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| 00:03.25 | abrotman | looks at his toaster |
| 00:03.59 | tharkun | Watch it you might see your reflection! |
| 00:04.19 | dominet | lol abrotman |
| 00:04.35 | dominet | ok can you tell me how to send that first mail using my own MTA? |
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| 00:04.43 | dominet | shell of course |
| 00:04.47 | tharkun | mutt |
| 00:04.49 | Agrajag- | is there a way to force the libc6 kernel check? i just want to upgrade both the kernel and libc and can reboot straight away |
| 00:04.59 | dominet | tharkun is there anything i could script? |
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| 00:05.10 | dominet | i need to get data from mysql and mail them |
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| 00:07.32 | dominet | mutt said... mail sent... |
| 00:07.37 | dominet | runs |
| 00:08.05 | dominet | woah. |
| 00:08.55 | WormFood | what the hell happened to http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ ? |
| 00:09.26 | tharkun | looks into his pocket and can't find it |
| 00:09.46 | dominet | tharkun: what script? |
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| 00:10.14 | tharkun | one using mutt to send mails from a script |
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| 00:13.31 | tharkun | dondelelcaro: Well if you have limited resources like on a toaster, you might see some differences between postfix and exim4 :) |
| 00:13.58 | WormFood | does anyone know what happened to http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ and when it is expected to be back online? |
| 00:14.12 | abrotman | it is online |
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| 00:15.56 | WormFood | there is nothing there |
| 00:16.01 | abrotman | sure there's lots of stuff there |
| 00:16.06 | WormFood | right now? |
| 00:16.10 | abrotman | what are you looking for .. seems fine to me |
| 00:16.20 | noo | hello I just installed debian squeeze on my Asus 1000h netbook with the minimal installation. I was following the instructions from this page: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/InstallUsingStandardInstaller ("Squeeze installation using Unetbootin to do a full installation") Now I somehow fail at the last point cause I can't install gnome like this cause it somehow doesnt find the package gnome-desktop-enviroment and if I try to |
| 00:16.20 | noo | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:16.21 | noo | st time I'm "using" debian |
| 00:16.27 | WormFood | I'm looking for packages to isntall |
| 00:16.30 | noo | can anybody help me? |
| 00:17.08 | abrotman | WormFood: for which version of debian ? |
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| 00:17.14 | WormFood | squeeze |
| 00:17.42 | themill | the pool structure on dmm is empty atm. |
| 00:17.55 | WormFood | yes, that is what it appears |
| 00:18.17 | abrotman | or use a mirror |
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| 00:18.38 | WormFood | I didn't realize there are mirrors for dmm |
| 00:18.52 | themill | WormFood: many... and dmm has been asking you to use them for some years. |
| 00:19.04 | nat2610_ | which package in debian contain the common certificates for ssl ? (in /etc/ssl/certs) |
| 00:19.09 | themill | WormFood: http://web.archive.org/web/20080701143823/www.debian-multimedia.org/debian-m.php |
| 00:19.33 | WormFood | heh...great archive.org is blocked in china |
| 00:19.36 | WormFood | fires up the vpn |
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| 00:31.12 | craigevil | WormFood: DMM list of mirrors using Google cache http://tinyurl.com/3aoalbl |
| 00:31.44 | WormFood | thanks craigevil, but I have it under control....also google cache is blocked in China too :P |
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| 00:35.31 | snover | Iâm writing an init.d script for spawn-fcgi that uses start-stop-daemon; spawn-cgi forks two processes, puts their PIDS in the PIDFILE (one per line). When I try to use start-stop-daemon --stop, it only stops the first PID in the PIDFILE. How can I get start-stop-daemon to stop both processes? I have tried searching Google for things like âstart-stop-daemon multiple pidâ and have not found anything even mentioning this issue. |
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| 00:38.48 | noo | isn't there anybody how can give me at least a hint? |
| 00:38.49 | HouseofLords | Crap, I am. |
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| 00:41.09 | dasunt | Weird. |
| 00:41.12 | dasunt | This system hates sound. |
| 00:41.30 | dasunt | Right now, it wants to repeat the first 500 ms or so of any sound I give it. |
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| 00:41.54 | dasunt | Using aplay. |
| 00:42.30 | dasunt | Also complains about the mixer not being there. |
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| 00:46.31 | ornia | If I am using a module in the kernel that is NOT compiled into the kernel image (just a module) but I need to patch it, do I HAVE to recompile the entire kernel? |
| 00:46.43 | ornia | Or can I just recompile the module itself after patching it? |
| 00:47.51 | Tramp | noo: there is #debian-eeepc on irc.oftc.net - maybe they can help |
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| 00:49.59 | Vorg | Last night I built a new kernel using make-kpkg as I've done. But this time it added initrd even though I don't have it selected in menuconfig and don't use --initrd with make-kpkg. Using debian Squeeze. |
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| 00:52.25 | ornia | Vorg: Did you get your kernel source from the binary linux-source package or from the source package of your current kernel version? |
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| 00:52.51 | Vorg | ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ |
| 00:53.03 | Vorg | where I always get it |
| 00:53.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | noo, you got any network on that machine? |
| 00:53.28 | Vorg | this is v2.6.34 |
| 00:54.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | what? |
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| 00:55.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | you can't use make-kpgk on plain kernel tgzs that weren't packaged for debain |
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| 00:55.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, kernels |
| 00:55.46 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.34-1-686 (2.6.34-1~experimental.2); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); squeeze: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.4-686 (2.6.32-11~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-22lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 00:55.50 | Vorg | ornia: Only thing I can think of, is I've done an apt-get update/upgrade since last time I did a build and maybe a conf was changed to default to add initrd. But I don't know |
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| 00:56.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | anyway, there's 2.6.34 in experimental |
| 00:57.14 | Vorg | CutMeOwnThroat: been doing it this way for years. |
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| 01:00.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | I haven't done that in a long time, but.... I still think you're making this up |
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| 01:01.53 | Vorg | exact line I used and the way i've been doing it: fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version=.20100608.2 kernel_image |
| 01:01.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, perhaps that does work - seems the source package in experimental doesn't really contain anything but the tar.bz2 |
| 01:02.21 | Vorg | and to install: sudo dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.34.20100608.1_2.6.34.20100608.2-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb |
| 01:02.41 | Vorg | the ftp site has bz2 and tgz |
| 01:02.58 | jpinx-eeepc | Vorg: why make it so difficult when aptituded will do it all for you |
| 01:02.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | I'm talking about the linux-source package |
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| 01:03.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | Vorg, any reason you're not taking the kernel from experimental, though? |
| 01:03.14 | Vorg | Because I custom build the kernel for my setup |
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| 01:03.35 | Vorg | It's the way I learned to set up this system. Its mainly to run VDR |
| 01:03.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | that's not a reason... only a circular one |
| 01:04.28 | Vorg | The prebuilt kernels have extra stuff not needed and the raid and other fs stuff is modules. If you build it in, you don't need initrd. If you use modules you do |
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| 01:04.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, I'm baffled - the linux-source packages really just contain linux-source-2.6.XX.tar.bz2 |
| 01:04.47 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, I think the patches and stuff are in a separate package now |
| 01:05.25 | Vorg | I did 2.6.33.9 without problems after I switched from lenny to squeeze |
| 01:06.03 | Vorg | but the last update/upgrade changed gcc from 4.1 to 4.4 so I need to rebuild the kernel anyway. figured get a newer version |
| 01:06.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | seems a lot of things changed since I last wanted to compile a kernel :) |
| 01:06.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, I'm glad I'm not building any |
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| 01:07.22 | Juance | Hello! |
| 01:07.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | olleH¡ |
| 01:07.22 | Vorg | So I still don't know why, this build, it added initrd even though its not even built into the kernel |
| 01:08.08 | Vorg | google brings up lots of stuff on how to make an initrd if you need one or make it auto create one. but not how to make it skip it |
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| 01:09.23 | Juance | What scripts are executed when the system shutdown? |
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| 01:10.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | make-kpkg doesn't built initrd if there is no --initrd option |
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| 01:11.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | if it does, check the bts |
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| 01:11.19 | Vorg | not suposed to, but it does now. that's my problem |
| 01:11.22 | Vorg | what is bts? |
| 01:11.29 | Juance | anyone?? |
| 01:11.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | !bts |
| 01:11.34 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. Useful for unstable and testing: aptitude install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
| 01:12.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | Juance, echo /etc/rc3.d/K* |
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| 01:13.18 | Juance | CutMeOwnThroat, Why rc3.d, not is rc6.d? |
| 01:13.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, that's on leaving runlevel 3... which you do on shutdown |
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| 01:15.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | right... 6 for reboot, 0 for halt |
| 01:15.28 | Juance | CutMeOwnThroat, yes yes |
| 01:17.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | and seems like all of them are executed... there's some that are started... |
| 01:17.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, guess those make sense |
| 01:18.31 | Juance | CutMeOwnThroat, Why It may be that the system did not remove the directory / var?? |
| 01:18.47 | Juance | at the shutdown... |
| 01:18.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | what? |
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| 01:20.38 | Juance | when i shutdown the system, /var not umount (sorry for my english) |
| 01:20.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | how do you know? |
| 01:22.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | I mean if you shut down, it's off - how would you know it's not unmounted |
| 01:22.37 | Juance | CutMeOwnThroat, Because fsck always show problems |
| 01:22.53 | Juance | about /var device, |
| 01:23.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | so from the top, you have a separate /var |
| 01:23.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | and it's what filesystem? |
| 01:23.41 | Juance | yes |
| 01:23.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | say it like this, what does grep /var /etc/fstab say |
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| 01:25.15 | Juance | CutMeOwnThroat, /dev/hda7 /var reiserfs defaults 0 2 |
| 01:26.08 | Juance | CutMeOwnThroat, the problem appeared after trying bootchart, |
| 01:26.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | ok, reiserfs... that's a journaling filesystem and it shouldn't / can't run fsck automatically |
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| 01:27.30 | sshc | Hi. Where can I download the livecd for Debian oldstable with KDE? |
| 01:27.40 | Juance | CutMeOwnThroat, why? |
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| 01:27.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | sshc, I don't think there is one... |
| 01:27.57 | qiyong | sh -c "( hostname; pwd )" is this right? |
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| 01:28.08 | jpinx-eeepc | sshc: maybe archives.debian.org |
| 01:28.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | jpinx-eeepc, there were no official debian live cds for etch... (i might be wrong, but I don't think so) |
| 01:28.43 | Juance | CutMeOwnThroat, if i do telinit 1, and then umount /var, and reboot... the system restart ok, |
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| 01:28.58 | sshc | Specifically, I just want Etch, which happens to be oldstable |
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| 01:29.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | !debian life |
| 01:29.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | errr |
| 01:29.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | !debian live |
| 01:29.11 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. As of squeeze, the images can be installed with d-i. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/FAQ http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.oftc.net. |
| 01:29.13 | ScottG | I am having problems getting a printer set up. Here is some dmesg output: http://privatepaste.com/bb2bdd6483 |
| 01:29.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | dutchfishism! |
| 01:29.25 | sshc | Actually, Lenny might be fine too |
| 01:29.31 | sshc | Not anything more recent |
| 01:29.41 | Juance | i dont understand this, it is as if something had been misconfigured and that can not be |
| 01:29.42 | ScottG | I get a notification box every so often saying that: Printer '_5000_Series' may not be connected |
| 01:30.24 | jpinx-eeepc | sshc: you can make your own live image |
| 01:31.02 | sshc | jpinx-eeepc: Without already having (the correct version of) Debian installed? |
| 01:31.54 | sshc | Which file in http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/i386/net/ should I download to find the .iso? |
| 01:31.59 | Juance | CutMeOwnThroat, What do you think? |
| 01:32.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | Juance, you should backup your data, boot into single user mode and run reiserfsck on the partition... reiserfsck --check to see if there are any problems, possibly --fix-fixable or even --rebuild-tree if problems are detected (might be easier to create a new filesystem and play the backup back in) |
| 01:32.48 | sshc | Does http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/i386/net/debian-live-504-i386-kde-desktop-net.tar.gz contain the .iso? |
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| 01:33.16 | sshc | downloads |
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| 01:34.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | WHAT, reiserfs is not supported anymore from squeeze on? what's "supported" mean? |
| 01:34.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, that's just the installer... that's all right |
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| 01:34.59 | Juance | CutMeOwnThroat, ok, thank you very much, |
| 01:35.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | Juance, I have to look it up, but I'd think that journaling filesystems should have an fstab entry that ends with "0 0" |
| 01:36.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | Juance, the journal is replayed when you try to mount the fs after a crash, it doesn't usually call fsck at all |
| 01:37.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | Juance, yours ends in "0 2" which means that that's a drive to be checked - but why reiserfsck should be called I don't know... |
| 01:37.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | how do you shut down normally? |
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| 01:39.40 | Juance | CutMeOwnThroat, before installing bootchart, with the same configuration, the system shutdown well.. |
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| 01:40.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah, all right - did you look in the bts? |
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| 01:40.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | (what I said above is still true independent of that - as a journaling filesystem it shouldn't call fsck, but replay the journal) |
| 01:42.05 | Cain | CutMeOwnThroat : so for reiserfs 0 0 should be as the last values in fstab (because i have 0 2 too... for 3 partitions) |
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| 01:42.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | I'm trying to look that up - I have 0 0 |
| 01:42.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | but this was all set up such a long time ago... |
| 01:42.37 | Juance | CutMeOwnThroat, but it does when it starts, is the configuration of the installation, |
| 01:42.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | Cain, but yes, I think so |
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| 01:44.33 | Juance | CutMeOwnThroat, I will try putting "0 0", but I will follow without understanding the reason for the break |
| 01:44.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | let me google that first |
| 01:45.08 | Juance | CutMeOwnThroat, ok, |
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| 01:49.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, this is from 2000 http://www.mail-archive.com/expert@linux-mandrake.com/msg28253.html |
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| 01:49.55 | ScottG | I am having problems getting a printer set up. Here is some dmesg output: http://privatepaste.com/bb2bdd6483 |
| 01:50.05 | ScottG | I get a notification box every so often saying that: Printer '_5000_Series' may not be connected |
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| 01:52.39 | Juance | CutMeOwnThroat, then, the solution is "0 0", but I have one question, as I know if the device has no errors? |
| 01:53.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, that's not the solution... seems you should disable it for normal use because it's not needed... but when you say the checks only started when you started using bootchart, you should probably file a bug against it.. |
| 01:54.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | I don't see anything related to this, though: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?ordering=normal;archive=0;src=bootchart;dist=unstable;repeatmerged=0 |
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| 01:55.11 | sshc | Agh, it didn't contain a CD image |
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| 01:55.20 | sshc | Which version of Debian is debian-live-60alpha1-i386-kde-desktop.iso? |
| 01:55.37 | sshc | I found that lying sowhere in my filesystem |
| 01:55.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | then you probably made it... |
| 01:55.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | so only you can know |
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| 01:57.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | Juance, /etc/init.d/umountfs does the unmounting for you |
| 01:58.47 | qq- | sshc, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/i386/iso-cd/debian-live-504-i386-kde-desktop.iso |
| 01:58.49 | Juance | Should, but does not seem to do, |
| 01:58.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | except for /, which is unmounted by umountroot |
| 01:58.58 | Juance | CutMeOwnThroat, yes.. |
| 01:59.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, it would fail when the drive is still in use, I guess |
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| 02:01.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | perhaps this boot optimizing changed shutdown-order and now the drive is still in use by something that wasn't killed |
| 02:01.08 | sshc | qq-: Thanks! |
| 02:01.15 | qq- | sshc, -live-60alpha1 is squeeze |
| 02:01.24 | Juance | CutMeOwnThroat, this should be enabled in the rc3.d??? or rc0 and 6??? |
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| 02:01.46 | qq- | sshc, np |
| 02:02.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's in my rc0 and rc6 |
| 02:02.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Nov 22 2007 rc0.d/S40umountfs -> ../init.d/umountfs |
| 02:02.36 | jhutchins | It's potentially useful to look at how the RH tree deals with runlevels. |
| 02:05.50 | Juance | CutMeOwnThroat, I will try if this the problem after eat :), newly, thanks for you help! :) |
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| 02:24.15 | leafwiz | anyone here with mobile ip experience ? |
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| 02:25.57 | liable | whats the real question? |
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| 02:26.36 | abrotman | sounds like dialup! |
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| 02:27.26 | jpinx-eeepc | !anyone |
| 02:27.26 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 02:27.34 | jpinx-eeepc | leafwiz: ââ |
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| 02:28.25 | Owner | Hello friends, is there some bootable sys CD to mount bootable .iso sourcxe file from HDD? |
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| 02:29.20 | nsadmin | Owner, not sure what you're after. you can do it in debian by using mount -o loop <file> <mount point dir> |
| 02:29.21 | liable | you can use any live cd for that, or even the debian installer |
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| 02:29.32 | vader-- | anyone familiar with atd? |
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| 02:29.48 | nsadmin | !ask |
| 02:29.48 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 02:32.05 | leafwiz | I am looking for a mobile ip client |
| 02:32.23 | liable | what exactly do you mean by that? |
| 02:32.36 | nsadmin | leafwiz: ok |
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| 02:33.51 | leafwiz | The ones I find are outdated. Mobile IP is a rfc standard, I wonder if it's implemented in debian / linux. Since I only find old clients that does not work. |
| 02:34.10 | liable | outdated?? |
| 02:34.28 | nsadmin | "does not work" does not work |
| 02:34.32 | liable | what the hell are you talking about? |
| 02:34.34 | nsadmin | because there is no information |
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| 02:35.23 | karsten | vader--: Come over to the light side. And ask your question. |
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| 02:36.32 | jpinx-eeepc | !doesn't work |
| 02:36.32 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
| 02:37.17 | nsadmin | leafwiz: the comments you're making are pretty general, for example when you say mobile IP client and that you have tried a few, you don't list them so it's impossible to make any comparison (so far) |
| 02:38.08 | liable | assumes he's talking about pppd |
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| 02:38.56 | leafwiz | Mobile IP at NUS (link broken, cant find) Mosquitonet Mobile IP(link broken, cant find), Dynamics - HUT Mobile IP (Compiles, but is made for 2.1 2.2 , 2.4 ) |
| 02:39.20 | liable | bangs head on desk |
| 02:39.52 | liable | leafwiz: whats your native language? |
| 02:40.24 | nsadmin | being general isn't good or bad by itself... but in the case of your comments here it's assumed you want to achieve some result, and without specifics (1) we don't know what you're asking and (2) not totally sure what the eventual result you want |
| 02:41.03 | orzo | autofs can have the system unmount usb drives you are no longer using, but is there a good way to automount the drives as read-only and gracefully recover when the user pulls the drive no matter what (even if still within a second of access) ? |
| 02:41.24 | nsadmin | 2.1 2.2 2.4 <-- what are these versions of?\ |
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| 02:42.09 | leafwiz | http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3344 , Mobile ip makes a tunnel from the host computer. Aka the mobile node to a home agent. So you can have seamless connectivity while moving between different subnets (you keep your ip). I need the client software to manage and create the tunnel . |
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| 02:43.48 | leafwiz | Since all the client implementation I find about Mobile IP for linux is old, I wonder if maybe Mobile IP is implemented in the kernel / the ip-stack. |
| 02:44.13 | Owner | Please for guy, who inform me about the debian solution to mount ISO source file from HDD to boot a OS... thanx |
| 02:44.44 | Owner | chatzilla crash me |
| 02:44.53 | abrotman | do you need it again ? |
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| 02:45.25 | orzo | really mounting/unmounting is the wrong behavior, i'd prefer the system stay mounted read-only as long as the device is plugged and only switch to read-write when i want to write and then go back to read-only after a time out, never fully unmounting until after the device is pulled |
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| 02:48.13 | jamesbrink | can anyone help me with a simple linux script.... im doing an mysql query and i want to return the results to matching strings... i though i could do mysql query|COLUMN1=$1 COLUMN2=$2 and so on |
| 02:48.15 | pyther24 | Hi |
| 02:48.21 | jamesbrink | i will always be returning one row |
| 02:48.22 | pyther24 | How long is the debian stable life span? |
| 02:48.30 | jamesbrink | just kinda lost on assiging the variables |
| 02:49.09 | nsadmin | perhaps you might receive one, perhaps zero with such a query... you should be prepared for both possibilities |
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| 02:49.36 | jamesbrink | true |
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| 02:51.46 | nsadmin | my particular situation is postgres and aolserver using tcl, and an api on top... one cmd is "db_0or1row" which either sets or does not set tcl vars... checking for their existance, I know if the row came in or not |
| 02:52.04 | nsadmin | see if you can find something similar |
| 02:52.59 | karlpinc | pyther24: There's info on debian.org. Basically 1 year+ beyond when the next version goes stable. |
| 02:53.03 | abrotman | jamesbrink: you might do better asking #mysql |
| 02:53.03 | nsadmin | maybe instead of bash, you could use tcl. perl. python, scheme or one of the other 700 or so scripting languages out there that could do it |
| 02:53.12 | pyther24 | karlpinc: ok thanks |
| 02:53.22 | Tramp | jamesbrink: one solution would be: read -r col1 col2 < <(mysql query) - or result=$(mysql query); then check result and use the "read" to split result |
| 02:53.28 | abrotman | pyther24: really, no one knows since no one knows when the next version of stable will happen |
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| 02:53.48 | karlpinc | !tell pyther24 about debian releases |
| 02:53.56 | nsadmin | "could do it" usually means there's a db driver and language bindings for the additional commands |
| 02:54.03 | jordanm | abrotman: 2010-12-15 |
| 02:54.04 | pyther24 | Can I assume that debian has a saner gui than ubuntu? |
| 02:54.17 | abrotman | jordanm: you keep thinking that |
| 02:54.23 | abrotman | pyther24: it has many to choose from |
| 02:54.40 | nsadmin | pyther24, sane is subjective |
| 02:54.43 | Bushmills | "a" as in "one"? yes, likely |
| 02:54.55 | Bushmills | try them all out :) |
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| 02:55.28 | pyther24 | how can a search specifically by pkg name using apt? |
| 02:55.40 | nsadmin | sane is primarily based on psychological statistics... |
| 02:55.42 | abrotman | pyther24: aptitude search foo |
| 02:55.47 | abrotman | or apt-cache --names-only search foo |
| 02:55.52 | Bushmills | if you know package name, what do you want to search for? |
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| 02:56.55 | jamesbrink | thanks Tramp |
| 02:57.11 | Tramp | yw |
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| 02:58.19 | pyther24 | Does debian have a normal gnome interface (default) |
| 02:58.51 | Bushmills | gnome is one of the desktop environments which you can choose between |
| 02:59.09 | Bushmills | not sure what "normal" and "default" means in this context |
| 02:59.15 | pyther24 | yes I understand that, but is it heavily patched like ubuntu, or is it vanilla? |
| 02:59.36 | nsadmin | there;s not a default set of packages other than the base which is very small and only includes enough to fix net and disk problems (and you can use the shell for whatever), and install/remove packages |
| 03:00.00 | nsadmin | no x, only one shell |
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| 03:01.18 | nsadmin | a handful of commands, mkdir, rmdir, cd, ls, cat, maybe nano (text editor), some system commands, some commands relevent to your boot loader and more generally to your disk |
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| 03:01.46 | nsadmin | that's the only commonality among all installations |
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| 03:02.47 | nsadmin | depending on what you're talking about, some are vanilla, some are patched |
| 03:03.13 | nsadmin | probably the kernel is patched, and apps that showed problems are patched |
| 03:03.30 | streuner | pyther24: why do you ask all these questions? |
| 03:03.54 | nsadmin | I'm assuming he's trying to compare dists |
| 03:04.27 | pyther24 | streuner: because I hate ubuntu with a passion, I find it the most difficult distro to modify |
| 03:04.44 | abrotman | pyther24: you could just install Debian and see what it's like :) |
| 03:05.36 | nsadmin | ubuntu has some similarities with debian, given that a chunk of it is taken straight out of it and then modified |
| 03:06.50 | karlpinc | This is a theoretical question, I don't really need an answer this hot minute. Is there package(s) in main that has a gui interface into a distributed authentication database, ldap or whatever? I recall years ago Red Hat bought something and was supposed to open source it. Every now and again such a thing would be mighty handy to hand off to an admin monkey. |
| 03:06.50 | nsadmin | it depends on what you mean by "to modify a distribution" and what you want to modify |
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| 03:08.18 | Juance | unsolved :( |
| 03:09.57 | nsadmin | pyther24: so, depending on why you dislike ubuntu, it could be you also dislike debian for the same reasons. you'll have to see for yourself; irc isn't the best medium to make those comparisons; you looking at the dist and making your own determination is. |
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| 03:10.23 | nsadmin | Juance: something in the world is unsolved? hmm |
| 03:11.00 | Juance | nsadmin, in my computer only xD |
| 03:11.07 | pyther24 | nsadmin: I understand that, I was simply trying to figure out if debian used a mostly vanilla gnome |
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| 03:16.08 | pseubodot | I'm running testing on a sony ux280 (micro pc with an unusual screen resolution). when I upgraded kernel to 2.6.32-trunk, my display stopped working; using 2.6.26.2 works fine tho -- what changed? |
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| 03:17.24 | vip | , kernels |
| 03:17.25 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.34-1-686 (2.6.34-1~experimental.2); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); squeeze: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.4-686 (2.6.32-11~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-22lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
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| 03:19.22 | k8to | i have a dumb question about root devices. At some point between 2.6.26 and 2.6.30 (all packaged kernels) my root devices stopped being available on boot |
| 03:19.40 | k8to | since i don't get a useful shell, i don't know how to figure out what's happened |
| 03:19.49 | Derailed | Hey guys, I'm a little confused about how kernel version numbers are assigned. I'm writing a script that works out if the kernel you are running is the latest one installed. I'm trying to work out if I can get away with just comparing debian version numbers (2.6.26-22lenny1 vs 2.6.26-13lenny2) or if I have to also compare 'package versions' like 'linux-image-2.6.26-1-xen-amd64' and 'linux-image-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64'. |
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| 03:22.10 | ScottG | I am having problems getting a printer set up. Here is some dmesg output: http://privatepaste.com/bb2bdd6483 |
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| 03:22.20 | ScottG | I get a notification box every so often saying that: Printer '_5000_Series' may not be connected |
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| 03:25.10 | jordanm | ScottG: I see you have been trying to get help for a while. I would suggest the debian-users mailing list |
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| 03:26.12 | jordanm | ScottG: there doesn't appear to be anything wrong in that dmesg though |
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| 03:29.16 | OldParr | if i change the motherboard, do i need to reconfigure debian? |
| 03:29.39 | Bushmills | depends |
| 03:29.53 | OldParr | i left the same HDD |
| 03:30.01 | MeglaW | yes, you need to do a dpkg-reconfigure -a |
| 03:30.08 | pseubodot | have any other components changed? |
| 03:30.11 | MeglaW | and often reboot when its done. |
| 03:30.42 | OldParr | pseubodot: no just the mother board and processor |
| 03:30.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | OldParr, used to need to reconfigure the graphics card, but since lenny you don't have xorg.conf by default either and it's autodetected |
| 03:31.13 | CutMeOwnThroat | (and in your case that stays the same anyway) |
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| 03:31.52 | k8to | huh, i guess if you apply yourself -- somehow linux flipped my sda and sdb |
| 03:31.59 | k8to | handy that |
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| 03:32.44 | pseubodot | udev rules can fix that. |
| 03:32.54 | OldParr | do i have to do an "aptitude update" too or just the "dpkg-reconfigure -a" ? |
| 03:32.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | actually that's still true if you switch to e.g. nvidia and want their binary driver |
| 03:33.00 | pseubodot | of course, you should probably use the drives' uuid for mounting etc |
| 03:33.08 | karlpinc | k8to: Or use uuids and/or filesystem labels. |
| 03:33.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | OldParr, he was just saying something to say something |
| 03:33.21 | Bushmills | aptitude update does nothing to your configuration |
| 03:33.31 | k8to | karlpinc: i do use labels, but that doesn't help grub, to my knowledge |
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| 03:33.49 | k8to | karlpinc: do you know if i can just insert that on the kernel boot line? |
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| 03:34.11 | vip | !70 |
| 03:34.12 | dpkg | udev has the ability to statically rename Ethernet cards based on MAC address since version 0.090. The addresses are configured in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules (Lenny, Squeeze) or /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules (Etch). If you want the mappings to change, edit the respective file. To apply changes: "udevadm trigger" ("udevtrigger" on Etch) or reload the relevant driver module. See also <forcedeth mac>, <udev>. |
| 03:34.33 | vip | OldParr, ^^ |
| 03:34.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | neither does dpkg-reconfigure -a if you answer the questions the same way (and why shouldn't you) |
| 03:34.45 | pyther24 | Can someone tell me what kernel debian usesL |
| 03:35.01 | karlpinc | k8to: You can do "root=foo", but grub, in my experience wants to know exactly what disk the initrd etc are on. |
| 03:35.01 | OldParr | which authorities of certifification do i must activate ? there are lots ? |
| 03:35.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, kernels |
| 03:35.01 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.34-1-686 (2.6.34-1~experimental.2); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); squeeze: 2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.4-686 (2.6.32-11~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-22lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 03:35.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | pyther24, ^^^ |
| 03:35.19 | k8to | karlpinc: grub finds the initrd just fine |
| 03:35.26 | k8to | karlpinc: since it gets its world from the bios |
| 03:35.30 | k8to | which didn't reorder the disks |
| 03:35.46 | k8to | (hd0,6) still maps where it always did |
| 03:35.50 | karlpinc | k8to: Then no worries. You can read about kernel options in the linux-doc package (somewhere). |
| 03:36.02 | k8to | yeah, just thought you might know |
| 03:36.07 | k8to | i can figure it out from here |
| 03:36.09 | pyther24 | CutMeOwnThroat: cheers |
| 03:36.17 | MeglaW | what does it matter if its sda or sdb |
| 03:36.23 | pyther24 | hopefully 2.6.26 works better than CentOS's 2.6.18 |
| 03:36.31 | MeglaW | everything just knows it as its mountpoints right |
| 03:36.36 | k8to | MeglaW: only that the system boots or not |
| 03:36.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | no, / is probably only on one of them |
| 03:36.53 | MeglaW | k8to: it must sence you know that. :) |
| 03:36.54 | k8to | (minor details) |
| 03:37.00 | MeglaW | but other then that, does it matter |
| 03:37.03 | k8to | MeglaW: uh, it boots NOW |
| 03:37.15 | k8to | MeglaW: once i tell it where to find root, the rest are labels |
| 03:37.17 | karlpinc | !tell pyther about bpo |
| 03:37.29 | karlpinc | !tell pyther24 about kumto |
| 03:37.49 | karlpinc | !tell pyther24 about kmuto |
| 03:37.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | are you picking random nicks as well as random factoids there? |
| 03:37.59 | karlpinc | pyther24: ^^ when you need newer kernels. |
| 03:38.04 | Bushmills | grub accepts disk labels,like dev=LABEL=labelname, which can make things a bit easier than with device names or device ids |
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| 03:38.49 | k8to | the problem is not grub understand them, it's just grub telling the kernel where to find its root |
| 03:38.52 | pyther24 | karlpinc: and how does that work, will I get updates with the newer kernels? |
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| 03:45.37 | Juance | excuse me, How i can register the shutdown sequence??? |
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| 03:47.29 | karlpinc | Juance: What do you mean "register"? |
| 03:47.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | monitor.. |
| 03:48.11 | rtronk | i just put ventrilo on my machine i am in the directory with ventrilo_srv but i get no such file or directory |
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| 03:48.18 | rtronk | anyone know how i can fix this? |
| 03:48.21 | karlpinc | Juance: bootlogd |
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| 03:49.09 | karlpinc | Juance: (Although of course the foolproof way is with a serial console and another computer.) |
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| 03:49.50 | Juance | karlpinc, yes yes, but the bootlogd is very good, i will try |
| 03:50.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | if I understand it correctly, he used bootchart and messed with the bootscripts and now it /var is not unmounting... |
| 03:50.06 | Juance | karlpinc, thank you! |
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| 03:53.11 | Juance | brb |
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| 04:06.22 | ScottG | jordanm: Hey sorry. Yea I have lol. I know nothing looked wrong in the dmesg but something does seem wrong in general. I'll try again tomorrow, thanks for the tip :) |
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| 04:10.57 | rtronk | This needs the curses library. If it is not available, menuconf wont work. make: *** [menuconfig-curses] Error 1 |
| 04:11.01 | rtronk | how can i fix this? |
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| 04:13.47 | liable | libncurses5-dev |
| 04:14.50 | Juance | nothing, |
| 04:14.54 | Juance | FUCK! |
| 04:15.32 | Xenguy | you need to swear a lot more than that |
| 04:15.52 | Xenguy | one fk just doesn't do it |
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| 04:16.16 | smacnay | that is called a quickie, I believe |
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| 04:16.35 | Xenguy | heh |
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| 04:17.51 | broSand | greetings |
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| 04:18.27 | broSand | did something go wrong with debian-multimedia.org ? I now get 404 errors from apt. |
| 04:18.47 | Xenguy | broSand: me too, earlier |
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| 04:19.20 | Xenguy | broSand: not sure what's up tho |
| 04:19.26 | broSand | all the folders on the site have an update time of 09-Jun-2010 21:36 |
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| 04:19.42 | broSand | which is just a little bit ago. |
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| 04:20.23 | Xenguy | broSand: shit can happen; hopefully it will be fixed soon though |
| 04:20.24 | krisfremen | i'm getting pissed at xterm |
| 04:20.52 | broSand | Xenguy: hope so. I needed to install k9copy, but now am unsure where to turn. |
| 04:21.28 | Xenguy | broSand: is there an alternate app? |
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| 04:22.29 | Xenguy | broSand: there's dvdrip |
| 04:22.39 | broSand | Xenguy: well, I'm just trying to rip an iso of a DVD, but I'm not sure what app to use that does not require me to install something from debian-multimedia |
| 04:22.45 | broSand | hmm, let me look at that |
| 04:23.27 | broSand | Xenguy, nope. Not currently installed and not available to be installed at the moment. |
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| 04:23.49 | broSand | apt-cache search dvdrip = nada |
| 04:24.49 | broSand | Xenguy, do you have debian-multimedia in your sources.list? |
| 04:24.53 | Xenguy | broSand: are you running lenny or something else? |
| 04:24.57 | broSand | lenny |
| 04:25.01 | Xenguy | broSand: yes |
| 04:25.08 | Xenguy | broSand: and yes, I am running lenny |
| 04:25.26 | broSand | Xenguy, so if you do "apt-get update" do you get a bunch of 404 errors? |
| 04:25.50 | Xenguy | broSand: before, yes, from debian multimedia -- let me try again, one sec... |
| 04:26.01 | broSand | Err http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny/main Packages |
| 04:26.01 | broSand | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:26.09 | broSand | That's what I'm getting |
| 04:26.23 | Xenguy | broSand: still getting errors from http://www.debian-multimedia.org |
| 04:26.30 | Xenguy | broSand: just wait it out |
| 04:26.32 | broSand | Xenguy: balls |
| 04:26.37 | broSand | yeah, guess so. |
| 04:27.05 | Xenguy | broSand: it's an unofficial server for debian, but still very high profile, so should be fixed soon |
| 04:27.09 | broSand | Xenguy, thanks for your help. I thought maybe it was just me. But everything looked right. |
| 04:27.22 | Xenguy | broSand: np :-) |
| 04:27.31 | broSand | Xenguy: Yeah, I'll check back in an hour. Thanks again. |
| 04:27.35 | broSand | cheers |
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| 04:52.06 | VectorX | i want to run a command, rar filename firlname.rar which at somepoint i get a duplicate do you want to overwrite Y, N etc sort of thing |
| 04:52.24 | VectorX | is there a way i can add something to the command which will auto do Y in this case |
| 04:53.22 | zebradog | VectorX, check its manpage for force overwrite |
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| 04:55.42 | VectorX | that is also an option |
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| 04:56.48 | nsadmin | if you mean the option of reading... yes, that's certainly an option... alternatively you could try finding people who will read to you :) |
| 04:57.22 | nsadmin | the ironic part being you have to read all this stuff including this line |
| 04:58.58 | nsadmin | I think probably most people aren't balking on the reading itself... it's creating the solution out of your own mind and then figuring what to read up on to find out how |
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| 05:00.09 | VectorX | well i need to do this in a few places so it more lile passing the Y to the question |
| 05:00.28 | VectorX | can that be done |
| 05:00.32 | nsadmin | man yes? |
| 05:01.15 | nsadmin | but first figure out if the command you're running (I guess rar) can do the forcing |
| 05:01.23 | nsadmin | or the "yes"ing |
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| 05:03.29 | VectorX | wow that command has a lot of documentation |
| 05:03.49 | nsadmin | oh, glad to hear that |
| 05:04.27 | nsadmin | so you were able to solve it with the command itself? |
| 05:05.47 | VectorX | well i am not sure if running that seems like a good idea |
| 05:07.26 | zebradog | VectorX, documentation is a man's passion, that's why we call it rtfm! ;P |
| 05:07.26 | prince_jammys | rar --say-yes-only-when-its-a-good-idea |
| 05:08.12 | nsadmin | VectorX: you just invented its default behavior |
| 05:08.17 | nsadmin | to ask you what you want |
| 05:08.35 | nsadmin | and now we're full circle :) |
| 05:08.57 | VectorX | :) |
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| 05:09.52 | nsadmin | I'd say the exploration was worth your time doing, since then you could make an informed decision |
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| 05:10.50 | VectorX | so cp overwrites without question right ' |
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| 05:12.58 | nsadmin | I guess you know what I'm going to say now :) |
| 05:13.13 | nsadmin | so you have this command... |
| 05:13.21 | nsadmin | (insert command name here) cp |
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| 05:13.36 | nsadmin | and you want to know something about what it does... |
| 05:13.43 | nsadmin | so you run: |
| 05:13.53 | nsadmin | man (insert command name here) cp |
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| 05:14.22 | anyoneofus | hi all |
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| 05:14.48 | VectorX | you guys remind me of a bunch of jokes i used to read sometime back |
| 05:14.55 | anyoneofus | i have a problem, someone help me. I get error after i run command "/etc/init.d/havp start" |
| 05:14.55 | VectorX | not saying you guys are a joke |
| 05:15.05 | nsadmin | you're not?! |
| 05:15.08 | VectorX | let me try to find one atleast |
| 05:15.25 | VectorX | if you havent read them, its pretty funny |
| 05:15.38 | anyoneofus | thiss is my error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/447591/ |
| 05:16.00 | VectorX | they are the Bastard Operator from Hell artiles |
| 05:16.02 | VectorX | articles |
| 05:16.15 | VectorX | http://bofh.ntk.net/BOFH/index.php |
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| 05:18.26 | nsadmin | VectorX: just trying to do everyone a favor, including you, me, and the channel: the more informed you are before asking questions, the more interesting the conversation will be |
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| 05:19.19 | jamesbrink | go another bash question.. im trying to use exec("cd /some/dir;./start_some_server -arg1 -arg2 &> console.output &;echo $!") from ruby.. my problem is.. using & to background a task and then ; echo $! does not seem to work |
| 05:19.37 | jamesbrink | can anyone give me a better one liner for that |
| 05:19.47 | jamesbrink | i need the pid of that server i backgrounded |
| 05:19.54 | VectorX | nsadmin thats fine i know the drill |
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| 05:22.37 | prince_jammys | jamesbrink: '&' and ';' serve the same syntactic purpose in the shell. use one or the other |
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| 05:25.04 | nsadmin | and the more interesting the conversation is, the less it seems like a "drill" to anyone |
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| 05:26.37 | nsadmin | if you'd like to continue this, I have no problem with that... just reply :) |
| 05:26.40 | jamesbrink | ahh thanks prince_jammys |
| 05:28.00 | VectorX | nah thats fine, i solved the immediate problem with the rar, i think ill leave it there |
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| 05:29.22 | nsadmin | excellent! |
| 05:30.09 | VectorX | season finale of stargate tomorrow, pretty exited |
| 05:30.11 | nsadmin | anyoneofus, does havp have anything to do with clamav? from the log it looks like havp started and then something else happened |
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| 05:31.35 | anyoneofus | nsadmin: i can't start havp |
| 05:32.28 | nsadmin | how do you know it's not started? is havp in a debian package? what is the package name? |
| 05:32.29 | anyoneofus | nsadmin: so i think my problem is clamav and havp version |
| 05:33.01 | anyoneofus | yep, i install havp use command: "apt-get install havp" |
| 05:33.17 | nsadmin | , versions havp |
| 05:33.18 | judd | havp -- lenny: 0.89-1; sid: 0.91-1.1; squeeze: 0.91-1.1 |
| 05:33.44 | nsadmin | dpkg -s havp | grep Version |
| 05:33.44 | dpkg | There is no record of a havp | grep Version package |
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| 05:34.07 | nsadmin | anyoneofus, run that |
| 05:34.16 | nsadmin | you should get one line |
| 05:34.38 | anyoneofus | Version: 0.89-1 |
| 05:34.49 | nsadmin | so, the lenny version |
| 05:35.57 | anyoneofus | nsadmin: yep |
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| 05:36.34 | bugz__ | /MSG chanserv help |
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| 05:37.02 | anyoneofus | any idead? |
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| 05:38.17 | nsadmin | well it seems clamav is having some problem parsing or finding files... also it claims it's old and wants to be replaced |
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| 05:41.03 | anyoneofus | how to get lastest version of havp (0.91) for debian 5.04 |
| 05:41.06 | nsadmin | hmm, I just saw an interesting msg in my dmesg... pcmcia: This interface will soon be removed from the kernel; please expect breakage unless you upgrade to new tools. |
| 05:41.11 | nsadmin | what new tools? |
| 05:41.38 | nsadmin | anyoneofus, maybe it's backported, if not you could try to recompile the package |
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| 05:47.48 | nsadmin | I have a usb device, lsusb says: "Bus 004 Device 006: ID 0bda:8189 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8187B Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps Network Adapter", my uname -r is "2.6.26-1-686", what do I need to do to support it? |
| 05:48.29 | nsadmin | it used to work without any extra effort in etch, what do I need? |
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| 05:52.47 | poecundank | hi |
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| 05:55.37 | poecundank | where can I download Debian CD burning? |
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| 05:56.32 | nsadmin | you might be able to install over the net with a minimal cd. want to try that? |
| 05:57.45 | nsadmin | or if I'm not understanding, could you give an idea of what you want to accomplish |
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| 06:07.37 | NeoLobst1r | Hi... I was wondering if anyone could tell me what this command does: ssh some.domain.name -fN -L localhost:9999:some_ip_address -l |
| 06:07.55 | simonrvn | man ssh |
| 06:07.58 | NeoLobst1r | it's got a lot of strange options that I haven't seen... I understand that it's port redirecting, but what purpose would someone have for doing something like that |
| 06:08.02 | NeoLobst1r | yeah, simonrvn not helpful |
| 06:08.41 | zebradog | NeoLobst1r, -l implies love |
| 06:08.44 | simonrvn | that's where you'll find the info |
| 06:09.22 | NeoLobst1r | simonrvn: I have looked at every option that was passed in the manpage, thanks. |
| 06:09.32 | NeoLobst1r | I don't understand what the combination of those options put together actually does |
| 06:09.50 | simonrvn | tunneling |
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| 06:10.03 | NeoLobst1r | tunneling FROM somewhere or TO somewhere? |
| 06:10.10 | NeoLobst1r | like, would someone connect to this session via 9999 |
| 06:10.14 | zebradog | simonrvn, and love in a amusement park love tunnel |
| 06:10.17 | simonrvn | from, to |
| 06:10.21 | poecundank | whether this is the debian-504-amd64-DVD-2.iso debian latest list? |
| 06:10.21 | NeoLobst1r | or would they be connecting somewhere else on 6667 |
| 06:10.28 | nsadmin | NeoLobst1r: so you know more than you were telling... provide the detail on more exactly what you do know and what you want to know based on what you read |
| 06:10.46 | NeoLobst1r | okay, so |
| 06:11.00 | NeoLobst1r | I have a user whose account I suspect is compromised |
| 06:11.06 | NeoLobst1r | I saw that in the bash_history |
| 06:11.08 | zebradog | poecundank, amd64 , you got x64 processor? |
| 06:11.18 | NeoLobst1r | I just want to know if it's something I need to be concerned about |
| 06:11.21 | NeoLobst1r | the user "doesn't remember" |
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| 06:37.35 | xro | hi, how can i add a local user if i already have it in ldap database? i need it for a special case... when i do useradd -s /bin/false -g vpn « username », it say me user already exists.... |
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| 06:42.16 | liouk | anyone tried Gnome Shell? |
| 06:42.22 | xro | hi, how can i add a local user if i already have it in ldap database? i need it for a special case... when i do useradd -s /bin/false -g vpn « username », it say me user already exists.... |
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| 06:42.55 | liouk | lol |
| 06:43.29 | jpinx-eeepc | xro: delete the username first |
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| 06:44.21 | xro | jpinx-eeepc, how delete it? the user is in the ldap database? |
| 06:44.42 | jpinx-eeepc | userdel or whatever |
| 06:46.08 | xro | jpinx-eeepc, userdel: error deleting password entry i think that i have to remove the ldap user from the cache then create the local user then reactivate ldap... but i don't know how! |
| 06:46.15 | istok | useradd/adduser userdel/deluser |
| 06:46.43 | jpinx-eeepc | istok: yea - that too ;) |
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| 06:48.40 | xro | istok, jpinx-eeepc, but the user i have to delete isn't a local user... he comes from a remote ldap server... how delete it from my local machine? |
| 06:49.38 | jpinx-eeepc | xro: How did you add him in the first place? |
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| 06:50.49 | xro | jpinx-eeepc, the machine is connected to ldap and get it... nscd i think... |
| 06:50.56 | istok | hrmm, deluser theiracct ldap |
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| 06:52.05 | icebubble | hi all, I got a fresh new debian 4 etch, and sudo is missing. Is this expected ? |
| 06:52.56 | xro | istok, deluser xxxxx Removing user `xxxxxx' ... Warning: group `xxxx' has no more members. userdel: error deleting password entry /usr/sbin/deluser: `/usr/sbin/userdel xxxxxxx' returned error code 1. Exiting. |
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| 06:54.02 | istok | hrmm, see, i never use ldap, but to add, it suggests; ldapadd .... <- so, to remove, one would assume; ldapdelete |
| 06:54.09 | jpinx-eeepc | icebubble: iirc sudo is not installed by default - you can su |
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| 06:54.52 | icebubble | jpinx-eeepc, ok thx. what means iirc ? |
| 06:54.53 | FDfh | Hi, how can I get my clock to sync with the internet servers? |
| 06:55.09 | istok | FDfh, ntp/ntp-client/ntpdate |
| 06:55.24 | FDfh | istok: which would you recommend? |
| 06:55.28 | xro | istok, in fact the users are in the cache.... i just need to reload users cache... do you know how? |
| 06:55.34 | istok | all 3 ;) |
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| 06:55.48 | FDfh | istok: ah, lol |
| 06:55.50 | istok | xro, sorry, i've only used debian since yesterday, i'm still having a play around ;) |
| 06:55.58 | jpinx-eeepc | icebubble: if I recall correctly |
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| 06:57.19 | xro | istok, ok thank |
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| 06:57.38 | xro | jpinx-eeepc, is there a way to reload the user cache? |
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| 06:59.01 | zplinux | hi all |
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| 06:59.34 | icebubble | ~bin |
| 06:59.59 | apt | rumour has it, bin is where you put rubbish, or your little brother/sister, or your copy of Windows 98 |
| 06:59.59 | icebubble | !bin |
| 07:00.00 | dpkg | i heard .bin is NOT a meaningful filename extension. aptitude install file, then run file on your .bin and see what the hell it is. Or read it with less. Or read the damned README that should have come with it. If it looks like a shell script, try "sh myfile.bin". the extension some JDK installers have, these are executable files; also there is a macintosh archive format with that extension, or a name given to CD images, ask me about <bin-cue>. |
| 07:00.00 | icebubble | ... |
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| 07:03.12 | icebubble | could there be a good reason why my hoster only use debian non-free repo ? here's my source list: http://paste.debian.net/76826/ |
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| 07:04.55 | lindi- | icebubble: only? |
| 07:05.37 | icebubble | lindi-, check my source list, it seems weird to me but I'm no expert |
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| 07:06.33 | lindi- | icebubble: other than the unofficial mirror it looks ok |
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| 07:06.56 | icebubble | lindi-, whaat do you mean, I don't understand |
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| 07:07.20 | lindi- | icebubble: update.onlinehome-server.info |
| 07:07.55 | icebubble | lindi-, this should be a mirror set up by my hoster. |
| 07:08.17 | icebubble | lindi-, why does every entry are tagged 'non-free' ? |
| 07:08.31 | lindi- | icebubble: it has main contrib and non-free |
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| 07:09.00 | icebubble | lindi-, ok ok I got it. Main contains the free packges ? |
| 07:09.06 | lindi- | icebubble: yes |
| 07:09.12 | icebubble | lindi-ok thwx |
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| 07:09.23 | lindi- | icebubble: contrib and non-free are not officially part of debian |
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| 07:09.43 | icebubble | lindi-, so I can comment them I I don't use any of these |
| 07:10.28 | lindi- | icebubble: probably. are you the only admin? |
| 07:10.45 | icebubble | lindi-, yes |
| 07:11.15 | icebubble | lindi-, I should maybe let the security contrib and non-free ? |
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| 07:11.34 | icebubble | lindi-, but my aim is to upgrade to lenny |
| 07:11.57 | nascentmind | hi. while packaging if the file name is the same as some other package what strategy do packagers use to change it? |
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| 07:12.19 | lindi- | nascentmind: they rename |
| 07:12.32 | nascentmind | i.e. if the other package installs a file with the same name in the folder. |
| 07:12.52 | lindi- | nascentmind: got some concrete case? |
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| 07:14.44 | nascentmind | lindi-: I am modifying some code in one of the package and packaging it. it has differences in the original code. I have packaged it but when I am installing there is some conflicts in the file names of the original package i.e. in places where the folders are common i.e. /usr/bin and /etc/. |
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| 07:15.14 | qiyong | how do i show full package name with dpkg -l ? |
| 07:15.26 | lindi- | nascentmind: can you be bit more specific? what package is it? |
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| 07:16.10 | nascentmind | lindi-: the name of the package you mean? |
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| 07:16.32 | kr0ddnnoMobil | hi there. does anybody know a quick way how to convert a String containing spaces and other stuff to a string only containing a-zA-Z ? |
| 07:17.02 | lindi- | nascentmind: yes |
| 07:17.03 | AimHere | Different languages have different strings |
| 07:17.23 | nascentmind | lindi-: the package name is fossology. have done some slight ui changes and written some plugins. |
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| 07:18.24 | AimHere | kr0ddnnoMobil, since you've not told us what language or whatever, here's one that operates on a textfile: perl -pe "s/[^a-zA-Z]//g" < textfile.txt |
| 07:18.53 | kr0ddnnoMobil | AimHere: omg. thanks. thats what i meant ^^ |
| 07:19.08 | kr0ddnnoMobil | i'm using php, but there it's the same |
| 07:19.14 | lindi- | nascentmind: and you changed the package name? |
| 07:20.13 | nascentmind | lindi-: i changed where it installs i.e. the makefile.conf and also some rules and also the package name. |
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| 07:20.55 | lindi- | nascentmind: do you want to be able to have both versions installed at the same time? |
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| 07:21.10 | nascentmind | lindi-: all the program specific files it installs in mypackagename folder. the problem comes when it installs configuration files and cron files etc. |
| 07:21.41 | nascentmind | lindi-: i would prefer both present. I want users to use either my mod or the original one. |
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| 07:22.22 | icebubble | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:22.30 | lindi- | nascentmind: then I'm afraid you need to rename the configuration files too |
| 07:22.39 | inspiron | when you install a kernel how does the kernel know whether it will be compatible with the installed gcc version? Dependencies? |
| 07:23.06 | nascentmind | lindi-: hmm. any other ideas? |
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| 07:23.30 | lgeetj | goodmorning! |
| 07:24.01 | icebubble | dpkg is fun ! |
| 07:24.01 | dpkg | icebubble: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 07:24.02 | inspiron | Can you then check what version was used to build the kernel in the repos - by dependencies checking |
| 07:24.04 | icebubble | <icebubble> <lenny release notes> |
| 07:24.05 | icebubble | <dpkg> are you using Windows? |
| 07:24.37 | icebubble | mornin |
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| 07:25.58 | inspiron | Anyone? |
| 07:26.14 | lindi- | nascentmind: chroots |
| 07:26.36 | lindi- | nascentmind: they are very nice way to get users to test new setups |
| 07:26.52 | liable | inspiron: i dont think it really matters |
| 07:27.05 | liable | iirc they still say to use gcc-2.95 |
| 07:27.14 | liable | but noone does |
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| 07:27.48 | lindi- | liable: "- Make sure you have at least gcc 3.2 available." |
| 07:27.52 | inspiron | liable: well if you want to build modules for that kernel (from source) then I'm pretty certain you need to use the same version that was used to build the kernel itself |
| 07:28.27 | liable | inspiron: i dont think so, but its been ages since i have, but never had issues in the past |
| 07:28.35 | liable | lindi-: oh, where is that from? |
| 07:28.45 | lindi- | liable: README of linux-2.6 |
| 07:28.59 | liable | oh, wonder when that changed.. |
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| 07:29.54 | inspiron | liable: so what you're saying is that gcc used to build the kernel and gcc running (and being used to build programs and modules for the kernel) can be absolutely different |
| 07:30.07 | lindi- | liable: in a1365647022eb05a5993f270a78e9bef3bf554eb Date: Sun Jan 8 01:04:09 2006 -0800 |
| 07:30.37 | liable | heh |
| 07:30.54 | liable | i didnt think my memory was that good to remember something from before then |
| 07:31.05 | CissWit | inspiron: for sure. Because, to build a kernel with a new version of gcc, you need to run this gcc on a kernel built by a different gcc |
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| 07:32.15 | inspiron | CissWit: yes but this kernel is going to be used on it's own. I want to build a module for a kernel I am not running which will be used by that kernel |
| 07:32.24 | CissWit | oh sorry |
| 07:32.30 | CissWit | i read bad. |
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| 07:34.10 | inspiron | is there a way to find what toolchains are used to build them kernels |
| 07:36.46 | icebubble | lenny release notes explain that I should use screen to upgrade my distant server, to ensure a connection problem may not interrupt the upgrade process. Have someone ever used it ? is it easy of use ? Is a client only or is there anything to install on the server ? |
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| 07:36.59 | nascentmind | lindi-: I am packaging and testing in chroots itself :). Otherwise I would have messed up my main env now |
| 07:37.06 | lindi- | icebubble: screen runs on the server only |
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| 07:37.21 | lindi- | nascentmind: schroot? |
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| 07:38.21 | nascentmind | lindi-: yes. |
| 07:38.45 | nascentmind | lindi-: and yes i have removed the bind of /home :) |
| 07:39.15 | lindi- | nascentmind: just add a bind and it'll be easy for your users |
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| 07:40.08 | nascentmind | lindi-: oh I am not giving users to test. |
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| 07:40.43 | mobidev | hi to all |
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| 07:41.40 | skeletal | Hi gus, i'm trying to install COMPIZ-FUSION in my debian lenny. So, i'm reading a tutorial that learn how to do to installation... But, this tutorial says that we need to configure XORG.CONF. But, in my system my xorg.conf file is blank. So, in this case, what i can I do ?!? |
| 07:43.20 | lindi- | skeletal: just add what you need to xorg.conf |
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| 07:44.33 | skeletal | lindi Really? is there some problem if I do that? |
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| 07:45.22 | skeletal | lindi this is the xorg http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/etc/xorg.conf-5 |
| 07:45.40 | FDfh | Hi, is it possible to make the title bar of windows transparent like you can with the gnome panel? |
| 07:46.14 | skeletal | lindi if i past it in my xorg.conf will be that can I have some hardware/configuration problem?! |
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| 07:46.24 | lindi- | skeletal: well you can't just copy somebody else's xorg.conf there |
| 07:46.34 | skeletal | hmm.... |
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| 07:53.02 | FDfh | Hah, nvm, found it; Configuration editor -> apps -> gwd -> metacity_theme_active_opacity |
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| 08:19.09 | Soileh | What would be the best way to get a quick overview of a boxes specs, like ram/cpu/disk? |
| 08:19.38 | idimmu | lshw |
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| 08:20.10 | Soileh | Thank you :) |
| 08:20.11 | frostschutz | /proc/cpuinfo, free -m, fdisk -l / hdparm -i / smartctl |
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| 08:21.52 | frischis09 | !list |
| 08:21.52 | dpkg | frischis09: VATTENE VIA |
| 08:22.00 | frischis09 | !ciao |
| 08:22.00 | dpkg | rumour has it, ciao is both hello and goodbye (casual), or a slow and old but widely known Prolog interpreter. |
| 08:22.05 | frischis09 | !list |
| 08:22.05 | dpkg | frischis09: VATTENE VIA |
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| 08:23.58 | fluffymuffins | hello, i am currently having quite some difficulty getting my tftp server running. it says that it is up, however refuses to send packages to my nodes... |
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| 08:25.57 | icebubble | upgrading etch to lenny will also install a new kernel? |
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| 08:26.44 | cire | Hi, I configured a bridge (br0) and it is working quite well, except the timeout when booting (br0 is waiting to get ready (maxwait is 18 seconds)). May I adjust the timeout somehow? Do I really need that? What is the bridge doing? |
| 08:27.13 | fluffymuffins | on the node: "PXE-T01: File not found // PXE-E3B: TFTP Error - File not found // PXE-M0F: Exiting PXE ROM." |
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| 08:31.57 | fluffymuffins | seems as though actually it is not a matter of tftp, but rather pxe. anyone know how to manually start the pxe server? |
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| 08:41.39 | Bushmills | fluffymuffins: try to download file from tftp server using a tftp client - probably when file still can't be found (which i believe it will say),the problem is with tftp server |
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| 08:42.01 | MrEntropy | yo |
| 08:42.10 | amo-ej1 | does anybody have any idea where applications like firefox and emacs obtain the information of which fonts to use in their menus and which sizes ? |
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| 08:42.26 | MrEntropy | is there some way to remove all packages I got from a certain (third party) repository? |
| 08:42.40 | themill | MrEntropy: which one? |
| 08:42.56 | MrEntropy | themill: maemo extras and testing |
| 08:43.06 | lindi- | amo-ej1: they are very different applications in that regard afaik |
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| 08:43.49 | themill | MrEntropy: is this actually on debian though? Because the solutions I'll offer are debian specific.... |
| 08:43.55 | themill | MrEntropy: this is #debian, after all |
| 08:44.02 | MrEntropy | themill: yep. debian. |
| 08:44.31 | fluffymuffins | Bushmills, i believe we have talked before, and hello once again! and that is a slight problem there. all my said clients are diskless and with no deamon like that, and thus, i cannot run commands via the clients :'( |
| 08:44.46 | themill | MrEntropy: you can purge all non-debian packages with: aptitude purge '!?origin(debian)' |
| 08:45.22 | Bushmills | fluffymuffins: you should be able to run tftp client on same machine as tftp server |
| 08:45.34 | MrEntropy | what if i don't have aptitude? |
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| 08:45.49 | fluffymuffins | Bushmills, ah so that is what you mean. |
| 08:46.04 | jelly | MrEntropy: install it! |
| 08:46.21 | themill | MrEntropy: it's a standard tool that should be installed in debian. That's why I asked. |
| 08:46.33 | MrEntropy | hehe. can't. working on a 256mb flash disk and the whole point of removing packages is so that i get some space. |
| 08:46.36 | themill | is sick of maemo people complaining that they don't have aptitude installed but no on it really is debian. |
| 08:46.41 | Bushmills | for tftp root path correctness testing, it doesn't really matter - you'r not testing network connectivity, after al. |
| 08:47.15 | jelly | MrEntropy: you can always test on another machine (be it emulated or not) |
| 08:47.28 | themill | MrEntropy: "/msg dpkg which repo" and do some more scripting. |
| 08:48.02 | Bushmills | MrEntropy: or, remove anything you're unlikely to use, regardless of repo |
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| 08:48.30 | MrEntropy | ok, i'll see what i can do, since there's no quick fix |
| 08:48.32 | MrEntropy | thanks |
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| 08:54.29 | fluffymuffins | Bushmills, i apologize, i do cannot seem to figure out how to use tftp in that way. would i need to mod a script in order to do that? |
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| 08:55.20 | Bushmills | no. tftp client, and simple command line |
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| 08:56.10 | fluffymuffins | what would that command be? tftp: command not found |
| 08:56.31 | Bushmills | install, for example, tftp-hpa |
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| 08:57.53 | fluffymuffins | tftpd-hpa is installed and running. the even the nodes see that there is tftp installed, but then gets errors with pxe, which is why i am wondering if it is pxe, and not tftp |
| 08:58.42 | Bushmills | when you're not able to download file using tftp client, you don't need to wonder any longer |
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| 09:02.27 | lmaowaffle | hello. i'm not sure if it's offtopic, but does anyone know what happened to debian-multimedia.org |
| 09:02.40 | lmaowaffle | notably, the welcome page is gone, and apt is unable to pull from main |
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| 09:06.05 | fluffymuffins | Bushmills: i am assuming that i would direct tftp client to the tftp directory i set up for my nodes? |
| 09:06.46 | Bushmills | well, that is something for the tftp server to do. the client simply requests a file, just like the pxe client. |
| 09:07.08 | fluffymuffins | hmm. well then. there is something wrong with tftp |
| 09:07.10 | Bushmills | so when one fails, so will the other |
| 09:08.07 | fluffymuffins | error code 1: file not found |
| 09:08.07 | Bushmills | actually "like pxe client" is incorrect |
| 09:08.12 | Bushmills | pxe only obtains information what to download and passed that to a tftp client |
| 09:08.42 | fluffymuffins | i see |
| 09:08.58 | jelly | lmaowaffle: try a mirror in the meantime: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.debian-multimedia.org/debian-m.php |
| 09:08.58 | Bushmills | well, that reply i expected, from your error message, which is why is asked you to test with tftp client |
| 09:09.41 | fluffymuffins | ok so what would be unsaid plan of action? |
| 09:10.14 | Bushmills | tftp root dir incorrectly set up. or downloadable files copied to wrong location. or files not readable. |
| 09:10.28 | fluffymuffins | and once again i do apologize i am running off of 1hr sleep at the moment |
| 09:10.37 | Bushmills | find out what it is, then take steps to remedy it |
| 09:12.06 | Bushmills | (excluding trivial cause like typo in file name) |
| 09:14.02 | fluffymuffins | if you wish to know for future reference, the documentation i followed was http://gabeortiz.net/2009/debian-diskless-cluster-howto/ |
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| 09:16.48 | Bushmills | consider to check out dnsmasq. dns forwarder, dhcp server, tftp server in one single program. can be used to netboot from it. |
| 09:17.45 | Bushmills | dns caching proxy probably better term |
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| 09:17.53 | lmaowaffle | jelly: thnaks :) |
| 09:18.26 | fluffymuffins | that is actually what i am using |
| 09:18.33 | jelly | Bushmills: dns recursor? |
| 09:19.05 | jelly | as opposed to an authoritative dns server |
| 09:19.15 | Bushmills | no recursor. forwareder, also able to serve from its hosts file, and allows RRs in its config. |
| 09:19.41 | Bushmills | so it has even mild authoritative aspects |
| 09:19.50 | jelly | so you need to have a separate recursor? eh |
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| 09:20.00 | Bushmills | or point it to one |
| 09:20.11 | jelly | that's what I said |
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| 09:20.26 | Bushmills | no, you said "have" :) |
| 09:20.28 | jelly | even if it's 8.8.8.8 ;-) |
| 09:20.31 | fluffymuffins | does anyone have probs with the new apt-get update from testing/unstable? it is telling me to run autoremove to remove all of my kde programs + about 1gig of others as well O.o |
| 09:20.37 | jelly | have... available |
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| 09:21.57 | lmaowaffle | fluffymuffins: my update done 2-3 minutes ago pulled in about 20 updated packages |
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| 09:23.06 | jelly | fluffymuffins: that usually means you removed a metapackage that brought in all that stuff |
| 09:23.20 | fluffymuffins | lmaowaffle, that is not what i am saying, the dist-upgrade works just fine, its just that it thins there are 350+ unused programs |
| 09:24.15 | fluffymuffins | jelly: that makes sense, though i have not removed any metapackages |
| 09:24.20 | Bushmills | "autoremove to remove all of my kde programs" .. i think apt-get makes a lot of sense with this :) |
| 09:24.42 | liable | !start a desktop war |
| 09:24.42 | dpkg | KDE owns you and your dog. |
| 09:24.48 | liable | perfect |
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| 09:26.36 | fluffymuffins | Bushmills it seriously tells me i should remove everything all the way down to java6-plugin which i am using currently |
| 09:26.49 | fluffymuffins | oh yeah, kernels included |
| 09:26.54 | Bushmills | update again. probably a failed repo |
| 09:26.58 | fluffymuffins | nope |
| 09:27.09 | fluffymuffins | all repos check good |
| 09:27.45 | liable | this is apt-get or aptitude? |
| 09:27.50 | fluffymuffins | apt-get |
| 09:27.52 | Bushmills | damaged packages file on your mirror, maybe |
| 09:28.02 | fluffymuffins | hmmmm have not checked that one |
| 09:28.18 | fluffymuffins | but then again idk |
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| 09:28.26 | Bushmills | rendering a good part of your installed packages obsolete |
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| 09:29.24 | liable | try dpkg --update-avail |
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| 09:30.32 | fluffymuffins | w what file arg? |
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| 09:30.48 | icebubble | aptitude install apt is possible ? |
| 09:31.18 | icebubble | instead of apt-get install apt |
| 09:31.56 | fluffymuffins | 490 packages to be removed when i use aptitude |
| 09:32.14 | Bushmills | icebubble: possible |
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| 09:32.52 | liable | if you purge aptitude it clears out its database of auto installed and will fix that |
| 09:32.56 | liable | or unmark auto |
| 09:33.13 | liable | i dont know how to fix apt-get from that though |
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| 09:34.26 | fluffymuffins | when i use aptitude purge i get 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 490 to remove and 27 not upgraded. |
| 09:34.43 | fluffymuffins | hmph |
| 09:34.46 | fluffymuffins | idk |
| 09:35.40 | fluffymuffins | but WOW i got distracted ummm yeah the tftp serv umm |
| 09:37.28 | fluffymuffins | but still. i do not wanna run aptitude and get my kde-base uninstalled, along with 489 other progs |
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| 09:37.56 | thrashold | Does Debian Multimedia continue to exist? |
| 09:38.10 | fluffymuffins | ye |
| 09:38.12 | fluffymuffins | s |
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| 09:38.29 | thrashold | All packages seem to be gone from the server |
| 09:38.51 | fluffymuffins | really? allow me to check |
| 09:38.52 | thrashold | More like all files |
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| 09:39.20 | thrashold | http://www.debian-multimedia.org/dists/lenny/main/binary-amd64/ Nothing here or in any other directory |
| 09:39.58 | fluffymuffins | yea i just got a 404 not found. interesting |
| 09:40.12 | fluffymuffins | from an apt update |
| 09:41.16 | thrashold | It looks like someone deleted everything from find -type f |
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| 09:42.04 | cast | i did once find that my music collection was a set of empty folders, still never worked out how that happened |
| 09:42.09 | fluffymuffins | did the packages move over to the lenny main at debian.org? |
| 09:42.50 | fluffymuffins | bec i am still getting updates from my multimedia packages that i installed |
| 09:42.52 | thrashold | cast: I'm a master of eradicating file systems, can give you a few ideas how to do it again in a multitude of ways :P |
| 09:43.17 | fluffymuffins | I BLAME THRASHOLD! |
| 09:44.20 | cast | thrashold: my favourite is watching people write to the one file system from two different layers, say directly mounted and then throw a RAID1 array |
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| 09:45.05 | thrashold | fluffymuffins: I successfully downloaded libdvdcss2 from debian-multimedia with the lists from the previous apt-get update |
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| 09:45.36 | fluffymuffins | then why am i getting a 404 message? |
| 09:45.47 | thrashold | cast: Oh, no need to do it from different layers, just enable write cache on RAID 5, and pull the disk plugs while writing |
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| 09:46.25 | jelly | dpkg, d-m down is try a mirror in the meantime: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.debian-multimedia.org/debian-m.php |
| 09:46.25 | dpkg | okay, jelly |
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| 09:46.35 | jelly | !tell fluffymuffins about d-m down |
| 09:46.40 | Psi-Jack | Hmmm. Does Debian 5.0.4 have NFSv4 support? |
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| 09:49.48 | lmaowaffle | thrashold: i came across that too |
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| 09:49.54 | lmaowaffle | thrashold: the local mirror works fine, though |
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| 09:52.08 | nsadmin | how do you reset a linksys wap? |
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| 09:52.17 | Homere | hello |
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| 09:52.24 | fluffymuffins | jelly: the server you mentioned failed to fetch anything |
| 09:52.27 | Homere | any issue with libc since this morning ? |
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| 09:52.31 | Psi-Jack | nsadmin: ##networking ? |
| 09:52.32 | Homere | got this : 7f6b6f9b0000+14a000 |
| 09:52.37 | Homere | login[3120] trap divide error ip:7f6b6f9d9ae9 sp:7fffbcf80c20 error:0 in libc-2.7.so[7f6b6f9b0000+14a000] |
| 09:52.50 | nsadmin | Homere: known issues in bts |
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| 09:53.50 | jelly | fluffymuffins: which one? I'm currently mirroring a mirror and it has 6GB of stuff. ftp://debian-multimedia.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/debian-multimedia/ |
| 09:54.13 | Homere | nsadmin: thanks, that's quite dangerous. |
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| 09:54.34 | fluffymuffins | jelly: the http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.debian-multimedia.org/debian-m.php |
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| 09:54.47 | nsadmin | Homere: and would offer you the place where all such questions are answered |
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| 09:55.07 | jelly | fluffymuffins: works for me. |
| 09:55.10 | nsadmin | safe bet, keeps you happy, KEEPS CHANNEL CLEAR OF CRAP |
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| 09:56.09 | Homere | nsadmin: do you have thus bug number ? |
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| 09:57.17 | jelly | fluffymuffins: http://fly.srk.fer.hr/~jelly/debian-m.php.html |
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| 09:58.28 | fluffymuffins | jelly: well yes but i am in the states, i do not see any servers listed for the states |
| 09:59.04 | fluffymuffins | or any of the americas for that matter |
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| 10:00.21 | WormFood | what was the name of the program that tests the debian mirrors for the fastest one? |
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| 10:01.03 | WormFood | netselect-apt |
| 10:02.28 | WormFood | I remember there were 2 programs to do that (unless my memory is faulty)...is netselect-apt the "best" one? |
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| 10:03.37 | dominet | hello folks |
| 10:03.41 | nsadmin | Homere: I guess the package name is libc6 or glibc |
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| 10:04.56 | dominet | i'm working on my mail server - can you tell me if it's possible to create "fake" accounts? i mean e.g. i created "office" user on my box so the mail is: office@domain.com BUT i don't want the whole world to know the REAL account on the box... is there a way around it? |
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| 10:05.37 | petemc | dominet: that commonly known as virtual users, and most mtas support that |
| 10:05.53 | jelly | fluffymuffins: some of the content there is _illegal_ in US |
| 10:05.59 | dominet | petemc: i read you and will try to learn more about it |
| 10:06.28 | dominet | petemc: do you know if postfix will support it, too? |
| 10:06.33 | fluffymuffins | jelly: ok well that makes sense then. |
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| 10:06.50 | dbdavid | hi |
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| 10:07.25 | fluffymuffins | jelly: but now i am once again trying to get my tftp up and running, and i just cant seem to find which configuration file to mod |
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| 10:07.49 | dominet | petemc: guess i found it: http://www.howtoforge.com/virtual_postfix_mysql_quota_courier :) many thanks again |
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| 10:08.33 | dbdavid | my wireless does not work well on squeeze.in dmesg:no probe response from ap,disconnecting....what's wrong |
| 10:08.44 | cast | you're using wireless |
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| 10:09.28 | dbdavid | the connection could keep for 2seconds... |
| 10:09.48 | dbdavid | wireless driver is ath5k |
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| 10:15.39 | fluffymuffins | Bushmills: i think i found it. my pxelinux.0 file that is in my tftpboot directory for my nodes delivered several error messages relating to, first the ramdisc image, but then says not enough memory to load specified image. |
| 10:16.18 | wohnout | Hello can someone help me with migration of debian. I'm moving from /dev/vda to /dev/sda what everything I need to run to fix grub kernel and ... i don't know. |
| 10:16.58 | liable | grub and fstab is about it |
| 10:17.22 | liable | how did you get /dev/vda? never seen that before |
| 10:18.49 | jelly | v stands for victory. And sometimes virtual. |
| 10:19.07 | hanibanaa | anyone of Linux media players have that feature of Windows Media Player which can be minimized on the right of taskbar as a toolbar? |
| 10:19.35 | liable | jelly: so its a VPS? |
| 10:19.58 | wohnout | liable: vda = virtio driver |
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| 10:20.22 | jelly | hanibanaa: taskbars in Linux are an interesting bunch and they don't yet have a unified API that would enable such functionality |
| 10:20.35 | wohnout | liable: so you are saying that only run "grub" command and change values in /etc/fstab? |
| 10:20.41 | FallenHitokiri | hanibanaa: IIRC you can do this with VLC. if you don't need the system tray notification mplayer should be nearer on WMP than VLC |
| 10:20.54 | jelly | hanibanaa: you can hunt for an applet for your player and your desktop environment (Gnome?) |
| 10:21.04 | liable | wohnout: no, you need to edit menu.list and rerun grub, and edit fstab |
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| 10:21.22 | hanibanaa | jelly: no KDE4 |
| 10:21.29 | jelly | whatever |
| 10:21.38 | icebubble | uname -r told me this: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-amd64 |
| 10:21.45 | liable | yeah, vlc goes into taskbar |
| 10:21.46 | wohnout | liable: but if i run update-grub after it (which runs apt) it always put there old version |
| 10:21.55 | icebubble | what does etch n half means ? |
| 10:22.05 | liable | wohnout: you need to edit the automagic bit |
| 10:22.15 | wohnout | automagic bit? |
| 10:22.25 | fluffymuffins | jelly, Bushmills: http://pastebin.ca/1880316v |
| 10:22.28 | jelly | liable: it has a systray icon, but taskbar? |
| 10:22.38 | fluffymuffins | my errors with tftp |
| 10:22.39 | liable | paste your menu.list and i'll show you |
| 10:22.55 | wohnout | liable: oh i see |
| 10:23.00 | liable | jelly: yikes, whats the difference between the two? |
| 10:23.00 | wohnout | first read then ask |
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| 10:23.04 | wohnout | liable: thanks |
| 10:23.08 | liable | np |
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| 10:23.15 | jelly | liable: systray is the place for all the tiny icons |
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| 10:23.36 | liable | and taskbar is? |
| 10:24.02 | liable | i really should brush up on the jargon for this one day.. |
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| 10:24.12 | jelly | a bar with buttons for opened tas^H^H^Hwindows |
| 10:24.18 | FallenHitokiri | liable: that bar that shouws your running applications. |
| 10:24.24 | liable | oh right |
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| 10:24.31 | liable | ok, yeah, it goes in systray |
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| 10:25.42 | hanibanaa | all go to systray: smplayer, kaffeine, vlc... I meant something else. |
| 10:26.01 | WormFood | how do I tell if my mirror (apt) is up to date? |
| 10:26.19 | liable | by running update |
| 10:26.37 | WormFood | wrong answer liable |
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| 10:27.02 | liable | no |
| 10:27.08 | liable | badly worded question :P |
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| 10:28.13 | WormFood | then how should I word it? |
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| 10:29.01 | WormFood | mkfs.ext3: /lib/libblkid.so.1: version `BLKID_2.17' not found (required by mkfs.ext3) http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=583910 says "Fix is already uploaded to unstable....", but I'm not getting it in my mirror |
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| 10:29.33 | liable | right, much better |
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| 10:30.13 | liable | by checking the dates of the last Packages.gz between yours and debians repo |
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| 10:30.45 | WormFood | is anyone else getting a seg fault with gthumb on testing (squeeze)? |
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| 10:31.56 | jelly | WormFood: apt-cache policy libblkid1 doesn't list 2.17? |
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| 10:32.21 | WormFood | correct jelly |
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| 10:33.27 | WormFood | I don't mind being a little behind the main repo, but it is damn frustrating when I can't format a disk |
| 10:33.48 | WormFood | what repo can I add to get the libblkid1 I need to work? |
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| 10:33.51 | liable | if your mirror is that slow, i would ditch it |
| 10:34.18 | WormFood | right liable....trying to find a more up-to-date mirror now....you have any suggestions? |
| 10:34.48 | liable | wohnout: are you using your isp mirror or one from debian.org/mirrors? |
| 10:34.53 | liable | WormFood: ^^ |
| 10:35.03 | liable | wohnout: sorry, nicktab borkage |
| 10:35.07 | wohnout | :) |
| 10:35.08 | wohnout | np |
| 10:35.13 | WormFood | i'm using one from netselect-apt |
| 10:36.06 | WormFood | which happens to be ftp.hk.debian.org |
| 10:36.09 | liable | if thats the case, i wouldn't be surpised if for some reason that upload got blocked or something |
| 10:36.39 | liable | you are using unstable right? |
| 10:37.11 | WormFood | testing |
| 10:37.23 | WormFood | I'm using unusable (unstable) on my other computer |
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| 10:37.55 | liable | well, its in unstable, the latest changelog mentions it |
| 10:38.01 | liable | you just have to wait :P |
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| 10:38.34 | WormFood | d'oh...that url I mentioned before said it is uploaded to unstable....I misread it...I was thinking "testing" |
| 10:38.52 | liable | look at its depends, you could prolly install it |
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| 10:39.45 | WormFood | fuck it. I'll just format the drive on another machine. I was just trying to get my install working....I was thinking it was uploaded to testing already, and I was just missing it. |
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| 10:49.38 | nsadmin | well ##networking is useless... how do I start network-manager? |
| 10:50.05 | liable | is it saying its disabled? |
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| 10:51.25 | liable | if not, then you start it from the menu... |
| 10:53.14 | icebubble | when upgrading from etch to lenny, you first install a new kernel or the packages ? |
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| 10:53.36 | liable | !release notes |
| 10:53.36 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, lenny release notes is at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/releasenotes . See also http://bugs.debian.org/release-notes and http://wiki.debian.org/NewInLenny . Also ask me about <i-g>, <installer firmware>, <etch->lenny key>, <errata>. |
| 10:54.03 | icebubble | liable, already read it twice, but I'm not sure. |
| 10:54.03 | liable | icebubble: ^^ read it, libc6 and aptitude first iirc |
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| 10:54.14 | icebubble | liable, I know |
| 10:54.17 | nsadmin | liable: so I found kwifimanager, started that, and discovered in the process that as user, running iwlist scan returns no scan results, but as root it does... do I have to be in a particular group? |
| 10:54.24 | icebubble | liable, just wondering about the kernel |
| 10:54.59 | liable | icebubble: do packages then kernel, preferably reboot before kernel to make sure all is fine |
| 10:55.34 | icebubble | liable, ok thx a LOT |
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| 10:56.43 | liable | nsadmin: i'm surpised iwlist even returned. it needs root perms to talk to the chip |
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| 10:57.08 | Imran-UK | hi, has anyone set-up debian lenny systems to auto-update themselves? |
| 10:57.29 | Imran-UK | i'm using apticron to notify me but i want some way of automating the updates being installed |
| 10:58.04 | nsadmin | so by extension any network manager needs root? |
| 10:58.16 | icebubble | liable, do you think it make a big difference that I upgrade from etchnhalf to lenny, and not etch ? |
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| 10:59.33 | liable | nsadmin: was just thinking about that, i dont know how NM works around it, ut you need to be in netdev group with it |
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| 10:59.50 | nsadmin | netdev, ok |
| 11:00.35 | liable | icebubble: nope, etchnhalf is mostly just a newer kernel iirc |
| 11:02.44 | nsadmin | the manual of my wap54g linksys says clients have to be in ______ mode, otherwise the wap will not recognize them (one sec) |
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| 11:03.11 | liable | managed mode |
| 11:03.24 | liable | which is default |
| 11:04.24 | nsadmin | infrastructure mode |
| 11:04.30 | nsadmin | is that the same as managed? |
| 11:04.57 | liable | infrastructure mode sounds like AP mode which is the card acting as an AP |
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| 11:06.19 | thrashold | Does anyone how to delay audio and video in gxine? I'm tired of mplayer |
| 11:06.25 | nsadmin | dpkg got an unaffiliated cloak? |
| 11:06.27 | dpkg | nsadmin: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 11:06.42 | liable | has for ages |
| 11:06.56 | liable | a couple o years iirc |
| 11:07.35 | thrashold | Or suggest any frontend to xine which can delay audio? |
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| 11:08.09 | liable | have you perused its man page? |
| 11:08.36 | thrashold | What use would that be? |
| 11:08.49 | nsadmin | ooh, I'm connected |
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| 11:11.33 | thrashold | Any frontend for xine that respects the configuration in ~/.xine, and doesn't suck? (gxine doesn't seem to care about ~/.xine/keymap) |
| 11:11.58 | nsadmin | hehe... my net is up :) |
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| 11:21.09 | liable | !qotd0 |
| 11:21.10 | dpkg | <themill> dooglus: are you in the plugdev group? <dooglus> themill: I'm not affiliated to any organization, and I'm not interested thank you. |
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| 11:21.20 | liable | hehe |
| 11:23.01 | abrotman | that guy was at least good for quotes |
| 11:23.26 | jelly | only 144000 people will be hotpluggable! Join now while supplies last. |
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| 11:23.54 | abrotman | that's how the control the population |
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| 11:28.21 | jelly | best to make third world countries use debian then |
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| 11:48.17 | cast | dumbass question...installed pidgin, which one is msn? |
| 11:48.26 | cast | [protocol] |
| 11:48.45 | abrotman | MSN ? |
| 11:48.47 | milligan_ | the one called MSN? :P |
| 11:48.53 | mzb | the butterfly ;) |
| 11:48.56 | error4o4 | migrating to another server... wondering how to redirect emails to the other server while the old one is still up.. Can I just point the MX records to the new server ? |
| 11:49.01 | cast | strangely not on the list |
| 11:49.23 | abrotman | cast: hint hint! swithc to XMPP |
| 11:49.29 | milligan_ | error4o4, changing the MX will for sure send e-mails to a new server. Make sure accounts exist on the new server to avoid bounces. |
| 11:49.49 | cast | bitlbee it is! |
| 11:49.50 | error4o4 | milligan_: ok, done that. great |
| 11:50.05 | milligan_ | error4o4, or .. you could redirect on your current server to avoid the updatetime of DNS |
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| 11:50.27 | error4o4 | milligan_: i guess that would require mail server tweaks |
| 11:50.35 | milligan_ | error4o4, or even better, do both .. that way e-mail will be sent to your new server right away, and you don't have to worry about DNS not being updated all over. |
| 11:50.36 | mzb | cast: msn not working on latest bitlbee (afaik) |
| 11:50.46 | milligan_ | error4o4, depending on your MTA, minial tweaking. |
| 11:50.55 | milligan_ | error4o4, if you run postfix it would be done in about 20 seconds. |
| 11:50.59 | error4o4 | milligan_: sounds good, using postfix |
| 11:51.04 | error4o4 | milligan_: yea postfix :) |
| 11:51.04 | cast | mzb: good ol msn, one of my most hated protocols |
| 11:51.13 | milligan_ | *hardon* I love postfix |
| 11:51.18 | WormFood | error4o4, you could configure your old email server to relay to the new server |
| 11:51.40 | WormFood | I love qmail....been working with that since the 1990s....low resources, and rock solid. |
| 11:51.53 | milligan_ | error4o4, in /etc/postfix/transport , add domain.tld smtp:new.mailserver.tld |
| 11:51.56 | mzb | cast, everything _but_ msn working for me on bitlbee ... having been without yahoo for some time ;) |
| 11:52.04 | milligan_ | error4o4, then run postmap /etc/postfix/transport |
| 11:52.12 | WormFood | mzb, check http://pidgin.im/ or #pidgin |
| 11:52.20 | mzb | not that I really use them ;) ... but it's nice to know they're there |
| 11:52.25 | WormFood | mzb, MSN is a shit protocol anyways |
| 11:52.38 | error4o4 | milligan_: thx a lot guys :) |
| 11:52.39 | mzb | WormFood, I don't have any interest in pidgin, thanks |
| 11:52.56 | WormFood | did you know, that the first versions of MSN used a modified IRC protocol? |
| 11:53.00 | milligan_ | error4o4, been suckered into exchange .. or just hardware upgrades? :) |
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| 11:53.40 | error4o4 | milligan_: 'hardware' upgrades :) |
| 11:53.57 | milligan_ | phew - grats ;) |
| 11:56.04 | mzb | bitlbee has completed my life ... now I can ignore people in all protocols using a single client! ;)) |
| 11:56.43 | JyZyXEL | bitlbee is dead |
| 11:57.08 | mzb | haven't noticed any funny smells |
| 11:57.09 | JyZyXEL | minbif is there to replace it |
| 11:57.33 | CissWit | +1 for minbif :) |
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| 11:57.52 | JyZyXEL | they even have webcam support :-D |
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| 11:58.13 | abrotman | eh .. Doesn't everyone's mom use IRC? |
| 11:58.24 | mzb | ooh ... something else that sounds cool ... that I'll (also) never use ;) |
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| 11:58.58 | jelly | abrotman: your mom does! |
| 11:59.22 | mzb | lol, webcam in ascii art |
| 11:59.29 | mzb | *sigh* |
| 11:59.46 | liable | someone missed a yomama chance.. :P |
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| 12:00.51 | milligan_ | use http://tmsnc.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html if you're pro. |
| 12:01.09 | mzb | meh, looks like a nice enough toy, but bitlbee works for me |
| 12:01.40 | milligan_ | tmsnc would be for chatting up young hotties, and having the wife believe the comp is compiling or something like that |
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| 12:03.51 | JyZyXEL | if i apt-get install linux-source-2.6 whats the fastest way to compile it? |
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| 12:04.21 | mzb | milligan_, assuming you don't want to see the hottie? How do you know if you're upgrading? ;)) |
| 12:04.56 | mzb | speaking of which ... she's due home any minute ... |
| 12:05.11 | milligan_ | What, the upgrade? |
| 12:05.15 | abrotman | anyways ... |
| 12:05.30 | mzb | yeah, perhaps it's a downgrade ;) |
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| 12:06.41 | Brklyn | hi everyone.... one quick question, I'm trying to bootstrap a debian.... and I'm wondering what the right target architecture for x86_64 is?? amd64 or ia64? |
| 12:06.55 | JyZyXEL | amd64 |
| 12:07.10 | abrotman | Brklyn: i386 or amd64 .. either will work |
| 12:07.54 | Brklyn | thought so, ia64 is for the itaniums and server cores, right? |
| 12:08.02 | abrotman | it's for itanium, yes |
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| 12:10.14 | JyZyXEL | how do i compile the linux-source-2.6 package? |
| 12:13.15 | smacnay | abrotman, heh, my mom is still afraid that touching any key will delete everything on her hard drive. |
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| 12:15.50 | isfranc | hello |
| 12:15.56 | jelly | dpkg: tell JyZyXEL about kernel compile |
| 12:16.04 | jelly | dpkg: tell JyZyXEL about make-kpkg |
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| 12:17.33 | Imran-UK | Brklyn, you'll get better performance with amd64, there are kernels compiled for that architecture for example |
| 12:18.36 | jelly | Imran-UK: that depends on the particular workload |
| 12:19.09 | abrotman | and if you're using third-party binary-only stuff, the hassle doesn't outweigh the benefit |
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| 12:20.01 | JyZyXEL | what the fucking hell i need 855MB of build-deps |
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| 12:20.52 | Imran-UK | jelly, we have a xen host based on amd64, its a sensible choice for that i guess |
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| 12:21.23 | Imran-UK | i've always chosen the proper arch where i can rather than i386 |
| 12:21.25 | jelly | Imran-UK: if you're ram limited, i386 might be a somewhat better choice |
| 12:21.28 | themill | JyZyXEL: (a) ask sensible questions that people can ask and (b) ask nicely. Take a brief spell from #debian to work out how you are going to do that. |
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| 12:29.48 | ScottG | I am having problems getting a printer set up. Here is some dmesg output: http://privatepaste.com/bb2bdd6483 . I get a notification box every so often saying that: Printer '_5000_Series' may not be connected |
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| 12:31.04 | hrist | hi, any chance that someone here knows of what is happening to http://www.debian-multimedia.org? |
| 12:31.20 | jelly | !dmm down |
| 12:31.20 | dpkg | well, dmm down is try a mirror in the meantime: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.debian-multimedia.org/debian-m.php |
| 12:31.26 | hrist | thanks |
| 12:31.38 | hrist | hah, hi jelly |
| 12:31.54 | jelly | I knew you looked familiar. |
| 12:31.59 | abrotman | hrist: use a mirror |
| 12:31.59 | hrist | :) so did I |
| 12:32.16 | hrist | abrotman: i'm running a mirror.. i'm just a bit slow in the morning :D |
| 12:32.31 | jelly | I'm mirroring a mirror. |
| 12:32.33 | Posterdati | hi |
| 12:32.33 | hrist | figured that without upstream stuff happening my mirror won't become out-of-date anyhow |
| 12:32.49 | Posterdati | please how can I force to reinstall config files for a package? |
| 12:32.52 | smacnay | used to compile his own but now happily uses the debian packaged kernels |
| 12:33.07 | abrotman | !tell Posterdati about confmiss |
| 12:33.11 | jelly | hrist: well, if you did rsync --delete, your mirror might become suddenly empty (and equal to the source) |
| 12:33.22 | hrist | hmmmmm :D |
| 12:33.24 | hrist | i'll check that |
| 12:33.26 | smacnay | they just work and and I don't spend hours configuring and cursing if an option was missed. |
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| 12:34.10 | k\t | smacnay: good_call |
| 12:34.12 | hrist | jelly: bleh, of course I used --delete -.- |
| 12:34.16 | jelly | yay. New: 8292 files, 5 symlinks; 6271037320 bytes transferred in 8920 seconds (686.6K/s) |
| 12:35.45 | jelly | well if it's not merely a technical difficulty, at least there are deb-src to continue the effort from |
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| 12:37.44 | k\t | debian-multimedia down? |
| 12:38.04 | liable | i think so |
| 12:38.12 | liable | someone was saying that a while ago |
| 12:38.46 | k\t | well not down but missing the Packages.gz file in: http://debian-multimedia.org/dists/experimental/main/binary-i386/ |
| 12:39.26 | abrotman | yes, lots of stuff missing, use a mirror that hasn't synced yet |
| 12:39.42 | tomatto_ | please, what name has browser mozilla firefox? |
| 12:40.00 | hrist | iceweasel i think |
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| 12:41.08 | abrotman | yes, iceweasel |
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| 12:43.31 | Posterdati | abrotman: thanks |
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| 12:59.18 | ScottG | Hm, the CD seems to play fine on Windows |
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| 13:03.00 | r121 | Hi, I'm trying to upgrade a package (e2fsprogs) on my squeeze system from the sid repositories to hopefully fix a bug (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=583551). Can I just upgrade the one package without also upgrading the about 80 other packages to their sid versions, as apt-get wants to do? |
| 13:03.06 | anigma | I was thinking about downloading the DVD 1 iso file from debian.org -- and my question is am I able to somehow test debian (like a live CD) with the media that I'm downloading? or should I download a seperate disc for the live CD version? |
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| 13:03.35 | \amethyst | !debian-live |
| 13:03.35 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. As of squeeze, the images can be installed with d-i. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/FAQ http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.oftc.net. |
| 13:04.00 | \amethyst | the DVD doesn't have a live system (well, it does, but a very limited one that's designed for installing only) |
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| 13:05.08 | anigma | alright |
| 13:05.09 | anigma | thanks |
| 13:06.47 | Appetite | how do i disable ctrl-alt-delete from shutting down/restarting? i know i saw it somewhere before but can't remember. |
| 13:07.25 | nkuttler | Appetite: man 5 inittab |
| 13:07.33 | Appetite | thanks nkuttler |
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| 13:10.50 | Appetite | nkuttler: is there aa way to 'reload' the inittab to register that i commented the line out? |
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| 13:12.36 | nkuttler | Appetite: man init |
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| 13:13.55 | Appetite | thanks |
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| 13:21.45 | ajcc | Is there a way to check for updates that doesn't require super user privileges? As apt-get dist-upgrade -s does, but for users |
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| 13:22.51 | jelly | ajcc: for a particular package, you could use apt-cache policy packagename |
| 13:23.23 | ajcc | jelly: I see, but for all packages? |
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| 13:23.59 | jelly | doesn't know the answer |
| 13:24.04 | jordanm | why should users get to see what the pending security upgrades that haven't gone in yet are? |
| 13:24.38 | jelly | jordanm: some users like to be informed of their system's general bugginess |
| 13:24.45 | ajcc | jordanm: because I want to script a little script that tells me to upgrade, since I intend to use a lighter WM |
| 13:24.59 | ajcc | without the niffty update notification thinngy in the dock |
| 13:25.01 | jordanm | ajcc: use apt-cron or apticron and it will email you |
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| 13:25.27 | jelly | since there wouldn't be any changes done to the system, it'd make sense for a --dry-run operation to be doable |
| 13:26.11 | ajcc | apt-get needs to lock onto it's magical file for most things it seems |
| 13:27.00 | jordanm | looks like the aptitude UI will show it to a normal user |
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| 13:27.35 | jordanm | I just opened it and there is a "security updates" section that includes today's libc6 upgrade |
| 13:28.03 | ajcc | noticed that too, but I can't find a way to put that into standard output with aptitude |
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| 13:28.43 | jordanm | I am sticking to my apt-cron suggestion |
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| 13:31.09 | ajcc | jordanm: I'll fall back to that one if I can't find one not including setting up unix mail |
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| 13:32.18 | jordanm | ajcc: my email setups typically consist of dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config; then setting my login info in /etc/exim4/passwd.client. its ather easy for a basic relay to smarthost setup |
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| 13:33.21 | ajcc | jordanm: I guess the days of sendmail are thankfully long gone then :) |
| 13:33.24 | nascentmind | I have setup a personal repository of my packages but when I try to install via apt-get install I get-> failed to fetch ... Size mismatch. Why is that? its an http site. |
| 13:33.42 | jordanm | ajcc: being that I am sendmail admin at work, not quite yet :) |
| 13:34.06 | ajcc | jordanm: I lift my hat in honor |
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| 13:36.15 | rsmarples | hello. Is there a way of suppressing a lintian tag in debian/rules ? |
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| 13:41.14 | saulo | Hello! My apache default conf deny users who reload the page a little fast. But I'm in a production place and we need sometimes press F5 to test page changes, and Apache deny my clients (Apache 2.2.15-5) |
| 13:41.19 | saulo | What Apache conf does this? |
| 13:41.35 | jelly | rsmarples: http://lintian.debian.org/manual/ch2.html#s2.4 |
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| 13:42.13 | jelly | [blah blah blah] debian/source.lintian-overrides [blah blah] |
| 13:42.32 | abrotman | saulo: dpkg -l apache2.2-common | tail -1 |
| 13:42.55 | rapid_fire | hi, How can I set my interface so that it forwards all traffic directly to gw in debian? |
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| 13:43.00 | rapid_fire | without iptables |
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| 13:43.30 | abrotman | iptables |
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| 13:43.42 | rapid_fire | abrotman, yes |
| 13:43.57 | rapid_fire | abrotman, I don't want to block traffic using iptables |
| 13:44.05 | saulo | abrotman: ii apache2.2-common 2.2.15-5 Apache HTTP Server common files |
| 13:44.06 | abrotman | i didn't say to block traffic? |
| 13:44.14 | rapid_fire | abrotman, I want to do this strictly using interface config and route commands |
| 13:44.18 | jelly | rapid_fire: why? |
| 13:44.30 | jelly | !wayttd rapid_fire |
| 13:44.31 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, rapid_fire? |
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| 13:44.55 | abrotman | saulo: look at your enabled modules .. see if there is anything in there .. also do you have something like fail2ban running ? |
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| 13:46.58 | rapid_fire | jelly, My server is having trouble reaching other servers directly on its local network. So lets say I set the interface eth0 to be 192.168.3.43 netmask 255.255.255.0 and route 192.168.3.1. Then all traffic going for 192.168.3.0 will not get forwarded to the gw and will be local. I want for that interface to not send traffic wihtout it passing through the gw. So setup the interface or routes so that traffic => 192.168.3.0/24 goes through gw |
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| 13:47.45 | rapid_fire | I tried setting interface to 192.168.3.43 netmask 255.255.255.255 but then I cannot speak to gw |
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| 13:48.13 | jelly | rapid_fire: oh. Define route for ...3.1 via that iface, and delete the route for 192.168.3.0/24 |
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| 13:49.59 | saulo | abrotman: Yes, I have fail2ban, and: :/home/saulo# a2dismod |
| 13:50.00 | saulo | Your choices are: actions alias auth_basic authn_file authnz_ldap authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_user autoindex cgi dav dav_svn deflate dir env ldap ldap_userdir mime mod-evasive mod-security negotiation perl php5 reqtimeout rewrite setenvif status unique_id |
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| 13:50.27 | rapid_fire | jelly, now I cannot reach the router |
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| 13:53.14 | jelly | rapid_fire: pastebin your "ip a" and "ip r" output. Or "ifconfig -a" and "route -n" if you don't have iproute package installed |
| 13:53.49 | jelly | use correct /24 netmask |
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| 13:54.05 | rapid_fire | jelly, I tried adding route -host 192.168.3.1 dev eth0 but that didn't help |
| 13:55.02 | jelly | Linux won't do that if your netmask is incorrect |
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| 13:56.15 | saulo | abrotman: sounds like disable mod-evasive solved my problem... I will test some more time to confirm... Thanks for direction. :) |
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| 14:03.06 | rsmarples | jelly: thanks |
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| 14:03.22 | rapid_fire | jelly, http://pastebin.com/WFcUJyBe |
| 14:03.30 | rapid_fire | I know there is a way to doing this |
| 14:03.32 | rapid_fire | I just forgot |
| 14:04.19 | rapid_fire | amendment submited |
| 14:08.01 | rapid_fire | Jelly, I think I figured out why it doesn't work |
| 14:08.17 | rapid_fire | Recvd needs same routing table |
| 14:08.24 | rapid_fire | otherwise it doesn't add that extra hop |
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| 14:10.54 | arafangion | Is it possible to install Debian from within windows XP? It's proving difficult to get to the BIOS screen (to, eg, boot from some other media). |
| 14:11.05 | arafangion | I want to install Debian on a somewhat broken eeePC. |
| 14:11.58 | jordanm | !eeepc |
| 14:11.58 | dpkg | The Eee PC (aka RM ASUS Minibook) is a <netbook> designed by ASUS. Linux models are supplied with <Xandros> which is not supported in #debian, join #eeepc on irc.freenode.net for support. To install Debian, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC for installation and configuration details. See also <atl2>, <atl1c>. Mailing list: http://alioth.debian.org/mail/?group_id=31309 #debian-eeepc on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 14:14.23 | jelly | arafangion: http://goodbye-windows.com/ ? |
| 14:14.39 | arafangion | jordanm: I was hoping for something like syslinux or the like. |
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| 14:15.04 | arafangion | Jordanm: The part that is broken is the keyboard, and the BIOS has been set up for "fast boot" or something - not enough time for an external keyboard to react. |
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| 14:15.54 | arafangion | jelly: Looks perfect. :) |
| 14:16.13 | jelly | arafangion: does the machine not boot from usb automatically when it's present? |
| 14:16.51 | jelly | arafangion: if you're not careful you might end up with a completely unusable machine |
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| 14:17.14 | arafangion | jelly: If it boots from USB, then not a lot has changed. :) |
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| 14:17.34 | arafangion | It's an eeePC, with a broken keyboard. How useless can you get? |
| 14:17.47 | Milp_main | hows that useless? you can still use an external one lol |
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| 14:17.52 | Milp_main | or get a replacement |
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| 14:18.31 | jelly | arafangion: if it boots from usb, you can use a liveusb distro or a usb-based installer, and also you have a way to recover from a broken HDD boot loader |
| 14:18.38 | anomaly | if I wanted a searchable database of products, would not mysql be the way to go? |
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| 14:19.08 | anomaly | ideally, it would be searched through a webpage. |
| 14:19.21 | jelly | anomaly: an application would be the way to go. Backend is less important, it could be a SQL server or something else. |
| 14:19.32 | jordanm | you could use any relational database really |
| 14:19.36 | arafangion | goes and tries a random old USB stick he has. |
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| 14:20.04 | jordanm | jelly: bad! s/SQL server/some other oss solution/ |
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| 14:20.23 | jelly | jordanm: I didn't say "MS SQL" |
| 14:20.29 | anomaly | jelly as I say, ideally I would like people in the office to be able to load a webpage to search for prices of products. :) |
| 14:20.46 | anomaly | yet, I could build a program as well I presume, and disseminate it. |
| 14:20.52 | Appetite | Can i mount nfs in windows, or do i have to install a samba server? |
| 14:20.54 | jordanm | jelly: ah, well, people commonly refer to MS's implementation as "SQL server" |
| 14:20.56 | jelly | anomaly: so you need an application. |
| 14:21.18 | jordanm | Appetite: it depends on the version and type. I would ask ##windows |
| 14:21.35 | Appetite | jordanm: ah i didn't know where to ask since it's being hosted on debian, so ok :) |
| 14:22.22 | anomaly | jelly I have been thinking about picking up python or ruby.. I suppose it is a good excuse to use it :) |
| 14:22.36 | anomaly | jelly and jordanm thank you both for your help/ |
| 14:22.56 | jelly | anomaly: sure, sounds like a nice beginner project |
| 14:23.11 | jelly | (also, flat files ftw ;-) |
| 14:24.12 | arafangion | Two things to avoid: XML, and CSV. |
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| 14:27.26 | edwin_quijada | Why when I use mc I get letters instead of normal lines I have installed libncurses and nothing hapeens |
| 14:28.03 | arafangion | edwin_quijada: Sounds like the wrong termcap file is being used. Which terminal emulator are you using and what does $TERM say? |
| 14:29.03 | edwin_quijada | xterm |
| 14:29.08 | edwin_quijada | putty |
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| 14:30.07 | jelly | edwin_quijada: terminal emulator is xterm and TERM=putty ? |
| 14:30.15 | edwin_quijada | yes |
| 14:30.19 | jelly | why? |
| 14:30.29 | jordanm | edwin_quijada: usually its the other way around |
| 14:30.31 | arafangion | That could be the problem. |
| 14:30.41 | jordanm | TERM=xterm emulator is putty... |
| 14:30.50 | jelly | that's not what he said |
| 14:31.03 | jordanm | jelly: I know, but its probably what it should be |
| 14:31.12 | lagorgon | Hello, I have installed the ati driver following the debian wiki but my games won't start. Also I can't open ati catalyst control center. How can I fix the problem? |
| 14:31.29 | jelly | I'm trusting the user to know what they're saying, or to say they don't know. ;-) |
| 14:31.47 | edwin_quijada | jordanm : u right , I had a mistake |
| 14:31.57 | jordanm | jelly: and thats about when smoke begins to roll out of their box? :p |
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| 14:32.25 | piklu | I am running KVM to host clients on a server |
| 14:32.39 | piklu | they are not able to connect to webmin ( port 10000 )..... |
| 14:32.53 | piklu | while SSH and ICMP is working fine...what could be the problem ? how to check ? |
| 14:35.03 | ScottG | Hey, I heard that the multimedia repo is down, but I am trying mirrors with 404's too |
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| 14:40.09 | jelly | !webmin |
| 14:40.10 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://bugs.debian.org/343897 about the removal from Debian. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. |
| 14:40.47 | jelly | ScottG: it's possible the mirrors are slowly syncing up with the now-empty source |
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| 14:41.32 | ScottG | jelly: Yea :( |
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| 14:41.47 | lagorgon | Hello, I have installed the ati driver following the debian wiki but my games won't start. Also I can't open ati catalyst control center. How can I fix the problem? |
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| 14:41.53 | arafangion | Why is the multimedia mirror down? |
| 14:41.54 | jelly | that's why I mirrored a mirror while I still could |
| 14:42.34 | rzeka | How can I check userlist (logged and not logged in) in debian? |
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| 14:43.10 | arafangion | cat /etc/passwd might work... together with who |
| 14:43.43 | craigevil | ScottG: try using http://mirror.home-dn.net/debian-multimedia/ just ran apt-get update and it worked |
| 14:44.00 | ScottG | craigevil: Thanks I'll try right now |
| 14:44.51 | ScottG | craigevil: 404 Not Found [IP: 88.191.11.98 80] |
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| 14:48.53 | qq- | ScottG, works here , seems you are behind a firewall etc .. |
| 14:48.59 | craigevil | ScottG: its working here i just installed a couple of packages to test, also ran traceroute and ping with no issues |
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| 14:49.33 | jelly | craigevil: same IP address for mirror.home-dn.net? |
| 14:49.47 | arafangion | ScottG: I can see adobe's debs there, so it's definetly isn't empty. |
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| 14:50.26 | craigevil | jelly: traceroute to mirror.home-dn.net (88.191.11.98) |
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| 14:51.09 | ScottG | craigevil: arafangion: So what am I doing wrong? I put it in my source.list then run an aptitude update |
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| 14:51.29 | arafangion | ScottG: I just clicked on it, came up in my browser with contents in it. |
| 14:52.37 | ScottG | arafangion: It does that for me as well. |
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| 14:54.51 | jelly | ScottG: paste the exact deb line present in your sources |
| 14:55.10 | ScottG | deb http://mirror.home-dn.net/debian-multimedia/ squeeze/updates main non-free |
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| 14:55.18 | ScottG | and deb-src |
| 14:55.20 | anisfarhana | hello! |
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| 14:55.28 | jelly | ScottG: get rid of /updates |
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| 14:55.46 | ScottG | jelly: Alright. Oh yuck why is that there |
| 14:55.47 | anisfarhana | anyone have experience compiling bnc2.9.4 with ssl supports ? |
| 14:55.59 | lagorgon | Is there someone familiar with Ati drivers on debian lenny? |
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| 14:56.35 | qq- | ScottG, use ... 'squeeze main non-free' |
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| 14:57.15 | qq- | ah just said by jelly |
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| 14:58.00 | ScottG | qq-: Yea thanks though |
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| 15:00.52 | ScottG | jelly: I get a problem with the GPG key |
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| 15:01.30 | qq- | installdebian-multimedia-keyring |
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| 15:03.09 | piklu | hello |
| 15:03.11 | piklu | everybody |
| 15:03.22 | jelly | dance |
| 15:03.23 | piklu | my firewall is blocking a centos kvm vps for 10000 port |
| 15:03.35 | ScottG | qq-: Thanks again! |
| 15:03.37 | piklu | can anybody give a little hints..or something |
| 15:04.05 | jelly | piklu: apart from "fix your firewall"? |
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| 15:04.32 | piklu | jelly: a little noob, give link or tell what to do |
| 15:04.36 | Godslastering | in lshw -html, what is Capacity on the Processor? |
| 15:04.45 | Godslastering | i have 2.8GHz processor but it shows Capacity is 4GHz.. what is this? |
| 15:05.15 | arafangion | Godslastering: Where do you see that? What is the exact line? |
| 15:05.31 | jelly | piklu: you'll have to figure out where your firewall (iptables) definitions are. For starters, let's verify it's them that are actually causing your problem. Pastebin the output of "iptables-save" command |
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| 15:05.45 | Godslastering | under the id: cpu section, it shows capacity: 4GHz , arafangion |
| 15:05.52 | Godslastering | but it's a 2.80GHz processor |
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| 15:07.02 | piklu | http://pastebin.com/hGSPXgE6 |
| 15:07.08 | jelly | piklu: what are you trying to do: access tcp port :10000 on your debian machine from a centos vps? access tcp port :10000 _on_ a centos vps from your debian machine? |
| 15:07.30 | qq- | Godslastering, http://www.watsonwalker.com/lspr.html#Capacity |
| 15:07.35 | piklu | centos VPS runs on debian machine, webmin on the centos VPS is not able to be accessed from internet |
| 15:07.41 | Godslastering | http://www.watsonwalker.com/lspr.html#Capacity |
| 15:07.44 | Godslastering | woops |
| 15:07.57 | Godslastering | not used to using putty, accidently pasted ;p |
| 15:08.06 | jelly | piklu: ok. That machine does not have any iptables rules configured. Is this the host? |
| 15:08.24 | lagorgon | I have installed the ati driver following the debian wiki but my games won't start. Also I can't open ati catalyst control center. How can I fix the problem? |
| 15:08.59 | piklu | jelly: yes |
| 15:09.15 | jelly | piklu: your Debian host firewall settings are not to be blamed. |
| 15:09.21 | jelly | it's passing all traffic |
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| 15:10.07 | piklu | jelly: the vps ? |
| 15:10.17 | jelly | piklu: The host. |
| 15:10.41 | jordanm | lagorgon: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log and the output for glxinfo | grep -i direct |
| 15:10.46 | jelly | piklu: inspect the guest machine iptables rules as well, and if there's more output than those pastebinned lines, ask in a centos related channel where/how to configure those. |
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| 15:11.04 | lagorgon | jordanm, Ok, one second. |
| 15:11.34 | piklu | jelly: okay, i will |
| 15:12.11 | piklu | jelly: another question, i just ran tcpdump | grep < filter >, it consumed like 1 GB of memory, and this is not free now, any command to free memory |
| 15:12.35 | soulpro | quit |
| 15:12.41 | jelly | piklu: kill the processes? |
| 15:12.47 | piklu | i already exited it |
| 15:13.00 | jelly | then it freed the memory. |
| 15:13.28 | piklu | jelly: but i do not see it |
| 15:13.39 | jelly | piklu: do not see what? |
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| 15:14.10 | lagorgon | jordanm, I opened /var/log/Xorg.0.log with nano but do you know how can I select all the text? |
| 15:14.25 | piklu | mem use before tcpdump : 486 MB, after : 1385 MB |
| 15:14.27 | jelly | dpkg, tell piklu about free ram |
| 15:14.28 | piklu | and keeps there |
| 15:14.28 | lagorgon | jordanm, I can not scroll... |
| 15:14.38 | jordanm | !pastebinit |
| 15:14.38 | dpkg | i guess pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>; especially convenient if you don't have a graphical interface. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list" ; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". The default pastebin is broken in Lenny's pastebinit version (BTS #572728), use e.g. "pastebinit -b http://yourpaste.net" |
| 15:15.00 | jordanm | lagorgon: just use pastebinit |
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| 15:15.52 | lagorgon | jordanm, I know...but I am saying the output of that file in nano is very big...a lot of lines and I can't select it all. |
| 15:16.26 | Godslastering | lagorgon: pastebinit /path/to/the/file |
| 15:16.45 | lagorgon | Godslastering, ok, thanks |
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| 15:17.15 | thrashold | What is the thing that checks for updates on login, and how do you remove it? |
| 15:17.18 | jelly | piklu: read what dpkg told you in private about the output of command "free" and make sure you're interpreting it correctly |
| 15:17.28 | abrotman | thrashold: in X ? |
| 15:17.40 | thrashold | Virtual console |
| 15:17.45 | lagorgon | Godslastering, bash: pastebinit: command not found |
| 15:17.50 | jordanm | !installit |
| 15:17.51 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! *** Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
| 15:17.54 | abrotman | thrashold: at the command line? |
| 15:18.18 | thrashold | I had to do an emergency login during extra high harddrive load, and after watiing for 3 minutes I pressed control C, and there was a Python traceback popping up about update-notifier |
| 15:18.24 | thrashold | I want to kill this so I can make my login faster |
| 15:18.51 | lagorgon | ohh I have got it |
| 15:18.56 | jordanm | thrashold: update-manager and update-notifier |
| 15:18.59 | thrashold | It running apt-cache policy |
| 15:19.06 | lagorgon | jordanm, One second..I will paste you the link |
| 15:19.36 | abrotman | didn't know update-manager had a CLI component also |
| 15:19.39 | thrashold | jordanm: OK, I'll look into those, is removing them safe, or I should aim to disable them in some file? |
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| 15:20.35 | lagorgon | jordanm, http://pastebin.com/xNm9EWL7 |
| 15:20.52 | jordanm | didn't know we were talking CLI |
| 15:21.32 | piklu | jelly: ye |
| 15:21.37 | piklu | jelly: yes |
| 15:21.38 | jordanm | lagorgon: where is the top half of the file? did you delete some of it when you were in nano? |
| 15:21.51 | piklu | jelly: but i am using my monitors in proxmox to check cpu and memory usage |
| 15:22.08 | jelly | I have no idea what proxmox is. |
| 15:22.13 | lagorgon | jordanm, no, If i do nano path, there is all but i did in the terminal paste path... |
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| 15:22.42 | jordanm | lagorgon: what version of debian is this? |
| 15:22.42 | qq- | lagorgon, after install, do > " pastebinit -b http://yourpaste.net /var/log/Xorg.0.log " and give us the URL |
| 15:22.47 | themill | jelly: the little I do know makes me suggest that you keep it that way |
| 15:22.49 | jelly | (well I do, but it's not part of debian) |
| 15:22.52 | arafangion | jelly: There goes that argument - the system simply can't be booted from the usb stick, infact, I have no way of accessing the BIOS. Here's to installing debian from windows... And hoping for the best. |
| 15:22.59 | lagorgon | qq-, ok |
| 15:23.05 | lagorgon | jordanm, lenny |
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| 15:23.18 | jordanm | lagorgon: lenny? and you used pastebinit to make that paste? |
| 15:23.21 | lagorgon | jordanm, one sec I will try what qq said above. |
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| 15:23.27 | arafangion | is now flabagasted... It now boots from the usb disk? |
| 15:23.40 | jelly | arafangion: and if you break the machine completely you can stick it where the sun don't shine |
| 15:23.50 | jelly | a-ha! Liar. |
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| 15:24.11 | arafangion | I think the BIOS was lying to me. |
| 15:24.17 | piklu | jelly: i know, let me know how to check this extra ordinary memory usage |
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| 15:24.30 | arafangion | Taking the previous boot "images" and using that to hide the evil text or something - who knows. |
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| 15:24.37 | jelly | piklu: ask proxmox people or their documentation about what their numbers mean |
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| 15:25.02 | jelly | piklu: or at least where they derive them from |
| 15:25.12 | lagorgon | qq-, how can I get pasyebinit? |
| 15:25.14 | piklu | jelly: how shall i confirm it on my debian end |
| 15:25.22 | lagorgon | qq-, how can I get pastebinit...sorry |
| 15:25.25 | jelly | piklu: use "free" :-) |
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| 15:25.33 | jordanm | lagorgon: how do you get any other application? |
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| 15:26.05 | lagorgon | jordanm, ohh silly question. apt-get pastebinit |
| 15:26.16 | lagorgon | jordanm, ohh sorry |
| 15:26.16 | jordanm | !tell lagorgon about why aptitude |
| 15:26.18 | craigevil | leave out milk and cookies so the software elves will install it ? |
| 15:26.22 | piklu | jelly: it shows 3GB used....even worst |
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| 15:28.04 | lagorgon | I get an error while doying pastebinit -b http://yourpaste.net /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 15:28.29 | kikekilla | where do i buy debian? |
| 15:28.33 | lagorgon | http://pastebin.com/nzLqk5Hp |
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| 15:28.54 | lagorgon | This is the error I get while executing the command, |
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| 15:28.55 | pyther | Hello |
| 15:29.03 | pyther | I am having a very very hard time installing debian |
| 15:29.15 | abrotman | how hard? |
| 15:29.17 | lagorgon | kikekilla, debian is free |
| 15:29.19 | abrotman | ducks |
| 15:29.21 | arafangion | kikekilla: A variety of places sell a copy of Debian Stable, but you'll have to look for it. |
| 15:29.24 | pyther | abrotman: extremely |
| 15:29.30 | jordanm | kikekilla: it is not required that you pay for debian but I believe somewhere like distrowatch.org will sell debian DVDs |
| 15:29.35 | pyther | I keep getting dependency errors |
| 15:29.39 | lagorgon | kikekilla, http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ |
| 15:29.44 | kikekilla | does debian support Crysis? |
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| 15:30.01 | abrotman | kikekilla: the game? |
| 15:30.02 | jordanm | pyther: during the install? |
| 15:30.05 | pyther | the console log of the installer says fthumb depends on gthumb-data... package gthmb-data is not installed |
| 15:30.07 | kikekilla | yeah |
| 15:30.08 | pyther | jordanm: yes |
| 15:30.17 | abrotman | kikekilla: ask #winehq |
| 15:30.19 | lagorgon | jordanm, http://pastebin.com/nzLqk5Hp I get this error |
| 15:30.20 | jordanm | kikekilla: you have to check the wineapp db for that |
| 15:30.23 | WormFood | is anyone else getting a seg fault with gthumb on testing (squeeze)? |
| 15:30.26 | jhutchins_lt | pyther: What install procedure are you following? |
| 15:30.34 | kikekilla | why? |
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| 15:30.47 | kikekilla | why can't i just run Crysis on debian? |
| 15:30.47 | abrotman | kikekilla: it's a wine question, not a debian question |
| 15:30.55 | pyther | jhutchins_lt: I'm just using the gui installer, I left the default checked, base and desktop enivornment |
| 15:30.58 | abrotman | kikekilla: it's a WINDOWS GAME .. Debian is linux |
| 15:31.04 | kikekilla | why is that? |
| 15:31.11 | jordanm | lagorgon: you have an additional space between the website and the file, try removing that |
| 15:31.13 | abrotman | kikekilla: go troll somewhere else |
| 15:31.21 | lagorgon | jordanm, ok |
| 15:31.25 | jhutchins_lt | pyther: You're installing lenny, right? Did you verify the md5sum of the disk image? |
| 15:31.48 | kikekilla | abrotman: sorry |
| 15:31.52 | abrotman | i doubt it |
| 15:31.54 | pyther | jhutchins_lt: yes correct, no I didn't but I have the netinstall cd |
| 15:31.55 | kikekilla | i don't know much about computers |
| 15:32.02 | abrotman | you just use offensive nicks? |
| 15:32.24 | jhutchins_lt | pyther: In that case you may be trying to use a repository that is having a problem with an update or something. |
| 15:32.28 | kikekilla | what's offensive about my nick? |
| 15:32.35 | lagorgon | jordanm, tried, the same error |
| 15:32.41 | abrotman | kikekilla: do you have a Debian related question? |
| 15:32.41 | kikekilla | are all linux users this uptight? |
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| 15:32.52 | lagorgon | jordanm, pastebinit -b http://yourpaste.net /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 15:33.00 | pyther | jhutchins_lt: I tried ftp.us.debian.org and mirrors.rit.edu |
| 15:33.06 | jordanm | lagorgon: same error? |
| 15:33.09 | jamesstanley | Under what circumstances could a directory take up 12288 bytes on a filesystem in which most (all?) other directories are 4096 bytes? |
| 15:33.24 | jamesstanley | Is it because I had so many files in that directory that it needed 2 extra disk blocks to list the names and inodes? |
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| 15:33.42 | lagorgon | jordanm, yes, as you can see there is no additional spaces between website and path |
| 15:33.49 | kikekilla | that's it |
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| 15:33.58 | joesuffceren | I'm having a little trouble with SquashFS on a thin client that's running a debian derivative. I have a root shell. I need to replace a file in /usr/bin, but I can't figure out how to get write access to that folder. Other folders on the thin client are "mounted" writeable (I know "folders" aren't mounted, but that's what fstab looks like). I've tried reading squashfs docs, but get lost quickly |
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| 15:34.06 | jhutchins_lt | pyther: What else happens besides the error logged above? |
| 15:34.07 | kikekilla | i'm just going to have to use an actual operating system |
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| 15:34.25 | pyther | jhutchins_lt: more specifically it says "corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive" |
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| 15:34.35 | pyther | for gthumb-data |
| 15:34.38 | jhutchins_lt | joesuffceren: This channel supports debian, not derivatives. |
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| 15:34.59 | jhutchins_lt | pyther: Does this cause the install to abort? |
| 15:34.59 | valdyn | jamesstanley: sure |
| 15:35.10 | pyther | jhutchins_lt: yes |
| 15:35.16 | lagorgon | jordanm, got other suggestions? |
| 15:35.17 | jamesstanley | valdyn: sure as in yes or sure as in that sounds plausible? |
| 15:35.31 | valdyn | jamesstanley: yes |
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| 15:35.34 | jamesstanley | ok, thanks |
| 15:36.00 | cafaro | Hi, I want to use dual-head with Debian Squeeze, but my virtual resolution can't be bigger than 1440x1440, even though I edited otherwise in my xorg.conf, any ideas? xorg.conf -> http://pastebin.com/ySzAXzLw |
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| 15:36.25 | Godslastering | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:36.27 | Godslastering | WOOPS |
| 15:36.28 | joesuffceren | jhutchins_lt: sorry, didn't mean to ask in an inappropriate channel. Not super familiar with debian ecosystem. I know there isn't likely to be a channel dedicated to this distribution, so is there a general linux or squashfs discussion channel that you're aware of? |
| 15:36.29 | Godslastering | argh |
| 15:36.43 | jhutchins_lt | cafaro: What is your card capable of? |
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| 15:37.26 | jordanm | lagorgon: extract this [1] to your homedir. cd into the directory and run ./wgetpaste /var/log/Xorg.0.log; [1] http://wgetpaste.zlin.dk/wgetpaste-2.17.tar.bz2 |
| 15:37.38 | jhutchins_lt | joesuffceren: Sorry, but the derivitives vary enough that trying to support them here is futile. There is #linux, don't know about squash. There should at least be forums or mailing lists for your distro. |
| 15:38.04 | jhutchins_lt | pyther: I presume this happens in the main "installing packages" section of the install. |
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| 15:38.11 | pyther | yes correct |
| 15:38.24 | jhutchins_lt | pyther: Not sure what to tell you. It sounds like a bad package download, but it could be a local disk problem. Plenty of space? |
| 15:38.37 | kryl | please how to change UTC+0000 to UTC+0200 ? |
| 15:38.39 | joesuffceren | jhutchins_lt: understood. Thanks. my "distro" is HP thinpro, but they no longer support the model I'm trying to update, so I can't get help from them. I'll look for a squash mailing list. Thanks! |
| 15:38.40 | pyther | I think that gthumb-data might be corrupted |
| 15:38.46 | valdyn | !timezone |
| 15:38.47 | dpkg | i heard timezone is the standard time (aka local time) in a particular region. To change the timezone on Debian systems, execute "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" (Lenny, Squeeze) or "tzconfig" (Etch). Alternatively: "cp -b /usr/share/zoneinfo/$TZ /etc/localtime". Note that tzselect(1) does not change the timezone. |
| 15:38.54 | jhutchins_lt | cafaro: Remember that the card's RAM must be capable of imaging the combined resolution of both screens. |
| 15:39.06 | pyther | because I tried install gnome-desktop-environment within a booted debian install and I got the same eror |
| 15:39.09 | pyther | *error |
| 15:39.34 | jhutchins_lt | pyther: Is this on the same filesystem? Could be you just need to clear the apt cache. |
| 15:39.44 | lagorgon | jordanm, ok, one second...lets see if i can do it |
| 15:40.26 | pyther | jhutchins_lt: I should be able to continue the install and try within the booted os right? |
| 15:40.50 | arafangion | jhutchins_lt: Sometimes it is a driver issue. |
| 15:41.00 | pyther | gah my networking is all messed up :( |
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| 15:41.59 | lagorgon | jordanm, Your paste can be seen here: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/223938/ |
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| 15:42.37 | kryl | valdyn, not sure to handle difference between localtime and universal on debian system !!! |
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| 15:42.45 | pyther | jhutchins_lt: how can I check to see if the pkg on the mirrors is corrupted |
| 15:42.46 | sepult | is debian-multimedia.org down ? |
| 15:43.00 | sepult | or why can't i access the repository now nor the faq ! |
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| 15:43.16 | Trapdoor | hi |
| 15:43.42 | Trapdoor | when im trying to run "X -configure" it shit bricks and segment faults because of vmware drivers |
| 15:43.46 | jhutchins_lt | sepult: I think the main URL is not working, but some mirrors are still ok. Not sure what the issue is. |
| 15:43.47 | Trapdoor | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=579910 |
| 15:43.59 | sepult | ok |
| 15:44.00 | Trapdoor | encountering that bug but i really want to run X -configure, any ideas? |
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| 15:44.16 | pyther | jhutchins_lt: do you know what cd's I would need to download for the desktop environment? |
| 15:44.23 | *** topic/#debian by themill -> debian-multimedia broken: /msg dpkg dmm down | lenny (5.0.4) /msg dpkg lennyr4 | /msg dpkg etch->lenny | 4.0r9 /msg dpkg etch | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg pastebin | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | FAQ: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIRC | channel logs: http://purl.rikers.org/%23debian |
| 15:44.26 | jhutchins_lt | pyther: Not sure what the procedure would be, but packages are signed and md5summed. |
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| 15:44.31 | themill | topicdiff: dmm down |
| 15:44.49 | jhutchins_lt | pyther: I've only used the netinstall myself, the install guide should say what you need. |
| 15:45.05 | pyther | ok, because I think the gthumb-data package is corrupt |
| 15:45.10 | jhutchins_lt | themill: Ah, thanks. |
| 15:45.53 | themill | jhutchins_lt: at least we can now !topicsmite people ;) |
| 15:46.17 | lagorgon | jordanm, Found anything wrong? |
| 15:46.27 | jordanm | lagorgon: looking now |
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| 15:46.40 | lagorgon | jordanm, thanks |
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| 15:47.34 | luqui | Anyone know how to built your own boot cd? Something similar to this -->http://www.captain.at/howto-linux-boot-cd.php but instead of making my own live cd, what I want to do (in order to resize the existing partition of the PC) is something similar to a live cd that once you insert the cd and boot from it, executes automatically a script that uses parted (already done) to resize a windows hard drive and makes a new partition for linux. I don't e |
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| 15:48.12 | pyther | It just doesnt' make any sense why that keeps failing |
| 15:48.14 | pyther | :( |
| 15:48.33 | jordanm | lagorgon: it doesn't look like your machine was configured to use the ati drivers. pastebin /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 15:49.16 | jordanm | pyther: are you trying to install lenny? |
| 15:49.33 | lagorgon | jordanm, ok, one second |
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| 15:49.45 | pyther | jordanm: yes and it seems that I get stuck on gthumb-data |
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| 15:49.49 | jhutchins_lt | pyther: Yeah, this kind of thing happens with testing/sid, but shouldn't with stable. Did you clear you apt cache? |
| 15:50.03 | lagorgon | jordanm, http://paste.pocoo.org/show/223942/ |
| 15:50.11 | pyther | jhutchins_lt: well I had to kill the install because my networking majorly got messed up |
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| 15:50.22 | jordanm | pyther: install a base system without the desktop task. install the desktop task after |
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| 15:50.43 | pyther | jordanm: I tried that the first time around and got the same error about gthumb view |
| 15:50.51 | pyther | is there a way to get a simpler gnome-desktop? |
| 15:51.09 | pyther | I don't really need gthumb and the whole nine yards, just a basic gnome desktop |
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| 15:51.49 | jhutchins_lt | pyther: Well, there's kde and xfce... |
| 15:52.00 | jordanm | lagorgon: mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak; aticonfig --initial; restart X; if anything goes wrong you just need to do: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 15:52.24 | pyther | jhutchins_lt: I need to keep it gnome |
| 15:52.29 | jhutchins_lt | avoids gnome as much as possible. |
| 15:52.32 | jordanm | pyther: I would like to see a pastebin of the error |
| 15:52.33 | pyther | I don't have much of a choice in the matter |
| 15:52.34 | lagorgon | jordanm, ok, I will try now, thanks so much for assisting me. |
| 15:52.50 | pyther | jordanm: are you going to be around in a few hours? |
| 15:53.17 | jordanm | pyther: I will be here, but can't say whether or not I will be available |
| 15:54.03 | pyther | jordanm: ok.. I start work at 1pm and so I'll probably start the debian install sortly after |
| 15:54.27 | pyther | jordanm: once I get the base system up I should just need to do apt-get update and apt-get gnome-desktop-environment, correct? |
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| 15:56.40 | pyther | 5.04 is lenny, right? |
| 15:57.12 | jordanm | pyther: use aptitude, and IIRC, it was called gnome-desktop |
| 15:57.15 | jordanm | ,versions gnome-desktop |
| 15:57.17 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'gnome-desktop' was found. |
| 15:57.27 | jordanm | ,versions gnome-desktop-environment |
| 15:57.30 | judd | gnome-desktop-environment -- etch: 1:2.14.3.6; lenny: 1:2.22.2~5; squeeze: 1:2.28+7; sid: 1:2.30+1 |
| 15:57.47 | jordanm | pyther: yes, that is correct |
| 15:57.50 | pyther | ok, is apititude prefered over apt-get? |
| 15:58.17 | jordanm | pyther: yes |
| 15:58.22 | jordanm | !tell pyther about why aptitude |
| 15:58.47 | pyther | Ok cool, thanks |
| 15:59.05 | pyther | I'm a arch, fedora/RHEL guy mostly, so the concepts of debian are fairly new to me |
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| 16:07.03 | luqui | Hello, Anyone know how to built a debian boot cd with parted and execute a script automatically? |
| 16:07.03 | luqui | Rigth now, I boot from my customized boot cd but I must execute the script manually. What I have done is something similar to this -->http://www.captain.at/howto-linux-boot-cd.php |
| 16:07.03 | luqui | But, instead doing that, I would like to create a boot cd that executes that script automatically. I mean, just insert the cd, boot from it and forget about it until the task finished. |
| 16:07.03 | luqui | The script (already done) uses parted libraries to resize the existing partition of the PC and makes a new partition for linux. |
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| 16:08.50 | abrotman | !custom netinst |
| 16:08.50 | dpkg | To create customized Debian <netinst> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify/CustomKernel and http://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD . Also ask me about <kmuto>, <cdd>. |
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| 16:11.12 | luiss | Sorry for the stupid question but what tool am I supposed to install to let the system automount usb drives when they are plugged? I searched and found udev, autofs, automount, hotplug, I a bit confused... |
| 16:12.00 | jhutchins_lt | luiss: What DE? Which release? |
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| 16:12.20 | luiss | jhutchins: lenny |
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| 16:12.49 | peta | hello everybody |
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| 16:13.15 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, still here? I followed your instructions for setting up the ati driver and my ssystem doesn't start now |
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| 16:14.13 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, it boots, lenny loads all the modules...but when it's time to show the usr and psw screen my display goes off |
| 16:14.40 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, is there a way to fix this or i got to install lenny again? |
| 16:14.47 | jhutchins_lt | luiss: gnome? |
| 16:15.08 | luiss | jhutchins: no I havn't X |
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| 16:15.55 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: that means the ati driver is failing. what kind of card is this? |
| 16:16.15 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, ati hd4330 on a dell inspiron 1545 |
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| 16:16.52 | cafaro | jhutchins_lt: I'm not sure, how can I check that? I have ATI mobility radeon hd 3650 |
| 16:16.54 | karlpinc | lagorgonza1: You should be able to press ctrl-alt-f1, all at once, to get a console. |
| 16:17.03 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, i had a fedora dvd in my house luckly...right now i'm using it |
| 16:17.05 | karlpinc | cafaro: lspci -nn |
| 16:17.13 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, ohh ok |
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| 16:19.10 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak /etc/X11/xorg.conf should i do this? |
| 16:19.33 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: that will get you back to how you were |
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| 16:20.21 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, Hmmm...other than that what can I do? |
| 16:20.34 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: rm the xorg.conf |
| 16:21.13 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: during troubleshooting, you may want to disable gdm using sysv-rc-conf. you would then boot to a console and use "startx" to start gnome |
| 16:21.19 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary I followed the exact steps from the docymentation. |
| 16:21.30 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, rm xorg.conf? |
| 16:22.24 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: you are currently in a livecd? |
| 16:22.28 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, I ask because I am not so great in the terminal, |
| 16:22.35 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, yes, fedora |
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| 16:24.01 | topi` | funny thing, this udev |
| 16:24.13 | topi` | udevd[369]: udev: missing sysfs fe |
| 16:24.13 | topi` | tures; please update the kernel or disable the kernel's CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED |
| 16:24.13 | topi` | option; udev may fail to work correctly |
| 16:24.14 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, so when I restart, i should do rm xorg.conf then sysv-rc-conf then startx? |
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| 16:24.28 | topi` | and indeed: "waiting /dev to be fully populated" and then the boot process just gets stuck. |
| 16:25.14 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: mkdir /mnt/debian; mount /dev/sdxx /mnt/debian; cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/debian/etc/resolv.conf; mount -t proc none /mnt/debian/proc; mount -o bind /dev /mnt/debian/proc; chroot /mnt/debian /bin/bash |
| 16:25.39 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, ohh I will try .. |
| 16:26.01 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: where sdxx is the name of your debian drive. you will then be "inside" of your debian installation. from there, install sysv-rc-conf, use it to disable gdm, and remove /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 16:26.40 | piklu | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:26.43 | piklu | Now what to do ? |
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| 16:27.07 | karlpinc | piklu: Did you try running 'dpkg --configure -a'? |
| 16:27.27 | piklu | nope |
| 16:27.29 | piklu | fear |
| 16:27.34 | piklu | i crashed a install |
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| 16:29.43 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, the debian driver name is fglrx? |
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| 16:30.29 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: sorry... this line is wrong: mount -o bind /dev /mnt/debian/proc; have you already ran it? |
| 16:30.46 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: no, the proprietary ati driver is fglrx. nothing singling out debian |
| 16:30.50 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, from there how do you disable gdm, what command? and what command is used to delete xorg.conf? |
| 16:31.04 | lagorgonza1 | Jordan_U, not yet |
| 16:31.22 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: it should read: mount -o bind /dev /mnt/debian/dev |
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| 16:31.54 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: run: sysv-rc-conf to disable gdm, it has UI so it should be easy to figure out (and why I suggest it). then: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 16:33.38 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, ohh..i hope i make it out of this...i will try now...i'm a bit scared since i'm a young debian kadet:P |
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| 16:34.48 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, and sysv-rc-conf i run it by ./sysv-rc-conf? |
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| 16:35.41 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: install it, then run sysv-rc-conf |
| 16:36.03 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: ./ is current directory, so that would only work if your current working directory contained the sysv-rc-conf binary |
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| 16:36.45 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, ohh ok...I will restart now and start geting to work |
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| 16:37.02 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: that was intended you do from the livecd |
| 16:37.15 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: thats why it looked a bit more complicated than it should... |
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| 16:37.29 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, well i'm on fedora can i do it from here? |
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| 16:38.50 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, well i will open a termina; and try from this live cd |
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| 16:39.36 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, I thought i need to restart then press ctrl plus alt plus f1 and do all the things there |
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| 16:40.23 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, I can not do it from livecd |
| 16:40.29 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/debian': Permission denied |
| 16:41.02 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: again as root |
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| 16:41.31 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: although, you can do it from the tty if you prefer. the steps about mounting and chroot will not be required there |
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| 16:42.12 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, I do not know how to login to root on fedora |
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| 16:42.19 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: I really just need to see a pastebin of Xorg.0.log after a failed boot |
| 16:42.23 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: type "su" |
| 16:42.39 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, ok |
| 16:42.57 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, now lets try all the steps you gaved me above |
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| 16:44.26 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, mount /dev/fglrx /mnt/debian |
| 16:44.26 | lagorgonza1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:44.47 | lagorgonza1 | Sorry, didn't mean to flood |
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| 16:44.58 | domme | hi |
| 16:45.16 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: /dev/fglrx is certainly not your hard drive partition that has debian installed |
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| 16:46.08 | domme | am i right that proftpd in debian does not have mod_gss compiled in? |
| 16:46.24 | domme | is there any ftp server with kerberos support in standard distribution? |
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| 16:46.48 | valdyn | krb5-ftpd - Secure FTP server supporting MIT Kerberos |
| 16:47.20 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, well i have all the things in one partition...this is how i opted on the lenny install |
| 16:47.38 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, how can I check the name then? |
| 16:47.48 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: fdisk -l |
| 16:48.42 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, dev/sda1 i think it is |
| 16:48.50 | domme | feels silly now |
| 16:48.53 | domme | valdyn: thx :) |
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| 16:49.20 | topi` | is there any way to resize an ext3 partition a tad smaller? |
| 16:49.35 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, mount /dev/sda1/fglrx /mnt/debian then? |
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| 16:49.51 | domme | does krb5-ftpd only support kerberos authentification? |
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| 16:50.24 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, you said o replace mount /dev/sdxx /mnt/debian sdxx with the name of the driver which is fglrx |
| 16:50.56 | valdyn | lagorgonza1: even though fglrx is the name of a driver, what does it have to do with harddisks? |
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| 16:51.17 | frostschutz | you can mount gpu memory now? nice :) |
| 16:52.02 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: 2010-06-10 12:26 < jordanm> lagorgonza1: where sdxx is the name of your debian drive. |
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| 16:53.09 | lagorgonza1 | valdyn, please don't confuse me more, I am already in the deep hell but I refuse to go back on crappy click next finish distros. |
| 16:53.34 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, oh...i read wrong...sorry |
| 16:53.50 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: forget the other stuff... just mount that drive and pastebin /mnt/debian/var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 16:54.09 | ne7work | hello all please some help with netinst.. iso |
| 16:54.10 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, done, pasting right now |
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| 16:54.27 | jordanm | !tell ne7work about ask |
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| 16:55.08 | ne7work | jordanm, how to set pppoe connection for netinstall to install debian 5/ |
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| 16:55.48 | valdyn | ne7work: are you saying that that is not in the install guide? |
| 16:56.03 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, http://pastebin.com/GzrtCCpb |
| 16:56.06 | ne7work | netinst is 100 mb iso file |
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| 16:56.15 | ne7work | how to set pppoe connection on the installation? |
| 16:56.15 | valdyn | ne7work: so? |
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| 16:56.22 | ne7work | where i can write as root? |
| 16:56.23 | valdyn | ne7work: read the documentation |
| 16:56.24 | ne7work | or what? |
| 16:56.27 | ne7work | .. |
| 16:56.29 | ne7work | where? |
| 16:56.35 | ne7work | give me link please |
| 16:56.36 | valdyn | ne7work: in the internets |
| 16:57.01 | dvs | valdyn: ha! I knew you were George! ;-) |
| 16:57.02 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, sorry i am making you such a hard time... |
| 16:57.02 | ne7work | give me link please |
| 16:57.03 | valdyn | !fgi ne7work installing+debian+with+pppoe |
| 16:57.03 | dpkg | ne7work: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=installing+debian+with+pppoe |
| 16:57.11 | dexu | sombody know a web interface for iptables? |
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| 16:58.44 | ne7work | i need to install netinst? |
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| 16:59.22 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: that doesn't look like the entire file |
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| 17:00.40 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, i used pic /mnt/debian/var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 17:00.54 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, is there a way to use pastebin here? |
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| 17:01.21 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, as in i did in the terminal on ubuntu |
| 17:01.24 | Bushmills | aptitude install pastebinit |
| 17:01.31 | lagorgonza1 | ok |
| 17:01.35 | lagorgonza1 | thanks |
| 17:01.59 | jhutchins_lt | lagorgonza1: pastebinit is having some troubles lately, read the manpage for how to use different sites. |
| 17:02.15 | lagorgonza1 | i'm on a fedora dvd |
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| 17:02.25 | lagorgonza1 | aptitude does not work here |
| 17:02.35 | Bushmills | tough feces |
| 17:02.45 | jhutchins_lt | lagorgonza1: Nor does installing software, nor will pastebinit. |
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| 17:03.04 | lagorgonza1 | jhutchins_lt, only good news:P |
| 17:03.07 | jhutchins_lt | lagorgonza1: Boot to console mode and you can use both. |
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| 17:04.27 | lagorgonza1 | jhutchins_lt, please look above for my problem |
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| 17:05.38 | jhutchins_lt | It looks like you're pretty far off track. You should be able to boot to single-user mode and access the console to remove xorg.conf, you can disable gdm from console and restart and you'll be in console with networking. |
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| 17:06.04 | jhutchins_lt | lagorgonza1: From a fedora rescue CD the only things you can do are copy, move, edit, or delete files. |
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| 17:06.49 | jhutchins_lt | lagorgonza1: If you set up a chroot you will have unpredictable results due to running Fedora on a Debian filesystem, they're not that compatible. |
| 17:07.06 | lagorgonza1 | jhutchins_lt, thanks |
| 17:07.08 | jhutchins_lt | lagorgonza1: You are making this harder than it needs to be. |
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| 17:08.33 | lagorgonza1 | well i will go reinstall debian and get back in the depts of hell with ati |
| 17:08.33 | lagorgonza1 | at least is there a good tutoriak on how to install ati drivers on lenny |
| 17:08.33 | jhutchins_lt | lagorgonza1: Really, if you follow the guide carefully you should be fine. |
| 17:08.33 | lagorgonza1 | it isn't |
| 17:08.34 | lagorgonza1 | I followed the exact steps in the debian wiki |
| 17:08.57 | jhutchins_lt | lagorgonza1: Pay attention to the output of console commands - read the output and try to understand what it's telling you. |
| 17:09.22 | lagorgonza1 | jhutchins_lt, the problem is it isn't sayingnothing |
| 17:09.46 | lagorgonza1 | http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
| 17:09.53 | lagorgonza1 | I did those steps |
| 17:09.57 | jhutchins_lt | lagorgonza1: Then most likely there was something wrong with the command you typed. |
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| 17:10.16 | jhutchins_lt | lagorgonza1: I can't duplicate it, I have an intell chipset. |
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| 17:10.34 | lagorgonza1 | It's ok, thanks anyway... |
| 17:10.44 | lagorgonza1 | Also another thing |
| 17:10.54 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: I just got back, the instructions I gave you on using wgetpaste will work in fedora |
| 17:11.21 | lagorgonza1 | How do you update lenny? apt-get upgrade? |
| 17:11.35 | jordanm | !tell lagorgonza1 about why aptitude |
| 17:11.56 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, I will install debian again... |
| 17:12.03 | jordanm | install debian again? |
| 17:12.04 | eikenberry | debian user poll; http://tinyurl.com/3y33ska |
| 17:12.15 | eikenberry | related blog post; http://twerner.blogspot.com/2010/06/debian-community-poll.html |
| 17:12.16 | jhutchins_lt | There is an error on the wiki. |
| 17:12.20 | jordanm | I went to grab food and you uninstalled debian in that time? |
| 17:12.20 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, don't want to take you more time |
| 17:12.27 | dwt | Hi, I'm searchig for the config file change the kernel boot options. /boot/grub/menu.lst is what is generated, but the file it is generated from is what I'm searhing (If I understand this right) |
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| 17:13.40 | jhutchins_lt | So's the fglrx one-liner lenny |
| 17:13.50 | jordanm | dwt: its generated based on the commented sections of the config. the comments should give somewhat of an explination. if you have edited a section in the kernel listing that is _uncommented_, update-grub may refuse to geneerate that section again |
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| 17:14.42 | jordanm | dwt: specifically, you want # defoptions=foo |
| 17:14.43 | WizardNumberNext | Hello |
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| 17:15.29 | jhutchins_lt | Ah, missed the sed expression. It would be simpler to install fglrx-modules-`uname -r` |
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| 17:16.02 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#supported ati hd4330 isn't supported sadly |
| 17:16.08 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, :( |
| 17:16.40 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, maybe that's why...ohh no |
| 17:16.55 | lagorgonza1 | jordanm, this is really sadly |
| 17:17.25 | dwt | jordanm: thanks for the info, i'll give it a try |
| 17:17.54 | mi1 | Hey im trieing to use the net install from a usb drive and it is giving me an error reading "cannot find cdrom driver" |
| 17:18.08 | mi1 | or something around therre |
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| 17:18.17 | dwt | for more advanced options: I want to get the kernel to boot verbosely, but stop spamming the console after it persents the user with the login option |
| 17:18.26 | jhutchins_lt | lagorgonza1: You should be able to at least get it running in 2D mode well enough to learn a bit more about Debian and the console. |
| 17:18.27 | dwt | so I would like to remove quiet from the kernel options |
| 17:18.33 | jordanm | lagorgonza1: I downloaded the pdf before we ever started. it says hd3600 series... |
| 17:18.43 | dwt | and re-enable that when the booting is complete |
| 17:18.44 | WizardNumberNext | lagorgonza1: Yeah, it's sad, they don't support their product |
| 17:19.37 | jordanm | I haven't bought an ATI anything since they did actually "drop" support for my card in fglrx |
| 17:20.05 | action09 | hi all ! To nstall apckages from lenny-backports, do i need before to do "su wget -O - http://backports.org/debian/archive.key | apt-key add -" is it mandatory ? |
| 17:20.07 | jordanm | although, now nvidia has done similar, but I think nvidia is maintaining the old drivers |
| 17:20.08 | mi1 | any help? |
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| 17:20.51 | jordanm | action09: no, you could install debian-backports-keyring instead, or you can install the packages as "untrusted" (_not_ recommended) |
| 17:20.56 | action09 | mi1 try 'maybe' other boot parameters, noasic, noacpi, vedrify tht the module which drive the cdrom is loaded on boot |
| 17:21.06 | action09 | jordanm thanks |
| 17:21.07 | dvs | jordanm: and ATI open sourced their specs |
| 17:21.24 | mi1 | action09: how do i get the usb name |
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| 17:21.30 | jordanm | mi1: are you following the usb installation guide? that is a common issue for people who try to use unetbootin |
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| 17:21.41 | mi1 | lol :-0 |
| 17:21.43 | mi1 | thanks |
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| 17:26.16 | project2501b | how on earth are you supposed to install debian from the debian-live cd? |
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| 17:26.38 | ScottG | You can't do it from earth. You need to travel to the center of the sun |
| 17:26.51 | Bushmills | debootstrap is one option |
| 17:26.58 | project2501b | what's the other/ |
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| 17:27.00 | ScottG | Oh, right. Or that |
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| 17:27.17 | project2501b | do i have to travel back to the future? |
| 17:27.37 | dvs | project2501a: get a Delorian |
| 17:27.47 | jordanm | project2501b: the livecd is not an installer. debootstrap is the only option |
| 17:27.55 | jhutchins_lt | project2501b: I don't think the installer's an option on the Live units. Check the install guide. |
| 17:28.18 | Bushmills | yes. you need to get to a point in future where project world domination has been achieved by 100%, not by 50% as it is now. |
| 17:28.23 | project2501b | Jordanm: so man debootstrap ? |
| 17:28.37 | jordanm | !debootstrap |
| 17:28.37 | jhutchins_lt | I suppose you could copy all the files from the live CD to a hard disk, but you'd end up with a pretty wierd system. |
| 17:28.37 | dpkg | debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>. http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Installing_new_Debian_systems_with_debootstrap |
| 17:28.39 | Bushmills | then you grab just any computing device, and it will have linux installed already |
| 17:29.11 | jordanm | project2501b: I recommend checking out its section of the install guide. you will likely need to install it first, which shouldn't be an issue, even on the livecd |
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| 17:35.09 | Vorg | After the last apt-get update/upgrade, every kernel I make with make-dpkg includes initrd. I don't use initrid, don't have it selected in menuconfig and don't use --initrd with make-kpkg. Using debian Squeeze. Some default was changed and I don't know where. |
| 17:36.01 | ootput | Vorg: which packages were updated? hint: check the logs |
| 17:36.18 | ootput | when you nail it, check it's package changelog |
| 17:36.26 | ootput | its |
| 17:36.57 | Vorg | 265 entries :( |
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| 17:37.25 | jhutchins_lt | Squeeze, let's see, that's... Testing! Congratulations, your test succeeded in finding a problem! |
| 17:37.32 | Justin | Vorg: /etc/kernel-img.conf? |
| 17:37.50 | Vorg | I looked at that file and it hasn't changed that I can tell |
| 17:38.06 | Justin | Vorg: try grep initrd -r /etc |
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| 17:40.38 | Vorg | kernel-img.conf is dated 9/10/2007 |
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| 17:42.55 | project2501b | any tools that can fork multiple ssh commands to different hosts? |
| 17:43.17 | project2501b | e.g. ssh-fork root@my.shell.com shutdown -h now |
| 17:43.24 | jhutchins_lt | project2501b: I just use a for loop, that way I'm not trying to sort parallel results. |
| 17:43.39 | project2501b | e.g. ssh-fork root@${MY_CLUSTER} shutdown -h now |
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| 17:43.52 | sivel | project2501b: look at cluster ssh |
| 17:44.01 | project2501b | jhutchins: yeah, i'd do that normally |
| 17:44.17 | project2501b | unfortunatelly: http://www.flickr.com/photos/project2501a/sets/72157624245182108/ |
| 17:44.24 | project2501b | and that's just the first batch. |
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| 17:44.29 | project2501b | there's 120 more coming |
| 17:44.38 | jhutchins_lt | iirc somebody wrote a remote shutdown script just for that. |
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| 17:46.51 | project2501b | jhutchins_lt: yeah,you can def do that |
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| 17:47.42 | mquin | project2501b: take a look at 'dsh' |
| 17:47.51 | project2501b | will do, mate |
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| 17:49.45 | project2501b | cool. so i'll install pelican hpc on disk, get a raid 5+0 going with 6 ssd's and get this cluster underway |
| 17:50.03 | project2501b | thank you debian :D |
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| 17:54.12 | karsten | Is there a utility / hack in Debian to determine page load times, preferably through a proxy to simulate off-site response? |
| 17:54.43 | jordanm | karsten: google-chrome has benchmarking utilities that I believe will do that kind of thing |
| 17:54.55 | sivel | karsten: not sure of a utility, but take a look at http://tools.pingdom.com/ |
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| 17:55.09 | jordanm | karsten: developer -> developer tools -> timeline |
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| 17:55.24 | mi1 | im back i have tried dd and it seems to not be bootable |
| 17:55.39 | mi1 | im using an iso, do i need an img |
| 17:55.52 | mi1 | i couldnt see why it would matter imho |
| 17:55.55 | jordanm | karsten: you would of course need to configure the browser to use a proxy |
| 17:56.13 | mi1 | dd if=deb.iso of=\\.\d: |
| 17:58.04 | abrotman | karsten: ab2 ? |
| 17:58.53 | jhutchins_lt | mi1: Why not try reading the install guide? |
| 17:58.59 | mi1 | i am |
| 17:59.21 | mi1 | they use an img, but i have an iso downloaded, i dont want to have to download the img because my isp sucks |
| 17:59.33 | jordanm | mi1: what part of the guide tells you to dd the .iso? |
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| 17:59.44 | mi1 | http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto/USB |
| 17:59.51 | jordanm | mi1: the .img is like 3mb... |
| 18:00.03 | mi1 | jordan, my isp still uses 98 |
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| 18:00.14 | jordanm | mi1: thats debian live, I thought you were trying to install debian? |
| 18:00.33 | jordanm | !usb install |
| 18:00.33 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 18:00.33 | mi1 | this is the iso im using |
| 18:00.44 | jordanm | mi1: well, the debianlive cd is not an installer |
| 18:01.02 | mi1 | i have an installer iso tho |
| 18:01.19 | jordanm | mi1: then follow the install guide, not the debian wiki for debianlive |
| 18:01.25 | mi1 | dd if=deb.iso of=driveblah |
| 18:01.33 | mi1 | that is correct roght? |
| 18:01.40 | jordanm | mi1: no |
| 18:01.48 | jhutchins_lt | mi1: No. |
| 18:01.50 | jordanm | mi1: you dd the .img and cp the .iso |
| 18:02.01 | mi1 | im on windows btw |
| 18:02.07 | mi1 | on my mommys computer |
| 18:02.18 | mi1 | so can windows tools do such a thing? |
| 18:02.27 | jordanm | mi1: yes, in the factoid that you didn't read |
| 18:02.36 | mi1 | give me a link |
| 18:02.41 | jordanm | !usb install |
| 18:02.41 | dpkg | Yes, it is possible to install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/ch04s03 . To download USB stick images, ask me about <install debian>. https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download to prepare from Windows. BIOS can't boot from USB? Use http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager.html |
| 18:03.01 | mi1 | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en#usb-copy-easy |
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| 18:03.33 | jordanm | yeah... why should you be bothered to read a whole 3 lines of text from dpkg... |
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| 18:03.56 | jhutchins_lt | mi1: You're the one who wants to do the install. |
| 18:04.21 | mi1 | no i read it |
| 18:04.21 | jhutchins_lt | mi1: Are we supposed to read it out loud for you? |
| 18:04.36 | mi1 | just not before i posted the above link |
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| 18:06.45 | mi1 | :) |
| 18:06.47 | mi1 | thanks |
| 18:06.56 | mi1 | my isp is a joke |
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| 18:07.45 | jhutchins_lt | mi1: You _can_ order CD's on-line, that's sometimes a good option. |
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| 18:08.12 | mi1 | no i usually have a pile of CDs but not this week |
| 18:08.28 | mi1 | much easiar with a couple hundred dvd/cd to waste |
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| 18:10.14 | Trapdoor | when im trying to run "X -configure" it shit bricks and segment faults because of vmware drivers |
| 18:10.18 | Trapdoor | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=579910 |
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| 18:10.22 | Trapdoor | encountering that bug but i really want to run X -configure, any ideas? |
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| 18:11.13 | jelly | Trapdoor: move away that xorg vmware driver temporarily |
| 18:11.24 | Trapdoor | the actual file? |
| 18:11.28 | jelly | yes. |
| 18:11.51 | Trapdoor | do i even need it? |
| 18:11.51 | jelly | no. |
| 18:11.51 | Trapdoor | how do i move it away? |
| 18:11.52 | jelly | using "mv" |
| 18:12.09 | Trapdoor | well yea but where's the driver? |
| 18:12.58 | Trapdoor | oh found it nm |
| 18:13.10 | jelly | good |
| 18:13.42 | Trapdoor | excellent, thanks |
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| 18:15.55 | jauiwojau | can someone explain the following behaviour: 1) when I boot my computer (debian lenny), the screen is messed up (external monitor connected to a notebook). 2) when I restart gdm from the command line (gdm restart) everything is fine. |
| 18:16.40 | jhutchins_lt | Monitor is registering after gdm starts. |
| 18:16.46 | jhutchins_lt | Your system is too fast. |
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| 18:17.19 | jauiwojau | jhutchins: you mean it didn't detect the monitor yet, and uses the wrong settings? |
| 18:17.26 | jhutchins_lt | Right. |
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| 18:17.46 | jauiwojau | jhutchins: my system, however, is incredibly slow. A notebook of 2003... Or do you mean "fast" in another sense? |
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| 18:18.30 | jhutchins_lt | jauiwojau: It's all relative. |
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| 18:18.45 | jhutchins_lt | jauiwojau: You might be able to build a gdmrc file that fixes the problem. |
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| 18:19.35 | jauiwojau | jhutchins_li: I can imagine that it has something to do with the order in which things happen during the booting process.... |
| 18:19.55 | jhutchins_lt | Yeah, and you could mess with that. |
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| 18:20.21 | jhutchins_lt | You could set up runlevels like the RH tree does, start in console mode then switch to GUI. |
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| 18:21.08 | jauiwojau | jhutchings_lt: aha.. With "build" you mean editing in an ASCII editor, or is there some utility available for tweaking the file? |
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| 18:22.15 | jhutchins_lt | dpkg-recofigure X, X --configure |
| 18:22.34 | jhutchins_lt | Wait, no, that's just xorg.conf. |
| 18:22.35 | jauiwojau | Ah, IC |
| 18:22.44 | jhutchins_lt | possibly dpkg-reconfigure gdm |
| 18:22.52 | jhutchins_lt | jauiwojau: other than that, edit gdmrc. |
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| 18:23.19 | jauiwojau | jhutchins_lt: ok, you mean all these methods are ways to directly or indirectly edit gdmrc |
| 18:23.28 | mi1 | ok... now its complaining of not finding an installer iso |
| 18:24.11 | mi1 | when scanning the frives |
| 18:24.13 | mi1 | *drives |
| 18:24.33 | jhutchins_lt | jauiwojau: not sure about dpkg-reconfigure. |
| 18:24.38 | jhutchins_lt | jauiwojau: Worth trying. |
| 18:25.04 | dvs | mi1: so the iso is not on the USB drive? |
| 18:25.25 | mi1 | i used an img as told |
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| 18:25.44 | jauiwojau | jhutchins_lt: ah, I saw it... Another problem... When I restart gdm it complains there is already an X server running. If you choose "No" it will attempt to restart X as well (at least that is what I understood). However this doesn't work. FInally I clicked yes, and it started the X on another screen. |
| 18:25.50 | dvs | mi1: follow the instruction to make a USB image |
| 18:25.56 | mi1 | i made one |
| 18:25.58 | mi1 | it boots |
| 18:26.09 | mi1 | but it complains of not having installation media |
| 18:26.31 | jhutchins_lt | mi1: How do you expect that we can tell you anything that's not in the guide? |
| 18:26.44 | jauiwojau | jhutchins_lt: can I make it start on the display on which the X server already runs? |
| 18:26.46 | mi1 | im looking at the guide |
| 18:26.52 | dvs | so am i |
| 18:26.53 | mi1 | !usb |
| 18:26.54 | dpkg | [usb] (Universal Serial Bus) A technology that has replaced the way that some peripheral devices connect to a computer. It is much faster than serial and parallel communications. It is also much more flexible: many devices can be connected to simultaneously. USB 3.0 is supported by the Linux kernel since 2.6.31. http://www.linux-usb.org/USB-guide/book1.html http://www.linux-usb.org/ See also <usbreset>. |
| 18:27.09 | mi1 | give me the link please :) |
| 18:27.25 | mi1 | nvm |
| 18:27.26 | jhutchins_lt | jauiwojau: Got to kill the whole X session and gdm before you restart it. |
| 18:27.52 | mi1 | i used w32 diskimager |
| 18:27.56 | mi1 | and its bootable |
| 18:28.03 | mi1 | but i guess it wants an iso also |
| 18:28.04 | dvs | mi1: did you use the boot.img.gz? |
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| 18:28.11 | mi1 | yes |
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| 18:28.45 | Appetite | i have NFS and this line in /etc/exports: '/data 192.168.2.*(rw,insecure,fsid=0,async,no_subtree_check)' but when i mount on my client, i'm getting permission denied |
| 18:29.00 | jauiwojau | jhutchins_li: how do I call the X session most elegantly? |
| 18:29.05 | jauiwojau | sorry kill |
| 18:29.27 | jhutchins_lt | It should die if you kill gdm - /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
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| 18:29.55 | jauiwojau | ah, but that doesn't happen when you use gdm restart??? |
| 18:30.03 | jauiwojau | because that is what I used... |
| 18:30.07 | dvs | mi1: "After that, mount the USB memory stick (mount /dev/sdX /mnt), which will now have a FAT filesystem on it, and copy a Debian netinst or businesscard ISO image to it. Unmount the stick (umount /mnt) and you are done." |
| 18:30.21 | dvs | mi1; Straight from the guide |
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| 18:30.30 | mi1 | dvs: i tried that |
| 18:30.31 | rking | Appetite: there has to be a verbose mode |
| 18:30.37 | jhutchins_lt | jauiwojau: I've found that things don't always shut down completely with restart. |
| 18:30.44 | Appetite | rking: what do you mean? |
| 18:30.46 | mi1 | i guess its not detecting my hd |
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| 18:31.14 | rking | Appetite: what command are you using to mount it? |
| 18:31.30 | Appetite | rking: mount -t nfs 192.168.2.4:/data /server |
| 18:31.38 | tharkun | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:31.42 | Appetite | rking: it mounts fine, and i can ls some dirs, but some i can't, and i can't write at all |
| 18:31.44 | Lns | With "apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree", I get, after it downloads install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz, says "md5sum rejected install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz" and fails to install. Any clues? I'm on Lenny installing from backports.. |
| 18:32.01 | jauiwojau | jhutchins_lt: Ah, I see. Nice. Thanks. Another question, related to this, how can I get a list of all running processes (command line). jobs -l doesn't show everything... |
| 18:32.15 | jhutchins_lt | Lns: uninstall it, remove any tar.gz, try again. |
| 18:32.21 | rking | Appetite: Ahh, ok... that's a different story than I assumed when you said, "When I mount I'm getting permission denied." |
| 18:32.23 | Lns | jhutchins: did that twice ;) |
| 18:32.26 | jhutchins_lt | ps ax |
| 18:32.37 | Appetite | rking: ah ok, sorry. any tips now? |
| 18:32.51 | Lns | jhutchins: err, actually i didn't remove the .tar.gz but it seems to download every time,... |
| 18:33.04 | jauiwojau | jhutchins_lt: you are an angel. It works. |
| 18:33.11 | rking | Appetite: what can you tell about the dirs you can ls and the ones you can't? If you ls -ld dirthatworks dirthatdoesntwork ; what is the difference? |
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| 18:34.23 | jelly | Appetite: are you doing this as user or as root? does the numeric uid of the user have write permissions for the file/dir yuo try to write? |
| 18:34.38 | Appetite | rking: /server itself is drwxr-xr-x, one i can't ls is drwx------ |
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| 18:34.43 | Appetite | jelly: i tried with and without root |
| 18:34.44 | jelly | Appetite: are you aware of root squashing with NFS? |
| 18:34.59 | Appetite | jelly: i read about it but don't know specifically what it is |
| 18:35.15 | rking | Appetite: do you know how to read those drwxr-xr-x lines? |
| 18:35.19 | jelly | Appetite: root on client = nobody on server, by default |
| 18:35.26 | Appetite | yeah rking |
| 18:35.44 | jauiwojau | jhutchins_lt: thanks 4 your help... Really appreciated it. |
| 18:35.46 | Appetite | jelly: so i have to be logged in under the same login name on the client as the server to access files owned by said user? |
| 18:35.48 | jauiwojau | bye |
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| 18:35.57 | jhutchins_lt | jauiwojau: Always happy to help if I can. |
| 18:35.59 | Lns | jhutchins_lt: yeah, still doesn't like it after purging everything and deleting some flashplugin-nonfree dir in /tmp |
| 18:36.12 | Lns | stupid flash... |
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| 18:36.34 | jelly | Appetite: is the mod 700 directory owned by the same (numeric) uid that is accessing as client? If it's not, then this is normal behaviour. |
| 18:36.47 | wal3 | hello. when I use my usb headset under ubuntu I cannot regulate the volume. when I go under 100% sound is completly off. whats wrong? |
| 18:36.56 | Appetite | jelly: ah, can i prevent root squashing then? |
| 18:36.58 | jhutchins_lt | Lns: You can try installing it from the Adobe site. |
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| 18:37.04 | jelly | Appetite: man exports |
| 18:37.05 | Appetite | jelly: some are owned by root, some aren't |
| 18:37.13 | Lns | jhutchins_lt: that's what i'm gonna have to do i guess. thanks |
| 18:37.21 | jelly | Appetite: in general, you don't want to use no_root_squash |
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| 18:37.32 | Appetite | jelly: but what should i do if it is owned by root then? |
| 18:37.43 | jelly | Appetite: don't export files owned by root rw |
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| 18:38.09 | jelly | Appetite: what are you using the nfs export for? |
| 18:38.25 | Appetite | jelly: diskless nodes + sharing multimedia over the network |
| 18:39.07 | jelly | oh, for diskless you might need it. I'd use a separate share for data files. |
| 18:39.22 | Appetite | alright jelly, thanks :) |
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| 18:40.37 | hochron | hi, I have a problem using k3b and burning a cd... it is a dvd burner but I cannot burn dvd's with it, the log from k3b is here http://pastebin.com/65PVUZBf |
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| 18:44.58 | jhutchins_lt | hochron: There was a bug with k3b where it failed to verify good burns, that kinda looks like what you have. |
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| 18:45.30 | jhutchins_lt | hochron: md5sum /dev/hdc, compare with md5sum *.iso |
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| 18:46.13 | tharkun | Is the debian installer inteligent enough to detect the cciss driver for a hwraid card on the fly? Is this driver available on the netinst cd or is it capable of downloading it on the fly? |
| 18:48.26 | jhutchins_lt | !tell tharkun about installer firmware |
| 18:49.06 | karsten | jordanm: sivel: thanks, sorry, meeting. |
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| 18:49.55 | karsten | jordanm: I'm looking for something to run batch mode. We get mysql blocked-ports alerts, and I'd like to check what site load time for a set of URLs is at that point. Actually gathering comparative benchmark data would also be useful. |
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| 18:50.39 | karsten | Something as simple as wget, curl, or a lynx / w3m -dump, timed, might work. |
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| 18:50.47 | karsten | abrotman: What's ab2? |
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| 18:51.27 | abrotman | karsten: apache bench |
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| 18:51.35 | abrotman | !ab |
| 18:51.35 | dpkg | ab is 'apache benchmark'. it gives you an idea on how the daemon processes documents. be aware of the various overheads like disk I/O, network, and other things when you use it. better yet, 'man ab'. |
| 18:51.41 | hochron | ok thanks |
| 18:51.42 | abrotman | pretty sure it's now ab2 .. |
| 18:51.48 | tharkun | jhutchins_lt: not my case but anyway thx for the info very interesting |
| 18:52.31 | karsten | The key part is getting response while we're experiencing DB issues (or other site issues). I get email alerts, so I'm looking to trigger this probably through procmail as the mail comes in. |
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| 18:56.12 | jhutchins_lt | karsten: Always a challenge to catch an intermittent. |
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| 18:58.16 | abrotman | karsten: huh ? |
| 18:58.32 | abrotman | karsten: you want mail or www beatings? |
| 18:58.36 | tharkun | cron vmstat netstat are your friends :) |
| 18:58.45 | hochron | jhutchins_lt: I got an input/output error on /dev/hdc |
| 18:59.23 | jhutchins_lt | hochron: In response to what? |
| 18:59.32 | anisfarhana | ELF 64-bit LSB relocatable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped , what type of file is this ? |
| 19:00.01 | jhutchins_lt | anisfarhana: It's an ELF 64-bit LSB relocatable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), not stripped |
| 19:00.06 | hochron | jhutchins_lt: md5sum /dev/hdc.... is my drive broke? |
| 19:00.17 | jhutchins_lt | hochron: Disk in drive? |
| 19:00.27 | anisfarhana | ducks |
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| 19:00.54 | piklu | dbconfig-common: writing config to /etc/dbconfig-common/cacti.conf *** WARNING: ucf was run from a maintainer script that uses debconf, but the script did not pass --debconf-ok to ucf. The maintainer script should be fixed to not stop debconf before calling ucf, and pass it this parameter. For now, ucf will revert to using old-style, non-debconf prompting. Ugh! |
| 19:00.56 | anisfarhana | jhutchins_lt: when i try to execute it , i got "cannot execute binary file" |
| 19:01.00 | hochron | yes and its mounted |
| 19:01.01 | piklu | this is what ? |
| 19:01.20 | jhutchins_lt | anisfarhana: Possibly you're trying to run an x86-64 file on a different system? |
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| 19:01.34 | simonrvn | like i386... |
| 19:01.43 | anisfarhana | jhutchins_lt: is it possible to change it ? |
| 19:02.02 | anisfarhana | i can see i686 from uname -a here |
| 19:02.03 | jhutchins_lt | anisfarhana: recompile it for the system you're on. |
| 19:02.28 | OldParr | i have a file called debian-503-i386-netinst.iso i did not dowmloaded , why? |
| 19:02.47 | simonrvn | because you didn't download it? |
| 19:02.50 | hochron | jhutchins_lt: there is the disk that blew up in the drive and it is mounted |
| 19:02.52 | Appetite | what was that link to make the debian boot usb? that required boot.img.gz and something else? |
| 19:03.00 | simonrvn | !ig |
| 19:03.01 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0.4) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual . See also <errata> and <installer firmware>. |
| 19:03.09 | simonrvn | read ^^ Appetite |
| 19:03.23 | jhutchins_lt | hochron: Well, if it's mounted, can you read it? You may need to unmount it to md5sum it. |
| 19:03.36 | hochron | jhutchins_lt: oh ok |
| 19:04.22 | jhutchins_lt | hochron: If it's not just a verification error, is the disk big enough for the image you were writing? It _looks_ like the write process completed successfully. |
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| 19:05.34 | hochron | jhutchins_lt: ok, I just realized that I dont want to burn this image |
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| 19:06.30 | simonrvn | *blink* |
| 19:06.43 | chomwitt | hi.in squeeze i managed to type ï , ö , ü etc using composite+i and " .. but when i turn to german keyboard i dont know how to insert umlaut chars |
| 19:07.08 | simonrvn | compose* |
| 19:07.40 | OldParr | how do i run dpkg-configure -a |
| 19:08.02 | anisfarhana | jhutchins_lt: solved! thanks :) |
| 19:08.11 | anisfarhana | hugs her debian box :D |
| 19:08.28 | jhutchins_lt | anisfarhana: Great. |
| 19:08.52 | jelly | OldParr: do you mean dpkg --configure -a ? |
| 19:08.57 | OldParr | how do i run "dpkg-configure -a" yes to everithing will it detect and configure my new motherboard and ram ? |
| 19:09.22 | jelly | OldParr: what do you actually want to do? |
| 19:09.35 | OldParr | i run "dpkg-configure -a" saying yes to everithing, will it detect and configure my new motherboard and ram ? |
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| 19:09.46 | abrotman | OldParr: that doesn't really have much to do with it |
| 19:09.53 | OldParr | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.01 | abrotman | OldParr: STOP |
| 19:10.17 | abrotman | OldParr: what is the actual problem with your new motherboard ? |
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| 19:12.26 | prodcutnews | vi editor robs my sleep, i could i fall in love with it |
| 19:13.28 | karsten | abrotman: ...thanks. |
| 19:13.35 | abrotman | karsten: not useful ? |
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| 19:14.45 | karsten | jhutchins_lt: Yeah, that's why I'm leaning toward running something locally that records load times and allows me to do my own plotting / graphics, with the procmail triggering, say, a review of the past hour's data or something like that. |
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| 19:15.02 | karsten | abrotman: Useful. Acknowledging the fact. I wasn't aware of ab/ab2 at all. |
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| 19:15.18 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 19:15.22 | karsten | wonders if it's possible to get a six-pac ab2..... |
| 19:15.30 | abrotman | yoga! |
| 19:15.40 | karsten | abrotman: www beatings. |
| 19:15.40 | OldParr | abrotman: i changed the motherboard and the ram but i left only the pata harddisk and cd burner alse left a sata DVD burner, after that debian does not connects to internet, but i switched to windows and ran "ipconfig /release" and "ipconfig /renew" from a command line, after that i switched to debian again and the internet was back, my question is do i must run "dpkg-configure -a" anwering yes to every question it makes ? |
| 19:15.42 | karsten | abrotman: squats@! |
| 19:16.08 | jhutchins_lt | OldParr: No. |
| 19:16.15 | jhutchins_lt | OldParr: Why would you reconfigure your desktop? |
| 19:16.20 | jhutchins_lt | OldParr: Your networking is OK now? |
| 19:16.28 | OldParr | abrotman: i changed the proccessor too ....... |
| 19:16.30 | abrotman | OldParr: no |
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| 19:16.37 | karsten | anisfarhana: What was the resolution? |
| 19:16.46 | abrotman | OldParr: you shouldn't have had to do anything in windows either |
| 19:16.49 | jhutchins_lt | OldParr: The processor has nothing to do with networking. |
| 19:17.01 | karsten | anisfarhana: 'ldd' can be your friend as well (shows linked libs, though this looked more like a kernel magick issue). |
| 19:17.03 | OldParr | jhutchins_lt: yes networking is ok now ...... |
| 19:17.14 | anisfarhana | karsten: gcc -o test test.c |
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| 19:17.18 | jhutchins_lt | OldParr: Is anything _not_ OK? |
| 19:17.33 | karsten | anisfarhana: when in doubt, rebuild ;-) What's the file type now? |
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| 19:17.54 | Bushmills | maybe you need to request a new registration code from debian.org :D |
| 19:18.06 | anisfarhana | karsten: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.8, not stripped |
| 19:18.18 | karsten | !fishsmite Bushmills |
| 19:18.18 | dpkg | slaps Bushmills around a bit with a large flounder |
| 19:18.30 | karsten | anisfarhana: Looks like you've got a 32-bit system. |
| 19:18.30 | Bushmills | !beer karsten |
| 19:18.30 | dpkg | pours a litre of Bornem Tripple for karsten |
| 19:18.34 | simonrvn | !lart Bushmills |
| 19:18.34 | dpkg | whacks Bushmills with a giant beaver's tail |
| 19:18.43 | anisfarhana | karsten: yup |
| 19:18.51 | karsten | Bushmills: I've got some pirate Debian keys I'll sell. |
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| 19:19.22 | simonrvn | Bushmills: i have list, 2 dvds' worth |
| 19:19.29 | simonrvn | a* |
| 19:19.34 | simonrvn | :P |
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| 19:20.18 | OldParr | jhutchins_lt: only the wired network connection icon appears on the bar below instead of appearing on the upper bar also the pidging icon appears down there intead of appearing on the upper bar, but the rest is all ok. |
| 19:22.31 | jhutchins_lt | OldParr: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. |
| 19:25.00 | Appetite | does anyone know of any command-line torrent tools.... like uTorrent or Transmission but without a WM? |
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| 19:25.25 | anisfarhana | jhutchins_lt / karsten : thanks again |
| 19:25.27 | anisfarhana | i should go to bed |
| 19:25.32 | anisfarhana | 3.25 am :/ |
| 19:25.38 | jhutchins_lt | Appetite: bittorrent |
| 19:25.50 | jhutchins_lt | anisfarhana: Quite welcome. Sleep well. |
| 19:25.51 | Appetite | jhutchins_lt: ah, alrighty |
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| 19:28.51 | ne7work | heloo |
| 19:28.53 | ne7work | hello all |
| 19:28.55 | ne7work | i need some help |
| 19:29.04 | jelly | Appetite: rtorrent has a curses ui |
| 19:29.05 | ne7work | i burn netinst image to my DVD-RW disc |
| 19:29.20 | ne7work | and now i need some help to go install |
| 19:29.28 | ne7work | when I boot this cd and go to install.. |
| 19:29.30 | Appetite | jelly: ah it does? /me installs |
| 19:29.41 | ne7work | where I can go to configure my pppoe connection to installation begin |
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| 19:29.49 | ne7work | please someone tell me or give me some information ;( |
| 19:29.55 | jelly | Appetite: really weird keyboard commands, but nice when you get used to it |
| 19:30.09 | jhutchins_lt | !tell ne7work about ig |
| 19:30.18 | Bushmills | ne7work: pppoe-setup or pppoe-config |
| 19:30.24 | Appetite | jelly: i never interact much with torrent clients much anyway, once i start the torrent it goes out of sight |
| 19:30.52 | ne7work | Bushmills, and where i type this pppoe-setup |
| 19:31.01 | ne7work | where I can open terminal or..? |
| 19:31.09 | jelly | Appetite: you don't like looking at bits and pieces coming in and out? |
| 19:31.13 | jhutchins_lt | ne7work: See the message from dpkg. |
| 19:31.17 | ne7work | My iso is 180 mb netinst |
| 19:31.20 | Bushmills | ne7work: at your computer |
| 19:31.22 | jhutchins_lt | ne7work: It will answer other questions you haven't asked yet. |
| 19:31.28 | Appetite | jelly: i dont pay attention once it starts really. |
| 19:31.34 | Appetite | jelly: unless i need to throttle it for some reason |
| 19:31.38 | ne7work | my english is sucks please someone help me here |
| 19:31.39 | ne7work | i'm bulgarian |
| 19:31.44 | ne7work | and english for me is hard please :( |
| 19:31.50 | jhutchins_lt | !ig |
| 19:31.50 | dpkg | The Debian Installation Guide for Lenny (5.0.4) can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/installmanual . See also <errata> and <installer firmware>. |
| 19:32.02 | ne7work | and there what? |
| 19:32.02 | jhutchins_lt | ne7work: See above. |
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| 19:32.10 | jhutchins_lt | ne7work: Read. |
| 19:32.15 | jelly | Appetite: throttling is done with asdzxc keys for upload and ASDZXC for download |
| 19:32.17 | ne7work | where i need to go there for netinst |
| 19:32.32 | ne7work | well.. my english is sucks you tell me to read. |
| 19:32.33 | ne7work | well.. my english is sucks you tell me to read.. |
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| 19:32.45 | Appetite | jelly: o.o? |
| 19:32.46 | Bushmills | actually, pppoeconf was the name |
| 19:33.18 | jordanm | ne7work: its my understanding that the install guide is translate in *many* languages |
| 19:33.32 | jelly | Appetite: all/any of those; try it and see |
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| 19:33.41 | Appetite | alright jelly |
| 19:34.13 | jelly | Appetite: ctrl-s to start a stopped torrent; ctrl-q to exit app. |
| 19:34.22 | Appetite | thanks jelly ;p |
| 19:34.27 | jelly | rtfm for the rest |
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| 19:38.09 | ne7work | jordanm, and where you see bulgarian language? no where.. :( please help me |
| 19:38.38 | jhutchins_lt | ne7work: Does google do bulgarian? |
| 19:38.45 | netros | Hello, I want to get flashplayer for debian 5.0. I added deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free but I get the following error. |
| 19:38.53 | netros | http://pastebin.com/Lnf5zKtr |
| 19:38.55 | Bushmills | quick, jordanm, learn Bulgarian so you can give adequate help |
| 19:39.04 | netros | Have I done something wrong? |
| 19:39.14 | netros | I did apt-get update. |
| 19:39.43 | jordanm | opens up google translate |
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| 19:40.11 | jhutchins_lt | netros: I think it says how to add the key on the backports web page. |
| 19:40.20 | jordanm | netros: aptitude install debian-backports-keying; aptitude update; next time read the instructions page more closely |
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| 19:41.20 | netros | Ohh it does, my bad. |
| 19:41.31 | netros | Sorry! |
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| 19:42.18 | piklu | is ftp.us.debian.org down? |
| 19:42.32 | piklu | am not able to connect apt-get to use my packages |
| 19:42.59 | piklu | it does not pings either |
| 19:43.01 | piklu | how to change ? |
| 19:43.09 | jhutchins_lt | piklu: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ftp://ftp.us.debian.org |
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| 19:43.36 | piklu | open that urself first |
| 19:43.54 | jhutchins_lt | piklu: Sorry, doesn't like the ftp:// prefix, it's up. |
| 19:44.09 | piklu | just came up |
| 19:44.53 | piklu | again prob connecting |
| 19:44.57 | karlpinc | How would I use rz (zmodem) on the other end of a ssh link? I want to download some firmware. I can ssh to the device, but then it's download option starts zmodem, so I need rz connected to my end of the ssh link. |
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| 19:45.06 | piklu | How to use a different server ?? |
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| 19:45.22 | valdyn | karlpinc: why cant you use scp? |
| 19:45.23 | craigevil | piklu: use netselect-apt to choose a fast mirror |
| 19:45.53 | piklu | does not works |
| 19:46.07 | karlpinc | valdyn: Because the other end does not support it. |
| 19:46.08 | jordanm | piklu: it is having issues, I recommend craigevil's suggestion |
| 19:46.27 | jordanm | universities close to your area is typically a good choice |
| 19:46.28 | valdyn | karlpinc: what does it support? "cat" ? |
| 19:46.29 | piklu | jordanm: netselect-apt is not available |
| 19:46.43 | jordanm | !mirrors |
| 19:46.44 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, debian mirrors is http://www.debian.org/mirror/list or ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt | ask me about <apt-spy> or <netselect-apt> | to make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mirrors/, see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <mirror size>. |
| 19:46.45 | karlpinc | valdyn: No. It's got a stupid proprietary command line. |
| 19:46.58 | jordanm | piklu: pick one from the list then |
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| 19:47.19 | karlpinc | valdyn: I suspect it's running linux, but is volating the license. So I want to download the firmware and see. |
| 19:47.32 | jhutchins_lt | karlpinc: Hm. Kermit? |
| 19:47.45 | karlpinc | jhutchins_lt: How would I connect that to ssh? |
| 19:47.46 | jordanm | has a kermit users manual |
| 19:47.54 | lxsameer | i have some speed issue with all the debian mirrors , is there any way to define the number of connections that apt use for downloading a file ? ( number of file part for downloading ) |
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| 19:48.26 | jhutchins_lt | Sorry, I worked on zmodem, but I haven't had to use it since I started using linux. |
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| 19:48.40 | karlpinc | Maybe I could connect ssh to a local tcp port and use rz's tcp option.... |
| 19:48.41 | jhutchins_lt | You may be able to run it directly. |
| 19:49.10 | karlpinc | After using nc to login/issue the command to dump firmware |
| 19:49.29 | netros | md5sum rejected install_flash_player_10_linux.tar.gz I did add the key of backports.org but when apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree I get this. |
| 19:49.33 | netros | Why? |
| 19:50.10 | jhutchins_lt | netros: Didn't you already ask this earlier? |
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| 19:50.49 | netros | jhutchins_lt, No. |
| 19:50.58 | jhutchins_lt | netros: The possibilities are bad files on the servers, bad download connection, or corruption on the receiving end by a bad filesystem. |
| 19:51.13 | jhutchins_lt | If you're not the one who asked earlier, it could be we have bad source on the servers. |
| 19:51.32 | piklu | hello |
| 19:51.36 | abrotman | netros: probably was a flash update |
| 19:51.52 | netros | jhutchins_lt, I am not the one, I asked a different question above...hmm so what can I do in this instance |
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| 19:52.01 | jhutchins_lt | not much. |
| 19:52.05 | netros | I use deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free |
| 19:52.31 | jhutchins_lt | netros: That won't matter unless you us -t lenny-backports. |
| 19:52.44 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions flash-nonfree |
| 19:52.46 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'flash-nonfree' was found. |
| 19:52.52 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions flashplayer-nonfree |
| 19:52.54 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'flashplayer-nonfree' was found. |
| 19:53.00 | jhutchins_lt | mumble. |
| 19:53.28 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions flashplugin-nonfree |
| 19:53.29 | judd | flashplugin-nonfree -- etch-backports/contrib: 1:1.4~bpo40+1; lenny-backports/contrib: 1:2.5~bpo50+1; sid/contrib: 1:2.8; squeeze/contrib: 1:2.8 |
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| 19:55.31 | netros | I think it's a server issue. |
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| 19:57.01 | karlpinc | Here we go: ssh -o LocalCommand.... |
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| 19:58.30 | piklu | FTP.US.DEBIAN.ORG is 100% suffering from problem. |
| 19:58.50 | valdyn | piklu: and what is that problem? |
| 19:59.03 | jelly | valdyn: caps lock stuck problem |
| 19:59.06 | piklu | not responding properly..... |
| 19:59.32 | valdyn | piklu: try http://ftp.us.debian.org/ instead of ftp:// |
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| 19:59.54 | jelly | and http.us.debian.org instead of ftp.us.debian.org? |
| 19:59.56 | AimHere | If that doesn't work, try ftp.fr.debian.org and leech off those french ingrates |
| 20:00.07 | jelly | AimHere: serves'em right |
| 20:00.17 | valdyn | hmm, right, looks like ftp.us.d.o doesnt even support http |
| 20:00.20 | valdyn | ftp works fine however |
| 20:00.33 | jelly | valdyn: is there only one ip?! |
| 20:00.45 | valdyn | jelly: i doubt that |
| 20:00.59 | jelly | dig says six from here |
| 20:01.23 | jelly | wonders if cdn.debian.net works |
| 20:01.50 | jelly | geodns ftw |
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| 20:02.37 | piklu | I am trying installing cacti, but it does not seems to work the way people are telling me |
| 20:02.37 | jordanm | valdyn: it should support http, but I saw on the debian-users list that it was having issues |
| 20:02.43 | piklu | after install it does not runs |
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| 20:02.57 | jordanm | !doesn't work |
| 20:02.57 | dpkg | Look buddy, "doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions> and <errors>. |
| 20:03.14 | piklu | !shutup |
| 20:03.14 | dpkg | No! You can STFU yourself! The voice of truth cannot be silenced! Oh, except perhaps in China... |
| 20:03.26 | piklu | lol |
| 20:03.30 | piklu | !jordanm |
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| 20:03.57 | valdyn | 204.152.191.39 has issues |
| 20:04.38 | netros | lol that bot is funny |
| 20:05.03 | karlpinc | Looks like ssh -o PermitLocalCommand=yes does not connect the remote end to the local command. :-P |
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| 20:19.26 | jhutchins_lt | <chirp, chirp> |
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| 20:29.01 | HackeMate | hi |
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| 20:29.12 | HackeMate | how to enable rhythmbox to use iphone? |
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| 20:31.09 | lxsameer | can apt use socks5 proxies? |
| 20:31.40 | jelly | lxsameer: there are generic socks wrappers that may or may not work |
| 20:31.56 | lxsameer | jelly: like tsocks ? |
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| 20:32.43 | jelly | or dante-client |
| 20:32.58 | jelly | ("socksify" command in there) |
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| 20:33.23 | dutchfish | lxsameer: http://readlist.com/lists/lists.debian.org/debian-user/3/16316.html |
| 20:34.13 | jelly | that looks like a http_proxy, albeit with some sort of auth |
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| 20:35.24 | OldParr | please a debugger for c++ ? |
| 20:35.34 | jelly | gdb |
| 20:35.56 | jelly | it's not like there's a lot of choice |
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| 20:36.11 | OldParr | jelly: is graphic? |
| 20:36.16 | jelly | no |
| 20:36.29 | jelly | there are wrappers, but I can't say which are good |
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| 20:36.34 | jelly | does ddd do c++? |
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| 20:38.12 | jelly | OldParr: ddd is pretty much the only one I remember |
| 20:38.17 | dkr | yes |
| 20:39.08 | dominet | is it possible to verify if given account exists before sending email? |
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| 20:39.25 | jelly | dominet: only sometimes. |
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| 20:39.42 | jelly | dominet: if it's a local account, in general yes. |
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| 20:40.55 | jelly | dominet: sendmail and postfix have a "/usr/sbin/sendmail -bv email@address" delivery probe tool. I don't know whether that option is mandated or if other MTAs support it. |
| 20:41.10 | jelly | that works for locally delivered addresses |
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| 20:41.59 | wuffi600 | "/etc/init.d/fetchmail start" complains about missing /etc/fetchmailrc. Is there a minimal example? i would like to configure fetchmail that only users' ~/.fetchmailrc files are used to fetch userspecified things. So /etc/fetchmailrc should not contain any mailservers. I generated /etc/fetchmailrc with "set daemon 120" and set "yes" to /etc/default/fetchmail last line. But when trying to start fetchmail it complains about "no mailservers have |
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| 20:42.45 | jelly | I thought users run fetchmail themselves when they want do |
| 20:43.37 | \amethyst | that's typically how you would do it... /etc/init.d/fetchmail is for e.g. system-wide multidrop fetching |
| 20:43.51 | jhutchins_lt | wuffi600: You'll need to read a bit deeper into the fetchmail docs. |
| 20:43.56 | wuffi600 | jelly: sure, they could run fetchmail-command via cron or manually. .. and this is working with their ~/.fetchmailrc. But i would like to offer fetchmail as daemon to the users and don't like them to be able to use cron. |
| 20:44.29 | jhutchins_lt | wuffi600: I haven't really worked on it as a system-wide daemon, but I believe it expects all of the users' ~/.fetchmailrc's to be combined in the master. |
| 20:44.55 | jhutchins_lt | wuffi600: I don't know how it would know which users to fetch mail for otherwise. |
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| 20:45.41 | jelly | if users can write their own ~/.fetchmailrc and want a global service to read those, that could be a huge security issue |
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| 20:46.05 | jhutchins_lt | jelly: procmail |
| 20:46.17 | jelly | writes a fetchmailrc that delivers mail to his inbox at /etc/shadow |
| 20:46.54 | dominet | jelly: thank you, i wish to check non-local accounts but still - thanks for the hint |
| 20:47.01 | jelly | jhutchins_lt: I write my .fetchmailrc, I definite mda |
| 20:47.05 | jelly | define* |
| 20:47.12 | jhutchins_lt | Procmail knows to run as a given user because it's processing mail for that user. |
| 20:47.15 | dominet | btw can you send e-mail directly from command line? |
| 20:47.44 | jelly | echo test | mail recipient@example.org |
| 20:47.57 | dominet | i'm trying to send a list of passwords to my forum's users |
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| 20:48.05 | dominet | just not sure how it will go |
| 20:48.09 | dominet | will it* |
| 20:48.12 | AimHere | dominet, That used to be the way it was normally done |
| 20:48.34 | jelly | dominet: applications typically use the /usr/sbin/sendmail interface |
| 20:48.44 | dominet | hmhm but echo test | mail wqwe@ere.com does not include subject, does it? |
| 20:48.56 | jhutchins_lt | dominet: man mail |
| 20:48.59 | dominet | ok |
| 20:49.00 | jhutchins_lt | -s option |
| 20:49.01 | AimHere | There might be options in the mail program |
| 20:49.13 | jelly | dominet: one can pipe a whole gerenated message with headers to /usr/sbin/sendmail -oi -t |
| 20:49.15 | dominet | oh many thanks folks, that was it |
| 20:49.27 | dominet | jelly i read you now |
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| 20:49.38 | jelly | !timtowtdi |
| 20:49.39 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, timtowtdi is There Is More Than One Way To Do It. Perl's philosophy, or courtesy of Larry Wall of perl. |
| 20:49.52 | dominet | btw i use postfix... will it still work with mail? |
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| 20:50.22 | jelly | mail will do some stuff and hand off to /usr/sbin/sendmail command (which is part of postfix) |
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| 20:51.28 | jelly | dominet: if you plan on doing this often, you may want to use some mailing list software like Mailman. |
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| 20:52.05 | squisher | hey folks, I used to have two hdds, one with windows and one with linux. I just got a new computer, and moved the second hdd to the new computer. |
| 20:52.12 | jelly | take a bit of time to set up, but otoh it can manage bounces from nonexistent addresses and stuff |
| 20:52.16 | squisher | but I can't boot it, even after reinstalling grub |
| 20:52.19 | jhutchins_lt | dominet: Most mailers provide an emulation of the sendmail interface. |
| 20:52.26 | squisher | the BIOS just says no os found |
| 20:52.37 | jelly | jhutchins_lt: All MTAs in Debian _must_ do that |
| 20:53.07 | squisher | usually grub-install /dev/sda works just fine, this time around it seems to have no effect at all! |
| 20:53.12 | dominet | jelly: thank you very much again - will read up on that package |
| 20:53.12 | gandy909 | I'm wanting to obtain the actual list of packages that get installed at install time based on my choice(s) at the "Software Selection" dialog.Anyone know where this list is stored, or documented? |
| 20:53.13 | Bushmills | squisher: try to update-grub |
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| 20:53.58 | squisher | Bushmills, then another install? |
| 20:54.23 | Bushmills | no. update-grub, with the drive mounted so that /boot is visible |
| 20:54.42 | fat-lobyte | Hi, I use a mainly sqeeze system, but I have unstable in the sources pinned to a low priority. Unfortunately, I don't receive updates in unstable, instead, the current package is marked as "locally installed" |
| 20:54.56 | squisher | hmm, don't see how that would make a difference, but I'll try it |
| 20:55.00 | fat-lobyte | does anybody know how to get updates for the packages I have pinned from unstable? |
| 20:55.13 | Bushmills | that writes the grub config file to /boot/grub |
| 20:55.50 | squisher | Bushmills, you do know that the BIOS wouldn't report "no OS" if grub.cfg is missing? :) |
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| 20:56.38 | hochron | what is the wodim syntax? |
| 20:56.39 | squisher | no difference unfortunately |
| 20:56.40 | Bushmills | i considered it a possibility that the message came from the MBR boot loader |
| 20:56.46 | jhutchins_lt | squisher: BIOS sees both drives? |
| 20:56.47 | squisher | nope, it's an OS message |
| 20:57.00 | squisher | jhutchins, only one drive now, and yes, the bios detects it |
| 20:57.07 | squisher | s/OS/BIOS/ |
| 20:58.10 | jhutchins_lt | squisher: Well, you may have trouble with the grub menu and the fstab pointing to the wrong drive, but if the bios isn't seeing grub as the mbr you have other problems. |
| 20:58.12 | Bushmills | but if you insist that it is from BIOS, then don't run grub-update. but see that you get an MBR installed to disk instead |
| 20:58.53 | squisher | Bushmills, yeah, but grub-install just says "no errors reported" |
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| 21:02.45 | jhutchins_lt | squisher: Have you checked your menu.list to make sure it still makes sense with the new configuration? |
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| 21:04.21 | waza-ari | hey all. Can anyone tell me, why date is giving out the wrong date, though local time is set? : http://pastebin.ca/1880728 |
| 21:04.23 | wuffi600 | jhutchins_lt: so users' .fetchmailrc files have nothing to the with the daemon-mode of fetchmail that is run using /etc/init.d/fetchmail. right? The ~/.fetchmailrc is only of importance if the owning user runs fetchmail himself, right? |
| 21:06.01 | squisher | jhutchins_lt, it's not seeing it - otherwise grub gives an error message |
| 21:06.03 | jhutchins_lt | wuffi600: I don't know. It's been years since I worked on it. The only way I've run it as a system daemon is to have a master rc file. |
| 21:06.11 | squisher | or in case of grub-pc, you enter a resuce shell |
| 21:06.20 | squisher | ehem, it == grub |
| 21:06.22 | jhutchins_lt | wuffi600: The documentation is excellent. |
| 21:06.50 | jhutchins_lt | wuffi600: I suppose you could achieve what you want by writing a start-up script that checks for .fetchmailrc files and copies them into a central file. |
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| 21:08.34 | jhutchins_lt | wuffi600: Seriously, though, if you can't find a definitive answer in the man page and docs join the list and ask - it'll probably get the docs updated. |
| 21:08.34 | gandy909 | I'm wanting to obtain the actual list of packages that get installed at install time based on my choice(s) at the "Software Selection" dialog.Anyone know where this list is stored, or documented? |
| 21:08.34 | jhutchins_lt | (That's about all I'm good for on a project is clarifying documentation.) |
| 21:08.34 | squisher | wuffi600, just a suggestion, but getmail is a very nice alternative to fetchmail.. maybe it a better way of operation |
| 21:09.01 | wuffi600 | jhutchins_lt, yes that would be possible but it won't be a cute solution. Another way would be to loop for every user that has loginshell and a homedirectory if he has a .fetchmailrc in his home and then sudo fetchmail for this user. |
| 21:09.13 | squisher | jhutchins_lt, the bios actually shows the HDD's name, so I know the bios sees it |
| 21:09.42 | jhutchins_lt | So the BIOS can't find grub in the mbr of the drive. |
| 21:09.48 | squisher | right |
| 21:10.12 | jhutchins_lt | Which either means the BIOS can't read the mbr, or the mbr doesn't contain grub. |
| 21:10.26 | squisher | I tried to do a 'grub-install /dev/sda' and a 'grub-install (hd0)' after booting in rescue mode from an install CD |
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| 21:10.45 | squisher | seems so |
| 21:10.58 | Gentoochild | hi there. is the net install CD capable of getting its packages over a VPNC connection? |
| 21:11.05 | jhutchins_lt | grub-install doesn't always work and doesn't always report errors correctly. |
| 21:11.22 | jhutchins_lt | squisher: You may need to run grub and do the install manually. |
| 21:11.35 | jhutchins_lt | squisher: I still think you need to double-check your menu.list and fstab. |
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| 21:11.54 | waza-ari | anyone can explain me this date behaviour: http://pastebin.ca/1880728 ? thanks in advance |
| 21:12.05 | jhutchins_lt | !tell Gentoochild about ig |
| 21:12.12 | squisher | jhutchins_lt, do you recall the command in the grub shell? Just 'install'? |
| 21:12.17 | jhutchins_lt | Gentoochild: Dunno, the answer woudl be there. |
| 21:12.22 | jhutchins_lt | squisher: man grub? |
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| 21:12.47 | Gentoochild | actually, I'm going to use a testing image, but I'm sure the same will apply there |
| 21:13.10 | jhutchins_lt | Gentoochild: All the more reason to read the ig first. |
| 21:13.33 | jhutchins_lt | Gentoochild: I'm not sure there is a working installer for squeeze, I know there isn't for sid. |
| 21:13.50 | jhutchins_lt | ('course these things change from day to day, that's the point.) |
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| 21:14.58 | Gentoochild | well, naïve as I am, I would have downloaded the first image from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/ and went from there |
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| 21:15.52 | djura-san | o/ |
| 21:16.29 | lxsameer | does any one know about howto force rsync to use socks5 proxy ? i try RSYNC_PROXY env var but does not work |
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| 21:16.55 | squisher | jhutchins_lt, hmm, grub-pc doesn't install a simple 'grub' command any more |
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| 21:17.40 | lindi- | lxsameer: RSYNC_PROXY expect a http proxy |
| 21:17.40 | lindi- | lxsameer: use tsocks? |
| 21:17.40 | lindi- | lxsameer: are you really using rsync without ssh? |
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| 21:17.55 | wieshka | http://pastebin.com/R5pCDHDd can somebody help with this debian/perl related error |
| 21:18.00 | wieshka | running debian lenny 64 bit |
| 21:18.27 | lxsameer | lindi-: i try tsocks before , what do you mean without ssh ? |
| 21:19.03 | lindi- | lxsameer: are you using rsync with ssh? |
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| 21:19.32 | lxsameer | lindi-: no i think , i use debmirror and debmirror use rsync |
| 21:20.01 | lindi- | lxsameer: what's the rsync command line? |
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| 21:20.27 | lxsameer | lindi-: let me explore debmirror for that |
| 21:22.34 | lxsameer | lindi-: i think without ssh |
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| 21:26.29 | mick_laptop | anyone know why rsync might miss a few files? rsync -vaz --rsh="ssh -c blowfish" /var/www/www.myserver.com/live/ me@myserver.com/var/www/www.myserver.com/ |
| 21:26.48 | mick_laptop | the directory contents are different but directory sizes are the same |
| 21:28.10 | mick_laptop | # ls -las |
| 21:28.10 | mick_laptop | total 1588 |
| 21:28.20 | mick_laptop | # ls -l |
| 21:28.21 | mick_laptop | total 348 |
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| 21:28.32 | mick_laptop | so it isn't moving everything over for sure |
| 21:28.43 | mick_laptop | it is 4 gigs, so i'd prefer to rync |
| 21:28.48 | mick_laptop | rsync* |
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| 21:35.45 | noo | hey I just tried to install debian lenny on an eeepc and it was almost successful but in the end it failed to install grub2 and now I dont have a proper bootloader at all. I dont know what to do cause I get into the GNU GRUB version 1.98-1 console no matter what I do. I have nooo clue at all what to do can anybody help me please. |
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| 21:36.34 | lxsameer | is it possible to create a web proxy base on a socks5 proxy ? |
| 21:37.51 | Tramp | lxsameer: privoxy can use an existing socks proxy |
| 21:37.54 | project2501b | hey guys, i just inserted a new pcmcia card into my laptop. it's a soundcard. whateversounddeamon debian is using right now, it's not sending the sound through the soundcard |
| 21:38.12 | lxsameer | Tramp: thanks |
| 21:38.12 | project2501b | whut am i doing wrong? |
| 21:38.25 | Tramp | yw |
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| 21:40.20 | mick_laptop | noo: then reinstall - if it failed |
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| 21:40.45 | mick_laptop | project2501b: it is probably muted |
| 21:40.53 | mick_laptop | project2501b: check alsamixer |
| 21:41.02 | mick_laptop | hit "m" to unmute |
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| 21:41.39 | project2501b | mick_laptop: i did check. it's not muted |
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| 21:41.49 | daedaluz | can I install zypper in Debian? |
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| 21:42.02 | mick_laptop | ~alsa |
| 21:42.03 | apt | alsa is probably the Advanced Linux Sound Architecture, or at http://www.alsa-project.org/, or available only for Linux (if you intend your code to be portable, ask me about OSS) |
| 21:42.14 | mick_laptop | ~alsaconf |
| 21:42.31 | mick_laptop | err, damned what was that factoid |
| 21:42.47 | krzysz00 | why do i get strange pixels on my consoles only when running a shell and using framebuffer? |
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| 21:43.20 | adv_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.39 | noo | mick_laptop well I would do that but I cant boot from usb anymore. I ALWAYS get into this grub shell and somehow the shell doesnt know the kernel command to load a kernel. |
| 21:43.40 | mick_laptop | daedaluz: why would you want to do that? |
| 21:44.04 | mick_laptop | noo: "b" in grub |
| 21:44.09 | project2501b | alsamixer does see the soundcard: it shows the device, but no app uses it |
| 21:44.20 | mick_laptop | dpkg: tell project2501b about alsa checklist |
| 21:44.23 | daedaluz | mick_laptop: flexibility |
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| 21:45.17 | project2501b | mick_laptop: 10-4, doing. |
| 21:45.24 | project2501b | waves to chomwitt |
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| 21:45.32 | project2501b | all we need is the Kota here |
| 21:45.35 | project2501b | kot kot kot |
| 21:45.48 | zcat[1] | Trying to maintain a system with more than one completely incompatable package management system isn't flexible, it's just retarded |
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| 21:46.35 | noo | mick_laptop sorry but I didnt get what you mean by "b" |
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| 21:47.40 | jordanm | mick_laptop: I have been rather active in this channel for many months and I never even knew we had that bot |
| 21:47.44 | noo | mick_laptop if I type b into the shell then he doesnt know this command |
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| 21:50.07 | mick_laptop | daedaluz: something tells me you are a bit lost. (i have managed SuSE installs /win 16 |
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| 21:50.35 | mick_laptop | i did for a few years, and i can tell you that you don't need or want zypper |
| 21:51.02 | r0nin | checked dmesg and I'm having tons of sshd segfault, whats that mean exactly? |
| 21:51.04 | r0nin | http://pastebin.org/323597 |
| 21:51.04 | jordanm | isn't that their replacement for yum? |
| 21:51.05 | mick_laptop | though yast isn't that bad really and zypper is a step up |
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| 21:51.29 | mick_laptop | jordanm: basically, and it hooks into yast2 |
| 21:51.42 | jordanm | oh, I see now, he wanted zypper on debian... |
| 21:51.51 | jordanm | can't comprehend why |
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| 21:52.06 | mick_laptop | jordanm: right |
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| 21:52.31 | daedaluz | mick_laptop: so Debian *does* allow me to choose repository to use for individual packages? |
| 21:52.43 | jordanm | daedaluz: yes |
| 21:52.48 | jelly-home | r0nin: which debian release is this? Can you pastebin the output of netstat -tupan |
| 21:52.54 | mick_laptop | daedaluz: once you use things like apt-listbugs you will wonder how you even used suse before w/o ripping your hair out |
| 21:52.59 | daedaluz | cool then, gotta google more throughoughtly then |
| 21:53.07 | jordanm | daedaluz: although, generally, you will not be mixing repositories |
| 21:53.15 | jordanm | !tell daedaluz about pinning |
| 21:53.17 | mick_laptop | daedaluz: /etc/apt/sources.list has the list |
| 21:53.18 | jordanm | !tell daedaluz about hold |
| 21:53.44 | jordanm | well, also /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ too, but he should see that in "man sources.list" :) |
| 21:53.47 | craigevil | apt-pinning is a very last resort, and a good way to break things |
| 21:54.02 | noo | could anybody please help me a little bit cause I dont know what to do |
| 21:54.12 | mick_laptop | noo: reinstall - seriously |
| 21:54.15 | jordanm | craigevil: yes, but the question here was whether or not apt allows the admin to choose a repository for individual packages |
| 21:54.16 | r0nin | http://pastebin.org/323599 |
| 21:54.19 | r0nin | its Lenny |
| 21:54.24 | mick_laptop | if that went wrong - who knows what else went wrong |
| 21:54.44 | mick_laptop | r0nin: let me have a look |
| 21:54.46 | worldi | hi, there's a box that got pwned and now I'm trying to clean up the mess. the problem is that I can't delete the backdoored /usr/sbin/sshd (permission denied...). any hints? |
| 21:54.56 | mick_laptop | oh ya, and btw - i still have that rsync/ssh question :P |
| 21:55.00 | jelly-home | r0nin: run it as root please |
| 21:55.21 | mick_laptop | worldi: provision another box and move over the important things |
| 21:55.21 | daedaluz | jordanm, mick_laptop: thanks for help |
| 21:55.37 | mick_laptop | worldi: always reinstall over an owned box |
| 21:55.45 | noo | yes I would love to reinstall it but i simply cant cause I cant load the installer boot |
| 21:55.51 | mick_laptop | worldi: and use an IDS |
| 21:56.13 | zcat[1] | worldi: only real option after getting rooted is a fresh install.. a new box and move things over, or make backups of /home, sqldumps, etc and reinstall. |
| 21:56.15 | r0nin | http://pastebin.org/323601 |
| 21:56.21 | mick_laptop | noo: btw there is a #debian-eeepc channel |
| 21:56.23 | worldi | mick_laptop: if this was my box I'd sure reinstall it ... but it isn't mine |
| 21:56.28 | r0nin | worldi: livecd? |
| 21:56.28 | mick_laptop | i have an eeepc and i didn't have issues |
| 21:56.41 | worldi | r0nin: remote access only |
| 21:56.44 | mick_laptop | worldi: then provision another box, and migrate |
| 21:57.00 | zcat[1] | 'cleaning' a rootkit out is usually harder than doing a fresh install, and you will never be sure you got everything |
| 21:57.05 | mick_laptop | in the meantime use iptables (or a hw firewall) to lock it down |
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| 21:57.17 | mick_laptop | zcat[1]++ |
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| 21:57.33 | jelly-home | r0nin: is there a real reason why cron would connect to outside irc servers? Your machine nay have been compromised |
| 21:57.55 | noo | mick_laptop thanks I go there when i start installing it again but for the time being I only got from this grub command line to an initramfs command line by loading the kernel with "linux kernelname" and "initrd initrdfile" |
| 21:58.08 | jelly-home | r0nin: please also pastebin "lsof -n -p 500" and "pstree -Apa " |
| 21:58.09 | r0nin | jelly-home: hmm, didn't even notice that |
| 21:58.19 | noo | mick_laptop what shall I do now? any hints |
| 21:58.21 | lindi- | jelly-home: there's no crond in debian |
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| 21:59.06 | lindi- | r0nin: bette remove the box from internet right now |
| 21:59.13 | mick_laptop | r0nin: what i read online is that it might be bad ram |
| 21:59.19 | r0nin | http://pastebin.org/323606 |
| 21:59.19 | mick_laptop | try to check w/ memtest86 |
| 21:59.44 | r0nin | http://pastebin.org/323607 |
| 21:59.57 | mick_laptop | is that a fedora box? |
| 22:00.05 | r0nin | mick_laptop: what you think about crond? |
| 22:00.25 | r0nin | jelly-home: seriously? |
| 22:00.28 | OldParr | area not debuggers in debian repos ? |
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| 22:00.41 | jelly-home | r0nin: at least user "rena" seems to have been compromised. |
| 22:00.45 | OldParr | i meqan c++ debuggers |
| 22:00.47 | raz | x |
| 22:01.19 | jelly-home | r0nin: http://pastebin.org/323606 is very nice to look at. |
| 22:01.48 | jelly-home | r0nin: I'd lock that user out and pkill -9 -u rena |
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| 22:02.14 | r0nin | I just removed rena, dont really use it anyway |
| 22:02.14 | mick_laptop | heh: crond 500 rena 1u IPv4 53539422 TCP 10.1.78.30:43092->38.114.116.5:ircd (SYN_SENT) |
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| 22:02.26 | r0nin | how exactly could you tell |
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| 22:02.47 | jelly-home | r0nin: was that a remote user? is this a multiuser machine? |
| 22:03.14 | worldi | .oO( strings /usr/sbin/sshd | grep pieceofshit88 | wc -l -> 1 ) |
| 22:03.22 | jelly-home | r0nin: does this machine have internet-visible services or a public ip address? |
| 22:03.28 | r0nin | it was a user that will use a samba share |
| 22:03.36 | r0nin | it runs sftp |
| 22:03.53 | jelly-home | it runs quite a bit more than sftp. |
| 22:04.06 | mick_laptop | lol |
| 22:04.06 | r0nin | o_0 |
| 22:04.21 | mick_laptop | yet another person who should do a reinstall |
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| 22:04.24 | mick_laptop | and use an IDS |
| 22:04.30 | jelly-home | r0nin: however, you didn't answer the questions |
| 22:04.39 | \amethyst | what version of samba are you running? |
| 22:04.44 | r0nin | jelly-home: which? |
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| 22:05.13 | project2501b | mick_laptop: item no4 on the list: what does "oss modules unloaded" mean? which are the oss modules? |
| 22:05.18 | r0nin | Samba version 3.2.5 |
| 22:05.19 | jelly-home | the latter ones, and multiuser machine, too; by that I mean, was that user able to login in with an interactive shell |
| 22:05.31 | mick_laptop | anyone know why rsync might miss a lot of files? rsync -vaz --rsh="ssh -c blowfish" /var/www/www.myserver.com/live/ me@myserver.com/var/www/www.myserver.com/ |
| 22:05.43 | r0nin | jelly-home: yes it is a multiuser machine |
| 22:05.49 | \amethyst | r0nin: more specifically? dpkg -l samba |
| 22:05.52 | mick_laptop | if someone knows, please /msg me - i need to go |
| 22:06.12 | jelly-home | r0nin: have you locked the user out and kill-9ed their processes? |
| 22:06.30 | r0nin | uld only have been about to use samb |
| 22:06.40 | r0nin | samba 2:3.2.5-4lenny9 |
| 22:06.47 | jelly-home | ,versions samba |
| 22:06.48 | judd | samba -- etch: 3.0.24-6etch10; etch-security: 3.0.24-6etch10; etch-backports: 2:3.2.5-4~bpo41+1; lenny: 2:3.2.5-4lenny8; lenny-security: 2:3.2.5-4lenny9; lenny-backports: 2:3.4.8~dfsg-1~bpo50+1; sid: 2:3.4.8~dfsg-1; squeeze: 2:3.4.8~dfsg-1; experimental: 2:3.5.3~dfsg-1 |
| 22:07.19 | \amethyst | r0nin: do you happen to know the user's password? you said "don't really use it anyway" implying it's your user |
| 22:07.28 | r0nin | yes I do |
| 22:07.28 | \amethyst | s/your user/your account/ |
| 22:07.34 | \amethyst | r0nin: is the password simple? |
| 22:07.43 | r0nin | yes |
| 22:07.48 | \amethyst | r0nin: there you go |
| 22:07.57 | \amethyst | r0nin: and samba is exposed to the world? |
| 22:08.03 | r0nin | no |
| 22:08.16 | jelly-home | but ssh was, I bet |
| 22:08.20 | \amethyst | then you likely have another compromised machine on your network |
| 22:08.28 | \amethyst | oh, you said they had sftp access too |
| 22:08.34 | \amethyst | that could be it |
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| 22:08.43 | r0nin | yes we have clients that use sftp to access the server |
| 22:08.58 | jelly-home | interesting choice of writable directories tho |
| 22:09.18 | \amethyst | this user's password got guessed, probably through an ssh bruteforce attack |
| 22:09.23 | \amethyst | you might check the logs to verify |
| 22:09.34 | jelly-home | r0nin: was the user's HOME under or exactly /var/spool/samba? |
| 22:09.56 | nkuttler | people who know how to ssh should be able to configure keys.. |
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| 22:10.02 | \amethyst | and think about installing something like fail2ban to block bruteforce attempts |
| 22:10.08 | r0nin | rena wasen't able to access its home |
| 22:10.20 | jelly-home | and not use login: blah password: blah1 |
| 22:10.38 | noo | hey Im in the initramfs shell. can anybody tell me how to install a bootloader from there? |
| 22:11.01 | isfranc | hey blah1 is my passwd |
| 22:11.10 | jelly-home | isfranc: not hunter2? |
| 22:11.35 | isfranc | never hunter |
| 22:12.27 | Sweetshark | Hi all, is it possible to install deb packages vs. a local installation, as for example --dbpath with rpm? |
| 22:12.46 | r0nin | what was the obvious pointer to it being comprimised, that crond was accessing the outside? |
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| 22:14.00 | isfranc | r0nin: test pc with chkrootkit and rkhunter |
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| 22:15.25 | r0nin | chkrootkit says all nothing found, not infected, nothing deleted |
| 22:15.27 | inspiron | what's the difference between a Makefile and a Kbuild file |
| 22:15.56 | jelly-home | r0nin: blindly accessing a good number of irc servers (:6667) is an indication |
| 22:16.38 | jelly-home | r0nin: well, you have the contents of /var/spool/samba/.www to inspect |
| 22:16.50 | jelly-home | there may be files otherwhere |
| 22:17.19 | r0nin | rkhunter seems fine to |
| 22:17.36 | jelly-home | r0nin: you might want to find all the files by that user over the filesystem |
| 22:18.52 | r0nin | k |
| 22:19.48 | r0nin | http://pastebin.org/323625 looks concerning |
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| 22:20.06 | jelly-home | also, lastcomm (if logging has been enabled) might show start time of that crond(500) process |
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| 22:21.09 | jelly-home | concerning? now you can have a nice look at script kiddie tools |
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| 22:21.39 | r0nin | lol not finding much, but somekind of irc server/client |
| 22:21.40 | jelly-home | eg. /var/spool/samba/.www/LinkEvents is log file of that ircd scanner |
| 22:21.55 | jelly-home | just don't run them |
| 22:22.07 | r0nin | I added rena for a printer to be able to access the server, didn't even think about it being used to login remotely at the time... |
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| 22:22.47 | r0nin | was a quick fix for something at the time... shame on me |
| 22:22.49 | jelly-home | r0nin: if the user had a valid login shell, there was nothing to _stop_ it from being used to login remotely |
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| 22:23.46 | jelly-home | if you must create users, at least give them good passwords |
| 22:23.51 | inspiron | what's the difference in using m-a package.deb and supplying a package which has a script inside which builds it when it's installed? |
| 22:24.07 | noo | hello. I really need my computer working but it dont get any further on my own. I have one partition with all my files an I dont care about the rest. I just want 2 reinstall my netbook. the bootloader isnt working but i can load a kernel and initrd manually with the commands linux and initird and then i get to a initramfs shell and I dont know how to continue. I really need some help cause I need my computer for my work and I cant get it |
| 22:24.08 | noo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:25.03 | jelly-home | noo: are you entering the correct root=/dev/something in the kernel line? |
| 22:25.59 | jelly-home | er, linux line |
| 22:26.49 | noo | jelly-home> what do you mean by that? in the kernel line in the grub console I enter: linux /boot/vmlinux....... and then initrd /boot/initrd..... and then i simply use the command boot. now Im in this initramfs shell and I didnt do anything here cause I dont have a clue what to do |
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| 22:30.16 | jelly-home | noo: after linux /boot/vmlinux-... there needs to be a root=/dev/sda2 parameter for the kernel to know where to continue booting from |
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| 22:30.34 | jelly-home | noo: you will have to figure out the correct device for your root partition |
| 22:30.48 | richard04 | hi, does people of chromium project ask debian some advices? |
| 22:30.48 | jhutchins_lt | noo: You say you are reinstalling? |
| 22:30.58 | jelly-home | doesn't sound like reinstalling |
| 22:31.12 | jelly-home | it sounds more like "borked grub" at this point |
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| 22:31.18 | yaaar | hey guys. somebody asked me to install a couple of pdf-related programs on my lenny server, and i see they can be supplied by either poppler-utils or xpdf-utils ....any opinions on which I should use? |
| 22:31.42 | jelly-home | yaaar: whichever works? |
| 22:31.51 | richard04 | maybe they copy some way of doing things from debian? |
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| 22:32.20 | yaaar | jelly-home: well i sort of assumed they would both "work" ...was more looking for whether one has better/more features or something? |
| 22:32.58 | richard04 | did debian proposed at some time list of compatible hardware? |
| 22:33.09 | jelly-home | richard04: why are you asking? |
| 22:33.55 | richard04 | why am i asking? where could i ask to know answer? |
| 22:34.12 | jelly-home | to which one of these questions? |
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| 22:34.32 | richard04 | i prefer the list of compatible hardware |
| 22:34.34 | noo | wow I got to the gdm of the installed system!!!!! But y doesnt the bootloader do that on his own? |
| 22:34.45 | noo | thank you loads for that!!! |
| 22:34.49 | jhutchins_lt | Actyally, I didn't really see any question besides whether chromium asks advice from debian. |
| 22:34.52 | jelly-home | richard04: what is your native language? |
| 22:35.06 | jhutchins_lt | richard04: If they do, they don't ask here. |
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| 22:35.44 | jelly-home | noo: running "update-grub" (as root) may fix the grub menu |
| 22:36.24 | jelly-home | noo: after you run it, verify that /boot/grub/grub.cfg contains sensible and correct linux / initrd lines |
| 22:37.07 | jhutchins_lt | yaaar: Kinda have to pick for yoursef; xpdf probably has more time on project. |
| 22:37.22 | richard04 | my question is : did debian wrote somewhere something like, if you want that debian runs well, you should buy this hardware ? because chromium went further, they build hardware, but did debian tried something this way in the past? |
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| 22:38.10 | noo | jelly-home> ok thanks, but somehow I cant login myself :( Any idea why?? |
| 22:38.13 | jelly-home | richard04: nope, debian doesn't provide an official hardware compatibility matrix |
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| 22:38.47 | jelly-home | noo: no. Can you log in at the console (Ctrl-Alt-F1)? |
| 22:39.04 | richard04 | someone have a idea of when debian will die? |
| 22:39.17 | gravity | wtf? |
| 22:39.27 | noo | jelly-home no |
| 22:39.36 | jelly-home | richard04: what is your native language. |
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| 22:40.05 | richard04 | jelly, what cant you understand? |
| 22:40.14 | karsten | richard04: Most of what you're saying. |
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| 22:40.27 | richard04 | i try simple question you know |
| 22:40.38 | jelly-home | richard04: you're making almost completely no sense |
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| 22:40.56 | karsten | jelly-home: I'm guessing French based on IP. |
| 22:41.02 | karsten | jelly-home: ... and attiude. |
| 22:41.15 | richard04 | cant understand this statement of yours |
| 22:41.20 | jelly-home | karsten: I hoped you'd abstain from that one ;-) |
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| 22:42.22 | karsten | jelly-home: Well, I don't call them "freedom fries". |
| 22:43.11 | noo | jelly-home> what shall I do now? Why cant I log in and is there a way to fix the problem or to at least make him load bootable usb sticks without being root? |
| 22:43.14 | oOarthurOo | I ahh.... seem to have badly borked something up. initscripts wouldn't install because it couldn't find /etc/init.d/bootlogd, so I touched it and now its saying no lsb header info (obviously). I tried reinstalling initscripts, but that's no joy. What package provides bootlogd, I think if I reinstall that it should put a proper bootlogd file in /etc/init.d |
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| 22:43.33 | richard04 | questions are simple, did debian fight for some hardware, how long debian will survive without big changes, i feel so stupid having lost my time with it |
| 22:43.53 | jelly-home | !fr |
| 22:43.53 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr sur irc.oftc.net. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 22:44.07 | richard04 | but maybe every body feel stupid too, i dont know |
| 22:44.22 | jelly-home | richard04: don't fret, it's just you |
| 22:44.35 | jelly-home | hides |
| 22:44.47 | richard04 | oh, maybe a matter of time |
| 22:44.52 | jelly-home | noo: try logging in as root. |
| 22:45.11 | jelly-home | noo: if that doesn't work, /msg dpkg ifrp |
| 22:45.33 | karsten | richard04: Debian will likely die well after you. |
| 22:45.37 | jelly-home | noo: if that doesn't work, find a nice good linux consultant and PAY them to get your data out |
| 22:46.12 | jelly-home | karsten: dunno, I don't know of any distro older than 16 years! |
| 22:46.32 | karsten | richard04: For hardware compatibility, your best bet is to assess your kit before you purchase it. There are tools to assist you with this. |
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| 22:46.50 | karsten | jelly-home: Yggdrasil! |
| 22:46.50 | jelly-home | !tell richard04 about hcl |
| 22:47.35 | karsten | richard04: If you've got *specific* issues you'd like help with, start asking intelligent, and intelligible, questions. If you just want to vent, join #steam-room |
| 22:48.06 | iceroot | do i have to restart the system after a libc update or only after a kernel-update? |
| 22:48.31 | craigevil | oOarthurOo: try reinstalling sysvinit |
| 22:48.32 | jhutchins_lt | iceroot: kernel |
| 22:49.15 | richard04 | seems i cant find good questions, do you intend to improve the mess of the releases, you know all the stranges names, never understood their meaning |
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| 22:49.20 | karsten | jelly-home: And Unix is a 40-year old version of Linux. |
| 22:49.20 | noo | jelly-home> cant I create a root partition on my usb stick and then pass it as root=/dev/sdb1 or something like this?? |
| 22:49.21 | jhutchins_lt | oOarthurOo: Possibly aptitude -f install |
| 22:49.33 | themill | richard04: we've heard that tune before. Go away and learn a new one. |
| 22:49.51 | oOarthurOo | craigevil: No joy. Can someone on an up-to-date squeeze post the contents of their bootlogd file to pastebin? I think i just need the lsb headers |
| 22:50.05 | jhutchins_lt | richard04: We are just fellow Debian users. |
| 22:50.07 | r0nin | what are the main things to check if I think the systems been comprimised? any remote connections or odd application behavior? like crond was doing |
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| 22:50.22 | oOarthurOo | jhutchins_lt: I don't want to force an initscript install |
| 22:50.34 | karsten | richard04: Release names are from the Toy Story movies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian#Releases |
| 22:50.41 | iceroot | r0nin: syslog, last, ps aux |
| 22:50.44 | r0nin | from the files looks like he was in there sense late last month |
| 22:50.56 | r0nin | but doesn't seem like he did much |
| 22:51.01 | iceroot | r0nin: and then reinstall :) |
| 22:51.04 | karsten | richard04: "do you plan to improve the mess of the releases" isn't a paritularly lucid question, but the answer in gneeral is "yes". |
| 22:51.34 | jelly-home | karsten: I hate illiterate trolls. At least the well spoken ones can be funny. |
| 22:51.38 | karsten | richard04: ... and if you've already had something pointed out to you, no need to ask again. |
| 22:51.41 | iceroot | r0nin: maybe history is also a way to check |
| 22:51.49 | karsten | jelly-home: But the french accent is so charming. |
| 22:52.02 | r0nin | the .bash_history was still there, not much to see tho |
| 22:52.05 | jelly-home | au contraire, Watson |
| 22:52.33 | jhutchins_lt | r0nin: RPM has the ability to checksum the installed files and tell you if they match it's checksum record. That redcord is subject to tampering though, so you need to have made an off-line copy to be sure. |
| 22:52.39 | jelly-home | is it _le_ troll in .fr? |
| 22:52.43 | jhutchins_lt | r0nin: I don't think .deb has a similar function. |
| 22:52.53 | prince_jammys | trolle |
| 22:53.23 | jhutchins_lt | r0nin: Unless you've made some provision, like a program that checksums /bin and /etc periodically, there's really no way to be sure that something isn't lurking. |
| 22:53.27 | jelly-home | riding trollebuses |
| 22:53.37 | mick_laptop | damned, not one person knows re: the rsync thing :( |
| 22:53.37 | r0nin | :/ |
| 22:53.45 | jhutchins_lt | r0nin: chkrootkit and rkhunter offer some assurance, assuming the intruder wasn't too clever at covering his tracks. |
| 22:54.02 | jhutchins_lt | mick_laptop: rsync list used to be pretty good. |
| 22:54.10 | jhutchins_lt | been a while. |
| 22:54.10 | craigevil | jhutchins_lt: tiger, samhain, debsums |
| 22:54.16 | r0nin | well thats what it looks like, wasen't to clever, but I'll probably reinstall anyway |
| 22:54.22 | mick_laptop | jhutchins_lt: that has *done* the sumcheck in the past |
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| 22:54.35 | mick_laptop | this goes back to my point about an IDS |
| 22:54.35 | jhutchins_lt | craigevil: Can't think of the name, there's one that does a nightly check and notifies you of changes. |
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| 22:54.51 | mick_laptop | ossec is really my fav |
| 22:55.11 | mick_laptop | it isn't nightly, it does it in minutes |
| 22:55.18 | jhutchins_lt | r0nin: If it's just your home PC and the rk stuff checks out, keep running it and watch for unknown network connections. |
| 22:55.23 | mick_laptop | and it detects brute force attacks |
| 22:55.28 | mick_laptop | and is easy to write rules for |
| 22:55.45 | jhutchins_lt | r0nin: If it's anything commercial, official, or important format the disk, reinstall, and restore _data_only_ from backup. |
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| 22:56.08 | mick_laptop | it is proactive and drops the ip and it detects rootkits etc |
| 22:56.10 | jhutchins_lt | Of course, with PHP CMS, the data can conceal a trojan. |
| 22:56.22 | mick_laptop | jhutchins_lt: what does that mean? |
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| 22:56.44 | mick_laptop | i know what the acronymns mean, but the sentence makes no sense |
| 22:56.59 | jhutchins_lt | mick_laptop: For the PHP Content Management Systems it's possible to have SQL injection attacks concealed in user contributed content. |
| 22:57.09 | jhutchins_lt | mick_laptop: Things like that. |
| 22:57.17 | mick_laptop | you have mod_security and green sql for that |
| 22:59.09 | jhutchins_lt | Depends on what your paranoia level is I guess. |
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| 22:59.21 | mick_laptop | i guess mine is up there |
| 22:59.22 | r0nin | thanks for the help guys, later |
| 22:59.30 | worldi | is there a way to tell dpkg to ignore all previous errors and just install the given package? |
| 22:59.37 | mick_laptop | -f |
| 22:59.42 | themill | !wayttd worldi |
| 22:59.42 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, worldi? |
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| 23:01.07 | karsten | worldi: Not globally. If dpkg isn't happy, it's generally trying to save you worse pain. |
| 23:01.22 | worldi | themill: I'm trying to figure out how to remove that fscking backdoored sshd ;) |
| 23:01.24 | karsten | worldi: You can work around some problems, but you're better off fixing what's wrong. |
| 23:01.38 | mick_laptop | worldi: you didn't listen to me |
| 23:01.40 | karsten | worldi: Um. How'd you get a backdoored SSH? |
| 23:01.48 | jhutchins_lt | worldi: That sounds like a great time to do a clean install. |
| 23:01.53 | mick_laptop | so you deserve the world of hurt that you are going through |
| 23:01.56 | worldi | karsten: 1. it is not _my_ backdoored sshd |
| 23:02.04 | themill | worldi: there's nothing on that box that you can trust. /msg dpkg reinstall |
| 23:02.09 | jhutchins_lt | Somebody running anonymous ftp? |
| 23:02.25 | mick_laptop | karsten: his box has been owned but he doesn't want to do a clean install |
| 23:02.42 | karsten | worldi: check attributes on the binary (lsattr), it may be immutable. |
| 23:02.44 | mick_laptop | he is in for a world of hurt |
| 23:02.57 | worldi | themill: I know... but this isn't my box and as far as I can tell the responsible person (a friend of mine) won't reinstall it anyway... |
| 23:02.59 | themill | karsten: it's not even worth looking surely.... |
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| 23:03.03 | karsten | mick_laptop: clean install is Best Practices. Wash your hands and walk away. |
| 23:03.04 | jhutchins_lt | Wow, two rooted systems in a row. |
| 23:03.16 | olorin_ | worldi: |
| 23:03.29 | themill | worldi: the only sane and sensible thing you can do is reinstall. Please, for the sake of the rest of our spam boxes... just do it. |
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| 23:03.40 | olorin_ | worldi: It has been compromised. He need to to understand that. |
| 23:04.11 | rgr | is there a gui way to browse nfs shares that ar epublished on a server for this client? |
| 23:04.15 | worldi | guys, I'm pretty much aware of what "trust" means on a pwned box... stop preaching |
| 23:04.17 | karsten | worldi: Here's the email you write your "friend": 1: you're a fucking idiot. 2: clean reinstall is the only way to be sure (yes, you can archive user data). 3: Not my problem. |
| 23:04.18 | mick_laptop | worldi: again, firewall it off |
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| 23:04.38 | mick_laptop | then migrate to a new box or reinstall over it |
| 23:05.03 | olorin_ | worldi: We only say you have to convince your friend. |
| 23:05.10 | worldi | mick_laptop: the guy who pays for the server doesn't even know what "ls" is... he won't do anything |
| 23:05.20 | mick_laptop | firewall it off |
| 23:05.29 | karsten | worldi: Cut power. |
| 23:05.41 | mick_laptop | that is another way |
| 23:05.42 | themill | worldi: in that case there are only two things you can do.... turn it off or unplug the network cable. |
| 23:05.43 | km | i need libstdc++.so.5, what package do i need to install? |
| 23:05.44 | karsten | worldi: We can't help you, you can't help him. I'm bored. |
| 23:05.51 | karsten | !tell km about search |
| 23:05.52 | rgr | or is there some4ting I can install so that I can use the "network" program to allow me to tonnect my remote nfs? |
| 23:05.59 | mick_laptop | themill: or firewall it off |
| 23:06.25 | km | ah |
| 23:06.28 | karsten | km: libstdc++5 or ia32-libs. |
| 23:06.39 | themill | mick_laptop: I'd prefer something a little more permanent than that... |
| 23:06.41 | km | thanks |
| 23:07.03 | olorin_ | karsten: Cutting network connection, shutting down the box, and analyze the content should be sufficient. |
| 23:07.16 | karsten | olorin_: I'd stop at 2. |
| 23:07.36 | karsten | olorin_: Considering the owner is an idiot. |
| 23:08.13 | craigevil | only sane solution, unplug from internet, reinstall |
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| 23:09.36 | oOarthurOo | Can somone please post the lsb headers from their /etc/init.d/bootlogd file |
| 23:09.56 | olorin_ | karsten: Running an analyze would be helpful to prevent a repeating, but that would indeed be useless when the fault is on the admin side. |
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| 23:10.24 | karsten | oOarthurOo: ?? |
| 23:10.31 | olorin_ | craigevil: Yep, not much else to do I guess. |
| 23:10.55 | karsten | olorin_: Analysis is only useful if the maintainer shows an inclination and aptitute to avoid a re-run. |
| 23:11.41 | olorin_ | karsten: Yes, I tried to state that in the last part above. Sorry if I was a bit vague. |
| 23:11.47 | oOarthurOo | karsten I'm having some dpkg configuration problems, I touched /etc/init.d/bootlogd and now initscripts won't update, it complains of missing lsb headers and the package is currently broken. I'm afraid if the power goes out I'll be left with an unbootable system |
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| 23:12.28 | karsten | oOarthurOo: Um. I see no lsb headers. pastebin commands and errors you're getting. |
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| 23:13.04 | craigevil | oOarthurOo: no lsb headers or lsb in bootlogd, http://paste.debian.net/76943/ |
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| 23:13.29 | themill | umm.... lines 2-12 are the lsb headers |
| 23:14.39 | oOarthurOo | http://pastebin.com/qi3Csyfu |
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| 23:15.17 | XThief | im trying to compile a program and i get this error: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lgmp" i searched for the error in google and i got a solution for it, installing libgmp3-dev but when i try to install it with apt-get but it gives me this error: "The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 23:15.18 | XThief | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:15.18 | XThief | E: Broken packages" |
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| 23:15.47 | \amethyst | XThief: is this a mix of lenny and squeeze? |
| 23:15.48 | noo | jelly-home> I tried around a little bit and couldnt solve this problem. Dont you have a single idea left what I could try to fix it?? It cant afford to pay some guy to do that cause Im a poor student and I would reallz be happy if you could give me at least a direction where to look for a solution |
| 23:15.48 | themill | XThief: don't mix lenny and sid, at a guess... |
| 23:15.52 | oOarthurOo | thx craigevil that has what I was looking for. |
| 23:16.30 | \amethyst | oOarthurOo: you have a different error related to a missing /etc/init.d/bootlogs (note the s, not the d) |
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| 23:17.14 | noo | jelly-home> I saw something strange. I tried to install squeeze before and then I tried to install lenny and thats when the problem with grub appeared, BUT when I get to the login. He says it the login of the squeeze version |
| 23:17.16 | \amethyst | XThief: either downgrade libgmp3c2 to the version in lenny, or install the version of libgmp3-dev from squeeze |
| 23:17.19 | XThief | \amethyst: i was trying to install some packages, but i didnt find them, so i had to add a line in the source.list |
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| 23:17.42 | \amethyst | XThief: and now your system has a mix of lenny and squeeze packages, which means problems like this will be frequent |
| 23:17.51 | \amethyst | XThief: you might want to go ahead and upgrade to squeeze |
| 23:18.03 | \amethyst | XThief: or, alternatively, reinstall lenny |
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| 23:18.11 | oOarthurOo | \amethyst: didn't note that. Thx |
| 23:18.23 | tuvwx | how do i monitor the progress of raid rebuilding? |
| 23:18.31 | XThief | \amethyst: but the packeges i need i guess lenny doesnt have them |
| 23:18.44 | XThief | \amethyst: so i guess its better to upgrade to squeeze, right? |
| 23:18.55 | jelly-home | noo: you may have booted from the wrong partition (used wrong root=... boot parameter), if you have both squeeze and lenny installed on separate partitions |
| 23:19.07 | \amethyst | XThief: I wouldn't say "better", but if you need packages that are only in squeeze that may be your only choice |
| 23:19.11 | \amethyst | XThief: what packages, btw? |
| 23:19.39 | XThief | \amethyst libboost-dev libboost-date-time-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-regex-dev libboost-system-dev libboost-thread-dev build-essential m4 zlib1g-dev libbz2-dev libmysql++-dev libgmp3-dev |
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| 23:20.25 | XThief | \amethyst: im doing it on a virtual machine before doing it in the server, so i can reinstall if its the best thing to do |
| 23:20.48 | \amethyst | XThief: and which of those aren't in lenny? |
| 23:21.30 | \amethyst | XThief: ah, libboost-system-dev |
| 23:21.35 | themill | all of the boost packaging has changed |
| 23:21.47 | XThief | \amethyst: yeah, maybe that one |
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| 23:22.18 | XThief | \amethyst: yes, that one |
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| 23:22.39 | oOarthurOo | holy crap is this annoying. Why can't you install yourself initscripts just because bootlogd is missing? Now that it is there, but the defaults don't match insserv, why do you fail? |
| 23:23.09 | oOarthurOo | Maybe I'm coming at this the wrong way... can I tell aptitidue to overwrite existing files? |
| 23:23.14 | noo | jelly-home> No they have 2 be on the same cause I used the same partition for installing / I looked on the other partitions already and they dont have the linux images. can I somehow load the usb stick in the grub console? or can I do something good in the initramfs what could help me somehow? |
| 23:23.20 | sepult | how comes installing widows from bochs takes more time with the cd than from virtualbox ? |
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| 23:23.36 | Mikae | Hello all. |
| 23:23.40 | \amethyst | !confmiss |
| 23:23.40 | dpkg | The reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files (<conffiles>) are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall <packagename>; |
| 23:23.49 | \amethyst | oOarthurOo: do that, and also --force-confnew |
| 23:23.54 | sepult | every now and then the cd pauses and resumes with bochs, what could be causing that ? |
| 23:24.01 | jelly-home | noo: use a livecd / liveusb, get your data out and reinstall |
| 23:24.07 | sepult | it's seems to bot be fatal though |
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| 23:24.31 | Mikae | I have strange problem: I recompiled glibc with -gstabs option to get binary with debug information. |
| 23:24.36 | steampunkey | hey. calling from a fresh lenny. few minutes ago i've installed an i686 system on this very amd64 i'm using now. i tried to upgread from lenny to sid then (and accordingly replaced these words in sources.list), but dpkg returned some udev-related error. |
| 23:24.38 | XThief | \amethyst: you think upgrade is the only choice for me? |
| 23:24.46 | \amethyst | XThief: at this point probably the simplest |
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| 23:24.53 | Mikae | No when I try to call dlerror I get SIGSEGV. |
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| 23:25.18 | steampunkey | this one is amd64 debian but i'm afraid to updgrade to sid, should i upgrade to testing first? |
| 23:25.25 | \amethyst | XThief: your other choice would be to reinstall and then to install the 1.40 boost packages from lenny-backports |
| 23:25.30 | Mikae | Also I have a question about gdb: first of all it doesn't show values of variables. |
| 23:25.41 | tuvwx | is there something better than 'watch cat /proc/mdstat' ? |
| 23:25.54 | XThief | \amethyst: how can i install them from lenny-backports? |
| 23:25.55 | steampunkey | (also, the last time i tried, x refused to start afterwards) |
| 23:26.00 | noo | jelly-home> YES THATS WHAT I WANT!!!! but I cant start the boot usb disk cause I always get to the grub shell! Thats my "whole" problem. Can you tell me how to boot the usb disk???? |
| 23:26.08 | Mikae | When I do 'p argv[0]' it says that memory at this location is unavalaible. |
| 23:26.14 | \amethyst | !backports |
| 23:26.14 | dpkg | backport is, like, a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.org/ . Ask me about <backports.org> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 23:26.21 | \amethyst | !backports.org |
| 23:26.22 | dpkg | backports.org is a semi-official repository of <backports> for the current stable distribution, prepared by Debian developers. Read http://deb.li/bpoi . A sample line for your sources.list is: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free. Once added: "aptitude update && aptitude install debian-backports-keyring && aptitude update". <bpo mirrors> <bpo contents> <bpo list> <backports-users> |
| 23:26.39 | \amethyst | XThief: like that... the packages are, for example, libbost-system1.40-dev |
| 23:26.40 | jelly-home | noo: that's a BIOS issue |
| 23:26.43 | \amethyst | XThief: err, boost |
| 23:26.57 | XThief | \amethyst: ok amethyst thank you a lot for all the help |
| 23:27.13 | \amethyst | Mikae: why stabs format? |
| 23:27.14 | XThief | \amethyst: i will restart, as i want to test it right before installing in the server |
| 23:27.14 | sepult | noo: upgrade your bios to support usb, or if it does already support usb, configure it to boot from usb |
| 23:27.27 | XThief | \amethyst: *reinstall |
| 23:27.33 | Mikae | \amethyst: That's a good question. |
| 23:27.33 | steampunkey | so stable->sid, or stable->testing->sid ? |
| 23:27.45 | steampunkey | *sid = unstable |
| 23:27.50 | sepult | noo: and make your usb bootable first ! |
| 23:27.56 | noo | well I did this very often already and it worked very gd always but now it doesnt. not i always get into this grub shell |
| 23:27.59 | Mikae | I started to use it and everything was good. |
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| 23:28.07 | \amethyst | Mikae: you realize Debian already provides a package with debugging symbols for glibc, right? |
| 23:28.13 | noo | I know how to make them bootable and how to install from them but it doesnt work anymore |
| 23:28.32 | sepult | oh, ok, then maybe your usb is broke ? |
| 23:28.33 | Mikae | \amethyst: Symbols, but no source code as far as I know. |
| 23:28.46 | steampunkey | !ping |
| 23:28.46 | dpkg | Yes, steampunkey, you are online. |
| 23:28.57 | sepult | !ping |
| 23:28.57 | dpkg | Yes, sepult, you are online. |
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| 23:29.09 | abrotman | leave the bot alone |
| 23:29.22 | steampunkey | abrotman: giveth me the answerz |
| 23:29.32 | sepult | !abrotti |
| 23:29.35 | abrotman | leave the bot alone |
| 23:29.38 | \amethyst | Mikae: you can get the source with apt-get source glibc (lenny) or eglibc (sid and squeeze) |
| 23:29.39 | sepult | mah, nope |
| 23:29.41 | sepult | lol |
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| 23:29.57 | steampunkey | sepult: you can do it in private, i was testing for voice. |
| 23:30.07 | Mikae | \amethyst: And I want to debug some glibc functions looking in source in gdbtui/ddd. |
| 23:30.16 | sepult | i never saw ping |
| 23:30.23 | oOarthurOo | \amethyst: Here's what i tried aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall initscripts and it complains "Setting up initscripts (2.88dsf-7) ... update-rc.d: error: unable to read /etc/init.d/bootlogd so I gather I must reinstall the package that provides bootlogd? |
| 23:31.08 | steampunkey | so, abrotman stable->unstable or testing in between? |
| 23:31.19 | abrotman | !tell steampunkey about releases |
| 23:31.22 | abrotman | !tell steampunkey about reference |
| 23:31.30 | XThief | \amethyst: sorry, one more thing, how can i know the respective packages for the ones i give you that i have to install from lenny-backports? |
| 23:31.39 | \amethyst | oOarthurOo: the bootlogd init script is also in package 'initscripts' |
| 23:31.52 | \amethyst | XThief: the ones that aren't in lenny |
| 23:31.57 | Mikae | \amethyst: As far as I understand symbols only give me information in .symtab of ELF file, not the source while debugging. |
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| 23:32.13 | \amethyst | Mikae: yes, which is why you get the source code... apt-get source glibc |
| 23:32.34 | \amethyst | Mikae: (or eglibc in sid/squeeze) |
| 23:32.36 | oOarthurOo | grrrrr |
| 23:32.42 | Mikae | \amethyst: But how to connect then symbols with source code? |
| 23:32.49 | Mikae | In debugger I mean. |
| 23:33.39 | craigevil | oOarthurOo: check the permissions on the file , might even try moving it out of the way or renaming it |
| 23:33.57 | \amethyst | Mikae: help directory |
| 23:34.05 | Mikae | In gdb? |
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| 23:34.09 | \amethyst | Mikae: yes |
| 23:34.14 | Mikae | Ok, let me try. |
| 23:34.34 | Mikae | But anyway I have the problem with gdb. |
| 23:34.59 | Mikae | Also I've found that the problem exists also in Ubuntu 64. |
| 23:35.38 | Mikae | It looks like it precedes all 64bit platforms (my Debian is 64bit). |
| 23:35.53 | oOarthurOo | craigevil: The file didn't exist. I created it when initscripts asked to be updated and first complained. THen it complained about no lsb info in the empty file... so I punched in your info. Then it complained that the defaults don't match what it thinks it ought to be. |
| 23:36.13 | oOarthurOo | I just tried removing it altogether, but aptitude isn't letting me. |
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| 23:36.20 | \amethyst | Mikae: what does p argv say? |
| 23:36.27 | oOarthurOo | initscripts that is. If I could purge it maybe I could reinstll it. |
| 23:37.00 | Mikae | (gdb) p argv[0] |
| 23:37.00 | Mikae | Cannot access memory at address 0x8000ffffc8b8 |
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| 23:37.52 | craigevil | oOarthurOo: try using dpkg to install the package |
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| 23:39.00 | \amethyst | Mikae: that address looks funny |
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| 23:39.12 | Mikae | \amethyst: This is 64bit system. |
| 23:39.17 | \amethyst | Mikae: shouldn't it be in the low moby, 0x7fff something |
| 23:39.18 | isfranc | :p |
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| 23:40.05 | Mikae | Mmm... I don't know. Any way, it gdb returns this error when referencing any variable. |
| 23:40.18 | \amethyst | Mikae: and this program was compiled with -g ? |
| 23:40.18 | dominet | hm |
| 23:40.32 | Mikae | \amethyst: gstabs you mean? |
| 23:40.40 | \amethyst | Mikae: oh |
| 23:40.41 | dominet | is it ok to send few thousands mail (no spam - just passwords) to people in 1 night? sending with 2s pause |
| 23:40.43 | jhutchins_lt | Mikae: Are you running lenny? |
| 23:40.43 | \amethyst | Mikae: that's your problem |
| 23:40.48 | \amethyst | Mikae: use -g not -gstabs |
| 23:40.49 | Mikae | Yes. |
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| 23:41.08 | Mikae | Ok, let me try to recompile. |
| 23:41.22 | \amethyst | this could well be a bug with gdb's, or gcc's or ld's, handling of the stabs format |
| 23:41.30 | jhutchins_lt | dominet: You might get away with it. |
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| 23:41.55 | Mikae | \amethyst: Thanks, it works. |
| 23:42.09 | Mikae | Is -g another format of debugging information? |
| 23:42.09 | pyther | Jordan_U, ping |
| 23:42.23 | Jordan_U | pyther: pong |
| 23:42.34 | dominet | jhutchins: i seriously started to wonder when my script began its job... perhaps my server's ip gets added to some blocklist for sending thousands? |
| 23:42.35 | \amethyst | Mikae: -g uses the best format for the system, plus gcc extensions |
| 23:42.38 | steampunkey | what could "W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/sid/updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 195.20.242.89 80]" be? |
| 23:42.43 | Mikae | Also I've found a bug in rtld. What have I do? |
| 23:42.44 | karsten | dominet: You're better off asking the folks you're sending mail to. |
| 23:42.49 | \amethyst | Mikae: GNU/Linux systems typically use DWARF2 not stabs |
| 23:43.12 | pyther | Jordan_U, I installed the base system and then used aptitude to install gnome-desktop-environment and everything appears to be working so far |
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| 23:43.15 | karsten | dominet: As far as performance is concerned, up to about 10-20k messages/hour is no sweat. Above that you'll want to start tuning parameters. |
| 23:43.15 | Mikae | It's a pity, I recompiled glibc with gstabs :(. |
| 23:43.16 | oOarthurOo | ok.. I'll try this from a different direction. Is this correct? "update-rc.d bootlogd S" The lsb info says "S", but I've only ever done "defaults" |
| 23:43.17 | dominet | karsten: the folks will be happy, i'm sure about it - if that's the only problem - that's fine :) |
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| 23:43.33 | dominet | ...delivering new passwords for broken forum |
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| 23:43.41 | karsten | dominet: sorting in domain order will speed DNS lookups, as will having a local DNS server. |
| 23:43.45 | Jordan_U | pyther: I think you meant to ping jordanm |
| 23:44.02 | karsten | dominet: pre-caching DNS is very helpful. Lookups can take a significant amount of time for large mail dumps. |
| 23:44.05 | dominet | karsten: hm... |
| 23:44.12 | \amethyst | Mikae: perhaps try #glibc |
| 23:44.24 | dominet | karsten: that's something i never thought about... |
| 23:44.25 | pyther | Jordan_U, yes I did, stupid tab |
| 23:44.32 | pyther | jordanm, ^^^ |
| 23:44.35 | Mikae | \amethyst: And what about the bug? |
| 23:44.41 | \amethyst | Mikae: that's what I meant |
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| 23:44.57 | Mikae | Ough, Ok. Thank you for answers. |
| 23:45.43 | jelly-home | karsten: I install local dnscache on every machine in the mail farm as a rule |
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| 23:50.08 | rebyk | alguien habla castellano |
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| 23:50.37 | abrotman | !es |
| 23:50.37 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat |
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| 23:51.58 | oOarthurOo | \amethyst: I've been unable to get the missing confiles trick to work. |
| 23:52.16 | abrotman | oOarthurOo: which package? |
| 23:52.47 | oOarthurOo | I don't really feel like life should be this hard just because I decided to delete bootlogd. Ok, maybe not smart. But still, initscripts shouldn't just die when trying to upgrade because it's missing on little file. |
| 23:52.52 | oOarthurOo | abrotman: initscripts |
| 23:53.03 | abrotman | for which package? |
| 23:53.10 | abrotman | or that is the package? /me is slow :) |
| 23:53.21 | oOarthurOo | hands twenty people twenty of the worlds smallest violins to play for him |
| 23:53.23 | abrotman | oOarthurOo: which files |
| 23:53.38 | oOarthurOo | abrotman: /etc/init.d/bootlogd |
| 23:54.01 | abrotman | oOarthurOo: is the file still there or completely missing ? and which command are you using to reinstlal those files ? |
| 23:54.49 | oOarthurOo | abrotman: craigevil already provided me the file, I recreated it, chmod +x, changed the lsb headers to start 2,3,4,5 stop 0 1 6, update-rc.d bootlogd defaults and then I still got warnings saying that the lsb info doesn't match what it should be |
| 23:55.05 | isfranc | ¿°P apt-file search /etc/init.d/bootlogd |
| 23:55.41 | jelly-home | hm, dmm is back |
| 23:56.10 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:56.18 | oOarthurOo | abrotman: I posted an error log to pastebin if you have scroll up. If not I can repost so you can see more than the cole's notes |
| 23:56.40 | oOarthurOo | isfranc: Not sure what you mean by that... I get file not found. But the file does indeed exist |
| 23:56.48 | abrotman | i think it wsa before i joined |
| 23:57.22 | oOarthurOo | Original error message, when I tried to update initscripts and bootlogd did not exist |
| 23:57.23 | oOarthurOo | http://pastebin.com/qi3Csyfu |
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| 23:58.45 | abrotman | oOarthurOo: lsattr ? |
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| 23:59.07 | initq | allo allo |
| 23:59.17 | jelly-home | zis is nighthawk callink |
| 23:59.57 | oOarthurOo | Here is current error, after recreating file and updating update-rc.d http://paste.debian.net/76945/ |