| 00:00.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, 'man aptitude' or /usr/share/doc/aptitude/README should have something on it... |
| 00:00.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | Edgan, but generally, I would think unmarkauto gives you all the control you want... |
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| 00:01.23 | Edgan | Aptitude::Delete-Unused "0"; |
| 00:01.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | wtf? manpage and readme refer to the section ``Managing Automatically Installed Packages'' in the aptitude reference manual |
| 00:01.56 | Edgan | CutMeOwnThroat: I am the sysadmin for a business. I keep having people break their system with autoremove. Just one yesterday and another today. |
| 00:02.15 | Edgan | CutMeOwnThroat: I was looking for auto remove. I later found searching for the word unused |
| 00:02.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | because of custom installs? |
| 00:02.27 | Edgan | CutMeOwnThroat: Different terminology being the issue |
| 00:02.32 | Edgan | CutMeOwnThroat: I had been googling it for a while |
| 00:02.51 | Edgan | CutMeOwnThroat: I suspect meta-packages |
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| 00:03.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | so what the hell is the "aptitude reference manual" if it's not the manpage and not the README file in /usr/share/doc |
| 00:03.16 | prince_jammys | it's a package |
| 00:03.29 | Edgan | CutMeOwnThroat: Apparently the rule is, install meta-package with ten dependencies, uninstall one, and it wants to auto-remove the other nine. |
| 00:03.38 | prince_jammys | aptitude install aptitude-doc |
| 00:03.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | sheesh |
| 00:04.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | -en |
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| 00:05.51 | prince_jammys | handy for learning, and then instantly forgetting, aptitude's wacky search syntax |
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| 00:07.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | Edgan, ah.. yes... I also kind of feel that system is still the fledgling stages... it creates as many problems as it solves :) |
| 00:07.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | prince_jammys, yeah... I wonder who made THAT up |
| 00:07.41 | prince_jammys | i've learnt and instantly forgotten it many times. |
| 00:07.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | possibly LSD or something was involved in its creation :-P |
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| 00:08.53 | prince_jammys | certainly. i suspect PCP |
| 00:09.37 | macrobat | reportbug closed down before i could submit :D |
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| 00:09.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | macrobat, quick, copy /proc/kcore somewhere! |
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| 00:10.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | prince_jammys, or someone went to a 48-hour lisp programming marathon and then had this splendid idea about a new search syntax |
| 00:12.03 | prince_jammys | it's extra fast, since it's often used in the context of cut-n-paste |
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| 00:12.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | the manual? |
| 00:12.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | the forgetting? |
| 00:13.17 | prince_jammys | the ~i.*foo+!!Crazy%shit |
| 00:13.46 | prince_jammys | as in "oh yeah, aptitude knows how to search for this? what's the bot factoid for it again?" |
| 00:13.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | you're missing some question marks in there |
| 00:13.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | hehe |
| 00:14.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | Introduction: "What is this aptitude thing, anyway?" |
| 00:14.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | A question I asked myself many a times |
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| 00:15.37 | prince_jammys | i use the curses u.i. pretty abundantly, yet somewhat ineptly |
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| 00:17.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | and I still prefer apt-cache where you can simply type apt-cache search word1 word2 "oh, but you can get the same behavior with aptitude search ~rword1^&*word2% |
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| 00:18.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | file:///usr/share/doc/aptitude/html/en/ch02s02s07.html |
| 00:19.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's actually not very in-depth |
| 00:20.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | also I don't see why the manpage can't have all the information... (or an info-page if you say it's too much for one page) |
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| 00:20.33 | abrotman | CutMeOwnThroat: it's ~dterm1~dterm2 IIRC |
| 00:20.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | aaaaaaaaaaaah |
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| 00:21.38 | jalalsfs | Hi |
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| 00:22.50 | jalalsfs | I want chose version from debian, What can I choice ? |
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| 00:23.06 | macrobat | i recommend lenny |
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| 00:23.48 | jalalsfs | macrobat: I want 64bit |
| 00:23.59 | jalalsfs | What can I download? |
| 00:24.08 | macrobat | jalalsfs: your processor. is it an x86_64? |
| 00:24.28 | jalalsfs | Theres are tow 64 from debian! |
| 00:24.37 | jalalsfs | macrobat: Yes. |
| 00:24.51 | icebrain | jalalsfs: http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ |
| 00:24.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | the other one is for intel italium processors |
| 00:25.09 | macrobat | the netinstall cd is what i like |
| 00:25.13 | jalalsfs | There are amd64 & ia64? |
| 00:25.41 | icebrain | jalalsfs: yes, but ia64 is Itanium - probably not your case |
| 00:25.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | !ia64 |
| 00:25.47 | dpkg | [ia64] (Intel Architecture-64), a 64-bit processor architecture developed in cooperation by Intel and Hewlett-Packard, implemented by processors such as Itanium and Itanium 2. The goal of Itanium was to produce a "post-RISC era" arch using EPIC. See http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/ -- if your CPU is opteron/athlon64/turion/sempron/xeon/em64t/pentium/core2duo/core*, then it is NOT ia64, it's <amd64>. |
| 00:26.07 | jalalsfs | What that Itanum ? |
| 00:26.28 | jalalsfs | Is it 64bit from intel? |
| 00:26.30 | icebrain | jalalsfs: read above. Basically a different kind of architecture |
| 00:26.50 | icebrain | jalalsfs: Intel used amd64 for their desktop/laptop processors |
| 00:26.57 | icebrain | Itanium was more for server |
| 00:27.07 | jalalsfs | Oh |
| 00:27.26 | jalalsfs | icebrain: Thank you so much. |
| 00:27.36 | macrobat | meh, i have trouble navigating the debian.org website :D |
| 00:27.42 | icebrain | no problem. Btw, the link was wrong. Here: |
| 00:27.46 | icebrain | http://www.debian.org/distrib/ |
| 00:28.22 | jalalsfs | Thank you |
| 00:28.47 | macrobat | i found this http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 00:28.52 | icebrain | jalalsfs: if you have internet connection on your machine (preferably cable), I'd recommend the first option |
| 00:29.07 | jalalsfs | icebrain: Do you use lenny or testing version? |
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| 00:29.53 | icebrain | jalalsfs: neither. But what you should use depends on your level of experience and how much time you're willing to take fixing your computer |
| 00:30.04 | icebrain | jalalsfs: the first time, always choose Lenny |
| 00:30.18 | icebrain | (Lenny = Stable, currently) |
| 00:30.36 | Shadowcat | if you're a complete linux n00b debian might not be the best distro to start out with |
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| 00:31.13 | jalalsfs | Ok. But I want upgrade some packages, like linux-image. |
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| 00:31.24 | icebrain | !BPO |
| 00:31.24 | dpkg | backports.org is a semi-official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://deb.li/bpoi . A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added: "aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update". <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents> <bpo list> <backports-users> |
| 00:31.26 | WormFood | Shadowcat, what do you think is the best distro, if you're a complete Linux noob (one of my complete linux noobs, asked me to install ubuntu on her laptop) |
| 00:31.28 | Shadowcat | why do you want to upgrade the kernel? |
| 00:31.55 | Shadowcat | WormFood: I would recommend ubuntu |
| 00:31.56 | nevyn | jalalsfs: there's a debian "way" to do things like kernel builds.. |
| 00:32.07 | rtronk | hello,i have a vps server running Debian lenny 5.0.3 however my server seems to be germen, how can i make it and american server? |
| 00:32.08 | Shadowcat | but... recommending ubuntu in here might get me burned at the stake, so... |
| 00:32.21 | beardy | For someone not willing or interested to learn anything that's probably a good idea, WormFood. For people only "writing documents" and "surfing the web", watching media. |
| 00:32.24 | abrotman | or at least sent to ##linux |
| 00:32.38 | Shadowcat | If someone truly wants to learn about Linux they should install Ubuntu and break that a few times before moving on to debian |
| 00:32.45 | Shadowcat | debian is primarily a server oriented distro |
| 00:32.50 | abrotman | wrong |
| 00:32.53 | nevyn | ummm |
| 00:32.54 | beardy | Now you're pissing me off.. |
| 00:32.56 | jalalsfs | nevyn: Like what? |
| 00:32.58 | Shadowcat | ok, fine... |
| 00:33.00 | Shadowcat | general distro |
| 00:33.04 | icebrain | Shadowcat: I disagree. Debian is an universal OS, and works fine for Desktop |
| 00:33.09 | Shadowcat | but it runs damn well as a server |
| 00:33.14 | nevyn | I'm using debian on my eeepc with ardour and a rt kernel as a mobile studio |
| 00:33.15 | Shadowcat | icebrain: IF you know what you're doing |
| 00:33.15 | WormFood | you know what I recommend for complete Linux noobs? Whatever the friends that support you are running. :P If you friends run Debian, then your noob friends should run debian....if your experienced friend run redhat (yech!), then your noob friends should run that |
| 00:33.16 | abrotman | runs damn well on a laptop |
| 00:33.24 | icebrain | Shadowcat: I didn't. I've learn |
| 00:33.27 | beardy | Very damn well on anything. |
| 00:33.28 | nevyn | then again I use sid.... |
| 00:33.43 | Shadowcat | getting debian to run well takes TIME |
| 00:33.47 | abrotman | wrong also |
| 00:33.51 | icebrain | Shadowcat: not really |
| 00:34.05 | abrotman | thinks maybe Shadowcat is either impatient or not so good at linux :) |
| 00:34.14 | Shadowcat | !beat abrotman |
| 00:34.14 | dpkg | beats abrotman with a large stick. |
| 00:34.22 | abrotman | anyways .. back to Debian .. |
| 00:34.28 | WormFood | it depends on which branch you're running....sometimes getting testing/unstable working well, can take time, but usually stable is stable |
| 00:34.30 | Shadowcat | abrotman: I had a fun two months trying to get woody to run on my centrino laptop back in the day |
| 00:34.49 | rtronk | how do i save a file in vim |
| 00:34.49 | beardy | Shadowcat: And you didn't learn? |
| 00:34.50 | abrotman | in which day? |
| 00:34.55 | Shadowcat | beardy: yes i did |
| 00:34.56 | WormFood | rtronk, :w |
| 00:34.56 | prince_jammys | rtronk: :w |
| 00:35.09 | Shadowcat | which is why I say that debian might not be the best distro for complete n00bs |
| 00:35.13 | abrotman | Shadowcat: centrino was from like 2007? woody is from like 2001 ? |
| 00:35.17 | WormFood | rtronk, <esc>:w name_of_file.txt |
| 00:35.20 | prince_jammys | or :w filename, or #vim, or vimtutor |
| 00:35.31 | abrotman | woody was 2002 |
| 00:35.48 | Shadowcat | Centrino came in 2003 |
| 00:36.00 | Shadowcat | and back then woody was the most current stable |
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| 00:36.21 | beardy | Everyone is when beginning. Starting with the right thing will only benefit you. Starting with something intended to only be one thing will just limit you. |
| 00:36.21 | Shadowcat | so basically what I had to do was install the developer version of debian to even be able to get onto the internet |
| 00:36.50 | untmdsprt | hello |
| 00:36.54 | icebrain | hi untmdsprt |
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| 00:37.10 | untmdsprt | can debian be installed on a old thinkpad? |
| 00:37.10 | beardy | !rolleyes |
| 00:37.18 | beardy | untmdsprt: Yes. |
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| 00:37.24 | WormFood | untmdsprt, how old? |
| 00:37.35 | WormFood | you mean "old" or "ancient"? |
| 00:37.37 | untmdsprt | 20GB drive/380MB RAM |
| 00:37.42 | abrotman | yes |
| 00:37.43 | WormFood | what model? |
| 00:37.47 | untmdsprt | 800Mhz |
| 00:37.57 | WormFood | yeah, anything with those specs would run Linux just fine |
| 00:38.02 | beardy | That's not old. |
| 00:38.12 | Shadowcat | WormFood: I would always recommend a distro that's easy to learn |
| 00:38.13 | WormFood | beardy, probably about 10 years old |
| 00:38.23 | Shadowcat | but that's because I don't have time to answer 200 questions about bash |
| 00:38.27 | untmdsprt | says Type 2662 |
| 00:38.30 | WormFood | Shadowcat, I would always recommend a distro you can get support on |
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| 00:38.58 | WormFood | untmdsprt, what model? like T20, X30, etc |
| 00:39.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | Shadowcat, so we can just agree a preinstalled distro is the best for a noob? |
| 00:39.28 | Shadowcat | CutMeOwnThroat: we can |
| 00:39.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | and then stable is actually pretty good, because it stays the same for about 2 years |
| 00:39.38 | untmdsprt | X22 |
| 00:39.45 | WormFood | CutMeOwnThroat, that can be good or bad |
| 00:39.49 | Shadowcat | yes, but trying to install stable on newer hardware can be a bitch at times |
| 00:39.54 | WormFood | untmdsprt, that should work great |
| 00:40.01 | icebrain | CutMeOwnThroat: not really available around here :| |
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| 00:40.11 | untmdsprt | using the lxde window manager? |
| 00:40.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's good if you're a noob, because it gives you less opportunities to break things horribly in updates |
| 00:40.29 | abrotman | untmdsprt: that's one alternative, and should work fine |
| 00:40.32 | beardy | untmdsprt: If that is what you like. |
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| 00:40.37 | icebrain | Shadowcat: not really, if you use the Lenny image with backported kernel. |
| 00:40.48 | Shadowcat | icebrain: with the emphasis on n00b here |
| 00:40.55 | beardy | !noob |
| 00:40.55 | dpkg | Dear visitor, please don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. Please don't bother telling us you're not a "newb", "noob" or "n00b" either. We can tell that too, you probably are, if you have to say you are not. |
| 00:40.56 | Shadowcat | n00bs might not know about backports |
| 00:41.10 | untmdsprt | well I've ran other Linuxes with Gnome and totally slowed the computer down |
| 00:41.15 | icebrain | Shadowcat: it's an ISO exactly like the main Lenny one |
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| 00:41.22 | beardy | Any GUI will. |
| 00:41.23 | abrotman | untmdsprt: so don't use it |
| 00:41.30 | icebrain | Shadowcat: it simply includes a different kernel version |
| 00:41.32 | Shadowcat | sigh, sun java desktop system |
| 00:42.02 | Shadowcat | our university finally decided to migrate to Ubuntu from Solaris |
| 00:42.07 | Shadowcat | only took them 10 years |
| 00:42.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | icebrain, well... it can be "preinstalled" by a friend :) (although actually preinstalled ones are preferable because they can put a lot more effort in when they make things work once, then clone their effort some hundredthousand times compared to some single install done by one person) |
| 00:42.55 | untmdsprt | now the best way to get debian on a usb stick? |
| 00:43.04 | beardy | !unetbootin |
| 00:43.05 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions, packaged for Debian. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ See also <usb install>. |
| 00:43.23 | beardy | !tell untmdsprt -about usb install |
| 00:43.28 | untmdsprt | oh cool |
| 00:43.31 | untmdsprt | used that before |
| 00:43.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | nothing wrong with solaris... |
| 00:43.46 | WormFood | slowaris |
| 00:43.50 | Shadowcat | there's plenty wrong with the particular solaris environment we currently have |
| 00:43.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... that a good sledgehammer can't fix* (*well, or installing some gnu utilities) |
| 00:43.53 | abrotman | and if there, it's not on-topic here .. end of story |
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| 00:45.23 | abrotman | or move it to #debian-offtopic, just not here |
| 00:45.29 | untmdsprt | my last question, can the thinkpad use the graphic installer or do I have to use the text installer? |
| 00:46.01 | Shadowcat | with such old hardware I would recommend the text based installer |
| 00:46.09 | Shadowcat | but you can see how far you get with the gui |
| 00:46.22 | abrotman | either shuld work, the GUI installer is pretty simple .. his machine isn't that old |
| 00:46.41 | beardy | You should always use the text installer. |
| 00:46.53 | icebrain | agrees, it worked fine in his 800Mhz P3 |
| 00:46.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | Shadowcat, anyway, 90% of all problems are during install and... a recent kernel helps... (although not in all cases, my laptop actually _lost_ support for the cpu temperature via lm_sensors from Etch to Lenny and the kernel change that brought) |
| 00:46.57 | icebrain | beardy: why? |
| 00:47.03 | beardy | icebrain: Because I said so. |
| 00:47.18 | icebrain | !said so |
| 00:47.18 | dpkg | Why, so I did. |
| 00:47.33 | untmdsprt | hmm, I'll try both |
| 00:47.35 | untmdsprt | thanks |
| 00:48.00 | Shadowcat | CutMeOwnThroat: I just need a kernel with net access basically |
| 00:48.11 | Shadowcat | I compile my own kernel on critical machines anyway |
| 00:48.34 | lenswipe | can someone help me out with ldap? |
| 00:48.37 | lenswipe | i cant populate the domain |
| 00:48.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | and actually, the multi-card-read in that laptop never worked... obviously nobody ever bothered to write a driver for it |
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| 00:49.29 | Shadowcat | wishes Apple still included express card slots on macbooks |
| 00:49.49 | Shadowcat | worst part about a mac is that there's no way to expand it |
| 00:50.00 | Shadowcat | err upgrade it |
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| 00:50.57 | Shadowcat | although I'm kind of curious why some laptop manufacturers feel it's necessary to include specialized card readers when a regular usb one will do |
| 00:51.00 | lenswipe | Shadowcat, yeah |
| 00:51.09 | abrotman | sends Shadowcat to #debian-offtopic |
| 00:51.17 | Shadowcat | fine |
| 00:51.21 | Shadowcat | kicks abrotman |
| 00:51.37 | Shadowcat | topic nazi :( |
| 00:52.34 | abrotman | lenswipe: which domain? did you read the ldap intro? ISTR it's pretty simple |
| 00:53.04 | nsadmin | if you don't want to feel as though you've been topically nazied, just check the /topic first,, it should be VERY clear as to what's on topic. |
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| 00:58.58 | eikenberry | Anyone with experience getting a webcam to work well? I have it working but am getting crappy frame rates (~7fps). |
| 00:59.18 | eikenberry | Running squeeze. Webcam is an MS lifecam cinema. |
| 01:00.52 | eikenberry | Tried cheese, guvcview, luvcview. Same results. Resolution didn't seem to matter. |
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| 01:03.06 | lenswipe | abrotman, ive read the ldap intro |
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| 01:04.14 | eikenberry | I did ask on #v4l w/o response. |
| 01:04.24 | lenswipe | abrotman, when i try and populate my domain i get this: http://pastebin.com/vx0GfhNE |
| 01:05.02 | lenswipe | abrotman, can you help? |
| 01:05.02 | jalalsfs | I want use the best download speed program in debian, What can i use? |
| 01:05.03 | abrotman | lenswipe: i don't know anything about using it with samba |
| 01:05.03 | icebrain | jalalsfs: axel |
| 01:05.08 | lenswipe | abrotman, samba dont really enter into it at this stage |
| 01:05.16 | lenswipe | abrotman, this is just pure LDAP stuff as far as i can see |
| 01:05.46 | icebrain | jalalsfs: just write "axel URL" and it'll download the file with 20 connections at the same time to speed it up |
| 01:05.47 | jalalsfs | icebrain: axel is use GUI/ |
| 01:06.14 | icebrain | jalalsfs: no, but it's just opening the terminal, and write axel and the URL |
| 01:06.47 | jalalsfs | Is it download files? |
| 01:07.04 | icebrain | jalalsfs: yes |
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| 01:07.27 | icebrain | I don't know about any nice GUI download manager, sorry |
| 01:07.38 | Shadowcat | Safari |
| 01:07.41 | Shadowcat | runs |
| 01:08.15 | jalalsfs | Is it support continue download? |
| 01:08.37 | Shadowcat | ..... any piece of download software written in the past 10 years supports resume |
| 01:09.10 | icebrain | Actually, I think axel doesn't, it's very simple |
| 01:09.17 | jalalsfs | Shadowcat: Thank you. |
| 01:09.24 | icebrain | jalalsfs: I think axel doesn't! |
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| 01:09.43 | jalalsfs | Oh, that's problem! |
| 01:09.47 | icebrain | jalalsfs: maybe someone else can suggest you a GUI download manager with resume, sorry |
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| 01:10.01 | Shadowcat | use firefox? |
| 01:10.07 | Shadowcat | nautilus? |
| 01:10.14 | Shadowcat | <insert browser here>? |
| 01:10.18 | jalalsfs | But firefox not speed? |
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| 01:10.34 | jpinx-eeepc | what's a downlod manager - they're redundant iirc |
| 01:10.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | eikenberry, mine didn't work at all without v4l2, which I didn't have installed at first - I wonder if your problem is similar... (bad support in 4vl instead of none) |
| 01:10.40 | Shadowcat | I agree |
| 01:10.46 | Shadowcat | this isn't the days of 56k |
| 01:10.49 | abrotman | d4l ? or whatever it's called |
| 01:10.55 | Shadowcat | and Download Accelerator Plus |
| 01:11.15 | icebrain | Shadowcat: Browsers don't support opening multiple concurrent connections - that's lame |
| 01:11.21 | eikenberry | CutMeOwnThroat. Maybe. I have v4l2 and it worked out of the box. Just crappy frame rates. |
| 01:11.21 | icebrain | DAP?! Noes! |
| 01:11.24 | abrotman | icebrain: some do, some don't |
| 01:11.24 | jpinx-eeepc | all sounding horribly windowsy |
| 01:11.30 | Shadowcat | icebrain: that's what torrents are for |
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| 01:11.56 | icebrain | Shadowcat: yes, and absolutely every file on the 'net has a torrent and plenty of seeds... |
| 01:12.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah well, possibly not, then |
| 01:12.19 | Shadowcat | icebrain: you can wait 2 more min for most things |
| 01:12.25 | eikenberry | Found various places that talked about it but nothing has helped yet. |
| 01:12.27 | icebrain | abrotman: do they? I've never found one. But I don't care, won't choose the browser based on it |
| 01:12.30 | eikenberry | CutMeOwnThroat. Thanks anyways. |
| 01:12.44 | icebrain | Shadowcat: why, if I have axel? |
| 01:12.56 | Shadowcat | .... |
| 01:13.08 | Shadowcat | forces icebrain to use IE7 on WinVista |
| 01:13.23 | eikenberry | CutMeOwnThroat. What webcam do you have? It works well? |
| 01:13.29 | Shadowcat | or was it IE8 |
| 01:13.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | eikenberry, but I think I've seen what you encounter with the webcam of a colleague ... looked horrible (I didn't get into it further, though) |
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| 01:15.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | eikenberry, http://www.amazon.com/HP-KQ246AA-8-0-Deluxe-Webcam/dp/B001D8AGA2 - good enough for me (mind, the 8MP are a lie, that is 'interpolated' only) |
| 01:15.23 | olskolirc | hey cool cats where can I get the old version of gaim 1.5 please? |
| 01:15.35 | olskolirc | in .deb format that is |
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| 01:15.54 | kittonian | hi all |
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| 01:15.57 | abrotman | olskolirc: jebus .. why would you want that .. it probably won't work on anything except XMPP |
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| 01:16.15 | abrotman | if it even runs |
| 01:16.40 | olskolirc | interested in getting gaim-pt going again |
| 01:17.08 | lenswipe | guys |
| 01:17.10 | jpinx-eeepc | olskolirc: on their website? or pidgins |
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| 01:17.50 | olskolirc | gaim-pt is a plugin for gaim 1.5 that Tim Hentennar wrote back in 2005 that allowed everyone to get on Paltalk via gaim |
| 01:17.54 | icebrain | hi, lenswipe |
| 01:17.57 | olskolirc | full usage and control |
| 01:18.00 | olskolirc | control* |
| 01:18.15 | abrotman | olskolirc: maybe snapshot.debian.org .. but i doubt it |
| 01:18.17 | olskolirc | It only works with gaim 1.5 though |
| 01:18.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | eikenberry, I think that's about the biggest it can do http://nw.ath.cx/~k/big.jpg (taken by 'motion') |
| 01:18.36 | kittonian | i am running a debian server as a firewall/router via iptables/ipfilter. works great but i just got one of those at&t microcell devices and apparently there's no way to assign a static ip address to this thing (our entire network is all static and no dhcp server is running) |
| 01:18.38 | jpinx-eeepc | olskolirc: what did google show up? |
| 01:18.39 | lenswipe | sudo apt-get autoremove openldap - will that remove all traces of openldap so i can start with a clean slate? |
| 01:19.13 | kittonian | apparently I can get a dhcp server up and running and use the mac address of the microcell to hard set an ip address and therefore make a dynamic ip never expire |
| 01:19.24 | kittonian | the problem is i have never done anything with a dhcp server |
| 01:19.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | eikenberry, actually not sure - perhaps you can make bigger pictures and I found it excessive :) |
| 01:19.38 | ftjjk | I have a micro cruzer usb I want to get rid of the u3 system on so I can install linux to it? |
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| 01:21.10 | jpinx-eeepc | olskolirc: http://www.oldversion.com/download_Gaim_1.5.0.html and build your own .deb |
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| 01:21.46 | kittonian | if i install a dhcp server on this debian box which is plugged into our switch, and then i plug in a device that uses dhcp, how will it know which box to obtain the ip address from (i.e. don't i somehow have to tell it the ip of the dhcp server?) |
| 01:21.48 | ftjjk | im still relatively new to linux but not afraid of the command line so is there a way to get rid of that on the usb |
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| 01:22.21 | abrotman | ftjjk: it's a partition, you just have to repartition it and format it |
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| 01:22.53 | olskolirc | oh snap @ build my own deb jpinx-eeepc |
| 01:23.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | ftjjk, and now you want us to put the fear of Go^H^Hthe commandline into you? :-P |
| 01:24.17 | ftjjk | lol |
| 01:24.59 | ftjjk | well.....okay so it is under /media/U3 System |
| 01:25.01 | jpinx-eeepc | olskolirc: looks like .15 might not have been in a .deb |
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| 01:25.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | (and I don't had any idea what a "micro cruzer usb" is... it's a usb stick/drive?) |
| 01:25.27 | abrotman | usb stick |
| 01:25.59 | ftjjk | yep |
| 01:26.00 | jpinx-eeepc | has a micro cruzer stick too |
| 01:26.10 | olskolirc | it installed as a deb at one time but I can't find it and the tar.gz files won't allow me to make after configure it says "Stop" jpinx-eeepc |
| 01:26.17 | jpinx-eeepc | ftjjk: what abrotman says |
| 01:26.28 | ftjjk | yes |
| 01:26.35 | abrotman | don't make fun of me! |
| 01:26.39 | ftjjk | lol |
| 01:26.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | why not? |
| 01:26.51 | jpinx-eeepc | olskolirc: sorry, then can't help much |
| 01:26.54 | ftjjk | well gotta admit it was funny |
| 01:26.56 | jpinx-eeepc | ,versions gaim |
| 01:26.59 | judd | gaim -- etch: 1:2.0.0+beta5-10etch3; etch-security: 1:2.0.0+beta5-10etch3; lenny: 1:2.0.0+fake.4 |
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| 01:27.33 | jpinx-eeepc | olskolirc: that was the last gaim packaged - you must have got a non-official .deb of 1.5 |
| 01:28.34 | jpinx-eeepc | ftjjk: you could dd zeros all over the stick if you're feeling bad about what's on there ;) |
| 01:28.41 | olskolirc | it came installed with sarge jpinx-eeepc |
| 01:28.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | pre-etch |
| 01:28.58 | ftjjk | oh no I shredded that long ago |
| 01:28.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | !archives |
| 01:28.59 | dpkg | well, archive is a collection of files. 'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all archiving tools. This is *not* the same as compression, which is a separate operation. Debian Archives is the repository for old Debian releases, see http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive . For the package archive, ask me about <snapshot>. Old Debian <ISO> files are archived at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 01:29.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | meh |
| 01:29.18 | abrotman | !ado |
| 01:29.18 | dpkg | Find old Debian releases at http://archive.debian.org/ |
| 01:29.25 | ftjjk | okay so Im going to us 'mkfs' commnad? |
| 01:29.30 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: how can etch have 1.2 and sarge have 1.5 ? |
| 01:29.35 | abrotman | ftjjk: very carefully |
| 01:30.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | ftjjk, yes... quatruple-check you're doing this to the correct partition |
| 01:30.20 | jpinx-eeepc | ftjjk: mkfs-vfat |
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| 01:30.45 | jpinx-eeepc | ftjjk: not all sticks play well with etx3 as their base filesystem |
| 01:31.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually none do... |
| 01:31.39 | olskolirc | Found it :-) http://snapshot.debian.org/package/gaim/1%3A1.5.0%2B1.5.1cvs20051015-4/ |
| 01:32.17 | jpinx-eeepc | olskolirc: fill yer boots ! ; |
| 01:32.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | jounaling wears down a specific region of the SSD... leading to an early death (which is less of a problem with modern sticks which have a much bigger lifetime) |
| 01:32.59 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: that'll explain why it died .... :/ |
| 01:33.17 | lenswipe | guys how do i completely remove all trace of openldap? |
| 01:33.28 | jpinx-eeepc | maybe next time Iĺl use ext2 |
| 01:33.34 | lenswipe | guys how do i completely remove all trace of openldap? |
| 01:33.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, there are special filesystems that compensate for this, but they need raw access and don't work with regular usb sticks (which are just _made_ for fat) |
| 01:33.41 | lenswipe | like *ALL * trace |
| 01:33.59 | jpinx-eeepc | lenswipe: aptitude purge |
| 01:34.07 | nsadmin | well well first first you you repeat repeat it it twice twice... |
| 01:34.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | or dpkg --purge or apt-get --purge remove |
| 01:34.14 | jpinx-eeepc | lenswipe: then manually remove config files |
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| 01:34.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | *so* much choice |
| 01:34.29 | jpinx-eeepc | lenswipe: then do it again |
| 01:34.39 | jpinx-eeepc | it's a bit like wiping your arse |
| 01:34.44 | lenswipe | lol |
| 01:34.52 | jpinx-eeepc | keep doing it till the paper is clean :) |
| 01:35.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually, at least apt-get refuses to --purge remove packages that are not installed (while dpkg --purge does it) |
| 01:35.30 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: aptitude and dpkg alternately till lunchtime |
| 01:35.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | ? |
| 01:35.45 | jpinx-eeepc | then spend the afternoon manually searching out configs |
| 01:35.52 | ftjjk | "mkfs-vfat /media/U3 System" ? or do i need to figure out where it is in the /dev/ section? |
| 01:35.53 | nsadmin | you mean packages that were removed but not purged? |
| 01:36.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes |
| 01:36.25 | olskolirc | its a loss cause my kernel isn't going to support this gaim 1.5 it depends on gaim-data and im not killing myself over it and messing up my kernel |
| 01:36.33 | olskolirc | I should get in touch with Hentennar |
| 01:36.41 | jpinx-eeepc | ftjjk: that should work -- if you're root |
| 01:36.45 | olskolirc | he should upgrade this to pidgin |
| 01:37.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive#SSD_optimized_file_systems |
| 01:37.06 | jpinx-eeepc | olskolirc: send him a bugreprt ;) |
| 01:37.16 | olskolirc | lol jpinx-eeepc |
| 01:37.16 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: Eeewwwww |
| 01:37.51 | jpinx-eeepc | closes all the gaim tabs in ffx |
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| 01:39.00 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: I only used ext3 so that a windows user could not easily read it |
| 01:39.14 | jpinx-eeepc | internet cafe security ;) |
| 01:40.00 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: is ZFS easily readable in lenny? |
| 01:40.14 | jpinx-eeepc | s/readable/useable |
| 01:41.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, can't find the article I read, but basically the problem is that SSD drives have a limited amount of write operations for every one of their elements and that a journal in ext3/reiser/xfs a) always writes into the same region and b) writes on every write you perform anywhere |
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| 01:43.36 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFFS2 |
| 01:44.03 | ftjjk | argh okay I also used the 'mkfs.ext3' command on /media/U3 System but I got "invalid blocks count - System" |
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| 01:44.28 | ftjjk | what is the command to show me the devices |
| 01:44.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, that article is lacking - the N900 (a smartphone from nokia running the debian derivative maemo) uses this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UBIFS |
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| 01:44.38 | dasunt | Okay. |
| 01:44.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, that is _also_ outdated :) |
| 01:44.42 | dasunt | Gots a problem. |
| 01:44.57 | dasunt | Went from an old Athlon Socket A motherboard to a newer Athlon 64 motherboard. |
| 01:45.01 | dasunt | Lost sound. |
| 01:45.08 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: Quote from wikipedia "Removable flash memory cards and USB flash drives have built-in controllers to perform wear leveling and error correction so use of a flash file system has limited benefit. |
| 01:45.10 | dasunt | So I did dpkg-reconfigure alsa-* |
| 01:45.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, was searching for UBIFS - I knew that that's current "state of the art" but had forgotten the exact name |
| 01:45.12 | dasunt | Still no sound. |
| 01:45.14 | dasunt | Ideas? |
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| 01:45.22 | dasunt | Old system was soundblaster, new one is nvidia AC97. |
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| 01:45.36 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell dasunt about alsa checklist |
| 01:45.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, yes they do - but it's linked with the use of FAT |
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| 01:46.19 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: you mean the controllers are windows-ware and don't work in linux? |
| 01:46.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | they're really designed to be used with FAT and if you put a journaling filesystem on it, that in-built wear-leveling fails* (*disclaimer: or so I understood) |
| 01:46.37 | jpinx-eeepc | bugger:/ |
| 01:46.40 | dasunt | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:46.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | nothing to do with windows, just with the way FAT works and the way the sticks work |
| 01:46.58 | jpinx-eeepc | dasunt: ok - now do the bits you didn't do before :) |
| 01:47.00 | dasunt | tries alsa-oss |
| 01:47.36 | dasunt | Could it be I'm on oss instead of alsa? But if so, catting /dev/random > /dev/dsp should work, right? |
| 01:47.58 | dvs | dasunt: speaker-test is better |
| 01:48.09 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: so it's back to ext2 or.... |
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| 01:49.16 | ftjjk | okay, I used the df command and it shows the sr1 as the "U3 system" partition and sdb1 as the partition for the rest of the usb drive |
| 01:50.17 | jpinx-eeepc | ftjjk: what does cfdisk /dev/sdb show ? |
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| 01:50.31 | dasunt | Ah ha! |
| 01:50.38 | dasunt | I had to mute something under alsa-mixer. |
| 01:50.51 | dasunt | Thanks for the help. |
| 01:51.09 | ftjjk | fatal error cannot read drive...press any key to exit cfdisk |
| 01:51.20 | dasunt | IEC958 capture module had to be muted? Why? |
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| 01:51.24 | dasunt | does not ask the gods why. |
| 01:52.12 | jpinx-eeepc | ftjjk: sounds bad...... |
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| 01:52.49 | ftjjk | darn, I tried to do 'mkfs.ext3' on /dev/sdb and it warned me that was entire drive, not just one partition |
| 01:53.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, dammit, there was a rather neat article on the details of this (some of which I understood *g*) but I can't find it |
| 01:53.07 | ftjjk | I proceeded anyway since thats what I wnated but permission denied |
| 01:53.43 | nsadmin | do you want it on the entire drive? do you not want a partition table on it? |
| 01:54.38 | nsadmin | note that legacy grub won't work on a drive initialized that way |
| 01:54.51 | ftjjk | the U3 system is a proprietary encrypted partition the sandisk puts on there usb drives |
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| 01:55.13 | ftjjk | I dont wnat it cuz I want to use the drive as an embedded os drive |
| 01:55.31 | jpinx-eeepc | ftjjk: dd the whole devie with 0Å |
| 01:55.39 | nsadmin | you probably still ought to partition it |
| 01:55.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, well, can't find it - you'll have to believe the summary my flimsy memory supplies (there were a lot more technical details... ) |
| 01:55.54 | jpinx-eeepc | then partition it |
| 01:56.01 | ftjjk | well I can let the install process worry about the new partitions |
| 01:56.02 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/TipsAndTricks#Extendingflashmemorylife |
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| 01:56.15 | nsadmin | true |
| 01:56.27 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: and http://wiki.eeeuser.com/ssd_write_limit |
| 01:56.37 | nsadmin | altho it would be nice to know it can be done |
| 01:56.39 | ftjjk | right now it cant be formatted or partitioned by the new install process while the U3 system is there protecting the existing mbr |
| 01:56.45 | fraiz | hey guys |
| 01:56.56 | jpinx-eeepc | ftjjk: true, but the install will not detect it if cfdisk doesn't ;) |
| 01:56.58 | matland | hm i wonder when linux kernel will finally be stable |
| 01:57.15 | nsadmin | ask linus |
| 01:57.27 | matland | he claims it is |
| 01:57.32 | nsadmin | wellthen |
| 01:57.41 | qq- | matland, troll away |
| 01:57.42 | matland | it is wrong |
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| 01:57.47 | jpinx-eeepc | ftjjk: so dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd# |
| 01:57.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, aww, well, can't find it - but it seemed pretty good and in-depth... pointing out some mistakes in many other texts (although I couldn't really verify what was right...) |
| 01:58.02 | nsadmin | I'm sure he doesn't claim every single version ever put out is stable |
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| 01:58.16 | matland | hm i did not really ask anyway |
| 01:58.24 | matland | maybe i schould try 2.4 |
| 01:58.29 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: those 2 links I pasted are interesting |
| 01:58.33 | glick | hey does anyone know of a decent usb network adaptor i can buy at a local electronics store that will work with linux? apparently netgear ones are crap |
| 01:58.41 | ftjjk | jpinx-eeepc: can I trnaslate you # to a B? |
| 01:58.42 | jpinx-eeepc | but apply to SSD more than USB/SD |
| 01:58.44 | nsadmin | so rather than complain about something you're not being specific about... |
| 01:58.46 | nsadmin | !ask |
| 01:58.46 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 01:58.57 | ftjjk | it is currenlty sdb |
| 01:59.04 | jpinx-eeepc | ftjjk: whatever your rive is showing as -- and BE CAREFUL |
| 01:59.09 | ftjjk | thx |
| 01:59.21 | fraiz | there is such with whom possible speak on united, simply I bad dialect in english& |
| 01:59.43 | dvs | glick: I have a d-link 122 that works rather well. |
| 01:59.48 | jpinx-eeepc | *reparse* |
| 02:00.03 | nsadmin | fraiz: what is your preferred language? |
| 02:00.03 | glick | dvs most delinks work? |
| 02:00.20 | fraiz | nsadmin: Ru |
| 02:00.36 | nsadmin | well let's see if dpkg knows... |
| 02:00.40 | nsadmin | !ru |
| 02:00.40 | dpkg | Russian speakers, please use (Pogalujsta, zajdite na) (Pazhaluista, zahodite na) #debian-russian @ irc.freenode.net. or use English here. |
| 02:00.52 | dvs | glick: I'm not sure about most but the DWL-G122 does |
| 02:01.27 | nsadmin | fraiz: you can stay if you want, and be in both channels |
| 02:01.33 | matland | meh google no help either |
| 02:01.36 | matland | back to openbsd |
| 02:02.35 | nsadmin | matland: how obvious do you want it to be that you're trolling? |
| 02:02.50 | nsadmin | that's pretty blatent... |
| 02:02.58 | matland | i don't _want nothing |
| 02:03.03 | matland | blatant is just what i am |
| 02:03.17 | nsadmin | well |
| 02:03.42 | matland | anyhow, i'm kinda done trolling |
| 02:03.47 | nsadmin | unless you're specific about what you're after (and so far you have provided zero information), you're trolling |
| 02:04.09 | matland | hm musta posted my question in irc.debian.org |
| 02:04.14 | matland | here's the thing |
| 02:04.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, well, what I remember that article specifically addressed the journaling issue... but I think I've given you most of the highlights... |
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| 02:05.09 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: yea - I get the gist of it. I read a lot about it when I first got the eeepc with it's SDD's |
| 02:05.25 | matland | when trying to boot i gets '[sbd] <someshit> assuming drive cache write trough' four times, then it hangs |
| 02:05.47 | jpinx-eeepc | matland: b0rked drive? |
| 02:05.50 | matland | 'recovery mode' spits some more messages, before that, none errors |
| 02:06.03 | matland | jpinx-eeepc, schould be fine, tried multiple drives |
| 02:06.13 | nsadmin | sbd? |
| 02:06.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, well, that also demonstrates it: http://www.bress.net/blog/archives/114-How-Long-Does-a-Flash-Drive-Last.html |
| 02:06.26 | nsadmin | ok, that leaves the cable and controller |
| 02:06.29 | matland | flash drives |
| 02:06.39 | matland | one of which i tried is brand new |
| 02:06.55 | jpinx-eeepc | fraiz: РоÑÑийÑкие ÑпикеÑÑ, пожалÑйÑÑа иÑполÑзÑйÑе *debian-russian @irc.freenode.net. или английÑкий ÑзÑк иÑполÑÐ·Ð¾Ð²Ð°Ð½Ð¸Ñ Ð·Ð´ÐµÑÑ. |
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| 02:07.03 | matland | can mount it, read it, write an image to it & check it's crc |
| 02:08.18 | jpinx-eeepc | matland: brand new != perfect ;) |
| 02:08.34 | matland | well, i tested it |
| 02:08.37 | nsadmin | jpinx-eeepc: already went there... he does prefer to speak russian (or has limited english), but doesn't want to go to #debian-russian |
| 02:08.42 | matland | and i tried older ones too |
| 02:08.45 | fraiz | you forbid me to surrender is found? jpinx-eeepc |
| 02:08.56 | jpinx-eeepc | nsadmin: oh well - at least we tried |
| 02:09.19 | jpinx-eeepc | fraiz: translated in an online translator - sorry for any oddities |
| 02:09.50 | fraiz | no problem :) |
| 02:12.21 | matland | but heh unless there is an easy simple fast fix, i'm giving up |
| 02:12.36 | glick | do most linksys usb adaptors work with linux? |
| 02:12.43 | matland | wasted enough time attemptng to get linux to work |
| 02:12.47 | glick | linksys and d-link? |
| 02:13.00 | matland | glick, i have one that works, letme see what make it is |
| 02:13.08 | jpinx-eeepc | glick: most USB memories work fien in debian |
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| 02:13.19 | jpinx-eeepc | *fine |
| 02:13.28 | glick | jpinx-eeepc, i know im talking about network adaptors though |
| 02:13.31 | dvs | glick: you have to know the chipset that the adaptor uses to look it up to make sure. |
| 02:14.08 | jpinx-eeepc | glick: sorry - brainfart |
| 02:14.46 | jpinx-eeepc | glick: if you have the chipset you can find what works in debian - it's all down to drivers |
| 02:14.55 | ftjjk | i got dd to write zeros to my usb drive |
| 02:15.01 | matland | kue0 at uhub4 port 2 "Silicom Ltd. Silicom USB Ethernet Adapter" rev 1.10/0.08 addr 3 |
| 02:15.02 | ftjjk | now I need to format it |
| 02:15.06 | glick | jpinx-eeepc, yeah im in a bind im gonna go to the store and wont be able to look stuff up on the internet |
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| 02:15.39 | matland | Kawasaki LSI KL5KLUSB101B chipset it is |
| 02:16.13 | ftjjk | I tried "mkfs-ext.3 /dev/sdb" but i got a msg saying " is apparently in use by the system; will not make filesystem here! |
| 02:16.24 | matland | doesn't work in freebsd, but openbsd, netbsd, linux, winders, all do fine with it |
| 02:16.36 | jpinx-eeepc | glick: I know that situation - you have to go to the store twice, or phone them in advance, to see what models they have in stock |
| 02:16.37 | Jordan_U | glick: Does it need to be USB? You'll generally have better luck with minipci / pcmcia cards. |
| 02:16.41 | glick | does one brand usually work? |
| 02:16.55 | matland | one chipset usually works @ glick |
| 02:17.02 | jpinx-eeepc | ftjjk: unmount it |
| 02:17.08 | glick | Jordan_U, i guess not but i dont feel like opening up my box |
| 02:17.13 | dvs | glick: no because manufacturers frequently change chipsets. |
| 02:17.24 | Jordan_U | glick: Desktop or laptop? |
| 02:17.57 | glick | desktop |
| 02:18.00 | jpinx-eeepc | glick: if it's for permanent use, get in internal or at least pcmcia/laptop one |
| 02:18.22 | untmdsprt | yeah got Debian installing on my old Thinkpad |
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| 02:19.43 | Jordan_U | glick: You'll save yourself more grief by just getting an internal (atheros if available is well supported, even for wireless N) |
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| 02:20.02 | glick | most internal adaptors are supported? |
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| 02:20.33 | Jordan_U | glick: I'm not sure about "most", but the odds are much better than with USB adaptors |
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| 02:21.21 | jpinx-eeepc | CutMeOwnThroat: interesting that he was able to read the stick after failure - that could be worth remembering... |
| 02:21.45 | Jordan_U | !hcl |
| 02:21.45 | dpkg | [hcl] Hardware Compatibility Lists are at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/, see http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatlist3.html to see what's supported by the Linux kernel, http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ (PCI verification only), http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/, or ask me about <modinfo pci alias>, <judd-hardware>. |
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| 02:21.54 | glick | ok, i guess ill go and get an internal one |
| 02:22.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, yes, so I thought - but in medicine that would be called "anectodical evidence" - actually, I would think if the sector(s) with the data failed, you would still be able to read all of the stick anyway... (you would fail reading the journal, though) |
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| 02:22.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | hey, what happened to hydrochloric acid in that factoid |
| 02:23.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, s/data/journal data/ |
| 02:23.48 | zinx | CutMeOwnThroat: hydrochloric acid is HCl, not hcl |
| 02:24.01 | jpinx-eeepc | keeps old USB's for -ro music now |
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| 02:28.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | zinx, then /msg dpkg HCl |
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| 02:29.14 | nicesj | hello,. |
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| 02:29.36 | nicesj | I want to make an application for managing the deb packages. |
| 02:29.48 | nicesj | but I couldn't find any docs for writing such apps.. |
| 02:29.57 | jordanm | !nmg |
| 02:29.57 | dpkg | The New Maintainer's Guide (http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/), Developer's Reference and Policy document how packages should be made and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <policy>, <best practices> or see http://www.debian.org/devel/ http://women.debian.org/wiki/English/BuildingWithoutHelper |
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| 02:30.06 | nicesj | Thank you :D |
| 02:30.08 | Jordan_U | nicesj: What do you need that doesn't already exist? |
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| 02:30.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | I think there is one such application... it's called 'apt' |
| 02:30.19 | nicesj | Yeah I know |
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| 02:30.34 | nicesj | I developed app for the embedded device |
| 02:30.36 | nicesj | there is no keyboard... |
| 02:30.39 | nicesj | :) |
| 02:30.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | (or aptitude/apt-get/apt-cach/dselect/synaptic ) |
| 02:30.47 | nicesj | you know, user only touches the screen |
| 02:31.04 | jordanm | Jordan_U: one of these maybe: http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/requested |
| 02:31.09 | nicesj | So I re-implement(or create new one) the packaging system for the embeded device... |
| 02:31.25 | nicesj | which supports weak user interface...:( |
| 02:31.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | nicesj, well, but wouldn't you then just write a front-end to the existing software? |
| 02:31.49 | Jordan_U | jordanm: nicesj Is talking about making an aplications that manages packages, not about packaging an application |
| 02:31.53 | nicesj | I have to keep the security policy.. |
| 02:31.59 | nicesj | there is a one big rule |
| 02:32.20 | nicesj | that is any app has to do not invoke the "system" or "fork/exec" for launching something.. |
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| 02:32.41 | nicesj | so I need to use the API for mananging the packages... |
| 02:32.52 | nicesj | That suck policies makes me crazy... :( |
| 02:33.13 | nicesj | anyway, I'll check nmg :) Thanks... |
| 02:33.26 | nevyn | no use of system or fork/exec? |
| 02:33.32 | nevyn | WTF? |
| 02:33.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | nicesj, and if you take the aptitude source and add a graphical interface? |
| 02:33.53 | Jordan_U | nicesj: The packages themselves are going to be using shell scripts for installing / configuring / removing. That's going to be a lot of forking execing :) |
| 02:33.54 | jordanm | Jordan_U: oh... I guess I missed the concept of using something than dpkg/apt to manage debs... |
| 02:33.58 | nicesj | I know that rule is so fuck! |
| 02:34.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | heh... indeed |
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| 02:34.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | nicesj, perhaps... just don't tell them about it? :) |
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| 02:34.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | I mean - doesn't that lead to a lot of huge programs which try to do everything? |
| 02:34.55 | jpinx-eeepc | nicesj: can you not do anything with synaptic? |
| 02:34.56 | nicesj | good idea.. but if they find what I did, they will try to kill me... |
| 02:35.10 | zinx | nicesj: get a new job |
| 02:35.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | well... keep an escape route open |
| 02:35.17 | nicesj | zinx : lol |
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| 02:35.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't think he was kidding |
| 02:35.33 | nicesj | yeap..=0= |
| 02:35.36 | zinx | was not kidding |
| 02:35.57 | zinx | exec is the standard way to load a different binary in *nix... if you do not use one of the exec variants, you are doing it wrong :P |
| 02:35.58 | nicesj | then who can hire me :( |
| 02:36.24 | nicesj | zinx/ there is a way to invoke a new app. |
| 02:36.41 | nicesj | but dpkg is not in that app list.. |
| 02:36.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | what? |
| 02:37.06 | nicesj | there is a list for application launching.. |
| 02:37.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, one moment - are you trying to replace apt or dpkg? |
| 02:37.19 | zinx | nicesj: erh, ok |
| 02:37.33 | nicesj | only in that list, can be launched... |
| 02:37.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, put it in that list |
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| 02:37.50 | nicesj | ;) |
| 02:38.00 | cryptic | hey, do any of you know of any good 8 channel video input cards that work with debian? |
| 02:38.18 | nicesj | then, is there anyway to handle the deb packages using library? |
| 02:38.44 | jpinx-eeepc | nicesj: build your own local repo of the pkgs you "approve" ? |
| 02:38.55 | abrotman | cryptic: you might have better luck on the debian-user mailing list |
| 02:39.03 | nicesj | yeap |
| 02:39.11 | kittonian | i've got an old debian server that's been running for many years now and i do not want to upgrade it. however, i need to install a dhcp server but when i use apt-get it wants to install all kinds of new software that would break the existing software. how can i accomplish this? it's running 2.4 series kernel and is woody as far as i remember |
| 02:39.28 | abrotman | kittonian: put your sources.list in a pastebin |
| 02:40.11 | cryptic | we have a summer house, and i'm just trying to get 8 cameras to feed into the server so that i can stream it online and send text messages if motion is detected |
| 02:40.18 | kittonian | abrotman: http://pastebin.org/320308 |
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| 02:40.42 | abrotman | !tell kittonian about ado |
| 02:41.43 | jordanm | kittonian: you need to remove "stable" from your sources if you do not want to upgrade |
| 02:41.49 | jpinx-eeepc | kittonian: you have stable . not woody :) |
| 02:42.00 | abrotman | you don't know that |
| 02:42.14 | abrotman | if he hasn't upgraded packages to stable, he's still on woody |
| 02:42.23 | abrotman | though, that would be five? years of no upgrades |
| 02:42.29 | jpinx-eeepc | if he has run update/grae, he might even have a nice mix :) |
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| 02:51.18 | kittonian | thank you. got it installed |
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| 02:55.11 | fraiz | http://depositfiles.com/files/xppk88td5 good Russian music :) |
| 02:55.59 | abrotman | fraiz: no spamming |
| 02:56.51 | fraiz | I not spamming, I give you to listen |
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| 02:57.32 | starsong | Hi, I'm having some problems with my gspca camera |
| 02:57.51 | abrotman | fraiz: this is the WRONG channel for that .. do it somewhere else. Last warning |
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| 02:58.27 | starsong | http://pastebin.com/i4yZHF9Z |
| 02:58.52 | fraiz | abrotman: in this channel it is impossible music is divided? |
| 02:59.04 | starsong | I installed camorama to attempt to see if it works, camorama attempts to open /dev/video0 |
| 02:59.20 | nicesj | bye all... |
| 02:59.24 | abrotman | fraiz: WRONG CHANNEL .. do it somewhere else, this channel is for Debian support .. Russian music has nothing to do with Debian |
| 02:59.38 | ftjjk | okay, the U3 System is not a partition on a sandisk usb key |
| 02:59.48 | ftjjk | instead it is a firmware |
| 02:59.50 | ftjjk | argh |
| 03:00.17 | ftjjk | so I was forced to go to a windows box to use the firmware provided uninstaller |
| 03:00.31 | ftjjk | now I have the entire usb key to format again |
| 03:00.36 | ftjjk | thanks all |
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| 03:00.46 | fraiz | abrotman: okey okey not to boil |
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| 03:01.07 | ftjjk | now back to installing linux to that darn thing |
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| 03:02.59 | loddon | abrotman: who the hell r you to decide? because of people like you, this place is dead most of the time . the problem is gspca, not Russina music. |
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| 03:04.00 | loddon | have you bothered to find out if the poster is trying to make it work on debian? |
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| 03:20.02 | untmdsprt | I want to say that installing Debian is the best OS for my thinkpad |
| 03:20.13 | untmdsprt | much snappier than when it had Ubuntu on it |
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| 03:22.43 | dgeary2 | is there any way to get any sort of 2D acceleration on an nVidia Geforce2 MX 400 on powerpc under debian etch? |
| 03:22.54 | nsadmin | what are the pastebin sites that are working these days? |
| 03:23.04 | ootput | paste2.org |
| 03:23.07 | nsadmin | rafb is gone... snif... |
| 03:23.47 | ootput | i think there's a debian subdomain on the original pastebin too |
| 03:23.53 | nsadmin | does that site sport a new api? |
| 03:24.18 | nsadmin | I'm trying to alter a script I have in perl that does something similar to pastebinit |
| 03:24.42 | nsadmin | !paste |
| 03:24.43 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>. |
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| 03:24.51 | ootput | nsadmin: sure |
| 03:25.28 | nsadmin | and do the people who run that site allow autoposting, such as what a pastebinit does? |
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| 03:25.43 | ootput | they don't disallow it ;) |
| 03:25.50 | nsadmin | oh ok |
| 03:26.05 | nsadmin | is this api in common use? |
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| 03:26.13 | nsadmin | among many pastebin sites that is |
| 03:27.05 | ootput | dunno |
| 03:27.27 | nsadmin | do they publish their api docs? |
| 03:27.58 | nsadmin | I guess that would be a good sign they're ok with auto posts |
| 03:28.39 | ootput | I'm sure each employ their own rate-limiter |
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| 03:34.07 | viyyer | I am upgrading from lenny to squeeze on powerpc and I am facing dependancies loop on udev. any clues to how to get around this ? |
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| 03:35.41 | viyyer | I found the bug number its 571255 |
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| 03:40.26 | rashd7_ | my netwwork adapter bcm5784m is not working on debian sid |
| 03:40.36 | rashd7_ | please anybody help me |
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| 03:41.24 | rashd7_ | debian sid shows no network adapter present |
| 03:41.51 | viyyer | rashd7_: have you addded the non-free repositories? |
| 03:42.00 | rashd7_ | which repo |
| 03:42.40 | rashd7_ | my debian sid repo is http://ftp.us.debian.org main non-free |
| 03:43.00 | viyyer | rashd7_: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=bcm5784m+debian |
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| 03:43.18 | jcgrv | Hello. I have a SiS 761 graphics card. 3ivx videos play only on the top part, the rest "bleeds". Audio is fine. Any ideas? |
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| 03:45.53 | viyyer | rashd7_: you might want to get the tigon driver from the non-free repository |
| 03:46.06 | viyyer | alright off to sleep |
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| 03:46.23 | rashd7_ | viyyer can u tell me the debian repo for tigon driver' |
| 03:49.03 | rashd7_ | viyyer: i searched for debian repo for tigon but cannot find it |
| 03:49.23 | lepra | How to close that update applet(gnome) an it's process on debian lenny? it starts everytime I boot up, how can I change this? |
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| 03:51.00 | rashd7_ | viyyer: i installed non-free firmware but still it shows `no network devices found' |
| 03:51.42 | rashd7_ | but in dmesg and lspci it shown my bcm5784m driver as eth0 |
| 03:51.53 | viyyer | rashd7_: the package is called firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 03:52.20 | rashd7_ | viyyer: after installing do i need to anything more |
| 03:52.31 | viyyer | rashd7_: It has worked for me . donno |
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| 03:53.41 | lepra | How to close that update applet(gnome) an it's process on debian lenny? it starts everytime I boot up, how can I change this? |
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| 03:54.20 | lepra | it keeps doing apt-get update in the background |
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| 03:55.24 | qq- | !tell lepra -about repeat |
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| 03:56.12 | lepra | _|_ |
| 03:56.17 | jcgrv | Anybody knows why I can see only the top part of any videos? The rest "bleeds". Audio is fine. I have a SiS 761 video chipset. |
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| 04:08.41 | guevolt | some idea about this ? http://www.livezilla.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2867 |
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| 04:30.41 | untmdsprt | how do you install more printer drivers? |
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| 04:31.24 | untmdsprt | I have a Canon Pixus iP4600 |
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| 04:52.37 | pecar | hi somebody knows something about motherboard genius G6-BXAS |
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| 04:59.59 | liable | best to google that sort of thing or ask #hardware |
| 05:01.38 | epin8r | anyone know what program is responsible for automounting things? |
| 05:01.44 | epin8r | my automount stopped working a couple weeks ago |
| 05:01.51 | epin8r | DVDs, USB drives, everything |
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| 05:02.08 | epin8r | or is that the kernel? |
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| 05:14.44 | zcat[1] | Oops, wrong channel sorry |
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| 05:23.23 | istok | i don't know why, but i can't seem to get this firewall.sh script working, i've tried everything i can (including google) but it just errors with; bad interpreter: No such file or directory |
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| 05:36.55 | civillian | istok, pastebin the script |
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| 05:38.20 | siebo | Hi, I have a debian VPS machine that I just set up, and "free -m" is showing almost all of my RAM used, but when I do "top --> m" I don't see any corresponding memory entries |
| 05:38.39 | siebo | this is just a fresh install with Apache and Posttfix, and not much else |
| 05:39.12 | siebo | how can I dig deeper. It's strange to see top and free giving conflicting reports |
| 05:40.50 | liable | !free |
| 05:40.50 | dpkg | free is probably defined in English with many different meanings of which only one refers to cost. Easier in French, or 'free beer' = gratuit / 'free speech' = libre, or http://www.debian.org/intro/free, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html, or free (procps) tells you how much memory is used/wasted ("Mem:") and how much is being necessarily used/could be freed ("-/+ buffers/cache:"), see also <free ram>. |
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| 05:41.02 | liable | meh |
| 05:41.04 | liable | !free ram |
| 05:41.04 | dpkg | Unlike information, your computer's memory does *not* want to be free. Free RAM is wasted RAM! Linux tries to use free physical memory for caching files from disk which speeds up disk access considerably. Linux releases RAM from these caches if programs need it. If you want to know how much physical memory the free(1) tool says you have left for program use, it's 'free' + 'buffers' + 'cache'. Also ask me about <swapwake>. |
| 05:41.31 | AimHere | !free beer |
| 05:42.13 | AimHere | "free as in beer" is all very well, but where is this damn free beer I keep hearing about/ |
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| 05:47.27 | zeugma | mkfs fails with a message about libblkid.so.1 version BLKID_2.17 not found... suggestions? |
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| 05:47.56 | siebo | so essentially, the "-/+ buffers/cache:" line is the one I really care about |
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| 05:54.25 | ocmsRzr | hi guys |
| 05:54.55 | ocmsRzr | is there a way to install the ubuntu notify-osd package in debian? I really want the slick growl-like appearance |
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| 06:01.03 | istok | civillian, sorry, was busy trying to figure it out more - http://getafix.00freehost.com/firewall.txt |
| 06:01.24 | istok | no matter what i try, bad interpreter: No such file or directory |
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| 06:09.29 | istok | civillian, it appeared to be a line feed issue - i fixed it with some help from another network -> perl -p -i -e 's/\r$//g' firewall.sh |
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| 06:09.53 | civillian | istok, yeah I was going to suggest a line feed issue |
| 06:10.05 | civillian | istok, check out package 'tofrodos' |
| 06:10.27 | civillian | 'fromdos' is the utility that will fix your file, as well as that perl command |
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| 06:11.46 | istok | heh |
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| 06:11.58 | istok | i just don't see how it was created |
| 06:12.13 | istok | i thought the file was fine when i uploaded, i use nano/pico as editors |
| 06:12.22 | istok | vim = weird |
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| 06:14.03 | karsten | istok: Yes, vim is weird. |
| 06:14.09 | karsten | istok: that's not the problem. |
| 06:14.24 | karsten | istok: the problem is that you're not weird enough for vim. |
| 06:16.04 | NotLim | hi there, i have a problem with mdadm: it "detects" an array ALWAYS as "/dev/md127", how can i change this behaviour? for example, to "/dev/md0" |
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| 06:23.53 | NotLim | hi :P |
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| 06:30.30 | gancient | hi all just finished installing debian testing from netinst cd. |
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| 06:31.18 | gancient | how do i install kde from the weekly build CD iso ? |
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| 06:31.29 | xro | hi, i get an warning--> no more inode on one of my server? what that really means? how should i correct it? |
| 06:32.00 | atan | I'm trying to install smoothwall onto a poweredge which doesn't want to recognize the scsi raid drive. I'm told to check out debootstrap? Install debian first, then somehow transofrm over to smoothwall? |
| 06:32.04 | xro | hi, i get an warning : no more inode on one of my server? what that really means? how should i correct it? |
| 06:32.06 | atan | Not sure where I even start |
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| 06:32.19 | lautriv | gancient, place the CD in your repo (/etc/apt/sources.list) or pull the .deb and use dpkg -i |
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| 06:34.35 | lautriv | xro, what fs ? |
| 06:34.35 | xro | hi, i get an message --> no more inode on one of my server? how should i correct it? |
| 06:35.00 | gancient | lautriv: what should i add to the sources.list file ? to make the CD accessible ? |
| 06:35.08 | gancient | #kde-ev |
| 06:35.22 | xro | sorry i thougth my message weren't in the chat because a bot responsed me.... |
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| 06:35.30 | xro | lautriv, ext3 |
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| 06:36.19 | lautriv | gancient, you see the syntax, if you edit the file there is one entry from your netinst, you may scan it to have all in. |
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| 06:37.31 | gancient | lautriv: there is a line commented out in sources.list saying netinst. |
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| 06:37.35 | Flyoc | hi, is very slow scrolling on some sites on iceweasel a known issue with debian stable/nvidia proprietary drivers ? |
| 06:37.38 | xro | lautriv, if i add a new HD on my server i'll get more inode, rigth? |
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| 06:37.56 | lautriv | xro, no more inodes points to "you have too much small files, eating all possible entries" either you change the number of inodes with tune2fs or you could use ext4 |
| 06:39.38 | xro | lautriv, yes , i have a lot off small file.... tune2fs is able to increase the number of inode? etx4 has more inode? if i add a new HD, i get more inode... Should i format it in ext4? |
| 06:40.00 | lautriv | Flyoc, nope, i'd guess your caches or network-speed is the prob. |
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| 06:40.40 | lautriv | xro, adding a new hdd does NOT solve the problem, the inode-count is given for a partition/FS |
| 06:40.44 | Flyoc | lautriv: scrolling doesn't involve any network activity... the page is fully loaded, then I scroll, and it's extremely slow |
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| 06:41.17 | Razernok | hi |
| 06:41.24 | Razernok | I am in need of help |
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| 06:41.50 | lautriv | Flyoc, try to flush iceweasel's caches nvidia here without any problems |
| 06:41.51 | Razernok | anyone here? |
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| 06:43.32 | xro | lautriv, so if i add new hd for my /var, i wont't get more inodes... i really need to add a hd on this server to get more space and i really need to get more inode! What should i do? it looks like your know this problem... |
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| 06:43.59 | Razernok | I guess not then :( |
| 06:44.24 | Razernok | no one cares to help ever :( |
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| 06:45.01 | kittonian | is it possible to tell what a client on the LAN is trying to do on the internet? basically i have a device that has 0 admin capabilities and is using dhcp to connect to the lan/internet. i can ping the device but it seems to be having problems and i need to see what ports it's trying to access and if it is being denied something it needs to work |
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| 06:45.22 | kittonian | the dhcp server is running on one of the linux servers on the lan |
| 06:45.34 | lautriv | xro, sure you can have a new hdd for /var and that will solve the problem because all inodes on your /will decrease for this amount but that are in fact 2 partitions and thus you have 2 different "max_inode" one for / and one for /var |
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| 06:46.28 | lautriv | Razernok, many people care, just ask your Question and not ask to ask |
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| 06:46.54 | xro | lautriv, okay... i improve my knowledge because of you! thanks a lot for your help and explanation! |
| 06:47.16 | Razernok | I typed 'screen' to run screen but it says -bash: screen: command not found |
| 06:47.48 | NiLon | apt-get install screen |
| 06:48.30 | lautriv | apt-get screen before use |
| 06:49.04 | Razernok | i though debian already came with it |
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| 06:49.38 | lautriv | Razernok, debian has some flavors, if screen is installed depends on your preselection |
| 06:49.59 | Razernok | i did standard system, web, and ftp |
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| 06:50.36 | lautriv | Razernok, i never installed screen but have it, squeeze her |
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| 06:54.33 | Razernok | it worked thanks |
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| 06:58.25 | Razernok | looks like debian didn't setup php correctly |
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| 06:58.29 | Razernok | grrrr |
| 06:58.47 | Razernok | no clue how to fix it though |
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| 07:03.12 | lautriv | Razernok, that PHP is a bit broader aspect, you may check also apaches setup and several modules |
| 07:03.31 | Razernok | no clue how to do that |
| 07:04.19 | lautriv | Razernok, just run something on the machine and read carefully what the errors are. |
| 07:04.40 | Razernok | Warning: session_start() [function.session-start]: Cannot send session cookie - headers already sent by (output started at /var/www/signup.php:1) in /var/www/signup.php on line 2 |
| 07:04.41 | Razernok | Warning: session_start() [function.session-start]: Cannot send session cache limiter - headers already sent (output started at /var/www/signup.php:1) in /var/www/signup.php on line 2 |
| 07:04.43 | Razernok | no clue |
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| 07:06.17 | lautriv | Razernok, that looks more like a script-fault, would be interresting what's in /var/www/signup.php |
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| 07:08.33 | Razernok | script: http://pastebin.com/93hsNTB8 |
| 07:08.50 | Razernok | i removed account info for mysql though |
| 07:09.21 | Razernok | btw, i didn't write it |
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| 07:16.19 | rashd7_ | lastday i upgraded debian from lenny to sid |
| 07:16.32 | rashd7_ | in lenny my network card is working |
| 07:16.49 | rashd7_ | bit after upgrade i lost my network card driver |
| 07:17.09 | rashd7_ | on the top taskbar it shows `no network devices found`` |
| 07:17.27 | rashd7_ | i tried all non-free firmware but issue is not solved |
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| 07:17.42 | rashd7_ | in dmesg after doing modprobe tg3 |
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| 07:18.07 | rashd7_ | it show my network card bcm5784m on eth0 in dmesg |
| 07:18.20 | rashd7_ | any help will be greatly appreciated |
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| 07:20.47 | lautriv|AFK | rashd7_, firmware moved , try to find your appropirate package for tg3-firmware, also take care to have a recent kernel because udev depends on it |
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| 07:22.24 | AlexC_ | morning |
| 07:22.56 | AlexC_ | doing an 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' has resulted in bind9-host & dnsutils being kept back. Is this normal/how can I resolve? |
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| 07:26.46 | lautriv|AFK | AlexC_, apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 07:27.39 | rashd7_ | lautriv|AFK: where can i find its firmware |
| 07:27.46 | AlexC_ | excellent, thanks :) |
| 07:28.07 | lautriv|AFK | rashd7_, wait, i will search too |
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| 07:28.33 | rashd7_ | ok |
| 07:28.46 | rashd7_ | lautriv|AFK: ready to wait |
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| 07:32.05 | lautriv|AFK | rashd7_, package name firmware-linux, in section non-free |
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| 07:38.08 | rashd7_ | lautriv|AFK: thanks |
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| 07:43.14 | ethanol | mornin' people |
| 07:43.33 | Dassu | mornin' alien |
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| 08:13.58 | trigga | where can i download cd-isos of woody or sarge? |
| 08:14.23 | Zharf | the internet |
| 08:15.05 | trigga | where exactly? |
| 08:15.17 | Zharf | why do you want those though? :o |
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| 08:15.37 | trigga | running on qemu |
| 08:15.50 | ethanol | trigga: please join the present, download lenny |
| 08:16.02 | trigga | i study for a linux certificate and it requires knowledge about usbmgr and hotplug for example |
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| 08:16.45 | comag | the driver 'AMD K10 thermal sensors' is in state 'to be written'. how to find news about it? (using lenny) |
| 08:16.55 | trigga | dont want it for productive system, dude ^^ just for study purpose |
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| 08:17.27 | ethanol | you need a whole OS just to learn about those two topics? |
| 08:17.38 | ethanol | I'm sure there a more efficient ways :< |
| 08:17.43 | ethanol | s/a/are/ |
| 08:18.35 | trigga | hm, sure but i guess installing an old old stable it is the most comfortable way |
| 08:19.59 | fr33k | Zharf: http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive .. ? |
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| 08:30.16 | rtronk | i am trying to configure debian however i am following a tutorial and dont know how to obtain the information i need to program this bind properly, i asked in #bind but no one is around or talking, is there anyone who can take a look @ this tutorial and help answer a couple questions on how i can obtain the information i need? (i know its a few simple commands i can use and a line i look for, i just dont know which commands to use o lines to loo |
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| 08:34.24 | datenritter | when i click a link in an e-mail, icedove 3.0.4 (testing) reports this: |
| 08:34.25 | datenritter | Fehler: uncaught exception: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE) [nsIExternalProtocolService.loadUrl]" nsresult: "0x80004005 (NS_ERROR_FAILURE)" location: "JS frame :: chrome://communicator/content/contentAreaClick.js :: openLinkExternally :: line 188" data: no] |
| 08:34.54 | comag | rtronk, try http://www.webmin.com/ |
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| 08:35.20 | jelly | !webmin |
| 08:35.20 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://bugs.debian.org/343897 about the removal from Debian. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. |
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| 08:35.45 | rtronk | comag i am trying to do this with OUT a control panel |
| 08:36.33 | ethanol | rtronk: bind isn't that hard, really dude |
| 08:37.23 | rtronk | no im just asking how to retreive the info i need |
| 08:37.29 | jelly | rtronk: which info? |
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| 08:38.20 | jelly | rtronk: your line had been cut off "[...] which commands to use o lines to loo" <- here |
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| 08:39.31 | rtronk | to look @. thanks in advance to anyone who can help |
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| 08:40.06 | bolt-work | rtronk: which info do you need? why not just ask for it here? |
| 08:40.20 | jelly | rtronk: you didn't actually state which information you're unable to find |
| 08:40.26 | bolt-work | er. what info |
| 08:40.32 | rtronk | Jelly, i am following this tutorial, http://wizbox.org/archives/343 i am at this part. # vim /etc/bind/named.conf.options i am lost as to what i need to put inplace of there info |
| 08:40.33 | jelly | what? |
| 08:40.53 | rtronk | allow-query { ip/24 } |
| 08:41.07 | rtronk | do i put the ip of networks i want to allow or ? |
| 08:41.10 | bolt-work | what what? |
| 08:41.28 | jelly | bolt-work: so, "what info" is correct? |
| 08:41.30 | zcat[1] | rtronk: ip and netmask, eg 192.168.0.0/16 |
| 08:43.32 | bolt-work | jelly: i think "what" is the proper word there, yes. i am norwegian though, so english is not my primary language, but i think "which" is used when selecting from a given list, like "which of these tools can do this?", and "what" is the appropriate word when the set of possible answers is unknown. "which info" would therefore, i think, imply that there is a given set of information capsules to choose from. which of course there is, but it's so large it |
| 08:43.32 | bolt-work | 's strange to talk about it that way. |
| 08:45.20 | zcat[1] | 'whicj info' will tell you that the info command is located at /usr/bin/info ;) |
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| 08:46.32 | bolt-work | zcat[1]: damn. good point :) but it also illustrates mine. which shows you which one of the limited list of executables that are in your path will be run when you type the command. which is why it's not called "what" |
| 08:47.53 | zcat[1] | I think you're right.. "which info" tells me which of potentially several binaries named 'info' will actually be run. 'what info?' is a question, what is the information you seek.. |
| 08:48.30 | bolt-work | loves being right |
| 08:49.17 | zcat[1] | I think we scared him away though |
| 08:49.58 | zcat[1] | or perhaps my answer was sifficient for him to figure it out |
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| 08:50.02 | bolt-work | and i was just about to refer him to a nice page about netmasks and such :/ |
| 08:50.03 | zcat[1] | *sufficient |
| 08:50.09 | zcat[1] | !netmask |
| 08:50.09 | dpkg | methinks netmask is the number of bits in an IP address that are the same, and a neat little program that enables one to calculate ranges, netmask pairs, CIDR lists, Cisco lists, addresses in hex, octal, binary, etc. from a address specification. see http://technical.vnnic.net.vn/tools/calc_netmask.htm |
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| 08:50.19 | zcat[1] | that one? |
| 08:50.25 | bolt-work | ah |
| 08:50.35 | bolt-work | !botsnack |
| 08:50.35 | dpkg | :), bolt-work |
| 08:50.48 | zcat[1] | !info ipcalc |
| 08:50.51 | zcat[1] | is also nice.. |
| 08:51.15 | zcat[1] | wakey wakey dpkg |
| 08:51.19 | dpkg | ipcalc: (parameter calculator for IPv4 addresses), section net, is optional. Version: 0.41-2 (sid), Packaged size: 25 kB, Installed size: 128 kB |
| 08:51.39 | artagnon | I find that suddenly after an update, the mounts specified in my /etc/fstab aren't performed before services are started. As a result, all the boot-time scripts fail (unable to find /var/... and /usr/...) -- What could be the problem? |
| 08:52.48 | zcat[1] | LOL, zcat is a one-partition kind of guy.. often I don't even bother with /home... |
| 08:52.56 | artagnon | I also have no logs about this, because /var/log isn't found and can't be written at boot time. |
| 08:53.01 | jelly | artagnon: a) devices referred to moved around b) or not present (yet) at mountall time c) or corrupt, I guess |
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| 08:53.39 | bolt-work | artagnon: what kind of mounts are these? could you pastebin your fstab perhaps? |
| 08:53.53 | jelly | artagnon: it is rather interesting your machine booted at all without operator intervention |
| 08:54.11 | artagnon | jelly: The devices are all lvm drives, so a is eliminated. I can mount them by hand after boot time. b: I find that the lvm drivers are loaded first. c: I'm on the machine right now, so eliminated. |
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| 08:54.37 | artagnon | bolt-work: http://pastebin.com/YShnJn9z |
| 08:54.59 | jelly | artagnon: which debian release? |
| 08:55.07 | artagnon | Squeeze with some Sid pinning. |
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| 08:55.31 | zcat[1] | ohhhh.. good luck with that |
| 08:55.34 | norbert_ | I'm wondering... if ClamAV has been disabled on Debian stable for over 2 months, does this mean the Debian project thinks that package isn't that important? |
| 08:55.42 | jelly | alright, as long as you don't act surprised by breakage ;-) |
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| 08:56.19 | artagnon | jelly: nah, that's alright. I'm willing to trade-off stability for cutting edge software sometimes. |
| 08:56.24 | jelly | norbert_: a usable and maintained packaging of clamav is in volatile now |
| 08:56.26 | jelly | !volatile |
| 08:56.26 | dpkg | Debian Volatile is a project that aims at keeping the <stable> and <oldstable> distributions up to date for fast moving packages such as virus scanners, spam scanners and firmware downloaders. http://www.debian.org/volatile/ An example line for your lenny sources.list is: deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free See also <volatile mirrors>. |
| 08:57.11 | norbert_ | jelly: so, Debian stable users are expected to know about volatile or visit an IRC channel to ask for more information? |
| 08:57.12 | artagnon | bolt-work: note that I can mount them by hand after the system boots |
| 08:57.14 | jelly | artagnon: does lvdisplay show all of the lvs? |
| 08:57.20 | artagnon | jelly: Yes. |
| 08:57.30 | norbert_ | or just go without clamav |
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| 08:57.41 | jelly | norbert_: yes, I think fresh installations have it enabled by default |
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| 08:58.55 | jelly | norbert_: there're also plenty of other news sources one could have found that information from, clamav breakage on April 15th was widely commented on |
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| 08:59.01 | artagnon | oh, and interestingly, as a side-effect, several of my applications are broken. mpd, for example isn't able to bind to the port on localhost |
| 08:59.18 | artagnon | but I suspect this is udev or dbus related |
| 08:59.31 | jelly | artagnon: so there's a race condition somewhere in the boot process |
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| 09:00.02 | jelly | if lvm packages changed to use udev like mdadm did, hey may have been breakage yes |
| 09:00.05 | artagnon | jelly: Yes, that's my guess too. I did switch to parallel boot sometime earlier. |
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| 09:00.13 | themill | norbert_: and if you subscribed to debian-security-announce (as you really should) then you would have received an email about this from that list prior to it being disabled/ |
| 09:00.18 | jelly | artagnon: see... you boot too fast! |
| 09:00.23 | artagnon | nods |
| 09:00.37 | artagnon | it boots under 5 seconds with everything failing/ breaking. |
| 09:00.53 | jelly | artagnon: that's what I call a qualified success |
| 09:01.04 | artagnon | smiles |
| 09:01.08 | artagnon | so what do I do now? |
| 09:01.51 | artagnon | edit /etc/init.d/rc by hand? |
| 09:02.07 | jelly | I'd check for and life tentative bugs on lvm packages, and sort out with them whose bugs exactly it is |
| 09:02.12 | jelly | file* |
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| 09:02.25 | luiss_ | Sorry I can't find /usr/src/linux in my installatioin, what pkg am I missing? |
| 09:02.40 | artagnon | luiss_: the kernel sources |
| 09:02.58 | jelly | there's probably a way to go back to serialized sysvinit but I don't know how it's done |
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| 09:03.17 | artagnon | jelly: I'll check on the Debian Wiki for that. |
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| 09:03.42 | jelly | luiss_: if you're building kernel modules, install linux-headers-$(uname -r) instead. What do you need that directory for? |
| 09:03.53 | luiss_ | artagnon: sure, but what's the name of the pksg? I can't find kernel-sources with an aptitue search kernel |
| 09:04.06 | luiss_ | jelly: to build kernel |
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| 09:04.17 | artagnon | luiss_: linux-source |
| 09:04.29 | jelly | luiss_: why? |
| 09:04.34 | luiss_ | In fact the problem is that when I connect a usb dmesg does return nothing, so I think I'm missing some module |
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| 09:05.58 | jelly | *sigh* |
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| 09:05.59 | jelly | luiss_: a usb what? |
| 09:05.59 | luiss_ | disk |
| 09:05.59 | jelly | does it have a power switch? |
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| 09:05.59 | luiss_ | jelly: no, I't powered by usb |
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| 09:05.59 | luiss_ | jelly: And the light is turned on :D |
| 09:05.59 | jelly | luiss_: does it spin up when plugged in? |
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| 09:06.52 | luiss_ | jelly: and lsusb return nothing |
| 09:06.55 | jelly | typically for usb-storage you already have all the modules you need, but it could be a special device or a buggy chipset |
| 09:07.12 | jelly | luiss_: what does "uname -r" command say? |
| 09:07.16 | luiss_ | jelly: mmm strange, it worked yesterday on my other pc.. |
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| 09:07.37 | luiss_ | jelly: uname -r: 2.6.26-2-686 |
| 09:07.39 | jelly | does that other pc have exactly have same motherboard and OS version? |
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| 09:07.58 | artagnon | jelly: Just ask dpkg "parallel boot" and it tells you how to turn it on and off :) |
| 09:07.59 | luiss_ | jelly: surely no, another OS, another mobo |
| 09:08.05 | artagnon | jelly: Thanks :) I'll reboot to test this. |
| 09:09.05 | jelly | luiss_: so it's not contrary to my point above. You could try using a newer kernel from lenny-backports, or try a different usb port for starters |
| 09:09.13 | jelly | !bpo |
| 09:09.14 | dpkg | backports.org is a semi-official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://deb.li/bpoi . A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added: "aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update". <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents> <bpo list> <backports-users> |
| 09:10.01 | luiss_ | jelly: Sorry I'm new to debian, what's a lenny-backports and how could I install a newer kernel from it? |
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| 09:10.13 | luiss_ | jelly: anyway I'm gonna try changing port :D |
| 09:10.58 | jelly | luiss_: read what dpkg said above |
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| 09:11.48 | luiss_ | jelly: Nothing new changing port, and I have only 2 ports .... |
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| 09:12.01 | artagnon | jelly: Thanks- works perfectly now :D |
| 09:13.06 | luiss_ | jelly: So I should simply add a line to my sources.list? |
| 09:13.22 | jelly | luiss_: you should read the linked instructions. |
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| 09:14.34 | gynter | any ideas what might be wrong, when eth0 shows "link is not ready" (switch shows that port is UP), eth1 is fine, drivers are e1000e, kernel is 2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 |
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| 09:15.37 | gynter | gona try with default kerneol |
| 09:16.12 | luiss_ | Sorry what's the difference between etch and lenny? |
| 09:16.16 | gintek | hello, where i can find lista all install packages in debian ? something like dpkg --get-selections but in file ? |
| 09:16.34 | artagnon | dpkg: tell luiss_ about etch, lenny |
| 09:16.40 | artagnon | dpkg: tell luiss_ about etch |
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| 09:16.47 | artagnon | dpkg: tell luiss_ about lenny |
| 09:17.26 | pikaro | hi, I've got a problem with dpkg. is this the right place to ask, or is there a more specific channel? |
| 09:17.36 | artagnon | pikaro: ask here |
| 09:17.39 | ethanol | pikaro: just ask, don't ask to ask |
| 09:17.43 | luiss_ | artagnon: I don't need a presentation, only few words to be able to choose between them :d |
| 09:17.56 | artagnon | smiles |
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| 09:18.14 | ethanol | luiss_: etch = old, support kinda stopped. lenny = new stable. |
| 09:18.26 | jelly | you weren't given a presentation. bot factoids are limited in size |
| 09:18.26 | luiss_ | ethanol: ty :D |
| 09:18.27 | ethanol | luiss_: if you're facing a new install, absolutely go with lenny. |
| 09:19.07 | gynter | hmm, seems its kernel problem |
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| 09:20.43 | pikaro | ok, thanks. well, when installing certain basic packets (mount, for instance) from the official debian servers (packets are authenticated), some of the installed executables have their permissions set to 0000. the --debug=3773 log show that for the executables in question, a "stat override, mode=0000" is applied, and I don't know why. can anyone tell me? this is giving me huge problems whenever I apt-get dist-upgrade, as some of the packets fur |
| 09:20.43 | pikaro | ther down the line depend on these executables having +x set. |
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| 09:24.41 | nima | i'm lokking for a software with ability to edut the music tracks ( cut , mix and ... ), is there any ? |
| 09:24.53 | artagnon | nima: Audacity. |
| 09:25.11 | nima | i'm looking for a software with ability to edit the music tracks ( cut , mix and ... ), is there any ? |
| 09:25.17 | nima | artagnon, just one? |
| 09:25.24 | nima | artagnon, say more plz |
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| 09:26.00 | artagnon | nima: I don't know. Just Google it; this isn't the right place to ask anyway. |
| 09:26.24 | nima | artagnon, tanx babe |
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| 09:36.38 | Posterdati | hi |
| 09:37.09 | Posterdati | please how can I configure apache2 to fetch pages from a user home directory instead of /var/www ? Tx |
| 09:37.41 | petemc_ | Posterdati: load mod userdir |
| 09:37.54 | petemc_ | a2enmod userdir , if its not loaded already |
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| 09:38.31 | Posterdati | petemc_: ok, I'm trying |
| 09:38.51 | Posterdati | Run '/etc/init.d/apache2 restart' to activate new configuration! |
| 09:38.54 | Posterdati | then? |
| 09:39.16 | petemc_ | try and serve pages from ~/public_html |
| 09:40.04 | Posterdati | which user? |
| 09:40.08 | Posterdati | root? |
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| 09:42.44 | Posterdati | shall I configure vim /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/userdir.conf |
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| 09:44.04 | petemc_ | Posterdati: what is it you want to achieve? the standard is to create a public_html directory in your users home dir, this is then viewable http://domain/~user/ |
| 09:44.24 | Posterdati | petemc_: ah ok |
| 09:44.31 | jelly | is mod_userdir enable by default? |
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| 09:45.03 | sentor | hi |
| 09:45.23 | sentor | can i migrate virtual guests from esxi to kvm? |
| 09:45.43 | \\localhost | Hi there, i have a server which runs a VM, with virt manager , i would like to clone existing vm, but the option is grey for the storage, so i can't clone it, it says "could not determine original disk information /home/kvm.../debian.img" but the file actually exists and runs fine on kvm , any ideas ? |
| 09:45.45 | Posterdati | petemc_: I need to update documents with ftp in user home |
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| 09:50.52 | Shadur | Is there any way to force apt-get to restrict itself to ipv4? We're setting up an internal ipv6 network but it doesn't have connectivity to the rest of the ipv6 internet yet, but apt-get update keeps trying to get at the ipv6 address of security.debian.org |
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| 09:54.25 | themill | Shadur: the only way I can think of would be to use custom dns resolution to only give A records for s.d.o... but that's an ugly hack at best. |
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| 09:54.41 | Shadur | Which is why I'd prefer not to do that, yeah. |
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| 09:55.35 | luiss_ | Ok, when I update the kernel will it be automagically added to bootloader or I have to manually add it? ty |
| 09:56.02 | luiss_ | jelly: btw I used backports.org instead of volatile...is it the same? |
| 09:56.08 | rsmarples | hello. can I ask quesitons about debian packaging here? or is there a better channel? |
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| 09:56.54 | bolt-work | rsmarples: you can probably ask here |
| 09:57.50 | rsmarples | ok, great. I'm upstream for dhcpcd which debian has an old package for. I recently installed ubuntu on my wifes machine a few days ago (I use NetBSD) so I have a vested interest in upgrading it |
| 09:58.36 | rsmarples | so, my question is, dhcpcd installs stuff that needs to be removed by the newer version, such as /etc/defaults/dhcpcd and others |
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| 09:58.45 | rsmarples | how can this be done? |
| 09:58.45 | HardDisk_WP | hi |
| 09:58.49 | HardDisk_WP | i have some debian PC here |
| 09:58.55 | HardDisk_WP | configured as PPP router |
| 09:58.59 | HardDisk_WP | there are some specific pages |
| 09:59.03 | HardDisk_WP | which load forever on the clients |
| 09:59.11 | HardDisk_WP | but not when i load them on the server |
| 09:59.13 | bolt-work | !tell HardDisk_WP about enter |
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| 09:59.38 | jamesstanley | I have a Xen VPS and debian keeps telling me that it wants to upgrade udev, but it can't because the running kernel doesn't support it. That's fine and I'm quite happy to keep udev back. How do I tell apt that I don't want it ever to upgrade udev? |
| 10:00.16 | bolt-work | !hold |
| 10:00.16 | dpkg | rumour has it, hold is a status flag that tells the package manager not to automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package: 'echo <package> hold|dpkg --set-selections'. It is also possible to use aptitude: 'aptitude hold <package>'. Note that the hold flag set using aptitude might be ignored by other package managers (i.e. Update Manager and Synaptic), but aptitude will respect the hold set in the dpkg database. |
| 10:00.39 | jamesstanley | so package would be "udev" or udev and a version? |
| 10:01.03 | bolt-work | <package> is the package name |
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| 10:03.32 | jamesstanley | bolt-work: after i did that it warns me that a bunch of packages can't be authenticated |
| 10:03.47 | bolt-work | jamesstanley: no public key? |
| 10:03.57 | jamesstanley | i used to have it |
| 10:04.02 | bolt-work | !no public key |
| 10:04.03 | dpkg | Seeing "There are no public keys available"? This means that the Release file has been signed by a key which you do not have. If it's signed by another key which you do have, you can ignore the warning. Otherwise, you can add the key listed *AFTER* checking the validity of the signatures on the key. Ask me about <2006 key> or <etch key> for more details. The current key will be linked at http://ftp-master.debian.org/ |
| 10:04.18 | jamesstanley | bolt-work: why would "echo udev hold | sudo dpkg --set-selections" remove the public key? |
| 10:04.34 | jamesstanley | weird... after apt-get update they are no longer unauthenticated |
| 10:04.46 | bolt-work | no problem then :D |
| 10:04.50 | jamesstanley | yeah :) |
| 10:04.59 | jamesstanley | bolt-work: thanks for the dpkg --set-selections thing, that did what I want |
| 10:05.03 | bolt-work | and there's no reason why it should do that |
| 10:05.12 | jamesstanley | ok |
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| 10:07.01 | themill | jamesstanley: do you need udev installed on the machine at all? |
| 10:07.53 | jamesstanley | i'm not sure |
| 10:08.00 | jamesstanley | i don't want to risk removing it though |
| 10:08.08 | jamesstanley | but i've never really looked in to it |
| 10:08.30 | jamesstanley | i could make a static /dev i suppose |
| 10:09.31 | tarik | Hi all |
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| 10:11.10 | tarik | I've question about redrection http to https |
| 10:11.37 | tarik | I've server apache2 works good in debian lenny |
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| 10:12.09 | bolt-work | tarik: please put your entire question and all info on one line, if possible |
| 10:12.30 | tarik | but the redirection http to https doesn't work in Internet Explorer, it works just in firfox |
| 10:12.45 | jamesstanley | tarik: if you're trying to redirect from a php script, it's as simple as header("Location: https://$_SERVER[HTTP_HOST/"); |
| 10:12.49 | tarik | bolt-work: Sorry :( |
| 10:13.03 | jamesstanley | put a closing ] on $_SERVER though |
| 10:13.37 | tarik | jamesstanley : but why it works in firfox and not in IE |
| 10:13.39 | tarik | ? |
| 10:13.40 | jamesstanley | tarik: what method are you trying to use to redirect? |
| 10:15.07 | tarik | Just i do in sites-available/default "Redirect / https:/my-ip" |
| 10:15.31 | tarik | and enabled the rewrite mod |
| 10:15.44 | jamesstanley | tarik: what is the servers hostname? |
| 10:16.00 | jamesstanley | or ip address if you don't have one |
| 10:16.52 | tarik | my ip is the local ip : 192.168.1.3 |
| 10:16.52 | jamesstanley | if you don't want to say, netcat to the server and check that a correct Location header is being returned |
| 10:17.00 | jamesstanley | tarik: does it have an internet-routable address? |
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| 10:17.14 | jelly | luiss_: for clamav, not the same. |
| 10:17.48 | tarik | jamesstanley: I'm just working in the local network |
| 10:18.02 | jamesstanley | ok, in that case you'll have to check with netcat yourself |
| 10:18.07 | jamesstanley | i'll pastebin what you need to type |
| 10:18.08 | jamesstanley | sec |
| 10:18.27 | ovb_ | tarik, just do like this: http://pastebin.com/vVa4XNt0 |
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| 10:18.45 | ovb_ | it should be work for you.. |
| 10:18.46 | kronic | anyone managed to setup samba 4 on lenny? |
| 10:18.53 | jamesstanley | tarik: http://aw.eso.me.uk/p/?show=f1520ae57 |
| 10:19.18 | jamesstanley | and then you should get back HTTP/1.1 30x where x is some number and there should be a "Location: " header |
| 10:19.36 | jelly | luiss_: hm, I don't see anyone suggesting you to use volatile; there are no kernels there afaik |
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| 10:21.19 | rsmarples | bolt-work: so no ideads about my packaging question? |
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| 10:36.29 | tarik | Thanks jamesstanley & ovb_ it works :) |
| 10:36.42 | jamesstanley | what did you do? |
| 10:37.08 | jamesstanley | oh ovb_ posted rewrite engine stuff |
| 10:37.11 | jamesstanley | i missed that |
| 10:37.59 | ovb_ | :) |
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| 10:40.22 | pozic | Is there any package with a manpage for man ciso646? |
| 10:41.01 | petemc_ | manpages-dev ? |
| 10:41.07 | petemc_ | (thats a guess, obv) |
| 10:41.59 | pozic | petemc_: there is also a posix version of that which probably has it. Thanks. |
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| 10:42.08 | petemc_ | np |
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| 10:43.52 | pozic | petemc: it doesn't, but, never mind. |
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| 10:48.35 | lenonidas | Greetings, I have just installed debian lenny (cd) but has no network manager. how can I get it? since I can't connect from debian to the internet? |
| 10:48.48 | lenonidas | I want to setup a pppoe connection but don't want to use sudo pppoeconf |
| 10:48.58 | lenonidas | As I had troubles with it back on Ubuntu. |
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| 10:49.44 | lenonidas | Excuse me, internet problem. |
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| 10:50.56 | egwwebdav | how i can stop 10 ip that are executing an script into my webserver? |
| 10:51.01 | egwwebdav | the script now dont exist |
| 10:51.18 | egwwebdav | but the ip all day are trying to execute, i put fail2ban but nothing |
| 10:51.19 | jamesstanley | are you dsfsf from yesterday? |
| 10:51.38 | egwwebdav | yes |
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| 10:51.45 | jamesstanley | have you reinstalled from a clean image? |
| 10:52.13 | egwwebdav | no but i see the script that have the bug |
| 10:52.17 | jamesstanley | egwwebdav: when we say that, we're not trying to waste your time or annoy you. it is really the only thing you can do |
| 10:52.32 | petemc | egwwebdav: iptables or even 'ip route add prohibit <ip addr>' |
| 10:52.32 | egwwebdav | but i solve the script |
| 10:52.47 | egwwebdav | but there are many different ip's |
| 10:52.59 | jamesstanley | petemc: his machine has been compromised |
| 10:53.02 | petemc | oh |
| 10:53.06 | jamesstanley | he was on here yesterday |
| 10:53.20 | egwwebdav | but i remove all malicious scripts |
| 10:53.34 | jamesstanley | then what's the problem with the people trying to execute it? |
| 10:53.38 | lenonidas | I had internet problems, do I need to state my questions again to get an answer? |
| 10:53.40 | jamesstanley | they'll go away when they find that it's not there any more |
| 10:53.55 | egwwebdav | i hope.. |
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| 10:54.02 | egwwebdav | and i see this entry in my log: /w00tw00t.at.ISC.SANS.DFind |
| 10:54.08 | jamesstanley | egwwebdav: that is nothing to worry about |
| 10:54.13 | egwwebdav | ok |
| 10:54.19 | jamesstanley | that's just some people trying to tarnish the ISC's reputation |
| 10:54.28 | egwwebdav | and now for filter spam, spamassassin its the best option? |
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| 10:54.44 | jamesstanley | i use bogofilter but i'm under the impression that spamassassin is the de facto standard |
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| 10:55.05 | egwwebdav | but i need some else like calmdav ? |
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| 10:55.22 | lgeetj | Im having a server (HP ProLiant ML 115 G1 ) and Im having problem with my graphiccard driver |
| 10:55.23 | jamesstanley | i don't know. i don't run any form of antivirus |
| 10:55.49 | lenonidas | I had installed debian lenny i386 on my laptop. The problem is that i have no network manager so I can't configure my pppoe connection, what do I do? |
| 10:55.49 | lgeetj | what the easiest way to fix this |
| 10:55.57 | koollman | egwwebdav: my current 'default' for spam is using amavisd-new (which integrate well with postfix, spamassassin and clamav), and postfix-gld (for greylisting) |
| 10:56.13 | lgeetj | what woild be the easiest way for fixing this |
| 10:56.13 | egwwebdav | i use postfix |
| 10:56.22 | egwwebdav | amavisd-new? |
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| 10:56.55 | jamesstanley | lgeetj: you might get more help if you describe the problem in a little more detail |
| 10:56.58 | egwwebdav | and its difficult to configurate? i dont want to put to SPAM some mails that aren't |
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| 10:57.52 | egwwebdav | koollman: but you use spamassassin, amavisd-new and clamav? |
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| 11:00.16 | ethanol | not sure if this can be discussed here, but the commented lines work -- however the alternative I am trying does not (skipping file, trying to passs pdf string straight to `lp`); pastie here: http://pastebin.com/ta6aZu37 |
| 11:00.26 | ethanol | wondering if I perhaps am passing the string to lp the wrong way |
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| 11:04.28 | lenonidas | Anyone here familiar with pppoe? |
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| 11:06.00 | lgeetj | when the logine session (gnome) starts my monitor goes blank and prints cant get signal |
| 11:06.24 | lgeetj | as far as Im using th etext terminal run level then the system works fine |
| 11:06.33 | lgeetj | by cant get X11 to start |
| 11:06.49 | lgeetj | guess I'm missing drivers for my graphiccard |
| 11:07.17 | jamesstanley | did you write xorg.conf manually? |
| 11:07.27 | jamesstanley | if so, try renaming it to xorg.conf.backup and see if it works |
| 11:07.34 | jamesstanley | xorg seems to magically configure itself these days |
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| 11:07.54 | lgeetj | no I didn't configure it manually |
| 11:08.29 | lgeetj | so I should rename xorg.conf to xorg.conf.backup |
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| 11:08.43 | lenonidas | I know I should RTFM but can please someone assist me in getting my internet up so I can RTFM in peace? |
| 11:08.44 | lgeetj | and then try to run the system again? |
| 11:09.27 | lgeetj | so the problem can reside in the configurations file name? |
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| 11:09.31 | lgeetj | sounds strange |
| 11:10.44 | lenonidas | I know this is a dumb question but is there anyone that can assist me in fixing my issue? |
| 11:10.58 | abrotman | which issue? |
| 11:11.18 | lenonidas | I asked for many times, I do not wish to spam this channel |
| 11:11.41 | lenonidas | abrotman, I installed debian lenny on my dell inspiron 1545 but can't get internet running. |
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| 11:11.59 | lenonidas | abrotman, I use pppoe, when boting for the first time in gnome, I see no network manager |
| 11:12.07 | lenonidas | abrotman, isn't this coming by default? |
| 11:12.13 | abrotman | lenonidas: did you install it? |
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| 11:12.24 | abrotman | doesn't your system have pppoeconf ? |
| 11:12.24 | lenonidas | abrotman, What, the network manager? |
| 11:12.25 | lgeetj | any help with my missing driver? |
| 11:12.37 | abrotman | judd: versions network-manager |
| 11:12.39 | mrfoobar | W: mdadm: I am supposed to start md1 from the initial ramdisk, |
| 11:12.39 | judd | network-manager -- etch: 0.6.4-6+etch1; etch-security: 0.6.4-6+etch1; lenny: 0.6.6-3; lenny-backports: 0.7.2-2~bpo50+1; sid: 0.8-1; squeeze: 0.8-1 |
| 11:12.39 | mrfoobar | W: mdadm: yet I cannot find the array in the configuration file. |
| 11:12.39 | mrfoobar | W: mdadm: I am thus reverting to starting all arrays. |
| 11:12.50 | mrfoobar | why is update-initramfs saying that shit? |
| 11:13.00 | lenonidas | abrotman, I could use sudo pppoeconf too isn't it? |
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| 11:13.28 | lenonidas | abrotman, But I am affraid to use this as I had ubuntu installed and when using this command, it would overwrite my network manager and it became useless |
| 11:13.37 | lenonidas | I do not wish to compromise my system :) |
| 11:13.42 | frostschutz | mrfoobar: I guess because you don't have md1 defined in your mdadm.conf? |
| 11:13.47 | abrotman | lenonidas: have you ever used network-manager on Debian to this point? |
| 11:13.52 | lenonidas | I can't install anything since I have no internet on it... |
| 11:14.02 | mrfoobar | frostschutz: yes i do |
| 11:14.22 | lenonidas | abrotman, No, I went in system I think and I found there "network" but it is only for wired network...with ip and.... |
| 11:14.23 | frostschutz | no clue then :P :) |
| 11:14.34 | lenonidas | abrotman, I don't have an ip since I get it automatically. |
| 11:14.42 | abrotman | lenonidas: i'd try using pppoeconf |
| 11:14.55 | lenonidas | abrotman, ok and then to get network manager? |
| 11:15.44 | abrotman | worry about your internet first |
| 11:15.48 | lenonidas | abrotman, I know debian is not for beginners...but I changed because of the stability of this operating system :) |
| 11:15.50 | lenonidas | Ok |
| 11:15.51 | lenonidas | :) |
| 11:16.04 | jelly | mrfoobar: which debian release / version of mdadm package? I've seen some bugs in testing and sid where initramfs hooks didn't quite use mdadm.conf correctly |
| 11:16.06 | lenonidas | abrotman, Thank you so much and excuse me. |
| 11:16.34 | lenonidas | abrotman, I will go try and see if I can get my internet up and running :) |
| 11:17.24 | abrotman | lenonidas: once you get pppoeconf going, you can come back and ask more questions .. it seems a logical first step |
| 11:17.35 | mrfoobar | jelly: stable |
| 11:17.58 | mrfoobar | my mdadm is Version: 2.6.7.2-3 |
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| 11:19.24 | mrfoobar | http://pastebin.com/RujqchHF |
| 11:19.28 | mrfoobar | thats what my mdadm.conf looks like |
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| 11:22.06 | WormFood | I'm trying to use winff under debian, and from what I read, it is supposed to have a "DVD" output option (mpeg2), but there is no "DVD" option...anyone know what is wrong? Winff is supposed to be a front end for ffmpeg |
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| 11:23.14 | jelly | mrfoobar: curious, does it work differently if each ARRAY definition is on a single line? |
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| 11:24.19 | abrotman | WormFood: are you using Debian's ffmpeg ? |
| 11:24.24 | mrfoobar | so: ARRAY /dev/md1 level=raid1 num-devices=2 UUID=d57193cf:dc95152f:58c838a8:1df60b51 |
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| 11:24.35 | WormFood | yes, i think so |
| 11:24.45 | abrotman | it's probably got some stuff missing due to copyright crap |
| 11:24.52 | WormFood | I do have the mulitmedia source added |
| 11:24.55 | mrfoobar | jelly: no that didn't help |
| 11:25.05 | WormFood | ahhh...how do I install the alternate ffmpeg? |
| 11:25.23 | xro | hi, i want to replace my /var with a new HD... someone knows a tutorial about that? |
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| 11:25.34 | petemc | handbrake > * |
| 11:25.46 | WormFood | petemc, I also use handbrake |
| 11:26.14 | mrfoobar | its broken! |
| 11:26.23 | WormFood | handbrake is great for converting videos for my PSP and my cell phone (which does not work...never buy Nokia again, those cocksuckers wouldn't fix it under warranty, and it was still under warranty) |
| 11:26.33 | mrfoobar | and its broken on lenny, thats really bad |
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| 11:28.03 | mrfoobar | where do i find the mdadm hook code for initramfs-tools? |
| 11:28.11 | jelly | mrfoobar: what does /proc/mdstat look like? |
| 11:28.34 | mrfoobar | http://pastebin.com/gkN9LqmQ |
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| 11:30.19 | abrotman | xro: in short, you'd boot single user, mount them both in different mount points, move the data over *correctly*, change your fstab, reboot, live happily ever after |
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| 11:32.00 | guyzmo | hi |
| 11:32.14 | guyzmo | I'm installing debian squeeze on a netbook |
| 11:32.29 | xro | abrotman, yes in theorie it's easy but i never do it and it is on a production server... so, if i could have an tutorial.... |
| 11:32.39 | guyzmo | but the installer can't find a driver for the network card, which is an intel card |
| 11:32.49 | abrotman | !tel guyzmo about kmuto |
| 11:32.55 | abrotman | oh squeeze, nevermind |
| 11:33.01 | abrotman | guyzmo: make sure oyu're using a daily, not the alpha |
| 11:33.07 | guyzmo | ah ok |
| 11:33.15 | guyzmo | I think I got the alpha |
| 11:34.15 | jamesstanley | <lgeetj> so the problem can reside in the configurations file name? |
| 11:34.23 | jamesstanley | lgeetj: i meant if you had written your own xorg.conf, get it out of the way |
| 11:34.30 | jamesstanley | i suggested renaming it so that you wouldn't lose the contents entirely |
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| 11:34.50 | gancient | wants to thank the #debian folks, today morning i just had a CLI , now with #debian's help. gancient is running fluxbox+kdm+iceweasel :) |
| 11:34.52 | jamesstanley | but you didn't write it yourself so you don't have to |
| 11:35.02 | mrfoobar | so i wonder where can i find update-initramfs hooks? |
| 11:35.08 | jamesstanley | gancient: dw, you'll get quicker ;) |
| 11:35.50 | gancient | jamesstanley: :) |
| 11:36.19 | abrotman | guyzmo: did you find the right one ? |
| 11:36.54 | gancient | must tell all new people in the room, do not give up . #debian is just an irssi away ;) |
| 11:37.26 | jamesstanley | assuming you have networking |
| 11:37.31 | jamesstanley | sucks for the people struggling with wifi :P |
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| 11:38.00 | gancient | jamesstanley: +1 i am on eth0 , lucky me :) |
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| 11:39.08 | gancient | what packages must i install to have a kde 4.4 desktop running ? |
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| 11:39.21 | abrotman | on lenny? |
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| 11:39.49 | gancient | abrotman: on squeeze, testing |
| 11:40.07 | abrotman | judd: versions kde-base |
| 11:40.08 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'kde-base' was found. |
| 11:40.10 | abrotman | judd: versions kdebase |
| 11:40.11 | judd | kdebase -- etch-security: 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6etch1; etch: 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6etch2; etch-backports: 4:3.5.7-4~bpo40+1; lenny: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6; lenny-security: 4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6+lenny1; squeeze: 5:61; sid: 5:62 |
| 11:40.16 | abrotman | bleh |
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| 11:40.33 | abrotman | gancient: it already has 4.4 |
| 11:40.55 | gancient | abrotman: i installed using netinst CD |
| 11:41.15 | abrotman | if you want kde, install kde-full perhaps |
| 11:41.15 | GingerDog | if i have a server running etch, and i'm trying to avoid moving to lenny right now - yet need apache2 from lenny, is apt pining my best approach wrt mixing the two repositories up? |
| 11:41.23 | mrfoobar | ok so its /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/mdadm |
| 11:41.53 | lindi- | GingerDog: i'd recommend chroot |
| 11:42.38 | gancient | abrotman: ok got it :) thanks. |
| 11:42.50 | GingerDog | lindi-: a chroot to stick the lenny packages in? hmm any obvious docs? |
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| 11:43.04 | lindi- | GingerDog: iki.fi/lindi/schroot.txt |
| 11:43.07 | xro | hi, i would like to replace my /var with a new HD... Someone could check my method to do it? --> http://dpaste.com/205129 |
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| 11:44.14 | guyzmo | abrotman - well, I'm downloading it and copying it to usb and then on installation I'll know :) |
| 11:44.27 | jamesstanley | xro: on "mv /var /mnt/hda2" you will need to firstly "mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2" and secondly I think "cp -r /var/ /mnt/hda2" |
| 11:44.30 | jamesstanley | instead of mv |
| 11:44.35 | abrotman | xro: you forgot to mount your new /var/ |
| 11:44.54 | abrotman | would mv instead of cp .. but whatever |
| 11:44.55 | jamesstanley | mount -a mounts it at the end, but he forgot to mount it on /mnt/hda2 |
| 11:45.31 | jamesstanley | abrotman: but then you lose the old copy, no? |
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| 11:45.45 | abrotman | no, you've just moved it |
| 11:45.48 | guyzmo | abrotman - btw, I got another netbook that has the same NIC, would it be possible to just grab the missing .ko and copy it to the usb key where it belongs ? if it's possible, where does it belongs ?:) |
| 11:45.48 | mrfoobar | jelly: maybe its the fact that my array is degredad? |
| 11:46.02 | abrotman | guyzmo: kernel versions very much do not match |
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| 11:47.14 | guyzmo | abrotman - hum... then let's see if I'm in luck or not :) |
| 11:47.35 | jelly | mrfoobar: yes, but it's still a bug |
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| 11:57.39 | abrotman | guyzmo: how did you make out? |
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| 12:23.34 | orzo | i would like my system to automount usb drives as read-only and let them be removed at any time |
| 12:23.45 | orzo | until i tell it i want write-access |
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| 12:25.00 | aguitel | how reconfigure power management ? |
| 12:25.15 | abrotman | to do what? |
| 12:25.20 | lgeetj | I have hp server whichs graphiccard doesn't work, I can only run debian in text mode |
| 12:25.33 | abrotman | lgeetj: which graphics card? |
| 12:25.37 | abrotman | lspci | grep VGA |
| 12:25.41 | abrotman | lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 12:25.44 | jelly | servers need no X anyway :> |
| 12:25.47 | abrotman | wonders why a server would have a GUI anyways |
| 12:25.48 | lgeetj | what's the easiest way to get this to start running with X |
| 12:26.14 | nevyn | hrm |
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| 12:26.16 | nevyn | abrotman: so management think they're getting value for money. |
| 12:26.17 | nevyn | srsly. |
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| 12:26.21 | jelly | if it's a proliant it'll either have a ragepro or a radeon chip |
| 12:26.23 | lgeetj | HP ProLiant ML 115 G1: this is the server name |
| 12:26.36 | abrotman | nevyn: ROFLMAOCOPTERWTFBBQ ? |
| 12:26.44 | abrotman | mgmt likes acronyms :) |
| 12:26.51 | jelly | abrotman: COPTER? |
| 12:27.01 | abrotman | lgeetj: lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 12:27.08 | abrotman | jelly: roflcopter! |
| 12:27.19 | jelly | !roflcopter |
| 12:27.20 | dpkg | http://members.cox.net/pimpbot9000/roflcopter.htm |
| 12:27.34 | jelly | 404 :'( |
| 12:27.35 | ix | !404 |
| 12:27.36 | dpkg | 404 is probably not found |
| 12:27.44 | ix | damn right. |
| 12:27.46 | jelly | dpkg: forget 404 |
| 12:27.47 | dpkg | jelly: i forgot 404 |
| 12:28.03 | jelly | !404 |
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| 12:29.04 | lgeetj | lspci | grep VGA = VGA compatible controller: Matrox Graphics, Inc MGA G200 [Pilot] ServerEngines |
| 12:29.35 | jelly | lgeetj: what about that -nn part! |
| 12:30.06 | lgeetj | (SEP1) (rev 02) |
| 12:30.18 | jelly | sigh |
| 12:30.19 | lgeetj | did you mean that part? |
| 12:31.00 | aguitel | abrotman, the power management is not working fine in my system ,i am in sqieeze |
| 12:31.05 | abrotman | lgeetj: that is not the -nn part |
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| 12:31.14 | abrotman | aguitel: make sure acpi and acpid are installed |
| 12:31.16 | jelly | lgeetj: the pci id (hex [1234:5678] number) is the most useful datum in a lspci -nn line |
| 12:31.27 | abrotman | lgeetj: that card should work fine .. unless they abandoned the MGA drivers |
| 12:31.39 | abrotman | that server must be from like 2001 |
| 12:31.49 | jelly | G1 is rather old |
| 12:32.03 | lgeetj | yes it's atleast 4 years old |
| 12:32.11 | lgeetj | any idea what I should do? |
| 12:32.18 | aguitel | abrotman, they are |
| 12:32.34 | jelly | lgeetj: how exactly does X fail to start? |
| 12:32.53 | lgeetj | no signal to the monitor at all |
| 12:33.06 | mquin | fwiw I'm using an ML115 G5, which appears to use the same graphics chip |
| 12:33.10 | lgeetj | I have to hit cntrl alt f1 and just work in the terminal |
| 12:33.10 | jelly | lgeetj: have you tried a different monitor? |
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| 12:33.33 | abrotman | lgeetj: what is in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? |
| 12:33.44 | abrotman | mquin: with X ? |
| 12:33.46 | lgeetj | I got other debian machines to work with the same monitor / kvm swithc |
| 12:34.08 | mquin | abrotman: yes |
| 12:34.10 | aguitel | abrotman, the question is :when i put the display to sleep when the system is inactive for example 5 minutes ,is not working |
| 12:34.35 | abrotman | aguitel: i don't understand that .. can you rephrase? |
| 12:34.37 | jelly | dpkg: no, roflcopter is http://web.archive.org/web/20040426034529/http://members.cox.net/pimpbot9000/roflcopter.htm |
| 12:34.37 | dpkg | jelly: okay |
| 12:34.39 | lgeetj | it's the standard configuration |
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| 12:34.47 | abrotman | tries to get themill to translate |
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| 12:35.53 | aguitel | abrotman, sorry for my english , i want to shutdwon the display when the system in inactive ,but is not working |
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| 12:36.06 | lgeetj | how could I check to see if the problem resides in the graphiccard or the monitor? |
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| 12:36.45 | abrotman | aguitel: not all cards/monitors support that .. which WM/DE are you using? or is this CLI? |
| 12:36.55 | jelly | lgeetj: is it possible to connect it directly to a monitor to test, not using KVM? |
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| 12:37.13 | lgeetj | yes I did that and the same problem even there |
| 12:37.29 | aguitel | abrotman, at the last week is working |
| 12:37.39 | abrotman | aguitel: so what did you change? |
| 12:37.52 | jordanm | aguitel: you can probaby do that with any screensaver app |
| 12:37.56 | aguitel | abrotman, only regulars updates |
| 12:38.09 | jordanm | aguitel: of what release? |
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| 12:38.12 | abrotman | aguitel: aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade .. does it want to install anything ? |
| 12:38.20 | aguitel | abrotman, screensaver is disable |
| 12:38.28 | jelly | lgeetj: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log, please. Also /etc/X11/xorg.conf if it exists |
| 12:38.28 | aguitel | abrotman, yes |
| 12:38.38 | lgeetj | I wonder if it could help to install debian i386 instead of amd64 which is installed right now |
| 12:38.42 | aguitel | abrotman, nothing more |
| 12:38.47 | jordanm | jelly: soon we need to worry about xorg.conf.d/ :) |
| 12:38.58 | abrotman | aguitel: uname -r ? |
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| 12:39.30 | aguitel | abrotman, 2.6.32-3-686 |
| 12:39.38 | jelly | jordanm: soon? squeeze+1 will be in like 2013 |
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| 12:40.00 | jelly | _if_ we're lucky |
| 12:40.03 | jordanm | jelly: no... 2010-12-15 |
| 12:40.04 | lgeetj | would i386 and amd64 iso of debian make any difference? |
| 12:40.10 | jordanm | !squeeze pool 1 |
| 12:40.11 | dpkg | ! <craigevil>=2010-08-30 Selveste1=2011-06-10 NiLon=2010-10-12 rvsjoen=2010-07-15 jordanm=2010-12-15 icebrain=2010-06-01 tabashco=2010-11-22 <rmayorga>=2011-1-17 jelly=2010-09-29 dpalacio=2010-08-03 cydork=2010-07-10 CutMeOwnThroat=2010-06-15 enouf=2010-04-01 themill=2010-05-30 valdyn=2010-06-15 rohan=2010-12-06 abrotman=2010-10-02 gsimmons=2010-09-03 |
| 12:40.16 | abrotman | hiya! |
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| 12:40.38 | themill | wonders if he should put a typo in there to save the gratuitous highlights |
| 12:40.41 | abrotman | lgeetj: lspci -nn | grep VGA .. what is the xxxx:1234 part ? |
| 12:41.02 | jelly | lgeetj: probably not |
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| 12:41.12 | abrotman | aguitel: and this is console or X ? |
| 12:41.27 | aguitel | abrotman, X |
| 12:41.31 | jelly | themill: you already have a typo, s/2010/2011/ |
| 12:41.45 | abrotman | aguitel: gnome? kde? |
| 12:41.50 | abrotman | jelly: i sitll have four months! |
| 12:41.56 | themill | jelly: it was a reasonable bet 12 months ago when I made it! |
| 12:42.01 | aguitel | abrotman, gnome |
| 12:42.04 | jelly | themill: you should have known better |
| 12:42.08 | themill | ;( |
| 12:42.25 | abrotman | aguitel: and you've checked in the Gnome power settings and gnome screensaver settings? |
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| 12:42.37 | aguitel | abrotman, yes |
| 12:42.38 | jelly | next time, I'm adding 6 months to my pessimist bet |
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| 12:42.50 | themill | I made it after the release team announced "We freeze in December" but before the ensuing flamewar that killed the idea. Race conditions 101. |
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| 12:43.21 | abrotman | yay flame war |
| 12:43.33 | abrotman | aguitel: and if you `aptitude install gnome` ? |
| 12:43.36 | jelly | !start a freeze war |
| 12:43.54 | abrotman | MR FREEZE! |
| 12:44.14 | eryn_1983 | hey peeps |
| 12:44.22 | eryn_1983 | can somebody help me with syslog-ng |
| 12:44.30 | eryn_1983 | http://pastebin.com/jCihrcuk |
| 12:44.38 | aguitel | abrotman, it install a lot of software |
| 12:44.42 | eryn_1983 | are my filters too narrow |
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| 12:45.11 | abrotman | aguitel: you might need some of that |
| 12:45.12 | nascentmind | >hi. I am trying to setup a small package in my local repository. I have set my sources.list file as -> deb http://localhost mypackage/ . When I do a apt-get install mypackage i get failed to fetch http://localhost/./mypackage 404 not found. How can i fix this? |
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| 12:45.57 | jelly | nascentmind: why http://? |
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| 12:46.15 | nascentmind | because i want other machines to access those packages too. |
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| 12:46.42 | aguitel | abrotman, i am dooing |
| 12:47.06 | themill | nascentmind: "--print-uris" and check that you've actually got the .deb in the right place. |
| 12:47.59 | nascentmind | themill: i have written above -> http://localhost/./mypackage why is there a . in between? |
| 12:48.26 | jelly | you put it there! :-) |
| 12:48.49 | jelly | perhaps you meant deb http://localhost/mypackage/ . |
| 12:48.53 | nascentmind | jelly: no. when i do a apt-get it tries to fetch from that. |
| 12:49.26 | nascentmind | my directory structure is /var/www/mypackage with all the debs in there |
| 12:49.41 | jelly | and how do you create the Packages file? |
| 12:50.01 | nascentmind | dpkg-scanpackages |
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| 12:50.20 | themill | nascentmind: the dot is there because that's what's in your sources.list entry. The dot doesn't hurt any sane httpd. "/msg dpkg own repo" -- it sounds like your Packages file is pointing to the wrong place. |
| 12:50.23 | jelly | nevyn: exact command line, please, and its working directory |
| 12:50.34 | jelly | nascentmind: exact command line, please, and its working directory |
| 12:50.38 | jelly | %#$^ |
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| 12:51.41 | nascentmind | dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null | gzip -9c > Packages.gz |
| 12:51.46 | jelly | yeah |
| 12:51.48 | nascentmind | my directory is my home dir |
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| 12:52.29 | jelly | nah, I believe you run that command while in /var/www/mypackage, is that not true? |
| 12:52.39 | nascentmind | then i move my Packages.gz and deb files to /var/www/mypackage |
| 12:52.54 | nascentmind | jelly: is it? let me check doing that. |
| 12:53.11 | jpinx-eeepc | nascentmind: use the full path to the package, not ./ |
| 12:53.26 | jelly | nascentmind: should't matter, since you're scanning a relative path |
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| 12:53.35 | jelly | nascentmind: your sources.list line has a typo |
| 12:53.40 | abrotman | aguitel: any luck ? |
| 12:53.56 | jelly | nascentmind: you want "deb http://localhost/mypackage/ ." not "deb http://localhost mypackage/ ." |
| 12:54.15 | aguitel | abrotman, is installing all gnome stuff |
| 12:55.14 | jpinx-eeepc | nascentmind: and it depends on where you have apache pointing http requests - did you leave the default? |
| 12:55.31 | jelly | jpinx-eeepc: no need for all that... ./ works fine |
| 12:55.48 | nascentmind | jpinx-eeepc: i left it as default |
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| 12:59.19 | nascentmind | jelly: i had not put the . at the end. |
| 13:00.00 | nascentmind | jelly: not "deb http://localhost mypackage/ ." <- the dot there. What's the difference between the two things? |
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| 13:00.17 | jelly | nascentmind: nevertheless |
| 13:00.57 | srinivasa | hi |
| 13:01.00 | nascentmind | jelly: if i use the first one i.e. deb http://localhost/mypackage . it says malformed line |
| 13:01.31 | jelly | nascentmind: hm, make that "./" instead of "." then |
| 13:02.05 | nascentmind | ah works now |
| 13:02.06 | jelly | nascentmind: needs to be the same directory you used for dpkg-scanpackage |
| 13:03.10 | nascentmind | jelly: i didn't do the dpkg-scanpackage in /var/www/mypackage |
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| 13:03.10 | nascentmind | jelly: but it works |
| 13:03.10 | jelly | nascentmind: used as argument |
| 13:03.14 | Burps | Hi : I just bought a new asus laptop, but can't setup resolution to 1368*768 (2.6.34 self compiled....) in debian. It *works* with *buntu, but I there is no xorg.conf in *buntu to copy : is it possible to "guess" a working xorg.conf from Xorg.0.log from ubuntu ? |
| 13:03.34 | jelly | nascentmind: dpkg-scanpackage . <-- directory /dev/null <-- override file |
| 13:04.05 | nascentmind | yes done that. dpkg-scanpackage . /dev/null | gzip -9c > Packages.gz |
| 13:04.24 | nascentmind | jelly: it works fine now. thanks :) |
| 13:04.47 | jelly | nascentmind: that directory there and the directory as offset from URL in "deb URL directory/" are the same now |
| 13:06.30 | nascentmind | yes. |
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| 13:06.30 | ntz_prg | hi there |
| 13:06.33 | nascentmind | one more thing. during installation if i have file name which has the same file as some other installation it returns an error? |
| 13:06.44 | nascentmind | even though the package containing that filename is not installed. |
| 13:06.46 | ntz_prg | anyone for epic insulting fight with real solaris/bsd evangelist? |
| 13:06.51 | ntz_prg | :D |
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| 13:09.26 | orzo | is there a utility that will let me mount tar or zip archives as read-only file systems? |
| 13:10.04 | nascentmind | when i try to install it says trying to overwrite /usr/lib/filename which is also in package somepackage. |
| 13:10.06 | mrfoobar | awwwmaaaaan i found another bug in the initramfs hooks on lenny |
| 13:10.10 | mrfoobar | Calling hook cryptroot |
| 13:10.10 | mrfoobar | find: warning: Unix filenames usually don't contain slashes (though pathnames do). That means that '-name `/lib/cryptsetup/scripts/passdev-*.ko'' will probably evaluate to false all the time on this system. You might find the '-wholename' test more useful, or perhaps '-samefile'. Alternatively, if you are using GNU grep, you could use 'find ... -print0 | grep -FzZ `/lib/cryptsetup/scripts/passdev-*.ko''. |
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| 13:10.18 | mrfoobar | someones using the find command wrong |
| 13:10.22 | eryn_1983 | ugh i can't get it to work |
| 13:10.27 | eryn_1983 | stupid syslog-ng |
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| 13:11.26 | mrfoobar | why does crap like this end up in lenny |
| 13:11.43 | masu3701__ | i sale computers ...is there any database type software i can use organize my inventory and track my stuff..am tired of using excel |
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| 13:14.34 | mrfoobar | how do i take a peek inside a initrd image? |
| 13:14.55 | petemc | !initrd contents |
| 13:15.00 | petemc | hmm |
| 13:15.23 | petemc | !initrd modules |
| 13:15.23 | dpkg | initrd modules is probably zcat /boot/initrd.img-`uname -r` | cpio -t | grep ko$; |
| 13:16.28 | eryn_1983 | is there anything better then syslog-ng? |
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| 13:17.08 | mrfoobar | well there we go |
| 13:17.16 | djura-san | o/ |
| 13:17.37 | mrfoobar | the damn cryptroot hook fails to put in the passdev modules |
| 13:18.33 | mrfoobar | for file in $(find "$MODULESDIR/kernel/crypto/" -name "${mod}_generic.ko"); do |
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| 13:19.21 | ntz_prg | mrfoobar: do what? |
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| 13:20.21 | mrfoobar | for somereason the $mod becomes "/lib/cryptsetup/scripts/passdev" |
| 13:20.30 | mrfoobar | and that pretty much fucks it up |
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| 13:21.52 | jelly | s , ${mod} , $(basename ${mod}) , ? |
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| 13:22.26 | mrfoobar | seems that nobody even bothered to test this shit on lenny |
| 13:22.32 | jelly | it happens |
| 13:22.40 | mrfoobar | it works on sid and testing |
| 13:22.53 | jelly | so it was fixed in the meantime |
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| 13:23.42 | jelly | stacking different less-used technologies means less tested code paths |
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| 13:24.06 | jelly | md, lvm, crypt, *boom* |
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| 13:25.05 | nascentmind | jelly: does apt complain if 2 packages have the same filenames? |
| 13:25.23 | mrfoobar | i tested it on testing before doing with lenny |
| 13:25.23 | nascentmind | jelly: can i override the complaining? |
| 13:25.30 | mrfoobar | worked on the first try |
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| 13:25.41 | jelly | nascentmind: dpkg --force-overwrite |
| 13:25.49 | mrfoobar | but with lenny theres crapppp everywhere |
| 13:26.11 | jelly | !tell nascentmind abotu force overwrite |
| 13:26.21 | nascentmind | jelly: in apt? |
| 13:26.28 | jelly | !tell nascentmind about force overwrite |
| 13:26.57 | jelly | nascentmind: got the message from dpkg now? |
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| 13:27.18 | masu3701 | i sale computers ...is there any database type software i can use organize my inventory and track my stuff..am tired of using excel |
| 13:27.20 | Soileh | What would you guys suggest for a http server that serves only images/flash files/etc - does no processing just serves |
| 13:27.47 | mquin | thttpd is good for that sort of application |
| 13:28.37 | mquin | I've heard encouraging things about lighttpd but it's not something I've used myself |
| 13:28.37 | nascentmind | jelly: ah got it. |
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| 13:28.51 | Soileh | Hmm yeh I was looking at light |
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| 13:33.15 | jordanm | if I have a bug that matches the description of an existing bug exactly but is not the same behavior, should I file a new bug or comment on the existing one? |
| 13:33.18 | lite1 | can someone give me some advice on the debian install |
| 13:33.58 | lite1 | i have all 6 dvds and the part where it ask u to scan them i did that part, but how do you select packages or install from the other disks? |
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| 13:34.44 | jordanm | lite1: it asks you which tasks you would like to select towards the end of the installation. You can't (AFAIK) install all 6 DVDs from the installer (nor would you want to) |
| 13:34.56 | jordanm | lite1: those DVDs include _all_ the packages in debian main |
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| 13:35.26 | jordanm | most users want the 150mb netinst CD |
| 13:35.37 | lite1 | by the tasks you dont mean like where it says network, ddatabase, etc |
| 13:35.38 | abrotman | dpkg: punish pseubodot |
| 13:35.39 | dpkg | cuts pseubodot's balls off, slices them thin and feeds them to tux the penguin. |
| 13:35.57 | jordanm | lite1: yes |
| 13:35.57 | thm | is there some document describing best practice maintaining a local. modified version of a package, preferrably using some VCS like git? |
| 13:36.07 | lite1 | i do want quite a few of the packages installed but not 30gb worth |
| 13:36.20 | lite1 | heh |
| 13:36.31 | jordanm | lite1: you can install them using the DVDs after installation |
| 13:36.43 | lite1 | ty for help, an individual pkg selection would be nice |
| 13:36.49 | lite1 | but i didnt see |
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| 13:37.04 | jordanm | yeah, its "tasks" only from the installer |
| 13:37.10 | lite1 | oh ok jordanm |
| 13:37.16 | lite1 | tyvm for the help |
| 13:37.20 | lite1 | :) |
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| 13:40.16 | jordanm | lite1: anytime |
| 13:40.32 | lite1 | right now it says pkg 857/857 complete |
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| 13:40.42 | lite1 | the old deb wasnt like this hehe |
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| 13:40.48 | lite1 | neither is slackware |
| 13:40.58 | lite1 | but im using debian again |
| 13:41.14 | lite1 | i may idle a min if thats cool until i get it all setup |
| 13:41.19 | jmd | Where are the configuration files that udev uses? |
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| 13:41.59 | jordanm | jmd: oddly enough its /etc/udev.... |
| 13:42.29 | jmd | So what is in /sys ? |
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| 13:42.43 | mientefuego | hi |
| 13:42.58 | mientefuego | does anyone use xfonts-terminus on terminal? |
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| 13:43.16 | mientefuego | it seems there's a problem with encoding using this font |
| 13:43.20 | jordanm | jmd: kernel options |
| 13:44.09 | lite1 | jordanm: can i just use the pkg mgr after install to install what woulleb on the dvds? |
| 13:44.22 | lite1 | *would be |
| 13:44.37 | jordanm | lite1: yes, you just have to add the DVDs to sources.list, which may be done for you |
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| 13:44.48 | jmd | Hmm. Something, which udev is doing at boot time, is messing with my video driver. How can I debug / single step the udev boot sequence? |
| 13:45.00 | lite1 | if its not, how do i add them |
| 13:45.08 | mrfoobar | jelly: it seems the bug i found has been fixed in the newer version of cryptsetup, but why wasn't it fixed in lenny? |
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| 13:45.19 | lite1 | ive been using bsd lately and wiped my brain out |
| 13:45.25 | lite1 | from linux |
| 13:45.31 | mrfoobar | does this mean that lenny is purposely left broken? |
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| 13:46.16 | jordanm | jmd: sorry, that was somewhat misleading. /proc/sys is the kernel options handled by sysctl. /sys is used for plug-n-play |
| 13:46.35 | jordanm | jmd: what version of debian? which card? |
| 13:47.10 | jmd | lenny, I've no idea which cardd. |
| 13:47.39 | Vroomfondle | jmd: do an "lspci | grep -i vga" |
| 13:47.49 | jordanm | mrfoobar: if it is considered servere enough (release critical for lenny), then it would go into the next point-release e.g. - 5.0.6 |
| 13:47.58 | abrotman | you really want lspci -nn |
| 13:48.11 | jordanm | mrfoobar: minor bugs are left unfixed |
| 13:48.21 | jmd | nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce Go 660] |
| 13:48.26 | mrfoobar | it makes a documented feature unusable |
| 13:48.34 | jordanm | jmd: what version of debian? |
| 13:48.39 | jmd | lenny |
| 13:49.13 | jordanm | jmd: what does uname -r say? |
| 13:49.29 | jmd | 2.6.26-2-686 |
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| 13:49.50 | jordanm | what seems to be the problem? why do you think udev? |
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| 13:50.25 | jmd | The screen switches mode on boot when it gets to udev. |
| 13:50.57 | jordanm | jmd: you mean like it starts a framebuffer? what issues does that cause? |
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| 13:51.27 | jmd | Yes. I think it's starting a framebuffer. |
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| 13:51.46 | jmd | It causes the X server to become very unstable |
| 13:53.11 | mick_laptop | anyone ever see rsync just hang? it starts and it says it has a few minutes left and then it just stops: rsync -e 'ssh -ax -c blowfish' -avz --progress live.tar.bz2 me@myserver:live.tar.bz2 |
| 13:53.41 | mick_laptop | it had this much time left: 0:00:16 |
| 13:53.46 | jordanm | jmd: try adding "vga=nofb" to "# defoptions" (don't uncomment) in menu.lst, run update-grub and reboot |
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| 13:54.27 | mick_laptop | i killed it and then i restarted and it seems to be going along again just fine: 285654400 7% 17.08MB/s 0:03:17 |
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| 13:54.46 | jordanm | mick_laptop: it usually gives an error message |
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| 13:55.01 | jordanm | although, I have never used --progress so that may supress the error |
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| 13:55.08 | tarik | Hi |
| 13:55.39 | tarik | What is the command line to know the name of my Hard drive ? |
| 13:55.43 | mick_laptop | if it hangs again then I'll take that out |
| 13:55.44 | tarik | in linux debian |
| 13:55.46 | jmd | jordanm, OK. I'll try it. Thanks. |
| 13:55.55 | mick_laptop | "name"? |
| 13:55.59 | mick_laptop | mount |
| 13:56.10 | jmd | reboots |
| 13:56.12 | mick_laptop | that will tell you what is mounted and where |
| 13:56.14 | jordanm | tarik: blkid will display UUIDs and partition labels |
| 13:56.44 | tarik | I want to know the model and name of my harddrive not partition name |
| 13:56.52 | mick_laptop | and dmesg might have the manuafacturer etc info (i forget) |
| 13:57.05 | jordanm | tarik: possibly lshw or dmidecode |
| 13:57.21 | lindi- | tarik: hdparm can display it. |
| 13:57.23 | jordanm | yes, and also dmesg |
| 13:57.24 | \amethyst | it's likely to be in /dev/disk/by-id as well |
| 13:58.17 | mick_laptop | tarik: next time try and be a bit more descriptive than "name" :D |
| 13:58.58 | mick_laptop | damned this. 2229935968 59% 90.17MB/s 0:00:16 |
| 13:59.05 | mick_laptop | it just died again |
| 13:59.41 | mick_laptop | jordanm: what parameters do you normally use? |
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| 14:00.09 | mick_laptop | i might just add -vvv to ssh to see if it is an ssh related issue |
| 14:01.24 | jordanm | mick_laptop: just -av |
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| 14:01.50 | jordanm | well... and --exclude |
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| 14:03.25 | mick_laptop | well since all i want is one file - i don't need --exclude ;) |
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| 14:04.03 | mick_laptop | the file is 4 gigs and one transfer died |
| 14:04.16 | mick_laptop | maybe I need to start again (I hope not) |
| 14:04.20 | mick_laptop | *sigh* |
| 14:04.22 | jmd | jordanm, with vga=nofb the system refuses to boot. |
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| 14:05.07 | mick_laptop | ah shit i see what it is |
| 14:05.12 | mick_laptop | my VM keeps dying |
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| 14:05.28 | leodantos | Hello, I used the root terminal to setup a pppoe connection. I type my password, but when trying to set pppoe with sudo pppoeconf it says" command not found". |
| 14:05.31 | leodantos | Why is that? |
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| 14:06.35 | mick_laptop | someone here did some "low level tweaking" in the OS to optimize for performance and I'm sure that it is screwing w/ virtualbox |
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| 14:07.35 | nkuttler | leodantos: /usr/sbin/ not in $PATH ? |
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| 14:08.28 | leodantos | nkuttler, Well I'm a beginner user. When I installed debian I told him to put everything on the same partition if that helps you/ |
| 14:08.42 | leodantos | nkuttler, This is the only error I get, command not found. |
| 14:09.16 | leodantos | nkuttler, If I run in on a normal terminal I get "leodantos not on the sudoers file"...something like this. |
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| 14:14.24 | leodantos | Does someone have any ideas about my problem? |
| 14:14.33 | nkuttler | leodantos: um, as root, you don't need sudo at all. see man sudo, man sudoers. |
| 14:14.54 | leodantos | nkuttler, I tried without sudo and the same... |
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| 14:15.01 | nkuttler | leodantos: and to run stuff in /sbin /usr/sbin/ etc you need to add those paths to your $PATH, which is probably documented in the default ~/.bashrc |
| 14:15.18 | jpinx-eeepc | leodantos: are you root? if not su |
| 14:15.21 | leodantos | nkuttler, How can I see if pppoeconf is installed? |
| 14:15.38 | leodantos | jpinx-eeepc, Yes I am root when I try to run that command |
| 14:15.41 | nkuttler | yeah, use su, much easier |
| 14:15.52 | leodantos | sudo su? |
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| 14:15.57 | nkuttler | leodantos: are you copy and pasting ubuntu instructions or what? |
| 14:16.01 | jordanm | alright... so I just typed out a rather long bug report and then found out I had misconfigured passwd.client for my MTA... does anyone know if that bug report is still stored in a temp file (using reportbug)? |
| 14:16.02 | jpinx-eeepc | leodantos: if you are root do not use sudo |
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| 14:16.14 | nkuttler | leodantos: do not use sudo at all unless you configured it |
| 14:16.23 | nkuttler | or does debian enable sudo nowadays? |
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| 14:16.35 | benutzer | hi I am running kde on sid and want to change my login screen, but all buttons within systemsettings->login manager are grayed out, what can I do? |
| 14:16.37 | jpinx-eeepc | nkuttler: sudo is not installed by default |
| 14:16.41 | nkuttler | thought so |
| 14:16.54 | jpinx-eeepc | nkuttler: he's on 00b00nt00 ;) |
| 14:16.58 | leodantos | nkuttler, I think I have to format myself. I moved from Ubuntu...and things are really hard for me. |
| 14:17.17 | nkuttler | leodantos: just don't use sudo. or configure it. man sudoers |
| 14:17.18 | leodantos | I use a live cd now because I don't have internet runing on my other machine |
| 14:17.38 | jpinx-eeepc | leodantos: if you are root do not use sudo at all |
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| 14:18.17 | leodantos | I don't think you got me, as I am not explaining my issue right. |
| 14:18.43 | leodantos | I want to connect to the internet and my only way of doing it is with PPPOE, this is my only type of connection I have. |
| 14:18.54 | nkuttler | leodantos: use su to become root. then run pppoeconf. without sudo. |
| 14:19.09 | leodantos | Back on Ubuntu I used to do sudo pppoeconf, type my root password and voila |
| 14:19.22 | leodantos | If I do sudo pppoeconf, I get the fact that I am not in the sudoers file |
| 14:19.37 | jordanm | leodantos: sudo doesn't ask you for the root password, it asks you for your user's password |
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| 14:19.43 | leodantos | So I must do EDITOR="nano" sudo visudo yes? |
| 14:19.53 | leodantos | Ohhh user password, excuse me. |
| 14:20.13 | jordanm | leodantos: that is the default... or you can make a system wide editor change with update-alternatives --config editor |
| 14:20.15 | leodantos | I do not know were to add myself on that config file. |
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| 14:20.29 | jordanm | recommends something better than nano |
| 14:20.42 | leodantos | Ok so it is better to use that command? |
| 14:20.47 | leodantos | update-alternatives --config editor? |
| 14:20.50 | nkuttler | is surprised he has no pppoeconfig installed |
| 14:21.01 | jordanm | leodantos: if you want to change the default editor for all users, yes |
| 14:21.11 | leodantos | Ok |
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| 14:21.34 | jpinx-eeepc | leodantos: if you are root do not use sudo at all |
| 14:21.58 | leodantos | jpinx-eeepc, I got it, but if I type pppoeconf It says command not found. |
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| 14:22.05 | jpinx-eeepc | leodantos: you are making this incredibly difficult for yyourself |
| 14:22.21 | jordanm | leodantos: you likely need to be root first |
| 14:22.24 | nkuttler | leodantos: type whoami. what's the output? |
| 14:22.28 | jpinx-eeepc | install ppoeconf or whatever package it comes in |
| 14:22.30 | leodantos | asmosis |
| 14:22.43 | jpinx-eeepc | jordanm: he *is* root- |
| 14:22.47 | leodantos | jpinx-eeepc, How can I install a package since I have no internet connection? |
| 14:22.58 | jordanm | jpinx-eeepc: not if whoami said "asmosis" he is *not* |
| 14:23.08 | jpinx-eeepc | leodantos: you are online here....... |
| 14:23.23 | leodantos | jpinx-eeepc, this is a live cd |
| 14:23.24 | jpinx-eeepc | sheesh - he specifically said he is root earlier |
| 14:23.53 | abrotman | leodantos: i thgouht you were going to fix pppoeconf ? |
| 14:23.53 | leodantos | Now I am root |
| 14:24.04 | leodantos | if I type whoami i get root |
| 14:24.17 | jpinx-eeepc | leodantos: if you are root do not use sudo at all |
| 14:24.25 | leodantos | Ok I didn't use |
| 14:24.27 | nkuttler | leodantos: now, type "which pppoeconf" |
| 14:24.30 | leodantos | I type pppoeconf |
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| 14:24.37 | leodantos | command not found |
| 14:24.44 | jordanm | yay! my email server sent the bounce to me |
| 14:25.12 | jordanm | ,depends ppoeconf |
| 14:25.14 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'ppoeconf' was found in lenny/i386. |
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| 14:25.21 | jordanm | ,depends pppoeconf |
| 14:25.22 | judd | pppoeconf -- depends: whiptail-provider | whiptail, ppp (>= 2.4.2+20040428-2) | pppoe (>= 3.0), ppp (>= 2.4.1.uus2-4), gettext-base (>= 0.13), sed (>= 3.95), modconf. |
| 14:25.32 | Macor | what was that for? |
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| 14:25.53 | jpinx-eeepc | leodantos: donwload it and install it with dpkg |
| 14:25.53 | abrotman | leodantos: did you install with the netinst? |
| 14:26.21 | jordanm | leodantos: you can buy networking equipment that will handle this pppoe crap so that you do not have to configure it on all your client.. |
| 14:26.31 | leodantos | abrotman, I got a cd, i386 which I think it had...like 650 MB |
| 14:26.45 | abrotman | leodantos: so stick that in the drive, use `apt-cdom` .. then install pppoeconf |
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| 14:26.54 | guzu | hello all |
| 14:27.07 | leodantos | abrotman, Ohh so I get it from the cd ? :) |
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| 14:27.42 | jpinx-eeepc | leodantos: what's the output of cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 14:28.08 | leodantos | It's lenny 5.0 :)\ |
| 14:28.17 | Macer | anybod#yhere use refit on a macbook? |
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| 14:28.55 | leodantos | Well I will go try with apt-cdrom |
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| 14:29.34 | Macer | dont know what happened but now my disk seems stuck |
| 14:29.39 | xro | hi, i get an error with openvpn and openvpn-auth-ldap.so... --> http://dpaste.com/205171/ can you help me? |
| 14:29.43 | Macer | even dd didnt seem to work for it |
| 14:29.49 | leodantos | Thank you for helping me. |
| 14:29.55 | leodantos | So far..I hope I make it. |
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| 14:30.48 | Macer | eek! |
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| 14:31.13 | lmaowaffle | hello. I keep getting: dpkg: warning: obsolete option '--print-installation-architecture', please use '--print-architecture' instead. message with aptitude actions (i don't use apt-get so I don't know if it comes up there too, but i'm assuming it will as it looks more like a dpkg prompt) |
| 14:31.25 | Macer | i guess the drive must be broken because it is making the worst noises ever haha |
| 14:31.27 | lmaowaffle | is this safe to ignore? is there a bug report on this? |
| 14:31.36 | lmaowaffle | i've had this issue on Squeeze for the longest time now |
| 14:31.38 | _panda | what package include libiptc? seems like its removed from iptables-dev |
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| 14:33.22 | jelly | lmaowaffle: that's what you get for running testing |
| 14:33.39 | lmaowaffle | jelly: ah, just a minor setback, then |
| 14:33.56 | jelly | lmaowaffle: it's not a setback, rather a cosmetic issue |
| 14:34.04 | bolt-work | When using ext3, is there a point in dividing large (3TB) disks into smaller partitions? Like, other than to separate disk space for different purposes? Will a 3TB partition end up with a huge block size or something like that? |
| 14:34.52 | lmaowaffle | jelly: was it originally an issue in sid, and has since been addressed - only, the changes haven't propagated to testing? |
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| 14:35.22 | jelly | bolt-work: for ext3, fsck time and memory usage roughly linearly with inode number (which is block size/some constant) |
| 14:35.29 | lmaowaffle | jelly: aren't cosmetic issues generally easier to quash. I would really like to read any bug report |
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| 14:35.51 | jelly | lmaowaffle: feel free to go and read bug reports for aptitude and dpkg ;-) |
| 14:36.05 | lmaowaffle | oh dear, hope there's not too many to sift through |
| 14:36.14 | jelly | heh heh heh |
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| 14:36.56 | xro | hi, i get an error with openvpn and openvpn-auth-ldap.so... --> http://dpaste.com/205171/ can you help me, i have to fix it today.... |
| 14:37.19 | jordanm | bolt-work: well, it would take a very long time to fsck |
| 14:37.21 | jelly | bolt-work: this means ~1GB RAM needed for 1TB fs to fsck |
| 14:37.45 | jordanm | jelly: interesting. can it swap? |
| 14:38.17 | jelly | jordanm: do you want it to? |
| 14:38.28 | jordanm | jelly: if I don't have the needed ram, yes |
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| 14:39.02 | jordanm | I will take painfully slow + functional over non-functional |
| 14:39.03 | jelly | I cut filesystems to 200-250GB max where there's user data |
| 14:39.12 | bolt-work | jelly: the machine has 8 gigs. fsck shouldn't be a problem, really. |
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| 14:39.56 | jelly | bolt-work: I'm considering adding that line to Famous Last Words quote databased |
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| 14:41.00 | bolt-work | jelly: so i really should figure out some partition sizes and divide it, then |
| 14:41.20 | jelly | bolt-work: if you know in advance the average size and number of files present, you can use mkfs options to tune |
| 14:41.39 | bolt-work | hm.. |
| 14:41.46 | bolt-work | reads mkfs manual |
| 14:41.46 | jelly | bolt-work: partitions, lvm, whatever's your fancy |
| 14:42.00 | jelly | mke2fs (again, I'm assuming ext3) |
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| 14:42.33 | xro | hi, i found a patch to solve my issue but is it possible to apply it without reinstall my soft? the patch need to be applied on the source code but i could edit the soft, no? |
| 14:42.57 | jelly | bolt-work: with lvm, you can do regular snapshots, fsck them, and reset fsck timestamps if they fsck correctly |
| 14:43.06 | bolt-work | xro: you'd need to recompile and reinstall it |
| 14:43.12 | jordanm | xro: depends, is your software in binary or script form? |
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| 14:43.53 | bolt-work | jelly: ah. sounds like something i should try :D |
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| 14:44.50 | xro | jordanm, it is the openvpn-auth-ldap module |
| 14:45.05 | jelly | and if they don't, at least you get to schedule downtime instead of fscking after a reboot |
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| 14:45.20 | xro | bolt-work, recompile it will erase all my config files? |
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| 14:45.34 | bolt-work | xro: shouldn't, no |
| 14:46.01 | BLZbubba | if i have a file that lists one number per line, is there an easy way to add them all up? e.g. cat /tmp/numbers.txt | xargs add |
| 14:46.03 | jordanm | !tell xro about package recompile |
| 14:46.07 | bolt-work | xro: you should always keep a backup of them anyway if you're afraid of losing them |
| 14:46.12 | BLZbubba | ? |
| 14:47.13 | jelly | BLZbubba: awk is your friend! cat numbers.txt | awk '{t=t+$1} END {print "Total: " t }' |
| 14:47.53 | jordanm | jelly: thats much better than what I going to suggest |
| 14:48.19 | jordanm | was going to recommend using "read" to add all the numbers to an array and then iterate over them |
| 14:48.42 | abrotman | Hydroxide: around? |
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| 14:50.31 | bolt-work | BLZbubba: or just bash... SUM=0; while read number; do let "SUM += number"; done < <(cat numbers.txt); echo $SUM |
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| 14:55.34 | jelly | jordanm: it's the same thing except sh is slow as hell |
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| 14:55.52 | bolt-work | :D |
| 14:55.56 | _panda | sorry for asking again but what package include libiptc? seems like its removed from iptables-dev |
| 14:56.05 | bolt-work | works fast on my 3 line test :P |
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| 14:56.58 | jelly | and literally a minute later a cow orker asks how to do the same thing except it wasn't $1 but $(NF-4) |
| 14:57.32 | xro | bolt-work, bolt-work... i installed openvpn-auth-ldap_2.0.3-1_i386.deb and i find a patch for auth-ldap-2.0.3.tar.gz |
| 14:58.08 | jelly | !tell _panda about apt-file |
| 14:58.12 | jelly | !tell _panda about search |
| 14:59.15 | jelly | _panda: which debian release are you using? |
| 14:59.18 | _panda | jelly and i have done that |
| 15:00.25 | xro | bolt-work, i'm sure they are nearly the same... how can i decompile the.deb the recompile it install it? |
| 15:00.38 | _panda | 5.0 |
| 15:01.17 | jelly | _panda: dpkg -l libc6 iptables | tail -2 |
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| 15:01.29 | jordanm | xro: see the PM you got from dpkg about 10min ago |
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| 15:02.00 | BLZbubba | jelly: cool, i have been meaning to master awk for like 20 years; looks like it's time to do it now :) |
| 15:02.14 | BLZbubba | also, is there a floating-point version of bc? |
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| 15:02.29 | jelly | BLZbubba: scale=6 |
| 15:02.31 | _panda | jelly: hmm what does that have todo with libiptc? |
| 15:02.32 | BLZbubba | e.g. if i do 10/3 i don't want to get 3 |
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| 15:03.23 | jelly | _panda: it has lots to do with verifying version of iptables package |
| 15:03.31 | benutzer | I am running debian sid with plymouth installed, this setup works but the bootsplash doesnt show up until kde is up, so I see mixed up bootmessages. I am not using upstart but init, the init info of /etc/init.d/plymouth says: X-Stop-After: gdm kdm xdm what can I do? |
| 15:04.10 | _panda | 1.4.2-6 |
| 15:04.11 | BLZbubba | jelly: what does "scale=6" mean? |
| 15:04.36 | jelly | BLZbubba: do it in bc. see what happens with output of eg. 1/3 |
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| 15:05.09 | BLZbubba | jelly: sweet, ty |
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| 15:05.51 | jordanm | benutzer: adding quite to your boot arguements should atleast supresses messages until the splash appears |
| 15:05.56 | jordanm | quiet |
| 15:06.10 | xro | jordanm, with dpkg- x i only got a .so file... |
| 15:06.48 | jordanm | benutzer: also, are you sure your sure your using sysvinit? squeeze/sid should have had a change to insserv (although not mandatory) |
| 15:07.04 | jordanm | xro: where in that factoid does it tell you to do that? |
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| 15:08.00 | tau | hey, i am wanting to download the netbeans, i looked for its package by using the synaptic i found 'netbeans ide and netbeans platform' i am not sure on what they are meaning. so what is the difference between the two ? |
| 15:08.24 | xro | jordanm, factoid explain how to install a package not how to modify it... so i red man dpkg and saw an extract and tried it... |
| 15:08.25 | jelly | _panda: the library is back in squeeze fwiw |
| 15:08.47 | jelly | _panda: I guess you'll want to backport iptables userspace packages |
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| 15:08.54 | jordanm | tau: look at the descriptions of the packages. e.g. for netbeans-ide "This package contains the IDE." |
| 15:09.12 | benutzer | jordanm I am not into that very much, I thought if it isnt upstart then there is only one other alternative, quiet is already in grub |
| 15:09.30 | jordanm | xro: you want the source package, not the binary... |
| 15:09.45 | jordanm | xro: as it said in the factoid you descided to ignore |
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| 15:10.11 | jordanm | benutzer: apt-cache policy insserv |
| 15:10.56 | _panda | jelly alright |
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| 15:11.03 | _panda | thank you |
| 15:12.19 | jelly | _panda: what are you really trying to do, though? libiptc didn't exist in 5.0 and suddenly got removed |
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| 15:12.43 | _panda | well its an old c++ code im trying to re-use |
| 15:12.44 | jelly | it wasn't there at all afaict |
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| 15:13.06 | _panda | and it calls for iptc_next_rule() and iptc_init() |
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| 15:15.43 | xro | jordanm, ohh i missunderstood it... so i found the package... but there is a diff file. 1) get the package 2) apply the diff file 3) correct the bug 4) compile it with dpkg 5) install it right ??? http://ftp.debian.org/pool/main/o/openvpn-auth-ldap/ |
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| 15:16.44 | benutzer | jordanm Installiert: 1.14.0-2 |
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| 15:17.52 | jordanm | xro: 2) apt-get source does this for you 4) dpkg doesn't compile, you want dpkg-buildpackage, yes to the rest |
| 15:18.08 | jordanm | xro: also make sure you read the debian/rules factoid |
| 15:18.43 | jordanm | benutzer: then you likely are not using sysvinit |
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| 15:19.09 | jordanm | benutzer: at some point there should have been a ncurses menu asking you about the migration to dependency based booting |
| 15:19.55 | benutzer | jordanm I didnt see one, but I am fine with what I have right now, as long as plymouth stays up until kde is started |
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| 15:20.28 | xro | !tell xro about debian/rules |
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| 15:22.38 | benutzer | jordanm the problem is: plymouth shuts down before kde starts |
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| 15:31.39 | jordanm | benutzer: have you checked the BTS? |
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| 15:36.37 | benutzer | jordanm bts? |
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| 15:41.38 | xro | jordanm, i try to do it but i need some help... that is what i did --> http://dpaste.com/205220/ i have a problem with build-dep |
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| 15:45.45 | jordanm | xro: do you have the appropriate source entry in your menu.lst? also very possible that it is a different source package that generates multiple sub-packages, such as just "openvpn". you can check this on packages.debian.org |
| 15:46.55 | jordanm | does anyone know if there is an application for debian that will convert CAD drawings to numerical control (CNC) files? |
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| 15:47.18 | xro | jordanm, http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=openvpn-auth-ldap&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
| 15:48.04 | WormFood | http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Secured-Typing.aspx hahaha (a little off topic, but I know you guys will appreciate this one) |
| 15:48.04 | jordanm | xro: looks like you are missing deb-src |
| 15:48.23 | jordanm | xro: you can manually fetch from the website if you prefer using dget |
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| 15:50.26 | xro | jordanm, i wrote lenny/volatile main in the source.list is it rigth? or should i use sid or squeeze |
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| 15:52.11 | jordanm | xro: I have no idea what release you are running or how you got that package. don't ask me |
| 15:52.24 | jordanm | ,versions openvpn-auth-ldap |
| 15:52.25 | judd | openvpn-auth-ldap -- sid: 2.0.3-1; squeeze: 2.0.3-1 |
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| 15:52.47 | jordanm | xro: you didn't get it from lenny, and if you didn't know this, I would bet you are running testing right now |
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| 15:54.09 | thieummm | hi, I'm struggling to use make-kpkg to build a deb package of a 32 bit linux kernel image on my amd64 machine ... anybody has a clue how to do it right (without chroot if possible) ? |
| 15:54.49 | jordanm | thieummm: you should explain the problems you are having, otherwise the answer is read /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/* |
| 15:54.54 | xro | jordanm, yes but i just downloaded the .deb and installed it... it's the fiorst time a get a package like you said me... so i need some help.... |
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| 15:55.43 | jordanm | xro: are we talking about production machines? |
| 15:55.44 | thieummm | ok: i used: setarch i386 sudo make-kpkg --append-to-version netns --cross-compile - --initrd --arch i386 kernel_image |
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| 15:56.08 | xro | jordanm, yes... :) |
| 15:57.26 | thieummm | the kernel is an x86 executable, but the deb package name is postfixed with "amd64" and dpkg -i and the package on the 32 bit ma package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386)" |
| 15:58.12 | thieummm | the kernel is an x86 executable, but the deb package name is postfixed with "amd64" and dpkg -i on the package on the 32 bit machines says: package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386)" |
| 15:58.14 | thieummm | sorry |
| 15:58.23 | tharkun | What is more reliable, Hardware Raid or Software Raid? |
| 15:58.25 | jordanm | thieummm: have you looked at /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/Multi-Arch.gz? |
| 15:59.35 | jelly | tharkun: hardware raid is nice with a proper controller |
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| 16:00.00 | jelly | battery backed cache wins over any software solution |
| 16:00.01 | thieummm | jordanm: mmm, it's not in there on Ubuntu |
| 16:00.09 | thieummm | ;) |
| 16:00.33 | tharkun | jelly: any suggestions? |
| 16:00.52 | xro | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:01.03 | jelly | tharkun: for standalone controllers, not really |
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| 16:01.26 | tharkun | jelly: Thx I'll keep on googling |
| 16:01.56 | jelly | typically when it's needed we buy a 3ware, but personally I have no experience with them |
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| 16:02.24 | jordanm | !ubuntu |
| 16:02.24 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 16:02.31 | jordanm | thieummm: then ask #ubuntu |
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| 16:03.14 | thieummm | jordanm: right i will |
| 16:03.17 | thieummm | thx |
| 16:03.20 | tharkun | jelly: once again thx i'll start with those |
| 16:04.03 | jordanm | xro: were you actually hired as a linux admin? you really can not figure this out? |
| 16:05.35 | jpinx-eeepc | xro: pastebin your sources list |
| 16:05.44 | xro | jordanm, i'm not a linux admin... but i only have a openvpn server |
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| 16:06.39 | xro | jpinx-eeepc , http://dpaste.com/205228/ |
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| 16:07.28 | jordanm | xro: what made you think that is correct? |
| 16:08.39 | xro | jordanm, i think it's not... |
| 16:08.53 | jpinx-eeepc | xro: you seem to have mixed squeeze and lenny.... |
| 16:09.26 | xro | jpinx-eeepc, yes... i have to get the squeeze package and put it in lenny... |
| 16:09.51 | xro | jpinx-eeepc, this package doesn't exist for lenny |
| 16:09.55 | jpinx-eeepc | xro: is it not in backports? |
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| 16:10.05 | jelly | xro: don't do that, it will break your system. Make a backport instead. |
| 16:10.13 | jordanm | ,depends openvpn-auth-ldap |
| 16:10.16 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'openvpn-auth-ldap' was found in lenny/i386. |
| 16:10.18 | jelly | xro: /msg dpkg ssb |
| 16:10.22 | jordanm | ,depends openvpn-auth-ldap --release squeeze |
| 16:10.24 | judd | openvpn-auth-ldap -- depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.3), libldap-2.4-2 (>= 2.4.7), libobjc2 (>= 4.2.1), openvpn (>= 2). |
| 16:11.10 | jpinx-eeepc | ,versions openvpn-auth-ldap |
| 16:11.12 | judd | openvpn-auth-ldap -- sid: 2.0.3-1; squeeze: 2.0.3-1 |
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| 16:12.33 | xro | ok, someone could explain me what i should do step by step.... I never do it but i would like learn... (get the package, modify it and install it) |
| 16:12.35 | jpinx-eeepc | xro: there you ahve all the info - check if your versions of the depends are good enough, download the pkg required from packages.debian.org and install it with dpkg |
| 16:13.05 | jpinx-eeepc | xro: or /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 16:14.05 | os_admin | hello; i'd like to buy a server with these characteristics Os : Debian Lenny,CPU : 2 *intel xeon @ 2.13GHz,Ram :4go,Disk size:160 GO have you any idea about provider |
| 16:14.15 | jpinx-eeepc | !tell xro about ssb |
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| 16:15.03 | jpinx-eeepc | xro: and remove the squeeze references in your sources.list |
| 16:15.19 | tharkun | os_admin: I really don't know of any major provider that will supply any server with Debian as an OS |
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| 16:15.52 | tharkun | os_admin: But the specs are easily met with entry level servers |
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| 16:15.59 | jelly | os_admin: dedicated w/ hosting? |
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| 16:16.23 | xro | jpinx-eeepc, i try it |
| 16:16.26 | jpinx-eeepc | os_admin: buy the hardware and install what you want |
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| 16:18.37 | jelly | I find Debian working rather well on hp proliants |
| 16:19.16 | gravity | HP provides a server with install, iirc |
| 16:19.54 | bolt-work | some of the providers on lowendbox give you debian |
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| 16:20.05 | jordanm | well, yes, but some people like me don't have an available (or affordable) ISP to host services. this makes off-site hosting ideal, although there are places that sell rackspace |
| 16:20.06 | bolt-work | there used to be one on the top there, but they've changed it :( |
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| 16:20.20 | os_admin | @jelly: yes dedicated host |
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| 16:20.59 | jordanm | os_admin: I use grokthis.net for my debian hosting, they also do dedicated servers if I am not mistaken |
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| 16:21.38 | dboehmer | hello everyone |
| 16:21.46 | dboehmer | i could need some hint for aptitude |
| 16:22.02 | os_admin | have you any idea about HP, Dell, IBM |
| 16:22.10 | dboehmer | my vServer hoster set up a debian box for me with many unneeded packages installed |
| 16:22.20 | dboehmer | i have already uninstalled many of them |
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| 16:22.36 | dboehmer | unfortunately they set many packages as manually installed |
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| 16:23.02 | dboehmer | how can i get a list of all manually installed pkgs *which are manually installed*? |
| 16:23.10 | dboehmer | argh |
| 16:23.16 | dboehmer | silly sentence |
| 16:23.22 | jpinx-eeepc | dboehmer: do dpkg -l and see what you don't need - then uninstall as needed, followed by aptitude update and upgrade to resolve depends |
| 16:23.42 | dboehmer | i correct: how to get a list of the manually installed packages that are [not] depended by any other pkg? |
| 16:24.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually I wonder why you care... is space so tight? |
| 16:24.48 | jelly | !aptitude clone |
| 16:24.48 | dpkg | To clone a Debian machine using aptitude (or install your favourite packages) use aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M' > package_list; on the reference machine; xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < package_list; aptitude install; on the other machine. This preserves information about "automatically installed" packages that other methods do not. See also <reinstall>, <things to backup>. <debian clone> |
| 16:24.48 | tharkun | os_admin: As i stated before neither Dell nor Hp offer any servers running Debian. They do offer Red Hat linux tho. |
| 16:24.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's ... wossname |
| 16:25.28 | jordanm | doleyb: try: aptitude search '~i!~M' |
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| 16:25.42 | dboehmer | CutMeOwnThroat, i had been using gentoo for some time and got used to the idea of a "word file" which is nearly the list of manually installed pkgs |
| 16:25.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | dboehmer, "cruft" |
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| 16:25.59 | os_admin | have you an url for server with these characteristics |
| 16:26.24 | jordanm | dboehmer: /var/lib/dpkg/status |
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| 16:26.37 | jordanm | dboehmer: no since at all in manually parsing it though |
| 16:26.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | but overall, I wouldn't care - space is cheap and time is precious (and there's no way to do this rigorously without investing time) |
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| 16:26.53 | LemensTS | anyway to do 'ls' to view just directories in a directory, and not files |
| 16:27.14 | dboehmer | i am quite confused by many keywords or filenames posted by you |
| 16:27.15 | jordanm | LemensTS: find . -type d -maxdepth 1 |
| 16:27.37 | themill | dboehmer: "aptitude search '~i!~M'" is all you need to get a list of manually installed packages. |
| 16:28.01 | dboehmer | can you point me to a way to list manually installed pkg that are depended by others anyway? |
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| 16:28.46 | dboehmer | themill, i have the list of installed pkgs. i just want to crop the list to pkg's i do really want myself. deps should not be in that list OMO |
| 16:28.49 | dboehmer | IMO |
| 16:28.52 | LemensTS | jordan: thanks! |
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| 16:29.22 | themill | dboehmer: deps should not be on that list already. Precisely what do you mean by "manually installed"? |
| 16:29.33 | jpinx-eeepc | themill: I just ran that command here and it lists everything - not only manually installed pkgs. ? |
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| 16:29.54 | dboehmer | apt can mark pkgs as manually installed when requesting their install on the cmd line |
| 16:30.06 | dboehmer | their deps are marked as automatically installed |
| 16:30.07 | themill | jpinx-eeepc: wfm. |
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| 16:30.21 | dboehmer | my hoster set many deps are manually installed and i want to reverse that |
| 16:30.37 | jordanm | doleyb: try: aptitude search '~i!~M~Rdepends:.*' |
| 16:31.38 | themill | dboehmer: there's no easy way of second guessing things like that. |
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| 16:31.59 | jordanm | dboehmer: easy solution: a) don't buy a linux-vserver or openvz VM b) don't use hosting providers that are crap |
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| 16:32.56 | dboehmer | jordanm, too late;-) seriously i think that hoster is quite good. the technicians just messed up the image in order to make it newbie-compatible |
| 16:33.20 | jpinx-eeepc | dboehmer: you must have a good reason for wanting to clear stuff out, and what you want rid of, so aptitude purge will take care of depends |
| 16:33.20 | dboehmer | as the logic is basically quite easy i am going to write a short script for that |
| 16:33.25 | jordanm | dboehmer: most of the time the hosting provider does not make the images themselves (sometimes called templates) |
| 16:33.36 | dboehmer | just give me a hint how to list the pkg depending package X, please |
| 16:33.54 | jordanm | dboehmer: aptitude why <package> |
| 16:34.11 | dboehmer | jordanm, sound reasonable. in that case virtuozzo is to be blamed |
| 16:34.12 | jpinx-eeepc | dboehmer: what hosting provider? |
| 16:34.21 | dboehmer | jpinx-eeepc, keyweb from germany |
| 16:34.33 | themill | dboehmer: there is no way that the logic is quite easy as it somehow depend on your script being able to mind-read what you really want installed as opposed to what is claimed in the aptitude status file as being what you wanted installed. |
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| 16:35.12 | dboehmer | themill, i am going to decide which program to delete. i just want to view a list of candidates |
| 16:35.22 | dboehmer | do i need to point that out with an example? |
| 16:35.48 | themill | yes... because I can't see how this differs from mind-reading |
| 16:35.53 | xro | jordanm, ok now i have my package and i modify it... to build it, i only need to do dpkg -b mypackage? |
| 16:36.00 | jordanm | dboehmer: *untested*: aptitude remove '!~pImportant!~E' |
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| 16:36.19 | jordanm | that _might_ get you a standard base system |
| 16:37.19 | jpinx-eeepc | dboehmer: you can use aptitude with -s to simulate and see what it is going to do |
| 16:37.28 | dboehmer | jordanm, it just displays loads of missing deps |
| 16:37.35 | jordanm | xro: dpkg-buildpackage, as I told you an hour ago and two factoids you were sent told you |
| 16:38.02 | themill | dpkg: tell dboehmer about uninstall everything |
| 16:38.25 | jelly | dboehmer: whem I'm in an deletionist mood, I use debfoster! Debfoster -- all the real admins love it. |
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| 16:39.23 | jordanm | themill: would my line have not done similar? |
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| 16:40.22 | themill | jordanm: it would remove standard and required priority packages though... and they should be installed. |
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| 16:41.37 | jordanm | themill: required yes, but I am seeing a lot in "standard" you can do without |
| 16:42.01 | themill | !standard task |
| 16:42.01 | dpkg | it has been said that standard task is a "task" that should be installed on all machines during the installer stage. It installs packages that are important, required and standard (i.e. "aptitude install ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant"). For a list of packages see http://wiki.debian.org/tasksel . Also ask me about <tasksel>. |
| 16:42.12 | dboehmer | themill, uninstall everything was a great hint! thanks for that! |
| 16:42.45 | jordanm | yes... because everyone should have mutt :) |
| 16:42.59 | jordanm | but not mailutils! |
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| 16:43.41 | xro | jordanm, i just read the README --> http://dpaste.com/205242/ so i should do --> http://dpaste.com/205244/ |
| 16:43.59 | themill | "aptitude search '?not(?depends(?installed))?installed?not(?automatic)'" will give you a list of packages for which there's no apparent reason for them to be installed... as in if you marked them as auto-installed then they would be removed. |
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| 16:44.31 | themill | suspects that logic can be simplified a little |
| 16:44.48 | jordanm | xro: no, debian packages should not install to /usr/local |
| 16:45.44 | jordanm | xro: don't modify the package any more than applying your patch. what you are showing me there would require you modify the debian/rules file. don't do it |
| 16:46.02 | jordanm | xro: sorry, applying your patch _and_ incrementing the changelog |
| 16:47.31 | jordanm | xro: you seem to insist on making this much harder than it is... |
| 16:47.53 | xro | jordanm, i dont understand anything.... |
| 16:48.21 | jordanm | xro: then maybe your work should hire someone else |
| 16:48.28 | xro | jordanm, i have my package patched and modified... how install it? |
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| 16:48.55 | dboehmer | i have built a line that lists all manually installed packages and the number of their dependencies which are installed |
| 16:49.01 | xro | jordanm, everybody need to learn before to know... |
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| 16:49.33 | jordanm | xro: some catch on much better than others |
| 16:50.08 | jordanm | xro: your answer was in both the ssb and package recompile factoids |
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| 16:50.15 | xro | jordanm, i'm not a system admin.... but if you explain me a bit i will understand it |
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| 16:51.50 | xro | jordanm the makefile that's used when building a .deb from source. Edit debian/rules to change compilation options. Be aware that some packages use sophisticated build systems that should be documented in debian/README.source. Also remember to make a new entry in debian/changelog with "~yourname" (for a backport) or "+yourname" (for a recompile) added to the version number. Also ask me about <hold> <package recompile> <source>. <makef |
| 16:52.38 | jordanm | xro: alright... thats not one of the two factoids I mentioned. thats the one for debian/rules |
| 16:52.55 | jordanm | !package recompile |
| 16:52.55 | dpkg | 1) Add a <deb-src> line for your current release to your sources.list 2) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential devscripts fakeroot; aptitude build-dep packagename 3) as any user, apt-get source packagename 4) cd packagename-version/; ask me about <debian/rules>; 5) dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us 6) as root, dpkg -i ../packagename-version.deb. Ask me about <debian/rules>, <apt-get source>. |
| 16:52.55 | WormFood | is http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ down for everyone else too, or is it just me? |
| 16:53.01 | jordanm | xro: you are on step 5 |
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| 16:53.33 | xro | jordanm, dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us will build my .deb? |
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| 16:54.40 | xro | jordanm, i tried and get /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 164: debian/rules: Permission denied |
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| 16:57.43 | jordanm | xro: again making things *much* more difficult then they have to be. what did you do to make that 87 line file have 164 lines? |
| 16:58.45 | jpinx-eeepc | doubled it? ;) |
| 16:59.03 | jordanm | would seem so... |
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| 17:00.50 | xro | jordanm, can you explain? i didn't do anything... my file is like that |
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| 17:01.24 | jhutchins_lt | WormFood: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ |
| 17:01.27 | jordanm | xro: I downloaded the file and its 87 lines long, you had an error on line 164 which did not exist in the orginal file. I don't know how else to explain it |
| 17:02.15 | WormFood | jhutchins_lt, I beat you to that like 5 minutes ago :P |
| 17:02.54 | WormFood | but thanks anyways (I couldn't remember the name of that site, but google helped me out) |
| 17:03.24 | jpinx-eeepc | jhutchins_lt: heh - good one:) |
| 17:03.40 | xro | jordanm, /usr/bin/fakeroot is a simlink to /etc/alternatives/fakeroot |
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| 17:07.45 | xro | jordanm, should i do a fakeroot remove and install |
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| 17:11.23 | macrobat | how can i find out what pkgs i have installed from debian-multimedia? do all those pkgs have marillat as a maintainer? |
| 17:11.42 | macrobat | does he maintain regular debian pkgs? |
| 17:12.23 | jelly | he does |
| 17:12.46 | macrobat | then i will have to look more closely :) |
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| 17:14.13 | themill | macrobat: ptitude search '?narrow(?version(CURRENT),?origin(Unofficial Multimedia Packages))' -F'%100p' |
| 17:14.29 | macrobat | wow, ty |
| 17:15.29 | themill | dpkg, dmm list is <reply>To get a list of all the packages you have installed from debian-multimedia.org: aptitude search '?narrow(?version(CURRENT),?origin(Unofficial Multimedia Packages))' -F'%100p'. Also ask me about <which repo>. |
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| 17:15.29 | dpkg | okay, themill |
| 17:15.45 | monokrome | Hey. What is the most current version of Python in Debian5? |
| 17:15.57 | themill | monokrome: python 2.5 |
| 17:16.14 | jelly | ,versions python2.5-minimal |
| 17:16.16 | judd | python2.5-minimal -- etch: 2.5-5+etch2; etch-security: 2.5-5+etch2; lenny: 2.5.2-15; lenny-security: 2.5.2-15+lenny1; sid: 2.5.5-6; squeeze: 2.5.5-6 |
| 17:16.18 | monokrome | Ok, so adding nonfree/universe/etc sources isn't going to get 2.6? |
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| 17:16.28 | jelly | monokrome: nope |
| 17:16.29 | krunk- | I'm getting cron alerts that look like this: /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail: line 880: /usr/sbin/sendmail-msp: No such file or directory |
| 17:16.37 | monokrome | Ok. Thanks. |
| 17:16.44 | krunk- | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:16.59 | jelly | krunk-: some leftover sendmail* packages weren't purged |
| 17:17.07 | krunk- | but my mail server (postfix) appears to be running/routing fine as are the local mail utils |
| 17:17.20 | jelly | but you had sendmail before |
| 17:17.20 | krunk- | jelly: is there a way to purge them after removal? |
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| 17:17.40 | krunk- | right, I think that's the default. postfix provides a sendmail binary so wasn't sure where it was coming from |
| 17:18.03 | jelly | krunk-: sure. Find the cron job definition (ls /etc/cron.*/*sendmail* perhaps), dpkg -S /path/to/that/file, dpkg --purge that package |
| 17:18.16 | krunk- | excellent |
| 17:18.28 | jelly | afair it was something like sendmail-base |
| 17:19.16 | krunk- | hm, dpkg -S /etc/cron.d/sendmail => /etc/cron.d/sendmail not found |
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| 17:19.39 | jelly | hmph, then just go and delete it |
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| 17:19.57 | krunk- | hehe, roger that |
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| 17:20.24 | jelly | krunk-: dpkg -l sendmail\* | grep -v ^.c shows anything? |
| 17:20.35 | jelly | er... without -v |
| 17:21.05 | jelly | rc sendmail-bin 8.13.4-3sarge3 powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans |
| 17:21.15 | Muffin | Hello! I have tried to 'apt-get -b source alpine', after I already "apt-get build-dep alpine"'d, and it is failing. Whom should I pester about this? |
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| 17:21.47 | krunk- | a ton |
| 17:21.49 | jelly | Muffin: which dependency is it failing on? |
| 17:21.55 | jelly | ,versions alpine |
| 17:21.56 | judd | alpine -- etch-backports: 1.10+dfsg-3~bpo40+1; lenny: 1.10+dfsg-3; lenny-backports: 2.00+dfsg-6~bpo50+1; sid: 2.00+dfsg-6; squeeze: 2.00+dfsg-6 |
| 17:22.02 | krunk- | dpkg -l sendmail shows no installed though |
| 17:22.02 | dpkg | No packages found matching sendmail shows no installed though |
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| 17:22.22 | Muffin | jelly: It is not failing on a dependency. It is failing to compile. |
| 17:22.31 | jelly | oh. |
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| 17:22.46 | jelly | Muffin: well if you're using lenny, you could save yourself same work and try the lenny-backports package (/msg dpkg bpo) |
| 17:23.07 | jordanm | jelly: isn't a FTBFS a release critical bug? |
| 17:23.48 | jelly | jordanm: not necessarily |
| 17:23.51 | wvae | hi i m trying to diable my eee's touchpad , hot keys aren't working ( except brightness increase decrease key ) i ve installed eeepc acpi scripts but no luck i did googling but most of the methods only for for ubuntu not for debian |
| 17:23.55 | Muffin | I'm using 'testing.' I'm not sure why a backport would help. I really do want to compile it myself. |
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| 17:24.37 | jelly | Muffin: alright, so you only have testing sources in sources.list? |
| 17:24.55 | jordanm | Muffin: why are you rebuilding a package at all? sid has the same version |
| 17:24.58 | jpinx-eeepc | wvae: which eeepc |
| 17:25.11 | wvae | jpinx-eeepc, 1005ha |
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| 17:25.29 | Muffin | jelly: Correct. |
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| 17:25.38 | jordanm | Muffin: that also appears to be the latest upstream release |
| 17:25.41 | jelly | Muffin: then check current bug reports and file a FTBFS bug if it's not already there |
| 17:25.48 | jelly | !ftbfs |
| 17:25.48 | Muffin | jordanm: Basically, because I need to add the maildir patch to alpine by hand. So I'm trying to compile it correctly for the first time, then I'll do the patch and hope it goes according to plan also. |
| 17:25.48 | dpkg | ftbfs is, like, round and round the buildd goes / where it stops... nobody knows / FTBFS! ... it blows / how I hate the night |
| 17:25.51 | jpinx-eeepc | wvae: Hmmm - dunno for sure, but the wiki tells you how to install everything |
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| 17:26.07 | Muffin | So this is a step 1 thing. |
| 17:26.31 | jordanm | Muffin: are you sure your patch is not the issue? |
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| 17:26.49 | jelly | Muffin: yeah. it ought to build then, and if it doesn't, it's a problem that needs fixing by maintainers |
| 17:27.26 | jelly | jordanm: you look like a reading barbie today! |
| 17:27.31 | Muffin | OK. |
| 17:27.36 | Muffin | jordanm: Patch isn't installed yet. |
| 17:27.43 | Muffin | My plan is to have it build itself cleanly, then apply patch, then rebuild. |
| 17:27.57 | tharkun | Sensible aproach |
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| 17:30.02 | ewet | hi, my webcam works out of the box via gspca (squeeze).. now.. .. how do I turn the video upside-down by default -- I had to install my quickcam upside-down :-/ |
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| 17:34.10 | monokrome | Does debian unstable have Python2.6? |
| 17:34.51 | nevyn | monokrome: packages.debian.org/python2.6 |
| 17:34.54 | monokrome | Oh, packages.debian.org has a package database :D |
| 17:34.56 | monokrome | nice |
| 17:35.05 | monokrome | Thank you, nevyn |
| 17:35.21 | nevyn | why are you asking tho... |
| 17:35.27 | monokrome | I want Python2.6 |
| 17:35.35 | monokrome | I'd rather go to unstable than compile it |
| 17:35.41 | nevyn | hrm |
| 17:35.44 | themill | monokrome: what does py2.6 do that you really need? |
| 17:35.45 | monokrome | This is just a dev server. |
| 17:35.47 | jordanm | monokrome: are you running unstable? |
| 17:35.48 | nevyn | check backports first |
| 17:35.59 | themill | it's not really backportable |
| 17:36.05 | jordanm | nevyn: no backports for this... that package initially cause many issues |
| 17:36.12 | nevyn | oh right. |
| 17:36.15 | nevyn | remembers how |
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| 17:36.24 | monokrome | Causes many issues? |
| 17:36.45 | nevyn | the integration of python2.6 into debian was.. challenging |
| 17:36.57 | jordanm | monokrome: there were 100+ release critical bugs filed against it at one point |
| 17:36.57 | monokrome | Interesting. |
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| 17:37.37 | jordanm | mostly FTBFS |
| 17:37.37 | nevyn | ouch. |
| 17:37.37 | cahoot | ewet: got a /sys/module/gspca/parameters/rotate to edit? |
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| 17:37.37 | nevyn | how do you end up with more ftbfs bugs than there are supported archs? |
| 17:37.38 | monokrome | Python 2.6 has the json module, some ctypes stuff, and one keyword that I use commonly and can't remember which one :D |
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| 17:37.54 | monokrome | I have a project that I'm working on locally in Python2.6, and I am writing a server for it that I want to work for the same version |
| 17:38.23 | themill | monokrome: the json module(s) also exist for py2.5 as do ctypes. |
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| 17:38.27 | jordanm | nevyn: other python packages were FTBFS, and the bugs were filed against the python2.6 packages, even if the changes needed to be made to the other packages for the transition |
| 17:38.29 | themill | .o0(where's babilen when you need him) |
| 17:38.44 | tharkun | Having an exam? |
| 17:38.45 | monokrome | Normally I'd stick with 2.5, but 2.6 suits the current project considering it's just a dev box and I want to keep Python versions consistent. |
| 17:38.53 | jordanm | themill: is he a python guy? |
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| 17:39.21 | monokrome | themill: The json module is basically just simplejson, and the ctypes exist but there are some changes in 2.6 |
| 17:40.02 | nevyn | ah ticket hockey. |
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| 17:41.36 | jordanm | monokrome: for a dev box you might consider just running squeeze (not something I typically recommend) |
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| 17:42.08 | tharkun | jordanm: stable with vm of squeeze or sid sometimes it is more appropiate |
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| 17:42.22 | ewet | cahoot, my corresponding modules are gspca_main, gspca_stv06xx and gspca_zc3xx. modprobe $MODULE vflip=1 doesn't work and there's no parameters/rotate in any corresponding /sys/module directories |
| 17:42.23 | themill | or a squeeze chroot with schroot |
| 17:42.42 | tharkun | yes |
| 17:42.53 | monokrome | jordanm: That's an interesting idea, but squeez doesn't pack the Python executable anyway - right? |
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| 17:43.25 | monokrome | I already have a virtualenv with pip/fabric set up accordingly |
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| 17:43.49 | JyZyXEL | how might i do system stress testing, especially for memory as i just overclocked them slightly? |
| 17:43.50 | monokrome | I had considered simply compiling Python2.6 and using that in the virtualenv |
| 17:44.04 | monokrome | Might be the better option. |
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| 17:46.50 | exobyte | I'm having a very strange issue: I do touch Makefile; make clean, and make says Makefile has a modification time two hours in the future |
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| 17:47.37 | exobyte | hmm...date is two hours behind |
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| 17:48.55 | d1b | exobyte: install ntp |
| 17:49.07 | valdyn | JyZyXEL: compile kernels |
| 17:49.34 | exobyte | d1b: is "ntp" the exact pacakge name? I seem to remember there being some overlap between ntpd, ntpclient, and ntp |
| 17:49.35 | JyZyXEL | is there a script to do that in loops? |
| 17:49.45 | themill | ,info memtester |
| 17:49.46 | judd | memtester (utils, optional): A utility for testing the memory subsystem. Version: 4.0.8-1; Size: 12.2k; Installed: 40k; Homepage: http://pyropus.ca/software/memtester/ |
| 17:49.53 | d1b | exobyte: yes |
| 17:49.54 | d1b | nto |
| 17:49.58 | d1b | ntp* |
| 17:50.08 | valdyn | JyZyXEL: im sure there is one on google |
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| 17:50.22 | valdyn | JyZyXEL: in every bash tutorial for beginners |
| 17:50.54 | d1b | pft just skip that and learn python! |
| 17:51.10 | valdyn | wrong tool for the job |
| 17:51.11 | exobyte | d1b: yes-ish. bash scripting is painful, but sometimes you need it |
| 17:51.18 | d1b | exobyte: neva |
| 17:51.23 | valdyn | and a loop isnt hard in bash either |
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| 17:51.45 | d1b | for i in `ls`; do echo "oh god" ; done |
| 17:51.47 | exobyte | valdyn: while [ 1 ] ; do echo foreva! ; done |
| 17:52.19 | monokrome | wonders how difficult a network install is, since he has no blank CDs |
| 17:52.40 | d1b | monokrome: done pxe before? |
| 17:52.40 | valdyn | monokrome: as difficult as the complete Cd install |
| 17:52.47 | monokrome | d1b: Nope |
| 17:52.50 | exobyte | monokrome: you can do a flash-based install |
| 17:52.55 | exobyte | px is painful |
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| 17:53.05 | monokrome | Don't have a flash device. Debian doesn't read my card reader. |
| 17:53.16 | exobyte | monokrome: OHH!! debootstrap |
| 17:53.20 | valdyn | pxe is nice and not to hard anyway |
| 17:53.21 | tharkun | What is the factoid where it explains how to migrate one package from sid to stable? |
| 17:53.23 | monokrome | exobyte: Yea, that's the part that I'm worried about. |
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| 17:53.32 | d1b | !downgrade |
| 17:53.32 | dpkg | [downgrade] Downgrading is not possible with apt-get/aptitude and no future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later, and package maintainer scripts provide ways to upgrade to new config file formats but not ways to downgrade. You can always try to downgrade a package using dpkg -i <olderversion.deb>. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
| 17:53.37 | d1b | tharkun: no no no |
| 17:53.41 | cahoot | ssb |
| 17:53.43 | tharkun | i know that one |
| 17:53.46 | exobyte | monokrome: use debootstrap. |
| 17:53.46 | tharkun | cahoot thx |
| 17:54.16 | tharkun | Someone should add a reference to it in the bpo factoid |
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| 17:54.20 | monokrome | exobyte: I don't want to do that. Seems a bit messy. |
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| 17:54.28 | d1b | oooh you meant one package |
| 17:54.29 | exobyte | monokrome: it's not. |
| 17:54.47 | monokrome | exobyte: Wont I end up with my system's files within another system's files? |
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| 17:54.53 | exobyte | monokrome: no. |
| 17:55.02 | d1b | tharkun: ah right you can use /etc/apt/prefences ... etc. |
| 17:55.06 | jordanm | tharkun: the factoid is rather full already |
| 17:55.18 | exobyte | monokrome: you unpack directly to that device |
| 17:55.20 | tharkun | jordanm: ok, just suggesting |
| 17:55.48 | monokrome | exobyte: Well, I can't have the system running while I format it's filesystem |
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| 17:56.42 | exobyte | monokrome: you use *another* debian system (or knoppix. use virtualbox if necessary) with the destination hard drive attached |
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| 17:56.49 | exobyte | hmm... |
| 17:57.03 | d1b | ilovebacon.org awesome |
| 17:57.03 | monokrome | Yea, getting the HDD out of this box is a chore. |
| 17:57.25 | monokrome | I'd rather figure out a network install, I think. |
| 17:57.47 | tharkun | btw the procedure on ssb will not work something is wrong with build-essential , sid packages depend on build-essential 11.5 which is on squeeze and sid, not on lenny |
| 17:57.59 | exobyte | monokrome, have fun! |
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| 18:01.08 | ewet | no ideas? |
| 18:01.36 | ewet | would be a shame if I had to dump my webcam just because of that.. |
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| 18:13.14 | laomao | hi... i'm building a very very lightweight desktop environment, so am using openbox as a window manager; I'd like something that allows me to launch programs by name without needing menus or icons - any suggestions? |
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| 18:14.16 | cahoot | like typing the name in a terminal? |
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| 18:14.53 | NativeAngels | hello has anyone here installed debian on a sunfire v100 |
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| 18:15.56 | laomao | cahoot: yeah but without the stderr noise |
| 18:17.20 | zobel | 2>/dev/null |
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| 18:27.34 | mariya | for some reason my gconf-editor reports that /desktop/gnome/... key are not associated with any scheme/ owner, which should be gnome, very odd, any ideas? |
| 18:28.15 | mariya | keys* |
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| 18:28.44 | monokrome | So, the proper method for network installing w/ PXE is to PXE boot into the live CD and from there install it on the local device like a normal live cd? |
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| 18:36.25 | dutchfish | monokrome: s/live cd/install cd ... but yes |
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| 18:38.13 | panfist | apt-get update is used to get new package index files...where are these files stored? |
| 18:39.25 | error4o4 | maybe its the wrong channel, but not sure where to ask.. can i configure my MX records so the email is both beeing received by the local server and additionally sent out to a backup server? |
| 18:39.48 | dutchfish | panfist: /var/lib/apt/lists |
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| 18:40.05 | error4o4 | or do I have to reconfigure the MTA to achieve this |
| 18:40.07 | panfist | thanks |
| 18:40.24 | jordanm | error4o4: no, you will not be able to get people's clients to send to both places, you need to do it on your end |
| 18:40.32 | asg | error4o4: the latter. Mail will only be delivered to one or the other MX depending on weight and availability |
| 18:40.51 | error4o4 | jordanm, asg: ok thx |
| 18:41.16 | panfist | i was asking because i have a deployment that's separated from the internet, and i was wondering, if i sync /var/lib/apt/lists and /var/cache/apt/archives, will that be adequate to keep thoses hosts up to date? |
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| 18:41.54 | birdjeff | exit |
| 18:41.54 | dutchfish | panfist: prolly not, however i am not sure about that |
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| 18:42.06 | asg | error4o4: you're welcome |
| 18:42.18 | panfist | well, even though you're not sure, what do you think i'd be missing? |
| 18:42.21 | jordanm | panfist: I would setup a local repository |
| 18:43.09 | dutchfish | panfist: or delve into apt-cache or alike |
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| 18:43.29 | guevolt | I'm having a big problem. My Iptables is blocking a connection that I need allow. I don't know which is the port that the Iptables is blocking. How can i resolve this problem? |
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| 18:43.59 | d1b | guevolt: remove the iptables rule... |
| 18:44.48 | asg | guevolt: use a logging rule to identify what is being blocked. #netfilter can assist you with the syntax. |
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| 18:49.23 | jordanm | thats assuming that iptables really is the problem. if he doesn't know which ports iptables is blocking, he probably didn't configure iptables rules |
| 18:49.59 | coffeecup | hello, i mounted my windows paritions with cifs in my vm, is it anyhow possible to create symoblic links on this partitions? i always get "operation not upported" |
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| 18:50.50 | ornia | Hi, I am trying to build a 2.6.32 kernel in squeeze or so that has Xen domain 0 host OS support. Even though there is a linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 package in Debian that has the Xen domain 0 patches compiled and enabled, I do not see it in the linux-source-2.6.32 |
| 18:51.10 | ornia | Does this mean I need to get the linux-source-2.6.32 and manually add the domain 0 patches myself? |
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| 18:51.37 | jordanm | ornia: why are you building it if it exists already? |
| 18:52.28 | dutchfish | panfist: also take a peak at apt-cache dumpavail (from an up to date system) |
| 18:53.00 | jordanm | coffeecup: its likely that CIFS or the NTFS does not support symlinks. couldn't say for sure |
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| 18:53.32 | d1b | ornia: well |
| 18:53.33 | jordanm | ornia: anyways, I would suggest searching menuconfig for xen |
| 18:53.37 | d1b | it uses para virt |
| 18:53.45 | d1b | pv_ops |
| 18:54.02 | d1b | http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenDom0Kernels |
| 18:54.47 | ornia | jordanm: I am in need of patching the mvsas driver |
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| 18:55.28 | ornia | I have a SATA/SAS controller card called the AOC-SASLP-MV8 |
| 18:55.30 | ornia | Here's the thread: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.scsi/57088 |
| 18:55.31 | ornia | Here's the patch: http://cache.gmane.org//gmane/linux/scsi/57145-001.bin |
| 18:55.41 | coffeecup | okay, i guess its ntfs :] ... thx |
| 18:55.48 | ornia | The forum instructions I found said "put it in your 2.6.32 source folder and do a patch -p1 < whatever-you-saved-it-as , recompile, install, good to go! |
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| 18:55.55 | panfist | nooo not the aoc-saslp-mv8...that thing scares me |
| 18:56.13 | ornia | panfist: Yeah, sucks that the patches are not in upstream Linux yet =/ |
| 18:56.24 | ornia | Would be an ideal piece of hardware for my purposes otherwise. |
| 18:56.37 | ornia | jordanm: So does that answer your question why I am building? |
| 18:56.53 | panfist | is it only ideal because it's cheap |
| 18:56.55 | panfist | ? |
| 18:57.02 | d1b | ornia: why can't you use kvm? |
| 18:57.05 | ornia | Also, the only Xen stuff that Debian's linux-source-2.6.32 package has is domain U guest support via pv_ops |
| 18:57.17 | d1b | ornia: no it has dom0 |
| 18:57.20 | d1b | iirc |
| 18:57.20 | ornia | d1b: I would rather have full paravirtualisation of complete OSes |
| 18:57.33 | d1b | ornia: .... |
| 18:57.37 | ornia | d1b: linux-source-2.6.32 has dom0 paravirt_ops settings? Where? |
| 18:57.40 | d1b | kvm is the way forward |
| 18:57.52 | d1b | http://wiki.debian.org/Xen |
| 18:58.00 | ornia | d1b: I disagree. Xen is more useful in my case. I am encrypting all of my guests with Serpent 256-bit encryption |
| 18:58.14 | ornia | It seems simpler to do with Xen |
| 18:58.30 | d1b | ornia: useless, as the host knows about the key ;P |
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| 18:58.56 | d1b | it is in memory |
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| 18:59.07 | ornia | d1b: In RAM, yes. my dom0 has no swap however. |
| 18:59.30 | ornia | But I am not protecting against people who are going to freeze my RAM whilst transporting my server to another location./ |
| 18:59.45 | ornia | I think it is most likely they will power off, boot up and realise they cannot decrypt any of my guests. |
| 18:59.54 | project2501a | 128 cores, 512GB ram |
| 18:59.57 | project2501a | i think that's enough |
| 19:00.15 | d1b | project2501a: 1024 cpus ftw |
| 19:00.37 | ornia | d1b: That page you linked to does not answer my question. |
| 19:00.44 | project2501a | in a couple of months, inshallah |
| 19:00.47 | NativeAngels | hello has anyone installed the sparc version of debian |
| 19:00.56 | abrotman | !sparc |
| 19:00.56 | dpkg | [sparc] the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded systems usually run Solaris. For more information about SPARC, see http://www.sparc.org/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARC . To install Debian, ask me about <install guide> and see http://wiki.debian.org/PortsSparc . For help with Debian on SPARC, join #debian-sparc on irc.oftc.net. |
| 19:00.59 | ornia | In kernels patched with paravirt_ops dom0 support, the option would be in a specific location |
| 19:01.17 | Appetite | What do i restart to reload the /etc/security/limits.conf file? |
| 19:01.30 | ornia | I do not see a way to enable domain 0 Xen support in this location, unless Debian has moved it in linux-source-2.6.32 |
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| 19:03.44 | poincare201 | Hello. I have a question about mounting. if I have a flash drive, how do I find out which /dev/ file descriptor it is located in? I need to dd an iso. |
| 19:03.59 | dutchfish | ornia: what are you taking about, the only latest dom0 kernel i saw working was 2.6.29 with stciks in a weelchair ... |
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| 19:04.22 | d1b | dutchfish: hahaahahahhhah |
| 19:05.10 | ornia | dutchfish: There is a precompiled 2.6.32 domain 0 kernel in Debian |
| 19:05.23 | poincare101 | anyone for my question? |
| 19:05.47 | ornia | It works with domain U just as any Debian kernel since 2.6.27 or so did via paravirt_ops, and for the first time domain 0 support also uses paravirt_ops |
| 19:05.56 | dutchfish | ornia: unless you are brave and have pulled the latest mercurial and rolled your own i see no way for now until next xen is ready, that might be sooner then you think ... i dont know |
| 19:06.11 | ornia | Domain 0 support is going to be upstream in 2.6.36 as well but Debian has kindly patched the 2.6.32 kernel |
| 19:06.27 | d1b | ornia: im not sure about that |
| 19:06.40 | d1b | check the wiki |
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| 19:07.20 | ornia | dutchfish: Ah but the 2.6.32-xen-amd64 kernel works perfectly so I figured getting the source version of that package, logically, would have the same patches available. |
| 19:07.36 | d1b | ornia: oh it does? |
| 19:07.38 | ornia | I wasn't expecting to have to patch the source package of 2.6.32-xen-amd64 with the Xen patches. |
| 19:07.52 | ornia | Seeing as that kernel is already domain 0 ready |
| 19:07.55 | ornia | Yeah I am using it right now |
| 19:07.56 | jordanm | ornia: did you look in debian/patches? |
| 19:08.03 | ornia | I just need to patch my mvsas driver |
| 19:08.13 | dutchfish | shakes head and wanders away |
| 19:08.16 | jordanm | is guessing "xen" is a target in debian/rules |
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| 19:08.33 | ornia | jordanm: Would this be a subdirectory within the tarball of the linux-source-2.6.32? |
| 19:09.08 | ornia | dutchfish: You've expressed very little knowledge about the current state of Xen in Debian thus far to be so haughty. |
| 19:09.09 | jordanm | ornia: oh, no, it would be from the actual source package. apt-get source foo |
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| 19:10.02 | ornia | jordanm: Picking 'linux-2.6' as source package instead of 'linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64' |
| 19:10.17 | ornia | I am afraid that this will not have the dom0 patches in it but I will check. |
| 19:10.31 | ornia | Would I have to apply a patch before the domain0 options will show up in make menuconfig? |
| 19:10.51 | jordanm | ornia: AFAIK, yes |
| 19:11.02 | jordanm | ornia: and that makes sense given my statement a min ago |
| 19:11.11 | d1b | ornia: if you pull it from squeeze --> the source it might work... |
| 19:12.12 | ornia | aga, linux-2.6-2.6.32/debian/patches/features/all/xen/pvops.patch |
| 19:12.13 | ornia | ! |
| 19:12.40 | d1b | neat |
| 19:12.54 | jordanm | ornia: that will likely be applied based on debian/rules |
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| 19:13.14 | monokrome | Looks like I found a flash drive. That should be easier and faster than the network install. :D |
| 19:13.31 | jordanm | monokrome: I wouldn't bet on that |
| 19:14.12 | ornia | jordanm: What is the difference between the directory within the tarball retrieved by running "apt-get install linux-source-2.6.32" and the one retrieved by running "apt-get source linux-2.6" ?? |
| 19:15.08 | ornia | The former is named linux-2.6-2.6.32 and is 454MiB, and the latter is named linux-source-2.6.32 and is 421MiB |
| 19:15.08 | jordanm | ornia: I have no idea about the linux-source binary package. apt-get source actually pulls down the .dsc .tar.orig .changes files from the source package used to build the binary |
| 19:15.09 | monokrome | jordanm: Easier than PXE :D |
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| 19:15.49 | jordanm | ornia: I just assume linux-source is there for you to roll your own |
| 19:16.19 | ornia | jordanm: Roll my own what? Kernel? Isn't that what I am trying to do? |
| 19:16.27 | ornia | I just need this mvsas module to be patched. |
| 19:16.51 | ornia | But it looks like I need to recompile to do this, so am I not technically rolling my own? |
| 19:17.18 | ornia | Which is recommended for me to use to accomplish my goals, linux-source-2.6.32 binary package (which just has a source tarball) or the apt-get source for linux-2.6? |
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| 19:19.01 | ornia | Actually, it looks like apt-get source linux-2.6 has more Debian-specific stuff (including my dom0 Xen patch) which might explain the larger size by ~30 MiB |
| 19:19.27 | lindi- | ornia: linux-source should have the same patches |
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| 19:19.58 | dutchfish | well, it has Build-Depends: linux-libc-dev (>= 2.6.31) so i dont know yet if 2.6.32 or later kernel will be used. I gues if all goes well the new kid will arive not sooner then 2.6.35 (xen) maybe later. |
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| 19:19.59 | smacnay | anyone know how to tweak Nautilus to show a "Send to" option with "mail recipient"? |
| 19:20.00 | ornia | lindi-: Well there is no debian/ subdir inside the folder in the linux-source tarball |
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| 19:20.19 | jordanm | lindi-: sure? I wouldn't have guessed that by reading the package description |
| 19:20.29 | jordanm | "This |
| 19:20.48 | jordanm | gah... I hate my client and its failure to convert \n to spaces |
| 19:20.50 | lindi- | ornia: true but linux-source-2.6.32 binary package is built from linux-2.6 source package, right? |
| 19:20.56 | lindi- | jordanm: not 100% sure |
| 19:21.25 | jordanm | lindi-: it looks like linux-source (going by the description) is vanilla sources |
| 19:22.21 | lindi- | jordanm: it says 'Description: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.32 with Debian patches' |
| 19:22.24 | d1b | jordanm: i doubt it... |
| 19:22.24 | dutchfish | jordanm: noramlly debian has its own patches to it, but again i think it all boils down to speculation, lets wait till the devs anounce it. |
| 19:22.38 | lindi- | jordanm: so it's definitely not vanilla |
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| 19:22.54 | lindi- | jordanm: vanilla isn't even DFSG-free |
| 19:23.02 | d1b | lindi-: erh? |
| 19:23.03 | jordanm | lindi-: ah, you are right. I was confused by the long description |
| 19:23.06 | d1b | you mean firmware |
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| 19:23.10 | lindi- | d1b: yeah |
| 19:23.33 | lindi- | jordanm: it's bit confusing yes |
| 19:23.41 | d1b | lindi-: omho only openbsd does that properly |
| 19:23.43 | ornia | Wait, so linux-source binary package just has a tarball when you download it |
| 19:23.46 | lindi- | ornia: you can apt-get source linux-2.6 and build only the variant you want |
| 19:23.55 | d1b | in debian damn rt73 isn't in firmware free last time i looked |
| 19:23.58 | d1b | how much fail is that? |
| 19:24.01 | ornia | lindi-: By variant do you mean microarchitecture? |
| 19:24.03 | lindi- | ornia: but there's a catch, you can not build linux-headers-* that way |
| 19:24.13 | lindi- | ornia: -686 -xen -vserver |
| 19:24.19 | lindi- | ornia: flavour is the term i think |
| 19:24.46 | ornia | All it does is download a /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.32.tar.bz2 file |
| 19:25.02 | d1b | ornia: use the more debian like kernel |
| 19:25.09 | ornia | And that tarball has no debian/ subdirectory, which is where I found the Xen domain 0 patch |
| 19:25.09 | lindi- | ornia: let me look it up |
| 19:25.11 | d1b | patch as you want |
| 19:25.13 | ornia | d1b: Right |
| 19:25.17 | ornia | That's the feeling I got |
| 19:25.18 | lindi- | ornia: http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage |
| 19:25.49 | lindi- | ornia: that'll give you packages that behave identically to official ones |
| 19:26.36 | ornia | lindi-: Cool, but how do I tell it to apply a specific patch within the debian/patches subdirectory and not all of them? |
| 19:26.59 | lindi- | ornia: my guess is that they are managed with quilt |
| 19:27.24 | dutchfish | points to http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2010-03/msg00235.html |
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| 19:27.31 | jordanm | which should say in debian/source/format |
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| 19:27.46 | lindi- | jordanm: no i mean it used quilt even before new source format |
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| 19:27.54 | ornia | Also I have a patch that is not designed for Debian kernels which is the point of this whole process for me... I need to patch the mvsas driver/module with this: |
| 19:28.01 | ornia | http://cache.gmane.org//gmane/linux/scsi/57145-001.bin |
| 19:28.24 | lindi- | ornia: mysterious patch without comments? ;) |
| 19:28.25 | jordanm | lindi-: ah, in that case, wouldn't the rules include something like /usr/share/quilt/quilt.make? |
| 19:28.55 | lindi- | jordanm: not sure |
| 19:28.55 | ornia | lindi-: I need to have this to have my hardware work... =/ |
| 19:29.14 | ornia | dutchfish: I considered this, but usually people in Debian tell me to compile the kernel the Debian-way |
| 19:30.18 | d1b | ornia: is it merged upstream? |
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| 19:30.47 | Appetite | i'm getting a segfault when i do apt-get install: Segmentation faultsts... 0% |
| 19:30.49 | Appetite | any ideas? |
| 19:30.56 | d1b | Appetite: apt-get clean |
| 19:31.01 | d1b | and provide more details |
| 19:31.13 | Appetite | d1b: only more details i know to provide are that i'm installing pwgen |
| 19:31.25 | Appetite | i cleaned, still getting the segfault, d1b |
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| 19:32.01 | jordanm | Appetite: pastebin: apt-cache policy; apt-cache policy libc6 pwgen apt dpkg; along with the full output of your failed command |
| 19:32.24 | Appetite | jordanm: that was the full output of my failed command. |
| 19:32.43 | jordanm | Appetite: alright, provide the rest |
| 19:32.43 | Appetite | was it because i was logged in under a non-priv user, and i did "su" then tried? |
| 19:32.55 | Appetite | i just logged in as a priveleged user and did it and it's working fine |
| 19:33.11 | jordanm | Appetite: no, su is the typical way for gaining root for administration |
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| 19:33.27 | Appetite | jordanm: hm, that's quite odd then. anything apt-get related segfaulted |
| 19:33.47 | jhutchins_lt | Please always remember to use "su -", not just "su". |
| 19:33.59 | Appetite | why, jhutchins_lt ? |
| 19:34.06 | jordanm | jhutchins_lt: I never do that... |
| 19:34.13 | ornia | d1b: Is what merged upstream? |
| 19:34.17 | jordanm | Appetite: the - or -l spawns an actual login session for roo |
| 19:34.18 | d1b | ornia: the patch |
| 19:34.19 | jordanm | root |
| 19:34.20 | jhutchins_lt | su alone uses the current user's path and environment, which is almost always not what you want. |
| 19:34.21 | ornia | Oh, the mvsas patch? |
| 19:34.23 | ornia | No not yet. |
| 19:34.33 | jhutchins_lt | su - uses root's path and environment (or the target user's). |
| 19:34.35 | d1b | yay! |
| 19:35.14 | jordanm | still... applications should not segfault, and I would like to see that pastebin |
| 19:35.44 | d1b | jhutchins_lt: this is debian we can su. we don't need su - iirc |
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| 19:36.27 | Appetite | if i use useradd -m, and in /etc/adduser.conf i have LETTER_HOMES defined, will useradd comply with it? or will it do /home/user ? |
| 19:36.40 | [zaf]-Coral | Just wondering if you were able to direct me to a debian php4 4.2 repository please. |
| 19:36.57 | smacnay | hmm, totem cannot play most video. |
| 19:36.59 | d1b | [zaf]-Coral: destroyed |
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| 19:37.11 | [zaf]-Coral | d1b: :? |
| 19:37.14 | d1b | [zaf]-Coral: php4 is *not* supported |
| 19:37.21 | [zaf]-Coral | :( |
| 19:37.24 | [zaf]-Coral | I realise that |
| 19:37.29 | [zaf]-Coral | our server crashed |
| 19:37.34 | [zaf]-Coral | and need it |
| 19:37.41 | d1b | if you really must you can find it in archives of debian. |
| 19:37.42 | [zaf]-Coral | have been googling for hours :S |
| 19:37.44 | [zaf]-Coral | thanks though :D |
| 19:37.51 | d1b | !archive |
| 19:37.51 | dpkg | it has been said that archive is a collection of files. 'tar', 'ar', 'cpio' are all archiving tools. This is *not* the same as compression, which is a separate operation. Debian Archives is the repository for old Debian releases, see http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive . For the package archive, ask me about <snapshot>. Old Debian <ISO> files are archived at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 19:38.14 | d1b | obviously you h=want debian arcives |
| 19:38.15 | jordanm | Appetite: useradd uses its own configuration file, /etc/default/useradd IIRC |
| 19:38.26 | Appetite | ah ok jordanm i'll check that |
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| 19:39.07 | [zaf]-Coral | d1b: apparently :P |
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| 19:39.23 | d1b | [zaf]-Coral: script kiddies love php4 |
| 19:39.35 | d1b | RFI fun. |
| 19:39.46 | jhutchins_lt | d1b: No, you still need the - |
| 19:39.56 | d1b | jhutchins_lt: because? |
| 19:39.59 | d1b | in fedora yeah |
| 19:40.02 | d1b | but in debian.... |
| 19:40.11 | jhutchins_lt | d1b: It's exactly the same command. |
| 19:40.11 | jordanm | Appetite: although, looking at that option, I doubt useradd would have something like that |
| 19:40.21 | jhutchins_lt | d1b: Works exactly the same way. |
| 19:40.22 | d1b | jhutchins_lt: su and su - are the same in debian |
| 19:40.35 | Appetite | jordanm: any way to emulate it? i'd like ot add a user in one line, non-interactively |
| 19:40.56 | jhutchins_lt | d1b: Do you know of any documentation for that claim? |
| 19:41.00 | d1b | man su |
| 19:41.18 | d1b | Appetite: rtfm |
| 19:41.23 | d1b | adduser should do as you want |
| 19:41.38 | [zaf]-Coral | d1b: are you trying to suggest something |
| 19:41.46 | d1b | [zaf]-Coral: sorry no. |
| 19:41.47 | [zaf]-Coral | I don't think I was old enough to use php 4 ;-) |
| 19:41.49 | jordanm | Appetite: I would just write a function |
| 19:42.21 | jhutchins_lt | d1b: According to the man page it's the same as it is for other distros. |
| 19:42.33 | Appetite | d1b: i dont see how to tell adduser to be non interactive |
| 19:42.41 | d1b | Appetite: aaah oh that's what you want |
| 19:42.48 | Appetite | d1b: yeah, that's what i said. |
| 19:43.04 | Appetite | but i still want the LETTER_HOMES option of adduser, if possible |
| 19:43.08 | jhutchins_lt | d1b: It's also good practice to use standard commands that are cross-distro safe. |
| 19:43.27 | d1b | jhutchins_lt: lies ;P rm -rf / is safe! |
| 19:43.37 | d1b | sleep |
| 19:43.40 | jordanm | Appetite: 1 sec |
| 19:43.45 | Appetite | alrighty, jordanm |
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| 19:44.42 | jhutchins_lt | d1b: It looks like debian sets the path manually, which means new users who don't know any better can use "su" and commands won't fail, so they won't know they're risking their user environment. |
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| 19:52.13 | jordanm | Appetite: I was thinking something like this: function myuseradd { letter=$(echo "$1" | cut -b1); useradd -m -d /home/"$letter"/"$1" }; |
| 19:52.36 | Appetite | hm, what is the -d option O.o? |
| 19:52.38 | Appetite | did i miss that? |
| 19:52.52 | Appetite | ah |
| 19:52.54 | Appetite | silly me |
| 19:52.56 | Appetite | thanks jordanm :) |
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| 19:53.37 | jordanm | Appetite: np, I enjoyed figuring that one out :) |
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| 19:55.57 | Computer | computer stops booting at starting PPTP daemon. |
| 19:56.10 | Computer | obviously i set up PPTP incorrectly |
| 19:56.21 | Computer | how can i boot into Debian and disable this? |
| 19:56.31 | Appetite | single user mode? |
| 19:56.52 | Appetite | How does one disable ssh login as root? |
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| 19:57.41 | rudi_s | Appetite: PermitRootLogin no in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 19:57.47 | Appetite | thanks a bunch rudi_s |
| 19:57.56 | rudi_s | np (man sshd_config gives you more options) |
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| 20:00.11 | onedeep69 | hi |
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| 20:07.45 | smiley979879 | anyone know how I can convert a .tar.gz into a .deb file....all I really want to the .deb file to do is install the files into the same dir that uncompressing the .tar.gz file would do....but I want to be able to install it via apt |
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| 20:08.58 | Computer | dpkg-deb maybe |
| 20:09.25 | smiley979879 | ill look at that...thanks |
| 20:09.51 | jordanm | smiley979879: checkinstall |
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| 20:10.40 | jordanm | smiley979879: although, that is not the proper way to do it. if you want to install something locally, there is no need for .deb or dpkg, and you would only be able to install it with apt if you placed it in a repo |
| 20:11.41 | smiley979879 | yeah...I was going to maintain a repo with a few packages |
| 20:12.04 | jelly-home | smiley979879: alien |
| 20:12.18 | smiley979879 | I am trying to automate some things...I could just use .tar.gz files...but I thought it would be nice if I could use apt |
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| 20:13.49 | jordanm | smiley979879: you should install them to a proper location |
| 20:13.52 | tharkun | jelly-home: I reviewed all major supliers of servers. It will cost me an arm and a leg to have real hardware raid. Do you know of a place to research for specs about motherboards. I absolutely need hw raid i am not willing to pay whatever else they believe i need when i know i dont |
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| 20:14.37 | jordanm | smiley979879: if you had installed somewhere like /home/youruser/thepackage, it would try to remove the youruser/ directory from a purge |
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| 20:15.02 | Smiley | :o |
| 20:15.10 | Smiley | holy cow thats alotta highlights ;) |
| 20:15.21 | Smiley | goes away ;) |
| 20:16.48 | jelly-home | tharkun: yeah, raid costs $$$ (not that much more than a baseline eg. HP Proliant, but I dunno what budget you're dealing with) |
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| 20:17.42 | tharkun | Between 1500 and 2000 usd, but for true hw raid i have to buy servers wich are way too much for the actual needs |
| 20:17.47 | dkr | some people forget that the I stands for Inexpensive, :) |
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| 20:18.14 | tharkun | dkr: Tell that to Dell or HP |
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| 20:20.00 | mmestnik | Hello, is there a help channel for GNU make? I'd like to use make as an interpiter for a script. What should I use for a #!? |
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| 20:20.23 | mmestnik | The obvious suggestion didn't work. |
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| 20:22.11 | tharkun | mmestnik: do a shell script that invokes the make command |
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| 20:23.01 | ornia | My Radeon card's HDMI port is being detected in Debian as the primary sound card in ALSA. How can I tell ALSA to ignore this completely? |
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| 20:23.57 | abrotman | ornia: probably better to ask #alsa |
| 20:24.00 | mmestnik | Hello, is there a help channel for make? I'd like to use make as an interpiter for a script. What should I use for a #!? |
| 20:24.01 | jordanm | ornia: what version of debian? |
| 20:24.25 | jordanm | mmestnik: ##workinggroup or something like that IIRC |
| 20:24.41 | mmestnik | Sorry, I'm not at all able to make use of Windos XP for copy/paste. |
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| 20:24.43 | ornia | jordanm: sid |
| 20:24.56 | jordanm | ornia: #alsa |
| 20:25.42 | mmestnik | jordanm: Saddly I can't find it. |
| 20:26.14 | jordanm | mmestnik: ah, its ##workingset |
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| 20:26.36 | jordanm | atleast thats the channel the #bash bot suggest for make help |
| 20:27.28 | derobert_work | Anyone know what happened to http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ ? |
| 20:28.02 | Appetite | this happens every time i run mondoarchive: http://codepad.org/LQLdjo56 |
| 20:28.13 | Appetite | if it's too difficult to fix or not worth it, i'll use another backup tool if anyone can name a good one |
| 20:28.24 | jordanm | derobert_work: seems IRC lags about 10min behind the debian-users list :). unknown, this mirror is still up: http://debian-multimedia.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/ |
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| 20:29.07 | jordanm | Appetite: are you using the debian kernel? |
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| 20:29.27 | Appetite | jordanm: yes i'm using the default squeeze netinst install |
| 20:29.29 | jordanm | ,versions mondoarchive |
| 20:29.31 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'mondoarchive' was found. |
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| 20:29.45 | Appetite | ,versions mondo |
| 20:29.46 | judd | mondo -- etch: 2.20-1.1; sid: 1:2.2.7-2.1; squeeze: 1:2.2.7-2.1 |
| 20:29.50 | derobert_work | jordanm: thank you |
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| 20:30.00 | jordanm | Appetite: uname -r says what? |
| 20:30.18 | Appetite | 2.6.32-3-686 |
| 20:30.51 | bolt | how can I make mdadm start using a spare drive I have? my array has 3 active drives, 1 "removed" and one spare. i can't find any option to use the spare drive! |
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| 20:31.47 | Appetite | jordanm: if you know of another backup tool i'll use it instead, i'm not 'hooked' on using mondo |
| 20:31.48 | derobert_work | bolt: it should automatically if the array is degraded |
| 20:31.53 | jhutchins | bolt: Should be the same as recovering from a failed drive. |
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| 20:32.40 | bolt | derobert_work: it's not done automatically. i just made a raid 5 array, and the manual actually does mention it will put one of the drives as spare. it just doesn't seem to mention how the heck i can use that spare |
| 20:33.14 | jordanm | Appetite: rsnapshot |
| 20:33.22 | Appetite | jordanm: alright. |
| 20:33.30 | bolt | "When creating a RAID5 array, mdadm will automatically create a degraded array with an extra spare drive." |
| 20:33.54 | derobert_work | bolt: then it starts the rebuild on to that drive |
| 20:34.06 | bolt | derobert_work: it doesn't seem to do so |
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| 20:34.39 | derobert_work | bolt: is the array started? can you pastebin /proc/mdstat somewhere? |
| 20:34.48 | bolt | http://pastebin.com/ZsXQUDyt |
| 20:34.51 | bolt | that's mdadm --detail |
| 20:35.30 | bolt | i think this is exactly what it's supposed to do |
| 20:35.33 | derobert_work | bolt: what about /proc/mdstat? |
| 20:35.48 | bolt | http://pastebin.com/dsAA0cxp |
| 20:36.07 | derobert_work | bolt: ok, the array is read-only |
| 20:36.21 | derobert_work | bolt: as soon as you make it read-write, it'll start rebuilding |
| 20:36.33 | bolt | ah |
| 20:36.38 | bolt | tries this |
| 20:37.08 | bolt | ooh |
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| 20:37.09 | bolt | rebuilding |
| 20:37.10 | bolt | :D |
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| 20:37.20 | bolt | thanks :) |
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| 20:45.57 | tomatto_ | hello |
| 20:46.13 | tomatto_ | please, do you show me, source.list for debian stable? |
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| 20:46.58 | jordanm | !sources.list |
| 20:46.59 | dpkg | The list of repositories for installing packages is /etc/apt/sources.list and has lines like "deb http://ftp.<cc>.debian.org/debian lenny main" and "deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main" where <cc> is your country code. Be sure to run "aptitude update" after editing sources.list. Also see <mirrors> <apt-spy> <lenny security> <testing security> "man sources.list" and /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
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| 20:48.56 | eshat | tomatto_: so, it should be /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list |
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| 20:52.07 | Nirkus | hey! im guessing queeze does not have all packages to be used as Xen dom0, or does it? i can see a hypervisor package (3.4) and the 2.6.32 has domU support only? |
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| 20:52.32 | Nirkus | s/queeze/squeeze/ |
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| 20:55.48 | Appetite | hm i edited /etc/security/limits.conf and the changes dont seem to have been applied, what do i need to run to reload them? |
| 20:56.05 | phogg | Appetite: log in |
| 20:56.19 | Appetite | phogg: ah, then something is wrong, because they aren't being applied |
| 20:56.34 | phogg | Appetite: what did you change? how are you testing for its effect? |
| 20:56.42 | Appetite | ulimit -a |
| 20:58.39 | jordanm | Appetite: that may not be accurate |
| 20:58.55 | Appetite | jordanm: just plain 'ulimit' is showing me 'unlimited' |
| 20:59.08 | jordanm | Appetite: the way I understood it is that limits.conf sets limit for a user, but ulimit shows the limitation given by the shell |
| 20:59.31 | Appetite | jordanm: so how should i change the values shown in ulimit? |
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| 21:00.02 | bolt | where can I find an explanation of logical volume attributes? like, what does it mean when lvs says my attributes are "-wi-ao" ? |
| 21:00.33 | jordanm | bolt: I seem to recall an LVM administration guide.. |
| 21:00.34 | jordanm | !lvm |
| 21:00.35 | dpkg | it has been said that lvm is the Linux Logical Volume Manager (http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/). Resources: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/, http://dev.riseup.net/grimoire/storage/lvm2/, <lvm_tutorial>, <lvm removedisk>, <lvm movelv>, <install using lvm>, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/410, http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/wiki/ IRC: #lvm on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 21:00.44 | jordanm | bolt: one of those should do |
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| 21:02.15 | jordanm | Appetite: not sure |
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| 21:02.50 | bobby00 | hello everyone. I am trying to set user quotas on a vserver and I am failing what does it mean to "create a wrapper for setquota program". Is that related to xinetd? Any guidance much appreciated. Thanks |
| 21:02.55 | Appetite | jordanm: what is the best way to securely limit the abilities and resource consumption of users? i know jails, but that doesn't really affect resources, just _what_ they can do |
| 21:03.06 | JyZyXEL | how do you control block device names in debian? like /dev/hda |
| 21:03.17 | jordanm | Appetite: ah, did you see the part about individual limits taking priority over group limits? |
| 21:03.41 | Appetite | jordanm: no, but i dont have individual limits defined anywhere i don't believe |
| 21:03.50 | Appetite | i know not in /etc/security/limits.conf .. |
| 21:03.50 | JyZyXEL | i have two ide harddrives and their /dev/hda and /dev/hdc and theres no /dev/hdb |
| 21:04.11 | Appetite | JyZyXEL: is your cd drive IDE and on /dev/hdb? |
| 21:04.14 | JyZyXEL | no |
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| 21:04.25 | Appetite | then /me is out of ideas :) |
| 21:04.26 | JyZyXEL | theres only 2 ide devices |
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| 21:05.06 | JyZyXEL | what system sets the names |
| 21:05.24 | tuvwx | what's wrong with debian-multimedia.org? |
| 21:05.27 | jordanm | Appetite: debian-users is a good place to take more difficult issues |
| 21:05.47 | Appetite | jordanm: hm? |
| 21:05.57 | jordanm | tuvwx: unknown, this mirror is still up: http://debian-multimedia.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/ |
| 21:06.04 | jordanm | Appetite: the mailing list |
| 21:06.13 | Appetite | jordanm: egh. |
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| 21:07.13 | jordanm | Appetite: you say that like debian-user is not awesome :) |
| 21:07.38 | Appetite | jordanm: because i've never used mailing lists. |
| 21:07.58 | bobby00 | maybe someone knows what is a "wrapper" and where to create on? |
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| 21:08.45 | bobby00 | /s/on/one/ |
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| 21:14.27 | Appetite | anyone know whether it is safe to delete the use 'irc'? |
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| 21:19.50 | sc_ | hello, I installed a package that currently shows the packages that can be updated in my system, this is great. However, it wiped out the info I have in motd.tail, and wont display it. How do i display what packages can ne updated, and the motd.tail file? |
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| 21:21.01 | \amethyst | sc_: what package was this? |
| 21:21.04 | sc_ | no idea |
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| 21:21.13 | sc_ | i did apt-get update; apt-get upgrade |
| 21:21.15 | yaaar | howdy |
| 21:21.26 | sc_ | and all of a sudden it started displaying what packages could be updated in my motd |
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| 21:22.13 | \amethyst | sc_: wait, did it wipe motd.tail or just not include it in /etc/motd? |
| 21:22.17 | yaaar | i just had someone ask me to install pdftotext and pdfinfo on my lenny server. i'm amenable to that, but i see from aptitude search that there are apparently two different packages which provide them: poppler-utils and xpdf-utils. any idea which i should use? |
| 21:22.54 | sc_ | i guess it didn't include motd.tail in the motd? |
| 21:23.04 | sc_ | im not even certain how motd.tail is called, so I cannot fix it |
| 21:23.10 | \amethyst | sc_: sounds like this bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=580286 |
| 21:23.40 | sc_ | that it does |
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| 21:25.36 | sc_ | now workaround yet? |
| 21:25.39 | sc_ | no* |
| 21:26.36 | \amethyst | sc_: there is the suggestion in the first message |
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| 21:27.12 | \amethyst | sc_: to create a /etc/update-motd.d/00-header that does uname and then cats motd.tail |
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| 21:27.19 | \amethyst | sc_: assuming you have pam_motd anyway |
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| 21:28.26 | VectorX | hi what is the command to see who is currently logged in |
| 21:28.45 | \amethyst | VectorX: w or who |
| 21:29.43 | VectorX | ty |
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| 21:30.11 | kaeser_ntbk | Mom I don't use firefox because they are betraying the foss movement not allowing me rename the software and the icon. But look rms dancing in this youtube video that I am watching with adobe's flash player. |
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| 21:31.09 | action09 | anyone know why with iceweasel (lenny) and flashplugin-nonfre, from backports, youtube videos are not full screen ? what am i missing (same behavior with flash from stable also..) |
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| 21:32.41 | kaeser_ntbk | full screen is supposed to works |
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| 21:39.05 | amgarchIn9 | Hi, I am trying to build a custom deb. I started with fftw2, upgraded the sources to 2.1.5 but get this after dpkg-buildpackage -b: http://pastebin.com/R6TeUw95 . I am stuck for the moment. Plain ./configure && make works with those sources. Any advice? |
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| 21:41.21 | eikenberry | Another debian-multimedia.org mirror: http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/debian-multimedia |
| 21:41.35 | eikenberry | So everyone isn't using that one german one. |
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| 21:41.51 | abrotman | eikenberry: there's a whole list at the website |
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| 21:42.36 | amgarchIn9 | if I grep for AC_DEFINE I see both uses: with one and three args in configure.in Is this my problem? |
| 21:43.07 | eikenberry | nods. Just only saw that one german site referenced here and on the mailing list. So people wouldn't only use it, as it was handy. |
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| 21:44.39 | nvz | I cant figure out how to make an rdp server work in debian, anyone have any knowledge on the subjecT? |
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| 21:45.16 | gorgonzolla | Hello, I have an ati hd4330 video card. How can I get the proprietary drivers for lenny? |
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| 21:47.06 | funyun | noob here, is there an easy way to install a new version of mkvtoolnix? i've tried aptitude update/upgrade but i still have the same old version from 2 years ago |
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| 21:49.28 | jordanm | ,versions mkvtoolnix |
| 21:49.29 | judd | mkvtoolnix -- etch: 1.8.0-1; lenny: 2.0.2-1.1+b1; sid: 2.7.0-0.2+b2; squeeze: 2.7.0-0.2+b2 |
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| 21:49.41 | jordanm | !tell funyun about ssb |
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| 21:51.10 | jhutchins_lt | amgarchIn9: It could be that you've duplicated a config file somewhere. |
| 21:51.35 | jordanm | nvz: yes, I just installed xrdp and it just worked |
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| 21:52.45 | jordanm | nvz: default configuration.. doesn't work from a windows 7 client AFICT, but I just use it for a thin client that only support RDP |
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| 21:53.01 | gorgonzolla | Hello, I have an ati hd4330 video card. How can I get the proprietary drivers for lenny?I'm a beginner user. |
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| 21:54.37 | comradekingu | gorgonzolla: http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
| 21:55.05 | jordanm | comradekingu: might not be that easy, I don't think the lenny drivers supported that series unfortunately |
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| 21:56.43 | comradekingu | Jordanm: It is that easy, its just that the packaged drivers in lenny are massivly out of date |
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| 21:57.34 | gorgonzolla | comradekingu, thank you very much |
| 21:58.06 | jordanm | comradekingu: specifically... not that easy for him, especially if he needs backport the drivers himself |
| 21:58.12 | jordanm | ,depends fglrx-glx |
| 21:58.13 | judd | fglrx-glx -- depends: libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libxext6, fglrx-driver (= 1:8-12-4). |
| 21:58.22 | jordanm | ,depends fglrx-driver --release sid |
| 21:58.23 | \amethyst | hmm |
| 21:58.24 | judd | fglrx-driver -- depends: debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6~), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libgl1-mesa-glx | libgl1 | fglrx-glx, libx11-6, libxext6, libxinerama1, libxrandr2, libxrender1, xserver-xorg (>= 1:7.5+1), laptop-detect. |
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| 21:59.31 | gorgonzolla | Another thing, how can I purge google chrome? |
| 21:59.50 | gorgonzolla | It seems like it didn't fully installed and I got to purge it and install some aditional libraries. |
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| 22:00.42 | jordanm | gorgonzolla: google-chrome is statically linked, and shouldn't really require additional librarires. you are referring to upstream google-chrome-beta or google-chrome-unstable? |
| 22:01.24 | gorgonzolla | jordanm, google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb |
| 22:01.55 | gorgonzolla | jordanm, Well Jordan I wanted to install it, run dpkg -i packet name but I got an error saying that I am missing some libraries. |
| 22:02.12 | jordanm | gorgonzolla: aptitude install -f |
| 22:02.32 | gorgonzolla | jordanm, when comradekingu gaved me that ati driver I right clicked and chosed open link...and magically it opened with chrome |
| 22:02.51 | gorgonzolla | jordanm, But I can't see it in the applications>internet |
| 22:03.52 | jordanm | gorgonzolla: run aptitude install -f . its common for upstream packages to set depends on --configure so the package gets installed as broken so depends can easily be installed with that command |
| 22:03.54 | gorgonzolla | jordanm, Well aptitude install -f I don't think it will work. I closed the terminal session... |
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| 22:04.34 | jordanm | gorgonzolla: that doesn't matter, read what it does "man aptitude" |
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| 22:05.30 | jordanm | gorgonzolla: use the "/" key to search and "n" to move to next find |
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| 22:09.16 | gorgonzolla | jordanm, Thank you, now it is installed correctly. |
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| 22:13.04 | craigevil | just curious anyone ever seen apt-get show 23 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded., 23 upgraded/ 0 upgraded |
| 22:13.06 | Muffin | Hello! I have installed a custom version of alpine based largely on the debian source. So, I want apt-get upgrade commands to tell me when there is a new version, so that I can update it from source. However, the current version numbers are the same for my package and the normal package, so debian wants to overwrite my custom package with the new version. |
| 22:13.16 | pdg1 | So I was trying to find a good lightweight distribution for a smb server. I knew I liked how Ubuntu worked so I tried going that route. But I'm now thinking that I should just go debian instead of debian based. But I'm having a hard time finding out where I should start. |
| 22:13.36 | Muffin | So, my question is, how do I tell Debian that my version is +1 from the old version, and/or how do I set up a tracker? |
| 22:15.05 | abrotman | pdg1: start to do what ? |
| 22:15.44 | Nirkus | where could one look up why a certain version of e2fsprogs hasnt been accepted into testing yet? the current version seems to depend on the wrong version of libblkid. |
| 22:15.53 | pdg1 | Just where to find info on where to get packages. does apt-get still work? |
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| 22:16.15 | _TheAvatar | craigevil, looks fine to me? |
| 22:16.24 | LetoPoole | Nirkus: package qa testing why <package> on google will get you to the page |
| 22:16.29 | pdg1 | Advice... should I go with samba or try something else |
| 22:16.32 | _TheAvatar | it upgraded 23 packages, 0 new packages, 0 was removed and 0 failed/was not upgraded |
| 22:16.50 | craigevil | _TheAvatar: usually when there are upgrades it doesnt show the 0 upgraded at the end |
| 22:17.03 | LetoPoole | Nirkus: sorrt, add debian to that line :) |
| 22:17.35 | _TheAvatar | 40 upgraded, 6 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded. |
| 22:17.50 | Nirkus | LetoPoole: thx :) |
| 22:17.54 | _TheAvatar | looks.... fine?! |
| 22:18.08 | LetoPoole | Nirkus: pleasure |
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| 22:18.45 | craigevil | _TheAvatar: right but mine doesnt show "not upgraded" it shows 23 upgraded and 0 upgraded, they listed packages upgraded just fine |
| 22:18.46 | bobby00 | hey all, does anyone know what a "wrapper" and where to set it on debian? |
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| 22:19.16 | edju | Using squeeze & kde 4.4- I have a .kde dir - should there be a .kde4 dir? |
| 22:19.20 | bobby00 | i meant, what a wrapper is.. |
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| 22:20.06 | abrotman | pdg1: probably use aptitude, and yes, you can install samba, and then read the docs |
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| 22:20.20 | _TheAvatar | craigevil, according to your paste, it shows like mine (except 0 was set to not upgraded different from 4 at me) |
| 22:20.25 | _TheAvatar | and it says 0 not upgraded, not 0 upgraded |
| 22:20.35 | _TheAvatar | and it says "0 not upgraded", not "0 upgraded" |
| 22:21.23 | craigevil | _TheAvatar: doh its been a long day, nvm |
| 22:22.08 | _TheAvatar | hah :P |
| 22:22.14 | _TheAvatar | that's why your statement was quite confusing to me :D |
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| 22:24.27 | jhutchins_lt | bobby00: Sorry, never encountered that sense of terminology before. There are "TCPIP Wrappers", but that's xinetd, something different. Perhaps they want you to make a shell script that launches the program? It's more of a VPN specific problem. Whatever program suggested it is where you need to search for answers. |
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| 22:24.47 | Nirkus | would someone point me to docs on pulling single packages from unstable into testing? :) |
| 22:24.56 | r0nin | what does aptitude do differently then apt, never used aptitude really |
| 22:25.04 | r0nin | there a good reason to use it other then ap-get? |
| 22:25.07 | r0nin | apt* |
| 22:26.04 | bobby00 | jhutchins_lt: thanks for the reply, i was following a manual for vservers setting user quotas. And it required to add certain shell code into a "wrapper" for setquota program. I am just lost here :) |
| 22:26.15 | LetoPoole | Nirkus: search for apt pinning |
| 22:26.30 | LetoPoole | Nirkus: man apt_preferences |
| 22:27.03 | LetoPoole | Nirkus: you can control a mixed system with that, there is also a long howto about that in the forums |
| 22:27.52 | craigevil | !tell Nirkus about tum |
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| 22:28.53 | LetoPoole | craigevil: how can I know all the !tell available? |
| 22:28.59 | Nirkus | LetoPoole: thanks again |
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| 22:29.10 | LetoPoole | Nirkus: repleasure |
| 22:29.15 | Nirkus | :) |
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| 22:30.08 | Nirkus | and thanks to craigevil, of course :) |
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| 22:37.04 | abrotman | !why aptitude |
| 22:37.05 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). |
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| 22:37.54 | karsten | Is there a way of conveniently restricting the maximum size of an rsync job? We're running out of system memory on a system with ~1.4 million files, pre-3.0 rsync. |
| 22:37.56 | r0nin | pffft |
| 22:37.58 | r0nin | haha |
| 22:38.01 | karsten | We'd actually prefer not running jobs that big. |
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| 22:38.29 | r0nin | maybe ill use aptitude more |
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| 22:40.26 | abrotman | karsten: do it more often? :) |
| 22:40.26 | Appetite | ,file /usr/bin/gcc |
| 22:40.29 | judd | /usr/bin/gcc in lenny/i386: pentium-builder: usr/bin/gcc; gcc: usr/bin/gcc |
| 22:40.39 | abrotman | karsten: can't you do subdirs? |
| 22:40.46 | Appetite | anyone know default permissions for gcc/g++ ? |
| 22:41.16 | karsten | abrotman: it's part of an internal web app. |
| 22:41.28 | karsten | abrotman: And some of the trees are fairly large. |
| 22:41.34 | karsten | Appetite: ??? |
| 22:41.49 | Appetite | karsten: what do u mean ??? |
| 22:41.54 | Appetite | it's a simple question |
| 22:42.01 | karsten | Appetite: That's what I'm asking you. |
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| 22:42.20 | Appetite | karsten: you've throroughly confused me. |
| 22:42.28 | karsten | Appetite: You're askign for default perms on the executables /usr/bin/gcc /usr/bin/g++ ? |
| 22:42.35 | Appetite | yes |
| 22:42.40 | karsten | Appetite: Your quesiton wasn't clear. |
| 22:42.51 | Appetite | hm i see, you cul have specifi dthat p |
| 22:42.52 | Appetite | could* |
| 22:42.58 | Appetite | sorry, tho. what are they, if you know? |
| 22:43.03 | karsten | Appetite: Same as most of bin: 755. |
| 22:43.12 | Appetite | alright, thanks |
| 22:43.21 | karsten | Appetite: The "files" gcc and g++ are symlinks, however, which won't have meaningful perms. |
| 22:43.32 | Appetite | hm ok |
| 22:43.51 | karsten | Appetite: They'll point to /usr/bin/gcc-4.3 /usr/bin/g++-4.3, or something like that. |
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| 22:44.02 | karsten | Appetite: ls -l $( which gcc; which g++ ) |
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| 22:44.19 | Appetite | karsten: i didnt do that for a reason |
| 22:44.26 | Appetite | karsten: i changed the permissions and i was wondering the defaults |
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| 22:44.44 | abrotman | karsten: i thought i remembered a way to have it start transferring immediately isntead of comparing the whole tree |
| 22:44.57 | karsten | abrotman: Yeah. Upgrade to 3.0+ |
| 22:45.02 | karsten | abrotman: It's *VERY* nice. |
| 22:45.08 | karsten | abrotman: I'm thinking a ulimit quash on it. |
| 22:46.24 | WizardNumberNext | Hello |
| 22:46.27 | pdg1 | Okay... running into more problems. seems like nothing wants to install on my hard drive... any way to check the integrity of the hdd? |
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| 22:46.49 | karsten | pdg1: What error(s) are you getting? |
| 22:47.06 | karsten | pdg1: ... and how are you attempting to install whatever you're installing? |
| 22:47.34 | karsten | pdg1: best simple tests: cat /prpc/mounts for current mount state. look at /var/log/messages (or dmesg) for any drive-related errors. |
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| 22:47.54 | karsten | pdg1: Try creating a file on the filesystem somewhere (touch /usr/bin/foo). |
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| 22:48.07 | karsten | pdg1: Should give you an idea of what's going on. |
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| 22:49.44 | pdg1 | Hmm... I'm using crunchbang live cd right now and I didn't see any errors while it was booting. Good sign? |
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| 22:50.05 | karsten | pdg1: Thanks for not answering my questions. |
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| 22:50.27 | karsten | pdg1: No, that's not particularly useful. |
| 22:51.04 | pdg1 | Yeah... I know... I ask a question and don't give yyou any answes. I'm typing on an Android phone. Not the easiest thing to respond with :p |
| 22:51.44 | karsten | pdg1: What system are you trying to install on? Android or other? |
| 22:52.04 | pdg1 | other |
| 22:52.24 | karsten | pdg1: ... and if it's "other", I'd strongly suggest you find something otther than your 'Droid to chat on IRC, 'coz I'm going to get really bored an move on RSN. |
| 22:52.32 | karsten | pdg1: ... so that's your problem, not mine. |
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| 22:52.55 | pdg1 | Yeah... nevermind then,ill figure it out. |
| 22:52.59 | WizardNumberNext | Hello |
| 22:53.09 | karsten | !tell WizardNumberNext about ask |
| 22:53.42 | Muffin | ...is there a way I can tell the dpkg system that the version of an installed package is in fact something other than what it currently thinks it is? |
| 22:53.53 | Muffin | I want to lie about the version of alpine I have installed. It thinks -6, but I want it to think -7. |
| 22:53.58 | abrotman | probably not a great plan |
| 22:54.41 | Muffin | abrotman: Was that at me? I assure you, it is a good plan. |
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| 22:56.37 | WizardNumberNext | Actually, I think I'll be better answering. I using debian for 5 years |
| 22:57.03 | diago1 | Hello, I'm trying to understand how to create a storage pool using iet iscsi for libvirt. |
| 22:57.58 | diago1 | Do you export each guest disk as a lun to libvirt? |
| 22:58.24 | diago1 | Is there a way to just have the iscsi target show up and make disks when you need them from libvirt? |
| 22:59.08 | WizardNumberNext | Anybody with nice question requiring hard thinking |
| 22:59.14 | WizardNumberNext | ? |
| 22:59.19 | abrotman | Muffin: you can try to alter the /var/lib/dpkg/status ... make a backup first |
| 22:59.25 | abrotman | WizardNumberNext: just be patient |
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| 23:02.16 | Muffin | abrotman: It worked. Thanks! |
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| 23:02.48 | Muffin | abrotman: I have a custom built-from-source version of alpine. When the testing version comes out, I want my version to be overwritten to remind me to rebuild it from source in my special way. |
| 23:02.56 | Muffin | "special way" == "add maildir support, dammit" |
| 23:03.47 | diago1 | So WizardNumberNext, it is a hard question for me |
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| 23:04.36 | abrotman | Muffin: i thought that patch had beeen added already |
| 23:05.00 | Muffin | abrotman: The testing version does not handle maildir. |
| 23:05.09 | Muffin | abrotman: And patching the source succeeds. |
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| 23:05.18 | Muffin | And the patched-then-compiled version handles maildir fine. |
| 23:05.24 | abrotman | Muffin: i thought the patch had been added awhile ago .. or maybe i'm thinking of imap |
| 23:05.49 | Muffin | abrotman: Chances are you are not thinking of alpine. The author of alpine is INSANELY PRINCIPLED when it comes to imap purity so he won't let his software do maildir because it is impure. |
| 23:06.12 | abrotman | Muffin: no, i am thinking of alpine, i've been using pine for over 10 years |
| 23:06.16 | Muffin | abrotman: So the package maintainer doesn't want to add third-party patches to the code for all platforms. It's annoying. There's no good way to specify that you want alpine-maildir instead of alpine. |
| 23:06.28 | abrotman | just not alpine, but i've been talking about it with someone else |
| 23:06.38 | Muffin | Oh. OK. |
| 23:06.47 | Muffin | Yeah, I made the upgrade from pine to alpine about three months ago. |
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| 23:29.34 | krunk- | I currently have sysklogd as my system log daemon. Are there any compelling reasons ot move to something like syslog-ng |
| 23:30.09 | krunk- | or, better yet (since I don't think webmin has a sysklogd module) are there any gotchas if I do migrate? potential breakage? |
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| 23:31.11 | Tramp | krunk-: rsyslog is the default in lenny, iirc |
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| 23:32.20 | krunk- | interesting, I don't think I changed this. I wonder if the VPS image I was provided was modified |
| 23:32.26 | Tramp | krunk-: and webmin is not in Debian, so I may miss the point of the question |
| 23:33.04 | krunk- | there's a deb for it. I'm getting the log monitoring/bandwidth modules for it going |
| 23:33.57 | dsfwea23 | I'm looking to try out debian, the download page for current shows tons of cd images. I would guess that the highest CD-XX number would be the one to choose. However, 30 is 648M and 31 is only 39M. Which one do I pick? |
| 23:34.00 | krunk- | if rsyslog is the default, I'll see about moving to that. I prefer to stay with defaults when possible |
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| 23:35.52 | dsfwea23 | also, the dates are all Jan 31st... so are the higher numbers really newer? |
| 23:35.52 | Cain | !tell dsfwea23 about netinst |
| 23:36.11 | Riviera | dsfwea23: no, they all belong to the same set. |
| 23:36.51 | dsfwea23 | well I'm trying to keep my cap in check, if I can use a local mirror it doesn't count. :) |
| 23:37.47 | dsfwea23 | plus it would download at 1.2-1.5MB/s vs 150KB/s |
| 23:37.55 | krunk- | so it shoudl be fine to: cp /etc/syslog.conf /etc/rsyslog.conf && apt-get purge sysklogd && apt-get install rsyslog |
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| 23:38.48 | dsfwea23 | so is there a single iso for a off-line install? |
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| 23:39.25 | dondelelcaro | dsfwea23: the first cd or the first dvd will work |
| 23:39.28 | abrotman | dsfwea23: you can get CD1 or DVD1 |
| 23:39.40 | abrotman | the netinst will work, but won't give you much |
| 23:40.12 | Tramp | krunk-: I'd (1) backup the existing syslog.conf (2) aptitude install rsyslog - thereby letting the package handle the upgrade and aptitude handle the dependencies |
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| 23:40.34 | Tramp | krunk-: then I'd compare the backup of the syslog.conf with whatever the package did |
| 23:40.56 | dsfwea23 | so all those other CD images are just additional software? |
| 23:41.57 | krunk- | Tramp: yeah,I use etckeeper |
| 23:45.19 | abrotman | !tell dsfwea23 about cd contents |
| 23:46.12 | dsfwea23 | [The following is currently broken as of 2010-06-07] ? |
| 23:46.47 | abrotman | you can still use the jigdo templates |
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| 23:51.03 | dominet | hello folks |
| 23:51.15 | dominet | which is a better choice for SMTP? postfix or exim4? |
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| 23:52.16 | koollman | dominet: if you don't have a lot of traffic, both are fine. if you receive a lot of mail, postfix tends to perform better |
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| 23:53.38 | Agrajag- | g'day, i have an old testing box that has kernel 2.6.17 on it. i'm trying to upgrade it, however the kernel refuses to upgrade because it needs a newer libc and libc refuses to upgrade (preinst check fails) because it needs a newer kernel (it says at least 2.6.18). what can i do? |
| 23:53.52 | dominet | koollman: many thanks, i chose postifx and i hope it's safe to use? |
| 23:54.06 | dominet | i mean no known exploits of the service and such |
| 23:54.15 | koollman | dominet: of course. |
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| 23:54.32 | dominet | thanks so much again |
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| 23:55.37 | dominet | can i also use postfix to send mail? |
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| 23:56.24 | dondelelcaro | dominet: yes |
| 23:57.21 | dondelelcaro | you'd have to be running a gigantic site where the performance of the MTA is actually a concern |
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| 23:58.22 | dominet | dondelelcaro i'm expecting to send around 100-200 emails per day and receive 50 perhaps |
| 23:59.29 | dondelelcaro | you could do that on a toaster. |
