme | linduxed: technically, tell him not to do it during downtime. ;-) |
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| 17:44.42 | linduxed | jelly-hme: ok, ill just call him |
| 17:44.45 | jelly-hme | linduxed: I'd tell you to touch /etc/nologin but then there's a possibility you'll lock yourself out, too |
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| 17:45.24 | linduxed | jelly-hme: however, how would i kill all the processes of his? |
| 17:46.16 | format_c | sqlnoob2, sorry. Was distracted. I see you already got what I want. |
| 17:46.47 | linduxed | jelly-hme: oh wait, ill use sudo htop for that |
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| 17:46.59 | simonrvn | !slay |
| 17:47.00 | dpkg | somebody said slay was a handy utility that sends a given signal (kill by default) to all processes of the given user(s) |
| 17:47.15 | jelly-hme | linduxed: or pkill |
| 17:47.18 | format_c | wols, I thought that the Microsoft thing was meant. Just wanted to make sure. Thanks anyway. |
| 17:48.08 | Titan8990 | simonrvn: nice! |
| 17:48.17 | Titan8990 | was thinking about how he could parse ps to do it |
| 17:48.52 | simonrvn | "he just slays me, he's so funny" get it? |
| 17:49.43 | simonrvn | one lame pun of the day was now issued. try to enjoy the rest of your day. |
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| 17:50.35 | sqlnoob2 | format_c : sorry, what did you want? I am confused. |
| 17:51.20 | format_c | sqlnoob2, don't care. Nevermind. |
| 17:51.35 | sqlnoob2 | format_C : lol, your special. |
| 17:51.58 | format_c | Of course. Everyone is special. |
| 17:52.14 | simonrvn | "you're" special too ;) |
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| 17:53.50 | linduxed | jelly-hme: i just realized i've got a problem, i'm logged in through ssh and zsh logs |
| 17:54.16 | linduxed | jelly-hme: so even if i kill all kinds of stuff, it wont take care of the fact that i need a shell |
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| 17:55.02 | simonrvn | er, yeh |
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| 17:56.09 | linduxed | how do i solve this? |
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| 18:00.59 | jelly-hme | linduxed: trust yourself you won't change your files! |
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| 18:01.25 | jelly-hme | well... you'll lose a bit of your .history |
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| 18:01.29 | thomasp_ | so my dns servers are apparantly up, but I still can't resolve hostnames. what should I do? |
| 18:01.54 | Titan8990 | thomasp_: did /etc/nsswitch.conf look correct? |
| 18:02.22 | thomasp_ | it has: hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 |
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| 18:02.31 | thomasp_ | the other entries look normal |
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| 18:03.18 | Titan8990 | thomasp_: dig @4.2.2.1 google.com |
| 18:03.38 | linduxed | jelly-hme: i take it that zsh wont create a new home just to write that history, and instead will just silently fail? |
| 18:03.57 | thomasp_ | Titan8990: http://pastebin.com/G1rMKELM |
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| 18:07.25 | thomasp_ | Titan8990: I can't see any indication of what might be wrong from the paste :) |
| 18:07.26 | digii | http://pastebin.com/K0p1XgWU |
| 18:07.33 | digii | i got a error in this |
| 18:07.46 | digii | TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'instance' objects |
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| 18:07.48 | digii | in line 15 |
| 18:07.57 | digii | anyone got an idea what that is? |
| 18:08.10 | Titan8990 | thomasp_: yes, now try again with your current nameserver using dig |
| 18:09.13 | mguy | Having trouble installing. Get stuck at 33% every time the partitions are installed. Using entire disk, 120GB IDE drive. 5.04 and 5.03 CD's do the same thing. This system was running another OS fine so the disk -shouldn't- be bad. |
| 18:09.15 | Titan8990 | digii: python isn't bash so paramater expansion doesn't happen. join #python |
| 18:09.39 | digii | Titan8990: haha, man i'm sorry i belived i was there |
| 18:09.42 | digii | so sorry |
| 18:09.57 | Titan8990 | digii: no biggie |
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| 18:12.07 | thomasp_ | Titan8990: it looks as though the first name server has some problems. it has QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0 -- while the other two have QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3 (as the 4.2.2.1 nameserver). should I remove the first one from the resolv-file and reboot to solve it? |
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| 18:13.23 | wols | thomasp_: no need to reboot when changing nameservers |
| 18:14.27 | thomasp_ | wols: ok, I'll just try removing the seemingly faulty one then |
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| 18:15.32 | thomasp_ | Titan8990: removing the faulty one solved the problem. thanks for your help :) |
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| 18:32.33 | sqlnoob2 | blah, my debian install wasnt able to configure my apt-get on install, but after a reboot its pinging things fine. It only installed the standard files. First is there a way to auto setup apt-get again, and second, what do I need to apt-get to get all the base files? |
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| 18:33.03 | wols | sqlnoob2: you already have all the base files |
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| 18:33.27 | sqlnoob2 | wols: well thats good. :) Is there a way to start the apt-get configure again? |
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| 18:33.34 | wols | and no there is not really a way to autosetup it again. /msg dpkg sources.list and msg dpkg mirrors should set you on your way |
| 18:33.52 | sqlnoob2 | blah I hate editing the source list. Flash back to 1999. |
| 18:33.57 | wols | if you want the task selection you possibly got at the end of the install, run "tasksel" |
| 18:34.04 | greedo | anyone know of a way to resize partitions with shutting down |
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| 18:34.31 | wols | sqlnoob2: /msg dpkg apt-setup |
| 18:34.38 | wols | greedo: gparted |
| 18:34.49 | Titan8990 | greedo: only on lvm can you resize a live partition, and only grow it. |
| 18:34.58 | greedo | without* |
| 18:35.17 | Titan8990 | greedo: if the partition can be unmounted while the system is live, then what wols said, although I prefer plain "parted" |
| 18:35.23 | wols | greedo: not doable. you can resize while they're read only but after that you MUST shutdown or dataloss can happen |
| 18:35.55 | Titan8990 | wols: doable with lvm, while mounted :) |
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| 18:36.30 | wols | Titan8990: greedo asked before. and he didn't like the answer then either, so I know there was no lvm :P |
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| 18:36.49 | stuckey | Does anyone know why my eclipse install isn't working? Can anyone help me fix this? |
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| 18:37.13 | wols | stuckey: do you think we're mindreaders? |
| 18:37.16 | Titan8990 | wols: oh! thats my favorite. explain something to someone and watch them ask the same question a hour later hoping for a different answer... |
| 18:37.21 | wols | cause only a mindreader can answer that question |
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| 18:37.34 | wols | more like a day later, but otherwise the same |
| 18:37.37 | Titan8990 | wols: he was told the same thing on oftc... in different wording |
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| 18:37.54 | wols | stuckey, greedo or both? |
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| 18:39.06 | Titan8990 | wols: stuckey |
| 18:39.19 | Titan8990 | wols: 2010-04-15 14:34 < butzE> stuckey: my crystal ball said no |
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| 18:39.53 | wols | ;) |
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| 18:42.01 | Tametomo | Could we get apt-listbugs repackaged in Sid? Ot at least a virtual package for libgettext-ruby1.8 to libruby1.8. It's been broken since libruby1.8 merged lib{dbm,gdbm,readline,openssl}-ruby1.8 into libruby1.8. |
| 18:42.13 | abrotman | Tametomo: did you check the BTS ? |
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| 18:42.43 | Tametomo | Haven't seen a bug for it there. |
| 18:43.12 | Tametomo | Oh, right, now there's one. |
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| 18:43.37 | Titan8990 | if it wasn't there, then its your job as a sid user to file it |
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| 18:47.02 | abrotman | Tametomo: that bug is 10 days old .. how often have you checdked ? |
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| 18:47.23 | jhambo | wols: you mentioned that dd to clone onto a larger hard drive is not ideal. What would be ideal to clone onto a larger hard drive? |
| 18:48.37 | Titan8990 | jhambo: parted maybe? |
| 18:48.48 | wols | jhambo: copy the files? or dd over the partition and increase teh filesystem,etc |
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| 18:49.20 | Tametomo | I checked up on whether the bug was the same day it happened, as well as for a few days afterwards. I assumed at first that it was likely just a temporary sid problem, but it hasn't been resolved for a while. |
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| 18:50.07 | Tametomo | I probably should have checked if there was a bug filed before jumping onto here today, but I suppose I assumed that since there wasn't one for the first few days that it existed, that perhaps it had been forgotten about, and that no one had filed one. |
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| 18:51.43 | Tametomo | Ah, I see what the wait is for now. Alright, I can hold out until 1.9.1 hits the repos. |
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| 19:00.35 | sqlnoob2 | Im at the end of the debian net install, and it says it is having trouble with the mirror, can't seem to connect, although I did it on a computer yesterday just fine. It is connected to the network, it got the ip and everything fine, and is able to ping.... any ideas? |
| 19:00.43 | sqlnoob2 | I tried many different mirrors. |
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| 19:02.00 | nvz | badblocks -sw /dev/hdc would output when it encounters an error? |
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| 19:03.14 | TweakGames | woops sorry disconnected. |
| 19:03.15 | TweakGames | I am back |
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| 19:03.19 | TweakGames | this is sqlnoob2 |
| 19:03.30 | nvz | TweakGames: do you have a specific error? |
| 19:03.43 | nvz | TweakGames: check tty2,3 |
| 19:04.01 | TweakGames | nvz: well last time I just clicked, ignore and went into the OS and tried to do an apt-get update. |
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| 19:04.17 | TweakGames | but it said error (1) (after I put in the correct info manually into the sources) |
| 19:04.35 | TweakGames | but its able to ping things and what not. :/ |
| 19:04.38 | nvz | TweakGames: so you've got a base install then, you're no longer inside the installer? |
| 19:04.50 | TweakGames | well, I decided to try my luck and reinstall again. |
| 19:04.59 | TweakGames | Should I just ignore again and start with the base install? |
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| 19:05.13 | Ghent | I'm sorry, I'm not having much luck with google today, I'm trying to learn how to install a package that I've made, but I have different versions and I want them to be able to be installed at the same time, not a newer version "upgrading" an older one... can anyone point me in the right direction on how to accomplish this? |
| 19:05.24 | nvz | TweakGames: I have no idea if you can't decide on one train of thought and give a specific error, I can't help you |
| 19:05.54 | wols | Ghent: of the same name, only one package can be installed at the same time |
| 19:05.55 | nvz | TweakGames: here is how this works, you encounter a problem, you stay with that proplem, you supply an error message, and we help. |
| 19:06.10 | nvz | Error 1 is not an error message. its an indication that there was an error |
| 19:06.16 | TweakGames | nvz : um ... O.o one train of thought. I am in the process of reinstalling. I dont see any way of fixing this with my 3 optiosn of rety change mirror or ignore, so I am asking you, do you see a way of fixing this with the base installer? |
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| 19:06.21 | themill | Ghent: they have to have different package names in that case |
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| 19:06.28 | Ghent | wols: so I have to change the name of the package in the control file? |
| 19:06.33 | wols | Ghent: yes |
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| 19:06.40 | Ghent | Okay, thank you |
| 19:06.42 | nvz | TweakGames: I can't see a way of fixing a problem I do not know |
| 19:06.44 | wols | TweakGames: just edit your sources.list with an editor |
| 19:06.56 | wols | TweakGames: pastebin your current broken sources.list |
| 19:07.19 | TweakGames | wols: ok, give me one second, I will do it again, and I will post it up. I just took the info out of the dpkg helper. |
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| 19:09.18 | TweakGames | wols: it is empty with # blocking all them. I added deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian lenny main and deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main |
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| 19:10.52 | wols | and the error(s) is? |
| 19:11.28 | nvz | :-P |
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| 19:11.36 | TweakGames | a few of them. |
| 19:11.45 | TweakGames | zxip: stdin: not in gzip format |
| 19:11.51 | TweakGames | gzip sorry |
| 19:12.20 | TweakGames | and err http://ftp.us.debian.org lenny.main packages sub-process gzip returned and error code (1) |
| 19:12.50 | themill | TweakGames: "lenny.main" or "lenny/main"? |
| 19:13.11 | TweakGames | lenny/main sorry typing on netbook lol |
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| 19:15.25 | TweakGames | nvz is that enough error for you? |
| 19:15.56 | nvz | TweakGames: nope. far too much margin of error |
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| 19:16.43 | TweakGames | lol |
| 19:16.46 | nvz | TweakGames: because 1) I know that mirror works and has proper package files, I can test that here, and 2) I dont KNOW you are typing the sources.list and errors properly as you are copying them manually and making mistakes |
| 19:17.06 | nvz | so it suggests to me that you've made a mistake somewhere |
| 19:17.45 | nvz | TweakGames: like left off the trailing slash |
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| 19:17.51 | TweakGames | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian lenny main |
| 19:18.03 | TweakGames | deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/update main |
| 19:18.09 | TweakGames | is in my sources. |
| 19:18.13 | nvz | TweakGames: yeah, the trailing slash is missing |
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| 19:18.32 | TweakGames | ok it wasnt in the dpkg helper. |
| 19:18.33 | TweakGames | bad helper. |
| 19:18.36 | TweakGames | let me try that. |
| 19:18.37 | nvz | lol |
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| 19:18.56 | TweakGames | same error. |
| 19:19.34 | nvz | TweakGames: you are in an installer right now? |
| 19:19.47 | jelly-hme | lenny/updates <- has an s |
| 19:20.15 | jelly-hme | but the first line seems ok |
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| 19:20.40 | TweakGames | fixed, same errors. |
| 19:21.03 | jelly-hme | TweakGames: are you behind a proxy of some sort? |
| 19:22.05 | TweakGames | no |
| 19:22.13 | TweakGames | and this worked yesterday on a different computer. |
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| 19:23.05 | abrotman | TweakGames: try "deb http://debian.osuosl.org/debian/ lenny main" instead of your ftp.us mirror |
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| 19:23.30 | abrotman | wait .. that's in the ftp.us roundrobin |
| 19:24.15 | TweakGames | same thing. |
| 19:24.21 | abrotman | deb http://mirror.its.uidaho.edu/pub/debian/ lenny main |
| 19:24.30 | TweakGames | sub-process gzip returned and error code (1) |
| 19:24.39 | abrotman | TweakGames: can you wget that file ? |
| 19:24.40 | TweakGames | gzip: stdin: not in gzip format |
| 19:25.09 | TweakGames | ummmmm... I dont see it asking for a specific file, let me check. |
| 19:25.13 | abrotman | with the last mirror too ? |
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| 19:25.43 | TweakGames | yes, with the security mirror its askin for a gz file. |
| 19:25.46 | TweakGames | let me try and wget it. |
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| 19:26.45 | TweakGames | abrotman BLAH. |
| 19:27.17 | TweakGames | abrotman, thanks. I nanoed the download of the Packages.gz, and it says Access Denied by Dans guardian. lolol |
| 19:27.20 | TweakGames | wonder why it worked yesterday. |
| 19:27.52 | abrotman | nanoed ? |
| 19:28.04 | abrotman | wait .. isn't dans guardian a proxy ? |
| 19:28.44 | TweakGames | no, its just a safe search thing for our school. |
| 19:28.51 | TweakGames | blocks websites. |
| 19:28.53 | abrotman | judd: info dansguardian |
| 19:28.55 | judd | dansguardian (web, optional): Web content filtering. Version: 2.9.9.4-1+lenny1+b1; Size: 457.6k; Installed: 1972k |
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| 19:29.03 | jelly-hme | TweakGames: dansguardian is, indeed a (transparent) proxy |
| 19:29.09 | TweakGames | oh well, then yes. |
| 19:29.14 | TweakGames | easy way around it? |
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| 19:29.25 | jelly-hme | ask your admin? |
| 19:29.27 | abrotman | DansGuardian requires squid or another similar caching proxy server on your local network. |
| 19:29.28 | nvz | TweakGames: seems your admin decided to block it after yesterday when you were acessing it repeatedly |
| 19:29.30 | TweakGames | lol, I am the admin. |
| 19:29.37 | jelly-hme | turn it off? |
| 19:29.46 | abrotman | turn it all off! |
| 19:29.54 | TweakGames | lol, its protects all our k-5 from pron. |
| 19:30.04 | TweakGames | I will try to whitelist debian.org |
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| 19:30.55 | abrotman | TweakGames: to be fair .. how many kids know what porn is? |
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| 19:31.13 | abrotman | should probably stop now |
| 19:31.30 | nvz | abrotman: I could say the same thing about heroin, but there was a 3rd grader in the news this morning for passing it out at school |
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| 19:33.14 | TweakGames | blah, dans guardian was blocking ALL gz files. :/ |
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| 19:35.26 | TweakGames | abrotman, half of our 2nd graders have face book and ALL our 3 4 and 5th do. |
| 19:35.34 | abrotman | you could block that> |
| 19:35.34 | abrotman | ? |
| 19:35.36 | TweakGames | yay, allowed Gzip files and its workin now. |
| 19:35.38 | JordiGH | I have two Debian boxen, and I like rhythmbox. What's the best way to share the music library? Preferrably with the metadata in ogg tags. |
| 19:35.54 | TweakGames | yeah, was blocking a lot of extra stuff on default I guess. O.o mp3 and mpeg too. weird. |
| 19:36.12 | abrotman | can rhythmbox be a front-end for mpd ? |
| 19:36.29 | TweakGames | yay now I can FINALLY apt-get rdesktop lol. |
| 19:36.31 | JordiGH | lol |
| 19:36.43 | JordiGH | abrotman: Hm, let me see... |
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| 19:38.32 | JordiGH | Oh, nice, there's an Emacs client for mpd. |
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| 19:42.50 | shoe_two | hi, I'm trying to see which package owns a file like this: dpkg -S /etc/postgresql/8.3 |
| 19:43.18 | shoe_two | but it says: dpkg: /etc/postgresql/8.3 not found, so how do I find out what put it there? |
| 19:44.05 | themill | shoe_two: look in the postinst scripts (/var/lib/dpkg/info/*postgres*postinst) |
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| 19:44.22 | TweakGames | is there a simple way to apt-get all the X11 stuff I need for rdesktop? |
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| 19:44.41 | helo | ahh crap... i upgraded sid and my kwallet info is gone |
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| 19:45.22 | helo | surely there is some mechanism that would prevent losing all kwallet info because of a version mismatch/upgrade/etc |
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| 19:54.33 | bpgoldsb | This is kind of a general linux question, but does anyone know of software that will allow me to design an 3D model of an object? I'm planning to build my own entertainment stand for my TV, and I'd like to model it first, if possible. |
| 19:55.27 | rudi_s | bpgoldsb: blender |
| 19:55.35 | rudi_s | !blender |
| 19:55.35 | dpkg | [blender] a free (GNU GPL) cross plaform 3D creation suite, allowing fully integrated modeling, animation, rendering, post production and interactive 3D creation and playback. It is also a scanline renderer with nearly ray-traced quality. http://www.blender.org/ #blenderchat and #blenderqa on irc.freenode.net. |
| 19:55.50 | shoe_two | themill: thanks. that helped. |
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| 19:56.25 | themill | np |
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| 20:05.46 | abrotman | bpgoldsb: there are a few cad programs |
| 20:06.16 | bpgoldsb | abrotman: I tried qcad and pythoncad, both were definately going to require some learning |
| 20:06.23 | abrotman | brlcad ? |
| 20:06.30 | bpgoldsb | Didn't try that |
| 20:09.41 | jimcooncat | abrotman: nice find! http://brlcad.org/gallery/s/renderings/ |
| 20:09.43 | bluequijote | I can not start in x... when it is trying to start my pc freeze and I can not do anything... I just can reboot... but is is same... I want stop xwindow before it could be up |
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| 20:14.18 | abrotman | jimcooncat: what ? |
| 20:14.38 | abrotman | jimcooncat: are you making fun of me? ayuh? |
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| 20:15.04 | abrotman | brlcad isn't in debian .. but there are a few others |
| 20:15.09 | jimcooncat | nope, not today. you turned me onto a cad program I didn't know about. so I thank you |
| 20:15.27 | abrotman | i forget why brlcad isn't in debian |
| 20:15.53 | abrotman | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=289632 |
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| 20:18.42 | jimcooncat | freshmeat has a thread saying there's no one maintianing a debian package, and it requirec an old glibc |
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| 20:20.08 | jelly-hme | what, the source... required... an old glibc? |
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| 20:21.21 | nsadmin | more likely the binary was never rebuilt and still required the old libc |
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| 20:23.20 | bzed | abrotman: one of the main probles is that it comes with half of debian as source copies in their source |
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| 20:32.11 | abiko | Hello everybody! I have a question about limitng user accounts shell access |
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| 20:32.22 | abiko | What would you recommend that I do about it? |
| 20:32.51 | krunk- | last time I used debian, I seem to remember a set of helper utils for apache2 that would enable/disable sites and such. I've been looking thorugh the list of installed files by the apache2 debs, but not finding it. |
| 20:32.56 | krunk- | Am I imagining things? |
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| 20:33.48 | shylent | a2ensite, a2dissite |
| 20:34.05 | shylent | also, a2enmod, a2dismod (if i remember correctly) |
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| 20:34.30 | OldParr | is there a GUI for cron-apt? |
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| 20:34.45 | nsadmin | why would there be? |
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| 20:34.52 | krunk- | shylent: thanks, man |
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| 20:36.50 | shylent | krunk-: you are welcome :) |
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| 20:37.47 | OldParr | where is the cron-apt complete manual? |
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| 20:37.56 | nsadmin | man cron-apt? |
| 20:38.54 | nsadmin | are you sure you want to upgrade packages and not know they're being upgraded? |
| 20:39.08 | ham5 | hell yea |
| 20:39.09 | ham5 | ! |
| 20:39.13 | OldParr | nsadmin: yes |
| 20:39.34 | nsadmin | , pciid 1002:791e |
| 20:39.36 | judd | [1002:791e] is 'RS690 [Radeon X1200 Series]' from 'ATI Technologies Inc' with kernel module 'ati-agp' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1002:791e http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary and the out-of-tree 'fglrx' module. |
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| 20:41.32 | g00se | "wodim: Cannot load media. |
| 20:41.50 | g00se | is what i get when trying to make DVD-RW images |
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| 20:44.41 | snowsnakes | Hey, I keep having a problem with the network dropping out on me |
| 20:45.01 | snowsnakes | this is a pretty fresh install |
| 20:45.06 | nsadmin | everyone has that problem |
| 20:45.07 | snowsnakes | LAMP test server |
| 20:45.14 | snowsnakes | and every now and then the network just totally drops |
| 20:45.20 | snowsnakes | really? |
| 20:45.32 | nsadmin | does it come back by itself? |
| 20:45.37 | snowsnakes | nope, dead |
| 20:45.41 | blizzow | I think the libgtk2.0-0_2.20.0-2_amd64.deb is broken in squeeze. |
| 20:45.45 | snowsnakes | i have to do a hard shutdown |
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| 20:45.58 | snowsnakes | mine's intel 32-bit |
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| 20:46.01 | blizzow | Is anyone else having trouble with gtk apps after installing it? |
| 20:46.11 | nsadmin | what happens when you do /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 20:46.22 | snowsnakes | I can't SSH into the box, so I don't know |
| 20:46.45 | nsadmin | what distance are you from it? |
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| 20:47.21 | sung | is it safe to say that everyone running debian stable and clamav isn't getting or possibly sending email anymore? :P |
| 20:47.23 | nsadmin | 2 feet? a thousand lightyears? |
| 20:47.48 | snowsnakes | 18 inches |
| 20:48.02 | nsadmin | oh, is it headless? |
| 20:48.05 | snowsnakes | yeah |
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| 20:48.24 | snowsnakes | I can hook a monitor/kb up to it now, but I still have to hard reboot and wait for it to happen again |
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| 20:48.51 | Svenska | hi. anyone knows why xdm segfaults when the wrong password is entered? |
| 20:48.55 | snowsnakes | I recall doing network restart last time I had a head on it, but I still had to issue a shutdown |
| 20:48.59 | nsadmin | why do you have to hard reboot if it's just the networking that goes out? |
| 20:49.07 | snowsnakes | because it |
| 20:49.08 | Matic`Makovec | Hey. I'd need an idea how to track why application immidiately after start stops. There's no log produced. Any idea on the matter? |
| 20:49.09 | snowsnakes | 's headless |
| 20:49.38 | nsadmin | so, what happens when you connect monitor/kbd to it now? |
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| 20:50.10 | Svenska | it segfaults at 1 ip b757e9fb sp bfa1c1f4 error 4 in libc-2.10.2.so[b750b000+141000] on debian squeeze/sid as of today |
| 20:50.21 | snowsnakes | nothing because the keybaord isn't recognized |
| 20:50.39 | snowsnakes | if there is no keyboard at POST, plugging one in afterwards means it won't work |
| 20:50.49 | Svenska | graphics driver is openchrome, graphics hardware is Via VX800 / Chrom9 series |
| 20:51.24 | nsadmin | get it a keyboard :) |
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| 20:51.52 | Svenska | Matic`Makovec: what do you want to know in detail more? |
| 20:51.56 | nsadmin | leave the keyboard plugged in |
| 20:52.06 | snowsnakes | right right |
| 20:52.10 | nsadmin | because you're debugging it at the moment |
| 20:52.13 | snowsnakes | are there any logs I can check? |
| 20:52.32 | nsadmin | after you're done debugging it because the problem's solved, |
| 20:52.40 | nsadmin | keep the kbd plugged in |
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| 20:53.27 | nsadmin | I'd look at /var/log/messages syslog klog |
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| 20:53.40 | Svenska | the logfile /var/log/xdm.log states: xdm error (pid 1575): pam_authenticate failure: Authentication failure |
| 20:53.44 | Matic`Makovec | Svenska, I'm trying to sv start something. |
| 20:54.04 | Svenska | xdm error (pid 1558): Unknown session exit code 2816 from process 1575 |
| 20:54.15 | Svenska | XIO: fatail IO error 11 [...] |
| 20:54.20 | Svenska | and so on |
| 20:54.46 | Svenska | happens reliable when entering a wrong password, works as expected with correct password |
| 20:55.03 | Matic`Makovec | Svenska, ispwebadmin, if I'm being exact |
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| 20:55.33 | OldParr | which variable at cron-apt configuration file should i set to make cron-apt install packages automatically |
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| 20:57.32 | Svenska | Matic`Makovec: what do you mean? |
| 20:57.39 | Svenska | managing my email accounts? |
| 20:57.43 | Matic`Makovec | Svenska, yeah |
| 20:57.47 | Svenska | why? |
| 20:59.16 | Svenska | soneone can give me a hint? |
| 20:59.47 | Svenska | is it a new bug or is it known? is there a workaround? |
| 20:59.48 | Matic`Makovec | Svenska, I'm not really sure what you're asking but okay. I'm just testing the software people made. |
| 21:00.15 | Svenska | i asked if someone knows about this - apparently nobody |
| 21:00.36 | Svenska | so i wanted to know what i should do to help people actually fix this bug or at least understand what it does |
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| 21:01.32 | Svenska | both pids mentioned are "xdm" in ps |
| 21:01.46 | dondelelcaro | Svenska: turn on coredumps, and run gdb on them to get a backtrace |
| 21:01.55 | Svenska | how? |
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| 21:02.43 | dondelelcaro | Svenska: add a ulimit -c unlimited; to /etc/init.d/xdm; before it is started, and then see what is going on |
| 21:02.46 | nsadmin | for a debian bug to be known, it would be listed in the bts |
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| 21:02.55 | dondelelcaro | Svenska: there probably is also be listed in bugs.debian.org/xdm if it's a known bug |
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| 21:03.27 | nsadmin | brb |
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| 21:05.34 | Svenska | can i somehow create the dumps in /tmp ? |
| 21:05.52 | Svenska | the netbook only has a 2 gb hard drive, so i'm quite tight there... |
| 21:07.10 | Svenska | "gdb xdm" reports "Program existed normally", even earlier than the x-server being run |
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| 21:07.19 | Svenska | it doesn't notice the crash at all |
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| 21:11.13 | zaltekk | does anyone know of a program like tsocks that supports UDP with SOCKS5? |
| 21:11.22 | zaltekk | i have two network connections at my apartment that are both accessed wirelessly(i use a laptop). i have a desktop with two NICs, and I want to be able to tunnel all of my downloads through the desktop to the second internet connection. that way, the downloads can use the faster connection, while i browse the web and use irc from the slower connection |
| 21:11.27 | zaltekk | however, most of my downloads are over bittorrent, so while I am able to contact the tracker with tsocks wrapping my bittorrent client, i am unable to download anything. any ideas? |
| 21:11.31 | Svenska | anyway, someone who can tell me what to do? |
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| 21:15.21 | Svenska | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=576360 |
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| 21:15.44 | Svenska | not propagated to testing yet |
| 21:15.49 | stuckey | Where do I find the files for making a usb bootable stick to install debian with? |
| 21:16.06 | Svenska | you can use the debian netinstall files |
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| 21:16.14 | stuckey | Svenska: where are those? |
| 21:16.22 | Svenska | give me a moment please :) |
| 21:16.27 | stuckey | ok |
| 21:16.40 | Svenska | http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/lenny/main/installer-i386/current/images/hd-media/ |
| 21:16.57 | Svenska | the boot.img.gz is the file you are looking for |
| 21:17.08 | Svenska | you need the ISO file to install from as well on the usb device |
| 21:17.14 | pngwn | stuckey, debian.org/doc in the installation manual, gives directions |
| 21:17.15 | stuckey | Svenska: yeah I downloaded the cd iso |
| 21:17.24 | EagleRock | here's the info in the manual: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apas02.html#howto-getting-images-usb |
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| 21:17.43 | jhutchins_lt | zaltekk: Why torrents don't work is usually up to a poor client, but there shouldn't be any problem launching the torrents on the desktop from an ssh session. |
| 21:17.48 | Svenska | http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/de.i386/apas02.html#howto-getting-images-usb << or in german |
| 21:18.07 | sanmarcos | hello, I am trying to install this package but I get this problem |
| 21:18.08 | sanmarcos | http://pastie.caboo.se/922032 |
| 21:18.18 | sanmarcos | I have no idea where that â3 version came from |
| 21:18.29 | sanmarcos | I want to instal libbz2-dev but I can't because of that issue |
| 21:18.31 | stuckey | Svenska: i don't need the other two files? |
| 21:18.38 | Svenska | no, they are included in the image |
| 21:18.40 | sanmarcos | this is on lenny |
| 21:18.41 | zaltekk | jhutchins_lt: the problem is that i don't have either (1) a bittorrent clien that support socks for more than just the tracker or (2) a wrapper program like tsocks that supports udp |
| 21:18.46 | Svenska | just follow the tutorial / manual |
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| 21:19.03 | stuckey | pngwn: i don't understand what it is talking about |
| 21:19.04 | jhutchins_lt | judd: versions libbz2 |
| 21:19.05 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'libbz2' was found. |
| 21:19.14 | stuckey | Svenska: I can't understand it |
| 21:19.24 | Svenska | do you have a linux system ready? |
| 21:19.25 | kurkale6ka | Hi, how can I ensure that my .bash_profile will be sourced at login time? |
| 21:19.28 | sanmarcos | judd: versions libbz2-1.0 |
| 21:19.30 | judd | libbz2-1.0 -- etch: 1.0.3-6; lenny: 1.0.5-1; sid: 1.0.5-4; squeeze: 1.0.5-4 |
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| 21:19.39 | stuckey | I'm getting conflicting information. The tutorial says something different than what you say, Svenska |
| 21:19.57 | sanmarcos | how can I get back the lenny version? |
| 21:19.57 | stuckey | It says I need vmlinuz and initrd.gz, and nothing about boot.img.gz |
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| 21:20.46 | sanmarcos | I just downloaded the stable version from packages.debian.org and I am trying to install it |
| 21:20.59 | jhutchins_lt | sanmarcos: It looks like the problem is that the -dev package isn't up to date. |
| 21:21.39 | sanmarcos | bzip2: Depends: libbz2-1.0 (= 1.0.5-3) but 1.0.5-1 is installed |
| 21:21.49 | sanmarcos | how can that happen if 1.0.5-1 is the version on lenny? |
| 21:21.51 | kurkale6ka | How can I install a fr_FR locale? |
| 21:21.59 | Svenska | sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 21:22.47 | jhutchins_lt | sanmarcos: Messing around with squeze or sid sources. |
| 21:23.02 | sanmarcos | jthomas_sb: I didnt mess around iwth it |
| 21:23.17 | jthomas_sb | i nevre said that you did |
| 21:23.21 | jhutchins_lt | sanmarcos: What I'd do is uninstall libbz2-1.0 and re-install it so it'll fall back to the correct version and be in sync with the available -dev. |
| 21:23.36 | jhutchins_lt | sanmarcos: Or you could figure out where you got the updated package from and get the -dev from there. |
| 21:23.37 | sanmarcos | bzip2 is out of sync |
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| 21:24.06 | jhutchins_lt | No, I show it as 1.0.5-1 on my system. |
| 21:24.09 | sanmarcos | not my server, so I have no idea jthomas_sb |
| 21:24.12 | jhutchins_lt | Consistent with lenny. |
| 21:24.16 | sanmarcos | I don't where this guy got the â3 version from |
| 21:24.20 | przemoc | hi, what have changed in squeeze, that after upgrade from lenny and invoking: fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image kernel_headers in kernel sources and installing newly created kernel-image initrd wasn't created? |
| 21:24.21 | jhutchins_lt | sanmarcos: I am not jthomas_sb |
| 21:24.31 | jthomas_sb | sanmarcos this is not my conver4sation |
| 21:24.36 | sanmarcos | I just fixed it by downgranding from packages.debian.org jhutchins |
| 21:25.09 | sanmarcos | thank you! |
| 21:25.24 | TweakGames | ok, I just download kde for 2 hours lol. apt-get it, no errors, but still startx does nothing. Anybody know what I could be missing now? |
| 21:25.40 | jhutchins_lt | TweakGames: Try startkde. |
| 21:25.44 | TweakGames | alrighty. |
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| 21:25.52 | TweakGames | wow |
| 21:25.57 | jhutchins_lt | worked? |
| 21:25.58 | TweakGames | cannot connect to X server. |
| 21:25.58 | przemoc | and other question, is there any decent pdf viewer allowing showing advanced page on the first screen, and current on the second one? |
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| 21:26.04 | TweakGames | its repeating it like 100 times. |
| 21:26.20 | TweakGames | jhutchins, thanks though for helping. |
| 21:26.20 | kurkale6ka | How can I know what is my login manager? |
| 21:26.24 | jhutchins_lt | TweakGames: dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 21:26.27 | TweakGames | kk |
| 21:26.30 | jhutchins_lt | Sorry, I gotta go. |
| 21:26.53 | przemoc | I like evince but it is so feature-less... okular has support for the second screen, but show the same page... |
| 21:26.56 | Agiofws | hello |
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| 21:27.16 | Agiofws | is there a version of wine + dot net 2 frame work ? |
| 21:27.17 | arcsky | which is the biggets open source compeitor to MS active direcoty ? |
| 21:27.21 | TweakGames | jutchins, unable to open displays, dpkg-reconfigure kde didnt do anything. |
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| 21:28.35 | TweakGames | oh woops, maybe I shouldn have apt-get it. The kde website shows it as a different way of installing it. |
| 21:28.40 | g00se | I lost my connection :( "wodim: Cannot load media" is what i get when trying to make DVD-RW images. What exactly does this mean? |
| 21:28.49 | TweakGames | installgui tasks="kde-desktop, standard" |
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| 21:29.58 | TweakGames | nevermind, I just installed kde, not kde-desktop, downloading that again. O.o |
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| 21:31.57 | kurkale6ka | Hi, how can I ensure that my .bash_profile is sourced at login time? |
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| 21:38.24 | mon8 | kurkale6ka: put a line at the end of the file: echo "ran" > ~/it_ran |
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| 21:39.21 | themill | always thought that was what "echo; fortune; echo" was for at the end of .bash_profile |
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| 21:40.13 | sanmarcos | is libdvdcss in debian? |
| 21:41.04 | themill | dpkg: tell sanmarcos about search |
| 21:41.22 | sanmarcos | ok |
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| 21:43.54 | kurkale6ka | mon8: so I need create a file named it_ran? |
| 21:44.09 | PlItS | any sugestions on how to check all folders on their size and sort all folders that are more then 100Mb of capacity |
| 21:44.30 | mon8 | actually running a program which generates a message is easier |
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| 21:45.11 | mon8 | echo it ran ar fortune as themill said |
| 21:45.19 | mon8 | ^or |
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| 21:47.27 | kurkale6ka | mon8: I use fortune, but it is the first line of my .bash_profile |
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| 21:50.31 | mon8 | im having sticky screen button since i upgraded to lenny, meaning no wakeup when i shut-the-open the laptop on battery |
| 21:50.59 | jthomas_sb | "shut-the-open the laptop on battery" ? |
| 21:51.03 | mon8 | ^shut-then-open |
| 21:51.09 | jthomas_sb | ah |
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| 21:52.22 | mon8 | should i look in /etc/acpi? |
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| 21:54.28 | ZeZu | can anyone tell me the path/name of the text mode install kernel on the mini/net install disc ? i'm trying to install over serial and I can't see most of the menu for isolinux unf. |
| 21:54.45 | ZeZu | debian lenny amd64 netinst. |
| 21:55.14 | ZeZu | going to see if it will let me use console=ttyS0,115200n8 |
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| 22:05.19 | ZeZu | install worked, thought that was the graphical version |
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| 22:08.54 | g00se | mplayer is silent for mp3 but not for wav. Why - am i missing optional packages? |
| 22:10.27 | ZeZu | seems likely |
| 22:10.43 | ZeZu | try enabling restricted and adding some of the nonfree packages |
| 22:10.55 | ZeZu | wiki has all of the info |
| 22:11.14 | adb | ZeZu, restricted ? you run ubuntu ? |
| 22:11.16 | jhambo | I have a bunch of mp3s that are tagged by they are all in one directory. Is there a simple program that will automatically make directories for Artists and Albums and then put the mp3s in the appropriate directories? |
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| 22:13.00 | themill | jhambo: krename can do that |
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| 22:13.49 | stuckey | which pakages do I have to install to get a basic xserver? |
| 22:13.56 | stuckey | i want to run wmii instead of gnome or metacity or whateer |
| 22:14.18 | adb | stuckey, you run debian ? |
| 22:14.22 | stuckey | adb: yes |
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| 22:15.34 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:17.59 | themill | stuckey: perhaps you need help to confine yourself to one channel rather than always asking both here an on oftc and getting as many people running after you as possible |
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| 22:19.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | jhambo, picard |
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| 22:25.10 | TweakGames | Hello again. I just got kde working. yay. Now when it boots, is it going to boot into kde each time? |
| 22:25.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | !wdyti, TweakGames |
| 22:25.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | !wdyti |
| 22:25.47 | dpkg | Why don't you try it? |
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| 22:28.45 | TweakGames | CutMeOwnThroat: I'm scared. :D |
| 22:29.00 | TweakGames | but, wow, rdesktop really works well. Even plays youtube videos well. |
| 22:29.41 | jhambo | thanks |
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| 22:29.53 | TweakGames | Playing a youtube video uses up about half of the 100mb network hehe. ut ohs. |
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| 22:42.40 | Agiofws | hello |
| 22:42.57 | Agiofws | can someone help me i have a serious problem with my debian box ... |
| 22:43.15 | dondelelcaro | !tell Agiofws -about ask |
| 22:43.17 | Agiofws | something is keeping my CPU spinning fast ... |
| 22:43.43 | dondelelcaro | Agiofws: run top and/or powertop and/or ps; to see what that is. |
| 22:43.53 | stuckey | aptitude update && aptitude install aptitude linux-image-`uname -r | sed 's,.*-,,'` ; <--- dpkg says to do that to upgrade from lenny to squeeze but that gives me weird output |
| 22:44.00 | stuckey | how to i upgrdae from lenny to queeze |
| 22:44.11 | Agiofws | upload-new-file about 6 instances of " upload-new-file " |
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| 22:44.31 | TweakGames | lol does anybody know how to exit rdesktop when its in full screen? |
| 22:44.44 | Agiofws | $lsof | grep upload-new-file |
| 22:44.48 | Agiofws | upload-ne 5836 agiofws 255r REG 8,5 5788 116107 /usr/share/garmin-upload-tools/scripts/garmin-motionbased/upload-new-files-to-mb.sh |
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| 22:44.55 | stuckey | http://paste.debian.net/69097/ |
| 22:44.58 | stuckey | why the fuck do I get this? |
| 22:45.00 | stuckey | remove gnome? |
| 22:45.02 | stuckey | that makes no sense |
| 22:45.09 | Agiofws | 1) wtf is making that run automaticaly ? |
| 22:45.35 | Agiofws | i need help here its the first time it feels that linux is acting like windows |
| 22:45.46 | stuckey | you're not the only one |
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| 22:46.04 | Agiofws | i kill it and its re appearing all the time |
| 22:46.49 | stuckey | will someone please tell me how I can upgrade to squeeze? |
| 22:47.02 | stuckey | what dpkg gives doesn't work |
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| 22:47.34 | stuckey | Should I jsut not do what dpkgsays? |
| 22:48.01 | Agiofws | can someone help me i have a serious problem with my debian box ... something is keeping my CPU spinning fast ... upload-new-file about 6 instances of " upload-new-file " lsof | grep upload-new-file upload-ne 5836 agiofws 255r REG 8,5 5788 116107 /usr/share/garmin-upload-tools/scripts/garmin-motionbased/upload-new-files-to-mb.sh 1) wtf is making that run automaticaly ? i kill it and its re appe |
| 22:48.03 | Agiofws | aring all the time need help here its the first time it feels that linux is acting like windows |
| 22:49.03 | stuckey | HELLO? |
| 22:49.15 | icebrain | !lenny->squeeze |
| 22:49.24 | icebrain | ah, dammit |
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| 22:50.20 | Warp4 | hi all |
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| 22:50.27 | icebrain | hi Warp4 |
| 22:50.34 | Agiofws | can someone help me i have a serious problem with my debian box ... something is keeping my CPU spinning fast ... upload-new-file about 6 instances of " upload-new-file " lsof | grep upload-new-file upload-ne 5836 agiofws 255r REG 8,5 5788 116107 /usr/share/garmin-upload-tools/scripts/garmin-motionbased/upload-new-files-to-mb.sh 1) wtf is making that run automaticaly ? i kill it and its re appe |
| 22:50.36 | Agiofws | aring all the time need help here its the first time it feels that linux is acting like windows |
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| 22:51.05 | Warp4 | i am wanting to use cacti to monitor the interfaces (traffic) and have snmp installed but not able to get any data back from trrdtool |
| 22:51.09 | icebrain | Agiofws: |
| 22:51.18 | icebrain | Agiofws: sorry. Do you have a Garmin GPS? |
| 22:51.32 | Agiofws | connected to the pc no |
| 22:51.34 | Agiofws | i dont |
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| 22:52.23 | icebrain | Agiofws: I don't mean right now, but have you plugged one? Because that package (garmin-upload-tools) seems to be a collection of scripts to gather data from thsoe devices |
| 22:52.25 | icebrain | *those |
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| 23:02.46 | PlItS | how can i forward every connection to a specific ip and port to a specific ip and port |
| 23:03.32 | fefo | http://www.google.sk/search?hl=sk&source=hp&q=how+can+i+forward+every+connection+to+a+specific+ip+and+port+to+a+specific+ip+and+port&btnG=H%C4%BEada%C5%A5+v+Google&meta= |
| 23:03.56 | icebrain | PlItS: you can also try ##networking |
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| 23:11.46 | salvin | PlItS: http://netfilter.org/documentation/index.html#documentation-howto |
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| 23:12.00 | extor | I just installed the xtables addons package in squeeze and got this error: http://pastebin.com/PJrVccPy while loading an old ruleset. Is the path to the databases hardcoded in the package binary now or is there possibly a text config file I can alter? Or perhaps I should just create that directory and copy the databases? |
| 23:12.11 | extor | speaking of netfilter lol |
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| 23:18.45 | Titan8990 | extor: check BTS, make sure you have read the docs and have not misconfigured something. if both of those run clean, file a report |
| 23:19.29 | extor | I just cp -Red the files. Problem fixed. |
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| 23:26.17 | _Maru_ | how do i check what's using one of my ports? |
| 23:26.39 | PinkFreud | netstat -lp or lsof |
| 23:26.40 | Titan8990 | _Maru_: netstat |
| 23:27.12 | rvsjoen | not necessarily the -l switch of netstat tho |
| 23:27.24 | _Maru_ | that one only gives the port is being used... not whats using it |
| 23:27.39 | rvsjoen | _maru_: netstat with -p needs to run as root |
| 23:27.46 | rvsjoen | to display the processes |
| 23:28.38 | _Maru_ | o thanks |
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| 23:29.10 | PinkFreud | rvsjoen: -l to show what's listening. |
| 23:30.39 | Titan8990 | I am sure he knows what it is. He was likely meaning that the question didn't refer only to listening services |
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| 23:34.34 | dima202 | Hi, I'm trying to install using apt-get but i am getting dependencies have not been met, how can i make apt-get meet those dependncies and install the app? |
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| 23:35.45 | chellomere | dima202, what's the exact error you're getting? can you put it in a pastebin? |
| 23:36.00 | dima202 | ok 1 min please |
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| 23:39.42 | FriedrichMan | hey there everyone |
| 23:40.27 | FriedrichMan | I am trying to install debian in an old Pentium 3 and I have some issues cause it doesn't recognize my wireless network adapter |
| 23:40.40 | FriedrichMan | anyone a clue on what i should do? |
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| 23:41.47 | F00L | hello, quite emergency problem, how to disconnected every users connected through ssh from a server please ? |
| 23:42.26 | crazyhorses | http://pastebin.org/152888 |
| 23:42.40 | dima202 | thats me |
| 23:42.49 | dima202 | http://pastebin.org/152888 |
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| 23:44.14 | F00L | please guys, i can't find how to do that on the internet |
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| 23:45.17 | dima202 | chellomere: what do you think? http://pastebin.org/152888 can i fix it? |
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| 23:46.20 | chellomere | dima202, you're on maemo? |
| 23:46.24 | Tramp | F00L: probably "killall sshd" to kill the daemon and all session. Then restart the daemon |
| 23:46.47 | dima202 | :) yeah, it's for my phone |
| 23:47.07 | chellomere | dima202, and the answer is probably no, but you should ask the maemo people about that, we only support debian in here |
| 23:47.11 | gce | F00L: do touch /etc/nologin and then kill off the existing ssh connecitons |
| 23:47.25 | dima202 | it's based on debian |
| 23:47.30 | dima202 | ok, thanks anywyas |
| 23:47.36 | jelly-hme | F00L: are you connected via ssh as well? |
| 23:47.59 | chellomere | dima202, yes indeed, but we can only support debian in here. |
| 23:48.04 | jelly-hme | if (yes) {be careful;} |
| 23:48.22 | F00L | jelly-hme, yes i am |
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| 23:48.47 | jelly-hme | careful not to lock yourself out |
| 23:48.49 | Tramp | F00L: then killall -i and don't kill yourself off |
| 23:49.00 | F00L | thx |
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| 23:50.13 | Tramp | unless you want that, because you explicitely said "all users" which would include yourself. |
| 23:50.22 | gce | F00L: then I don't recommend using touch /etc/nologin .... I'd modify sshd_config and set the AllowUsers parameter ... confirm that you can login again and then kill off all other ssh connections |
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