| 00:00.04 | jaalto | Qhat the NROFF quivalent for HTML <pre></pre>? |
| 00:00.08 | ham5 | screen.... -ctrl a S -> create split screen how do you do the capital S ? |
| 00:00.34 | jordanm[titan] | ham5: shift + s |
| 00:00.42 | ham5 | tried that |
| 00:00.48 | jordanm[titan] | ham5: works for me |
| 00:00.53 | jaalto | Uhm, rephrase: "What is the NROFF equivalent for HTML <pre></pre> tags?" |
| 00:01.14 | ham5 | I was holding the ctrl a... nm... thx jordanm |
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| 00:08.33 | karsten | Is there any reasonably sane way to tell if a terminal supports ANSI escape sequences or not? |
| 00:08.44 | aef | hi, what do i have to do to install ubuntu on a debian lenny xen hypervisor? xen-create-image fails with dist set to lucid. |
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| 00:10.07 | ham5 | no u fai |
| 00:10.08 | ham5 | l |
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| 00:12.10 | Tametomo | Well, do you already know a way to? If you do, then why not write a bash script to do it. Then it doesn't matter if it's sane or not. |
| 00:12.46 | Tametomo | Unless you mean sane as in sane on resources, but I wouldn't think that'd be an issue. |
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| 00:15.17 | Tametomo | well, I also think that it'd be a safe assumption as well that it would. Is there a specific shell that you use that doesn't support ANSI escape sequences? |
| 00:15.37 | Tametomo | If so, I'd just test for that shell, and try to work around it. |
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| 00:36.02 | KiiK | Hi. I add testing repo to sources.list. how to prevent it upgrade to Squeeze ?? |
| 00:36.24 | ham5 | remove testing repo |
| 00:36.42 | aguitel | KiiK, write # |
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| 00:37.13 | aguitel | KiiK, in the begining of the line |
| 00:37.14 | KiiK | but I want to download some pakage from testing. |
| 00:37.29 | ham5 | add testing repo |
| 00:37.39 | aguitel | KiiK, just download it and delete all lines from squeeze |
| 00:37.51 | ham5 | or format |
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| 00:46.47 | jhutchins_lt | KiiK: Is it backported? |
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| 01:07.17 | autopsy | Any patches exist to allow jigdo-file to scan squashfs image file properly and create template files using make-template? |
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| 01:08.08 | autopsy | It is rather odd this tool is widely used, but doesn't support a pretty common and stable filesystem type, especially squashfs. |
| 01:08.23 | Cain | Hi, any idea how to fix this ==> ( http://pastebin.com/Gg9kNXAQ ) it's about an external usb hard drive (reiserfs system) which is not recognized by the system anymore |
| 01:09.27 | jordanm[titan] | Cain: sure that is not a hardware problem with the usb device? |
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| 01:10.21 | Cain | jordanm[titan] : i can't tell :/ i have another usb hard drive which is working just fine |
| 01:10.45 | Cain | jordanm[titan] : it worked fine until this morning ^^ |
| 01:10.50 | autopsy | Cain, the one that works is not the one that doesn't which is what his question was. |
| 01:11.58 | jordanm[titan] | Cain: I would test on another machine if you can. That could be a problem with the drive itself |
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| 01:12.39 | Cain | jordanm[titan] : under windows will tell if the usb device is working or not ? (reiserfs is not recognized by windows is it ?) |
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| 01:14.06 | autopsy | Cain, windows will register the device at least, similar to lsusb. |
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| 01:16.26 | Cain | autopsy : windows says : USB Device Not Recognized, i guess jordanm[titan] was right :( |
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| 01:17.27 | autopsy | Cain, easy way to tell, try to mount it. |
| 01:17.45 | autopsy | If it fails and was working this morning, I would have to agree it is broken. |
| 01:18.05 | Cain | autopsy : when it pluged on linux i can't see it |
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| 01:23.33 | hedgehoginfog | how do i compute the integral (dz/|z-a|^2) along the circle |z|=rho? |
| 01:24.04 | dondelelcaro | hedgehoginfog: ask in #math, not here |
| 01:24.17 | hedgehoginfog | dondelelcaro, yeah, wrong channel, sorry |
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| 01:26.05 | dondelelcaro | hedgehoginfog: no worries |
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| 01:57.58 | Janos | hey there, there is a closed bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=547183, i tried the kernel version posted there and the problem still persist i tried writing to 547183@bugs.debian.org and it returns my email stating that this bug has been archived, should i open a new report for this or is there any other way to post to it ? |
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| 02:01.13 | abrotman | Janos: which kernel version do you have ? |
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| 02:03.42 | seeker7 | how can i tell what version of debian i have |
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| 02:03.54 | abrotman | !version |
| 02:03.54 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. and: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n 1. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list; run apt-cache policy <packagename>, or lsb_release -a, or cat /proc/version. Do cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} which should grab almost all distributions. |
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| 02:04.42 | karsten | abrotman: ... which version of the version factoid is that? |
| 02:06.17 | abrotman | 42? |
| 02:06.27 | Janos | abrotman: i just installed Version: 2.6.26-22 and it's running right now, what i did was activate the s-p-u rep and installed just the linux-image package from it |
| 02:07.45 | abrotman | you might get better luck asking #debian-kernel on irc.oftc.net .. though it is kind of late |
| 02:07.45 | abrotman | they do have a mailing list |
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| 02:08.19 | Janos | abrotman: kk thanks |
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| 02:09.51 | seeker7 | ok looks like i have 4.0 what is the advantage to upgrade to 5.0 |
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| 02:10.03 | abrotman | uhm .. 4.0 has no more security support ? |
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| 02:10.45 | seeker7 | ok can i simply upgrade without a total reload |
| 02:10.59 | abrotman | !tell seeker7 about etch->lenny |
| 02:12.11 | penrod | greetings: I have a dhcp-server that has been running for a few months now, suddenly there are errors, such as duplicate ip requests and multiple requests for an ip before an ack is receieved. Any ideas ? |
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| 02:24.21 | dos000 | how can i stop flash files support in firefox at certain times ? this is for parental control |
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| 02:25.35 | NiLon | dos000 I don't think that would be anything trivial |
| 02:26.06 | NiLon | but be kind of easier block whole firefox |
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| 02:28.13 | dos000 | NiLon, it seems there is a way to stop all surfing using iptables and the current user |
| 02:28.49 | NiLon | dos000 yes it's kind of easier than disabling flash :) |
| 02:29.06 | dos000 | mmmm |
| 02:29.07 | NiLon | but also talking power cord away helps a lot |
| 02:29.35 | Cain | jordanm[titan] : thx again for the tip, i'm using another usb device with the same Harddisk and it works ^^ (the harddisk is fine ^^) |
| 02:29.49 | dos000 | NiLon, i want the kids to still use the PC for homework |
| 02:30.04 | dos000 | but i want to stop them doing youtube |
| 02:30.21 | abrotman | judd: info dansguardian --release lenny |
| 02:30.23 | judd | dansguardian (web, optional): Web content filtering. Version: 2.9.9.4-1+lenny1+b1; Size: 457.6k; Installed: 1972k |
| 02:30.41 | NiLon | if your kids are clever enough it might become hard to prevent them for browsing heh |
| 02:30.56 | NiLon | it's easy to set proxy from random port |
| 02:31.36 | dos000 | yeah .. one day .. that is still going to be better than doing youtube. they will learn bypassing which i see as a + |
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| 02:35.37 | dos000 | is it possible to make ffox reload all its plugins ? i could maybe rename the firefox flash plugin so by renaming it |
| 02:35.53 | simonrvn | chmod 000 it |
| 02:36.14 | dos000 | simonrvn, what happens to the current process using the so ? |
| 02:36.20 | simonrvn | then setattr +i |
| 02:36.32 | simonrvn | it's loaded into memory in ff's case |
| 02:36.43 | simonrvn | (iirc) |
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| 02:37.10 | dos000 | simonrvn, yes its loaded at startup or first discovery of a flash file |
| 02:38.08 | dos000 | simonrvn, is setattr +i going to stop the current procesces or i have to kill the process ? |
| 02:38.24 | simonrvn | no |
| 02:38.36 | simonrvn | the setattr +i is for the .so |
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| 02:43.07 | dark | how can i give X server access to other users? |
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| 02:58.34 | fruitwerks | anyone know a good web-based firewall that is not an appliance? |
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| 03:00.03 | wols_ | !tell dark about xauth |
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| 03:01.53 | jordanm[titan] | fruitwerks: pfsense |
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| 03:16.01 | krisfremen | hmm |
| 03:16.39 | krisfremen | is there any way to add a new monitor without actually restarting the pc or x11? |
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| 03:16.57 | dondelelcaro | krisfremen: yes |
| 03:17.14 | dondelelcaro | krisfremen: assuming the video card is already there, you can just plug it in, and use xrandr to configure it |
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| 03:17.37 | krisfremen | i've never had the need to do this before.. and now i'm clueless as to how to do it |
| 03:17.42 | krisfremen | looks into xrandr |
| 03:18.15 | jordanm[titan] | wouldn't expect it to require configuration |
| 03:18.39 | jordanm[titan] | unless you are talking about second monitor |
| 03:18.43 | dondelelcaro | krisfremen: it's usually just a matter of something like xrandr --output VGA-1 --left-of VGA-0; or similar |
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| 03:20.36 | krisfremen | scratches head |
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| 03:23.52 | krisfremen | damn.. why the hell are they mirrored |
| 03:24.24 | ham5 | 2 heads are better then one |
| 03:26.34 | krisfremen | damn damn damn |
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| 03:27.29 | krisfremen | how do i get one big desktop? |
| 03:27.43 | ham5 | twinview? |
| 03:27.43 | dondelelcaro | krisfremen: using --left-of or similar instead of --same-as |
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| 03:27.55 | krisfremen | i did use that |
| 03:28.03 | dondelelcaro | krisfremen: what does xrandr; output? |
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| 03:31.08 | krisfremen | hmm |
| 03:31.13 | krisfremen | now it says |
| 03:31.31 | krisfremen | screen cannot be larger than 1440x1440 (desired size 2464x900) |
| 03:31.38 | dondelelcaro | krisfremen: yeah, so there you go |
| 03:32.55 | dondelelcaro | krisfremen: you need to increase the size of the display so that you can do that; add a SubSection "Display" with a Virtual section |
| 03:33.44 | krisfremen | so i do need to restart X |
| 03:33.46 | krisfremen | damn |
| 03:33.58 | krisfremen | i was hoping i could do this without restarting |
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| 03:38.30 | jonathanpoon | hey guys...I'm currently trying to install centOS on a system with 9 hard drives. During the partitioning process, 8 of those hard drives (sda,sdb,sdc,sdd,sdf,sdg,sdi,sdj) are used for a software RAID 10. sda-sdd are connected on a marvell PCI-Express SATA controller. I install the / directory in the sde hard drive (sde-sdi are on the motherboard). The install works fine...but I run into trouble afterward. When I try to |
| 03:38.39 | jonathanpoon | ccording to device.map, hd4 maps to /dev/sde. When I edit and change root=(hd0,0), the computer boots, but it ends up taking a LONG time to boot...but I believe the RAID 10 resyncing......any idea whats going on? Is there some kind of device remapping after I get the system to boot? |
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| 03:51.03 | dark | wols_, thank you. i'm seeing a seemingly gdm-specific how to, http://mydebian.blogdns.org/?p=154 - since i use slim, i need to look this in slim docs, right? |
| 03:51.44 | dark | reading /etc/slim.conf |
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| 03:54.19 | krisfremen | yay! |
| 03:54.48 | dark | hi |
| 03:54.48 | krisfremen | now if only i could somehow limit the mouse movements to not go off the second monitor, as that one has smaller resolution |
| 03:55.08 | krisfremen | it just disappears.. very confusing |
| 03:55.18 | ham5 | man u got alota problems |
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| 03:59.16 | krisfremen | anyone knows what to use to do that? |
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| 04:05.58 | krisfremen | damn, i messed it up again |
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| 04:06.48 | fbt | hi, has anyone tried Clementine on Squeeze? |
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| 04:09.35 | ham5 | try typing !anyone fbt |
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| 04:35.01 | MeglaW | fuse: failed to open /dev/fuse: Permission denied |
| 04:35.06 | MeglaW | ? |
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| 04:35.37 | Liquid-Silence | as riit>? |
| 04:35.40 | Liquid-Silence | err |
| 04:35.41 | Liquid-Silence | root? |
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| 04:35.45 | Liquid-Silence | or a user? |
| 04:35.51 | MeglaW | yeah as i use |
| 04:35.56 | MeglaW | i will try to sudo |
| 04:36.06 | Liquid-Silence | make sure the user is in the correct group |
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| 04:37.18 | MeglaW | yeah that worked |
| 04:37.26 | MeglaW | Liquid-Silence: aha! yeah thats the problem |
| 04:37.55 | Liquid-Silence | :) |
| 04:38.12 | Liquid-Silence | looks @ his kernel compile |
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| 04:40.54 | ham5 | man your really smart liquid! |
| 04:41.18 | Liquid-Silence | ham5: lol |
| 04:41.23 | ham5 | ;) |
| 04:41.30 | Liquid-Silence | I just broke openboxes menu |
| 04:41.30 | Liquid-Silence | :P |
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| 04:47.36 | acu | where can I see how many bugs are left on squeeze ? |
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| 04:48.12 | ham5 | :\ |
| 04:48.26 | ham5 | do they count stuff like that? |
| 04:48.34 | kornholi | yes |
| 04:49.02 | dark | of course o.o debian needs to have 0 bugs (or at least 0 serious bugs..) in order to ship |
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| 04:50.03 | karlpinc | http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ |
| 04:50.34 | ham5 | humm |
| 04:51.50 | ham5 | 974 togo from squeeze to get stable? |
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| 04:53.08 | karlpinc | ham5: 614 |
| 04:53.20 | Liquid-Silence | ham5: ok I am off to work |
| 04:53.53 | ham5 | hf liquidSilencE |
| 04:54.23 | ham5 | fyi acu.. I run squeeze with a hint of sid... no problems |
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| 04:56.50 | ham5 | 614 pfff |
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| 04:58.20 | acu | ham5 - I run squeeze in 4 computers - but I want to have some production webservers and mail servers - and wonder when they were freeze |
| 04:58.35 | near | hi guys |
| 04:58.41 | ham5 | ic |
| 04:58.48 | near | what program do you suggest to send a fake email |
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| 04:59.02 | ham5 | GOOD QUESTION near |
| 04:59.12 | near | i want to send it as someone else |
| 04:59.23 | ham5 | hahaha yea good one |
| 04:59.30 | ham5 | fake email thats the best |
| 04:59.34 | near | and for the prank to work it must seem legit |
| 04:59.42 | near | im downloading mixmaster |
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| 04:59.47 | muffin2 | Hi |
| 04:59.51 | near | and i dont want to do it by telnet .. |
| 04:59.54 | factor | is the only way to get kpresenter to hook up to the stable debian |
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| 05:02.08 | karlpinc | near: emacs. It's the answer to everything. |
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| 05:04.04 | near | getting it |
| 05:04.18 | factor | well I use VI |
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| 05:05.10 | karlpinc | factor: Can you cut and paste without the mouse? That's my litmus test for editor proficency. |
| 05:05.25 | factor | yup |
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| 05:05.52 | factor | but I can cut and paste without the editor even |
| 05:06.00 | factor | i.e bash cut and paste |
| 05:06.07 | factor | and some sed |
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| 05:12.53 | muffin2 | This is terrific. |
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| 05:13.41 | muffin2 | Everything about debian 5.0.4 amd64 is good execpt it doesn't seem to have a GUI font installer. |
| 05:13.47 | near | im not able to do it in emacs |
| 05:13.49 | muffin2 | I don't want to manage my fonts on console. |
| 05:13.54 | near | anyone has any idea where the codes are placed? |
| 05:13.57 | muffin2 | Even KDE has a font manager. |
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| 05:14.46 | simonrvn | apt-cache search font viewer ; one or more install them to ~/.fonts with clickies |
| 05:15.33 | muffin2 | Why does debian have iceweasel instead of firefox? |
| 05:15.37 | muffin2 | It's really a weasel. |
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| 05:16.04 | near | ice - fire weasel - fox |
| 05:16.20 | muffin2 | simonrvn : there is no hit. |
| 05:18.37 | K0JIbKA | hi all! |
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| 05:19.04 | karlpinc | !tell muffin2 about why iceweasel |
| 05:20.04 | near | anyone can help me spoofing senders email address? |
| 05:20.08 | muffin2 | Does debian have a GUI font manager as KDE? |
| 05:20.56 | karlpinc | near: rfc2821 and 2822 |
| 05:21.30 | near | reques for comments? |
| 05:22.08 | near | i know how the mail works, i just need a program that does it ... |
| 05:24.05 | ham5 | well back in my day the kids used avalanche |
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| 05:32.34 | muffin2 | Does anybody know a GUI font manager? |
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| 05:34.13 | near | dont you have it |
| 05:34.15 | near | in system |
| 05:34.16 | near | appearence |
| 05:34.17 | near | fonts? |
| 05:34.44 | muffin2 | near : They only list current fonts and don't install fonts. |
| 05:35.55 | K0JIbKA | I enjoy Debian Stable. Everything is great! A little bit compatibility with Toshiba laptops would be extremely appreciated though. Just resently I managed to activate internal bluetooth adapter. I'm not expert in command line and everything I could was done in GNOME. Same like most other systems an icon appears in panel bar whenever I used to type <modprobe omnibook ectype=14>. It took me some time to set everything with the kind help from http://www.linuxf |
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| 05:37.03 | Vasistha | muffin2: you want a gui tool which will help you find and install fonts? |
| 05:37.06 | K0JIbKA | i.e. initially it worked now don't |
| 05:37.10 | muffin2 | Vasistha : yes |
| 05:37.22 | Vasistha | muffin2: never heard of one |
| 05:37.30 | muffin2 | Vasistha : doesn't KDE have one? |
| 05:37.36 | near | to install them |
| 05:37.43 | near | you can just double click them in nautilus |
| 05:37.45 | Vasistha | muffin2: hmm. |
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| 05:37.51 | near | but to find them ... |
| 05:37.51 | muffin2 | near : It's terrific. |
| 05:37.59 | muffin2 | near : I know where they are |
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| 05:38.20 | near | what do you mean by terrific? |
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| 05:38.44 | muffin2 | near : That I can install a font by just double-clicking it is terrific |
| 05:39.44 | near | oh you mean like great |
| 05:39.54 | ham5 | lol |
| 05:40.26 | near | not my first language xD |
| 05:42.21 | muffin2 | near : It could look like terrible at the first sight. |
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| 05:43.53 | near | i see |
| 05:44.03 | near | so i cant send the prank email still |
| 05:44.10 | near | avalanche is for windows ~~ |
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| 05:44.48 | K0JIbKA | any hints? |
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| 05:44.53 | ham5 | really doubt your host is going to let you send a email with a fake addy anyway.. give it up |
| 05:45.59 | g00se_ | dhcpdump gives this as a usage example: dhcpdump -i /dev/fxp0 -h ^00:c0:4f. I assume the interface is being given as a udev node. I have nothing like that under dev and wonder what i should be using for my nic(s)? |
| 05:46.05 | near | i did it in the past i can remember |
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| 05:46.28 | near | there are some websites but you have to pay to remove the header that says its fake |
| 05:46.29 | Vasistha | K0JIbKA: I've never gotten bluetooth working myself on my lappy, and I've rarely seen it discussed in here. That said... /msg dpkg laptops - /msg dpkg bluetooth |
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| 05:47.24 | muffin2 | Debian 5.0.4 is very old. |
| 05:47.30 | muffin2 | It has old GNOME and nautilus |
| 05:47.41 | muffin2 | There is no way to update nautilius by package manager. |
| 05:47.55 | muffin2 | It is as fast as windows 98, though. |
| 05:48.11 | muffin2 | I never experienced this booting and GUI speed for years. |
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| 05:50.04 | K0JIbKA | Vasistha: I see |
| 05:51.15 | Vasistha | muffin2: yeah, 5.0.4 is getting pretty old. We're due for a new version soon, probably in a few months. I'm guessing August. |
| 05:51.36 | MeglaW | what will it be called.. |
| 05:52.26 | muffin2 | Vasistha : would it still maintain the performance? |
| 05:52.34 | muffin2 | Ubuntu and Kubuntu was somewhat slow. |
| 05:52.37 | muffin2 | *were |
| 05:53.23 | Vasistha | the next debian will be called squeeze. I'm not sure what number it will have. Performance depends directly on what services you're running. |
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| 05:53.52 | muffin2 | Vasistha : By default, ubuntu and kubuntu are slow. |
| 05:54.12 | ham5 | 200+ tasks running |
| 05:54.13 | ham5 | no doubt |
| 05:54.16 | K0JIbKA | I must remove non Debian package kToshiba then, http://ktoshiba.sourceforge.net/ |
| 05:55.34 | Vasistha | muffin2: that's because by default they have a lot more services running. |
| 05:55.58 | Vasistha | muffin2: you could strip a lot of that out and they'd be fast; likewise, you could bog down debian with a whole lot of services and it would be slow |
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| 05:57.00 | muffin2 | Vasistha : I mounted ntfs partitions, and those mounted partitions only allow access to root. What is wrong? |
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| 05:57.33 | Vasistha | muffin2: man mount |
| 05:57.45 | muffin2 | Vasistha : I read it and have no clue. |
| 05:57.48 | Vasistha | muffin2: there are some special ntfs settings... |
| 05:57.53 | muffin2 | Oh |
| 05:57.55 | muffin2 | Right |
| 05:58.41 | muffin2 | Vasistha : I think it's difference between mount versions. |
| 05:58.53 | Vasistha | muffin2: that is probably not your trouble |
| 05:59.17 | muffin2 | Ubuntu mount had ntfs partitions set to 777 permission. |
| 05:59.29 | muffin2 | I wanted to change it to 755 though. |
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| 06:03.02 | Vasistha | muffin2: ubuntu sets more of that stuff up for you. I don't have any ntfs partitions but I can try to help you get it set up. What does your /etc/fstab say right now? Or is the partition even listed there? |
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| 06:04.30 | muffin2 | Vasistha : I listed them |
| 06:04.48 | muffin2 | Vasistha : man mount on debian says by default permissions are only given to root. |
| 06:05.01 | muffin2 | So I'd have to set umask or uid. |
| 06:05.22 | Vasistha | muffin2: have you tried that? |
| 06:05.22 | muffin2 | It's not a big deal after you prompted me to look at ntfs section |
| 06:05.28 | muffin2 | Vasistha : I will soon. |
| 06:05.35 | muffin2 | Right now I have few more things to do |
| 06:05.43 | Vasistha | good luck! |
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| 06:09.45 | xerophyte | how can i find installed mod_security modules version number with apache? |
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| 06:10.41 | OpenTokix | xerophyte: libapache-mod-security mod-security-common |
| 06:10.53 | OpenTokix | xerophyte: And then I guess you need to do a2enmod mod_security |
| 06:11.45 | krisfremen | damn... new python released a few days ago is screwing up some of my apps |
| 06:11.48 | xerophyte | OpenTokix: just wanna find the version of installed one |
| 06:11.56 | OpenTokix | xerophyte: ahh, sorry |
| 06:12.39 | OpenTokix | xerophyte: apt-cache show libapache-mod-security |
| 06:12.50 | OpenTokix | xerophyte: will show you the one in aptsources you are using |
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| 06:15.06 | krisfremen | damn... how do i downgrade python? |
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| 06:15.56 | Vasistha | xerophyte: dpkg -l 'libapache-mod-*' |
| 06:16.11 | xerophyte | thx guys actually apache logs says |
| 06:16.25 | Vasistha | krisfremen: not usually very easy. what version do you have now? |
| 06:16.54 | krisfremen | 2.5.5-6 |
| 06:17.10 | krisfremen | i want to go back to python2.5 2.5.5-2 |
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| 06:18.10 | Vasistha | krisfremen: oh ... well, if you still have the .deb package then that might be possible |
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| 06:18.40 | Vasistha | !tell krisfremen about moving target |
| 06:18.50 | krisfremen | nope, all aptitude, and i think i purged it yesterday |
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| 06:19.27 | Vasistha | yeah, I keep debs around for some time. I figure it's worth a little disk space. |
| 06:19.53 | krisfremen | dang, so i can't get previous debs from somewhere else?? |
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| 06:20.03 | Vasistha | there may be a place. snapshots? |
| 06:20.05 | Vasistha | !snapshot |
| 06:20.05 | dpkg | http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces the old http://snapshot.debian.net/ site that is no longer maintained. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
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| 06:23.54 | krisfremen | woot found it |
| 06:23.58 | krisfremen | Vasistha: now what? :D |
| 06:24.19 | Vasistha | krisfremen: dpkg -i package.deb |
| 06:24.32 | Vasistha | krisfremen: you may have to make some effort to remove the newer version |
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| 06:26.19 | krisfremen | blames python for having so many deps!! |
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| 06:27.10 | krisfremen | whoot, i think i got it installed |
| 06:27.16 | krisfremen | lemme see if it works |
| 06:27.53 | krisfremen | DAMN! |
| 06:28.02 | Vasistha | xerophyte: oh btw, another way -- if you have php installed -- is to run the php function, phpinfo |
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| 06:30.51 | krisfremen | whoot Vasistha!! thanks! |
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| 06:30.56 | krisfremen | saved my day :) |
| 06:31.02 | Vasistha | glad to be of service |
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| 07:09.05 | click170 | Hey, if I add something to my sources list in order to install an app, how can I lock it down so that they can't put a malicious libc6 library in their repository tricking apt into 'upgrading' to it? |
| 07:09.44 | dark | click170, there is some apt features for controlling your preferences among sources, such as "pinning" |
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| 07:10.47 | dark | click170, you could put the priority of your disliked source to below everything else, and then do aptitude install -t something. then it will prefer every other repository, even when updating this something |
| 07:11.17 | dark | http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html may help you |
| 07:11.58 | click170 | dark, thank you! Extremely appreciated :) |
| 07:12.22 | dark | np ^^ |
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| 07:23.05 | Vasistha | click170: another thing you can do is not import their public key, so whenever you install anything from there you will get a warning telling you it's an untrusted source |
| 07:23.36 | click170 | Thanks for the tip Vasistha, thats a good idea too. |
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| 07:26.16 | Argafal | Vasistha: click170 on the other hand this will take you the possibility of verifying the repository, so i wouldn't do that. |
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| 07:27.14 | omes | how can i remove all the rc files of packages i've removed? |
| 07:27.27 | Vasistha | Argafal: that sentence didn't make sense |
| 07:27.48 | Vasistha | omes: in your home directory or in /etc ? |
| 07:28.11 | omes | Vasistha: all the packages listed as rc when i do dpkg -l |
| 07:28.16 | Argafal | Vasistha: why? if you remove the public key you can't verify that the repository is really the repository you think it is. |
| 07:28.38 | omes | Vasistha: so i guess in /etc |
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| 07:28.49 | omes | and where-ever else they might lurk |
| 07:28.49 | Vasistha | Argafal: oh, now I understand what you are saying. "this will take you the possibility" ... doesn't parse |
| 07:29.15 | omes | what i really want is to get the system back to what it was like from the netinstall without installing the system all over again |
| 07:29.16 | Vasistha | Argafal: I see, you're absolutely right, that's a bad idea. |
| 07:29.50 | Vasistha | omes: why? |
| 07:30.10 | omes | Vasistha: i don't have access to the box, and I really want it as clean as possible |
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| 07:30.36 | Vasistha | omes: why? |
| 07:30.45 | robertzaccour | are proprietary wireless drivers able to be installed by default? |
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| 07:30.56 | omes | Vasistha: well because this is going to be a semi-production box |
| 07:30.59 | Argafal | if you don't have access to the box you probably shouldn't be messing with the system? just an idea... |
| 07:31.00 | Vasistha | omes: do you have personal files on there? Did you make configuration changes you wouldn't want someone to see? Are you |
| 07:31.25 | omes | Vasistha: like i said, i don't have physical access to the box, a reinstall is not possible at this point |
| 07:31.53 | Vasistha | robertzaccour: uh, depends on the situation? definitions of "able", "installed", and "default" may vary |
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| 07:32.12 | Vasistha | robertzaccour: which driver, specifically? What's your radio? |
| 07:32.12 | omes | Vasistha: only thing i really need is to have all the rc files removed |
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| 07:32.20 | omes | Vasistha: can you help me with that? |
| 07:32.32 | Vasistha | omes: probably. can you give me an example of one such file? |
| 07:32.50 | omes | rc sendmail-base 8.14.3-5+lenny1 powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans |
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| 07:32.56 | AlexC_ | Morning |
| 07:33.03 | Vasistha | omes: you mean *packages* ? |
| 07:33.03 | TripleDES | moin |
| 07:33.05 | robertzaccour | Vasistha, its a dell mini 9 |
| 07:33.10 | omes | Vasistha: yes |
| 07:33.10 | AlexC_ | is it possible to get the file size of the contents within a .tar archive? |
| 07:33.29 | omes | Vasistha: --purge didn't work for some odd reason |
| 07:33.36 | Vasistha | omes: oh! all this time you kept saying files, you meant packages |
| 07:34.04 | omes | Vasistha: i mean the rc files of those packages |
| 07:34.05 | robertzaccour | Vasistha, its a broadcam sta wireless driver |
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| 07:34.16 | Vasistha | !broadcom |
| 07:34.16 | dpkg | Broadcom Corporation is an integrated circuits supplier. For wireless LAN chipset drivers, ask me about <b43>, <wl>. For Ethernet chipset support, ask me about <bnx2>, <bnx2x>, <tg3>. |
| 07:34.30 | robertzaccour | i don |
| 07:34.31 | Vasistha | robertzaccour: /msg dpkg b43 |
| 07:34.35 | robertzaccour | i don't understand that |
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| 07:36.05 | robertzaccour | ok so the numbers that aren't supported are not listed |
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| 07:37.52 | Vasistha | robinetd: you can also /msg dpkg wl |
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| 07:41.45 | asr | hello |
| 07:42.20 | asr | UDEV problem on initrd / initramfs |
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| 07:43.14 | asr | I have a partition on /proc/partitions, on /sys/bus/ide/.../hdc3/, but invisible to udevadm |
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| 07:43.54 | asr | and, of course, the main symptom, hdc1 (nor hdc) is not in /dev |
| 07:43.59 | asr | any idea ? |
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| 07:45.03 | vizzy | hi, i installed kernel-package 12.0.33 in lenny, now i can compile 2.6.33 without problems. but the initrd is not build into tha package. how can i do this? same commandline with 2.26-29 creates a ramdiskfile, in 33 it doesnt |
| 07:45.20 | vizzy | i guess its related to kernel package, new options? |
| 07:45.30 | Vasistha | !kernel mantra |
| 07:45.30 | dpkg | it has been said that kp mantra is make-kpkg clean ; export VER=$(date +'%Y%m%d') NAMEEXT="-$(hostname)-$(dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_ARCH)"; make-kpkg --revision=$VER --append-to-version=$NAMEEXT --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image . Add --initrd before kernel_image if you need an <initrd>. |
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| 07:46.28 | vizzy | "fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version=.t42p-8rt1 --initrd kernel_image kernel_header" , yes i did --initrd but there is NO initrd file created in the package! |
| 07:46.40 | vizzy | i use kernel-package 12.033 |
| 07:47.29 | vizzy | the created .deb file doesnt contain an initrd file, and grub gets no entrys for an initrd file, which leads into unbootable system, or ... do it manually which is odd, it worked before..... |
| 07:48.31 | vizzy | modules_image also often crashes without a useful message, irda module cant build, hahaha, but thats another story, anyway...modules are in the deb file already, no need to build |
| 07:48.49 | Vasistha | vizzy: well... maybe the problem is that you should not have installed the testing kernel-package into lenny? Did you look on backports first? |
| 07:48.51 | SNow | how can I transfer ip for backends in varnish (http_x_forwarded_for) |
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| 07:49.33 | vizzy | Vasistha, no, i dont have any testing kernels. hmmmmm |
| 07:50.02 | Vasistha | vizzy: no, I mean the package that is called "kernel-package" not an actual kernel |
| 07:50.03 | vizzy | Vasistha, i dont have any testing kernels, i use lenny |
| 07:50.27 | vizzy | Vasistha, without that kernel-package from squeeze, debian refuses to compile the kernel at all! |
| 07:50.39 | Argafal | i'd like you to have a look onto this dmesg copy: www.argafal.de/public/dmesg. the errors you see happened during the linking of a webkit build. The machine runs on AMD64 and has 2GB RAM, 6GB Swap. |
| 07:50.48 | Argafal | If you'd have any ideas what to do, please let me know. |
| 07:51.15 | vizzy | Vasistha, with old kernel-package i get stupid version conflict errors.... |
| 07:51.27 | vizzy | blabla kernel version does not match debian version :P |
| 07:51.33 | AlexC_ | how can I pipe the output of 'yes' to a file, and stop once this file reaches a certain file size? |
| 07:51.41 | Argafal | one teaser in addition: "swapper: page allocation failure. order:2, mode:0x4020" |
| 07:51.43 | AlexC_ | s/pipe/redirect |
| 07:52.02 | vizzy | well known problem, a few tipss are arond in the net. i found them after searching for hours.... hack the kernel package version info or just install new package |
| 07:52.32 | vizzy | ok, so.... no initrd from make-kpkg, i do it manually, thats less pain ;) |
| 07:52.35 | Vasistha | vizzy: do you really need 2.6.33 rather than 2.6.32? |
| 07:52.42 | asr | AlexC_: yes|head |
| 07:53.04 | AlexC_ | asr, a ha, of course - thanks |
| 07:53.07 | vizzy | Vasistha, yes, i need my own kernel, sdoesnt matter what version up from 2.6.27 because of gspca modules |
| 07:53.34 | Vasistha | vizzy: you mean, you need to roll your own? |
| 07:53.34 | asr | AlexC_: do you know anything in initrd ? |
| 07:53.37 | vizzy | Vasistha, but all kernels i tried are broken a bit, maybe thinkpad acpi, maybe bad atheros etc. and 2.6.33 worked fine |
| 07:53.40 | asr | no. in udev ? |
| 07:53.41 | AlexC_ | asr, no, sorry |
| 07:53.56 | vizzy | Vasistha, yes, because i get no new lenny kernel with full gspca support and latest! drivers |
| 07:54.24 | vizzy | and i need realtime for jack etc pp ;) |
| 07:55.05 | Vasistha | AlexC_: hmm. seems like I recently saw a creative way to do this. #bash might know. |
| 07:55.18 | AlexC_ | Vasistha, yes a | head -c 10485760 > 10mb did it :) |
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| 07:55.31 | Vasistha | oh ... yeah, that would work, I suppose |
| 07:56.28 | Vasistha | vizzy: well, good luck to you |
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| 07:57.06 | vizzy | Vasistha, thanks, all is fine, except automagic creation of initrd. if this should work with --initrd, i guess a new fresh bug in kernel-package :)) |
| 07:58.59 | vizzy | but its a bit bad .... i could not give away a fresh deb rt kernel package to my musicians ... but write a complex install kernel and ramdiskfile and edit menu.lst howto :P |
| 08:01.00 | Doodlez | I'm having trouble with kerneloops Im not sure what it is and it was consuming resources like crazy. I noticed that some of my log files where huge and I kept seeing " hpijs: unable to write to output, fd=8, count=4096: Broken pipe" over and over again the file was like half a gig. So I cleared my print que and reinstalled all of the cups components. The other symptom I am having is that my mouse cursor is constantly running. I wo |
| 08:01.01 | Doodlez | uldn't ask fot help but I can't think of any where else to check for clues !!!!! Please help me :( I would not call my self a power user but after 3 years I would like to think I was competent on my own system : / |
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| 08:02.24 | Doodlez | also in maintenance mood kerneloops does not run. |
| 08:02.43 | vizzy | Doodlez, just deinstall it, its useless |
| 08:02.50 | vizzy | kernelopps also hangs up my pc |
| 08:03.02 | vizzy | just killall -9 kerneloops, the deinstall ! |
| 08:03.15 | Doodlez | <vizzy> I did do that |
| 08:03.19 | vizzy | its a 'tool' to watch kernel oops thingys and mails to the devs |
| 08:03.32 | asr | vizzy: you could add "update-initramfs -u" in the debian/postinst |
| 08:03.38 | Doodlez | there is still something wrong on my system |
| 08:03.40 | vizzy | which often fails and hangs up system if no email is configured etc pp |
| 08:03.40 | asr | before make-kpkg |
| 08:03.57 | asr | but I presume it is already |
| 08:04.07 | vizzy | asr, ? woot, let me try, that sound cool, i'll check that |
| 08:04.18 | Doodlez | my cursor is stuck with the loading giff |
| 08:04.42 | vizzy | but that means to edit the debian postinst file? i see that everything is removed from debian dir when i type make-kpkg... but let me check |
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| 08:05.00 | vizzy | Doodlez, always or just now after rebooting? |
| 08:05.06 | vizzy | Doodlez, in X? kde? |
| 08:05.07 | Doodlez | always |
| 08:05.14 | Doodlez | gnome |
| 08:05.20 | vizzy | press ctrl+alt+f1, login as root, dmesg |
| 08:05.23 | Doodlez | u kno i didnt try just booting to X |
| 08:05.34 | vizzy | oh |
| 08:05.42 | Doodlez | : / |
| 08:05.57 | vizzy | loading giff? gif-image or loading an app named 'giff' ? sorry :> |
| 08:06.26 | Doodlez | No Im sorry .. when you open an application it shows that little I'm thinking animation |
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| 08:06.43 | Doodlez | I tried killing everything |
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| 08:06.57 | Doodlez | and I did not see any thing in dmesg that stood out |
| 08:06.57 | vizzy | aaah |
| 08:07.27 | vizzy | you didnt try booting to X but ewhen you click an app it shows a thinking animation? erm |
| 08:07.48 | Doodlez | Just starting X |
| 08:08.00 | Doodlez | session with out running gnome |
| 08:08.04 | vizzy | ok, start the app from the consolewindow, kterm, gterm, however |
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| 08:08.33 | vizzy | asr, i checked my linux sourcedir, but i dont have a debian/postinst file. |
| 08:09.00 | niklaswe | hmm if i using xen with lvm.. and extend one volume. why cant i use xfs_growsfs in my virtual machine..? nothing happens (I have xfs as filesystem). |
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| 08:10.24 | asr | vizzy: man make-kpkg , search /post |
| 08:10.45 | asr | you'll find an interesting paragraph about initrd, and postinst |
| 08:11.39 | vizzy | asr, cool thanks, ... i checked debian again with find and saw a few postinst files. but you mean te systemwide thingy... that explains, thank you |
| 08:14.01 | vizzy | asr, isnt it /etc/kernel/... postinst.d for example? but this directory is empty, they are all empty in /etc/kernel/ |
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| 08:19.20 | vizzy | asr, i now added the command to postinst-hook in /etc/kernel-img.conf .... if i understand the manpage correct, if there is an option, it does not take care of --initrd , is tha tcorrrect? so i did postinst_hook =update-initramfs -u ; grub-update |
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| 08:24.31 | vizzy | grml, creating a new kernel with make-kpkg always needs about 2hours on my system, isnt there a way to speed it up? i just typed it twice, and it wiped out all and compiles from beginning... is that necessary? |
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| 08:25.09 | vizzy | the funny thing is, i creates 2.6.33.2 without rt patch |
| 08:26.09 | vizzy | fine, then copied dir to *-rt and patched source, build ne kernel, and make-kpkg says it uses directory 2.6.33.2 instead of 2.6.33.2-rt ? why? symlink linux points definitely to rt kernel too! |
| 08:26.24 | asr | Yis !!! |
| 08:26.24 | vizzy | so, compiling the wrong kernel now? |
| 08:26.31 | asr | is sorry |
| 08:26.38 | asr | my kernel has boot. |
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| 08:27.06 | asr | thanks to a .config of slax O:-) |
| 08:27.30 | vizzy | my kernel boots too, but only if i create a manually initrd and change all root partitions to sda instead of hda due to new ata driver lib |
| 08:27.42 | asr | vizzy: yes it is, but you can cross compile on a quick server |
| 08:27.47 | vizzy | seems make-kpkg isnt that magic |
| 08:28.08 | asr | oh, yes, the new drivers are evil. |
| 08:28.21 | vizzy | it now uses wrong sourcedirectory! how bad is that.... argh |
| 08:28.29 | asr | usb is renamed too (uba,ubb instead of sdxx) |
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| 08:29.13 | vizzy | asr, thats nice, because if i put a cardreader to usb and boot, i loose all my partitions in 2.6.26 :)) udev thinks usb has priority, which is bullshit |
| 08:29.40 | asr | Oh⦠|
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| 08:30.22 | asr | but, for my new kernel, the precedent was 2 years old, I spent 2 full days and a half before seeing init. |
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| 08:30.47 | asr | (ipv6 + vserver, on a via C3-not-fully-686) |
| 08:31.08 | gromgull | morning - anyone have a checklist of things I can go over to make auto-mounting usb-storage devices work again in gnome in unstable? :) |
| 08:31.11 | asr | thanks all for your help about udev :-> |
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| 08:31.13 | gromgull | It used to work a few months back |
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| 08:31.31 | vizzy | asr, just plugged in a cardreader in usb, im under 2.6.33.2, my cf card is still sdb1 |
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| 08:32.38 | Argafal | how does the moderation of the bts work? if i send a mail to add information to an existing bug report using the "reply to this bug" address, what happens with it? Manual review before it is added to the bug report? Greylisting of the mail? |
| 08:32.40 | vizzy | but as i see now, gspca supports my usb webcam, but i see many v4l errors in dmesg :( |
| 08:33.05 | vizzy | Argafal, if you send back an email, its appended to the tracker as a comment/note |
| 08:33.17 | vizzy | no review |
| 08:33.26 | vizzy | so be careful what you send!!!! |
| 08:33.31 | vizzy | you cant revert |
| 08:33.35 | vizzy | :> |
| 08:33.41 | Argafal | vizzy: i sent one but it doesn't seem to appear there. |
| 08:33.54 | vizzy | Argafal, just wait a few minutes, it takes some time |
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| 08:34.22 | Argafal | vizzy: i did however NOT file the original bug, i'm adding information. i waited about 15 minutes, hence the delay of the mail itself should be over. hence the question whether there is greylisting/manual reviews. |
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| 08:35.01 | vizzy | Argafal, i did send mails to the tracker without problems, also did it the first time just a few days ago |
| 08:35.24 | vizzy | maybe the delay is 16 minutes, not 15 :) |
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| 08:35.44 | g00se_ | How can i underclock a Celeron R? |
| 08:36.15 | vizzy | g00se_, thinkwiki.org, they have an underclocking howto |
| 08:36.30 | vizzy | not only for thinkpads ;) |
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| 08:37.32 | g00se_ | vizzy: Thanks. I'll take a look |
| 08:37.38 | vizzy | erm: /root/kernel/linux-2.6.33.2/debian/linux-headers-2.6.33.2.t42p-8rt2/ ... wtf? the pwd is /root/kernel/linux-2.6.33.2-rt/ and linux is symlink to that |
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| 08:43.31 | gromgull | let me rephrase - previously gnome-volume-manager was responsible for auto-mounting |
| 08:43.38 | gromgull | I understand this is no longer the case? |
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| 08:46.26 | sohum | can I run an aptitude why in the context of an aptitude install? |
| 08:47.06 | sohum | i.e., "I've only asked for this one package, what's the chain of dependencies that's made you decide that I need this other package as well?" |
| 08:47.51 | vizzy | ok, solved linux source directory problem, i had a running mc in background .... ouch |
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| 08:50.49 | sohum | hm. weird, -t stable install package/testing worked. I suppose it depended on some things I'd forgotten to pin... |
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| 09:01.38 | asr | vizzy: there is now 12 responses to the bug. 11 with "test" in it. |
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| 09:02.29 | asr | gromgull: I have never been able to make this fuckin automount working with gnome. |
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| 09:02.44 | gromgull | asr: it worked before |
| 09:02.51 | gromgull | and it works on another computer also running unstable |
| 09:02.53 | asr | yes, I knom. |
| 09:03.21 | asr | I had automount for months in fedora core, then it stopped working. |
| 09:03.34 | asr | and a few gnome updates later, it works. |
| 09:03.46 | asr | and no good reason. |
| 09:04.10 | gromgull | it seems it's policykit related? If I go to "computer://" in nautilus and click on the device it says "not authorised" |
| 09:04.11 | asr | it is often a dependecies problem, it has to be heavily tested on integration. |
| 09:04.26 | asr | so, if you dont use "stable", it may not work. |
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| 09:05.27 | gromgull | oh well - back to mounting from commandline I guess |
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| 09:06.10 | Vicfred | hi |
| 09:06.58 | Vicfred | gcc can't compile code, it says stddef.h doesn't exist... |
| 09:07.26 | themill | !b-e Vicfred |
| 09:07.26 | dpkg | Vicfred: Sounds like you need to aptitude install build-essential. |
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| 09:10.06 | vizzy | asr, what bug? |
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| 09:10.12 | cerebro | hi, anyone knows how to determine what desktop manager is in use (kde or gnome) simply looking inside a file or something similar |
| 09:10.13 | Vicfred | I already installed it |
| 09:10.24 | asr | 10:32 Argafal> how does t |
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| 09:10.40 | Vicfred | but it doesn't compile |
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| 09:16.02 | bzed | cerebro: cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
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| 09:21.25 | cerebro | bzed: a lot of thanks, it works great and is just what i lookin for, may the force be with you xD |
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| 09:25.22 | Vicfred | http://pastebin.com/RmfwPEcH |
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| 09:29.31 | MariachiAC | Hello. i've installed Debian testing. However i always have t boot with the recovery entry. Can anyone help in solving this problem? Or.. perhaps direct me to where debian testing is the topic? |
| 09:30.17 | maligor | what happens if you boot normally? |
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| 09:31.41 | MariachiAC | maligor: The system hangs. I press enter on the entry to boot normally, but it does not boot. It seems like its going to load, but does not go anywhere. Keep in mind that I can't read any errors on the screen when booting. When i boot with the recovery mode I can read with my braille display that its started services fine. |
| 09:32.29 | MariachiAC | milobit: Then I'm able to log in. It says cleaning up temporary files, starts the services such as hal, cpufrequtils, etc... and lets me log in. |
| 09:32.46 | MariachiAC | milobit: So currently I'm booted with the recovery entry |
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| 09:33.45 | swathanthran | is there a way to find the package name to which a particular file belongs? the reverse finding of "dpkg -L package"?:) or to search in the files list of all packages or something |
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| 09:35.32 | maligor | MariachiAC, that's rather odd actually, I don't think hal/cpufrequtils should be started in recovery mode |
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| 09:37.02 | MariachiAC | milobit: Ok well how can I tell if I'm booted into the recovery mode? Shal I regenerate grub with update-grub and reboot? |
| 09:38.49 | swathanthran | aha!, may be i should search in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ :) |
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| 09:39.39 | maligor | MariachiAC, the recovery mode, as in single mode, should just give you a root password prompt |
| 09:39.59 | MariachiAC | milobit: It does. I press control-d to continue. |
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| 09:40.25 | maligor | MariachiAC, and you're mistargetting your alias :P |
| 09:40.30 | maligor | mine that is |
| 09:41.03 | maligor | MariachiAC, well, that's very odd, but without any logs, rather hard to say why |
| 09:41.05 | MariachiAC | maligor: Ahh I'm sorry. Well yes, I press control-d to continue |
| 09:41.17 | MariachiAC | maligor: Ok any logs I can lok at? |
| 09:41.54 | maligor | the most useful one is what it shows when it boots :/ |
| 09:42.15 | maligor | swathanthran, dpkg -S filename |
| 09:42.19 | feitingen | omg... i really hate networkmanager now |
| 09:42.43 | swathanthran | maligor: ops:) thanks:) |
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| 09:43.45 | MariachiAC | maligor: Ok. I'll get sited assistance then sometime later. |
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| 09:43.53 | MariachiAC | maligor: Thank you. |
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| 09:49.15 | man8 | hi , know anyone see any error for the xorg.conf, to have two graphics, one internal, the BIOS configured Omboard "to start first and best nvidia 500MB and one pci ATI 3D Rage II + for two monitors? thanks *---> http://pastebin.com/LYSarJyF |
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| 09:51.34 | feitingen | is there a way to blacklist certain packages? so that no matter if another package wants it as a dependancy, it will never be installed along with everything that depends on it? |
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| 09:52.54 | amee2k | i'm installing on a system with very small hard drive |
| 09:53.02 | rgrant | hi Continentals! i have an installer preseed question. i got hit with an unexpected apt-periodic update, and there's some interactive config-file-merge question jamming it. #1: shouldn't a debconf jam-up via cron just NEVER be allowed? #2: is there an apt preseed to definitively turn off periodic updates? |
| 09:53.15 | manixor | What is the diff btw -r and -R, on linux command? |
| 09:53.21 | amee2k | is it possible to prevent the installer from caching all the packages on the target drive? |
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| 09:54.21 | feitingen | amee2k: ugly solution: put a remote filesystem in /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 09:54.44 | amee2k | hmmm interresting suggestion |
| 09:54.47 | feitingen | s/in/on/ |
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| 09:55.03 | amee2k | i'll give that a try |
| 09:55.39 | rgrant | manixor: no standard. usually one or the other means recursive, but you have to check the manual to see which. the most common commands use both to mean recursive for people who guess wrong. |
| 09:55.44 | feitingen | i have this done permanently on some systems, it is absolutely unsupported and i am waiting for it to break, but i am saving a lot of space and bandwidth |
| 09:56.08 | amee2k | hehe yeah |
| 09:57.07 | amee2k | where during the install can i set up the remote fs? right after partitioning? |
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| 09:59.41 | rgrant | any debian installer preseed pros out there? |
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| 10:15.05 | ananthgs | Hi all. |
| 10:15.10 | ananthgs | in this below line |
| 10:15.11 | ananthgs | Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.32-trunk-686 |
| 10:15.18 | ananthgs | what does trunk signify? |
| 10:15.31 | ananthgs | is it a branch of GIT? |
| 10:15.45 | ananthgs | let me know |
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| 10:16.02 | petemc | !trunk |
| 10:16.02 | dpkg | [trunk] a term from version control systems such as <cvs>, <svn> and <git>. The "trunk" can often be thought of as a developer's playground, the stability (or otherwise) of the code varies from project to project. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trunk_(software) . Debian -trunk- kernel image/headers packages are obsolete and were removed from the archive ; /msg judd kernel --release squeeze ; see Debian bug #568160 and <kernel abi>. |
| 10:16.40 | ananthgs | thanks a ton ! :) |
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| 10:19.42 | ananthgs | and a 686 is for the architecture - as to 64 bit right? |
| 10:20.18 | petemc | if it was 64bit it would say -amd64 |
| 10:20.33 | ananthgs | ok |
| 10:20.41 | ananthgs | here the problem is |
| 10:20.50 | ananthgs | my laptop is a 64 bit one |
| 10:21.02 | ananthgs | and my debian is 32 bit version |
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| 10:21.08 | phorce1 | I've been digging through the depends and didn't note any deal-breakers. Can libgmime-2.4 from squeeze be installed on a lenny machine as-is? I don't see a backport so that means either it will install OK as-is or ot will break horribly and requires too much work to backport. |
| 10:21.36 | petemc | ananthgs: if you consider that to be a problem, which lots of people dont, then you should install the amd64 version of debian |
| 10:22.28 | ananthgs | i dont see a problem. |
| 10:22.38 | ananthgs | wanted to get my doubts clarified |
| 10:23.26 | Selveste1_ | hay, is there anybody there know way Debian doesn't provide layer7 and ipp2p packages to iptables in there repos.? |
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| 10:24.43 | junji | hello i've this problem when i restart bind9 :Stopping domain name service...: bindrndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused |
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| 10:30.34 | MaskRay | hi all, how to enable 'debian menu' in awesome(a wm) |
| 10:30.41 | Genk1 | hello |
| 10:30.42 | Genk1 | can someone tell me where I can find tor exist ip list database in the net ? |
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| 10:30.48 | Genk1 | plz |
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| 10:44.00 | EugenA | how can i install x2go on debian? http://www.x2go.org/index.php?id=7 |
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| 10:47.08 | amee2k | feitingen: ummm how do i stop the installer after formatting the partition and before copying the data from the CD? |
| 10:49.23 | feitingen | use expert mode ;) |
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| 10:50.31 | sep | EugenA, i belive there are deb's at http://x2go.obviously-nice.de/deb/ |
| 10:51.15 | dagny_ta1gart | hey guys, does flash work reliably in debian? |
| 10:51.19 | EugenA | i'm very new to debian.. i think i've already added it |
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| 10:51.40 | feitingen | amee2k: you can try to switch to another console and start a shell there |
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| 10:52.47 | EugenA | sep: http://pastebin.com/LiHdt2L7 |
| 10:53.37 | sep | dagny_ta1gart reliably and flash does not belong in the same sentence. it's also not included in official debian, but possible to install. read http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
| 10:54.09 | sep | EugenA, what's the problem ? |
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| 10:54.30 | amee2k | feitingen: thanks :) |
| 10:54.34 | amee2k | that worked |
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| 10:54.40 | dagny_ta1gart | sep: thanks - how does it perform for you? I'm just really annoyed with the performance on ubuntu and was thinking of switching |
| 10:55.01 | sep | dagny_ta1gart, i dont have flash installed. |
| 10:55.10 | EugenA | NO_PUBKEY C509840B96F89133 |
| 10:55.18 | dagny_ta1gart | sep: ok, thanks anyway |
| 10:55.22 | hugo_ | how do linux users update their iphone? |
| 10:55.48 | iceroot | hugo_: linux-users dont use an i-phone |
| 10:56.14 | hugo_ | android? |
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| 10:56.25 | feitingen | get an openmoko and put debian on it? ;) |
| 10:59.34 | hugo_ | feitingen: never heard of it |
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| 11:03.19 | feitingen | hugo_: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner |
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| 11:04.06 | feitingen | there is also a more powerful alternative:http://www.gizmoforyou.net/site/en/shop/gizmos/computing/flow.html (i want(to put debian on this)) |
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| 11:06.33 | hugo_ | can't imagine how debian works on mobile phone |
| 11:07.08 | Trewas | nokia n900 even runs a debian derivative by default |
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| 11:07.33 | feitingen | hugo_: quite nice actually :) |
| 11:08.47 | hugo_ | thinking about apps, it would be pretty hard for debian to compete with android or iphone |
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| 11:10.15 | ambuli | hi all, i have a question, could someone guide me. i have a binary .deb, how can i figure out which files containd depends files ? |
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| 11:10.58 | feitingen | hugo_: true, but i dont really know what apps i need which debian does not have and i cant make myself |
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| 11:12.45 | amee2k | feitingen: i managed to put the apt cache on a ram disk even |
| 11:12.56 | amee2k | now the install is like twice as fast lol |
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| 11:13.55 | hugo_ | okay then i'd better to have win or mac if i want to go with android/iphone |
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| 11:14.26 | amee2k | fuck. i'm still running out of space on /target :X |
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| 11:15.10 | amee2k | its configuring but i only have 6.3MB left :X |
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| 11:23.12 | hugo_ | do you guys have any laptop recommendations for running debian? |
| 11:23.43 | omes | most work great these days |
| 11:23.52 | omes | just check the specs and see if they're supported in linux |
| 11:24.25 | MeglaW | yeah, think twice before getting a touchscreen, its hard to get working propperly |
| 11:24.47 | hugo_ | touchscreen for laptop? no way |
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| 11:25.24 | omes | we have the ipadz for dat |
| 11:25.33 | MeglaW | hehe |
| 11:25.52 | MeglaW | i even have a 15 inch regular tft with touchscreen |
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| 11:26.09 | hugo_ | i'm thinking to get thinkpad |
| 11:26.21 | hugo_ | t series or x series |
| 11:26.48 | MeglaW | id spend the extra cash and get a toughbook of sorts |
| 11:26.50 | azeem | both are usually well supported |
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| 11:26.54 | MeglaW | of one kind or another |
| 11:27.00 | amee2k | is there something i can leave out of the base install to save disk space? |
| 11:27.00 | hugo_ | they are often said working great with linux |
| 11:28.41 | amee2k | i'm down to zero on /target before installing the kernel even |
| 11:28.58 | azeem | amee2k: how big is /target? |
| 11:29.26 | amee2k | 110M |
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| 11:29.38 | azeem | that's not enough for a regular install |
| 11:29.39 | riot | hi |
| 11:29.44 | azeem | try debootstrap or emdebian |
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| 11:30.15 | dhiry2k | Hello anyone knows debootstrap equivalent in fedora?? |
| 11:30.19 | riot | is there another way to download packages (with deps) than apt-get -d install? I'd like to specify a target dir or download them to ./ |
| 11:30.29 | amee2k | taken a look at emdebian but their suggestion of booting the regular cd -> advanced -> automated install -> enter www.endebian.org or something doesn't work |
| 11:30.36 | amee2k | i never get asked for anything |
| 11:30.51 | azeem | that's certainly not their only suggestion |
| 11:30.52 | amee2k | other than language keyb and network |
| 11:31.02 | azeem | amee2k: maybe buy a bigger harddrive then |
| 11:31.22 | dhiry2k | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:31.32 | azeem | dhiry2k: ask fedora |
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| 11:31.37 | iceroot | dhiry2k: #fedora |
| 11:31.42 | amee2k | i have another one but i can only connect it after the base install is done so i can free the CDROM connector |
| 11:31.49 | dhiry2k | iceroot ohhk thanks |
| 11:31.51 | dodder | Morning |
| 11:32.01 | MeglaW | do a pxe install |
| 11:32.29 | amee2k | MeglaW: how would that change the ammount of disk space required? |
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| 11:33.10 | bzrk | amee2k: why does it have to be debian? dont get me wrong i like debian but maybe a different distribution would be easier here |
| 11:33.10 | shylent | you dont need a cdrom then, I suppose |
| 11:33.35 | hugo_ | why do you run debian instead of popular ubuntu |
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| 11:33.51 | amee2k | bzrk: debian is my primary choice of linux and its the one i have the most exp with |
| 11:34.02 | amee2k | so i'd like to stick with either it or a derivative |
| 11:34.36 | amee2k | shylent: hmmm thats an interresting suggestion. if i can't get it to work i'll try |
| 11:34.59 | amee2k | does embedded debian have an install howto somewhere? |
| 11:35.04 | bzrk | amee2k: if that doesnt work out -> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/index.html |
| 11:35.05 | amee2k | i can't even find an iso for it |
| 11:35.16 | amee2k | bzrk: isn't that a live cd? |
| 11:35.33 | bzrk | amee2k: not necessarily, you can install it to disk |
| 11:35.46 | hugo_ | ubuntu is debian sid with qa |
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| 11:36.03 | amee2k | hmmm right. tried that once a couple years ago because they advertised it as "it'll turn into a regular deb install" |
| 11:36.10 | amee2k | well, imo it didn't. |
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| 11:36.47 | woodworks | "sid w/ qa" what's qa? |
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| 11:37.07 | hugo_ | quality assurance |
| 11:37.43 | amee2k | wait does emdebian support i386 at all? |
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| 11:38.45 | hugo_ | that's why ubuntu is more popular than debian |
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| 11:39.29 | amee2k | they only state support for arm, and that x86 is "expected" or will be "migrated" to |
| 11:39.30 | stockholm | hugo_: becaues debian bothers too much about it?! most people appreciate it, and so does ubuntu |
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| 11:39.50 | bzrk | stockholm: ever heard about not feeding the troll? |
| 11:40.04 | stockholm | bzrk: ah, i recall |
| 11:40.08 | bzrk | ^^ |
| 11:40.47 | stockholm | bzrk: i actually had not read much of scrollback |
| 11:41.13 | hugo_ | stockholm: what about? |
| 11:41.19 | bzrk | stockholm: well im glad i could save you some time :P |
| 11:41.36 | stockholm | bzrk: thanks! |
| 11:42.01 | feitingen | amee2k: emdebian support for i386 is in most cases not very useful, they seem to use uclibc which has some restrictions.. |
| 11:42.23 | amee2k | hmmm i see |
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| 12:35.51 | avar | What package in debian upgrades /etc/hosts? I just upgraded a few packages, including lsb (but apt-get source doesn't show /etc/hosts in it). And my /etc/hosts got modified without asking me through the standard "do you want to edit a changed config file" process. |
| 12:36.04 | avar | I'd like to find out if that's a bug, and if so: file it |
| 12:36.44 | avar | specifically, it added ipv6 support after I had removed it: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/42936 |
| 12:37.03 | omes | avar: it's supposed to ask you... |
| 12:37.12 | jordanm[titan] | !moving target |
| 12:37.12 | dpkg | Sure, testing might be shiner that stable, but are you prepared to be continually updating your system? Things that worked today will break tomorrow. Configuration file formats will change and you'll have to fold your changes in yet again. Testing is a moving target and if you'd rather work *with* your computer rather than working *on* your computer, you might not want that. See <testing security>. |
| 12:37.36 | avar | omes: It didn't just asked me about /etc/bitlbee/bitlbee.conf |
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| 12:38.30 | omes | avar: what did you do? |
| 12:38.37 | omes | avar: and post the logs please |
| 12:38.46 | jordanm[titan] | avar: likely the reasoning behind it is that it did not "install" a new config file. instead, it was likely generated by a --configure of a package |
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| 12:42.43 | omes | jordanm[titan]: still, that's a bug if it didn't ask wether to merge, overwrite, or leave as is.. |
| 12:43.34 | avar | Here's all the relenvant output I could gather: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/42937 |
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| 12:44.31 | jordanm[titan] | omes: well, with squeeze and later, ipv6 is built-in to the kernel... it is no longer a module. *and* the package is not "installing" the config file |
| 12:44.42 | avar | I'm certain it appeared after this upgrade. I keep /etc in git and check it after every upgrade, and according to /var/log/auth.log I'm the only one that's been upgrading |
| 12:44.54 | jordanm[titan] | I believe its questionable that will be considered a bug |
| 12:45.36 | jordanm[titan] | It should be documented in the changelog when squeeze become stable though |
| 12:46.05 | avar | This is the reason I'm removing it in the first place: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=570914 |
| 12:46.30 | avar | That package will break if $(host ::1) resolves. So I dropped IPv6 from the localhost interface and removed it from /etc/hosts |
| 12:46.57 | jordanm[titan] | avar: I seem to recall the actual solution being ipv6=off (or similar) to the kernel parameters |
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| 12:47.44 | avar | Yeah, no doubt my monkeypatch is unoptimal. Still I think altering changed config files without asking is a bug :) |
| 12:47.55 | avar | Anyway, dpkg -S /etc/hosts doesn't return anything. Should I just file against the base system? |
| 12:47.58 | abrotman | avar: what's the issue? |
| 12:47.59 | omes | jordanm[titan]: still, configuration files should not be changed without the user being noticed |
| 12:48.02 | abrotman | !java ipv6 |
| 12:48.02 | dpkg | As of netbase 4.38, net.ipv6.bindv6only=1 is set, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/10/msg00541.html . This currently breaks networking in Java for sun-java6-jdk (openjdk-6 is fixed as of version 6b18~pre1-3), see http://bugs.debian.org/560044 for solutions. In short, sed -i 's/net.ipv6.bindv6only = 1/net.ipv6.bindv6only = 0/' /etc/sysctl.d/bindv6only.conf ; invoke-rc.d procps restart. |
| 12:48.02 | abrotman | ? |
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| 12:48.27 | omes | avar: i agree |
| 12:48.29 | jordanm[titan] | abrotman: his moving target altered his /etc/hosts |
| 12:48.32 | avar | abrotman: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/42938 |
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| 12:49.07 | abrotman | avar: list of packages that were upgraded |
| 12:49.08 | abrotman | ? |
| 12:49.21 | avar | abrotman: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/42937 |
| 12:50.14 | abrotman | IIRC, that file is created by the netbase postinst |
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| 12:50.45 | avar | Yes it is, thanks |
| 12:50.49 | avar | debian/netbase.postinst specifically |
| 12:51.03 | abrotman | well, it would be /var/lib/dpkg/info/netbase.postinst |
| 12:51.10 | avar | http://paste.scsys.co.uk/42939 |
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| 12:51.16 | avar | you shall have IPv6 or else ! :) |
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| 12:51.29 | abrotman | heh |
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| 12:52.25 | avar | Is this maybe a policy violation? |
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| 12:52.52 | abrotman | avar: though that package wasn't upgraded |
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| 12:53.20 | abrotman | avar: if you "grep 'etc/hosts' /var/lib/dpkg/info/*" .. do you get anything ? |
| 12:54.03 | abrotman | besides netbase |
| 12:54.34 | abrotman | avar: and as for a violation of policy, unsure .. it's not nice, but it's also not listed as a conf file in any of those files |
| 12:54.45 | abrotman | or even a regular file |
| 12:54.48 | avar | No, (aside from /etc/hosts.{allow,deny}) |
| 12:55.17 | avar | Anyway. I think I have enough info for an accurate report. I'll let the maintainer sort out what he wants to do with it :) |
| 12:56.58 | abrotman | avar: but you still don't know which package altered the file ? |
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| 12:57.25 | abrotman | unless it wasn't any of those, and it was just the timing ... when was your netbase package last updated ? /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 12:57.48 | abrotman | oh, recently he says as abrotman notices that one of his testing machines is about to get the same thing |
| 12:58.06 | avar | Yes sorry. It was upgraded yesterday, I obviously didn't check /etc for changes after that upgrade |
| 12:58.23 | avar | upgraded to 4.41 on April 29 10:51 UTC |
| 12:58.34 | jordanm[titan] | that was yesterday |
| 12:58.36 | abrotman | avar: i wish you the best of luck getting the DD to admit that's a bug |
| 12:58.59 | avar | jordanm[titan]: Yup:) |
| 12:59.01 | jordanm[titan] | I aggree it will be a hard time |
| 12:59.11 | abrotman | jordanm[titan]: i meant because of who the DD is |
| 12:59.28 | jordanm[titan] | abrotman: yeah, I am aware. I have read some of his bug reports |
| 12:59.42 | abrotman | we should send in themill! |
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| 13:00.16 | themill | neatly sidesteps that one |
| 13:00.37 | abrotman | avar: you might want to check /usr/share/doc/netbase/ before sending that bug report |
| 13:00.57 | abrotman | avar: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=97201 |
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| 13:02.06 | avar | abrotman: Ah yes, related but sidestepped. I'd like to complain about /appending/, not clobbering :) |
| 13:02.38 | avar | in 4.11: * IPv6 entries will be always added to /etc/hosts from now on. |
| 13:02.57 | jordanm[titan] | they can argue that the appending is nescessary for the ipv6 switch |
| 13:03.20 | jordanm[titan] | which I would be inclined to aggree.. so long as its documented |
| 13:04.06 | cantido | isn't testing mostly switched to ipv6? |
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| 13:04.22 | cantido | has trouble with java stuff becuase of ipv6 |
| 13:04.32 | avar | cantido: database java stuff? |
| 13:04.41 | cantido | s/becuase/because/ |
| 13:04.49 | cantido | avar: anything that uses networking |
| 13:05.15 | cantido | avar: I.e. the Android devkit stuff can't connect to the simulator running on the same machine |
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| 13:06.26 | cantido | oh, eclipse cant connect to the update server etc unless you force the JVM to use the ipv4 stack |
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| 13:08.13 | Miles_Prower | ` |
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| 13:13.11 | mbruins | hello, i installed debian lenny. but i really would like to have the latest gtk-gnutella. what is the most 'clean' way to do this? |
| 13:14.01 | jordanm[titan] | !tell mbruins about ssb |
| 13:14.13 | sep | live without > backports.org >simple sid backport > build your own |
| 13:14.41 | avar | abrotman: Draft bug report, look good: http://gist.github.com/385171 ? |
| 13:14.45 | jordanm[titan] | mbruins: no need to ask in both channels |
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| 13:15.29 | jordanm[titan] | that doesn't look like a debian kernel |
| 13:15.57 | abrotman | avar: maybe suggest that there be a /etc/default/hosts that would have a conf option for IPv6="NO/YES" so that the local admin can determine and it can default to YES |
| 13:16.01 | gusnan | I am using asunder on Squeeze to rip audio CD's - every now and then I got the program completely locking up in the middle of ripping a CD - Does anyone else run into this? |
| 13:16.46 | cantido | gusnan: mm maybe check dmesg to see if there are any read errors |
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| 13:17.18 | abrotman | avar: i'm not really sure if that's a valid option or not |
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| 13:17.58 | abrotman | avar: you may also want to note that /etc/hosts is not listed in the netbase.list or netbase.conffiles |
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| 13:18.12 | abrotman | !tell pwnpizza about root |
| 13:19.00 | avar | abrotman: would those have resulted in dpkg -S finding them? |
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| 13:19.05 | abrotman | yes |
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| 13:20.16 | wzrdo | hi guys |
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| 13:20.37 | avar | abrotman: Thanks for all your help, added that & report sent |
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| 13:20.50 | pwnpizza | How can i run a daemon as another user? |
| 13:20.53 | pwnpizza | at startup |
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| 13:21.20 | cantido | pwnpizza: is it your own daemon or one from a package? |
| 13:21.40 | aguitel | i am in squeeze and when i making the safe-upgrade process it stop and say:http://pastebin.com/nLyh6eQU ,how continue the process ? |
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| 13:22.12 | pwnpizza | cantido, hm sshd as an exampel. |
| 13:22.15 | cantido | pwnpizza: if it's your own, you should use start-stop-daemon to handle that in your init script... if its a debian package there maybe some way to configure that |
| 13:22.16 | Argafal | aguitel: press q |
| 13:22.34 | Argafal | aguitel: make sure you read and understand the changelog messages before you do. |
| 13:22.49 | cantido | pwnpizza: I'm not sure if you can run sshd a non-root.. you can chroot after login etc though |
| 13:22.52 | aguitel | Argafal, ok |
| 13:23.11 | aguitel | Argafal, thanks |
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| 13:23.23 | pwnpizza | cantido, i need to know how i can change daemons to not run as root :S |
| 13:24.10 | cantido | pwnpizza: some stuff you won't be able to run as a user other than root, some applications have config options for changing their user during start up.. exim for example |
| 13:24.51 | pwnpizza | cantido, i know but it is possible? |
| 13:25.07 | pwnpizza | i just need to change a lot of permissions :S |
| 13:25.16 | cantido | pwnpizza: yes, start-stop-daemon can also do that stuff |
| 13:25.21 | avar | abrotman: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=579752 |
| 13:25.28 | cantido | pwnpizza: most things that can run as non-root already do in debian |
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| 13:29.47 | wzrdo | justanic: you could give http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ a try |
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| 13:30.26 | justanic | wzrdo: thanks looks like a nice utility to check |
| 13:30.45 | wzrdo | justanic: no problem |
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| 13:32.55 | eXeC001er | Hi |
| 13:33.25 | eXeC001er | How can i install gcc for i386 on my x64 ? |
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| 13:35.03 | cantoma | guys I just did an apt-get update and gives me "conflict/dependency resolution" the packages involved are libdns53 libdns64 libgeoip1 which says "libdns53 depends on libgeoip1 (>= 1.4.6.dfsg)". My libgeoip1 is 1.4.4.dfsg-3+lenny1. My question is "did I need these packages"?? |
| 13:35.46 | cantoma | i didn't do any change to my sources.list ... a few days ago was not giving this error in dependencies |
| 13:36.01 | wzrdo | try aptitude why <pkgname> |
| 13:36.14 | themill | dpkg: tell cantoma about bat |
| 13:36.30 | themill | cantoma: if you can pastebin the output of the commands that dpkg is asking for that would help |
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| 13:37.30 | themill | cantoma: lenny with bpo enabled? |
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| 13:37.41 | cantoma | wzrdo, it says for both of packages "Unable to find a reason to install ..." |
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| 13:37.50 | cantoma | themill, what is bpo? |
| 13:37.58 | themill | !bpo |
| 13:37.58 | dpkg | backports.org is a semi-official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://deb.li/bpoi . A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added: "aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update". <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents> <bpo list> <backports-users> |
| 13:38.04 | cantoma | themill, yes |
| 13:38.13 | cantoma | for my flashplayer-nonfree only |
| 13:38.23 | themill | cantoma: and some other things, it would seem. |
| 13:38.45 | cantoma | themill, so you think i should stop using backports? |
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| 13:38.58 | cantoma | themill, some people told me to use it if i want to have flash |
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| 13:39.19 | themill | cantoma: no, you don't need to stop using backports. But you do need to provide us with more information... |
| 13:39.30 | Damascene | hi, I want to ask about mlterm any one can help please? |
| 13:39.57 | cantoma | themill, so right now is only about libgeoip1. My version is 1.4.4.dfsg-3+lenny1. The required version is (>= 1.4.6.dfsg) |
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| 13:40.12 | Damascene | is it maintained in debian? |
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| 13:40.33 | themill | cantoma: no it's not only about geoip.... |
| 13:40.39 | cantoma | themill, the packages involved are libdns53 libdns64 |
| 13:40.48 | wzrdo | cantoma: try removing libgeoip1 then safe-upgrade again |
| 13:40.51 | cantoma | themill, do i need them? |
| 13:41.05 | themill | cantoma: how can I know without you providing the information I've asked for> |
| 13:41.12 | cantoma | i usually use dselect .. is it fine? |
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| 13:41.33 | cantoma | themill, what do you want? |
| 13:41.35 | themill | cantoma: I imagine aptitude would solve this trivially. |
| 13:41.41 | themill | dpkg: tell cantoma about bat |
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| 13:42.32 | avar | abrotman: closed already: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=579752 :) |
| 13:43.26 | cantoma | themill, ok i will give you a pastebin |
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| 13:43.35 | oliva | hi there ... I can hear the mic input but cannot record it ... what should I enable? |
| 13:44.01 | abrotman | avar: eh ? |
| 13:44.25 | abrotman | avar: i kind of figured that might happen .. oh well |
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| 13:46.09 | cantoma | themill, http://pastebin.com/yfVnWp5b |
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| 13:48.57 | themill | avar: you might like to point Md at policy §10.7.3 which states: "Configuration file handling must conform to the following behavior: local changes must be preserved during a package upgrade" (note that is refering to "configuration files" not specifically to conffiles, which /etc/hosts is not... so unless /etc/hosts is suddenly no longer a configuration file...) |
| 13:49.30 | themill | cantoma: seriously... that's absolutely nothing like what dpkg asked for. |
| 13:49.49 | cantoma | themill, how can i take logs from dselect? |
| 13:50.12 | themill | cantoma: even ignoring the dselect run, there were still quite a few other things that dpkg asked you to give us |
| 13:50.46 | cantoma | themill, ok let me follow the list |
| 13:51.02 | oliva | capture and capture1 are enabled and the input is set to the corret channel I have no pulseaudio. |
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| 13:53.09 | laumonier | how can i launch wine with the administrator right????? |
| 13:53.32 | avar | themill: Interesting. Want to reply to the bug or should I be a pawn in the small war against Md ?:) |
| 13:53.54 | cantoma | themill, http://paste.debian.net/71373/ |
| 13:53.59 | themill | avar: no war from this side... you need to pick battles you have some hope of winning. |
| 13:54.19 | avar | hehe |
| 13:55.18 | jordanm[titan] | laumonier: assuming you mean root, what version of debian are you running? |
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| 13:56.19 | avar | themill: Where's the "configuration files" v.s. "conffiles" nomanclature defined? |
| 13:56.30 | themill | cantoma: can you pastebin the output of "aptitude -s safe-upgrade" fo rme |
| 13:56.43 | themill | avar: /msg dpkg policy ; §10.7 |
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| 13:57.27 | tefen | in debian, how do i change NIC Port speed to 1000Mbs ? this is what i have right now.. 1000baseT/Full |
| 13:57.31 | oliva | any help for my mic problem= |
| 13:57.33 | oliva | ? |
| 13:57.36 | cantoma | themill, it says nothing will be upgraded |
| 13:57.44 | cantoma | 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded |
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| 13:58.35 | cantoma | themill, so its only dselect complaining |
| 13:58.48 | johnfg | hi guys |
| 13:58.58 | tefen | anyone help me? |
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| 14:00.04 | johnfg | I just got a static ip yesterday; first time in years. |
| 14:00.17 | themill | cantoma: sounds like another good reason not to use dselect. It sounds like it's not obeying pinning at all. (probably doesn't know anything about pinning) |
| 14:00.55 | johnfg | So, I wondered, because I still have a router, at 192.168.1.107, should I have eth0 in interfaces configured static and with the static ip address? |
| 14:00.58 | cantoma | themill, seems like a bug |
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| 14:02.11 | themill | cantoma: no. Tools like apt-get and aptitude exist for a reason. |
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| 14:03.49 | cantoma | themill, i will stop it using for while |
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| 14:06.11 | tefen | sigh.. no one can help me? |
| 14:06.15 | rgrant | hi is anyone here using preseed? |
| 14:06.38 | jordanm[titan] | johnfg: your question does not make much sense, try again, with more detail |
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| 14:09.44 | johnfg | jordanm[titan], OK, now, in my /etc/network/interfaces, I have these lines for eth0: |
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| 14:10.25 | johnfg | 1: allow-hotplug eth0. 2: auto eth0. 3: iface eth0 inet dhcp. |
| 14:10.26 | avar | themill: It also looks like his regex is broken he's doing: grep -qE "^::1[[:space:]]" /etc/hosts |
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| 14:10.52 | avar | But according to man 5 hosts the tokens are seperated by whitespace and can be padded so "\t::1 ipv6-localhost" is a valid line |
| 14:10.53 | rgrant | tefen: as driver: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-4-Manual/ref-guide/s1-networkscripts-interfaces.html OR try thinking about it as "QoS", and then HFSC can help. http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/QoS+Linux+with+HFSC |
| 14:11.07 | avar | so if an admin would indent /etc/hosts (silly) they'd end up with duplicate content in it. |
| 14:12.09 | johnfg | Of course, I don't have the numbers, but should I change it to: 1: iface eth0 inet static. 2: address <my ip address>. 3: netmask 255.255.255.0. ? |
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| 14:12.42 | johnfg | jordanm[titan], Did the question make more sense now? |
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| 14:13.31 | jordanm[titan] | johnfg: is this debian box your network gateway? |
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| 14:17.16 | themill | avar: there has been some interesting discussion about this amongst some of the great gorillas and the conclusion is that Md is wrong in his application of policy but that it's probably too much of a corner case for anyone to really be bothered about it. |
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| 14:19.32 | simonrvn | Md is often wrong ;p |
| 14:19.45 | _pepo_ | hi friends |
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| 14:20.00 | drw | How I can detect a strange file (instrusion) |
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| 14:20.34 | simonrvn | !chkrootkit |
| 14:20.34 | dpkg | chrootkit is a security scanner, used to determine if the local system is infected with a <rootkit>. To exclude reporting known false positives (http://www.chkrootkit.org/faq/#8), use the -e option. http://www.chkrootkit.org/ See also <system compromise recovery>. |
| 14:20.37 | jordanm[titan] | drw: rkhunter? |
| 14:20.40 | simonrvn | !tiger |
| 14:20.40 | dpkg | tiger is, like, a set of bourne shell scripts, C programs and data files which are used to perform a security audit of UNIX systems. |
| 14:20.45 | rgrant | hey does anyone use preseed? i have an apt-config question, where i want to turn off auto-update. |
| 14:20.52 | simonrvn | !rkhunter |
| 14:20.52 | dpkg | from memory, rkhunter is Rootkit Hunter a Unix-based tool that scans for rootkits, backdoors and local exploits. It does this by comparing MD5 hash of important files with known good ones in online database, searching for default directories (of rootkits), wrong permissions, hidden files, suspicious strings in kernel modules, and special tests for Linux and FreeBSD. |
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| 14:21.22 | rgrant | i'm wondering if there's a d-i option for it, or if i need to go munch config files in late_command |
| 14:21.36 | simonrvn | *sigh* ask and run... |
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| 14:22.58 | drw | rkhunter work with trojan horse too ? |
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| 14:27.06 | DexterF | hi |
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| 14:27.41 | DexterF | does a dual core Atom (N330) outperf an AthlonXP@2GHz? |
| 14:28.11 | abrotman | DexterF: ##hardware |
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| 14:28.20 | CWFEU | what does this command mean in aptitude? "dpkg --purge packages" |
| 14:28.38 | DexterF | abrotman: ah :) |
| 14:28.52 | abrotman | CWFEU: man dpkg ? |
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| 14:29.13 | CWFEU | abrotman: i just wnat to know if that means i'll lose all the packages installed? |
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| 14:29.30 | abrotman | CWFEU: read the man page |
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| 14:30.34 | mdik | hi. this is more of an alsa question, but i have a strange crackling sound while playing somethin in mplayer, though i can replicate that sound, when calling up alsamixer and muting/unmuting the lineout |
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| 14:31.24 | mdik | any ideas how i can turn it off _without_ rebooting the whole machine? maybe reloading some modules or similar? |
| 14:32.40 | CWFEU | abrotman: i know what purge means. i don't see anything for "packages" in the man file |
| 14:32.43 | CWFEU | is there a way to search? |
| 14:32.58 | fefo | mdik: ctrl+alt+print-screen+o |
| 14:33.04 | fefo | or such a combination |
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| 14:33.11 | abrotman | CWFEU: uhm .. it means substitute "packages" for a list of packages oyu want to purge |
| 14:33.18 | fefo | if you have console access |
| 14:33.30 | mdik | fefo, what's that? |
| 14:34.07 | fefo | <Alt><SysRq><o> Shut the system off (if configured and supported). |
| 14:34.10 | avar | abrotman, themill: replied again: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=579752 |
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| 14:34.17 | fefo | it is directly turning off |
| 14:34.21 | fefo | in kernel space |
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| 14:34.25 | fefo | so it wont shut down |
| 14:34.28 | abrotman | fefo: uhm, that's not what he's asking ? |
| 14:34.35 | fefo | it will poweroff like pluging out cable |
| 14:34.39 | mdik | the sound system? |
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| 14:35.03 | CWFEU | abrotman: so that's normal when i'm trying to get rid of old packages and i edited my /etc/apt/sources.list file to download unstable packages in lenny? |
| 14:35.03 | fefo | opla ;) i have read only this 16:31:24 < mdik> any ideas how i can turn it off _without_ rebooting the whole machine? maybe reloading some modules or similar? |
| 14:35.06 | fefo | ;))) |
| 14:35.11 | CWFEU | i don't want to remove all packages by mistake, heh |
| 14:35.28 | fefo | mdik: /etc/init.d/alsa reload ? |
| 14:35.30 | fefo | restart |
| 14:35.37 | mdik | good that i asked... |
| 14:35.40 | fefo | or some similiar shit |
| 14:35.43 | fefo | ;) |
| 14:35.46 | fefo | or via |
| 14:35.49 | abrotman | CWFEU: a) don't mix lenny and sid b) it still may not work as expected |
| 14:35.50 | fefo | alsaconf |
| 14:35.54 | abrotman | fefo: less enter key |
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| 14:36.16 | mdik | there's no alsa in my init.d, but alsa-utils didn*t work |
| 14:36.19 | CWFEU | abrotman: but i don't want such an old version of mapserver and in #mapserver, they recommend this |
| 14:36.21 | zleap | yeah i managed to get a mix of sid, lenny, and etch once, kinda caused real issues |
| 14:36.25 | CWFEU | not installing from source unless a dev |
| 14:36.33 | abrotman | CWFEU: that's fine .. ask them how fix your fucked up computer |
| 14:37.12 | CWFEU | hmm... how can i fuck up my server this way? |
| 14:37.20 | johnfg | jordanm[titan], Sorry, out doing chores. Yes, this is my gateway. |
| 14:37.23 | abrotman | CWFEU: mixing lenny and testing/unstable almost always leads to crying |
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| 14:37.30 | johnfg | Can we watch the language please? |
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| 14:37.41 | CWFEU | hmm, well, i've done it for other packages already -- am i screwed? (tomcat is an example) |
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| 14:37.57 | CWFEU | http://debian.gfoss.it/README - that's what i'm doing to install mapserver |
| 14:38.10 | abrotman | CWFEU: it's your system .. you can do whatever you want .. i'm just telling you that it usually leads to a shit storm .. crying .. breakage .. |
| 14:38.15 | zleap | abrotman, i agree, you can get away with it, but it catches up with you, |
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| 14:39.04 | abrotman | CWFEU: almost no regular in this channel would ever tell you to do what you're trying to do .. they would first recommend that you try to backport the package yourself instead of installing testing/unstable packages directly onto stable |
| 14:39.05 | \amethyst | CWFEU: the instructions there don't say to install sid/squeeze packages in lenny |
| 14:39.15 | mdik | gonna try alsa-tools... whatever it is... |
| 14:39.20 | \amethyst | CWFEU: it says to backport them by rebuilding from source |
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| 14:39.57 | \amethyst | CWFEU: if you don't do that, those packages' dependencies will be from squeeze, and you'll have to install a lot more than just those nine packages |
| 14:40.01 | CWFEU | oh, so those instructions aren't telling me to install unstable items? oops, i must have the terminology wrong |
| 14:40.13 | CWFEU | \amethyst: so just follow those instructions and i should be fine? |
| 14:40.14 | johnfg | jordanm[titan], So what do you think about that interfaces file? Make a change? |
| 14:40.16 | \amethyst | CWFEU: "Just download the sources from Debian Squeeze and build the package |
| 14:40.16 | \amethyst | on Debian Lenny with dpkg-buildpackage. |
| 14:40.36 | CWFEU | what does "backport" mean? |
| 14:40.39 | CWFEU | just that? |
| 14:40.50 | \amethyst | CWFEU: to recompile for an older version of Debian |
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| 14:40.55 | \amethyst | !ssb |
| 14:40.55 | dpkg | First: See if the package has already been backported. Ask me about <backports>. If it hasn't, 1) Add ONLY a "deb-src ..." line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get install build-essential; apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. If you are just wanting to change the compilation options, ask me about <package recompile>, or see <uupdate> if sid is too old |
| 14:41.12 | abrotman | avar: decent response .. hopefully you get a response back |
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| 14:41.53 | \amethyst | CWFEU: you'd follow instructions kind of like those, except your deb-src line would be for squeeze rather than sid |
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| 14:43.25 | CWFEU | okay, i'll follow this instructions to the T |
| 14:43.25 | sdk_ | Heyas all.. having a tough time with this.. we need a junior SQL developer in Philadelphia. Basically a report writer for Oracle. If anyone knows anyone, send an email to circfile@gmail.com needs to be soon, time is of the essence. |
| 14:43.27 | CWFEU | :) |
| 14:43.27 | CWFEU | thanks :) |
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| 14:44.10 | themill | glares at chanserv |
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| 14:44.43 | simonrvn | \o/ |
| 14:44.56 | themill | CWFEU: dealing with the ruby build-deps will be a challenge. "ssb" isn't quite as simple as dpkg makes out |
| 14:44.57 | abrotman | want me to uh .. just go beat him up ? |
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| 14:45.06 | themill | abrotman: yeah why not |
| 14:45.19 | CWFEU | themill: well, aren't these instructions for doing backports? debian.gfoss.it/README |
| 14:45.20 | CWFEU | ? |
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| 14:48.14 | \amethyst | TheOnly: what of the ruby build-depends is a problem? everything looks satisfiable in lenny |
| 14:48.17 | \amethyst | oop |
| 14:48.25 | \amethyst | themill: what of the ruby1.9.1 build-depends is a problem? everything looks satisfiable in lenny |
| 14:48.49 | CWFEU | where do you download squeeze sources so i can build the package on lenny with dpkg-buildpackage |
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| 14:49.23 | tarzeau | CWFEU: packages.debian.org/PKG then dget the .dsc link |
| 14:49.24 | *** mode/#debian [-b *!*@129.25.27.163] by themill |
| 14:49.28 | *** mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill |
| 14:49.35 | jordanm[titan] | CWFEU: the same mirror you get lenny source package sfrom |
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| 14:49.57 | CWFEU | !dget |
| 14:49.58 | CWFEU | tarzeau: what is dget? |
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| 14:50.12 | sdk_ | My apologies all.. really bad form on my part. 'nuff said. |
| 14:50.15 | tarzeau | CWFEU: dget (1) - - Download Debian source and binary packages |
| 14:50.42 | CWFEU | so don't use backports.org? |
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| 14:51.21 | grul | as bra!!!!!! |
| 14:51.39 | themill | \amethyst: the package b-depends on ruby 1.9.1 which isn't in lenny. |
| 14:51.50 | abrotman | grul: do you need help? |
| 14:52.18 | \amethyst | themill: ruby1.9.1 was one of the packages they listed as needing to be backported |
| 14:52.36 | \amethyst | themill: and the build-depends of ruby1.9.1 itself don't look bad |
| 14:52.39 | grul | abrotman, not really, no. sorry about that |
| 14:52.51 | CWFEU | so when going through packages.debian.org i need to pick "lenny-backports (science): Cartographic projection filter and library (transitional package) " that is, the backports version and not squeeze testing, right, to use backports? |
| 14:52.59 | CWFEU | right? |
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| 14:53.51 | themill | \amethyst: yes, my point was just that it's not a "simple" sid backport. I also don't know what problems backporting ruby 1.9.1 would cause, given 1.9.0 is in lenny already. (they're clearly incompatible and probably not co-installable) |
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| 14:54.40 | jordanm[titan] | ruby does have its own package management system. Not sure how badly it conflicts with apt |
| 14:54.48 | abrotman | themill: do it again ? |
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| 14:56.42 | CWFEU | i just got dget command not found, i ran aptitude install dget and nothing installed. what package do i need? |
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| 14:57.28 | sernin | CWFEU: devscripts |
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| 14:58.47 | CWFEU | thx |
| 14:58.59 | CWFEU | is it just me or is debian.org really slow right now? |
| 14:59.22 | petemc | its just you |
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| 14:59.40 | abchirk | here it is slow too |
| 14:59.56 | \amethyst | packages.debian.org is being slow for me too |
| 15:00.07 | abchirk | CWFEU, ipv6? |
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| 15:00.24 | CWFEU | abchirk: not sure, on a school network |
| 15:00.51 | petemc | the search facility of pdo is slow for me also |
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| 15:00.57 | abchirk | mh well, I have a similar problem, I have to remove one inet6 address from my eth0... then it works perfect |
| 15:00.59 | CWFEU | there, now it is going |
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| 15:01.08 | _pepo_ | hi friends |
| 15:01.15 | CWFEU | earlier i was downloading at 126mb/s |
| 15:01.42 | _pepo_ | How do I know the real phisical size of my hard disk? Is there some command to give me that information? |
| 15:01.51 | CWFEU | df -h? |
| 15:02.06 | _pepo_ | no: df -h is about partitions created |
| 15:02.14 | Argafal | fdisk -l <device> |
| 15:02.49 | Argafal | Disk /dev/sda: 60.0 GB, 60011642880 bytes |
| 15:02.58 | petemc | Disk /dev/sda: 499.9 GB, 499999834112 bytes |
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| 15:05.44 | _pepo_ | thanks... fdisk -l is the way |
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| 15:06.01 | CWFEU | once you've done dget to the .dsc link, does that mean it is installed or do i still need to run aptitude install package_name |
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| 15:06.52 | jordanm[titan] | CWFEU: you still need to build the package before it is available for installation |
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| 15:07.20 | jordanm[titan] | CWFEU: if you did not use the -u option for wget, you need to first upack the source package with dpkg-source -x <package> before building it |
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| 15:07.29 | jordanm[titan] | s/wget/dget/ |
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| 15:11.55 | phorce1 | I've been digging through the depends and didn't note any deal-breakers. Can libgmime-2.4 from squeeze be installed on a lenny machine as-is? I don't see a backport so that means either it will install OK as-is or ot will break horribly and requires too much work to backport. |
| 15:12.24 | CWFEU | jordanm[titan]: then do aptitude install package_name? |
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| 15:15.12 | _pepo_ | now, please |
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| 15:15.36 | echosystm | is debian freezed yet? |
| 15:16.08 | jhutchins_lt | echosystm: Yes, lenny is stable and updated. |
| 15:16.15 | echosystm | no i mean |
| 15:16.34 | simonrvn | 'frozen' |
| 15:16.39 | echosystm | what stage is the next release in? |
| 15:16.46 | echosystm | have the packages been frozen yet? |
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| 19:58.53 | karsten | kevin01123: I've just told you about all I know w/o reading manuals myself. The CUPS docs are good. |
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| 20:00.28 | kevin01123 | karsten: It would seem that I would have to compile the gutenprint drivers. I've looked at the Open Printing site, and the PPD is included with the latest gutenprint. I came here wondering if anyone's gone through a similar experience, and to see if there are any gotchas. |
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| 20:00.54 | near | do i need to configure xorg again ? |
| 20:01.30 | BlackFate | near: no need for drivers if you have intel |
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| 20:01.42 | BlackFate | near: run this glxinfo | grep render |
| 20:01.45 | karsten | kevin01123: Last time I had to do anything like this was a few years back. Follwed the instructions for uploading the PPD through http://localhost:631/ |
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| 20:02.00 | karsten | kevin01123: As I said: I've told you all I recall. |
| 20:02.11 | kevin01123 | karsten: Alright, thank you for your help. |
| 20:02.21 | karsten | kevin01123: NP |
| 20:02.45 | karsten | near: Intel GPUs are very well supprted. |
| 20:03.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | !tell near -about intel-gfx |
| 20:03.07 | near | i cant find the glxinfo application |
| 20:03.18 | karsten | !tell near about install |
| 20:03.34 | karsten | !tell near about installit |
| 20:03.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | check if the chipset is really supported by that driver |
| 20:03.39 | karsten | is rusty on his factoids. |
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| 20:03.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | tells karsten about guessing factoid names |
| 20:05.01 | near | near@Near:/etc/X11$ glxinfo | grep render |
| 20:05.01 | near | direct rendering: Yes |
| 20:05.01 | near | OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) G45/G43 4.1.3002 |
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| 20:05.12 | karsten | CutMeOwnThroat: I usually check 'em first ;-) |
| 20:05.46 | near | so any ideas? |
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| 20:09.56 | near | !xrandr |
| 20:09.56 | dpkg | somebody said xrandr was a command-line interface to the <RandR> extension; used to set the screen size, orientation and/or reflection. http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 |
| 20:10.04 | near | !dual monitors |
| 20:10.04 | dpkg | For a wide desktop over multiple monitors ("xinerama"), you can either configure your layout in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or, from lenny onwards, with xrandr. See http://www.jejik.com/articles/2008/10/setting_up_dual_monitors_system-wide_with_xrandr_on_debian_lenny/, http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12, http://thinkwiki.org/Xorg_RandR_1.2. Or ask me about <xrandr>. |
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| 20:16.27 | near | anyone knows why would xrandr not recongize my monitor? |
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| 20:18.33 | karsten | near: They had an embarrassing relationship in the past and are pretending not to know one another. |
| 20:19.18 | karsten | confesses that mutltiple displays in recent years Has Just Worked[tm], and that HJW[tm] makes you stupid by not forcing you to solve problems. |
| 20:20.19 | near | ... |
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| 20:21.12 | abrotman | karsten: welcome to the future. |
| 20:21.28 | abrotman | near: is it an old monitor? is there some device between the cable and your video card? |
| 20:21.35 | near | new monitor |
| 20:21.39 | near | one vga the other one dvi |
| 20:21.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | Hazel Joyce Wiley? |
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| 20:22.17 | near | xorg has only info for one screen |
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| 20:24.18 | jaggz- | any of you at a university? I'm trying to access a journal article but am not a univ. student |
| 20:24.57 | abrotman | jaggz-: try #defocus |
| 20:25.03 | twobitsprite | hmm... has the way grub is configured changed significantly since I last messed with it, or am I just goinr crazy? |
| 20:25.12 | twobitsprite | I don't see a /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 20:25.28 | twobitsprite | (I'm running squeeze) |
| 20:25.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | you're just going crazy |
| 20:25.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | !grub2 |
| 20:25.55 | dpkg | [grub2] GNU GRUB 2 is the successor to GRUB Legacy (GNU GRUB version 0.9x). In development, little documentation at present. Packaged as grub-pc (PC/BIOS version) and grub-ieee1275 (OpenFirmware version). http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-2.en.html. Command list comparison: http://grub.enbug.org/CommandList . See also http://wiki.debian.org/GrubTransition , <grub2 squeeze>, <grub2 config>. #grub on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 20:26.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | hmpf |
| 20:26.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, /msg dpkg grub2 squeeze and /msg dpkg grub2 config |
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| 20:27.53 | twobitsprite | yeah, I'm chasing those now, thanks |
| 20:28.04 | twobitsprite | but they still don't seem to be much help |
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| 20:32.06 | Erick | hi |
| 20:32.27 | Erick | im trying to upgrade my debian lenny 5 to squeeze |
| 20:32.32 | Erick | but i got an error |
| 20:32.34 | twobitsprite | hmm... I guess the bigger question is, why didn't installing xen automatically add a grub menu item? |
| 20:33.31 | Erick | its a udev problem |
| 20:33.32 | Erick | Since release 150, udev requires that support for the CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED |
| 20:34.01 | Erick | my kernel is 2.6.33.2 |
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| 20:35.02 | Erick | could anybody helpme? |
| 20:35.08 | adb | Erick, ask in #ubuntu |
| 20:35.25 | Erick | Why, my distro is debian |
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| 20:36.20 | adb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:38.15 | Erick | well, i downloaded that kernel from kernel.org |
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| 20:42.55 | macrobat | i can't eject /dev/sr0 anymore. the button on the device doesn't work either. i edited /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules http://paste.debian.net/71447/ and did udevadm trigger |
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| 20:46.29 | yondering | howdy.. having a little trouble setting up vnc on a headless box installed with Lenny.. fishing for suggestions. anybody have a howto link? not having much luck with google.. |
| 20:46.53 | macrobat | i forgot to mention, /dev/cdrom and /dev/cdrom are links to /dev/sr0 |
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| 20:54.38 | macrobat | Erick: isn't CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED disabled in your running kernel or in the kernel you install for squeeze? |
| 20:54.58 | macrobat | as it should be |
| 20:55.26 | Erick | im checking... :( |
| 20:55.51 | Erick | and reading about that problem |
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| 20:56.46 | macrobat | grep for it in your kernel config :) |
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| 20:57.20 | Erick | k macrobat xP |
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| 20:57.40 | drw | someone have a nice tutorial for security with firewalls and IDS ? |
| 20:58.03 | Erick | CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED=y |
| 20:58.04 | Erick | CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2=y |
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| 21:01.14 | macrobat | Erick: maybe you have to conf and recompile your kernel, then |
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| 21:01.56 | macrobat | or install the debian squeeze kernel and boot it |
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| 21:02.53 | Erick | that's what im thinking. thx macrobat |
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| 21:08.34 | twobitsprite | gahhhh.... I can't get xen to boot with grub2 and the documentation sucks |
| 21:09.10 | macrobat | twobitsprite: yes, try in #grub |
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| 21:10.41 | macrobat | twobitsprite: what happens if you run update-grub (or what its is called now)? |
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| 21:11.42 | twobitsprite | macrobat: yeah, I ran that... |
| 21:12.07 | twobitsprite | the entry shows up in the boot list, but when I select it it says it doesn't like the "kernel" command |
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| 21:13.35 | macrobat | if you read http://grub.enbug.org/CommandList you see it is called "linux" now |
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| 21:14.04 | innociv | What is the equivalent of telnet? I need to do http://postmaster.aol.com/cgi-bin/plugh/telnet.pl :/ |
| 21:14.33 | qwd | I just ran rkhunter and got warnings for: Checking for possible rootkit string AND Checking for hidden files and directories. Could this be anything? |
| 21:14.35 | twobitsprite | macrobat: but its not linux :P |
| 21:14.38 | twobitsprite | (I'll try it |
| 21:15.44 | macrobat | twobitsprite: there are other commands as well. read up on grub2 syntax :) |
| 21:15.56 | Tramp | innociv: telnet/netcat/socat |
| 21:17.36 | Tramp | innociv: though I don't understand why you ask for an "equivalent" |
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| 21:19.50 | innociv | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:20.00 | AimHere | Haha |
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| 21:20.30 | AimHere | I feel old now. |
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| 21:20.55 | AimHere | telnet comes as standard as pretty much anything Unixoid |
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| 21:22.41 | innociv | http://postmaster.aol.com/cgi-bin/plugh/dns.pl what about this? dnsutils instead? |
| 21:22.50 | innociv | aimhere, my debian didn't. I guess it had an equivalent though |
| 21:23.28 | AimHere | It'd just have been an apt-get away at most |
| 21:23.38 | AimHere | Ditto nslookup |
| 21:24.28 | innociv | nslookup doesn't exist |
| 21:24.35 | AimHere | apt-cache/aptitude search <foo> is your friend |
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| 21:25.12 | adb | innociv, apt-cache show dnsutils |
| 21:26.13 | adb | innociv, /msg dpkg as |
| 21:26.37 | echar | I tried to boot from a freeBSD flash memory,now when my installed testing debian is booting I have error that my kernel imag is read-only, I checked that all of my files chaned to read-oly. How can I repair it ? |
| 21:27.27 | twobitsprite | macrobat: looks like the multiboot command works |
| 21:27.35 | twobitsprite | (kind of... it gets further) |
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| 21:27.59 | macrobat | my system time goes backwards. 2 hours at a time. "date" has 07:25 instead of 23:25 i guess "udevadm trigger" does it. do i just use "date -s"? |
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| 21:28.09 | macrobat | ^5 twobitsprite |
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| 21:28.32 | twobitsprite | :) |
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| 21:29.18 | jonrafkind | hi, I'm trying to install debian in a VM using qemu-system-arm by following this guide: http://www.aurel32.net/info/debian_arm_qemu.php. When I get to the point in the installer where I have to download installer components I always get an error, 'installer failed to download a file from the mirror' |
| 21:29.39 | Kano | hi, did somebody try to build a live image for lenny with security enabled? that fails for me currently |
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| 21:30.25 | twobitsprite | jonrafkind: alt-f2 and see if you can ping the mirror |
| 21:30.35 | innociv | says nslookup command not found when I try that after installing dnsutils |
| 21:30.54 | adb | innociv, as root ? |
| 21:31.03 | jonrafkind | yes I can ping the mirror |
| 21:31.04 | innociv | sudo nslookup yes |
| 21:31.30 | jonrafkind | the installer thing does get some file and lets me pick stable, unstable, or testing. i select stable adn then it fails |
| 21:31.35 | twobitsprite | does it resolve to the right IP? (I wonder if qemu is responding to the ping...) |
| 21:31.56 | jonrafkind | well I can do 'wget http://www.google.com' and that works, from inside the vm |
| 21:32.10 | twobitsprite | hmm |
| 21:32.33 | jonrafkind | i can see all the file listings from the mirror in /tmp/net-blah-blah |
| 21:32.41 | jonrafkind | so its definately getting stuff |
| 21:33.14 | twobitsprite | hmm |
| 21:33.52 | twobitsprite | which tty does it log messages to again? check the other vttys, one of them should have a lot of logging |
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| 21:36.17 | jonrafkind | ok i can read stuff from /var/log/syslog. seems that gpgv is throwing errors |
| 21:36.27 | jonrafkind | public key not found |
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| 21:37.52 | jonrafkind | how can I make gpgv happy? |
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| 21:39.22 | jonrafkind | internet forums suggest just moving gpgv out of the way |
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| 21:40.58 | echar | I tried to boot from a freeBSD flash memory,now when my installed testing debian is booting up I have error that my filesyatem imag is read-only. How can I repair it ? |
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| 21:57.14 | karsten | jonrafkind: whose public key? |
| 21:57.36 | karsten | jonrafkind: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys <key_id> |
| 21:57.50 | karsten | jonrafkind: ... is the general solution. For Debian Developer keys, install the keyring. |
| 21:59.08 | jonrafkind | karsten, so thats required to run the debian installer? |
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| 22:07.30 | adb | !key |
| 22:07.30 | dpkg | Install the latest debian-archive-keyring package to get the latest GPG key used to sign the Debian archive. |
| 22:08.32 | simonrvn | jonrafkind: no |
| 22:08.41 | jonrafkind | so the installer is inherintely broken? |
| 22:08.46 | simonrvn | no |
| 22:08.51 | jonrafkind | ok. great |
| 22:09.02 | jonrafkind | i see that i live in an alternate universe. ill try to fix that |
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| 22:12.13 | themill | jonrafkind: is the date and time right on the machine? |
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| 22:18.40 | jonrafkind | themill, how do I find the date on the system? I don't have /bin/date or anything |
| 22:18.53 | themill | and yet you have wget? |
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| 22:19.15 | jonrafkind | yes |
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| 22:20.01 | goose | Is there some way I can use my server as an IRC proxy? Not necessarily a BNC or anything, just use my server to hide my real hose when using IRC |
| 22:20.13 | themill | jonrafkind: I presume you're in busybox atm. It has a builtin "date" too |
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| 22:20.32 | frankS2 | goose: irssi-proxy, ssh tunnel, vpn, netcat tunnel |
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| 22:20.33 | frankS2 | w/e |
| 22:20.35 | jonrafkind | $ date, command not found |
| 22:20.50 | jonrafkind | i dont think its busybox |
| 22:21.07 | jonrafkind | oh wait, /bin/busybox |
| 22:21.35 | jonrafkind | busybox lists all the commands it has, date is not one of them, but wget is |
| 22:21.41 | Vasistha | jonrafkind: the presence or lack of /bin/date isn't going to tell you anything about what shell you're using |
| 22:21.44 | themill | jonrafkind: "/bin/busybox date" should work |
| 22:21.58 | jonrafkind | themill, tried that, didnt work |
| 22:22.02 | themill | :( |
| 22:22.08 | jonrafkind | ok i did 'touch /tmp/x; ls -l /tmp/x' |
| 22:22.10 | jonrafkind | it says april 30th |
| 22:22.15 | themill | right year? |
| 22:22.26 | jonrafkind | how do I get the year, it just says 'apr 30' |
| 22:23.04 | jonrafkind | apr 30 22:20 |
| 22:23.09 | themill | stat /tmp/x |
| 22:23.21 | jonrafkind | yea it must be the current year because ls -l /bin; shows jan 1 1970 for some files |
| 22:23.27 | jonrafkind | stat not found |
| 22:24.59 | themill | jonrafkind: ls --full-time |
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| 22:25.16 | themill | this is probably a wild goose chase, but date errors give gpgv errors... |
| 22:25.21 | jonrafkind | unrecognized option |
| 22:25.29 | jonrafkind | im pretty sure the date on the system is right |
| 22:26.11 | jonrafkind | ok actually it would only not list the year if the file had the same year as the system time, but thats no indiciation of what the system year actually is.. |
| 22:26.42 | themill | busybox can have hwclock too |
| 22:27.06 | jonrafkind | applet not found |
| 22:27.51 | jonrafkind | hm, does wget send the current time in the headers? |
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| 22:30.06 | irong | in gimp how can i undo the last note/bullet? |
| 22:30.14 | irong | in magnetic lasso |
| 22:31.09 | Vasistha | irong: #gimp might know |
| 22:33.17 | jonrafkind | themill, ok I verified the date is right. cat /proc/stat, check btime. in ruby I did irb(main):001:0> Time.at(1272665634) |
| 22:33.17 | jonrafkind | => Fri Apr 30 16:13:54 -0600 2010 |
| 22:33.42 | themill | heh... that'll do. |
| 22:33.56 | themill | jonrafkind: as I said, wild goose chase. |
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| 22:34.27 | goose | hi, I'm goose |
| 22:34.32 | goose | stop chasing me |
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| 22:35.02 | Vasistha | goose: are you wild? |
| 22:35.04 | Vasistha | sorry. |
| 22:35.09 | themill | chases after goose with a cleaver and a roasting tin |
| 22:35.22 | goose | I will end you |
| 22:35.42 | goose | frankS2: which of those methods is the easiest? I'm trying irssi-proxy right now, it's making my brain a-splode |
| 22:36.10 | jonrafkind | installing debian in qemu is insanely slow.. its been instaling the base system (at 33%) for 30 minutes now |
| 22:36.37 | frankS2 | goose: ssh tunnel is friggin easy, do that |
| 22:36.44 | woodgrain | how do I get apt keys for lenny? |
| 22:36.54 | goose | oy. I'll do some googling. anything in particular I should google for? "ssh tunnel debian"? |
| 22:37.07 | themill | dpkg: tell woodgrain about new archive key |
| 22:37.26 | themill | goose: /msg dpkg ssh tunnel |
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| 22:41.17 | woodgrain | themill, thank you. I cannot find a newer debian-keyring package newer than 2009 wth? |
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| 22:44.24 | OERIAS | any Ubuntu users? |
| 22:44.40 | themill | OERIAS: #ubuntu |
| 22:45.03 | themill | woodgrain: debian-archive-keyring is the package you want; debian-keyring is the list of developers. |
| 22:45.30 | OERIAS | themill, ubuntu is based on Debian |
| 22:45.52 | themill | OERIAS: and different to. Please go to #ubuntu for support |
| 22:46.07 | themill | dpkg: tell OERIAS about based on debian |
| 22:47.25 | woodgrain | themill, got the right package installed, thanks for the help. |
| 22:47.35 | themill | np |
| 22:48.05 | OERIAS | will my .deb install on Debian as in Ubuntu? |
| 22:48.38 | themill | OERIAS: Probably not. |
| 22:48.41 | penrod | greetings: does anybody have any idea why well functioning dhcp server would go wonky, ( ie. many clients getting error messages of duplicate ip's ) ? |
| 22:49.13 | themill | penrod: were you asking about this a few hours ago? Or do we have an outbreak of these? |
| 22:50.09 | penrod | I am asking again, I have had a few associates look at it and they are stumped too, I am building another box now, but still trying to figure out where to look. |
| 22:50.31 | themill | You don't have a rogue dhcp server on the same network? |
| 22:50.35 | BlackFate | OERIAS: maybe yes but in most cases no |
| 22:50.54 | themill | penrod: some moron turning on MS internet connection sharing or something? |
| 22:51.08 | penrod | themill: good idea, what would be best way to isolate? tcpdump and port 67 ? |
| 22:51.54 | goose | frankS2: sorry to keep bugging you for help.. ssh -C goose@server-domain.org -L 2000:server-domain.org:6667 <--when connecting to localhost/2000 with xchat, this connected me to the IRCd running on server-domain.org from the server's IP. close to what I want, but not quite. Do I change the second server-domain.org? (the 2000:server-domain.org:6667) |
| 22:52.45 | frankS2 | uhm |
| 22:52.47 | frankS2 | what do you want |
| 22:52.57 | goose | to proxy my IRC traffic through my VPS |
| 22:53.23 | frankS2 | yes? |
| 22:53.44 | frankS2 | oh no |
| 22:53.45 | frankS2 | yes |
| 22:53.48 | frankS2 | change the last one |
| 22:53.49 | frankS2 | -L |
| 22:53.50 | themill | penrod: pretty much. Apparently ipads are not good at giving up dhcp leases when they don't get renewed for any reason |
| 22:53.53 | goose | then I'd just do a separate port for each server? i.e. "ssh -C goose@server-domain.org -L 2000:irc.freenode.org:6667" for freenode, "ssh -C goose@server-domain.org -L 2001:irc.chatspike.net:6667" for chatspike |
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| 22:54.13 | frankS2 | yes |
| 22:54.18 | goose | and when I want to get on freenode, irc to port localhost:2000, when I want to get on chatspike, irc to port localhost:2001 |
| 22:54.19 | goose | shiny |
| 22:54.21 | goose | thanks a million :) |
| 22:54.24 | frankS2 | np |
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| 22:54.40 | frankS2 | you could automate it with sshkeys and a bashscript |
| 22:54.43 | frankS2 | would do it easyer |
| 22:54.50 | goose | I have RSA keys already |
| 22:54.53 | frankS2 | okey |
| 22:54.57 | frankS2 | ssh-agent;ssh-add |
| 22:55.05 | goose | I was about to say, I could @reboot an SSH session, and crontab it, no? |
| 22:55.09 | frankS2 | ye |
| 22:55.12 | frankS2 | :) |
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| 22:55.21 | goose | today is a win day |
| 22:55.26 | themill | goose: autossh might be handy too |
| 22:55.34 | goose | I do not know of this autossh |
| 22:55.35 | goose | what is it? |
| 22:55.46 | themill | ,info autossh |
| 22:55.47 | judd | autossh (net, optional): Automatically restart SSH sessions and tunnels. Version: 1.4b-1; Size: 26.5k; Installed: 64k; Homepage: http://www.harding.motd.ca/autossh/ |
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| 22:56.20 | goose | sounds useful |
| 22:56.25 | goose | considering my crappy wifi connection |
| 22:56.41 | goose | does it require any configuring or anything besides apt-get install? |
| 22:57.02 | themill | goose: just use "autossh" instead of "ssh" for the most part. |
| 22:57.11 | goose | ah |
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| 23:14.26 | xperia | hello to all. can somebody tell me how can i clean up my swap space ? i have a lot of php scripts that need a lot of memory and becouse of that the swap space is used a lot. the strange thing however is that my swap space is not cleaned up after the sripts finish. what can i do ? after a while becouse i run out of swap space my server freeze ! |
| 23:14.33 | goose | Win! |
| 23:14.39 | goose | Almost |
| 23:14.53 | DeSian | i'll to start xchat with danish spell checking and German but just worked for english nothing else http://chawg.pastebin.com/c9F1e1bc |
| 23:15.05 | goose | I have 14 SSH sessions active, because that's how many IRC networks I connect too :S Any way to narrow that down? |
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| 23:17.10 | miasma | hmm what do you people use to backup dvds? dvdbackup caused floating point exceptions & segfaults here, someone had similar kinds of errors 2 years ago: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg498333.html |
| 23:17.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | xperia, I think you misunderstand how swap works. |
| 23:18.16 | themill | goose: use alternate ports |
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| 23:18.49 | goose | er.. rephrase, themill? :S |
| 23:19.13 | themill | goose: you're just using these as ssh tunnels aren't you? |
| 23:19.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | goose, narrow what down? |
| 23:19.23 | goose | yes, themill |
| 23:19.35 | themill | goose: you can have multiple tunnels per connection |
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| 23:19.42 | goose | oh? |
| 23:19.45 | goose | I had no idea |
| 23:19.50 | likevinyl | is away: Sirvanme un poco de ese té indio para la memoria y les contare todo... |
| 23:20.00 | themill | likevinyl: please turn that off |
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| 23:20.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | on the bright side, we learn... well... spanish? |
| 23:20.19 | goose | so I can do: autossh -C goose@server.domain.org -L 2000:irc.freenode.org:7000 2001:irc.chatspike.net:6697 |
| 23:20.20 | goose | ? |
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| 23:20.35 | xperia | CutMeOwnThroat: the thing is i have around 350 MB swap space. my server has around 128 MB memory and the scripts in total use when both at same time run maximal 160 MB Memory. so the swap space should be not more used then maximal 100 MB. but it is filled full after a while |
| 23:20.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | although it's unclear when we'll get the opportunity to say "I'm away" |
| 23:21.08 | B3nZ3n | Hellow, Im trying to set up a benchmark to compare two file systems and I'm looking for a way to disable any "cache" system on my debian. Any leads? |
| 23:21.11 | goose | although it is somewhat amusing: http://pastie.org/941008 |
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| 23:21.47 | miasma | xperia: the swap space is automatically freed when the process dies and releases its memory :F |
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| 23:23.56 | xperia | miasma: exactly this does not happen and i dont have memory leaks in my scripts. as long only one script run everything is fine. but when both scripts run and the memory is over used by the scripts the swap usage increase however it never drop again. it grows and grows |
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| 23:24.29 | frostschutz | xperia: it doesn't instantly unswap everything just because memory became available, if that's what you mean |
| 23:26.05 | goose | themill: how can I do multiple tunnels per connection? :S |
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| 23:26.17 | goose | multiple -L flags? |
| 23:26.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | xperia, there's nothing you could/should do, except possibly increase the amount of swap. you can force everything out of swap with swapoff -a;swapon -a, but that's not a useful thing to do except for debugging |
| 23:27.01 | frostschutz | there's also /proc/sys/vm/swappiness to configure how aggressively stuff should be kept in swap |
| 23:28.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | that, there is |
| 23:28.24 | xperia | it should be possible to clean out the old non used pages out of swap. they just sit out there and wast usefull swap space that is needed. without cleaning of the swap space the server dies especially if you have a lot of php scripts that need allways to be put in to the swap |
| 23:28.30 | miasma | xperia: the swap usage grows, yes, but also the amount of free main memory grows. assuming your scripts finish properly without leaking memory |
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| 23:29.00 | panix | new ubuntu is really cool |
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| 23:29.39 | panix | can i install this in debian ? http://ubuntusatanic.org/ |
| 23:29.43 | xperia | miasma: yes the free memory grows but it dont help me becouse my scripts when running parallel they allways need the swap and with the time the server freeze becouse of the non cleaning of the swap space |
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| 23:30.11 | frostschutz | xperia: you're not making much sense - the memory used in total shouldn't increase just because you're using swap. if the memory isn't freed you have a process sitting somewhere using / leaking memory |
| 23:30.21 | xperia | it should be really possible to clean out the swap especially if it get critical |
| 23:31.01 | miasma | xperia: there's nothing to be cleaned. the operating system moves less used pages to the swap file/partition. if your script uses too much swap and becomes slow, you should buy more ram |
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| 23:33.47 | xperia | frostschutz: i am tracing all values with top. if only one of the scripts run everything is fine as i dont run out of memory and need the swap space. however if both scripts run they allways need more than the availble RAM Memory and becouse of this the swap space is used however after the scripts finish ( i get allways email from the scripts) the swap space is not cleaned up |
| 23:34.30 | frostschutz | xperia: that would make your kernel or your virtual server environment buggy. if the processes end, the memory they used should be freed. |
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| 23:34.58 | xperia | hmmm |
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| 23:38.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps the scripts never exit |
| 23:38.43 | xperia | frostschutz: i think the best thing is if you try it itself. just create two simple php files that does nothing else then create and popultae arrays with random numbers and run them in parallel modus. You will see that the swap space is not cleaned up instead after a while your server freeze. |
| 23:39.12 | frostschutz | xperia: eh, I don't really want to use PHP to allocate 16GB of memory :/ |
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| 23:39.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | what better fun could there be... |
| 23:40.36 | frostschutz | although php is a good key word, most php environments dont kill the php process immediately after the request is served, so it could be still alive and using memory? |
| 23:40.41 | dancek | panix, that looks like just a bunch of themes so it will probably be installable on debian (provided that the maintainers made sensible dependencies for it) |
| 23:41.14 | xperia | well i dont see the processes in top after they finish |
| 23:41.27 | xperia | maybe i need some other command to see all processes |
| 23:41.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | I think you're barking up the wrong tree |
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| 23:41.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | the real question is "why am I getting freezes" |
| 23:42.20 | dancek | panik, though i really fail to see the fun in such stuff, like if you're an atheist then it's like having a saviour pink elephant theme, and if you do believe in that stuff then you're totally failing |
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| 23:42.27 | frostschutz | dunno if there's a command that lists processes currently using swap space |
| 23:42.32 | frostschutz | there should be I guess |
| 23:42.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | ps |
| 23:43.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | RSS resident set size, the non-swapped physical memory that a task has use |
| 23:44.45 | xperia | CutMeOwnThroat: the reason for server freeze is i have php scripts that need more memory as availble. becouse of this swap space is used. after a while (6 Hours of non stop run of the Scripts every 2 Minutes) i am getting out of swap Space and the server freeze becouse no memory anymore is availble |
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| 23:45.34 | frostschutz | xperia: your top sorts by memory usage, not cpu, right? |
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| 23:45.45 | themill | xperia: that's unlikely to be the real problem... but you're not providing us with any more information to help you. |
| 23:46.09 | echosystm | hi guys, im looking to learn about embedded linux and want to learn how to build a linux image from scratch, package by package |
| 23:46.29 | echosystm | can anyone here provide a website or something that will help me make a start? |
| 23:46.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | themill, well, he keeps insisting |
| 23:46.49 | frostschutz | echosystm: google "linux from scratch"? |
| 23:46.53 | echosystm | and yes, im already aware of google.com :-) |
| 23:46.54 | themill | CutMeOwnThroat: I know... :( |
| 23:47.23 | echosystm | ok thanks frostschutz |
| 23:47.31 | xperia | frostschutz: http://paste-bin.com/view/85e83d1f |
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| 23:48.22 | goose | is there a maximum number of SSH tunnels I can have? I seem to be having no apparent reason for failing to connect to one of my IRC networks... |
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| 23:49.47 | Guthur | I install debian recently from the stable ISO, I then updated but the new kernel does seem to be in /lib/modules |
| 23:49.52 | frostschutz | goose: well if it's ssh you can always use verbose to find out where it fails? |
| 23:50.21 | Guthur | The system says its using that particular kernel though, do I need to build it manually or something |
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| 23:52.07 | goose | frostschutz: -v flag? |
| 23:52.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | "man ssh" might provide a clue there? |
| 23:53.02 | miasma | xperia: that output doesn't show all processes. e.g. the web server is missing |
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| 23:53.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | and it's sorted for CPU usage |
| 23:53.28 | miasma | xperia: analyzing the situation might be easier with htop instead of top. |
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| 23:54.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | you could keep vmstat running |
| 23:54.04 | miasma | xperia: also you should find out how the web server works. is it forking new php processes. even if php has a memory limit, if too many processes are forked, the oom killer kicks in |
| 23:54.10 | xperia | miasma: thanks for the hint. just in the last two minutes the swap space usage increased again http://paste-bin.com/view/dd335b08 |
| 23:54.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | top isn't appropriate for that |
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| 23:55.02 | miasma | xperia: it increased by about 140 kB. that's totally irrelevant |
| 23:55.21 | themill | free physical memory went up in the same period too |
| 23:56.11 | miasma | xperia: are you sure you're experiencing out of memory problems, i.e. does the kernel kill processes randomly? or is it just trashing heavily |
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| 23:57.21 | miasma | if that's some ordinary old desktop PC, the load avg 1.11 is already quite high and can freeze the system somewhat |
| 23:57.25 | xperia | themill: the server runs fine without any problems till the usage of the swap space is 100% and then the full server freeze becouse both php scripts need more memory as availble but there is no memory to get. |
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| 23:58.05 | miasma | xperia: have you set some kind of upper bound for the memory usage of those php processes. there's a switch in php's configuration file |
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| 23:58.38 | miasma | you also need to set an upper bound for the number of php processes in the web server's configuration |
| 23:58.52 | themill | xperia: are you sure that they actually exit? How are you running these scripts? What do they do? |
| 23:59.20 | xperia | miasma: yes i have increased in all php scripts the mmeory limit and set the timeout of the scripts to null |
| 23:59.42 | themill | xperia: umm... that's probably the wrong thing to be doing |