| 00:00.47 | simonrvn | no, he's just telling you that for the fun of it. |
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| 00:01.10 | simonrvn | of course it is. man aptitude or aptitude --help |
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| 00:05.32 | JasonWoof | what's the prefered way to set a daemon (winbind in this case) to start automatically on system boot? On fedora I was pretty happy with "chkconfig winbind on" |
| 00:06.14 | ssn | hi guys, iptables dont work on my debian lenny server. rules like "-A INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW --dport 722 -j ACCEPT" say "No chain/target/match by that name" |
| 00:06.17 | simonrvn | it should by default. if it isn't, then you did something. |
| 00:06.21 | simonrvn | JasonWoof: ^^^ |
| 00:07.16 | nsadmin | I just found out something interesting... |
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| 00:08.26 | nsadmin | if you install App::Nopaste (a perl module) it gives you also an executable that uses it to do pastebins |
| 00:09.03 | simonrvn | neat |
| 00:09.23 | Angstrom_ | How do I install the entire debian-multimedia package collection? |
| 00:09.29 | Angstrom_ | with a single command I mean |
| 00:09.39 | simonrvn | you don't |
| 00:09.56 | Angstrom_ | so you have to type apt-get install 2mandvd, apt-get install aacgain, etc |
| 00:09.59 | Angstrom_ | manaull |
| 00:10.01 | simonrvn | you couldn't, i don't thik, due to Conflicts: and such |
| 00:10.07 | nsadmin | true, you don't... because you would need to determine all available packages |
| 00:10.10 | JasonWoof | simonrvn: ok, yep, it looks like winbind is in /etc/rc5.d ... but I'd still like to know the/a preferred way to turn on/off autostarting of daemons |
| 00:10.13 | simonrvn | no aptitude install foo bar baz [and more] |
| 00:10.17 | nsadmin | and that would take its own command(s) |
| 00:10.40 | simonrvn | JasonWoof: update-rc.d; sysv-rc-conf; manually |
| 00:10.49 | JasonWoof | simonrvn: thanks |
| 00:11.41 | simonrvn | ssn: check lsmod - are the iptables modules loaded? |
| 00:11.42 | Angstrom_ | Which commands determine all available packages |
| 00:11.49 | Angstrom_ | and how could a person install all available packages? |
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| 00:12.08 | nsadmin | you'd have to determine that |
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| 00:12.37 | simonrvn | JasonWoof: you could also just cp --no-dereference the symlink in rc5.d to rc2.d |
| 00:12.44 | nsadmin | mostly because installing all packages of anything is not recommended, and for that and other reasons I don't want to be bothered with it |
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| 00:13.13 | simonrvn | wonders why someone would want to do that |
| 00:13.14 | Angstrom_ | Are there pre-made installations of debian with selected packages? |
| 00:13.41 | nsadmin | no, but there is that tasksel thing, and there are metapackages |
| 00:13.51 | tote | my /boot partition is full, is it okey just to remove old files there? or is there a prefered way to clean /boot ? |
| 00:14.18 | nsadmin | tote: if you were to examine the contents of /boot, why is it full? |
| 00:14.44 | nsadmin | the answer to your question depends on the answer to mine |
| 00:15.28 | tote | nsadmin: got lots of different versions of files there, 2.6.30-2, 2.6.32-3/5/trunk |
| 00:15.36 | simonrvn | it's like 2.0 + 2.0 = 4.0 |
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| 00:15.50 | tote | nsadmin: basicly i just want the latest, which is currently booted and working |
| 00:15.50 | nsadmin | so you have kernels that you no longer use? |
| 00:15.56 | tote | nsadmin: correct |
| 00:16.02 | nsadmin | that was my guess :) |
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| 00:16.13 | tote | nsadmin: so how do i remove them? just rm? |
| 00:16.14 | nsadmin | so, you use aptitude to remove the ones you don't use |
| 00:16.19 | simonrvn | so remove them? |
| 00:16.23 | tote | nsadmin: which package? |
| 00:16.47 | nsadmin | tote: show me one filename in there representing a kernel you don't use |
| 00:17.09 | tote | initrd.img-2.6.30-2-amd64 |
| 00:17.38 | nsadmin | ok, let's take the initrd.img off, and we're left with 2.6.30-2-amd64 |
| 00:17.53 | nsadmin | which would be a uname -r if you were running that... |
| 00:18.00 | nsadmin | btw, what's your uname -r? |
| 00:18.07 | tote | 2.6.32-trunk-amd64 |
| 00:18.14 | Schuenemann | full-upgrade is running, but most packages are related to openoffice... |
| 00:18.28 | nsadmin | ok, so that kernel can be removed... try: |
| 00:18.49 | nsadmin | aptitude --remove linux-image-2.6.30-2-amd64 |
| 00:19.10 | simonrvn | remove or purge |
| 00:19.14 | simonrvn | no -- |
| 00:19.34 | nsadmin | now if you were paying attention to some things I didn't say, you probably notice you could apply that pattern |
| 00:19.46 | tote | ahh, thanks :) |
| 00:19.50 | nsadmin | you know how to find kernels to remove |
| 00:20.10 | nsadmin | and you know to put linux-image- on them to form a package name |
| 00:20.19 | tote | yep, thanks for the help nsadmin :D |
| 00:20.20 | nsadmin | and I made a mistake |
| 00:20.40 | nsadmin | simonrvn says you dont' put --remove, you put just remove |
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| 00:21.24 | tote | yep, have removed packages before, no kernel packages tho :P |
| 00:21.50 | nsadmin | and you can choose remove or purge (latter removes config files too) |
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| 00:22.32 | Schuenemann | jelly: hey |
| 00:22.41 | Schuenemann | oops wrong person |
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| 00:24.31 | tote | nsadmin: i found out that this one is installed, linux-headers-2.6.26-1-amd64, seems like something old that could be purged/removed? |
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| 00:30.52 | nsadmin | tote: sure, you could remove it (but it's a sidepoint since it doesn't occupy space in /boot) |
| 00:31.16 | nsadmin | interesting thing I found earlier: |
| 00:31.22 | nsadmin | dh-make-perl --install --cpan App::Nopaste |
| 00:31.29 | nsadmin | running the above command... |
| 00:31.36 | nsadmin | and then running this: |
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| 00:32.13 | nsadmin | cat /usr/bin/nopaste | /usr/bin/nopaste |
| 00:32.42 | nsadmin | oh, screwed up, didn't install Moose... one sec |
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| 00:36.57 | Schuenemann | can anyone paste a default sources.list for squeeze? mine only has security repos |
| 00:37.16 | simonrvn | /msg dpkg sources.list # edit for squeeze |
| 00:38.57 | Schuenemann | so http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian squeeze main ? |
| 00:39.45 | nsadmin | argh. it's not working |
| 00:39.56 | nsadmin | oh well... just goes to show |
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| 00:42.33 | tuv | Schuenemann: add 'deb ' in front of 'http://...' |
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| 00:43.44 | Schuenemann | tuv: I did. It's upgrading... I hope it goes well this time |
| 00:44.52 | wpgmb | I'm trying to aptitude update my system (Squeeze 64 bit). I get the usual 'do you want to continue' (Y), then I get some info in the terminal, which I can only end by pressing control C, which brings me back to the terminal that reads 'Reading changelogs... Done'. What am I doing wrong? |
| 00:45.29 | nsadmin | ok, got it working after installing libmoose-perl and libmoosex-getopt-perl... |
| 00:45.37 | nsadmin | so running this: |
| 00:46.22 | nsadmin | cat /usr/bin/nopaste | /usr/bin/nopaste |
| 00:46.29 | nsadmin | produced this: |
| 00:46.31 | tuv | you'll have to be more specific. what info/messages are you getting? |
| 00:46.39 | tuv | wpgmb: ^^^ |
| 00:46.50 | nsadmin | http://pastie.org/1003212 |
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| 00:53.27 | wpgmb | http://pastie.org/1003217 |
| 00:54.22 | craigevil | wpgmb: hit q to get out of the changelog screen |
| 00:55.45 | wpgmb | craigevil: thanks... (slaps forehead) |
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| 01:04.47 | smacnay | Anyone using Nautilus/Gnome in sid finding that the "sendto" does not contain an option for email addresses? |
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| 01:07.25 | HardDisk_WP | hoi |
| 01:07.28 | HardDisk_WP | try to use nfs mount |
| 01:07.31 | HardDisk_WP | but get http://pastebin.com/h89C5Qeb |
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| 01:20.29 | lynx | who are you |
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| 01:21.15 | Angstrom_ | How can you install a package that is listed in two different sources in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:21.26 | Angstrom_ | Can you choose between the sources |
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| 01:27.33 | Angstrom_ | How can you install a package from a specific sources from two different sources in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:27.40 | Angstrom_ | How can you install a package from a specific source from two different sources in /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 01:35.48 | Pnux | hey, this might sound a little odd, but my isp has blocked my outgoing connection to ports 80, so im not able to access the web, but i can still use internet. Do you know if theres anything i can do? Besides paying the bill, thats it. |
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| 01:41.58 | HardDisk_WP | hey |
| 01:42.03 | HardDisk_WP | anyone know http://pastebin.com/NBVn3Nyh ? |
| 01:42.08 | HardDisk_WP | "# |
| 01:42.08 | HardDisk_WP | # |
| 01:42.08 | HardDisk_WP | mount.nfs: portmap query retrying: RPC: Program/version mismatch" |
| 01:42.16 | HardDisk_WP | what is this? both systems are lenny |
| 01:42.30 | \amethyst | Pnux: continuing to access the internet through the ISP could be considered theft of services |
| 01:42.30 | HardDisk_WP | server is nfs-user-server |
| 01:42.52 | HardDisk_WP | Pnux, sure its not a amok running firewall? |
| 01:43.00 | HardDisk_WP | anyway, contact their customer service |
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| 01:44.25 | Pnux | \amethyst: probably, but they are allowing me to use it, i didnt have to do anything special to use internet |
| 01:44.45 | \amethyst | And my neighbors lock their front door while leaving the windows open |
| 01:44.47 | Pnux | HardDisk_WP: whats amok? |
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| 01:46.01 | aguitel | i am in squeeze and need to remove the last kernel ,how i do that |
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| 01:51.12 | krisfremen | hey guys... |
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| 01:51.19 | krisfremen | i have a little question to ask |
| 01:51.27 | krisfremen | maybe it's obvious to some, but not to me |
| 01:52.15 | krisfremen | i have two NICs on one of my computers, and i want to use them seperately, how do i go about making proxy of some sort so that the traffic i want goes through one nic, and other traffic goes through the other nic?? |
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| 02:00.04 | aguitel | i am in squeeze and need to remove the last kernel ,how i do that |
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| 02:04.14 | tbsaunde | aguitel: apt--get / aptitude remove <kernel package> ? |
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| 02:04.46 | aguitel | tbsaunde, thankz |
| 02:05.50 | lmaowaffle | hello, what's the best way to address a WARNING: boot mounted ro problem upon updating the system? in particular, process fails at update-initramfs. I've re-mounted boot as rw, but #update-initramfs -u gives me write errors at /tmp |
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| 02:14.01 | lmaowaffle | http://paste2.org/p/876694 |
| 02:14.09 | lmaowaffle | locale errors. how do i fix these? |
| 02:14.18 | lmaowaffle | following a recent squeeze update+upgrade |
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| 02:15.44 | edju | installed squeeze w/ kde. I get to the kdm login screen and log in and am faced with a white screen w/ nothing on it - I have to ctrl-alt-del out. any advice appreciated. |
| 02:16.11 | edju | oh - twm runs fine. |
| 02:16.39 | \amethyst | !locales |
| 02:16.39 | dpkg | Use `dpkg-reconfigure locales' to get it up and running. This generates locale definitions and also edits /etc/default/locale which sets the $LANG environment variable at login time. Use "LANG=C command" to change the output language for a one off command; ask me about <localised errors>. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale |
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| 02:29.56 | HardDisk_WP | anyone knows what could have gone wrong in this nfs mount: http://pastebin.com/NBVn3Nyh |
| 02:30.07 | HardDisk_WP | both lenny systems, server running nfs-user-server |
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| 03:49.53 | benjamindees | i'm looking for a calendaring app (for a single user) that's simple and very interoperable. ui is fairly optional. |
| 03:50.05 | HardDisk_WP | uhm... sunbird |
| 03:50.10 | HardDisk_WP | part of mozilla stuff |
| 03:50.19 | HardDisk_WP | anyone knows what could have gone wrong in this nfs mount: http://pastebin.com/NBVn3Nyh |
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| 03:50.22 | HardDisk_WP | both lenny systems, server running nfs-user-server |
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| 03:59.40 | tehrabbitt-2 | hey guys, trying to install the latest copy of BlueZ from source, it's saying DBUS isn't installed though, any ideas? |
| 03:59.51 | tehrabbitt-2 | running lenny |
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| 04:01.33 | qq- | !DBUS |
| 04:01.34 | dpkg | D-Bus (Desktop Bus) is an <IPC> system for software to communicate with each other. The dbus-1-doc package contains the API documentation along with the protocol specification. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/DBusAnalogy http://www.freedesktop.org/software/dbus/ #dbus on irc.freenode.net. |
| 04:01.46 | benjamindees | aptitude install libdbus-1-dev |
| 04:01.49 | tehrabbitt-2 | aight |
| 04:02.22 | tehrabbitt-2 | Ah, didn't realize I needed that package... I just saw that all the other "Dbus" lib were installed |
| 04:02.58 | tehrabbitt-2 | how about: configure: error: GLib library version 2.14 or later is required |
| 04:03.25 | tehrabbitt-2 | guessing it's libglibmm-2.4-dev? |
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| 04:04.31 | poecundank | hi |
| 04:04.46 | benjamindees | libglib2.0-dev |
| 04:06.17 | poecundank | where I can download cd burning debian GNU / LINUX ?? |
| 04:07.00 | benjamindees | depends on what you mean by "cd burning" |
| 04:07.01 | tehrabbitt-2 | any ideas guys? ./bluelog: error while loading shared libraries: libbluetooth.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| 04:07.35 | tehrabbitt-2 | it compiled, but it won't run... all dependencies afaik are met.. (latest copy of bluez) |
| 04:08.18 | poecundank | I want to install debian gnu / linux but I do not know where to download |
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| 04:08.43 | benjamindees | http://www.debian.org/CD/ |
| 04:08.50 | tehrabbitt-2 | http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ |
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| 04:09.48 | kronic | anyone installed samba 4 on lenny? |
| 04:10.03 | tehrabbitt-2 | can anyone give me any advice on where I might have missed something? |
| 04:10.07 | benjamindees | tehrabbitt-2, make install? |
| 04:10.37 | tehrabbitt-2 | I ran make install on the BlueZ package |
| 04:10.41 | tehrabbitt-2 | ran with no errors |
| 04:10.57 | tehrabbitt-2 | bluez-4.64 |
| 04:12.12 | benjamindees | http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/libbluetooth3 |
| 04:12.17 | tehrabbitt-2 | make[1]: *** [tools/lexer.c] Error 1 |
| 04:12.17 | tehrabbitt-2 | make: *** [all] Error 2 |
| 04:12.33 | tehrabbitt-2 | when running "make && make install" on bluez after a "make clean" |
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| 04:13.00 | poecundank | whether this is a model of the processor that I use? ---->> [Alpha] [amd64] [arm] [armel] [HPPA] [i386] [ia64] [mips] [mipsel] [PowerPC] [sparc] |
| 04:13.24 | tehrabbitt-2 | poecundank, what processor do you have? |
| 04:14.26 | poecundank | intel |
| 04:14.34 | benjamindees | poecundank, i386 |
| 04:14.42 | poecundank | yes |
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| 04:15.24 | pauladeb | somebody, please help me |
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| 04:15.29 | pauladeb | I have a mistake /etc/x11/xinit/xserverrc: line 3: /usr/bin/X: No existe el fichero o directorio |
| 04:16.09 | benjamindees | aptitude install xserver-xorg |
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| 04:36.09 | benjamindees | iCal seems like a fairly complicated standard for how worthless it is |
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| 04:39.59 | tehrabbitt-2 | anyone here using debian on non x86 or x64 arch? (alpha, sparc, IA64, etc) and willing to try to compile and test something for a friend of mine? |
| 04:40.29 | tehrabbitt-2 | we've tested the software on both x86 and x64 but we don't have access to other platforms... |
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| 04:40.56 | tehrabbitt-2 | it's a bluetooth scanner / logs the MAC addresses of all discoverable BT devices in the area |
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| 04:41.33 | freespace | got a ppc running debian |
| 04:41.43 | freespace | it might even have bluetooth |
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| 05:05.13 | tehrabbitt-2 | hey freespace |
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| 05:06.19 | tehrabbitt-2 | if anyone wants to give that software a try the link is: http://www.digifail.com/software/bluelog.shtml |
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| 05:09.09 | tehrabbitt-2 | So far i've got it working on slackware x86, debian x86 and x64, just gotta test it on other archs |
| 05:09.44 | tehrabbitt-2 | once it's tested i'm going to hopefully make a .deb file for it so my friend can have multiple distro package files ready to go on his site |
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| 05:14.08 | jesselang | Hi. I've got an MSI PR200 notebook running testing. My keyboard and mouse stop working some of the time, and it's getting really annoying. I've looked around forums, and tried some kernel options like i8042.reset, i8042.nomux, but nothing seems to help. Does anyone have any ideas? |
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| 06:34.23 | lindi- | tehrabbitt-2: how not found |
| 06:34.27 | lindi- | tehrabbitt-2: host not found |
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| 06:37.04 | tehrabbitt-2 | lindi, ? |
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| 06:37.09 | tehrabbitt-2 | the website can't be found? |
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| 06:40.29 | tehrabbitt-2 | lindi, this one should work?: http://www.digifail.com/software/bluelog.shtml |
| 06:41.09 | lindi- | tehrabbitt-2: seems to have been a temporary problem ehre |
| 06:41.15 | tehrabbitt-2 | aight |
| 06:41.41 | tehrabbitt-2 | just a heads up, you need to have the BlueZ Libs installed for it to actually scan |
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| 06:43.08 | lindi- | tehrabbitt-2: not allowed to use radio now but i'll read the source |
| 06:43.21 | tehrabbitt-2 | Aight |
| 06:43.26 | lindi- | tehrabbitt-2: makefile is bit x86-only :) |
| 06:43.33 | lindi- | I have two openmokos here with bluetooth |
| 06:44.02 | tehrabbitt-2 | lindi- I know... hence why i'm trying to see if anyone can give a hand with testing of other archs to see if they work... i'm "customizing" the make file for him since he made it x86 only |
| 06:44.16 | tehrabbitt-2 | lindi-, so why aren't you allowed to use radio? lol |
| 06:44.48 | lindi- | tehrabbitt-2: i'd use some existing build system like autotools or cmake |
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| 06:45.51 | lindi- | tehrabbitt-2: 'Based on code released under the GNU FDL by Albert Huang' looks suspicious |
| 06:46.18 | tehrabbitt-2 | howso? |
| 06:47.01 | tehrabbitt-2 | (i'm going to be emailing him in the morning about anything I find tonight about the program etc) |
| 06:47.13 | tehrabbitt-2 | lindi-, how's it suspicious? |
| 06:47.29 | lindi- | tehrabbitt-2: well FDL is not compatible with GPL |
| 06:47.56 | tehrabbitt-2 | hm, aight i'll let him know |
| 06:47.56 | lindi- | but maybe examples in a book are not a problem |
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| 06:48.13 | lindi- | (the source seems to from a book called "an introduction to bluetooth programming") |
| 06:49.43 | tehrabbitt-2 | ah |
| 06:50.12 | lindi- | tehrabbitt-2: probably not an issue but the way it is in the header makes it sound very suspicious :) |
| 06:50.45 | tehrabbitt-2 | gotcha... yea i'll let him know so he can address it |
| 06:50.56 | lindi- | tehrabbitt-2: http://people.csail.mit.edu/albert/bluez-intro/c404.html#simplescan.c looks similar |
| 06:51.27 | lindi- | tehrabbitt-2: best way would probably be to get the author of the book to license the examples under some non-copyleft license |
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| 06:53.47 | tehrabbitt-2 | i'm not familiar with the licensing though i did put it in the email for him to look into it since he's going to be releasing a new version hopefully within the next couple weeks with the ability to create an XML or PHP powered website that users can view the statistics online etc or display them on a projector in front of a room etc |
| 06:54.13 | tehrabbitt-2 | so trying to iron out most of the little issues now i suppose before big changes |
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| 06:55.19 | tehrabbitt-2 | eventually I told him i'm going to make him a .deb file (and possibly .rpm) so he can put those up rather than having to compile |
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| 06:59.47 | tehrabbitt-2 | lindi-, anywho, i'm gonna hit the sack i'm exausted 0_o thanks for the input on the code |
| 07:00.10 | lindi- | tehrabbitt-2: better make a dsc instead |
| 07:00.18 | tehrabbitt-2 | dsc? |
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| 07:01.40 | lindi- | tehrabbitt-2: debian source package |
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| 07:02.13 | lindi- | tehrabbitt-2: the one you get with "apt-get source nano" for example |
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| 07:02.21 | tehrabbitt-2 | hm true |
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| 07:06.10 | ethanol | mornin' people |
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| 07:15.42 | lmaowaffle | hello. i noticed in boot log: Setting preliminary keymap.../bin/setupcon: 414: cannot create /etc/console-setup/cached.kmap.gz: Read-only filesystem |
| 07:15.48 | lmaowaffle | why is this? |
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| 07:18.00 | ootput | lmaowaffle: on lenny? |
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| 07:23.53 | iskywalker | hi |
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| 07:24.32 | iskywalker | I want to fill a pdf formular, which program can do it? evince changes the font size randomly (it seems to me at least) |
| 07:24.33 | Metatron | i am using lenny stable only and can not install build-essentials or g++, i think it is a libc6-dev problem. i dont understand how to get compiling support for stable, what hoops do i need to jump thru, i dont want testing or squeeze |
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| 07:25.26 | lindi- | iskywalker: randomly? |
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| 07:25.52 | lindi- | iskywalker: i'm afraid evince is your best bet in the free software world |
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| 07:26.00 | iskywalker | in each box i have a different font size |
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| 07:26.29 | iskywalker | damn... flpsed could be ok or? gimp is also worth a try? |
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| 07:27.23 | iskywalker | acroread cant do it? |
| 07:27.35 | lindi- | iskywalker: i said free software world :) |
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| 07:29.55 | iskywalker | adobe acorbat reader 9? |
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| 07:30.09 | iskywalker | using only for this purpose? |
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| 07:33.05 | lindi- | iskywalker: i don't recommend non-free software for anything except maybe for writing a replacement |
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| 07:37.18 | darrob | iskywalker: you can also try okular (which i think is better than evince at that) and pdfedit (if nothing else works). |
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| 07:38.59 | cobra-the-joker | Hey guys ... what is the latest version of KDE in stable ? |
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| 07:40.00 | iskywalker | pdfedit is awful... |
| 07:40.01 | mh_ | cobra-the-joker: im sure you can find the answer in http://packages.debian.org, im not running stable so i cannot look it up for you |
| 07:40.10 | iskywalker | okular i dont have installed, and i dont like kde... |
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| 07:41.38 | cobra-the-joker | still 3.5 :( |
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| 07:42.02 | dv- | 3.5 is nicer |
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| 07:42.23 | cobra-the-joker | dv- , i always hear that .... but i find 4.x more functional |
| 07:42.31 | cobra-the-joker | specially < 4.3 |
| 07:42.39 | dv- | 4 looks like some sort of cheap shiny gps nav device |
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| 07:55.17 | simonrvn | kde 4 is like someone dressed in crappy looking sequins and blinky lights, but doesn't actually do anything |
| 07:55.49 | mavhc | so it's windows |
| 07:56.47 | dv- | they even stole the main menu from vista |
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| 08:09.57 | nanomachine | hi flo` |
| 08:10.16 | flo` | which version of aufs does debian lenny use with the linux-image-2.6.26-2-686 package? (and the corresponding aufs package)? |
| 08:10.56 | flo` | i read that aufs1 doesn't, 2 does support changing settings via remount. lenny's aufs supports it. however, i also read that aufs2 does not support kernel 2.6.26 |
| 08:11.02 | flo` | so now i'm confused a bit ;) |
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| 08:15.18 | jamesbrink-work | im trying to send like 1gb to crappy godaddy and it keeps killing my session |
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| 08:16.32 | xok | hello guys.. |
| 08:16.39 | xok | I've faced some strange problem.. |
| 08:16.47 | xok | can't update repository data... |
| 08:16.56 | xok | the errors I've got look like: |
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| 08:17.34 | xok | http://pastebin.com/0uqSakfq |
| 08:17.45 | xok | can anyone help me?.. |
| 08:19.24 | Vroomfondle | xok: you using a proxy server or something? |
| 08:19.36 | xok | no, nothing like that.. |
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| 08:20.16 | Vroomfondle | it's very strange that all those requests are going to the same IP |
| 08:20.26 | Vroomfondle | something wrong with the DNS server? |
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| 08:20.45 | xok | may be.. |
| 08:20.53 | xok | the system has been installed on the VPS.. |
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| 08:21.23 | Vroomfondle | I reckon you need to talk to whoever runs your DNS, first |
| 08:21.26 | Vroomfondle | to rule that out |
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| 08:23.15 | xok | Vroomfondle, what could be the problem?... |
| 08:23.47 | Vroomfondle | xok: well it looks like your DNS server might be returning the same IP address for all of those different hosts |
| 08:23.50 | Vroomfondle | which is strange |
| 08:24.18 | Vroomfondle | trying pinging them each and see if they seem to have the same IP |
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| 08:26.38 | xok | nope, pinging shows different IP address.. |
| 08:26.56 | xok | something wrong with my system... |
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| 08:28.41 | xok | Vroomfondle, anything?... |
| 08:28.51 | Vroomfondle | ok, not DNS then |
| 08:29.13 | xok | Vroomfondle, what else then?.. |
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| 08:29.40 | Vroomfondle | do an "echo $HTTP_PROXY" |
| 08:29.44 | Vroomfondle | just to make sure |
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| 08:30.53 | xok | allauto:~# echo $HTTP_PROXY |
| 08:30.53 | xok | allauto:~# echo $http_proxy |
| 08:30.53 | xok | allauto:~# |
| 08:30.58 | xok | nothing... |
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| 08:32.29 | Vroomfondle | I'm out of ideas, then, sorry. |
| 08:32.40 | Vroomfondle | perhaps someone else here can help |
| 08:33.08 | xok | Vroomfondle, ok, thanks anyway... |
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| 08:36.05 | sussudio | grrrr... |
| 08:36.31 | themill | xok: it would be $http_proxy (not $HTTP_PROXY) that you should check. Also look in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ for a proxy line |
| 08:38.08 | xok | themill, yeah, that's why I showed $http_proxy as well, and nothing related to proxy in the /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ directory... |
| 08:38.36 | sussudio | libssl-dev: Depends: libssl0.9.8 (= 0.9.8g-15+lenny6) but 0.9.8n-1 is to be installed |
| 08:38.42 | sussudio | i don't expect shit like this in stable... |
| 08:39.08 | themill | sussudio: so don't mix lenny and squeeze |
| 08:39.21 | sussudio | themill: i'm not? |
| 08:39.42 | themill | you are? |
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| 08:39.54 | lindi- | sussudio: libssl0.9.8 0.9.8n-1 is from squeeze and you have it installed |
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| 08:40.16 | sussudio | deb ftp://mir1.ovh.net/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free |
| 08:40.17 | sussudio | deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free |
| 08:40.19 | lindi- | sussudio: packages.debian.org to see more clearly |
| 08:40.28 | sussudio | do you see squeeze there? |
| 08:40.30 | themill | !show sources.list sussudio |
| 08:40.30 | dpkg | sussudio: Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: find /etc/apt/ -name '*.list' -printf "\n%p:\n" -exec cat {} \; |
| 08:40.32 | lindi- | sussudio: current sources.list does not matter if you have ever installed it |
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| 08:40.37 | sussudio | this is a fresh install |
| 08:40.43 | themill | apparently not |
| 08:40.46 | sussudio | yes. |
| 08:40.49 | sussudio | installed this morning. |
| 08:40.57 | lindi- | sussudio: mir1.ovh.net looks bit unofficial though |
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| 08:41.07 | sussudio | it's an ovh dedicated server |
| 08:41.15 | themill | dpkg: tell sussudio about bat |
| 08:41.30 | themill | sussudio: stop ranting and pastebin some useful information. You know the drill... |
| 08:41.52 | Arrowmaster | yes and ovh is nothing but pure quality |
| 08:42.09 | sussudio | fucking crap... ovh buggered up the previous ubuntu installation by forcing an update from 8 to 10 and now this shit isn't working. |
| 08:43.03 | Arrowmaster | they can never even properly manage their network, but you expect them to properly maintain a mirror? |
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| 08:43.26 | themill | There's nothing wrong with the Packages file on that mirror. |
| 08:43.44 | sussudio | how would you even bugger up stable... |
| 08:43.54 | themill | by mixing in testing... ffs. |
| 08:44.06 | sussudio | that would make it not stable |
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| 08:44.13 | SNow | hi guys |
| 08:44.15 | SNow | http://p.defau.lt/?QZBDlyFT_BkH7fIEN4njLg |
| 08:44.18 | SNow | I have this problem |
| 08:44.29 | Arrowmaster | sussudio: pastebin output of apt-cache policy libssl0.9.8 |
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| 08:45.14 | themill | sussudio: does "apt-get udpate" return key errors? If not, they haven't "buggered up stable" you just just managed to get squeeze packages installed. |
| 08:45.23 | Arrowmaster | SNow: #ubuntu |
| 08:45.27 | SNow | thx |
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| 08:45.56 | sussudio | http://www.pastebin.org/329742 |
| 08:46.35 | Arrowmaster | now how did you manage to get that installed |
| 08:46.37 | sussudio | themill: no |
| 08:47.01 | Arrowmaster | try forcing it to downgrade |
| 08:47.14 | sussudio | themill: the disk was wiped this morning and debian stable was installed on it... |
| 08:47.19 | SNow | Arrowmaster: for me? |
| 08:47.25 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 08:47.29 | themill | sussudio: so there's no *current* sources.list pointing at that repo, but the package came from somewher |
| 08:47.40 | sussudio | sighs |
| 08:48.21 | lindi- | sussudio: zgrep libssl0.9 /var/log/dpkg.log*? |
| 08:48.40 | Arrowmaster | sussudio: you used the official installer right? not somebodys 'updated' version or anything? |
| 08:48.41 | themill | sussudio: perhaps part of their install image, since it sounds like you've not done this manually. Talk to them |
| 08:50.02 | Arrowmaster | oh this was probably all just copied over onto the disk by the host without a real installer being run im guessing |
| 08:50.06 | sussudio | themill: they're idiots. they offered 15 days free back instead of looking how they fucked up the ubuntu install... |
| 08:50.14 | themill | sussudio: talk to them... |
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| 08:50.46 | themill | or if you actually want help, send your ranting to /dev/null where there are more people who will appreciate it |
| 08:52.19 | themill | !not available |
| 08:52.19 | dpkg | To get a list of packages that are not available from any repository in your sources.list: aptitude search '?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT))' |
| 08:52.28 | themill | sussudio: ^^ the output of that would be instructive |
| 08:52.45 | lindi- | themill: what a readable command indeed |
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| 08:53.45 | woozamp | hello. i want to upgrade from lenny to squeeze |
| 08:53.57 | woozamp | but when trying to apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 08:54.13 | themill | lindi-: yeah... apt has a status "now" that has to be excluded from the list of packages. See #579603 |
| 08:55.20 | woozamp | it tries to remove gnome gnome-desktop .. and xorg(about 69 packages) |
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| 08:55.44 | Arrowmaster | use aptitude |
| 08:55.48 | themill | woozamp: /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze ; and use aptitude not apt-get as it has a higher probability of succeeding. |
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| 08:56.14 | woozamp | with aptitude i have the same issues... on my laptop i upgraded yesterday i let aptitude uninstall the gnome and i reinstalled it |
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| 08:57.20 | woozamp | but is there any way to avoid that? |
| 08:57.21 | themill | woozamp: at the [Y/n/q/?] prompt, type "+gnome xorg" and then see if the resolver is happier |
| 08:57.41 | woozamp | oO ok themil i will try |
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| 09:10.35 | MrWax | i want to add a user on my debian server, and I ONLY want to give him access that he can setup a socks tunnel with putty, he should NOT be able to do anything else.. any suggestions what I should do? |
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| 09:11.26 | flo` | hi |
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| 09:12.02 | flo` | i am using a self-built kernel (however same version, 2.6.26) and debian lenny. can i simply use the fglrx driver shipped with lenny? |
| 09:12.19 | ronr | hi, my debian kde system has no sound in kde, but speaker-test through alsa has sound, can I switch kde to use alsa somehow? |
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| 09:15.06 | flo` | how can i use the fglrx driver with a self-built 2.6.26 kernel in lenny? |
| 09:15.27 | flo` | i assume i only need to build the module. but how do i do this, and which packages do i need? |
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| 09:15.58 | rozie_ | flo`: m-a a-i fglrx |
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| 09:16.18 | rozie_ | you need module assistant |
| 09:16.19 | flo` | rozie_, does that also install the driver itself? or only compile the module? |
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| 09:16.28 | rozie_ | man m-a ;) |
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| 09:18.06 | sussudio | themill: i just got the .deb from a debian mirror and dpkg -i'ed it. fixed stuff. fuck ovh. with a fork. |
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| 09:19.37 | flo` | when installing the fglrx drivers, does aptitude do anything but install the files then? |
| 09:19.45 | flo` | i.e., does it set up my system for using fglrx? |
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| 09:20.30 | badipod | It should |
| 09:20.49 | flo` | bah. can i switch that off? |
| 09:20.59 | flo` | _I_ want to decide when and if i use it |
| 09:21.21 | badipod | Er. |
| 09:21.22 | dalias | you prolly need a costom xorg.conf then |
| 09:21.28 | badipod | shrugs |
| 09:21.31 | dalias | by default xorg scans and chooses the best driver i think |
| 09:21.40 | badipod | You can unload the module as you please. |
| 09:21.52 | MrWax | Anyone know how I can remove ANY shell for a debian system user? |
| 09:21.57 | badipod | Idk, I used ATI's installer anyway |
| 09:22.08 | flo` | aticonfig modifies my xorg so that fglrx gets loaded |
| 09:22.23 | flo` | and, Xorg has already a custom conf. i want it untouched |
| 09:22.42 | flo` | MrWax, set up /bin/false as shell? |
| 09:23.07 | flo` | *shudder* the first non-free software touches my debian system |
| 09:23.16 | badipod | Lawd. |
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| 09:24.13 | MrWax | flo`: ok, but the user needs to be able to setup a ssh tunnel with putty |
| 09:24.20 | MrWax | flo`: but i dont want him to be able to do ANYTHING else |
| 09:24.42 | dalias | oh... |
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| 09:25.00 | dalias | then you need a shell that just sleeps |
| 09:25.13 | dalias | make a shell script: |
| 09:25.24 | dalias | while : ; do sleep 1000 ; done |
| 09:25.30 | MrWax | ok |
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| 09:25.33 | themill | sussudio: you still might like to check the output of that "not available" factoid to see what other package you have installed that have questionable parentage. |
| 09:25.33 | dalias | and set this as the user's shell :) |
| 09:25.33 | MrWax | where i put this? |
| 09:25.45 | MrWax | dalias: i don't understand, i should create a file like that? |
| 09:25.49 | flo` | in /etc/passwd i think? |
| 09:25.53 | flo` | MrWax, yes. |
| 09:25.55 | dalias | wherever you want. then you need to specify the full path to this script as the user's shell |
| 09:26.00 | MrWax | echo "while : ; do sleep 1000 ; done" >> sleep.sh |
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| 09:26.06 | MrWax | echo "while : ; do sleep 1000 ; done" >> /bin/sleep.sh |
| 09:26.07 | flo` | that new script will be your "shell" |
| 09:26.13 | dalias | and the script needs to have #!/bin/sh on the first line of course, and be +x |
| 09:26.17 | flo` | it will do nothing, but never end |
| 09:26.36 | infinity_ | anyone know how two identical drives could have different CHS information? |
| 09:26.37 | infinity_ | http://pastebin.com/U5XiThS3 |
| 09:26.50 | flo` | WTF |
| 09:26.57 | dalias | if you'd rather kill your bandwidth, you could set the shell to be /bin/yes... ;-) |
| 09:27.04 | flo` | "could not run preferred terminal -- io/error" |
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| 09:27.27 | dalias | infinity_, perhaps different bios settings |
| 09:27.33 | themill | MrWax, dalias: the user can just ^C that to get their prompt back. That's not going to work. |
| 09:27.35 | dalias | CHS crap all comes from the bios |
| 09:27.40 | dalias | themill, nope |
| 09:27.44 | dalias | ^C will log them out |
| 09:27.50 | infinity_ | dalias: its a dell bios. not much to set. i looked and from what i see it looks fine |
| 09:27.51 | dalias | there never was any prompt to begin with |
| 09:27.53 | themill | dalias: umm... no it doesn't. |
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| 09:28.15 | infinity_ | its really weird |
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| 09:28.23 | dalias | themill, if the shell from /etc/passwd is this script 'sleep.sh' then there is no parent shell to process commands |
| 09:28.30 | dalias | when sleep.sh dies, they're logged out |
| 09:28.36 | dalias | go back to unix 101... |
| 09:28.42 | themill | dalias: oh... you want to use that as the shell? eek! |
| 09:28.44 | badipod | Just like if you kill any other shell |
| 09:28.47 | dalias | themill, yes |
| 09:29.01 | flo` | ARGH? |
| 09:29.12 | dalias | it's the best way i know to setup what |
| 09:29.15 | flo` | my system seems to be a bit dead... |
| 09:29.23 | dalias | what mrwax wants |
| 09:29.26 | flo` | i get io errors when wanting to start my console |
| 09:29.31 | badipod | Oh my. |
| 09:29.35 | badipod | :/ |
| 09:29.40 | flo` | before, window management was really slow |
| 09:29.42 | themill | deeply yuck. And if you were just wanting to set up a port forward with ssh, then you'd not run the loop forever |
| 09:29.45 | flo` | what's happening oO? |
| 09:30.02 | flo` | reboot |
| 09:30.08 | dalias | themill, yes. that's why the script is lightweight |
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| 09:30.28 | dalias | themill, if you're really concerned about it, write it in C instead and link to a minimal libc statically :) |
| 09:30.40 | dalias | themill, or write it in asm and do the sleep syscall manually :) |
| 09:31.07 | dalias | and if waking up to sleep again is too much load... |
| 09:31.24 | dalias | then make it select for input available on /dev/null instead :) |
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| 09:56.38 | PointlessNubiles | Hey guys, (this.true? "how" "") can I create a debian installer in an USB stick without sudo/root access? |
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| 09:58.30 | lindi- | PointlessNubiles: from what OS? |
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| 09:59.01 | PointlessNubiles | lindi-: linux |
| 09:59.56 | frostschutz | usually you don't have permission to raw write to usb stick devices so ... no |
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| 10:00.09 | lindi- | PointlessNubiles: you need to be bit more specific, what distro? |
| 10:00.44 | PointlessNubiles | lindi-: an old version of ubuntu (8.04 I guess) |
| 10:00.52 | PointlessNubiles | I can boot to windows, if that is better |
| 10:00.58 | frostschutz | and why would you not have root access on that one |
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| 10:01.53 | PointlessNubiles | frostschutz: my college's machine :( |
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| 10:02.06 | PointlessNubiles | My CD Drive is broken and I have to install linux in my notebook |
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| 10:04.10 | PointlessNubiles | can't I just mount the device and copy/paste the contents of a debian cd to it? |
| 10:04.31 | dalias | no, that will not produce a bootable device |
| 10:04.34 | z0r0 | PointlessNubiles: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ |
| 10:05.38 | PointlessNubiles | z0r0: thanks! |
| 10:05.52 | z0r0 | NP PointlessNubiles |
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| 10:12.28 | z0r0 | what are some 802.11N cards usable in linux? w/o binary blobs? |
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| 10:14.25 | PointlessNubiles | dalias: so I can't create a bootable device without having access to the device node? |
| 10:15.05 | dalias | no |
| 10:15.13 | PointlessNubiles | :( |
| 10:15.19 | dalias | something in the boot record needs to be written to make it bootable afaik |
| 10:16.09 | PointlessNubiles | cybercafes have lousy security settings... I might be able to do that there |
| 10:17.31 | z0r0 | could try a net boot via PXE (requires owning the dhcp server and starting a tftp server) |
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| 10:19.35 | jamesstanley | How do you get rid of the little yellow icon that appears when there are updates in apt? |
| 10:19.48 | jamesstanley | I neither want nor need a graphical update manager but there is no "exit" option in the right click menu |
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| 10:20.17 | jamesstanley | I am running xfce |
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| 10:23.01 | jamesstanley | I took the update-notifier out of xfce autostart but there appears to be no clean way to get rid ofit |
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| 10:36.57 | deuterium | hi all. i've installed mysql-server-5.0 on lenny and set up a root pwd for mysql server. however, when i want to connect to it using "mysql -u root -p" (entering the correct pwd), i get an error: ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES). any idea what's wrong or what i need to do to make it work? |
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| 10:38.17 | simonrvn | try adding -h localhost |
| 10:38.35 | deuterium | btw, i didn't do any additional command-line foo to setup mysql. i just followed the dialog that's also presented when executing "dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0" |
| 10:38.42 | deuterium | simonrvn: ok, mompl |
| 10:39.30 | deuterium | simonrvn: hm, same error |
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| 10:40.57 | deuterium | simonrvn: should i try removing and reinstalling it? i don't have any data on it yet. |
| 10:41.06 | deuterium | simonrvn: or reconfigure it? |
| 10:41.35 | deuterium | or maybe i need to switch on sth manually in the mysql config file(s)? |
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| 10:49.47 | simonrvn | reconf |
| 10:50.51 | themill | !i forgot mysql root password |
| 10:50.51 | dpkg | If you've forgotten the <MySQL> root password, /etc/init.d/mysql stop; mysqld --skip-grant-tables; mysql -u root; use mysql; UPDATE user SET Password=PASSWORD('mynewpassword') WHERE User='root'; FLUSH PRIVILEGES; C-d; stop mysqld; /etc/init.d/mysql start, or http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html, or <mysql initial password> |
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| 10:52.25 | themill | the maintainer scripts do work out of the box, so I'd assume either you fatfingered the password or put some characters in that are not handled properly from one keymap to another or possibly even non-ascii characters that got eaten by mysql (as is its want) |
| 10:52.52 | dalias | lovely broken software that eats non-ascii... |
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| 10:53.49 | themill | dalias: in the case of mysql, s/that.*// from my experience. (but particularly with non-ascii, yes) |
| 10:54.08 | delby | hi there. i am using iceweasel and chrome on lenny. sometimes, for example when i try to use google street view, icewasel just gives me a blank screen and chrome gives me missing plugin message. how do i find out which pluging is missing? |
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| 10:55.08 | amee2k | how can i use rsync to remotely diff two directory trees? |
| 10:55.14 | dalias | how cnfusing it must be for new users.. for example to have a € sign on the kb and not be able to use it anywhere they might use a $ for instance... |
| 10:55.42 | dalias | amee2k, explain what you're trying to accomplish |
| 10:55.55 | deuterium | simonrvn, themill: thx. pwd contains ascii chars only and i just reset it using dpkg-reconfigure (that should be enough.. or do i really need to follow all steps above if there's no error display when i set a new pwd using dpkg-reconfigure?) |
| 10:56.27 | amee2k | i just rsync'd a backup from my fileserver back, but rsync has the habit of increasing the size of the data every time i move the tree around |
| 10:56.39 | amee2k | so when i copied the backup back it didn't fit onto the destination drive anymore |
| 10:56.52 | petemc | that doesnt sound right |
| 10:56.54 | amee2k | and i had to delete some transferred files after rsync has processed them to save space |
| 10:57.06 | dalias | can you just run md5sum on both whole trees and diff that? |
| 10:57.29 | amee2k | now it is complete, but exited with an error that not all files were transfer |
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| 10:57.33 | dalias | amee2k, i'm guessing you originally had hard links that rsync converted into multiple copies of the same file |
| 10:57.37 | themill | deuterium: should be enough |
| 10:57.48 | dalias | or sparse files |
| 10:58.00 | amee2k | i'm wondering if that was just because i deleted the files after they were copied |
| 10:58.08 | amee2k | or some other files were not transferred as well |
| 10:58.17 | amee2k | so i'd like to get a list of missing stuff |
| 10:58.37 | amee2k | dalias: hmmm i'm not aware of any significant use of either |
| 10:59.09 | amee2k | the stuff was 408GB when i backed it up, ~430 on the server, and now just failed to copy back onto a 459GB partition |
| 10:59.09 | dalias | have you looked for hidden (beginning with .) files? |
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| 10:59.19 | dalias | rsync makes temp files with names like that |
| 10:59.23 | amee2k | yeah, they're all there at first glance |
| 10:59.25 | dalias | and soem might have gotten left behind |
| 10:59.36 | amee2k | hmmmm how do i check for that? |
| 10:59.38 | dalias | if rsync was killed unexpectedly or something |
| 10:59.45 | dalias | ls -laR |
| 10:59.53 | amee2k | erm |
| 10:59.56 | amee2k | that doesn't sound right |
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| 11:00.07 | dalias | ? |
| 11:00.16 | amee2k | yeah, that gives me a list of all files |
| 11:00.21 | dalias | right |
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| 11:00.34 | dalias | so you can see if there are any leftover temp files beginning with . |
| 11:00.54 | themill | should at least use "find" so you can see where they are easily. |
| 11:00.55 | amee2k | superficial examination doesn't bring up anything unusual |
| 11:00.59 | woozamp | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:01.09 | amee2k | you don't honestly expect me to check 250k files manually, do you? |
| 11:01.12 | dalias | or find . -name ".[!.]*" |
| 11:01.27 | woozamp | is not working after grub menu and before gdm login page |
| 11:01.45 | woozamp | i cant enter the cryptsetup passphrase |
| 11:02.02 | amee2k | right. that worked better |
| 11:02.14 | amee2k | still searching, but i can't see anything unusual so far |
| 11:02.23 | amee2k | anything specific i can look for? |
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| 11:02.57 | amee2k | woozamp: "usb legacy keyboard" option in your bios setup? |
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| 11:05.57 | amee2k | hmmm can't find anything |
| 11:06.03 | amee2k | looks normal |
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| 11:08.12 | amee2k | just deleted some stuff on the backup and now syncing again |
| 11:08.22 | amee2k | this kinda was what i wanted to avoid tnough |
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| 11:09.13 | woozamp | mm amee2k |
| 11:09.18 | woozamp | it's not that |
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| 11:09.33 | amee2k | no, i mean you should enable that ;) |
| 11:09.43 | woozamp | for some reason cryptsetup can get input from the usb keyboard |
| 11:09.45 | amee2k | it'll make the bios try to fake a PS2 keyboard |
| 11:09.52 | woozamp | it's not |
| 11:09.53 | woozamp | ... |
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| 11:10.03 | os_admin | hello, have u a tutorial how to install subversion server |
| 11:10.11 | SammyTheSnake | I installed a .deb with --force-depends to overcome a broken dependency I knew I didn't care about, but now every time I use aptitude to install packages or whatever, it insists that removing the overridden package is the only solution - is there a way to tell aptitude to keep ignoring that particular dependency? |
| 11:10.15 | amee2k | oh, it does get input? |
| 11:10.22 | amee2k | but it doesn't work? |
| 11:10.24 | woozamp | i can use it at bios and at grub and i can login |
| 11:10.27 | abrotman | SammyTheSnake: fix the dependency |
| 11:10.36 | woozamp | but i cant enter the passphrase |
| 11:10.46 | themill | SammyTheSnake: there's no such thing as an optional Depends. |
| 11:10.56 | SammyTheSnake | abrotman: "nautilus-dropbox: Depends: libnautilus-extension1 (>= 1:2.22.2) but 2.30.1-1 is installed." |
| 11:11.02 | woozamp | of cryptsetup. i can nly with ps2 kb |
| 11:11.02 | amee2k | i think its normal that echoing is disabled during passphrase querrys |
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| 11:11.14 | amee2k | hm... |
| 11:11.15 | SammyTheSnake | abrotman: my reading and aptitude's reading of those version numbers apparently don't agree :-S |
| 11:11.30 | abrotman | SammyTheSnake: paste the full output in a pastebin |
| 11:11.32 | SammyTheSnake | I think 2.30.1-1 is >= 2.22.2... |
| 11:11.42 | themill | SammyTheSnake: 1:2.22.2 is greater than 2.30.1-1. /msg dpkg debian epoch |
| 11:12.02 | SammyTheSnake | themill: "epoch" breaks my app :-/ |
| 11:12.23 | abrotman | SammyTheSnake: but this is Ubuntu ? |
| 11:13.04 | themill | SammyTheSnake: no, mixing different releases or out-of-debian repositories breaks your app. |
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| 11:13.21 | SammyTheSnake | themill: true |
| 11:13.35 | SammyTheSnake | abrotman: no, it's debian, but the .deb I'm trying to "fix" is a third party one |
| 11:13.54 | deuterium | themill: now i've set mysql's pwd to "bla" and i still can't login (same error). do i need to execute "mysql -u root -p" as a special user (e.g. su - mysql or so)? unfortunately, both /var/log/mysql.log and .err are empty. |
| 11:13.55 | abrotman | tell them to fix it |
| 11:14.45 | SammyTheSnake | abrotman: I figured I'd be more likely to be able to fix it myself (with a little help! :-P) |
| 11:15.11 | woozamp | i think that the usb drivers are not loaded when i try to decrypt the root partition.... |
| 11:15.14 | abrotman | SammyTheSnake: unless you're going to unpack it and fix it, not likely |
| 11:15.21 | woozamp | any idea about how to fix that? |
| 11:15.31 | wohnout | hello how can I get rid of this http://paste.pocoo.org/show/225241/ |
| 11:15.34 | themill | SammyTheSnake: it probably needs recompiling in any case |
| 11:15.34 | SammyTheSnake | abrotman: my draft plan is to unpack the .deb, look around for a "dependencies" file, re-pack it, up the version number by 0.0.0.000001 or something, and "upgrade" ... |
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| 11:16.08 | SammyTheSnake | themill: the app apparently *works* fine, so I'm not convinced the dependency version actually does matter... |
| 11:16.10 | os_admin | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:16.23 | abrotman | os_admin: you install svn, and read the docs |
| 11:16.27 | woozamp | http://osdir.com/ml/debian-bugs-dist/2010-01/msg07317.html |
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| 11:23.55 | JyZyXEL | should dm-crypt be on top or below md layer? |
| 11:28.21 | woozamp | no idea about the cryptsetup - usb keyboard issue? i found http://osdir.com/ml/debian-bugs-dist/2010-01/msg07317.html but i have no such file and initramfs.conf has MODULES=most |
| 11:30.36 | JyZyXEL | whats the bug |
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| 11:33.52 | xlotlu | how can i increase the "partition size" of the bootable usb image? |
| 11:35.47 | JyZyXEL | whats a bootable usb image? |
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| 11:37.50 | p0g0 | JyZyXEL: pretty much what it sounds like, usually an ISO that can be dd'd to a USB flash drive, and for BIOS' that support boting from USB, it's a working bootable OS and filesystem. |
| 11:38.00 | p0g0 | *booting |
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| 11:38.50 | JyZyXEL | oh so a disk image |
| 11:40.07 | pingouin_ | any advice for a motherboard for coreI7, supported by a Gnu/Debian lenny right from the installer ? (network/sata...) |
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| 11:41.54 | JyZyXEL | xlotlu: i guess you could set it up as a loop device and then use your favorite partitioning tool on the loop device |
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| 11:43.28 | JyZyXEL | so like: losetup $(losetup -f) image.img |
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| 11:44.18 | SammyTheSnake | feels like a 1337 h4x0r because he re-built the dropbox .deb with "fixed" dependencies. |
| 11:44.34 | dalias | .. |
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| 11:45.14 | SammyTheSnake | abrotman / themill: I think the .deb was aimed at ubuntu, which for reasons that aren't obvious to me uses 1:... for the version of that particular dependency, but appears to be the same actual real-world version as the 0:... version in debian proper... |
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| 11:45.35 | abrotman | SammyTheSnake: nautilus-dropbox isn't even in debian AFAICT |
| 11:45.48 | SammyTheSnake | abrotman: no, which is why I had to fix it! |
| 11:45.55 | abrotman | okay then |
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| 11:46.46 | SammyTheSnake | abrotman: thanks for the help :) |
| 11:47.06 | abrotman | SammyTheSnake: forcing depends is usually the wrong solution |
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| 11:47.53 | woozamp | how can i force initramfs to load usb drives |
| 11:48.02 | woozamp | drivers ^ |
| 11:48.02 | SammyTheSnake | abrotman: I don't know what else I could do, the version of the library on my machine appears to be the right one, but the dependency was asking in ubuntu language, not debian language (to my puny intellect, at least) |
| 11:48.36 | abrotman | SammyTheSnake: yeah, but unfortunately, you have to fix the broken dependency at some point |
| 11:49.13 | SammyTheSnake | abrotman: I think the only time it'll matter is if I want to upgrade to a new version of nautilus-dropbox, when I'll just apply the same fix |
| 11:49.23 | SammyTheSnake | abrotman: unless I'm missing something (not unlikely!) |
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| 11:52.16 | grohne | hi. are there known memory leaking bugs concerning snmpd in lenny (5.4.1~dfsg-12)? in the bts I can only find #252893 which is said to be fixed in 5.3.1-1. |
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| 11:55.11 | grohne | *sigh* it is probably #420876 or #421906 :-( |
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| 12:06.10 | Arafangion | Hey, is there a traditional way to record passwords for given services? |
| 12:06.33 | Arafangion | Eg, I have a password "foo" on ftp server "bar", (ad infinitum for other services) |
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| 12:06.48 | flo`2 | hi |
| 12:06.55 | dalias | traditional? mode 600 text file :) |
| 12:07.00 | flo`2 | i am unable to use the fglrx module shipped with debian lenny |
| 12:07.11 | Arafangion | dalias: It will certainly be mode 600. :) |
| 12:07.19 | flo`2 | i'm using the default kernel (2.6.26-2-686) and the corresponding module |
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| 12:07.25 | flo`2 | however this breaks things: |
| 12:07.26 | dalias | modern? your browser's password manager |
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| 12:07.40 | flo`2 | X won't start any more (not even with radeon driver), unless i manually load the radeon module |
| 12:07.47 | Arafangion | dalias: I don't want my browser's password manager... Frustrating to script, those are. |
| 12:07.50 | flo`2 | if drm and radeon are unloaded, modprobe fglrx fails: |
| 12:07.56 | flo`2 | it "cannot allocate memory" |
| 12:08.07 | dalias | be careful if you're scripting stuff involving passwords |
| 12:08.21 | dalias | command lines are NOT private. they show up in ps |
| 12:08.38 | amee2k | yeah |
| 12:08.40 | Arafangion | dalias: Indeed they are. |
| 12:08.45 | flo`2 | even aticonfig does not work: it tries to create a new config (with --initial), then it segfaults |
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| 12:08.57 | dalias | so you can never use passwords in arguments to external programs, only internal shell functions |
| 12:09.03 | amee2k | people seem to be inventing all kinds of mechanisms to safely get passwords from one process to another |
| 12:09.05 | flo`2 | what am i doing wrong? |
| 12:09.18 | dv- | also, don't put su -c in your aliases :) someone could edit your .bash_aliases and make you do all sorts of nasty stuff |
| 12:09.19 | flo`2 | i'm using lenny and i have a ati radeon mobility m6 ly card |
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| 12:10.01 | dalias | for example you want to do something like wget -I - << EOF |
| 12:10.14 | Arafangion | dalias: Yes, can't even use environment variables if I recall correctly... Best to use files. |
| 12:10.15 | dalias | http://$user:$pass@server |
| 12:10.16 | dalias | EOF |
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| 12:10.47 | Arafangion | dalias: Although, in practice, I'll ultimately end up using a decent scripting language - probably python, which sidesteps a lot of those issues. |
| 12:10.57 | dalias | yeah |
| 12:11.02 | Arafangion | dalias: (Except for the calling helper programs part, which still needs care) |
| 12:11.27 | dalias | generally you want to pass passwords on stdin or in temp files |
| 12:11.34 | Arafangion | Yep.' |
| 12:11.36 | dalias | not on the command line |
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| 12:14.04 | Arafangion | dalias: So... Do you know of an existing sample format to use, or do I have to roll my own? |
| 12:14.24 | woozamp | i fixed the cryptsetup - usb keyboard problem... i appended hid-microsoft at the /etc/initramfs-tools/modules |
| 12:14.26 | themill | of course if you're sending the password over basic-auth to a non-ssl server, you may as well just put the password in ENV or on the command line. |
| 12:15.31 | flo`2 | can please anyone help me with my fglrx problem? |
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| 12:16.34 | Arafangion | themill: There is that. |
| 12:17.00 | Arafangion | themill: But note that I asked a question, and got answers to a whole entirely different question! |
| 12:17.11 | themill | ;) |
| 12:18.09 | themill | ,info pwsafe |
| 12:18.10 | judd | pwsafe (utils, optional): command line encrypted password database manager. Version: 0.2.0-3; Size: 47.6k; Installed: 116k |
| 12:18.31 | Arafangion | themill: What's the point of encryption? |
| 12:18.31 | themill | Arafangion: there are various things like this already in existence if you want. |
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| 12:18.53 | Arafangion | Oh... pwsafe has a screenshot from windows... No wonders. |
| 12:19.10 | themill | heh |
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| 12:19.42 | dalias | lol |
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| 12:19.54 | dalias | different ppl ave different needs |
| 12:20.18 | dalias | for example i'd never want the bother of encrypted passwords on my secure server |
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| 12:20.37 | dalias | but on my laptop that automatically logs in when i turn it on? you bet :) |
| 12:20.44 | Arafangion | themill: However it works, I need to be able to script it because I want to be able to write some helper scripts that let me manage them - hopefuly allow me to trivially change passwords, etc. |
| 12:20.53 | teonanacatl | hi |
| 12:21.19 | themill | Arafangion: well clearly you want XML for that.... |
| 12:21.35 | themill | runs and hides behind abrotman |
| 12:22.16 | teonanacatl | i've got a small problem: when scanning my host from outside, port 8443 seems to be open - a nmap@localhost doesn't show anything, but even lsof -i :8443 doesn't show anything - no i really dont know how it can be that this port is open |
| 12:22.23 | Arafangion | themill: I /hate/ typing XML. :) |
| 12:22.23 | Arafangion | themill: The worst I'll do is use an INI file format. |
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| 12:23.24 | abrotman | why type it!? use some bloated library to generate it for you! |
| 12:24.37 | Arafangion | abrotman: I still have nightmares from doing an XML thing in Java 1.4 without internet access... No Thank You(TM). |
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| 12:25.00 | dalias | :) |
| 12:25.13 | dalias | use json :) |
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| 12:25.25 | dalias | haha |
| 12:25.37 | Arafangion | Really, anything more than INI is overkill, even if INI is a windows thing. |
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| 12:25.59 | themill | makes Arafangion stuff all the passwords into .netrc |
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| 12:26.16 | _L30_ | hi |
| 12:26.24 | _L30_ | i get the following error dpkg warning obsolete option '--print-installation-architecture' |
| 12:26.39 | _L30_ | when i run update-initramfs |
| 12:26.45 | dalias | .ini is actually pretty hideous due to any well-established quoting system |
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| 12:27.03 | abrotman | Arafangion: so call it .conf :) |
| 12:27.07 | Arafangion | themill: I think that was what I was thinking of. :) |
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| 12:27.40 | Arafangion | dalias: The only thing seriously wrong with .ini is the fact that buggy parsers are a "feature". |
| 12:27.52 | Arafangion | Well, that's the worst thing about it, anyway. |
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| 12:27.58 | AlexC_ | Morning |
| 12:28.07 | AlexC_ | how come the grep -P option has been disabled within Debian (Lenny)? |
| 12:28.17 | _L30_ | anyone can help me with it |
| 12:28.33 | Arafangion | AlexC_: You mean: Interpret PATTERN as a Perl regular expression. This is highly experimental and grep -P may warn of unimplemented features. |
| 12:28.53 | tau | hey, i am using devede to record movies but i didn't understand a behavior of it. when i have a file about 600mb and i am going to burn it on a dvd it notices that i will occupy at least 3gb, generally the files that i have used are .avi. the question is: there is a option to readjust the size media so i could join another files to same .iso, but would i loose the quality ? is the quality of a .avi file something predefined and imutable ? |
| 12:29.12 | themill | AlexC_: use pcregrep instead |
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| 12:29.42 | Vroomfondle | tau: it's re-encoding to mpeg2 (DVD format) |
| 12:29.47 | Vroomfondle | which will make the file size much bigger |
| 12:29.52 | AlexC_ | Arafangion: would be nice if the man page explained the reason, but oh well |
| 12:29.55 | AlexC_ | thanks themill I shall try that |
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| 12:30.03 | Acony | I need https in my local apache installation |
| 12:30.08 | Acony | what do I need to install |
| 12:30.10 | Acony | ? |
| 12:30.11 | Arafangion | AlexC_: THe man page isn't the place to justify reasons. |
| 12:30.27 | Vroomfondle | in theory one can make the MPEG2 smaller at the expense of quality, but I'm not sure whether devede can do that (I've not used it) |
| 12:30.30 | themill | AlexC_: note that there is also a bug on bugs.debian.org about this |
| 12:30.44 | themill | (or 5) |
| 12:30.59 | AlexC_ | Arafangion: my point being is that the man page says it exists, yet the option obviously doesn't - hence the confusion really |
| 12:31.30 | Arafangion | AlexC_: Feel free to interpret "Experimental" as "Experimental". |
| 12:31.49 | Arafangion | AlexC_: I'm being a bit facitious, mind you. :) |
| 12:31.56 | tau | Vroomfondle: humm, sure, so, if i readjust the size will i loose quality at all ? but it arrises another doubt, why can I watch .avi files using mplayer without transforming them to mpeg2 ? |
| 12:32.28 | AlexC_ | Arafangion: thanks anyway, pcregrep does the job :) |
| 12:32.29 | Vroomfondle | yes, you will lose quality |
| 12:32.44 | Vroomfondle | tau: because you're watching, not burning to DVD |
| 12:33.24 | themill | Arafangion: it was an accepted bug that the man page shouldn't even mention options that had been deliberately disabled in the debian build. (or if it did mention them, state that they were disabled) |
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| 12:33.49 | dalias | you can use low-bitrate (and even low-res, 352x240/288) mpeg2 on dvd |
| 12:33.54 | dalias | and still be conformant |
| 12:34.00 | _L30_ | i get the following error dpkg warning obsolete option '--print-installation-architecture' |
| 12:34.03 | _L30_ | when i run update-initramfs |
| 12:34.15 | Vroomfondle | tau: what do you want to do with the DVD? Are oyu going to put it in a ahrdware player, or do you just want to save your movie so that you can play it on a computer? |
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| 12:34.37 | Arafangion | themill: That is a valid point. |
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| 12:34.51 | themill | what's more, it's fixed in squeeze. At last. |
| 12:34.54 | tau | Vroomfondle: i want to save it to play at other time on my pc. |
| 12:35.29 | Vroomfondle | tau: then don't use devede to burn the disc. Use some CD recording software, e.g. K3B |
| 12:35.36 | dalias | then don't use this devede thing |
| 12:35.43 | dalias | just burn th e.avi file to a data dvd |
| 12:35.44 | Vroomfondle | that will allow you to just save the AVI to the disc without converting it to MPEG2 |
| 12:36.11 | Vroomfondle | tau: devede is assuming you want to play the video on a hardware DVD player, on your television |
| 12:36.11 | dalias | or even a data cd if its small enoughg |
| 12:36.17 | dalias | btw |
| 12:36.26 | Vroomfondle | so it's converting the file so that a DVD player can play it |
| 12:36.30 | tau | Vroomfondle: yes, i thought to do it but sometimes i like to watch by using the tv. |
| 12:36.31 | dalias | most modern hardware dvd players can play divx-profile avi files anyway |
| 12:36.52 | Vroomfondle | that's true. |
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| 12:37.39 | dalias | converting a movie is a very bad idea unless you really need to |
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| 12:38.03 | dalias | it takes a lot of time,reduces quality, and usually leaves you with something that's more of a pain to use |
| 12:38.05 | tau | Vroomfondle: there is a curious point of creating dvd structures with devede against mandvd, when i used mandvd i had the impression that mandvd doesn't spend so many size like devede. |
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| 12:38.30 | tau | Vroomfondle: but i am not sure, i will test it. |
| 12:38.35 | dalias | mandvd might use lower quality |
| 12:38.43 | dalias | but in any case it will be converting |
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| 12:39.02 | tau | dalias: yes, it can be. |
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| 12:39.36 | dalias | at the very least i would keep archival copies of your movie files in their original format |
| 12:39.51 | tau | i tried to use ffmpeg and mencoder together with dvdauthor i almost got mad. i find i would have to understand a lot of midia to use them. |
| 12:40.00 | dalias | and only burn dvd-video profile dvds when you have a specifgic need for them |
| 12:40.04 | dalias | yes |
| 12:40.20 | dalias | encoding dvd video by hand requires a good bit of knowledge |
| 12:40.31 | tau | yes, it is. |
| 12:40.53 | dalias | but you can get very good results, especially if you break some of the rules that players dont really care about (like using very long gop size) |
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| 12:42.00 | dalias | you can also do tricks like encoding 352x480 instead of 720x480 to save space :) |
| 12:42.10 | tau | dalias: heheh |
| 12:42.26 | tau | dalias: but, does it loose the quality ? |
| 12:42.42 | dalias | to do like chinese pirate dvds with 10 movies crammed onto one single-layer dvd :-p |
| 12:43.11 | dalias | of course |
| 12:43.37 | dalias | anyway just use a standard cd/dvd data burning program |
| 12:44.03 | tau | dalias: i was using a old version for mandvd which doesn't permit to encode the movie using the ac3 audio pattern. so i tried to encode it by using mandvd, it seemed to work at first time, when i burned on dvd, the homer seemed to be melting. |
| 12:44.05 | dalias | if you like commnand line, growisofs is perfect |
| 12:44.28 | tau | ops, by using ffmpeg* |
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| 12:44.43 | dalias | growisofs -Z /dev/cdrom /path/to/files/to/burn |
| 12:45.04 | dalias | for gui use, k3b is popular |
| 12:45.12 | dalias | i dunno what's best |
| 12:45.13 | tau | yeah,i have used k3b. |
| 12:46.20 | tau | dalias: but i am thinking to buy another pc just to do these jobs to burn dvd etc. so i will not get a expensive pc, so i will use just a simple interface and command line. i will use the growisofs. nice idea. |
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| 12:53.52 | djura-san | o/ |
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| 13:20.04 | Skeeter- | I am unable to start x11vnc |
| 13:20.30 | Skeeter- | http://pastebin.org/330325 |
| 13:21.52 | petern_ | in 24 |
| 13:21.54 | petern_ | er |
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| 13:23.13 | amgarching | Hi, how do you overwrite repository to install from for *selected* packages. This is about installing Sun Grid Engine Debian packages on Ubuntu LTS. Ubuntu version is higher and uses incompatible protocoll. I temporarily augmented sources.list and instaled manually requesting specific versions. |
| 13:23.17 | amgarching | ? |
| 13:24.07 | dalias | .... |
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| 13:25.59 | Marsh4ll | on the website there is CD-1 to CD-31 install cds |
| 13:26.00 | elern | hi all |
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| 13:26.13 | Marsh4ll | do i need 31 cds? |
| 13:26.20 | elern | I purchsed a Mackbook and in that i am trying to install debian |
| 13:26.31 | elern | the installation fails saying, No harddisk detected |
| 13:26.50 | elern | forums say that the partition for linux should be created from mac |
| 13:26.53 | elern | is it the case |
| 13:26.56 | elern | need guidance please |
| 13:27.11 | dalias | ... |
| 13:27.31 | amgarching | Marsh4ll: use netinstall, it is faster to download over net than to read from CD. |
| 13:27.33 | themill | takes away dalias's "." key |
| 13:29.04 | dalias | sorry the concept of buying a computer that costs 3x what it's worth just for the 'apple experience', then replacing the os with something else, is just beyond me... |
| 13:29.27 | elern | its actually used for testing variuos OS wih the hardware |
| 13:29.33 | Marsh4ll | the amd64 = processor speed?? |
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| 13:29.45 | bdc1959 | amd opteron 64-bit proc |
| 13:29.47 | AlexC_ | Morning |
| 13:30.12 | AlexC_ | what is the best way to create a .deb file of a few bash scripts I have here? I don't need any make file or anything compiling, just few files moving to locations |
| 13:30.19 | Marsh4ll | whats the difference bdc |
| 13:30.24 | amgarching | Marsh4ll: chose that also for modern Intel processors, if you want 64 bit OS |
| 13:30.48 | themill | Marsh4ll: didn't you have debian installed a few days ago? |
| 13:30.49 | Marsh4ll | that was a livecd mill |
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| 13:32.06 | chlin | Does anyone know what engine is used for the game Dominion3 (on Linux)? |
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| 13:32.43 | Zapelius | my attempt to install Padre (binary, source, CPAN) on OS-X failed miserably. Now I'm trying to get it into Debian Lenny (binary/source package borrowed from ubuntu). |
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| 13:33.32 | Zapelius | what was the command to install build dependencies ? (from within the deb-source directory) |
| 13:33.33 | bdc1959 | elern: using a VM? |
| 13:33.38 | themill | ,versions padre |
| 13:33.39 | judd | padre -- squeeze: 0.61.ds1-1; sid: 0.63.ds1-1 |
| 13:33.44 | Marsh4ll | do the standard install CD come with desktop? |
| 13:33.56 | themill | Zapelius: you'd do better to work with the debian packages and backport them. /msg dpkg ssb |
| 13:35.17 | Zapelius | themill, padre is available in sid, but it depens on perl 5.10.1, I lenny only has 5.10.0, so that's the reason I took it (an older version) from ubuntu |
| 13:35.42 | Zapelius | thought that it would be easier to port |
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| 13:36.32 | Zapelius | and here at work we only have a 2/2mbs internet, so it takes forever to install another VM to run testing/sid in |
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| 13:37.05 | themill | Zapelius: it doesn't build-depend on perl 5.10.1. Although having said that, it's not going to be a "simple" backport, unfortunately. |
| 13:37.27 | shtrb | How can I know that I'm using N wireless mode and not G (ar9170usb module) |
| 13:38.10 | elern | no bdc1959 |
| 13:38.43 | themill | Zapelius: that thing depends on a truckload of packages that are not in lenny. |
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| 13:39.24 | themill | Zapelius: http://paste.debian.net/77360/plain/77360 |
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| 13:40.21 | Zapelius | themill, outch. mm... I think I'm done faster if I wait to get home and install sid from a net-install into another VM and then just "apt-get install padre" |
| 13:40.50 | themill | Zapelius: quite. Or use a chroot rather than a vm if that's easier. (/msg dpkg schroot) |
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| 13:42.56 | Zapelius | themill, awesome, thanks :) |
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| 13:43.50 | themill | Zapelius: no worries. Good luck. |
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| 13:53.20 | kate` | hello. i've never used debian before, and i'm a bit confused; adding a repository to sources.list and re-running apt-get should be all i need to do to have it find a package, right? |
| 13:53.32 | kate` | there's nothing exciting i need to run after editing sources.list, is there? |
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| 13:56.36 | jordanm | kate`: aptitude update |
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| 13:57.06 | slav | !hi |
| 13:57.06 | dpkg | hello, slav |
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| 13:57.28 | kate` | jordanm, why are you suggesting that? |
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| 13:58.42 | shtrb | Does wpa_suppcliant that is currently in the reps have the otus driver ? (http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/otus) I'm having some problems with wpa_suppcliant and wish to be sure I'm using the correct version prior to rebuilding packages .. |
| 13:59.08 | shtrb | Sorry wrong link - http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/otus |
| 13:59.36 | Marsh4ll | do i need to partition before installing or can i do it during installation? |
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| 14:00.20 | kate` | Marsh4ll, the installer provides a partitioning tool, which you can use during installation |
| 14:00.25 | craigevil | shtrb: drivers are a separate issue, wpa_supplicant does not provide the drivers |
| 14:00.33 | JyZyXEL | can ext3 grow if there is available space before the filesystem and not after? |
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| 14:01.20 | shtrb | craigevil, some other package I need to look for ? |
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| 14:02.06 | dalias | i never understood what wpa_supplicant was for. does nm use it as a backend or something? |
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| 14:03.09 | shtrb | dalias, when you need to work with something like wpa,tkip,mixed mode encryption you use this , network-manager for instance do just that (call the wpa_suppcliant |
| 14:03.50 | dalias | ah |
| 14:04.12 | _L30_ | how to compile the kernel versioning? |
| 14:04.15 | dalias | the vast majority of the networks i use are open :) |
| 14:04.54 | _L30_ | i just want to change my kernel from 2.6.32-xxx to 2.6.32-abc |
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| 14:05.01 | _L30_ | how do i do that? |
| 14:08.12 | _L30_ | dalias: any help regarding that pl? |
| 14:08.18 | themill | _L30_: you obviously didn't get the answer you wanted the other day when you asked this, so how about you try asking your question in a different way. Try telling us what you're really trying to do. |
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| 14:09.01 | _L30_ | i have a kernel version 2.6.32-xxx i want it to be compiled to look 2.6.32-yyy |
| 14:09.18 | craigevil | !tell kate` why aptitude |
| 14:09.41 | themill | _L30_: no... that's not what you're trying to do.... what are you really trying to achieve here? Why would you want to change your kernel version in that way? |
| 14:10.21 | kate` | craigevil, i presume there's some bot which is supposed to message me exciting information due to that !tell ? |
| 14:10.24 | _L30_ | themill: thats what im trying to do |
| 14:10.40 | craigevil | !why aptitude |
| 14:10.41 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). |
| 14:10.41 | themill | _L30_: well good luck with that... |
| 14:10.52 | kate` | ah, there it is |
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| 14:11.07 | Malmis | _L30_: make menuconfig, then u can add name or something you want after the version-number |
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| 14:11.21 | kate` | well, that's wonderful - i'll use aptitude. my origional question still applies |
| 14:11.32 | themill | Malmis: he was told that last week but that's that's obviously not the answer he wants. |
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| 14:11.49 | Malmis | maybe he need to look into it :P |
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| 14:12.00 | craigevil | kate`: any time you change sources.list you need to run aptitude update, then you can use aptitude search to find a package |
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| 14:12.25 | kate` | aha, thanks |
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| 14:14.23 | Malmis | _L30_: make menuconfig -> general setup -> () Local version - append to kernel release --- here you hit enter and type what you want to be after kernel version number. |
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| 14:20.39 | runa_ | heyas. I have a problem with openvpn: I used build-key to build a client key but the .crt file is empty. any hints? |
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| 14:22.55 | leejongwook | [Q] Lenny::stable::Grub2::configuration problem::gfxpayload - http://pastebin.com/mRr8KSzk - Thank you :) |
| 14:24.30 | leejongwook | Does anyone know how to use higher screen resolution with grub2 ? |
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| 14:27.57 | abrotman | leejongwook: that seems reasonable .. you might want to ask #grub |
| 14:28.20 | anyoneofus | anyone in here used havp + squid. Can you help me? I have a problem with havp + squid |
| 14:28.21 | leejongwook | abrotman: I see, Thanks :) |
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| 14:30.22 | shtrb | where can I get dpkg source code ? (the bot) |
| 14:31.22 | abrotman | shtrb: he's a blootbot or infobot .. i think it's hosted at sf.net |
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| 14:31.49 | shtrb | abrotman, thanks |
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| 14:35.17 | eshat | Hi all, how do I present a PDF or slides (Created with openoffice presenter or koffice) best ? I want to present on the beamer but have a preview on my noteook, any ideas ? |
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| 14:37.18 | craigevil | leejongwook: http://techpatterns.com/forums/about1517.html&highlight=grub2 |
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| 14:39.21 | leejongwook | craigevil: Thank you :) |
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| 14:49.52 | pressureman | has there been any decision made on whether python 2.6 will be the default version in squeeze? |
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| 14:52.44 | abrotman | pressureman: supposedly it will be .. now they just have to actually do it |
| 14:53.00 | krisfremen | i hate python 2.6 atm |
| 14:53.03 | chrisaw | Hello there, I have a VPS with linode.com and I'm trying to configure (enable) quotas, I have added the ,usrquota,grpquota to / in /etc/fstab and remounted but quotacheck reports that /dev/root cannot be found (which it can't) |
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| 14:53.11 | krisfremen | some things aren't as they are in 2.5 |
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| 14:53.22 | pressureman | ubuntu is talking about moving to 2.7 as default version in 10.10 |
| 14:53.28 | chrisaw | Is there any reason /dev/root would be needed and any reason why it wouldn't be there? |
| 14:53.30 | abrotman | this is #debian ? |
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| 14:53.44 | Pinchiukas | Ok, how do I find out if I have interrupt moderation turned on for my NICs? |
| 14:53.50 | krisfremen | pressureman: who cares about ubuntu??? |
| 14:53.55 | pressureman | i develop mostly on a ubuntu laptop, but deploy the apps on where possible on debian boxes |
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| 14:54.49 | pressureman | there are a few features in python 2.6 that would be nice to use, and it's the first version of python that makes some effort to provide a migration path to 3.x |
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| 14:55.00 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 14:55.06 | lenswipe | anyone in here clued up on samba? |
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| 14:56.21 | pingouin_ | any advice for a motherboard for coreI7, supported by a Gnu/Debian lenny right from the installer ? (network/sata...) |
| 14:56.50 | abrotman | lenswipe: ask your real question |
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| 14:57.21 | lenswipe | im setting up a samba domain and my domain controller is getting the wrong domain from somewhere |
| 14:57.31 | lenswipe | it thinks my domain is called SAMBA rather than HOME |
| 14:57.34 | abrotman | your domain controller? |
| 14:57.36 | lenswipe | anyone have any ideas? |
| 14:57.37 | abrotman | or your domain member? |
| 14:57.38 | lenswipe | abrotman, yes |
| 14:57.41 | lenswipe | domain controller |
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| 14:57.49 | lenswipe | primary domain controller |
| 14:57.55 | lenswipe | root@samba:/etc/smbldap-tools# net getlocalsid |
| 14:57.56 | lenswipe | SID for domain SAMBA is: S-1-5-21-4205394935-3067819993-2766259989 |
| 14:58.07 | lenswipe | but my domain is infact called HOME not SAMBA |
| 14:58.12 | abrotman | lenswipe: dpkg -l samba* && cat /etc/samba/smb.conf .. put that in a pastebin |
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| 14:58.31 | abrotman | well ... dpkg -l "samba*" |
| 14:58.37 | themill | eshat: "apt-cache search pdf present" turns up a few. keyjnote/impressive and pdf-presenter-console are the ones I've heard of |
| 14:58.39 | chrisaw | Is anyone else having a problem with a missing /dev/root device file? |
| 14:59.08 | eshat | themill: thanks, I ll look for one |
| 14:59.22 | ignotus | hi, may I apt-get remove udev on a vps account? |
| 14:59.22 | lenswipe | abrotman, http://pastebin.com/Z7XR5SJK |
| 14:59.34 | abrotman | where's the samba versions ? |
| 14:59.41 | lenswipe | abrotman, ? |
| 14:59.51 | abrotman | lenswipe: dpkg -l "samba*" && cat /etc/samba/smb.conf .. put that in a pastebin |
| 14:59.54 | abrotman | see the first part ? |
| 14:59.57 | Voldenet | ignotus, i would not recommend that |
| 15:00.02 | lenswipe | abrotman, yeah? |
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| 15:00.15 | lenswipe | abrotman, i ran that command and then piped it to a text file |
| 15:00.26 | abrotman | the versions are not in your paste |
| 15:00.51 | lenswipe | abrotman, well what you saw in the paste is what that command gave me, want me to just run the first part on its own? |
| 15:00.52 | ignotus | Voldenet: I thought it is just for plugging in pendrives and such:) |
| 15:00.58 | abrotman | that's fine |
| 15:01.17 | lenswipe | aha |
| 15:01.18 | abrotman | lenswipe: though, i'll say that i know nothing about using samba with ldap .. but the rest looks fine |
| 15:01.18 | lenswipe | http://pastebin.com/QZsmv96A |
| 15:01.24 | Voldenet | ignotus, udev is creating /dev |
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| 15:01.30 | lenswipe | abrotman, ok |
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| 15:01.37 | Voldenet | DO NOT WANT, unless you exactly know what are ya doing. |
| 15:01.40 | Voldenet | ;) |
| 15:01.49 | ignotus | Voldenet: ah, you are right of course, thanks:) |
| 15:01.51 | jordanm | Voldenet: not if /dev is mounted from the host into the container |
| 15:01.52 | abrotman | lenswipe: you did the 'net rpc join' and all that happy stuff ? |
| 15:01.57 | lenswipe | abrotman, no |
| 15:02.02 | lenswipe | abrotman, why would i do that? |
| 15:02.07 | lenswipe | this is a primary domain controller |
| 15:02.10 | Voldenet | Jordanm, do not confuse ordinary people. |
| 15:02.24 | abrotman | lenswipe: oh, sorry, you want it to be the PDC, not a member |
| 15:02.29 | lenswipe | yeah :p haha |
| 15:03.19 | abrotman | have you asked #samba (i know they're slow).. I mostly work with samba as a member and not with ldap |
| 15:03.34 | lenswipe | abrotman, they're not slow |
| 15:03.44 | lenswipe | i would say dead would describe that channel better |
| 15:03.48 | lenswipe | brb |
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| 15:04.49 | abrotman | heh |
| 15:05.13 | abrotman | has always wondered if there is a real #samba somewhere |
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| 15:06.42 | eshat | themill: pdf-presenter-console is just perfect |
| 15:06.45 | lenswipe | back |
| 15:06.49 | yakamo_ | hi im having problems getting my geforce4 440 go to do anything above 800x640 |
| 15:06.52 | lenswipe | abrotman, me too |
| 15:07.00 | lenswipe | abrotman, like a place they go to actually discuss stuff |
| 15:07.05 | Voldenet | yakamo_, xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log |
| 15:07.05 | themill | eshat: excellent. |
| 15:07.07 | Voldenet | or gtfo :) |
| 15:07.22 | yakamo_ | Voldenet: yeah ive tried setting those but nothing |
| 15:07.30 | lenswipe | abrotman, having said that, the lack of such a channel and discussion would explain the speed (or lack thereof) of development on samba4 |
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| 15:07.46 | Voldenet | I mean, what is wrong when you set 1024x768 res? |
| 15:07.48 | abrotman | lenswipe: they may do more discussion on a mailing list .. not sure |
| 15:07.52 | Voldenet | What's log saying? |
| 15:07.54 | jordanm | yakamo_: typically a xorg.conf is needed, but you should pastebin it along with the log as asked |
| 15:07.58 | lenswipe | abrotman, hmmm, shame i cant join it |
| 15:08.01 | Voldenet | Monitor does not support that, card... |
| 15:08.01 | Voldenet | or what |
| 15:08.05 | jordanm | yakamo_: sorry, xorg.conf is not needed |
| 15:08.08 | lenswipe | abrotman, my ISP blocks newsgroups |
| 15:08.16 | abrotman | mailing lists? |
| 15:08.25 | jordanm | shell account? |
| 15:08.27 | abrotman | it blocks groups.google goo ? |
| 15:08.28 | abrotman | too ? |
| 15:08.39 | yakamo_ | ive used xrandr to check what modes i have and even used it to add new modes |
| 15:08.43 | yakamo_ | but they fail |
| 15:08.50 | Voldenet | xrandr fails often. |
| 15:08.55 | yakamo_ | ive noticed |
| 15:09.09 | Voldenet | I tried running few things with xrandr, and got some random errors. |
| 15:09.19 | jordanm | there is typically a reason it is not listed in the first place. in this case, it sounds like you are using vesa drivers |
| 15:09.25 | Voldenet | Setting xorg.conf properly is what you ned. |
| 15:09.27 | yakamo_ | do you know of anything else thats good for detecting modes |
| 15:09.28 | jordanm | we will never know if you don't paste the log... |
| 15:09.39 | Voldenet | yakamo_, just post your xorg.conf somewhere |
| 15:09.47 | yakamo_ | ok give me a moment |
| 15:09.48 | jordanm | Voldenet: unless proprietary drivers are in use, a xorg.conf should not be needed from lenny onward |
| 15:10.17 | Voldenet | jordanm, true, although, setting modes in xorg.conf will force his card to use specified modes |
| 15:10.25 | Voldenet | not random ones |
| 15:10.35 | jordanm | Voldenet: not if its falling back to vesa |
| 15:10.53 | jordanm | then 800x600 is the limitation |
| 15:11.18 | Voldenet | jordanm, then combined xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log |
| 15:11.30 | Voldenet | should show something |
| 15:11.39 | jordanm | Voldenet: yes, which we both initially asked for... |
| 15:11.52 | yakamo_ | anyone recommend a good site to paste to |
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| 15:11.57 | Voldenet | paste.it |
| 15:12.03 | Voldenet | ah |
| 15:12.05 | Voldenet | pastebin |
| 15:12.08 | jordanm | !paste |
| 15:12.08 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ http://pastebin.com/ http://pastebin.ca/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <paste2pastebin.pl>. |
| 15:12.58 | yakamo_ | http://pastie.org/1003927 |
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| 15:14.12 | jordanm | yakamo_: and /var/log/Xorg.0.log ; what version of debian is this? |
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| 15:14.52 | yakamo_ | crunchbang, i installed it to see if it would autodetect anything but no |
| 15:15.11 | jordanm | yakamo_: are you cross-posting? |
| 15:15.34 | yakamo_ | nope |
| 15:15.37 | yakamo_ | just in here |
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| 15:15.45 | Voldenet | btw, yakamo_ |
| 15:15.49 | Voldenet | use apt-get install pastebinit |
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| 15:15.59 | jordanm | yakamo_: there doesn't appear to be a crunchbang user here.. what version of debian? |
| 15:16.04 | Voldenet | then cat <path> | pastebinit |
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| 15:16.11 | jordanm | note that pastebinit in lenny is non-functional with default options |
| 15:16.15 | yakamo_ | http://pastie.org/1003937 |
| 15:16.23 | lenswipe | how do i restart networking on debian? |
| 15:16.27 | jordanm | Voldenet: no need to spawn a subshell. pastebinit <path> |
| 15:16.37 | yakamo_ | i usually use debian lenny with openbox |
| 15:16.40 | jordanm | lenswipe: which version? |
| 15:16.44 | lenswipe | lenny] |
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| 15:16.56 | jordanm | lenswipe: invoke-rc.d networking restart |
| 15:17.00 | lenswipe | ty |
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| 15:17.40 | jordanm | yakamo_: that is not lenny |
| 15:17.45 | Voldenet | yakamo_, try: http://to./4ic9 |
| 15:17.50 | Voldenet | That's the driver for 4MX |
| 15:17.50 | jordanm | !ubuntu |
| 15:17.51 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian, and it is unlikely to live up to Debian's standards (see <Debian policy>). Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu (irc.freenode.net) instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian>. |
| 15:17.58 | jordanm | yakamo_: please go to #ubuntu |
| 15:18.18 | yakamo_ | jordarm: ok kewl |
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| 15:19.46 | jordanm | wonders how ubuntu loads proprietary nvidia without hard-coding it in xorg.conf |
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| 15:20.14 | gravity | It's probably hard-coded in the server |
| 15:20.21 | idimmu | the same way X loads all the other modules it does? |
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| 15:20.28 | lenswipe | baaaaaack! |
| 15:20.29 | lenswipe | :D |
| 15:20.29 | gravity | It's a pretty simple switch statement |
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| 15:22.09 | idimmu | XFree86 has been able to autodetect what driver to use since 2004 |
| 15:22.13 | idimmu | atleast, probably earlier |
| 15:22.19 | idimmu | its not a big magical deal |
| 15:23.00 | petemc | just doesnt work all that well all the time |
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| 15:23.26 | jordanm | autodetection has worked well for a while, but still not the case when it comes to proprietary drivers in debian. I had always figured it was some limitation of HAL, but I can see why debian would not include this since the proprietary drivers are not officialy part of debian |
| 15:25.37 | yakamo_ | im going back to debian lenny dont want to deal with ubuntu junk |
| 15:28.35 | gravity | jordanm: The choice to not load a proprietary driver by default is entirely because no one wants to deal with them upstream or in Debian. It's trivial to do though. A one-line change. |
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| 15:29.36 | jordanm | gravity: thanks of clearing that up |
| 15:29.41 | gravity | sure |
| 15:29.41 | jordanm | s/of/for/ |
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| 15:31.35 | gravity | At least it used to be. I can't find where that code is in the current tree, so someone might have cleaned it up and implemented something better. |
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| 15:37.11 | gravity | Ah, there it is. It just got shuffled to a different file. |
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| 15:46.28 | Pinchiukas | How do I find out if I have interrupt moderation turned on for my NICs? |
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| 15:50.58 | jordanm | Pinchiukas: try modinfo <driver> |
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| 15:56.20 | jelly-home | Pinchiukas: ethtool is probably your friend, but I don't know which tunable corresponds to irq moderation |
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| 16:01.12 | Pinchiukas | jelly-home: seems ethtool doesn't tell me that. :/ |
| 16:02.46 | djura-san | im off. bais people o/ |
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| 16:03.20 | jordanm | jelly-home: in this case, I read the official intel pdf which made the setting changes using insmod |
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| 16:04.54 | yakamo_ | jordanm: hi im back in debian again with the same issues |
| 16:05.05 | yakamo_ | the xorg.conf is the same as before |
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| 16:06.45 | jordanm | yakamo_: pastebin the log |
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| 16:07.41 | Ergo^ | is squeeze in freeze already ? |
| 16:08.21 | jordanm | !wwsr |
| 16:08.22 | dpkg | Squeeze will release <WIR>, <SIYH>. No release schedule is done yet. Ask me about <squeeze bet>. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/05/msg00000.html |
| 16:08.33 | jordanm | Ergo^: no |
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| 16:10.23 | yakamo_ | jordanm: im in the command prompt at the moment and my elinks browser dont like most websites |
| 16:10.31 | jordanm | !pastebinit |
| 16:10.32 | dpkg | i guess pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>; convenient if you don't have a graphical interface. To paste eg. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do eg. "dmesg | pastebinit". In lenny, use "pastebinit -b http://yourpaste.net", because it's broken for most other sites (#572728). |
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| 16:10.37 | yakamo_ | any other suggestions for getting the config to you |
| 16:10.48 | jordanm | yakamo_: yep, factoid above |
| 16:10.54 | yakamo_ | lol yeah |
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| 16:13.25 | yakamo_ | just reading usage of it right now |
| 16:13.36 | dima202 | has anyone updated bind and now webmin no longer detects that it's running? also can't stop bind? |
| 16:13.52 | jordanm | !webmin |
| 16:13.52 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." See http://bugs.debian.org/343897 about the removal from Debian. Don't use their .debs, they are of extremely poor quality. |
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| 16:14.02 | dima202 | Stopping domain name service...: bind9rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused |
| 16:14.47 | ayi_ | Quick question: A dhcp server is on a somewhat unreliable link. Are there any dhcp solutions which hold a copy of the entire server dhcp? |
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| 16:15.14 | dima202 | $status bind9 is running. |
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| 16:16.02 | lontra | hi, i copied about 10 GB of files on to my laptop into /home/lontra from a USB external hard drive and all these files are 'read only'. so i have to manually go in to every file and change from read only to read and write. is there an easier way to do this? |
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| 16:16.41 | jordanm | lontra: chmod -R |
| 16:16.56 | lontra | jordanm: how can i do that on all the files in /home/lontra? |
| 16:17.04 | themill | suspects that it's something very different to that |
| 16:17.33 | jordanm | themill: you don't think that it is file permission? |
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| 16:18.23 | jordanm | lontra: is the ownership of the files correct? |
| 16:18.26 | themill | It'd be quite unlucky for all files to suddenly go a-r when you copied them onto a different disk. My guess is it's a mount option (for vfat?) or a UID mismatch (for ext2/3) |
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| 16:18.53 | nevyn | themill: they're a=r just not a=w |
| 16:18.56 | lontra | yes it shows 'lontra' as the owner ... it's just that all files came in as 'read only' and not 'read & write' |
| 16:19.27 | themill | nevyn: err yeah., a-w was what I meant. |
| 16:19.28 | nevyn | so chmod -R ug+w baseofcopiedfiles should fix it. |
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| 16:20.14 | dima202 | anyone install this update bind9-host Version of 'host' bundled with BIND 9.X New version 9.6.ESV.R1+dfsg-0+lenny1 |
| 16:20.53 | jordanm | dima202: if your issues is with webmin, it is not likely you will find support ehre |
| 16:21.04 | dima202 | im having issued with bind9 |
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| 16:21.17 | jesselang | Hi. I've got an MSI PR200 notebook running testing. My keyboard and mouse stop working some of the time, and it's getting really annoying. I've looked around forums, and tried some kernel options like i8042.reset, i8042.nomux, but nothing seems to help. Does anyone have any ideas? |
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| 16:21.42 | dima202 | webmin has nothing to do with it, it's just a gui |
| 16:22.03 | nevyn | themill: but if they've been copied from fat where they were already -w they'll preserve the -w on the copies under his homedir. |
| 16:22.09 | jordanm | !tell dima202 about ask |
| 16:22.28 | dima202 | i did |
| 16:22.46 | themill | nevyn: ahh... I'm missed the bit where it was copied back off the external drive. Yes, that's likely to be the problem. Horrid. |
| 16:23.02 | themill | is failing at reading today |
| 16:23.14 | jordanm | dima202: I sent that to you for the example format of a question. for example, I saw you posted errors earlier, but from trying to do what? |
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| 16:23.20 | dima202 | I can't stop Bind9 I get Stopping domain name service...: bind9rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused | I already fixed the bin9 config of new location for named.pid |
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| 16:23.52 | jelly-home | dima202: is a bind9 process running at present time? |
| 16:23.56 | dima202 | yes |
| 16:23.56 | jelly-home | er, named |
| 16:23.59 | jordanm | dima202: how are you stopping bind9? |
| 16:24.04 | dima202 | named no |
| 16:24.06 | jhutchins_lt | jesselang: The purpose of the "testing" release is to find problems or bugs in the code. Your test has succeeded. |
| 16:24.16 | dima202 | sudo /etc/init.d/bind9 stop |
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| 16:24.30 | dima202 | I don't see named runing in ps -ef |
| 16:25.00 | jelly-home | dima202: what does ps -fe |grep bind say? |
| 16:25.06 | lontra | nevyn: so chmod -R ug+w /home/lontra/* |
| 16:25.07 | lontra | ? |
| 16:25.15 | nevyn | lontra: that'd be bad |
| 16:25.17 | jordanm | dima202: AFAIK, that is the named bind server, not bind9-host |
| 16:25.24 | lontra | nevyn: ok |
| 16:25.31 | dima202 | nothing at all |
| 16:25.40 | dima202 | dima 32576 28147 0 18:22 pts/5 00:00:00 grep bind |
| 16:25.42 | dima202 | all i see |
| 16:25.43 | nevyn | lontra: in particular that will change the permissions on your . directories including .ssh and break your authorised key file permisssions |
| 16:25.49 | jordanm | dima202: so this is a DNS server and the host security upgrades prevents you from stopping the named server? |
| 16:25.53 | jelly-home | dima202: so assume it's not running, and just start it. |
| 16:26.01 | lontra | nevyn: how about things like chmod -R ug+w /home/lontra/Documents/* |
| 16:26.04 | nevyn | lontra: /home/lontra/copiedstuff |
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| 16:26.08 | nevyn | lontra: much safer. |
| 16:26.13 | jesselang | jhutchins_lt: great. Where do I report the problems I'm having so they can be fixed? bugs.debian.org? |
| 16:26.14 | lontra | nevyn: i.e. all of my subdirectories in /home/lontra |
| 16:26.16 | lontra | nevyn: ok |
| 16:26.23 | lontra | nevyn: as regular user? |
| 16:26.24 | jelly-home | bind9 init scripts have historically been flaky |
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| 16:26.28 | dima202 | Starting domain name service...: bind9. |
| 16:26.30 | nevyn | lontra: yes |
| 16:26.31 | jhambo | Is it possible to get korganizer to show the full event titles in the calendar?? it's not very usefull to look at a calender with lots of entries like "10:55 pm Meet..." and "8:00 am submit..."! |
| 16:26.39 | dima202 | bind9 is running. |
| 16:26.46 | jhutchins_lt | jesselang: I'd say you need to pin down the mechanism of the failure before you can make a good report. |
| 16:26.53 | dima202 | ps -fe gives me nothing for bind |
| 16:26.57 | jelly-home | dima202: is there a process named named running now? |
| 16:26.57 | jhutchins_lt | jesselang: Can you connect to the system with ssh? |
| 16:27.03 | jordanm | dima202: its not called bind, its called "named" |
| 16:27.06 | yakamo_ | jordanm: http://simple.homelinux.com/xorg.conf |
| 16:27.11 | dima202 | no :( |
| 16:27.13 | yakamo_ | just put it on my webserver |
| 16:27.25 | themill | jhambo: if the box is big enough, it does |
| 16:27.30 | jhutchins_lt | jordanm: stuck pid file |
| 16:27.34 | jesselang | jhutchins_lt, yes. |
| 16:27.37 | jelly-home | dima202: inspect /var/log/daemon.log for reasons of it failing |
| 16:27.38 | lontra | nevyn: thanks |
| 16:27.43 | jordanm | yakamo_: the log is what I needed |
| 16:27.52 | jhutchins_lt | jesselang: any clues in the logs? |
| 16:27.59 | jhutchins_lt | jesselang: or top, or ps ax? |
| 16:28.02 | jhambo | themill: but the box never is big enough unless my event/todo title is only like 1 word long. |
| 16:28.05 | yakamo_ | sorry will put that up as well |
| 16:28.14 | jordanm | jhutchins_lt: I was thinking that, but doesn't that usually return a more specific message? |
| 16:28.30 | dima202 | named[31699]: none:0: open: /etc/bind/rndc.key: permission denied and named[31699]: couldn't add command channel 127.0.0.1#953: permission denied |
| 16:28.37 | jhutchins_lt | jordanm: Often it doesn't, just says "still running" or "already running". |
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| 16:28.53 | jordanm | dima202: what are the permissions on that file? |
| 16:28.55 | themill | jhambo: then you need to view the calendar in a bigger window or use the Zoom controls in the View menu to change how much is displayed at once |
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| 16:29.20 | jelly-home | dima202: there you go. make sure that file can be accessed as the user under which bind9 is running |
| 16:29.50 | jhambo | themill: shouldn't it just word wrap the text?? What if I want a rather long description of the event? |
| 16:29.50 | jelly-home | eg. |
| 16:29.52 | jesselang | jhutchins_lt, of course. I get a lot of: |
| 16:29.53 | jelly-home | -rw-r----- 1 bind bind 77 2008-07-27 17:54 /etc/bind/rndc.key |
| 16:29.55 | jesselang | Jun 14 00:16:53 paul kernel: [ 328.636060] psmouse.c: TouchPad at isa0060/serio4/input0 lost sync at byte 1 |
| 16:29.55 | jesselang | Jun 14 00:16:53 paul kernel: [ 328.636064] psmouse.c: issuing reconnect request |
| 16:30.08 | dima202 | 640 |
| 16:30.09 | themill | jhambo: it does word wrap the text... up to the point where it runs out of box. |
| 16:30.19 | yakamo_ | jordanm: http://simple.homelinux.com/Xorg.0.log |
| 16:30.21 | jelly-home | dima202: ownership is the more important bit |
| 16:30.22 | themill | jhambo: is this the daily view or the month view you're talking about? |
| 16:30.26 | jordanm | dima202: does it match jelly-home's example? |
| 16:30.33 | jhambo | themill: month view |
| 16:30.35 | jhutchins_lt | jesselang: Careful with the pastes there... |
| 16:30.38 | dima202 | bind:bind |
| 16:30.45 | jesselang | jhutchins_lt, That's how it starts. It will reconnect for a while, then it gives up. |
| 16:30.48 | jhutchins_lt | jesselang: I'd say it's the psmouse daemon then, you could report the bug against that. |
| 16:31.00 | jelly-home | dima202: and the directory itself? |
| 16:31.01 | jhutchins_lt | Interesting though. |
| 16:31.04 | dima202 | yeah it matches |
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| 16:31.23 | quellhorst | how to i turn on 'debian testing' packages? |
| 16:31.25 | jordanm | yakamo_: that looks good. its still having issues? |
| 16:31.27 | quellhorst | to/do |
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| 16:31.28 | dima202 | bind dir is drwxr-sr-x |
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| 16:31.36 | themill | jhambo: ahh... that would be why then. It doesn't give a spatial view of the appointments, it just lists them per day. The daily/weekly etc views have enough space to do a spatial map |
| 16:31.38 | jelly-home | dima202: group bind? |
| 16:31.45 | dima202 | root:bind |
| 16:31.51 | dima202 | set it to bind:bind |
| 16:31.53 | dima202 | ? |
| 16:31.59 | jhutchins_lt | quellhorst: why? |
| 16:32.00 | jordanm | yakamo_: looks like 1280x800 is now available |
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| 16:32.01 | jelly-home | dima202: no, this is par the course |
| 16:32.20 | jhambo | themill: ahhh it also appears to wrap the text when you print it out. Would be nice if it did the same when viewing on the screen though... |
| 16:32.39 | yakamo_ | jordanm: thats the prob i tryed with xdm but it just gave me garble |
| 16:32.40 | themill | jhambo: not enough pixels on the screen, I think you'll find. |
| 16:32.44 | jesselang | jhutchins_lt, then when the keyboard stops working, I get: Jun 13 23:59:32 paul kernel: [17013.363525] atkbd.c: Spurious NAK on isa0060/serio0. Some program might be trying access hardware directly. |
| 16:32.54 | dima202 | jelly-home: so why am i getting permission denied? |
| 16:33.05 | jordanm | yakamo_: what happens if you "startx"? |
| 16:33.15 | jelly-home | dima202: which user are you running bind service as? |
| 16:33.30 | jhutchins_lt | jesselang: I've seen that somewhere... |
| 16:33.35 | yakamo_ | jordanm: nothing |
| 16:33.45 | jesselang | jhutchins_lt, it seems to happen more often when the notebook gets warmer... usually when the wireless card is on. |
| 16:33.47 | dima202 | i start it as root |
| 16:33.51 | dima202 | and stop as root |
| 16:33.52 | jordanm | yakamo_: surely it does *something* |
| 16:33.53 | jhutchins_lt | quellhorst: What are you trying to do by enabling testing packages? |
| 16:34.03 | dima202 | via sudo |
| 16:34.10 | yakamo_ | jordanm: command not found |
| 16:34.13 | jhutchins_lt | jesselang: Do you have lm_sensors installed? |
| 16:34.29 | jhutchins_lt | jesselang: which kernel are you running? |
| 16:34.30 | jordanm | yakamo_: install xinit |
| 16:34.31 | jelly-home | dima202: yes, but it's typically configured to use some other user after it's started |
| 16:34.35 | jordanm | !tell yakamo_ bout installit |
| 16:34.39 | jordanm | !tell yakamo_ bout apt-file |
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| 16:34.46 | jordanm | !tell yakamo_ about installit |
| 16:34.50 | jordanm | !tell yakamo_ about apt-file |
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| 16:35.28 | jelly-home | dima202: debug the init script, see what it does. Please pastebin the output of eg. sudo sh -x /etc/init.d/bind9 start |
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| 16:35.36 | jesselang | jhutchins_lt, Yes, I have lm_sensors installed. I am running: Linux paul 2.6.32-5-amd64. It happened with Linux paul 2.6.32-3-amd64 as well. |
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| 16:35.56 | jhutchins_lt | ,kernels |
| 16:35.57 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.34-1-686 (2.6.34-1~experimental.2); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-15~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-22lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 16:36.13 | jelly-home | dima202: it usually reads some options for the daemon from /etc/default/bind9 |
| 16:36.17 | dima202 | http://pastebin.org/330738 |
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| 16:36.35 | quellhorst | jhutchins_lt: i need to install a more recent imagemagick |
| 16:36.48 | jhutchins_lt | ,versions imagemagick |
| 16:36.50 | judd | imagemagick -- etch: 7:6.2.4.5.dfsg1-0.15+etch1; etch-security: 7:6.2.4.5.dfsg1-0.15+etch1; etch-backports: 7:6.3.7.9.dfsg1-3~lenny1~bpo40+1; lenny: 7:6.3.7.9.dfsg2-1~lenny3; lenny-security: 7:6.3.7.9.dfsg2-1~lenny3; sid: 7:6.6.0.4-2; squeeze: 7:6.6.0.4-2 |
| 16:37.32 | jhutchins_lt | quellhorst: Installing packages from testing on a stable system pretty much voids the waranty. We will point and laugh if you break your system. |
| 16:37.41 | themill | s/if/when/ |
| 16:37.54 | jelly-home | dima202: you seem to have configured bind to be run in a chroot |
| 16:38.10 | jhutchins_lt | quellhorst: It's better to find a backport, or to do a backport build yourself. |
| 16:38.24 | jhutchins_lt | !tell quellhorst about ssb |
| 16:38.32 | themill | I wouldn't say imagemagick is particularly backportable, however. |
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| 16:39.17 | jhutchins_lt | wonders what about editing images has changed drasticaly in the past two years. |
| 16:39.31 | yakamo | jordanm: ok installed xinit |
| 16:39.36 | yakamo | attempted to startx |
| 16:39.41 | jordanm | yakamo: now startx |
| 16:39.44 | yakamo | but the screen went to garbel |
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| 16:40.29 | jelly-home | dima202: pastebin the output of apt-cache policy libc6 bind9, please |
| 16:40.37 | jordanm | yakamo: pastebin the new log |
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| 16:40.44 | yakamo | ok |
| 16:40.45 | jelly-home | ,versions bind9 |
| 16:40.47 | judd | bind9 -- etch: 1:9.3.4-2etch6; etch-security: 1:9.3.4-2etch6; lenny: 1:9.5.1.dfsg.P3-1+lenny1; lenny-security: 1:9.6.ESV.R1+dfsg-0+lenny1; lenny-backports: 1:9.7.0.dfsg.P1-1~bpo50+1; sid: 1:9.7.0.dfsg.P1-1; squeeze: 1:9.7.0.dfsg.P1-1 |
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| 16:40.49 | themill | jhutchins_lt: there's at least one soname bump that required a lot of package rebuilds and a number of FTBFS -- soname bumps generally mean not backportable. Plus there have been changes to the packaging of imagemagick which aren't that hard to work around, but make it a "non-simple" sid backport |
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| 16:41.16 | jesselang | jhutchins_lt, should I try removing lm_sensors, or reconfiguring it? |
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| 16:41.30 | mederEsite | is there a comprehensive lenny to sid guide |
| 16:41.33 | mederEsite | i want bleeding edge |
| 16:41.37 | jhutchins_lt | jesselang: I was thinking more along the lines of looking at temps when you're having problems. |
| 16:41.41 | themill | dpkg: tell mederEsite about iyhtays |
| 16:41.50 | dima202 | http://pastebin.org/330747 |
| 16:41.51 | mederEsite | themill: huh |
| 16:41.52 | tharkun | themill: ssb factoid is non simple from sid to lenny nowadays, there is a package you need to rebuild first (cant recall which one is it) |
| 16:41.54 | SOUL_OF_R00T | if anyone can help i already has tryed various things but no success http://dpaste.com/207133 |
| 16:42.00 | dima202 | jelly-home: http://pastebin.org/330747 |
| 16:42.00 | jhutchins_lt | mederEsite: sid isn't bleeding edge, sid is testing and development. |
| 16:42.09 | themill | tharkun: eh? wfm on a large number of packages |
| 16:42.28 | quellhorst | jhutchins_lt: how can i search for backports? |
| 16:42.50 | yakamo | http://simple.homelinux.com/Xorg.0.log |
| 16:42.54 | yakamo | ok theres the new log file |
| 16:42.57 | themill | jhutchins_lt: that and imagemagick command-line apps regularly change their command line options in a way that isn't expressed by soname/sover changes so you're not going to get automatically versioned-dependencies on them |
| 16:43.18 | jhutchins_lt | quellhorst: One way is /msg judd versions <package>, which I did above for imagemagick. |
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| 16:44.05 | themill | tharkun: you should, of course, have backports.org in your sources.list prior to starting to build things as many will need a newer version of debhelper, but that's about it for a good portion of backports. |
| 16:44.29 | jhutchins_lt | themill: What I'm wondering is what the functional changes are that would mean someone _needed_ a newer version. |
| 16:44.29 | dima202 | jelly-home: can you please tell me whats going on here? |
| 16:44.31 | jelly-home | dima202: I can't figure out what's going wrong here without a strace; it looks pretty much all right, and I guess it's possible that security update to bind 9.6something may have introduced a regression |
| 16:44.49 | jordanm | yakamo: pastebin lspci -nn line for your video device |
| 16:45.04 | themill | jhutchins_lt: they build in new back-ends fairly regularly; could be as simple as that. |
| 16:45.10 | jhutchins_lt | jesselang: I think you may be at a point where you need to run in a debug environment to nail down the actual problem. |
| 16:45.17 | dima202 | jelly-home: well /etc/init.d/bind had wrong location of named so i fixed that |
| 16:45.24 | jordanm | dima202: are you running selinux or similar? |
| 16:45.34 | jordanm | dima202: wrong location? |
| 16:45.39 | dima202 | jordanm: debian |
| 16:45.39 | jesselang | jhutchins_lt, so what does that entail? |
| 16:45.40 | jelly-home | dima202: wrong location of named.pid |
| 16:45.46 | dima202 | yes |
| 16:45.56 | dima202 | after update i had to fix it |
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| 16:46.04 | themill | jhutchins_lt: that or just version chasing because you can... because some bone-headed php extension says that you need the newer version just for fun |
| 16:46.06 | jelly-home | dima202: can you pastebin your bind configuration files? |
| 16:46.11 | dima202 | ok |
| 16:46.45 | tharkun | themill: ohh, since the factoid does not mention it, i missed it entirely |
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| 16:47.19 | dima202 | jelly-home: http://pastebin.org/330759 |
| 16:47.32 | themill | tharkun: probably not enough room in the factoid to add it... but it probably should go there, yes. |
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| 16:48.22 | jhutchins_lt | jesselang: At this point you're beyond my knowledge. I'm strictly admin and scripting, no coding. |
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| 16:48.36 | jordanm | dima202: I don't think that is what he meant when he said configuration files |
| 16:49.11 | jesselang | jhutchins_lt, I also get a got of these when I press certain function buttons (turning the wireless and bluetooth on in the hardware): Jun 14 11:43:22 paul kernel: [41517.504408] atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xf6 on isa0060/serio0). |
| 16:49.11 | jesselang | Jun 14 11:43:22 paul kernel: [41517.504415] atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e076 <keycode>' to make it known. |
| 16:49.42 | dima202 | jordanm: oh, but that's where i made the change, i assumed.. what config file did you mean jelly-home ? |
| 16:50.09 | jelly-home | dima202: everything in /etc/bind except the zone files |
| 16:50.22 | jelly-home | but don't do that |
| 16:50.34 | jordanm | dima202: typically you would not edit init scripts directly. |
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| 16:52.10 | dima202 | jordanm: am i really the only one having problem with this latest bind9 upadte |
| 16:52.31 | jhutchins_lt | is puzzled, bind worked fine on two servers as installed by apt. |
| 16:52.53 | jhutchins_lt | wonders if it's an rndc issue. |
| 16:52.56 | yakamo | cant get pastebin to do its job |
| 16:53.12 | jelly-home | dima202: you may be the only only crazy enough to have done an upgrade without testing! |
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| 16:53.27 | jelly-home | s/only only/only one/ |
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| 16:53.50 | jelly-home | jhutchins_lt: do you also have 9.6? |
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| 16:54.09 | jordanm | dima202: first I have seen on IRC. haven't seen any report on the mailing list either. |
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| 16:54.39 | jelly-home | I'm half tempted to upgrade a machine to lenny to try and reproduce |
| 16:54.47 | dima202 | yeah but the named.pid location is a known issue |
| 16:55.03 | themill | had no problems with the new lenny packages |
| 16:55.08 | jhutchins_lt | jelly-home: 1:9.6.ESV.R1+dfsg-0+lenn |
| 16:55.41 | jordanm | dima202: known issue? I don't see it on the BTS |
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| 16:56.23 | dima202 | https://www.virtualmin.com/node/14570 |
| 16:56.23 | Sapote | hi people!!! have a problem installing libphp5 in lenny. unmet dependencies |
| 16:56.23 | jhutchins_lt | recalls a troubleshooting flowchart with a loop between "Did you mess with it" and "You poor bastard". |
| 16:56.23 | themill | jordanm: well it's probably a known issue that if you you bugger up the config file then it doesn't work any more |
| 16:56.23 | themill | dpkg: tell Sapote about bat |
| 16:56.56 | jordanm | themill: actually, I did find it. #585004 |
| 16:58.27 | jordanm | ,versions libphp5 |
| 16:58.29 | judd | Sorry, no package named 'libphp5' was found. |
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| 16:58.42 | themill | jordanm: weird... wonder why I've not had any problems with that |
| 16:58.43 | jordanm | Sapote: that could be that it does not exist in debian |
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| 16:59.00 | jordanm | themill: it sounds severe to me |
| 16:59.09 | dima202 | jelly-home: do you still want the configs? |
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| 16:59.48 | jelly-home | dima202: wth, why not |
| 16:59.57 | dima202 | jelly-home: ok thanks, one min |
| 17:00.17 | dima202 | jelly-home: named.conf http://pastebin.org/330781 |
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| 17:00.47 | dima202 | jelly-home: named.conf.local http://pastebin.org/330782 |
| 17:00.56 | themill | (topicdiff: remove dmm down) |
| 17:01.20 | dima202 | jelly-home: named.conf.options http://pastebin.org/330784 |
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| 17:02.00 | chrisaw | Is there a way to "blacklist" a specific package version? quota-4.00~pre-1-3 seems to be broken for me and I need to somehow stop an upgrade installing it |
| 17:02.10 | jelly-home | dima202: also, please do a strace -ff -o /tmp/bind.strace /etc/init.d/bind9 start |
| 17:02.40 | jordanm | ,versions quota |
| 17:02.43 | judd | quota -- etch: 3.14-7; lenny: 3.16-7; sid: 4.00~pre1-3; squeeze: 4.00~pre1-3 |
| 17:02.51 | themill | chrisaw: use aptitude's forbid-version command |
| 17:02.51 | jordanm | !tell chrisaw about hold |
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| 17:03.03 | Sapote | themill, jordanm: yes... libapache-mod-php5 not exist in lenny. libapache2-mod-php5 is replace. Thanks for all |
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| 17:03.12 | jordanm | chrisaw: themill's suggestion is likely better |
| 17:03.31 | themill | Sapote: that's because apache 1.3 doesn't exist in lenny; apache 2.2 is its replacement |
| 17:03.55 | jordanm | Sapote: FWIW that isn't even close to what the package name you gave and said you were having issues with |
| 17:03.58 | dima202 | jelly-home: wow strace made a few logs here |
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| 17:05.02 | themill | Sapote: You'll also notice that "libapache2-mod-php5" doesn't sound much like "libphp5" that you first asked about. That makes it a lot harder for us to help you... |
| 17:05.05 | dima202 | jelly-home: i will compress these and upload in a min |
| 17:05.07 | jelly-home | dima202: yeah, find the one for the actual named process and pastebin that. see if grep -l 'execve.*named' /tmp/bind.strace* shows just one file |
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| 17:05.23 | Sapote | sorry themill, i mistake |
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| 17:05.52 | jelly-home | dima202: most of the files are just the init, shell script, running |
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| 17:06.14 | dima202 | jelly-home: ah ok found it |
| 17:06.41 | _2 | eject /dev/sdb1 |
| 17:06.41 | _2 | Error: mount point /mnt is not below /media/ |
| 17:06.45 | dima202 | jelly-home: http://pastebin.org/330792 |
| 17:06.59 | chrisaw | ,versions quotatool |
| 17:06.59 | judd | quotatool -- etch: 1.4.9-2; lenny: 1.4.10-1; sid: 1.4.11-1; squeeze: 1.4.11-1 |
| 17:07.01 | _2 | is eject no longer a good "umount" command ? |
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| 17:07.43 | jelly-home | dima202: not it. It might be the longest one. |
| 17:09.01 | jelly-home | dima202: one for pid 31699, it seems |
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| 17:09.56 | dima202 | jelly-home: I cant copy the longest one, too many lines |
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| 17:10.04 | jelly-home | !pastebinit |
| 17:10.04 | dpkg | hmm... pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>; convenient if you don't have a graphical interface. To paste eg. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do eg. "dmesg | pastebinit". In lenny, use "pastebinit -b http://yourpaste.net", because it's broken for most other sites (#572728). |
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| 17:13.39 | _2 | ? |
| 17:13.43 | jelly-home | !test |
| 17:13.43 | dpkg | Test failed. |
| 17:14.10 | jelly-home | _2: where is /dev/sdb1 mounted? |
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| 17:15.46 | jelly-home | _2: eject tries to unmount filesystems, stop external devices and or eject trays if applicable, and generally tries to do the right thing, but sometimes it can't figure out the right thing to do or the user doesn't have permissions |
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| 17:16.12 | jelly-home | !qotd0 |
| 17:16.13 | dpkg | <PhatJ> ugh - i picked the wrong week to stop sniffling glue <Supaplex> PhatJ: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_glues just for you :) |
| 17:17.05 | dima202 | jelly-home: i have all the logs here http://mrdreamer.com/file.tar.gz |
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| 17:17.21 | dima202 | jelly-home: sorry it took so long |
| 17:17.30 | jelly-home | np |
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| 17:17.44 | _2 | /mnt |
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| 17:18.43 | _2 | jelly-home /mnt |
| 17:18.55 | jelly-home | _2: it ought to work if you have /mnt in /etc/fstab |
| 17:19.09 | _2 | sorry for the dis/re/connect this wireless network is filtered badly |
| 17:19.29 | jelly-home | (and the fstab entry matches the device mounted there, and there's "user" in options) |
| 17:20.03 | jelly-home | the general rule is, if you're able to mount it as user, eject should be able to unmount it |
| 17:20.19 | jelly-home | if not, eh, run eject as root |
| 17:20.25 | _2 | jelly-home /mnt shouldn't need to be in fstab though eject when given any block device address "used" to umnount that device and then send the eject command. eject would even work on hdd |
| 17:20.48 | jelly-home | _2: that depends on permissions a lot. |
| 17:20.49 | _2 | and that was as root |
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| 17:21.13 | jelly-home | oh, then I have no idea |
| 17:21.37 | _2 | eject has changed from etch to lenny :( |
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| 17:26.28 | qbwdp | i have a shell script, from which i call ant, i have JAVA_HOME and ANT_HOME defined in the script, the script runs fine from the command line, when i cron it, i get Error: JAVA_HOME is not defined correctly, i have JAVA_HOME defined in my .bashrc and in /etc/profile |
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| 17:27.45 | jordanm | qbwdp: both of those files are for interactive shells. set your environment in the script or in the crontab |
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| 17:27.59 | jordanm | qbwdp: also, the see the INVOCATION section of man bash |
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| 17:28.39 | qbwdp | jordanm: i also put it in /etc/crontab, is that what you are saying? |
| 17:29.03 | jelly-home | dima202: hmph, that was a surprisingly useless strace |
| 17:29.18 | dima202 | jelly-home: :( |
| 17:29.20 | jordanm | qbwdp: well, its your crontab is /etc/crontab or root's crontab? |
| 17:29.41 | jordanm | that sentence didn't make much since... |
| 17:29.51 | jordanm | qbwdp: is /etc/crontab what you are using? |
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| 17:29.58 | qbwdp | jordanm: that is roots, but i do have the env's defined in the script, i am rather confused |
| 17:29.58 | msm_ | if I add live-helper to lenny live cd then will it give me lvm reduce, etc command ? |
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| 17:30.29 | qbwdp | jordanm: i am loggin is as a user and doing crontab -e to add to my own crontab |
| 17:30.29 | msm_ | I am stuck with root partition taking whole of hdd....I need to reduce it and its under lvm... |
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| 17:30.49 | jordanm | qbwdp: that is not /etc/crontab, and that is where you should define your env vars |
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| 17:31.06 | qq- | msm_, asked same things on other #d and lived , why ? |
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| 17:31.44 | qq- | !tell msm about debian-live |
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| 17:32.14 | qbwdp | jordanm: but if i have them defined in the script itself and then calling the script from a cron job, it should work? |
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| 17:32.55 | jordanm | qbwdp: I would think, maybe it needs to be exported |
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| 17:33.12 | jelly-home | dima202: let's try running it directly, "strace -ff -s255 -o/tmp/bind2.strace /usr/sbin/named -u bind" then |
| 17:33.18 | qbwdp | jordanm: ah ok, good point, let me export them, don't go anywhere |
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| 17:34.03 | dima202 | jelly-home: ok |
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| 17:35.18 | jordanm | !tell qbwdp about cross-post |
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| 17:37.51 | dima202 | jelly-home: http://mrdreamer.com/bind2.tar.gz |
| 17:39.13 | qbwdp | jordanm: that is good, i am getting closer |
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| 17:41.15 | jelly-home | dima202: in eg. bind2.strace.4886, we can see chdir("/var/cache/bind"), then "access(".", W_OK) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)", then an error message being sent to syslog |
| 17:41.43 | jelly-home | dima202: check the permissions on that directory. |
| 17:41.58 | msm_ | qq: I checked debian live and prepared one but am not knowing further what to do.... |
| 17:42.02 | jelly-home | dima202: also on /var/cache |
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| 17:42.18 | dima202 | dima@MrDreamer:/var/cache$ ls -al |grep bind |
| 17:42.18 | dima202 | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2010-05-23 15:08 bind |
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| 17:42.36 | jelly-home | dima202: ls -ld somedir is shorter to write |
| 17:42.52 | qq- | msm_, so ask in #debian-live |
| 17:42.55 | themill | should be 775: root:bind |
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| 17:43.06 | msm_ | qq: no one answering there |
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| 17:43.23 | jelly-home | it's 755 root:root here on etch |
| 17:43.40 | qq- | msm_, on irc.oftc.net ? |
| 17:43.51 | dima202 | jelly-home: drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 4096 2010-06-14 19:39 cache |
| 17:43.55 | jelly-home | also, the init script is setting up /var/run/bind instead of /var/cache/bind |
| 17:44.07 | jelly-home | dima202: make it look like themill says |
| 17:44.08 | msm_ | qq: on one listed on the debian live web page |
| 17:44.21 | dima202 | ooh ok |
| 17:44.37 | aguitel | iam in squeeze and when kernel upgrade to 2.6.32-5 ati graphics is not working anymore ,anyone know this ? |
| 17:44.56 | qq- | !tell msm about debian-live |
| 17:45.08 | qq- | !tell msm_ about debian-live |
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| 17:46.04 | jordanm | aguitel: are you using the dkms package? |
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| 17:46.16 | dima202 | jelly-home: done |
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| 17:47.04 | jelly-home | dima202: does it start correctly after that (is there a named process running)? |
| 17:47.09 | dima202 | drwxrwxr-x 2 root bind 4096 2010-05-23 15:08 bind |
| 17:47.36 | aguitel | Jordanm, i folow this guide:http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
| 17:47.38 | dima202 | actually /var/cache/bind is empty dir |
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| 17:48.19 | aguitel | Jordanm, i folow this guide:http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
| 17:48.55 | aguitel | jordanm, with kernel 2.6.32-3 is working |
| 17:48.58 | jordanm | aguitel: apt-cache policy fglrx-modules-dkms |
| 17:49.12 | dima202 | jelly-home: :(damn it still same problem |
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| 17:49.34 | aguitel | jordanm, sorry i am not in the machine now |
| 17:49.44 | dima202 | jelly-home: is my /var/cache permission correct? drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 4096 2010-06-14 19:39 cache |
| 17:50.07 | jordanm | its correct if bind only needs to read it |
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| 17:50.53 | jordanm | aguitel: in that case, I can not do much more than point you towards the BTS |
| 17:50.57 | jordanm | !tell aguitel about bts |
| 17:51.27 | jelly-home | dima202: that's alright |
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| 17:51.47 | asulao | Hello. How can I install gtk 2.14 in lenny? |
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| 17:51.51 | aguitel | jordanm, later i will tell you |
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| 17:53.11 | eli_ | !dpkg |
| 17:53.12 | dpkg | methinks dpkg is the program used by debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also ask me about <reference>. The main info bot in #debian is also called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>. |
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| 17:53.42 | asulao | eli_ that was for me? |
| 17:55.17 | asulao | gtk 2.12 seems to be current stable in lenny, I'd need to get gtk 2.14. Is it possible? |
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| 17:57.03 | Bop | any help with this kernel compilation error ? -> http://pastebin.com/HmA6wezg |
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| 17:58.57 | jordanm | asulao: libs can be the most difficult to backport as upgrading libs can break existing packages |
| 17:59.30 | Dassu | Bop: Most likely you have a missing libary. Go to the debian packages -website and search for package containing: eventfd.h |
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| 18:00.04 | Bop | Dassu, <sun_S> that is a userspace ompilation, but anyway - all you need is a newer glibc |
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| 18:01.20 | dp | I've got a package saying that some file it's trying to overwrite is in another file; is there a way to force this action, instead of dieing? |
| 18:01.32 | dp | s/another file/another package/; |
| 18:01.35 | Bop | Dassu, cant find where to search :s |
| 18:02.07 | General_Jung | Hi is there any got expierence with Phonon ? |
| 18:02.10 | jordanm | dp: pastebin the full output along with: apt-cache policy; apt-cache policy <package I am trying to install> |
| 18:02.12 | asulao | jordanm, maybe install 2.14 into a separate home dir, and get to use that? May this work? |
| 18:02.25 | jordanm | asulao: yes, or to /usr/local should be fine |
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| 18:03.31 | ilia | if i compile debian from source, will i have to do the same with all software update in the future, or can i still just update them with binaries? |
| 18:03.31 | dp | jordanm: http://pastebin.dp.cx/pastebin.php?show=205509 -- I'm actually trying to downgrade ubuntu, but I figure the question works here as well |
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| 18:03.41 | Dassu | Bop: ..... google? |
| 18:03.51 | Dassu | Bop: "Debian packages2 |
| 18:03.51 | Dassu | " |
| 18:03.56 | Bop | Dassu, i've seen it ,it points to kernel-headers |
| 18:04.35 | asulao | jordanm, ok so there's a gtk 2.14 compiled somewhere? how can I get it? searched in debian package site but only found http://packages.debian.org/es/lenny-backports/libgtk2.0-0 That should be it, right? |
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| 18:07.04 | qq- | , versions libgtk2.0-0 |
| 18:07.05 | jordanm | dp: ubuntu is not supported here |
| 18:07.06 | judd | libgtk2.0-0 -- etch: 2.8.20-7; lenny: 2.12.12-1~lenny1; lenny-backports: 2.18.6-1~bpo50+1; sid: 2.20.1-1; squeeze: 2.20.1-1; experimental: 2.21.2-1 |
| 18:07.13 | jordanm | !tell dp about ubuntu |
| 18:07.17 | jordanm | !tell dp about downgrade |
| 18:07.19 | qq- | asulao, ^^ |
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| 18:07.45 | jordanm | asulao: ah, looks like you can just grab from lenny-backports if 2.18 will work |
| 18:07.51 | Dassu | Bop: most likely you have a problem with the source then. ARe you sure that you didn't apply any patches? |
| 18:08.06 | Bop | Dassu, no patches , original source |
| 18:08.22 | dp | jordanm: I know ubuntu isn't supported here |
| 18:08.24 | Dassu | why are you compiling the kernnel? |
| 18:08.29 | jordanm | Bop: I had the same issue with trying to compile .33 on lenny |
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| 18:08.47 | asulao | jordanm, yes, 2.18 is greater so I guess will work. I'm just figuring out now how to get apt-get to install it into a separate dir, and get then a single program to use those instead of the standard ones |
| 18:08.52 | Bop | jordanm, what did u do to fix it ? |
| 18:08.55 | blockcold | how can i see shared flder from host to vhost |
| 18:08.57 | dp | I'm trying to ask if there's a way to force one package to overwrite some file another package "owns" |
| 18:08.59 | jordanm | dp: then why did you come here for support? |
| 18:09.07 | jordanm | Bop: I compiled it in my squeeze VM |
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| 18:09.11 | qbwdp | jordanm: all my scripts are working and the customer is happy, thank you for pointing out my flaw, i forgot to export |
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| 18:09.28 | jordanm | qbwdp: ah, good to hear |
| 18:09.32 | Bop | jordanm, ok :| |
| 18:09.40 | dp | jordanm: because #ubuntu fails |
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| 18:09.47 | jordanm | !they don't know |
| 18:09.47 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 18:09.52 | Dassu | gotta go now :) |
| 18:09.53 | valqk | hey guys. hello |
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| 18:10.37 | valqk | I have a problem with lighttpd on lenny (uptodate) - it dies without logging anything (at least I wasn't able to find any msg. the lightty has 3 ports listening - 1 for serving static html files and 2 on different ports for serving different php-cgis. |
| 18:11.01 | valqk | anyone that had such problem and knows the solution, before I start debugging it? |
| 18:11.28 | jordanm | valqk: the bts is always a good place to check first |
| 18:11.35 | valqk | ppl from lighty channel are not aware of such problem so this could be debian specific |
| 18:11.39 | qq- | valqk, try apache instead , lighttpd don't 'like' heavy load |
| 18:12.04 | wash | valqk: I had a similiar issue, but it was relatively easy fix. I don't remember exactly what the fix was, though |
| 18:12.09 | valqk | qq-: thanks.no. :) I know what I want. it actually dies when server is not that loaded |
| 18:12.12 | wash | but it took like 5 minutes to work out |
| 18:12.15 | dp | jordanm: forgive me for thinking that #debian would know how to make dpkg/apt-get do what I wanted |
| 18:12.19 | jordanm | dp: even if that *was* debian, downgrading is still unsupported |
| 18:12.27 | dp | irrelevant |
| 18:12.28 | valqk | the problem is that I have nothing in the logs. it simply dies |
| 18:12.39 | dp | my question was how to overwrite the files of one package with another |
| 18:12.47 | wash | @valqk: how are you running it? through init.d? |
| 18:12.59 | jordanm | dp: your point is irrelevant. there are hundreds of distros that use dpkg/apt. we only support debian here |
| 18:13.05 | valqk | bits? |
| 18:13.18 | wash | ? |
| 18:13.26 | dp | blargh. another # that is infinitely unhelpful |
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| 18:13.42 | valqk | wash: yep. init.d/ligt start |
| 18:13.44 | wash | valqk: I mean, are you invoking /etc/init.d/lighttpd start, or just lighttpd? |
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| 18:13.48 | wash | try just lighttpd |
| 18:13.49 | wash | that way, |
| 18:13.55 | wash | the errors will print to your terminal |
| 18:14.19 | valqk | wash: oh. I'm going to try this but just wanted to ask if someone else faced that. :) |
| 18:14.33 | wash | Yep :) |
| 18:14.34 | Bop | is there a script to update lenny to squeeze ? |
| 18:14.41 | wash | It works fine for me now |
| 18:14.53 | wash | I prefer it over apache, much smaller and easier to configure |
| 18:15.18 | qq- | !tell Bop about lenny->squeeze |
| 18:15.19 | Bop | or just changing sources.lst will be enough ? |
| 18:15.30 | dima202 | jelly-home: thanks for your help |
| 18:15.43 | dima202 | jelly-home: I will just re-install debian and not install any updates |
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| 18:16.49 | jelly-home | dima202: good luck |
| 18:17.05 | dima202 | jelly-home: thanks |
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| 18:20.29 | valqk | thanks wash :) laterz. |
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| 18:22.22 | shtrb | [n00b?] how do I add Ralink driver to wpa_supplicant ? |
| 18:23.45 | shtrb | I'm using 7392:7718 that is supported by rt2800usb but in order to use encrypted networks I need to use -DRalink parameter |
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| 18:24.57 | jordanm | !rt2800usb |
| 18:24.58 | dpkg | The Ralink RT2800U[D] USB chipset (RT2870) is supported by the rt2x00 project's rt2800usb driver, included in the mainline Linux kernel since 2.6.31-rc1. Firmware is required, ask me about <ralink firmware> and install firmware-ralink 0.17 or later. Be sure to <blacklist> rt2870sta prior to use. For the vendor driver (more usable but amd64, i386 only), ask me about <rt2870sta>. |
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| 18:28.53 | shtrb | jodanm, well I did that and this don't answer my question since I noted that I need to accses the encrypted version |
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| 18:29.55 | shtrb | Or I should not use Ralink as the driver ? |
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| 18:32.16 | rking | I wonder if there's a way root can forcibly close a filehandle for some user's program. My whole family uses this computer, and many times one person will run some sound app and forget to close it... then usually I end up doing a lsof /dev/snd/* + killing the pid that owns the files |
| 18:32.20 | NiLon | so uh, I have eth0 with cable, and eth1 is wlan, both have metric 1, how I change it so that system preferes eth0 over eth1 (basically that metric value) |
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| 18:32.58 | squisher | rking, usually concurrent access to alsa is not a problem |
| 18:33.11 | squisher | if it is, you need to improve your alsa setup, e.g. by using an asoundrc |
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| 18:33.37 | rking | squisher: asoundrc's have mystified me 10 out of 10 times I've tried to understand them. |
| 18:33.50 | squisher | NiLon, I _think_ you need to increase the metric on eth1 -- it's a 'cost' metric if I recall correctly |
| 18:34.02 | squisher | rking, just use an example |
| 18:34.16 | rking | .pcm{^^ 42; type asdf->over,under }}}59 + abc = default.ctl.mixer0 |
| 18:34.18 | NiLon | squisher yeah that is correct fix, but ..how :D |
| 18:34.44 | NiLon | ifconfig got metric parameter atleast hmm |
| 18:35.10 | NiLon | $ ifconfig eth1 metric 10 |
| 18:35.10 | NiLon | SIOCSIFMETRIC: Operation not supported |
| 18:35.14 | NiLon | okay, next way? |
| 18:35.28 | TGP1994 | Hi everyone. I've been messing around with a very old distro of debian, (Woody), and I'm trying to get xf86 to work. I'm running it through VMware, although I can't install vmware tools. (That's a different story.) Any who, when I try to run xf86cfg, I get the following error: PEXExtensionInit: Couldn't open default PEX font file Roman_M |
| 18:35.36 | TGP1994 | If anyone knows how to fix that, that would be great. |
| 18:36.06 | rking | squisher: good tip---thank you. |
| 18:36.34 | jordanm | TGP1994: why are you working with woody? |
| 18:36.48 | TGP1994 | Jordanm: To see what things looked like back then. |
| 18:38.08 | shtrb | Anyone about the wpa_supplicant driver for RA ? (the module is loaded and I can use on non encrypted networks) |
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| 18:41.14 | NiLon | so um, instead of using ifconfig I should modify routing configuration file, but where is that |
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| 18:41.29 | NiLon | or is that same as /etc/networking/interfaces |
| 18:42.22 | squisher | NiLon, I think it's the 'route' command |
| 18:42.49 | TGP1994 | Anyone have any ideas? |
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| 18:45.03 | NiLon | squisher ok, I just have no idea how to use that :P |
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| 18:46.07 | qq- | man route ;) |
| 18:46.37 | jordanm | NiLon: the interfaces file is the correct place for static routes, but in the form of post-up route commands |
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| 18:47.21 | abrotman | TGP1994: how did you install Xfree? (and really, why woody?) |
| 18:47.35 | jordanm | abrotman: 2010-06-14 14:36 < TGP1994> Jordanm: To see what things looked like back then. |
| 18:47.46 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 18:47.46 | jordanm | didn't mean to bold that |
| 18:47.46 | abrotman | they looked crusty :) |
| 18:47.49 | TGP1994 | abrotman: Ya, and I'm trying to use the oldest distro |
| 18:47.56 | abrotman | TGP1994: there are much older distros |
| 18:48.06 | TGP1994 | Well, I tried potato, that was a no-go. |
| 18:48.14 | TGP1994 | Anything older, I can't find an install disk for. |
| 18:48.23 | jordanm | TGP1994: IMO, you need to find a 386 PC in a junk yard |
| 18:48.34 | diago | I've been spending some time looking a log monitoring software. What do you guys recommend? |
| 18:48.51 | TGP1994 | jordanm: Lol, I think this should actually work, since the vmware driver is already installed. |
| 18:48.52 | jordanm | diago: logwatch |
| 18:49.00 | abrotman | TGP1994: how did you install xfree? |
| 18:49.10 | TGP1994 | abrotman: With tasksel. |
| 18:49.13 | NiLon | hmm so I can't just change metric value of interface |
| 18:49.29 | squisher | can anyone confirm that bug #488970 is still valid in sid? |
| 18:49.34 | jordanm | NiLon: no, because an interface does not have a metric value, routes do |
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| 18:50.15 | NiLon | jordanm so basically I need to spam that route every 5min as it changes ip |
| 18:50.20 | NiLon | geez |
| 18:50.46 | jordanm | NiLon: I didn't hear the initial problem |
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| 18:51.18 | diago | jordanm: I looked into logwatch, I'll do some more reading on it. I also saw swatch which looked interesting |
| 18:51.49 | TGP1994 | So, does anyone have any ideas? Or are we all anti-oldskool here :P |
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| 18:51.58 | NiLon | ok, I have eth0 (cable) and eth1 (wlan), I need system to prefer eth0 over eth1, basically so that eth1 is used only when I do bind ip in program x, both interfaces got metric value of 1 and now it seems that eth1 is going to take over |
| 18:52.16 | danielgapa | hello all. |
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| 18:52.35 | NiLon | eth1 is got basically random ip via dhcp and it's changing in regular basics so I can't really use ip itself.. |
| 18:52.39 | jordanm | NiLon: you mean the _route_ via the eth1 interface got a metric of 1... |
| 18:53.05 | jordanm | NiLon: I would just refuse a default route from eth1, set in dhclient.conf |
| 18:53.06 | NiLon | jordanm yeah, but that's semantics if you know what I mean |
| 18:53.09 | abrotman | TGP1994: moment |
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| 18:53.15 | TGP1994 | abrotman: Ok, thank you |
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| 18:54.47 | NiLon | jordanm problem is that I have no idea how to do that |
| 18:55.45 | jordanm | NiLon: try looking at man dhclient.conf |
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| 18:56.10 | NiLon | jordanm already did, but I have no idea what I should be looking for |
| 18:56.46 | squisher | NiLon, you could also just use networkmanager and only switch over to wlan when wired is down |
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| 18:56.59 | jordanm | NiLon: did you try searching for "route"? |
| 18:57.05 | NiLon | squisher no, both need to be up same time |
| 18:57.13 | NiLon | jordanm yes |
| 18:57.21 | honschu | Hi, I can scan with "iwlist eth1 scanning" and get 3 APs, but I can't connect to the open one. Does anybody know why? (iwconfig eth1 essid "OPEN_NET" && dhclient eth1) doesn't work. |
| 18:57.47 | NiLon | jordanm and router is only word and contains route |
| 18:57.56 | jordanm | NiLon: you need to setup an interface stanza for the interface you don't want a default route from. then you simply need to _not_ include routers in the request line |
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| 18:58.15 | jordanm | right, "routers" is what it calls it |
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| 18:58.42 | jordanm | NiLon: look at the samples at the end |
| 18:59.39 | NiLon | so uh, I need to exclude "routers" from that request parameter? |
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| 19:00.09 | jordanm | NiLon: yes, and you can do that without creating an interface block if that is the only one using dhcp |
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| 19:00.33 | NiLon | eth0 and eth1 are both using dhcp |
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| 19:01.31 | jordanm | NiLon: then you need to specify for the interface as shown in the example |
| 19:02.04 | NiLon | but I don't see how removing that routers will affect to metric value |
| 19:02.12 | honschu | Hi, I can scan with "iwlist eth1 scanning" and get 3 APs, but I can't connect to the open one. Does anybody know why? (iwconfig eth1 essid "OPEN_NET" && dhclient eth1) doesn't work. |
| 19:02.20 | abrotman | TGP1994: it would be `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' IIRC |
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| 19:02.57 | jordanm | NiLon: that route won't even exist to have a metric |
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| 19:03.18 | TGP1994 | abrotman: I'll give it a try, thank you. |
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| 19:03.24 | jordanm | NiLon: when you explained the scenerio, it didn't sound like you needed it |
| 19:03.33 | abrotman | TGP1994: it's been awhile .. but you should at least be able to get VESA going |
| 19:03.48 | jordanm | NiLon: err, although I am assuming they are on different networks |
| 19:03.49 | TGP1994 | abrotman: So I want to use VESA, and not the vmware driver? |
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| 19:04.37 | NiLon | jordanm same network, but I don't wanna eth1 to be default interface for system |
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| 19:04.54 | jordanm | NiLon: why do you want two interfaces on the same net at all? |
| 19:05.03 | pirx | hello! has anyone used the cpulimit command? |
| 19:05.39 | NiLon | jordanm to get new ip for use |
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| 19:06.03 | jordanm | NiLon: you can assign a single interface many IPs, I don't see the point |
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| 19:06.35 | NiLon | jordanm but I can't change (easily) change mac for interfaces |
| 19:06.43 | NiLon | -change |
| 19:07.00 | jordanm | NiLon: why would you need to? |
| 19:07.13 | TGP1994 | Oh, and abrotman, should I disable pex5? |
| 19:07.15 | NiLon | because I wanna get unique ip from dhcp |
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| 19:07.46 | lontra | is it possible to get debian 64 bit to work with canon pixma ip4500 printer? i've tried with canon's driver but they are all 32 bit :p |
| 19:08.01 | jordanm | NiLon: so all this headache because you can't give the interface static addresses? |
| 19:08.11 | NiLon | jordanm yep |
| 19:08.22 | mharris | TGP1994: Don't disable PEX5 or it will break all apps that use phigs |
| 19:08.25 | jordanm | NiLon: why is that? |
| 19:08.34 | TGP1994 | mharris: Ok, thanks/ |
| 19:08.34 | NiLon | because I'm not allowed to |
| 19:08.48 | jordanm | boss? isp? |
| 19:08.56 | NiLon | isp |
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| 19:09.35 | jordanm | I suppose I still don't understand. that would make this box your router if eth0 is the WAN for your network |
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| 19:09.53 | jordanm | NiLon: yet, you have two interfaces on the WAN and one is wireless? |
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| 19:10.00 | TGP1994 | mharris And abrotman: Not startx complains that there are no usable modes for my monitor :( I think I set it up ok. |
| 19:10.09 | abrotman | TGP1994: which driver did you pick ? |
| 19:10.20 | NiLon | jordanm eth0 and eth1 are different nic's |
| 19:10.21 | jordanm | NiLon: it _really_ sounded like you were getting a DHCP addy from a networking device on your LAN, not from your ISP on the internet |
| 19:10.21 | TGP1994 | vesa |
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| 19:10.29 | abrotman | what mode did you pick ? |
| 19:10.35 | TGP1994 | abrotman: vesa. |
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| 19:10.37 | jordanm | NiLon: right, and they both get DHCP addys from your ISP? |
| 19:10.47 | TGP1994 | abrotman Oh, wait |
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| 19:10.52 | TGP1994 | abrotman: Mode? As in what? |
| 19:10.53 | NiLon | jordanm yep |
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| 19:11.16 | jordanm | NiLon: and one is *wireless*? |
| 19:11.40 | mintee_colo | hey all, was in here yesterday for a while talking about my odd problem. Rebooted an etch machine first time in 596 days, and now I cannot get any type of network. Can't even ping my loopback |
| 19:11.54 | NiLon | jordanm eth1 is wireless, behind nat and eth0 is cable without nat |
| 19:12.10 | NiLon | jordanm only problem there is that system is using eth1 over eth0, I don't wanna it to do that |
| 19:12.31 | NiLon | basically I wanna say to system that: only use eth1 when asked for |
| 19:12.34 | mintee_colo | still running a 2.6.18 kernel, and was wondering if maybe one of the kernel modules got borked.. was gonna upgrade to 2.6.26, but i cannot find a static binary for etch. |
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| 19:13.28 | TGP1994 | abrotman: What do you mean by mode? |
| 19:13.38 | NiLon | jordanm windows gives wlan connections higher metric value by default so same setups works at windows flawlessly, but I can't it to behave same way on this debian box now |
| 19:13.41 | jordanm | NiLon: I can't help you if you give me false information |
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| 19:15.27 | mintee_colo | :0 |
| 19:15.29 | NiLon | jordanm imo I didn't give any false information.. |
| 19:16.10 | mintee_colo | anyone have any clues as to why i couldn't ping the loopback interface (let alone anything else) |
| 19:16.20 | abrotman | TGP1994: the resolutoin and bit depth |
| 19:16.40 | TGP1994 | abrotman: Ah, I believe it selected 640, 800, and 1024, all at 24. |
| 19:16.45 | abrotman | mintee_colo: what's in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 19:16.46 | NiLon | jordanm recap: eth0 is using cable, it's using dhcp to get ip (bridged connection), eth1 is wireless, it's using dhcp to get ip (routed connection using nat) |
| 19:16.53 | abrotman | TGP1994: try 800x600 at 16bit |
| 19:17.07 | NiLon | jordanm both get same metric value, and system is picking eth1 over eth0 right now |
| 19:17.09 | TGP1994 | So delete the other selections/ |
| 19:18.28 | mintee_colo | abrotman: the standard. auto lo and my static eth0 config |
| 19:18.45 | mederEsite | what's a preferred directory in which i can place apps like django-1.2 and such, whereas my system default is 1.1? |
| 19:18.49 | mederEsite | somewhere in /usr? |
| 19:18.54 | abrotman | mintee_colo: and if you 'ifup lo' .. does it say anything ? |
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| 19:19.01 | mederEsite | /usr/share is one recommendation i got |
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| 19:19.14 | mederEsite | wasnt there a place in /usr/local too where it's preferred to dl stuff in? |
| 19:19.18 | mintee_colo | already configured |
| 19:19.30 | TGP1994 | abrotman: Holy free holy batman, that almost fixed it! Some sort of misconfiguration with the mouse now, which I think I can handle. Thanks! |
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| 19:21.05 | abrotman | TGP1994: you likely chose the wrong mouse device, it's probably /dev/psaux |
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| 19:21.21 | mintee_colo | wth! I just noticed that my INPUT table for iptables was set for DROP |
| 19:21.28 | abrotman | whoops |
| 19:21.29 | mintee_colo | how the hell did that get there? |
| 19:21.30 | TGP1994 | abrotman: Ya, that's what's always worked for me, I'm fixing that now. |
| 19:21.43 | mintee_colo | HAHAHA, I swore I looked at that the other day |
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| 19:23.02 | TGP1994 | abrotman: Hmm, now startx stops with the error: Caught signal 4. Aborting. |
| 19:23.08 | TGP1994 | I didn't press Ctrl+C :S |
| 19:23.12 | abrotman | should be more than that |
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| 19:23.50 | TGP1994 | abrotman: The last thing it says before that is "Adding extended input device "Configured Mouse" (type: MOUSE)" |
| 19:24.06 | shtrb | could anyone take a look at http://pastebin.org/331070 (unable to associate to AP with rt2800usb module) - with a different card I can connect to that net (SCE) |
| 19:24.16 | abrotman | does it make you pick a protocol? (it's been so long) |
| 19:24.33 | abrotman | TGP1994: you will also have to 'modprobe psmouse' IIRC |
| 19:24.37 | TGP1994 | abrotman: When I was using debconf, yes, and it's set for psaux. |
| 19:24.44 | TGP1994 | abrotman: Ok, will give it a try. |
| 19:24.58 | TGP1994 | can't locate module psmouse :S |
| 19:25.08 | abrotman | maybe it was compiled in ... |
| 19:25.17 | TGP1994 | Probably. |
| 19:25.28 | abrotman | dmesg | grep -i mouse ? |
| 19:25.40 | abrotman | shtrb: you're missing details like your kernel version, etc |
| 19:25.49 | TGP1994 | abrotman: Nothing returned :( |
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| 19:26.15 | TGP1994 | abrotman: Would the kernel actually try setting up the mouse though, at boot? |
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| 19:27.11 | shtrb | abrotman , sorry - 2.6.32-4 , 7392:7718 Edimax Technology Co., Ltd EW-7718UN 802.11n , using rt2800usb |
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| 19:28.42 | TGP1994 | abrotman: I think I may have confused the protocol back there, the protocol is actually PS/2, and the device should be /dev/psauc. |
| 19:28.45 | TGP1994 | *psaux |
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| 19:29.23 | TGP1994 | The driver should be mouse, right? |
| 19:29.35 | rawler_ | Hi, I've got a suggested improvement on a debian-package, with debdiff, but reportbug crashes on me.. |
| 19:30.33 | rawler_ | is there some other fairly simple way for me to submit a proposed patch in a way that it will be reviewed and unless something wrong, adopted? |
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| 19:31.04 | abrotman | TGP1994: i said that? |
| 19:31.18 | abrotman | shtrb: that kernel doesn't exist in debian anymore |
| 19:31.19 | nascentmind | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:31.25 | TGP1994 | abrotman: What? I don't think so, I was just clearing up what I said :P |
| 19:31.35 | bolt | How can I do this in vim? :%s/<begin>.*<end>/<cow>.*<moo>/g <-- the .* part actually matches stuff, but in the replacement string, it actually puts a dot and a star |
| 19:32.12 | shtrb | abrotman, ha ? apt-cache policy linux-image-`uname -r` linux-image-2.6.32-4-amd64: Installed: 2.6.32-10 Candidate: 2.6.32-10 |
| 19:32.41 | shtrb | oops .. |
| 19:33.00 | JasonWoof | bolt: %s/<begin>\(.*\)<end>/<cow>\1<moo>/g |
| 19:33.58 | bolt | JasonWoof: ah. i get it. thanks :) |
| 19:34.24 | JasonWoof | bolt: that's standard regular expression stuff. sed works the same way. vim and sed just differ on what requires backslashes |
| 19:34.48 | bolt | JasonWoof: yeh. i've just never needed the original string before. i've seen that syntax now that you mention it though :) |
| 19:35.20 | JasonWoof | bolt: huh, I use the original strings all the time |
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| 19:35.37 | bolt | JasonWoof: then we do different stuff most of the time :P |
| 19:35.44 | puty | #NiLon |
| 19:36.04 | Roasted | what's up guys... running apache here, curious about editing hte default layout of the apache index screen. I know basic html, but just curious - wheres the layout that apache looks to by default? |
| 19:36.12 | abrotman | shtrb: aptitude install linux-image-amd64 |
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| 19:36.36 | JasonWoof | Roasted: you want to customize the directory listing? |
| 19:36.41 | Roasted | JasonWoof, yes. |
| 19:36.50 | Roasted | JasonWoof, just basic things. background color, text color, etc. VERY basic. |
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| 19:37.09 | Roasted | no crazy CSS sheets or flash animation or anything |
| 19:37.38 | JasonWoof | Roasted: http://howto.unixdev.net/dirlist.html |
| 19:38.23 | Roasted | um.. is this what I want? |
| 19:38.34 | Roasted | it doesnt even tell me which file apache looks to by default |
| 19:38.36 | JasonWoof | Roasted: it says you can put custom html at the top and at the bottom |
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| 19:38.52 | JasonWoof | Roasted: doesn't need to, you specify what you want to use instead |
| 19:38.59 | Roasted | I'd kindo f like to do the whole thing in the way I'd like though. |
| 19:39.01 | JasonWoof | Roasted: you can put css in the header that changes how it looks |
| 19:39.04 | Roasted | I just don't know what file it looks to by default. |
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| 19:39.26 | Roasted | I don't know CSS. I know basic html. What I want to do can be accomplished by basic html so I'd like to do that if at all possible. |
| 19:39.32 | JasonWoof | just view source from the browser, slice off the top and bottom, and then edit them |
| 19:39.40 | Roasted | I did that. |
| 19:39.41 | karsten | Roasted: CSS is the proper way to do this. |
| 19:39.54 | TGP1994 | abrotman: Any last ideas? |
| 19:39.59 | Roasted | if its the proper way, why doesnt apache use css by default? :P |
| 19:40.09 | Roasted | it uses html by default, hence why I'll stick with that. |
| 19:40.20 | Roasted | like I said, I just need to know which file apache points to for the default layout you see. |
| 19:40.37 | JasonWoof | Roasted: you can set the background color without css, but if you want to meddle with how the rows in the listing are displayed, you'll need to learn a little css. It shouldn't be that hard, there's thousands of tutorials on css basics |
| 19:40.48 | Roasted | again |
| 19:40.50 | Roasted | using html |
| 19:40.55 | Roasted | what file does apache point to by default? |
| 19:41.14 | Roasted | for its layout, etc |
| 19:41.17 | themill | Roasted: there isn't one. |
| 19:41.24 | Roasted | so how does apache list the layouts then? |
| 19:41.29 | JasonWoof | Roasted: don't mess with that stuff, use the settings to configure it to use your own files |
| 19:41.32 | karsten | Roasted: You want to include in the page: <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://howst.example.com/path-to-css/your.cs""> |
| 19:42.06 | Roasted | karsten, so I'd have to "link" the CSS to the default html page apache uses. |
| 19:42.14 | Roasted | But evidently, apache doesnt use a default html page according to themill. |
| 19:42.15 | themill | Roasted: please keep your ubuntu questions in #ubuntu. |
| 19:42.18 | Roasted | so, how would I do that? |
| 19:42.19 | JasonWoof | apache doesn't bother with css because they are not in the business of making things look good. They let you do that yourself if you want to |
| 19:42.20 | karsten | Roasted: CSS is part of HTML, the content, not HTTP, the protocol (which Apache's responsible for serving). If you think Apache should have stylesheets and investigation of index pages shows it doesn't, you're welcome to file a bug. |
| 19:42.30 | karsten | Roasted: Yes. |
| 19:42.34 | Roasted | themill, I would happily keep my ubuntu questions in ubuntu. My question here is about apache on debian. Thank you. |
| 19:42.44 | TGP1994 | Roasted: Thank you :( |
| 19:42.54 | Roasted | TGP1994, k? |
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| 19:43.01 | themill | Roasted: and you just happened to have exactly the same question about your ubuntu machine did you? Wow. coincidence. |
| 19:43.04 | TGP1994 | Roasted: Darn mIRC is about to have a heart attack. |
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| 19:43.11 | karsten | Roasted: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_autoindex.html |
| 19:43.25 | Roasted | themill, lol. Did it never occur to you that some people have more than 1 box? wow. imagine that. |
| 19:44.38 | karsten | Roasted: Simmer donw. But keep in minnd that #ubuntu supports ubuntu, #debian debian, and other channels their respective distros and tools. Abusing that isn't taken too kindly in general. Clue is high here though. |
| 19:44.46 | TGP1994 | abrotman: Any last ideas? |
| 19:45.14 | Roasted | karsten, understandable. But keep in mind, I have more than 1 box, so people having a hissy fit that I happen to be asking the same question here is kidn of a pita when I'm asking for a simple answer. |
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| 19:45.50 | jhutchins | Roasted: We get a lot of people who abuse the channel because they're running something _they_ think is just rebranded debian. |
| 19:45.57 | karsten | Roasted: I understand. ENough Enough already. |
| 19:46.00 | Roasted | karsten, I have a debian box at home, which is my samba server. I have ubuntu at work on my laptop, which is what I was tinkering with apache on. But ultimately the final deployment of apache for me will be on a debian box. |
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| 19:46.41 | Roasted | So now, I still have some questions about apache. How exactly does it get instruction to be laid out with blue links, white background, and says at the bottom powered by apache or whatever on port 80. WHERE is that "html" file again? |
| 19:46.44 | themill | Roasted: if you can't imagine why we get sick of people not getting the answers they want in #ubuntu so trying #debian next, then you need to expand your irc horizons a little... I'd advise you do your tinkering on the same platform as you intend to deploy on though. It will save heartache in the long run. |
| 19:47.01 | karsten | Roasted: Um, is there a part of "enough already" you don't get? |
| 19:47.05 | Roasted | themill, I am tinkering on both for learning purposes. ty. |
| 19:47.14 | Roasted | karsten, lol? |
| 19:47.17 | Roasted | no, I got it. thanks though? |
| 19:47.19 | themill | Roasted: there is no html file as both karsten and I have said. And you've been pointed to the docs. |
| 19:47.27 | Roasted | the docs... |
| 19:47.56 | Roasted | I see that. |
| 19:48.30 | Roasted | according to the docs, it is controlled by index.html. but I thought there wasn't an html associated with that? |
| 19:49.17 | themill | Roasted: that's a long document that's going to take you some time to read. Please stop blithering away in #d for a while and take the time to digest it. |
| 19:49.42 | Roasted | oh, I'm sorry. I just saw my answer in line 1 and thought perhaps I'd question why the doc answer differs from what was said here. |
| 19:50.00 | Roasted | Is it like, against hte rules to ask a question here in hopes for an answer? I didn't think what I was asking was that difficult. |
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| 19:50.38 | themill | Roasted: you've got your answer and it seems you're refusing to read and listen. Please take some time away from the channel to actually read. |
| 19:50.48 | TGP1994 | abrotman: Go figure, after upgrading to the 2.4 kernel, it works without a hitch :P |
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| 19:51.42 | jhutchins | Roasted: One of the problems here is that the answer for ubuntu may not be the same as the answer for debian. |
| 19:51.58 | jhutchins | Roasted: As far as I know, file listings are generated by internal code in apache. |
| 19:52.15 | abrotman | TGP1994: not totally surprised |
| 19:52.27 | jhutchins | Roasted: You can make some modifications in the list attributes, like which icons to use, but I don't think anything but the default CSS determines fonts or color. |
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| 19:53.08 | jhutchins | Roasted: You would need to check the docs on http://www.w3c.org to track down what the element tags are for parts of the list, then do a CSS that addresses those elements. |
| 19:54.03 | jhutchins | Roasted: Remember the original html model was that the server specified the _type_ of each element, and it was up to the browser how that element was rendered. |
| 19:54.12 | Bop | ,kernels |
| 19:54.12 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.34-1-686 (2.6.34-1~experimental.2); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-15~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-22lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
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| 19:54.18 | jhutchins | Roasted: There's been a lot of abuse to force a certain rendering, but it's still mostly up to the browser. |
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| 19:56.38 | abrotman | TGP1994: sorry, i had gotten distracted with uh .. work :) |
| 19:56.41 | aguitel | jordanm, i am now in the machine with ati card |
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| 19:57.27 | aguitel | jordanm,do you remember my case? |
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| 20:01.38 | jordanm | aguitel: yes |
| 20:01.51 | jordanm | aguitel: issues after kernel upgrade |
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| 20:03.09 | Puty | hi. anyone runing AR242x on debian 2.6.26-2-686 with ath5k? i would to like to know if it works . i have read some problem wiht this kernel |
| 20:04.22 | abrotman | Puty: there is a newer kernel at backports.org |
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| 20:04.26 | abrotman | (if that is the case) |
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| 20:05.21 | Puty | yes I know. thanks |
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| 20:07.36 | shtrb | abortman, same result for 2.6.32-5 :-( |
| 20:08.18 | aguitel_ | i am in squeeze with ati graphic card,and i upgrade kernel to 2.6.32-5 and there is no 3D now ,someone know this? |
| 20:08.19 | abrotman | shtrb: there is a vendor driver if you'd prefer |
| 20:08.38 | shtrb | sorry abrotman, the result for wpa_supplicant is the same for 2.6.32-5 is there a compat-wireless package in deb reps ? |
| 20:08.45 | abrotman | !rt2870sta |
| 20:08.45 | dpkg | The vendor driver for Ralink RT2870 & RT3070/1 USB 802.11n wireless LAN devices (rt2870sta) is included as a staging driver (amd64, i386 only) in mainline Linux kernels as of 2.6.29; RT3071 support merged in 2.6.32. Firmware is required, ask me about <ralink firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/rt2870sta . For device use in other architectures, ask me about <rt2800usb>. For Ralink PCI 802.11n device support, ask about <rt2860sta>. |
| 20:09.04 | abrotman | shtrb: i'd try the STA driver probably |
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| 20:10.08 | JasonWoof | is there an easy way to keep the last few kernel versions installed? |
| 20:10.48 | shtrb | well didn't test the vendor one (it is allrady in the kernel), but sta also isn't able to auth with wpa |
| 20:11.09 | jordanm | shtrb: I always used madwifi with my AR242x |
| 20:11.30 | qq- | JasonWoof, yes, ... don't remove (uninstall) them |
| 20:11.37 | jordanm | oh, nvm, I got people mixed up, you had the usb |
| 20:11.42 | shtrb | AR is atheros I'm using RT based |
| 20:11.52 | tharkun | I'm stuck with tightvnc, where can i look for information on what is wrong? |
| 20:12.03 | jordanm | Puty: I always used madwifi with my AR242x. give that a try if all else fails |
| 20:12.06 | JasonWoof | qq-: they are removed automatically when I do upgrades (U in aptitude) |
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| 20:13.44 | Puty | thanks right now i am on madwifi and works fine |
| 20:13.58 | Puty | jordanm |
| 20:14.40 | jordanm | Puty: I would stick with that unless you have issues with the "freeness" of the driver |
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| 20:16.20 | Puty | jordanm no problem with freeness of the driver |
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| 20:17.48 | slidesinger | I goofed and now have a system stuck in limbo. It tried to upgrade udev from lenny to squeeze and I allowed it. Got to a point where it stated I shouldn't do this unless I know what I am doing and I stopped. Decided, for this box, to go ahead and do a full upgrade to squeeze but there is the half installed state and, |
| 20:17.51 | slidesinger | to make matters worse, the web browser is now non functional. It provides me with an assert failed message each time I try to use. I think getting apt clear and doing a full upgrade to squeeze will correct everything, but uncertain how to proceed. |
| 20:18.02 | Puty | jordanm just when run airodump on channel 3 for exmple the channel is changeing |
| 20:18.22 | jordanm | Puty: that has nothing to do with the driver, that is lack of reading the airodump manpage |
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| 20:18.58 | Puty | i read i thing all internet about this :) |
| 20:19.10 | Puty | i wake up it on channel |
| 20:19.10 | jordanm | Puty: -c <channel>.... |
| 20:19.17 | Puty | yes |
| 20:19.24 | jordanm | and it still jumps channels? |
| 20:19.26 | Puty | i tried everything |
| 20:19.29 | Puty | yes |
| 20:19.34 | jordanm | Puty: #aircrack-ng |
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| 20:19.39 | Puty | jumping like loco |
| 20:19.45 | Puty | yes |
| 20:19.52 | Puty | aircrack-ng |
| 20:19.54 | Puty | 1.0 |
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| 20:20.24 | slidesinger | Puty: He means /join #aircrack-ng |
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| 20:20.41 | Puty | yes i try also this |
| 20:20.45 | aguitel_ | i am in squeeze with ati graphic card,and i upgrade kernel to 2.6.32-5 and there is no 3D now ,someone know this? |
| 20:20.47 | Puty | nothing |
| 20:21.23 | Puty | but when i run backtrack 4 which have ath5k funcion perfectly |
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| 20:22.18 | slidesinger | Puty: #aircrack-ng is the IRC channel for aircrack-ng, the folks there will have more specific knowledge and should be better able to help you solve your issue. |
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| 20:22.57 | Puty | slidesigner i told u that i try it but nothing |
| 20:23.09 | Puty | tried it |
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| 20:24.08 | Puty | i am not asking about this |
| 20:24.47 | Puty | i was explaining to jordanm |
| 20:26.23 | HardDisk_WP | anyone here who has experience w/ unfsd? |
| 20:26.24 | HardDisk_WP | http://pastebin.com/PjmqDg1h |
| 20:26.32 | HardDisk_WP | why do i get connection refused from the client? |
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| 20:26.58 | sigmonsays | pinning? |
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| 20:27.04 | sigmonsays | dpkg, pinning? |
| 20:27.05 | dpkg | Pinning is a method to choose which version of a package to install when multiple versions are available from <sources.list>. Bugs are explained at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/debian.html#errata . If you use stable, pinning won't help you from messing up the system, ask me about <backports> instead. http://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences |
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| 20:29.11 | shtrb | could some add a note to dpkg ? - when using rt2800usb with an 'N' dongle wpa_supplicant must use the nl80211 driver and not wext ? |
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| 20:30.15 | shtrb | *could someone please ... |
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| 20:30.55 | aguitel_ | jordanm, i am in squeeze with ati graphic card,and i upgrade kernel to 2.6.32-5 and there is no 3D now ,do you know this? |
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| 20:31.23 | pLr | HardDisk_WP: try running unfsd -static |
| 20:31.26 | jhutchins_lt | shtrb: That's probably more relevant to the wifi page on the wiki. |
| 20:31.53 | jhutchins_lt | shtrb: Or any other wifi wiki, it's probably not debian specific. |
| 20:31.56 | slidesinger | Got it!! |
| 20:32.08 | slidesinger | apt is so robust! |
| 20:32.09 | shtrb | but dpkg says some thing that is missing |
| 20:32.49 | shtrb | plus there is an error in it note |
| 20:32.53 | HardDisk_WP | pLr, unfsd: invalid option -- 'a' or with --static: unfsd: invalid option -- '-' |
| 20:32.55 | shtrb | since when using N driver person must not use the sta |
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| 20:35.05 | pLr | HardDisk_WP: i forget the option.. hold on |
| 20:35.12 | HardDisk_WP | thx |
| 20:35.47 | tharkun | Why does tightvnc does not have a startup script on /etc/init.d ? |
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| 20:36.46 | inspiron | what's the point of module-assistant? |
| 20:36.47 | pLr | HardDisk_WP: do you have portmap installed? |
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| 20:37.05 | HardDisk_WP | yes, and it shows as daemon 27226 0.0 0.1 8088 624 ? Ss 01:38 0:00 /sbin/portmap |
| 20:38.07 | pLr | HardDisk_WP: so try "/sbin/portmap start; /sbin/portmap enable" |
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| 20:38.52 | HardDisk_WP | pLr, now there is a different error on client http://pastebin.com/9Nq5AeN2 |
| 20:39.00 | pLr | HardDisk_WP: yay |
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| 20:39.32 | sigmonsays | How do I debug apt pinning? It's not working at all. It behaves as if /etc/apt/preferences is not even consulted |
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| 20:39.47 | pLr | HardDisk_WP: more portmap config needed.. can u tell? |
| 20:39.56 | HardDisk_WP | ? |
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| 20:42.39 | pLr | HardDisk_WP: restart the services and try again just to check.. |
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| 20:43.28 | HardDisk_WP | pLr, back at the original error |
| 20:43.46 | HardDisk_WP | and forget the one i posted before |
| 20:43.53 | pLr | what did you do to start portmap? |
| 20:43.53 | HardDisk_WP | accidentally killed off unfsd |
| 20:44.02 | HardDisk_WP | /etc/init.d/portmap restart |
| 20:44.05 | HardDisk_WP | same for unfs3 |
| 20:44.33 | pLr | HardDisk_WP: do /etc/init.d/portmap start; then "" enable |
| 20:45.12 | HardDisk_WP | same error |
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| 20:45.58 | davis | hello |
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| 20:46.44 | pLr | HardDisk_WP:then its ur firewall i think |
| 20:46.52 | HardDisk_WP | no firewall on either host |
| 20:46.57 | pLr | HardDisk_WP: iptables.. |
| 20:47.05 | davis | i am running lenny and have apt-get dist-upgrade with no errors. I am having problems when I try to install apt-get install libxml2-dev though. it says has unmet dependices |
| 20:47.37 | HardDisk_WP | pLr, iptables is not enabled on this vserver at all |
| 20:48.49 | pLr | HardDisk_WP: did u do /etc/exports ? |
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| 20:49.12 | HardDisk_WP | yeah, /backups 77.37.17.63(rw) 77.37.21.149(rw) 77.37.18.198(rw) |
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| 20:49.51 | pLr | HardDisk_WP: /etc/hosts.allow /etc/hosts.deny /etc/hosts ? |
| 20:50.13 | HardDisk_WP | nothing |
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| 20:50.39 | pLr | HardDisk_WP: rpcinfo -p |
| 20:50.43 | HardDisk_WP | http://pastebin.com/h4mtFbf2 |
| 20:51.20 | HardDisk_WP | pLr, http://pastebin.com/e6M0GyXe |
| 20:52.24 | pLr | HardDisk_WP: add ur hosts to /etc/hosts.allow when u have time see if that works |
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| 20:53.05 | HardDisk_WP | pLr, what syntax? |
| 20:53.17 | HardDisk_WP | ALL: 77.37.17.63 |
| 20:53.18 | HardDisk_WP | ? |
| 20:53.21 | pLr | HardDisk_WP: nevermind look |
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| 20:53.30 | pLr | HardDisk_WP: you have 2 processes running |
| 20:53.34 | pLr | HardDisk_WP: rpcinfo -p |
| 20:53.46 | davis | any idea how to fix this: The following packages ahve unmet dependciaes: libxml2-dev: depends: libxm2 (=2.6.32.dfsg-5+lenny1) but 2.7.7.dfsg-2 is to be installed |
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| 20:54.55 | pLr | davis: apt-get -f install |
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| 20:55.11 | yoda___ | hi |
| 20:55.17 | yoda___ | I need help |
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| 20:55.28 | yoda___ | I would like to use a program to play poker |
| 20:55.31 | yoda___ | pokerth |
| 20:55.31 | davis | pLr: that says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed ... |
| 20:55.32 | HardDisk_WP | pLr, yeah |
| 20:55.37 | davis | basically does nothing |
| 20:55.40 | yoda___ | I have lenny |
| 20:55.50 | davis | it does not seem to be broken just stuck |
| 20:55.53 | yoda___ | http://www.pokerth.net/download.html |
| 20:55.57 | yoda___ | here suggest me this |
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| 20:56.06 | pLr | davis: apt-get upgrade --fix-missing |
| 20:56.07 | yoda___ | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=pokerth |
| 20:56.14 | mintdeb | what package do i install to get /lib/modules/2.6.18-6/build/Makefile ? |
| 20:56.46 | yoda___ | here they say that on lenny is available only the version 0.6 |
| 20:56.46 | yoda___ | but it doesn't work ! |
| 20:56.47 | yoda___ | so I would like to adapt the version of others on lenny |
| 20:56.49 | mintdeb | i've tried kernel headers, kernel source, but there is no build directory |
| 20:56.52 | yoda___ | or something like this |
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| 20:56.59 | yoda___ | can anyone help me? |
| 20:57.30 | davis | pLr: thanks but that also does ntohing |
| 20:57.41 | davis | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, ... |
| 20:57.43 | yoda___ | I need help |
| 20:57.43 | pLr | davis: so what gives u an error |
| 20:57.46 | yoda___ | :( |
| 20:57.49 | cga | yoda___, just because i have to ask... did you try apt-cache search pokerth first? |
| 20:57.55 | davis | when I do apt-get install libxml2-dev |
| 20:57.56 | yoda___ | yes |
| 20:58.05 | davis | it gives this error |
| 20:58.05 | davis | any idea how to fix this: The following packages ahve unmet dependciaes: libxml2-dev: depends: libxm2 (=2.6.32.dfsg-5+lenny1) but 2.7.7.dfsg-2 is to be installed |
| 20:58.10 | pLr | HardDisk_WP: im not sure what you missed during the setup but u missed something |
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| 20:58.18 | yoda___ | there is one package in repo but it download only version 0.6.2 that doesn't work |
| 20:58.24 | yoda___ | I need 0.7.1 version |
| 20:58.29 | HardDisk_WP | pLr, that's for sure :D |
| 20:58.31 | pLr | HardDisk_WP: the nfs setup is very detailed dont skip anything |
| 20:58.40 | HardDisk_WP | eh, I wasnt asked anything. |
| 20:58.42 | pLr | HardDisk_WP: i cant figure out which part u missed now sry :( |
| 20:58.45 | yoda___ | so I think I should download another version |
| 20:58.51 | HardDisk_WP | which setup do you mean?? |
| 20:58.52 | HardDisk_WP | client or server |
| 20:59.04 | pLr | HardDisk_WP: conn refused. its server. |
| 20:59.04 | yoda___ | I have downloaded first one version of another type of debian like sid |
| 20:59.11 | yoda___ | could it work ? |
| 20:59.27 | HardDisk_WP | pLr, i tried unfs3 and nfs-user-server, both gave this problem |
| 20:59.36 | pLr | unfs3 is the good 1 |
| 21:00.04 | mintdeb | do i have to copy the kernel source to /lib/modules/2.6.18-6 ? |
| 21:00.26 | mintdeb | err, /lib/modules/2.6.18-6/build |
| 21:00.32 | davis | im just going to update from lenny to sid |
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| 21:00.42 | davis | ive actually found unstable to be pretty stable |
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| 21:02.15 | pLr | HardDisk_WP: sry but ur back to "man unfsd" unless someone else can help u |
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| 21:04.20 | inspiron | what's the purpose of module-assistant? |
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| 21:04.32 | nvz | If I want to remote desktop someone who doesn't have access to the router they are on to forward a port, I could just create them a user account on my machine and ssh forward 5900 then connect to them right? |
| 21:05.04 | nvz | i.e. have them login to my machine with a port forward then connect back to them through ssh? |
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| 21:05.11 | lindi- | nvz: works |
| 21:05.58 | nvz | lindi-: could you explain it a little better to me perhaps.. like do I just use their router IP at port 5900 as long as the ssh forward is connected, it will work? |
| 21:06.15 | lindi- | nvz: no |
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| 21:06.29 | lindi- | machine1$ ssh -R 1234:localhost:1234 machine2 |
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| 21:06.39 | lindi- | machine2$ netcat localhost 1234 |
| 21:07.00 | lindi- | machine2 should now be able to talk to port 1234 of machine1 regardless of any firewalls. |
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| 21:08.19 | nvz | thats what I'm saying.. their internet facing IP (router) would ordinarily block that port, but if they do that ssh -R to my box, then I can connect to that port and it will go through? |
| 21:08.50 | lindi- | nvz: yep |
| 21:09.01 | lindi- | nvz: the router won't notice anything |
| 21:09.08 | lindi- | nvz: it only sees encrypted data stream |
| 21:09.20 | nvz | I think I got it.. :-P |
| 21:09.41 | nvz | would be nice if I could do this without creating a user on my machine, but I'll work it out.. |
| 21:10.18 | amee2k | how do i get vdpau to work in stable? |
| 21:10.28 | isfranc | hello |
| 21:10.29 | amee2k | are there any docs related to this floating around somewhere? |
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| 21:10.54 | isfranc | somethime i have sound in hdmi, and after i lose this ????? |
| 21:11.15 | isfranc | i use 2 screen |
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| 21:13.55 | amee2k | what do i need to install in order to build kernel modules? |
| 21:14.05 | amee2k | (as the nvidia driver installer does it) |
| 21:14.22 | isfranc | for restart all sound system, have you a best cmd ? |
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| 21:14.46 | isfranc | amee2k: no it s ati |
| 21:14.48 | inspiron | anyone have experience in creating deb packages? |
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| 21:16.02 | isfranc | amee2k: at this this i can't kill german soldier in cod 2 :( |
| 21:16.45 | isfranc | how i can reset alsa sound in debian ? |
| 21:16.50 | amee2k | wut? |
| 21:16.53 | nvz | isfranc: you could run alsaconf |
| 21:17.02 | nvz | it will unload and reprobe everything |
| 21:17.04 | amee2k | hast du was gegen deutsche soldaten? |
| 21:17.12 | amee2k | na gut dass ich T5 bin dann :P |
| 21:17.29 | isfranc | amee2k: it s a game |
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| 21:18.09 | isfranc | but i like kill nazi |
| 21:18.11 | nvz | amee2k: you need kernel headers and build-essential |
| 21:18.26 | nvz | amee2k: linux-headers-`uname -r` |
| 21:18.33 | amee2k | O.o |
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| 21:19.05 | nvz | !mentors |
| 21:19.06 | dpkg | it has been said that mentors is the system that the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg> or <mg>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ http://mentors.debian.net/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org. |
| 21:19.07 | isfranc | amee2k: it s a game, kill the devil |
| 21:19.11 | nvz | inspiron: ^^ |
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| 21:19.37 | nvz | #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org, is full of people who have experience creating deb packages |
| 21:19.46 | amee2k | hmmm looks like i already got these installed |
| 21:19.54 | amee2k | i'm not trying to build a package lol |
| 21:20.08 | nvz | amee2k:and I wasn't directing that at you |
| 21:20.15 | amee2k | just want to install some newer nvidia drivers so i can use vdpau for video decoding |
| 21:20.18 | amee2k | oh, okay |
| 21:20.21 | nvz | that was for inspiron who asked about packaging |
| 21:20.36 | amee2k | sorry, my bad :) |
| 21:20.44 | isfranc | i think amee2k is a anarchist :D |
| 21:20.45 | nvz | amee2k: are you using the nvidia binary from nvidia.com? |
| 21:21.03 | amee2k | yeah |
| 21:21.13 | nvz | amee2k: I'd first try the debian nvidia packages, but if you are using the nvidia binary you need to point it at your kernel headers |
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| 21:21.23 | inspiron | nvz: sorry I'm novice in irc - how do I join the channel? It's not in the freenode network, i think... |
| 21:21.26 | nvz | I think it uses the environment variable KERN_DIR |
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| 21:21.45 | isfranc | stay clean |
| 21:21.58 | nvz | inspiron: your client should allow you to connect to multiple networks. /connect irc.debian.org |
| 21:21.59 | amee2k | got 173.14 installed, but i can't get vdpau to work |
| 21:22.05 | nvz | inspiron: then /j #debian-mentors |
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| 21:22.29 | amee2k | the lib is installed and i installed the mplayer version from debian-multimedia. according to their site it should have support for the vdpau driver compiled in |
| 21:22.31 | inspiron | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:22.37 | inspiron | ohhh |
| 21:22.47 | amee2k | but it doesn't show up in the list of video output drivers |
| 21:23.03 | amee2k | (as it used to when i was using the other linux distro with U) |
| 21:23.11 | nvz | inspiron: yes but you have to connect to irc.debian.org (irc.oftc.net) as well |
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| 21:23.42 | inspiron | nvz: I'm using xchat and /connect doesn't do anything |
| 21:23.59 | amee2k | since i can't figure out what i'm doing wrong i'm suspecting the driver is too old... its a rather new feat and buntu had the 180 series driver too iirc |
| 21:24.19 | nvz | inspiron: I'm not too familiar with xchat. AFAIK they went commercial |
| 21:24.20 | qq- | inspiron, /server irc.oftc.net |
| 21:24.35 | nvz | the /server command in my client disconnects the current server |
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| 21:24.45 | nvz | the /connect command just connects to another server |
| 21:24.47 | amee2k | if there is anything else that i can try first, i'm all ears |
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| 21:25.19 | nvz | amee2k: I've never heard of this vdpau driver, but the driver nvidia provides is called nvidia |
| 21:25.20 | qq- | amee2k, squeeze ? |
| 21:25.38 | HardDisk_WP | pLr, now its gettin interesting |
| 21:25.40 | nvz | amee2k: so whatever you are doing with the nvidia packages will likely make no difference |
| 21:25.41 | puty | how i can see all network managers installed on debian ? thanks |
| 21:25.53 | HardDisk_WP | blanked /etc/exports, i get mount.nfs: valkyrie.vm-dg.de:/backups failed, reason given by server: Permission denied |
| 21:25.59 | amee2k | qq-: excuse me? |
| 21:26.10 | nvz | puty: you can only have one network manager, they conflict with one another |
| 21:26.13 | qq- | amee2k, running squeeze ? |
| 21:26.14 | HardDisk_WP | put the old /backups 77.37.17.63(rw) 77.37.21.149(rw) 77.37.18.198(rw) line => conn refused |
| 21:26.30 | nvz | puty: you likely have network-manager, as it is the one installed in a standard install |
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| 21:26.37 | amee2k | nvz: hmmm its an api from nvidia that allows you to use >=GF8 series GPUs to accelerate video decoding, especially hd stuff |
| 21:26.49 | puty | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.57 | amee2k | qq-: installed from a 5.03 stable netinst cd. dunno the name |
| 21:27.09 | nvz | puty: then you have wicd.. and thats it.. it conflicts with network-manager |
| 21:27.17 | ewet | hi, where would the default .jedrc file be situated? there's nothing in /usr/share/jed |
| 21:27.41 | puty | but i don't have network-manager |
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| 21:29.05 | qq- | !tell amee2k about nvidia |
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| 21:29.26 | nvz | puty: thats what I'm telling you |
| 21:29.42 | nvz | puty: you asked how to see what network managers were installed, I am telling you THAT YOU CAN HAVE ONLY ONE |
| 21:29.46 | ewet | it should be in JEDROOT/lib/jed.rc |
| 21:29.59 | nvz | puty: you said you have wicd, so thats what you have.. there is no reason to see which are installed, you already know |
| 21:30.18 | amee2k | qq-: i installed the stock driver using instructions on the same page and it worked fine otherwise |
| 21:30.23 | puty | nvz sorry but i am asking how i can see all network managers installed |
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| 21:30.45 | qq- | amee2k, so problem solved |
| 21:30.46 | amee2k | i just can't get the video thing to work. which is bad because its like the only thing i could really use the card for |
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| 21:30.53 | nvz | puty: there cannot be ALL network managers installed, there can be only one.. its like an MTA, if you install a different MTA it removes the old one |
| 21:31.21 | nvz | puty: either your english is terrible and you don't know what you are saying, or you're not understanding that there can only be one network manager installed |
| 21:31.31 | puty | ok better answer |
| 21:31.40 | amee2k | qq-: how so? |
| 21:31.57 | amee2k | hmmm nvz you were right :/ |
| 21:32.21 | qq- | amee2k> "it worked fine otherwise" |
| 21:32.46 | amee2k | otherwise == except for the only feat i really want it for |
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| 21:33.42 | qq- | amee2k, what's "video thing" ? |
| 21:33.48 | amee2k | vdpau |
| 21:33.57 | qq- | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:34.34 | amee2k | an api from nvidia to accelerate video decoding using geforce 8 series or newer GPUs |
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| 21:34.45 | qq- | amee2k, please go to #nvidia |
| 21:34.49 | nvz | puty: well sorry for getting annoyed, but I thought I said the same thing at least 3 times. Two or more network managers cannot co-exist on a system because they would physically break one another, thus they are packaged to conflict and will remove/replace the one currently installed. If you have wicd thats what you have |
| 21:34.49 | amee2k | especially hd stuff which is a major CPU hog to decode "in software" |
| 21:35.26 | amee2k | qq-: thanks, but i'm trying to get it to work on debian. i know that my card does it because ubuntu used it before i got fed up with that |
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| 21:36.26 | amee2k | and now i have the same driver that i had before ... must be something with the lib or mplayer packages |
| 21:36.40 | qq- | amee2k, but you use from nvidia.com ,so is _not_ supported here |
| 21:36.57 | qq- | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:37.04 | amee2k | i'll put the stock driver back in then |
| 21:37.14 | puty | nvz don't worry now is clear thanks |
| 21:37.26 | qq- | amee2k, it won't work |
| 21:37.44 | amee2k | why not? |
| 21:37.47 | amee2k | what funny is that the mplayer package from debian-multimedia is supposed to have vdpau support compiled in |
| 21:37.55 | amee2k | but doesn't depend on linvdpau |
| 21:38.00 | amee2k | lib*vdpau |
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| 21:39.12 | puty | anyway i still dont understand if i turn off wicd why my nic is geting ip |
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| 21:39.48 | nvz | puty: wicd is both a graphical frontend and a daemon |
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| 21:40.17 | nvz | puty: to stop it from functioning you need to /etc/init.d/wicd stop |
| 21:40.26 | nvz | puty: not killall wicd, which only kills the frontend |
| 21:40.29 | puty | ok how can i disable it on next reboot? |
| 21:40.30 | qq- | amee2k, install newer nvidia from squeeze > 185.. , and try again m-a |
| 21:41.03 | nvz | puty: well disabling the init.d script will disable it perminantly on boot until you put the links back |
| 21:41.05 | puty | and sorry for my english i'am learning it |
| 21:41.28 | puty | ok is clear thanks |
| 21:41.36 | nvz | puty: update-rc.d -f wicd remove |
| 21:41.40 | amee2k | qq-: newest packages i can find are 173.14 |
| 21:41.50 | amee2k | i thought newer isn't supported |
| 21:41.59 | nvz | puty: will remove the links and stop it from starting on boot, to put them back you would use update-rc.d wicd defaults |
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| 21:42.16 | ewet | no ideas? is there no template jed.rc file in the jed package anymore? |
| 21:42.24 | qq- | amee2k, reread my last message ;) |
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| 21:42.48 | puty | thanks i'am taking note |
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| 21:43.00 | amee2k | qq-: i did. i still don't get it |
| 21:43.02 | nvz | puty: however without a network manager, your /etc/network/interfaces file is still read, and if its set to auto eth0; iface eth0 inet dhcp, for example, that interface will still come up automatically and get an IP via DHCP |
| 21:43.05 | tomatto_ | hi |
| 21:43.23 | inspiron | nvz: and qq- thanks ;) |
| 21:43.36 | tomatto_ | please, what is new repositories for sources.list, i have old some |
| 21:43.43 | tomatto_ | ? |
| 21:43.57 | qq- | amee2k, go dld nvidia > 185 from pdo |
| 21:44.04 | nvz | puty: you can simply put a # in front of the "auto eth0" line to disable it being brough up automatically |
| 21:44.04 | qq- | !pdo |
| 21:44.04 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for Debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/ in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
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| 21:44.34 | karlpinc | tomatto_: see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ |
| 21:44.34 | puty | ok thanks |
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| 21:46.24 | amee2k | qq-: 195.36.31 sound good? |
| 21:46.38 | qq- | have to try .. |
| 21:46.46 | amee2k | no i mean the version |
| 21:46.59 | amee2k | or am i voiding support with this one again? |
| 21:47.01 | qq- | i do no your vdau |
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| 21:47.20 | amee2k | k... brb |
| 21:47.35 | Zarion | Anyone here know how to use the /etc/init.d/openvpn script? I can't get it to read my config file |
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| 21:49.13 | jhutchins | amee2k: It's not so much voiding support - there's nothing official in the support here except mutually agreed channel rules. The problem is that if you get outside of standard debian stable, people here are not going to have any experience with what you're trying to do, and we don't want to waste time and bandwidth on something that doesn't help other debian users. |
| 21:49.46 | amee2k | jhutchins: yeah, i get that much. hench the question |
| 21:50.00 | amee2k | qq-: okay, got 195 installed and running |
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| 21:51.00 | amee2k | still no vdpau option in mplayer. mplayer version is 1:1.0.rc2svn20080706-0.1lenny2 from debian-multimedia |
| 21:51.07 | amee2k | so what else am i doing wrong? |
| 21:51.17 | qq- | amee2k, do m-a to build the kernel module (nvidia) , m-a clean all , before |
| 21:52.03 | tomatto_ | karlpinc: i don't know how to add correct lines to sources.list |
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| 21:52.40 | qq- | amee2k, anyways nvidia driver won't change vdpau option in mplayer ... |
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| 21:53.05 | amee2k | nvidia-settings confirms its using the new driver already |
| 21:53.12 | qq- | maybe mplayer needs a rebuild too |
| 21:53.17 | amee2k | okay |
| 21:53.22 | amee2k | how do i do that? |
| 21:53.27 | amee2k | install from source? |
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| 21:53.52 | qq- | it's not in backports ? |
| 21:54.00 | qq- | !backports |
| 21:54.01 | dpkg | [backport] a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.org/ . Ask me about <backports.org> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 21:54.11 | jhutchins | amee2k: Is there something in the xorg log that shows that vdpau is actually available? |
| 21:54.23 | jhutchins | ,versions mplayer |
| 21:54.24 | judd | mplayer -- etch: 1.0~rc1-12etch7; etch-security: 1.0~rc1-12etch7; lenny: 1.0~rc2-17+lenny3; lenny-security: 1.0~rc2-17+lenny3.2; etch-multimedia: 1:1.0-rc1svn20070225-0.3etch1; lenny-multimedia: 1:1.0.rc2svn20080706-0.1lenny2; sid: 2:1.0~rc3+svn20100502-3; squeeze: 2:1.0~rc3+svn20100502-3; squeeze-multimedia: 2:1.0~rc3+svn20100519-0.0; sid-multimedia: 2:1.0~rc3+svn20100603-0.0 |
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| 21:54.34 | amee2k | jhutchins: how do i check that? |
| 21:54.57 | amee2k | qq-: i don't use backports |
| 21:54.58 | jhutchins | amee2k: grep Xorg.0.log maybe, or dmesg. |
| 21:55.08 | leejongwook | Does anyone use bigger than 1024x768 screen resolution for virtual terminal with Grub2 ? |
| 21:55.16 | jhutchins | amee2k: mplayer isn't in backports anyway. |
| 21:55.29 | jhutchins | amee2k: I would read the mplayer documentation for vdpau and see what's required. |
| 21:56.13 | amee2k | jhutchins: debian-multimedia says their mplayer package is compiled with it, and i made sure i've got that installed |
| 21:56.19 | jhutchins | amee2k: You might be able to find forum posts on how to get ti working. |
| 21:56.20 | amee2k | grepping dpkg -l confirms it |
| 21:57.02 | amee2k | jhutchins: already searched the internet ... what turned up wasn't very helpful. gave me the hint that my driver could be too old but apparently that didn't help |
| 21:57.20 | amee2k | grepping the logs didn't turn up anything either |
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| 21:58.55 | amee2k | is there a command line option for mplayer to see what options it has been compiled with? |
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| 21:59.26 | jhutchins_lt | amee2k: Yeah, and #nvidia will always tell you your kernel's too old. |
| 21:59.28 | sam___ | what do i do with libflashplayer.so ?? |
| 21:59.48 | jordanm | amee2k: what card? |
| 22:00.00 | jordanm | sam___: nothing, you install the proper debian package |
| 22:00.03 | amee2k | jordanm: 8800gts |
| 22:00.11 | jhutchins_lt | amee2k: That's why I think nvidia forums & mplayer forums would be the place to look. |
| 22:00.15 | amee2k | worked fine with that card before |
| 22:00.33 | jordanm | amee2k: you need the 19x series drivers. 195+ will require a newer kernel _and_ xorg version |
| 22:00.41 | sam___ | proper debian package doesnt show up in aptitude search |
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| 22:00.51 | jordanm | !tell sam___ about bpo |
| 22:00.59 | jordanm | sam___: flashplugin-nonfree in backports |
| 22:01.05 | amee2k | hmm... |
| 22:01.54 | jordanm | amee2k: glxinfo | grep -i direct |
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| 22:02.47 | amee2k | ? |
| 22:03.16 | qq- | run it .. |
| 22:03.16 | sam___ | can i not install it manually? |
| 22:03.27 | jordanm | sam___: not recommended/supported |
| 22:03.38 | amee2k | okay, just found some official readme from nvidia... looks like both were right. vdpau support was introduced with driver version 180.06 so 173 wouldn't have worked |
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| 22:04.05 | jordanm | I have to go soon, if you have to, this is the source package to build that should work on lenny i386 (build issues reported with ia-libs and amd64): http://snapshot.debian.org/package/nvidia-graphics-drivers/190.53-4/ |
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| 22:04.21 | aguitel | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.45 | amee2k | jordanm: hehe. i'm on amd64 |
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| 22:05.44 | qq- | aguitel, seems known issue |
| 22:05.54 | havocologe | are there any imap servers that support imap-idle ? |
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| 22:06.07 | qq- | read some mailing list , and /or bts |
| 22:06.07 | aguitel | qq-, and then what |
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| 22:06.26 | aguitel | qq-, need to wait to solve? |
| 22:06.27 | amee2k | well, thanks for your help nvz, qq-, jordanm and whoever i missed |
| 22:06.36 | amee2k | i'll see if i can get mplayer to recompile |
| 22:06.37 | jordanm | havocologe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMAP_IDLE |
| 22:07.02 | qq- | aguitel, or get same read |
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| 22:07.30 | qq- | s/same /some |
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| 22:08.21 | tomatto_ | have you sources.list for new debian version? |
| 22:08.40 | jhutchins_lt | !tell tomatto_ about sources |
| 22:08.53 | qq- | whats new debian version? , hehe |
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| 22:09.06 | qq- | tomatto_, ^^ |
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| 22:10.47 | roe | Any thoughts on why mdadm kicks a random drive out of my array once in a while? I hvae to reboot my box and then add the drive, then everything is fine |
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| 22:11.29 | tomatto_ | jhutchins_lt: it said i have actual system, but many packages are old |
| 22:11.57 | qq- | roe, cable problem ? |
| 22:12.14 | roe | qq-, I don't think so, but could be |
| 22:12.26 | roe | I hate the sata port |
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| 22:15.08 | jhutchins_lt | tomatto_: Debian stable does not include packages just because they are new, it has standards for stability and reliability. |
| 22:15.51 | jhutchins_lt | tomatto_: Patches are often backported to earlier stable versions if they improve performance, so a Debian package with an earlier version number may have fixes from newer packages (particularly true of kernels). |
| 22:16.06 | jhutchins_lt | tomatto_: Do you have a problem with a particular package? |
| 22:16.29 | tomatto_ | jhutchins_lt: i want to use newer packages. must i upgrade to testing or unstable packages? |
| 22:16.52 | jhutchins_lt | tomatto_: Depends on which package. |
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| 22:17.17 | tomatto_ | jhutchins_lt: for example firefox, cups, flash player |
| 22:18.29 | jhutchins_lt | flash is up to date. Iceweasel is the latest release that's actually stable, newer ones are known to crash. Do you need a cups driver that's not in the current package? |
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| 22:19.13 | jhutchins_lt | tomatto_: Newer-because-it's-newer doesn't get much support in Debian, if something actually works better it's usually available. |
| 22:19.30 | lepra | I'm trying to install debian on QEMU, but when creating partition it gives me the error: "Failed to create a file system", i've already changed the virtual HD file permissions, anyone knows how to solve this? |
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| 22:23.44 | qq- | lepra, try #qemu |
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| 22:25.37 | lepra | qq-, ok thanks, but just figured out that the debian iso is broken, came with broken hash |
| 22:25.47 | lepra | but i'll try that anyway |
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| 22:48.49 | malchias | what determines which site is the "default" and "default-ssl" in the sites-available directory? What takes precendence? |
| 22:49.06 | abrotman | one is not https, the other is? |
| 22:49.25 | malchias | say I have 10 sites, which will it pick as the default for the server and default for the ssl? |
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| 22:53.30 | themill | malchias: alphabetical order of the filenames will determine that. But it's only an issue for ancient browsers that don't implement the "Host" header. |
| 22:53.58 | Bop | did u upgrade from lenny to squeeze and GL fails to load , any help ? |
| 22:54.36 | malchias | it's not going by alpha order |
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| 22:55.34 | themill | malchias: perhaps you need to have another go at asking your question in that case |
| 22:56.43 | abrotman | !pt |
| 22:56.44 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt ) |
| 22:56.46 | malchias | I'll play a bit then ask a more intelligent way :) |
| 22:56.52 | void9 | quick debchange question for building packages for my personal repository: how to i get --increment to operate on the base version number rather than appending -distroN? |
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| 22:57.26 | themill | malchias: default and default-ssl are symlinks. You can change those symlinks with ln and rm in the usual way. Or use a2dissite and a2ensite. |
| 22:58.00 | malchias | can you recommend a good book for learning debian? I bought serveral on apache and it doesn't match debian layout |
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| 22:58.42 | abrotman | !book |
| 22:58.42 | dpkg | For documentation and books on Debian, see http://www.debian.org/doc and http://www.debian.org/doc/books . Also ask me about <grounding>. |
| 22:58.43 | abrotman | !books |
| 22:58.43 | themill | malchias: /usr/share/doc/apache* contains a lot of useful information on the debian-specific stuff (which isn't very much, really) |
| 22:58.44 | dpkg | For documentation and books on Debian, see http://www.debian.org/doc and http://www.debian.org/doc/books . Also ask me about <grounding>. |
| 22:58.45 | abrotman | bleh |
| 22:59.03 | malchias | grounding? |
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| 22:59.47 | malchias | thank you by the way |
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| 23:01.35 | beardy | "/msg dpkg grounding" contains "links" to other factoids of lots of good, grounding information. Everyone should return to it now and then. |
| 23:03.12 | malchias | cool, ty |
| 23:03.27 | Bop | anyone with xfce4 and squeeze ? my wicd does not appear |
| 23:03.56 | beardy | Bop: Have you started it? |
| 23:04.22 | beardy | Bop: Is it running? |
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| 23:05.08 | Bop | beardy, yeah it is |
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| 23:17.45 | danieldg | I'm trying to get external modules to build against a debian-shipped kernel, and I don't have support for -fstack-protector support (but the kernel was compiled with that) |
| 23:17.58 | danieldg | how do I get this support? |
| 23:18.39 | danieldg | I'm trying GCC package changes and binutils, but not much success so far |
| 23:19.19 | tharkun | !m-a |
| 23:19.19 | dpkg | methinks module-assistant is a tool helping to build additional (kernel) module packages and install them. "aptitude install module-assistant". See usage examples at http://wiki.debian.org/ModuleAssistant . Log files from successful (and unsuccessful!) builds can be found in /var/cache/modass/ |
| 23:19.34 | danieldg | it's being build using DKMS |
| 23:19.42 | danieldg | and no, m-a will not help |
| 23:19.50 | danieldg | it's a GCC issue |
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| 23:20.04 | danieldg | or at least compiler toolchain related |
| 23:20.08 | abrotman | danieldg: what are you trying to compile ? |
| 23:20.16 | danieldg | abrotman: nvidia module |
| 23:20.32 | abrotman | isn't it already in debian ? |
| 23:20.56 | danieldg | not for my kernel versions |
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| 23:21.15 | danieldg | I can't find it for 2.6.32 or 2.6.34 |
| 23:21.37 | danieldg | in fact, I can't find it for *any* kernels, just the DKMS package |
| 23:22.09 | danieldg | version 195.36.24 of the nvidia packages, if that matters |
| 23:22.12 | abrotman | and when you try to build the dkms? what command, what output? |
| 23:22.32 | danieldg | dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 23:22.51 | nsadmin | that wouldn't be recompiling |
| 23:22.59 | danieldg | yes, it would, with DKMS |
| 23:23.19 | danieldg | Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 2.6.34-1-amd64 (x86_64) |
| 23:23.26 | danieldg | and in the make.log: |
| 23:23.45 | danieldg | /media/cdata/src/linux-headers-2.6.34-1-common/arch/x86/Makefile:81: stack protector enabled but no compiler support |
| 23:24.06 | nsadmin | that would imply that dpkg-reconfigure depends on the toolchain |
| 23:24.15 | danieldg | nsadmin: correct, it does |
| 23:24.38 | danieldg | the builder of the 2.6.34 packages apparently has a GCC version that supports stack protector, but I do not |
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| 23:24.55 | abrotman | wait .. where did you get a .34 ? |
| 23:25.02 | abrotman | judd: kernels |
| 23:25.03 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 2.6.34-1-686 (2.6.34-1~experimental.2); sid: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-15); lenny-backports: 2.6.32-bpo.5-686 (2.6.32-15~bpo50+1); lenny: 2.6.26-2-686 (2.6.26-22lenny1); etchnhalf: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 (2.6.24-6~etchnhalf.9etch3); etch: 2.6.18-6-686 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-26etch2) |
| 23:25.11 | tharkun | :) |
| 23:25.14 | danieldg | abrotman: same thing happens with 32 |
| 23:25.19 | danieldg | I did try that before coming here |
| 23:25.33 | abrotman | danieldg: which compiler are you using ? |
| 23:25.44 | danieldg | gcc 4.4 and also tried 4.5 |
| 23:25.46 | nsadmin | do you meant the specific .32 that is packaged? |
| 23:25.47 | abrotman | gcc --version |
| 23:26.05 | danieldg | gcc (Debian 4.5.0-5) 4.5.1 20100602 (prerelease) |
| 23:26.18 | danieldg | or gcc-4.4 (Debian 4.4.4-5) 4.4.4 |
| 23:26.32 | danieldg | (I changed the gcc symlink, I'll change it back) |
| 23:26.34 | themill | danieldg: and what version was the kernel compiled with (cat /proc/version) |
| 23:26.46 | danieldg | ah, 4.4.4 |
| 23:27.01 | danieldg | switches the symlink back |
| 23:27.15 | abrotman | that'd be a good start |
| 23:27.17 | danieldg | no change, I did try that before 4.5 |
| 23:27.22 | tharkun | danieldg: Beware there are a few regressions on those branches of gcc |
| 23:27.27 | danieldg | I thought 4.5 might have had it added |
| 23:27.44 | themill | danieldg: m-a ignores /usr/bin/gcc and uses /usr/bin/gcc-$version in any case. I assume dkms would do the same. |
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| 23:28.03 | danieldg | ok, so I might have been wasting my time changing the symlink |
| 23:28.32 | danieldg | regardless, it's not building with 4.4.4-5 (kernel version was 4.4.4-4) |
| 23:29.11 | themill | experimental! in! broken! package! horror! |
| 23:29.29 | danieldg | themill: it's also broken in .32 (sid) |
| 23:29.36 | danieldg | want me to continue debugging with 32? |
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| 23:34.19 | Bop | my wicd notification icon dispeared from xfce desktop , but it is running ... any help ? |
| 23:37.40 | nsadmin | so do you want to stop it? |
| 23:38.14 | danieldg | well, I'll return to using my custom-compiled kernel; I'll stay here if anyone has ideas about getting the package ones working |
| 23:38.55 | nsadmin | .34 isn't packaged except for experimental |
| 23:39.14 | bzed | Bop: pkill wicd-vlient; wicd-client & disown |
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| 23:41.48 | danieldg | nsadmin: right, but the problem still exists with .32 |
| 23:42.25 | nsadmin | there are a few different .32 packages... which do you mean? |
| 23:42.57 | Bop | bzed, ops , wicd-gtk was not installed ... thanks |
| 23:42.57 | dima202 | I deleted the 000-default file from /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ |
| 23:43.22 | danieldg | nsadmin: linux-2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 23:43.29 | dima202 | How can I re-create it? I am read apache docs and I don't even se this kind of conifuration |
| 23:43.54 | dima202 | whats the big deal with this site-available site-enabled crap |
| 23:44.10 | dima202 | why not just one simple config |
| 23:44.26 | dima202 | Am I missing the point? or what.. |
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| 23:45.01 | nsadmin | if you don't like it... compile apache yourself |
| 23:45.28 | dima202 | nsadmin: maybe i don't understand it |
| 23:45.42 | dima202 | symbolic links between the too |
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| 23:46.11 | dima202 | can you give me a apache.org httpd document which explains how it works? |
| 23:46.20 | craigevil | danieldg: NVIDIA 195.36.24 compiles just fine on 2.6.32-5-686 and on 2.6.34-0.dmz.10-liquorix-686 also with no problems |
| 23:46.24 | nsadmin | just recognize, that if you do that you would also have to build all the modules you want and iverything else involved possibly including libs |
| 23:46.35 | danieldg | craigevil: might be specific to amd64 then |
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| 23:50.34 | nsadmin | in debian? |
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| 23:51.47 | Skeeter- | nsadmin, ya |
| 23:52.05 | Skeeter- | i need to clone my sim card so i can use it on my iphone 3gs and iphone 4 |
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| 23:53.36 | nsadmin | do they run debian? |
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| 23:55.52 | courpse | How can i made a file writeable for any user? |
| 23:56.11 | malchias | chmod w+x ? |
| 23:56.13 | karsten | courpse: A far better question is: why would you want to do that. |
| 23:56.19 | karsten | malchias: Nope. |
| 23:56.39 | abrotman | malchias: try again |
| 23:56.48 | courpse | karsten: how would me asking 'why would you want to do that.' get me the answer to: 'How can i made a file writeable for any user?' |
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| 23:57.01 | karsten | courpse: XY problem. |
| 23:57.13 | karsten | !tell courpse about xy problem |
| 23:57.16 | courpse | naw/. |
| 23:57.21 | courpse | its not that case :/ |
| 23:57.42 | courpse | its for web server stuff, and i dont want to change file owner to apaches user. |
| 23:57.47 | karsten | courpse: Well, if you've got to ask, you're almost certainly unaware of the security implications of your doing this. |
| 23:58.04 | malchias | sorry o+w |
| 23:58.14 | karsten | courpse: As I said. |
| 23:58.14 | courpse | its not an important file, else i'd do it differently somehow. |
| 23:58.34 | karsten | malchias: helping people shoot themselves in the foot is rarely useful. |
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| 23:58.47 | malchias | being terse doesn't help either |
| 23:59.10 | courpse | ty malchias. |
| 23:59.11 | karsten | malchias: Eliciting the full problem at hand does. |
| 23:59.16 | courpse | no. |
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| 23:59.21 | courpse | Just him telling me what i asked was fine. |
| 23:59.40 | karsten | courpse: Allowing any user to write a file on a webserver is .... pretty stupid. |
| 23:59.50 | courpse | no. |
| 23:59.55 | courpse | its not in the webserver directly. |
| 23:59.59 | malchias | making a file world writeable is dangerous courpse, any user or script running as any user can write to it, filling the disk, hacking files, etc |