| 00:02.44 | void9 | okay, i'm not seeing the part that tells me how to map a debconf screen to its debconf-get-selections code-name |
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| 00:04.10 | void9 | i'm in the installer right now, and i've answered the question. can i dump selections, or view the file where they're stored, from within the installer? |
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| 00:08.56 | djura-san | im off. have a nice chat people :) |
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| 00:10.59 | void9 | okay, i've completed the isntall and dumped selections, and nothing mentions partman or swap. how do i find the straing? |
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| 00:34.37 | tim | I am trying to change the root password for mysql (I forgot what I put first when asked) can any guru tell me how to do that ? |
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| 00:36.13 | jordanm | tim: /msg dpkg i forgot mysql root password |
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| 00:36.23 | emorris | hi, with generic domestic modem/routers, the host name of Windows and Ubuntu machines are picked up. How can I get Debian to do this? At the moment they seem to leave the host name blank or leave out the entry completely. Any ideas? :-) |
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| 00:38.19 | tim | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.48 | tim | jordan: where should I put this ? |
| 00:39.35 | tim | !tell tim about mysql root password change |
| 00:39.36 | jordanm | tim: in chat, without the leading space |
| 00:39.47 | jordanm | !i forgot mysql root password |
| 00:39.47 | dpkg | If you've forgotten the <MySQL> root password, /etc/init.d/mysql stop; mysqld --skip-grant-tables; mysql -u root; use mysql; UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('mynewpassword') WHERE User='root'; FLUSH PRIVILEGES; C-d; stop mysqld; /etc/init.d/mysql start, or http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html, or <mysql initial password> |
| 00:40.13 | tim | Jordanm: you are a GENIUS :) |
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| 00:40.29 | tim | now let's see if it works :) |
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| 00:41.40 | \amethyst | emorris: in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf you can add a line send host-name "blah"; |
| 00:41.57 | \amethyst | emorris: I don't know if there is a simple way to have it send the machine's current hostname though |
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| 00:45.44 | emorris | \amethyst, awesome, that works great, thanks! |
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| 00:53.56 | Netham45 | anyone know the line I'd put in my sources.list to get the sources repo for edgy? |
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| 00:54.25 | jordanm | Netham45: do you mean etch? |
| 00:54.53 | Netham45 | er |
| 00:54.53 | Netham45 | yea |
| 00:54.54 | Netham45 | etch |
| 00:55.21 | jordanm | !sources |
| 00:55.21 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
| 00:55.43 | jordanm | Netham45: what release are you running? |
| 00:55.48 | Netham45 | etch |
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| 00:56.40 | jordanm | Netham45: etch is no longer supported |
| 00:57.03 | jordanm | Netham45: its getting a point release and then archived |
| 00:57.21 | Netham45 | There's no builds of lenny for PPC64 |
| 00:57.29 | Netham45 | even the etch build is a community build |
| 00:58.39 | jordanm | Netham45: openvz container? |
| 00:58.54 | Netham45 | You say that like you think I know what it means. :P |
| 00:59.23 | jordanm | Netham45: what does uname -a say? |
| 00:59.51 | Netham45 | Linux Xenon 2.6.33linux-2.6.33-x0.4 #18 SMP Thu May 13 14:53:12 MDT 2010 ppc64 GNU/Linux |
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| 01:00.47 | jordanm | Netham45: what is this exactly? |
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| 01:00.59 | Netham45 | An Xbox 360. |
| 01:01.28 | jordanm | Netham45: yes, but what distro is it really |
| 01:01.36 | Netham45 | It's Debian? |
| 01:01.58 | jordanm | at the least its a "blend" |
| 01:02.22 | Netham45 | it's pretty much just Debian w/ a custom kernel |
| 01:02.57 | jordanm | Netham45: did you build the kernel? |
| 01:03.00 | Netham45 | yea |
| 01:03.27 | jordanm | Netham45: and you chose etch with a .33 kernel? |
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| 01:03.39 | Netham45 | It's what the xbox patches were available for. |
| 01:03.54 | Netham45 | and etch is the only Debian distro that has a PPC64 repo |
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| 01:15.15 | Netham45 | jordanm, what would you use? |
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| 01:16.26 | Netham45 | it's either use ppc64 etch or ppc lenny |
| 01:16.30 | kurt_h | since squeeze doesn't use an xorg.conf, how do i tell X to use the nonfree nvidia driver? |
| 01:16.37 | jordanm | Netham45: lenny. they both appear to support the same archs |
| 01:16.53 | Netham45 | The ppc64 builds for etch aren't offical |
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| 01:16.55 | jordanm | Netham45: http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ |
| 01:17.09 | Netham45 | <Netham45> The ppc64 builds for etch aren't offical |
| 01:17.12 | jordanm | Netham45: which is why I was asking where you got it |
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| 01:56.52 | bleepbloop | I'm trying to add a line to my /etc/apt/sources.list , but each time I use the command given on the debain page 'deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main' , bash doesn't recognize the command 'deb'. |
| 01:58.10 | bzed | bleepbloop: you need to *add* this line to /etc/apt/sources.list. Not try to execute it in your shell. |
| 01:58.11 | bleepbloop | oh wait |
| 01:58.14 | bleepbloop | yeah |
| 01:58.17 | bleepbloop | I just realized |
| 01:58.18 | bzed | bleepbloop: open some editor... |
| 01:58.28 | bleepbloop | space cadet plus noob = facepalm |
| 01:58.42 | bzed | m) |
| 01:59.00 | GeekyLink | my lenny server just crashed while I was installing a package via aptitude, what should I check to see what might have caused it? |
| 01:59.31 | bleepbloop | thanks though, bzed |
| 01:59.37 | bzed | bleepbloop: you're welcome |
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| 02:00.05 | bzed | GeekyLink: did it show a bcaktrace from the kernel on the screen? |
| 02:00.15 | bzed | GeekyLink: looking into logs is the best thing to do usually |
| 02:00.27 | GeekyLink | I'm not sure which logs I should check out |
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| 02:01.08 | GeekyLink | and the system just completely froze, couldn't even ping it or login at the actual computer |
| 02:01.09 | karlpinc_ | GeekyLink: You should first check the screen. |
| 02:01.25 | bzed | GeekyLink: /var/log/{syslog,kern.log} for example |
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| 02:02.05 | bzed | GeekyLink: bug chances are good that nothing managed to get to the disk... such things always smell like buggy ram, too |
| 02:02.22 | karlpinc_ | GeekyLink: Unless you were installing a kernel related package it's unlikely the package installation caused the crash. |
| 02:02.40 | karlpinc_ | GeekyLink: When you say you couldn't login you mean the text prompt, right? |
| 02:02.57 | GeekyLink | yes |
| 02:03.12 | bleepbloop | another question |
| 02:03.17 | GeekyLink | @ text prompt |
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| 02:04.05 | karlpinc_ | GeekyLink: I agree with bzed. If you can't find anything in the logs try running memtest86+. Overnight to be sure the problem's not heat related. |
| 02:04.20 | bleepbloop | in the line I need to add 'deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main', is 'sid' for the specific mirror I'm adding, or if I'm using lenny, should I replace 'sid' in that line with 'lenny' ? |
| 02:04.50 | karlpinc_ | bleepbloop: You should use lenny. |
| 02:04.54 | GeekyLink | karlpinc_: ok thanks, I'll check it out |
| 02:06.01 | GeekyLink | also, aptitude won't work anymore returns the error E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) \ A package failed to install. Trying to recover: |
| 02:06.05 | GeekyLink | how might I fix that? |
| 02:06.21 | bleepbloop | but if it doesn't look like the package I want is in the lenny packages, wouldn't I have to use sid? |
| 02:06.35 | karlpinc_ | bleepbloop: Sounds like you should be reading the installation manual, or type "/msg dpkg grounding" here. |
| 02:06.59 | karlpinc_ | bleepbloop: No, you do not want to mix lenny and sid. What is your actual problem? |
| 02:08.16 | karlpinc_ | GeekyLink: Aptitude gives you that message when you run it as root? |
| 02:08.17 | bleepbloop | I'm trying to install tint2, and tried to use the method described on tint2's how-to page, and then found this:http://packages.debian.org/sid/powerpc/tint2/download , so I'm basically I'm trying to figure out how to install/or how I can install, tint2 in a manner that I wont be as easily able to screw it up |
| 02:08.24 | GeekyLink | karlpinc_: yeah |
| 02:08.49 | karlpinc_ | GeekyLink: dunno. |
| 02:08.53 | GeekyLink | obviously from the crash halfway into install a package |
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| 02:09.05 | GeekyLink | simply trying to remove the half installed package |
| 02:09.21 | karlpinc_ | bleepbloop: A tetris-like game? |
| 02:09.46 | bleepbloop | nah, its a light-weight task bar |
| 02:10.01 | karlpinc_ | bleepbloop: For what window manager? |
| 02:10.56 | bleepbloop | "Tint2 is a panel/taskbar for modern x window managers like GNOME, KDE, XFCE, openbox, pekwm,etc.. " |
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| 02:12.51 | karlpinc_ | bleepbloop: Well you either wait for it to enter stable, upgrade your entire system, or recompile from source yourself. If you do the latter your expected to know all the dependencies and be able to satisfy them, and deal with breakage as your system is patched and updated. This can somewhat be mitigated by building your own debian package, effectivly backporting. The debian developer manual should help. |
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| 02:13.12 | karlpinc_ | !sns |
| 02:13.13 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
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| 02:13.29 | bleepbloop | haha |
| 02:13.30 | karlpinc_ | bleepbloop: I tend just to wait for a new debian stable. |
| 02:14.11 | bleepbloop | thanks, karlpinc_! that sounds a bit intense for my skill level at this point, so I think I may wait |
| 02:14.27 | karlpinc_ | bleepbloop: If it was something standalone-ish it'd be relatively straightfoward to backport. But something window manager related probably has a lot of dependencies on newer features and who knows what else would have to be recompiled/etc too. |
| 02:15.36 | karlpinc_ | bleepbloop: You could try following the guide you get from "/msg dpkg ssb" and see what happens. YMMV. |
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| 02:16.50 | karlpinc_ | GeekyLink: Someone knows how to solve your apt problem. It might be in the deb docs or wiki. Or ask again here later. |
| 02:17.33 | GeekyLink | karlpinc_: yeah I'm doing some googling and checking the docs, thanks for your help though |
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| 02:19.08 | GeekyLink | would attempting to force remove the corrupt package(s) be a bad idea? |
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| 02:25.22 | karlpinc_ | GeekyLink: I don't know. It sorta sounds like exactly what force removal is for, but.... |
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| 02:35.35 | Ktrav | Hey I just installed compiz and have all the settings worked out to my liking, but I noticed the gnome-GTK sound indicator has changed. Id like all the indicators (Sound, Display Lighting, etc) to be the same |
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| 02:35.46 | Ktrav | So how do I disable the compiz overlay |
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| 02:48.24 | GeekyLink | karlpinc_: found a solution to my problem if you're interested. Had to rm packagename.post* (packagename being the name of each corrupted package) and then aptitude purge them |
| 02:48.46 | GeekyLink | oh, and out of /var/lib/dpkg/info |
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| 02:58.29 | mezimezim | hey, what's the difference between this channel and the one on OFTC? |
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| 03:01.20 | simonrvn | 2 different networks |
| 03:01.50 | hideo | astute! |
| 03:02.02 | mezimezim | simonrvn; I know this much.... I guess my question is more: why is Debian present on 2 different networks? |
| 03:02.46 | simonrvn | why not? and they're not official channels, though the oftc one could be construed as such by some. |
| 03:02.53 | simonrvn | afk |
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| 03:06.02 | mezimezim | simonrvn: on the Debian.org website, (the French one anyway), they only point out to OFTC.... |
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| 04:03.01 | dkozel | I have a question about sound in lenny, is this a good place to ask it? |
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| 04:13.01 | peterrooney | !alsa one-liner |
| 04:13.01 | dpkg | "aptitude install alsa-base alsa-utils". After it's installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels. Some applications don't know how to talk directly to ALSA, see <devdsp>. You may also need to install libesd-alsa0 if you're using ESD-based applications. Some ALSA drivers require firmware from userspace, ask me about <alsa firmware>. |
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| 04:23.53 | ALBATRUS | CHAT ONLINE www.cyberpunks.ro CHAT ONLINE www.cyberpunks.ro ROMANIAN CHAT |
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| 04:47.45 | zcat[1] | I'd like to upgrade a partition from ext3 to ext4 .. don't really have room for a backup though (movies and shit, not hugely important but I'd rather not just throw them away) .. can this be done or is backup, reformat, restore the only option? |
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| 04:54.49 | macrobat | backup is always a nice thing. |
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| 04:56.15 | macrobat | !ext3->ext4 |
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| 04:57.03 | Bushmills | "no room for backup" .. grin ... why don't you delete the partition right away? |
| 04:57.46 | macrobat | backups on the same drive are not worth as much |
| 04:58.13 | karsten | zcat[1]: If the data are that important, buy an external drive already. |
| 04:58.57 | Bushmills | macrobat: but in this case it is "neither on same nor on any other drive or medium" |
| 04:59.35 | zcat[1] | karsten: I already said it's not hugely important. Just wondering if there was an easy way to upgrade like "tune2fs -j" for upgrading ext2 to ext3 ... if there's not just say so and I won't bother. |
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| 05:00.16 | macrobat | http://www.google.com/search?q=ext3%20to%20ext4%20conversion&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t |
| 05:00.42 | zcat[1] | the data is expendable, it's just movies and shit that I can rip again. I'd just rather not go to the bother of ripping it all again, so if I can't easily upgrade then I won't. |
| 05:01.15 | zcat[1] | just for once it'd be nice to get a simple yes/no/here's how answer around here without a bloody lecture |
| 05:01.38 | macrobat | yes |
| 05:03.07 | macrobat | needs a newer kernel than lenny, though |
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| 05:03.38 | zcat[1] | yeah, running squeeze already |
| 05:03.59 | macrobat | and grub2 if /boot is on ext4 |
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| 05:06.43 | zcat[1] | Hmmm.. I think perhaps I will just keep everything on ext3 after all ;) |
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| 05:09.06 | zcat[1] | about to migrate my wife's computer to debian. She's not impressed with Lucid! |
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| 05:14.21 | k1ng\ | hey, can anyone tell me where to get vertual debit card to verify paypal? |
| 05:14.27 | k1ng\ | hey, can anyone tell me where to get vertual debit card to verify paypal? |
| 05:14.45 | zcat[1] | lolwhut? |
| 05:15.16 | zcat[1] | apt-get install virtual-debit-card |
| 05:15.51 | macrobat | you want to donate to the debian project? |
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| 05:17.03 | zcat[1] | ok, doing cheat install. I tarred up root to usb drive, untarring it now to her computer then I'll just edit /etc/hostname, /etc/networking, etc/fstab and reinstall grub .. that should work, right ;) |
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| 05:17.44 | zcat[1] | because installing debian and getting everything set up nice takes a while... |
| 05:18.07 | macrobat | gl;hf :) |
| 05:18.23 | nsadmin | should work with some effort |
| 05:18.57 | macrobat | there are always some small annoyances you forget :) |
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| 05:19.25 | zcat[1] | I figure it's less effort than a proper install and post-install stuff. Yeah, there's always a bunch of stuff you have to tweak after but that should get the basic system up |
| 05:20.16 | zcat[1] | using an ubuntu CD to gparted / mount drives / tar -x ;) |
| 05:20.27 | nsadmin | it's just a 1-partition system? |
| 05:20.40 | zcat[1] | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:20.44 | nsadmin | you should probably give her a separate /home |
| 05:20.50 | nsadmin | oh, you did |
| 05:21.10 | k1ng\ | :P |
| 05:21.21 | macrobat | idk, partition names, uuid, different hardware |
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| 05:21.53 | zcat[1] | hardware is similar enough, 64 bit CPU, nvidia card .. it'll run! |
| 05:22.26 | nsadmin | is she going to have to solve problems herself? |
| 05:22.44 | zcat[1] | I know what else.. /etc/udev.d/*persistent-network-rules |
| 05:23.11 | zcat[1] | she's a non-geek. |
| 05:23.30 | zcat[1] | basically I get everything working and leave it alone |
| 05:24.01 | nsadmin | what was she running before? |
| 05:24.09 | zcat[1] | ubuntu 9.04 |
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| 05:25.09 | zcat[1] | I should have just left it but support runs out in 6mo, she's going to have to upgrade sometime. |
| 05:25.24 | macrobat | i had to make a new initrd when i changed mobo |
| 05:25.33 | nsadmin | paid support? |
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| 05:26.16 | zcat[1] | no, just 'you have on old version of flash' support.. It's a pain to keep ubuntu up to date once canonical stop keeping the repos up to date for your version |
| 05:26.29 | jnewt | anyone using noip2 , i can't get the client to work properly, it points toward the ip of my modem for some reason. i have it set up on eth0, which is connected to the modem, but it should log into no-ip.com and point back to the external ip of my system. anyone know how to make this thing work. it seems i have followed the instructions, with no luck. |
| 05:26.43 | zcat[1] | soooo I upgraded to 10.04 .. and she wasn't too happy with it. |
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| 05:26.57 | nsadmin | why? |
| 05:27.32 | zcat[1] | facebook games not running well, all the buttons have moved.. |
| 05:27.46 | zcat[1] | takes longer to log in (which is just weird!) |
| 05:28.06 | courpse | Dont use stupid facebook? (!) |
| 05:28.17 | zcat[1] | yeah, I know! |
| 05:28.41 | macrobat | facebook games? when there is bsdgames :) |
| 05:28.42 | nsadmin | you can make very serious money with facebook,... bot ok |
| 05:28.54 | fonseg | how to completely remove 'qemu-kvm'? i use 'aptitude remove --purge qemu-kvm' but it does not delete /etc/init.d/qemu-kvm and /etc/kvm/kvm-ifup. or i have to remove these files manually? |
| 05:29.05 | zcat[1] | anyhow, afk back l8r |
| 05:29.41 | nsadmin | fonseg: what package do those belong to? |
| 05:30.02 | fonseg | nsadmin: qemu-kvm itself |
| 05:30.43 | nsadmin | , depends qemu-kvm |
| 05:30.45 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'qemu-kvm' was found in lenny/i386. |
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| 05:31.00 | fonseg | judd: i am using squeeze |
| 05:31.22 | nsadmin | , depends qemu-kvm squeeze |
| 05:31.24 | judd | qemu-kvm -- depends: libaio1, libasound2 (>> 1.0.18), libbluetooth3 (>= 4.40), libbrlapi0.5, libc6 (>= 2.10), libcurl3-gnutls (>= 7.16.2-1), libgnutls26 (>= 2.7.14-0), libncurses5 (>= 5.6+20071006-3), libpci3 (>= 1:3.1.7), libpulse0 (>= 0.9.21), libsasl2-2, libsdl1.2debian (>= 1.2.10-1), libuuid1 (>= 2.16), libvdeplug2, libx11-6 (>= 0), zlib1g (>= 1:1.1.4), iproute, bridge-utils, python. |
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| 05:33.04 | nsadmin | were most of those installed when you installed it? |
| 05:33.26 | SerajewelKS | oh, now there's something i have not seen before -- this is a rather elaborate anti-spam mechanism combining greylisting and relay checks... |
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| 05:33.41 | fonseg | nsadmin, judd: after removing, the status (get from 'dpkg -l | grep qemu-kvm') change from 'ii' to 'rc' |
| 05:33.45 | SerajewelKS | first attempt to deliver a message was met with "452 Requested action not taken: insufficient system storage (in reply to end of DATA command)" |
| 05:34.04 | nsadmin | it's not purged |
| 05:34.12 | SerajewelKS | second attempt with 250, followed by an attempt to use my server as an open relay. presumably if that succeeded it would not deliver the message. |
| 05:34.26 | nsadmin | dpkg --purge qemu-kvm |
| 05:34.26 | dpkg | drinks a glass of salty water, sticks his fingers down his throat and throws up qemu-kvm all over nsadmin and widmo... |
| 05:34.57 | fonseg | nsadmin: i thought 'aptitude remove --purge qemu-kvm' should do it. no? |
| 05:35.02 | SerajewelKS | it's running exim... i wonder, is this a common thing to do with exim? |
| 05:35.11 | nsadmin | try it anyway |
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| 05:36.07 | nsadmin | you're not saying anything about the output of dpkg... I hope you're reading and understanding it |
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| 05:36.19 | snupi | I'm trying to install kde 4.4 on debian 5 using aptitude, I am getting a build error can some one please check out http://pastebin.com/1247dZTv and give me any possible advice.. |
| 05:37.26 | SerajewelKS | snupi: "trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/kjscmd.1.gz', which is also in package kjscmd" |
| 05:37.42 | HandyGandy | Boy am I glad that irc is long distance cause if we were in the same room I know I would get beat up for asking this question. |
| 05:37.42 | SerajewelKS | snupi: try removing the kjscmd package, it looks like it is included in kdelibs5-data |
| 05:37.51 | ColdStart | yeppppp i soldered LCFSP16 with toaster oven! |
| 05:37.52 | HandyGandy | Where can I get moria for debian? |
| 05:38.03 | SerajewelKS | snupi: and file a bug against kdelibs5-data. kdelibs5-data conflict with kjscmd. |
| 05:38.09 | ColdStart | oh sorry wrong channel |
| 05:38.14 | snupi | thank you |
| 05:38.15 | SerajewelKS | kdelibs5-data should* conflict with kjscmd. |
| 05:38.34 | macrobat | is dpkg a "he"? |
| 05:38.43 | nsadmin | !gender |
| 05:38.43 | dpkg | I'm female |
| 05:38.48 | nsadmin | !gender |
| 05:39.01 | macrobat | that's what i thought |
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| 05:39.14 | nsadmin | !gender |
| 05:39.14 | dpkg | I'm sexless |
| 05:39.18 | SerajewelKS | ColdStart: run it under wine or something, or in a virtual machine |
| 05:39.25 | fonseg | nsadmin: that command solved the prob. maybe i should re-read aptitude manpage. thanks |
| 05:39.33 | SerajewelKS | ColdStart: or get the sources and try to compile them |
| 05:39.49 | phorce1 | HandyGandy: angband is available. I think moria stopped being maintained so you may have to grab an old source package and compile it yourself |
| 05:39.51 | SerajewelKS | ColdStart: http://beej.us/moria/files/source/ -- i found this in two seconds on google. your google-fu is weak, young padawan. |
| 05:39.56 | nsadmin | fonseg: having those files is probably harmless btw |
| 05:40.49 | ColdStart | err what are u talking about |
| 05:41.00 | HandyGandy | phorcel: I expected that I would have to compile it. But I haven't found a version that will compile without a lot of work. |
| 05:41.14 | phorce1 | SerajewelKS: It was HandyGandy that asked about Moria |
| 05:41.38 | nsadmin | ColdStart: so you want moria... right? |
| 05:41.50 | nsadmin | oh that's true, sorry |
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| 05:42.12 | nsadmin | you'll need ncurses for moria |
| 05:42.17 | phorce1 | HandyGandy: I think it "vanished" back around Debian 2.x. It's definitely going to take some work to get it to compile with newer libraries. |
| 05:42.23 | ColdStart | no i dont |
| 05:43.26 | phorce1 | HandyGandy: Also, look around google and see if anyone has kept current binaries for other distros. Someone else may have already done the work and have some updated source |
| 05:43.28 | SerajewelKS | phorce1: erg, oops |
| 05:43.32 | SerajewelKS | ColdStart: sorry |
| 05:43.41 | SerajewelKS | HandyGandy: see what i said to ColdStart above, that was meant for you |
| 05:46.37 | HandyGandy | phorce1: I guerss I will have to look for dos emulation then. ( dos binaries are available ). |
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| 06:25.01 | dpkg | <troubl1> how do i know if a desktop install with my install of debian ??? <abrotman> troubl1: what is your native language? <troubl1> its supposed to be english lol |
| 06:25.50 | bburhans | sshd issue: passauth disabled, pubkeyauth enabled, debian stable (lenny/5.0) on an openvz VPS, root login via key works but not for another user, bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=555625 applies but workaround was applied, http://benburhans.pastebin.com/VjYjrn3g indicates no permission problems and there's nothing relevant in /var/log/messages and nothing useful in /var/log/auth.log, no mention of his attempts. |
| 06:26.26 | bburhans | any insights to my stupidity would be greatly appreciated. |
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| 06:57.27 | zcat[1] | !grub2 |
| 06:57.27 | dpkg | [grub2] GNU GRUB 2 is the successor to GRUB Legacy (GNU GRUB version 0.9x). In development, little documentation at present. Packaged as grub-pc (PC/BIOS version) and grub-ieee1275 (OpenFirmware version). http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-2.en.html. Command list comparison: http://grub.enbug.org/CommandList . See also <grub2 squeeze>, <grub2 config>, http://wiki.debian.org/GrubTransition . #grub on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 07:05.13 | yang_ | This is a nice one to resolve - mysql-server removal http://pastebin.com/s0ja2BcK |
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| 07:10.16 | courpse | :/ |
| 07:10.45 | courpse | yang_: is 5,1 in the repos? |
| 07:11.23 | yang_ | i guess so |
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| 07:11.37 | courpse | lenny? |
| 07:12.17 | courpse | i got 5.0 in my repos, but not 5.1 |
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| 07:12.41 | sistematico | This rule contains some security flaw? -> http://paste.debian.net/73340/ |
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| 07:12.59 | yang_ | courpse: its squeeze |
| 07:13.06 | courpse | ahh kk. |
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| 07:21.31 | zcat[1] | ok, so now my technophobic wife is running debian squeeze. |
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| 07:23.45 | SerajewelKS | zcat[1]: i got my grandfather-in-law running lenny |
| 07:24.06 | SerajewelKS | zcat[1]: he said he likes it better than "that windows" |
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| 07:34.33 | JyZyXEL | how do you spin down sata drives in debian? |
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| 07:39.54 | nsadmin | JyZyXEL how do you spin down sata drives in other linuxes? |
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| 07:50.23 | EagleWatch | hi all |
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| 07:55.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | hdparm! |
| 07:55.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | or sdparm as maybe |
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| 08:28.19 | robertzaccour | dpkg is funny |
| 08:28.19 | dpkg | no idea, robertzaccour |
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| 08:35.46 | k1ng\ | dpkg, mod_wsgi? |
| 08:35.47 | dpkg | k1ng\: are you using Windows? |
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| 08:52.02 | lilib | hi |
| 08:53.22 | jnewt | i have setup two vhosts in apache, one for svn, the other for my test website. when i commit to the repository, i want the other vhost updated with the files in the trunk folder of the repo. is there an easy way to do this? i was thinking of making a hook script for svn to run rsync to sync two folders together, but i would have to "check out" the head revision, then sync. this seems overly difficult. |
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| 08:53.49 | jnewt | any better ideas before i start down this path? |
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| 08:56.06 | siyb | can someone please tell me, why mdadm --create /dev/md1 --raid-devices=4 --level=5 /dev1 /dev2 /dev3 /dev4 will create an array containing 4 harddrives of which one is automatically a spare? that is just fucking stupid |
| 08:56.30 | siyb | i have tried creating the array with two hdd only and had the same problem there |
| 08:57.03 | neoice | siyb: you cant create a raid5 with 2 drives |
| 08:57.21 | GNU\colossus | siyb: never behaved that way for me. try explicitely setting --spare-devices=0 though, to work around it. |
| 08:57.24 | siyb | neoice: please read carefully |
| 08:57.31 | neoice | 01:56 < siyb> i have tried creating the array with two hdd only and had the same problem there |
| 08:57.35 | siyb | args sorry |
| 08:57.38 | siyb | that was meant to be 3 |
| 08:57.39 | GNU\colossus | neoice: I think you should be able to, although in degraded mode |
| 08:58.01 | siyb | when i tried to use 3 hddd, only 2 were in the raid, 1 was spare |
| 08:58.08 | neoice | GNU\colossus: it might need a --force or something. I know I saw someone do it using a faked device |
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| 08:58.23 | siyb | the "funny" thing is, that i can't use --add or --re-add |
| 08:58.31 | siyb | because apparently the device is busy |
| 08:58.35 | siyb | which it is not |
| 08:59.43 | dupondje | siyb: what does /proc/mdstat say when you created it ? |
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| 09:00.20 | siyb | dupondje: UUU_ |
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| 09:00.30 | courpse | I get errors when trying to use apt in CLI, i also dont have a web browser to google for some help, myerror is, dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/udev_153-2_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 09:00.30 | courpse | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:00.31 | courpse | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 09:00.31 | courpse | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:00.35 | siyb | and mdadm -D tells me that the raid is degraded |
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| 09:00.47 | courpse | :/ Sorry bot, but i had no choice. |
| 09:00.52 | GNU\colossus | siyb: can you nopaste all of /proc/mdstat please? |
| 09:01.04 | siyb | sure |
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| 09:01.44 | mufasis | anyone here running debian with another wm or desktop besides gnome.kde |
| 09:01.50 | courpse | How can i update kernel from CLI? |
| 09:01.56 | siyb | GNU\colossus: http://paste.geekosphere.org/1062690 |
| 09:01.59 | GeekyLink | I'm using XFCE4 |
| 09:02.14 | siyb | courpse: i3 |
| 09:02.15 | dupondje | siyb: |
| 09:02.16 | dupondje | When creating a RAID5 array, mdadm will automatically create a degraded array with an extra spare drive. This is because building the spare into a degraded array is in general faster than resyncing the parity on a non-degraded, but not clean, array. This feature can be over-ridden with the -I --force option. |
| 09:02.19 | siyb | and awesome |
| 09:02.25 | dupondje | man mdadm++ :) |
| 09:02.34 | courpse | siyb: What? |
| 09:02.37 | siyb | dupondje: well that must be a "new feature" |
| 09:02.56 | siyb | courpse: i use i3 and awesome |
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| 09:03.13 | siyb | dupondje: thanks a lot man ... i was kinda getting annoyed with this issue |
| 09:03.13 | courpse | siyb: To upgrade kernel from CLI? |
| 09:03.23 | dupondje | its not an issue |
| 09:03.26 | dupondje | its a feature ;) |
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| 09:03.32 | siyb | courpse: sorry misstabbed |
| 09:03.33 | siyb | ... |
| 09:03.45 | siyb | just realized that now |
| 09:03.48 | mufasis | GeekyLink how do you install xfce4 |
| 09:03.54 | courpse | And the rest too i think, :/ |
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| 09:04.00 | courpse | Not even same chrs, :/ |
| 09:04.26 | courpse | Anyone coudl tell me how to update kernel from CLI, i cant use apt at all, it keeps telling me i need to update kernel for udev to be installed. |
| 09:04.28 | GeekyLink | mufasis: as root aptitude install xfce4 |
| 09:05.14 | killown | http://bpaste.net/show/6300/ i am having problem with winbind on debian , can anyone help me fix it? |
| 09:06.10 | GNU\colossus | siyb: whilst I'm not familiar with this (new to me, too) behaviour either, you should get the array to assume the shape you want by running `mdadm --grow -n4 /dev/yourmddev` now |
| 09:06.30 | GNU\colossus | that should convert the spare device to an actual array member |
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| 09:06.57 | mufasis | GeekyLink when you installed did u just install the base system and then did that from the cmd line |
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| 09:07.45 | GeekyLink | mufasis: I already had gnome for a while and felt like trying xfce4. Should be able to set it up from just the cmd line though without a problem |
| 09:08.02 | GeekyLink | mufasis: why are you experiencing a problem? |
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| 09:08.25 | GeekyLink | s/why/why,/ |
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| 09:09.24 | siyb | GNU\colossus: i tried that before, just keep getting the error that the device is busy, i just recreated the raid ;) |
| 09:09.32 | siyb | thanks for your efford too btw |
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| 09:10.12 | GNU\colossus | siyb: np. strange stuff going on on your box though ;) |
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| 09:12.44 | lk | Any thoughts as to why volume levels are next to inaudible when I launch a video file or play a clip on the web, but after some time (used to be seconds, now it's minutes), the volume leaps to normal levels? |
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| 09:14.12 | killown | http://bpaste.net/show/6300/ i am having problem with winbind on debian , can anyone help me fix it? |
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| 09:17.09 | lk | killown, is root supposed to be the owner of that directory you ls'd? |
| 09:17.19 | lk | Or is there a dedicated winbind user? |
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| 09:17.58 | killown | lk there is no dedicated winbind user |
| 09:19.21 | mufasis | GeekyLink no just curious |
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| 09:20.18 | GeekyLink | mufasis: ah ok, good luck then. There are tons of WMs out there. Lots of fun to try |
| 09:21.36 | zrin | I suffer from blocked / frozen processes (I/O related) - please take a look at http://paste.debian.net/73347/ ... I'll be very thankful for advice on how to proceed |
| 09:22.36 | zrin | I already tested with newer kernels but the lockups were also there, actually i first experienceed them with 2.6.32 from backports |
| 09:23.09 | zrin | I have several machines with the same mainboard |
| 09:24.06 | zrin | I've seen the lockups on two of them, but I think the other ones didn't have them because of low load |
| 09:24.34 | lk | zrin, have you run any hardware diagnostics? |
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| 09:24.52 | lk | Oh, I see memtester. |
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| 09:24.58 | zrin | lk: yes, and bonnie++ |
| 09:25.28 | zrin | lk: the system seems to be stable when there is low HDD I/O activity |
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| 09:25.52 | lk | Might be a bad HDD... does smartctl -a /dev/drive say anything? |
| 09:26.11 | lk | And have you tried running badblocks -vvv /dev/drive (while it's not currently mounted)? |
| 09:26.26 | zrin | lk: smartctl shows no problems - each system (2 of them) has 7 HDDs |
| 09:26.35 | lk | I use this at work for quick and dirty diagnostics: http://www.advancedclustering.com/software/breakin.html |
| 09:26.53 | lk | If something comes up with a red flag there, I proceed to more specific tests. |
| 09:26.58 | zrin | lk: I tested with other HDDs as well (lower part in the pasted report) |
| 09:27.45 | zrin | lk: the same problem appears also on a second machine with the same hardware but few HDDs |
| 09:28.10 | lk | Ah. Maybe motherboard/chipset support is not quite there yet? |
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| 09:29.48 | elnur | A question about BIND9. Is using wildcard (*) for all subdomains a bad idea? Should I define a line for every subdomain I have? |
| 09:30.01 | zrin | lk: I'll try with the newest kernel, but the controller in question is SB700/SB800 which I thought is supported |
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| 09:30.53 | zrin | lk: I'll also try to limit SATA speed to 1.5 Gb |
| 09:31.43 | lk | Have you tried the same drives on other chipsets? |
| 09:32.22 | zrin | lk: not yet |
| 09:33.06 | lk | elnur, you mean like *.domain.com.? |
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| 09:34.01 | elnur | lk, yes |
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| 09:34.42 | lk | elnur, that should work fine. |
| 09:35.16 | elnur | lk, oki. thanks |
| 09:35.19 | lk | elnur, that's what I used to use for our staging sites at one point since they kept changing the names. |
| 09:35.52 | lk | And then I'd use ServerName in apache to handle from there on. |
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| 09:36.38 | jnewt | i have a command that i want to run in another directory. if i just run the command: svn update ... it does nothing, but if i move to the proper director /home/mydir , then run svn update it works. if i do /home/mydir svn update...it tells me /home/mydir is a directory...help? |
| 09:36.40 | lk | zrin, I'm seeing some stuff about disabling HPET MSI when configuring a kernel compile. Have you tried / looked into that by chance? |
| 09:37.10 | lk | jnewt, svn is directory specific. |
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| 09:37.29 | jnewt | lk: maybe chroot? |
| 09:37.30 | lk | If you REALLY want to make it only update that directory, you can create an alias. |
| 09:37.33 | elnur | lk, because explicitly defining every subdomain makes you to wait for global DNS updates? |
| 09:37.55 | jnewt | lk: i need to do it from a hook script in svn, so that a local directory always stays up to date. |
| 09:38.02 | zrin | lk: I've seen that reference, I'll try to disable hpet |
| 09:38.09 | lk | elnur, yeah, and it got annoying with so many projects in and out all the time =) That was just for the staging server, though. |
| 09:38.13 | jnewt | but the hoo scripts are in the repo, and the local directory is not. |
| 09:38.25 | jnewt | s/hoo/hook |
| 09:38.56 | elnur | lk, but for production you defined them explicitly? if yes, why? |
| 09:39.07 | lk | You can alias update='svn update /home/mydir' or something like that. |
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| 09:39.49 | lk | elnur, there were rarely many subdomains for each of our sites other than the "www." one, to be honest, so it wasn't much work. |
| 09:41.23 | elnur | lk, so, the reasoning is not that there are some drawbacks to using wildcard? |
| 09:41.44 | lk | elnur, not that I know of. It was more to do with laziness =) |
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| 09:42.07 | elnur | lk, heh :) |
| 09:42.24 | elnur | lk, then, ok, i'll stick with wildcard. at least for the near future |
| 09:42.30 | elnur | lk, thanks again |
| 09:43.06 | lk | You're welcome. |
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| 09:45.11 | lilib | good people help me please, i wanted to build my own xorg-server the latest 1.8.1 version and this error appears: checking for GL... configure: error: Package requirements (glproto >= 1.4.10 gl >= 7.1.0) were not met: |
| 09:45.11 | lilib | No package 'gl' found |
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| 09:45.28 | lilib | first time i found i had glproto 1.4.9 only |
| 09:45.46 | lilib | soo i found the latest 1.4.11 and ./configure and make install |
| 09:46.01 | lilib | unfortunatly this error appears again |
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| 09:46.13 | lilib | soo i wgeted 1.4.10 |
| 09:46.23 | lilib | and ./configure & make install again |
| 09:46.32 | lilib | but nothing changed :-( |
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| 09:47.25 | lilib | i am not able to run wine successful :-(, my MoBo is too much new |
| 09:49.39 | Worf | lilib: what on the MoBo is it that requires a xserver rebuild? |
| 09:49.47 | lk | lilib, wait, backtrack. You're recomping X because you can't run wine? |
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| 09:50.09 | lk | Wine in general or a game? |
| 09:50.27 | lilib | Worf: Intel Desktop Board D510MO |
| 09:50.41 | lilib | xserver the latest 1.8.1 |
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| 09:51.13 | lilib | lk> yes, because i didn't find answer to my problem |
| 09:51.25 | lilib | lk> i want run 3d app |
| 09:51.43 | lilib | and yes, it is possibly opengl related problem in general |
| 09:52.27 | lk | So no 3D apps run at all? |
| 09:52.34 | lk | You have graphics drivers installed, right? |
| 09:52.35 | lilib | lk yes |
| 09:52.50 | lilib | lk ad drivers , i guess yes, |
| 09:52.51 | lk | nvidia or ati? |
| 09:53.09 | Worf | ah - that is a new atom board with onboard intel? |
| 09:53.10 | lilib | lk i guess intel chipset |
| 09:53.17 | lilib | yes |
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| 09:53.38 | lk | Oh, hahah, I see. That is different from what I expected. |
| 09:53.57 | lilib | pitty thing is that i need run just renderer module which work directly in shell mode no need gfx |
| 09:54.00 | lk | I'll step aside now since I never actually got 'video' working on my atom boards =( |
| 09:54.17 | lilib | but looks like during app starting it calls opengl/glu .,dlls |
| 09:54.28 | lilib | which probably cause problems |
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| 09:55.13 | lilib | lk> i successfuly ran xming with some basic non 3d gfx related apps |
| 09:55.51 | Worf | well ... i don't exactely know the version numbers and the requirements, but if i start building stuff manually in debian i try unstable or eaven experimental. |
| 09:55.55 | lilib | i foudn some workaround that when i start serverx -depth 8 |
| 09:55.58 | lilib | it might work |
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| 09:57.30 | lilib | when i "started" startx some similar warning appears: (WW) VESA(0): Failed to set up write-combining range (0xd0000000,0x7f0000) |
| 09:58.56 | lilib | but when i used startx -depth 8 same warnings appear and after cca 5 seconds i see this: xterm: bad command line option "xterm" |
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| 10:03.22 | k1ng\ | who is good with bind9? |
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| 10:04.07 | cahoot | first hit on scroogle: http://tendydon.blogspot.com/2010/02/bind-9-configuration-debian.html |
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| 10:04.50 | wertwertgfhjrer | how do i show the running services like ftp-server etc in terminal? |
| 10:04.57 | wertwertgfhjrer | or at all |
| 10:05.00 | cahoot | lsof -i? |
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| 10:05.49 | wertwertgfhjrer | cahoot, thx |
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| 10:06.50 | lilib | soo please, how to get 'gl' then? |
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| 10:19.37 | k1ng\ | http://atheme.k1ngdom.net <= does it work for anyone? |
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| 10:20.53 | wathek | hello all |
| 10:20.58 | wathek | I got a Konica Minolta Bizhub 162 I'm looking for its driver to use with cups any help please ? |
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| 10:23.20 | mastro | I've debian testing, i've set my xorg.conf Emulate3Button to NO but, sometime, when I boot up i have my mouse emulating 3 buttons! this is really annoing since I use an application where I need to press both left and right button at the same time... |
| 10:23.42 | mastro | i sense that this has something to do with dbus and udev but i don't know much about it |
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| 10:24.13 | mastro | can you give me some hint to debug/solve the issue without having to reboot a random amount of times? |
| 10:24.15 | mastro | thanks |
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| 10:38.18 | lilib | wow, i got it running :) |
| 10:38.31 | nevyn | I'm having issues with network manager on sid.. it's forgotten to manage my wireless interface I've read /usr/share/doc/network-manager/README.debian and modified /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf to set [ifupdown] managed=true |
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| 10:38.49 | nevyn | but nm-tool still reports all interfaces as unmanaged |
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| 10:40.30 | fonseg | how to make aptitude ignore dependency checking? i want to remove udev, but aptitude says that i have to remove many other pkgs too. |
| 10:41.28 | nevyn | you do need to remove all sorts of things to remove udev |
| 10:41.35 | nevyn | unless you want to re-install it. |
| 10:42.28 | yang | Any idea how to solve the aptitude mysql removal - http://pastebin.com/s0ja2BcK |
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| 10:44.43 | k1ng\ | ~git |
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| 10:44.54 | k1ng\ | dpkg, git |
| 10:44.55 | dpkg | Git is a version control system created by Linus Torvalds, currently used to maintain the Linux kernel. Install the 'git-core' package to provide. http://cworth.org/hgbook-git/tour http://git-scm.com/ #git on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 10:46.17 | fonseg | nevyn: actually i will reinsll after removing it, but what i want is a 'fresh' version of it, which 'aptitude reinstall udev' not work. i noticed that after that reinstall command, /etc/udev/rules.d did not change |
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| 10:47.43 | courpse | Could really use some help please, stuck in terminal, no GUIs will boot, im unsure on what to do. |
| 10:48.00 | courpse | I've tried installed gnome with apt, but it says errors about udev or something. |
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| 10:53.18 | djura-san | o/ |
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| 11:15.39 | m1ndgame | i have 2 files, file1.txt with all ip addresses, 200, 1 on each line, and on file2.txt the same, but only 30, and also line by line, I would like to remove those ip addresses in file1 that occur in file2. how can i do this? |
| 11:15.58 | cahoot | didn't the answer you alread got suit? |
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| 11:19.08 | courpse | How can i recompile kernel for debian so that my udev works? atm, anything i try to install wont complete. |
| 11:19.46 | wols_ | courpse: you upgraded to squeeze? |
| 11:19.53 | courpse | Attempted, yes. |
| 11:20.03 | wols_ | !tell courpse aout udev squeeze |
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| 11:20.12 | wols_ | !tell courpse about udev squeeze |
| 11:20.16 | courpse | Thanks. |
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| 11:21.07 | courpse | Um, is there a how to on getting new kernel? im stuck in CLI atm, and just managed to get irssi installed via aptitude. |
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| 11:29.36 | fonseg | i have this error at boot: 'ACPI: I/O resource 0000:00:1f.3 [0x18c0-0x18df] conflicts with ACPI region SMBI [0x18c0-0x18cf]'. how to resolve this? i am using debian squeeze. |
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| 11:36.35 | nsadmin | courpse: what version of debian? what's your uname -r? what version do you want? |
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| 11:37.17 | courpse | i did have lenny, i tried upgrade to squeeze, someoen pointed out i had to recompile kernel for the udev error thingy. |
| 11:37.42 | courpse | i just want a kernel to work, i ahve no GUI atm, so it aint to easy to browse google finding one. |
| 11:38.47 | nsadmin | , kernels |
| 11:38.49 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.33-2-686 (2.6.33-1~experimental.5); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-12); squeeze: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.4-686 (2.6.32-11~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-21lenny4); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 11:39.14 | courpse | What would you suggest? |
| 11:39.25 | ham5 | vanilla? |
| 11:39.34 | courpse | oh, isee it, i missed the squeeze written there, heh. |
| 11:39.45 | courpse | yes, i wan vanilla, :/ |
| 11:40.40 | nsadmin | what's your uname -r? |
| 11:42.26 | courpse | 2.6.26-2-686 |
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| 11:42.50 | nsadmin | so you still have lenny's kernel |
| 11:43.05 | courpse | yeah, :/ |
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| 11:43.57 | netherthoughts | Hey, I'v a small question. What is the remove value to fully remove apache? |
| 11:44.01 | beefcube | can someone explain why I'm receiving /etc/update-motd.d/ no such file found errors when logging in? I've searched on this and it seems to be something related to the update-motd package, but this is seems ubuntu specific |
| 11:44.19 | nsadmin | you could try installing linux-image-2.6.32-3-686 |
| 11:46.27 | netherthoughts | nsadmin ? |
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| 11:46.43 | nkuttler | beefcube: #ubuntu |
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| 11:47.05 | courpse | nsadmin, ta, i'll try havea hunt for it. |
| 11:47.19 | beefcube | nkuttler: i run debian, and thus I automatically assume something debian related is at fault |
| 11:47.24 | eviltoaster | convert 3pg to ? with linux... any apps? |
| 11:47.30 | netherthoughts | anyone? |
| 11:47.36 | eviltoaster | 3gp* |
| 11:47.36 | nsadmin | you need not hunt... you should be able to aptitude install it |
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| 11:48.15 | netherthoughts | nsadmin I wanted to remove apache not install it. |
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| 11:49.32 | nkuttler | beefcube: apt-cache policy update-motd |
| 11:50.07 | beefcube | nkuttler: W: Unable to locate package update-motd |
| 11:50.20 | nkuttler | ... |
| 11:51.24 | eviltoaster | convert 3gp to ? with linux... any apps? |
| 11:51.33 | x-static | update notifier informed me about stable soft updates or updates in general? i'm using lenny.. thanx in advance |
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| 11:52.51 | netherthoughts | nkuttler got time to help? |
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| 11:53.31 | nkuttler | !tell netherthoughts about msg |
| 11:53.31 | wols_ | eviltoaster: ffmpeg |
| 11:53.40 | careta | hey guys whats the difference between a debian maintainer and a debian developer? |
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| 11:54.05 | netherthoughts | nkuttler, I wasn't asking you anything related to this channel :O |
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| 11:54.08 | eviltoaster | wols_, thanks |
| 11:54.09 | netherthoughts | nkuttler :O |
| 11:54.15 | nkuttler | netherthoughts: and no i am not |
| 11:54.25 | netherthoughts | !tell nkuttler about friendly talk |
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| 11:54.39 | valdyn | careta: zero? |
| 11:54.47 | nkuttler | netherthoughts: go read the freenode faq, policy etc. thanks. |
| 11:54.48 | courpse | nsadmin: Aight, am on right kernel now, ta. |
| 11:55.00 | courpse | but i still cant seem to boot a GUI, just reinstalling all gnome backpages now. |
| 11:55.02 | nsadmin | is it working? |
| 11:55.11 | wols_ | valdyn: not true |
| 11:55.21 | valdyn | wols_: do explain |
| 11:55.27 | nsadmin | brb |
| 11:55.32 | careta | valdyn, to maintain debian packages do you need to be a maintainer or developer? |
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| 11:55.46 | wols_ | http://wiki.debian.org/Maintainers |
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| 11:56.00 | valdyn | careta: theres no maintainer title in debian, just developers afaik |
| 11:56.08 | careta | because there are a couple of packages i would like to adopt |
| 11:56.17 | SmSpillaz | hey guys - quick question on debian's policy on rpath in upstreams - is it acceptable for a package to use rpath to link against internal libraries which are not supposed to be available to other packages in the search path? |
| 11:56.18 | valdyn | careta: but maintaining packages is what debian developers do |
| 11:56.42 | valdyn | careta: ( though not necessarily exlusively ) |
| 11:56.49 | netherthoughts | nsadmin, can you tell me how to completely remove apache ? |
| 11:56.53 | wols_ | valdyn: debian maintainers don't vote either afaik |
| 11:57.07 | wols_ | netherthoughts: apache2.2-common |
| 11:57.21 | valdyn | wols_: ah, nice wiki page |
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| 11:58.09 | valdyn | careta: forget what i said, just read the wiki page |
| 11:58.14 | careta | how do i adopt a package that has been orphaned and its maintainer missing? |
| 11:58.32 | netherthoughts | wols_ thx |
| 11:58.51 | wols_ | !nmg |
| 11:58.51 | dpkg | The New Maintainer's Guide (http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/), Developer's Reference and Policy document how packages should be made and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <policy>, <best practices> or see http://www.debian.org/devel/ http://women.debian.org/wiki/English/BuildingWithoutHelper |
| 11:58.56 | valdyn | careta: get a sponsor or read the wiki page and the links there |
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| 11:59.51 | valdyn | ah, the maintainer thing is rather new ( 2007 ) |
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| 12:03.37 | dutchfish | hi, can someone explain to me why rar in non-free is missing in amd64 for quiet some time? https://buildd.debian.org/build.php?arch=amd64&pkg=rar&ver=2:3.9.3-1 |
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| 12:04.17 | nsadmin | netherthoughts try aptitude remove apache |
| 12:04.37 | nsadmin | (how did you install it exactly?) |
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| 12:05.28 | lk | netherthoughts, nsadmin, why not purge? |
| 12:06.15 | nsadmin | well that's true... but I still want to know how he installed it |
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| 12:11.13 | wols_ | nsadmin: what is this "apache" package you speak of? |
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| 12:12.43 | lk | The Island's a decent film, btw. Can't place a finger on how I never heard of it till yesterday.... |
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| 12:17.34 | chessboxing | hi, I just tested Sftp , but I only can use root login. And not my virtual users setup in vsftpd, any idea? |
| 12:17.53 | nsadmin | 5ftps? |
| 12:18.22 | lk | That's a letter. |
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| 12:18.42 | ham5 | as in snake |
| 12:19.17 | nsadmin | oh I can't even tell the differnce anymore! |
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| 12:19.44 | lk | Get some rest =P |
| 12:19.50 | chessboxing | nsadmin: S=s its not 5 |
| 12:19.51 | nsadmin | chessboxing: so from/to what machine, some kind of handles |
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| 12:20.21 | nsadmin | like, you sftpd from machine chess to machine boxing |
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| 12:20.31 | nsadmin | or something we can use to name them |
| 12:20.59 | lk | Wait, sftp would require a local user, wouldn't it? Otherwise it's just ftps, no? |
| 12:21.28 | chessboxing | nsadmin: dedicated server has sshd running. I, connect to it from my home with filezilla using sftp with root and its passw... |
| 12:21.33 | nsadmin | I'm pretty sure it's more similar to scp |
| 12:22.19 | nsadmin | chessboxing: and ded (for short) is the machine you're trying to sftp to? |
| 12:22.20 | lk | Really? SFTP is basically transferring over SSH, isn't it? It's interactive while SCP isn't. |
| 12:22.55 | nsadmin | lk: yes, I think so... |
| 12:23.14 | chessboxing | nsadmin: yes, but for no confusion, I'm connected. But with "root" and I have multiusers (virutal users mysql database) |
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| 12:24.04 | nsadmin | and what machine are you (presently) sftping from? |
| 12:24.33 | lk | Also, chessboxing, are you able to connect via port 21 at all using the virtual users? |
| 12:24.47 | nsadmin | sftp is port 22 :) |
| 12:25.03 | nsadmin | that is, it's even more like ssh :) |
| 12:25.08 | chessboxing | lk: no. probably the local user will be able to. I'll test it. |
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| 12:25.56 | lk | nsadmin, yep, that's why I asked. If the virtual users can FTP into the machine, then the virtual set up was done right for vsftpd. |
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| 12:26.17 | nsadmin | oic, good thought |
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| 12:27.17 | nsadmin | so, you're saying it could be that this form of virtualization has to be set up for ssh? |
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| 12:28.51 | lk | nsadmin, I don't think that sort of virtualization is possible without making local (i.e., not virtual) users. |
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| 12:33.27 | nsadmin | so, would you say it's harder to set it up for ssh/sftp/scp than for plain (port21) ftp? |
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| 12:34.28 | nsadmin | or at least, the complaint of "only root can log in" is because "only root is a real user" |
| 12:34.46 | lk | Yeah. That would explain why root can SFTP in but not the other users. |
| 12:34.54 | lk | If the other users are virtual, they have only FTP access. |
| 12:35.38 | nsadmin | there must be a pam way to set this up |
| 12:36.13 | lk | nsadmin, re: harder to set up... I think for the secure protocols, the virtual user would have to be a real local user unless it's ftps (ftp w/ SSL or whatever). |
| 12:36.52 | lk | With pam, you'd get the virtual FTP user roster if you use vsftpd. |
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| 12:37.17 | nsadmin | the main thing is he's thinking in the right direction (not wanting to use ftp) |
| 12:38.03 | nsadmin | so setting up these virtual users as real users with their home dir being the upload dir might be the ticket |
| 12:38.47 | lk | I guess, but lol, I don't see what's so wrong with FTP. It's much faster. As long as it's nothing sensitive, he should be fine. |
| 12:39.05 | nsadmin | letrow: yeah, what do you want? |
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| 12:39.36 | nsadmin | lk: mainly there are trust issues |
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| 12:40.47 | lk | If that really applies, then I guess, yeah. I prefer SCP myself =) |
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| 12:41.21 | Medalgod | Hi, nothing in my crontab is executing. It's contents are http://pastebin.com/eTWZeDmE |
| 12:41.52 | lk | Anyway, FTPS would be fine in that case. Not sure how much faster (or slower) it is than ssh/scp/sftp, though. |
| 12:42.06 | nsadmin | I was in a situation where I could trust the "rest of the internet" more than I could trust employees in the lab I was in |
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| 12:42.37 | lk | Dang. |
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| 12:43.29 | lk | Medalgod, whose crontab is that? And how did you create it? (crontab -e or something else?) |
| 12:43.45 | Medalgod | lk crontab -e and its mine |
| 12:43.58 | lk | Mine as in root' |
| 12:44.04 | Medalgod | lk yes root |
| 12:44.04 | lk | s or mine as in your user's? |
| 12:44.06 | lk | Ah, okay. |
| 12:44.22 | nsadmin | so it's crontab -e as root |
| 12:44.28 | Medalgod | yes' |
| 12:44.35 | nsadmin | (as opposed to /etc/crontab) |
| 12:44.55 | Medalgod | no, just ran crontab \-e as root |
| 12:45.06 | Medalgod | withouth the '\' |
| 12:45.26 | lk | Ah. Weird... it without errors for me. |
| 12:45.35 | nsadmin | since you have that saved... |
| 12:45.40 | Medalgod | lk yes it doesnt error |
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| 12:45.52 | nsadmin | try emptying it out and put in a simple echo hello or something |
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| 12:46.07 | lk | Yeah, echo hello > /root/file so you know it happened. |
| 12:46.13 | smhar | greetings |
| 12:46.15 | Medalgod | lk ok |
| 12:46.17 | lk | For an @reboot. |
| 12:46.25 | jelly-home | Medalgod: crontabs for users do NOT have the "user" field |
| 12:46.25 | lk | ACtually. |
| 12:46.37 | jelly-home | Medalgod: only the stuff in /etc/cron.d does |
| 12:47.03 | lk | You might as well just schedule something else... I don't like reboots. |
| 12:47.04 | smhar | I was playing some mp3 on my sqeeze when the program crashed and now I do now have sound, how can I restore the sound without rebooting or logging off? |
| 12:47.27 | Medalgod | jelly-home thankyou |
| 12:47.29 | lindi- | smhar: the program? |
| 12:47.33 | nsadmin | what's ts3? |
| 12:47.42 | Medalgod | nsadmin ts3 is a user |
| 12:47.43 | jelly-home | Medalgod: you want to rtfm crontab(5) |
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| 12:48.02 | nsadmin | try getting rid of that |
| 12:48.13 | lk | Okay, sun is up, time to sleep. |
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| 12:48.38 | lk | gl, Medalgod. Bye everyone. |
| 12:48.44 | Medalgod | ok, so thats got that part of the crontab failing cleared up, how about the @reboot fields? |
| 12:48.56 | smhar | lindi-, I was using amarok which I then killed. it does not work properly now. but that is ok. it will do when I relogin ore reboot.. I think. But I want sound in other programs like vlc |
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| 12:49.04 | lk | Wait, the iptables stuff didn't work? |
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| 12:49.12 | Medalgod | lk yes that didnt work |
| 12:49.24 | lindi- | smhar: pulseaudio? |
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| 12:49.48 | lk | Does it work okay if you paste that iptables command into your shell? |
| 12:50.02 | Medalgod | lk yes |
| 12:50.29 | smhar | lindi-, Daemon already running |
| 12:50.52 | smhar | lindi-, pa_pid_file_create() failed |
| 12:51.04 | lindi- | smhar: hmm, you run pulseaudio? |
| 12:51.07 | lk | lol, maybe put the line into a .sh file, then, and execute that at reboot in that case... if that doesn't work, then somehow the cron is running before iptables started, maybe. |
| 12:51.14 | cahoot | smhar: try alsa force-reload |
| 12:51.35 | Medalgod | @lk didnt think of boot order of cron & iptables, possibly :p |
| 12:52.10 | lk | Well, good luck with it. I've got some sleep to catch =) |
| 12:52.14 | smhar | lindi-, and I should not? |
| 12:52.32 | lindi- | smhar: i was trying to ask if you are using pulseaudio or not |
| 12:52.33 | smhar | cahoot, how? |
| 12:52.55 | cahoot | as typed |
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| 12:53.35 | smhar | cahoot, command not found |
| 12:53.40 | cahoot | as root |
| 12:54.53 | smhar | cahoot, working now.. thanks, but it killed firefox :-( |
| 12:55.05 | lindi- | hmm, it has no manual page |
| 12:55.27 | cahoot | smhar: blame flash |
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| 12:56.35 | courpse | After upgrading linux-image-2.6.32-3-686, my nvidia drivers are broke, when i try to reinstall these drivers, it says it cant compile the nvidia-kernel. |
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| 12:57.05 | stranger_ | cahoot, working now.. thanks, but it killed firefox :-( |
| 12:57.11 | cahoot | smhar: blame flash |
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| 12:57.39 | stranger_ | cahoot, I blame flash |
| 12:57.44 | stranger_ | cahoot, :-) |
| 12:57.46 | cahoot | idem |
| 12:57.50 | courpse | After upgrading linux-image-2.6.32-3-686, my nvidia drivers are broke, when i try to reinstall these drivers, it says it cant compile the nvidia-kernel. |
| 12:58.05 | wols_ | !tell courpse about nvidia squeeze |
| 12:58.22 | wols_ | courpse: there is a reasony people like you are told not to use testing |
| 12:58.49 | courpse | Thanks... |
| 12:59.23 | chessboxing | what is the bloody default way to see if iptables are being used? |
| 12:59.35 | cahoot | iptables -L? |
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| 13:00.30 | chessboxing | cahoot: Are you sure? |
| 13:01.00 | cahoot | chessboxing: well it would list 'active' rules |
| 13:01.31 | chessboxing | cahoot: it indeed displays my active rules. But what is the command to disable and then enable or start restart the iptables? |
| 13:01.36 | wols_ | he is very sure and right too |
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| 13:01.55 | wols_ | there is no easy "disable" for them |
| 13:02.14 | chessboxing | /etc/init.d/iptables restart|stop|start doesn't work |
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| 13:02.24 | wols_ | you can flush your rules and set policies |
| 13:03.13 | chessboxing | can you say how to allow, port range 55050-5510 ? |
| 13:03.25 | chessboxing | for fxp usage thus tcp |
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| 13:04.16 | wols_ | just do nothing. debian doesn't close any ports at all by default. you have to do something to close anything |
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| 13:05.11 | dupondje | what should be the way to use Xen or KVM ? Are they as good in performance ? or ? |
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| 13:06.32 | taras | hi. I'm running lenny. in 2.6.32-bpo.4-amd64 kernel from backports my wifi card doesn't work(realtek 8187b, driver rtl8187) |
| 13:06.38 | taras | what can be the problem? |
| 13:06.49 | wols_ | check your dmesg messages |
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| 13:09.45 | taras | wols_: "rtl8187: wireless switch is off" hmm, previous driver didn't know about the switch |
| 13:10.08 | taras | rebooting |
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| 13:16.55 | marcotouch | !list |
| 13:16.55 | dpkg | marcotouch: VATTENE VIA |
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| 13:22.47 | taras | and what problem is with iptables-save: http://pastebin.com/j4jGVtUz ? kernel now is "2.6.32-bpo.4-amd64" |
| 13:22.50 | Worf | taras: you did install the firmware packages? |
| 13:23.13 | Worf | taras: oh - never mind - that seems to be something different |
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| 13:23.50 | taras | firmware-linux-free? |
| 13:25.46 | dupondje | Somebody knows performance differences between Xen & KVM ? |
| 13:26.01 | Worf | taras: yep - and eventually nonfree too, depending on the hardware |
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| 13:37.44 | aguitel | how install in squeeze googleearth |
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| 13:38.48 | wols_ | !tell aguitel about googleearth |
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| 13:41.10 | auchewet | hi, this is not strictly a debian question (although it involves a debian system) but I hope you know about it from setting up networks: I'm searching for a consumer electronics router that has both a dmz inteface and wifi between two firewalls. I can only find ones with only one DMZ or no information about the wifi part... |
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| 13:45.22 | lerolerolerolero | Alguem sabe |
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| 13:46.03 | johnfg | hi guys |
| 13:46.39 | aguitel | wols_, i need want googleearth in amd64 system |
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| 13:46.52 | johnfg | for some reason my tty7 is locked up with screen saver. |
| 13:47.16 | johnfg | I'm now in tty1. How can I kill restart tty7 so I can use it? |
| 13:47.41 | wols_ | aguitel: then maybe ask google for a 64bit version... |
| 13:48.00 | aguitel | wols_, ok |
| 13:48.01 | wols_ | johnfg: kill the screensaver/X ? |
| 13:48.10 | johnfg | It has to do with kerberos, and my tickets probably expiring. |
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| 13:48.30 | wols_ | kerberos? |
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| 13:48.38 | johnfg | wols_: So what: do a ps -eaf|grep screensaver then kill that process? |
| 13:49.10 | johnfg | wols_: It's the only thing that I can think of that would cause the problem. |
| 13:49.34 | wols_ | it should be pretty clear if a screensaver is engaged or not... |
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| 14:16.37 | aguitel | anyway to install amsn in squeeze ? |
| 14:17.06 | jhutchins | ,versions amsn |
| 14:17.06 | pabs3 | aguitel: apt-get should do it: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=amsn |
| 14:17.07 | judd | amsn -- etch: 0.95+dfsg2-0.3; lenny: 0.97.2~debian-1; sid: 0.98.3-1 |
| 14:17.30 | aguitel | pabs3, no package found for amsn |
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| 14:19.45 | pabs3 | hmm, must have been removed recently |
| 14:19.49 | wols_ | aguitel: as judd showed you that's not true |
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| 14:20.17 | aguitel | wols_, and |
| 14:20.23 | wols_ | and what? |
| 14:20.34 | pabs3 | aguitel: install the sid version until it returns I guess |
| 14:20.36 | aguitel | wols_, how install in squeeze |
| 14:20.48 | wols_ | aguitel: you should know how to do that when you run squeeze |
| 14:20.52 | blackhole | Hi i need to configure my mail server in such a way that it accepts every email whether that email id exist or not .. & deliver them to lets say root@myserver.com for every email what i need to do? |
| 14:21.02 | aguitel | need to add sid repo |
| 14:21.09 | wols_ | blackhole: depends on mailserver |
| 14:21.25 | wols_ | aguitel: you can but don't need to |
| 14:21.28 | blackhole | wols_, I can use any procmail, qmail any .. you can suggest anyone for which you have idea .. |
| 14:21.36 | wols_ | in fact, I#d advise against it |
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| 14:21.58 | wols_ | blackhole: procmaoö is a mailserver? and _every_ general mailserver can do what you want |
| 14:22.10 | chessboxing | I'm ssh to my server, when I would do restart the sshd, will I be able to connect to it after the restart? |
| 14:22.28 | blackhole | wols_, Do i need to make any specific setting for it? |
| 14:22.41 | wols_ | chessboxing: if sshd starts on startup (it normally does) then yes |
| 14:22.52 | wols_ | < wols_> blackhole: depends on mailserver |
| 14:23.03 | blackhole | wols_, Lets say procmail ? |
| 14:23.15 | petemc | blackhole: pick your mailserver (exim4 and postfix are popular) then read up on how to do a 'catch-all' , which is generally considered a bad idea |
| 14:23.16 | wols_ | blackhole: procmail is no MTA and never will be |
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| 14:23.37 | wols_ | blackhole: it's an especially bad idea to redirect the cacthall to root@ |
| 14:23.40 | rudi_s | chessboxing: sshd keeps your current connection. So after the sshd restart you can try to login again (without cutting the current connection!) and check it. |
| 14:23.54 | blackhole | wols_, I have some requirement like email2sms |
| 14:24.04 | wols_ | blackhole: maybe you should learn a first a bit about how a mailserver works. mailservers are very very complicated things |
| 14:24.04 | blackhole | where user can send email like mobile@myserver.com |
| 14:24.07 | chessboxing | rudi_s: ah ok. I'll try that. |
| 14:24.11 | tuv | http://popcon.debian.org times out. is it not active anymore? |
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| 14:24.48 | pabs3 | tuv: see http://lists.debian.org/20100515131749.GA24607@intrepid.palfrader.org |
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| 14:26.40 | gp5st | is there a good music-library program (for mac or linux) that is good at handling the metadata for classical music? itunes just doesn't cut it most of the time |
| 14:27.54 | mazzanet | hmm i'm having a curious issue with 2.6.32 and laptops |
| 14:28.18 | mazzanet | where the keyboard just randomly stops working until a reboot |
| 14:28.28 | mazzanet | doing it on two different laptops now |
| 14:28.42 | tuv | pabs3: oh. of all days, i decided to explore popcon just today! |
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| 14:30.28 | pabs3 | gp5st: GNOME's rhythmbox works for me (for all kinds of music) |
| 14:30.57 | cahoot | gp5st: flacs then or what? |
| 14:31.09 | mazzanet | <3 amarok |
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| 14:31.10 | gp5st | pabs3: i'll have to check out what id tags it supports |
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| 14:31.26 | gp5st | cahoot: i wish, much of it is 320bps mp3 |
| 14:32.37 | gp5st | pabs3: The thing is I want to be able to have conductor, year written, year performed, opus title, movement number/name, things of that nature |
| 14:32.44 | cahoot | gp5st: then I guess metadata isn't the problem ;) |
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| 14:33.41 | gp5st | cahoot: what do you mean? it's why I'm here:-p |
| 14:33.44 | pabs3 | gp5st: doesn't seem to have the ability to display arbitrary columns |
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| 14:38.29 | cinex | does anyone know if I will have trouble with a Radeon HD 4000 Series graphics card under the latest stable release? |
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| 14:47.28 | cinex | [Radeon HD 4350] |
| 14:47.29 | cinex | even |
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| 14:49.33 | vegar_ | i thought exim was the standard local mail server for lenny, but unchecking mail server in tasksel pulled in xmail? |
| 14:49.36 | aguitel | how remove lxde |
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| 14:50.19 | abrotman | how did you install it ? |
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| 14:50.36 | aguitel | abrotman, aptitude install lxde |
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| 14:50.44 | abrotman | so man aptitude |
| 14:50.49 | Dexter6 | hi |
| 14:50.52 | abrotman | aptitude has lovely documentation |
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| 14:52.34 | Dexter6 | how to make proftpd to listen on selected IP or host? |
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| 14:54.07 | cinex | http://www.google.ca/search?q=proftp+listen+on+specific+ip&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a |
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| 14:56.39 | pasky | Hi! What is the current canonical way to enable Ctrl-Alt-Backspace in X? Even DontZap off doesn't seem to work anymore and xserver-xorg does not document any alternative. |
| 14:58.58 | abrotman | !dontzap |
| 14:58.58 | dpkg | To disable termination of your X server via Ctrl+Alt+Backspace in Lenny and Etch, place Option "DontZap" "on" within the ServerFlags section of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, see xorg.conf(5). Squeeze users: server zapping is not enabled by default. To enable, execute "dpkg-reconfigure -pmedium keyboard-configuration" and answer Yes when asked if Ctrl+Alt+Backspace can terminate the X server. |
| 15:00.22 | pasky | hmm, then I'm hitting a different bug I suppose |
| 15:00.40 | pasky | thanks |
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| 15:03.27 | pasky | since I have XKBOPTIONS="grp:caps_switch,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" but Xorg.log still shows (**) Option "xkb_options" "grp:caps_switch" |
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| 15:03.35 | pasky | I suppose I will file a bug against keyboard-configuration |
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| 15:17.12 | jhutchins_lt | pasky: Why not try what dpkg suggested then see how that alters the conf file? |
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| 15:17.53 | wols_ | jhutchins_lt: too easy |
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| 15:22.36 | SparFux | Hi all. Is there a way to have make-kpkg NOT recompile everything of the kernel on an update from git? |
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| 15:26.56 | pasky | jhutchins_lt: sure, that yielded me the terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp |
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| 15:27.04 | pasky | jhutchins_lt: thanks, reminded me i have to file another bug about that ;) |
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| 15:33.20 | LinuS | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:33.42 | cahoot | LinuS: asking in stereo? |
| 15:34.03 | LinuS | is that rude? i didn't know, it isn't usually mentioned on channel topics |
| 15:34.05 | LinuS | i'm sorry anyway |
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| 15:34.22 | LinuS | i figured out after that there must be a #debian channel other the #linux |
| 15:34.36 | LinuS | and that probably #debian is better since i'm using it. sorry :) |
| 15:34.49 | jhutchins_lt | LinuS: Don't sweat it. |
| 15:36.03 | pasky | LinuS: build-essential |
| 15:36.07 | pasky | that should do |
| 15:36.14 | LinuS | allright, thanks |
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| 15:37.07 | jhutchins_lt | LinuS: That's pretty much everything you could possibly need for building software in general. |
| 15:37.20 | jhutchins_lt | LinuS: If you need other stuff, the build process should let you know. |
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| 15:52.07 | The_Eccentric | can any one offer me a good site on seting up an ftp site, on a debian vps , all cli |
| 15:52.10 | The_Eccentric | ? |
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| 15:59.28 | The_Eccentric | guess not |
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| 16:01.02 | quidnunc | Anyone know how to run a single application in a chroot with X11? |
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| 16:01.17 | jhutchins_lt | The_Eccentric: http://tldp.org/LDP/http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html/html/index.html |
| 16:01.21 | quidnunc | I'm having trouble specifying the display as an argument to the chroot command |
| 16:03.00 | jhutchins_lt | The_Eccentric: Sorry, pastbuffer appeasr to be a mess... |
| 16:03.03 | jhutchins_lt | The_Eccentric: http://tldp.org/LDP/http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html/html/index.html |
| 16:03.11 | jhutchins_lt | Ah, my bad |
| 16:03.18 | jhutchins_lt | The_Eccentric: http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html |
| 16:03.19 | The_Eccentric | lol |
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| 16:03.30 | The_Eccentric | jhutchins_lt: well let me make sure im know what im talking abou t |
| 16:03.31 | jhutchins_lt | I've got a keyword expansion set up. |
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| 16:03.51 | The_Eccentric | i want to be able to have web access like an ftp sever |
| 16:04.14 | The_Eccentric | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:04.23 | The_Eccentric | not threw cli |
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| 16:04.59 | xoz | quidnunc: /msg dpkg chrootx |
| 16:05.43 | jhutchins_lt | The_Eccentric: That's entirely up to your browser. |
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| 16:14.08 | quidnunc | xoz: Thanks. It says export DISPLAY=:0.0. I assume that is in the chroot? |
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| 16:15.36 | jhutchins_lt | quidnunc: Try it. |
| 16:16.05 | quidnunc | jhutchins_lt: I have no idea how to set it in the chroot, the standard things I tried did not work and I don't have a shell inside the chroot. |
| 16:16.12 | quidnunc | I'm just running a single command |
| 16:16.18 | quidnunc | executable* |
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| 16:17.56 | quidnunc | chroot /mychroot DISPLAY=:0.0 myexec doesn't work |
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| 16:18.03 | alexanderk | hello |
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| 16:18.31 | alexanderk | i search for a beat detection algorithm |
| 16:18.32 | quidnunc | because it tries to run the command DISPLAY=:0.0 |
| 16:19.17 | alexanderk | something like the abyssmedia bpm counter, but freeware with source |
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| 16:25.19 | vida | The Linux kernel patches have to be applied in order or can I apply first the number 3 and then the number 2? |
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| 16:27.28 | Worf | vida: depends on if they patch independent things or not. the debian kernel doesn't do for you? |
| 16:27.28 | oznt | hi guys, does someone here knows how to use shotwell for publishing photos on flickr ? |
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| 16:29.09 | arrenlex | Does anyone run radeon on testing? I don't know what I updated but suddenly I don't have dri anymore. |
| 16:30.22 | arrenlex | Or I should say, acceleration. Software rasterizer. |
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| 16:30.44 | vida | thanks Worf, I see they have be applied in order |
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| 16:37.04 | The_Eccentric | hey |
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| 16:46.15 | JyZyXEL | how do you check the capacity of a block device? |
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| 16:49.31 | \amethyst | JyZyXEL: /proc/partitions perhaps |
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| 16:50.53 | \amethyst | JyZyXEL: I *believe* you can rely on the "blocks" reported there always being 1024 bytes, regardless of the device's actual characteristics, but I'm not 100% sure about that |
| 16:50.54 | JyZyXEL | !block |
| 16:52.25 | \amethyst | JyZyXEL: of course the reported size doesn't take into account any kind of filesystem overhead (or even whether or not a fs is present) |
| 16:52.35 | JyZyXEL | of course |
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| 16:55.39 | chessboxing | How do you go to the end of a document in nano or using cat because I have to go all to the end of a big log file? |
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| 16:56.10 | MeglaW | tail -n 1 filename gives you the last line of the file filename |
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| 16:59.34 | chessboxing | MeglaW: I need to scroll then because its somewhere at the bottom of my file... |
| 17:02.17 | gernot | chessboxing, you could open it with less and jump to the bottom with G (vi key bindings) |
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| 17:13.52 | cristi8 | hey.. anyone knows how long (in days) is generally taken between a new version of pidgin and the package in backports? |
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| 17:16.49 | geograsX | how are you |
| 17:17.03 | geograsX | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:17.16 | wols_ | ddddd!luk |
| 17:17.21 | wols_ | !luks |
| 17:17.21 | dpkg | LUKS: Linux Unified Key Setup, a disk encryption specification with a platform-independent format. For more information, see http://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup/ , http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/469 and google 'LUKS Debian'. To access on win32 platforms, see http://freeotfe.org/ and ask me about <ext2fsd>. |
| 17:18.53 | geograsX | thx |
| 17:19.05 | LowRider | Brand New!!Notebooks and LCD TVs.Discounts up to 30%.Our Special Limited Time Offers Up To May, 22. The newest electronics only http://www.elplace.com |
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| 17:19.47 | geograsX | thank for helping.. |
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| 17:22.20 | Petrov | has anyone experience with kvm? |
| 17:22.50 | gartt | Wow, LowRider's covering some serious ground. I've seen him even on different servers today |
| 17:23.14 | arrenlex | Petrov: Just ask your actual question... if anyone knows they will answer |
| 17:23.26 | gartt | Petrov: A KVM switch? I have one downstairs |
| 17:23.46 | gartt | Or the VM? |
| 17:23.54 | Petrov | the VM :p |
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| 17:27.35 | cafaro | Hi, I just did upgraded to squeeze from a fresh lenny installation, and somehow X isn't starting automatically, any ideas? |
| 17:27.42 | cafaro | -did |
| 17:28.27 | arrenlex | cafaro: Does it launch when you run 'startx'? |
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| 17:28.43 | Ariel_Calzada | cafaro: did u restarted after upgrade? |
| 17:28.49 | cafaro | arrenlex: Yes it does, however I got a black screen |
| 17:28.51 | cafaro | Ariel_Calzada: yes |
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| 17:29.09 | arrenlex | cafaro: What card? |
| 17:29.16 | Ariel_Calzada | cafaro: what's the driver of the video card? |
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| 17:30.14 | cafaro | arrenlex: ATI Mobility HD3650, I get an acceleration error by radeon (had the same error with lenny, and it ran fine), and a glidepoint synaptics error, which shouldn't prevent X from starting..? |
| 17:30.21 | cafaro | Ariel_Calzada: radeon |
| 17:31.09 | cafaro | The black screen was my 2nd question, firstly I find it weird why X isn't starting automatically, as I did not use single-mode afaik |
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| 17:31.35 | amphi | cafaro: what kernel? |
| 17:31.42 | arrenlex | cafaro: Which display manager are you using? (gdm\kdm\xdm...) |
| 17:31.49 | Ariel_Calzada | cafaro: maybe it isn't startint automatically because of the card problem |
| 17:32.00 | cafaro | amphi: 2.6.32-3 |
| 17:32.04 | cafaro | arrenlex: gdm |
| 17:32.14 | cafaro | yeah most likeley |
| 17:32.17 | cafaro | likely* |
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| 17:32.28 | Ariel_Calzada | cafaro: lspci | grep Video |
| 17:32.44 | cafaro | Ariel_Calzada: returns nothing |
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| 17:33.27 | Ariel_Calzada | cafaro: sorry lspci | grep Display |
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| 17:33.30 | cafaro | Ariel_Calzada: I did not install any driver yet, but I presume X should work without having to install the xserver radeon package (as it did with lenny) |
| 17:34.03 | wols_ | cafaro: if you install xorg, the radeon package is installed too |
| 17:34.08 | arrenlex | cafaro: If you don't install the xserver-xorg-video-radeon driver, then you cannot use the xserver-xorg-video-radeon driver. :) |
| 17:34.17 | arrenlex | cafaro: Is it already there? |
| 17:34.20 | cafaro | Ariel_Calzada: returns nothing again |
| 17:34.22 | arrenlex | cafaro: How about 'grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log' ? |
| 17:34.24 | Ariel_Calzada | cafaro: i'm not sure |
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| 17:34.39 | wols_ | cafaro: lspci -nn |grep VGA usually |
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| 17:34.49 | wols_ | but you already know what videocard you have... |
| 17:35.02 | cafaro | arrenlex: glidepoint and radeon accel error |
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| 17:35.21 | wols_ | cafaro: do you think we are clairvoyant? |
| 17:35.31 | cafaro | wols_: I already told I had an HD3650 |
| 17:35.38 | wols_ | cafaro: do you think we are clairvoyant? |
| 17:35.54 | cafaro | wols_: VGA compatible controlle ATI technologies Mobility Radeon HD3650 |
| 17:36.12 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:36.35 | wols_ | you aren't here the first day... |
| 17:36.37 | arrenlex | wols_: What do you mean, sorry? |
| 17:36.56 | wols_ | I mean his problem description is worth jack shit and no one can help him based on that |
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| 17:37.05 | wols_ | and he should know better |
| 17:37.08 | cafaro | wols_: Sorry i thought you needed to know my card |
| 17:37.20 | arrenlex | wols_: Nah, glidepoint isn't relevant, and radeon accel isn't working. Which is interesting but not relevant. |
| 17:37.21 | cafaro | wols_: just a sec I'll try to pastebin the entire xorg.log |
| 17:37.47 | wols_ | !saturday |
| 17:37.47 | dpkg | hmm... saturday is Tardsday Eve |
| 17:37.49 | arrenlex | wols_: So his description so far is 'blank screen, X doesn't start automatically, and there's no relevant errors about it in Xorg.log' which is fine as far as I see. |
| 17:37.51 | wols_ | amen |
| 17:38.26 | arrenlex | cafaro: brb in 15... sorry |
| 17:38.30 | cafaro | arrenlex: just a Q |
| 17:38.46 | cafaro | arrenlex: Do I have to specify radeon as driver in xorg.conf, or is that detected automatically? |
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| 17:39.18 | cafaro | wols_: here's the entire output of my xorg.log: http://pastebin.com/me16LX4W |
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| 17:39.57 | cafaro | also got: (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory |
| 17:40.05 | cafaro | not sure if that's anything useful |
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| 17:44.36 | peterrooney | cafaro: usually xorg is very good about choosing correct driver; it looks like yours is detecting radeon and using the correct driver. the errors (EE) seem related to your touchpad. |
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| 17:46.36 | cafaro | peterrooney: Ok, but will X not give me a right screen, if the touchpad isn't working properly..? |
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| 17:49.03 | intx | for LocalForward in openssh, is it possible to bind to a specific address on the remote machine? |
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| 17:50.30 | wols_ | cafaro: have you installed firmware-linux-nonfree ? |
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| 17:57.31 | arrenlex | cafaro: You could also try showing this log to #radeon; perhaps they can see why it isn't working for you. |
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| 18:00.40 | venom00 | hello, is debian unstable safe enough for an home file-/print-server accessible from internet? |
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| 18:03.50 | xingu | cafaro: what happens if you hit the notebook's hotkey to toggle between external display and panel? :) |
| 18:04.11 | cafaro | wols_: No |
| 18:04.20 | xingu | cafaro: ie, is it simply putting your display on the vga-out port rather than lvds panel or vice versa? |
| 18:04.28 | cafaro | wols_: that's necessary for radeon to function? |
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| 18:05.46 | cafaro | xingu: I'm not sure what you mean by that |
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| 18:06.33 | xingu | cafaro: your notebook probably has a fn-something key sequence to toggle the output to either vga-only, panel-only, vga+panel (mirrored), and vga+panel (separate) |
| 18:07.05 | cafaro | xingu: yeah I think it's fn f5 |
| 18:07.22 | cafaro | xingu: and nothing much happens when I press it a f ew times |
| 18:07.45 | epsilon | can anyone recommend me an 802.11n wifi usb stick for lenny? |
| 18:08.00 | xingu | cafaro: it was just a thought, I can see x11 is aware of both display outputs |
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| 18:08.51 | wols_ | venom00: no |
| 18:09.31 | wols_ | cafaro: you should know that when you want to run testing. or at least investigate if people suggest it to you |
| 18:11.45 | venom00 | wols_, i'm a developer and most probably I'll need some very recent package (specially from the mono project), moreover I've a broadcom wireless adapter, so I'm wondering if testing is enough for me |
| 18:11.58 | venom00 | wols_, what do you think? |
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| 18:12.36 | wols_ | you NEED? |
| 18:13.04 | wols_ | venom00: WHICH broadcom wireless adapter? |
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| 18:13.50 | venom00 | wols_, most probably, I'm always interested in the latest versions of mono and monodevelop, and had a bad experience trying to use them with testing |
| 18:14.23 | venom00 | wols_, don't know, I'm still planning the installation, is there a tool to obtain the PCI-id from Windows? |
| 18:14.35 | wols_ | yes. device manager |
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| 18:15.28 | taras | is people.debian.org down? |
| 18:16.31 | pngwn | taras, seems to be |
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| 18:17.09 | wm4 | ok my /etc/apt/preferences consists of comments only (starting with #) |
| 18:17.19 | wm4 | apt-get says it can't parse /etc/apt/preferences |
| 18:17.29 | wm4 | it worked before I commented out some lines |
| 18:17.45 | wm4 | is the parser for that file just shit, or is there another reason? |
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| 18:18.21 | arrenlex | wm4: I don't know if this has changed, but for the longest time, the preferences file didn't allow comments. |
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| 18:18.50 | venom00 | wols_, "14e4:4320 supported BCM4306/2 b/g G b43legacy" from http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 |
| 18:19.20 | wols_ | ,pciid 14e4:4320 |
| 18:19.21 | judd | [14e4:4320] is 'BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with kernel module 'ssb' in lenny. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=14e4:4320 |
| 18:19.28 | wm4 | arrenlex: and what if I want to disable something temporarily? |
| 18:19.57 | wm4 | it also usually doesn't complain about lines starting with # |
| 18:21.02 | venom00 | wols_, ok that's my broadcom chipset BCM4306/2, I should use b43legacy, it testing right for that or is it too old? |
| 18:21.46 | wols_ | you should not use b43legacy. read more carefully |
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| 18:23.30 | arrenlex | wm4: What version of apt do you have? |
| 18:23.46 | wm4 | arrenlex: apt 0.7.25.3 for i386 compiled on Feb 1 2010 20:51:03 |
| 18:23.58 | venom00 | wols_, "installing the b43-fwcutter package will handle everything for you", is testing recent enough? :P ok, I'll stop asking and start to try |
| 18:24.18 | wols_ | venom00: I strongly, very strongly suggest you use stable |
| 18:24.28 | wols_ | tip: lenny is stable currently |
| 18:24.29 | arrenlex | wm4: Nevermind --- that version understands comments. Dunno then. "grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/preferences" returns a completely empty file? |
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| 18:24.49 | wm4 | arrenlex: yes |
| 18:24.58 | venom00 | wols_, stable most probably will have mono 0.1 or something similar |
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| 18:25.20 | arrenlex | wm4: *shrug* move it out of the way I guess. File a bug. |
| 18:25.35 | wm4 | arrenlex: ok... thanks |
| 18:25.56 | KaffeeJunky123 | is there a 32bit aoss package for debian lenny, or do I have to build the aoss stuff myself? |
| 18:26.07 | KaffeeJunky123 | for debian lenny amd64 ^^ |
| 18:26.28 | arrenlex | KaffeeJunky123: I think it's called alsa-oss |
| 18:27.10 | KaffeeJunky123 | arrenlex: it does only contain the amd64 binarys of the aoss library |
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| 18:27.44 | KaffeeJunky123 | arrenlex: and I need some x86 binaries for teamspeak |
| 18:28.08 | venom00 | wols_, mono 1.9.1 (stable) vs 2.4 (testing and unstable), I'll try with testing |
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| 18:28.14 | venom00 | wols_, thanks, bye |
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| 18:41.13 | pakos | hi ;o |
| 18:41.21 | pakos | erm i have lame question -.- |
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| 18:41.38 | abrotman | just ask |
| 18:41.39 | arrenlex | KaffeeJunky123: You can download the i386 version of that package and extract the binaries from there, I suppose, or build it yourself. |
| 18:41.43 | pakos | i'm making a update and there is a message about xorg |
| 18:41.58 | pakos | i guess i should press something but dunno what -.- |
| 18:42.02 | KaffeeJunky123 | arrenlex: probably |
| 18:43.13 | wols_ | pakos: we're not very good at reading minds or reading screens that are thousands of miles away |
| 18:43.30 | pakos | heh ok hold on |
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| 18:45.31 | pakos | http://wstaw.org/m/2010/05/15/2010-05-15-204428_402x290_scrot.png |
| 18:45.33 | pakos | -.- |
| 18:46.12 | abrotman | pakos: do you use mach64? |
| 18:46.19 | pakos | no |
| 18:46.25 | pakos | but its not the point |
| 18:46.38 | pakos | i just wanna continue update |
| 18:47.02 | wols_ | so why can't you? |
| 18:47.17 | pakos | because dunno what to press now? |
| 18:47.33 | aw84 | esc end :q :) |
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| 18:47.49 | wols_ | preferably :q! |
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| 18:48.30 | aw84 | it looks like vi |
| 18:48.33 | pakos | huh aw84 you're right |
| 18:48.36 | pakos | txh |
| 18:48.44 | aw84 | :D |
| 18:48.46 | pakos | i'm always confused on taht -.- |
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| 18:49.08 | wols_ | pakos: how about using an editor you understand? like say, nano? |
| 18:49.17 | KaffeeJunky123 | vim |
| 18:49.19 | KaffeeJunky123 | ftw |
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| 18:49.40 | wols_ | you don't suggest vim to a user who can't exit vi... |
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| 18:50.00 | zleap | :q |
| 18:50.30 | wols_ | zleap: wrong window. unless vi got emacsitis and now has a irc client built in... |
| 18:51.01 | zleap | ohh emacs has a built in irc client |
| 18:51.21 | zleap | is that along with tetris, some sort of psycologist and er sokoban |
| 18:51.23 | wols_ | it has a built in kitchen sink, an irc client is easy to fit under it |
| 18:51.29 | zleap | lol |
| 18:51.44 | zleap | i thought emacs was classed as an Operating system |
| 18:51.49 | zleap | in a joking way |
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| 19:02.23 | lindi- | it lacks multitasking |
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| 19:07.57 | blub_ | Hi Debian users, is it possible to find installed apps which belong to a specific repository? |
| 19:08.38 | petemc | blub_: /msg dpkg which repo |
| 19:08.40 | wols_ | no since the repository doesn't need to have the installed packages anymore |
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| 19:10.44 | blub_ | well I want to list all my apps comming from a testing repo, is there any way to do this (despite the package is still in the repo or not?) |
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| 19:11.39 | abrotman | blub_: did oyu msg the bot yet? |
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| 19:12.42 | blub_ | ouups, sry, did't notice the /msg ;-) |
| 19:12.44 | blub_ | thanks |
| 19:15.57 | XThief | i want to install debian 64 bits, what iso would i have to get, amd64 or ia64?? |
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| 19:16.31 | GNU\colossus | XThief: if your CPU is x86 compatible, go for amd64. |
| 19:16.46 | GNU\colossus | XThief: if you have an Itanium box (which is highly unlikely), go for ia64. |
| 19:16.59 | XThief | i have an imac |
| 19:17.05 | XThief | thats x86 compatible, right? |
| 19:17.19 | GNU\colossus | yes. |
| 19:17.54 | XThief | GNU\colossus: thank you, i thought amd was only for amd computers |
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| 19:18.39 | \amethyst | XThief: nope; it's called amd64 because AMD invented the instruction set and Intel more or less cloned it |
| 19:18.45 | GNU\colossus | XThief: nope. x86_64's long mode was developed by AMD, and licensed by Intel. |
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| 19:18.52 | \amethyst | XThief: the same way i386 is for both Intel and AMD 32-bit |
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| 19:19.05 | GNU\colossus | that's why, in GNU/Linux land, most distros refer to the architecture by "amd64" |
| 19:19.25 | XThief | Wow you really know all this, so much information, got it, thank you both! |
| 19:20.24 | XThief | just one more question, if i want it for a server, best would be to get the netinst, só i have a clean install? |
| 19:20.34 | XThief | better* |
| 19:20.53 | wols_ | XThief: it's the same installer everywhere |
| 19:20.55 | nsadmin | wouldn't be any different as far as your choices are concerned |
| 19:21.18 | XThief | but its only 180 MB |
| 19:21.25 | wols_ | and? |
| 19:21.42 | nsadmin | the netinst is just the base |
| 19:21.51 | XThief | oh good |
| 19:21.55 | XThief | thats what i was looking for |
| 19:22.05 | XThief | thx :D |
| 19:22.21 | nsadmin | packages can come from a lot of places |
| 19:22.58 | nsadmin | what kind of server are you doing and about how many people will it serve? |
| 19:23.39 | XThief | i just wanted to test openvpn in a virtual machine |
| 19:24.01 | lilib | what is the best upnp media stream server? |
| 19:24.04 | blub_ | what does it mean, when the command from "/msg dpkg which repo" returns "/var/lib/dpkg/status" instead of a repository URL? |
| 19:24.15 | nsadmin | oh, if you're just testing, then partitioning like a server is optional |
| 19:24.24 | abrotman | blub_: you installed it locally? |
| 19:24.35 | XThief | nsadmin: depending on the people i want to server, i have to get another installer? |
| 19:25.03 | blub_ | abrotman: well, I am shure I didn't |
| 19:25.11 | nsadmin | no, but early decisions need to be made about how you will partition the disk |
| 19:25.25 | nsadmin | you might want to go with LVM |
| 19:25.28 | abrotman | okay |
| 19:25.53 | XThief | nsadmin: its LVM the default one? |
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| 19:26.48 | blub__ | abrotman: sorry I lost WLAN connection |
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| 19:28.37 | blub__ | ah, it might be from a removed or disabled repository |
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| 19:29.42 | nsadmin | lvm is not default, no.. you'd have to set it up. |
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| 19:30.32 | XThief | nsadmin: just asked me if i wanted LVM |
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| 19:30.41 | XThief | nsadmin: i put without LVM |
| 19:30.57 | XThief | nsadmin: as i dont know what it is |
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| 19:32.11 | nsadmin | that's probably reasonable... so if this is a test installation and you'll do a server as a wipe/reinstall, learn what lvm is and what it does |
| 19:32.36 | XThief | nsadmin: yes, just a test |
| 19:32.42 | nsadmin | I don't have time to explain it to you anyway, so just as well |
| 19:32.52 | XThief | nsadmin: i was reading about LVM on wikipedia, but dont really understand |
| 19:32.59 | XThief | nsadmin: dont worry |
| 19:33.26 | nsadmin | what, me? worry?? :) |
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| 19:33.42 | XThief | nsadmin: just saying... hehe |
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| 19:39.54 | AlienDK | Why doesn't Debian's BT tracker let me seed Debian after I have downloaded it? |
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| 19:40.05 | K1ng\\\ | http://atheme.k1ngdom.net <= does it work for anyone? |
| 19:40.15 | AlienDK | I get a login page |
| 19:40.17 | XThief | yes |
| 19:40.25 | AlienDK | so yes :) |
| 19:40.29 | K1ng\\\ | atheme? |
| 19:40.34 | XThief | yep |
| 19:40.36 | AlienDK | yup |
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| 19:41.00 | K1ng\\\ | thanks :D |
| 19:41.05 | AlienDK | np |
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| 19:42.19 | arrenlex | Bit of a weird issue... I upgraded a package to unstable. This included a new file which caused everything to break. However, when I downgraded back to testing, that breaky file was not removed! So the old version found it and also broke. Why was that new file not deleted on downgrade? |
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| 19:43.12 | lindi- | arrenlex: can you be bit more specific? |
| 19:43.47 | abrotman | arrenlex: because downgrades aren't supported |
| 19:44.39 | arrenlex | abrotman: If I removed the new version of the package, would that file be deleted? |
| 19:44.56 | abrotman | arrenlex: depends on the package and how it was setup |
| 19:45.01 | lindi- | arrenlex: maybe it was a conffile |
| 19:45.07 | lindi- | arrenlex: you are not exactly giving details here |
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| 19:45.10 | arrenlex | lindi-, abrotman: xserver-xorg-video-radeon in unstable ships with a new file in modprobe.d which enables kms. But the kernel in testing can't handle kms. |
| 19:45.12 | abrotman | there are some files that don't really belong to a package |
| 19:45.18 | lindi- | arrenlex: sounds like a conffile |
| 19:45.24 | arrenlex | So the result is that there is no 3D acceleration with a completely unrelated error message. |
| 19:45.26 | abrotman | arrenlex: yeah, that wasn't a good idea |
| 19:45.46 | arrenlex | But when I downgraded back to the testing version, that file wasn't removed. So the version in testing also tried to use kms, exploded, etc. |
| 19:46.48 | lindi- | arrenlex: configuration files are not removed on package removal |
| 19:46.54 | lindi- | arrenlex: purging the package should help |
| 19:47.09 | arrenlex | lindi-: How does the package know what's a conf file and what's not? |
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| 19:47.22 | abrotman | arrenlex: /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 19:47.30 | arrenlex | Ah, I see. Hmm. |
| 19:47.32 | arrenlex | Thanks. |
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| 20:05.19 | o2T7 | Hello all :) |
| 20:05.52 | bodom | May someone link me a good article on how to set up and handle a personal ssl certification authority? |
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| 20:06.09 | abrotman | your own CA ? |
| 20:06.22 | abrotman | !rootca |
| 20:06.22 | dpkg | well, rootca is How can I create and use my own Certificate Authority CA See document: http://www.modssl.org/docs/2.8/ssl_faq.html#cert-ownca |
| 20:06.46 | bodom | abrotman: thank you |
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| 20:08.05 | o2T7 | I'm having problems for installing 5.04 on a eTC2300 and a eTC3300. On both devices the installer keep searching for hard disks (indeed installer is in a CF card) until 94% and then reset and begins on 0% again, getting into an endless loop. Do you know if I could avoid this situation with some kernel boot flag or anything? |
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| 20:08.50 | oznt_ | hi guys - I have a general question about debian live on a usb stick - what I would like to know is if I install packages with apt-get, do they stay after I reboot, or debian live from a usb does not write changes to the disk ? |
| 20:09.02 | abrotman | it does not keep the change |
| 20:09.14 | abrotman | !tell o2T7 about kmuto |
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| 20:10.31 | o2T7 | abrotman: I'll try with those brand new kernels :). Thank you. |
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| 20:27.36 | dbbolton | is there a browser like uzbl/vimprobable that does NOT require GTK? |
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| 20:30.12 | nsadmin | it's going to require some kind of toolkit... else it's going to be BIG... |
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| 20:31.06 | dbbolton | i prefer Qt |
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| 20:31.24 | LotusBleu | on debian tesing, nautilus cannot show me a fstab mounted cifs from a xp: shell ls on mounted dir with my user works, konqueror works, nautilus shows nothing no error logs http://paste.debian.net/73443/ |
| 20:31.27 | nsadmin | howbout konq |
| 20:31.31 | dbbolton | i'm also looking for a curses-based text browser to the same tune |
| 20:31.37 | dbbolton | nsadmin: konqueror? |
| 20:31.48 | nsadmin | yeah, I guesss that uses qt |
| 20:32.52 | dbbolton | nsadmin: well, i guess it does have customizable bindings, but it's not modal |
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| 20:34.07 | nsadmin | for curses-based, lynx, links, umm something else... but go to packages.debian.org, and browse thru the web category |
| 20:34.26 | dbbolton | i've tried those. they aren't very vim-like |
| 20:34.43 | LotusBleu | /tesing/testing /a xp/an xp |
| 20:34.56 | nsadmin | vim? vim is an editor, very legacy, very non-modern |
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| 20:35.09 | Aniruddha | hi |
| 20:35.09 | dbbolton | i know what it is |
| 20:35.22 | nsadmin | a browser like that? well good luck :) |
| 20:35.28 | Aniruddha | anyone know how I can completely remove and reinstall a package? |
| 20:35.52 | dbbolton | vimprobable and vimperator are ok, but the prior uses GTK and the later is an iceweasel addon |
| 20:36.02 | dbbolton | Aniruddha: purge |
| 20:36.13 | Aniruddha | I want to reinstall samba with the forst configuration wizard again |
| 20:36.27 | dbbolton | LotusBleu: why do you need to rely on nautilus? |
| 20:36.38 | dbbolton | Aniruddha: aptitude purge packagename |
| 20:36.56 | Aniruddha | dbbolton, thanks, only when I reinstall samba /etc/samba isn't recreated |
| 20:37.02 | LotusBleu | dbbolton, that not the point |
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| 20:37.26 | Aniruddha | and no initial smb.conf is made |
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| 20:39.28 | dbbolton | Aniruddha: look in the man page to see if there is an option to generate one |
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| 20:39.45 | dbbolton | Aniruddha: or check the wiki for one |
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| 20:40.12 | dbbolton | LotusBleu: what is the point then |
| 20:40.45 | LotusBleu | the point is : is it a bug or I'm doing wrong |
| 20:40.54 | LotusBleu | if it is a bug I report it |
| 20:41.15 | Aniruddha | dbbolton, *checking* |
| 20:41.41 | dbbolton | LotusBleu: so check the existing bugs http://bugs.debian.org/ |
| 20:42.52 | dbbolton | Aniruddha: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/using_samba/ch06.html that has enough examples to get you started at least |
| 20:43.26 | Aniruddha | dbbolton, thank I already have a working pdc smb.conf |
| 20:43.38 | dbbolton | i also checked the samba package file list (squeeze) and it does not include any .conf file |
| 20:44.04 | Aniruddha | dbbolton, I didn't find one either |
| 20:44.28 | Aniruddha | the smb.cof is created though during the first time |
| 20:46.23 | j_14 | Hello. I'm unable to create files in /root, I can edit files already there but not create new files or copy them into root's home directory. This is in Sid, how do i fix this? |
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| 20:47.23 | dbbolton | j_14: did you su before trying to create the files |
| 20:47.40 | j_14 | dbbolton: no, im doing it as root |
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| 20:48.29 | j_14 | dbbolton: i mean, yes :) |
| 20:48.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | ls -ld /root? |
| 20:49.18 | dbbolton | j_14: df -h |
| 20:49.35 | j_14 | drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Dec 31 20:20 /root |
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| 20:50.03 | j_14 | dbbolton: plenty of space available |
| 20:50.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | anyway, that would create zero-size files... |
| 20:50.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | could have run out of inodes, but I've never seen that happen... ever |
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| 20:51.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | what error do you get |
| 20:52.25 | j_14 | echo 0 > file |
| 20:52.28 | j_14 | bash: file: Invalid argument |
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| 20:52.50 | Aniruddha | dbbolton, I think I found the solution :) |
| 20:52.57 | j_14 | cp and scp also say invalid argument |
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| 20:53.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's pretty weird |
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| 20:54.28 | Aniruddha | dbbolton, smaba-common is the main package |
| 20:54.37 | j_14 | yeah, and it happens only in /root |
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| 20:55.01 | Aniruddha | purge samba-common removes and reinstalls teh /etc/samba directory |
| 20:55.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | but root is part of / |
| 20:55.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | what filesystem |
| 20:55.22 | Aniruddha | purging samba alone doesn't do much |
| 20:55.32 | Aniruddha | pretty confusing imo |
| 20:55.41 | j_14 | yes, ext2 |
| 20:55.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | lsattr /root |
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| 20:56.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | beats me how you could not now you set that, though |
| 20:56.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | and it would be permission denied iirc |
| 20:57.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | and invalid argument doesn't sound like a filesystem error at all |
| 20:57.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | did you try this with "file" or something else |
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| 20:58.39 | j_14 | lsattr -a /root |
| 20:58.40 | j_14 | ------------------- /root/. |
| 20:59.13 | j_14 | i've tried it with other names, |
| 21:00.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | that doesn't look right... there should be at least *some* attributes, I thought |
| 21:00.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | but I've not used ext* for quite a while |
| 21:01.12 | abrotman | is it full ? |
| 21:01.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, see above |
| 21:01.47 | abrotman | shutdown -rF |
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| 21:02.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | maybe |
| 21:02.24 | abrotman | when he edits the files, can he actually save them ? |
| 21:02.34 | j_14 | abrotman: yes |
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| 21:03.06 | abrotman | i'd force the fsck |
| 21:03.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | the error message is puzzling |
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| 21:03.45 | pngwn | rzeka, why 19 nick changes in the last 50 minutes? |
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| 21:04.06 | rzeka | pngwn, had connection problems. Now should be fine :) |
| 21:04.14 | pngwn | good :) |
| 21:04.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | identity crisis perhaps... |
| 21:04.32 | j_14 | don't know if that matters but that partition started out with ext3, and I dejournaled it |
| 21:05.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | is /root a separate partition? |
| 21:05.19 | j_14 | no |
| 21:05.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | but the same doesn't happen in /? |
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| 21:06.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, fsck isn't a bad idea... I can't think of anything else either (and would have suggested that at this point, too) |
| 21:06.55 | j_14 | nope, it doesnt |
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| 21:10.05 | tuv | which modules should be in an initrd image to have raid and lvm support (volume group not found boot message - root is on lvm on raid10) |
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| 21:10.58 | iruediger | nautilus stopped generating video thumbnails after upgrading to gnome 2.30, does anyone knows how to fix it? |
| 21:11.04 | iruediger | I am using debian testing |
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| 21:13.11 | j_14 | whoa, fdisk did _something_ but it rebooted after printing a lot of output, i only managed to catch something about inodes in /root. |
| 21:13.43 | j_14 | But its fixed. Thank you all. |
| 21:14.22 | tuv | how do i recreate an initrd image with lvm and raid10 support? |
| 21:15.31 | k1ng\ | <3 k1ngdom.net |
| 21:16.36 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:16.55 | wols_ | k1ng\: ^^ |
| 21:16.58 | wols_ | kloeri: sry |
| 21:18.04 | k1ng\ | ? |
| 21:18.28 | LotusBleu | thanks abrotman I reporting |
| 21:18.35 | kloeri | wols_: I'll say! |
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| 21:19.13 | kloeri | wols_: you're right though, I shouldn't spam :) |
| 21:19.40 | wols_ | kloeri: can you educate k1ng\ about the benefits of not spamming please? |
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| 21:22.02 | kloeri | k1ng\: don't advertise your website in random, unrelated channels - people hate the spam/noise and you're not making any friends doing that |
| 21:22.50 | k1ng\ | sorry |
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| 21:39.57 | bodom | Ok, now that I have my OWN CA, how to tell my debian system to trust it? |
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| 21:40.56 | jhutchins_lt | bodom: Debian doesn't care about CA's. |
| 21:41.22 | jhutchins_lt | bodom: Some of the applications packaged with Debian do, and there are ways to use a common pool of information for them, but it's nothing to do with Debian. |
| 21:41.45 | tuv | on a non-standard install (non d-i), i get the message 'volume group not found' on boot. root is on lvm on raid10. i still can chroot to the systme using d-i in rescue mode, which recognizes the root filesystem right away |
| 21:41.56 | eviltoaster | Is it possible to set iptable rule that is always at the bottom? |
| 21:41.59 | tuv | is this an initramfs problem? or what else? |
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| 21:42.10 | bodom | jhutchins_lt: well, ty for puntualizazion, but how to add my CA to the common trusted ool? |
| 21:42.17 | bodom | *pool |
| 21:42.53 | jhutchins_lt | bodom: What applications that use CAs do you have installed? What do you need to use it for? Are you running a webserver? A mailserver? Cryptography? |
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| 21:43.25 | bodom | jhutchins_lt: I'm running a pop3 mail server with ipop3d and fetchmail on my client needs to trust my server |
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| 21:43.53 | \amethyst | jhutchins_lt: I thought it was standard for Debian-packaged software to use /etc/ssl/certs/? |
| 21:44.02 | jhutchins_lt | bodom: Look at the fetchmail doc for where it stores the CA's. |
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| 21:45.02 | bodom | jhutchins_lt: but... what about the common pool? Can't I put my ca.crt there? |
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| 21:46.14 | jhutchins_lt | bodom: Here we go: /usr/share/doc/fetchmail/README.SSL.gz |
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| 21:46.28 | jhutchins_lt | bodom: If that's a place the fetchmail looks for it. |
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| 21:46.43 | \amethyst | bodom: try dropping it in /usr/local/share/ca-certficates and running update-ca-certificates |
| 21:47.02 | \amethyst | bodom: that should make it available at least to at least openssl-using apps |
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| 21:47.37 | jhutchins_lt | bodom: They don't always look in the same tree, as there are different SSL packages available, but OpenSSL is pretty common, and most Debian packages at least link the likely packages to the same dir. Some don't though, so you need to check per-app. |
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| 21:48.48 | Bushmills | eviltoaster: don't -A, bit -I new rules |
| 21:48.51 | Bushmills | but |
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| 21:49.58 | eviltoaster | Bushmills, i figured it out but thanks anyway :) |
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| 21:50.04 | AlienDK | Xfce > You |
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| 21:51.58 | mezod | how can i give a .php file the full path of something? i am trying to execute a system call from a .php giving the whole path but it's like / for the .php is /var/www/ so it never gets to where i want :S |
| 21:52.47 | dondelelcaro | mezod: give it an absolute path. If it starts with /var/www or something it may be running chrooted. |
| 21:52.52 | Bushmills | bodom: consider to use an ip tunnel between server and client, and allow tunnel interface server side. that solves about all authentication or trust matters with one single setup. |
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| 21:53.47 | Bushmills | an SSL based VPN, for example |
| 21:53.53 | bodom | Bushmills: tunnel is not applicable, I need to make also others use this server and distribute them my cert |
| 21:53.59 | mezod | dondelelcaro i am giving the absolute path but it starts with /var/www/ should i change the chroot in php.ini? |
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| 21:55.12 | \amethyst | I wouldn |
| 21:55.14 | \amethyst | err |
| 21:55.58 | \amethyst | I wouldn't say you "should", since it's likely the admin set that up for a reason, but if you want to access things under the real /, you can't do so when you're chrooted |
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| 21:56.20 | jhutchins_lt | mezod: Is the object you're trying to address a URL or a file? |
| 21:56.41 | jhutchins_lt | mezod: Is it accessed through the web server, or through the filesystem? |
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| 21:57.00 | mezod | jhutchins_lt its a system call to execute an application |
| 21:57.30 | jhutchins_lt | mezod: Then it should be a path relative to the root (of the chroot if php is running in a chroot). |
| 21:58.12 | mezod | hmmm i guess i should read about what chroot is |
| 21:58.17 | tuv | i'm dropped to a busybox shell in the initramfs. how do i find out why it can't find my lvm-on-raid10 root? |
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| 21:58.37 | jhutchins_lt | mezod: If you didn't set it up chroot, it probably isn't/ |
| 21:59.35 | mezod | sec |
| 21:59.49 | jhutchins_lt | chroot allows you to set some subfolder of the system as root, without access to any of the higher folders. This can protect the system as a whole if the program has the ability to exceute code |
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| 22:00.41 | mezod | jhutchins_lt to set that for a user you mean |
| 22:00.51 | tuv | cat /proc/modules shows dm_mod, but there aren't any that look like *md* |
| 22:00.55 | mezod | i should change www-data chroot to the real / |
| 22:01.00 | mezod | isnt it? |
| 22:01.16 | jhutchins_lt | mezod: Usually it's used for a service (say FTP) that other users can access, not on a per-user basis. |
| 22:01.58 | jhutchins_lt | mezod: If the object is within www-data, are you sure it's being called directly and not through the webserver? |
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| 22:03.11 | mezod | jhutchins_lt i dont know, its a system call i define on the .php code using shell_exec, it works for ls and rm of the /var/www/project/ but not over that |
| 22:03.14 | lk | tuv, what's in /dev/mapper? |
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| 22:05.13 | GNU\colossus | hmmm |
| 22:05.42 | GNU\colossus | cron seems to have problems setting its locale properly. is there any place where I can influence that? |
| 22:05.53 | GNU\colossus | the system's default locale is correctly set |
| 22:06.17 | GNU\colossus | my webalizer cronjob however reports: "Webalizer V2.01-10 (Linux 2.6.26-2-xen-amd64) locale: (null)" |
| 22:06.22 | bodom | \amethyst, jhutchins_lt: Solved! I've put my certificate in /usr/local/share/ca-certificates, made a symlink on /etc/ssl/certs, ran update-ca-certificates and c_rehash |
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| 22:06.55 | lk | GNU\colossus, did you try reconfiguring locales? |
| 22:07.00 | \amethyst | bodom: you shouldn't need to make the link yourself, that's what update-ca-certificates is for |
| 22:07.05 | GNU\colossus | lk: yup; been there, done that |
| 22:08.03 | lk | And you get no errors when installing packages? |
| 22:08.17 | GNU\colossus | no. my cron-jobs run into problems. |
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| 22:08.33 | bodom | \amethyst: so, for some reason, it failed to do it automagically |
| 22:08.51 | tuv | lk: /dev/mapper/control - only |
| 22:08.52 | \amethyst | bodom: hm |
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| 22:09.19 | tuv | lk: that's in the initramfs busybox shell |
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| 22:09.47 | \amethyst | bodom: does the name of the file under /usr/local/share/ca-certificates/ end in '.crt' ? |
| 22:10.11 | lk | GNU\colossus, could you try putting "LANG=en_US.UTF-8" into /etc/environment? |
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| 22:10.22 | bodom | \amethyst: no, it's .pem |
| 22:10.25 | lk | Or whatever your locale should be. |
| 22:10.33 | \amethyst | bodom: ah, that's why |
| 22:10.39 | \amethyst | bodom: it only looks for .crt files |
| 22:10.45 | lk | tuv, can you do a pvscan at all from there? |
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| 22:10.53 | \amethyst | bodom: if you rename it, just update-ca-certs should do the job |
| 22:11.02 | bodom | \amethyst: is pem a wrong extension for a root CA cert? |
| 22:11.08 | \amethyst | err, update-ca-certificates |
| 22:11.21 | \amethyst | bodom: it's not that it's wrong, just not what update-ca-certificates looks for |
| 22:11.27 | mezod | jhutchins_lt where do i define the chroot? |
| 22:11.53 | bodom | \amethyst: mhhh... should I fill a bug report then? |
| 22:11.56 | GNU\colossus | lk: did that. will see if it improves on the situation. |
| 22:12.09 | \amethyst | bodom: perhaps a wishlist bug on the documentation |
| 22:12.40 | tuv | lk: lvm pvscan -> No matching physical volumes found |
| 22:12.43 | \amethyst | bodom: I believe the behaviour is intentional, but the manpage doesn't mention it |
| 22:12.56 | bodom | \amethyst: ok, I'll do :) Btw, I can confir that .crt is detected fine (just tested) |
| 22:13.23 | bleepbloop | I'm trying to edit my SLiM theme: how can I make my background a solid color instead of a picture? |
| 22:13.28 | \amethyst | bodom: the required extension is mentioned in /usr/share/doc/ca-certificates/README.Debian, just not in the manpage |
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| 22:13.59 | bleepbloop | also, if I want to use a font like Liberation Sans, how would I enter it into the configuration file?, 'Liberation_Sans'? |
| 22:14.05 | tuv | lk: which brings me back to the point that there doesn't appear to be any raid modules loaded |
| 22:14.14 | lk | Oh. |
| 22:14.18 | lk | tuv, hm.... how'd you set up LVM? This isn't a fresh install, I take it? |
| 22:14.20 | tuv | lk: lvm-on-raid10 root |
| 22:14.23 | bodom | \amethyst: ty, maybe I'll fill a bug against documentation instead |
| 22:14.37 | tuv | lk: it is a fresh install, but not with d-i |
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| 22:14.52 | tuv | lk: and i can chroot to it using d-i's rescue mode |
| 22:15.25 | lk | That means LVM isn't being loaded in time during boot up. What does fdisk -l say? |
| 22:16.06 | tuv | lk: no fdisk in the initramfs env. |
| 22:16.17 | tuv | lk: but i can describe the layout if it's critical |
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| 22:16.52 | tuv | lk: i can't find any /dev/md* either, so back to the raid issue |
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| 22:19.18 | lk | tuv, did you install mdadm by chance? |
| 22:20.17 | lk | I'm guessing that's how you created the array. |
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| 22:21.56 | tuv | lk: oops. mdadm is not installed! |
| 22:22.20 | lk | Maybe look over this how-to: http://forum.proxmox.com/threads/1061-HOWTO-Move-installation-from-single-disk-to-raid |
| 22:23.35 | djura-san | im off. night. |
| 22:23.51 | tuv | lk: i guess that was it. i saw your comment while mdadm was getting installed. i guess i just never thought the installer i'm using would miss that |
| 22:24.26 | tuv | lk: it's working now. thanks for your time |
| 22:24.33 | lk | Sweet! |
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| 22:30.13 | dimir | ye, nite! |
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| 22:30.53 | rgroid | eek. sorry. phone in pocket. |
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| 22:32.21 | Chymera | hi, do any of you know of any programs which I can use under linux to get high quality graphics - like the ones one would need for scientific publications? I have a few series of measurements and I need something that can calculate variance significance and so on - and integrate that into the graph as an error bar or smth |
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| 22:32.43 | GNU\colossus | Chymera: check out R and gnuplot |
| 22:33.21 | obreiro | Chymera most used solution is gnuplot |
| 22:33.22 | Chymera | already gave gnuplot a try, a tad too hard to get into, and also I wouldn't describe unaliased curves with poor fitting as high quality :-s http://gnuplot.sourceforge.net/demo_4.2/mgr.html |
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| 22:34.05 | dimir | "Linux" and "high quality" in one sentense? You must be on drugs. |
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| 22:35.37 | dondelelcaro | Chymera: R is pretty much what I use |
| 22:35.56 | obreiro | dimir all supecomputers in the world use linux |
| 22:36.00 | dondelelcaro | (about 7 publications using graphics from R directly) |
| 22:36.01 | obreiro | most of servers... |
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| 22:36.13 | obreiro | yes...linux is quality |
| 22:36.33 | dondelelcaro | Chymera: see http://addictedtor.free.fr/graphiques/ for some examples |
| 22:38.02 | tuv | why is the 'defaults' option used in /boot but not / in /etc/fstab created by d-i? |
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| 22:38.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | Chymera, actually, gnuplot is easy to get into, I felt... it's really easy to do simple plots... (it gets hairy when you want special/complicated stuff) - of course, it's *only* plotting, not doing anything with the data |
| 22:38.49 | lk | tuv, For me, everything is at defaults except the CD drive and swap partition. |
| 22:39.00 | eviltoaster | hda: possibly failed opcode: 0xc8 ????? 2.6.32-3-686 |
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| 22:42.25 | \amethyst | CutMeOwnThroat: actually, gnuplot can do data-maniupulation, too |
| 22:42.29 | \amethyst | s/iup/ip/ |
| 22:42.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | Chymera, perhaps look at qtiplot ... there are lots of others, (e.g. ploticus) |
| 22:42.40 | Chymera | dondelelcaro: what do you usually do with it? |
| 22:43.00 | dondelelcaro | Chymera: just about everything, actually |
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| 22:43.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | \amethyst, yes, in a limited sense, I know but it's so limited because that's not what gnuplot actually is supposed to do |
| 22:43.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | and what he asked is definitely something you'd need to calculate in another way, then gnuplot could plot it |
| 22:44.13 | Chymera | dondelelcaro: so is this the R you are talking about http://addictedtor.free.fr/graphiques/ ? |
| 22:44.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's actually some new ones in squeeze that are not in lenny... scidavis and sciplot1 |
| 22:44.35 | dondelelcaro | Chymera: http://www.nature.com/gene/journal/v10/n5/abs/gene200938a.html |
| 22:44.39 | dondelelcaro | Chymera: for example |
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| 22:44.59 | dondelelcaro | Chymera: no, those are just examples of output from R; http://www.r-projects.org is R |
| 22:45.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | R is nice, but I find it difficult to use |
| 22:46.27 | dondelelcaro | it's fairly simple, but it is turing complete |
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| 22:46.54 | \amethyst | the aliasing problems can be avoided by outputting to a vector format; and gnuplot can do Levenburg-Marquarrdt least-squares fitting |
| 22:47.08 | Chymera | dondelelcaro: wow, you're publishing in ature? |
| 22:47.20 | \amethyst | but, yeah, for anything complicated that doesn't fit what is provided, you can use R etc |
| 22:47.45 | dondelelcaro | Chymera: yes |
| 22:47.54 | dondelelcaro | Chymera: or http://www.pnas.org/content/106/15/6256.long if you don't have access to nature |
| 22:48.17 | dondelelcaro | Chymera: http://www.pnas.org/content/106/15/6256/F1.large.jpg for example, too |
| 22:48.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | first authorship, too... some guys have all the luck... |
| 22:49.08 | Chymera | I have access to nature :) |
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| 22:49.23 | Sia- | what is the color of debian logo? |
| 22:49.31 | Chymera | CutMeOwnThroat: how would you know? |
| 22:49.32 | Sia- | i need the name of the color |
| 22:49.54 | dondelelcaro | (though, that's not actually nature; it's genes and immunity, which is a nature imprint) |
| 22:50.54 | \amethyst | Sia-: DebianRed, but that's only in Debian's rgb.txt, not the standard one |
| 22:50.59 | Chymera | dondelelcaro: yeah, I notice, I'm logged into nature but still can't see you paper :-/ |
| 22:51.04 | Chymera | *your |
| 22:51.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | Sia-, #c70036? :) |
| 22:51.38 | Sia- | CutMeOwnThroat, i need the name, not the code |
| 22:51.42 | Sia- | thnx \amethyst |
| 22:52.10 | \amethyst | CutMeOwnThroat: ? |
| 22:52.23 | \amethyst | CutMeOwnThroat: Isn't it #d70751 ? |
| 22:52.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | \amethyst, that's from the image on the website |
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| 22:53.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | you're right, it's different |
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| 22:53.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | http://www.debian.org/logos/openlogo-nd-50.png |
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| 22:54.58 | dondelelcaro | Chymera: but anyway, if you're going to be doing any serious work with statistics and plots, I'd strongly suggest picking up R |
| 22:55.22 | \amethyst | CutMeOwnThroat: hm, you're right |
| 22:55.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | rzekA, are you starting a new 20-nick cycle? |
| 22:55.38 | \amethyst | Sia-: so DebianRed isn't exactly the same color as in the image |
| 22:56.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | \amethyst, perhaps whoever made the image didn't know what color it should be... |
| 22:56.28 | Chymera | dondelelcaro: that's what I'm trying to do atm, but their name choice was quite poor, just try and search the repos for "r" |
| 22:56.36 | dondelelcaro | Chymera: r-base |
| 22:57.10 | Chymera | dondelelcaro: gentoo user, ventured into the realm of other distros just to grab some info :P |
| 22:57.14 | Chymera | anyway, found it :) |
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| 22:57.35 | dondelelcaro | well, you'd almost certainly be advised to switch to Debian... |
| 22:57.53 | Chymera | dondelelcaro: why? |
| 22:58.26 | pflanze | Hello. Wondering: why doesn't apt start installing packages as soon as their files have been downloaded? |
| 22:58.27 | dondelelcaro | Chymera: because we have almost every R module packaged |
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| 22:58.46 | dondelelcaro | pflanze: because it doesn't download them in a particular order |
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| 22:59.09 | pflanze | dondelelcaro: sure? And why wouldn't it? |
| 22:59.13 | TehRabbitt | how can I determine the correct sdX for a USB drive when I plug it in? |
| 22:59.25 | Chymera | dondelelcaro: ok, that's a plus, but if the modules I need are available on gentoo I'll be fine :) |
| 22:59.30 | pflanze | dondelelcaro: it has dependency info, so making a sorted order would be pretty trivial. |
| 22:59.57 | pflanze | dondelelcaro: or more to the point: it has to do a sorted order for the actual install anyway, why not download in the same order? |
| 23:00.08 | TehRabbitt | ?? |
| 23:00.10 | dondelelcaro | pflanze: not when you're talking about a complicated dependency graph; you'd have to split it into segments which are small enough to install by themselves |
| 23:00.23 | dondelelcaro | pflanze: and the install happens in one big chunck (typically) |
| 23:01.15 | pflanze | Not sure why segments. |
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| 23:01.46 | pflanze | You mean, installing a package with it's dependencies has to be 'atomic'. |
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| 23:02.36 | \amethyst | CutMeOwnThroat: hah, just about every different logo on the site uses a different color |
| 23:02.36 | pflanze | dondelelcaro: But why: I can install or upgrade a dependency individually, without upgrading packages that depend on it. |
| 23:02.42 | pflanze | by doing it manually |
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| 23:02.53 | \amethyst | CutMeOwnThroat: the svg version does use DebianRed, but the PNG as you noted does not |
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| 23:04.28 | \amethyst | CutMeOwnThroat: I guess most of the differences are in JPG artifacts, but that doesn't explain the PNG and the SVG using different color |
| 23:06.08 | Chymera | dondelelcaro: is xrced the frontend for R? |
| 23:06.08 | dondelelcaro | Chymera: no. R is the frontend for R |
| 23:06.08 | \amethyst | CutMeOwnThroat: I guess the PNG uses a "web-safe" palette perhaps... it's 8-bit indexed |
| 23:06.08 | dondelelcaro | Chymera: there's also ess or similarly |
| 23:06.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | ? |
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| 23:06.10 | Chymera | ahhhhh, I get that gentoo feeling again, I think it hasn't emerged any frontend |
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| 23:06.57 | dondelelcaro | pflanze: it certainly could be done; I'm just telling you why it's a hard problem, and why it's not something that is a high priority |
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| 23:07.14 | \amethyst | Sia-: in case you weren't following, the SVG and GIMP-format logos use DebianRed (#d70751) but the PNGs use a slightly different color (#c70036) |
| 23:07.29 | dondelelcaro | pflanze: but you don't have to take my word for it; you can always go, check out the code, and write the patch to do it yourself |
| 23:07.45 | pflanze | A hard problem if I could trivially do it manually (or with a script) with the current apt? |
| 23:08.13 | Sia- | \amethyst, i've created theme and want to have the color name like blue or ..etc the code is done |
| 23:08.50 | Chymera | dondelelcaro: what command do you launch your frontend with? it could be possible that it just didn't place a shortcut |
| 23:08.57 | \amethyst | Sia-: well, DebianRed is I believe the "official" color, just be aware that it doesn't exactly match the image on the web site :) |
| 23:08.57 | pflanze | I guess I should ask the question on some mailing list; I don't have the time to code on that myself. |
| 23:09.13 | Sia- | \amethyst, ok thnx alot |
| 23:09.29 | pflanze | So all I can do is make people expect that feature by telling them they are waiting longer for an install than would be necessary ;) |
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| 23:10.21 | dondelelcaro | Chymera: R |
| 23:10.43 | dondelelcaro | pflanze: well, you're going to get the same answer |
| 23:10.58 | pflanze | Yes, but I'd reach a couple more people. |
| 23:11.02 | Chymera | dondelelcaro: and you don't just get a text prompt? |
| 23:11.09 | dondelelcaro | Chymera: of course you do... |
| 23:11.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | \amethyst, web-safe? I've not heard that term for... I can't remember! |
| 23:11.41 | Chymera | I thought this had a gui - at least that's what it looked like on the site? |
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| 23:12.06 | \amethyst | CutMeOwnThroat: since back when people actually used 8bpp video modes :) |
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| 23:12.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | right... and horses were the main mean of transportation |
| 23:12.58 | Chymera | dondelelcaro: damn I didn't click at the screenshots to get a better look :P |
| 23:13.06 | Chymera | *on |
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| 23:13.46 | Chymera | ok, thanks guys, it's about time I start drawing those graphs :) |
| 23:15.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | \amethyst, anyway... isn't this the red smoke that makes electronics work? It's probably got a big octarine component... |
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| 23:17.23 | \amethyst | CutMeOwnThroat: yeah, it's really #d70751ff |
| 23:17.25 | \amethyst | :) |
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