| 00:00.04 | demeter | Vasistha: how do i fix that? |
| 00:00.16 | icebrain | Titan8990: who needs bash when there's zsh? :D |
| 00:01.11 | Vasistha | demeter: hmm. can you post a screenshot so we can get a better idea? Also pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 00:01.36 | th1_ | is it a hopeless mission to get MythTV 0.23 on Lenny? |
| 00:02.12 | Titan8990 | ,versions mythtv |
| 00:02.14 | judd | mythtv -- etch-multimedia: 0.21-0.11etch1; lenny-multimedia: 0.22+fixes20100218-0.0lenny1; squeeze-multimedia: 0.22+fixes20100218-0.1; sid-multimedia: 0.23~rc2-0.3 |
| 00:02.28 | Titan8990 | ,depends mythtv --release sid |
| 00:02.28 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'mythtv' was found in sid/i386. |
| 00:02.42 | demeter | Vasistha: could i record a video some how? |
| 00:02.47 | demeter | i dont think a single picture would help... |
| 00:03.14 | Vasistha | demeter: no, I don't mean a photograph. I mean a software screenshot ... use ksnapshot or something |
| 00:03.43 | tryggvib | can anybody help me with locales... I'm a bit lost in why I can't do anything on my system (from what I see my locales are all screwed up) |
| 00:04.09 | demeter | Vasistha: yes, that's what i meant, but i dont think that if i take a single screenshot of the screen it will help you much. |
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| 00:04.17 | Titan8990 | ,verisons libqt4-dbus |
| 00:04.25 | Vasistha | demeter: unless... well I dunno, it's difficult to know exactly what the problem is. I know, to you it is "flickering" but to me, the word "flickering" could describe several different things. My suspicion is dithering at the moment, and a software screenshot may shed some light on that suspicion |
| 00:04.35 | tryggvib | doing locale-gen en_GB.UTF-8 gets killed and it mixes en_US.UTF-8 into the output |
| 00:04.52 | demeter | Vasistha: the darkness of the grey areas of Iceweasel changes rapidly every half-second |
| 00:05.15 | demeter | probably less often than half-second |
| 00:05.25 | jelly-home | epileptic ice weasel |
| 00:06.12 | demeter | Vasistha: strobe-light sort of effect. it's not really noticeable, but if you look closely you'll see it doing an effect such as that. |
| 00:06.46 | Vasistha | demeter: well, I am still wondering if it is because of dithering. Do you know what dithering is? |
| 00:07.11 | tryggvib | hmmm... I can't install anything on my system because of the locales issue |
| 00:07.47 | abrotman | tryggvib: paste.debian.net ? |
| 00:07.48 | demeter | Vasistha: has to do with screen resolution/color? |
| 00:08.02 | Vasistha | demeter: I guess that's a "no". |
| 00:08.28 | Vasistha | demeter: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dither#Digital_photography_and_image_processing |
| 00:09.14 | tryggvib | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/70950/ |
| 00:09.45 | abrotman | tryggvib: i don't think that's killing the system |
| 00:09.52 | demeter | Vasistha: ah |
| 00:10.01 | demeter | Vasistha: i've seen this sort of stuff before. photoshop tho. |
| 00:10.09 | tryggvib | abrotman: hmmm... have any idea what might be killing it? |
| 00:10.09 | demeter | Vasistha: how would i fix? |
| 00:10.16 | abrotman | tryggvib: you can't run locale-gen though ? |
| 00:10.34 | Vasistha | demeter: well, might this be the trouble? A screenshot might help us determine whether it is. |
| 00:10.57 | demeter | Vasistha: whats the screenshot command again |
| 00:11.00 | tryggvib | abrotman: nope... locale-gen doesn't work either |
| 00:11.33 | abrotman | brand new install ? |
| 00:11.36 | Vasistha | demeter: erm, there's a hotkey for it I think, or a way to do it with X ... I usually just use ksnapshot, which is part of KDE if you're using that |
| 00:12.10 | demeter | Vasistha: i'm using fluxbox |
| 00:12.13 | demeter | and x |
| 00:12.18 | abrotman | import -window root screenshot.jpg |
| 00:12.21 | tryggvib | abrotman: well I was hoping to fix it without brand new install |
| 00:12.26 | Vasistha | demeter: http://tips.webdesign10.com/how-to-take-a-screenshot-on-ubuntu-linux |
| 00:12.33 | abrotman | useless |
| 00:12.41 | abrotman | tryggvib: no, i'm asking if it is a new install |
| 00:12.55 | tryggvib | abrotman: aaa... yes on a virtual server |
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| 00:13.28 | tryggvib | I was playing around with gforge (fusionforge) wanted to test it... installed it and now everything's screwed |
| 00:13.46 | Vasistha | demeter: alt-printscreen looks like a good way ... then you've gotta paste it into an image editor |
| 00:14.18 | abrotman | tryggvib: what's in /etc/locale.gen ? |
| 00:14.59 | tryggvib | a lot of commented out locales and then: en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 |
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| 00:15.33 | demeter | Vasistha: http://www.uppimg.com/97VO280.jpg |
| 00:15.41 | Lemon_BE | I'm having trouble finding out which debian version my server has |
| 00:15.44 | Vasistha | demeter: at any rate, if we determine that the problem is due to dithering, the next step would be to check the color depth, by examining /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 00:15.55 | Lemon_BE | /etc/debian_version shows 4.0 |
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| 00:16.09 | abrotman | Lemon_BE: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 00:16.20 | Lemon_BE | but /proc/version shows Linux version 2.6.26-2-openvz-686 (Debian 2.6.26-15lenny3) (dannf@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-25)) #1 SMP Thu May 28 17:08:31 UTC 2009 |
| 00:16.22 | abrotman | tryggvib: so what is the error for localegen ? |
| 00:16.33 | demeter | Vasistha: Xorg.0.log is a large file. where would i find color depth? |
| 00:16.44 | Vasistha | demeter: grep -i depth Xorg.0.log |
| 00:16.59 | abrotman | xdpyinfo if X is running |
| 00:17.03 | Titan8990 | Lemon_BE: that is the version of your host's kernel if you are in an openvz guest. The guest could still be any linux os |
| 00:17.10 | Titan8990 | !tell Lemon_BE about version |
| 00:17.14 | Lemon_BE | 2.3.6.ds1-13etch9+b1 |
| 00:17.15 | Vasistha | demeter: if you've got a pixel depth of 16 bits or higher, then dithering is probably not an issue |
| 00:17.19 | Lemon_BE | so i guess the 4.0 is correct |
| 00:17.26 | demeter | Vasistha: Pixel depth = 24 bits stored in 4 bytes (32 bpp pixmaps) |
| 00:17.31 | abrotman | Lemon_BE: sounds like you're halfway between them |
| 00:17.41 | tryggvib | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/70951/ |
| 00:17.48 | Lemon_BE | so any etch tutorial should work for me? |
| 00:17.49 | Titan8990 | Lemon_BE: hosting providers have been known to provide poor images with modified packages or w/e else |
| 00:17.55 | Lemon_BE | since its a minor releaase update from 4.0? |
| 00:17.59 | Vasistha | demeter: I'm curious -- do you see the flickering within the image you posted on uppimg? |
| 00:18.08 | demeter | Vasistha: nope |
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| 00:18.18 | abrotman | demeter: laptop? desktop ? |
| 00:18.32 | Vasistha | demeter: oh, that's interesting. |
| 00:18.42 | abrotman | tryggvib: uh .. awesome |
| 00:18.44 | demeter | abrotman: laptop |
| 00:18.49 | tryggvib | abrotman: I know :) |
| 00:18.55 | demeter | might be the laptop itself... |
| 00:18.56 | demeter | shit... |
| 00:18.57 | tryggvib | I'm stumped |
| 00:19.08 | abrotman | is voting flaky hardware |
| 00:19.16 | karsten | applies a stump remove to tryggvib |
| 00:19.29 | Lemon_BE | i am trying to install apc on my debian etch server but it runs plesk panel 9 |
| 00:19.31 | Lemon_BE | so not sure |
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| 00:19.38 | Lemon_BE | http://www.howtoforge.com/apc-php5-apache2-debian-etch |
| 00:19.45 | Titan8990 | !plesk |
| 00:19.46 | dpkg | Parallels Plesk Panel (formerly Plesk) is proprietary web hosting control panel. Not supported in #debian, ask me about <free whcp> for alternatives. http://www.parallels.com/support/plesk/ http://forum.parallels.com/ ##plesk on irc.freenode.net. |
| 00:19.54 | Lemon_BE | this tutorial says i need to install php-pear |
| 00:19.55 | abrotman | tell? |
| 00:20.00 | karsten | Lemon_BE: lsb_release -a |
| 00:20.13 | Lemon_BE | but with that command it also wants to upgrade php-5 aetc |
| 00:20.14 | Lemon_BE | etc |
| 00:20.18 | abrotman | Lemon_BE: plesk doesn't support lenny, you're halfway into lenny ... |
| 00:20.22 | Titan8990 | karsten: an openvz container using plesk... there is no telling how that thing is modified |
| 00:20.25 | karsten | Lemon_BE: /proc/version just tells you the version of the _kernel_ |
| 00:20.33 | Lemon_BE | well i'm past the version issue now :) |
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| 00:20.43 | karsten | Titan8990: It's still a useful bit of info. |
| 00:20.55 | Vasistha | Lemon_BE: uhh... don't be so sure. You might be half-upgraded and in a perilous position. |
| 00:20.58 | jelly-home | Lemon_BE: if you're running plesk, don't upgrade anytihng unless you confirmed with your vendor it works |
| 00:21.00 | Mowee | Adieu |
| 00:23.05 | tryggvib | abrotman: I found it... I was out of memory... exim4+mailman hogged it all up |
| 00:23.25 | abrotman | tryggvib: seems an odd error .. but okay |
| 00:23.51 | tryggvib | so thanks karsten for your stump removal ;) |
| 00:24.11 | tryggvib | abrotman: I don't know if its the reason but I can do dpkg-reconfigure locales now |
| 00:24.18 | karsten | tryggvib: YW. |
| 00:24.20 | abrotman | awesome! |
| 00:26.22 | karsten | Ausgeseichnet! |
| 00:26.22 | demeter | Vasistha: any answers? |
| 00:26.25 | demeter | abrotman: ^ |
| 00:26.38 | abrotman | demeter: flourescent lights ? |
| 00:26.51 | demeter | eh? |
| 00:26.54 | karsten | Hrm. dhclient, want to specify my search domains.... reading dhclient.conf(5) |
| 00:26.56 | Vasistha | demeter: I'm rather stumped. it's certainly strange. |
| 00:27.03 | Vasistha | demeter: have you googled about for it? |
| 00:27.28 | Vasistha | abrotman: I would expect a dying fluorescent to be more visible on the whites, but he sees it only in certain shades of grey |
| 00:27.38 | abrotman | demeter: only one OS on the laptop ? |
| 00:28.07 | demeter | abrotman: only one |
| 00:28.14 | demeter | i had windows vista installed last night.. no flicker |
| 00:28.30 | abrotman | liveCD? no flicker ? |
| 00:28.39 | demeter | no flicker under xterm |
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| 00:28.43 | demeter | just flickering with iceweasel |
| 00:28.51 | demeter | light flicker with xchat |
| 00:28.57 | abrotman | on blacks? greys ? |
| 00:29.00 | demeter | greys |
| 00:29.03 | demeter | no blacks |
| 00:29.21 | abrotman | xrandr ? |
| 00:29.32 | demeter | xrandr? |
| 00:29.41 | demeter | this is not a live CD |
| 00:29.54 | abrotman | i'm asking if you have one nearby |
| 00:30.01 | demeter | whats an xrandr |
| 00:30.05 | abrotman | it's a program |
| 00:30.16 | demeter | oh |
| 00:30.37 | karsten | demeter: x window resize and rotate |
| 00:30.51 | demeter | whats that |
| 00:30.52 | karsten | demeter: allows dynamic reconfiguration of your running X11 (UGI) session. |
| 00:30.59 | demeter | (i'm a total linux newbie for most things) |
| 00:31.06 | Vasistha | ahh, that's a good idea, perhaps it is not running at native resolution |
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| 00:31.18 | karsten | demeter: aptitude show <foo> => aptitude show xrandr |
| 00:31.45 | karsten | demeter: If that doesn't work: aptitude search <foo>. "<foo>" is some arbitrary word or program you're looking for info on. |
| 00:31.47 | demeter | karsten: No current or candidate version found for xrandr |
| 00:31.48 | Vasistha | demeter: do you happen to know the native resolution of the display? |
| 00:31.52 | karsten | demeter: There's also this thing called Google. |
| 00:32.00 | abrotman | demeter: dpkg -l libc6 ? |
| 00:32.11 | demeter | Vasistha: i forgot |
| 00:32.45 | demeter | abrotman: Dsired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold |
| 00:32.52 | karsten | demeter: dpkg -S $( which xrandr )... tells me that the local /usr/bin/xrandr binary is part of x11-server-utils. |
| 00:32.56 | abrotman | demeter: only need the last line |
| 00:33.05 | demeter | karsten: yes |
| 00:33.49 | demeter | x11-xserver-utils is already installed |
| 00:34.11 | demeter | Vasistha: 1280x800 |
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| 00:34.32 | karsten | demeter: what kind of display? CRT or LCD? (cathode ray or flat-screen?) |
| 00:34.39 | demeter | LCD |
| 00:34.41 | demeter | laptop |
| 00:34.43 | abrotman | which version of libc6 ? |
| 00:34.54 | demeter | flickers badly on www.uppimg.com |
| 00:34.59 | karsten | It's not flourescent flicker then, there's no scan-line decay to worry about. |
| 00:35.10 | karsten | demeter: This could be an artifact of your video driver as well. |
| 00:35.11 | demeter | abrotman: 2.7-18 |
| 00:35.21 | demeter | karsten: thats what i was hoping to think |
| 00:35.39 | abrotman | eh .. i think he's missing a libc6 update |
| 00:35.47 | demeter | karsten: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834147926 |
| 00:36.02 | demeter | abrotman: how do i update? |
| 00:36.11 | abrotman | not super important at the moment |
| 00:36.21 | demeter | how do i update all packages |
| 00:36.24 | demeter | or check for newer versions |
| 00:36.27 | demeter | aptitude update? |
| 00:37.20 | Vasistha | demeter: that'll update your list; then you need to actually upgrade the packages. So aptitude update; aptitude upgrade |
| 00:37.35 | demeter | none to update |
| 00:37.37 | demeter | ugprade* |
| 00:37.44 | demeter | so its the video driver. |
| 00:37.46 | demeter | stupid crap. |
| 00:37.53 | demeter | screams at laptop |
| 00:39.23 | boodu | I search a kernel with module to openvz and zaptel (ztdummy) , on lenny. I don't found :( |
| 00:39.24 | demeter | xserver-xorg-video-radeon already installed... |
| 00:40.09 | abrotman | demeter: is it only when scrolling ? |
| 00:40.33 | demeter | abrotman: nope |
| 00:40.39 | demeter | downloading some driver off amd.com |
| 00:40.44 | demeter | lets see if it works. |
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| 00:40.53 | Vasistha | careful with those |
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| 00:41.04 | Vasistha | !ati |
| 00:41.04 | dpkg | To use an ATI graphics card with Debian, ask me about <radeon>, <radeonhd>, <fglrx>. See also <radeon vs radeonhd>. Installing proprietary drivers from amd.com (i.e. with the ATI Driver Installer) is not supported in #debian, please go to #ati (irc.freenode.net). |
| 00:41.20 | peblive | Where do I download google os? |
| 00:41.20 | demeter | !ati radeonhd |
| 00:41.28 | demeter | !radeonhd |
| 00:41.29 | dpkg | [radeonhd] the AMD/ATI <FOSS> Xorg driver for the Radeon R5xx, R6xx and R7xx (since version 1.2.2) family of chipsets. Packaged for Debian as xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd; Squeeze users, ask me about <radeon firmware>. Does not support <KMS> (Debian bug #575226). http://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo http://x.org/wiki/radeonhd #radeonhd on irc.freenode.net. |
| 00:41.40 | Vasistha | demeter: you might want fglrx ... /msg dpkg fglrx |
| 00:41.47 | demeter | i already apparently have it |
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| 00:43.02 | demeter | rebooting |
| 00:43.03 | demeter | brb |
| 00:44.22 | jalalsfs | How can I use test dist in apt-get? |
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| 00:46.34 | Titan8990 | jalalsfs: test dist? |
| 00:47.02 | jalalsfs | debian test http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-dvd/ |
| 00:47.19 | jalalsfs | I want use it in my apt-get |
| 00:47.28 | abrotman | jalalsfs: please start using aptitude |
| 00:47.49 | Titan8990 | jalalsfs: you want to upgrade to testing or just need a package from it? |
| 00:48.07 | jalalsfs | I want upgrade |
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| 00:48.50 | jalalsfs | <abrotman> I don't know use aptitude |
| 00:48.58 | abrotman | learn |
| 00:49.25 | jalalsfs | <abrotman> Thank you so much |
| 00:49.39 | jalalsfs | I will |
| 00:49.54 | Vasistha | jalalsfs: if you don't know how to do it, then you probably should not be doing it. |
| 00:49.58 | Titan8990 | iyhtays jalalsfs |
| 00:50.03 | Titan8990 | !iyhtays jalalsfs |
| 00:50.03 | dpkg | jalalsfs: If You Have To Ask, You Shouldn't. |
| 00:50.15 | Vasistha | !tell jalalsfs about moving target |
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| 00:50.51 | abrotman | jalalsfs: why do you want testing ? |
| 00:51.10 | jalalsfs | New packages |
| 00:51.59 | Vasistha | yeah, I also want testing for that reason, but I am sticking with stable at least until testing freezes |
| 00:52.21 | Vasistha | there are too many big changes in the pipes for testing for me to want to be using it right now |
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| 00:55.01 | Titan8990 | !sns |
| 00:55.01 | dpkg | somebody said sns was Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. if you have sns, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>. These are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is <moving target>. |
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| 01:17.41 | acu | which is the easiest to manage virtual server ? |
| 01:18.49 | katyl | acu: What do you mean by that, easy to manage company to host your virutal server? or easiest distro |
| 01:19.52 | abrotman | or easiest tools ? |
| 01:20.43 | acu | I am using Debian - Squeeze to be - and I want to use a virtual server and I do not know which one is the easiest, clear - least learning curve to use - virtual server - I understandthat there is virtualbox by oracle, xen by citrix (all open source) kvn and others -I wonder which one has nice graphics interface and easy way to administer it |
| 01:22.16 | acu | I did not install any of them - I wonder how can you have an ethernet with 4 IPs - or oppositly an ethernet with one IP and differentservers - websrerver, email ftp, file server tec |
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| 01:23.29 | abrotman | that's not a virtual server (like VPS), that's virtualization |
| 01:23.37 | abrotman | and you'll just have to try them and see which works best for you |
| 01:24.35 | acu | abrotman: short of myself trying each of them - do you have any experience with any - hints etc |
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| 01:35.36 | abrotman | is exim in a chroot ? |
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| 01:37.14 | Alysum | hmm Ive just read that it doesnt use /etc/aliases http://pkg-exim4.alioth.debian.org/README/README.Debian.html#id305178 |
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| 01:43.20 | donowan | any way to undo a cp command? |
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| 01:44.05 | abrotman | delete ? |
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| 01:46.19 | donowan | no, i have confuse source and destination. i have overwritten new files with old ones. |
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| 01:48.18 | pseudocrat | I have an integrated chicony webcam that uses the uvc module and it works perfectly in cheese, but I cannot use it in a browser. I searched around and it seems that the uvc module is loaded so I ran out of luck using google. |
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| 01:52.31 | seeker7 | i have a windows workaround question and need an answer from a non windows person |
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| 01:53.43 | Alysum | can someone pls advise how to setup aliases with exim4 ? |
| 01:53.50 | Alysum | it's complicated |
| 01:54.35 | dvs | Alysum: ??? |
| 01:54.43 | dvs | Alysum: /etc/aliases is complicated? |
| 01:54.51 | Alysum | exim4 for debian ignored /etc/aliases |
| 01:55.15 | Alysum | it uses some exim4 transport/router config instead and I have no clue how to set it up |
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| 01:57.14 | Alysum | any tips ? |
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| 02:01.36 | Alysum | arggg |
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| 02:04.56 | abrotman | Alysum: does the mail.log have a hint ? |
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| 02:06.22 | MariachiAC | hello I upgraded to Debian testing. However, initrd-tools failed to install. It was trying to generate the initrd.img file. So now my system does not boot. I've booted into a live cd environment. Please advise. |
| 02:06.47 | Alysum | no log doesnt help |
| 02:07.31 | MariachiAC | Alysum: Perhaps the dpkg logs can tell me something of why it did not successfully installed? I don't know what the boot messages are since i'm blind. |
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| 02:08.03 | Alysum | its installed fine - just that I have no clue how to setup aliases in exim's configs |
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| 02:10.11 | MariachiAC | I'll be back |
| 02:10.30 | dvs | uh oh |
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| 02:23.45 | Penol | I got E: The package zensched needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. <------- i got that all the time, how to remove? |
| 02:24.49 | SerajewelKS | Penol: reinstall the package |
| 02:25.01 | Penol | SerajewelKS: it want reinstall |
| 02:25.27 | SerajewelKS | Penol: if you still have the .deb somewhere, reinstall that |
| 02:25.31 | Penol | how |
| 02:25.36 | SerajewelKS | Penol: man dpkg |
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| 02:27.04 | Sarago | Looking for some help with rxvt-unicode-lite and fonts. I installed the Proggy Clean font, but can't get rxvt to recognize it |
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| 02:27.43 | Sarago | fc-list | grep -i proggy shows the font name as ProggyCleanTT |
| 02:28.48 | Sarago | xterm uses it just fine using the faceName resource |
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| 02:31.06 | simonrvn | it's called inconsistency. deal with it ;). |
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| 02:39.00 | karsten | SerajewelKS: Hey, just reading back through our earlier discussion. |
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| 02:39.39 | karsten | SerajewelKS: ... missed it at the time, but if you've got encrypted data somewhere and it's discovered (legally), you may be compelled to provide access code or ifnd yourself in contempt. Again, be careful what you bring to work. |
| 02:40.15 | karsten | SerajewelKS: On a pragmatic ground, you've got yourself pretty well covered. Just note that it's not just the cops/feds you might be concerned with in case anyone gets interested in $EMPLOYER. |
| 02:41.12 | karsten | hugs aptitude in all its shiny goodness. |
| 02:41.34 | SerajewelKS | karsten: well there's not anything in there incriminating, it's not like i do illegal shit anyway |
| 02:41.52 | SerajewelKS | karsten: if they want to read me explaining to my mom how to upgrade her drivers, that's up to them |
| 02:42.10 | karsten | Once again -- new system. <command>; <command> not found. sudo aptitude install <command package>; <command> |
| 02:42.28 | SerajewelKS | karsten: and if we hypothetically assume that i was in court, there is always the fifth |
| 02:43.08 | karsten | SerajewelKS: Having been on both sides of legal discovery it's not much fun regardless. There's a recent case going through SCOTUS on personal messages by way of corp-delivered pagers. |
| 02:43.50 | karsten | SerajewelKS: The fift protects you against direct testimony, not production of evidence. But that's off-topic here. |
| 02:44.18 | karsten | SerajewelKS: All that aside, nice setup and I apreciate the diagram for visualization. |
| 02:44.20 | SerajewelKS | karsten: either way, there's nothing in there like i said. it'd sure be fun to run around them though until they basically force me to give up the key, only for them to find nothing in there. |
| 02:44.24 | SerajewelKS | karsten: :) |
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| 02:45.28 | karsten | SerajewelKS: For plausible deniability, you could, say, use really long gnerated random passwords. And store those in a separate keysafe. When asked what the unlock code is "I don't know". |
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| 02:45.46 | karsten | Now if they ask you *where* the key is .... |
| 02:45.49 | SerajewelKS | karsten: if i had something terribly important to hide, i imagine i could have the key accessible only offsite somewhere. i'd find a way to get it there without anyone knowing (use a public terminal or something). |
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| 02:46.25 | SerajewelKS | karsten: and if i don't make weekly trips to a terminal to give the computer a code, it shreds the key and i lose my data. then i just have to stall them for at most a week until even i don't have access anymore. |
| 02:46.55 | karsten | There are a number of protocols based on that scheme. Bruce Schneier's discussed them IIRC. |
| 02:47.04 | SerajewelKS | and then it's technically not even destruction of evidence -- they still have the evidence, they'll just have a really touch math puzzle on their hands to get at it. :) |
| 02:47.24 | SerajewelKS | yeah all hypothetical, but this is the kind of shit i think about in my spare time |
| 02:47.56 | karsten | SerajewelKS: ... to continue the OT bit -- my fun one was having had access to a boatload of data rather valuable and useful in a case. The clincher question from opposing counsel was "and so, as a system admin with 9 years' experience, how did you come to be in posession of my client's email?" |
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| 02:48.08 | karsten | "She gave it to me". |
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| 02:48.24 | karsten | Opposing counsel was not prepared for that answer, which was truthful ;-) |
| 02:48.40 | karsten | SerajewelKS: It's good to have a security hat on. |
| 02:49.39 | SerajewelKS | karsten: yeah i've never actually even been in court for any reason. it's fun to think about but i'm not sure i'd enjoy being there much. unless i was testimony against someone i didn't particularly like. |
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| 02:50.44 | karsten | SerajewelKS: My non-ex wife, in this csae. |
| 02:51.05 | SerajewelKS | karsten: you testified against your wife? |
| 02:51.18 | karsten | Annulment granted, so technically we were never married. |
| 02:51.37 | karsten | SerajewelKS: green card scammer |
| 02:51.44 | SerajewelKS | heh i'm not sure if i should congratulate you or be sad for you |
| 02:51.53 | abrotman | sends SerajewelKS to #debian-offtopic |
| 02:52.11 | SerajewelKS | sends abrotman a beer |
| 02:52.23 | karsten | SerajewelKS: Whichever it is, do it in #d-0 |
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| 02:59.32 | wpgmb | I "think" I'm using the latest Gimp in my repositories (Squeeze, Gimp 2.6.8) but I still see a bug that's supposedly been fixed in Gimp 2.6.8-3. How can I check if have that -3 build version? |
| 03:00.11 | Dewi | wpgmb: apt-cache show or apt-cache policy |
| 03:00.16 | Dewi | <packagename> |
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| 03:00.59 | wpgmb | Version: 2.6.8-2 :( not 2.6.8-3 like mentioned in some threads IO |
| 03:01.33 | abrotman | judd: versions gimp |
| 03:01.35 | Sarago | is "upstream" basically installing from a downloaded tar.gz file? |
| 03:01.35 | judd | gimp -- etch: 2.2.13-1etch4; etch-security: 2.2.13-1etch4; lenny: 2.4.7-1; squeeze: 2.6.8-2; sid: 2.6.8-3 |
| 03:01.39 | Dewi | wpgmb: yeah, -3 hasn't landed in testing yet |
| 03:01.40 | wpgmb | Version: 2.6.8-2 :( not 2.6.8-3 like mentioned in some threads I've seen that suggest Debian has 2.6.8-3. Is that available in unstable only? |
| 03:01.47 | Dewi | Sarago: depends on context |
| 03:01.47 | abrotman | wpgmb: squeeze still has -2 |
| 03:02.03 | abrotman | dpkg: why is gimp not in testing |
| 03:02.03 | dpkg | gimp is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=gimp |
| 03:02.15 | Sarago | Dewi: I want a much newer version of iceweasel or firefox if I can't get that |
| 03:02.38 | abrotman | wpgmb: it's going in today some time .. wait 24hrs .. check again |
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| 03:02.47 | Dewi | Sarago: try backports, then source package |
| 03:03.19 | Dewi | Sarago: backports has 3.5.8-1~bpo50+2 for lenny |
| 03:03.25 | Dewi | Sarago: http://www.backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php |
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| 03:03.36 | wpgmb | abrotman: you mean, be puh..puh.. puh... patient?????? allright - thank you |
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| 03:03.57 | abrotman | wpgmb: the URL above implies it's happening today (probably the next pulse) |
| 03:04.00 | Sarago | Dewi: thanks |
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| 03:04.49 | wpgmb | apt-cache update arrow up.... arrow up... arrow up... arrow up... |
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| 03:04.59 | abrotman | aptitude update ? |
| 03:05.16 | wpgmb | isn't that the same thing? |
| 03:05.23 | abrotman | no |
| 03:05.52 | Dewi | abrotman: didn't the other apt tools catch up to aptitude? |
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| 03:06.00 | wpgmb | please 'splain? |
| 03:06.08 | abrotman | Dewi: i don't think apt-cache has an update function |
| 03:06.28 | wpgmb | ^ correct |
| 03:06.36 | abrotman | waves |
| 03:06.44 | Dewi | hehe |
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| 03:09.19 | Dewi | wpgmb: aptitude is a full-screen-text ui replacement for apt-get, but also accepts apt-get commands, and tends to be smarter (but apt-get has improved too since I last checked) |
| 03:09.44 | SerajewelKS | !why aptitude |
| 03:09.45 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). |
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| 03:10.21 | wpgmb | aptitude it is, then |
| 03:11.13 | wpgmb | so... is aptitude smart enough to tell me what version of foo is available? what command? |
| 03:12.08 | nsadmin | !search |
| 03:12.08 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking, e.g. 'apt-cache search regex', or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): 'dpkg -S /bin/foo', <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and <help find> (bot). <search dpkg> for factoids. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt and ask me about <bot help>. |
| 03:12.26 | SerajewelKS | wpgmb: apt-cache policy |
| 03:12.37 | Sarago | W: GPG error: http://www.backports.org lenny-backports Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EA8E8B2116BA136C |
| 03:12.38 | simonrvn | or look in the ui ;p |
| 03:12.40 | Sarago | huh? |
| 03:12.52 | simonrvn | !apt-key |
| 03:12.56 | nsadmin | !key |
| 03:12.57 | dpkg | Install the latest debian-archive-keyring package to get the latest GPG key used to sign the Debian archive. |
| 03:13.02 | Sarago | it told me to run apt-get update to fix, but that didn't fix it |
| 03:13.08 | simonrvn | this is backports |
| 03:13.14 | simonrvn | they have their own |
| 03:13.17 | nsadmin | you need to install the key first |
| 03:13.24 | SerajewelKS | Sarago: backports.org tells you how to fix it. read the docs there. |
| 03:13.33 | simonrvn | though i think they may have a backports-keyring pkg or such |
| 03:13.57 | nsadmin | once you've installed whatever keyring is necessary, an update will clear things up |
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| 03:41.08 | spersaud | how do I get /accounts/password/change and /accounts/password/reset to use my templates ? |
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| 03:48.14 | ham5 | huh |
| 03:48.27 | ham5 | whats the root problem |
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| 03:49.59 | demism | Hi guys, I netinstalled and now i have a basic xorg/fluxbox configuration and i was trying to get sound to work by installing alsa-base and alsa-utils, but to no avail i have no sound even after running alsaconf and alsamixer and blasting the vol levels |
| 03:50.46 | ham5 | sure your speakers are pluged in? |
| 03:50.53 | demism | it's a laptop |
| 03:51.08 | ham5 | figures |
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| 03:51.33 | wols | !alsa checklist |
| 03:51.34 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 2) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels & toggle jack sense) 3) arts or esound stopped? 4) OSS modules unloaded? 5) speakers on? 6) modprobe snd-pcm-oss 7) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. See also <list alsa users>. |
| 03:52.06 | ham5 | bots so damn handy |
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| 03:52.27 | demism | what is jack sense? |
| 03:53.01 | patrick-1 | Hey! Is it possible to update php by hand in the following setup: apache2 debian package, php5.1.2 debian package libapache2-mod-php5 |
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| 03:53.17 | patrick-1 | i need to upgrade the php installation |
| 03:53.29 | SerajewelKS | ,versions libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 03:53.30 | judd | libapache2-mod-php5 -- etch: 5.2.0-8+etch13; etch-security: 5.2.0+dfsg-8+etch16; lenny: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny4; lenny-security: 5.2.6.dfsg.1-1+lenny8; sid: 5.3.2-1; squeeze: 5.3.2-1 |
| 03:53.47 | patrick-1 | right, im on etch |
| 03:53.53 | simonrvn | !etch |
| 03:53.53 | dpkg | Etch is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Etch security support ended on 2010-02-15, this release is no longer supported. Etch users should upgrade to Lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. For old Etch ISOs, ask me about <etch iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEtch http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100121 |
| 03:53.54 | SerajewelKS | patrick-1: 5.1.2 is ancient, how are you still running that? |
| 03:54.18 | patrick-1 | thats why it needs an update. is there any way? |
| 03:54.25 | patrick-1 | except from upgrading the distro? |
| 03:54.26 | simonrvn | see that "Etch security support ended on 2010-02-15, this release is no longer supported." part? |
| 03:54.44 | patrick-1 | yes, for now its essential to keep things as they are though |
| 03:54.46 | SerajewelKS | patrick-1: your distro is not even getting security updates anymore. if this is a production box then you should really upgrade to lenny asap. |
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| 03:55.09 | SerajewelKS | patrick-1: either you want to keep things as they are or you don't, which is it? |
| 03:55.58 | patrick-1 | php needs upgrading. nothing else. |
| 03:56.09 | simonrvn | ... |
| 03:56.41 | patrick-1 | thanks for your concern, but this is what needs to be done |
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| 03:56.45 | SerajewelKS | patrick-1: why does it need upgrading? |
| 03:57.12 | patrick-1 | SerajewelKS: Is this really a matter of "why"? |
| 03:57.41 | SerajewelKS | patrick-1: well the easy answer to your question is either download the php tarball and compile it, or upgrade to a supported release |
| 03:58.04 | demism | !list alsa users |
| 03:58.04 | dpkg | To see what processes are using (and perhaps blocking) your sound device: ps `lsof +D /dev -F rt | awk '/^p/ {pid=$1} /^t/ {type=$1} /^r0x74..$/ && type == "tCHR" {print pid} /^r0xe..$/ && type == "tCHR" {print pid}' | cut -c 2- | uniq`. Alternatively, fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp /dev/mixer |
| 03:58.18 | wols | !tell demism about msgthebot |
| 03:58.24 | patrick-1 | Okay, i simply want to understand how php interacts with aache when using mod_php so i can upgrade myseld |
| 03:58.31 | patrick-1 | apache* |
| 03:58.36 | patrick-1 | myself* |
| 03:58.55 | ham5 | !jack sence |
| 03:59.03 | wols | patrick-1: it's a shared lib, an apache extension |
| 03:59.10 | simonrvn | um, because mod_php is built with a certain apache2 version.... |
| 03:59.14 | SerajewelKS | so you want to upgrade apache and php? |
| 03:59.43 | SerajewelKS | but, uhm, nothing else that might have security vulnerabilities? |
| 03:59.47 | simonrvn | and apache2 is built with a certain glibc version.. it's called dependencies. might want to look that up some time. |
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| 04:01.27 | simonrvn | SerajewelKS: well, can't say we tried |
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| 04:02.10 | SerajewelKS | simonrvn: can't? |
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| 04:03.41 | simonrvn | meant, "we did try" |
| 04:03.46 | SerajewelKS | i know :) |
| 04:03.52 | SerajewelKS | i'm being shallow and pedantic |
| 04:04.44 | simonrvn | wah! :P |
| 04:04.51 | simonrvn | afk, bbiab |
| 04:05.13 | demism | ok so I tried everything in that checklist for sound to no avail... anyone using HD Audio Controller ICH9 famil |
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| 04:08.08 | demism | Can anyone help me troubleshoot my sound card, i'd appreciate it, thanks. :) |
| 04:08.38 | ham5 | modules loaded? |
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| 04:08.55 | demism | ham5 i believe all the right ones are yes. |
| 04:09.12 | ham5 | why do you believe that? |
| 04:09.35 | ham5 | checked any logs? |
| 04:09.42 | demism | well, because all the ones I've seen listed are loaded, and i even ran alsaconf |
| 04:09.50 | demism | ham5: no on the logs... |
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| 04:13.46 | demism | I'm getting the following error after alsaconf : amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such file or directory |
| 04:13.50 | nsadmin | demism: lspci -nn |
| 04:13.54 | nsadmin | look thru it |
| 04:14.03 | nsadmin | show the line that goes with your sound hardware |
| 04:14.16 | demism | 00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller [8086:293e] (rev 03 |
| 04:14.31 | nsadmin | , pciid [8086:293e] |
| 04:14.32 | judd | [8086:293e] is '82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel module 'snd-hda-intel' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:293e and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
| 04:15.18 | nsadmin | with that hardware/driver, you would have to pick the correct "model" that goes with your specific instance of intel hd |
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| 04:16.27 | demism | nsadmin: how can I go about doing that? |
| 04:16.52 | nsadmin | find which model goes with your card |
| 04:17.14 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:17.40 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:17.53 | demism | i believe its the i900 series model |
| 04:18.23 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:24.37 | demism | if I update the modprobe.d/sound for my soundcard how do I restart it so it takes effect... |
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| 04:26.06 | ham5 | the sacred reboot |
| 04:26.19 | SerajewelKS | !reboot |
| 04:26.19 | dpkg | You want to reboot for WHAT?? If it's not a new kernel or a hardware change, you probably don't need to reboot. Ask me about <qotd2>. |
| 04:26.46 | simonrvn | it "takes" right away or when you reload the driver |
| 04:27.10 | ham5 | ;) |
| 04:27.27 | paonia | the evolution dev team asked me to install the dbus dbg packages the only one I see is libdbus-glib-1-2-dbg which was install when they asked me to install it so is there another package I am missing |
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| 04:27.57 | simonrvn | !tell paonia -about search |
| 04:28.19 | simonrvn | like apt-cache search dbg dbus for instance ... |
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| 04:30.12 | paonia | simonrvn: I have everything already installed which I knew |
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| 04:31.09 | simonrvn | ok, so ... what else do they expect? |
| 04:31.56 | paonia | no idea just wanted to make sure I had not missed something |
| 04:32.14 | demism | hmm... i remember it working on ubuntu so I'll just use the live cd and see the settings there and copy those over ;) |
| 04:32.38 | demism | or try... thanks :) |
| 04:33.19 | tuv | what's the difference between libvdpau1 and nvidia-libvdpau1? when should i install each? |
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| 04:40.09 | nsadmin | tuv, usually a lib is a tool in support of a program... so you would install the program you want, and the necessary tools will just come along for the ride |
| 04:40.41 | simonrvn | usually because of a dep, recommends or depends |
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| 04:41.01 | johnfg | hi guys |
| 04:41.22 | johnfg | just installed testing/squeeze in sun virtual box. All went well. |
| 04:41.30 | simonrvn | i'm not high |
| 04:41.39 | johnfg | But, I'm having the same old problem in that I can't login! |
| 04:41.41 | simonrvn | *g* |
| 04:41.56 | johnfg | I enter username and password, and it fails! |
| 04:42.12 | johnfg | Is there a way I can fix this? |
| 04:42.13 | nsadmin | you enter this where exactly? on what? |
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| 04:43.06 | nsadmin | was your caps lock on in one case and off in another? |
| 04:43.24 | johnfg | nsadmin, the system booted, first time fine. I've got a gdm login screen up. So, the regular login screen. |
| 04:43.28 | simonrvn | or different layouts |
| 04:43.36 | johnfg | No, has nothing to do with caplock. |
| 04:43.49 | nsadmin | who are you trying to log in as? |
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| 04:43.56 | johnfg | This was the reason I went back to lenny in the first place. |
| 04:44.12 | johnfg | nsadmin: myself. |
| 04:44.16 | tuv | nsadmin: i'm compiling a program that requires a vdpau library. both satisfy the build |
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| 04:44.53 | johnfg | Seems like others have had this problem, but I can't recall the fix/workaround. |
| 04:45.33 | johnfg | Any ideas? |
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| 04:46.09 | johnfg | Really a bummer having the new system right there in virtual box, and not being able to login :-( |
| 04:46.48 | nsadmin | when you hit ctrl-alt-f1, (alt-f7 to get you back), do you see a textual login screen? |
| 04:48.08 | johnfg | nsadmin, That won't work with virtual box (I tried), it takes me to tty1 on debian lenny. |
| 04:48.26 | nsadmin | what won't work? |
| 04:49.10 | nsadmin | according to what you just said, it worked just now, to get you to tty1 |
| 04:49.53 | johnfg | nsadmin, ctrl-alt-f1 doesn't work to take me to a textual login screen for testing/squeeze. It takes me to one for lenny. |
| 04:50.13 | johnfg | It doesn't work within virtual box. |
| 04:50.22 | johnfg | Or at least I can't get it to work. |
| 04:50.48 | simonrvn | you aving it grab the keyboard? |
| 04:50.51 | simonrvn | ha* |
| 04:50.51 | nsadmin | ok, try to log in using a known user to your lenny |
| 04:51.06 | nsadmin | in the gnome login |
| 04:51.39 | johnfg | nsadmin, I already am using what's the same login in lenny for testing. |
| 04:52.00 | nsadmin | so, are you saying: |
| 04:52.18 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:52.47 | nsadmin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:55.05 | johnfg | No. And sorry if I'm not being clear. With squeeze running as a virtual machine in sun virtualbox *on* lenny, I enter my username and password, and it comes back with: Incorrect username of password. Letters must be typed in the correct case. |
| 04:55.19 | johnfg | or password. |
| 04:55.36 | johnfg | And as I said, the case is *not* the problem. |
| 04:56.07 | nsadmin | does it say that for any incorrect login? |
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| 04:56.20 | johnfg | This happened with a real install on this laptop, and again, it's why I went back to lenny. |
| 04:56.26 | nsadmin | say, for a login name of uooeuwr and a passwd of oiusdf |
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| 04:58.04 | johnfg | nsadmin, yeah, gives the same message. |
| 04:58.31 | johnfg | I can't configure it allow root, because it won't allow root's password either! |
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| 04:59.15 | nsadmin | probably the reason it won't allow root at this point is different |
| 04:59.38 | johnfg | Any ideas for correcting this? rescue mode? |
| 05:00.25 | nsadmin | didn't you say someone had this problem and you found this, applied the solution and it worked? |
| 05:01.27 | johnfg | No, I *thought* I remembered others having this same problem. But I couldn't come up with or find a fix, so went back to lenny. |
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| 05:01.51 | johnfg | nsadmin, You haven't heard of this before with squeeze? |
| 05:01.52 | nsadmin | did lenny work when you went back to it? |
| 05:02.13 | johnfg | Perfectly. I love debian lenny! |
| 05:02.25 | johnfg | But I want to try squeeze, too. |
| 05:02.27 | nsadmin | so the reason you're not running it now is... |
| 05:02.37 | johnfg | lenny? |
| 05:02.39 | nsadmin | that you want to try it. |
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| 05:03.09 | simonrvn | "...With squeeze running as a virtual machine in sun virtualbox *on* lenny..." |
| 05:03.26 | simonrvn | i.e. squeeze guest on lenny host |
| 05:03.33 | johnfg | simonrvn, Right. |
| 05:03.49 | nsadmin | and all this is on a laptop? |
| 05:03.57 | johnfg | Lenny does everything: kerberos, openldap, openafs, etc. |
| 05:04.05 | simonrvn | must be some laptop |
| 05:04.12 | johnfg | nsadmin, Yup. With a big external hard drive. |
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| 05:05.03 | nsadmin | so usually, if someone has reported trouble, it finds its way to the BTS... what if anything did you find there? |
| 05:05.20 | johnfg | Sorry, what's BTS? |
| 05:05.38 | nsadmin | !bts |
| 05:05.38 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
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| 05:06.31 | Rezagrats | Debian has failed me once more. someone help; http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/1297/1001746a.jpg |
| 05:07.01 | demism | hi again guys... so I'm trying to configure sound... I'm currently in a live cd which sound is working fine... what can I copy or what files can I get so that my sound on debian will work just as fine? |
| 05:07.46 | nsadmin | Rezagrats: if you could post a specific informative concise complete and on-topic question, I might be talked into looking at the link |
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| 05:09.34 | Rezagrats | Nsadmin, if you look at the pic, the whole situation should come into view. |
| 05:10.01 | streuner__ | demism: what kind of soundsystem the live-CD use? |
| 05:10.15 | demism | alsa |
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| 05:10.27 | nsadmin | Rezagrats: I stated my terms... have a nice day |
| 05:10.46 | Rezagrats | How to describe what's wrong... :\ |
| 05:11.08 | Rezagrats | 'filesystem check failed' |
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| 05:11.27 | Rezagrats | That's moreorless the issue i guess. |
| 05:11.46 | nsadmin | the filesystem that would be mounted where? |
| 05:11.57 | streuner__ | demism: fine, and what kind of chipset do you have? |
| 05:11.58 | initq | give root password; fsck -y /dev/hdc2 |
| 05:11.58 | Rezagrats | / |
| 05:12.28 | demism | after looking at alsamixer and lspci i determined it's snd_hda_intel and VIA VT1708S |
| 05:12.29 | Rezagrats | I also tried 'ctrl-d' like it suggested but i got as far as the login screen an no further. |
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| 05:12.59 | johnfg | nsadmin, Not finding much in BTS, and some pretty old, nothing relevant. |
| 05:13.40 | nsadmin | so a stand-alone squeeze on the same laptop also fails? |
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| 05:14.42 | streuner__ | demism: well, did you try to use the same kernel (ALSA version) for the box and live-CD? |
| 05:15.14 | streuner__ | demism: if its a bug in snd_hda_intel i would recommend using another soundsystem |
| 05:15.46 | johnfg | Yes, it did. and I tried twice. |
| 05:16.12 | nsadmin | ok, so that's ruled out this sun virtualization as the problem |
| 05:16.25 | nsadmin | have you had this problem on any other machine? |
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| 05:16.32 | johnfg | nsadmin, It runs other distros with no problem. |
| 05:16.47 | johnfg | nsadmin, No. |
| 05:17.00 | nsadmin | have you tried squeeze on any other machine? |
| 05:17.04 | johnfg | But, it runs win xp pro and fedora 12 as well. |
| 05:17.14 | johnfg | nsadmin, no. |
| 05:17.17 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: it looks as though your hard drive has either failed, or the partition table is corrupt |
| 05:17.20 | demism | streuner__: I did notice they certain modules loaded that I didn't on the debian box... |
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| 05:17.38 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: neither is necessarily debian's fault |
| 05:18.15 | Rezagrats | How do i change what device it looks at, SerajewelKS? |
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| 05:18.30 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: what device what looks at? |
| 05:18.35 | johnfg | Gettin' sleepy, better go get some shuteye. I'll leave this up, and if any ideas pop into your heads... |
| 05:18.42 | johnfg | Thanks for trying to help! |
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| 05:20.11 | initq | dpkg -l | wc -l > my_iq |
| 05:20.12 | dpkg | No packages found matching | wc -l > my_iq |
| 05:20.15 | Rezagrats | SerajewelKS: fsck.etx3 was trying to look at /dev/hdc2 but i think the partition is now on /dev/hdd1 |
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| 05:20.36 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: oh, if you rearranged your hd then you need to reconfigure the bootloader |
| 05:20.43 | Rezagrats | Oh |
| 05:20.46 | nsadmin | johnfg: the next thing you should check is whether a different password would also fail. |
| 05:20.46 | Rezagrats | Is that it? |
| 05:20.54 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: in grub, edit the boot= parameter to the kernel |
| 05:21.06 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: then make sure you fix this in your grub.cfg and update-grub (if on lenny) |
| 05:21.08 | Rezagrats | Restart? |
| 05:21.19 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: or if you are on squeeze, just update-grub should do it |
| 05:21.21 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: yes |
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| 05:21.34 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: the kernel doesn't know where your root is. reboot and tell grub. |
| 05:21.35 | demism | what's acpi used for? |
| 05:21.38 | IceIsFun | can anyone help me get pppoe working? |
| 05:21.40 | SerajewelKS | !acpi |
| 05:21.40 | dpkg | Advanced Configuration and Power Interface -- a power management interface that gives more control to the BIOS, or horribly horribly broken, or "run this arbitrary code in ring 0", or generally better than <APM>. For a list of supported systems/BIOSes, see http://www.lesswatts.org/projects/acpi/ See also <acpid>, <suspend>. |
| 05:21.57 | Rezagrats | Crap, i don't know if i'm on lenny or squeeze. :\ |
| 05:22.03 | SerajewelKS | IceIsFun: not likely, if all your questions are that vague |
| 05:22.14 | IceIsFun | I've went through pppoeconf and it found eth0, configured it but i can't seem to get it to come up |
| 05:22.30 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: you'll find out when you reboot |
| 05:22.41 | Rezagrats | How? |
| 05:22.42 | IceIsFun | not sure where to begin debugging it, i have a entry in /etc/networking/interfaces for my pppoe link |
| 05:22.49 | crazypenguin | i want to configure a php development environment in emacs,and i have installed php-elispãcss-modeãhtml-helper-mode from sourcelist,but i don't know if it still need some configure to let they work togeter? |
| 05:22.51 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: the process to get them both to boot is the same. the process to fix it so that grub knows this for next time is different. |
| 05:22.57 | nsadmin | IceIsFun: how do you know it's failing? |
| 05:23.12 | IceIsFun | i should see a interface with a ip in ifconfig -a? |
| 05:23.18 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: reboot and we'll take it from there |
| 05:23.39 | johnfg | nsadmin, I get the same error message with a different password. |
| 05:23.57 | nsadmin | try setting a simple one, like 12345 |
| 05:24.06 | nsadmin | start by using digits |
| 05:24.13 | mordocai | Hello, can anyone point me to what exactly i need to be able to play dvds properly? Vlc plays fine, but mplayer gives me an error and then just plays audio, and totem silently fails then plays just audio. Running debian testing. |
| 05:24.14 | SerajewelKS | nsadmin: amazing, i have the same combination on my luggage! |
| 05:24.18 | valdyn | IceIsFun: look at /etc/network/interfaces, /var/log/messages and "ifup ppp0" |
| 05:24.36 | SerajewelKS | mordocai: shot in the dark, i'd guess you need vlc |
| 05:24.46 | fanderal | there's two squeeze netinst isos. what's the iso with "zsync" for? Is it something to consider for a desktop install? Thanks |
| 05:24.56 | nsadmin | someone had that combo on their house... and the marks on the keypad suggested it too |
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| 05:25.11 | valdyn | mordocai: *which* error? |
| 05:25.32 | mordocai | valdyn: well mplayer gives this one: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/mplayer-error-message-error-opening-initializing-video-out-device-458293/. Looking at help for that guy now |
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| 05:26.13 | IceIsFun | ok its a auth failure, works great on windows with default settings |
| 05:26.13 | valdyn | mordocai: "mplayer -vo x11 dvd://1" |
| 05:26.24 | Rezagrats | Ok, SerajewelKS, i'm at the grub menu |
| 05:26.50 | valdyn | mordocai: if that works then: "mplayer -vo xv dvd://1", thats preferable |
| 05:26.53 | johnfg | nsadmin, That last wasn't to me, was it? |
| 05:27.00 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: edit your default entry so the kernel's root= arg is where the root volume actually is |
| 05:27.26 | nsadmin | johnfg: try setting the password to something that's all digits |
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| 05:27.34 | mordocai | valdyn: Okay, yeah. That works. Thanks! Any idea what to do about totem? |
| 05:27.52 | Rezagrats | You mean i would have to have actually written down the really long name of the drive ? |
| 05:27.57 | valdyn | mordocai: install totem-xine |
| 05:27.59 | nsadmin | btw, how are you able to set the passwd at this point? |
| 05:28.17 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: you said it was /dev/hdd1, no? |
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| 05:28.33 | Rezagrats | It could be... yeah.. |
| 05:28.53 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: well we can guess or you can find out |
| 05:28.55 | mordocai | valdyn: Hmm... it actually works now. It must be using mplayer as it's background. (i changed video drivers in preferences on the gui) |
| 05:29.01 | johnfg | nsadmin, I can't get to that place. Unless I'd do a whole other install, and not willing to do that at this time, yet. |
| 05:29.05 | mordocai | valdyn: Of course, now subtitles don't show up lol. |
| 05:29.07 | valdyn | mordocai: no it doesnt use mplayer |
| 05:29.15 | nsadmin | "could be" only works in horseshoes, poker and cold-approach pickup :) |
| 05:29.23 | Rezagrats | So i just enter /dev/hdd1 ? |
| 05:29.31 | valdyn | mordocai: which program does not show subtitles? |
| 05:29.42 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: for the root= parameter, yes |
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| 05:29.59 | SerajewelKS | nsadmin: don't forget hand grenades |
| 05:30.01 | mordocai | valdyn: Well, mplayer says "no MVs available". Totem says it chooses a subtitle, but they aren't rendering. |
| 05:30.12 | nsadmin | oh yeah, sorry... |
| 05:30.24 | nsadmin | tosses SerajewelKS a hand grenade |
| 05:30.27 | nsadmin | here ya go~! |
| 05:30.34 | SerajewelKS | pulls out the pin, tosses it back |
| 05:30.50 | nsadmin | whacks it with a tennis racket! |
| 05:30.54 | valdyn | mordocai: no idea what "MV" is supposed to be |
| 05:30.59 | SerajewelKS | that'll show it! |
| 05:31.26 | mordocai | valdyn: Yeah... i'll play with the settings. At least it works in general now! Thanks :) |
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| 05:32.08 | valdyn | mordocai: v and j keys to change subtitle tracks and to generally switch them on and off and O key to trigger osd |
| 05:32.08 | factor | Does Debian have a xorg 1.8 server version |
| 05:32.26 | SerajewelKS | factor: http://packages.debian.org/xserver-xorg |
| 05:32.58 | factor | only 1.7 I see |
| 05:33.15 | SerajewelKS | is that a problem? |
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| 05:33.27 | factor | was wanting to test out some new drivers |
| 05:33.40 | SerajewelKS | ah well.. you could build from source |
| 05:34.27 | Rezagrats | What does it mean when i use 'blkid' and i get a couple drives that say SEC_TYPE: 'ext2' TYPE: "EXT3" ? |
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| 05:35.31 | valdyn | Rezagrats: any ext3 file system is also an ext2 file system |
| 05:35.37 | Rezagrats | SerajewelKS, it didn't work. |
| 05:36.08 | Rezagrats | Could those drives be part of the software RAID i set up during install, valdyn? |
| 05:36.56 | valdyn | guess so, use mdadm --examine |
| 05:37.07 | streuner | demism: shoudnt be an issue if you using a debian default kernel |
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| 05:37.22 | mordocai | valdyn: Btw, why i moved to using alternative players from vlc was because of this issue that #videolan hasn't helped with yet http://imagebin.ca/view/7gY1HZ_5.html. The subtitle are just... distorted. It does it with multiple dvds. Any ideas? |
| 05:37.48 | valdyn | mordocai: wrong font |
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| 05:38.15 | valdyn | mordocai: im sure thats configurable, but I dont use vlc, so i dont know where in the gui that is set |
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| 05:38.47 | valdyn | mordocai: looks like a font that is bold by itself made bolder by vlc |
| 05:39.08 | SerajewelKS | !tell Rezagrats about doesn't work |
| 05:39.39 | mordocai | valdyn: Okay, it's wierd though... because it works fine with some of my dvds i've encoded into video files. It's like the dvd is overriding vlc's normal font or something. |
| 05:39.55 | Rezagrats | SerajewelKS, nothing changed. i get to the same error. |
| 05:40.00 | valdyn | mordocai: the dvd cant do that |
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| 05:40.13 | mordocai | valdyn: I know, that's why it's weird. |
| 05:40.33 | SerajewelKS | mordocai: do the video files contain the subtitles as part of the video channel itself? |
| 05:40.55 | mordocai | SerajewelKS: I'm think so. I don't have to load an extra file |
| 05:41.04 | SerajewelKS | mordocai: because in that case, the subtitles would be rendered during encoding, and therefore would use whatever font your encoder likes |
| 05:41.28 | valdyn | mordocai: he's asking if you can switch the subtitles off |
| 05:42.10 | valdyn | mordocai: this is also called "hardcoded subtitles", its not what dvds you can buy do normally |
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| 05:42.26 | SerajewelKS | and it would explain the font discrepancy pretty easily |
| 05:42.52 | simplechat | Hi, using a backported xen kernel i'm having a slight issue in that the "jiffies" clocksource doesn't exist |
| 05:42.55 | valdyn | but it wouldnt explain how the encoder could be that stupid |
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| 05:43.08 | simplechat | and thats causing a fair amount of pain |
| 05:43.27 | valdyn | simplechat: i dont think jiffies is a clock source |
| 05:43.43 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: the encoder does what you tell it to... |
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| 05:44.05 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: yea, im referring to the encoding person, not the program |
| 05:44.37 | mordocai | Okay, well xine plays the dvd and the subtitles look fine... i'll have to tinker about with vlc |
| 05:44.48 | simplechat | valdyn, its supposed to be according to the debian xen wiki |
| 05:44.54 | simplechat | http://wiki.debian.org/Xen |
| 05:45.08 | simplechat | when you look at "Time went backwards (my problem), none of the keys there actually exist |
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| 05:49.22 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: ah, i've done that before. back in 2001ish when most linux video players could just barely do xvid and subtitle support was not great |
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| 05:52.01 | Rezagrats | Screw it |
| 05:52.15 | Rezagrats | I'll do this in the morning |
| 05:52.15 | Rezagrats | Too tired now. |
| 05:52.27 | mrAZ | i compiled 2.6.33 kernel with --initrd, installed it and getting : "kernel panic not syncing unable mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)". there is no initrd.img in /boot for this imege. is that ok ? |
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| 05:57.06 | K`zan | Hi folks, I have a problem with iceweasel and utube audio. If I run iceweasel as root, the audio works, but as me (none root) it does not work. Googled for hours and tried all sorts of stuff with no luck. Other media and players all work fine. Any suggestions *greatly* appreciated! |
| 05:57.20 | K`zan | Deb5 / kde 3.5... |
| 05:57.52 | Bop | K`zan, add your user to audio group in /etc/group |
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| 05:58.24 | K`zan | Bop, I am in the audio group. Even changing /dev/dsp to 666 doesn't help. |
| 05:58.39 | K`zan | ,29(audio) |
| 05:59.41 | Bop | does some player starts ? |
| 05:59.51 | Bop | just not sending audio |
| 06:00.07 | K`zan | Yes, utube comes up (embedded or not) video is fine, just no audio as a non-root user. |
| 06:00.11 | Bop | like vlc or rhythmbox |
| 06:00.27 | K`zan | I use vlc and it seems to do everything I throw at it. |
| 06:00.44 | Bop | have u checked your volumes , to see if its muted ? |
| 06:01.08 | K`zan | Yes, not muted, got everything all the way up (hard on the ears with other apps :-). |
| 06:01.25 | Bop | well i have a strange problem also |
| 06:01.35 | K`zan | Seems that this was a big problem in 2006 and 2007... |
| 06:01.51 | Bop | my laptop plays with headphones but not on builted-in speakers |
| 06:02.06 | K`zan | That is weird... |
| 06:02.13 | K`zan | Door, bbiab |
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| 06:23.33 | patrick-1 | hey |
| 06:23.48 | the-dude | Bop: compaq laptop? |
| 06:24.03 | Bop | the-dude, yeah compaq mini |
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| 06:24.14 | mrAZ | if i make oldconfig should i apply kernel patch after or before ? |
| 06:24.30 | Bop | before |
| 06:24.55 | mrAZ | Bop: thx |
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| 06:25.11 | the-dude | I had the same issue with a compaq, never fixed it, even after spending hours and hours googling and reading forums bugreports |
| 06:25.27 | Bop | the-dude, is it the 300-1010sp ? |
| 06:25.32 | Bop | 11.6 inch screen |
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| 06:27.39 | Bop | i didnt notice in the begining cause i use headphones by default |
| 06:28.10 | Bop | but i think i already eared the speakers working |
| 06:28.13 | the-dude | Bop: check what chipset it uses and google for it, some people report to get it working others learn to live with it :( |
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| 06:28.48 | Bop | the-dude, but there's a workaround ? |
| 06:29.14 | k\t | is it me, or are others getting an error with apt and insserv? |
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| 06:30.05 | prashanth | exit |
| 06:30.59 | the-dude | Bop: some people say it works for then, others say it doesn't, I did not get it working either so I gave up too |
| 06:31.10 | the-dude | s/then/them |
| 06:31.23 | Bop | u have link of that post ? |
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| 06:32.09 | k\t | better yet, should i worry about apt and insserv warnings such as "insserv: there is a loop involving service "<multiple entries>" |
| 06:34.16 | liable | !ping |
| 06:34.16 | dpkg | Yes, liable, you are online. |
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| 06:34.36 | the-dude | Bop: not a exact link, but the topics are easy to find with google |
| 06:34.42 | Bop | ok |
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| 06:56.11 | Bop | what packages do i need to run ./configure ? |
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| 06:57.43 | the-dude | Bop: depends on what your building :) check README or INSTALL |
| 06:57.50 | k\t | upstart..wont install.... |
| 06:57.52 | k\t | =\ |
| 06:57.58 | shylent | don't need anything to *run* it |
| 06:58.16 | Bop | the-dude, i mean , to generate makefile |
| 06:58.30 | Bop | not the deps itself |
| 06:58.52 | the-dude | then just run it |
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| 07:03.11 | mobidev | hi to all |
| 07:03.27 | nsadmin | running etch on a remote, would a text file be encoded in utf-8? (I'm almost positive I have this concept wrong somehow) |
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| 07:09.55 | Bop | anybody knows a tool like notify-send , but able to use user intervention , like buttons ? |
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| 07:13.08 | SPF | nsadmin: I think this depends on the editing program you use |
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| 07:13.56 | nsadmin | mostly emacs, but sometimes nano or kwrite |
| 07:14.25 | nsadmin | these days only using emacs for its unique features |
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| 07:15.01 | SPF | I think if it supports utf-8 and you have utf-8 characters in it, it will be saved in utf-8 format |
| 07:15.35 | SPF | you can give it a try |
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| 07:17.00 | SPF | nsadmin: I just tried it with vi, but my terminal is in utf-8 mode. Works fine |
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| 07:17.38 | SPF | file /tmp/test.txt |
| 07:17.38 | SPF | /tmp/test.txt: UTF-8 Unicode text |
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| 07:17.56 | nsadmin | never thought to check that |
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| 07:18.36 | nsadmin | ASCII text |
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| 07:18.59 | nsadmin | which would work in a utf-8 context, yes? |
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| 07:20.42 | SPF | not sure what you are trying to do now |
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| 07:27.50 | zebradog | anyone knows what program takes care of /etc/blkid.tab ? |
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| 07:37.50 | mercan | Hello! I've ben wondering how the patched, self-built packages are handled by apt. If there's a more recent version available, does it replace my patched packages? |
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| 07:38.12 | zebradog | nmind.. i see there are now new entries for it.. |
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| 07:40.35 | K`zan | Bop: Have you tried booting a live CD to see if the speakers work under that ? |
| 07:40.45 | Bop | not yet |
| 07:41.36 | K`zan | Only thing I could think of to try :-/ |
| 07:41.49 | K`zan | Speakers on the netbook are a waste here :). |
| 07:41.54 | zebradog | i get this could not state resume device file at startup.. what can i do? |
| 07:41.56 | zebradog | :( |
| 07:42.34 | K`zan | zebradog: On that one you got me, perhaps someone else has an I idea as I surely don't :-(. |
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| 07:42.55 | Bop | K`zan, it already worked, so they are fine |
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| 07:45.42 | R1ck | hey guys, im trying to automatically install postfix on a clean debian system, but it keeps asking me questions about what kind of setup I want and what the hostname of the machine is -- any idea how I can make it just get the default answers for those questions? I tried -y -q -q but it doesnt work |
| 07:46.29 | zebradog | i think i found it-- (was /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume) |
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| 07:49.02 | zebradog | nope that didnt do it.. still says that dumb popup |
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| 07:51.18 | zrin | I'm configuring a virtual machine as samba file server; it should use mirror of 2 volumes (LVM) as data storage - one is local on the server and one on the second physical server, exported with AoE. |
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| 07:51.43 | K`zan | R1ck: I think what it is asking for is simply not optional, you gotta know that info and tell postfix about it. |
| 07:52.21 | R1ck | K`zan: hmm dont think so. seeing the first option is "No configuration" :) |
| 07:52.43 | zrin | what is you opinion - shall I build the mirror (md-raid) on the physical server and put virtual disk on it, or should I export both volumes via AoE and build mirror on top of it in the virtual machine (samba file server)? |
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| 07:56.54 | K`zan | R1ck: Well, the MTA has to know what and who it is, otherwise it can't do anything. Need to do some research on this - can't be an auto install as it will not have a clue as to who it is and who it talks to, etc. |
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| 07:57.37 | R1ck | I know how an MTA works.. I also know its got to be possible somehow |
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| 07:58.36 | zrin | btw, I'm getting really nice performance with AoE and MTU 9000 and separate ethernet for it, over 30 MB/s throughput (writing) measured on the virtual machine using virtual hdd over AoE |
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| 07:59.41 | g0rd0n | hi there! i started a full smart check on my drive with smartctl... will it continue to run if ii reboot the machine? |
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| 08:00.29 | zrin | g0rd0n: probably not, but just start it again after reboot |
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| 08:00.48 | g0rd0n | nah ill wait then :) |
| 08:01.04 | g0rd0n | have some problems, looks like very buggy bios... |
| 08:01.19 | g0rd0n | now set noapic nolapic acpi=off in grub and hope that it will fix the problem |
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| 08:03.42 | jesselang | What's the best way to install testing when I can't boot a netinst from a usb stick? Can I do a netinst from CD? |
| 08:04.26 | jesselang | Oh, I think the small CD netinst will work. |
| 08:05.05 | R1ck | yup |
| 08:05.44 | jesselang | Got it. The web site sure could use some polish in the area of directing folks to the image they are looking for. |
| 08:05.48 | zebradog | gosh this resume issue is baffling |
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| 08:06.10 | K`zan | About fall over time, will try again tomorrow. Night all. |
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| 08:08.48 | zebradog | jesselang, lol |
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| 08:09.30 | zebradog | there dammit, just had to do update-initramfs -u ! |
| 08:09.32 | zebradog | lol |
| 08:09.39 | zebradog | mwahahahha |
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| 08:10.31 | mainiak | hi |
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| 08:14.40 | mainiak | quick question - when I type 'dpkg -l', what environment variables (or whatever) affect wide of columns? |
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| 08:20.41 | [Jasper] | hej guys, is it possible to limit people to their homedir |
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| 08:20.47 | [Jasper] | when they're using ssh? |
| 08:20.51 | unixp | Hi, do u know if on the debian lenny 5.0.4 netinstall cd the LXDE user interface is selectable? |
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| 08:21.31 | mainiak | Jasper - yes, but you have to use chroot |
| 08:22.06 | [Jasper] | hmm mainiak....I have this setuyp at the moment.....debian ....fastcgi php5 with suxec....users are via nss-mysql |
| 08:22.38 | mainiak | Jasper: some kind of hosting? :D |
| 08:22.49 | [Jasper] | yes mainiak |
| 08:23.08 | [Jasper] | I was thinking it might be nice for users to run some sort of script |
| 08:23.11 | [Jasper] | if they would need it.. |
| 08:23.21 | [Jasper] | don't know if it's too handy though.. |
| 08:23.23 | [Jasper] | so experimenting |
| 08:23.26 | [Jasper] | how would I set this chroot up? |
| 08:23.44 | mainiak | Jasper - and have you think about some other limitations for users? |
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| 08:23.52 | mainiak | ssh is quite powerful |
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| 08:24.53 | mainiak | there is some for example rssh which could restrict ssh access |
| 08:25.11 | mainiak | but openssh will has support directly in it |
| 08:25.22 | mainiak | chroot support |
| 08:25.40 | mainiak | but this is more usable for SFTP than ssh |
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| 08:26.06 | mainiak | normaly full ssh access is thing you DON'T WANT to give |
| 08:26.24 | mainiak | even in chroot COULD be dangerous |
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| 08:30.50 | [Jasper] | hmm |
| 08:30.51 | [Jasper] | k |
| 08:31.02 | [Jasper] | mainiak any idea why proftpd wouldn't see my nss-mysql users? |
| 08:31.09 | mainiak | :D |
| 08:31.19 | mainiak | cant' say really - few information |
| 08:31.20 | Worf | the usual balancing act between usability and security |
| 08:31.21 | mainiak | BUT |
| 08:31.40 | mainiak | maybe you should ask on proftpd channel |
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| 08:32.58 | mainiak | (have you built it correctly, it is configured for using nss? have you correct pam an /etc/host.conf setting?) |
| 08:33.32 | mainiak | anyone can help ME please? :D |
| 08:33.39 | [Jasper] | I didn't put pam-mysql on the system mainiak |
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| 08:34.20 | mainiak | you need only nss-mysql and /etc/host.conf correctly setup - not pam (I played with pgsql) |
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| 08:34.45 | mainiak | but proftpd should do lookup via pam or some internal method to mysql |
| 08:35.10 | mainiak | but this is what could be problem - I am not using mysql and proftpd |
| 08:35.27 | [Jasper] | ok |
| 08:35.28 | [Jasper] | got it working :P |
| 08:35.45 | [Jasper] | persistentpassword needed to be off for proftpd |
| 08:36.15 | [Jasper] | so it's gonan be hard to give them .ssh acces.. |
| 08:36.22 | [Jasper] | it's also quite a security issue |
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| 08:36.54 | mainiak | IMHO yes |
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| 08:46.03 | [Jasper] | mainiak do you know if theres a way in linux to limit disk space used by a certain director? |
| 08:46.13 | [Jasper] | proftpd has quote...but if someone uploads for example via paache webupload.. |
| 08:46.14 | mainiak | yes |
| 08:46.14 | [Jasper] | php |
| 08:46.16 | [Jasper] | how? |
| 08:47.04 | mainiak | disk quota - by ... fs or something in /etc/limits ? never used it |
| 08:48.45 | mainiak | maybe apache should have some file restriction - or probably not? |
| 08:49.04 | mainiak | it depends what FS are you using |
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| 08:49.50 | mainiak | http://www.google.cz/search?q=linux+limits&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a |
| 08:50.03 | mainiak | http://www.google.cz/search?hl=cs&client=firefox-a&hs=tti&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=linux+disk+quota&lr=&aq=f&aqi=g2&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= |
| 08:52.07 | mainiak | also there is php upload limit, but it is only for one file each |
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| 09:01.20 | [Jasper] | mainiak ext3 |
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| 09:02.02 | mainiak | sorry Jasper, I need to go - I think you could manage it from this point, don't you? ;-) |
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| 09:03.04 | mainiak | bye! |
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| 09:07.37 | e-anima | hi, i am a little confused. i put alias lal ='ls -al' into my .bashrc in my /root |
| 09:07.57 | e-anima | wehn i source the .bashrc it says alias not found |
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| 09:09.27 | STF | hi |
| 09:09.39 | e-anima | hi |
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| 09:10.26 | STF | how can i install a W-Lan-USB-stick under Debian lenny with the console |
| 09:10.40 | e-anima | u need to mount it |
| 09:10.45 | man8 | hi |
| 09:10.49 | STF | lol |
| 09:10.59 | e-anima | ? |
| 09:11.04 | e-anima | ops wlan |
| 09:11.08 | e-anima | i read usb stick ^^ |
| 09:11.11 | e-anima | sry |
| 09:11.16 | STF | ok |
| 09:11.16 | STF | :D |
| 09:11.28 | STF | and i get a wrong thought ;) |
| 09:11.30 | e-anima | never tried wlan with lenny |
| 09:11.40 | jelly | dpkg, tell STF about wireless |
| 09:11.44 | e-anima | no one has any idea about this strange "alias" problem |
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| 09:12.27 | e-anima | if i want an alias only for root i use the .bashrc in /root. right? -> alias foo='my command' |
| 09:12.28 | jelly | e-anima: use no spaces on either left or right side of = in alias assignment |
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| 09:13.21 | e-anima | hmmm then you cant alias "ls -al" |
| 09:13.26 | e-anima | no space is an error |
| 09:13.32 | jelly | you said, "alias lal ='ls -al'" <- there's a space between lal and = that shouldn't be there |
| 09:14.02 | jelly | sorry, I mean next to = |
| 09:14.29 | e-anima | oh jea. thank you. im a little bit slow this morning |
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| 09:15.21 | jelly | STF: use "/msg dpkg atheros" or similar to question the bot further |
| 09:15.32 | STF | thx |
| 09:15.42 | STF | the link with the debian wiki |
| 09:15.52 | STF | was a good one |
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| 09:28.35 | feitingen | is it a bad idea to use a common /var/cache/apt across different machines (all machines are running sid) |
| 09:29.33 | nsadmin | wow... did a bunch of name servers fall off the net?! |
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| 09:30.25 | tamash | no masters :) |
| 09:30.35 | liable | feitingen: how would you do that? and why? maybe an apt proxy would work for you? |
| 09:30.37 | nsadmin | what? really? |
| 09:30.41 | sep | feitingen, as long as you have locking, you should be ok |
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| 09:30.55 | sep | feitingen, i assume you use nfs. |
| 09:30.57 | Mowee | Hi hi |
| 09:31.31 | feitingen | sep: yes, and i wont be running apt on more machines at the same time |
| 09:31.48 | sep | feitingen, dont think that' |
| 09:31.56 | sep | feitingen, should be fine |
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| 09:32.12 | liable | i dont think it will work the way you think |
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| 09:32.58 | feitingen | liable: i am hoping to conserve bandwith by downloading each package only once, this wont work? |
| 09:33.12 | sep | feitingen, ooom you should do it for /var/cache/apt/archives only |
| 09:33.21 | pete_bop | does default debian install come with madwifi driver ..if not can i apt-get them ? |
| 09:33.21 | sep | not /var/cache/apt .... |
| 09:33.49 | nsadmin | so wait, something weird happen with dns? |
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| 09:33.53 | liable | feitingen: im not entirely sure, but yeah, thats why i suggested a proxy |
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| 09:34.34 | liable | feitingen: there is /var/lib/apt to take into account |
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| 09:35.09 | sep | sharing /var/cache/apt/archives should be ok as long as you have nfs locking, sharing /var/cache/apt would break for sure. |
| 09:35.22 | liable | i'm too rusty on my apt foo atm to know whether it would work or not, i have s sneaking feeling it wont |
| 09:36.46 | sep | if you only need to conserve download, and hd space is of no consequence. a proxy would be less likely to create conflicts (multiple apts trying to download same file at same time. into the same location ) |
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| 09:37.42 | feitingen | it seems to work so far, one machine completed upgrades, the next one does not download as many packages.. |
| 09:38.16 | liable | wait for it to break in a completely unexpected way :P |
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| 09:40.16 | feitingen | liable: i wonder if i will notice if(when?) it breaks |
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| 09:43.06 | feitingen | oh, and netbooting debian is genius, thanks to whoever made it so easy! |
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| 09:47.01 | feitingen | liable: for some reason apt-get sent me mail with changes in this update i just did (changelog, news, what's new) |
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| 09:48.01 | liable | as in real mail, not via a pager on screen? |
| 09:48.35 | feitingen | both, apt-listchanges :) |
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| 09:49.38 | feitingen | and it is actually interesting, this is a great feature! |
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| 09:54.45 | sep | feitingen, apticron on one of your machines will also send you mail when there are pending upgrades. and it will also have them downloaded in your shared apt archive for you. |
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| 09:56.53 | os_admin | hello |
| 09:57.10 | os_admin | have you any idea about how Installing the SSH key on a remote server |
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| 10:02.15 | grondilu | Hi, my xsession crashed after trying to reach http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ |
| 10:02.24 | grondilu | crunchpad-JooJoo-Preorders-iPad-HP-Slate,10037. html |
| 10:03.06 | grondilu | Here is my /var/log/Xorg.0.log :http://yourpaste.net/5283 |
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| 10:04.47 | feitingen | os_admin: ssh username@host -t "echo `cat .ssh/id_rsa.pub` >> .ssh/authorized_keys" |
| 10:04.47 | themill | !ssh-copy-id |
| 10:04.47 | dpkg | i heard ssh-copy-id is a utility to copy your SSH public key from your local machine to a remote machine, permitting key-authorised ssh connections to the remote machine. ssh-copy-id will copy the key to the right location and make sure the permissions are right. You may want to edit your ~/.ssh/config to tell ssh to use this key. <ssh permissions> <debug sshd> <ssh>. |
| 10:04.47 | themill | feitingen, os_admin: ^^ or better |
| 10:05.03 | grondilu | now startx fails to restart X |
| 10:05.21 | grondilu | How can I completely restart X server ? |
| 10:05.35 | feitingen | themill: thanks :D |
| 10:05.42 | the-dude | where can I get help about partman-auto |
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| 10:07.28 | jackz | raw1394 module not loaded or failure to read/ write /dev/raw1394 |
| 10:07.41 | jackz | is the message when I start kino |
| 10:08.31 | nsadmin | the-dude: give us a focused and complete idea of what you need and maybe here. |
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| 10:08.51 | jackz | modprobe raw1394 |
| 10:08.52 | jackz | FATAL: Module raw1394 not found. |
| 10:09.17 | Breaking_Pitt | i'm looking for help doing packages where I can ask for it? |
| 10:09.41 | nsadmin | you know about www.debian.org/devel |
| 10:09.44 | the-dude | nsadmin: Im trying to use partman-auto in a preseed file, but I don't get how it should be used |
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| 10:10.26 | grondilu | my X won't restart. Anyway to get it to work without rebooting tbe PC ? |
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| 10:10.49 | nsadmin | depends on why it won't restart |
| 10:10.50 | Breaking_Pitt | I know nsadmin but i have an error and i need some advice to know where to look for |
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| 10:10.54 | the-dude | nsadmin: I don't understand a rule like 64 512 300% linux-swap , first is minimum? second don't know, and last means 3x system memory ? |
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| 10:11.37 | grondilu | /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 10:11.38 | grondilu | http://yourpaste.net/5284 |
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| 10:12.31 | grondilu | "Fatal server error: lockup" |
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| 10:12.42 | grondilu | THere must be a lock somewhere that I should remove |
| 10:14.37 | nsadmin | the-dude there should be docs on preseed files somewhere |
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| 10:15.03 | the-dude | nsadmin: its very very very limited about partman-auto |
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| 10:15.25 | nsadmin | what do partman-auto docs say? |
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| 10:15.38 | the-dude | /usr/share/doc/debian-installer/devel has some info about it but not very clear |
| 10:15.52 | the-dude | only gives a few examples but not really how it should be used |
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| 10:16.11 | nsadmin | bbiaf |
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| 10:16.23 | jackz | FATAL: Module raw1394 not found. |
| 10:17.02 | jackz | damn |
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| 10:23.24 | grondilu | this makes me want to switch from Lenny to Squeeze. |
| 10:23.33 | grondilu | Here is my apt/preferences : http://yourpaste.net/5285 |
| 10:23.50 | grondilu | How can I change it to switch to Squeeze ? |
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| 10:27.24 | mainiak | hi again |
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| 10:27.40 | mainiak | anyone who could help me with dpkg -l column width? |
| 10:27.54 | mainiak | please :) |
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| 10:28.03 | nsadmin | what do you need? |
| 10:28.25 | nsadmin | give a focused and complete idea of what you need |
| 10:28.28 | mainiak | nsadmin: what affect width of columns of dpkg -l listing |
| 10:28.50 | nsadmin | column width is about terminals |
| 10:28.55 | mainiak | i have on some servers very narrow columns which cuts whole information |
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| 10:29.08 | nsadmin | so you can set the width for ANY command |
| 10:29.14 | nsadmin | by setting a var |
| 10:29.20 | mainiak | how? |
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| 10:29.38 | nsadmin | COLUMNS=putHereANumber command args |
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| 10:29.50 | mainiak | great! |
| 10:29.57 | nsadmin | try 200 |
| 10:29.58 | mainiak | thank you very much |
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| 10:31.13 | grondilu | "export COLUMNS={integer}" would work too I think |
| 10:31.14 | nsadmin | grondilu upgrading to (potentially) a less stable version of debian may or may not solve your problem |
| 10:31.25 | nsadmin | agreed |
| 10:31.50 | nsadmin | but really you want to keep COLUMNS from changing for all the rest of your apps |
| 10:31.53 | grondilu | yeah but I thought Squeeze might more performant, so... |
| 10:32.02 | nsadmin | maybe |
| 10:32.22 | grondilu | Is there a liveCD from Squeeze so that I could try it ? |
| 10:32.26 | nsadmin | you have to decide if it's worth a try to you |
| 10:32.30 | nsadmin | dunno. |
| 10:32.58 | mainiak | nsadmin: what does it mean dunno - sorry I am not native speaker |
| 10:33.03 | mainiak | ? |
| 10:33.19 | nsadmin | dunno? |
| 10:33.23 | nsadmin | don't know |
| 10:33.31 | mainiak | thank you :) |
| 10:33.37 | nsadmin | welcome |
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| 10:33.52 | nsadmin | what is your native (or preferred) language? |
| 10:34.19 | mainiak | my native is czech - but english (with some exceptions) is OK |
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| 10:35.48 | nsadmin | the-dude: show (a link to) some examples of partman-auto |
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| 10:36.28 | nsadmin | mainiak, ok... I don't know if there is a debian-czech channel or not |
| 10:36.56 | the-dude | nsadmin: http://pastebin.com/JMzi5L7Q |
| 10:37.15 | mainiak | nsadmin: no problem :D I only don't know some words or acronyms |
| 10:37.49 | mainiak | this is also way to learn language - more fun for me than sitting in school |
| 10:38.16 | mainiak | it's like programming - best way to learn it is use it ;-) |
| 10:39.13 | the-dude | nsadmin: /usr/share/doc/debian-installer/devel/partman-auto-recipe.txt.gz has some info as well |
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| 10:39.31 | feitingen | mainiak: interesting, i live in czech republic, and i am trying to learn czech |
| 10:39.47 | mainiak | feitingen: really? :) where? |
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| 10:40.09 | feitingen | mainiak: brno, going to ostrava sometimes |
| 10:40.19 | mainiak | and where are you from originaly? |
| 10:40.39 | nsadmin | the-dude: you're right, it's not immediately obvious what's what. I'm guessing, the more you understand recipes -generally-, the more you can apply and/or understand these recipes |
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| 10:40.42 | mainiak | feitingen: too far - I am in and from Pilsen (Plzen) |
| 10:41.30 | nsadmin | too far for walking? :) |
| 10:41.45 | mainiak | nsadmin: 2-3 hours in car :-P |
| 10:41.54 | nsadmin | that's far... |
| 10:42.10 | mainiak | nsadmin: and you came from? :) |
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| 10:42.23 | nsadmin | California! |
| 10:42.40 | nsadmin | It would be the bottom of the ocean I would have to walk! |
| 10:42.41 | mainiak | sunny stat isn't it? proud american also? :D |
| 10:42.58 | feitingen | mainiak: i am from norway, msg me if you go to brno for beer :) |
| 10:43.00 | nsadmin | prouder now that Obama is here |
| 10:43.14 | nsadmin | Bush can pee up a rope... |
| 10:43.15 | the-dude | nsadmin: Im using trial and error at the moment, and that doesn't really make sense either |
| 10:43.23 | mainiak | feitingen: ok :D |
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| 10:44.42 | grondilu | what are you proud of Obama of ? |
| 10:45.00 | nsadmin | getting in office for one |
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| 10:45.52 | nsadmin | also he has challenged the health care industry and is making progress |
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| 10:46.05 | feitingen | sometimes, when i am very hungover, i am proud of getting myself in the office |
| 10:47.12 | nsadmin | I mean, from a pure public-relations standpoint he's done amazingly well... he is an afro american with a muslim name that rhymes with osama |
| 10:47.36 | grondilu | health care is good intention, but it is going to cost you a lot. I'm french so I know this kind of policy. It's good as long as it holds. But you got to hope it won't bankrupt your country. |
| 10:47.38 | mainiak | nsadmin: which is something not nice? |
| 10:47.55 | nsadmin | you ever hear of osama bin laden? :) |
| 10:48.05 | themill | wonders if this is still #debian or if it suddenly changed to #debian-offtopic |
| 10:48.11 | mainiak | we say "usama" :D |
| 10:48.19 | mainiak | and I head about /bin/laden |
| 10:48.24 | mainiak | *heard |
| 10:48.38 | grondilu | « /bin/laden » LOL ! |
| 10:48.41 | nsadmin | o ok, so it doesn't quite rhyme... anyway, debian. |
| 10:49.20 | mainiak | themill: how have you done the invitation |
| 10:49.22 | mainiak | ? |
| 10:49.32 | mainiak | themill: anyway I am leaving ;-) |
| 10:51.03 | grondilu | Right now I am downloading debian-live-60alpha1-i386-lxde-desktop.iso. Do you think it will be possible to boot it directly from my HD using grub ? |
| 10:51.25 | mainiak | grondilu: maybe not grub but syslinux |
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| 10:51.31 | muffin2 | Hi |
| 10:51.42 | mainiak | nsadmin: anyway - thank you four help |
| 10:51.43 | mainiak | bye! |
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| 10:51.49 | nsadmin | welcome |
| 10:51.51 | muffin2 | I installed debian using debian installer CD to my usb drive. |
| 10:52.00 | muffin2 | I could boot into grub of usb. |
| 10:52.11 | nsadmin | ok |
| 10:52.23 | muffin2 | Selecting debian, grub fails to recognize the filesystem of ext3 partition of my usb drive. |
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| 10:52.26 | muffin2 | WTH |
| 10:52.31 | nsadmin | that's pretty good so far |
| 10:52.49 | muffin2 | nsadmin : Are you talking to me? |
| 10:53.08 | nsadmin | grub fails to recognize? what is the message? |
| 10:53.16 | muffin2 | something like filesystem unknown |
| 10:53.21 | pete_bop | iive edited inetd.conf how do i restart i in debian ? |
| 10:53.24 | muffin2 | partition type 0x07 |
| 10:53.34 | nsadmin | and how do you know grub is saying that? |
| 10:53.34 | muffin2 | That's it |
| 10:53.35 | grondilu | mainiak: will syslinux alter my grub config ? |
| 10:53.43 | the-dude | pete_bop: check /etc/init.d/ |
| 10:53.53 | muffin2 | nsadmin : It printed those messages for a short duration. |
| 10:54.24 | pete_bop | the-dude, i cant see inetd in init.d |
| 10:54.41 | muffin2 | nsadmin : should I set the filesystem to FAT32 or FAT16? |
| 10:55.03 | the-dude | pete_bop: check xinetd or openbsd-inetd |
| 10:55.04 | nsadmin | which filesystem is it trying? |
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| 10:55.21 | nsadmin | and where would it be mounted? |
| 10:55.27 | the-dude | pete_bop: you did install it right? |
| 10:55.28 | pete_bop | ok i see open-inetd thanks |
| 10:55.49 | muffin2 | nsadmin : ext3 on / |
| 10:56.08 | muffin2 | nsadmin : The usb drive has two partitions. (1) ext3 on / (2) swap partition |
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| 10:56.26 | muffin2 | They should be named /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdb2 since I boot using a usb drive. |
| 10:56.34 | zrin | I'm configuring a virtual machine as samba file server; it should use mirror of 2 volumes (LVM) as data storage - one is local on the server and one on the second physical server, exported with AoE. |
| 10:56.46 | zrin | what is you opinion - shall I build the mirror (md-raid) on the physical server and put virtual disk on it, or should I export both volumes via AoE and build mirror on top of it in the virtual machine (samba file server)? |
| 10:56.53 | nsadmin | what's sda? |
| 10:57.05 | muffin2 | nsadmin : /dev/sda is my harddisk |
| 10:57.15 | muffin2 | It should contain windows vista |
| 10:57.43 | nsadmin | ohh, is grub on sda or sdb? |
| 10:58.04 | muffin2 | It's on /dev/sdb(usb drive). |
| 10:58.14 | muffin2 | I don't want to install it to sda |
| 10:58.29 | muffin2 | since the usb drive is not always plugged in. |
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| 10:58.32 | nsadmin | could it be, that when grub runs, it thinks sda and sdb are swapped? |
| 10:58.41 | muffin2 | nsadmin : I am not sure |
| 10:59.02 | muffin2 | For test, I should change /dev/sdb to /dev/sda in grub. |
| 10:59.16 | nsadmin | there should be device.map |
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| 10:59.39 | muffin2 | But grub4dos on my other usb drive recognized itself as /dev/sdb |
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| 10:59.55 | Breaking_Pitt | someone knows what i need to change here? "native-package-with-dash-version" |
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| 11:00.00 | Breaking_Pitt | the name of the directory? |
| 11:00.13 | themill | Breaking_Pitt: the orig.tar.gz wasn't found in .. |
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| 11:00.24 | nsadmin | native packages have tarballs but no diff |
| 11:00.45 | Breaking_Pitt | and what makes the diff file? |
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| 11:00.57 | rzeka | ho |
| 11:01.03 | themill | Breaking_Pitt: it compares the orig.tar.gz to the directory you've been working in |
| 11:01.25 | muffin2 | nsadmin : I just read menu.lst in the usb drive installed with grub4dos, it recognizes itself as /dev/sda or (hd0). |
| 11:01.37 | muffin2 | nsadmin : I think I should change /dev/sdb to /dev/sda. |
| 11:02.35 | nsadmin | muffin2, tread carefully here... I'm not saying this will happen to you, but when I was setting up my laptop, similar circumstances overwrote my partition table |
| 11:03.03 | muffin2 | nsadmin : I keep that in mind. I need to go test. bye |
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| 11:12.05 | pete_bop | the-dude, can you give me the command to remove services at boot |
| 11:12.36 | pete_bop | i have domain,postgresql still running |
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| 11:14.21 | pete_bop | or anyone ? |
| 11:14.27 | mickqel | pete_bop: update-rc -f <service> remove |
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| 11:14.39 | mickqel | '-f' means force |
| 11:14.50 | pete_bop | mickqel, to put a service back how ? |
| 11:15.27 | mickqel | ... |
| 11:16.52 | mickqel | pete_bop: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Update-rc.d |
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| 11:17.22 | pete_bop | thanks mickqel |
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| 11:17.43 | dmgr | how can I make a quick CPU benchmark, not so verbose like lmbench? |
| 11:17.47 | pete_bop | mick you got a link to adding backports to source list ? |
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| 11:17.57 | dmgr | I want to compare some VPS hosting |
| 11:17.58 | themill | dpkg: tell pete_bop about bpo |
| 11:18.14 | mickqel | pete_bop: Google does. :) |
| 11:18.16 | pete_bop | thanks themill |
| 11:18.42 | dmgr | I built webapp that can serve 0.5 requests per second, and just wonder if the app is so slow or the CPU |
| 11:18.43 | themill | pete_bop: unsurprisingly, backports.org has a very good "instructions" page. |
| 11:19.05 | pete_bop | ok i will have a look themill |
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| 11:20.15 | xota | hi! I have a lenny installed but I need the vlc at sid, I've added the sid vlc line in sources, but I can't install it with aptitude install vlc-nox/sid |
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| 11:21.43 | babilen | !tell xota -about ssb |
| 11:21.52 | babilen | ,versions vlc |
| 11:21.54 | judd | vlc -- etch: 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-5.1+etch2; etch-security: 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-5.1+etch3; lenny: 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2; lenny-security: 0.8.6.h-4+lenny2; squeeze: 1.0.5-2; sid: 1.0.6-1 |
| 11:23.00 | babilen | xota: you have to backport it yourself, by following the instruction dpkg just told you about |
| 11:23.16 | xota | babilen: then, can't I install directly the sid version? |
| 11:23.24 | themill | I'm guessing that it's not going to be a very simple backport |
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| 11:24.17 | xota | I think that I will be use the sid version directly.... I only need the X and the VLC, so, it can't be very sid (unstable :p) |
| 11:24.41 | babilen | xota: No - That would pull in a bunch of dependencies from sid and you would essentially "upgrade" to sid. You could try backporting it, but as themill pointed out, that might not be particularly easy. Why do you *need* the version in *sid*? Would the one in squeeze be ok as well? |
| 11:25.23 | babilen | xota: Mixing releases is not a very good idea - especially mixing stable/sid |
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| 11:25.29 | xota | babilen: in the lenny version I haven't the cvlc (vlc without X) and it hasn't support to jpeg files |
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| 11:26.24 | xota | then, can I install directly the squeeze version? It could be enough for me |
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| 11:27.17 | babilen | xota: You might want to consider tracking squeeze or sid - but you would need a sound understanding of Linux, Debian and Debian packaging to do this. That said: I am running testing for some years now and never encountered a problem I could not fix .. |
| 11:28.19 | babilen | xota: Try backporting vlc and if that does not work out: Use a different media player (mplayer, xine inter alia) or track testing |
| 11:28.41 | xota | babilen: as I say, I only need the xserver with X (no desktops) and the vlc running from .xinitrc. I think that I will not have problems with the testing version |
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| 11:29.17 | babilen | xota: Good luck then - and don't complain when you run into problems ;) |
| 11:29.25 | themill | you'll basically be running squeeze by the time you do that. |
| 11:30.36 | xota | babilen: I'm only testing the good way to do that :p not complaining. Thanks! |
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| 11:31.40 | babilen | xota: 1. Try to backport the sid version or 2. Track squeeze - there is no other way that will not cause you (and us) horrible headaches |
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| 11:33.09 | xota | ok, first I will try to backport with the dpkg bot help |
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| 11:33.43 | themill | xota: you'll have to hack at debian/control to fiddle with the build-deps |
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| 11:34.53 | xota | themill: or... I can force install without tracking the deps? isn't a good way if I "know" that works? |
| 11:35.37 | themill | except it won't work. |
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| 11:41.15 | sohum | what does "bug archived" mean? |
| 11:41.37 | grondilu | that this bug has been archived. :-) |
| 11:41.59 | sohum | well, yes :P |
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| 11:42.13 | sohum | what does that mean for replying-to-it-ness and possible-fixing-ness? |
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| 11:42.23 | grondilu | Apart from GMail, anyone know a free smtp relay service ? |
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| 11:43.08 | sohum | because afaict, it wasn't marked as fixed first |
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| 11:45.01 | themill | bug number? |
| 11:45.06 | sohum | 535785 |
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| 11:47.26 | themill | sohum: have you verified that it's still a problem with the current version in sid? (5.04-2) |
| 11:48.18 | sohum | themill: yerp. |
| 11:48.47 | sohum | themill: still failing in exactly the way Eric Cooper details |
| 11:50.18 | themill | sohum: ok, so you should unarchive the bug, reopen it and add a new found in version header. If you can attach a couple of example files to the bug report to help with a reproduce case that would help too. Start with http://www.debian.org/Bugs/server-control#unarchive |
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| 11:50.53 | sohum | I can totally figure this out. |
| 11:50.58 | sohum | My first debian bug! this is exciting :D |
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| 11:51.35 | krisfremen | i wouldn't call a bug exciting... |
| 11:52.04 | themill | krisfremen: depends on the rest of your life's activities, really. It's all relative. |
| 11:52.49 | sohum | and how much value you place on the different things in your life, too. |
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| 11:53.14 | sohum | so I can just send an email to control@bugs.debian.org and it'll work? |
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| 11:54.33 | themill | sohum: yes, with the appropriate commands in the first few lines. Follow it by "quit" on the last line and offer further explanation as to your findings. Cc the bug too. |
| 11:55.10 | sohum | "the bug" as in 535785@bugs.debian.org ? |
| 11:55.36 | sohum | I mean, that'd make sense, just clarifying |
| 11:55.46 | nse | Is it possible to access the database of a server called Dreamhost from a script running on my home server in order to edit css on the fly; (i'm failing interrogative marks) |
| 11:56.13 | themill | sohum: yes. |
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| 11:57.08 | sohum | themill: danke. |
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| 12:01.19 | unixp | What issue could it be if i cant connect via vncviewer to an windows xp client: If i type "vncviewer 192.168.1.3:0" it says "Error: Can't open display: " ? |
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| 12:01.41 | laumonier | hi i have a problem when im trying to install debian with my usb key it says that i have not an iso image but i have one : debian-504-i386-CD-1.iso what can i do to make it works???? |
| 12:02.12 | themill | unixp: what are you running that command from? an ssh session? console? |
| 12:02.22 | unixp | themill, console |
| 12:02.28 | themill | that would be why... |
| 12:02.52 | unixp | themill, yesterday it worked well! but i've installed debian with lxde new |
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| 12:03.24 | fruitwerks | ok stupid question.. I happen to have v 5 of a program installed (recently) and I see version 5.6 is current for lenny.. am I missing something - because update wants to install the same version |
| 12:03.29 | unixp | themill, before i used debian with xfce |
| 12:04.19 | abrotman | fruitwerks: apt-cache policy foo |
| 12:04.31 | themill | unixp: you need to run vncviewer from within your x session not on console |
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| 12:05.23 | unixp | unixp, im in a x session of lxde |
| 12:05.31 | unixp | themill, im in a x session of lxde |
| 12:05.47 | fruitwerks | ahh.. is testing generally stable? |
| 12:05.51 | unixp | themill, and paste that from the standard shell |
| 12:05.54 | Ergo^ | is there anything special i need to do in iceweasel or chrome i need to do under lenny to use a proxy ? |
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| 12:06.02 | themill | so what does "echo $DISPLAY" show in that shell? |
| 12:06.30 | Ergo^ | from my home os i can connect to proxy server and authenticate, and from debian via VNC when i set proxy in browser settings no page doesnt work |
| 12:06.44 | unixp | themill, nothing, a blank space |
| 12:07.06 | hebz0rl | hello im using mysql on a current debian installation and i want to manage it with my ubuntu machine via ssh tunnel is used "ssh myuser@myserver -L 3306:localhost:3306 -N" to connect to the server but when i want to connect with mysql admin i just get Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) what can i do? |
| 12:07.25 | abrotman | fruitwerks: huh? how is that related? |
| 12:07.45 | unixp | themill, what should it show? |
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| 12:08.24 | unixp | themill, im running the standard lxde user interface and type the commands in the shell of it? Whats wrong? |
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| 12:08.37 | themill | unixp: if you're running this inside LXDE, it should show :0 |
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| 12:08.51 | fruitwerks | abrotman - the package version I want is labeled as testing, but I added testing to my sources.lost & updated, and it is not showing |
| 12:08.59 | fruitwerks | *sources.list |
| 12:10.05 | abrotman | fruitwerks: mixing stable and testing will break your system |
| 12:10.47 | fruitwerks | misses gentoo |
| 12:10.51 | fruitwerks | ok then |
| 12:10.56 | themill | fruitwerks: what package is this? |
| 12:11.16 | fruitwerks | mapserver* |
| 12:11.49 | fruitwerks | I think it would be pretty safe unless it needs a different glibc |
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| 12:13.54 | themill | fruitwerks: its dependencies on ruby might be hard to satisfy |
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| 12:14.44 | themill | ,builddep mapserver --release sid |
| 12:14.45 | judd | mapserver -- Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 7), dpatch, libcurl4-gnutls-dev, libpng12-dev, zlib1g-dev (>= 1.1.4), libgd2-xpm-dev (>= 2.0.1-10), libfreetype6-dev (>= 2.0.9), libjpeg62-dev, libgdal1-dev (>= 1.4.0), libproj-dev, libpq-dev, php5-dev, swig, python-all, python-all-dev, python-central (>= 0.5), libgeos-dev (>= 2.2.3-2), ruby1.8, ruby1.8-dev, ruby1.9.1, ruby1.9.1-dev, sharutils, libsdl1.2-dev, libx11-dev, (1 more message) |
| 12:14.59 | themill | wth does it build-dep on ruby1.8 and 1.9.1?.... |
| 12:15.03 | themill | shakes head |
| 12:15.09 | fruitwerks | - I'm on lenny |
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| 12:15.22 | themill | fruitwerks: yes, but it's the sid version you're wanting to build. |
| 12:15.39 | fruitwerks | oh ok |
| 12:15.54 | fruitwerks | will never be used to this lol |
| 12:16.21 | sohum | hm, cc'ing an archived bug doesn't work |
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| 12:16.33 | abrotman | wtf .. that's half the scripting languages in debian :) |
| 12:16.40 | sohum | "550 Unknown or archived bug (state 14)." |
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| 12:16.58 | abrotman | sohum: what did you try to send it ? |
| 12:17.17 | themill | sohum: ahh... of course. |
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| 12:18.17 | sohum | abrotman: I'm reopening an archived bug, as was suggested to cc the bug itself as well. the fact that I can't won't affect the reopening, will it? |
| 12:18.53 | abrotman | i'd imagine you could re-open then append if you really want |
| 12:19.24 | JyZyXEL | whats a good tool figuring out file differencies recursively? |
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| 12:19.37 | themill | JyZyXEL: diff? |
| 12:19.45 | JyZyXEL | like comparing two filesystems and then figuring out whats changed |
| 12:20.09 | JyZyXEL | diff is too low level |
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| 12:20.23 | themill | JyZyXEL: then you need to tell us wtf you mean by "good" then |
| 12:20.33 | themill | sohum: "X-Debbugs-CC: nnn@debian.org" would probably have worked... but you can just resend your mail to the bug once it's been unarchived. |
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| 12:20.52 | aguitel | anyone set swapp=off in eeepc ? |
| 12:20.53 | Pierreb | is there any way to check what isp if i dont know? |
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| 12:21.52 | cVsup | somebody know tool to export ldap to Active Directory? |
| 12:21.58 | unixp | what must i do to change the user interface from lxde to xfce? |
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| 12:24.33 | sohum | themill: yea... hm. my explanation text after the thanks doesn't seem to be visible in the web interface. is it supposed to be? |
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| 12:25.26 | sohum | themill: oh, I see, the cc'ing of that bug does that |
| 12:25.36 | fruitwerks | hmm.. any up-to-date guides on making a self-signed ssl cert? I found two and they mention commands I don't have, and they don't mention installing anything special for those |
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| 12:25.48 | abrotman | Pierreb: check the hops ? |
| 12:26.01 | themill | sohum: your explanation text was never successfully send to the bug. (it's hidden away in the control messages but you might like to send it to the bug again to make sure people see it) |
| 12:26.22 | pixil | fruitwerks: Is openssl installed? |
| 12:26.33 | sohum | themill: now there is a useless message (#39) that I really would prefer is not visible. any way to remove it? |
| 12:26.44 | themill | sohum: no, and don't worry about it. |
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| 12:27.09 | sohum | themill: fair enough. so in future, unarchive first, then explanation text. |
| 12:27.10 | JyZyXEL | what tool could i use to do a metadata based comparison between two almost identical 1 TB filesystems, i would like to get a list of the files that differ and the info what attribute of the metadata is different about them |
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| 12:27.25 | zorrolero | aguitel: yes |
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| 12:27.42 | themill | sohum: or use X-Debbugs-Cc rather than just Cc in the pseudo headers that you are sending to control |
| 12:27.47 | aguitel | zorrolero, how do you do that |
| 12:28.00 | fruitwerks | pixil - yes |
| 12:28.05 | sohum | themill: right, ok. thanks! |
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| 12:28.57 | sohum | fruitwerks: you could always apt-cache search for the missing binarys' names |
| 12:28.57 | abrotman | fruitwerks: make-ssl-cert ? |
| 12:29.16 | abrotman | fruitwerks: have you seen the Debian Reference Card ? |
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| 12:29.21 | zorrolero | aguitel: don't create a swap-partition |
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| 12:29.45 | aguitel | zorrolero, i have swapp |
| 12:29.51 | themill | !self-signed ssl key |
| 12:29.51 | dpkg | openssl genrsa 1024 > server.key; openssl req -new -key server.key -x509 -days 365 -out server.crt; Alternatively, use the make-ssl-cert utility from the ssl-cert package. <make-ssl-cert> |
| 12:30.16 | fruitwerks | .. sounds like that is what I needed.. thanks |
| 12:30.47 | zorrolero | aguitel: delete it and append the free space to the nextfs-partition...don't forget to expand the size of the fs. |
| 12:30.55 | themill | fruitwerks: actually, you probably want to /msg dpkg make-ssl-cert |
| 12:31.55 | aguitel | zorrolero, what is nextfs-partition ? |
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| 12:33.40 | zorrolero | aguitel: i mean the next partition with a filesystem |
| 12:34.11 | aguitel | zorrolero, i make 2 partition / and swapp |
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| 12:35.05 | simonrvn | i use gnomint |
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| 12:37.10 | zorrolero | aguitel: so delete your swap-partition and grow your root-partition |
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| 12:39.05 | aguitel | zorrolero, i need to make this with "live -usb" and gparted ? |
| 12:39.23 | laumonier | i have a problem with installing debian on my usb key it says that i have not iso file on my key but i have one why it dont work?????? |
| 12:39.36 | abrotman | !tell laumonier about usb install |
| 12:40.35 | ongolaBoy | hello. I want to create a local mirror and my script need the public key used to sign archive. WHere should I retrieve it ? |
| 12:40.42 | laumonier | i use unetbootin to prepare my key |
| 12:40.45 | zorrolero | aguitel: yep, a livesystem with gparted is a good idea |
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| 12:41.24 | laumonier | do you think i use a bad image????? |
| 12:41.34 | themill | ongolaBoy: it needs to be your public key that is signing the archive and then you need your clients to trust that key. |
| 12:41.43 | simonrvn | !ep |
| 12:41.43 | dpkg | Please stop using excessive punctuation. One exclamation point, question mark, period, ellipsis, comma, hyphen or interrobang is more than sufficient. Using excess punctuation means that you're more likely to be ignored by those who actually can help you, as it makes it difficult to see what you're actually asking. Continued use of excessive punctuation may result in a ban. |
| 12:42.11 | feitingen | thanks, simonrvn |
| 12:42.51 | wols | themill: I rather sign something with my private key, thank you |
| 12:43.07 | themill | wols: hehe... rather |
| 12:43.24 | simonrvn | rather</accent> |
| 12:43.47 | ongolaBoy | but where can I get lenny key for instance ? |
| 12:44.31 | abrotman | ongolaBoy: why do you want a local mirror? in most cases a caching apt proxy is more than sufficient |
| 12:45.22 | wols | laumonier: we think you used unetbootin an dnow it doesn't work. use what abrotman told you instead |
| 12:45.34 | themill | ongolaBoy: you can't get the key used to sign the archive. It would be really really bad to distribute that to anyone who wanted it. Think about that for a bit... |
| 12:45.57 | abrotman | i have three copies! |
| 12:45.58 | sep | ongolaBoy, you can't re-sign the archive, you would need to sync the archive with the signed releases files |
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| 12:46.03 | laumonier | ok thanks for the answer |
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| 12:47.48 | ongolaBoy | abrotman: I want to share my content across sub-network ; do apt-proxy better ? |
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| 12:48.13 | abrotman | ongolaBoy: my personal experience was better with approx, but apt-proxy should work |
| 12:48.29 | themill | ongolaBoy: are these your own packages you're putting in the repo or are you redistributing the standard debian packages? |
| 12:48.34 | abrotman | ongolaBoy: roughly, it will cache packages you install .. it works pretty well for a slow link when all your machines use it |
| 12:48.55 | abrotman | ongolaBoy: so for instance, if you've got a security update for the kernel, you'd download the -686 fix once instead of 20 times or whatever |
| 12:49.06 | ongolaBoy | themill: I'm redistributing the standard packages |
| 12:49.34 | abrotman | then a proxy is a much better idea |
| 12:49.40 | themill | ongolaBoy: then a proxy is a much better ida |
| 12:49.48 | abrotman | wins |
| 12:49.48 | themill | *snap* |
| 12:49.52 | ongolaBoy | :) |
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| 12:53.49 | ongolaBoy | I should mention that I do not have a reliable and permanent internet connection. That's why I was thinking to mirroring packages |
| 12:54.23 | sep | ongolaBoy, use a proxy |
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| 12:54.52 | abrotman | ongolaBoy: the mirror sync is a much longer process |
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| 12:55.22 | sep | a mirror would make you sync thousands of packages you do not need and realy waste your bandwith |
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| 12:55.36 | ongolaBoy | ok guys ; thanks for your advices I will use apt-proxy :) |
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| 12:56.26 | ongolaBoy | by the way, I heard about apt-cacher too ... is it better ? |
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| 12:56.48 | HandyGandy | Is there a wya to search multiple pdf documents for a string? Prefferably from the command line? |
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| 12:57.55 | Ergo^ | any ideas why on my lenny box i cant connect to a proxy (with authentication), nothing shows up, and on other pcs i can do that just fine ? |
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| 12:58.57 | abrotman | ongolaBoy: i'll say it again .. i had much better luck with approx |
| 12:58.59 | R1ck | hm, preseed option doesnt seem to work, no request is made to the webserver: |
| 12:59.03 | R1ck | APPEND vga=normal initrd=debian-installer/i386/initrd.gz preseed/url=http://10.0.1.10/d-i/lenny/preseed-x86.cfg |
| 12:59.11 | R1ck | am I specifying it wrong? |
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| 12:59.46 | themill | HandyGandy: you're likely to have to script something that uses pdftotext to extract the text first. There are also desktop search utilities that do this for you with an index to speed lookup. |
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| 13:02.16 | BlackFate | HandyGandy: you need to convert pdfs to text den search with grep -l string * |
| 13:02.33 | wols | pdfs are gzipped IIRC |
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| 13:02.56 | wols | so it might work to zgrep them |
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| 13:03.33 | themill | HandyGandy: and to complicate things, PDFs can often contain images of the text not the text itself... ;( |
| 13:03.46 | robo | hi: i am trying to mount an external hard drive using usb. when i plug it in and do a lsusb it shows the drive. dmesg shows it mounted as hdb, but when i run mount -t reiserfs /dev/hdb /foo it fails |
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| 13:03.50 | Titan8990 | and "active" content |
| 13:04.02 | BlackFate | HandyGandy: 2 commands to convert.. pdf2ps and ps2ascii |
| 13:04.06 | laumonier | how can i join dpkg plz |
| 13:04.10 | HandyGandy | wols: Today is April 29. |
| 13:04.14 | Titan8990 | robo: with what error? |
| 13:04.37 | robo | wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb |
| 13:04.39 | Titan8990 | robo: also, you should be trying to mount a partition, not the entire drive |
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| 13:04.48 | HandyGandy | I was hoping there might be some pdf tool to do it, |
| 13:04.51 | dancek | Hi! |
| 13:04.55 | Titan8990 | robo: example: /dev/hdb1 |
| 13:04.58 | robo | Titan8990, yeah, when i try to mount sdb1 it shows mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist |
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| 13:05.34 | Titan8990 | robo: well, if your drive is hdb, the partition is not going to be sdb1 (which would be a different drive) |
| 13:05.48 | robo | Titan8990, true.. but dmesg shows it as a usb attached scsi device |
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| 13:06.19 | HandyGandy | Oh wow. O'Reilly has a book "pdf hacks" |
| 13:06.20 | johnfg | Anyone know how to fix a new squeeze installation not accepting my username and password? |
| 13:06.30 | robo | it shows [ 1451.180051] usb 1-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address -- then [ 1456.334947] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk a bit later |
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| 13:07.08 | BlackFate | robo try fdisk -l /dev/sdb |
| 13:07.14 | BlackFate | to see available paretitions |
| 13:07.25 | themill | HandyGandy: "find . -name \*.pdf -exec zgrep -li searchterm {} +" seems to work for a few PDFs I have here. ymmv. |
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| 13:07.36 | dancek | I used Debian as my primary OS in 2003-2007 and have been using Mac OS X since then. Now I'm thinking about going back to a FLOSS OS. I've done quite a few Ubuntu installs in the last couple of years and it certainly seems easy (as in just works). Convince me that I should rather go for Debian. :) |
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| 13:07.51 | robo | BlackFate, that came back with nothing |
| 13:08.10 | robo | fdisk -l doesn't even show sdb.. hrmp |
| 13:08.23 | BlackFate | robo: could you paste the output? |
| 13:08.30 | Titan8990 | !tell dancek about why debian |
| 13:08.41 | BlackFate | !paste |
| 13:08.41 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>. |
| 13:08.49 | robo | sure BlackFate, sec |
| 13:09.09 | BlackFate | robo: as root |
| 13:09.38 | feitingen | !tell feitingen about why debian |
| 13:09.50 | robo | BlackFate, http://paste.debian.net/71041/ |
| 13:09.53 | Titan8990 | !tell feitingen about selftell |
| 13:09.56 | robo | oh, i ran sudo |
| 13:10.00 | R1ck | "append vga=normal initrd=debian-installer/i386/initrd.gz preseed/url=http://10.0.1.10/d-i/lenny/preseed-x86.cfg" the installer doesnt even do a http request.. what am I doing wrong? |
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| 13:10.19 | robo | BlackFate, but as root the output is exactly the same |
| 13:10.37 | BlackFate | robo: try reattaching your device |
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| 13:11.14 | dancek | Titan8990, thanks... basically I'd go for sid so stability over Ubuntu isn't a bonus for me. I know ~all about apt but ubuntu shares all the benefits. Guess I'll read those links though :) |
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| 13:11.26 | BlackFate | robo: sudo is the same as running it as root |
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| 13:13.44 | sohum | I sent some info to <bugno>@bugs.debian.org about 45 minutes ago, got my confirmation 40 minutes ago, and it's yet to show up on the web interface. is this normal? |
| 13:13.45 | BlackFate | dancek: if you are a former mac user go with ubuntu.. im sure the buttons to the left will help :P. But if you like latest software and you are willing to configure the system on your own go with sid |
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| 13:14.20 | themill | sohum: seems to be there when I look at it |
| 13:16.15 | sohum | themill: huh, it's there now. a weird caching thing, maybe. thanks! |
| 13:16.23 | themill | np |
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| 13:18.34 | dancek | BlackFate, I'm really looking for something that *can* be configured but that doesn't *have to* be. |
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| 13:19.03 | dancek | Back in the days Debian certainly had to be configured to get a good desktop os, dunno about now. |
| 13:19.29 | BlackFate | dancek: ever tried sidux? |
| 13:19.41 | themill | dancek: if you want things to just work, then you should be using stable, not sid. |
| 13:20.14 | fasta | themill, that is a fantasy too. |
| 13:20.16 | dancek | Well, I'd also like to have a good software development platform and often having bleeding edge stuff is kinda required. |
| 13:20.26 | themill | fasta: eh? |
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| 13:20.37 | dancek | BlackFate, no, I haven't. Isn't it a live distro? |
| 13:20.42 | fasta | themill, stable might be useful for a server, but for software development it is useless. |
| 13:20.43 | janis | how can I force aptitude to do what I tell it? It always stupidly corrects me. |
| 13:20.47 | themill | dancek: not if you want others to be able to use your work. There's no point in using libraries that are only available to the bleeding edge |
| 13:20.51 | themill | fasta: bs |
| 13:21.06 | janis | I don't care if it has to remove 100 more packages! I WANT IT to REMOVE the one I tell it!! |
| 13:21.06 | themill | janis: can you pastebin an example? |
| 13:21.26 | janis | how can I pastebin you an ncurses prog? |
| 13:21.37 | themill | janis: use it from the command line |
| 13:21.54 | themill | janis: the output of "aptitude remove the-package-you-want-to-remove" |
| 13:21.56 | BlackFate | dancek: i use it as my main.. mainly its a debian sid with an extra repo. It's desktop oriented. |
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| 13:22.25 | Titan8990 | !sidux |
| 13:22.26 | dpkg | from memory, sidux is a live distribution <based on Debian> Sid, with a special focus on clean and easy hard disk installation. It is <OT> in #debian. Please /join #sidux on irc.oftc.net. |
| 13:22.31 | dancek | themill, the bleeding edge is usually incorporated into the next stable release... And almost no upstream wants patches for old versions. |
| 13:22.43 | dancek | BlackFate, ok, gotta look into it. |
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| 13:24.14 | themill | dancek: you don't have to develop against the source that is lenny. There's frequently absolutely no reason at all why you can't work from git/svn/whatever and compile and test on lenny just fine. |
| 13:24.44 | fasta | themill, for the base system lenny is just fine, sure. |
| 13:25.06 | janis | ok themill, here is a crude example http://pastebin.com/UqU20BXB |
| 13:25.11 | fasta | themill, but you tend to have to build more from source in that case. |
| 13:25.21 | Titan8990 | dancek: there is even pbuilder that will build your package in a chroot for the arch of your choice |
| 13:25.47 | Titan8990 | s/arch/release |
| 13:25.52 | Titan8990 | ... arch too but not the point |
| 13:25.54 | themill | janis: "aptitude remove udev"... you are kidding, aren't you? |
| 13:25.55 | dancek | Titan8990, yeah, I know about it, I'm somewhat familiar with how .debs are usually built |
| 13:26.31 | janis | actually, no.. I can't downgrade it: http://pastebin.com/PQLTMq9a |
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| 13:26.53 | janis | so, I will remove and then reinstall it, but install a previous version. |
| 13:27.07 | themill | janis: ahh... at last... we get your real question. /msg dpkg squeeze udev |
| 13:27.28 | janis | aptitude install udev=0.125-7+lenny3 fails.. |
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| 13:27.57 | Titan8990 | your likely not running lenny anymore |
| 13:28.09 | _toby_ | anyone tell me how to get madwifi driver |
| 13:28.34 | Titan8990 | !madwifi |
| 13:28.35 | dpkg | [madwifi] the <non-free> legacy driver for Atheros 802.11a/bg PCI wireless LAN chipsets. To install on Lenny, ask me about <madwifi-install> or follow the instructions at http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/ath_pci . http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/Support #madwifi on irc.freenode.net. Removed from Debian post-Lenny to resolve bug #519446; Squeeze users, ask me about <ath5k> or <ath9k> (802.11n). |
| 13:28.54 | _toby_ | thanks Titan8990 |
| 13:29.02 | janis | themill, I don't obviously want to upgrade it if I can't use the kernel that I (for a reason) chose to use, even though, yes, aptitude correctly knows I have installed the newer one.. |
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| 13:29.15 | denysonique | hi |
| 13:29.22 | janis | sorry for the tone.. |
| 13:29.24 | themill | janis: have you read the error message you just pasted? |
| 13:29.25 | Titan8990 | _toby_: however, unless your doing it for the injection support, you want ath5k/9k instead |
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| 13:29.40 | janis | yep, unless there is some hidden message |
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| 13:29.44 | \amethyst | janis: did 149-2 work? If so dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/udev_149-2_i386.deb |
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| 13:30.12 | denysonique | I can't find a netinstall for the testing debian release, I can I choose from the netinstall which version of debian I want to install? |
| 13:30.17 | _toby_ | yeah Titan8990 injection and distance ath_pci seems to work better for me |
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| 13:30.56 | Oleg | my cron jobs don't work |
| 13:31.04 | wols | denysonique: install stable and upgrade |
| 13:31.16 | denysonique | wols, thanks |
| 13:31.22 | Oleg | even if I edit crontab or put the file into /etc/cron.daily |
| 13:31.30 | BlackFate | Oleg: ps -ef | grep cron |
| 13:31.40 | janis | themill, it says if I upgrade to 151 my current kernel will fail. Though, it has half installed some udev, and I can't seem to find a way to do anything unless I apt-get install -f, which fails |
| 13:31.40 | wols | Titan8990: ath5k can't inject? i thought there were patches |
| 13:31.54 | Titan8990 | wols: they can but supossidly not as well |
| 13:31.57 | Oleg | BlackFate, root /usr/sbin/cron |
| 13:32.02 | janis | I can also Not uninstall the half installed one, or downgrade it. so? |
| 13:32.06 | BlackFate | Oleg: then it does |
| 13:32.14 | themill | janis: do you have a a squeeze kernel installed already as dpkg suggested? |
| 13:32.24 | Oleg | but nothing works |
| 13:32.24 | wols | Titan8990: http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=ath5k |
| 13:32.29 | janis | yes, but I want to use the one I currently use |
| 13:32.36 | abrotman | Oleg: what's the name of the script ? |
| 13:32.47 | janis | or else some custom modules don't compile |
| 13:32.49 | BlackFate | Oleg: are your files executable? |
| 13:33.05 | janis | actually, my current one is a squeeze kernel |
| 13:33.33 | Oleg | abrotman, automysqlbackup |
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| 13:33.36 | janis | 2.6.26-2. However, udev seems to be sure my current one is not compatible |
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| 13:33.42 | Titan8990 | wols: ah, so it works but requires an additional patch to work properly... |
| 13:33.45 | Oleg | BlackFate, rwxr-xr-x |
| 13:33.51 | abrotman | Oleg: and it's +x and you're using full paths to binaries ? |
| 13:33.59 | themill | janis: is this a local machine or a remote machine? |
| 13:34.05 | BlackFate | Oleg: did you try crontab? |
| 13:34.16 | janis | my own local one, I have physical |
| 13:34.20 | janis | access |
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| 13:35.01 | themill | janis: ok, so do exactly what the error message tells you to do and then install a new kernel immediately afterwards prior to rebooting. You may lose network access following the udev upgrade. |
| 13:35.02 | Oleg | abrotman BlackFate yes to both |
| 13:35.08 | janis | Can't I just remove any curent udev with all dependencies and then install my plain old working 149 one? |
| 13:35.29 | janis | themill, will I then be able to dongrade it? |
| 13:35.36 | wols | janis: then why would you want to run squeeze in the first place when you don't want its essential packages? |
| 13:35.44 | themill | janis: you don't need to downgrade it |
| 13:35.46 | abrotman | Oleg: can you put the script in a pastebin ? |
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| 13:36.11 | Oleg | abrotman, sure but when I run the script manually it works fine |
| 13:36.13 | janis | ok, themill will I then be still able to use this kernel - 2.6.26? (udev clearly states that I wont) |
| 13:36.20 | Titan8990 | Oleg: the crontabs in /etc must end in a newline. make sure they do |
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| 13:36.30 | BlackFate | Oleg: crontab -e as user and add this line... */1 * * * * touch ~/testfile123 |
| 13:36.32 | wols | janis: why don't you install whichever udev you want? hint: apt is the wrong way to do that |
| 13:36.36 | janis | let me stress this: in the next kernel, 2.6.32, certain modules of mine Don't compile |
| 13:36.40 | themill | janis: janis: ok, so do exactly what the error message tells you to do and then install a new kernel immediately afterwards prior to rebooting. You may lose network access following the udev upgrade. |
| 13:36.47 | BlackFate | Oleg: if it creates this file within one minute something is wrong with your script |
| 13:36.53 | janis | ok, I will |
| 13:37.35 | Oleg | BlackFate, testfile is there |
| 13:37.42 | abrotman | waits for his paste |
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| 13:38.20 | Oleg | abrotman, http://pastebin.com/aadXmD4a |
| 13:38.39 | Oleg | son of a... I swear I had a new line at the end |
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| 13:39.03 | Oleg | wait... I do, when I open the file in nano, there is one |
| 13:39.06 | abrotman | Oleg: found your error ? |
| 13:39.50 | Oleg | abrotman, I thought my error was no new line at the end, but I actually do have one, so no, I didn't find it |
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| 13:40.03 | Oleg | but like I said, it runs fine when I run it manually |
| 13:40.17 | abrotman | Oleg: try setting the path at the top ? |
| 13:40.44 | Oleg | abrotman, this is my crontab says, 15 5 * * * /home/soykoo/automysqlbackup.sh >> /dev/null 2>&1 |
| 13:41.17 | Oleg | but line 138 and 139 say that I shouldn't have a .sh at the end |
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| 13:42.24 | \amethyst | Oleg: which crontab is it in, user or system? |
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| 13:42.38 | Oleg | and how do I tell? |
| 13:42.55 | abrotman | Oleg: which file is that in ? |
| 13:42.56 | \amethyst | Oleg: how did you add it to the crontab? |
| 13:43.07 | Oleg | crontab -e |
| 13:43.10 | dancek | BlackFate, I guess I'll try out sidux, thanks for the tip! |
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| 13:43.33 | \amethyst | Oleg: okay, so that's a user crontab and it should be fine |
| 13:43.50 | \amethyst | Oleg: try adding it without the >>/dev/null 2>&1 so you can at least see if there are errors |
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| 13:44.24 | Oleg | \amethyst, yes it should but its not, and where do the errors go? /var/log/messages? |
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| 13:45.16 | \amethyst | Oleg: to the user's email |
| 13:45.36 | Oleg | I don't have mail setup |
| 13:45.41 | Oleg | don't want it to run |
| 13:45.47 | \amethyst | Oleg: /var/mail/<username> |
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| 13:46.14 | Oleg | :-( |
| 13:46.19 | Oleg | now I feel stupid |
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| 13:46.44 | BlackFate | :P |
| 13:47.07 | janis | themill, I read the message again. It clearly urges us Not to upgrade this way. |
| 13:47.22 | janis | I won't risk braking my current kernel |
| 13:47.28 | Oleg | Permission denied |
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| 13:47.38 | Oleg | soykoo doesn't have rights to write to that directory |
| 13:47.48 | Titan8990 | janis: these things should be taken into consideration prior to upgrading to testing |
| 13:48.01 | mgiammarco | hello, in gnome keyboard I have only "generic keyboard" What is the debian package to add all keyboards? |
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| 13:49.09 | janis | Titan8990, well, can I automatically reset those 7-9 packages requiring me to use the newer (and defunct) udev to their previous, working versions? or do I proceed by hand? that was the initial question |
| 13:49.11 | BlackFate | mgiammarco: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration |
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| 13:50.21 | Titan8990 | janis: my suggestion is to fully upgrade or restore from a backup and run stable |
| 13:50.26 | mgiammarco | BlackFate thanks I try now |
| 13:50.46 | themill | janis: you can try "/msg dpkg partial downgrade" but I doubt you're going to get this to work at all. What Titan8990 said. |
| 13:51.40 | Titan8990 | janis: the new udev is not defunct |
| 13:51.51 | janis | Titan8990, is it rally this importand? do you realise how much work that is?? and all this for just 6-7 packages!? (only udev is important, the rest are just candy and gnome helpers) It is really too hard to believe it! are you this certain?! |
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| 13:52.39 | Titan8990 | janis: I suppose what I am trying to say is that if you want to do it, do it yourself. I will not support it |
| 13:52.40 | janis | Titan8990, for me it is, I NEED this version of the kernel, or my drivers DONT work. |
| 13:52.50 | themill | janis: you probably have many dozens of packages already installed from squeeze already. |
| 13:52.58 | janis | ah, ok, this is a fair answer |
| 13:53.05 | themill | janis: wth did you try upgrading to squeeze then? |
| 13:53.15 | Titan8990 | janis: you should have thought about that before a testing upgrade. even if you did not know about this particular issue, you should have known there _would_ be issues |
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| 13:53.25 | Bisu[Shield] | my office is purchasing new laptops and price is not a factor as of late what is the best on the market, if you have a link to a benchmark comparison please provide |
| 13:53.38 | janis | themill, i didn't just upgrade to sqeezze, I was already on squeeze, I am just updating |
| 13:54.04 | themill | janis: not if you're still running a lenny kernel, you're not. |
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| 13:58.10 | janis | I take full responsibility of my actions. Now, do you know of any way to force aptitude to remove everything related to udev? If I won't be able to reboot, I will still thank you. |
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| 13:58.24 | janis | I want advice on the tool, not as for what to do. |
| 13:59.13 | BlackFate | janis: you can always chroot and restore |
| 13:59.31 | BlackFate | apt-get purge udev and then apt-get autoremove |
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| 13:59.43 | BlackFate | boot live cd... chroot and force lenny version |
| 14:00.08 | metalfan_ | idoru, why was bisus question regarded as spam? |
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| 14:01.29 | unixp | hey knows s.o. to add a theme/style on Openbox? |
| 14:01.30 | themill | metalfan_: probably cross-posted in several channels. |
| 14:01.44 | metalfan_ | ah |
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| 14:01.50 | unixp | i've downloaded it, but dont know where to install |
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| 14:05.55 | unixp | whats the easy command to copy folders? |
| 14:05.55 | abrotman | cp |
| 14:05.59 | Titan8990 | unixp: try an openbox specific channel. although, it will likely be ~/.themes |
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| 14:06.03 | simNIX | rsync -avlx /somefoleder/ /toanother/folder/ |
| 14:06.04 | feitingen | cp -r |
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| 14:06.10 | unixp | y thx |
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| 14:06.16 | simNIX | rsync you could also do: |
| 14:06.27 | simNIX | rsync -avlx /somefoleder/ anotherboxsip:/toanother/folder/ |
| 14:06.33 | Titan8990 | simNIX: and what does he want to hardlink instead of copy? |
| 14:06.37 | Titan8990 | s/what/why |
| 14:06.52 | BlackFate | Titan8990: snapshots |
| 14:07.17 | simNIX | rsnapshot does also hardlinks so I asume rsync can - never needed thatg myself |
| 14:07.20 | Titan8990 | I use hardlinking for backups.. but that doesn't seem to be the case here |
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| 14:07.38 | simNIX | rsnapsot does with rsync |
| 14:07.47 | simNIX | which harlinks |
| 14:08.01 | simNIX | I let pc run rsnapshot daily |
| 14:08.24 | BlackFate | simNIX: you can always rsync -av and then cp -al |
| 14:08.29 | Titan8990 | simNIX: I misread your orginal sentence... I misread it as cp -l, which would hardlink instead of copy |
| 14:08.40 | simNIX | aha |
| 14:08.48 | simNIX | np |
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| 14:10.03 | johnfg | I had quite a conversation, mainly with nsadmin last night about this, but any ideas about why I can't login, as anyone, to a new squeeze installation? Or how to fix the problem? |
| 14:10.38 | Titan8990 | johnfg: what do the logs say after you try? |
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| 14:11.41 | wols | johnfg: let me guess: amd64? |
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| 14:13.11 | unixp | i want to install a theme for openbox. i've downloaded a theme and unpacked it to /usr/share/themes. but if i want to install them with Obconf tool, i cant choosen it ... what must i do? |
| 14:13.46 | Titan8990 | unixp: you typically install themes to your home directory. I already recommended finding an openbox specific channel |
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| 14:14.47 | unixp | i thought to do from http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Themes#Theme_installation |
| 14:16.05 | BlackFate | !openbox | unixp |
| 14:16.12 | BlackFate | !openbox |
| 14:16.12 | dpkg | it has been said that openbox is an X window manager, originally based on <Blackbox> 0.65.0, then rewritten in C, no code based on Blackbox since v3.0. http://wiki.debian.org/Openbox http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:FAQ http://www.openbox.org/ #openbox on irc.oftc.net. |
| 14:16.14 | abrotman | uh ... |
| 14:16.18 | unixp | there only 5 members BlackFate .... |
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| 14:16.27 | abrotman | unixp: on irc.oftc.net .. and there's a #debian over there too |
| 14:16.34 | unixp | k |
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| 14:20.04 | unixp | where are you from in this channel most? |
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| 14:20.40 | CodeNinja | how do I set the title of the gnome-terminal tabs per tab? |
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| 14:21.05 | CodeNinja | 10 tabs with names that are all similar for 10 different things going on in remote locations is getting hard to keep track of |
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| 14:22.49 | Titan8990 | lives by tabbed browsing, tabbed email, etc but still has not moved on to tabbed terminals |
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| 14:25.48 | CodeNinja | Titan8990: I find it a bit easier to work with |
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| 14:26.03 | themill | Titan8990: tabbed terminals good.... tabs within tabs (screen within konsole) takes a little to get used to but is quite handy too. |
| 14:26.09 | CodeNinja | xchat, thunderbird, firefox, file browser and terminal are all tabbed |
| 14:26.22 | Titan8990 | ah, yes, I do use screen windows |
| 14:26.35 | CodeNinja | I get messed up with keyboard commands in screen still |
| 14:26.49 | CodeNinja | I managed to unsplit my windows, and then dupe them, uhg it was ugly |
| 14:26.57 | Titan8990 | luckily they don't seem to conflict with emacs commands |
| 14:27.25 | CodeNinja | screen is mostly based on Ctrl+A,[some command] |
| 14:27.26 | Titan8990 | CodeNinja: those layouts are not saved so detattaching and reattaching would get it back to normal |
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| 14:27.53 | CodeNinja | hm, actually when I detach and reattached, I had to resplit them |
| 14:28.20 | CodeNinja | uhg, I'm so affraid to run this script... the tests went fine... but uhg |
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| 14:29.05 | CodeNinja | had to write an rmbydate script to remove files before or after a specific date... and I get to apply it in a maildir for 1 mailbox of 100,000 emails [literal] |
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| 14:35.54 | Rezagrats | I'm getting an 'fsck died with exit status 8' does anyone know how to fix this ? |
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| 14:37.23 | wols | I'm sure it didn't just die but write something beforehand |
| 14:37.37 | Rezagrats | It's during boot. |
| 14:38.19 | et | CodeNinja: backups. |
| 14:38.34 | CodeNinja | et: thats what I'm doing right now |
| 14:38.41 | CodeNinja | like I said, I tested it on another dir |
| 14:38.45 | johnfg | wols, nope, i386. |
| 14:38.49 | CodeNinja | but I fear for a dir of 10001 emails |
| 14:38.55 | CodeNinja | er, 100001 xD |
| 14:39.06 | Vazz | hello, im running debian armel, how i can disable services on startup (update-rc.d, rcconf - command not found) |
| 14:39.10 | Vazz | ? |
| 14:39.15 | johnfg | Titan8990, I can't see any logs, because I can't get past the first startup screen? |
| 14:39.30 | Titan8990 | johnfg: boot a livecd |
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| 14:39.50 | Titan8990 | johnfg: wols mentioned this might be a known issue with amd64 squeeze installs |
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| 14:42.08 | wols | johnfg: you can. start in single user mode, start a shell as init process, etc |
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| 14:42.29 | wols | Titan8990: I dunno if it's a known issue, but there have been several people lately here with the same issue |
| 14:42.45 | wols | my money's on PAM, but as this is one of the funny blackboxes, have fun debugging it |
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| 14:43.37 | themill | wols: or one of the funky access-control-by-policy things (console-kit-daemon etc) |
| 14:44.17 | simonrvn | console-kit is a wtf-ness |
| 14:44.22 | wols | themill: one blackbox against the other. who cares |
| 14:44.37 | greedo | bzip2: Depends: libbz2-1.0 (= 1.0.5-1) but 1.0.5-3 is to be installed |
| 14:45.06 | greedo | not sure about this error |
| 14:45.06 | wols | sometimes I think the only advantage linux has over windows still is, at least the config file are in ascii |
| 14:45.12 | wols | but otherwise: same difference |
| 14:45.18 | simonrvn | text, heh |
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| 14:45.24 | themill | greedo: are you mixing lenny and squeeze there? |
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| 14:45.35 | simonrvn | and non-funky comment chars |
| 14:45.39 | greedo | themill: no |
| 14:45.48 | wols | simonrvn: text could be UTF-8, UCS2, etc. I meant ascii. at least I hope they use ascii |
| 14:45.51 | CodeNinja | is in phear mode |
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| 14:45.53 | Titan8990 | greedo: my chat logs indicate otherwise |
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| 14:46.06 | CodeNinja | [root@arctic /usr/local/psa/qmail/mailnames/domain.tld/info/Maildir/cur]# rmbydate ./ 1262329260 before |
| 14:46.07 | simonrvn | i like my utf-8 |
| 14:46.10 | themill | greedo: so what *are* you doing, given that my ESP-over-IRC isn't working that well today? |
| 14:46.12 | wols | retroactively redacts Titan8990's irc transmissions |
| 14:46.17 | wols | there. fixed that for you |
| 14:46.29 | greedo | Titan8990: that was on a different machine |
| 14:46.31 | wols | simonrvn: you are a merkin without a clue, of course you would |
| 14:46.31 | simonrvn | CodeNinja: oh no. backups? :) |
| 14:46.43 | simonrvn | wols: um, i'm not |
| 14:46.47 | CodeNinja | simonrvn: made a tarball before I ran that |
| 14:46.48 | CodeNinja | but zomg |
| 14:46.52 | Thaxll | Is APT is able to use user:pass@ip for apt-get ? ( if ofc there is a basic http auth on my webserver ) |
| 14:46.52 | CodeNinja | is panicky lol |
| 14:47.17 | simonrvn | pulls out his cluebat and smacks wols with it |
| 14:47.21 | CodeNinja | simonrvn: http://chriswalker.devnetonline.net/screencaps/rmbydate-working.png |
| 14:47.30 | themill | Thaxll: man 5 sources.list would suggest it can. |
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| 14:47.44 | CodeNinja | thats all of the files its removing |
| 14:47.51 | wols | you are. you are an inhabitant of the continent of america. and you are also naturalized and socialized by the anglo-saxon cultute of the invaders of said america, northern part. and while I know you will deny it, it's no use, you're an EX-people |
| 14:47.54 | Thaxll | <themill> Hmm thanks |
| 14:48.12 | wols | kinda like I'd claim to be an alemann tribesman. maybe my genes say so but it simply isn't true anymore |
| 14:48.24 | simonrvn | CodeNinja: wow, hehe |
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| 14:49.06 | simonrvn | wols: you don't know me. don't start insulting me. one thing though, at least you're doing it to my face. |
| 14:49.34 | CodeNinja | simonrvn: literally, there were 92000+ emails in this mailbox |
| 14:49.39 | wols | simonrvn: you perceiving it as insult, doesn't make it one. it's simply the honest, naked truth. sorry |
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| 14:50.18 | themill | Thaxll: you might like to consider just limiting by IP range on the web server rather than doing that though. |
| 14:51.05 | Thaxll | Well I know it's totally unsecure, it's just for testing! |
| 14:51.19 | Rezagrats | How do i change the /dev/ fsck.ext3 looks at during a system check ? |
| 14:51.35 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: edit your /etc/fstab |
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| 14:51.43 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: still can't get the thing to boot, huh? :) |
| 14:52.03 | greedo | themill: http://pastebin.com/VvxpVHxv |
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| 14:53.22 | themill | greedo: that sources.list is inconsistent with the output you pasted earlier. |
| 14:54.02 | greedo | themill: that's what I got |
| 14:54.32 | themill | greedo: then you must have *previously* had squeeze or sid in your sources.list. |
| 14:54.42 | Rezagrats | SerajewelKS, hopefully editing /etc/fstab will do it. |
| 14:55.16 | Rezagrats | Yay |
| 14:55.19 | Rezagrats | \:d/ |
| 14:55.37 | greedo | themill: http://pastebin.com/Gph52vMt |
| 14:55.39 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: :) |
| 14:55.44 | Rezagrats | I think i saw something about not finding /swap though. D; |
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| 14:56.12 | ErNci | hey :) |
| 14:56.22 | ErNci | I am trying to add a second IP to my debian box |
| 14:56.46 | Rezagrats | Hmmm |
| 14:56.52 | ErNci | currently there is only 1 block, starting with "iface eth0 inet static then address,netmask,network,gateway etc" |
| 14:57.04 | wols | Rezagrats: "free" will tell you if it did (find it) |
| 14:57.11 | ErNci | do I need to rename this block to eth:0, then copy/paste to eth0:1 and add new block/settings? |
| 14:57.27 | themill | greedo: so you previously had "testing" in your sources.list. If what you have showed me now really is the entirety of your sources.list(s), then can you do an "aptitude update" and pastebin the output of: aptitude search '~o' |
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| 14:57.42 | Rezagrats | How do i bump up the Hz in Debian for my CRT ? it's at 54Hz but i want it at a nice 60Hz or even 80Hz if possible. |
| 14:58.00 | wols | Rezagrats: xrandr. IF the crt can actually handle it |
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| 14:58.45 | Rezagrats | This CRT is supposed to be able to do 85Hz at 1024x768 (current res). |
| 14:59.04 | Thaxll | change your X11 conf file |
| 14:59.18 | wols | then I very very much doubt it uses 54Hz. it might use 56,60 or above, but not 54 |
| 14:59.29 | Thaxll | /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 14:59.30 | wols | Thaxll: change what? especially when the file doesn't exist? |
| 14:59.37 | wols | Thaxll: there is no such file anymore usually |
| 15:00.40 | simonrvn | ErNci: eth0, eth0:0, eth0:1, etc. or use `ip' with post-up/pre-down commands |
| 15:00.59 | Rezagrats | Wols: according to Screen Resolution (System > Preferences > Screen Resolution), my monitor is at 54Hz @ 1024x768 right now. |
| 15:01.01 | greedo | themill: http://pastebin.com/ULP6EP8e |
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| 15:01.33 | johnfg | In the squeeze that I installed, I've only got recovery mode other than the usual mode. Not single user mode. |
| 15:01.39 | Rezagrats | Maybe my card can't handle such a thing. :( |
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| 15:02.03 | themill | greedo: and the output of "apt-cache policy bzip2 libbz2-1.0"? |
| 15:02.13 | SerajewelKS | johnfg: pretty sure that's exactly what recovery mode is |
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| 15:02.23 | wols | Rezagrats: unlikely. what card is it? and what driver? |
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| 15:02.37 | humbolt | do you guys know, is there actually any speed difference between different ram lines of one certain type? As far as I know, the only thing that actually makes a difference is the CL timing, right? |
| 15:02.54 | wols | humbolt: and you think this is a debian question why? |
| 15:02.58 | johnfg | I guess I was thinking it would say single user mode, like lenny. |
| 15:03.02 | abrotman | humbolt: ##hardware |
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| 15:03.13 | humbolt | wols: cause I run debian on that machine, hehe |
| 15:03.28 | Rezagrats | Wols: low-profile/low-powered 9400GT. drivers: nvidia- settings/xconfig |
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| 15:03.52 | wols | Rezagrats: use the nvidia control panel then. easier to use than xrandr. and it can do up to 85Hz easily |
| 15:04.04 | greedo | themill: http://pastebin.com/4eq09ysw |
| 15:04.20 | Titan8990 | the nvidia-setting gui is actually quite good |
| 15:04.29 | ErNci | :) got it simonrvn ty |
| 15:05.00 | Rezagrats | Awesome |
| 15:05.07 | Rezagrats | No more eye-burn |
| 15:05.08 | wols | greedo: you have a frankendebian. either upgrade properly to squeeze or reinstall |
| 15:05.19 | themill | greedo: your pastes are once again not self-consistent. |
| 15:05.19 | johnfg | Ok, am at a shell prompt, now what? |
| 15:05.33 | Rezagrats | In nvidia-settings, i just use TwinView for dual monitors, right? |
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| 15:06.03 | greedo | themill: is squeeze stable? |
| 15:06.08 | themill | greedo: no. |
| 15:06.13 | Titan8990 | Rezagrats: that is what I am using. test both ways and see what you prefer |
| 15:06.19 | wols | themill: they are. it's just what greedo alleges is not true |
| 15:06.31 | johnfg | When I do a adduser <user>, it endeavors to add the user, then comes back with passwd: System error |
| 15:06.40 | johnfg | passwd: password unchanged |
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| 15:06.53 | g00se | I just tried both an internet phone call and recording with audacity. In both cases, i sounded like a slowed down Darth Vader - what could be going on there? |
| 15:07.00 | johnfg | Try again? [y/N] |
| 15:07.08 | Titan8990 | johnfg: if you are in single user mode you have to remount / as rw |
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| 15:07.28 | johnfg | so do chroot / |
| 15:07.54 | BlackFate | g00se: maybe the dark force is strong within you |
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| 15:07.59 | Titan8990 | johnfg: chroot does not remount |
| 15:08.07 | johnfg | How do I do that? |
| 15:08.25 | Titan8990 | johnfg: mount -o remount,rw / |
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| 15:09.24 | BlackFate | g00se: what internet phone call application you use? |
| 15:09.38 | g00se | BlackFate: Ahem.. Skype |
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| 15:09.55 | BlackFate | g00se: there an official skype recording application for skype. |
| 15:10.12 | greedo | I though debian decided to go to schedule based releases |
| 15:10.18 | cahoot | would the sampling rate matter? |
| 15:10.42 | g00se | BlackFate: Well since audacity was exactly the same, i assume it's not app-specific |
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| 15:11.12 | BlackFate | g00se: soz.. misread |
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| 15:12.23 | g00se | BlackFate: np |
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| 15:13.23 | g00se | BlackFate: np |
| 15:14.29 | Titan8990 | greedo: they were going to schedule freezes, not releases (they are already passed the scheduled freeze for squeeze) |
| 15:14.58 | janis | BlackFate, thanks mate! I fixed it! |
| 15:14.59 | janis | :) |
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| 15:15.37 | BlackFate | janis was a brave one to try it |
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| 15:15.55 | wols | good hob saving another foolish soul from running testing |
| 15:16.00 | wols | *job |
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| 15:16.51 | Titan8990 | wols: he convinced a different user to run sidux earlier... |
| 15:17.21 | BlackFate | im a sid user myself.. i you know how things work nothing goes wrong |
| 15:17.32 | BlackFate | if* |
| 15:17.51 | wols | Titan8990: oops... |
| 15:17.56 | jelly | fsvo nothing |
| 15:18.15 | abrotman | oh wait! |
| 15:18.20 | jelly | have fun with a broken perl or libc6 |
| 15:18.47 | wols | jelly: libc6 is easy. it's perl that's the bitch |
| 15:18.52 | abrotman | dpkg: flw61 is <reply><BlackFate> im a sid user myself.. i you know how things work nothing goes wrong |
| 15:18.52 | dpkg | okay, abrotman |
| 15:19.21 | jelly | greedo: debian considered (or is that present tense?) going to schedule-based _freezes_ |
| 15:19.31 | Titan8990 | abrotman: what the flw's? |
| 15:19.34 | abrotman | past tense .. abandoned last i heard |
| 15:19.35 | abrotman | !flw |
| 15:19.35 | dpkg | <r3v> RevSlowmo: oh... well if you want something fancy, I don't know... i don't backup anything :) |
| 15:19.41 | abrotman | Titan8990: Famous Last Words |
| 15:19.42 | jelly | famousse laste wordes |
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| 15:19.48 | Titan8990 | abrotman: hehe |
| 15:20.17 | abrotman | some are pretty entertaining |
| 15:20.17 | BlackFate | abrotman: at least corrent the "if" :P |
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| 15:20.30 | abrotman | BlackFate: sorry ... a quote is a quote :) |
| 15:20.42 | abrotman | revisionist history sucks! |
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| 15:25.22 | Rezagrats | TwinView isn't working too great... both monitors seems to be seen as one, making any window that is maximized, span across both monitors. :\ |
| 15:25.33 | SerajewelKS | what does the value of delay= in a postfix log signify, and what is it measured in? i can't find any docs on the log format, just how to turn it on and off. |
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| 15:25.44 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: probably ask #postfix |
| 15:26.05 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: probably not a bad idea |
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| 15:27.33 | Titan8990 | Rezagrats: that is not the results I got from twinview.. |
| 15:27.41 | courpse | Nor i. |
| 15:27.57 | Rezagrats | :( |
| 15:27.58 | courpse | But it did do this at first, im trying to remember what i changed for it to be 2 seperate monitors. |
| 15:27.59 | Titan8990 | Rezagrats: sometimes apps that have a loadscreen in the center will split between both monitors, but aside from that it works as expected... |
| 15:28.16 | abrotman | might ask #nvidia about their stuff |
| 15:28.25 | Titan8990 | Rezagrats: drag window to right monitor, maximize and it stays on that monitor |
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| 15:29.09 | courpse | Titan8990, Well thats the typical behaivour, but sometimes it doesnt do this by default. |
| 15:29.15 | courpse | It acts as 1 physcial monitor. |
| 15:29.26 | SerajewelKS | usually it depends on your xorg.conf |
| 15:29.32 | SerajewelKS | and whether you did it right :) |
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| 15:29.42 | Genk1 | hello |
| 15:29.51 | simNIX | Rezagrats, not tried yet myself but looks promising: http://dmx.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 15:30.11 | Titan8990 | I did nothing more than enable the monitor and select "twinview" from the nvidia-settings gui... |
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| 15:30.32 | simNIX | all becomes one screen but if window manager suports it like gnome it should maximize per monitor which I mis |
| 15:30.39 | courpse | Titan8990, Looked in Nvidia X Server Settings ? |
| 15:30.48 | courpse | Located in System/Preferences/? |
| 15:30.50 | Genk1 | how to setup two diffrent bridges in the same lan.. I mean in the form of : lan1<->bridge1<->bridge2<->lan2 |
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| 15:31.18 | Titan8990 | courpse: I am not the one with the problem.. I just launched `nvidia-settings` from a terminal |
| 15:31.34 | Rezagrats | Wierd, Titan8990... |
| 15:31.35 | courpse | erm. |
| 15:31.37 | courpse | Yeah. |
| 15:31.40 | Genk1 | with bridge 1 or 2 only it works for me.. when I use more than one bridge it doesn't work |
| 15:31.41 | courpse | I meant Rezagrats. |
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| 15:32.03 | Genk1 | so I guess the problem is between the connection of bridge 1 and bridge 2 |
| 15:32.05 | johnfg | Titan8990, I did the mount -o remount,rw / no problem. But I still can't change the password. |
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| 15:32.18 | Titan8990 | johnfg: bug report it |
| 15:32.22 | DeathKnight | how can i add the test repo of debianin my sources.lst? |
| 15:32.41 | Titan8990 | !iyhta DeathKnight |
| 15:33.18 | Titan8990 | !iyhtays DeathKnight |
| 15:33.18 | dpkg | DeathKnight: If You Have To Ask, You Shouldn't. |
| 15:34.05 | DeathKnight | wht is that?? |
| 15:34.13 | wols | DeathKnight: it's the truth |
| 15:34.36 | CodeNinja | AWWYEAH |
| 15:34.37 | DeathKnight | i dont get it.. |
| 15:34.38 | CodeNinja | donces |
| 15:34.44 | CodeNinja | that script was awesomesauce |
| 15:34.52 | CodeNinja | with baconcake, not even as a side... just bacon cake |
| 15:35.03 | DeathKnight | someone said to me their are other repos than the maini repo of debian |
| 15:35.34 | wols | DeathKnight: /msg dpkg non-free /msg dpkg volatile /msg dpkg dmm |
| 15:36.07 | jhutchins_lt | DeathKnight: You should only add testing repos if you already understand how to manage a Debian system and fix problems. If you don't know about the other repos yet, you're not ready. |
| 15:36.07 | simNIX | there are - but to simply put; there for more techy savy poele since it can break your sytem |
| 15:36.23 | jhutchins_lt | DeathKnight: Testing is just that - it's to test the next release and find the problems. |
| 15:36.30 | jhutchins_lt | DeathKnight: You WILL find problems. |
| 15:36.38 | DeathKnight | but the mplayer of the main repo is very old |
| 15:36.50 | Titan8990 | ,versions mplayer |
| 15:36.51 | judd | mplayer -- etch: 1.0~rc1-12etch5; etch-security: 1.0~rc1-12etch7; lenny: 1.0~rc2-17+lenny3; squeeze: 1.0~rc3+svn20090405-1+b1; sid: 1.0~rc3+svn20090405-1+b2; etch-multimedia: 1:1.0-rc1svn20070225-0.3etch1; lenny-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20080706-0.1lenny1; squeeze-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20100313-0.0; sid-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20100407-0.0 |
| 15:36.55 | jhutchins_lt | DeathKnight: It works just fine. |
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| 15:37.00 | wols | DeathKnight: just ask Johnfg here who can't log in to his testing system, freshly installed for example. not even as root |
| 15:37.08 | simNIX | doesnt it work correct for you Titan8990 ? |
| 15:37.10 | DeathKnight | what am i to see in that? |
| 15:37.12 | ReeF | ,versions squid |
| 15:37.13 | judd | squid -- etch: 2.6.5-6etch4; etch-security: 2.6.5-6etch5; etch-backports: 2.7.STABLE3-4.1~bpo40+1; lenny: 2.7.STABLE3-4.1; lenny-security: 2.7.STABLE3-4.1lenny1; lenny-backports: 2.7.STABLE7-1~bpo50+1; squeeze: 2.7.STABLE8-1; sid: 2.7.STABLE9-2 |
| 15:37.19 | Titan8990 | DeathKnight: see wols' suggestion of /msg dpkg dmm |
| 15:37.24 | wols | DeathKnight: what's the problem with being very old exactly? |
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| 15:37.29 | DeathKnight | i could not play .flv |
| 15:37.35 | jhutchins_lt | simNIX: Titan8990 is hardly a novice. |
| 15:37.36 | simNIX | try vlc |
| 15:37.44 | wols | DeathKnight: use mplayer from dmm then |
| 15:37.50 | simNIX | misponiter my side |
| 15:37.57 | wols | jhutchins_lt: he's a baby. a small one |
| 15:38.00 | DeathKnight | yeah i will do that |
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| 15:44.24 | bioe007 | how do you control what owner:group a user's files are created as? |
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| 15:45.27 | bioe007 | i have a user somehow was added st all their files are made with ownership, user:user |
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| 15:46.42 | DeathKnight | so. what is debian multimedia keyring |
| 15:47.30 | Titan8990 | DeathKnight: it is what allows the dmm repo to be "trusted", otherwise you will get a warning each time you try install a package from that repo |
| 15:47.39 | fefo | http://www.google.sk/search?hl=sk&source=hp&q=what+is+debian+multimedia+keyring&btnG=H%C4%BEada%C5%A5+v+Google&meta= |
| 15:47.49 | DeathKnight | oh |
| 15:47.59 | DeathKnight | so actullay its not that much needed |
| 15:48.07 | BlackFate | bioe007: every file created by a specific user has as owner this user... you can change this with the chown command |
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| 15:48.47 | bioe007 | BlackFate: i understand the basic idea of unix permissions, but i don't get why this one user has its own group |
| 15:49.22 | Titan8990 | babilen: you missed our dealings with that guy earlier. What you just said is going to be way over his head |
| 15:49.27 | bioe007 | so even things that are 664 can still only be read by that user |
| 15:49.37 | macrobat | in debian, users are primary members of their own group, right? |
| 15:49.37 | BlackFate | bioe007: every new user by default has a group with the same name |
| 15:50.13 | bioe007 | BlackFate: k, this is a debianism thats new to me, so do peoplp just add those groups to a 'users' group then? |
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| 15:50.32 | bioe007 | err, other way around i mean |
| 15:50.55 | DeathKnight | and.. for installing mplayer from dmm do i need to stop another main repo? |
| 15:51.00 | BlackFate | bioe007: there is no "users" group... you can create one though |
| 15:51.16 | BlackFate | you just append it to any new login |
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| 15:51.38 | bioe007 | BlackFate: yeah i know how to make groups and what not |
| 15:51.54 | bioe007 | what im wondering is there some way to control file creation? these are all windows users |
| 15:51.58 | BlackFate | bioe007: actually every user with he own group gives you more flexibility among users |
| 15:52.03 | Titan8990 | DeathKnight: aptitude upgrade should do it |
| 15:52.12 | mbruins | hello, i just installed debian lenny on a work notebook. i really love it! but i have question: is it possible to show in deban (lenny) what kinda of harddisk (size/brand/type) en what kind of memory (size/brand/type) i have whitout opening the notebook |
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| 15:52.22 | bioe007 | so they are connecting with samba and i want them to be sharing files in a certain area |
| 15:52.24 | DeathKnight | Titan8990: so by dong that i dont need to comment the main repo line? |
| 15:52.39 | Titan8990 | mbruins: dmidecode and lshw might provide such info |
| 15:53.06 | Titan8990 | DeathKnight: no, dmm will take priority |
| 15:53.06 | BlackFate | bioe007: you could change the default umask for the "othes" |
| 15:53.26 | Titan8990 | BlackFate: umask doesn't effect ownership, does it? |
| 15:53.34 | bioe007 | BlackFate: not realy the same though |
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| 15:53.47 | mbruins | Titan8990: thanks ill try lshw, i report |
| 15:53.53 | DeathKnight | Titan8990: ok... but it needs 98 mb of archives why is it? |
| 15:53.56 | BlackFate | no it doesnt.. |
| 15:54.16 | Titan8990 | DeathKnight: probably large codecs |
| 15:54.17 | bioe007 | BlackFate: i do want files created as e.g. <user>:<labgroup> and <user2>:<executivegroup> |
| 15:54.38 | BlackFate | bioe007: mayber make a new file partition and remount it with the selected user and group |
| 15:54.46 | DeathKnight | oh.. it is taking pidgin.. network-manager, etc etc.. and why is that? |
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| 15:54.57 | BlackFate | bioe007: that would also work |
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| 15:55.08 | Titan8990 | ,versions pidgin |
| 15:55.09 | judd | pidgin -- etch-backports: 2.4.3-4lenny5~bpo40+1; lenny: 2.4.3-4lenny5; lenny-security: 2.4.3-4lenny6; squeeze: 2.6.5-2; lenny-backports: 2.6.6-1~bpo50+1; sid: 2.6.6-2 |
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| 15:55.18 | Titan8990 | DeathKnight: pastebin the output |
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| 15:55.24 | mbruins | Titan8990: thanks alot lshw anwsered why questions |
| 15:55.35 | Titan8990 | mbruins: np |
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| 15:57.15 | bioe007 | in think there might be some use in samba's 'force group' parameter? |
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| 16:00.00 | DeathKnight | Titan8990: http://pastebin.com/Y6JUgUwf |
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| 16:00.56 | Titan8990 | DeathKnight: looks like dmm wasn't the only thing you added to your sources.list. pastebin it |
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| 16:01.34 | Titan8990 | DeathKnight: and my intention was for you to pastebin prior to accepting the changes |
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| 16:01.35 | DeathKnight | Titan8990: http://pastebin.com/Y6JUgUwf |
| 16:01.56 | Titan8990 | DeathKnight: no, pasteing /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:01.57 | abrotman | kind of like a sources.list |
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| 16:03.13 | niklaswe | does someone has get xen-tools to working in squeeze ? |
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| 16:04.13 | fanani | Hi all |
| 16:04.18 | fanani | nice to meet u |
| 16:04.19 | Titan8990 | !why is xen-tools not in testing |
| 16:04.19 | dpkg | xen-tools is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=xen-tools |
| 16:04.34 | fanani | i am a new user of debian |
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| 16:05.55 | ReeF | fanani nice |
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| 16:06.32 | fanani | do u know about the next release of debian 6 |
| 16:07.01 | niklaswe | Titan8990: hmm so I must use lenny if i will use xen-tools right? |
| 16:07.05 | aguitel_ | anytime when i connect to wireless keyring askme to password, is anyway to disable this? |
| 16:07.28 | Titan8990 | niklaswe: yes |
| 16:07.41 | abrotman | fanani: what about it? there is no schedule |
| 16:07.52 | DeathKnight | Titan8990: oh.. i remeber.. i had added something for installing mplayer.. |
| 16:08.12 | DeathKnight | Titan8990: can i stop the upgrade process now? |
| 16:08.13 | Titan8990 | DeathKnight: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:08.16 | DeathKnight | and do it later after removing the line form sources.list? |
| 16:08.22 | fanani | ok thnk |
| 16:08.28 | Titan8990 | DeathKnight: well, by the looks of it, you are probably running testing now |
| 16:08.41 | Titan8990 | DeathKnight: let me see that file |
| 16:09.09 | niklaswe | Titan8990: hmm then i for look after something else.. the fw i using use testing.. :/ |
| 16:09.11 | abrotman | !tell fanani about wwsr |
| 16:09.31 | abrotman | wonders if it might be time to put "squeeze (6.0) /msg dpkg wwsr" in the topic ... |
| 16:09.32 | Titan8990 | niklaswe: not a good choice for anything you expect to work |
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| 16:10.44 | bioe007 | hmm.. well i this in /etc/group: user1:x:1006:group1,group2 <- shouldn't that give members of 'group1' and 'group2' access to group 'user1' ? |
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| 16:11.41 | wols | bioe007: your usage of "group" and "user" is totally messed up |
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| 16:12.02 | bioe007 | wols: have seen my above problem? |
| 16:12.30 | wols | your lack of knowledge of unix permissions? briefly |
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| 16:12.59 | wols | the entries for group is "group:x:gid:user1,user2,...." |
| 16:13.17 | bioe007 | iirc you can also combine groups in /etc/group |
| 16:13.39 | wols | meaning a plugdev:x:46:bioe007 means "user bioe007 is a member of group plugdev" |
| 16:13.46 | aguitel_ | anytime when i connect to wireless keyring askme to password, is anyway to disable this? |
| 16:14.01 | DeathKnight | Titan8990: http://pastebin.com/jyXbkHuW |
| 16:14.04 | bioe007 | indeed, and debian has created a group called 'user1' for a newly added group |
| 16:14.14 | bioe007 | err, *newly added user |
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| 16:14.51 | Titan8990 | DeathKnight: you didn't even add the dmm repo? |
| 16:14.59 | bioe007 | all this user's files are created say 664 with user1:user1 |
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| 16:15.11 | Titan8990 | DeathKnight: sorry, misread. pastebin: apt-cache policy libc6 apt |
| 16:15.36 | DeathKnight | just a min |
| 16:15.54 | wols | bioe007: read up on "umask" |
| 16:16.41 | DeathKnight | Titan8990: wait.. i need to type all.. |
| 16:16.45 | Titan8990 | bioe007: umask is a bash builtin so it will be in the bash manpage, not its own |
| 16:16.53 | Titan8990 | DeathKnight: what? |
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| 16:17.12 | wols | Titan8990: samba for example has it's own "umask" directive, right? |
| 16:17.13 | bioe007 | wols: if you mean to say modify umask u=rwx,g=rw,o=rw then thats not a good solution |
| 16:17.17 | DeathKnight | Titan8990: nvm |
| 16:17.41 | Titan8990 | wols: oh, no idea there, we have some samba servers here but I mostly steer clear |
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| 16:17.56 | wols | bioe007: how are said files created? |
| 16:18.03 | bioe007 | wols: it does, and you can do stuff like 'force group' in samba |
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| 16:18.20 | wols | and with what owner(permissions do you want them to be created? |
| 16:18.21 | bioe007 | wols: from a windows 7 client -> debian + samba server |
| 16:18.38 | bioe007 | wols: i'd like <user1>:<group1> |
| 16:18.43 | wols | so you might need to fix your samba config to reflect your wishes? |
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| 16:18.52 | bioe007 | thats part of my trouble |
| 16:19.09 | bioe007 | the samba server was set up (by someone else) so there is a big 'shared' folder |
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| 16:19.42 | rzeka | What were steps to change domain of machine (eg from "rzeka.kick-ass to rzeka.net)? |
| 16:19.56 | bioe007 | i think to use samba to force groups i'd have to split this shared folder up |
| 16:19.57 | Titan8990 | rzeka: edit /etc/mailname and /etc/hosts |
| 16:20.03 | rzeka | only? ; ) |
| 16:20.04 | rzeka | Thanks |
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| 16:20.07 | sparr | In some Gnome/GTK(?) program/filename selection/input dialogs, such as Run Application or the File>Open dialog in most apps, sometimes typing "/tm" yields "/tmp" with the p highlighted (the desired normal behavior) and sometimes "/t" yields "/tmp/" with no highlight and the next "m" makes it "/tmp/mfilename" with no highlighting. What controls that, and how do I fix/disable that behavior? |
| 16:20.11 | wols | rzeka: hostname or DNS resolveable domain name? |
| 16:20.22 | DeathKnight_ | Titan8990, http://pastebin.com/RUY4NKhV |
| 16:20.27 | rzeka | I haven't got revDNS |
| 16:20.37 | bioe007 | maybe i'll just add all my other users to this 'user1' group for now and let our |
| 16:20.47 | bioe007 | *expert handle this tomorrow |
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| 16:21.21 | rzeka | How about /etc/hostname ? |
| 16:22.20 | DeathKnight_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.22 | Titan8990 | DeathKnight_: your box just had not been upgraded since installation. That output was fine |
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| 16:24.56 | Titan8990 | DeathKnight_: continue with the upgrade |
| 16:25.16 | DeathKnight | Titan8990: oh.. ok.. so. after the upgrade is finished... i can do apt-get install mplayer and it will install mplayer form the multimedia repo that i just added..which will be later version than the one in main repo. |
| 16:25.31 | DeathKnight | am i right? |
| 16:25.38 | Titan8990 | DeathKnight: yes, but you should use aptitude |
| 16:25.45 | Titan8990 | !tell DeathKnight about why aptitude |
| 16:25.46 | DeathKnight | oh.. |
| 16:26.12 | DeathKnight | always |
| 16:26.35 | DeathKnight | i usually use aptitude.. because i dont like apt-get remove.. it sounds funny to me.. |
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| 16:28.41 | ScottO_ | any ideas why df is showing 0 for available space when i know there is 20 gigs free? |
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| 16:29.02 | ScottO_ | i tried df --sync but its still displaying 0 for available |
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| 16:30.31 | karlpinc | ScottO_: Probably because of reserved blocks in the fs. See e.g. man mke2fs the -m option. |
| 16:30.52 | ScottO_ | karlpinc: ive never had this problem on other servers |
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| 16:31.06 | ScottO_ | karlpinc: its possible it has been fixed already if its a bug |
| 16:31.11 | karlpinc | ScottO_: How do you "know" there's 20G free? |
| 16:31.35 | ScottO_ | karlpinc: because size is 660 and used is 640 |
| 16:31.38 | ScottO_ | :D |
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| 16:31.57 | ScottO_ | i did just delete a few files from a samba share |
| 16:32.21 | ScottO_ | not sure if thats related |
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| 16:33.12 | karlpinc | ScottO_: I still say it's the reserved block %. |
| 16:33.23 | ScottO_ | ok ill look into your suggestion then |
| 16:33.26 | ScottO_ | thanks |
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| 16:33.47 | bioe007 | did you delete with some standards compliant filemanager, which only stuffed things into a trash bin? |
| 16:34.22 | ScottO_ | bioe007: i accessed the server's files from a windows desktop via samba share |
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| 16:34.49 | ScottO_ | i wouldnt think windows would put that in the recycle bin since its a remote filesystem |
| 16:35.09 | bioe007 | ScottO_: yeah tbh im not sure how windows/samba handles that operation |
| 16:35.13 | ScottO_ | and i wuoldnt think that it would update the used value if it had |
| 16:35.26 | bioe007 | gp |
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| 16:36.56 | aguitel | anytime when i connect to wireless the keyring ask me to enter password, is anyway to disable this ? |
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| 16:37.52 | PinkFreud | aguitel: Ubuntu? |
| 16:38.12 | aguitel | PinkFreud, debian squeeze |
| 16:38.28 | aguitel | PinkFreud, in my notebook |
| 16:38.34 | cahoot | http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1110931.htm aguitel l |
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| 16:39.05 | ReeF | \quit |
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| 16:40.57 | aguitel | cahoot, i going there thanks |
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| 16:42.26 | Liquid-Silence | hey all I seem to have a issue, I plugged in a usb headset and played some music but it still comes out of my laptops speakers |
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| 16:43.06 | Liquid-Silence | is there a way to pipe it through the headset? |
| 16:43.07 | levifig | so, if I wanna run MySQL 5.5 on my server, where could I get an apt source for it? :) |
| 16:43.21 | ErNci | hey, i have added lines in /etc/network/interface for an interface, which I can bring up fine with ifup eth0:0 |
| 16:43.26 | ErNci | how can I make it automatically "bring up" on boot? |
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| 16:44.28 | rzeka | I can send e-mails via my sendmail, but I have no idea how can I receive them... When mail is sent, "from" is "user@rzeka.net" (www-data@rzeka.net etc...). But When I send email to www-data@rzeka.net or rzeka@rzeka.net it doean't work :( |
| 16:45.24 | ScottO_ | karlpinc: it has to be a problem with the way samba handles a delete, i just rsynced the changes in the first drive over to an identical drive, and df shows the correct avail space |
| 16:45.39 | ScottO_ | so rysnc properly updated something that samba did not |
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| 16:46.13 | ScottO_ | so the first drive still says 0 avail and the second drvie shows 14G free |
| 16:46.26 | ErNci | anybody? :( |
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| 16:46.39 | [SkG] | cd #c |
| 16:46.41 | [SkG] | ups |
| 16:46.42 | ScottO_ | should i try talking to someone from the samba project? |
| 16:47.10 | Liquid-Silence | ScottO_: /join #samba? |
| 16:47.57 | ScottO_ | Liquid-Silence: duh... |
| 16:48.10 | Liquid-Silence | ok was just trying to help |
| 16:48.11 | Liquid-Silence | :) |
| 16:48.11 | ScottO_ | Liquid-Silence: im aware of how to join a channel thank you |
| 16:48.26 | rzeka | I can send e-mails via my sendmail, but I have no idea how can I receive them... When mail is sent, "from" is "user@rzeka.net" (www-data@rzeka.net etc...). But When I send email to www-data@rzeka.net or rzeka@rzeka.net it doean't work. Any solutions? Sendmail has default config except that I set domain to rzeka.net |
| 16:48.37 | Liquid-Silence | ScottO_: cry me a river for being helpfull |
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| 16:49.14 | ScottO_ | Liquid-Silence: that was a waste of time considering that i didnt not even imply that i had issues with using irc |
| 16:49.16 | wols | rzeka: are you totally sure you run sendmail? and if you do: why the hell do you? |
| 16:49.39 | rzeka | wols, because I had problems to configure exim4 and postfix. I am just too stupid for mail servers :) |
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| 16:49.58 | wols | and cause you are too stupid you use sendmail? that is the stupidest thing you did yetz |
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| 16:50.33 | Liquid-Silence | ScottO_: why make a issue out of nothing?> |
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| 16:50.43 | shylent | whats so bad about sendmail, I think its sexy |
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| 16:50.58 | shylent | I can understand the stuff in sendmail.cf, does that make me special? :P |
| 16:50.59 | cahoot | shylent: really? |
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| 16:51.22 | shylent | I am kidding of course, I still quite like sendmail, though |
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| 16:51.47 | shylent | wouldn't advise anyone to use it, by the way! the thing likes to suck your brains out through a straw |
| 16:52.09 | rzeka | Anyway I still don't know why I can send e-mail but can't get them :) |
| 16:52.26 | shylent | obviously, you've misconfigured your sendmail them |
| 16:52.27 | shylent | then* |
| 16:52.47 | shylent | as you might know, there is no *right* configuration for sendmail, only various degrees of misconfiguration |
| 16:52.54 | wols | telnet to your port 25 and check what it says when you try to send mail to it |
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| 16:52.57 | wols | also check your mail logs |
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| 16:53.46 | ErNci | anybody know why an interface, with auto, in /etc/network/interfaces isnt being |
| 16:53.49 | ErNci | up on reboot? |
| 16:54.28 | rzeka | " rzeka.net ESMTP not accepting messages" |
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| 16:55.47 | wols | ErNci: ifup <interface>. any errors? |
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| 16:56.17 | ErNci | nope, it comes up fine if I ifup it after boot ;( |
| 16:56.20 | ErNci | it's a virtual interface. |
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| 16:57.13 | ErNci | wols: http://pastebin.com/5dC5Lb0K I think is right |
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| 16:58.42 | JyZyXEL | if i dd a 500GB hard disk to a 1TB one should it work? |
| 16:58.55 | ErNci | anyone know what logs I should be looking at at least? |
| 16:58.56 | JyZyXEL | the 1TB copy should it be as good working as the 500GB |
| 16:59.00 | ScottO_ | Liquid-Silence: because you think you are helping, but you aren't. Just wanted to make sure you knew your efforts were wasted. |
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| 16:59.29 | unixp | how is the best way in lenny xfce to install .deb files, sry im new |
| 16:59.35 | cahoot | JyZyXEL: won't you rid yourself of 500Gb? |
| 16:59.50 | ScottO_ | Liquid-Silence: if i had mentioned that i didnt know how to join a channel, then they would have been helpful. |
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| 17:00.41 | JyZyXEL | what+ |
| 17:00.44 | elnur | can someone tell me what 2>&1 means? |
| 17:00.50 | JyZyXEL | should it work or not? |
| 17:01.11 | shylent | elnur: it redirects stderr into stdout |
| 17:01.34 | cahoot | JyZyXEL: i e if you dd the 500 disk to the 1TB disk - the latter will effectively be a 500GB disk |
| 17:01.40 | aguitel_ | unixp, type in terminal root:aptitude install xfce4 xfce4-goodies |
| 17:01.47 | SerajewelKS | cahoot: not if he later resizes the volume |
| 17:01.55 | cahoot | ok |
| 17:02.06 | JyZyXEL | is it gonna work? |
| 17:02.06 | elnur | shylent, so, to get rid off of all messages, i should do this: command >/dev/null 2>&1 ? |
| 17:02.06 | SerajewelKS | JyZyXEL: it should work, yes |
| 17:02.10 | Liquid-Silence | ScottO_: and your still going on about it? |
| 17:02.14 | JyZyXEL | well why do i see a broken partition after doing it? |
| 17:02.15 | shylent | elnur: more or less, yes |
| 17:02.20 | JyZyXEL | a partition that refuses to mount |
| 17:02.23 | SerajewelKS | elnur: or command >& /dev/null (which means the same thing) |
| 17:02.26 | elnur | shylent, ok. thank you |
| 17:02.31 | JyZyXEL | how is it possible after a block level copy |
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| 17:02.41 | JyZyXEL | a succesfull block level copy with out a single error |
| 17:02.46 | elnur | SerajewelKS, like command >& /dev/null ? |
| 17:02.56 | SerajewelKS | JyZyXEL: "refuses to mount" is not an error message we can help you diagnose |
| 17:03.35 | JyZyXEL | mount -t ntfs-3g -o uid=1000,gid=1000,locale=en_US.UTF-8 /dev/sda2 /media/junk |
| 17:03.36 | JyZyXEL | NTFS signature is missing. |
| 17:03.39 | SerajewelKS | JyZyXEL: note that after imaging a partition table onto another disk, the kernel might not be aware of the change |
| 17:03.43 | mo__ | Hello. Im doing an upgrade from etch to lenny on a system. I've replaced 'etch' with 'lenny' in my sources.list and issued an apt-get update. |
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| 17:03.48 | JyZyXEL | oh |
| 17:03.48 | SerajewelKS | JyZyXEL: did /dev/sda2 exist before you tried to image? |
| 17:03.54 | mo__ | now im doing "apt-get install apt dpkg aptitude" |
| 17:03.58 | mo__ | and I get this question: |
| 17:03.59 | JyZyXEL | umm i think so |
| 17:04.00 | JyZyXEL | yea |
| 17:04.04 | mo__ | WARNING: The following essential packages will be removed. |
| 17:04.04 | mo__ | This should NOT be done unless you know exactly what you are doing! util-linux tzdata (due to util-linux) |
| 17:04.06 | JyZyXEL | i didn't care what was on it BEFORE |
| 17:04.08 | SerajewelKS | JyZyXEL: yeah, so it's looking at a completely different section of the disk |
| 17:04.13 | JyZyXEL | oh |
| 17:04.16 | JyZyXEL | so i need to refresh? |
| 17:04.21 | markl_ | i am working on a src package, and the rules file doesn't explicitly do anything with ./configure - what is the easiest way to just add one ./configure option? |
| 17:04.22 | mo__ | Why does it want to remove these packages, and should I accept it to remove those? |
| 17:04.26 | SerajewelKS | JyZyXEL: right. if it's a removable drive you can just replug it |
| 17:04.31 | ScottO_ | Liquid-Silence: im attempting to help you be more helpful by suggesting that you actually read what peopel say before blindly offering useless help. |
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| 17:05.34 | JyZyXEL | kernel has no refresh for partitions? |
| 17:05.44 | simonrvn | nope |
| 17:05.45 | SerajewelKS | JyZyXEL: it does, but you have to actually tell it that you changed them |
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| 17:05.48 | JyZyXEL | well thats interesting |
| 17:05.57 | SerajewelKS | JyZyXEL: fdisk /dev/sda |
| 17:05.58 | mo__ | anyone ? |
| 17:05.59 | simonrvn | depends |
| 17:06.03 | SerajewelKS | JyZyXEL: then type "w" and enter |
| 17:06.07 | JyZyXEL | write? |
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| 17:06.14 | JyZyXEL | are you sure thats safe? |
| 17:06.17 | SerajewelKS | JyZyXEL: yes. fdisk will read the table and then write it back. |
| 17:06.21 | SerajewelKS | JyZyXEL: it's a no-op |
| 17:06.30 | JyZyXEL | if you say so :P |
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| 17:06.36 | SerajewelKS | JyZyXEL: but afterwords it will execute the BLKRRPART ioctl on /dev/sda |
| 17:06.46 | JyZyXEL | oh looks like it detected the situation |
| 17:06.47 | SerajewelKS | JyZyXEL: which tells the kernel "hey the partition table might have changed" |
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| 17:06.49 | JyZyXEL | and called ioctl() |
| 17:06.54 | puty | puty |
| 17:07.00 | SerajewelKS | JyZyXEL: no, it does that whenever you use "w" |
| 17:07.12 | SerajewelKS | JyZyXEL: (i just tested it myself) |
| 17:07.25 | puty | how to install mdk2 wireless tool? thanks |
| 17:07.50 | unixp | i want to install guitar pro 6. i got a .deb file. but if i type dpkg -i i get: http://paste.debian.net/71089/ |
| 17:08.05 | unixp | what to do? |
| 17:08.11 | SerajewelKS | unixp: aptitude -f install |
| 17:08.50 | simonrvn | yeh but it doesn't "take" - like if you change around size and such, it won't always see them. |
| 17:09.06 | SerajewelKS | simonrvn: on any modern linux kernel it should see all changes |
| 17:09.16 | SerajewelKS | simonrvn: as long as you don't have any of the volumes mounted, that is |
| 17:09.49 | ErNci | :( |
| 17:10.07 | JyZyXEL | now it work! |
| 17:10.16 | SerajewelKS | simonrvn: that ioctl makes the kernel forget about the last partition table, and reread the one on the disk. so the sdXY devices get removed and then re-added with the new mappings. |
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| 17:10.23 | JyZyXEL | damn thats one nasty pitfall |
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| 17:10.47 | SerajewelKS | JyZyXEL: yeah, and it's completely unobvious too |
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| 17:11.04 | unixp | SerajewelKS, mh now it says http://paste.debian.net/71090/ |
| 17:11.14 | SerajewelKS | JyZyXEL: that's why usually you see people imaging partitions instead of whole disks |
| 17:11.40 | JyZyXEL | i found it easier to do the whole disk |
| 17:11.41 | SerajewelKS | unixp: i didn't say to specify the .deb after the command. just "aptitude -f install" |
| 17:11.55 | SerajewelKS | unixp: that tells aptitude to try to resolve any dependency issues caused by a failed dpkg install |
| 17:12.02 | simonrvn | SerajewelKS: yes that's the key, not mounted |
| 17:12.11 | SerajewelKS | JyZyXEL: if your goal is to copy a whole disk, yeah |
| 17:12.36 | unixp | SerajewelKS, ok ive done, it says 0 installed removed or upgraded, all looks good |
| 17:12.37 | d1b | puty: i think you want mdk3 ;P |
| 17:13.01 | SerajewelKS | unixp: what is the output of dpkg -l guitarpro6 |
| 17:13.37 | unixp | SerajewelKS, No packages found matching GuitarPro6Demo-rev7894.deb. |
| 17:13.57 | SerajewelKS | unixp: did you do what i told you to do, or did you do "dpkg -l GuitarPro6Demo-rev7894.deb"? |
| 17:14.03 | puty | d1d is fully compatible with debian stable ? |
| 17:14.21 | unixp | SerajewelKS, did "dpkg -l GuitarPro6Demo-rev7894.deb" |
| 17:14.33 | abrotman | puty: d1d ? |
| 17:14.35 | SerajewelKS | unixp: yeah, don't assume shit. if i wanted you to run that i would have told you to run that. |
| 17:14.48 | unixp | ok sry now it tells: |
| 17:15.01 | SerajewelKS | unixp: i just need to see the last line |
| 17:15.04 | puty | d1b sorry |
| 17:15.12 | unixp | pn guitarpro6 <none> (no description available) |
| 17:15.27 | SerajewelKS | unixp: hmm, did you try to remove it after you tried to install it? |
| 17:15.27 | puty | i ask to d1b |
| 17:15.42 | SerajewelKS | unixp: or did "aptitude -f install" actually remove it? |
| 17:15.42 | d1b | puty: you asked about mdk2 before |
| 17:15.54 | unixp | SerajewelKS, yeah at first |
| 17:16.07 | SerajewelKS | unixp: ok. install it again, then run "aptitude -f install" and see what it suggests. |
| 17:16.11 | unixp | k |
| 17:16.28 | puty | yes becource i seen over net that is not fully compatible with debian stable |
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| 17:16.51 | markl_ | argh, how do I add something to CFLAGS in debian/rules? |
| 17:17.07 | puty | i need audit wireless with hide ap |
| 17:17.11 | markl_ | the ./configure script ends up ignoring it when it's in the environment or rules |
| 17:17.54 | unixp | SerajewelKS, it says http://paste.debian.net/71094/ |
| 17:18.24 | puty | i don't know which to use |
| 17:18.25 | markl_ | if anyone is bored, do you mind doing an "apt-get source tora" and taking a quick look? |
| 17:18.39 | puty | mdk2 or mdk3 |
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| 17:19.20 | hans1 | hi |
| 17:20.09 | SerajewelKS | unixp: yeah, that's aptitude telling you that the package's dependencies are not available in debian |
| 17:20.25 | unixp | SerajewelKS, mmh any solution? |
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| 17:20.32 | SerajewelKS | unixp: or at least not with your current release, or your current sources |
| 17:20.43 | SerajewelKS | unixp: build it from source is probably the easiest way |
| 17:21.15 | unixp | SerajewelKS, u mean add the source in source.lst and install it over it? |
| 17:21.22 | linuxman410 | can someone tell me release date on debian 6 |
| 17:21.52 | Titan8990 | !wwsr |
| 17:21.52 | dpkg | Squeeze will release <WIR>, <SIYH>. No release schedule is done yet. Ask me about <squeeze bet>. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/02/msg00002.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/04/msg00001.html |
| 17:21.56 | SerajewelKS | unixp: no i mean download the source code for guitar pro and compile it |
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| 17:24.36 | linuxman410 | is there a beta download for debian 6 and where can i get it |
| 17:25.26 | Titan8990 | !testing |
| 17:25.27 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <squeeze>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <lenny->squeeze> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging to use testing and should be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
| 17:26.09 | Titan8990 | linuxman410: if you are not familar with the concepts in <>, you should not try testing |
| 17:26.20 | babilen | linuxman410: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ â but read what dpkg just said |
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| 17:26.45 | ErNci | alright, anyone a iptables pro? :( |
| 17:26.54 | Titan8990 | ErNci: #netfilter |
| 17:26.56 | babilen | ErNci: #netfilter ;) |
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| 17:26.59 | ErNci | ty :) |
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| 17:27.13 | shylent | iptables pro :P |
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| 17:27.32 | shylent | anyone can be an iptables pro, just read 'man iptables' |
| 17:28.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | could a stack-size of 8192 be the reason iceweasel segfaults a shortish time after a starting? |
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| 17:28.35 | Titan8990 | CutMeOwnThroat: what version is segfaulting on you? |
| 17:29.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, nice - I increased the limit and now it's segfaulting faster |
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| 17:29.16 | babilen | hehe |
| 17:29.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | lenny - 3.0.6-3 according to dpkg... |
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| 17:30.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, that saves time, I guess |
| 17:30.12 | Titan8990 | CutMeOwnThroat: work for me(tm) |
| 17:30.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course |
| 17:30.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | it worked for me 3 weeks ago as well |
| 17:30.54 | jhutchins_lt | CutMeOwnThroat: I didn't have segfaults, but I had some memory leak issues and some hard-to-render pages so I went to the backport, which has been stable and functional. |
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| 17:31.55 | Titan8990 | CutMeOwnThroat: looks like #574449 |
| 17:32.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | I guess it's my settings ~/.mozilla/ - part of which are the restore-data to restore the last session |
| 17:32.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | now if my browser stays open long enough, I'll look at that bug |
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| 17:33.08 | Titan8990 | CutMeOwnThroat: perfect time to install w3m-el |
| 17:33.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | right now it's frozen instead of segfaulted - not sure if I should call this an improvement |
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| 17:35.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | this morning I even had to press the reset-button because the machine didn't respond, even to ping (according to /var/log/messages it was running fine and writing MARKs into the log) there's only one rational explanation for all this: Gremlins |
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| 17:37.28 | fanani | Hi all , do know how install debian lenny with live cd |
| 17:37.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | Titan8990, that bug's not all-too-helpful |
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| 17:38.02 | fanani | i'm after download debian live cd , but after i try , not icon to install |
| 17:38.07 | fanani | do u help me |
| 17:38.20 | fanani | ? |
| 17:38.27 | babilen | fanani: The live cd is not used for installations. |
| 17:38.29 | fanani | before theank :D |
| 17:38.30 | Titan8990 | CutMeOwnThroat: I know, but shows that its a known issue. You might want to pick up on it, since it looks like the orginal submitter has not followed through with the maintainers request |
| 17:38.35 | babilen | !tell fanani about netinst |
| 17:38.44 | fanani | owh |
| 17:38.59 | fanani | and then , what me doing ? |
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| 17:39.12 | Titan8990 | !tell fanani about ig |
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| 17:39.15 | babilen | fanani: You might also want to read the installation guide - "/msg dpkg ig" to get the URL |
| 17:39.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | Titan8990, well, I was going to do what they suggested anyway - go to a fresh profile (well, or at least stop using the restore function) |
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| 17:40.14 | fanani | Am i must download debian except live cd |
| 17:40.29 | Titan8990 | fanani: the livecd is _not_ an installer |
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| 17:40.35 | fanani | ok |
| 17:40.51 | fanani | thankj, |
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| 17:41.06 | fanani | before i'm sory because I'm a new user of debian |
| 17:41.07 | fanani | :D |
| 17:41.21 | Titan8990 | thats why we are here |
| 17:41.23 | babilen | fanani: No problem - Just read the installation guide and come here if you have questions :) |
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| 17:42.15 | Liquid-Silence | howdy Titan8990 :) |
| 17:42.53 | Titan8990 | Liquid-Silence: afternoon |
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| 17:43.19 | Liquid-Silence | Titan8990: evening here :) but how are you doing? |
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| 17:44.21 | Titan8990 | Liquid-Silence: you should join #debian-offtopic for this kind of chat |
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| 17:46.28 | janis | Hi guys!! After an update on my system, konqueror displays following problem with a large statusbar: http://imagebin.ca/view/gNmMYD.html Is this something common and easily fixable? |
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| 17:47.14 | Titan8990 | janis: that looks a hell of a lot like opensuse... |
| 17:47.21 | fanani | can u watch this : certainty |
| 17:47.25 | fanani | i'm sory |
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| 17:47.31 | janis | Titan8990, that is definately debian sqeeze |
| 17:47.33 | janis | :p |
| 17:47.45 | Rayne | is it possible to search for the package which created the user foo? |
| 17:47.47 | fanani | i'm bad a copy |
| 17:47.52 | shylent | looks like windows 7 to me ! :P |
| 17:48.01 | shylent | not really |
| 17:48.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | that seems to have worked... it's MINUTES since the last crash |
| 17:48.18 | Titan8990 | fanani: if english is not your native language, you might be able to get better help in one for your native language |
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| 17:48.33 | fanani | can u wath this : fanani.pastebin.com/EiFccwqA |
| 17:48.43 | fanani | i issue more proble after update debian |
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| 17:49.04 | |STF| | hi guys |
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| 17:49.09 | fanani | this : http://fanani.pastebin.com/EiFccwqA |
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| 17:50.23 | babilen | fanani: You want to use different mirrors - "/msg dpkg mirrors" for the list |
| 17:50.36 | janis | Can I temporarily instruct aptitude to use only stable repositories for a single session, w/o having to edit sources.lst? |
| 17:50.54 | fanani | ok , i want tray |
| 17:51.04 | Titan8990 | janis: you are mixing debian releases? |
| 17:51.08 | babilen | fanani: And as a sidenote: aptitude is the default package manager for lenny (and not apt-get) and I would encourage you to use it. |
| 17:51.15 | janis | Titan8990, yes, whatever works :p |
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| 17:51.47 | Titan8990 | janis: wait... are you the refuse to update kernel and udev problem? |
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| 17:51.52 | karlpinc | janis: Yes. There's an apt option for a filename instead of sources.lst. |
| 17:52.12 | janis | Titan8990, yep |
| 17:52.28 | janis | thx karlpinc, i'll search it |
| 17:52.40 | janis | Titan8990, well, if you are curious I can tell you how it went |
| 17:52.53 | Titan8990 | janis: I am not curious |
| 17:52.54 | |STF| | Does someone knows an alternativ to hostapd? Cause i have the problem that i have an usb-wlan-stick form msi , which use the rt2870 is not supported by hostapd |
| 17:53.05 | fanani | i'm sorry friend , because i'm after reade tutorial of ubuntu |
| 17:53.06 | fanani | :D |
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| 17:54.08 | babilen | fanani: Just telling you - apt-get works fine on Debian too :) (/msg dpkg why aptitude and /msg dpkg why not aptitude) |
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| 17:54.30 | janis | well, bottom line, I have what I want now, so I consider it a success. even though it could probably not have been sthing officially advised :p |
| 17:55.03 | fanani | and then now : http://fanani.pastebin.com/WmDde2CU |
| 17:55.43 | Titan8990 | !tell janis about moving target |
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| 17:56.20 | Titan8990 | fanani: babilen suggested you try a different mirror. you have not changed mirrors |
| 17:56.55 | fanani | titan, . . thank . I want search other loka miror |
| 17:56.56 | babilen | !tell fanani about mirrors |
| 17:56.57 | fanani | :D |
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| 17:57.18 | babilen | !tell fanani about sources.list |
| 17:57.34 | fanani | babilen : i want copu paste my miror on pastebin |
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| 17:58.39 | janis | Titan8990, I am happy with testing, but thanks :) So far I had few problems, and I had been enjoying kde4 which is not released afaik in the lenny version.. and other stuff. It is a tradeoff I am willing to deal with. I just like to not play by the rules, and the tools available should be allowing nme to do whatever I want, as long as they warn me of the possible consequences. That's the whole open source mentality as I perceive it :p And I |
| 17:58.39 | janis | respect what you have been warning me this far :)) |
| 17:58.43 | babilen | paste your /etc/apt/sources.list - but *you* need to decide which mirror you want to use. Or you can go with the default "http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main [contrib] [non-free]" where you replace <cc> with your country code |
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| 17:59.27 | fanani | babilen : |
| 17:59.28 | fanani | fanani.pastebin.com/wyQdW0qA |
| 17:59.34 | fanani | http://fanani.pastebin.com/wyQdW0qA |
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| 17:59.47 | fanani | it's my source /etc/apt/source.list |
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| 18:02.35 | babilen | fanani: yes - the kambing.ui.edu mirror does not work, so you need to use a *different* one. |
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| 18:03.18 | babilen | fanani: Are you sure that you want proposed-updates in there? |
| 18:03.24 | janis | does testing only provide one version of each package? |
| 18:04.13 | babilen | fanani: and you repeat the volatile entry |
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| 18:04.29 | babilen | janis: yes, the newest |
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| 18:04.37 | Titan8990 | janis: all repositories only provide one version at a given time |
| 18:05.01 | |STF| | Does someone knows an alternativ to hostapd? Cause i have the problem that i have an usb-wlan-stick form msi , which use the rt2870 is not supported by hostapd. Is there an alternativ driver? |
| 18:06.08 | Titan8990 | janis: debian is not typically a moving target like testing |
| 18:06.08 | fanani | babilen : i sure |
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| 18:06.08 | janis | Titan8990, I see... |
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| 18:06.08 | fanani | babilen : it miror is a large in my place |
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| 18:06.08 | fanani | :D |
| 18:06.08 | babilen | fanani: but it is not working apparently |
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| 18:06.52 | janis | Can I find older testing versions in a separate repository for that specific purpose? |
| 18:06.53 | fanani | babilen : are u know about it issue , |
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| 18:07.07 | |STF| | Can someone help me with hostapd? |
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| 18:07.21 | fanani | babilen : if u know about this issue , i will send a report to this mirror |
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| 18:12.29 | poochief | my debian machine has been acting kind of slow... any ideas? |
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| 18:17.32 | Rezagrats | Nvm, i had Cool'n'Quiet on. ;p |
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| 18:33.54 | abrotman | !flw |
| 18:33.54 | dpkg | <snadge> i want to create a version of debian that violates as many patents as possible, and is crammed full of non free software and warez.. call it debian warez edition. what do you think? :P |
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| 18:44.05 | laurus | I'm on Debian Squeeze with Xfce. For some reason the wireless manager, Wicd, cannot obtain an IP address from almost any wireless router. Does anyone know what is causing this problem? |
| 18:45.28 | aguitel_ | laurus, try with network-manager |
| 18:45.51 | HackeMate | hello |
| 18:46.15 | laurus | aguitel, is that a command line network manager? |
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| 18:46.50 | laurus | Oh, I see, it's the GNOME one. Ok! |
| 18:46.50 | HackeMate | I am worried by my son, he is using msn and closes its door, also doesn't let me to know who is he talking with, or what is he doing, is very worried if i appear closer to its computer, is there a good sniffer for my lan for msn? |
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| 18:47.11 | aguitel_ | laurus, in root:aptitude install network-manager |
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| 18:52.03 | Rezagrats | If for some reason i couldn't see the OK/Apply button in Screen Resolution prefences, what key combo would i use? |
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| 18:53.29 | unixp | where can i adjust the launch application if i want easily to open a directory? |
| 18:54.10 | unixp | if i choose "open the directory" it gets the launch application where i have to choose an application... |
| 18:54.26 | unixp | where can i find die File Manager adjust to set it to default? |
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| 18:55.25 | babilen | laurus: Take a look at the wicd.log before installing network-manager |
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| 19:00.22 | fruitwerks | anyone good with sed? http://pastebin.com/15sggb1s I can't figure this out |
| 19:00.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | there isn't a udev in bpo to use together with 6.3.32? |
| 19:00.48 | [Jasper] | hej guys, is there a php4 package for debian? |
| 19:00.50 | keith4 | fruitwerks: escape the $ |
| 19:01.04 | keith4 | !tell [Jasper] about search |
| 19:01.11 | fruitwerks | keith4 yeah.. like \$ ? |
| 19:01.14 | [Jasper] | I did a search keith4 |
| 19:01.25 | fruitwerks | nope |
| 19:01.42 | keith4 | [Jasper]: http://packages.debian.org/php4 |
| 19:02.30 | abrotman | [Jasper]: not in lenny or above |
| 19:02.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | fruitwerks, / |
| 19:02.39 | keith4 | fruitwerks: and terminate your s expression |
| 19:03.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, he didn't escape \ or use a different character to separate |
| 19:03.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | but it's not really a debian question, is it? |
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| 19:03.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, you're right, keith4 the next thing is supposed to be the filename |
| 19:03.45 | fruitwerks | I have been stuck on this for two hours.. and no, I just thought someone would know |
| 19:03.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | I thought it's part of the pattern :) |
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| 19:04.15 | fruitwerks | I always get hung up on the simplest things |
| 19:04.22 | keith4 | fruitwerks: you don't need to be "good with sed" to read the error message that sed spits out |
| 19:04.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | he he |
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| 19:04.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | reading error messages is uncool |
| 19:05.15 | fruitwerks | yeah I have searched for examples and everything is like way compliacted |
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| 19:05.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | not |
| 19:05.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | sigh - and seems build-dependencies for udev from testing demand I install a newer libc6 |
| 19:06.03 | fruitwerks | I keep finding examples that use awk and pipe it through sed like 8 times |
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| 19:06.12 | fruitwerks | and they don't apply to me lol |
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| 19:07.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's not really hard, though |
| 19:08.21 | fruitwerks | can you find an example that applies to my situation? |
| 19:08.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | we told you what's wrong |
| 19:08.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | or keith4 did |
| 19:08.53 | fruitwerks | yes escaping.. I can't find anything that makes sense |
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| 19:09.08 | wols | CutMeOwnThroat: the bpo 2.6.32 should work fine with your lenny udev |
| 19:09.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, terminate the damn expression with a / |
| 19:09.29 | wols | CutMeOwnThroat: and just cause some dependency says it needs a newer libc6, doesn't make it true |
| 19:09.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | wols, modules aren't loaded automatically - or at least I don't have sound which suggests that they aren't |
| 19:09.46 | wols | just try it with lenny libc6 |
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| 19:10.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | wols, yes, I know - but hard to figure which of the other dependencies I need as there's obviously some dependencies I don't |
| 19:10.02 | keith4 | fruitwerks: sed 's/old/new/' |
| 19:10.03 | fruitwerks | .. and I get $HOME as my replacement :( |
| 19:10.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | fruitwerks, you never said what you wanted to do |
| 19:10.37 | fruitwerks | and new is $HOME not what echo $HOME returns |
| 19:10.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | you're also a bit offtopic here - if you want to ask this, pleas ask the whole question so we can answer you |
| 19:10.58 | keith4 | isn't there a #sed? |
| 19:11.09 | fruitwerks | yes, but I have pissed everyone off |
| 19:11.12 | themill | fruitwerks: use " not '. And /msg dpkg sed help |
| 19:11.28 | fruitwerks | lol |
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| 19:12.19 | fruitwerks | meh |
| 19:12.26 | [Jasper] | thx abrotman |
| 19:12.31 | iceroot | how to see all dependencies a program have? (with sub-dependencies like a depends on b which depens on c) |
| 19:12.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | ,pciid 00:10.1 |
| 19:13.07 | fruitwerks | sed 's/%USERHOME%/$HOME' files/gm_conf > /root/test.log | replace %USERHOME% with the output of echo $HOME |
| 19:13.10 | wols | iceroot: apt-rdepends |
| 19:13.18 | iceroot | wols: thx |
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| 19:13.24 | wols | CutMeOwnThroat: that's no pci id, that's a pci address on the bus |
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| 19:13.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | I noticed :) |
| 19:14.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | but after loading the correct module + snd-pcm-oss, I still can't use /dev/dsp although it's there |
| 19:14.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | grmp |
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| 19:17.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, that's why: hda-intel: cannot find the slot for index 0 (range 0-1), error: -16 // Error creating card! //HDA Intel: probe of 0000:00:10.1 failed with error -16 |
| 19:17.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps I just go back to the older kernel |
| 19:17.29 | Titan8990 | CutMeOwnThroat: your having a lot of trouble today |
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| 19:17.42 | gutek999 | hi |
| 19:17.45 | themill | fruitwerks: use " not '. s requires three delimiters "s/pat/sub/" but you only have two. Use , or # rather than / for the delimiter. |
| 19:18.05 | gutek999 | except instaling alsa do i need anything more to have sound on debian ? |
| 19:18.13 | Titan8990 | themill: you should note he was getting help in #bash and this is _not_ the channel he was told to go to |
| 19:18.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | Titan8990, well, the machine didn't respond this morning, I had to reboot - I booted into the new kernel which I had installed (because of other problems), but not used... and since then there's trouble :) |
| 19:18.34 | Titan8990 | themill: and what you just explained to him has already been explained |
| 19:18.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps black cats ran over the keyboard left-to-right |
| 19:18.56 | themill | Titan8990: yes. I can imagine.... |
| 19:19.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh right, he was in #bash, too |
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| 19:20.43 | webPragmatist | anyone know a trick to installing pecl extensions for php |
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| 19:21.20 | webPragmatist | on debian* |
| 19:21.38 | themill | webPragmatist: try being more specific. /msg dpkg ask |
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| 19:23.26 | webPragmatist | hrmmâ¦. okay⦠I am trying to install a specific extension called FileInfo using the command sudo pecl install FileInfo ⦠i've restarted php but i can't seem to access that class that it is supposed to install |
| 19:23.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | sigh, will just reboot to the previous kernel |
| 19:23.32 | webPragmatist | php says it can't find it |
| 19:24.37 | wols | webPragmatist: and where did you install it to? and did you add it to the php config you use? |
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| 19:26.57 | webPragmatist | wols: not sure i used the commandâ¦. do you know the default path that pecl stuff gets installed? |
| 19:27.06 | webPragmatist | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:28.38 | webPragmatist | hr |
| 19:28.39 | webPragmatist | m |
| 19:29.47 | webPragmatist | all it found was the exec |
| 19:30.00 | Titan8990 | webPragmatist: if that path is really empty, then you did not properly install the package |
| 19:30.13 | webPragmatist | Titan8990: it says it's installed if i try to install it again |
| 19:30.36 | webPragmatist | it's not EMPTY it just doesn't have a class with the name FileInfo |
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| 19:33.09 | webPragmatist | well |
| 19:33.16 | webPragmatist | i dunno where it puts the pear extenions :) |
| 19:33.17 | webPragmatist | :( |
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| 19:36.04 | cant0r | uops, sorry |
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| 19:40.53 | rooisto47 | hi everyone, I have SSH access on a machine, and I would like to let a message for it's owner. Is there I mean to |
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| 19:41.35 | rooisto47 | send him a message that will be notified in the next reboot or in dmesg.... ? |
| 19:42.23 | |STF| | is here someone who has knowledge about running hostapd? |
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| 19:43.34 | themill | webPragmatist: pecl extensions go in different places to pear extensions; it should be in /usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/ (for lenny) and you should include a load= statement in /etc/php5/conf.d/ |
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| 19:44.11 | amereservant | Has anyone here used OpenSSH as their CA for SSL certificates? |
| 19:44.30 | webPragmatist | themill: thanks just figured that out⦠now to figure out why this fileinfo ext doesnt work |
| 19:44.38 | amereservant | means OpenSSL |
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| 19:46.24 | webPragmatist | this is the most frustrating thing ever |
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| 19:48.54 | |STF| | Has anyone an idea to create a hot spot manualy? Secondary protected throught WAP? |
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| 19:51.13 | |STF| | Has anyone an idea to create a hot spot manualy? Secondary protected throught WAP? |
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| 19:52.27 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell |STF| about hostapd |
| 19:52.46 | |STF| | hostapd cannot help me!!!!! |
| 19:53.09 | |STF| | It doesn't support my usb-wlan-stick |
| 19:53.59 | jelly-home | |STF|: I have no idea about APs. Try reading the factoids listed with /msg dpkg listvals access point |
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| 19:55.05 | unixp | must i mount a webcam if it doesnt will be identified by the webcam tools? |
| 19:56.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | you can't mount a webcam, it isn't a storage device |
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| 19:57.21 | unixp | actually /dev/video0 cant be found |
| 19:57.42 | unixp | how can i see which videoX is busy? |
| 19:57.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | is it a usb cam? |
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| 19:58.35 | unixp | yeah |
| 19:58.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | why don't you unplug/replug it and see what dmesg says about it |
| 19:59.35 | unixp | i maked |
| 19:59.56 | unixp | input: USB 2.0 PC Camera as /class/input/input9 |
| 20:00.28 | unixp | why it plugs on /class... = |
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| 20:01.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | !pastebin |
| 20:01.26 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastebin.ca/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>. |
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| 20:05.05 | smacnay | hmm, I am getting a hash error on libvte9. Is this known for sid updates? |
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| 20:07.23 | alecs1 | hi, have 3GB of memory, 2 are used and still the computer swaps a lot; what could be the problem? |
| 20:07.58 | alecs1 | Top sais: Mem: 3095284k total, 2332704k used, 762580k free, 14824k buffers |
| 20:08.23 | alecs1 | so as I understand, it has 700MB free and only 15MB disk cache... |
| 20:08.36 | S1kx | does anyone here have qmail + vpopmail setup? |
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| 20:17.12 | aRecordMan | hi! everybody! |
| 20:17.20 | Liquid-Silence | howdy |
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| 20:18.10 | aRecordMan | anybody can helpme, I have a little problem with my 3 sounds cards and a script to make record sound |
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| 20:20.22 | mv | hello I am having trouble installing squeeze on a macbook, can some one help? |
| 20:21.16 | aRecordMan | ummm macbook... damn! I cant help you |
| 20:21.26 | mv | quick background I've tried both the debian squeeze netinst and the crunchbang install both fail to load my keyboard so I can't select anything |
| 20:21.36 | aRecordMan | anybody know any apps to record sound from line-in with time? |
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| 20:22.05 | abrotman | with time ? |
| 20:22.19 | mv | It seems to be the installer itself not recognizing the macbook keyboard even though grub recognizes it |
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| 20:34.33 | Nwallins1 | is there any FOSS equivalent for http://www.fabulatech.com/usb-over-network.html ? |
| 20:34.55 | Nwallins1 | i.e. box 1 serves up a usb device over the network. box 2 can then access the usb device |
| 20:35.43 | Nwallins1 | box 1 would be a debian box, boxes 2 and 3 would be windows |
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| 20:36.42 | jelly-home | Nwallins1: not that I know of, in Debian or Linux at all |
| 20:37.41 | Alvaros | anybody know how can I get in Python channel? |
| 20:37.43 | Nwallins1 | ok, thx. fabulatech does have a linux version, so I will probably try that |
| 20:38.39 | g00se | I just tried both an internet phone call and recording with audacity. In both cases, i sounded like a slow-mo Darth Vader - what could be going on there? |
| 20:38.40 | amphi | Nwallins1: why not make the usb device accessible by samba? |
| 20:38.57 | Alvaros | sample rate |
| 20:39.08 | Alvaros | check out this... may be low bit rate |
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| 20:39.33 | abrotman | Alvaros: /join #python ? |
| 20:39.33 | Nwallins1 | amphi: the usb device is a drm thingie, it does work w/ fabulatech software served by windows, but the software also crashes the box every 10 days or so |
| 20:39.49 | g00se | Alvaros: That for me? |
| 20:39.55 | Nwallins1 | amphi: i am not sure the drm would work over SMB |
| 20:39.57 | amphi | Nwallins1: ah - I wot not of it |
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| 20:40.00 | abrotman | Alvaros: you have to be registered, /msg nickserv help, see #freenode for more help |
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| 20:47.15 | SerajewelKS | is anyone aware of any wiki software that (1) supports openid for auth, and (2) allows per-page ACLs? |
| 20:47.28 | SerajewelKS | on (2), both for editing and viewing |
| 20:47.36 | cusco | hi... |
| 20:47.51 | cusco | i stupidly deleted /var/cache/apt/archives/partial directory |
| 20:47.55 | cusco | what can I do? |
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| 20:48.43 | \amethyst | cusco: recreate it; it should be root:root, mode 755 |
| 20:48.56 | cusco | oh.. no important files in it? |
| 20:49.08 | cusco | thanks \amethyst |
| 20:49.19 | SerajewelKS | it's where apt stores partially-downloaded packages |
| 20:49.32 | K`zan | Hello All, I am having a problem with utube videos giving no audio in iceweasel when running as a non-root user. Running as root, the audio is there. All other media apps work fine with no problems. Googled for hours and tried a lot of it with no results :-(. Debian 5 / KDE 3.5 / iceweasel / adobe flash player 10 (reinstalled - no improvement). Any thoughts *greatly* appreciated! |
| 20:49.34 | cusco | ah cheers |
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| 20:49.51 | SerajewelKS | all of /var/cache/apt/archives can be removed safely, it's all downloaded stuff |
| 20:50.10 | cusco | :) |
| 20:50.16 | Rezagrats | What's the easiest wireless program to use to connect via a USB wireless adapter? |
| 20:50.18 | Titan8990 | often you just want something like aptitude autoclean though |
| 20:50.35 | SerajewelKS | Titan8990: right, just saying that it won't hose your system if you delete it by accident |
| 20:50.55 | Titan8990 | Rezagrats: "easy" is subjective. I say iwconfig |
| 20:51.33 | SerajewelKS | unless it's WPA, then you should really just throw the computer against the wall |
| 20:51.46 | SerajewelKS | or use networkmanager |
| 20:52.01 | Rezagrats | "easy" as in: has GUI, able to use my USB wireless adapter (ASUS USB-N13) and shows a list of the wireless connections., |
| 20:52.18 | sneezewort | I have a Debian server that is crashing with the error "rejecting I/O to offline device" and it cant log the cause because the /var is part of the offline device. Is there a way to log remotely? |
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| 20:54.37 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: network-manager-gnome |
| 20:55.29 | sneezewort | Never mind. I think I found it : http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-remote-syslog-logging-debian-and-ubuntu |
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| 21:00.01 | Rezagrats | SerajewelKS, that's already installed. :/ |
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| 21:00.18 | Tuscon | Hi. if I create a MySQL table without specifying a database.. what database does the table go into by default? |
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| 21:01.01 | CodeNinja | Tuscon: you cant |
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| 21:01.12 | CodeNinja | you will get a 'no database selected' error |
| 21:01.19 | Tuscon | CodeNinja: i just logged into mysql as root and created a table |
| 21:01.22 | Tuscon | no error |
| 21:01.29 | CodeNinja | pastebin your terminal |
| 21:02.14 | Tuscon | CodeNinja: http://pastebin.com/9iC74ane |
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| 21:02.42 | CodeNinja | Tuscon: the information after --user=root specified a table |
| 21:02.53 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: so.. use it :) |
| 21:02.55 | CodeNinja | you created a table in the mysql, mysql database |
| 21:03.04 | Tuscon | oh ok :p |
| 21:03.07 | Tuscon | i didnt knoww |
| 21:03.15 | Tuscon | so that table is in the 'mysql' mysql database |
| 21:03.20 | Tuscon | mysql.dnsbl |
| 21:03.26 | CodeNinja | yes, but do not leave it there |
| 21:03.28 | Rezagrats | How though, SerajewelKS? 'command not found' |
| 21:03.47 | CodeNinja | do use mysql; drop table dnsbl; create database [your database name]; [your create table statement]; |
| 21:03.53 | CodeNinja | er |
| 21:03.54 | CodeNinja | damn |
| 21:03.54 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: it should be running in gnome. do you see an icon in your notification area that looks like a computer? |
| 21:04.12 | CodeNinja | Tuscon: do this: use mysql; drop table dnsbl; create database [your database name]; use [your database name]; [your create table statement]; |
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| 21:04.59 | Tuscon | okay thanks :) |
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| 21:05.38 | Rezagrats | Yeah, SerajewelKS... but it's only showing 'wired network' and 'connect to 802.1X Protected wired network...' |
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| 21:06.17 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: then it sounds like you don't have a driver for it |
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| 21:06.58 | Rezagrats | I don't think ASUS made a linux driver for this usb adapter. |
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| 21:07.41 | cusco | Rezagrats: check the chipset rather |
| 21:07.48 | cusco | Rezagrats: lsusb |
| 21:08.21 | Rezagrats | Ok... that isn't telling me much though. |
| 21:08.38 | Tuscon | CodeNinja: ERROR 1396 (HY000): Operation CREATE USER failed for 'dnsbl'@'localhost' |
| 21:08.41 | Tuscon | :/ |
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| 21:11.34 | dancek | Tuscon, I can't really help but if you get no help here you could try #mysql |
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| 21:13.33 | Rezagrats | Cusco: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0b05:1784 ASUSTek Computer, Inc. 802.11n Network Adapter |
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| 21:15.05 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/RT2800USB.html |
| 21:15.12 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: what kernel are you on? (uname -r) |
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| 21:15.58 | Rezagrats | 2.6.26-2-686 |
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| 21:16.41 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: yeh according to that page, the driver is available in 2.6.31 and on |
| 21:16.59 | SerajewelKS | ,versions linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 21:16.59 | Rezagrats | :| |
| 21:17.01 | judd | linux-image-2.6-686 -- etch: 2.6.18+6etch3; etch-security: 2.6.18+6etch3; etch-backports: 2.6.26+17~bpo40+2; lenny: 2.6.26+17+lenny1; lenny-backports: 2.6.32+25~bpo50+1; sid: 2.6.32+25; squeeze: 2.6.32+25 |
| 21:17.09 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: bpo has 2.6.32 |
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| 21:17.56 | Rezagrats | As soon as i can find a backup tool that will back up my / (minus /home and /swap), i'll gradly open up to live repos and update my system. |
| 21:18.09 | Rezagrats | * gladly |
| 21:18.09 | SerajewelKS | !tell Rezagrats about backports.org |
| 21:18.30 | Rezagrats | Yeah... |
| 21:18.45 | SerajewelKS | i doubt the kernel is going to hose your system |
| 21:18.51 | Rezagrats | The last time i updated GRUB, my system became screwed up. |
| 21:18.55 | SerajewelKS | and by the looks of it that's all you need |
| 21:18.58 | SerajewelKS | that's because you did it wrong :) |
| 21:19.09 | Rezagrats | Not really. |
| 21:19.15 | Rezagrats | It was a net install... |
| 21:19.19 | Argafal_ | I have no clue why. But reproducible two times my computer freezes to death on the final linking of building webkit from sources using apt-get -b source libwebkit. |
| 21:19.24 | Rezagrats | And i couldn't boot, at all. |
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| 21:20.04 | SerajewelKS | Argafal_: bad memory perhaps? |
| 21:20.05 | Argafal_ | I'm on stable, I manually built and installed libproxy(-dev) and libsoup2.4(-dev) on the same way of doing it. libwekit fails. Every time. No swapping, no temperature rise, no mouse moving, no change to console possible. |
| 21:20.34 | Argafal_ | SerajewelKS: i'd not hope so but i'll certainly test while sleeping later. |
| 21:20.48 | Argafal_ | is there any way to resume the apt-gtet -b source instead of starting from zero? |
| 21:20.51 | SerajewelKS | Argafal_: otherwise maybe try a different kernel version just to see if that changes anything |
| 21:21.04 | SerajewelKS | Argafal_: there is, man dpkg-buildpackage |
| 21:21.23 | SerajewelKS | Argafal_: it's in there somewhere, i forget what the option is exactly. key words to look for are "no/don't clean" |
| 21:22.16 | amphi | -nc if I recall correctly |
| 21:22.18 | Argafal_ | -nc Do not clean the source tree (implies -b). |
| 21:22.36 | Argafal_ | Does that refer to "do not clean before starting" or to "do not clean after compiling/linking"? |
| 21:22.54 | amphi | the former |
| 21:23.10 | Argafal_ | so i change into the sourcedir now and execute dpkg-buildpackage -b -nc? |
| 21:23.25 | SerajewelKS | also -uc -us -rfakeroot |
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| 21:23.52 | SerajewelKS | that's my usual stanza anyway |
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| 21:24.25 | ScottO_ | is there a way to display the disk model number without smartmontools? |
| 21:24.36 | o2 | how can i add packages from contrib and non-free into a debian live image (usb-hdd)? |
| 21:24.43 | Rezagrats | SerajewelKS, what would you suggest as a backup tool ? |
| 21:24.46 | amphi | ScottO_: hdparm for one |
| 21:24.51 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: tar |
| 21:25.00 | Argafal_ | SerajewelKS: amphi yeah, starts directly with CXXLD libwebkit-1.0.la now. |
| 21:25.08 | Argafal_ | let's see if it freezes again. |
| 21:25.18 | Rezagrats | ... for my system, SerajewelKS? |
| 21:25.43 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: uhm, still tar... |
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| 21:26.15 | Rezagrats | So how do i go about using tar for making a ghost of my / ? |
| 21:26.33 | ScottO_ | amphi: doesnt seem to have any flags for model |
| 21:26.46 | amphi | hdparm -I |
| 21:27.03 | ScottO_ | oh i was looking at -i :P |
| 21:27.06 | ScottO_ | thanks |
| 21:27.15 | amphi | hdparm -I /dev/sda | grep Model |
| 21:27.25 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: generally: tar --one-file-system -cvf /some/file/on/another/filesystem/backup.tar |
| 21:27.35 | amphi | it's probably in sysfs somewhere, for that matter |
| 21:27.35 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: if you want compression, add -z or -j |
| 21:27.39 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: and "man tar" :) |
| 21:28.15 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: you need to backup to another filesystem unless you want tar to tar the tar you are creating too, which causes all sorts of nasty problems |
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| 21:28.53 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: --one-file-system keeps tar from crossing into mounts, so it will ignore /dev, /proc, /sys, anything mounted in /mnt or /media, etc |
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| 21:29.11 | DataBase | hi |
| 21:29.16 | DataBase | i need help |
| 21:29.18 | DataBase | is some one her |
| 21:29.19 | DataBase | ?A |
| 21:29.20 | sneezewort | I am testing my log server. What is a command that will write to /var/log/messages? |
| 21:29.32 | SerajewelKS | Rezagrats: and it would be safest to do this from a livecd so you don't backup e.g. a database file at a critical time |
| 21:29.36 | ceil420 | sneezewort: echo? |
| 21:29.38 | DataBase | ?????? |
| 21:29.45 | Argafal_ | system load raises to 5... lets see if it survives |
| 21:29.47 | ceil420 | echo "sometext" >> /var/log/messages |
| 21:29.54 | ceil420 | or whatever the pipe is |
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| 21:30.19 | sneezewort | I think it has to pass through syslogd. |
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| 21:30.41 | ceil420 | then i dunno :) |
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| 21:31.09 | SerajewelKS | sneezewort: man logger |
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| 21:32.02 | sneezewort | Thanks SerajewelKS! It works! |
| 21:32.09 | SerajewelKS | sneezewort: np |
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| 21:33.49 | ujkanovic | is some one her |
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| 21:34.42 | jwie | hi can someone help me with this http://pastebin.com/hFUcnrM5 |
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| 21:35.30 | dondelelcaro | jwie: #mysql can |
| 21:35.40 | jwie | :( |
| 21:35.56 | dondelelcaro | jwie: but you're missing a comma anyway |
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| 21:36.11 | Argafal_ | SerajewelKS: amphi in addition i check dmesg this time around the high load. result is here, there are some kernel backtraces in there i'm not sure where they originate from :-/ www.argafal.de/public/dmesg |
| 21:36.12 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: aww, beat me to it |
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| 21:37.04 | ujkanovic | i got this eror can some one help me |
| 21:37.05 | ujkanovic | root@comcerto:/etc# apt-get upgrade |
| 21:37.05 | ujkanovic | Reading Package Lists... Error! |
| 21:37.05 | ujkanovic | E: Couldn't make mmap of 10000001 bytes - mmap (22 Invalid argument) |
| 21:37.05 | ujkanovic | W: Unable to munmap |
| 21:37.05 | ujkanovic | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. |
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| 21:37.21 | SerajewelKS | Argafal_: looks like it's running out of memory...? |
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| 21:37.44 | SerajewelKS | Argafal_: that's my best guess anyway. not sure how you'd debug this further, i'll defer to others. |
| 21:37.50 | SerajewelKS | !tell ujkanovic about pastebin |
| 21:38.10 | Argafal_ | of 2GB physical RAM and 6 GB SWAP? when starting without cleaning? :-/ but it went through this time, installing and testing is next. |
| 21:38.12 | SerajewelKS | !tell ujkanovic about mmap |
| 21:38.25 | jwie | dondelelcaro: what line :/ |
| 21:38.26 | ujkanovic | http://paste.debian.net/71138/ |
| 21:38.33 | ujkanovic | i cant macke no update |
| 21:38.37 | ujkanovic | whay |
| 21:38.45 | SerajewelKS | ujkanovic: see what dpkg told you about mmap |
| 21:38.55 | ujkanovic | what sims to be the problem can some one help me |
| 21:39.02 | SerajewelKS | Argafal_: well, i see [ 917.367614] swapper: page allocation failure. order:2, mode:0x4020 |
| 21:39.24 | SerajewelKS | Argafal_: perhaps you're not running out of memory, but it apparently can't allocate a swap memory page for some other reason? |
| 21:39.24 | Argafal_ | iwlagn 0000:03:00.0: Failed to allocate SKB buffer with GFP_ATOMIC. Only 0 free buffers remaining. |
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| 21:39.27 | themill | ujkanovic: what version of apt is this?: dpkg -l apt |
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| 21:39.48 | Argafal_ | SerajewelKS: are you sure this couldn't be an unrelated problem of iwlagn? cause that is a kind of crappy wifi driver. |
| 21:39.57 | Argafal_ | I'm lost in all those messages and errors :-( |
| 21:40.06 | Argafal_ | but packages install fine, at least |
| 21:40.23 | albondi | any one knows a good program or live-cd distro to repair corrupted ntfs mbr & partitions? |
| 21:40.43 | SerajewelKS | Argafal_: no, i have no idea :) |
| 21:40.54 | SerajewelKS | Argafal_: debugging the kernel is not one of my strengths |
| 21:41.25 | SerajewelKS | albondi: the only thing that's really good at repairing ntfs is windows chkdsk |
| 21:41.36 | Argafal_ | SerajewelKS: was a big help anyways. |
| 21:41.47 | Gellert | hello guys. i want to install srelay-0.4.7p3 from source @ debian 5 ./configure OK , make OK, but when i want to make install i get error. anyone can help me? the error msg is "make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop." whats the problem? |
| 21:41.58 | SerajewelKS | Argafal_: np, hope you get those errors figured out, they don't look good... you might try upgrading the kernel and see if the messages stop |
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| 21:42.21 | SerajewelKS | Gellert: is this a debian source package? |
| 21:42.27 | Gellert | nope |
| 21:42.45 | Argafal_ | SerajewelKS: yeah. well. thank you! I appreciate you listening and contributing ideas. probably someone else has some more ideas, otherwise i'll do some more tests trying to narrow it down. |
| 21:42.45 | SerajewelKS | Gellert: then it looks like the authors didn't include an install rule, or you are running make install in the wrong directory |
| 21:42.55 | SerajewelKS | Argafal_: anytime |
| 21:43.10 | Gellert | what can i do now? to make it work ?:D |
| 21:44.17 | albondi | SerajewelKS: do you know of any live-cd or framework of tools that allows the user to run diagnostics on the disk (make a backup image of the raw data first, for example) |
| 21:44.38 | SerajewelKS | albondi: any linux livecd can take an image with dd |
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| 21:44.46 | SerajewelKS | albondi: (as long as you have somewhere for it to store the image, that is) |
| 21:44.47 | Gellert | SerajewelKS: http://socks-relay.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 21:45.02 | SerajewelKS | Gellert: don't send me there, file a bug report with them :P |
| 21:45.12 | SerajewelKS | Gellert: or just run it out of the source directory |
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| 21:45.25 | Gellert | okay |
| 21:45.26 | SerajewelKS | Gellert: it's not really a debian-related thing though |
| 21:45.37 | Gellert | okay, sorry :) |
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| 21:46.00 | o2 | hi, a question about debian live and persistence: do i need a home-rw partition, if i use full persistence? |
| 21:46.01 | SerajewelKS | Gellert: np |
| 21:47.44 | albondi | SerajewelKS: im currently running ubuntu 9.10 & lastest kernel, but gparted wont actually see the partition (wont display type) but fdisk does, so how can i run chkdsk? |
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| 21:48.18 | SerajewelKS | albondi: chkdsk is a *windows* program, not a linux one |
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| 21:48.56 | albondi | SerajewelKS: that is my dillema, i cant boot into windows nor know of a live cd capable of running chkdisk |
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| 21:49.38 | SerajewelKS | albondi: my last suggestion to you is to google bart's pe... i've used that live cd before. but don't ask questions about it here. |
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| 21:50.40 | albondi | SerajewelKS: heh that should have been your first suggestion, thanks! |
| 21:50.52 | SerajewelKS | albondi: np. and don't run linux on ntfs! |
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| 21:51.00 | albondi | i am not, i dualboot |
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| 21:54.17 | n3lab | can anybody help me with compiz? after debian testing upgrade compiz not working( |
| 21:54.49 | n3lab | how can i check what is wrong with him?) |
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| 22:19.46 | Titan8990 | gnome on my machine takes an abnormally long time to start (about three times as long as it takes the machine to boot)... does anyone have a suggestion on identifying the performance issue outside of `strace`? |
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| 22:20.23 | dkr | Titan8990: ctl-alt-f1 and run top |
| 22:20.44 | dkr | Titan8990: and possibly turn off stuff in gnome session startup |
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| 22:20.58 | Titan8990 | dkr: ah, well that is an idea. I disabled most everything from gnome session startup |
| 22:21.15 | Titan8990 | my initial thought was it was waiting on avahi to timeout, but was not the case |
| 22:21.46 | Titan8990 | dkr: I will give plain top a try... have to reboot however because if I log in a 2nd time its fine (likely because the needed information is already in ram) |
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| 22:21.57 | dkr | pstree also may be useful, to see what is running what |
| 22:22.49 | Titan8990 | I had once seen a tool that makes a graphical log of the boot proc. I was hoping for something like that but I can probably still manage |
| 22:22.52 | dkr | maybe it's network-manager, that thing is often screwy, :) |
| 22:22.56 | Titan8990 | dkr: thanks for the suggestion |
| 22:23.04 | Titan8990 | dkr: i don't use nm, not even installed |
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| 22:25.32 | babilen | Titan8990: The tool would be bootchart - not sure if that helps with your problem though whatever it might be |
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| 22:27.04 | BlackFate | bootchart will stop loggin after X is up |
| 22:27.13 | BlackFate | so im not sure it will help with gnome issues |
| 22:27.36 | PARLIAMENT | XML is like violence: if it doesn't solve your problem, you aren't using enough of it. |
| 22:27.42 | babilen | no idea what the issue is - just translated "a tool that makes ..." into the package name :) |
| 22:28.17 | dkr | babilen: appreciated. I was looking for it myself out of curiosity |
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| 22:35.45 | Titan8990 | babilen: ah, thanks |
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| 22:36.39 | Titan8990 | dkr: top was not useful. Nothing was eating CPU during that time. system-config-printer-applet hit 100% very briefly as well as gconf |
| 22:37.23 | smhar | I have a usb hauwie device that I am using successfully in my squeeze notebook. I tried it today in a friends notebook running squeeze too. In my computer it connect to /dev/ttyUSB0 but in the other computer there is no /dev/USBanything |
| 22:37.48 | albondi | SerajewelKS: would you happen to know where I could ask nfts/hard drive related questions? |
| 22:37.57 | Titan8990 | dkr: it almost appears me that gnome-panel is what is taking so long... going to look further into that |
| 22:38.00 | jelly-home | is that huawei for dyslexics? |
| 22:38.35 | Titan8990 | albondi: ##hardware maybe? |
| 22:38.45 | jelly-home | albondi: or ##windows |
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| 22:40.44 | jelly-home | shoots Titan8990 down with a hauwie(tzer) |
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| 22:45.08 | Suzula | HI, I installed debian. now I want customize it, but when a Install a theme gtk2 the theme do work, stay as Win 95, somebody can help me? |
| 22:45.28 | Suzula | I've murrine and nnodka engines installed |
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| 22:51.24 | nat2610 | hey with start-stop-daemon how can I run a process as a user and not root ? |
| 22:51.34 | nat2610 | run a deamon I meant |
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| 22:52.47 | trumpen | nat2610: use --chuid |
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| 23:01.17 | albondi | well, its nor really debian related, but are there any .deb tools capable of fixing broken/corrupted partitions, ntfs in particular? its displayed as "raw data" and I don't really know how to fix that |
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| 23:07.45 | sh4g0 | i need help, why i can't connect me with a wifi,¿ |
| 23:07.59 | fefo | why can't i own porsche ? |
| 23:08.15 | abrotman | sh4g0: do we get more details ? |
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| 23:09.18 | sh4g0 | oks, before i can connect with a wifi but today i don't know why i can do tath |
| 23:09.31 | sh4g0 | i can't do tath |
| 23:09.39 | sh4g0 | tath |
| 23:10.20 | abrotman | sh4g0: what does 'uname -r' say .. and what did you change since yesterday ? |
| 23:10.33 | sh4g0 | uname -r |
| 23:10.37 | sh4g0 | ok |
| 23:10.46 | abrotman | what does it say on your computer .. |
| 23:11.06 | sh4g0 | 2.6.26-2-686 |
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| 23:12.11 | abrotman | and what did you change ? |
| 23:12.32 | sh4g0 | nothing :S |
| 23:12.47 | abrotman | okay .. then i can't help you if nothing has changed |
| 23:13.09 | albondi | abrotman: i suppose he doesnt remember what it said yesterday; i mean he doesn't know the importance of a kernel update |
| 23:13.11 | sh4g0 | :O ok xD |
| 23:13.11 | abrotman | i mean .. obviously it would just work if it worked before and nothing ash changed |
| 23:13.20 | abrotman | sh4g0: do you have an error ? |
| 23:14.23 | abrotman | albondi: you'd probably want to ask ##windows or maybe ##linux if no one answers you here |
| 23:15.02 | sh4g0 | no |
| 23:15.10 | sh4g0 | just don't connectit |
| 23:15.14 | abrotman | there's no error and nothing has changed ? |
| 23:15.23 | albondi | sh4g0: be as verbose as possible, think of things that change from yesterday to today, like maybe a system update occured? |
| 23:15.38 | sh4g0 | albondi: noo |
| 23:15.41 | sh4g0 | noithing |
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| 23:16.43 | albondi | is the physical switch set to OFF by any chance? |
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| 23:18.25 | brah | sh4g0, and what does "I can't connect" mean? Adapter doesn't show up? Is it not detecting your wifi router? Is it but are you unable to connect? |
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| 23:24.23 | albondi | guess problem got solved heh |
| 23:24.56 | albondi | or ESL, if that is the case seek help in #debian-yourlanguageinitials |
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| 23:27.26 | flipjargendy | Anyone here using Debian and touchscreen successfully on the same computer? |
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| 23:28.39 | flipjargendy | ...been trying to figure it out for a day but something seems to be missing. |
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| 23:31.26 | flipjargendy | Why cant there be one good website with info on Debian. |
| 23:31.35 | flipjargendy | :-( |
| 23:32.07 | abrotman_ | there are lots? |
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| 23:32.54 | flipjargendy | Not with the info I am looking for. |
| 23:33.27 | flipjargendy | I am trying to get Touchscreen to work properly |
| 23:33.40 | abrotman_ | that's kind of an xorg driver thing |
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| 23:34.13 | flipjargendy | Yeah. I have found a few websites that pretty much tell you to do the same thing but there is something missing. |
| 23:34.19 | flipjargendy | I just cannot figure it out. |
| 23:34.38 | flipjargendy | It seems right, what I have found but it doesn't work |
| 23:34.55 | abrotman | checked the BTS ? |
| 23:35.04 | abrotman | or the /usr/share/doc/<driver>/ ? |
| 23:35.32 | flipjargendy | BTS = ? |
| 23:35.39 | abrotman | !bts |
| 23:35.39 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
| 23:35.41 | dondelelcaro | flipjargendy: it depends on what touchscreen driver you're talking about |
| 23:35.48 | flipjargendy | right. |
| 23:35.57 | dondelelcaro | (there are at least three or for that I know of, and I've gotten two of them working fine) |
| 23:37.01 | flipjargendy | It is for a Panasonic CF-29, which uses the same as a serio |
| 23:37.23 | flipjargendy | ...apparently |
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| 23:37.52 | flipjargendy | abrotman: thanks for the BTS info |
| 23:39.24 | flipjargendy | abrotman: if the driver is not in /usr/share/doc/<driver>/ then it is not installed, would you say? |
| 23:39.44 | sphenxes | is there any peer to peer chesss software to linux? |
| 23:39.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | a driver being the guy in front of the bus? |
| 23:39.47 | abrotman | did you subsititute <driver> for the xorg driver ? |
| 23:39.50 | dondelelcaro | sphenxes: yes |
| 23:39.56 | dondelelcaro | sphenxes: gnuchess, for instance |
| 23:40.06 | flipjargendy | abrotman: yeah. but it wasn't ther.e |
| 23:40.20 | flipjargendy | I installed it though apt-get |
| 23:40.26 | sphenxes | dondelelcaro, thanks i will take a look |
| 23:40.26 | flipjargendy | hmm :-/ |
| 23:40.27 | abrotman | flipjargendy: what was the driver? |
| 23:40.31 | flipjargendy | evtouch |
| 23:40.32 | abrotman | or rather .. the package |
| 23:40.38 | flipjargendy | 0.8.8 |
| 23:40.46 | flipjargendy | ...thought I installed anyway. |
| 23:41.35 | flipjargendy | ah it is xerver-xorg-input-evtouch |
| 23:41.44 | abrotman | /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-input-evtouch/README.Debian ? |
| 23:41.53 | flipjargendy | let me check it |
| 23:42.04 | abrotman | looks like a few files to read to start |
| 23:43.11 | flipjargendy | aha! Only xerver-xorg...-evdev is there |
| 23:43.25 | flipjargendy | maybe that is the problem |
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| 23:43.58 | Sarago | Are there minimal installers for debian? |
| 23:44.13 | sh4g0 | i can restart eth?¿ |
| 23:44.21 | themill | dpkg: tell Sarago about installer |
| 23:44.47 | someuser111 | everytime I'm ssh'd into my server and I use nano to edit a file, when I click the backspace key it acts like a delete key (ie it deletes the letter to the right, and not to the left). is there a reason for that? |
| 23:45.24 | flipjargendy | abrotman: thanks, that got me on another track. I am going to try to install evtouch manually instead of through apt-get... maybe that is the problem since it appears to have installed evdev instead. |
| 23:45.43 | abrotman | that's prpobably intentional |
| 23:45.49 | Sarago | themill: I get that, but do you know of a distribution like crunchbang based on ubuntu that provides a minimal install, sort of a blank slate with just essentials + x |
| 23:46.00 | flipjargendy | abrotman: international? |
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| 23:46.06 | themill | Sarago: the debian installer is that by default |
| 23:46.15 | abrotman | intentional |
| 23:46.16 | themill | Sarago: except without X |
| 23:46.19 | abrotman | on purpose |
| 23:46.31 | flipjargendy | abrotman: oh... bad reading sorry. Would you say it shoudl work? |
| 23:46.42 | flipjargendy | ..w/ evdev or evtouch? |
| 23:46.48 | flipjargendy | no matter which one it is then? |
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| 23:46.55 | someuser111 | is there any way to change it? so the backspace works like it would normally? would I need to edit the profile file? or what? |
| 23:46.58 | Sarago | themill: so just installing the base is as minimal as it gets |
| 23:47.46 | abrotman | that's what the BTS is for? |
| 23:48.05 | Arrowmaster | what the hell has happened to the iceweasel icons? they look fugly now |
| 23:48.13 | abrotman | flipjargendy: if the driver says it supports it, it probably should |
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| 23:48.43 | flipjargendy | okay. thanks for the help abrotman. I have some more reading to do. |
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| 23:49.16 | gop | hi is thier a proper way to install debian server on to a usb flash drive |
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| 23:50.28 | abrotman | gop: /msg dpkg usb install |
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| 23:50.44 | Efrain | hola amigos |
| 23:50.49 | someuser111 | nevermind, found a solution |
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| 23:51.10 | Efrain | disculpen la molestia es que necesito una ayudita |
| 23:51.17 | Efrain | acabo de instalar debian en mi maquina |
| 23:51.32 | Efrain | solo instale el cd 1 |
| 23:51.55 | Efrain | pero no logro encontrar donde descargar mas paquedes o donde agregar o desinstalar programas |
| 23:52.24 | Efrain | nisiquiera veo la coneccion de internet :S me pueden ayudar porfa |
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| 23:52.37 | RadSurfer | anyone know of good frame-grabbing,webcam video sending software for linux? |
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| 23:53.06 | oh_noes | is there anything i can use to monitor/view and record internals of all processes? File description, amount of memory being used and CPU etc? |
| 23:53.11 | oh_noes | For example, sar, but for each pid |
| 23:53.43 | Efrain | irc debian spañol???? |
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| 23:54.33 | abrotman | !es |
| 23:54.33 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor /join #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please /join #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 23:54.59 | Efrain | tççgracias |
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